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From: slepokuo@cadvision.com (Orest Slepokura)
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In article <57m5k4$51d@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com>,
roth1@ix.netcom.com(Moritz Rothschild) wrote:

> In <329E508A.7525@cs.anu.edu.au> Brendan McKay 
> writes: 
> >
> >GOLEM wrote:
> > 
> >> [*********PNEWS CONFERENCES************]
> >> From: Harold Rosen 
> >> 
> >>                     JONATHAN POLLARD: Prisoner in agony
> >> 
> >>     by Natasha Zwick
> >
> >Pollard has been eligible for parole for a year now but refuses to 
> >apply.  The failure of the article to mention that fact, combined 
> >with the many blatant lies it contains, marks it as nothing but a 
> >worthless dishonest diatribe.
> >
> >
> >Brendan.
> Unfortunately the article is true.  I am ashamed that the US can treat
> a person as they have treated Pollard.  The latest spy caught who
> really did vile and and outrageous things for the Soviet Union is now
> free on bond with his family enjoying Thanksgiving while Pollard who
> spied for a friend languishes in prison w/o hope.  There is no doubt in
> any but the worst antisemite that he deserves to be finally freed.

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That last sentence is baloney! 

Joseph diGenova was the lead prosecutor in the Pollard case and in an
op-ed piece in the New York Daily News ["Should Pollard go free?", Aug.
18, 1996] he makes it abundantly clear that Pollard did major, major,
major damage to U.S. interests.

DiGenova writes, moreover: "In 1984, Pollard agreed to a 10-year plan of
espionage against the U.S. for pay. He was to receive $540,000 [sic]
during the scheme."

Pollard didn't betray his country out some kind of misguided idealism. He
was in it to make a quick dollar, for filthy lucre--like Aldrich Ames and
other such dollar-hungry spies.

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From slepokuo@cadvision.com Thu Dec  5 09:25:51 PST 1996
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From: slepokuo@cadvision.com (Orest Slepokura)
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In article <329e91bd.27956@news.awinc.com>, klewis@awinc.com (Ken Lewis) wrote:

> On Wed, 27 Nov 1996 23:25:10 GMT, dkeren@world.std.com (Daniel Keren) wrote:
> 
> 
[snip...]

> >He said it in Zundel's trial. This is mentioned in the post
> >by Orest Slepokura, which I responded to. Can you read?
> 
> Shit. You should know by now, Danny, that Matt can't walk and chew gum at
> the same time.

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Here we have yet another egregious example of ableism. 

A dialogue, no less, between two ableists. 

This, when they *know* what the Nazis did to the infirm and the insane;
introduced with a bit of hairy-chested profanity, moreover...

...our culture is indeed weathering a kind of coarsening in public discourse.

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From slepokuo@cadvision.com Thu Dec  5 15:36:01 PST 1996
Article: 83947 of alt.revisionism
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From: slepokuo@cadvision.com (Orest Slepokura)
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Subject: Torture is Perfectly Legal in Israel
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   DISPATCHES by Lisa Beyer in Jerusalem [TIME, December 2, 1996, p. 18]

The Banality of Abuse

Perhaps the most disturbing aspect of the affair was what little
impression it made on the Palestinians. Last week Israel TV's Channel 1
broadcast excerpts from a videoclip, taken six weeks earlier by an amateur
photographer, of two Israeli border policemen repeatedly beating a group
of Palestinian detainees. The images were sickening, but so familiar to
Palestinians, who have endured many such abuses under Israeli occuptaion,
that they caused no uproar in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.  "This is the
daily behaviour of Israeli soldiers," said Rawya Shawa, a member of the
Palestinian Legislative Council.  "All the videocassettes in all the world
could not hold the pictures of humiliation inflicted on the Palestinians."

The photographer, moneychanger Azza Maraka, didn't think the footage
newsworthy until Bssem EId, director of the Palestinian Human Rights
Monitoring Group, convinced him that Israel TV would want the tape. Maraka
says that only a week before he had been beaten by the border police and
decided to periodically film their behaviour in a courtyard below his
apartment window. If Palestinians were unfazed by the footage, Israelis
were outraged. The offending cops, 19 and 20 years old, will almost
certainly face trial. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu called their acts
"immoral and criminal."  In a remarkable display of candour, other
officials acknowledged that such abuse is rampant within the border
police. The taped episode, said Yisrael Sadan, commander of the force, "is
not out of the ordinary."

Neither is it extraordinary for courts to sanction abuse of prisoners.
Israel's High Court recently authorized Shin Bet, the courtry's internal
security agency, to resume using "physical force," a euphemism for
torture, in the interrogation of Mohamed Hamadan, a Palestinian suspected
of links to an Islamist bombing plot. Hamadan's lawyer reports he has been
subjected to violent shaking, an abuse that last year resulted in the
death of an inmate due to brain damage. A few days later, in another case,
the High Court upheld Shin Bet's use of such "normal" interrogation
techniques as sleep deprivation and keeping an inmate's head in a sack
with his arms tied behind him. The most calculated legal insult came last
week in the case of four soldiers who in 1993 killed an 18-year-old
Palestinian at a West Bank checkpoint. An Israeli military court convicted
the soldiers of opening fire on the victim's car against regulations, but
sentenced them to only one hour in jail, which was suspended, and fined
them one agora--a third of a U.S. cent. "Such a judgment just shows how
cheap Palestinian life is under Israeli occupation," says Eid. "The
Israelis will never treat us as human beings."

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From slepokuo@cadvision.com Thu Dec  5 15:36:02 PST 1996
Article: 83948 of alt.revisionism
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From: slepokuo@cadvision.com (Orest Slepokura)
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Subject: Max Yalden is Ernst Zundel's latest publicist
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COMMENTARY: "Patrolling the Internet" 

[an excerpt from the Globe and Mail's Free Expression column by Anthony
Keller, Dec. 2, 1996]

...Many high-profile attempts to regulate speech on the Net are ultimately
self-defeating. When German officials tried to block the Ernst Zundel Web
site, which originates in the U.S., it was picked up and "mirrored" in
other places. Quarry outside a country's borders can be elusive. But in
cases where national laws accord - kiddie porn is almost universally
illegal - prosecution and shut-down could be swifter.

Neo-nazis and other racists are a more challenging case, because the
United States does not consider hate speech a crime. Maybe the Americans
are on to something. Consider: in the U.S., Mr. Zundel is an anonymous
crank. In Canada, he's a celebrity.

And Canada's favourite neo-Nazi is about to geteven more publicity. The
Canadian Human Rights Commission wants its crack at the California-based
Zundel Web site. Good luck. All these attempts to prosecute Mr. Zundel
only make things worse. How many readers would even have heard of the guy
if Canadian governments hadn't gone to the trouble of offering him a
decade's worth of courtroom soapboxes?

New technology, same old mistakes.

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From: slepokuo@cadvision.com (Orest Slepokura)
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Subject: The Politics of Torture in Israel
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                The Trauma of Palestine and The Search for Peace

"Those days they transported captured Jews in train cars, like the ones
used for cattle," said my driver. She went on telling me the story of her
mother: "My mother was captured in Yugoslavia during the war [World War
II]. The trip to Germany was long and there was no food. They arrived in
bad shape, then were made to walk to the concentration camp. There was one
particular moment that stuck in my mother's memory that affected her
profoundly: during their long march, two German women riding bicycles
stopped and gazed at them. They watched the row of living skeletons,
exhausted and debilitated, walking slowly, then rode away." My driver
turned and looked at me: "That's why I have come to Gaza. I decided long
ago not to be a cyclist who only looks on. I try to tell the people of
Israel what is going on in Gaza."

My driver was a journalist working for an Israeli newspaper as a Gaza
correspondent. She had kindly offered me a ride from Gaza to Tel Aviv, and
she was responding to to my question as to why she had decided to work in
Gaza.

Crossing from Gaza to Isral is like moving to a different world
altogether: Gaza's battered roads are full of potholes, some parts of them
flooded with sewage water, lined by the graffiti-covered walls of rundown
buildings and crowded with people, lots of people, everywhere (Gaza is one
of the most densely populated areas in the world, with more than 1,800
inhabitants per square mile). After crossing the border, you see Israel's
orderly roads and well-regulated environment, with people mostly waiting
at bus stops looking patiently at the trafic moving north, hoping to catch
a ride.

I asked the Israeli journalist whether the general public knew about their
government's policies and practices in Gaza. She replied that the Hebrew
press reportedly extensively on the Occupied Territories, and that all the
relevant facts were published. I wanted to make sure we were talking about
the same facts, so I briefly reviewed some of what I knew. "Yes, that has
all been reported," she replied. I asked whether there was any public
pressure to stop these human rights abuses. She explained how the public
was mostly concerned about security issues, and how polarization between
the two communities had made it difficult for the general public to focus
on the human rights aspects of Israeli policy.

My visit to the Palestinian territories was part of a Canadian aid project
managed by the Near East Cultural and Educational Foundation of Canada
(NECEF) and funded by Health and Welfare Canada. As a child psychiatrist,
my role was primarily to provide mental health training and consulatations
in Gaza and Jerusalem. I conducted training courses in clinical
assessment, play therapy and family therapy under the Gaza Community
Mental Health Program (GCMPH) and at the Palestinian Counselling Centre
(PCC) in Jerusalem. This was my third visit to Gaza and the West Bank. My
earlier visits had been funded by the Canadian International Development
Agency, and had focused on mental health training for Palestinian
front-line community workers. During my three visits I interviewed and/or
was consulted on more than one hundred and twenty cases.

Not wishing to be a "cyclist who only looks on" myself, I am obliged to
report what I saw in Gaza: the people are severely traumatized, and this
is felt at every level of society--the individual, the family and the
community. The effects of traumatization run so deep that it has become a
significant factor in the social and political dynamic process. Three
cases I assessed illustrate the severity of the trauma in Gazan society:

*The case of a six year old boy, Ali. Ali's mother told me what had
happened: "Around two years ago the [Israeli] soliders broke into our home
in the middle of the night. After breaking and destroying the furniture,
they ordered all of us to gather, stripped Abu Khalid (Ali's father) naked
and severely beat him in front of everyone. Then, they ordered him to act
like a donkey." (In Arab culture the donkey is characterized by
inferiority and stupidity.) Ever since, Ali has wet his bed and he does
not listen to us."

*The case of a five year old girl, Leila. Leila's home was blown up by the
Israeli army following allegations that her older brother had been active
in confronting the [Israeli] army on the streets. After that, the family
lived in a makeshift tent near their destroyed house. Every night Leila
could not go to sleep in the tent. Her family had to take her the ruins of
the house where she would fall asleep in the remains of her room.

*The case of a forty five year old father, Abu Amjad. As an ex-prisoner,
Abu Amjad compared his detention experience in the mid nineteen-seventies
with his detention in the early nineteen-nineties thus: "In my first
imprisonment they whipped us with metal whipcords. I remember the walls of
the prison stained with blood all over. After the Intifada I was
imprisoned again and they used the "refigerator." I could not sleep in it
for ten days at a time. I was losing my mind...I am prepared to be whipped
every day for the rest of my life, rather than endure the refrigerator for
a few days. It is an experience that makes you wish for death." (The
"refigerator," known to some as the "coffin," is a small size container
which is cooled to a low temperature that prevents a person from sleeping.
Some accounts mention "spikes" on the inner walls that force prolonged
periods of motionless and painful confinement.)

Ibtihaj, Abu Amjad's nineteen year old daughter, complained that her
father's "personality" had changed after he was released from prison (the
second time): "He used to be a patient man. Now he has a bad temper. He is
confused. He does not want to do anything. He does not talk like he used
to. Everyone (in the family) is afraid of him. It's a difficult problem
for us."

These examples, I discovered within days of working in Gaza, were not
isolated incidents; rather, they represent common practices, along with
others, inflicted upon the community.

How common were these practices? I have not done research on this question
myself, but others have. Here are some results of their research: CCMHP
conducted a survey in 1992 in violence-related trauma among child aged
eight to fifteen. It revealed the following grim picture: 85% of the
children interviewed had experienced night raids and 55% had witnessed the
beating of a family member; 42% of the children had been beaten by
soldiers (5% had suffered bone fractures as a result); 24% had been hit by
ammunition, including rubber-coated bullets; 92% had suffered the effects
of tear gas; 50% had been subjected to humiliation; 19% had been detained
for short periods; 2% had been imprisoned and 2% had had their homes
demolished. These numbers are staggering, especially when it is taken into
account that this was a randomized sample of more than 1,500 children from
the community at large. With an estimated 160,000 Gazan children between
the ages of eight and fifteen (another estimated 160,000 were under the
age of eight), the actual number of children subjected to these practices
is very high.

Other studies reported comparable findings: the United Nations Relief and
Works Agency (UNRWA) reported that from December 1987 to April 1994,
83,000 Palestinians had been treated medically for injuries inflicted by
the Israeli army or by settlers. 37% of these casualties were children
under the age of fifteen. Over half were the result of beatings, and a
quarter resulted from gunfire. This does not include injuries treated at
home or those sustained under Israeli detention.

Not all of the children survived this violence: The Save the Children Fund
and the Jerusalem-based Palestine Human Rights Information Centre (PHRIC)
in a joint study reported that more than three hundred children aged
sixteen or under had been fatally injured by gunfire between December 1987
and January 1994. Another thirty-eight children, almost all of whom three
years and younger, had been asphyxiated by super-toxic tear gas.

As for the maltreatment of prisoners, B'Tselem, an Israeli human rights
organization, issued a report on torture in which it listed the methods
used: sleep deprivation; food deprivation; "hooding," that is, covering
the head with a sac (often fouled with nauseating odours, sometimes wet)
for several hours on end; being tied-up for long periods (as long as 36
hours) in deliberately painful positions (for example, the "banana" tie
where the body is bent backwards, with ones [sic] hands tied to his legs)
or--the standard technique for nearly all detainees--"alshbah" (being
tied, with the hands bound over the head, sometimes to a wall attachment,
for hours or even days); cold showers and enforced sitting on wet floor
for prolonged periods; the use of violence, such as severe beatings with
the fists on all parts of the body, sticks and other instruments (as a
direct result of the beatings many lost consciousness and/or had to be
treated in hospitals); verbal insults and abuses; threats of harm to the
detainee or his family members. B'Tselem goes on to say that these
techniques are "usually used in combination."

Al-Haq and the Palestinian Human Rights Information Centre (PHRIC), both
of which are Palestinian human rights organizations, reported the use of
electric shock, sexual assaults and threats of rape of the victim and his
or her mother or sister, as techniques used during interrogations. Females
reported threats of sexual more frequently than boys or men.

Human rights organizations estimate that tens of thousands of adults and
children under the age of fifteen have been imprisoned and tortured. The
reports indicate that fourteen to eighteen days of imprisonment often pass
before a relative is notified or a representative from the Red Cross or a
lawyer is allowed to visit the detainee. It is also worth noting that none
of the ex-detainees interviewed by B'Tselem had been charged with a
serious crime, a quarter never charged at all.

In addition to reciting human rights organizations findings, the Hebrew
Press has had its own reporting on the issue of human rights abuses in the
Palestinian Territories. For example, in February 1992, Israeli journalist
Doron Meeri reported in 'Hadashot' a re-examination of testimonies from
eight Palestinians about the use of electric shock during interrogation.
Later Meeri reported about the "plain horror" of the practices carried out
by an [Israeli] interrogation squad in Hebron.

B'Tselem, Al-Haq, PHRIC, Boston-based Physicians for Human Rights and the
Public Committee Against Torture in Israel have amply documented the
nature of the methods used by Israeli authorities during interogations and
described those methods as standard or routine. Amnesty International, in
a July 1991 report,stated: "Torture or ill treatment seem to be virtually
institutionalized
during the arrest and interrogation procedures preceding the detainees'
appearance before a milityary court. The practices relating in particular
to interrogation procedures have been officially endorsed and are
generally condoned, and therefore effectively encouraged by the
authorities." Other sources of trauma include assassinations (of
Palestinian activists by Israeli undercover units, and of alleged
Palestinian "collaborators" by Palestinians), land confiscations, house
demolitions, deportations and economic barriers.

Another important question, especially from functional and prognostic
standspoints, is the effects such trauamatic circumstances have on the
individual, the family and the community. In psychiatry (on an individual
level) this is referred to as "post traumatic stress disorder," and is
regarded as a diagnosable mental condition. In my clinical work in Gaza I
found methods of maltreatment in prisons and detention centres of
particular importance. What emerged from listening to the histories of the
ex-prisoners I interviwed was a remarkable consistency in their
descriptions of what was done to them, and, the effects this had on them,
and, from interviews with their families, the effects it had on the family
unit.

A closer examination of what a prisoner goes through--whether it is food
or sleep deprivation, chronic pain or discomfort, suffocation (the use of
"hooding"), violence, humiliation or other psychological
maltreatment--reveals a common characteristic in the methods used. They
all contribute to an inner breakdown in the person's ability to cope,
tolerate frustrating emotions and maintain the ability to function as a
self-reliant person. Basically, these methods take away esteem and plant
in its place terror and frustration. The result is the loss of ability to
work productively; sudden violent rages; (yes, there has been a serious
rise in family violence since the Intifada began); loss of ability to
socialize; sudden, frightening flashbacks and nightmares, and chronic
depression.

As for teenagers, the effects are more damaging: five detainees I
examined, who had been tortured during their adolescence, developed a
psychotic schizophrenia-like illness (this is basically loss of touch with
reality and usually a serious disintegration in the personality
structure). It is possible that these individuals would have developed
this illness anyway (after all, 1% of any population is expected to have
this disorder).However, from the clinical
histories I gathered, there was evidence that suggests that these
individuals'illnesses were closely related to the extreme experiences they
had gone through during detention. It may well be that the Israeli
interrogators have created the "right" circumstances for schizophrenia to
develop. Maybe some researchers would find this interesting from an
academic standpoint.

Nor suprisingly, the effects of traumatic circumstances on children's
mental health, functional abilities and overall development are serious.
Research carried out suggests that about 50% of the children of Gaza
suffer anxiety problems, and 25% suffer from depression. Behavioral,
academic, social and medical dificulties are widespread; some, such as
bed-wetting, are at an epidemic level.

What complicates the picture further is that the Palestian family is in
deep crisis. Stressed-out mothers, poor resources and conflicting,
frustrated and often violent interactions within the family, and more
broadly within the community , have all diminished the family's ability to
provide support and attention that are necessary for healing. This has
happened in a culture that traditionally values child rearing and family
building.

Friends of Israel may find it hard to accept the wrongs described in this
article. But, if peace is to be realized, both adversaries in this
conflict will have to translate their desire for peace into a sensible
scrutiny of their of their traditional positions. From the Israeli side of
this equation, reactions to Palestinian violence against Israel will
hopefully not stop at shock, bereavement and anger, but be extended to a
recognition of an underlying causality that may facilitate reconciliation
between the two communities. On the Palestinian side, there needs to be a
chanelling of anger into constructive energy that can provide from within
an attempt at making peace, not only with the Israelis, but also with
their painful past. The fact is that real peace in the Middle East
requires a search for effective solutions to serious problems. This
entails looking to the origins of these problems. Only then can there be
peace that is not only portrayed through signed agreements, but, more
importantly, peace that includes non-violent conexistence as a basic
ingredient.

The fact is that the Palestinian comunity is severely traumatized,
individual by individual--hundreds of thousands of individuals. This
traumatization is multi-faceted, multi-layered, chronic and severe. Ali,
Leila and Abu Amjad all carry scars that will be a powerful influence in
their lives and their futures. Their healing is essential for peace, but
how can healing be achieved for them, and for Palestine?

My view is that this will require persistent efforts and favourable
conditions, and that it will be a challenge, not only for Palestinians
themselves, but also for their partners in the peace process.

To begin with, Ali, Leila and Abu Amjad will have to feel secure in their
homes and community, proud of belonging to their Palestinian nation. That
is where the process of change will have to start: in effect, they must
feel that they belong to a nation with a unique experience, a nation of
victims that struggles to obtain its basic sense of pride and well-being.
It must be recognized that the problem with pride stems from the loss of
land, and that the lack of well-being comes from the community's inability
to protect itself or its individual members. This, in my opinion, is the
first requirement for healing: to regain a collective group identity that
includes pride, security and hope. Structurally speaking, this means
independent statehood, with democratic institutions that can protect Ali,
Leila and Abu Amjad and their rights, and facilitate their productive and
healthy growth through a rehabilitation and rebuilding process.

Achieving national rights will give them a sense of pride. Ensuring human
rights will allow them to feel secure and valued. Democracy will give them
confidence, esteem and empowerment through participation. Rehabilitation
and rebuilding, and the economic prosperity that may follow, will give
them hope for a better life. These, I believe, are the requirements for
their healing, and Palestine's healing. But all this cannot be
accomplished without the partners in peace having an agenda with these
clear objectives in mind.

Within this context, they, like other individuals anywhere, will have
specific needs that have to be met through civic planning and social and
economic policy. Health (including mental health), education, employment
and housing are areas that can benefit from technical and financial
support from Western democracies, including Canada. Needless to say,
meeting these needs will also be important to the healing process.

In a way, we can not afford to fail. The alternative to healing is the
continuation, and possibly the growth, of a culture of despair, a fertile
ground for extremism. The cycle of violence that may result would be
tragic for all.

[end of article]

                                      Dr. Sameh Hassan, The NECEF Report
                                      Fall 1995 Newsletter, pp. 7 - 11

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From slepokuo@cadvision.com Sat Dec  7 09:54:51 PST 1996
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From: slepokuo@cadvision.com (Orest Slepokura)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Israeli Court Values Palestinian Life at One-Third of a Cent
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In article <19961204224400.RAA10695@ladder01.news.aol.com>, ivanpv@aol.com
wrote:

>               Mr. Michael P. Stein,  mstein@access5.digex.net, in article 
> <57ijsd$6f8@access5.digex.net>
> sees no relationship between the Israeli policy of dehumanizing the
> Palestinians and the Holocaust  and holds that the Israeli issue should
> not be discussed in alt.revisionism.  He writes:
> 
> >However, Matt Giwer has told us that we must stay on topic, so we will
> >have to move this discussion elsewhere.  Followups set to
> >talk.politics.mideast.

[snip]

>         It should be emphasized that defenders of Holocaust orthodoxy do
> not allow for a detached discussion of the event. Holocaust proponents,
> such as Diane Lipstadt,  certainly diverge  from  the specifics of
> Holocaust revisionism and go into alleged evil motives of revisionists and
> the purportedly dastardly consequences stemming from such thinking. 
> Holocaust proponents portray  revisionists as purveyors of hate--racism,
> bigotry.  It is to  prevent the triumph of hatred that open discussion of
> the Holocaust is to be prohibited.  Instead of debate,  revisionism in all
> its guises must be suppressed.
> 
>         In contrast, the defenders of Holocaust orthodoxy-- at Nizkor, the
> Wiesenthal Museum of "Tolerance"-- claim  that Holocaust study leads to
> the most beneficent consequences:   tolerance, compassion, democracy,
> freedom, peace.  However, a  look at the activities of the Israeli
> government and Israeli Jews shows that none of these benign consequences
> derive from  Holocaust belief.  Presumably, Israeli Jews believe in the
> Holocaust but they support "pre-emptive" war, colonial occupation,
> flagrant inequality, torture, suppression of other peoples, and the
> possession (and threat to use) nuclear weapons.  Zionist dehumanization of
> Palestinians was epitomized in the  Israeli court's valuing of a
> Palestinian's life at one-third of a cent.  Instead of  making Israeli
> Jews more humane, the belief in the Holocaust  has had the opposite
> effect, providing  the justification for  inhumanity. (Tom Segev in "The
> Seventh Million" goes over this issue.)  From the perspective of the
> Holocaust, nothing that Israel has done (or could possibly do) to the
> Palestinians could ever equal the ultimate evil of the Holocaust.   As the
> ultimate victims, Israeli Jews are morally justified in engaging  in any
> type of oppressive action under the guise of preventing another Holocaust.
> 

[snip]


>         Finally, it is the Holocaust that has provided the moral
> justification for American support for Israel.  And support for Israel has
> meant support for Israel's brutal treatment of the Palestinians.  And, of
> course, such support could involve the U.S. in a major war.  In sum,
> contrary to Mr. Stein's thinking, the Holocaust and Israel are
> inextricably related. 
==============================================================================


Some Jews want to make political hay out of the Holocaust. 

The late Menachem Begin was a typical example of such an attitude. Even as
the IDF was committing atrocity after atrocity in Lebanon in 1982 the
little shouter never missed the opportunity to use the Holocaust as an
excuse to bomb Lebanese and Palestinian civilians into the Stone Age. As
Ivan rightly indictated, Israeli author Tom Seguev noted this sordid
proclivity of Begin's in his book The Seventh Million.

Other Jews just want to make a buck off the Holocaust. As Britain's
formerly chief rabbi, Lord Immanuel Jakobovits once wryly observed [The
Jerusalem Post, Nov. 26, 1987], the "Holocaust" has been turned into a
"big business industry" that's made fat profits for some rabbis and
writers and many others. In fact, many Holocaust Lobbyists make a handsome
living reminding gentiles of how the Holocaust has some valuable lessons
for them to learn, about, say, tolerance, goodwill, and whatnot. 

At the same time the little futzers will do their very damnest to make
sure that the very routine stories regarding Jewish atrocities against
Palestinian civilians (and others) be downplayed or ignored (Elie Wiesel,
the Nobel Peace prize laureate, for instance, is on record as saying that
he "will never, ever, criticize Israel," no matter what it does). 

Another case in point is the grotesque hypocrisy of many Jews; for
example: When the South African prime minister John Vorster paid an
official visit to Israel in April 1976, it included a tour of Yad Vashem,
the holy of holies of Holocaust remembrance, where the late Yitzhak Rabin
(now widely regarded as a certified icon of the so-called "peace process")
and many other very high-ranking Jewish dignitaries invited the onetime
Nazi collaborator and implacable White supremacist to pay homage to the
victims of the Holocaust.

A pathetic episode that was treated as though it was in no way unremarkable.

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From slepokuo@cadvision.com Sun Dec  8 12:02:25 PST 1996
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From: slepokuo@cadvision.com (Orest Slepokura)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Racism and Apartheid in Israel
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MID-EAST REALITIES - LIE OF THE WEEK

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ISRAELI POLICIES NOW EVEN MORE OPENLY RACIST AND APARTHEID-LIKE

The greatest differences between the Israeli Labor and Likud parties are
stylistic. Even so the current marginally competent Palestinian
"leadership" remains easily taken in by the Good Cop/Bad Cop routines of
Israeli public relations. Having agreed for self-serving reasons to Oslo
terms that were closer to surrender than accommodation, those who continue
to follow Yasser Arafat have little to offer but hopes that a return to
Labor in the future will result in seriously new policies. But this is a
fraudulent and deceptive hope not grounded in history or reality; moreover
it is a hoax upon the Palestinian people by some of their own.

A few days ago, while touring Israeli settlements in the occupied West
Bank, the current Israeli Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, had the
following to say:

"PEOPLE HAVEN'T LIVED HERE FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS. LOOK AT THESE HILLS.
HAVE WE DEPRIVED ANYONE OF ANYTHING? BARREN LAND. YOU KNOW WHAT, IF WE
HADN'T COME HERE IT WOULD HAVE STAYED BARREN LAND FOR ANOTHER 2,000
YEARS."

True, Labor uses different rhetoric and tries to hide its real intentions
of forcing the Palestinians into living on the equivalent of Reservations
and Bantustans. But the larger reality is that this policy of settlements
was instigated by the Israeli Labor party in the form of the "Allon Plan",
the colonization of the crucial greater Jerusalem area was pursued even
more vigorously by Labor than Likud, and the intention of both mainstream
Zionist parties is to use "Jews-only" roads, concepts like "autonomy" and
"self-rule", and the equivalent of color-coded "pass laws" to
disenfrancise the Palestinians from the great majority of the area called
the West Bank and covered by numerous U.N. resolutions including #242.

------------ MERLOW 12/2/96 --------------- 

More information from MID-EAST REALITIES and 
THE COMMITTEE ON THE MIDDLE EAST can be
found at WWW.MIDDLEEAST.ORG.

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In article <59pgvn$13e2$1@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>, ncrccjc@ibm.net (Bernie
Farber) wrote:

> Annie Alpert  wrote:
> >Marc Lemire wrote:
> >>
> >>         ***** FREEDOM ALERT ***** FREEDOM ALERT ***** FREEDOM ALERT *****
> >>
> >>                                 _RADIO FREEDOM_
> >>                         http://www.ftcnet.com/~freedom
> >>
> >> Insightful commentary and thought provoking news
> 
> Bernie Farber responds:
> 
> Recently, B'nai Brith's league for Human Rights, suggested that as as
result of
> Peel schoollboard teacher, Paul Fromm's continuous dalliances with white
supremacists,
> neo-nazis and other such lovely people, Peel directors should invoke
there earlier warning
> to him (FROMM), and fire him from his teaching position.
> 
> For those who still wonder about "Fromm's Friends" just grab a listen to
>>>>RADIO FREEDOM<<<.
> There for everyone to see and hear is Mr. Fromm along with such "WHITE"
luminaries as:
> Wolfgang Droege...Heritage Front
> Joy Berke................  "            "
> Kevin Strom............neo-nazi host of "American Dissidents"
> Max French....HF
> Gerry Lincoln..HF
> Ernst Zundel
> 
> amongst others.
> 
> So you see it it walks like a duck.........

==============================================================================

Bernie Farber demonstrates a touching faith in the utterances of B'nai
B'rith Canada. However, it's not as if BBC was batting a thousand. It
*has* made some egregious errors in judgement in recent years. He should
perhaps be a bit more circumspect, not be so rash in jumping to
conclusions. After all, Mr. Fromm might be the libertarian rose among all
those needling thorns in Mr. Farber's side.

For example, while running for Parliament on the Tory ticket in the '84
federal election, Winnipeg schoolteacher Luba Fedorkiw was rudely suprised
to learn that B'nai B'rith Canada had circulated an internal memo which
accused her of "Jew-baiting." The allegation was then repeated in the
Winnipeg Sun; and the resulting defamation cost her the election. 

Mrs. Fedorkiw sued B'nai B'rith Canada for libel and she was finally
awarded $175,000 in actual damages and $225,000 in punitive damages
against BBC. The jury found that the charges of anti-Semitism were
unfounded and malicious. [See "B'nai B'rith guilty of libel, jury finds;
$400,000 awarded in damages," David Roberts, The Winnipeg Free Press, Nov.
26, 1987].

More recently, a number of very respected ethnic organizations took Frank
Dimant, BBC's executive vice president, to task for the bigoted
anti-Slavic remarks he included in his March 15, 1994 article in the
Toronto Star. Mr. Dimant--outrageously--had suggested that a rise in the
number of anti-Semitic incidents in Canada was "perhaps ... because many
Canadians have familial links with eastern Europe."  

A joint statement issued by the Canadian Polish Congress and the Ukrainian
Canadian Congress, as well as the Estonian Central Council in Canada and
the Lithuanian Canadian Community, on April 6, 1994 denounced Mr. Dimant's
views as being nothing less than "an abhorrent manifestation of racism..."

Mind you, BBC is no stranger to racists and racism. A Gerald Caplan column
in the Toronto Star in 1990 ["Mindless cheerleaders for Israel?", May 13,
1990] included a reference to a BBC delegation "of 20 Jewish leaders from
across Canada" going to pay "homage at a Jewish settlement in the occupied
West Bank that had been founded by Rabbi Moshe Levinger. Levinger, a
fanatical leader of Israel's Jewish settler movement and a bigot who calls
Arabs 'dogs,' was just convicted killing an unarmed, unthreatening
Palestinian shopkeeper." 

Perhaps, B'nai B'rith Canada ought to be a tad more careful about some of
the company *it* keeps.

So you see if it quacks like a duck...

Orest Slepokura

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From slepokuo@cadvision.com Wed Dec 25 15:50:22 PST 1996
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In article <32BD9930.7B25@sympatico.ca>, roberts@sympatico.ca wrote:

[snip]

> Now, why in hell is Baton Broadcasting with its "Sunday Edition"
> program hosted by Mike Duffy giving this separatist and feminazi [Josée
Legault] > a weekly forum on national TV? I assume that this program is
> carried by most CTV channels across Canada. This whole thing is obscene.

=============================================================================

Look, there's a lot of old FLQ terrorists that have been recycled and are
now gainfully employed by Quebec's PD government, which many would argue
is outrageous, if not obscene. But that kind of thing's normal in a
dysfunctional country like Canada. 

I see "Sunday Edition" has also been infected by our prevailing Canadian
zeitgeist. Here the abnormal and the unusual are quite normal and usual. 

So, Legault gets to air her off-the-wall opinions on TV week after week.
Since I don't take her or Mike Duffy or the show "Sunday Edition" too
seriously, I quite look forward to hearing her voice some off-the-wall
commentaries. They make laugh, which improves my digestion. What can I
say? She's good for a laugh. She's also fun to watch; she has a kind of
pixie-ish quality, an early Shirley Maclaine aura about her.

===============================================================================
>

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From: slepokuo@cadvision.com (Orest Slepokura)
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   DISPATCHES by Lisa Beyer in Jerusalem [TIME, December 2, 1996, p. 18]

   The Banality of Abuse


Perhaps the most disturbing aspect of the affair was what little
impression it made on the Palestinians. Last week Israel TV's Channel 1
broadcast excerpts from a videoclip, taken six weeks earlier by an amateur
photographer, of two Israeli border policemen repeatedly beating a group
of Palestinian detainees. The images were sickening, but so familiar to
Palestinians, who have endured many such abuses under Israeli occuptaion,
that they caused no uproar in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.  "This is the
daily behaviour of Israeli soldiers," said Rawya Shawa, a member of the
Palestinian Legislative Council.  "All the videocassettes in all the world
could not hold the pictures of humiliation inflicted on the Palestinians."

The photographer, moneychanger Azza Maraka, didn't think the footage
newsworthy until Bssem EId, director of the Palestinian Human Rights
Monitoring Group, convinced him that Israel TV would want the tape. Maraka
says that only a week before he had been beaten by the border police and
decided to periodically film their behaviour in a courtyard below his
apartment window. If Palestinians were unfazed by the footage, Israelis
were outraged. The offending cops, 19 and 20 years old, will almost
certainly face trial. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu called their acts
"immoral and criminal."  In a remarkable display of candour, other
officials acknowledged that such abuse is rampant within the border
police. The taped episode, said Yisrael Sadan, commander of the force, "is
not out of the ordinary."

Neither is it extraordinary for courts to sanction abuse of prisoners.
Israel's High Court recently authorized Shin Bet, the courtry's internal
security agency, to resume using "physical force," a euphemism for
torture, in the interrogation of Mohamed Hamadan, a Palestinian suspected
of links to an Islamist bombing plot. Hamadan's lawyer reports he has been
subjected to violent shaking, an abuse that last year resulted in the
death of an inmate due to brain damage. A few days later, in another case,
the High Court upheld Shin Bet's use of such "normal" interrogation
techniques as sleep deprivation and keeping an inmate's head in a sack
with his arms tied behind him. The most calculated legal insult came last
week in the case of four soldiers who in 1993 killed an 18-year-old
Palestinian at a West Bank checkpoint. An Israeli military court convicted
the soldiers of opening fire on the victim's car against regulations, but
sentenced them to only one hour in jail, which was suspended, and fined
them one agora--a third of a U.S. cent. "Such a judgment just shows how
cheap Palestinian life is under Israeli occupation," says Eid. "The
Israelis will never treat us as human beings."

       ================================ END ==========================

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In article , vtailor@ibm.net wrote:

[snip]

> Rest assured that Israelis are willing to harrass and persecute Jews 
> visiting Israel who they know are in disagreement with their policies.
> I speak from personal experience as an unwelcome Jewish tourist.
> 

=============================================================================

So what you're saying is (if I understand correctly), that the Israelis
are equally-opportunity human rights offenders... 

This willingness by Israeli authorities to "harrass [sic] and persecute
Jews" that you speak of, does it also include practices commonly referred
to as plain old torture?

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In article <59p6j5$84c@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>, rbp233@primenet.com wrote:

> >> :-( 
>
>==============================================================================
> 
> >I guess what you're saying is that everything, even torture, is
relative, eh? 
> 
>     No, I only assert that it is hypocrisy to condemn a democratic
> state with a democraticially elected government for trying to find
> some way to balance  their belief in 'legalities' with the real need
> to deal with terrorism (and they did this by trying to provide legal
> guidelines  for when force could be used to question suspects)--while
> not condemning the very real use of torture in the inhuman regimes in
> Iraq, Syria, etc. In those places they wiil cut off your index finger
> just for starters, and then take an eye (or two). This is not uncommon
> in Iraqi jails.  They will also use poison gas on their own subjects
> (ask the Kurds).
>      But there are no loud protests against this. The lives of Kurds,
> black Sudanese, Copts, Druze, Berbers, etc. are all worth much less in
> the eyes of this world than the poor Palestinians, that's for sure. 

===============================================================================

I gather from what you wrote up above that you feel it was "hypocrisy" (to
use your own word) for TIME magazine, whose article I merely re-published,
to have written anything critical of Israel, given that Israel is (again
to borrow your words) a so-called "democratic state" (recall that
communist East Germany also pompously billed itself as the "German
Democratic Republic"). 

Like pre-Mandela South Africa, Israel is an apartheid state, a racist
regime, as Uri Davis thoroughly demonstrated in his book *Israel: An
Apartheid State* [London, Zed Books Ltd., 1987], and anything but truly
democratic. 

Many of its keys institutions are reserved exclusively for Jews; for
example, 90% of Israel's territory has been legally defined as land which
can be leased and cultivated only by Jews. It's not just torture, but
racism, too, that is also perfectly legal in Israel.

As for "hypocrisy," which I gather you feel is a very bad thing, consider
the following two diplomatic episodes in tandem: 

When the South African prime minister, John Vorster paid an official visit
to Israel in April 1976 it naturally included a tour of Yad Vashem, the
Holocaust museum, where the late Yitzhak Rabin and other high-ranking
Jewish dignitaries invited the onetime Nazi collaborator and implacable
White supremacist to pay homage to the victims of the Holocaust. Compared,
say, to the vociferous Jewish protest that erupted both in Israel and the
U.S., after it was disclosed in August 1979 that America's UN ambassador,
Andrew Young, had been meeting secretly and speaking privately with the
PLO's UN representative, no less remarkable was the calm equanimity both
Israeli and American Jews displayed toward the Vorster visit. "[T]here
were no loud protests against this" either. 

Different strokes for different folks, I guess.

The dénouement to the Vorster visit was described in Andrew and Leslie
Cockburn's 1991 bestseller *Dangerous Liaison* [Stoddart Publishing,
Toronto, pp. 299-300]: "The old Nazi sympathizer came away with bilateral
agreements for commercial, military, and nuclear cooperation that would
become the basis for future relations between the two countries." Of the
nuclear cooperation between the Jewish state and South Africa's apartheid
regime, the former Mossad agent, Victor Ostrovsky, has written [By Way of
Deception, Stoddart Publishing, Toronto, 1990, p. 151]: "We worked hand in
hand with them for years." 

Birds of a feather flock together, I guess.

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   DISPATCHES by Lisa Beyer in Jerusalem [TIME, December 2, 1996, p. 18]

   The Banality of Abuse


Perhaps the most disturbing aspect of the affair was what little
impression it made on the Palestinians. Last week Israel TV's Channel 1
broadcast excerpts from a videoclip, taken six weeks earlier by an amateur
photographer, of two Israeli border policemen repeatedly beating a group
of Palestinian detainees. The images were sickening, but so familiar to
Palestinians, who have endured many such abuses under Israeli occuptaion,
that they caused no uproar in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.  "This is the
daily behaviour of Israeli soldiers," said Rawya Shawa, a member of the
Palestinian Legislative Council.  "All the videocassettes in all the world
could not hold the pictures of humiliation inflicted on the Palestinians."

The photographer, moneychanger Azza Maraka, didn't think the footage
newsworthy until Bssem EId, director of the Palestinian Human Rights
Monitoring Group, convinced him that Israel TV would want the tape. Maraka
says that only a week before he had been beaten by the border police and
decided to periodically film their behaviour in a courtyard below his
apartment window. If Palestinians were unfazed by the footage, Israelis
were outraged. The offending cops, 19 and 20 years old, will almost
certainly face trial. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu called their acts
"immoral and criminal."  In a remarkable display of candour, other
officials acknowledged that such abuse is rampant within the border
police. The taped episode, said Yisrael Sadan, commander of the force, "is
not out of the ordinary."

Neither is it extraordinary for courts to sanction abuse of prisoners.
Israel's High Court recently authorized Shin Bet, the courtry's internal
security agency, to resume using "physical force," a euphemism for
torture, in the interrogation of Mohamed Hamadan, a Palestinian suspected
of links to an Islamist bombing plot. Hamadan's lawyer reports he has been
subjected to violent shaking, an abuse that last year resulted in the
death of an inmate due to brain damage. A few days later, in another case,
the High Court upheld Shin Bet's use of such "normal" interrogation
techniques as sleep deprivation and keeping an inmate's head in a sack
with his arms tied behind him. The most calculated legal insult came last
week in the case of four soldiers who in 1993 killed an 18-year-old
Palestinian at a West Bank checkpoint. An Israeli military court convicted
the soldiers of opening fire on the victim's car against regulations, but
sentenced them to only one hour in jail, which was suspended, and fined
them one agora--a third of a U.S. cent. "Such a judgment just shows how
cheap Palestinian life is under Israeli occupation," says Eid. "The
Israelis will never treat us as human beings."

       ================================ END ==========================

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In article , vtailor@ibm.net wrote:

[snip]

> Rest assured that Israelis are willing to harrass and persecute Jews 
> visiting Israel who they know are in disagreement with their policies.
> I speak from personal experience as an unwelcome Jewish tourist.
> 

=============================================================================

So what you're saying is (if I understand correctly), that the Israelis
are equally-opportunity human rights offenders... 

This willingness by Israeli authorities to "harrass [sic] and persecute
Jews" that you speak of, does it also include practices commonly referred
to as plain old torture?

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In article <59p6j5$84c@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>, rbp233@primenet.com wrote:

> >> :-( 
>
>==============================================================================
> 
> >I guess what you're saying is that everything, even torture, is
relative, eh? 
> 
>     No, I only assert that it is hypocrisy to condemn a democratic
> state with a democraticially elected government for trying to find
> some way to balance  their belief in 'legalities' with the real need
> to deal with terrorism (and they did this by trying to provide legal
> guidelines  for when force could be used to question suspects)--while
> not condemning the very real use of torture in the inhuman regimes in
> Iraq, Syria, etc. In those places they wiil cut off your index finger
> just for starters, and then take an eye (or two). This is not uncommon
> in Iraqi jails.  They will also use poison gas on their own subjects
> (ask the Kurds).
>      But there are no loud protests against this. The lives of Kurds,
> black Sudanese, Copts, Druze, Berbers, etc. are all worth much less in
> the eyes of this world than the poor Palestinians, that's for sure. 

===============================================================================

I gather from what you wrote up above that you feel it was "hypocrisy" (to
use your own word) for TIME magazine, whose article I merely re-published,
to have written anything critical of Israel, given that Israel is (again
to borrow your words) a so-called "democratic state" (recall that
communist East Germany also pompously billed itself as the "German
Democratic Republic"). 

Like pre-Mandela South Africa, Israel is an apartheid state, a racist
regime, as Uri Davis thoroughly demonstrated in his book *Israel: An
Apartheid State* [London, Zed Books Ltd., 1987], and anything but truly
democratic. 

Many of its keys institutions are reserved exclusively for Jews; for
example, 90% of Israel's territory has been legally defined as land which
can be leased and cultivated only by Jews. It's not just torture, but
racism, too, that is also perfectly legal in Israel.

As for "hypocrisy," which I gather you feel is a very bad thing, consider
the following two diplomatic episodes in tandem: 

When the South African prime minister, John Vorster paid an official visit
to Israel in April 1976 it naturally included a tour of Yad Vashem, the
Holocaust museum, where the late Yitzhak Rabin and other high-ranking
Jewish dignitaries invited the onetime Nazi collaborator and implacable
White supremacist to pay homage to the victims of the Holocaust. Compared,
say, to the vociferous Jewish protest that erupted both in Israel and the
U.S., after it was disclosed in August 1979 that America's UN ambassador,
Andrew Young, had been meeting secretly and speaking privately with the
PLO's UN representative, no less remarkable was the calm equanimity both
Israeli and American Jews displayed toward the Vorster visit. "[T]here
were no loud protests against this" either. 

Different strokes for different folks, I guess.

The dénouement to the Vorster visit was described in Andrew and Leslie
Cockburn's 1991 bestseller *Dangerous Liaison* [Stoddart Publishing,
Toronto, pp. 299-300]: "The old Nazi sympathizer came away with bilateral
agreements for commercial, military, and nuclear cooperation that would
become the basis for future relations between the two countries." Of the
nuclear cooperation between the Jewish state and South Africa's apartheid
regime, the former Mossad agent, Victor Ostrovsky, has written [By Way of
Deception, Stoddart Publishing, Toronto, 1990, p. 151]: "We worked hand in
hand with them for years." 

Birds of a feather flock together, I guess.

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In article <59mfkm$57c@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>, rbp233@primenet.com wrote:

> >Perhaps the most disturbing aspect of the affair was what little
> >impression it made on the Palestinians. Last week Israel TV's Channel 1
> 
>       Ever wonder what's on Iraqi TV? Or on TV in Syria, Libya, Iran,
> Sudan, Algeria, etc. etc.?
>        Ever wonder what you'd see if you saw THEIR police in action?
> ('Homa  destroyed! Film at 11:00! See Hussein's brothers-in-law dumped
> in a vat of acid! LIve slave auction following the news!  Watch
> victims confess live to their crimes, before being liquidated!) . . .
> :-( 
==============================================================================

I guess what you're saying is that everything, even torture, is relative, eh? 

That while Israelis torture Arabs and do so quite legally, some of their
Arabic neighbours go a lot further and perform deeds that are either as
bad or even worse, perhaps even a lot worse. 

So that, upon reflection, torture if practiced by Israelis on Arabs will
not or should not seem so bad to us, after all. You've given a whole new
spin to this torture business, and certainly food for thought: 

Two boys are mugged by a pair of muggers in an alleyway. One of the boys
loses a tooth; the other an eye. We should look more indulgently upon the
mugger who knocked out "only" a boy's tooth, considering the other mugger
poked out the other boy's eye. Is that it? 

BTW, I notice that you didn't contest the fact torture in Israel is
routine and sanctioned by its courts. 

On the contrary, you seem more bothered by the fact that I had not
factored in the ugly deeds committed by some of the uglier Arabic regimes
on their poor, benighted citzens. Perhaps to confuse the issue a wee bit,
eh?

Orest Slepokura

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Friday, December 20, 1996

View from Abroad

It's not a question of if, but when

Netanyahu policies can only derail fragile peace process 

By JOHN BIERMAN

The Financial Post

ÊThe explosion may come at any moment -- perhaps as soon as today, when
Palestinians plan to stage a mass protest in Jerusalem after Friday
prayers.

ÊAnd if not today then some day very soon. 

ÊAny spark will suffice to set off the conflagration. 

ÊAnd on both sides of the Arab-Jewish divide people know that it's not a
question of if but when.

ÊThe last explosion was triggered by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's
crass decision three months ago to assert Israeli sovereignty over East
Jerusalem by opening a tourist tunnel in the very bowels of the old city's
Arab quarter.

ÊIn the four days of street combat that ensued throughout East Jerusalem,
the West Bank and Gaza, 70 people died and the carnage only came to a halt
when U.S. President Bill Clinton summoned both sides to urgent truce talks
in Washington.

ÊSince then there has been an uneasy standoff, marked by the failure of
talks on the modalities of a promised partial withdrawal of Israeli troops
>from  Hebron, by further moves to expand Israeli settlements in the West
Bank, and by the murder of a settlement wife and her son by Palestinian
gunmen.

ÊLooking on, moderate Arab leaders such as Egypt's President Hosni Mubarak
and Jordan's King Hussein have grown increasingly fearful that the
faltering peace process might blow up in their faces, too, bringing about
their downfall for having endorsed it.

ÊNetanyahu says repeatedly that he is determined to pursue that process.
ÊBut he acts repeatedly in ways that can only derail it. 

ÊYasser Arafat and his fellow members of the Palestinian self-rule
authority are no angels.

ÊBut how can they -- and more to the point, how can the mass of their
people -- be expected to make peace with an Israeli government whose
policies make a mockery of the Oslo accords and which repudiates the
detailed agreements made by its predecessor?

ÊIt is not just the left-wing peaceniks of Israel and the Jewish diaspora
who stand aghast at the damage Netanyahu has done to a promising peace
process during his six months in office. 

ÊThe defence and intelligence community are also largely against him. A
week ago, the head of the Shin Bet internal security service, Ami Ayalon,
clashed with Netanyahu, warning that his policy of expanding existing
settlements was leading toward disaster.

ÊNetanyahu responded defiantly, announcing on the weekend a set of
financial incentives to lure even more Israeli settlers to the occupied
territories and describing the expansion of settlements as "a level
national priority.'' 

ÊThis was too much even for the most pro-Israeli U.S. president ever,
Clinton, who replied "absolutely'' when asked by a reporter if Netanyahu's
settlement policies were an obstacle to peace. 

ÊAgain the Netanyahu government responded defiantly. "Bibi'' himself
remained silent, but his mouthpiece, David Bar-Illan, had the chutzpah to
say it was not Israel but Washington that needed to change its policies. 

ÊThis was not, perhaps the smartest way to react to criticism by a
second-term U.S. president no longer in need of the "Israel right or
wrong'' vote.

ÊIf Netanyahu cannot see the damage he is doing to Israel's standing and
prospects, the Israeli media can.

ÊAlmost unanimously, the domestic press is sniping at him, while abroad
such powerful voices as the Washington Post are joining the chorus. 

ÊThe course Netanyahu is taking, said the Post, is "a terrible error,''
and a threat to the close Israeli-U.S. relationship -- a relationship that
for decades has guaranteed the Jewish state's very survival. 

ÊIn the election campaign that brought him into office by a mere hair's
breadth, Netanyahu promised the Israeli people peace with security. 

ÊThe way he is going now will bring them neither. 

John Bierman is a foreign correspondent for The Financial Post. 


==================================== END ====================================

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Friday, December 20, 1996

View from Abroad

It's not a question of if, but when

Netanyahu policies can only derail fragile peace process 

By JOHN BIERMAN

The Financial Post

ÊThe explosion may come at any moment -- perhaps as soon as today, when
Palestinians plan to stage a mass protest in Jerusalem after Friday
prayers.

ÊAnd if not today then some day very soon. 

ÊAny spark will suffice to set off the conflagration. 

ÊAnd on both sides of the Arab-Jewish divide people know that it's not a
question of if but when.

ÊThe last explosion was triggered by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's
crass decision three months ago to assert Israeli sovereignty over East
Jerusalem by opening a tourist tunnel in the very bowels of the old city's
Arab quarter.

ÊIn the four days of street combat that ensued throughout East Jerusalem,
the West Bank and Gaza, 70 people died and the carnage only came to a halt
when U.S. President Bill Clinton summoned both sides to urgent truce talks
in Washington.

ÊSince then there has been an uneasy standoff, marked by the failure of
talks on the modalities of a promised partial withdrawal of Israeli troops
>from  Hebron, by further moves to expand Israeli settlements in the West
Bank, and by the murder of a settlement wife and her son by Palestinian
gunmen.

ÊLooking on, moderate Arab leaders such as Egypt's President Hosni Mubarak
and Jordan's King Hussein have grown increasingly fearful that the
faltering peace process might blow up in their faces, too, bringing about
their downfall for having endorsed it.

ÊNetanyahu says repeatedly that he is determined to pursue that process.
ÊBut he acts repeatedly in ways that can only derail it. 

ÊYasser Arafat and his fellow members of the Palestinian self-rule
authority are no angels.

ÊBut how can they -- and more to the point, how can the mass of their
people -- be expected to make peace with an Israeli government whose
policies make a mockery of the Oslo accords and which repudiates the
detailed agreements made by its predecessor?

ÊIt is not just the left-wing peaceniks of Israel and the Jewish diaspora
who stand aghast at the damage Netanyahu has done to a promising peace
process during his six months in office. 

ÊThe defence and intelligence community are also largely against him. A
week ago, the head of the Shin Bet internal security service, Ami Ayalon,
clashed with Netanyahu, warning that his policy of expanding existing
settlements was leading toward disaster.

ÊNetanyahu responded defiantly, announcing on the weekend a set of
financial incentives to lure even more Israeli settlers to the occupied
territories and describing the expansion of settlements as "a level
national priority.'' 

ÊThis was too much even for the most pro-Israeli U.S. president ever,
Clinton, who replied "absolutely'' when asked by a reporter if Netanyahu's
settlement policies were an obstacle to peace. 

ÊAgain the Netanyahu government responded defiantly. "Bibi'' himself
remained silent, but his mouthpiece, David Bar-Illan, had the chutzpah to
say it was not Israel but Washington that needed to change its policies. 

ÊThis was not, perhaps the smartest way to react to criticism by a
second-term U.S. president no longer in need of the "Israel right or
wrong'' vote.

ÊIf Netanyahu cannot see the damage he is doing to Israel's standing and
prospects, the Israeli media can.

ÊAlmost unanimously, the domestic press is sniping at him, while abroad
such powerful voices as the Washington Post are joining the chorus. 

ÊThe course Netanyahu is taking, said the Post, is "a terrible error,''
and a threat to the close Israeli-U.S. relationship -- a relationship that
for decades has guaranteed the Jewish state's very survival. 

ÊIn the election campaign that brought him into office by a mere hair's
breadth, Netanyahu promised the Israeli people peace with security. 

ÊThe way he is going now will bring them neither. 

John Bierman is a foreign correspondent for The Financial Post. 


==================================== END ====================================

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In article <59mfkm$57c@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>, rbp233@primenet.com wrote:

> >Perhaps the most disturbing aspect of the affair was what little
> >impression it made on the Palestinians. Last week Israel TV's Channel 1
> 
>       Ever wonder what's on Iraqi TV? Or on TV in Syria, Libya, Iran,
> Sudan, Algeria, etc. etc.?
>        Ever wonder what you'd see if you saw THEIR police in action?
> ('Homa  destroyed! Film at 11:00! See Hussein's brothers-in-law dumped
> in a vat of acid! LIve slave auction following the news!  Watch
> victims confess live to their crimes, before being liquidated!) . . .
> :-( 
==============================================================================

I guess what you're saying is that everything, even torture, is relative, eh? 

That while Israelis torture Arabs and do so quite legally, some of their
Arabic neighbours go a lot further and perform deeds that are either as
bad or even worse, perhaps even a lot worse. 

So that, upon reflection, torture if practiced by Israelis on Arabs will
not or should not seem so bad to us, after all. You've given a whole new
spin to this torture business, and certainly food for thought: 

Two boys are mugged by a pair of muggers in an alleyway. One of the boys
loses a tooth; the other an eye. We should look more indulgently upon the
mugger who knocked out "only" a boy's tooth, considering the other mugger
poked out the other boy's eye. Is that it? 

BTW, I notice that you didn't contest the fact torture in Israel is
routine and sanctioned by its courts. 

On the contrary, you seem more bothered by the fact that I had not
factored in the ugly deeds committed by some of the uglier Arabic regimes
on their poor, benighted citzens. Perhaps to confuse the issue a wee bit,
eh?

Orest Slepokura

=============================================================================

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                                                                  *
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   DISPATCHES by Lisa Beyer in Jerusalem [TIME, December 2, 1996, p. 18]

   The Banality of Abuse


Perhaps the most disturbing aspect of the affair was what little
impression it made on the Palestinians. Last week Israel TV's Channel 1
broadcast excerpts from a videoclip, taken six weeks earlier by an amateur
photographer, of two Israeli border policemen repeatedly beating a group
of Palestinian detainees. The images were sickening, but so familiar to
Palestinians, who have endured many such abuses under Israeli occuptaion,
that they caused no uproar in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.  "This is the
daily behaviour of Israeli soldiers," said Rawya Shawa, a member of the
Palestinian Legislative Council.  "All the videocassettes in all the world
could not hold the pictures of humiliation inflicted on the Palestinians."

The photographer, moneychanger Azza Maraka, didn't think the footage
newsworthy until Bssem EId, director of the Palestinian Human Rights
Monitoring Group, convinced him that Israel TV would want the tape. Maraka
says that only a week before he had been beaten by the border police and
decided to periodically film their behaviour in a courtyard below his
apartment window. If Palestinians were unfazed by the footage, Israelis
were outraged. The offending cops, 19 and 20 years old, will almost
certainly face trial. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu called their acts
"immoral and criminal."  In a remarkable display of candour, other
officials acknowledged that such abuse is rampant within the border
police. The taped episode, said Yisrael Sadan, commander of the force, "is
not out of the ordinary."

Neither is it extraordinary for courts to sanction abuse of prisoners.
Israel's High Court recently authorized Shin Bet, the courtry's internal
security agency, to resume using "physical force," a euphemism for
torture, in the interrogation of Mohamed Hamadan, a Palestinian suspected
of links to an Islamist bombing plot. Hamadan's lawyer reports he has been
subjected to violent shaking, an abuse that last year resulted in the
death of an inmate due to brain damage. A few days later, in another case,
the High Court upheld Shin Bet's use of such "normal" interrogation
techniques as sleep deprivation and keeping an inmate's head in a sack
with his arms tied behind him. The most calculated legal insult came last
week in the case of four soldiers who in 1993 killed an 18-year-old
Palestinian at a West Bank checkpoint. An Israeli military court convicted
the soldiers of opening fire on the victim's car against regulations, but
sentenced them to only one hour in jail, which was suspended, and fined
them one agora--a third of a U.S. cent. "Such a judgment just shows how
cheap Palestinian life is under Israeli occupation," says Eid. "The
Israelis will never treat us as human beings."

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Israeli Doctors Part of Torture Process

by Geoff Lumetta

[Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, November/December 1996]

Health professionals working with Israeli security officials form part of
a system in which Palestinian prisoners are tortured, ill-treated and
humiliated in ways which place current prison medical practice in conflict
with medical ethics, according to an Amnesty International report released
Aug. 14. The 16-page, 7,450-word study by the human rights group found the
torture and interrogation system that exists in Israel "could not function
without the acquiescence of the health professionals responsible for the
care of detainees."

While Amnesty does not claim that doctors actively assist in torture or
ill-treatment, the report charges that doctors are deeply implicated in
the abusive process. "Israeli doctors and paramedics are silent witnesses,
participating in a system which denies the physical and mental integrity
of the human being which health professionals are bound to uphold,"
Amnesty said.

The international human rights organization added that the General
Security Service (GSS)--the security branch most involved in the
interrogation of Palestinian detainees--uses methods sych as violent
shaking, beating and prolonged sleep deprivation, usually while hooded for
long periods in painful, contorted positions. Israeli officials do not
deny the use of such measures, but they do not consider these actions
torture , according to Amnesty.

The report calls for Israeli health professionals to resist any collusion
with interrogation and torture. It also asks that the Israeli Medical
Association and Israeli doctors take an active role in documenting and
exposing human rights violations.

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BAN NOTHING
Question everything

by
K.K. CAMPBELL


I was on CBC Newsworld's Faceoff two Tuesdays ago (May 16). Topic:
censorship on the net. My opponent was Bernie Farber of the Canadian
Jewish Congress. Take a wild guess which side I took ... 

The forces of censorship are amassing and, I hate to say it, if Canada
maintains its traditions, we're doomed. The term net.cop will have a more
real meaning than it does today.

Our saving grace might be the U.S. If the U.S. abides by its own tradition
of banning very little speech, Canucks will always be able to get an
account in the U.S. and thus maintain our voices. While the net.illiterate
assholes on Parliament Hill play Emperor For A Day, citizens will telnet
across the border and publish whatever they want, from American computers.

Here are the main three points I tried to make on the show: 

DIGITAL BOOK BURNERS

Farber and his ilk are the moral descendants of book burners. But because
books and printed matter have much stronger legal protections, The Modern
Inquisition finds it easier to target CPUs and sysadmins. 

Right now, the panic-mongers in government and the media blame just about
every social ill on the net. But the main theme today is bombs: "You can
learn how to make bombs from reading the net! This evil must stop!"

It's somewhat true. There is a file called The Terrorist's Handbook which
circulates cyberspace. (It has a real wanky "WareZ d00d" feel to it and I
wouldn't trust it for a second.) There's also The Anarchist's Cookbook
making the rounds, which details everything from blowing up suspension
bridges to cooking LSD in your kitchen. (Regard it with the same
suspicion.)

Sure enough, when I arrived at CBC studios, I saw that Farber had a
printout of one of these text files.

It was a good thing I had walked over to the World's Biggest Bookstore on
my lunch hour and bought a copy of The Anarchist's Cookbook for $34.75.
Information on bomb building. Right off the shelf. 

"Ah, but that costs money," the pro-censorship forces would counter. "You
can copy it off the net for free.

Anticipating that objection, I strolled over to the Metro Reference
Library last Saturday. There, on the main floor, sat a horrible collection
of terrorist information: the Encyclopedia Britannica. I grabbed volume 21
(right off the shelf), flipped to page 323 and read the section on
explosives. I photocopied it for about a buck and strolled back out with
the detailed description of how to make an ammonium nitrate fuel oil bomb
-- exactly like that used in the Oklahoma City bombing.

I hope Allan Rock and the feds attend to this outrage immediately and
write legislation to regulate these damn libraries. 

FIGHT SPEECH WITH SPEECH, NOT COPS

Farber kept suggesting that Nazis and hatemongers are using the net as a
propaganda tool. This is uninformed opinion of the first order. The net is
terrible as a "propaganda tool" because it's a two-way medium. Newsgroups
are interactive. Racists are forced to answer questions. When Farber says,
"Millions of people see what these people write," complete the image for
him: "Millions of people see these people ridiculed and humiliated in
intellectual debate over and over again." 

That is pretty ineffective propaganda.

In the finest of anarchist traditions, the net.community naturally
produces people who rebut every hate-mongering pamphlet that denies the
Holocaust happened. Canada's Ken McVay is one famous example. He's built
an enormous reservoir of historical documents that permanently shred the
revisionist pamphlets. Every time the same old pamphlets are uploaded to
cyberspace, someone quickly tags on the real story. 

"And that's the beauty of the Internet: once it's refuted in an honest and
academic fashion, you can't run away from it," McVay says. "The most
intellectual among them (revisionists) are stupid and completely inept
when it comes to historical research. And, of course, they are liars. That
being the case, why on Earth would anyone want to shut them up or force
them underground? I want to know who I'm dealing with. I want to know
where they are. And I want to know how their minds work." 

It's dramatic to watch. No need for Thought Cops. As Deborah Lipstadt
writes in Denying The Holocaust: "The main shortcoming of legal restraints
is that they transform the deniers into martyrs on the altar of free
speech."

CENSORSHIP SUPPORTS THE STATUS QUO

Throughout history, censorship has only worked to uphold the status quo.
It keeps the strong strong and the weak weak. 

In 1871, Prussia's "personal honor" laws were intended to prevent insults
against groups, such as Jews. Not surprisingly, the courts never upheld
them for Jews, but rigorously used them to prevent criticism of Prussians,
clerics and the military -- the status quo. 

At the turn of the century, France never charged the anti-Semitic enemies
of Captain Alfred Dreyfuss. Of course, when Emile Zola wrote his famous
tract "J'Accuse," he was charged with libel against the clergy and had to
flee to England.

In 1965, the British Race Relations Act was passed to combat racism. The
first people charged under it? Black Power leaders, labor leaders, no-nuke
activists. Britain's National Front thrives. 

In 1974, Britain's National Union of Students passed a resolution against
"openly racist and fascist organizations." It was designed specifically to
prevent anti- Semitism. A year later, it was invoked to prevent
Israeli/Zionist speakers from touring. The National Front was delighted.

Think all this is ancient history? How about Canada's infamous 1992
Supreme Court decision in "Butler vs. the Queen"? It was hailed by
pro-censorship feminists like Andrea Dworkin and Catherine MacKinnon as
being a great step forward for women in the "battle" against sexual
images.

Two-and-a-half years later, we find that it has been used by the
authorities to seize and confiscate material from well over half of all
the feminist bookstores across the country. In fact, Customs actually
seized two of Dworkin's own books. It was also used against gays and
lesbians. "Traditional" sexual material was never touched. 

When are people who work for change going to learn that when they support
censorship, they are building their own gallows? If they want to change
society, why are they working to transfer still greater powers to the
state? If they believe in change, they simply cannot support censorship.

The Master's tools will never dismantle the Master's house. 


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ADL defames itself by honoring Hefner

by William F. Buckley Jr.

[The St. Louis Globe-Democrat - September 19 1980]

It is axiomatic that the village underworlder will seek the approval of
the same community he systematically despoils by ostentatious public
benefactions. Joe Bananas supporting the local church. Billy Sol Estes
hosting a boy scout picnic. Louis B. Mayer contributing to an institution
of higher learning.

No one has practiced the art of civic diversion more prodigiously than
Hugh Hefner, the founder of "Playboy" magazine and godfather of the sexual
revolution. His formula was as straightforward as the advertisements in
"Playboy" for sexually stimulating paraphernalia: make a lot of money by
pandering to the sexual appetite, elevating it to primacy - then spend
part of that money co-seducing critics or potential critics.

It was years ago that Harvard theologian Harvey Cox wrote an essay on
"Playboy," denominating it the single most brazen assault on the female as
a person in general circulation. What seemed like moments later, the same
scholar found himself writing earnest essays for "Playboy"; and before
long he forgot all about his mission to identify "Playboy" for what it
essentially is: an organ that seeks to justify the superordination of sex
over all other considerations - loyalty to family, any principle of
self-discipline, any respect for privacy, or for chastity or modesty. Sex
omnia vincit, Hugh Hefner's magazine told us, issue after issue.

Really, I wonder if anyone in the future can ever again take seriously the
Anti-Defamation League. Here is an organization "dedicated to the
combating prejudice and discrimination against Jews and other minorities,
and to the protection and extension of our democratic system for the
benefit of all Americans." "The League" the brochure continues, "works
with the various institutions of our society, public and private,
religious and secular, to achieve these ends." And it is celebrating later
this month its First Amendment Freedoms Awards by giving a dinner-dance in
honor of - Hugh M. Hefner.

About the honoree the ADL says, with an apparently straight face, that he
"began with little more than a unique idea for a magazine" (nude women,
jokes about copulation, and advice on how to seduce young girls) "and a
philosophy of social change." (The "philosophy," quite simply, that the
gratification of the male sexual impulse is to be achieved without any
second thought to the possible effect on a) the girl b) her family c) your
family d) any code of self-restraint.)  "The empire he founded has had a
far-reaching impact, not only on the publishing industry, but on the mores
of American society as well." That is correct. Any serious disciple of
Hugh Hefner would not hesitate to purr anti-Semitic lovelies into the ears
of his bunny, if that was what was required to effect seduction.

The Anti-Defamation League has, in the past, surrendered to temptations
alien to its splendidly commendable purpose, namely to focus attention on,
and bring obloquy to, acts of racial discrimination. It meddled actively
in the presidential campaign of 1964, endeavoring to scare its clientele
into believing that Senator Goldwater was an ogre of sorts, backed by
fanatics and cravists.  Its current director, Mr. Nathan Perlmutter, is a
man of high sensibility, gentle, firm, discriminating, a scholarly man
long associated with Brandeis University. One notes that he is charging
$250 a plate to guests who seek the privilege of joining with him to honor
Hugh Hefner.

The tawdriness of the symbolism is driven home. Even as Hugh Hefner sells
pictures of parted pudenda in order to make a dollar, a nickel of which he
donates to institutions devoted to the rights of Nazis to march in Skokie,
and of fellow pornographers to hawk their wares, the ADL raises money to
combat discrimination by honoring the principal agent of the kind of
selflessness that deprives racial toleration of the ultimate sanction.
This sanction rests on a profound belief in the sanctity of the
individual, yes, even that of the nubile girl. Take away from the struggle
for racial toleration the profound spiritual commitment to the idea of a
higher law, and the code against anti-Semitism becomes a mere matter of
social convenience, the kind of upward mobile patter one is taught in the
pages of "Playboy" to imitate, on the order of wearing Dior handkerchiefs
or Gucci loafers.

Racial toleration draws its principal strength from the proposition that
we are all brothers, created equal by God. The Playboy philosophy measures
human worth by bustline and genital energy. The affair will be celebrated,
appropriately enough, in Hollywood, at the Century Plaze Hotel. The
invitation specifies "black tie." Well, if the guests arrive wearing only
a black tie, that will be more than some of the guests wear at Hef's other
parties.


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ADL report diminished its reputation

by Leonard Larsen 

[D.C. Observer, June 13, 1988 / Scripps Howard News Service]

WASHINGTON--The Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith is a proud
organization that is celebrating its 75th anniversary in fighting
discrimination - sometimes perilously, always unselfishly and frequently
wading into struggles on behalf of non-Jews whose rights need a strong and
honest voice.

But now in a just published ADL "special report," an "Audit of
Anti-Semitic Incidents: The Anti-Israel Component," the ADL clouds its own
record.

Surprising, perhaps shocking from an organization whose work and ideals
are so much a part of the American fabric, the ADL dangles a suggestion
that free speech can be held suspect if the object of criticism is the
state of Israel.

With the Palestinian uprising in the occupied territories in its seventh
month, with more than 200 Palestinians killed by Israeli soldiers and
settlers, with harsh treatment of Palestinians under Israeli military rule
now a settled way of life, the ADL publication clearly implies that to
voice opposition to Israel's political and military policy and to support
a Palestinian viewpoint is "anti-Semitic."

The ADL special report on "anti-Semitic incidents," covering the first
4-1/2 months of 1988, dwells mainly on acts that can be seen as vandalism,
clear threats against Jews and their institutions and other products of
thuggery and hate.

But while the ADL, in its past annual reports on anti-Semitism, has
included in its audits what have been called acts of "propaganda carried
on by anti-Israel and anti-Zionist organizations," the authors of the
current special report say that a "new anti-Semitic pattern has emerged"
has emerged in "anti-Jewish acts (which) have been linked to unrest in the
West Bank and Gaza."

Of the 88 "episodes" in which the ADL finds such links, most are of
brutish behavior that is invariably the work of bigoted fools of the night
- spray-painting of synagogues, anonymous threatening telephone calls and
mailings, vandalism and verbal harassment.

Included, however, are a few incidents which, in the ADL view as
"anti-Semitic" ONLY BECAUSE THEY RECOUNT BRUTAL ACTS OF REPRESSION AGAINST
PALESTINIANS BY THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT [m.e.].

One ADL account of "anti-Semitism," for example, arrives from Palm Beach,
Fla., where it was reported, there had been "distribution of
pro-Palestinian literature on several occasions."

Another incident in the ADL special report came from East Tennessee State
University in the distribution of "anti-Israel and anti-Semitic literature
featuring pro-Palestinian sympathies."

>From  Boston, the ADL said, came more "anti-Semitic" conduct by the person
or persons who set out for public display "pro-Palestinian/anti-Israel
graffiti throughout the subway system."

The Boston subway slogans cited by the ADL - presumably the most vicious
examples of anti-Semitism - were "Victory to the Palestinian People's
Struggle" and "Down With the Reactionary Israeli-Settler State and Their
U.S. Masters."

Lumping together all the 1988 reports of "Anti-Semitic Acts Linked to West
Bank/Gaza Unrest," the ADL describes everything - from vandalism against
synagogues to pro-Palestinian pamphlets - as "anti-Semitic crimes with a
political twist," and expresses confidence that "all Americans, no matter
their views on the current conflict in the Middle East, will join us in
condemning such bigoted activities."

For months, years even, EFFORTS TO EQUATE CRITICISM OF ISRAEL AND SUPPORT
FOR PALESTINIANS WITH ANTI-SEMITISM HAS COME FROM PAID ISRAELI LOBBYISTS
[m.e.]. What is disturbing is that an organization so deserving of honor
and respect as the ADL would now join in the tactic.

AN OBVIOUS INTENT HERE IS TO USE INTIMIDATION TO SILENCE CRITICISM OF
ISRAEL'S POLITICAL AND MILITARY CONDUCT [m.e.]. The participation of the
ADL in such work diminishes its history and tradition.
______________________________________________________________________________
Leonard E. Larsen is a nationally syndicated clumnist based in Washington D.C.

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Israeli Doctors Part of Torture Process

by Geoff Lumetta

[Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, November/December 1996]

Health professionals working with Israeli security officials form part of
a system in which Palestinian prisoners are tortured, ill-treated and
humiliated in ways which place current prison medical practice in conflict
with medical ethics, according to an Amnesty International report released
Aug. 14. The 16-page, 7,450-word study by the human rights group found the
torture and interrogation system that exists in Israel "could not function
without the acquiescence of the health professionals responsible for the
care of detainees."

While Amnesty does not claim that doctors actively assist in torture or
ill-treatment, the report charges that doctors are deeply implicated in
the abusive process. "Israeli doctors and paramedics are silent witnesses,
participating in a system which denies the physical and mental integrity
of the human being which health professionals are bound to uphold,"
Amnesty said.

The international human rights organization added that the General
Security Service (GSS)--the security branch most involved in the
interrogation of Palestinian detainees--uses methods sych as violent
shaking, beating and prolonged sleep deprivation, usually while hooded for
long periods in painful, contorted positions. Israeli officials do not
deny the use of such measures, but they do not consider these actions
torture , according to Amnesty.

The report calls for Israeli health professionals to resist any collusion
with interrogation and torture. It also asks that the Israeli Medical
Association and Israeli doctors take an active role in documenting and
exposing human rights violations.

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ADL defames itself by honoring Hefner

by William F. Buckley Jr.

[The St. Louis Globe-Democrat - September 19 1980]

It is axiomatic that the village underworlder will seek the approval of
the same community he systematically despoils by ostentatious public
benefactions. Joe Bananas supporting the local church. Billy Sol Estes
hosting a boy scout picnic. Louis B. Mayer contributing to an institution
of higher learning.

No one has practiced the art of civic diversion more prodigiously than
Hugh Hefner, the founder of "Playboy" magazine and godfather of the sexual
revolution. His formula was as straightforward as the advertisements in
"Playboy" for sexually stimulating paraphernalia: make a lot of money by
pandering to the sexual appetite, elevating it to primacy - then spend
part of that money co-seducing critics or potential critics.

It was years ago that Harvard theologian Harvey Cox wrote an essay on
"Playboy," denominating it the single most brazen assault on the female as
a person in general circulation. What seemed like moments later, the same
scholar found himself writing earnest essays for "Playboy"; and before
long he forgot all about his mission to identify "Playboy" for what it
essentially is: an organ that seeks to justify the superordination of sex
over all other considerations - loyalty to family, any principle of
self-discipline, any respect for privacy, or for chastity or modesty. Sex
omnia vincit, Hugh Hefner's magazine told us, issue after issue.

Really, I wonder if anyone in the future can ever again take seriously the
Anti-Defamation League. Here is an organization "dedicated to the
combating prejudice and discrimination against Jews and other minorities,
and to the protection and extension of our democratic system for the
benefit of all Americans." "The League" the brochure continues, "works
with the various institutions of our society, public and private,
religious and secular, to achieve these ends." And it is celebrating later
this month its First Amendment Freedoms Awards by giving a dinner-dance in
honor of - Hugh M. Hefner.

About the honoree the ADL says, with an apparently straight face, that he
"began with little more than a unique idea for a magazine" (nude women,
jokes about copulation, and advice on how to seduce young girls) "and a
philosophy of social change." (The "philosophy," quite simply, that the
gratification of the male sexual impulse is to be achieved without any
second thought to the possible effect on a) the girl b) her family c) your
family d) any code of self-restraint.)  "The empire he founded has had a
far-reaching impact, not only on the publishing industry, but on the mores
of American society as well." That is correct. Any serious disciple of
Hugh Hefner would not hesitate to purr anti-Semitic lovelies into the ears
of his bunny, if that was what was required to effect seduction.

The Anti-Defamation League has, in the past, surrendered to temptations
alien to its splendidly commendable purpose, namely to focus attention on,
and bring obloquy to, acts of racial discrimination. It meddled actively
in the presidential campaign of 1964, endeavoring to scare its clientele
into believing that Senator Goldwater was an ogre of sorts, backed by
fanatics and cravists.  Its current director, Mr. Nathan Perlmutter, is a
man of high sensibility, gentle, firm, discriminating, a scholarly man
long associated with Brandeis University. One notes that he is charging
$250 a plate to guests who seek the privilege of joining with him to honor
Hugh Hefner.

The tawdriness of the symbolism is driven home. Even as Hugh Hefner sells
pictures of parted pudenda in order to make a dollar, a nickel of which he
donates to institutions devoted to the rights of Nazis to march in Skokie,
and of fellow pornographers to hawk their wares, the ADL raises money to
combat discrimination by honoring the principal agent of the kind of
selflessness that deprives racial toleration of the ultimate sanction.
This sanction rests on a profound belief in the sanctity of the
individual, yes, even that of the nubile girl. Take away from the struggle
for racial toleration the profound spiritual commitment to the idea of a
higher law, and the code against anti-Semitism becomes a mere matter of
social convenience, the kind of upward mobile patter one is taught in the
pages of "Playboy" to imitate, on the order of wearing Dior handkerchiefs
or Gucci loafers.

Racial toleration draws its principal strength from the proposition that
we are all brothers, created equal by God. The Playboy philosophy measures
human worth by bustline and genital energy. The affair will be celebrated,
appropriately enough, in Hollywood, at the Century Plaze Hotel. The
invitation specifies "black tie." Well, if the guests arrive wearing only
a black tie, that will be more than some of the guests wear at Hef's other
parties.


      ==================================END==============================

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ADL report diminished its reputation

by Leonard Larsen 

[D.C. Observer, June 13, 1988 / Scripps Howard News Service]

WASHINGTON--The Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith is a proud
organization that is celebrating its 75th anniversary in fighting
discrimination - sometimes perilously, always unselfishly and frequently
wading into struggles on behalf of non-Jews whose rights need a strong and
honest voice.

But now in a just published ADL "special report," an "Audit of
Anti-Semitic Incidents: The Anti-Israel Component," the ADL clouds its own
record.

Surprising, perhaps shocking from an organization whose work and ideals
are so much a part of the American fabric, the ADL dangles a suggestion
that free speech can be held suspect if the object of criticism is the
state of Israel.

With the Palestinian uprising in the occupied territories in its seventh
month, with more than 200 Palestinians killed by Israeli soldiers and
settlers, with harsh treatment of Palestinians under Israeli military rule
now a settled way of life, the ADL publication clearly implies that to
voice opposition to Israel's political and military policy and to support
a Palestinian viewpoint is "anti-Semitic."

The ADL special report on "anti-Semitic incidents," covering the first
4-1/2 months of 1988, dwells mainly on acts that can be seen as vandalism,
clear threats against Jews and their institutions and other products of
thuggery and hate.

But while the ADL, in its past annual reports on anti-Semitism, has
included in its audits what have been called acts of "propaganda carried
on by anti-Israel and anti-Zionist organizations," the authors of the
current special report say that a "new anti-Semitic pattern has emerged"
has emerged in "anti-Jewish acts (which) have been linked to unrest in the
West Bank and Gaza."

Of the 88 "episodes" in which the ADL finds such links, most are of
brutish behavior that is invariably the work of bigoted fools of the night
- spray-painting of synagogues, anonymous threatening telephone calls and
mailings, vandalism and verbal harassment.

Included, however, are a few incidents which, in the ADL view as
"anti-Semitic" ONLY BECAUSE THEY RECOUNT BRUTAL ACTS OF REPRESSION AGAINST
PALESTINIANS BY THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT [m.e.].

One ADL account of "anti-Semitism," for example, arrives from Palm Beach,
Fla., where it was reported, there had been "distribution of
pro-Palestinian literature on several occasions."

Another incident in the ADL special report came from East Tennessee State
University in the distribution of "anti-Israel and anti-Semitic literature
featuring pro-Palestinian sympathies."

>From  Boston, the ADL said, came more "anti-Semitic" conduct by the person
or persons who set out for public display "pro-Palestinian/anti-Israel
graffiti throughout the subway system."

The Boston subway slogans cited by the ADL - presumably the most vicious
examples of anti-Semitism - were "Victory to the Palestinian People's
Struggle" and "Down With the Reactionary Israeli-Settler State and Their
U.S. Masters."

Lumping together all the 1988 reports of "Anti-Semitic Acts Linked to West
Bank/Gaza Unrest," the ADL describes everything - from vandalism against
synagogues to pro-Palestinian pamphlets - as "anti-Semitic crimes with a
political twist," and expresses confidence that "all Americans, no matter
their views on the current conflict in the Middle East, will join us in
condemning such bigoted activities."

For months, years even, EFFORTS TO EQUATE CRITICISM OF ISRAEL AND SUPPORT
FOR PALESTINIANS WITH ANTI-SEMITISM HAS COME FROM PAID ISRAELI LOBBYISTS
[m.e.]. What is disturbing is that an organization so deserving of honor
and respect as the ADL would now join in the tactic.

AN OBVIOUS INTENT HERE IS TO USE INTIMIDATION TO SILENCE CRITICISM OF
ISRAEL'S POLITICAL AND MILITARY CONDUCT [m.e.]. The participation of the
ADL in such work diminishes its history and tradition.
______________________________________________________________________________
Leonard E. Larsen is a nationally syndicated clumnist based in Washington D.C.

-- 
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                                                                  *
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ADL defames itself by honoring Hefner

by William F. Buckley Jr.

[The St. Louis Globe-Democrat - September 19 1980]

It is axiomatic that the village underworlder will seek the approval of
the same community he systematically despoils by ostentatious public
benefactions. Joe Bananas supporting the local church. Billy Sol Estes
hosting a boy scout picnic. Louis B. Mayer contributing to an institution
of higher learning.

No one has practiced the art of civic diversion more prodigiously than
Hugh Hefner, the founder of "Playboy" magazine and godfather of the sexual
revolution. His formula was as straightforward as the advertisements in
"Playboy" for sexually stimulating paraphernalia: make a lot of money by
pandering to the sexual appetite, elevating it to primacy - then spend
part of that money co-seducing critics or potential critics.

It was years ago that Harvard theologian Harvey Cox wrote an essay on
"Playboy," denominating it the single most brazen assault on the female as
a person in general circulation. What seemed like moments later, the same
scholar found himself writing earnest essays for "Playboy"; and before
long he forgot all about his mission to identify "Playboy" for what it
essentially is: an organ that seeks to justify the superordination of sex
over all other considerations - loyalty to family, any principle of
self-discipline, any respect for privacy, or for chastity or modesty. Sex
omnia vincit, Hugh Hefner's magazine told us, issue after issue.

Really, I wonder if anyone in the future can ever again take seriously the
Anti-Defamation League. Here is an organization "dedicated to the
combating prejudice and discrimination against Jews and other minorities,
and to the protection and extension of our democratic system for the
benefit of all Americans." "The League" the brochure continues, "works
with the various institutions of our society, public and private,
religious and secular, to achieve these ends." And it is celebrating later
this month its First Amendment Freedoms Awards by giving a dinner-dance in
honor of - Hugh M. Hefner.

About the honoree the ADL says, with an apparently straight face, that he
"began with little more than a unique idea for a magazine" (nude women,
jokes about copulation, and advice on how to seduce young girls) "and a
philosophy of social change." (The "philosophy," quite simply, that the
gratification of the male sexual impulse is to be achieved without any
second thought to the possible effect on a) the girl b) her family c) your
family d) any code of self-restraint.)  "The empire he founded has had a
far-reaching impact, not only on the publishing industry, but on the mores
of American society as well." That is correct. Any serious disciple of
Hugh Hefner would not hesitate to purr anti-Semitic lovelies into the ears
of his bunny, if that was what was required to effect seduction.

The Anti-Defamation League has, in the past, surrendered to temptations
alien to its splendidly commendable purpose, namely to focus attention on,
and bring obloquy to, acts of racial discrimination. It meddled actively
in the presidential campaign of 1964, endeavoring to scare its clientele
into believing that Senator Goldwater was an ogre of sorts, backed by
fanatics and cravists.  Its current director, Mr. Nathan Perlmutter, is a
man of high sensibility, gentle, firm, discriminating, a scholarly man
long associated with Brandeis University. One notes that he is charging
$250 a plate to guests who seek the privilege of joining with him to honor
Hugh Hefner.

The tawdriness of the symbolism is driven home. Even as Hugh Hefner sells
pictures of parted pudenda in order to make a dollar, a nickel of which he
donates to institutions devoted to the rights of Nazis to march in Skokie,
and of fellow pornographers to hawk their wares, the ADL raises money to
combat discrimination by honoring the principal agent of the kind of
selflessness that deprives racial toleration of the ultimate sanction.
This sanction rests on a profound belief in the sanctity of the
individual, yes, even that of the nubile girl. Take away from the struggle
for racial toleration the profound spiritual commitment to the idea of a
higher law, and the code against anti-Semitism becomes a mere matter of
social convenience, the kind of upward mobile patter one is taught in the
pages of "Playboy" to imitate, on the order of wearing Dior handkerchiefs
or Gucci loafers.

Racial toleration draws its principal strength from the proposition that
we are all brothers, created equal by God. The Playboy philosophy measures
human worth by bustline and genital energy. The affair will be celebrated,
appropriately enough, in Hollywood, at the Century Plaze Hotel. The
invitation specifies "black tie." Well, if the guests arrive wearing only
a black tie, that will be more than some of the guests wear at Hef's other
parties.


      ==================================END==============================

-- 
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                                                                  *
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ADL report diminished its reputation

by Leonard Larsen 

[D.C. Observer, June 13, 1988 / Scripps Howard News Service]

WASHINGTON--The Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith is a proud
organization that is celebrating its 75th anniversary in fighting
discrimination - sometimes perilously, always unselfishly and frequently
wading into struggles on behalf of non-Jews whose rights need a strong and
honest voice.

But now in a just published ADL "special report," an "Audit of
Anti-Semitic Incidents: The Anti-Israel Component," the ADL clouds its own
record.

Surprising, perhaps shocking from an organization whose work and ideals
are so much a part of the American fabric, the ADL dangles a suggestion
that free speech can be held suspect if the object of criticism is the
state of Israel.

With the Palestinian uprising in the occupied territories in its seventh
month, with more than 200 Palestinians killed by Israeli soldiers and
settlers, with harsh treatment of Palestinians under Israeli military rule
now a settled way of life, the ADL publication clearly implies that to
voice opposition to Israel's political and military policy and to support
a Palestinian viewpoint is "anti-Semitic."

The ADL special report on "anti-Semitic incidents," covering the first
4-1/2 months of 1988, dwells mainly on acts that can be seen as vandalism,
clear threats against Jews and their institutions and other products of
thuggery and hate.

But while the ADL, in its past annual reports on anti-Semitism, has
included in its audits what have been called acts of "propaganda carried
on by anti-Israel and anti-Zionist organizations," the authors of the
current special report say that a "new anti-Semitic pattern has emerged"
has emerged in "anti-Jewish acts (which) have been linked to unrest in the
West Bank and Gaza."

Of the 88 "episodes" in which the ADL finds such links, most are of
brutish behavior that is invariably the work of bigoted fools of the night
- spray-painting of synagogues, anonymous threatening telephone calls and
mailings, vandalism and verbal harassment.

Included, however, are a few incidents which, in the ADL view as
"anti-Semitic" ONLY BECAUSE THEY RECOUNT BRUTAL ACTS OF REPRESSION AGAINST
PALESTINIANS BY THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT [m.e.].

One ADL account of "anti-Semitism," for example, arrives from Palm Beach,
Fla., where it was reported, there had been "distribution of
pro-Palestinian literature on several occasions."

Another incident in the ADL special report came from East Tennessee State
University in the distribution of "anti-Israel and anti-Semitic literature
featuring pro-Palestinian sympathies."

>From  Boston, the ADL said, came more "anti-Semitic" conduct by the person
or persons who set out for public display "pro-Palestinian/anti-Israel
graffiti throughout the subway system."

The Boston subway slogans cited by the ADL - presumably the most vicious
examples of anti-Semitism - were "Victory to the Palestinian People's
Struggle" and "Down With the Reactionary Israeli-Settler State and Their
U.S. Masters."

Lumping together all the 1988 reports of "Anti-Semitic Acts Linked to West
Bank/Gaza Unrest," the ADL describes everything - from vandalism against
synagogues to pro-Palestinian pamphlets - as "anti-Semitic crimes with a
political twist," and expresses confidence that "all Americans, no matter
their views on the current conflict in the Middle East, will join us in
condemning such bigoted activities."

For months, years even, EFFORTS TO EQUATE CRITICISM OF ISRAEL AND SUPPORT
FOR PALESTINIANS WITH ANTI-SEMITISM HAS COME FROM PAID ISRAELI LOBBYISTS
[m.e.]. What is disturbing is that an organization so deserving of honor
and respect as the ADL would now join in the tactic.

AN OBVIOUS INTENT HERE IS TO USE INTIMIDATION TO SILENCE CRITICISM OF
ISRAEL'S POLITICAL AND MILITARY CONDUCT [m.e.]. The participation of the
ADL in such work diminishes its history and tradition.
______________________________________________________________________________
Leonard E. Larsen is a nationally syndicated clumnist based in Washington D.C.

-- 
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What sort of truth is it that needs protection?  - Auberon Waugh  *
                                                                  *
The London Daily Telegraph, May 9, 1992                           *
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