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Jason James wrote:
> "Protagonist"  wrote in message
> news:AOWdnR4w39PuHFzYnZ2dnUVZ_rCsnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> World Bank President Paul Wolfowitz may be dedicated to freeing the
>> world from poverty - but he seems unable to afford a new pair of socks.
>>
>> Mr Wolfowitz's sartorial deficiencies were revealed when he took his
>> shoes off while visiting a mosque in Edirne, western Turkey.
>>
>> Both of the grey socks sported holes with his big toes peeking through.
>>
>> The last World Bank annual report, for 2006, puts the president's salary
>> as of 1 July, 2005, at $391,440 (£200,279).
> 
> Maybe a pair of nazi officer's boots maybe more appropriate, like the pair
> you wear when you dress-up with your monocle and nazi uniform,..Saki? That
> way he could leave his foot attire on.
> 
> Jason
> 
> 
...or maybe you can suck my dingaling any time, little Nazi hater Jew!
JS


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Ron Jacobson wrote:
> In article ,
> B'inyamin Cramer  wrote:
> 
>    ("Holocaust revisionism" drivel snipped)
> 
>    Just deal with the evidence,  "Ben".
> 
>    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1673471.stm
> 
>    Mass graves found at Nazi camp
> Researchers have discovered seven mass graves at the Sobibor Nazi
> death camp in north-eastern Poland.
> 
>    The research team,  which began its government-sponsored investigation
> in the summer,  said the graves -- the largest of which is about half
> the size of a football pitch -- contain charred remains.
> 
>    
> 
>    A very elaborate study of the mass graves in the Belzec death camp was
> conducted a few years ago by a team of Polish archaeologists,  headed by
> Prof. Andrzej Kola from the University of Torun in Poland,  who is the
> author of more than 130 papers on archaeology.  The team studied the site
> of the death camp,  drilling 1,700 bore holes and investigating the core
> samples.  The results are summarized in an 84 page report (ANDRZEJ KOLA:
> "BELZEC.  THE NAZI CAMP FOR JEWS IN THE LIGHT OF ARCHAEOLOGICAL SOURCES.
> Excavations 1997-1999".  ISBN 83-905590-6-4).  The study has recovered
> human remains over a very large area,  to a depth of up to six meters.
> The minimal estimate to the volume of the graves is 21,000 cubic meters.
> 
> RJ.

Right! That was 6 years ago and we still don't know if those are human 
beings, Martians or just the horse meat left over from dinner.
Dig them up boy, let's see the forensic evidence.
What are you affrayed of?
JS


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Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:
> In article ,
> Protagonist   wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
>> ...or maybe you can suck my dingaling any time, little Nazi hater Jew!
> 
> Speaking of dinalings:
> 
> Question 1:
> -----------
> 
> On June 13, 2005, you wrote:
> 
> "Although a final figure of Jews killed by the Einsatzgruppen has never been 
>  presented, the most extreme estimates by 

>>>Yad Vashem and others say that   between 900,000 and 1.25 million people - Jews and others - were killed by 
>  the special action units."<<<

Haha! Must be true! Yada Yada and the others sad some thing.
Did they add the ones the Jewish commies killed too?
JS

ry!
> 
> Please present evidence that Nizkor is run for a profit. 
> 

Every one knows that, common knowledge!
You're rich McVay, otherwise you are only good for picking vegetables.
JS


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Jason James wrote:
> "Protagonist"  wrote in message
> news:t7idnQY14PrED1_YnZ2dnUVZ_v7inZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> Maybe a pair of nazi officer's boots maybe more appropriate, like the
> pair
>>> you wear when you dress-up with your monocle and nazi uniform,..Saki?
> That
>>> way he could leave his foot attire on.
>>>
>>> Jason
>>>
>>>
>> ...or maybe you can suck my dingaling any time, little Nazi hater Jew!
>> JS
> 
> Couple of Freudian slips here:  Saki likes males to give him oral sex and he
> uses "nazi hater" as a perjoritive term thereby in effect saying a "nazi
> lover" is the norm. No surprises there.
> 
> Jason
> 
> 
Go back to your Nizkor fairy land.
To you reality is like, what Picasso splashed on his canvas.
JS


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B'inyamin Cramer wrote:
> "Jason James"  wrote in message 
> news:45c25af2$0$68808$c30e37c6@ken-reader.news.telstra.net...
>> "Protagonist"  wrote in message
>> news:AOWdnR4w39PuHFzYnZ2dnUVZ_rCsnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> World Bank President Paul Wolfowitz may be dedicated to freeing the
>>> world from poverty - but he seems unable to afford a new pair of socks.
>>>
>>> Mr Wolfowitz's sartorial deficiencies were revealed when he took his
>>> shoes off while visiting a mosque in Edirne, western Turkey.
>>>
>>> Both of the grey socks sported holes with his big toes peeking through.
>>>
>>> The last World Bank annual report, for 2006, puts the president's salary
>>> as of 1 July, 2005, at $391,440 (£200,279).
>> Maybe a pair of nazi officer's boots maybe more appropriate,
> 
> Certainly would be for Wolfowitz, the architect of the [lost] war in Iraq.
> 
> 
> 
Wolfowitz needed the attention for some reason, that's why the hole in 
the socks.
Many times I noticed, some boring, fat , gray suit politician is on the 
news photo, all ways some good looking blond woman is in the back 
ground, some times even in red dress.
Eye catching!
JS




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kmcvay@nizkor.org.nospam wrote:
> [Follow-ups set]
> 
> February 2
> 
> 1944
> 
> A Jewish transport from Trieste arrives at Auschwitz-
> Birkenau; almost all of the deportees are gassed on arrival.
> (USHMM, 1994. Pg. 27)
> 
>                          Work Cited
>                               
> USHMM (United States Holocaust Memorial Museum). Fifty
>    Years Ago: Darkness Before Dawn: Days of Remembrance, April
>    3-10, 1994. Washington, D.C.: 1994

'nother Jewish flight of fantasy!

JS


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ticxix6Pqc0


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Ron Jacobson wrote:
> In article ,
> Protagonist   wrote:
> 
>> Ron Jacobson wrote:
> 
>>>    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1673471.stm
>>>
>>>    Mass graves found at Nazi camp
>>> Researchers have discovered seven mass graves at the Sobibor Nazi
>>> death camp in north-eastern Poland.
>>>
>>>    The research team,  which began its government-sponsored investigation
>>> in the summer,  said the graves -- the largest of which is about half
>>> the size of a football pitch -- contain charred remains.
>>>
>>>    
>>>
>>>    A very elaborate study of the mass graves in the Belzec death camp was
>>> conducted a few years ago by a team of Polish archaeologists,  headed by
>>> Prof. Andrzej Kola from the University of Torun in Poland,  who is the
>>> author of more than 130 papers on archaeology.  The team studied the site
>>> of the death camp,  drilling 1,700 bore holes and investigating the core
>>> samples.  The results are summarized in an 84 page report (ANDRZEJ KOLA:
>>> "BELZEC.  THE NAZI CAMP FOR JEWS IN THE LIGHT OF ARCHAEOLOGICAL SOURCES.
>>> Excavations 1997-1999".  ISBN 83-905590-6-4).  The study has recovered
>>> human remains over a very large area,  to a depth of up to six meters.
>>> The minimal estimate to the volume of the graves is 21,000 cubic meters.
> 
>> Right! That was 6 years ago and we still don't know if those are human 
>> beings, Martians or just the horse meat left over from dinner.
> 
>    Enough with this idiocy,  please.  The remains were tested
> to be of human origin.
> 
> RJ.

Ja, enough of yours! All it takes is a shovel and dig up a few bodies 
for proof.
Have you noticed there too many skeptics out there, idiot?
What are you afraid of?
JS




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Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:
> In article <256dnQ6EDIhZnV7YnZ2dnUVZ_uOmnZ2d@comcast.com>,
> Protagonist   wrote:
>> Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:
>>> In article ,
>>> Protagonist   wrote:
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>> ...or maybe you can suck my dingaling any time, little Nazi hater Jew!
>>> Speaking of dinalings:
>>>
>>> Question 1:
>>> -----------
>>>
>>> On June 13, 2005, you wrote:
>>>
>>> "Although a final figure of Jews killed by the Einsatzgruppen has never been 
>>>  presented, the most extreme estimates by 
>>>>> Yad Vashem and others say that   between 900,000 and 1.25 million people - Jews and
>> others - were killed by 
>>>  the special action units."<<<
>> Haha! Must be true! Yada Yada and the others sad some thing.
>> Did they add the ones the Jewish commies killed too?
>> JS
>>
>> ry!
>>> Please present evidence that Nizkor is run for a profit. 
>>>
>> Every one knows that, common knowledge!
>> You're rich McVay, otherwise you are only good for picking vegetables.
> 
> Evasion noted. The dimwitted Szaki cannot present evidence in support of his
> allegation... as usual.
> 

I don't fabricate falls evidence like you Jews do all the time, than 
presented as if it was real and sue people over it.
JS



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Binyamin Cramer wrote:
> "Gord McFee"  wrote in message 
> news:12s80ls2c95ttb4@corp.supernews.com...
>> On 2/2/2007 5:30 AM, Protagonist wrote:
>>
>>> Ron Jacobson wrote:
>>>> In article , Protagonist 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ron Jacobson wrote:
>>>>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1673471.stm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mass graves found at Nazi camp Researchers have discovered
>>>>>> seven mass graves at the Sobibor Nazi death camp in
>>>>>> north-eastern Poland.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The research team,  which began its government-sponsored
>>>>>> investigation in the summer,  said the graves -- the largest of
>>>>>> which is about half the size of a football pitch -- contain
>>>>>> charred remains.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A very elaborate study of the mass graves in the Belzec death
>>>>>> camp was conducted a few years ago by a team of Polish
>>>>>> archaeologists,  headed by Prof. Andrzej Kola from the
>>>>>> University of Torun in Poland,  who is the author of more than
>>>>>> 130 papers on archaeology.  The team studied the site of the
>>>>>> death camp,  drilling 1,700 bore holes and investigating the
>>>>>> core samples.  The results are summarized in an 84 page report
>>>>>> (ANDRZEJ KOLA: "BELZEC.  THE NAZI CAMP FOR JEWS IN THE LIGHT OF
>>>>>> ARCHAEOLOGICAL SOURCES. Excavations 1997-1999".  ISBN
>>>>>> 83-905590-6-4).  The study has recovered human remains over a
>>>>>> very large area,  to a depth of up to six meters. The minimal
>>>>>> estimate to the volume of the graves is 21,000 cubic meters.
>>>>> Right! That was 6 years ago and we still don't know if those are
>>>>> human beings, Martians or just the horse meat left over from
>>>>> dinner.
>>>> Enough with this idiocy,  please.  The remains were tested to be of
>>>> human origin.
>>>>
>>>> RJ.
>>> Ja, enough of yours! All it takes is a shovel and dig up a few bodies
>>>  for proof. Have you noticed there too many skeptics out there,
>>> idiot? What are you afraid of?
>> Reread what he wrote, moron.  The remains have already been tested and
>> they are human.
> 
> By whom? And where might one find the results of said tests?

By Da Jews and they said, they are Jews in Da ground!
What ever Da Jew say Must be true!
JS


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LIBERATOR wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckrk1iqYdfM&mode=related&search=
> 
> Wow.
> 

Have you noticed, Hitler often riding in open cars in front of a large 
crowd, but no one made a sucker shot?
All though, he suppose to ordered to kill many millions!
But Kennedy, a FREE democracy leader was gun down like a dog.
Also, i see Hitler smiles in many of the old films, never seen Stalin, 
the Jew doing it?
JS


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Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:
> In article <21432-45C55268-27@storefull-3151.bay.webtv.net>,
> Curly C  wrote:
>> Again, a holohoaxer like Roger has no clue what he is talking about or
>> else spends so much time at nizkor that he only learns one side of the
>> story. Don't you even realize what DDE's nickname was at West Point?
>> Don't you know what was written in his personal letters to his wife and
>> others? 
> 
> Whether or not he hated Germans has nothing to do with the fact that Bacque's assertions
> were utter nonsense.
> 
> Even the German government agrees, Bubba. It didn't happen.
> 
> Get used to it.
> 
> http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/b/bacque-james/ambrose-001.html
> 
> (Whadda maroon.)
> 
Yes, moron McVay, German gov. also supports the Holohoax lies!
German gov. today is Zionist controlled.
My Hungarian teacher was in Allie POW camp after WW2 in Germany, told me 
stories how much they starved.
JS


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Patrick Keenan wrote:
> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
> news:c7ydnZHL4dDdPFjYnZ2dnUVZ_uSgnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> LIBERATOR wrote:
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckrk1iqYdfM&mode=related&search=
>>>
>>> Wow.
>>>
>> Have you noticed, Hitler often riding in open cars in front of a large 
>> crowd, but no one made a sucker shot?
> 
> Psst!   How many Germans other than card-carrying Party members had 
> firearms?
> 
> Private firearm ownership was regulated in Germany before the Nazis came to 
> power.  And in 1933, when they did take power, the Nazis started 
> confiscating firearms.
> 
> In other words, the population had largely been disarmed.

Don't mean any thing, Jewish assasines can get fire arms any where!

> 
>> All though, he suppose to ordered to kill many millions!
> 
> More than supposed.   But you know that already.
> 
>> But Kennedy, a FREE democracy leader was gun down like a dog.
> 
> In an area where private gun ownership is considered a sacred right.

Even today, Europe has a strict fire arms control.

> 
> Thanks for demonstrating your inability to compare.

You getting dumber every day!
JS

> 
> HTH
> -pk
> 
> 
>> Also, i see Hitler smiles in many of the old films, never seen Stalin, the 
>> Jew doing it?
>> JS 
> 
> 


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Ron Jacobson wrote:
>    Two of the Auschwitz-Birkenau crematoriums:
> 
>    http://www.holocaust-history.org/~dkeren/documents/auschwitz/krema3.shtml
>    http://www.holocaust-history.org/~dkeren/documents/auschwitz/krema4.shtml
> 
> RJ.
> 

Built by the Soviets!!!!
They have more experience than the Germans.
Expertise gained from the Gulags!
JS


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Gunner wrote:
> On Sun, 04 Feb 2007 15:46:41 -0800, Stuart Grey
>  wrote:
> 
>> Gunner wrote:
>>> On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 20:11:00 -0800, Stuart Grey
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Notan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Stuart Grey wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Notan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Stuart Grey wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Roger wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Terryc"  wrote in message 
>>>>>>>>> news:45c3dc3e$0$1032$61c65585@un-2park-reader-01.sydney.pipenetworks.com.au... 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Stuart Grey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, regarding the holocaust, the best you can rationally say 
>>>>>>>>>>> between the two theories, one that the genocide was deliberate 
>>>>>>>>>>> and large and the other than the deaths were a result of a typhus 
>>>>>>>>>>> outbreak and large but not in the millions is "don't know".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> oooooohhhh, religiously aware typhoid baccilus.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Pardon him, he's off his meds. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Curious. Why you lying, slandering commie bastards think that typhus 
>>>>>>>> isn't a problem in close quarters, or why you believe that everyone 
>>>>>>>> in the Nazi concentration camps were Jewish? Only about 1/3 of the 
>>>>>>>> people in the concentration camps were Jewish. Communist, criminals, 
>>>>>>>> homosexuals, and the insane were also sent to the concentration camps.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Most historians say the majority of those killed were Jews... ~6 
>>>>>>> million.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Humm. How did they get that number, anyway?
>>>>>
>>>>> The Nazis, if nothing else, were good record keepers.
>>>>
>>>> Prove that is how the numbers was determined.
>>>
>>> The Nazi's used early IBM computers to do much of their tallies.
>> Yes, but the United States holocaust museum says that the way the number 
>> of Jewish deaths was calculated was by taking the number of Jews in 1933 
>> and comparing it to the number of Jews after the war; it says nothing 
>> about the Nazi's official tally.
> 
> 
>> What was the Nazi's official tally, anyway?
> 
> There really has to my knowledge, been an official Nazi tally.
> However..based on the numbers the Nazi's DID record, both in the camps
> and the Einsatzgruppen's reports..the figures DO roughly match the
> Museums numbers. And in fact..are likely to add up to more than the
> museums numbers. The Nazis up till 1945..were pretty good record
> keepers. In '45..they burned a lot of records as the Allies were
> approaching the camps. Further still..a number of the bookkeepers and
> accountants surrendered to the Allies..and while not guards or official
> SS members..they testified as to the numbers they were working with.
> 
> So I well believe the museums numbers are conservative.  And of
> course..the Types of prisoners was rather myrid..and pretty well
> documented as well.
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_concentration_camp_badges
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identification_in_Nazi_camps
> 
>>> The camps contained far more than Jews. Stu was right about the
>>> communists, criminals, homosexuals and so forth. They were killed right
>>> along with the Jews. In some cases, political prisoners (those against
>>> the Reich etc) were also put in the camps. Some..some of those survived.
>>> Gypsies were also a notable group put into the camps, and they tended to
>>> not be Jewish.  The retarded, the insane and so forth, were generally
>>> simply euthanized in German hospitals, but they too are part of the body
>>> count.
>>>
>>> However..the death tolls were actually far higher than the "SWAG"
>>> (scientific wild assed guess based on the Nazi's own murder data)
>>> because the claimed numbers are largely only stating the numbers of
>>> Jewish deaths, not including all others, and in most cases, did NOT
>>> include the deaths attributed to the Einsatzgruppen death squads in the
>>> East, nor those attributed to the Nazi backed purges by "subject
>>> nations"
>>>
>>> When the tallies of total numbers of deaths Attributed to the Nazis
>>> regime, of "enemies of the state", they are well into the 11-12
>>> millions.
>> It seems like a number arrived at by a guess.
> 
> Its called an best case estimate.  Based on largely hard written
> evidence, and followed up by testimony of those accountants and
> bookkeepers and so forth. Keep in mind, a lot of the Nazis who were
> actually in the know..died in the fighting at the end of the war, and as
> the camps closed..they were sent off to fight the Russians. Frankly..a
> lot of the camps were running low on slave labor or Jews by 1945...the
> Germans being nothing but efficient in their mass murders. They had
> killed off most of Europes jews by 1945, as well as those in Poland, the
> Slovinias and so forth.
>>> This of course does not include those killed in actual warfare, such as
>>> the 20 million or so the Russians lost (civilians included) and so
>>> forth.
>>>
>>> And again..these numbers are almost moot to those the Communists killed
>>> of their own peoples..somewhere in the order of 174,000,000 in various
>>> purges etc
>> The communist get a pass. Only non-communist murders are considered 
>> horrific. There was barely a peep when Pol Pot murdered 3 million 
>> Cambodians, for example, and there is little outrage over the murders 
>> committed by Stalin and Mao.
> 
> From who? Liberals?
>> Why would this be, if it was not for propaganda purposes? There seems to 
>> be little objectivity, other than to drive home "Nazi = bad, Communist = 
>> not bad".
> 
> Apples and oranges. Both are bad of course. And its not just  some
> liberal Jews that give the Communists a pass.
> 
> And Stu..counting the Jews in 1933 and comparing it to those surviving
> in 1947 IS a decent enough way to get a rough estimate of those numbers
> who went up the chimney. They certainly didnt all immigrate out of
> Europe..so where DID they go?  UFOs certainly didnt come haul them off
> to Hebron IV.
> 
> Ive done a walk about in Europe...and the number of Jewish villages,
> well marked by old graveyards sure doesnt match up with the numbers of
> Jews, even today.
> 
> Gunner
> 
> 

Right, Gunner! ...and your sources are?

Here is the answer:
     * United States Holocaust Memorial Museum Classification system in 
Nazi concentration camps.
     * Stars, triangles and markings - Jewish Virtual Library
     * Gay Prisoners in Concentration Camps as Compared with Jehovah's 
Witnesses and Political Prisoners by Ruediger Lautmann

Must be true, eh?
JS


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McVay is desperate, loosing his money on the Holohoax!
JS


kmcvay@nizkor.org.nospam wrote:
> [Follow-ups set]
> 
> February 6
> 
> 1943
> 
> Himmler receives a report on the quantities of "used
> clothing" collected from Auschwitz and Majdanek -- including
> twenty-two thousand pairs of children's shoes -- which are
> to be shipped to the Reich for reutilization by ethnic
> German settlers and in the German economy. (USHMM, 1993. Pg. 22)
> 
> An order from Eichmann's Jewish department of the RSHA
> states that all members of the ancient Greek-Jewish
> community of Salonika are to wear the yellow badge and to
> mark their homes and businesses as Jewish. The "Baron
> Hirsch" section of Salonika, named for the Jewish
> philanthropist, is opened as a transit camp and assembly
> center. (Ibid.)
> 
> 1944
> 
> The Polish Roma (Gypsy) prisoner Weronika Walansewicz
> (registered as Gypsy prisoner Z 9611) escapes from Auschwitz-
> Birkenau; she had been deported from Bialystok to Auschwitz
> on November 28, 1943. (USHMM, 1994. Pg. 28)
> 
> 
>                        Work Cited
> 
> USHMM (United States Holocaust Memorial Museum). Fifty
>    Years Ago: Revolt Amid the Darkness: Days of Remembrance,
>    April 18-25, 1993. Washington, D.C.: 1993
>                               
> USHMM (United States Holocaust Memorial Museum). Fifty
>    Years Ago: Darkness Before Dawn: Days of Remembrance, April
>    3-10, 1994. Washington, D.C.: 1994


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U.S. gov't to release new dollar coins
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070211/ap_on_bi_ge/money_ap_poll;_ylt=AiKqQ.6ilSfOLMg2PW9U0pdv24cA

I want the Pyramid and saying to rule Da world or some thing like Da New 
World order, Masonic symbols, all seeing eyes, owls, arrows, eagles etc...
Every time a pay, I want to feel that power!
What's going to happen now?
Only George on a simple coin? Noooooo!
Are we became gay with only George in my pocket?
At least scrape Liberty or Columbia on the that stupid coin, they are 
good looking chicks!
I want, I want, I want them.... in my pocket, next to my ..... dingilingi!
JS


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hoaxbuster@earthlink.net wrote:
> On Feb 11, 8:28 am, Protagonist  wrote:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNEXM4SsvOs&mode=related&search=
> 
> Congratulations to Matt Lauer. Bush and company deserve to be severely
> punished--and not just impeached.   They are despicable war criminals.
> Waterboarding prior to hanging for Bush and Cheney sounds pretty
> good.
> 
> Now one has an even better idea as to how Germans were treated at the
> end of WW2 in order to get them to testify in support of the most
> monstrous hoax and lies of all time.  No doubt, it would have all
> seemed even more legal at that time to the likes of Bush and Cheney--
> and even most Americans.
> 
> Friedrich Paul Berg
> Learn everything at www.nazigassings.com
> The "holocaust" really is a dirty jewish hoax. And it is so
> technically-stupid as well. Nazi Gassings Never Happened! Niemand
> wurde vergast!
> 

WOW! I want this job, pays over six figures in Free Masons money $$$!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ijhLy_V9iM&mode=related&search=
JS


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Bolshevist Atrocities

[[Here are 4 of 9 accounts]

Children Slaughtered

Soldier Fred Fallnbigl to his Parents in Salzburg, 17.7.41

I wrote in my last two letters about Russian atrocities, and could fill 
volumes more.

But a bit more from the Soviet Paradise. I'll especially tell you about 
things that happened in Lemberg-Tarnopol and Tromborla. Tromborla is due 
south of Tarnopol. I saw the prisons in Lemberg, and saw things that 
struck me deeply. There were men with their ears and noses cut off, etc. 
They had nailed children alive by their hands and feet to the wall, 
butchering them. The blood was ankle deep. It didn't make any difference 
if they were alive or dead. They doused the piles of bodies with 
gasoline and set them on fire. The stench was terrible. I saw similar 
things in Tarnopol and Tromborla. In T. seven Ukrainians were hauled out 
of their beds after the Germans had arrived. The next morning their 
bodies were found in the woods, beaten until they were unrecognizable. I 
have seen all of this myself, they are not matters I heard about. Feel 
free to tell them to others, particularly those who may still think well 
of the Soviet Union.

I always think how fortunate we are that this scourge of humanity never 
made it to our country. I don't think that even years of preparation 
would make Germans capable of such atrocities.


Corpses Defiled

Sergeant Paul Rubelt, Military Post Number 34 539 F, to Miss Grete 
Egger, Lebring 71, Steierark:

6.7.1941

I was in Lemberg yesterday and saw a bloodbath. It was terrible. Many 
had their skin stripped off, men were castrated, their eyes poked out, 
arms or legs chopped off. Some were nailed to the wall, 30-40 were 
sealed into a small room and suffocated. About 650 people in this area 
must have died in such ways. The stench can be endured only if one 
smokes a cigarette and keeps a handkerchief over one's nose. The Jews 
did most of it. Now they have to dig the graves. The culprits will be 
shot. Many already died because of the stench. In this city they even 
opened graves and defiled the corpses. It is terrible. One can hardly 
believe that such people exist.

Orphans Nailed to the Wall and Slaughtered

NCO K. Suffner, Military Post Number 08 070 to his work mates

There was a gray cloud over Lemberg as we arrived. The stench was 
scarcely tolerable. The Russians had been thrown out of the city after a 
hard battle. Two hours later I found the source of the stench. The 
Bolshevists and Jews bestially murdered 12,000 Germans and Ukrainians. I 
saw pregnant women hanging by their feet in the GPU's prison. They had 
slit the noses, ears, eyes, fingers, hands and arms and legs of other 
women. Some even had their hearts cut out. 300 orphans between the ages 
of 2 and 17 had been nailed to the wall and butchered. After they were 
done with the torture, they threw the people, most of whom were still 
alive, into a 3 meter deep pile in the basement, doused them with 
gasoline, and lit them on fire. It was terrible! We could not believe 
that shave suffered if Bolshevism had reached us. The complainers and 
know-it-alls that we still have in the Reich should see this. Then they 
would know what pure Bolshevism looks like. They would fall to their 
knees and thank the Führer for saving Germany from such things. I and 
many other German soldiers have seen this. We all thank the Führer that 
he let us see the Bolshevist "paradise." We swear to extirpate this 
plague root and branch.

Since I have some time today, I thought it my duty to write this so that 
my work mates at home can read it. We soldiers at the front have seen 
this with our own eyes. We will be able to tell a lot more later.

We are fighting until final victory.

Terrible Mutilations

Lieutenant Lorenz Wächter to a Political Leader in Neunkirchen:

20.8.1941

...I really can't describe what we saw in Lemberg. It is much, much 
worse that the German newspapers were able to describe. One has to have 
seen it. Even the stench of corpses, noticeable a long way outside the 
prison walls, was enough to make one ill. And the scene itself. Hundreds 
of murdered men, women and children, hideously mutilated. Men had their 
eyes poked out, a pastor with his belly slit open and the body of a 
slaughtered baby stuffed in. I could tell you worse stories, but even 
these upset me, and I'm used to such things by now.

Chapter 6

What Soldiers Want to Do with Grumblers
[Excerpts]

In the midst of all these experiences, observations and facts, nearly 
every soldier's letter expresses the wish that the complainers and 
know-it-alls should see what they have seen! Everyone who has not yet 
understood the greatness of our age and the significance of this 
greatest of all battles should see it for himself for a week. Countless 
millions of our people do their duty and sacrifice in good spirits. They 
accept the inconveniences of the war cheerfully. But even the most 
willing occasionally tire of the necessary burdens of everyday life 
during war. These soldiers' letters are good medicine in such moments. 
The facts German soldiers report home prove that there is no comparison 
between the war-related inconveniences we endure and the terrible 
conditions of perpetual misery that prevail even during "peace" in the 
Soviet Union. All the soldiers at the front wish that every German who 
even for a moment loses his energy and enthusiasm would have the chance 
to gain a personal impression of a country that despite the greatest 
natural resources and despite 25 years of uninterrupted rule by a 
government has the worse conditions in the world, conditions that can 
only be compared with the very worst English colonies. Looking into this 
abyss will banish all discontent.

[Here are 2 of 5 excerpts]

Every Critic of our Efforts should be Sent Here

Soldier Walter Sperath writes to the [NSDAP] county office Hamburg 6

Everything I have seen of the so-called workers' paradise is everything 
but lovely. One should send every citizen who even slightly criticizes 
our efforts here. He would thank the Führer and the movement that these 
conditions are not found in our Fatherland. Animals by us live in better 
conditions than the people here. Our successes so far have been great, 
and we will not stop until we have rooted out this evil root and branch, 
which will be a blessing for European culture and humanity.

The People's Eyes are Being Opened

NCO Alfred Rothe, Military Post Number 27 643 to his Wife in 
Kostermannsfeld, Burgstr. 5:

24.7.1941

....even without the war, the people here were impoverished and 
exhausted. Only the bigwigs lived well in palaces. Now the people's eyes 
are being opened. Anyone in Germany who still does not believe in 
communism's terrible crimes should see for himself, and listen to the 
people. Happy Germany, as I always say.

http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/feldpost.htm



kmcvay@nizkor.org.nospam wrote:
> [Follow-ups set]
> 
> February 12
> 
> 1940 (February 12/13)
> 
> Deportation of Stettin Jews to the Lublin District of Poland begins.
> (Ruerup, 118)
> 
> 1943 February 27
> 
> 1943
> 
> The firm of I.A. Topf and Sons, of Erfurt, sends a letter to
> the Central Construction Office of the SS and Police, in
> which the company acknowledges receipt of their order for
> five triple furnaces, including two electric elevators for
> raising corpses..." (LeBor, 32)
> 
> 1944
> 
> Ira Hirschmann is appointed as the War Refugee Board
> representative in Turkey; his main assignment is to find
> ships for the transport of Jews from Romanian ports to
> Istanbul. (USHMM, 1994. Pg. 28)
> 
>                          Work Cited
> 
> LeBor, Adam. Hitler's Secret Bankers: The Myth of Swiss
>   Neutrality During the Holocaust. Secaucus, N.J.: Carol
>   Publishing Group, 1997.
>                               
> USHMM (United States Holocaust Memorial Museum). Fifty
>    Years Ago: Darkness Before Dawn: Days of Remembrance, April
>    3-10, 1994. Washington, D.C.: 1994
> 
> Ruerup, Reinhard, Ed., trans. By Werner T. Angress. Topography of
>    Terror. Berliner Festspiele GmbH, Berlin: 1987
> 


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http://www.bytwerk.com/gpa/images/lb/lb43-49.jpg
JS


kmcvay@nizkor.org.nospam wrote:
> [Follow-ups set]
> 
> February 12
> 
> 1940 (February 12/13)
> 
> Deportation of Stettin Jews to the Lublin District of Poland begins.
> (Ruerup, 118)
> 
> 1943 February 27
> 
> 1943
> 
> The firm of I.A. Topf and Sons, of Erfurt, sends a letter to
> the Central Construction Office of the SS and Police, in
> which the company acknowledges receipt of their order for
> five triple furnaces, including two electric elevators for
> raising corpses..." (LeBor, 32)
> 
> 1944
> 
> Ira Hirschmann is appointed as the War Refugee Board
> representative in Turkey; his main assignment is to find
> ships for the transport of Jews from Romanian ports to
> Istanbul. (USHMM, 1994. Pg. 28)
> 
>                          Work Cited
> 
> LeBor, Adam. Hitler's Secret Bankers: The Myth of Swiss
>   Neutrality During the Holocaust. Secaucus, N.J.: Carol
>   Publishing Group, 1997.
>                               
> USHMM (United States Holocaust Memorial Museum). Fifty
>    Years Ago: Darkness Before Dawn: Days of Remembrance, April
>    3-10, 1994. Washington, D.C.: 1994
> 
> Ruerup, Reinhard, Ed., trans. By Werner T. Angress. Topography of
>    Terror. Berliner Festspiele GmbH, Berlin: 1987
> 


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Emil Ludwig Cohn, the classic example of a Jewish emigrant gifted at 
incitement, wrote in the American magazine "Les Annales":

     "Hitler does not want war, but he will be forced into it. England 
will have the last word, just as it did in 1914."

In the same year, the Jewish magazine "Natche Retsch" wrote:

     Our Jewish interests demand the final destruction of Germany. The 
German people itself is a danger to us. It is therefore impossible to 
allow Germany to grow strong under its current government."<<


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Binyamin Cramer wrote:
> On Feb 12, 12:38 am, Protagonist  wrote:
>> Emil Ludwig Cohn, the classic example of a Jewish emigrant gifted at
>> incitement, wrote in the American magazine "Les Annales":
>>
>>      "Hitler does not want war, but he will be forced into it. England
>> will have the last word, just as it did in 1914."
>>
>> In the same year, the Jewish magazine "Natche Retsch" wrote:
>>
>>      Our Jewish interests demand the final destruction of Germany. The
>> German people itself is a danger to us. It is therefore impossible to
>> allow Germany to grow strong under its current government."<<
> 
> I would like to see you on a web cam, if you're interested.
> 

Sorry Ben! I prefer privacy!
JS


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Hahahahahahahahaha!
McVay Da retard!
JS

http://www.legis.state.ga.us/legis/2007_08/fulltext/hr122.htm

Expressing profound regret for Georgia´s participation in the eugenics 
movement in the United States and marking the centennial of eugenic 
sterilization in the United States; and for other purposes.

WHEREAS, in the early 20th century, a pseudo-scientific movement called 
eugenics gained popularity in the United States and advocated the 
improvement of the human race by using selective breeding to eliminate 
supposed hereditary flaws such as mental disability and physical 
deformity; and

WHEREAS, in 1907, Indiana became the first state to enact a eugenics 
based sterilization law, mandating the sterilization of "confirmed 
criminals, idiots, rapists, and imbeciles"; and

WHEREAS, eventually more than 30 states enacted similar compulsory 
sterilization laws resulting in the involuntary sterilization of more 
than 65,000 individuals in the United States; and

WHEREAS, the Supreme Court sanctioned the practice of compulsory 
sterilization in an infamous 1927 decision by Justice Oliver Wendell 
Holmes in which the court upheld Virginia´s sterilization of a young 
woman in a mental health facility on the grounds that "three generations 
of imbeciles [were] enough"; and

WHEREAS, in 1937, Georgia created a State Board of Eugenics and 
authorized the involuntary sterilization of Georgia´s patients in state 
mental health facilities, as well as Georgia inmates in state prisons 
and reformatories; and

WHEREAS, even though Georgia was the last state to enact a sterilization 
law, it performed the fifth largest number of sterilizations in the 
nation, sterilizing approximately 3,300 of its citizens between 1937 and 
1970, the year the law was repealed; and

WHEREAS, more compulsory sterilizations were performed in Georgia 
between 1937 and 1970 than in any other state in the nation except North 
Carolina; and

WHEREAS, in addition to compulsory sterilization, Georgia and many other 
states enacted eugenics related legislation that attempted to preserve 
"racial integrity" by banning interracial marriage; and

WHEREAS, Georgia prohibited interracial marriages for 40 years, from 
1927, when it enacted its antimiscegenation law, to 1967, when the 
Supreme Court invalidated all such laws in its landmark Loving v. 
Virginia decision; and

WHEREAS, eugenics legislation targeted the most vulnerable populations 
in the United States, including the disabled, the incarcerated, the 
poor, the members of racial and ethnic minorities, and all others viewed 
as "genetically unfit" and provided a false scientific rationale for 
discriminatory and racist practices; and

WHEREAS, despite the harm done to many thousands of Americans in the 
name of eugenics, the eugenics movement is largely forgotten today; and

WHEREAS, in the past five years, several other states, including 
Virginia, Oregon, North Carolina, and California, have publicly 
repudiated their involvement in the eugenics movement; and

WHEREAS, the year 2007 marks the centennial of eugenic sterilization in 
the United States and the 70th anniversary of the passage of Georgia´s 
sterilization law.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES that the 
members of this body express their profound regret for Georgia´s 
participation in the eugenics movement and the injustices done under 
eugenics laws, including the involuntary sterilization of Georgia citizens.

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the members of this body hereby support the 
full education of Georgia citizens about the eugenics movement in order 
to ensure that a more enlightened population repudiates the intolerance 
and bigotry that formed the basis of American eugenics laws and rejects 
similar laws in the future.

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the Clerk of the House of Representatives is 
authorized and directed to transmit an appropriate copy of this 
resolution to the public and the press.
kmcvay@nizkor.org.nospam wrote:
> [Follow-ups set]
> 
> February 14
> 
> 1944
> 
> Arthur Greiser,  Gauleiter and governor of the Wartheland,
> and Reichsfuehrer SS Heinrich Himmler agree that the Lodz
> ghetto is to be reduced in size and that it will not be
> reorganized as a concentration camp. (USHMM, 1994. Pg. 28)
> 
> Reich Marshal Hermann Goering requests concentration camp
> labor to build underground aircraft facilities. (Ibid.)
> 
> Heinrich Himmler orders Chelmno to be reopened as an
> extermination camp; it once again serves as a killing center
> from May to August 1944 during the liquidation of the Lodz
> ghetto. (Ibid., 29)
> 
> Hermann Goering asks Heinrich Himmler to provide slave
> laborers from the concentration camps for employment in the
> air armament industry. (1584-I-PS) (NCA II, 444-45) (see March 9)
> 
>                          Work Cited
>                               
> NCA II. Office of the United States Chief of Counsel for
>    Prosecution of Axis Criminality. Nazi Conspiracy and
>    Aggression, Volume II. Washington: United States Government Printing Office, 1946
>                               
> USHMM (United States Holocaust Memorial Museum). Fifty
>    Years Ago: Darkness Before Dawn: Days of Remembrance, April
>    3-10, 1994. Washington, D.C.: 1994
> 


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HOW COME I ONLY HEAR ABOUT THE NAZIS DOING IT?
js

Expressing profound regret for Georgia´s participation in the eugenics 
movement in the United States and marking the centennial of eugenic 
sterilization in the United States; and for other purposes.

WHEREAS, in the early 20th century, a pseudo-scientific movement called 
eugenics gained popularity in the United States and advocated the 
improvement of the human race by using selective breeding to eliminate 
supposed hereditary flaws such as mental disability and physical 
deformity; and

WHEREAS, in 1907, Indiana became the first state to enact a eugenics 
based sterilization law, mandating the sterilization of "confirmed 
criminals, idiots, rapists, and imbeciles"; and

WHEREAS, eventually more than 30 states enacted similar compulsory 
sterilization laws resulting in the involuntary sterilization of more 
than 65,000 individuals in the United States; and

WHEREAS, the Supreme Court sanctioned the practice of compulsory 
sterilization in an infamous 1927 decision by Justice Oliver Wendell 
Holmes in which the court upheld Virginia´s sterilization of a young 
woman in a mental health facility on the grounds that "three generations 
of imbeciles [were] enough"; and

WHEREAS, in 1937, Georgia created a State Board of Eugenics and 
authorized the involuntary sterilization of Georgia´s patients in state 
mental health facilities, as well as Georgia inmates in state prisons 
and reformatories; and

WHEREAS, even though Georgia was the last state to enact a sterilization 
law, it performed the fifth largest number of sterilizations in the 
nation, sterilizing approximately 3,300 of its citizens between 1937 and 
1970, the year the law was repealed; and

WHEREAS, more compulsory sterilizations were performed in Georgia 
between 1937 and 1970 than in any other state in the nation except North 
Carolina; and

WHEREAS, in addition to compulsory sterilization, Georgia and many other 
states enacted eugenics related legislation that attempted to preserve 
"racial integrity" by banning interracial marriage; and

WHEREAS, Georgia prohibited interracial marriages for 40 years, from 
1927, when it enacted its antimiscegenation law, to 1967, when the 
Supreme Court invalidated all such laws in its landmark Loving v. 
Virginia decision; and

WHEREAS, eugenics legislation targeted the most vulnerable populations 
in the United States, including the disabled, the incarcerated, the 
poor, the members of racial and ethnic minorities, and all others viewed 
as "genetically unfit" and provided a false scientific rationale for 
discriminatory and racist practices; and

WHEREAS, despite the harm done to many thousands of Americans in the 
name of eugenics, the eugenics movement is largely forgotten today; and

WHEREAS, in the past five years, several other states, including 
Virginia, Oregon, North Carolina, and California, have publicly 
repudiated their involvement in the eugenics movement; and

WHEREAS, the year 2007 marks the centennial of eugenic sterilization in 
the United States and the 70th anniversary of the passage of Georgia´s 
sterilization law.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES that the 
members of this body express their profound regret for Georgia´s 
participation in the eugenics movement and the injustices done under 
eugenics laws, including the involuntary sterilization of Georgia citizens.

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the members of this body hereby support the 
full education of Georgia citizens about the eugenics movement in order 
to ensure that a more enlightened population repudiates the intolerance 
and bigotry that formed the basis of American eugenics laws and rejects 
similar laws in the future.

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the Clerk of the House of Representatives is 
authorized and directed to transmit an appropriate copy of this 
resolution to the public and the press.

http://www.legis.state.ga.us/legis/2007_08/fulltext/hr122.htm


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Ray O'Hara wrote:
> "5,999,999"  wrote in message
> news:1171502393.901903.148810@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
>> These days, World War II is often called the "good war" [1]. In other
>> words, it's said that the war was necessary in order to stop fascism,
>> even though many people died in that conflict. [By the way, just for
>> the historical record, please recall that Britain and America decided
>> upon going to war with Germany and Japan early on. Both countries "set
>> the stage" for war long before war actually occurred].
> 
>  funny how japan and germany started the war then isn't it.
> 
> 

You are talking about shooting war.
Economical war started way earlier, by powerful Jews and Western Allies 
against Germany and Japan.
See, US oil embargo against Japan or the Jewish war declaration against 
Germany in 1933, for example!
Same pattern can be observed against Iran today, that is why for Iran 
going nuclear is most important, for deterrence.
JS






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Here ja go, pretty pictures of the bombing of Budapest!

http://www.netlabor.hu/roncskutatas/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=5931
http://www.netlabor.hu/roncskutatas/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=6221
http://www.mult-kor.hu/cikk.php?article=9242&page=3
http://www.mult-kor.hu/attachmets/9242/bomb7.jpg

hoaxbuster@earthlink.net wrote:
> The true nature of America's war against Axis civilians is unimagined
> by the
> vast majority of Americans. To this day nearly sixty years after the
> war, Americans
> still think they were the "Good Guys." Tom Brokaw, an American TV
> anchorman,
> actually wrote a best-selling book entitled "The Greatest Generation.
> "
> The title referred to the perpetrators of the worst atrocities in all
> of human history.
> Shame on Brokaw and shame on America.
> 
> In 1978 I met a young Hungarian in New York City who told me about the
> American
> bombing of Budapest during the war. I had not even known that Budapest
> had been
> bombed by the Americans and I told him so. He assured me that
> Americans had, and
> that he had been there--but, then he also insisted that the bomber
> crews were extremely
> cowardly in their attacks. Rather than bomb the small but heavily
> defended military
> targets (defended with anti-aircraft guns), the American planes bombed
> the residential
> areas of Budapest instead. Some American planes were shot down and
> Hungarian gendarmes then protected the downed American crewmen from
> the wrath of the locals who wanted to simply kill the Americans on the
> spot with pitchforks and clubs if nothing else.
> He insisted that the gendarmes should not have protected the Americans
> at all; what
> they should have done instead was take the Americans to the scene of
> their crimes,
> where their bombs had actually fallen, tie them to stakes and burn
> them all alive!
> 
> I was shocked by his suggestion and I told him so. He looked straight
> into my eyes
> without blinking or hesitating and said that that was essentially what
> the Americans
> had done to them.
> 
> I have thought about that conversation many times over the years and
> that young
> Hungarian's horrible proposal. An eye for an eye--and a tooth for a
> tooth. Why
> not? I know that I could not have lit the fire to incinerate those
> Americans but
> then, I had not witnessed the bombing either. If I had actually seen
> the horrors
> that those happy-go-lucky Americans had wrought, I might have behaved
> differently.
> 
> In hindsight today after all I have learned about the war, my feelings
> have changed.
> The bomber crews were generally nothing more than ignorant slobs
> carrying out their
> orders--but, the high ranking generals and political leaders were
> something else.
> Those generals and leaders should have been burned at the stake.
> Eisenhower, LeMay,
> "Bomber" Harris, Truman, Churchill, and so many more deserved to be
> burned
> alive at a stake. That would have been an educational experience for
> them--and a
> valuable lesson for future generations of their ilk. That would have
> been a valuable
> lesson which might help prevent the far, far greater disaster which
> awaits us all
> if we as a species do not come to our senses about the glories and
> "greatness'
> of modern war.
> 
> Today Americans are surprised that so many Iraqis are so eager to kill
> them--even
> when it means that they, the Iraqis, will themselves die in the
> process. The Americans
> just don't get it--and probably never will. They should get on their
> knees and
> pray there is no God.
> 
> Friedrich Paul Berg
> Learn everything at www.nazigassings.com
> The "holocaust" really is a dirty jewish hoax. The good guys were the
> Nazis--and, the real war ciminals were the western allies.
> Nazi Gassings Never Happened! Niemand wurde vergast
> 


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Ray O'Hara wrote:
> "Protagonist"  wrote in message
> news:wcmdne8ms61kbE7YnZ2dnUVZ_sKunZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Ray O'Hara wrote:
>>> "5,999,999"  wrote in message
>>> news:1171502393.901903.148810@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
>>>> These days, World War II is often called the "good war" [1]. In other
>>>> words, it's said that the war was necessary in order to stop fascism,
>>>> even though many people died in that conflict. [By the way, just for
>>>> the historical record, please recall that Britain and America decided
>>>> upon going to war with Germany and Japan early on. Both countries "set
>>>> the stage" for war long before war actually occurred].
>>>  funny how japan and germany started the war then isn't it.
>>>
>>>
>> You are talking about shooting war.
>> Economical war started way earlier, by powerful Jews and Western Allies
>> against Germany and Japan.
>> See, US oil embargo against Japan or the Jewish war declaration against
>> Germany in 1933, for example!
>> Same pattern can be observed against Iran today, that is why for Iran
>> going nuclear is most important, for deterrence.
>> JS
> 
>  the embargo against japan was a response to japanese expansionism in
> manchuria .

Wrong!
Japan occupied Manchuria in 1931, oil embargo was declared in 1941.
 >>To understand why Japan lashed out, we must go back to World War I. 
Japan had been our ally. But when she tried to collect her share of the 
booty at Versailles, she ran into an obdurate Woodrow Wilson.
Wilson rejected Japan's claim to German concessions in Shantung, home of 
Confucius, which Japan had captured at a price in blood. Tokyo 
threatened a walkout if denied what she had been promised by the 
British. "They are not bluffing," warned Wilson, as he capitulated. "We 
gave them what they should not have."
In 1921, at the Washington Naval Conference, the United States pressured 
the British to end their 20-year alliance with Japan. By appeasing the 
Americans, the British enraged and alienated a proud nation that had 
been a loyal friend.
Japan was now isolated, with Stalin's brooding empire to the north, a 
rising China to the east and, to the south, Western imperial powers that 
detested and distrusted her.
When civil war broke out in China, Japan in 1931 occupied Manchuria as a 
buffer state. This was the way the Europeans had collected their 
empires. Yet, the West was "shocked, shocked" that Japan would embark 
upon a course of "aggression." Said one Japanese diplomat, "Just when we 
learn how to play poker, they change the game to bridge." <<

> "the jews" declaring war on germany is pure tinfoil hatism.

Really?  You take it too lightly! Hitler just came into power and 2 
months later Jews declared economical war on Germany!
Jews boycotted and pulled German products from every Jew owned stores 
world wide, Germany loosing 100's of million Marks in revenues.


hitler laid out his vision in mein kampf , which was written in the 
1920s. and publish in
> 1925-26.
> hitler had his war planned well before he took power.

Really?
With what?
Germany wasn't even allowed to build a machine gun, because of the 
Versailles treaty!
JS


> 
> 


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Ray O'Hara wrote:
> "Protagonist"  wrote in message
> news:Aa-dnQOVoeILYk7YnZ2dnUVZ_q6vnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Ray O'Hara wrote:
>>> "Protagonist"  wrote in message
>>> news:wcmdne8ms61kbE7YnZ2dnUVZ_sKunZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>> Ray O'Hara wrote:
>>>>> "5,999,999"  wrote in message
>>>>> news:1171502393.901903.148810@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>> These days, World War II is often called the "good war" [1]. In other
>>>>>> words, it's said that the war was necessary in order to stop fascism,
>>>>>> even though many people died in that conflict. [By the way, just for
>>>>>> the historical record, please recall that Britain and America decided
>>>>>> upon going to war with Germany and Japan early on. Both countries
> "set
>>>>>> the stage" for war long before war actually occurred].
>>>>>  funny how japan and germany started the war then isn't it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> You are talking about shooting war.
>>>> Economical war started way earlier, by powerful Jews and Western Allies
>>>> against Germany and Japan.
>>>> See, US oil embargo against Japan or the Jewish war declaration against
>>>> Germany in 1933, for example!
>>>> Same pattern can be observed against Iran today, that is why for Iran
>>>> going nuclear is most important, for deterrence.
>>>> JS
>>>  the embargo against japan was a response to japanese expansionism in
>>> manchuria .
>> Wrong!
>> Japan occupied Manchuria in 1931, oil embargo was declared in 1941.
>>  >>To understand why Japan lashed out, we must go back to World War I.
>> Japan had been our ally. But when she tried to collect her share of the
>> booty at Versailles, she ran into an obdurate Woodrow Wilson.
>> Wilson rejected Japan's claim to German concessions in Shantung, home of
>> Confucius, which Japan had captured at a price in blood. Tokyo
>> threatened a walkout if denied what she had been promised by the
>> British. "They are not bluffing," warned Wilson, as he capitulated. "We
>> gave them what they should not have."
>> In 1921, at the Washington Naval Conference, the United States pressured
>> the British to end their 20-year alliance with Japan. By appeasing the
>> Americans, the British enraged and alienated a proud nation that had
>> been a loyal friend.
>> Japan was now isolated, with Stalin's brooding empire to the north, a
>> rising China to the east and, to the south, Western imperial powers that
>> detested and distrusted her.
>> When civil war broke out in China, Japan in 1931 occupied Manchuria as a
>> buffer state. This was the way the Europeans had collected their
>> empires. Yet, the West was "shocked, shocked" that Japan would embark
>> upon a course of "aggression." Said one Japanese diplomat, "Just when we
>> learn how to play poker, they change the game to bridge." <<
>>
>>> "the jews" declaring war on germany is pure tinfoil hatism.
>> Really?  You take it too lightly! Hitler just came into power and 2
>> months later Jews declared economical war on Germany!
>> Jews boycotted and pulled German products from every Jew owned stores
>> world wide, Germany loosing 100's of million Marks in revenues.
> 
> and japan was attacking in chia through the 1930s. the rape of nanking was
> in 1938. japan had no right to attack china, it wasn't guaranteed war booty.
> it was pure aggressive expansionism. china was not one of the central powers
> in WWI.
> japan added nothing to the allies war effort in WWI a few ships patrolling
> in the pacific doesn't get you much of a reward.  they sent nobody to
> actually fight.
> 
> they thought they could steal an empire and overplayed their hand.
> 
>  japan and germany caused the war and they got their just reward. a total
> ass kicking and 50 years of occupation.

Wrong! Wrong! Wrong! Wrong!

They were pushed into WW2!
It's like saying, Iraq caused the Golf war!
JS




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That's what Jews do by promoting the Holohoax!
JS


Ag wrote:
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-777713002681041859
> 
> 
> http://www.tribuneindia.com/2002/20020215/wld3.jpg
> 
> The movie Judgement Exposes the Phony 'Death Camp' Pictures that
> Fooled the World
> 
> In August 1992, millions of people were shocked by photographs of a
> supposed Bosnian Serb death camp.
> 
> The photos were produced by ITN, the British TV news giant, from
> footage shot by their film crew, which had spent a long day in Bosnia.
> 
> Most of the photographs featured a tall, thin man with a deformed
> chest, stripped to the waist, apparently imprisoned behind barbed
> wire. You might have seen those pictures.
> 
> They were staged and doctored: a hoax. This is proved in the Emperor's
> Clothes movie, 'JUDGMENT!'
> 
> To start with, the barbed wire was staged. The ITN film crew went
> inside a storage area surrounded by a chicken wire/barbed wire fence.
> They filmed from *inside* that enclosure-through the barbed wire-and
> in that way created the false impression that they were filming people
> imprisoned behind barbed wire. And that was only their first cute
> trick. Step by step, 'JUDGMENT!' will show you exactly how the phony
> pictures were created.
> 
> The phony pictures were broadcast worldwide starting on August 6th.
> Twenty minutes after they were shown on US Television...
> 
> On 6 August 1992 just *20 minutes* after the pictures were broadcast,
> George Bush, Sr. held a press conference at a Colorado Air Base:
> 
> "Reports say that 20 minutes after the ITN footage was shown in the
> United States, President George Bush changed his hands-off policy and
> promised to 'press hard for quick passage' of a UN Security Council
> resolution authorising the use of force in the Balkans."
> 
> http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/62/313.html
> 
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-777713002681041859
> 


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Uh! Some one touched a Jew with the little finger, now he has to go to jail!
JS


SAN FRANCISCO - A man accused of roughing up Nobel laureate and 
Holocaust scholar Elie Wiesel at a San Francisco hotel earlier this 
month was arrested Saturday, authorities said.
ADVERTISEMENT

Montgomery Township police arrested Eric Hunt, 22, of Sussex County, 
N.J., at 1:30 p.m. EST Saturday. He faces charges that include attempted 
kidnapping, false imprisonment, elder abuse, stalking, battery and the 
commission of a hate crime, according to San Francisco police.

He was being held without bail in the Somerset County Jail in New 
Jersey, awaiting extradition to San Francisco.

Wiesel, 78, was a featured speaker at a Feb. 1 peace forum at the Argent 
Hotel in San Francisco. He was approached in the lobby by a white man in 
his 20s who asked for an interview, police said.

Authorities said Wiesel agreed to talk in the lobby, but the man 
insisted the interview be conducted in a hotel room, and got into the 
elevator with Wiesel. Once on the sixth floor, the suspect dragged 
Wiesel from the elevator, police said.

Wiesel began yelling, and the suspect ran away down the elevator, police 
said.

Police have said they were aware that a man claimed responsibility for 
the attack in a posting on an anti-Semitic Web site registered in 
Australia. Police have not commented further on the case.

San Francisco police Lt. Dan Mahoney said he doesn't believe Hunt 
belonged to a larger organization.

"He is a lone wolf and not part of an organization or group," he said.

Wiesel couldn't immediately be reached for comment Saturday at Boston 
University, where he teaches, or through his institute in New York. 
Police in New Jersey and San Francisco said they did not know if Hunt 
had retained an attorney.

Wiesel, who survived the Nazi death camps at Auschwitz and Buchenwald 
during World War II, has worked for human rights in many parts of the 
world and was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 1986.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070218/ap_on_re_us/wiesel_accosted


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vkarlamov@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Feb 17, 1:04 am, "Ag"  wrote:
>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-777713002681041859
>>
>> http://www.tribuneindia.com/2002/20020215/wld3.jpg
>>
>> The movie Judgement Exposes the Phony 'Death Camp' Pictures that
>> Fooled the World
>>
>> In August 1992, millions of people were shocked by photographs of a
>> supposed Bosnian Serb death camp.
>>
>> The photos were produced by ITN, the British TV news giant, from
>> footage shot by their film crew, which had spent a long day in Bosnia.
>>
>> Most of the photographs featured a tall, thin man with a deformed
>> chest, stripped to the waist, apparently imprisoned behind barbed
>> wire. You might have seen those pictures.
>>
>> They were staged and doctored: a hoax. This is proved in the Emperor's
>> Clothes movie, 'JUDGMENT!'
>>
>> To start with, the barbed wire was staged. The ITN film crew went
>> inside a storage area surrounded by a chicken wire/barbed wire fence.
>> They filmed from *inside* that enclosure-through the barbed wire-and
>> in that way created the false impression that they were filming people
>> imprisoned behind barbed wire. And that was only their first cute
>> trick. Step by step, 'JUDGMENT!' will show you exactly how the phony
>> pictures were created.
>>
>> The phony pictures were broadcast worldwide starting on August 6th.
>> Twenty minutes after they were shown on US Television...
>>
>> On 6 August 1992 just *20 minutes* after the pictures were broadcast,
>> George Bush, Sr. held a press conference at a Colorado Air Base:
>>
>> "Reports say that 20 minutes after the ITN footage was shown in the
>> United States, President George Bush changed his hands-off policy and
>> promised to 'press hard for quick passage' of a UN Security Council
>> resolution authorising the use of force in the Balkans."
>>
>> http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/62/313.html
>>
>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-777713002681041859
>>
> 
> I wonder what makes such jourrnalists commit such atrocious
> forgeries.
> 

Very simple!
Money!
JS


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Curly C wrote:
> It was probably Jacobson just getting a little excited wanting the
> Weasel to sign a copy of one of his books.

..or McVay, spying around Wiesel, trying to get more lies for his Nizkor BS!
Wiesel probably told him: No,no old chap Zionist Mcvay, you have to pay 
me first!
Weisel patented Holohoax stories are not FREE!

JS


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Another McVay Holohoax commercials!
Yawn!!! (o:
JS


kmcvay@nizkor.org.nospam wrote:
> [Follow-ups set]
> 
> February 18
> 
> 1943
> 
> Two days after the German resistance movement, the White
> Rose, distributes underground anti-Nazi leaflets in Munich,
> the group's leaders, brother and sister Hans and Sophie
> Scholl, are arrested. They are tried, sentenced, and
> beheaded on February 22. (USHMM, 1993. Pg. 23)
> 
> The "Teheran Children," Jewish children who had fled from
> Poland to Soviet Russia at the outbreak of war in 1939 --
> only a few of them with parents -- and made their way to
> Iran via Siberia and Central Asia, arrive in British mandate
> Palestine via India.  The group entering Palestine with
> British approval includes 860 children and 360 adults. (The
> five-week long roundabout trip from Teheran via India was
> the result of Iraq's refusal to permit the group to use the
> more direct route to Palestine.) (Ibid.)
> 
> In a major address at the Berlin Sport Palace, Goebbels
> announces "total war for the defense of Europe against
> Bolshevism" and calls Jews "the root of evil in the world." (Ibid.)
> 
>                        Work Cited
> 
> USHMM (United States Holocaust Memorial Museum). Fifty
>    Years Ago: Revolt Amid the Darkness: Days of Remembrance,
>    April 18-25, 1993. Washington, D.C.: 1993


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Would like to see it, but I don't get BBC2 here!
Hope some one uploads it to YouTube!
JS


Ag wrote:
> Obsessive focus on strawman theories say individuals interviewed for
> upcoming show.
> 
>  This weekend's highly anticipated BBC documentary on the 9/11 truth
> movement is likely to be a sophisticated hit piece, according to those
> who were interviewed for the program and others wary of the motives
> behind the creators of the show.
> 
> The BBC are extensively promoting the show via commercials during peak
> time viewing and yesterday featured a reasonably balanced summary of
> the 9/11 truth movement on their website. A preview clip and an
> extended clip showing Alex Jones and Jim Marrs at Dealy Plaza were
> also released yesterday. Seemingly fair promotional material shouldn't
> suck anyone in to believing anything else than the fact that this is
> most probably going to be a severe attack on 9/11 truth.
> 
> The first program in the series that aired in December of last year
> focused on the questions surrounding the death of Princess Diana, an
> event that the overwhelming majority of the British public now believe
> was an assassination. According to many disgruntled viewers, the show
> was mostly a whitewash and toed the official line.
> 
> Other programs in the series feature investigations into the Oklahoma
> City Bombing and the death of Dr. David Kelly.
> 
> Many posters to the 9/11 Blogger site were skeptical of the show's
> balance and fear it could be one of the most sophisticated attacks on
> the 9/11 truth movement to date, using nebulous strawman tactics that
> elevate unproven theories about hologram planes, exotic weaponry and
> Jewish conspirators above hardcore evidence.
> 
> "Judging from my experience with (producer) Guy Smith, this will be a
> hit piece," stated one.
> 
> Another respondent said that Craig Bartmer, a former NYPD official who
> heard bombs bring down Building 7 as he ran from it, was interviewed
> for the show and came away with the distinct impression that its
> intention was to dismiss everything as a conspiracy theory, including
> the fact that a government cover-up was now known to have been effect
> in the very hours after the attack, when EPA officials told ground
> zero workers the toxic air was safe to breathe.
> 
> Bartmer told the BBC he thought their treatment of the subject was an
> insult to himself and the rest of the victims, but it's likely that
> the BBC will play the "insulting to the victims" card themselves,
> ignoring the fact that 20% of the ground zero rescue heroes are now
> dying as a result of an admitted government cover-up, and not due to
> any actions on behalf of "conspiracy theorists."
> 
> Another tactic is likely to be constant reference to NIST and the 9/11
> Commission in an attempt to debunk every question raised by
> "conspiracy theorists," yet both have been proven to betray wild
> conflicts of interest along with a penchant for simply ignoring or
> burying information that contradicts the official story, such as the
> Norman Minetta testimony, 9/11 wargames and Building 7.
> 
> Alex Jones, director of Terror Storm, features heavily in show after
> the BBC followed him around for a week of taping.
> 
> Commenting on his radio broadcast yesterday, Jones said "They're
> pulling out all the stops on this one, they're going to try to mix in
> anti-Semitism," adding that the producer Guy Smith wouldn't allow him
> to talk about hardcore proven evidence on camera such as Operation
> Northwoods.
> 
> "They always wanted to bring up the most tenuous evidence, they always
> wanted to argue about that," said Jones.
> 
> Jones said that upon conclusion of filming, the producer started
> laughing and proclaiming his disbelief at everything Jones had stated.
> 
> "It's going to be one mega hit piece," he concluded.
> 
> Despite the BBC's best efforts to skew the investigation process into
> areas that can't be proven and simply discredit the 9/11 truth
> movement, the organs of establishment media remain oblivious to the
> fact that 9/11 truth has reached critical mass and the tipping point
> has already passed. The only ramifications of this broadcast will be
> to reassure the myopic sheeple that their government couldn't possibly
> lie to them, while provoking enough interest in those who still have
> the capacity to think for themselves to do their own research and find
> out the truth.
> 
> The Conspiracy Files airs on BBC 2 Sunday February 18 at 9pm.
> 
> Source: Prison Planet
> http://prisonplanet.com/articles/february2007/150207bbcdocumentary.htm
> 


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ataturkey wrote:
> On Feb 18, 8:28 am, Protagonist  wrote:
>> Curly C wrote:
>>> It was probably Jacobson just getting a little excited wanting the
>>> Weasel to sign a copy of one of his books.
>> ..or McVay, spying around Wiesel, trying to get more lies for his Nizkor BS!
>> Wiesel probably told him: No,no old chap Zionist Mcvay, you have to pay
>> me first!
>> Weisel patented Holohoax stories are not FREE!
> 
> Not sure if I agree with you on a whole lot of things but I have to
> give you one thing, you are a funny dude and its counts for something.
> Do you really think that is what Weasel said to my very good friend
> McVay?
> 
> Have a nice vegetarian day!
> 
> 
> 

Oh, I'm sure!
Cleaver McVay, sneaking around here on AR, ran out of copy/past stuff 
for his Nizkor website, so his attacking Weisel for Holohoax stuff for 
his site.
You know, the old Holohoax lines don't sit any more, like Jew soap, 
killing electric conveyor belts, Zyklon-B killing 20 thousand people in 
15 minuts etc...
McVay is surfing for new Holocau$t lines, so he can get Spielberg's 
attention, which means big contract, big money for McVay, from  juicy 
Jew suffering Hollywood movie.
JS







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Sara Salzman wrote:
> In article <1171777475.362518.226760@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
>  "ataturkey"  wrote:
> 
>> It is not nice to cross-post paid Zionist hate propaganda spam and
>> direct follow-ups to alt.revisionism only. Some people might get the
>> idea that a tricky guy like you should not be trusted and your paid
>> Zionist hate propaganda should not be believed.
>>
>> Have a nice vegetarian day!
> 
> It's not nice to lie about people. You have been told thousands of times 
> that Ken McVay isn't paid by anyone, 

Your post is a lie, since every one is paid by some one!
You just playing with words, meaning, donations is not equal to be payed.
I'm sure McVay not using his own money to maintain his Zionist 
propaganda website!?
His getting payed by Jewish/Zionist groups to maintain his Zionist 
propaganda website about the Holohoax.
Have a nice Holohoax day!
JS

and you have never produced a
> scintilla of proof of your accusations.
> 
> Have an honest day for once.
> 


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Roger wrote:
> In one age, called the Second Age by some,
>    (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
>       someone claiming to be Protagonist wrote
>          in message : 
> 
>> Sara Salzman wrote:
> 
>>>> It is not nice to cross-post paid Zionist hate propaganda spam and
>>>> direct follow-ups to alt.revisionism only. Some people might get the
>>>> idea that a tricky guy like you should not be trusted and your paid
>>>> Zionist hate propaganda should not be believed.
> 
>>> It's not nice to lie about people. You have been told thousands of times 
>>> that Ken McVay isn't paid by anyone, 
> 
>> Your post is a lie, since every one is paid by some one!
> 
> Really?  Who pays the Dalai Lama?
Dalai Lama is about faith, don't spread Zionist propaganda and lies!
Like any church, lives off from donations and here in the US it's tax 
deductible for induviduals.

> 
>> You just playing with words, meaning, donations is not equal to be payed.
>> I'm sure McVay not using his own money to maintain his Zionist 
>> propaganda website!?
>> His getting payed by Jewish/Zionist groups to maintain his Zionist 
>> propaganda website about the Holohoax.
> 
> And you can prove this?

For me don't need proof!
I KNOW!!!!!
Idiots like you, all ways need an approval stamp.
JS

> 
>>> and you have never produced a
>>> scintilla of proof of your accusations.
>>>
>>> Have an honest day for once.


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Roger wrote:
> In one age, called the Second Age by some,
>    (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
>       someone claiming to be Protagonist wrote
>          in message : 
>   
>> Uh! Some one touched a Jew with the little finger, now he has to go to jail!
> 
> This person did quite a bit more than "touch" Weisel.
> 
> But then, you make excuses for murder, so making excuses for attempted
> kidnapping must seem a vacation for you...

You just twisting things around the Zionist way!
JS



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Roger wrote:
> In one age, called the Second Age by some,
>    (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
>       someone claiming to be Protagonist wrote
>          in message <_d6dnfnc4q2TQUTYnZ2dnUVZ_rbinZ2d@comcast.com>: 
> 
>> Roger wrote:
> 
>>>> Uh! Some one touched a Jew with the little finger, now he has to go to jail!
> 
>>> This person did quite a bit more than "touch" Weisel.
>>>
>>> But then, you make excuses for murder, so making excuses for attempted
>>> kidnapping must seem a vacation for you...
> 
>> You just twisting things around the Zionist way!
> 
> No, just pointing out your fundamental dishonesty and sociopathic need
> to excuse crimes committed against those you do not like.

"crimes committed against" - You mean Da Germans?
JS




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Of course, dumb ass McVay don't realizes the facts, Jews don't have to 
appeal for money to the public, because the Zionist just extort money in 
the  billions the last 60 years. So, they have plenty money now, even to 
keep a modern army in the Middle-East.
Also, some of the billions are used to expend the Holohoax empire by 
forcing countries all over the world to build Holohoax museums to keep 
Zionist lies alive and cash in more.
No Holohoax museum, no loan from the World bank, run and owned by the 
Jews. Country is black listed!
JS


Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:
> In article ,
> Kurt Knoll  wrote:
>> So what is it you are trying to proof Kenneth. The holocaust industries is 
>> affiliated with many holohoax writer and you people are certaily no angels. 
>> So Zundel admits as a young person he was interest science fiction and so 
>> are many others till today. Kosher I would not consider you writings. It 
>> sounds more you are a master manipulators.
> 
> Translated from Leading Revisionist Scholarese, this reads, "I would prefer not to
> discuss Ernst Zundel's multi-million dollar Holocaust industry, so will pretend you are
> Joosh instead."
> 
> http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/p/prutschi-manuel/zundel-affair/za-06.html
> 
> Propaganda Techniques and Activities
> 
> Most of Zündel's material takes the form of circulars, leaflets and letters, including
> letters to the editor: occasionally, he also issues questionnaires. Some of his
> organizations have distinctive letterheads, e.g., Concerned Parents of German Descent,
> which features a pre-adolescent blonde girl against a dark background, curled up, fragile
> and fearful, with a teardrop descending from each eye. The pathos-inspiring caption
> underneath reads, "HELP US." The German-Jewish Historical Commission sports an imperial
> eagle in the top left comer and a Star of David on the right. 
> 
> Zündel's style is also distinctive: a tightly packed text, sometimes with press
> clippings and commentaries appended. His mail-order operation purveys books, pamphlets,
> tapes, video cassettes, films, records and art. There are homemade audio-visual
> productions. as well as tapes of media interviews in which the self-appointed defender of
> Germany's honour is the star attraction. Fantasy in space, as well as fantasy in history,
> is included, with such titles as "UFO'S - Nazi Secret Weapon?" or "Little Known UFO
> Sightings from Around the World." 
> 
> The catalogue also shows that Samisdat serves as a clearing-house for Holocaust denial
> publications from all over the world. Authors represented are the Americans, Arthur Butz,
> with his The Hoax of the Twentieth Century, and Austin J. App, with his The Six Million
> Swindle; the Briton Richard Harwood, with his pamphlet Did Six Million Really Die?; the
> Germans, Udo Walendy, with (among other titles) Truth for Germany: The Guilt Question of
> the Second World War and Thies Christophersen, with his Auschwitz: Truth or Lie; the
> Frenchman Robert Faurisson, with his taped presentation ("in slide show form") on the
> "fraudulent character of the gas chambers"; and the Swede Ditlieb Felderer on videotape
> with The Anne Frank Diary Hoax. For US$10, one can obtain South Africa Today, in which
> life in the last white bastion in Africa is described as it "really is."[61] 
> 
> A great deal of Nazi material can be ordered, especially tapes of Hitler's speeches with
> a "simultaneous English-language translation." One can hear "the man whose voice captured
> the hearts and minds of millions of enthusiastic supporters." Other Nazi offerings
> include the movie Triumph of the Will, which is advertised as "The Third Reich's Version
> of the Woodstock Festival." For only $10, one can purchase Hitler Declares War on Poland
> or Hitler Declares War on America; one can also purchase "Hitler's sad but powerfully
> prophetic final broadcast from Berlin on January 1, 1945." Besides Nazi speeches, the
> Music of the Third Reich can be obtained, offering "old favourites" like the "Horst
> Wessel Lied," and the "Badenweiler March," described as "Hitler's favourite." 
> 
> One can further assuage one's penchant for Nazi melodies with "Black shirt and Brown
> shirt Stormtrooper Songs and Marches." Art is also available; the Nazi aficionado can
> obtain for two dollars "large, beautiful illustrations of Nazi Secret Weapons suitable
> for framing." Devising a symbol based on the old runic form of the letter "Z," the
> ingenious artist-entrepreneur has marketed his own creation as "Thor's Warrior Belt
> Buckle," which comes with an "embossed Lightning Bolt of Thor," and the "Amulet of Thor,"
> depicting "Thor's Lightning Bolt within the Sacred Sun Symbol." In both cases, the
> lightning bolt is the letter "Z." 
> 
> [...]
> 
> Outside of North America, West Germany constitutes his principal target, where (as in
> Canada) his mass mailings are aimed at parliamentarians. In December 1983, he sent the
> book "Allied War Crimes" to all members of the West German parliament, acquiring in his
> homeland an ideologically sympathetic clientele for his mail order business. In December
> 1980, the Parliamentary Secretary of State for the Federal Ministry of Finance announced
> in the Bundestag that. between January 1, 1978 and December 30, 1979, "200 shipments of a
> right wing extremist and neo-Nazi content...books, periodicals, symbols, decorations,
> films, cassettes, records...came overwhelmingly from Canada."[65] He added that, as a
> result of similar shipments during the first half of 1980, prosecutions were being
> considered. 
> 
> 
> On April 23, 1981, in a letter to the Canadian Jewish Congress, an official of the
> Ministry of Finance in Bonn identified the source of these materials as "Samisdat
> Publishers, 206 Carlton Street, Toronto, Ontario, Canada M5A 2L1."[66] A story on Simon
> Wiesenthal in the New York Times Magazine of May 3, 1981, provides a particularly telling
> example of how Zündel's mailings filter through German society and beyond. A Dutch
> tourist, vacationing in Upper Austria, was supplied with antisemitic material by a gas
> station attendant, who, in turn, had obtained the writings from a friend who was a
> Samisdat subscriber.[67] 
> 
> Canada, the United States, Germany and Europe do not comprise the limits of Zündel's
> reach: Australia is also within his orbit, as is the Middle East. In the summer of 1981,
> 400 tapes in the Arabic language apparently were shipped to opinion-makers in Arab
> lands.[68] Zündel's claim to be in touch with people in 45 to 47 countries in at least
> 14 different languages is not impossible: an impressive operation indeed! This propaganda
> mill is by no means an altruistic enterprise. While much of the material is mailed
> unsolicited, much of it, together with his vast mail order enterprise, generates funds.
> Police sources estimate that a steady income ranging between $60000-100000 per annum
> comes from his empire. 
> 
> Moreover, he has frequently appealed directly for money. A report of the West German
> Ministry of the Interior reveals that, in one fund-raising campaign in 1980, Zündel
> raised close to 100000 German marks (the equivalent of $50000).[69] Even this estimate
> may be too modest. In one of his own publications in 1981, he pooh-poohed the German
> magazine Der Spiegel for guessing that his total annual budget amounted to 100000 marks,
> countering indignantly that "Samisdat has long ago exceeded the figure...for no
> organization that spans the world and reaches forty-five countries can manage with so low
> a budget."[70] 
> 


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Here we go, Jews at work again!
Pay attantion to this remark!
"Israel said that Anne Frank "has come to represent the 1.5 million 
Jewish children killed during the Holocaust that were denied the chance 
to leave a lasting mark on the world."

They forget the other 10 million chilldren died in WW2, I guess!
Only THEM, Da Jew is important!
JS


http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070226/en_afp/afpentertainmentbooks_070226192344

NEW YORK (AFP) - A US lawmaker has submitted a bill seeking honorary 
citizenship for Anne Frank, whose family sought in vain to secure refuge 
in the United States during World War II, his office said Monday.
ADVERTISEMENT

The draft legislation, which has not drawn a great deal of enthusiasm 
>from the family, was presented by Long Island, New York Democrat Steve
Israel.

The lawmaker drafted a bill along the same lines in 2005 but reworked it 
after seeing the publication in New York of letters written by Anne 
Frank's father, Otto Frank, detailing his efforts in 1941 to take his 
family to the United States.

"The best way we can honor Anne Frank in death is to give her what her 
father sought for her in life," Israel said.

"News that Anne Frank's family sought to flee to the United States makes 
it clearer than ever that we should bestow honorary citizenship upon 
Anne Frank, who has been recognized as a great hero and source of 
inspiration for the children of this nation."

Israel said that Anne Frank "has come to represent the 1.5 million 
Jewish children killed during the Holocaust that were denied the chance 
to leave a lasting mark on the world. For the many readers of her diary, 
Anne Frank is a symbol of bravery and hope and is a personal link to the 
heartbreaking tragedy of the Holocaust."

Anne Frank chronicled the details of her teenage life hiding from the 
Nazis in Amsterdam from 1942 until 1944, when she was arrested and 
transported to a concentration camp, where she later died.

Bernd Elias, a German cousin of Anne Frank, living in Switzerland told 
The New York Times: "I cannot see the point. She saw herself as Dutch."

Another cousin living in San Diego, Edith Gordon, said: "It doesn't seem 
right to me somehow, when we didn't let her into the country."



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