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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 09:38:14 -0500
From: Joel Rosenberg 
Subject: The tapdancing continues:  Schoedel's latest "resignation"
Status: RO

Following taken verbatim from Schoedel's site this morning, before went down.

Interesting to compare it and the original version, and note where and how
he's removed most of the obvious slips.  


A Statement from Rev. Ron Schoedel concerning the White Nationalist
movement, with suggestions on how to truly accomplish the truly important
things in life.

Issued 26 June 1996, slightly revised 9 July. For further information, email
Ron at


Much controversey has arisen within the "White Nationalist movement" 
over the resignation of Milton Kleim in recent weeks.  As most know, 
Milton has been -- for over two years -- very prominent within the 
"movement", expecially in the net crusades for the goals of the 

Also, just before Milton issued his statement, I resigned from the 
ministry temporarily, over some personal things.  My own resignation 
caused quite a hullaballoo, and confused many.  It upset some and made 
others happy.  As most know, I have returned to the ministry now.  My 
political work, is another story though.

Having gone through some similar experiences recently as Milton has come 
through, I have learned many new things about the bulk of the 
"movement".  I have learned many new things about myself, my faith, and 
my future.  Personal hardships are life's best instructors I believe, 
and personally I have undergone some of the best instruction in life 
over the last 5 months (see for a detailed discussion 
of these things).

I come away from my personal hardships with a new understanding of many 
things, and ready to continue onward through this journey called life 
with much gladness in my heart for the lessons I have learned.  Personal 
excellence is a very important goal for any individual.  My recent 
experiences have prepared me for the trials that will surely come my way 
in the future, and I am thankful to be a stronger, wiser man than I was 
just 6 weeks ago.

One thing I have come to a very moving and very critical new 
understanding on, is the so-called "movement".  Milton has received much 
flack -- even to the point of being called a "race traitor" because of 
his resignation from the "movement".  As Milton has explained in his own 
public statements of late, his beliefs of how best to "serve his people" 
entails marrying and starting a family.  This, from the man who was very 
active in the political arena not that long ago, seeking to change 
society through the "movement".

Myself, for three years I have been playing the political game, and 
though I have never been a part of any organized group within the 
"movement", my activities have nonetheless caused me to be linked with 
all manner of political groups within the "movement".  Last year I made 
my debut on the usenet making very shocking statements, and thus 
affording myself lots of attention -- some good, some bad.  For months 
my shocking words were posted daily to the usenet newsgroups, angering 
many, endearing me to some, and stunning most all.  They gained me lots of
endearment amongst people I never wanted endearment from, to be honest.
All shades of the racist fringe of the right-wing courted me, offering
me positions of leadership and the like.  The reason for this most likely
could be because I am a SIMPLE, NORMAL GUY.  Raised in a working class
midwest family, living in rural Ohio, growing up in the Baptist church
with other normal people all around me my whole life, I did not carry with
me any baggage that could "discredit" me.  I had a clean slate, and would
have been an ideal leader in that movement, I was told.  HAD I SHARED THEIR
BELIEFS.  HAD I SHARED THEM.  I gave that movement the benefit of the doubt,
I tried to be accepting and helpful trying to offer spiritual guidance to
those in that movement seeking the same.  Little did I realize how many
people would wear the cloak of Christian "Identity" merely as spiritual justi-
fication for heinous beliefs.  REAL "CHRISTIAN ISRAELISM" is not compatible
with hatred or violence.  Little did I expect that people would merely become
religious as a means of trying to make their despicable beliefs appear

However, the fact does remain, that I DID AT ONE TIME stand in a position such
that I was sympathetic to some beliefs of the far right.
I have come to the understanding that some things I said were not right.  And I 
was wrong for saying them.  I look back though at past writings of mine, those
which had a decidely "right-wing" spin to them, and wonder what they have 

In a word, absolutely nothing.  I look then at what the so-called 
movement with it's charismatic leaders and good funding has 
accomplished.  Nothing.  In about the same time Milton came to his new 
understanding of this issue, I was formulating my own similar beliefs, 
with are now much different than they were just a few short months ago.

Raising a healthy, happy family.  Many in the so-called movement say 
that's important, but how many actually do that?  What is being 
accomplished by the media-attention-hungry "movement"?  Some within the 
movement have very good hearts, I am sure.  Some truly seek to revive 
the European Christian Culture that made this nation great.  Most 
however, just like to get together, get drunk and cuss out and beat up 
minorities.  Nothing is accomplished in such activities, except to bring 
the masses to a heightened disapproval of those with perceived "white 
nationalist" ideas.  

The "movement" -- in large part -- is composed of people looking for 
attention.  It is a form of diversion and entertainment for too many; a 
nice way to make bucks for a few.  And with all the various factions 
that exist, what is there to show for it all?  Not a thing.  Not a 
single thing.  A movement without real leaders and sincerely dedicated 
followers is not a "movement" at all, but a stagnant stale do-nothing 
form of entertainment, not much different than the amusements offered us 
by Hollywood.  It takes our minds and focus off the truly important 
things in life.

I want to see my Faith and Culture continue into the future.  I cherish 
my heritage greatly.  But I am not going to see these goals realized by 
buddying up to social misfits who are doing not much better than 
minority groups doing the same thing.  To continue my heritage into the 
future, to pass down my faith, we need to raise large, healthy families. 
 That is my number one goal, and in fact always has been.

Since I met my former fiancee Vanessa earlier this year, I knew that 
goal would henceforth be my focus.  I withdrew from the political scene 
for a while (though I continued in the service of God through the 
ministry), wanting to focus all my energies and thoughts on the future 
and our life together.  I wanted to take that relationship forward, with 
the eventual goal of what I consider the most important thing a man can 
ever do in his life: be a good husband and father, in that order.  We 
had intended to marry this Septemeber, and to raise a large family.  As 
my personal letter of 8 June 1996
( mentioned, 
Vanessa and I split on 13 May of this year.  It was a very devastating split for
 me, but one that I finally came to see was necessary for the time being.   It 
is a shame that two broken hearts were the price for the enlightenment I 
received, but after carefully considering all things, I am sure this is 
what is right for the both of us, now. 

While I cannot speak for my former fiancee, I can certainly say for 
myself that the break-up taught me many things.  Most importantly it 
REINFORCED my belief in strong marriages and family life.  It reinforced 
the fact that we need to select our life mates very carefully, and with 
much consideration about what each person values and finds important.  

At the time, our ideas were in many ways different.  Nothing more could
come from that relationship unless or until one of us had a serious change
of heart.  I sure have, to say the least.  Reagrdless of where she is, or
what the lovely gal is doing now, I wish God's best blessings for Vanessa,
and there is no animosity at all in this heart toward the one I once loved in a 
life-partner way, and who I still love as a sister in Christ.

And likewise, I carry on in life, but with a greatly expanded knowledge 
that the most important thing I must do is marry and have a family.  I 
can no longer expend my time or efforts on the so-called "movement", as 
I have for so long.  I admit the errors of my past ways, and it takes a 
strong man to admit error.  Anyone can carry on inside their own deluded 
fantasies.  That does not take courage.  I have seen that 
the so-called "movement" is wasting time and effort on things that have 
not done any good in this country.

(Digressing, Those in that movement who use violence or hatred are even
worse, and I 
declare definitively that I stand opposed to hatred and violence, which are
not necessary at all.  Most in that movement are merely holding despicable
ideas, some carry those ideas into action.  Let it be known that I do not now,
and never have supported such things!)  

Marriages are still falling apart, children are still being taken 
advantage of (be it physically or mentally), our culture is fast 
deteriorating and the reason is very simple: the family unit that God 
ordained as the most important part of a human's existence has been 
eroded.  Where we should have been working on strengthening families and 
having our own, the "movement" has been engaging in activities that do 
nothing toward the ONE thing that CAN preserve our Culture!

What is the most important thing anybody can do in life? have a family. One 
man and one woman -- loving each other for life -- and having a 
large, healthy family will do a million times more for our Heritage or
that of ANY race or people than all the "movement" has done since it's
inception.  And to truly serve and benefit all of humanity, we do not need to
use violence or hatred of any sort.

I must announce to all my own convictions and new understandings, and 
detach myself from what I know is a failed movement (though it was never 
a formal membership for me in any group).  I shall now pursue that wife 
and family that every man needs, and that this world needs if 
civilization is to grow and flourish in the future.

If every man or woman in the white nationalist movement or any minority 
movement would instead spend their time and efforts building a large, 
healthy family, every race would grow and improve itself.  It is high 
time to realize the truth, friends.  No political program is going to 
solve real or perceived ills for "or race".  No political organisation 
without the blessing of Providence is going to have any impact.  As a 
nation, we ALL must repent of our errors.  Until then, God will allow 
our race to be judged as He has seen fit to do in recent decades.

A return to God and family is all that can save any of us, and our 
Nation as a whole.  When we repent and turn to the truth, only then will 
God bless our nation.  

I shall continue with my ministry work but the difference is, now my 
focus will be on spiritual matters in a PERSONAL context, rather than in the
public eye or rather than political matters.  Only a change of the 
heart will have any effect on the world as a whole.  We can do all we 
want to try to change things in other ways -- as the "movement" has, and 
as we can see, that approach does nothing.  THEIR PREMISE IS SHAKY, THEIR
ASSERTIONS ARE OFTEN UNTRUE and those things are dangerous in that they
offer diversion and entertainment for equally unstable people looking for
something to give them worth in their lives.  THE GOALS OF THAT POLITICAL

I continue now to search for a life mate who truly shares my goals and 
beliefs, and when we meet, we shall work together to build a bright future for 
our children, and their children, and so forth.  I shall continue in my quest 
for personal excellence as well.  And with God's blessings, maybe just maybe 
some sense of sanity may be returned to this world in a large way, after 
people come to the realisations I have. 

To those who hastily criticised us; to those who called us all 
manner of unpleasant names; to those who have judged us as  traitors 
and scorned us: Consider that by pursuing a real family life, Milton and I are 
doing what you CLAIM to want to do...continuing our Heritage into the 
future.  I am doing the same now. For God and Nation, and for yourselves 
friends, consider the implications of what you have been doing if you 
are a part of the movement.  Consider what better good will be 
accomplished if we instead gave up the selfish desire for attention and 
focused on loving our wives, building our families and the like.

May God's blessings be upon those who see the light and are able to see 
the futility of engaging in destructive acts that do nothing to further 
any cause except the cause of pride and arrogance.  My purpose in this 
letter was not to anger anybody, not to put anybody down.  I am not 
PERSONALLY against those whom I formerly was associating with.  But our 
goals are DRASTICALLY different.  The White Nationalist movement as a 
whole is heading in a direction that I cannot continue to go in.  My 
only allegiance is to GOD, my family and my wife and children to be.  May
all people of ALL RACES work toward bettering themselves and refrain from
the silliness and stupidity found in such movement as I once involved
myself with.  I learned the hard way, I guess, just how false these things
are, and how destructive their agendas and beliefs are.
Instead of reading this letter as a sweeping indictment of everyone, 
please consider the motive of my heart: love.  This letter is simply my 
humble attempt to share with others the lessons I have learned through 
my personal struggles of late.  And if just one person can somehow in 
some way benefit from what I have said, then all my struggles were more 
than worth it.

Humbly in God's service,

Rev. Ronald C. Schoedel, III


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