Path: news2.digex.net!digex.net!not-for-mail From: firstname.lastname@example.org (Michael P. Stein) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: Why is "Holocaust Denial" a bad thing? Date: 14 Jan 1997 06:43:17 -0500 Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA Lines: 78 Message-ID: <email@example.com> References:
<19970101232800.SAA25052@ladder01.news.aol.com> <firstname.lastname@example.org> <01bbfa97$da7c5e50$2b7213cc@server> Reply-To: email@example.com NNTP-Posting-Host: access4.digex.net Xref: news2.digex.net alt.revisionism:142237 In article <01bbfa97$da7c5e50$2b7213cc@server>, Anthony Sabatini (firstname.lastname@example.org) wrote: >[...] I always assumed "Holocaust denial" was really about "gross >exaggeration" of these events. If someone were to say 12 million died, and >a "denier" refuses and claims 500,000 were killed instead, I found it odd >that the latter should be branded anti-Semitic. But from your answer, I >think you are stating that "deniers" only question whether or not 6 million >Jews were slaughtered. If this is indeed the case, I would be interested in >hearing opposing views. Oh, dear. I see we got off the track and nobody actually ever answered the question. What you wrote above is not Holocaust denial by itself - were it so, then Raul Hilberg would be a denier since he put the total at 5.1 million. So would Reitlinger, who put it at 4.2 million. (The six million figure always was a rounded-up number from something like 5.7 million.) Classic holocaust denial includes most if not all of the following points in addition to the extreme reduction in death toll: - Most Jewish deaths were the result of disease and starvation. - And almost all of that was the fault of the Allies for disrupting food and medical supplies at the end of the war. - There was no gassing, anywhere, by any means. Any witness who says so was a) lying b) tortured c) hallucinating d) intimidated into making a false confession by fear of retribution. Any document which refers to gas chambers was a) forged by the Soviets b) misinterpreted. - Some Jews were shot, but a good many of those who did deserved it for being Communist partisans, and any Jewish women and children who were shot were only the victims of a) overeagerness on the part of the Nazis to destroy Bolshevism, as Jews were identified as Bolsheviks, or b) absolutely legal reprisals for illegal partisan warfare, or c) actually deported to Siberia by the Soviets themselves. (Why the Soviets would deport loyal Jewish communists to Siberia is something nobody has ever explained to me.) - There was absolutely no plan by the Nazi regime to exterminate the Jewish people, ever. The plan was deportation. The last idea was to conquer Russia and deport all the European Jews into areas of Russia that the Germans did not want. Any document that indicates otherwise was a) forged b) misinterpreted. - Any Jews that are missing actually a) went to Israel (never mind that there are no records to support that number) b) went to the United States (ditto) c) went into Russia (possibly followed by the Siberian deportation mentioned above) d) changed their names so as not to be identified as Jews. - In its end-stage form, Faurisson's syndrome, even the diary of Anne Frank (subjected to extensive forensic testing by the Netherlands State Forensic Institute and declared genuine) is a forgery. (Faurisson's "evidence" is that there is some writing in ballpoint pen, something not invented in the '40s. It turns out that the ballpoint marks were in just a few places, in a different handwriting, and were editing notations added during the process of preparing the diary for publication in the '50s. The text of the diary itself is in authentic pen and ink for the period - but of course Faurisson did not see fit to mention just how limited the ballpoint markings were.)  Recently David Cole - who is, ironically, himself Jewish - declared that he is satisfied that there was one gassing carried out in the Natzweiler concentration camp for the purpose of creating a Jewish skeleton collection for Dr. Hirt. Faurisson in effect excommunicated him for this heresy. I hope this gives you a better idea of what people mean when talking about Holocaust denial. Posted/emailed. -- Mike Stein The above represents the Absolute Truth. POB 10420 Therefore it cannot possibly be the official Arlington, VA 22210 position of my employer.
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