From: firstname.lastname@example.org (Harry W. Mazal OBE) Newsgroups: alt.politics.usa.congress,alt.politics.usa.constitution,alt.politics.usa.misc,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.radio.talk,alt.radio.uk,alt.radio.talk-radio,alt.president.clinton,alt.punk,alt.revisionism,alt.rush-limbaugh,fido7.human-rights,general,misc.survivalism,talk.politics.guns,talk.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.misc,talk.religion.misc Subject: Re: MEDIA WHORE ASKS ABOUT BLACK HELICOPTERS Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 23:24:50 GMT Organization: Internet Direct, Incorporated Lines: 109 Message-ID: <email@example.com> References: <33351E97.firstname.lastname@example.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: testigo.nizkor.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.0/32.390 Xref: news.voyager.net alt.politics.usa.congress:41239 alt.politics.usa.constitution:104288 alt.politics.usa.misc:133363 alt.politics.usa.republican:373972 alt.radio.talk:4954 alt.radio.uk:7228 alt.president.clinton:106169 alt.punk:112433 alt.revisionism:107583 alt.rush-limbaugh:81570 misc.survivalism:38333 talk.politics.guns:278695 talk.politics.libertarian:186248 talk.politics.misc:423623 talk.religion.misc:143029 On Sun, 23 Mar 1997 04:14:15 -0800, "Dr. Linda Thompson"
wrote: >AEN News >Linda Thompson >Black Helicopters >Response to yet another media whore doing yet another propaganda piece [balance of Ms Thompsons paranoid delusions deleted] One cannot but be perplexed. It was only a few brief months ago that this paragon of Waco (note that I did _not_ say 'wacko'_) defense convulsed us all when she wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FROM LINDA THOMPSON via Loz Schoenfelder on Compuserve: BEGIN: This will be my last post on internet. Do not send me any more mail. Takeme off whatever list you have me on. Do not ask me for anything, period.Yes, this means you. I won't read it, I won't reply to it. I have gotten my last letter from paid operatives, circulated five hundred times by the hopelessly stupid. I have seen the last "PROOF" that "Waco happened some OTHER way, so long as it's 'negligence' by the government and not murder, or so long as it's a "screw up" by anyone but who did it: MERCENARIES AND SPECIAL OPERATIONS TROOP -- with all these bullshit, lying "WONDERFUL" tapes having the amazing common denominator of being put out by the VERY people who were involved in the murders and massive propaganda efforts, and ALWAYS connected to Soldier of Fortune. Just a coincidence. The latest piece of government-sponsored bullshit is going to "air" at the Sundance film festival. Doubtlessly, it will be ballyhooed in the press. This, of course, will be the "ultimate" proof and truth. I've already heard at least two ninnies talking about it, even AFTER the authors were exposed before it was even finished. If you're so damned STUPID that you don't notice that the two most important and truthful works on Waco were totally ignored, while the media has ballyhooed, in some way, every sponsored version, then God have mercy on your stupid ass. I have waded through my last "READ THIS! SOVEREIGN TRUTH!" propaganda malarky about licenses and the U.C.C., droning endlessly boring nonsense for pages. I've been confronted by my last knuckle-dragger who wants me to wade through the morass for them, page by page, and prove why it's junk, or call me names when I won't do it for him. No thanks. I've bankrupted my family, I've wasted and missed the last four years of my kids' growing up, I've been beaten, shot at, stolen from, for absolutely not one damned thing. I've been called every name in the book, in public, and watched patriots make sure THEY weren't treated like that as they adopted a safe fence-straddle somewhere. I can't go in the downtown courthouse without being attacked. All because I wanted to put out the truth about Waco, three years ago. The truth is just as buried as it ever was, and now, I am, too. I'm done. I am shutting up and shutting down. And no, I don't expect to see a single damned soul do anything for anybody. The internet should, by rights, have intelligent people on it. It does, indeed, have a lot of intelligence, but not too many bright folks, from the looks of things. Kind regards, Linda Thompson END >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Curious minds want to know: 1) Was the above note an authentic posting by Ms Thompson, or was it a forgery? Forgeries abound on the 'Net, so perhaps Ms Thompson would kindly illuminate us. 2) If Ms Thompson was, in truth, the author, why has she come back? Does she want to miss the next four years of her children growing up? Or is she willing to bankrupt her family even further? Very odd indeed. 3) She told us clearly [given that the letter is not a forgery]: "I'm done. I am shutting up and shutting down." Promises, promises... 4) If there are no intelligent people on the Internet, does her newly discovered presence on the 'Net tell us anything? Harry W. Mazal OBE Nizkor (USA) An Electronic Holocaust Educational Resource Over 1000 Megs of data: http://www.nizkor.org Europe: ftp://nizkor.iam.uni-bonn.de/pub/nizkor/ Nizkor Web: http://www.nizkor.org (Under construction - permanently!) No e-mail replies, please. All e-mails will be treated as public disclosures. From: "Dr. Linda Thompson" Newsgroups: alt.politics.usa.congress,alt.politics.usa.constitution,alt.politics.usa.misc,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.radio.talk,alt.radio.uk,alt.radio.talk-radio,alt.president.clinton,alt.punk,alt.revisionism,alt.rush-limbaugh,fido7.human-rights,general,misc.survivalism,talk.politics.guns,talk.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.misc,talk.religion.misc Subject: Re: MEDIA WHORE ASKS ABOUT BLACK HELICOPTERS Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 04:30:06 -0800 Organization: American Justice Federation Lines: 282 Message-ID: <333E5CCE.1BF7@iquest.net> References: <33351E97.email@example.com> <firstname.lastname@example.org> Reply-To: email@example.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ind-0000-20.iquest.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I) To: "Harry W. Mazal OBE" Xref: news.voyager.net alt.politics.usa.congress:41398 alt.politics.usa.constitution:104451 alt.politics.usa.misc:133509 alt.politics.usa.republican:374627 alt.radio.talk:4998 alt.radio.uk:7232 alt.president.clinton:106324 alt.punk:112637 alt.revisionism:107719 alt.rush-limbaugh:81797 misc.survivalism:38397 talk.politics.guns:279249 talk.politics.libertarian:186735 talk.politics.misc:424382 talk.religion.misc:143286 Harry W. Mazal OBE wrote: > > On Sun, 23 Mar 1997 04:14:15 -0800, "Dr. Linda Thompson" > wrote: > > >AEN News > >Linda Thompson > >Black Helicopters > >Response to yet another media whore doing yet another propaganda piece > > [balance of Ms Thompsons paranoid delusions deleted] > > One cannot but be perplexed. It was only a few brief months ago that You would not be perplexed if you would read carefully and follow up on the cited sources. You can easily pick up the telephone, obtain telephone numbers, and make a few inquiries. Are you also a DOD employee, like Ken McVay, who runs Nizkor? That would explain why you would not want to requote the post, but instead, attempt to change the subject. I post the message again for your edification. AEN News Linda Thompson Black Helicopters Response to yet another media whore doing yet another propaganda piece There is nothing cosmic, paranormal, or ethereal about black helicopters. They belong to the U.S. military, 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment, based in Ft. Cambell, Kentucky, in Hopkinsville, KY. They park many of the helicopters at different locations where they are used, however. The only reason the color black is significant is that only this one military unit gets this particular type of paint for its helicopters, the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment ("160th SOAR") in Ft. Campbell, Kentucky. The paint is called "CARC" and it is used because it is chemically resistant and non-radar reflective. Other military units do get this paint for use on airplanes and other craft, except helicopters, however. If you look at military webpages of aircraft, you will find plenty of pictures. The 160th SOAR is a military special operations unit that began as an intentionally covert, illicit and illegal arm of what was formerly called "Delta Force," which was a branch of 5th Group, Special Forces, and a "reserve" branch called 12th Group, the way special forces was FORMERLY set up. It was operated and funded through CIA and this alliance continues to this day. Many former members also are now prominent in the media, which is why it has been a relatively simple matter for them to run the stories calling people exposing the activity of the 160th "loonies" or claiming the helicopters are associated with "UFO" activity, etc., in efforts to keep the public ignorant of the true military source and illegal purposes of these craft and their pilots and unit members. Robert K. Brown, of Soldier of Fortune Magazine, and his patsy, James Pate, are two examples. Joe Gelarden of the Indianapolis Star-News (the same company also owns the Arizona Republic) is another. Governor O'Bannon's press secretary is another. U.S. Congressional Representative Dan Burton's Chief of Staff is another (straight out of the 160th before he worked for Burton). These are just a few examples out of dozens. Placing members in such prominent locations, it is quite simple to undermine Congressional investigations and place stories prominently in the media discrediting any "leaks" of truthful information. In recent years, the military created two separate branches from what was formerly the legitimate "special forces" and this covert band of CIA-sponsored thugs operating under the cover of being "special forces." (You may remember "Operation Phoenix" and "Air America" as two examples of the CIA sponsored illegal activity of the illicit group). Now, there is a separate military branch, known as special forces, and another, known as special operations. Special Forces branch consists of the traditional "green berets," and "airborne" branch of the Army with a fairly long, special infantry, history. Special operations is the bastard step child and brainchild of a bunch of former covert thugs and rogues of the self-styled "Delta force," that has gained "legitimacy" (through lobbying and funding) and is now its own separate branch of the military, headed in the pentagon by a Col. (probably a general by now) Sheldon. Immediately prior to his appointment to head special ops at the pentagon, he was the commander of the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment. (See above. The 160th is the unit which has the black helicopters.) These helicopters flew missions to decimate Panama, under the leadership of (now) "drug czar" MG McCaffrey. We show this same unit, the supposed "heros" returning from Somalia (broadcast on NBC and named by name) in a video that shows what they really did in Somalia -- firing down on crowds of civilians as a "diversion" while paratroopers were dropped into the area. THAT, in fact, is how they train, to "create diversions" (by firing on any live target below) while they drop in members of their unit by parachute from the helicopters. They do this training in the U.S., over U.S. cities, frequently now, and they are training police in many of the same "special operations" tactics. If you are seriously interested in black helicopters, go to Ft. Campbell, Kentucky, which is located near Hopkinsville, KY. There is what is called the "Pratt Museum," open to the public, but somewhat obscure, there. At the Pratt Museum, they have a training tape from the 160th playing continuously, made by the Army, where you can see black helicopters and the 160th in training missions. It's quite impressive. They have an entire section on the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment there, with memorabilia from many of their missions, such as to Panama, Somalia, etc. Lots and lots of scenes of nothing but black helicopters, since that is all they have. Then, if you can (they may not let you since I filmed them, they tightened security a lot), drive over to the airfield. The 160th has a separate hangar there. They park a lot of dark green helicopters outside, usually, so they can make the claim they don't "really" have any black ones, "see, they're dark green?" But hang around long enough and you'll see black helicopters and black C-5A's among other things. Likewise, they park a lot of these helicopters at other miltiary locations throughout the country, always among dark green ones. Anyone asking about them is shown the dark green ones with the bogus, "See, they're dark green" refrain. It is usually simple, however, to film a dark green one parked directly adjacent to a black one and point out the differences. At Ft. Campbell, the 160th also has a MOUT training area there (Military Operations on Urbanized Terrain) which is a mock up of a city. They also train soldiers to jump out of the helicopters there, often using the black helicopters, which is also one of the simplest ways to see them. Just sit around and wait. They fly over. Some of those used in training are marked, whereas the ones used in clandestine operations are not marked and any you find parked at military installations will not be marked. I've noticed, of late, on some of the ones in our local area, that they have taken to putting big "red cross" emblems on some, apparently to give the impression they are rescue, however, I would seriously doubt that. If you see a black "little bird," that is the simplest proof it is from the 160th. Go to DOD's webpage (do an altavista search for "little bird" and you will find DOD itself asserts that ONLY the 160th SOAR flies this particular helicopter.) However, the 160th has a number of different types of helicopters, not just the little bird. The 160th's unit patch is death on horseback, their motto is "Death Waits in the Dark." We have so thoroughly exposed them and what they do, that the Army Times did a PR piece on them, trying to portray them as "just folks," about a year and a half ago and ran what was, until that time, a picture of their "secret" patch (I had tried to buy the patch several times and through various sources and they did, indeed, up until the Army Times ran the story, try to keep the patch a secret). Prior to the passage of the 1995 Omni-Bus Crime Control Bill ("1995 Crime Bill"), these helicopters and their special ops pilots, were used as a taxi service and private mafia by the FBI and DOE, with funding funneled through the Washington, D.C. government office "Organized Crime and Drug Control Task Force" ("OCDTF"), called the "Organized Crime Task Force," "Task Force," or "Racketeering Task Force," and "Drug Task Force," to be intentionally confusing and hard to find their phone number. However, it is headed by Paul (may not be the right first name, my memory isn't what it used to be) Coffey (that's the right last name). Call D.C. information, ask for the "Organized Crime Task Force" number and call him. Any federal agency could request funds for a "Drug Task Force" through OCDTF and get the funds, and merely claim it was for use to create a "drug task force." They did not have to account for how the funds were spent to anyone anywhere and they could use the funds to create a "task force" out of any government agency assets, including military, such as the 160th. As a result, multiple federal agency operatives created their own private "mafias" that were supposedly "drug task forces," but in actuality, have been involved in drug running, extortion and blackmail. When the 1995 Crime Bill passed, these same people had requested (under the guise of "fighting crime") multiple and vast authorities to create "drug task forces," with federal funding, from any government agency asset, and got it. They now operate far more blatantly than in the past, unfettered by any appearance of illegality, though what they are doing is not, in fact, at all legitimate. The 160th now routinely participates, along with other military units, in training police and practicing "urban assaults" over U.S. cities, which has been widely reported in the media at this point. Thus, for you to want to put this in anything associated with "conspiracy, cosmic whatever, and paranormal," is nothing more than the usual effort to ensationalize and discredit the truth, by associating what amounts to a military takeover in this country, through a combination of drug running, gun running, lobbying, blackmailing congressmen, and terrorism, with the usual pablum of "it's a conspiracy." Well, bucko, it *is* a "conspiracy" and a whole lot of these murderers need to be put on trial for exactly that, conspiracy to commit murder, conspiracy to commit treason, conspiracy to distribute drugs, conspiracy to commit extortion, and a laundry list of other charges. I'd personally appreciate it if you would go back to your handlers and tell them to kiss my ass. >March 20, 1997 > >Dear Ms. Thompson: > >I am trying to contact you by phone as well as by e-mail. I hope you receive >this message. > >I am a producer with a news magazine show called STRANGE UNIVERSE. We tackle >some of the more unusual and controversial stories of our times. We cover a >wide variety of stories from the paranormal to medical and cosmic >conspiracies. > >I hop eyou will reach me either by phone or by e-mail. I' dlike to invite you >to join us for an interveiw on your research regarding black helicopters and >the New World Order. > >Thanks for you r conisderation, > > >Arte Shamamian >Coordinating Producer >STRANGE UNIVERSE >818-972-9816 x251 >e-mail: firstname.lastname@example.org AEN reporters: Note the email address of the media whore. (AOL.com, home of the fedsnoops and braindead). -- Kind regards, Linda Thompson ************ V ***************** DEATH TO THE NEW WORLD ORDER ********************************** Dr. Linda Thompson Attorney at Law Chairman, American Justice Federation Terrorism Intelligence Analyst Internet: email@example.com ********************************** Remember Waco. The Murderers are still free. ********************************** See vicious mass murder crime scene: http://www.Public-Action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum http://22.214.171.124/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum
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