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From: Eldon Warman 
Subject: Re: Idiotic  Discussions
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> Mr. Warman, could you please point out which particular "foreign
> powers" are attempting to destroy Canada ??
ANSWER:  If you care to look up the historical evidence surrounding the
"Ship Money" incident in England around 1635 which got Charles 1st
beheaded and 8 judges convicted of treason, you will find that it isn't
necessarily "who" is the foreign power; but the "what" of a foreign
power that is depicted as TREASON against the SOVEREIGN. PAX ROMINA
(dictator's law) is foreign to the Anglo-Saxon Common Law which we
inherited as a birthright. In Common Law, there are RIGHTS, in Pax
Romina, there are NONE.

> I am surmising you are going to endear yourself the group by
> racially slurring the Jewish faith "again" by stating it is the "New
World Order" led by the Israeli's !
ANSWER:  The JEWS who follow the Cabalist Philosophies of the Zionist
and the Illuminatti are SATANISTS.  They are NOT of the JEWISH FAITH.
The JEWISH Faith worships GOD in the Name of YHVH, and the OBSERVE and
OBEY the LAW. Any Rabbe will confirm to you that THE LAW is the
NEGATIVE GOLDEN RULE. The NEGATIVE GOLDEN RULE is the sole basis of the
Anglo Saxon Common Law.  MY FAITH IS THE JEWISH FAITH - PLUS!

> I believe Canada has been around since the 1860's; at which age is
> Canada no longer considered embryonic ??
ANSWER: Did you not read mt exerct from the letter from Lord Monck, the
first Governor General of Canada to his superior, which stated that
Canada WAS NOT FEDERATED. Can you not read the plain text of the
Statute of Westminster, Section 7, in which the British Parliament did
not recognize the existence of a federated Canada or of a federal
government? Can you come up with ANY evidence that the People of Canada
did ANYTHING to rectify that situation? From my geologic knowledge,
Canada has been here - in its present state of being a political
entity, for about 600,000,000 years; that is as a piece of more or less
dry land on the planet earth.  Canada will no longer be embryonic when
we have an articles (contract) of confederation and a reatified
constitution in place.

Eldon Warman
Detax Author and Consultant

P.S/ Other than your IDIOTIC and EVIL attempt at painting me with your
crappy "anti-semitic" paint brush, your questions have evoked answers
that MAY prod a FEW peoples eyes open. Remember, you are not going to
get anywhere attempting to brand a SEMITE as being "anti-semitic".

So, why don't you try reporting to my e-mail server
(egwarman@hotmail.com)that you received an "offensive" e-mail message? 
Maybe they'll shut down that account, and, without offering any proof
of such a message. Oh! You already did that?  Hmmmmm......
No problem!  Free e-mail service is sooo easy to obtain - and, likely
with much better service than MSN's HotMail.


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From egwarmanNOegSPAM@hotmail.com.invalid Fri Oct 22 16:43:55 EDT 1999
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In article , "David Smith"
 wrote:
> Eldon,  (From:  David Sherman)
> Would those be the same STRAWMEN that are sending Keith Medcalf to
> jail for failing to file tax returns?
ANSWER:  DAMNED RIGHT! TREASONOUS THUGS ALL! AND ALL ON AN "ASSUMPSIT
CONTRACT" WHICH FRAUDULENTLY "OUTLAWED" HIM BY CONVERTING HIM TO A
SUPPOSED ARTIFICIAL PERSON CALLED A "TAXPAYER".
I'm sure you are just showing your ZIONIST colours by implying in a
gloating manner that these "strawmen" have the POWER to inflict
punishment for those people who disobey. Not unusual for someone who
supports the wiles of the dictator.  You must look grand in your
Gestapo SS uniform!

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From egwarmanNOegSPAM@hotmail.com.invalid Fri Oct 22 16:43:55 EDT 1999
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john@loukidelis.com (John H. Loukidelis) wrote:
> I wonder if you could tell us more about these "'foreign powers'".
> Who are they, and what are they up to?  It's not strictly relevant
> to a tax NG, but what the heck!

ANSWER: Check out the historical evidence of what constitutes a
"foreign power" which is contrary to the Anglo-Saxon Common Law, by
looking up: Ship Money, John Hamden, and the story of the reasons
behind beheading Charles 1st. Read the reasons why 8 judges of the
Exchequer Court were found guilty of treason for "Bringing dishonour to
the Crown and imposing a form of law foreign to the Law of England."

The California State Constitution makes it very clear in its preamble
that Common Law other than Anglo-Saxon Common Law are foreign to the
laws of California.  It is ONLY in Anglo-Saxon Common Law that RIGHTS
are entrenched for each and every human being.

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jenuths@homacjen.ab.ca wrote:

> My suggestion is that the provinces were not independent, and that 
they were in fact colonies of Britain.  The BNA Act created a new
country greater than the sum of the former colonies.  It granted powers
to taxation, etc to the federal government and the provinces.

COMMENT: Hey!  Jenuths, You've almost got it right! The BNA Act did'nt
create a new 'country", it just created a "super-colony".  The Statute
of Westminster was instigated by a Canadian Delegation (Roger Smith,
et.al.) to the Locarno Treaty negotiations (1926) after they were
kicked out of the negotiations because Canada was not recognized as an
independent country.

> Both provinces and the federal government have the power to levy
> an income tax.

COMMENT:  WRONG! Neither does.  Both are "STRAWMEN" and IMPOSTOR
hoaxes. Such does not have "rights", especially to confiscate the
SOVEREIGN's property - money you gained by exchanging your labour and
skills (property).

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In article <37ff5b4a.50776813@news1.on.sympatico.ca>,
kmedcalf@des_sus.nospam.com (Keith Medcalf) wrote:
> This is a nice theory, however, it cannot be reconciled with either
Historical Fact nor with the position which has been put forth by 
either the Privy Council nor the Supreme Court of Canada in discussions
regarding the "Creation" of the Confederation of the Provinces called
Canada.
> The long and the short of it is that the British North American 
Colonies (Provinces) wished to form a Union in which certain powers
were transferred from each of the Provinces to the Central body in
order to provide for matters of benefit to the entire whole (ie,
commonly to all Provinces).

COMMENT: 'Tis True, they "wished to do that"; however, the British
Parliament didn't include that "wish" in the bill that passed theough
Parliament in March of 1867.  The historical evidence is there. Canada
is NOT a formal UNION.

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In article ,
jenuths@homacjen.ab.ca wrote:

[Noah snipped it]

> To use an analogy:
> Perhaps there was a definition of "person" in an Act.
> "Person" means any person and for greater certainty includes
> Mary.
> Lets assume that Mary is a woman.
> And you decide to argue (as some have) that only men are persons,
> does this mean that Mary is not included in the definition of
> person.
> Or does it mean that Mary is a person no matter what "Person"
> means.
> The former is what you continue to argue.  The latter is what I
> argue.

At one time, you had intimated that you were a little *rusty* on your
Latin. Where does the word "person" come from? From what I understand,
the word is a dirivitive of "persona". Persona represents the mask, no?
If so, then we can rightly assume that Mary, as a *person* is a
state-created entity, *not* Mary, the natural flesh 'n' blood female of
Man.  That being the case, then you're arguing correctly; however, I
believe that the *former* has more to do with the flesh 'n' blood Mary,
than the "person" known as Mary to the state; for, the "person known as
Mary" is entirely different that the flesh 'n' blood *Mary*. *Mary* may
choose to be a "person" if she so wishes; but, who are we to say that
Mary *must* be a person, as defined by the state?

> --
> Best regards,
> Stephen Jenuth
> (jenuths@homacjen.ab.ca)
> Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.



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In article <939525017.360091@neptune.uniserve.ca>, "James"
 wrote:
> So considering I have not filed nor paid taxes since 83, why have
I not been taken to court and put in jail? It make me wonder if there
is some  truth in what the DeTax and untax guys have to say.

Comment from Detax Canada:

Go to my webpage at: http://www.detaxcanada.org and ask for my full
detax program - it's free.

You need to get up to speed on how to protect the rights you have
obviously established. ALL correspondence you have received from
Revenue Canada MUST be properly voided; or, these thug judges we have
in Canada could hang you by the use of "TACIT CONCENT". It would also
be a good idea to have a trespass warning on file with the Minister of
National Revenue, should you have to use "the force necessary" to stop
theft and extortion of your property by Revenue Canada. Protection of
yourself and your property is part of the basics rights within Common
Law.

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In article , "Mike
D'Abramo"  wrote:
Does anyone know how I can acquire recent one?  I cannot seem to find a
copy on the web. Thank you in advance.

Comment:  If you are talking about "Where income tax goes", may i
suggest you check out this webpage. It is American; but, the
information applies equally to Canada.
http://www.se1.com/usp/taxgate/docs/ruml.htm

Eldon Warman
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In article ,
jenuths@homacjen.ab.ca wrote:
> In can.legal Noah  wrote:
> > Ok, you and I both know, very well, that it was not dead. The
> point I
> > was trying to make was that the Privy Council was a *British*
> court. As
> > such, the Privy Council was "lawfully" done away with done away
> > *immediately* upon the signing of the Statute of Westminster,
> 1931;
> That is simply not correct.  While the Statute of Westminster made
> Canada completely independent, it did not change ordinary laws.
> It simply declared that from then on, the British Parliament would
> no longer pass laws which had effect in Canada, and that the
> Parliament
> of Canada had full power to make laws of extra-territorial
> application.
> See sections 2 to 4.
> The right of subjects to appeal to the soveriegn from the decisions
> of the courts continued.  Effectively, this appeal went to the
> Privy
> Council which advised the sovereign on disposition of appeals.
> This ended in 1949 when the Parliament of Canada exercised its
> jurisdiction and ended appeals to the sovereign and instead vested
> all of that jurisdiction in the Supreme Court of Canada.

Agreed; however, *who* appoints the judges of the SCC, hmmm?

> Some old english laws still apply in Canada.  For example,
> annulments
> in Alberta are still done under the Divorce and Matrimonial Causes
> Act, 1857.
> > even though the *feds* would like us to believe that it was
> *they*,
> > which did away with the Privy Council at the end of the '40's;
> because
> > it was felt that Canada should have her own highest court -
> hence the
> > bringing of the Supreme Court of Canada to the forefront and the
> doing
> > away with the Privy Council.

> I don't think the "feds" care what you or I think.  It is very old
> news.

For now, counsellor, that may be the case. But news changes with the
times.

> > Now, counsellor, assuming you are are aware of the *barrings* of
> any
> > British "rules" upon the people of Canada, how do you account
> for the
> > Privy Council decisions being able to be used as precedence in
> Canadian
> > judiciary proceedings?

> The Courts base their rulings on those of the courts which went
> before
> them.  This leads to certainty, and certainty is certainly good
> when
> you deal with courts.
> We don't want to be in a position where the results of similar
> cases
> are completely different.
> > You say that it is because the Privy Council
> > "ruled" in 1924 that the Federal Government had the power to
> levy and
> > collect a federal income tax.
> Yes, see Caron v. the Queen.
> > If that be true, then produce for me,
> > please, the evidence which supports that the Parliament of
> Canada gave
> > permission to the Parliament of the United Kingdom to allow the
> > enforcement of its laws upon the people of Canada *after* the
> Statute
> > of Westminster was enacted. IMHO, if no such *permission*
> existed, then
> > any decision of the Privy Council, before the statute is moot.
> See the Statute of Westminister and the sections I have referred
> to.
> You will not find any law by the Parliament of Canada or a
> provincial
> legislature, or the British Parliament which says that lower courts
> must follow higher ones in subsequent cases.
> This is just part of the common law.

Yeah, and I've got some real good land in Florida for sale too. *If*
you are correct, then why does every Provincial judge, when confronted
with the Caron case, simply shrink in his black shell? Are you saying
that were a Provincial judge to *ignore* the Caron case, that s/he
would not suffer the wrath of the rest of the "brothers"?

> In any event, the Supreme Court of Canada has recently held that
> direct taxation is within the power of the federal government.  See
> the GST reference.

As I have stated before, IMHO, it was a politically-correct decision,
*not* a judicially-correct one. To back-up my beliefs, I point you to
the *amendment* made in the Constitution Act, 1982, regarding the power
for the Parliament to *terminate* any judge, so long as the Leader has
a majority government... or did I read that one wrong, too? Tell me
something honestly, counsellor, say you were a judge; do you really
expect me to believe that *you* would simply pass-over all the fabulous
perks associated with the possibility of *heading up* one of those
lucrative Royal Commission appointments, or let alone your healthy
pension? And, we thought that the judiciary was independent. It would
appear, IMHO, *that* independency only extends if there is not a
majority government in Ottawa.

Noah

> --
> Best regards,
> Stephen Jenuth
> (jenuths@homacjen.ab.ca)
> Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.



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Subject: Re: Keith Medcalf's Big Day October 13, 1999
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jenuths@homacjen.ab.ca wrote:

> No doubt the learned judge summed things up pretty well.  Keith
> has a high level of scholarhsip and sophistication, but his
> arguments are simply wrong.
Comment: I'm afraid you are correct. I did my damnedest to convince
himKeith that constitutional arguments were futile. The Canadian
Constitution is as bogus as is the Federal Government of Canada; and,
the Queen of Canada - total crap. The Canadian People - as the
Sovereign of Canada, have given official sanction to none of these.

> And now we have yet another case to support Caron.
Comment:  It doesn't support Caron - it supports the fact that the
judge made full use of the axiom of law that 'law cannot interfere in
the property right (contracts)'. The income tax is part of the contract
which changed Keith from a natural person to a legal entity called a
taxpayer. Since he did nothing to void that fraudulent and thus
voidable contract, he is subject to the terms of that contract - the
Income Tax Act of Canada.

> If people want to get rid of income tax, perhaps it should
> be done through political action.
Comment: Contracts cannot be obliterated by politics or politicians.
The income tax can only be eliminated by the injured party choosing to
void the bad contract in a timely manner.

Some will argue income taxes are necessary to maintain our society.
Comment: Have you refused to read New York Federal Reserve Bank
President Ruml's speech of 1946? He says , and the Grace commission of
around 1983 both say that income tax pays for NO services.
http://www.se1.com/usp/taxgate/docs/ruml.html

Others will argue that no income taxes, or perhaps no taxes, are best.
Comment:  I a country as rich as Canada is in resources and skilled
people, there is absolutely NO need for ANY taxation upon the People.
What kind of warped mind concludes that it is "good for the People" to
pay taxes? Get serious, Folks!

> If people want to get rid of Canada's support of nuclear war
> (and I don't know what that is), the proper manner is not to
> refuse to file income tax returns (and not get the GST tax
> credit, etc.), but rather to take political action to get
> people elected who will support this point of view.
Comment:  There have been very good articles on "direct" vs "indirect"
action to change anything. "indirect" is totally diversionary and
useless in the face of powerful special interest groups and powerful
control groups. "Direct" action, however inadequate, moves mountains -
indirect sidetracts and addles minds.

> Others have a perfect right to argue the opposite and suggest
> that the presence of nuclear weapons has advanced the cause of
> peace. Voter will decide who is right.
Comment:  That would be a fair statement if we had binding referenda;
however, to vote for preselected lackies is just an exercise in
futility. NO Canadian has voted for a Canadian government since 1931.
1932 brought in voter registration - join the club. All so-called
bodies politic are not "persons" as defined by Blackstone.  No
sovereign has bestowed "personhood" upon them. They are ALL BOGUS!

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In article <38028184.37246737@news.calgary.telusplanet.net>,
fredg@his.com (Fred Grosby) wrote:
> There you go again, Eldon, insisting that there is only one way to
> do it, and that it be somebody else's way.  Like the song said, it
> ain't necessarily so.  There's more than one way to gin up a
>legitimate government.

Comment; Guess you refer to your good buddies Adolf Hitler, Lenin,
Stalin, Mao, etc. as implementing other ways to implement a
"legitimate" government.  So, that's what you advocate for Canada??

> Besides, that articles of confederation stuff has already been
> tried before.  Monumental failure, it was.  Paid hell with internal
> trade, for one thing.  Got dumped a few years later for what turned
> out to be a rather successful system.
COMMENT:  USURPED POWER and dictatorship is a successful system?

I guess that's the direction in which you would like to see Canada go,
seeing as you keep using terms such as "constitutional convention",
"articles of confederation", and the like.
COMMENT:  Yeah!  Pretty shitty concepts, EH? How stupid of me to think
Canadians have enough intelligence to handle such things that only
"ELITISTS" have the super intelligence and knowhow to do.

 Here's one of the headers from your message:
> X-Originating-Host: 209.197.141.166
> Run a WHOIS on that address and here's what pops up:
> Cybersurf Corp. (NETBLK-CYBERSURF-BLK)
>    312, 1212 - 31 Ave NE
>    Calgary, AB T2E 7S8
>    CA
> So I guess if folks were looking to complain about an e-mail
> message of yours, they might choose to complain to the service from
> which the message *really* originated.  Maybe to:
> Coordinator:
>       Albanese, Steve  (SA309-ARIN)  steve.albanese@CYBERSURF.NET
>       (403) 777 2000
> People aren't stupid sheep, Eldon ...
> ---
> Fred Grosby
> fredg@his.com  www.his.com/~fandl/fred.html

COMMENT:  I agree. The Canadian People are NOT stupid sheep. And, they
are waking up to the fact that your ilk have gone too far.
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Subject: Re: Keith Medcalf's Big Day October 13, 1999 {David Sherman}
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David,

How can you be sure the judge in the Medcalf case was honest,
truthful and just in his decision?  How can you be sure that
the crown attorney(ies) were truthful in their presented evidence.

Most judges and lawyers are either Jewish or Freemasons, are they not?

I found an interesting webpage that may pose a question as to whether
any Canadian can get a fair hearing in a Canadian court. It can be
found at: http://ptrc.net/oath.html

Something about the prayer of "Kol Nidre". I quote from that webpage:

"The prayer of "KOL NIDRE" is found in Vol. 8, page 539 of the Jewish
Encyclopedia. It states:

"All vows, obligations, oaths, anthems, whether called Konan, konas, or
by any other name, by which we may be bound, from this day of atonement
unto the next... we do repent. May they be deemed absolved, forgiven,
annulled and void, and made of no effect. They shall not bind us nor
have any power over us. The vows shall not be reckoned vows; the
obligations shall not be obligatory, nor the oaths be oaths."

And quoting regarding the Freemasons:

The Mason's have a similar absurd dishonor for oaths. Page 183 of the
Masonic Handbook states: Whenever you see any of our signs made by a
brother Mason, and especially the grand hailing sign of distress, you
must always be sure to obey them, even at the risk of your life. If
you're on a jury, and the defendant is a Mason and makes the grand
hailing sign, you must obey it; you must disagree with your brother
jurors, if necessary, but you must be sure not to bring the Mason
guilty, for that would bring disgrace upon our order. You must conceal
all crimes of your brother Masons except murder and treason, and these
at your own option, and should you be summoned as a witness against a
brother Mason, be always sure to shield him. Prevaricate, don't tell
the truth in this case, keep his secrets, forget the important points.
It may be perjury to do this true, but you are keeping your
obligations."

Is this authentic? Or is it "hate literature? Hateing our oppressors,
that is....  I didn't post that webpage.

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Glad you asked!  Section VII covers the supposedly-independent
judicature of Canada. My careful reading of sections 95 thru 101 leads
me to the conclusion that:  if judges are supposedly appointed by the
Governor-General *and* the Governor-General is appointed by the Prime
Minister, I cannot help but conclude that a government with a majority
in both houses *can* remove a judge anytime that government wishes to. 
On your comment of the Royal Commisssions:  I find it hard to swallow,
that the per diem fees enjoyed by those that head-up the commissions is
taxing on them. Therefore, IMHO, were a judge to rule *against* the
government on an important issue - and without a doubt the GST was such
an issue - his or her chances of being appointed by the *same*
executive that appoints the Governor-General to head-up a *commission*,
s/he is not likely to be given the "plum". This is why, I feel strongly
that Canadians will only have a "fair and impartial" hearing, when this
type of *impartiality* is decapitated. Only then, will a Canadian man
or woman, walking into a Canadian courtroom, be even a bit hopeful that
his/her case will *not* be ruled on a political basis; such as I feel
is exactly what happened, yesterday, with the Keith Medcalf motion. It
is no excuse for the judiciary to dismiss a case on the support that
there is an abundance of legal authority.  Legal yes?  Lawful?  I
highly doubt it.  A *completely* independent judicature is what
Canadians need; a judicature that features not *one* Canadian
lawyer-turned-judge sitting. This is what our mother country citizens
are entitled to, since the United Kingdom is a member of the European
Court. Canada, on the otherhand, has apparently no responsiblity to
anyone *higher authority*.  It is a highly-suspicious judicature that
only allows appeals to the highest court in the land; especially when
that higher court has no *higher* court to be responsible to.  Such a
judicial structure has no business even classifying itself as a
*court*, IMHO, it is best called a Admiralty forum. Remember the
commercial about the chocolate bar; the one where one actor says, "It's
my boat!".  Remember?  Well, that's about where the Canadian judicial
system is at. If you don't like it, then you can just get out and swim.
If you drown, too bad. You should have not pissed off the Captain of
the ship! Courts of political pleasure were supposedly done away with,
with the Star Chamber, centuries ago, were they not?  My question is,
when did the Star Chamber get revived?  But, even of more interest to
me, is *how* the Star Chamber came back to life, with very few
Canadians realizing it happened? Just out of curiosity, how the hell
are Canadians suppose to be able to *believe* that our judicial system
is unreproachable, hmmm?  Especially, when the case is indexed as
PUBLIC, JOHN Q vs The Queen.  I tell you, sir, it is an insult of the
highest proportion to try a Canadian before a judge that gets his/her
paycheck signed by the very fiction that PUBLIC, JOHN Q is up against.
Balderdash, sir, to your promulgation that the judges are
*independent*... balderdash.



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Sounds pretty good, Noah.

For your consideration: Statute of Westminster (1931):
(Easily found on Alta Vista canadian search.)
2. (1) The Colonial Laws Validity Act, 1865, shall not apply to any law
made after the commencement of this Act by the Parliament of a Dominion.

(2) No law and no provision of any law made after the commencement of
this Act by the Parliament of a Dominion shall be void or inoperative
on the ground that it is repugnant to the law of England, or to the
provisions of any existing or future Act of Parliament of the United
Kingdom, or to any order, rule, or regulation made under any such Act,
and the powers of the Parliament of a Dominion shall include the power
to repeal or amend any such Act, order, rule or regulation in so far as
the same is part of the law of the Dominion.

7. (1) Nothing in this Act shall be deemed to apply to the repeal,
amendment or alteration of the British North America Acts, 1867 to
1930, or any order, rule or regulation made thereunder.

(2) The provisions of section two of this Act shall extend to laws made
by any of the Provinces of Canada and to the powers of the legislatures
of such Provinces.

(3) The powers conferred by this Act upon the Parliament of Canada or
upon the legislatures of the Provinces shall be restricted to the
enactment of laws in relation to matters within the competence of the
Parliament of Canada or of any of the legislatures of the Provinces
respectively.

Comment: Section 2 gives all legislative authority over to the former
dominions - sovereignty (authority to rule, or make rules and decrees).

We see in Section 7(2) that that privilege applies to the Provinces,
and provincial legislatures in Canada.
Section 7(3). Conferred powers are mentioned for the Parliament of
Canada; however, in the previous section, power was conferred on the
Provinces. See any conflict of logic here?

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Why not save 100% on taxes?

Try this webpage: http://www.detaxcanada.org

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I don't keep records - in respectof the privacy of those who are using
my program; however, you could go to my webpage at:
http://www.detaxcanada.org and read my Guest Book. There's a quite a
few testimonials there.

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Not to worry, James.  I have been the test guinea pig since 1985.

There's lots more Canadians out there who's footprints you will find on
the pathway to freedom.

I have three rules on dealing with Revenue Canada:
1. VOID all correspondence from them; and, send it back.
      (Nullify tacit concent)
2. If Rev Can phones you, or comes to your door, make some good excuse
why you are to busy to talk to them. Tell them to put their concerns in
writing and send it to you.  If they do that...
3. See rule #1.

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Right on Keith!

And, how about the threat and underhanded tactics of Fred Grosby, who
basically admits to having had HotMail shut down my e-mail account.
Sounds like some of the ADL tactics that has recently been used to shut
down free speech advocates in Canada. Notice the further threat of
getting at my home server, I suppose - if I don't quit telling the
truth about thugs operating in Canada. Throwing a few rocks at my
armoured tank may be annoying - but, not very dangerous...

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Mr. Taxman,
You are quite correct in your statement, Eldon Warman and these others
should be "avoided". BUT, AVOIDED BY WHOM???

It seems that the only one's "concerned" about the "facts" and the
"truths" we speak are the sleize, thugs, mobsters, racketeers,and other
assorted deceivers posing as "ELITISTS" and "owners" of Canada.

I strongly suspect there are many more people who believe me than
people who believe you, Mr. Taxman.

Am I a racist? Am I, and the white European people, especially those of
northern German ancestory supposed to renounce our birthright and our
heritage; while the People orignating in ALL other parts of the World
strongly support their birthright and heritage - not least among which
is the Cossar people of southern Russia (who make up some 95% of the
people who call themselves Jews)??   And, we have a Multicultural
agency and hate crime legislation in place in Canada to insure that all
other races living in Canada can have and can maintain their racial and
cultural identity - except this agency and so-called laws are
inapplicable and unavailable to Canadian People of Northern European
extraction.  Why is that?

Eldon Warman
Detax Author and Consultant

I know of no Christian doctrine which allows one to renounce pledges
and oaths. Oaths are not supposed to be taken by Christians; however,
if one does, it must be upheld - under penalty of perjury.
The prayer of KOL NIDRE certainly says it is Ok for one of the Jewish
faith to ignore oaths. I didn't originate the idea or information about
this. Check out: http://ptrc.net/oath.html

Quote from the above webpage:
According to the American Heritage Dictionary of the American Language,
"the Kol Nidre, is the opening prayer recited on the eve of Yom Kippur,
containing a declaration of the annulment of all personal vows and
oaths." It is based on the following declaration from the Talmud;

"He who wishes that his vows and oaths shall no value shall stand up at
the beginning of the year and say: 'all vows which I shall make during
the year shall be of no value. "'

The prayer of "KOL NIDRE" is found in Vol. 8, page 539 of the Jewish
Encyclopedia. It states:

"All vows, obligations, oaths, anthems, whether called Konan, konas, or
by any other name, by which we may be bound, from this day of atonement
unto the next... we do repent. May they be deemed absolved, forgiven,
annulled and void, and made of no effect. They shall not bind us nor
have any power over us. The vows shall not be reckoned vows; the
obligations shall not be obligatory, nor the oaths be oaths."




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Fred,
If you are referring to the USA 'Articles of Confederation' and the
period between 1777 to 1789, you haven't got a very good picture or
grasp of American history.

The "Articles" was the "contract" - the treaty, binding the 13 colonies
into a federation. It was not a constitution, nor intended as a
constitution. It defined an initial form of government and an oversight
committee (Committee of the States) to insure compliance within the
specified relinquished sovereignty to a federal government by the
sovereign States.

The Constitution (never ratified, and deficient in key areas)
SEE: http://www.fourmilab.com/etexts/www/NoTreason/NoTreason.html
supposedly refined the form and role of the Federal Government.

One of the deficient key areas was the same deficiency as was not
included in the Magna Carta - the prohibition of not allowing Roman
incorporation of bodies politic. Edward 1st of England squeezed through
this loopholw around 1300AD. The US federal government started this
usurpation of powers they were never supposed to have, and certainly
weren't allowed in the treaty bring it into existence -the Articles of
Confederation by beginning the incorporation process in the early
1800's.

The only "success story" I see in the United States is the grand
usurpation of power by the Federal Government, a government which has
placed ALL Americans into the position of being chattel property
pledged in bankruptcy to the Rochchild banks.

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In article , "Peter Lawford"
 wrote:
> When have you been discriminated against, except on the obvious
> ground that you are an idiot?

Comment:  HEY MAN!  WE IDIOTS GOT RIGHTS TOO....

Sorry, I cannot be considered the Village Idiot - the position has
obviously been filled by Peter in this discussion community!

Sticks and Stones may break my bones; but, names can never hurt me...
Neah,Na, Neah Nya Nan Yeah!!!!!!!!  Labels with evil intentions have no
effect on me, and my worldly position.  I don't have to brown-nose
anyone.

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Fred Grosby said:
 >I think it is quite clear the Eldon Warman is a racist !
> I think so, too, but it is unfair to lump him with Lavigne and
> Medcalf in that regard.  Whatever else they might have said, neither
> Medcalf nor Lavigne has ever to my knowledge evidenced the slightest
>hint of bigotry.  Warman, on the other hand, is rapidly showing us
>that he is a member of the David Duke school of human relations.

Comment: I wouldn't think that thinking one's race is, and has equal
rights to all other races is "racist". You have never heard me say that
I think the white race is superior. However, the Talmud certainly
teaches that Jews are superior ; and, that Jews don't have to honour
any committments to "goyim".

I would suggest - that if I'm from the David Duke school, you are
obviously from the "Mao tse Tung" school.

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Fred,
You seem to have picked up on the HotMail account shutdown in a way
that indicated to me that you had a hand in the process.  Also, you
have dwelt on exposing my home server. You are the only one doing this.
I certainly haven't attempted to snoop into your methods or lines of
communicartion.

> If I wanted to try to get anything shut down, I would attempt to
> get your CyberSurf account terminated.  Since that's your entry point
to the Internet, and since it's the account you actually pay for with
your own money, that would be much more effective.
Comment: It seems that is what you obviously had in mind by giving out
the name of my home server. Pretty sleazy tactic, I  would say.... Not
that it would make any difference - there are lots of home servers in
Calgary.

> Just the sort of sleazy slander tactic that y'all like to use.

Comment:  I would suggest that the statement describes yourself very
well.

Comment:  Relative to American history, I can prove my statements with
documented facts.  Can you? Your glib brush off statements are about as
intelligently sourced as is David Sherman's "hogwash".  Elitist drivel
doesn't substitute for provable facts.

Eldon G. Warman
Detax Author and Consultant

> >Sounds like some of the ADL tactics that has recently been used
> to shut
> >down free speech advocates in Canada.
> More hate speech.  David Duke would be proud of you.
> ---
> Fred Grosby
> fredg@his.com  www.his.com/~fandl/fred.html
> --------------------------------------------
> If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean,
> there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.



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fredg@his.com (Fred Grosby) wrote:
> When challenged, they acknowledge that the goal of this
> position is anarchy.  Therefore, I take it that at the core, you
> are advocating anarchy.

Comment: Anarchy has two meanings. You obviously take the Aristotelian
approach that human beings are animals in need of strict controls and
subjugation; and, must be stripped of any concept of rights so as to
implement those controls. Without these controls, you envision masses
of people running wildly through the streets pillaging, raping and
plundering all in their path. This is the view of the monotheist and
elitist with a "chosen people" doctrine. Oppression and deprivation
leads mankind into such acts of "anarchy as you envision; however,

The "anarchy" of the libertarian (I haven't taken such a label) is one
of freedom and rights, with only God's Golden Rule to live by. It is
also called the neo-Platonic philosophy. The faith-belief, as taught by
Jesus, is that human beings have a spark of divinity within each mind;
and, left in peace and freedom, that spark will cause that mind to seek
the higher values of life, as happened during the Renaissance period of
Europe. Government is there only as a servant to do that which
individuals cannot do themselves. Justice is in the hands of a high
sheriff and sheriff with strict constitutional controls.

This is much the way things were when I grew up in New Brunswick in the
1940's and 50's. There wasn't all this oppressive and enforcement
bullshit we are now subjected to even as late as the end of the 1950's.

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fredg@his.com (Fred Grosby) wrote:
> Frankly, I had no idea anybody had actually complained to Hotmail
> about you until I read the message to which I am replying.  Now I
> understand the gloating tone used in the previous message.
Comment:  Glad to hear that you are not the guilty party. Someone from
this discussion group did it; however, hotmail will not reveal the
message, to whom, or when it was supposed to have been sent. Pretty sad
when people have to revert to hitting below the belt when they cannot
offer reasonable arguments to support their cause.

> As to "snooping", it's a matter of accessing public information.
> Not much more difficult than looking in the phone book.  Don't make
> more of it than what it is.  This stuff's out there for all to see.
Comment:  I realize that such is readily available; but, I still don't
understand your motivation in posting the info on my homeserver - in
hopes the already unscrupulous person who had my hotmail account shut
down would continue his back-stabbing ways to shut me up.

> On the other hand, your use of the word "expose" suggests that, as
> I have suspected, you were indeed trying to hide the true source of
> your postings.  Why so?
Comment: I don't recall hiding anything. What are you expecting of me?
Should I be posting the measurements of my penis before and after as
well when I enter a posting on this discussion group?

> Come to think of it, why is your web site hosted by a service in
> Alabama?  Something about hate speech, maybe?
Comment: Starhosting is cheap and very efficient. Those are two very
good reasons; however, it is also a bit out of the influence of Revenue
Canada; whom, I'm sure would love to figure our a way to shut down my
detax program. If they ever get to that site, there are plenty of other
sites around the world to host my program; and, these are countries
where Canada's Revenoo Cannibals haven't got much influence.

And, "hate speech"? I'm sure SOME Alabamians are familiar as to what
the Talmud teaches - I suspect there isnt a greater "hate literature"
book in the world than that book.

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From egwarmanNOegSPAM@hotmail.com.invalid Fri Oct 22 16:44:04 EDT 1999
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Subject: Re: Eldon Warman's A Racist
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I find it interesting that so many of you people (or is it one person
going by several assumed names?) have all the buzz words of the Fabian
Socialist crowd (read: Liberal). I guess the topic of income tax
attracts you; as, the income tax is the second plank of Karl Marx's (a
Zionist) Communist Manifesto (A heavy progressive or graduated income
tax)- one of the main control mechanism of the "Goy".

I suppose that anyone who doesn't go along with this scheme is "white
trash".  I would think - at least I do - that it is better to be "white
trash" than to be an "elitist" traitor.

And, the coward that hides behind the pseudonym with the name Taxpayer
obviously can't stand to be made to look the ass, by his ignorant and
deceitful statements; so, he now shows that he likes to play dirty. 
Typical example of the cowardice of those of his ilk.

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From egwarmanNOegSPAM@hotmail.com.invalid Fri Oct 22 16:44:04 EDT 1999
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From: Eldon Warman 
Subject: Re: Keith Medcalf's Big Day October 13, 1999
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Fred,
I accept your apology. And, I apologize for my sometimes "sharp
tongue".  I inherited the trait from my grandfather (who lived, purely
on stubbornness, to the ripe old age of 106).

Relative to "Libertarianism", I am a Jeffersonian libertarian.  I
believe in a minimal government bound down by the chains of a true
constitution. As things now are, the USA Constitution was never
ratified; and, is only being used as an admiralty "ship's orders" by
the Federal Government of the USA - since all people (the vast
majority) have pledged themselves into servitude a "ship crewmembers" -
US Citizens, by accepting a SSN#.  That's why things like Waco, etc.
can go on practically unchallenged.  As an American Airlines Captain, I
had the typical waiver in our "part 1" which said: "The captain may
deviate from any rules or regulations contained herein when he deems it
necessary for the safety of the passengers, crew or aircraft."  Such a
"notwithstanding" clause is in ALL ship orders. In countries run by
admiralty law, as is Canada at present, constitutions are synonomous
with "ship orders".

Canada's so-called constitution was not even ratified by all the
Provinces, let alone any such thing as a referendum. The British
government recognized no authority in the Federal level in 1931. They
mention Parliament in Section 7(3); however, the legislative
sovereignty was all recognized as being with the Provinces in Section
7(2). The Federal Government of Canada is totally BOGUS.

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In article <4WGN3.2845$AX.139552@news1.rdc1.ab.home.com>,
jenuths@homacjen.ab.ca wrote:
>> See any conflict of logic here?
> Not any that I can see.  All it says is that it does not change the
> distribution of powers between the federal and provicial
> governments.
> I can't think that something this simply is confusing you.

Comment: The Statute of Westminster transferred sovereignty from the
British Government to the former Dominion Governments. If you read
Section 7 as a distribution of power, why wasn't this applicable to
Australia. There were several colonies there which were amalgamated
into a super colony of Australia, just as Canada had been formed.

No, it seems that you have been blinded by some ideal that doesn't
register with actual historical fact. Canada doesn't have a Federal
Territiory in which to repose a Federal (limited) sovereignty.
Australia, and the other former dominions did.

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In article <2TGN3.2844$AX.139552@news1.rdc1.ab.home.com>,
jenuths@homacjen.ab.ca wrote:
> In can.legal Noah  wrote:
> > Glad you asked!  Section VII covers the supposedly-independent
> > judicature of Canada. My careful reading of sections 95 thru 101
> leads
> > me to the conclusion that:  if judges are supposedly appointed
> by the
> > Governor-General *and* the Governor-General is appointed by the
> Prime
> > Minister, I cannot help but conclude that a government with a
> majority
> > in both houses *can* remove a judge anytime that government
> wishes to.
> But what you miss is that the removal can only be done if the
> judge misbehaves.  Read the section carefully:
> 99(1)  Subject to subsection two of this section [dealing with
> retirement
> age of 75], the Judges of the Superior Courts shall hold office
> during
> good behavior, but shall be removable by the Governor General on
> Address of the Senate and House of Commons.
> This has been interpreted to mean that a judge can only be removed
> for bad behavior.

Exactly. Remember what happened to that fellow over in Australia not so
awful long ago, when he dared defy the queen?  Hell, he wasn't a judge,
sir, he was the Prime Minister. So, under her royal prerogatives, she
ousted him. Are you trying to say that Canadians should have no fear of
such a thing happening to a lesser government servant; such as a judge?

> And as you know, judges rule against the government constantly on
> matters which are very important to them.  Certainly there is no
> sign of any timid judges in this country, afraid of a government
> which might remove them.

Of course not, counsellor, the judges are always in good taste. Are you
speaking of the majority of judges, in this category, being Federal or
Provincial, BTW?

> In fact, there has never been such an "Address" from the House of
> Commons.
> And if there was, can you think of the political shitstorm if it
> was
> not for the very best of completely non-partisan reasons.  Not even
> a majority government would survive this.
> > On your comment of the Royal Commisssions:  I find it hard to
> swallow,
> > that the per diem fees enjoyed by those that head-up the
> commissions is
> > taxing on them.
> You mean the food allowance paid while out of town.  Judges get
> paid
> this anyway when they are out of town.
> I sort of doubt that the off chance that they may be asked to head
> up
> a rather draining Royal Commission (and receive an allowance for
> food
> and incidentals) is likely to make a judge change decisions.

> > Therefore, IMHO, were a judge to rule *against* the
> > government on an important issue - and without a doubt the GST
> was such
> > an issue - his or her chances of being appointed by the *same*
> > executive that appoints the Governor-General to head-up a
> *commission*,
> > s/he is not likely to be given the "plum". This is why, I feel
> strongly
> > that Canadians will only have a "fair and impartial" hearing,
> when this
> > type of *impartiality* is decapitated. Only then, will a
> Canadian man
> > or woman, walking into a Canadian courtroom, be even a bit
> hopeful that
> > his/her case will *not* be ruled on a political basis; such as I
> feel
> > is exactly what happened, yesterday, with the Keith Medcalf
> motion. It
> > is no excuse for the judiciary to dismiss a case on the support
> that
> > there is an abundance of legal authority.  Legal yes?  Lawful?  I
> > highly doubt it.

> Are you seriously suggesting that the Judicial Committee of the
> Privy
> Council (which decided the Caron case) was somehow beholden to the
> Canadian government.  Most of them likely only had the vagest idea
> where Canada was.

Not in the least, counsellor. I'm suggesting that the Privy Council
ruling, in Caron, because it is the only weapon that the Federal
Government has (regarding the alleged legitimacy of its illegitimate
operation) SHOULD NOT BE RECOGNIZED by a *competent* court of
constitutional affairs; such as a provincial court. That is what I am
saying. Caron was *not* your typical employee, now was he?  In fact,
Caron was a *government* employee. Just between you and me, there is a
big *big* difference between a person  - and state-created at that -
employed by the government, and the ordinary Man or Woman on the
street, who is not state-created. Being not state-created, then the Man
or Woman must be of common law status, no?  As such, under what colour
of law does a judge, in a provincial court, recognize such a
relationship between the non-state created flesh 'n' blood Man or
Woman, and the state-created person?  You say that the Caron case is a
simple one to comprehend, right?  Not in my books, it isn't. Here is
the most-classic example of abuse of judiciary:  a court of Admiralty
ruling which effects non-admiralty aspects of the Canadian way of life.
My stance must be correct; otherwise, we might as well say that all
Canadians are under the auspices and confines of admiralty rule and
law. You have already stated that is not the case.

Your volley, sir :)

> > A *completely* independent judicature is what
> > Canadians need; a judicature that features not *one* Canadian
> > lawyer-turned-judge sitting. This is what our mother country
> citizens
> > are entitled to, since the United Kingdom is a member of the
> European
> > Court.
> I'm not sure what you mean.  The highest court of appeal in the UK
> is the House of Lords.
> People can bring applications under the European version of the
> Charter
> of Rights to a European human rights court, but that's just about
> it.

And, above that is the Human Rights Court of the United Nations, no?

> > Canada, on the otherhand, has apparently no responsiblity to
> > anyone *higher authority*.
> That's what soveriegnty is about.  I'm glad we are over this old
> debate where you suggested Canada was not soveriegn.

I still content that Canada is *not* sovereign. She would have no
provision for pledging allegiance to any other fiction or entity, were
she truly sovereingn. And, as you and I both know, she does have
allegiance pledged, now doesn't she. :)

> > It is a highly-suspicious judicature that
> > only allows appeals to the highest court in the land; especially
> when
> > that higher court has no *higher* court to be responsible to.
> That's what being the highest court is all about.
> > Such a
> > judicial structure has no business even classifying itself as a
> > *court*, IMHO, it is best called a Admiralty forum.

> You can call it what you like.  And then go on to say that the
> courts of every country are, but their very nature, admiralty
> forums -- On the basis that the highest court has no higher courts.
> > Remember the
> > commercial about the chocolate bar; the one where one actor
> says, "It's
> > my boat!".  Remember?  Well, that's about where the Canadian
> judicial
> > system is at. If you don't like it, then you can just get out
> and swim.
> > If you drown, too bad. You should have not pissed off the
> Captain of
> > the ship! Courts of political pleasure were supposedly done away
> with,
> > with the Star Chamber, centuries ago, were they not?  My
> question is,
> > when did the Star Chamber get revived?

> It didn't.  It was abolished many, many years ago.  A couple of
> centuries
> I think.

You are rightfully entitled to your own opinion on the matter; however,
I believe that the essence of the Star Chamber is alive and well and
living in Canada in 1999. :-/

> > But, even of more interest to
> > me, is *how* the Star Chamber came back to life, with very few
> > Canadians realizing it happened? Just out of curiosity, how the
> hell
> > are Canadians suppose to be able to *believe* that our judicial
> system
> > is unreproachable, hmmm?  Especially, when the case is indexed as
> > PUBLIC, JOHN Q vs The Queen.
> Other than putting the names of the Parties on the case, how do you
> think they should be indexed.

Nothing to do with the *indexing* counsellor, it is *who* PUBLIC, JOHN
Q is being attacked by. That is the essence of my argument.

> > I tell you, sir, it is an insult of the
> > highest proportion to try a Canadian before a judge that gets
> his/her
> > paycheck signed by the very fiction that PUBLIC, JOHN Q is up
> against.
> > Balderdash, sir, to your promulgation that the judges are
> > *independent*... balderdash.
> Huh?

Would you rather I said bulshit :)

> --
> Best regards,
> Stephen Jenuth
> (jenuths@homacjen.ab.ca)
> Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.



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In article <3807a2ff.253795218@news1.on.sympatico.ca>,
kmedcalf@des_sus.nospam.com (Keith Medcalf) wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Oct 1999 17:37:22 -0400, "David Smith"
> 
> wrote:
> >Taxman, when were you appointed saviour? Eldon's detax program
> has not been
> >tested by the courts. Medcalf's constitutional defence has, and
> lost.
> It did not lose.
> It was dismissed as contravening "overwhelming authority".
> "Overwhelming authority" according to my Judgespeak manual, means
> that the
> judge is required by stare decisis to pay homage to the binding
> decision of
> a superior court which he has not present jurisdiction to
> overturn.  This
> "overwhelming authority" does not apply in Criminal Matters where
> the
> liberty of the accused is at stake.

Huh!! Are you saying that if you had been up on Criminal Matters, that
the judge would have had to take a more serious and much deeper look
*inside* your promulgations and supporting arguments, etc?  Sorry, 'ol
chap; please forgive me, but this is one time that I really wished you
had been *deemed* a criminal. Why?  Mr. Taxman may have been singing an
entirely different tune, I fear! ;-))

Keep up the fight and let's talk more of this *overwhelming authority*
issue. I'm curious to understand what would have happened, if you had
been charged with a criminal offence. There's a guy I know, in
Winnipeg, that knows a guy there who *is* charged under section 239 of
the Income Tax Act. If memory serves me, that section is the one that
is *definitely* criminal. Perhaps, *he* can overturn the applecart.  If
so, then it would be good for all of us, now wouldn't it; that is,
Keith, if you are truly correct in the essence of the defence you put
forward to the court. From what I understand, the Winnipeg man is going
for trial by jury. It promises to be an interesting case; for he has
been charged with tax evasion, notwithstanding that any of the years
alleged by the Crown that he evaded taxes, he filed no information
return. According to the documents in the docket, he hasn't filed since
1977. He claims the Federal Government has no jurisdiction over him, or
any other flesh 'n' blood Man or Woman living in any of the provinces,
here in Canada. And, if he goes to jail, it will be because he is a
political prisoner, not because he evaded taxes. Sort of reminds me of
the latest Will Smith movie, "Enemy of the State". Which reminds me,
how can one evade taxes that are not lawfully collected anyway?  Didn't
the court rule in Paveley (1988) that "...failure to file is, of
itself, not grounds for tax evasion..."? By George, methinks the feds
may have a real fight on their hands with the fellow Lear, from
Winnipeg. Gawd, I hope so! And, if this "overwhelming authority" issue
cannot be addressed, except where the liberty of the accused is at
risk, then perhaps Lear can add that to his arsenal.

But, I must confess, I'm a bit confused over this "except where the
liberty of the accused is at risk" thing. Didn't your website intimate
that the Crown was seeking incarceration for *you*?  Geeezus, man, if
*that* doesn't qualify for "except where the liberty of the accused is
at risk", then what the hell is? :-/


> According to my research, only the Court of Appeal of the Province
> is
> permitted to "disregard" "overwhelming authority" and issue
> judgements on
> the merits.
> In fact, where such "overwhelming authority" can be demonstrated
> to have
> failed to consider "facts" and "law" introduced on the case at
> hand, then
> the Final Court of Appellate jurisdiction in the Province is
> required to
> determine the matters before it strictly on the merits.  Where such
> determination on the merits before it result in a conclusion which
> is
> contrary to the "overwhelming authority", the court is duty-bound
> to rule on
> the merits and note its respectful disagreement with the
> "overwhelming
> authority" of the superior court.

> Want references?

Yeah, bring 'em on.

> By the way, Notice of Appeal as of Right to the Court of Appeal
> for Ontario
> was served and filed today.

Keep us little guys informed. Most of us don't have the balls to stand
up for what we believe in, but there will be a day of reckoning, I'm
sure; there will come a day, not so far in the distance, when those
Canadians who believe that "enough is enough" will decide that the
Keith Medcalfs, the Sir Daniel Kingsley Lears, the Eldon Warmans, and
even the Daniel Lavignes of this great country of ours, have been right
all along  - none of us should view the payment of taxes as a means to
satisfy the insatiable appetite of a government gone bad. In the old
days, a Man knew that he could control his government by one of two (2)
doors:  Door #1 - the ballot or Door #2 through his pocket. It would
appear that Door #1 is no longer a swinging door; for, once they're in,
they seem to forget *who* put them there. And, without the means of
recall, as has been proven in the courts as well, the only choice is
Door #2, IMHO, regardless of what the federal "spin doctors" say. That
day, I am hoping, will be the day that the courts are forced to take
the view, "Ladies and Gentlemen of the Bench, it behooves us to take
this issue more serious, for it would appear that the people have
finally spoken."

Noah


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Here's an interesting tidBit of Common Law for you

folks who would like to see we DeTaxers all put in jail:

"Actus legis nemini facit injuriam"

Translation: An act of the law wrongs no man.


Note: An act of the law is to be so limited in its

operation that no right shall be prejudiced.

Precedent: 2 Bl. Com.123; 69 Ga. 400: Broom, Max. 127, 409.

"Actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea"

Translation: An act does not make a man a criminal,

unless his intentions be criminal.

Note: To constitute a crime, the intent and the act must concur;

a mere over act, without wrongful intention, does not make guilt.

Precedent: 4 Bl. Com. 2, 21; 4, N. Y. 159, 163, 193,;

Broom, Max. 307.

Source :

(A Dictionary of Law by William C. Anderson, of the Pittsburg Bar

(Dictionary and Compendium of American and English Jurisprudence.)

Publisher :  T. H. Flood and Company (Law Publishers), Chicago 1893

Eldon Warman
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The Income Tax Act should be printed on a good quality of toilet paper.
That way, it may serve some useful purpose - other than as a means of
lining the pockets of unscrupulous lawyers  (are there any other kind?).

You can get a download of my complete detax program by going to my
webpage at" http://www.detaxcanada.org  and requesting it.

That way, you can get much less expensive toilet paper at Safeway.

Eldon Warman
Detax Author and Consultant


> Question to David Sherman from inquirer:
> Any word on when the next edition (1999) of the "Income
> Tax Act: Dept of Finance TN" will be out ??

David Sherman's answer:
> It went to the printer a few weeks ago, I think (I finished my
> review quite a while back). It should be in stock within a few days.
> I'm told that it's due in stock October 22.
> David M. Sherman, LLB, LLM
> Tax Author & Consultant
> ds@davidsherman.ca
> http://www.davidsherman.ca



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Subject: Re: Republic of Canada
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I think that if you check your history book, the Queen (British
Monarch) was dumped in 1931. NO sovereignty for the British Crown was
reserved in the Statute of Westminster over any foreign Dominion.
There's a sick joke about a fellow in a sword dual. The opponent took a
quick swing, and the other said: Ha! You missed. The opponent says:
"Shake your head!.  Canadians haven't got around to shaking their heads
yet - to discover that their Crowned head has been cleanly severed.

When the Fijians shook their head a few years ago, the Queen expressed
her sadness 'that the end of the Fijian allegiance to the Crown should
have been brought about without the people of Fiji being given the
opportunity to express their opinion on the proposal'.

I don't recall hearing my Grandfathers or Father ever mention that they
were given the opportunity to express their opinion as to whether the
Crown of England should be the Crown of Canada.

If you are thinking Republic for Canada, may I suggest you view my 2
part webpage: http://www.detaxcanada.org/repub1.htm

Also, to see the mistakes that have been made in the USA, and the
present sorry state of that country, you should check out my 13 part
webpage at:  http://www.detaxcanada.org/cmlaw1.htm

p.s./ Fred, Why is it so important to you to expose people's IP
addresses? You seem to delight in attacking persons, rather than
addressing or fairly debating their ideas and sentiments. Unless you
are deviously using this tactic as a diversion, you should check out
Aristotle's Fallacies of Philosophy (The Marquis of Queensbury rules of
debate.)  It certainly isn't much fun, and certainly not very
enlightening to other readers, for participants in this debating group
to try to carry on an intellectual debate with a dirty street fighter.

Eldon Warman


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Noah wrote:
> The *one* I'm referring to, Eldon, is the *one* who refuses to pay
> taxes and then gets thrown in jail for not paying. I am curious to
> know how your program will work for somebody that RevCan has already
> arrested, etc. :-)
> Noah

COMMENT: No reason why it should not work. The person was punished as a
disobedient legal entity. However, he got to be a legal entity by way
of a fraudulent contract. A fraudulent contract can be "voided" by the
injured party. A voided fraudulent contract is from the beginning of
the fraudulent contract - beginning when that person filed his first
"return of income". Haebas Corpus should work.

The Common Law Axioms that refutes that Government can make laws that
affect people and remove their rights are:

"Actus legis nemini facit injuriam"
Translation:  An act of the law wrongs no man.
Note: An act of the law is to be so limited in its operation that no
right shall be prejudiced.
Precedent: 2 Bl. Com.123; 69 Ga. 400: Broom, Max. 127, 409.

"Actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea"
Translation: An act does not make a man a criminal, unless his
intentions be criminal.
Note: To constitute a crime, the intent and the act must concur; a mere
over act, without wrongful intention, does not make guilt.
Precedent: 4 Bl. Com. 2, 21; 4, N. Y. 159, 163, 193,; Broom, Max. 307.
Source :
 A Dictionary of Law by William C. Anderson, of the Pittsburg Bar 
(Dictionary and Compendium of American and English Jurisprudence.)
 Publisher :  T. H. Flood and Company (Law Publishers), Chicago 1893

Relative to TAXMAN's statement that Eldon Warman has spent time in jail
for income tax refusal - He certainly must know something I am not
aware of. Since I don't drink, I must have just slept through the whole
episode.  WHAT A JERK! OR WORSE!

Eldon Warman
Detax Author and Consultant





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"JSBS" wrote:
> Better yet:
> How about the 51st State in the United States of North America?
> Works for me, and it  solves the Quebec problem for me too.

Comment:  I would suggest you check out a few websites in the USA to
see how deeply the USA has sunk into being a Despotic dictatorship
since the actions of FDR back in 1933 put that country under the
Emergency Powers Act. You can find some (actually, much) reading
material at: http://www.informamerica.com/

I think you will find in Glen Kealey's researched material that the
NAFTA treaty (the real one archived for 30 years from public view) has
Quebec split off as a Puerto Rican territory by 2025; and, the
remainder of Canada split up into several new states. Of course, all
will be under the UNO world Government. The USA NOW owns all water in
Candada (including snow and ice - second thought: they can have that,
free).

Eldon Warman
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I believe it was 1907. But, Eldon still may have a point:  during WWII,
Australia created an Act, called "An Act to Enact the Statute of
Westminster, 1931", yet, try as I might, I have been unable to find
such an Act of Parliament of Canada. It is curious thing why the
"dominion" of Australia found it important to enact such a Act, when
Canada - being her sister dominion - did not. This is why I say that
Eldon may be onto something with his statement, so I wouldn't be
discounting him yet.

Noah


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In article ,
jenuths@homacjen.ab.ca wrote:
> In can.legal Noah  wrote:
> > In article <2TGN3.2844$AX.139552@news1.rdc1.ab.home.com>,
> > jenuths@homacjen.ab.ca wrote:
> > Exactly. Remember what happened to that fellow over in Australia
> not so
> > awful long ago, when he dared defy the queen?  Hell, he wasn't a
> judge,
> > sir, he was the Prime Minister. So, under her royal
> prerogatives, she
> > ousted him. Are you trying to say that Canadians should have no
> fear of
> > such a thing happening to a lesser government servant; such as a
> judge?
> You seem to be confusing the Austrialian situation where the
> governmnet was defeated in Parliament (by the elected Senate as I
> recall) and where the Governor General called an election.

Huh?  From what my Ozzie friends have told me, that is simply not true.
Whitlund (I think that is his name) was *fired* because he dared to
stand up to the Governor-General, over some land belonging to the
sovereingn near Qweensland, if memory serves me. That firing has
culminated into the current frenzied state-of-affairs over there,
including the bringing of the Chief Magistrate before the War Crimes
Tribunal. Where the case is, at this point,I do not know, for one of
the main thorns in the goverment's side, had to flee the country to
avoid political arrest (dissident thing, ya know).

> In Canada we had something similar in the 1920s.  It is referred
> occasionally as the "King-Byng thing", and involved the governor
> general refusing to call an election after the government was
> defeated
> in Parliament.
> >> And as you know, judges rule against the government constantly
> on
> >> matters which are very important to them.  Certainly there is no
> >> sign of any timid judges in this country, afraid of a government
> >> which might remove them.
> > Of course not, counsellor, the judges are always in good taste.
> Are you
> > speaking of the majority of judges, in this category, being
> Federal or
> > Provincial, BTW?
> I would think so.  At least the federally appointed judges in
> Alberta
> together with their provincial colleagues.
> ....
> >> Are you seriously suggesting that the Judicial Committee of the
> >> Privy
> >> Council (which decided the Caron case) was somehow beholden to
> the
> >> Canadian government.  Most of them likely only had the vagest
> idea
> >> where Canada was.

> > Not in the least, counsellor. I'm suggesting that the Privy
> Council
> > ruling, in Caron, because it is the only weapon that the Federal
> > Government has (regarding the alleged legitimacy of its
> illegitimate
> > operation) SHOULD NOT BE RECOGNIZED by a *competent* court of
> > constitutional affairs; such as a provincial court. That is what
> I am
> > saying. Caron was *not* your typical employee, now was he?  In
> fact,
> > Caron was a *government* employee.

> I think that MLAs would not suggest that they are government
> employees.

Oh really?  Surely you are aware of the "Roman Corporation" case or the
Littlechild case, no?  The latter, especially, shows the utter contempt
for Canadians regarding Parliament *members*. I, for one, find it
absolute unacceptable that when a politician is sworn to his portfolio
(or tasks) that s/he no longer is accountable to the very people that
put him/her in that place of prestige and importance. The court, your
*honourable* court, made it quite clear that the people had virtually
no say over the person sent to represent them to Parliament Hill. And,
you try to tell us all, here, that the judges are installed to protect
the interests of the people? Not bloody likely!

Caron was a Member of Quebec's National Assembly
> and a provincial cabinet minister.

Yup, that he was.

> > Just between you and me, there is a
> > big *big* difference between a person  - and state-created at
> that -
> > employed by the government, and the ordinary Man or Woman on the
> > street, who is not state-created. Being not state-created, then
> the Man
> > or Woman must be of common law status, no?

> I don't understand what you are talking about.  Even government
> employees are not state created.

Aw, c'mon counsellor, were you not aware that the word "person" is
created by the state?  Apt, mind you, for the word is derived from the
Latin word "persona". Consider this:  if the meaning, in law, of person
is one which is either a corporation or a natural person, than what
describes the Man or Woman of flesh 'n' blood?  Nothing in statute law,
I'm pretty sure of that. Why?  Because statute law is created by the
state for state-created entities. Some time ago, I posted here about
the fact that my name was all in upper case on virtually any
state-created identity card in my pocket.  Back then, you said it
wasn't any big deal, but now I am not so sure.  The state created my
name, the moment I was born by giving my mother my birth certificate.
Yet, in law, the highest form of identification is a witnessed
signature to a birth announcement made in a family Bible. Why is that? 
Not all children are born in hospitals, now are they.  Does this mean,
then, that if you do not have a state-created birth certificate that
you actually were not born?  I don't think so, IMHO.

> In the second part of his appeal, Caron suggested that he was
> special
> and should not be taxed on his sessional indemnity, etc.  That also
> failed.
> He was treated just like an ordinary person.

Correct, as a person liable to pay, for he had made his bed with the
state of his own free will.

> > As such, under what colour
> > of law does a judge, in a provincial court, recognize such a
> > relationship between the non-state created flesh 'n' blood Man or
> > Woman, and the state-created person?

Hey, you forget to answer this question. :)

You say that the Caron
> case is a
> > simple one to comprehend, right?
> Its pretty simple, yes.  Short too!
> > Not in my books, it isn't. Here is
> > the most-classic example of abuse of judiciary:  a court of
> Admiralty
> > ruling which effects non-admiralty aspects of the Canadian way
> of life.
> > My stance must be correct; otherwise, we might as well say that
> all
> > Canadians are under the auspices and confines of admiralty rule
> and
> > law. You have already stated that is not the case.
> > Your volley, sir :)

> The Privy Council was not exercising any admiralty jurisdiction at
> the
> time.
> It was exercising its jurisdiction on behalf of the soveriegn to
> hear
> appeals from decisions of the Courts.  It was a jurisdiction which
> existed since the Norman conquest.  From the 1800s onwards, the
> jurisdiction
> was exercised only after hearing the recommendation of a number of
> judges who sat in a committee known as the Judicial Committee of
> the Privy Council.

Fine, so where does it say that citizens of a country *which are not*
subjects of the Crown, are required to abide by the rules of HMQ and
HMG? And, another thing, how was it possible for the Privy Council to
rule on a money matter anyway?  I thought they were forbidden from that
field.

> >> > A *completely* independent judicature is what
> >> > Canadians need; a judicature that features not *one* Canadian
> >> > lawyer-turned-judge sitting. This is what our mother country
> >> citizens
> >> > are entitled to, since the United Kingdom is a member of the
> >> European
> >> > Court.
> >> I'm not sure what you mean.  The highest court of appeal in the
> UK
> >> is the House of Lords.
> >> People can bring applications under the European version of the
> >> Charter
> >> of Rights to a European human rights court, but that's just
> about
> >> it.
> > And, above that is the Human Rights Court of the United Nations,
> no?
> No.

So are you saying that a Brit, for example, having taken a case to the
House of Lords and not being satisfied with the results could not take
his case to the UN HRC?

> >> > Canada, on the otherhand, has apparently no responsiblity to
> >> > anyone *higher authority*.
> >> That's what soveriegnty is about.  I'm glad we are over this old
> >> debate where you suggested Canada was not soveriegn.
> > I still content that Canada is *not* sovereign. She would have no
> > provision for pledging allegiance to any other fiction or
> entity, were
> > she truly sovereingn. And, as you and I both know, she does have
> > allegiance pledged, now doesn't she. :)

> Canada doesn't.  But new citizens and people who take office do
> pledge their allegiance to our head of state.

So, if it the duty of new citizens to pledge their allegiance to HMQ,
then how can you say that Canada is sovereign?  With all due respect,
counsellor, it doesn't add up:  new citizens are pledging their
allegiance to a fiction, not a Royal Woman. Therefore, when the pledge
is completed, they have essentially pledged themselves to nothing. For
example, what would happen to the *new* citizens were the queen to die?
Nothing, for they are, I would assume, pledged to Her Majesty, in right
of Canada. HMQ has no *right* of Canada. She has her Head of State
appointment by consent of the Government of Canada, from way back when.
If Canada was to go to war and lose, then the conqueror would have the
right of salvage law. For a right can be merely assumed, it either was
>from the beginning, or it is not a right, but merely a state-created
privilege. Such is the state of Her Majesty, in right of Canada, IMHO.
Rights are inalienable. What does that word mean, consellor?  If rights
are inalienable, then no matter what the state may do to invade or
encroach upon those rights will meet with defeat in the end. Why? 
Because the state is not infallible. IMHO, rights of the Natural Man
and Natural Woman go beyond the lowly level of infallibility; rights
are inpregnable. However, just like the common-looking girl that is
aching for a particular boy to be her lover, the issue of virginity and
that inpregnability becomes lost in the shuffle of passion and fervent
hope for the future. I fear that the good people of Canada have been
asked to take it lying down, by this time, that the idea of wearing
white for the wedding is more of a shame than a fear of ridicule.

> >> > It is a highly-suspicious judicature that
> >> > only allows appeals to the highest court in the land;
> especially
> >> when
> >> > that higher court has no *higher* court to be responsible to.
> >> That's what being the highest court is all about.
> >> > Such a
> >> > judicial structure has no business even classifying itself as
> a
> >> > *court*, IMHO, it is best called a Admiralty forum.
> >> You can call it what you like.  And then go on to say that the
> >> courts of every country are, but their very nature, admiralty
> >> forums -- On the basis that the highest court has no higher
> courts.
> >> > Remember the
> >> > commercial about the chocolate bar; the one where one actor
> >> says, "It's
> >> > my boat!".  Remember?  Well, that's about where the Canadian
> >> judicial
> >> > system is at. If you don't like it, then you can just get out
> >> and swim.
> >> > If you drown, too bad. You should have not pissed off the
> >> Captain of
> >> > the ship! Courts of political pleasure were supposedly done
> away
> >> with,
> >> > with the Star Chamber, centuries ago, were they not?  My
> >> question is,
> >> > when did the Star Chamber get revived?
> >> It didn't.  It was abolished many, many years ago.  A couple of
> >> centuries
> >> I think.
> > You are rightfully entitled to your own opinion on the matter;
> however,
> > I believe that the essence of the Star Chamber is alive and well
> and
> > living in Canada in 1999. :-/
> I suppose.  But where does this secret court sit?  I have not heard
> about it.

It is cleverly disguised in the egotistical minds of the
lawyers-come-judges that would have us good and lawful Canadians
believe that the system is okay the way it is. In other words, it is
okay to convict people like fine just the way it is. I wonder how many
of these judges would last through a Justice Society, eh?  You know, a
society similar in concept to what your own Law Society of Alberta is. 
I know of a complaint filed against one of your fellow members of the
society. I am waiting to see what kind of *slap on the wrist* he gets,
for misappropriating trust funds.  But, just imagine, a court made up
of ordinary lawful citizens ruling on whether or not the judge standing
before them is worthy to stand trial for judicial misconduct against
the people coming before them in the judicial process. I know of a
group about to lobby for legislation for just such a *society*.  I say
its bloody well time that judges had someone to account to; especially
those that are so easily led by the Crown's interests, or the interests
of the bankers. :)

> >> > But, even of more interest to
> >> > me, is *how* the Star Chamber came back to life, with very few
> >> > Canadians realizing it happened? Just out of curiosity, how
> the
> >> hell
> >> > are Canadians suppose to be able to *believe* that our
> judicial
> >> system
> >> > is unreproachable, hmmm?  Especially, when the case is
> indexed as
> >> > PUBLIC, JOHN Q vs The Queen.
> >> Other than putting the names of the Parties on the case, how do
> you
> >> think they should be indexed.
> > Nothing to do with the *indexing* counsellor, it is *who*
> PUBLIC, JOHN
> > Q is being attacked by. That is the essence of my argument.
> >> > I tell you, sir, it is an insult of the
> >> > highest proportion to try a Canadian before a judge that gets
> >> his/her
> >> > paycheck signed by the very fiction that PUBLIC, JOHN Q is up
> >> against.
> >> > Balderdash, sir, to your promulgation that the judges are
> >> > *independent*... balderdash.
> >> Huh?
> > Would you rather I said bulshit :)
> >> --
> >> Best regards,
> >> Stephen Jenuth
> >> (jenuths@homacjen.ab.ca)
> >> Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
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> Best regards,
> Stephen Jenuth
> (jenuths@homacjen.ab.ca)
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From: Eldon Warman 
Subject: Re: Republic of Canada
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 Eldon Warman wrote:
> >p.s./ Fred, Why is it so important to you to expose people's IP
> >addresses? You seem to delight in attacking persons, rather than
> >addressing or fairly debating their ideas and sentiments.

Fred wrote:
> In my opinion, the ideas/sentiments were not fairly presented, said
> poster claiming to live in Lethbridge Alberta when the post came
> from a server in Israel.  This is relevant as to the credibility of
> the message, and thus is a valid subject for inquiry and challenge.

Comment:  Fred, I run into many people who are very paranoid about the
possibility of near future round-up and extermination of so-called
dissidents - the stories (true or false) of concentration and
extermination camps all over the USA and Canada. The RCMP here are
showing all the signs of getting their attitudes in readiness for
either/or marshall law or dissident roundups. People are having bad
encounters with them all across Canada.  Therefore, I have no trouble
with someone who appears to be on the zealous patriotic (for a free
nation-state) who wishes to use a proxy server in some remote area.
This is not a congress with powers to implement the ideas presented -
it is ONLY a debating group. So, let's stick to discussion and
counter-discussion in an honest manner.

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From: Eldon Warman 
Subject: Re: Eldon Warman's A Racist
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"Peter Lawford" wrote:
> vs. being a Deadbeat who doesn't carry his fair share of society's
> burdens? This isn't about cowardice, this is about responsibility.
>  The people who don't file their federal taxes, typically don't
>  pay their state taxes either, and try to avoid child support,
>  and don't pay off their credit cards, and are generally just bums.
>  Not liking being bumbs, they try to mask their deadbeatedness behind
>  some higher, faux cause.

Comment: Are you shooting from the hip with your gun loaded with
ignorant chatter.  Please get yourself educated to the real world
before you think you're qualified to take part in an intelligent debate!

I would suggest you read:  War Cycles - Peace Cycles by Richard Kelly
Hoskins, The Virginia Publishing Company, Lynchburg, Virginia.

Also: Read N.Y. Federal Reserve Board President Ruml's 1946 speech on
the uses of income tax. If you can't read, may I suggest the "Dick &
Jane Picture Book version. http://www.se1.com/usp/taxgate/docs/ruml.htm

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(Fred Grosby) wrote:
> Just 'cause it's on the Web does not make it so.

Comment:  Another futile attempt at diversion, EH?
Can't seem to come back with an honest counter-argument or or an honest
proof of error; so, back come the "dirty street fighter" tactics.
You should really clean up your act, if you propose to continue to be a
"current system advocate" with so real credibility.

The document on the web about the "KOL NIDRE" is well source documented
for anyone to research.

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"MrTaxman" wrote:
> Rick Jones  wrote in message
> news:3807bbb4.5856042@24.9.0.17...
> > Scratch a bigot and you'll usually find a unemployed goof who
> doesn't
> > get any.  Crude, but true.
> Are you suggesting that Eldon Warman isn't getting "ANY" ??
> And that his "De-Tax" program is a statement of HIS "sexual
> frustration"
> Regards,
> Taxman

COMMENT: EXTRA! EXTRA!
     RICK JONES AN MR TAXMAN INCREASE THEIR CREDABILITY
     AS VALUABLE ASSETS TO THE NEW WORLD ORDER TRAITORS
                       BY AT LEAST 300%

It's interesting that you would bring up "sexual frustration".
It appears that most of the "SMUT SHOPS" and "STRIP JOINTS" in Calgary
have owners with Jewish names. But, then, I'm suppose the Jewish names
are assumed by unscrupulous Christians so as to serve anti-semitic
purposes.

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From: Eldon Warman 
Subject: Re: Republic of Canada (51st State)
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(Rick Jones) wrote:
> The main problem with the information on this website is that,
> almost without exception, it's all false, misrepresented, taken out of
> context, or deliberately omits part of the truth.

COMMENT: Which parts are false? Show some counter-evidence!
By making such idiotic statements, you show your true nature of
deviousness in supporting the "liberal" cause of worlld socialism and
slavery for all. Nice guy! The only one's you'll convince with
statements like that are your fellow "liberals". Sort of "preaching to
the saved".  The "lost" are too wary to be that easily rounded up for
your slaughter.

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Jenuths wrote:
> >> Both provinces and the federal government have the power to levy
> >> an income tax.

My previous statement:
> > COMMENT:  WRONG! Neither does.  Both are "STRAWMEN" and IMPOSTOR
> > hoaxes. Such does not have "rights", especially to confiscate the
> > SOVEREIGN's property - money you gained by exchanging your
> > labour and skills (property).
> Even if you write it in bold flashing red letters, you would still
> be wrong.

Comment: I'm wrong that these pseudo-governments do not have the right
to confiscate Canadians' property?? Read my posting on "Mens Rea".
Sure, they are confiscating Canadians' property; however, they are not
using law; they are using "pirate looting and plundering" with "Might
Makes Right!" as their motto.

Eldon Warman
Detax Author and Consultant


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From egwarmanNOegSPAM@hotmail.com.invalid Fri Oct 22 16:44:11 EDT 1999
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From: Eldon Warman 
Subject: Re: Republic of Canada
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> Just to be perfectly clear, you are referring to Elizabeth II
> here, are you?
> Brian "and not Adrienne Clarkson" Cooke
>    **********************************************
>    |  A. Brian Cooke                            |
>    |  Department of Civil Engineering           |
>    |  University of New Brunswick               |
>    |  http://www.unb.ca/civil/cooke/cooke.html  |
>    **********************************************

Comment: I would suspect he was referring to Queen Lizzie.
Adrienne Cooke is just a plain old "impostor" and "hoax";
not a ROYAL HOAX and IMPOSTOR.

Eldon Warman
Detax Author and Consultant
And, according to Mr. Taxman, a semite who is anti-semitic; and
suffering the old Hawaiian disease, "LakkaNookie".




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From: Eldon Warman 
Subject: Re: Eldon Warman's A Racist
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Sorry! What does all this babel have to do with me?

Seems you people haven't come up with any new or viable
techniques to hide your evil ways and intentions in 2500 years.

Your diversionary tactics are easily seen through by those who
recognize "TRUTH". An attempt at character assination will not stop the
"Rock of TRUTH" I have sent rolling down the mountainside. The People
of Canada only recognize GOD as their sovereign; and, He has entrusted
that Sovereignty to HIS People. Governments controlled by ZIONIST
Bankers have usurped that Sovereignty. My project is to take that
Sovereignty back, ONE PERSON AT A TIME. The "ROCK OF TRUTH" is rolling
folks! I would suggest you get out of the way, QUICKLY!

Since Zionists are not Semitic, if you wish to call me, a Semite,
"anti-semitic, go for it!

Eldon Warman
Detax Author and Consultant





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Good idea counsellor. I'll find the web site and post the entire act
here, so we can make sure we're arguing with all detail.


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Thx for taking the time. What's your read on it, comparative to what we
are discussing here?  I promulgate that this case is a weak one, for
the feds, as it was exercised under Privy Council. Privy Council is
*not* the highest court of the land, so far as Canada is concerned now.
In fact, back then, it should not have been either; for the Privy
Council had no standing, from what I understand, to rule on *money*
matters. Tax, clearly, is a money matter, IMHO. Yet, we see that the
P.C. rule is still enshrined in the judiciary of today.  Another thing
that is not clear, as of yet, is the difference between Civil code law
and common law; for the accused was under Civil code law, and not
common law; unless someone want to challenge that statement.

Noah


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Subject: Re: Re:Nostradamus' "sept mois" is sidereal Libra!(Oct 17 - Nov 16)...
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In article <199910181717.RAA16374@berlin.neuropa.net>, M / n
 wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Oct 1999 08:56:46 -0600, "Tom Vilot" is a sniveler:

[snip]

> This *is* the revised Roman
> year 1999 AD, and this *is* the astrological month
> of 'Libra', therefore there is no possibility that
> Nostradamus' 'X72' quatrain will NOT be fulfilled
> by or before the end of 'Libra' in the year 1999.
> I advise everyone in low-lying or coastal areas
> to get to higher ground A.S.A.P. before impact!

I live in a coastal area. Now, how about putting your money where your
mouth is: how much are you willing to bet on that I'll be forced to
move upwards from here this year? Hell, I'll even give you 200-1. Dare
to bet?

Dragonblaze

- God? I'm no God. God has mercy. -


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Interesting stuff!  But, what does this have to do with Canadian taxes?

I doubt any meteor impact would deter Revenue Canada!

I'm at 1000 Metres elevation in Calgary.  Is that high enough?

Eldon Warman
The Semitic "anti-Semitic" racist
who dares to think that his race is equal to all other races.



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(David Hatunen) wrote:
> You have obviously confused the British crown with the Canadian
> crown. They are not the same thing.
COMMENT: OH? Who invented the Canadian Crown. Do you have a picture of
that Crown? Can you supply any documentation whereby the Canadian
People have voted for, or accepted the Queen of England as the Queen of
Canada? The Monroe doctrine is a declaration by the United States that
will not countenance a monarchy in America. (That's my belief as to
what the Monroe Doctrine was all about.) So, apparently, the Americans
know that the Crown in Canada is a fraud and hoax - otherwise , they
would have used military force to eliminate it.
I quote from Queen Lizzie herself in her speech relating to the
succession of Fiji a few years ago: expressed her sadness "that the
ending of Fijian allegiance to the Crown (British Crown) should have
been brought about without the people of Fiji being given the
opportunity to express their opinion on the proposal."

When have Canadians had the opportunity to express their opinion as to
whether she should be Queen of Canada? NEVER!

> If your grasp of the connection between Elizabeth Widnsor and
> Canada is any indication, it is unlikely to be very, um,
> interesting.
Comment: I certainly wouldn't think it would be very interesting to the
TRAITORS who make themselves heard on this discussion group -
fortunately, there are real Canadians out there who are tuning into
Remarq.com.

> >Also, to see the mistakes that have been made in the USA, and the
> >present sorry state of that country, you should check out my 13
> >part webpage at: http://www.detaxcanada.org/cmlaw1.htm
> Ditto my previous comment.

Comment: And, ditto my previous comment.
I lived in California at Castro Valley, Pleasanton and Benicia for some
17 years. I found that the Federal Government of the United States is
one of the most dispicable and tyranical governments which has ever
existed.  Waco is a grand example!
And, the California government is not far behind. California is more
communistic than Russia ever was.

Eldon Warman
A hater of tyrants! And, of their lackeys!

     ********** DAVE HATUNEN (hatunen@sonic.net) ***********
>     *                Daly City California                 *
>     ******* My typos are intentional copyright traps ******


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fredg@his.com (Fred Grosby) wrote:
> Nope.  A fact.  One for all to consider when reading newsgroup
> messages or web sites.  A suggestion that one judge critically, not
> blindly accept as gospel whatever happens to show up on the
> monitor.
> This seems to upset you.  Why?
> ---
> Fred Grosby

Comment: Fred, you are still using your "street fighter tactics"!
The "web" is a communications vehicle.  It is NOT an OBJECT writing
information.  Real People (obviously many who are too cowardly to use
their own names, ie. Mr. Taxman) write messages. If they write those
messages, and back them up with verifiable proofs, it doesn't make any
difference whether it is on the "web" or in a college textbook.

Eldon Warman
The anti-senitic Semite and racist who believes that
his race is equal to all others


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From egwarmanNOegSPAM@hotmail.com.invalid Fri Oct 22 16:44:14 EDT 1999
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From: Eldon Warman 
Subject: Re: Republic of Canada
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Robin Mitchell wrote:
> [ loon-ravings snipped ]
Comment: The loon is considered an extraordinarily smart bird in Canada.
Which specific comments do you consider loo-ravings? The comments about
the USA? I had my wife of 23 years murdered (hanged by an electrical
extention cord - as were several others in 1884) by their goons from
the IRS.  I had my airline pilot career eliminated by them. I had my
property confiscated by them.  I was unlawfully "outlawed" by them. I
lost close to $10,000,000.00 US by the aunalful actions of the US
Federal Government, and the complicity of the California State
Government. Don't you think I have reason to have a rather strong
opinion of the nature of such a government - and I wasn't protesting
the income tax in the USA.  The IRS schemed (I have proof) to use
airline pilots and doctors as Gestapo examples to enhance "voluntary
compliance".

> >A hater of tyrants! And, of their lackeys!
> And, of proper punctuation!
>    -- Robin, Mitchell
Comment: Your criticism is about punctuation???
You must have learned to write in the public education system of
California.

Eldon Warman



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From egwarmanNOegSPAM@hotmail.com.invalid Fri Oct 22 16:44:14 EDT 1999
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From: Eldon Warman 
Subject: Re: Eldon Warman's A Racist
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If the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion are a fraud, they are
the most convincing fraud that has ever been concocted.

The program, as outlined in the Protocols, is existent, step by step
and word for word in today's western world. It certainly is a
coincidence that a fiction can be so real, and without any group or
organization (as the Zionists would have us believe) being in any way
part or all of the cause.

There is more than ample proof that the Zionist program has been known
and published for several hundred years. Most of these revelations have
been given to the world by Jewish authors. One doesn't have to go any
further than the books of the Babylonian Talmud to get the same program
as is outlined in the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion.

Why would the prayer of KOL NIDRE be existent if it were not for use as
a tool of deception and criminal activity?  That whole concept goes
directly against the Mosaic Hebrew religion which forbids deceit,
lying, theft, defrauding and the like.

Eldon Warman
A Semitic anti-semitic (according to Mr. Taxman)


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Response to Peter Lawford;

The Zionist controlled American and Canadian Government's have already
got them built.

Check out this webpage: (Yes, I know - Fred says that if it's on the
internet, it cannot be believed; but...)
http://www.thewinds.org/archive/government/camp9-97.html





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To : GCR
Another coward who's afraid to take off his mask, EH?

Well, it appears that we have another "elitist", (or is it TRAITOR?)
who is bothered by the "TRUTH"; and, can only come up with "name
calling" as a counter measure.

Eldon Warman
Applicant for job as Village Idiot;
However, have found position filled by GCR


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Subject: Re: Save up to 95% of your taxes
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"Everett Tremblay" wrote:
> According to my sources you need to pay the min of 5% of your
> total Gross income for the year. Visit my Web Page to find out More

Comment: Everett, why would you have to pay 5%? If you never file a
"return of income" ever again, why would you want to send even 5% to
the Government to shred or delete from existence?

Relative to Untaxman, where do you think his detax program came from?

Eldon Warman
Detax Author and Consultant


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From: Eldon Warman 
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Well, Neill,
I was born in New Brunswick in 1942. I was 11 years old when Queen
Lizzie was crowned in England. And, I think you will find that her
status is different in England than it is in Scotland, Wales and
northern Ireland. If you wish to know the difference, you can research
it yourself.

I don't recall any ceremony in which Queen Lizzie sat on a throne and
received the "Crown of Canada'. Maybe I was asleep that day; however, I
doubt it. Without a Crown, ya' ain't a Queen - welll, maybe that
doesn't hold true in San Francisco..

I realize you folks have been living in the imaginary world of OZ for
many years; however, it seems that it is time to wake up and come back
to Kansas... Cause the Wicked Witch of Windsor's going to eat your
lunch!

Eldon Warman
OOOPS! Before Mr. Taxman tags me.. (Sorry to steal your thunder)
Eldon Warman's a homophobiac!


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Subject: Re: Nostradamus' "sept mois" is sidereal Libra!(Oct 17 - Nov 16)...
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In article <380B9D3C.C6A4AEA7@bigplanet.com>, James Scannell
 wrote:
> Dragonblaze wrote:

> Why would anyone want to bet someone who would have no chance for
> survival about the event that will kill them, guaranteeing that
> collection would be impossible? Oh, I'm sorry, you were going for a
> sucker bet that you'd never have to pay up if you lost.

Well, the sum could be deposited to a public notary in a _mountain_
city of your choice, thus ensuring you could collect in the extremely
unlikely case that your predicition is correct. Do you still call this
a sucker bet?

Dragonblaze

- God? I'm no God. God has mercy. -


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In article <199910181900.TAA17953@berlin.neuropa.net>, _m~`n_
 wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:19:54 -0700, Dragonblaze
>  lamented in vain:
> >In article <199910181717.RAA16374@berlin.neuropa.net>, M / n
> > wrote:
> >> On Mon, 18 Oct 1999 08:56:46 -0600, "Tom Vilot" is a sniveler:

[snip]


> >I live in a coastal area. Now, how about putting your money where
> your
> >mouth is: how much are you willing to bet on that I'll be forced
> to
> >move upwards from here this year? Hell, I'll even give you 200-1.
> Dare
> >to bet?
> >
> >Dragonblaze
> >
> Realize that run-up from the incoming tidal waves[tsunamis]
> might reach ten times the height of the wave...God help us!
> &The ~80 meter wave resulting from the 1300-meter meteoroid
> impact will spread out thousands of miles in all directions,
> w/ tremendous subterranean seismic waves rolling "far away
> sinking great countries"[ref. C1Q69 Michel de Nostradamus].
> If you want to live in fantasyland you go right ahead. The
> prophesied earthchanges are commencing and there's nothing
> you can say or do to stop the cataclysm...it is inevitable!
> And this is only the beginning; by or before October 2001
> the >20 degree shift of the *geographical* poles will find
> waters running up over a mile high [e.g. Denver, Colorado].
> The skeptics a.k.a. gradualist-uniformitarianists will mock
> to the bitter end.  The 'Khan of Terror' impact is imminent
> (neocatastrophists never had it so good). All you naysayers
> will very soon fall silent just watch and see. BE PREPARED!

I thought so. Not too willing to bet on this, are you? Could it be
you're teensy weensy unsure of your 'truth'? I'll be mailing you on the
18th of November.

Dragonblaze

- God? I'm no God. God has mercy. -


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fredg@his.com (Fred Grosby) wrote:
> That's the Adolph Hitler school, and the KKK school (of which the
> David Duke school is a part) as well.
> Fine.  Now we know who we're dealing with.
> Fred Grosby

Strange you would bring this point up. Historical records tell us that
Hitler was a Jew by the name of Schickelgrueber (Shekel Grubber).  The
KKK was originated by a Mr. Pike, a chief honcho of the Freemasons in
the USA. It is well documented that the Freemasonry is a direct
offshoot of Cabalism and Zionism.
        See: http://www.ametro.net/crownrights/masonry/

Notice that "cabal" has within its structure the word "baal". Baalism
was the worship of material goods, the veneration of greed and lust,
and sympolized by the erect penis. Great motivations for human beings
who are supposed to be living as is given in Micah 6: 6-8!!??

Eldon Warman
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(According to Mr. Taxman)


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Mimi Weasel wrote:
> Can't you EVER write ANYTHING that isn't a LIE??? Hitler was never
> a Jew,

Comment: OH? How about this from a biography (Yeah! I know.  Lies!
Lies!):
"Hitler's father, Alois, was born on 7 June 1837 to Maria Anna
Schickelgruber, unmarried daughter of Johann Schickelgruber from the
village of Strones in Lower Austria. The entry in the baptismal
register of Dollerscheim parish shows that the baby was christened
Alois Schickelgruber. The space in the register for the father's name
was left blank.
When Alois was five years old, his mother married a mill worker named
Johann Georg Hiedler. Alois was passed over to his step-father's
brother, who raised him like his own son.
In 1876, when he was 39, Alois, now a customs official in the Austrian
service, succeeded in persuading his foster father, Johann Nepomuk
Hiedler, to have his birth records altered. In the old register, under
the entry of 7 June 1837, the parish priest was persuaded to change the
term 'illegitimate' to 'legitimate', to fill in the name Johann Georg
Hiedler in the blank space for the name of the father ­p; accidently
mis-spelling it 'Johann Georg Hitler' in the process, and to insert a
marginal note: 'The undersigned confirm that Georg Hitler, registered
as the father, who is well known to the undersigned witnesses, admits
to being the father of the child Alois as stated by the child's mother,
Anna Schickelgruber, and has requested the entry of his name in the
present baptismal register'. Three illiterate witnesses appended their
marks to the statement. The statement was clearly false if only to the
extent that by this time both the mother and alleged father had been
dead for about twenty years. From January 1877 Alois Schickelgruber
called himself Alois Hitler.

Mimi wrote:
>the KKK was formed by a former Confederate general and
Freemasonry has existed for CENTURIES. George Washington (a Freemason)
said "America will become what Freemasonry already is; a temple of
virtue" Are you going to claim that George Washington was a Jew?

Comment: There are no historical records that show the Freemasons, as
we know the mystery cult that exists today, existed before the mid
1700's - along with the primary directive organization, the
Illuminatti. Organizations such as the Templars and Hospitalers had
their secret rites; but, they were not the modern Freemasons. The
American Freemason organization to which Washington belonged was a
Christian based organization and likely had roots in the Midaeval
Templars. The American Freemasons were taken over by the Scottish and
French controlled Freemasons (Venetians Zionists). And, Washington
doesn't necessarily show clean hands either. He certainly made sure the
US Constitution wasn't ratified by the true sovereign of the USA - the
People. This "oversight" has cost the American People their birthright
and their liberty.

Mimi wrote:
You idiot revisionist liars are all the same; stupid and gullible.

Comment: I would apply for the position of village idiot in your town
and start the local chapter of the liar's club; however, I find that
Mimi has already filled the position; and; she already owns the local
franchise for the liar's club. What can I do?

Mimi wrote:
Perhaps you should invest in a library card and do your own research
that which is being fed to you is terribly wrong and anyone with even a
modicum of education can see right through your lies and inaccuracies.

Comment: I would suggest most history books have been extensively
modified. Except for those who would rule the world for their financial
gain and power, I can't see the motivation for any others to modify the
history books.  Motivation for the modification of history seems most
present in the Zionist's plans for world domination. Although it isn't
pleasing what Jews are learning and believing in their synagogues and
the Talmud, the Zionist agenda is a radical departure into Satanism.

That is why thinking Jews are getting worried these days. The Zionists
have no quams about throwing Jews or anyone else into their holocaust
fires when it suits their ambitions. Sure, there are many Anglo-Saxon,
German, French, Spanish and other names associated with Satanic
Zionism; however, the top names are still Khazar Jew or Venetian family
names. (Bauer, Schiff, Kuhn, Leob, Hohenzollern (Windsor), Cabotti, to
name a few.)

Eldon Warman


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"Neill McKay" wrote:
> Maybe you were asleep.  Otherwise, you would have heard the part
of the Oath in which she swore to 'govern the peoples of the United
Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, Canada, Australia, New
Zealand, the Union of South Africa, Pakistan, and Ceylon, and of [her]
possessions and the other territories to any of them belonging or
pertaining, according to their respective laws and customs'.  Around
the same time, she was proclaimed 'Supreme Liege Lady in and over
Canada' in Ottawa. Noteworthy is the fact that the crown which appears
in Canadian heraldry (on coats of arms, in the logos of certain
government agencies, on the forarms of warrant officers and petty
officers in the Canadian Forces, etc.) is St.Edward's crown, the one
she was actually crowned with.  For purposes relating strictly to the
United Kingdom, she wears the Imperial State Crown. So we have one
crown for the Commonwealth to share among themselves, and one for
British purposes.

Comment: I still say you are hopping around the Land of Oz.
King George 5th, signed the Statute of Westminster into law in 1931,
Nowhere in that document, which gives up ALL legislative, commercial
and judicial authority over the Dominions, was there ANY sovereignty
retained by the Monarch of Great Britain over these former colonies.
The two year old's game of pretend does not reality make!  All the
hearldry of which you speak came to a grinding halt in 1931. It is only
the devious minds of those who control the "Crown" of the City of
London that have continued to foist this figment of imagination upon
the Canadian People. City of London?

See: http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/bb980304.htm

Since, I'm sure, you won't go there, let me quote a few paragraphs:

"When people hear "The Crown", they automatically think of the King and
Queen. When they hear "London" or "The City", they instantly think of
the capital of England in which the monarch officially resides since
London's expansion absorbed the City of Westminster.

"The City" is in fact a privately owned Corporation - or sovereign
state - occupying 677 acres in the heart of the 610 square mile
"Greater London" area. The population of the City is 5,000 whereas
Greater London has 8 million.

"The Crown" is a committee of 12-14 men who rule this independent
sovereign state known as London or "The City". "The City" is not a part
of England and is not subject to the Sovereign nor under rule of
Parliament. It is an independent state, like Kowloon City in Hong Kong,
which belonged to Communist China. It's the Vatican of the commercial
world.

The City is ruled by a Lord Mayor elected for one year. When the Queen
visits the City she's met by the Lord Mayor at Temple Bar, the symbolic
gate of the City. She bows to him and asks permission to enter his
private, sovereign State. He grants permission to enter by handing her
the sword of State. During such State visits, the Lord Mayor with his
robes and chain, his entourage in medieval costume, outshines the Royal
party, which can dress-up no further than service uniforms. The Lord
Mayor leads the Queen into the City of which he is the monarch and she
is his subject. (My note: See Magna Carta: Article 13)

The Rothschild-controlled Bank of England, Lloyd's underwriters, London
Stock Exchange, leading international trading concerns, as well as
headquarters of the newspaper and publishing world are located here.
The small clique who rule the City dictate to the British Parliament,
Prime Minister and Cabinet."  End quote.

The "Crown of Thorns" carries a bit more authority over Canadians than
does the crown of any English saint.
End of discussion!

Eldon Warman
Detax Author and Consultant
(The topic for which I came on this discussion group
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"Neill McKay" wrote:
> That's exactly the point.  The Queen of the United Kingdom has no
> constitutional connection with Canada.  The Queen of Canada, on
> the other hand, is entrenched in the constitution of Canada.

Comment: Who in the Hell entrenched a Constitution, let alone a Queen
of Canada??? The true sovereign of Canada, the People, certainly
didn't. Quebec certainly didn't. The IMPOSTOR Federal Government
certainly didn't have the authority to do that. WHO DID???  The joke
called the Canadian Constitution would better be described as ensewered.
That's where such crap belongs.

> I don't think so.  There is a Canadian heraldic authority,
> established in the last twenty years or so.
Question: Who established this?  The IMPOSTOR Federal Government?

The Canadian Security Intelligence Service, also established fairly
recently, features a crown on its badge.

QUESTION: Who established CSIS? The IMPOSTOR Federal Government?

> The rank insignia I mentioned are part of the integrated Canadian
Forces rank system created in the late 'sixties.  The coat of arms of
Nunavut, designed this year, includes the crown.  Heraldry is alive and
well.

QUESTION:  Who is responsible for all of this?  The IMPOSTOR Federal
Government?

Eldon Warman


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"Neill McKay" wrote:
> Maybe you were asleep.  Otherwise, you would have heard the part
of the Oath in which she swore to 'govern the peoples of the United
Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, Canada, Australia, New
Zealand, the Union of South Africa, Pakistan, and Ceylon, and of [her]
possessions and the other territories to any of them belonging or
pertaining, according to their respective laws and customs'.

Comment: It's strange that the British Government had made it clear, as
early as 1948, that Canadians were not "British subjects". She was
being sworn in as the Monarch of Great Britain - not the Queen of
Canada. And besides, if the Queen honours oaths as much as Jews and
Freemasons do, then such an oath and a loonie may get you a cup of
coffee.

>Around the same time, she was proclaimed 'Supreme Liege Lady in and
over Canada' in Ottawa.

Question: Who bestowed this "honourary position"? The People of Canada?

Eldon Warman


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(Fred Grosby) wrote:
> This is where I get off your bus, Eldon.  I've read Branch Dividian
> stuff and Freemen stuff and a whole bunch of other sovreign citizen
> stuff.  Mostly passages taken out of context to support a
> predetermined conclusion allowing them to evade the rule of law.  I
> don't buy any of it.

Comment.  Fred, get back on the subject. Your diversionary rhetoric
puts you back into the "street fighter' catagory.
You certainly have no evidence that either group mentioned broke any
laws relative to the common law States in which they were brutalized by
the Despotic Federal Government of the United States. You obviously are
a sucker for New World Order propaganda. If you respect Jefferson,
respect what he believed.

> I've read the Statute of Westminster, and as far as I can see
> that is not what it says.  It might be what you wish it said, but I
don't think that the plain language of the document support it.

Comment: Au contrare. My knowledge of the Statute of Westminster comes
>from the man who instigated its passage in Britain -one Roger Smith of
Qu'Appelle Saskatchewan. And of other knowledgable men of influence in
the early 1930's. Example: The (Br.) Interpretations Act, 1889.
Sect. 18 Para.3, - The expression "colony" shall mean any of Her
Majesty's Dominions exclusive of the British Islands and British India,
and where parts of such dominions are under both a Central Legislature
and a Local Legislature for the purposes of this definition shall be
deemed to be one Colony.

> "In this Act the expression "Dominion" means any of the following
>     Dominions, that is to say, the Dominion of Canada ... "
> Not the provinces individually, the Dominion as a whole.  I don't
> see how you can get around that.

ANSWER: Section 7(2) addresses the conferred rights of legislative
sovereignty as being applicable to the Provinces of Canada. They didn't
do that for Australian States or other political divisions of the
former Dominions (colonies). The same legislative sovereign rights
cannot belong to two levels of government.

Eldon Warman


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Mimi Weasel wrote:
> NEWSFLASH: Jews don't DO baptism, that is a Christian rite.
> Mimi Weasel

Sorry about that. Adam Weishaupt, the founder of the Illuminatti was a
Jew who supposedly converted to Catholicism. Calvin's name was
originally Cantor, I'm told. There are hundreds of Jews who took on the
Christian cloak so they could live in peace; but, all were supposedly
absolved of their sins and oaths by the KOL NIDRE prayer.

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From: Eldon Warman 
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The question remains.
When and where is the authority given allowing the Monarch of
Great Britain  to be the Crown of Canada.  No such actual “Crown�
exists.  The Manarch rules under the symbology of sovereignty of an
actual “crown�.  Where is it FOLKS?

Did the Statute of Westminster terminate the rule of the Monarch of
Great Britain over Canada and other former dominions?

Section 2(1) of the Statute of Westminster (1931) states, quote: The
Colonial Laws Validity Act, 1865, shall not apply to any law made after
the commencement of this Act by the Parliament of a Dominion. Unquote.
Notice? "shall not apply to ANY law made".

Not recognizing any validity or authority in a federal government in
Canada, Section 7(2)recognized this part of Section 2, and the
remainder of Section 2, is applied to th Provinces and Provincial
Legislatures. Section 7(3) seems to indicate that “powers� were
conferred on the Parliament of Canada; however, Section 7(2) would
negate that; as, the same powers cannot be conferred upon ttwo levels
of government. Or, was Canada’s status as a colony never actually
terminated?

What did the Colonial Laws Validity Act, 1865 say?

Quote: Sec.6 - Any proclamation purported to be published by the
authority of the Governor, circulating in any newspaper in the
Colonies, signifying Her Majesty’s assent to any such Colonial law or
Her Majesty’s disallowance of any such reserved bill as aforesaid,
shall be prima facie evidence of such disallowance or assent. Unquote.
Doesn't sound like very much "sovereignty to rule" was retained here?

If Queen Lizzie of Great Britain is “Queen of Canada�, by WHAT
authority is she Queen of Canada?   And, by what authority is this
IMPOSTOR Parliament of Canada using “the Crown� or “Regina� as the
“Person� laying suits and criminal charges against Sovereign
Canadians?   PRETEND? IMAGINATION?  USURPATION?

Facts presented are from a paper by Walter F. Kuhl, SoCred. MP,
Edson-Jasper, 1935-1949: “Canada, A Country Without A Constitution�

Eldon Warman
Detax Author and Consultant


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"Polish Prince" wrote:
> One thing in Life, Never, but Never, disagree with a Jew. You will
> be branded an Anti-Semite for Life. You never disagree with the
> Stupid thought of the individual, it is always twisted as an attack
> upon the Zionist people as a whole. Never disagree with a Jewish
> individual.

Comment:  Thanks for the advice. Actually, that whole scheme is clearly
defined in the Protocols of The Learned Elders of Zion.  If you are
unfamiliar with this all too authentic and "right on the nose" document
as to what is going on in this imposition of the New World (dis)Order,
the first version of which was reported by the Duke of Bavaria in 1785,
but now being propagandized as "a KGB fraud", it is readily available
on the 'net. Funny that ALL the people involved in the Bolchevik
Revolution (1917) were Khazar Jews, including Lenin, and the operation
was funded by Kuhn-Leob, and other New York bankers. Doesn't that mean
that the KGB was set up by Russian Khazar Jews? The logic of the KGB
putting out the Protocols as anti-semitic propaganda evades all logic.
If you wish, I can post the names of those who led the Bolchevik
Revolution. They were NOT Slavic Russians!

Yes, Paul McKeever, I would like to keep the discussion within the
confines of "income tax"; however, I teach Canadians how to recover
their Sovereign Natural Person status; and, to do that, I must also
educate Canadian on what sort of CRAP has put them into this Feudal
servitude. Karl Marx, a Jew, wrote the program, and that directly out
of the books of the Talmud. Sigmund Freud and Pavlov, Jews, conditioned
the minds of the stupid "Goy" to cower down and accept the despotic
program of the Talmud.

I know that you "goy" lawyers are want to act like a couple of cattle
in the slaughterhouse yard bickering over a mouthful of hay; however,
if you don't wake up to the realities soon, you and your grandchildren
are going to be burned hamburger! ...Second thought: One has to have
some balls before one can have grandchildren...

Eldon Warman
The anti-semitic Semite
and Detax Author and Consultant


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Mimi Weasel wrote:
> Peter Lawford wrote:
> > Really, Eldon, are you that damned dumb?
> Apparently, he is.
> Mimi Weasel

YUP! DUMB! Dumb Like a FOX!

Eldon Warman
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Mimi,
Would you care to explain to me why the Warburg bank of Amsterdam
financed Adolf Schickelgruber? You know, the fellow who took the GOY
name to hide the fact that he was a Jew. The Warburgs were/are an
intermarried branch of the Rothchild Empire. Your vile diatribes, name
calling and lack of a sensible answer will tell the readers of this
discussion-news group that you are as phony as a Federal Reserve Note.

Eldon Warman
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Mimi,
That's an interesting story you tell about the Protocols; however, it
does not explain why today's events in politics, finances, education,
health care, abortion, morality, family life, Freemason influences, and
much else so closely resemble the model presented in the Protocols. Are
you saying that it is all coincidence? That this "vile" propaganda
against the Jews is but a figment of imagination by some anti-semitic,
anti-Freemason bigot? You've got to be kidding if you think people will
swallow that one - well, maybe Fred and Mr. Taxman will - they seem to
have bulldog mouths and jaybird assholes..

It is not very difficult to learn the depth to which the Rothchild and
Warburg clan has taken over world finances and the world's gold supply.
It is not difficult to get information - from many sources, and all
matching, as to how these bankers have caused genocide in many parts of
the world. How can you apologise and attempt to deceive people on these
things. Just how stupid do you think people are? Are all sources of
information which doesn't agree with the program of the Protocols
liars, anti-semitic idiots?

Eldon Warman
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Original text gained some unwanted characters - must have been the work
of Fred or Mr. Taxman

THE QUESTION REMAINS

When and where is the authority given allowing the Monarch of
Great Britain  to be the Crown of Canada.  No such actual
“Crown" exists.  The Monarch rules under the symbology of sovereignty
of an actual “crown".  Where is it FOLKS?

Did the Statute of Westminster terminate the rule of the Monarch of
Great Britain over Canada and other former dominions?

Section 2(1) of the Statute of Westminster (1931) states, quote:
The Colonial Laws Validity Act, 1865, shall not apply to any law made
after the commencement of this Act by the Parliament of a Dominion.
Unquote.

Notice? "shall not apply to ANY law made".
Not recognizing any validity or authority in a federal government
in Canada, Section 7(2)recognized this part of Section 2, and the
remainder of Section 2, is applied to th Provinces and Provincial
Legislatures. Section 7(3) seems to indicate that “powers" were
conferred on the Parliament of Canada; however, Section 7(2) would
negate that; as, the same powers cannot be conferred upon two levels
of government. Or, was Canada's status as a colony never actually
terminated?

What did the Colonial Laws Validity Act, 1865 say?
Quote: Sec.6 - Any proclamation purported to be published by the
authority of the Governor, circulating in any newspaper in the
Colonies, signifying Her Majesty's assent to any such Colonial law or
Her Majesty's disallowance of any such reserved bill as aforesaid,
shall be prima facie evidence of such disallowance or assent.
Unquote.

Doesn't sound like very much "sovereignty to rule" was retained here?

If Queen Lizzie of Great Britain is “Queen of Canada", by WHAT
authority is she Queen of Canada?   And, by what authority is this
IMPOSTOR Parliament of Canada using “the Crown" or “Regina" as the
“Person" laying suits and criminal charges against Sovereign
Canadians?   PRETEND? IMAGINATION?  USURPATION?

Facts presented are from a paper by Walter F. Kuhl, SoCred. MP,
Edson-Jasper, 1935-1949: “Canada, A Country Without A Constitution".

Eldon Warman
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"Peter Lawford" wrote:
> A Federal Reserve Note will cash, and buy me a Big Mac for lunch.
> Your theories won't. What you've quoted below is post-Hitler Nazi
> propoganda.

ANSWER: In your ignorance, (or, is it simply a devious attempt to
sidetrack fact), you should know that Naziism and Communism came out of
the same bucket - Talmudism. I am absolutely a Jeffersonian
Libertarian. There is absolutely nothing in my philosophy of government
that bespeaks of any collectivism - a product of Talmudism.

> Do you also believe that it is a lie that Germany build death
camps for Jews? Some websites say that it is all revisionist history;
do you believe them?

ANSWER: I really don't care one way or the other. My concern is for my
grandchildren in Canada. Where are your loyalties?

ANSWER: I have read the book by David Irving, (can't recall the title
at the moment); however, it was well documented with wartime photos.
There are during the war pictures of Auswitz, and after the war photos.
The supposed creamatoriums did not exist during the war; but were built
after - so the official military pictures show. The camp was a coal to
gas plant owned and operated by I. Farben. - a company associated with
large American companies. If that was a fabricated "holocaust" setting,
what can one expect of the other sites?  The Jews, through the
influence of the Zionist controlled ADL use the same name calling and
invectives, had David Irving banned from Canada. Never did they offer
any honest proof that what he said in his book was false. That hardly
bespeaks of an honest person or group.  Notice that they have used
invective to counter my facts, thoughts, and beliefs on this discussion
group. The KOL NIDRE allows them to lie, cheat, steal, and bear false
witness with supposed impunity. The Torah and the Books of the Prophets
certainly do not allow that type of mindset for the TRUE JEWS not "the
People who call themselves Jews; but are of the Synagogue of Satan".

Eldon Warman
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Thanks for the advice, Fred.

Unlike some of the people on this debate group
who apparently "Know It All", I would readily admit that I have a lot
to learn about many things, the least of which is computers and the
internet.

So, when you hear or see me calling you names and using invectives to
counter any arguments that you may have, rather than making a
counterpoint or offering proof of the opposite to your views, you will
know that I have reached the grand plateau of Knowing All.

Eldon Warman
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I think "Mr. Taxman" is David Sherman in disguise.

Mr. Sherman would lose $millions$ if Keith had prevailed - and would
have wasted his whole life, which he has dedicated to TREASON against
the Canadian People.

Since the Income Tax is based upon a fraudulent contract which changes
Canadian people into legal entities and outlaws them in violation of
the "liberties, rights and concessions" that were declared forever in
the Magna Carta, what can one expect of Mr. Sherman or his alter-ego,
Mr. Taxman but gloating that their IMPOSTOR and Fraudulent Judge
Lackies ruled against Keith. (Watch Mr. Taxman come back with drivel
and invective!)

Paul, you as a learned lawyer, should know the common Law axiom:
1. "Actus legis nemini facit injuriam"
      An act of the law wrongs no man.
Translation: An act of the law is to be so limited in its operation
that no right shall be prejudiced.
Precedent: 2 Bl. Com.123; 69 Ga. 400: Broom, Max. 127, 409.

Eldon Warman
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"Peter Lawford" wrote:
> Eldon believe just about anything anyone tells him, whether it is
> non-existent death camps, false claims about Hitler's heritage,
> Area 51, Blackhawk helicopters near his house nightly (that's just
> the air conditioning compressor, Eldon!), Loch Ness Monster, Bermuda
> Triangle, Bigfoot, Elvis-Is-Alive-And-Living-In-Amarillo, etc.

ANSWER: No.  I don't believe everything. I don't believe I can have a
Rabbe speak a prayer that allows me to cheat, lie, steal, commit false
witness, and all sorts of despicable acts (Kol NIDRE), and have my
Father in Heaven forgive me for such acts. The only God I know who
would forgive such things from his children lives in a place called
Hell!

> If I only thought he had some assets, I would create a scam and
> take them -- not a jury in the world would convict me.
> PL
ANSWER:  If the jury were made up of Freemasons and Jews, you likely
would; as, apparently they are allowed to lie for a fellow mason or a
fellow jew. Fortunately, my assets are my Spiritual Connection to My
Father; and no human fluncky court can take those assets away from me.

Eldon Warman
AKA: A friend of Adolf Shekel-Grubber, according to the "elitists" who
can't find a decent answer to my factual statements.


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An Irishman was asked: Why do you Irish fight each other?
His answer:  Because we have no worthy opponents!

I am getting frustrated with this Discussion Group.
There seems to be very few participants who wish to carry on an honest
debate. Most are into "invective" and name calling".

Hey Folks!  This doesn't constitute a philosophic debate. look up
"Errors of Philosophy" or "Fallacies of Philosophy" to learn the
Marquis of Queensbury rules on debate.

The Income Tax issue is tied into the Zionist banker's usury money
system, an evil scheme that has destroyed nation-states since the days
of antiquity.

My statements on that aspect led to the "Mad Dogs" of the Bnai' Brith
(Brotherhood of the Sons of Ai) being turned loose upon me. "Ai" was
the ancient capitol of the Edomite Empire - the ancient to modern sworn
enemy of True Israel and Judah (see Protocols of the Learned Elders of
Zion - that "faked" script that is 100% factual in light of today's
newspaper). Their vain an boisterous expletives, invectives, and name
calling was suppose to do a character assination of me and my
statements - without truthfully confronting the issues raised. Po-Poing
is not a debating technique that worthy of any educated human being;
and, certaily not worthy of enlightened human beings.

Eldon Warman
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"Peter Lawford" wrote:
> You're loyalty is not to your grandchildren, it is to stupidity. I
> am not Jewish, and do not have any Jewish blood in my lineage. So, I
> am not a Zionist (and in fact am not happy about U.S. aid to Israel).
> Yet, my Grandfather fought in the war, and visited several of the
> death camps immediately prior to and immediately after the end of the
> war. He took photographs of the death camps, the originals of which I
> have in my possession. Prior to his death, he told me about visiting
> the camps.
Comment:  There you go "gutter fighting" like Fred.  You may not be a
Jew; but, you're sure acting like one.  Sure, lots of people died in
the German death camps - mostly Germans who had a different political
view than the Zazis - Jehovah's Witnesses, Communists, village idiots
(good thing I wasn't there), cripples, infirm elderly, clergy who spoke
out, etc. etc., as well as many Khazar Jews who had taken over most of
the businesses in the towns and villages and were raping and pillaging
the people just like their big Zionist brothers are now doing to Canada.

No one seems to be able to find any more than about 2,000,000 million
Jews in all of Europe in 1940. They keep pretty good records of such
things there. Unless they did a lot of breeding in the prison camps,
the holocaust of 6,000,000 is a huge exageration - not that one killed
by murder is acceptable; however, the story seems to serve the purpose
of laying a guilt trip on even the countries that helped stop the
Zionist inspired and paid for Nazi regime, so that all of the western
world can have its pockets picked and its pantries looted by these
thugs.

What are you doing to make Canada, or wherever you are living, a better
place and a free society for your grandchildrem? Obviously, not much!

If you think you are going to leave them money, don't be surprised when
you wake up January 1st and find all your savings have blown away like
steam from a whistle. Then, you may realize that there is more to life
than material wealth and influence. You might consider "Freedom" as an
alternate choice of gifts for your grandchildren.  I suspect they would
thank you ever so much more.

Eldon Warman
AKA:  Stupid


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Sorry, sir,

I am not concerned what happened 60 years ago.  I am concerned what is
happening in Canada today. It seems that I haven't cornered the market
on "stupidity" and "idiocy". You seem to have arrived first; and, with
the biggest basket.

The damned Zionist bankers, and their lackeys are robbing the people of
this country blind - and, into destitution, and you quibble about some
dubious historical facts that has absolutely nothing to do with the NOW.

I just can't get over how many TREASONOUS BASTARDS that are showing up
to defend these Satanists and their usury shekel grubbing. What in Hell
is wrong with your simple minds? What kind of world do you want for
your grandchildren? I quote from an interesting book in which the
author says: "A country that does not consider the welfare of its
grandchildren cannot continue to exist."  From what I am hearing here
on this discussion group, neither Canada nor the USA has long to exist
as an identifiable nation.

Eldon Warman
Detax Author and Consultant



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It's in the history books.  If you can't read, may I suggest "Dick and
Jane" to start; then maybe Dr. Seuss for yourmore advanced readin.

Maybe, some day you will grow up and play with the big boys....

(           )  Whatever name suits your fancy.


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Why don't you do your homework before you open your mouth?
"Tis better to keep your mouth shut, and let people think you're a fool,
than to open it, and remove all doubt."

Talmud. A collection of books originating in Babylon during the
captivity of Judah (around 550BC). The term translated to English is:
"The Wisdom of the Rabbim" (More like "The evil trash of of the Rabbim
of the Synagogue of Satan").

Torah. Meaning: The Law  The Pentatuch - the first five books of the
Bible is also known as the Torah. The remainder of the Old Testament is
the Books of the Prophets.

The Talmud is a collection of hate literature, specifically against
Christians, and more specifically against Northern Europeans. There is
more evidence available that the People of Northern Europe are the
direct descendents of Israel than there is evidence that the People who
call themselves Jews ever had an ancestor in Palestine. They were
Turk-Maygar stock who converted to Babylonian Judaism in 740 AD.

For the simple minded: Torah = Good    Talmud = Evil

Eldon Warman
The anti-semitic Semite


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Notice the Zionist "assination" of Christian identity, and their sleazy
attempt at tieing "aryan nations " a Zionist controlled organization,
in with a Christian belief system. British Israelitism may be hooey,
but a lot of highly qualified scholars have uncovered substantial
evidence that it may have some truth to it. These scholars are not
"radical racists" as some on this discussion group would have you
readers to believe.

Don't believe the Zionists would be part of an organization like the
Mafia, and aryan nations? Read the Protocols!

Eldon Warman
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Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
> Indeed - see http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies - they are
> useful when dealing with Judeophobes whose usual response to
> requests
Comment: What other response can one expect from the "mad dogs"
guarding the Gates of Hell (see Revelation 2:9 and 3:9).  I didn't say
or write it. A fellow from the Roman Province of Palestine called John
wrote it 2,000 years ago.

> for information is to invoke the Wascally Zionist Conspiracy...
Comment:  I think you people are rapidly losing ground trying to hide
the fact, and to divert attention away from the fact, that the "Money
Lenders" have a grand scheme going.

> >The Income Tax issue is tied into the Zionist banker's usury money
> >system, an evil scheme that has destroyed nation-states since the
> days of antiquity.

> I rest my case.
Comment: Rested and avoided; but, NOT WON, I might add.

> >My statements on that aspect led to the "Mad Dogs" of the Bnai'
> Brith
> Who are the "Mad Dogs" of B'nai Brith, Mr. Warman? (Do try to spell
> the organization's name correctly, won't you, to avoid charges of
> abject ignorance?)
Comment:  Look in the mirror!  My spelling would look like this, if my
true feelings were displayed:  #%!*^#?@##
How about my analysis of the name? Ben = son of  Ai = ancient Edomite
capitol Brith = brotherhood    That sure doesn't sound like the
b'nhebron Brith or b'nsalem Brith or b'n judah Brith.  If you are true
Jews, why the name of an Edomite city? Why take the name of a people
who have always been the mortal enemies of the Israelites?  Any
plausable explanations. Bet you don't touch that one?

Eldon Warman
The anti-semitic Semite
> The Nizkor Project:    An Electronic Holocaust Educational Resource
>                           Search: http://www.nizkor.org/search.html
>                         Funding: http://www.nizkor.org/funding.html

Comment:  A project of deceitful obfuscation, that only convinces the
already duped TRAITORS who seem to be enjouyng their slavery to these
Zionist Bankers.

Eldon Warman
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My! My!  Aren't we showing our intelligence here, Mimi!

Sure you're not related to Taz the Tazmanian devil of cartoon fame?

Seems like you are whirling around in a dust cloud very much like he
does.  Bluster is NOT an answer to provable facts.

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"David M. Sherman" wrote:

> Mr. Warman evidently doesn't know any Hebrew grammar. B'nai is
> simply the linked form of "banim", which is the plural of "ben",
> meaning "son" or "child". B'nai simply means "children of", or "sons
> of". Nothing to do with any Edomite capital. One can construct
> thousands of identical examples: anashim="men", an'shai="men of".
sforim="books", sifrai="books of".

Comment: Are you sure about that, David?   "Sons of Brotherhood"  seems
like a strange appalation for a group? And, especially in light of
Chapter 17(4) of the Protocols:
 4.  THE KING OF THE EDOMITES WILL BE THE REAL POPE OF THE UNIVERSE,
THE PATRIARCH OF AN INTERNATIONAL CHURCH.

> Perhaps this newsgroup should return to discussion of tax law.

Comment: I certainly can agree with that statement!

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Need a list?

How about:
The Rothchild (Bauer) clan
The Morgans
The Warburgs
The Schiffs
Dozens of other US Federal Reserve, English and Swiss bankers
About 3/4 of the Clinton cabinet
Clinton's wife
Janet Reno
Ms. Albright
Allan Greenspan
Henry Kissinger
The current Pope (Katz)
Conrad Black

Just the beginning, I'm afraid of a list that could be put together;
but, I haven't got a couple of weeks, so, this will have to do.

So , sue me if you like.  I own my own strawman "nom de guerre",
so, have at it!

Eldon Warman
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Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:
> > Eldon Warman wrote:
> >And, how about the threat and underhanded tactics of Fred Grosby,
> >who basically admits to having had HotMail shut down my e-mail
> account.
> How did Mr. Grosby do this, Mr. Warman? Did you violate Hotmail's
> Terms of Service, perchance? (You know, the Terms you agreed to
> respect when you got that Hotmail account?)

Comment: If you could read, a skill which you haven't obviously
mastered, you would know that Fred denied having done it. No, I didn't
use Hotmail in any wrong way. Since MSN refused to tell me when, to
whom, and what the supposed offense was about, I can only assume that
the Jewish types decided to teach a little lesson to one who speaks too
much truth about their evil schemes. I'm sure YOU have the answer as to
who has enough influence at Microsoft to do such a deed - silly as it
was.

Now, I am going to ask you to explain, and without invective please -
otherwise, it will show YOUR evil intent to obfuscate, the following
statements from this webpage:
     http://www.christianbiblestudy.org/OPS/JM/jm0020a.htm
Quote:
One of the major parts of the Talmud can be found in what is called the
CABALLA. According to the Jewish Encyclopedia, the Caballa teaches the:
"exalted position of man, which is the true Jewish view of life and one
appealed to over and over again in the Talmud. It was the Cabalists of
Judaism who developed Jewish 'magic' - the casting of lots; necromancy;
exorcism and astrology. These were all legitimized by the Talmud,
although God's Law demanded the death penalty for anyone who practiced
them, (See Lev. 20:276; Deut. 18: l0-12).

In scathing manner, Jesus linked the Jewish Pharisees of His time with
the Babylonian Red World Power to come, and which His Kingdom would
ultimately destroy. (Read Matt. 23:13-15; 31-35). Jesus went so far as
to say that the converts of Judaism became "two-fold more a child of
hell", than those who converted them, (see Matt. 23:15). You who are
"hell bent" on defending Judaism at all costs, think about this, for
some day you will be held accountable before God, for defending His
enemies. In fact, 2 John 10,11, indicates that if you help them in any
way, you become "partaker in their evil deeds". Think about this the
next time an abortion is performed by a Jewish doctor, in a Jewish
owned abortion clinic.

The Talmud is probably one of the most pornographic sets of books in
existence and under American Law, may not be sent through the mail. One
of its books the SEDER TOHOROTH(meaning cleanness), deals exclusively
with the (mensturant woman) and devotes 509 pages discussing smell,
color, and examination by the Rabbis of menstruation, without any
apparent medical or spiritual reasons. It deals with such things as
"urinating off the roof" and illustrates Christ's accusation to the
Pharisees in Matt. 23:24, that they "make clean the outside of the cup
and the platter; but your inward part is full of ravening and
uncleanness".

Keep in mind, that the TALMUD is supposed to be a religious book, and
according to the dictionary "religious in the sense of defining and
setting moral and character values". As you glance through it, you will
see why Jesus characterized the Pharisees as Hypocrites".

The KETHUBOTH volume, which makes up two books of 728 pages, is filled
with typical Talmudic sex-filth, going so far as to instruct a grown
Jewish man in his right to have sex with a baby girl under three, and a
Jewish mother to have sex with her son, under the age of nine.

The NEADARIM is 282 pages of further silly dirt and immorality.

The GITTIN covers divorce proceedings, while taking time out to consign
Jesus and all Christians to eternity, standing up to their necks in
"boiling excrement".

The SEDER NEZIM, contains rabbinic ramblings on general Jewish law,
which has as it's essence the legal permission for Jews to harm Gentile
property while asserting that Gentile injury to a Jew, is a special
insult to God.

The SANHEDR!N, made up of 781 pages, forms the chief repository, of the
criminal law of Jewry, including the choicest slanders against Jesus
Christ and strangled in Christians. Such as that He "deserved stoning
to death"; "He should be dung"; not because of any sin against God, but
because of His blasphemy against the Pharisees. This is why Jews hate
Him!

In the volume ABODAH ZARAH,the rabbis teach that while adultery between
grown persons is punishable by death, this excludes the minor, or the
wife of a minor and he may commit adultery with his neighbor's wife.

Young children in Judaism may be the legitimate target of the
pedophile, for the Talmud teaches that until a child reaches sexual
maturity, capable of sexual intercourse, they do not rank as a person.
Hence Biblical laws against sodomy (pederasty) do not apply if the boy
is below nine years and one day old. It likewise teaches that under
this age, intercourse with the mother or any grown woman is harmless.
In SANHEDRIN 69b, the age is lowered by Rabbi Shammai in some cases to
eight years.

The foul mother is regarded as pure in Jewish eyes, depending on the
age of the child. Such degrading of children was typical of paganism
throughout the ancient world.

In KETHUBOTH 11b, we read: "When a grown up man has intercourse with a
little girl it is nothing, for when the girl is less than three years
old - it is as, if, one puts the finger n the eye - tears come to the
eye again and again, so does virginity come back to me little girl
under three years".

In SANHEDRIN 55b, we read: "A maiden aged three years and one day, may
be acquired in marriage by coition. . ." (Sexual intercourse).

In YEHOBOTH 60b, in the case of a baby girl who is not Jewish born, she
may be married to a grown priest; "one is fit for cohabitation who has
attained the age of three years and one day" (YEHOBOTH 60b).

Although Moses was most specific in forbidding Israelite women to have
intercourse with beasts, (see Lev. 20:16) and that priests may not
marry women who have been prostitutes (Lev. 21:7). The Talmud puts it's
seal of approval on this act by stating: "Unnatural intercourse does
not cause a woman to be forbidden to marry a High Priest, since then,
you would find no women eligible for marriage".

It teaches that intercourse with close family members is all right
under certain circumstances, as is sex with a dead woman, which inmost
civilized countries today is considered as a crime.
UNQUOTE

Care to comment, Mr. McVay

Eldon Warman
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Fred Grosby wrote:
> Whether you like it or not, credibility is an issue, and you've
> sure blown yours, Eldon.
> No credibility in the ideas put forth by a bigot.

Comment:  That's interesting.  I don't recall having ever mentioned
that I was looking for an approval of credibility from you, or anyone
on this discussion group.

Fred, I am PROUD to be a bigot!
Webster's Dictionary: bigot. one obstinately or intolerantly devoted to
his own church, party, belief, or opinion.

I am obstinately and intolerantly devoted to my grandchildren's welfare
and to Canada - and to the truths taught by Jesus of Nazareth 2,000
years ago. I am totally opposed to the Zionist plans, usury money
system and communistic form of government which they have imposed upon
Canada. So, I guess that surely makes me a bigot.

Eldon Warman
An anti-semitic Semite who is also a bigot (according to Fred
and an Idiot according to Mr. Taxman)


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"Peter Lawford" wrote:
> Yes, this is pretty much the same claim the Nazis made in the late
> 1920's and early 1930's, i.e., it wasn't a global depression caused
> by WWI but instead was a "Jewish conspiracy".

Comment: Haven't done your homework, have you Peter? The international
bankers (read Jews) withdrew money from circulation, and directly
instigated the depression.  The depression wasn't a lack of consumer
products or goods, it was a lack of money in circulation. The banks had
direct control over this.

How about this webpage: 
http://www.rahul.net/liberty/liberty/letters/53letters.html
QUOTE:
Conspiracy: The Evidence
John McCormack makes a serious mistake by sloughing off the conspiracy
theory about "secret" international bankers. He offers no evidence to
arrive at his cavalier conclusion; he disregards the theory, using the
rhetoric of politicians: bizarre, crackpots, silly, political fringe,
absurd . . .

But look at the evidence submitted by conspiracy theorists:

The Federal Reserve Bank is as "federal" as Federal Express! Of the
original 203,053 shares of Federal Reserve stock, 65% is owned by
foreign banking interests and 35% is owned by domestic banking families
-- the Rockefellers and Morgans -- 36,000 shares each. Who are the
other stockholders? Rothschild Banks of London and Berlin, Lazard
Brothers Banks of Paris, Israel Moses Sieff Banks of Italy, Warburg
Bank of Hamburg and Amsterdam, Lehman Brothers Bank of New York, Kuhn
Loeb Bank of New York, and Goldman Sachs Bank of New York.

The following editorial appeared in the London Times, a newspaper owned
by the Rothschild banking dynasty, at the time President Lincoln was
taking action to create an unborrowed currency -- the Greenback: "If
this mischievous financial policy, which has its origin in the American
Republic, shall become permanent, then that government will furnish its
own money without cost! It will pay off its debts and be without debt.
It will have all the money necessary to carry on its commerce. It will
become prosperous without precedent in the history of the world. The
brains and the wealth of all countries will go to America. That
government must be destroyed or it will destroy every monarchy on the
globe!"
UNQUOTE

OH!  I forgot.  Its on the "net; so, it most likely doesn't have any
truth in it.

Eldon Warman
Bigot (according to Fred), and Proud of it!
Oh! Forgot. Idiot (according to Peter)





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(Christopher B. Browne) wrote:
> the association between the identities would be
> meritless,even if your contention about 'treason' had any validity.

Comment: David Sherman teaches income tax law at Queen's University and
writes books on tax law.  He also makes his living as a lawyer looking
after clients with tax problems (according to his webpage).

I teach Canadians that not one natural person need file a return of
income or ever again pay income tax. My program is 100% effective.
Medcalf hasn't been following my program; but, has followed what I told
him over several months, was an erroneous course - using law and
constitution a defense.

Any contract lawyer should have been able to teach Canadians how not to
be pillaged by the Federal Government - but they haven't.  Why? Because
they are totally greedy and self serving - or worse, Quisling TRAITORS.
That can be the only explanation. Mr. Taxman (most likely AKA David
Sherman) has used this debate forum to use scare tactics to keep the
cowardly in the "system". So, he gloats over Keith's failure to
untangle the IMPOSTOR judges web of entrapment into maintaining slavery
for Canadians..

> I think a bunch of people need to read Foucalt's Pendulum; it deals
> very interestingly with the whole notion of conspiracy theories.
> The dangerous bit is that even if the conspiracies are utter
>  nonsense, there are just enough people that truly believe in that
> nonsense to have the potential to be dangerous.

Comment:  And, how then, do you explain the fact that the International
Bankers (read Zionist Jews) have gained full control of the creation
and distribution of money - and have replaced real money with their
fake usury money, have full control over the world's food supply, have
full control over the world's energy supply, have full control over
most of the mineral production, and have major controls over the
world's industrial, chemical and drug companies?  You see no conspiracy
in that?  Get you liberal head out of the sand, fella!

Eldon Warman
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(Fred Grosby) wrote:
> Approval is not the issue.  Credibility is the issue.

Comment: I may not be credible to you, Fred,and the few other
apologists for the infuential Jews who are ruining Canada, who have
jumped onto the wagon to center their attacks on Eldon Warman for his
"exposing of" their (the Zionists) consiracy to destroy Canada and to
put the Canadian People into abject slavery with their usury money
system; however, there are many readers of this discussion group who
seem to find me VERY credible.

Fred wrote;
You don't have to like it, but I do suggest that you get used to it.

Comment: I enjoy the banter.  However, it would be more entertaining if
there were some intelligent people who knew how to honestly carry on a
debate.

Eldon previously wrote:
> >Fred, I am PROUD to be a bigot!
> >Webster's Dictionary: bigot. one obstinately or intolerantly
> >devoted to his own church, party, belief, or opinion.

Fred wrote:
> Since there are many versions of "Webster's dictionary",
> let's be specific.  From Merriam Webster's Collegiate Dictionary,
> Tenth Edition, ISBN 0-87779-708-0:
> "bigot - a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her
> own opinions and prejudices"

Comment: Oh!  This seems to be a subtle diversion; and, a slight
bending of fact, Fred (the dirty street fighter). The version I quoted
>from is Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary - A Merriam-Webster (1975)

Funk & Wagnall (International Edition 1965)
bigot. An illiberal or intolerant adherent of a religious creed or of
any party or opinion.

Eldon wrote previously:
> >I am obstinately and intolerantly devoted to my grandchildren's
> >welfare and to Canada - and to the truths taught by Jesus of
>> Nazareth 2,000 years ago. I am totally opposed to the Zionist plans,
>> usury money system and communistic form of government which they
>> have imposed upon Canada. So, I guess that surely makes me a bigot.

Fred wrote:
> Based on the verifiable definition of "bigot" which I have posted,
> you're obstinately and intolerantly devoted to your prejudice
> against Jews, period.

Comment: Oh! You of poor reading ability... My family name is of
Sephardic Judean ancestry. What I am against is the so-called Jewish
religion based upon possibly the most vile set of books existent on
this planet - the books of the Talmud; and the vile offspring from that
source of hate - Zionism, Cabalism, Freemasonry, Communism and Naziism.
The only thing that Hitler did to cross his benefactors, the Warburg
family of Amsterdam, was to create National German money. That's where
he crossed the line.  The Protocols - apparently last updated in 1917
by a Mr. Ginzberg, states that Jews will be sacrificed to stir up a
sympathetic and guilty mindset in the Goyim, thus helping to implement
their (the Zionists) nefarious plans for a one world despotism.

I realize that the Jews are not the only players in this grand game to
implement the New World Order.  That is why I posted (as a download)
the plans of the Russian Orthodox church and "Old Russia" as the
"Moscow" document at the bottom of my webpage:
http://www.detaxcanada.org  It was written by a Jew who worked for many
years with Lyndon Larouche (an extremely intelligent man who has been
much vilified by the Zionists).

Fred wrote:
> If you're proud of that, so be it.  Your stated pride
> in your bigotry reflects the content of your character quite
> nicely.

Comment:  I don't recall asking your opinion of my "character". Your
opinion of my character and a Loonie or two might get me a cup of
coffee.

> From Merriam Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, Tenth Edition, ISBN
> 0-87779-708-0:
> "anti-Semitism - hostility toward or discrimination against Jews
> as a religious, ethnic, or racial group."

Comment: I have really no specific power of discrimination against Jews
that I know of; but, hostility toward the literature of that religion,
FOR SURE!

Fred wrote:
> "Semite - a member of any number of peoples of ancient southwestern
> Asia including the Akkadians, Phoenicians, Hebrews, and Arabs; a
> descendant of these peoples."

Funk & Wagnalls: Semite. A person believed to be a descendent of Shem -
one of the three sons of Noah.

The people who call themselves Jews are predominately called the
"Ashkenazim" (estimated at 95%). Ashkenaz, son of Gomer, son of
Japheth, son of Noah.

Question: Where do Jews come up with the appelation "Semite" or
Shemite" when referring to themselves? Multiple circumstantial proofs
would indicate that the true Shemites are northern Europeans, as are
the Sephardim, or true Jews.

Is this "hate". NO! It is just delving into the TRUTH of the matter.

Eldon Warman
The IN-CREDIBLE (according to Fred)




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YUP!!!

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(Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
> Mr. Warman, could you (invective deleted) be a bit more
> specific? Please explain, for instance, how the United States
> government has placed "all Americans" into this position vis a vis
> a "Rothchild" bank, and identify these "Rothchild banks?"

Comment: As if you didn't know. But, if you are that naive, may I
suggest you type "Dr. Eugene Schroder" into your favorite search engine.

Then, try: http://igps.org/liveround/patriot/revokssn.html  to learn
how the American trap was set and sprung.

Don't think you will have any trouble finding lots of verifiable
information, if you would take your sunglasses off.

Eldon Warman,
Idiot, and other interesting epithets


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Come on! Mimi.

That whole "skin-head" and "white supremacist" thing is directly out of
the Protocols Of the learned Elders of Zion and the Talmud. There's
nothing in Christian doctrine or the Christian Bible (written by
Judeans) that promotes such activity.

Quoting from this
webpage:http://www.christianbiblestudy.org/OPS/JM/jm0020a.htm

Quote:
The SEDER NEZIM, contains rabbinic ramblings on general Jewish law,
which has as it's essence the legal permission for Jews to harm Gentile
property while asserting that Gentile injury to a Jew, is a special
insult to God.

The SANHEDR!N, made up of 781 pages, forms the chief repository, of the
criminal law of Jewry, including the choicest slanders against Jesus
Christ and strangled in Christians. Such as that He "deserved stoning
to death"; "He should be dung"; not because of any sin against God, but
because of His blasphemy against the Pharisees.

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In article <004aa0e3.793679e7@usw-ex0101-002.remarq.com>, Eldon Warman
 wrote:

[snipped by Noah]

> Comment:  And, how then, do you explain the fact that the
> International
> Bankers (read Zionist Jews) have gained full control of the
> creation
> and distribution of money - and have replaced real money with their
> fake usury money, have full control over the world's food supply,
> have
> full control over the world's energy supply, have full control over
> most of the mineral production, and have major controls over the
> world's industrial, chemical and drug companies?  You see no
> conspiracy
> in that?  Get you liberal head out of the sand, fella!
> Eldon Warman

Eldon, on this "phony money" thing:  As we all know, the Constitution
says the federal government "can raise money" by any mode or system of
taxation. It also says the provinces can impose direct taxes within a
province to raise revenue for provincial purposes. As a result, it has
been suggested that federal and provincial taxing powers may lawfully
overlap. I find this *overlapping* convention, a bit hard to swallow;
since the federal government can raise money by *both* direct and
indirect taxes.  Be that as it may: from what I understand, the Supreme
Court of Canada has never made a decision about the constitutionality
of the Income Tax Act. In fact, a 1967 Alberta Court of Appeals
decision concerning the Breckenridge Speedway Ltd is often cited. This
case dealt with the issue of whether the federal government and a
provincial government "can raise money" through collection of "a
substitute for money"; i.e., Pay to the order of. In other words, bank
issued credit. Is it not, in fact, true that the federal government and
provincial government "can raise money" only as compelled by the
Currency Act?  Assuming this be true, then for this very reason, alone,
the Income Tax Act *must* be Ab Initio, as it violates a basic premise
of law: compelling the citizen to do the impossible. What's the
impossible?  Although a reported 163 Billion was raised in Revenues in
1998, only 30 Billion exist as Notes and Coins. I would, therefore,
like to know what the *offending* of this particular Act (Currency Act)
by another Act of Parliament means to the lawfulness of Acts of
Parlieament. Any comments from the gallery?

Noah





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David,
Thanks for a more rational and logical debate on a subject I had no
desire to get into. My information, correct or incorrect, regarding the
740 AD date of Khazar conversion to Babylonian Judaism comes from
several sources of historical writings by Jewish authors. One that
comes quickly to mind is "The Thirteenth Tribe" by Arthur Koestler. Are
they liars?  Maybe yes?  Maybe no?  Since a fairly large group of
Cohens and Kantors would have been brought into Khazaria for the
conversion, that would explain your understanding of genetics showing
the bloodline within those two family names. Obviously, by tradition
and law, true Hebrews were not to mix with the Goyim. I'm sure those
Hebrew Rabbis have attempted to keep this ancient law. That is why
there is a 5% to !0% margin of error by authors saying that 95% of Jews
are not Hebrew. This is one of many websites with this information(The
Internet - the only information media left to the world that is not
owned and controlled by Jewish elitists.):
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/
Quote:
Benjamin Freeman, Facts Are Facts: "CHAZARS: A people of Turkish origin
whose life and history are interwoven with the very beginnings of the
history of the Jews of Russia...driven on by the nomadic tribes of the
steppes and by their own desire for plunder and revenge... In the
second half of the sixth century the Chazars moved westward...The
kingdom of the Chazars was firmly established in most of south Russia
long before the foundation of the Russian monarchy by the
Varangians...At this time the kingdom of the Chazars stood at the
height of its power and was constantly at war...At the end of the
eighth century...the chagan (king) of the Chazars and his grandees,
together with a large number of his heathen people, embraced the Jewish
religion"

Encyclopedia Americana (1985): "Khazar, an ancient Turkic-speaking
people who ruled a large and powerful state in the steppes North of the
Caucasus Mountains from the 7th century to their demise in the mid-
11th century A.D...In the 8th Century it's political and religious
head...as well as the greater part of the Khazar nobility, abandoned
paganism and converted to Judaism..."

Encyclopedia Britannica (15th edition): "Khazars, confederation of
Turkic and Iranian tribes that established a major commercial empire in
the second half of the 6th century, covering the southeastern section
of modern European Russia...In the middle of the 8th century the ruling
classes adopted Judaism as their religion."

Academic American Encyclopedia (1985): "Ashkenazim, the Ashkenazim are
one of the two major divisions of the Jews, the other being the
Shephardim."

Encyclopedia Americana (1985): "Ashkenazim, the Ashkenazim are the Jews
whose ancestors lived in German lands...it was among Ashkenazi Jews
that the idea of political Zionism emerged, leading ultimately to the
establishment of the state of Israel...In the late 1960s, Ashkenazi
Jews numbered some 11 million, about 84 percent of the world Jewish
population."

The Jewish Encyclopedia: "Khazars, a non-Semitic, Asiatic, Mongolian
tribal nation who emigrated into Eastern Europe about the first
century, who were converted as an entire nation to Judaism in the
seventh century by the expanding Russian nation which absorbed the
entire Khazar population, and who account for the presence in Eastern
Europe of the great numbers of Yiddish-speaking Jews in Russia, Poland,
Lithuania, Galatia, Besserabia and Rumania."

The Encyclopedia Judaica (1972): "Khazars, a national group of general
Turkic type, independent and sovereign in Eastern Europe between the
seventh and tenth centuries C.E. during part of this time the leading
Khazars professed Judaism...In spite of the negligible information of
an archaeological nature, the presence of Jewish groups and the impact
of Jewish ideas in Eastern Europe are considerable during the Middle
Ages. Groups have been mentioned as migrating to Central Europe from
the East often have been referred to as Khazars, thus making it
impossible to overlook the possibility that they originated from within
the former Khazar Empire."

The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia: "Khazars, a medieval people,
probably related to the Volga Bulgars, whose ruling class adopted
Judaism during the 8th cent. The Khazars seem to have emerged during
the 6th cent., from the vast nomadic Hun (Turki) empire which stretched
>from the steppes of Eastern Europe and the Volga basin to the Chinese
frontier. Although it is often claimed that allusions to the Khazars
are found as early as 200 C.E., actually they are not mentioned until
627...most Jewish historians date the conversion of the Khazar King to
Judaism during the first half of this century {A.D.}..."

The primary meaning of Ashkenaz and Ashkenazim in Hebrew is Germany and
Germans. This may be due to the fact that the home of the ancient
ancestors of the Germans is Media, which is the Biblical
Ashkenaz...Krauss is of the opinion that in the early medieval ages the
Khazars were sometimes referred to as Ashkenazim...About 92 percent of
all Jews or approximately 14,500,000 are Ashkenazim.

The Bible relates that the Khazar (Ashkenaz) Jews were/are the sons of
Japheth not Shem: "Now these are the generations of the sons of Noah,
Shem, Ham, and Japheth: and unto them were sons born after the flood.
The sons of Japheth;...the sons of Gomer; Ashkenaz..." So the Bible
verifies that the Ashkenaz Jews [Khazars] are not the descendants of
Shem and cannot be Semite.

The American People's Encyclopedia for 1954 at 15-292 records the
following in reference to the Khazars: "In the year 740 A.D. the
Khazars were officially converted to Judaism. A century later they were
crushed by the incoming Slavic-speaking people and were scattered over
central Europe where they were known as Jews. It is from this grouping
that most German, Polish and Hungarian Jews are descended, and they
likewise make up a considerable part of that population now found in
America. The term Aschenazim is applied to this round-headed,
dark-complexioned division."

Academic American Encyclopedia Deluxe Library Edition, Volume 12, page
66 states: "The Khazars, a turkic people, created a commercial and
political empire that dominated substantial parts of South Russia
during much of the 7th through 10th centuries. During the 8th century
the Khazar Aristocracy and the Kagan (King) were converted to Judaism."

The New Encyclopedia Britannica, Volume 6, page 836 relates: "Khazar,
member of a confederation of Turkic-speaking tribes that in the late
6th century A.D. established a major commercial empire covering the
southeastern section of modern European Russia...but the most striking
characteristic of the Khazars was the apparent adoption of Judaism by
the Khagan and the greater part of the ruling class in about 740...The
fact itself, however, is undisputed and unparalleled in the history of
Central Eurasia. A few scholars have asserted that the Judaized Khazars
were the remote ancestors of many of the Jews of Eastern Europe and
Russia."

Collier's Encyclopedia, Volume 14, page 65 states: "Khazars [kaza'rz],
a semi-nomadic tribe of Turkish or Tatar origin who first appeared
north of the Caucasus in the early part of the third century...In the
eighth century Khaghan Bulan decided in favor of the Jews and accepted
Judaism for himself and for his people..."

New Catholic Encyclopedia, Volume VIII, page 173 relates: "The Khazars
were an ethnic group, belonging to the Turkish peoples, who, toward the
end of the 2d century of the Christian Era, had settled in the region
between the Caucasus and the lower Volga and Don Rivers...At the
beginning of the 8th century, dynastic ties bound the Khazars more
closely to Constantinople, which led to a limited spread of
Christianity among them. They also became acquainted with Judaism from
the numerous Jews who lived in the Crimea and along the Bosphorus. When
the Byzantine Emperor, Leo the Isaurian, persecuted the Jews in A.D.
723, many Jews found refuge in the Khazar kingdom, and their influence
was so great that, around the middle of the 8th century, the King of
the Khazars and many of the Khazar nobility accepted the Jewish faith."

The Cadillac Modern Encyclopedia, page 822, states: "Khazars
(khah'-zahrz), a S Russian people of Turkic origin, who at the height
of their power (during the 8th-10th cent., A.D.) controlled an empire
which included Crimea, and extended along the lower Volga, as far E as
the Caspian Sea. The Khazar Royal Family and Aristocracy converted to
Judaism during the reign of King Bulan (768-809 A.D.) and Judaism was
thereafter regarded as the state religion..."

There are many, many publications we could quote but from the above, we
can clearly see that the Jews fully understand their Khazarian heritage
as the third edition of The Jewish Encyclopedia for 1925 records:
"CHAZARS [Khazars]: A people of Turkish origin whose life and history
are interwoven with the very beginnings of the history of the Jews of
Russia. The kingdom of the Chazars was firmly established in most of
South Russia long before the foundation of the Russian monarchy by the
Varangians (855). Jews have lived on the shores of the Black and
Caspian seas since the first centuries of the common era [after the
death of Christ]. Historical evidence points to the region of the Ural
as the home of the Chazars. Among the classical writers of the Middle
Ages they were known as the 'Chozars,' 'Khazirs,' 'Akatzirs,' and
'Akatirs,' and in the Russian chronicles as 'Khwalisses' and 'Ugry
Byelyye.'..." jews.htm

Eldon Warman




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Caron was a citizen of Quebec, was he not?  What was the essence of the
reason for the P.C. to hear the Caron case? That being the crux of the
matter, does this mean that every Canadian is subject to the findings
of a court of Federal jurisdiction which co-incides with Civil code
law?  I should hope not; for, most lawyers, by far, are *not* schooled
in the *code* which applies *exclusively* to those citizens of the
Province of Quebec. To do otherwise, IMHO, would impart a paramountcy
of prejudice against the choice of an individual to have a court of
competent jurisdiction *within the law of the province* of the
individual accused. In other words, had Caron been a citizen of any
other province, I suggest that the findings would have been more in
line with section 52 of the Charter; but, as Caron *was* a citizen of a
province that adheres to a convention of law code, other than common
law, there should be no question as to the discriminatory aspect of
Caron v King, insofar as the Crown purports the case to apply to all
residents of Canada.

There is no question, at law, that Quebecers are resolute, I believe,
to the convention of Civil code law. On the other hand, citizens of all
other provinces are not.  What prima facie evidence supports that Caron
was a *resident* of Canada?  None that I am aware of. Conversely,
thought, Caron *was* a resident of Quebec. Are you suggesting that a
person who is classified as a resident of Quebec, is also a resident of
Canada?  Quebec is *not* Canada; neither is Canada; Quebec... yet.
Therefore, how can Caron be a resident of *both*, since each is a 
sovereign state, under the constitution?

Noah


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Subject: Back To Canadian Income Taxes
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Now that the fur and feathers have more or less stopped flying, and the
wasps (Not White Anglo-Saxon Protestants) have settled down a bit from
their fury over Wile E. Coyote's sniffing around their cozy nest, we
can get back to the primary issue of this discussion group.

The question is:  Why are Canadians taxed into poverty and destitution;
and, subject to Al Capone thug tactics by tax collectors (whether they
are collecting income tax or writing unlawful traffic tickets)?
And, that, in possibly the richest country per capita on the face of
the planet Earth? Why are we subject to having to use "usury fiat and
counterfeit money" when we are in a nation which supposedly has a
Federal Government with the full right, duty and authority to create
"real" money (historically, not inflationary). Why has our Government
given away that money creation right, a right not theirs to give away,
to Foreign Bankers. Why are Canadians being denied decent social and
healthcare programs so that this false debt can be paid?
Why did the Impostor Government of Canada, without right, sell the
voting shares of the Bank of Canada to foreign bankers?  If you can
give defensive answers to these questions , please do.

Otherwise, Wake Up! Folks.  I have put two and two together, and came
up with a startling discovery (to most Canadians). That discovery was
that this apparently IMPOSTOR Canadian Government (also a startling
discovery) has used legal trickery and fraud in their entrapment of
Canadians into being subject to the Income Tax Act of Canada.

A simple understanding of contract law was the key to figuring it out.

A contract must have certain required parts - the offer (and offerer),
the acceptance (and acceptor) and the consideration (money or trade
item which must be of an agreed to equal value). Features of a contract
are: The contract must be voluntary entered into by offerer and
acceptor, the terms of the contract must be fully revealed, and the
trade must be equitable by voluntary agreement. Contract is part of the
property right in the right to sell property.  Outside interference
cannot enter into or affect a lawful contract.

The Crown of Britain greatly abused contracts in the early imposition
of Roman Law upon the People of England during the Medieval and Middle
Ages period. Henry VIII and Charles I were the two most prominent
abusers. When Charles II was brought back to England, several
restrictions were put upon the Monarchy of England, among which was a
severe restriction on assumpsit (assumed) contracts - Statute of Frauds
1677.

The Canadian Income Tax Act is applicable ONLY to a legal entity called
a "taxpayer" as defined in the first Income Tax Act in 1917.  A natural
person ONLY gets to be a legal entity by contract. The method of
entraping Canadians into such a contract is totally fraudulent. The
fraud covers ALL aspects of this contract. ALL fraudulent contracts can
be voided by the injured party, if it is done in a timely manner upon
discovery of the fraud.

That is the basis of my "Free for the asking" detax program.
To find out more, go to my webpage at: http://www.detaxcanada.org
or: http://www.untaxman.com  or: http//www.taxtamer.com
or: http://members.tripod.com/ncstech/tax.html
Other sites are coming onboard soon.

Why are Canada's lawyers and judges not telling you this? It is simple
contract law they should have learned the first week in law school.
Guess, you'll have to ask them.

Eldon Warman
Detax Author and Consultant


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Subject: Re: Eldon Warman's An Idiot
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Can't resist the diversionary tactic of invective, bluster and name
calling can you David?

Strange how that comes blaring out when confronted with irrefutable
evidence that you have been lying through both ends of your body - and,
of your Traitorous acts in keeping Canadian subject to the Communistic
income tax.

Third plank of the Jew, Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto:
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

Eldon Warman
Detax Author and Consultant
  AKA: Wile E. Coyote



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John,
That hasn't been the response I have been receiving.

OTOH, I have been showing the world, via the Internet, what kind of
"mad" wasps (not White Anglo-Saxon Prostentants) they are dealing with
in this attempted coverup of the Zionist Conspiracy (that supposedly
doesn't exist) in these "Apologists For Jews", who have been showing up
on this discussion group like a bunch of squawking seagulls after fish
guts.

Notice how these "cover-up" artists have attempted to do their dirty
deed in the Jew, Janet Reno's slaughter of some 80+ innocent people at
Waco, apparently because they were Christians. And, how about the
bombing of the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City? Positive proof there
that the Mossad most likely had a hand in that, as in the JFKjr
assination, as in the JFK assination, as in the Waco massacre, as in
Ms. Albright's (a Hungarian Jew) Kosovo massacre, as in the Berundi and
Rouanda genocide, as in the Pan Am bombing, as in, as in.

Silly to blame them for everything?  Maybe Yes?  Maybe No?

Eldon Warman




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Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:
> Which "International bankers," Mr. Warman? Name them, and provide
> the documents which substantiate your claim.

Go back to #18 in this discussion, and READ.

Eldon Warman


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From egwarmanNOegSPAM@hotmail.com.invalid Mon Oct 25 15:32:45 EDT 1999
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David M. Sherman wrote:
> >Eldon Warman wrote:
> > Strange how that comes blaring out when confronted with
> > irrefutable evidence that you have been lying through both
> > ends of your body
> [...]
> Irrefutable evidence? The Khazars nonsense is dealt with handily at
> . One
> wonders what drives anti-Semites such as Warman to have such hate
> that they couldn't care less whether anything they state is actually
> true.

Comment: David,

Are you telling me, and the readers of this debate group, that these
publications are all anti-semitic, anti-Jewish, and liars?

Encyclopedia Americana, Encyclopedia Britannica (15th edition,
Academic American Encyclopedia (1985), Encyclopedia Americana (1985),
The Jewish Encyclopedia, The Encyclopedia Judaica (1972), the Bible,
The  The American People's Encyclopedia (1954), the Academic American
Encyclopedia Deluxe Library Edition, The New Encyclopedia Britannica,
Collier's Encyclopedia, New Catholic Encyclopedia, The Cadillac Modern
Encyclopedia, The Jewish Encyclopedia (1925).

COME ON!  David. You'll have to do better than that!

Eldon Warman
Detax Author and Consultant



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So what if it is not of the construction that your spouse was/is
familiar with; big deal. The fact is that the author was present at the
incident and wishes the injustice reported. My purpose for posting it,
is to get the pulse of the ng on the subject matter, *not* the format.

Noah


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(Doug Bissett) wrote:

> As much as I hate to get involved with this rant, I must point out
> that the government of Canada, is NOT an imposter.

Comment:  I beg to differ.  I have positive proof that I can send you
showing that the Parliament of Canada never had the authority to usurp
power as the Government of Canada.  From 1967 to 1931, the parliament
of Canada was an organization under the British Board of Trade and
under the direct control of the emminent domain in Canada, the
corporation sole known as the Governor General. Parliament was never
incorporated as an entity apart and separate from the fiction called
the Governor General. It still is not a person.  That is why all
lawsuits from the Government originate in the Queen - who herself is an
IMPOSTOR monarch in Canada. Section #2(1) of the Statute of Westminster
relieved the Monarch of Great Britain of ALL sovereign authority over
Canada.

> They are in power, because the citizen's of Canada chose to elect
> them to run the country for them.

Comment: WRONG! NO CANADIAN CITIZEN has voted for Parliament, or a
Provincial Legislature since 1931. Remember, (of course you wouldn't)
voting registration came into being in 1932. Voter registration is in
fact "joining the club". Just as do people who wish to vote for the
national officers of the Kiwinis Club have to be members, so do people
who wish to vote for the club (remember, it is not a lawful
incorporated body politic) called Parliament.

> Unfortunately, the MAJORITY of citizen's of Canada seem
> to have no idea about what kind of havoc the government is creating,
> and they continue to elect idiots who seem to think that huge debts,
> and unfunded liabilities, are not a problem, and that "they"
> can "fix" all of the countries woes by spending more money.
 Comment: The People of Wetaskiwin vs Milton Littlechild MP in 1991 was
positive proof that the People have absolutely no say as to what MP's
do after they are elected. As a fictional fiction, they are untouchable
by those who elect them. You elect a crew to man a ship. Once the ship
sets sail, the voters have absolutely no more control over those
crewmembers until the crew gets back on land. (next election).

> As the old chinese proverb says: "Be careful about what you ask
> for, you might just get it". The people of Canada asked for, and got,
> the government that they elected. The electorate, also seems to think
> that the government is doing the right thing, and they keep on
> electing the same one.

Comment: The Club of Parliament's owners (Privy Council - all connected
to the Rothchild Empire) select all candidates that matter. So, the
choises are between Eeny, Meany, Miney or Moe.  Same bullshit,
different pile!

Eldon Warman
Detax Author and Consultant



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David S. Maddison,

How do you explain these bigots?

Copied and verifiable from this webpage:
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/clilist.htm

What George Washington, Benjamin Franklin and Peter Styvesant said
about the Jews

George Washington (in Maxims of George Washington
by A. A. Appleton & Co.)

They (the Jews) work more effectively against us, than the enemy's
armies. They are a hundred times more dangerous to our liberties and
the great cause we are engaged in . . . It is much to be lamented that 
each state, long ago, has not hunted them down as pest to society and
the greatest enemies we have to the happiness of America
George Washington

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Yeah!  Mr. Taxman,  You know how it is.....

TO SOON OLD! TO LATE SMART!

Eldon Warman

Mr Taxman wrote:
> This guys troll'in you David and everyone else and you are all
> biting the hook.  Please stop and perhaps our troll friend will leave,
> I never thought I would see a can.taxes post crossposted to
> soc.religion.jewish
> Thx,
> Taxman
> David M. Sherman  wrote in message
> news:3813F791.59ECC5AE@davidsherman.ca...



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In article <3814c673.600949@24.9.0.17>, ricjones@cgocable.net (Rick
Jones) wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 13:57:14 -0700, Noah
>  wrote:
> >So what if it is not of the construction that your spouse was/is
> >familiar with; big deal. The fact is that the author was present
> at the
> >incident and wishes the injustice reported. My purpose for
> posting it,
> >is to get the pulse of the ng on the subject matter, *not* the
> format.
> Can you provide any supporting evidence to prove your story was
> true,
> or did you just make it all up?

Huhhhh?  It's not *my* story.  Read *my* introduction in the post.



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R.Macdonald wrote:

> If you want to blame the Income Tax on anyone, blame it on William
> Pitt "The Younger" who pushed the tax through Parliament during the
> Napoleonic Wars (circa 1800) two to three generations BEFORE Karl
> Marx borrowed the idea.

Comment: I'm sure Pitt's income tax wasn't designed as part of a total
scheme to convert human beings into oppressively controlled slaves as
was/is the Communist Manifesto.

The "usury money system" isn't original with the Jews either. The
Babylonians, the Persians and the Spartans were pretty adept at the
scheme; however, the Jews have brought the evil scheme into the modern
age, and with a great vengance.

Eldon Warman
AKA:  Wile E. Coyote



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(Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
> ....which reminds me, Mr. Warman. Who are the "Mad Dogs" you
> referred to earlier?

Comment;  There's lots.  How about some of these in the Clinton
Administration, especially Janet Reno (Of Waco fame)and Madeleine
Albright (of Losovo fame) - and William Cohen, who has just appointed
the first continental military commander in the USA since the Civil War:

The following list of Jews represent the Clinton adminstration:
(1/4/1998)

Madeleine Albright
Secretary of State
Robert Rubin
Secretary of Treasury
William Cohen
Secretary of Defense
Janet Reno
Attorney General
Dan Glickman
Secretary of Agriculture
George Tenet
CIA Chief
Samuel Berger
Head National Security Council
Evelyn Lieberman
Deputy Chief of Staff
Stuart Eizenstat
Under Secretary of State
Charlene Barshefsky
U.S. Trade Representative
Susan Thomases
Aide to First Lady
Joel Klein
Assistant Attorney General
Gene Sperling
National Economic Council
Ira Magaziner
National Health Care
Peter Tarnoff
Deputy Secretary of State
Alice Rivlin
Ecomomic Advisory
Janet Yellen
Chairwoman, National Economic Council
Rahm Emanuel
Policy Advisor
Doug Sosnik
Counsel to President
Jim Steinberg
Deputy to National Security Chief
Jay Footlik
Special Liason to the Jewish Community
(no other group has a special liason)
Robert Nash
Personal Chief
Jane Sherburne
President's Lawyer
Mark Penn
Asia Expert to NEC
Sandy Kristoff
Health Care Chief
Robert Boorstin
Communications Aide
Keith Boykin
Communications Aide
Jeff Eller
Special Assistant to Clinton
Tom Epstein
Health Care Adviser
Judith Feder
National Security Council
Richard Feinberg
Assistant Secretary Veterans
Hershel Gober
Food and Drug Administration
Steve Kessler
White House Counsel
Ron Klein
Assistant Secretary Education
Madeleine Kunin
Communications Aide
David Kusnet
Dept. AIDS Program
Margaret Hamburg
Dir. Press Conferences
Many Grunwald
Liason to Jewish Leaders
Karen Adler
Dir. State Dept. Policy
Samuel Lewis
National Security Council
Stanley Ross
National Security Council
Dan Schifter
Director Peace Corps.
Eli Segal
Deputy Chief of Staff
Alan Greenspan
Chairman of Federal Reserve Bank
Robert Weiner
Drug Policy Coordinator
Jack Lew
Deputy Director Management and Budget
James P. Rubin
Under Secretary of State
David Lipton
Under Secretary of The Treasury
Lanny P. Breuer
Special Counsel to The President
Richard Holbrooke
Special Representative to NATO
Kenneth Apfel
Chief of Social Security
Joel Klein
Deputy Whlte Honse Counsel
Sidney Blumenthal
Speclal Advisor to Pirst Lady
David Kessler
Chief of Food & Drug Adininistration
Seth Waxman
Acting Solicitor General
Mark Penn
Presidential Pollster
Dennis Ross
Special Middle East Representative
Howard Shapiro
- General Counsel for the FBI
Lanny Davis
White House Special Counsel
Sally Katzen
Secretary of Management and Budget
Kathleen Koch
Heads FBI Equal Opportunity Office
John Podesta
Deputy Chief of Staff
Alan Blinder
Vice Chairman of Federal Reserve
Janet Yellen
Heads Council of Economlc Advisors
Ron Klain
Chief of Staff for Al Gore

The Jewish U.S. Ambassadors 22/04/98

The Jewish US. Ambassadors mentioned here have been chosen not because
of their ethnic origin, but because of their political ideology and
POLITICAL position regarding the Palestine question, as POLITICAL
actors.

They are mentioned not because they are Jews, but they are mentioned
because we believe that the Jewish lobby in the US has created a
dangerous concentration of power which we believe is troublesome to the
democracy of that country and dangerous for the peace in the Middle
East. It is a political analysis which has been made by many observers,
including Israeli newspapers.

Just the fact that the Jews don't agree with our political views should
not allow them to deprive us of our human right of freedom of speech.
The tragic reality is this: freedom of speech is now almost
non-existent in many European countries. We hope that censorship will
not prevail over the content of any homepages.

The situation in the Middle East that is much inflamed - the parties
concerned in the debate and the conflict only reflect the real
polarization. To Palestinians and Muslims the Zionists appear to be the
Nazis of today as they were fifty years ago in Germany. To the victims
of Zionism this ideology is not experienced as something positive, but
as a symbol of evil.

This Jewish concentration of power in USA gives world Jewry tremendous
influence to promote their "special agenda". Never before in American
history have so many Jews been appointed as US Ambassadors. They are
all members of powerful Jewish organizations.

These are hardened supporters of Israel and the "Jewish race". It is
impossible for them to put the interests of America ahead of their
Zionist state. None of following would hold these ambassadorships
unless they were members of the ruling Jewish elite. Here is their
listing which you will never see in the daily press.

Some Jewish U.S. Ambassadors:

Germany:
Ambassador John C. Kornblum

France:
Ambassador Felix Rohatyn

Poland:
Ambassador Daniel Fried

Denmark:
Ambassador Edward E. Elson

Hungary:
Ambassador Donald M. Blinken

Romania:
Ambassador Alfred H. Moses

Belgium:
Ambassador Alan J. Blinken

Belarus:
Ambassador Kenneth S. Yalowitz

South Africa:
Ambassador James A. Joseph

India:
Ambassador Frank G. Wisner

Turkey:
Ambassador Marc Grossman
New Zealand:
Ambassador Josiah H. Beeman

Egypt:
Ambassador Daniel C. Kurtzer
Egypt is the recipient of the second largest amount of US foreign aid.
This is to "buy off" Israel's southern front. Any hostility toward
Israel would end the aid.)

Sweden:
Ambassador Thomas L. Siebert

Morocco:
Ambassador Marc C. Ginsberg

Singapore:
Ambassador Timothy A. Chorba

Zambia:
Ambassador Arlene Render

Brazil:
Ambassador Melvyn Levitsky

Bolivia:
Ambassador Curt W. Kamman

Mexico:
Ambassador Jeffrey Davidow

Canada:
Ambassador Gordon Giffin

Cuba:
US Interest Head, Michael G. Kozak

Norway:
Ambassador David B. Hermelin

Switzerland:
Ambassador Madeleine M. Kunin


Eldon Warman
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Mimi Weasel wrote:
> > http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Cyprus/8815
> Which is brilliant! Great page, the most comprehensive answer to
> the lies spread by the NeoNetNazis.

Mimi,
I checked out that page you find so comforting. I cannot find any more
authentication for what is written there than I can on any other
webpage on the subject that is pro Jews. For instance, lets take the
narratives on the Protocols.

I read the Protocols, and it reads like todays newspaper - the United
Nations, the IMF, the disarming of the people, the microchip implants,
the pronography, the degradation of medicine, the degradation of
governments, the usury money system, and on, and on. Prevalent in the
degradation of morality - the motion picture industry - total smut and
degrading propaganda - totally dominated by Jews. The American war
adventures over the last 90 years - instigated by Jews, the degradation
of the school system - done by jews. The justice system here, and in
the United States - a vile mockery and total fraud - and run by Jews
and Masons.

One with the slimest of comprehension can see through the whole scheme.
The Protocols are NOW - and Jews are very visible pushing every button
to implement the plans contained in that document. Deny and bluster as
you will. What is, is. Diversionary propaganda be damned, the Protocols
are today's Jew Bankers and their lackeys. Any thinking man cannot read
it as otherwise. If it was a forgery by some Russian Secret Service
agent, he had to have been given the gift of prophesy to see into the
future.

Also, none of the defenses of the Talmud have any "meat". the words
used are only poo-pooing diversions. That does not refute the scholarly
work that has uncovered the smut and hate in that set of supposedly
religious literature.  It seems strange that the Jew defenders and
apologists retreat back to the Pentatuch/Torah when their backs are to
the wall. If they would only stay there, then maybe the Jews could take
their place in this World as real human beings; but, turn your back,
and they are back in the whore house of the Talmud again subjecting the
real people of this country and world with their genocidal usury money
greed and racketeering.

And, who were the big cheeses of the American Mafia:
Bugsy Siegel - Creator modern day Las Vegas
Dutch Schultz - Underworld figure
Hymie Weiss - Al Capone's arch enemy
Jack Ruby - The person who murdered Lee Harvey Oswald
John Gotti Jr. - Technically a Jew as his mother is Jewish.
Lepke Buchalter - New York gangster
Meyer Lansky - Mob Boss
All Italians who changed their names to Jewish names?

Wile E. Coyote



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"David S. Maddison" wrote:
> I wholeheartedly agree with Mr Sherman that this group should
> return to its "scheduled programming" of discussing the joys of
Canadian taxes.

> Unfortunately, it is the technique of people like Mr Warman to
> spread their hatred and lies across thousands of newsgroups which
> have no relation to the hate message he wishes to spread.

Comment: I believe it was the elitist and arrogant Mr. Sherman who
started the descent into Jew exposure with his learned expression:
"Hogwash". I came on this debate group to expose the crap being spread
by the income tax defenders and proponents. As soon as the coverup of
the vile scheme of this Canadian Income Tax started unraveling, the
real instigators of the communistic income tax came buzzing out like
mad hornets.

All barriers of sleize and hate came crashing down to get at Eldon
Warman, to try and stop him from giving Canadians the means to become
free from these usury banker's hold over them through the income tax
and the thugs who administer it.  Notice the discussion headlines. Is
there one discussion group heading with a derogatory phrase that has
Eldon Warman as author? However, are there not several there that shows
the evil intent of the author against Eldon Warman?

Sorry fellas. Your scheme is not working. E-mail requests for my detax
program are increasing every day.  The snowball is rolling down the
mountainside, and growing ever so rapidly. Better get out of the way!

Eldon Warman
Detax Author and Consultant
http://www.detaxcanada.org




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Truth is, I cannot not lay claim to the "story", As I have told you,
the "release" is not mine. In the interest of privacy, I purposefully
left-off the contact party. What I find very intriguing is that the
*story* has not hit the media. Guess the author was right. Perhaps
someone could go to the courthouse and review the transcript tape for
the session. Then we'd know who's telling the truth. As I do not live
in Alberta, it is not likely to be me.  BTW, the author is David
Lindsay. There there, now; no need for any of you to exercise hare-kari
any longer. ;-)

Noah



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In an earlier post, Eldon Warman alluded to the "phony money" concept;
the fiat currency thing. As we all know, the Constitution says the
federal government can "raise Money by any Mode or System of Taxation."
(subject 3, section 91, BNA Act, 1867 and Canada Act, 1982) We also are
aware that the provinces can impose Direct Taxation within a province
to raise a Revenue for Provincial Purposes. As a result, it has been
suggested that federal and provincial taxing powers may lawfully
overlap. I find this *overlapping* convention, a bit hard to swallow;
since the federal government can raise Money/money by *both* direct and
indirect taxes. Be that as it may: from what I understand, the
Supreme Court of Canada has never made a decision about the
constitutionality of the Income Tax Act. In fact, a 1967 Alberta Court
of Appeals decision, I believe, concerning the Breckenridge Speedway
Ltd is often cited. This case dealt moreso with the issue of whether
the federal government and a provincial government "can raise money"
through collection of "a substitute for money", than it did with the
issue of the constitutionality of a Federal Tax on Income. However, the
case allows us to look into this idea of the government raising revenue
through the collection of a *substitute for money*.  What does the term
"a substitute for money" import? In this case, the reference was made
to the "Pay to the order of" concept. In other words, bank issued
credit.

Is it not, in fact, true that regardless of which government (federal
or provincial) is raising, such raising can only be accomplished
without offending the *act* governing the monetary unit of Canada:  the
Currency Act?  I humbly suggest this is so. Now, when you study the
Bills of Exchange Act and look for the word Money, it is nowhere to be
found. Yes, we will find the word "money"; but, is it the same "Money"
as defined in the BNA Act?  Maybe yes, maybe no. I'm inclined to think
no. Regardless, unless you are paying with good 'ol Coins-of-the-Realm,
you are *not* paying with your money; therefore, you may be paying the
debt due Her Majesty, but you are not discharging the debt. (call the
Bills of Exchange Act office and ask an *officer* there, if any $10,
$20, $50, or even $100 Bank of Canada Notes can discharge debt, as I
have. Some of you may be very shocked at the truth)  So, if these CBNs,
as they are called, cannot lawfully discharge debt (or liability), then
what is the lawful means to force the payment of debt by a substitute
for money, I would like to know?

Further, unless someone cares to offer a sound-basis challenge,
according to Acts of Parliament, the federal government and provincial
government "can raise money" only as compelled by the Currency Act. 
Assuming this be true, then for this very reason, alone, the Income Tax
Act *must* be Ab Initio, as it violates a basic premise of law:
compelling the citizen to do the impossible.

What's the impossible?  Momentarily.... Where does it say, in the
constitution, that the citizens of Canada must perform the impossible,
even it means that the citizen's performance is forced through the
enacting of a piece of legislation, such as an Act of Parliament? 
True, Parliament makes the laws, but where does it say that the
citizens of Canada must abide by laws that force the citizen to do that
which is impossible?  Show me, I'm all eyes.  What's the impossible? 
How's this:  Let's just take one year... for example... the year 1998, 
Although a reported 163 Billion was raised - a record in fact - in
Revenues, in 1998, only about 30 Billion was in the form of Notes and
Coins.  Now, unless Canada's total debt has been reduced to less than
30 Billion, without my knowledge, then how is the Minister of Finance
supposed to be able to pay debts with such little so-called "money" in
circulation, eh? And another thing; if any legal tender paid-over for
taxation collection cannot, legally, discharge debt or liability, then
praytell how can those who refuse to pay, be held, lawfully, in
contempt of a payment demand that has no lawful basis to start with? 
Neat trick, this "liable to pay" thing?  You betcha! The problem is
that the trick doesn't work; except in the eyes of those who *choose*
to believe in the magician.  I, for one, choose not to be *that*
gullible, and will not do so, until someone can show me the evidence
which supports that it is no illusion. In other words, the Money
definition, as set forth in the BNA Act, 1867 is the exact same
definition that the Acts of Parliament have maintained to the year
1999. I'll bet a dollar-to-a-doughnut, it is not.

The question is, then, why pay if the liability is *not* discharged by
doing so?  Because some politician put forth a "bill", way back before
most of us were uneducated, that makes it a legal requirement to do so?
Balderdash! The protection afforded to the people, by the Constitution,
was never designed for the law makers, but for those Canadians that
wanted to be the law keepers, IMHO.

Noah


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rmacdonaldwrote:
> Your comments alluded that the Income Tax was something new and
> original when it was already well established in the West.
> Most of the rest of Marx was just a rewrite of some of the more
> extreme egalitarians of the French Revolution, again little original
> content.

Comment:  No! I don't claim that there is anything new under the sun.
The usury money system, and taxation to take that money back out of
circulation is likely as old as ancient Egypt. What I do claim is that
the Planks of the Communist Manifesto, which includes income tax, is
the steps to total enslavement of human populations - the Communist
system.  This was formulated by the Zionists and their lackey, Karl
Marx.

An interesting webpage (Yes!  I know!  Lies! Lies!) is:
http://www.jewwatch.com/index.html

Eldon Warman
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"David M. Sherman" wrote:

> I found interesting the line: "He was arrested for obstruction
> of justice. Wishewan showed up at the scene and informed Lindsay he
> was his legal counsel." Since it appears that Wishewan is not in fact
> a lawyer (he's not in the Canadian Law List, and his actions as
> reported certainly suggest that he's not!), I would imagine that's
> an offence under the Alberta Law Society Act, or whatever the
> equivalent statute is.

Comment:  Sorry David. The law society act only applies to "dead"
persons or fictions. The Common Law forbids a "fiction" or "dead"
person  from exposing or expositing on the law. The law is for truth
and living human beings. ALL lawyers are operating in the "Fiction" -
and most obviously are "Brain dead".

Mr. Wishewan is a sovereign natural human being LIVING in Alberta. He
has absolute right to DO law - he doesn't have to "practise".

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my bs eliminator reports very low activity from daniel the
imbecile.
Notwithstanding the fact that it is educational to learn
there is
sick people out there, I am pleased to report that eldon the
idiot
has been included in my bs eliminator program list.
I suggest
others do same. hopefully he will go away and pester other,
more
appropriate newsgroups.


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Folks, Have you noticed how McVay, and the other Jew protector
apologists and revisionists have come out like mad hornets, not only
against what has been said about Jews; but what is said about ANY of
the agenda the Zionists are/or have instituted - from the usury banking
to the takeover of our justice system, to the unlawful supposed tax
called the "Income Tax"?

I had no need to feel any animosity to those who followed the teachings
of the Talmud prior to 1984, when, the Rothchild GOONS, the Internal
Revenue Service, MURDERED my lovely wife, the mother of my children;
and, deprived me of my career as an airline pilot, and caused the loss
of my estate and pension. Living here in Calgary, I have crossed paths
with many German, Hungarian, Croatian, and other Europeans that were in
Europe prior to, and during WW2. They ALL express the feelings that
Adolf failed miserably, relative to what Ben Franklin said in
Philadelthia over 200 years ago:

Benjamin Franklin
(This prophecy, by Benjamin Franklin, was made in a "CHIT CHAT AROUND
THE TABLE DURING INTERMISSION," at the Philadelphia Constitutional
Convention of 1787. This statement was recorded in the dairy of Charles
Cotesworth Pinckney, a delegate from South Carolina.)

Quote:
  "I fully agree with General Washington, that we must protect this
young nation from an insidious influence and impenetration. The menace,
gentlemen, is the Jews.
  In whatever country Jews have settled in any great number, they have
lowered its moral tone; depreciated its commercial integrity; have
segregated themselves and have not been assimilated; have sneered at
and tried to undermine the Christian religion upon which that nation is
founded, by objecting to its restrictions; have built up a state within
the state; and when opposed have tried to strangle that country to
death financially, as in the case of Spain and Portugal.
  For over 1,700 years, the Jews have been bewailing their sad fate in
that they have been exiled from their homeland, as they call Palestine.
But gentlemen, did the world give it to them in fee simple, they would
at once find some reason for not returning. Why? Because they are
vampires, and vampires do not live on vampires. They cannot live only
among themselves. They must subsist on Christians and other people not
of their race.
  If you do not exclude them from these United States, in their
Constitution, in less than 200 years they will have swarmed here in
such great numbers that they will dominate and devour the land and
change our form of government, for which we Americans have shed our
blood, given our lives our substance and jeopardized our liberty.
  If you do not exclude them, in less than 200 years our descendants
will be working in the fields to furnish them substance, while they
will be in the counting houses rubbing their hands. I warn you,
gentlemen, if you do not exclude Jews for all time, your children will
curse you in your graves.
  Jews, gentlemen, are Asiatics, let them be born where they will nor
how many generations they are away from Asia, they will never be
otherwise. Their ideas do not conform to an American's, and will not
even thou they live among us ten generations. A leopard cannot change
its spots. Jews are Asiatics, are a menace to this country if permitted
entrance, and should be excluded by this Constitutional Convention."
Unquote

Eldon Warman
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(John Clarke) wrote:
> I just love a few good crackpots.  Makes the world such a happy
> place...
> John
> p.s. loved the bit about the guys drivers license being suspended
> and them towing the car away...and the final line "denied the
> incident was planned"
> p.p.s. I love the claim at the start of this thread "this won't
> appear in the media because of a widespread conspiracy".
> Nothing better than kooks who think they aren't kooks

Comment: The words of a jerk who apparently enjoys being a slave and
bum boy!

All patriots of the past have been dubbed "crackpots" by the abject
cowards in society - until, they achieved success.  Then like a leech,
they change their loyalties and insert their brown noses into the asses
of those people who had the guts to get out and fight for that which is
right and true.

What are the rights Mr. Wishewan, Dave Lindsay, and the others who were
in St. Albert last Friday believe in?
An Appeal Court Judge in British Columbia (Justice Irving), in a case
in 1909 stated in his findings:
Among the normal rights which are available to every British subject
against all the world are : (1) personal safety and freedom; (2) one's
good name; (3) the  enjoyment of  the advantages ordinarily open to all
the inhabitants of the country, e.g., the unmolested pursuit of one's
trade or occupation and free use of the highways; (4) freedom from
malicious vexation by legal process; and (5) to one's own property.
	Where a restraint is sought to be put upon any person in respect of
the exercise of any of those natural rights, I think it is the duty of
the Court to assume that the legislature did not intend to interfere
with them, unless clear and unequivocal words have been used.

Ok! Jerk!  What part of that statement strikes you as being a "joke".

Eldon Warman
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(Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
> It is refreshing to know that Mr. Warman does not resort to, er,
> name-calling - something of which he has lately complained...
> Who are the "mad wasps," Mr. Warman?

Comment:  For those who know how to use and understand the English
language, "mad wasps" is an allegorical reference, not a "fiction" name
given for the derogatory purpose of impuning a person's character, as
you, Fred, Mr. Taxman, Fred, Mimi and some of the other Jew historical
revisionists have resorted to when addressing me, and my discussion
material.

> What is this "Zionist conspiracy" which you mention, and why should
> anyone "apologize" for Jews, given your total failure thus far to
> document any of your somewhat rabid claims?

Comment:  Why would someone need to give proof that the Sun or Moon
shines; when, all the doubter has to do is go outside and look up!

> Who are the "mad dogs," Mr. Warman, and where is the proof that
> Canadians are all in debt to incorrectly spelled banks?

Comment: Seems that you are showing a lot of froth around your muzzle.
Or, is it your attempted muzzle? Relative to your silly statement about
the banks and spelling, read the previous comment again.

> You were going to provide it, weren't you, Mr. Warman?
> Weren't you?

Comment:  This is a discussion dialogue, Mr. Mcvay. If you are
uneducated relative to the topics discussed, I suggest you spend some
time on the 'net using your favorite search engine. When you are up to
speed, come back to see us!

Eldon Warman
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"David S. Maddison" wrote:
> Koestler's work has been discredited.

Comment:  OH?  BY WHOM?

> Why exactly would "Cohens and Kantors" need to have been brought
> in for the conversion?

Comment:  I understand the "The reader of Scripture"  and the "Singer
of Psams" goes along with the Synagogue rituals, does it not?

> Of course, you don't cite peer-reviewed literature, you cite an
> infamous anti-Semitic web site as your source. Why doesn't that
> surprise me?

Comment: Are you positive it's anti-semitic? Christians, who understand
the setting of the Jesuonian story have no reason to be dogmatically
anti-Jewish. Most of the early converts to Paul's and Peter's
Christianity, including Paul (Peter was a Galilean) were Judeans
(formerly of the Jewish religion). I find these people in the position
of identifying their present surroundings, rather than playing out
historical hatreds from dogmatic teachings. If you tag any criticism of
Jew as being under the blanket of "anti-semitism"; and using that
phrase as a statement of general hate toward Jews, then you are just
identifying yourself as being either a Jew with a very guilty
conscience; or, an ignorant liberal who has gained no education beyond
that which he has gained by watching Tampax commercials and Monday
night football.  How can "anti-semitic" be used to identify the current
people who follow the so-called Jewish religion - Babylonian Talmudism.
They are no more "semitic" than is my cat.

The word "Jew" didn't come into usage until the early 1700's. No
document written before that date uses the word. The term used prior to
that was the Latin "Iudean" and anglicized to "Judean". The Khazar
converts (Ashkenizm) couldn't use the word "Judean' to describe
themselves, so they had to invent one. The Religion of the Judeans who
did not accept conversion to Christianity remained as Talmudism.

Yes, Mimi, I hear it coming. Lies!  Lies! Can't come up with any decent
refutation of what I have said; so, more hyper invective...

Eldon Warman
Wile E. Coyote


> And what, in any case are you trying to prove by saying that
> modern Jews
> descended from Khazars (which is not true in any case as the
> genetic
> evidence proves)?
> In Judaism, there is no distinction* made between converts and
> born Jews -
> it is even prohibited to identify someone as convert. (*The single
> exception is that converts cannot marry Kohanim, but divorced
> women can't
> either).
> Many similar anti-Semitic libels are dealt with at my web page
> http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Cyprus/8815
> Now back to your scheduled tax programming...
> David Maddison



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Mimi Weasel wrote:
> "David S. Maddison" wrote:
> > Many similar anti-Semitic libels are dealt with at my web page
> > http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Cyprus/8815
> Which is brilliant! Great page, the most comprehensive answer to
> the lies spread by the NeoNetNazis.
> Mimi Weasel

Comment: I'm glad you take so much solace in your fellow Jews'
deceptions. I'm sure that gives you much comfort and confidence that
the Zionist plans for the New World Order have been cloaked in
deceptions for another day.

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(Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
> But who were you referring to, Mr. Warman, when you said:
> "My statements on that aspect led to the "Mad Dogs" of the B'nai
> B'rith (Brotherhood of the Sons of Ai) being turned loose upon me."

> That didn't sound like an "allegorical reference," Mr. Warman, it
> sounded like a direct reference to someone you claimed was "turned
> loose on you."
> I want to know who you were referring to, and who you think "turned
> them loose on you?"

Comment:  I'm sure the readers of this discussion group understand that
I was clearly referring to "MEMBERS" of the B'nai B'rith (Brotherhood
of the Sons of (the ancient Edomite capitol of) Ai).  And, since the
Zionists call themselves "Edomites" in their Protocols of The
(supposedly) Learned Elders of Zion, I could understand why they would
act like "Mad Hornets" when their Satanic scheme is published here on
the Internet for all the world to see.

Exposure of VILE THUGS, and their evil plans is always "HATE"
literature to the THUGS.

Eldon Warman



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(John H. Loukidelis) wrote:
> OTOH, this whole sorry episode has served one purpose.  When Mr
> Warman first began posting, I was concerned that the ignorant might
> be misled into thinking that his "de-tax" program had any validity at
> law.

John,
What's your purpose in posting this.  You working for Revenue Canada,
or worse, the Rothchilds?  Or, are you just one of B'nai B'rith's "mad
hornets"?

My understanding of how the JEWS are screwing Canada (right or wrong)
has nothing to do with "Contract Law". It is a simple understanding and
utilization of contract law which can get Canadians completely out from
under the income tax burden. Contract law has been around since time
immemorial.  It is not out of my mind.
What kind of Jerk or Traitor are you?

Eldon Warman
Detax Author and Consultant
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(Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
some mis-spelled Jewish bank.

Comment:  So what if I have mis-spelled the name Rothchild? Its a
"STRAWMAN" name anyway, just like most of the names on this discussion
group. "Rothchild"  apparently means "Red Shield", the Zionist colour -
the same colour Lester Pearson chose for his Canadian beer can label.
The Original Jew who assumed the name was Amsel Mayer Bauer (Close in
spelling as I care to come), an Ashkenzi Jew living in Germany. His son
Nathan and descendants are the chief source of grief to the British
Empire and countries resulting from that empire.

Can't understand why you think I should be coming up with specific
names? What are you trying to set up here? Some way for your buddy
thugs to attempt to entrap me in your Zionist controlled justice system?

Eldon Warman
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"Paul A. Thomas" wrote:
> Karl Marx was a lackey for the Zionists???  When did that happen?

Comment:  Before you join a discussion group, you should get some
education on the subject.  I'm not on here to educate the uneducatable.

From: http://www.tales.ndirect.co.uk/KARL1.HTML

Carl Marx - with a capital 'C' was born in Trier in the German
Rhineland at 2 am on the 5th May 1818. His father Heinrich, was
descended from a long line of Rabbis and was well respected amongst the
Jewish community for his skill in the courtroom.

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Paul,

I've been applying for the Village Idiot job!  However, you Zionist Jew
defenders are obviously pulling strings to get all the jobs ahead of me.
Hey!  Give a poor Goy a chance!

Eldon Warman
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(Rick Jones) wrote:
> Oh, dear.  Microchip implants?  Better go home and put your tinfoil
> hat on.

Comment: Ok!  Rick Boy.  Check out this webpage:

Taken from another's e-mail message:
Go to the following URL and use the following instructions.  This will
take you to a US patent that will be sure to shake your foundation,
however stable you may think it is.

URL: http://www.patents.ibm.com/patquery

On the page that opens up, leave the "US" the way it is, but in the box
next to it, enter the patent number 5878155 and then click on "Search" 
The following page will show one patent with the patent number as a
clickable link.  Click on the patent number.  The next page will show
you a summary of the patent titled "Method for verifying human identity
during electronic sale transactions"  Near the top left corner of the
page you will see "View Images (7 pages)", click on this and this will
allow you to read the entire patent (full disclosure) and view all the
accompanying drawings.

For those of you who think this is a crock and aren't even going to
look at the patent, read this.  The patent is that of an invisible ink
tattoo on a human body.  The tattoo in question is that of a bar code
that is scanable.

Any more smart-ass comments, Ricky Boy?

Eldon Warman
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Hey!  Folks.

The Income Tax Pays for NOTHING - no services, no government pensions,
no government salaries, no social services, NOTHING. It is simply a
means to take money taken out of circulation for the purposes of
controlling the inflation of the Bankers' "usury fiat money system" - a
money system totally unlawful to our heritage in the Anglo-Saxon Common
Law; to the Christian heritage of those who originally established
Canada; and to Islamic law.

A simple understanding of contract law will lead you to understand how
you can get completely out from under the Income Tax burden.

Contracts MUST BE equitable, voluntary and all terms disclosed. All
major contracts MUST BE written and signed. The absence of any of these
aspects constitutes fraud. Fraudulent contracts are "voidable" by the
injured party.

The Income Tax Act of Canada is applicable ONLY to a "taxpayer". A
"taxpayer" is a legal entity, an artificial person, a fiction.
The ONLY way a natural person gets to be a "taxpayer" is by contract.
If any of the above aspects of a contract are absent from the supposed
contract that made you a "taxpayer", you, as the injured party, can
VOID it. If you are no longer a "taxpayer", you are NOT subject to
Revenue Canada, or to the Income Tax Act of Canada.

It is totally lawful to void a fraudulent contract. You can learn how
by going to my webpage at: http://www.detaxcanada.org
>From there you can personally contact me for a free download of my
complete detax program. My services are offered as a non-commercial
enterprise; however, gratuitities are graciously received.

Eldon Warman
Detax Author and Consultant


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For those of you who have your blindfold on, or, if you are Freemasons,
are "hoodwinked", how about this information:

Relative to Revelation (Bible) 13: 16-18
16. And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and
bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17. And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or
the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

The webpage: http://www.patents.ibm.com/details?&pn=US05878155__
tells us that the "Mark of the BERAST" is now with us.

Learn more about the BEAST
(Brussels-European-Automated-Systems-Transactions, code name "Beast" is
a giant computer which was built in Brussels to take care of all
European common markets and its associated members):
http://www.prolognet.qc.ca/clyde/beast.htm

For those of you too arrogant to even look at these webpages, here is
the patent narrative:

US5878155: Method for verifying human identity during electronic sale
transactions    Inventor(s): Heeter; Thomas W. , Houston, TX 77022
Issued/Filed Dates: March 2, 1999 / Sept. 5, 1996

Abstract: A method is presented for facilitating sales transactions by
electronic media. A bar code or a design is tattooed on an individual.
Before the sales transaction can be consummated, the tattoo is scanned
with a scanner. Characteristics about the scanned tattoo are compared
to characteristics about other tattoos stored on a computer database in
order to verify the identity of the buyer. Once verified, the seller
may be authorized to debit the buyer's electronic bank account in order
to consummate the transaction. The seller's electronic bank account may
be similarly updated.
********************************************************************
Next item:
United Nations endorses New Age Religion:

http://www.kryon.com
>From that webpage - Quote:
"Kryon at the United Nations? YES! Kryon was invited to present live
channelings in 1995, 1996, and 1998 for the Society of Enlightenment
and Transformation... a United Nations sanctioned group within the
structure of the UN charter."
Unquote

Gee Whiz! A One World Religion that the anti-semitic Frauds who wrote
the Protocols of The Learned Elders Of Zion chance to include in their
vile and slanderous diatribe against the God loving and compassionate
Zionist bankers and their associated stewarts of the human race's
welfare.

Eldon Warman
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Mimi,

You've depressed me so much by calling me all those names, and telling
me I am such a vile and evil person. And , now a "schizo"????

I'd commit suicide; however, we don't know where to start!

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(Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
> All of the members, Mr. Warman? Do you know how many members of
> B'nai B'rith there are (it isn't "B'nai B'rith") here in Canada, Mr.
> Warman, but then, as a reknowned expert on Jews and Judaism, you
> surely know that...)?
Comment: For a discussion group, close in spelling is quite adequate.
If you have a problem, get Remarq.com to add a spelling checker.
A couple or three of your ilk who come to mind would be David
Lethbridge of Salmon Arm, BC, Conrad Black, The Bronfmans. You
obviously know who they are more than I would. I can just "smell" the
foul stench of their activities - as do many, if not most other
Canadians.

> What evidence do you have that these tens of thousands of B'nai
> B'rith members - perhaps millions, worldwide - are all either insance
> or dogs? Who turned theses millions of insane canines loose on you,
> Mr. Warman?
Comment: I would suggest you watch the "Star Trek" series dealing with
the "BORG" and the "FERENGI" to get an allegorical perspective of how
the Zionist mindset obviously prevades right down to the lowest levels
of Judica and Freemasonry.

> Can you deal with this rationally, or will you continue to babble?
> (Were one to ask who _sounded_ like a "mad dog" in this newsgroup,
> Mr. Warman, I submit your name would top the list.)
Comment:  I'll accept the ephitet "Angry Dog".
"Mad Dog" and "Mad Hornets" I will leave to your ilk, Mr. McVay.
"Mad" means wildly and irrationally flailing, frantically erratic.
"Angry" means just plain "Pissed Off".

Eldon Warman
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From: Noah 
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Good observation, perhaps *that* is why the judge left the courtroom.
As I said before, I was not there. Just passing-on what was sent by
email to a friend of mine. Regardless, the point is that some Canadian
had the belief that he had the right to perform a Citizen's Arrest on
the judge and that Canadian *did not* end up being charged with
contempt of court; that is, unless the media were told *not* to print
the contempt of court charge either.

Noah


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I assure you, it does *not* come from me!  The fact that it has not
been reported in the media, does not surprise me. What does surprise
me, however, is that the media did not cover the contempt of court
charge that he must have surely received, if he was wrong for
performing the Citizen's Arrest on judge Maher.

Noah


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From garmecNOgaSPAM@my-deja.com.invalid Thu Oct 28 21:46:00 EDT 1999
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In article <7v5u09$f5o$1@news.auaracom.net>, "Paul McKeever"
 wrote:
> Noah wrote in message
> <11f733ec.b8be2620@usw-ex0102-011.remarq.com>...
> >...from what I understand, the
> >Supreme Court of Canada has never made a decision about the
> >constitutionality of the Income Tax Act.
> That's not true.  The case was Caron vs. the King.  However, at
> the time
> (1924ish), the Supreme Court of Canada was not our court of most
> superior
> jurisdiction:

Oh really?  So how did the SCC find in Caron?  Also, who appealed to
the Privy Council; Caron or the Crown and what was the appeal based
upon?

that was the Judicial Committee of the Privy
> Council.  And, in
> the
> Caron affair, the SCC's decision was, ultimately, appealed to the
> Privy
> Council,
> which entered the last decision in that matter.
> Regards,
> Paul McKeever



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From garmecNOgaSPAM@my-deja.com.invalid Thu Oct 28 21:46:01 EDT 1999
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Eldon, are you speaking of the natural person, as defined in statutes?
If so, then how can your program assist such a "person" who is already
defined in statute law. Perhaps you are speaking of the *flesh 'n'
blood Man or flesh 'n' blood Woman*, no?  If so, then what is the
lawful term for such nature?  Further, I have been trying to get
someone to tell me how a judge differentiates between the flesh 'n'
blood and the fiction; in other words, how does the judge know *who* is
before him. I appreciate the argument that it has do with the UPPER
case name, but I was curious to know if that was the *only* thing,
which supports the concept?

Noah


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Okay, I'll bite:  what does OBC stand for, after your name?


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In article <38175DFF.89E33588@oanet.com>, Dennis K
 wrote:
> Noah wrote:
> >
> > Regardless, the point is that some Canadian
> > had the belief that he had the right to perform a Citizen's
> Arrest on
> > the judge and that Canadian *did not* end up being charged with
> > contempt of court; that is, unless the media were told *not* to
> print
> > the contempt of court charge either.
> I'm not trying to start something here but would it be necessary
> for the
> guy to be charged with contempt of court??  I mean just because he
> spouts off and disrupts the proceedings, would he HAVE to be
> charged or
> would it be at the judges discretion?

No, the point is that the judge would have been able to charge him with
contempt of court, as he was under arrest. In fact, the judge *should*
not have even been able to walk out of the courtroom. But, the RCMP
officer was waiting for some sort of signal from the judge; which,
apparently, did not come.


> Dennis
> --
> If there is a "NOSPAM" in my e-mail address, remove it to reply



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From egwarmanNOegSPAM@hotmail.com.invalid Thu Oct 28 21:46:02 EDT 1999
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(Fred Grosby) wrote:
> Eldon has publicly acknowledged that he is an anti-Semitic bigot,
> and that he is proud to be so.

Sooo There! Mimi and Tony and others...

Fred says it's so!!   Must be so!

Eldon Warman
AKA: The Semitic "anti-semitic" bigot (according to Fred), who believes
that "non-semitic" Jews (specifically those of the Zionist bent) are
ruining the World with their usury practises and greed for power.


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In article <381617d7.6734776@news.calgary.telusplanet.net>,
fredg@his.com (Fred Grosby) wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 10:56:03 -0600, Dennis K
> 
> wrote:
> >I finally found the link for our newspaper. You can find the
> article
> >mentioned in this thread at http://www.bowesnet.com/spnews/  then
> click
> >on the "more news" button
> Thanks for providing us with a way to get a relatively factual
> account
> of the matter.

And, I especially thank you; for now those ng posters that tried to
create the impression that it was I who had made the whole damn thing
up can eat crow!

I've had occasion to look askance at newspaper
> accounts in the past, but under the corcumstances I prefer such an
> account to self-serving and obviously slanted "press releases"
> posted
> to this ng second hand and only then after alteration.

Ohmygawd Fred, you are so right. I, being given the email just three
days ago, should have been able to somehow wind-back time, so that it
was current with the Sherwood Park Community paper. Shame on me. But,
what I find even more fascinating is the utter stupor that most of the
ng members are in, when it comes to the issue of justice.  I posted the
release, and I'm certainly glad that I did; for, I had no idea that it
would bring out such a desire to *prove* me wrong. As a result, many
learned the reality that truth is very often stranger than fiction.
Regarless of the "slant", as you put it, the fact still remains the
incident did happen. And, contrary to what posters try to imply, the
incident was suppressed from the people; for, how many Canadians who,
having the right to know what happened on October 15, 1999, actually
*read* the Sherwood Park Community paper?  Was it in the Globe, the
National Post, on the CBC News, etc. With all due respect to the
Sherwood Park paper; *that's* what I meant by "media".

Noah

> ---
> Fred Grosby
> fredg@his.com  www.his.com/~fandl/fred.html
> --------------------------------------------
> If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean,
> there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.



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In article <7v4o2i$f1b$1@bcarh8ab.ca.nortel.com>, jclarke@nortel.ca
(John Clarke) wrote:
> In article <3815DD23.AEEF4A3D@oanet.com>,
> Dennis K   wrote:
> >I finally found the link for our newspaper. You can find the
> article
> >mentioned in this thread at http://www.bowesnet.com/spnews/  then
> click
> >on the "more news" button
> I just love a few good crackpots.  Makes the world such a happy
> place...
> John

> p.s. loved the bit about the guys drivers license being suspended
> and
> them towing the car away...and the final line "denied the incident
> was
> planned"
> p.p.s. I love the claim at the start of this thread "this won't
> appear
> in the media because of a widespread conspiracy".  Nothing better
> than
> kooks who think they aren't kooks

If you're going to quote me, then you'd better damn well do it
correctly. I said nothing of the sort.  Perhaps when speaking of
"kooks", you might be well advised to *not* be looking in a mirror at
the time. Funny thing about reflections, they speak only the truth.

Noah



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From: Eldon Warman 
Subject: Re: Are There No Worthy Opponents?
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David,
I did some more homework.  I concede that B'nai B'rith means "Sons of
the Covenant".

However, since YHVH's Covenant was with the Hebrews, not with just any
group of people holding to a religion built around the Babylonian
polluted Talmud (Usury, etc.). As I understand the Covenant (contract),
it was supposed to be a special benefit for the Hebrew People in
exchange for the Hebrew People to be "a light unto the world" regarding
the nature and purposes of the One True God. With the proliferation of
smut in the movies, in magazines, on the internet and elswhere by Jews.
The ruination of one country after another by the practises of usury
banking and fiat counterfeit money by Jewish bankers; the evils of
people like Janet Reno and Madeilene Albright, et al; And on, And on..

The theft and vile misuse of the benefits of the Covenant with YHVH by
an evil people, who have become so much dispised throughout the world,
speaks much louder than anything I could ever say, or wish to say.

Therefore, the interpretation of "B'nai B'rith" as "Brotherhood of the
Sons of Ai" seems to be much closer to the facts of current existence
as they are in this day and age.  Immanuel Valikovsky, in his book,
Ages in Chaos" tell of the mortal enemies of the Hebrews and the
Egyptians called Ammonites. The Ammonites and the Edomites are one and
the same people. Amman, Jordan is pretty close (if not actually, the
site of ancient Ai - the Edomite capitol.

Elldon Warman
The "anti-semitic" Semite. (According to Fred)


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From egwarmanNOegSPAM@hotmail.com.invalid Thu Oct 28 21:46:03 EDT 1999
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From: Eldon Warman 
Subject: Re: Idiotic  Discussions: "Christian" Identity
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Mr. McVay,

We're to accept everything that is written by Jewish apologists as
being the "TRVTH"?  What qualifies you as being the "All Knowing" one,
Mr. McVay? You have a proliferation of internet webpages; but, what is
your gauge to tell us what is "TRVTH" and what is "Bull Shit"?

What makes you think you can "pigeonhole" me as a "Christian Identity"
type, just because I have some (substantial) knowledge of the sleize in
our World that falls at the feet of Zionist Jews? I am neither a
Christian, nor, am I an "Identity" believer. I believe WHAT the
Galilean called Joshua ben Joseph taught to the World some two thousand
years ago - that all human beings are Sons of the Eternal Father, the
First Source and Center of All Existence - and, the substance of what
Melchizedek taught Abraham some two thousand years before Joshua's time.

However, Joshua also taught that the "law" was not complete in the
negative Golden Rule, (Not the golden riule the current People who call
themselves Jews live by:  "Them that have the gold rule"); but, that
the positive part was also essential - "Do unto others as you would
have them do unto you."  What have you done for anyone lately, Mr.
McVay?

Eldon Warman
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From egwarmanNOegSPAM@hotmail.com.invalid Thu Oct 28 21:46:04 EDT 1999
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From: Eldon Warman 
Subject: Re: Back To Canadian Income Taxes
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Can anyone tell me why this McVay jerk is adding his vile two cents
worth to this discussion topic?

Would it be that he is under the direction of his Zionist masters to
attempt to sidetrack and obfuscate information that would help
Canadians become sovereign natural person again -  Without the
Communistic shakles of the income tax?

That's the only thing I can imagine as to why this rabid dog is still
sniffing the tracks of Eldon Warman

Detax free:  http://www.detaxcanada.org


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From egwarmanNOegSPAM@hotmail.com.invalid Thu Oct 28 21:46:04 EDT 1999
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From: Eldon Warman 
Subject: Re: Citizen's Arrest on Alberta judge
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SilentKnight wrote:
> Highly interesting, but as many of the follow-up replies suggest,
> without tangible substantiation, it is difficult to determine the
> factual authenticity of it all.
> If I were you (and serious about establishing the validity of the
> story), I'd try everything to track down (via your "friend") the
> original source of the email.  If true, this is a potentially
> precedent-setting occurence that illustrates the power behind the
> rights of the private individual.
> If fictional - at least it was entertaining :)
> Silent Knight

Comment: First, It certainly would be comforting to see people on this
discussion group have the courage to be proud enough, and confident
enough to use their own names. I know Canada is 3/4 into being a
communist state; however, cowering behind "fictional" names only adds
fuel to the power brockers that their nefarious plans are succeeding.

Second:
Relative to the St.Albert incident. I personally know the four key
persons involved in this fiasco. The judge was attempting to railroad
Mr. Mains into his administrative court jurisdiction by unlawfully
exhorting a plea from him, without Mr. Mains having received proper
discovery material or having heard the charge against him - the summons
was for failure to file. Last Friday was something like the third time
this judge attempted to exhort the plea without due process. The
Supreme Court forbid such a long time ago.

Mr. Lindsay was speaking for Mr. Mains as an utter-barrister (a right
under Common Law). Apparently, when the judge started blustering and
saying "this is MY court", he was questioned about that by Mr. Lindsay.
Upon continuing, his bluster, Mr. Wishewan felt it was his duty as a
citizen to do a citizen's arrest of this judge for "constructive
treason". (For reasons unknown to me, the charge was changed to
Criminal Contempt of Court.) Since the formal court had not been
established without the subject defendant giving jurisdiction by
entering a plea, no grounds were available to the judge for declaring
contempt of court against Mr. Lindsay or Mr. Wishewan. Income Tax
charges are within contract adjudication.  Therefore both parties to
the contract must approve (acknowledge jurisdiction) before the judge
gains jurisdiction and convenes a lawful court.

The RCMP officer present  refused to accept an order to arrest the
judge, as is required. The RCMP officer threatened to stop Mr. Wishewan
if he attempted to place a hand on the judge (required procedure when
doing a citizen's arrest). Therefore, the RCMP officer obstructed
justice and committed a breach of trust of a public officer, both
criminal offenses. The judge bolted from the courtroom.

When Mr. Mains, Mr. Lindsay, Mr. Wishewan and some forty supporters
left the courthouse, several patrol cars had assembled outside with
many police surrounding the group. Among these was a Mr. Warwick who
supposedly had had his driver's license suspended because of unpaid
traffic tickets. He had never been informed of this. Mr. Warwick was
forced up on the median by a patrol car and hauled out of his car,
whereupon, he locked the car and threw the keys to Mr. lindsay. When
Mr. Lindsay refused to turn over the keys, he was charged with
obstructing justice and ordered to not enter the courthouse again in
St. Albert. (interesting logic here).

One must remember that travel is a right. A driver's license only
applies to a commercial owner/operator driver. Even though one may have
a driver's license in one's pocket, it cannot be required of a natural
person travelling under the inalienable right of liberty. Only a
proficiency certificate can be required, and that allows no summary
jurisdiction.

Suppose a farmer, with a  hunting license in his pocket, slaughters one
of his calves; and, a game warden came along. The game warden arrests
the farmer for not obeying the game regulations. Would that stand in
court? I think not! Then, why are the RCMP getting away with citing,
arresting or otherwise hastling private car owners with commercial
driving regulations?

Hey!  Folks!  You'd better strat waking up, if you want any kund of
freedom for your grand-children.

Eldon Warman
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In article <3USR3.438$Q5.35969@news1.rdc1.ab.home.com>,
jenuths@homacjen.ab.ca wrote:
> In can.legal Noah  wrote:
> > Caron was a citizen of Quebec, was he not?
> He was a resident of Quebec.  There is no such thing as Quebec
> citizenship.

Are you sure about that?  Is it not citizens that benefit from a
constitution?  Surely you know that the Canada Act, 1982 is not the
*only* constitution in the land?

> > What was the essence of the
> > reason for the P.C. to hear the Caron case?

> It was an appeal from the highest level of court to His Majesty
> the King.  Such appeals were handled by the Judicial Committee of
> the Privy Council which made a recommendation to the King.

Okay, so then that means that there was some lower court which tried
the case. Which one? And what was the finding of the lower court, out
of curiosity?

> > That being the crux of the
> > matter, does this mean that every Canadian is subject to the
> findings
> > of a court of Federal jurisdiction which co-incides with Civil
> code
> > law?
> It had nothing to do with civil procedure in Quebec, not civil
> law in Quebec.
> The matter was tried in the common law system of courts which were
> established by the federal government.

So what your saying is that the Privy Council was a court of common
law?  Am I reading you right here?

> > I should hope not; for, most lawyers, by far, are *not* schooled
> > in the *code* which applies *exclusively* to those citizens of
> the
> > Province of Quebec.
> It applies to cases which are involve Quebec law.  It has nothing
> to
> do with citizenship.

> > To do otherwise, IMHO, would impart a paramountcy
> > of prejudice against the choice of an individual to have a court
> of
> > competent jurisdiction *within the law of the province* of the
> > individual accused.

> You are running off on a real tangent here.  Perhaps you could
> explain how the Quebec civil code would have effected in any
> way the trial of this case, or the appeal.

Actually, since I am not versed in the Civil code, I couldn't hazard a
guess. But something tells me that the old Napoleonic Law couldn't have
been all that salient for the masses, in Canada; otherwise, why would
on only 1/10th of the provinces accept it?  No disrespect to you,
counsellor, but Gawd, I wish we had a Montreal lawyer in the ng; for I
am presuming that you are not well-versed in the "code" as well. Are
you?

> < In other words, had Caron been a citizen of any
> > other province, I suggest that the findings would have been more
> in
> > line with section 52 of the Charter;

> It didn't exist at that time.  Although a very similar provision
> was found in the Colonial Laws Validity Act, which applied to
> Canada
> at that time.
> In any event, the decision was not in any way contrary to section
> 52 of the Constitution Act, 1982.

Do you care to post the Colonial Laws Validity Act section, so that we
may compare it to the section 52?  That would be most helpful.

The decision was that the
> federal
> government had the power to levy an income tax.
> > but, as Caron *was* a citizen of a
> > province that adheres to a convention of law code, other than
> common
> > law, there should be no question as to the discriminatory aspect
> of
> > Caron v King, insofar as the Crown purports the case to apply to
> all
> > residents of Canada.

> The decisions of the Supreme Court of Canada and the Privy  Council
> in the Caron case bind all lower courts.

> Don't you think it would be farcical if we had a legal system which
> would have the highest court declare that the federal government
> had the power levy an income tax in Quebec, Alberta, and BC; and
> not in the remaining provinces based on 10 different court
> decisions.

Agreed. But how do you explain why that very province *refuses* to sign
a tax collection agreement with the Federal Goverment?  Does not such
refusal signify that these tax collection agreements are
unconstitutional, for a *Union* means the whole; not 9/10ths of the
whole.

> > There is no question, at law, that Quebecers are resolute, I
> believe,
> > to the convention of Civil code law. On the other hand, citizens
> of all
> > other provinces are not.  What prima facie evidence supports
> that Caron
> > was a *resident* of Canada?
> Income tax was only levied against residents of Canada.
> Caron was a resident of Quebec at the relavant time, so he was
> a resident of Canada.
> > None that I am aware of. Conversely,
> > thought, Caron *was* a resident of Quebec. Are you suggesting
> that a
> > person who is classified as a resident of Quebec, is also a
> resident of
> > Canada?

> Yes.  I think you have it there.  Quebec is part of Canada.  Every
> resident of Quebec is a resident of Canada.

But how can one be a resident of both?  That is impossible to
comprehend. It's like shoes, you can only wear one pair at a time, no
matter how big your feet are! ;-)

> However, every resident of Canada is not necessarily a resident of
> Quebec.  Canada is somewhat larger than Quebec.
> > Quebec is *not* Canada; neither is Canada; Quebec... yet.
> > Therefore, how can Caron be a resident of *both*, since each is
> a
> > sovereign state, under the constitution?
> They aren't soveriegn states.  However, their legislatures are
> soveriegn (within the powers which have been granted to them).

I beg to differ. If Quebec is, as you suggest, *not* sovereign, then
how do you explain the SCC ruling that she can secede?  *Who's* vote
makes the event possible; yours and mine?  No.  Just the Quebecers,
>from what I understand of the ruling. Now, counsellor, if that is not
sovereingn, then what is?

Noah
> --
> Best regards,
> Stephen Jenuth
> (jenuths@homacjen.ab.ca)
> Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.



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Thanks Eldon. Now, everybody knows what really happened there, I
presume.

Noah


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"Erik" wrote:
> You haven't proven anywhere in your post that you 'own' name is
> Eldon Warman.

Comment:  How do you propose that I "prove" my name is Eldon Warman?
Actually, "Eldon Warman" is a "strawman" name. I am not really sure
that that the name I use is my real name; however, my mother and
father, (I presume they are) call me by that name. I post my internet
webpage by that name. Give me a clue as to how you think I should go
about "proving" who I am - Mr. Erik NoName.

Eldon-Gerald: Warman (Common Law name)
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From: Eldon Warman 
Subject: Re: Citizen's Arrest on Alberta judge
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Noah wrote:
> Thanks Eldon. Now, everybody knows what really happened there, I
> presume.
> Noah

Thanks, Noah. However, if the participants on this discussion group are
any example of current thinking - and thinking ability, I suspect that
there isn't much hope for the salvaging of Canada and the uSA from the
headlong and suicidal plunge into despotism.

Eldon Warman
Much more than detax at:
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From egwarmanNOegSPAM@hotmail.com.invalid Thu Oct 28 21:46:06 EDT 1999
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From: Eldon Warman 
Subject: Re: Back To Canadian Income Taxes
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"David Smith" wrote:
> Eldon Warman  wrote in
> message
> news:000b8d9b.168f761e@usw-ex0102-010.remarq.com...
> | Can anyone tell me why this McVay jerk is adding his vile two
> cents worth to this discussion topic?
> |
> One might ask you the same question.
> Later....
> David S.

I offer (and, the ONLY ONE to author) a program, free or otherwise, to
Canadians which absolutely frees them from the burden of the Income Tax
SCAM.

I think that is a worthy addition to a topic entitled:
"Back to Canadian Income Taxes."

Eldon Warman
DetaxCanada
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From: Eldon Warman 
Subject: Re: Back To Canadian Income Taxes
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(Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
> Perhaps Mr. Warman would like to substantiate his charge that I
> have "Zionist masters?"

Comment:  Matthew 12:33  ... for, the tree is known by his fruit.

> (I add my two cents worth, Mr. Warman, because you are a rather
> vile Judeophobe, and a few users here wanted help dealing with your
> vomit.)
Comment: Thanks for the modifier "rather".  Guess that does not make me
totally "vile" to the Zionist crowd. And "phobia" means fear. Don't
suspect that applies to me, since I am openly posting here on this
discussion group my opposition to the Zionist nefarious schemes.

The word "vomit" is well chosen. I believe "vomit" usually results from
having swollowed something putrid. Canadians have been fed a lot of
"horse shit" from you people.

> From "mad dog" to "rabid dog," eh, Mr. Warman? Hey, if you can't
> handle the heat, get out of the kitchen.

Comment: "Rabid" further clarifies the reason for the use of the word
"Mad" - when used in reference to "dogs".

Eldon Warman
AKA: Wile E. Coyote (according to Mimi)


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From: Eldon Warman 
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Mr. McVey,

Your sleazy questions don't answers make?

Obviously, you are well trained in sleazy lawyer tactics; and well
schooled in the falacies of philosophy. If that can be considered a
credit, Mr. McVey, you will be highly honoured at one of the many Jew
spectacles where they publicly heap grandiose praises upon each other -
Oscar, Grammy, Emmy, etc.  Matt. 23:27 "Alas for you, scribes and
Pharisees, you hypocrites! You who are like whitewashed tombs that look
handsome on the outside, but inside are full of dead men's bones and
every kind of corruption. In the same way, you appear to people from
the outside like good honest men, but inside, you are full of hypocracy
and lawlessness." (Jerusalem Bible)  Nothing has changed much in two
thousand years!

Eldon Warman
AKA:  Wile E. Coyote


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Subject: Re: No Conspiracy?? B.S.!!
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Herb Gorman wrote:
>> Eldon Warman wrote:
> > For those of you who have your blindfold on, or, if you are

> Freemasons, are "hoodwinked", how about this information:
> So someone took out a patent.... for this you got your knickers
> knotted up? I've got a deal for you, Eldon... just trot on down
> to your local kitchen shop, and buy the best stainless steel
> collander you can lay your hands upon. Strap it to your head.
> The Lizard People won't be able to see you, and that means they
> can't give you a number, either... but don't take that sucker off,
> buddy.... once you do that, you're just another digit - Lizard
> droppings, so to speak, eh? About $15 should do it.

Comment:  Stepped on your sensitive Masonic toe, did I, Herb?
          Or, are you of the Jewish variety of "Gorman"?
          Seems as though David Icke also has your sensitive
          button "boresighted". You must have some "guilt" about
          your treasonous ways for you to have to resort to that
          kind of "claptrap" in this discussion group.

Eldon Warman
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From: Eldon Warman 
Subject: Re: SCC's decision in Caron (was Re: Citizen PaysTaxman With Funny Money)
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Paul McKeever wrote:
Exerpt from Privy Council (Supreme Court)
>  taxes upon the salaries of provincial officials.  We are
>  unable to distinguish the present appeal from our decision and
>  the reasons in the Abbott Case [[1908] 40 Can. S.C.R. 597] and
>  would therefore dismiss appeal.
>       Appeal dismissed.

Paul, I believe the key to why the income tax was found applicable to
Caron lies in the phrase "provincial official".

Under the corporation sole and emminent domain of the Governor General
and sub to the Lt. Governor, a "provincial official" is a "member" of a
Roman Corporation. As such, he was a "fiction" and a "legal entity".
The Income Tax combines ALL legal entities into the common name
"taxpayer". All "taxpayers" are subject to the Income Tax.

However, natural persons who are not under contract to be a legal
entity, such as a government official, by assumed contract (having so
indicated by their filing of a return of taxes), a military member,
etc. is not subject to the Income Tax Act. If one were, that would be a
direct violation of the person, liberty and property right.  Blackstone
was very clear on that issue.

Eldon Warman
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"David Smith" wrote:
> But you have already confessed in this newsgroup that your program
> does not work. And that a person using it will be convicted.
> --
> Later....
> David S.

Comment: HUHHHHH!  That's sure news to me!

I'm not a mechanic; however, the speedo is reading 120 klicks,
and the motor is humming nicely. Seems OK to me, David;  - and, not a
flashing red and blue in sight...

Eldon Warman
Find out how to Detax (FREE!)at:
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You're being very boring and repetitive, Mr. McVay!

If you are too stupid to find your own answers, why don't you just
settle for trading Beanie Babies or something - do something that
better suits your childish mind.

I think you've shown the real World (via the internet) what sort of
Jerk(s) the Zionists are sending out as "smoke jumpers" to stomp out
threats against their nefarious plans for World subjegation, genocide
and slavery.

Eldon Warman
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Thx for posting the SCC decision, Paul. Now, Eldon seems to think this
"provincial official" has some bearing on *how* the court ruled. From
what I remember, Abbott was against the city of St. John, yes?  What
was the essence of *that* argument?  Perhaps, we can determine from the
Abbott case, whether Eldon may be on to something here, or not. I have
maintain, for quite some time, that the state-created *entity* is
required to pay a tax on income. No question that a "provincial
officer" is a state-created entity. The question is, however, *who*
lost the appeal:  the flesh 'n' blood Caron, or the CARON fiction, eh? 
;-))

Here's a hypothetical: if Caron had not been an "official", under what
*colour* of law, would the court have ruled? What I mean is that if
Caron had been just an ordinary bloke, what might have, hypothetically,
happened? The court would not have been able to include "provincial
officer"; that's a given.  I'm curious to know, hypothetically, if the
court would have ruled that Caron, because the state did not have any
claim against his natural Man self, would be required to pay a tax to
the Federal Government, on his income.

BTW, what was the very next case that the court referred to the Caron
finding?


Noah


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Sheesh Fred, makes a hell of lot of sense, when you put it that way!  I
had thought that Mr. Jenuth's posting was a little odd, but as I am not
a lawyer, I could not rebut. Thx.  The very fact that you are still a
U.S. citizen and able to reside where you like, must be evidence that
an inhabitant of a province is *not* necessarily a citizen of that
province or even of the country wherein the province is domained.

Now, Mr. Jenuths, I repeat, was Caron *not* a citizen of Quebec?  If
so, then Caron was under an entirely different *code* of law than the
rest of Canada. You said that the Privy Council ruling applied to
*everyone* in Canada. Then, are you not saying that 9/10s of the
country's total citizens can be held accountable upon a ruling brought
down by a court that, obviously, had to take into account the civil
code, in order to be fair to Caron, no?  Or did Caron, because he was a
"provincial officer" lose his right to be tried by a court of
competency?  In other words, did the Privy Council pay no attention to
the civil code in the case?

Noah


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Subject: Re: Citizen's Arrest on Alberta judge
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 Randy Wittchen wrote:
> Unlike a peace officer a person may only arrest another whom he
> finds committing an indictable offence, i.e. an offence set out in the
> Criminal Code or another federal statute under Parliament's
> criminal law power which may be proceeded with by way of indictment.
> If there is not an indictable offence then you have no right to
> effect an arrest.
> This is confirmed in s. 9 of the Criminal Code which provides there
> cannot be a conviction for offences except for Canadian statutory
> offenses (i.e. no common law crimes, offences under an Act of the
> UK Parliament or an offence in colony, province or territory prior
> to becoming part of Canada).

Comment: You are obviously unaware that the Federal Government of
Canada is/and has been an impostor since 1931. Therefore, any statutes
made after that date are "ultra vires".  All judges in Canada are
impostors. Statutes cannot take away common law rights. The people have
a sovereign right to the protections, or as scetion 63 of the Magna
Carta says: "the liberties, rights and concessions" are FOREVER.

Sure, some group may eventually have to use the force of arms to
recover these unlawfully taken and usurped rights; however, they are
ours for the taking under natural right. Use all the invective you
like, you cannot change that fact.

> The exception to this is that this restriction does not effect
> the "power, jurisdiction or authority that a COURT, JUDGE, JUSTICE
> OR PROVINCIAL COURT JUDGE had, immediately before April 1, 1955, to
> impose punishment for contempt of court."   Individuals do not
> possess the jurisdiction over contempt of court, that resides in
> a court.

ANSWER:  A judge does not a court make in common law. You are thinking
Roman or colonial court. In common law, there has to be several factors
satisfied to constitute a court. Among these is jurisdiction. Since an
income tax issue is always a contract litigation issue, a contract
arbitrator MUST have evidence that both parties are party to the
contract.  Mr. Mains has lawfully voided a fraudulent contract by
constructive notice and has benefitted from tacit concent and default.
Therefore, he was not proven to be party to the contract in question.
The evidence these impostor judges are using is by having the summonsed
party enter the bar and enter a plea. This is making use of presumption
to establish jurisdiction. Forcing a sovereign into a subservient and
outlawed position under a system of laws foreign to the sovereign by a
public servant constitutes treason. Constructive treason is treason
which meets the criteria of treason but which isn't codified. Servant's
statutes cannot nullify the sovereign's rights.
"Actus legis nemini facit injuriam"
(An act of the law wrongs no man.)
Translation: An act of the law is to be so limited in its operation
that no right shall be prejudiced.

> I am unaware of any criminal offense styled as "constructive
> treason" or criminal contempt of court.  There are certain acts
> (disobeying an order of the court, failure to attend court,
> refusal to testify at a preliminary hearing, failing to attend
> as a witness, etc.) but these are all punishable under the
> Crimial Code by the courts and not in any way applicable to the
> facts that you have set out.

> >Since the formal court had not been established without the
> >subject defendant giving jurisdiction by entering a plea,
> >no grounds were available to the judge for declaring contempt
> >of court against Mr. Lindsay or Mr. Wishewan. Income Tax
> >charges are within contract adjudication.  Therefore both
> >parties to the contract must approve (acknowledge jurisdiction)
> >before the judge gains jurisdiction and convenes a lawful court.

> No.  Once a court is in session (by the arrival of the judge) it is
> within the control of the presiding judge and it is his court.

Comment:  Apparently this judge didn't know what you supposedly know.

> If you disagree with a judge's ruling then you appeal the ruling
> you do not threaten a judge with a "citizen's arrest".

Comment: he didn't make a ruling. He attempted to do something that the
Supreme Court said was unlawful. No one is imune from a violation of
law. Appeal only questions the facts presented and the procedures for a
properly jurisdictioned court. This one hadn't established jurisdiction.
A writ of error or prohibition stands for oughtright unlawful activity
in a court that has established jurisdiction; however, this court had
not been established. Only admiralty court can impose jurisdiction.

> It would have been open to the judge if he wished to have cited
> these bozos for contempt in the face of the court but the contempt
> power is seldom invoked.

Comment:  Again, apparently this judge was not as well schooled as you
supposedly are.

> Many offences in the Income Tax Act (and many other federal statutes)
> are enacted under the criminal law power of Parliament and prosecuted
> in the criminal courts.

Comment:  That is part of the despotism of a usurper and impostor
government. If this is new to you, as it obviously is, I suggest you do
some homework. If you can find anywhere where the Canadian People have
authorized a British Board of Trade organization the distinguished
position of becoming Canada's Federal Government, I would surely like
to read it and see it. The British Government certainly didn't
recognize any legitimate Federal Government in 1931 when they gave the
same sovereign authority to the Provinces as they gave to the other
dominion governments.
>
> >The RCMP officer present  refused to accept an order to arrest
> >the judge, as is required. The RCMP officer threatened to stop Mr.
> >Wishewan if he attempted to place a hand on the judge (required
> >procedure when doing a citizen's arrest). Therefore, the RCMP
> >officer obstructed justice and committed a breach of trust of a
> >public officer, both criminal offenses. The judge bolted from
> >the courtroom.

> You need to read the Criminal Code before displaying such a lack of
> knowledge in these matters.  The RCMP officer acted appropriately.
> If he had put his hand on the judge he would have been arrested and
> quite properly for assault in these circumstances.  The RCMP officer
> is not required to take directions from anyone, including misguided
> fools, in effecting an arrest without a warrant - it is a decision
> the RCMP officer makes.  There are no grounds for any charge of
> obstructing justice or breach of trust against the officer apparent
> from even the most favourable reading of the facts as you have
> presented them.

Comment: I suggest you are still hung up on colonial law -pre 1931. A
colonial officer is endowed with the same privilege as a ship's officer
or military officer; however, since 1931, this is a common law country.
Police are now public servants, not officers. A natural freeman is a
sovereign, and as such  can order a public servant to act in the
capacity to which he has been assigned. It is called "mandamus". Also,
the RCMP officer (mis-named) also is required by law to arrest a law
breaker when he sees a law being broken. Not only did he not obey his
mandate; but, he disobeyed an order by a superior -the people you call
"misguided fools".  I would suggest that THEY are not the misguided
fools.

> > One must remember that travel is a right. A driver's license only
> > applies to a commercial owner/operator driver. Even though one
> > may have a driver's license in one's pocket, it cannot be required
> > of a natural person travelling under the inalienable right of
> > liberty. Only a proficiency certificate can be required, and that
> > allows no summary jurisdiction.

> You must have missed your medications.  You need some help with
> these florid delusions.
> Randy Wittchen

Comment: How can Canadians, who demonstrate SO MUCH ignorance, as you
do MR. Wittchen, have the nerve to get on a public forum and spout such
invective upon ONE WHO KNOWS?

Eldon Warman
http://www.detaxcanada.org/drivers.htm
Read it, Mr. Wittchen, you might learn something.



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Can't resist the diversionary tactic of invective, bluster and name
calling can you David?

Strange how that comes blaring out when confronted with irrefutable
evidence that you have been lying through both ends of your body - and,
of your Traitorous acts in keeping Canadian subject to the Communistic
income tax.

Third plank of the Jew, Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto:
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

Eldon Warman
Detax Author and Consultant
  AKA: Wile E. Coyote



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In article <0a0133f8.df7d2ae0@usw-ex0102-011.remarq.com>, Eldon Warman
 wrote:
>  Randy Wittchen wrote:
> > Unlike a peace officer a person may only arrest another whom he
> > finds committing an indictable offence, i.e. an offence set out
> in the
> > Criminal Code or another federal statute under Parliament's
> > criminal law power which may be proceeded with by way of
> indictment.
> > If there is not an indictable offence then you have no right to
> > effect an arrest.
> > This is confirmed in s. 9 of the Criminal Code which provides
> there
> > cannot be a conviction for offences except for Canadian statutory
> > offenses (i.e. no common law crimes, offences under an Act of the
> > UK Parliament or an offence in colony, province or territory
> prior
> > to becoming part of Canada).
> Comment: You are obviously unaware that the Federal Government of
> Canada is/and has been an impostor since 1931. Therefore, any
> statutes
> made after that date are "ultra vires".  All judges in Canada are
> impostors. Statutes cannot take away common law rights. The people
> have
> a sovereign right to the protections, or as scetion 63 of the Magna
> Carta says: "the liberties, rights and concessions" are FOREVER.
> Sure, some group may eventually have to use the force of arms to
> recover these unlawfully taken and usurped rights; however, they
> are
> ours for the taking under natural right. Use all the invective you
> like, you cannot change that fact.
> > The exception to this is that this restriction does not effect
> > the "power, jurisdiction or authority that a COURT, JUDGE,
> JUSTICE
> > OR PROVINCIAL COURT JUDGE had, immediately before April 1, 1955,
> to
> > impose punishment for contempt of court."   Individuals do not
> > possess the jurisdiction over contempt of court, that resides in
> > a court.
> ANSWER:  A judge does not a court make in common law. You are
> thinking
> Roman or colonial court. In common law, there has to be several
> factors
> satisfied to constitute a court. Among these is jurisdiction.
> Since an
> income tax issue is always a contract litigation issue, a contract
> arbitrator MUST have evidence that both parties are party to the
> contract.  Mr. Mains has lawfully voided a fraudulent contract by
> constructive notice and has benefitted from tacit concent and
> default.

Huhhh?  "...lawfully voided a fraudulent contract by constructive
notice...? What's this constructive notice thing? How and *why* does it
work?  Why does the notice have to be recognized by the other party? 
Couldn't they simply ignore it and look upon it as *frivolous*?

Noah

> Therefore, he was not proven to be party to the contract in
> question.
> The evidence these impostor judges are using is by having the
> summonsed
> party enter the bar and enter a plea. This is making use of
> presumption
> to establish jurisdiction. Forcing a sovereign into a subservient
> and
> outlawed position under a system of laws foreign to the sovereign
> by a
> public servant constitutes treason.

Sorry Eldon, but you seem to be getting *very* deep here. What do you
mean by that statement?  Further, how does the sovereign, as you say,
provide prima facie evidence that the system oflaw is foreign to
him/her? Very intriguing convention, I must say.

Noah

Constructive treason is treason
> which meets the criteria of treason but which isn't codified.
> Servant's
> statutes cannot nullify the sovereign's rights.
> "Actus legis nemini facit injuriam"
> (An act of the law wrongs no man.)
> Translation: An act of the law is to be so limited in its operation
> that no right shall be prejudiced.

> > I am unaware of any criminal offense styled as "constructive
> > treason" or criminal contempt of court.  There are certain acts
> > (disobeying an order of the court, failure to attend court,
> > refusal to testify at a preliminary hearing, failing to attend
> > as a witness, etc.) but these are all punishable under the
> > Crimial Code by the courts and not in any way applicable to the
> > facts that you have set out.
> > >Since the formal court had not been established without the
> > >subject defendant giving jurisdiction by entering a plea,
> > >no grounds were available to the judge for declaring contempt
> > >of court against Mr. Lindsay or Mr. Wishewan. Income Tax
> > >charges are within contract adjudication.  Therefore both
> > >parties to the contract must approve (acknowledge jurisdiction)
> > >before the judge gains jurisdiction and convenes a lawful court.
> > No.  Once a court is in session (by the arrival of the judge) it
> is
> > within the control of the presiding judge and it is his court.
> Comment:  Apparently this judge didn't know what you supposedly
> know.
> > If you disagree with a judge's ruling then you appeal the ruling
> > you do not threaten a judge with a "citizen's arrest".
> Comment: he didn't make a ruling. He attempted to do something
> that the
> Supreme Court said was unlawful. No one is imune from a violation
> of
> law. Appeal only questions the facts presented and the procedures
> for a
> properly jurisdictioned court. This one hadn't established
> jurisdiction.
> A writ of error or prohibition stands for oughtright unlawful
> activity
> in a court that has established jurisdiction; however, this court
> had
> not been established. Only admiralty court can impose jurisdiction.
> > It would have been open to the judge if he wished to have cited
> > these bozos for contempt in the face of the court but the
> contempt
> > power is seldom invoked.
> Comment:  Again, apparently this judge was not as well schooled as
> you
> supposedly are.
> > Many offences in the Income Tax Act (and many other federal
> statutes)
> > are enacted under the criminal law power of Parliament and
> prosecuted
> > in the criminal courts.
> Comment:  That is part of the despotism of a usurper and impostor
> government. If this is new to you, as it obviously is, I suggest
> you do
> some homework. If you can find anywhere where the Canadian People
> have
> authorized a British Board of Trade organization the distinguished
> position of becoming Canada's Federal Government, I would surely
> like
> to read it and see it. The British Government certainly didn't
> recognize any legitimate Federal Government in 1931 when they gave
> the
> same sovereign authority to the Provinces as they gave to the other
> dominion governments.
> >
> > >The RCMP officer present  refused to accept an order to arrest
> > >the judge, as is required. The RCMP officer threatened to stop
> Mr.
> > >Wishewan if he attempted to place a hand on the judge (required
> > >procedure when doing a citizen's arrest). Therefore, the RCMP
> > >officer obstructed justice and committed a breach of trust of a
> > >public officer, both criminal offenses. The judge bolted from
> > >the courtroom.
> > You need to read the Criminal Code before displaying such a lack
> of
> > knowledge in these matters.  The RCMP officer acted
> appropriately.
> > If he had put his hand on the judge he would have been arrested
> and
> > quite properly for assault in these circumstances.  The RCMP
> officer
> > is not required to take directions from anyone, including
> misguided
> > fools, in effecting an arrest without a warrant - it is a
> decision
> > the RCMP officer makes.  There are no grounds for any charge of
> > obstructing justice or breach of trust against the officer
> apparent
> > from even the most favourable reading of the facts as you have
> > presented them.
> Comment: I suggest you are still hung up on colonial law -pre
> 1931. A
> colonial officer is endowed with the same privilege as a ship's
> officer
> or military officer; however, since 1931, this is a common law
> country.
> Police are now public servants, not officers. A natural freeman is
> a
> sovereign, and as such  can order a public servant to act in the
> capacity to which he has been assigned. It is called "mandamus".
> Also,
> the RCMP officer (mis-named) also is required by law to arrest a
> law
> breaker when he sees a law being broken. Not only did he not obey
> his
> mandate; but, he disobeyed an order by a superior -the people you
> call
> "misguided fools".  I would suggest that THEY are not the misguided
> fools.
> > > One must remember that travel is a right. A driver's license
> only
> > > applies to a commercial owner/operator driver. Even though one
> > > may have a driver's license in one's pocket, it cannot be
> required
> > > of a natural person travelling under the inalienable right of
> > > liberty. Only a proficiency certificate can be required, and
> that
> > > allows no summary jurisdiction.
> > You must have missed your medications.  You need some help with
> > these florid delusions.
> > Randy Wittchen
> Comment: How can Canadians, who demonstrate SO MUCH ignorance, as
> you
> do MR. Wittchen, have the nerve to get on a public forum and spout
> such
> invective upon ONE WHO KNOWS?
> Eldon Warman
> http://www.detaxcanada.org/drivers.htm
> Read it, Mr. Wittchen, you might learn something.
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In article ,
jenuths@homacjen.ab.ca wrote:
> In can.legal Noah  wrote:
> > Now, Mr. Jenuths, I repeat, was Caron *not* a citizen of Quebec?
> And I repeat, there is no such thing.  Certainly Caron was resident
> in Quebec, but that is pretty immaterial.
> Since the matter had to do with the interpretation of the BNA Act,
> it was decided on common law principles.
> Provincial law (and for that matter federal law) does not effect
> the manner in which the constitution is interpretted.
> The constitution is supreme, and other laws (like Quebec civil
> code)
> are allowed only because of the constitution.
> >  If
> > so, then Caron was under an entirely different *code* of law
> than the
> > rest of Canada.
> In the same way, you are under a different code of law than I.  I
> am
> in Alberta, you are in Ontario.  Earlier this week when I was in
> Toronto,
> I was under a different code of law than I am now.
> They all have similarities and differences.
> > You said that the Privy Council ruling applied to
> > *everyone* in Canada.
> Yup.  That is the decision of the highest court.  It binds
> everyone.
> > Then, are you not saying that 9/10s of the
> > country's total citizens can be held accountable upon a ruling
> brought
> > down by a court that, obviously, had to take into account the
> civil
> > code, in order to be fair to Caron, no?
> Why?
> It had nothing to do with the civil code.  It was simply to do with
> the interpretation of the constitution.
> >  Or did Caron, because he was a
> > "provincial officer" lose his right to be tried by a court of
> > competency?
> What is a court of competency?

In my unlearned view, it means a court that is competent to preside. In
other words, the FCTD could not be considered competent to rule on a
constitutional matter. Conversely, the provincial courts could not be
considered competent to rule on an income tax matter; withstanding the
criminal element being entwined in the matter.

Noah
> > In other words, did the Privy Council pay no attention to
> > the civil code in the case?
> Yes, they paid no attention to the civil code, nor the writings
> of Darwin.
> --
> Best regards,
> Stephen Jenuth
> (jenuths@homacjen.ab.ca)
> Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.



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In article <11f733ec.c808c45c@usw-ex0101-005.remarq.com>, Eldon Warman
 wrote:
> (Doug Bissett) wrote:
> > As much as I hate to get involved with this rant, I must point
> out
> > that the government of Canada, is NOT an imposter.

> Comment:  I beg to differ.  I have positive proof that I can send
> you

Oh good!  Can you send by email?  If so, then send to
garmec@my-deja.com thank you.

Noah

> showing that the Parliament of Canada never had the authority to
> usurp
> power as the Government of Canada.  From 1967 to 1931, the
> parliament
> of Canada was an organization under the British Board of Trade and
> under the direct control of the emminent domain in Canada, the
> corporation sole known as the Governor General. Parliament was
> never
> incorporated as an entity apart and separate from the fiction
> called
> the Governor General. It still is not a person.  That is why all
> lawsuits from the Government originate in the Queen - who herself
> is an
> IMPOSTOR monarch in Canada. Section #2(1) of the Statute of
> Westminster
> relieved the Monarch of Great Britain of ALL sovereign authority
> over
> Canada.
> > They are in power, because the citizen's of Canada chose to elect
> > them to run the country for them.
> Comment: WRONG! NO CANADIAN CITIZEN has voted for Parliament, or a
> Provincial Legislature since 1931. Remember, (of course you
> wouldn't)
> voting registration came into being in 1932. Voter registration is
> in
> fact "joining the club". Just as do people who wish to vote for the
> national officers of the Kiwinis Club have to be members, so do
> people
> who wish to vote for the club (remember, it is not a lawful
> incorporated body politic) called Parliament.
> > Unfortunately, the MAJORITY of citizen's of Canada seem
> > to have no idea about what kind of havoc the government is
> creating,
> > and they continue to elect idiots who seem to think that huge
> debts,
> > and unfunded liabilities, are not a problem, and that "they"
> > can "fix" all of the countries woes by spending more money.
>  Comment: The People of Wetaskiwin vs Milton Littlechild MP in
> 1991 was
> positive proof that the People have absolutely no say as to what
> MP's
> do after they are elected. As a fictional fiction, they are
> untouchable
> by those who elect them. You elect a crew to man a ship. Once the
> ship
> sets sail, the voters have absolutely no more control over those
> crewmembers until the crew gets back on land. (next election).
> > As the old chinese proverb says: "Be careful about what you ask
> > for, you might just get it". The people of Canada asked for, and
> got,
> > the government that they elected. The electorate, also seems to
> think
> > that the government is doing the right thing, and they keep on
> > electing the same one.
> Comment: The Club of Parliament's owners (Privy Council - all
> connected
> to the Rothchild Empire) select all candidates that matter. So, the
> choises are between Eeny, Meany, Miney or Moe.  Same bullshit,
> different pile!
> Eldon Warman
> Detax Author and Consultant
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In article ,
jenuths@homacjen.ab.ca wrote:
> In can.legal Noah  wrote:
> >> What is a court of competency?
> > In my unlearned view, it means a court that is competent to
> preside. In
> > other words, the FCTD could not be considered competent to rule
> on a
> > constitutional matter.
> And why would that be?
> Clearly the Federal Court and the Supreme Court of Canada disagree.

Huh???? Okay, so which disagreed:  the SCC with a FC ruling, or the FC
with a SCC ruling?

> Do you have any reason to suggest otherwise?
> > Conversely, the provincial courts could not be
> > considered competent to rule on an income tax matter;
> withstanding the
> > criminal element being entwined in the matter.

> Only because until recently they did not have the jurisdiction to
> entertain suits against the federal crown (this was part of the
> federal courts jurisdiction).

And, how did the jurisdiction become loosed from the FC?  For what
reasons?

> Of course, when hearing a criminal matter, they could certainly
> consider whether the legislation is unconstitutional.
> Usually it would be done by challenging the information at an
> early stage (ie. before plea).
> --
> Best regards,
> Stephen Jenuth
> (jenuths@homacjen.ab.ca)
> Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.



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Wonderful! Now we have a professed *expert* on constitutional law,
within our group. This is fantastic, for now we'll be able to focus-in
on the real essence of many of the consternations brought-forth in this
forum. Now, sir, I am led to believe that you are also a historian on
the very subject. Assuming this be true, then perhaps you can elaborate
on how a "finance bill", which did not meet Parliamentary procedures of
the day, end up being viewed, *lawfully*, by the justices of the
courts, as the constitution of Canada?

I recently read a very intriguing treatise, wherein the author contends
that the BNA Act was nothing more than a *blue print* for the
Governor-General to rule the colonies known as New Brunswick, Nova
Scotia, Upper Canada, and Lower Canada, on behalf of HMG. I'm curious
to know how a constitutional law expert might rebut such an outlandish
convention.

One of the other startling things I discovered, reading this work, was
there is published evidence supporting the fact that the
Governor-General's office was created in a fraudulent way. Why? Because
the William Lyon McKenzie King had no lawful authority to sign the
Letters Patent on behalf of HMK. So, unless you have incontrovertible
evidence to the contrary, the Governor-General's office was created at
the whim of Canada's CEO at the time, nothing more, IMHO.  With all due
respect, sir, did you learn the antithesis to *that* wild 'n' crazy
notion, in your studies?  If so, I am sure that more than I would be
utterly fascinated with the report.


Noah




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Yippee Ki yay!  We now have a "learned" man who is beginning to see
through different glasses. This is so re-freshing, it almost takes my
breath away ;-)

Paul, I have a question:  this Caron thing really bothers me. Jenuths
and I have been going head-to-head on Caron for sometime. I'm of the
view that the SCC erred in its decision, in Caron, by simply giving a
vice-versa ruling. I also contend that because the court used the
expressive:  "provincial officer" in its ruling, that the ruling could
only apply to provincial officers. But Jenuths is trying, admirally I
might add, to show me the errors of my contention.  I am not a lawyer,
but I do know the basic principles of law. My understanding of those
principles leads me to remain steadfast in my beliefs that the Caron
case being used as a crutch by the feds, in income tax matters, is
purely political, and *not* what one might deem to be
"purity-in-justice".  No system of justice, could lawfully deem itself
so, when the court hold bias toward the defendant. Bias is produced,
IMHO, the moment the defendant states s/he is not such a person as
ruled by the court and the court says, "Sorry, even though you are not
a provincial officer, or a person as the ruling was intended to be
applied to, the ruling still applies to you."  Seems a bit draconian,
IMHO.  This is why I asked, in an earlier post, what was the very next
time the Caron ruling was referred to, in *any* court?  I'm curious to
learn how the sitting justices managed to work their respective ways
through the mine-field, when the defense argued, "My Lords, my client
is not a provincial officer. Therefore, we need to establish, once and
for all, that this particular ruling applies to all residents of the
Dominion, and not just to those that are officers of our governments." 
That is the case, I'm interested in reviewing. Do you know the case? 
If someone would be good enough to post it, then we could all debate
the essence and see what a more-modern court might rule. The challenge
we have with Caron is that the Privy Council, as I have stated before,
ceased to exist in 1949. Nothwithstanding that the SCC became the
supreme court of the land, I believe the court is reluctant to re-visit
the case; if, indeed, it has the authority to do so.

Noah





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In article <381A698F.1557@direct.ca>, Randy Wittchen
 wrote:
> Hi Noah
> Noah wrote:
> >
> > Wonderful! Now we have a professed *expert* on constitutional
> law,
> > within our group. This is fantastic, for now we'll be able to
> focus-in
> > on the real essence of many of the consternations brought-forth
> in this
> > forum. Now, sir, I am led to believe that you are also a
> historian on
> > the very subject. Assuming this be true, then perhaps you can
> elaborate
> > on how a "finance bill", which did not meet Parliamentary
> procedures of
> > the day, end up being viewed, *lawfully*, by the justices of the
> > courts, as the constitution of Canada?
> >
> > I recently read a very intriguing treatise, wherein the author
> contends
> > that the BNA Act was nothing more than a *blue print* for the
> > Governor-General to rule the colonies known as New Brunswick,
> Nova
> > Scotia, Upper Canada, and Lower Canada, on behalf of HMG. I'm
> curious
> > to know how a constitutional law expert might rebut such an
> outlandish
> > convention.
> >
> > One of the other startling things I discovered, reading this
> work, was
> > there is published evidence supporting the fact that the
> > Governor-General's office was created in a fraudulent way. Why?
> Because
> > the William Lyon McKenzie King had no lawful authority to sign
> the
> > Letters Patent on behalf of HMK. So, unless you have
> incontrovertible
> > evidence to the contrary, the Governor-General's office was
> created at
> > the whim of Canada's CEO at the time, nothing more, IMHO.  With
> all due
> > respect, sir, did you learn the antithesis to *that* wild 'n'
> crazy
> > notion, in your studies?  If so, I am sure that more than I
> would be
> > utterly fascinated with the report.
> >
> > Noah

> Hi
> You, like many people, do not seem to realize that our
> constitution does
> not simply consist

The proper word, IMHO, is exist, not consist. Canada has no
constitution. As a lawyer you should know that, for even the court
identifies the so-called constitution, as a *statute* of the Imperial
Parliament. Many countries have statutes, but yet the people have a
constitution. Recently I had the pleasure of reviewing a constitution
for a peoples. It was a wonderful read. The surprising part is that
these "peoples" only number 9200!  By the way, just so the ng knows,
these peoples were not a country, but a province of a former British
dependent.  Seems Her Majesty thought fit the people of this tiny
island to have a true constitution, but was not so easily "amused" by
the antics of the PM who was hell-bent-for-election to bring Canada's
home. I have spoken with one of their Government Ministers on other
matters. When asked why the people of the *province* of their country
were fortunate to have such a good constitution, his reply to me was
that they bloody well fought for it. Fight for rights?  Canadians? 
Naw!  As the Red Rose Tea commercial became famous for the quote: "Only
in Canader you say? Pity."

 of the BNA Act, 1867 and amendments (now the
> Constituion Act, 1867 and of various dates) which are Imperial
> statutes
> but includes a number of other Imperial statutes and imperial
> orders in
> council as well as various Canadian statutes, precedential case law
> interpreting the statutes and conventions.  A good part of our
> constitution is unwritten which is in keeping with the preamble to
> the
> BNA Act, 1867 which adopts ... "a Constitution similar in
> Principle to
> that of the United Kingdom."

Yes that is so. However, according to Article XX (I believe it is XX)
of the United Nations Charter, Canada had no rhyme or reason, nay,
lawful right, to maintain such a "keeping with the preamble", for such
*keeping* was in contravention of the convention of sovereignty, so
said the Charter. That is why, sir, the *new* Article was incorporated
within the UN Charter in 1988; to remedy the offending by Canada and
the mother country, against the people of Canada with every single
statute which was passed by the Parliament requiring the Royal Assent. 
Now, I know that you have accused Noah of posting trash, but I am not
Noah. So, counsellor, shall we have a go? I so much enjoy a good joust.

> There are no rules for appointing a Governor General (it was
> assumed
> that it would be done by the monarch acting on the advice of the
> British
> Colonial Secretary

correct.

and this has eveolved in practise to the monrch
> acting on the advice of the canadian Prime Minister)

under what colour of right of law is such a practise evolved, sir?

, there is no
> mention of responsible (i.e. Cabinet) government so no mention of a
> Prime Minister

correct. In fact, the very first time the words "Prime Minister"
appear, in the so-called constitution, is in the 1982 version.

or Cabinet or that a government's power depended
> upon its
> support by the majority in the House of Commons and until 1949 the
> Judicial Committee of the Privy Council in the House of Lords were
> the
> final appellate authority but they are no where mentioned

correct again

and
> until 1982
> civil liberties were left to be protected by the legislatures and
> rules

By George, you must be one of those fellas they call a "federalist".
Civil liberties are still wholely contained within section 92 of the
British North America Act, 1867 and cannot be removed; not even by
constitutional amendment, IMHO.  That would be enlarging the
jurisdictional sphere of the Dominion, which, according to [1951]
S.C.R. 31, [1948] 4 D.L.R. 1, and [1950] 4 D.L.R. 369 is a feat which
simply cannot be accomplished without offending the constitution.
Further, it is settled law that the Federal Government has no lawful
authority to amend the constitution without the blessings of *all* the
provinces. Now, if you can point me to the document ratifying the
constitution *by all* ten (10) Premiers, then I can start to learn to
respect your knowledge. Until then, do be a good chap and not mislead
the ng.

> of common law until the enactment and entrenchment of the Charter.


> It sounds like fantasy to me since the BNA Act was drafted here

actually, sir, I beg to differ:  it is a well-known fact that the
London Conference was the considered authority at the tabling of the
bill. Otherwise, there would have been no changes allowed to the Quebec
Resolutions. After all, the proposal was to be the "constitution" of
some 4 million people, wasn't it?  Surely, no one would dare slip in
the odd thing, here and there, without the approval of *all* the
architects. IMHO, that's why the London Conference became the
bed-of-conception.  To put it bluntly, the Quebec Conference was mere
foreplay. Did you not say so, yourself, that it was a "made in Canada"
proposition?  With all due respect to your expertise in constitutional
law, matters and history, the British North America finance bill may
have been *conceived* in the colonies, but I respectfully submit that
it was *born* in London, and got its first slap-of-life in the United
Kingdom House of Commons. Surely with all your constitutional history
studies, that simple reality must have surfaced somewhere?  Did it not?

Now, sir, you have mentioned a number of authorities on the topic. I
presume, then, that you show no prejudice or distain for Lord
Halsbury's great works:  Halsbury's Laws of England. I was fascinated
to learn *how* Canada evolved. But, what really intrigued me was that
the Imperial Parliament did not create any statute to allow Canada to
break away. I was wondering if you would care to bestow upon us - not
just me, heaven forbid - your pearls-of-wisdom, regarding *why* the
U.K. Parliament did not enact a statute to give Canada her boot "out of
the nest", so to speak?

> after a
> series of meetings between the representatives of the British North
> America colonies - Upper and Lower Canada, Prince Edward Island,
> Nova
> Scotia and New Brunswick although PEI backed out and did not enter
> Confederation until 1873.  They then forwarded the draft BNA Act
> to the
> Colonial Office to be put before the UK Parliament for passage to
> create
> a federal union known as the Dominion of Canada.

Ah yes, the Union.  Such a difficult convention to achieve. Funny
thing, history tells us that they were actually arguing over whether to
call it the Dominion of, or the Kingdom of.  But, I have a question, if
you will allow, does not a Union imply the joining together of several
parts?  And, when was such a convention realized by Canada?  Not to
this day.
So, while it may be a fact that the *dominion* of Canada became thus,
as a result of the BNA Act, there can be little doubt that the Union,
so much sought after by Sir John A. McDonald, was never to become a
reality. While Sir John had visions of being the king of his own little
country, there was not such a welcomed convention by the provinces.  By
reviewing the Fourth Earl of Carnarvon's speeches, one can readily see
that the representatives ofthe provinces were not so easy to
toe-the-line, as Sir John had anticipated.  This is why the provinces
saw to it that the Dominion would have the "residuum" of power, not the
paramountcy.

Now, I'm sure that you sir, as a federalist, probably guffaw at such
trivia; but, as Eldon Warman stated, the Board of Trade had much to do
with the *coming together* of the Canadas. As such, the law of contract
was clearly invoked. Read the damn BNA Act again, if you wish,
especially the *concessions* of the provinces to the Dominion. That
sir, represents, the *exchange*. In order to have an exchange, a
contract ezists. Recalling your constitutional history lessons, I
believe you will remember that the "British North America bill" was
tabled as a "finance bill", yes?  That being the case, then why would
you not think that it would incorporate some form of contract?  You
have charged that Eldon and Noah promulgate incoherent ramblings;
perhaps, it is more likely they - and others of like mind - see things
differently, because of their not being indoctrinated with the
federalistic slant on matters. Professor Hogg is a classic example of
that federalistic view.

It was
> definitely a
> made in Canada solution.

And, what is the significance of that, praytell?

> The office of Governor General is referred to in the BNA Act, 1867
> with
> executive power declared to be continued and vested in the Queen
> and her
> powers exercised by a "Governor General" as her personal
> representative.

> The office itself is created not by statute but by Letters Patent
> from
> the monarch

And, why is that sir?

with the latest being dated October 1947.  Up to 1947
> Letters Patent only vested certain prerogative powers in the GG
> with the
> rest being reserved to the Monarch and they contained detailed
> instructions on how the prerogative powers were to be exercised.
> In
> 1947 this changed with a deletion of instructions and all the
> prerogative powers of the monarch were passed over to the GG to be
> exercised on the advice of the Privy Council... "or any members
> thereof
> or individually as the case requires"... which most means the
> Cabinet or
> most often the Prime Minister under our system of responsible
> government.  The 1947 Letters Patent were signed by the reigning
> monarch
> according to the reproductions I have seen.

What reproductions have you seen?  The copy I have obtained, directly
>from England, shows the sign-off:

ON BEHALF OF HIS MAJESTY



WILLIAM LYON MCKENZIE KING

As Noah posted, the PM had no lawful authority to present fraudulent
Letters Patent to the House of Commons in Canada. As I state herein,
the signing of the Lord Chancellor invests the power of the Letters
Patent. Without the Lord Chancellor's signature, the Letters Patent is
nothing more than a "wish list".  Therefore, without the Lord
Chancellor's signature and Seal, how can a Letters Patent be?  We must
remember, now, this was 1947. Gee, that would mean that Canada,
notwithstanding that the Statute of Westminster had been enacted 16
years earlier, was still under the British "thumb", so to speak. As
such, the "rules" of England would still apply, would they not?

I tend to favour the
> views
> of Peter Hogg, Ron Cheffins, Bill Lederman, Eugene Forsey, R.M.
> Dawson,
> Elmer Driedger,

No doubt, in my mind, that you would. However, Elmer's work,
"Construction of Statutes" is a very fine piece of reference material.
Tell me, sir, have you read Fortunatas's version of the same subject? 
Fascinating, I assure you.  Alas, it is rare that our judiciary *fails*
to read the statutes as Elmer felt they should be read. Otherwise, 75%
of the topic, in this ng, would not need to exist.

Gerald La Forest, Bora Laskin, D.V. Smiley, K.C
> Wheare
> et al. who are well respected and renowned constiututional
> scholars and
> in most cases constituional lawyers.  If you want to learn about
> the
> Canadian constituion read these authors.

I repeat, what constitution?  There may be a facsimile of a
constitution, but a guality constitution is not a mere facsimile of
another country, nor is it a statute of a government. It cannot be, for
the very purpose of the constitution is to protect the people from a
government that looks upon enacting statutes, very much the same way as
some business people do their banking in the chequebook banking
fashion, IMHO. To say that one particular statute, if offended by
another statute, created by the same entity is the epitome of a farce
of the entire premise of the convention of constitutionality, and a
grave injustice upon the people effected by that injustice, IMHO. 
Whatever constitution that Canada has, belongs to the people; it does
not belong to either the Federal Government or the Provincial
Legislatures. That is settled law; much to the chagrin of the
federalist. According to Chief Justice Rinfret, in the Bill 136 case,
back in the '50's, "... it is there (speaking of the constitution) that
the people will find the protection..."

> Cite the treatise, the author and where it can be found and I will
> have
> a look at it to determine if there is any validity to the thesis.

> I
> would be most surprised if there is.

Would you now?  The treatise was written from the culmination of more
than 3000 man-hours of research of more than 25,000 pages of
documentation. I know, I was one of the researchers for the work. Just
out of curiosity, sir, did you learn how to interpret the first page of
the British North America Act, 1867?  You know, the page that sets
forth the actual enacting provision of the statute itself?  What I
found most-perculiar was that it was the interests of the provinces
that were paramount, not the Dominion's as I was taught in school. As I
am not one of those so-called conspiracy thinkers, to this day, I
cannot, for the life of me, understand why the first page was "lost"
for such a very, very, very long time.... curious, that.

There are all sorts of loony
> interpretations out there as seen from the materials cited by
> Eldon and
> they seem to proliferate on the internet.
> I am not here for your education nor edification so if you want
> answers

No disrepect intended sir, for I have no formal knowledge of your
credentials, but as for me and my faculties, I am actually grateful for
your statement; for, it would appear, IMHO, that you are so caught up
in your own arrogance, that you cannot see the forest for the trees.
You seem resolute in your thinking and that is quite evident. Tell me,
do you have visions of *sitting* on the bench in your future, or are
you, perhaps, in training to become a Crown Prosecutor?

With all due respect, I suggest you do you own research; indeed, sir.
And, if I might suggest, you would do well to heed your own words. Do
not come onto a ng stating things which you choose not to back up with
incontrovertible evidence, as Noah respectfully suggested; especially
since you are a professed expert. Some reader might think that you are
absolutely right, when you could be dead-wrong.  We are all entitled to
our opinions. Expressing them in a forum, such as this, gives each of
us the opportunity to ascertain what is the truth and what is fiction;
either is *news* as I see it.

If I see something posted with
> which
> I decide to take issue I will do so.

As you can tell, so shall I.

However based on what I have
> seen
> of your posts to date I will likely simply ignore them for the
> most part
> as incoherent ramblings.

My my my.  Somebody must have had razor-blades for breakfast. Or is the
ignoble mind always this arrogant to those less-endowed with knowledge?

Chev.


> Randy Wittchen



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In article <0a0133f8.df7d2ae0@usw-ex0102-011.remarq.com>, Eldon Warman
 wrote:
>  Randy Wittchen wrote:
> > Unlike a peace officer a person may only arrest another whom he
> > finds committing an indictable offence, i.e. an offence set out
> in the
> > Criminal Code or another federal statute under Parliament's
> > criminal law power which may be proceeded with by way of
> indictment.
> > If there is not an indictable offence then you have no right to
> > effect an arrest.
> > This is confirmed in s. 9 of the Criminal Code which provides
> there
> > cannot be a conviction for offences except for Canadian statutory
> > offenses (i.e. no common law crimes, offences under an Act of the
> > UK Parliament or an offence in colony, province or territory
> prior
> > to becoming part of Canada).
> Comment: You are obviously unaware that the Federal Government of
> Canada is/and has been an impostor since 1931. Therefore, any
> statutes
> made after that date are "ultra vires".  All judges in Canada are
> impostors. Statutes cannot take away common law rights. The people
> have
> a sovereign right to the protections, or as scetion 63 of the Magna
> Carta says: "the liberties, rights and concessions" are FOREVER.
> Sure, some group may eventually have to use the force of arms to
> recover these unlawfully taken and usurped rights; however, they
> are
> ours for the taking under natural right. Use all the invective you
> like, you cannot change that fact.
> > The exception to this is that this restriction does not effect
> > the "power, jurisdiction or authority that a COURT, JUDGE,
> JUSTICE
> > OR PROVINCIAL COURT JUDGE had, immediately before April 1, 1955,
> to
> > impose punishment for contempt of court."   Individuals do not
> > possess the jurisdiction over contempt of court, that resides in
> > a court.
> ANSWER:  A judge does not a court make in common law. You are
> thinking
> Roman or colonial court. In common law, there has to be several
> factors
> satisfied to constitute a court. Among these is jurisdiction.
> Since an
> income tax issue is always a contract litigation issue, a contract
> arbitrator MUST have evidence that both parties are party to the
> contract.  Mr. Mains has lawfully voided a fraudulent contract by
> constructive notice and has benefitted from tacit concent and
> default.

Huhhh?  "...lawfully voided a fraudulent contract by constructive
notice...? What's this constructive notice thing? How and *why* does it
work?  Why does the notice have to be recognized by the other party? 
Couldn't they simply ignore it and look upon it as *frivolous*?

Noah

> Therefore, he was not proven to be party to the contract in
> question.
> The evidence these impostor judges are using is by having the
> summonsed
> party enter the bar and enter a plea. This is making use of
> presumption
> to establish jurisdiction. Forcing a sovereign into a subservient
> and
> outlawed position under a system of laws foreign to the sovereign
> by a
> public servant constitutes treason.

Sorry Eldon, but you seem to be getting *very* deep here. What do you
mean by that statement?  Further, how does the sovereign, as you say,
provide prima facie evidence that the system oflaw is foreign to
him/her? Very intriguing convention, I must say.

Noah

Constructive treason is treason
> which meets the criteria of treason but which isn't codified.
> Servant's
> statutes cannot nullify the sovereign's rights.
> "Actus legis nemini facit injuriam"
> (An act of the law wrongs no man.)
> Translation: An act of the law is to be so limited in its operation
> that no right shall be prejudiced.

> > I am unaware of any criminal offense styled as "constructive
> > treason" or criminal contempt of court.  There are certain acts
> > (disobeying an order of the court, failure to attend court,
> > refusal to testify at a preliminary hearing, failing to attend
> > as a witness, etc.) but these are all punishable under the
> > Crimial Code by the courts and not in any way applicable to the
> > facts that you have set out.
> > >Since the formal court had not been established without the
> > >subject defendant giving jurisdiction by entering a plea,
> > >no grounds were available to the judge for declaring contempt
> > >of court against Mr. Lindsay or Mr. Wishewan. Income Tax
> > >charges are within contract adjudication.  Therefore both
> > >parties to the contract must approve (acknowledge jurisdiction)
> > >before the judge gains jurisdiction and convenes a lawful court.
> > No.  Once a court is in session (by the arrival of the judge) it
> is
> > within the control of the presiding judge and it is his court.
> Comment:  Apparently this judge didn't know what you supposedly
> know.
> > If you disagree with a judge's ruling then you appeal the ruling
> > you do not threaten a judge with a "citizen's arrest".
> Comment: he didn't make a ruling. He attempted to do something
> that the
> Supreme Court said was unlawful. No one is imune from a violation
> of
> law. Appeal only questions the facts presented and the procedures
> for a
> properly jurisdictioned court. This one hadn't established
> jurisdiction.
> A writ of error or prohibition stands for oughtright unlawful
> activity
> in a court that has established jurisdiction; however, this court
> had
> not been established. Only admiralty court can impose jurisdiction.
> > It would have been open to the judge if he wished to have cited
> > these bozos for contempt in the face of the court but the
> contempt
> > power is seldom invoked.
> Comment:  Again, apparently this judge was not as well schooled as
> you
> supposedly are.
> > Many offences in the Income Tax Act (and many other federal
> statutes)
> > are enacted under the criminal law power of Parliament and
> prosecuted
> > in the criminal courts.
> Comment:  That is part of the despotism of a usurper and impostor
> government. If this is new to you, as it obviously is, I suggest
> you do
> some homework. If you can find anywhere where the Canadian People
> have
> authorized a British Board of Trade organization the distinguished
> position of becoming Canada's Federal Government, I would surely
> like
> to read it and see it. The British Government certainly didn't
> recognize any legitimate Federal Government in 1931 when they gave
> the
> same sovereign authority to the Provinces as they gave to the other
> dominion governments.
> >
> > >The RCMP officer present  refused to accept an order to arrest
> > >the judge, as is required. The RCMP officer threatened to stop
> Mr.
> > >Wishewan if he attempted to place a hand on the judge (required
> > >procedure when doing a citizen's arrest). Therefore, the RCMP
> > >officer obstructed justice and committed a breach of trust of a
> > >public officer, both criminal offenses. The judge bolted from
> > >the courtroom.
> > You need to read the Criminal Code before displaying such a lack
> of
> > knowledge in these matters.  The RCMP officer acted
> appropriately.
> > If he had put his hand on the judge he would have been arrested
> and
> > quite properly for assault in these circumstances.  The RCMP
> officer
> > is not required to take directions from anyone, including
> misguided
> > fools, in effecting an arrest without a warrant - it is a
> decision
> > the RCMP officer makes.  There are no grounds for any charge of
> > obstructing justice or breach of trust against the officer
> apparent
> > from even the most favourable reading of the facts as you have
> > presented them.
> Comment: I suggest you are still hung up on colonial law -pre
> 1931. A
> colonial officer is endowed with the same privilege as a ship's
> officer
> or military officer; however, since 1931, this is a common law
> country.
> Police are now public servants, not officers. A natural freeman is
> a
> sovereign, and as such  can order a public servant to act in the
> capacity to which he has been assigned. It is called "mandamus".
> Also,
> the RCMP officer (mis-named) also is required by law to arrest a
> law
> breaker when he sees a law being broken. Not only did he not obey
> his
> mandate; but, he disobeyed an order by a superior -the people you
> call
> "misguided fools".  I would suggest that THEY are not the misguided
> fools.
> > > One must remember that travel is a right. A driver's license
> only
> > > applies to a commercial owner/operator driver. Even though one
> > > may have a driver's license in one's pocket, it cannot be
> required
> > > of a natural person travelling under the inalienable right of
> > > liberty. Only a proficiency certificate can be required, and
> that
> > > allows no summary jurisdiction.
> > You must have missed your medications.  You need some help with
> > these florid delusions.
> > Randy Wittchen
> Comment: How can Canadians, who demonstrate SO MUCH ignorance, as
> you
> do MR. Wittchen, have the nerve to get on a public forum and spout
> such
> invective upon ONE WHO KNOWS?
> Eldon Warman
> http://www.detaxcanada.org/drivers.htm
> Read it, Mr. Wittchen, you might learn something.
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In article ,
jenuths@homacjen.ab.ca wrote:
> In can.legal Noah  wrote:
> > Now, Mr. Jenuths, I repeat, was Caron *not* a citizen of Quebec?
> And I repeat, there is no such thing.  Certainly Caron was resident
> in Quebec, but that is pretty immaterial.
> Since the matter had to do with the interpretation of the BNA Act,
> it was decided on common law principles.
> Provincial law (and for that matter federal law) does not effect
> the manner in which the constitution is interpretted.
> The constitution is supreme, and other laws (like Quebec civil
> code)
> are allowed only because of the constitution.
> >  If
> > so, then Caron was under an entirely different *code* of law
> than the
> > rest of Canada.
> In the same way, you are under a different code of law than I.  I
> am
> in Alberta, you are in Ontario.  Earlier this week when I was in
> Toronto,
> I was under a different code of law than I am now.
> They all have similarities and differences.
> > You said that the Privy Council ruling applied to
> > *everyone* in Canada.
> Yup.  That is the decision of the highest court.  It binds
> everyone.
> > Then, are you not saying that 9/10s of the
> > country's total citizens can be held accountable upon a ruling
> brought
> > down by a court that, obviously, had to take into account the
> civil
> > code, in order to be fair to Caron, no?
> Why?
> It had nothing to do with the civil code.  It was simply to do with
> the interpretation of the constitution.
> >  Or did Caron, because he was a
> > "provincial officer" lose his right to be tried by a court of
> > competency?
> What is a court of competency?

In my unlearned view, it means a court that is competent to preside. In
other words, the FCTD could not be considered competent to rule on a
constitutional matter. Conversely, the provincial courts could not be
considered competent to rule on an income tax matter; withstanding the
criminal element being entwined in the matter.

Noah
> > In other words, did the Privy Council pay no attention to
> > the civil code in the case?
> Yes, they paid no attention to the civil code, nor the writings
> of Darwin.
> --
> Best regards,
> Stephen Jenuth
> (jenuths@homacjen.ab.ca)
> Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.



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In article <11f733ec.c808c45c@usw-ex0101-005.remarq.com>, Eldon Warman
 wrote:
> (Doug Bissett) wrote:
> > As much as I hate to get involved with this rant, I must point
> out
> > that the government of Canada, is NOT an imposter.

> Comment:  I beg to differ.  I have positive proof that I can send
> you

Oh good!  Can you send by email?  If so, then send to
garmec@my-deja.com thank you.

Noah

> showing that the Parliament of Canada never had the authority to
> usurp
> power as the Government of Canada.  From 1967 to 1931, the
> parliament
> of Canada was an organization under the British Board of Trade and
> under the direct control of the emminent domain in Canada, the
> corporation sole known as the Governor General. Parliament was
> never
> incorporated as an entity apart and separate from the fiction
> called
> the Governor General. It still is not a person.  That is why all
> lawsuits from the Government originate in the Queen - who herself
> is an
> IMPOSTOR monarch in Canada. Section #2(1) of the Statute of
> Westminster
> relieved the Monarch of Great Britain of ALL sovereign authority
> over
> Canada.
> > They are in power, because the citizen's of Canada chose to elect
> > them to run the country for them.
> Comment: WRONG! NO CANADIAN CITIZEN has voted for Parliament, or a
> Provincial Legislature since 1931. Remember, (of course you
> wouldn't)
> voting registration came into being in 1932. Voter registration is
> in
> fact "joining the club". Just as do people who wish to vote for the
> national officers of the Kiwinis Club have to be members, so do
> people
> who wish to vote for the club (remember, it is not a lawful
> incorporated body politic) called Parliament.
> > Unfortunately, the MAJORITY of citizen's of Canada seem
> > to have no idea about what kind of havoc the government is
> creating,
> > and they continue to elect idiots who seem to think that huge
> debts,
> > and unfunded liabilities, are not a problem, and that "they"
> > can "fix" all of the countries woes by spending more money.
>  Comment: The People of Wetaskiwin vs Milton Littlechild MP in
> 1991 was
> positive proof that the People have absolutely no say as to what
> MP's
> do after they are elected. As a fictional fiction, they are
> untouchable
> by those who elect them. You elect a crew to man a ship. Once the
> ship
> sets sail, the voters have absolutely no more control over those
> crewmembers until the crew gets back on land. (next election).
> > As the old chinese proverb says: "Be careful about what you ask
> > for, you might just get it". The people of Canada asked for, and
> got,
> > the government that they elected. The electorate, also seems to
> think
> > that the government is doing the right thing, and they keep on
> > electing the same one.
> Comment: The Club of Parliament's owners (Privy Council - all
> connected
> to the Rothchild Empire) select all candidates that matter. So, the
> choises are between Eeny, Meany, Miney or Moe.  Same bullshit,
> different pile!
> Eldon Warman
> Detax Author and Consultant
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In article ,
jenuths@homacjen.ab.ca wrote:
> In can.legal Noah  wrote:
> >> What is a court of competency?
> > In my unlearned view, it means a court that is competent to
> preside. In
> > other words, the FCTD could not be considered competent to rule
> on a
> > constitutional matter.
> And why would that be?
> Clearly the Federal Court and the Supreme Court of Canada disagree.

Huh???? Okay, so which disagreed:  the SCC with a FC ruling, or the FC
with a SCC ruling?

> Do you have any reason to suggest otherwise?
> > Conversely, the provincial courts could not be
> > considered competent to rule on an income tax matter;
> withstanding the
> > criminal element being entwined in the matter.

> Only because until recently they did not have the jurisdiction to
> entertain suits against the federal crown (this was part of the
> federal courts jurisdiction).

And, how did the jurisdiction become loosed from the FC?  For what
reasons?

> Of course, when hearing a criminal matter, they could certainly
> consider whether the legislation is unconstitutional.
> Usually it would be done by challenging the information at an
> early stage (ie. before plea).
> --
> Best regards,
> Stephen Jenuth
> (jenuths@homacjen.ab.ca)
> Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.



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Wonderful! Now we have a professed *expert* on constitutional law,
within our group. This is fantastic, for now we'll be able to focus-in
on the real essence of many of the consternations brought-forth in this
forum. Now, sir, I am led to believe that you are also a historian on
the very subject. Assuming this be true, then perhaps you can elaborate
on how a "finance bill", which did not meet Parliamentary procedures of
the day, end up being viewed, *lawfully*, by the justices of the
courts, as the constitution of Canada?

I recently read a very intriguing treatise, wherein the author contends
that the BNA Act was nothing more than a *blue print* for the
Governor-General to rule the colonies known as New Brunswick, Nova
Scotia, Upper Canada, and Lower Canada, on behalf of HMG. I'm curious
to know how a constitutional law expert might rebut such an outlandish
convention.

One of the other startling things I discovered, reading this work, was
there is published evidence supporting the fact that the
Governor-General's office was created in a fraudulent way. Why? Because
the William Lyon McKenzie King had no lawful authority to sign the
Letters Patent on behalf of HMK. So, unless you have incontrovertible
evidence to the contrary, the Governor-General's office was created at
the whim of Canada's CEO at the time, nothing more, IMHO.  With all due
respect, sir, did you learn the antithesis to *that* wild 'n' crazy
notion, in your studies?  If so, I am sure that more than I would be
utterly fascinated with the report.


Noah




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Yippee Ki yay!  We now have a "learned" man who is beginning to see
through different glasses. This is so re-freshing, it almost takes my
breath away ;-)

Paul, I have a question:  this Caron thing really bothers me. Jenuths
and I have been going head-to-head on Caron for sometime. I'm of the
view that the SCC erred in its decision, in Caron, by simply giving a
vice-versa ruling. I also contend that because the court used the
expressive:  "provincial officer" in its ruling, that the ruling could
only apply to provincial officers. But Jenuths is trying, admirally I
might add, to show me the errors of my contention.  I am not a lawyer,
but I do know the basic principles of law. My understanding of those
principles leads me to remain steadfast in my beliefs that the Caron
case being used as a crutch by the feds, in income tax matters, is
purely political, and *not* what one might deem to be
"purity-in-justice".  No system of justice, could lawfully deem itself
so, when the court hold bias toward the defendant. Bias is produced,
IMHO, the moment the defendant states s/he is not such a person as
ruled by the court and the court says, "Sorry, even though you are not
a provincial officer, or a person as the ruling was intended to be
applied to, the ruling still applies to you."  Seems a bit draconian,
IMHO.  This is why I asked, in an earlier post, what was the very next
time the Caron ruling was referred to, in *any* court?  I'm curious to
learn how the sitting justices managed to work their respective ways
through the mine-field, when the defense argued, "My Lords, my client
is not a provincial officer. Therefore, we need to establish, once and
for all, that this particular ruling applies to all residents of the
Dominion, and not just to those that are officers of our governments." 
That is the case, I'm interested in reviewing. Do you know the case? 
If someone would be good enough to post it, then we could all debate
the essence and see what a more-modern court might rule. The challenge
we have with Caron is that the Privy Council, as I have stated before,
ceased to exist in 1949. Nothwithstanding that the SCC became the
supreme court of the land, I believe the court is reluctant to re-visit
the case; if, indeed, it has the authority to do so.

Noah





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In article <381A698F.1557@direct.ca>, Randy Wittchen
 wrote:
> Hi Noah
> Noah wrote:
> >
> > Wonderful! Now we have a professed *expert* on constitutional
> law,
> > within our group. This is fantastic, for now we'll be able to
> focus-in
> > on the real essence of many of the consternations brought-forth
> in this
> > forum. Now, sir, I am led to believe that you are also a
> historian on
> > the very subject. Assuming this be true, then perhaps you can
> elaborate
> > on how a "finance bill", which did not meet Parliamentary
> procedures of
> > the day, end up being viewed, *lawfully*, by the justices of the
> > courts, as the constitution of Canada?
> >
> > I recently read a very intriguing treatise, wherein the author
> contends
> > that the BNA Act was nothing more than a *blue print* for the
> > Governor-General to rule the colonies known as New Brunswick,
> Nova
> > Scotia, Upper Canada, and Lower Canada, on behalf of HMG. I'm
> curious
> > to know how a constitutional law expert might rebut such an
> outlandish
> > convention.
> >
> > One of the other startling things I discovered, reading this
> work, was
> > there is published evidence supporting the fact that the
> > Governor-General's office was created in a fraudulent way. Why?
> Because
> > the William Lyon McKenzie King had no lawful authority to sign
> the
> > Letters Patent on behalf of HMK. So, unless you have
> incontrovertible
> > evidence to the contrary, the Governor-General's office was
> created at
> > the whim of Canada's CEO at the time, nothing more, IMHO.  With
> all due
> > respect, sir, did you learn the antithesis to *that* wild 'n'
> crazy
> > notion, in your studies?  If so, I am sure that more than I
> would be
> > utterly fascinated with the report.
> >
> > Noah

> Hi
> You, like many people, do not seem to realize that our
> constitution does
> not simply consist

The proper word, IMHO, is exist, not consist. Canada has no
constitution. As a lawyer you should know that, for even the court
identifies the so-called constitution, as a *statute* of the Imperial
Parliament. Many countries have statutes, but yet the people have a
constitution. Recently I had the pleasure of reviewing a constitution
for a peoples. It was a wonderful read. The surprising part is that
these "peoples" only number 9200!  By the way, just so the ng knows,
these peoples were not a country, but a province of a former British
dependent.  Seems Her Majesty thought fit the people of this tiny
island to have a true constitution, but was not so easily "amused" by
the antics of the PM who was hell-bent-for-election to bring Canada's
home. I have spoken with one of their Government Ministers on other
matters. When asked why the people of the *province* of their country
were fortunate to have such a good constitution, his reply to me was
that they bloody well fought for it. Fight for rights?  Canadians? 
Naw!  As the Red Rose Tea commercial became famous for the quote: "Only
in Canader you say? Pity."

 of the BNA Act, 1867 and amendments (now the
> Constituion Act, 1867 and of various dates) which are Imperial
> statutes
> but includes a number of other Imperial statutes and imperial
> orders in
> council as well as various Canadian statutes, precedential case law
> interpreting the statutes and conventions.  A good part of our
> constitution is unwritten which is in keeping with the preamble to
> the
> BNA Act, 1867 which adopts ... "a Constitution similar in
> Principle to
> that of the United Kingdom."

Yes that is so. However, according to Article XX (I believe it is XX)
of the United Nations Charter, Canada had no rhyme or reason, nay,
lawful right, to maintain such a "keeping with the preamble", for such
*keeping* was in contravention of the convention of sovereignty, so
said the Charter. That is why, sir, the *new* Article was incorporated
within the UN Charter in 1988; to remedy the offending by Canada and
the mother country, against the people of Canada with every single
statute which was passed by the Parliament requiring the Royal Assent. 
Now, I know that you have accused Noah of posting trash, but I am not
Noah. So, counsellor, shall we have a go? I so much enjoy a good joust.

> There are no rules for appointing a Governor General (it was
> assumed
> that it would be done by the monarch acting on the advice of the
> British
> Colonial Secretary

correct.

and this has eveolved in practise to the monrch
> acting on the advice of the canadian Prime Minister)

under what colour of right of law is such a practise evolved, sir?

, there is no
> mention of responsible (i.e. Cabinet) government so no mention of a
> Prime Minister

correct. In fact, the very first time the words "Prime Minister"
appear, in the so-called constitution, is in the 1982 version.

or Cabinet or that a government's power depended
> upon its
> support by the majority in the House of Commons and until 1949 the
> Judicial Committee of the Privy Council in the House of Lords were
> the
> final appellate authority but they are no where mentioned

correct again

and
> until 1982
> civil liberties were left to be protected by the legislatures and
> rules

By George, you must be one of those fellas they call a "federalist".
Civil liberties are still wholely contained within section 92 of the
British North America Act, 1867 and cannot be removed; not even by
constitutional amendment, IMHO.  That would be enlarging the
jurisdictional sphere of the Dominion, which, according to [1951]
S.C.R. 31, [1948] 4 D.L.R. 1, and [1950] 4 D.L.R. 369 is a feat which
simply cannot be accomplished without offending the constitution.
Further, it is settled law that the Federal Government has no lawful
authority to amend the constitution without the blessings of *all* the
provinces. Now, if you can point me to the document ratifying the
constitution *by all* ten (10) Premiers, then I can start to learn to
respect your knowledge. Until then, do be a good chap and not mislead
the ng.

> of common law until the enactment and entrenchment of the Charter.


> It sounds like fantasy to me since the BNA Act was drafted here

actually, sir, I beg to differ:  it is a well-known fact that the
London Conference was the considered authority at the tabling of the
bill. Otherwise, there would have been no changes allowed to the Quebec
Resolutions. After all, the proposal was to be the "constitution" of
some 4 million people, wasn't it?  Surely, no one would dare slip in
the odd thing, here and there, without the approval of *all* the
architects. IMHO, that's why the London Conference became the
bed-of-conception.  To put it bluntly, the Quebec Conference was mere
foreplay. Did you not say so, yourself, that it was a "made in Canada"
proposition?  With all due respect to your expertise in constitutional
law, matters and history, the British North America finance bill may
have been *conceived* in the colonies, but I respectfully submit that
it was *born* in London, and got its first slap-of-life in the United
Kingdom House of Commons. Surely with all your constitutional history
studies, that simple reality must have surfaced somewhere?  Did it not?

Now, sir, you have mentioned a number of authorities on the topic. I
presume, then, that you show no prejudice or distain for Lord
Halsbury's great works:  Halsbury's Laws of England. I was fascinated
to learn *how* Canada evolved. But, what really intrigued me was that
the Imperial Parliament did not create any statute to allow Canada to
break away. I was wondering if you would care to bestow upon us - not
just me, heaven forbid - your pearls-of-wisdom, regarding *why* the
U.K. Parliament did not enact a statute to give Canada her boot "out of
the nest", so to speak?

> after a
> series of meetings between the representatives of the British North
> America colonies - Upper and Lower Canada, Prince Edward Island,
> Nova
> Scotia and New Brunswick although PEI backed out and did not enter
> Confederation until 1873.  They then forwarded the draft BNA Act
> to the
> Colonial Office to be put before the UK Parliament for passage to
> create
> a federal union known as the Dominion of Canada.

Ah yes, the Union.  Such a difficult convention to achieve. Funny
thing, history tells us that they were actually arguing over whether to
call it the Dominion of, or the Kingdom of.  But, I have a question, if
you will allow, does not a Union imply the joining together of several
parts?  And, when was such a convention realized by Canada?  Not to
this day.
So, while it may be a fact that the *dominion* of Canada became thus,
as a result of the BNA Act, there can be little doubt that the Union,
so much sought after by Sir John A. McDonald, was never to become a
reality. While Sir John had visions of being the king of his own little
country, there was not such a welcomed convention by the provinces.  By
reviewing the Fourth Earl of Carnarvon's speeches, one can readily see
that the representatives ofthe provinces were not so easy to
toe-the-line, as Sir John had anticipated.  This is why the provinces
saw to it that the Dominion would have the "residuum" of power, not the
paramountcy.

Now, I'm sure that you sir, as a federalist, probably guffaw at such
trivia; but, as Eldon Warman stated, the Board of Trade had much to do
with the *coming together* of the Canadas. As such, the law of contract
was clearly invoked. Read the damn BNA Act again, if you wish,
especially the *concessions* of the provinces to the Dominion. That
sir, represents, the *exchange*. In order to have an exchange, a
contract ezists. Recalling your constitutional history lessons, I
believe you will remember that the "British North America bill" was
tabled as a "finance bill", yes?  That being the case, then why would
you not think that it would incorporate some form of contract?  You
have charged that Eldon and Noah promulgate incoherent ramblings;
perhaps, it is more likely they - and others of like mind - see things
differently, because of their not being indoctrinated with the
federalistic slant on matters. Professor Hogg is a classic example of
that federalistic view.

It was
> definitely a
> made in Canada solution.

And, what is the significance of that, praytell?

> The office of Governor General is referred to in the BNA Act, 1867
> with
> executive power declared to be continued and vested in the Queen
> and her
> powers exercised by a "Governor General" as her personal
> representative.

> The office itself is created not by statute but by Letters Patent
> from
> the monarch

And, why is that sir?

with the latest being dated October 1947.  Up to 1947
> Letters Patent only vested certain prerogative powers in the GG
> with the
> rest being reserved to the Monarch and they contained detailed
> instructions on how the prerogative powers were to be exercised.
> In
> 1947 this changed with a deletion of instructions and all the
> prerogative powers of the monarch were passed over to the GG to be
> exercised on the advice of the Privy Council... "or any members
> thereof
> or individually as the case requires"... which most means the
> Cabinet or
> most often the Prime Minister under our system of responsible
> government.  The 1947 Letters Patent were signed by the reigning
> monarch
> according to the reproductions I have seen.

What reproductions have you seen?  The copy I have obtained, directly
>from England, shows the sign-off:

ON BEHALF OF HIS MAJESTY



WILLIAM LYON MCKENZIE KING

As Noah posted, the PM had no lawful authority to present fraudulent
Letters Patent to the House of Commons in Canada. As I state herein,
the signing of the Lord Chancellor invests the power of the Letters
Patent. Without the Lord Chancellor's signature, the Letters Patent is
nothing more than a "wish list".  Therefore, without the Lord
Chancellor's signature and Seal, how can a Letters Patent be?  We must
remember, now, this was 1947. Gee, that would mean that Canada,
notwithstanding that the Statute of Westminster had been enacted 16
years earlier, was still under the British "thumb", so to speak. As
such, the "rules" of England would still apply, would they not?

I tend to favour the
> views
> of Peter Hogg, Ron Cheffins, Bill Lederman, Eugene Forsey, R.M.
> Dawson,
> Elmer Driedger,

No doubt, in my mind, that you would. However, Elmer's work,
"Construction of Statutes" is a very fine piece of reference material.
Tell me, sir, have you read Fortunatas's version of the same subject? 
Fascinating, I assure you.  Alas, it is rare that our judiciary *fails*
to read the statutes as Elmer felt they should be read. Otherwise, 75%
of the topic, in this ng, would not need to exist.

Gerald La Forest, Bora Laskin, D.V. Smiley, K.C
> Wheare
> et al. who are well respected and renowned constiututional
> scholars and
> in most cases constituional lawyers.  If you want to learn about
> the
> Canadian constituion read these authors.

I repeat, what constitution?  There may be a facsimile of a
constitution, but a guality constitution is not a mere facsimile of
another country, nor is it a statute of a government. It cannot be, for
the very purpose of the constitution is to protect the people from a
government that looks upon enacting statutes, very much the same way as
some business people do their banking in the chequebook banking
fashion, IMHO. To say that one particular statute, if offended by
another statute, created by the same entity is the epitome of a farce
of the entire premise of the convention of constitutionality, and a
grave injustice upon the people effected by that injustice, IMHO. 
Whatever constitution that Canada has, belongs to the people; it does
not belong to either the Federal Government or the Provincial
Legislatures. That is settled law; much to the chagrin of the
federalist. According to Chief Justice Rinfret, in the Bill 136 case,
back in the '50's, "... it is there (speaking of the constitution) that
the people will find the protection..."

> Cite the treatise, the author and where it can be found and I will
> have
> a look at it to determine if there is any validity to the thesis.

> I
> would be most surprised if there is.

Would you now?  The treatise was written from the culmination of more
than 3000 man-hours of research of more than 25,000 pages of
documentation. I know, I was one of the researchers for the work. Just
out of curiosity, sir, did you learn how to interpret the first page of
the British North America Act, 1867?  You know, the page that sets
forth the actual enacting provision of the statute itself?  What I
found most-perculiar was that it was the interests of the provinces
that were paramount, not the Dominion's as I was taught in school. As I
am not one of those so-called conspiracy thinkers, to this day, I
cannot, for the life of me, understand why the first page was "lost"
for such a very, very, very long time.... curious, that.

There are all sorts of loony
> interpretations out there as seen from the materials cited by
> Eldon and
> they seem to proliferate on the internet.
> I am not here for your education nor edification so if you want
> answers

No disrepect intended sir, for I have no formal knowledge of your
credentials, but as for me and my faculties, I am actually grateful for
your statement; for, it would appear, IMHO, that you are so caught up
in your own arrogance, that you cannot see the forest for the trees.
You seem resolute in your thinking and that is quite evident. Tell me,
do you have visions of *sitting* on the bench in your future, or are
you, perhaps, in training to become a Crown Prosecutor?

With all due respect, I suggest you do you own research; indeed, sir.
And, if I might suggest, you would do well to heed your own words. Do
not come onto a ng stating things which you choose not to back up with
incontrovertible evidence, as Noah respectfully suggested; especially
since you are a professed expert. Some reader might think that you are
absolutely right, when you could be dead-wrong.  We are all entitled to
our opinions. Expressing them in a forum, such as this, gives each of
us the opportunity to ascertain what is the truth and what is fiction;
either is *news* as I see it.

If I see something posted with
> which
> I decide to take issue I will do so.

As you can tell, so shall I.

However based on what I have
> seen
> of your posts to date I will likely simply ignore them for the
> most part
> as incoherent ramblings.

My my my.  Somebody must have had razor-blades for breakfast. Or is the
ignoble mind always this arrogant to those less-endowed with knowledge?

Chev.


> Randy Wittchen



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Noah wrote:
Eldon previously wrote:
> > Mr. Mains has lawfully voided a fraudulent contract by
> > constructive notice and has benefitted from tacit concent and
> > default.
> Huhhh?  "...lawfully voided a fraudulent contract by constructive
> notice...? What's this constructive notice thing? How and *why*
> does it work?  Why does the notice have to be recognized by the other
> party? Couldn't they simply ignore it and look upon it as *frivolous*?
> Noah

Comment: A "constructive notice" is a personally directed trespass
warning. A fraud is a trespass. Common Law requires a trespass warning
be served upon a trespasser (if time permits). This is one of the
restrictions anciently placed on the right of self defense. This is the
mercy requirement and chance for repentence by the offender from
Hebrew/Jesuonian (Christian) concepts. A proper answer in law when a
trespass warning is posted is for the suspected trespasser to either
respect the "stop order" or go to the public forum of the court to
prove that no trespass is actually taking place.

For my proposed constructive notice to detax, the Minister of National
Revenue would have to initiate a court action to prove that a "good"
contract is in place which converted you from a natural person into a
legal entity. Since there clearly is fraud in all aspects of a contract
in the supposed "taxpayer" contract, that proof would be an
impossibility.  20 legal days or 30 calendar days is the accepted
standard of time required to refute a served trespass warning. If no
action is taken in that time frame, the constructive notice voiding the
contract makes it a done deal. A default judgment could be recorded in
the court house; however, proof of the timing of service is usually
sufficient proof.


> > > public servant constitutes treason.
> Sorry Eldon, but you seem to be getting *very* deep here. What do
> you mean by that statement?

Comment: The older law dictionaries are clearer on common law rights.
(For obvious reasons). Treason means an uprising or disobedience of a
servant against the master, especially when the intent of the servant
is to undermine the sovereignty of the master, or worse, to help some
other person overthrow his master and put the original master into
servitude or cause his death. "Constructive" means that an act fits
within the definition of an unlawful act even though that version of
the unlawful act may not have been addressed by specific statute.

> Further, how does the sovereign, as you say, provide prima facie
evidence that the system of law is foreign to him/her? Very intriguing
convention, I must say.
> Noah

Comment:  The Magna Carta is a prime example of the defining the
difference between a foreign law and the anglo-saxon common law. Much
of the Magna Carta is actually "Pax Romina - Roman Law" stated, with a
"thou shalt not" added.  Don't let anyone snow you with "The Magna
Carta has been made obsolete by subsequent statutory law". That may be
the case for the Charter itself, however, Section 63 states (by the
King) that "the liberties, rights and concessions" of the Magna Carta
are forever". Forever is a word that puts you on the circumference of a
circle - there is no beginning, there is no end.

Blackstone's Commentaries is really a commentary on issues of common
law that have been usurped by this (Roman)foreign law. The reason Roman
Law crept into english law is because the City of London has always
remained a Roman City.  It is really the last bastion of the Roman
Empire. William the Conquer did not conquer London. The Magna Carta
addresses the issue that London was to maintain its laws (Roman Law).

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jenuths wrote:
Noah previously wrote:
> > There are certain "choses" the sovereign cannot simply say "let
> >it be so".  Letters Patent, appointing a GG is most-definitely on
> >the list.

> Sure it can.
> What part of Magna Carta says the Queen cannot appoint officials
> to act on her behalf.

Comment: Actually, one doesnt have to go back to the Magna Carta to
find evidence that the King didn't have that power:

The Colonial Laws Validity Act, June 29th, 1865 Sect.6 -
"Any proclamation purported to be published by the authority of thr
Governoe, circulating in any newspaper in the Colonies, signifying Her
Majesty's assentto any such Colonial lawor Her Majesty's disallowance
of any such reserved bill as aforesaid, shall be prima facie evidence
of such disallowance or assent."

Statute of Westminster, 1931 Section 2(1):
The Colonial Laws Validity Act, 1865, shall not apply to any law made
after the commencement of this Act by the Parliament of a Dominion.
Since the British Government did not recognize a bona fide (in truth -
for any who do not understand latin words used in law) Federal
Parliament in Canada, they added Section 7(2) replacing "Parliament of
a Dominion" with "Legislatures of such Provinces".

I know some of you "priests and lawyers" out there have reading
problems, so, what that means is that the Crown of Great Britain had
ALL their powers over the former Doninions revoked by the British
Parliament in 1931. ALL means TOTAL, EVERYTHING, IN ALL MATTERS.

For all you who seem to delight in calling me by invectives and
ephitets, may I suggest that you go to my GuestBook and read:
 http://www.theguestbook.com/vgbook/30272.gbook
I realize the peasants are an ignorant lot; however.....

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(Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
> "I think the white race is superior. However, the Talmud certainly
> teaches that Jews are superior ; and, that Jews don't have to
> honour any committments to 'goyim'."

Comment: The above quote of what I have written to Mr. McVay has
obviously been altered by him. I have never said "I think the white
race is superior".  This is a fabrication and the typical EVIL that one
finds in "damage control" deception artists of the Zionist camp.  Mr.
McVay is obviously one of the chief "smoke jumpers" for damage control.
The latter sentence, I certainly wholeheartedly believe as being true.

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"Daniel J. Lavigne" wrote:
> Individual rights and duties with respect to taxes and
> the need for societal cohesion and the need to support
> the common good should not be used as a playground
> for some to give vent to their personal beliefs with respect
> to religious / political conspiracies, brotherhoods etc.

Comment: Thank you for that advise. My comments about Jews and Zionists
is not based upon ancient hatreds or such. As a person with a Jewish
name, I am very concerned that there may well be a time in the near
future when the "angry mobs" may seek out ANYONE with what may even
appear to be a Jewish name as an immediate candidate for extermination.
I certainly am not the only such person with these concerns. The
webpage of "Jews For the Preservation of Firearms Ownership" and a full
page article in the Sept 27 McLeans Magazine express that concern.
My concerns are for my grandchildren.  I have faced death or had near
misses with death many, many times in my 59 years on planet Earth. That
doesn't worry me. My concerns truly are for my grandchildren and for
Canada.

Relative to my detax program, it is a "done deal". Others are now
posting it, and getting a handle on the depth of meaning as to common
law and common law rights. I am not in it as a commercial venture.  I
really am not into it as a crusade. I consider myself an educator.
Therefore, if no one accepts my program or thesis, I really could care
less.  I accept that one can lead a horse to water, but one cannot make
it drink.

And, I, like you obviously do, like a good philosophic "tussle" -
regardless the topic. No topic is "taboo" to me.

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(Lloyd Lindsay) wrote:
> No Mr. Warman, it is you who are boring, repetitive, inflammatory,
> and OFF TOPIC.
Comment:  If you notice, it was I who initiated this topic. You will
also note that the topic was turned back by McVay and his ilk to a
diversionary topic to obfuscate my topical discussions on the merit of
getting out of the Canadian Income Tax system. Why are you blameing me
for the sidetracking?

> Can you really discuss Canadian taxes rationally without your
> verbal diarrhea?

Comment: Verbal diarreha is necessary as Canadians are so ignorant of
their rights, and heritage in the common law. Plus, the arrogance of
those who have their brains inundated with hogwash from our
universities makes it doubly difficult to expound on a subject without
going back to the kindergarden level to begin a logical discussion.

> Perhaps you can discuss the merits of the Canadian Capital Cost
> Allowance system over the US depreciation system or whether current
> tax free travel allowances are adequate based on today's
> automobile costs.
> Or are the questions and answers regarding Canadian taxes too
> difficult for you to deal with?

Comment: Why would I discuss such, when I teach Canadians that the
Canadian Income Tax Act need be no more in their thoughts or in their
lives than the fish and game regulations of Borneo?

So instead, you MISUSE this News Group solely to espouse your
conspiracy theories and hatred for a specific ethnic group.

Comment: I don't *hate* any ethnic group. I maintain sincere
reservations about a religious belief structure that depends on
so-called Scripture which contains a great deal of hatred, especially
toward the beliefs of my ancestors. I'm not very fussy about a lot of
the *new age* crap either, but, I certainly don't find in that actual
statements of hatred against me. You see, I believe that the rights of
your fist stop at my nose. If it contacts my nose, you have gone beyond
your rights. If the statements written about the Talmud are true
regarding how Northern Europeans and Christians are to be treated by
Talmudists, the fist has impinged on my nose. If these supposed
statements are correct(I have not personally researched it beyond
reading the research of others - as any college student does), and,
those programs are being instituted by a sub-organization of Talmudists
(Zionists), I don't think the "ethnic group" wall of protection is
appropriate.

We, in Canada, have no lawful money, we have inadequate health care, we
are having our children slaughtered in abortion clinics, we have had
our justice system totally subverted and ruined, we have had our
government completely debauched, we have had the people divided into
semi-waring factions, and on, and on..   These plans are all outlined
in what the Zionists call a fraudulent anti-semitic document called The
Protocols.

> Well, if you can't discuss Canadian taxes in a rational way, I'll
> just set my filter to trash your messages and I'll never get to see
> them --- just like many other subscribers have already done.

Comment: Go ahead, If you wish to stick your head in the sand!
Just remember, though, when you do that, you are exposing other
vulnerable parts.

> When a few people began flaming a US Tax News Group, a moderated US
> Tax Group was formed where postings such as yours never get on.

Comment:  Interesting.  That sure sounds like you only wish to hear
what your propaganda machine wishes to tell you. Why don't you just
tune into Revenue Canada's webpages? They'll tell you all you wish to
know about income taxes.

> Now how about discussing the merits of a flat income tax or raising
> personal tax credits? Or is that too much to ask of you?

Comment: Void the voidable fraudulent contract which made you a legal
entity called a taxpayer; and, you don't need tax credits.

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From: Chev. 
Subject: Re: Caron v King (long response)
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Noah?  If I may assist:   Mr. Jenuths, I believe you are mistaken.  You
say they have both agreed, correct?  Under what lawful basis can they
do so?   Is not a provincial court, the recognized place for the
hearing of constitutional matters?  Yet, you state that both may hear
constitutional matters, of late.

Now, I do not know what law school you graduated from, but I dare say
that it was not from the same one that VISCOUNT HALDANE did; for, his
belief was the converse of yours.  For clarification, I have posted the
relevant statement, taken from [1921] 60 D.L.R. 513, wherein he
succinctly stated:

"For analogous reasons their Lordships think that sec. 101 of the
B.N.A. Act, which enables the Parliament of Canada, notwithstanding
anything in the Act,  to provide for the establishment of any
additional Courts for the better administration of the laws of Canada,
cannot be read as enabling that Parliament to trench on provincial
rights, such as the powers over property and civil rights in the
Provinces exclusively conferred on their Legislatures."

Now, Mr. Jenuths, is not the constitution the property of the people? 
How do you, as a learned legal mind, or any other lawyers of the ng,
explain how the Federal Court can hear such matters, when the Privy
Council, itself, stated - for the record - that "... s.101 of the BNA
Act cannot be read as enabling the Parliament to trench on provincial
rights..." as exclusively set forth in subject 14. of section 92 of the
Act; regardless of its current title.

Praytell, under what BNA section, does the Federal Court exercise such
trenching authority?  If either court excepted such encroachment as
being the norm, then I would say that either court is in contempt of
the Judicial Committee ruling and therefore, brings the administration
of justice into disrepute, IMHO. Further, were the SCC to accept such a
convention,then it is prima facie prove that the court, as of late,
rules by policy, as I had noticed that Noah had intimated in a much
earlier post.

Surely, any of you learned persons of the legal profession, cannot sit
there, at your keyboards, and condone such blatant disregard of the
constitution, can you?  If the courts can adopt such a cavalier
attitude towards one particular ruling of the J.C., then it should be
open-season for the SCC to visit any other J.C. ruling.  If the highest
court in the land - the Supreme Court of Canada - refuses to do so,
then the judiciary should be put on notice that it may be in for a hell
of a fight regarding prejudice and discrimination towards the people of
Canada, trying to abide by the law. If you are correct, in your
statements, then I fear that the people of Canada have been sorrowly
misrepresented, IMHO, by the judiciary. I, for one, would certainly
like to know when this *understanding* between the two courts developed.

BTW Noah, keep the questions coming, its the only way any of us are
going to learn what is truth and what is fiction.


Chev.



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From: Chev. 
Subject: Re: Tax protestors
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Mr. Lavigne:  Sorry to disappoint you, but that thinking does not apply
to Requirements To Pay. I should know, I have had over $700,000 worth
of them issued against me and companies I am a director of. According
to the Criminal Code of Canada, "money" is defined as *property*.  When
RevCan or the IRS seizes a bank account, they are not seizing the
accoutn, but rather instructing the Debtor (the bank, etc.) to convey
to itself as third party, assets that would normally be paid to the
Creditor (the one accused); all this, with blatant contempt for the
principle of law which is enshrined within the premise of *due process*.
Were you or I, or even the poster to even attempt to effect such
unlawful act, we would be charged with extortion, theft, or conversion.
Apparently, neither the IRS or RevSCAM are afraid of such charges being
accepted by a member of the court, so both simply conduct the unlawful
practice, because no magistrate is going to oppose either.

Chev.




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From garmecNOgaSPAM@my-deja.com.invalid Mon Nov  1 02:14:42 EST 1999
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From: Noah 
Subject: Re: Citizen's Arrest on Alberta judge
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Truth is, I cannot not lay claim to the "story", As I have told you,
the "release" is not mine. In the interest of privacy, I purposefully
left-off the contact party. What I find very intriguing is that the
*story* has not hit the media. Guess the author was right. Perhaps
someone could go to the courthouse and review the transcript tape for
the session. Then we'd know who's telling the truth. As I do not live
in Alberta, it is not likely to be me.  BTW, the author is David
Lindsay. There there, now; no need for any of you to exercise hare-kari
any longer. ;-)

Noah



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From egwarmanNOegSPAM@hotmail.com.invalid Mon Nov  1 02:14:42 EST 1999
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From: Eldon Warman 
Subject: Re: Citizen's Arrest on Alberta judge (link)
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"David M. Sherman" wrote:

> I found interesting the line: "He was arrested for obstruction
> of justice. Wishewan showed up at the scene and informed Lindsay he
> was his legal counsel." Since it appears that Wishewan is not in fact
> a lawyer (he's not in the Canadian Law List, and his actions as
> reported certainly suggest that he's not!), I would imagine that's
> an offence under the Alberta Law Society Act, or whatever the
> equivalent statute is.

Comment:  Sorry David. The law society act only applies to "dead"
persons or fictions. The Common Law forbids a "fiction" or "dead"
person  from exposing or expositing on the law. The law is for truth
and living human beings. ALL lawyers are operating in the "Fiction" -
and most obviously are "Brain dead".

Mr. Wishewan is a sovereign natural human being LIVING in Alberta. He
has absolute right to DO law - he doesn't have to "practise".

Eldon Warman
Detax Author and Consultant


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Subject: Re: Citizen's Arrest on Alberta judge
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Keith,
 You may be correct that an "actual" or "express" notice may be a more
correct instrument to stop a trespass; however, a "constructive "
notice seems to be more in the nature of my "I believe" approach to the
nullification of the "taxpayer" fraudulent contract. Since "actual"
requires hard evidence of a wrong, and my program approaches the fraud
as a perceivesd fraud according to understandings and beliefs, the time
period for a proper answer is provided for the wrong doer to commence
court action to prove that the contract is "good". Failure to respond
with such a proper answer then results in a default voiding of the
claimed to be fraudulent contract.

You quote a lot of old common law precepts; however, the common law
was/is based upon common folks being able to know and do the law
without aid of highly educated lawyers - that ability being based upon
the negative golden rule. The inticacies about which you refer have
obviously crept into the common law interpretations as lawyers grabbed
more and more control of the justice system. Sure, a lot more people
are educated somewhat more in reading and writing ability than were
people 500 years ago; however, most people still do not grasp
complicated law issues - and shouldn't have to.

Also, the law and the justice system should not be complicated or
difficult to understand. The fact that lawyers have made it so is a
travesty of common law rights i and of itself.  It is not what
politicians (usually lawyers), judges (now all lawyers) and lawyers
want law and society to be, it is what the People want it to be.  I
assure you, what we have in Canada today is NOT what the Canadian
People want. Nor, is it what they are going to settle for in the future.

Eldon Warman


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From: Eldon Warman 
Subject: Re: Back To Canadian Income Taxes
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"David Smith" wrote:
> Eldon,
> Prove to the members of this newsgroup that your de-tax program
> works. Let's hear some testimonials from your abundant following.

Comment: Go to my GuestBook at: 
http://www.theguestbook.com/vgbook/30272.gbook

Best I can do at the moment.
I really don't care if anyone uses or believes in my detax program. I
have not posted it for commercial purposes. Detaxing falls within the
same catagory as being born or dying, you must do it yourself. I have
maintained my status as a sovereign natural person relative to the
income tax since 1985. Works for me. Whether anyone else wishes to use
it is entirely up to them. And, of course, I am not about to post a
bunch of names of people who expect privacy and confidentiality.

Eldon Warman
http://www.detaxcanada.org


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