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oneeyewotan@gmail.com wrote:
> On 1 june, 04:14, Protagonist  wrote:
> 
>> Don't see any hate mongering in telling Da TRUTH!
> 
> Destroying common sense so utterly needs some sort of mental sickness,
> why don't you seek help.
> 

Are you talking to yourself?
JS


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TurkeyBoy wrote:
> Glad to see that you got your wage negotiantions completed with your
> ziomasters and back on the job, cutting and pasting and all that good
> junk.
> 
> Have a nice vegetarian day!
> -------------------------------------

Zionist Mcvay, bonus check is in the mail from Israel, now his script is 
up and running.
Now he has to figure out how to cheat on his taxes, to save all his 
Holohoax bonus money!
JS

> 
> On Jun 1, 6:01 am, Ken McVay  wrote:
>> [Follow-ups set]
>>
>> June 1
>>
>> 1933
>>
>> "...the leading Protestant theologian and biblical scholar,
>> Gerhard Kittel, said, during a public lecture in Tuebingen,
>> that the Jews, as a well-known matter of common sense, are a
>> racially constituted, alien body within Germany. He
>> explicitly considers extermination as a potential
>> "solution," but rejects it as impractical, and settles on
>> "guest status" (Fremdlingschaft), namely the separation of
>> the Jews from their host peoples. (Goldhagen, 126)
>>
>> 1943
>>
>> The final liquidation of the Lvov ghetto begins. There is
>> armed resistance, and three thousand Jews are killed.
> 
> I heard it was three thousand and one. Why did you cut it back to
> three thousand?
> Deniers like you need to be dealt with most severely.
> No coffee break for a week.
> 
>> Seven thousand are sent to the forced-labor and
> 
> I heard it was seven thousand and one. Why did you cut it back to
> seven thousand?
> Deniers like you need to be dealt with most severely.
> No coffee break for a week.
> 
>> concentration camp of Janowska on the edge of the city.  (USHMM 1993, 35)
> 
> 
>>                          Work Cited
>>
>> Goldhagen, Daniel Jonah. Hitler's Willing Executioners: Ordinary Germans
>>    and the Holocaust.  New York: Alfred A. Knopf, 1996
>>
>> USHMM (United States Holocaust Memorial Museum). Fifty
>>    Years Ago: Revolt Amid the Darkness: Days of Remembrance,
>>    April 18-25, 1993. Washington, D.C.: 1993
>> --
>> "My name is not 'Fatbury Scumbag' you stupid lying Jew bastard. Name
>> call is all a pathetic loser like you has!  You have yet to prove me
>> wrong you dirty filthy lying Jew bastard!" (Scott Bradbury, The Leading
>> Revisionist Scholar of Bellville, Texas)
> 
> 


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oneeyewotan@gmail.com wrote:
> On 1 june, 13:13, TurkeyBoy  wrote:
> 
>> What is pathetic is the way McVay, the paid purveyor of Zionist hate
>> propaganda throws those numbers around.
> 
> Those numbers are not his but historical fact.
> 
>> What is even more pathetic is
>> that in some countries people are put in prison for disputing those
>> off the wall numbers.
> 
> They are not off the wall numbers, they are historical fact.
> 
> Historians who have estimated for example Auschwitz death toll from
> 800 000 to 1 500 000, haven't got any accusations og being anti-semite
> holocaust denier. It proves: you ask and discuss.
> 

Historical facts written by Jewish historians and forced upon the world, 
twisted like the iron pillars of the World trade center after 9/11.
Any one try to question it, goes to jail.
JS


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oneeyewotan@gmail.com wrote:
> On 1 june, 11:46, Protagonist  wrote:
> 
> ad-hominem, you're getting pathetic.
> 

Right! So you denying, he's running a script program for his Zionist 
propaganda posts?
JS



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 >>up to 60% of the German economy is led by Jews." <<

http://www.bytwerk.com/gpa/images/diebow/chart.jpg

Caption:" A picture of German economic life in 1930: Each column shows a 
branch of the German economy, The figure to the left shows the total 
number of companies. The number of Jewish firms is shown by the black 
bar, the non-Jewish by the white bar. When one remembers that according 
to the 1925 census there were 'only' about 555,000 religious Jews in 
Germany — which means by a generous estimate no more than a million Jews 
by blood in 1930, there are 60 to 100 Germans for each Jew. This makes 
clear what it means when, for example, up to 60% of the German economy 
is led by Jews." (p. 36)


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oneeyewotan@gmail.com wrote:
> On 1 kesä, 13:46, Protagonist  wrote:
>> oneeyewo...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On 1 june, 13:13, TurkeyBoy  wrote:
>>>> What is pathetic is the way McVay, the paid purveyor of Zionist hate
>>>> propaganda throws those numbers around.
>>> Those numbers are not his but historical fact.
>>>> What is even more pathetic is
>>>> that in some countries people are put in prison for disputing those
>>>> off the wall numbers.
>>> They are not off the wall numbers, they are historical fact.
>>> Historians who have estimated for example Auschwitz death toll from
>>> 800 000 to 1 500 000, haven't got any accusations og being anti-semite
>>> holocaust denier. It proves: you ask and discuss.
>> Historical facts written by Jewish historians and forced upon the world,
>> twisted like the iron pillars of the World trade center after 9/11.
>> Any one try to question it, goes to jail.
>> JS
> 
>  Berlin holocaust museum has 30 million documents, do you seriously
> think all those documents are forgieries made by ZOG or some other
> supernatural organization who can do everything. If so, seek help. You
> live in a dreamworld.
> 
> Peter Englund has written an excellent compilation of short stories,
> the name of the book is in english roughly translated as "letters from
> the point zero". There's a excellent short story about the one day in
> Belzec extremination camp. Peter Englund is a well known and respecetd
> historian and he's a swedish.
> 

30 million documents of what? Be specific!
Is it open to the public or locked up and used for propaganda?
JS


 >>Peter Englund in part of his book tell us: I am going to show you 
what happen on this very day, in this very camp. But there is something 
disturbing. It's the beginning of his statements. Because first, he 
confesses that there is no physical evidence. And as you perhaps know, 
we revisionism, we are very interested in physics, chemistry, 
topography, in technical questions. We are as we say, materialistic. We 
want to see the things or to have those things reconstructed. But in a 
scientific way. So it's really unfortunately that it is no physical 
evidence of such a extraordinary thing. But this is what he has to say. 
He say, not a trace have to be left of Belzec. The camp was demolished, 
etc, etc. He also says that there is no documentary evidence. That all 
paper was destroyed. You must understand that for Mr Englund, if there 
is no physical evidence and if there is no documentary evidence, it's 
because the Germans are guilty. They destroyed everything. Which is 
really surprise.<<
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oneeyewotan@gmail.com wrote:
> On 1 kesä, 14:11, Protagonist  wrote:
>>  >>up to 60% of the German economy is led by Jews." <<
>>
>> http://www.bytwerk.com/gpa/images/diebow/chart.jpg
> 
> Forbidden
> You don't have permission to access /gpa/images/diebow/chart.jpg on
> this server
> 

http://www.bytwerk.com/gpa/diebow.htm

Scroll to the bottom of page!
JS


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Chris C. Larson wrote:
> On Jun 1, 6:11 am, Protagonist  wrote:
>>  >>up to 60% of the German economy is led by Jews." <<
>>
>> http://www.bytwerk.com/gpa/images/diebow/chart.jpg
>>
>> Caption:" A picture of German economic life in 1930: Each column shows a
>> branch of the German economy, The figure to the left shows the total
>> number of companies. The number of Jewish firms is shown by the black
>> bar, the non-Jewish by the white bar. When one remembers that according
>> to the 1925 census there were 'only' about 555,000 religious Jews in
>> Germany - which means by a generous estimate no more than a million Jews
>> by blood in 1930, there are 60 to 100 Germans for each Jew. This makes
>> clear what it means when, for example, up to 60% of the German economy
>> is led by Jews." (p. 36)
> 
> I wouldn't waste my nme reading your cut and paste tripe of un-
> original material, so go away.
> 

I'm sure you wouldn't, moron, you only read Zionist propaganda, fits 
your vegetable brain!
JS



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James Fenimoore wrote:
> A picture is worth a thousand words so everyone consider;
> 
> http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.htm
> 
> Click the picture of Warlock McVay to see the larger version or click this link;
> http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_Kenneth_McVay.jpg
> 
> Does everyone see that stick pin on his lapel? It's a sorcerer. Is McVay trying to
> tell us something about the way he views the world other than he's a puppet of
> zionists who were also labeled the children of the devil?
> 
> http://www.tattoojohnny.com/search.asp?k=warlock
> 
> Compare the tattoos to McVay's stick pin.
> 
> http://www.boudicca.de/warlock-e.htm
> "...`warlock', in the sense of `a male witch', is Scottish Late Middle English and
> entirely derogatory; its root means `traitor, enemy, devil'..."
> 
> Why do google web and usenet show returns for Kenneth McVay and wicca?
> 
> http://www.google.com/search?as_q=wicca&hl=en&num=10&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=Kenneth+McVay&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=&as_rights=&safe=images
> 
> http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=&num=30&scoring=r&hl=en&as_epq=Kenneth+McVay&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_ugroup=alt.religion.wicca&as_usubject=&as_uauthors=&lr=&as_drrb=q&as_qdr=&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=3&as_maxm=6&as_maxy=2007&safe=off
> 
> JF

He looks like a fag to me, if that's his real photo!
All he does is collects falls informations from Zionist Holohoax 
websites on the Internet and run a script program for daily post here.
JS



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TurkeyBoy wrote:
> On Jun 4, 6:03 am, James Fenimoore  wrote:
>> A picture is worth a thousand words so everyone consider;
>>
>> http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.htm
> 
> 
> "Backed by a volunteer team of 65 sympathetic computer activists
> around the world,..."
> 
> Do they mean those insane lunatics that make death threats on the
> Internet in defense of hlohustlerizm?
> 
> I saw a photo of him from his gas pumping days. He looked normal
> before he got this job pushing Zionist hate propaganda.
> 
> I do not believe that anyone would make a death threat against him.
> Why?
> 
> Have a nice vegetarian day!
> 

With that kind of hair, old fart, he looks like a scary looking lunatic 
to me.
May be McVay Da suggar daddy, wants to attract children to his house, in 
his $2 blue suit, bought at the Goodwill store.
JS




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MICHAEL wrote:
> On Jun 8, 8:58 pm, "Binyamin Cramer" 
> wrote:
>> http://www.halturnershow.com/RedCrossRecordsProveHolocaustWasFraud.html
> 
> The Hal Turner show! More intellectual stimulation. Actually the Red
> Cross was something of
> a "fraud" as it only visited pre-determined sites and did not see the
> Jews being coralled
> into the gas chambers and fed to the ovens.
> 
> Michael Ragland
> 

Gee, what a mistake from the RC!
During the war rumors has been circulating about the German labor camps, 
Jews being murdered there, by Jew.
3 Jewish inmates  escaped from Auschwitz in 43', after arriving to 
England warned Roosevelt about what's going on in the camps.
Polish resistance watched these camps very closely.
So why do you think the Red Cross wouldn't check out these stories, even 
secretly, not to compromise their mission?
JS



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So these hand full of people murdered 4 million, no 1.1 million inmates, 
including 400,000 Hungarian Jews within a 2 months period?
Haha! What a joke!
JS



Commandants
1.SS Hauptsturmführer Karl Fritzsch (Killed in Action)
2.SS Hauptsturmführer Rudolf Höss (Executed by the Poles)
3.SS Obersturmführer Arthur Liebhenschel (Executed by the Poles)

SS & Civilian Doctors
Dr Carl Clauberg (Died in a West German Prison)
Dr Arnold Dohmen (Fate Unknown)
SS Hauptsturmführer Dr Friedrich - Karl Entress (Executed by the Allies)
Dr Kurt Gutzeit (Fate Unknown)
SS Hauptsturmführer Dr Willy Jobst (Executed by the Allies)
SS Obersturmführer Dr Bruno Kitt (Executed by the Allies)
SS Hauptsturmführer Dr Fritz Klein (Executed by the Allies)
SS Untersturmführer Dr Hans - Wilhelm König (Fate Unknown)
SS Hauptsturmführer Dr Eduard Krebsbach (Executed by the Allies)
SS Untersturmführer Dr Johannes Kremer (Life Imprisonment)
SS Obersturmführer Dr Franz Lucas (3yrs Imprisonment)
Female SS Oberaufseherinen Dr Maria Mandel (Executed by the Poles)
SS Hauptsturmführer Dr Josef Mengele (Escaped Abroad - Died in a Swiming 
Accident)
SS Obersturmführer Dr Hans Munch (Acquitted)
SS Obersturmführer Dr Werner Rohde (Executed by the Allies)
SS Sturmbannführer Dr Horst Schumann (Escaped Abroad)
SS Obersturmführer Dr Horst Thilo (Committed Suicide)
SS Hauptsturmführer Dr Alfred Trzebinski (Executed by the Allies)
SS Hauptsturmführer Dr Helmuth Vetter (Executed by the Allies)
SS Hauptsturmführer Dr Eduard Wirths (Committed Suicide in Prison)
Dr Helmut Wirths (Fate Unknown)

Guards
SS Hauptsturmführer Benno Adolf (Died - Not Prosecuted)
SS Unterscharführer Bruno - Hugo Albrecht (7yrs Imprisonment)
SS Obersturmführer Hans Aumeier (Executed by the Allies)
SS Hauptsturmführer Richard Baer (Escaped Abroad - Died in Prison)
SS Rottenführer Karl Bainski (Fate Unknown)
SS Unterscharführer Karl Bara (3yrs Imprisonment)
SS Rottenführer Stefan Baretzki (Life & 8yrs Imprisonment)
SS Sturmmann Josef Baumstark (Fate Unknown)
SS Unterstumführer Emil Bednarek (Life Imprisonment)
SS Obersturmführer Otto Blaschke (Fate Unknown)
SS Rottenführer Richard Böck (Acquitted)
SS Obersturmführer Franz Bodmann (Died - Not Prosecuted)
SS Hauptscharführer Wilhelm Boger (Life & 15yrs Imprisonment)
SS Unterscharführer August Bogusch (Executed by the Poles)
SS Unterscharführer Georg Bonigut (Fate Unknown)
Female SS Aufseherinen Juana Bormann (Executed by the Allies)
SS Oberscharführer Hans Bott (5yrs Imprisonment)
Female SS Aufseherinen Therese Brandl (Executed by the Poles)
SS Unterscharführer Arthur Breitwieser (Life Imprisonment)
SS Rottenführer Pery Broad (4yrs Imprisonment)
SS Unterscharführer Karl - Reinhard Broch (Fate Unknown)
SS Unterscharführer Anton Brose (Fate Unknown)
SS Scharführer Hermann - Balthasar Buch (Fate Unknown)
SS Sturmmann Alexander Bulow (15yrs Imprisonment)
SS Unterscharführer Fritz Buntrock (Executed by the Poles)
SS Obersturmbannführer Wilhelm Burger (5yrs & 8yrs Imprisonment)
SS Hauptscharführer Viktor Capesius (9yrs Imprisonment)
SS Sturmscharführer Lorenz Carstensen (Died in Prison)
Female SS Aufseherinen Luise Danz (Life Imprisonment)
SS Obersturmführer Hans Delmotte (Committed Suicide)
SS Hauptsturmführer Oskar Dienstbach (Died - Not Prosecuted)
SS Sturmmann Erich Dinges (5yrs Imprisonment)
SS Unterscharführer Andreas - Hans Draser (Fate Unknown)
Female SS Aufseherinen Margot Dreschler (Fate Unknown)
SS Scharführer Klaus Dylewski (5yrs Imprisonment)
SS Unterscharführer Josef Dziersan (Fate Unknown)
SS Unterscharführer Josef Eckhardt (Fate Unknown)
SS Unterscharführer Gerhard Effinger (Fate Unknown)
SS Scharführer Karl Egersdorf (Acquitted)
Female SS Aufseherinen Herta Ehlert (15yrs Imprisonment)
SS Oberscharführer Wilhelm Emmerich (WIA - Died in Hospital)
SS Hauptsturmführer Horst - Paul Fischer (Executed by West Germany)
SS Hauptsturmführer Karl - Josef Fischer (Fate Unknown)
SS Sturmmann Willi Florschütz (Fate Unknown)
SS Unterscharführer Gustav Frank (Fate Unknown)
SS Hauptscharführer Willi Frank (7yrs Imprisonment)
SS Hauptscharführer Jakob Fries (Fate Unknown)
SS Hauptscharführer Wilhelm Gehring (Executed by the Poles)
SS Obersturmführer Gerhard Gerber (Fate Unknown)
SS Oberscharführer Emanuel Glumbik (Fate Unknown)
SS Unterscharführer Herbert Göbbert (Fate Unknown)
SS Unterscharführer Johann Gorges (Died - Not Prosecuted)
SS Rottenführer Paul Gotze (Executed by the Poles)
Female SS Aufseherinen Irma Grese (Executed by the Allies)
SS Oberscharführer Maximilian Grabner (Executed by the Poles)
SS Rottenführer Ladislaw Gura (Acquitted)
SS Unterstumführer Ferdinand Hammer (Escaped Abroad)
SS Rottenführer Emil Hantl (3 ½yrs Imprisonment)
SS Hauptscharführer Friedrich Harder (Fate Unknown)
SS Obersturmbannführer Fritz Hartjenstein (Died in Prison)
SS Hauptsturmführer Erwin von Helmersen (Executed by the Poles)
SS Hauptsturmführer Erwin Heschl (Fate Unknown)
SS Rottenführer Karl Höcker (7yrs Imprisonment)
SS Oberscharführer Franz - Johann Hoffmann (Life Imprisonment)
SS Rottenführer Hans Hofmann (15yrs Imprisonment)
SS Hauptsturmführer Rudolf Horstmann (Fate Unknown)
SS Obersturmführer Franz Hössler (Executed by the Allies)
SS Oberscharführer Josef Houstek (Life Imprisonment)
SS Unterscharführer Wilhelm Hoyer (Fate Unknown)
SS Oberscharführer Karl Jeschke (3yrs Imprisonment)
SS Obersturmführer Heinrich Josten (Executed by the Poles)
SS Hauptsturmführer Julius Jung (KIA by Russians)
SS Unterscharführer Oswald Kaduk (25yrs Imprisonment)
SS Unterscharführer Johann Kamphus (Fate Unknown)
SS Unterscharführer Hans - Walter Kapper (Died - Not Prosecuted)
SS Unterscharführer Edward Kelm (Fate Unknown)
SS Unterscharführer Hermann Kirschner (Executed by the Poles)
SS Sturmscharführer Josef Klehr (Life & 15yrs Imprisonment)
SS Oberscharführer Kurt Knittel (Fate Unknown)
SS Unterscharführer Hans Koch (Life Imprisonment)
SS Obersturmführer Josef Kollmer (Executed by the Poles)
SS Unterscharführer Ernst König (Life Imprisonment)
SS Hauptsturmführer Josef Kramer (Executed by the Allies)
SS Obersturmführer Theodor Kraetzer (Fate Unknown)
SS Sturmbannführer Franz Kraus (Executed by the Poles)
SS Hauptscharführer Eduard Kreibisch (Fate Unknown)
SS Unterscharführer Bernhard Kristan (Fate Unknown)
SS Sturmbannführer Adolf Krömer (Died - Not Prosecuted)
SS Hauptsturmführer Georg Kudriawtzow (Fate Unknown)
SS Rottenführer Romuald Kunzelmann (Fate Unknown)
SS Untersturmführer Alois Kurz (Fate Unknown)
Female SS Aufseherinen Hildegard Lachert (15yrs Imprisonment)
SS Unterscharführer Gerhard Lachmann (Fate Unknown)
SS Unterscharführer Franz Laister (Fate Unknown)
Female SS Aufseherinen Johanna Langefeldt (Fate Unknown)
SS Unterscharführer Otto Latsch (Executed by the Poles)
SS Rottenführer Anton Lechner (Life Imprisonment)
SS Unterscharführer Eduard Lorenz (15yrs Imprisonment)
SS Oberscharführer Herbert Ludwig (Executed by the Poles)
SS Untersturmführer Georg - Franz Mayer (Fate Unknown)
SS Unterscharführer Adolf Medefind (Life Imprisonment)
SS Untersturmführer Max Meyr (Fate Unknown)
SS Obersturmbannführer Karl Mockel (Executed by the Poles)
SS Unterscharführer Otto Möll (Executed by the Allies)
SS Oberscharführer Erich Mühsfeldt (Executed by the Poles)
SS Hauptsturmführer Robert Mulka (14yrs Imprisonment)
SS Unterscharführer Kurt Müller (Executed by the Poles)
SS Hauptscharführer Detlef Nebbe (Life Imprisonment)
SS Oberscharführer Hinrich Oppelt (Fate Unknown)
SS Oberscharführer Walter Otto (Acquitted)
SS Hauptscharführer Gerhard Palitzsch (Dissapeared)
SS Obersturmführer Bruno Pfuetze (Fate Unknown)
SS Unterscharführer Hans Pichler (Fate Unknown)
SS Oberscharführer Ludwig Plagge (Executed by the Poles)
SS Sturmbannführer Max Popiersch (Died of Typhus)
SS Hauptsturmführer Elimar - Lüder Precht (Fate Unknown)
SS Rottenführer Heinrich Pyschny (Fate Unknown)
SS Oberscharführer Walter - Konrad Quakernack (Executed by the Poles)
SS Unterscharführer Karl Reichenbacher (Fate Unknown)
SS Unterscharführer Franz Romeikat (15yrs Imprisonment)
SS Rottenführer Johann Roth (Fate Unknown)
SS Hauptsturmführer Erich Sautter (Fate Unknown)
SS Hauptscharführer Willi - Rudolf Sawatzki (Acquitted)
SS Rottenführer Willi Schatz (Acquitted)
SS Oberscharführer Herbert Scherpe (4 ½yrs Imprisonment)
SS Oberscharführer Bruno Schlange (6yrs Imprisonment)
SS Hauptsturmführer Friedrich Schlüter (4 & ½yrs Imprisonment)
SS Untersturmführer Karl Schmidt (Fate Unknown)
SS Unterscharführer Johann Schobert (Acquitted)
SS Unterscharführer Heinrich Schoppe (Fate Unknown)
SS Obersturmführer Vincenz Schöttl (Executed by the Allies)
SS Unterscharführer Richard Schröder (10yrs Imprisonment)
SS Untersturmführer Wilhelm Schulte (Fate Unknown)
SS Unterscharführer Heinz - Arthur Willi - Schulz (Fate Unknown)
SS Unterscharführer Hans Schumacher (Executed by the Poles)
SS Untersturmführer Hans Schurz (Died - Not Prosecuted)
SS Hauptsturmführer Heinrich Schwarz (Executed by the French)
SS Obersturmführer Johann Schwarzhüber (Executed by the Allies)
SS Hauptsturmführer Siegfried Schwela (Died of Typhus)
SS Hauptsturmführer Fritz Seidler (KIA by Russians)
SS Unterscharführer Robert Seitz (Fate Unknown)
SS Obersturmführer Max Sell (Died - Not Prosecuted)
SS Hauptscharführer Karl Seufert (Life Imprisonment)
SS Schütze Emil Simczek (Fate Unknown)
SS Oberscharführer Willi Stark (10yrs Imprisonment)
SS Unterscharführer Karl - Fritz Steinberg (Fate Unknown)
SS Unterscharführer Friedrich Stiewitz (Died - Not Prosecuted)
SS Unterscharführer Paul Szczurek (Executed by the Poles)
SS Unterscharführer Adolf Taube (Fate Unknown)
SS Sturmbannführer Karl Heinz - Joachim Tauber (4yrs Imprisonment)
SS Unterscharführer Adolf Theuer (Executed by the Czechs)
SS Sturmbannführer Kurt Erich - Willy Uhlenbroock (Not Prosecuted)
SS Sturmmann Rudolf Viehweger (Fate Unknown)
Female SS Oberaufseherinen Elisabeth Völkenrath (Executed by the Allies)
SS Oberscharführer Peter Voss (Fate Unknown)
SS Hauptsturmführer Rudolf Wagner (KIA by Russians)
SS Hauptscharführer Bernhard Walter (Fate Unknown)
SS Sturmmann Johannes Weber (15yrs Imprisonment)
SS Hauptscharführer Peter Weingartner (Executed by the Allies)
SS Unterscharführer Gottfried Weise (Life Imprisonment)
SS Scharführer Richard Wiegleb (Fate Unknown)
SS Oberscharführer Josef - Alois Wietschök (Fate Unknown)
SS Untersturmführer Karl Wotke (Fate Unknown)
SS Untersturmführer Herbert Wuttke (Fate Unknown)
SS Rottenführer Paul Zielke (Fate Unknown)

Wachmann
SS Wachmann Vassily Pankov (Possibly Killed by the Russians)
SS Wachmann Ivan Scharujew (Fate Unknown)

Unknown SS
SS Schutze Höblinger (Fate Unknown)
SS Unterscharführer Rathmann (Fate Unknown)
SS Scharführer Taubert (Fate Unknown)
SS Scharführer Wiebeck (Fate Unknown)



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RJ11 wrote:
> In article ,
> Binyamin Cramer  wrote:
> 
>> As usual, jacobsOn has his knickers all  bunched up and 
>> is using a quote from them totally unrelated to the
>> document to which I provided a link.
> 
>    I am quoting a statement from the Red Cross which relates
> to ALL the material they ever compiled,  old shroomer:
> 
>    "Consequently the ICRC considers it must make clear the fact that
> it has never published -- or even compiled -- statistics of this kind
> which are being falsely attributed to it. The work of the ICRC is to
> help war victims, not to count them. In any case, how could its
> delegates have obtained data for such statistics? They were able to
> enter only a few concentration camps, and then only in the final days
> of the war".

Of course they don't want to admit it, moron!
It would blow all the Holohoax  legend and make the RC guilty and 
collaborators also, like the way Jews want to make the Catholic church 
guilty for being neutral in WW2!
Last thing RC wants to do is pay billions for the Jews as compensations.
You are really a naive idiot RJ!
JS





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RJ11 wrote:
> In article ,
> Protagonist   wrote:
> 
>> Gee, what a mistake from the RC!
>> During the war rumors has been circulating about the German labor camps, 
>> Jews being murdered there, by Jew.
>> 3 Jewish inmates  escaped from Auschwitz in 43', after arriving to 
>> England warned Roosevelt about what's going on in the camps.
> 
>    I don't think they ever arrived in England,  but never mind.
> 
>> Polish resistance watched these camps very closely.
>> So why do you think the Red Cross wouldn't check out these stories, even 
>> secretly, not to compromise their mission?
> 
>    The Red Cross is not a spy organization.
> 
> RJ.
> 

Oh sure, moron! Like the Peace corps, funded by the US gov., easy way 
gathering intelligence from other countries!
Few years ago, Cross Fire, TV show, had a discussion about it.
Here's another piece:

http://www.interaction.org/newswire/detail.php?id=1239

Russia Ousts Peace Corps

	  		  	
Posted Date: January 13, 2003
Russia Ousts Peace Corps
After months of speculation that the Peace Corps would no longer be 
welcome in Russia, the word settling its future came on Christmas Day.
State Department spokesman Richard Boucher confirmed that the 
notification that Russia intended to withdraw from the agreement had 
been received on Dec. 25. “The Russian government expressed its 
gratitude for Peace Corps assistance. And we’re pleased to have had the 
opportunity to serve in Russia,” he said at the Jan. 2 State Department 
news briefing.

Citing changing economic and social needs of the country, Russian 
Foreign Ministry spokesman Alexander Yakovenko said Russia would not 
extend its agreement with the Peace Corps.

“Due to the changing economic and social tasks facing our country, we 
are holding consultations with the American side on how new forms of 
partnership could be worked out more in line with today’s needs,” he 
said in a statement to Interfax news agency


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RJ11 wrote:
> In article ,
> Protagonist   wrote:
> 
>> So these hand full of people [snip]
> 
>    And why do you assume these were the only SS staff
> in Auschwitz?
> 
>    Do you "revisionists" ever TRY to follow some kind of a
> rational thought pattern?
> 
> RJ.
> 

If you know more, please add to it!
JS


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RJ11 wrote:
> In article ,
> Protagonist   wrote:
> 
>> RJ11 wrote:
> 
>>>    And why do you assume these were the only SS staff
>>> in Auschwitz?
>>>
>>>    Do you "revisionists" ever TRY to follow some kind of a
>>> rational thought pattern?
> 
>> If you know more, please add to it!
> 
>    There were 6,000 SS men in Auschwitz.
> 
>    If you have any evidence that the list you provided covers
> all those who were stationed there,  please post it.
> 
> RJ.
> 

Can you back up the 6000 SS man ?
JS


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TurkeyBoy wrote:
> On Jun 10, 10:02 am, RJ11  wrote:
>> In article ,
>>
>> Protagonist   wrote:
>>> RJ11 wrote:
>>>>    And why do you assume these were the only SS staff
>>>> in Auschwitz?
>>>>    Do you "revisionists" ever TRY to follow some kind of a
>>>> rational thought pattern?
>>> If you know more, please add to it!
>>    There were 6,000 SS men in Auschwitz.
> 
> Were any Jacobsons there?
>>    If you have any evidence that the list you provided covers
>> all those who were stationed there,  please post it.
>>
>> RJ.
> 
> 

Most were Jacobsons!
JS


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RJ11 wrote:
> In article <146dnSpnSp1mMfbbnZ2dnUVZ_vWtnZ2d@comcast.com>,
> Protagonist   wrote:
> 
>> RJ11 wrote:
> 
>>>    "Consequently the ICRC considers it must make clear the fact that
>>> it has never published -- or even compiled -- statistics of this kind
>>> which are being falsely attributed to it. The work of the ICRC is to
>>> help war victims, not to count them. In any case, how could its
>>> delegates have obtained data for such statistics? They were able to
>>> enter only a few concentration camps, and then only in the final days
>>> of the war".
> 
>> Of course they don't want to admit it, moron!
> 
>    When refuted with facts,  a "revisionist" deteriorates into
> hysterical frenzy,  screeching "damn Jews!" and sputtering
> insane conspiracy theories.
> 
>    Quite a sight.
> 
> RJ.


You mean Jewish facts?
Uhhh!
JS




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RJ11 wrote:
> In article ,
> Protagonist   wrote:
> 
>> RJ11 wrote:
> 
>>>    If you have any evidence that the list you provided covers
>>> all those who were stationed there,  please post it.
> 
>> Can you back up the 6000 SS man ?
> 
>    It's common historical record.
> 
>    Now,  please explain why you asserted that the list you
> posted covers "all" the SS men who served in Auschwitz.
> 
>    You may keep ignoring my question,  but it will not help
> your case. 
> 
> RJ.
> 

I searched for it, came up empty!
So where is your source for the 6000 SS man?
JS



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RJ11 wrote:
> In article ,
> Protagonist   wrote:
> 
>> RJ11 wrote:
> 
>>>    When refuted with facts,  a "revisionist" deteriorates into
>>> hysterical frenzy,  screeching "damn Jews!" and sputtering
>>> insane conspiracy theories.
>>>
>>>    Quite a sight.
> 
>> You mean Jewish facts?
>> Uhhh!
> 
>    As I said:
> 
>    "When refuted with facts,  a 'revisionist' deteriorates
> into hysterical frenzy,  screeching 'damn Jews!' and sputtering
> insane conspiracy theories".
> 
>    Thanks for proving my point,  Julius.
> 
> RJ.
> 

Da Jewish facts are full of lies!
JS


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RJ11 wrote:
> In article ,
> Protagonist   wrote:
> 
>> RJ11 wrote:
> 
>>>    Now,  please explain why you asserted that the list you
>>> posted covers "all" the SS men who served in Auschwitz.
>>>
>>>    You may keep ignoring my question,  but it will not help
>>> your case. 
> 
>> I searched for it, came up empty!
> 
>    Try reading a book.
> 
>    Now,  please explain why you asserted that the list you
> posted covers "all" the SS men who served in Auschwitz.
> 
>    You may keep ignoring my question,  but it will not help
> your case.
> 
> RJ.

Why avoiding my question about showing your sources?
You stated 6000 SS personal was at Auschwitz and it's a common knowledge!
I'm sure if it's a common knowledge , you have no problem pointing to 
your source?
JS


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RJ11 wrote:
> In article ,
> Protagonist   wrote:
> 
>    (snip)
> 
>    There has to be some order here.
> 
>    You posted a list of names,  and asserted that these
> are the "only SS men who ever served in Auschwitz".
> 
>    On what is your assertion based?
> 
>    Answer the question,  please.
> 
> RJ.
> 

You're playing games again, I assume you are a lier!
JS



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McVay should post this on his Nizkor site!
JS

lya Ehrenburg's, the leading Soviet propagandist of the Second World War 
who incited Soviet soldiers to treat Germans as sub-human:

Quote:
The Germans are not human beings. From now on the word German means to 
use the most terrible oath. From now on the word German strikes us to 
the quick. We shall not speak any more. We shall not get excited. We 
shall kill. If you have not killed at least one German a day, you have 
wasted that day ... If you cannot kill your German with a bullet, kill 
him with your bayonet. If there is calm on your part of the front, or if 
you are waiting for the fighting, kill a German in the meantime. If you 
leave a German alive, the German will hang a Russian and rape a Russian 
woman. If you kill one German, kill another -- there is nothing more 
amusing for us than a heap of German corpses. Do not count days, do not 
count kilometers. Count only the number of Germans killed by you. Kill 
the German -- that is your grandmother's request. Kill the German -- 
that is your child's prayer. Kill the German -- that is your 
motherland's loud request. Do not miss. Do not let through. Kill.


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MICHAEL wrote:
> On Jun 10, 3:55 am, Protagonist  wrote:
>> McVay should post this on his Nizkor site!
>> JS
>>
>> lya Ehrenburg's, the leading Soviet propagandist of the Second World War
>> who incited Soviet soldiers to treat Germans as sub-human:
>>
>> Quote:
>> The Germans are not human beings. From now on the word German means to
>> use the most terrible oath. From now on the word German strikes us to
>> the quick. We shall not speak any more. We shall not get excited. We
>> shall kill. If you have not killed at least one German a day, you have
>> wasted that day ... If you cannot kill your German with a bullet, kill
>> him with your bayonet. If there is calm on your part of the front, or if
>> you are waiting for the fighting, kill a German in the meantime. If you
>> leave a German alive, the German will hang a Russian and rape a Russian
>> woman. If you kill one German, kill another -- there is nothing more
>> amusing for us than a heap of German corpses. Do not count days, do not
>> count kilometers. Count only the number of Germans killed by you. Kill
>> the German -- that is your grandmother's request. Kill the German --
>> that is your child's prayer. Kill the German -- that is your
>> motherland's loud request. Do not miss. Do not let through. Kill.
> 
> 
> In war Protagonist both sides seek to dehumanize the enemy. Since Nazi
> Germany
> invaded Russia I would say this propaganda had some effectiveness.
> Hitler was

You mean the Axis was the first to strike, before the Soviets!

> burning on fire and not thinking clearly; he underestimated both the
> Soviets and
> the Americans.

Not really! At one point he got very close to winning the war.
Napoleon lost the war, but history looks at him as a great hero, because 
he didn't kill Jews!
Of course Hitler exterminated a few Jews and todays Jew run world he is 
demonised to the max.
JS


> 
> Michael Ragland
> 
> 



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Joe wrote:
> On Jun 10, 12:41 am, Protagonist  wrote:
>> So these hand full of people murdered 4 million, no 1.1 million inmates,
>> including 400,000 Hungarian Jews within a 2 months period?
>> Haha! What a joke!
>> JS
> 
> Nobody maintains that.The 4 million figure was a Soviet estimate based
> on faulty assumptions. This has been posted here about 1,000 times.
> 
> Auschwitz Commandant Hoess stated at Nuremberg that he had a staff of
> 3,000 men.

Were they all SS?
Than why RJ said 6000 SS worked over Auschwitz?
You Jews like to through big numbers around, eh!?
JS


> 
> 
>> Commandants
>> 1.SS Hauptsturmführer Karl Fritzsch (Killed in Action)
>> 2.SS Hauptsturmführer Rudolf Höss (Executed by the Poles)
>> 3.SS Obersturmführer Arthur Liebhenschel (Executed by the Poles)
>>
>> SS & Civilian Doctors
>> Dr Carl Clauberg (Died in a West German Prison)
>> Dr Arnold Dohmen (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Hauptsturmführer Dr Friedrich - Karl Entress (Executed by the Allies)
>> Dr Kurt Gutzeit (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Hauptsturmführer Dr Willy Jobst (Executed by the Allies)
>> SS Obersturmführer Dr Bruno Kitt (Executed by the Allies)
>> SS Hauptsturmführer Dr Fritz Klein (Executed by the Allies)
>> SS Untersturmführer Dr Hans - Wilhelm König (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Hauptsturmführer Dr Eduard Krebsbach (Executed by the Allies)
>> SS Untersturmführer Dr Johannes Kremer (Life Imprisonment)
>> SS Obersturmführer Dr Franz Lucas (3yrs Imprisonment)
>> Female SS Oberaufseherinen Dr Maria Mandel (Executed by the Poles)
>> SS Hauptsturmführer Dr Josef Mengele (Escaped Abroad - Died in a Swiming
>> Accident)
>> SS Obersturmführer Dr Hans Munch (Acquitted)
>> SS Obersturmführer Dr Werner Rohde (Executed by the Allies)
>> SS Sturmbannführer Dr Horst Schumann (Escaped Abroad)
>> SS Obersturmführer Dr Horst Thilo (Committed Suicide)
>> SS Hauptsturmführer Dr Alfred Trzebinski (Executed by the Allies)
>> SS Hauptsturmführer Dr Helmuth Vetter (Executed by the Allies)
>> SS Hauptsturmführer Dr Eduard Wirths (Committed Suicide in Prison)
>> Dr Helmut Wirths (Fate Unknown)
>>
>> Guards
>> SS Hauptsturmführer Benno Adolf (Died - Not Prosecuted)
>> SS Unterscharführer Bruno - Hugo Albrecht (7yrs Imprisonment)
>> SS Obersturmführer Hans Aumeier (Executed by the Allies)
>> SS Hauptsturmführer Richard Baer (Escaped Abroad - Died in Prison)
>> SS Rottenführer Karl Bainski (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Unterscharführer Karl Bara (3yrs Imprisonment)
>> SS Rottenführer Stefan Baretzki (Life & 8yrs Imprisonment)
>> SS Sturmmann Josef Baumstark (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Unterstumführer Emil Bednarek (Life Imprisonment)
>> SS Obersturmführer Otto Blaschke (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Rottenführer Richard Böck (Acquitted)
>> SS Obersturmführer Franz Bodmann (Died - Not Prosecuted)
>> SS Hauptscharführer Wilhelm Boger (Life & 15yrs Imprisonment)
>> SS Unterscharführer August Bogusch (Executed by the Poles)
>> SS Unterscharführer Georg Bonigut (Fate Unknown)
>> Female SS Aufseherinen Juana Bormann (Executed by the Allies)
>> SS Oberscharführer Hans Bott (5yrs Imprisonment)
>> Female SS Aufseherinen Therese Brandl (Executed by the Poles)
>> SS Unterscharführer Arthur Breitwieser (Life Imprisonment)
>> SS Rottenführer Pery Broad (4yrs Imprisonment)
>> SS Unterscharführer Karl - Reinhard Broch (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Unterscharführer Anton Brose (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Scharführer Hermann - Balthasar Buch (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Sturmmann Alexander Bulow (15yrs Imprisonment)
>> SS Unterscharführer Fritz Buntrock (Executed by the Poles)
>> SS Obersturmbannführer Wilhelm Burger (5yrs & 8yrs Imprisonment)
>> SS Hauptscharführer Viktor Capesius (9yrs Imprisonment)
>> SS Sturmscharführer Lorenz Carstensen (Died in Prison)
>> Female SS Aufseherinen Luise Danz (Life Imprisonment)
>> SS Obersturmführer Hans Delmotte (Committed Suicide)
>> SS Hauptsturmführer Oskar Dienstbach (Died - Not Prosecuted)
>> SS Sturmmann Erich Dinges (5yrs Imprisonment)
>> SS Unterscharführer Andreas - Hans Draser (Fate Unknown)
>> Female SS Aufseherinen Margot Dreschler (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Scharführer Klaus Dylewski (5yrs Imprisonment)
>> SS Unterscharführer Josef Dziersan (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Unterscharführer Josef Eckhardt (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Unterscharführer Gerhard Effinger (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Scharführer Karl Egersdorf (Acquitted)
>> Female SS Aufseherinen Herta Ehlert (15yrs Imprisonment)
>> SS Oberscharführer Wilhelm Emmerich (WIA - Died in Hospital)
>> SS Hauptsturmführer Horst - Paul Fischer (Executed by West Germany)
>> SS Hauptsturmführer Karl - Josef Fischer (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Sturmmann Willi Florschütz (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Unterscharführer Gustav Frank (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Hauptscharführer Willi Frank (7yrs Imprisonment)
>> SS Hauptscharführer Jakob Fries (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Hauptscharführer Wilhelm Gehring (Executed by the Poles)
>> SS Obersturmführer Gerhard Gerber (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Oberscharführer Emanuel Glumbik (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Unterscharführer Herbert Göbbert (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Unterscharführer Johann Gorges (Died - Not Prosecuted)
>> SS Rottenführer Paul Gotze (Executed by the Poles)
>> Female SS Aufseherinen Irma Grese (Executed by the Allies)
>> SS Oberscharführer Maximilian Grabner (Executed by the Poles)
>> SS Rottenführer Ladislaw Gura (Acquitted)
>> SS Unterstumführer Ferdinand Hammer (Escaped Abroad)
>> SS Rottenführer Emil Hantl (3 ½yrs Imprisonment)
>> SS Hauptscharführer Friedrich Harder (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Obersturmbannführer Fritz Hartjenstein (Died in Prison)
>> SS Hauptsturmführer Erwin von Helmersen (Executed by the Poles)
>> SS Hauptsturmführer Erwin Heschl (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Rottenführer Karl Höcker (7yrs Imprisonment)
>> SS Oberscharführer Franz - Johann Hoffmann (Life Imprisonment)
>> SS Rottenführer Hans Hofmann (15yrs Imprisonment)
>> SS Hauptsturmführer Rudolf Horstmann (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Obersturmführer Franz Hössler (Executed by the Allies)
>> SS Oberscharführer Josef Houstek (Life Imprisonment)
>> SS Unterscharführer Wilhelm Hoyer (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Oberscharführer Karl Jeschke (3yrs Imprisonment)
>> SS Obersturmführer Heinrich Josten (Executed by the Poles)
>> SS Hauptsturmführer Julius Jung (KIA by Russians)
>> SS Unterscharführer Oswald Kaduk (25yrs Imprisonment)
>> SS Unterscharführer Johann Kamphus (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Unterscharführer Hans - Walter Kapper (Died - Not Prosecuted)
>> SS Unterscharführer Edward Kelm (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Unterscharführer Hermann Kirschner (Executed by the Poles)
>> SS Sturmscharführer Josef Klehr (Life & 15yrs Imprisonment)
>> SS Oberscharführer Kurt Knittel (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Unterscharführer Hans Koch (Life Imprisonment)
>> SS Obersturmführer Josef Kollmer (Executed by the Poles)
>> SS Unterscharführer Ernst König (Life Imprisonment)
>> SS Hauptsturmführer Josef Kramer (Executed by the Allies)
>> SS Obersturmführer Theodor Kraetzer (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Sturmbannführer Franz Kraus (Executed by the Poles)
>> SS Hauptscharführer Eduard Kreibisch (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Unterscharführer Bernhard Kristan (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Sturmbannführer Adolf Krömer (Died - Not Prosecuted)
>> SS Hauptsturmführer Georg Kudriawtzow (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Rottenführer Romuald Kunzelmann (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Untersturmführer Alois Kurz (Fate Unknown)
>> Female SS Aufseherinen Hildegard Lachert (15yrs Imprisonment)
>> SS Unterscharführer Gerhard Lachmann (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Unterscharführer Franz Laister (Fate Unknown)
>> Female SS Aufseherinen Johanna Langefeldt (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Unterscharführer Otto Latsch (Executed by the Poles)
>> SS Rottenführer Anton Lechner (Life Imprisonment)
>> SS Unterscharführer Eduard Lorenz (15yrs Imprisonment)
>> SS Oberscharführer Herbert Ludwig (Executed by the Poles)
>> SS Untersturmführer Georg - Franz Mayer (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Unterscharführer Adolf Medefind (Life Imprisonment)
>> SS Untersturmführer Max Meyr (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Obersturmbannführer Karl Mockel (Executed by the Poles)
>> SS Unterscharführer Otto Möll (Executed by the Allies)
>> SS Oberscharführer Erich Mühsfeldt (Executed by the Poles)
>> SS Hauptsturmführer Robert Mulka (14yrs Imprisonment)
>> SS Unterscharführer Kurt Müller (Executed by the Poles)
>> SS Hauptscharführer Detlef Nebbe (Life Imprisonment)
>> SS Oberscharführer Hinrich Oppelt (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Oberscharführer Walter Otto (Acquitted)
>> SS Hauptscharführer Gerhard Palitzsch (Dissapeared)
>> SS Obersturmführer Bruno Pfuetze (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Unterscharführer Hans Pichler (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Oberscharführer Ludwig Plagge (Executed by the Poles)
>> SS Sturmbannführer Max Popiersch (Died of Typhus)
>> SS Hauptsturmführer Elimar - Lüder Precht (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Rottenführer Heinrich Pyschny (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Oberscharführer Walter - Konrad Quakernack (Executed by the Poles)
>> SS Unterscharführer Karl Reichenbacher (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Unterscharführer Franz Romeikat (15yrs Imprisonment)
>> SS Rottenführer Johann Roth (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Hauptsturmführer Erich Sautter (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Hauptscharführer Willi - Rudolf Sawatzki (Acquitted)
>> SS Rottenführer Willi Schatz (Acquitted)
>> SS Oberscharführer Herbert Scherpe (4 ½yrs Imprisonment)
>> SS Oberscharführer Bruno Schlange (6yrs Imprisonment)
>> SS Hauptsturmführer Friedrich Schlüter (4 & ½yrs Imprisonment)
>> SS Untersturmführer Karl Schmidt (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Unterscharführer Johann Schobert (Acquitted)
>> SS Unterscharführer Heinrich Schoppe (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Obersturmführer Vincenz Schöttl (Executed by the Allies)
>> SS Unterscharführer Richard Schröder (10yrs Imprisonment)
>> SS Untersturmführer Wilhelm Schulte (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Unterscharführer Heinz - Arthur Willi - Schulz (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Unterscharführer Hans Schumacher (Executed by the Poles)
>> SS Untersturmführer Hans Schurz (Died - Not Prosecuted)
>> SS Hauptsturmführer Heinrich Schwarz (Executed by the French)
>> SS Obersturmführer Johann Schwarzhüber (Executed by the Allies)
>> SS Hauptsturmführer Siegfried Schwela (Died of Typhus)
>> SS Hauptsturmführer Fritz Seidler (KIA by Russians)
>> SS Unterscharführer Robert Seitz (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Obersturmführer Max Sell (Died - Not Prosecuted)
>> SS Hauptscharführer Karl Seufert (Life Imprisonment)
>> SS Schütze Emil Simczek (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Oberscharführer Willi Stark (10yrs Imprisonment)
>> SS Unterscharführer Karl - Fritz Steinberg (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Unterscharführer Friedrich Stiewitz (Died - Not Prosecuted)
>> SS Unterscharführer Paul Szczurek (Executed by the Poles)
>> SS Unterscharführer Adolf Taube (Fate Unknown)
>> SS Sturmbannführer Karl Heinz - Joachim Tauber (4yrs Imprisonment)
>> SS Unterscharführer Adolf Theuer (Executed by the Czechs)
>> SS Sturmbannführer Kurt Erich - Willy Uhlenbroock (Not Prosecuted)
>> SS Sturmmann Rudolf Viehweger (Fate
>>
>> read more »...
> 
> 


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Sara Salzman wrote:
> In article ,
>  Protagonist  wrote:
> 
>> Of course Hitler exterminated a few Jews
> 
> And there you have it. 
> 
> How many is "a few," hmm?
> 
> I imagine it must be more than one million, since the Einsatzgruppen's 
> own documents show that's how many THEY killed....
> 
> Sara
> 

Not 6 million for sure, if that's what you trying to point it!
JS


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Joe wrote:
> On Jun 10, 8:13 pm, Sara Salzman  wrote:
>> In article ,
>>
>>  Protagonist  wrote:
>>> Of course Hitler exterminated a few Jews
>> And there you have it.
>>
>> How many is "a few," hmm?
>>
>> I imagine it must be more than one million, since the Einsatzgruppen's
>> own documents show that's how many THEY killed....
>>
>> Sara
> 
> Eichmann told Dr Hoettl in Budapest in 1944 that the round total was 6
> million.

Right! Also, my grand mother told me, stork brings all the babies and 
drops them down through the chimneys.
That's how babies are born!
Santa Clause lives in the North Pole, believe it or not!
JS

> 
>> --
>> Ordinarily he was insane, but he had lucid moments when he was merely stupid.
>>   - Heinrich Heine, eerily summing up the persona of "Ben Cramer"
> 
> 


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Joe wrote:
> On Jun 10, 1:28 pm, MICHAEL  wrote:
>> On Jun 10, 3:55 am, Protagonist  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> McVay should post this on his Nizkor site!
>>> JS
>>> lya Ehrenburg's, the leading Soviet propagandist of the Second World War
>>> who incited Soviet soldiers to treat Germans as sub-human:
>>> Quote:
>>> The Germans are not human beings. From now on the word German means to
>>> use the most terrible oath. From now on the word German strikes us to
>>> the quick. We shall not speak any more. We shall not get excited. We
>>> shall kill. If you have not killed at least one German a day, you have
>>> wasted that day ... If you cannot kill your German with a bullet, kill
>>> him with your bayonet. If there is calm on your part of the front, or if
>>> you are waiting for the fighting, kill a German in the meantime. If you
>>> leave a German alive, the German will hang a Russian and rape a Russian
>>> woman. If you kill one German, kill another -- there is nothing more
>>> amusing for us than a heap of German corpses. Do not count days, do not
>>> count kilometers. Count only the number of Germans killed by you. Kill
>>> the German -- that is your grandmother's request. Kill the German --
>>> that is your child's prayer. Kill the German -- that is your
>>> motherland's loud request. Do not miss. Do not let through. Kill.
>> In war Protagonist both sides seek to dehumanize the enemy. Since Nazi
>> Germany
>> invaded Russia I would say this propaganda had some effectiveness.
>> Hitler was
>> burning on fire and not thinking clearly; he underestimated both the
>> Soviets and
>> the Americans.
>>
>> Michael Ragland- Hide quoted text -
>>
> 
> 
> Invading the USSR(which included alot more than just "Russia")
> was Hilter's biggest blunder. He ignored what happened to Napoleon and
> Charles of Sweden before him.
> 
> Believe it or not, the German Army was not provided with any winter
> clothing.
> 
> 

Far as I know, operation Barbarossa started  a month late, Jun 22 1941, 
and should've finished by the winter of 1941.
During Barbarossa, weather was a main enemy, unusual harsh winter, 
Russia had no roads, German troops and equipment stuck in the mud, 
delayed every thing.

 >>It is sometimes argued that the fatal decision of the operation was 
the postponement from the original date of May 15 because Hitler wanted 
to intervene against an anti-German coup in Yugoslavia and Greek 
advances against Mussolini's occupation of Albania. However, this was 
just one of the reasons for the postponement — the other was the late 
spring of 1941 in Russia, compounded by particularly rainy weather 
during June 1941 which made a number of roads in western parts of the 
Soviet Union impassable to heavy vehicles. During the campaign, Hitler 
ordered the main thrust toward Moscow to be diverted southward in order 
to help the southern army group capture Ukraine. This move delayed the 
assault on the Soviet capital, although it also helped to secure Army 
Group Center's southern flank. By the time they turned their sights on 
Moscow, the fierce resistance of the Red Army, assisted by the mud 
following the autumn rains and eventually the winter snowfall, ground 
their advance to a halt.<<


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Sara Salzman wrote:
> In article ,
>  Protagonist  wrote:
> 
>> Sara Salzman wrote:
>>> In article ,
>>>  Protagonist  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Of course Hitler exterminated a few Jews
>>> And there you have it. 
>>>
>>> How many is "a few," hmm?
>>>
>>> I imagine it must be more than one million, since the Einsatzgruppen's 
>>> own documents show that's how many THEY killed....
>>>
>>> Sara
>>>
>> Not 6 million for sure, if that's what you trying to point it!
>> JS
> 
> No, Szaki, I'm pointing out the lengths you will go to in order to 
> minimize the deaths of millions of Jews.
> 
> In the intelligent world, "a few" means two or three.
> 

You and the whole Zionist run world so concerned about Jewish death, 
willing to put historians in jail and build Holohoax museums all over 
the world for them, even after 60 years.
My question to you - how many Germans or Hungarians died in WW2 or the 
Soviet gulags, even after WW2?
yes, I know your answers Sara, - Who cares?
Well, my answer to you, who cares about the Jews and their lies about 
the Holocau$t!
Since they started WW1-2, your Jewish bankers!
JS



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Joe Bruno wrote:
> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
> news:f6adnQ-aNOyfevHbnZ2dnUVZ_tSunZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Joe wrote:
>>> On Jun 10, 1:28 pm, MICHAEL  wrote:
>>>> On Jun 10, 3:55 am, Protagonist  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> McVay should post this on his Nizkor site!
>>>>> JS
>>>>> lya Ehrenburg's, the leading Soviet propagandist of the Second World 
>>>>> War
>>>>> who incited Soviet soldiers to treat Germans as sub-human:
>>>>> Quote:
>>>>> The Germans are not human beings. From now on the word German means to
>>>>> use the most terrible oath. From now on the word German strikes us to
>>>>> the quick. We shall not speak any more. We shall not get excited. We
>>>>> shall kill. If you have not killed at least one German a day, you have
>>>>> wasted that day ... If you cannot kill your German with a bullet, kill
>>>>> him with your bayonet. If there is calm on your part of the front, or 
>>>>> if
>>>>> you are waiting for the fighting, kill a German in the meantime. If you
>>>>> leave a German alive, the German will hang a Russian and rape a Russian
>>>>> woman. If you kill one German, kill another -- there is nothing more
>>>>> amusing for us than a heap of German corpses. Do not count days, do not
>>>>> count kilometers. Count only the number of Germans killed by you. Kill
>>>>> the German -- that is your grandmother's request. Kill the German --
>>>>> that is your child's prayer. Kill the German -- that is your
>>>>> motherland's loud request. Do not miss. Do not let through. Kill.
>>>> In war Protagonist both sides seek to dehumanize the enemy. Since Nazi
>>>> Germany
>>>> invaded Russia I would say this propaganda had some effectiveness.
>>>> Hitler was
>>>> burning on fire and not thinking clearly; he underestimated both the
>>>> Soviets and
>>>> the Americans.
>>>>
>>>> Michael Ragland- Hide quoted text -
>>>>
>>>
>>> Invading the USSR(which included alot more than just "Russia")
>>> was Hilter's biggest blunder. He ignored what happened to Napoleon and
>>> Charles of Sweden before him.
>>>
>>> Believe it or not, the German Army was not provided with any winter
>>> clothing.
>>>
>>>
>> Far as I know, operation Barbarossa started  a month late, Jun 22 1941, 
>> and should've finished by the winter of 1941.
>> During Barbarossa, weather was a main enemy, unusual harsh winter, Russia 
>> had no roads,
> 
> 
> Bullshit. The Red Army had roads to move their tanks.

Ja! Backwards! ...or just left it there and run!


> 
> German troops and equipment stuck in the mud,
>> delayed every thing.
>>
>>>> It is sometimes argued that the fatal decision of the operation was
>> the postponement from the original date of May 15 because Hitler wanted to 
>> intervene against an anti-German coup in Yugoslavia and Greek advances 
>> against Mussolini's occupation of Albania. However, this was just one of 
>> the reasons for the postponement — the other was the late spring of 1941 
>> in Russia, compounded by particularly rainy weather during June 1941 which 
>> made a number of roads in western parts of the Soviet Union impassable to 
>> heavy vehicles. During the campaign, Hitler ordered the main thrust toward 
>> Moscow to be diverted southward in order to help the southern army group 
>> capture Ukraine. This move delayed the assault on the Soviet capital, 
>> although it also helped to secure Army Group Center's southern flank. By 
>> the time they turned their sights on Moscow, the fierce resistance of the 
>> Red Army, assisted by the mud following the autumn rains and eventually 
>> the winter snowfall, ground their advance to a halt.<<
> 
> 
> 
> You don't know your history. Napoleon actually took Moscow, but the Russians 
> had already left. Then the Russians set Moscow on fire.
> 
> You don't know much about military planning, either. If you have an army in 
> Russia, you have to feed and supply it.

Wow! Your a genius!
Are you sure an army of 600,000, can't live on only pure air?
Maybe that's what Napoleon or Hitler thought?
They should've picked you as a adviser, he?

> The Russians simply destroyed the long supply lines. They destroyed all the 
> food supplies. The French had to retreat and they had no supplies.

You don't no shit, old dog bone!
Napoleons army wasn't just French, consisted of many European armies, 
huge, 600,000 all together.
Russian army was only half the size, that's why they were afraid to 
attack Napoleon, they just nipped it, until before Moscow, where they 
were beaten.
True, Moscow was burned and Napoleon had to retreat.
It's the weather that beat him, not the Russian army!
JS




> 
> The same thing happened to the Germans.
> 
> The lesson is that the Russians never surrender to an invader 

Than stay home and and enjoy your big land, from the Specific to Europe.
Don't try to run the world and swallow up small countries, you'll get 
burned.
JS

> 
> 


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http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=56629

The above illustrates the essentially tendentious nature of the concept 
of "Holocaust denial". It is defined in such a way as to preclude any 
questioning of established interpretations of what happened during the 
Second World War.

Only a wilfully blind person would dispute that some millions of 
European Jews perished during the war while under German control, the 
majority being actively killed either by shooting (the more common 
methodology) or by poison-gassing. But it perfectly possible to question 
whether the German Government ever had a comprehensive extermination 
plan aimed at all Jews under its control; it is perfectly possible to 
explain the mass mortality of the Jews without recourse to the 
postulation of such a plan.

What we can say is that the German Government had a policy of making all 
of German-dominated Europe "Jew-free" by removing all the Jews living on 
that territory and sending them somewhere else. The removal of all Jews 
was called the "Endlösung der Judenfrage in Europa" (the final solution 
of the Jewish Question in Europe), a term that was used officially since 
at least 1938; a Foreign Ministry with that title was started in 1938, 
and on it was found the one surviving copy of the minutes of the Wannsee 
Conference.

The policy of a "Jew-free" Europe was to be achieved before the war by 
emigration ,and after the outbreak of war by forced mass-deportation to 
locations outside Europe, for which two plans existed, one for 
deportation to Madagascar, started in 1940, and one for deportation to 
Siberia, started at the beginning of 1941 and superseding the Madagascar 
Plan.

Thus, if Britain had agreed to make peace with Germany in 1940, the 
Madagascar Plan would have been implemented, and the Jews of the part of 
Europe dominated by Germany (ie west of the Soviet border) would have 
been resettled on the highlands of Madagascar, an area as pleasant as 
the highlands of Kenya.

If Germany had defeated the Soviet Union in 1941, it would have 
compelled the rump Russian state existing to the east of the Urals to 
take all the Jews of Europe (if they had not already been sent to 
Madagascar).

German documents, such as Rosenberg's "Braune Mappe", or Stahlecker's 
letter to Lohse of 8 August 1941, demonstrate conclusively that the 
German plan was to solve the Jewish Question through expulsion to a 
destination outside Europe after the expected victory over the Soviet 
Union and subsequently over Britain. In the meantime, the Soviet Jews 
were to be ghettoised, and those capable of work were to be used for 
rural work, such as forestry in the White Sea area or for draining the 
Prypiat' Marshes. The deportation of non-Soviet Jews into the occupied 
Soviet areas and subsequently across the Urals was likewise not to 
commence until after the expected German victory.

The German invaders of the Soviet Union did carry out some large-scale 
massacres of Soviet Jews, but the purpose was to panic those Jews who 
had not already fled or been evacuated by the Soviet authorities into 
packing their bags and fleeing over the Urals. That is precisely what 
Hitler meant when he said to his cronies in October 1941, "It is a good 
thing if we are preceded by the terror that we are going to exterminate 
Jewry".

Why was it a good thing if the advancing German forces were preceded by 
terror? Because the Jews would run away, leaving the territory 
"Jew-free", and thereby obviating the need to go to the trouble of 
ghettoising them.

If the German aim had been physical extermination of the Soviet Jews, a 
preceding terror that caused the Jews to flee would have been 
counter-productive, it would not have been a "good thing" as Hitler 
termed it.

However, the course of events was that Germany did not defeat the Soviet 
Union, and it was left with millions of Jews on its hands, Jews who were 
eating scarce food and occupying scarce living space. It was at that 
point that proposals to kill a segment of the Jewish populations of 
various locations, generally those that could not be used for labour, 
began to emerge.

The available German documentation shows that those proposals came 
originally from local German occupation authorities which were faced 
with the immediate problem of storing the "warehoused" Jews. For 
example, Greiser's letter to Himmler of 31 May 1942 shows that it was he 
who had suggested "special treatment" (A technical term meaning 
extra-judicial execution with the approval of the RSHA) of 100,000 Jews 
of Reichsgau Wartheland (about one-third of the Jewish population of 
that area); Greiser's request led to the establishment of the 
extermination centre at Kulmhof (Chelmno).

In the case of the ghettoised Jewish population of the 
Generalgouvernement, the Goebbels diary entry of 27 March 1942 shows 
that the proposal accepted by the German Government was the 
"liquidation" of that part of the population assessed as unusable for 
forced labour, estimated at 60%, and that Globocnik had been appointed 
to carry out that action. In other words, it was not total 
extermination, and only the Jews of Poland were affected by the action.

There is no causal relationship between the development of 
poison-gassing as a killing methodology and the various proposals to 
drastically reduce the number of "warehoused" Jews in the East; the 
construction of gas-chambers does not prove the existence of a 
comprehensive plan to physically exterminate the entire Jewish 
population under German control.

The historical fact is that the homicidal gassing methodology, both that 
using CO and that using HCN, were developed for purposes totally 
unrelated to policy regarding the surplus Jews. The CO gassing 
methodology was developed initially for "euthanasing" a proportion of 
the institutionalised population of Germany, in particular those that 
were unable because of mental illness or grave personality disorders to 
perform any work in their own support and hence represented an 
unbearable burden in wartime. The "gas van" using its own exhaust as the 
killing medium was developed to "euthanase" inmates of mental hospitals 
in the conquered Soviet territories. That methodology was later applied 
to "euthanasing" Jews unable to work, but that was an afterthought. It 
was also used on sick concentration-camp inmates despatched to the 
Euthanasia centres.

Likewise, the use of the HCN in Zyklon-B for homicidal purposes was 
initially developed at Auschwitz for the purpose of killing Soviet POWs 
who had been weeded out of the POW camps as "dangerous Communists" and 
had been sent to the concentration camps for "Sonderbehandlung". The 
methodology was then used on sick inmates of Auschwitz camp under Aktion 
14f13, which then came to include masses of Jews who arrived at 
Auschwitz and were immediately or subsequently selected as unfit for labour.

Thus, it is entirely possible to question the existence of a definitive 
German Government decision for a comprehensive physical extermination of 
all Jews under German control, without disputing the reality of a 
million-fold Jewish mortality during the Second World War, including the 
death of many hundreds of thousands, possibly over one million, in 
gas-chambers.



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  DePaul denies controversial professor

By ASHLEY M. HEHER, Associated Press WriterSun Jun 10, 8:35 PM ET

A DePaul University professor who has accused some Jews of improperly 
using the legacy of the Holocaust to get compensation payments has been 
denied tenure after a drawn-out public fight.

Norman Finkelstein, whose work led to a long-running public feud with a 
Harvard law professor and lawyer famous for representing O.J. Simpson, 
said he was disappointed by the faculty panel's 4-3 decision.

"They can deny me tenure, deny me the right to teach," the 53-year-old 
told the Chicago Sun-Times. "But they will never stop me from saying 
what I believe."

Finkelstein's most recent book, "Beyond Chutzpah: On the Misuse of 
Anti-Semitism and the Abuse of History," is largely an attack on Alan 
Dershowitz's "The Case for Israel." In it, Finkelstein argues Israel 
uses the outcry over perceived anti-Semitism as a weapon to stifle 
criticism.

Dershowitz, who threatened to sue the book's publisher for libel, has 
urged DePaul officials to reject Finkelstein's tenure bid.

"This should not have been a close case," he said in an e-mail Sunday. 
"Finkelstein's only academic output is ad hominem attacks on ideological 
enemies. ... The only reason this appeared close was because outsiders 
>from the hard left mounted a political campaign on his behalf."

The debate over his tenure raised the ire of many in academic and 
religious circles, and blogs and petitions that both support and deride 
him have appeared on the Internet.

On his Web site Sunday, Finkelstein posted a letter explaining why the 
panel denied him tenure at the Catholic university.

The three-page note cites Finkelstein's "deliberately hurtful" 
scholarship along with his lack of involvement with the school and his 
tendency for public clashes with other scholars.

"In the opinion of those opposing tenure, your unprofessional personal 
attacks divert the conversation away from consideration of ideas, and 
polarize and simplify conversations that deserve layered and subtle 
consideration," school President Dennis Holtschneider wrote in a letter 
dated June 8.

In a statement issued by the university, Holtschneider noted the heated 
debate surrounding Finkelstein's tenure.

"Over the past several months, there has been considerable outside 
interest and public debate concerning this decision," he said. "This 
attention was unwelcome and inappropriate and had no impact on either 
the process or the outcome of this case."

An e-mail message left Sunday for Finkelstein, who lives in New York, 
was not returned. A telephone recording said his Brooklyn phone had been 
temporarily disconnected.

The son of Holocaust survivors, Finkelstein earned his doctorate from 
Princeton in 1988. He published five books and taught political theory 
at DePaul since 2001, school officials said.

University spokeswoman Denise Mattson said Sunday that Finkelstein's 
teaching term expires next June, but he can elect to leave his post 
immediately.

He was one of nine faculty members to be denied tenure or promotions 
this year, she said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070611/ap_on_re_us/depaul_professor


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Binyamin Cramer wrote:
> The idiot cohen has been spouting on the moerated yid group that Saddam 
> used gas on the Kurds in Halabja, which of course, is a damned lie.
> 
> Watch, digest and weep cohen, you lying, dyslexic, thick Irish cunt.
> 
> http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=N3hRaDye4zA
> 

Yes! I posted this video a while back.
Very clear, US made an example out of Sadam and US wanted him dead. 
Trial was a show piece, that's all. Sadam should've been tried at the 
International court in Europe, like the Serb president, Milosovich and 
not by the Iraqi puppet regime.
Any way the final decision of the court, for his death sentence was, 
executing some 144 Kurd civilians, found in a mass grave.
After the US invasion of Iraq, Turks invaded illegally and bombed, 
killed the Kurds many-many times in Iraq, I don't see any Turkish 
minister, officer on court for that.
That's how the World is, depends who's side your on.
JS


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Young woman asks physician if it's possible to get pregnant during anal sex.
Doc replies, "Of course! Where do you think lawyers come from??"


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TurkeyBoy wrote:
> Did McVay get his raise or just buckled under to his ziomasters?
> 
> Either way, glad to see that the holohustler posts are back.
> 
> Have a nice vegetarian day!
> 

His Zionist script program ran out of Holohoax subject to post!
He has to make up some more stories, takes time!
JS


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MICHAEL wrote:
> 
> http://www.deathcamps.info/Experiments/experiments.htm
> 
> 
> Are you Holocaust deniers cowards? When I provide evidence of fake
> Nazi medical experiments I expect to be congtratulated and patted on
> the back. Good job. Well done fellow! Why are you running away from
> this fradulent evidence? Where is David Michael; Topaz; Fenimore; Miss
> Sunshine; Carla Shnieder; Bejjamin Cramer. I can't believe Cramer is a
> worm. Look at the pictures Cramer? They were altered by the
> "yehoodies".
> 
> Michael Ragland
> 

Those smiling kids, look like did some chimney sweeping!
JS


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Ken McVay wrote:
> [Follow-ups set]
> 
> June 16
> 1943
> 
> The last Jewish employees of the `Reichsvereinigung' (see
> June 10), previously exempt from deportation, and most of
> the remaining employees of the Berlin Jewish community are
> deported to Terezin (Theresienstadt). Six thousand still
> remain alive in Berlin. (USHMM 1993, 36)

Alive???!!!
God! These Germans are so inefficient!

> 
> The Papal Nuncio in Vichy, France, reports to the Vatican
> that foreign Jews are being transported to Drancy, then
> deported, and are never heard from again. (Ibid.)

Disappeared? They live here in the good old USA, eating Kosher food!
> 
> 1944
> 
> Jews are transferred from the Sabotiki ghetto in Yugoslavia
> to a transit camp at Bachmasu, Hungary. (USHMM 1994, 46)

How many? 1-2-3?
I Love Mcvay's report accuracies!
6 million Jew died +/- 5 million!


> 
> 
> 
>                        Work Cited
> 
> USHMM (United States Holocaust Memorial Museum). Fifty
>    Years Ago: Revolt Amid the Darkness: Days of Remembrance,
>    April 18-25, 1993. Washington, D.C.: 1993
>                               
> USHMM (United States Holocaust Memorial Museum). Fifty
>    Years Ago: Darkness Before Dawn: Days of Remembrance, April
>    3-10, 1994. Washington, D.C.: 1994


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 >>>PARIS — Baron Guy de Rothschild, who managed his family's French 
banking empire and saw it taken over first during the Nazi occupation 
and then by a Socialist government 40 years later, has died. He was 98.<<<

  - Looks like not only the Nazis, but the French socialist didn't like 
him, in the 80's!
Seems to me Jews all ways run for cover to NY!
But Jews got their new president in France, Sarkozy!

 >>In 1981, the bank switched to government hands through 
nationalization under Socialist President Francois Mitterrand.

Rothschild left France and briefly moved to New York, after writing an 
editorial in Le Monde accusing the Socialists of falling victim to 
French anti-Semitism.<<

http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2007/06/14/781403-banking-patriarch-guy-de-rothschild-dies


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1933: Rothschild controlled IBM supply machines to the Nazis which 
produce punch cards to help organize and manage the initial 
identification and social expulsion of Jews, the confiscation of their 
property and their extermination.

On August 7, in the New York Times, Samuel Untermyer states the 
following, “Revolting as it is, it would be an interesting study in 
psychology to analyze the motives, other than fear and cowardice, that 
have prompted Jewish bankers to lend money to Germany as they are now doing.

It is in part their money that is being used by the Hitler regime in its 
reckless, wicked campaign of propaganda to make the world anti-Semitic; 
with that money they have invaded Great Britain, the United States and 
other countries where they have established newspapers, subsidized 
agents and otherwise are spending untold millions in spreading their 
infamous creed.”

Interestingly Untermyer was a Zionist credited with helping bring the 
USA into World War 2.


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1943: February 18th, Zionist, Izaak Greenbaum, head of the Jewish Agency 
Rescue Committee, in a speech to the Zionist Executive Council states, 
“If I am asked, could you give from the UJA (United Jewish Appeal) 
monies to rescue Jews, I say, no and I say again no!”

He would go onto state,

“One cow in Palestine is worth more than all the Jews in Poland!”

This is not a surprise, the whole idea of Zionist support for the 
slaughter of innocent Jews was to scare the survivors into believing 
that their only place of safety was Israel.

How else do you think the Zionists could ensure Jews leave the beautiful 
European cities in which they live, in order to settle in a desert!


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Richard Warren wrote:
> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
> news:W-idneyjW-CrcenbnZ2dnUVZ_gSdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>> PARIS — Baron Guy de Rothschild, who managed his family's French
>> banking empire and saw it taken over first during the Nazi occupation and 
>> then by a Socialist government 40 years later, has died. He was 98.<<<
>>
>>  - Looks like not only the Nazis, but the French socialist didn't like 
>> him, in the 80's!
>> Seems to me Jews all ways run for cover to NY!
>> But Jews got their new president in France, Sarkozy!
>>
>>>> In 1981, the bank switched to government hands through
>> nationalization under Socialist President Francois Mitterrand.
>>
>> Rothschild left France and briefly moved to New York, after writing an 
>> editorial in Le Monde accusing the Socialists of falling victim to French 
>> anti-Semitism.<<
>>
>> http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2007/06/14/781403-banking-patriarch-guy-de-rothschild-dies
> 
> 
> 
> It's jews, jews, jews all the time with you, Julius.  Do you dream about 
> jews too? 
> 
> 

Only few million Jews on this world, but they all ways stair in my face!
JS


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Joe wrote:
> On Jun 17, 1:09 am, Protagonist  wrote:
>>  >>>PARIS - Baron Guy de Rothschild, who managed his family's French
>> banking empire and saw it taken over first during the Nazi occupation
>> and then by a Socialist government 40 years later, has died. He was 98.<<<
>>
>>   - Looks like not only the Nazis, but the French socialist didn't like
>> him, in the 80's!
>> Seems to me Jews all ways run for cover to NY!
>> But Jews got their new president in France, Sarkozy!
>>
>>  >>In 1981, the bank switched to government hands through
>> nationalization under Socialist President Francois Mitterrand.
>>
>> Rothschild left France and briefly moved to New York, after writing an
>> editorial in Le Monde accusing the Socialists of falling victim to
>> French anti-Semitism.<<
>>
>> http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2007/06/14/781403-banking-patriarch-guy...
> 
> 
> Banking is something socialists don't believe in.
> 

Mainly when, Rothschild loans the money!
French had a quite a test of it before.
..or Andrew Jackson, 7th US President:
His head stone reads: I killed the Bank!
Means, the Rothschild central banking, all though only for 70 years!
JS


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Joe wrote:
> On Jun 17, 9:16 am, Protagonist  wrote:
>> Joe wrote:
>>> On Jun 17, 1:09 am, Protagonist  wrote:
>>>>  >>>PARIS - Baron Guy de Rothschild, who managed his family's French
>>>> banking empire and saw it taken over first during the Nazi occupation
>>>> and then by a Socialist government 40 years later, has died. He was 98.<<<
>>>>   - Looks like not only the Nazis, but the French socialist didn't like
>>>> him, in the 80's!
>>>> Seems to me Jews all ways run for cover to NY!
>>>> But Jews got their new president in France, Sarkozy!
>>>>  >>In 1981, the bank switched to government hands through
>>>> nationalization under Socialist President Francois Mitterrand.
>>>> Rothschild left France and briefly moved to New York, after writing an
>>>> editorial in Le Monde accusing the Socialists of falling victim to
>>>> French anti-Semitism.<<
>>>> http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2007/06/14/781403-banking-patriarch-guy...
>>> Banking is something socialists don't believe in.
>> Mainly when, Rothschild loans the money!
>> French had a quite a test of it before.
>> ..or Andrew Jackson, 7th US President:
>> His head stone reads: I killed the Bank!
>> Means, the Rothschild central banking, all though only for 70 years!
>> JS- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
> 
> 
> 
> No. The socialist system does not allow for banking.
> 

Yes, I know! Socialist system use tree leafs for payment, retard!
Every one hates Jewish bankers!
JS


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Joe Bruno wrote:
> Under socialism, no one is allowed to charge interest on money loaned, you 
> idiot and there is no stock market, since all production facilities are 
> publicly owned.
> 

i grew up in socialist system, retardo!
They do charge interest for loaning money, but so much that no one 
borrows, rather steal it.
You can have small business in socialism , if you willing to pay 70% 
taxes. Some people do!
In socialism government wants to be in control of the economy and not 
the Rothschilds or some other foreign entity!
But there are different variety of socialism, from communism (extreme 
left) to (center)market socialism.
JS



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Joe Bruno wrote:
> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
> news:EpydnR6dcM-l9ujbnZ2dnUVZ_rOqnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Joe Bruno wrote:
>>> Under socialism, no one is allowed to charge interest on money loaned, 
>>> you idiot and there is no stock market, since all production facilities 
>>> are publicly owned.
>>>
>> i grew up in socialist system, retardo!
> 
> Just because they called it "socialism" doesn't mean it was, moron.
> Take courses in Economics like I did.
> 
>> They do charge interest for loaning money, but so much that no one 
>> borrows, rather steal it.
>> You can have small business in socialism , if you willing to pay 70% 
>> taxes. Some people do!
> 
> 
> The Communists allowed small business for a time and then outlawed it, 
> idiot.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Retardo, even if they called it communism, it wasn't. It was socialism 
and they were building communism.
In socialism any one can borrow money. You thinking of the hard line 
Stalinist or the Mao Chines gov.
Mitterrand, only nationalized large industries and banks, economy was 
more restricted, but money still can be borrowed.
During his presidency, France had a protectionist economy.
JS


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Chaves craps on the WB, IMF, Rothschild money!
Haha!
Can keep you in debt to infinity!
JS

Zoellick: Venezuela economy in trouble

By IOAN GRILLO, Associated Press WriterSat Jun 16, 11:36 PM ET

Robert Zoellick, the U.S. choice to head the World Bank, warned Saturday 
that Venezuela's economic and political troubles were growing under 
President Hugo Chavez's leftist government.

"It's a country where economic problems are mounting and we are seeing 
(that) on the political and press side it's not moving in a healthy 
direction," Zoellick told a news conference in Mexico City.

He also suggested that the World Bank's influence would not suffer if 
Chavez goes through with his plan to pull Venezuela out of the lending 
institution.

"If a country feels it doesn't need or want the services of the 
international financial institutions then that's their choice. 
Venezuelans have a great amount of oil money," Zoellick said. "I've 
found no shortage of countries interested in trying to work with the 
World Bank."

Chavez has said the World Bank is a tool of the United States that keeps 
poor nations in debt. He has set up a commission to examine leaving the 
institution.

Chavez, who has been blessed with high oil prices for most of his eight 
years in power, insists his socialist policies have improved the lives 
of poor Venezuelans. The country's economy grew by 10.3 percent last 
year, the fastest in the region, and government statistics show poverty 
has declined.

Critics say Chavez's policies are hindering job creation and scaring 
businesses with threats of expropriation. He has also come under 
criticism for failing to renew the broadcast license of an 
opposition-aligned television station, accusing the network of backing a 
failed 2002 coup.

At the news conference, Zoellick also vowed to fight corruption in World 
Bank member states and repair the institution's reputation after the 
turmoil surrounding its outgoing president, Paul Wolfowitz.

The World Bank's 24-member board is expected to elect Zoellick to 
succeed Wolfowitz, who steps down June 30 after a scandal over a hefty 
pay raise he arranged for his girlfriend, a bank employee.

Dialogue with member states and World Bank staff will help repair the 
damage, Zoellick said.

"There has undoubtedly been a period of turmoil. Some people feel 
frustrated, some feel wounded," he said. "There needs to be a 
considerable amount of time spent talking to people."

But he said there would be some continuity from Wolfowitz's tenure, 
including efforts to fight corruption linked to loans.

"Nobody wants corruption and bad governments," he said. "In developing 
countries, in Africa, and every place I went, everybody said corruption 
steals from the poor."

Zoellick, 53, previously served as Bush's trade representative and was 
the No. 2 official at the State Department before he left to take a job 
on Wall Street last year.


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Richard Warren wrote:
> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
> news:C-udnYrDwbE0-OvbnZ2dnUVZ_gSdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Chaves craps on the WB, IMF, Rothschild money!
>> Haha!
>> Can keep you in debt to infinity!
>> JS
>>
>> Zoellick: Venezuela economy in trouble
>>
>> By IOAN GRILLO, Associated Press WriterSat Jun 16, 11:36 PM ET
>>
>> Robert Zoellick, the U.S. choice to head the World Bank, warned Saturday 
>> that Venezuela's economic and political troubles were growing under 
>> President Hugo Chavez's leftist government.
>>
>> "It's a country where economic problems are mounting and we are seeing 
>> (that) on the political and press side it's not moving in a healthy 
>> direction," Zoellick told a news conference in Mexico City.
>>
>> He also suggested that the World Bank's influence would not suffer if 
>> Chavez goes through with his plan to pull Venezuela out of the lending 
>> institution.
>>
>> "If a country feels it doesn't need or want the services of the 
>> international financial institutions then that's their choice. Venezuelans 
>> have a great amount of oil money," Zoellick said. "I've found no shortage 
>> of countries interested in trying to work with the World Bank."
>>
>> Chavez has said the World Bank is a tool of the United States that keeps 
>> poor nations in debt. He has set up a commission to examine leaving the 
>> institution.
>>
>> Chavez, who has been blessed with high oil prices for most of his eight 
>> years in power, insists his socialist policies have improved the lives of 
>> poor Venezuelans. The country's economy grew by 10.3 percent last year, 
>> the fastest in the region, and government statistics show poverty has 
>> declined.
>>
>> Critics say Chavez's policies are hindering job creation and scaring 
>> businesses with threats of expropriation. He has also come under criticism 
>> for failing to renew the broadcast license of an opposition-aligned 
>> television station, accusing the network of backing a failed 2002 coup.
>>
>> At the news conference, Zoellick also vowed to fight corruption in World 
>> Bank member states and repair the institution's reputation after the 
>> turmoil surrounding its outgoing president, Paul Wolfowitz.
>>
>> The World Bank's 24-member board is expected to elect Zoellick to succeed 
>> Wolfowitz, who steps down June 30 after a scandal over a hefty pay raise 
>> he arranged for his girlfriend, a bank employee.
>>
>> Dialogue with member states and World Bank staff will help repair the 
>> damage, Zoellick said.
>>
>> "There has undoubtedly been a period of turmoil. Some people feel 
>> frustrated, some feel wounded," he said. "There needs to be a considerable 
>> amount of time spent talking to people."
>>
>> But he said there would be some continuity from Wolfowitz's tenure, 
>> including efforts to fight corruption linked to loans.
>>
>> "Nobody wants corruption and bad governments," he said. "In developing 
>> countries, in Africa, and every place I went, everybody said corruption 
>> steals from the poor."
>>
>> Zoellick, 53, previously served as Bush's trade representative and was the 
>> No. 2 official at the State Department before he left to take a job on 
>> Wall Street last year.
> 
> 
> 
> Zoellick is not a jew, dear Julius. 

You suppose, Duke don't know what he's talking about?
http://www.davidduke.com/general/extreme-jewish_203.html#more-203
JS


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Joe wrote:
> On Jun 17, 11:23 am, Protagonist  wrote:
>> Joe Bruno wrote:
>>> "Protagonist"  wrote in message
>>> news:EpydnR6dcM-l9ujbnZ2dnUVZ_rOqnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>> Joe Bruno wrote:
>>>>> Under socialism, no one is allowed to charge interest on money loaned,
>>>>> you idiot and there is no stock market, since all production facilities
>>>>> are publicly owned.
>>>> i grew up in socialist system, retardo!
>>> Just because they called it "socialism" doesn't mean it was, moron.
>>> Take courses in Economics like I did.
>>>> They do charge interest for loaning money, but so much that no one
>>>> borrows, rather steal it.
>>>> You can have small business in socialism , if you willing to pay 70%
>>>> taxes. Some people do!
>>> The Communists allowed small business for a time and then outlawed it,
>>> idiot.
>> Retardo, even if they called it communism, it wasn't. It was socialism
>> and they were building communism.
>> In socialism any one can borrow money. You thinking of the hard line
>> Stalinist or the Mao Chines gov.
>> Mitterrand, only nationalized large industries and banks, economy was
>> more restricted, but money still can be borrowed.
>> During his presidency, France had a protectionist economy.
>> JS- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
> 
> 
> 
> I didn't say you couldn't borrow money. I said you couldn't charge
> interest.
> 
> 

When you borrow money, even in socialism, there is interest charged.
My in-law borrowed a small amount from the local savings bank during 
socialism in E-Europe to partly finance a car, he was charged 24% interest!
Not very encouraging, eh!
JS


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Binyamin Cramer wrote:
> 
> "Joe"  wrote in message 
> news:1182171036.371535.327600@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jun 17, 11:23 am, Protagonist  wrote:
>>> Joe Bruno wrote:
>>> > "Protagonist"  wrote in message
>>> >news:EpydnR6dcM-l9ujbnZ2dnUVZ_rOqnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> >> Joe Bruno wrote:
>>> >>> Under socialism, no one is allowed to charge interest on money 
>>> >>> loaned,
>>> >>> you idiot and there is no stock market, since all production >>> 
>>> facilities
>>> >>> are publicly owned.
>>>
>>> >> i grew up in socialist system, retardo!
>>>
>>> > Just because they called it "socialism" doesn't mean it was, moron.
>>> > Take courses in Economics like I did.
>>>
>>> >> They do charge interest for loaning money, but so much that no one
>>> >> borrows, rather steal it.
>>> >> You can have small business in socialism , if you willing to pay 70%
>>> >> taxes. Some people do!
>>>
>>> > The Communists allowed small business for a time and then outlawed it,
>>> > idiot.
>>>
>>> Retardo, even if they called it communism, it wasn't. It was socialism
>>> and they were building communism.
>>> In socialism any one can borrow money. You thinking of the hard line
>>> Stalinist or the Mao Chines gov.
>>> Mitterrand, only nationalized large industries and banks, economy was
>>> more restricted, but money still can be borrowed.
>>> During his presidency, France had a protectionist economy.
>>> JS- Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>>
>>
>> I didn't say you couldn't borrow money. I said you couldn't charge
>> interest.
> 
> The fucking socialist yids invented usury, you stupid old fart.

This guy is an idiot, don't you think Ben?
Borrow money without interest, haha!
He claims, studied economics!
JS


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Sara Salzman wrote:
> In article ,
>  Protagonist  wrote:
> 
>> Richard Warren wrote:
>>> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
>>> news:C-udnYrDwbE0-OvbnZ2dnUVZ_gSdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>> Chaves craps on the WB, IMF, Rothschild money!
>>>> Haha!
>>>> Can keep you in debt to infinity!
>>>> JS
>>>>
>>>> Zoellick: Venezuela economy in trouble
>>>>
>>>> By IOAN GRILLO, Associated Press WriterSat Jun 16, 11:36 PM ET
>>>>
>>>> Robert Zoellick, the U.S. choice to head the World Bank, warned Saturday 
>>>> that Venezuela's economic and political troubles were growing under 
>>>> President Hugo Chavez's leftist government.
>>>>
>>>> "It's a country where economic problems are mounting and we are seeing 
>>>> (that) on the political and press side it's not moving in a healthy 
>>>> direction," Zoellick told a news conference in Mexico City.
>>>>
>>>> He also suggested that the World Bank's influence would not suffer if 
>>>> Chavez goes through with his plan to pull Venezuela out of the lending 
>>>> institution.
>>>>
>>>> "If a country feels it doesn't need or want the services of the 
>>>> international financial institutions then that's their choice. Venezuelans 
>>>> have a great amount of oil money," Zoellick said. "I've found no shortage 
>>>> of countries interested in trying to work with the World Bank."
>>>>
>>>> Chavez has said the World Bank is a tool of the United States that keeps 
>>>> poor nations in debt. He has set up a commission to examine leaving the 
>>>> institution.
>>>>
>>>> Chavez, who has been blessed with high oil prices for most of his eight 
>>>> years in power, insists his socialist policies have improved the lives of 
>>>> poor Venezuelans. The country's economy grew by 10.3 percent last year, 
>>>> the fastest in the region, and government statistics show poverty has 
>>>> declined.
>>>>
>>>> Critics say Chavez's policies are hindering job creation and scaring 
>>>> businesses with threats of expropriation. He has also come under criticism 
>>>> for failing to renew the broadcast license of an opposition-aligned 
>>>> television station, accusing the network of backing a failed 2002 coup.
>>>>
>>>> At the news conference, Zoellick also vowed to fight corruption in World 
>>>> Bank member states and repair the institution's reputation after the 
>>>> turmoil surrounding its outgoing president, Paul Wolfowitz.
>>>>
>>>> The World Bank's 24-member board is expected to elect Zoellick to succeed 
>>>> Wolfowitz, who steps down June 30 after a scandal over a hefty pay raise 
>>>> he arranged for his girlfriend, a bank employee.
>>>>
>>>> Dialogue with member states and World Bank staff will help repair the 
>>>> damage, Zoellick said.
>>>>
>>>> "There has undoubtedly been a period of turmoil. Some people feel 
>>>> frustrated, some feel wounded," he said. "There needs to be a considerable 
>>>> amount of time spent talking to people."
>>>>
>>>> But he said there would be some continuity from Wolfowitz's tenure, 
>>>> including efforts to fight corruption linked to loans.
>>>>
>>>> "Nobody wants corruption and bad governments," he said. "In developing 
>>>> countries, in Africa, and every place I went, everybody said corruption 
>>>> steals from the poor."
>>>>
>>>> Zoellick, 53, previously served as Bush's trade representative and was the 
>>>> No. 2 official at the State Department before he left to take a job on 
>>>> Wall Street last year.
>>>
>>>
>>> Zoellick is not a jew, dear Julius. 
>> You suppose, Duke don't know what he's talking about?
>> http://www.davidduke.com/general/extreme-jewish_203.html#more-203
>> JS
> 
> Absolutely. Duke doesn't know what he's talking about. Zoellick is NOT 
> Jewish. Sorry if this interferes with your need to hate Jews, but it 
> happens to be the truth.
> 
> Sara
> 

Right! Do you have a Doctorate, because he has!
JS


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Ken McVay wrote:
> [Follow-ups set]
> 
> June 22
> 
> 1941
> 
> Jews from the Dorohoi district of Romania, having been branded as
> communist sympathizers and spies, were arrested and transported in 
> cattle cars to concentration camps in Tirgu and Craiova.  (Carmelly,
> 292)
>

Cattle cars, McVay?
So you think, Axis soldiers were transported to the front in first class 
cars?
JS



> 1944
> 
> Concentration camp prisoners from Alderney in the Channel
> Islands are deported via Guernsey to Sollstedt (Germany),
> arriving there in September. Initially allocated to
> Neuengamme concentration camp, they are reassigned in
> September to Buchenwald concentration camp. (The Channel
> Islands, located in the English Channel off the coast of
> Normany, were the only U.K. territory to endure German
> occupation during World War II.) (USHMM 1994, 46)
> 
> 
>                                Work Cited
> 
> Carmelly, Dr. Felicia. Shattered! 50 Years of Silence. Scarborough: 
>    Abbeyfield Publishers, 1997
> 
> USHMM (United States Holocaust Memorial Museum). Fifty
>    Years Ago: Darkness Before Dawn: Days of Remembrance, April
>    3-10, 1994. Washington, D.C.: 1994


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Michael wrote:
> 
> It has been evident for a long time now that ideology predominates as
> far as the Holocaust denier is concerned. It overrides evidence. 

Evidence? What evidence? Problem with the Holohoax stories is the lack 
of evidence!
They're just stories!

What > creates the ideology of antisemitism and Holocaust denial and white
> supremacism? Once one is indoctrinated either byself or others with
> this ideology it is virtually impossible to sway them from their
> antisemitism (hatred of an entire Jewish ethnic group). 

Don't you think, Zionist Jews earned this hatred, even before WW2?
JS


Why Holocaust
> denial. Probably Harold Covington stated it succinctly when he said,
> "The reason Holocaust denial exists is to make national socialism a
> politically acceptable alternative again." Again, another form of
> propaganda. But it doesn't stand the scruntiny of evidence on here;
> whether it is baby Ben Cramer whining like an angry child or David
> Michael running away from the crucial evidence of the Holocaust. Then
> there are others like the almost mindless Topaz/Vangel who do nothing
> but repost Jew hating/Holocaust denial articles. Has anybody come
> across a Holocaust "revisionist" who isn't a denier and isn't filled
> with a hate filled ideology.  Among anti-deniers does anybody see any
> equivalent hatred of Jews or any ethnic group on alt.revisionism? I
> say the answer is no.
> 
> Michael Ragland
> 


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Michael wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Storm water run-off [see also #20 & 24] -Storm drains capture
> rainwater flowing across streets, parking lots, and driveways. As it
> flows, the water picks up trash, dirt, oil, animal waste, fertilizer,
> and other things left behind by motor vehicles, people, and animals.
> This polluted water, known as runoff, goes directly into our streams,
> lakes, and rivers. Runoff pollution affects fish and other wildlife
> and can also contaminate drinking water supplies. Keep your home's
> driveway, sidewalks, and gutters clean and sweep up any debris.
> 

I pay people to do that, Zionist kiddo!
JS


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Michael wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.holocaust-education.de/
> 

We all know about Germany kiddo, puppet government to the Zionist 
bankers, also puts historians in jail!
JS


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Lofasz a fuledbe!
Js

Eugene Holman wrote:
> Cramer silent on double-dog dare
> by Eugene Holman
> 
> 
> VIRTUAL REALITY, June 22, 2007. The Internet community has not yet
> recovered from shock and disbelief. Revisionist Ben Cramer,
> self-proclaimed crusader against lies, deceptions, and closed-mindedness
> with respect to 20th century history and the role the Jews have played in
> it, was issued a double-dog dare, the rhetorical equivalent of a fatwa, to
> produce even one piece of evidence supporting his almost universally
> rejected position that Deborah Lipstadt libeled David Irving in her book
> *Denying the Holocaust. The Growing Assault on Truth and Memory*. Ths book
> was the object of a libel trial in London initiated by David Irving, which
> he famously lost in 2000. Cramer was told that demonstrating that the
> court ruled erroneously would be of the utmost importance to humanity, the
> overwhelming majority of which is convinced, like Deborah Lipstadt
> herself, her defense team, Judge Gray, the British Court of Appeals, libel
> lawyers, and the community of professional historians that, while
> scorchingly defaming David Irving, her book did not libel him because no
> defamatory claim in it could be demonstrated to be false, while almost all
> of them could be demonstrated to be true.
> 
> Thusfar, Cramer has failed to respond to this strongest of all possible
> challenges. The smart money says that is response will be "Lying turd",
> although a considerable contingent thinks that he will queef "Cuntface".
> "Lying cunt" is regarded as a longshot. Nobody thinks that Cramer will
> respond to the challenge by actually coming up with a shred of evidence.


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Michael wrote:
> On Jun 22, 5:20 pm, Protagonist  wrote:
>> Michael wrote:
>>
>>> It has been evident for a long time now that ideology predominates as
>>> far as the Holocaust denier is concerned. It overrides evidence.
>> Evidence? What evidence? Problem with the Holohoax stories is the lack
>> of evidence!
>> They're just stories!
> 
> 
> Ragland: Except for a few fakes they are not stories but real
> physical
> evidence. If you ever visit the USHMM you will see that it is all not
> stories. Even if you despise the USHMM you owe it to yourself to visit
> it. 

Of course, I'm running! Holocau$t happened in Europe, but Jewnited 
States has 23 Holohoax museums, while Poland has 3-4.
Israel would never would exist without the US, receiving large amount of 
money and weapons!
You stick USHMM, to me for eveidence!


There is also what is called "convergence of evidence" where
> different pieces of evidence, including eye testimony, converge to
> paint
> a picture of what the Holocaust was like.

Ja,ja! Where is the forensic evidence moron, pictures of the crime being 
committed etc...

  This includes interviews
> with
> Unterscharfueher Franz Suchomel, Commandant Hoss of Auschwitz,
> Eichmann,

You mean all the forced testimonies under threat of tourture???
Like commandant Hoss said some 3.5 million died at Auschwitz, which was 
rounded up to 4 million, than changed to 1.1 million in 1990!
..or Hoss testified, they squeezed over 700 people into a 5 sq meter 
room for execution etc...
Get lost, stupid Zionist Jew!

> etc. as well as with victims and bystanders.
> 
>> What > creates the ideology of antisemitism and Holocaust denial and white
>>
>>> supremacism? Once one is indoctrinated either byself or others with
>>> this ideology it is virtually impossible to sway them from their
>>> antisemitism (hatred of an entire Jewish ethnic group).
>> Don't you think, Zionist Jews earned this hatred, even before WW2?
>> JS
> 
> 
> No JS. What have you "learned" that earned pre-WWII Jews such hatred?

I guess you never heard of pre-ww2 massacres of the Jews in Europe, like 
in Spain, France, England etc...???
Jews love their money and want to control. Once they control a banking 
system, control a country. Read about the central banking system.
You are so ignorant or act just like one!


> Remember
> hatred against Jews in Christian Europe went back 2000 years. Even
> today Europe
> is more antisemitic than the U.S. Theodore Herzl seeing the danger of
> European
> Jewry in Europe wanted to secure their own homeland for them. I think
> there is
> nothing wrong with this idea given the centuries of antisemitism,
> ghettoes,
> pogroms and exile.

Stop trying to control and the hatred will stop.
That's all!
JS

  If you want to discuss why the Jews were hated for
> so long
> we can start a separate subject on that.
> 
> 
> 
>> Why Holocaust
>>
>>
>>
>>> denial. Probably Harold Covington stated it succinctly when he said,
>>> "The reason Holocaust denial exists is to make national socialism a
>>> politically acceptable alternative again." Again, another form of
>>> propaganda. But it doesn't stand the scruntiny of evidence on here;
>>> whether it is baby Ben Cramer whining like an angry child or David
>>> Michael running away from the crucial evidence of the Holocaust. Then
>>> there are others like the almost mindless Topaz/Vangel who do nothing
>>> but repost Jew hating/Holocaust denial articles. Has anybody come
>>> across a Holocaust "revisionist" who isn't a denier and isn't filled
>>> with a hate filled ideology.  Among anti-deniers does anybody see any
>>> equivalent hatred of Jews or any ethnic group on alt.revisionism? I
>>> say the answer is no.
>>> Michael Ragland- Hide quoted text -
>> - Show quoted text -
> 
> 


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Joe Bruno wrote:
> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
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>> Michael wrote:
>>> It has been evident for a long time now that ideology predominates as
>>> far as the Holocaust denier is concerned. It overrides evidence.
>> Evidence? What evidence? Problem with the Holohoax stories is the lack of 
>> evidence!
>> They're just stories!
> 
> 
> Not at all.
> 
> http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/nuremberg/hoesstest.html
> 
>>
> 
> 

 >>DR. KAUFFMANN: Is it furthermore true that Eichmann stated to you 
that in Auschwitz a total sum of more than 2 million Jews had been 
destroyed? <<

You are an idiot Bluto and even post this crap here for evidence.
Haha!
JS


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Joe Bruno wrote:
> "Binyamin Cramer"  wrote in message 
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>> "Michael"  wrote in message 
>> news:1182554395.644740.121940@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>> It has been evident for a long time now that ideology predominates as
>>> far as the Holocaust denier is concerned. It overrides evidence.
>> There is no credible, scientifically verifiable evidence to support your 
>> stupid, mythical Holocaust(tm), laddie.
> 
> 
> 
> If you want physical evidence, you'll have to go to Europe where the 
> killings took
> place. Otherwise, we have lots of testimony like this:
> 
> http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/nuremberg/hoesstest.html
> 
>>
> 
> 

I'm from Europe, Yankee Jew!
Tell me what possible evidence the Soviet communist or the German puppet 
regime fabricated, that is believable about the Holohax?
JS




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Michael wrote:
> On Jun 22, 5:44 pm, "Binyamin Cramer" 
> wrote:
>> Gotta keep the marketing progressing.
>>
>> "Michael"  wrote in message
>>
>> news:1182555710.598198.321450@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> http://www.holocaust-education.de/- Hide quoted text -
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> 
> 
> It is called "learning". I could find a URL to any historical subject
> and would you call it "market processing"?
> 
> Michael Ragland
> 

It is called making money $$$$ even after 60 years, over the losers of  WW2.
You want to educate your self, than you can start here:
The Holocaust Industry: Norman G. Finkelstein
JS




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Michael wrote:
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>>
>>
>>> On Jun 22, 5:44 pm, "Binyamin Cramer" 
>>> wrote:
>>>> Gotta keep the marketing progressing.
>>>> "Michael"  wrote in message
>>>> news:1182555710.598198.321450@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> http://www.holocaust-education.de/-Hide quoted text -
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>> It is called "learning". I could find a URL to any historical subject
>>> and would you call it "market processing"?
>> The Holocaust(tm) is a thriving industry, laddie, and the yids do a
>> remakably good job of marketing it.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
> 
> 
> Yes, they do and for a good reason. They don't want "another"
> Holocaust to
> happen.

You mean, like Rwanda, caused by the French?
JS


  That may seem ridiculous but judging by the U.S. presidency
> almost
> for eight years anything might happen. The Far Right has not
> disappeared; in
> some ways it has even accelerated. There is an old saying which trumps
> "Never Again" and that is "Past is Prologue". There have been
> genocides
> since WWII and there is a very good liklihood there will be at least a
> few
> others in this century. Will it be against Jews? Possibly could be in
> the
> U.S. In Israel less likely since they have nukes. Could be the U.S.
> will
> someday end its "extra-special" relationship with Israel siding with
> the
> Arabs. All this could happen if the Far Right ever gained executive
> power.
> By Holocaust education they seek to teach the historical facts and
> attempt
> to get the youngster or student to sympathize with the victim.
> 


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Michael wrote:
> On Jun 22, 5:22 pm, Protagonist  wrote:
>> Michael wrote:
>>
>>> Storm water run-off [see also #20 & 24] -Storm drains capture
>>> rainwater flowing across streets, parking lots, and driveways. As it
>>> flows, the water picks up trash, dirt, oil, animal waste, fertilizer,
>>> and other things left behind by motor vehicles, people, and animals.
>>> This polluted water, known as runoff, goes directly into our streams,
>>> lakes, and rivers. Runoff pollution affects fish and other wildlife
>>> and can also contaminate drinking water supplies. Keep your home's
>>> driveway, sidewalks, and gutters clean and sweep up any debris.
>> I pay people to do that, Zionist kiddo!
>> JS
> 
> 
> Well I'm pleased but you fail to see the analogy. Much of Germany has
> always been
> clean; immaculate almost with flowers everywhere. So my deceased
> father told me
> back when he was in Germany in the 80's. Probably was similar way back
> in Hitler's
> time. But the mind itself can become very polluted (an enzyme) and
> collectively
> Germany was responsible for its systematic extermination of European
> Jewry. I'm
> a Zionist in spirit. I'm not "Jewish". I'm sure you do pay people to
> clean up
> your place but who will clean up your mind? I don't think any amount
> of money
> could do that.
> 
> Michael Ragland
> 

Your mind needs to be cleaned up, not mine!
Looks like, pretty massed up Zionist kiddo!
... and get a job: Work makes you FREE!
JS




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Michael wrote:
> On Jun 22, 7:52 pm, "Binyamin Cramer" 
> wrote:
>> "Michael"  wrote in message
>>
>> news:1182560753.992090.193100@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 22, 5:22 pm, Protagonist  wrote:
>>>> Michael wrote:
>>>>> Storm water run-off [see also #20 & 24] -Storm drains capture
>>>>> rainwater flowing across streets, parking lots, and driveways. As it
>>>>> flows, the water picks up trash, dirt, oil, animal waste, fertilizer,
>>>>> and other things left behind by motor vehicles, people, and animals.
>>>>> This polluted water, known as runoff, goes directly into our streams,
>>>>> lakes, and rivers. Runoff pollution affects fish and other wildlife
>>>>> and can also contaminate drinking water supplies. Keep your home's
>>>>> driveway, sidewalks, and gutters clean and sweep up any debris.
>>>> I pay people to do that, Zionist kiddo!
>>>> JS
>>> Well I'm pleased but you fail to see the analogy. Much of Germany has
>>> always been
>>> clean; immaculate almost with flowers everywhere. So my deceased
>>> father told me
>>> back when he was in Germany in the 80's. Probably was similar way back
>>> in Hitler's
>>> time. But the mind itself can become very polluted (an enzyme) and
>>> collectively
>>> Germany was responsible for its systematic extermination of European
>>> Jewry.
>> Nice story, laddie, but not a scrap of evidence in existence to support your
>> specious claim, is there.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
> 
> 
> Sure there is. I don't spend all my time on here trying to literally
> prove the
> Holocaust; it is an establihed historical fact. 

It's not! It's a one sided story, supported by Jewnited States to extort 
money!

You want a scrap of
> evidence.
> What about the Wansee Conference in Berlin. 
What about that?
JS

You are familiar with
> that? Tell us
> why it is a story.
> 
> Michael Ragland
> 


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TurkeyBoy wrote:
> On Jun 23, 2:22 am, Protagonist  wrote:
>> Michael wrote:
>>
>>> Storm water run-off [see also #20 & 24] -Storm drains capture
>>> rainwater flowing across streets, parking lots, and driveways. As it
>>> flows, the water picks up trash, dirt, oil, animal waste, fertilizer,
>>> and other things left behind by motor vehicles, people, and animals.
>>> This polluted water, known as runoff, goes directly into our streams,
>>> lakes, and rivers. Runoff pollution affects fish and other wildlife
>>> and can also contaminate drinking water supplies. Keep your home's
>>> driveway, sidewalks, and gutters clean and sweep up any debris.
>> I pay people to do that, Zionist kiddo!
>> JS
> 
> He may be a Zionist kiddo but what he said above makes perfect sense.
> We cannot continue to abuse this planet and its animals without paying
> a heavy price for it. Some of the diseases we are discovering are the
> result of pollution and factory farming.

Here we go, green party candidate Turkey boy!
Tell Israel, stop dumping shit in the M-East!
JS


> 
> We should welcome a topic that all the Nazis, Zionazis and TurkeBoy
> can agree on!
> 
> Have a nice vegetarian day!
> 


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Michael wrote:
> On Jun 22, 7:51 pm, "Binyamin Cramer" 
> wrote:
>> "Michael"  wrote in message
>>
>> news:1182562037.590637.8960@c77g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>> On Jun 22, 5:48 pm, "Binyamin Cramer" 
>>> wrote:
>>>> Thank you for that. I needed a good laugh.
>>> Ragland:
>>> What was funny?
>> If I need to explain it, you're clearly not terribly intelligent, Michael
>> m'dear.
> 
> 
> Apparently you think it is funny because you think it is false. What
> about it is
> false. What particularly did you find funny.

You can start her, if you want read real stuff:
Did Six Million Really Die?
http://www.ihr.org/books/harwood/dsmrd01.html


> Michael Ragland
> 
> P.S. I'd rather engage you in substantive debate rather than tits for
> tats. But I'm hoping too much.
> You refuse to personally discuss the evidence and instead just whining
> the "yehoodies" made it up.
> Pathetic.
> 


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9:01PM, McVay's script program back to earn Holohoax money!
JS


Ken McVay wrote:
> [Follow-ups set]
> June 23
> 
> 1933
> 
> Hermann Goering issues a police directive (Ministerial-Blatt
> fuer die Preussische innere Verwaltung, 1933, p. 731) to
> suppress all activities of the Social Democratic Party,
> including meetings and press, and ordered confiscation of
> all its property. (NCA II, 421)
> 
> 1939
> 
> A confidential letter from Martin Bormann to The Minister of
> Education reported the Party's decision to order the
> suppression of numerous Divinity Schools (123-PS). (NCA II, 900)
> 
> 1941
> 
> Gestapo head Mueller issues directives to the Gestapo office in the German
> border city of Tilsit to set up Einsatkommando Tilsit (mobile killing
> group) to remove Jews from the nearly Lithuanian border area. (Breitman,
> 43)
> 
> 1944
> 
> An International Red Cross commission, consisting of two
> Danish officials and one Swiss representative, inspect the
> Theresienstadt (Terezin) ghetto; the visit lasts only six
> hours. The prisoners were instructed on how to behave
> during this inspection and are compelled to give positive
> reports about ghetto conditions. (USHMM 1994, 46-7)
> 
> A resolution by the Committee on Foreign Affairs of the
> U.S. House of Representatives supports the activities of
> the War Refugee Board and promises retribution against
> those responsible for atrocities in all occupied territory,
> particularly in Hungary. (USHMM 1994, 47)
> 
> Between June 23 and July 14, Seven thousand one hundred
> ninety-six residents of the Lodz ghetto are deported to
> Chelmno, where they are killed. (USHMM 1994, 47)
> 
>                               
> 
>                          Work Cited
> 
> Breitman, Richard. Official Secrets. New York: Hill & Wang, 1998                              
> NCA II. Office of the United States Chief of Counsel for
>    Prosecution of Axis Criminality. Nazi Conspiracy and
>    Aggression, Volume II. Washington: United States Government
>    Printing Office, 1946
> 
> USHMM (United States Holocaust Memorial Museum). Fifty
>    Years Ago: Darkness Before Dawn: Days of Remembrance, April
>    3-10, 1994. Washington, D.C.: 1994


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Binyamin Cramer wrote:
> 
> "Michael"  wrote in message 
> news:1182562037.590637.8960@c77g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jun 22, 5:48 pm, "Binyamin Cramer" 
>> wrote:
>>> Thank you for that. I needed a good laugh.
>>
>> Ragland:
>> What was funny?
> 
> If I need to explain it, you're clearly not terribly intelligent, 
> Michael m'dear.
> 
> 
Like all the Jewish hair, Nazis used to make socks for U-boaters!
(o:
JS


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Michael wrote:
> On Jun 22, 9:43 pm, Protagonist  wrote:
>> Binyamin Cramer wrote:
>>
>>> "Michael"  wrote in message
>>> news:1182562037.590637.8960@c77g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>>> On Jun 22, 5:48 pm, "Binyamin Cramer" 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Thank you for that. I needed a good laugh.
>>>> Ragland:
>>>> What was funny?
>>> If I need to explain it, you're clearly not terribly intelligent,
>>> Michael m'dear.
>> Like all the Jewish hair, Nazis used to make socks for U-boaters!
>> (o:
>> JS
> 
> 
> 
> The bails of Jewish hair were used for wigs and mattress and pillow
> stuffing. What other uses
> I don't know.
> 
> Michael Ragland
> 

Yes! Well, human hair, not only Jewish, has all kinds of uses, even 
today, modern times!
Live and learn!
JS



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Michael wrote:
> On Jun 22, 9:29 pm, Protagonist  wrote:
>> Michael wrote:
>>> On Jun 22, 5:22 pm, Protagonist  wrote:
>>>> Michael wrote:
>>>>> Storm water run-off [see also #20 & 24] -Storm drains capture
>>>>> rainwater flowing across streets, parking lots, and driveways. As it
>>>>> flows, the water picks up trash, dirt, oil, animal waste, fertilizer,
>>>>> and other things left behind by motor vehicles, people, and animals.
>>>>> This polluted water, known as runoff, goes directly into our streams,
>>>>> lakes, and rivers. Runoff pollution affects fish and other wildlife
>>>>> and can also contaminate drinking water supplies. Keep your home's
>>>>> driveway, sidewalks, and gutters clean and sweep up any debris.
>>>> I pay people to do that, Zionist kiddo!
>>>> JS
>>> Well I'm pleased but you fail to see the analogy. Much of Germany has
>>> always been
>>> clean; immaculate almost with flowers everywhere. So my deceased
>>> father told me
>>> back when he was in Germany in the 80's. Probably was similar way back
>>> in Hitler's
>>> time. But the mind itself can become very polluted (an enzyme) and
>>> collectively
>>> Germany was responsible for its systematic extermination of European
>>> Jewry. I'm
>>> a Zionist in spirit. I'm not "Jewish". I'm sure you do pay people to
>>> clean up
>>> your place but who will clean up your mind? I don't think any amount
>>> of money
>>> could do that.
>>> Michael Ragland
>> Your mind needs to be cleaned up, not mine!
>> Looks like, pretty massed up Zionist kiddo!
>> ... and get a job: Work makes you FREE!
>> JS- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
> 
> Didn't Dachau have that on its entrance. It largely didn't work.
> 
> Michael Ragland
> 

Work creates things, kiddo.
Creating money out of nothing, is the Jewish way!
That's why the debt clock is ticking in NY Times square!
http://english.pravda.ru/world/americas/30-03-2006/78085-nationaldebt-0
JS


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TurkeyBoy wrote:
> On Jun 23, 6:35 am, Protagonist  wrote:
>> TurkeyBoy wrote:
>>> On Jun 23, 2:22 am, Protagonist  wrote:
>>>> Michael wrote:
>>>>> Storm water run-off [see also #20 & 24] -Storm drains capture
>>>>> rainwater flowing across streets, parking lots, and driveways. As it
>>>>> flows, the water picks up trash, dirt, oil, animal waste, fertilizer,
>>>>> and other things left behind by motor vehicles, people, and animals.
>>>>> This polluted water, known as runoff, goes directly into our streams,
>>>>> lakes, and rivers. Runoff pollution affects fish and other wildlife
>>>>> and can also contaminate drinking water supplies. Keep your home's
>>>>> driveway, sidewalks, and gutters clean and sweep up any debris.
>>>> I pay people to do that, Zionist kiddo!
>>>> JS
>>> He may be a Zionist kiddo but what he said above makes perfect sense.
>>> We cannot continue to abuse this planet and its animals without paying
>>> a heavy price for it. Some of the diseases we are discovering are the
>>> result of pollution and factory farming.
>> Here we go, green party candidate Turkey boy!
>> Tell Israel, stop dumping shit in the M-East!
>> JS
> 
> There are some things that transcend politics, race, nationality, who
> is good, and who is bad.
> 
> How would you spend your last day of your life if you found out that
> the sun would explode tomorrow?

Earth would be riped apart some 5 billion years from now, way before the 
Sun explodes.
It's inevitable, weather you like or not!
JS


> 
> It pleases TurkeyBoy to hit on a topic that has no downers, only
> uppers for all the Nazis, Zionazis and for TurkeyBoy.
> 
> Have a nice vegetarian day!
> 
> 
>>> We should welcome a topic that all the Nazis, Zionazis and TurkeBoy
>>> can agree on!
>>> Have a nice vegetarian day!
> 


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Michael wrote:
> On Jun 22, 10:37 pm, KeeponChoog...@webtv.net (Curly C) wrote:
>> """"....crucial evidence of the Holocaust''''''''''
>>
>> If you call kicking a german in the nuts and making him sign a
>> confession in a language he doesn't speak crucial, then you are
>> crucially insane.
>>
>> The only crucial evidence is that Jews contacted diseases in the camps
>> and many died. The rest of the holohoaxer garbage is heresay, lies,
>> propaganda, and zionist wishful thinking.
> 
> Franz Suchomel in Shoa wasn't kicked in the nuts.
> 
> Michael Ragland
> 

You mean, this lier?
http://www.onethirdoftheholocaust.com/mov_pages/28_mov.html
JS


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Eugene Holman wrote:
> In article , Protagonist
>  wrote:
> 
>> Michael wrote:
>>> On Jun 22, 5:44 pm, "Binyamin Cramer" 
>>> wrote:
>>>> Gotta keep the marketing progressing.
>>>>
>>>> "Michael"  wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> news:1182555710.598198.321450@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> http://www.holocaust-education.de/- Hide quoted text -
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>
>>> It is called "learning". I could find a URL to any historical subject
>>> and would you call it "market processing"?
>>>
>>> Michael Ragland
>>>
>> It is called making money $$$$ even after 60 years, over the losers of  WW2.
>> You want to educate your self, than you can start here:
>> The Holocaust Industry: Norman G. Finkelstein
> 
> Prof. Finkelstein, the son of Holocaust survivors, does not, kedves
> barátam, deny that the Holocaust happened.
> 
> Regards,
> Eugene Holman

Balfaszkam, Finkelstein book talks about, how the Holocau$t industry is 
making money!
JS


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ZULU wrote:
> I asked it to Eugene here and I missed the answer.
> 
> What was the distribution of 6 millions jews died as alleged at 
> Nuremberg trial and after WW II?
> 
> TIA to give detailed information and related sources.
> 
> To remember other long time unanswered questions:
> 
> 1- Coke and wood consumption at Auschwitz and Dachau camps from 1941 to 
> 1945.
> 2- Zyclon B consumption at Auschwitz and Dachau camps from 1941 to 1945.
> 3- Where were the morgues at Auschwitz?
> 4- What are the specific installations which differentiate
> concentration camps from extermination camps?
> 
> PLease be accurate on technical details and sources.

Watch Irvings videos in Auschwitz, he talks about it.
He said- seems the equipment is here, ovens etc... in the camps, but 
numbers the Jews claim killed here just does not match to the capacity 
it can handle.
JS



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Zsidok meg nem tudjak, vipera(olom bot)jobban mukodik csont toresre!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brfNxtFdK9o

JS


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Kurt Knoll wrote:
> There you go Joe. Hoes Son did visit the old man at the Spandau prison but 
> was never allowed to disclose what hi dad really said.
> 
> Kurt Knoll.

You mean Rudolf Hess?
 >>On 17 August 1987, Hess died under Four Power imprisonment at Spandau 
Prison in West Berlin. At 93,<<
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolf_Hess
JS

> 
> "Joe"  wrote in message 
> news:1182618945.599152.64560@o11g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jun 23, 7:51 am, ZULU  wrote:
>>> Curly C wrote:
>>>> Even the yids don't believe Hoess's testimony is true anymore. I think
>>>> Holman, McFlea, Jacobson, and McVay are the only 4 people left who 
>>>> still
>>>> believe it.
>>>> Go to the Auschwitz Museum and look at the plaques, then tell me if the
>>>> yids still believe Hoess was telling the truth.
>>> Hoess confession is a farce.
>>
>> It wasn't a confession, since Hoess was not on trial at Nuremberg.
>> If you want to debunk it, you'll have to do better than the IHR and
>> Faurisson.
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 


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Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:
> In article ,
> Leading Revisionist Moron Kurt Knoll, the Village Idiot
> of Kitimat,   wrote:
>> There you go Joe. Hoes Son did visit the old man at the Spandau prison but 
>> was never allowed to disclose what hi dad really said.
> 
> Hoess was never at Spandau, moron.
> 
> Your tribe is SO dumb.
> 
> (Just when you think Revisionist Scholars can't possibly get any
> dumber....)
> 
McVay can't miss the opportunity to jump on some one.
Typical Jewish latitude!
JS


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I guess, he knew too much.
JS

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v13/v13n1p20_Weber.html

 From 1947 until his death, Hess was held in West Berlin's Spandau 
prison, which was run by the four Allied powers. Regulations stipulated 
that "imprisonment will be in the form of solitary confinement" and 
forbad prison officials to ever call Hess by name. He was addressed only 
as "prisoner No. 7."

Conditions were so bad that French chaplain Pastor Casalis protested to 
the prison Directorate in 1950: "It can safely be said that Spandau has 
become a place of mental torture to an extent that does not permit the 
Christian conscience to remain silent ..." [16]

For 20 years, Hess at least had the limited company of a few other 
Nuremberg defendants, but from October 1966 until his death 21 years 
later, he was the only inmate in the fortress-like prison originally 
built for 600. He was, in the words of Spandau's American Director, Lt. 
Col. Eugene Bird, "the loneliest man in the world."

Keeping this one man in Spandau cost the West German government about 
850,000 marks a year. In addition, each of the four Allied powers had to 
provide an officer and 37 soldiers during their respective shifts, as 
well as a director and team of warders throughout the entire year. The 
permanent maintenance staff of 22 included cooks, waitresses and cleaners.

In the final years of his life, Hess was a weak and frail old man, blind 
in one eye, who walked stooped forward with a cane. He lived in 
virtually total isolation according to a strictly regulated daily 
routine. During his rare meetings with his wife and son, he was not 
allowed to embrace or even touch them. [17]

Long before his death, Hess' imprisonment had become a grotesque and 
absurd spectacle.

Even Winston Churchill expressed regret over his treatment. In 1950 he 
wrote: [18]

     Reflecting upon the whole of the story, I am glad not to be 
responsible for the way in which Hess has been and is being treated. 
Whatever may be the moral guilt of a German who stood near to Hitler, 
Hess had, in my view, atoned for this by his completely devoted and 
frantic deed of lunatic benevolence. He came to us of his own free will, 
and, though without authority, had something of the quality of an envoy. 
He was a medical and not a criminal case, and should be so regarded.

In a 1977 interview, Sir Hartley Shawcross, who was Britain's chief 
prosecutor at Nuremberg, called the continued imprisonment of Hess a 
"scandal." [19]

The injustice against Hess was not something that happened once and was 
quickly over. It was, rather, a wrong that went on, day after day, for 
46 years. Rudolf Hess was a prisoner of peace and a victim of a 
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Doc Tony wrote:
> Protagonist wrote:
> 
>> I guess, he knew too much.
>> JS
>>
>> http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v13/v13n1p20_Weber.html
>>
>>  From 1947 until his death, Hess was held in West Berlin's Spandau 
>> prison, which was run by the four Allied powers. Regulations 
>> stipulated that "imprisonment will be in the form of solitary 
>> confinement" and forbad prison officials to ever call Hess by name. He 
>> was addressed only as "prisoner No. 7."
>>
>> Conditions were so bad that French chaplain Pastor Casalis protested 
>> to the prison Directorate in 1950: "It can safely be said that Spandau 
>> has become a place of mental torture to an extent that does not permit 
>> the Christian conscience to remain silent ..." [16]
>>
>> For 20 years, Hess at least had the limited company of a few other 
>> Nuremberg defendants, but from October 1966 until his death 21 years 
>> later, he was the only inmate in the fortress-like prison originally 
>> built for 600. He was, in the words of Spandau's American Director, 
>> Lt. Col. Eugene Bird, "the loneliest man in the world."
>>
>> Keeping this one man in Spandau cost the West German government about 
>> 850,000 marks a year. In addition, each of the four Allied powers had 
>> to provide an officer and 37 soldiers during their respective shifts, 
>> as well as a director and team of warders throughout the entire year. 
>> The permanent maintenance staff of 22 included cooks, waitresses and 
>> cleaners.
>>
>> In the final years of his life, Hess was a weak and frail old man, 
>> blind in one eye, who walked stooped forward with a cane. He lived in 
>> virtually total isolation according to a strictly regulated daily 
>> routine. During his rare meetings with his wife and son, he was not 
>> allowed to embrace or even touch them. [17]
>>
>> Long before his death, Hess' imprisonment had become a grotesque and 
>> absurd spectacle.
>>
>> Even Winston Churchill expressed regret over his treatment. In 1950 he 
>> wrote: [18]
>>
>>     Reflecting upon the whole of the story, I am glad not to be 
>> responsible for the way in which Hess has been and is being treated. 
>> Whatever may be the moral guilt of a German who stood near to Hitler, 
>> Hess had, in my view, atoned for this by his completely devoted and 
>> frantic deed of lunatic benevolence. He came to us of his own free 
>> will, and, though without authority, had something of the quality of 
>> an envoy. He was a medical and not a criminal case, and should be so 
>> regarded.
>>
>> In a 1977 interview, Sir Hartley Shawcross, who was Britain's chief 
>> prosecutor at Nuremberg, called the continued imprisonment of Hess a 
>> "scandal." [19]
>>
>> The injustice against Hess was not something that happened once and 
>> was quickly over. It was, rather, a wrong that went on, day after day, 
>> for 46 years. Rudolf Hess was a prisoner of peace and a victim of a 
>> vindictive age.
> 
> 
> I don't know why this chestnut is periodically dragged out as if to 
> suggest is was the Allies collectively who wanted Heß to remain behind 
> bars for the duration. From what I've read, the Americans, British and 
> French had no particular objections to his release BUT this required 
> 'not' a 'majority' vote but rather a 'unanimous' vote and the Russians 
> would simply not budge on the matter!

Maybe you can shed some more lite on, why the Russians objected Hess 
release?
JS

> 
> But then, hey, what else is new when post-war Europe is viewed and the 
> role of the Russians, yes? How long did they float the 'Hitler may be 
> still alive' thing although their vaults in Moscow had the evidence of a 
> definitive dead Hitler and that's just for starters! So too, after the 
> Heß famous flight to the UK, he was out of it and 'out of it' in more 
> ways than one to boot! Keeping a single prisoner in Spandau 'was' 
> absurd, IMO, but the 4 power agreement [and 4 power 'rotating' 
> administration and guard  of Spandau] was quite specific, a 'unanimous' 
> decision was required with regard to those given a 'Life' sentence 
> whereas, views or no views of the time, the others were in fact released 
> when their sentences were up, literally to the hour of serving same.
> 
> Along the same lines ... what about Streicher at Nuremberg? Depends on 
> one's point of view. I tend to agree with former Nuremberg prosecutor 
> and author Telford Taylor on the matter! Others believe the rope in the 
> Streicher case was 'well deserved' and 'well earned' a do still others, 
> if they had their way, would put 'propagandist extraordinary' Leni 
> Riefenstahl in the same boat and were shocked that she wasn't in the 
> dock herself! Funny tho', how Werner von Braun as duly pictured in his 
> honorary SS rank and uniform  and what with the V1 and V2 rocket thing 
> or KZ workers was whisked away sans murmur, yes? But then, von Braun had 
> something to offer ... just like [NSDAP Major General] Reinhard Gehlen 
> did I suppose! Perspective. And amazing what can often 'color' same.
> 
> Doc Tony
> ;-)


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Doc Tony wrote:
> Protagonist wrote:
> 
>> Doc Tony wrote:
>>
>>> Protagonist wrote:
>>>
>>>> I guess, he knew too much.
>>>> JS
>>>>
>>>> http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v13/v13n1p20_Weber.html
>>>>
>>>>  From 1947 until his death, Hess was held in West Berlin's Spandau 
>>>> prison, which was run by the four Allied powers. Regulations 
>>>> stipulated that "imprisonment will be in the form of solitary 
>>>> confinement" and forbad prison officials to ever call Hess by name. 
>>>> He was addressed only as "prisoner No. 7."
>>>>
>>>> Conditions were so bad that French chaplain Pastor Casalis protested 
>>>> to the prison Directorate in 1950: "It can safely be said that 
>>>> Spandau has become a place of mental torture to an extent that does 
>>>> not permit the Christian conscience to remain silent ..." [16]
>>>>
>>>> For 20 years, Hess at least had the limited company of a few other 
>>>> Nuremberg defendants, but from October 1966 until his death 21 years 
>>>> later, he was the only inmate in the fortress-like prison originally 
>>>> built for 600. He was, in the words of Spandau's American Director, 
>>>> Lt. Col. Eugene Bird, "the loneliest man in the world."
>>>>
>>>> Keeping this one man in Spandau cost the West German government 
>>>> about 850,000 marks a year. In addition, each of the four Allied 
>>>> powers had to provide an officer and 37 soldiers during their 
>>>> respective shifts, as well as a director and team of warders 
>>>> throughout the entire year. The permanent maintenance staff of 22 
>>>> included cooks, waitresses and cleaners.
>>>>
>>>> In the final years of his life, Hess was a weak and frail old man, 
>>>> blind in one eye, who walked stooped forward with a cane. He lived 
>>>> in virtually total isolation according to a strictly regulated daily 
>>>> routine. During his rare meetings with his wife and son, he was not 
>>>> allowed to embrace or even touch them. [17]
>>>>
>>>> Long before his death, Hess' imprisonment had become a grotesque and 
>>>> absurd spectacle.
>>>>
>>>> Even Winston Churchill expressed regret over his treatment. In 1950 
>>>> he wrote: [18]
>>>>
>>>>     Reflecting upon the whole of the story, I am glad not to be 
>>>> responsible for the way in which Hess has been and is being treated. 
>>>> Whatever may be the moral guilt of a German who stood near to 
>>>> Hitler, Hess had, in my view, atoned for this by his completely 
>>>> devoted and frantic deed of lunatic benevolence. He came to us of 
>>>> his own free will, and, though without authority, had something of 
>>>> the quality of an envoy. He was a medical and not a criminal case, 
>>>> and should be so regarded.
>>>>
>>>> In a 1977 interview, Sir Hartley Shawcross, who was Britain's chief 
>>>> prosecutor at Nuremberg, called the continued imprisonment of Hess a 
>>>> "scandal." [19]
>>>>
>>>> The injustice against Hess was not something that happened once and 
>>>> was quickly over. It was, rather, a wrong that went on, day after 
>>>> day, for 46 years. Rudolf Hess was a prisoner of peace and a victim 
>>>> of a vindictive age.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know why this chestnut is periodically dragged out as if to 
>>> suggest is was the Allies collectively who wanted Heß to remain 
>>> behind bars for the duration. From what I've read, the Americans, 
>>> British and French had no particular objections to his release BUT 
>>> this required 'not' a 'majority' vote but rather a 'unanimous' vote 
>>> and the Russians would simply not budge on the matter!
>>
>>
>> Maybe you can shed some more lite on, why the Russians objected Hess 
>> release?
>> JS
>>
> 
> 
>  From what I've read, they simply felt that releasing Heß, the 'Deputy 
> Führer, would cause Heß himself and his home town to become a 'shrine' 
> or 'lure' if you will for those, shall we say, unhappy with the way 
> things turned out [Germany losing] but that didn't make sense because 
> 'others' of the flock had already been released and nothing happened! 
> Look at Albert Speer who went on to become a best selling author 
> although common sense once you gain freedom the 'last' thing you need is 
> to pestered by NSDAP wannbees or rhetoric. Not healthy for 'staying' out.
> 
> So too, Heß was in no position to do anything and the prevailing view, 
> 'other' than the Russians, was to let the guy go home and die in peace. 
> But again, the thing had to be a 'unanimous' vote of the 4 powers and 
> the Russians continually objected! What could be done without causing an 
> international incident when already the frictions with the Russians was 
> a veritable tinderbox. Hey, recall Berlin and 1948, 3 years after the 
> war! Not to mention almost ==50== years of Russian vs NATO machinations. 
> The same Russians, BTW, talking about 'blame' for the Katyn Forest 
> murders when they themselves were the perpetrators and which was finally 
> 'admitted' down the line!
> 
> Read LTC Bird's book. Interesting.
> 
> Doc Tony

Don't make sense! Don't see any Russian interest not to release Hess!
Than why was Hess killed as an old man, before finally had to be released?
British had more interest in his death, I think, because he was dealing 
with them!
JS


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>>> But then, hey, what else is new when post-war Europe is viewed and 
>>> the role of the Russians, yes? How long did they float the 'Hitler 
>>> may be still alive' thing although their vaults in Moscow had the 
>>> evidence of a definitive dead Hitler and that's just for starters! So 
>>> too, after the Heß famous flight to the UK, he was out of it and 'out 
>>> of it' in more ways than one to boot! Keeping a single prisoner in 
>>> Spandau 'was' absurd, IMO, but the 4 power agreement [and 4 power 
>>> 'rotating' administration and guard  of Spandau] was quite specific, 
>>> a 'unanimous' decision was required with regard to those given a 
>>> 'Life' sentence whereas, views or no views of the time, the others 
>>> were in fact released when their sentences were up, literally to the 
>>> hour of serving same.
>>>
>>> Along the same lines ... what about Streicher at Nuremberg? Depends 
>>> on one's point of view. I tend to agree with former Nuremberg 
>>> prosecutor and author Telford Taylor on the matter! Others believe 
>>> the rope in the Streicher case was 'well deserved' and 'well earned' 
>>> a do still others, if they had their way, would put 'propagandist 
>>> extraordinary' Leni Riefenstahl in the same boat and were shocked 
>>> that she wasn't in the dock herself! Funny tho', how Werner von Braun 
>>> as duly pictured in his honorary SS rank and uniform  and what with 
>>> the V1 and V2 rocket thing or KZ workers was whisked away sans 
>>> murmur, yes? But then, von Braun had something to offer ... just like 
>>> [NSDAP Major General] Reinhard Gehlen did I suppose! Perspective. And 
>>> amazing what can often 'color' same.
>>>
>>> Doc Tony
>>> ;-)


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Richard Warren wrote:
> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message 
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>> Get real Michael it is the allied who brag about democratize to begin 
>> with. The Question her is why did he fly to great Britain. Was it to make 
>> a deal the question now is why were we never allowed to get all the facts. 
>> What is the secret behind it all. A British friend of mine told me they 
>> did have to keep him silent because there was too much at stake here.
>>
>> Kurt Knoll.
> 
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> 
> LMFAO!!!  Another unnamed friend, British this time.  The VI of K has an 
> endless supply of imaginary friends.

You suggesting, Hess flew to England, risking his life to have lunch 
with Churchill?
JS

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>>> On Jun 24, 1:45 pm, Protagonist  wrote:
>>>> I guess, he knew too much.
>>>> JS
>>>>
>>>> http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v13/v13n1p20_Weber.html
>>>>
>>>>  From 1947 until his death, Hess was held in West Berlin's Spandau
>>>> prison, which was run by the four Allied powers. Regulations stipulated
>>>> that "imprisonment will be in the form of solitary confinement" and
>>>> forbad prison officials to ever call Hess by name. He was addressed only
>>>> as "prisoner No. 7."
>>>>
>>>> Conditions were so bad that French chaplain Pastor Casalis protested to
>>>> the prison Directorate in 1950: "It can safely be said that Spandau has
>>>> become a place of mental torture to an extent that does not permit the
>>>> Christian conscience to remain silent ..." [16]
>>>>
>>>> For 20 years, Hess at least had the limited company of a few other
>>>> Nuremberg defendants, but from October 1966 until his death 21 years
>>>> later, he was the only inmate in the fortress-like prison originally
>>>> built for 600. He was, in the words of Spandau's American Director, Lt.
>>>> Col. Eugene Bird, "the loneliest man in the world."
>>>>
>>>> Keeping this one man in Spandau cost the West German government about
>>>> 850,000 marks a year. In addition, each of the four Allied powers had to
>>>> provide an officer and 37 soldiers during their respective shifts, as
>>>> well as a director and team of warders throughout the entire year. The
>>>> permanent maintenance staff of 22 included cooks, waitresses and 
>>>> cleaners.
>>>>
>>>> In the final years of his life, Hess was a weak and frail old man, blind
>>>> in one eye, who walked stooped forward with a cane. He lived in
>>>> virtually total isolation according to a strictly regulated daily
>>>> routine. During his rare meetings with his wife and son, he was not
>>>> allowed to embrace or even touch them. [17]
>>>>
>>>> Long before his death, Hess' imprisonment had become a grotesque and
>>>> absurd spectacle.
>>>>
>>>> Even Winston Churchill expressed regret over his treatment. In 1950 he
>>>> wrote: [18]
>>>>
>>>>      Reflecting upon the whole of the story, I am glad not to be
>>>> responsible for the way in which Hess has been and is being treated.
>>>> Whatever may be the moral guilt of a German who stood near to Hitler,
>>>> Hess had, in my view, atoned for this by his completely devoted and
>>>> frantic deed of lunatic benevolence. He came to us of his own free will,
>>>> and, though without authority, had something of the quality of an envoy.
>>>> He was a medical and not a criminal case, and should be so regarded.
>>>>
>>>> In a 1977 interview, Sir Hartley Shawcross, who was Britain's chief
>>>> prosecutor at Nuremberg, called the continued imprisonment of Hess a
>>>> "scandal." [19]
>>>>
>>>> The injustice against Hess was not something that happened once and was
>>>> quickly over. It was, rather, a wrong that went on, day after day, for
>>>> 46 years. Rudolf Hess was a prisoner of peace and a victim of a
>>>> vindictive age.
>>>
>>> If he had returned to Nazi Germany he would have been shot.
>>> Hess was Deputy Fueher and he obviously made a grave miscalculation
>>> the British
>>> would listen to him. He was to some degree mentally off-balance. Hess
>>> got to
>>> watch television and he was not tortured while in Spandau. He ate
>>> three meals
>>> and had a cot. His lonliness was brought on himself. I'm glad the
>>> fucker
>>> rotted by himself for over twenty years.
>>>
>>> Michael Ragland
>>>
>>
> 
> 


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On April 15, 1946, Rudolf Hoess, the infamous Commandant of the 
Auschwitz death camp testified at the Nuremberg International Military 
Tribunal about the conditions that were found in the camps by the 
American liberators:

The following quote is from the trial transcript of the Nuremberg 
International Military Tribunal:

DR. KAUFFMANN: To what do you attribute the particularly bad and 
shameful conditions, which were ascertained by the entering Allied 
troops, and which to a certain extent were photographed and filmed?
HOESS: The catastrophic situation at the end of the war was due to the 
fact that, as a result of the destruction of the railway network and of 
the continuous bombing of the industrial plants, care for these 
masses--I am thinking of Auschwitz with its 140,000 internees--could no 
longer be assured. Improvised measures, truck columns, and everything 
else tried by the commanders to improve the situation were of little or 
no avail; it was no longer possible. The number of the sick became 
immense. There were next to no medical supplies; epidemics raged 
everywhere. Internees who were capable of work were used over and over 
again. By order of the Reichsführer, even half-sick people had to be 
used wherever possible in industry. As a result every bit of space in 
the concentration camps which could possibly be used for lodging was 
overcrowded with sick and dying prisoners.

When the American liberators arrived at Dachau on April 29, 1945, they 
found 30,000 inmates crowded into a camp that had been built for 5,000. 
Half of those 30,000 prisoners had been in the Dachau camp for two weeks 
or less. They had been brought from other camps that were evacuated in 
the last days of the war. When the Americans set up War Crimes Enclosure 
No. I, the capacity of the prison was set at 30,000 men and women.

http://www.scrapbookpages.com/DachauScrapbook/NaziPrison.html


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On April 15, 1946, Rudolf Hoess, the infamous Commandant of the 
Auschwitz death camp testified at the Nuremberg International Military 
Tribunal about the conditions that were found in the camps by the 
American liberators:

The following quote is from the trial transcript of the Nuremberg 
International Military Tribunal:

DR. KAUFFMANN: To what do you attribute the particularly bad and 
shameful conditions, which were ascertained by the entering Allied 
troops, and which to a certain extent were photographed and filmed?
HOESS: The catastrophic situation at the end of the war was due to the 
fact that, as a result of the destruction of the railway network and of 
the continuous bombing of the industrial plants, care for these 
masses--I am thinking of Auschwitz with its 140,000 internees--could no 
longer be assured. Improvised measures, truck columns, and everything 
else tried by the commanders to improve the situation were of little or 
no avail; it was no longer possible. The number of the sick became 
immense. There were next to no medical supplies; epidemics raged 
everywhere. Internees who were capable of work were used over and over 
again. By order of the Reichsführer, even half-sick people had to be 
used wherever possible in industry. As a result every bit of space in 
the concentration camps which could possibly be used for lodging was 
overcrowded with sick and dying prisoners.

When the American liberators arrived at Dachau on April 29, 1945, they 
found 30,000 inmates crowded into a camp that had been built for 5,000. 
Half of those 30,000 prisoners had been in the Dachau camp for two weeks 
or less. They had been brought from other camps that were evacuated in 
the last days of the war. When the Americans set up War Crimes Enclosure 
No. I, the capacity of the prison was set at 30,000 men and women.

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Joe wrote:
> On Jun 25, 9:48 pm, Protagonist  wrote:
>> On April 15, 1946, Rudolf Hoess, the infamous Commandant of the
>> Auschwitz death camp testified at the Nuremberg International Military
>> Tribunal about the conditions that were found in the camps by the
>> American liberators:
>>
>> The following quote is from the trial transcript of the Nuremberg
>> International Military Tribunal:
>>
>> DR. KAUFFMANN: To what do you attribute the particularly bad and
>> shameful conditions, which were ascertained by the entering Allied
>> troops, and which to a certain extent were photographed and filmed?
>> HOESS: The catastrophic situation at the end of the war was due to the
>> fact that, as a result of the destruction of the railway network and of
>> the continuous bombing of the industrial plants, care for these
>> masses--I am thinking of Auschwitz with its 140,000 internees--could no
>> longer be assured. Improvised measures, truck columns, and everything
>> else tried by the commanders to improve the situation were of little or
>> no avail; it was no longer possible. The number of the sick became
>> immense. There were next to no medical supplies; epidemics raged
>> everywhere. Internees who were capable of work were used over and over
>> again. By order of the Reichsführer, even half-sick people had to be
>> used wherever possible in industry. As a result every bit of space in
>> the concentration camps which could possibly be used for lodging was
>> overcrowded with sick and dying prisoners.
>>
>> When the American liberators arrived at Dachau on April 29, 1945, they
>> found 30,000 inmates crowded into a camp that had been built for 5,000.
>> Half of those 30,000 prisoners had been in the Dachau camp for two weeks
>> or less. They had been brought from other camps that were evacuated in
>> the last days of the war. When the Americans set up War Crimes Enclosure
>> No. I, the capacity of the prison was set at 30,000 men and women.
>>
>> http://www.scrapbookpages.com/DachauScrapbook/NaziPrison.html
> 
> 
> 
> The only way to stop the slaughter was to defeat Nazi Germany and, to
> do that, it was necessary to destroy their means of transport.
Ajaja Bluto!
Allies didn't defeat Germany to save the Jews! WW2 wasn't about the 
Jews, as your tribe wants the world to believe it.
Jews were only political pawns!
> 
> Let's back up and ask: What crime had the inmates committed to deserve
> imprisonment on the first place? 

First we would have to analyze, who falls under the word meaning :inmates!
Russian POW, Polish partizans, Jewish partizans, enemies of the state etc...
Where is the evidence of their guilt?
After 60 years, we have found out, it's stored in Germany, waiting for 
release.

> If they had been free, they could have worked and earned money to feed
> and care for themselves.

You mean the Russian POW's or the Jewish partizens?
JS

> 


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RJ11 wrote:
> In article ,
> Protagonist   wrote:
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>> DR. KAUFFMANN: To what do you attribute the particularly bad and 
>> shameful conditions, which were ascertained by the entering Allied 
>> troops, and which to a certain extent were photographed and filmed?
>> HOESS: The catastrophic situation at the end of the war 
> 
>    "the end of the war"?
> 
>    A document which is often cited by your "revisionist" cohorts
> states that during the second half of 1942,  the death rate in
> the "work camps" was 10% a month:
> 
>    http://www.mazal.org/archive/nmt/05/NMT05-T0381.htm
> 
>    And this is for inmates who were spared the initial
> "selection",  and not murdered upon arrival.
> 
> RJ.

Yes I know, also 4 million death was claimed for Auschwitz for 45 years!
One lie doesn't make the other true!
JS


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RJ11 wrote:
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>> RJ11 wrote:
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>>>    "the end of the war"?
>>>
>>>    A document which is often cited by your "revisionist" cohorts
>>> states that during the second half of 1942,  the death rate in
>>> the "work camps" was 10% a month:
>>>
>>>    http://www.mazal.org/archive/nmt/05/NMT05-T0381.htm
>>>
>>>    And this is for inmates who were spared the initial
>>> "selection",  and not murdered upon arrival.
> 
>> Yes I know, also 4 million death was claimed for Auschwitz
>> for 45 years!
> 
>    Not by the leading Holocaust historians in the West.  Reitlinger
> and Hilberg,  in their books published in the 1950's and 1960's,
> gave the same numbers which are accepted today.

Not by Jews, I guess!
> 
>    And what does your reply have to do with the document 
> I cited?  Nothing.
> 
> RJ.

A lot! Hard to believe any thing from Jewish/Zionist sources!
JS


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So, where is the 450,000 transported and killed?
Another Zionist lie?
JS


Sources: CSA No. 187603: Roll 285-1943-44: Frames 019-852- Roll 
286-1945: Frames 001-329.



Total number of Hungarian Jews sent to Auschwitz, May-October, 1944:  23,117

Note: Number of Hungarian Jews claimed sent to Auschwitz, May-October, 1944:

  Lucy Dawidowicz. The War Against the Jews, New York, 1975.: 450,000

  Raul Hilberg, The Destruction of the European Jews, New York, 1985. 
180,000


Total number of Hungarian Jews entering Auschwitz, May-October, 1944: 23,117

Total number of Hungarian Jews transferred from Auschwitz, May-October, 
1944: 21,527

Total number of Hungarian Jews remaining in Auschwitz after October, 
1944: 1,590
  Sources: CSA No. 187603: Roll 285-1943-44: Frames 019-852- Roll 
286-1945: Frames 001-329

Prisoner records of Auschwitz camp from May, 1940 through December 1944 
>from the Glücks complete Concentration Camp microfilm records now 
located in the Russian Central Archives[1]
(Note: The attached statistical tables concerning prisoners in Auschwitz 
camp from its inception to its closing are taken directly from Soviet 
archival material, now available on microfilm from the former Soviet 
Central Archives. Also, a good deal of corroborative material from the 
German Archives concerning the German State Railways has been located in 
the German State Archives (Bundesarchiv) and utilized. The railroad was 
responsible for the transportation of inmates to and from concentration 
camps in the figures from the Russian files is accurately reflected in 
the Reichsbahn documents.)

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Stupid Tom cruise. Here comes another "Swindlers list" movie, telling 
teenagers that WW2 was about Jews.
Reason Hitler was bombed because the Jews.
JS


BERLIN (Reuters) - Germany has barred the makers of a movie about a plot 
to kill Adolf Hitler from filming at German military sites because its 
star Tom Cruise is a Scientologist, the Defense Ministry said on Monday.

Cruise, also one of the film's producers, is a member of the Church of 
Scientology which the German government does not recognize as a church. 
Berlin says it masquerades as a religion to make money, a charge 
Scientology leaders reject.

The U.S. actor has been cast as Colonel Claus von Stauffenberg, leader 
of the unsuccessful attempt to assassinate the Nazi dictator in July 
1944 with a bomb hidden in a briefcase.

Defense Ministry spokesman Harald Kammerbauer said the film makers "will 
not be allowed to film at German military sites if Count Stauffenberg is 
played by Tom Cruise, who has publicly professed to being a member of 
the Scientology cult".

"In general, the Bundeswehr (German military) has a special interest in 
the serious and authentic portrayal of the events of July 20, 1944 and 
Stauffenberg's person," Kammerbauer said.

Cruise's publicists could not be reached for comment.

Stauffenberg had been deeply opposed to the Nazis' treatment of the Jews 
and planted a briefcase bomb under a table near Hitler in his "Wolf's 
Lair" headquarters on July 20, 1944. The bomb went off but only wounded 
the Fuehrer.

The film, slated for a 2008 release and to be directed by Bryan Singer 
and co-starring Kenneth Branagh, is called "Valkyrie" after Operation 
Valkyrie, the plot's codename.

The main site of interest would be the "Bendlerblock" memorial inside 
the Defense Ministry complex in Berlin. This is where Stauffenberg and 
his co-conspirators hatched the plot and where he and his closest 
comrades were executed when it failed.

Kammerbauer said the ministry had not yet received official filming 
requests from the producers of "Valkyrie".

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 >>Yet the von Stauffenberg offspring says that Cruise's roots in 
Scientology are "off-putting" and that he fears that the film "could 
turn into horrible kitsch." But he won't stop it; he just wants to 
complain and hope that Cruise leaves the project: "He should climb a 
mountain or go surfing in the Caribbean. I don't care, as long as he 
stays out of it." I really doubt he'll get his wish, as the film goes 
into production this summer with Cruise and co-stars<<<
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RJ11 wrote:
> In article , ZULU   wrote:
> 
>> Dachau Death Statistics
>>
>> The Dachau camp records show that there were 28,838 Jews brought
>> from Auschwitz to the Dachau main camp between June 18, 1944 and
>> March 9, 1945. 
> 
>    But over 430,000 Hungarian Jews were deported to Auschwitz.
> Where are the rest?
> 
> RJ.

Sure lier, RJ! Depends who you listen to!
JS


Sources: CSA No. 187603: Roll 285-1943-44: Frames 019-852- Roll 
286-1945: Frames 001-329.

 >>taken directly from Soviet archival material, now available on 
microfilm from the former Soviet Central Archives.<<

Total number of Hungarian Jews sent to Auschwitz, May-October, 1944:  23,117

Note: Number of Hungarian Jews claimed sent to Auschwitz, May-October, 1944:

  Lucy Dawidowicz. The War Against the Jews, New York, 1975.: 450,000

  Raul Hilberg, The Destruction of the European Jews, New York, 1985. 
180,000


Total number of Hungarian Jews entering Auschwitz, May-October, 1944: 23,117

Total number of Hungarian Jews transferred from Auschwitz, May-October, 
1944: 21,527

Total number of Hungarian Jews remaining in Auschwitz after October, 
1944: 1,590
  Sources: CSA No. 187603: Roll 285-1943-44: Frames 019-852- Roll 
286-1945: Frames 001-329

Prisoner records of Auschwitz camp from May, 1940 through December 1944 
>from the Glücks complete Concentration Camp microfilm records now 
located in the Russian Central Archives[1]
(Note: The attached statistical tables concerning prisoners in Auschwitz 
camp from its inception to its closing are taken directly from Soviet 
archival material, now available on microfilm from the former Soviet 
Central Archives. Also, a good deal of corroborative material from the 
German Archives concerning the German State Railways has been located in 
the German State Archives (Bundesarchiv) and utilized. The railroad was 
responsible for the transportation of inmates to and from concentration 
camps in the figures from the Russian files is accurately reflected in 
the Reichsbahn documents.)

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Ken McVay wrote:
> [Follow-ups set]
> 
> June 28
> 
> 1943
> 
> With the completion of the last of five crematoria at
> Birkenau, the killing center now has the capacity to
> cremate 4,750 corpses a day. (USHMM 1993, 37)

That's 40 bodies/hour/crema McVay.
Not long ago, I read on the net, in my area new, modern crematorium was 
built and they hope to be able to cremate 1500 bodies a year.
WW2 coal fired crematorium can do 4750 bodies a day, 1,733,750 bodies a 
year? You are a liar McVay!

> 
> 1944
> 
> In Paris the resistance kills Minister of Information
> Phillipe Henriot, a radio commentator and a high-ranking
> officer in the `Milice.' Paul Touvier, head of the `Milice'
> in Lyon, is ordered to shoot hostages in reprisal for
> Henriot's death, and on June 30 he selects seven of twenty-
> five Jewish prisoners to be executed by firing squad.
> (USHMM 1994, 47)
> 
> Radio Kossuth, Communist-sponsored broadcasts aimed at
> Hungary,

Da Communist? You couldn't find better liers than them, McVay!

  announces that two hundred thousand Hungarian Jews
> have been killed in the past few months. This broadcast
> follows several programs in the preceding three months
> warning of the extermination of the Jews and Hungarian
> responsibility for it. (Ibid.)
> 
> The British war cabinet approves a memorandum by the lord
> chancellor which states, in part, that Britain will gather
> evidence of German atrocities against Jews only in occupied
> countries, since German crimes against German Jews could in
> their view not be considered war crimes. (Ibid.)
> 
> 
>                        Work Cited
> 
> USHMM (United States Holocaust Memorial Museum). Fifty
>    Years Ago: Revolt Amid the Darkness: Days of Remembrance,
>    April 18-25, 1993. Washington, D.C.: 1993
>                               
> USHMM (United States Holocaust Memorial Museum). Fifty
>    Years Ago: Darkness Before Dawn: Days of Remembrance, April
>    3-10, 1994. Washington, D.C.: 1994


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Venceremos wrote:
> On Jun 27, 11:38 am, TurkeyBoy  wrote:
>> On Jun 27, 5:04 am, "ElParedon"  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> "RJ11"  wrote in messagenews:f5re9f$di8$1@pcls4.std.com...
>>>> In article ,
>>>> Binyamin Cramer  wrote:
>>>>> WOOOOOHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>>>> This should guarantee a lively response from the shills.
>>>>   Consider this "lively",  doper:
>>>>  http://www.auschwitz.org.pl/html/de/aktualnosci/news.php?rok=1999
>>>>   This link contains scans of some reports from Veesenmayer,
>>>> indicating for example that by July 9 1944 437,402 Hungarian
>>>> Jews were deported (scroll to near bottom,  see also
>>> Fucking liar! In July 1944, German troops in Hungary did not have enough
>>> gasoline to power a lawnmower, and you are saying that they transported half
>>> a million Jews thousand miles.
>>> german trucks and cars at that time operated on wood fired gas generators
>>> stuck in the trunk of the car. We who have been there do not believ in the
>>> Jewish garbage stories.
>>> Nazis deported thousands of Jews who were working in the Messerschmidt
>>> factory in Gyor, and Buda, back to their new location inside Germany, to
>>> work there. They were not sent to be killed
>> Does anybody really care after 60+ years?
>>
>> I hurt my big toe this morning That is real!
>>
>> Look, I just assume that the Nazis killed many Jews because that is
>> what I hear all the time. Do I know anything for sure? Not really. I
>> think everybody has a reason to protect their version of the story and
>> they all managed to do such a good job that it all boils down to whom
>> you want to believe.
>>
>> Whom do you want to believe?
>>
>> Have a nice vegetarian day!
> 
> Nazis killed many millions of Slavs and Russians, but it is only Jews
> that count!
> 

Than who killed 9 million Germans?
JS


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RJ11 wrote:
> In article ,
> Protagonist   wrote:
> 
>> Ken McVay wrote:
> 
>>> June 28
>>>
>>> 1943
>>>
>>> With the completion of the last of five crematoria at
>>> Birkenau, the killing center now has the capacity to
>>> cremate 4,750 corpses a day. (USHMM 1993, 37)
> 
>> That's 40 bodies/hour/crema McVay.
> 
>    Per crematorium,  not per muffle.  Do you understand
> the difference?
> 
> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/auschwitz/images/ftp.py?camps/auschwitz/images//Furnace.jpg
> 
> RJ.


Here ja go!
 >>in my area new, modern crematorium was built and they hope to be able 
to cremate 1500 bodies a year.
WW2 coal fired crematorium can do 4750 bodies a day, 1,733,750 bodies a 
year? You are a liar McVay!<<

JS


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RJ11 wrote:
> In article <2-ednVRrFJ-vsBnbnZ2dnUVZ_i2dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> Binyamin Cramer  wrote:
> 
>    (snip)
> 
>    http://www.auschwitz.org.pl/images/760px/Kremat_II_piece.jpg
> 
>    These are the cremation muffles in ONE of the crematoriums.
> 
>    Are we making progress here?  Can you understand the difference
> between a muffle and a crematorium?  And between ONE crematorium
> and many crematoriums?  Take all the time you need,  doper.
> 
> RJ.

You still had not enlighten us, how many muffles/crematorium was installed?

On the picture, only 14 are shown.
So, how you cremate 40 bodies/ hour?
Modern crematorium need 1 1/2 to 2 hours to cremate a body.
JS


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http://www.geniebusters.org/915/04g_gas.html

Women and children in the camps

There is another reason that I originally included in my list of 
reasons, but I removed it because strictly speaking it doesn't bear 
directly on the gas chamber question. However it is something that I 
have not seen mentioned elsewhere, and if you widen the context of the 
discussion just a little, it is relevant.

I am referring to the fact that women and children lived in the 
concentration camps. Anne Frank is the most famous example. The standard 
story that we are all supposed to believe is that when the Jews 
disembarked from the train, they were sorted into two groups, and the 
ones who were not fit for labor were taken to the gas chambers, 
immediately. How then could a little girl spend two months in Auschwitz, 
and five months in Bergen-Belsen? She finally died of typhus in March of 
1945. Why wasn't she gassed in the summer of 1944, as soon as she 
arrived at Auschwitz?

I recently found another example. This article is not about the 
concentration camps per se. It is about a woman who is trying to get the 
Czech authorities to acknowledge her father as a resistance fighter. The 
camps are mentioned in passing:

After the outbreak of the Second World War Jiøina Urbanová's parents 
joined the antifascist resistance movement. Ema Faitová worked in Nation 
Revival for the famous combat unit Morávek - Balabán - Masín. The 
Gestapo seized both of them in the beginning of the year 1943. Father 
was executed by the fascists in Flossenburg in February 1945 and Mother 
went through the camps in Auschwitz, Birkenau, Ravensbruck and 
Neustadt-Gleve. Jiøina being 4 years old together with her 7-year-old 
brother went into an orphanage... Both the children met their mother 
only after the war.

Here you have a woman who went through four camps, including two of the 
"extermination camps." She spent two years in these camps and survived.

On the Scrapbook site (reference given below), the same phenomenon is 
mentioned:

When the size of the Birkenau camp is quoted as a mile long by a mile 
and a half wide, this measurement includes the security area around the 
camp and the Mexico section; the actual area where the prisoners lived 
is not that large. Still, I heard one survivor say that she lived in the 
camp for two years and never found out the location of the latrine. 
Another survivor who lived there as a child said that she never saw her 
father the whole time she was in the camp, although he was also a 
prisoner there.

This by itself does not imply that there were no gas chambers, but it 
does imply that Jews were not routinely exterminated in the Nazi 
concentration camps.

The following paragraphs are from an article by Mark Weber, "Pages from 
the Auschwitz Death Registry Volumes" (reference given below).

Consistent with the Sterbebuch records, other German wartime documents 
show that a very high percentage of the Jewish inmates at Auschwitz were 
not able to work, and were nevertheless not killed.

For example, an internal German telex message dated September 4, 1943, 
>from the chief of the Labor Allocation department of the SS Economic and 
Administrative Main Office (WVHA), reported that of 25,000 Jewish 
inmates in Auschwitz, only 3,581 were able to work. All of the remaining 
Jewish inmates -- some 21,500, or about 86 percent -- were unable to work.

This is also confirmed in a secret report dated April 5, 1944, on 
"security measures in Auschwitz" by Oswald Pohl, head of the WVHA agency 
responsible for the concentration camp system, to SS chief Heinrich 
Himmler. Pohl reported that there was a total of 67,000 inmates in the 
Auschwitz camp complex, of whom 18,000 were hospitalized or disabled. In 
the Auschwitz II camp (Birkenau), supposedly the main extermination 
center, there were 36,000 inmates, mostly female, of whom "approximately 
15,000 are unable to work."



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Look it the lying idiots! Claiming a human body can be turned into ashes 
in 20 minutes, when in a modern gas fired crematorium it takes 1.5-2 hours.
JS

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18083304/site/newsweek/page/0/

 >>April 23, 2007 issue - "The head takes the longest to burn; two 
little blue flames flicker from the eyeholes ... the entire process 
lasts twenty minutes—and a human being, a world, has been turned into 
ashes."<<<


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Binyamin Cramer wrote:
> 
> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
> news:1a6dnXGoreITkxjbnZ2dnUVZ_gSdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Look it the lying idiots! Claiming a human body can be turned into 
>> ashes in 20 minutes, when in a modern gas fired crematorium it takes 
>> 1.5-2 hours.
>> JS
> 
> Exactly.
> 
> I've witnessed cremations in India, where a body, placed on a pyre of 
> hardwood of up to three or more tonnes, even after four hours of 
> burning, still has huge chunks of body and bone left.
> 
>>
>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18083304/site/newsweek/page/0/
>>
>> >>April 23, 2007 issue - "The head takes the longest to burn; two
>> little blue flames flicker from the eyeholes ... the entire process 
>> lasts twenty minutes—and a human being, a world, has been turned into 
>> ashes."<<< 
> 

Exactly! I can't even fry a chicken in 20 minutes.
That's how they come up with these outrages number, 4750 bodies / day 
can be cremated.
If they put 2 bodies in one oven it can be done in 10 minutes!!!! (o: . 
Hahaha!
JS




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Binyamin Cramer wrote:
> http://judicial-inc.biz/wolfboy_of_Auschwitz.htm

Hahaha! Bed time stories for kids?!
JS


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RJ11 wrote:
>    Oops -- forgot the link:
> 
>    http://www.holocaust-history.org/gusen-cremation-timesheet/
> 
> In article , RJ11   wrote:
> 
>>    Note Nov. 7 entry,  and consider that the Gusen crematorium
>> had two muffles.
> 
> RJ.

Ja! Sure idiot!

 >>How long does it take to cremate a body?

Cremating at the optimum temperature (1400-1800 degrees), the average 
weighted remains takes 2 to 2 1/2 hours. Several more hours may be 
required before the cremated remains are available to the family.<<

http://www.nfda.org/page.php?pID=160#long
JS


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george wrote:
> On Jun 30, 4:28 am, RJ11  wrote:
>>    Oops -- forgot the link:
>>
>>    http://www.holocaust-history.org/gusen-cremation-timesheet/
>>
> 
> Thanks.
> I wasn't aware that that depth of research was available.
> It's getting impossible for neonazis to make their absurd claims
> 

 >>How long does it take to cremate a body?

Cremating at the optimum temperature (1400-1800 degrees), the average 
weighted remains takes 2 to 2 1/2 hours. Several more hours may be 
required before the cremated remains are available to the family.<<

http://www.nfda.org/page.php?pID=160#long
JS


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george wrote:
> On Jun 30, 4:28 am, RJ11  wrote:
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>>
>>    http://www.holocaust-history.org/gusen-cremation-timesheet/
>>
> 
> Thanks.
> I wasn't aware that that depth of research was available.
> It's getting impossible for neonazis to make their absurd claims
> 

Jews can forge any thing!
JS


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Binyamin Cramer wrote:
> 
> "george"  wrote in message 
> news:1183149998.810492.298160@a26g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jun 30, 4:28 am, RJ11  wrote:
>>>    Oops -- forgot the link:
>>>
>>>    http://www.holocaust-history.org/gusen-cremation-timesheet/
>>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>> I wasn't aware that that depth of research was available.
> 
> "Research?"  "Research?'  Not from that lot it isn't.
> 
> 
> 

Any way!
Picture in the article is a reenactment, not real!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18083304/site/newsweek/page/0/
Maybe they mistaken, taking the picture took 20 minutes!
Hint: Dark, long exposure etc.... (o:
JS

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