From slepokuo@cadvision.com Thu Aug 31 10:28:11 PDT 1995 Article: 5488 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!news.cyberstore.ca!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!in1.uu.net!cadvision.com!cad197.cadvision.com!user From: slepokuo@cadvision.com (Orest Slepokura) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: No business like Shoah business Date: 31 Aug 1995 13:07:18 GMT Organization: CADVision Lines: 23 Message-ID:NNTP-Posting-Host: cad197.cadvision.com X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.0b30 "There's no business like Shoah business," is, according to Argentine-Jewish newspaper publisher Jacob Timmerman, a common cynical utterance among some of the Jews in Israel. Here's what Rabbi Jakobovits, Britain's chief rabbi, said of the marketing and merchandising of the Holocaust: >From the Jerusalem Post, Nov. 26, 1987: "An entire industry, with handsome profits for writers, researchers, filmmakers, monument builders, museum planners, politicians and even some rabbis and theologians were partners in this big business industry." Against this backdrop, one asks: Are Jews like, say, Elie Wiesel and Rabbi Hier the great moral authorities they pretend to be or do they conceal something a wee bit more mundane? Are they and their ilk in fact nothing more than clever, cunning Shoah merchants flogging their wares in the marketplace of ideas? It's just a question. (We can still ask such questions, can't we, without fear the Thought Police might at any moment swoop down on us?) From slepokuo@cadvision.com Thu Aug 31 10:29:16 PDT 1995 Article: 5489 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!news.cyberstore.ca!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!in1.uu.net!cadvision.com!cad197.cadvision.com!user From: slepokuo@cadvision.com (Orest Slepokura) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Elie Wiesel's "healthy, virile hate..." Date: 31 Aug 1995 13:15:20 GMT Organization: CADVision Lines: 10 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: cad197.cadvision.com X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.0b30 This admonition for all Jews to hate all Germans appears in Holocaust survivor and Nobel Peace Prize laureate [1986] Elie Wiesel's book Legends of Our Time [see: Shocken Books: New York, p. 142]. "Every Jew, somewhere in his being should set apart a zone of hate--healthy, virile hate--for what the German personifies and for what what persists in the German. To do otherwise would be a betrayal of the dead." For the "fun" of it, reverse the names German and Jew and then read the result. From bzs@world.std.com Thu Aug 31 22:49:59 PDT 1995 Article: 5565 of alt.revisionism Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!news.cyberstore.ca!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!in2.uu.net!world!bzs From: bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein) Subject: Re: Elie Wiesel's "healthy, virile hate..." In-Reply-To: slepokuo@cadvision.com's message of 31 Aug 1995 13:15:20 GMT Message-ID: Sender: bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein) Organization: The World References: Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 21:09:22 GMT Lines: 48 From: slepokuo@cadvision.com (Orest Slepokura) >This admonition for all Jews to hate all Germans appears in Holocaust >survivor and Nobel Peace Prize laureate [1986] Elie Wiesel's book Legends >of Our Time [see: Shocken Books: New York, p. 142]. > >"Every Jew, somewhere in his being should set apart a zone of >hate--healthy, virile hate--for what the German personifies and for what >what persists in the German. To do otherwise would be a betrayal of the >dead." Here we have chapter 12 of "How to be a Holocaust Denier and Jew Hater in 20 easy to follow steps". This quote is taken out of context, as has been pointed out many times before. This one shows up here roughly every other month. But each moron who parades it forth acts like he's discovered this (where did you read this Mr Slepokura? C'mon, for once in your life tell the truth, it's always the same damned quote.) What Wiesel is saying is that when he was a prisoner at Auschwitz he was so dehumanized he couldn't even hate his captors...he was capable of no emotion whatsoever as a result of his brutalization, and so were others around him. And eventually he realized that to be so dehumanized, so devoid of emotion from this experience, is a terrible thing, it's not courage or stoicism as he might've imagined at the time. And from this he says the above, that it's healthy to hate what the Nazis were and what they did, that although we're taught that hate is a negative emotion when you're confronted with that kind of evil to not hate is to not be human, to lose your humanity. Feel free to read the chapter in context yourself, it's fairly short and available at most bookstores (you can resolve this one standing at the shelf, you need to read about 3 pages previous to the above quote.) I'm sure most anyone who does (any sane person anyhow) will agree that the above quote by Mr Slepokura (well, that he copied in >from his 20 easy lessons) is purposely misleading and wonder only about how such a person could quote so blatantly out of context soas to mislead people in such a vicious way. -- -Barry Shein Software Tool & Die | bzs@world.std.com | uunet!world!bzs Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: 617-739-0202 | Login: 617-739-WRLD
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