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Kurt Knoll wrote:
> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
> news:FZOdneiVir9f4OPZnZ2dnUVZ_u2dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Kurt Knoll wrote:
>>> It has nothing to do with blacks castrating with sex offenders should be 
>>> mandatory if it is outright rape on minors.
>>>
>>> Kurt Knoll.
>> It's been practiced here in the US, with major sex offenders.
>> http://www.212.net/crime/castrate.htm
>> JS
>  Ther you go so adolf was not very wrong at all. By the way i am 74 and it 
> would not make any differece if they castrate me or not . That thing is just 
> hangig ther taking up sapce.


Haha! You are still very young Kurt! (o:
Have you heard of Viagra?
JS






> 
> Kurtus
>>> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
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>>>> John Falstaff wrote:
>>>>> "Protagonist"  wrote in message 
>>>>> news:ZqadnSK4TedY2-DZnZ2dnUVZ_vadnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>> SOVIET RAPES IN BERLIN: UNKNOWN TOTAL
>>>>> [ . . . ]
>>>>>
>>>>> Lindbergh mentions the same thing happening in Hamburg, which he toured 
>>>>> at the war's end. He wrote (as I recall) that in that city, there 
>>>>> wasn't a woman between the ages of six and sixty who wasn't raped, 
>>>>> usually multiple times. Soviet troops were the worst. They raped women 
>>>>> wherever they found them. They entered the hospitals and raped women 
>>>>> and girls in their hospital beds. The French were almost as bad, 
>>>>> especially the French Senegalese troops. Households were required to 
>>>>> post a list of all the occupants on their front doors, giving the sex 
>>>>> and age of each. Such lists of course became virtual shopping lists for 
>>>>> gangs of rapists in the occupying forces.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is detailed in his book published long after the war, The Wartime 
>>>>> Journals of Charles A. Lindbergh.
>>>> So, maybe that's why the Nazis castrated blacks in WW2!
>>>> JS
> 


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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060603/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iran_hezbollah

 >>recruiters and criminal elements could be adapted to provide 
logistical help to terrorist operatives.

Such help could include obtaining forged travel documents or 
off-the-shelf technology  global positioning equipment and night 
goggles, for example  that could be used for military purposes.<<

No shit! This article trying to suggest, the Iranians don't know how to 
use Ebay, to buy all these "V E R Y - VERY SOPHISTICATED EQUIPMENT"??? Haha!
Idiots!
JS


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Extermination program can't be true!
Proof is, you McVay still alive!
Ouch!!!!!(o:
JS


Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:
> In article ,
> Roger   wrote:
>> In one age, called the Second Age by some,
>>   (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
>>      someone claiming to be Al Smith wrote
>>         in message : 
>>  
>>>>> I agree with what you wrote, but would comment to the original 
>>>>>> poster that the Holocaust is not a sequence of historical events, 
>>>>>> it is a compound intellectual construction, a selective gathering 
>>>>>> together of actual events that may not be linked in any 
>>>>>> significant way, mixed in with a collection of rumors, lies, and 
>>>>>> hysterical fantasies. No one would argue that there is no truth in 
>>>>>> the Holocaust dogma. It would be a miracle if it contained no 
>>>>>> factual events at all. The puzzle is to separate the truth from 
>>>>>> the lies, rumors, fantasies, and exaggerations.
>>>> As is the case with all historical events. How many war tales are there
>>>> about a single GI wiping out ten Krauts, fifty Japs, or a hundred
>>>> Ragheads? How much of the various accounts of the rescue of Jessica Lynch
>>>> is true? Does the fact that there are contradictory versions of the events
>>>> in question or that there is not "scientifically verifiable" evidence of
>>>> her rescue mean that it never happened?
>>> A lie or a fable about an event does not disprove the event, 
>> Then why are you trying to pretend that it *does*, in the case of the
>> Holocaust?
> 
> What else can "Mr. Smith" do? He is, after all, a revisionist scholar - and peddling lies
> is all he's got.
> 
> http://nizkor.org/hweb/imt/nca/nca-01/nca-01-12-jews-05.html
> 
> The huge scale of the Jewish eliminations is also reflected in the bookkeeping and
> statistics of the Germans themselves. The 16 December 1941 entry in the diary of Hans
> Frank contains these figures: 
> 
> "The Jews for us also represent extraordinarily malignant gluttons. 
> 
> "We have now approximately 2,500,000 of them in General Government -- perhaps with the
> Jewish mixtures, and everything that goes with it, 3,500,000 Jews." (2233-D-PS) 
> 
> On 25 January 1944, three years and one month later, Frank wrote in his diary these
> words: 
> 
> "At the present time we still have in the General Government perhaps 100,000 Jews."
> (2233-F-PS) 
> 
> Thus, in this period of three years, according to the records of the then Governor
> General of Occupied Poland, between 2,400,000 and 3,400,000 Jews had been eliminated. 
> 
> The total number of Jews who died by Nazi hands can never be definitely ascertained. It
> is known, however, that 4 million Jews died in concentration camps, and that 2 million
> Jews were killed by the State Police in the East, making a total of 6 million murdered
> Jews. The source of these figures is Adolph Eichmann, Chief of the Jewish Section of the
> Gestapo. The figures are contained in an affidavit made by Dr. Wilhelm Hoettl, Deputy
> Group Leader of the Foreign Section of the Security Section, AMT VI, of the RSHA. Hoettl,
> in his affidavit, states as follows: 
> 
> "Approximately 4 million Jews had been killed in the various concentration camps, while
> an additional 2 million met death in other ways, the major part of which were shot by
> operational squads of the Security Police during the campaign against Russia." (2738-PS) 
> 
> Hoettl describes the source of his information as follows: 
> 
> "According to my knowledge, Eichmann was at that time the leader of the Jewish Section of
> the Gestapo, and in addition to that he had been ordered by Himmler to get a hold of the
> Jews in all the European countries and to transport them to Germany. Eichmann was then
> very much impressed with the fact that Rumania had withdrawn from the war in those days.
> Moreover, he had come to me to get information about the military situation which I
> received daily from the Hungarian Ministry of War and from the Commander of the Waffen-SS
> in Hungary. He expressed his conviction that Germany had now lost the war and that he
> personally had no 
> further chance. He knew that he would be considered one of the main war criminals by the
> United Nations, since he had millions of Jewish lives on his conscience. I asked him how
> many that was, to which he answered that although the number was a great Reich secret, he
> would tell me since I, as a historian, would be interested, and that he would probably
> not return anyhow from his command in Rumania. He had, shortly before that, made a report
> to Himmler, as the latter wanted to know the exact number of Jews who had been killed."
> (2738-PS) 
> 


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You don't see these in Hollywood!
Enjoy!
JS
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2522332309187641888


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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6503787172739534768


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Roger wrote:
> In one age, called the Second Age by some,
>    (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
>       someone claiming to be Al Smith wrote
>          in message : 
> 
>>>> You need to get over your obsession with facts, Roger. 
> 
>>> denier "scholarship" in action...
> 
>>>>> Particularly since so many of your facts are wrong. 
> 
>>> And yet, you have yet to demonstrate *one* such.
> 
>>>>> Instead, 
>>>>> exercise your imagination, and try to figure out how human beings 
>>>>> would really behave in the situations of the concentration camps, 
>>>>> how the German guards would behave. Bear in mind that they would 
>>>>> be drafted for the job, they wouldn't volunteer. They were a 
>>>>> cross-section of the ordinary, semi-educated German middle class. 
>>>>> If Koch hadn't been guarding prisoners, she would probably have 
>>>>> been in a barn milking a cow. She was just an ordinary human being 
>>>>> who got "monsterized" after the end of the War.
> 
>>> And never mind what the *facts* show her as doing *during* the war,
>>> huh?
> 
>> Well, let's see. She's the wife of the commandant of Buchenwald, 
>> and the Oberaufseherin of the female guards. The war ends. She is 
>> accused of atrocities by various inmates who were under the 
>> control of her husband and herself. Now, think Roger. What sorts 
>> of things are they going to say about her? Nice things? Are they 
>> going to give her glowing references when she goes off looking for 
>> her next employment?
> 
> Of course, you ignore that her own co-workers called her the
> "Beautiful *Beast*," who had to be ordered to stop whipping inmates
> (which order she freely admitted breaking.)
> 
>> Or are they perhaps going to harbor a few hints of resentment 
>> against her, her husband, the Nazis, the Fuhrer, and the entire 
>> German people? In fact, are they going to lie through their teeth 
>> in an effort to get her executed, making up any crazy story they 
>> think might do her the worst harm? Because, after all, when are 
>> they going to get another chance to strike back against the Nazis? 
> 
> Okay, now all you have to do is actually *demonstrate* that anyone
> lies about her at all...
> 
>> The War is over, right? This is their last chance to get a little 
>> revenge for all the indignities and hardships they suffered.
>>
>> Unless the charges against her were completely bogus, why was her 
>> prison sentence of life reduced to four years? 
> 
> Grese was hung, idiot.
> 
>> Naturally, the 
>> persecution against her did not cease, and she was tried a second 
>> time. David Irving knows now what she learned than, that her 
>> persecutors have no humanity, and no shred of human decency. She 
>> finally killed herself in despair, because she recognized that the 
>> persecution would never cease.
>>
>> Personally, I doubt that any of the accusations against her were 
>> true. Some of them are obviously mythic, such as the story that 
>> she attached razorblades to the end of her whip and used it on 
>> pregnant women; or that she decorated her dining table with 
>> shrunken human heads and made lampshades of human skin. I mean, 
>> come on Roger, she was a middle-class German hausfrau.
> 
> No, she was a sadistic b*tch who tortured and killed prisoners

Yes, you right Roger, as all ways!
She killed and tortured 4 million inmates at Auschwitz, it was posted 
there for 45 years for the world to see!
Jews don't lie, eh?
JS



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http://www.auschwitz.dk/Women/Bormann.htm

Look it the skulls in the middle of the photo, copy/pasted in there.
Don't even match the background. Haha!
Hey, Jews can't you do better than that????

How about this one:
http://www.auschwitz.dk/Women/Oberheuser.htm
Doctored photo in the middle, as a medical experiment on a woman breast.
Haha! Seen the larger version, very bad fake!
You Jews can't do any thing right!?

JS


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http://www.auschwitz.dk/Women/Koch.htm
Look it the advertisements on this Holohoax website!
You can even vote on it!
JS


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Ben Cramer wrote:
> "Roger"  wrote in message 
> news:etap82dmucfsmn0luol4qklanedsljbfha@4ax.com...
>> In one age, called the Second Age by some,
>>   (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
>>      someone claiming to be Al Smith wrote
>>         in message :
>>
>>>>> You need to get over your obsession with facts, Roger.
>>>> denier "scholarship" in action...
>>>>>> Particularly since so many of your facts are wrong.
>>>> And yet, you have yet to demonstrate *one* such.
>>>>>> Instead,
>>>>>> exercise your imagination, and try to figure out how human beings
>>>>>> would really behave in the situations of the concentration camps,
>>>>>> how the German guards would behave. Bear in mind that they would
>>>>>> be drafted for the job, they wouldn't volunteer. They were a
>>>>>> cross-section of the ordinary, semi-educated German middle class.
>>>>>> If Koch hadn't been guarding prisoners, she would probably have
>>>>>> been in a barn milking a cow. She was just an ordinary human being
>>>>>> who got "monsterized" after the end of the War.
>>>> And never mind what the *facts* show her as doing *during* the war,
>>>> huh?
>>> Well, let's see. She's the wife of the commandant of Buchenwald,
>>> and the Oberaufseherin of the female guards. The war ends. She is
>>> accused of atrocities by various inmates who were under the
>>> control of her husband and herself. Now, think Roger. What sorts
>>> of things are they going to say about her? Nice things? Are they
>>> going to give her glowing references when she goes off looking for
>>> her next employment?
>> Of course, you ignore that her own co-workers called her the
>> "Beautiful *Beast*," who had to be ordered to stop whipping inmates
>> (which order she freely admitted breaking.)
>>
>>> Or are they perhaps going to harbor a few hints of resentment
>>> against her, her husband, the Nazis, the Fuhrer, and the entire
>>> German people? In fact, are they going to lie through their teeth
>>> in an effort to get her executed, making up any crazy story they
>>> think might do her the worst harm? Because, after all, when are
>>> they going to get another chance to strike back against the Nazis?
>> Okay, now all you have to do is actually *demonstrate* that anyone
>> lies about her at all...
>>
>>> The War is over, right? This is their last chance to get a little
>>> revenge for all the indignities and hardships they suffered.
>>>
>>> Unless the charges against her were completely bogus, why was her
>>> prison sentence of life reduced to four years?
>> Grese was hung, idiot.
>>
>>> Naturally, the
>>> persecution against her did not cease, and she was tried a second
>>> time. David Irving knows now what she learned than, that her
>>> persecutors have no humanity, and no shred of human decency. She
>>> finally killed herself in despair, because she recognized that the
>>> persecution would never cease.
>>>
>>> Personally, I doubt that any of the accusations against her were
>>> true. Some of them are obviously mythic, such as the story that
>>> she attached razorblades to the end of her whip and used it on
>>> pregnant women; or that she decorated her dining table with
>>> shrunken human heads and made lampshades of human skin. I mean,
>>> come on Roger, she was a middle-class German hausfrau.
>> No, she was a sadistic b*tch who tortured and killed prisoners
> 
> Not as bad as the jewish capos though, was she. How many of those hook nosed 
> cunts ended swinging from the end of a rope? Hmmmm? 
> 
> 

SS didn't kill, that's what the capos were there for.
Do the dirty work, keep the order!
JS


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Sara Salzman wrote:
> In article ,
>  "Kurt Knoll"  wrote:
> 
>> The defence was never allowed to investigate the evidence. I just wonder if 
>> the so called human skin does still exist for re examinations. Isle Koch's 
>> son because of the publicity and the hate propaganda against his mother as 
>> well the way he was treated committed suicide. And then I do not know of a 
>> single incident where the Germans were allowed to ask questions to the 
>> remaining camp guards from Auschwitz and Birkenau. Could it be they were 
>> under a gag order preventing them to talk to anyone without being send to 
>> jail for doing so.
>>
>> Kurt Knoll.
> 
> You do not know because you do not WANT to know, Kurt. German defense 
> attorneys at Nuremberg and ALL other war crimes trials examined and 
> cross-examined camp guards.
> 
> Of course, you don't believe it, but again, that's only because you 
> don't WANT to believe it.
> 
> Sara
> 
> And yes, the human skin is in the National Archives.
> 
>> "Al Smith"  wrote in message 
>> news:GF3jg.55307$JX1.47066@edtnps82...
>>>> And here defence was never allowed to examine the so called human skin.
>>>>
>>>> Kurt Knoll.
>>>>
>>> I believe a miscarrage of justice took place for Ilse Koch. Which doesn't 
>>> necessarily mean she was a sweatheart. But the stories told about her are 
>>> so crazy, I don't buy them.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> "Al Smith"  wrote in message 
>>>> news:i93jg.35541$I61.29375@clgrps13...
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The War is over, right? This is their last chance to get a little
>>>>>>>>>>>> revenge for all the indignities and hardships they suffered.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Unless the charges against her were completely bogus, why was her 
>>>>>>>>>>>> prison sentence of life reduced to four years?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Grese was hung, idiot.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're a little slow today, Rog ol' buddy. We're talking about Ilse 
>>>>>> Koch.
> 

So, where are those camp guards now or 20 years ago?
I don't see them parading , interviewing them any where now or before.
All we here is the Nuremberg trial 60 years ago and the Jewish side of 
stories/ lies.
JS




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