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>>Northern Hammer Skins
>
>Would this be skinheads?

	That would be correct.

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In a previous article, en282@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph M. Mills) says:

>
>    Kill nazis!!!! Kill aryans!!!! Kill millitant arabs!!!!
>      No more injustice toward the Jewish people!!!! Meir Kahane was not 
>such a bad man....he was trying to protect us from the hating world...a world 
>that hates Jews and wants them gone.... If we let them, they will win the
>battle...
>   If you think you are safe in Israel, you are not, a whole sub-continent
>wants to purge the world of our presence.  It is not safe in America either...
>much Anti-Semitism is hidden, but someday it will surface....In Europe we 
>have been destroyed, six million of us....
>   I hope the Mosiach comes soon, we may not be able to survive long enough.

	This is the same clown who posted to alt.skinheads.  Too bad the Nazis
missed his family...

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References: <2obp67$b15@news.duke.edu>  You've been reading too many of those WWII era nazi history books again.
>yes I know about them. I forget what university in Germany first came up
>with that nutty theory. But I know it for what it is. WWII nazi propaganda!

	  Arabs *are* of Semitic stock, whether you like it or not.
Even an Arab will tell you that (unless he doesn't want to associate himself
with the term "Semite", which has erroneously come to mean "Jew").  The correct
term would not be, in fact, anti-semitism, but rather anti-Judaism, or Judeo-
phobia, or even anti-Zionism.  I read the same history books you do: The Rise
and Fall of the Third Reich, by Wiliam Shirer, and Adolf Hitler's biography,
by John Toland.  To be honest, I've never even read Mein Kampf.  I find it
tedious, repetitive, and laborious, much like any philosophy text I've ever
read, from Kant to Marx, from Nietzshe to Plato.  In short, not very exciting
reading.  I should say I've never read it in its entirety.  I read enough to
get the general gist.  Anyone would after the first ten pages.

	The masses are sheep
	It's the Jews' fault.

That's my synopsis... have a nice day %)

Jason Smith
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In a previous article, Joshua.M.Winterhalt@dartmouth.edu (Joshua M. Winterhalt) says:

>let's see y'all bring your shit to dartmouth, bastards....
>you rascist sons o' bitches deserve to be skinned and flayed over a
>burning swastika!!!
>i eagerly await your chickenshit, petty responses

	Hmmm... seems we can't stress it enough: Not all skins are racist.
But it seems a dead issue.  O.K.  We're all nazis... you happy?  If anyone's
going to be burned, it'll be you when we nail you to a cross and set it alight.
]Much better than lynching the poor slobs... at least this way they suffer and
scream, and...

	Geez!  Now you can accuse me of being a sadistic nazi genocidal murderer
you pathetic shit...

-- 
Northern Hammer Skins


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In a previous article, golux@world.std.com (and not a mere Device) says:

>I would like Mr. Smith to explain what he means when he says: "If six
>million died, that's six million less to deal with in the future."
>
>What sort of "dealing with" the Jews does Mr. Smith have planned?

	I believe I've already hinted at that... deportation or severe social
restrictions.
-- 
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In a previous article, kmcvay@oneb.almanac.bc.ca (Ken Mcvay) says:

>>    While you have Jason cold for not knowing about the HUAC (not a
>>    horrible crime for a non-american) you are wrong (to the best of my
>>    knowledge) in calling him a "revisionist."   He [1] has specifically
>>    stated here that he is not a revisionist and [2] I don't recall him
>>    posting anything that can be construed as being revisionist.  (Correct
>>    me if I am wrong.)
>
>I suppose it depends upon how you choose to interpret his comments. The
>following, posted not long ago, suggests that he simply doesn't care, one
>way or the other:
>
>	"Nowhere did I denounce the killing of 'Six Million'
>     Jews.  I did point out, however, that I support
>     revisionists.  Whether six million died or not, I frankly
>     don't care.  If they did, good.  If they didn't, good.  If
>     six million died, that's six million less to deal with in
>     the future.  If they didn't die, then I'm not worried,
>     because I've lived my entire life with those Jews around me.
>     I'll transport them to the island of Madagascar, or
>     something.  I don't advocate killing them, but neither do I
>     care if they die."
>
>..and...
>
>	"As I have stated: I don't care either way.  I'm not
>     responsable for what Hitler did.  I'm no apologist, either.
>     I don't believe they were killed en-masse as you claim, but
>     if they were, I don't care.  In this way, my consciensce is
>     clear.  My predecessor's actions do not distress me in the
>     least, as I wasn't there, much less alive.  I'm not here to
>     repeat mistakes of the past."
>
>How can one decipher such language? 
>
>     "Nowhere did I denounce the killing of 'Six Million' Jews."
>
>Does Jason mean "I haven't denounced these killings because I
>don't care about them," or does he mean "These killings did not
>occur, so there is nothing to denounce?"

	I mean: "I don't care whether it happened or not.  I also believe that
holocaust stories are an exaggeration.  That does not make me a revisionist,
but rather a doubter, or as you say "denier."  They may have happened.  They
may not have.  The door is still open for discussion.  Either way, I don't
care.

>
>His support of the denial camp is clear, however - there can be no
>confusion there - but this seems coupled with a callous disregard for
>fate of the Jews, and seems pleased that there may be less of them to
>deal with, thanks to the Nazis. 
>
>As he has also suggested that Blacks are inherently incapable of
>"going anywhere," and quite obviously holds them in contempt.

	Right on both counts.
>
>At this point, one might point to such opinions and state that he is
>clearly (and proudly) a racist. Looking back a few weeks, however, to
>the end of March, we find Mr. Smith expressing his view more clearly.
>Speaking of Ho"ss, the Commandant of Auschwitz, he offered the following:

	Right again...
>
>     "The Jews had, and still have, the entire Western world in a
>     frenzy about the so-called holocaust."
>
>I submit that the phrase "so-called holocaust" clearly broadcasts Mr.
>Smith's denial, although I'm certainly prepared to entertain contrary
>arguments.

	I submit that the phrase "so-called holocaust" pertains to my doubt
as to the actual events that took place.  That makes me neither a revisionist
(which I have already stated I am not qualified to be), nor a denier.  Yes,
I support the revisionist camp.  For several reasons: vested political interests
genuine intrigue as to an alternate viewpoint, the defense of free speech and
truth, and a shared feeling of persecution.
>
>If, as you assert, Mr. Smith has
>
>"... specifically stated here that he is not a revisionist and [2]..."
>hasn't posted "... anything that can be construed as being revisionist,"
>
>then two truths become clear:
>
>1. Mr. Smith is a liar, and

	Your logic is clearly faulty.  Have I lied?  No.  I stated I did not
care as to the fate of the Jews.  I never once denied the holocaust, simply
doubted its proportions.  If that makes me a liar, then so be it.  It does not
irk me in the least to be called a liar by the likes of you.  You seem to label
everyone who does not fit your thought patterns as a liar, even though there is
no basis in fact.  Sounds much like minorities screaming "racism" when police
stop them for legitimate crimes, or when they are refused employment for
legitimate reasons (i.e. not qualified)

>Of course, that will leave #1 standing alone. Mr. Smith will still be a
>liar.

	And you a senile old man with nothing better to do than sit and capture
text from people with political views you do not share.

The Old Toad's Almanac...

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In a previous article, redman@next05cville.wam.umd.edu (Steve Eric Orders) says:

>	Hey, great way to make peace, cracker.
>		-Chester
>
	Would that be the molester, by any chance?  Besides, who wants peace?!

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In article CM8@freenet.carleton.ca, al998@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Jason Smith) writes:
> 
> 
> 
> 	A) I'm not a revisionist, nor am I qualified to be one, nor have I
> ever claimed to be one.
> 
>

Don't worry about it.  The qualifications are pretty lax.


 	B) I'm still Canadian, and I certainly can't be familiar with the
> intricacies of American History and its numerous witch-hunts.
> 

Ah, but Joe made history, immortalized even in song.  Even I know about
the idiot, and I am but a mere geology major.

> 	C) I goofed.
>

What else is new?

>

> 	D) Lighten up people
> 

Us?  You're the one taking the jokes seriously.

Keith Morrison  

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In article , al998@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Jason Smith) writes...
>>What sort of "dealing with" the Jews does Mr. Smith have planned?
> 
>	I believe I've already hinted at that... deportation or severe social
>restrictions.

    Deportation to where?  And what sort of social restrictions?  And how
    whould you determine who is a jew?

===========================================================================
daniel david mittleman     -     danny@arizona.edu     -     (602) 621-2932


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In a previous article, al998@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Jason Smith) says:

>
>
>In a previous article, ai292@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Gordon McFee) says:
>
>>Uh, Jason, McCarthy has been dead for years, and the House Committee
>>doesn't exist anymore.  I think he was pulling your leg.
>
>	So, I goofed.

Yup.
>
>>
>>Another demonstration of the intellectual and historical intelligence
>>(NOT) of the revisionists.
>
>	A) I'm not a revisionist, nor am I qualified to be one, nor have I
>ever claimed to be one.

Agree.
>
>	B) I'm still Canadian, and I certainly can't be familiar with the
>intricacies of American History and its numerous witch-hunts.

What do you mean *still* Canadian?  Thinking of switching to something else?
>
>	C) I goofed.

Yup.
>
>	D) Lighten up people
>
>-- 

I'm light, I'm light!

-- 
Gordon McFee ai292

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In a previous article, MB0527A@auvm.american.edu (Michael P. Beck) says:

>good lord...I think I'll let Al and teh boys from Submachine respond to this
>one...
>
>"WEll I love drinking beer/I know that you do too
> I love drinking beer/Cause drinkings nothing new
> Early in the morning, Early afternoon, Early in the evening...
> HEY HO LETS GO DRINK BEER!!"
>
>Thalia likes beer.  I like beer.  Jason likes beer.  And a whole lot of other
>people like beer.
>mikey.
>
	Oi! to that, mate!!!!

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In a previous article, yosh@netcom.com (Josh Dintzer) says:

>
>I've never met a skinhead out there who's not white, and the numbers are on my side when I say that most skinheads are Nazis.  At least the most prominent ones are!
>Remember that whatever you are rebelling against, rebellion does not necessarily lead to change, and 9 out of 10 times it will fail.  If it's your parents, your enemies, your teachers, your society, whatever, believe me on this one, and I know it's hard, but going with the flow will eventually TAKE you to the place you wanted to get to by rebelling: the point at which you can take your own path.  But by then you will be far better equipped to choose that path, and your choice will be better because t

	This guy's a flake.  I'm the only Nazi skin on this Net.  The rest
are not nazis.  Nazis get more media attention, because of the sensationalism
of the media.  There *are* black skins.  I remember doing one in a few years
ago.

	In fact, the majority of skins aren't racist.  I find it odd that I'm
defending them, but I do believe in a certain amount of solidarity among us.
Get your facts straight.  You must be some sociology student at University...

-- 
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In a previous article, 94maw_2@williams.edu (Thalia) says:

>	I actually have never had a mars bar candy bar...but if you're ever in
>NYC drop by the Mars Bar and have a drink..I miss that hole in the wall. 
>As for Turkish Delights..well, they're Turkish..  
>	-- Thalia
>
	What's that?  Do I detect a note of racism tinging your 'voice?'
Now, now... ;)

-- 
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In article ,
golux@world.std.com (and not a mere Device) asked:

	I would like Mr. Smith to explain what he means when he
	says: "If six million died, that's six million less to
	deal with in the future."
	
	What sort of "dealing with" the Jews does Mr. Smith
	have planned?


On Wed, 13 Apr 1994 07:31:07 GMT,
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Jason Smith (al998@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) replies:

	I believe I've already hinted at that...

On the contrary, getting Mr. Smith to state his true opinions has been
like pulling teeth!


	...deportation or severe social restrictions.

The worst thing that Mr. Smith has been able to blame on "the Jews" so
far is that some of them have labeled him an anti-Semite!  So this must
be the punishment he metes out for telling the truth.

Apparently, Mr. Smith's brand of Canadian "nationalism" means the
deportation of innocent and productive Canadian citizens.  As in the
past, the deportation or restriction of Jews will be nothing more than
a cover under which social leeches like Mr. Smith can loot all the
hard-earned savings of Canadian Jews.

Mr. Smith has vehemently protested against being labeled a "Nazi" and
being associated with genocide, as if the kind of persecution of
innocents that he advocates is somehow morally justifiable!

Most likely, any Canadian social problem that Mr. Smith hopes to fix
with the deportation of Canadian Jews, could more easily be dealt with
by deporting or committing Mr. Smith!


--

Harry Katz
==========
As I would not be a slave, so I would not be a master.
	--Abraham Lincoln


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On Wed, 13 Apr 1994 07:44:17 GMT,
in ,
Jason Smith (al998@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:

	I mean: "I don't care whether it [the Holocaust] happened
	or not.  I also believe that holocaust stories are an
	exaggeration.

As with many Holocaust deniers, denial is a religion, not a science!
Mr. Smith has admitted he does not know and does not care if there was
a Holocaust or not.  But, as an article of faith, he "believes" in the
dogma "that holocaust stories are an exaggeration."


	That does not make me a revisionist, but rather a doubter,
	or as you say "denier."

Note that here Mr. Smith acknowledges that he is a Holocaust denier,
but further on in this same post he contradicts himself:

	I submit that the phrase "so-called holocaust" pertains to
	my doubt as to the actual events that took place.  That
	makes me neither a revisionist (which I have already stated
	I am not qualified to be), nor a denier.

So now Mr. Smith has admitted to being a denier and denied being a
denier.  All that is left is for him to complain that his words have
been twisted around and taken out of context!

It is difficult to evaluate what he means when he writes that he is
"not qualified to be" a "revisionist."  Holocaust denial does not
require much in the way of brains -- in fact, intelligence of any sort
is an absolute hindrance.  So if Mr. Smith means that he is not smart
enough to be a Holocaust denier, he is admitting to an extremely low
intelligence level.  It would make more sense if he means that he is
far too intelligent to be a Holocaust denier as that would not require
very much intelligence at all to be true.  Then again, he may mean that
he does not have the capacity for lieing that is a prerequisite for
most "revisionist scholars."  It remains for Mr. Smith to clarify this
statement.


	Yes, I support the revisionist camp.  For several reasons:
	vested political interests...

So Mr. Smith has a "vested political interest" in supporting Holocaust
denial!  No doubt, Mr. Smith will once again point out, in his
humorless way, that what he wrote is obviously not what he meant -- at
least not consciously!  But Holocaust denial does satisfy the political
interests of racists and Jew haters.


	...genuine intrigue as to an alternate viewpoint,...

Regardless of whether the viewpoint is correct or not!  Mr. Smith has
already stated that he could care less if it is true or not, yet he
does not hesitate to support it!


	...the defense of free speech and truth,...

Such noble sentiments from someone who advocates deporting or severely
restricting the rights of all of Canada's Jews.  Apparently, he is
selective about whose "free speech" he is willing to defend, which, of
course, is no defense of free speech at all!  As for the defense of
truth, he has already stated he does not know what the truth is!  So
this claim is nothing but a lot of hot air designed to obfuscate the
obvious conclusion, that he cares less for truth than he does for
persecuting Jews!


	...and a shared feeling of persecution.

A shared delusion of persecution!  But rather than seek help for his
"feeling of persecution" he is busy, like a typical madman, plotting
his revenge against his imaginary enemies -- Jews and others who are
not even aware of his existence, much less responsible for his
sensitive "feelings!"

According to the Nightly Masturbator, a.k.a. Rick the Savage, with whom
Mr.  Smith has agreed in the past, this "feeling of persecution" is a
distinguishing characteristic of Jews and Judaism.  He called it a
self-fulfilling prophecy.  Does this mean that Mr. Smith himself is a
Jew or succumbing to Jewish influence?


--

Harry Katz
==========
As I would not be a slave, so I would not be a master.
	--Abraham Lincoln


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al998@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Jason Smith) writes:

>>What sort of "dealing with" the Jews does Mr. Smith have planned?

>	I believe I've already hinted at that... deportation or severe social
>restrictions.

   Question:
     Are not Jewish citizens of Canada entitled to the same rights as 
everyone else ?

Implication: 
     You are advocating laws which allow stripping of citizenship from
people due to their membership in a certain class, followed by forced
deportation, or severe social restrictions, based on a majority decision
to do so.

   Question:
     Who pisses more people off, Jews as members of the Jewish religion
or race (whatever that is), or skinheads as members of antisocial and
NeoNazi organisations ?

   Question:
     Who do you think benefits more from citizen's rights - the Jews, or
your kind ?


- Tony Q.
---
Tony Quirke, Wellington, New Zealand (email for phone no)
 "Khumbaba then felt our strength in the magic cedars,
  And we battled Anu's bull, pride of Heaven's breeders;
  Thrice we struck, and once it fell, drawing wolves for feeders,
  While we strode where drinking men called for expert leaders."


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(Keith Morrison) writes:

> 	B) I'm still Canadian, and I certainly can't be familiar with the
>> intricacies of American History and its numerous witch-hunts.

>Ah, but Joe made history, immortalized even in song.  Even I know about
>the idiot, and I am but a mere geology major.

   Shit, *I'm* a mere New Zealander, who was thankful to drop history all
together at the age of 15 or so, and *I've* heard of Tail-Gunner Joe.

   I often despair of the ignorance of humanity. Then I realise that we're
talking about "revisionists", who have problems qualifying as a member of
that class.

- Tony Q.

---
Tony Quirke, Wellington, New Zealand (email for phone no)
 "Khumbaba then felt our strength in the magic cedars,
  And we battled Anu's bull, pride of Heaven's breeders;
  Thrice we struck, and once it fell, drawing wolves for feeders,
  While we strode where drinking men called for expert leaders."


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In  al998@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Jason Smith) writes:

>	A) I'm not a revisionist, nor am I qualified to be one, nor have I
>ever claimed to be one.

If you're not a revisionist, and you're not a Nazi, what is your
interest in alt.revisionism.  I am not suggesting that the mere fact
of your posting to this group proves you to be either.  What I am
wondering if maybe you should discuss your political beliefs
elsewhere.
-- 
/|/-\/-\       The entire kitchen		Jerusalem
 |__/__/_/     is a very strange gauze pad.
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/ nysernet.org is concerned.


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In a previous article, harry@tsc.csc.cxo.dec.com (Harry Katz) says:

>As with many Holocaust deniers, denial is a religion, not a science!
>Mr. Smith has admitted he does not know and does not care if there was
>a Holocaust or not.  But, as an article of faith, he "believes" in the
>dogma "that holocaust stories are an exaggeration."

	Perhaps I should clarify that statement: There has not been sufficient
evidence to prove to me that the holocaust happened on *the scale it was 
supposed to* have happened.  In light of this, I do not believe the holocaust
story as it stands.

>	That does not make me a revisionist, but rather a doubter,
>	or as you say "denier."
>
>Note that here Mr. Smith acknowledges that he is a Holocaust denier,
>but further on in this same post he contradicts himself:
>
>	I submit that the phrase "so-called holocaust" pertains to
>	my doubt as to the actual events that took place.  That
>	makes me neither a revisionist (which I have already stated
>	I am not qualified to be), nor a denier.
>
>So now Mr. Smith has admitted to being a denier and denied being a
>denier.  All that is left is for him to complain that his words have
>been twisted around and taken out of context!

	Sadly, you have already covered my defense.  I must add, however, that
the modifying phrase "as you say" alters the meaning of the sentence.  "Denier"
is your word, not mine.  Anyone who doubts the validity of the Holocaust in
any way is labelled a "denier" by you.  I *was* taken out of context, or 
rather, just selectively interpreted.

>
>It is difficult to evaluate what he means when he writes that he is
>"not qualified to be" a "revisionist."  Holocaust denial does not
>require much in the way of brains -- in fact, intelligence of any sort
>is an absolute hindrance.  So if Mr. Smith means that he is not smart
>enough to be a Holocaust denier, he is admitting to an extremely low
>intelligence level.  It would make more sense if he means that he is
>far too intelligent to be a Holocaust denier as that would not require
>very much intelligence at all to be true.  Then again, he may mean that
>he does not have the capacity for lieing that is a prerequisite for
>most "revisionist scholars."  It remains for Mr. Smith to clarify this
>statement.

	Rather, I have not the physical resources, nor the documentation to 
peruse in order to effectively refute the holocaust stories.  I do not
maintain massive archives about the holocaust, nor do I have any wish to do
so.

>So Mr. Smith has a "vested political interest" in supporting Holocaust
>denial!  No doubt, Mr. Smith will once again point out, in his
>humorless way, that what he wrote is obviously not what he meant -- at
>least not consciously!  But Holocaust denial does satisfy the political
>interests of racists and Jew haters.

	It is _exactly_ what I meant.

>Regardless of whether the viewpoint is correct or not!  Mr. Smith has
>already stated that he could care less if it is true or not, yet he
>does not hesitate to support it!

	Again, you misrepresent what I said.  I said I didn't care whether
they (Jews) died or not.  That is a far cry from not caring about the truth.

>Such noble sentiments from someone who advocates deporting or severely
>restricting the rights of all of Canada's Jews.  Apparently, he is
>selective about whose "free speech" he is willing to defend, which, of
>course, is no defense of free speech at all!  As for the defense of
>truth, he has already stated he does not know what the truth is!  So
>this claim is nothing but a lot of hot air designed to obfuscate the
>obvious conclusion, that he cares less for truth than he does for
>persecuting Jews!

	As an alien influence, the Jews have no such claim to these rights.
My being selective of free speech is no different from yours: to muzzle all 
opposition to the holocaust in order to promote the Jewish tragedy.

>A shared delusion of persecution!  But rather than seek help for his
>"feeling of persecution" he is busy, like a typical madman, plotting
>his revenge against his imaginary enemies -- Jews and others who are
>not even aware of his existence, much less responsible for his
>sensitive "feelings!"

	And I sometimes see pink elephants...

>
>According to the Nightly Masturbator, a.k.a. Rick the Savage, with whom
>Mr.  Smith has agreed in the past, this "feeling of persecution" is a
>distinguishing characteristic of Jews and Judaism.  He called it a
>self-fulfilling prophecy.  Does this mean that Mr. Smith himself is a
>Jew or succumbing to Jewish influence?

	Everybody in this country is subject to the Jewish influence.
The Jew is a parasite that must be detached from its host in order to heal the
disease it has brought upon the people.

-- 
Northern Hammer Skins


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In article  al998@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Jason Smith) writes:

>In a previous article, harry@tsc.csc.cxo.dec.com (Harry Katz) says:


>>Such noble sentiments from someone who advocates deporting or severely
>>restricting the rights of all of Canada's Jews.  Apparently, he is
>>selective about whose "free speech" he is willing to defend, which, of
>>course, is no defense of free speech at all!  As for the defense of
>>truth, he has already stated he does not know what the truth is!  So
>>this claim is nothing but a lot of hot air designed to obfuscate the
>>obvious conclusion, that he cares less for truth than he does for
>>persecuting Jews!

>        As an alien influence, the Jews have no such claim to these rights.
>My being selective of free speech is no different from yours: to muzzle all 
>opposition to the holocaust in order to promote the Jewish tragedy.

 'an alien influence' in Canada?  I was unaware that you were native 
American.  Anyway, you do not seem particularly 'muzzled' to me.  However, the 
analogy is perhaps apt.  Rabies is a disease that is spread through biting 
and manifests itself in aggression towards others.  Muzzles are an appropriate 
way to deal with it.  Best of all, most muzzles let the dog in question bark 
all it wants.  Bark on, Jase.



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In a previous article, warren@vaccine.worlds.com (Warren Burstein) says:

>If you're not a revisionist, and you're not a Nazi, what is your
>interest in alt.revisionism.  I am not suggesting that the mere fact
>of your posting to this group proves you to be either.  What I am
>wondering if maybe you should discuss your political beliefs
>elsewhere.

	What is your interest in alt.revisionism?  Mine is mostly curiosity,
but I find I'm unable to sit idly by and watch people rag on others unjustly.
This whole thing started when Iposted a message to the effect that Britain
and France declared war on Germany, not vice versa.  Funny how things digress,
eh?  <- added because of Canadian content rules imposed by the CRTC...

-- 
Northern Hammer Skins


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References: <2ohb2f$1k0@nyheter.chalmers.se> <2obl6r$lkd@nyheter.chalmers.se>    Does anyone know the origin of the phrase "peanut gallery"?

	Ever watch the 'Howdy-doody' show?

>  Websters New World Dictionary, Third College Edition:
>
>  Germanic (phonetics) adj. [[L Germanicus, of the Germans: orig. applied
>to a particular tribe, prob Celtic]] 1 [Now Rare] German 2 Teutonic 
>3 designating or of Germanic, the language or language group. - n. 1 [Obs.]
>PROTO-GERMANIC 2 a principial branch of the Indo-European family of languages,
>comprising the languages descended from Proto-Germanic: It is divided into
>three groups: East Germanic (Including Gothic), North Germanic (Norwegian,
>Danish, Swedish, Icelandic, Old Norse, etc.), West Germanic (English, Dutch,
>German, Yiddish, Frisian, etc.)
>
>  So, tough luck, Germanic is a language term. And since the Normans in
>Normandy was Danes along with some Swedes and Norwegians, and none of the
>three countries is in Germany, neither they nor we are a German tribe.
>Case closed.

	You just proved my point.  Languages of common origin mean languages
which are derived from the same common ethnic roots.  Seeing as all the above
languages are Germanic in origin, it stands to reason that they are descended
of Germanic tribes.  Note not German, but Germanic.  There's a difference.
Furthermore, if you look up Frank (after which is named the country of France
and the French language) in the Webster's Encyclopeadic Dictionary, it says:

	Frank: n. A member of the coalition of Germanic tribes dwelling along
the Rhine, 3d cent. AD, conquerors of Gaul, 6th cent.

	The Roman occupation brought the influence of Latin to the Franks, and
thus evolved French as we know it today.  The french are ethnically related to
Germans, but the language roots are indeed Italic...

-- 
Northern Hammer Skins


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In a previous article,  () says:

>> 	No prob.  Actually, I'm glad you made the mistake..I missed the "humor"
>> the first time around 'cause I was away...
>> 	-- Thalia

>
>you sick fuck!
>

	You dumb fuck!  Thalia's black... at least partly.

-- 
Northern Hammer Skins


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In a previous article, pjeremy@utdallas.edu () says:

>Fuck you.  I missed what caused all of the commotion, too.  Didn't get to 
>see it, so couldn't comment on it.  I'd have liked to, just to know what 
>was going on, even if it was stupid and racist.  Doesn't mean I am one, 
>just curious.  If you have problem with that, too bad.  To much of a
> chickenshit to give an address, yet you seem to think you're so f**king 
>superior!  Get a clue.
>
>
>					---Blue Eyed Devil
>

	Well, I captured it a~nd saved it to a file.  I could repost it, if you
like!    Actually, it's not completely intact, I deleted the
stupid vulgar shit ?Poetry? at the end... it was *really* tasteless... even
for me.

Weisse Macht
-- 
Northern Hammer Skins


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In a previous article, harry@tsc.csc.cxo.dec.com (Harry Katz) says:

>
>Apparently, Mr. Smith's brand of Canadian "nationalism" means the
>deportation of innocent and productive Canadian citizens.  As in the
>past, the deportation or restriction of Jews will be nothing more than
>a cover under which social leeches like Mr. Smith can loot all the
>hard-earned savings of Canadian Jews.
>
>Mr. Smith has vehemently protested against being labeled a "Nazi" and
>being associated with genocide, as if the kind of persecution of
>innocents that he advocates is somehow morally justifiable!

I can assure you Harry, that Mr. Smith no more speaks for Canadian values
than Gannon and his ilk speak for American values.  They are the same
types of moral and sociological misfits.
 >
>Most likely, any Canadian social problem that Mr. Smith hopes to fix
>with the deportation of Canadian Jews, could more easily be dealt with
>by deporting or committing Mr. Smith!
>
Where would you see him "banished" to?
-- 
Gordon McFee ai292

I'll write no line before its time!


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In a previous article, al998@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Jason Smith) says:

>
>
>In a previous article, harry@tsc.csc.cxo.dec.com (Harry Katz) says:
>
>>As with many Holocaust deniers, denial is a religion, not a science!
>>Mr. Smith has admitted he does not know and does not care if there was
>>a Holocaust or not.  But, as an article of faith, he "believes" in the
>>dogma "that holocaust stories are an exaggeration."
>
>	Perhaps I should clarify that statement: There has not been sufficient
>evidence to prove to me that the holocaust happened on *the scale it was 
>supposed to* have happened.  In light of this, I do not believe the holocaust
>story as it stands.

On what scale do you think it *did* happen?

[deletia]
>
>	Again, you misrepresent what I said.  I said I didn't care whether
>they (Jews) died or not.  That is a far cry from not caring about the truth.

Just to make sure I understand you, let's say only 600,000 Jews were
murdered by the Nazis (10% of the accepted figure).  You are saying that
"you don't care"?  600,000 people murdered and you don't care?!

[deletia]
>
>	As an alien influence, the Jews have no such claim to these rights.
>My being selective of free speech is no different from yours: to muzzle all 
>opposition to the holocaust in order to promote the Jewish tragedy.

In what way are the Jews "an alien influence"?  Are they from Mars?  This
is the standard Nazi drivel, as invented by Rosenberg, Chamberlain and
others.  Your true colours are showing Jason.

[deletia]
>
>	Everybody in this country is subject to the Jewish influence.
>The Jew is a parasite that must be detached from its host in order to heal the
>disease it has brought upon the people.

This is precisely the imagery used by Hitler in Mein Kampf, the old
"bacillus" bit.  I'll bet you don't even know what it means--just
parrotting the party line, right Jason?

What you are saying is that the Jews should be
exterminated--"ausgerottet".  That's the term used for bacilli.  Do you
agree with this statement?

-- 
Gordon McFee ai292

I'll write no line before its time!


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al998@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Jason Smith) writes...
>In a previous article, harry@tsc.csc.cxo.dec.com (Harry Katz) says:
.. 
>>Such noble sentiments from someone who advocates deporting or severely
>>restricting the rights of all of Canada's Jews.  Apparently, he is
>>selective about whose "free speech" he is willing to defend, which, of
>>course, is no defense of free speech at all!  As for the defense of
>>truth, he has already stated he does not know what the truth is!  So
>>this claim is nothing but a lot of hot air designed to obfuscate the
>>obvious conclusion, that he cares less for truth than he does for
>>persecuting Jews!

>	As an alien influence, the Jews have no such claim to these rights.
>My being selective of free speech is no different from yours: to muzzle all 
>opposition to the holocaust in order to promote the Jewish tragedy.

    As both the British and French (Jews among them) came in from Europe
    and took the land away from Canadian Indians, in what way are Jews more
    alien than Canadians of British or French heritage?


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Article 10894 of alt.revisionism:
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In article  ai292@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Gordon McFee) writes:

>In a previous article, harry@tsc.csc.cxo.dec.com (Harry Katz) says:

>>Apparently, Mr. Smith's brand of Canadian "nationalism" means the
>>deportation of innocent and productive Canadian citizens.  As in the
>>past, the deportation or restriction of Jews will be nothing more than
>>a cover under which social leeches like Mr. Smith can loot all the
>>hard-earned savings of Canadian Jews.

>>Mr. Smith has vehemently protested against being labeled a "Nazi" and
>>being associated with genocide, as if the kind of persecution of
>>innocents that he advocates is somehow morally justifiable!

>I can assure you Harry, that Mr. Smith no more speaks for Canadian values
>than Gannon and his ilk speak for American values.  They are the same
>types of moral and sociological misfits.

>>Most likely, any Canadian social problem that Mr. Smith hopes to fix
>>with the deportation of Canadian Jews, could more easily be dealt with
>>by deporting or committing Mr. Smith!

>Where would you see him "banished" to?

Germany? (Think how pleased he would be, strutting about Munich!)

>Gordon McFee ai292
>
>I'll write no line before its time!


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In article , al998@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Jason Smith) writes...
>	As an alien influence, the Jews have no such claim to these rights.

[...]

>	Everybody in this country is subject to the Jewish influence.
>The Jew is a parasite that must be detached from its host in order to heal the
>disease it has brought upon the people.

Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated. Mazel tov.



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In article , al998@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Jason Smith) writes:

>>Such noble sentiments from someone who advocates deporting or severely
>>restricting the rights of all of Canada's Jews.  Apparently, he is
>>selective about whose "free speech" he is willing to defend, which, of
>>course, is no defense of free speech at all!  As for the defense of
>>truth, he has already stated he does not know what the truth is!  So
>>this claim is nothing but a lot of hot air designed to obfuscate the
>>obvious conclusion, that he cares less for truth than he does for
>>persecuting Jews!
> 
> 	As an alien influence, the Jews have no such claim to these rights.
> My being selective of free speech is no different from yours: to muzzle all 
> opposition to the holocaust in order to promote the Jewish tragedy.


        Alien influence, eh?  Pardon me Mr. Smith but are you of european
descent?  if so, I guess the native americans should be limiting your rights, as
you are an "alien influence".  
        Go back to europe, you fucking interloper.

        I find it amusing how you use "situational ethics".  The jews are an
alien influence, as they are not of your "race" (whatever the hell that means),
yet your "alieness" in the americas is somehow overlooked.

> 	Everybody in this country is subject to the Jewish influence.
> The Jew is a parasite that must be detached from its host in order to heal the
> disease it has brought upon the people.

        Projecting again, eh?

> -- 
> Northern Hammer Skins

        hmmm.  you _must_ mean Nothern Hammer Foreskins.

-- 
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Brian Harmon           "How much trouble could a couple of 
Miami University	  scientists get into anyway?"
Oxford, Ohio 45056  		-- Marc Singer, _Dead Space_
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In a previous article, stara@husc7.harvard.edu (Felix Vagabond) says:

>  statement. May the winds of the dead Viking come to take you home.

	May you some day learn to write English with proper grammar...

	Ou preferez-vous le francais?

-- 
Northern Hammer Skins


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In a previous article, bsubf@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Pitt.) says:

>B.T.W. It's getting round to St.George's Day folks (23rd April).
>The day all English skins have a bloody good excuse to get wrecked - not
>that we need one! Oi for England! England belongs to me!
>
>I am St. George and I reclaim my empire!

	Been listening to a little too much Brutal Attack, there, eh?  Oi!
For England!  Oi! For England, let's cry Oi!  For England!  There's Nowhere
to hide!

	What's this shit about democracy, and what the fuck is a free country?
	There's fighting on the streets, my country's killed my rights,
	Who gets the blame whenever there's a fight?

	Oi!  For England's Skinheads!

>Pitt. - Pissed already.

	'Ave one fer me...

-- 
Northern Hammer Skins


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In a previous article, bsubf@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Pitt.) says:

>Too much Brutal Attack! Too much Brutal Attack! Vex me not young infidel!
>You can never get too much Brutal Attack (or too much of The Oppressed for
>that matter!) My turn to quote lyrics now:

	Very well, I retract that treasonous statement... God forgive me, for
I have sinned.  If not God, at least St. George!

>	People fear us, think we're strange,
>	Boots and braces, we won't change.
	^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  This brings something else to mind...

>	We will never be second best.
>	You know us, we're The Oppressed.

	You wouldn't happen to know the lyrics to Boots 'n' Braces, would you?
I don't care what anybody says, racist or not, it's a good skin tune...  If
you got 'em, post 'em!  Or mail them, so as not to upset the tender sensi-
bilities of people here...

>Suddenly everything seem clearer...

	Is the hangover haze clearing?!

-- 
Northern Hammer Skins


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In a previous article, novumian@aol.com (Novumian) says:

>In article , edc@alert.com (Ed Clark) writes:
>
>">Think about it, if it wasnt for us you would either be starving in the
>>desert or still hunting animals with spears? Now you have all the free
>>food you want, all the free money and welfare, houseing and schooling.
>
>"I've been reading this post for nearly 2 months now.  I've found that
>statements like the above are far too racist too be tolerated by anyone."
>
>Yeah, I'll back you up. That statement is bullshit and whoever wrote it can eat
>a fat dick. 

	Yours, I presume?  Fuckin' 'omo...

-- 
Northern Hammer Skins


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In a previous article, farthing@leland.Stanford.EDU (L. J. Farthing) says:

>No, but I do support Germany giving money to the people who
>suffered during the Holocaust.  And the US given money to
>Japanese-Americans who were interned during WW II.

	That's bullshit.  Things like this happen in the world all the time.
Money is not the answer.  It's capitalists like you with their money-fixation
that are driving this world to the brink.  Do you support the Allies giving
reperations to the survivors of the Dresden firebombing?  How about to the
thousands who died in Allied POW camps?  What about the Japanese giving
money to Americans held in camps?  How about the British giving descendants
of the Boers money, for holding them in concentration camps?  Injustice is
a fact of life.  Live with it.  I don't think money should be given to any
Japanese-'Americans' for any reason.  IT WAS WARTIME!  Anybody with a cultural
background akin to the Japanese could have been a potential threat to the US.
It was only logical that they would be held, or at least monitored.  Just
because they are American citizens doesn't make their allegiances clear, no
matter what they say now.  If you became a citizen of Japan, and war broke out,
you would most likely be interned as well.  Such is war.  How about reparations
to the people slaughtered without cause by the Japanese?  What about giving
money to China?  Right.  It's a pipe dream.  I'm tired of all these bleeding
hearts trying to correct injustices by awarding money.  I'm also tired of
hearing them bellyache about said injustices.  Injustice is rife in the 
world, and you have to deal with it.  Hey, maybe we should give money to
European descendants whose families were oppressed by the Roman Empire...

>If the discrimination today is used to correct the
>discrimination of the post, I think it's correct.  Look,
>this thread appeared to begin when someone complained about
>minorities and women being given extra consideration in
>getting jobs in the LA fire department.  Someone quoted (I'm
>not sure if the quote is correct) that the fire department
>is 90-something % white.  Does that make sense in a city as
>diverse as LA? 

	Yes it does.  And besides, if discrimination is used to correct
discrimination, it will just create a backlash, much as is happening now.
You sound like the typical left-winger saying about the right-wing: "Those
fascists, they shouldn't be allowed to spread such filth!  We should kill them
all!"  So who's the fascist?  They use the same tactics that they condemn us
for using.  Like the stove calling the kettle black, pardon the pun.

-- 
Northern Hammer Skins


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From: harry@tsc.csc.cxo.dec.com (Harry Katz)
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In article ,
Jason Smith (al998@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) first wrote:

	That does not make me a revisionist, but rather a doubter,
	or as you say "denier."

Later on in the same post he contradicted himself:

	That makes me neither a revisionist... nor a denier.

In article <2okjai$t3q@netnews.alf.dec.com>, I pointed out the
contradiction:

	So now Mr. Smith has admitted to being a denier and denied
	being a denier.  All that is left is for him to complain that
	his words have been twisted around and taken out of context!

This, in itself, is not a grave error, although it does tend to point
up the mental confusion behind Mr. Smith's prejudices.  Nevertheless,
it irked Mr. Smith so much that he falls all over himself trying to
explain it away!

On Fri, 15 Apr 1994 14:31:33 GMT, in ,
Jason Smith (al998@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:

	Sadly, you have already covered my defense.

That is, he really is claiming that his words were taken out of
context!  Apparently, he does not know what this means, but has caught
on that it is an effective defense in some situations.

	I must add, however, that the modifying phrase "as you say"
	alters the meaning of the sentence.

The phrase "as you say" contributes to the meaning of the sentence, but
could not alter it unless it was added at another time, or deleted from
the original quote, which is not the case.

	"Denier" is your word, not mine.  Anyone who doubts the
	validity of the Holocaust in any way is labelled a "denier"
	by you.

No one is accusing Mr. Smith of coining the phrase "Holocaust denier,"
so all this dancing around this fact is beside the point.

	I *was* taken out of context, or rather, just selectively
	interpreted.

Let's look at the statement again:

	That does not make me a revisionist, but rather a doubter,
	or as you say "denier."

Mr. Smith clearly indicates that the word "denier" is not one of his
own choosing, but just as clearly agrees that the word fits him.  This
has nothing to do with context or selective interpretation.  Mr. Smith
simply contradicted himself and his vanity is so great that he cannot
let it go!

--

Harry Katz
==========
Retaining human dignity, withstanding humiliation, and persevering in
the hope of redemption were forms of resistance.
	-- Hyman Bass


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References:   <2osttp$kt6@access3.digex.net> I thought you all might be interested in hearing about how our
>demonstration ended on Sunday.  At about three, some clown from the other
>side knocks a stack of flyers out of my hand and they go flying.  It's a 
>windy day so they spread all over the plaza in front of the museum,
>and for a while the museum security people are busy scrambling around
>picking them up.  Then a little while later a couple of cops show up and
>tell us to stop demonstrating - something about inciting a civil
>disturbance. Talk about blaming the victim! 

	Maybe you should have more skinheads at your demos... ;)

>
>Something similar happened in Manhattan the weekend before.  We're
>demonstrating at a theatre that's showing Schindler's List.  A guy comes
>from out of nowhere and starts hitting one of our people, a Palestinian,
>and calling him all sorts of names.  Our guy holds on to his assailant to
>try to restrain him.  All in plain sight of the cops. But now dig this. 
>The guy that was hitting our man goes away, but comes back a little later
>and tries to persuade the cop to arrest the guy he was hitting!  And he
>won't give up.  He keeps talking to the cop.  Fortunately, in this case,
>the cop finally gets shed of him, and our demonstration continues 
>uninterrupted. 

	Boot! to the head...

Loyalty above all else except Honour
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In article ,
Jason Smith (al998@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:

	I mean: "I don't care whether it [the Holocaust]
	happened or not.  I also believe that holocaust
	stories are an exaggeration.


In article <2okjai$t3q@netnews.alf.dec.com>, I responded:

	As with many Holocaust deniers, denial is a religion, not a
	science! Mr. Smith has admitted he does not know and does not
	care if there was a Holocaust or not.  But, as an article of
	faith, he "believes" in the dogma "that holocaust stories
	are an exaggeration."


On Fri, 15 Apr 1994 14:31:33 GMT,
in ,
Jason Smith (al998@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) responds:

	Perhaps I should clarify that statement: There has not been
	sufficient evidence to prove to me that the holocaust happened
	on *the scale it was supposed to* have happened.

There has been no evidence presented whatsoever to prove that Mr. Smith
has even bothered to investigate what evidence there is to support the
Holocaust.

	In light of this, I do not believe the holocaust
	story as it stands.

In light of this, Mr. Smith's beliefs may still be characterized as
religious and dogmatic in nature.


	I have not the physical resources, nor the documentation to 
	peruse in order to effectively refute the holocaust stories.

In spite of his inability to "effectively refute the holocaust stories"
Mr. Smith still refuses to believe them!  Another admission that his
denial is a matter of religious doctrine, not scientific investigation.

	I do not maintain massive archives about the holocaust, nor
	do I have any wish to do so.

Naturally, because facts tend to get in the way of his prejudices.


In his original post, Mr. Smith claimed:

	Yes, I support the revisionist camp.  For several reasons:
	vested political interests...

To which I responded:

	So Mr. Smith has a "vested political interest" in supporting
	Holocaust denial!  No doubt, Mr. Smith will once again point
	out, in his humorless way, that what he wrote is obviously not
	what he meant -- at least not consciously!  But Holocaust
	denial does satisfy the political interests of racists
	and Jew haters.

But I was wrong!  Mr. Smith is not ashamed to admit that he is
exploiting the Holocaust for political reasons!

	It is _exactly_ what I meant.


Mr. Smith's original post continued with another reason why he supports
the Holocaust deniers:

	...genuine intrigue as to an alternate viewpoint,...

To which I responded:

	Regardless of whether the viewpoint is correct or not!
	Mr. Smith has already stated that he could care less if it
	is true or not, yet he does not hesitate to support it!

Which brought out this from Mr. Smith:

	Again, you misrepresent what I said.  I said I didn't care
	whether they (Jews) died or not.  That is a far cry from not
	caring about the truth.

The truth is that either six million Jews were murdered or not.  If Mr.
Smith does not care whether these Jews were murdered, then he does not
care about the truth.

Moreover, he has already stated that there is not enough evidence to
convince him it happened and that he has no resources to prove that it
did not happen.  If he truly cared for the truth he would be neutral,
but he is not neutral!  Instead he supports a side that he cannot
prove is true or false, because it satisfies his political agenda.


Mr. Smith's original post continued with yet another reason why he
supports the Holocaust deniers:

	...the defense of free speech and truth,...

To which I responded:

	Such noble sentiments from someone who advocates deporting
	or severely restricting the rights of all of Canada's Jews.
	Apparently, he is selective about whose "free speech" he is
	willing to defend, which, of course, is no defense of free
	speech at all!  As for the defense of truth, he has already
	stated he does not know what the truth is!  So this claim
	is nothing but a lot of hot air designed to obfuscate the
	obvious conclusion, that he cares less for truth than he
	does for persecuting Jews!

Now Mr. Smith elaborates:

	As an alien influence, the Jews have no such claim to these
	rights.

Mr. Smith prides himself on adopting the political philosophy of
Hitler's inferiors -- a philosophy that was developed halfway across
the world over half a century ago -- and has the nerve to call decent
Canadian citizens, who have worked to make positive contributions to
Canada's growth and prosperity, "an alien influence!"

	My being selective of free speech is no different from yours:
	to muzzle all opposition to the holocaust in order to promote
	the Jewish tragedy.

The last time Mr. Smith accused me of something, it was that I was
about to label him an anti-Semite and call him all sorts of horrible
names, which, of course, never happened.  Now he wants to restrict free
speech, in the name of "defending" free speech, based on his paranoid
delusion that I, or any other defender of historical truth, want "to
muzzle all opposition!"  It will matter little to Mr. Smith that he is
dead wrong, that I and everyone opposed to him in this newsgroup will
still defend his right to free speech even as he attacks ours.  He will
still use this lie as a pretext to stifle free speech because it is
politically expedient, and he will still claim to be motivated by a
desire to "defend free speech!"


Mr. Smith's original post finally presented his last reason why he
supports the Holocaust deniers:

	...and a shared feeling of persecution.

To which I responded:

	A shared delusion of persecution!  But rather than seek help
	for his "feeling of persecution" he is busy, like a typical
	madman, plotting his revenge against his imaginary enemies --
	Jews and others who are not even aware of his existence, much
	less responsible for his sensitive "feelings!"

And Mr. Smith tries to shrug off:

	And I sometimes see pink elephants...

Apparently, in Mr. Smith's world, even the elephants are Bolsheviks!
But what he never does is defend his contention that he is actually
being persecuted!


My post concluded:

	According to the Nightly Masturbator, a.k.a. Rick the Savage,
	with whom Mr.  Smith has agreed in the past, this "feeling of
	persecution" is a distinguishing characteristic of Jews and
	Judaism.  He called it a self-fulfilling prophecy.  Does this
	mean that Mr. Smith himself is a Jew or succumbing to Jewish
	influence?

To which Mr. Smith responds:

	Everybody in this country is subject to the Jewish influence.

Then Mr. Smith admits that he is succumbing to this influence
and turning into a Jew himself!

	The Jew is a parasite that must be detached from its host
	in order to heal the disease it has brought upon the people.

So far, Mr. Smith has failed to identify a single crime committed by
Jews anywhere in the world!  All he has presented are literary
metaphors and similes, like "parasite" and "disease" which is just
a way of avoiding the question entirely.

So far, the worst accusation that Mr. Smith has leveled against the
Jews as a whole, or any particular Jew, is that they have, quite
correctly, labeled him an anti-Semite!  Apparently, Mr. Smith's brand
of Nazism, just like HItler's,  contains harsh punishments for those
who tell the truth!

--

Harry Katz
==========
Retaining human dignity, withstanding humiliation, and persevering in
the hope of redemption were forms of resistance.
	-- Hyman Bass



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In a previous article, codfish@netcom.com (Ross Vicksell) says:

>I'm glad Canada doesn't suppress revisionists like Germany does, but it's 
>too bad they won't let David Irving in. 

	Well, they're suppressed under different laws.  I saw David Irving
at the Congress Center in Ottawa a few years ago.  Myself and about 30 other
skins were present.  We did security for the event, as there were a shitload
of protesters outside.  They tried to intimidate lecture goers with threats,
taunts, and alot of spitting on people.  Their plan wasn't too ingenious,
however, as there were Jews and other Holocaust proponents trying to get in 
as well to refute Mr. Irving.  They succeeded in intimidating their own.

Loyalty above all else except Honour
-- 
Northern Hammer Skins


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In a previous article, kauhunen@mits.mdata.fi (Kari Nenonen) says:

>Onko usenetissa joku m{{ritelm{ kelvolliselle englanninkielelle? Tai saksan?
>I can make myself understood in six languages. In how many you do?

	And this somehow makes you better?  Want a bone?

-- 
Northern Hammer Skins


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js = al998@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Jason Smith)

me: If you're not a revisionist, and you're not a Nazi, what is your
me: interest in alt.revisionism.

>	What is your interest in alt.revisionism?  Mine is mostly curiosity,
>but I find I'm unable to sit idly by and watch people rag on others unjustly.
>This whole thing started when Iposted a message to the effect that Britain
>and France declared war on Germany, not vice versa.  Funny how things digress,

My interest in alt.revisionism is informing myself about the
activities of Nazi posters such as yourself.  Having read your
posting  in which you write:
    As an alien influence, the Jews have no such claim to these rights.
and
    The Jew is a parasite that must be detached from its host in order
    to heal the disease it has brought upon the people.
you can contend that you are not a Nazi until your face turns Prussian
blue and it won't do a bit of good.

Why do I want to keep informed about current-day Nazis?  Because they
seek to harm me and my people.
-- 
/|/-\/-\       The entire universe		Jerusalem
 |__/__/_/     is a very *** apple.
 |warren@      But the okra
/ nysernet.org is hungry.


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In a previous article, esvms@csv.warwick.ac.uk (SPEED FREEK=) says:

>     Come on then Mr.Pitt. I,ll Give you a time and place.
>     This weakend.
>     friday night. 
>     8.00 pm.
>     outside Thomas-King House Hillfields Coventry.
>     Thats just down the road Bud.
>
>     British by Motherfucking nature hehehe
>     English by a twist of fate.
>
>     Bring all your bald motherfucker friends, 
>    
>     and wear bulletproof vests if I was you.
>     Yeah your all a BUNCH OF MOUTHY FUCKERS, LETS GET DOWN TO SOME 
>     OF THE STUFF THAT MAKES US ALL SO HARD SO MEAN SO COOL SO BAD.
>     HAVE YOU GOT IT MR.PITT
>     ITS EASY TO FLAME ON THE NET, LETS SEE YOU IN ALL YOUR BALD GLORY
>     MY FRIEND AND SEE JUST WHAT IT IS YOU ARE OF.
>      

	Hey, Pitt, do this asshole.  Give 'im a boot party.  Man, do I wish
I was in England, I'd join in!  Hell, even the WP boys'd be glad to give you
a hand against this idiot.  We believe stupid people shouldn't be allowed to
breed...

-- 
Northern Hammer Skins


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In a previous article, plunney@mac.cc.macalstr.edu (TIGGER) says:

>Hold on, kids, don't flame.
>
>He goes to my school.
>
>I'll take care of it.
>
>xxxoooxxxTIGGER
>

	Thanks Tig.

:)
-- 
Northern Hammer Skins


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In a previous article, 94maw_2@williams.edu (Thalia) says:

>	Happens to us all.  Anyway, isn't the deal with ice beer that it's real
>smooth, but has a higher alcohol content than usual??

	Right.  Like 5% for you Americans.  Labbatt Ice beer here has 7.1%
alcohol, and Molson XXX has 7.3%.  La Maudite (a quebec brewed beer, available
only in "La belle province") has 8% alcohol.  Sucks to be American.

-- 
Northern Hammer Skins


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In a previous article, bmacbeth@moe.coe.uga.edu (Brian Macbeth) says:


	Agh!  Check out the subject line!!!  At least the question didn't
come with this post...   Not again!

-- 
Northern Hammer Skins


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	Available now:  Racialist CDs, T's, patches, etc...  For those 
interested.  For those who aren't, who cares?

CD's: $25.00 Cdn.:
Midtown Boot boys 'The time will come'
White Terror  'White Terror no. 1'
Bound For Attack 'Bound for Attack' (Brutal attack & Bound for Glory)
Das Reich 'Triumph of the will'

7" Vynil: $12.00 Cdn.
Max Resist & the Hooligans  'Traitors Beware/Johnny Rebel'

Tapes: $15.00 Cdn.
Vanguard 'It's Time'
White Riot 'Victory'

Also available: Skrewdriver, Das Reich, Midtown Boot Boys, No Remorse, &
Max Resist stickers ($3.00 Cdn. Glossy, colour)

Videos: $25.00
Montreal Show: Cross, Stormfront
Montreal Show '93: Brutal Attack, Aryan, Max Resist, The Voice, Rahowa, Bound
for Glory, Nordic Thunder, Aggravated Assault
Aryan Fest '89: B.F.G. + the U.S. Bands
Aryan Fest '90: B.F.G./ No Remorse
Skrewdriver live - St. George's Day '87

T-shirts: $20.00 Brutal Attack (Can./U.S. tour '93) black, L/XL

Song Books: $4.00
Skrewdriver #1 & 2
No Remorse #1 & 2

Other merchandise available.  Write for more information/prices, etc... to:
Northern Hammer Skins
P.O. Box 428
Gatineau Qc.
J8P 7P3 Canada

-- 
Northern Hammer Skins


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In a previous article, pjeremy@utdallas.edu () says:

>My vote for worst has to go to either Carling's Black Label or Meister 
>Brau.  Not two of your better quality swills.

	You do mean American Black Label, don't you?  Someone else told me it
was really foul too...  Funny, it's my favorite brand up here.  The Canuck
version is really good.  Then again, the worst Canadian beer is better than
most American brews...

-- 
Northern Hammer Skins


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In a previous article, davistev@cwis.isu.edu (DAVIS_STEVE_J) says:

>
>  For people that are always wanting to outlaw handguns due to the fact
>that they kill so many people, did you know that 80% of the murders in 
>this country are done by blacks?  Isn't that kinda odd that 30% of the
>population could commit 80% of the nations murders?  Goes to show you 
>their moral values.

	Just look at Washinton... 90% black, and is the world's murder
capital.  Except for maybe Rwanda now...

>  The worst thing about this is that all the stop the violence propoganda
>that you see on T.V. targets skinheads and Klan members.  Shouldn't we 
>be focusing on the real problem (black teens), instead of a bunch of 
>insignificant crap about racism and ethnic hatred!
	Why, because they're an oppressed minority, and it's due to all
the injusticce done to them...  It's due to their social conditions, blah,
blah, blah...  Bullshit.  They're tribal.

>  Since the U.S of A has to go through a bunch of bull shit to punish 
>everybody for the actions of a few I know it would be out of the question
>to make a law prohibiting a black from owning a firearm.  No, that would
>be too easy and actualy solve the problem and would create other problems.
>Instead we have to ban automatic weapons, sawed off shot guns and make laws
>such as the Brady Bill to keep the blacks from killing each other off.

	I say let 'em.

-- 
Northern Hammer Skins


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From: al998@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Jason Smith)
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In a previous article,  (-ME-) says:

>i guess the Grand Cy-clown is the king of the white-trash world.  Oh please
>most of the fucking people on welfare are your precious white trash.  the
>filth of the country.  the lazy, nasty, stupid, ignorant, savage, immoral
>white scum is what you should be worrying about.  why don't you stop
>bringing guns and drugs in the country then we wouldn't have this problem. 
>keep all your white corrupt gun and drug dealers out of the black
>neighborhoods.  tell your nasty disease-infested white hoes and faggots to
>stop spreading aids. stop your evil government from wasting money on high
>priced white trash to help build better schools so that blacks can educate
>themselves so that they can get away from the corruption and savagery of
>white people in this fucking country.  blacks are not the problem, white
>people are.  all you fuckers do is complain about the country, blame
>somebody else [usually black], drink beer and fuck each other and dogs. 
>you have no morals so i guess that's why i don't expect too much from you
>cavedwellers...sunburning fucks!
>

	Right.  Blacks are so fucking civilised that they're killing each 
other off all over Africa.  At least we've progressed beyond tribalism.  As
far as AIDS goes, it comes from African monkeys.  The only way we spread
AIDS was by some race traitor fucking one of your ugly, sagging, broad-nosed
fat-lipped, cro-magnon, genetic throwback porch monkeys.  The drugs in this
country all come from third-world countries (let me guess, Jamaicans aren't
responsable for the Ganga, eh?)  And frankly, we fuck dogs instead of niggers.
They smell better.

-- 
Northern Hammer Skins


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In a previous article, al998@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Jason Smith) says:

>Other merchandise available.  Write for more information/prices, etc... to:
>Northern Hammer Skins
>P.O. Box 428
>Gatineau Qc.
>J8P 7P3 Canada

	Sorry, I fucked up.  The address is right, but the Postal Code is:
	J8P 7A1

	If you already sent it off, it should get here anyway.  I just wanted
to correct that...  shit.  Too much beer.

-- 
Northern Hammer Skins


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From: al998@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Jason Smith)
Subject: Re: pendrafuck
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References: <1994Apr23.044018.1@mac.cc.macalstr.edu> <1994Apr7.023334.1@mac.cc.macalstr.edu> I hate to beat this into the ground, but I didn't have to post to
>alt.sex.fetish.orientals to get a girlfriend. You, on the other hand, well, we
>all saw your cute "I want an asian woman" post.
>EVERYONE here laughed at you. Jason too.
>
>xxxoooxxxTIGGER
>

	That's right!  Let's face it, it was quite funny.  He comes here, spews
his racist shit (inarticulately, I might add!), then goes and asks for an
asian GF.  Go figger.  He posts a bunch of contradictory shit all over the
place, if you look around in different newsgroups.  Poor sod.

Jason
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Northern Hammer Skins


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Subject: Re: README REAL SKINHEADS
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In a previous article, plunney@mac.cc.macalstr.edu (TIGGER) says:

>No problem.
>
>Poor hippy kid didn't know what he was getting into....

	Heheh...
>
>xxxoooxxxTIGGER
>
>*hugs to Jason, because, well, he understands that we all REALLY love one
>another.*
>

	See.  I may be a bonehead, but all in all, I'm not such a bad sort!
Hugs back... 

Jason
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Northern Hammer Skins


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In a previous article, plunney@mac.cc.macalstr.edu (TIGGER) says:

>Bullshit, blah, bother. You aren't even a skin, what do you know about it? Fact
>is, a lot of skins go from being SHARP to Nazi depending on who accepts them
>more. Not all Nazi skins do it for pride.

	That's true.  There's a remarkable number of skins who go from SHARP
to nazi, and much less the other way around.  I guess we're less discriminating
then... :)

>He just said "Drunken fools." Jason, that's a direct potshot, and you're a
>Nazi.

	 some of my best friends are drunken fools.  Hell, so am I.  I'm
still a nazi, though.  And if you can't laugh at yourself, who can you laugh
at?!

>Nope, it's because osme of us can think.
>
>Hey, cunt-boy, talk about skins. Relate to skins. Discuss skins. Not bullshit
>that doesn't ahve anything to do with skins. In other words, don't just say,
>"hey, I like Nazi skins" and then rant about white power.
>
>I bet you've never met a skin, you cunt.

Standard Disclaimer:  Tigger's overbearing, but we love him anyway...

-- 
Northern Hammer Skins


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warren@vaccine.worlds.com (Warren Burstein) writes:

>Why do I want to keep informed about current-day Nazis?  Because they
>seek to harm me and my people.

   Try not to get too centered on the personal threat, Warren. I'm of
Celtic extraction, and about as far as you can get from Jewish and still
have a white skin, and I *know* they'll want to hurt me too.

   Y'see if these Nazi wannabes ever get a chance at power, they'll have to
apply the term "over my dead body" literally. And I don't intend to go out
easily.

   Rest easy, Warren, they're so pathetic they have very little chance.
And if, by some dark miracle, they managed to get enough gumption to try,
you'll find it's no longer just "you and yours" they'll have to go up 
against.

- Tony Q.
---
Tony Quirke, Wellington, New Zealand (email for phone no)
 "At school they taught me how to be,
  so pure in thought and word and deed.
  They didn't quite succeed..." - PSB


Article 11470 of alt.revisionism:
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From: al998@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Jason Smith)
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>   Was it you who was suggesting deporting Jews from Canada for being
>an "alien" and "parasitical" influence ?

	Nope, t'was me.

>
>   One suspects that those who ignore civil rights but complain bitterly
>when others transgress these rights are hypocrites. What's your opinion,
>Ross ?
>

	Methinks he is on the level.
-- 
Northern Hammer Skins


Article 5941 of alt.skinheads:
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From: al998@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Jason Smith)
Subject: Re: Black/White Power/Crime
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>Jason, you're pretty smart for a Nazi. :-)

	Like I've tried to say before, just because I have certain points
of view doesn't make me blind to the realities of life, and what I have to
live with.  I'm certainly too smart to be a slave to dogma and propaganda,
even I can see that alot of it is simply an appeal to the basest human
emotions.  Politics is about winning hearts and minds.  How you do that is
not usually the main concern.  Frankly, I never should have replied to his
posts.  That would have been one more for me, and none for him.  My big
mouth gets ahead of me sometimes though...

>
>Of course it all adds people to each other's side, and then all you have is a
>bipolar conflict on a newsgroup. What does that solve? NOTHING!

	Depends which newsgroup.  This ain't it.

>This fight was started by non-skins, grown out of misconceptions about skins.

	We get a disproportionate number of those, don't we?

>
>SO....any Minnesota skins drink Grain Belt Premium? Goes down quick, comes up
>quicker. Good stuff. My pick o' the week....

	I'll have to ask the Hammers and Bound For Glory in St. Paul to
send me a batch.  Sounds like a good drunk.

Jason

-- 
Northern Hammer Skins


Article 5960 of alt.skinheads:
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In a previous article, davistev@cwis.isu.edu (DAVIS_STEVE_J) says:

>  Second I like living here in Pocatello, mainly because there is only 
>about 3% black and hispanic population.  Know what else the crime rate
>is about 1/4 of what it used to be when I lived in Yuma Az.

	My little corner of the world has less than 1% black population.  I
can walk around all day, take a bus, anything, without ever seeing a black
person, or any other ethnic minority for that matter.  Cross the river into
Ottawa, though, and it looks like Somalia.  I don't know ANYBODY in Ottawa
who like the Somalian refugees.  I have many non-racist friends, so you can't
use the old bias argument on me.  They're just not wanted here.  'Course, the
ARA'll tell ya different.

	Gee... I guess I do know a couple'o people who like 'em, in that case.

Jason
We lead the fight for freedom and for bread...
-- 
Northern Hammer Skins


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In a previous article, warren@vaccine.worlds.com (Warren Burstein) says:

>
>Sounds like more than shows up in this group.  Where else is it going
>on?

	Well, if yer got to know, it's usually distributed through personal
E-mail contacts.  I am personally in contact with people in Germany, the UK,
the US, and Australia via the InterNet.  It's a great organizational tool.
It's also a great forum for the exchange of ideas.  For all those who
don't take us seriously, and claim we have no organisation -- think again.

Weisse Macht!
Jason
-- 
Northern Hammer Skins


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From: al998@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Jason Smith)
Subject: Re: Racism in Utah
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In a previous article, jjbarney@vx9000.weber.edu (Joe Barney) says:

>Has anyone here ever visited Utah?  Have you been appalled by the racism that
>goes on here?  I have some stories that concern those issues if anyone is
>interested.  I can't wait to move back to California...this place SUCKS!

	By all means, go!
>
>				Joe
>

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Northern Hammer Skins


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Subject: Re: Black/White Power/Crime
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In a previous article,  (-ME-) says:

>blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.  whatever, kid.  i thought you
>had something new to say.  you've just proved my point of how idiotic and
>dumb all the bullshit you're spewing is.  i said all that racist bullshit
>to get a rise out of you, and it worked.  goes to show how stupid and
>moronic you are.  all this racist crap is gonna get you nowhere fast. 
>shit, all you spew is fucking insults and nothing factual or even
>interesting or new.  movement?  what movement?  all you're about is
>injuring and hurting people.  all you have is your hate-filled mind and one
>way ticket to hell.  enjoy the ride, jason of the hammer skins....

	Kid, eh?  I'm probably older'n your underwear.  Whether it was
new, or original isn't the point.  It was the truth.  Funny how many
people agreed with me, even the anti-racists.  Maybe you should get a
clue.  Of course you got a rise out of me, and I certainly don't go around
beating people for nothing anymore, but I can surely say that I'd like to
boot you a good one to the fucking head.  Now go post elsewhere, little
man.  This isn't the place.  Frankly, whether my racism is intellectual or
not; smart or not; rational or not; whether everything that comes out is
simply a rationalisation for my prejudices; they still exist, and there's
not a damn thing you can do about it.  As for the movement, don't speak of
something you know nothing of.  We are organised, and becoming moreso. 
Something which really scares alot of people.  Even Warren Kinsella warns
about it in Web of Hate, and most of his info was wrong...


 > >-ME- >
Fuck you.
-- 
Northern Hammer Skins


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From: al998@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Jason Smith)
Subject: Re: some advice
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In a previous article,  (-ME-) says:

>here's some advice for all you racist morons out there.  why don't youstart
>your own newsgroup and leave the skinheads to discuss better things instead
>of which one of you is dumber.  how about alt.my.parents.were.cousins or
>alt.cavedwellers or better yet alt.i.have.no.life.  this crap is ruining
>this group.  i'm sure the true skinheads will agree.  

	Well, then, leave you fuckhead.  It's only when people like you
come in and antagonise the groups with your idiotic ravings that we get back
on the subject of race.  Besides that, it has been agreed long ago that
this was not the forum for politics.  We usually keep to it, until some
foul-mouthed little worm like you comes along.  Quit posting, and you'll quit
getting replies.  Fuck off...

	Hey, Tigger, wanna field this one?


-- 
Northern Hammer Skins


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In a previous article,  (-ME-) says:

>hammers?  bound for glory? hahahahahahahahahahahaha
>you're so fucking funny!!!
>i can't believe you're still at it...
>hahahahhahahhhahahhahahahaha...

	 who wants to hit him first?  I'm not sure I'd want to,
considering what a spineless little fuck he is.  Why don't you try signing
your name to your posts?  At least I have the guts to.


-- 
Northern Hammer Skins


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In a previous article,  (-ME-) says:

>what are you gonna do, kick his ass?  typical white racist behavior!  i
>thought you guys were striving for some cause? and is this how you go about
>doing it?  being wild animals?  ha!  yeah, like i'm really gonna take you
>seriously!

	You poor sod.  Tigger's not even a racist.  Get your facts
straight before you spew your shit.  What I wouldn't give to meet you in a
dark alley...


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Northern Hammer Skins


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	Ok.  Let's see if I can start some completely irrelevant thread to
get discussion back on track.

	Batman: Mask of the Phantasm just came out on video here... it's a
must see for me!  Gotta rent it.  I love the dark imagery and Gothic style
in the cartoon.  Batman's sooooo cool.

	What else... I'm having a fit of depression.  Not that anybody
cares.  Skinflower's right -- relationships are overrated.  I think I'll
stick to meaningless sex with everyone I meet.  Try to be nice, try to be
respectful, then get drunk and fuck it all up.  I'm going to have to swear
off alcohol (again)...  I seem to have a problem with it.  Too bad.  I'll
go back to my old ways...  heheheh...

	Maybe I should post in different messages, that way, we get
several threads going!  Be right back...


-- 
Northern Hammer Skins


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	Ever seen anyone have so much fun goofing off?  Hell no! 
Incidentally, I'm also out of a job, because of my criminal record -- for
unlawful entry and assault causing bodily harm.    Can't wait for
probation to be up.  I've got responsabilities and bills to pay too.  How
can they expect you to get ahead, if they keep putting you down?  It's
even tougher for ex-cons.  Who wants to hire an ex-con.  Technically, I
guess I'm an ex-con, having served my sentence in December-January, but it
was only a month, reduced to 1/3rd...  Anyhow.  More mindless ramblings,
anyone?

	What's with women?  I don't get 'em.  They act like they want you,
then dump all over you.  Treat 'em with respect and kindness, and you get
shit on.  Treat 'em like shit, and they love you.  Problem is, I find
myself unable to do the latter.  Ah well, the mysteries of life...

	Just off on a tangent here; and no, I'm not trying to start a
political debate; but I've been keeping track of all the White Power folk
that post here, or to me personally.  Guess what... we're not such a
minority.  To now, I've counted 24 people in the past couple o' months. 
Not bad.  Unless you're anti-racist.  Then it's bad.  Just an observation
folks... no flames!

	Well, I'm off to go watch 'Another Stakeout.'  I'll let you know
how it ends...

	Actually, anybody seen 'Luna Park' yet?  It's playing in Montreal,
and it's about a Russian WP skin who finds out his dad's a Jew...  There's
a must see!

Loyalty above all else except honour

-- 
Northern Hammer Skins


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In a previous article, dmittleman@misvms.bpa.arizona.edu (Daniel Mittleman) says:

>    Actually, I find Jason to be an oxymoron.  
>
>    He seems to be a fairly articulate, witty and well read racist.  It is
>    very rare to come across such a combination.  I absolutely can't stand
>    his politics, but I enjoy reading his posts.  Go figure...

	Uh... thank you?  Actually, I laughed at that one.  'Twas good. 
If you must know, I regularly laugh at some of the barbs aimed my way. 
They are quite funny, regardless of who is the target.  And if you can't
laugh at yourself, who can you laugh at?!

	Incidentally, I must admit I have alot of respect for you as well.
 Who knows, under different circumstances, in a different time, we might
have been friends!

Jason
The Oxymoron

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In a previous article, bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein) says:

>
>From: al998@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Jason Smith)
>>	Well, believe it or not, some do take us seriously.  Perhaps because
>>they believe that if there ever is a resurgence, they'll be the first to go.
>
>Remember these (and similar) lines well next time Jason Smith and his
>fellow sociopaths begin screaming for their rights and fair play.

	Barry, you fool.  Learn to read.  Read the post over again, as
many times as you like.  Now, did I say that "my ilk" were going to rid
the world of all undesirables?  No...  What was said was that the people
who take us seriously _believe_ they'll be the first to go.  Quite a
difference, there, don't you think?  So what you're advocating is taking
away the rights of the right-wing to protect others?  Sounds like fascism
to me...

Jason
The Oxymoron

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In a previous article, bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein) says:

>Drop the oxy and you'd be a lot closer...

Ho ho!  Ha ha!  How can you be so jolly all the time?!  Your endless wit
never ceases to amaze me!  Where _do_ you come up with these witticisms? 
Do you have a staff writer?  I guess anybody with a name like Shein has to
have a sense of humour!!!

Jason
Bonehead extraordinaire and Oxymoron
all combined!  Write for your free kit today!

-- 
Northern Hammer Skins

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