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Report: Israeli planes buzz German ships

Oct. 30, 2006 at 11:32AM

Israeli planes reportedly have buzzed German ships patrolling Lebanon 
waters against weapons being smuggled to Hezbollah militants.
       Germany's Der Spiegel reports that the incidents last week have 
provoked questions in German parliament. It says the parliament has also 
found the German mission to Lebanon has fewer rights than promised earlier.
       Germany's Defense Minister Franz Josef Jung is to visit Israel 
and Lebanon this week and Der Spiegel said he will insist on a detailed 
explanation from Israel on why its fighter jets buzzed a German ship and 
why a German naval helicopter was approached by Israeli jets.
       During his Lebanon visit, Jung is expected to ask for explanation 
about that country's wish to limit the activities of the German-led U.N. 
naval mission.
       "This is exactly the sort of incident which I have always said 
would happen and which the government said was impossible," said Guido 
Westerwelle, head of Germany's opposition Liberals party.
       In Israel, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said he regretted the 
incident and assured a delegation of leading German conservatives in 
Jerusalem that it would not happen again.

http://www.washtimes.com/upi/20061030-105309-9500r.htm


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http://www.world-mysteries.com/doug_titanic1.htm

 >>There were a number of powerful men who were NOT in favor of the 
Federal Reserve System. Benjamin Guggenheim, Isa Strauss and John Jacob 
Astor opposed the formation of a F.R.S. These men were arguably the 
richest men in the world and stood in the way of the Jesuits' plan. 
'These three men were coaxed and encouraged to board the floating 
palace.' Not only were these enemies of the Jesuits against a Federal 
Reserve Bank, but they would have used their wealth and influence to 
oppose World War I.<<


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Protagonist wrote:
> http://www.world-mysteries.com/doug_titanic1.htm
> 
>  >>There were a number of powerful men who were NOT in favor of the 
> Federal Reserve System. Benjamin Guggenheim, Isa Strauss and John Jacob 
> Astor opposed the formation of a F.R.S. These men were arguably the 
> richest men in the world and stood in the way of the Jesuits' plan. 
> 'These three men were coaxed and encouraged to board the floating 
> palace.' Not only were these enemies of the Jesuits against a Federal 
> Reserve Bank, but they would have used their wealth and influence to 
> oppose World War I.<<

Captain gave a full steam ahead when the iceberg came into sight.
Haha!

That's how they killed 3 flies in one swing , by sinking the boat.
It was an accident!!!!!!!!! (o:
JS


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MUST BE TRUE!!!!!!!
Haha!
JS



Roger wrote:
> In one age, called the Second Age by some,
>    (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
>       someone claiming to be 127.0.0.1 wrote
>          in message <1671799.INRGi1hAgL@OpenBSD>: 
>   
>> http://judicial-inc.biz/pics/paage_1.jpg
>> http://judicial-inc.biz/pics/paarrge_2.jpg
> 
> Nope, neither of those are Red Cross documents.
> 
> But *here* are some:
> 
> http://www.icrc.org/Web/Eng/siteeng0.nsf/iwpList418/359CC4EF8A1E5C72C...
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/m9q67 
> 
>    
> 
> In December 1939, the President of the International Committee of the 
> Red Cross (ICRC) approached the German Red Cross to arrange for ICRC 
> delegates to visit the Jews from Vienna who had been deported to 
> Poland. He met with a refusal, as the German authorities did not under
> any circumstances want to enter into a discussion on the fate of these
> people. 
> 
>     
> 
> Here it is slowly -- sorry I can't put bright pictures in for you: 
> 
> H e   m e t   w i t h   a   r e f  u s a l ,    a s   t h e   
> G e r m a n   a u t h o r i t i e s   d i d   n o t   u n d e r   
> a n y   c i r c u m s t a n c e s   w a n t   t o   e n t e r   
> i n t o   a   d i s c u s s i o n   o n   t h e   f a t e   o f   
> t h e s e   p e o p l e . 
> 
> Same source: 
> 
>    
> 
> On 23 June 1944, an ICRC delegate, Dr. Maurice Rossel, went to 
> Theresienstadt. His visit was carefully orchestrated. He walked 
> through the ghetto under the escort of SS officers, but he did not 
> have the opportunity to talk with the Jewish people there, nor to get 
> inside the fortress. Two representatives of the Danish government also
> took part in the visit. 
> 
> On 27 September 1944, Dr Rossel went to Auschwitz. There he spoke to 
> the commander of the camp, but he was not authorized to go inside it. 
> 
>    
> 
> Again, slowly: 
> 
> .. . .   h e   w a s   n o t   a u t h o r i z e d   t o   g o   
> i n s i d e   i t . 
> 
> Same source: 
> 
>    
> 
> By taking part in the 1995 ceremony to commemorate the liberation of 
> the Auschwitz camp, the President of the International Committee of 
> the Red Cross, Cornelio Sommaruga, sought to show that the 
> organization was fully aware of the gravity of the Holocaust and the 
> need to keep the memory of it alive, so as to prevent any repetition 
> of it. He paid tribute to all those who had suffered or lost their 
> lives during the war and publicly regretted the past mistakes and 
> shortcomings of the Red Cross with regard to the victims of the 
> concentration camps. 
> 
>    
> 
> And of course, the *actual* ICRC report of their activities during
> WWII is very clear about the Nazis. For instance, Vol. 1, page 641
> states that the Jews were: 
> 
>    
> 
> outcasts condemned by rigid racial legislation to suffer tyranny, 
> persecution, and systematic extermination. 
> 
>    
> 
> Did you catch that?  I'll type it slow for you -- it'll help if you
> learn not to move your lips as you read: 
> 
> o u t c a s t s   c o n d e m n e d   . . .   t o   s u f f e r   
> .. . .   s y s t e m a t i c   e x t e r m i n a t i o n . 
> 
> It goes on to say 
> 
>    
> 
> they were penned into concentration camps and ghettos, recruited for 
> forced labor, subjected to grave brutalities and sent to death camps. 
> 
>    
> 
> Lemme get that one for you, too: 
> 
> s e n t   t o   d e a t h   c a m p s . 
> 
> Or how about: 
> 
>    
> 
> During the period in September 1940, when the 'Iron Guard' supported 
> by the Gestapo and the German SS had seized power, the Jews had been 
> subjected to persecution and deported to death camps. 
> 
>    
> 
> d e p o r t e d   t o   d e a t h   c a m p s . 
> 
> Finally, from Vol. 2 page 514: 
> 
>    
> 
> In Germany and her satellite countries, the lot of the civilians 
> belonging to this group was by far the worst. Subjected as they were 
> to a discriminatory regime, which aimed more or less openly at their 
> extermination, they were unable to procure the necessities of life". 
> 
>    
> 
> w h i c h   a i m e d   m o r e   o r   l e s s   o p e n l y   a t 
> t h e i r  e x t e r m i n a t i o n .
> 
> So why did you lie about them having full access to all areas of all
> camps?


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I assume, ICRC tried to prevent the 4 million death at Auschwitz also?
Sorry, 3.5 million, ....no sorry 1.5 million ..oops sorry 1.1 million...?
..or maybe no one died there at all, eh?
JS


Roger wrote:
> In one age, called the Second Age by some,
>    (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
>       someone claiming to be 127.0.0.1 wrote
>          in message <1671799.INRGi1hAgL@OpenBSD>: 
>   
>> http://judicial-inc.biz/pics/paage_1.jpg
>> http://judicial-inc.biz/pics/paarrge_2.jpg
> 
> Nope, neither of those are Red Cross documents.
> 
> But *here* are some:
> 
> http://www.icrc.org/Web/Eng/siteeng0.nsf/iwpList418/359CC4EF8A1E5C72C...
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/m9q67 
> 
>    
> 
> In December 1939, the President of the International Committee of the 
> Red Cross (ICRC) approached the German Red Cross to arrange for ICRC 
> delegates to visit the Jews from Vienna who had been deported to 
> Poland. He met with a refusal, as the German authorities did not under
> any circumstances want to enter into a discussion on the fate of these
> people. 
> 
>     
> 
> Here it is slowly -- sorry I can't put bright pictures in for you: 
> 
> H e   m e t   w i t h   a   r e f  u s a l ,    a s   t h e   
> G e r m a n   a u t h o r i t i e s   d i d   n o t   u n d e r   
> a n y   c i r c u m s t a n c e s   w a n t   t o   e n t e r   
> i n t o   a   d i s c u s s i o n   o n   t h e   f a t e   o f   
> t h e s e   p e o p l e . 
> 
> Same source: 
> 
>    
> 
> On 23 June 1944, an ICRC delegate, Dr. Maurice Rossel, went to 
> Theresienstadt. His visit was carefully orchestrated. He walked 
> through the ghetto under the escort of SS officers, but he did not 
> have the opportunity to talk with the Jewish people there, nor to get 
> inside the fortress. Two representatives of the Danish government also
> took part in the visit. 
> 
> On 27 September 1944, Dr Rossel went to Auschwitz. There he spoke to 
> the commander of the camp, but he was not authorized to go inside it. 
> 
>    
> 
> Again, slowly: 
> 
> .. . .   h e   w a s   n o t   a u t h o r i z e d   t o   g o   
> i n s i d e   i t . 
> 
> Same source: 
> 
>    
> 
> By taking part in the 1995 ceremony to commemorate the liberation of 
> the Auschwitz camp, the President of the International Committee of 
> the Red Cross, Cornelio Sommaruga, sought to show that the 
> organization was fully aware of the gravity of the Holocaust and the 
> need to keep the memory of it alive, so as to prevent any repetition 
> of it. He paid tribute to all those who had suffered or lost their 
> lives during the war and publicly regretted the past mistakes and 
> shortcomings of the Red Cross with regard to the victims of the 
> concentration camps. 
> 
>    
> 
> And of course, the *actual* ICRC report of their activities during
> WWII is very clear about the Nazis. For instance, Vol. 1, page 641
> states that the Jews were: 
> 
>    
> 
> outcasts condemned by rigid racial legislation to suffer tyranny, 
> persecution, and systematic extermination. 
> 
>    
> 
> Did you catch that?  I'll type it slow for you -- it'll help if you
> learn not to move your lips as you read: 
> 
> o u t c a s t s   c o n d e m n e d   . . .   t o   s u f f e r   
> .. . .   s y s t e m a t i c   e x t e r m i n a t i o n . 
> 
> It goes on to say 
> 
>    
> 
> they were penned into concentration camps and ghettos, recruited for 
> forced labor, subjected to grave brutalities and sent to death camps. 
> 
>    
> 
> Lemme get that one for you, too: 
> 
> s e n t   t o   d e a t h   c a m p s . 
> 
> Or how about: 
> 
>    
> 
> During the period in September 1940, when the 'Iron Guard' supported 
> by the Gestapo and the German SS had seized power, the Jews had been 
> subjected to persecution and deported to death camps. 
> 
>    
> 
> d e p o r t e d   t o   d e a t h   c a m p s . 
> 
> Finally, from Vol. 2 page 514: 
> 
>    
> 
> In Germany and her satellite countries, the lot of the civilians 
> belonging to this group was by far the worst. Subjected as they were 
> to a discriminatory regime, which aimed more or less openly at their 
> extermination, they were unable to procure the necessities of life". 
> 
>    
> 
> w h i c h   a i m e d   m o r e   o r   l e s s   o p e n l y   a t 
> t h e i r  e x t e r m i n a t i o n .
> 
> So why did you lie about them having full access to all areas of all
> camps?


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philipmathews@comcast.net wrote:
> "Karl Striedieck"  wrote in message 
> news:8c0fb$4558fc92$94416f5e$29342@STARBAND.NET...
>> Having been an interested observer since the mid 80's of the "Great 
>> Debate" I must have heard most the angles the two sides have used to 
>> make a case for or against the so-called "Holocaust." Since there 
>> are numerous opinions of what the big "H" really was, the boundaries 
>> I use are genocide, six million and homicidal gas chambers at 
>> Auschwitz (Birkenau).
> 
> There are not numerous opinions. Deniers like to pretend there are.
> 
>> It appears to me that revisionists have a stronger case with regard 
>> to the three Big H items mentioned,
> 
> You mean deniers, and just how is it that this small band of Jew 
> haters were able to refute a history proven by historians?
> 
> Perhaps you can enlighten us.
> 
>> but one I've never heard relates to photo evidence, or lack thereof. 
>> The photos I'm thinking of would be of the so-called "gas chambers" 
>> in action at Auschwitz (Birkenau) or as they were being evacuated.
> 
> And why would the Nazis take photos of that?
> 
>> There exist hundreds of photos and movies of every aspect of life at 
>> Auschwitz (Birkenau) both from German sources and those smuggled out 
>> by the Polish underground.
> 
> No, this is not true. There is a great deal about Auschwitz life not 
> captured, or capturable in this way.
> 
>  >There is no shortage of  film of the rail line going
>> under the "Arbeit Macht Frei" sign at the entrance, the unloading 
>> and processing of prisoners, the quarters, the crematoria buildings, 
>> the crematoria ovens and kapos manning the ovens. But where are the 
>> photos of the WMD in action?
> 
> The thinks you've mentioned so far are not evidence of mass murder. 
> Why would mass murders document their crime in that way?
> 
> And why is their obvious failure to do so evidence?
> 
> Since when do we require criminals to document their own crimes in 
> order to be able to know they committed them?
> 
>> It would have been a simple matter for the people who made the 
>> interior crematoria photos to take some shots of the "gas chamber" as 
>> the rooms supposedly used for this gassing were adjacent to the 
>> crematoria.
> 
> It not only would have been simple, but stupid.
> 
> This has to qualify as one of the lamest excuses for denying history 
> I've ever read!
> 
> --
> Philip Mathews
> 
> 

Only photo evidence Holohoaxers showing around are the dead bodies of 
typhus victims.
JS


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All ways Da Jew, Da World  spin around them!
They own the banks, they are the money changers, IMF, World Bank, Fed. 
Res, Bank of England etc... behind it all!
http://www.cato.org/
JS


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Joe Bruno wrote:
> Protagonist wrote:
>> All ways Da Jew, Da World  spin around them!
>> They own the banks, they are the money changers, IMF, World Bank, Fed.
>> Res, Bank of England etc... behind it all!
>> http://www.cato.org/
>> JS
> 
> 
> 
> MIlton Friedman was an academic- a college professor and Economist.
> He was a staunch advocate of freemarket capitalism,

Yes, long as it made in China for 50 cents/hour labor, Bruno Baba!
JS


  so you can't
> include him in your list of "Jewish Communists".
> 



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