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From: egwarman@outgun.com (EG Warman)
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Joe Smitzstein wrote ...
> 
> Based on this sentence, "yet another conspiracy", I believe that Mr.
> Warman suffers from schizophrenia.  In other words, it is not Mr.
> Warman's fault for the way he thinks and behaves, he has a mental
> illness.  I have met people with this disease and Mr. Warman's
> rhetoric is standard for this type of illness.  Mr. Warman if you 
> are reading this may I suggest you contact a doctor that specializes 
> in this type of mental illness and have a test performed.  
> The drugs that are available may be able to help you battle this disease.
> 
Hmmm.. It seems I have the Jew boys really slinging their PIG SHIT,
instead of doing what they do best, declare it kosher and dine
on it. Seems to me that we have adequate proof here that they are
suffering from "MAD JEW" disease - Creutzfeldts-Jacobs Disease.

I'm sure one could drive Ariel Sharon's tank through the holes 
in the brains of these Damage Control Goons.

And, may their babies be butchered in their Jew owned abortion
clinics.

Eldon Warman


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By: Congressman Ron Paul - House of Representatives
      
      203 Cannon - Washington D.C. 20515
      
       The other day, I made a huge "gaffe" on national TV: I told the
      truth about the crimes of the U.S. government.
      
       As you can imagine, the ceiling fell in, and a couple of walls
      too. Congressman are supposed to support the government, I was
      told. Oh, it's okay to criticize around the edges, but there are
      certain subjects a member of the House of Representatives is not
      supposed to bring up. But I touched the real "third-rail" of
      American politics, and the sparks sure flew.
      
       I was interviewed on C-SPAN's morning "Washington Journal," and 
      I used the opportunity, as I do all such media appearances, to 
      point out how many of our liberties have been stolen by the 
      federal government. We must take them back. The Constitution, 
      after all, has a very limited role for Washington, D.C.
      
       If we stuck to the Constitution as written, we would have: no
      federal meddling in our schools; no Federal Reserve; no U.S.
      membership in the UN; no gun control; and no foreign aid. We
      would have no welfare for big corporations, or the "poor"; no
      American troops in 100 foreign countries; no Nafta, Gatt, or
      "fast-track"; no arrogant federal judges usurping states rights; no
      attacks on private property; and no income tax. We could get rid
      of most of the cabinet departments, most of the agencies, and
      most of the budget. The government would be small, frugal, and
      limited.
      
      Poster's note: (Congressman Paul avoids noting that the 
      objectives of ALL of the despotic Federal legislation is 
      derived directly out of the Protocols Of The Learned Elders 
      Of Zion.)

        That system is called liberty. It's what the Founding Fathers
      gave us. Under liberty, we built the greatest, freest, most
      prosperous, most decent country on earth. It's no coincidence that
      the monstrous growth of the federal government has been
      accompanied by a sickening decline in living standards and
      moral standards. The feds want us to be hamsters on a
      treadmill--working hard, all day long, to pay high taxes, but
      otherwise entirely docile and controlled. The huge, expensive,
      and out-of-control leviathan that we call the federal government
      wants to run every single aspect of our lives.
      
       Well, I'm sorry, but that's not America. It's not what the
      Founders gave us. It's not the country you believe in. It's not the
      country I believe in. So, on that TV interview, I emphasized not
      only the attacks on our property, but also the decline of our civil
      liberties, at the hands of the federal police. There are not
      supposed to be any federal police, according to the Constitution.
      
       Then I really went over the line. I talked about the Waco
      massacre. Bill Clinton and Janet Reno claim those 81 church
      members, including 19 children, burned down their own church
      and killed themselves, and good riddance. So they put few
      survivors on trial, and threw them in prison for 40 years.
      
       We're not supposed to remember that the Bureau of Alcohol,
      Tobacco, and Firearms--talk about an unconstitutional
      agency--rather than arrest David Koresh on his regular morning
      jog, called in the TV stations for big publicity bonanza, and sent
      a swat team in black masks and black uniforms to break down his
      front door, guns blazing. They also sent in a helicopter gunship,
      to shoot at the roof of a church full of innocents.
      
       The Branch Davidians resisted, and after a heartless siege of
      almost two months, and after cutting off food, water, and
      electricity, and playing horrible rock and roll through huge
      speakers 24 hours a day, the feds sent in the tanks to crush the
      walls of the church, and inject poisonous CS gas.
      
       Now, CS gas is banned under the Paris Convention on
      Chemical Warfare. The U.S. could not use it in a war. But it
      could and did use it against American civilians.
      
       After the tanks did their work on the church, the place burst
      into flame, and all 81 people--men, women, children, and babies -
      were incinerated in a screaming horror. Did some feds set the
      fire? Did the flammable CS gas ignite, since without electricity,
      the parishioners were using lanterns? Did a tank knock over a
      lantern, striking one of the bales of hay being used against the
      thin walls as a "defense" against bullets? Or did the Davidians, as
      Clinton and Reno claim, kill themselves?
      
       A new documentary- -Waco: The Rules of Engagement- may
      show, through FLIR infrared photography, FBI snipers killing
      the Davidians by shooting through the back of the church, where
      no media cameras were allowed. This film won a prize at the
      famed Sundance Film Festival. It was made by people who took
      the government's side, until they investigated.
      
       Whatever the truth, there's no question that an irresponsible
      federal government has innocent blood on its hands, and not only
      from Waco. And the refusal of corrupt and perverse liberals to
      admit it means nothing.
      
       In my r~interview, in answer to a caller's question, I pointed out
      that Waco, and the federal murders at Ruby Ridge- especially the
      FBI sniper's shot that blasted apart the head of a young mother
      holding her baby- caused many Americans to live in fear of
      federal power. Then I uttered the sentiment that caused the media
      hysteria: I said that a lot of Americans fear that they too might be
      attacked by federal swat teams for exercising their constitutional
      rights, or merely for wanting to be left alone.
      
       Whoa! You've never seen anything like it. For days, in an
      all-out assault, I was attacked by Democrats, unions, big business,
      establishment Republicans, and- of course- the media, in
      Washington and my home state of Texas. Newspapers foamed at
      the mouth, calling me a "right-wing extremist." (Say, isn't that
      what George III called Thomas Jefferson?)
      
       I was even blamed for the Oklahoma City bombing! And by the
      way, I don't believe we've gotten the full truth on that either. All
      my many opponents were outraged that a Congressman would
      criticize big government. "If you don't like Washington, resign!"
      said a typical big-city newspaper editorial.
      
       But the media, as usual, were all wet. (Do they ever get
      anything right?) The average Congressman may go to
      Washington to wallow in power, and line his pockets with a big
      lobbying job for a special interest (so he can keep ripping-off the
      taxpayers). But that's not why I'm in Congress. It's not why I left
      my medical practice as a physician. It's not why I put up with all
      the abuse. It's not why I refuse a plush Congressional pension.
      
       I'm in this fight for a reason. I want to hand on to my children
      and grandchildren, and to you and your family, a great and free
      America, an America true to her Constitution, an America worthy
      of her history. I will not let the crooks and clowns and criminals
      have their way. I'm in Congress to represent the ideas of liberty,
      the ideas that you and I share, for the people of my district, for the
      people of Texas, for the people of America. That's why I'm
      working to stop federal abuses, and to cut the government: its
      taxes, its bureaucrats, its paramilitary police, its spending, its
      meddling overseas, and every single unconstitutional action it
      takes. And not with a pair of nail scissors, but with a hammer and
      chisel. Won't you help me do this work?
      
       Not much of the federal leviathan would be left, if I had my
      way. But you'd be able to keep the money you earn, your privacy
      would be secure, your dollar would be sound, your local school
      would be tops, and your kids wouldn't be sent off to some useless
      or vicious foreign war to fight for the UN. But Jefferson and the
      other Founders would recognize our government, and our
      descendants would bless us. By the way, when I say cut taxes, I
      don't mean fiddle with the code. I mean abolish the income tax
      and the IRS, and replace them with nothing.
      
       Recently, I asked a famous Republican committee chairman-
      who's always talking about getting rid of IRS- why he engineered
      a secret $580 million raise for the tax collectors. "They need 
      it for their computers," this guy told me. So the IRS can't 
      extract enough from us as it is! The National Taxpayers Union 
      says I have the highest pro-taxpayer rating in Congressional 
      history, that I am the top "Taxpayer's Best Friend." You know 
      I won't play the Capitol Hill games with the Capitol Hill gang,
      denouncing the IRS while giving the Gestapo more of your
      money. Or figuring out some other federal tax for them to
      squeeze out of you. I also want to abolish the Federal Reserve,
      and send Alan Greenspan out to get a job.
      
       The value of our dollar and the level of our interest rates are 
      not supposed to be manipulated by a few members of the power 
      elite meeting secretly in a marble palace. The Federal Reserve 
      is unconstitutional, pure and simple. The only Constitutional
      money is gold and silver, not notes redeemable in them. Not fed
      funny money. Without the Federal Reserve, our money could not
      be inflated at the behest of big government or big banks. Your
      income and savings would not lose their value. Just as important,
      we wouldn't have this endless string of booms and busts,
      recessions and depressions, with each bust getting worse. They
      aren't natural to the free market; they're caused by the schemers 
      at the Fed. President Andrew Jackson called the 19th-century Fed
      "The Monster" because it was a vehicle for inflation and all sorts
      of special-interest corruption. Let me tell you, things haven't
      changed a bit. I also work to save our schools from D.C.
      interference. Thanks to the feds, new curriculums not only smear
      the Founders as "racist, slave-owning elitists," they seek to dumb
      down our students so they will all be equal. "Look-say" reading
      and the abolition of phonics has the same purpose, and so does
      the new "fuzzy" math, in which there are no right and no wrong
      answers. That must be what they use in the U.S. Treasury! It's
      certainly what they use in the U.S. Congress.
      
       But ever since the beginning of federal aid to education and
      accelerating with the establishment of the rotten Department of
      Education, SAT scores have been dropping. Schools, with few
      exceptions, are getting worse every year. To save our kids, we
      must get the sticky fingers of the feds off our local schools, and
      let parents rule. That's what the Constitution says, and the Bible
      too.
      
       And then there's my least favorite topic, the UN. World
      government is obviously unconstitutional. It undermines our
      country's sovereignty in the worst way possible. That's why I
      want us out of the UN, and the UN itself taking a hike. After all,
      the UN is socialist and corrupt (many votes can be bought with a
      "blonde and a case of scotch," one UN ambassador once said). It
      costs many billions, and it puts our soldiers in UN uniforms
      under foreign commanders, and sends them off to
      unconstitutional, undeclared wars. When Michael New, one of
      the finest young men I've ever met, objected to wearing UN blue,
      he was kicked out of the American Army. What an outrage! Not
      one dime for the UN, and not one American soldier! Not in Haiti,
      not in Bosnia, not in Somalia, not in Rwanda. I know its radical,
      but how about devoting American military efforts to defending
      America, and only America?
      
       Such ideas, said one newspaper reporter, make me a maverick
      who will never go far because he won't go along to get along.
      Darn right! What does "go far" mean? Get a big government job?
      To heck with that. And I won't sell my vote for pork either. When
      I walked through the U.S. Capitol this morning, I got angry. The
      building is filled with statues and painting of Jefferson, Madison,
      and the other Founders. Those great men sacrificed everything to
      give us a free country, and a Constitution to keep it that way.
      When I was first elected, I placed my hand on the Bible and
      swore an oath to uphold the Constitution. That's exactly what I'm
      fighting for. But such ideas drive the liberals crazy. That's why I
      badly need your help. I've been targeted nationally for defeat. The
      Democrats, the AFL-CIO, the teachers union, big business PACs,
      the trial lawyers, the big bankers, the foreign-aid lobbyists, the
      big media, and the establishment Republicans want to dance on
      my political grave. The Fed, the Education Department, and the
      UN are anxious to join in. They can't stand even one person
      telling the truth. And they're terrified when that truth gains the
      people's support.
      
       Right now, four well-funded Democrats are competing to try to
      beat me, and a Republican is rumored to have been offered
      money at a secret meeting in Mexico(!) if he would try to knock
      me off in a primary. Won't you help me stay up here to fight?
      Frankly, I am in trouble if you don't. My Texas district has
      22,000 square miles (not a misprint). I've got to travel all over it,
      set up small offices to be manned by volunteers, advertise, pay
      phone bills, and distribute video and audio tapes to the people to
      get around the big-media lies. As I know from my last election,
      which I won by the skin of my teeth, the media will carry any
      smear, repeat any libel, throw any piece of mud, no matter how
      untrue. In fact, the less true, the more they like it. They are
      determined to silence me. But you can help me overcome all this.
      Together, we can beat the bad guys arrayed against our country
      and our freedom. We can support the Constitution. We can win.
      Your generous contribution of $25 or $50 would be great...
      $100, $250, or even $500 or $1,000 would be magnificent. Of
      course, any amount would help, and in return, I will keep you
      up-to-date on this fight as a member of my "kitchen cabinet."
      What great men founded this country! What great people have
      carried on their fight! That fight is not lost, not if you will 
      join it.

      Washington, D.C. is a loser, but among the people, our ideas are
      gaining every single day.
      
       Keep the tide turning in our direction. Please make your most
      generous contribution. Join this fight for the Constitution, and
      stop those who want to rip it up, and throw it in the Potomac.
      Together, we can join the Founders' fight. Together, we can make
      history.
      
       Sincerely, Ron Paul U. S. Congressman 203 Cannon,
      Washington D.C. 20515
      
       Committee to Re-elect Ron Paul - 837 W. Plantation - Clute,
      Texas 77531

Keep Your Eye on the Target: by Congressman Ron Paul
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/target.htm

Posted by:  Eldon Warman   Calgary


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PIG-DICK_SUCKING_JOE@asshole.cum (Jew Queer) wrote...
> 
> We Jew CON-ARTISTS sure like to stroke each other's dicks.

Yes, I notice that Benjamin Freedman pointed out in his speech:
"They were phallic worshippers, which is filthy and I do not want 
to go into the details of that now."
http://www.themodernreligion.com/jihad/freedman.html 

> No matter how much MUMBO JUMBO we cut and paste we will NEVER be
> able to post a basis to dispute law for Eldon's all-to-truthful
> detaxcanada website.
> 
> Avoid These Tax Protest Scams Like You Would Avoid The Plague
> so that you will be forced to continue filling our greedy Jew pockets.
> On a daily basis, we learn about various Jew scams, such as the 
> KOSHER TAX on groceries, which will only succeed in leading you down 
> a path of destruction if you are kept ignorant of the nature of we 
> deceiving JEWS. All of us perpetuate over the Internet. We JEWS run 
> from the utterly absurd to the completely ridiculous, from the 
> convicted felons to the merely looney. 

You forgot Mass murdering genocidilists....

> The bottom line is that ALL of the arguments we put up against 
> detaxing are complete works of fiction and none have any validity 
> whatsoever. See what sort of PIG SHIT we attempt to feed you because 
> we believe that you are just utterly stupid goyim (useful dumb 
> animals).
>
> http://www.taxes.com/tax_scams.html
> 
> Joe

All so true, and spoken in such truthful (for a change) speel.

Eldon Warman
http://www.detaxcanada.org


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BaconChaser@yahoo.com (Stinky Piggy) wrote in message news:...
> > > Nobody told this lady to have 10 kids or commit suicide.
> > > Suicide has never struck me as an effective form of protest.
> > > Most life insurance policies have a suicide clause - no money.
> > > 
> > > The worst thing is Jail, and they get no money.
> > > 
> > > The CCRA represents the corruption of the values,
> > > that should protect the public from an evergrowing,
> > > "puplic service".
> > 
> > What does having 10 kids have to with anything? She could have had 12
> > goats and a pig for all that it matters. She committed suicide because
> > she felt she had no options, her back was to the wall and she felt
> > that she was worth more dead than alive.  The family had the money in
> > RRSPs but CCRA would not wait for the 3 months time it would have
> > taken to collapse them. They had no food to eat and yet CCRA harrassed
> > and persecuted this family ... I do not see where justice has been
> > served and fairness implemented.
> 
> Aren't RRSP's in trust for retirement?
> She could have eaten the 12 goats, but not the pig.
> She could have told the CCRA to blow her goat?!
> 
> Justice?
> She made her own questionable decision.

What the Hell are you talking about? Her , and her husbands 
decisions was to claim their God Given rights against a JEW 
run despotic government and ripoff Kosher Nostra organization. 
I guess any decision to buck this evil empire is a "questionable 
decision" - correct?

Was this woman's having 10 children contrary to the policies of
having her children run through your Jew abitoirs - abortion 
clinics for you kosher food supply?

Eldon Warman


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majorquantrell@hotmail.com (quantrell) wrote in message news:...
> As opposed to the de-tax scam?
> 
> Q
> 
Anyone who wishes to go to my website:

http://www.detaxcanada.org/index1.htm

will find that my program is absolutely free for the taking.

Yes, I ask for donations, but, NOBODY has to send me a thin dime.

That is certainly different than paying Jews everytime one buys 
toilet paper or Saran Wrap, and about anything else from the grocery 
store.

Eldon Warman

> egwarman@outgun.com (EG Warman) wrote in message news:<2005a7f1.0204291046.45f40ca9@posting.google.com>...
> > The "Kosher Nostra Scam" on the American Consumer
> > by
> > Ernesto Cienfuegos
> > La Voz de Aztlan  
> > 
> > Los Angeles, Alta California - 4/27/2002 - (ACN)
> > 
> > La Voz de Aztlan receives quite a few "news tips. . .


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kmcvay@vex.net (Ken McVay) wrote in message news:<86nz8.3$md2.3259488@news.nnrp.ca>...
> In article ,
> Ian Kidou  wrote:
> >I actually came to the newsgroup to rant about tax time, but I
> >couldn't resist replying to this idiotic post.  There's a nice
> >rebuttal to these "Kosher tax" arguments at the Anti-Defamation
> >League website for those interested:
> >http://www.adl.org/special%5Freports/kosher%5Ftax/kosher_facts.h
> >tml
> 
> Mr. Warman is a rabid Judeophobe, with no interest in dealing with
> facts. The "kosher tax" issue, primarily propogated by members of the
> nazi "National Alliance," is right up Mr. Warman's alley.
> 
> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/antisemitism/kosher-tax

Hmmm.... Another lying Zionist JEW (oxymoron) jumps into this NG....

Ok! OiVay McVay, explain who pays for the circled K and other 
Jew pig shit splattered over our groceries?

Explain why Jews promote the murdering of millions of babies in 
their abitoirs (abortion clinics).

Explain why the Mossad saw fit to destroy the WTC buildings to 
insite the Americans to hate Arabs and fight the Luciferian state 
of Israel's war of genocide against Arabs.

Explain why Jews are the primary reason for counterfeit fiat money
in the world, and the concurrent income tax designed to destroy
men, families and nations.

Explain why the Jews saw fit to destroy the German nation.

Explain why the Jews are now destroying America and Canada.

That should keep your evil mind generating loes for the next 
few minutes shouldn't it OIVay?

Sure, go ahead and quote the PIG SHIT from the ADL scumbag
Zionist JEWS.... Very credible stuff......N O T !!!

Eldon Warman


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enkidou@urukNOSPAM.org (Ian Kidou) wrote in message news:...
> I actually came to the newsgroup to rant about tax time, but I
> couldn't resist replying to this idiotic post.  There's a nice
> rebuttal to these "Kosher tax" arguments at the Anti-Defamation
> League website for those interested:
> http://www.adl.org/special%5Freports/kosher%5Ftax/kosher_facts.h
> tml
> 
> They essentially point out that the cost of certifying goods as
> "Kosher" is a minimal .0000065 of a cent per item.  That's six
> and a half cents for a million dollars of goods sold going to
> to companies that manufacture the goods, and not necessarily
> to "the Jews".
> 
> It's always good to get both sides of an argument prior to
> making up one's mind about an issue.
> 
> egwarman@outgun.com (EG Warman) wrote in
> <2005a7f1.0204291046.45f40ca9@posting.google.com>: 
> 
> >The "Kosher Nostra Scam" on the American Consumer
> >by
> >Ernesto Cienfuegos
> 
> << snip goofy post >>

Isn't it amazing that whem Jew sleaze is exposed, it is 
downplayed as "minimal". 

Why should we Canadians be paying a "JEW TAX" regardless how
little, or how minimal?

Why is the exposure of this "JEW TAX" a "goofy post"?
This is Canada, and my groceries have the kosher tax stamp.
This NG isn't just about income tax.

And, Diablo, if you have the story on the "kosher tax" - if you
wish to send it to me, I will post it.

Eldon


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Rolf,
Would you like to learn how to say to the CCRA thugs "Go Fu*K Yourself"?

It's all on my website for free. Just follow the links.

http://www.detaxcanada.org

Eldon Warman

*** Now watch the Jew boys spread their treasonois PIG SHIT.........


sm5w2@yahoo.com (Rolf Bunger) wrote in message news:<568a1009.0204241718.5b9ace70@posting.google.com>...
> Anyone out there seen this before?  Any tips on how to deal with it?
> 
> What is a "Statement of Assets and Liabilities" ?  Is such a statement
> part of an ordinary tax return?  If not, can they really ask for that?
> 
> Is the income tax act on the web?
> 
> I thought the only time there was a penalty for not filing was when
> you actually owed money.  What's the point of assessing a penalty if
> it turns out there is no tax owing?
> 
> ----------------------
> (given to me personally, in a sneaky way, by two people who were not
> the person signed at the bottom of this document, and I did not sign
> their form stating I had received these documents from them, and they
> did not ask for nor did I show them any ID, and I'm still wondering
> how they found out where I lived).
> 
> 
> Dear X:
> 
> For the purposes related to the administration or enforcement of the
> Income Tax Act, pursuant to the provisions of paragraph 231.2(1)(a) of
> the said Act, I hereby require from you on or before the X'th day of
> Some Month, 2002:
> 
> A completed and signed T1 General Income Tax and Benefit Return on
> Form T1 for the taxation year (199x), including a Statement of Assets
> and Liabilities and a Statement of Income and Expenses.
> 
> If this requirement is not complied with on or before the (above
> date), you will be liable to prosecution without further notice. 
> Subsection 238(1) of the said Act provides that a person who fails to
> comply with this requirement is guilty of an offence and is liable on
> summary conviction to a fine of not less than $1000 and not more than
> $25,000 or both the fine and imprisonment not exceedint 12 months.
> 
> (a few more paragraphs deleted)
> 
> Yours Truly
> 
> Some Guy
> Director
> A-Canadian-City Tax Services Office
> Canada Customs and Revenue Agency


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> Fred Grosby, a Zionist Jew, posting as Enter your name, wrote ...
> Mr Warman,
> 
Your continued idiotic Zionist JEW DAMAGE CONTROL diatribe shows
that this is Fred Grosby, the American Jew who has been assigned by 
the ADL to counter any detax programs from Calgary. Since he cannot
come up with any new rhetoric, he spews the same old PIG SHIT - over
and over.


> > EG Warman wrote:
> >
> > Enter your name, with initials  wrote ...
> >
> > > your subject has cought my eye, however seems far from the contents.
> > > either I'm stupid, you are stupid, or I've overlooked something, because
> > > looking briefly over your pages and the pages showing why your program
> > > doesn't work, I gather that your program can only work if a court
> > > agrees, that a flesh-and-blood man/woman isn't a "person" under the
> > > income tax act. but either I or you are stupid, since in the very pages
> > > you have posted against your claims
> > > http://www.telusplanet.net/public/grosby/detax_unmasked/00-CV-14232.html
> > > it shows that the *contrary has been proved*, and flesh-and-blood
> > > man/woman has been decided in court to be a "person" for the income tax
> > > purposes!!!
> > >
> > To whom are you addressing the above?
> 
>   you! the only person in these newsgroups which say that they are not a
> person is you and the court file clearly shows that you are not correct.
> 
> > The webpage you link is that of a Jew damage control goon based in Calgary.
> 
> unless that court file doesn't exist, it is an indication to us - that
> your program doesn't work
> 
> or are you saying that the applicant in the above court file wasnt using
> your program ?!
> 
> > The Jews assigned to monitor the can.taxes NG haven't been calling
> > me stupid, but they have a lot of other "complimentary" names which
> > convince People to check out my webpage, since they know that Jews
> > cannot be trusted in word or deed, and anyone they give that much
> > attention deserves investigation.
> >
> > You may not be stupid, just ignorant as a result of the Jew contrived
> > education system designed to dumb down the goyim.
> 
> thank you for explanation but please keep jews and religion out of the
> discussion
> 
Why? All I see is Zionist JEW pig shit being spread in your posts.
All you can do is spew the few phrases you have gleaned directly 
of the ADL webpages.

> > There hasn't been any evidence whatsoever that my detax program is
> > wrong or has any inconsistent concepts of law.
> 
> then what do you call the ruling in the above court file ? is it not
> evidence that your program doesn't work ? or are you saying that the
> applicant wasnt using your program ? or he "misapply" your program ?!
> can you reasonably answer these questions ?
> 
> > Just their saying so,
> > without any proof whatsoever, isn't exactly proof of inefficacy.
> 
> it is not "Just their saying so". it is *the court*'s saying so. and
> that's who gives orders to officers which then take you in handcuffs to
> your cimplimentary cold cell for a while. once a court decides and
> applicant cannot / doesnot appeal (and maybe even if he/she does), the
> courts decision is enFORCED upon the party.
> 
> when a court sentences someone (eg mr kennedy) saying that he (the
> flesh-and-blood mr kennedy) is a person under the income tax act, it
> seems pretty solid proof to us (to me at least, anyway) of inefficacy.
> or is it not ? can you reason it (without using ideas about jews, zion,
> etc) ? can you ?
> 
> > Spreading the threat that "no court has" is pure Jew hogwash.
> 
> i'm no jew - how can I be spreading "jew hogwash" ?!
> 
PIG SHIT !!

Eldon 

> 
> > Someone in the army is a "flesh and blood man/woman". Yet, they have
> > no right to free will choice. The reason is that they are under
> > contract
> > with the Crown to be "subject" to the Crown by oath of servitude.
> > Their status has been changed by that contract from freeman to
> > servant,
> > an "outlaw" - outside the common law rights status.
> 
> and how exactly have you arrived to such conclusion ? can you quote the
> law (or several laws, which *logically* conclude it ) where it says that
> anyone (any canadian citizen) who files a T1 "is changing her/his status
> from a freeman to servant, an outlaw outside outside the common law
> rights" ? can you, or are you just going to fill this newsgroup with
> unsupported claims, and expect people to believe you ? now here is a
> challenge for you mr warman that you got yourself into, and you are
> stuck, because there is not such law !!! laws are here to protect people
> not to "change their status to a servant".
> 
> on related note - why havent we seen in the newsgroup anyone say (except
> you) that your detax has not put them behind bars / stolen their
> possessions ? why shouldn't people consider subject of your message
> "STOP Slavery In Canada and START jail time in Canada" ?
> 
> > The same status by assumed contract is the fate of a Canadian who
> > files
> > a T1 "return of income". Yes, it is still a flesh-and-blood man, a
> > natural person, but of outlawed servant status.
> 
> can you prove that by quoting what is written in the law ? in the law
> that is upheld and respected in the courts that have jurisdiction - the
> right to pronounce and enforce sentences - over canadian citizens ?
> 
> > > 1. am I stupid ?  MAYBE.  MAYBE JUST IGNORANT
> > > 2. are you stupid  MY MOTHER SAYS "NOT".
> > > 3. you are unaware of the court file above YES
> > > 4. I've overlooked something  YES
> > > 5. any other possibility ?  NO.
> > >
> > >  or can you provide reference to any court file which agreed, or at
> > > least didn't deny that a flesh-and-blood man/woman is not a "person"
> > > ?!?!?! SHOW ME ! I'm not suprised you can't.!
> > >
> > Have you considered the fact that the Crown has not take anyone to
> > court who has been using my system.
> 
> and what do you call the above court case file ? doesn't CCRA represent
> the Crown ? hasn't the Crown, therefore, taken mr kennedy to court ?!
> 
> > I have been using it since 1985.
> > I have not been to court. Very difficult to find court records which
> > do not exist.
> 
> so you are saying that you have ignored summons ?! or you have "friends"
> somewhere to make sure you dont get any summons ? or you have "made
> peace" or bargained with RC/CCRA not to take action against you ?
> 
> what sort of a creature are you that summons do not apply to you ?
>  (didn't they apply to mr kennedy ?!)
> 
> > Others I have helped who got into the mess before finding
> > me have had "stays". Cases that are stayed for over a year are removed
> > from the records. Very difficult to produce those.
> 
> why isnt here anybody voicing this except for you ? why do we not hear
> from other people "mr warman's program worked for me - I didn't have to
> pay taxes and I am not behind bars" ?
> 
> why arent those others saying that "they are free" and "they are not
> subjects to the Crown" and that "they were never sentenced using your
> program" ? do you have a single witness except yourself ?
> 
> 
> > Two (obvious test) cases are stayed from early March 2002 to October 2.
> 
> you are saying that your program relieves from being dragged to court
> (as you say you have never been to one) so how come now you are saying
> that there are cases which are in court ? what gives ? or did they do
> something wrong ? (ie they didnt follow your program?)
> 
> what is the argument in these cases ?
> 
> btw why do you say "obvious test" - I don't understand the context.
> which two cases, if they are public
> 
> > Have they won or lost - have to wait until October. If my program
> > were that ineffective, do you suppose the judges would have stayed
> > them when Canada would have been shown that CCRA's authority was all
> > powerful for the April 2002 filing deadline by a "slam dunk" guilty
> > decision for failure to file? How long does it take for the Crown
> > council to prove that someone didn't file? 5 minutes maybe?
> >
> > > > FREE !! It's been working fine for 17 years.....
> > >  you are say "It's been working fine for 17 years.....", whilest it has
> > > probably put mr kennedy behind bars! (I wonder why I hasn't seen mr
> > > kennedy in this newsgroup, proclaimg how great your program is. do you
> > > have *anybody's* public withness (except yourself), about how well it
> > > has worked for them. And if it did, why wouldn't they speak up ?!
> > > Perhaps becayuse there arent any ?! HUH ?!? Because they are all behind
> > > bars ?!!
> > >
> > Is that a typical JEW scare tactic - say maybe Fruity Freddy Grosby
> > the KIKE speaking here?
> >
> > You can ask Tom Kennedy yourself. Go to his webpage
> > http://www.cyberclass.net or e-mail him 
> >
> > > thank god there is still some sanity left in the courts, not letting
> > > people base their arguments on "color" is not "colour" and "labor" is
> > > not "labour". !!
> > > you call our courts phony, but I call a court phony if it lets people
> > > get away with argument "color" is not "colour".!!
> > >
> > > sorry for the rant, but your claims are just maddeing. they have no
> > > support ! let's get back to reason ...
> > >
> > You cannot even spell! Of what type reasoning are you capable?
> 
> sorry for spelling typos, I hope it doesn't get in the way of
> communication.
> 
> > > in your reply please don't include any propaganda (propaganda == making
> > > claims unsupported by widely accepted facts), since making claims that
> > > look outlandish (hard to believe) without adequate evidence make the
> > > claimant look like an idiot, in court room or in newsgroups.
> > >
> > Such as?
> 
> such as "It is pretty obvious that these damage control goons are
> Zionist Jews". 1. whether they are Zionist Jews or Martian UFOs doesn't
> change validity of your detax program nor 2. does it foster useful topic
> for can.taxes 3. it is not obvious to me nor do I wish to be informed
> why should they be 4. if it was obvious you wouldnt have to state it
> would you
> 
> > > it seems that there is no way, you can prove step-by-step (using steps
> > > that a court either accepts or CCRA cannot or didnt disprove), that a
> > > flesh-and-blood man/woman citizen of Canada it not required by law to
> > > pay taxes. so until you can do that, please don't tell people that you
> > > have a program, if all it does for people is losing them in court, as
> > > I'm sure mr thomas kennedy (see above court file) could tell us about.
> > >
> > So! You've already made up your mind, have you Freddie the Kike.
> 
> no, I'm just saying what it seems like. It seems somewhat upsetting that
> some people would like to claim that they are not liable to pay taxes,
> since we are all working hard and pay our taxes. thats why I say it
> seems that there cannot be a law allowing one not to pay taxes
> 
> > I don't attempt to prove anything to a court or to CCRA.
> 
> as far as I know, tax issues are ones where the defendant has to prove
> innocence (the burden of proof is on you), whereas on criminal and all
> other issues the paintiff has to prove guilt (burden of proof is on the
> Crown). so unless one can prove things in court, they will be sentenced.
> 
> > I don't have to. The court must prove to me by production of a valid
> > contract that I, or any Canadian, has made a contract of servitude
> > with the Crown.
> 
> and which law exactly says so ?! (or conclusion of which law(s))
> 
> what has servitude to the Crown to do with taxes ?
> 
> many people coming to this country as immigrants (like my
> brother-in-law) swear allegiance under oath to the Queen, her heirs and
> successors
> 
> doesnt the crown represent the queen ?!
> 
> 
> > The Crown must rebut my affidavit denying corporate
> > existence with an affidavit, containing valid proofs of such a
> > contract.
> 
> 1. if the income tax act applies (as in case of mr kennedy) to
> flesh-and-blood man, why must The Crown rebut your affidavit denying
> your corporate existence ?
> 
> 2. who says corporate existance requires a contract
> 
> 3. and haven't they done so in the court case file against mr kennedy ?
> 
> > The Crown insists that it exists,
> 
> and doesnt it? is there no record ? no articles of incorporation ?
> isnt it on almost every prosecution court papers, "The Crown" ?!
> what if
> 
> > and imposes corporate
> > administrative law upon any Canadian who has filed a T1 form and
> > fails or refuses to obey the regulations within the income tax act.
> > Anyone charged under the income tax act needs only to serve a denial
> > affidavit upon the clerk of the court.
> 
> a denial affidavit which says "person of my name doesn't exist" or
> denial affidavit saying "The Crown doesn't exist" ?
> 
> if that was so, why would one still have to claim not to be a person ?!
> 
> regards DS
> 
> >
> > > regards DS
> >
> > Eldon Warman
> > http://www.detaxcanada.org


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>From the following webpage: 
http://www.vegan.swinternet.co.uk/articles/conspiracies/protocols_proof.html

Quote
Introduction

The document known now as The Protocols of the Learned Elders of 
Zion is one of the most important documents ever to come to light 
in the world. In fact, it can be described as the blueprint for the 
domination of the world by a secret brotherhood. 

It is graphic in its contempt for those who will be its victims, 
in its profound understanding of the human condition and mind; and 
it is equally graphic in detailing the methodology it will use 
against, and with the complicity of, the world's population, in 
such a way as to go unrecognised by the vast majority of the 
participants. 

The document has achieved fame and infamy in its time. Essentially, 
the accusations levelled against it are that it is a fraud and a 
forgery. Some say it is a report of a genuine conspiracy but has 
been blamed on the Jews in order to hide its true origins, and that 
to believe it to be genuinely Judaic shows one to be ‘anti-Semitic'. 
This kind of black propaganda and emotional reaction arises quite 
naturally in the course of events whenever any proof of the ancient 
conspiracy against humanity is uncovered. 

Despite a general misconception amongst certain politically-aligned 
groups and ill-informed individuals – including Jews and non-Jews 
alike – that the Protocols are a ‘proven fraud', this is not the 
case, as I will show. 

The cry of ‘anti-Semitic' is a standard one and almost automatic 
>from ill-informed, if often well-intentioned individuals who have 
little background knowledge of the vast history and consciousness 
of the perpetrators of the ‘world revolution'. The majority of 
people remain drastically unaware of the conspiracy because a 
vital aspect of the conspiracy is to hide itself behind many walls 
of secrecy, as the following information will show. Those that 
would call ‘anti-semitism', or say ‘there is no conspiracy', are 
amongst the greatest victims of the very conspiracy they 
vehemently deny. 

Someone who has lived in a box without windows for their entire life 
might genuinely cry out ‘there is no sun, it is a myth, a vicious 
lie and anti-boxism'. There remains, however the unalterable fact 
that there is as sun and those that point this out to the one in the 
box, in an attempt to enlighten and free them from self-imposed 
ignorance, are not automatically ‘anti-boxists' or feel any sort 
of hatred towards boxes or those who live in them at all. 

Neither is the reporting of the following document anti-Semitic. 
It is a call to the attention of those who may have been born into 
the current age of suppression and propaganda, and have yet to 
recoup some of this information which until very recently was 
openly discussed on a global scale. However, since the triumphs 
of Zionism and the further implementation of mass mind/information 
control since the Second World War, with regards to anything 
remotely Jewish, such information has been buried through 
censorship and revision of history books by the very power 
which imposed the conspiracy in the first place. 

The Protocols make it quite clear that ‘anti-semitism', meaning 
‘anti-Judaic', is an ‘indispensable' part of the plan for world 
domination. It will be used for ‘the management of our lesser 
brethren'. 

This document makes chilling reading for both Jews and Gentiles 
alike when one looks back to the treatment of Jewry during the 
Second World War; that a self-appointed elite should be willing 
to sacrifice and allow the persecution of their ‘lesser brethren', 
for the greater aim of world domination, should be a wake up 
call to all of Jewry, the vast majority of whom constitute what 
the authors of the Protocols deem to be ‘lesser brethren' 

‘Anti-Semitic' is a phrase which means ‘against Semites' but has 
come to be used solely as meaning ‘anti-Jewish'. The irony inherent 
in this ill-used phrase is that the Semitic Arabs are actually 
amongst the greatest victims in the crime and fraud known as 
Zionism, in which Russian Jews, who are racially non-Semitic, in 
the first half of the Twentieth Century, fostered and executed a 
plan to create an officially recognised Jewish homeland in 
Palestine. 

The result of which was the mass displacement and persecution of 
the indigenous Arab citizens. This is without doubt ‘anti-semitism' 
at its worst. And yet to state this plain fact openly today is to 
invite the accusation of being ‘anti-Semitic'! I will also show 
in this work that the ordinary Jewish people, unbeknownst to 
themselves, have been victims to the same ancient agenda and are 
considered by the Elders to be necessary sacrifices to the Cause. 

The main point pertinent to this work is that the plan and execution 
of this agenda was predicted and detailed in the Protocols, before 
the Zionist plan began to be put into action openly on the world 
stage. More dramatically, however, the agenda outlined in the 
Protocols was foreshadowed by over 2,000 years of similar documents, 
edicts and statements. 

The document itself attributes the authorship of these self-same 
conspiratorial Protocols to the highest echelons of world Jewry. 
It would be madness to ignore the possibility that this document 
is genuine and authored by those claimed, simply because certain 
people find it offensive. Because if it is genuine, then people 
absolutely should find it offensive! It is the greatest single 
betrayal of both Jews and Gentiles imaginable. Even if it were 
not authored by a Jewish elite, the fact that world Jewry have 
suffered along the very lines as predicted in the document, 
should be enough for every Jew alive to give this document their 
full attention. 

Both Communism and Zionism can be seen to be the two means by which 
the Protocols unfolded during the early Twentieth Century. Whilst 
Communism acted to tear down the Russian aristocratic system and 
replace it with a tyranny and dictatorship led predominantly by 
Jews, placing a vast area of territory and human resources into 
the hands of the conspirators, Zionism used the false accusation 
of the need for the establishment of the prophesied Jewish homeland 
to re-home the Eastern Jews who were being badly persecuted in 
Russia at the time. In fact, as is shown by government documents 
of the time, the accusation of mass anti-Semitism and pogroms in 
Russia at the turn of the century is massively exaggerated. 

This was essentially a Press-led propaganda tactic employed in 
the West to further the aims of Zionist interests and to ease 
the passage of the masses of Eastern Jews who emigrated to the 
West around the late 19th and early 20th Century. According to 
Zionist Rabbi Stephen Wise, until 1900, American Zionism was 
confined to immigrant Jews (Khazar Ashkenazim), and the mass of 
American Jews (mainly German ‘Western' Sephardim) were opposed 
to it. 

However, by 1910, a million Jewish immigrants had arrived in 
America from Russia and the Zionist lobby began to represent a 
significant number of voters. Today, Jews represent approximately 
3% of the American population but occupy more or less 90% of all 
the key positions in the US-Administration. Just as in Russia 
following the Bolshevik Revolution, the number of Jews numbered 
around 10% of the population, whereas the number of Jews in the 
Bolshevik government was approximately 90%. 

Another interesting ‘coincidence', President Franklin Roosevelt 
(from a Jewish family) had seventy-two advisors around him when 
he led the USA into World War II of whom fifty-two were known Jews. 
The Elders of Zion consist of the Sanhedrin, the highest Jewish 
authority since Biblical times, officially numbering 71, and the 
Judaic texts also reveal the existence of a King, making 72. 
Whilst in Britain in 1999, the Labour government admitted that 
it has 72 official ‘advisors' or ‘spin-doctors'. Both Roosevelt 
and Blair have implemented social ‘reforms' called the ‘New Deal', 
which in the USA was also known by those in the know as the ‘Jew 
Deal'. Do we see here history repeating itself? 

As the well tried and tested truism says: those who refuse to learn 
the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them. 

The British and American governments were manipulated by the 
Zionists – against the overwhelming opposition of the Western 
Jews and the Palestinian Jews and the majority of Gentiles – to 
commit themselves to the creation of an official Jewish homeland 
in Palestine, which had nothing to do with British national 
interest, at an enormous cost during a time – the First World 
War – when all manpower and resources were desperately needed 
to fight the enemy. 

Why this should have occurred is against all logic. However, the 
most revealing insight into the modus agendi and the modus 
operandi of the world manipulators is acquired through reading 
the Protocols. 

Not only does this document illuminate the reason for the massive 
success of international Zionism, but it also provides profound 
insight into every single political situation of the last century 
and sheds great light on much of what has transpired for the past 
2,600 years on the world stage. 

Stunningly, virtually everything planned for and predicted in the 
Protocols has provably come to pass. This document is as pertinent 
today as it was when it first came to light in 1905. 

Recent world political history has been provably controlled and 
manipulated by Russian Jews, who have no racial ties or origin in 
the land of Palestine, who flocked to the West a century ago. That 
century has provably unfolded according to the Protocols, which 
ascribe themselves to the elite of world Jewry. The earliest Jewish 
holy works (Torah), right up to the latest (Talmud and Zohar) have 
continually promised that the world would be delivered to the Jews 
and that the Gentile nations would be consumed and ruled by the 
single Chosen People who would govern them. That this would be a 
coincidence, and the Protocols a mere act of deceitful 
anti-semitism, has to be the grossest form of ill-logic. 

The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion is a document which 
should be read by all. No other single document provides us with 
such a clear understanding of why the world is gradually moving 
towards a One World Government, controlled by an irreproachable 
hidden hand. In fact, in the Protocols, we are given clear insights 
as to why so many incomprehensible political decisions are made 
in both local, national and international politics, which seem to 
continually work against the favour of the masses and in favour 
of the vested interests of the banking/industrial cartel – the 
global power elite. 

We ignore it at our peril. Unquote

You can hide your head in the sand and accept the damage control
pig shit from the Zionist Jews - and most of you already have, 
because both American and Canadians have lost their rights and 
freedoms to the Zionist Jews - Don't believe me? Did you file 
an income tax return? Did you pay income tax? Yes? There's your 
proof!

Read what was reported in this French newspaper in 1928: Quote

The Committee of 300's Banking Fraud 

"The Jewish people as a whole will be its own Messiah, It will 
attain world dominion by the dissolution of other races, by the 
abolition of frontiers, the annihilation of monarchy, and by the 
establishment of a world republic in which the Jews will 
everywhere exercise the privilege of citizenship. In this new 
world order the children of Israel will furnish all the leaders 
without encountering opposition. 

The Governments of the different peoples forming the world republic 
will fall without difficulty into the hands of the Jews. It will 
then be possible for the Jewish rulers to abolish private property, 
and everywhere to make use of the resources of the state. Thus will 
the promise of the Talmud be fulfilled, in which is said that when 
the Messianic time is come, the Jews will have all the property of 
the whole world in their hands". (Baruch Levy, in a letter to Karl 
Marx, La Revue de Paris, page 574, June 1, 1928.  Unquote

Posted by:  Eldon Warman


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"Don"  wrote in message news:...
> "Diablo"  wrote in message
> news:160520021044444833%irc-diablo@shaw.ca...
> > In article , Don
> >  wrote:
> >
> > > "EG Warman"  wrote in message
> > > news:2005a7f1.0205152102.320657ce@posting.google.com...
> > > > Diablo  wrote in message
>  news:<150520021425227870%irc-diablo@shaw.ca>...
> > > > > Duckin' Donny and Joe the duck MUST be related! Both have proven
>  that
> > > > > they are nothing more than idiots!
> > > > >
> > > > That too, Diablo; but, it certainly proves that they are of the
> > > > MASS MURDERING ZIONIST JEW CULT - The cancer of Mother Earth.
> > > >
> > > > Eldon
> > >
> > Don,
> >
> > Have you stopped beating your wife yet?
> 
> Difficult to answer as I'm not married.  Any more non-sequitars or 
> does your head hurt trying to get a thought out.
> 
You're not married, Don? That's surprising? Aren't they allowing
"queer" marriages in Ontario now? Guess your just too busy 
scrounging human fetuses out of the Jew owned abortion clinic 
garbage bins for your Zionist Cult rituals, eh?

Eldon


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This is where your income taxes are going?   EGW
*********************************************************
U.S. CONTROL - THAT IS THE GOAL
By Robert Jensen and Rahul Mahajan 

For all the talk of a "special relationship" between the United 
States and Israel, it's clear that for American policymakers there's 
nothing particularly special about their support for Israel or 
rejection of Palestinian rights. 

For all the talk in Washington about peace in the Middle East, it's 
clear that American policymakers are not much concerned about peace. 

Instead, the primary aim of U.S. policy in the Middle East is U.S. 
dominance over the region and its oil resources, through support for 
regimes that play our game and through our ever-increasing military 
presence. 

To the degree that U.S. policymakers believe backing Israeli conquest 
and aggression in Palestine advances U.S. long-term business 
interests, support for Israel continues. To the degree that peace 
helps solidify U.S. control, peace is acceptable. 

But U.S. policy is driven neither by unquestioned support for Israel 
nor concern for people's suffering in conflicts. Any hope for real 
peace requires getting past this rhetoric to the reality of U.S. 
policy. 

That reality is clear: The central principle of every U.S. 
administration since the end of World War II has been that the 
resources of the region do not truly belong to the people of the 
region, but instead exist for the benefit of Americans. 

It is not simply a question of who owns the oil, but who controls the 
flow of oil and oil profits. Even if the United States were energy 
self-sufficient, U.S. elites would seek to dominate the Middle East 
for the leverage it brings in world affairs, especially over the 
economies of our primary competitors (Europe and Japan), which are 
more heavily dependent on Middle Eastern oil. 

One component of this policy is support for the oil-rich countries, 
such as Saudi Arabia. Saudi rulers take their cut of the profits, 
channeling what remains into investments in the West and the purchase 
of U.S. weapons. In exchange, Saudi Arabia -- a monarchy that could 
not exist independently -- gets U.S. protection. 

In this system, Israel is a key pillar of U.S. strategy. Especially 
after its impressive military victory over the Arab states in 1967, 
Israel was a hammer that was used to smash Arab nationalism, which 
could have upset the system of weak, fragmented client regimes that 
the United States favors. 

Israel serves as a local cop on the beat, in the terminology of the 
Nixon Doctrine, and an integral part of the U.S. military-
intelligence complex in that part of the world. These roles became 
especially important after the Iranian revolution in 1979, when the 
U.S. lost its other main base in the region. 

Israel also serves as a convenient foil for the United States. Even 
though the United States has exercised tremendous, repressive control 
over the region, until recently the brunt of Arab anger was always 
borne by Israel, with the United States representing itself to the 
Arabs as a friend. The U.S.-backed Arab regimes use this foil as 
well, diverting the anger of the so-called "Arab street" away from 
those states' corruption and despotism, to Israel. 

This analysis is often rebuffed by pointing to the frequent tensions 
between the United States and countries in the region, including 
allies. How is it that these nations are our clients when they seem 
so unruly? 

This simply reflects the complexity of maintaining control in such a 
volatile region. It is common practice for empires to set up client 
regimes in a region and then play them off each other, which not 
surprisingly produces tension, especially when the governments are 
not representative of their people. That's what U.S. diplomatic and 
military officials are paid to do -- manage the tensions, always 
keeping an eye on the ultimate goal. 

U.S. control -- not peace -- is that goal. That is why policymakers 
were happy to see Iraq and Iran at war throughout the 1980s and gave 
various kinds of covert support to both sides. Never mind the 
millions killed -- it kept the two regional powers at each other's 
throats, and hence weakened. 

In Palestine, if the United States were serious about promoting peace 
it would have long ago joined the international consensus for a 
political settlement built on a viable state for the Palestinians and 
security for Israel. Instead, it has long blocked that consensus, 
such as when it vetoed a 1976 U.N. Security Council resolution that 
offered something much like the Saudi plan being touted today as a 
solution. 

U.S. leaders don't mind peace, so long as it is within a system that 
doesn't threaten U.S. control. Yes, a Middle East in a constant state 
of tension -- either engaged in war or on the verge of war -- has 
been dangerous. But that's a price the United States has been willing 
to pay. 

These points are crucial to answering the claim that U.S. leaders 
simply do Israel's bidding. Of course there are well-organized and 
well-funded groups in the United States lobbying very effectively for 
Israel. And of course U.S. politicians feel pressure from vocal 
constituents who support Israel. But those domestic political 
realities alone do not drive U.S. financial and diplomatic support 
that allows Israel to continue to defy international law in its 35-
year military occupation of the West Bank and Gaza. Israeli Prime 
Minister Ariel Sharon has skillfully used the "war on terrorism" 
banner to expand further the level of violence against Palestinians 
that the United States will accept, and the expressions of reflexive 
support for Israel in Congress have never been stronger. 

But in the end, the U.S. policymakers shape foreign policy to benefit 
U.S. elite economic interests, not those of another country. 

The inevitable conclusion to draw from this is that United States 
cannot be a positive force in the Middle East without a fundamental 
shift in goals: The United States must replace its quest for control 
with a commitment to peace AND justice, under international law. 

Never has it been more crucial that Americans understand this. While 
Israel steps up the violence in Palestine, the Bush administration 
plots a war on Iraq. U.S. officials tell us Iraq presents a grave 
threat to the world, though other nations (including Kuwait) don't 
feel threatened and all the world (save Israel and the always-loyal 
Tony Blair) rejects the U.S. plans. 

It's not that other countries support Saddam Hussein's brutal regime, 
but that they see that a war on Iraq will deepen U.S. control over 
the region at the expense of the Iraqi people. As U.S. officials talk 
about bringing democracy and freedom to Iraq, they search for an 
Iraqi general who can be trusted to follow U.S. orders if put in 
charge. All this after more than a decade of economic sanctions -- 
demanded by the United States, largely to break Iraqi control of its 
own oil -- that have killed a half-million Iraqi children (according 
to a comprehensive UNICEF study). 

The more the United States overplays its hand in the Middle East, the 
more the rest of the world sees clearly U.S. intentions. The question 
is, can we the American people see the same, and demand of our 
government a policy geared toward justice not domination. 

Author Robert Jensen is a professor of journalism at the University 
of Texas and author of Writing Dissent: Taking Radical Ideas from the 
Margins to the Mainstream. Rahul Mahajan serves on the National Board 
of Peace Action and is author of The New Crusade: America's War on 
Terrorism. Both are members of the Nowar Collective 
http://www.nowarcollective.com  They can be reached at 
rjensen@uts.cc.utexas.edu. 

Article published in Palestine Chronicle May14, 2002
http://palestinechronicle.com/article.php?story=20020514015523830 
End article

Posted by:

Eldon Warman
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Things may not be so gloomy after all.
Check out this webpage: Tesla to the RESCUE!

http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/meg.htm
 
Eldon Warman


"news"  wrote in message news:...
> Our access to lo-cost energy, the foundation of the
> world's various economies is soon to be *KAPUT!*.
> 
> Without lo-cost energy, present day *Civilization*
> will collapse as an over-populated world competes
> for MORE of the LESS and LESS that remains.
> 
> No one needs a crystal ball to foresee the coming problems
> including anarchy, starvation and the use of all Nuclear
> and other Weapons Of Mass Murder.
> 
> In 1980 the Government of Canada was told why Humanity,
> lost to "The Madness Of Greed", would suffer that insane end.
> 
> The result is the Tax Refusal with over 20,000 participants
> using the TAX EXEMPT STATUS card throughout Canada.
> 
> The widespread use of that "Energizing Icon" of the Tax Refusal,
> will soon cause ALL to recognize and act on their lawful DUTY
> to refuse to support societies that participate in plans and
> preparations that are predicated on a sure and certain
> will and capacity to commit Mass Murder.
> 
> When you decide to ACT on that right and duty:
> 
> You need not purchase the TAX EXEMPT STATUS card other
> than as a sign of your support for the goal of the Tax Refusal.
> You merely need to publicly state that you shall never again
> support a society that would commit Mass Murder.
> ************************************************************
>                            Say *NO* To Societal Insanity
> ************************************************************
>       TUNE IN  -  http://www.taxrefusal.com  -  TAX OUT


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majorquantrell the Jew MASS MURDERER wrote...
> StaR_x@kissmyass.com (StaR) wrote in message news:<3ceaeee4.21581873@nntp>...
> > 
> > Because to this day my fascist little pig you have NOT been able to
> > refute the FACT OF LAW that to be a "natural" PERSON, a LEGAL ENTITY
> > as so DEFINED by the BODY CORPORATE, is to have a "character of a
> > corporation" and/or a CORPORATE EXISTENCE as a MEMBER of the CORPORATE
> > UNIT.. snip
> 
> Q 2) That rant has no basis in law. A natural person is a natural
> person

Now, isn't that perfectly logical!!????

I read the same thing in the original income tax act definition of
"person":-  The Income War Tax Act (1917): 2(d) "person" means any 
individual or person and any syndicate, etc. etc.

So, what do we learn here? A "person" is, welll... a "person"... 
DAAAHHH??? 

A man in the army is a "natural person"; however, we know that man 
got into the army by contract, and we know that man no longer has 
the right of the use of his free will, except for obedience to 
superior officers (of the corporate body)- "natural persons" until
his stint with the army is complete (contract of subjugation is 
complete).

Man! These Jews, like Rayder, do have a way of clarifying the 
meanings of words... To suit their own Zionist treasonous schemes.

Eldon Warman
http://www.detaxcanada.org


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detax_unmasked@hotmail.com (Detax Unmasked) wrote in message news:<3ceff5e1.21513138@news.his.com>...
> asiasvoren  wrote ...
> 
> [Gigantic copy-and-paste screed stupidly posted without the slightest
> bit of critical thought shown by the poster omitted]
> 
> ... well, nothing.
> 
> 
> ====
> 

> Learn the facts about Eldon Warman and Detax Canada at:
> http://www.telusplanet.net/public/grosby/detax_unmasked/
#############################################################

Worth repeating, as we have these other JEW JUNK chiming
in to help their KOSHER buddy. I'm sure all can see just what 
thugs and murderers these JEWS are:

The "stinking of pigshit on his circumcised penis" treasonous 
Jew Boy, who goes by multiple cowardly pseudonyms, Fred Grosby, 
Detax Unmasked, plus many others, has been assigned to Calgary
to do Damage Control by typical Jew disinformation programs for 
the Zionist Jew banksters and the KOSHER NOSTRA Jew thugs who are 
the CANCER of the Planet Earth and the enslavers of the Canadian 
People through, among others, the hoax and fraudulent income tax 
scam.

If you would care to see what the Fred Grosbys are all about, may
I suggest you check out this webpage:

http://globalfire.tv/nj/e2001/politics/putin-exposes-jewish-massmurderers.htm

This fellow is an American Jew who lives in Calgary, and devotes 
much of each week on this NG with his totally false dis-information
webpage. Why would this American be spending so much time attempting
to keep Canadians in economic slavery to the income tax scam - if he 
were other than that which I state above.

If you know of ANY other organizations, other than the Zionist Jew 
Cult, who would benefit from the enslavement of Canadians, the 
destruction of Canadian families and the establishment of a 
Communist type of police state in Canada, not unlike that which 
was established by the Jews under Lenin and Stalin.

Eldon Warman
http://www.detaxcanada.org


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ron_star_diablow_asia_jimmy_suck@yahoo.com (JOE) wrote in message news:...
> banmilk@hotmail.com (Ron) wrote in message news:<436a5d81.0205051026.76557cce@posting.google.com>...
> > "We hold these truths to be self evident..." 
> > 
> > So begins the thunderclap heard round the world as the 
> > 13 colonies determined to apply the TRUTHS, that all 
> > men who would be free have known through all of man's 
> > history, to the formation of a GOVERNMENT that would 
> > have as it's basis, the supremacy of the inheirent and 
> > unalianable rights of the people as endowed by their
> > Creator over man-made GOVERNMENT.
> > 
> > 
> > What real men knew all along, was finally put to paper not only
> > as a formal recognition of self evident TRUTH but as a 
> > founding document for the formation of what GOVERNMENT should be.
> > 
> > Squirmy, JOEY, Browney, and others of their ilk would deny
> > the self evidence of TRUTH. They ask that you blind yourselves
> > to TRUTH and accept what *is* as what should be.
> 
> Ron, please repost any such request. You can't. You are a liar.
> 
> > 
> > Obedience to the usurpation of the ownership of YOUR
> > GOVERNMENT is what they ask of you.
> 
> Ron, please repost any such request. You can't. You are a liar.
> 
> >  
> > 
> > They ask that you ignore what is self evident and follow
> > unquestionly that unlawful agenda.
> 
> Ron, please repost any such request. You can't. You are a liar.
>  
> > 
> > They ask you to ignore and deny forever your rights and 
> > observe, respect, and obey the dictates of a GOVERNMENT
> > you no longer control.
> 
> Ron, please repost any such request. You can't. You are a liar.
> 
> 
> > 
> > Whether you accept that the Protocols of Zion are a carefully 
> > thought out blueprint for the enslavement of all nations and 
> > all men, or whether you accept their explanation that the
> > protocols were simply a concoction by Tsarist secret police,
> > an examination of the self evident TRUTH of the state of the
> > world and it's PEOPLES will show that the coincidence of the 
> > current state of affairs and the agenda of the protocols 
> > is eerily similar. Too similar to be ignored by those who 
> > seek to preserve their inheirent and unalienable rights for
> > themselves and their children.
> 
> Avoid These Tax Protest Scams Like You Would Avoid The Plague
> On a daily basis, we learn about various tax protest scams who will
> only succeed in leading you down a path of destruction. All of them
> perpetuate over the Internet. They run from the utterly absurd to the
> completely ridiculous, from the convicted felons to the merely looney.
> The bottom line is that ALL of the arguments are complete works of
> fiction and none have any validity whatsoever.
> http://www.taxes.com/tax_scams.html

The "stinking of pigshit on his circumcised penis" treasonous 
Jew Boy Joe, assigned to do Damage Control by typical Jew 
disinformation programs for the Zionist Jew banksters and the 
KOSHER NOSTRA Jew thugs who are the CANCER of the Planet Earth 
and the enslavers of the Canadian People through, among others, 
the hoax and fraudulent income tax scam.

If you would care to see what the Stinky Pecker JEW BOY Joes 
are all about, may I suggest you check out this webpage:

http://globalfire.tv/nj/e2001/politics/putin-exposes-jewish-massmurderers.htm

This fellow is an American Jew who devotes much of each week on 
this NG with his totally false dis-information webpage. Why would 
this American be spending so much time attempting to keep Canadians 
in economic slavery to the income tax scam - if he were other than 
that which I state above.

If you know of ANY other organizations, other than the Zionist Jew 
Cult, who would benefit from the enslavement of Canadians, the 
destruction of Canadian families and the establishment of a 
Communist type of police state in Canada, not unlike that which 
was established by the Jews under Lenin and Stalin.

Eldon Warman
http://www.detaxcanada.org


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ron_star_diablow_asia_jimmy_suck@yahoo.com (JOE) wrote in message news:...
> banmilk@hotmail.com (Ron) wrote in message news:<436a5d81.0205250532.381bb8be@posting.google.com>...
> > ron_star_diablow_asia_jimmy_suck@yahoo.com (JOE) wrote in message news:...
> > > majorquantrell@hotmail.com (quantrell) wrote in message news:...
> > > > banmilk@hotmail.com (Ron) wrote in message news:<436a5d81.0205220522.21a7ee10@posting.google.com>...
> > > > > majorquantrell@hotmail.com (quantrell) wrote in message news:...
> > > > > > banmilk@hotmail.com (Ron) wrote in message news:<436a5d81.0205210534.494f22c5@posting.google.com>...
> > > > > > > majorquantrell@hotmail.com (quantrell) wrote in message news:...
> > > > > > > > banmilk@hotmail.com (Ron) wrote in message news:<436a5d81.0205200817.61e3bc17@posting.google.com>...
> > > > > > > > > detax_unmasked@hotmail.com (Detax Unmasked) wrote in message news:<3ce7d44a.2023778@news.his.com>...
> > > > > > > > > > Criswell The Psychic Weatherman  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >How's Thomas Kennedy doing these days?
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > That prompted me to have a look at Kennedy's web site.  Can't find
> > > > > > > > > > Word One about his case.  Appears that, having had his butt whipped in
> > > > > > > > > > court, he's treating the whole experience as if it never happened, and
> > > > > > > > > > hoping nobody will notice.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >  Ron) What did CCRA post on their site concerning their "case" against Ev
> > > > > > > > > Hamlin at Fort St. John, B.C.?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >  You remember Freddy; the case they had to issue a stay of proceedings
> > > > > > > > > on when they couldn't answer to the affidvait filed PRIOR to court
> > > > > > > > > date attesting that Ev Hamblin was NOT an incorporated entity nor a
> > > > > > > > > member of an incorporated entity.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >  Do you think they could be "treating the whole experience as if it
> > > > > > > > > never happened, and hoping nobody will notice."?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Ron,
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > You are a lying little puke, just like Eldon. I have asked you several
> > > > > > > > times to document the facts of the Hamlin case so that it can be fully
> > > > > > > > discussed.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > You have pussied out every time. I suspect you do so, so that you can
> > > > > > > > depict the case in any manor you wish.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > You are a pathological liar.
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > Q
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >  "Manor"?  Feeling a bit feudal to day are we?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >  Prove that I am a pathological liar or retract that statement.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >  The last time a case was presented, YOU insisted on looking the
> > > > > > > matter up yourself. Please do so this time as well.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  Of course you won't.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Q 2) I'm still waiting for you to document the facts of the Hamlin case.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Can't get it done, Ronny? 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > LOL!!!!!!!!!!
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >  Ron) Gee Squirm, last time you asked repeatedly about the outcome of a
> > > > > case you didn't believe anything anyone told you at that time either.
> > > > > 
> > > > >  So, why not research the case yourself or alternately in the immortal
> > > > > words of your very own BOY TOY; "prove the negative."
> > > > 
> > > > Q 3) I asked for documentation, not another de-tax fairy tale.
> > > > 
> > > > You can't produce.
> > > > 
> > > > You are dismissed.
> > > 
> > > Ron has no documentation. He's just another detax liar. These detaxer
> > > con-artists make the detax claims so they must prove them. No one has
> > > to prove the negative.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  On may 06,2002 a lying piece of fascist crap named JOE wrote the
> > following:
> > 
> >  "You are all the same
> > person to me until you can prove the negative."
> > 
> > 
> >  Readers, please review posts from earlier in the month. JOE
> > constantly demands "proof of the negative".... until it works against
> > him and his agenda.
> 
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> 
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> 
> Avoid These Tax Protest Scams Like You Would Avoid The Plague
> On a daily basis, we learn about various tax protest scams who will
> only succeed in leading you down a path of destruction. All of them
> perpetuate over the Internet. They run from the utterly absurd to the
> completely ridiculous, from the convicted felons to the merely looney.
> The bottom line is that ALL of the arguments are complete works of
> fiction and none have any validity whatsoever.
> http://www.taxes.com/tax_scams.html
> > 
>  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > Joe
> > > 
> > > Avoid These Tax Protest Scams Like You Would Avoid The Plague
> > > On a daily basis, we learn about various tax protest scams who will
> > > only succeed in leading you down a path of destruction. All of them
> > > perpetuate over the Internet. They run from the utterly absurd to the
> > > completely ridiculous, from the convicted felons to the merely looney.
> > > The bottom line is that ALL of the arguments are complete works of
> > > fiction and none have any validity whatsoever.
> > > http://www.taxes.com/tax_scams.html

The "stinking of pigshit on his circumcised penis" treasonous 
Jew Boy Joe, assigned to do Damage Control by typical Jew 
disinformation programs for the Zionist Jew banksters and the 
KOSHER NOSTRA Jew thugs who are the CANCER of the Planet Earth 
and the enslavers of the Canadian People through, among others, 
the hoax and fraudulent income tax scam.

If you would care to see what the Stinky Pecker JEW BOY Joes 
are all about, may I suggest you check out this webpage:

http://globalfire.tv/nj/e2001/politics/putin-exposes-jewish-massmurderers.htm

This fellow is an American Jew who devotes much of each week on 
this NG with his totally false dis-information webpage. Why would 
this American be spending so much time attempting to keep Canadians 
in economic slavery to the income tax scam - if he were other than 
that which I state above.

If you know of ANY other organizations, other than the Zionist Jew 
Cult, who would benefit from the enslavement of Canadians, the 
destruction of Canadian families and the establishment of a 
Communist type of police state in Canada, not unlike that which 
was established by the Jews under Lenin and Stalin.

Eldon Warman
http://www.detaxcanada.org


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ron_star_diablow_asia_jimmy_suck@yahoo.com (JOE) wrote in message news:...
> asiasvoren  wrote in message news:...
> > in article B913EC28.5F4E%asiasvoren@shaw.ca, asiasvoren at
> > asiasvoren@shaw.ca wrote on 5/24/02 1:10 PM:
> > 
> > > in article e6a54707.0205231803.13ff06b@posting.google.com, JOE at
> > > ron_star_diablow_asia_jimmy_suck@yahoo.com wrote on 5/23/02 9:03 PM:
> > > 
> > >> banmilk@hotmail.com (Ron) wrote in message
> > >> news:<436a5d81.0205161718.2f00f326@posting.google.com>...
> > >>> ron_star_diablow_asia_jimmy_suck@yahoo.com (JOE) wrote in message
> > >>> news:...
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in article fc16fd74.0205060253.3ae05903@posting.google.com,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quantrell at
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> majorquantrell@hotmail.com wrote on 5/6/02 5:53 AM:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 03,2002 JOEY opened his piehole and
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spewed:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "it is the government that
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decides your status as a person, taxpayer,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> citizen or whatever."
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (end spew)
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >  ------------------------------------------------------------>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >  -
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ontario Government Birth Certificate info page
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.cbs.gov.on.ca/mcbs/english/births.htm
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Registering your child's birth is the first step to giving
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your baby
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a legal identity. Once your baby’s birth is
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> registered,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you will
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> able to apply for a birth certificate.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A birth certificate is a legal document needed to establish
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> legal
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> identity and will be used throughout your child’s life
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to obtain
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> health services, a passport, old age pension and many other
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beneficial
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> services."
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (birth certificate info originally posted by StaR)
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >  ------------------------------------------------------------>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >  -
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ron,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You lie.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is a fact of law that your are a natural person subject to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the rule
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of law,  whether or not you get a driver's license or a birth
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> certificate, or not.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Q, Ron is right about the birth of the legal person which is
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> subject
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the rule of law. Try getting anywhere in law unless you use
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a legal
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entity - you just won't get anywhere.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Q 2) Jimmy, you're just not thinking.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The problem with the theory is that babies born in the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pre-birth
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> certificate(and the adults they grew up to be) where considered
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> natural persons.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So the idea that getting a birth certificate tricks one into
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> becoming
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a natural person is nonsense since the concept of a natural
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pre-dates birth certificates.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What are you trying to cover up here, Raider? It really
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appears
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are following a communistic line on everything you comment on.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> course, we don't expect you to admit that as you also dispute
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the fact
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the 10 planks of the communist manifesto have already
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> woven
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into all North American laws and regulations. So it really
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> matter what your words are, the facts still remain.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jimmy
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Q 2) Oh, please, Jimmy, spare me the conspiracy theories.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This one isn't even very bright. If affording government the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> authority
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is due by law at the same time protecting the rights of
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> individuals
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is communistic, then I am in about as communistic as the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Founding
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fathers.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Q  What rights are you trying to protect, whatever your legal
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> name is? You
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep saying we don't have any rights.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Asia
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Asia, "Ron", star, diablow, jimmy or who ever you are: You said
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (concerning quantrell) : "You keep saying we don't have any
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rights.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can't back up your statement.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Asia is a liar.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> JOE
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Now I will clarify what I mean by the word "you".  When I answer
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> any
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> of the persons that insist on keeping their heads up the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> governments ass, I
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> use the word "you" referring to all of you , not just you
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> personally. So if
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> you personally didn't say it, one of your head butt buddies did.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> You calling me a lair is a joke. I put my legal name on my posts
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> and have
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> stated a few times that I am not any of these other people . They
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> have told
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> you they are not me. JOE, you can't understand that; so why would
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> one
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> believe you understand  what you spout off about. You are a
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> complete idiot .
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Asia
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Asia, "Ron", star, diablow, jimmy or who ever you are: You said
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> (concerning quantrell) : "You keep saying we don't have any rights.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> You can't back up your statement.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Asia, you are a liar.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> JOE
> > >>>>>>>>>>> JOE, YOU WANT TO SAY WE ARE ALL ONE PERSON, SO I CAN ALSO ASSUME
> > >>>>>>>>>>> THAT
> > >>>>>>>>>>> ALL
> > >>>>>>>>>>> THE POST FOR THE GOVERNMENT ARE ONE PERSON WHICH IS YOU. IT HAS BEEN
> > >>>>>>>>>>> POSTED
> > >>>>>>>>>>> ON THIS NG THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY RIGHTS. NOW IF IT WAS ONE OF YOUR
> > >>>>>>>>>>> OTHER
> > >>>>>>>>>>> ALIAS THAT POSTED WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE? YOUR LITTLE BRAIN
> > >>>>>>>>>>> DEAD GROUP
> > >>>>>>>>>>> SAID IT.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Asia
> > >>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>> Who are we, to argue with the JOE -- THE LOOOONNNNNNNG ARM OF THE
> > >>>>>>>>>> GOVERNMENT.
> > >>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>> YES JOE, WE WILL OBEY, YES JOE, WE WILL PAY OUR TAXES, YES JOE, WE DO
> > >>>>>>>>>> NOT HAVE ANY RIGHTS, YES JOE, THE GOVERNMENT OWNS US BODY AND SOUL,
> > >>>>>>>>>> YES JOE, WE WILL DO WHATEVER  YOU TELL US TO.
> > >>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>> YES JOE, YES JOE,YES JOE,YES JOE,YES JOE,YES JOE,YES JOE,YES JOE ..
> > >>>>>>>>>> YOUR WORD IS OUR COMMAND.
> > >>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>> joe
> > >>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>> You side stepped the subject.
> > >>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>> Asia, "Ron", star, diablow, jimmy, dishonest joe, eldon or who ever
> > >>>>>>>>> you
> > >>>>>>>>> are: 
> > >>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>> You said (concerning quantrell) : "You keep saying we don't have any
> > >>>>>>>>> rights.
> > >>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>> You can't back up your statement.
> > >>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>> Asia or who ever you are, you are a liar.
> > >>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>> Let's review:
> > >>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>> 1) Asia, "Ron", star, diablow, jimmy, dishonest joe, eldon or who ever
> > >>>>>>>> you are said (concerning quantrell): "You keep saying we don't have
> > >>>>>>>> any rights.
> > >>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>> 2) You can't back up your statement.
> > >>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>> 3) Asia or who ever you are, you are a liar.
> > >>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>> Fiction JOE, prove your claim(s)or shut up. We're tired of your empty
> > >>>>>>> babble. You usually don't know who you're replying to and you're
> > >>>>>>> always making baseless accusations. Enough is enough. PUT UP OR SHUT
> > >>>>>>> UP!
> > >>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>> Jimmy
> > >>>>>> 
> > >>>>>> Jimmy (a detax con), you must have responded to the wrong person. It
> > >>>>>> is asia that must put up or shut up.
> > >>>>>> 
> > >>>>>> ------------------
> > >>>>>> 
> > >>>>>> 
> > >>>>>> Asia, "Ron", star, diablow, jimmy, dishonest joe, eldon or who ever
> > >>>>>> you are said (concerning quantrell): "You keep saying we don't have
> > >>>>>> any rights.
> > >>>>>> 
> > >>>>>> 2) You can't back up your statement.
> > >>>>>> 
> > >>>>>> 3) Asia or who ever you are, you are a liar.
> > >>>>>> 
> > >>>>>> Joe
> > >>>>> 
> > >>>>> 
> > >>>>> 
> > >>>>> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA!!
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> The laugh of a retard.
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> You have proof of that?
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>>>> 
> > >>>>> JOEY doesn't even know if he's replying to Jimmy, Asia, Eldon, Diablo
> > >>>>> or any one of a number of other people.
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> You are all the same liar to me.
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> That would include Squirmy and Freaky Freddy too?
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>>>> 
> > >>>>> He says we're all the same man/woman but then proceeds to address
> > >>>>> us/me/him/her as separate people.
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> Eldon Warman is who you are.
> > >>>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> Then who is Eldon Warman?
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>>>> Is there a medical term for that particular behavior or have we
> > >>>>> discovered a new medical anomaly in JOEY?
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> "Pathological liar" fits you.
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> Define all instances that would support that assumption.
> > >> 
> > >> Asia, "Ron", star, diablow, jimmy or who ever you are: You said
> > >> (concerning quantrell) : "You keep saying we don't have any rights.
> > >> 
> > >> You can't back up your statement.
> > >> 
> > >> Asia is a liar.
> > >> 
> > >> JOE
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I re-posted below .
> > > 
> > > 
> > >> majorquantrell@hotmail.com (quantrell) wrote in message
> > >> news:...
> > >>> ron_star_diablow_asia_jimmy_suck@yahoo.com (JOE) wrote in message
> > >>> news:...
> > >>>> asiasvoren  wrote in message
> > >>>> news:...
> > >>>> 
>  Sorry Q, it was JOE who said it.
> > >>>>> 
> > >>>>> 
> > >>>>> 
> > >>>>> honestjoeca@email.com>>> ron_star_diablow_asia_jimmy_suck@yahoo.com (JOE)
>  wrote in message
> > >>>>> news:...
> > >>>>> 
> > >>>>> 
> > >>>>>> The Canadian Bill of Rights 1960 and the Universal Charter of Freedoms
> > >>>>>>> and Rights, 1948 , is absurd?  We do not have any rights at all?
> > >>>>>> 
> > >>>>> 
> > > the statement above is you JOE, YOU MADE IT
> > > 
> > > 
> > >>>>> 
>  
> > >>>>> So what!  It means nothing to me. You are still a dumb fuk detax con
> > >>>>> who will never post a basis in law for Eldon silly material.
> > >>>>> 
> > >>>>> Joe
> > >>>>> 
> > > 
> > > Here JOE, you state that human rights means nothing to you
> > > 
> > >>>>> 
> > >>>>> Asia attempts to appeal to emotion but cannot post a basis in law for
> > >>>>> any detax material.
> > >>>>> 
> > > Here JOE, YOU STATE that human rights has no basis in law
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >>>>> DETAX CON-ARTISTS might accurately be described as serial liars,
> > >>>>> because they repeatedly try to induce others to believe in the truth
> > >>>>> of propositions or in the validity of arguments that they know to be
> > >>>>> false.
> > >>>>> 
> > > Here you are telling us that  the  U.N.  Human Rights Act is false.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >>>>> DETAX CON-ARTISTS know that Bogus detax information is legal under our
> > >>>>> Freedom of Speech unless they cross the line into intent to defraud.
> > >>>>> But they cannot redescribe a lie as something else.
> > >>>>> 
> > > AGAIN , you are stating that the U.N. Human Rights Act is false and a
> > > lie.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >>>>> To help educate my TRAILER TRASH DETAX CON ARTIST pal "Asia"; I will
> > >>>>> explain to he-she-it that my "premise" is that he-she-it is a "DETAX
> > >>>>> CON-ARTIST."
> > >>>>> 
> > > here you call me a con-artist  for posting the U.N. HUMAN RIGHTS ACT.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----
> > >>>>> ( Joe responding to the UD OF HUMAN RIGHTS)
> > >>>> 
>  
> > >>>>> 
> > >>>>> 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >>>>> 
> > >>>>> Asia
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> Very weak! Your post is an act of desparation.
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> Asia, "Ron", star, diablow, jimmy, eldon, honestjoe or who ever you
> > >>>> are: You said (concerning quantrell) : "You keep saying we don't have
> > >>>> any rights.
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> You can't back up your statement.
> > >>>> 
> > > 
> > > Here proves to me you can't read or write. You just parrot Fred and the
> > > others in your little group.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >>>> Asia is a liar.
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> JOE
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> Asia,
> > >>> 
> > >>> You said, "You [Q] keep saying we don't have any rights.", when in
> > >>> fact I have said the exact opposite.
> > >>> 
> > >>> You can't defend your statement, and you don't have the guts to say
> > >>> you were wrong.
> > >>> 
> > >>> Your word is useless.
> > >>> 
> > >>> Q
> > >> 
> > > Here Q shows me he can't read also, seeing that I posted " sorry Q, it
> > > was JOE THAT SAID IT"  and pasted the post where JOE said.
> > > 
> > > Asia
> > >> 
> > 
> >    IT'S FUNNY YOU DIDN'T USE THIS POST TO CALL ME A LIAR WHEN IT SHOWS YOU
> > JOE WERE THE ONE TO SAY IT NOT Q.
> 
> You can't sidestep the subject:
> 
>  Asia, "Ron", star, diablow, jimmy, eldon, honestjoe or who ever you
>  are: You said (concerning quantrell) : "You keep saying we don't have
> any rights.
>  You can't back up your statement. 
> 
> Repost the statements by Quantrell that say "we don't have any
> rights."
> 
> You can't because you are a liar.
> 
> Asia is a liar.
> 
> Joe 
> 
> Avoid These Tax Protest Scams Like You Would Avoid The Plague
> On a daily basis, we learn about various tax protest scams who will
> only succeed in leading you down a path of destruction. All of them
> perpetuate over the Internet. They run from the utterly absurd to the
> completely ridiculous, from the convicted felons to the merely looney.
> The bottom line is that ALL of the arguments are complete works of
> fiction and none have any validity whatsoever.
> http://www.taxes.com/tax_scams.html
> 
> 
>The "stinking of pigshit on his circumcised penis" treasonous 
Jew Boy Joe, assigned to do Damage Control by typical Jew 
disinformation programs for the Zionist Jew banksters and the 
KOSHER NOSTRA Jew thugs who are the CANCER of the Planet Earth 
and the enslavers of the Canadian People through, among others, 
the hoax and fraudulent income tax scam.

If you would care to see what the Stinky Pecker JEW BOY Joes 
are all about, may I suggest you check out this webpage:

http://globalfire.tv/nj/e2001/politics/putin-exposes-jewish-massmurderers.htm

This fellow is an American Jew who devotes much of each week on 
this NG with his totally false dis-information webpage. Why would 
this American be spending so much time attempting to keep Canadians 
in economic slavery to the income tax scam - if he were other than 
that which I state above.

If you know of ANY other organizations, other than the Zionist Jew 
Cult, who would benefit from the enslavement of Canadians, the 
destruction of Canadian families and the establishment of a 
Communist type of police state in Canada, not unlike that which 
was established by the Jews under Lenin and Stalin.

Eldon Warman
http://www.detaxcanada.org


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ron_star_diablow_asia_jimmy_suck@yahoo.com (JOE) wrote in message news:...
> banmilk@hotmail.com (Ron) wrote in message news:<436a5d81.0205051026.76557cce@posting.google.com>...
> > "We hold these truths to be self evident..." 
> > 
> > So begins the thunderclap heard round the world as the 
> > 13 colonies determined to apply the TRUTHS, that all 
> > men who would be free have known through all of man's 
> > history, to the formation of a GOVERNMENT that would 
> > have as it's basis, the supremacy of the inheirent and 
> > unalianable rights of the people as endowed by their
> > Creator over man-made GOVERNMENT.
> > 
> > 
> > What real men knew all along, was finally put to paper not only
> > as a formal recognition of self evident TRUTH but as a 
> > founding document for the formation of what GOVERNMENT should be.
> > 
> > Squirmy, JOEY, Browney, and others of their ilk would deny
> > the self evidence of TRUTH. They ask that you blind yourselves
> > to TRUTH and accept what *is* as what should be.
> 
> Ron, please repost any such request. You can't. You are a liar.
> 
> > 
> > Obedience to the usurpation of the ownership of YOUR
> > GOVERNMENT is what they ask of you.
> 
> Ron, please repost any such request. You can't. You are a liar.
> 
> >  
> > 
> > They ask that you ignore what is self evident and follow
> > unquestionly that unlawful agenda.
> 
> Ron, please repost any such request. You can't. You are a liar.
>  
> > 
> > They ask you to ignore and deny forever your rights and 
> > observe, respect, and obey the dictates of a GOVERNMENT
> > you no longer control.
> 
> Ron, please repost any such request. You can't. You are a liar.
> 
> 
> > 
> > Whether you accept that the Protocols of Zion are a carefully 
> > thought out blueprint for the enslavement of all nations and 
> > all men, or whether you accept their explanation that the
> > protocols were simply a concoction by Tsarist secret police,
> > an examination of the self evident TRUTH of the state of the
> > world and it's PEOPLES will show that the coincidence of the 
> > current state of affairs and the agenda of the protocols 
> > is eerily similar. Too similar to be ignored by those who 
> > seek to preserve their inheirent and unalienable rights for
> > themselves and their children.
> 
> Avoid These Tax Protest Scams Like You Would Avoid The Plague
> On a daily basis, we learn about various tax protest scams who will
> only succeed in leading you down a path of destruction. All of them
> perpetuate over the Internet. They run from the utterly absurd to the
> completely ridiculous, from the convicted felons to the merely looney.
> The bottom line is that ALL of the arguments are complete works of
> fiction and none have any validity whatsoever.
> http://www.taxes.com/tax_scams.html

The "stinking of pigshit on his circumcised penis" treasonous 
Jew Boy Joe, assigned to do Damage Control by typical Jew 
disinformation programs for the Zionist Jew banksters and the 
KOSHER NOSTRA Jew thugs who are the CANCER of the Planet Earth 
and the enslavers of the Canadian People through, among others, 
the hoax and fraudulent income tax scam.

If you would care to see what the Stinky Pecker JEW BOY Joes 
are all about, may I suggest you check out this webpage:

http://globalfire.tv/nj/e2001/politics/putin-exposes-jewish-massmurderers.htm

This fellow is an American Jew who devotes much of each week on 
this NG with his totally false dis-information webpage. Why would 
this American be spending so much time attempting to keep Canadians 
in economic slavery to the income tax scam - if he were other than 
that which I state above.

If you know of ANY other organizations, other than the Zionist Jew 
Cult, who would benefit from the enslavement of Canadians, the 
destruction of Canadian families and the establishment of a 
Communist type of police state in Canada, not unlike that which 
was established by the Jews under Lenin and Stalin.

Eldon Warman
http://www.detaxcanada.org


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ron_star_diablow_asia_jimmy_suck@yahoo.com (JOE) wrote in message news:...
> banmilk@hotmail.com (Ron) wrote in message news:<436a5d81.0205211448.482698c3@posting.google.com>...
> > majorquantrell@hotmail.com (quantrell) wrote in message news:...
> > > banmilk@hotmail.com (Ron) wrote in message news:<436a5d81.0205210529.7b4244f6@posting.google.com>...
> > > > majorquantrell@hotmail.com (quantrell) wrote in message news:...
> > > > > egwarman@outgun.com (EG Warman) wrote in message news:<2005a7f1.0205200754.782d6c20@posting.google.com>...
> > > > > > How many people who read this NG believe that Freddie 
> > > > > > (posting under several fake names), and Rayder,
> > > > > > (posting under several fake names) have any place
> > > > > > on this NG? 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > As you can see by going back through the threads, they 
> > > > > > offer NOTHING in their "damage control" attempts to defend 
> > > > > > the hoax income tax scam that exists in Canada.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Add your opinions about these American scumbags to this 
> > > > > > thread.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Eldon Warman
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Eldon,
> > > > > 
> > > > > You are an ineffectual loser who uses psychotic bravado to masquerade
> > > > > as a visionary law giver.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I would tell you to fuck off, but you are so fucked in the head, and
> > > > > so laughably crazy that your leaving would deprive us of
> > > > > entertainment.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Q
> > > > 
> > > > Ron) Another instance of your criminally insane mind Raider.
> > > > 
> > > >  You imply that if you ordered someone to "eff off" they would do so.
> > > > 
> > > >  My,my we are full of ourselves today aren't we?
> > > 
> > > Ron,
> > > 
> > > Face facts, your psycho cult leader has run out of ammo is has left
> > > you holding the bag.
> > > 
> > > LOL!!!!!!!
> > > 
> > > Q
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   I don't whether to laugh at your stupidity or cry over it.
> 
> banmilk@hotmail.com (Ron) wrote in message news:<436a5d81.0205051026.76557cce@posting.google.com>...
> > "We hold these truths to be self evident..." 
> > 
> > So begins the thunderclap heard round the world as the 
> > 13 colonies determined to apply the TRUTHS, that all 
> > men who would be free have known through all of man's 
> > history, to the formation of a GOVERNMENT that would 
> > have as it's basis, the supremacy of the inheirent and 
> > unalianable rights of the people as endowed by their
> > Creator over man-made GOVERNMENT.
> > 
> > 
> > What real men knew all along, was finally put to paper not only
> > as a formal recognition of self evident TRUTH but as a 
> > founding document for the formation of what GOVERNMENT should be.
> > 
> > Squirmy, JOEY, Browney, and others of their ilk would deny
> > the self evidence of TRUTH. They ask that you blind yourselves
> > to TRUTH and accept what *is* as what should be.
> 
> Ron, please repost any such request. You can't. You are a liar.
> 
> > 
> > Obedience to the usurpation of the ownership of YOUR
> > GOVERNMENT is what they ask of you.
> 
> Ron, please repost any such request. You can't. You are a liar.
> 
> >  
> > 
> > They ask that you ignore what is self evident and follow
> > unquestionly that unlawful agenda.
> 
> Ron, please repost any such request. You can't. You are a liar.
>  
> > 
> > They ask you to ignore and deny forever your rights and 
> > observe, respect, and obey the dictates of a GOVERNMENT
> > you no longer control.
> 
> Ron, please repost any such request. You can't. You are a liar.
> 
> 
> > 
> > Whether you accept that the Protocols of Zion are a carefully 
> > thought out blueprint for the enslavement of all nations and 
> > all men, or whether you accept their explanation that the
> > protocols were simply a concoction by Tsarist secret police,
> > an examination of the self evident TRUTH of the state of the
> > world and it's PEOPLES will show that the coincidence of the 
> > current state of affairs and the agenda of the protocols 
> > is eerily similar. Too similar to be ignored by those who 
> > seek to preserve their inheirent and unalienable rights for
> > themselves and their children.
> 
> Avoid These Tax Protest Scams Like You Would Avoid The Plague
> On a daily basis, we learn about various tax protest scams who will
> only succeed in leading you down a path of destruction. All of them
> perpetuate over the Internet. They run from the utterly absurd to the
> completely ridiculous, from the convicted felons to the merely looney.
> The bottom line is that ALL of the arguments are complete works of
> fiction and none have any validity whatsoever.
> http://www.taxes.com/tax_scams.html

The "stinking of pigshit on his circumcised penis" treasonous 
Jew Boy Joe, assigned to do Damage Control by typical Jew 
disinformation programs for the Zionist Jew banksters and the 
KOSHER NOSTRA Jew thugs who are the CANCER of the Planet Earth 
and the enslavers of the Canadian People through, among others, 
the hoax and fraudulent income tax scam.

If you would care to see what the Stinky Pecker JEW BOY Joes 
are all about, may I suggest you check out this webpage:

http://globalfire.tv/nj/e2001/politics/putin-exposes-jewish-massmurderers.htm

This fellow is an American Jew who devotes much of each week on 
this NG with his totally false dis-information webpage. Why would 
this American be spending so much time attempting to keep Canadians 
in economic slavery to the income tax scam - if he were other than 
that which I state above.

If you know of ANY other organizations, other than the Zionist Jew 
Cult, who would benefit from the enslavement of Canadians, the 
destruction of Canadian families and the establishment of a 
Communist type of police state in Canada, not unlike that which 
was established by the Jews under Lenin and Stalin.

Eldon Warman
http://www.detaxcanada.org


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ron_star_diablow_asia_jimmy_suck@yahoo.com (JOE) wrote in message news:...
> banmilk@hotmail.com (Ron) wrote in message news:<436a5d81.0205220738.213c9921@posting.google.com>...
> > majorquantrell@hotmail.com (quantrell) wrote in message news:...
> > > banmilk@hotmail.com (Ron) wrote in message news:<436a5d81.0205210524.50eb33b5@posting.google.com>...
> > > > majorquantrell@hotmail.com (quantrell) wrote in message news:...
> > > > > banmilk@hotmail.com (Ron) wrote in message news:<436a5d81.0205200828.4561b902@posting.google.com>...
> > > > > > I want a point by point rebuttal on every issue raised by Eldon Warman
> > > > > > at his site http://www.detaxcanada.org .
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >  I want to hear law, fact, or mixed law and fact using authoritive
> > > > > > proof as to why the GOVERNMENT OF CANADA can lawfully impose a tax on
> > > > > > INCOME upon peoples who don't have INCOME and over whom the PROVINCES
> > > > > > have jurisdiction in the matter of direct taxation.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >  Get with it, you CCRA plants and damage control freaks.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >  You have much research to do.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >  And while you are at it, perhaps you could tell us why no one from
> > > > > > CCRA ever posts to this group rebutting the information being
> > > > > > presented here.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Ron,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Temper, temper.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I don't think that anyone has any intention of refuting every
> > > > > pointless fallacy crazy Eldon has developed over the years.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Considering the fact that our resident nut case can come up with bogus
> > > > > theories as fast as they can be debunked, your challenge is a ruse.
> > > > > 
> > > > > And considering that the detaxers here, and you in particular, refuse
> > > > > to accept the demonstrable refutations of the core ideas of his
> > > > > theories your challenge is a childish game.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Oh, and Ron you are going to have to make up your mind as to whether
> > > > > we are CCRA agents or not. Sometimes you say we are. Now you say we
> > > > > are not.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Q
>  
> > > > Ron) You've never refuted anything with any authority Raider and as you
> > > > point out you never will. [snip]
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Q) Just last week Eldon's lame theory regarding the Magna Carta's
> > > supposed detaxing provisions was shot down in flames. You refused to
> > > accept that reality then and now lie to us in saying that such a thing
> > > never happened.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  Oh, really Squirm? I guess I missed that post.
> > 
> >  How about re-posting it?
> > 
> >  You're not going to post something about Henry II imposing scutage on
> > all knights' fees (fiefs) in 1159 and then tell us it only took "a
> > scant 18 years" before anyone got around to recording it as tax are
> > you?
> > 
> >  You're not going to imply that Henry II was the first to collect
> > scutage are you?
> > 
> >  You're not going to imply that scutage was first introduced as a tax
> > when in fact it was originally a knight's way of making a payment to
> > his liege lord so the lord could hire someone to take the knight's
> > place in an upcoming battle when for any of a million reasons the
> > knight could not discharge his military obligation, are you?
> 
> Ron the Con is out of ammo. He was shooting blanks anyway.
>  
> Ron, if you want a reBUTTal; try a brisk game of butt darts with your
> daddy Elden.
> 
> Joe
> 
> Avoid These Tax Protest Scams Like You Would Avoid The Plague
> On a daily basis, we learn about various tax protest scams who will
> only succeed in leading you down a path of destruction. All of them
> perpetuate over the Internet. They run from the utterly absurd to the
> completely ridiculous, from the convicted felons to the merely looney.
> The bottom line is that ALL of the arguments are complete works of
> fiction and none have any validity whatsoever.
> http://www.taxes.com/tax_scams.html

The "stinking of pigshit on his circumcised penis" treasonous 
Jew Boy Joe, assigned to do Damage Control by typical Jew 
disinformation programs for the Zionist Jew banksters and the 
KOSHER NOSTRA Jew thugs who are the CANCER of the Planet Earth 
and the enslavers of the Canadian People through, among others, 
the hoax and fraudulent income tax scam.

If you would care to see what the Stinky Pecker JEW BOY Joes 
are all about, may I suggest you check out this webpage:

http://globalfire.tv/nj/e2001/politics/putin-exposes-jewish-massmurderers.htm

This fellow is an American Jew who devotes much of each week on 
this NG with his totally false dis-information webpage. Why would 
this American be spending so much time attempting to keep Canadians 
in economic slavery to the income tax scam - if he were other than 
that which I state above.

If you know of ANY other organizations, other than the Zionist Jew 
Cult, who would benefit from the enslavement of Canadians, the 
destruction of Canadian families and the establishment of a 
Communist type of police state in Canada, not unlike that which 
was established by the Jews under Lenin and Stalin.

Eldon Warman
http://www.detaxcanada.org


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From: egwarman@outgun.com (EG Warman)
Newsgroups: can.taxes
Subject: Re: CANADA: A CORPORATE UNIT - A COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISE
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StaR_x@kissmyass.com (StaR) wrote in message news:<3cf10521.81348534@nntp>...
> StaR:
> 
> Hello everyone...long time no chat eh! (Sorry, I've been quite busy at
> work) 
> 
> I think there is confusion here as to the proper application of the
> terms..."officers", "governors", "charters", "letters patent",
> "citizens", "administrators", etc...etc..etc...
> 
> All of these terms are associated with the term CORPORATION.
> 
> That's right, you people seem to forget that we are dealing with a
> BODY CORPORATE, the "Government of Canada", and that this CORPORATION
> was set up for "the honor and increase of the revenues of the Crowne",
> a King's COMMERCIAL "adventure or enterprise" if you will.
> 
> And make no mistake, the "GOVERNMENT of CANADA" is a CORPORATE UNIT.
> It is a CORPORATION. It is a CORPORATE INSTITUTION. It is a
> CORPORATION for the PURPOSE of GOVERNMENT which can also be called a
> BODY CORPORATE. It is a "society" having the capacity of transacting
> BUSINESS as an INDIVIDUAL - C O M M E R C E .
> 
Lots of good stuff here StaR. Thanks for all the research.

Something we have to consider, though, is the distinct possibility 
that the Canadian governments - from Fed to county and town, is 
an impostor incorporation (body politic).

Queen Victoria installed the Governor of Canada as a "corporation
sole" wherein the "eminent domain - right to rule" resided. It 
was not established in a piece of land separate from the Provinces
- a federal territory. The Canadian Parliament, half elected (House
of Commons), half appointed (Senate) were ancillary to the 
corporation sole of the Governor General. Parliament was not
(I believe) an independent corporation. 

Therefore, with the withdrawal of the British Governor General
in 1931, there was no legislative and executive authority to
incorporate itself, and the father of all corporations since about 
600 AD - the Pope, did not incorporate Parliament. The Crown of
England did not, and could not incorporate the Canadian Parliament
after 1931.

Further, since the Statutes Revision Act BR 1893 revoked section
2 of the BNA Act - which was the succession rights of British 
Monarchy over Canada after the death of Victoria - which happened 
in 1899, any incorporation of the Canadian governments at any
level after that date by a British Monarch would be null and void 
for want of proper authority to incorporate anything in Canada.

Eldon Warman
http://www.detaxcanada.org


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detax_unmasked@hotmail.com (Detax Unmasked) wrote in message news:<3cee9a54.20912521@news.his.com>...
> http://www.telusplanet.net/public/grosby/detax_unmasked/
> 
> Learn about Eldon Warman's definitions of "person",
> "resident", and "reside".
> 
> Learn about tactics Wldon Warman and his detax acolytes use to
> prove the impossible.
> 
> Learn about Eldon Warman's propensity to dishonestly quote
> what others have written.
> 
> Learn about how detax followers behave toward those who
> disagree with them.
> 
> Learn about Eldon Warman's anti-semitic bigotry.
> 
> Learn about the consequences of following Warman's detax program.
> 
> Read the material.  Decide for yourself.
> 
> http://www.telusplanet.net/public/grosby/detax_unmasked/
> 
> 
> ====
> 
> Learn the facts about Eldon Warman and Detax Canada at:
> http://www.telusplanet.net/public/grosby/detax_unmasked/

Worth repeating, as we have these other JEW JUNK chiming
in to help their KOSHER buddy. I'm sure all can see just what 
thugs and murderers these JEWS are:

The "stinking of pigshit on his circumcised penis" treasonous 
Jew Boy, who goes by multiple cowardly pseudonyms, Fred Grosby, 
Detax Unmasked, plus many others, has been assigned to Calgary
to do Damage Control by typical Jew disinformation programs for 
the Zionist Jew banksters and the KOSHER NOSTRA Jew thugs who are 
the CANCER of the Planet Earth and the enslavers of the Canadian 
People through, among others, the hoax and fraudulent income tax 
scam.

If you would care to see what the Fred Grosbys are all about, may
I suggest you check out this webpage:

http://globalfire.tv/nj/e2001/politics/putin-exposes-jewish-massmurderers.htm

This fellow is an American Jew who lives in Calgary, and devotes 
much of each week on this NG with his totally false dis-information
webpage. Why would this American be spending so much time attempting
to keep Canadians in economic slavery to the income tax scam - if he 
were other than that which I state above.

If you know of ANY other organizations, other than the Zionist Jew 
Cult, who would benefit from the enslavement of Canadians, the 
destruction of Canadian families and the establishment of a 
Communist type of police state in Canada, not unlike that which 
was established by the Jews under Lenin and Stalin.

Eldon Warman
http://www.detaxcanada.org


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Brian Rookard  wrote in message news:<3CEEDA0A.16F95FF7@earthlink.net>...
> EG Warman wrote:
> 
> > The income tax scam is a KOSHER NOSTRA scheme to deprive you
> > of life and property. It is a program implemented and defended
> > by Zionist Jews.
> >
> > The income tax is a scheme whereby your status is changed from
> > freeman to that of a servant and slave to the state.
> 
> Wrong.  Part of Eldon's claims is that a freeman is converted to a
> "person" who is a slave.  However, the U.S. Supreme Court clearly
> stated:
> 
> "It is a fundamental principle of the common law of England, that the
> term freemen of the kingdom, includes 'all persons,' ecclesiastical and
> temporal, incorporate, politique or natural; it is a part of their magna
> charta (2 Inst. 4), and is incorporated into our institutions" --
> Proprietors of Charles River Bridge v. Proprietors of the Warren Bridge
> and others, 36 U.S. 420 (1837)
> 
> Thus, the term "freemen" in England included "all persons."  Freemen ARE
> persons.
> 
So???? A "freeman" was a freed slave or indentured servant given 
special privilege, similiar in status to the Roman "citizen" :- 

"""Citizen. In the Roman government, seems to have designated a person 
who had the freedom of the city, and the right to exercise all 
political and civil privileges of the government. One who owes to 
government allegiance, service, and money by way of taxation, and 
to whom the government, in turn, grants and guarantees liberty of 
person and of conscience, the right of acquiring and possessing 
property, of marriage and the social relations, of suit and of 
defense, and security in person, estate, and reputation. Amy
v. Smith, 1 Litt. *312 (Ky. 1822). Citizenship implies residence 
with intention of remaining permanently at the particular place. 
Union Hotel Co. v. Hersee, 79 N.Y. 461 (1880). See Inhabitant; 
Resident. A DICTIONARY OF LAW 1893"""

Maybe, I should have said "free man" or "full liability man"
or "Son of God" or "free will man". 

Only a coniving Jew, such as you JEW Damage Control Goons 
would knitpick on such expressions when it comes to someone
questioning your ZIONIST JEW Bankster masters schemes to mass 
murder Canadians by the slow strangulation from your fraud 
income tax.

> Of course, Eldon's misunderstanding of the law could be why every court
> that has heard his argument has rejected it as silly.

Another prime example of a JEW vomiting his pig shit slime!

Eldon Warman
http://www.detaxcanada.org


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cx172@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Elat Lerner) wrote in message news:...
> Progressive tax system a potent equalization tool
> By BRUCE LITTLE
> Monday, May 20, 2002 Ð Print Edition, Page B7
> 
>  When the federal government announced big personal income tax cuts in the
>  fall of 2000 -- just before calling an election -- there was plenty of talk
>  about who would benefit.
> 
>  The main answer was that high-income earners would be the biggest
>  winners. No surprise there: They pay most of the taxes in the first place, so
>  they get the most from tax cuts.
> 
>  But there's another answer as well. Rich provinces also benefit
>  disproportionately for the same reason: They pay a disproportionate share
>  of income taxes in the first place.
> 
>  That, in turn, raises a seldom-asked question: Did the tax cuts increase or
>  decrease regional disparities in after-tax income?
> 
>  It turns out they did not. An Alberta-style single-rate tax, of the kind
>  promised briefly by the Canadian Alliance, would have favoured the richer
>  provinces. But the Liberals, through Finance Minister Paul Martin's 2000
>  mini-budget, created a fourth tax bracket that made the tax system a bit
>  more progressive than it had been, progressive meaning that Canadians'
>  income is taxed at progressively higher rates as they go up the income
>  scale.
> 
>  In the course of researching the issue, however, two tax experts -- Maxime
>  Fougre of Human Resources Development Canada and G.C. Ruggeri of the
>  University of New Brunswick -- turned up a fascinating profile of how the
>  residents of different provinces contribute to Ottawa's revenue.
> 
>  Their study was published late last year by the Canadian Tax Foundation in
>  its Canadian Tax Journal.
> 
>  You might not have guessed, for example, that only two provinces
>  contribute more than their share of the population to the federal treasury.
> 
>  Knowing that, you'd easily guess that the two were Ontario, whose 38 per
>  cent of Canadians paid 46 per cent of all the personal taxes collected by
>  Ottawa in 2000, and Alberta, whose 10 per cent of the population accounted
>  for 12 per cent of personal tax revenues.
> 
>  You might find British Columbia's absence surprising, though perhaps not in
>  hindsight, since it was revealed earlier this year that B.C. had become
>  eligible for federal equalization payments. That means it has slipped into the
>  ranks of the have-not provinces, joining the seven that have been there
>  from the beginning.
> 
>  With 13.3 per cent of the population, British Columbians accounted for 12.9
>  per cent of Canadian taxable income and paid 13 per cent of the personal
>  income taxes that Ottawa collected. At the time this analysis was published,
>  these figures might have looked like an anomaly. In retrospect, they were
>  probably a tip-off that the province had slid across the line to have-not
>  status.
> 
>  The provincial differences on this score are evident from the extremes.
>  Ontario and Alberta together had 48 per cent of Canada's population in
>  2000, and accounted for 53 per cent of all taxable income, but they
>  contributed almost 58 per cent of the personal taxes paid.
> 
>  In effect, their income share was 10 per cent higher than their population
>  share, which reflects the higher average incomes in both provinces, while
>  their taxes-paid share was 9 per cent higher than their income share, which
>  reflects the progressivity of the tax system. In tandem, their share of
>  personal taxes was 20 per cent higher than their population share.
> 
>  If you flip to the two poorest provinces, you see a mirror image of the same
>  phenomenon. Newfoundland and Prince Edward Island had 2.2 per cent of the
>  population, but only 1.5 per cent of the taxable income and paid 1.2 per cent
>  of the personal taxes. So their income share was only 68 per cent that of
>  their population share and their share of taxes was only 81 per cent of their
>  income share. Combine the two effects and you find that their tax share
>  was only 55 per cent of their population share.
> 
>  For the eight have-not provinces as a group, the figures simply fill the gap
>  between the results for Ontario and Alberta and the 100-per-cent share for
>  the country as a whole. The 52 per cent of Canadians in the have-not
>  provinces accounted for 47 per cent of the taxable income and paid 42 per
>  cent of the taxes.
> 
>  These differences show up vividly in another comparison. In Newfoundland
>  and PEI, about 50 per cent of taxable income was received by people in the
>  lowest tax bracket and only 12 per cent by those in the highest bracket. In
>  Ontario and Alberta, those in the lowest bracket accounted for only 27 per
>  cent of taxable income, while those in the top bracket accounted for 33 per
>  cent of income. Those are huge differences.
> 
>  Nationally, the comparable figures are 31 per cent for the bottom bracket
>  and 28 per cent for the top one.
> 
>  As a vehicle for transferring money from richer to poorer provinces,
>  equalization payments are very visible. But as this research demonstrates,
>  the invisible workings of a personal income tax system with progressive tax
>  rates constitute a powerful tool for moving money around the country. 
>  blittle@globeandmail.ca
> 
> Copyright © 2002 Bell Globemedia Interactive Inc. All Rights Reserved. 
> 
> http://www.GlobeAndMail.CA/servlet/GIS.Servlets.HTMLTemplate?

What a bunch of Jew inspired Communist PIG SHIT! 

Lets see what the Jew Communists did to Russia in the 1920's 
and 1930's to EQUALIZE the conditions in Russia and the Ukraine:

http://globalfire.tv/nj/e2001/politics/putin-exposes-jewish-massmurderers.htm

56 Million Dead

The Bolshevik's cemetery ... the greatest mass murder in the history 
of mankind.
Israel Nachrichten (Israel News), September 10,1992

"Lazar Kaganovich's rage aimed at first on the class enemy, the 
kulaks (peasants). He succeeded to exterminate the entire farming 
and peasant population in the Soviet Union"
Der Spiegel, 35/1991, page 151

Lazar Kaganovich, Stalin's Jew for implementing the Holocaust on 
Russia's and the Ukraine's rural population. He planned and organised 
a genocide on about twenty million peasants. He is the biggest 
individual mass murder in the history of mankind.

Communism is the brainchild of the son of a Rabbi, Moses Mordecai 
Marx Levi, AKA: Karl Marx. It is the antithesis of Anglo-Saxon
Common Law. That is why the Jews posting here hate the idea of
individual and unalienable rights, and the concept of the People
being superior to a fictional entity called "government".

Eldon Warman
http://www.detaxcanada.org


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StaR_x@kissmyass.com (StaR) wrote...
> >> 
> >> And make no mistake, the "GOVERNMENT of CANADA" is a CORPORATE UNIT.
> >> It is a CORPORATION. It is a CORPORATE INSTITUTION. It is a
> >> CORPORATION for the PURPOSE of GOVERNMENT which can also be called a
> >> BODY CORPORATE. It is a "society" having the capacity of transacting
> >> BUSINESS as an INDIVIDUAL - C O M M E R C E .
> >> 
(Eldon)> >Lots of good stuff here StaR. Thanks for all the research.
> >
> >Something we have to consider, though, is the distinct possibility 
> >that the Canadian governments - from Fed to county and town, is 
> >an impostor incorporation (body politic).
> >
> >Queen Victoria installed the Governor of Canada as a "corporation
> >sole" wherein the "eminent domain - right to rule" resided. It 
> >was not established in a piece of land separate from the Provinces
> >- a federal territory. The Canadian Parliament, half elected (House
> >of Commons), half appointed (Senate) were ancillary to the 
> >corporation sole of the Governor General. Parliament was not
> >(I believe) an independent corporation. 
> 
(StaR)> Hi Eldon, how are you. A few comments if I may....
> 
> The "Parliament of Canada" was certainly set up as a "corporation"
> along with its "officers" and "laws" for self management. It was the
> KING of ENGLAND who was the GRANTOR of its INCORPORATION. The
> "parliament of Canada" was simply a "civil CORPORATION" for the
> purpose of GOVERNMENT.
> 
> "Canada" was and still is a CONSILIDATION and RESTRUCTURING of the sub
> corporations, the "northern provinces".
> 
I would still question whether that is correct. Elmer Knutson's research
showed that Parliament was a subdivision of the Governor General's 
corporation sole, not a corporation of equal status. The BNA Act
set up the Governor General as the government of Canada - and, the
Lt. Governors as the government of the Provinces.

Example: General Motors Corporation is the parent or primary corporation.
Buick Division is a sub-corporation under General Motors. If General
Motors Corp. ceased to exist, so would the Buick Division. Buick could
them possibly re-incorporate; however, that situation of the Parliament
of Canada re-incorporating cannot legitimately have happened, as 
no incorporating authority exists in Canada, and Parliament cannot 
incorporate itself. No English king has reigned legitimately over Canada
since Victoria, and Victoria established the colony of Canada. So, what
"king" incorporated the Canadian Parliament? The English monarch could 
not, for instance, incorporate a company in Turkey.

I still believe that the Canadian governments, Fed down to village,
are illigitimate, impostors and frauds. Not until there is a congress
(jury) of the People assembled will there be such a legitimate body
to establish a government at any level. And, these governments do not,
and should not, be "corporations" - a foreign (Roman) law organization
hostile to the Law of God, as expressed in the Anglo-Saxon Common Law.
All governing bodies should be congresses (juries) of full liability
men and women who know and understand the law - the negative Golden
Rule.

Eldon Warman
http://www.detaxcanada.org/repub1.htm


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"Don"  wrote in message news:...
> "EG Warman"  wrote in message
> news:2005a7f1.0205261440.6a7d9570@posting.google.com...
> > ron_star_diablow_asia_jimmy_suck@yahoo.com (JOE) wrote in message
>  news:...
> > > banmilk@hotmail.com (Ron) wrote in message
>  news:<436a5d81.0205051026.76557cce@posting.google.com>...
> > > > "We hold these truths to be self evident..."
> > > >
> > > > So begins the thunderclap heard round the world as the
> > > > 13 colonies determined to apply the TRUTHS, that all
> > > > men who would be free have known through all of man's
> > > > history, to the formation of a GOVERNMENT that would
> > > > have as it's basis, the supremacy of the inheirent and
> > > > unalianable rights of the people as endowed by their
> > > > Creator over man-made GOVERNMENT.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What real men knew all along, was finally put to paper not only
> > > > as a formal recognition of self evident TRUTH but as a
> > > > founding document for the formation of what GOVERNMENT should be.
> > > >
> > > > Squirmy, JOEY, Browney, and others of their ilk would deny
> > > > the self evidence of TRUTH. They ask that you blind yourselves
> > > > to TRUTH and accept what *is* as what should be.
> > >
> > > Ron, please repost any such request. You can't. You are a liar.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Obedience to the usurpation of the ownership of YOUR
> > > > GOVERNMENT is what they ask of you.
> > >
> > > Ron, please repost any such request. You can't. You are a liar.
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > They ask that you ignore what is self evident and follow
> > > > unquestionly that unlawful agenda.
> > >
> > > Ron, please repost any such request. You can't. You are a liar.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > They ask you to ignore and deny forever your rights and
> > > > observe, respect, and obey the dictates of a GOVERNMENT
> > > > you no longer control.
> > >
> > > Ron, please repost any such request. You can't. You are a liar.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Whether you accept that the Protocols of Zion are a carefully
> > > > thought out blueprint for the enslavement of all nations and
> > > > all men, or whether you accept their explanation that the
> > > > protocols were simply a concoction by Tsarist secret police,
> > > > an examination of the self evident TRUTH of the state of the
> > > > world and it's PEOPLES will show that the coincidence of the
> > > > current state of affairs and the agenda of the protocols
> > > > is eerily similar. Too similar to be ignored by those who
> > > > seek to preserve their inheirent and unalienable rights for
> > > > themselves and their children.
> > >
> > > Avoid These Tax Protest Scams Like You Would Avoid The Plague
> > > On a daily basis, we learn about various tax protest scams who will
> > > only succeed in leading you down a path of destruction. All of them
> > > perpetuate over the Internet. They run from the utterly absurd to the
> > > completely ridiculous, from the convicted felons to the merely looney.
> > > The bottom line is that ALL of the arguments are complete works of
> > > fiction and none have any validity whatsoever.
> > > http://www.taxes.com/tax_scams.html
> >
> > The "stinking of pigshit on his circumcised penis" treasonous
> > Jew Boy Joe, assigned to do Damage Control by typical Jew
> > disinformation programs for the Zionist Jew banksters and the
> > KOSHER NOSTRA Jew thugs who are the CANCER of the Planet Earth
> > and the enslavers of the Canadian People through, among others,
> > the hoax and fraudulent income tax scam.
> >
> > If you would care to see what the Stinky Pecker JEW BOY Joes
> > are all about, may I suggest you check out this webpage:
> >
> >
> http://globalfire.tv/nj/e2001/politics/putin-exposes-jewish-massmurderers.ht
> m
> >
> > This fellow is an American Jew who devotes much of each week on
> > this NG with his totally false dis-information webpage. Why would
> > this American be spending so much time attempting to keep Canadians
> > in economic slavery to the income tax scam - if he were other than
> > that which I state above.
> >
> > If you know of ANY other organizations, other than the Zionist Jew
> > Cult, who would benefit from the enslavement of Canadians, the
> > destruction of Canadian families and the establishment of a
> > Communist type of police state in Canada, not unlike that which
> > was established by the Jews under Lenin and Stalin.
> >
> > Eldon Warman
> > http://www.detaxcanada.org
> 
> Copy & Paste by the resident retard

Not to worry folks -- just another Jew "pig shit eater" vomiting
his bile.

Eldon Warman


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"Don"  wrote in message news:...
> "EG Warman"  wrote in message
> news:2005a7f1.0205261435.503c6d21@posting.google.com...
> > ron_star_diablow_asia_jimmy_suck@yahoo.com (JOE) wrote in message
>  news:...
> > > banmilk@hotmail.com (Ron) wrote in message
>  news:<436a5d81.0205051026.76557cce@posting.google.com>...
> > > > "We hold these truths to be self evident..."
> > > >
> > > > So begins the thunderclap heard round the world as the
> > > > 13 colonies determined to apply the TRUTHS, that all
> > > > men who would be free have known through all of man's
> > > > history, to the formation of a GOVERNMENT that would
> > > > have as it's basis, the supremacy of the inheirent and
> > > > unalianable rights of the people as endowed by their
> > > > Creator over man-made GOVERNMENT.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What real men knew all along, was finally put to paper not only
> > > > as a formal recognition of self evident TRUTH but as a
> > > > founding document for the formation of what GOVERNMENT should be.
> > > >
> > > > Squirmy, JOEY, Browney, and others of their ilk would deny
> > > > the self evidence of TRUTH. They ask that you blind yourselves
> > > > to TRUTH and accept what *is* as what should be.
> > >
> > > Ron, please repost any such request. You can't. You are a liar.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Obedience to the usurpation of the ownership of YOUR
> > > > GOVERNMENT is what they ask of you.
> > >
> > > Ron, please repost any such request. You can't. You are a liar.
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > They ask that you ignore what is self evident and follow
> > > > unquestionly that unlawful agenda.
> > >
> > > Ron, please repost any such request. You can't. You are a liar.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > They ask you to ignore and deny forever your rights and
> > > > observe, respect, and obey the dictates of a GOVERNMENT
> > > > you no longer control.
> > >
> > > Ron, please repost any such request. You can't. You are a liar.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Whether you accept that the Protocols of Zion are a carefully
> > > > thought out blueprint for the enslavement of all nations and
> > > > all men, or whether you accept their explanation that the
> > > > protocols were simply a concoction by Tsarist secret police,
> > > > an examination of the self evident TRUTH of the state of the
> > > > world and it's PEOPLES will show that the coincidence of the
> > > > current state of affairs and the agenda of the protocols
> > > > is eerily similar. Too similar to be ignored by those who
> > > > seek to preserve their inheirent and unalienable rights for
> > > > themselves and their children.
> > >
> > > Avoid These Tax Protest Scams Like You Would Avoid The Plague
> > > On a daily basis, we learn about various tax protest scams who will
> > > only succeed in leading you down a path of destruction. All of them
> > > perpetuate over the Internet. They run from the utterly absurd to the
> > > completely ridiculous, from the convicted felons to the merely looney.
> > > The bottom line is that ALL of the arguments are complete works of
> > > fiction and none have any validity whatsoever.
> > > http://www.taxes.com/tax_scams.html
> >
> > The "stinking of pigshit on his circumcised penis" treasonous
> > Jew Boy Joe, assigned to do Damage Control by typical Jew
> > disinformation programs for the Zionist Jew banksters and the
> > KOSHER NOSTRA Jew thugs who are the CANCER of the Planet Earth
> > and the enslavers of the Canadian People through, among others,
> > the hoax and fraudulent income tax scam.
> >
> > If you would care to see what the Stinky Pecker JEW BOY Joes
> > are all about, may I suggest you check out this webpage:
> >
> >
> http://globalfire.tv/nj/e2001/politics/putin-exposes-jewish-massmurderers.ht
> m
> >
> > This fellow is an American Jew who devotes much of each week on
> > this NG with his totally false dis-information webpage. Why would
> > this American be spending so much time attempting to keep Canadians
> > in economic slavery to the income tax scam - if he were other than
> > that which I state above.
> >
> > If you know of ANY other organizations, other than the Zionist Jew
> > Cult, who would benefit from the enslavement of Canadians, the
> > destruction of Canadian families and the establishment of a
> > Communist type of police state in Canada, not unlike that which
> > was established by the Jews under Lenin and Stalin.
> >
> > Eldon Warman
> > http://www.detaxcanada.org
> 
> Copy & Paste by the resident retard

Just another "pig shit" eating Jew vomiting his bile.

Eldon


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"Robert and/or Jennifer Kepes" wrote...

> "EG Warman"  wrote in message
> news:2005a7f1.0206260959.5ab51308@posting.google.com...
> 
> > Therefore Elizabeth II as Queen of Canada is, at best, a "de facto"
> > Monarch of Canada, and at worst, a PRETENDER and a hoax.
> >
> > Eldon Warman
> > http://www.detaxcanada.org
> 
> Not so.  Like it or not, the Queen is Canada's head of state.  Section 9 of
> Canada's Constitution Act states:
> 
> The Executive Government and Authority of and over Canada is hereby declared
> to continue and be vested in the Queen.
> 
> RK

OH! Come on now! The Constitution Act of 1982 is just that, an Act
(as in a play, a fictional circumstance). It was made by a usurper 
hoax organization which WAS called the Canadian Parliament, an
unincorporated organizatioin within the British Board of Trade, and 
subservient to the Corporation Sole of the "BRITISH" Governor General 
of the Colony of Canada. It ceased to exist as a reality in 1931.

In case you didn't notice, or cannot read, 1893, 1899, and 1931 all 
come before 1982. What is significant about the first three dates?
They are important because something happened on those dates which 
precludes anything happening in the latter date relative to the 
governance of Canada - and the People of Canada.

Eldon Warman


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"Robert E. Lewis" wrote ...

> Please offer an objective and reputable cite for the definition of "free
> liability man."  The only results I find in a Google search is for some
> crackpot paranoid site called "Detax Canada" which appears to have coined
> the term to claim legitimacy in killing government authorities by affording
> individuals the powers of prosecutor judge, jury and executioner for
> self-decided treason charges.
> 
> "Idem sonans"?  Sounds like?  The rule of idem sonans is that if a word, as
> misspelled, conveys to the ear the same word correctly spelled, the
> misspelling is not fatal to the validity of the document.  Your use of the
> term simply doesn't make any sense.
> 
> Well, since "full liability free will man" seems to be your fabrication, I
> do not mean that - I mean what the term means in the real world.
> 
> Is everyone else reading that last post reminded of Humpty Dumpty's
> explanation of language to Alice?
> 
> Robert

So!! The Zionist jerk, Rayder finds yet another 
PIG SHIT handle to call himself in his DAMAGE CONTROL
treason here on this NG.  Hmmmm......

Eldon Warman
http://www.detaxcanada.irg


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From: egwarman@outgun.com (EG Warman)
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Subject: Happy 4th ! Ya' All
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As we go out to celebrate our freedom this 4th of July, let's 
go over a few things to make your celebration a success.

Don't use any illegal fireworks in your 4th Celebration.
It is for your own safety.

Make sure you are buckled up in your seat belts, there will be 
roadblocks and checkpoints to make sure you comply. 
It is for the children.

If you are a Worldcom or Enron former employee, lighten up for 
the holiday, you can always look for a job tomorrow.

Don't mention God or Jesus if celebrating on any public property.
Government is God there. You will be aprehended.

Have your papers ready as you approach the holiday police 
checkpoints.

Don't criticize the President or other government officials, 
you might be in violation of the Patriot Act and considered a 
possible terrorist.

Don't mention the Constitution in any district court or you 
could be held in contempt.

If your children get out of line this holiday, do not discipline 
them, or they may be kidnapped by the Dept. of Social Services 
and held hostage until you receive approved psychological therapy 
and are deemed acceptable.

Show compassion this Independence Day by bringing an illegal 
immigrant to your celebration or by hugging a tree.

If an election is occurring in your locality within the next 90 
days, do not talk about or publicly support any candidate, as 
that is no longer lawful. Keep your mouth shut.

If an officer asks to search your vehicle at the "seat belt" 
checks, do not be belligerent and demand a search warrant.  
Standing up for your fourth amendment rights is anti-social 
and not in tune with the new American way.  Are you with 
Al Quada or something?

Do not get upset when the searching officer will not help you 
pick up your belongings that he has strewn all over the highway 
as he searched your vehicle.  It is not in his job description 
and complaining will get you charged with obstructing justice.

Keep your guns at home.  You are not going hunting and besides, 
What on earth do guns have to do with American Independence?  
Better yet, turn your guns into the authorities to let them 
know that you are a true patriotic American.

If celebrating at the mall in Washington DC. you are probably 
safe as the mall is now monitored by hundreds of surveillance 
cameras, watched by federal security forces.  Don't do anything 
that you wouldn't want them to see.

Bring lots of cash with you, there will be many taxes, fines, 
and fees to pay as you celebrate your freedoms this day.

Do not leave home without your driver's license, social security 
card, birth certificate, welfare card, medicare card, medical 
records, W-2 Form, and two others forms of ID.  You may be asked 
for them at the police checkpoints.
Better yet, get micro-chipped, and avoid the hassle of carrying 
around your papers.

Bring your library card, the FBI may ask you for it.

If traveling by air this Independence Day, do not give the airport 
screeners a hard time.  They are feeling you up and molesting your 
daughter and wife for the security of America.  If you complain 
you could be arrested.  You don't support Bin Laden do you?

Keep an eye on your fellow Americans as you celebrate this 4th 
of July.  If you see anything supicious, take notes so that when 
you get home you can call and report them to the Homeland Security 
Office.  And remember you are not a nosey snitch, you are a great 
American Patriot.

Do not mention the signers of the Declaration of Independence this 
4th of July.  Mentioning these white subversive terrorists is not 
popular and could get you in big trouble.  Besides what do these 
guys have to do with the 4th of July anyway?

Do not leave home without one or more little plastic American flags 
made by political slaves in Communist China.  Make sure you have one 
flying from the antennae of your vehicle.  You don't want to seem 
un-American do you?

Do not take a copy of the Declaration of Independence with you as 
it advocates the overthrow of tyrannical government.  It is a 
terrorist document and will be confiscated at the holiday police 
checkpoints.  Same advice for the Constitution.

And remember, as you leave home for your 4th of July outing, that 
the second you stepped out of your door that you probably broke 
hundreds of federal, state, and local laws that you are probably 
unaware of.  However, if you tow the line, you will not be charged.

Now go out and celebrate your independence and have a great 
Independence Day!

(Compliments of Billy-Joe Mauldin, Texas)

Posted by: Eldon Warman   calgary


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Ozzie Nelson  wrote in message news:<3D306064.BFB4F735@harriets.org>...
> EG Warman wrote:
> 
> > So?? Your point is?? (Other than your wish to demonstrate
> > that you are a typical Zionist traitor to the Canadian People).
> >
> > I posted on my DetaxCanada webpage some two years ago,
> > the following advice to those people following the
> > Humanity House procedures:
> >
> > "Daniel Levigne's Tax Refusal Program has merit; however,
> > I would suggest that anyone who participates in his program
> > should be also re-instated as a sovereign man by way of the
> > DetaxCanada Program."
> 
> Oh great, they're all coming out of the woodwork now.
> 
> Ozzie
> 
> "The Original"

Would that be "The Original Treason Jerk?"

Why don't you just spend your time pissing on your grandfather's 
grave? Any old fool who would breed traitors like you deserves
to have an outhouse on his grave, instead of a tombstone.

Eldon Warman


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Bush family's dirty little secret:
President's oil companies funded by Bin Laden family and 
wealthy Saudis who financed Osama bin Laden 

By Rick Wiles
Copyright: American Freedom News
September 2001 

President Bush recently signed an executive order to freeze 
the US financial assets of corporations doing business with 
Osama bin Laden. He described the order as a "strike on the 
financial foundation of the global terror network." 

"If you do business with terrorists, if you support or succor 
them, you will not do business with the United States," said 
President Bush. 

He didn't say anything about doing business with a terrorist's 
brother – or his wealthy financier.  

When President George W. Bush froze assets connected to Osama 
bin Laden, he didn't tell the American people that the terrorist 
mastermind's late brother was an investor in the president's 
former oil business in Texas.  He also hasn't leveled with the 
American public about his financial connections to a host of 
shady Saudi characters involved in drug cartels, gun smuggling, 
and  terrorist networks. 

Doing business with the enemy is nothing new to the Bush family.  
Much of the Bush family wealth came from supplying needed raw 
materials and credit to Adolf Hitler's Third Reich.  Several 
business operations managed by Prescott Bush – the president's 
grandfather - were seized by the US government during World 
War II under the Trading with the Enemy Act. 

On October 20, 1942, the federal government seized the Union 
Banking Corporation in New York City as a front operation for 
the Nazis.  Prescott Bush was a director.  Bush, E. Roland 
Harriman, two Bush associates, and three Nazi executives owned 
the bank's shares.  Eight days later, the Roosevelt administration 
seized two other corporations managed by Prescott Bush.  

The Holland-American Trading Corporation and the Seamless Steel 
Equipment Corporation, both managed by the Bush-Harriman bank, 
were accused by the US federal government of being front 
organizations for Hitler's Third Reich.  Again, on November 8, 
1942, the federal government seized Nazi-controlled assets of 
Silesian-American Corporation, another Bush-Harriman company 
doing business with Hitler.    

Doing business with the bin Laden empire, therefore, is only 
the latest extension of the Bush family's financial ties to 
unsavory individuals and organizations.  Now that thousands 
of American citizens have died in terrorist attacks and the 
nation is going to war, the American people should know about 
George W. Bush's relationship with the family of Osama bin Laden. 

Salem bin Laden, Osama's older brother, was an investor in 
Arbusto Energy. – the Texas oil company started by George W. 
Bush.  Arbusto means "Bush" in Spanish.  Salem bin Laden died 
in an airplane crash in Texas in 1988.  

Sheik Mohammed bin Laden, the family patriarch and founder of 
its construction empire, also died in a plane crash.  Upon his 
death in 1968, he left behind 57 sons and daughters – the 
offspring he sired with 12 wives in Saudi Arabia, Syria, 
Lebanon, and Jordan.  About a dozen brothers manage Bin 
Laden Brothers Construction – one of the largest construction 
firms in the Middle East.  

Fresh out of Harvard Business School, young George W. Bush 
returned to Midland, TX, in the late 1970s to follow his father's 
footsteps in the oil business.  Beginning in 1978, he set up a 
series of limited partnerships – Arbusto '78, Arbusto '79, and 
so on – to drill for oil.  

One of President Bush's earliest financial backers was James Bath, 
a Houston aircraft broker.  Bath served with President Bush in the 
Texas Air National Guard.  Bath has a mysterious connection to 
the Central Intelligence Agency.   

According to a 1976 trust agreement, Salem bin Laden appointed 
James Bath as his business representative in Houston.   
Revelation about Bath's relationship with the bin Laden financial 
empire and the CIA was made public in 1992 by Bill White, a 
former real estate business partner with Bath. White informed 
federal investigators in 1992 that Bath told him that he had 
assisted the CIA in a liaison role since 1976 – the same year 
former President George Herbert Walker Bush served as director 
of the CIA.   

During a bitter legal fight between White and Bath, the real 
estate partner disclosed that Bath managed a portfolio worth 
millions of dollars for Sheik Khalid bin Mahfouz and other 
wealthy Saudis.  Among the investments made by Bath with 
Mahfouz's money was the Houston Gulf Airport. 

A powerful banker in Saudi Arabia, Mahfouz was one of the largest 
stockholders in the Bank of Credit and Commerce International.  
BCCI was a corrupt global banking empire operating in 73 nations 
and was a major financial and political force in Washington, 
Paris, Geneva, London, and Hong Kong.  Despite the appearance 
of a normal banking operation, BCCI was actually an 
international crime syndicate providing "banking services" to 
the Medellin drug cartel, Pamama dictator Manuel Noriega, 
Saddam Hussein, terrorist mastermind Abu Nidal, and Khun Sa, 
the heroin kingpin in Asia's Golden Triangle. 

The BCCI scandal implicated some of the biggest political names 
in Washington – both Democrats and Republicans – during the first 
Bush White House.  The bank was accused of laundering money for 
drug cartels, smuggling weapons to terrorists, and using Middle 
Eastern oil money to influence American politicians.  

The chief of the Justice Department's criminal division under 
former President Bush was Robert Mueller.  Because the major 
players came out of the scandal with slaps on the wrists, many 
critics accused Mueller of botching the investigation.  
Mr. Mueller was recently appointed by President George W. Bush 
as the new Director of the FBI, replacing Louis Freeh who did 
nothing while William Jefferson Clinton allowed the Red 
Chinese to loot our national security secrets. 

The Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN), a division of 
the Justice Department, reviewed allegations by Bill White in 
1992 that James Bath funneled money from wealthy Middle Eastern 
businessmen to American companies to influence the policies of 
the Reagan and Bush administrations.  Robert Mueller, the new 
FBI chief, was in a senior position at the Justice Department 
at the time of the review. 

White told a Texas court in 1992 that Bath and the Justice 
Department had "blackballed" him professionally and financially 
because he refused to keep quiet about his knowledge of an 
Arabic conspiracy to launder Middle Eastern money into the bank 
accounts of American businesses and politicians. 

In sworn depositions, Bath admitted he represented four wealthy 
Saudi Arabian businessmen as a trustee.  He also admitted he used 
his name on their investments and received, in return, a five- 
percent stake in their business deals. 

Indeed, Texas tax documents revealed that Bath owned five percent 
of Arbusto '79 Ltd., and Arbusto '80 Ltd.  Bush Exploration Company 
controlled the limited partnerships, the general partnership firm 
owned by young George W. Bush. 

Although George W. Bush's Texas oil ventures were financial 
failures, his financial backers recovered their investments through 
a series of mergers and stock swaps. He changed Arbusto's name to 
Bush Exploration, then merged the new firm into Spectrum 7 Energy 
Corporation in 1984. 

The Bush-controlled oil business eventually ended up being folded 
into Harken Energy Corp., a Dallas-based corporation.  Mr. Bush 
joined Harken as a director in 1986 and was given 212,000 shares 
of Harken stock.  Bush used his White House connections to land a 
lucrative contract for the obscure Harken Energy Corp. with the 
Middle Eastern government of Bahrain.  On June 20, 1990, George 
W. Bush sold his Harken stock for $848,000 and paid off the loan 
he took out to buy his small share in the Texas Rangers.  

The Bahrain deal was brokered by David Edwards, a close pal to 
Bill Clinton and a former employee of Stephens Inc. Shortly after 
Bush sold his stock, Harken's fortunes nose-dived when Saddam 
Hussein invaded Kuwait.  Some critics claim young George was 
tipped off in advance by his father about the soon-coming Gulf War. 

George W. Bush, however, worked wonders for Harken Energy Corp. 
before the stock collapsed.   Using the Bush family name, he 
managed to bring much-needed capital investment to the struggling 
firm.  George W. Bush traveled to Little Rock, AR, to attend a 
meeting with Jackson Stephens – a powerful Arkansas tycoon who 
helped bankroll the state campaigns of young Bill Clinton. 

He first gained political prominence as a fund-raiser for 
President Jimmy Carter. Stephens was also deeply involved in 
the BCCI scandal by helping the corrupt bank take control of 
First American Bank in Washington, DC. 

Jack Stephens didn't need an introduction to young George W. Bush.
Mary Anne Stephens, his wife, managed Vice President George Bush's 
1988 presidential campaign in Arkansas.  Stephens Inc., the well 
connected brokerage firm owned by Jack Stephens, donated $100,000 
to a Bush campaign fundraising dinner in 1991.  When George W. 
Bush won the contested Florida election in 2000, Jack Stephens 
made a substantial contribution to the Bush inauguration.  
Recently, former President Bush played golf on April 11, 2001, 
with Jack Stephens at the Jack Stephens Youth Golf Academy in 
Little Rock.  The former president told Stephens, "Jack, we 
love you and we are very, very grateful for what you have done." 

Perhaps the former president was thanking him for the money 
Stephens provided young George W. Bush.  Stephens arranged for 
a $25 million investment from the Union des Banques Suisses.  
The Swiss Bank held the minority interest in the Banque de 
Commerce et de Placements, a Geneva-based subsidiary of BCCI. 

Both Stephens and Abdullah Taha Bakhsh, a wealthy and well-
connected Saudi real estate investor, signed the financial 
transaction. The Geneva transaction was paid through a joint 
venture between the Union Bank of Switzerland and its Geneva 
branch of BCCI.  

The BCCI connection, therefore, linked George W. Bush with 
Saudi banker Khaled bin Mahfouz.  Known in Arab circles as 
the "king's treasurer," Mahfouz held a 20 percent take in 
BCCI between 1986 and 1990.  Mahfouz is no stranger to the 
Bush family.  He was a big investor in the Carlyle Group, 
a defense-industry investment group with deep connections 
to the Republican Party establishment.  Former President 
Bush is a former member of the company's board of directors.  
George W. Bush also held shares in Caterair, a Carlyle 
subsidiary.  Sami Baarma, a powerful player in the Mahfouz-
owned Prime Commercial Bank of Pakistan, is a member of the 
Carlyle Group's international advisory board.    

President Bush certainly is aware of that his former Saudi 
sugar daddy is still financing Osama bin Laden's terrorist 
network.  USA Today newspaper reported in 1999 that a year 
after bin Laden's attacks on US embassies in Africa, Khaled 
bin Mahfouz and other wealthy Saudis were funneling tens of 
millions of dollars each year into bin Laden's bank accounts.  
Five top Saudi businessmen ordered the National Commercial 
Bank to transfer personal funds and $3 million pilfered from 
a Saudi pension fund to the Capitol Trust Bank in New York 
City.  The money was deposited into the Islamic Relief and 
Blessed Relief - Islamic charities operating in the US and 
Great Britain as fronts for Osama bin Laden. 

The Capitol Trust Bank is run by Mohammad Hussein al-Amoudi.  
His lawyer is Democratic Party bigwig Vernon Jordan, close 
friend of former President Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky.   

Abdullah Taha Bakhsh, the Arab who cosigned the $25 million 
cash infusion into George W. Bush's Harken Energy Corporation, 
appointed Talat Othman to manage his 17.6 percent share in 
Harken Energy Corp.  Othman, a native Palestinian, is president 
and CEO of Dearborn Financial Inc. – an investment firm in 
Arlington Heights, IL.    

Bakhsh also bought a 9.6 percent stake in Worthen Banking 
Corporation, the Arkansas bank controlled by Jack Stephens.  
Abdullah Bakhsh's share was the identical percentage as the 
amount of shares sold by Mochtar Riady, the godfather of the 
wealthy Indonesian family with close ties to the Chinese 
communists, Bill Clinton and evangelist Pat Robertson.  
Bakhsh is represented by Rogers & Wells, a well-connected 
Republican law firm in New York whose partners include 
former Secretary of State William P. Rogers. 

Independent investigator reporter David Twersky reported in 
the early 1990s that Othman had a seat on Harken's board of 
directors and met three times in the White House with President 
George Herbert Walker Bush.  Organized by Chief of Staff John 
Sununu, Othman's first meeting with President Bush at the 
White House was in August 1990, just days after Saddam Hussein 
invaded Kuwait. 

There exist to this day an Arab-Texas connection.  Khalid bin M
ahfouz, financier of both George W. Bush and Osama bin Laden, 
still maintains a palatial estate in Houston, TX.  Former 
President George Bush also lives in Houston.  James Bath, 
Texas political confidant of George W. Bush, managed to obtain 
a $1.4 million loan from Mahfouz in 1990.  Bath and Mahfouz, 
along with former Secretary of Treasury John Connally, were 
also co-investors in Houston's Main Bank.  Bath was also 
president of Skyway Aircraft Leasing Ltd, a Texas air charter 
company registered in the Cayman Islands.  According to 
published reports in the early 1990s, the real owner was bin 
Mahfouz.  When Salem bin Laden, Osama' brother, died in 1988, 
his interest in the Houston Gulf Airport was transferred to 
bin Mahfouz.  

Since Osama bin Laden's bloody attack on America on September 11, 
the federal government has moved quickly to freeze bank accounts 
connected to Osama bin Laden, Khalid bin Mahfouz, and a host of 
Islamic charities.  

Perhaps federal agents should freeze the financial assets of the 
Bush family too.  It would not be the first time Bush-family assets 
were seized by the US government for trading with the enemy. 

This article found here:

http://www.americanfreedomnews.com/afn_articles/bushsecrets.htm

Posted by:

Eldon Warman
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> StaR wrote (in posting:- USA Hopelessly Bankrupt:

This is GOOD STUFF StaR.. In reference to the below quote:

"> DUHAIME'S LAW DICTIONARY (canadian)
> 
> by Lloyd Duhaime, Barrister & Solicitor 
> 
> Civil law 
> 
> Law inspired by old Roman Law, the primary feature of which was that
> laws were written into a collection; codified, and not determined, as
> is common law, by judges. The principle of civil law is to provide all
> citizens with an accessible and written collection of the laws which
> apply to them and which judges must follow. "

We know that Canadian judges do NOT follow the last sentence of the 
above quote - especially in income tax cases. The codified Income Tax 
Act is frequently "interpreted" or totally disregarded by judges.

How is this so? With the "contract" in question being the contract to 
be a crewmember on the make-believe ship called the Crown, the court 
system writes the charges, indictments, transcripts and summons in 
the manner of admiralty/civil. Upon accepting any of these documents 
at face value by the accuse ignorant Canadian man/woman, the 
admiralty/civil phase is complete. From that point of acceptance 
or "appearance", the case then moves into "equity - contract 
arbitration" were the accused is charged with a violation of 
contract - not providing full servitude to the Crown - as is
the requirement (terms) of one being in a contract of servitude to 
the Crown. An arbitration judge may interpret the terms as he/she
sees fit, without regard to the civil codified Act.

So, for those who dwell on the rules and procedures within the Income 
Tax Act, or with terminology within the Act, this is a totally futile
effort relative to a failure to file charge. The judge can move the
goal posts at will in an equity court.

Find the remedy here to being charged in a civil court, which is 
totally against your common law rights. Louisiana had to write into 
their civil code the means for State Citizens to access the common
law, as required in the commonality clause within the USA 
Constitution. Also, the US Federal civil code has a means to 
redress the violation of rights which is inimical to civil law.
These rules apply to Canadian law and courts as well as the USA.

http://www.legis.state.la.us/tsrs/tsrs.asp?lawbody=RS&title=15§ion=429

Rule 44 & 44.1
http://www2.law.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/foliocgi.exe/frcp/query=
[jump!3A!27rule44!27]/doc/{@495}?

As a man under common law, you are of a "foreign" jurisdiction to 
the civil court. The "equity" court arises out of the determination 
that a man is a subject/servant of the Crown or of the State. The
affidavit must dispute that one is a corporate member of the Crown 
or of the State. It is best notarized by a notary public (usually
a lawyer) and the notary's signature confirmed by apostille by the
Provincial or State Secretary. More on this can be found at:

http://www.detaxcanada.org/corporate.htm

Eldon Warman
http://www.detaxcanada.org

>StaR wrote: 
> 
> To the readership....here are the FACTS OF LAW that our pundit has
> been  UNABLE to refute point for point which is why he offers nothing
> but a demented rant in his feeble attempt to PROTECT the LEGAL PLUNDER
> he calls INCOME TAX.. 
> 
> Canada and the bankrupt U.S.A. are set up as BODIES CORPORATE -
> CORPORATIONS under ROMAN CIVIL/MUNICIPAL LAW - the law of PERSONS and
> BOTH CORPORATIONS have become CORRUPT to the FIAT CORE. Citizens are
> MEMBERS of said BODY CORPORATE with a ranking of PERSON - a CORPORATE
> EXISTENCE within the BODY CORPORATE - a LIMITED LIABILITY - a NATURAL
> PERSON being a man having the character of a CORPORATION in order to
> FUNCTION WITHIN the BODY CORPORATE . It is limited in that the
> FICTIONAL LEGAL IDENTITY (your PERSON) created from the ROMAN
> CIVIL/MUNICIPAL (statute) LAW for which you ACCEPT LIABILITY FOR has
> an EXISTENCE and FUNCTION which is completely DEPENDENT and DICTATED
> by the BODY CORPORATE - the ISSUER of said LEGAL IDENTITY. Put very
> simply...A PERSON SHALL DO THIS AND DO THAT OR ELSE
> 
> Once you have entered into the realm of the PRIVATE LEGISLATION (read
> PRIVILEGES) of the BODY CORPORATE, your COMMON LAW UNALIENABLE RIGHTS
> are a thing of the past.
> 
> A ROLE is exactly what a man takes on when accepting the STATUS of a
> PERSON The word PERSON at law is simply a FICTITIOUS LEGAL ENTITY that
> REPRESENTS a BODY. The BODY CORPORATE - the "Government of Canada", is
> itself a FICTITIOUS LEGAL ENTITY; ie existing on paper only, a
> CONCEPT, a PERSON at LAW. The LAW functions and operates in FICTION;
> ie a CONCEPT of man. This is where the use of the word PERSON comes
> in. A PERSON at LAW is a FICTIONAL LEGAL(of law) REPRESENTATION of a
> BODY; ie a BODY corporate, a BODY politic or a natural BODY. Again, a
> PERSON at law is not the BODY itself but a REPRESENTATION of that
> BODY, either "natural" or "artificial" or "politic". All of these
> BODIES are PERSONS at LAW and are EQUIVALENT "entities" under the
> LAW."
> 
> Of course the scam is the FRAUDULENT INCORPORATION of a man into such
> a LIMITED LIABILTY. Under the common law of the land, it is a MAN's
> RIGHT whether or not he wishes to CONTRACT himself with a BODY
> CORPORATE and taking on a FUNCTION within the BODY CORPORATE such as
> the rank and file of PERSON.  
> 
> In essence my friends, you are no longer living in the image of
> Christ, A MAN. but rather in the image of the state (Caeser), a
> P-E-R-S-O-N under an ASSUMED CONTRACT of INCORPORATION.
> 
> FACT:
> 
> Canada and U.S.A. are under the ROMAN CIVIL/MUNICIPAL LAW
> 
> ----------
> DUHAIME'S LAW DICTIONARY (canadian)
> 
> by Lloyd Duhaime, Barrister & Solicitor 
> 
> Civil law 
> 
> Law inspired by old Roman Law, the primary feature of which was that
> laws were written into a collection; codified, and not determined, as
> is common law, by judges. The principle of civil law is to provide all
> citizens with an accessible and written collection of the laws which
> apply to them and which judges must follow. 
> ----------
> Black's 6th
> 
> Civil Law :
> 
> That body of law which every partical nation, commonwealth, or city
> has established peculiarly for itself; more properly called
> "municipal" law, to distinguish it from the "law of nature", and from
> international law. The system of jurisprudence held and administered
> in the Roman Empire, particularly as set forth in the compilation of
> Justinian and his successors -- comprising the institutes, Code,
> Digest, and Novels, and collectively denominated the "Corpus Juris
> Civilis", -- as distinguished from the common law of England and Canon
> law.
> ----------
> A LAW DICTIONARY
> 
> by John Bouvier
> 
> LAW, CIVIL. The term civil law is generally applied by way of eminence
> to the civil or municipal law of the Roman empire, without distinction
> as to the time when the principles of such law were established or
> modified. In another sense, the civil law is that collection of laws
> comprised in the institutes, the code, and the digest of the emperor
> Justinian, and the novel constitutions of himself and some of his
> successors. Ersk. Pr. L. Scotl. B. 1, t. l, s. 9; 6 L. R. 494.
> ----------
> A LAW DICTIONARY
> 
> by John Bouvier
> 
> CIVIL LAW. The municipal code of the Romans is so called. It is a rule
> of action, adopted by mankind in a state of society. It denotes also
> the municipal law of the land. 1 Bouv. Inst. n. 11. See Law, civil.
> ----------
> A LAW DICTIONARY
> 
> by John Bouvier
> 
> MUNICIPAL. Strictly, this word applies only to what belongs to a city.
> Among the Romans, cities were called municipia; these cities
> voluntarily joined the Roman republic in relation to their sovereignty
> only, retaining, their laws, their liberties, and their magistrates,
> who were thence called municipal magistrates. With us this word has a
> more extensive meaning; for example, we call municipal law, not the
> law of a city only, but the law of the state. 1 Bl. Com. Municipal is
> used in contradistinction to international; thus we say an offence
> against the law of nations is an international offence, but one
> committed against a particular state or separate community, is a
> municipal offence.
> ----------
> 
> FACT:
> 
> A PERSON is a FICTIONAL LEGAL ENTITY/IDENTITY created from the law
> that REPRESENTS a BODY whether it be a BODY CORPORATE, a BODY POLITIC
> or a HUMAN BODY. A "natural" PERSON is such an ENTITY/IDENTITY that
> REPRESENTS a HUMAN BODY and is used to DESIGNATE a STATUS within the
> BODY CORPORATE - ITSELF a PERSON at law.
> 
> ----------
> Ontario Government Birth Certificate info page
> http://www.cbs.gov.on.ca/mcbs/english/births.htm
> 
> "Registering your child's birth is the first step to giving your baby
> a legal identity. Once your baby's birth is registered, you will be
> able to apply for a birth certificate.
> 
> A birth certificate is a legal document needed to establish legal
> identity and will be used throughout your child's life to obtain
> health services, a passport, old age pension and many other beneficial
> services."
> ----------
> Bouvier's Institutes, note 1.
> 
> "The signification in Our Jurisprudence .... The word ‘Person,' in its
> primitive and natural sense, signifies the mask with which actors, who
> played dramatic pieces in Rome and Greece, covered their heads. These
> pieces were played in public places. and afterwards in Such vast
> amphitheaters that it was impossible for a man to make himself heard
> by all the spectators. Recourse was had to art; the head of each actor
> was enveloped with a mask, the figure of which represented the Part he
> was to play, and it was so contrived that the opening for the emission
> of his voice made the sounds clearer and more resounding, vox
> personabat, when the name persona was given to the instrument or mask
> which facilitated the resounding of his voice. The name persona was
> afterwards applied to the part itself which the actor had undertaken
> to play, because the face of the mask was adapted to the age and
> character of him who was considered as speaking, and sometimes it was
> his own portrait. It is in this last sense of personage, or of the
> part which an individual plays, that the word persona is employed in
> jurisprudence, in opposition to the word man, homo. When we speak of a
> person, we only consider the state of the man, the part he plays in
> society, abstractly, without considering the individual". 1
> ----------
> Charlton T. Lewis, Charles Short, A Latin Dictionary
> 
> persona , ae, f [acc. to Gabius Bassus ap. Gell. 5, 7, 1 sq., from
> per-sono, to sound through, with the second syllable lengthened].
> 
> II. Transf., a personage, character, part, represented by an actor:
> "parasiti persona," Ter. Eun. prol. 26 sq. : "sub persona militis,"
> Gell. 13, 22, 11 : "(tragici) nihil ex persona poëtae dixerunt," Vell.
> 1, 3, 2 .--Hence,
> 
> B. Also, transf. beyond the scenic lang., in gen., the part or
> character which any one sustains in the world (class.):
> 
> 2. A human being who performs any function, plays any part, a person,
> personage: ...to people of a certain standing and of a certain age,
> Suet. Caes. 43 :...
> 
> (g). Law t. t., a being having legal rights and obligations (including
> the state, etc.; not including slaves; cf. Sandars ad Just. Inst.
> introd. § 37; "1, 3 prooem.): omne jus quo utimur, vel ad personas
> pertinet vel ad res vel ad actiones," Dig. 1, 5, 1 ; Just. Inst. 1, 3
> prooem.--
> ----------
> A LAW DICTIONARY
> 
> by John Bouvier
> 
> PERSON. This word is applied to men, women and children, who are
> called natural persons. In law, man and person are not exactly
> synonymous terms. Any human being is a man, whether he be a member of
> society or not, whatever may be the rank he holds, or whatever may be
> his age, sex, &c. A person is a man considered according to the rank
> he holds in society, with all the rights to which the place he holds
> entitles him, and the duties which it imposes. 1 Bouv. Inst. n. 137.
> ----------
> DUHAIME'S LAW DICTIONARY (canadian)
> 
> by Lloyd Duhaime, Barrister & Solicitor 
> 
> Person 
> 
> An entity with legal rights and existence including the ability to sue
> and be sued, to sign contracts, to receive gifts, to appear in court
> either by themselves or by lawyer and, generally, other powers
> incidental to the full expression of the entity in law. Individuals
> are "persons" in law unless they are minors or under some kind of
> other incapacity such as a court finding of mental incapacity. Many
> laws give certain powers to "persons" which, in almost all instances,
> includes business organizations that have been formally registered
> such as partnerships, corporations or associations. 
> ----------
> The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth
> Edition.
> 2000.
> 
> en·ti·ty
> 
> 1. Something that exists as a particular and discrete unit: Persons
> and corporations are equivalent entities under the law. 2. The fact of
> existence; being. 3. The existence of something considered apart from
> its properties.
> ----------
> "I find that a "person" as defined in s. 248(l) of the Income Tax Act
> includes both a natural person and an artificial person. It follows
> that the applicant is a "person" and a "taxpayer". I also find that he
> is a person "resident" in Canada. Either a corporation or a person may
> be "resident" or, indeed, for other legal purposes "domiciled", in
> Canada or elsewhere. As a "person", the applicant has the, same rights
> and obligations as any other "person" under the Income Tax Act. His
> obligations include the filing of annual income tax returns and the
> payment of any income tax owing under his returns." - Judge Sedgwick
> J.
> ----------
> 
> FACT:
> 
> A CLEAR example that a PERSON represents a HUMAN BODY is in the case
> when a WOMAN was CIVILLY MERGED with her husband, BOTH BECOMING BUT
> ONE PERSON.
> 
> ----------
> A LAW DICTIONARY
> 
> by John Bouvier
> 
> Revised Sixth Edition, 1856
> 
> PARTIES, contracts. Those persons who engage themselves to do, or not
> to do the matters and things contained in an agreement. 
> 
> 9. - 1. A married woman has, in general, no power or capacity to
> contract during the coverture. Com. Dig. Baron & Feme, W; Pleader, 2 A
> 1. She has in legal contemplation no separate existence, her hushand
> and herself being in law but one person. 
> ----------
> COVERTURE. The state or condition of a married woman.
> 
> 2. During coverture, the being of the wife is civilly merged, for many
> purposes, into that of her hushand; she can, therefore, in general,
> make no contracts without his consent, express or implied. Com. Dig.
> Baron and Feme, W; Pleader, 2 A 1; 1 Ch. Pl. 19, 45; Litt. s. 28;
> Chit. Contr. 39; 1 Bouv. Inst. n. 276.
> ----------
> 
> FACT:
> 
> A PERSON is a MEMBER of the BODY CORPORATE by INCORPORATION.
> 
> ----------
> Webster's 1828 Dictionary
> MEM'BER, n. [L. membrum.]
> 
> 4. An individual of a community or society. Every citizen is a member
> of the state or body politic. So the individuals of a club, a
> corporation or confederacy, are called its members. Students of an
> academy or college are its members. Professed christians are called
> members of the church.
> ----------
> The National Law Library, published by Collier, Volume III, p.358
> 
> "Citizenship implies political status. It may or may not confer
> suffrage or any other particular incident, but it does imply
> incorporation into the body politic."
> ----------
> A LAW DICTIONARY
> 
> By John Bouvier
> 
> STATE, government. This word is used in various senses. In its most
> enlarged sense, it signifies a self-sufficient body of persons united
> together in one community for the defence of their rights, and to do
> right and justice to foreigners. In this sense, the state means the
> whole people united into one body politic; (q. v.) and the state, and
> the people of the state, are equivalent expressions. 1 Pet. Cond. Rep.
> 37 to 39; 3 Dall. 93; 2 Dall. 425; 2 Wilson's Lect. 120; Dane's Appx.
> §50, p. 63 1 Story, Const. §361.
> ----------
> Online Plain Text English Dictionary
> 
> People (n.) The body of persons who compose a community, tribe,
> nation, or race; an aggregate of individuals forming a whole; a
> community; a nation.
> ----------
> Webster's 1828 Dictionary
> 
> PEOPLE, n. [L. populus.]
> 
> 1. The body of persons who compose a community, town, city or nation.
> We say, the people of a town; the people of London or Paris; the
> English people. In this sense, the word is not used in the plural, but
> it comprehends all classes of inhabitants, considered as a collective
> body, or any portion of the inhabitants of a city or country.
> ----------
> 1911 edition of the Encyclopedia Britannica
> 
> PEOPLE, a collective term for persons in general, especially as
> forming the body of persons in a community or nation, the folk" (the
> O.E. and Teut. word, cf. Ger. Volk).
> ----------
> Merriam-Webster's WWWebster Dictionary
> 
> Main Entry: 1peo·ple
> Pronunciation: 'pE-p&l
> Function: noun
> Inflected Form(s): plural people
> Etymology: Middle English peple, from Old French peuple, from Latin
> populus
> Date: 13th century
> 
> 7 : the body of enfranchised citizens of a state
> ----------
> A LAW DICTIONARY
> 
> by John Bouvier
> 
> TO ENFRANCHISE. To make free to incorporate a man in a society or body
> politic. Cunn. L. D. h. t. Vide Disfranchise.
> ----------
> Online Plain Text English Dictionary
> 
> Enfranchise (v. t.) To endow with a franchise; to incorporate into a
> body politic and thus to invest with civil and political privileges;
> to admit to the privileges of a freeman.
> ----------
> A LAW DICTIONARY
> 
> by John Bouvier
> 
> INCORPORATION. This term is frequently confounded, particularly in the
> old books, with corporation. The distinction between them is this,
> that by incorporation is understood the act by which a corporation is
> created; by corporation is meant the body thus created. Vide
> Corporation.
> ----------
> Online Plain Text English Dictionary
> 
> Incorporate (v. t.) To form into a legal body, or body politic; to
> constitute into a corporation recognized by law, with special
> functions, rights, duties and liabilities; as, to incorporate a bank,
> a railroad company, a city or town, etc.
> 
> Incorporated (a.) United in one body; formed into a corporation; made
> a legal entity.
> ----------
> Webster's 1828 Dictionary
> 
> INCOR'PORATE, v.t. [L. incorporo; in and corpus, a body.]
> 
> 6. To form into a legal body, or body politic; to constitute a body,
> composed of one or more individuals,with the quality of perpetual
> existence or succession, unless limited by the act of incorporation;
> as, to incorporate the inhabitants of a city, town or parish; to
> incorporate the proprietors of a bridge, the stockholders of a bank,
> of an insurance company, &c. New Haven was incorporated in January
> 1784; Hartford in May 1784.
> ----------
> Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996
> 
> incorporate \In*cor"po*rate\, v. t. [imp. & p. p. Incorporated; p. pr.
> & vb. n. Incorporating.]
> 
> 5. To form into a legal body, or body politic; to constitute into a
> corporation recognized by law, with special functions, rights, duties
> and liabilities; as, to incorporate a bank, a railroad company, a city
> or town, etc.
> ----------
> A Manual of Elementary Law, 1894, Department of law, University of
> Michigan.
> 
> "The exact nature of a corporation can be best understood by an
> illustration. Let us suppose that five persons wish to begin the
> conduct of a certain business, and think it desirable to do this in a
> form of a corporation. They agree among themselves to purchase a
> certain percentage of the stock of the corporation as soon as formed.
> When the corporation is organized according to law, the five member or
> stockholders do not become identified with the corporation, but are
> merely in business relations with it. They are stock holders in it,
> and as such entitled to their share of the profits. And so it is with
> a public corporation. Every citizen is in one sense a member of it.
> And yet he is not identified with it. The corporation continues to
> exist even though he may die or move out of its jurisdiction. The
> corporation, whether public or private, is, for the most purposes, a
> legal entity. It can act only through its agents."
> ----------


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jenuths@homacjen.ab.ca wrote in message news:...
> In can.taxes EG Warman  wrote:
> f> jenuths@homacjen.ab.ca wrote in message news:...
> 
> >> No doubt this is the case.  But that's because the income tax act
> >> is interpreted within a common law system.
> >> 
> > If judges are acting in "common law" in income tax cases, it is NOT 
> > Anglo-Saxon Common Law. The Common Law can ONLY be free will man 
> > against free will man.
> 
> My history tells me that this was not the case even before the
> Norman conquest.
> 
Maybe, you should get a more reliable history book.
"Common sense" tells us that mindless objects cannot be held
accountable for "mens rea", unless you have a good imagination,
and your "under bed monsters" agree with you.

Eldon

> -- 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Stephen Jenuth
> (jenuths@homacjen.ab.ca)
> 
> Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
> 
> pgp/gpg public key available at http://keyserver.pgp.com


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jenuths@homacjen.ab.ca wrote in message news:...
> In can.taxes EG Warman  wrote:
> >> StaR wrote (in posting:- USA Hopelessly Bankrupt:
>  
> > This is GOOD STUFF StaR.. In reference to the below quote:
>  
> > "> DUHAIME'S LAW DICTIONARY (canadian)
> >> 
> >> by Lloyd Duhaime, Barrister & Solicitor 
> >> 
> >> Civil law 
> >> 
> >> Law inspired by old Roman Law, the primary feature of which was that
> >> laws were written into a collection; codified, and not determined, as
> >> is common law, by judges. The principle of civil law is to provide all
> >> citizens with an accessible and written collection of the laws which
> >> apply to them and which judges must follow. "
>  
> > We know that Canadian judges do NOT follow the last sentence of the 
> > above quote - especially in income tax cases. The codified Income Tax 
> > Act is frequently "interpreted" or totally disregarded by judges.
> 
> No doubt this is the case.  But that's because the income tax act
> is interpreted within a common law system.
> 
If judges are acting in "common law" in income tax cases, it is NOT 
Anglo-Saxon Common Law. The Common Law can ONLY be free will man 
against free will man. The government or corporate agencies such as 
the Crown and CCRA are fictititious entities without a mind - a tin
man, without a free will mind. Therefore, the only "common law" 
these judges would be operating under would be a Roman based law 
system that is commonly used in Europe - civil code, where the make 
believe ship (corporate entity) is superior to those men in the 
status of "crewmember" under a master/servant rule. The official 
publications of the California constitution found in reference 
libraries in California address the fact that there are "other" 
common law systems. It is stated something like this:
"The State of California shall use the Anglo-Saxon Common Law
only, and not any other common law system of Europe."

> Although both Quebec and Louisiana law are based on civil law systems.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Stephen Jenuth
> (jenuths@homacjen.ab.ca)
>


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jenuths wrote ...
> 
> Members of Parliament are not delegates.  They are individuals and
> are not bound by the wishes of people within their constituency, the
> wishes of their party, or their leader.  They are independent of 
> all of these, and are allowed to do exactly what they want in terms
> of voting.
> Stephen Jenuth

Stephen, I would suggest you tell that fib to Dr. Alex Kindy or 
Mr. Kilgour and see if they agree with you. (Those were the two PC 
MP's who voted against the GST, and Mulroney turfed them out of 
the PC Party. And, how many MP's has Cretin turfed for voting 
against his demands?

I have great difficulty understanding how this Jenuths creep purports
himself to be a crusader for civil rights in Calgary, but is camped 
on this NG with his sleazy lawyer's lies and treasonous deceit against 
the People of Canada. Is he just a typical traitorous Canadian lawyer,
or is his commitment to the de facto and hoax government of Canada's 
move into despotism?

Eldon Warman
http://www.detaxcanada.org

The website the Canadian Government seems to be most interested 
in these days - 4 hits today, and at least one yesterday from
198.103.184.76 (gc.ca), and at least once yesterday by fin.gc.ca. 
Hope they are learning something!


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FEDERAL CORPORATIONS - "The United
States government is a foreign corporation with respect to a state."
--- 19  Corpus Juris Secundum XVIII. Foreign Corporations, Sections
883, 884

The remedy for any American charged with an infraction of the 
corporate law (Federal Law) of the United States is contained within 
Section 44 and 44.1 of Federal Rules Of Civil Procedures:

Rule 44. Proof of Official Record 
(a) Authentication.

(1) Domestic.

An official record kept within the United States, or any state, 
district, or commonwealth, or within a territory subject to the 
administrative or judicial jurisdiction of the United States, or 
an entry therein, when admissible for any purpose, may be evidenced 
by an official publication thereof or by a copy attested by the 
officer having the legal custody of the record, or by the officer's 
deputy, and accompanied by a certificate that such officer has the 
custody. The certificate may be made by a judge of a court of record 
of the district or political subdivision in which the record is kept,
authenticated by the seal of the court, or may be made by any public
officer having a seal of office and having official duties in the 
district or political subdivision in which the record is kept, 
authenticated by the seal of the officer's office.

(2) Foreign.

A foreign official record, or an entry therein, when admissible for 
any purpose, may be evidenced by an official publication thereof; or 
a copy thereof, attested by a person authorized to make the 
attestation, and accompanied by a final certification as to the 
genuineness of the signature and official position (i) of the 
attesting person, or (ii) of any foreign official whose certificate 
of genuineness of signature and official position relates to the 
attestation or is in a chain of certificates of genuineness of 
signature and official position relating to the attestation. 
A final certification may be made by a secretary of embassy or 
legation, consul general, vice consul, or consular agent 
of the United States, or a diplomatic or consular official of the 
foreign country assigned or accredited to the United States. If 
reasonable opportunity has been given to all parties to investigate 
the authenticity and accuracy of the documents, the court may, for 
good cause shown, (i) admit an attested copy without final 
certification or (ii) permit the foreign official record to be 
evidenced by an attested summary with or without a final 
certification. The final certification is unnecessary if the record 
and the attestation are certified as provided in a treaty or 
convention to which the United States and the foreign country in 
which the official record is located are parties.

(b) Lack of Record. 

A written statement that after diligent search no record or entry 
of a specified tenor is found to exist in the records of his office, 
designated by the statement, authenticated as provided in subdivision 
(a)(1) of this rule in the case of a domestic record, or complying 
with the requirements of subdivision (a)(2) of this rule for a summary
in the case of a foreign record, is admissible as evidence that the 
records contain no such record or entry.

(c) Other Proof.

This rule does not prevent the proof of official records or of entry 
or lack of entry therein by any other method authorized by law.

Notes 

Rule 44.1. Determination of Foreign Law 
A party who intends to raise an issue concerning the law of a foreign 
country shall give notice by pleadings or other reasonable written 
notice. The court, in determining foreign law, may consider any 
relevant material or source, including testimony, whether or not 
submitted by a party or admissible under the Federal Rules of 
Evidence. The court's determination shall be treated as a ruling 
on a question of law.  Unquote

How many American people are in Federal Prison on admiralty charges 
because they didn't know that they, as Anglo-Saxon Common Law People, 
were trapped into the hoax admiralty jurisdiction by treasonous
lawyers and judges?

We have a similiar situation in Canada where our courts are all 
commercial enterprises and entrap People into their false 
jurisdiction by assuming that the People are subjects of the 
limited liability corporation called the Crown.

Eldon Warman
http://www.detaxcanada.org


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majorquantrell3@hotmail.com (Quantrell) wrote in message news:...
> egwarman@outgun.com (EG Warman) wrote in message news:<2005a7f1.0209052033.4b98da67@posting.google.com>...
> > "Scott Narter"  wrote in message news:<11nd9.47683$Ic7.3479899@news2.west.cox.net>...
> > > B. Contention: Only foreign-source income is taxable.
> > > 
> > > Some maintain that there is no federal statute imposing a tax on
> > > income derived from sources within the United States by citizens 
> > > or residents of the United States. They argue instead that federal 
> > > income taxes are excise taxes imposed only on nonresident aliens 
> > > and foreign corporations for the privilege of receiving income 
> > > from sources within the United States. The premise for this argument 
> > > is a misreading of sections 861, et seq., and 911, et seq., as well 
> > > as the regulations under those sections.
> > > 
> > > The Law: As stated above, for federal income tax purposes, "gross
> > > income" means all income from whatever source derived and includes
> > > compensation for services. I.R.C. § 61. Further, Treasury
> > > Regulation § 1.1-1(b) provides, "[i]n general, all citizens of the 
> > > United States, wherever resident, and all resident alien individuals 
> > > are liable to the income taxes imposed by the Code whether the income 
> > > is received from sources within or without the United States." I.R.C.
> > > sections 861 and 911
> > > -6-
> > > define the sources of income (U.S. versus non-U.S. source income) for
> > > such purposes as the prevention of double taxation of income that is
> > > subject to tax by more than one country. These sections neither
> > > specify whether income is taxable, nor do they determine or define 
> > > gross income.
> > > Further, these frivolous assertions are clearly contrary to well-
> > > established legal precedent.
> > > 
> > > Relevant Case Law:
> > > 
> > > Williams v. Commissioner, 114 T.C. 136, 138 (2000) - the court
> > > rejected the taxpayer's argument that his income was not from any 
> > > of the sources listed in Treas. Reg. § 1.861-8(a), characterizing 
> > > it as "reminiscent of taxprotester rhetoric that has been universally
> > > rejected by this and other courts."
> > > 
> > > Aiello v. Commissioner, T.C. Memo. 1995-40, 69 T.C.M. (CCH) 1765
> > > (1995) - the court rejected the taxpayer's argument that the
> > > only sources of income for purposes of section 61 are listed in 
> > > section 861.
> > > 
> > > Madge v. Commissioner, T.C. Memo. 2000-370, 80 T.C.M. (CCH) 804
> > > (2000) - the court labeled as "frivolous" the position that only
> > > foreign income is taxable.
> > > 
> > > Solomon v. Commissioner, T.C. Memo. 1993-509, 66 T.C.M. (CCH) 1201,
> > > 1202 (1993) - the court rejected the taxpayer's argument that
> > > his income was exempt from tax by operation of sections 861 and 911, 
> > > noting that he had no foreign income and that section 861 provides
> > > that "compensation for labor or personal services performed in the 
> > > United States ... are items of gross income."
> > > 
> > > http://members.fortunecity.com/nvlawman/homeofnvlawman/
> > > 
> > > The bottom line is that if the courts have ruled against the
> > > argument, then attempting to use it CAN be deemed frivolous. The
> > > courts (administrative or judicial) do not exist to make
> > > determinations or rulings on subject matter that has allready been
> > > interpreted. The question you should be asking is were the court
> > > empowered to make a judicial determination?
> > 
> > What you so artfully neglect to mention is that ALL "income tax" cases
> > fall under the maxim of civil law that is found in Louisiana Revised
> > Statute 15-429: "Corporate existence presumed unless affidavit of
> > denial
> > filed before trial. On trial of any criminal case it shall not be 
> > necessary to prove the incorporation of any corporation mentioned in 
> > the indictment, unless the defendant, before entering upon such trial,
> > shall have filed his affidavit specifically denying the existence of 
> > such corporation." 
> > 
> > The judge determines, based upon a lack of statement to the contrary 
> > in the form of an affidavit from the accused prior to the pre-trial 
> > hearing, that the accused is indeed a corporate member of the limited 
> > liability corporation (make-believe ship) called the "UNITED STATES", 
> > and as such is subject to paying tribute (income tax) to that Roman
> > corporation.
> > 
> > So, if the accused in the cases which you cite above were unaware that
> > they had this remedy to defend themselves from being liable to a false
> > (foreign) jurisdiction, then they, of course would suffer the unlawful
> > punishment falsely imposed upon them by the corporation called the
> > UNITED STATES.
> > 
> > Eldon Warman
> > http://www.detaxcanada.org
> 
> Readers,
> 
> Our psycho-svengalli neglects to inform us that this "method" has been
> tried by Richard Fuselier of the so called Common Law Court of
> America. . .and it resulted not only in Fuselier losing, but the
> courts got so tired of Fuselier's constant bullshit that they
> sanctioned him.
> 
> Q

In other words, Rayder is telling you that the United States  is
a full fledged Zionist NAZI Despotism, and the corporate UNITED
STATES judges are totally ignoring the (Common) LAW to which they 
assume doesn't exist or apply to them in their make-believe ship - 
the UNITED STATES.

Hmmmm......

And, I wonder who this Fuselier make-believe character that Rayder 
has obviuosly invented for his damage control diatribes is
supposed to be?

I was originally informed about the Louisiana statute from one
Ray Earnest of Louisiana (Who now apparently lives in Alaska). 
He has a webpage at: http://www.jusbelli.com/

Eldon Warman
http://www.detaxcanada,org


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"SP"  wrote in message news:<07Se9.406$RG2.218430@news20.bellglobal.com>...
> Your've got to wonder why the hell they make it so hard.  Why do we have to
> jump through loops to do what we want?  It should be simple, you pay someone
> and they can pay thier taxes if they want.  It looks like withholding taxes
> is done to reduce the number of people resposible for tax payments and
> therefore make it easier to collect taxes by threatening the smaller group
> of people with jail and fines if they do not withhold.
> 
> I am interested to know how many people would send in a cheque at the end of
> the year if they really had a choice.
> 

You have to understand, SP, that the income tax is a "Mafia protection 
racket". The Government surreptitiously changes your status to slave
of the Crown, then proceeds to milk you of your property (labour and
the money you exchange for your labour). This is a scam that has been
going on in the British system since at least 1300 AD, but is most 
evil since the Zionist income tax came into existence with their 
fiat money (money created out of nothing) around 1913 in the USA,
and 1919 in Canada.

Eldon Warman
http://www.detaxcanada.org


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NELSON MANDELA:
THE UNITED  STATES OF AMERICA IS A THREAT TO WORLD PEACE
Newsweek
September 10, 2002

In a rare interview, the South African demands that George W. Bush 
win United Nations support before attacking Iraq

http://www.msnbc.com/news/806174.asp?cp1=1

Nelson Mandela, 84, may be the world's most respected statesman. 
Sentenced to life in prison on desolate Robben Island in 1964 for 
advocating armed resistance to apartheid in South Africa, the 
African National Congress leader emerged in 1990 to lead his 
country in a transition to non-racial elections. As president, 
his priority was racial reconciliation; today South Africans of 
all races refer to him by his Xhosa clan honorific, Madiba.

Mandela stepped down in 1999 after a single five-year term. He now 
heads two foundations focused on children. He met with NEWSWEEK'S 
Tom Masland early Monday morning in his office in Houghton, a 
Johannesburg suburb, before flying to Limpopo Province to address 
traditional leaders on the country's AIDS crisis.

Excerpts:

NEWSWEEK: Why are you speaking out on Iraq? Do you want to mediate, 
as you tried to on the Mideast a couple of years ago? It seems you 
are reentering the fray now.

NELSON MANDELA: If I am asked, by credible organizations, to mediate, 
I will consider that very seriously. But a situation of this nature 
does not need an individual, it needs an organization like the 
United Nations to mediate.

We must understand the seriousness of this situation. The United 
States has made serious mistakes in the conduct of its foreign 
affairs, which have had unfortunate repercussions long after the 
decisions were taken. Unqualified support of the Shah of Iran led 
directly to the Islamic revolution of 1979.

Then the United States chose to arm and finance the [Islamic] 
mujahedin in Afghanistan instead of supporting and encouraging the 
moderate wing of the government of Afghanistan. That is what led 
to the Taliban in Afghanistan.

But the most catastrophic action of the United States was to 
sabotage the decision that was painstakingly stitched together by 
the United Nations regarding the withdrawal of the Soviet Union 
>from Afghanistan. If you look at those matters, you will come to 
the conclusion that the attitude of the United States of America 
is a threat to world peace. Because what [America] is saying is 
that if you are afraid of a veto in the Security Council, you can 
go outside and take action and violate the sovereignty of other 
countries. That is the message they are sending to the world. 
That must be condemned in the strongest terms. And you will notice 
that France, Germany Russia, China are against this decision. 

It is clearly a decision that is motivated by George W. Bush's desire 
to please the arms and oil industries in the United States of America.
If you look at those factors, you'll see that an individual like 
myself, a man who has lost power and influence, can never be a 
suitable mediator.

NEWSWEEK: What about the argument that's being made about the threat 
of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction and Saddam's efforts to build 
a nuclear weapons. After all, he has invaded other countries, he has 
fired missiles at Israel. On Thursday, President Bush is going to 
stand up in front of the United Nations and point to what he says 
is evidence of...

NELSON MANDELA: Scott Ritter, a former United Nations arms inspector 
who is in Baghdad, has said that there is no evidence whatsoever of
[development of weapons of] mass destruction. Neither Bush nor
[British Prime Minister] Tony Blair has provided any evidence that 
such weapons exist. But what we know is that Israel has weapons of 
mass destruction. Nobody talks about that. Why should there be one 
standard for one country, especially because it is black, and another 
one for another country, Israel, that is white.

NEWSWEEK: So you see this as a racial question?

NELSON MANDELA: Well, that element is there. In fact, many people 
say quietly, but they don't have the courage to stand up and say 
publicly, that when there were white secretary generals you didn't 
find this question of the United States and Britain going out of 
the United Nations. But now that you've had black secretary generals 
like Boutros Boutros Ghali, like Kofi Annan, they do not respect the 
United Nations. They have contempt for it. This is not my view, but 
that is what is being said by many people.

NEWSWEEK: What kind of compromise can you see that might avoid 
the coming confrontation?

NELSON MANDELA: There is one compromise and one only, and that is 
the United Nations. If the United States and Britain go to the 
United Nations and the United Nations says we have concrete evidence 
of the existence of these weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and 
we feel that we must do something about it, we would all support it.

NEWSWEEK: Do you think that the Bush administration's U.N. 
diplomatic effort now is genuine, or is the President just looking 
for political cover by speaking to the U.N. even as he remains 
intent on forging ahead unilaterally?

NELSON MANDELA: Well, there is no doubt that the United States now 
feels that they are the only superpower in the world and they can 
do what they like. And of course we must consider the men and the 
women around the president. Gen. Colin Powell commanded the United 
States army in peacetime and in wartime during the Gulf war. He 
knows the disastrous effect of international tension and war, when 
innocent people are going to die, young men are going to die. He 
knows and he showed this after September 11 last year. He went 
around briefing the allies of the United States of America and 
asking for their support for the war in Afghanistan. But people 
like Dick Cheney - I see yesterday there was an article that said 
he is the real president of the United States of America, I don't 
know how true that is. Dick Cheney, [Defense secretary Donald] 
Rumsfeld, they are people who are unfortunately misleading the 
president. Because my impression of the president is that this 
is a man with whom you can do business. But it is the men who 
around him who are dinosaurs, who do not want him to belong to 
the modern age. The only man, the only person who wants to help 
Bush move to the modern era is Gen. Colin Powell, the secretary 
of State.

NEWSWEEK: I gather you are particularly concerned about Vice 
President Cheney?

NELSON MANDELA: Well, there is no doubt. He opposed the decision 
to release me from prison (laughs). The majority of the U.S. 
Congress was in favor of my release, and he opposed it. But it's 
not because of that. Quite clearly we are dealing with an arch-
conservative in Dick Cheney.

NEWSWEEK: I'm interested in your decision to speak out now about 
Iraq. When you left office, you said, "I'm going to go down to 
Transkei, and have a rest." Now maybe that was a joke at the time. 
But you've been very active.

NELSON MANDELA: I really wanted to retire and rest and spend more 
time with my children, my grandchildren and of course with my wife. 
But the problems are such that for anybody with a conscience who 
can use whatever influence he may have to try to bring about peace, 
it's difficult to say no.  Unquote

From:    http://www.msnbc.com/news/806174.asp?cp1=1

Posted by:

Eldon Warman   Calgary


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nospam  wrote in message news:...
> Hello,
> 
> If I form an IBC in Barbados that sells software on the Internet, and the 
> machines doing the marketing, sales, and delivery of the goods over the 
> Internet are in Barbados is the IBC a Canadian resident corporation if the 
> management resides in Canada?
> 
> Thanks.

You would want the IBC management (corporate officers) to be people 
in Barbados - usually within the law firm that set up the IBC. 
You (in Canada) would just be an agent with all authority over money 
matters. If the IBC is doing business in Canada, it would be registered 
in the applicable Province(s) for the sole purpose of having an address 
where legal papers could be served, as a province has no authority as a 
legal person outside of its own borders. This should not qualify the
IBC as a Canadian resident - the local address is only a mailbox in 
which someone representing the province can file papers.

Eldon Warman
http://www.detaxcanada.org


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kmcvay@vex.net (Ken McVay) wrote in message news:...
-- 
"...the antisemite is immune to refutation from either facts or logic.
  An antisemite has chosen to live in hatred, without regard to either
                 facts or logic." (Matas, David. Bloody Speech, p. 37)
                             The Nizkor Project: http://www.nizkor.org

Or, for the real truth of the matter, based upon the fact that 
Palestinians are SEMITES, and that the majority of Talmudists
(so-called Jews) are a finno-turk people (Khazars) who have never 
had an ancestor from the lands of the true Semite people:
-- 
"...the Zionist Jew (antisemite) is immune to refutation from either 
facts or logic.  A Zionist Jew (antisemite) has chosen to live in 
hatred, without regard to either facts or logic." 

http://www.geocities.com/proutyuk/deejay_2002

Eldon Warman


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majorquantrell3@hotmail.com (Quantrell) wrote in message news:...
> egwarman@outgun.com (EG Warman) wrote in message news:<2005a7f1.0209050701.c7d5f4@posting.google.com>...
> > majorquantrell3@hotmail.com (Quantrell) wrote in message news:...
> > > egwarman@outgun.com (EG Warman) wrote in message news:<2005a7f1.0209041907.54bfb283@posting.google.com>...
> > > > majorquantrell3@hotmail.com (Quantrell) wrote in message news:...
> > > > > Readers,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Invented word meanings. . .edited definitions. . .inapplicable case
> > > > > law. . .altered wording of court decisions. . .logical fallacies. .
> > > > > .misrepresentations of  historical fact. . .misrepresentations of 
> > > > > legal theory and philosophies. . . .
> > > > > 
> > > > > All are pollution in the River of Deceit, which flows from detaxers.
> > > > > 
> > > > > You see it is easier for the detaxer to lie about the real world then
> > > > > for him to except the truth about himself.
> > > > > 
> > > > > What the detaxer seeks, through negativistic, hostile, and defiant
> > > > > behavior, is to disconnect himself from the authority of the larger
> > > > > society. The detaxer's rage brings about impairments in social,
> > > > > academic, or occupational functioning which, commensurate with the
> > > > > detaxer's propensity for denial, is used to place the blame for his
> > > > > own mistakes and misbehaviors on others.
> > > > > 
> > > > > And so the cycle of dysfunctionality spins like a whirlpool in a
> > > > > raging river.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hence the detaxer reasons that he is not responsible for punching a
> > > > > traffic cop because it was really the cop's fault for enforcing
> > > > > "Roman" law in the first place. Nor does he reason that his financial
> > > > > state is his responsibility. . .it is the fault of Jewish banksters.
> > > > > Likewise he reasons that the dismissal of his fanciful legal theories
> > > > > is really the product of a conspiracy amongst "blacked robed" judges
> > > > > who the detaxer fancies fears him.
> > > > > 
> > > > > And so the River of Deceit flows on fed by the tributaries of the
> > > > > detaxer's own dysfunctionality.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Q
> > > > 
> > > > And, all this grand bit of wisdom is brought to you by a Zionist
> > > > goon who names himself after a vicious mass murder of the Civil
> > > > War days when ignorant Americans were led to the slaughter by
> > > > the Zionists - but even those killing fields were not enough
> > > > to satisfy the blood lust of Rayder's mentor - the sadistic 
> > > > psycopath, Quantrell.
> > > > 
> > > > Isn't it amazing that this JERK spends so much time on this NG 
> > > > attempting to defend his Zionist Bankster masters' evil scheme 
> > > > of making Canadians (and Americans) impoverished tax slaves to 
> > > > his Masters and their fake money system. If it were ONLY just
> > > > power greed; but, it is more... These people are bent on 
> > > > destroying our country and mass murdering the Canadian People.
> > > > (Thus, the choice by Austin Rayder of the pseudonym "Quantrell".
> > > > 
> > > > From who's mouth flows "the river of deceit"?????
> > > > 
> > > > Eldon Warman
> > > > http://www.detaxcanada.org
> > > 
> > > Q) I forgot to mention that detaxers have no sense of irony and will
> > > often wittlessly reply so as prove the very point their opponent has
> > > made.
> > 
> > It's a very dull point on a twisted arrow.....
> > 
> > I would say your point has always reached its mark - telling
> > Canadians (and Americans) that there are arch-traitors out there
> > like you, who HATE America, and who HATE free men everywhere. 
> > You certainly exhibit the FACT that the evil of Zionism and its 
> > schemes are not just the clatter of "conspiracy theorists" and 
> > "anti-semites" (whatever the Hell that is? - Since, it seems
> > that the RAVUNG anti-semites of this world are the non-Hebrew 
> > Khazar Jews and the idiot fundamentalist Christians within the 
> > USA who HATE Arabs - the true Semites).
> > 
> > Eldon Warman
> 
> Eldon,
> 
> You are one sick old fart. You prove my point that you are crazy by
> acting crazy!
> 
> LOL!!!!!
> 
> You are so out of it that you post with a straight face the lie that I
> don't love my country or the freedoms it recognizes. I can end that
> lie's life by presenting you with the challenge I have offered you
> several times (each time you have run or come up short):
> 
> I challenge you (not your lackeys) to find one word I have posted
> which in any way speaks against the freedoms enshrined in the
> Constitution or Bill of Rights.
> 
> I challenge you prove I am a Zionist.
> 
> You are in trouble here, psychoboy, because each time you dig down in
> your bag of schizophrenic delusions I plan to call you on in.
> 
> Q

Yes, Rayder... I know that you have only one vice, as you so
frequently tell us here on this NG.. and that vice, of course,
is that you are a liar. Maybe you should go to the New Testament 
and read about your Zionist heritage - find it in Matthew CH. 23.

Eldon Warman
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"Scott Narter"  wrote in message news:<11nd9.47683$Ic7.3479899@news2.west.cox.net>...
> B. Contention: Only foreign-source income is taxable.
> 
> Some maintain that there is no federal statute imposing a tax on
> income derived from sources within the United States by citizens 
> or residents of the United States. They argue instead that federal 
> income taxes are excise taxes imposed only on nonresident aliens 
> and foreign corporations for the privilege of receiving income 
> from sources within the United States. The premise for this argument 
> is a misreading of sections 861, et seq., and 911, et seq., as well 
> as the regulations under those sections.
> 
> The Law: As stated above, for federal income tax purposes, "gross
> income" means all income from whatever source derived and includes
> compensation for services. I.R.C. § 61. Further, Treasury
> Regulation § 1.1-1(b) provides, "[i]n general, all citizens of the 
> United States, wherever resident, and all resident alien individuals 
> are liable to the income taxes imposed by the Code whether the income 
> is received from sources within or without the United States." I.R.C.
> sections 861 and 911
> -6-
> define the sources of income (U.S. versus non-U.S. source income) for
> such purposes as the prevention of double taxation of income that is
> subject to tax by more than one country. These sections neither
> specify whether income is taxable, nor do they determine or define 
> gross income.
> Further, these frivolous assertions are clearly contrary to well-
> established legal precedent.
> 
> Relevant Case Law:
> 
> Williams v. Commissioner, 114 T.C. 136, 138 (2000) - the court
> rejected the taxpayer's argument that his income was not from any 
> of the sources listed in Treas. Reg. § 1.861-8(a), characterizing 
> it as "reminiscent of taxprotester rhetoric that has been universally
> rejected by this and other courts."
> 
> Aiello v. Commissioner, T.C. Memo. 1995-40, 69 T.C.M. (CCH) 1765
> (1995) - the court rejected the taxpayer's argument that the
> only sources of income for purposes of section 61 are listed in 
> section 861.
> 
> Madge v. Commissioner, T.C. Memo. 2000-370, 80 T.C.M. (CCH) 804
> (2000) - the court labeled as "frivolous" the position that only
> foreign income is taxable.
> 
> Solomon v. Commissioner, T.C. Memo. 1993-509, 66 T.C.M. (CCH) 1201,
> 1202 (1993) - the court rejected the taxpayer's argument that
> his income was exempt from tax by operation of sections 861 and 911, 
> noting that he had no foreign income and that section 861 provides
> that "compensation for labor or personal services performed in the 
> United States ... are items of gross income."
> 
> http://members.fortunecity.com/nvlawman/homeofnvlawman/
> 
> The bottom line is that if the courts have ruled against the
> argument, then attempting to use it CAN be deemed frivolous. The
> courts (administrative or judicial) do not exist to make
> determinations or rulings on subject matter that has allready been
> interpreted. The question you should be asking is were the court
> empowered to make a judicial determination?

What you so artfully neglect to mention is that ALL "income tax" cases
fall under the maxim of civil law that is found in Louisiana Revised
Statute 15-429: "Corporate existence presumed unless affidavit of
denial
filed before trial. On trial of any criminal case it shall not be 
necessary to prove the incorporation of any corporation mentioned in 
the indictment, unless the defendant, before entering upon such trial,
shall have filed his affidavit specifically denying the existence of 
such corporation." 

The judge determines, based upon a lack of statement to the contrary 
in the form of an affidavit from the accused prior to the pre-trial 
hearing, that the accused is indeed a corporate member of the limited 
liability corporation (make-believe ship) called the "UNITED STATES", 
and as such is subject to paying tribute (income tax) to that Roman
corporation.

So, if the accused in the cases which you cite above were unaware that
they had this remedy to defend themselves from being liable to a false
(foreign) jurisdiction, then they, of course would suffer the unlawful
punishment falsely imposed upon them by the corporation called the
UNITED STATES.

Eldon Warman
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majorquantrell3@hotmail.com (Quantrell) wrote in message news:...
> Readers,
> 
> You may have asked how detaxers deal with the messes they are making
> of their lives?
> 
> Answer: they use the powerful psychological defense mechanisms of
> denial, projection and splitting.
> 
> Denial is a psychological defense mechanism, which operates to protect
> one from uncomfortable or unacceptable self-awareness. Denial is a
> complex process whereby we admit conscious knowledge of events but
> somehow fail to feel their emotional impact or see their logical
> consequences.
> 
> Almost everyone nowadays knows what it means to say that someone is
> "in denial." We see it in the alcoholic who tells himself  "I can quit
> any time I want to." but doesn't and fails to recognize the impact of
> his drinking on himself and those around him. Denial operates in other
> circumstances as well. . .after the death of a loved one, we often
> find ourselves thinking temporarily as if that person is still a part
> of our lives.
> 
> Likewise the detaxers among us struggle with the all to evident
> reality that not only does their method not work but also it has
> caused its users, their families, friends and co-workers pain and
> anguish.
> 
> How can Eldon deal with the death of his wife, who driven to despair
> by his madness took her life?
> 
> He uses denial and its cousin, the powerful,destructive tool
> projection, whereby he takes unacceptable parts of himself and
> attributes them to others.  In this case he says the IRS killed his
> wife knowing deep down that he played a central role in her death. The
> use of projection in a few detaxers, like Eldon, lapses into paranoid
> schizophrenia which is characterized by delusions of persecution and
> personal grandeur.
> 
> Splitting is mechanism also used by all the detaxers, but StaR is its
> most exemplary user. Splitting is a complex defense mechanism in which
> others are seen as either all good or all bad, and thus to blame for
> all one's own misery.  Detaxers see their psycho svengalli, Eldon as a
> rescuing source of strength whereas his debunkers are the evil
> Zionists  commies.
> 
> To be in any sort of close relationship with a splitter is extremely
> confusing because the good/bad roles frequently reverse and often one
> is not sure where one stands. Splitters can wreak havoc in groups
> because they tend to get others to play out their assigned roles and
> no one is permitted to be merely human, a combination of good and bad.
> 
> This explains the frequent falling outs among some detaxers who go so
> far as the claim that former colleagues are traitors or government
> agents.
> 
> I hope the reader will keep these defense mechanisms in mind as they
> confront detaxers with the all too clear reality that their tricks
> don't work.
> 
> Q


Hmmm.... And the readers of this NG are supposed to accept this
diatribe of one who takes the pseudonym of the mass murderer
Quantrell - a man who delighted in disemboweling his fellow 
Americans - slaughtering helpless men, women and children like
any mad "jack the ripper". 

How dumb do you think the readers of this NG are, Rayder?

Eldon Warman
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Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 7:37 AM
Subject: How Barbaric is Israel, Mr Blair?

Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:34:57 -0800

"...THIS SECTION SHALL NOT APPLY TO CITIZENS OF....ISRAEL"....  
Why are Jews in America allowed to make false affidavits?"

Just a question or two to the deranged boarder at Downing Street...

From: olga scully
Prime Minister Blair,
This morning I heard you say that Iraq is a BARBARIC nation and 
you claim the moral right to attack Iraq.

Amnesty International tells us that every year thousands of young 
women are kidnapped and locked up in brothels in the Jewish state. 
They are sex-slaves. They are raped twenty times a day and they 
suffer unspeakable humiliation, disease and forced use of drugs. 
These poor, naked captives are bought and sold at auctions and 
become the property of the pimps who buy them.

MR BLAIR, IS THIS NOT BARBARIC?

Have you requested international inspection of Israeli brothels?  
Have you requested international inspection of Israel's atomic bomb 
sites? Have you requested international inspection of Israel's NERVE
GAS factories? How racist are you, Mr. Blair?

Mr. Blair, you know very well that in October 1992 an Israeli EL AL 
Boeing 747 crashed in Amsterdam. That jet was carrying huge quantities 
of the components required for the manufacture of SARIN NERVE GAS.

IS THIS NOT BARBARIC, MR. BLAIR, TO PRODUCE NERVE GAS FOR MASS 
DESTRUCTION?

Under American law (Title 15, Commerce and Trade) there is a 
prohibition on collecting and releasing detailed satellite imagery 
relating to Israel. Do you think ISRAEL has something to hide, 
Mr. Blair? Also, Under Title 05 in American Law (Government
Organisation,Employees) it says: "that any person making a false 
affidavit shall be guilty of a felony and shall be fined or 
imprisoned...THIS SECTION SHALL NOT APPLY TO CITIZENS OF....
ISRAEL"....  Why are Jews in America allowed to make false 
affidavits?

Poster's note: Because of the Kol Nidre prayer at Yom Kypur.
By reciting this prayer, all oaths, vows and pledges are
made void - so a sworn affidavit means nothing to a Jew.

Was it not BARBARIC for the Jewish military to attack the USS 
LIBERTY in 1968? This was peaceful American vessel, which the Jews 
tried to sink with nearly 300 men on board. The Jews killed 34 of
their American allies, wounded another 171 with napalm, rockets, 
machine gun shells and torpedoes. Is it not BARBARIC to 
deliberately attack one's allies in international waters, 
Mr. Blair?

Iraq, by comparison, is a peaceful nation, but you want to bomb it. 
Meanwhile the aggressive State of Israel has ignored more than 100 
United Nations resolutions and you don't care, do you Mr Blair?

What retaliation will your British people suffer?
Will you put on an army uniform and fight for justice in the Middle 
East? Or will you send your British youth to fight a war for the 
control of oil that you and Bush want so desperately?

Total monopoly of oil is the name of your hypocritical game, not 
peace or goodwill to all nations.  Unquote

Posted by:

Eldon Warman


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Yes, Americans, you can forget the Declaration of Independence

    "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are 
    created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with 
    certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty 
    and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, 
    Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just 
    powers from the consent of the governed, --"

and the Bill of Rights

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, 
or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom 
of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably 
to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of 
grievances.

Amendment II

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free 
State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be 
infringed.

Amendment III

No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without 
the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be 
prescribed by law.

Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers,
and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be 
violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, 
supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the 
place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Amendment V

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous
crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except 
in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when 
in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any
person
be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life 
or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness 
against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property,
without
due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public
use,
without just compensation.

Amendment VI

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a 
speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and
district
wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have
been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature 
and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses 
against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in 
his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

Amendment VII

In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed 
twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and 
no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any Court 
of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.

Amendment VIII

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, 
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

Amendment IX

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not 
be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, 
nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States 
respectively, or to the people.
************************************************************

This is ALL you have NOW folks:
************************************************************

Overview of Changes to Legal Rights
By The Associated Press

September 5, 2002, 11:44 AM EDT

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-sept-
11-legal-rights-glance0905sep05.story 

Some of the fundamental changes to Americans' legal rights by the 
Bush administration and the USA Patriot Act following the terror 
attacks: 

* FREEDOM OF ASSOCIATION: Government may monitor religious and 
political institutions without suspecting criminal activity to 
assist terror investigation. 

* FREEDOM OF INFORMATION: Government has closed once-public 
immigration hearings, has secretly detained hundreds of people 
without charges, and has encouraged bureaucrats to resist public 
records requests. 

* FREEDOM OF SPEECH: Government may prosecute librarians or keepers 
of any other records if they tell anyone that the government 
subpoenaed information related to a terror investigation. 

* RIGHT TO LEGAL REPRESENTATION: Government may monitor federal 
prison jailhouse conversations between attorneys and clients, and 
deny lawyers to Americans accused of crimes. 

* FREEDOM FROM UNREASONABLE SEARCHES: Government may search and 
seize Americans' papers and effects without probable cause to assist 
terror investigation. 

* RIGHT TO A SPEEDY AND PUBLIC TRIAL: Government may jail Americans
indefinitely without a trial.

* RIGHT TO LIBERTY: Americans may be jailed without being charged or 
being able to confront witnesses against them. 

Copyright © 2002, The Associated Press 

Posted by:

Eldon Warman


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A  FOREIGN AUTHORITY ISSUES SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS 
Summary so far: You owe absolute allegiance to your ‘federal' lord 
for ANY of the following legal reasons: 

·         Protection draws subjection.  

·         The Buck Act  extends federal jurisdiction to anyone 
          receiving federal funds.  

·         The doctrine of Tacit Procuration grants them the power of 
          attorney. 

·         You enriched yourself at others' expense, thereby creating 
          an obligation, per the definition of  "constructive 
          contract".

·         You claimed that you were eligible for benefits available 
          only to wards of a foreign welfare program.  According to 
          James Madison it "is an absurdity" to claim that the 
          Constitution allows any federal benefits to the common man. 

·         You voluntarily claimed citizenship within your federal 
          government. (Kitchens case)  Thereby giving up your natural 
          rights.

·         Taxes (and along with it, the brutal force needed to collect) 
          are legal if you applied for a government benefit "for which 
          it can ask a return." (Supreme Court's Murdock case).

·         You have a government fictitious (intended to deceive) all
          capitalized name on your ID cards. They are not even allowed 
          to address you by your Christian name.

·         By claiming to be a US resident, rather than an inhabitant, 
          you've agreed to remain on your lord's plantation.  

·         Even the definition of `allegiance' proves that you have
          an "Obligation of fidelity and obedience" to your federal 
          lord.  

·         You cannot even challenge jurisdiction once you avail yourself 
          of any benefits.  (Supreme Court's Ashwander case).

·         They own the equitable rights to your labor, you pledged 
          yourself as collateral.

·         Your status is irrevocable. 

·         The legal doctrine of solutio indebiti  now requires you to 
          pay taxes not owed,

·         The Social Security Act  Title VIII section 801 requires you 
          to pay Social Security AND OTHER TAXES, and

·         Obey your masters (Ephesians 6:5 , Colossians 3:22 , Titus 
          2:9 , 1st Peter 2 :18 )

Now you're ready for the bad news.   

The takeover of the world is now complete.  The foreign takeover of 
America is now complete.  Your federal government went bankrupt and 
was surrendered to a foreign creditor in 1933, and ceased all operations.  
Your federal government now acts ONLY as agents of their foreign masters.  
You owe absolute allegiance to your foreign owners.  The two-horned 
second Beast that issues SSNs was revealed when the US government went 
bankrupt in 1933.

You have already volunteered into this system.  It is already a done 
deal. It is irrelevant that President Bush, the elder, told the UN that 
the New World Order was America's goal.  It is irrelevant that Clinton's 
1993 national security directive declared its intent to put U.S. troops 
under UN command.

Read the rest of the BAD NEWS here:

http://familyguardian.tzo.com/Publications/SocialSecurity/Chap17.htm

Posted by:

Eldon Warman


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Yes, Iraq has weapons of mass destruction.

Saddam could lead the American soldiers out into the vast deserts
of IRAQ and let them die of thirst.

Saddam could allow American troops move into Baghdad, and let them
starve to death like the Iraqi people are now doing.

Saddam could allow American troops to occupy Iraq and let them die 
of the myriad of diseases that are rampant among the Iraqi people
because they have been denied medicine and health care.

Yes, Saddam, and the Iraqi people need to be obliterated because 
they may be able to develop space ships and phasar weapons within
the next 500 years. They are truly a dangerous lot - and their 
rotting bodies will add greatly to the OIL pool under Iraq that 
is so coveted by Israel, the true masters of America - the puppet.

Eldon Warman
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majorquantrell3@hotmail.com (Quantrell) wrote in message news:...
> Readers,
> 
> The plain fact of law is that the U.S. federal courts receive their
> jurisdiction not from some detax contract mumbo jumbo, but from
> Article III, section 2 of the Constitution:
> 
> "The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity,
> arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and
> Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority;--to all
> Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public ministers and Consuls;--to
> all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction;--to Controversies to
> which the United States shall be a Party;--to Controversies between
> two or more States;--between a State and Citizens of another
> State;--between Citizens of different States;--between Citizens of the
> same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and
> between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens
> or Subjects."
> 
> "In all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and
> Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party, the supreme Court
> shall have original Jurisdiction. In all the other Cases before
> mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both
> as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations
> as the Congress shall make."
> 
> Congress receives its authority from Article I, section 7, and
> especially section 8:
> 
> "The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes [readers will
> note that this runs counter to the Warman claim that the government
> can't tax without the individual's consent], Duties, Imposts and
> Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and
> general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and
> Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;"
> 
> "To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;"
> 
> "To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several
> States, and with the Indian Tribes;"
> 
> "To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on
> the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;"
> 
> "To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and
> fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;"
> 
> "To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and
> current Coin of the United States;"
> 
> "To establish Post Offices and post Roads;" 
> 
> "To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for
> limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their
> respective Writings and Discoveries;"
> 
> "To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;"
> 
> "To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high
> Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;"
> 
> "To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules
> concerning Captures on Land and Water;"
> 
> "To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that
> Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;"
> 
> "To provide and maintain a Navy;" 
> 
> "To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval
> Forces;"
> 
> "To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the
> Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;"
> 
> "To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and
> for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of
> the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the
> Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia
> according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;"
> 
> "To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such
> District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of
> Particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of
> the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority
> over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the
> State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts,
> Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards and other needful Buildings;--And"
> 
> "To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying
> into Execution the foregoing Powers and all other Powers vested by
> this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any
> Department or Officer thereof."
> 
> So we see that the authority of the legislative and judicial branches
> of American government come from the straightforward language of the
> Constitution, not from the fanciful musings of detax loonies.
> 
> Q

This is all just claptrap bullshit of a stinking Zionist propagandist!

The US constituition is just a big piece of PHONY BALONEY!

It was NEVER ratified by the People of the united States of America.

It had absolutely no value as a constitution beyond the people who
wrote it - when they died, so did it cease to be of any force or
effect. 

For those Americans who are so ignorant as to believe this bullshit
put out by this Zionist TRAITOR, Austin Rayder of louisville KY, may 
I suggest you spend some time reading the information provided by 
Lysander Spooner, a Boston lawyer, from back in the 1870 period.
You may be thoroughly shocked at what you read - it seems that the 
only way you're going to get the big picture is by "tough love".

http://www.fourmilab.com/etexts/www/NoTreason/NoTreason.html

For God's Sake! Wake UP! Americans. You are being sucked into a 
war, and a financial debacle that is going to DESTROY America.

Eldon Warman
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"Zoti"  wrote in message news:<3d86e47c$1_1@nopics.sjc>...
> Eldon,
> 
> You sound like 1970s Egyptian propaganda. Grow up.
> 
> The Zionists are here to concur the world HA HA HA HA HA !!!!! (Evil Laugh)
> 
> 
Pray tell, who then is murdering the Palestinians and unlawfully
confiscating their anciently held lands - if not the Zionist Jews
- an evil Asian tribe which has absolutely no right or claim to 
the Middle East?

Who is prodding the ignorant Americans into stealing the oil
of Iraq and pretty likely Iran - if NOT the Zionist Jews within
the US government by and for the Zionist Jews of Israel?

I know Americans are pretty ignorant and stupid; however, I'm sure
there are a few who know what the Zionists are doing to America and
the World.

Eldon Warman
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"Roger R."  wrote in message news:<4Zzh9.18638$q%6.979539044@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>...
> "EG Warman"  wrote in message
> news:2005a7f1.0209162034.6c0b5ee9@posting.google.com...
> >
> > This is all just claptrap bullshit of a stinking Zionist propagandist!
> >
> > The US constituition is just a big piece of PHONY BALONEY!
> >
> > It was NEVER ratified by the People of the united States of America.
> >
> > It had absolutely no value as a constitution beyond the people who
> > wrote it - when they died, so did it cease to be of any force or
> > effect.
> 
> Gee - then all the functions of the government based on that Constitution
> don't exist? 

CORRECT!

The Pres isn't Commander in Chief of the military? 

DOUBLY CORRECT! You have been totally duped.

> The IRS doesn't collect the taxes that the congress has passed? 

CORRECT! It collects TRIBUTE for the banksters of the City of London
>from a bankrupt corporation called the UNITED STATES, which in turn 
hoodwinks Americans into being corporate "members" (calling them US 
citizens - Roman slave) of that phony corporation, and extracts their 
slave labour in the form of the fruits of their labour (income tax), 
the phony money called Federal Reserve bankruptcy script. 

> There was no Civil War, 

CORRECT! It was just a rape of the gold from the southern states 
to pay off the Rothschild banksters of the City of London so that
the bankrupcy could be extended for another 70 years (international 
bankrupcy) - which brought the corporate UNITED STATES through to
the early 1930's - when the People of the USA were pledged as 
collateral in bankrupcy for the next 70 year period.

Now, to continue the bankrupcy for the next 70 years, the USA
must be turned over to the New World Order government and the USA's
guns used to confiscate the world supply of oil for the New World 
Order banksters of the City of London. Bush and Clinton have done
the former, eliminating even the sham of a constitution, and now
Bush is about to use US guns and troops to accomplish the latter,
by confiscating Iraq, Saudi and Iran, and likely Libyian oil.

WW I, WW II 

CORRECT! It was a scheme by the Zionists (orchestrated by the 
Jesuit Zionists and the Zionist Jew banksters of the City of London) 
to gain stronger financial control of Europe and America,

> and Timothy McVeigh wan't put to death for his horrendous
> crime in Oklahoma City? 

CORRECT! There is a 99% chance that the body that was so quickly 
cremated was that of a street derelict. Witnesses later testified
that they were usured out of the viewing room, and McVeigh appeared
to only have been drugged. Very competent explosive experts have 
testified that the damage done to the Murrah building was NOT the
result of a fertilizer bomb exploded on the street. Again, you
stupid Americans seem to buy any malarkey which the Zionist 
controlled American government wishes to feed to you.

> All this because the guys who signed the Constitution have died 
> and left nothing behind?

Correct!  I didn't come to this conclusion - the Boston lawyer,
Lysander Spooner came to that conclusion in 1870:

http://www.fourmilab.com/etexts/www/NoTreason/NoTreason_chap1.html

"The Constitution has no inherent authority or obligation. It has no 
authority or obligation at all, unless as a contract between man and 
man. And it does not so much as even purport to be a contract between 
persons now existing. It purports, at most, to be only a contract 
between persons living eighty years ago. And it can be supposed to 
have been a contract then only between persons who had already come 
to years of discretion, so as to be competent to make reasonable and 
obligatory contracts. Furthermore, we know, historically, that only 
a small portion even of the people then existing were consulted on 
the subject, or asked, or permitted to express either their consent 
or dissent in any formal manner. Those persons, if any, who did give 
their consent formally, are all dead now. Most of them have been dead 
forty, fifty, sixty, or seventy years. And the Constitution, so far 
as it was their contract, died with them. They had no natural power 
or right to make it obligatory upon their children. It is not only 
plainly impossible, in the nature of things, that they could bind 
their posterity, but they did not even attempt to bind them. That 
is to say, the instrument does not purport to be an agreement between 
any body but "the people" then existing; nor does it, either expressly
or impliedly, assert any right, power, or disposition, on their part, 
to bind anybody but themselves. Let us see. Its language is: 

We, the people of the United States (that is, the people then existing
in the United States), in order to form a more perfect union, insure 
domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the 
general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves 
and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the 
United States of America.

It is plain, in the first place, that this language, as an agreement, 
purports to be only what it at most really was, viz., a contract 
between the people then existing; and, of necessity, binding, as a 
contract, only upon those then existing. In the second place, the 
language neither expresses nor implies that they had any intention 
or desire, nor that they imagined they had any right or power, to 
bind their "posterity" to live under it. It does not say that their 
"posterity" will, shall, or must live under it. It only says, in 
effect, that their hopes and motives in adopting it were that it 
might prove useful to their posterity, as well as to themselves, by 
promoting their union, safety, tranquility, liberty, etc. 

Suppose an agreement were entered into, in this form: 

We, the people of Boston, agree to maintain a fort on Governor's 
Island, to protect ourselves and our posterity against invasion. 

This agreement, as an agreement, would clearly bind nobody but the 
people then existing. Secondly, it would assert no right, power, or
disposition, on their part, to compel their "posterity" to maintain
such a fort. It would only indicate that the supposed welfare of 
their posterity was one of the motives that induced the original 
parties to enter into the agreement. 

When a man says he is building a house for himself and his posterity, 
he does not mean to be understood as saying that he has any thought 
of binding them, nor is it to be inferred that he is so foolish as to 
imagine that he has any right or power to bind them, to live in it. 
So far as they are concerned, he only means to be understood as saying
that his hopes and motives, in building it, are that they, or at least
some of them, may find it for their happiness to live in it. 

So when a man says he is planting a tree for himself and his
posterity,
he does not mean to be understood as saying that he has any thought of
compelling them, nor is it to be inferred that he is such a simpleton
as to imagine that he has any right or power to compel them, to eat 
the fruit. So far as they are concerned, he only means to say that 
his hopes and motives, in planting the tree, are that its fruit may 
be agreeable to them. 

So it was with those who originally adopted the Constitution. Whatever
may have been their personal intentions, the legal meaning of their 
language, so far as their "posterity" was concerned, simply was, that 
their hopes and motives, in entering into the agreement, were that it 
might prove useful and acceptable to their posterity; that it might 
promote their union, safety, tranquility, and welfare; and that it 
might tend "to secure to them the blessings of liberty." The language 
does not assert nor at all imply, any right, power, or disposition, 
on the part of the original parties to the agreement, to compel their
"posterity" to live under it. If they had intended to bind their
posterity to live under it, they should have said that their object
was, not "to secure to them the blessings of liberty," but to make 
slaves of them; for if their "posterity" are bound to live under it, 
they are nothing less than the slaves of their foolish, tyrannical, 
and dead grandfathers. 

It cannot be said that the Constitution formed "the people of the 
United States," for all time, into a corporation. It does not speak 
of "the people" as a corporation, but as individuals. A corporation 
does not describe itself as "we," nor as "people," nor as "ourselves."
Nor does a corporation, in legal language, have any "posterity." It 
supposes itself to have, and speaks of itself as having, perpetual 
existence, as a single individuality. 

Moreover, no body of men, existing at any one time, have the power 
to create a perpetual corporation. A corporation can become 
practically perpetual only by the voluntary accession of new members, 
as the old ones die off. But for this voluntary accession of new 
members, the corporation necessarily dies with the death of those 
who originally composed it. 

Legally speaking, therefore, there is, in the Constitution, nothing 
that professes or attempts to bind the "posterity" of those who 
established it. 

If, then, those who established the Constitution, had no power to
bind,
and did not attempt to bind, their posterity, the question arises, 
whether their posterity have bound themselves. If they have done so, 
they can have done so in only one or both of these two ways, viz., 
by voting, and paying taxes. Unquote

> 
> As nearly as I can tell, Canada has given the U.S. cold fronts, 
> William Shatner, The Red Green show, half the new TV shows on 
> UPN network, and Eldon Warman.
> 
> The trend is clearly downward into pure idiocy.
> 
And, you obviously clearly demonstrate that trend by your ignorance,
or your sleaze, as the case may be.

> > For those Americans who are so ignorant as to believe this bullshit
> > put out by this Zionist TRAITOR, Austin Rayder of louisville KY, may
> > I suggest you spend some time reading the information provided by
> > Lysander Spooner, a Boston lawyer, from back in the 1870 period.
> > You may be thoroughly shocked at what you read - it seems that the
> > only way you're going to get the big picture is by "tough love".
> >
> > http://www.fourmilab.com/etexts/www/NoTreason/NoTreason.html
> >
> > For God's Sake! Wake UP! Americans. You are being sucked into a
> > war, and a financial debacle that is going to DESTROY America.
> >
> > Eldon Warman
> > http://www.detaxcanada.org
> 
> You are both mentally ill and a fool. Go away, will you?

I presume that you make this cry from within the insane asylum?

Eldon Warman
http://www.detaxcanada.org


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"Zoti"  wrote in message news:<3d86e47c$1_1@nopics.sjc>...
> Eldon,
> 
> You sound like 1970s Egyptian propaganda. Grow up.
> 
> The Zionists are here to concur the world HA HA HA HA HA !!!!! (Evil Laugh)
> 
Here is some more facts that maybe might have a chance at changing your
flippant mind:

>From Christian Research Organization:

[ For those unfamiliar with this aspect of modern Jewish life & lies, 
here is a primer on their annual "Kol Nidre" pryer, or "All vows," 
which is so morally and ethically abhorrent that even some Jews have 
opposed its appearance around the Day of Atonement. Meanwhile, the 
Sheep are continually fleeced... - Dan ]  
 
Absolve All Vows 
  
THE KOL NIDRE is a Jewish prayer named from its 
 opening words "All vows" (kol nidre), it is based on the 
 declaration of the Talmud:- 

"He who wishes that his vows and oaths shall have no 
 value, stand up at the beginning of the year and say: 

'All vows which I shall make during the year shall be of no value.'" 
 It would be nice if we could declare that this is merely 
 one of the curiosities of the darkness which covers the 
 Talmud, but the fact is that Kol Nidre is not only an 
 ancient curiosity; it is also a modern practice. In the 
 volume of the revised Festival Prayers published in 1919 
 by the Hebrew Publishing Company, New York, the 
 prayer appears in its fullness: 

"All vows, obligations, oaths or anthems, pledges of 
 all names, which we have vowed, sworn, devoted, or 
 bound ourselves to, from this day of atonement, until 
 the next day of atonement (whose arrival we hope for in 
 happiness) we repent, aforehand, of them all, they shall 
 all be deemed absolved, forgiven, annulled, void and 
 made of no effect; they shall not be binding, nor have 
 any power; the vows shall not be reckoned as vows, the 
 obligations shall not be obligatory, nor the oaths 
 considered as oaths." 

If this strange statement were something dug out of the 
 misty past, it would scarcely merit attention. But as being 
 a part of a revised Jewish prayer book printed in the 
 United States in 1919, and as being one of the high points 
 of the Jewish religious celebration of New Year, it cannot 
 be lightly dismissed after attention has once been called to it. 

OPPOSED BY SOME JEWS 

Indefensibly immoral as the Kol Nidre is, utterly 
 destructive of all social confidence, yet the most earnest 
 efforts of a few really spiritual Jews have not succeeded 
 in removing it from the Day of Atonement services in 
 Orthodox Synagogues where it is normally chanted three 
 times, although a rabbinical conference in Brunswick 
 recommended its omission. 

In America, Britain, and other countries, Reform and 
 Liberal Congregations have followed this advice, but they 
 only comprise a small portion say 20% of Jews they have 
 retained the melody of Kol Nidre, but have revised the prayer. 

Thus, Kol Nidre stands condemned by a portion of 
 Jewry itself. The Jewish Encyclopedia, 1904, Vol. VII, 
 page 541, says, "It cannot be denied that according to 
 the usual formula, an unscrupulous man might think 
 that it (Kol Nidre) offers a means of escape from the 
 obligations and promises which he had assumed and 
 made in regard to others." 

EXCUSES PERJURY 

One of the most important aspects of Kol Nidre is that 
 it suborns or excuses perjury in the Courts in the case 
 Orthodox Jewish witnesses, whose testimony, of course, 
 is rendered worthless by it. 

If the prayer were a request for forgiveness for the 
 broken vows of the past, normal human beings could quite 
 understand it. Vows, promises, obligations and pledges 
 are broken, sometimes by weakness of will to perform 
 them, sometimes by reason of forgetfulness, sometimes by 
 sheer inability to do the thing we thought we could do. 
 Human experience is neither Jew nor Gentile in that respect. 

But the Kol Nidre prayer is a holy advance notice, 
 given in the secrecy of the synagogue, that no promise 
 whatsoever shall be binding, and more than not being 
 binding is then and there violated before it is ever made. 
 The scope of the prayer is "for this day of atonement, 
 until the next day of atonement."The prayer breaks down 
 the common ground of confidence between men: "the 
 vows shall not be reckoned vows; the obligations shall 
 not be obligatory, nor the oaths considered oaths." 
 It requires no argument to show that if this prayer be 
 really the rule of faith and conduct for the Jew who utters 
 it, the ordinary social and business relations are 
 impossible to maintain with him. 

(Clipped)

Unquote

Eldon Warman


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"Zoti"  wrote in message news:<3d881648_3@nopics.sjc>...
> "EG Warman"  wrote in message
> news:2005a7f1.0209170619.46b74f03@posting.google.com...
> > "Zoti"  wrote in message
>  news:<3d86e47c$1_1@nopics.sjc>...
> > > Eldon,
> > >
> > > You sound like 1970s Egyptian propaganda. Grow up.
> > >
> > > The Zionists are here to concur the world HA HA HA HA HA !!!!! (Evil
>  Laugh)
> > >
> > >
> > Pray tell, who then is murdering the Palestinians and unlawfully
> > confiscating their anciently held lands - if not the Zionist Jews
> > - an evil Asian tribe which has absolutely no right or claim to
> > the Middle East?
> >
> 
> Asians ? I wish. Asian chicks are so cool.
> 
> If you knew basic history you knew that the jews were in ISRAEL before any
> Arab, Palestinian, Muslim or Christian ever set a foot on that land. Long
> before any of them even existed.

Hmmmm... How could that happen, since the word "Jew" was only invented
in the 1700's (AD)?  And, if you don't know that the vast majority 
of Talmudists are an Asian tribe called Chazars, while the other 
"Judeans" who have ancient ancestory from Palestine are predominently 
Edomites(Canaanites), and are certainly NOT the descendents of Abraham
with his inheritance rights.

> People were talking Hebrew in that land more than 2000 years ago. They are
> talking hebrew there now and will be talking hebrew for many more years. The
> Palestinians can decide wheather they want to live with the Israelis or
> fight the Israelis. So far the second option has not been a very profitable
> one for the Palestinians.
> 
> What gets you is that the "Zionist Jews" are winning this fight. Driving
> their cars on Iraqi oil.
> 
Well, if you call genocide and evil deception "winning"?

> > Who is prodding the ignorant Americans into stealing the oil
> > of Iraq and pretty likely Iran - if NOT the Zionist Jews within
> > the US government by and for the Zionist Jews of Israel?
> 
> For some reason it doesn't seem like it bothered you when Iraq was stealing
> the oil, wealth and women of Kuwait.
> 
If you weren't so ignorant, you may have been able to read that Madame
Albright (a Jew) gave Sadaam the go-ahead to attack Kuwait. If Sadaam
was unlawful in attempting to take back Kuwait into Iraq, then Abraham
Lincoln was equally committing an unlawful act by fighting the civil
war against the South.
> >
> > I know Americans are pretty ignorant and stupid; however, I'm sure
> > there are a few who know what the Zionists are doing to America and
> > the World.
> 
> Let us not forget 9/11. All a Zionist plot isn't it ? 

You finally got something right!

> They got 19 poor Muslims who didn't knew what they were doing 
> and made them fly planes into buildings.
> 
Strange that 7 of the supposed hijackers are alive and well in Saudi
Arabia and Egypt? And, CNN somehow failed to find ANY Arab names
on any of the load manifests of the four aircraft.....

By the way, I still have a few ocean front lots for sale in Arizona,
and at a very good price.... 

> Come on, put your pointed hood on and FUCK OFF Eldon.

What's that supposed to mean? I have never known of the Freemasonic
KKK to bother village idiots.... But, I have heard of patriots who
have had necktie parties for traitors.....

Eldon Warman
http://www.detaxcanada.org


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Daniel,
Got an e-mail newsletter this evening from American Patriots Friends 
Network (apfn.org) regarding a furor in British newspapers today
regarding a US Military leaked document that reveals that Bush
has a list of countries which he plans to bomb with nuclear bombs.

Among the countries listed are: Russia, China, North Korea, Iran,
Libya, and of course, Iraq.

Washington's nuclear hit-list 
By Jim Green 
Longer version of article in Green Left Weekly #485 
 March 20, 2002.

A leaked Pentagon document details the US government's plans to
upgrade
its nuclear weapons arsenal, outlines various circumstances in which 
nuclear weapons might be used, and lists seven countries on 
Washington's nuclear hit list - China, Russia, Libya, Syria, Iraq, 
Iran and North Korea. 

The 56-page Nuclear Posture Review (NPR) was leaked to the Los Angeles
Times and the New York Times, and lengthy excerpts have been posted on
the internet (). The review is now
being
used as the basis for planning by the US Strategic Command, although 
some of its proposals are still under deliberation. 

In January, when the classified report was submitted to Congress, US 
government officials publicly provided only sketchy details of the 
NPR, emphasising the plan to reduce the nuclear arsenal to 1700-2200 
over 10 years. However, the reduction is largely illusory. According 
to Chris Paine, from the US nongovernmental organisation the Natural 
Resources Defense Council, the Pentagon's accounting is "worthy of 
Enron" and it intends to retain a total stockpile of intact nuclear 
weapons 7-9 times larger than the 1700-2200 figure. One of the many 
con-jobs identified by Paine is that warheads transferred to the 
"inactive stockpile" can quickly be transferred back to the active 
stockpile. The NPR itself states that "additional bombs could be 
brought out of the non-deployed stockpile in days or weeks". 

According to the NPR: "There are almost 8,000 warheads in the active 
stockpile today. As the initial nuclear warhead reductions are 
implemented, some warheads will be transferred from the active to 
the inactive stockpile. ... By 2012 approximately 3,000 warheads, 
now in the active stockpile, are planned to be transferred to the 
inactive stockpile or retired." Those figures suggest a remaining 
active stockpile of about 5000, suggesting a need for further 
creative accounting. 

Some aspects of the US administration's nuclear 'posture' - such as 
threatening first-use nuclear strikes - have been part of  US nuclear 
doctrine since World War II. Other aspects - such as the focus on 
'rogue' states - are continuous with post-Cold War US nuclear
doctrine.
The major developments under the administration of President George 
W. Bush have been the more determined pursuit of a missile defence 
system and new types of nuclear weapons, and the much closer 
integration of the nuclear arsenal with the rest of the US military. 

During the Cold War, the US relied on a massive nuclear 'triad' of 
bombers, land-based missiles and submarine-launched missiles. The 
NPR speaks of a "New Triad" comprising an "offensive strike leg", 
"active and passive defenses" (including a missile defence system), 
and a "responsive defense infrastructure" (to maintain or expand the 
nuclear arsenal). 

'Offensive strike leg' 

First, the "offensive strike leg". A recurring theme in the NPR is 
the integration of nuclear weapons with the conventional war-fighting
apparatus - a development which can only increase the likelihood of
their use. 

Nuclear strikes are not limited to retaliation: "Nuclear and
nonnuclear
strike systems can attack an enemy's war-making capabilities and thus
contribute to the defeat of the adversary and the defense of the
United
States and its security partners." 

Nor are nuclear strikes limited to enemies with weapons of mass 
destruction, nor even to imminent military threats of any sort: "A 
broader array of capability is needed to dissuade states from 
undertaking political, military, or technical courses of action 
that would threaten U.S. and allied security." 

The Pentagon wants to develop new nuclear weapons of variable or low 
yield for deeply-buried targets. It also wants weapons able to be 
quickly targeted for movable targets. The development of a more 
'flexible' nuclear arsenal with new capabilities (such as 'bunker 
busting') can only increase the likelihood of nuclear weapons being 
used. 

According to Michael Wallace, professor of political science at the 
University of British Columbia, the notion of "useable" (usually 
smaller) nuclear weapons has resurfaced periodically since World War 
II, only to be stymied by technical limitations and political 
opposition. In the 1950s and 60s, military hawks advocated 
"battlefield" nuclear weapons; in the 1970s it was NATO's planned 
"neutron bomb"; and in the 1980s it was Washington's "escalation 
dominance" with "tactical" nuclear weapons forming part of an overall 
nuclear war-fighting strategy. Wallace argues that the "technology 
will soon catch up with the concept" and thus the main barrier to 
Washington's nuclear war-mongering is public and political opposition,
domestic and international. He cites the massive worldwide protests 
against President Reagan's nuclear sabre-rattling in the early 1980s 
as a precedent. 

Following the press reports detailing the leaked NPR, Bush 
administration officials said that a decision to develop new types 
of nuclear weapons had not yet been made, but the NPR asserts without
equivocation that new research teams will be established to study
"advanced warhead concepts" and, for earth-penetrating nuclear
weapons, "investment and organization will yield a new level of
capability ... by 2007, with new technologies deployed by 2012." 

"Defenses" 

The second component of the New Triad - "active and passive defenses"
- includes the contentious missile defence system. The planned system
aims to put Washington in a position where it can pursue military 
operations - up to and including nuclear first-strikes - all the more 
brazenly. Moreover, the system is closely connected with another 
strategic aim: the control and militarisation of space. 

The third component of the New Triad - a "responsive defense 
infrastructure" - is no more 'defensive' than missile defence. It 
refers to maintaining the capability to expand the nuclear arsenal 
in circumstances such as a "reversal of Russia's present course". 

Specific methods to achieve this goal include: 
- maintaining an "active" stock of warheads incorporating the latest
modifications;
- being able to bring non-deployed nuclear weapons into service in a 
space of days or weeks; 
- developing a new capability to produce plutonium "pits" (spheres 
which reach critical mass when compressed by conventional explosives),
with work already underway to establish an "interim capability"; 
- improved intelligence, communications, and targeting systems; 
- a resumption of the production of tritium (used for several purposes
such as boosting the yield of nuclear weapons); and 
- preparations to facilitate a possible resumption of full-scale 
nuclear weapons testing. 

The most likely circumstance in which weapons testing would resume 
would be to test new weapons types such as 'mini-nukes'. The NPR 
proposes a range of activities to reduce the current 2-3 year lead-
time for weapons testing. A resumption of full-scale testing would 
augment ongoing programs of 'subcritical' weapons testing (which 
usually involves plutonium) and computer simulations. 

Hit list 

The report says that nuclear weapons could be used in three types 
of situations: 
- against targets able to withstand non-nuclear attack; 
- in retaliation for attack with nuclear, biological or chemical 
weapons; or 
- in the event of "surprising military developments" such as an 
adversary developing a new ability involving weapons of mass 
destruction, or a nuclear arsenal changing hands as a result of a 
coup. The Cuban missile crisis is cited as an historical example. 

The NPR identifies seven countries as possible targets - China and 
Russia; the 'axis of evil' countries, Iraq, North Korea, and Iran; 
and Libya and Syria. 

The NPR says that a "contingency involving Russia, while plausible, 
is not expected", but that Russia's future cannot be charted with 
certainty and "the U.S. may need to revise its nuclear force levels 
and posture". 

China, because of the "ongoing modernization of its nuclear and non 
nuclear forces"and its "still developing strategic objectives", is 
listed in the NPR as "a country that could be involved in an immediate
or potential contingency". 

The Pentagon report says the US should be prepared to use nuclear 
weapons in response to "an Iraqi attack on Israel or its neighbors, 
or a North Korean attack on South Korea or a military confrontation 
over the status of Taiwan." 

North Korea, Iraq, Iran, Syria and Libya are named in the NPR as 
countries that could be involved in "immediate, potential or 
unexpected" developments requiring plans for US nuclear strikes: 
"All have long-standing hostility towards the United States and its 
security partners; North Korea and Iraq in particular have been 
chronic military concerns. All sponsor or harbor terrorists, and 
have active WMD [weapons of mass destruction] and missile programs." 

None of the five countries has nuclear weapons - although there is 
a remote possibility that North Korea has sufficient plutonium for 
one or two nuclear weapons. None of the five countries is likely to 
be nuclear-armed anytime soon, if ever, and their delivery
capabilities
are generally limited. Syria and Libya, in particular, have limited 
nuclear facilities, limited expertise, and are not pursuing nuclear 
weapons programs. 

All five countries are signatories to the Nuclear Nonproliferation 
Treaty (NPT). Washington has repeatedly said over the years that it 
would not use nuclear weapons against non-nuclear weapon states that 
have signed the NPT unless those countries, "in alliance with a 
nuclear weapon state", attack the US or its allies. Bush
administration officials have generally obfuscated when asked if that
remains
government policy, and the NPR makes it clear that no such 
restrictions apply. 

Some nuclear weapons states are not on the nuclear hit-list, and some 
countries harbouring terrorists are also absent. US Ambassador Linton 
Brooks, deputy head of the National Nuclear Security Administration 
in Washington, refused to discuss Israel's nuclear weapons arsenal on 
ABC television's Lateline program on March 12, even though the Israeli
government has itself broken the taboo on discussing its nuclear
arsenal.

Brooks said, "we do distinguish between democratic states such as 
Israel and states such as Iraq or North Korea, where there is a 
totalitarian despot in charge". But Washington supports any number 
of dictatorships. So the bottom line is clear enough: Washington's 
enemies, if they aren't already under attack, risk attack with nuclear
and/or conventional weapons regardless of whether they have, or are 
developing, weapons of mass destruction, and regardless of their 
terrorist credentials. 

The Pentagon's overall aim is to ensure Washington's global domination
through military means, to protect US corporate interests and 
investments around the world. The NPR states that: "The capacity ... 
to upgrade existing weapon systems, surge production of weapons, or 
develop and field entirely new systems for the New Triad can
discourage
other countries from competing militarily with the United States." 

International response 

The NPR surprised few, but it provoked widespread international 
condemnation nonetheless. 

Russian defence minister Sergei Ivanov warned that the US plan to 
"warehouse" nuclear weapons instead of destroying them would 
encourage proliferation and could even set off a new arms race. 

Jayantha Dhanapala, the UN under secretary-general for disarmament,
expressed "alarm and consternation" at the NPR. He said that the use
of nuclear weapons would violate a 1996 advisory opinion by the 
International Court of Justice and a 1995 UN Security Council 
resolution, and it "flies in the face" of the NPT. 

Pervez Hoodbhoy, physics professor at Quaid-e-Azam University in 
Islamabad, said: "Why should every country of the world not develop 
nuclear weapons now that America may nuke anyone at anytime? The 
Bush administration has announced that it views nuclear weapons as 
instruments for fighting wars, not merely as the weapons of last 
resort. Resurgent American militarism is destroying every arms 
control measure everywhere. Those of us in Pakistan and India, who 
have long fought against nuclearization of the subcontinent, have 
been temporarily rendered speechless." 

Despite this predictable reaction, it has been widely speculated that 
the NPR may have been deliberately leaked. This might serve several 
purposes. The report might instill more fear in Washington's enemies 
and discourage them from challenging US corporate and political 
interests. 

A deliberate leak also fits with Washington's multifaceted scare 
campaign about weapons of mass destruction and terrorists. (A March 
4 report in Time magazine about a hoax threat to smuggle a nuclear 
weapon into New York was almost certainly deliberately leaked.) 

And last but not least, the NPR may have been leaked as a kite-flying 
exercise to test the American public's support for, or opposition to, 
the use of nuclear weapons. A Washington Post poll released on March 
12 found that US public support for the 'war on terrorism' remains 
strong, Bush's popularity is at 82%, and 70% approve of forcibly 
removing Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq (though that falls to 
just over half if America's allies are opposed). Unquote

Eldon Warman


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"Zoti"  wrote in message news:<3d896b58_1@nopics.sjc>...
> "EG Warman"  wrote in message
> news:2005a7f1.0209182035.70ca62bd@posting.google.com...
> > "Zoti"  wrote in message news:<3d881648_3@nopics.sjc>...
> > > "EG Warman"  wrote in message
> > > news:2005a7f1.0209170619.46b74f03@posting.google.com...
> > > > "Zoti"  wrote in message
>  news:<3d86e47c$1_1@nopics.sjc>...
> > > > > Eldon,
> > > > >
> > > > > You sound like 1970s Egyptian propaganda. Grow up.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Zionists are here to concur the world HA HA HA HA HA !!!!! (Evil
>  Laugh)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > Pray tell, who then is murdering the Palestinians and unlawfully
> > > > confiscating their anciently held lands - if not the Zionist Jews
> > > > - an evil Asian tribe which has absolutely no right or claim to
> > > > the Middle East?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Asians ? I wish. Asian chicks are so cool.
> > >
> > > If you knew basic history you knew that the jews were in ISRAEL before
>  any
> > > Arab, Palestinian, Muslim or Christian ever set a foot on that land.
>  Long
> > > before any of them even existed.
> >
> > Hmmmm... How could that happen, since the word "Jew" was only invented
> > in the 1700's (AD)?  And, if you don't know that the vast majority
> > of Talmudists are an Asian tribe called Chazars, while the other
> > "Judeans" who have ancient ancestory from Palestine are predominently
> > Edomites(Canaanites), and are certainly NOT the descendents of Abraham
> > with his inheritance rights.
> 
> You are so dumb, Eldon. The word "Jew" comes from the old name of one of the
> tribes of Israel which was called Judea. Invented in the 1700 ??? AD ???
> Let me quote a cretin Roman that ruled Israel 2000 years ago: "Are you the
> king of the JEWS ?" Who said to who ? The only reason you think that Jews
> came from Asia is because the were expelled to Asia by the Romans. Who also
> renamed Israel - Palestine. Jews were also expelled from Spain in 1492 along
> with other religions including Muslims. If you didn't leave or convert, you
> were dead. The Jews then spread all over the world including your admired
> "Deutschland Uber Ales" until after the second world war when they have
> returned to their homeland.
> 
The original KJV Bible used "Iudean" - translates to "Judean", not "Jew".
The word "Jew" wasn't in the Bible until the 1700s, when "Iudean" was 
changed to "Jew".  If you wish to call Jews liars regarding the origins
of the Chazars - the converts to Talmudism in 740 AD, that is your 
problem. However, if you wish to smarten up a bit, then you can research
the book (on the net) "Who Is Esau/Edom" and "The Thirteenth Tribe" - 
both writen by Jews.

> >
> > > People were talking Hebrew in that land more than 2000 years ago. They
>  are
> > > talking hebrew there now and will be talking hebrew for many more years.
>  The
> > > Palestinians can decide wheather they want to live with the Israelis or
> > > fight the Israelis. So far the second option has not been a very
>  profitable
> > > one for the Palestinians.
> > >
> > > What gets you is that the "Zionist Jews" are winning this fight. Driving
> > > their cars on Iraqi oil.
> > >
> > Well, if you call genocide and evil deception "winning"?
> 
> What genocide ? I'm not claiming that Palestinians are being treated well in
> Israel but when each and every one of them who is above the age of 15 is a
> potential walking bomb then, though luck. They have brought it on them self.
> Two years ago they were on the brink of a country for them self. They fucked
> it up.
> 
When America is taken over by the Zionist/NAZI Bush regime, and thousands
of people in America are being hauled off to death camps, are you going
to be content seeing your children and grandchildren being melted down to 
make soap? I recognize that you are a coward; but, are you coward enough 
to continue to support what is to come upon America? Palestine is just
a Zionist pilot project relative to what is coming upon America.
> >
> > > > Who is prodding the ignorant Americans into stealing the oil
> > > > of Iraq and pretty likely Iran - if NOT the Zionist Jews within
> > > > the US government by and for the Zionist Jews of Israel?
> > >
> > > For some reason it doesn't seem like it bothered you when Iraq was
>  stealing
> > > the oil, wealth and women of Kuwait.
> > >
> > If you weren't so ignorant, you may have been able to read that Madame
> > Albright (a Jew) gave Sadaam the go-ahead to attack Kuwait. If Sadaam
> > was unlawful in attempting to take back Kuwait into Iraq, then Abraham
> > Lincoln was equally committing an unlawful act by fighting the civil
> > war against the South.
> 
> Blah Blah Blah. Another Jew in the service of Evil. Yeah, We heard it.
> 
Stick your blood stained fingers in your ears if you wish, but......

> > > >
> > > > I know Americans are pretty ignorant and stupid; however, I'm sure
> > > > there are a few who know what the Zionists are doing to America and
> > > > the World.
> > >
> > > Let us not forget 9/11. All a Zionist plot isn't it ?
> >
> > You finally got something right!
> >
> > > They got 19 poor Muslims who didn't knew what they were doing
> > > and made them fly planes into buildings.
> > >
> > Strange that 7 of the supposed hijackers are alive and well in Saudi
> > Arabia and Egypt? And, CNN somehow failed to find ANY Arab names
> > on any of the load manifests of the four aircraft.....
> 
> Yeah. OK. Watching too much X-files have we ?
> 
Obviously, such movies have worked their intended purpose with you,
dumbed you down and de-sensitized you beyond conscience toward your
fellow man. Jesus said that the Spirit is poured out upon all mankind.
Why are you defending the mass murder of mankind by your stupidity?
> >
> > By the way, I still have a few ocean front lots for sale in Arizona,
> > and at a very good price....
> 
> Ha ?
> 
> >
> > > Come on, put your pointed hood on and FUCK OFF Eldon.
> >
> > What's that supposed to mean? I have never known of the Freemasonic
> > KKK to bother village idiots.... But, I have heard of patriots who
> > have had necktie parties for traitors.....
> >
> > Eldon Warman
> > http://www.detaxcanada.org
> 
> It's fun being a stupid little NAZI isn't it ? Do you have the little
> moustache ? How about the hair cut ?

Adolf Heidler - Hitler - Schickelgruber was the grandson of a Rothschild
(Mayer) clan of Vienna. In other words, he was a Jew, carrying out the
evil schemes of the Zionists.

So, you equate a man who promotes the values of life taught by Thomas 
Jefferson in his Declaration of Independence as being a NAZI..
Hmmm.... How far have the people of the USA sunk into the mire?

Eldon Warman
http://www.detaxcanada.org


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Press Release 

LaRouche Says: Bush Must Say 'No'
To Israeli Nuclear Blackmail
Statement by Lyndon H. LaRouche, Jr.
September 18, 2002

Sept. 18 - I am warning President George W. Bush and European leaders:
If weapons inspectors return to Iraq and an otherwise-certain Iraq-
centered new Middle East war by the U.S. is thus averted, the 
governments of the United States and Western Europe must be prepared 
to forcefully intervene, to prevent an increasingly more desperate 
and psychotic Ariel Sharon's nuclear-armed regime in Israel, the 
world's third-ranking strategic nuclear-weapons power, from blowing 
up the entire Middle East region, and beyond, with those weapons!

Therefore, I issued the following statement on behalf of my 2004 
candidacy for the Democratic Presidential nomination.

At an international webcast, before a live audience in Washington on 
Sept. 11, 2002, I identified three hurdles that had to be overcome to 
avert an Iraq war that would trigger a perpetual "Clash of 
Civilizations" religious conflict and a New Dark Age: First, the 
United Nations Security Council had to become the venue for dealing 
with the Iraq situation, and a reasonable resolution had to be 
drafted, that would be agreed to by President Bush, overriding the 
Sharon-influenced "war party" within his own Administration's 
senior ranks. Second, the resolution had to be accepted by Iraq's 
Saddam Hussein, as well as by President Bush. With those two 
conditions met, LaRouche warned, the gravest, remaining danger to 
overcome would be a berserker move by Sharon in Israel to sabotage 
the peaceful resolution and blow up the region.

It was the threat of an Israeli nuclear attack on Iraq in 1991 that 
blackmailed the first Bush Administration into launching Operation 
Desert Storm. Today's Israel, under the insane Sharon regime, is the 
only nation on Earth that genuinely fits the profile of a "rogue 
state" armed to the teeth with "weapons of mass destruction." Israel 
has the third largest nuclear weapons arsenal on Earth, and a triad 
of submarine, missile, and bomber delivery systems, capable of 
obliterating the entire Persian Gulf. Israeli scientists have 
recently threatened that they now have the capability of launching 
an intercontinental ballistic missile, meaning that no place on 
Earth--including the United States--is exempt from an Israeli 
preemptive nuclear attack. LaRouche asks you: Do you dare dismiss 
this threat from Sharon?

Have you looked inside the mind of a Jabotinskyite universal fascist 
like Sharon or Netanyahu? These men are the continuation of the 
avowedly fascist Vladimir Jabotinksy, a Mussolini crony who not only 
described himself as a fascist, but offered, unsuccessfully, to make 
a deal with Nazi dictator Adolf Hitler. These followers of Jabotinsky,
gained their present power in Israel through the 1995 assassination 
of Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin, who had the courage to pursue a 
"peace of the brave" with the Palestinians.

Since the 1956 attack on Egypt by Britain, France, and Israel, until 
the 1989-1991 break-up of Soviet power, Israel's access to nuclear 
weapons had made it the third "tilt" power in the global strategic 
equation.

Already in 1956, it took an experienced military man, President 
Dwight Eisenhower, to force Israel to back down from the Suez 
invasion, after both Britain and France had withdrawn under American 
pressure. Eisenhower not only threatened to cut off all U.S. military 
and civilian aid to Israel; he also threatened to remove the tax-
exempt status of all American organizations that provided aid to 
Israel. An even more resolute action will now be required from a 
far-less qualified President George W. Bush, to stop Sharon from 
carrying out either a false-flag "Islamist" terrorist attack against 
an American target, or a nuclear attack on Iraq or Iran. This is 
deadly serious stuff, and your personal involvement in the effort to 
stop it is vital.

Are you prepared to have the Sharon regime in Israel once again 
blackmail an American President into starting a war in the Persian 
Gulf, out of fear of an Israeli weapons of mass destruction attack 
on Baghdad? Do you have any idea what the consequences will be for 
the U.S. and world economy, if a new Persian Gulf War, costing 
American taxpayers between $2-3 trillion, is launched today, under 
the current conditions of a collapsing U.S. economy and a thoroughly 
bankrupt world financial system?

I warned that the toleration for the swamp of Sharon agents inside 
the Bush Administration, is another grave impediment to the President 
taking the urgently required action, in concert with our European 
allies and Russia, to stop Sharon from provoking this perpetual war. 
In a recent mass-circulation LaRouche in 2004 release, "The Pollard 
Affair Never Ended," I named the names of the leading Sharonists 
inside the Bush Pentagon and State Department--Paul Wolfowitz, 
Richard Perle, Doug Feith, David Wurmser--some of whom literally 
prepared the foreign policy doctrine of perpetual war for then-
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in July 1996. These 
Netanyahu-Sharon Likud moles inside the Bush foreign policy and 
national security establishment are still suspected, now with 
more and more evidence of involvement with the convicted Israeli 
spy, the American-born Jonathan Pollard.

Since the release and circulation of a million copies of the 
"Pollard Affair Never Ended" campaign document, new, even more 
damning evidence has surfaced. Therefore, I must intensify my demand 
for a thorough national security investigation into key staffers 
in the Office of Vice President Dick Cheney, beginning with his 
chief of staff and national security advisor, I. Lewis "Scooter" 
Libby.

Libby, a protégé of Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz for the 
past 30 years, has assembled a "shadow national security council" in 
the Vice President's Office, which has protected the Israeli agents 
nest inside the Pentagon and State Department--and blocked an 
urgently needed purge of these Likudniks. Libby has his own 
longstanding deep ties to the Sharon circles, including to the 
Pollard spy ring.

While out of government, Libby served between 1985-2000 as the 
personal attorney for fugitive swindler Marc Rich. Rich was indicted 
by the U.S. Justice Department in 1983 for tax evasion and for trading
with the enemy, and he fled the United States, establishing a 
luxurious hide- away in Zug, Switzerland.

Today, according to Israeli sources, Rich is under investigation, for 
illegal contributions to Ariel Sharon's last political campaign. He 
has been involved in Russian Mafia operations in Africa, and, through 
his Marc Rich Foundation in Israel, has openly financed international
operations of the Israeli Mossad. Libby's law partner and mentor,
Leonard Garment, was a pivotal player in the Israeli government's 
damage control effort, following the Pollard arrest in November 1985, 
and he served as the attorney for Israeli Air Force Col. Aviem Sella, 
the man who recruited and deployed Jonathan Pollard.

Now, Ariel Sharon's regime is Hell-bent on provoking a regional war in
the Middle East, a war pivoted on an Israeli pre-emptive attack on 
Iraq. The threat is that, if President Bush does not virtually 
exterminate Iraq, and neighboring countries, too, Israel will. This 
means the likely use of nuclear, biological or chemical weapons. 
All the while, Sharon's Washington moles are operating under the 
shadows of the Vice President and the Secretary of Defense of the 
United States. If Sharon is to be stopped from launching World War 
III in the Middle East, this entire Pollard stay-behind apparatus
must be thoroughly investigated, exposed, and removed from government
--now!  

It is time for these Israeli agents and spies to be kicked out 
of government, and the Israeli government to desist from its nuclear
blackmail.  I demand it. I can not believe that any sane and patriotic
American would not back me up "100%" on this specific issue.

Support me actively on this issue.  If you are serious about the 
security of our nation and its people, I should be able to count on 
you.  

From: http://larouchein2004.net/pages/pressreleases/2002/
020918isrblackmail_prt.htm

Posted by:  Eldon Warman

P/S
I admire the eternal optimism of Larouche in hoping for any positive
action from the yellow-bellied US Congress to do anything but rubber 
stamp the evil intent of the raving homicidal maniac and suicidially 
depraved homosexual George Bush.

George Bush Jr. a homosexual? Type: "George Bush homosexual" in 
google.com and see his record. Then you will understand the pictures 
which are about to be released to the World introducing George W's gay
lover and the homosexual explicit acts he performed at his Skull & 
Crossbones initiation.

Oh? You dumbed down Americans haven't heard of this because your 
lovely Federal Justice Dept. has not allowed you to see this fact 
about your queer president?  Hmmm.....


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Secret US Forces Plan Pretext for Clamp-Down   by Voxfux 
Part #2 of 2

A quick rundown on the Carlyle group.   The Carlyle Group is basically
a group of political insiders who buy failing military contractors at 
bargain basement prices. The reason why they buy the failing 
discounted companies is because the Defense Department appropriations
guidelines require that companies be in existence for a certain time
before being allowed to enter government contracts, for the obvious 
reasons. Then with their insider status and all the requirements 
and appearances in place, they then do insider deals with their 
buddies on the inside for this or that weapons system, and cash in 
big time. That is the Carlyle Group in a nutshell.

Who's on the board of Carlyle Group? George Bush Sr, James Baker, 
John Major, It's chairman is Frank Carlucci -former Defense Secretary 
and Princeton University wrestling teammate and pal of current Defense
Secretary, Donald Rumsfeld. Terror works. History reveals that 
Americans will quickly cling to their nearest tyrant. As long as he's 
an expert liar and doesn't get caught in a sexual scandal. 

Bush is well aware that murder, genocide, theft, financial criminality
are all fine, so long as he doesn't get caught with his ---- in some 
intern's mouth there is nothing that he can't get away with. Only 
the wealthiest have money - the rest of Americans are flat broke. Yet 
we are told that polls say more than half the American approve of 
Bush? We are shown images on the major media of people waxing 
rapturously over Bush. ... But in our daily life nearly everyone 
around us seems to hate this Bush President. .

It's called the "fake out." The news is fake.  It's just that simple. 
Ditto for the major public opinion polls as well. Nothing is left to 
chance. Since the 1950's with the inception of Operation Mockingbird 
the CIA's plan was to heavily infiltrate all the major media 
organizations. And they did just that! The grand old man himself 
Walter Cronkite revealed the tip of the iceberg by admitting that he 
had "sometimes" relayed, as news, stories directly handed to him by 
the CIA. Dan Rather is widely suspected to be a CIA asset as well. 

The dark force has achieved the operational control of the mass media 
this much is certain. The widely held belief that Jews control the 
media is only partly true, they may control the presses and the
operations but the dark hand can force their hand at any time, so 
who is the master of the media? Considering the depth and level of 
deception which undergirds nearly every facet of American life there 
is nothing at all implausible to suggest that even the Nielson ratings
themselves would in all probability be rigged as well. Remember one
thing, assassinating presidents and slamming airliners into towers 
can sometimes be tricky, but infiltrating or buying polling 
organizations is a piece of candy. Nothing is left to chance. 

Polls are now made to appear to show any disapproval indications 
towards Bush to be largely split down party lines What this is, is a 
"masking" technique. Commonly used in psy-ops to couch the question 
in only two terms each less damaging than the real term which is 
masked by it's exclusion. 

So if I were, say, the CIA and I was involved in the 9/11 attacks, 
and revelations-n-shit were hitting the fan and evidence started 
surfacing linking CIA to the crime, I would immediately mount a 
massive campaign to get all of my assets currently positioned at 
the major polling organizations to issue the following fraudulent 
poll nationwide: 
Question1) Do you think that the CIA failed by overlooking key 
indicators of the impending attacks and possibly could have done 
more to prevent the atrocities of September 11th? choose one: 
Somewhat' Maybe' possibly' probably not' 
Question 2) Do you think that the CIA did the best job they could 
given all the indicators they received? choose one: Huh' Dunno' 
What?' I guess' 

This is how it's done people! By couching the scenario as only one 
of two possible benign turn of events you control the discourse and 
thus control the reality.   They'll never ask the real question:) 
"Do you think these CIA . are behind the biggest mass murder in 
American history?" Because they might just get some write ins 
responses they didn't anticipate. Yes' Definitely!' . Damn straight!' 
You got that right dude!' 

Polls are designed to play to the public's predisposition that this 
country is split down party lines. Designed to make us think that 
there is actually half the American Population who actually support 
Bush. That is just laughable - it is false. 

Here's what happens when you confront MOST Americans with the article 
you are now reading. At first people often throw up their hands and 
shake their heads. (They think you're from Mars.) They've never heard 
anything like it before. So they continue. When they get to the part 
about the dinner date. Everyone stops and focuses.   You see a light, 
light up in their eyes. They say, "Is that true?" You say, "100%
true."

They continue, concentrating, silent. They know. They feel it. It's a
little scary and that is why they would rather ignore it - but they 
feel it. Then they begin to open their minds. 

And so like flowers I have seen people open up at just the reading of 
this paper alone. It is an alarm. It is a siren. And people are 
hearing it. They instinctively know the truth. Beneath this thin veil 
of patriotism people are very suspicious, people have a lot of pent up
mistrust and frustration and they are ready to explode. They know they
are being lied to. They know they were much better off before this 
return to the same old oil wars, same old energy crises, same old 
doublespeak. Same old COINTELPRO. Same old governance through 
deception and lies. 

Americans, already widely regarded by social critics to be the most 
lied to population on earth, are in for an onslaught of lies, 
assassinations, mysterious questionable suicides, plane crashes, etc, 
the likes of which are going to make the Nazis look like nice guys. 
(second referendum must outlaw (again) government officially 
sanctioned lies, misinformation, to knowingly plant misleading 
information, disrupt open political processes)

No we don't support Bush. Very few actually do.  .
Just look at the public opinion polls the day before the September 
attacks - They all said that Bush was in serious political trouble. 
His popularity was at an all time low - and this coming from 
polling organizations largely influenced and associated with the 
Bush organization. But when those planes slammed into the towers, 
the Bush team knew that they had a winner. They could shape the 
public's opinion's into ANYTHING they want now they thought. And 
so some of the biggest scumbags on the face of the planet like 
Guillianni and Bush both on their political . asses, rebounded in 
all of one morning and rose to the status of Deities. Nearly 
Godlike. But that was just in the immediate aftermath of the WTC 
attacks. 

Now, months after the attack, the American people are facing record
unemployment, the looting of the Treasury is nearly complete, the 
social security trust fund is emptied, and the people are broke and 
they are pissed off. But guess what? It doesn't matter. 

A few CIA polls later and hey look at the poll! It shows nearly ninety
five percent of the are giving their unbounded faith in Bushes 
handling of our enemies. Sadly most people will be unaware why will 
suddenly actually, "believe," they support Bush. In the Brave New 
World Order, often times by simply shouting it in a large enough mass 
medium makes it so. That's the power of propaganda. That's the power 
of the corporate media. That's the power of the big lie. 

And it's a simple task, since the Bush group already has the 
complicity of the major American opinion machines (CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS,
FOX) in his game plan, the job of shaping public opinion becomes a 
simple matter. Like clay, they can shape it into any form they want. .

A note to US military servicemen:  Vox is on your side. We want to 
help you. We believe there needs to be new military exceptions to 
service. Servicemen need to have a special clause in their terms of 
enlistment that states, "If the war is an obvious ego driven war 
based on some retarded Junior President's, "Daddy's Big . Complex," 
that the GI has a right to opt out of service. Thus saving himself 
>from a needless vainglorious premature death."   

Voxnyc supports our military men and we want to help save their
lives! Each and every one of them.  Since the invention of this 
technique of, "Mass population control through self terrorism," by 
the Romans and it's perfection by Hitler's Nazis the technique of 
attacking one's own population then stepping up to be the,
"protector" is proving to be the military/industrialist's most 
reliable method of control for these problems called domestic 
populations. The American military used this technique at the turn 
of the 1900's to wrest Cuba from Spain. We sank our own battleship 
the "Maine" and blamed it on the Spanish. The war cry the government 
designed and trumpeted throughout the American Press with the help 
of the Media Mogul at the time William Randolf Hearst was "Remember 
the Maine!" Not very sophisticated semeiotics but enough to rally 
the American population to support the land grab from Spain. 

Later we did the same thing in Vietnam in what was known as the
"Gulf of Tonklin Incident." The military set up it's own ship to get 
bombed by the Vietnamese so we could invade. In the most recent 
revelation of this treasonous technique, documents were unearthed 
showing that in 1961 the Joint Chiefs of Staff devised detailed
plans to kill Americans and blame it on Cuba as a pretext to invasion.
The following are some highlights from the Joint Chief's action plan. 
"We could blow up a US ship in Guantanamo bay and blame Cuba", 
"We could develop a Communist Cuban Terror campaign in Miami, 
Florida or Washington," "We could foster the attempts on lives of 
Cuban in the United States wounding them in instances to be widely
publicized.," Exploding a few plastic bombs in carefully chosen
spots... "Use of MIG type aircraft by US pilots could harass US civil 
air, attack US surface shipping and destroy a US military drone 
aircraft. An F-86 properly painted would convince air passengers that 
they saw a Cuban MIG." 

By the time these military wacko's plans reached the then President 
Kennedy's desk, Kennedy killed the plan straightaway. .
The Bush Group leads the darkest criminal triad of oil, arms and 
political insiders in the history of the world.  The patterns of 
wars, assassinations, and covert deals involving generation after 
generation of Bushes is astonishing. Had the Bushes not always 
aligned themselves with the core of intelligence agencies all 
throughout the century, without a doubt their criminal exploits 
would be laid bare or they wouldn't have committed them in the first 
place. But not so when the grand patriarch (Bush Sr.) was once the 
head of CIA then President. 

There's no one left to investigate him. And while he was President he 
succeeded in erasing and expunging nearly any record of his families 
and his own misdeeds or for that matter ANY records of the Bushes 
deeds from the official record. There is more, Missing, information 
about the Bush's Presidency than any other President ever.

This highly covert group of intelligence operators has one modus 
operandi, they are brokers - trading the blood of young American 
soldiers for one hundred times the blood of the impoverished people 
unfortunate to inhabit land whose resources US industrialists thirst 
for. 

The Bushes Have NEVER waged war with any population except the very 
poorest of the Earth's poor - The impoverished, shirtless and 
barefooted populations of Vietnam, Cambodia, Cuba, Guatamala, 
Nicaragua, El Salvador, and on and on. And now we are at war with 
Afganistan - The country with the lowest per capita expenditure on 
military in the world, right behind Cambodia. That's courage! 
(The only historical exception to this rule of decimating only 
impoverished populations is when Prescott Bush, George Sr's father 
eagerly financed the Hitler war machine as it rampaged throughout
Europe.) 

Bushes Jr.'s. grandfather and great grandfather were both merchants 
of death. The great Grandfather was involved with the Remington Arms
Manufacturing Company when, during World War One - they sold 3/4 of 
all light armaments used in that war - to both sides!   This is what 
they do - This is ALL they do.  (Vox challenges any Bush spokesman 
or defender to prove otherwise) .

As Director of Union Bank, Prescott Bush eagerly financed the Nazis. 
It took an act of Congress to order him to cease and desist in aiding 
Hitler. But is was too late. The family fortune had already been 
made. As brokers their fee is: All they can grab in the exchange of 
arms and energy futures - The spoils and plunder of last of the 
petrol-wars. 

The principle objective of the Bush group's terrorist attacks on 
American citizens is to consolidate total power - military, police,
intelligence, and after the first three, political - in the hands of
George Bush Jr. But short of that, the Bushes will be satisfied with 
their typical "Fallback" objectives - The time honored four year 
stint at wholesale looting of the treasury, through insider arms 
dealing. 

The real force behind the terrorism, is US based and is at the very 
highest levels of the power elite. They are the true "Puppetmasters."
.
You are witnessing the titanic last gasps of a dying industrial 
paradigm. Oil, heavy industry, all soon to be dinosaurs on a planet 
that is simply running out of oil, are all convulsing in one last 
final desperate grab at power the only way they have left - with 
airliners slamming into towers.  

Diplomacy and politics no longer "get the job done." These forces are 
using direct action. Terrorism. The stories put out by our government 
are FAKE and 95% of all corporate "news" is pure fabrication. There 
are to many suspicious unexplained and uncorroborating questions such
as the much hyped mystery stock deals discovered in the immediate 
days following the attack. 

When the questionable stock purchase was traced and linked (by a 
German investigative team - not our FBI or CIA) to the brokerage house
(Brown and Co.) of the number 2 man at the CIA, Buzz Krongard, the 
story took the most precipitous dive into oblivion since the eighties 
when the story broke that Scott Hinkley (brother of the unsuccessful 
assassin, John Hinkley) was supposed to dine on the night of the 
attempt on then President Reagan's life with Vice President Bush's 
son Neil. .

That Hinkeley-Bush connection story was obliterated in the days 
following the assassination attempt, just like nearly any reference 
to the much vaunted and much hyped airline stock connection [9/11] 
story was expunged from any reference or further discussion when all 
leads in that story pointed to the number two man at CIA - Krongard. 
Don't take my word for it. 

If you care about your life and that of your children, get out your 
Google search engine and look it up for yourself. Your life depends 
on it. Type in (Krongard CIA airline) - that should get you what 
little scraps remain of that story, but it's a biggy. 

What should have been the biggest story of the eighties (the Bush /
Hinkeley dinner date) was wiped clean from history, and now this 
connection between the [9/11] stock transactions and a direct link to 
the CIA has also been systematically killed from ever being mentioned 
by corporate media.  

In the immediate days following the attacks, when the story of the
"airline short sells" first broke it was vaunted as the key to 
uncovering the true persons behind the attack, and before the evidence
came in implicating the CIA boss, all fingers pointed to Bin Ladin as 
the culprit. But when the FACTS came in from abroad linking the 
transaction DIRECTLY TO THE NUMBER TWO MAN AT CIA, THE STORY WAS NEVER
HEARD AGAIN, EVER! 

Our government expects us to believe that in this age of Echelon where
nearly every transaction, e-mail and phone call is accessible to the 
NSA that they are "baffled" by who actually made the short sells of 
those Airline stocks the day before the 9/11 attacks. The stock 
transactions were placed at the brokerage house (Brown) which just 
happened to be the brokerage house where the number two man at the CIA
(Buzz Krongard) was the CEO of. Hmmmmm. .

People are not THAT stupid. More and more people each day are getting 
very tired of all this and undergoing rapid change in their formerly 
closely held beliefs. They don't trust the government. They know the 
government is lying, they sense very strongly that the government is 
the one behind the September 11th attacks. They are being 
propagandized to at a level never before seen. And their anger is 
building. And there are indications here and there that the secret 
government's neatly constructed plot is fraying at the edges. There's 
too many stories out there for them to manage and ALL of them seem 
like they can unravel at a moments notice. Finding the handlers who 
work for the puppetmaster is the key that will unravel the Bush 
group. 

One of these Bush private contractors surfaced during the 2000 
campaign election disaster when the story broke that a "retired" 
CIA Agent, Charles W. Cane was caught with his hand in the cookie 
jar - actually the ballot box. He was caught "correcting" ballots 
in the Florida's Martin County during the election rigging of 2000. 
And who do you think he was correcting them in favor of? That's 
right, George Bush. Cane is one of the few of the thousand fired 
back in 1977 and who went to work for Bush who ever floated to the 
surface. Most you can never expect to identify. 

One place to start is to identify the thousand CIA agents who were 
fired by Admiral Stansfield Turner in 1977 under the orders of 
President Carter. These disgruntled agents whose specialty was 
assassinations and election rigging, swore revenge and turned their 
allegiance to then CIA Director, George Bush Sr. essentially saying, 
"What next boss." Now as "Free Agents," there was and is virtually 
zero restraint or oversight or accountability or even knowledge of 
their wherabouts or doings - They could do whatever they want.

In the end, the result of this privately held intelligence 
organization was some of the most suspicious events in the past 
three decades starting with the October Surprise, which led to the 
theft of the 1980 election, the attempted assassination of Ronald 
Reagan, the first Iraqi war for oil and many more of Bushes greatest 
hits. And their diversionary tactics are enough to occupy nearly 
90% of all agents working for the agencies, to keep them busy.  
For example, remember the damaging revelations that "BUSH KNEW" 
in advance of the terrorist strikes. 

Do you remember what happened the following day? The following day 
the CIA suddenly announced that they had just picked up some 
"Chatter," as they called it in "LieSpeak," satellite phone activity 
which indicated another terrorist strike was eminent possibly 
immediately. The Bush team, who had been backed into the corner 
about the revelations about to explode on his presidency, released 
a bomb of their own - a fabricated "Fear Bomb." And that was it - 
Bushes political tangle evaporated instantly. That is the power of 
fear and ignorance as a systematic method of control. The media 
and the American people never even mentioned the revelations of 
prior knowledge any more.

Osama Bin Laden was manufactured by the CIA. For the purpose of 
a ready made pretext for a push into Central Asia - which is the 
principle focus of all power grabs emanating from the upper echelons 
of the power elite based in the United States. Just as Oswald was 
designed to be the patsy in the Kennedy assassination, Osama is set 
up to take the fall for all this terrorism and be the excuse Bush 
uses as to why we had to invade CENTRAL ASIA and be custodians for 
all that oil there. .

This is the clearest analysis that is possible considering the 
pattern of events, historical precedent, personalities and 
psychological profiles of the individuals involved. The events are 
flowing with the regularity and precision and characteristic 
indications of a military/intelligence Psy-op.

As the unoriginal politicians love to say, "Make no mistake 
about it." 
voxfux       Unquote

End of Part 2 of 2

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Secret US Forces Plan Pretext for Clamp-Down   by Voxfux 
http://www.VoxFux.com

PAGE URL: http://www.gulufuture.com/future/voxfuxsecretforces.htm  

The following article is no longer on the VoxFux website. As of 
August 8th, 2002 the entire website content has been removed -- 
leaving only a disclaimer warning that the death of the site 
operator would be a covert forces assassination. 

Quote:
A thorough scientific analysis of the swirl of events, people, 
nations, motivations, propaganda, personalities and histories 
involved in this current moment in history, leads to only one 
conclusion: That clandestine forces loyal to George Bush Sr. 
are planning to attack the US population, blame it on Islamic 
terrorists and use the attacks as a pretext for a total clamp-
down on dissent, basic civil liberties, normal democratic
processes and in the confusion that will follow they will wage 
unchecked war and aggression against Iraq, and other nations 
Islamic and otherwise who have natural resources and 
particularly oil reserves that this shadowy group of 
petrochemical and arms industrialists are thirsting for. 
Their ultimate goal? The conquest of Eurasia. 

Three quarters of the world's population and resources are 
to be found on the Eurasian landmass. It has been the principle 
focus of State Department and military strategists since 
presidential National Security Advisor, Zbigniew Brzezinski 
outlined it twenty years ago as the principle American 
"Imperative."  Meaning: To survive, we MUST conquer. But what 
of all those nations that we will be conquering? According to 
Brzezinski and his cabal of adherents in the Military and State 
Department whom his writings are a biblical tome - it's for 
their own good. 

The problem Brzezinski says is that most average American's 
don't have a taste for crusades of global conquest..  Unless
...there's a sudden threat. In his latest book, The Grand 
Chessboard, Brzezinski drills his followers no less than four 
times that only sudden and terrifying threats would rouse 
Americans to the task of global conquest. 

With the opening salvo of September 11th behind them, 
American's are being, "softened up" right now for their first 
"Dirty Bomb," attack. If there was ever so sinister an imaginary 
catastrophic device that had been so entirely concocted out of 
thin air, so heavily promoted in the media and ultimately steered 
to what will almost certainly be the dramatic conclusion of a 
self fulfilling media stoked prophecy - to be fabricated first 
in our imaginations then ignited in the real world - It is the 
dirty bomb. 

To make it very clear our analysis is the following: The much 
vaunted radiological dirty bomb will NOT be dropped on the 
American population from any Islamic terrorists but from the 
shadowy group of American intelligence operatives aligned with 
George Bush Sr. (the father). 

Americans have been made, "aware," of the dirty bomb for over 
six months now and have had the dirty bomb "meme" firmly linked 
to, "Islamic Terrorists."  This is how it's done. It's called 
the, "Back Story." And it is part of the preparatory propaganda 
intelligence agencies call a Psy-op (psychological operation). 
These Psy-ops in actuality comprise nearly 70% of the overall 
human and capital resources our government devotes to a given 
geo-strategic objective - only 30% is bullets and bombs. But 
even with the many millions spent on painting these elaborate 
Psy-op pictures, it doesn't take a forensic analysis to uncover 
some troubling clues within them - Something terribly wrong in 
the picture. Like a Hollywood special effects extravaganza - 
all glitz but light on story, these psy-ops which accompany 
the dirty business of America's, industry, military, 
intelligence triad, are the shoddy screenplays leaving much 
to be desired.   

In this case the clues point to only one conclusion. In their 
race towards global domination these intelligence agencies 
are preparing to initiate attacks of American population 
centers. And are laying the preparatory groundwork to make 
those attacks have maximum political and psychological effect.

What follows is a VERY different explanation of the dreadful 
attacks of 9/11.   The ruling faction of our government can 
be characterized as being on a "Kill Crazy Rampage." This 
terrorism is from old rich men who are dying. It is their last 
salutations to vitality. Their vain old clutching to vigor as 
it slips away from them. These attacks are from old people to 
young people, from rich people to poor people. These terrorist 
attacks are the most expedient and efficient mechanism they 
have left to jump start their futile push for global 
domination. 9-11, An inside job? - You better believe it. 

The lesson of self induced terrorism as a means to seize the 
American population and stoke them into a war frenzy, is a deep 
part of the game plan of the masters of George Bush Jr's 
administration - His father, George Bush Sr and the group 
of industrialists that he serves. Brzezinski's book is the 
defacto Bible of the Bush Group and now is standard coffee 
table decor in every office in the state department and 
pentagon. 

At the same time as being an effective means to rally the mass 
population for the coming wars necessary to impose the 
industrialist's unwanted arrogant Pax Americana on the world's 
populations, it is also conveniently and unfathomable a most 
profitable form of population control as well. With a fear 
frenzied population under tight control and no need to bow to 
public opinion or compromise with a reluctant Senate - The sky's 
the limit on arms sale's and profits. Wherever these shadow 
groups of private clandestine intelligence operators surface, 
extraordinary patterns of unexplained "suicides", cancers, 
car accidents, assassinations, plane crashes, wrecked 
economies, other accidents, civil wars, oil wars, civil 
unrests, genocides, suicides and document shreddings, all 
just...happen. 

Here's something that happened. - a little back story.   
This is the extraordinary story of a dinner date. A dinner 
date that was scheduled to happen on March 31st 1981 - the day 
following the strange assassination attempt on the life of 
Ronald Reagan. Reagan was the president. And George Bush Sr, 
the very ambitious former CIA director from Texas was the 
Vice President. 

What makes this dinner date so special that night was its two 
guests. Hold on to your seats because the following news item 
should send a chill up your spine. The dinner party was to be 
held at the home of Neil Bush, the vice president's son. 
The guest at the dinner party (which was quickly cancelled 
after news of the failed attempt on the life of the President), 
was Scott Hinckley, the brother of John Hinckley who just that 
afternoon fired several shots into Reagan's chest, coming one 
half inch from putting his bullet into the heart of the 
President - a half inch from putting his friend's father, 
George Bush, into the White House.  

Now let's pause a moment and reflect on that. So far what we 
have is the son of the Vice President linked to the brother 
of the guy who just tried to kill the president. Take a moment 
to absorb that. Go look it up on Google. Type in (neil bush 
scott hinckley dinner) See for yourself. 

What was the Bush team's response to this chilling revelation 
on the planned dinner date? They barricaded themselves behind 
a wall of the biggest PR Firms in the nation and issued the 
following statement "This horrible coincidence has been 
devastating to the Bush Family. Our condolences go out to all 
involved. And we hope to get the matter behind us as soon as 
possible." (sic) I should hope so.  If I was the Vice President 
and I had just masterminded a failed assassination attempt on 
the President of the United States, I too would hope to "put 
the matter behind me." 

The Bush Team decided to go with the story that it was just a 
bad "coincidence."  In the days that followed, Washington saw 
the most intensive whitewash of any news item ever whitewashed. 
What should have been the biggest most investigated story of the 
80's was wiped clean from history. They spun it clear off the 
front, back or middle pages of all the giant newspapers. 
The only mention of it EVER to appear on national television 
was a brief comment by NBC's John Chancellor who was absolutely 
floored by the revelation and mentioned it during his newscast 
against the wishes of NBC management. NBC quickly jumped in and 
censored it. And the revelation was NEVER MENTIONED ON ANY 
TELEVISION SHOW EVER AGAIN. 

Having no chance to make it into the History Books, the story 
resurfaced with the advent of the Internet, but something is 
happening there as well. It's being expunged from the Internet 
as you read this. In 1999 one could find nearly a thousand 
independent articles pertaining to this most revealing story, 
then all of the sudden, one by one the pages and sites 
relating to the story started to disappear. Today there just 
a few sites who are keeping the story alive. There used to be 
thousands of references to it, now there are but paltry few. 

But wait, It gets better. It was revealed in the days following 
the shooting that since 1970 both George Bush Sr. and John 
Hinckley Sr (the father of the assassin) were friends and 
fellow oil industrialists in Texas and Colorado.  How's that 
for another coincidence!  Pretty coincidental isn't it? 

Here's another coincidence, in 1978 Neil Bush lived in Lubbock, 
Texas while managing his brother George Jr's (our President's) 
campaign for congress. Guess who else lived in Lubbock that 
year?   John Hinckley Jr. 

Is there a chill running down your spine yet? If there isn't, 
there should be. Normally this many coincidences would sound 
alarm bells in a normally functioning democracy and there would 
about a thousand articles in the major media outlets, or there 
would be at least one fearless soul in congress who would stand 
up and demand a congressional investigation. Well there actually 
was. There was only one congressman who defied this force - 
congressman Larry MacDonald - But guess what? His plane crashed.  
Many suspect that the infamous Korean Air 007 flight that was 
shot down by the Soviets as it unexplainably veered into Soviet 
airspace was an insider deal by heavyweights in the clandestine 
underworld in exchange for certain unfettered Soviet meddling 
in places like Central Asia and elsewhere in the following 
years. That's another coincidence. 

But back to the tale of two sets of brothers. One press encounter 
probed the brothers about whether they and Hinckley associated 
during that time in Lubbock. Both Neil and George (our current 
President) responded that it was "conceivable that they had 
associated, however they couldn't recollect." Do you know what 
that means? It means that at that time the Bush brothers were 
very aware that there were certain individuals alive in and around 
Lubbock and possible other places who would be able to refute any 
flat out denial by the Bushes that they had never met Hinckley. 
That is why their story had to be that it was, "Conceivable." 
Otherwise as we all know in typical politician LieSpeak style 
the Bush boys would simply flat out reject any claims and 
vehemently deny such a meeting.

You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure this one out. 
You don't have to have a photograph of all three to know they 
were together in Lubbock. OTHERWISE THEY WOULD HAVE ISSUED FLAT 
OUT DENIALS. The Bushes' stupid move of the "Conceivable" comment 
tells the whole story. It also reveals that the Bush boys were as 
sloppy with their covert operations then as they are now. That 
being said, I'll leave you with another - Pity the poor persons 
living in Lubbock who might have been party to or aware of such 
meetings between the three, because, considering the personalities 
involved, psychological makeup and history of the Bushes it is 
in all likelihood that any such person would have long since 
"committed suicide" or had a "car accident" or "fell out a 
window." or some such other "accidental" and untimely death. 
Know Your History. 

My bet is that even if one were to mount a massive search of all 
persons who met an untimely death in and around Lubbock from the 
period from 1981 to 1990 that you may not even find a trace of 
them in existence any longer. And do you know why? Because that 
is the Bush specialty. Through executive dominion over public 
records they carefully and systematically expunge any trace of 
a person or events in state and federal records systems. If 
you are the Governor of Texas you simply have your private firm 
do a routine audit the records systems, locate the records in 
question, and remove them.

There is no one on a state level who would even have he power 
to challenge you. That's what Bush Sr. spent a great deal of time 
and effort doing while he was Vice President and President. First 
expunging his father Prescott's nasty little deeds from the 
records, then his own. Looks like the son learned his lessons 
well. That's what they are doing right now - Deleting, rewriting 
and expunging history. And they are doing it openly. Just try to 
exercise your Freedom of Information rights. Fat chance. 

The Bush group never believably accounted for that chillingly 
unexplained dinner date. The mainstream press has NEVER visited 
that story since. It remains one of the most chilling examples of 
the power of the new dark hand to crush real events that really 
happened, essentially to shape history at will.  Welcome to the 
New World Order of deception, assassinations and power grabs. ..

Those who float to the top of this shadowy world like George Bush 
Sr can, at will, launch terror strikes at the American people and 
watch the twisted irony as their popularity soars. It's the oldest 
formula in the book - the more American citizens they secretly kill 
and maim the more popular they become. The more soldiers they put 
in harms way for their own personal vendetta's and profit motives 
the more fabulously wealthy they become. It's a classic formula 
by now. It works EVERY time. One needs only to examine the history 
of the fabulously wealthy Bushes since the turn of last century and 
you will see that it is their formula for arms and oil profits. 

Shadowy, "Public Relations," heavyweights like the Bechtel Group, 
Wackenhut and a certain now infamous Carlyle group invest heavily 
only in eventualities that lead to the use of force to control 
populations. Wackenhut is a government contractor with deep ties 
to both intelligence agencies and the military. This private 
contractor is responsible for among other things running America's 
prison system. They also have their own very lethal private army 
- ditto for Bechtel Group. There needs to be an index graphing
corporations according to statistics such as, say.... how many 
Automatic weapons their "Public Relations" group owns. (That 
issue needs to be on a national referendum along with a few 
others I'll suggest later.) 

End of part #1 - See Part #2

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SUMMARY 

To go to the complete article by Chaim Kupferberg:
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/KUP209A.html

A mere week after the destruction of the World Trade Center, 
authorities were gradually building toward an official 
announcement that would definitively link Osama bin Laden to 
the events of September 11 - a wire transfer of $100,000 to 
lead hijacker Mohamed Atta. To an increasingly skeptical public, 
here was the "smoking gun", a bona fide money trail that would 
demonstrate how al-Qaida planned and financed the operation.

On October 1, 2001, the press revealed the pseudonym of the 
al-Qaida operative who allegedly passed on the funds to the 
hijackers. Days later, CNN revealed that the pseudonym belonged 
to a 28-year old Pakistani militant, a former student at the 
London School of Economics named Omar Saeed Sheikh. Yet on October 
9, the Times of India reported that Omar Saeed was in fact acting 
under the authority of General Mahmud Ahmad, the chief of Pakistani
intelligence, who had spent the morning of September 11 in deep
discussion with Sen. Bob Graham and Rep. Porter Goss (now the co-
chairmen heading up the "independent" investigation into 9/11). 
An intricate disinformation campaign was now set in motion to 
control any damaging fallout that might have implicated elements 
of the U.S. government in the events of September 11.

At the insistence of U.S. authorities, General Ahmad was "quietly 
retired," and a cover story was then elaborated to explain that 
General Ahmad was "purged" by the Pakistani President for being 
"pro-Taliban" - yet distancing him from any connection to the 9/11 
money trail.

As for the initial "smoking gun" itself - the money trail - trouble 
was brewing in the days before the Times of India's October 9 
revelation. While plans were possibly being put into effect to 
initially publicize Omar Saeed as the 9/11 paymaster, confusion 
apparently set in when the Indian government began to ferret out 
the link between Omar Saeed and the Pakistani spymaster. It now 
became necessary to gradually put the brakes on the money trail 
story, minimizing it with the release, on Oct. 3, of the Blair 
document setting out the "persuasive" case against bin Laden (yet 
omitting mention of the alleged money trail).

A few days later, the invasion of Afghanistan commenced, and the 
money trail story began to die a slow death in the mainstream media. 
Yet in the meantime, it had to be dealt with.

With a cover story for General Ahmad's sudden dismissal firmly in 
place, a "legend" now had to be elaborated for Omar Saeed to 
distance him from General Ahmad and the money trail story. After 
October 9, as Omar Saeed suddenly disappeared from the world's 
headlines, the Indian-Pakistan front was now heating up, stoked 
by an October 14 announcement on Kashmir by al-Qaida.

By mid-December, the Associated Press had dislodged Omar Saeed from 
the money trail story by tagging bin Laden's brother-in law - Shaykh 
Saiid - as the actual 9/11 paymaster. That week, the Bush 
Administration also managed to fully bury the money trail story by 
presenting a new, "sexier" smoking gun - the Bin Laden Videotape 
Confession. Also that week, Pakistan and India were brought to the 
brink of war by a daring terrorist attack on the Delhi parliament -
 an attack that would eventually be linked to Omar Saeed.

On January 23, 2002, one day after a terror attack in Calcutta 
(which would also be linked to Omar Saeed), Wall Street Journal 
reporter Daniel Pearl disappeared off the streets of Karachi. On 
February 5, Pakistani authorities revealed the prime suspect in 
Pearl's kidnapping - Omar Saeed. With Saeed actually being in 
Pakistani custody on that very day, the authorities then spent 
the following week on a "hunt" for him, officially announcing his 
"arrest" on February 12.

With Omar Saeed back in the headlines, his link to the money trail 
was being gradually resurrected, yet this time it was minimized with 
the news of his now-publicized links to most of the post-9/11 terror 
attacks heating up the Pakistan-Indian border. In the meantime, the 
Times of India was now backing away from its October 9 bombshell, 
cutting General Ahmad out of the picture and connecting Omar Saeed 
to the money trail by way of an alternative al-Qaida operative (who 
was linked to the January 22 attack in Calcutta). Omar Saeed was now 
cast as a Kashmir militant with collateral ties to al-Qaida, 
employing terrorist attacks to foil Pakistani President Musharraf's
collaboration with U.S. authorities in the War On Terror.

With General Ahmad branded as a "rogue" intelligence chief, all the 
pieces of the cover story were now firmly in place, providing an 
"alternative" explanation for the history books.

On July 15, 2002, Omar Saeed was sentenced to die for the kidnapping 
and murder of Daniel Pearl. While some correspondents had briefly 
touched upon Omar Saeed's alleged additional role as 9/11 paymaster, 
most persisted in refusing to acknowledge this angle of the story, 
focusing instead on a 1994 kidnapping which was the subject of a 
"secret" indictment against Saeed by the Justice Department back 
in November 2001.

While the media may, one day, present a "plausible" explanation for 
many of these anomalies, the evidence nevertheless now irrefutably 
points toward the existence of a vast disinformation apparatus that 
has managed, manipulated, and obfuscated most of the information 
being fed to the public - the true smoking gun of 9/11.

Copyright Chaim Kupferberg 2002. Chaim Kupferberg is a freelance 
researcher and writer. His previous CRG article , The Propaganda 
Preparation For 9/11, describes a general media campaign, in the 
years leading up to 9/11, to present al-Qaida as a plausibly 
sophisticated nemesis with the motive, means, and opportunity to 
destroy the World Trade Center. 

The URL of this article is:
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/KUP209B.html

Posted by:

Eldon Warman
http://www.detaxcanada.org


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Subject: FW: Planning WW III
 
President Bush and Colin Powell are sitting in a Texas bar. A guy
walks in and asks the barman, "Say, isn't that Bush and Powell 
sitting over there?" The Bartender says, "Yep, that's them." 
So the guy walks over and says, "Wow, this is a real honor. 
What are you guys doing in mhere?"

Bush says, "We're planning World War III ". And the guy says, 
"Really? What's going to happen?" Bush says, "Well, we're going 
to kill 140 million Iraqis and one blonde with big breasts. 
The guy exclaimed, "A blonde with big breasts? Why kill a blonde 
with big breasts?

Bush turns to Powell, punches him on the shoulder and says, 
"See, smartass?!  I told you no one would worry about 140 
million Iraqis!" Live long and prosper.....

Posted by:

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majorquantrell3@hotmail.com (Quantrell) wrote in message news:...
> Diablo  wrote in message news:<210920021721071251%irc-diablo@shaw.ca>...
> > In article , Quantrell
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > > sui_juris@skybiz.com (Jimmy) wrote in message
> > > news:...
> > > > Armand Tanzarian  wrote in message
> > > > news:...
> > > > > It seems that you deplore the political and governmental institutions in 
> > > > > Canada and the USA. All you guys seem to bitch about your lack of 
> > > > > freedom and liberty. Hey, I'm all for improvement, so do tell: Which 
> > > > > country has the model system which the USA and Canada should strive 
> > > > > toward?
> > > > 
> > > > Is there a country who's monetary system isn't controlled by the IMF?
> > > > 
> > > > Jimmy
> > > 
> > > Jimmy,
> > > 
> > > Answer the question put to you!
> > > 
> > > Q
> > 
> > 
> > Diablo) Raider, When questions. . .[pointless bullshit snipped]
> >  
> > But according to Raider, his beloved government can steal your
> > property, through Income Tax,. . . 
> 
> Q) You have asked a loaded question already. Income taxes are not
> theft. They are taxes. I have told you time and again I don't answer
> loaded questions.
> 
> You can save that tactic for the harried government clerks who you
> phone call in ambush because you lack the balls to do anything else.
> 
> Tell us, "Diablo", do you even bother to give them your real name?
> 
> > Diablo) because you supposedly gave them consent. When did we give our consent, Raider?
> 
> Q) Now you pull the strawman fallacy. How many times do I have to
> catch you in these games before you wise up?
> 
> I never said that individuals give there consent to be taxed, and you
> know it.
> 
> So why do you lie?
> 
> I said the people give their consent to be governed.
>  
> > Diablo) If you never PERSONALLY gave consent, please tell us how someone else
> > was given authorization to ACT on your behalf!
> > 
> > Now Raider, YOU answer the question put to you!
> 
> Q) Answer given several times already.
> 
> Your premise is flawed.
> 
> In western democracies the governments govern by the consent of the
> people, not individuals.
> 
> If you would like to change that arrangement you will need to do more
> than post silly childish crap on some backwater message board.

Since when, Idiot, is "PEOPLE" a thing with a voice and a free will 
to think? Since when has a "thing" called PEOPLE had a right to make 
contractual obligations for individual free will men? 

Gad!  Do certainly you pretend to live in a world of fantasy.......

Eldon Warman
http://www.detaxcanada.org


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Perhaps, David, you could enlighten everyone here what the difference 
may be regarding your take of a "conspiracy THEORY", and what might
constitute "FACTUAL PROOF of a conspiracy". I believe I have presented
"FACTs" on this post. Since when does "FACT" become "THEORY"?????
The rant about "conspiracy theories" is pure Zionist bafflegab. Are
you repeating this in ignorance of its source and intended false-speak, 
or are you doing damage control?

And, you babble about "democracy"... The united States of America 
was founded as a "REPUBLIC", not a "DEMOCRACY". I believe you will
find the difference well expounded upon by the FOUNDING FATHERS;
albeit, the National Security Council, in their instruction video 
instructing law enforcement on terrorism, deems the Founding Fathers 
to have been "TERRORISTS"......

Eldon Warman
http://www.detaxcanada.org



"david polanski"  wrote in message news:...
> "EG Warman" wrote "...Welcome to the New World Order of deception,
> assassinations and power grabs". Sad but absolutely true for anyone with an
> open and observant mind. But conspiracy theories, such as the one presented
> by EG Warman, may just be part of all this deception too. Yes it could be
> all  true since we know that the government is feeding us BS and censoring
> information. Equally, it may not be true.
> 
> The point is that citizenry has to get involved with politics, demand answer
> and insight, so that they don't loose control to the manipulators and
> ultimately their freedom.
> 
> /polanski
> 
> "EG Warman"  wrote in message
> news:2005a7f1.0209221620.55ac0741@posting.google.com...
> > Secret US Forces Plan Pretext for Clamp-Down   by Voxfux
> > http://www.VoxFux.com
> >
> > PAGE URL: http://www.gulufuture.com/future/voxfuxsecretforces.htm
> >
> > The following article is no longer on the VoxFux website. As of
> > August 8th, 2002 the entire website content has been removed --
> > leaving only a disclaimer warning that the death of the site
> > operator would be a covert forces assassination.
> >
> > Quote:
> > A thorough scientific analysis of the swirl of events, people,
> > nations, motivations, propaganda, personalities and histories
> > involved in this current moment in history, leads to only one
> > conclusion: That clandestine forces loyal to George Bush Sr.
> > are planning to attack the US population, blame it on Islamic
> > terrorists and use the attacks as a pretext for a total clamp-
> > down on dissent, basic civil liberties, normal democratic
> > processes and in the confusion that will follow they will wage
> > unchecked war and aggression against Iraq, and other nations
> > Islamic and otherwise who have natural resources and
> > particularly oil reserves that this shadowy group of
> > petrochemical and arms industrialists are thirsting for.
> > Their ultimate goal? The conquest of Eurasia.
> >
> > Three quarters of the world's population and resources are
> > to be found on the Eurasian landmass. It has been the principle
> > focus of State Department and military strategists since
> > presidential National Security Advisor, Zbigniew Brzezinski
> > outlined it twenty years ago as the principle American
> > "Imperative."  Meaning: To survive, we MUST conquer. But what
> > of all those nations that we will be conquering? According to
> > Brzezinski and his cabal of adherents in the Military and State
> > Department whom his writings are a biblical tome - it's for
> > their own good.
> >
> > The problem Brzezinski says is that most average American's
> > don't have a taste for crusades of global conquest..  Unless
> > ...there's a sudden threat. In his latest book, The Grand
> > Chessboard, Brzezinski drills his followers no less than four
> > times that only sudden and terrifying threats would rouse
> > Americans to the task of global conquest.
> >
> > With the opening salvo of September 11th behind them,
> > American's are being, "softened up" right now for their first
> > "Dirty Bomb," attack. If there was ever so sinister an imaginary
> > catastrophic device that had been so entirely concocted out of
> > thin air, so heavily promoted in the media and ultimately steered
> > to what will almost certainly be the dramatic conclusion of a
> > self fulfilling media stoked prophecy - to be fabricated first
> > in our imaginations then ignited in the real world - It is the
> > dirty bomb.
> >
> > To make it very clear our analysis is the following: The much
> > vaunted radiological dirty bomb will NOT be dropped on the
> > American population from any Islamic terrorists but from the
> > shadowy group of American intelligence operatives aligned with
> > George Bush Sr. (the father).
> >
> > Americans have been made, "aware," of the dirty bomb for over
> > six months now and have had the dirty bomb "meme" firmly linked
> > to, "Islamic Terrorists."  This is how it's done. It's called
> > the, "Back Story." And it is part of the preparatory propaganda
> > intelligence agencies call a Psy-op (psychological operation).
> > These Psy-ops in actuality comprise nearly 70% of the overall
> > human and capital resources our government devotes to a given
> > geo-strategic objective - only 30% is bullets and bombs. But
> > even with the many millions spent on painting these elaborate
> > Psy-op pictures, it doesn't take a forensic analysis to uncover
> > some troubling clues within them - Something terribly wrong in
> > the picture. Like a Hollywood special effects extravaganza -
> > all glitz but light on story, these psy-ops which accompany
> > the dirty business of America's, industry, military,
> > intelligence triad, are the shoddy screenplays leaving much
> > to be desired.
> >
> > In this case the clues point to only one conclusion. In their
> > race towards global domination these intelligence agencies
> > are preparing to initiate attacks of American population
> > centers. And are laying the preparatory groundwork to make
> > those attacks have maximum political and psychological effect.
> >
> > What follows is a VERY different explanation of the dreadful
> > attacks of 9/11.   The ruling faction of our government can
> > be characterized as being on a "Kill Crazy Rampage." This
> > terrorism is from old rich men who are dying. It is their last
> > salutations to vitality. Their vain old clutching to vigor as
> > it slips away from them. These attacks are from old people to
> > young people, from rich people to poor people. These terrorist
> > attacks are the most expedient and efficient mechanism they
> > have left to jump start their futile push for global
> > domination. 9-11, An inside job? - You better believe it.
> >
> > The lesson of self induced terrorism as a means to seize the
> > American population and stoke them into a war frenzy, is a deep
> > part of the game plan of the masters of George Bush Jr's
> > administration - His father, George Bush Sr and the group
> > of industrialists that he serves. Brzezinski's book is the
> > defacto Bible of the Bush Group and now is standard coffee
> > table decor in every office in the state department and
> > pentagon.
> >
> > At the same time as being an effective means to rally the mass
> > population for the coming wars necessary to impose the
> > industrialist's unwanted arrogant Pax Americana on the world's
> > populations, it is also conveniently and unfathomable a most
> > profitable form of population control as well. With a fear
> > frenzied population under tight control and no need to bow to
> > public opinion or compromise with a reluctant Senate - The sky's
> > the limit on arms sale's and profits. Wherever these shadow
> > groups of private clandestine intelligence operators surface,
> > extraordinary patterns of unexplained "suicides", cancers,
> > car accidents, assassinations, plane crashes, wrecked
> > economies, other accidents, civil wars, oil wars, civil
> > unrests, genocides, suicides and document shreddings, all
> > just...happen.
> >
> > Here's something that happened. - a little back story.
> > This is the extraordinary story of a dinner date. A dinner
> > date that was scheduled to happen on March 31st 1981 - the day
> > following the strange assassination attempt on the life of
> > Ronald Reagan. Reagan was the president. And George Bush Sr,
> > the very ambitious former CIA director from Texas was the
> > Vice President.
> >
> > What makes this dinner date so special that night was its two
> > guests. Hold on to your seats because the following news item
> > should send a chill up your spine. The dinner party was to be
> > held at the home of Neil Bush, the vice president's son.
> > The guest at the dinner party (which was quickly cancelled
> > after news of the failed attempt on the life of the President),
> > was Scott Hinckley, the brother of John Hinckley who just that
> > afternoon fired several shots into Reagan's chest, coming one
> > half inch from putting his bullet into the heart of the
> > President - a half inch from putting his friend's father,
> > George Bush, into the White House.
> >
> > Now let's pause a moment and reflect on that. So far what we
> > have is the son of the Vice President linked to the brother
> > of the guy who just tried to kill the president. Take a moment
> > to absorb that. Go look it up on Google. Type in (neil bush
> > scott hinckley dinner) See for yourself.
> >
> > What was the Bush team's response to this chilling revelation
> > on the planned dinner date? They barricaded themselves behind
> > a wall of the biggest PR Firms in the nation and issued the
> > following statement "This horrible coincidence has been
> > devastating to the Bush Family. Our condolences go out to all
> > involved. And we hope to get the matter behind us as soon as
> > possible." (sic) I should hope so.  If I was the Vice President
> > and I had just masterminded a failed assassination attempt on
> > the President of the United States, I too would hope to "put
> > the matter behind me."
> >
> > The Bush Team decided to go with the story that it was just a
> > bad "coincidence."  In the days that followed, Washington saw
> > the most intensive whitewash of any news item ever whitewashed.
> > What should have been the biggest most investigated story of the
> > 80's was wiped clean from history. They spun it clear off the
> > front, back or middle pages of all the giant newspapers.
> > The only mention of it EVER to appear on national television
> > was a brief comment by NBC's John Chancellor who was absolutely
> > floored by the revelation and mentioned it during his newscast
> > against the wishes of NBC management. NBC quickly jumped in and
> > censored it. And the revelation was NEVER MENTIONED ON ANY
> > TELEVISION SHOW EVER AGAIN.
> >
> > Having no chance to make it into the History Books, the story
> > resurfaced with the advent of the Internet, but something is
> > happening there as well. It's being expunged from the Internet
> > as you read this. In 1999 one could find nearly a thousand
> > independent articles pertaining to this most revealing story,
> > then all of the sudden, one by one the pages and sites
> > relating to the story started to disappear. Today there just
> > a few sites who are keeping the story alive. There used to be
> > thousands of references to it, now there are but paltry few.
> >
> > But wait, It gets better. It was revealed in the days following
> > the shooting that since 1970 both George Bush Sr. and John
> > Hinckley Sr (the father of the assassin) were friends and
> > fellow oil industrialists in Texas and Colorado.  How's that
> > for another coincidence!  Pretty coincidental isn't it?
> >
> > Here's another coincidence, in 1978 Neil Bush lived in Lubbock,
> > Texas while managing his brother George Jr's (our President's)
> > campaign for congress. Guess who else lived in Lubbock that
> > year?   John Hinckley Jr.
> >
> > Is there a chill running down your spine yet? If there isn't,
> > there should be. Normally this many coincidences would sound
> > alarm bells in a normally functioning democracy and there would
> > about a thousand articles in the major media outlets, or there
> > would be at least one fearless soul in congress who would stand
> > up and demand a congressional investigation. Well there actually
> > was. There was only one congressman who defied this force -
> > congressman Larry MacDonald - But guess what? His plane crashed.
> > Many suspect that the infamous Korean Air 007 flight that was
> > shot down by the Soviets as it unexplainably veered into Soviet
> > airspace was an insider deal by heavyweights in the clandestine
> > underworld in exchange for certain unfettered Soviet meddling
> > in places like Central Asia and elsewhere in the following
> > years. That's another coincidence.
> >
> > But back to the tale of two sets of brothers. One press encounter
> > probed the brothers about whether they and Hinckley associated
> > during that time in Lubbock. Both Neil and George (our current
> > President) responded that it was "conceivable that they had
> > associated, however they couldn't recollect." Do you know what
> > that means? It means that at that time the Bush brothers were
> > very aware that there were certain individuals alive in and around
> > Lubbock and possible other places who would be able to refute any
> > flat out denial by the Bushes that they had never met Hinckley.
> > That is why their story had to be that it was, "Conceivable."
> > Otherwise as we all know in typical politician LieSpeak style
> > the Bush boys would simply flat out reject any claims and
> > vehemently deny such a meeting.
> >
> > You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure this one out.
> > You don't have to have a photograph of all three to know they
> > were together in Lubbock. OTHERWISE THEY WOULD HAVE ISSUED FLAT
> > OUT DENIALS. The Bushes' stupid move of the "Conceivable" comment
> > tells the whole story. It also reveals that the Bush boys were as
> > sloppy with their covert operations then as they are now. That
> > being said, I'll leave you with another - Pity the poor persons
> > living in Lubbock who might have been party to or aware of such
> > meetings between the three, because, considering the personalities
> > involved, psychological makeup and history of the Bushes it is
> > in all likelihood that any such person would have long since
> > "committed suicide" or had a "car accident" or "fell out a
> > window." or some such other "accidental" and untimely death.
> > Know Your History.
> >
> > My bet is that even if one were to mount a massive search of all
> > persons who met an untimely death in and around Lubbock from the
> > period from 1981 to 1990 that you may not even find a trace of
> > them in existence any longer. And do you know why? Because that
> > is the Bush specialty. Through executive dominion over public
> > records they carefully and systematically expunge any trace of
> > a person or events in state and federal records systems. If
> > you are the Governor of Texas you simply have your private firm
> > do a routine audit the records systems, locate the records in
> > question, and remove them.
> >
> > There is no one on a state level who would even have he power
> > to challenge you. That's what Bush Sr. spent a great deal of time
> > and effort doing while he was Vice President and President. First
> > expunging his father Prescott's nasty little deeds from the
> > records, then his own. Looks like the son learned his lessons
> > well. That's what they are doing right now - Deleting, rewriting
> > and expunging history. And they are doing it openly. Just try to
> > exercise your Freedom of Information rights. Fat chance.
> >
> > The Bush group never believably accounted for that chillingly
> > unexplained dinner date. The mainstream press has NEVER visited
> > that story since. It remains one of the most chilling examples of
> > the power of the new dark hand to crush real events that really
> > happened, essentially to shape history at will.  Welcome to the
> > New World Order of deception, assassinations and power grabs. ..
> >
> > Those who float to the top of this shadowy world like George Bush
> > Sr can, at will, launch terror strikes at the American people and
> > watch the twisted irony as their popularity soars. It's the oldest
> > formula in the book - the more American citizens they secretly kill
> > and maim the more popular they become. The more soldiers they put
> > in harms way for their own personal vendetta's and profit motives
> > the more fabulously wealthy they become. It's a classic formula
> > by now. It works EVERY time. One needs only to examine the history
> > of the fabulously wealthy Bushes since the turn of last century and
> > you will see that it is their formula for arms and oil profits.
> >
> > Shadowy, "Public Relations," heavyweights like the Bechtel Group,
> > Wackenhut and a certain now infamous Carlyle group invest heavily
> > only in eventualities that lead to the use of force to control
> > populations. Wackenhut is a government contractor with deep ties
> > to both intelligence agencies and the military. This private
> > contractor is responsible for among other things running America's
> > prison system. They also have their own very lethal private army
> > - ditto for Bechtel Group. There needs to be an index graphing
> > corporations according to statistics such as, say.... how many
> > Automatic weapons their "Public Relations" group owns. (That
> > issue needs to be on a national referendum along with a few
> > others I'll suggest later.)
> >
> > End of part #1 - See Part #2
> >
> > Posted by:
> >
> > Eldon Warman
> > http://www.detaxcanada.org


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"We don't need evidence. We know he's guilty." 

The President of the United States, George Walker Bush, 2001 & 2002 

(in reference to Osama bin Laden)

This paper was prepared by students from Northwestern University Law 
School and the University of Chicago Law School. 

We believe this paper will ultimately be faxed, mailed and e-mailed 
to several million Americans. For this reason, we have chosen to 
write in a style and format that is easily understood by readers at 
all levels. 

This paper has one aim: To show that ample evidence exists to issue 
an indictment against former President George Herbert Walker Bush 
(#41, father of George W. Bush) for the crime of murder in regard 
to the people who perished in terrorist attacks in the United States 
on September 11, 2001. 

This paper details two separate pieces of incriminating circumstantial 
evidence and concludes with a call for immediate action to be taken 
against George H.W. Bush, former U.S. President and former Director 
of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). 
 
Evidence #1

Premise:  The operational structure of both the terrorist attacks on 
September 11, 2001 and the assassination of former President John 
Fitzgerald Kennedy were exactly the same. In both cases, means, 
method and motive can be attributed to George H.W. Bush. Also, it 
can be demonstrated that Mr. Bush was a prime beneficiary of both 
murderous crimes. 

The following is an overview of the 6-point parallel between the 
two operations: 

1. South Vietnam President Diem assassinated = Northern Alliance 
Leader Massoud assassinated 

2. CIA gains control of South Vietnamese military = CIA gains 
control of Northern Alliance military 

3. JFK's head explodes = World Trade Center and Pentagon explode 

4. Lee Harvey Oswald (used as a patsy) = Osama bin Laden (used as 
a patsy) 

5. War in Vietnam = War in Afghanistan/War on Terror 

6. Bush family benefits the most (Prescott and George H.W.) 
= Bush family benefits the most (George H.W. and George W.) 

Details:  On November 2, 1963 -- less than three weeks before JFK 
was murdered -- the CIA assassinated Ngo Dinh Diem, then President 
of South Vietnam. Diem was eliminated because he was a major obstacle 
for the CIA/U.S. military to wage war with North Vietnam. Diem 
represented the elite Catholics, and 75% of South Vietnam was 
Buddhist. His repressive policies toward the Buddhists alienated 
them, and the CIA felt that a new leader was needed to draft and 
train millions of South Vietnamese ground troops. 

On September 9, 2001 -- just two days before the attacks on 9/11 
-- General Ahmed Shah Massoud, head of Afghanistan's Northern 
Alliance, was assassinated by CIA contract agents posing as 
journalists. Massoud was eliminated because he was a major 
obstacle for the CIA/U.S. military to wage war in Afghanistan on 
CIA terms.  The CIA wanted to direct the theater of war in 
Afghanistan, and upon victory it was not in the CIA's interest to 
have Massoud play a central role in the newly created government. 
At present, the new interim Afghanistan government is dominated 
by individuals who are intimately connected to the oil industry. 

Placing Mr. Bush at or near both crimes: In the 1963 Dallas case 
Mr. Bush was separated from JFK's alleged assassin by one degree: 
George DeMohrenschildt. George DeMohrenschildt was Lee Harvey 
Oswald's best friend. Mr. Bush and George DeMohrenschildt exchanged 
hundreds of letters, hundreds of phone calls, and had dozens of 
meetings both before and after JFK's assassination. 

General Edward Lansdale was a CIA covert operations specialist who 
ran the JFK assassination operation. (To see a photo of him at 
Dealey Plaza on November 22, 1963, search "Lansdale" and "Tramp 
Photos" on the Web.) George H.W. Bush's father, Prescott Bush, was 
separated from Gen. Lansdale by one degree: Allen Dulles. (It was 
Allen Dulles who chose not to mention Gen. Edward Lansdale in the 
Warren Commission Report. This demonstrates a conspiracy.) Allen 
Dulles and Prescott Bush were loyal friends and business partners 
in a relationship spanning several decades. 

Placing George H.W. Bush at the current center of American power 
is not difficult. Although he claims to be "out of the line," U.S. 
media have reported that Mr. Bush spends nearly every weekend at 
Camp David meeting with top National Security officials. Also, 
Mr. Bush spent the night at the White House on September 10, 2001, 
and left less than two hours before the attacks on September 11th. 

Motive:  JFK represented a major obstacle for a Bush family member 
to attain the U.S. Presidency. With JFK eliminated, Prescott 
Bush's protege, Richard Nixon, did become President, and thus began 
a series of choice appointments for George H.W. Bush, which would 
ultimately lead to the Bush family dynasty. Prescott Bush was 
Nixon's political Godfather; it was Prescott who paired Eisenhower 
with Nixon, 1952-1960. 

Evidence #2

Premise:  The group of men in power at the White House when the 
terrorist attacks struck on September 11, 2001 is the exact same 
group of men who were in power at the White House when the 
military coup d'etat occurred in Chile on September 11, 1973. 
Also, the defining characteristic of both operations is exactly 
the same (i.e., jets blowing up large buildings). 

Details:  George H.W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and 
Colin Powell all began their "White House careers" working in 
Richard Nixon's Administration. These four men worked for 
President Nixon at the same time and knew each other well. 

After the coup in Chile on September 11, 1973, President Nixon 
was ecstatic. He considered it the finest military coup in history, 
and he watched with glee the video of Hawker Hunter jets dropping 
their bombs and firing their rockets at the Chilean presidential 
palace, blowing it apart in broad daylight. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, 
and Powell were very aware of how pleased Nixon was with the 
operation. 

Investigators of serial murder cases look for similarities in such 
crimes to establish a pattern. A definitive pattern exists between 
the attack in Chile on September 11, 1973, and the attacks on 
September 11, 2001. In a very real sense, 9/11/01 seems to be a 
kind of calling card saying, "We remember you, Mr. Nixon." 

A Call to Action

The Law is in a hypersensitive state at the present time. Normal 
civil and criminal jurisprudence is quickly giving way to War Laws. 
It is consistent with actions taken against thousands of individuals, 
both foreign and American citizens, regarding the War on Terror, to 
arrest and indict George Herbert Walker Bush based on the evidence 
presented in this paper. The charge is murder. (Save treason for 
later -- it's difficult to prove.) 

Under the Patriot Act, any of Mr. Bush's records kept at his home 
in Kennebunkport, his private 10,000-acre training camp in South 
Carolina, and his personal underground bunker on Deer Island in 
New York should be seized immediately. All notes and minutes of 
meetings he's had with top intelligence officers and other 
government officials at Camp David over the past 18 months must 
be confiscated as well. 

In 1997 the Central Intelligence Agency named its headquarters 
"The George Bush Center for Intelligence." And for good reason -- 
George H.W. Bush was and is the central figure of all American 
and world intelligence circles. Arresting George H.W. Bush will 
effectively and quantifiably cut him "out of the loop" and "out 
of the line," especially regarding any schemes or designs he may 
have planned for America following the November 2002 elections. 

Unquote

Posted by:

Eldon Warman
http://www.detaxcanada.org


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majorquantrell3@hotmail.com (Quantrell) wrote in message news:...
> egwarman@outgun.com (EG Warman) wrote in message news:<2005a7f1.0209221754.51a2f13e@posting.google.com>...
> > majorquantrell3@hotmail.com (Quantrell) wrote in message news:...
> > > Diablo  wrote in message news:<210920021721071251%irc-diablo@shaw.ca>...
> > > > In article , Quantrell
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > sui_juris@skybiz.com (Jimmy) wrote in message
> > > > > news:...
> > > > > > Armand Tanzarian  wrote in message
> > > > > > news:...
> > > > > > > It seems that you deplore the political and governmental institutions in 
> > > > > > > Canada and the USA. All you guys seem to bitch about your lack of 
> > > > > > > freedom and liberty. Hey, I'm all for improvement, so do tell: Which 
> > > > > > > country has the model system which the USA and Canada should strive 
> > > > > > > toward?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Is there a country who's monetary system isn't controlled by the IMF?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Jimmy
> > > > > 
> > > > > Jimmy,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Answer the question put to you!
> > > > > 
> > > > > Q
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Diablo) Raider, When questions. . .[pointless bullshit snipped]
> > > >  
> > > > But according to Raider, his beloved government can steal your
> > > > property, through Income Tax,. . . 
> > > 
> > > Q) You have asked a loaded question already. Income taxes are not
> > > theft. They are taxes. I have told you time and again I don't answer
> > > loaded questions.
> > > 
> > > You can save that tactic for the harried government clerks who you
> > > phone call in ambush because you lack the balls to do anything else.
> > > 
> > > Tell us, "Diablo", do you even bother to give them your real name?
> > > 
> > > > Diablo) because you supposedly gave them consent. When did we give our consent, Raider?
> > > 
> > > Q) Now you pull the strawman fallacy. How many times do I have to
> > > catch you in these games before you wise up?
> > > 
> > > I never said that individuals give there consent to be taxed, and you
> > > know it.
> > > 
> > > So why do you lie?
> > > 
> > > I said the people give their consent to be governed.
> > >  
> > > > Diablo) If you never PERSONALLY gave consent, please tell us how someone else
> > > > was given authorization to ACT on your behalf!
> > > > 
> > > > Now Raider, YOU answer the question put to you!
> > > 
> > > Q) Answer given several times already.
> > > 
> > > Your premise is flawed.
> > > 
> > > In western democracies the governments govern by the consent of the
> > > people, not individuals.
> > > 
> > > If you would like to change that arrangement you will need to do more
> > > than post silly childish crap on some backwater message board.
> > 
> > Since when, Idiot, is "PEOPLE" a thing with a voice and a free will 
> > to think? Since when has a "thing" called PEOPLE had a right to make 
> > contractual obligations for individual free will men? 
> > 
> > Gad!  Do certainly you pretend to live in a world of fantasy.......
> > 
> > Eldon Warman
> > http://www.detaxcanada.org
> 
> Q 2) Eldon, your laughable misapplication of the concepts of contract
> law to civil government have brought you nothing but ruin. You are
> hardly one to give lectures or set standards around here.
> 
> The fantasy you weave in your cheapo web site and your now
> discontinued seminars may fool the detax retards around here, but it
> doesn't fool the courts of the real world. . . and it doesn't fool me.
> 
> Like the rest of the detax retards around here, you base your
> conclusion on a premise you can't defend. The crowning irony of your
> psychotic babble is that you intone Jeffersonian and Locke, not
> realizing that they never intended a contract between the government
> and each person.
> 
> In the end this is why you play professor to detax dolts. . .so they
> will assume a disproven lie to be true.

To the IDIOT Mass Murderer:  Please define in any historical documents 
of the USA where there was provision made for a "civil government" 
within the USA? Checking out ant law dictionary you wish, I sincerely
suspect that it will confirm that the concept of "civil government" 
derives from Pax Romina - Roman Law. 

I know for a fact that the text of the California Constitution 
specifically forbids any form of continental European Common Law, 
and declares that ONLY Ango-Saxon common Law shall be the basis of 
law in California. And, I know that Anglo-Saxon Common Law has 
NOTHING to do with Roman Law "civil governments".

So folks, you either accept the vile words of this Luciferian
Zionist and his defense of plans to not only just make you tax
slaves, but defends those who would subject you to the type of
holocaust that the Jews claim happened to them perpetrated by 
the Zionist, Adolf Hitler/Schickelgruber/Mayer - Or, you can pay 
attention to the "detax dolts" who don't buy into the mass
extermination of humanity on Planet Earth planned by the mad and 
suicidal homosexuals of the Jesuit controlled Zionist mafia.

Eldon Warman
http://www.detaxcanada.org



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