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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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Subject: Re: Journalism "logic"
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In article <49guj4$pt2@taco.cc.ncsu.edu>, sjcrisp@unity.ncsu.edu (Steven
J. Crisp) wrote:

> David Reilley (dreilley@pinc.com) wrote:
> 
> : You sound like the kind of person who spends a lot of time thinking about 
> : other people's peckers.
> 
> See, I am a compassionate person; I feel sorry for those less fortunate 
> than me...   :)
> 
> Steve Crisp

Maybe you'd like to think about mine.

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec  3 09:08:30 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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Subject: BOSNIA
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I read this on clari.net

                
         WASHINGTON (Reuter) - The White House Friday released copies 
of letters from the leaders of Bosnia, Croatia and Serbia to 
President Clinton promising to ensure the safety of NATO forces 
overseeing the Bosnia peace deal.  


Beg pardon, but are WE sending troops to protect other people? And these
guys are going to guarantee OUR safety? Right....

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec  3 09:18:01 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article <49guj4$pt2@taco.cc.ncsu.edu>, sjcrisp@unity.ncsu.edu (Steven
J. Crisp) wrote:

> David Reilley (dreilley@pinc.com) wrote:
> 
> : You sound like the kind of person who spends a lot of time thinking about 
> : other people's peckers.
> 
> See, I am a compassionate person; I feel sorry for those less fortunate 
> than me...   :)
> 
> Steve Crisp

Maybe you'd like to think about mine.

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec  3 16:31:38 PST 1995
Article: 14792 of alt.revisionism
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article <49kpf6$sup@decaxp.harvard.edu>, slking@scws31.harvard.edu
(Stewart King) wrote:

> Aryan Crusader (rlogsdon@mail.utexas.edu) wrote:
> 
> : Our struggle is a holy battle for the survival of the Aryan Race.  In war, 
> : it is permissible to kill one's enemies --and so I'm certain that a 
> : little forgery is within the bounds ofrighteous behavior.  As chaplain 
> : of USENET, Reverend Ron is the final authority on such matters in any 
> : case.
> 
> As the dictator of my own little corner of USENET, I'm on a war against 
> stupidity.  Does that mean it's okay for me to put things in your butt?  
> Just checking.
> 

I have no objection. As long as its his butt and not mine.

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec  3 16:31:39 PST 1995
Article: 14798 of alt.revisionism
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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Subject: Re: F. Weltner's woman gets BIG Black Dick (Hope She Liked IT!)
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In article <49ndg9$r32@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu>, Brett
 wrote:

> I would be hard pressed to show some direct correlation between your 
> inability to speak french and his bigotry, but if you committed such 
> careless errors all the time, then perhaps we would have good reason to 
> look on your arguments with suspicion, no matter how offensive Weltner's 
> claims might be.
> 
> Brett
> -- 
I am shocked to think that my words would be considered as "offensive" to
any rational human being. To a few low life niggers in Washington DC,
maybe, but not humans. I have always taken careful care to make sure that
my kindnesses, which are so many that I cannot nor should not mention them
for fear that they shall be accounted to me in heaven for I will have
already have received my rewards on earth, shall radiate the warmth and
good will with which they are alway meant. Amen.

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec  3 16:31:40 PST 1995
Article: 14799 of alt.revisionism
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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Subject: Re: F. Weltner's woman gets BIG Black Dick (Hope She Liked IT!)
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 1995 16:39:37 -0600
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In article ,
loyal-African@shingira.demon.co.uk wrote:

> In article <49njkh$qct@sphinx.Gsu.EDU>,  writes:
> 
> > Yes, blacks are known for having large penises...and large lips....and
SMALL 
> brains!!
> > I wonder if there is a connection there that should be studied.
> > 
> > -----
> > Tim
> 
> 
> Oh poor Tim, 
> 
> seems like you TOO have hang-up about penis size, I propose that we
examine the 
> psychology of envy instead!

Very large. Both lips and penises just go flap, flap, flap, all day long.
And with nothing of substance, either!

Amen.

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec  3 16:31:41 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article <49kv74$1e7d@msunews.cl.msu.edu>, Martin Fox  wrote:

> potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner) wrote:
> >In article , eha@itn.is (Elias
> >Halldor Agustsson) wrote:
> >
> >> In article , gary@iquest.net (gary) wrote:
> >> 
> >> > everything but the individual you become the "cause". This idea that
> >> > blacks have babys out of wedlock or don't finish school or won't
get a job
> >> > because of the "system" is pure ignorance. They live that kind of life
> >because
> >> > they can...they know they can get benefits from the government and live
> >> > well enough. If they were held accountable for those babys...and made to
> >> 
> >> Yes, I think it is the same with all white populations.  In almost
> >> completely white Iceland around half of all children under 5 were born out
> >> of wedlock.  Probably for the same reasons.
> >> This is not a "white trash" thing.  It is very common among professionals.
> >> 
> >> Elias
> >> (father of at least 2 children out of wedlock)
> >
> >Filthy nigger. I wouldn't brag. You are bringing down your race. Kids need
> >fathers, you geek.
> >
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> 
> Are you looking for a tree for him?  Are your white sheet and hood backe
>from  the 
> cleaners yet?  They don't look very impresive if they have mud and blood
stains on 
> them,
> 
> Martin Fox

Maybe you'd like to clean them for me, son. While you lick my boots, huh?

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec  3 16:31:42 PST 1995
Article: 14803 of alt.revisionism
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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As you all already doubtless know, the Aryan Race has been holy ever since
Harry Carey yelled "Holy Cow! It's a home run," at the ball park in St.
Louis. Congratulations to us one and all. And, thanks, Harry.

The historical avenger...

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec  3 16:31:43 PST 1995
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In article <49l5f0$t5u@larry.cc.emory.edu>, libwca@larry.cc.emory.edu
(william c anderson) wrote:

> Aryan Crusader (rlogsdon@mail.utexas.edu) wrote:
> 
> : Our struggle is a holy battle for the survival of the Aryan Race.  In war, 
> : it is permissible to kill one's enemies --and so I'm certain that a 
> : little forgery is within the bounds ofrighteous behavior.  As chaplain 
> : of USENET, Reverend Ron is the final authority on such matters in any case.
> 
> There you have it, folks--the perfect statement of Christian Identity
> "morality".
> 
> Bill

I'll drink to my holiness.

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec  3 16:31:44 PST 1995
Article: 14806 of alt.revisionism
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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Subject: Re: Black Family Values
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In article <30BF74ED.4157@aimnet.com>, George Graves 
wrote:

> Frank Weltner wrote:
> > 
> > In article , eha@itn.is (Elias
> > Halldor Agustsson) wrote:
> > 
> > > In article , gary@iquest.net (gary) wrote:
> > >
> > > > everything but the individual you become the "cause". This idea that
> > > > blacks have babys out of wedlock or don't finish school or won't
get a job
> > > > because of the "system" is pure ignorance. They live that kind of life
> > because
> > > > they can...they know they can get benefits from the government and live
> > > > well enough. If they were held accountable for those babys...and made to
> > >
> > > Yes, I think it is the same with all white populations.  In almost
> > > completely white Iceland around half of all children under 5 were born out
> > > of wedlock.  Probably for the same reasons.
> > > This is not a "white trash" thing.  It is very common among professionals.
> > >
> > > Elias
> > > (father of at least 2 children out of wedlock)
> > 
> > Filthy nigger. I wouldn't brag. You are bringing down your race. Kids need
> > fathers, you geek.
> > 
> > --
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> 
> Well, when one lives in a country the size of a postage stamp, where
> it is cold as hell in winter and not much warmer in summer, (except
> when the place is threatening to blow up due to all the volcanic activity),
> there is probably little to do other than procreate. In the case of 
> American inner-city blacks, because of their economic situation, there
> is little to do except procreate. I see a nexus here. Do you?
> 
> George Graves

I have been to Reyklavik, Iceland many times in my worldly travels. I have
been there in the winter, and the climate is very mild. Iceland is
misnamed; Greenland is the cold as nails bummer place.

However, Icelanders do not have a large number of children per family, and
they are married. Blacks in America aren't married. They have no right to
produce children when they aren't willing or able to support them. Please
don't involve me in their upbringing.

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec  3 16:31:45 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article ,
Brian O'Sullivan  wrote:

> On Fri, 1 Dec 1995, Frank Weltner wrote:
> 
> > In article <49ff2s$sa9@decaxp.harvard.edu>, slking@scws43.harvard.edu
> > (Stewart King) wrote:
> > 
> > > Frank Weltner (potato@mo.net) wrote:
> > > 
> > > : It takes 95 IQ to pass high school with a D, 100 IQ to pass high school
> > > : with a C, and 115 IQ to pass college with a D, 123 with a C, 136 with a 
> > > : B, 144 with an A.  
> > > 
> > > I'd just like to point out, without even addressing the rest of the post, 
> > > that this correlation is completely ludicrous.  If this sort of direct 
> > > cause-and-effect system is the way you think of IQ, you're REALLY WARPED.
> > > It is not the be-all and end-all of success or failure.  Nowhere close.
> > > 
> > > Let's just say that I'm not pulling my weight on this scale right now.  
> > > Plenty of naturally intelligent people just don't care at all or have 
> > > better things to do and are average students in high school.  Economics 
> > > play a role.  And so on.
> > > 
> > > Silly.
> > > 
> > Wrong. IQ is the predictor for college and high school capabilities
> > measured in predictable cumulative and general area grade points. I know.
> > I'm an educator.
> > 
> > Sorry.
> > 
> 
> AAAAHHH!! [Mental note: avoid ever visiting any schools in Missouri]
> The best predictor for college success is high school grades.  That's the 
> reason colleges look at your transcripts--other factors (SAT scores, IQ, 
> etc.) play much smaller roles.  I know.  I've applied to colleges before.
> 
> (I don't have a one word ending).
> 
> ____________________________________________________________________________
> Brian O'Sullivan                bosul@zeus.towson.edu

Well, if you are graduating from an inner city school in Missouri, there
is only a 50% chance you are not functionally illiterate. However, if you
come fromm a middleclass community, there is only a 12% change you are
functionally illiterate. Good genes breed good schools. It's in the
admissions where the brains are made.

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec  3 16:31:46 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article <49nara$ep5@decaxp.harvard.edu>, slking@scws35.harvard.edu
(Stewart King) wrote:

> Frank Weltner (potato@mo.net) wrote:
> : In article <49ff2s$sa9@decaxp.harvard.edu>, slking@scws43.harvard.edu
> : (Stewart King) wrote:
> : > Frank Weltner (potato@mo.net) wrote:
> : > 
> : > : It takes 95 IQ to pass high school with a D, 100 IQ to pass high 
> : > : school with a C, and 115 IQ to pass college with a D, 123 with a C, 
> : > : 136 with a B, 144 with an A.  
> : > 
> : > I'd just like to point out, without even addressing the rest of the 
> : > post, that this correlation is completely ludicrous.  If this sort 
> : > of direct cause-and-effect system is the way you think of IQ, you're 
> : > REALLY WARPED. It is not the be-all and end-all of success or 
> : > failure.  Nowhere close. 
> : > 
> : > Let's just say that I'm not pulling my weight on this scale right now.  
> : > Plenty of naturally intelligent people just don't care at all or have 
> : > better things to do and are average students in high school.  Economics 
> : > play a role.  And so on.
> : > 
> : > Silly.
> : 
> : Wrong. IQ is the predictor for college and high school capabilities
> : measured in predictable cumulative and general area grade points. 
> 
> I'm sorry, but I simply don't believe you.  You have no reference for 
> this, and it simply doesn't make any sense.  Work - lots of it - is much 
> more important than intelligence by the time you get to college.  
> 
> : I know.  I'm an educator.
> 
> I'm a student.  I'm closer to the action.
> 
> : Sorry.
> 
> That you're an educator?  Yeah, me too.
> 
\> Stewart King -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- hee hee hough hough.
> - alt.fan.karl-malden.nose -=-=-=-=-=- http://fas-www.harvard.edu/~slking -

Nice rhetorical comback and point, Stewart. Ten points.

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Just in case you forgot, here is your worst nightmare again:


        ASCII Bell Curve Showing Distribution of White & Black IQ
                       Page 279 of The Bell Curve
                 Ethnic Differences in Cognitive Ability


THE BELL CURVE DISTRIBUTION OF BLACK AND WHITE IQ LEVELS BASED ON THE
NATIONAL LONGITUDINAL SURVEY OF YOUTH AND THE ARMED FORCES TESTING SURVEY
(NLSY & AFTS) MEASURING IQ FOR MILLIONS OF PERSONS TESTED YEAR AFTER YEAR

    BLACKS FALL ON LEFT (LOW IQ)      WHITES ON RIGHT (HIGH IQ)


                                  w
                                white
                               whites.
                              whites wh
                             whites whit
                            whites whites 
                            whites whites. 
                           whites whites wh
BLACK MEAN AVERAGE         whites whites wh     WHITE MEAN
83 IQ IS BORDERLINE       whites whites whit    AVERAGE IQ
RETARDED                 whites whites whites   100-103
                       whites whites whites whi
                   blawhites whites whites whites 
                blacks blacks whites whites whites 
blacks blacks blacks blacks black blacks whites whites 
blacks blacks blacks blacks blacks blacks blacks whites 
__________________________________________________________
IQ   50   60   70   80   90  100  110  120 130 140  150 
                      /\       /\
     BLACK MEAN IQ IS 83        WHITE MEAN IQ IS 100-103

1/2 OF BLACKS HAVE 83 IQ OR LESS       1/2 OF WHITES HAVE 100-103 IQ OR LESS
70% OF BLACKS HAVE 100-103 IQ OR LESS  30% OF WHITES HAVE 83 IQ OR LESS
--------------------------------       -------------------------------------
1/2 OF BLACKS HAVE 83 IQ OR MORE       1/2 OF WHITES HAVE 100-103 IQ OR MORE
30% OF BLACKS HAVE 100-103 IQ OR MORE  70% OF WHITES HAVE 83 IQ OR MORE

EACH 10% OF BLACKS =  4 MILLION PERSONS AND 1 MILLION ADULT BLACKS
EACH 10% OF WHITES = 20 MILLION PERSONS AND 9 MILLION ADULT WHITES
(The adult group are persons above 18 years of age)

Smarties
 3 million adult blacks are above 100 IQ
63 million adult whites are above 100 IQ

Dummies
 7 million adult blacks are below 100 IQ
63 million adult whites are below 100 IQ

It takes 95 IQ to pass high school with a D, 100 IQ to pass high school
with a C, and 115 IQ to pass college with a D, 123 with a C, 136 with a B,
144 with an A. Retardation begins at 92 IQ. 60% of blacks and 30% of
whites are BELOW 92 IQ. 50% of blacks and 20% of whites are below 83 IQ
(the black average mean IQ level).

The number of blacks with above average IQ of 100+ by comparisonto whites 
is 
1 black to each 21 white with an IQ above 100.
This means only 1 black out of every 21 above average citizens is
available for executive positions, actually about 1/3rd that amount since
the number of blacks above 130 IQ is less than 10% or about 330,000
persons. Those with degrees and an IQ above 130 are even fewer, since many
do not attend college.
This shows how easily affirmative action can place unqualified people into
positions of authority.

Prepared by Frank Weltner 1995

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec  3 16:31:48 PST 1995
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In article <49kod0$sup@decaxp.harvard.edu>, slking@scws31.harvard.edu
(Stewart King) wrote:

> David Whitt (davwhitt@med.unc.edu) wrote:
> : In article <49fg06$sa9@decaxp.harvard.edu>,
> : Stewart King  wrote:
> : >: There are other things in life beside the material and the mechanical
> : >: cleverness which enables piling it up, something our hell-bent rush to
> : >: acquire largely ignores.  Case in point, the aborigines of Australia.  A
> : >: people more in touch with their spiritual side than the people of this
> : >: country ever were or probably ever will be.  That's not only worth
> : >: something, it may be worth everything.  We continually confuse cleverness
> : >: and wisdom.
> : >
> : >Excellent, excellent point.  Sadly, never a very helpful one, because no 
> : >racist I've found would accept any measure of civilization other than 
> : >"whites invented everything", but I've always thought that, as long as 
> : >the Africans led productive and meaningful lives and were relatively 
> : >happy, what more can you ask of a civilization?  At what point on the 
> : >ladder of technology are we suddenly "civilized"?  
> 
> : If the end-all-be-all of human existence is to live, reproduce, and be
> : happy, that would put us on the same level as animals.  Humans have the
> : unique responsibility to do more.  We must explore, create, and grow.  We
> : are the universe's way of discovering itself.  
> 
> Whoa.  Convergent philosophy.  Cool.  
> 
> : I disagree with the saying "Ignorance is bliss".  
> 
> How "spirituality == ignorance"?  Wheh?
> 
> : What more you can ask of a civilization?  At what
> : point on the ladder of technology are we suddenly "civilized"?  Being
> : civilized has little to do with technology.  It has to do with the
> : exploration of what is new.  It has to do with the arts, sciences, and
> : theology.  
> 
> So how can you say that the Africans were not civilized?  They undeniably 
> had their own arts and theology - the bronzes of Benin (or was it Ghana?  
> I'll have to check) created a bit of a stir in Europe when they were 
> found, because no European seemed to want to believe that Negroes could 
> produce something so, well, artistic.  ("When the first astonishing heads 
> and busts from Ife and Benin were brought to Europe sixty years ago 
> [ around 1900 - sk ] and were seen to be portraits, or very like 
> portraits, they were greeted with a chorus of disbelief: surely they were 
> Greek or Egyptian or even Portuguese, for Negroes had never done anthing 
> like that?" - Davidson, "Lost Cities", ISBN 0-316-17431-9, p.58.)
> 
> Their religion - a combination of the native animism and assorted 
> beliefs, combined with Islam, with unique habits like matrilineal 
> succession thrown in - created a unique culture which this world had 
> never seen before and probably won't again.  How was this not 
> civilization?  How was this not a new way of looking at things?  They 
> were the only ancient civilization not to be blatantly sexist and hold
> their women down for centuries on end.  The West Africans were prosperous 
> thanks to the geographic luck of having a lot of gold just to the south 
> of them that no one else's armies could get at.  They build cities, wrote 
> books, and so on.  They just didn't seem that technologically inclined.  
> 
> Then the Europeans arrived and it all just went to hell.  Personally, I 
> think that was a loss for the world.  That's why I call it a civilization. 
> 
> : I would consider ancient Rome to be civilized even though they
> : were much more primitive than modern society.  I would consider ancient
> : China to be civilized too.  What more can you ask of a civilization?  The
> : answer is everything.  Being civilized means growing and expanding your
> : base of knowledge and arts.  This is a neverending challenge.  This is
> : what an ideal civilization should be and the closest two the world has
> : ever had are China and Europe.  Had the Middle East not become stagnant
> : since the 18th century it might be up there too, but no one else even
> : comes close.
> 
> If the standard is a neverending exploration, I would say Europe meets 
> it, at least to some degree.  I'm not sure what's going on in China right 
> now, they're not very talkative and seem to frown on "challenging" art for 
> some reason.  What little record remains seems to show that Africa was 
> reaching too, in its own way, but the very fragmentary nature of the 
> evidence shows that something bad went down.  
> 
> Personally, I think any culture that manages to destroy other cultures in 
> the course of its search for the new and different should lose points for 
> bad style.  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Stewart King -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- i am a civilization.
> - alt.fan.karl-malden.nose -=-=-=-=-=- http://fas-www.harvard.edu/~slking -

Bullshit. Lies.

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In article <49kohk$sup@decaxp.harvard.edu>, slking@scws31.harvard.edu
(Stewart King) wrote:

> David Whitt (davwhitt@med.unc.edu) wrote:
> 
> : Simply being the first is not what it's all about.  It's what you do with
> : that knowledge and experience and whether it is pasted on from gernation
> : to generation.  
> 
> So the Japanese get the real credit for the television and CD player, eh?
> Better watch out  - the "whites invented everything" squad might come for 
> you.
> 
> : What good is bragging about sailing to Australia thousands
> : of years ago when once you got there all you did was hunt and gather.  No
> : cities were ever made.  No civilizations were ever built.  Those are the
> : halmarks by which peoples are judged.
> 
> For whatever reason.  If someone managed to build a functional, fairly 
> advanced society without using cities, I for one would be impressed.
> 
> It's sort of a silly idea, but there I am.
> 
> 
> --
> Stewart King -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- in the countryside.
> - alt.fan.karl-malden.nose -=-=-=-=-=- http://fas-www.harvard.edu/~slking -

Shoddy thinking. Voltaire, Tesla, Marconi, Oppenheimer, Bell, Edison--all
Europeans, all brilliant, all chauvinists, all white, all fabulous. Give
me a Jap that isn't a poor imitation of an American and I'll give you a
ninja.

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In article <49l4c4$253@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu>, fjast+@pitt.edu (Ferris J
Anderson) wrote:

> >
> Listen, this is the first time and the last time I'm going to do this. So 
> what if I make spelling mistakes, look at the issues, spelling errors are 
> human, forgiveness is divine, racism is deadly. And to those of you who 
> had a problem with my half a brain statement. Well what I was trying to 
> say is that as a tolerant non racist conservative, I can out think any 
> racist with half my brain tied behind my back. Get a life and start 
> dealing with the issues.
> 
> 
> Kyimdaar

And here, ladies and gentlemen, are the issues...


        ASCII Bell Curve Showing Distribution of White & Black IQ
                       Page 279 of The Bell Curve
                 Ethnic Differences in Cognitive Ability


THE BELL CURVE DISTRIBUTION OF BLACK AND WHITE IQ LEVELS BASED ON THE
NATIONAL LONGITUDINAL SURVEY OF YOUTH AND THE ARMED FORCES TESTING SURVEY
(NLSY & AFTS) MEASURING IQ FOR MILLIONS OF PERSONS TESTED YEAR AFTER YEAR

    BLACKS FALL ON LEFT (LOW IQ)      WHITES ON RIGHT (HIGH IQ)


                                  w
                                white
                               whites.
                              whites wh
                             whites whit
                            whites whites 
                            whites whites. 
                           whites whites wh
BLACK MEAN AVERAGE         whites whites wh     WHITE MEAN
83 IQ IS BORDERLINE       whites whites whit    AVERAGE IQ
RETARDED                 whites whites whites   100-103
                       whites whites whites whi
                   blawhites whites whites whites 
                blacks blacks whites whites whites 
blacks blacks blacks blacks black blacks whites whites 
blacks blacks blacks blacks blacks blacks blacks whites 
__________________________________________________________
IQ   50   60   70   80   90  100  110  120 130 140  150 
                      /\       /\
     BLACK MEAN IQ IS 83        WHITE MEAN IQ IS 100-103

1/2 OF BLACKS HAVE 83 IQ OR LESS       1/2 OF WHITES HAVE 100-103 IQ OR LESS
70% OF BLACKS HAVE 100-103 IQ OR LESS  30% OF WHITES HAVE 83 IQ OR LESS
--------------------------------       -------------------------------------
1/2 OF BLACKS HAVE 83 IQ OR MORE       1/2 OF WHITES HAVE 100-103 IQ OR MORE
30% OF BLACKS HAVE 100-103 IQ OR MORE  70% OF WHITES HAVE 83 IQ OR MORE

EACH 10% OF BLACKS =  4 MILLION PERSONS AND 1 MILLION ADULT BLACKS
EACH 10% OF WHITES = 20 MILLION PERSONS AND 9 MILLION ADULT WHITES
(The adult group are persons above 18 years of age)

Smarties
 3 million adult blacks are above 100 IQ
63 million adult whites are above 100 IQ

Dummies
 7 million adult blacks are below 100 IQ
63 million adult whites are below 100 IQ

It takes 95 IQ to pass high school with a D, 100 IQ to pass high school
with a C, and 115 IQ to pass college with a D, 123 with a C, 136 with a B,
144 with an A. Retardation begins at 92 IQ. 60% of blacks and 30% of
whites are BELOW 92 IQ. 50% of blacks and 20% of whites are below 83 IQ
(the black average mean IQ level).

The number of blacks with above average IQ of 100+ by comparisonto whites 
is 
1 black to each 21 white with an IQ above 100.
This means only 1 black out of every 21 above average citizens is
available for executive positions, actually about 1/3rd that amount since
the number of blacks above 130 IQ is less than 10% or about 330,000
persons. Those with degrees and an IQ above 130 are even fewer, since many
do not attend college.
This shows how easily affirmative action can place unqualified people into
positions of authority.

Prepared by Frank Weltner 1995

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In article <49l272$1e4n@msunews.cl.msu.edu>, Martin Fox  wrote:

> potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner) wrote:
> >In article <48ni9u$eb3@decaxp.harvard.edu>, staloff@course1.harvard.edu
> >(Mark Staloff) wrote:
> >
> >> Frank Weltner (potato@mo.net) wrote:
> >> : > 
> >> : These federal fascists need to face a jury and a quick firing squad. The
> >> : idea of shooting a man's son, wife, and dog to death. What a bunch of low
> >> : lifes.
> >> 
> >> Yeah.  Just like all those soldiers in Vietnam.  And all those Germans 
> >> who killed all those Jews.
> >> 
> >> Whoops!  Sorry.  Generalizationitis doesn't discriminate.
> >> 
> >> Mark
> >
> >Mark, I thought that Harvard University taught you better than this.
> >Hitler and Vietnam are cheap thrills, over used, stereotypical, outworn
> >cliches. No one will suggest that either were good for anyone. Do you
> >really think that I am going to support Hitler? NOT. Vietnam? NOT. Even
> >though I was there, injured, kicked around, shot, scared shitless, and
> >fought like a fucking ferret when necessary.
> >
> >Hitler in no way is representative of Germans.
> 
> He was ver representative of the Germans of his time.  The Nazi party won a 
> plurality in the 1933 election, the last free one before WWII and the
one which 
> brought him to power.
> 
> > In fact, for 500 years,
> >Germany was the one country that was a haven for Jews after they were
> >kicked out of Spain in the Inquisition.
> 
> Not so.  The Turkish empire, the Netherlands, Italy were the greatest
refuge.  Also 
> you are talking about a very brief period in German-Jewish reliations.
> 
> > Germany let them stay. Instead of
> >becoming a part of Germany and melting into its structures, however, many
> >Jews were obnoxiously anti-German,
> 
> Not so.  They were rabbidly German.
> 
> My father was a US soldier during WWI and, being late to the front, was
kept in the 
> Army of Occupation along the Rhine.  Because he could manage German, he
was attached 
> to division HQ and sent out to learn what the Germans thought of the
occupation, 
> reporting back every weekend.  He would billet himself each night with a
Jewish 
> family.  He found them already, in the immediate aftermath of the war,
talking about 
> the next round, the revenge round.
> 
> > spoke Yiddish,
> 
> Not so.  Most were proud of the Hoch Deutsch that they spoke.  The
Yiddish speakers 
> mostly migrated eastward.
> 
> > wore strange clothes,
> 
> Not so.
> 
> >and did their best to look and act as strange as possible.
> 
> Only if by that you mean that many were reasonably successful and a few
were very 
> much so.
> 
> > And guess what?
> >Germans started to notice and resent this. Niggers are doing the same in
> >America.
> 
> I've been reading as I respond and now I find you true, completely
racist agenda.  
> Are your white sheet and hood back from the cleaners yet?
> 
> > Being obnoxious, taking over and destroying neigborhood after
> >neigborhood, criticizing whites, hating whites, trying to screw whites
> >over, living criminal lifestyles, being irresponsible, having a chip on
> >their shoulders. 
> 
> Souds as if the biggest chip is yours and it has RACIST written all over it.
> 
> >
> >Well, keep it up. Don't learn from Germany. No. Just keep it up. The
> >harvest will eventually be yours. Look at Bosnia. Like what's happening
> >there? Well, the people there are obnoxious to each other. Is that what
> >you want? Go for it. It doesn't make sense to me, but if it makes sense to
> >you that it's okay to irritate a vast majority of semi-liberal europeans
> >the way jews did to germans,
> 
> More of your ignorance showing up.  I'll give you the benifit of the
doubt, I should 
> have said stupidity.  You don't seem to have the capacity to learn.
> 
> > then go for it. I won't take any
> >responsibility, and I won't be the one who will kill you.
> 
> Are you sure?
> 
> > But there are
> >some low class and high class europeans who could do that in the future.
> 
> And you would approve.
> 
> >Not me. But I don't speak for everyone.
> >
> >Go for it. Criticize european civilization. Make our cities into shit as
> >you have. Live on the dole. Fill the prisons. Be irresponsible. Reap the
> >harvest. Your harvest.
> >
> >Because it doesn't make sense that whites would put up with continuous
> >criticism, burning of cities, murders, rapes, etc., forever. Some idiot
> >will come forward and lead them against you. Possibly. Is that what you
> >want? Okay. Just continue. Keep it up. You get what you pay for.
> >
> >-- 
> >---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
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> >
> 
> Your sign off "The Couch Potato" speaks for itself.  You are to lazy to
go out and 
> learn a few facts.  Maybe you are really ignorant, not stupid.
> 
> Kinder, gentler view?  That is an oxymoron (look it up) in your posting.
> 
> Martin Fox

Try this:


        ASCII Bell Curve Showing Distribution of White & Black IQ
                       Page 279 of The Bell Curve
                 Ethnic Differences in Cognitive Ability


THE BELL CURVE DISTRIBUTION OF BLACK AND WHITE IQ LEVELS BASED ON THE
NATIONAL LONGITUDINAL SURVEY OF YOUTH AND THE ARMED FORCES TESTING SURVEY
(NLSY & AFTS) MEASURING IQ FOR MILLIONS OF PERSONS TESTED YEAR AFTER YEAR

    BLACKS FALL ON LEFT (LOW IQ)      WHITES ON RIGHT (HIGH IQ)


                                  w
                                white
                               whites.
                              whites wh
                             whites whit
                            whites whites 
                            whites whites. 
                           whites whites wh
BLACK MEAN AVERAGE         whites whites wh     WHITE MEAN
83 IQ IS BORDERLINE       whites whites whit    AVERAGE IQ
RETARDED                 whites whites whites   100-103
                       whites whites whites whi
                   blawhites whites whites whites 
                blacks blacks whites whites whites 
blacks blacks blacks blacks black blacks whites whites 
blacks blacks blacks blacks blacks blacks blacks whites 
__________________________________________________________
IQ   50   60   70   80   90  100  110  120 130 140  150 
                      /\       /\
     BLACK MEAN IQ IS 83        WHITE MEAN IQ IS 100-103

1/2 OF BLACKS HAVE 83 IQ OR LESS       1/2 OF WHITES HAVE 100-103 IQ OR LESS
70% OF BLACKS HAVE 100-103 IQ OR LESS  30% OF WHITES HAVE 83 IQ OR LESS
--------------------------------       -------------------------------------
1/2 OF BLACKS HAVE 83 IQ OR MORE       1/2 OF WHITES HAVE 100-103 IQ OR MORE
30% OF BLACKS HAVE 100-103 IQ OR MORE  70% OF WHITES HAVE 83 IQ OR MORE

EACH 10% OF BLACKS =  4 MILLION PERSONS AND 1 MILLION ADULT BLACKS
EACH 10% OF WHITES = 20 MILLION PERSONS AND 9 MILLION ADULT WHITES
(The adult group are persons above 18 years of age)

Smarties
 3 million adult blacks are above 100 IQ
63 million adult whites are above 100 IQ

Dummies
 7 million adult blacks are below 100 IQ
63 million adult whites are below 100 IQ

It takes 95 IQ to pass high school with a D, 100 IQ to pass high school
with a C, and 115 IQ to pass college with a D, 123 with a C, 136 with a B,
144 with an A. Retardation begins at 92 IQ. 60% of blacks and 30% of
whites are BELOW 92 IQ. 50% of blacks and 20% of whites are below 83 IQ
(the black average mean IQ level).

The number of blacks with above average IQ of 100+ by comparisonto whites 
is 
1 black to each 21 white with an IQ above 100.
This means only 1 black out of every 21 above average citizens is
available for executive positions, actually about 1/3rd that amount since
the number of blacks above 130 IQ is less than 10% or about 330,000
persons. Those with degrees and an IQ above 130 are even fewer, since many
do not attend college.
This shows how easily affirmative action can place unqualified people into
positions of authority.

Prepared by Frank Weltner 1995

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec  3 16:31:51 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article <49l3bk$img@larry.cc.emory.edu>, libwca@larry.cc.emory.edu
(william c anderson) wrote:

> Martin Fox (fox@stt.msu.edu) wrote:
> : potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner) wrote:
> 
> : >Well, keep it up. Don't learn from Germany. No. Just keep it up. The
> : >harvest will eventually be yours. Look at Bosnia. Like what's happening
> : >there? Well, the people there are obnoxious to each other. Is that what
> : >you want? Go for it. It doesn't make sense to me, but if it makes sense to
> : >you that it's okay to irritate a vast majority of semi-liberal europeans
> : >the way jews did to germans,
> 
> : More of your ignorance showing up.  I'll give you the benifit of 
> : the doubt, I should have said stupidity.  You don't seem to have 
> : the capacity to learn.
> 
> Mr. Fox, that's not fair.  I'm sure you'll feel great regret when 
> you learn that "Frank Weltner" is actually a genetically altered
> potato--the result of a ground-breaking experiment here at ZOG 
> headquarters.  Our little spud never developed intellectual capabilities
> beyond those of a three-year old child, and is regressing now, to be sure--
> his capacity to frame a marginally rational argument has disappeared 
> entirely beneath a vile flood of grotesque obscenities and racist prattle.
> He may settle at any moment back into his natural potato-hood, but I 
> think you'll have to admit he's done pretty well for a tuberous
> vegetable.
> 
> Now, aren't you ashamed of yourself?
> 
> Bill

Yea, I'm so dumb that I arranged this for you to read....


        ASCII Bell Curve Showing Distribution of White & Black IQ
                       Page 279 of The Bell Curve
                 Ethnic Differences in Cognitive Ability


THE BELL CURVE DISTRIBUTION OF BLACK AND WHITE IQ LEVELS BASED ON THE
NATIONAL LONGITUDINAL SURVEY OF YOUTH AND THE ARMED FORCES TESTING SURVEY
(NLSY & AFTS) MEASURING IQ FOR MILLIONS OF PERSONS TESTED YEAR AFTER YEAR

    BLACKS FALL ON LEFT (LOW IQ)      WHITES ON RIGHT (HIGH IQ)


                                  w
                                white
                               whites.
                              whites wh
                             whites whit
                            whites whites 
                            whites whites. 
                           whites whites wh
BLACK MEAN AVERAGE         whites whites wh     WHITE MEAN
83 IQ IS BORDERLINE       whites whites whit    AVERAGE IQ
RETARDED                 whites whites whites   100-103
                       whites whites whites whi
                   blawhites whites whites whites 
                blacks blacks whites whites whites 
blacks blacks blacks blacks black blacks whites whites 
blacks blacks blacks blacks blacks blacks blacks whites 
__________________________________________________________
IQ   50   60   70   80   90  100  110  120 130 140  150 
                      /\       /\
     BLACK MEAN IQ IS 83        WHITE MEAN IQ IS 100-103

1/2 OF BLACKS HAVE 83 IQ OR LESS       1/2 OF WHITES HAVE 100-103 IQ OR LESS
70% OF BLACKS HAVE 100-103 IQ OR LESS  30% OF WHITES HAVE 83 IQ OR LESS
--------------------------------       -------------------------------------
1/2 OF BLACKS HAVE 83 IQ OR MORE       1/2 OF WHITES HAVE 100-103 IQ OR MORE
30% OF BLACKS HAVE 100-103 IQ OR MORE  70% OF WHITES HAVE 83 IQ OR MORE

EACH 10% OF BLACKS =  4 MILLION PERSONS AND 1 MILLION ADULT BLACKS
EACH 10% OF WHITES = 20 MILLION PERSONS AND 9 MILLION ADULT WHITES
(The adult group are persons above 18 years of age)

Smarties
 3 million adult blacks are above 100 IQ
63 million adult whites are above 100 IQ

Dummies
 7 million adult blacks are below 100 IQ
63 million adult whites are below 100 IQ

It takes 95 IQ to pass high school with a D, 100 IQ to pass high school
with a C, and 115 IQ to pass college with a D, 123 with a C, 136 with a B,
144 with an A. Retardation begins at 92 IQ. 60% of blacks and 30% of
whites are BELOW 92 IQ. 50% of blacks and 20% of whites are below 83 IQ
(the black average mean IQ level).

The number of blacks with above average IQ of 100+ by comparisonto whites 
is 
1 black to each 21 white with an IQ above 100.
This means only 1 black out of every 21 above average citizens is
available for executive positions, actually about 1/3rd that amount since
the number of blacks above 130 IQ is less than 10% or about 330,000
persons. Those with degrees and an IQ above 130 are even fewer, since many
do not attend college.
This shows how easily affirmative action can place unqualified people into
positions of authority.

Prepared by Frank Weltner 1995

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec  3 16:31:52 PST 1995
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        ASCII Bell Curve Showing Distribution of White & Black IQ
                       Page 279 of The Bell Curve
                 Ethnic Differences in Cognitive Ability


THE BELL CURVE DISTRIBUTION OF BLACK AND WHITE IQ LEVELS BASED ON THE
NATIONAL LONGITUDINAL SURVEY OF YOUTH AND THE ARMED FORCES TESTING SURVEY
(NLSY & AFTS) MEASURING IQ FOR MILLIONS OF PERSONS TESTED YEAR AFTER YEAR

    BLACKS FALL ON LEFT (LOW IQ)      WHITES ON RIGHT (HIGH IQ)


                                  w
                                white
                               whites.
                              whites wh
                             whites whit
                            whites whites 
                            whites whites. 
                           whites whites wh
BLACK MEAN AVERAGE         whites whites wh     WHITE MEAN
83 IQ IS BORDERLINE       whites whites whit    AVERAGE IQ
RETARDED                 whites whites whites   100-103
                       whites whites whites whi
                   blawhites whites whites whites 
                blacks blacks whites whites whites 
blacks blacks blacks blacks black blacks whites whites 
blacks blacks blacks blacks blacks blacks blacks whites 
__________________________________________________________
IQ   50   60   70   80   90  100  110  120 130 140  150 
                      /\       /\
     BLACK MEAN IQ IS 83        WHITE MEAN IQ IS 100-103

1/2 OF BLACKS HAVE 83 IQ OR LESS       1/2 OF WHITES HAVE 100-103 IQ OR LESS
70% OF BLACKS HAVE 100-103 IQ OR LESS  30% OF WHITES HAVE 83 IQ OR LESS
--------------------------------       -------------------------------------
1/2 OF BLACKS HAVE 83 IQ OR MORE       1/2 OF WHITES HAVE 100-103 IQ OR MORE
30% OF BLACKS HAVE 100-103 IQ OR MORE  70% OF WHITES HAVE 83 IQ OR MORE

EACH 10% OF BLACKS =  4 MILLION PERSONS AND 1 MILLION ADULT BLACKS
EACH 10% OF WHITES = 20 MILLION PERSONS AND 9 MILLION ADULT WHITES
(The adult group are persons above 18 years of age)

Smarties
 3 million adult blacks are above 100 IQ
63 million adult whites are above 100 IQ

Dummies
 7 million adult blacks are below 100 IQ
63 million adult whites are below 100 IQ

It takes 95 IQ to pass high school with a D, 100 IQ to pass high school
with a C, and 115 IQ to pass college with a D, 123 with a C, 136 with a B,
144 with an A. Retardation begins at 92 IQ. 60% of blacks and 30% of
whites are BELOW 92 IQ. 50% of blacks and 20% of whites are below 83 IQ
(the black average mean IQ level).

The number of blacks with above average IQ of 100+ by comparisonto whites 
is 
1 black to each 21 white with an IQ above 100.
This means only 1 black out of every 21 above average citizens is
available for executive positions, actually about 1/3rd that amount since
the number of blacks above 130 IQ is less than 10% or about 330,000
persons. Those with degrees and an IQ above 130 are even fewer, since many
do not attend college.
This shows how easily affirmative action can place unqualified people into
positions of authority.

Prepared by Frank Weltner 1995

In article <49p4on$du4@calvino.alaska.net>, Henry Ayre  wrote:

> kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC) wrote:
> >Archive/File: pub/orgs/american/adl/uncommon-ground/bahc
> >Last-Modified: 1995/09/25
> >
> >         The Black African Holocaust Council
> >
> >On April 19, 1994, over 2,000 individuals converged on the
> >campus of Howard University to attend a night-long even
> >dedicated to "Documenting the Black Holocaust." The crowd
> >cheered wildly as one by one, champions of demagoguery like
> >Steve Cokely, Professor Leonard Jeffries, Professor Tony
> >Martin, and Khalid Abdul Muhammad, took the stage. Each of them
> >implicated Jews and Jewish organizations in an assortment of
> >alledged plots to destroy the black community, and repeatedly
> >brought the audience to its feet with anti-white remarks.
> >Equally disturbing was the insistence by all of these men that
> >the Nazi murder of six million Jews was trivial in comparison
> >to the suffering imposed by whites on the African people.
> >
> >While this celebration of hatred was the subject of media
> >attention in the days that followed, many of the individuals
> >who took to the podium that night have faded from the
> >headlines. But, out of the spotlight, their battle cries have
> >not weakened. In fact, they have recently been provided with
> >an additional forum for their rhetoric by a group known as the
> >Black African Holocaust Council. (Anti-Defamation League, 3)
> >
> >                     Work Cited
> >
> >Anti-Defamation League. Uncommon Ground: The Black African
> >Holocaust Council and Other Links Between Black and White
> >Extremists. New York: Anti-Defamation League, 1994
> >
> Kenneth McVay OBC. 
> 
> Well! It certainly is understandable how much angst the above development 
> is causing the Zionist holocausters. Now they have to compete with the 
> Black holocausters. And where did the Black holocausters get the idea to 
> get on the band wagon? Why from the Zionist holocausters, of course! But 
> will it end there? No, why should it? Think of the possible entrants in 
> the holocauster hoola hoop: the Ukrainians, they have lost more millions 
> than the Zionists want the world to believe they lost; the Chinese, what 
> are we talking about, thirty or forty million at least; the South 
> American holocaust (remember the death squads?); and with a little 
> research we can come up with a number of other valid entries.
> 
> Rather than squelch this subject of the many holocausts down through 
> history, why not do the subject justice? Why not a massive holocaust 
> theme park with hourly live re-enactments? It would cost at least a 
> billion dollars to construct (think of the jobs it would create), and it 
> would be great fun for the whole family. Think of the tremendous spread 
> of emotions possible as one enjoys a flame-broiled hamburger to the tune 
> of shrieks of pain and groans of anguish. Or a taco. Or a Big Mac.
> 
> The holocaust theme park would be entirely fair about the space devoted 
> to each holocaust group seeking representation. The grand total claimed 
> killed, gassed, drowned, hacked up, shot, and etcetera by all the 
> entrants would be the denominator of the fractional space alotted to each 
> on the basis of that group's numerator. With only six million (and that 
> figure now admitted incorrect by Zionist holocausters themselves) the 
> originators of this fabulous holocaust fad may wind up with no more than 
> 5% of the total holocaust theme park space... probably less than that. 
> But we must be fair, mustn't we?   H. Ayre.

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec  3 16:31:53 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article <49nbc8$ep5@decaxp.harvard.edu>, slking@scws35.harvard.edu
(Stewart King) wrote:

> Frank Weltner (potato@mo.net) wrote:
> : In article <49ffb6$sa9@decaxp.harvard.edu>, slking@scws43.harvard.edu
> : (Stewart King) wrote:
> : > Frank Weltner (potato@mo.net) wrote:
> 
> : > : Blacks have large catfish lips, because they are bottom feeders, 
> : > : Kirth. Remember that the next time you lie down in the gutter with 
> : > : them. 
> : > 
> : > Wow!  And he has scholarly references for that, too!  
> : > 
> : > I mean, he must.  
> : > 
> : > Potatoes don't lie.
> : > 
> : > What up, Frank?  What book says blacks are "bottom feeders"?  This is 
> : > getting interesting.
> : > 
> : You wouldn't be interested in my sources, because you are too busy sucking
> : wet turds out of butts and crushing feces between your goddamn teeth where
> : even a tooth pick can't go, you anti-white racist fuckhead. When you are
> : sick of all this shit you think up, wipe your lips. Then, get your pinhead
> : measured. Use a 200x microscope.
> 
> Take me to bed or lose me forever.
> 
First, make me a tuna sandwish. Then, we'll see.

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In article <49m6sf$8jq@decaxp.harvard.edu>, slking@scws43.harvard.edu
(Stewart King) wrote:

> David Whitt (davwhitt@med.unc.edu) wrote:
> 
> : Those disease you have pointed out are not European.  In fact, the Black
> : Plague began in China and spread through the trade routes to the Middle
> : East and then Europe.  You say "ignorance (Europe; year 0 to the 1940s...)
> : so I take it this includes Copernicus, Galileo, Mozart, Bach, Shakespeare,
> : Newton, Einstein, etc.  What great works of art and science came from
> : Africa?  
> 
> Art?  The busts of Ife and the bronzes of Benin/Ghana (I just can't 
> remember) come to mind, but on the other hand some of the good stuff may 
> have just been lost.  

A couple of busts compared to Copernicus, Galileo, Mozart, Bach, Shakespeare,
> : Newton, Einstein, etc., not to mention Rembrandt, Raphael,
Michelangelo, Monet, and a hundred others? Please. Don't insult me. A few
busts made of bronze? That's not impressive at all. It's nothing.
> 
> : were a peace-loving people?  How do you think Europe got most of its
> : slaves?  They were sold to Europeans by tribes who had conquered other
> : tribes.  They were the prisoners of tribal war.
> 
> True - and I don't take the "Africans were a peaceful people" line - but 
> it's important to note that most of the tribal wars weren't going on 
> before the Europeans actually arrived.

If they weren't going on, then how come the Africans had all these slaves
which they were frantic to trade to the Portugese the moment they arrived.
These slaves were useless prisoners of war who would have to be killed,
because there weren't enough soldiers to keep watch over them, and they
were a public danger to the victorious Africans. If the Europeans hadn't
bought them, their black brothers would have killed them. Not a pretty
choice, but I think I'd vie for slavery versus the death penalty. I'm sure
a bunch of folks on death row would do that too on their death walk. I'm
sure you will agree with that. I know I would take slavery to death. There
would be a small chance of escape or working my way to freedom through
hard work.
> --
> Stewart King -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- oh oh oh oh yeah yeah.
> - alt.fan.karl-malden.nose -=-=-=-=-=- http://fas-www.harvard.edu/~slking -

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec  3 16:40:34 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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[snip]

> make any kind of a moral statement. The fact is that men can make lots of
> babies, and even if they have biracial children, they could still find a
> twelve-year-old HeeHaw Honey to bear his mightywhitey children. 
> 
[snip]
> 
> Rev. Jeanne K.
> 
The twelve year olds, it seems are seduced by black men over 27 years of
age. According to recent newspapers, 90% of the black girls 16 years old
and younger have babies to men over 27 years of age. They prefer young
girls, because they have less chance of having AIDS. Sorry to bring this
up. I know it ruins your argument. But life is that way, isn't it? When
you try to take up for low lifes, all of a sudden, here comes some more of
their lower lives. Right?

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec  3 16:40:35 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article <49kush$1bj@decaxp.harvard.edu>, rkadel@course2.harvard.edu
(Rachel Meredith Kadel) wrote:

> In article ,
> Frank Weltner  wrote:
> >> >Old Negro Song: "Dem bones, Dem bones. Dem crazy bones. De thigh bone
> >> >connected to de leg bone. De neck bone connected to de head bone." FW
> >> >> 
> 
> I responded:
> 
> [trim]
> >> That song, whose words are more commonly rendered
> [trim]
> >> is not about cannibalism.  It is about the story of Ezekiel in the valley 
> >> of dry bones.  
> [trim]
> >
> >Hey, Rachel? Bite me.
> >
> Sorry, I'm busy for the next, oh, millenium.  You'll have to find someone 
> else to bite you.
> 
> By the way, you're SO skilled in the techniques of rational debate.  I'm 
> impressed.
> 
>                                                         Rachel

Cute. I like it. And, having infinite patience, I shall wait.

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec  3 16:40:36 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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Subject: Re: THOUGHTCRIME AVERTED - FOR THE TIME BEING
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What would happen if the European Common Market passed a law which made it
illegal for Jews to deny they had killed Jesus as described in the
Gospels? How would this differ from the law written below by Jews saying
that Europeans cannot deny the Holocaust occurred? Where will this
thoughtcrime crap go next?

In article <222977990wnr@stumpy.demon.co.uk>, jeff@stumpy.demon.co.uk wrote:

> The following appeared in the "Evening Standard" of 24th November 1995. This 
> paper is Londons Evening newspaper.
> 
> 
> Howard: I was right to veto anti-racism policy
> 
> by Alice Miles 
> Political Staff.
> 
> HOME Secretary Michael Howard today defended his decision to block a common, 
> European policy against racism, which would have made it an offence to deny 
> the existence of the holocaust. 
> But he said he would be prepared to look at any new anti-racist proposals 
> and change British law if necessary.
> At a meeting of EU ministers in Brussels yesterday, Mr Howard infuriated 
> other member states by vetoing proposals for a legally binding common 
> declaration aimed at combating the rising tide of racist violence across 
> Europe.
> 
> The new laws would make it illegal to excuse "crimes against humanity and 
> violations of human rights" or to distribute "writings, pictures or other 
> media containing racist or xenophobic manifestos".
> Mr Howard said British race relations laws are already "more comprehensive" 
> than in other EU countries, "frankly more successful and better" and many of 
> the proposed reforms "would have been counter-productive." 
> 
> He also said that some of the laws would be irrelevant to Britain. "Problems 
> are not Identical in all the  countries of the European Union." Denial of 
> the holocaust, he said "has been a problem in some countries in Europe. It 
> has not been a very significant problem in this country." 
> And he said : "Im perfectly prepared to look at any case for changing our 
> laws which responds to the needs which we have in this country. I'm not yet 
> convinced that its been established, but I'm prepared to look at it."
> Downing Street insisted there was no need for "a new layer of European-wide 
> anti-racism legislation". A spokesman said: "The government believes we have 
> wide-ranging legislation already."
> But Anita Gradin, the European Commissioner with responsibility for home 
> affairs said: "It was very important to all the 15 countries to show that we 
> really  are concerned about racism and xenophobia.  I regret that Britain 
> was not able to say yes to the proposal."
> 
> 
> [Note: Michael Howard is himself a Jew, being the son of a refugee, from 
> Rumania in the 1930s.]   
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Jeff
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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec  3 16:40:37 PST 1995
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In article <49m6gr$pas@bigblue.oit.unc.edu>, davwhitt@med.unc.edu (David
Whitt) wrote:

> In article ,
> Frank Weltner  wrote:
> >>             450 AD      Attila the Hun invades Germany & Roman Empire
> >                          [triumphant. sacked rome. sacked N. Africa. won.
> >                          established a short-term dynasty of rulers.]
> 
> Actually Attila was defeated by a combined Roman-Visigothic army at
> Chalons in 451 AD.  He never attacked Rome, much less sacked it and never
> made it near North Africa.  You may have the Huns confused with the
> Vandals.

You are right. It was Attila the Hun who sacked Rome in 476 AD.
My mistake, sir.
> 
> >>            1200sAD      Batu Khan leads Mongols against Russia, Poland,
> >>                         and Hungary
> >                          [successful then defeated. run out of steam
> >                          soldiers. overextended.]
> 
> In 1240 Batu Khan captured Kiev and continued into Poland.  At Liegnitz he
> defeated the combined German-Polish army.  He then headed south to capture
> Budapest.  It was here in 1241 that he learned of the death of Ogidey
> (sp?) Khan, the ruler of the Mongol Empire.  A power struggle began and he
> took his army back to Mongolia.  Batu Khan's army numbered 150,000.  No
> nation in Europe could muster an army of much more than 20,000.  Had he
> continued there is a good chance Europe would have been defeated like the
> Muslims in Persia and the Chinese.
> 
You are correct again. The only thing that saved Europe was the return of
the invaders for the funeral of the Khan. Ironic, eh? The christians,
however, must have felt that God did it. Many think that the black plague
came from these Mongol invasions. The Mongols still have black plague. The
flea infests rodents in Mongolia, and the pesky little buggers didn't
bathe regularly. Besides, it's difficult to wash fur without changing its
size and fit. So, onward and upward with the fleas and the disease. The
plague killed far more people than the Mongols, and may have been a large
part of the reason why they won so quickly. The diseases of the white
reduced the population in the New World from 30 million to 500,000 natives
in less than 15 years.

> >Europe and all areas have been invaded. Africa was NEVER invaded like
> >Europe was. 
> 
> Very true.
> 
> 
> -David

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec  3 16:41:37 PST 1995
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If the whites hadn't touced Africa, the people there would not live any
differently than they do today. You say that the whites took the best
land. Why not? The Aricans weren't using it. They were living as bushmen
in grass huts. They didn't farm. They didn't need the land, didn't want
it, didn't object.

In South Africa, you mention the diamond mines. The Africans walked over
the diamond fields for centuries never bothering to bend down and pick up
a single diamond. If the whites hadn't been there, the diamonds would
still be lying on the ground, the blacks would still not be picking them
up? How could that help the blacks? They still wouldn't be selling
diamonds.

You say that the whites have the best land for farming. I don't think so.
Soweto has some of the best land and it is close to Johannesburg. But not
a single negro has bothered to make a truck farm and sell tomatoes at high
prices in Johannesburg. Not one. They have no entrepreneurial spirit. Oh,
they can stab and kill with zulu spears and guns, but make money? No.
They'd rather be tribal. Work? Hell, no. Why do that when whitey will bail
you out?

Yes, blacks were denied the vote. Who wants a savage voting against
educated people? Is their opinion of the same worth as a college educated
european's vote? Not on your life. Denied proper education? Yes. And still
are. Most blacks are not suited for college, but they don't go to school
anyway. In south africa as in america, blacks don't care about education.
They just want to kill and fuck. It's a bitch, all right.

In America, we have apartheid, too. It is done by personal choice. The
blacks don't like the whites and won't live with them. The whites don't
like the blacks and won't live with them. Only the government wants whites
and blacks to get along and live together. The government is supposed to
represent both the whites and the blacks, but it doesn't. Neither race
wants integration; they both want separation; their actions prove this;
look at every major city; segregated living. It might as well be Soweto
and Johannesbury, but its North St. Louis vs. South St. Louis, Washington
DC vs. Silver Springs MD, Roxbury MA vs. Cambridge MA. Blacks hate whites;
white hate blacks.

You don't get it, do you? Well, young men need to be idealists. When you
are over 50 years old, see all the black crime and killing, you will
change your tune, especially when they move into your neighborhood and
start the killing right behind your house as they have done in mine.

> South Africa is a country which form a good chunk of this century has
> paracticed apartheid. Something which you, no doubt, support. In Africa
> there were three levels of society. (1) White. (2) Non-white, non-black.
> (3) Black. The pretence of the apartheid government was to give the races
> all their own homelands. What they neglected to tell the world, but the
> world discovered anyway, is that the white homelands consisted of the
> geographically most profitable areas. The blacks were given tiny portions
> of the South African landscape, while the white population took for
> themselves the diamond mines, the beaches, the lush forested regions.
> Blacks were denied the vote. Blacks were denied proper education, proper
> health care, which the white population took in spades.
> 
> Only a few years ago did the ANC manage freely take power after democratic
> election in which ever South African, blacks, whites, and I suppose asians
> were permitted to vote. They now have the daunting task of undoing the
> monumental damage that the apartheid government has created.
> 
> The current mess that exists in South Africa is not the product of a
> 'nigger government' as you so quaintly put it. It is the result of a white
> government which has for decaudes tried to maintain superiority. It is the
> job of the government, led by the ANC to  fix this mess. That won't happen
> overnight. But it will happen.
> 
> So, the question you asked, Griswold, is what has whitewolf said that is
untrue?
> Everything. South Africa is the product of decades of white exploitation
> of the black population. Slavery without chains.

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec  3 16:41:37 PST 1995
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> And people wonder why Ken McVay -- with whom, by the way, I agree on this -- 
> want nimrods like Frank Welter to have the freedom to wave their little dongs 
> around Usenet. 
> 
"little dongs around Usenet."

I like it. This is great rhetoric. Ten points.

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec  3 16:41:38 PST 1995
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> Have you stopped fucking your dog yet?

Nope. He likes it too much.

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec  3 16:41:39 PST 1995
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[snip]

> make any kind of a moral statement. The fact is that men can make lots of
> babies, and even if they have biracial children, they could still find a
> twelve-year-old HeeHaw Honey to bear his mightywhitey children. 
> 
[snip]
> 
> Rev. Jeanne K.
> 
The twelve year olds, it seems are seduced by black men over 27 years of
age. According to recent newspapers, 90% of the black girls 16 years old
and younger have babies to men over 27 years of age. They prefer young
girls, because they have less chance of having AIDS. Sorry to bring this
up. I know it ruins your argument. But life is that way, isn't it? When
you try to take up for low lifes, all of a sudden, here comes some more of
their lower lives. Right?

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec  3 16:41:40 PST 1995
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In article <49kj7k$6sk@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu>,
hhh3@crux3.cit.cornell.edu (Henry H Hansteen) wrote:

> MO (ppyjmso@ppn3.physics.nottingham.ac.uk) wrote:
> : ginhal@ix.netcom.com (Gemini) wrote:
> : >
> : >
> : >>In article <49aimp$m3e@linet02.li.net>,
> : >>Edward Johnson  wrote:
> : >>>
> : >>>
> : >>>
> : >>>: The Constitution itself may be mocked by some USENET participants
in or 
> : >>>: out of the United States of America. That is not an issue. The
fact is, 
> : >>>: whether one wishes to accept it or not, ALL men and women are equal.
> : >>>
> : >What right does anyone out of the U.S. have to knock the Constitution?
> : >Let them worry about the laws of their own countries...
> : >
> : What right does America have to force its opinions on the rest of the 
> : world.
> :       Cuba, Grenada, Panama, Vietnam( Yanks got their butts kicked), etc
> 
> : We have everyt right to have a go at the US because it can't keep out of 
> : every one else faces, England should get the f**k out of ireland but who 
> : gives a damn about the americans
> 
Shut up, or we Americans may have to Yank your little Doodles again, Brits.

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec  3 16:41:41 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article <49l75s$7p7@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu>,
hhh3@crux3.cit.cornell.edu (Henry H Hansteen) wrote:

> A Halliwell (u5a77@cc.keele.ac.uk) wrote:
> : MO (ppyjmso@ppn3.physics.nottingham.ac.uk) wrote:
> : : ginhal@ix.netcom.com (Gemini) wrote:
> : : >
> : : >
> : : >>In article <49aimp$m3e@linet02.li.net>,
> : : >>Edward Johnson  wrote:
> : : >>>
> : : >>>
> : : >>>
> : : >>>: The Constitution itself may be mocked by some USENET
participants in or 
> : : >>>: out of the United States of America. That is not an issue. The
fact is, 
> : : >>>: whether one wishes to accept it or not, ALL men and women are equal.
> : : >>>
> : : >What right does anyone out of the U.S. have to knock the Constitution?
> : : >Let them worry about the laws of their own countries...
> : : >
> : : What right does America have to force its opinions on the rest of the 
> : : world.
> : :       Cuba, Grenada, Panama, Vietnam( Yanks got their butts kicked), etc
> 
> : : We have everyt right to have a go at the US because it can't keep out of 
> : : every one else faces, England should get the f**k out of ireland but who 
> : : gives a damn about the americans
> 
> : Totally agree. The Americans are so self absorbed, that when the Gulf war
> : was on, British tourism slumped because they thought Britain and Iraq were
> : nearby. How FUCKIN' stupid can they get?
> 
Wrong. We were afraid we'd be forced to make love to Margaret Thatcher.
So, we stayed out. War is a terrible thing.

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec  3 16:41:42 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article <49kush$1bj@decaxp.harvard.edu>, rkadel@course2.harvard.edu
(Rachel Meredith Kadel) wrote:

> In article ,
> Frank Weltner  wrote:
> >> >Old Negro Song: "Dem bones, Dem bones. Dem crazy bones. De thigh bone
> >> >connected to de leg bone. De neck bone connected to de head bone." FW
> >> >> 
> 
> I responded:
> 
> [trim]
> >> That song, whose words are more commonly rendered
> [trim]
> >> is not about cannibalism.  It is about the story of Ezekiel in the valley 
> >> of dry bones.  
> [trim]
> >
> >Hey, Rachel? Bite me.
> >
> Sorry, I'm busy for the next, oh, millenium.  You'll have to find someone 
> else to bite you.
> 
> By the way, you're SO skilled in the techniques of rational debate.  I'm 
> impressed.
> 
>                                                         Rachel

Cute. I like it. And, having infinite patience, I shall wait.

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec  3 16:41:42 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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I played the new Beatle song backwards, and I heard a Satanic voice saying
"John Lennon is not dead. He is in Hell." Can anyone verify this for me?

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec  3 16:41:43 PST 1995
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Subject: Re: THOUGHTCRIME AVERTED - FOR THE TIME BEING
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What would happen if the European Common Market passed a law which made it
illegal for Jews to deny they had killed Jesus as described in the
Gospels? How would this differ from the law written below by Jews saying
that Europeans cannot deny the Holocaust occurred? Where will this
thoughtcrime crap go next?

In article <222977990wnr@stumpy.demon.co.uk>, jeff@stumpy.demon.co.uk wrote:

> The following appeared in the "Evening Standard" of 24th November 1995. This 
> paper is Londons Evening newspaper.
> 
> 
> Howard: I was right to veto anti-racism policy
> 
> by Alice Miles 
> Political Staff.
> 
> HOME Secretary Michael Howard today defended his decision to block a common, 
> European policy against racism, which would have made it an offence to deny 
> the existence of the holocaust. 
> But he said he would be prepared to look at any new anti-racist proposals 
> and change British law if necessary.
> At a meeting of EU ministers in Brussels yesterday, Mr Howard infuriated 
> other member states by vetoing proposals for a legally binding common 
> declaration aimed at combating the rising tide of racist violence across 
> Europe.
> 
> The new laws would make it illegal to excuse "crimes against humanity and 
> violations of human rights" or to distribute "writings, pictures or other 
> media containing racist or xenophobic manifestos".
> Mr Howard said British race relations laws are already "more comprehensive" 
> than in other EU countries, "frankly more successful and better" and many of 
> the proposed reforms "would have been counter-productive." 
> 
> He also said that some of the laws would be irrelevant to Britain. "Problems 
> are not Identical in all the  countries of the European Union." Denial of 
> the holocaust, he said "has been a problem in some countries in Europe. It 
> has not been a very significant problem in this country." 
> And he said : "Im perfectly prepared to look at any case for changing our 
> laws which responds to the needs which we have in this country. I'm not yet 
> convinced that its been established, but I'm prepared to look at it."
> Downing Street insisted there was no need for "a new layer of European-wide 
> anti-racism legislation". A spokesman said: "The government believes we have 
> wide-ranging legislation already."
> But Anita Gradin, the European Commissioner with responsibility for home 
> affairs said: "It was very important to all the 15 countries to show that we 
> really  are concerned about racism and xenophobia.  I regret that Britain 
> was not able to say yes to the proposal."
> 
> 
> [Note: Michael Howard is himself a Jew, being the son of a refugee, from 
> Rumania in the 1930s.]   
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Jeff
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>             In the mountains of truth you never climb in vain.
>                    Friedrich Nietzsche (1844 - 1900)
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec  3 16:41:44 PST 1995
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Subject: Re: CLOC licks Frankie's boots.
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In article , anakin@pinc.com
(Rajiv K. Gandhi) wrote:

> In article <49lb69$31h@daryl.scsn.net>, xyz@scsn.net (Racial Theorist) wrote:
> 
> I think the guy who claims to be a reverend got his account revoked
> because he is a jerk.
> 
If everyone who is a jerk go his account jerked, no one would be left to
talk to. Most people are jerks in one way or another, or haven't you, in
your political correctness, noticed this? Your blinders are on too tight,
huh?

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec  3 16:41:44 PST 1995
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Subject: Re: A New Way Of Dealing With Nigras
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I think this is great! --Frank Weltner
20 Points for Humor!

In article <49llkd$49r@daryl.scsn.net>, marlow@scsn.net (Marcus W. Marlow)
wrote:

> In article ,
>    eraserhead@iglou.iglou.com (David Lynch) wrote:
> >Frank Weltner (potato@mo.net) wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ASCII Bell Curve Showing Distribution of Denny's & Ponderosa Steak 
> Quality
> >                       Page 279 of The Denny's Curve
> >                 Restaurant Differences in Grilling Ability
> >
> >
> >THE BELL CURVE DISTRIBUTION OF DENNY'S AND PONDEROSA STEAK QUALITY 
> BASED ON 
> >THE NATIONAL LONGITUDINAL SURVEY OF DINERS AND THE STEAK EATERS 
> TESTING 
> >SURVEY (NLSD & SETS) MEASURING STEAK QUALITY FOR MILLIONS OF PERSONS 
> TESTED 
> >YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR
> >
> >PONDEROSA FALL ON LEFT (BAD STEAKS)      DENNY'S ON RIGHT (GOOD 
> STEAKS)
> >
> >
> >                                  D
> >                                Denny
> >                               Denny's
> >                              Denny's D
> >                             Denny's Den
> >                            Denny's Denny 
> >                            Denny's Denny' 
> >                           Denny's Denny'sD
> >PONDEROSA MEAN AVERAGE    Denny's Denny's De    DENNY's MEAN
> >83 SQ IS BORDERLINE       Denny's Denny's De    AVERAGE SQ
> >NASTY                    Denny's Denny's Denn   YUMMY
> >                       Denny's Denny's Denny'sD 
> >                   PonDenny's Denny's Denny's Den 
> >                Ponderosa PonDenny's Denny's Denny 
> >Ponderosa Ponderosa Ponderosa Ponderosa Denny's Denny 
> >Ponderosa Ponderosa Ponderosa Ponderosa Ponderosa Denny 
> >___________________________________________________________________
> >POISONED MOLDY NASTY BAD SO-SO OKAY GOOD YUMMY DELISH SUPERB BRAVO
> >                      /\                  /\
> >     PONDEROSA MEAN SQ IS BAD            DENNY'S MEAN SQ IS YUMMY
> >
> >1/2 OF PONDEROSA HAVE BAD SQ OR LESS   1/2 OF DENNY's HAVE YUMMY SQ OR 
> LESS
> >70% OF PONDEROSA HAVE YUMMY SQ OR LESS  30% OF DENNY'S HAVE BAD SQ OR 
> LESS
> >-------------------------------------   
> -------------------------------------
> >1/2 OF PONDEROSA HAVE BAD SQ OR MORE    1/2 OF DENNY'S HAVE YUMMY SQ 
> OR MORE
> >30% OF PONDEROSA HAVE YUMMY SQ OR MORE   70% OF DENNY'S HAVE 83 SQ OR 
> MORE
> >
> >EACH 10% OF PONDEROSA =  4 MILLION STEAKS AND 1 MILLION RESTAURANTS
> >EACH 10% OF DENNY'S = 20 MILLION STEAKS AND 9 MILLION RESTAURANTS
> >(The restaurant group are locations seating more than 50.)
> >
> >Yummies
> 
>         Etc., etc.  
> 
>         David, may I suggest you take up a hobby of some sort?  Just a 
> suggestion.
> 
>         In Service,
> 
>         Col. Marcus W. Marlow
> 
>         "Working around the CLOC for the White Race"

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec  3 16:41:45 PST 1995
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In article <49m6gr$pas@bigblue.oit.unc.edu>, davwhitt@med.unc.edu (David
Whitt) wrote:

> In article ,
> Frank Weltner  wrote:
> >>             450 AD      Attila the Hun invades Germany & Roman Empire
> >                          [triumphant. sacked rome. sacked N. Africa. won.
> >                          established a short-term dynasty of rulers.]
> 
> Actually Attila was defeated by a combined Roman-Visigothic army at
> Chalons in 451 AD.  He never attacked Rome, much less sacked it and never
> made it near North Africa.  You may have the Huns confused with the
> Vandals.

You are right. It was Attila the Hun who sacked Rome in 476 AD.
My mistake, sir.
> 
> >>            1200sAD      Batu Khan leads Mongols against Russia, Poland,
> >>                         and Hungary
> >                          [successful then defeated. run out of steam
> >                          soldiers. overextended.]
> 
> In 1240 Batu Khan captured Kiev and continued into Poland.  At Liegnitz he
> defeated the combined German-Polish army.  He then headed south to capture
> Budapest.  It was here in 1241 that he learned of the death of Ogidey
> (sp?) Khan, the ruler of the Mongol Empire.  A power struggle began and he
> took his army back to Mongolia.  Batu Khan's army numbered 150,000.  No
> nation in Europe could muster an army of much more than 20,000.  Had he
> continued there is a good chance Europe would have been defeated like the
> Muslims in Persia and the Chinese.
> 
You are correct again. The only thing that saved Europe was the return of
the invaders for the funeral of the Khan. Ironic, eh? The christians,
however, must have felt that God did it. Many think that the black plague
came from these Mongol invasions. The Mongols still have black plague. The
flea infests rodents in Mongolia, and the pesky little buggers didn't
bathe regularly. Besides, it's difficult to wash fur without changing its
size and fit. So, onward and upward with the fleas and the disease. The
plague killed far more people than the Mongols, and may have been a large
part of the reason why they won so quickly. The diseases of the white
reduced the population in the New World from 30 million to 500,000 natives
in less than 15 years.

> >Europe and all areas have been invaded. Africa was NEVER invaded like
> >Europe was. 
> 
> Very true.
> 
> 
> -David

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec  3 16:42:48 PST 1995
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In article <49kj7k$6sk@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu>,
hhh3@crux3.cit.cornell.edu (Henry H Hansteen) wrote:

> MO (ppyjmso@ppn3.physics.nottingham.ac.uk) wrote:
> : ginhal@ix.netcom.com (Gemini) wrote:
> : >
> : >
> : >>In article <49aimp$m3e@linet02.li.net>,
> : >>Edward Johnson  wrote:
> : >>>
> : >>>
> : >>>
> : >>>: The Constitution itself may be mocked by some USENET participants
in or 
> : >>>: out of the United States of America. That is not an issue. The
fact is, 
> : >>>: whether one wishes to accept it or not, ALL men and women are equal.
> : >>>
> : >What right does anyone out of the U.S. have to knock the Constitution?
> : >Let them worry about the laws of their own countries...
> : >
> : What right does America have to force its opinions on the rest of the 
> : world.
> :       Cuba, Grenada, Panama, Vietnam( Yanks got their butts kicked), etc
> 
> : We have everyt right to have a go at the US because it can't keep out of 
> : every one else faces, England should get the f**k out of ireland but who 
> : gives a damn about the americans
> 
Shut up, or we Americans may have to Yank your little Doodles again, Brits.

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec  3 16:42:49 PST 1995
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In article <49l75s$7p7@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu>,
hhh3@crux3.cit.cornell.edu (Henry H Hansteen) wrote:

> A Halliwell (u5a77@cc.keele.ac.uk) wrote:
> : MO (ppyjmso@ppn3.physics.nottingham.ac.uk) wrote:
> : : ginhal@ix.netcom.com (Gemini) wrote:
> : : >
> : : >
> : : >>In article <49aimp$m3e@linet02.li.net>,
> : : >>Edward Johnson  wrote:
> : : >>>
> : : >>>
> : : >>>
> : : >>>: The Constitution itself may be mocked by some USENET
participants in or 
> : : >>>: out of the United States of America. That is not an issue. The
fact is, 
> : : >>>: whether one wishes to accept it or not, ALL men and women are equal.
> : : >>>
> : : >What right does anyone out of the U.S. have to knock the Constitution?
> : : >Let them worry about the laws of their own countries...
> : : >
> : : What right does America have to force its opinions on the rest of the 
> : : world.
> : :       Cuba, Grenada, Panama, Vietnam( Yanks got their butts kicked), etc
> 
> : : We have everyt right to have a go at the US because it can't keep out of 
> : : every one else faces, England should get the f**k out of ireland but who 
> : : gives a damn about the americans
> 
> : Totally agree. The Americans are so self absorbed, that when the Gulf war
> : was on, British tourism slumped because they thought Britain and Iraq were
> : nearby. How FUCKIN' stupid can they get?
> 
Wrong. We were afraid we'd be forced to make love to Margaret Thatcher.
So, we stayed out. War is a terrible thing.

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec  3 16:42:49 PST 1995
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In article <49m6gr$pas@bigblue.oit.unc.edu>, davwhitt@med.unc.edu (David
Whitt) wrote:

> In article ,
> Frank Weltner  wrote:
> >>             450 AD      Attila the Hun invades Germany & Roman Empire
> >                          [triumphant. sacked rome. sacked N. Africa. won.
> >                          established a short-term dynasty of rulers.]
> 
> Actually Attila was defeated by a combined Roman-Visigothic army at
> Chalons in 451 AD.  He never attacked Rome, much less sacked it and never
> made it near North Africa.  You may have the Huns confused with the
> Vandals.

You are right. It was Attila the Hun who sacked Rome in 476 AD.
My mistake, sir.
> 
> >>            1200sAD      Batu Khan leads Mongols against Russia, Poland,
> >>                         and Hungary
> >                          [successful then defeated. run out of steam
> >                          soldiers. overextended.]
> 
> In 1240 Batu Khan captured Kiev and continued into Poland.  At Liegnitz he
> defeated the combined German-Polish army.  He then headed south to capture
> Budapest.  It was here in 1241 that he learned of the death of Ogidey
> (sp?) Khan, the ruler of the Mongol Empire.  A power struggle began and he
> took his army back to Mongolia.  Batu Khan's army numbered 150,000.  No
> nation in Europe could muster an army of much more than 20,000.  Had he
> continued there is a good chance Europe would have been defeated like the
> Muslims in Persia and the Chinese.
> 
You are correct again. The only thing that saved Europe was the return of
the invaders for the funeral of the Khan. Ironic, eh? The christians,
however, must have felt that God did it. Many think that the black plague
came from these Mongol invasions. The Mongols still have black plague. The
flea infests rodents in Mongolia, and the pesky little buggers didn't
bathe regularly. Besides, it's difficult to wash fur without changing its
size and fit. So, onward and upward with the fleas and the disease. The
plague killed far more people than the Mongols, and may have been a large
part of the reason why they won so quickly. The diseases of the white
reduced the population in the New World from 30 million to 500,000 natives
in less than 15 years.

> >Europe and all areas have been invaded. Africa was NEVER invaded like
> >Europe was. 
> 
> Very true.
> 
> 
> -David

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From potato@mo.net Mon Dec  4 06:56:42 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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What would happen if the European Common Market passed a law which made it
illegal for Jews to deny they had killed Jesus as described in the
Gospels? How would this differ from the law written below by Jews saying
that Europeans cannot deny the Holocaust occurred? Where will this
thoughtcrime crap go next?

In article <222977990wnr@stumpy.demon.co.uk>, jeff@stumpy.demon.co.uk wrote:

> The following appeared in the "Evening Standard" of 24th November 1995. This 
> paper is Londons Evening newspaper.
> 
> 
> Howard: I was right to veto anti-racism policy
> 
> by Alice Miles 
> Political Staff.
> 
> HOME Secretary Michael Howard today defended his decision to block a common, 
> European policy against racism, which would have made it an offence to deny 
> the existence of the holocaust. 
> But he said he would be prepared to look at any new anti-racist proposals 
> and change British law if necessary.
> At a meeting of EU ministers in Brussels yesterday, Mr Howard infuriated 
> other member states by vetoing proposals for a legally binding common 
> declaration aimed at combating the rising tide of racist violence across 
> Europe.
> 
> The new laws would make it illegal to excuse "crimes against humanity and 
> violations of human rights" or to distribute "writings, pictures or other 
> media containing racist or xenophobic manifestos".
> Mr Howard said British race relations laws are already "more comprehensive" 
> than in other EU countries, "frankly more successful and better" and many of 
> the proposed reforms "would have been counter-productive." 
> 
> He also said that some of the laws would be irrelevant to Britain. "Problems 
> are not Identical in all the  countries of the European Union." Denial of 
> the holocaust, he said "has been a problem in some countries in Europe. It 
> has not been a very significant problem in this country." 
> And he said : "Im perfectly prepared to look at any case for changing our 
> laws which responds to the needs which we have in this country. I'm not yet 
> convinced that its been established, but I'm prepared to look at it."
> Downing Street insisted there was no need for "a new layer of European-wide 
> anti-racism legislation". A spokesman said: "The government believes we have 
> wide-ranging legislation already."
> But Anita Gradin, the European Commissioner with responsibility for home 
> affairs said: "It was very important to all the 15 countries to show that we 
> really  are concerned about racism and xenophobia.  I regret that Britain 
> was not able to say yes to the proposal."
> 
> 
> [Note: Michael Howard is himself a Jew, being the son of a refugee, from 
> Rumania in the 1930s.]   
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Jeff
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>             In the mountains of truth you never climb in vain.
>                    Friedrich Nietzsche (1844 - 1900)
> 
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From potato@mo.net Mon Dec  4 06:56:43 PST 1995
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In article <49m6gr$pas@bigblue.oit.unc.edu>, davwhitt@med.unc.edu (David
Whitt) wrote:

> In article ,
> Frank Weltner  wrote:
> >>             450 AD      Attila the Hun invades Germany & Roman Empire
> >                          [triumphant. sacked rome. sacked N. Africa. won.
> >                          established a short-term dynasty of rulers.]
> 
> Actually Attila was defeated by a combined Roman-Visigothic army at
> Chalons in 451 AD.  He never attacked Rome, much less sacked it and never
> made it near North Africa.  You may have the Huns confused with the
> Vandals.

You are right. It was Attila the Hun who sacked Rome in 476 AD.
My mistake, sir.
> 
> >>            1200sAD      Batu Khan leads Mongols against Russia, Poland,
> >>                         and Hungary
> >                          [successful then defeated. run out of steam
> >                          soldiers. overextended.]
> 
> In 1240 Batu Khan captured Kiev and continued into Poland.  At Liegnitz he
> defeated the combined German-Polish army.  He then headed south to capture
> Budapest.  It was here in 1241 that he learned of the death of Ogidey
> (sp?) Khan, the ruler of the Mongol Empire.  A power struggle began and he
> took his army back to Mongolia.  Batu Khan's army numbered 150,000.  No
> nation in Europe could muster an army of much more than 20,000.  Had he
> continued there is a good chance Europe would have been defeated like the
> Muslims in Persia and the Chinese.
> 
You are correct again. The only thing that saved Europe was the return of
the invaders for the funeral of the Khan. Ironic, eh? The christians,
however, must have felt that God did it. Many think that the black plague
came from these Mongol invasions. The Mongols still have black plague. The
flea infests rodents in Mongolia, and the pesky little buggers didn't
bathe regularly. Besides, it's difficult to wash fur without changing its
size and fit. So, onward and upward with the fleas and the disease. The
plague killed far more people than the Mongols, and may have been a large
part of the reason why they won so quickly. The diseases of the white
reduced the population in the New World from 30 million to 500,000 natives
in less than 15 years.

> >Europe and all areas have been invaded. Africa was NEVER invaded like
> >Europe was. 
> 
> Very true.
> 
> 
> -David

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From potato@mo.net Mon Dec  4 06:56:44 PST 1995
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In article <49m846$1ptv@bigblue.oit.unc.edu>, davwhitt@med.unc.edu (David
Whitt) wrote:

> In article <49l8s8$392@decaxp.harvard.edu>,
> Mark Staloff  wrote:
> >It would be incorrect to say that Spain suffered from invasions and 
> >turmoil up until a certain point where they won, after which they turned 
> >outward and became a major world power.  The trauma of invasion had been 
> >over for at least half a millenium by that point, and while their 
> >military developed from fighting the Moors it was less of a fight for 
> >survival like the type Stewart referred to and more of a relatively 
> >risk-free crusade.  Think WWII vs. Desert Storm.
> 
> While the threat was not nearly as great to Spain as it was centuries
> before, a good portion of their land was still under foreign domination. 
> I would hardly compair it to desert storm.  No US land was occupied during
> Desert Storm and the US acted more or less as mercinaries for the rich
> Kuwaitis.
> 
> >: Most of those nations did not have good ports (many were land-locked) but
> >: Germany was always a shipping nation (ever heard of the Hanseatic
> >: League?).  Germany's trade was mostly with other ports in Europe though
> >: due to its lack of unity (much like Italy).  The only major slavic nation,
> >: Russia, did create a huge colonial empire - in Asia.
> >
> >I'd have to question Germany's inclusion on this list, too, because the 
> >Turks and Mongols didn't really make it past Poland and Vienna.  Their 
> >problems were separate, as they were related to religion and internal 
> >division more than anything else.  Germans could carry on little statelet 
> >activities like trade but were unable to do colonization for that 
> >reason.  So I'll agree with you.
> 
> The combined German/Polish army was defeated at Liegnitz in 1241 by Batu
> Khan.  Germany didn't have to go through what Russia did, but it was
> affected.  
> 
> >However, there *were* ports in the areas occupied by the Turks and Mongols; 
> >the Hanseatic League operated in Poland and the Baltic centuries after the 
> >mess had been cleaned up, and before the Turks cleaned their clock the 
> >Byzantines had a huge merchant empire.  So the potential was there in 
> >those countries, and it's clear that invasions (particularly in the 
> >Byzantine example) played a big role.
> 
> The Hanseatic League operated from London to St. Petersburg in Russia. 
> The League was more interested in trading goods rather than exploration or
> colonization.
> 
> >The Russian colonial empire dates largely from the 19th century, way 
> >after the time period we're discovering, so it's not relevant.
> 
> By 1500 Muscovy controlled an area the size of western Europe.  In the
> late 1600s throughout the 1700s Russia increased in size and pushed
> further eastward.  Long before the bulk of Africa was colozied by western
> Europeans, Russians were colonizing Alaska.  One interesting point is at
> the time of Russia's expansion, the Ottoman Empire was expanding too.  It
> reached its height in the 17th century so Europe wasn't the only expanding
> culture at the time and it would be an error to think that after the Moors
> were kicked out of Spain that Europe had it easy.  Easier would be a
> better term.
> 
> 
> -DW

It is interesting that the natives of Alaska, North America, South
America, and Africa did not participate well in the success of the
Europeans. Instead of joining with them, these people preferred to go
their own cultural ways. This proves you can lead a person to water, but
you can't force them to drink.

Other peoples have followed and played one-ups-manship on Europeans and
have been very successful, more so than Europeans, and God bless them. I
salute the Singaporeans, Japanese, Hong Kongers, Taiwanese, and S. Koreans
for their successes in this respect. If they had said, they hell with it,
and gone back to their original ways, they'd still be stuffing seashells
with shrimp. Instead, they are stuffing their bank accounts. And
rightfully so, because they are providing us and others with products we
need and want.

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From potato@mo.net Mon Dec  4 06:56:44 PST 1995
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> The Moors invaded Spain in 700 AD and declined from there, while the 
> Christian Kingdoms to the north regrouped and began to recover territory 
> not long afterward.  After 1000 AD the Moors were pretty much in the same 
> position of the Byzantine Empire (holding on to some territory weakly, while
> gradually being whittled away) while after the battle of (I know I'm 
> massacring this) Las Navas de Tolosa in 1212 they were 
> reduced to the tiny state of Granada in Andalusia.  For nearly five 
> centuries before the discovery of America Christian Iberia (Navarre, Leon, 
> Castile, Aragon, and Portugal, then only the last three, and finally down 
> to Spain and Portugal) enjoyed only success in the battlefield, and three 
> centuries before Columbus they occupied nearly all the land they were ever 
> goign to conquer.
> 
It is easy to see that the adventures in America were a response of the
Spanish government as to what to do with their aggressively trained and
billetted troops after the expulsion of the Moors. America took this
energy and acted as a new avenue for Spanish militarism and patriotism.
The Mother Church was in the forefront in America as in Spain for the
ousting of the Moslem blasphemy (in America the founding of Christianity
in pagan backwoods area).

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From potato@mo.net Mon Dec  4 06:56:45 PST 1995
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In article <49lfab$lnc@ionews.io.org>, lzaird@io.org (lzaird) wrote:

> staloff@scws44.harvard.edu (Mark Staloff) wrote:
> >Alexander Baron (A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk) wrote:
> >: Ted Bundy burns in Hell.
> >But... but... corpses won't burn!
> 
> I heard Ted Bundy was partly White...

After they burned him, he was black.

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From potato@mo.net Mon Dec  4 06:56:46 PST 1995
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In article <30BE18F9.4F6A@teexnet.tamu.edu>, Richard Dunsheath
 wrote:

> Anthony E. Sterrett wrote:
> khbraith@mercator.math.uwaterloo.ca (Ken Braithwaite) writes:
> 
> > >Anthony E. Sterrett  wrote:
> 
> > >>>This shows how easily affirmative action can place unqualified people 
> into
> > >>>positions of authority.
> > >>
> > >>      1. Actually, affirmative action does NOT place people into
> > >>      postions what so ever. Affirmative action only increases
> > >>      the hiring pool of applicates.
> > >
> > >Not so. Take college admissions. It displaces some persons in favor
> > >of others on the basis of race (or whatever criterion you use) and
> > >it only comes into play after the displaced person has already been
> > >found more qualified. If he weren't he wouldn't need to be displaced.
> > 
> >         Wrong, as you say take college admission. At UCSD Math and CS
> >         grad have no Black students (I've seen all the pictures) No
> >         Black student implies NO dispalcement. I have posted the
> >         Affrimative action statements of 4 school UCSD,UCLA,SDSU
> >         and U of M. None make stronger statements than minorities
> >         are encourged to apply.
> > 
> >         And now for the coup de grace, 50% of grad student in techical
> >         fields are foriegn, SO minority students would NOT displace
> >         other American student in any case.
> 
> No displacement in those two programs at UCSD anyway.  Must be looking for a 
> lawsuit.  Well if that's all their affrimative action statements say, you've 
> proved your point to me.
> 
> Re:  Coup de grace.  Ken says that AA displaces qualified students.  Why do 
> you think that the only qualified students displaced would be foriegn?  
> Aren't most of those foriegn students minorities?  Why would a racist culture 
> educate so many minnorities?
> -- 
> Regards,
> 
> Rich

Maybe, because we arent' racist except as defined by persons who have no
other excuse for their bad behavior and lack of success in our society.
It's better than blaming themselves; it feels better.

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From potato@mo.net Mon Dec  4 06:56:47 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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Subject: Re: Europeans Defeat Enemies. Invaded by Aliens More than Africans Were.
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In article <49l99g$392@decaxp.harvard.edu>, staloff@scws31.harvard.edu
(Mark Staloff) wrote:

> Frank Weltner (potato@mo.net) wrote:
> 
> : One-half
> : the the per capita deaths on board slavers were deaths of the crew from
> : African diseases.
> 
> I'm not even going to *ask* where you got that statistic from, but I will 
> ask you this.
> 
> The slaves had no choice to be on that ship.  The crew members did.  If 
> you knew that you had at least a 25% chance of dying on any given voyage, 
> would *you* sign up for that kind of job?
> 
> And can you name any of these African diseases?  The tsetse fly doesn't 
> stray far from shore, so I can't imagine what on Earth you're referring 
> to.
> 
> Mark   

This shows your lack of knowledge on disease and epidemics. 

The Africans themselves were prisoners of war. If they had not been sold
to the slavers, their fate was death by execution. Which would you rather
have? Not much of a choice, but better than before Europeans arrived off
shore as an alternative.

When you place people together in close groups who were once in isolation,
they transmit disease. In America's civil war and world war one, four
times as many farmer boys died from diseases in the training camps and en
route to the war than from combat. Hepatitis, influenza, small pox,
typhoid, pneumonia--these and others took a tremendous toll.

Africans brought diseases with them, too. Many died from them. AIDS is a
new disease from this continent brought here. There are thousands of
tropical diseases. The average life expectancy of a white European on the
African land mass in the 1700's was less than a year due to disease.
Africans fared very poorly. Unless you are going to tell me that Dr.
Livingston brought Africans the diseases he was treating in his tent
hospitals which the Africans died like flies from.

You know, the white man is always an evil person in your views. That is
why your views are skewed and incorrect. White men were capable of great
evil, but all in all, so were the others. After all, the whites didn't go
into Africa until the 1840's. Dr. Livingston couldn't be found for thirty
years of looking, so how many whites were there? Amost none. That's how
many. None. These were black countries until the 1800's, and they were
already disasters BEFORE whites got there. And they will always be
disasters, as is the wont of their cultural ways and norms.

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From potato@mo.net Mon Dec  4 06:56:47 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article <49nb1a$7uu@newsource.ihug.co.nz>, p_stone@alchemy.co.nz
(Ourobouros) wrote:

> In article <49gu00$rp6@bigblue.oit.unc.edu>, davwhitt@med.unc.edu (David
Whitt) says:
> >
> >In article <49dhcm$h59@piltdown.phantom.com>,
> >>Yes, but Europe moved DOWN from savagery. Take a look at the Roman 
> >>Empire, & then 700's Europe & the countless holy wars.. Unfortunately, 
> >>that pesky colonialism & slavery happened to knock any chances of a 
> >>powerful country in Africa.. If Europe was invaded by the powers of 
> >>another continent, its governments overthrown & a good portion of the 
> >>population exported, I bet you wouldnt see many powerful European 
> >>countries today..
> >
> >
> >
> >You obviously know nothing of history.  Europe WAS invaded by the powers
> >of another continent, time and time again (the Persians, Huns, Mongols,
> >Moors, Turks) but they survived.  The reason there are no powerful
> >countries in Africa, is that the land is not suitable for a stable,
> >powerful nation.  Powerful nations do not last long in jungles and
> >deserts.  
> >
> >
> >-D.Whitt
> 
> 
> People in glasshouses shouldn't throw stones.  You obviously don't
> know your history very well.  Yes, Europe was invaded many time, but
> Egypt was once the most powerful nation known.  Egypt has always 
> been situated in a desert.  Egypt lasted a long time as a powerful 
> nation (circa 3100 B.C to 700 B.C, theoritically circa 500 B.C)
> 
> As for jungles the South American civilizations managed to forge 
> themselves amongst jungle.  Africa is one of the most advantegeous
> places to build an empire, it has one of the richest mineral 
> deposits in the world, a large percentage of the land in Africa is
> extremely fertile -- for agricultural purposes, and an opposing 
> trying to pass through a desert is nigh impossible (highly 
> defendable).  All this gives a great recipe for strong empires.
> 
> Consider northern Europe.  Strong plows were needed to grow crops,
> heavy plows were needed (one of the inventions of Charlemagne's 
> reign).  Trying to gather crops in frozen soil is extremely difficult 
> (try it sometime).  Northern Europe was also overgrown, inhospitable
> (Scotland and Brittany are most prevalent here).  Fields of ice are
> more infertile than deserts, yet Scandinavia, Iceland, Scotland 
> especially the northern islands (Orkney Is., for example), Greenland,
> Siberia, and "North" Northern America (Canada & Alaska) are disproofs
> to your theory.  The only difference is the Aryan race has tamed 
> those environments so that they can survive there and also thrive.
> 
> New Zealand was a subtropical jungle before the Europeans came, in
> fact some areas are still impenetrable.  Northern Territory in 
> Australia is a desert, yet the European has done extremely well taming
> that environment as well.  Not to forget the various States in 
> America that inhabit deserts as well.
> 
> Both of you should re-read your history books.  After you have done
> that, may I enjoin you to make comments on why Europe became powerful
> whereas Africa didn't?
> 
> Ourobouros.

Absolutely correct. In addition, other countries where Europeans colonized
became successful such as Singapore. Africans just don't have the same
cultural requirements or ethics needed for success in a European world.
They are losers and will probably always be losers. And, they will
probably always blame whites. 

But just point to Singapore, Hong Kong, and Taiwan as examples of colonies
that have done very well indeed. All it takes is the work ethic and
brains. Africa has little of either. The only time Africans have ever
worked was as slaves, and even now they are still bitching about picking a
little cotton even though their housing was free and their meals were
provided.

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From potato@mo.net Mon Dec  4 06:56:48 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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Subject: Re: [05/17] Uncommon Ground: Black-African Holocaust Council
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Well, I must admit it. I am impressed with what Ken McVay has found here
in this document. I wonder if this group is trying to undermine Israel
through this type of flak. Look at this quote:  "The Jews lost six million
> people; we lost more than 200 million people in the middle
> passage alone." No way. There weren't enough ships in the world to do
this. The largest number of slaves sold in the U.S.A. was 17,000 per year,
most through S. Carolina. The Carribean and S. America took about an equal
number together. If we multiply 17,000x6 times that amount to figure in
2/3 died, we get 102,000 per year of dead and safely arrived slaves.
Multiply by 400 years and we get 40.8 million. This is an overstatement,
however, because the first hundred years saw less than 2,000 slaves total
per year. The second hundred saw about 3,000-4,000 per year. The most were
in the 1750's-1820's. I would say that 2 million dead would be closer to
the truth. We will never know. What we do know is that, those that weren't
rescued by being bought were exterminated by their captors. This makes
blacks the big evil race for killing of blacks.

In article <49pf43$a38@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>, kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca
(Ken McVay OBC) wrote:

> Archive/File: pub/orgs/american/adl/uncommon-ground/look-back
> Last-Modified: 1995/09/28
> 
>                     A Look Back
> 
> A sign of BAHC's unequivocal endorsement of demagoguery can
> also be found in its list of speakers for the annual Black
> African Holocaust Conference. The group has billed its
> conference "the most historic session of its kind," and has
> described the lineup of lecturers as "greats." Among the
> groups officially sponsoring the conference each year has been
> the Nation of Islam.
> 
> At the group';s inaugural conference in Novermber of 1991,
> then NOI National Assistant Khalid Muhammad served as keynote
> speaker, according to an article in the _Amsterdam News_.
> "This African Holocaust is a helluva cost we have had to
> pay... and the Jews have played a prominent role in our
> demise," Muhammad shouted, uttering statements that have since
> become his standard routine. "The Jews lost six million
> people; we lost more than 200 million people in the middle
> passage alone."
> 
> Other presentations at the conference carried similar
> indictments of whites and Jews. Black activist attorney Alton
> Masddox told his audience that the United States government is
> privately owned.
> 
> NOI East Coast Representative Don Muhammad introduced BAHC
> members to the newly released book, _The Secret Relationship
> Between Blacks and Jews_. Written by NOI's Historical Research
> Department, it falsely argues that Jews owned Black African
> slaves "disproportionately more than any other ethnic or
> religious group."[1]
> 
> A lecture titled, "AIDS: U.S. Government's Germ Warfare At Its
> Best," was later delivered by Jack Felder. Felder has accused
> an American scientist of creating the AIDS virus, and has
> claimed that the U.S. government is involved in an experiment
> to kill tens of millions of Africans around the world by
> inoculating them with AIDS. "This government has no qualms
> about killing people....Their policies deal with destruction,"
> Felder told a Philadelphia audience of over 500, according to
> an April 8, 1992, report in the _Philadelphia New Observer_.
> 
> Additional speakers at the inaugural conference included City
> College of New York (CCNY) professor Leonard Jeffries.
> Jeffires, chairperson of CCNY's Black Studies Department,
> argued in a July 1991 lecture that "rich Jews" controlled the
> colonial slave trade, and that "Russian Jewry had a
> particularl control over the movies, and their financial
> partners, the Mafia, put together a financial system of
> destruction of Black people." Jeffries later referred to this
> lecture as "the greatest speech since the Gettysburg address."
> In the spring of 1991, Jeffries told a group of New Jersey
> students that he was "sick and tired of having the damn Jews
> showing the Holocaust down our throats." Jeffries has also
> been featured by BAHC as a speaker for the group's Friday
> Night Lecture Series, held at the When Worlds Collide Center
> of the Arts in Brooklyn, New York.
> 
> An additional BAHC Friday Night Lecture Series guest, speaking
> on February 4, 1994, was Wellesley College Professor Tony
> Martin. Martin took the opportunity to introduce his
> newly-published book, _The Jewish Onslaught_, and to autograph
> copies for BAHC members. The book, intended by Martin to be a
> personal account of the reaction at Wellesley to his assigning
> of NOI's _The Secret Relationship_, and his defense of it in
> the classroom as "historically accurate," is a rehashing of
> anti-Semitic canards and antiquated conspiracy theories.
> "Anti-Semitism," Martin wrote in one section, "once presumably
> the anguished cry of an oppressed people, has become, for the
> privileged and powerful U.S. Jewish leadership... a bludgeon
> to subdue dissent, stifle discussion, deprive African
> Americans of a living and perpetuate historical lies."
> (Anti-Defamation League, 5-6)
> 
> 1. See also the 1993 ADL publication, "Jew Hatred as History:
> An Analysis of the Nation of Islam's 'The Secret Relationship
> Between Blacks and Jews.'"
> 
>                      Work Cited
> 
> Anti-Defamation League. Uncommon Ground: The Black African
> Holocaust Council and Other Links Between Black and White
> Extremists. New York: Anti-Defamation League, 1994
> 
> -- 
>      The Nizkor Project: An Electronic Holocaust Educational Resource
>                    Anonymous ftp: ftp.almanac.bc.ca
> Nizkor Web: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/ (Under construction - permanently!)
>    Kenneth McVay OBC.  Home Page: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/~kmcvay/

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From potato@mo.net Mon Dec  4 06:56:49 PST 1995
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In article <49m9ug$78h@makai.maui.net>, "Peter B. Young"  wrote:

> potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner) wrote:
> > [Some irrelevant stuff removed]
> >I love to watch niggers shoot up dope. It makes me feel they can't shoot
> >straight, and I might live another minute. When dat needle's in dat arm,
> >dat big black dick ain't in my woman's tushee.
> >
> Is it just me or do you really have some sort of curious fascination for, and 
> dare I say, illicit attratction to, the genitals of black men?  You often
> speak of performing oral sex on black men.  Have you been seduced by the 
> stereotype of the black man having enormous equipment?  Do you feel that 
> if you drink from that font of virility you will somehow manage to exhibit 
> some of the traits you so envy?  I suspect your woman won't save it for 
> you even if you succeed in draining all the black men you can find.
> 
> Or do you simply like the taste?

Why would a man named "Peter" write trash like this? Leave the planet, low one.
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From potato@mo.net Mon Dec  4 06:56:50 PST 1995
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In article <49mdgi$f1f@castle.nando.net>, Pete Lienemann
 wrote:

> potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner) wrote:
> 
> >I'm an educator.
> 
> A matter of opinion with your opinion not being too highly valued.
> 
> P.S.  I'm curious.  What would the school system you work for have
>       to say about your postings here? 

Do I care? 
> 
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From potato@mo.net Mon Dec  4 06:56:51 PST 1995
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In article <49fc2i$6hg@castle.nando.net>, Pete Lienemann
 wrote:

> potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner) wrote:
> 
> Mr. Potato (& others, sorry about the duplicate post.  I hit the wrong
>             key.)
> 
> Back to what I was asking.  You left out the SAT which H&M used as
> supporting evidence and made the claim that the SAT was in fact,
> another IQ test.  Just curious.

No reason. Except that the SAT isn't really an IQ test. The NLSY and AFTS are.
> 
> I also wanted to comment on your IQ
> >        ASCII Bell Curve Showing Distribution of White & Black IQ
> >                       Page 279 of The Bell Curve
> >                 Ethnic Differences in Cognitive Ability
> >
> >
> >THE BELL CURVE DISTRIBUTION OF BLACK AND WHITE IQ LEVELS BASED ON THE
> >NATIONAL LONGITUDINAL SURVEY OF YOUTH AND THE ARMED FORCES TESTING SURVEY
> >(NLSY & AFTS) MEASURING IQ FOR MILLIONS OF PERSONS TESTED YEAR AFTER YEAR
> >
> >    BLACKS FALL ON LEFT (LOW IQ)      WHITES ON RIGHT (HIGH IQ)
> >
> >
> >                                  w
> >                                white
> >                               whites.
> >                              whites wh
> >                             whites whit
> >                            whites whites 
> >                            whites whites. 
> >                           whites whites wh
> >BLACK MEAN AVERAGE         whites whites wh     WHITE MEAN
> >83 IQ IS BORDERLINE       whites whites whit    AVERAGE IQ
> >RETARDED                 whites whites whites   100-103
> >                       whites whites whites whi
> >                   blawhites whites whites whites 
> >                blacks blacks whites whites whites 
> >blacks blacks blacks blacks black blacks whites whites 
> >blacks blacks blacks blacks blacks blacks blacks whites 
> >__________________________________________________________
> >IQ   50   60   70   80   90  100  110  120 130 140  150 
> >                      /\       /\
> >     BLACK MEAN IQ IS 83        WHITE MEAN IQ IS 100-103
> >
> >1/2 OF BLACKS HAVE 83 IQ OR LESS       1/2 OF WHITES HAVE 100-103 IQ OR LESS
> >70% OF BLACKS HAVE 100-103 IQ OR LESS  30% OF WHITES HAVE 83 IQ OR LESS
> >--------------------------------       -------------------------------------
> >1/2 OF BLACKS HAVE 83 IQ OR MORE       1/2 OF WHITES HAVE 100-103 IQ OR MORE
> >30% OF BLACKS HAVE 100-103 IQ OR MORE  70% OF WHITES HAVE 83 IQ OR MORE
> >
> >EACH 10% OF BLACKS =  4 MILLION PERSONS AND 1 MILLION ADULT BLACKS
> >EACH 10% OF WHITES = 20 MILLION PERSONS AND 9 MILLION ADULT WHITES
> >(The adult group are persons above 18 years of age)
> >
> >Smarties
> > 3 million adult blacks are above 100 IQ
> >63 million adult whites are above 100 IQ
> >
> >Dummies
> > 7 million adult blacks are below 100 IQ
> >63 million adult whites are below 100 IQ
> >
> >It takes 95 IQ to pass high school with a D, 100 IQ to pass high school
> >with a C, and 115 IQ to pass college with a D, 123 with a C, 136 with a B,
> >144 with an A. Retardation begins at 92 IQ. 60% of blacks and 30% of
> >whites are BELOW 92 IQ. 50% of blacks and 20% of whites are below 83 IQ
> >(the black average mean IQ level).
> >
> >The number of blacks with above average IQ of 100+ by comparisonto whites 
> >is 
> >1 black to each 21 white with an IQ above 100.
> >This means only 1 black out of every 21 above average citizens is
> >available for executive positions, actually about 1/3rd that amount since
> >the number of blacks above 130 IQ is less than 10% or about 330,000
> >persons. Those with degrees and an IQ above 130 are even fewer, since many
> >do not attend college.
> >This shows how easily affirmative action can place unqualified people into
> >positions of authority.
> >
> >Prepared by Frank Weltner 1995
> >
> >Feel free to distribute freely.
> >
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From potato@mo.net Mon Dec  4 06:56:52 PST 1995
Article: 14905 of alt.revisionism
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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> Crock of shit.  Explain how a friend I have with a measured IQ of
> 115 has an A average while another with a measured IQ of 146 has a
> C.  IQ is a marginal predictor of academic achievement at best.

Let's see. Huh. He got the test from Teddy Kennedy. Right?

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From potato@mo.net Mon Dec  4 06:56:52 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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> My son has an IQ of 155. He's also autistic.
>  
> Guess how well he's gonna do in school?
>  
> At the same time, even with his disability, he makes a hell of a lot more
> sense than our Mr. Potato-Brain.
>  
> Amazing, isn't it?
>  
How nice for you....

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From potato@mo.net Mon Dec  4 06:56:54 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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> I'm curious as to why you think Europe became powerful whereas Africa
> didn't.  From you previous comment it will probably include a great deal
> of racist propoganda and little historical and scientific merit, but I am
> in need of a good laugh.  
> 
> -DW

I believe the answer is pretty obvious. Europeans are smarter than
Africans. It doesn't take a genius to understand this. Even an African
knows it's true.

If you don't think America and Europe are so hot, why don't you go to
Africa where you evidently think the natives are far smarter, more
productive, have a better future potential, and will give you a better
life? I know some folks who will buy you a ticket if you will take Ken
McVay with you.

But you won't go. Your comments are just rhetoric. No one leaves a
European culture for an inferior 3rd world continent filled with
ignorance, disease, and no future hopes because it's filled with less
intelligent native peoples.

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From potato@mo.net Mon Dec  4 07:14:35 PST 1995
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In article ,
jeff_brown@pol.com (Jeffrey G. Brown) wrote:

> In article <49bgsl$3r7@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com>, ginhal@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> 
> > I wish we could all find a kinder, gentler view.......
> 
> I guarantee you it won't be found in the hypocritical rantings of one
> Frank Weltner.
> 
> JGB
> 
I'm not hypocritical. I live with blacks, low class blacks, and that's why
I don't like them. I see them every day. If you did, you'd change your
views, I'd bet. I am a witness. I see them do their thing. It is not nice,
Jeffrey. Not nice at all.

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From potato@mo.net Mon Dec  4 07:21:08 PST 1995
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In article ,
jeff_brown@pol.com (Jeffrey G. Brown) wrote:

> In article <49bgsl$3r7@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com>, ginhal@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> 
> > I wish we could all find a kinder, gentler view.......
> 
> I guarantee you it won't be found in the hypocritical rantings of one
> Frank Weltner.
> 
> JGB
> 
I'm not hypocritical. I live with blacks, low class blacks, and that's why
I don't like them. I see them every day. If you did, you'd change your
views, I'd bet. I am a witness. I see them do their thing. It is not nice,
Jeffrey. Not nice at all.

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From potato@mo.net Mon Dec  4 07:21:09 PST 1995
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In article <49l6j2$9v5@news.scott.net>, evil Beavis  wrote:

> >   potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner) writes:
> >  > South Africa went alright for the White's during Apartheid and before the
> >  > boycott. The Whites had their own areas separated from the niggers
and could
> >  > feel safe their. The life standard among Whites was high and the
country's
> >  > economy was good.
> >  > 
> >  Well, I don't see much difference between South Africa and America. What's
> >  the difference between Soweto and Detrot, East St. Louis, Roxbury, or
> >  Washington DC? The blacks are piled into a corner and they kill each
> >  other. See a connection here? Consistency is the mother of truth.
> 
> 
> Why do you keep posting old strings? Ran out of shit to post??
> 
> eB

No. I'm holding some back for later.

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From potato@mo.net Mon Dec  4 07:21:10 PST 1995
Article: 9724 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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Subject: Re: Black Family Values
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I think this is an example of a bogus post. How do we know what this
person claims is true is true? The Bell Curve is in the library. Just read
it. These little anecdotes are ridiculous.

In article <49l9rg$m43@limestone.kosone.com>, Rick Jones wrote:

> >   dpacker@scunix4.harvard.edu (David Packer) writes:
> >  : Frank Weltner (potato@mo.net) wrote:
> >  
> >  : : It takes 95 IQ to pass high school with a D, 100 IQ to pass high school
> >  : : with a C, and 115 IQ to pass college with a D, 123 with a C, 136
with a 
> >  : : B, 144 with an A.  
> >  
> >       I never saw this before...very interesting. My IQ: 104. My
> >  grade point (High School): A. Am I upsetting your correlation yet?
> 
> My IQ, according the the Army, is 131.  It's been tested as low as 115 and as
> high as 190, so 131 sounds like a reasonable approximation of the truth.
> I was pretty young when I got the 190.
> 
> My average grades for my five years of high school (we still have Grade
> 13 in Ontario) :
> 
> Grade 9 :   63   C-
> Grade 10:  61   C-
> Grade 11:  73   B-
> Grade 12:  83   A-
> Grade 13:  86   A
> 
> If IQ is directly proportional to high school performance, how could the same
> person have a C- average and an A average 3 years apart?  I didn't have any
> fewer brain cells when I was 13 than when I was 18.
> 
> The kicker, of course, is that although my latest IQ test sets me at 131 and 
> the alleged IQ necessary for passing college with a B is 136, I have a B
average
> at one of the most prestigious universities in this country.
> 
> Notice the lack of reference in Frank's post?  Get used to it.  He'll
keep using them.
>

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From potato@mo.net Mon Dec  4 08:43:54 PST 1995
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In article <49kj7k$6sk@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu>,
hhh3@crux3.cit.cornell.edu (Henry H Hansteen) wrote:

> MO (ppyjmso@ppn3.physics.nottingham.ac.uk) wrote:
> : ginhal@ix.netcom.com (Gemini) wrote:
> : >
> : >
> : >>In article <49aimp$m3e@linet02.li.net>,
> : >>Edward Johnson  wrote:
> : >>>
> : >>>
> : >>>
> : >>>: The Constitution itself may be mocked by some USENET participants
in or 
> : >>>: out of the United States of America. That is not an issue. The
fact is, 
> : >>>: whether one wishes to accept it or not, ALL men and women are equal.
> : >>>
> : >What right does anyone out of the U.S. have to knock the Constitution?
> : >Let them worry about the laws of their own countries...
> : >
> : What right does America have to force its opinions on the rest of the 
> : world.
> :       Cuba, Grenada, Panama, Vietnam( Yanks got their butts kicked), etc
> 
> : We have everyt right to have a go at the US because it can't keep out of 
> : every one else faces, England should get the f**k out of ireland but who 
> : gives a damn about the americans
> 
Shut up, or we Americans may have to Yank your little Doodles again, Brits.

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From potato@mo.net Mon Dec  4 08:43:55 PST 1995
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In article <49l75s$7p7@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu>,
hhh3@crux3.cit.cornell.edu (Henry H Hansteen) wrote:

> A Halliwell (u5a77@cc.keele.ac.uk) wrote:
> : MO (ppyjmso@ppn3.physics.nottingham.ac.uk) wrote:
> : : ginhal@ix.netcom.com (Gemini) wrote:
> : : >
> : : >
> : : >>In article <49aimp$m3e@linet02.li.net>,
> : : >>Edward Johnson  wrote:
> : : >>>
> : : >>>
> : : >>>
> : : >>>: The Constitution itself may be mocked by some USENET
participants in or 
> : : >>>: out of the United States of America. That is not an issue. The
fact is, 
> : : >>>: whether one wishes to accept it or not, ALL men and women are equal.
> : : >>>
> : : >What right does anyone out of the U.S. have to knock the Constitution?
> : : >Let them worry about the laws of their own countries...
> : : >
> : : What right does America have to force its opinions on the rest of the 
> : : world.
> : :       Cuba, Grenada, Panama, Vietnam( Yanks got their butts kicked), etc
> 
> : : We have everyt right to have a go at the US because it can't keep out of 
> : : every one else faces, England should get the f**k out of ireland but who 
> : : gives a damn about the americans
> 
> : Totally agree. The Americans are so self absorbed, that when the Gulf war
> : was on, British tourism slumped because they thought Britain and Iraq were
> : nearby. How FUCKIN' stupid can they get?
> 
Wrong. We were afraid we'd be forced to make love to Margaret Thatcher.
So, we stayed out. War is a terrible thing.

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From potato@mo.net Mon Dec  4 08:51:02 PST 1995
Article: 63716 of alt.politics.correct
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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Subject: Whites and Blacks from a Republican Perspective. Honestly.
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It has been said that the democratic party is the party of blacks and the
republican party is the party of whites. Many won't agree with this, but
voting statistics so far have been 90% of blacks voting for the democratic
party.

Blacks say the whites are responsible for all of their problems. In
Africa, they say whites caused black poverty. They don't mention the
blacks were in poverty before the whites got there, didn't farm, didn't
manufacture, just lived in grass huts.

If the whites hadn't touched Africa, the people there would not live any
differently than they do today. They say that the whites took the best
land. Why not? The Aricans weren't using it. As we known, they were living
as bushmen in grass huts. They didn't farm. They didn't need the land,
didn't want it, didn't object to whites taking some. Even came to barter
with whites.

In South Africa, you have the diamond mines as an illustration. The
Africans walked over the diamond fields for centuries never bothering to
bend down and pick up a single diamond. If the whites hadn't been there,
the diamonds would still be lying on the ground, the blacks would still
not be picking them up. How could that help the blacks? They still
wouldn't be selling diamonds.

Blacks in the democratic party say that the whites have the best land for
farming in S. Africa. I don't think so. Soweto has some of the best land
and it is close to Johannesburg. But not a single negro has bothered to
make a truck farm and sell tomatoes at high prices in Johannesburg. Not
one. They have no entrepreneurial spirit. Oh, they can stab and kill with
zulu spears and guns, but make money? No. They'd rather be tribal. Work?
Hell, no. Why do that when white governments will bail blacks out?

In St. Louis and elsewhere Koreans have moved stores into black areas.
Why? Because it never occurred to the blacks to open stores. Ever. Now
they hate Koreans? Why? Because they own the stores. Does this make sense?
Help me here. I don't understand it. (Am I a bigot now for pointing out
the obvious? Let it be so.)

Yes, blacks were denied the vote in S. Africa. Who wantaed an uneducated
easily led savage voting against educated people? Is their opinion of the
same worth as a college educated european's vote? Not on your life. Denied
proper education? Yes. And still are. Most blacks in Soweto are not suited
for college, but they don't go to school anyway. In south africa as in
america, blacks don't care about education. They just want to kill and
practice sex without marriage. Look at Willie Mandella. She's a murderer.
The only reason she's not in jail is that her divorced husband is the
President of S. Africa.

In America, we have apartheid, too. It is done by personal choice. The
blacks don't like the whites and won't live with them. The whites don't
like the blacks and won't live with them. With miniscule exceptions, they
both live in racial enclaves. 

Only the government wants whites and blacks to get along and live
together. The government is supposed to represent both the whites and the
blacks, but it doesn't. Neither race wants integration; they both want
separation; their actions prove this; look at every major city, and you
see segregated living. It might as well be Soweto and Johannesburg, but
its North St. Louis vs. South St. Louis, Washington DC vs. Silver Springs
MD, Roxbury MA vs. Cambridge MA. Blacks hate whites; white hate blacks.
You can't deny it. It's not nice, but that's the way it is. We talk the
talk, but we don't walk the walk, do we? Be honest now. Do you want to
move to a black area? You can afford it. Why not sell and move this month?
But you won't. Why? Crime. Murder. Incivity. Fear. Prejudice. Come on.
Admit it. Your actions, by living in white enclaves, proves it.

When you are white and over 50 years old, see all the black crime and
killing, you will change your tune, especially when they move into your
neighborhood and start the killing right behind your house as they have
done in mine.

When you are black and over 50 years old, see all the blacks in prison,
the police stopping black cars all over town, you won't want to move into
a white neighborhood and be hassled. You'll want your kids to stay in the
black neighborhood, and you will distrust and hate whites.

Funny how this fall out, isn't it? I think we, as republicans ought to
talk about it honestly, and, when we are doing so, be honest about why we,
as republicans who have the money to live anywhere, don't choose to live
in black areas, but instead pay alot more to live in our white enclaves,
far away from, let's face it, the terror of crime in black and white poor
areas. Let's face it. We prefer whites. Our actions prove it. No matter
what we say on this message area, we still live segrated and shall remain
doing so forever, unless things change. And they never, ever have. Have
they? What are the changes? None to 1%? Better odds? I don't think so.

There is an old saying that you don't marry a woman or a man with the idea
of changing the person. Why? People don't change. That's the point. People
don't change. And trying to change a large demographic group is very
difficult.

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From potato@mo.net Mon Dec  4 08:51:03 PST 1995
Article: 63737 of alt.politics.correct
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article <49kush$1bj@decaxp.harvard.edu>, rkadel@course2.harvard.edu
(Rachel Meredith Kadel) wrote:

> In article ,
> Frank Weltner  wrote:
> >> >Old Negro Song: "Dem bones, Dem bones. Dem crazy bones. De thigh bone
> >> >connected to de leg bone. De neck bone connected to de head bone." FW
> >> >> 
> 
> I responded:
> 
> [trim]
> >> That song, whose words are more commonly rendered
> [trim]
> >> is not about cannibalism.  It is about the story of Ezekiel in the valley 
> >> of dry bones.  
> [trim]
> >
> >Hey, Rachel? Bite me.
> >
> Sorry, I'm busy for the next, oh, millenium.  You'll have to find someone 
> else to bite you.
> 
> By the way, you're SO skilled in the techniques of rational debate.  I'm 
> impressed.
> 
>                                                         Rachel

Cute. I like it. And, having infinite patience, I shall wait.

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From potato@mo.net Mon Dec  4 08:51:04 PST 1995
Article: 63808 of alt.politics.correct
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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Subject: Section 8 & Dick Gephardt's Ruined City of St. Louis
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I live in Dick Gephardt's district. He has been in office for 20 years.
During that time, his policies on Section 8 have resulted in the loss of
18 white neighborhoods in North St. Louis and 5 neighborhoods in South St.
Louis. The city is now losing 500 persons per month. The housing stock is
declining rapidly, and, as people run from the terror in each
neighborhood, investors are buying houses, converting them into Section 8,
they are ruined in several years, boarded up, forcing more terrified
people out. Murder, rape, drugs--you name it, these are our lot.
Gephardt's district continues to move further out as the city loses its
middle classes.

In East St. Louis, Illinois, the Section 8 is so feared that the blacks
who live there got a new project stopped. Why? It would ruin their housing
values and raise crime.

Gephardt now wants to put Section 8 in suburban neighborhoods, thus
completing their early destruction as well.

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From potato@mo.net Mon Dec  4 08:51:05 PST 1995
Article: 63812 of alt.politics.correct
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I live in Dick Gephardt's district. He has been in office for 20 years.
During that time, his policies on Section 8 have resulted in the loss of
18 white neighborhoods in North St. Louis and 5 neighborhoods in South St.
Louis. The city is now losing 500 persons per month. The housing stock is
declining rapidly, and, as people run from the terror in each
neighborhood, investors are buying houses, converting them into Section 8,
they are ruined in several years, boarded up, forcing more terrified
people out. Murder, rape, drugs--you name it, these are our lot.
Gephardt's district continues to move further out as the city loses its
middle classes.

In East St. Louis, Illinois, the Section 8 is so feared that the blacks
who live there got a new project stopped. Why? It would ruin their housing
values and raise crime.

Gephardt now wants to put Section 8 in suburban neighborhoods, thus
completing their early destruction as well.

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From potato@mo.net Mon Dec  4 09:24:14 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article <49guj4$pt2@taco.cc.ncsu.edu>, sjcrisp@unity.ncsu.edu (Steven
J. Crisp) wrote:

> David Reilley (dreilley@pinc.com) wrote:
> 
> : You sound like the kind of person who spends a lot of time thinking about 
> : other people's peckers.
> 
> See, I am a compassionate person; I feel sorry for those less fortunate 
> than me...   :)
> 
> Steve Crisp

Maybe you'd like to think about mine.

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From potato@mo.net Mon Dec  4 11:42:53 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article <49guj4$pt2@taco.cc.ncsu.edu>, sjcrisp@unity.ncsu.edu (Steven
J. Crisp) wrote:

> David Reilley (dreilley@pinc.com) wrote:
> 
> : You sound like the kind of person who spends a lot of time thinking about 
> : other people's peckers.
> 
> See, I am a compassionate person; I feel sorry for those less fortunate 
> than me...   :)
> 
> Steve Crisp

Maybe you'd like to think about mine.

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From potato@mo.net Mon Dec  4 12:26:31 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article <49kjdc$1e0@larry.cc.emory.edu>, libwca@larry.cc.emory.edu
(william c anderson) wrote:

> Frank Weltner (potato@mo.net) wrote:
> 
> : Don't give me this "African trickster" bullshit. Lie back and recline on
> : your slanted forehead and give it up, Glenn. Your forehead is way in
> : taking up your brain.
> 
> Ah, good.  Here we see that, shortly after losing any sense of human
> rationality, the potato begins to shed also it's verbal skills, such
> as they were.  As the experiment progresses, gentlemen, you will see
> more sentences of this sort--"Your forehead is way in taking up your
> brain"--emerge from the potato.  Finally, having been endowed for a
> very brief time with a rudimentary human intelligence, the potato will
> regain it's normal vegatative state--at which point it may safely 
> be used to make soup.  
> 
> Now, on to the next step--a rutabaga which sings the Horst Wessel
> song.
> 
> Bill Anderson 
> Mad Scientist in Chief
> ZOG Control

This shows promise and humor. Nice. I must admit "way in taking up your
brain" is a rather long stretch even for the English language. It was
supposed to mean that your forehead, because it curves back, and way into
the frontal lobe area, possesses very little space for the white matter in
your brain." I beg your pardon, and I certainly didn't mean to begin an
English class assignment right here on the internet, especially without
charging first for tuition costs. However, if you so wish, enjoy! Now.
Please go back to reclining on your slanted forehead. I know how much you
enjoy that. Especially, when you eat watermelons and chicken wings.

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From potato@mo.net Tue Dec  5 08:27:51 PST 1995
Article: 15052 of alt.revisionism
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In article <30bbcd4a.1283322@news.aloha.net>, mo-o@maui.net (mo-o on maui)
wrote:

> potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner) wrote:
> 
> 
> >It takes 95 IQ to pass high school with a D, 100 IQ to pass high school
> >with a C, and 115 IQ to pass college with a D, 123 with a C, 136 with a B,
> >144 with an A. Retardation begins at 92 IQ. 60% of blacks and 30% of
> >whites are BELOW 92 IQ. 50% of blacks and 20% of whites are below 83 IQ
> >(the black average mean IQ level).
> >
> Thank you for letting us know where you fall with this post. If it is
> so correct, why is it that those that score the highest on I.Q. tests,
> as a whole, end up working in menial, repetitive jobs?

I guess the answer is going to be, "because of the white power structure,"
right? Wait and watch!!! You will be amazed.

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From potato@mo.net Tue Dec  5 08:27:52 PST 1995
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In article <49tfj0$fkh@decaxp.harvard.edu>, slking@scws31.harvard.edu
(Stewart King) wrote:

> Frank Weltner (potato@mo.net) wrote:
> 
> : Shoddy thinking. Voltaire, Tesla, Marconi, Oppenheimer, Bell, Edison--all
> : Europeans, all brilliant, all chauvinists, all white, all fabulous. Give
> : me a Jap that isn't a poor imitation of an American and I'll give you a
> : ninja.
> 
> Joshua Oppenheimer is kind of fabulous at times, I'll give you that.
> 
> 
> --
> Stewart King -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-  whoops, wrong generation.
> - alt.fan.karl-malden.nose -=-=-=-=-=- http://fas-www.harvard.edu/~slking -

It's that name. Joshua. That's it.

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From potato@mo.net Tue Dec  5 08:27:53 PST 1995
Article: 15056 of alt.revisionism
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article <49th4p$fkh@decaxp.harvard.edu>, slking@scws31.harvard.edu
(Stewart King) wrote:

> Frank Weltner (potato@mo.net) wrote:
> : In article <49nbc8$ep5@decaxp.harvard.edu>, slking@scws35.harvard.edu
> : (Stewart King) wrote:
> : > Frank Weltner (potato@mo.net) wrote:
> 
> : > : You wouldn't be interested in my sources, because you are too busy 
> : > : sucking wet turds out of butts and crushing feces between your 
> : > : goddamn teeth where even a tooth pick can't go, you anti-white 
> : > : racist fuckhead. When you are sick of all this shit you think up, 
> : > : wipe your lips. Then, get your pinhead measured. Use a 200x 
> : > : microscope. 
> : > 
> : > Take me to bed or lose me forever.
> : > 
> : First, make me a tuna sandwish. Then, we'll see.
> 
> My religion prohibits the use of tuna during foreplay.  Would you accept
> some Ho-Hos?  
> 
Maybe some Little Debbie cakes.

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From potato@mo.net Tue Dec  5 08:27:54 PST 1995
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In article <49tcnv$fag@decaxp.harvard.edu>, staloff@scws31.harvard.edu
(Mark Staloff) wrote:

> Frank Weltner (potato@mo.net) wrote:
> 
> :         ASCII Bell Curve Showing Distribution of White & Black IQ
> :                        Page 279 of The Bell Curve
> :                  Ethnic Differences in Cognitive Ability
> 
> You're absolutely right.  This *proves* the Jews deserved it.  What could 
> I have been thinking.
> 
> This is the worst non sequitir to date, Francis.  And I even took the 
> time to present my side cogently rather than just calling you a potato.
> 
> Mark

Maybe a nice emetic might still make the day really good for you!

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From potato@mo.net Tue Dec  5 08:27:55 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article <49u1pe$hpf@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>, dci1@ix.netcom.com (D.C.I.
) wrote:

>              Rodney King deserved only to be 
>              given justice after an arrest that
>              is "by the book." Talk all you want,
>              what went down was unwarranted,
>              uncalled for and unlawful. The use 
>              of force and its escalation is like
>              mist is to the rain. However, King
>              was showered longer and well before
>              there was any threat to the 21 or so                      
>              officers were present.
> 
>              DCI   


The club. Recommended by law enforcement worldwide. Accept no substitutes.

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From potato@mo.net Tue Dec  5 08:27:56 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article <49tsj7$19hs@bigblue.oit.unc.edu>, davwhitt@med.unc.edu (David
Whitt) wrote:

> In article ,
> Frank Weltner  wrote:
> >> Actually Attila was defeated by a combined Roman-Visigothic army at
> >> Chalons in 451 AD.  He never attacked Rome, much less sacked it and never
> >> made it near North Africa.  You may have the Huns confused with the
> >> Vandals.
> >
> >You are right. It was Attila the Hun who sacked Rome in 476 AD.
> >My mistake, sir.
> 
> 
> Maybe I'm missing something here, but you say I am right and then restate
> that it was Attilla the Hun who sacked Rome.  I believe it was the
> Ostrogoths who finished off Rome.
> 
> 
> -David

Sorry. It was very late at night. It was Alaric, the Visigoth, I believe.
But, then, if you were a Roman, and someone dressed in bear skin took your
favorite blue tunic, would you really care about his name and geneology?
Look at it this way. These guys were very rude to the Romans. And their
armpits, it was said later, smelled to high heaven. All those Roman baths,
yet not a one of them bathed. Real men, I guess.

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From potato@mo.net Tue Dec  5 08:27:56 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article <49tuhn$1nva@bigblue.oit.unc.edu>, davwhitt@med.unc.edu (David
Whitt) wrote:

> In article <49t3ol$dpf@decaxp.harvard.edu>,
> Stewart King  wrote:
> >: Most of the slave trade was the faught of the Arabs and Africans
> >: themselves.  The Europeans didn't go into the jungle to bring back
> >: slaves.  They purchased the slaves mostly from other Africans.  
> >
> >That doesn't change the fact that it was the pressure of the economic demand 
> >for slaves - caused by the Europeans - which caused everyone in Africa to 
> >start trying to sell their neighbors.  They had no reason to do so before.  
> >You make it sound as if, for centuries before the Europeans arrived, 
> >Africans were capturing huge numbers of other Africans, hauling them to 
> >the coast, standing on the beach and peering out at the ocean saying 
> >"Why the hell doesn't anyone ever come buy these guys?"  
> 
> Slavery was a way of life in Africa long before  Europeans arrived.  It
> was a milder form with less distance between master and servant, but it
> was still widely practice.  Europe's desire for slaves did increase the
> slave trade, but the Africans are as much to blame since they did it in
> the first place.
> 
> >: Timbuktu was already drying up before the major blow came.  The caravan
> >: routes were dying as European trade became mostly by ship and Arabs seemed
> >: more interested in killing or selling Africans than trading with them. 
> >: There was a great deal of conflict between the empires in Africa too
> >: (mainly between Mali and Songhai).  
> >
> >I'll agree with that, although Mali and Songhai could be considered 
> >basically the same empire only with the seat of power shifting back and 
> >forth between Gao and Timbuktu.
> 
> 
> There is a lot of debate about that and you are right but that would make
> it a civil war which isn't any better (actually worse when you think about
> it).  My point stands that if the Africans were not fighting Africans they
> might have been able to stand up to the Arabs and later the Europeans.
> 
> 
> -DW

Of course, if they had successfully fought off the Arabs and Europeans,
they'd still just be living in grass huts. They wouldn't have modern
medicine, highways, railroads, airports, etc., and we wouldn't have AIDS
or the democratic party. Hey. Maybe they should have left Africa alone.

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From potato@mo.net Tue Dec  5 08:27:57 PST 1995
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In article <49tfer$fkh@decaxp.harvard.edu>, slking@scws31.harvard.edu
(Stewart King) wrote:

> Frank Weltner (potato@mo.net) wrote:
> : In article <49kod0$sup@decaxp.harvard.edu>, slking@scws31.harvard.edu
> : (Stewart King) wrote:
> 
> : > If the standard is a neverending exploration, I would say Europe meets 
> : > it, at least to some degree.  I'm not sure what's going on in China right 
> : > now, they're not very talkative and seem to frown on "challenging"
art for 
> : > some reason.  What little record remains seems to show that Africa was 
> : > reaching too, in its own way, but the very fragmentary nature of the 
> : > evidence shows that something bad went down.  
> : > 
> : > Personally, I think any culture that manages to destroy other cultures in 
> : > the course of its search for the new and different should lose points for 
> : > bad style.  
> 
> : Bullshit. Lies.
> 
> 
> Yeah, that bit about Europe being a nearly perfect civilization may have 
> been a bit of a stretch.  Sorry.
> 
> Stewart King

If it wasn't so perfect, Stewart, would Parsifal have found the Sacred
Chalice? And yet, he did. Thus, the perfection of the European experience
is sustantiated in myth, opera, legend, time, and symbolism.

I'll drink to that. Yes. I believe I will.

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From potato@mo.net Tue Dec  5 08:27:58 PST 1995
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In article <49td98$fag@decaxp.harvard.edu>, staloff@scws31.harvard.edu
(Mark Staloff) wrote:

> Frank Weltner (potato@mo.net) wrote:
> 
> : Shoddy thinking. Voltaire, Tesla, Marconi, Oppenheimer, Bell, Edison--all
> : Europeans, all brilliant, all chauvinists, all white, all fabulous. Give
> : me a Jap that isn't a poor imitation of an American and I'll give you a
> : ninja.
> 
> Fabulous?
> 
> Did you just use the word "fabulous", sweetie darling?
> 
> Mark

Kissy.... Kissy.... Bugsie....

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From potato@mo.net Tue Dec  5 08:50:35 PST 1995
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In article <30C117AB.6A0F@nando.net>, Pete Lienemann  wrote:

> Gregory Gross wrote:
> 
> > Mr. Weltner is indeed a credit to his race...even if he can't figure
> > out which horse he's riding on.
> 
> Gregory -
> 
> I would like to suggest that there's an error in this statement.
> I think you may have reversed who is riding on who.  Frank likes
> them big.  (wink wink)
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> Pete Lienemann Jr.            "It is better to ask forgiveness than
> cnc115@nando.net               to ask permission."     Grace Hopper
> http://lienemann.com/                                Admiral, U.S.N.

Pete blinks during forced rear entry, you know.

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From potato@mo.net Tue Dec  5 08:50:36 PST 1995
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In article <49tj41$fkh@decaxp.harvard.edu>, slking@scws31.harvard.edu
(Stewart King) wrote:

> David Whitt (davwhitt@med.unc.edu) wrote:
> 
> : >> True - and I don't take the "Africans were a peaceful people" line - but 
> : >> it's important to note that most of the tribal wars weren't going on 
> : >> before the Europeans actually arrived.
> 
> : You know nothing of African history.  
> 
> Funny, that's what I just said to the potato in this very thread.
> 
> : Tribal wars raged so long as there were tribes.  
> 
> Of course they did.  I said "most" - the previous activity was not really 
> comparable to what happened after the Europeans arrived.
> 
> : Before the arrival of the Europeans, one major war was
> : raging between Mali and Songhai.  It was this war that weakened western
> : Africa and produced many of the slaves.  
> 
> I must revise my previous statements.  I was under the impression that 
> most slaves sold were captured for that purpose, but it appears in review 
> of my source that this is not the case, but rather that many more came 
> from existing wars than from wars incited by the slave trade (while they 
> did exist).  Some were sold by their own societies, but were usually 
> outcasts or criminals who were basically kidnapped by local slave 
> traders, white or black, and had no powerful friends to defend them.  
> 
I am happy you found this. I just posted something about that.

> It appears that the widespread social devastation which I was attributing 
> to the slave trade was more localized than I had thought.  The slaves 
> sold to the Europeans were mostly regarded as labor that could be spared, 
> as slaves in Africa were socially in much the same position as serfs in 
> feudal Europe - they were members of their master's social group, were 
> generally not agricultural laborers, and could overcome their slave 
> status with time and success.  

Also, many of these Africans who were slaves were prisoners of war. It was
difficult for the small societies to control all of these as slaves, and
they represented an ever present danger in large numbers. So, executions
of those too numerous to control were held. The Europeans by buying them
removed the threat to the victorious societies, giving them goods for
people who, if executed, would have brought these societies no benefits.
> 
> King Enterprises regrets the error.  
> 
> 
> --
> Stewart King -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-  i was wrong. love me.
> - alt.fan.karl-malden.nose -=-=-=-=-=- http://fas-www.harvard.edu/~slking -

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From potato@mo.net Tue Dec  5 08:50:37 PST 1995
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In article <49tg13$fkh@decaxp.harvard.edu>, slking@scws31.harvard.edu
(Stewart King) wrote:

> Frank Weltner (potato@mo.net) wrote:
> : In article <49m6sf$8jq@decaxp.harvard.edu>, slking@scws43.harvard.edu
> : (Stewart King) wrote:
> : > David Whitt (davwhitt@med.unc.edu) wrote:
> : > : Newton, Einstein, etc.  What great works of art and science came from
> : > : Africa?  
> : > 
> : > Art?  The busts of Ife and the bronzes of Benin/Ghana (I just can't 
> : > remember) come to mind, but on the other hand some of the good stuff may 
> : > have just been lost.  
> 
> : A couple of busts compared to Copernicus, Galileo, Mozart, Bach, 
> : Shakespeare, Newton, Einstein, etc., not to mention Rembrandt, Raphael,
> : Michelangelo, Monet, and a hundred others? Please. Don't insult me. 
> 
> You're a potato.
> 
> : A few busts made of bronze? That's not impressive at all. It's nothing.
> 
> It's a few busts made of bronze.  Certainly I don't deny that Africa's 
> lasting cultural contributions don't match up to Europe's at this point.  
> I just dispute your reasoning as to why.  But you're not denying these 
> busts exist.  What happened to the grass huts and monkeys?
> 
> : > True - and I don't take the "Africans were a peaceful people" line - but 
> : > it's important to note that most of the tribal wars weren't going on 
> : > before the Europeans actually arrived.
> 
> : If they weren't going on, then how come the Africans had all these slaves
> : which they were frantic to trade to the Portugese the moment they arrived.
> 
> You know nothing of history.  The slave trade took years, decades, to 
> gear up.  The first Portuguese explorers to arrive in Benin talked about 
> spices, pepper, not slaves.  
> 
> : These slaves were useless prisoners of war who would have to be killed,
> : because there weren't enough soldiers to keep watch over them, and they
> : were a public danger to the victorious Africans. If the Europeans hadn't
> : bought them, their black brothers would have killed them. 
> 
> Which ignores the fact that they had only been attacked and captured due 
> to the demand created by the Europeans.
> 
> : Not a pretty
> : choice, but I think I'd vie for slavery versus the death penalty. I'm sure
> : a bunch of folks on death row would do that too on their death walk. I'm
> : sure you will agree with that. I know I would take slavery to death. 
> 
> Sho' nuff, but your reasoning is pointless.  They would not face such a 
> choice if not for Europe.
> 
This is not true. The Africans were selling slaves to the Arabs for almost
one thousand years. In addition, many tribes had their own traditions of
slavery. The Europeans arrived in the middle of the African slave trade.
In fact, the Africans suggested selling African slaves for spices and
goods. The Portugese and Spanish at first refused, then decided to try it
out.

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From potato@mo.net Tue Dec  5 08:51:26 PST 1995
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In article <30C117AB.6A0F@nando.net>, Pete Lienemann  wrote:

> Gregory Gross wrote:
> 
> > Mr. Weltner is indeed a credit to his race...even if he can't figure
> > out which horse he's riding on.
> 
> Gregory -
> 
> I would like to suggest that there's an error in this statement.
> I think you may have reversed who is riding on who.  Frank likes
> them big.  (wink wink)
> 
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> http://lienemann.com/                                Admiral, U.S.N.

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From potato@mo.net Tue Dec  5 08:51:27 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article <49tj41$fkh@decaxp.harvard.edu>, slking@scws31.harvard.edu
(Stewart King) wrote:

> David Whitt (davwhitt@med.unc.edu) wrote:
> 
> : >> True - and I don't take the "Africans were a peaceful people" line - but 
> : >> it's important to note that most of the tribal wars weren't going on 
> : >> before the Europeans actually arrived.
> 
> : You know nothing of African history.  
> 
> Funny, that's what I just said to the potato in this very thread.
> 
> : Tribal wars raged so long as there were tribes.  
> 
> Of course they did.  I said "most" - the previous activity was not really 
> comparable to what happened after the Europeans arrived.
> 
> : Before the arrival of the Europeans, one major war was
> : raging between Mali and Songhai.  It was this war that weakened western
> : Africa and produced many of the slaves.  
> 
> I must revise my previous statements.  I was under the impression that 
> most slaves sold were captured for that purpose, but it appears in review 
> of my source that this is not the case, but rather that many more came 
> from existing wars than from wars incited by the slave trade (while they 
> did exist).  Some were sold by their own societies, but were usually 
> outcasts or criminals who were basically kidnapped by local slave 
> traders, white or black, and had no powerful friends to defend them.  
> 
I am happy you found this. I just posted something about that.

> It appears that the widespread social devastation which I was attributing 
> to the slave trade was more localized than I had thought.  The slaves 
> sold to the Europeans were mostly regarded as labor that could be spared, 
> as slaves in Africa were socially in much the same position as serfs in 
> feudal Europe - they were members of their master's social group, were 
> generally not agricultural laborers, and could overcome their slave 
> status with time and success.  

Also, many of these Africans who were slaves were prisoners of war. It was
difficult for the small societies to control all of these as slaves, and
they represented an ever present danger in large numbers. So, executions
of those too numerous to control were held. The Europeans by buying them
removed the threat to the victorious societies, giving them goods for
people who, if executed, would have brought these societies no benefits.
> 
> King Enterprises regrets the error.  
> 
> 
> --
> Stewart King -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-  i was wrong. love me.
> - alt.fan.karl-malden.nose -=-=-=-=-=- http://fas-www.harvard.edu/~slking -

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From potato@mo.net Tue Dec  5 08:51:28 PST 1995
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In article <49tg13$fkh@decaxp.harvard.edu>, slking@scws31.harvard.edu
(Stewart King) wrote:

> Frank Weltner (potato@mo.net) wrote:
> : In article <49m6sf$8jq@decaxp.harvard.edu>, slking@scws43.harvard.edu
> : (Stewart King) wrote:
> : > David Whitt (davwhitt@med.unc.edu) wrote:
> : > : Newton, Einstein, etc.  What great works of art and science came from
> : > : Africa?  
> : > 
> : > Art?  The busts of Ife and the bronzes of Benin/Ghana (I just can't 
> : > remember) come to mind, but on the other hand some of the good stuff may 
> : > have just been lost.  
> 
> : A couple of busts compared to Copernicus, Galileo, Mozart, Bach, 
> : Shakespeare, Newton, Einstein, etc., not to mention Rembrandt, Raphael,
> : Michelangelo, Monet, and a hundred others? Please. Don't insult me. 
> 
> You're a potato.
> 
> : A few busts made of bronze? That's not impressive at all. It's nothing.
> 
> It's a few busts made of bronze.  Certainly I don't deny that Africa's 
> lasting cultural contributions don't match up to Europe's at this point.  
> I just dispute your reasoning as to why.  But you're not denying these 
> busts exist.  What happened to the grass huts and monkeys?
> 
> : > True - and I don't take the "Africans were a peaceful people" line - but 
> : > it's important to note that most of the tribal wars weren't going on 
> : > before the Europeans actually arrived.
> 
> : If they weren't going on, then how come the Africans had all these slaves
> : which they were frantic to trade to the Portugese the moment they arrived.
> 
> You know nothing of history.  The slave trade took years, decades, to 
> gear up.  The first Portuguese explorers to arrive in Benin talked about 
> spices, pepper, not slaves.  
> 
> : These slaves were useless prisoners of war who would have to be killed,
> : because there weren't enough soldiers to keep watch over them, and they
> : were a public danger to the victorious Africans. If the Europeans hadn't
> : bought them, their black brothers would have killed them. 
> 
> Which ignores the fact that they had only been attacked and captured due 
> to the demand created by the Europeans.
> 
> : Not a pretty
> : choice, but I think I'd vie for slavery versus the death penalty. I'm sure
> : a bunch of folks on death row would do that too on their death walk. I'm
> : sure you will agree with that. I know I would take slavery to death. 
> 
> Sho' nuff, but your reasoning is pointless.  They would not face such a 
> choice if not for Europe.
> 
This is not true. The Africans were selling slaves to the Arabs for almost
one thousand years. In addition, many tribes had their own traditions of
slavery. The Europeans arrived in the middle of the African slave trade.
In fact, the Africans suggested selling African slaves for spices and
goods. The Portugese and Spanish at first refused, then decided to try it
out.

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From potato@mo.net Tue Dec  5 11:42:51 PST 1995
Article: 9859 of alt.politics.white-power
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In article <49ka2d$2dj@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu>,
hhh3@crux3.cit.cornell.edu (Henry H Hansteen) wrote:

> Stewart King (slking@scws31.harvard.edu) wrote:
> : Frank Weltner (potato@mo.net) wrote:
> 
> : : There is just one more thing:    KISS MY ASS, LIVID MONKEY BRAINS
> 
> : I think we've destroyed its "mind" at last.
> 
> : I'm still amazed that they managed to grow a potato that big in Missouri.
> 
> : Just hope they don't make any new plants from the eyes.
> 
I warn you. There is a potato pod waiting to become you when you sleep
tonight. Be warned!

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From potato@mo.net Tue Dec  5 12:19:11 PST 1995
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In article <49ka2d$2dj@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu>,
hhh3@crux3.cit.cornell.edu (Henry H Hansteen) wrote:

> Stewart King (slking@scws31.harvard.edu) wrote:
> : Frank Weltner (potato@mo.net) wrote:
> 
> : : There is just one more thing:    KISS MY ASS, LIVID MONKEY BRAINS
> 
> : I think we've destroyed its "mind" at last.
> 
> : I'm still amazed that they managed to grow a potato that big in Missouri.
> 
> : Just hope they don't make any new plants from the eyes.
> 
I warn you. There is a potato pod waiting to become you when you sleep
tonight. Be warned!

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From potato@mo.net Tue Dec  5 12:27:18 PST 1995
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In article <49ka2d$2dj@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu>,
hhh3@crux3.cit.cornell.edu (Henry H Hansteen) wrote:

> Stewart King (slking@scws31.harvard.edu) wrote:
> : Frank Weltner (potato@mo.net) wrote:
> 
> : : There is just one more thing:    KISS MY ASS, LIVID MONKEY BRAINS
> 
> : I think we've destroyed its "mind" at last.
> 
> : I'm still amazed that they managed to grow a potato that big in Missouri.
> 
> : Just hope they don't make any new plants from the eyes.
> 
I warn you. There is a potato pod waiting to become you when you sleep
tonight. Be warned!

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From potato@mo.net Tue Dec  5 15:39:32 PST 1995
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In article ,
Rich Thompson  wrote:

> On Sun, 3 Dec 1995, Frank Weltner wrote:
> 
> > criminal backgrounds around. However, they live in white enclaves way the
> > hell away from blacks, and then talk about how much they love them. 
> 
> FYI, I live around a lot of Black people. I also worship in a 
> predominately Black church. The only time I EVER had any physical threat 
> to my person was one summer in the all-white community I grew up in when 
> some stupid redneck tried to to run me down in his truck.
> 
> > I live next door to blacks. I see them everyday. Doesn't it seem I 
> would be more
> > familiar with their characteristics than these liberal hypocrites who
> > protect their families from these monkeys?
> 
> Let's see, an educator who lives close to Blacks.
> Aha! Frank is a nanny, probably for some wealthy Black family.
> That would explain all the hostility.
> I imagine Frank had an inordinate amount of diapers to clean today.
> 
> Peace,
> Rich

"Cleanliness is next to Godliness." Aldous Huxley, Brave New World.

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From potato@mo.net Tue Dec  5 15:39:33 PST 1995
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In article <49ptej$lnk@larry.cc.emory.edu>, libwca@larry.cc.emory.edu
(william c anderson) wrote:

> KT (speedy5@ibm.net) wrote:
> 
> : Generally niggers were/are primitive creatures and would never have 
> : established a civilization on their own.
> 
> : Liberal people conveniently ignore this basic fact.
> 
> Sigh.
> 
> The fact is, Speed-o, you aren't a conservative--you're a nutcase.  The
> opposite of what you are, therefore, is not "liberal," but "rational
> human being".  Your constant insistence that, by your tired, sad racist
> tripe, you are opposing the "liberals" is an insult to decent, rational
> conservatives everywhere.
> 
> But I shouldn't have to keep defending them; I am a liberal.  Therefore,
> I've added alt.fan.rush-limbaugh to the newsgroup line, in the hope that
> you will be deluged with mail from angry conservatives.
> 
> Bill

Yawn.

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From potato@mo.net Tue Dec  5 15:39:34 PST 1995
Article: 15139 of alt.revisionism
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In article ,
loyal-African@shingira.demon.co.uk wrote:

> In article <49pq3l$h67@larry.cc.emory.edu>, 
writes:
> 
> > Frank Weltner (potato@mo.net) wrote:
> >
> > 
> > : Hey, Bill? Bite my ass.
> > 
> > Yeah, like that, Frankie.
> > 
> > Keep it up, son.  You're doing a far better job of discrediting your
> > position than I could ever do.
> > 
> > Bill
> 
> 
> Hmmm, you are most definitely correct, Bill. 

Byte me.

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From potato@mo.net Tue Dec  5 19:42:03 PST 1995
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Thank you for giving me the opportunity to find and read Sternberg's
famous interview on The Bell Curve.

I found the interview interesting, especially the information about
Sternberg's own theories and his anecdotal personal acquaintance with IQ
testing which convinced him that self-esteem and motivation by influential
teachers might have had a profound effect on his scores. In addition, Mr.
Sternberg might have added that they had a profound effect on this
professional view of the tests themselves.

Mr. Sternberg's ideas are very interesting, and he does not say that The
Bell Curve is incorrect, only that the jury is out. The fact is that
psychologists are still arguing over terminologies, hypothesis, and
factual data streams. They probably always will be, based on what has
occurred in the past in that field.

The fact of blacks, asians, jews, hispanics, and whites having differing
group scores, however, is defended in the interview. Only the standard
deviation amount is disputed, and Sternberg does not give any source for
his opinions on that matter, and the authors of The Bell Curve give a
great deal of detail on that area.

I believe that it is impossible to refute the low IQ of blacks as
demonstrated in National Longitudinal Survey of Youth results and Armed
Forces Test Survey results, because these literally cover millions of
tested subjects. There is no better and in-depth listing of test results.
In addition, looking at these results, we find the following approximate
IQ finding for Mean Average IQ factor:

Jews       115 IQ
Asians     113 IQ
Whites     100 IQ (Included Hispanic which bring down the figure)
Blacks      83 IQ

15 IQ points represent what is termed 1 Standard Deviation in IQ Factor
and is a LARGE number, very significant. Don't ask me why. I used to know.
It goes back a long way in testing and measurement and was a yardstick
that was developed and remains.

Blacks are 1 Standard Deviation below whites and 2 Standard Deviations
below Jews and Asians.

Jews are 1 Standard Deviation above whites as are asians, although some
tests show asians about 3 IQ points or .2 Standard Deviations above
whites.

The norm of 100 points is based on whites, because whites developed the
tests. Other groups fall or rise above the white mean. The test must
produce a mean average of 100 for whites, and, by looking at black and
asian and jewish groupings, scientists have noticed how they deviate from
this artificial norm.

The interesting thing about the Sternberg interview is his candor in
saying that, yes, he has some disagreements, and, yes, he has some
agreements. What he is saying is that, okay, these groups fall into
approximately what The Bell Curve reveals. Sternberg then, has his own
theories, a tripartate theory which is a trinitarian view of intelligence
including academic (typical IQ tests), symbolic (problem solving, his
own), and practical (common sense, his own). He feels that some factors in
these other two groups need to be expressed for a 3 dimensional view of
each client.

I can agree with that, too. He has a valid point here. I am not sure how
well it fits, but some people have differing strength areas including, as
Sternberg points out, personality, getting along, cooperating, nurturing,
parenting abilities, flexibility, etc., which correlate with potential and
ability in jobs and in college studies.

Yet, his agreements with The Bell Curve seem to be about equal to his
disagreements. He doesn't say the authors of The Bell Curve are terrible
askew in their findings; in fact, he points out, what I have in many of my
postings, that these authors feel that the "reason" for lower and higher
intelligence probably stems from genetics as well as environment, but to
what extent, if any, the absolute proof awaits. They point to some works
that suggest genetics as being most fruitful, but say that, heck, if it's
environment or partial so, no matter. The statistics are still there.

Let's say, for instance, just to be practical, that black intelligence
scores are low NOT because of genetics. Okay? Fine. Now, we then look at
the family structure and lack of interest in black children by their
mothers who are of low IQ, may be hooked on crack cocaine, are too young
to lead children, and have other problems which make it difficult for them
to provide high IQ nurturing skills. What do we have then in terms of the
child's IQ potential? Has anything changed? Not one bit. 

If environment and nurturing affect IQ, and if the black parent does not
have the cultural, mental, or social interest to produce a high IQ baby
through her actions as a parent and her lack of interest in her child or
her lack of ability to have the proper skills needed to affect a high IQ
baby, what we have is this:  A low IQ baby.

The result is the same. The black group continues to spawn low IQ babies
through lifestyle choices, continuation of parental ignorance, continued
out-of-wedlock childbirthing, etc. We still continue for generation after
generation to have low IQ black babies with uncivil tendencies, high
potential for crime (due to low abilities to solve problems without
quickly resorting to violence as a strong outcome choice), and general
inability to focus or appreciate learning as a way of life.

We still, then, have the same thing: Low intelligence blacks, average
intelligence whites, and higher intelligence Jews and asians. 

So, where's the problem? It might even be that we might be better off if
genetics are at fault, because with modern advances in genetics, the
answer might well be medical and have a promising outcome through genetic
engineering to improve intelligence in blacks, whites, jews, and asians
alike. Maybe violence is genetic; maybe genetic engineering can help that.
What could be better?

Most people like myself who are afraid of black violence are not afraid of
blacks who are intelligent, clever, lucid, communicative, non-violent, and
fun to be with. Great. I'd love to live with such people. What I don't
want to do is live in a black criminal subculture because Section 8 is
transplanting these losers into what was once a peaceful white
neighborhood, and now is a violent changing neighborhood. My rights have
been violated in this process, and I deserve at the least monetary
recompense from the government for destroying my life, community, property
values, and lifestyle. Their policies have affected my quality of life
negatively. Do you mind? Look at this!

If calm, intelligent, college educated blacks with family values moved in,
I'd be hysterically happy about it. I'd stay here. But I don't think
anyone with middleclass values and half a brain wants to live in a crack
infested environment. I don't get into drugs. I don't care if drugs are
legalized. I just don't bother one way or the other. But two people were
killed behind my house last year, and it was by blacks who, without
Section 8, probably would never have come here.

Where are MY rights? And if intelligence really is a part of this equation
of criminality versus cultural identity, why not study it?

Anyway, I found the article interesting. The http://www is below on this
if anyone else wants to read it, and I recommend it. I also recommend
reading The Bell Curve. It is 800 pages of dynamite, interesting, well
written social study tied to various IQ, socioeconomic, and related
statistical events. In fact, if I hadn't read it, I would not have
believed that statistics could be written as interestingly as this. (I
know. There is no such word as interestingly.)

Frank Weltner

P.S. If all blacks could be smart, I would love it. In fact, I'd probably
like alot more of them. After all, I used to register blacks in
Mississippi, and my best friend for 20 years was a black man named Bob
Howard who unfortunately died of a heart attack recently. I miss him. He
was a nice man with a great sense of humor. I will never forget Bob. I met
him when I taught high school. We traveled alot together and kept in
contact alot.



In article ,
jeff_brown@pol.com (Jeffrey G. Brown) wrote:

> In article , potato@mo.net
> (Frank Weltner) wrote:
> 
> >         ASCII Bell Curve Showing Distribution of White & Black IQ
> >                        Page 279 of The Bell Curve
> >                  Ethnic Differences in Cognitive Ability
> 
> [snip]
> 
> For a considerably more in-depth discussion of _The Bell Curve_, see the
> recent issue of _Skeptic_ magazine (volume 3 issue 3, 1995), which carried
> several article on the controversy. One article, an interview with
> psychologist and psychometrician Robert Sternberg, is available in its
> entirety at
> 
>   
> 
> The current issue of _Skeptic_ (volume 3 number 4), now on newsstands,
> carries numerous followup letters to the debate.
> 
> The _Skeptic_ magazine web site is at 
> 
>   
> 
> They have a special introductory subscription rate available for
Internet users.
> 
> [Special note to Weltner: There are four actual, specific references in my
> article above. Can you find them?]
> 
> JGB
> 
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown                                   jeff_brown@pol.com
>  "What's going to happen?"   "Something wonderful..."   -- '2010'

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From potato@mo.net Tue Dec  5 19:46:59 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article <49m3ei$fed@woodstock.socs.uts.EDU.AU>, acair@itd.uts.edu.au
(a.air-student-com-ghostgum-93090658) wrote:

> George Graves (gmgraves@aimnet.com) wrote:
> : On the otherhand, dumbass, the Romans didn't take over a Rome which
> : was already built and functioning perfectly, and then screw it up
> : completely in a year's time.
> 
> Functioning perfectly?  You stupid bastard... if you call what was
> going on there "perfect" (and I *know* what was happening there - 
> I have family there) then you have a lot to learn about perfection.
> 
> South Africa is NOW working better... without the blatant police
> killings... give it time, and it will be ok.  And I second the
> suggestion that you most likely know nothing about South Africa.
> 
> 
South Africa is now working better? Woweee! I can't wait to emigrate.
Where's the boat? How come you aren't there? Like it here better, I bet.
Right? 

That's what I thought. Maybe you should think before you scribble.

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From potato@mo.net Wed Dec  6 08:18:05 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article , paul@mustang.mv.com (Paul Whitehouse) wrote:

> In article , potato@mo.net. 
> says...
> >
> >
> >That's the point. It takes brains.
> >
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>    So how'd you get a degree? Or are they still handing them out at Jerry 
> Falwell's Moron University to the first 500 drooling, goose-stepping 
> simpletons who sieg heil (or is that "seek help"?) their way through the 
> doors?
>                                                            Byte me.

I got my degrees the hard way. I worked for them. I did not have
affirmative action as an option. I was white. Always have been. Proud to
be. Enjoying it. Like it much. Wow. Awesome.

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From potato@mo.net Wed Dec  6 08:18:06 PST 1995
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In article <30be9148.1568163@news.aloha.net>, mo-o@maui.net (confused) wrote:

> Pete Lienemann  wrote:
> 
> >Interesting Frank.  I've seen a lot of bananas too.  All them were 
> >yellow.  But before I would come to the conclusion that all bananas 
> >were yellow, I'd taste a purple one first.

> In Hawaii you can find bananas and plantains in just about every color
> but blue (and there may be a blue) and shapes that are long and
> slender to round like a ball. We even have a fruit here that is yellow
> and star shaped, with a flavor like apple/pear juice.

I recently read about a green cat. Do you think that it got that way by
eating a purple banana?

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From potato@mo.net Wed Dec  6 08:18:07 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article <49sggq$ofr@calvino.alaska.net>, andrew@alaska.net (A.J. Rawls)
wrote:

> potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner) wrote:
> 
> 
> >Wrong. IQ is the predictor for college and high school capabilities
> >measured in predictable cumulative and general area grade points. I know.
> >I'm an educator.
> 
> Then, why do older people returning to school tend to better than
> younger people with higher IQs?
> 
Because there is an old chinese saying: Young people are young and dumb
and full of cum.

I hope that this clears up your inquiry and that your are enlightened by
my answer, grasshopper.

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From potato@mo.net Wed Dec  6 09:08:29 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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Subject: White Territorial Land Grab
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I grew up in a redneck town. Nine years of university, and I still salute
the trailer trash concept of white humanity. I believe in "the other side
of the tracks" and that there are sections of a town, no matter how big,
where good people just don't go without fear of loss of life and limb. I
feel that anyone who forces people from that side of the tracks into my
face has violated my civil liberties. Not that anyone cares. Obviously,
the poor whites like myself who barely live middle class lives are
expendable. A part of the program is to rip our neighborhoods out from
under us, humiliate our feelings of well being, destroy our community
feelings, and make off like bandits with the residential goodies at fire
sale prices. Once they board up the neighborhood and finish it off, they
look for the next place to level. If it ever led to integration, it might
not be so bad. For one thing, the destruction would be over. Only one or
two neighborhoods would be involved in the advancing urban terrorism. But
it is endless. Destroy one middle class area, then move on. Grab it. Take
it. Wreck it. Move on to the next. We hope it will end someday. But it
doesn't, and never has, and never will. It simply wrecks the lives of the
displaceable whites only to develop another underfunded newly grabbed
neighborhood for the blacks which rapidly deteriorate and is traded in on
another kill in a newer white area. The blacks are scooping up territory
using integration and civil rights and federal monies as the legal stick
to do so, and the whites are getting had and are never compensated for
their financial and emotional losses. This leaves us bitter and enraged.

I hope this answers your question.

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From potato@mo.net Wed Dec  6 17:48:48 PST 1995
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In article <49vbkj$n70@larry.cc.emory.edu>, libwca@larry.cc.emory.edu
(william c anderson) wrote:

> Frank Weltner (potato@mo.net) wrote:
> 
> : However, Icelanders do not have a large number of children per family, and
> : they are married. Blacks in America aren't married. 
> 
> Frank, does it bother you to be as stupid as you are?  Do you lie awake
> nights worrying about it, or does your level of stupidity preclude any
> knowledge of said stupidity?
> 
> I'm serious, here.  I'd really like to know.  I almost never get to 
> chat with really stupid people, and it fascinates me.
> 
> All Icelanders are married.  No American Blacks are married.  Wow.  It
> boggles the ol' noggin, y'know?
> 
> Bill

I can't help you, Bill. I'm too busy being stupid.

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec  7 00:32:47 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article , anakin@pinc.com
(Rajiv K. Gandhi) wrote:

> In article <49o9f1$26e0@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>, speedy5@ibm.net (KT) wrote:
> 
> > The Whites learned from the conflicts cause they had the IQ.
> 
> Which explains why there were no World Wars (he said with a LIBERAL dose
> sarcasm.)
> 
Well, to have a world war, you must have the intelligence to have a world
view. You must also have access to 3x5 index cards in order to
coordination millions of weapons, bunks, shells, men, rations, checks,
etc. Without the 3x5 index card we could not have had world war two,
macey's department store, or sears catalogs. (Enquiring minds want to
know.)

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec  7 08:26:06 PST 1995
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In article <49vmdj$b2v@grivel.une.edu.au>, ibokor@metz.une.edu.au (ibokor)
wrote:

> Mark Staloff (staloff@scws31.harvard.edu) wrote:
> : 
> : The Moors invaded Spain in 700 AD and declined from there, while the 
> : Christian Kingdoms to the north regrouped and began to recover territory 
> : not long afterward.  
> 
God punished them.

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec  7 08:26:06 PST 1995
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> In the 17th century (and beyond), when European sailors first started 
> washing up on the shores of Japan,  they were regarded as uncultured and 
> dim-witted because of their ignorance towards Japanese culture, 
> tradition and language.  Also,  they were regarded as barbaric because 
> they were filthy people.
> 
> steffanie carlosa

After awhile, you get used to German women's unshaven legs and underarms.
It's kinky only until you've slept with it. "Filthy is what filthy does."

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec  7 08:26:07 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article <4a11ik$6a7@decaxp.harvard.edu>, staloff@scws31.harvard.edu
(Mark Staloff) wrote:

> Frank Weltner (potato@mo.net) wrote:
> 
> : Maybe a nice emetic might still make the day really good for you!
> 
> That's it.  You're back on my shit list.
> 
> Mark

I'm just talking to God on the Big White Telephone....

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec  7 08:26:08 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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Subject: Re: Black Family Values
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> >
> 
> Finally, the tone of your posts makes that "kindler, gentler" tag an
> illustration of hypocrisy, not to mention an insult to President Bush.
> 
> Bruce Smith (starcons@ixnetcom.com)
> Creator of the "Bootstrapper's Guide to Your First Job and Beyond"
> seminar training kit


Well, how about "a thousand point of light," meaning my potato eyes....
Besides, Barbara Bush likes her potatoes.

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec  7 08:26:09 PST 1995
Article: 15281 of alt.revisionism
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article <49vbkj$n70@larry.cc.emory.edu>, libwca@larry.cc.emory.edu
(william c anderson) wrote:

> Frank Weltner (potato@mo.net) wrote:
> 
> : However, Icelanders do not have a large number of children per family, and
> : they are married. Blacks in America aren't married. 
> 
> Frank, does it bother you to be as stupid as you are?  Do you lie awake
> nights worrying about it, or does your level of stupidity preclude any
> knowledge of said stupidity?
> 
> Bill

Well, Bill, actually I sometimes shake with awe at my stupidity. It makes
my lil skinhead glow beyond compare. Don't look too closely at it, though,
or it will turn you to stone....

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec  7 08:26:10 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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>                     For certain, this "couch potato" has no 
>                     "eyes."
> 
>                     DCI

I just bumped into the fucking wall. My eyes aren't there. Where did I put them?

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec  7 08:26:11 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article <49uptg$ml0@decaxp.harvard.edu>, staloff@scws31.harvard.edu
(Mark Staloff) wrote:

> Frank Weltner (potato@mo.net) wrote:
> 
> : Let's see. Huh. He got the test from Teddy Kennedy. Right?
> 
> Teddy Kennedy passed Harvard with C's, so he has an IQ of at least 123.  I 
> think you should listen to what he has to say, considering he's evidently 
> quite intelligent.
> 
> Mark
> Knew Expos would come in handy

The last time I met with Teddy Kennedy, I had to wear a snorkel tube.

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec  7 08:26:12 PST 1995
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In article <49vcop$s8a@larry.cc.emory.edu>, libwca@larry.cc.emory.edu
(william c anderson) wrote:

> Frank Weltner (potato@mo.net) wrote:
> : Just in case you forgot, here is your worst nightmare again:
> 
> 
> :         ASCII Bell Curve Showing Distribution of White & Black IQ
> 
> 
> 
> Frank, the two dozen posts directly in front of this repost demolished
> your pretty little chart fairly completely.  Isn't it embarassing to
> you to repost something that's already been shown to demonstrate that
> you have the brains of a jellyfish?  If not, please remember that it's
> embarassing to the rest of us to watch, and try to keep your mental
> insufficiency private, okay?
> 
> Bill

Well, I would expect a Wuss Head like you to feel that way, Bill.
Nonetheless, I remain proud, potent, intelligent beyond compare, and
ballsie.

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec  7 08:26:13 PST 1995
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In article <4a065p$11m@decaxp.harvard.edu>, staloff@scws31.harvard.edu
(Mark Staloff) wrote:

> Timothy N French (frenchtn@wfu.edu) wrote:
> : >
> : Ted Kennedy, Harvard, C average, IQ of 123.  That is the stupidest 
> : correlation yet.  While the SAT average at Harvard may give some insight 
> : to a correlate of his IQ, Ted Kennedy was never the standard applicant, 
> : so more than likely the average SAT of a Harvard kid has very little to 
> : do with his actual SAT score.  Moreover, his grade point average can 
> : provide no insight into his IQ.  AND, if you knew anything about college 
> : admissions and statistics, you would know that each college or unversity 
> : that publishes their SAT average, has a unique way of computing it.  (If 
> : you think that *all* colleges and Universities take every kids score and 
> : compute and average you are a fool.)  THEREFORE, there is nothing that 
> : can be learned from average SAT scores to IQ correlates--except how 
> : ignorant (or intentionally manipulative) users of such statistics can be. 
> 
> I wonder what the correlation between IQ and sarcasm sensibility is.
> 
> Mark

The comparison is very loose like a dick dipping into an over stretched
pussy. In fact, it's alot like lowering a telephone pole into the Grand
Canyon. Every now and then it touches the side. But only if you try hard.

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec  7 08:26:13 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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> > >>Think what you want. I doubt Jesus was jewish.
> > >
> > >Read your bible.  The bible says that he was born in Bethlehem in Judea.
> > >It also says that he had a bris.  And that he spent bunches and bunches
> > >of time in the temple.  His coming, again according to the gospels,
> > >fulfilled all sorts of Jewish prophesies.  Pilate clearly thought he was
> > >a Jew -- he was crucified under an inscription reading "King of the
> > >Jews", again according to the gospels.
> > >
> > >Why do you think he *wasn't* jewish?
> > >
> > >                                                        Rachel
> > 
> > Jesus might have been a bit of a goof but he was not jewish. Many things in
> > the bible don't make sense. And this is one of them. You see, Jesus was only
> > *desceised* as a jew.
> 
Well, he was probably Jewish. However, the Bible makes a big deal out of
pointing out that Jesus was a Nazarene (means "extremely dispised person"
as well as the name of a town), and he was also an Israelite from up North
rather than a Jew (from Judah). Obviously, we was a practicing Jew, but
with a far different flavor, much like that of John the Baptist, his
predecessor who was stirring up a lot of trouble for the secular and
temple authorities, a messy business which caused him to lose his head.

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec  7 08:26:14 PST 1995
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> ### How do you reconcile the fact that the building of the pyramids at
> Giza and the building of the pyramids at Teotihuacan are events seperated
> by more than three thousand years? The Giza Pyramids were built about
> 2500 BCE and the Mexican pyramids were built between 800A.D. and about
> 1500 A.D.?  
> 
> George Graves

The Timex didn't keep on ticking?

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec  7 08:26:15 PST 1995
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> > >>Read your bible.  The bible says that he was born in Bethlehem in Judea.
> > >>It also says that he had a bris.  And that he spent bunches and bunches
> > >>of time in the temple.  His coming, again according to the gospels,
> > >>fulfilled all sorts of Jewish prophesies.  Pilate clearly thought he was
> > >>a Jew -- he was crucified under an inscription reading "King of the
> > >>Jews", again according to the gospels.

The thing that has alway bothered me about Pontius Pilate (Pontius
Pilatus) is that it is a made up name. It means "pilot of the sea." Also,
the word  "pontius" is very close to the latinate for "pope" or "father",
pontif comes from it, a reference to paternis, vater, etc. Was this a real
person, or a religious allegorical metaphor? If we see the pontius or
ocean as that upon which Christ walks when on the Sea of Gallilee, a
miracle in which he overcomes death, mimicks the crossing of the Red Sea
by walking on the top of the sea rather than "within" it as did the
Israelites crossing the Rea Sea and the Jordan River. Jesus was baptised
(full immersion) and, as a result is seen skimming the surface, miraculous
never going under. Going under the water is a sign of dying. By staying on
top, he has overcome death symbolically. Again, the  Pontius Pilate
allegory, the pilot of seas condemning Christ who then skims off the
crucifixion and arises from the dead.

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec  7 08:26:16 PST 1995
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> Don't get discouraged though, Frank.  You've done well for a potato.
> Rest, now.
> 
> Bill

                               Zzzzzzzzzzz.

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec  7 08:55:43 PST 1995
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INVESTMENT IN SLAVES HELPED THEM TO SURVIVE

Thomas Sowell's_Markets and Minorities_ mentions an incident described in
one of the classic antebellum accounts by a foreigner where the black
slave is at the top of the ramp, throwing down bales of cotton, and a free
white person (a "Paddy") is catching them at the bottom, because if the
free person breaks his back, it's no loss to the employer; if a slave
breaks his back, the master has a useless investment that he must support
for life.

As you can see, white slave owners would protect their slaves from injury,
because lifetime servitude possessed a monetary value. Indentured white
servants could only be utilized for 3-7 years usually, so they were given
the worst jobs. Why don't we hear about this? Why do blacks whine so much,
and whites who were indentured servants, sometimes sent to the bottoms of
mines to perish or become ill do not. 

I would presume that there is something here that bespeaks of a difference
in perceptions about pain, historical unfairness, and danger between the
two races. For some reason, blacks have fed off of their slavery hysteria
as though they are the only people in the world to have been worked hard.
In reality, auto workers are worked harder than cotton pickers who worked
hard only during the harvest and planting times, and had little to do in
between. Auto workers, both white and black are worked 12-16 hours per day
week after week, causing illness.

This may provide us with some perspective and may help to tone down the
gravity and louness of black feelings of having been used worse than
anyone else. This may not be true. Not that their plight was not something
we should not remember, just that we should remember it in perspective.

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec  7 08:55:44 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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Subject: Re: Love me or hate me...
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In article <49qdi0$nkq@limestone.kosone.com>, Rick Jones wrote:

> >   speedy5@ibm.net (KT) writes:
> 
> >  How the fuck can you make such a stupid statement as they "were remarkably
> >  analogous". This is some of the worst retarded bullshit I've ever heard a
> >  nigger-lover tell anyone. 
> >  
> >  Europe has never ever been as primitive and barbaric as they were - and 
> >  are - in Africa. Anyone with a bit of sense knows that.
> 
> Uh huh.  Your knowledge of history is pretty poor, apparently.  Or perhaps
> you're telling us that northern Europeans never went through the Stone
> Age?  Did they just jump from monkeys to using iron tools?  

Actually, they raped a few white women, and THEN jumped around trying to
evolve to the monkey level. That way they'd quit.

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From potato@mo.net. Thu Dec  7 17:27:03 PST 1995
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> Don't get discouraged though, Frank.  You've done well for a potato.
> Rest, now.
> 
> Bill

                               Zzzzzzzzzzz.

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec  7 21:30:33 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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Jesse Jackson:  I always feel better when I am walking alone at night,
and, if I hear someone following me, I turn around and see it's a white
man. 

(Unless, he's wearing old sheets, of course.)

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec  7 21:30:34 PST 1995
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In article <49ucjq$kcm@decaxp.harvard.edu>, slking@scws31.harvard.edu
(Stewart King) wrote:

> Whatever you ZOG scientists did to that potato this time sure worked.  
> Holy fuck, this was sensible.
> 
This is not worth responding on.

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From potato@mo.net Fri Dec  8 07:06:41 PST 1995
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There was a Polish Statistician who was worried about the extremely high
probability of there being a bomb on an airplane. After doing some research,
he found out that the probability of there being a TWO bombs on the same flight
was much, much lower. So now, whenever he goes on an airplane, he carries a
bomb with him.

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From potato@mo.net Fri Dec  8 07:06:41 PST 1995
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I love to go down to the schoolyard and watch all the little children jump
up and down and run around yelling and screaming...They don't know I'm
only using blanks.

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From potato@mo.net Fri Dec  8 09:51:17 PST 1995
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In article , paul@mustang.mv.com (Paul Whitehouse) wrote:

> In article , potato@mo.net. 
> says...
> >
> >In article <49i0ta$6eb@curly.cc.emory.edu>, libwca@curly.cc.emory.edu
> >(william c anderson) wrote:
> >
> >> Frank Weltner (potato@mo.net) wrote:
> >> 
> >> : I see why. Because you need to get yourself some fucking brains, nigger
> >> : boy! This is exactly why most black people don't try this type of thing 
> at
> >> : home, unless they're passing for white! Well, at least you tried. Smoke
> >> : your crack with pride, son. And get some sleep. Tomorrow is another day
> >> : for whites like me to step on your head while you fuck our mothers.
> >> 
> >> The high level of discourse exhibited here by Frank Weltner certainly
> >> does credit to the Noble Race of Aryan Supermen.
> >> 
> >> Not.  If this is the best you can do, Frank, it's easy to understand
> >> why the public at large views you and your White Power buddies as
> >> a bunch of mouth-breathing, knuckledragging lower simians.  Try 
> >> responding to substantive points with rational arguments, rather than
> >> cheap invective, and you might get somewhere.
> >> 
> >> I doubt it, though.
> >> 
> >> Bill
> >
> >My humble apologies. In the future, I shall attempt to express myself with
> >the same lucidness of St. Augustine in order to insure that my words are
> >worthy of the blessings of the Holy See. Thank you so much for pointing
> >out my deficiencies concerning this erstwhile post. In this way,
> >perfection of soul and focus shall be served for the overwhelming service
> >of mankind. Meanwhile, for those who are not scholars, blacks shall
> >continue to shoot up dope, reproduce themselves without marriage, and
> >leave their children fatherless. Due to these uncertain practices, white
> >people will be enjoined to building prisons for these little buggers.
> >
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> 
>    Frank, are you trying to tell me that no white person shoots up dope? 
> Okay, how about the fact that a majority of people on welfare are white 
> women, who have been forced onto welfare from their white husbands leaving 
> their family fatherless and penniless while he buys himself a new Camaro? Or 
> what about the fact that America's prison population - as reflective of 
> american society - is still predominantly white? I realize these are facts 
> you and your wp freinds do not wish to face, but denying them will not make 
> them any less true. Get a grip, Goober.
>                                                             Byte me.

But what does this have to do with the inordinate number of blacks per
capita who are on welfare versus the low per capita of whites? Nothing.
The vast numbers groupwise/percentile-group-wise are by far the blacks.
Its more than 6-to-1 on a per capita comparison--6 blacks to each 1 white
when entire numbers in each group are considered.

I hope that this exposition of learning and statistical knowledge will fit
into the academic framework of our erstwhile discussion requirements. I
remain your humble servant....
>

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From potato@mo.net Fri Dec  8 14:06:48 PST 1995
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In article <30bf996b.334273@news.aloha.net>, mo-o@maui.net (mo-o) wrote:

> potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner) wrote:
> 
> >I'm an educator.
> >
> >Sorry.
> For the system that would allow you to deal with young minds? I agree,
> it is sorry.

Ad hominum rhetoric against Frank Weltner is forbidden in a civilized internet.

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From potato@mo.net Fri Dec  8 14:06:49 PST 1995
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In article <49tf6e$fkh@decaxp.harvard.edu>, slking@scws31.harvard.edu
(Stewart King) wrote:

> Frank Weltner (potato@mo.net) wrote:
> 
> : Nice rhetorical comback and point, Stewart. Ten points.
> 
> 
> Now I'm nervous.
> 
> 
> 
> -Stewart
> checking the ceiling for lurking potatoes.

Ha. Ha. Ten bonus points! Very funny.

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec  9 16:53:59 PST 1995
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>         I'm very glad my children aren't being educated in Missouri.
> 
>         I wonder if this potato person's superiors know what he does in 
> his off time.  Er....time away from "educating".  (He's always off.)

              Actually, Mother Superior Potato Head likes my work.

                      And we are a member of the NAACP

        The National Association for the Advancement of Couch Potatoes

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec  9 16:54:00 PST 1995
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> >>I'm an educator.
> >
> It makes you wonder just how many of our children are being
> educationally sabotaged by bigots like Weltner. His presence in
> s.c.a.a. is a good reminder of how far we have to go, and the nature of
> the enemy.
> G.

                     Kids just love The Couch Potato.

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec  9 17:32:36 PST 1995
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>         I'm very glad my children aren't being educated in Missouri.
> 
>         I wonder if this potato person's superiors know what he does in 
> his off time.  Er....time away from "educating".  (He's always off.)

              Actually, Mother Superior Potato Head likes my work.

                      And we are a member of the NAACP

        The National Association for the Advancement of Couch Potatoes

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec  9 17:32:37 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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>This a textbook example of how NOT to understand IQ numbers. First, as a matter
> of logic, if "it takes" then that is a MINIMUM number, and clearly that is 
> wrong. But I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you simply
> dont understand English, and meant something like "the average A student
> has an IQ of 144". Personally I doubt very much that that is true. 144 is
> pretty rare. But no matter. The point is that the VARIANCE is as important
> here as the average. The variance is very wide. You can get an A with
> an IQ of 100 or a D with an IQ of 160. I have a friend with an IQ over 160
> who did pass with a D -- and he had to change to an easier degree at the last
> minute to even graduate.
> 
> Measures like IQ are really only meaningful with very large samples. Applied
> to individuals it is iffy.
> -- 
> Ken Braithwaite        khbraith@mercator.uwaterloo.ca
> If black and white combine and blend in a thousand shades of gray
> Are there then no black and white? -- Alexander Pope



       Let me simplify this discussion for you Ken. Blacks are dumb.

                              That says it all.

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec  9 17:32:38 PST 1995
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> As far as raw IQ goes, consider this.  Madonna has an IQ of 140, John F. 
> Kennedy, the fastest reader and most powerful memory in recorded 
> presidential history had an IQ of 109.  Who would you want to be 
> President?  Intelligence is adaptation.  IQ is an interesting test score! 
> 
> Timothy  



                      I always said Kennedy was an idiot.

                        Therefore, this is nothing new.

             Except that black mean average IQ's are 83 points.

      Just how dumb does that make them?  I'll tell you. VERY DUMB INDEED!

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec  9 17:32:39 PST 1995
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> >Pete, I shit on Bell Northern Research.
> 
> Ignore the potato.  
> 
> At any rate, the SAT is an IQ test of sorts.  Kind of depends on what 
> you think of IQ tests.  But to answer your question (sorry I haven't 
> been reading for the previous 20 posts) yes I do have a copy of The Bell 
> Curve.  I did my thesis on it.  You are very right.  H&M did an awful 
> job of following the scientific menthod.  They just sparked a lot of 
> fools.
> 
> Timothy

Ever notice how liberals bad mouth those with new scientific approaches?
The Bell Curve gets in the way of their fantasies, and, oh!, we just can't
have that! So, we'll try to act like that person is a fool. (Doesn't
matter that negroes still can't be successful no matter where you bus
them, where you house them, how much you feed them, how many schools you
destroy with their noisy presence, how many have babies out of wedlock,
how many have babies within wedlock. No, that doesn't matter. What matters
is keeping up the illusion that they are equal when they aren't. Because
they are dumb. Even if it means lying.)

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec  9 17:32:40 PST 1995
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In article ,
loyal-African@shingira.demon.co.uk wrote:

> In article , 
>  writes:
> >
> > > In article ,
 
> > > writes:
> > > 
> > > > Pete, I shit on Bell Northern Research.
> > > 
> > > Frank, your bowel habits have nothing to do with the ASCII
Representation of 
> the 
> > > so-called bell curvature.
> > > 
> > 
> 
> 
> You are no brother of mine.

Really? And I thought all along that my father fucked your mother.

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec  9 17:32:40 PST 1995
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> >>I'm an educator.
> >
> It makes you wonder just how many of our children are being
> educationally sabotaged by bigots like Weltner. His presence in
> s.c.a.a. is a good reminder of how far we have to go, and the nature of
> the enemy.
> G.

                     Kids just love The Couch Potato.

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec  9 17:32:41 PST 1995
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In article <4a6sdn$8k6@decaxp.harvard.edu>, staloff@scws31.harvard.edu
(Mark Staloff) wrote:

> Frank Weltner (potato@mo.net) wrote:
> 
> : The comparison is very loose like a dick dipping into an over stretched
> : pussy. In fact, it's alot like lowering a telephone pole into the Grand
> : Canyon. Every now and then it touches the side. But only if you try hard.
> 
> Does your wife know that you post this crap, Frank?
> 
> Mark

I keep her in a cage. She sceams at night. But the basement has been sound
proofed, so it doesn't do her any good. I just laugh and play with
bandwidth.

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec  9 17:32:42 PST 1995
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In article <4a8huo$6tq@test24-227.rz.uni-hohenheim.de>, Elias Halldor
Agustsson  wrote:

> potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner) wrote:
> 
> >The last time I met with Teddy Kennedy, I had to wear a snorkel tube.
> 
> Yes, if I will ever have the misfortune of having to grant you an 
> appointment, I shall insist that you wear one, too.
> 
>                                            
> © Elias Halldor Agustsson    
> © mailto:eha@itn.is         
> © URL: http://www.itn.is/~eha  (or http://www.nyherji.is/~eha )


My dearest Elias:

Since you live in Iceland, Elias, can I assume that you are frigid half of
the year? 

Oh. How crudely rude. Even for a potato head. Oooooh! Well, I just never!

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec  9 17:32:43 PST 1995
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What do Africans and Haitians use for laptops? 

Loin cloths.



(But they can't read them.)

(What else could go wrong?)

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec  9 17:53:15 PST 1995
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> You conveniently left out the third part: "No American Blacks are married."
> 
> That means none. Zip. Zilch. Not one single American Black in a legally
> sanctioned monogamous relationship. This is what Frank Weltner, educator,
> claims as absolute truth.
> 
> What, exactly, is open to misinterpretation about that sentence? And
> where, exactly, is Weltner's evidence to support that statement?
> 
> JGB
> 
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown                                   jeff_brown@pol.com
>  "What's going to happen?"   "Something wonderful..."   -- '2010'
> *Mailed replies to Usenet posts will not be considered confidential.*


    Jeffrey. When did your mother tell you that you were a human being? 

                 It was a damnable and unnecessary non-truth. 

               But I forgive her. After all, she is your mother.

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec  9 17:53:16 PST 1995
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In article <4a4ica$ot5@decaxp.harvard.edu>, slking@scws34.harvard.edu
(Stewart King) wrote:

> Frank Weltner (potato@mo.net) wrote:
> : In article <49ucjq$kcm@decaxp.harvard.edu>, slking@scws31.harvard.edu
> : (Stewart King) wrote:
> 
> : > Whatever you ZOG scientists did to that potato this time sure worked.  
> : > Holy fuck, this was sensible.
> : > 
> : This is not worth responding on.
> 
> It's a compliment, you dolt.



> 
                                 Oh. Oh. Oh.

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec  9 17:53:17 PST 1995
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> Hsitory books have shown that Hong Kong is a colony.  
> 
> Hong Kong will have to pick up the pieces after the Brits leave.
> 
> Where is there more land for humans to prosper in:  Hong Kong or Africa?
> -- 


Actually, Hong Kong was a misspelling of Long Dong. 

This story has been used by Minister Farrakhan as a major argument for
early African seafaring. According to the blessed minister, Africans
discovered China and rested in Hong Kong harbor. 

The chinese, using "h" and "k" as substitutes for "l" and "d", called the
place Hong Kong, mispronouncing "long dong" the two words which they used
to refer to the reclining foreheaded Africans with long dongs who were
actually looking for white women to rape. 

The chinese, according to Farrakhan, told them to move on. 

This was just one more example of the world's hatred of blacks, according
to the minister.

I thought you would want to know.....

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec  9 17:53:17 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article <4a1esl$k3@daryl.scsn.net>, dfhs2@ns2.scsn.net wrote:

> Whoever wrote this is as sick as those involved in this debate. 
Discrimination is not some sort 
> of joke and it's not funny.  You reap what you sow.

"You reap what you sow" is a misunderstood interpretation of that old
black saying in central Georgia's Gulah Islands as "You snort dat snow,"
referring to cocaine and a straw inserted into dee black nostril.

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec  9 17:53:18 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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Subject: Re: Evidence FOR Racial Equality??
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In article <4a5o8q$2u4@klein.delphi.com>, STEPH SCHMITZ
 wrote:

> forman@netcom.com (frank forman) wrote:
> >No attacks on racists, please. If you have positive evidence *FOR*
>racial equality, please share it with us.
> >
> >Frank
> 
> Positive evidence for racial equality?  Is it not a basic human right to 
> be treated as another's equal?


Yes. I agree. It is a basic human right to be "treated" as another's equal
under the laws of the land.

However, it is not a basic human right to be promoted to a top position
when he is stupid or unqualified just because of his skin color. 

It is a right only to be treated as another's equal in the eyes of the
law. No one should be unfairly villified on account of his skin color or
religion. Nor should he be unfairly uplifted because of it. Although it
seems that whites are unfairly uplifted in the eyes of black people, it is
really only "appearance" and not what it is. Whites are more intelligent
and more talented on average, so they succeed in larger numbers per capita
and per groupita.

However, those blacks who are intelligent, hard working, energetic, and
committed to success, who are just as smart and educated as whites based
on true talents, are as welcome as whites anywhere. They are respected by
whites, too. What whites and blacks who are middle class can't stand are
low class blacks and whites who are part of a criminal, drug pushing
sub-culture who value ignorance, street talk, and incivility as proofs of
"belonging to the hoods."

What I can't understand is why street blacks consider blacks who are
successful in white institutions such as corporations as black Oreos, sell
outs, white niggers, and boot lickers. This is offensive to successful
blacks, unwarranted, and makes the "nigger element" look very, very
niggery.

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec  9 17:53:19 PST 1995
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In article <4a75vn$iif@curly.cc.emory.edu>, libwca@curly.cc.emory.edu
(william c anderson) wrote:

> Steffanie (Yeti@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
> : In  lsinger@netcom.com (Lane Singer) 
> : writes: 
> : > race has no biological definition. 
> 
> : According to my sociology textbook,  this is not true.  The TERM race is 
> : meaningless in a biological sense because there is no such thing as a 
> : pure race.
> : Race is a social classification system based on distinguishing 
> : characteristics.  How these characteristics came to be is biology, ie. 
> : genetic material,adaptation, etc.
> 
> In other words, "race has no biological definition."  Thanks.
> 
> Bill

As though some people are black and some are white by "chance" and not by
inheritance. Nice. Very smart. Very smart, indeed.

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec  9 17:53:20 PST 1995
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> Of course, melanin is not the only different characteristic of 
> different races.  What genes control hair?  Noses?  
> Body shape?  Lips?  Bone density?  Muscle density?  etc...
> 
I'm not sure of these genes.

But the jeans that control sexual attraction are definitely "Bugle Boy" Jeans.

On this, we can all agree.

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec  9 17:53:21 PST 1995
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"Differences in academic achievement are similiar.  The strongest 
predictor of whether or not an individual will go to college is whether 
or not their parents went.  Almost 96%."
>    
> Timothy

Well, Timothy, it is also almost 96% predictive that black parents will
give birth to black children and 96% predictive that white parents will
give birth to white children.

So, you see, Timothy, the "reason" an individual will go to college or be
black or be white is "inheritance" after all. Think about it awhile. Work
with it.

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec  9 17:53:22 PST 1995
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> : No attacks on racists, please. If you have positive evidence *FOR* racial 
> : equality, please share it with us.

Let see. Blacks and whites both have toes. What do you think?

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec  9 18:07:18 PST 1995
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In article <4a04gj$n9s@daryl.scsn.net>, xyz@scsn.net (R.C. Richards) wrote:

> eraserhead@iglou.iglou.com (David Lynch) wrote:
> 
> >Marcus W. Marlow (marlow@scsn.net) wrote:
> 
> >:      David, may I suggest you take up a hobby of some sort?  Just a 
> >: suggestion.
> 
> >And what, pray tell, is wrong with my current hobby?
> 
> 
> only a lib would have to ask what is wrong with making a full time
> hobby out of being a JACKASS.
> 
> R.C. Richards, Racial Theorist
> 
> visit the new, kinder, gentler CLOC homepage: 
> 
> http://www.io.com/~rlogsdon/aryan-page/cloc

But, Blessed Reverend, don't be so hard on him. After all, didn't Samson
gain great power through ownership of the jaw of an ass? Not that it saved
him from blindness after his zaney trip to SuperCuts.....

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec  9 18:07:18 PST 1995
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Subject: Re: Two Questions for Jap Lovers
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In article <4a04q8$n9s@daryl.scsn.net>, xyz@scsn.net (R.C. Richards) wrote:

> folks:
> 
> there's been some question about the japanese and whether or not they
> have contributed as much to the world as white people.  i'll leave
> that question aside for now and ask these two questions:
> 
> if the japs are so great, then why do they wear western suits and ties
> and western clothes and why ain't we wearing jap clothes?
> 
> and why is english taught in jap high schools but jap jibberish ain't
> taught in amerikan high schools?
> 
> R.C. Richards, Racial Theorist
> 
> visit the new, kinder, gentler CLOC homepage: 
> 
> http://www.io.com/~rlogsdon/aryan-page/cloc

The problem with the Japs is that they have never had the right slant on things.

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec  9 18:07:19 PST 1995
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Subject: Re: Two Questions for Jap Lovers
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In article <4a734l$51q@limestone.kosone.com>, Rick Jones wrote:

> >   xyz@scsn.net (R.C. Richards) writes:
> 
> >  and why is english taught in jap high schools but jap jibberish ain't
> >  taught in amerikan high schools?
> 
> Apparently, you're in dire need of some of those English courses
> yourself.  Eaten any sushi lately?

No. I was too busy picking dingle berries from you ass at the zitts hospital....

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec  9 18:07:20 PST 1995
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> I think this is a very important question.  We all want to know.  Where is
> the source for your insight that there IS no "Japanese" society?  This has
> previously been kept from the world.

Well, remember the story about how Admiral Dewey bombarded Tokyo Harbor to
get Japan to open its door to trade? He discovered no one was home. So he
left. 

History of Japan. The first Japanese emerged from a transistor in the Sony
factory in 1963. Until then, only Mongols interspersed here and there. The
Islands were sad. 

Now, however, thanks to the Sony goddess, with replication processes
improved through the science of chips, cute little Japs with black hair
and brown eyes complete with micro-chips glued permanently up their asses
with Bonzai Glue Stick from Mitsubishi are rapidly driving out the Mongol
hordes and infesting the Islands of the Sun, investing in the Tokyo stock
market in an attempt to built a tenuous, thread-thin ladder to heaven.

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec  9 18:07:20 PST 1995
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Because there is no Japanese society, the national debt has been called
off as of Wednesday last.

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec  9 18:07:21 PST 1995
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White people are the greatest gift ever given to this world. Culture,
science, mathematics, space travel, condoms, self-defeating liberal
philosophies--all these things and MORE churn in the European mind. We
carry both our genious and our stupidity well. We therefore require no
outside influences either to evolve further or destroy ourselves. Gook
help is not required.

Europeans are capable of living our lives in a self-contained environment
without losing any probabilities for future growth or destruction. This
cannot be said of other societies, because they only contain the seeds of
destruction and NOT the seeds of intellectual and societal growth. 

Mistakes? Yes, we've made a few. 

But the nice thing about us is that everything we do is BIG. Nothing menial. 

That is why World War One and Two occurred. 

And to think. Without the 3x5 index card these vast movements of men and
materiel to the fronts would have been totally impossible and the wars
would, of necessity, have had to have been reduced vastly in size and
perspective. And then, there wouldn't be anything to use for film filler
on the History Channel, A&E, TLC, Discovery, PBS, David Wolper Presents,
Victory at Sea, Our Century, and Gilligan's Island.

Our world would be vastly different.

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec  9 18:07:22 PST 1995
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> 
> Perhaps one could say the same of a man who uses anecdotes about being
> threatened on the street by certain blacks to justify his hatred of all
> blacks.
> 
                    It only takes being killed once.

           Some of us learn quickly. Very quickly. And we live.

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec  9 18:07:23 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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I like to think of Negroes as ceiling fans without a forward button.
They're still sort of like ceiling fans.

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec  9 20:59:45 PST 1995
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I like to think of Negroes as ceiling fans without a forward button.
They're still sort of like ceiling fans.

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec  9 20:59:46 PST 1995
Article: 15585 of alt.revisionism
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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Subject: Re: ERNST ZUNDEL --- CHARGED!!!
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> Both cases which went before the supreme court held that although s.319(2)
> (public incitement of hatred) was contrary to section 2(b) of the Charter
> (right to free speech) it is in fact a reasonable limit within section 1
> of the Charter of Rights nd Freedoms. Therefore it is constitutional.

Sorry, Dr. Raghead. It wasn't Ernst Zundel who was charged. It was Mahatma
Ghandi. Oh, oh. Sorry. Now, what's ya' gonna' do? Calcutta won't swing
now!

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec  9 20:59:46 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article <4a8q6t$b5d@news3.cts.com>, brittell@cts.com (Daren Brittell) wrote:

> ncrccjc@ibm.net wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> >Is it possessible that C-FAR that bastion of free speech, originated by
former 
> >high school teacher Paul Fromm (now teaches adult ed) whose history of White 
> >power links is legendary, is sponsoring another event featuring a Heritage 
> >Front luminary? Yes indeed, it appears as though Steve Dumas(aka Steve
Baker) 
> >will be the keynote speaker at an upcoming C-FAR get-together. For those 
> >uninitiated, Mr. Dumas/Baker writes extensively for UPFRONT the propaganda 
> >sheet of Canada's notorious White Supremacist group the Heritage Front. Once 
> >again Mr. Fromm shows his true colours.
> 
>  :-O
> 
> He is concerned with the future of his race, Ohmigod!
> 
Yea! We can't allow this!

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec  9 20:59:47 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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> Now.  Prove to me that Murasaki was 1.) imitating an American or 2.) a
> ninja.
> 
> *Waiting.*
> Susannah R Mandel  *  smandel@fas.harvard.edu  *  (617) 493-2187
> ************************************************************************
> "My God!" ejaculated Phelps.

I don't have to. We have the atomic bomb and Japan doesn't.

 Kaboooooom!!!! End of question. End of answers. 

Ah! So! Velly guud! Ah, Amerikahn clever!

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec  9 20:59:48 PST 1995
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In article <4a531j$h3q@daryl.scsn.net>, xyz@scsn.net (Racial Theorist) wrote:

> smandel@course2.harvard.edu (Susannah Mandel) wrote:
> 
> >Frank Weltner (potato@mo.net) wrote:
> >: > 
> >: > : Shoddy thinking. Voltaire, Tesla, Marconi, Oppenheimer, Bell,
Edison--all
> >: > : Europeans, all brilliant, all chauvinists, all white, all
fabulous. Give
> >: > : me a Jap that isn't a poor imitation of an American and I'll give you a
> >: > : ninja.
> 
> >*pff pff pff*
> 
> >*the thinking machine goes on.*
> 
> >OK.  Murasaki Shikibu, author of The Tale Of Genji (generally considered
> >among the students of literary history to be The First Novel), in the
> >ninth century A.D.  (It was a very rich time in the literature of the
> >imperial courts of Japan.)
> >       (The ninth century A.D., for those of you not yet up on your
> >history, pre-dates _Robinson Crusoe_, _Tristram Shandy_, _The Canterbury
> >Tales_ and, uh, even  _Don Quixote._)
> 
> >There's one.
> 
> >Now.  Prove to me that Murasaki was 1.) imitating an American or 2.) a
> >ninja.
> 
> >*Waiting.*
> 
> frank don't have to prove nothing to you.  if the book is so great,
> why ain't we never heard of it?  have you even read it, or did you see
> something about it on tv?
> 
> 
> R.C. Richards, Racial Theorist
> 
> visit the new, kinder, gentler CLOC homepage: 
> 
> http://www.io.com/~rlogsdon/aryan-page/cloc

But I didn't write this!

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec  9 20:59:49 PST 1995
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> Frank, no matter how you express yourself your an ass, you already made that 
> clear, so stop polluting the airwaves with your filth. By the way what
is your 
> IQ? is it higher than a potato is it possibly on the same level as a turnip?
> 
> Not, probably more like a peanut, the kind that gets thrown to the monkeys at 
> the Zoo.
> 
> Yaron

Yaron. You are a waste of good bandwidth. Check under your monkey tail and
read your dastardly dingleberries correctly before you jump to positive
conclusions concerning your mental abilities.

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec  9 20:59:50 PST 1995
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> Ah, but it's not about skin colour or other minor biological traits, as 
> anybiologist or geneticist will tell you, there is no substantive difference 
> between the races, except for a few minor variations, determined by the local 
> environment.  Factors such as weather, etc. have such influence. 
>  
This is true. I've noticed that my wife produces black babies when it
rains, white babies when it snows, and asian babies when the sun is bright
yellow. I am happy to verify your opinions, sir.

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec  9 21:04:49 PST 1995
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In article , sgarza@csubak.edu
(Steve Garza) wrote:

> Well, it seems the racists are afraid that blacks and other minorities are
> going to take over the United States due to high birth rates.

Well, the one positive thing you might be able to say about high birth
rates among blacks is that each new birth dilutes the power of each black
person's vote. As a person, I mean.

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec  9 21:04:50 PST 1995
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> Why?  If someone is on death row because they shot ten people in cold
> blood, then why should they have a painless way out?  What difference does
> it make.  Personally I am for the guillotine since it is cheap, effective,
> quick, and always works.

If NASA built it, you would have to fix it.

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec  9 21:04:51 PST 1995
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In article <4a0oap$qg1@news1.deltanet.com>, neutron@deltanet.com wrote:

> The reason why there is such a discrepancy between 800K and 1.4 million 
> in attendance is that the Park Police failed to count the ones swinging 
> in the trees.......
> 
Besides the fact that the Constitution only counts each one as 3/5ths of a
person. And the Park Police swore to uphold the Big C.

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec  9 21:05:38 PST 1995
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In article , sgarza@csubak.edu
(Steve Garza) wrote:

> Well, it seems the racists are afraid that blacks and other minorities are
> going to take over the United States due to high birth rates.

Well, the one positive thing you might be able to say about high birth
rates among blacks is that each new birth dilutes the power of each black
person's vote. As a person, I mean.

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec  9 21:05:39 PST 1995
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> Why?  If someone is on death row because they shot ten people in cold
> blood, then why should they have a painless way out?  What difference does
> it make.  Personally I am for the guillotine since it is cheap, effective,
> quick, and always works.

If NASA built it, you would have to fix it.

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec  9 21:05:40 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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> * >Scenario #1:
> * 
> * >You go to a restaurant with about eight people of both sexes.  You join 
> * >one of the conversations at the table, which soon dies as its participants 
> * >move to other conversations.  You try talking to the people sitting next 
> * >to you, but after asking them their name and occupation the conversation 
> * >dies. 

Final Scenario:

Try this. You find a girl and you cum inside her. Then, you find another.
You cum inside her. Then, you find another. You cum inside her. Then, you
find another. You cum inside her. What do you have?

Life is a bitch.

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec  9 21:05:40 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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Subject: Re: If Whites are so superior...
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If you were so
> superior, how could the inferiors usurp the reigns ?

They can't, Dr. Raghead. That's why your posts have been automatically
stripped from bandwidth.

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec  9 21:05:41 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article <4a0oap$qg1@news1.deltanet.com>, neutron@deltanet.com wrote:

> The reason why there is such a discrepancy between 800K and 1.4 million 
> in attendance is that the Park Police failed to count the ones swinging 
> in the trees.......
> 
Besides the fact that the Constitution only counts each one as 3/5ths of a
person. And the Park Police swore to uphold the Big C.

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec  9 21:05:42 PST 1995
Article: 10219 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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Subject: Re: Les Griswold looks at Japan
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In article <49qe9b$nkq@limestone.kosone.com>, Rick Jones wrote:

> >   bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) writes:
> 
> >  >>  : > I'm not sure it can be solidly stated that the standard of
living in North America
> >  >>  : > is "head and shoulders" above Japan.  I'd rather live here
than there, but
> >  >>  : > mine is a biased opinion and there are some very good
arguments to be made
> >  >>  : > that Japan is a better place to live.  (Lower unemployment,
lower violent crime
> >  >>  : > rates, etc.)   Now, the Japanese were not white the last time
I checked.  So
> >  >>  : > it would appear, once again, that you're lying.
> 
> >  The point still stands, Foot-boy:  why are the nips copying US, and not us
> >  copying THEM?
> 
> Your original statement remains a lie.  

I have never told a lie in my white life.

You SPECIFICALLY stated that North
> American society stood head and shoulders above anything cooked up by 
> "Non-whites."  

We are the tallest people in the world as a group. Americans average
5'10". Japanese average 5'4".

This is clearly false, as evidenced by Japan.

Japan is a piece of shit spread on the end of the ocean.

  You have yet
> to address the central issue, which is that North America is NOT clearly
> "head and shoulders" above Japan, and Japan is most decidedly non-white.

I respect Japan. I especially like their innovative way of enslaving their
own women and turning them into whores who followed their army around the
pacific. I thought that demonstrated a "great" cultural leap. Definitely
surpasses anything europe came up with.

> And what are they copying, anyway?  Michael Jackson tapes?

No. They are copying the best in white science and technology, buying our
white congressmen, and screwing us over. However, they are so dumb, that
they can't really make money. They bought Rockefeller Center for $1
billion and sold it back for $500 million. Then, they spent $1.1 billion
for Pebble Beach Golf Course and sold it for $350 million. Yep. Them Jap's
is really fuckin' smart! 

Duh. Duh. Duh. Duh. 

In fact, they are so goddam dumb, they might even buy you. (Keep your
fingers crossed.)

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec  9 21:05:42 PST 1995
Article: 10222 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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Subject: Re: Must White Presidents Be Veterans? - 70 [1/1]
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Despite Abraham Lincoln's medical and social excuses for excusing
himself from combat duty he rose to become no less an accomplished
hero than George Washington who received his presidential honors, like
Eisenhower, after his war service. Lincoln went on to win a major
American military challenge.

Actually, Lincoln was a disaster. The war went on and on, because the
Union Commanders were inept and unable to commit themselves to the job at
hand. With vastly larger numbers and weapons, theny nonetheless allowed
the Southerners to set the place and agenda of the battles (until
Gettysburg and if Jeb Stuart hadn't been out messing around with the
cavalry, the South would have taken the hills and whipped the Union again
and then walked right into Philadelphia, New York, Boston, and then
Baltimore and Washington, burning them to the ground and the war would
have ended). Instead, it went on 5 years, killed 3 million soldiers from
combat and disease. The commanders (with the exception of Grant) let the
Southern Army get away even after they had beat it, so they had to beat it
again and again. They were idiots, and so was Lincoln. If you don't
consider a Civil War being the ultimate disaster, what else is close. We
un-elect President's for recessions; why not for splitting the country in
half and starting a bloody conflict. Jeez.

And this Clintscum. Give me a fucking break. I went to The Nam for that
little chickenshitted son of a bitch. You think I like him now? Not on
your little life, I don't. The trouble is, the Republicans won't nominate
Buchanan, their only winnable candidate.

Blessing, and peace be with you, my child.

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec  9 21:09:03 PST 1995
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In article <4a0oap$qg1@news1.deltanet.com>, neutron@deltanet.com wrote:

> The reason why there is such a discrepancy between 800K and 1.4 million 
> in attendance is that the Park Police failed to count the ones swinging 
> in the trees.......
> 
Besides the fact that the Constitution only counts each one as 3/5ths of a
person. And the Park Police swore to uphold the Big C.

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec 10 05:11:42 PST 1995
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In article <9512080035251192@equinox.org>, carlos.markham@equinox.org
(Carlos Markham) wrote:

>  >potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner) wrote:
> 
>  >[doesn't matter]
> 
>  >Frank, the laundry folks called.  Your white bed sheets are ready for
>  >your next cross burning.

"Swing Low, Sweet Charrriioootttt! Coming for to carrrrry me hoooommmmee!
"Swing low, Swett Charrriioootttt! Come down here and suck on my bone.....

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec 10 05:11:43 PST 1995
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Subject: Re: Why do Fascists Idoli
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In article <9512080035251193@equinox.org>, carlos.markham@equinox.org
(Carlos Markham) wrote:

>  -=> Quoting Mark Staloff to All <=-
> 
>  MS> From: staloff@scws31.harvard.edu (Mark Staloff)
>  MS> Subject: Re: Why do Fascists Idolize Criminal Hilter and loser NAZIs?
>  MS> 
>  MS> Mark Staloff (staloff@scws31.harvard.edu) wrote:
>  MS> 
>  MS> : I live in a dorm which is about 15% black (shut up, Stewart) so they
>  MS> live  : right down the hall, and we eat all my meals in the same dining
>  MS> hall.   
>  MS> Uh... yeah.  The only problem is that I can't keep those buggers away 
>  MS> from my food.
>  MS> 
>  MS> Mark
> 
^
You know, I believe there is a new cure for MS. Why don't you take it?

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec 10 05:11:44 PST 1995
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In article <4a8vit$lea@sparky.midwest.net>, willie@midwest.net (Little
Willie) wrote:

> >|Jesus is not the Messiah
> >
> >To satisfy the definition of "messiah", he would have to have
> >been victorious over the Romans.  Jesus may have lead a small
> >revolt.  The temple riot may have been it.
> >
> 
> Seems to me, that Christianity (and some barbarians) were instrumental in the
> fall of Rome.

They were instrumental in the fall of christianity, too. See "Condoms and
the Curia," Vaticano Papperii, Vol. 2, No. 1, 1470 a.d.

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec 10 05:11:45 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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Subject: Re: THOUGHTCRIME AVERTED - FOR THE TIME BEING
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In article <4a72vu$51q@limestone.kosone.com>, Rick Jones wrote:

> >   schwartz@infinet.com (Sara aka Perrrfect) writes:
> 
> >  First, get an education and take a course in reading comprehension.
> 
> Frank Weltner's problem isn't that he can't read.   Frank's problem is that
> he is obviously quite insane.

You mean I can get by with murder?

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec 10 21:52:34 PST 1995
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In article <4a8vit$lea@sparky.midwest.net>, willie@midwest.net (Little
Willie) wrote:

> >|Jesus is not the Messiah
> >
> >To satisfy the definition of "messiah", he would have to have
> >been victorious over the Romans.  Jesus may have lead a small
> >revolt.  The temple riot may have been it.
> >
> 
> Seems to me, that Christianity (and some barbarians) were instrumental in the
> fall of Rome.

They were instrumental in the fall of christianity, too. See "Condoms and
the Curia," Vaticano Papperii, Vol. 2, No. 1, 1470 a.d.

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From potato@mo.net Mon Dec 11 15:47:53 PST 1995
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        ASCII Bell Curve Showing Distribution of White & Black IQ
                       Page 279 of The Bell Curve
                 Ethnic Differences in Cognitive Ability


THE BELL CURVE DISTRIBUTION OF BLACK AND WHITE IQ LEVELS BASED ON THE
NATIONAL LONGITUDINAL SURVEY OF YOUTH AND THE ARMED FORCES TESTING SURVEY
(NLSY & AFTS) MEASURING IQ FOR MILLIONS OF PERSONS TESTED YEAR AFTER YEAR

    BLACKS FALL ON LEFT (LOW IQ)      WHITES ON RIGHT (HIGH IQ)


                                  w
                                white
                               whites.
                              whites wh
                             whites whit
                            whites whites 
                            whites whites. 
                           whites whites wh
BLACK MEAN AVERAGE         whites whites wh     WHITE MEAN
83 IQ IS BORDERLINE       whites whites whit    AVERAGE IQ
RETARDED                 whites whites whites   100-103
                       whites whites whites whi
                   blawhites whites whites whites 
                blacks blacks whites whites whites 
blacks blacks blacks blacks black blacks whites whites 
blacks blacks blacks blacks blacks blacks blacks whites 
__________________________________________________________
IQ   50   60   70   80   90  100  110  120 130 140  150 
                      /\       /\
     BLACK MEAN IQ IS 83        WHITE MEAN IQ IS 100-103

1/2 OF BLACKS HAVE 83 IQ OR LESS       1/2 OF WHITES HAVE 100-103 IQ OR LESS
70% OF BLACKS HAVE 100-103 IQ OR LESS  30% OF WHITES HAVE 83 IQ OR LESS
--------------------------------       -------------------------------------
1/2 OF BLACKS HAVE 83 IQ OR MORE       1/2 OF WHITES HAVE 100-103 IQ OR MORE
30% OF BLACKS HAVE 100-103 IQ OR MORE  70% OF WHITES HAVE 83 IQ OR MORE

EACH 10% OF BLACKS =  4 MILLION PERSONS AND 1 MILLION ADULT BLACKS
EACH 10% OF WHITES = 20 MILLION PERSONS AND 9 MILLION ADULT WHITES
(The adult group are persons above 18 years of age)

Smarties
 3 million adult blacks are above 100 IQ
63 million adult whites are above 100 IQ

Dummies
 7 million adult blacks are below 100 IQ
63 million adult whites are below 100 IQ

It takes 95 IQ to pass high school with a D, 100 IQ to pass high school
with a C, and 115 IQ to pass college with a D, 123 with a C, 136 with a B,
144 with an A. Retardation begins at 92 IQ. 60% of blacks and 30% of
whites are BELOW 92 IQ. 50% of blacks and 20% of whites are below 83 IQ
(the black average mean IQ level).

The number of blacks with above average IQ of 100+ by comparisonto whites 
is 
1 black to each 21 white with an IQ above 100.
This means only 1 black out of every 21 above average citizens is
available for executive positions, actually about 1/3rd that amount since
the number of blacks above 130 IQ is less than 10% or about 330,000
persons. Those with degrees and an IQ above 130 are even fewer, since many
do not attend college.
This shows how easily affirmative action can place unqualified people into
positions of authority.

Prepared by Frank Weltner 1995

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From potato@mo.net Mon Dec 11 15:47:55 PST 1995
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In article ,
alien@pacificrim.net (Todd Fagin) wrote:

> By that same toke, take away the race card and, poof, the Republicans and
> Conservatives are gone.  No more Willy Hortons, no more scapegoating, no
> more pot shots at welfare, no more War on Drugs (i.e. war on young black
> males--6.8% of all adult black males are in prison or jail, according to
> the Justice Department's Bureau of Justice Statistics), etc. etc.  The
> Republicans will not have a platfrom to stir up all those Angry White
> Males.
> 
Hey, get rid of the blacks and immigrants, and we wouldn't need a
government much less parties.

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From potato@mo.net Mon Dec 11 15:47:56 PST 1995
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In article ,
Don  wrote:

>  Ummm. What's fair is fair I suppose.  Guess this is just as valid a
> question as the one I've been seeing about "Blacks going back to Africa." 
> Perhaps we should all get on a boat and leave this beautiful land to the
> Native Americans we stole it from.  Let's have all people from Ireland go
> back there, and all those from Turkey go back there, and of course there's
> those pesky people from England, Germany, and France.  They should all go
> back at the same time that those honorable people from Africa are made to
> go there.  Then of course we also have the problem of all the white people
> who are in Africa now, and attempting to claim it as their own!  That's
> easy to solve!!  All whites in South Africa need to "go back" to wherever
> they came from!  See how easy it is to solve all the world's problems! 
> Now we can all be happy. 
> 
I'm willing to go back to Europe. I all the whites went back, the blacks
wouldn't know how to survive in America. They'd die out in two years.
Then, we'll come back and not have to support their lazy butts.

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From potato@mo.net Tue Dec 12 13:38:45 PST 1995
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I was walking across a bridge one day, and i saw a man standing on the edge,
about to jump off.  so i ran over and said "stop! don't do it!"  "Why
shouldn't I?"
he said.  I said, "Well, there's so much to live for!"  He said, "Like
what?"  I said,
"Well...are you religious or atheist?"  He said, "Religious."
I said, "Me too!  Are you christian or buddhist?"  He said, "Christian."
I said, "Me too!  Are you catholic or protestant?"  He said, "Protestant."
said, "Me too!  Are you episcopalian or baptist?"  He said, "Baptist!"
I said, "Wow!  Me too!  Are you baptist church of god or baptist church of
the lord?"
He said, "Baptist church of god!"  I said, "Me too!  Are you original
baptist
church of god, or are you reformed baptist church of god?"  He said,
"Reformed
baptist church of god!"  I said, "Me too!  Are you reformed baptist church
of
god, reformation of 1879, or reformed baptist church of god, reformation of
1915?"  He said, "Reformed baptist church of god, reformation of 1915!"  I
said, "Die, heretic scum", and pushed him off.

At my lemonade stand I used to give the first glass away free and charge
five dollars for the second glass.  The refill contained the antidote.

A friend of mine gave me a Philip Glass record. I listened to it for five
hours before I realized it had a scratch on it.

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From potato@mo.net Tue Dec 12 22:15:18 PST 1995
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              ATTENTION!!!! NEW NEOPOLITAN SLAVE MALL OPENING!!!

                          NIGGER SALES THIS FRIDAY!

Come to the Mall every Friday evening and touch, inspect, and speak with
the slave-to-be of your dreams. They are a little short on smarts, but we
know you will agree that their basketball skills are better than yours.
Use them to wow your neighbors' kids in the drive under the hanging
basketball net. Make them mow your lawn, clean your house, plow the patch
for your 6 tomato plants, make your bed, place nigger scent in your home.
And, when you can't stand the whining and complaining and drugs any
longer, bring him back and sell him to someone else who doesn't know....

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From potato@mo.net Tue Dec 12 22:15:19 PST 1995
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In article <4afkpe$ffs@ionews.io.org>, lzaird@io.org (lzaird) wrote:

> potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner) wrote:
> >Don't give me this "African trickster" bullshit. Lie back and recline on
> >your slanted forehead and give it up, Glenn. Your forehead is way in
> >taking up your brain.
> 
> Frank, you've gotta be double-agent man!  You're making us 'liberals'
> look too good!

God knows, you liberal assholes need all the help you can get.

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From potato@mo.net Tue Dec 12 22:15:20 PST 1995
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> > For the benefit of you race-conscious Aryan/Atlanteans: No, I don't have
> > the honour of being Indian, but I'm learning the language, which is
> > *astoundingly* beautiful. 
> 
Why don't you leave and learn it quietly. You'd have more fun with it in
Calcutta, especially after the nice little peaceable Hindu boy, Kim, cuts
your nice white throat.

> My father, who is fluent in Urdu, Hindi, Gujarati and a smattering of
> Sanskrit tells me that Urdu is the most poetic language. He tells me that
> to hear two people arguing in Urdu you would think they are making love. I
> unfortunately am not as knowledgeable as he, and only speak Gujarati and a
> smattering of Hindi.

Listen, Rajiv, you are a nice little intellecutal raghead. Of course, all
Indians are Aryans. I don't notice you bringing this up. You are too
humble, sir.

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From potato@mo.net Tue Dec 12 22:51:54 PST 1995
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In article <4afkpe$ffs@ionews.io.org>, lzaird@io.org (lzaird) wrote:

> potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner) wrote:
> >Don't give me this "African trickster" bullshit. Lie back and recline on
> >your slanted forehead and give it up, Glenn. Your forehead is way in
> >taking up your brain.
> 
> Frank, you've gotta be double-agent man!  You're making us 'liberals'
> look too good!

God knows, you liberal assholes need all the help you can get.

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From potato@mo.net Tue Dec 12 22:51:55 PST 1995
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> > For the benefit of you race-conscious Aryan/Atlanteans: No, I don't have
> > the honour of being Indian, but I'm learning the language, which is
> > *astoundingly* beautiful. 
> 
Why don't you leave and learn it quietly. You'd have more fun with it in
Calcutta, especially after the nice little peaceable Hindu boy, Kim, cuts
your nice white throat.

> My father, who is fluent in Urdu, Hindi, Gujarati and a smattering of
> Sanskrit tells me that Urdu is the most poetic language. He tells me that
> to hear two people arguing in Urdu you would think they are making love. I
> unfortunately am not as knowledgeable as he, and only speak Gujarati and a
> smattering of Hindi.

Listen, Rajiv, you are a nice little intellecutal raghead. Of course, all
Indians are Aryans. I don't notice you bringing this up. You are too
humble, sir.

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From potato@mo.net Tue Dec 12 23:04:23 PST 1995
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              ATTENTION!!!! NEW NEOPOLITAN SLAVE MALL OPENING!!!

                          NIGGER SALES THIS FRIDAY!

Come to the Mall every Friday evening and touch, inspect, and speak with
the slave-to-be of your dreams. They are a little short on smarts, but we
know you will agree that their basketball skills are better than yours.
Use them to wow your neighbors' kids in the drive under the hanging
basketball net. Make them mow your lawn, clean your house, plow the patch
for your 6 tomato plants, make your bed, place nigger scent in your home.
And, when you can't stand the whining and complaining and drugs any
longer, bring him back and sell him to someone else who doesn't know....

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From potato@mo.net Tue Dec 12 23:04:23 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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> Furthermore, India has some of the best surgeons in the world - eye
> surgery is not done with rusty blades.

They've been especially good at transmitting AIDS through their needles
which they clean by sticking them in the next patient's arm. But, hell,
they're only Indians.

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From potato@mo.net Tue Dec 12 23:31:37 PST 1995
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              ATTENTION!!!! NEW NEOPOLITAN SLAVE MALL OPENING!!!

                          NIGGER SALES THIS FRIDAY!

Come to the Mall every Friday evening and touch, inspect, and speak with
the slave-to-be of your dreams. They are a little short on smarts, but we
know you will agree that their basketball skills are better than yours.
Use them to wow your neighbors' kids in the drive under the hanging
basketball net. Make them mow your lawn, clean your house, plow the patch
for your 6 tomato plants, make your bed, place nigger scent in your home.
And, when you can't stand the whining and complaining and drugs any
longer, bring him back and sell him to someone else who doesn't know....

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From potato@mo.net Tue Dec 12 23:31:38 PST 1995
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> Furthermore, India has some of the best surgeons in the world - eye
> surgery is not done with rusty blades.

They've been especially good at transmitting AIDS through their needles
which they clean by sticking them in the next patient's arm. But, hell,
they're only Indians.

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From potato@mo.net Tue Dec 12 23:31:38 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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> >>   potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner) writes:
> >>  In article ,
> >>  Carolyn Y Park  wrote:
> >>  > Most Blacks aren't worried about being black.  They're worried about 
> >>  > living in a white power structure that has always made it so that most 
> >>  > Blacks cannot get out of their shackles.
> >>  It's tough to get those food stamps off your wrists. Ain't that
right, >>ape shit?
> >It would be funny seeing you speak like that to black folks in
public...! >Chickenshit.
> 
> You doubt the iron-clad bravery of a proud aryan soldier like Frank?
> (heh heh heh)
> --
One year in The Nam. Three purple hearts, two bravery citations,
twenty-seven missions, combat medals, and honorable discharge. I called
them nigger in Nam when they were carrying rifles, and it don't make no
shit to me. However, I do require that they act like a nigger first. I
don't call a black gentleman a nigger. I call a black gentleman, sir. I
respect black gentlemen. I like black gentlemen. What I don't like is
scum, whether it is black or white. Scum is shit. Human refuse.

So, I won't say these things in public? I have. I love bar fights. Get it?
I don't give a shit. I tell it the way it is. Act like a nigger and I will
tell  you. Act like a gentleman and I will tell you. 

You can't lose. After all, either way you get me in your face.

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From potato@mo.net Tue Dec 12 23:31:39 PST 1995
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In article <4ad3o4$jd0@phobos.kiss.de>, Mark in Germany wrote:

> >
> > Please remove alt.smokers from the header.
> >
>         Give it up!  I didn't see alt.smokers in this header. 
>         I think it's destiny for smokers to read this.
>         Grab a smoke and mellow out.  
>         
>          :D
> 
>         Mark
> 
>   
The more of this you read, the less you can kill yourself with tobacco.

thanks, and here's my card...

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From potato@mo.net Tue Dec 12 23:31:40 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article <4ad43f$jd0@phobos.kiss.de>, Mark@kiss.de wrote:

> >
> >IQ of a potato, buddy-ro.  See if you can't elevate yourself, huh?
> >
> >Bill
> 
>         Frank (potato)
> 
>         Please don't listen to Bill.  Stay just as you are.
>         I'd lose one of my biggest sources of entertainment! 
> 
>         Mark

I will. I can't afford an escalator. Besides, I hate retail.

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From potato@mo.net Tue Dec 12 23:31:40 PST 1995
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> No, little man that isn't waht I claimed at all. I said only, that PERHAPS
> the Africans had no desire to pillage and plunder Europe because they were
> happy with what they had. 

I don't blame them. A guy owns his own grass hut, a cow, and a monkey.
What else does he need? A rag for his head, maybe.

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From potato@mo.net Tue Dec 12 23:31:41 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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The blacks never invaded Europe, never got near it. The Egyptians and
North Africans had no problems whith them either. The huge Saharan Desert
was too much for their bare black little tooties. Ouch. Ouch. And there
were no bananas in the desert either. Mahui is not kind. We turn back.
Bananas. Bananas. Me no go North. Big sand. Nothing but sand.

A few of them cam down the Nile River, but the Egyptians made them work.
There is nothing a black man hates more than work. So, they passed the
word all the way through Sudan and Ethiopia, and they stopped settling
around the Nile. That way they could sit on their fat black asses and fuck
each other.

That was about it.

Our next lesson on African History will the be the story of Mumba, the
little bush boy from Maritania who walked all the way from the Indian
Ocean across the grass savanna to the Atlantic where he was welcomed,
spiked, and eaten by the natives who made beautiful beads from sea shells
and created songs in regard of Mumba's memory.

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From potato@mo.net Tue Dec 12 23:31:42 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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Raghead, Sir:

What makes you assume that the Jews weren't Aryans? Many peoples in the
North of Europe have countries named after Jewish and Israeli Tribes.

SanDANavia, SweDAN, and DANmark (Tribe of Dan) and Saxons (Isaac's Sons).
Here is fundamental thesaurean reference to a past which is darkly inked
in the mystery of a forgotten history.

Perhaps you should not assume so much. Oh, sir, a man with an Aryan
background like yours. Sir, even with your darkling skin type! Sir, have
pride.


In article , anakin@pinc.com
(Rajiv K. Gandhi) wrote:

> In article <4aar08$1kd6@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>, speedy5 (KT) wrote:
> 
> > The Bible is an exception. While Mao's works only sold well, INSIDE China. 
> > And in big numbers, cause there's more than 1.000.000.000 chinks.
> 
> The Bible is the best selling book of all time. It was written by
> non-Aryans. It was about those pesky Joos. The central character was a
> Jew, and possibly a black one at that.
> 
> You also have obviously decided to ignore those twelve or thirteen other
> messages pointing out all those OTHER exceptions. Go figure, a white power
> type ignoring evidence because it contradicts what he says.
> 
> Mao's works sold all over the world. And yes, there are more than 1.2
> billion chinese people. Just think, whites are a minority. Gives you the
> chills, doesn't it?

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From potato@mo.net Wed Dec 13 00:41:35 PST 1995
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> No, little man that isn't waht I claimed at all. I said only, that PERHAPS
> the Africans had no desire to pillage and plunder Europe because they were
> happy with what they had. 

I don't blame them. A guy owns his own grass hut, a cow, and a monkey.
What else does he need? A rag for his head, maybe.

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From potato@mo.net Wed Dec 13 00:41:36 PST 1995
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The blacks never invaded Europe, never got near it. The Egyptians and
North Africans had no problems whith them either. The huge Saharan Desert
was too much for their bare black little tooties. Ouch. Ouch. And there
were no bananas in the desert either. Mahui is not kind. We turn back.
Bananas. Bananas. Me no go North. Big sand. Nothing but sand.

A few of them cam down the Nile River, but the Egyptians made them work.
There is nothing a black man hates more than work. So, they passed the
word all the way through Sudan and Ethiopia, and they stopped settling
around the Nile. That way they could sit on their fat black asses and fuck
each other.

That was about it.

Our next lesson on African History will the be the story of Mumba, the
little bush boy from Maritania who walked all the way from the Indian
Ocean across the grass savanna to the Atlantic where he was welcomed,
spiked, and eaten by the natives who made beautiful beads from sea shells
and created songs in regard of Mumba's memory.

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From potato@mo.net Wed Dec 13 00:41:37 PST 1995
Article: 15817 of alt.revisionism
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Raghead, Sir:

What makes you assume that the Jews weren't Aryans? Many peoples in the
North of Europe have countries named after Jewish and Israeli Tribes.

SanDANavia, SweDAN, and DANmark (Tribe of Dan) and Saxons (Isaac's Sons).
Here is fundamental thesaurean reference to a past which is darkly inked
in the mystery of a forgotten history.

Perhaps you should not assume so much. Oh, sir, a man with an Aryan
background like yours. Sir, even with your darkling skin type! Sir, have
pride.


In article , anakin@pinc.com
(Rajiv K. Gandhi) wrote:

> In article <4aar08$1kd6@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>, speedy5 (KT) wrote:
> 
> > The Bible is an exception. While Mao's works only sold well, INSIDE China. 
> > And in big numbers, cause there's more than 1.000.000.000 chinks.
> 
> The Bible is the best selling book of all time. It was written by
> non-Aryans. It was about those pesky Joos. The central character was a
> Jew, and possibly a black one at that.
> 
> You also have obviously decided to ignore those twelve or thirteen other
> messages pointing out all those OTHER exceptions. Go figure, a white power
> type ignoring evidence because it contradicts what he says.
> 
> Mao's works sold all over the world. And yes, there are more than 1.2
> billion chinese people. Just think, whites are a minority. Gives you the
> chills, doesn't it?

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From potato@mo.net Wed Dec 13 00:41:38 PST 1995
Article: 15825 of alt.revisionism
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> Make up your mind (if you have one) either black people are human or
> sub-human, but they can't be both.  While you're at it, you might
> want to explain why white people have more vestigial simian features
> than black people.

                 I take it this guy didn't see King Kong.

Let me remind him that King Kong's "vestigial features" and dark skin--as
he fondled Fae Wray and her stand-in on the Empire State Building--looked
just like those of a typical jungle bunny from Washington DC, or haven't
you ever noticed? Did King Kong look white? Could have fooled me. 

Eat a banana. You can see better. You need vitamins, maybe.

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From potato@mo.net Wed Dec 13 00:41:39 PST 1995
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> A pedistal to a statue with the name "Pontius Pilate Governor General
> of Judea" and a Roman date corresponding to 04 BCE through 06 AD has 
> been found at a dig at the Roman seaport of Ceasarium on the Isreali
> coast. This is the only record ever found to substantiate that Pilate 
> was a real person.
> 
> George Graves

George, I would like to read about this. Where can I find it. The Roman
Governor Festus was at Caesaria. I was there in 1970. What a beautiful
ruin! Sundown, a jazz orchestra playing in the greek theatre, sun going
down over the Mediterranean. Wow. Gorgeous place.

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From potato@mo.net Wed Dec 13 02:59:46 PST 1995
Article: 15830 of alt.revisionism
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Jesus of Galilee, a samaritan area which was maligned by the "high Jews"
in Judah for its rather gentile ways including Baal worship and other
incomparable barbarities. In addition, Galilee was the site of a Greek
city named Deucopolis, where Platonism, stone goddesses, and even reading
of science and math was encouraged.

Much is made of the passage of boats across the Sea of Galilee by Jesus
and how each side differed. The western side was nowhere, a kind of ogre's
hideaway where strange folks lived including a very deranged man whom
Jesus healed.

The prophecies of the OT included a messiah who was despised by everyone
in the world. Nazareth and Nazarene means "despised of all". So the phrase
"Jesus of Nazareth" means "the most dispised Jesus." So, here we have this
guy from goyim land (where the goyim or "gentiles" live) who comes to
Jerusalem to take over the movement which John the Baptist began before
his was beheaded, making it his own.

Well, so much for my pedantic knowledge of this. I have been to Tiberias
on the Sea of Galilee thirty years ago, about the number of years Jesus
lived before he started preaching.

Was Jesus a Jew? Sure. Were Jews Jews or Aryans? There's the rub. Most
Jews are evidently of Mongol and Russian/Slovic Heritage, having taken the
religion as their own about 1,000 years ago in an area just north of
Turkey which is now largely the freed moslem states of the old Soviet
Union. They lived in Georgia and its surrounding areas and migrated into
Spain, got pushed out there, and settled for 500 years in Germany, the
only country that would take them. Thanks to the asshole, Hitler, they
were killed, and the only country that welcomed them for 500 years now
looks like a piece of shit. Fifteen years of Hitler destroyed 500 years of
friendship.

> Also, anyone who is born into the "Hebrew religion" or converted, is 
> circumcised, and received a bar mitzvah is a "Jew".  
> 
> Mark

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From potato@mo.net Wed Dec 13 03:33:46 PST 1995
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ALBION, MI-At a small midwestern college, a campus-wide debate has
continued over a race-based financial award given to every black student
upon acceptance.  Even at ostensibly conservative institutions of higher
education such as Albion [College], the multicultural advocates have
prevailed with their agenda.  

Albion College's "Diversity Award" for black Americans is racist, unfair,
and absurd, say students, parents, and alumni who are pushing to abolish
the policy.

The "Diversity Award" gives $4,000 a year to each black student,
regardless of his financial situation or his grades.  It is funded through
all tuition payments, alumni donations to the general fund, and a grant
>from  the United Methodist Church.  The Methodist grant is not specifically
for the "Diversity Award," but all dollars in the general fund are
commingled and used the subsidize the 20% tuition break for blacks.

As stated in an Albion College brochure directed at blacks, "Albion will
provide you with a $4,000 'Diversity Award' regardless of your family's
financial situation.  If you demonstrate financial need, this award, in
combination with other state and federal financial aid programs, will
bring an Albion education within your reach.  The award is renewable each
year.  You may also qualify for other Albion College scholarships and
grants... First, you need to apply for admission to Albion College.  Upon
acceptance, you automatically will be offered a 'Diversity award'."

A proposal was introduce to the student government in September calling
for the abolishment of the Diversity Award.  Cori Johnson, a student
government representative who spoke against the award, said, "The
atmosphere in the lecture hall was tense and threatening to anyone who
opposed the award.  This intimidation, along with vehement support of the
award by college administrators, silenced many students."

Randy Miller, publisher of the BATTLE CREEK ENQUIRER, has been active in
defending the college's policy.  Publisher Miller wrote, "The city of
Albion is 28.7 percent black, while the campus is just over 4 percent
black.  That's wrong, and thankfully college administrators and most of
the student body understands that... There should be an ongoing debate
over how Albion can best reach the goal of reflecting the racial makeup of
their community."

Darin Morency, president of the College Republicans, responded to Miller's
claims: "Social engineers like Miller and the bureaucrats at Albion
College think financial grants should be used as a tool to promote a
liberal political and social agendas."

Publisher Miller continued, "Diversity is an important plus.  It's
important for the ENQUIRER and for everyone in our community."

Morency added, "The multicultural policy claim that diversity is a
high-minded unquestionable goal, but that is nonsensical sloganeering that
stamps out logical discussion of the issue.  The Diversity Award is
blatantly unconstitutional and racially separatist.  Grants funded by
students, alumni, churches, and taxpayers should be colorblind.

[This is an excerpt from The UNReported News (TURN), a bi-weekly
conservative newspaper published in Lansing Michigan.  For information on
how to get a free copy of this newpaper call 1-800-762-TURN and mention
you saw this on the Internet]


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From potato@mo.net Wed Dec 13 12:25:45 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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> 
> > The separation of races is anathema to all decent thinking Canadians
> 
Really? When was the last time you invited a frog, an eskimo, a negro, or
an indian to dinner? When was the last time you offered your daughter to
one? It's been quite a while, friend, hasn't it?

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The first human known in North America to
> have had AIDS was an airline steward who transmitted it to all the
> cities at which he had layovers.
> 
"Layovers" is right. He was gay as a snake, and he slept with 1,000 people
per year. The perfect layover. I fuck you and you die, slob.

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From potato@mo.net Wed Dec 13 12:25:46 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article , mmcon@netcom.com (Jon M.
Gallagher) wrote:

> Frank Weltner (potato@mo.net) wrote:
> : In article <49vcop$s8a@larry.cc.emory.edu>, libwca@larry.cc.emory.edu
> : (william c anderson) wrote:
> 
> : > Frank Weltner (potato@mo.net) wrote:
> : > : Just in case you forgot, here is your worst nightmare again:
> : > 
> : > 
> : > :         ASCII Bell Curve Showing Distribution of White & Black IQ
> : > 
> : > 
> : > 
> : > Frank, the two dozen posts directly in front of this repost demolished
> : > your pretty little chart fairly completely.  Isn't it embarassing to
> : > you to repost something that's already been shown to demonstrate that
> : > you have the brains of a jellyfish?  If not, please remember that it's
> : > embarassing to the rest of us to watch, and try to keep your mental
> : > insufficiency private, okay?
> : > 
> : > Bill

Au contraire, Bill. It didn't budge me in the least. I have never read
such a bag of bullshit since the hogs fell from the 300 foot bluff and
exploded in shit cakes on the rocks below. Nothing you said was anything
but liberal blather. As Aristotle said, "When we discuss what is written
in a manuscript, it is wiser to allow the manuscript to speak for itself
and not trust a mere critic." The book is immense, well-written,
bibliographies up the ying-yang, and you not only did not refute it, you
can't.

And now, for those who have forgotten!


        ASCII Bell Curve Showing Distribution of White & Black IQ
                       Page 279 of The Bell Curve
                 Ethnic Differences in Cognitive Ability


THE BELL CURVE DISTRIBUTION OF BLACK AND WHITE IQ LEVELS BASED ON THE
NATIONAL LONGITUDINAL SURVEY OF YOUTH AND THE ARMED FORCES TESTING SURVEY
(NLSY & AFTS) MEASURING IQ FOR MILLIONS OF PERSONS TESTED YEAR AFTER YEAR

    BLACKS FALL ON LEFT (LOW IQ)      WHITES ON RIGHT (HIGH IQ)


                                  w
                                white
                               whites.
                              whites wh
                             whites whit
                            whites whites 
                            whites whites. 
                           whites whites wh
BLACK MEAN AVERAGE         whites whites wh     WHITE MEAN
83 IQ IS BORDERLINE       whites whites whit    AVERAGE IQ
RETARDED                 whites whites whites   100-103
                       whites whites whites whi
                   blawhites whites whites whites 
                blacks blacks whites whites whites 
blacks blacks blacks blacks black blacks whites whites 
blacks blacks blacks blacks blacks blacks blacks whites 
__________________________________________________________
IQ   50   60   70   80   90  100  110  120 130 140  150 
                      /\       /\
     BLACK MEAN IQ IS 83        WHITE MEAN IQ IS 100-103

1/2 OF BLACKS HAVE 83 IQ OR LESS       1/2 OF WHITES HAVE 100-103 IQ OR LESS
70% OF BLACKS HAVE 100-103 IQ OR LESS  30% OF WHITES HAVE 83 IQ OR LESS
--------------------------------       -------------------------------------
1/2 OF BLACKS HAVE 83 IQ OR MORE       1/2 OF WHITES HAVE 100-103 IQ OR MORE
30% OF BLACKS HAVE 100-103 IQ OR MORE  70% OF WHITES HAVE 83 IQ OR MORE

EACH 10% OF BLACKS =  4 MILLION PERSONS AND 1 MILLION ADULT BLACKS
EACH 10% OF WHITES = 20 MILLION PERSONS AND 9 MILLION ADULT WHITES
(The adult group are persons above 18 years of age)

Smarties
 3 million adult blacks are above 100 IQ
63 million adult whites are above 100 IQ

Dummies
 7 million adult blacks are below 100 IQ
63 million adult whites are below 100 IQ

It takes 95 IQ to pass high school with a D, 100 IQ to pass high school
with a C, and 115 IQ to pass college with a D, 123 with a C, 136 with a B,
144 with an A. Retardation begins at 92 IQ. 60% of blacks and 30% of
whites are BELOW 92 IQ. 50% of blacks and 20% of whites are below 83 IQ
(the black average mean IQ level).

The number of blacks with above average IQ of 100+ by comparisonto whites 
is 
1 black to each 21 white with an IQ above 100.
This means only 1 black out of every 21 above average citizens is
available for executive positions, actually about 1/3rd that amount since
the number of blacks above 130 IQ is less than 10% or about 330,000
persons. Those with degrees and an IQ above 130 are even fewer, since many
do not attend college.
This shows how easily affirmative action can place unqualified people into
positions of authority.

Prepared by Frank Weltner 1995

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From potato@mo.net Wed Dec 13 12:25:47 PST 1995
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> Nothing in The Bell Curve is new

Correct. Blacks have been dumb from the beginning. That is why they made
better slaves than smart people.  
> 
> 
> >The Bell Curve gets in the way of their fantasies, and, oh!, we just can't
> >have that! 
> 
> The Bell Curve creates a fantasy for those who do not understand the 
> theories and concepts contained therein.  Most specifically, it allows 
> *fools* to continue their rantings about inherent superiority of any race 
> over another.
> 
> (Doesn't
> >matter that negroes still can't be successful no matter where you bus
> >them, where you house them, how much you feed them, how many schools you
> >destroy with their noisy presence, how many have babies out of wedlock,
> >how many have babies within wedlock. No, that doesn't matter. What matters
> >is keeping up the illusion that they are equal when they aren't. Because
> >they are dumb. Even if it means lying.)
> >
> Lying?  I'd never do that.  It's entirely too easy to browbeat you with 
> truth.  The concept of heritability is at the base of The Bell Curve.  
> This concept (actually a relatively complicated mathematical formula) can 
> only be used to access genotypic differences between members of  
> identical groups in identical environments. 
> 
-----bullshit snipped-----

Tim. You lose.


        ASCII Bell Curve Showing Distribution of White & Black IQ
                       Page 279 of The Bell Curve
                 Ethnic Differences in Cognitive Ability


THE BELL CURVE DISTRIBUTION OF BLACK AND WHITE IQ LEVELS BASED ON THE
NATIONAL LONGITUDINAL SURVEY OF YOUTH AND THE ARMED FORCES TESTING SURVEY
(NLSY & AFTS) MEASURING IQ FOR MILLIONS OF PERSONS TESTED YEAR AFTER YEAR

    BLACKS FALL ON LEFT (LOW IQ)      WHITES ON RIGHT (HIGH IQ)


                                  w
                                white
                               whites.
                              whites wh
                             whites whit
                            whites whites 
                            whites whites. 
                           whites whites wh
BLACK MEAN AVERAGE         whites whites wh     WHITE MEAN
83 IQ IS BORDERLINE       whites whites whit    AVERAGE IQ
RETARDED                 whites whites whites   100-103
                       whites whites whites whi
                   blawhites whites whites whites 
                blacks blacks whites whites whites 
blacks blacks blacks blacks black blacks whites whites 
blacks blacks blacks blacks blacks blacks blacks whites 
__________________________________________________________
IQ   50   60   70   80   90  100  110  120 130 140  150 
                      /\       /\
     BLACK MEAN IQ IS 83        WHITE MEAN IQ IS 100-103

1/2 OF BLACKS HAVE 83 IQ OR LESS       1/2 OF WHITES HAVE 100-103 IQ OR LESS
70% OF BLACKS HAVE 100-103 IQ OR LESS  30% OF WHITES HAVE 83 IQ OR LESS
--------------------------------       -------------------------------------
1/2 OF BLACKS HAVE 83 IQ OR MORE       1/2 OF WHITES HAVE 100-103 IQ OR MORE
30% OF BLACKS HAVE 100-103 IQ OR MORE  70% OF WHITES HAVE 83 IQ OR MORE

EACH 10% OF BLACKS =  4 MILLION PERSONS AND 1 MILLION ADULT BLACKS
EACH 10% OF WHITES = 20 MILLION PERSONS AND 9 MILLION ADULT WHITES
(The adult group are persons above 18 years of age)

Smarties
 3 million adult blacks are above 100 IQ
63 million adult whites are above 100 IQ

Dummies
 7 million adult blacks are below 100 IQ
63 million adult whites are below 100 IQ

It takes 95 IQ to pass high school with a D, 100 IQ to pass high school
with a C, and 115 IQ to pass college with a D, 123 with a C, 136 with a B,
144 with an A. Retardation begins at 92 IQ. 60% of blacks and 30% of
whites are BELOW 92 IQ. 50% of blacks and 20% of whites are below 83 IQ
(the black average mean IQ level).

The number of blacks with above average IQ of 100+ by comparisonto whites 
is 
1 black to each 21 white with an IQ above 100.
This means only 1 black out of every 21 above average citizens is
available for executive positions, actually about 1/3rd that amount since
the number of blacks above 130 IQ is less than 10% or about 330,000
persons. Those with degrees and an IQ above 130 are even fewer, since many
do not attend college.
This shows how easily affirmative action can place unqualified people into
positions of authority.

Prepared by Frank Weltner 1995

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From potato@mo.net Wed Dec 13 12:25:48 PST 1995
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In article <4aaq5a$4kt@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, malbogeia@aol.com
(Malbogeia) wrote:

> Im a nigger, care to fuck me???

No. It would be redundant.

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From potato@mo.net Wed Dec 13 13:26:24 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article <30ca03f6.813500@news.fastlane.net>, silvafg@fastlane.net (F.G.
Silva, III) wrote:

> potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner) wrote:
> 
> >The OED, Old English Dictionary is not all inclusive. Last night, for
> >instance, I opened my prodicious copy of the OED and looked up "Raggedy
> >Ann." There was no reference to "Raggedy Ann." 
> >
> >So, I tossed the entire piece of shit out the fucking window.
> >
> 
> Speaking of shit. That's precisely what I'd love to do to you.
> Now go back and post more unsubstantiated aryan bell curve shit so we
> can refute both you and it, again! :-)))

Really? Well, just because you asked!!!!! Here it is!!!!! Wheeeee!!!!!


        ASCII Bell Curve Showing Distribution of White & Black IQ
                       Page 279 of The Bell Curve
                 Ethnic Differences in Cognitive Ability


THE BELL CURVE DISTRIBUTION OF BLACK AND WHITE IQ LEVELS BASED ON THE
NATIONAL LONGITUDINAL SURVEY OF YOUTH AND THE ARMED FORCES TESTING SURVEY
(NLSY & AFTS) MEASURING IQ FOR MILLIONS OF PERSONS TESTED YEAR AFTER YEAR

    BLACKS FALL ON LEFT (LOW IQ)      WHITES ON RIGHT (HIGH IQ)


                                  w
                                white
                               whites.
                              whites wh
                             whites whit
                            whites whites 
                            whites whites. 
                           whites whites wh
BLACK MEAN AVERAGE         whites whites wh     WHITE MEAN
83 IQ IS BORDERLINE       whites whites whit    AVERAGE IQ
RETARDED                 whites whites whites   100-103
                       whites whites whites whi
                   blawhites whites whites whites 
                blacks blacks whites whites whites 
blacks blacks blacks blacks black blacks whites whites 
blacks blacks blacks blacks blacks blacks blacks whites 
__________________________________________________________
IQ   50   60   70   80   90  100  110  120 130 140  150 
                      /\       /\
     BLACK MEAN IQ IS 83        WHITE MEAN IQ IS 100-103

1/2 OF BLACKS HAVE 83 IQ OR LESS       1/2 OF WHITES HAVE 100-103 IQ OR LESS
70% OF BLACKS HAVE 100-103 IQ OR LESS  30% OF WHITES HAVE 83 IQ OR LESS
--------------------------------       -------------------------------------
1/2 OF BLACKS HAVE 83 IQ OR MORE       1/2 OF WHITES HAVE 100-103 IQ OR MORE
30% OF BLACKS HAVE 100-103 IQ OR MORE  70% OF WHITES HAVE 83 IQ OR MORE

EACH 10% OF BLACKS =  4 MILLION PERSONS AND 1 MILLION ADULT BLACKS
EACH 10% OF WHITES = 20 MILLION PERSONS AND 9 MILLION ADULT WHITES
(The adult group are persons above 18 years of age)

Smarties
 3 million adult blacks are above 100 IQ
63 million adult whites are above 100 IQ

Dummies
 7 million adult blacks are below 100 IQ
63 million adult whites are below 100 IQ

It takes 95 IQ to pass high school with a D, 100 IQ to pass high school
with a C, and 115 IQ to pass college with a D, 123 with a C, 136 with a B,
144 with an A. Retardation begins at 92 IQ. 60% of blacks and 30% of
whites are BELOW 92 IQ. 50% of blacks and 20% of whites are below 83 IQ
(the black average mean IQ level).

The number of blacks with above average IQ of 100+ by comparisonto whites 
is 
1 black to each 21 white with an IQ above 100.
This means only 1 black out of every 21 above average citizens is
available for executive positions, actually about 1/3rd that amount since
the number of blacks above 130 IQ is less than 10% or about 330,000
persons. Those with degrees and an IQ above 130 are even fewer, since many
do not attend college.
This shows how easily affirmative action can place unqualified people into
positions of authority.

Prepared by Frank Weltner 1995

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From potato@mo.net Wed Dec 13 13:26:25 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article <4agicv$hvr@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, fresh816@aol.com (Fresh816)
wrote:

> Can you, with even the slightest bit of veracity, trace the "fault" of
> these diseases to the African people.  Way I see it, it's white people who
> brought AIDS out of Africa.  If you're interested in the most touted
> theory of how AIDS spread into the West, I'll post it, but I don't want to
> strain your brain unless your up for it.
> 
> Africa's most important contribution to Mankind, Less-turd, is MANKIND.
> 
> Semitic Avenger a.k.a. "Jewboy"--gosh I'm insulted.

I must admit that, as a younger man, I used to go out in search of young
ladies. I would hit the bars and the dancing rooms. I'd get a little high
and happy, and go home.

Every now and then I would wake up with a small green monkey laying next
to me, her little green monkey head on a pillow.

"What did I see in her?" I would ask myself.

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From potato@mo.net Wed Dec 13 14:23:29 PST 1995
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In article
, "H.
Dash"  wrote:

> I have not been subscribing to this news group for very long, but there 
> is something that I've noticed that I have to comment on.  I am wondering 
> why Frank (potato) Weltner spends so much time worried about what black 
> people do if he hates us so much.  Why don't you just live your white 
> supremacist life and leave everyone else alone?  

I can't. You guys are moving into my neighborhood. Get out. We don't want
you. If the federal government wasn't using Section 8, your butts would be
somewhere else, where they belong.

> In addition, if whites have so much culture, why are your children 
> spending so much of their money buying black music, sitting in front of 
> the television making black shows some of the most widely watched, and 
> breakinh their backs trying to dress, act and talk like how they think 
> black people do?

Give me a break. Blacks are trying to do everything white. Do you think we
want to run around calling our women whores and bitches? That is black
trash stuff, not white stuff.

> And as far as accomplishments are concerned, the stoplights billions of 
> people stop at everyday, the peanut butter you eat on your "All-American"
> Peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, and the blood transfusion you will 
> need if you ever decide to use the heart and brain that God gave you were 
> all made possible by black people.

I don't want black blood in me. Do you mind? If it was absolutely
necessary, fine. But I don't want to know. 

> Smooches and lots o' black love Mr. Weltner

Thank you, Heather. I appreciate that. You should rightfully love your
white superiors. It is only right.

> Heather

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From potato@mo.net Wed Dec 13 14:23:30 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article , anakin@pinc.com
(Rajiv K. Gandhi) wrote:

> In article , potato@mo.net
> (Frank Weltner) wrote:
> 
> > >  
> > Don't laugh. Jesus started with only twelve members.
> > 
> 
> And one of them turned against him.

Kissy. Kissy.

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From potato@mo.net Wed Dec 13 14:23:31 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article <30ca03f6.813500@news.fastlane.net>, silvafg@fastlane.net (F.G.
Silva, III) wrote:

> potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner) wrote:
> 
> >The OED, Old English Dictionary is not all inclusive. Last night, for
> >instance, I opened my prodicious copy of the OED and looked up "Raggedy
> >Ann." There was no reference to "Raggedy Ann." 
> >
> >So, I tossed the entire piece of shit out the fucking window.
> >
> 
> Speaking of shit. That's precisely what I'd love to do to you.
> Now go back and post more unsubstantiated aryan bell curve shit so we
> can refute both you and it, again! :-)))

Really? Well, just because you asked!!!!! Here it is!!!!! Wheeeee!!!!!


        ASCII Bell Curve Showing Distribution of White & Black IQ
                       Page 279 of The Bell Curve
                 Ethnic Differences in Cognitive Ability


THE BELL CURVE DISTRIBUTION OF BLACK AND WHITE IQ LEVELS BASED ON THE
NATIONAL LONGITUDINAL SURVEY OF YOUTH AND THE ARMED FORCES TESTING SURVEY
(NLSY & AFTS) MEASURING IQ FOR MILLIONS OF PERSONS TESTED YEAR AFTER YEAR

    BLACKS FALL ON LEFT (LOW IQ)      WHITES ON RIGHT (HIGH IQ)


                                  w
                                white
                               whites.
                              whites wh
                             whites whit
                            whites whites 
                            whites whites. 
                           whites whites wh
BLACK MEAN AVERAGE         whites whites wh     WHITE MEAN
83 IQ IS BORDERLINE       whites whites whit    AVERAGE IQ
RETARDED                 whites whites whites   100-103
                       whites whites whites whi
                   blawhites whites whites whites 
                blacks blacks whites whites whites 
blacks blacks blacks blacks black blacks whites whites 
blacks blacks blacks blacks blacks blacks blacks whites 
__________________________________________________________
IQ   50   60   70   80   90  100  110  120 130 140  150 
                      /\       /\
     BLACK MEAN IQ IS 83        WHITE MEAN IQ IS 100-103

1/2 OF BLACKS HAVE 83 IQ OR LESS       1/2 OF WHITES HAVE 100-103 IQ OR LESS
70% OF BLACKS HAVE 100-103 IQ OR LESS  30% OF WHITES HAVE 83 IQ OR LESS
--------------------------------       -------------------------------------
1/2 OF BLACKS HAVE 83 IQ OR MORE       1/2 OF WHITES HAVE 100-103 IQ OR MORE
30% OF BLACKS HAVE 100-103 IQ OR MORE  70% OF WHITES HAVE 83 IQ OR MORE

EACH 10% OF BLACKS =  4 MILLION PERSONS AND 1 MILLION ADULT BLACKS
EACH 10% OF WHITES = 20 MILLION PERSONS AND 9 MILLION ADULT WHITES
(The adult group are persons above 18 years of age)

Smarties
 3 million adult blacks are above 100 IQ
63 million adult whites are above 100 IQ

Dummies
 7 million adult blacks are below 100 IQ
63 million adult whites are below 100 IQ

It takes 95 IQ to pass high school with a D, 100 IQ to pass high school
with a C, and 115 IQ to pass college with a D, 123 with a C, 136 with a B,
144 with an A. Retardation begins at 92 IQ. 60% of blacks and 30% of
whites are BELOW 92 IQ. 50% of blacks and 20% of whites are below 83 IQ
(the black average mean IQ level).

The number of blacks with above average IQ of 100+ by comparisonto whites 
is 
1 black to each 21 white with an IQ above 100.
This means only 1 black out of every 21 above average citizens is
available for executive positions, actually about 1/3rd that amount since
the number of blacks above 130 IQ is less than 10% or about 330,000
persons. Those with degrees and an IQ above 130 are even fewer, since many
do not attend college.
This shows how easily affirmative action can place unqualified people into
positions of authority.

Prepared by Frank Weltner 1995

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec 14 09:21:19 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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I did not threaten Rachel. I am sorry she misinterpreted my posting. 

The potato does not rape. Never has, never shall. 

Rachel has nothing to worry about from me. 

As a confirmed couch potato, my couch is more important to me than
anything else in the universe. 

With the exception of a nice Big Mac from Mickey Dee's. 

Oh, yes. And give me a baggie of fries. Ahhhh.

Munch. Geek. Munch. Geek. Ummm.

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec 14 09:21:20 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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Unqualified Proofs of the Existence of a White Atlantis Finally Explained:

The strategic placement of the tectonic plates along with the pushing of
the continents apart, plus the undeniable evidence of stone buildings in
Nova Scotia, give us now the archaeological and anthropologic evidence,
beyond the shadow of a doubt, that not only did Atlantis exist, totally
beyond question, but that, in addition, the stainless steel nipple covers
that protect Margaret Thatcher's mammary pupae are an obvious evolutionary
extension of the genious of this vastly superior white civilization.

Submitted with great humility, and I remain....

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec 14 09:21:21 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article <4am27b$mnc@decaxp.harvard.edu>, slking@scws31.harvard.edu
(Stewart King) wrote:

> Frank Weltner (potato@mo.net) wrote:
> : Read it and weep.
> 
> 
> :         ASCII Bell Curve Showing Distribution of White & Black IQ
> :                        Page 279 of The Bell Curve
> :                  Ethnic Differences in Cognitive Ability
> 
> 
> I'm weeping, but probably not for the reason you'd imagine.
> 
I don't blame you. If I had your low intelligence, Stewart, I'd be weeping, too.

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec 14 09:21:22 PST 1995
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In article <12DEC199522480974@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu>,
dmittleman@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu (Daniel Mittleman) wrote:

> In article , potato@mo.net
(Frank Weltner) writes...
> > 
> >They are a selected group. This is mere anecdotal finger pointing. The
> >real situation among blacks is a Mean Average IQ of 83, below retarded.
> >Are some of them smarter? Hell, yes. Many? About 2 million blacks vs. 60
> >million whites. No amount of civil rights can correct this type of
> >statistical deficiency.
> 
>     From where is this IQ of 83 statistic reported?
> 
The Bell Curve. Look!


        ASCII Bell Curve Showing Distribution of White & Black IQ
                       Page 279 of The Bell Curve
                 Ethnic Differences in Cognitive Ability


THE BELL CURVE DISTRIBUTION OF BLACK AND WHITE IQ LEVELS BASED ON THE
NATIONAL LONGITUDINAL SURVEY OF YOUTH AND THE ARMED FORCES TESTING SURVEY
(NLSY & AFTS) MEASURING IQ FOR MILLIONS OF PERSONS TESTED YEAR AFTER YEAR

    BLACKS FALL ON LEFT (LOW IQ)      WHITES ON RIGHT (HIGH IQ)


                                  w
                                white
                               whites.
                              whites wh
                             whites whit
                            whites whites 
                            whites whites. 
                           whites whites wh
BLACK MEAN AVERAGE         whites whites wh     WHITE MEAN
83 IQ IS BORDERLINE       whites whites whit    AVERAGE IQ
RETARDED                 whites whites whites   100-103
                       whites whites whites whi
                   blawhites whites whites whites 
                blacks blacks whites whites whites 
blacks blacks blacks blacks black blacks whites whites 
blacks blacks blacks blacks blacks blacks blacks whites 
__________________________________________________________
IQ   50   60   70   80   90  100  110  120 130 140  150 
                      /\       /\
     BLACK MEAN IQ IS 83        WHITE MEAN IQ IS 100-103

1/2 OF BLACKS HAVE 83 IQ OR LESS       1/2 OF WHITES HAVE 100-103 IQ OR LESS
70% OF BLACKS HAVE 100-103 IQ OR LESS  30% OF WHITES HAVE 83 IQ OR LESS
--------------------------------       -------------------------------------
1/2 OF BLACKS HAVE 83 IQ OR MORE       1/2 OF WHITES HAVE 100-103 IQ OR MORE
30% OF BLACKS HAVE 100-103 IQ OR MORE  70% OF WHITES HAVE 83 IQ OR MORE

EACH 10% OF BLACKS =  4 MILLION PERSONS AND 1 MILLION ADULT BLACKS
EACH 10% OF WHITES = 20 MILLION PERSONS AND 9 MILLION ADULT WHITES
(The adult group are persons above 18 years of age)

Smarties
 3 million adult blacks are above 100 IQ
63 million adult whites are above 100 IQ

Dummies
 7 million adult blacks are below 100 IQ
63 million adult whites are below 100 IQ

It takes 95 IQ to pass high school with a D, 100 IQ to pass high school
with a C, and 115 IQ to pass college with a D, 123 with a C, 136 with a B,
144 with an A. Retardation begins at 92 IQ. 60% of blacks and 30% of
whites are BELOW 92 IQ. 50% of blacks and 20% of whites are below 83 IQ
(the black average mean IQ level).

The number of blacks with above average IQ of 100+ by comparisonto whites 
is 
1 black to each 21 white with an IQ above 100.
This means only 1 black out of every 21 above average citizens is
available for executive positions, actually about 1/3rd that amount since
the number of blacks above 130 IQ is less than 10% or about 330,000
persons. Those with degrees and an IQ above 130 are even fewer, since many
do not attend college.
This shows how easily affirmative action can place unqualified people into
positions of authority.

Prepared by Frank Weltner 1995

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec 14 09:21:22 PST 1995
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In article <4akp42$7pc@news.ais.net>, scallon@pyrotechnics.com (Brendan J.
F. Scallon) wrote:

> Frankie baby, you first say that Alan Keyes and Clarence Thomas are great
> role models then you turn around calling Blacks by the n word.  My former
> roomate once said "I like Blacks but I hate (n)s"  who are you to say how
> Blacks are to act; you never had to feel being called by the n word, you
> never had to be denied a job, get pulled over by 5-0, get hassled by others
> and be denied justice just because of the color of your skin.  So who are
> you to judge how Blacks are to act.  Why don't you judge the whites who
> are on welfare, in jail, etc.?
> --
> Brendan John Francis Scallon

Who are you to tell the Couch Potato that he hasn't felt the pain of
failure in achieving baskets against black NBA players on steroids, or the
excruciation of watching niggers tear his fucking city apart, watching
niggers burning Los Angeles, watching niggers cheering for OJ Simpson's
release like a bunch of little fucking cannibals on hamster mating pills,
watching niggers tear apart brand new $115,000 HUD homes builts especially
for their fornicating, drug infested, anti-intellectual, retarded little
shit lives, wasting the federal treasury on mean-spirited, asswipe,
fuckheads who have no incentive to work, attend high school, or act civil
at the fucking grocery, instead, hitting, kicking, striking their
children, screaminng, acting like fucking apes? I have lived it and seen
it, buster. I don't live in a some septic white enclave. No, my little
enclave is loaded with niggers, niggers killing, niggers shooting dope,
niggers stealing. Last week, the little white woman next door had to have
five fucking stitches in her head because two little nigger boys mugged
her and stole her purse. Last year, they fucked her car so bad it had to
be trashed. Behind my house two people were killed by niggers. Within
twelve blocks eleven niggers killed peope. So, don't give me this
theoretic bullshit about niggers, buster. I know niggers. Niggers suck.
Always have. Always will. People don't change. Did your mother tell you
not to marry a person with the idea she would change? Well, we were sold a
bill of goods about niggers. After 30 years of dysfunctional marriage,
they have changed. They are just as fucking low life and criminal as ever.
Niggers are niggers. Although I salute those blacks who are not niggers,
who live decent lives, these little niggers in the cities suck big black
dick, little boy.

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec 14 09:21:23 PST 1995
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> I wonder how all those kids who "love" you so much would react if they
> saw some of your posts from this newsgroup...?
> G.

You certainly underestimate the intelligence and cunning of American
youth. Most believe as I do.

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec 14 09:21:24 PST 1995
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1. Blacks have been on the earth for 3 million years. 

2. Blacks have always been rather dull and dumb all that time.

3. Blacks in recent years learned to hate whites and to want to destroy them.

4. Given ten years, blacks will suddenly change, evolve, and be like whites.

5. The earth will provide computers from beach sand. 

6. No one will ever have to work.




                       Well, I'll just be dipped in shit. 

                       Looks like excellent logic to me.
  I'm glad you explained it so well. Hell, I thought they'd never get better.
                    Ten more years? Hell, that's not bad.

                (Sound of fingers tapping on computer desk.)

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec 14 10:12:13 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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Subject: Re: Evidence FOR Racial Equality??
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In article ,
jeff_brown@pol.com (Jeffrey G. Brown) wrote:

> In article , potato@mo.net
> (Frank Weltner) wrote:
> 
> > (I know what you were TRYING to say in your statement and I give you some
> > points for TRYING at all, but TRYING doesn't make it true, either.)
> 
> Kinda like "Blacks never marry", isn't it?
> 
> We all know what you were TRYING to say, Weltner, but TRYING doesn't make
> it true.
> 
> Posted and emailed.
> 
> JGB
> 

Q: What's the only difference between fucking a nigger and a sheep?

A: The sheep tries to get away.

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec 14 10:12:14 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article ,
jeff_brown@pol.com (Jeffrey G. Brown) wrote:

> In article , potato@mo.net
> (Frank Weltner) wrote:
> 
> > It is a right only to be treated as another's equal in the eyes of the
> > law. No one should be unfairly villified on account of his skin color or
> > religion.
> 
> What hypocrisy. This is the same Frank Weltner who said (in article
> :
> 
> > However, it doesn't answer why God made
> > Negroes black and Europeans and Asians white. He did it so that we could
> > tell in just one glance who was likely to be dumb and who was likely to be
> > smart. It's simple. 
> 
> In other words, Weltner can glance at a black man and vilify him as
> "dumb". That's pretty simple, all right. It also puts the lie to Weltner's
> self-serving blather about "No one should be unfairly villified on account
> of his skin color".
> 
> > However, those blacks who are intelligent, hard working, energetic, and
> > committed to success, who are just as smart and educated as whites based
> > on true talents, are as welcome as whites anywhere. They are respected by
> > whites, too.
> 
> Respected by whites like Weltner? No such luck. Observe:
> 
> (from article ):
> 
> > Blacks are just dumb. It's not a big deal. They have eyeballs and dicks
> > and pussies like whites. They can function some.
> 
> That's a hell of a way to express your 'respect', isn't it? Let's look at
> another example:
> 
> (from article ):
> 
> > You like niggers enough to feed them, house them, put up with their lazy
> > bullshit? Why? It was a losing economic proposition then, and it still is.
> > Just leave them alone. They are worthless shit even as chattle.
> 
> Yup, Weltner just drips with respect for blacks -- or, as he respectfully
> refers to them, "niggers". 
> 
> Tell us again all about your 'ideals', Weltner, and just how hypocrisy
> became one of them.
> 
> Posted and emailed.
> 
> JGB
> 
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown                                   jeff_brown@pol.com
>  "What's going to happen?"   "Something wonderful..."   -- '2010'
> *Mailed replies to Usenet posts will not be considered confidential.*

I apologize for Jeffrey G. Brown, ladies and gentlemen. He has nothing
else to do but adopt Frank Weltner and compose overly obvious blather,
posing as a kind of schlock referree, as though this is some type of
midnight basketball.

If he continues, I shall have to look into the possibility that Jeffrey
wants to be a "kept boy" or "fem-Mensch" for someone like me. 

Not being in that particular persuasion, I may not be up to handling him
in that fem-Mensch manner; however, praise be to God, my chihuahua, Frito,
tells me that he will.

Now I am looking a Frito very strangely.

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec 14 10:12:15 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.politics.white-power,alt.discrimination
Subject: Re: Hey, Civilized Man...
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In article <4ak4t0$5a@news2.ucsd.edu>, fledgist@weber.ucsd.edu (Fragano
Ledgister) wrote:

> Les Griswold (bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
> : ... while you're drooling over negro achievements and contributions, would
> : you care to comment on two of the largest contributions from Africa?  I'm
> : talking, of course, about AIDS and Ebola.
> 
> : Les
> 
> The relevance of this to anything is not clear.
> 
When hemorraghic blood begins to ooe from your exploding eyes and bubbling
ears and puke red blood is vomited from your dissolving tongue and gums,
everything said here will come clear to you. It might be, shall we say, a
beatific vision, wild, painful, vivid, and, finally, eternal. Oh, this
mortal coil.

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec 14 10:12:16 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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Subject: Re: Black Family Values (They are Different?!)
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> 
> > (if negro families are even formed at all, which is unlikely). 
> 
> The Weltner assertion: "blacks never marry". Also unsupported by the evidence.
> 
> Posted and emailed.
> 
> JGB
> 
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown 

If Jeffrey gets his head any farther up my ass, he won't be able to breathe.

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec 14 10:12:17 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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> You haven't posted anything yet that supports your contention that 'blacks
> never marry'. You have to prove that there are no married blacks, because
> that's what you said.
> 
> As an educator, you would know this. Show us the facts, Weltner. Never
> mind the nasty remarks about me and my family; they are evasion, not
> evidence. Show us your facts.
> 
> Or... do the really courageous thing, and admit that you told a lie.
> Bigots do that, as we all know -- you will surprise no one.
> 
> Posted and emailed.
> 
> JGB
> 
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown 



      HERE ARE THE FACTS YOU ASKED FOR ON LOW BLACK MARRIAGE RATES...
     Not that your ugly catfish mouth will cease to blow its bubbles


Many babies born to teenage girls are fathered by adults
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SAN FRANCISCO (Nov 13, 1995 - 16:54 EST) -- A highly respected annual survey
of children's health and welfare issues says most babies born to Bay area
teenage girls are fathered by adult men.

The report, released Monday by the group Children Now, also notes that
homicide, especially killings involving firearms, has become the leading
cause of preventable deaths for California teenagers.

Teen pregnancy and homicides involving guns are "siren calls for concerted
community action" to reverse the trends, the report says.

Statewide, of infants whose paternity was reported, 66 percent had adult
fathers -- defined in the report as men 20 years old and older.

Of Bay Area counties, Marin had the highest rate of teen mothers bearing
children to adult fathers -- 72 percent in 1993, the most recent year for
which data were available. Solano County had the lowest percent of such
births, with 63 percent.

"All our social institutions ... must send a strong message to adult men
that taking advantage of the vulnerability of teenage girls is
unacceptable," said the Children Now report, "The California County Data
Book 1995."

"Young mothers are only half the story of teen births," the report said.
"Yet teen girls are burdened with all the financial and caretaking
responsibilities."

In the nine-county Bay Area, 8,328 babies were born to mothers ages 15
through 19 in 1993.

Babies born to teen moms come into the world disadvantaged: Studies show
that these infants are less likely to get important prenatal care and are
more likely to spend at least part of their lives on welfare.

The young mothers suffer, too, because they are less likely to finish high
school and thus they are limiting their chances to achieve their full
potential. They are more likely to live in poverty.

To reduce the number of teen births, the report recommended teaching
adolescent girls about their right to reject overtures by adult men. It also
urged parents to discuss with both boys and girls the financial and
caretaking responsibilities of having a child.

On violence, Children Now reported that California youth are more likely to
be murdered than to die in a car accident. A total of 2,577 children and
teens were slain statewide from 1991 to 1993. During the same period, 1,731
youths died in car accidents.

In the Bay Area, the disparity was most pronounced in San Francisco and
Alameda counties. In San Francisco, 40 children younger than 20 were
homicide victims during the period, and 12 died in vehicle accidents.

In Alameda County, 102 in the same age group died by homicide, the highest
total in Northern California and fifth in the state behind Los Angeles
(1,389), San Bernardino (160), San Diego (149) and Orange (139) counties.
Forty Alameda County youths died in car accidents during the period.

Children Now also compiled information on family income, dropout rates,
college preparedness, infant mortality, prenatal care, violent crime, child
abuse and child-support payments from each of the state's 58 counties.

The 8.6 million children in California make up 27 percent of the state
population. As of 1993, 43 percent of those children were white, 38 percent
Latino, 11 percent Asian American and 8 percent African American.

In San Francisco, the largest number of city children -- 35 percent -- are
Asian Americans. They are followed by whites, at 29 percent; Latinos, 19
percent; and African Americans, 17 percent.

San Francisco has the state's smallest proportion of children, representing
only 17 percent of the total population. In contrast, Merced County has the
largest proportion of children in the state, with 35 percent.

Of the city children, almost half (49.9 percent) live in low-income
families, defined as families with 185 percent of the income of the federal
poverty level. Marin County has the lowest proportion of low-income children
in the state, with 13.8 percent.

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec 14 10:22:20 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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Subject: Re: If Whites are so superior...
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I don't get this anti-Jew thing. After all Einstein was a Jew. A lot of
scientists are Jews. Many doctors are Jews.

What's the problem? These aren't scum. These are successful people. 

They have given the Western World far more than they have taken from it,
which is alot more than you can say about the blacks who take, take, take.

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec 14 10:22:21 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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Subject: Re: Nigger Summit
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In article , eraserhead@iglou2.iglou.com (David
Lynch) wrote:

> Frank Weltner (potato@mo.net) wrote:
> : In article <49q5ep$g63@cmcl2.NYU.EDU>, jch9334@is2.nyu.edu (Kid Ginsu)
wrote:
> 
> : > Col. Sphinx Drummond (sphinx1@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
> : > : Fuck you and your racist friends. There is a lot of niggers that make
> : > : more money than you or I, Whitey. 'Sides there more of us white folk on
> : > : the dole than niggers. You homo.
> : > 
> : "'Sides.'"
> 
> : This guy eats ribs, right?
> 
> You can eat my hairy shit-encrusted dick with a side order of delicious 
> Denny's hash browns and lick my asshole clean before you swallow, Frank. 
> BTW, have you ever tried real BBQ ribs? They're pretty damned good. 

Sir, please. I shall not do this for you, sir, no matter how much you beg,
sir. Others, sir, have been trained for this type of bondage building
behavior, sir, but not I, sir. Goodbye, sir.

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec 14 10:22:22 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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Subject: Re: Weltner's wife gets Black dick, AND SAYS "IT WAS GOOD"
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In article <4afjaf$idb@news.ais.net>, scallon@pyrotechnics.com (Brendan J.
F. Scallon) wrote:

> So Frankie baby,
> 
> I heard that your wife has left you for a brother.  So are you back to
> fornicating those sows in your back yard?  Well, how would you like it
> that while your wife is getting a Black dick, a sistah's hand is carres-
> sing your ass (wait a minute, that's my ass getting grabbed and why are
> those two hard things against my back, wait a minute those are breasts;
> anyway, who would even give the Couch Potato the time of day?)
> 
> Are you so much against integration because you are afraid that you
> could end up race-mixing and having children with brown faces?  Well
> that's exactly what your wife is doing now, bringing forth beautiful
> biracial children.
> 
I don't fear you. I pity you.

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec 14 10:22:22 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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Subject: Re: What is so bad about intermarriage?
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In article <4afk6t$idb@news.ais.net>, scallon@pyrotechnics.com (Brendan J.
F. Scallon) wrote:

> I would like to ask a simple question.  Would the only reasons to marry
> be to bring forth white children?  I must admit, sometimes I try to ask
> white women out just for the sake of finding me a token white woman, but
> there are a lot of differences in interests.  Some of the white women
> call my favorite music "(n) music" tend to be stuck up and are inhaling
> the vapors of neofeminism while stating their hold on me because of the
> color of my skin.  As an Irish-American, I know too well that some of
> these women might have been descended from the slavemasters of my people
> (i.e. Anglo-Saxons) and now in 1995, they say that I have a bond to them
> symbolized by the color of my skin.  I try fellow Irish-Americans, but
> some of them have the Green outside/Orange inside mentality and kowtow
> to the white supremacist agenda (that never showed an inkling of respect
> for my people.  Remember the NINA signs until the 1960s.)  The laws
> that banned miscegenation was just another ploy to implement this filthy
> white supremacist agenda, one that has a history of anti-Irish bigotry.
> 
> In conclusion, yes I have dated women who fail the brown paper bag test,
> much less more the Hershey bar test, SO WHAT!!!  There are no prohibit-
> ions against it in the Bible and my religion (Catholicism); it is a
> challenge to raise biracial children in a white supremacist environment,
> but with a little education and some discipline, it will suffice.
> 
> --
> Brendan John Francis Scallon

Brendan. This is your own business. I am so happy for your rebellious
attitude. When you grow up, you will understand. Being young and
idealistic, it is fun to swim in the "freedom" of exuberance, sow wild
oats in wierd places, and think that you are the first person in the world
to ever have been so bold. As a matter of fact, many black women have
always found white men very desireable. In the slave times, black girls
used to line up to get their share of the overseer, because of his status,
intelligence, and whiteness. They all wanted some. So, enjoy. Sow your
wild oats. After you see what these blacks are like in the ghetto, how low
class, how ignorant, how uncivil, you will, if you survive that discovery,
come to wonder what you ever saw in this little charade of terror you are
dipping your soul into. Until then, enjoy.

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec 14 10:22:23 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article <30CB003E.1DA9@aimnet.com>, George Graves 
wrote:

> Frank Weltner wrote:
> > 
> > > * >Scenario #1:
> > > *
> > > * >You go to a restaurant with about eight people of both sexes.  You join
> > > * >one of the conversations at the table, which soon dies as its
participants
> > > * >move to other conversations.  You try talking to the people
sitting next
> > > * >to you, but after asking them their name and occupation the
conversation
> > > * >dies.
> > 
> > Final Scenario:
> > 
> > Try this. You find a girl and you cum inside her. Then, you find another.
> > You cum inside her. Then, you find another. You cum inside her. Then, you
> > find another. You cum inside her. What do you have?
> > 
> > Life is a bitch.
> > 
> Certainly a very active and what, in some quarters, would be described
> as a very successful sex life. You would also probably have, at the very
> least, a "social disease" and at the very worst AIDS.
> 
> George Graves

That's an excellent guess. However, being a vibrant and virile white man,
I changed by lifestyle choices as soon as I heard about AIDS. Although
hundreds of thousands didn't change their sexual lusts and protect their
wondrous dicks from the green monkey dong disease and the rushing crush of
fast death, especially niggers who are dying in droves, I, being a wise
white man, ceased my endless tastings of women's hidden and cavernous,
mythical parts and became a perfectly chaste white man, albeit with the
occasional roll through the sheets using a vast array of sexual
lubricants, chemicals, rubbers, and safe sex methods.

And praise be to Jesus for the insights which He hath given me on account
of my larger brain and the capacity to adapt to worldly hazards. Thank
you, Jesus.

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec 14 10:22:24 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article ,
jeff_brown@pol.com (Jeffrey G. Brown) wrote:

> In article , potato@mo.net
> (Frank Weltner) wrote:
> 
> > (I know what you were TRYING to say in your statement and I give you some
> > points for TRYING at all, but TRYING doesn't make it true, either.)
> 
> Kinda like "Blacks never marry", isn't it?
> 
> We all know what you were TRYING to say, Weltner, but TRYING doesn't make
> it true.
> 
> Posted and emailed.
> 
> JGB
> 

Q: What's the only difference between fucking a nigger and a sheep?

A: The sheep tries to get away.

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec 14 10:22:25 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article ,
jeff_brown@pol.com (Jeffrey G. Brown) wrote:

> In article , potato@mo.net
> (Frank Weltner) wrote:
> 
> > It is a right only to be treated as another's equal in the eyes of the
> > law. No one should be unfairly villified on account of his skin color or
> > religion.
> 
> What hypocrisy. This is the same Frank Weltner who said (in article
> :
> 
> > However, it doesn't answer why God made
> > Negroes black and Europeans and Asians white. He did it so that we could
> > tell in just one glance who was likely to be dumb and who was likely to be
> > smart. It's simple. 
> 
> In other words, Weltner can glance at a black man and vilify him as
> "dumb". That's pretty simple, all right. It also puts the lie to Weltner's
> self-serving blather about "No one should be unfairly villified on account
> of his skin color".
> 
> > However, those blacks who are intelligent, hard working, energetic, and
> > committed to success, who are just as smart and educated as whites based
> > on true talents, are as welcome as whites anywhere. They are respected by
> > whites, too.
> 
> Respected by whites like Weltner? No such luck. Observe:
> 
> (from article ):
> 
> > Blacks are just dumb. It's not a big deal. They have eyeballs and dicks
> > and pussies like whites. They can function some.
> 
> That's a hell of a way to express your 'respect', isn't it? Let's look at
> another example:
> 
> (from article ):
> 
> > You like niggers enough to feed them, house them, put up with their lazy
> > bullshit? Why? It was a losing economic proposition then, and it still is.
> > Just leave them alone. They are worthless shit even as chattle.
> 
> Yup, Weltner just drips with respect for blacks -- or, as he respectfully
> refers to them, "niggers". 
> 
> Tell us again all about your 'ideals', Weltner, and just how hypocrisy
> became one of them.
> 
> Posted and emailed.
> 
> JGB
> 
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown                                   jeff_brown@pol.com
>  "What's going to happen?"   "Something wonderful..."   -- '2010'
> *Mailed replies to Usenet posts will not be considered confidential.*

I apologize for Jeffrey G. Brown, ladies and gentlemen. He has nothing
else to do but adopt Frank Weltner and compose overly obvious blather,
posing as a kind of schlock referree, as though this is some type of
midnight basketball.

If he continues, I shall have to look into the possibility that Jeffrey
wants to be a "kept boy" or "fem-Mensch" for someone like me. 

Not being in that particular persuasion, I may not be up to handling him
in that fem-Mensch manner; however, praise be to God, my chihuahua, Frito,
tells me that he will.

Now I am looking a Frito very strangely.

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec 14 10:22:26 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power
Subject: Re: Evidence FOR Racial Equality??
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In article <4aj9gr$rcn@piano.synapse.net>, rvanderkam@synapse.net (Rob
Vanderkam) wrote:

> (Frank Weltner) wrote:
> 
> > Well, this sound awfully good. However, it doesn't answer why God made
> > Negroes black and Europeans and Asians white. He did it so that we could
> > tell in just one glance who was likely to be dumb and who was likely to be
> > smart. It's simple. 
> > 
> > After all, if nothing else, God is ominsicient and logical.
> 
> 
> If there is a god, it didn't make people different colours so we
> could see who is smart or dumb. It did it as a result of human
> migration to different envirornments.
>  
> Rob Vanderkam

So, if I move to Africa, I will become black? Um. Maybe I better not go
there this Labor Day. Shucks. And I was so looking forward to seeing all
those fucking apes and monkeys in Soweto sitting around farting and
wearing clothes. I was even collecting bananas for them. I was going to
disguise myself as a liberal by pasting a smile to my face to hide the
clothes pin on my nose to quiesce the 3rd world Willie Mandela stench and
the whirl of spears.

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec 14 10:22:26 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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Subject: Re: Just a test.
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In article <30CBF476.55D3@scott.net>, evil Beavis  wrote:

> I am just trying to see what this Netscape 2.0 thing looks like.
> 
> eB

                    It looks alot better than you do.

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec 14 10:22:27 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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> >Don't laugh. Jesus started with only twelve members.
> >
> >-- 
> >
>    Yes, but Jesus wasn't an asshole, whereas you are. Jesus is credited with 
> including all men in the kingdom of God, whereas you are reviled for claiming 
> it for only narrow-minded simpletons like yourself. And last but not least - 
> Jesus was love and light, whereas you are hate and darkness. Have a crappy 
> day.
>                                                            Byte me.

My, my! We need our medication changed, don't we? Maybe 8 Prozac instead of 7?

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec 14 10:22:28 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.politics.white-power,alt.discrimination
Subject: Re: Hey, Civilized Man...
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In article <4ak4t0$5a@news2.ucsd.edu>, fledgist@weber.ucsd.edu (Fragano
Ledgister) wrote:

> Les Griswold (bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
> : ... while you're drooling over negro achievements and contributions, would
> : you care to comment on two of the largest contributions from Africa?  I'm
> : talking, of course, about AIDS and Ebola.
> 
> : Les
> 
> The relevance of this to anything is not clear.
> 
When hemorraghic blood begins to ooe from your exploding eyes and bubbling
ears and puke red blood is vomited from your dissolving tongue and gums,
everything said here will come clear to you. It might be, shall we say, a
beatific vision, wild, painful, vivid, and, finally, eternal. Oh, this
mortal coil.

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec 14 10:22:29 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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Subject: Re: HUMOROUS
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In article , bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA
(Les Griswold) wrote:

> Marcus W. Marlow (marlow@scsn.net) writes:
> > In article ,
> >    potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner) wrote:
> >>In article <4a90op$kv8@decaxp.harvard.edu>, slking@scws34.harvard.edu
> >>(Stewart King) wrote:
> >>
> >>> Frank Weltner (potato@mo.net) wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> : Jesse Jackson:  I always feel better when I am walking alone at 
> >>> : night, and, if I hear someone following me, I turn around and see 
> >>> : it's a white man. 
> >>> 
> >>> I think he should worry - that's a pretty weird white man anyway.  
> >>>I'm trying to think of reasons I would want to follow Jesse Jackson 
> >>>down the street late at night and I'm just not coming up with any.
> >>> 
> >>Well, if you are white, he will tell you how much he likes you even if 
> >>he doesn't. How about that for a reason?
> >>
> > 
> >       I think Mr. Weltner has done a good job here of pointing out a 
> > great truth:  99% of the liberals you meet will all be hypocrites.
> > 
> >       In Service,
> > 
> >       Col. Marcus W. Marlow
> > 
> >       "Working around the CLOC for the White Race"
> 
> Jesse Jackson used to spit in the food of White people when he was working
> as a waiter, and bragged about it.  
> 
> Les

A true gentleman and a kind representative of his race. Ladies and
gentleman, I am proud to present Jesse Jackson. But first, Mr. Jackson,
will you be so kind as to spit on my tube steak? Thank you. And, if I
cover it with crushed bananas, will you eat it, too? Thank you, sir! And
now, a true gentleman....

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec 14 10:22:30 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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> 
> > (if negro families are even formed at all, which is unlikely). 
> 
> The Weltner assertion: "blacks never marry". Also unsupported by the evidence.
> 
> Posted and emailed.
> 
> JGB
> 
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown 

If Jeffrey gets his head any farther up my ass, he won't be able to breathe.

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec 14 10:22:31 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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> You haven't posted anything yet that supports your contention that 'blacks
> never marry'. You have to prove that there are no married blacks, because
> that's what you said.
> 
> As an educator, you would know this. Show us the facts, Weltner. Never
> mind the nasty remarks about me and my family; they are evasion, not
> evidence. Show us your facts.
> 
> Or... do the really courageous thing, and admit that you told a lie.
> Bigots do that, as we all know -- you will surprise no one.
> 
> Posted and emailed.
> 
> JGB
> 
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown 



      HERE ARE THE FACTS YOU ASKED FOR ON LOW BLACK MARRIAGE RATES...
     Not that your ugly catfish mouth will cease to blow its bubbles


Many babies born to teenage girls are fathered by adults
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SAN FRANCISCO (Nov 13, 1995 - 16:54 EST) -- A highly respected annual survey
of children's health and welfare issues says most babies born to Bay area
teenage girls are fathered by adult men.

The report, released Monday by the group Children Now, also notes that
homicide, especially killings involving firearms, has become the leading
cause of preventable deaths for California teenagers.

Teen pregnancy and homicides involving guns are "siren calls for concerted
community action" to reverse the trends, the report says.

Statewide, of infants whose paternity was reported, 66 percent had adult
fathers -- defined in the report as men 20 years old and older.

Of Bay Area counties, Marin had the highest rate of teen mothers bearing
children to adult fathers -- 72 percent in 1993, the most recent year for
which data were available. Solano County had the lowest percent of such
births, with 63 percent.

"All our social institutions ... must send a strong message to adult men
that taking advantage of the vulnerability of teenage girls is
unacceptable," said the Children Now report, "The California County Data
Book 1995."

"Young mothers are only half the story of teen births," the report said.
"Yet teen girls are burdened with all the financial and caretaking
responsibilities."

In the nine-county Bay Area, 8,328 babies were born to mothers ages 15
through 19 in 1993.

Babies born to teen moms come into the world disadvantaged: Studies show
that these infants are less likely to get important prenatal care and are
more likely to spend at least part of their lives on welfare.

The young mothers suffer, too, because they are less likely to finish high
school and thus they are limiting their chances to achieve their full
potential. They are more likely to live in poverty.

To reduce the number of teen births, the report recommended teaching
adolescent girls about their right to reject overtures by adult men. It also
urged parents to discuss with both boys and girls the financial and
caretaking responsibilities of having a child.

On violence, Children Now reported that California youth are more likely to
be murdered than to die in a car accident. A total of 2,577 children and
teens were slain statewide from 1991 to 1993. During the same period, 1,731
youths died in car accidents.

In the Bay Area, the disparity was most pronounced in San Francisco and
Alameda counties. In San Francisco, 40 children younger than 20 were
homicide victims during the period, and 12 died in vehicle accidents.

In Alameda County, 102 in the same age group died by homicide, the highest
total in Northern California and fifth in the state behind Los Angeles
(1,389), San Bernardino (160), San Diego (149) and Orange (139) counties.
Forty Alameda County youths died in car accidents during the period.

Children Now also compiled information on family income, dropout rates,
college preparedness, infant mortality, prenatal care, violent crime, child
abuse and child-support payments from each of the state's 58 counties.

The 8.6 million children in California make up 27 percent of the state
population. As of 1993, 43 percent of those children were white, 38 percent
Latino, 11 percent Asian American and 8 percent African American.

In San Francisco, the largest number of city children -- 35 percent -- are
Asian Americans. They are followed by whites, at 29 percent; Latinos, 19
percent; and African Americans, 17 percent.

San Francisco has the state's smallest proportion of children, representing
only 17 percent of the total population. In contrast, Merced County has the
largest proportion of children in the state, with 35 percent.

Of the city children, almost half (49.9 percent) live in low-income
families, defined as families with 185 percent of the income of the federal
poverty level. Marin County has the lowest proportion of low-income children
in the state, with 13.8 percent.

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec 14 12:55:45 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power
Subject: Re: If Whites are so superior...
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I don't get this anti-Jew thing. After all Einstein was a Jew. A lot of
scientists are Jews. Many doctors are Jews.

What's the problem? These aren't scum. These are successful people. 

They have given the Western World far more than they have taken from it,
which is alot more than you can say about the blacks who take, take, take.

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec 14 12:55:46 PST 1995
Article: 10599 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power,alt.slack
Subject: Re: Nigger Summit
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In article , eraserhead@iglou2.iglou.com (David
Lynch) wrote:

> Frank Weltner (potato@mo.net) wrote:
> : In article <49q5ep$g63@cmcl2.NYU.EDU>, jch9334@is2.nyu.edu (Kid Ginsu)
wrote:
> 
> : > Col. Sphinx Drummond (sphinx1@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
> : > : Fuck you and your racist friends. There is a lot of niggers that make
> : > : more money than you or I, Whitey. 'Sides there more of us white folk on
> : > : the dole than niggers. You homo.
> : > 
> : "'Sides.'"
> 
> : This guy eats ribs, right?
> 
> You can eat my hairy shit-encrusted dick with a side order of delicious 
> Denny's hash browns and lick my asshole clean before you swallow, Frank. 
> BTW, have you ever tried real BBQ ribs? They're pretty damned good. 

Sir, please. I shall not do this for you, sir, no matter how much you beg,
sir. Others, sir, have been trained for this type of bondage building
behavior, sir, but not I, sir. Goodbye, sir.

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec 14 12:55:46 PST 1995
Article: 10600 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power
Subject: Re: Weltner's wife gets Black dick, AND SAYS "IT WAS GOOD"
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In article <4afjaf$idb@news.ais.net>, scallon@pyrotechnics.com (Brendan J.
F. Scallon) wrote:

> So Frankie baby,
> 
> I heard that your wife has left you for a brother.  So are you back to
> fornicating those sows in your back yard?  Well, how would you like it
> that while your wife is getting a Black dick, a sistah's hand is carres-
> sing your ass (wait a minute, that's my ass getting grabbed and why are
> those two hard things against my back, wait a minute those are breasts;
> anyway, who would even give the Couch Potato the time of day?)
> 
> Are you so much against integration because you are afraid that you
> could end up race-mixing and having children with brown faces?  Well
> that's exactly what your wife is doing now, bringing forth beautiful
> biracial children.
> 
I don't fear you. I pity you.

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec 14 12:55:47 PST 1995
Article: 10601 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power
Subject: Re: What is so bad about intermarriage?
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In article <4afk6t$idb@news.ais.net>, scallon@pyrotechnics.com (Brendan J.
F. Scallon) wrote:

> I would like to ask a simple question.  Would the only reasons to marry
> be to bring forth white children?  I must admit, sometimes I try to ask
> white women out just for the sake of finding me a token white woman, but
> there are a lot of differences in interests.  Some of the white women
> call my favorite music "(n) music" tend to be stuck up and are inhaling
> the vapors of neofeminism while stating their hold on me because of the
> color of my skin.  As an Irish-American, I know too well that some of
> these women might have been descended from the slavemasters of my people
> (i.e. Anglo-Saxons) and now in 1995, they say that I have a bond to them
> symbolized by the color of my skin.  I try fellow Irish-Americans, but
> some of them have the Green outside/Orange inside mentality and kowtow
> to the white supremacist agenda (that never showed an inkling of respect
> for my people.  Remember the NINA signs until the 1960s.)  The laws
> that banned miscegenation was just another ploy to implement this filthy
> white supremacist agenda, one that has a history of anti-Irish bigotry.
> 
> In conclusion, yes I have dated women who fail the brown paper bag test,
> much less more the Hershey bar test, SO WHAT!!!  There are no prohibit-
> ions against it in the Bible and my religion (Catholicism); it is a
> challenge to raise biracial children in a white supremacist environment,
> but with a little education and some discipline, it will suffice.
> 
> --
> Brendan John Francis Scallon

Brendan. This is your own business. I am so happy for your rebellious
attitude. When you grow up, you will understand. Being young and
idealistic, it is fun to swim in the "freedom" of exuberance, sow wild
oats in wierd places, and think that you are the first person in the world
to ever have been so bold. As a matter of fact, many black women have
always found white men very desireable. In the slave times, black girls
used to line up to get their share of the overseer, because of his status,
intelligence, and whiteness. They all wanted some. So, enjoy. Sow your
wild oats. After you see what these blacks are like in the ghetto, how low
class, how ignorant, how uncivil, you will, if you survive that discovery,
come to wonder what you ever saw in this little charade of terror you are
dipping your soul into. Until then, enjoy.

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec 14 12:55:48 PST 1995
Article: 10603 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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Subject: Re: The Art of Conversation
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In article <30CB003E.1DA9@aimnet.com>, George Graves 
wrote:

> Frank Weltner wrote:
> > 
> > > * >Scenario #1:
> > > *
> > > * >You go to a restaurant with about eight people of both sexes.  You join
> > > * >one of the conversations at the table, which soon dies as its
participants
> > > * >move to other conversations.  You try talking to the people
sitting next
> > > * >to you, but after asking them their name and occupation the
conversation
> > > * >dies.
> > 
> > Final Scenario:
> > 
> > Try this. You find a girl and you cum inside her. Then, you find another.
> > You cum inside her. Then, you find another. You cum inside her. Then, you
> > find another. You cum inside her. What do you have?
> > 
> > Life is a bitch.
> > 
> Certainly a very active and what, in some quarters, would be described
> as a very successful sex life. You would also probably have, at the very
> least, a "social disease" and at the very worst AIDS.
> 
> George Graves

That's an excellent guess. However, being a vibrant and virile white man,
I changed by lifestyle choices as soon as I heard about AIDS. Although
hundreds of thousands didn't change their sexual lusts and protect their
wondrous dicks from the green monkey dong disease and the rushing crush of
fast death, especially niggers who are dying in droves, I, being a wise
white man, ceased my endless tastings of women's hidden and cavernous,
mythical parts and became a perfectly chaste white man, albeit with the
occasional roll through the sheets using a vast array of sexual
lubricants, chemicals, rubbers, and safe sex methods.

And praise be to Jesus for the insights which He hath given me on account
of my larger brain and the capacity to adapt to worldly hazards. Thank
you, Jesus.

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec 14 12:55:49 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article ,
jeff_brown@pol.com (Jeffrey G. Brown) wrote:

> In article , potato@mo.net
> (Frank Weltner) wrote:
> 
> > (I know what you were TRYING to say in your statement and I give you some
> > points for TRYING at all, but TRYING doesn't make it true, either.)
> 
> Kinda like "Blacks never marry", isn't it?
> 
> We all know what you were TRYING to say, Weltner, but TRYING doesn't make
> it true.
> 
> Posted and emailed.
> 
> JGB
> 

Q: What's the only difference between fucking a nigger and a sheep?

A: The sheep tries to get away.

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec 14 12:55:50 PST 1995
Article: 10610 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article ,
jeff_brown@pol.com (Jeffrey G. Brown) wrote:

> In article , potato@mo.net
> (Frank Weltner) wrote:
> 
> > It is a right only to be treated as another's equal in the eyes of the
> > law. No one should be unfairly villified on account of his skin color or
> > religion.
> 
> What hypocrisy. This is the same Frank Weltner who said (in article
> :
> 
> > However, it doesn't answer why God made
> > Negroes black and Europeans and Asians white. He did it so that we could
> > tell in just one glance who was likely to be dumb and who was likely to be
> > smart. It's simple. 
> 
> In other words, Weltner can glance at a black man and vilify him as
> "dumb". That's pretty simple, all right. It also puts the lie to Weltner's
> self-serving blather about "No one should be unfairly villified on account
> of his skin color".
> 
> > However, those blacks who are intelligent, hard working, energetic, and
> > committed to success, who are just as smart and educated as whites based
> > on true talents, are as welcome as whites anywhere. They are respected by
> > whites, too.
> 
> Respected by whites like Weltner? No such luck. Observe:
> 
> (from article ):
> 
> > Blacks are just dumb. It's not a big deal. They have eyeballs and dicks
> > and pussies like whites. They can function some.
> 
> That's a hell of a way to express your 'respect', isn't it? Let's look at
> another example:
> 
> (from article ):
> 
> > You like niggers enough to feed them, house them, put up with their lazy
> > bullshit? Why? It was a losing economic proposition then, and it still is.
> > Just leave them alone. They are worthless shit even as chattle.
> 
> Yup, Weltner just drips with respect for blacks -- or, as he respectfully
> refers to them, "niggers". 
> 
> Tell us again all about your 'ideals', Weltner, and just how hypocrisy
> became one of them.
> 
> Posted and emailed.
> 
> JGB
> 
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown                                   jeff_brown@pol.com
>  "What's going to happen?"   "Something wonderful..."   -- '2010'
> *Mailed replies to Usenet posts will not be considered confidential.*

I apologize for Jeffrey G. Brown, ladies and gentlemen. He has nothing
else to do but adopt Frank Weltner and compose overly obvious blather,
posing as a kind of schlock referree, as though this is some type of
midnight basketball.

If he continues, I shall have to look into the possibility that Jeffrey
wants to be a "kept boy" or "fem-Mensch" for someone like me. 

Not being in that particular persuasion, I may not be up to handling him
in that fem-Mensch manner; however, praise be to God, my chihuahua, Frito,
tells me that he will.

Now I am looking a Frito very strangely.

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec 14 12:55:50 PST 1995
Article: 10615 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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Subject: Re: Evidence FOR Racial Equality??
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In article <4aj9gr$rcn@piano.synapse.net>, rvanderkam@synapse.net (Rob
Vanderkam) wrote:

> (Frank Weltner) wrote:
> 
> > Well, this sound awfully good. However, it doesn't answer why God made
> > Negroes black and Europeans and Asians white. He did it so that we could
> > tell in just one glance who was likely to be dumb and who was likely to be
> > smart. It's simple. 
> > 
> > After all, if nothing else, God is ominsicient and logical.
> 
> 
> If there is a god, it didn't make people different colours so we
> could see who is smart or dumb. It did it as a result of human
> migration to different envirornments.
>  
> Rob Vanderkam

So, if I move to Africa, I will become black? Um. Maybe I better not go
there this Labor Day. Shucks. And I was so looking forward to seeing all
those fucking apes and monkeys in Soweto sitting around farting and
wearing clothes. I was even collecting bananas for them. I was going to
disguise myself as a liberal by pasting a smile to my face to hide the
clothes pin on my nose to quiesce the 3rd world Willie Mandela stench and
the whirl of spears.

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec 14 12:55:51 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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Subject: Re: Just a test.
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In article <30CBF476.55D3@scott.net>, evil Beavis  wrote:

> I am just trying to see what this Netscape 2.0 thing looks like.
> 
> eB

                    It looks alot better than you do.

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec 14 12:55:52 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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> >Don't laugh. Jesus started with only twelve members.
> >
> >-- 
> >
>    Yes, but Jesus wasn't an asshole, whereas you are. Jesus is credited with 
> including all men in the kingdom of God, whereas you are reviled for claiming 
> it for only narrow-minded simpletons like yourself. And last but not least - 
> Jesus was love and light, whereas you are hate and darkness. Have a crappy 
> day.
>                                                            Byte me.

My, my! We need our medication changed, don't we? Maybe 8 Prozac instead of 7?

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec 14 12:55:53 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article <4ak4t0$5a@news2.ucsd.edu>, fledgist@weber.ucsd.edu (Fragano
Ledgister) wrote:

> Les Griswold (bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
> : ... while you're drooling over negro achievements and contributions, would
> : you care to comment on two of the largest contributions from Africa?  I'm
> : talking, of course, about AIDS and Ebola.
> 
> : Les
> 
> The relevance of this to anything is not clear.
> 
When hemorraghic blood begins to ooe from your exploding eyes and bubbling
ears and puke red blood is vomited from your dissolving tongue and gums,
everything said here will come clear to you. It might be, shall we say, a
beatific vision, wild, painful, vivid, and, finally, eternal. Oh, this
mortal coil.

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec 14 12:55:53 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article , bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA
(Les Griswold) wrote:

> Marcus W. Marlow (marlow@scsn.net) writes:
> > In article ,
> >    potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner) wrote:
> >>In article <4a90op$kv8@decaxp.harvard.edu>, slking@scws34.harvard.edu
> >>(Stewart King) wrote:
> >>
> >>> Frank Weltner (potato@mo.net) wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> : Jesse Jackson:  I always feel better when I am walking alone at 
> >>> : night, and, if I hear someone following me, I turn around and see 
> >>> : it's a white man. 
> >>> 
> >>> I think he should worry - that's a pretty weird white man anyway.  
> >>>I'm trying to think of reasons I would want to follow Jesse Jackson 
> >>>down the street late at night and I'm just not coming up with any.
> >>> 
> >>Well, if you are white, he will tell you how much he likes you even if 
> >>he doesn't. How about that for a reason?
> >>
> > 
> >       I think Mr. Weltner has done a good job here of pointing out a 
> > great truth:  99% of the liberals you meet will all be hypocrites.
> > 
> >       In Service,
> > 
> >       Col. Marcus W. Marlow
> > 
> >       "Working around the CLOC for the White Race"
> 
> Jesse Jackson used to spit in the food of White people when he was working
> as a waiter, and bragged about it.  
> 
> Les

A true gentleman and a kind representative of his race. Ladies and
gentleman, I am proud to present Jesse Jackson. But first, Mr. Jackson,
will you be so kind as to spit on my tube steak? Thank you. And, if I
cover it with crushed bananas, will you eat it, too? Thank you, sir! And
now, a true gentleman....

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec 14 12:55:54 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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> 
> > (if negro families are even formed at all, which is unlikely). 
> 
> The Weltner assertion: "blacks never marry". Also unsupported by the evidence.
> 
> Posted and emailed.
> 
> JGB
> 
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown 

If Jeffrey gets his head any farther up my ass, he won't be able to breathe.

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec 14 12:55:55 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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> You haven't posted anything yet that supports your contention that 'blacks
> never marry'. You have to prove that there are no married blacks, because
> that's what you said.
> 
> As an educator, you would know this. Show us the facts, Weltner. Never
> mind the nasty remarks about me and my family; they are evasion, not
> evidence. Show us your facts.
> 
> Or... do the really courageous thing, and admit that you told a lie.
> Bigots do that, as we all know -- you will surprise no one.
> 
> Posted and emailed.
> 
> JGB
> 
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown 



      HERE ARE THE FACTS YOU ASKED FOR ON LOW BLACK MARRIAGE RATES...
     Not that your ugly catfish mouth will cease to blow its bubbles


Many babies born to teenage girls are fathered by adults
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(c) 1995 Copyright Nando.net
(c) 1995 N.Y. Times News Service

SAN FRANCISCO (Nov 13, 1995 - 16:54 EST) -- A highly respected annual survey
of children's health and welfare issues says most babies born to Bay area
teenage girls are fathered by adult men.

The report, released Monday by the group Children Now, also notes that
homicide, especially killings involving firearms, has become the leading
cause of preventable deaths for California teenagers.

Teen pregnancy and homicides involving guns are "siren calls for concerted
community action" to reverse the trends, the report says.

Statewide, of infants whose paternity was reported, 66 percent had adult
fathers -- defined in the report as men 20 years old and older.

Of Bay Area counties, Marin had the highest rate of teen mothers bearing
children to adult fathers -- 72 percent in 1993, the most recent year for
which data were available. Solano County had the lowest percent of such
births, with 63 percent.

"All our social institutions ... must send a strong message to adult men
that taking advantage of the vulnerability of teenage girls is
unacceptable," said the Children Now report, "The California County Data
Book 1995."

"Young mothers are only half the story of teen births," the report said.
"Yet teen girls are burdened with all the financial and caretaking
responsibilities."

In the nine-county Bay Area, 8,328 babies were born to mothers ages 15
through 19 in 1993.

Babies born to teen moms come into the world disadvantaged: Studies show
that these infants are less likely to get important prenatal care and are
more likely to spend at least part of their lives on welfare.

The young mothers suffer, too, because they are less likely to finish high
school and thus they are limiting their chances to achieve their full
potential. They are more likely to live in poverty.

To reduce the number of teen births, the report recommended teaching
adolescent girls about their right to reject overtures by adult men. It also
urged parents to discuss with both boys and girls the financial and
caretaking responsibilities of having a child.

On violence, Children Now reported that California youth are more likely to
be murdered than to die in a car accident. A total of 2,577 children and
teens were slain statewide from 1991 to 1993. During the same period, 1,731
youths died in car accidents.

In the Bay Area, the disparity was most pronounced in San Francisco and
Alameda counties. In San Francisco, 40 children younger than 20 were
homicide victims during the period, and 12 died in vehicle accidents.

In Alameda County, 102 in the same age group died by homicide, the highest
total in Northern California and fifth in the state behind Los Angeles
(1,389), San Bernardino (160), San Diego (149) and Orange (139) counties.
Forty Alameda County youths died in car accidents during the period.

Children Now also compiled information on family income, dropout rates,
college preparedness, infant mortality, prenatal care, violent crime, child
abuse and child-support payments from each of the state's 58 counties.

The 8.6 million children in California make up 27 percent of the state
population. As of 1993, 43 percent of those children were white, 38 percent
Latino, 11 percent Asian American and 8 percent African American.

In San Francisco, the largest number of city children -- 35 percent -- are
Asian Americans. They are followed by whites, at 29 percent; Latinos, 19
percent; and African Americans, 17 percent.

San Francisco has the state's smallest proportion of children, representing
only 17 percent of the total population. In contrast, Merced County has the
largest proportion of children in the state, with 35 percent.

Of the city children, almost half (49.9 percent) live in low-income
families, defined as families with 185 percent of the income of the federal
poverty level. Marin County has the lowest proportion of low-income children
in the state, with 13.8 percent.

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec 14 19:15:14 PST 1995
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Rush is only fat because he has a portable Mac with the Mac OS which is
fully capable of utilizing software constructed with fat binaries. 


Help me. 


My medication isn't working.

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From potato@mo.net Thu Dec 14 19:30:34 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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> Where is it written that once material is posted on the Internet, the
> copyright holder loses the rights to control its dissemination?
> 
> Perhaps some factual basis for Weltner's rather odd views of copyright law
> would be useful. At the moment, none is in evidence.
> 
> Posted and emailed.
> 
> JGB
> 
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown

Jeffrey, move your tongue to the left side of my asshole. Ah. That's
better. Okay, go on. Sucking action. Ah. Ah. Ah.

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From potato@mo.net Fri Dec 15 07:20:05 PST 1995
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In article , anakin@pinc.com
(Rajiv K. Gandhi) wrote:

> In article , potato@mo.net
> (Frank Weltner) wrote:
> 
> > > > For the benefit of you race-conscious Aryan/Atlanteans: No, I don't have
> > > > the honour of being Indian, but I'm learning the language, which is
> > > > *astoundingly* beautiful. 
> > > 
> > Why don't you leave and learn it quietly. You'd have more fun with it in
> > Calcutta, especially after the nice little peaceable Hindu boy, Kim, cuts
> > your nice white throat.
> 
> Ignorance is your strong suit, I see. Hindi is not the prevalent language
> in Calcutta. That would be Punjabi. You would be better of going to Delhi
> or Bombay if your sole intention was to practice your Hindi language
> skills. Furthermore, cutting throats is not something at which I excel
> (although I have on occasion, done so in my anatomy class.) I would rather
> let you Aryan/Atlantean-superiority-types inbreed yourself into oblivion.

It is the niggers who are doing that and the 3rd world idiots who have
nothing in life to do but fuck and sqwat and eat. India is a piece of
total shit where people like to slice each other ear to ear for a dime.

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From potato@mo.net Fri Dec 15 07:20:06 PST 1995
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In article , anakin@pinc.com
(Rajiv K. Gandhi) wrote:

> In article , potato@mo.net
> (Frank Weltner) wrote:
> 
> > > > For the benefit of you race-conscious Aryan/Atlanteans: No, I don't have
> > > > the honour of being Indian, but I'm learning the language, which is
> > > > *astoundingly* beautiful. 
> > > 
> > Why don't you leave and learn it quietly. You'd have more fun with it in
> > Calcutta, especially after the nice little peaceable Hindu boy, Kim, cuts
> > your nice white throat.
> 
> Ignorance is your strong suit, I see. Hindi is not the prevalent language
> in Calcutta. That would be Punjabi. You would be better of going to Delhi
> or Bombay if your sole intention was to practice your Hindi language
> skills. Furthermore, cutting throats is not something at which I excel
> (although I have on occasion, done so in my anatomy class.) I would rather
> let you Aryan/Atlantean-superiority-types inbreed yourself into oblivion.
> 
Well, raghead, I don't really give a shit what you call it. It isn't
English, so I don't care. These little Indo Languages are just for
bargaining for curry powder in the marketplace and spending your time
building shitty temples to quasi-godlets with big long titties. What a
deal.

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From potato@mo.net Fri Dec 15 07:20:06 PST 1995
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In article , anakin@pinc.com
(Rajiv K. Gandhi) wrote:

> > Listen, Rajiv, you are a nice little intellecutal raghead. 
> 
> Once again, your ignorance shines through - the 'rags' that a Sikh might
> wear are not rags at all. In fact they are often made of the finest
> materials available. Simple in design, but very fine cloth. I by the way,
> do not wear a turban. There is no such thing as an 'intellecutal.'
> 
I wipe my ass on their turbans.

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From potato@mo.net Fri Dec 15 07:20:07 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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You know, Stewart,I love your signature. (Tourrette's Syndrome is quite nice.)

> Stewart King -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- http://fas-www.harvard.edu/~slking -
> 
>  "That leaves: shit piss fuck cunt cocksucker mother-fucker and tits (you 
>   have to say it with *rythm*).  We could all just add these to our .sigs."
>         - Marco Simons inciting rebellion against net censorship

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From potato@mo.net Fri Dec 15 07:20:08 PST 1995
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In article <17473B7D4S86.KENH@yaleads.ycc.yale.edu>,
KENH@yaleads.ycc.yale.edu (Ken Hudson) wrote:

> In article 
> potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner) writes:
>  
> >They are a selected group. This is mere anecdotal finger pointing. The
> >real situation among blacks is a Mean Average IQ of 83, below retarded.
> >Are some of them smarter? Hell, yes. Many? About 2 million blacks vs. 60
> >million whites. No amount of civil rights can correct this type of
> >statistical deficiency.
>  
> The correlation between IQ scores and race has not been properly
> researched.  Is the correlation based on intrinsic genetic nature,
> or does the correlation match the correlation between numbers of
> various racial groups and poverty, poor education, lack of developmental
> stimulation in early years (from poverty, etc.).  Since the worst
> educational (worst school systems) and economic profiles belong to African-
> Americans, wouldn't you EXPECT all scores to be lower?
>  
Ken, why don't you stick your head up a nigger's ass and see if there's a
brain in there? I doubt it. You'll be looking a long, long time. Bring a
flashlight and a change of clothes. Lunch is noon sharp. Eat shit.

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From potato@mo.net Fri Dec 15 07:20:09 PST 1995
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In article <4an1vb$2oc@eis.wfunet.wfu.edu>, Timothy N French
 wrote:

> potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner) wrote:
> >> Nothing in The Bell Curve is new
> >
> >Correct. Blacks have been dumb from the beginning. That is why they made
> >better slaves than smart people.  
> >> 
> >> 
> >> >The Bell Curve gets in the way of their fantasies, and, oh!, we just can't
> >> >have that! 
> >> 
> >> The Bell Curve creates a fantasy for those who do not understand the 
> >> theories and concepts contained therein.  Most specifically, it allows 
> >> *fools* to continue their rantings about inherent superiority of any race 
> >> over another.
> >> 
> >> (Doesn't
> >> >matter that negroes still can't be successful no matter where you bus
> >> >them, where you house them, how much you feed them, how many schools you
> >> >destroy with their noisy presence, how many have babies out of wedlock,
> >> >how many have babies within wedlock. No, that doesn't matter. What matters
> >> >is keeping up the illusion that they are equal when they aren't. Because
> >> >they are dumb. Even if it means lying.)
> >> >
> >> Lying?  I'd never do that.  It's entirely too easy to browbeat you with 
> >> truth.  The concept of heritability is at the base of The Bell Curve.  
> >> This concept (actually a relatively complicated mathematical formula) can 
> >> only be used to access genotypic differences between members of  
> >> identical groups in identical environments. 
> >> 
> >-----bullshit snipped-----
> >
> >Tim. You lose.
> 
> 
> I lose?  To what?  Please.  Ha, ha, ha.  You are a joke.  Nice response 
> to repeat the original foolishness that *you* prepared.  Really 
> demonstrates your intelligence. I see you referred to some of my post as 
> "bullshit."  Hmmmmm.  Well, since you responded to none of it, it seems 
> pretty clear that you don't understand it.  I gave you a list earlier.  
> Read Carefully. Work really hard.  
> 
> Oh yeah, the part about my being correct that The Bell Curve was nothing 
> new was a response to your babbling about liberals bashing new scientific 
> approaches.  At any rate, I see you turned that to why we made better 
> slaves.  Awwwww, that hurt my feelings.  Ha, ha, ha, ha -- you are so 
> sad.  
> 
> 
> Timothy

Byte this, my man!


        ASCII Bell Curve Showing Distribution of White & Black IQ
                       Page 279 of The Bell Curve
                 Ethnic Differences in Cognitive Ability


THE BELL CURVE DISTRIBUTION OF BLACK AND WHITE IQ LEVELS BASED ON THE
NATIONAL LONGITUDINAL SURVEY OF YOUTH AND THE ARMED FORCES TESTING SURVEY
(NLSY & AFTS) MEASURING IQ FOR MILLIONS OF PERSONS TESTED YEAR AFTER YEAR

    BLACKS FALL ON LEFT (LOW IQ)      WHITES ON RIGHT (HIGH IQ)


                                  w
                                white
                               whites.
                              whites wh
                             whites whit
                            whites whites 
                            whites whites. 
                           whites whites wh
BLACK MEAN AVERAGE         whites whites wh     WHITE MEAN
83 IQ IS BORDERLINE       whites whites whit    AVERAGE IQ
RETARDED                 whites whites whites   100-103
                       whites whites whites whi
                   blawhites whites whites whites 
                blacks blacks whites whites whites 
blacks blacks blacks blacks black blacks whites whites 
blacks blacks blacks blacks blacks blacks blacks whites 
__________________________________________________________
IQ   50   60   70   80   90  100  110  120 130 140  150 
                      /\       /\
     BLACK MEAN IQ IS 83        WHITE MEAN IQ IS 100-103

1/2 OF BLACKS HAVE 83 IQ OR LESS       1/2 OF WHITES HAVE 100-103 IQ OR LESS
70% OF BLACKS HAVE 100-103 IQ OR LESS  30% OF WHITES HAVE 83 IQ OR LESS
--------------------------------       -------------------------------------
1/2 OF BLACKS HAVE 83 IQ OR MORE       1/2 OF WHITES HAVE 100-103 IQ OR MORE
30% OF BLACKS HAVE 100-103 IQ OR MORE  70% OF WHITES HAVE 83 IQ OR MORE

EACH 10% OF BLACKS =  4 MILLION PERSONS AND 1 MILLION ADULT BLACKS
EACH 10% OF WHITES = 20 MILLION PERSONS AND 9 MILLION ADULT WHITES
(The adult group are persons above 18 years of age)

Smarties
 3 million adult blacks are above 100 IQ
63 million adult whites are above 100 IQ

Dummies
 7 million adult blacks are below 100 IQ
63 million adult whites are below 100 IQ

It takes 95 IQ to pass high school with a D, 100 IQ to pass high school
with a C, and 115 IQ to pass college with a D, 123 with a C, 136 with a B,
144 with an A. Retardation begins at 92 IQ. 60% of blacks and 30% of
whites are BELOW 92 IQ. 50% of blacks and 20% of whites are below 83 IQ
(the black average mean IQ level).

The number of blacks with above average IQ of 100+ by comparisonto whites 
is 
1 black to each 21 white with an IQ above 100.
This means only 1 black out of every 21 above average citizens is
available for executive positions, actually about 1/3rd that amount since
the number of blacks above 130 IQ is less than 10% or about 330,000
persons. Those with degrees and an IQ above 130 are even fewer, since many
do not attend college.
This shows how easily affirmative action can place unqualified people into
positions of authority.

Prepared by Frank Weltner 1995

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From potato@mo.net Fri Dec 15 07:20:10 PST 1995
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In article <4anhad$190t@bigblue.oit.unc.edu>, davwhitt@med.unc.edu (David
Whitt) wrote:

> In article ,
> Frank Weltner  wrote:
> >"Layovers" is right. He was gay as a snake, and he slept with 1,000 people
> >per year. The perfect layover. I fuck you and you die, slob.
> > 
> Snakes are gay?
> 
> -DW

I've got a kingsnake here that says, "Bend Over!" Don't push it.

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From potato@mo.net Fri Dec 15 07:20:11 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article , anakin@pinc.com
(Rajiv K. Gandhi) wrote:

> In article , potato@mo.net
> (Frank Weltner) wrote:
> 
> > Of course, all
> > Indians are Aryans. I don't notice you bringing this up. You are too
> > humble, sir.
> 
> Well, no this isn't quite true, although if you were to analyse it, I do
> think you would that the Indian subcontinent does have closer ties to the
> "aryan" than any member of the white race. The Indian subcontinent was
> invaded by aryans centuries ago. On settling in the region they instituted
> what was the precursor for the caste system that enveloped India, and
> unfortunately continues to envelope it to an extent. This was designed to
> prevent race-mixing. You see, those Aryans were as ignorant about the
> inherent benefits of race mixing as you are. However, intermixing was
> inevitable and you will find that Indians today share features which are
> commonly ascribed to the 'aryan" and also to the 'dravidians' who
> inhabited the area prior to the aryan invasion. Not that any of this
> really matters to me.It still doesn't serve to prove your stunted logic
> that aryans are superior. 
> 
> In fact, given that you claim aryans are superior, and that you claim that
> Indians are inferior, you seem to have a little dilemma - it is obvious
> that you are mistaken (read lying through your teeth) about one of these
> two. Which is it?

I think that you are over-reacting. I have always said that Indians and
Ethiopians are Aryans. I just don't want to marry one. I do want to eat
curry. Can you send some?

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From potato@mo.net Fri Dec 15 09:53:03 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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> And you, Griswold, are mistaking your own random utterances for facts.
> 
> You were challenged to provide evidence for your claim that "eye surgery
> is done with RAZOR BLADES in India". You have provided none.
> 
> You were challenged to explain why you base your assessment of a doctor's
> qualifications entirely on the equipment used by that doctor. You
> explained nothing.
> 
> You promised to post figures from the WHO on the success rate of eye
> surgery in Third World nations. You failed to fulfill that promise.
> 
> The only answer you could come up with was "FUCK YOU" in inch-high ASCII
> artwork. This was expressive of your general contempt for those who insist
> on basing their views on established facts, but hardly supportive of your
> claims.
> 
> Nothing in any of this surprises anyone n these newsgroups, Griswold. We
> recognize your lies for what they are. We recognize you for what you are.
> And we will not stop pointing out that lies are lies, and liars are liars.
> 
> Posted and emailed.
> 
> JGB
> 
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown                                   jeff_brown@pol.com

Jeffrey has this thing about attacking Les, Griswold, Schoedel, and
Weltner. He evidently thinks that we are being needled by his calls for
this and that source. He needs a woman to lure him from his key board and
his messianic screw whitey complex.

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From potato@mo.net Fri Dec 15 10:17:55 PST 1995
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Rush is only fat because he has a portable Mac with the Mac OS which is
fully capable of utilizing software constructed with fat binaries. 


Help me. 


My medication isn't working.

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From potato@mo.net Fri Dec 15 10:17:56 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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Subject: BLACK SLAVERY & THE BIBLE
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Ham was the son of Noah. He entered Noah's tent as Noah slept and
fornicated with Noah, who was his father, as Noah slept. Noah cursed Ham
through generation after generation.

THE GENESIS STORY OF HAM WHO WAS IN THE ARK WITH NOAH, HIS FATHER....

Gen. 9:19   These were the three sons of Noah, and from them came the
people who were scattered over the earth. 

Gen. 9:20   Noah, a man of the soil, proceeded to plant a vineyard. 

Gen. 9:21   When he drank some of its wine, he became drunk and lay
uncovered inside his tent. 

Gen. 9:22   Ham, the father of Canaan, saw his father's nakedness and told
his two brothers outside. 

Gen. 9:23   But Shem and Japheth took a garment and laid it across their
shoulders; then they walked in backward and covered their father's
nakedness. Their faces were turned the other way so that they would not
see their father's nakedness. 

Gen. 9:24   When Noah awoke from his wine and found out what his youngest
son had done to him, 

Gen. 9:25   he said, "Cursed be Canaan! The lowest of slaves will he be to
his brothers." 

Slavers and others in the 18th century began saying Ham's curse justified
slavery. Here is a short discussion of the validity of this postion by a
Jewish scholar on internet:


THOUGHTS BY A JEWISH SCHOLAR ON THE BIBLE'S HAM AND BLACK SLAVERY CONTROVERSY

Simply put the ethnic identity of Ham was not clearly fixed in
the European mind before the eighteenth century.  Ham was identified with
Asia and Africa, with slavery and with empire, and with European rustic
serfs and with the Mongols, among many other options.

The Rabbinic sources which have been misleadingly summarized by
Patai and Graves, among others, are, ambiguous, as to Ham's true identity.
Furthermore the Biblical account is confusing as well.  Medieval Christian
and early modern sources furnish a variety of interpretations of Ham and
the so-called curse.  While Islamic sources are more consistent in
identifying Ham with black slavery, Ham himself never appears in the Quran
so the so-called curse has a different valence in Muslim society than it
does in Christian or Jewish.  It is not until the eighteenth and
nineteenth centuries that a clear and consistent claim that the so-called
curse of Ham justifies enslavement of Black Africans emerges.

Of course in this case it is the social-economic institution of
slavery and the slave trade that shapes and distorts a complex and
contradictory set of religious traditions, not the other way around.  Any
discussion of religious and racial attitudes which ignores the prevailing
social-economic circumstances is bound to be faulty.

END

In other words, the interpretation of Ham as a moniker for slavery was a
later invention. It never did make sense to The Couch Potato that God
would curse an entire people forever, turning them black, just on account
of a single slip in etiquette. Shit happens, after all.

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From potato@mo.net Fri Dec 15 10:17:57 PST 1995
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Subject: Re: Who is a member of the White Race?
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In article ,
aa@mail.tamu.edu (hey) wrote:

> Hey fellow white people:
>    I was just wondering what are the current definitions of white?
>    Who is Caucasian?
>    Can you give specific geographic locations?
>    Is North Africa (Egypt) and the Middle East White?  They sure aren't black.

Maybe not, but they suck anyway.

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From potato@mo.net Fri Dec 15 10:17:58 PST 1995
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> >Unfortunately, the Constitution does not include Thomas Jefferson's
> >memorable mention of all men being equal and possessing certain inalienable
> >rights.  Had these words been included in the Constitution as well as
> >in the Declaration of Independence, it is possible that the crime of
> >American slavery would have lasted a somewhat shorter time.
> 
> i guess it's news to you, JACKASS, that thomas jefferson owned slaves.

Fucked 'em good, too. They stood in line. They all wanted a little Thom.
Wanna' be with the massah. Maybe git me a free banana or an apple.
> 
> 
> R.C. Richards, Racial Theorist
> 
> visit the new, kinder, gentler CLOC homepage:

You are stealing the couch potato's lines! You will pay. 
> 
> http://www.io.com/~wlp/aryan-page/cloc

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From potato@mo.net Fri Dec 15 10:17:59 PST 1995
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> A few questions.

>   1.) If God loves all his children, why did he only send 1 savior to 1
> locale when at the time his children were living one the American and
> African continents, as well as in Asia, the Arctic regions Islands all
> over the world.
>                                              Celebrate the Season,
>                                                         Arlo 

Dear Arlo. I want to set your mind at rest about God. It's like this,
Arlo. God knows EVERYTHING that is EVEN going to happen. Including you.
Incluing your question (above).

Now, if God already KNEW that you were going to ask this question, then he
knew that he had to postpone the apocalypse until at least AFTER you wrote
that. If he had been everywhere at once, then the end time would have come
then, and God would still be believing that you were going to write this.

THEREFORE, God did it the way he did it. And, Arlo? It was just for you.
That is how much God loves you. Enough to make people fight wars for more
than 2,000 years just so that you could write this.

I hope you appreciate what God did for you, Arlo.

I am certain that Rev. Shoedel, and R.C. and Les and I will pray for your
soul Arlo, because you are dangerously close to blasphemy. No one named
Arlo should have that happen. This is a new chance for you. Don't mess it
up.

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From potato@mo.net Fri Dec 15 10:18:00 PST 1995
Article: 10775 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article <4an24b$p0e@condor.acc.iit.edu>, bijachr@charlie (Chris
Bijalba) wrote:

> appyman:
> Followup-To:
alt.wired,talk.bizarre,alt.philosophy.jarf,alt.punk,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.correct,alt.politics.white-power,alt.christnet,alt.satanism,alt.fan.winona-ryder,torfree.general,tor.general,alt.life.sucks,edm.general,ab.g,alt.david,alt.
> 
> happyman:
> References: <4akmiv$pae@carbon.cudenver.edu>
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> Distribution: 
> 
> TobyinTX (tobyintx@aol.com) wrote:
> 
> FUCK AOL

I think it's already been done. Many times....

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From potato@mo.net Fri Dec 15 10:18:00 PST 1995
Article: 10776 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
Newsgroups: alt.support.loneliness,alt.politics.white-power,alt.food.waffle-house,alt.food.dennys,alt.fan.barry-manilow
Subject: Re: CLOC's New Web Address:http://www.io.com/~wlp/aryan-page/cloc
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In article <4amhlq$5ec@su3.in.net>, fuk u @.net ass (phil mcgroin) wrote:

> In article <4ahn8r$ob3@daryl.scsn.net>, xyz@scsn.net says...
> >
> >folks:
> >
> >we've got a new web address:
> >
> >http://www.io.com/~wlp/aryan-page/cloc
> >
> >R.C. Richards, Racial Theorist
> >
> >visit the new, kinder, gentler CLOC homepage: 
> >
> >http://www.io.com/~wlp/aryan-page/cloc
> >
> Fuk you in the ass you backwards assed Alabama goat fuk abortion the that had 
> the nerve to live Ha!haven't you noticed the only thing that will promote the 
> longevity of the white race is by boning all the sweet women of color and 
> there by diluating the mothers race by one half? Or is this simple theory to 
> far advanced for your febel mind? once again FUCK YOU!

Now, R.C. Are you going to let this young man misquote your prayer missal
like this? And isn't "fuk" spelled "fuck." If ya' can't spell it, maybe
ya' cain't do it. (It's dee spoims dat maketh it funeth. Just a hint.)

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From potato@mo.net Fri Dec 15 10:18:01 PST 1995
Article: 10827 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power
Subject: Re: If Whites are so superior...
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In article , bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA
(Les Griswold) wrote:

> Frank Weltner (potato@mo.net) writes:
> > I don't get this anti-Jew thing. After all Einstein was a Jew. A lot of
> > scientists are Jews. Many doctors are Jews.
> > 
> > What's the problem? These aren't scum. These are successful people. 
> > 
> > They have given the Western World far more than they have taken from it,
> > which is alot more than you can say about the blacks who take, take, take.
> 
> Sorry, Potato, but you're not gonna get the jews onside with THAT.
> 
> Les

Well, then fuck them. Who needs their ass?

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From potato@mo.net Fri Dec 15 10:18:02 PST 1995
Article: 10828 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.politics.white-power,alt.discrimination
Subject: Re: 3rd World "qualifications"
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> And you, Griswold, are mistaking your own random utterances for facts.
> 
> You were challenged to provide evidence for your claim that "eye surgery
> is done with RAZOR BLADES in India". You have provided none.
> 
> You were challenged to explain why you base your assessment of a doctor's
> qualifications entirely on the equipment used by that doctor. You
> explained nothing.
> 
> You promised to post figures from the WHO on the success rate of eye
> surgery in Third World nations. You failed to fulfill that promise.
> 
> The only answer you could come up with was "FUCK YOU" in inch-high ASCII
> artwork. This was expressive of your general contempt for those who insist
> on basing their views on established facts, but hardly supportive of your
> claims.
> 
> Nothing in any of this surprises anyone n these newsgroups, Griswold. We
> recognize your lies for what they are. We recognize you for what you are.
> And we will not stop pointing out that lies are lies, and liars are liars.
> 
> Posted and emailed.
> 
> JGB
> 
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown                                   jeff_brown@pol.com

Jeffrey has this thing about attacking Les, Griswold, Schoedel, and
Weltner. He evidently thinks that we are being needled by his calls for
this and that source. He needs a woman to lure him from his key board and
his messianic screw whitey complex.

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From potato@mo.net Fri Dec 15 12:17:10 PST 1995
Article: 65658 of alt.politics.correct
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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Rush is only fat because he has a portable Mac with the Mac OS which is
fully capable of utilizing software constructed with fat binaries. 


Help me. 


My medication isn't working.

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From potato@mo.net Fri Dec 15 12:17:12 PST 1995
Article: 65765 of alt.politics.correct
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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Subject: Re: Are you a christian? SHUTUP ABOUT IT!!!
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> A few questions.

>   1.) If God loves all his children, why did he only send 1 savior to 1
> locale when at the time his children were living one the American and
> African continents, as well as in Asia, the Arctic regions Islands all
> over the world.
>                                              Celebrate the Season,
>                                                         Arlo 

Dear Arlo. I want to set your mind at rest about God. It's like this,
Arlo. God knows EVERYTHING that is EVEN going to happen. Including you.
Incluing your question (above).

Now, if God already KNEW that you were going to ask this question, then he
knew that he had to postpone the apocalypse until at least AFTER you wrote
that. If he had been everywhere at once, then the end time would have come
then, and God would still be believing that you were going to write this.

THEREFORE, God did it the way he did it. And, Arlo? It was just for you.
That is how much God loves you. Enough to make people fight wars for more
than 2,000 years just so that you could write this.

I hope you appreciate what God did for you, Arlo.

I am certain that Rev. Shoedel, and R.C. and Les and I will pray for your
soul Arlo, because you are dangerously close to blasphemy. No one named
Arlo should have that happen. This is a new chance for you. Don't mess it
up.

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From potato@mo.net Fri Dec 15 12:17:13 PST 1995
Article: 65766 of alt.politics.correct
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article <4an24b$p0e@condor.acc.iit.edu>, bijachr@charlie (Chris
Bijalba) wrote:

> appyman:
> Followup-To:
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> 
> happyman:
> References: <4akmiv$pae@carbon.cudenver.edu>
<4al17d$h22@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
> Distribution: 
> 
> TobyinTX (tobyintx@aol.com) wrote:
> 
> FUCK AOL

I think it's already been done. Many times....

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From potato@mo.net Fri Dec 15 15:36:49 PST 1995
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Rush is only fat because he has a portable Mac with the Mac OS which is
fully capable of utilizing software constructed with fat binaries. 


Help me. 


My medication isn't working.

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec 16 08:40:56 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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      >For an assessment of Frank's IQ, see post "Aryan IQs", about 20
threads back.
      >
      >RL
      
      
      Yeah, "Aryan IQs", their not much to look at are they?

Here's my IQ. Take a BIG look.


        ASCII Bell Curve Showing Distribution of White & Black IQ
                       Page 279 of The Bell Curve
                 Ethnic Differences in Cognitive Ability


THE BELL CURVE DISTRIBUTION OF BLACK AND WHITE IQ LEVELS BASED ON THE
NATIONAL LONGITUDINAL SURVEY OF YOUTH AND THE ARMED FORCES TESTING SURVEY
(NLSY & AFTS) MEASURING IQ FOR MILLIONS OF PERSONS TESTED YEAR AFTER YEAR

    BLACKS FALL ON LEFT (LOW IQ)      WHITES ON RIGHT (HIGH IQ)


                                  w
                                white
                               whites.
                              whites wh
                             whites whit
                            whites whites 
                            whites whites. 
                           whites whites wh
BLACK MEAN AVERAGE         whites whites wh     WHITE MEAN
83 IQ IS BORDERLINE       whites whites whit    AVERAGE IQ
RETARDED                 whites whites whites   100-103
                       whites whites whites whi
                   blawhites whites whites whites 
                blacks blacks whites whites whites 
blacks blacks blacks blacks black blacks whites whites 
blacks blacks blacks blacks blacks blacks blacks whites 
__________________________________________________________
IQ   50   60   70   80   90  100  110  120 130 140  150 
                      /\       /\
     BLACK MEAN IQ IS 83        WHITE MEAN IQ IS 100-103

1/2 OF BLACKS HAVE 83 IQ OR LESS       1/2 OF WHITES HAVE 100-103 IQ OR LESS
70% OF BLACKS HAVE 100-103 IQ OR LESS  30% OF WHITES HAVE 83 IQ OR LESS
--------------------------------       -------------------------------------
1/2 OF BLACKS HAVE 83 IQ OR MORE       1/2 OF WHITES HAVE 100-103 IQ OR MORE
30% OF BLACKS HAVE 100-103 IQ OR MORE  70% OF WHITES HAVE 83 IQ OR MORE

EACH 10% OF BLACKS =  4 MILLION PERSONS AND 1 MILLION ADULT BLACKS
EACH 10% OF WHITES = 20 MILLION PERSONS AND 9 MILLION ADULT WHITES
(The adult group are persons above 18 years of age)

Smarties
 3 million adult blacks are above 100 IQ
63 million adult whites are above 100 IQ

Dummies
 7 million adult blacks are below 100 IQ
63 million adult whites are below 100 IQ

It takes 95 IQ to pass high school with a D, 100 IQ to pass high school
with a C, and 115 IQ to pass college with a D, 123 with a C, 136 with a B,
144 with an A. Retardation begins at 92 IQ. 60% of blacks and 30% of
whites are BELOW 92 IQ. 50% of blacks and 20% of whites are below 83 IQ
(the black average mean IQ level).

The number of blacks with above average IQ of 100+ by comparisonto whites 
is 
1 black to each 21 white with an IQ above 100.
This means only 1 black out of every 21 above average citizens is
available for executive positions, actually about 1/3rd that amount since
the number of blacks above 130 IQ is less than 10% or about 330,000
persons. Those with degrees and an IQ above 130 are even fewer, since many
do not attend college.
This shows how easily affirmative action can place unqualified people into
positions of authority.

Prepared by Frank Weltner 1995

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec 16 08:40:57 PST 1995
Article: 16250 of alt.revisionism
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      >Au contraire, Bill. It didn't budge me in the least. I have never read
      >such a bag of bullshit since the hogs fell from the 300 foot bluff and
      >exploded in shit cakes on the rocks below. Nothing you said was anything
      >but liberal blather. As Aristotle said, "When we discuss what is written
      >in a manuscript, it is wiser to allow the manuscript to speak for itself
      >and not trust a mere critic." The book is immense, well-written,
      >bibliographies up the ying-yang, and you not only did not refute it, you
      >can't.
      >
      I can Frank.  I have beaten you to death with all the problems of the 
      book and *you* can't defend it.  

Help me! I am dying, and I lie "prostitute" upon the ground, Tim. You are
such a big brute, you are.

Half of the problems I addressed you 
      don't even discuss.

Half of your brain is a problem. Are you sure you don't have parietal
syphillis? Just asking.

  Here's a quick list just to give you some easy stuff 
      to talk about. Just to give 5 quick points:
      
      1.  The book moves to casually between correlation and causality.

My, what a nice twist on "casually" and "causality." Very refined. Nice
touch. Of course, it forgets that causation and correlation are
intertwined. If there is causality, there is, by definition, correlation.
Think about it, Tim. Work with it awhile. I'm sure it will come to you....
      
      2.  The book is heavily based on the concept of "g" or general           
          intelligence and they have no idea what "g" is--Read Arthur Jensen   
          (1981).  

"G" is alot like what the famous Supreme Court Justice said about
pornography:  "I can't define pornography in words, but I know it when I
see it." Well, I live in a burgeoning ghetto where whites are being
ethnically cleansed by black savages. When someone says "Pepa Toda" for
"Pepsi-Cola" you know he's got a problem. I hear this all the time. When
they can't read, can't talk right, can't stop stealing, can't express
themselves, you being to realize that they definitely lack "g", and the IQ
tests measure that lack in great detail. Reading their scores, you want to
say "G, I didn't think people could be that stupid." But they are. And "g"
intelligence is the measure of smarts, farts, and mental warts.
      
      3.  Heritability is not a testible theory in non-controlled conditions.  
          The theory assumes that the things tested are exact genetic equals   
          operating in the same environment.  Society is a non-controlled      
          condition.  For a more detailed discussion read (King, 79)

No need. We just look in different areas of the world--e.g., Nigeria,
Soweto, Kenya, Ethiopia, Sudan, Somalia, Chad, Mississippi, New York,
California, Brazil, and on and on. Each has a different environment. Each
has blacks. The blacks are all stupid. Therefore, it cannot be
environment. New York is a far cry from Mauritania where blacks still
enslave, sell, and exhange blacks as barter. Nothing is similar except
this: the blacks are fucking stupid.
      
      4.  Research suggests that social hostility against a particular group is 
          partly responsible for lower standardized test scores.  See tests of 
          Japan nationals vs Immigrants of different classes.  Often cited in  
          The Bell Curve Debate. (1995)

This sound good, but it isn't, because it is unsupportable by the
evidence. For instance, in Canada asians are considered inferior. However,
the asians there are smarter and more successful than either the English
or French majorities. Likewise, in St. Louis, Pakistani's are hated more
than blacks. Nonetheless, Pakistani's have been successful owning
quickshops, motels, food stores, and other retail establishments in black
areas where blacks never open anything; the reaction has been the blacks
resenting the successful Pakistani's for showing them up. Also, let's look
at Hong Kong and Singapore where the British lorded it over the lowly
Chinese natives who were considered inferior scum; now, in Hong Kong and
Singapore the natives make more than the British.

Only the blacks are so inferior that they need apologists to "explain
away" their abject and eternal failure. Explaining this as a reaction to
"social hostility" not only discounts the realities of Hong Kong,
Singapore, Pakistani immigrant success in the USA, but it also does not
explain how some blacks like Clarence Thomas, Alan Keyes, and Thomas
Sowell were not likewise affected.
      
      5.  In the final analysis  the only thing The Bell Curve proves is that  
          social status and affluence is heritable.   

No one will doubt that social status and affluence are inherited. That is
obvious, and to use it to state that this is the only conclusion of the
book that is worthy is to trivialize the true contribution of The Bell
Curve to all future discussions of intelligence. In addition, Clarence
Thomas grew up in a very poor environment, but he rose above it. A young
black man in St. Louis by the name of Dwight Billingsly, an MBA from Yale,
grew up in Walnut Park where crime and despair were the lifestyles du
jour. Nonetheless, Dwight is one of the smartest financial minds in the
midwest. What about his inheritance? What about the "social hostility"
against blacks in his case?
      
      #1-3 mean that scientifically the book is a wash.

No. They mean you need to think again about what you said.

  #4 suggests just one 
      altern possibility (there are many more)

Re-Read my answer. Learning, I know, I know, is painful, but try.

 and #5 is a new topic.

Yes, and it has nothing to do with the book.

  You 
      whine and whine that no one understands the book.  You don't!  Step up or 
      shut up.  

Well, I'm not going to shut up. Besides, I just stepped up and demolished
your statements. I would like, however, to congratulate you on getting
yourself together and spending the time to enter the discussion. Your
views are always welcome.
      
      You don't understand the theory behind it, or its history. 

Au contraire! Mon ami.

 For you, The 
      Bell Curve just gives you grounds (in your mind) to back up your sad and 
      racist beliefs.

My beliefs are not beliefs. They are based upon daily observation of
blacks in my neighborhood who kill, rape, molest, threaten, shoot,
burglarize, sell drugs, and fuck 13-year-old black girls because they
don't carry AIDS.

  You are, as I have said before, a fool. 

Yea. I'm just so fucking dumb. Gee. Duh. Gee. Duh. Give me a break! 

 Not ad hom--just fact.

Tim, please. Don't make an ad hominem attack and then claim that you
didn't. I mean, really. Whose intelligence are you insulting here? Your
own? (By the way, my reply IS an ad hominum attack, or, actually more of a
retort.)
      
      Timothy

Best of luck, Timothy. Trying to stick up for a race which has NEVER had a
fine civilization, has been looked down upon by every major culture, and
which test very low for IQ as a group when some of its members are smart,
is difficult to do. As you can see. Tra la.

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec 16 08:53:37 PST 1995
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In article , anakin@pinc.com
(Rajiv K. Gandhi) wrote:

      In article <4albr2$10tn@bigblue.oit.unc.edu>, davwhitt@med.unc.edu (David
      Whitt) wrote:
      
      > All holidays have been cheapened by commercialization.  If it fine for
      > blacks to celebrate MLK Day but why take away Presidents Day as a state
      > holiday in order to make MLK Day a state holiday?  Just because a small
      > fraction of the population wants to celebrate his impact on them that
      > doesn't mean the majority of the population should be forced to.
      
      I would hardly consider well over fifteen million people to be a
small fraction.

Actually, the Constitution defines blacks as 3/5th of a person. Therefore,
the actual number is ...

3/5 person X15,000,000 niggers = 9,000,000 niggers

However, they are not as smart as whites. Their IQ is 83 versus 100 for
whites. If we extrapolate this mathematically, we need to divide 83/100
and multiply by the 9,000,000 blacks as below....

83/100 IQ  X 9,000,000 niggers = 7,470,000 niggers

Now we are getting somewhere. Then, we need to take in consideration that
4/5ths of blacks are children and not adults. Probably because they fuck
between loads of dope. If we multiply the 7,470,000 niggers by 1/5th (the
number of actual adult niggers), we get this result...

1/5th X 7,470,000 niggers = 1,494,000 adult niggers

Okay, now we have to realize that fully 1/2th of the 1.5 million of people
in jail and probation at any given time are niggers, that's 750,000 people
we need to deduct. Now we get...

1,494,000 - 750,000 = 744,000 adult niggers NOT in jail in USA

More than 60% of all niggers are retarded. If we take the original figure
of 15,000,000 niggers times 60% retarded, we get...

15,000,000 X .60 = 9,000,000 retarded niggers

If we subtract 9,000,000 retarded niggers from the 744,000 niggers in the
USA, we get...

    744,000 adult niggers who are not retarded and are not in jail 
- 9,000,000 retarded niggers
-----------
<-8,256,000> non-retarded, non-jailed niggers

Oh, oh. Nigger alert! We have just run out of niggers!

Does this mean we need to import 8,256,000 New niggers to replace these
that we are lacking?

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec 16 08:57:11 PST 1995
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In article , anakin@pinc.com
(Rajiv K. Gandhi) wrote:

      In article <4albr2$10tn@bigblue.oit.unc.edu>, davwhitt@med.unc.edu (David
      Whitt) wrote:
      
      > All holidays have been cheapened by commercialization.  If it fine for
      > blacks to celebrate MLK Day but why take away Presidents Day as a state
      > holiday in order to make MLK Day a state holiday?  Just because a small
      > fraction of the population wants to celebrate his impact on them that
      > doesn't mean the majority of the population should be forced to.
      
      I would hardly consider well over fifteen million people to be a
small fraction.

Actually, the Constitution defines blacks as 3/5th of a person. Therefore,
the actual number is ...

3/5 person X15,000,000 niggers = 9,000,000 niggers

However, they are not as smart as whites. Their IQ is 83 versus 100 for
whites. If we extrapolate this mathematically, we need to divide 83/100
and multiply by the 9,000,000 blacks as below....

83/100 IQ  X 9,000,000 niggers = 7,470,000 niggers

Now we are getting somewhere. Then, we need to take in consideration that
4/5ths of blacks are children and not adults. Probably because they fuck
between loads of dope. If we multiply the 7,470,000 niggers by 1/5th (the
number of actual adult niggers), we get this result...

1/5th X 7,470,000 niggers = 1,494,000 adult niggers

Okay, now we have to realize that fully 1/2th of the 1.5 million of people
in jail and probation at any given time are niggers, that's 750,000 people
we need to deduct. Now we get...

1,494,000 - 750,000 = 744,000 adult niggers NOT in jail in USA

More than 60% of all niggers are retarded. If we take the original figure
of 15,000,000 niggers times 60% retarded, we get...

15,000,000 X .60 = 9,000,000 retarded niggers

If we subtract 9,000,000 retarded niggers from the 744,000 niggers in the
USA, we get...

    744,000 adult niggers who are not retarded and are not in jail 
- 9,000,000 retarded niggers
-----------
<-8,256,000> non-retarded, non-jailed niggers

Oh, oh. Nigger alert! We have just run out of niggers!

Does this mean we need to import 8,256,000 New niggers to replace these
that we are lacking?

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec 16 11:19:06 PST 1995
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In article , anakin@pinc.com
(Rajiv K. Gandhi) wrote:

      In article <4albr2$10tn@bigblue.oit.unc.edu>, davwhitt@med.unc.edu (David
      Whitt) wrote:
      
      > All holidays have been cheapened by commercialization.  If it fine for
      > blacks to celebrate MLK Day but why take away Presidents Day as a state
      > holiday in order to make MLK Day a state holiday?  Just because a small
      > fraction of the population wants to celebrate his impact on them that
      > doesn't mean the majority of the population should be forced to.
      
      I would hardly consider well over fifteen million people to be a
small fraction.

Actually, the Constitution defines blacks as 3/5th of a person. Therefore,
the actual number is ...

3/5 person X15,000,000 niggers = 9,000,000 niggers

However, they are not as smart as whites. Their IQ is 83 versus 100 for
whites. If we extrapolate this mathematically, we need to divide 83/100
and multiply by the 9,000,000 blacks as below....

83/100 IQ  X 9,000,000 niggers = 7,470,000 niggers

Now we are getting somewhere. Then, we need to take in consideration that
4/5ths of blacks are children and not adults. Probably because they fuck
between loads of dope. If we multiply the 7,470,000 niggers by 1/5th (the
number of actual adult niggers), we get this result...

1/5th X 7,470,000 niggers = 1,494,000 adult niggers

Okay, now we have to realize that fully 1/2th of the 1.5 million of people
in jail and probation at any given time are niggers, that's 750,000 people
we need to deduct. Now we get...

1,494,000 - 750,000 = 744,000 adult niggers NOT in jail in USA

More than 60% of all niggers are retarded. If we take the original figure
of 15,000,000 niggers times 60% retarded, we get...

15,000,000 X .60 = 9,000,000 retarded niggers

If we subtract 9,000,000 retarded niggers from the 744,000 niggers in the
USA, we get...

    744,000 adult niggers who are not retarded and are not in jail 
- 9,000,000 retarded niggers
-----------
<-8,256,000> non-retarded, non-jailed niggers

Oh, oh. Nigger alert! We have just run out of niggers!

Does this mean we need to import 8,256,000 New niggers to replace these
that we are lacking?

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec 16 16:50:23 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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Subject: Re: A few more facts. (Was Re: Million Monkey March)
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In article , anakin@pinc.com
(Rajiv K. Gandhi) wrote:

:In article , potato@mo.net
:(Frank Weltner) wrote:
:
:> Raghead, Sir:
:> 
:> What makes you assume that the Jews weren't Aryans? 
:
:Given that the general WP assertion is that Jews are inferior, and that
:they deserve to die, and that they a filthy and disgusting, I wonder if
:you don't see some conflict with your preceding statement.
:
:In any event, I assume nothing, except that Jewish genes are not pure
:aryan. Nobody alive toady is a pure aryan, except perhaps for the
:Atlanteans visiting with Zundel in the UFO base on the far side of the
:moon.
:
:> Perhaps you should not assume so much. Oh, sir, a man with an Aryan
:> background like yours. Sir, even with your darkling skin type! Sir, have
:> pride.
:
:See my posting under subject "Re:I'm White and Oppressed" regarding the
:inherent innacuracy in this statement.
:
:But as for pride, why have pride in something over which I had no hand in
:choosing, something over which I had no control? It is a fact, not a
:medal. Get over it.

l have never in my life wanted to exterminate Jews or Negroes. Most of my
friends have been Negroes and Jews. Jews are the most productive group of
people known to mankind for their size, especially; in fact, very
productive despite their small size. Many inventions come from Jews.
Negroes are another matter. However, I do not advocate killing them. How
dare you.

Can't a person hate especially stupid and predatory negroes living in his
neighborhood and other urban areas as a general group without being
accused of wanting to kill them? Death would be redundant.

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From potato@mo.net Sat Dec 16 16:50:24 PST 1995
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In article , anakin@pinc.com
(Rajiv K. Gandhi) wrote:

:In article , potato@mo.net
:(Frank Weltner) wrote:
:
:> Bullshit. The school district in the St. Louis ghettoes have $8,500 per
:> student to spend. Whites are sending their kids to schools for $2,000 per
:
:Document this please.

St. Louis Post-Dispatch Daily Newspaper. It's liberal and a pulitzer
publication. These are the Post's figures.
:
:> IQ testing takes place BEFORE students received academic training. IQ
:> predicts how well they will do in such training environments. People do
:> not gain higher IQ no matter how hard they study. A low IQ is like a
:> permanently blind eye that will never see.
:
:IQ testing is inherently biased towards a european culture. Not to mention
:that the whole concent of IQ is highly circumspect.
:
:> Like they all get together and make up a test to shit on blacks, right?
:
:Not their intention perhaps, but it happens - read an IQ test (you can
:READ can't you?) - you will see that questions are inherently biased.
:
:> Sure. Intentionally designed. We have bussed these little apes to the very
:> best schools and they still flunk out. 

from:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/syllabi?schools
Supreme Court Decision on Missouri vs. Jenkins says..
ftp://ftp.cwru.edu/hermes/ascii/93-1823.ZO.filt
Supreme Court Ruling Syllabus at the Above URL
Missouri vs. Jenkins

Athough -there had been a trend of improvement in
academic achievement [after spending $1.5 billion extra]
, . . . the [KCMSD] school district was far
>from  reaching its maximum potential because KCMSD
is still at or below national norms at many grade lev-
els.-  Ibid.  It went on to say that with respect to qual-
ity education, -implementation of programs in and of
itself is not sufficient.  The test, after all, is whether
the vestiges of segregation, here the system-wide reduc-
tion in student achievement, have been eliminated to
the greatest extent practicable.

In Kansas City, they spent $1.5
:> billion to make the finest schools in the world for the blacks. 
:
:Document this please.

from:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/syllabi?schools
ftp://ftp.cwru.edu/hermes/ascii/93-1823.ZO.filt
Supreme Court Ruling Syllabus at the Above URL
Missouri vs. Jenkins

The Supreme Court ruled that the State of Missouri would
NOT have to fund any more special remedies in Kansas City 
where $1.5 billion was spent and the school's students 
performed no better.

Supreme Court Syllabus--------------------

 Reducing class
size will serve to remedy the vestiges of past segre-
gation by increasing individual attention and in-
struction, as well as increasing the potential for
desegregative educational experiences for KCMSD [Kansas
City Metropolitan School District]
students by maintaining and attracting non-minority
enrollment.-  Id., at 29.
[The] State
was required to fund programs at both the 25 racially
identifiable schools as well as the 43 other schools
within the KCMSD.  Id., at 33.  
  The KCMSD was awarded an AAA rating in the
1987-1988 school year, and there is no dispute that
since that time it has -`maintained and greatly exceeded
AAA requirements.'-  19 F. 3d 393, 401 (CA8 1994)
(Beam, J., dissenting from denial of rehearing en banc). 
The total cost for these quality education programs has
exceeded $220 million.  Missouri Department of Elemen-
tary and Secondary Education, KCMSD Total Desegrega-
tion Program Expenditures (Sept. 30, 1994) (Desegrega-
tion Expenditures).

Since its inception, the magnet school program has
operated at a cost, including magnet transportation, in
excess of $448 million.  See Desegregation Expenditures. 

In April 1993, the District Court considered, but ulti-
mately rejected, the plaintiffs' and the KCMSD's pro-
posal seeking approval of a long-range magnet renewal
program that included a 10-year budget of well over
$500 million, funded by the State and the KCMSD on a
joint-and-several basis.  App. to Pet. for Cert. A-123.

 The initial phase of the capital improve-
ments plan cost $37 million.  Ibid.  The District Court
also required the KCMSD to present further capital
improvements proposals -in order to bring its facilities
to a point comparable with the facilities in neighboring
suburban school districts.-  Ibid.  In November 1986,
the District Court approved further capital improve-
ments in order to remove the vestiges of racial segrega-
tion and -to . . . attract non-minority students back to
the KCMSD.

  In September 1987, the District Court adopted, for the
most part, KCMSD's long-range capital improvements
plan at a cost in excess of $187 million.  Jenkins v.
Missouri, 672 F. Supp. 400, 408 (WD Mo. 1987).  The
plan called for the renovation of approximately 55
schools, the closure of 18 facilities, and the construction
of 17 new schools.  Id., at 405.  The District Court
rejected what it referred to as the -`patch and repair'
approach proposed by the State- because it -would not
achieve suburban comparability or the visual attractive-
ness sought by the Court as it would result in floor
coverings with unsightly sections of mismatched carpet-
ing and tile, and individual walls possessing different
shades of paint.-  Id., at 404.  The District Court rea-
soned that -if the KCMSD schools underwent the lim-
ited renovation proposed by the State, the schools would
continue to be unattractive and substandard, and would
certainly serve as a deterrent to parents considering
enrolling their children in KCMSD schools.-  Id., at 405. 
As of 1990, the District Court had ordered $260 million
in capital improvements.  Missouri v. Jenkins, 495 U. S.
33, 61 (1990) (Jenkins II) (Kennedy, J., concurring in
part and concurring in judgment).  Since then, the total
cost of capital improvements ordered has soared to over
$540 million.  

 Since that time,
however, the District Court has ordered salary assis-
tance to all but three of the approximately 5,000
KCMSD employees.  The total cost of this component of
the desegregation remedy since 1987 is over $200 mil-
lion.  See Desegregation Expenses.  

  Nor are there limits to the duration of the District
Court's involvement.  The expenditures per pupil in the
KCMSD currently far exceed those in the neighboring
SSD's.  19 F. 3d, at 399 (Beam, J., dissenting from
denial of rehearing en banc) (per-pupil costs within the
SSD's, excluding capital costs, range from $2,854 to
$5,956; per pupil costs within the KCMSD, excluding
capital costs, are $9,412); Brief for Respondent KCMSD
et al. 18, n. 5 (arguing that per pupil costs in the
KCMSD, excluding capital costs, are $7,665.18).  Sixteen
years after this litigation began, the District Court
recognized that the KCMSD has yet to offer a viable
method of financing the -wonderful school system being
built.-  App to Pet. for Cert. A-124; cf. Milliken II,
supra, at 293 (Powell, J., concurring in judgment)
(-Th[e] parties . . . have now joined forces apparently
for the purpose of extracting funds from the state trea-
sury-).  Each additional program ordered by the District
Court-and financed by the State-to increase the
-desegregative attractiveness- of the school district
makes the KCMSD more and more dependent on addi-
tional funding from the State

:> The stupid little fuckers flunked at the same rate. Improvement was 
:> non-existant.
:> Best teachers, best books, best facilities, air conditioning, free food,
:> olympic swimming pools--and guess what? Nothing changed.
:
:Document this one as well, please.

Kansas City Star Daily Newspaper
St. Louis Post-Dispatch Daily Newspaper
Wall Street Journal
The Periodical Index

also...

from:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/syllabi?schools
ftp://ftp.cwru.edu/hermes/ascii/93-1823.ZO.filt
Supreme Court Ruling Syllabus at the Above URL
Missouri vs. Jenkins

 These massive expenditures
have financed 
-high schools in which every classroom will have air
conditioning, an alarm system, and 15 microcomput-
ers; a 2,000-square-foot planetarium; green houses
and vivariums; a 25-acre farm with an air-condi-
tioned meeting room for 104 people; a Model United
Nations wired for language translation; broadcast
capable radio and television studios with an editing
and animation lab; a temperature controlled art
gallery; movie editing and screening rooms; a 3,500-
square-foot dust-free diesel mechanics room; 1,875-
square-foot elementary school animal rooms for use
in a zoo project; swimming pools; and numerous
other facilities.-  Jenkins II, 495 U. S., at 77 (Ken-
nedy, J., concurring in part and concurring in judg-
ment).
Not surprisingly, the cost of this remedial plan has -far
exceeded KCMSD's budget, or for that matter, its au-
thority to tax.-  Id., at 60.  The State, through the
operation of joint-and-several liability, has borne the
brunt of these costs.  The District Court candidly has
acknowledged that it has -allowed the District planners
to dream- and -provided the mechanism for th[ose]
dreams to be realized.-  App. to Pet. for Cert. A-133. 
In short, the District Court -has gone to great lengths
to provide KCMSD with facilities and opportunities not
available anywhere else in the country.-  Id., at A-115.

 The District Court also set out to desegregate the
KCMSD but believed that -[t]o accomplish desegregation
within the boundary lines of a school district whose
enrollment remains 68.3% black is a difficult task.

:> No. Sensible people move away from every area when it goes black, because
:> of the crime, dope, verbal and physical harrassment, immaturity, low IQ,
:> lack of success, and general incivility. 
:
:Document this one too.

Go to:
http://www.townhall.com/townhall/FRC/insight/is95j3cr.html

YOUTH GANGS: OUT OF CONTROL AND GETTING WORSE
by Robert L. Maginnis


A recent decline in violent crime appears to be more a result of
fewer teenagers than better law enforcement. When the current
bumper crop of elementary-age children become adolescents, the
violent crime rate is likely to explode. 

A growing chorus of experts warn of the impending youth crime
crisis. Reggie Walton, a Washington, D.C. Superior Court judge
who handles juvenile cases, blames it on the disappearance of
fathers. Walton says fathers leave children to be raised by young
mothers who themselves are often struggling with mental or
emotional problems, limited education, poverty and addiction.
Walton labels these children "walking time bombs."[1] 

 Today, most gangs are racially
          segregated (54.6 percent are African American and 32.6
          percent are Hispanic). Blacks and Hispanics constitute the
          largest numbers of youths arrested for gang offenses
          today.[34] 

The all-black rival gangs, the Crips and the Bloods, have an
          estimated 70,000 members in Los Angeles County alone.[35]
          They have franchises in most states and metropolitan
          communities where they tend to dominate the crack cocaine
          trade. 

          Darlyne Pettinicchio, a probation officer in Orange County,
          California, says, "(White gangs are) punk rockers and heavy
          metalers (who) come from all socio-economic classes. They're
          of average intelligence and they're capable youngsters. They
          have very little parental authority. They're usually angry. Their
          dance is violent. Their music is violent. Their behavior is
          violent. They're into anarchy."[36] 

          There are numerous Hispanic, Satanic cult, Asian, and Stoner
          (punk rock and heavy metal) gangs. Each has a subculture
          and each tends to be very violent and involved in the use and
          or distribution of illicit drugs. 

          Economic-based gangs: Some gangs are organized around
          a commercial activity. Members may be all from a single race
          or the same neighborhood or they may be very diverse. The
          glue that holds them together is making money. 

          They often see themselves as Robin Hoods or
          Bonnie-and-Clyde types who practice their own version of free
          enterprise. A close cousin is the corporate gang, which selects
          a type of industry or business and dominates the field through
          intimidation and violence. For example, there was a
          Miami-based gang called the "Mazda boys" who specialized
          in stealing Mazda cars. 

          Territorial gangs: Territorial gangs can be from any race or
          ethnic background. They lay claim to a particular territory.
          They typically "tag" their territory with gang graffiti and are
          willing to defend their turf to the death. When their territory is
          invaded the gang provides "warriors." 

                                        WHO JOINS A GANG?

No matter the type of gang, most gang members are male. A
Chicago study of four police districts found that only 2 to 5 percent
of gang arrestees were female.[37] These females are typically
auxiliary gang members. 

Gang members range in age from 8 to 22 years old, but there are
exceptions where tenure is often well beyond 22 to perhaps more
than 40 years old.[38] A counselor in a juvenile detention facility in
California said: "(If) you find a gang member who comes from a
complete nuclear family, a kid who has never been exposed to any
kind of abuse, I'd like to meet him....a real 'gangbanger' who comes
>from  a happy, balanced home, who's got a good opinion of himself.
I don't think that kid exists."[39] 

Sydney Harris, a nationally syndicated columnist, said, "Gang
members tend to be chronic losers, who can accomplish nothing
individually, or who live in so depressed an environment that only
by banding together can they exercise any influence over their
lives. In both cases, they are as much to be pitied as
condemned."[40] 

Allen Frazier, superintendent of schools for Plymouth,
Connecticut, blames economic problems. "As people have more
economic problems in the adult world," says Frazier, "it transfers to
the young people as well....[The children] don't seem to have a
place where they are comfortable. In order to seek that, sometimes
they end up with the security of a gang....It becomes an extended
family which they may not have."[41] 

A gang researcher says, "These gang kids have nothing to do that
they perceive as useful. They are the disconnected, alienated ones.
They identify with whatever is trendy in terms of music, clothes,
and in terms of behavior. They are living entirely on the surface of
life."[42] 

Prisons are often referred to as gang training schools. Often gangs
are formed in prison and then emigrate to the streets. The
cohesion associated with jail time amplifies gang loyalty. 

Fred Williams, the executive director for Common Ground
Foundation, a Watts [Los Angeles, California] nonprofit
organization that works with gang youth, says, "Prison doesn't scare
them. It's a home away from home."[43] 


corps, "Gangs have been a major cause of the growth in violent
crime in the past decade."[2] He cited a Treasury Department
report that found the presence of rival gangs, the Bloods and the
Crips, in 35 states and 58 cities across the country. 

At the same press conference, Attorney General Janet Reno cited
the impact of disabling one gang in New Haven, Connecticut.
Eighteen members of the "Jungleboy" street gang were put in jail,
and, according to Reno, New Haven's murder rate fell by one-third
in 1993.[3] 

Given that youth gangs account for a disproportionate share of
youth violence, their potential for contributing to a future crime
wave is enormous. 

At the current growth rate, there will be nearly half-a-million more
adolescent boys in the year 2010 than today. That means if current
trends continue, we will have perhaps 30,000 more chronic juvenile
delinquents by the year 2010 than today. Chronic youth offenders
comprise 7 percent of all male teenagers and they commit 70
percent of all serious crime for their age group.[4] 

If history is any predictor, these adolescents will be more violent
than the current delinquents. According to the Department of
Justice, today's youth are extremely violent. Firearms are now used
by three-fourths of all juvenile homicide offenders and one-third of
all reported violent crime offenders are less than 21 years old.
Juvenile arrests for all violent crime have increased from 1983 to
1992 in spite of the decline in the overall number of teenagers in
the U.S. population. The government estimates that the juvenile
arrest rate for major violent crime will more than double by the
year 2010.[5] 

This ticking youth time bomb is evident everywhere. California
authorities report that incarcerations of violent youth increased
>from  44 percent of the prison population in 1987 to 61 percent in
1992[6]. There is no sign of a turnaround. Officials in the upscale
Washington, D.C. suburb of Fairfax, Virginia, report that the
number of juveniles arrested for violent crimes has climbed 61
percent since 1991. The number of youth arrested with weapons
has risen 118 percent since 1989.[7] 

A 1993 report by the Washington State Department of Community
Development states, "Our state and nation are awash in a tidal
wave of violence, violence that has reached epidemic proportions
especially among our youngest generation."[8] 

Professor Dean Rojek, a sociologist at the University of Georgia,
says, "For decades violent crime was driven mostly by adults, with
kids involved mostly in property crime....What's been changing is
that you have juveniles becoming much more involved in violent
offenses, with the use of weapons. If we add to this more babies,
you could have a multiplier effect...a mini explosion [in violent
crime by youth]."[9] 

Attorney General Janet Reno agrees. "Unless we act now," says
Reno, "to stop young people from choosing a life of violence and
crime, the beginning of the 21st century could bring levels of
violent crime to our community that far exceed what we have
experienced."[10] 

                    GANGS EXACERBATE THE PROBLEM

The bomb's fuse is shortened by the youth gang phenomenon.
California authorities describe the youth gang as a "violent and
insidious new form of organized crime. Heavily armed with
sophisticated weapons, (gangs) are involved in drug trafficking,
witness intimidation, extortion, and bloody territorial wars. In some
cases they are traveling out of state to spread their violence and
crime."[11] 

According to the FBI, "The fastest growing murder circumstance is
juvenile gang killings."[12] Almost one-third of Los Angeles'
homicides are gang related.[13] Nationwide, the rate of violent
offenses by gang members is three times as high as for non-gang
delinquents.[14] 

There's something about young males belonging to a gang that
makes them more violent. 

          Orange County, California probation statistics indicate that
          gang-related youth had significantly higher law-violation rates
          (55.1 percent) than non-gang affiliated youth (26.4
          percent).[15] A study of 20 years of data collected by
          Philadelphia's police gang unit shows that "gangs engage in
          more violent behavior than do delinquent non-gang
          groups."[16] 

          Metropolitan Life surveyed schools about gang violence. It
          found that more than half (59 percent) of law enforcement
          and one-third (34 percent) of students and teachers say gang
          or group membership is a major cause of violence in
          schools.[17] 

          A study in Wisconsin found that most violent crimes by
          youths were committed by groups of three or more. This
          "pack" behavior, not surprisingly, seems to be at the core of
          much of the rise in youth crime.[18] 

          A study of New York City teenage gunshot victims found that
          40 percent were shot during school hours. Another study
          found that of children and teenagers wounded in drive-by
          shootings in Los Angeles, 71 percent were "documented
          members of street gangs."[19] 

Not only do gang members tend to be more violent than non-gang
members, but gang membership appears to prolong one's
criminal career. One study found that a "large portion of persistent
and dangerous juvenile gang offenders become even more serious
adult offenders."[20] Another study in California found that
previously-incarcerated gang members continued their lives of
crime after being released.[21] 


:
:> Only 29% graduate from high school here, and
:> one-half of them are functionally illerate. They graduated because their
:> teachers felt sorry for them. Why? THEY ARE DUMB.
:
:Cite the source for this statistic as well.

St. Louis Post-Dispatch Daily Newspaper, a pulitizer paper.
:
:Well, I count four uncited assertions. Please provide a source citation to
:support them.

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In article , anakin@pinc.com
(Rajiv K. Gandhi) wrote:

:In article , potato@mo.net
:(Frank Weltner) wrote:
:
:> Raghead, Sir:
:> 
:> What makes you assume that the Jews weren't Aryans? 
:
:Given that the general WP assertion is that Jews are inferior, and that
:they deserve to die, and that they a filthy and disgusting, I wonder if
:you don't see some conflict with your preceding statement.
:
:In any event, I assume nothing, except that Jewish genes are not pure
:aryan. Nobody alive toady is a pure aryan, except perhaps for the
:Atlanteans visiting with Zundel in the UFO base on the far side of the
:moon.
:
:> Perhaps you should not assume so much. Oh, sir, a man with an Aryan
:> background like yours. Sir, even with your darkling skin type! Sir, have
:> pride.
:
:See my posting under subject "Re:I'm White and Oppressed" regarding the
:inherent innacuracy in this statement.
:
:But as for pride, why have pride in something over which I had no hand in
:choosing, something over which I had no control? It is a fact, not a
:medal. Get over it.

l have never in my life wanted to exterminate Jews or Negroes. Most of my
friends have been Negroes and Jews. Jews are the most productive group of
people known to mankind for their size, especially; in fact, very
productive despite their small size. Many inventions come from Jews.
Negroes are another matter. However, I do not advocate killing them. How
dare you.

Can't a person hate especially stupid and predatory negroes living in his
neighborhood and other urban areas as a general group without being
accused of wanting to kill them? Death would be redundant.

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In article , anakin@pinc.com
(Rajiv K. Gandhi) wrote:

:In article , potato@mo.net
:(Frank Weltner) wrote:
:
:> Bullshit. The school district in the St. Louis ghettoes have $8,500 per
:> student to spend. Whites are sending their kids to schools for $2,000 per
:
:Document this please.

St. Louis Post-Dispatch Daily Newspaper. It's liberal and a pulitzer
publication. These are the Post's figures.
:
:> IQ testing takes place BEFORE students received academic training. IQ
:> predicts how well they will do in such training environments. People do
:> not gain higher IQ no matter how hard they study. A low IQ is like a
:> permanently blind eye that will never see.
:
:IQ testing is inherently biased towards a european culture. Not to mention
:that the whole concent of IQ is highly circumspect.
:
:> Like they all get together and make up a test to shit on blacks, right?
:
:Not their intention perhaps, but it happens - read an IQ test (you can
:READ can't you?) - you will see that questions are inherently biased.
:
:> Sure. Intentionally designed. We have bussed these little apes to the very
:> best schools and they still flunk out. 

from:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/syllabi?schools
Supreme Court Decision on Missouri vs. Jenkins says..
ftp://ftp.cwru.edu/hermes/ascii/93-1823.ZO.filt
Supreme Court Ruling Syllabus at the Above URL
Missouri vs. Jenkins

Athough -there had been a trend of improvement in
academic achievement [after spending $1.5 billion extra]
, . . . the [KCMSD] school district was far
>from  reaching its maximum potential because KCMSD
is still at or below national norms at many grade lev-
els.-  Ibid.  It went on to say that with respect to qual-
ity education, -implementation of programs in and of
itself is not sufficient.  The test, after all, is whether
the vestiges of segregation, here the system-wide reduc-
tion in student achievement, have been eliminated to
the greatest extent practicable.

In Kansas City, they spent $1.5
:> billion to make the finest schools in the world for the blacks. 
:
:Document this please.

from:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/syllabi?schools
ftp://ftp.cwru.edu/hermes/ascii/93-1823.ZO.filt
Supreme Court Ruling Syllabus at the Above URL
Missouri vs. Jenkins

The Supreme Court ruled that the State of Missouri would
NOT have to fund any more special remedies in Kansas City 
where $1.5 billion was spent and the school's students 
performed no better.

Supreme Court Syllabus--------------------

 Reducing class
size will serve to remedy the vestiges of past segre-
gation by increasing individual attention and in-
struction, as well as increasing the potential for
desegregative educational experiences for KCMSD [Kansas
City Metropolitan School District]
students by maintaining and attracting non-minority
enrollment.-  Id., at 29.
[The] State
was required to fund programs at both the 25 racially
identifiable schools as well as the 43 other schools
within the KCMSD.  Id., at 33.  
  The KCMSD was awarded an AAA rating in the
1987-1988 school year, and there is no dispute that
since that time it has -`maintained and greatly exceeded
AAA requirements.'-  19 F. 3d 393, 401 (CA8 1994)
(Beam, J., dissenting from denial of rehearing en banc). 
The total cost for these quality education programs has
exceeded $220 million.  Missouri Department of Elemen-
tary and Secondary Education, KCMSD Total Desegrega-
tion Program Expenditures (Sept. 30, 1994) (Desegrega-
tion Expenditures).

Since its inception, the magnet school program has
operated at a cost, including magnet transportation, in
excess of $448 million.  See Desegregation Expenditures. 

In April 1993, the District Court considered, but ulti-
mately rejected, the plaintiffs' and the KCMSD's pro-
posal seeking approval of a long-range magnet renewal
program that included a 10-year budget of well over
$500 million, funded by the State and the KCMSD on a
joint-and-several basis.  App. to Pet. for Cert. A-123.

 The initial phase of the capital improve-
ments plan cost $37 million.  Ibid.  The District Court
also required the KCMSD to present further capital
improvements proposals -in order to bring its facilities
to a point comparable with the facilities in neighboring
suburban school districts.-  Ibid.  In November 1986,
the District Court approved further capital improve-
ments in order to remove the vestiges of racial segrega-
tion and -to . . . attract non-minority students back to
the KCMSD.

  In September 1987, the District Court adopted, for the
most part, KCMSD's long-range capital improvements
plan at a cost in excess of $187 million.  Jenkins v.
Missouri, 672 F. Supp. 400, 408 (WD Mo. 1987).  The
plan called for the renovation of approximately 55
schools, the closure of 18 facilities, and the construction
of 17 new schools.  Id., at 405.  The District Court
rejected what it referred to as the -`patch and repair'
approach proposed by the State- because it -would not
achieve suburban comparability or the visual attractive-
ness sought by the Court as it would result in floor
coverings with unsightly sections of mismatched carpet-
ing and tile, and individual walls possessing different
shades of paint.-  Id., at 404.  The District Court rea-
soned that -if the KCMSD schools underwent the lim-
ited renovation proposed by the State, the schools would
continue to be unattractive and substandard, and would
certainly serve as a deterrent to parents considering
enrolling their children in KCMSD schools.-  Id., at 405. 
As of 1990, the District Court had ordered $260 million
in capital improvements.  Missouri v. Jenkins, 495 U. S.
33, 61 (1990) (Jenkins II) (Kennedy, J., concurring in
part and concurring in judgment).  Since then, the total
cost of capital improvements ordered has soared to over
$540 million.  

 Since that time,
however, the District Court has ordered salary assis-
tance to all but three of the approximately 5,000
KCMSD employees.  The total cost of this component of
the desegregation remedy since 1987 is over $200 mil-
lion.  See Desegregation Expenses.  

  Nor are there limits to the duration of the District
Court's involvement.  The expenditures per pupil in the
KCMSD currently far exceed those in the neighboring
SSD's.  19 F. 3d, at 399 (Beam, J., dissenting from
denial of rehearing en banc) (per-pupil costs within the
SSD's, excluding capital costs, range from $2,854 to
$5,956; per pupil costs within the KCMSD, excluding
capital costs, are $9,412); Brief for Respondent KCMSD
et al. 18, n. 5 (arguing that per pupil costs in the
KCMSD, excluding capital costs, are $7,665.18).  Sixteen
years after this litigation began, the District Court
recognized that the KCMSD has yet to offer a viable
method of financing the -wonderful school system being
built.-  App to Pet. for Cert. A-124; cf. Milliken II,
supra, at 293 (Powell, J., concurring in judgment)
(-Th[e] parties . . . have now joined forces apparently
for the purpose of extracting funds from the state trea-
sury-).  Each additional program ordered by the District
Court-and financed by the State-to increase the
-desegregative attractiveness- of the school district
makes the KCMSD more and more dependent on addi-
tional funding from the State

:> The stupid little fuckers flunked at the same rate. Improvement was 
:> non-existant.
:> Best teachers, best books, best facilities, air conditioning, free food,
:> olympic swimming pools--and guess what? Nothing changed.
:
:Document this one as well, please.

Kansas City Star Daily Newspaper
St. Louis Post-Dispatch Daily Newspaper
Wall Street Journal
The Periodical Index

also...

from:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/syllabi?schools
ftp://ftp.cwru.edu/hermes/ascii/93-1823.ZO.filt
Supreme Court Ruling Syllabus at the Above URL
Missouri vs. Jenkins

 These massive expenditures
have financed 
-high schools in which every classroom will have air
conditioning, an alarm system, and 15 microcomput-
ers; a 2,000-square-foot planetarium; green houses
and vivariums; a 25-acre farm with an air-condi-
tioned meeting room for 104 people; a Model United
Nations wired for language translation; broadcast
capable radio and television studios with an editing
and animation lab; a temperature controlled art
gallery; movie editing and screening rooms; a 3,500-
square-foot dust-free diesel mechanics room; 1,875-
square-foot elementary school animal rooms for use
in a zoo project; swimming pools; and numerous
other facilities.-  Jenkins II, 495 U. S., at 77 (Ken-
nedy, J., concurring in part and concurring in judg-
ment).
Not surprisingly, the cost of this remedial plan has -far
exceeded KCMSD's budget, or for that matter, its au-
thority to tax.-  Id., at 60.  The State, through the
operation of joint-and-several liability, has borne the
brunt of these costs.  The District Court candidly has
acknowledged that it has -allowed the District planners
to dream- and -provided the mechanism for th[ose]
dreams to be realized.-  App. to Pet. for Cert. A-133. 
In short, the District Court -has gone to great lengths
to provide KCMSD with facilities and opportunities not
available anywhere else in the country.-  Id., at A-115.

 The District Court also set out to desegregate the
KCMSD but believed that -[t]o accomplish desegregation
within the boundary lines of a school district whose
enrollment remains 68.3% black is a difficult task.

:> No. Sensible people move away from every area when it goes black, because
:> of the crime, dope, verbal and physical harrassment, immaturity, low IQ,
:> lack of success, and general incivility. 
:
:Document this one too.

Go to:
http://www.townhall.com/townhall/FRC/insight/is95j3cr.html

YOUTH GANGS: OUT OF CONTROL AND GETTING WORSE
by Robert L. Maginnis


A recent decline in violent crime appears to be more a result of
fewer teenagers than better law enforcement. When the current
bumper crop of elementary-age children become adolescents, the
violent crime rate is likely to explode. 

A growing chorus of experts warn of the impending youth crime
crisis. Reggie Walton, a Washington, D.C. Superior Court judge
who handles juvenile cases, blames it on the disappearance of
fathers. Walton says fathers leave children to be raised by young
mothers who themselves are often struggling with mental or
emotional problems, limited education, poverty and addiction.
Walton labels these children "walking time bombs."[1] 

 Today, most gangs are racially
          segregated (54.6 percent are African American and 32.6
          percent are Hispanic). Blacks and Hispanics constitute the
          largest numbers of youths arrested for gang offenses
          today.[34] 

The all-black rival gangs, the Crips and the Bloods, have an
          estimated 70,000 members in Los Angeles County alone.[35]
          They have franchises in most states and metropolitan
          communities where they tend to dominate the crack cocaine
          trade. 

          Darlyne Pettinicchio, a probation officer in Orange County,
          California, says, "(White gangs are) punk rockers and heavy
          metalers (who) come from all socio-economic classes. They're
          of average intelligence and they're capable youngsters. They
          have very little parental authority. They're usually angry. Their
          dance is violent. Their music is violent. Their behavior is
          violent. They're into anarchy."[36] 

          There are numerous Hispanic, Satanic cult, Asian, and Stoner
          (punk rock and heavy metal) gangs. Each has a subculture
          and each tends to be very violent and involved in the use and
          or distribution of illicit drugs. 

          Economic-based gangs: Some gangs are organized around
          a commercial activity. Members may be all from a single race
          or the same neighborhood or they may be very diverse. The
          glue that holds them together is making money. 

          They often see themselves as Robin Hoods or
          Bonnie-and-Clyde types who practice their own version of free
          enterprise. A close cousin is the corporate gang, which selects
          a type of industry or business and dominates the field through
          intimidation and violence. For example, there was a
          Miami-based gang called the "Mazda boys" who specialized
          in stealing Mazda cars. 

          Territorial gangs: Territorial gangs can be from any race or
          ethnic background. They lay claim to a particular territory.
          They typically "tag" their territory with gang graffiti and are
          willing to defend their turf to the death. When their territory is
          invaded the gang provides "warriors." 

                                        WHO JOINS A GANG?

No matter the type of gang, most gang members are male. A
Chicago study of four police districts found that only 2 to 5 percent
of gang arrestees were female.[37] These females are typically
auxiliary gang members. 

Gang members range in age from 8 to 22 years old, but there are
exceptions where tenure is often well beyond 22 to perhaps more
than 40 years old.[38] A counselor in a juvenile detention facility in
California said: "(If) you find a gang member who comes from a
complete nuclear family, a kid who has never been exposed to any
kind of abuse, I'd like to meet him....a real 'gangbanger' who comes
>from  a happy, balanced home, who's got a good opinion of himself.
I don't think that kid exists."[39] 

Sydney Harris, a nationally syndicated columnist, said, "Gang
members tend to be chronic losers, who can accomplish nothing
individually, or who live in so depressed an environment that only
by banding together can they exercise any influence over their
lives. In both cases, they are as much to be pitied as
condemned."[40] 

Allen Frazier, superintendent of schools for Plymouth,
Connecticut, blames economic problems. "As people have more
economic problems in the adult world," says Frazier, "it transfers to
the young people as well....[The children] don't seem to have a
place where they are comfortable. In order to seek that, sometimes
they end up with the security of a gang....It becomes an extended
family which they may not have."[41] 

A gang researcher says, "These gang kids have nothing to do that
they perceive as useful. They are the disconnected, alienated ones.
They identify with whatever is trendy in terms of music, clothes,
and in terms of behavior. They are living entirely on the surface of
life."[42] 

Prisons are often referred to as gang training schools. Often gangs
are formed in prison and then emigrate to the streets. The
cohesion associated with jail time amplifies gang loyalty. 

Fred Williams, the executive director for Common Ground
Foundation, a Watts [Los Angeles, California] nonprofit
organization that works with gang youth, says, "Prison doesn't scare
them. It's a home away from home."[43] 


corps, "Gangs have been a major cause of the growth in violent
crime in the past decade."[2] He cited a Treasury Department
report that found the presence of rival gangs, the Bloods and the
Crips, in 35 states and 58 cities across the country. 

At the same press conference, Attorney General Janet Reno cited
the impact of disabling one gang in New Haven, Connecticut.
Eighteen members of the "Jungleboy" street gang were put in jail,
and, according to Reno, New Haven's murder rate fell by one-third
in 1993.[3] 

Given that youth gangs account for a disproportionate share of
youth violence, their potential for contributing to a future crime
wave is enormous. 

At the current growth rate, there will be nearly half-a-million more
adolescent boys in the year 2010 than today. That means if current
trends continue, we will have perhaps 30,000 more chronic juvenile
delinquents by the year 2010 than today. Chronic youth offenders
comprise 7 percent of all male teenagers and they commit 70
percent of all serious crime for their age group.[4] 

If history is any predictor, these adolescents will be more violent
than the current delinquents. According to the Department of
Justice, today's youth are extremely violent. Firearms are now used
by three-fourths of all juvenile homicide offenders and one-third of
all reported violent crime offenders are less than 21 years old.
Juvenile arrests for all violent crime have increased from 1983 to
1992 in spite of the decline in the overall number of teenagers in
the U.S. population. The government estimates that the juvenile
arrest rate for major violent crime will more than double by the
year 2010.[5] 

This ticking youth time bomb is evident everywhere. California
authorities report that incarcerations of violent youth increased
>from  44 percent of the prison population in 1987 to 61 percent in
1992[6]. There is no sign of a turnaround. Officials in the upscale
Washington, D.C. suburb of Fairfax, Virginia, report that the
number of juveniles arrested for violent crimes has climbed 61
percent since 1991. The number of youth arrested with weapons
has risen 118 percent since 1989.[7] 

A 1993 report by the Washington State Department of Community
Development states, "Our state and nation are awash in a tidal
wave of violence, violence that has reached epidemic proportions
especially among our youngest generation."[8] 

Professor Dean Rojek, a sociologist at the University of Georgia,
says, "For decades violent crime was driven mostly by adults, with
kids involved mostly in property crime....What's been changing is
that you have juveniles becoming much more involved in violent
offenses, with the use of weapons. If we add to this more babies,
you could have a multiplier effect...a mini explosion [in violent
crime by youth]."[9] 

Attorney General Janet Reno agrees. "Unless we act now," says
Reno, "to stop young people from choosing a life of violence and
crime, the beginning of the 21st century could bring levels of
violent crime to our community that far exceed what we have
experienced."[10] 

                    GANGS EXACERBATE THE PROBLEM

The bomb's fuse is shortened by the youth gang phenomenon.
California authorities describe the youth gang as a "violent and
insidious new form of organized crime. Heavily armed with
sophisticated weapons, (gangs) are involved in drug trafficking,
witness intimidation, extortion, and bloody territorial wars. In some
cases they are traveling out of state to spread their violence and
crime."[11] 

According to the FBI, "The fastest growing murder circumstance is
juvenile gang killings."[12] Almost one-third of Los Angeles'
homicides are gang related.[13] Nationwide, the rate of violent
offenses by gang members is three times as high as for non-gang
delinquents.[14] 

There's something about young males belonging to a gang that
makes them more violent. 

          Orange County, California probation statistics indicate that
          gang-related youth had significantly higher law-violation rates
          (55.1 percent) than non-gang affiliated youth (26.4
          percent).[15] A study of 20 years of data collected by
          Philadelphia's police gang unit shows that "gangs engage in
          more violent behavior than do delinquent non-gang
          groups."[16] 

          Metropolitan Life surveyed schools about gang violence. It
          found that more than half (59 percent) of law enforcement
          and one-third (34 percent) of students and teachers say gang
          or group membership is a major cause of violence in
          schools.[17] 

          A study in Wisconsin found that most violent crimes by
          youths were committed by groups of three or more. This
          "pack" behavior, not surprisingly, seems to be at the core of
          much of the rise in youth crime.[18] 

          A study of New York City teenage gunshot victims found that
          40 percent were shot during school hours. Another study
          found that of children and teenagers wounded in drive-by
          shootings in Los Angeles, 71 percent were "documented
          members of street gangs."[19] 

Not only do gang members tend to be more violent than non-gang
members, but gang membership appears to prolong one's
criminal career. One study found that a "large portion of persistent
and dangerous juvenile gang offenders become even more serious
adult offenders."[20] Another study in California found that
previously-incarcerated gang members continued their lives of
crime after being released.[21] 


:
:> Only 29% graduate from high school here, and
:> one-half of them are functionally illerate. They graduated because their
:> teachers felt sorry for them. Why? THEY ARE DUMB.
:
:Cite the source for this statistic as well.

St. Louis Post-Dispatch Daily Newspaper, a pulitizer paper.
:
:Well, I count four uncited assertions. Please provide a source citation to
:support them.

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In article <4an3g0$k7n@panix.com>, mukut@panix.com (Devadatta Mukutmoni) wrote:
> Where did you read that whites built the Indian Civilization? Is there
> a skinhead/aryan supremacist handbook that you could refer me to?
> The people of the Indus Valley civilization were certainly not very
> European looking, if the artifacts, seals and other evidences are 
> to be believed. But, then they could have been planted by the liberals/jews
> to discredit the blond blue-eyed Aryans.  :-)

> Devadatta Mukutmoni
> 
Devadatta, you and I both know that the traditional way of wiping ones ass
in India is with your bare hands. Prime Minister Desai told the entire
world that he drank his own piss. Granted, you have nice architecture, so
must be at least partly Aryan and European. I give you that. However, it
would seem that a great people like Punjabi's would invent toilet paper or
toilet leaves instead of wiping with bare hands and drinking their urine.
Have some standards, here. Please.

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In article , anakin@pinc.com
(Rajiv K. Gandhi) wrote:

:In article , potato@mo.net
:(Frank Weltner) wrote:
:
:> Bullshit. The school district in the St. Louis ghettoes have $8,500 per
:> student to spend. Whites are sending their kids to schools for $2,000 per
:
:Document this please.

St. Louis Post-Dispatch Daily Newspaper. It's liberal and a pulitzer
publication. These are the Post's figures.
:
:> IQ testing takes place BEFORE students received academic training. IQ
:> predicts how well they will do in such training environments. People do
:> not gain higher IQ no matter how hard they study. A low IQ is like a
:> permanently blind eye that will never see.
:
:IQ testing is inherently biased towards a european culture. Not to mention
:that the whole concent of IQ is highly circumspect.
:
:> Like they all get together and make up a test to shit on blacks, right?
:
:Not their intention perhaps, but it happens - read an IQ test (you can
:READ can't you?) - you will see that questions are inherently biased.
:
:> Sure. Intentionally designed. We have bussed these little apes to the very
:> best schools and they still flunk out. 

from:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/syllabi?schools
Supreme Court Decision on Missouri vs. Jenkins says..
ftp://ftp.cwru.edu/hermes/ascii/93-1823.ZO.filt
Supreme Court Ruling Syllabus at the Above URL
Missouri vs. Jenkins

Athough -there had been a trend of improvement in
academic achievement [after spending $1.5 billion extra]
, . . . the [KCMSD] school district was far
>from  reaching its maximum potential because KCMSD
is still at or below national norms at many grade lev-
els.-  Ibid.  It went on to say that with respect to qual-
ity education, -implementation of programs in and of
itself is not sufficient.  The test, after all, is whether
the vestiges of segregation, here the system-wide reduc-
tion in student achievement, have been eliminated to
the greatest extent practicable.

In Kansas City, they spent $1.5
:> billion to make the finest schools in the world for the blacks. 
:
:Document this please.

from:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/syllabi?schools
ftp://ftp.cwru.edu/hermes/ascii/93-1823.ZO.filt
Supreme Court Ruling Syllabus at the Above URL
Missouri vs. Jenkins

The Supreme Court ruled that the State of Missouri would
NOT have to fund any more special remedies in Kansas City 
where $1.5 billion was spent and the school's students 
performed no better.

Supreme Court Syllabus--------------------

 Reducing class
size will serve to remedy the vestiges of past segre-
gation by increasing individual attention and in-
struction, as well as increasing the potential for
desegregative educational experiences for KCMSD [Kansas
City Metropolitan School District]
students by maintaining and attracting non-minority
enrollment.-  Id., at 29.
[The] State
was required to fund programs at both the 25 racially
identifiable schools as well as the 43 other schools
within the KCMSD.  Id., at 33.  
  The KCMSD was awarded an AAA rating in the
1987-1988 school year, and there is no dispute that
since that time it has -`maintained and greatly exceeded
AAA requirements.'-  19 F. 3d 393, 401 (CA8 1994)
(Beam, J., dissenting from denial of rehearing en banc). 
The total cost for these quality education programs has
exceeded $220 million.  Missouri Department of Elemen-
tary and Secondary Education, KCMSD Total Desegrega-
tion Program Expenditures (Sept. 30, 1994) (Desegrega-
tion Expenditures).

Since its inception, the magnet school program has
operated at a cost, including magnet transportation, in
excess of $448 million.  See Desegregation Expenditures. 

In April 1993, the District Court considered, but ulti-
mately rejected, the plaintiffs' and the KCMSD's pro-
posal seeking approval of a long-range magnet renewal
program that included a 10-year budget of well over
$500 million, funded by the State and the KCMSD on a
joint-and-several basis.  App. to Pet. for Cert. A-123.

 The initial phase of the capital improve-
ments plan cost $37 million.  Ibid.  The District Court
also required the KCMSD to present further capital
improvements proposals -in order to bring its facilities
to a point comparable with the facilities in neighboring
suburban school districts.-  Ibid.  In November 1986,
the District Court approved further capital improve-
ments in order to remove the vestiges of racial segrega-
tion and -to . . . attract non-minority students back to
the KCMSD.

  In September 1987, the District Court adopted, for the
most part, KCMSD's long-range capital improvements
plan at a cost in excess of $187 million.  Jenkins v.
Missouri, 672 F. Supp. 400, 408 (WD Mo. 1987).  The
plan called for the renovation of approximately 55
schools, the closure of 18 facilities, and the construction
of 17 new schools.  Id., at 405.  The District Court
rejected what it referred to as the -`patch and repair'
approach proposed by the State- because it -would not
achieve suburban comparability or the visual attractive-
ness sought by the Court as it would result in floor
coverings with unsightly sections of mismatched carpet-
ing and tile, and individual walls possessing different
shades of paint.-  Id., at 404.  The District Court rea-
soned that -if the KCMSD schools underwent the lim-
ited renovation proposed by the State, the schools would
continue to be unattractive and substandard, and would
certainly serve as a deterrent to parents considering
enrolling their children in KCMSD schools.-  Id., at 405. 
As of 1990, the District Court had ordered $260 million
in capital improvements.  Missouri v. Jenkins, 495 U. S.
33, 61 (1990) (Jenkins II) (Kennedy, J., concurring in
part and concurring in judgment).  Since then, the total
cost of capital improvements ordered has soared to over
$540 million.  

 Since that time,
however, the District Court has ordered salary assis-
tance to all but three of the approximately 5,000
KCMSD employees.  The total cost of this component of
the desegregation remedy since 1987 is over $200 mil-
lion.  See Desegregation Expenses.  

  Nor are there limits to the duration of the District
Court's involvement.  The expenditures per pupil in the
KCMSD currently far exceed those in the neighboring
SSD's.  19 F. 3d, at 399 (Beam, J., dissenting from
denial of rehearing en banc) (per-pupil costs within the
SSD's, excluding capital costs, range from $2,854 to
$5,956; per pupil costs within the KCMSD, excluding
capital costs, are $9,412); Brief for Respondent KCMSD
et al. 18, n. 5 (arguing that per pupil costs in the
KCMSD, excluding capital costs, are $7,665.18).  Sixteen
years after this litigation began, the District Court
recognized that the KCMSD has yet to offer a viable
method of financing the -wonderful school system being
built.-  App to Pet. for Cert. A-124; cf. Milliken II,
supra, at 293 (Powell, J., concurring in judgment)
(-Th[e] parties . . . have now joined forces apparently
for the purpose of extracting funds from the state trea-
sury-).  Each additional program ordered by the District
Court-and financed by the State-to increase the
-desegregative attractiveness- of the school district
makes the KCMSD more and more dependent on addi-
tional funding from the State

:> The stupid little fuckers flunked at the same rate. Improvement was 
:> non-existant.
:> Best teachers, best books, best facilities, air conditioning, free food,
:> olympic swimming pools--and guess what? Nothing changed.
:
:Document this one as well, please.

Kansas City Star Daily Newspaper
St. Louis Post-Dispatch Daily Newspaper
Wall Street Journal
The Periodical Index

also...

from:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/syllabi?schools
ftp://ftp.cwru.edu/hermes/ascii/93-1823.ZO.filt
Supreme Court Ruling Syllabus at the Above URL
Missouri vs. Jenkins

 These massive expenditures
have financed 
-high schools in which every classroom will have air
conditioning, an alarm system, and 15 microcomput-
ers; a 2,000-square-foot planetarium; green houses
and vivariums; a 25-acre farm with an air-condi-
tioned meeting room for 104 people; a Model United
Nations wired for language translation; broadcast
capable radio and television studios with an editing
and animation lab; a temperature controlled art
gallery; movie editing and screening rooms; a 3,500-
square-foot dust-free diesel mechanics room; 1,875-
square-foot elementary school animal rooms for use
in a zoo project; swimming pools; and numerous
other facilities.-  Jenkins II, 495 U. S., at 77 (Ken-
nedy, J., concurring in part and concurring in judg-
ment).
Not surprisingly, the cost of this remedial plan has -far
exceeded KCMSD's budget, or for that matter, its au-
thority to tax.-  Id., at 60.  The State, through the
operation of joint-and-several liability, has borne the
brunt of these costs.  The District Court candidly has
acknowledged that it has -allowed the District planners
to dream- and -provided the mechanism for th[ose]
dreams to be realized.-  App. to Pet. for Cert. A-133. 
In short, the District Court -has gone to great lengths
to provide KCMSD with facilities and opportunities not
available anywhere else in the country.-  Id., at A-115.

 The District Court also set out to desegregate the
KCMSD but believed that -[t]o accomplish desegregation
within the boundary lines of a school district whose
enrollment remains 68.3% black is a difficult task.

:> No. Sensible people move away from every area when it goes black, because
:> of the crime, dope, verbal and physical harrassment, immaturity, low IQ,
:> lack of success, and general incivility. 
:
:Document this one too.

Go to:
http://www.townhall.com/townhall/FRC/insight/is95j3cr.html

YOUTH GANGS: OUT OF CONTROL AND GETTING WORSE
by Robert L. Maginnis


A recent decline in violent crime appears to be more a result of
fewer teenagers than better law enforcement. When the current
bumper crop of elementary-age children become adolescents, the
violent crime rate is likely to explode. 

A growing chorus of experts warn of the impending youth crime
crisis. Reggie Walton, a Washington, D.C. Superior Court judge
who handles juvenile cases, blames it on the disappearance of
fathers. Walton says fathers leave children to be raised by young
mothers who themselves are often struggling with mental or
emotional problems, limited education, poverty and addiction.
Walton labels these children "walking time bombs."[1] 

 Today, most gangs are racially
          segregated (54.6 percent are African American and 32.6
          percent are Hispanic). Blacks and Hispanics constitute the
          largest numbers of youths arrested for gang offenses
          today.[34] 

The all-black rival gangs, the Crips and the Bloods, have an
          estimated 70,000 members in Los Angeles County alone.[35]
          They have franchises in most states and metropolitan
          communities where they tend to dominate the crack cocaine
          trade. 

          Darlyne Pettinicchio, a probation officer in Orange County,
          California, says, "(White gangs are) punk rockers and heavy
          metalers (who) come from all socio-economic classes. They're
          of average intelligence and they're capable youngsters. They
          have very little parental authority. They're usually angry. Their
          dance is violent. Their music is violent. Their behavior is
          violent. They're into anarchy."[36] 

          There are numerous Hispanic, Satanic cult, Asian, and Stoner
          (punk rock and heavy metal) gangs. Each has a subculture
          and each tends to be very violent and involved in the use and
          or distribution of illicit drugs. 

          Economic-based gangs: Some gangs are organized around
          a commercial activity. Members may be all from a single race
          or the same neighborhood or they may be very diverse. The
          glue that holds them together is making money. 

          They often see themselves as Robin Hoods or
          Bonnie-and-Clyde types who practice their own version of free
          enterprise. A close cousin is the corporate gang, which selects
          a type of industry or business and dominates the field through
          intimidation and violence. For example, there was a
          Miami-based gang called the "Mazda boys" who specialized
          in stealing Mazda cars. 

          Territorial gangs: Territorial gangs can be from any race or
          ethnic background. They lay claim to a particular territory.
          They typically "tag" their territory with gang graffiti and are
          willing to defend their turf to the death. When their territory is
          invaded the gang provides "warriors." 

                                        WHO JOINS A GANG?

No matter the type of gang, most gang members are male. A
Chicago study of four police districts found that only 2 to 5 percent
of gang arrestees were female.[37] These females are typically
auxiliary gang members. 

Gang members range in age from 8 to 22 years old, but there are
exceptions where tenure is often well beyond 22 to perhaps more
than 40 years old.[38] A counselor in a juvenile detention facility in
California said: "(If) you find a gang member who comes from a
complete nuclear family, a kid who has never been exposed to any
kind of abuse, I'd like to meet him....a real 'gangbanger' who comes
>from  a happy, balanced home, who's got a good opinion of himself.
I don't think that kid exists."[39] 

Sydney Harris, a nationally syndicated columnist, said, "Gang
members tend to be chronic losers, who can accomplish nothing
individually, or who live in so depressed an environment that only
by banding together can they exercise any influence over their
lives. In both cases, they are as much to be pitied as
condemned."[40] 

Allen Frazier, superintendent of schools for Plymouth,
Connecticut, blames economic problems. "As people have more
economic problems in the adult world," says Frazier, "it transfers to
the young people as well....[The children] don't seem to have a
place where they are comfortable. In order to seek that, sometimes
they end up with the security of a gang....It becomes an extended
family which they may not have."[41] 

A gang researcher says, "These gang kids have nothing to do that
they perceive as useful. They are the disconnected, alienated ones.
They identify with whatever is trendy in terms of music, clothes,
and in terms of behavior. They are living entirely on the surface of
life."[42] 

Prisons are often referred to as gang training schools. Often gangs
are formed in prison and then emigrate to the streets. The
cohesion associated with jail time amplifies gang loyalty. 

Fred Williams, the executive director for Common Ground
Foundation, a Watts [Los Angeles, California] nonprofit
organization that works with gang youth, says, "Prison doesn't scare
them. It's a home away from home."[43] 


corps, "Gangs have been a major cause of the growth in violent
crime in the past decade."[2] He cited a Treasury Department
report that found the presence of rival gangs, the Bloods and the
Crips, in 35 states and 58 cities across the country. 

At the same press conference, Attorney General Janet Reno cited
the impact of disabling one gang in New Haven, Connecticut.
Eighteen members of the "Jungleboy" street gang were put in jail,
and, according to Reno, New Haven's murder rate fell by one-third
in 1993.[3] 

Given that youth gangs account for a disproportionate share of
youth violence, their potential for contributing to a future crime
wave is enormous. 

At the current growth rate, there will be nearly half-a-million more
adolescent boys in the year 2010 than today. That means if current
trends continue, we will have perhaps 30,000 more chronic juvenile
delinquents by the year 2010 than today. Chronic youth offenders
comprise 7 percent of all male teenagers and they commit 70
percent of all serious crime for their age group.[4] 

If history is any predictor, these adolescents will be more violent
than the current delinquents. According to the Department of
Justice, today's youth are extremely violent. Firearms are now used
by three-fourths of all juvenile homicide offenders and one-third of
all reported violent crime offenders are less than 21 years old.
Juvenile arrests for all violent crime have increased from 1983 to
1992 in spite of the decline in the overall number of teenagers in
the U.S. population. The government estimates that the juvenile
arrest rate for major violent crime will more than double by the
year 2010.[5] 

This ticking youth time bomb is evident everywhere. California
authorities report that incarcerations of violent youth increased
>from  44 percent of the prison population in 1987 to 61 percent in
1992[6]. There is no sign of a turnaround. Officials in the upscale
Washington, D.C. suburb of Fairfax, Virginia, report that the
number of juveniles arrested for violent crimes has climbed 61
percent since 1991. The number of youth arrested with weapons
has risen 118 percent since 1989.[7] 

A 1993 report by the Washington State Department of Community
Development states, "Our state and nation are awash in a tidal
wave of violence, violence that has reached epidemic proportions
especially among our youngest generation."[8] 

Professor Dean Rojek, a sociologist at the University of Georgia,
says, "For decades violent crime was driven mostly by adults, with
kids involved mostly in property crime....What's been changing is
that you have juveniles becoming much more involved in violent
offenses, with the use of weapons. If we add to this more babies,
you could have a multiplier effect...a mini explosion [in violent
crime by youth]."[9] 

Attorney General Janet Reno agrees. "Unless we act now," says
Reno, "to stop young people from choosing a life of violence and
crime, the beginning of the 21st century could bring levels of
violent crime to our community that far exceed what we have
experienced."[10] 

                    GANGS EXACERBATE THE PROBLEM

The bomb's fuse is shortened by the youth gang phenomenon.
California authorities describe the youth gang as a "violent and
insidious new form of organized crime. Heavily armed with
sophisticated weapons, (gangs) are involved in drug trafficking,
witness intimidation, extortion, and bloody territorial wars. In some
cases they are traveling out of state to spread their violence and
crime."[11] 

According to the FBI, "The fastest growing murder circumstance is
juvenile gang killings."[12] Almost one-third of Los Angeles'
homicides are gang related.[13] Nationwide, the rate of violent
offenses by gang members is three times as high as for non-gang
delinquents.[14] 

There's something about young males belonging to a gang that
makes them more violent. 

          Orange County, California probation statistics indicate that
          gang-related youth had significantly higher law-violation rates
          (55.1 percent) than non-gang affiliated youth (26.4
          percent).[15] A study of 20 years of data collected by
          Philadelphia's police gang unit shows that "gangs engage in
          more violent behavior than do delinquent non-gang
          groups."[16] 

          Metropolitan Life surveyed schools about gang violence. It
          found that more than half (59 percent) of law enforcement
          and one-third (34 percent) of students and teachers say gang
          or group membership is a major cause of violence in
          schools.[17] 

          A study in Wisconsin found that most violent crimes by
          youths were committed by groups of three or more. This
          "pack" behavior, not surprisingly, seems to be at the core of
          much of the rise in youth crime.[18] 

          A study of New York City teenage gunshot victims found that
          40 percent were shot during school hours. Another study
          found that of children and teenagers wounded in drive-by
          shootings in Los Angeles, 71 percent were "documented
          members of street gangs."[19] 

Not only do gang members tend to be more violent than non-gang
members, but gang membership appears to prolong one's
criminal career. One study found that a "large portion of persistent
and dangerous juvenile gang offenders become even more serious
adult offenders."[20] Another study in California found that
previously-incarcerated gang members continued their lives of
crime after being released.[21] 


:
:> Only 29% graduate from high school here, and
:> one-half of them are functionally illerate. They graduated because their
:> teachers felt sorry for them. Why? THEY ARE DUMB.
:
:Cite the source for this statistic as well.

St. Louis Post-Dispatch Daily Newspaper, a pulitizer paper.
:
:Well, I count four uncited assertions. Please provide a source citation to
:support them.

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec 17 09:27:22 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article <4an3g0$k7n@panix.com>, mukut@panix.com (Devadatta Mukutmoni) wrote:
> Where did you read that whites built the Indian Civilization? Is there
> a skinhead/aryan supremacist handbook that you could refer me to?
> The people of the Indus Valley civilization were certainly not very
> European looking, if the artifacts, seals and other evidences are 
> to be believed. But, then they could have been planted by the liberals/jews
> to discredit the blond blue-eyed Aryans.  :-)

> Devadatta Mukutmoni
> 
Devadatta, you and I both know that the traditional way of wiping ones ass
in India is with your bare hands. Prime Minister Desai told the entire
world that he drank his own piss. Granted, you have nice architecture, so
must be at least partly Aryan and European. I give you that. However, it
would seem that a great people like Punjabi's would invent toilet paper or
toilet leaves instead of wiping with bare hands and drinking their urine.
Have some standards, here. Please.

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec 17 09:27:23 PST 1995
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:Snakes are gay?
:
:-DW

Absolutely, son! That's why they suck so much.

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec 17 09:27:23 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article <13DEC95.10580606.0077@UNBVM1.CSD.UNB.CA>, Keith Morrison
 wrote:

:In article  potato@mo.net
(Frank Weltner) writes:
:>>
:>> > The separation of races is anathema to all decent thinking Canadians
:>>
:>Really? When was the last time you invited a frog, an eskimo, a negro, or
:>an indian to dinner? When was the last time you offered your daughter to
:>one? It's been quite a while, friend, hasn't it?
:
:Most people don't "offer" their children to anyone.  The child goes
:out with whom they please.
:
:I just had breakfast this morning with an native American, an Indian
:(Asiatic), an African-American and a Francophone.  We all somehow
:managed to sit at the same table for breakfast and not rip each
:other's throats out over some imaginary "racial" conflict.
:
:You see, in the real world the White Power Rangers and their ideas
:are considered fairly quaint.  Childlike, even, but definetly not
:cute.
:
:--
:Keith Morrison
:t08o@unb.ca

I am proud of you. Obviously, your intellect is much elevated above mine,
enabling you to see beyond black predatory pressures that are wrecking my
neighborhood and country. It must be a very nice luxury to have. I, on the
other hand, cannot leave my house without worrying. Certainly no trips at
night. A few nights ago, the lady next door got mugged. Five staples hold
her scalp together now. Nice christmas present from the nigger elements. I
just love them niggers. I just wants to have breakfast wid em.

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec 17 09:27:24 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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:>Really? When was the last time you invited a frog, an eskimo, a negro, or
:>an indian to dinner? When was the last time you offered your daughter to
:>one? It's been quite a while, friend, hasn't it?
:
:No, it hasn't. I regularly enjoy the company of
:French-Canadians, Asiatics with diverse origins, and other
:"non-white" folks.
:


                            "How nice for you."

--Phrase used consistently by Queen Elizabeth to commoners who are happy.

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec 17 09:27:25 PST 1995
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:So a Dole win would be a victory for you guys? Or do you honestly believe
:that the polls are off by a factor of 1000, and David Duke will win a
:come-from-behind victory?
:
:Y'all love to claim that your views are shared by a majority of white
:Americans. Time to put up or shut up. I'd love to hear what outcome you
:would consider to be a victory for your cause in next year's election.
:What Presidential candidate? How many seats in Congress? How many
:governors and state legislatures? Do your mighty white avengers have to be
:openly racist, or are Pat Buchanan and Jesse Helms close enough? 
:
:I'd love to hear what outcome you expect as you predict victory. And don't
:count on the rest of us to forget your predictions in the next 11 months. 
:
:And if Clinton does win, since he's a white guy, that's a victory for you
:anyway, right? That was the criterion for success you set out above. In
:fact, defined in those terms, you are guaranteed of a win, now that Colin
:Powell is out of the race.
:
:     --------------------------------------------------------
: Andy Walton  *  atticus@mindspring.com  *  finger for e.e. cummings
:              http://www.mindspring.com/~atticus/


Andy, you are full of shit. The American people are still going along with
their federal authorities in trying to put up with black crime, whining,
excuses, children out of wedlock, rapes, murders, drugs, and other black
horrors.

However, the government is trying to push these criminal black elements
into their neighborhoods soon through Section 8, actually believing that
this will stop the blacks from being low class and criminal.

However, bad apples don't become good apples. The history of the cities
shows that for forty years the blacks have taken over one white
neighborhood after another, turning the cities into a shit hole. This is
going to happen in suburbia and exburbia. When the whites get sick of it
and realize that their entire way of life is being taken from them, their
safe communities turned into urban shit, murders in their backyards (a
friend of mine's mother had this happen in suburbia after Section 8 was
place there, so now she has to move again), then the shit will hit the
fan. We will kick the niggers harder than they have ever been kicked in
their black little fucking lives. There is going to be hell to pay. So,
just keep it up. Keep pushing. Keep putting niggers and their crime in our
face, and you will get a backlash and will surpass a fucking frontlash.
The history of integration in the USA is a history of riots, one after the
other, in Harlem, East St. Louis, Detroit, Chicago, everywhere, as the
niggers turned once decent neighborhoods into crime cells. The Brooklyn
Dodgers didn't want to leave Brooklyn, N.Y. They had to. The niggers were
killing the fans as they went to Ebbitts Field. Soon, no fans went near
there. Once the baseball team left, the entire Brooklyn Area went to shit.
Want to be killed? Walk through Flatbush, mother fucking liberal idiot.
That will shut you up. If they only cut your throat and you live, you will
have been totally converted. Most of us used to be liberals. I used to
register blacks in Mississippi. I know better now. Blacks are evil, blacks
are fuckheads, criminals, and scum. They tolerate criminals and allow them
to pull down their entire way of life. Well, fine. Their's. But not ours.
Never again ours. Keep these niggers out of our neighborhoods. It's going
to take a repeal of the civil rights act, and believe me, there is a
majority who want that. Don't fool yourself, slob. Your theories won't
look too neat when a 9mm Luger is sticking up your fucking mouth and some
nigger is yelling, "I hate you because you are a white fuck," and then
blows your life away, because you mean nothing to them. They hate you.
They are tolerating you the way a wild animal tolerates his cage. Smiles.
Calmness. Then, zap! If you think they love whites, you are full of shit.
They hate you. If they liked you, they wouldn't be living in the ghetto.
And, if you loved them, you would be in the ghetto and not in a nice, safe
white enclave. I live in the ghetto and you liberal motherfuckers aren't
here. Where are you? You are as far away as possible, using your influence
to fuck up my community. Well, fuck you, too. Get down here and enjoy
these scum, you ignorant black pandering piece of shit. A couple of nose
jobs, a $12,000 facial reconstruction, burial of your raped daughter, and
you'll hate their black asses.

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec 17 09:27:25 PST 1995
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In article ,
ncrccjc@ibm.net wrote:

: 
:> ncrccjc@ibm.net wrote:
:> 
:> 
:> 
:> 
:> >Are you writing through personal experience?
:> 
:> Yep.  I've committed the horrible atrocity of Thought Crime, and my
:> opressors have seen fit to harrass me and try and get me fired for it.
:> 
:> 
:Wow what a sad and terrible story. Why don't you give us all the details. I'm 
:sure we would all like to hear about this tragic tale of woe. By the way will 
:this be in the fiction or science fiction area.
:ncrccjc

Don't tell this idiot anything. He's beyond help. Doesn't live in the
ghetto, but LOVES blacks. Bull shit.

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec 17 09:27:26 PST 1995
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In article <4aonqo$3lt@atlas.uniserve.com>, hostrov@uniserve.com (Hilary
Ostrov) wrote:

:In <4aohlt$1q1@news3.cts.com>, brittell@cts.com (Daren Brittell)
:wrote:
:
:>ncrccjc@ibm.net wrote:
:
:
:>>Are you writing through personal experience?
:
:>Yep.  I've committed the horrible atrocity of Thought Crime, and my
:>opressors have seen fit to harrass me and try and get me fired for it.
:
:
:Naahhh... how could you be guilty of such a thing?!  Judging by your
:posts, you haven't even demonstrated that you are capable of thought,
:let alone "Thought Crime" - whatever that might be.
:
:hro
:=======================
:Hilary Ostrov

People like you who claim to love blacks never live in their communities.
Funny, how that is, isn't it? Hypocritical scum. That's what you are. Why
not move into the ghetto where the savage blacks can kill you some night?
Because you are a hypocrite--HYPOCRITE.

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec 17 09:27:27 PST 1995
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In article ,
schwartz@infinet.com (Sara aka Perrrfect) wrote:

:> Frank Weltner wrote:
:> Sure. Like South Africa, where
:> > Mandela's wife, Willie, murdered a teenager in her home and got away with
:> > it. Where Zulus kill their ANC bros. Very nice. 
:
:Excuse me, Frank, but Nelson Mandela's wife is named Winnie. Willie is the
:thing you spend your time playing with and talking out of.
: 
:Sara
:
:-- 
:
:From this, she makes a living?

I guess I got her mixed up with Willie Horton, huh? Right.

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George, knowing your love for archaeology, visit this Web Site:

Archeological Digs on CD-ROM

http://www.demon.co.uk/history/cdroms.html

You'll like it.

A little more of my middle eastern experiences.

Yes. I enjoyed my Holy Land visit. Israel is beautiful. If you ever have a
chance, do go. I was almost killed, missed by inches (1970 approximately)
by a bomb by the Wall. The shrapnel killed nine people. Pieces of them
blew by me. I had been out of Nam for about 1 year, a year of killing and
escaping, Tet Offensive 1968, and the gooks were over-running our
positions, filling our gopher holes with blood and terror. The concussion
in Jerusalem by the Wall of Herod stunned me for three or four days.
Fortunately, I had turned the corner, because as usual God was with me.
One-half second later, and I'd be dead. As it was people and pieces of
those walking and laughing just a few feet behind me flew past in the air.
One was a little girl. She was smiling as she went past, her arms flailing
good-bye in her exit scene, a reddening death dance that has recurrently
haunted my sleep and my dreams. I can't let her go. She lives in me only,
a little jewish girl undergoing what jews have gotten for years,
suffering, and for what?

I cried, because it missed me, and remembered my dead buddies, and the
little girl's face smiling innocently in the red rush of goop. I had been
terribly injured in Nam and thought this type of thing was over for me,
wondered why I lived and so many others I knew died in the tet offensive.
Always felt guilty I lived. Still do. Can't shake it. I felt, staring half
unconscious at the Wailing Wall of Herod's Temple and that little girl's
smiling face and waving good-bye hands that I would never get out of
combat, that the Jews, Christ, I were born to suffer, suffer, suffer,
forever, never dying, always coming back up for more of the bullshit. Like
it was haunting me. Blood smells were my bag which I hauled like Sysiphus
up the hill only to see it coming back upon me again and again, smearing
me with its gastric, horrid mush. I staggered around for awhile, still
stunned. People were screaming. I cried because I lived, and the little
innocent, happy Jewish girl was dead. It was unfair. No one can be more
hysterical than someone from the Mediterrean Basin. They were all
screaming and howling that mournful wail of the Jews when the horror
returns to them. Poor bastards. Eventually, I fell asleep up on the Mount
where the Dome of the Rock watches in mute, silent, blue-golden hostility
at the raging conflict, like the dismantled eye of God poised forever on
us mortals. 

As the blood and bones flew by me in that instant, I felt the horror of
the history of this area, all mankind, killing, maiming, sticking each
other with pikes, tearing with shrapnel, all the flags, past glories,
whimpers, screams, never ending. And the little girl, always the little
girl. There is a solid recurrence in history, throughout all ages, again
and again, much akin to the repetitions in the OT and NT, Ovid, Homer,
Virgil, the weaving and unweaving of Penelope's rug. Pain. Killing. Peace.
War. We shuttle through the loom, attached to the wooden thong like little
slaves and are folded in time through the strands, all tossed together,
pushed cleanly into straight stitches, and cast to the floor to be tromped
upon.

More later.

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You know, folks, this is really ignorant. I have given excellent citations
for this idiot, and he complains. You read what I have here. If this
doesn't answer every one of the pertinent questions about how spending
money to educate niggers doesn't work, then I want to know what does.
Below, I have given parts of the Supreme Court Opinion, newspapers in
several cities, national newspaper, etc., but this idiot is acting like I
didn't answer his stupid questions. I did.

Please read this entire long reply and clip it out for future reference.
It includes the URL's for these answers as well.

This is further evidence that niggers are stupid!

Frank Weltner

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In article , potato@mo.net
(Frank Weltner) wrote:

:In article , anakin@pinc.com
:(Rajiv K. Gandhi) wrote:
:
::In article , potato@mo.net
::(Frank Weltner) wrote:
::
::> Bullshit. The school district in the St. Louis ghettoes have $8,500 per
::> student to spend. Whites are sending their kids to schools for $2,000 per
::
::Document this please.
:
:St. Louis Post-Dispatch Daily Newspaper. It's liberal and a pulitzer
:publication. These are the Post's figures.
::
::> IQ testing takes place BEFORE students received academic training. IQ
::> predicts how well they will do in such training environments. People do
::> not gain higher IQ no matter how hard they study. A low IQ is like a
::> permanently blind eye that will never see.
::
::IQ testing is inherently biased towards a european culture. Not to mention
::that the whole concent of IQ is highly circumspect.
::
::> Like they all get together and make up a test to shit on blacks, right?
::
::Not their intention perhaps, but it happens - read an IQ test (you can
::READ can't you?) - you will see that questions are inherently biased.
::
::> Sure. Intentionally designed. We have bussed these little apes to the very
::> best schools and they still flunk out. 
:
:from:
:http://www.law.cornell.edu/syllabi?schools
:Supreme Court Decision on Missouri vs. Jenkins says..
:ftp://ftp.cwru.edu/hermes/ascii/93-1823.ZO.filt
:Supreme Court Ruling Syllabus at the Above URL
:Missouri vs. Jenkins
:
:Athough -there had been a trend of improvement in
:academic achievement [after spending $1.5 billion extra]
:, . . . the [KCMSD] school district was far
:from reaching its maximum potential because KCMSD
:is still at or below national norms at many grade lev-
:els.-  Ibid.  It went on to say that with respect to qual-
:ity education, -implementation of programs in and of
:itself is not sufficient.  The test, after all, is whether
:the vestiges of segregation, here the system-wide reduc-
:tion in student achievement, have been eliminated to
:the greatest extent practicable.
:
:In Kansas City, they spent $1.5
::> billion to make the finest schools in the world for the blacks. 
::
::Document this please.
:
:from:
:http://www.law.cornell.edu/syllabi?schools
:ftp://ftp.cwru.edu/hermes/ascii/93-1823.ZO.filt
:Supreme Court Ruling Syllabus at the Above URL
:Missouri vs. Jenkins
:
:The Supreme Court ruled that the State of Missouri would
:NOT have to fund any more special remedies in Kansas City 
:where $1.5 billion was spent and the school's students 
:performed no better.
:
:Supreme Court Syllabus--------------------
:
: Reducing class
:size will serve to remedy the vestiges of past segre-
:gation by increasing individual attention and in-
:struction, as well as increasing the potential for
:desegregative educational experiences for KCMSD [Kansas
:City Metropolitan School District]
:students by maintaining and attracting non-minority
:enrollment.-  Id., at 29.
:[The] State
:was required to fund programs at both the 25 racially
:identifiable schools as well as the 43 other schools
:within the KCMSD.  Id., at 33.  
:  The KCMSD was awarded an AAA rating in the
:1987-1988 school year, and there is no dispute that
:since that time it has -`maintained and greatly exceeded
:AAA requirements.'-  19 F. 3d 393, 401 (CA8 1994)
:(Beam, J., dissenting from denial of rehearing en banc). 
:The total cost for these quality education programs has
:exceeded $220 million.  Missouri Department of Elemen-
:tary and Secondary Education, KCMSD Total Desegrega-
:tion Program Expenditures (Sept. 30, 1994) (Desegrega-
:tion Expenditures).
:
:Since its inception, the magnet school program has
:operated at a cost, including magnet transportation, in
:excess of $448 million.  See Desegregation Expenditures. 
:
:In April 1993, the District Court considered, but ulti-
:mately rejected, the plaintiffs' and the KCMSD's pro-
:posal seeking approval of a long-range magnet renewal
:program that included a 10-year budget of well over
:$500 million, funded by the State and the KCMSD on a
:joint-and-several basis.  App. to Pet. for Cert. A-123.
:
: The initial phase of the capital improve-
:ments plan cost $37 million.  Ibid.  The District Court
:also required the KCMSD to present further capital
:improvements proposals -in order to bring its facilities
:to a point comparable with the facilities in neighboring
:suburban school districts.-  Ibid.  In November 1986,
:the District Court approved further capital improve-
:ments in order to remove the vestiges of racial segrega-
:tion and -to . . . attract non-minority students back to
:the KCMSD.
:
:  In September 1987, the District Court adopted, for the
:most part, KCMSD's long-range capital improvements
:plan at a cost in excess of $187 million.  Jenkins v.
:Missouri, 672 F. Supp. 400, 408 (WD Mo. 1987).  The
:plan called for the renovation of approximately 55
:schools, the closure of 18 facilities, and the construction
:of 17 new schools.  Id., at 405.  The District Court
:rejected what it referred to as the -`patch and repair'
:approach proposed by the State- because it -would not
:achieve suburban comparability or the visual attractive-
:ness sought by the Court as it would result in floor
:coverings with unsightly sections of mismatched carpet-
:ing and tile, and individual walls possessing different
:shades of paint.-  Id., at 404.  The District Court rea-
:soned that -if the KCMSD schools underwent the lim-
:ited renovation proposed by the State, the schools would
:continue to be unattractive and substandard, and would
:certainly serve as a deterrent to parents considering
:enrolling their children in KCMSD schools.-  Id., at 405. 
:As of 1990, the District Court had ordered $260 million
:in capital improvements.  Missouri v. Jenkins, 495 U. S.
:33, 61 (1990) (Jenkins II) (Kennedy, J., concurring in
:part and concurring in judgment).  Since then, the total
:cost of capital improvements ordered has soared to over
:$540 million.  
:
: Since that time,
:however, the District Court has ordered salary assis-
:tance to all but three of the approximately 5,000
:KCMSD employees.  The total cost of this component of
:the desegregation remedy since 1987 is over $200 mil-
:lion.  See Desegregation Expenses.  
:
:  Nor are there limits to the duration of the District
:Court's involvement.  The expenditures per pupil in the
:KCMSD currently far exceed those in the neighboring
:SSD's.  19 F. 3d, at 399 (Beam, J., dissenting from
:denial of rehearing en banc) (per-pupil costs within the
:SSD's, excluding capital costs, range from $2,854 to
:$5,956; per pupil costs within the KCMSD, excluding
:capital costs, are $9,412); Brief for Respondent KCMSD
:et al. 18, n. 5 (arguing that per pupil costs in the
:KCMSD, excluding capital costs, are $7,665.18).  Sixteen
:years after this litigation began, the District Court
:recognized that the KCMSD has yet to offer a viable
:method of financing the -wonderful school system being
:built.-  App to Pet. for Cert. A-124; cf. Milliken II,
:supra, at 293 (Powell, J., concurring in judgment)
:(-Th[e] parties . . . have now joined forces apparently
:for the purpose of extracting funds from the state trea-
:sury-).  Each additional program ordered by the District
:Court-and financed by the State-to increase the
:-desegregative attractiveness- of the school district
:makes the KCMSD more and more dependent on addi-
:tional funding from the State
:
::> The stupid little fuckers flunked at the same rate. Improvement was 
::> non-existant.
::> Best teachers, best books, best facilities, air conditioning, free food,
::> olympic swimming pools--and guess what? Nothing changed.
::
::Document this one as well, please.
:
:Kansas City Star Daily Newspaper
:St. Louis Post-Dispatch Daily Newspaper
:Wall Street Journal
:The Periodical Index
:
:also...
:
:from:
:http://www.law.cornell.edu/syllabi?schools
:ftp://ftp.cwru.edu/hermes/ascii/93-1823.ZO.filt
:Supreme Court Ruling Syllabus at the Above URL
:Missouri vs. Jenkins
:
: These massive expenditures
:have financed 
:-high schools in which every classroom will have air
:conditioning, an alarm system, and 15 microcomput-
:ers; a 2,000-square-foot planetarium; green houses
:and vivariums; a 25-acre farm with an air-condi-
:tioned meeting room for 104 people; a Model United
:Nations wired for language translation; broadcast
:capable radio and television studios with an editing
:and animation lab; a temperature controlled art
:gallery; movie editing and screening rooms; a 3,500-
:square-foot dust-free diesel mechanics room; 1,875-
:square-foot elementary school animal rooms for use
:in a zoo project; swimming pools; and numerous
:other facilities.-  Jenkins II, 495 U. S., at 77 (Ken-
:nedy, J., concurring in part and concurring in judg-
:ment).
:Not surprisingly, the cost of this remedial plan has -far
:exceeded KCMSD's budget, or for that matter, its au-
:thority to tax.-  Id., at 60.  The State, through the
:operation of joint-and-several liability, has borne the
:brunt of these costs.  The District Court candidly has
:acknowledged that it has -allowed the District planners
:to dream- and -provided the mechanism for th[ose]
:dreams to be realized.-  App. to Pet. for Cert. A-133. 
:In short, the District Court -has gone to great lengths
:to provide KCMSD with facilities and opportunities not
:available anywhere else in the country.-  Id., at A-115.
:
: The District Court also set out to desegregate the
:KCMSD but believed that -[t]o accomplish desegregation
:within the boundary lines of a school district whose
:enrollment remains 68.3% black is a difficult task.
:
::> No. Sensible people move away from every area when it goes black, because
::> of the crime, dope, verbal and physical harrassment, immaturity, low IQ,
::> lack of success, and general incivility. 
::
::Document this one too.
:
:Go to:
:http://www.townhall.com/townhall/FRC/insight/is95j3cr.html
:
:YOUTH GANGS: OUT OF CONTROL AND GETTING WORSE
:by Robert L. Maginnis
:
:
:A recent decline in violent crime appears to be more a result of
:fewer teenagers than better law enforcement. When the current
:bumper crop of elementary-age children become adolescents, the
:violent crime rate is likely to explode. 
:
:A growing chorus of experts warn of the impending youth crime
:crisis. Reggie Walton, a Washington, D.C. Superior Court judge
:who handles juvenile cases, blames it on the disappearance of
:fathers. Walton says fathers leave children to be raised by young
:mothers who themselves are often struggling with mental or
:emotional problems, limited education, poverty and addiction.
:Walton labels these children "walking time bombs."[1] 
:
: Today, most gangs are racially
:          segregated (54.6 percent are African American and 32.6
:          percent are Hispanic). Blacks and Hispanics constitute the
:          largest numbers of youths arrested for gang offenses
:          today.[34] 
:
:The all-black rival gangs, the Crips and the Bloods, have an
:          estimated 70,000 members in Los Angeles County alone.[35]
:          They have franchises in most states and metropolitan
:          communities where they tend to dominate the crack cocaine
:          trade. 
:
:          Darlyne Pettinicchio, a probation officer in Orange County,
:          California, says, "(White gangs are) punk rockers and heavy
:          metalers (who) come from all socio-economic classes. They're
:          of average intelligence and they're capable youngsters. They
:          have very little parental authority. They're usually angry. Their
:          dance is violent. Their music is violent. Their behavior is
:          violent. They're into anarchy."[36] 
:
:          There are numerous Hispanic, Satanic cult, Asian, and Stoner
:          (punk rock and heavy metal) gangs. Each has a subculture
:          and each tends to be very violent and involved in the use and
:          or distribution of illicit drugs. 
:
:          Economic-based gangs: Some gangs are organized around
:          a commercial activity. Members may be all from a single race
:          or the same neighborhood or they may be very diverse. The
:          glue that holds them together is making money. 
:
:          They often see themselves as Robin Hoods or
:          Bonnie-and-Clyde types who practice their own version of free
:          enterprise. A close cousin is the corporate gang, which selects
:          a type of industry or business and dominates the field through
:          intimidation and violence. For example, there was a
:          Miami-based gang called the "Mazda boys" who specialized
:          in stealing Mazda cars. 
:
:          Territorial gangs: Territorial gangs can be from any race or
:          ethnic background. They lay claim to a particular territory.
:          They typically "tag" their territory with gang graffiti and are
:          willing to defend their turf to the death. When their territory is
:          invaded the gang provides "warriors." 
:
:                                        WHO JOINS A GANG?
:
:No matter the type of gang, most gang members are male. A
:Chicago study of four police districts found that only 2 to 5 percent
:of gang arrestees were female.[37] These females are typically
:auxiliary gang members. 
:
:Gang members range in age from 8 to 22 years old, but there are
:exceptions where tenure is often well beyond 22 to perhaps more
:than 40 years old.[38] A counselor in a juvenile detention facility in
:California said: "(If) you find a gang member who comes from a
:complete nuclear family, a kid who has never been exposed to any
:kind of abuse, I'd like to meet him....a real 'gangbanger' who comes
:from a happy, balanced home, who's got a good opinion of himself.
:I don't think that kid exists."[39] 
:
:Sydney Harris, a nationally syndicated columnist, said, "Gang
:members tend to be chronic losers, who can accomplish nothing
:individually, or who live in so depressed an environment that only
:by banding together can they exercise any influence over their
:lives. In both cases, they are as much to be pitied as
:condemned."[40] 
:
:Allen Frazier, superintendent of schools for Plymouth,
:Connecticut, blames economic problems. "As people have more
:economic problems in the adult world," says Frazier, "it transfers to
:the young people as well....[The children] don't seem to have a
:place where they are comfortable. In order to seek that, sometimes
:they end up with the security of a gang....It becomes an extended
:family which they may not have."[41] 
:
:A gang researcher says, "These gang kids have nothing to do that
:they perceive as useful. They are the disconnected, alienated ones.
:They identify with whatever is trendy in terms of music, clothes,
:and in terms of behavior. They are living entirely on the surface of
:life."[42] 
:
:Prisons are often referred to as gang training schools. Often gangs
:are formed in prison and then emigrate to the streets. The
:cohesion associated with jail time amplifies gang loyalty. 
:
:Fred Williams, the executive director for Common Ground
:Foundation, a Watts [Los Angeles, California] nonprofit
:organization that works with gang youth, says, "Prison doesn't scare
:them. It's a home away from home."[43] 
:
:
:corps, "Gangs have been a major cause of the growth in violent
:crime in the past decade."[2] He cited a Treasury Department
:report that found the presence of rival gangs, the Bloods and the
:Crips, in 35 states and 58 cities across the country. 
:
:At the same press conference, Attorney General Janet Reno cited
:the impact of disabling one gang in New Haven, Connecticut.
:Eighteen members of the "Jungleboy" street gang were put in jail,
:and, according to Reno, New Haven's murder rate fell by one-third
:in 1993.[3] 
:
:Given that youth gangs account for a disproportionate share of
:youth violence, their potential for contributing to a future crime
:wave is enormous. 
:
:At the current growth rate, there will be nearly half-a-million more
:adolescent boys in the year 2010 than today. That means if current
:trends continue, we will have perhaps 30,000 more chronic juvenile
:delinquents by the year 2010 than today. Chronic youth offenders
:comprise 7 percent of all male teenagers and they commit 70
:percent of all serious crime for their age group.[4] 
:
:If history is any predictor, these adolescents will be more violent
:than the current delinquents. According to the Department of
:Justice, today's youth are extremely violent. Firearms are now used
:by three-fourths of all juvenile homicide offenders and one-third of
:all reported violent crime offenders are less than 21 years old.
:Juvenile arrests for all violent crime have increased from 1983 to
:1992 in spite of the decline in the overall number of teenagers in
:the U.S. population. The government estimates that the juvenile
:arrest rate for major violent crime will more than double by the
:year 2010.[5] 
:
:This ticking youth time bomb is evident everywhere. California
:authorities report that incarcerations of violent youth increased
:from 44 percent of the prison population in 1987 to 61 percent in
:1992[6]. There is no sign of a turnaround. Officials in the upscale
:Washington, D.C. suburb of Fairfax, Virginia, report that the
:number of juveniles arrested for violent crimes has climbed 61
:percent since 1991. The number of youth arrested with weapons
:has risen 118 percent since 1989.[7] 
:
:A 1993 report by the Washington State Department of Community
:Development states, "Our state and nation are awash in a tidal
:wave of violence, violence that has reached epidemic proportions
:especially among our youngest generation."[8] 
:
:Professor Dean Rojek, a sociologist at the University of Georgia,
:says, "For decades violent crime was driven mostly by adults, with
:kids involved mostly in property crime....What's been changing is
:that you have juveniles becoming much more involved in violent
:offenses, with the use of weapons. If we add to this more babies,
:you could have a multiplier effect...a mini explosion [in violent
:crime by youth]."[9] 
:
:Attorney General Janet Reno agrees. "Unless we act now," says
:Reno, "to stop young people from choosing a life of violence and
:crime, the beginning of the 21st century could bring levels of
:violent crime to our community that far exceed what we have
:experienced."[10] 
:
:                    GANGS EXACERBATE THE PROBLEM
:
:The bomb's fuse is shortened by the youth gang phenomenon.
:California authorities describe the youth gang as a "violent and
:insidious new form of organized crime. Heavily armed with
:sophisticated weapons, (gangs) are involved in drug trafficking,
:witness intimidation, extortion, and bloody territorial wars. In some
:cases they are traveling out of state to spread their violence and
:crime."[11] 
:
:According to the FBI, "The fastest growing murder circumstance is
:juvenile gang killings."[12] Almost one-third of Los Angeles'
:homicides are gang related.[13] Nationwide, the rate of violent
:offenses by gang members is three times as high as for non-gang
:delinquents.[14] 
:
:There's something about young males belonging to a gang that
:makes them more violent. 
:
:          Orange County, California probation statistics indicate that
:          gang-related youth had significantly higher law-violation rates
:          (55.1 percent) than non-gang affiliated youth (26.4
:          percent).[15] A study of 20 years of data collected by
:          Philadelphia's police gang unit shows that "gangs engage in
:          more violent behavior than do delinquent non-gang
:          groups."[16] 
:
:          Metropolitan Life surveyed schools about gang violence. It
:          found that more than half (59 percent) of law enforcement
:          and one-third (34 percent) of students and teachers say gang
:          or group membership is a major cause of violence in
:          schools.[17] 
:
:          A study in Wisconsin found that most violent crimes by
:          youths were committed by groups of three or more. This
:          "pack" behavior, not surprisingly, seems to be at the core of
:          much of the rise in youth crime.[18] 
:
:          A study of New York City teenage gunshot victims found that
:          40 percent were shot during school hours. Another study
:          found that of children and teenagers wounded in drive-by
:          shootings in Los Angeles, 71 percent were "documented
:          members of street gangs."[19] 
:
:Not only do gang members tend to be more violent than non-gang
:members, but gang membership appears to prolong one's
:criminal career. One study found that a "large portion of persistent
:and dangerous juvenile gang offenders become even more serious
:adult offenders."[20] Another study in California found that
:previously-incarcerated gang members continued their lives of
:crime after being released.[21] 
:
:
::
::> Only 29% graduate from high school here, and
::> one-half of them are functionally illerate. They graduated because their
::> teachers felt sorry for them. Why? THEY ARE DUMB.
::
::Cite the source for this statistic as well.
:
:St. Louis Post-Dispatch Daily Newspaper, a pulitizer paper.
::
::Well, I count four uncited assertions. Please provide a source citation to
::support them.
:
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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec 17 14:20:03 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article <30CF9DC8.2B6B@scott.net>, evil Beavis  wrote:

:Frank Weltner wrote:
:> Sure. Like Nigeria where they kill their Nobel Prize winners. Where
:> corruption is rampant, AIDS is rampant, fucking 5 women per day is
:> rampant, no going to school is rampant. 
:
:
:Have you still not comprehended that the Nobel Prize winner in literature 
:from Nigeria, Mr. Wole-Soyinka has not been executed by anyone. I though I 
:explained this to you, then again, you are an idiot...
:
:
:Sure. Like South Africa, where
:> Mandela's wife, Willie, murdered a teenager in her home and got away with
:> it. Where Zulus kill their ANC bros. Very nice. 
:
:Well, Zulus and Xhosas aren't anymore brothers than Germans and frenchmen, 
:and look at that nice thing called WWI. More people died at the battle of 
:Somme than in any Zulu - Xhosa conflict.
:
:eB

You are a sand flea.

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec 17 15:11:07 PST 1995
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George, knowing your love for archaeology, visit this Web Site:

Archeological Digs on CD-ROM

http://www.demon.co.uk/history/cdroms.html

You'll like it.

A little more of my middle eastern experiences.

Yes. I enjoyed my Holy Land visit. Israel is beautiful. If you ever have a
chance, do go. I was almost killed, missed by inches (1970 approximately)
by a bomb by the Wall. The shrapnel killed nine people. Pieces of them
blew by me. I had been out of Nam for about 1 year, a year of killing and
escaping, Tet Offensive 1968, and the gooks were over-running our
positions, filling our gopher holes with blood and terror. The concussion
in Jerusalem by the Wall of Herod stunned me for three or four days.
Fortunately, I had turned the corner, because as usual God was with me.
One-half second later, and I'd be dead. As it was people and pieces of
those walking and laughing just a few feet behind me flew past in the air.
One was a little girl. She was smiling as she went past, her arms flailing
good-bye in her exit scene, a reddening death dance that has recurrently
haunted my sleep and my dreams. I can't let her go. She lives in me only,
a little jewish girl undergoing what jews have gotten for years,
suffering, and for what?

I cried, because it missed me, and remembered my dead buddies, and the
little girl's face smiling innocently in the red rush of goop. I had been
terribly injured in Nam and thought this type of thing was over for me,
wondered why I lived and so many others I knew died in the tet offensive.
Always felt guilty I lived. Still do. Can't shake it. I felt, staring half
unconscious at the Wailing Wall of Herod's Temple and that little girl's
smiling face and waving good-bye hands that I would never get out of
combat, that the Jews, Christ, I were born to suffer, suffer, suffer,
forever, never dying, always coming back up for more of the bullshit. Like
it was haunting me. Blood smells were my bag which I hauled like Sysiphus
up the hill only to see it coming back upon me again and again, smearing
me with its gastric, horrid mush. I staggered around for awhile, still
stunned. People were screaming. I cried because I lived, and the little
innocent, happy Jewish girl was dead. It was unfair. No one can be more
hysterical than someone from the Mediterrean Basin. They were all
screaming and howling that mournful wail of the Jews when the horror
returns to them. Poor bastards. Eventually, I fell asleep up on the Mount
where the Dome of the Rock watches in mute, silent, blue-golden hostility
at the raging conflict, like the dismantled eye of God poised forever on
us mortals. 

As the blood and bones flew by me in that instant, I felt the horror of
the history of this area, all mankind, killing, maiming, sticking each
other with pikes, tearing with shrapnel, all the flags, past glories,
whimpers, screams, never ending. And the little girl, always the little
girl. There is a solid recurrence in history, throughout all ages, again
and again, much akin to the repetitions in the OT and NT, Ovid, Homer,
Virgil, the weaving and unweaving of Penelope's rug. Pain. Killing. Peace.
War. We shuttle through the loom, attached to the wooden thong like little
slaves and are folded in time through the strands, all tossed together,
pushed cleanly into straight stitches, and cast to the floor to be tromped
upon.

More later.

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec 17 15:29:28 PST 1995
Article: 10932 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power
Subject: Re: A poster-boy lib (was: What is an "Aryan": A question for so-called "white" people.)
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 12:16:01 -0600
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> Don't be silly.  Anyone who tells you that there is no substantive
> difference between a negro and a white is full of it.  And please don't
> start wailing about mulattoes, quadroons, octoroons, and the whole rest of
> it.  Mulattoes are obviously neither white nor negro.
> 
> Les

Correct. Saying that no race is "pure" is meaningless. Gold is never
"pure." Nothing on earth is "pure." However, if it bites like gold, tastes
like gold, weighs like gold, and stays eternally bright like gold and
never tarnishes, then it is gold. The same with Aryans, blacks, and
others.

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec 17 15:29:28 PST 1995
Article: 11027 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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Subject: Re: WHITE POWER FOLLOWERS PLEASE READ THIS
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 20:04:28 -0600
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:: They can have a chunk of Africa and if they don't like that then that's
:: just too bad.
:
:*sigh*  there are heaps and heaps of US citizens to whom Africa is no
:more than a potiential holiday destination.  Why should they be forced
:to go there?
:
:Because that's where they descended from?  By that logic, all "white
:Americans" should go back to Europe.
:
:--
:      +-----------------+--------------------------------------------+
:      | Alister Air     | "For a moment the rank felt as though they |
:      | Information     | had just returned from single-handedly     |
:      | Studies student | conquering a distant province.  They felt, |
:      | University of   | in fact, tremendously bucked-up, which was |
:      | Technology,     | definitely several letters of the alphabet |
:      | Sydney.         | away from how they normally felt..."       |
:      | Australia.      |    -Terry Pratchett-   "Guards! Guards!"   |
:      +--+--------------+-----------------------------------------+--+
:         |           Check out my Discworld homepage!             |
:         | http://www.progsoc.uts.edu.au/~baitoven/discworld.html |
:         +--------------------------------------------------------+

I have a better idea. Let's send the fuckers to Australia! They can fuck,
shot up dope, and hunt opals!

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec 17 15:29:29 PST 1995
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:Fuk you in the ass you backwards assed Alabama goat fuk abortion the that had 
:the nerve to live Ha!haven't you noticed the only thing that will promote the 
:longevity of the white race is by boning all the sweet women of color and 
:there by diluating the mothers race by one half? Or is this simple theory to 
:far advanced for your febel mind? once again FUCK YOU!

See? You want to live next door to this black predator, right? Oh, I just
love blacks. Yes. If you live twenty miles away, you do. Hypocrites.

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec 17 15:29:30 PST 1995
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George, knowing your love for archaeology, visit this Web Site:

Archeological Digs on CD-ROM

http://www.demon.co.uk/history/cdroms.html

You'll like it.

A little more of my middle eastern experiences.

Yes. I enjoyed my Holy Land visit. Israel is beautiful. If you ever have a
chance, do go. I was almost killed, missed by inches (1970 approximately)
by a bomb by the Wall. The shrapnel killed nine people. Pieces of them
blew by me. I had been out of Nam for about 1 year, a year of killing and
escaping, Tet Offensive 1968, and the gooks were over-running our
positions, filling our gopher holes with blood and terror. The concussion
in Jerusalem by the Wall of Herod stunned me for three or four days.
Fortunately, I had turned the corner, because as usual God was with me.
One-half second later, and I'd be dead. As it was people and pieces of
those walking and laughing just a few feet behind me flew past in the air.
One was a little girl. She was smiling as she went past, her arms flailing
good-bye in her exit scene, a reddening death dance that has recurrently
haunted my sleep and my dreams. I can't let her go. She lives in me only,
a little jewish girl undergoing what jews have gotten for years,
suffering, and for what?

I cried, because it missed me, and remembered my dead buddies, and the
little girl's face smiling innocently in the red rush of goop. I had been
terribly injured in Nam and thought this type of thing was over for me,
wondered why I lived and so many others I knew died in the tet offensive.
Always felt guilty I lived. Still do. Can't shake it. I felt, staring half
unconscious at the Wailing Wall of Herod's Temple and that little girl's
smiling face and waving good-bye hands that I would never get out of
combat, that the Jews, Christ, I were born to suffer, suffer, suffer,
forever, never dying, always coming back up for more of the bullshit. Like
it was haunting me. Blood smells were my bag which I hauled like Sysiphus
up the hill only to see it coming back upon me again and again, smearing
me with its gastric, horrid mush. I staggered around for awhile, still
stunned. People were screaming. I cried because I lived, and the little
innocent, happy Jewish girl was dead. It was unfair. No one can be more
hysterical than someone from the Mediterrean Basin. They were all
screaming and howling that mournful wail of the Jews when the horror
returns to them. Poor bastards. Eventually, I fell asleep up on the Mount
where the Dome of the Rock watches in mute, silent, blue-golden hostility
at the raging conflict, like the dismantled eye of God poised forever on
us mortals. 

As the blood and bones flew by me in that instant, I felt the horror of
the history of this area, all mankind, killing, maiming, sticking each
other with pikes, tearing with shrapnel, all the flags, past glories,
whimpers, screams, never ending. And the little girl, always the little
girl. There is a solid recurrence in history, throughout all ages, again
and again, much akin to the repetitions in the OT and NT, Ovid, Homer,
Virgil, the weaving and unweaving of Penelope's rug. Pain. Killing. Peace.
War. We shuttle through the loom, attached to the wooden thong like little
slaves and are folded in time through the strands, all tossed together,
pushed cleanly into straight stitches, and cast to the floor to be tromped
upon.

More later.

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec 17 15:29:31 PST 1995
Article: 11071 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power
Subject: Re: Crazy Jeannie's so STUPID! (was: WP Race-Traitors)
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 "Free Mumia Abu-Jamal."

I fuck Mumia Abu-Jamal in the face. 

(After I tie his hands off the little white girl's throat.)

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec 17 15:29:32 PST 1995
Article: 11117 of alt.politics.white-power
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Subject: Re: A poster-boy lib (was: What is an "Aryan": A question for so-called "white" people.)
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> Ah, finally. Some meat in a racist statement. I'd like to learn more as
> I'm unfamiliar with modern racist arguments.
> 
> Perhaps you would be so kind as to start by dealing with the two assumptions 
> in your argument.
> 
> Assumption #1) 
> One can draw a line between races. So please tell me how that's done.

Well, sir, you simply open your eyes and look around. Those who are black
and of low civility step to the side. Whites who are of low civility and
lawlessness step to the side. Pretty darned simple, when you get down to
it.
> 
> Assumption #2)
> Someone has to decide who fits where. What is that decision based on?

We will decide by democrat vote, and NOT by bureaucratic decisions.

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec 17 15:29:33 PST 1995
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Subject: Re: Crazy Jeannie's so STUPID! (was: WP Race-Traitors)
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> >       "Have you stopped fucking your dog yet, Doogie?"

There's no time. I have been standing in line behind you for three days
now. When will you be done? Jeez, if you like my dog that much, maybe you
two ought to get married. The gene pool needs stirring again.

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec 17 16:27:27 PST 1995
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George Graves, thanks, for the letter. If you like my trip to Israel,
you'll like this:

Visit this Web Site:

Archeological Digs on CD-ROM

http://www.demon.co.uk/history/cdroms.html

You'll like it.

A little more of my experiences.

Yes. I enjoyed my Holy Land visit. If you ever have a chance, do go. I was
almost killed, missed by inches (1970 approximately) by a bomb by the
Wall. The shrapnel killed nine people. Pieces of them blew by me. I had
been out of Nam for about 1 year, a year of killing and escaping, Tet
Offensive 1968, and the Kongs were over-running our positions, filling our
gopher holes with blood and terror. The concussion in Jerusalem by the
Wall of Herod stunned me for three or four days. Fortunately, I had turned
the corner, because as usual God was with me. One-half second later, and
I'd be dead. As it was people and pieces of those walking and laughing
just a few feet behind me flew past in the air. One was a little girl. She
was smiling as she went past, her arms flailing good-bye in her exit
scene, a reddening death dance.

I cried, because it missed me, and remembered my dead buddies, and the
little girl's face smiling innocently in the red rush of goop. I had been
terribly injured in Nam and thought this type of thing was over for me,
wondered why I lived and so many others I knew died in the tet offensive.
Always felt guilty I lived. Still do. Can't shake it. I felt, staring half
unconscious at the Wailing Wall of Herod's Temple and that little girl's
smiling face and waving good-bye hands that I would never get out of
combat, that the Jews, Christ, I were born to suffer, suffer, suffer,
forever, never dying, always coming back up for more of the bullshit. Like
it was haunting me. Blood smells were my bag which I hauled like Sysiphus
up the hill only to see it coming back upon me again and again. I
staggered around for awhile, still stunned. People were screaming. No one
can be more hysterical than someone from the Mediterrean Basin.
Eventually, I fell asleep up on the Mount where the Dome of the Rock
watches in mute, silent, blue-golden hostility at the raging conflict,
like the dismantled eye of God poised forever on us mortals. 

As the blood and bones flew by me in that instant, I felt the horror of
the history of this area, all mankind, killing, maiming, sticking each
other with pikes, tearing with shrapnel, all the flags, past glories,
whimpers, screams, never ending. And the little girl, always the little
girl. There is a solid recurrence in history, throughout all ages, again
and again, much akin to the repetitions in the OT and NT, Ovid, Homer,
Virgil, the weaving and unweaving of Penelope's rug. Pain. Killing. Peace.
War. We shuttle through the loom, attached to the wooden thong like little
slaves and are folded in time through the strands, all tossed together,
pushed cleanly into straight stitches, and cast to the floor to be tromped
upon.

More later.

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec 17 17:54:51 PST 1995
Article: 50 of alt.fan.ernst-zundel
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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George Graves, thanks, for the letter. If you like my trip to Israel,
you'll like this:

Visit this Web Site:

Archeological Digs on CD-ROM

http://www.demon.co.uk/history/cdroms.html

You'll like it.

A little more of my experiences.

Yes. I enjoyed my Holy Land visit. If you ever have a chance, do go. I was
almost killed, missed by inches (1970 approximately) by a bomb by the
Wall. The shrapnel killed nine people. Pieces of them blew by me. I had
been out of Nam for about 1 year, a year of killing and escaping, Tet
Offensive 1968, and the Kongs were over-running our positions, filling our
gopher holes with blood and terror. The concussion in Jerusalem by the
Wall of Herod stunned me for three or four days. Fortunately, I had turned
the corner, because as usual God was with me. One-half second later, and
I'd be dead. As it was people and pieces of those walking and laughing
just a few feet behind me flew past in the air. One was a little girl. She
was smiling as she went past, her arms flailing good-bye in her exit
scene, a reddening death dance.

I cried, because it missed me, and remembered my dead buddies, and the
little girl's face smiling innocently in the red rush of goop. I had been
terribly injured in Nam and thought this type of thing was over for me,
wondered why I lived and so many others I knew died in the tet offensive.
Always felt guilty I lived. Still do. Can't shake it. I felt, staring half
unconscious at the Wailing Wall of Herod's Temple and that little girl's
smiling face and waving good-bye hands that I would never get out of
combat, that the Jews, Christ, I were born to suffer, suffer, suffer,
forever, never dying, always coming back up for more of the bullshit. Like
it was haunting me. Blood smells were my bag which I hauled like Sysiphus
up the hill only to see it coming back upon me again and again. I
staggered around for awhile, still stunned. People were screaming. No one
can be more hysterical than someone from the Mediterrean Basin.
Eventually, I fell asleep up on the Mount where the Dome of the Rock
watches in mute, silent, blue-golden hostility at the raging conflict,
like the dismantled eye of God poised forever on us mortals. 

As the blood and bones flew by me in that instant, I felt the horror of
the history of this area, all mankind, killing, maiming, sticking each
other with pikes, tearing with shrapnel, all the flags, past glories,
whimpers, screams, never ending. And the little girl, always the little
girl. There is a solid recurrence in history, throughout all ages, again
and again, much akin to the repetitions in the OT and NT, Ovid, Homer,
Virgil, the weaving and unweaving of Penelope's rug. Pain. Killing. Peace.
War. We shuttle through the loom, attached to the wooden thong like little
slaves and are folded in time through the strands, all tossed together,
pushed cleanly into straight stitches, and cast to the floor to be tromped
upon.

More later.

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec 17 23:23:21 PST 1995
Article: 16513 of alt.revisionism
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:Give me eight more months and that will be a retard in Graduate School. Thank 
:you very much...
:
:eB

PH.D. Piled Higher & Deeper.

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec 17 23:23:22 PST 1995
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In article <4as9l7$p4i@bigblue.oit.unc.edu>, davwhitt@med.unc.edu (David
Whitt) wrote:

:In article ,
:Frank Weltner  wrote:
:>> >"Layovers" is right. He was gay as a snake, and he slept with 1,000 people
:>> >per year. The perfect layover. I fuck you and you die, slob.
:>> > 
:>> Snakes are gay?
:>> 
:>> -DW
:>
:>I've got a kingsnake here that says, "Bend Over!" Don't push it.
:
:
:What does this mean?  Are you saying you are hung and want to fuck me? 
:
:
:
:-DW

You should wish I would.

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec 17 23:37:08 PST 1995
Article: 8318 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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Subject: Re: Hey, Civilized Man...
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In article <30CDEA3D.7AFC@scott.net>, evil Beavis  wrote:

:Les Griswold wrote:
:> 
:> Fresh816 (fresh816@aol.com) writes:
:> > Can you, with even the slightest bit of veracity, trace the "fault" of
:> > these diseases to the African people.  Way I see it, it's white people who
:> > brought AIDS out of Africa.  If you're interested in the most touted
:> > theory of how AIDS spread into the West, I'll post it, but I don't want to
:> > strain your brain unless your up for it.
:> 
:> Sure, jewboy.  Is that the one where the FAGGOT airline attendant brought
:> it over, presumably after packing the fudge with a bunch of African
:> faggots?  (whoops, I forgot -- he's "bisexual", as if there's a difference)
:> 
:> Les
:
:
:No Les, you've got it wrong again. White European and North American sex 
:tourism to places like Gambia in Africa and Thailand in Asia has contributed 
:a lot to the spread of AIDS. What do you think all these people going there 
:are going for? To see and experience the culture?? No, they go to have sex 
:with little boys and girls - freakin' perverts...!
:
:eB

Asswipe.

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec 17 23:37:09 PST 1995
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:: When hemorraghic blood begins to ooe from your exploding eyes and bubbling
:: ears and puke red blood is vomited from your dissolving tongue and gums,
:
:I need to die from Ebola in order for the statement by master
:Griswold to become clear? Would it be any more helpful if I died of
:a disease that originated in Europe, pneumonic plague, say?
:
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:She leans across the hilltop: see, the light!
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Pneumonic plague. Do you mean bubonic plague, asswipe? Nigger brains are small.

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec 17 23:37:10 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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Subject: Re: 3rd World "qualifications"
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In article <4ape8d$7tv@news1.ucsd.edu>, fledgist@weber.ucsd.edu (Fragano
Ledgister) wrote:

:Frank Weltner (potato@mo.net) wrote:
:: > Furthermore, India has some of the best surgeons in the world - eye
:: > surgery is not done with rusty blades.
:
:: They've been especially good at transmitting AIDS through their needles
:: which they clean by sticking them in the next patient's arm. But, hell,
:: they're only Indians.
:
:
:May we have some documentation? BTW, I seem to recall reading that
:the German Red Cross infected people with HIV a few years ago. Is my
:recollection faulty? If not, should we say 'but, hell, they're only
:Germans'?
:
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Do I give a shit about the Germans, asswipe? No. I don't. Fuck the Germans.

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec 17 23:46:50 PST 1995
Article: 11152 of alt.politics.white-power
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In article <30CDEA3D.7AFC@scott.net>, evil Beavis  wrote:

:Les Griswold wrote:
:> 
:> Fresh816 (fresh816@aol.com) writes:
:> > Can you, with even the slightest bit of veracity, trace the "fault" of
:> > these diseases to the African people.  Way I see it, it's white people who
:> > brought AIDS out of Africa.  If you're interested in the most touted
:> > theory of how AIDS spread into the West, I'll post it, but I don't want to
:> > strain your brain unless your up for it.
:> 
:> Sure, jewboy.  Is that the one where the FAGGOT airline attendant brought
:> it over, presumably after packing the fudge with a bunch of African
:> faggots?  (whoops, I forgot -- he's "bisexual", as if there's a difference)
:> 
:> Les
:
:
:No Les, you've got it wrong again. White European and North American sex 
:tourism to places like Gambia in Africa and Thailand in Asia has contributed 
:a lot to the spread of AIDS. What do you think all these people going there 
:are going for? To see and experience the culture?? No, they go to have sex 
:with little boys and girls - freakin' perverts...!
:
:eB

Asswipe.

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec 17 23:46:51 PST 1995
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:: When hemorraghic blood begins to ooe from your exploding eyes and bubbling
:: ears and puke red blood is vomited from your dissolving tongue and gums,
:
:I need to die from Ebola in order for the statement by master
:Griswold to become clear? Would it be any more helpful if I died of
:a disease that originated in Europe, pneumonic plague, say?
:
:--
:Dawn over the dark sea brings on the sun;                      
:She leans across the hilltop: see, the light!
:--------------------------------------------------------------------
:fledgist@weber.ucsd.edu 

Pneumonic plague. Do you mean bubonic plague, asswipe? Nigger brains are small.

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec 17 23:46:52 PST 1995
Article: 11154 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article <4ape8d$7tv@news1.ucsd.edu>, fledgist@weber.ucsd.edu (Fragano
Ledgister) wrote:

:Frank Weltner (potato@mo.net) wrote:
:: > Furthermore, India has some of the best surgeons in the world - eye
:: > surgery is not done with rusty blades.
:
:: They've been especially good at transmitting AIDS through their needles
:: which they clean by sticking them in the next patient's arm. But, hell,
:: they're only Indians.
:
:
:May we have some documentation? BTW, I seem to recall reading that
:the German Red Cross infected people with HIV a few years ago. Is my
:recollection faulty? If not, should we say 'but, hell, they're only
:Germans'?
:
:--
:Dawn over the dark sea brings on the sun;                      
:She leans across the hilltop: see, the light!
:--------------------------------------------------------------------
:fledgist@weber.ucsd.edu  

Do I give a shit about the Germans, asswipe? No. I don't. Fuck the Germans.

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec 17 23:46:52 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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Subject: Re: Have a great Christmas you freaks!
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In article <30CDEC6E.398D@scott.net>, evil Beavis  wrote:

:Well, I am going away for the holidays so I won't be able to bug you guys for 
:two whole weeks. Have fun, have a white christmas and sit around with your 
:children and dream of that "Greater White Amerikkka" that you supposedly will 
:create one of these days. You might as well dream, the world demographics are 
:changing rapidly and before you know it, losers like you will be caught 
:between a rock and a hard place. I myself will hopefully be able to adapt and 
:get along. For you I think there is no hope. Then again, if you find Atlantis 
:maybe you can go and colonize it and make it a whites only place. I'll come 
:visit...!
:
:eB

Hey! You aren't going to spend your Christmas in the ghetto with the
losers? What's the matter? Don't you like them? Just want to stick up for
them, but NEVER EVER live close to them for fear of your life from these
criminals? You are a typical lilly livered liberal. Asswipe.

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From potato@mo.net Sun Dec 17 23:46:53 PST 1995
Article: 11168 of alt.politics.white-power
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Subject: Re: Two Questions for Jap Lovers
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:>>>if the japs are so great, then why do they wear western suits and ties
:>>>and western clothes and why ain't we wearing jap clothes?

Because our gonads are not slanted.

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From potato@mo.net Tue Dec 19 15:13:44 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article ,
schwartz@infinet.com (Sara aka Perrrfect) wrote:

:In article , potato@mo.net
:(Frank Weltner) wrote:
:
:> The first human known in North America to
:> > have had AIDS was an airline steward who transmitted it to all the
:> > cities at which he had layovers.
:> > 
:> "Layovers" is right. He was gay as a snake, and he slept with 1,000 people
:> per year. The perfect layover. I fuck you and you die, slob.
:> 
:He was also a WHITE GUY, Frank.  A WHITE GUY was responsible for bringing
:AIDS to North America.
: 
:Sara
:
He fucked a green monkey. He deserved to die. (It was his eyes.)

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From potato@mo.net Tue Dec 19 15:13:45 PST 1995
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I confess I was wrong. Alaric and not Attila sacked Rome. However, they
were both very bad guys. In fact, the Romans knew them as
multi-culturalists.

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From potato@mo.net Tue Dec 19 15:13:46 PST 1995
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:I have never read a history book once which said anything about the Pope 
:having anything whatsoever to do with Attila the Hun.  
:
:-DW

According to St. Benecdotus, the Pope and Attila had a one-time close
relationship. It is rumored in history that the Pope talked Attila into
giving him a blow job. When it became the Pope's turn to return the favor,
however, the Holy Father withdrew into the Christian catacombs and
disappeared. Attila was afraid of the dark caverns and did not follow him.
In retribution for this Papal insult and his lack of testicular etiquette
which the Pope had displayed via his hasty withdrawal, Attila wasted the
Province of Tuscany. Life is a bitch, no?

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From potato@mo.net Tue Dec 19 15:13:46 PST 1995
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In article <4as89f$cl2@newsource.ihug.co.nz>, p_stone@alchemy.co.nz wrote:

:In article <49tsj7$19hs@bigblue.oit.unc.edu>, davwhitt@med.unc.edu (David
Whitt) says:
:>
:The Pope persuaded Attilla the Hun not to attack Rome.  Therefore Attilla
:never sacked Rome.  He probably could have sacked Rome, but didn't.
:
:Ourobouros.

However, according to Tacitus, Attila the Hun sacked Joe Namath three or
four times at the Meadowlands before retiring to Naples with 7,000
concubines for the summer.

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From potato@mo.net Tue Dec 19 15:13:47 PST 1995
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:The reason this all came up was because Frank postulated that sailors on 
:slave ships perished at a rate equal to that of slaves.  My question was, 
:would anyone volunteer for such a position?  Even assuming now that all 
:of the men who worked on slave ships were impressed (something I doubt 
:highly because that's an absurd sitaution, and in any case I don't think 
:stats are avaliable on this sort of thing) do you believe that the 
:British government was willing to send random citizens off to their 
:deaths for the sake of the slave trade?  Can anyone think of a parallel 
:that didn't involve convicted criminals or natioanl emergencies (i.e. 
:during the Napoleonic Wars?)
:
:Mark

I don't think you understand that the loss of life while crossing the
Atlantic was quite high. English, Irish, French, Germans, all had a very
high death rate. If you take people from the farm, people who haven't been
around other folks for generations, and pack them into the hold of a ship,
they will catch three or four diseases at once. This is about 50% fatal.
It's what happened to the native American population, too; their numbers
went from 30 million to 500,000 on both hemispheres in just 15 years due
only to losses from European diseases. When you take measles, diptheria,
whooping cough, and the common cold together along with rough Atlantic
seas and mal de mer, and you are in great danger. This is also the reason
for the deaths of the slavers. Not only were many of them new recruits
>from  the farm without prior disease fighting strengths, but they had to
also confront African diseases.

I feel a sniffle. Got any Vick's Vaporub?

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From potato@mo.net Tue Dec 19 22:39:26 PST 1995
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:The reason it is being done is because Ernst Zundel, currently residing in 
:Canada, is one of the leading Holocaust deniers in the world, his publishing 
:company pumping out denier dreck in endless rolls.  Everyone is dumping on 
:the man becuase on the one hand he tries to appear sensible and objective 
:and on the other claims to have infiltrated a Nazi UFO base at the South 
:Pole.
:
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:Keith Morrison
:t08o@unb.ca


Why do you care? Hitler killed 11 million including 6 million Jews. 

Stalin killed 100 million people, kulaks, peasants, intellectuals. 

Mao Tse Tung killed millions. He buried them alive with their hands
sticking out of the soil in front of the towns to frighten everyone.

If Zundel denies it, who cares? They are still fucking dead. They aren't
coming back, are they? Do you really think that you can get everyone in
this world to agree on anything? Think again. Zundel was bound to happen.
Period. 

I've had my say, now I'll just go away.

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From potato@mo.net Tue Dec 19 22:39:27 PST 1995
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:   The reason this man is being riduculed for his claims of secret nazi ufo
:weapons is because this man is Canada's leading holocaust denier.  We are
:trying to demonstrate the fact that this man is quite ridiculous and should
:not be taken seriously.  It is foolish to follow a fool.
:
:Sean Ashley

Actually, you are wrong. The Nazi base is still there. You can see it on
any Antarctic tour. However, the Jews are missing, and we can't find them.

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From potato@mo.net Tue Dec 19 22:39:28 PST 1995
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Asswipe.

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From potato@mo.net Tue Dec 19 22:39:28 PST 1995
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:> Nobody alive toady is a pure aryan, except perhaps for the
:> Atlanteans visiting with Zundel in the UFO base on the far side 
:> of the moon.

You forgot me.

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From potato@mo.net Tue Dec 19 22:39:29 PST 1995
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: I'm sure your intentions are unimpeachable
.
And you are absolutely correct!!!

Asswipe.

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From potato@mo.net Wed Dec 20 00:23:09 PST 1995
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:The reason it is being done is because Ernst Zundel, currently residing in 
:Canada, is one of the leading Holocaust deniers in the world, his publishing 
:company pumping out denier dreck in endless rolls.  Everyone is dumping on 
:the man becuase on the one hand he tries to appear sensible and objective 
:and on the other claims to have infiltrated a Nazi UFO base at the South 
:Pole.
:
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:Keith Morrison
:t08o@unb.ca


Why do you care? Hitler killed 11 million including 6 million Jews. 

Stalin killed 100 million people, kulaks, peasants, intellectuals. 

Mao Tse Tung killed millions. He buried them alive with their hands
sticking out of the soil in front of the towns to frighten everyone.

If Zundel denies it, who cares? They are still fucking dead. They aren't
coming back, are they? Do you really think that you can get everyone in
this world to agree on anything? Think again. Zundel was bound to happen.
Period. 

I've had my say, now I'll just go away.

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From potato@mo.net Wed Dec 20 00:23:09 PST 1995
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:   The reason this man is being riduculed for his claims of secret nazi ufo
:weapons is because this man is Canada's leading holocaust denier.  We are
:trying to demonstrate the fact that this man is quite ridiculous and should
:not be taken seriously.  It is foolish to follow a fool.
:
:Sean Ashley

Actually, you are wrong. The Nazi base is still there. You can see it on
any Antarctic tour. However, the Jews are missing, and we can't find them.

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Asswipe.

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From potato@mo.net Wed Dec 20 00:23:11 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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:> Nobody alive toady is a pure aryan, except perhaps for the
:> Atlanteans visiting with Zundel in the UFO base on the far side 
:> of the moon.

You forgot me.

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From potato@mo.net Wed Dec 20 00:23:12 PST 1995
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: I'm sure your intentions are unimpeachable
.
And you are absolutely correct!!!

Asswipe.

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From potato@mo.net Wed Dec 20 09:25:56 PST 1995
Article: 16746 of alt.revisionism
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In article ,
schwartz@infinet.com (Sara aka Perrrfect) wrote:

:In article , potato@mo.net
:(Frank Weltner) wrote:
:
:> The first human known in North America to
:> > have had AIDS was an airline steward who transmitted it to all the
:> > cities at which he had layovers.
:> > 
:> "Layovers" is right. He was gay as a snake, and he slept with 1,000 people
:> per year. The perfect layover. I fuck you and you die, slob.
:> 
:He was also a WHITE GUY, Frank.  A WHITE GUY was responsible for bringing
:AIDS to North America.
: 
:Sara
:
He fucked a green monkey. He deserved to die. (It was his eyes.)

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From potato@mo.net Wed Dec 20 09:25:57 PST 1995
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I confess I was wrong. Alaric and not Attila sacked Rome. However, they
were both very bad guys. In fact, the Romans knew them as
multi-culturalists.

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From potato@mo.net Wed Dec 20 09:25:58 PST 1995
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:I have never read a history book once which said anything about the Pope 
:having anything whatsoever to do with Attila the Hun.  
:
:-DW

According to St. Benecdotus, the Pope and Attila had a one-time close
relationship. It is rumored in history that the Pope talked Attila into
giving him a blow job. When it became the Pope's turn to return the favor,
however, the Holy Father withdrew into the Christian catacombs and
disappeared. Attila was afraid of the dark caverns and did not follow him.
In retribution for this Papal insult and his lack of testicular etiquette
which the Pope had displayed via his hasty withdrawal, Attila wasted the
Province of Tuscany. Life is a bitch, no?

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From potato@mo.net Wed Dec 20 09:25:59 PST 1995
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In article <4as89f$cl2@newsource.ihug.co.nz>, p_stone@alchemy.co.nz wrote:

:In article <49tsj7$19hs@bigblue.oit.unc.edu>, davwhitt@med.unc.edu (David
Whitt) says:
:>
:The Pope persuaded Attilla the Hun not to attack Rome.  Therefore Attilla
:never sacked Rome.  He probably could have sacked Rome, but didn't.
:
:Ourobouros.

However, according to Tacitus, Attila the Hun sacked Joe Namath three or
four times at the Meadowlands before retiring to Naples with 7,000
concubines for the summer.

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From potato@mo.net Wed Dec 20 09:26:00 PST 1995
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:The reason this all came up was because Frank postulated that sailors on 
:slave ships perished at a rate equal to that of slaves.  My question was, 
:would anyone volunteer for such a position?  Even assuming now that all 
:of the men who worked on slave ships were impressed (something I doubt 
:highly because that's an absurd sitaution, and in any case I don't think 
:stats are avaliable on this sort of thing) do you believe that the 
:British government was willing to send random citizens off to their 
:deaths for the sake of the slave trade?  Can anyone think of a parallel 
:that didn't involve convicted criminals or natioanl emergencies (i.e. 
:during the Napoleonic Wars?)
:
:Mark

I don't think you understand that the loss of life while crossing the
Atlantic was quite high. English, Irish, French, Germans, all had a very
high death rate. If you take people from the farm, people who haven't been
around other folks for generations, and pack them into the hold of a ship,
they will catch three or four diseases at once. This is about 50% fatal.
It's what happened to the native American population, too; their numbers
went from 30 million to 500,000 on both hemispheres in just 15 years due
only to losses from European diseases. When you take measles, diptheria,
whooping cough, and the common cold together along with rough Atlantic
seas and mal de mer, and you are in great danger. This is also the reason
for the deaths of the slavers. Not only were many of them new recruits
>from  the farm without prior disease fighting strengths, but they had to
also confront African diseases.

I feel a sniffle. Got any Vick's Vaporub?

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From potato@mo.net Wed Dec 20 09:26:01 PST 1995
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In article <4aq6mv$fq1@decaxp.harvard.edu>, staloff@course1.harvard.edu
(Mark Staloff) wrote:

:Frank Weltner (potato@mo.net) wrote:
:
:: Was Jesus a Jew? Sure. Were Jews Jews or Aryans? There's the rub. Most
:: Jews are evidently of Mongol and Russian/Slovic Heritage, having taken the
:: religion as their own about 1,000 years ago in an area just north of
:: Turkey which is now largely the freed moslem states of the old Soviet
:: Union. They lived in Georgia and its surrounding areas and migrated into
:: Spain, got pushed out there, and settled for 500 years in Germany, the
:: only country that would take them.
:
:The Khazar theory has been thoroughly discredited.  Yes, there was a 
:tribe in that area that converted to Judaism, and later collapsed.

This is not really true. Visit the Khazar WWW Site. 

http://acad.bryant.edu/~kbrook/khazaria.html

I think you will learn something.

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From potato@mo.net Wed Dec 20 09:26:01 PST 1995
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Heimie-wipe.

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From potato@mo.net Wed Dec 20 09:26:02 PST 1995
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Eat my stool, asswipe.

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From potato@mo.net Wed Dec 20 09:26:03 PST 1995
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The Jew's God is not called Jahve, you idiot. It is called The Shopping Mall.

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From potato@mo.net Wed Dec 20 09:26:04 PST 1995
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> It is sometimes funny when you hear some aquaintances at 
> a bar bitchin about "niggers on welfare, niggers stealing" etc. and then my 
> girlfriend comes along! I guess they feel pretty stupid... Oh well, I am used 
> to it. It just pisses me off....

QUESTION: Doesn't it also piss you off that niggers are on welfare and
niggers are stealing?

QUESTION: Don't you find it inconsistent of the liberals who live in
Brentwood who were so careful always to overlook black crime, but now want
OJ Simpson to leave their neighborhood because he committed one? 

QUESTION: And, if they like niggers so much, and if they discount the
crimes that we all know that niggers commit, then why shouldn't they WANT
to live next door to a murderer like OJ Simpson, especially since he is a
nigger? 

QUESTION: This is their moment to shine in their liberality!!!! To show us
the WAY!!!! To go where no liberal has gone before!!!!

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From potato@mo.net Wed Dec 20 09:26:05 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article <818989830snz@abaron.demon.co.uk>, A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk wrote:

:In article <30CFCCA6.5B46@scott.net> stefan@scott.net "evil Beavis" writes:
:
:>If these laws weren't in 
:> place, minorities would have it even harder no matter how educated they
were. 
:
How true. In fact, they were find it far harder to kill people in the
nicer places in town. Then, where would they be?

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From potato@mo.net Wed Dec 20 09:26:06 PST 1995
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In article <818989830snz@abaron.demon.co.uk>, A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk wrote:

:In article <30CFCCA6.5B46@scott.net> stefan@scott.net "evil Beavis" writes:
:
:>If these laws weren't in 
:> place, minorities would have it even harder no matter how educated they
were. 
:
Right. If these laws weren't in place, they would find it very difficult
to kill people in the better parts of town. Then, where would we be?

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From potato@mo.net Wed Dec 20 09:26:07 PST 1995
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article <4at4j1$1h6@tst.hk.super.net>, pristine@news.hk.super.net (Mr
Richard Ethan Latker) wrote:

:Frank "Scatologist" Weltner (potato@mo.net) wrote:
:: Devadatta, you and I both know that the traditional way of wiping ones ass
:: in India is with your bare hands. Prime Minister Desai told the entire
:: world that he drank his own piss. Granted, you have nice architecture, so
:: must be at least partly Aryan and European. I give you that. However, it
:: would seem that a great people like Punjabi's would invent toilet paper or
:: toilet leaves instead of wiping with bare hands and drinking their urine.
:: Have some standards, here. Please.
:
:The Indian's "wipe their ass" with water, not their bare hands. (The
:Americans just smear the shit around with a piece of paper. Gross.) Before
:toilet paper was around (c.1870), Americans just used an old rag
:(reusable) or a swath of leather. Europeans, like Indians, took to 
:using water a couple of centuries ago, and rich ones had bidees 
:installed. Now they smear things around like Americans.
:
:Indian's don't drink their piss, either, though there is the occassional 
:eccentric (Hitler was into bull-testicle injections, for that matter).
:By the way, Morarjee Desai just died. He was 99.

Wrong, asswipe. Whites don't shit.

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From potato@mo.net Wed Dec 20 09:26:08 PST 1995
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In article <1995Dec16.011824@cctr.umkc.edu>, fkalich@cctr.umkc.edu wrote:

:In article , potato@mo.net
(Frank Weltner) writes:
:> In article <4an3g0$k7n@panix.com>, mukut@panix.com (Devadatta
Mukutmoni) wrote:
:>> Where did you read that whites built the Indian Civilization? Is there
:>> a skinhead/aryan supremacist handbook that you could refer me to?
:>> The people of the Indus Valley civilization were certainly not very
:>> European looking, if the artifacts, seals and other evidences are 
:>> to be believed. But, then they could have been planted by the liberals/jews
:>> to discredit the blond blue-eyed Aryans.  :-)
:> 
:>> Devadatta Mukutmoni
:>> 
:> Devadatta, you and I both know that the traditional way of wiping ones ass
:> in India is with your bare hands. Prime Minister Desai told the entire
:> world that he drank his own piss. Granted, you have nice architecture, so
:> must be at least partly Aryan and European. I give you that. However, it
:> would seem that a great people like Punjabi's would invent toilet paper or
:> toilet leaves instead of wiping with bare hands and drinking their urine.
:> Have some standards, here. Please.
:> 
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:frank, you give new definition to the term "ulgy american".  Perhaps you think
:you are funny.  I am embarassed that there are americans like you.  I wonder
:who people like you are, since i can't ever remember ever meeting anyone in
:person so lacking in class.  You think you can just say anything to people? 
:What is wrong with you?
:
:in answer to the question, i believe the reference is to the migration of
:tribes with Indo-european linguistic stock, but of uncertain racial orgin, to
:the subcontinent about the middle of the 3d millennium bc.  I seriously doubt
:that if you brought one of those people into the 20th century, that he/she
:would be recognizable as any ethnic/racial 20th century people.

Wrong. They went there, because it was the only continent where they could
legally wipe their ass with bare hands. Everyone else on the other
continents had standards. Asswipe.

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From potato@mo.net Wed Dec 20 09:26:09 PST 1995
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>Humans are the only animals on earth to have 'races'.



I agree totally about races--e.g., Niggers, Paki's, and Hispanics. 

In terms of races, these are definitely the Triple Crown.

Asswipe.

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:[Frank's chart, posted for the 1000th time, deleted]
:
:I see you are unable to respond to the simplest arguments.  No big 
:suprise.  Sad Frank, real sad.  
:
:Timothy

Oh, oh. Did you delete my post by accident? Not to worry. Here it is!!!!!!
Pretty damned neat, huh? IQ is the simplest argument there is. And science
always picks the simplest theory. Remember that. Oh, yes. I almost
forgot...

Asswipe.


        ASCII Bell Curve Showing Distribution of White & Black IQ
                       Page 279 of The Bell Curve
                 Ethnic Differences in Cognitive Ability


THE BELL CURVE DISTRIBUTION OF BLACK AND WHITE IQ LEVELS BASED ON THE
NATIONAL LONGITUDINAL SURVEY OF YOUTH AND THE ARMED FORCES TESTING SURVEY
(NLSY & AFTS) MEASURING IQ FOR MILLIONS OF PERSONS TESTED YEAR AFTER YEAR

    BLACKS FALL ON LEFT (LOW IQ)      WHITES ON RIGHT (HIGH IQ)


                                  w
                                white
                               whites.
                              whites wh
                             whites whit
                            whites whites 
                            whites whites. 
                           whites whites wh
BLACK MEAN AVERAGE         whites whites wh     WHITE MEAN
83 IQ IS BORDERLINE       whites whites whit    AVERAGE IQ
RETARDED                 whites whites whites   100-103
                       whites whites whites whi
                   blawhites whites whites whites 
                blacks blacks whites whites whites 
blacks blacks blacks blacks black blacks whites whites 
blacks blacks blacks blacks blacks blacks blacks whites 
__________________________________________________________
IQ   50   60   70   80   90  100  110  120 130 140  150 
                      /\       /\
     BLACK MEAN IQ IS 83        WHITE MEAN IQ IS 100-103

1/2 OF BLACKS HAVE 83 IQ OR LESS       1/2 OF WHITES HAVE 100-103 IQ OR LESS
70% OF BLACKS HAVE 100-103 IQ OR LESS  30% OF WHITES HAVE 83 IQ OR LESS
--------------------------------       -------------------------------------
1/2 OF BLACKS HAVE 83 IQ OR MORE       1/2 OF WHITES HAVE 100-103 IQ OR MORE
30% OF BLACKS HAVE 100-103 IQ OR MORE  70% OF WHITES HAVE 83 IQ OR MORE

EACH 10% OF BLACKS =  4 MILLION PERSONS AND 1 MILLION ADULT BLACKS
EACH 10% OF WHITES = 20 MILLION PERSONS AND 9 MILLION ADULT WHITES
(The adult group are persons above 18 years of age)

Smarties
 3 million adult blacks are above 100 IQ
63 million adult whites are above 100 IQ

Dummies
 7 million adult blacks are below 100 IQ
63 million adult whites are below 100 IQ

It takes 95 IQ to pass high school with a D, 100 IQ to pass high school
with a C, and 115 IQ to pass college with a D, 123 with a C, 136 with a B,
144 with an A. Retardation begins at 92 IQ. 60% of blacks and 30% of
whites are BELOW 92 IQ. 50% of blacks and 20% of whites are below 83 IQ
(the black average mean IQ level).

The number of blacks with above average IQ of 100+ by comparisonto whites 
is 
1 black to each 21 white with an IQ above 100.
This means only 1 black out of every 21 above average citizens is
available for executive positions, actually about 1/3rd that amount since
the number of blacks above 130 IQ is less than 10% or about 330,000
persons. Those with degrees and an IQ above 130 are even fewer, since many
do not attend college.
This shows how easily affirmative action can place unqualified people into
positions of authority.

Prepared by Frank Weltner 1995

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From potato@mo.net Wed Dec 20 09:26:10 PST 1995
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:VERBAL SCALE: 
:Information:  a test of general knowledge {test of ability to learn}  
:Comprehension: test of social understanding and adaptation 
:Arithmetic:  simple mental arithmetic (timed) 
:Similarities: "How are x and y alike?"  {test of abstract verbal ability} 
:Digit Span:  "Repeat these numbers after me:" {test of immediate memory} 
:Vocabulary: list of words to define {test of ability to learn language} 
: 
: 
:PERFORMANCE: 
:Block Design:  two dimensional pattern construction (timed) 
:Object Assembly: simple jig saws (timed)  
:Picture Completion: "What is missing in this picture?" (time limit)  
:Picture Arrangement:  cartoon frames to put in logical order (timed) 
:Digit Symbol: copy the right symbols underneath the numbers (timed) 
: 
: 
:You can see that not only are IQ tests culturally loaded but time plays a
:big part in the score you get.  People who say that IQ tests have no
:cultural component do not really know what they are talking about.  Another

I don't understand this. You say these tests are culturally loaded.
However, I look at the verbal and performance areas, and I don't see one
fucking thing here that is cultural. Let's look at them:

:VERBAL SCALE: 
:Information:  a test of general knowledge {test of ability to learn}  
:Comprehension: test of social understanding and adaptation 
:Arithmetic:  simple mental arithmetic (timed) 
:Similarities: "How are x and y alike?"  {test of abstract verbal ability} 
:Digit Span:  "Repeat these numbers after me:" {test of immediate memory} 
:Vocabulary: list of words to define {test of ability to learn language} 

This is culturally loaded? Christ, all you have to do is look, point, and
talk. That's culturally loaded? Please.

Next, Performance testing. Let's see:

:PERFORMANCE: 
:Block Design:  two dimensional pattern construction (timed) 
:Object Assembly: simple jig saws (timed)  
:Picture Completion: "What is missing in this picture?" (time limit)  
:Picture Arrangement:  cartoon frames to put in logical order (timed) 
:Digit Symbol: copy the right symbols underneath the numbers (timed) 

This is culturally loaded? Pattern construction (drawing?), simple jig
saws, what's missing in the picture (Hey, Mom, where's my grits. They
aren't on this plate, bitch.), logical order of cartoons (rock falling out
of window and crashing on sidewalk below in three frames. Gee, really
tough), and placing a "2" under two walnuts! Wow! Culture clashes galore!

Bullshit. Bullshit. Bullshit.

Blacks are just fucking stupid. Period. These tests are easy, unless you
are a dummy. Then only fucking, shooting up dope, and killing people is
easy.

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Let's face it. Hitler got a little twiggy mentally after awhile. Someone
should have taken him out in 1942.

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:If I ever saw anyone fighting for a lost cause, it's you morons. Your views 
:will never become broadly accepted in the U.S. Crackpots like Randy Weaver 
:and freaks like the ones in Waco might find your jibberish appealing, but it 
:will never prevail. Have fun dreaming while it lasts...
:
:eB

This doesn't make any sense, eB. Not that your posts ever do, really. I
have noticed that they are usually more like asswipes of blather, mostly.

Let me explain. 

The people of Waco are dead, asswipe. Killed by the fascist FBI pigstye.
Including the multi-culturalists in the Mt. Carmel Compound. About
one-third of the Davidians were black or asian.

Randy Weaver's son and wife were murdered by the FBI goons, asswipe. The
FBI admitted they murdered them in contravention of US law, yet none of
them are in jail, are they? They admitted their errors, but only after
they were investigated and the militia poked their ugly faces into their
business. The FBI paid him and his children $3.1 million in a civil suit
over it. That was my tax money. Too bad it didn't get deducted from FBI
revenue as a punishment.

In both court cases, the juries pointed at the FBI and found the victims
of FBI fire were innocent, asswipe.

Will the dead babies of Waco listen to me, asswipe? No.

Will Randy Weaver's dead wife and son and dog listen to me, asswipe? No.

Will the urban nigger who puts a switchblade in your liver listen to you?
Yes. As yo fall to the ground, quivering and dying in multi-cultural
agony, praying God to forgive the noble savages.

Because you are an ignorant asswipe, eB.

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From potato@mo.net Wed Dec 20 09:26:13 PST 1995
Article: 16860 of alt.revisionism
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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Subject: Re: Europeans Defeat Enemies. Invaded by Aliens More than Africans Were.
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In article <4av8cf$t7h@bigblue.oit.unc.edu>, davwhitt@med.unc.edu (David
Whitt) wrote:

:In article ,
:Chris Camfield  wrote:
:>>Do you really think Attilla the Hun cared what the Pope thought?  He was a
:>>pagan barbarian nomad from Asia.  He didn't know or care about
:>>Christianity.  I don't even think the Popes were around yet, we're talking
:>>about the Roman Empire, not the Holy Roman Empire.  
:>
:>Shows how much you know about the history of Rome and Christianity.  Never
:>heard of an emperor named Constantine?
:
:Look you ignorant math undergrad, Constantine was the Emperor of Rome, not
:the Pope.  He was the first Christian emperor but Popes are chosen by and
:from Bishops, not emperors.  
:
:
:>> Attilla was defeated
:>>by a combined Roman-Visigothic army at Chalon in 451AD.  
:>
:>The only battle he lost, but it wasn't the end of him.
:
:No, an unstoppable nosebleed (poisoning?) did him in.  The battle of Chalon
:did stop his army and kept if from being a major menace to Europe.
:
:-DW

Italy IS in Europe.

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From potato@mo.net Wed Dec 20 09:26:14 PST 1995
Article: 16861 of alt.revisionism
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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In article ,
jeannek@darkwing.uoregon.edu (Jeanne Kowalewski) wrote:

:In article <30D13E97.4681@aimnet.com>, George Graves 
:wrote:
:
:* Stewart King wrote:
:* > 
:* > George Graves (gmgraves@aimnet.com) wrote:
:* > : Stewart King wrote:
:* > > : > George Graves (gmgraves@aimnet.com) wrote:
:
:[whack]
:
:* > : > And how do you expect this "culling" to occur, anyway?  Having people
:* > : > starving to death isn't exactly going to bring crime down.
:* > 
:* > : Nature culls unsuccessful lifeforms if allowed to do so by meddling
:* > : humans (mostly liberals).
:* 
:* > And how do you expect this "culling" to occur, anyway?  Having people
:* > : > starving to death isn't exactly going to bring crime down. 
:* 
:* I answered that. Unsuccessful species, if left to nature, DIE OUT. 
:* 
:* 
:* George Graves
:
:What are you advocating, George? We could, theoretically, turn back the
:clock and shun all modern technology, including advances in medicine and
:the ability to irrigate land, grow and transport food. We could then see
:which population groups die out first. My guess is that only the 'savages'
:would survive, because they haven't forgotten how to live with nature.
:
:Rev. Jeanne K.
:Ordained Minister, Universal Life Church
:
:"There are many humorous things in the world: among them the white man's
notion 
:that he is less savage than the other savages."
:‹ Mark Twain

I wouldn't die out. I've wiped my b--t with leaves and cobs on many an
occasion, and I'm not too proud to do it again. I also have 82nd airborne
training in survival. I can live years on the land.

The blacks, however, would end up killing each other. Without law
enforcement authorities, they would be every black for himself, would be
firing up and down the streets, making a huge Somalia out of whatever
territories they controlled. Blacks do not have the social skills or
governmental skills or communications and organization to allow the middle
classes in there midst to govern. Their first line of duty would be to
kill their middle classes just as the communists did, because the middle
classes are considered Oreos and bootlickers and sell outs to the street
black in the ghetto. In times of crisis, the worst of society  takes over,
and with the already minimal intelligence potentials of blacks, these
people wouldn't have a chance. The black intelligensia would be hunted
down and destroyed right away. This would leave nothing left to bring
about a positive outcome for the rest. It would be street life, period.
Most would die.

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From potato@mo.net Wed Dec 20 09:26:15 PST 1995
Article: 16865 of alt.revisionism
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From: potato@mo.net (Frank Weltner)
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Subject: Re: Will WP people be able to evolve ever?(was: Black Africans...)
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In article <30D0F660.506E@scott.net>, evil Beavis  wrote:

:Frank Weltner wrote:
:> 
:> 1. Blacks have been on the earth for 3 million years.
:> 
:> 2. Blacks have always been rather dull and dumb all that time.
:> 
:> 3. Blacks in recent years learned to hate whites and to want to destroy them.
:> 
:> 4. Given ten years, blacks will suddenly change, evolve, and be like whites.
:> 
:> 5. The earth will provide computers from beach sand.
:> 
:> 6. No one will ever have to work.
:
:
:Well, maybe you all should start worrying whether dysfunctional white 
:"supremacists" will ever be able to evolve into decent and productive human 
:beings. Seems to me that you are a lot more destructive than Black Africans, 
:especially considering your insignificant numbers.
:
:eB

Maybe we should cut off your food stamps, Medicaid, welfare, AFDC, Section
8, utility vouchers, and Pell Grants. After all we are unkind
dysfunctional idiots.

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