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Article 12820 of alt.revisionism:
Subject: Re: Israel's Identity
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 94 07:20:11 MDT
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From: Rick_Savage@nile.com (Rick Savage)

Kari Nenonen writes:
You write utter nonsense, Mr Savage. The core of both Judaism and Christianity
is love (even to your enemies). I don't believe in God, but I still believe
in Judao-Christian values. What you are trying to do is to broke those values.
What have you to give for them? Hate? Violence? A New dawn of the dark ages
of the thirties? I really feel sorry for you. A life so full of hate must
be a misserable one. Even if I don't believe in God, I know what it is to
be a Christian. And its really far from what you represent.<<<<


    What are you refering to?  It is common net-ettiqutte to quote the relevent
text that you are taking issue with.  Without knowing what you are responding to
I have to conclude that your above writing is "utter nonsense."
    Where do you get "hate" or "violence" from any of my messages?  The "New
dawn of the dark ages of the thirties" was a classic!  What inspired such a
thought in your mind?  Please quote what I specifically said that brought this
incredible image to your mind.
    Since you admitted that you don't believe in God, you probably have no
interest in His Word.  So discussing what the Bible says with you would be a
waste of time.  
   Save your libel and attempted character assisinations for someone else,
unless you want to make some serious criticism of SPECIFIC points I've made.

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Article 12821 of alt.revisionism:
Subject: Re: Identity: True Israel vs. the Imposters
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 94 07:31:08 MDT
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From: Rick_Savage@nile.com (Rick Savage)

Christ Stamper writes:
>Back when "Rick Savage" was spewing only on BBSes, a theory was developed 
that that was only a user name given for either a group posting on one 
account or one person posting text files.  Notice how the writing style 
varies dramatically. <<<< 

   We can now conclude that you are a hoplessly deluded crazy who believes in
conspiracy theories.  So by our role model, "Christian" Research Insitute, we
can conclude by their standard of judging that you are evil, hateful and
dangerously violent.  

>The name "Rick Savage" is that of a male porn star, BTW.

    Are you so lacking in any substantitive arguments that you must now resort
to personal flames?  How old are you?
    Rick Savage is a very COMMON name.  It is also the name of one of the Band
members of the metal band Def Leppard.  Figures you would know about the porn
star, gives us a better idea of where your mind is.

>Also, "Savage" used to have a tag line listing the Identity group 
>Scriptures For America.

    Really?  That's interesting.  The conspiracy get's even more interesting....

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Article 12842 of alt.revisionism:
Subject: Re: "Identity:  A Religion for White Racists"
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 94 23:16:28 MDT
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From: Rick_Savage@nile.com (Rick Savage)

Deaddog writes:
>Also, note what Rick leaves out.  It was charged that:

>>>They [Identity groups] believe all but the
>>>white race are inferior creations. 

So, what's the scoop Rick?  What do you believe about 'non-
white' races?  Inferior?  Superior?  Equal?  What about it,
why did you comment on everything but this?  Your silence is
speaking volumes. <<<
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   I can't speak for every schism that is labled as "identity" but from what I
have heard and studied out I can relate the following:  

   Every race was created by God, unique from all other races.  God called His
creation *good*.  
   He established the order of "kind after kind".  Every creature, beast and
"race" of people were to reproduce after their own kind.  Thus Christians should
love and strive to keep each race in it's pure form, for God called ALL of His
creation *good*. 
   Man's belief in equality is a hatred of the unique traits of every "race" God
created.  Man hates what God called *good* if he mixes the races through
interracial marriage which ultimately destroys the uniquess of each racial type.
Each race has it's superior traits and it's inferior ones.  There is no race
that can claim "superiority" in everything, the key point is that they are
*unique* and *good* in God's sight.  
   It is the duty of every Christian to preserve God's creation and defend the
order He established! ("Kind after kind")  The Christian ("Identity") message is
that of love for all races and a desire to preserve them as God created them. 
If anyone claiming to be a Christian, "Identity" or otherwise, preaches hatred
of any original racial type that God created in the beginning is not preaching
the Word of God, but rather that which is contrary to His Will.
   We are told in the parables of Christ that what God did not plant will be
uprooted and burned.  God did not create racially mixed people, that is man's
doing through his rejection of God's order of "kind after kind". 
   God's ways have always been "repent" or "perish".  Man can't blame God for
the evil man creates when he rebels against God's law-order.  Man has only
himself to blame if he is responsible for mixing the races.  Any suffering
brought about by the sin of inter-racial marriage is the responsibility of
rebellious man, not God!
   Israel was to be a blessing to the world.  They were given God's Law to be a
model and "light" to the world through their obedience to His ways.  Through
their obedience they would be blessed and prosper and from these blessings were
to teach the other people the Ways of God.  This is still Israel's duty.  
    His Word tells us, "All creation longs for the revealing of the Sons of
God".  True Israel, the Anglo-Saxon, Germanic, Celtic, Scandinavian and kindred
peoples, have been a blessing to the world and continue to be at the for-front
of fulfilling this duty.  When true Israel wakes up to their identity and duty
to their God, this will be manifested in an even greater way.  

   This is the true Christian message and the "Christian" Research Institute is
again exposed as the only "hate" group exposed in their groundless libel.


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Article 12843 of alt.revisionism:
Subject: Re: Israel's Identity
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From: Rick_Savage@nile.com (Rick Savage)

>>    Since you admitted that you don't believe in God, you probably 
>>have no interest in His Word.  So discussing what the Bible says 
>>with you would be a waste of time.

Deaddog writes:
Well, this certainly is in line with the general notion that
Christians are supposed to try to lead others to God. <<

   As I recall the context of the above remark was to someone
who failed to offer any basis for their pure personal hatred
for myself and the belief system I was defending.  I did not 
discern any sincere motive in the raw venom spewed at me so I 
don't believe my rebuke was out of line.  There is a proverb that
fits the situation nicely:  "Better a harsh rebuke than hidden
love".
   Scripture says, "don't throw your pearls before swine, lest
they trample them underfoot and render you assunder." (paraphased).
I don't believe I departed from that path.  The person I was
responding to was obviously viscious and had no interest in anything
but slander and ridicule.  
   But, you may have a point in one sense.  A higher way might have been
to "overcome evil with good."  So in a sense I must thank you for
your little sarcastic rebuke.  It will help me keep in mind a better
way in the future.
  

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Article 12844 of alt.revisionism:
Subject: Ken McVay's Libel posts - Identity
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 94 03:16:00 MDT
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From: Rick_Savage@nile.com (Rick Savage)

    Thanks for the rhetoric and anti-"Identity" propaganda.  You did a fair job
in painting all sorts of wonderful images with just enough disgust and hatred to
vilify your subject toward your own biased ends.  Whenever you want to get
serious send off the following text to be refuted by your best scholars with the
BIBLE!  In the mean-time you are doing nothing more than spouting "Jewish
Fables".

Identity: The Choice is Clear

     "Here's a paradox, a paradox, a most ingenious paradox: 
and anthropological fact, many Christians may have much more 
Hebrew-Israelite blood in their veins than most of their Jewish 
neighbors." (1)  --Alfred M. Lilienthal

     Could their possibly be any truth to this?  If so, it would 
mean that the majority of Christendom and the rest of society 
has misidentified the people most prominent in the Bible.  If 
Israel has been misidentified there is no doubt that major errors 
in doctrinal interpretation and application of Biblical prophecy 
have been made!
     There are a variety of stories regarding the Israelites and their 
modern-day identity.  It is not the purpose of this tract to relate 
another of these stories.  Instead, it will furnish you with the 
Trest of the story,' the true story regarding Israel's modern 
identity, the one found in the Scriptures and verified by 
archeology and history -- a story not usually told by most 
preachers.

SPIRITUAL ISRAEL

     A large segment of Christianity is being taught that God no 
longer has a plan for Tphysical Israel' under the New Covenant, 
and that He is now working with only a Tspiritual Israel.'  For 
example, in the January/February 1991 issue of TThe Last 
Trump,' Dr. Ed Moore claimed:
     "Hence, we can begin to see that being the children of 
Abraham (today under the New Covenant) has nothing to do 
with race." (2)
     In his book TClouds over America,' Leonard C. Lee 
concluded:
     "Since God rejected the Israelites as a nation, we can look 
for the fulfillment of His purposes only in [a] spiritual Israel. . .  
The [physical] Israelites have now passed off the stage of 
action. . ." (3)
     In essence, these men and others like them, are proclaiming 
that God has no NEW COVENANT (emphasis added, original 
in italics) plan for physical Israel.  Yet, contrast these statements 
with what the inspired writer of Hebrews wrote:
     "Behold days are coming, says the LORD when I will effect 
a *New Covenant* WITH the *House of Israel* and with the 
*House of Judah*. . ." (Hebrews 8:8).
     While some people attempt to spiritualize this passage of 
Scripture to fit their preconceived ideas or to harmonize it with 
their denomination's teachings, the Israelites cannot be 
spiritualized in this verse, and for three reasons.

     FIRST, the context will not allow it.  The very next verse 
dictates as to whether the Israelites spoken of in verse eight are 
to be deemed as being either physical or spiritual:
     "Not like the [Mosaic] covenant which I made with THEIR 
[The House of Israel's and the House of Judah's] *fathers on 
the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the 
land of Egypt*. . ." (Hebrews 8:9)   (emp. added)
     The people described in this passage, with whom the New 
Covenant was and is being made, are clearly the physical 
descendants of the PHYSICAL PEOPLE (emp. add.) whom 
Moses led out of Egypt.

     The SECOND reason Israel cannot be spiritualized is 
illustrated by the Old Testament passage from which Hebrews 
8:8-12 is quoted.  The author of Hebrews quoted the Prophet 
Jeremiah, and Jeremiah continued with the following:
     "Thus says YHWH (the LORD), who gives the sun for light 
by day, and the fixed order of the moon and the stars for light 
by day. . .  *If this fixed order departs from before Me...then 
the offspring of Israel also shall cease from being a nation 
before Me forever*.  Thus says YHWH, *If the heavens above 
can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out 
below, then I will also cast off the offspring of Israel. . ." 
(Jeremiah 31:35-37)
     Since the fixed order of the sun, moon and stars has not 
departed, and since the heavens have not been measured, and the 
depths of the earth searched out below, then it is quite apparent 
that God is still working with the physical descendants of 
Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.  If not, then God has lied.

     The THIRD reason the Israelites in Hebrews 8:8 cannot be 
spiritualized is because of the second witness found in Romans 
where the Apostle Paul declared:
     "For I could wish that I myself were accursed, separated 
from [the] Christ for the sake of my brethren, *my kinsmen 
according to the flesh, who are Israelites, to whom belong. . . the 
covenants*. . ."  (Romans 9:3,4)

     Not only do the previous three passages specifically declare 
that God made His New Covenant with *Israelites*, but there 
are many more New Testament passages which reveal that God 
continues to work with the *physical* nation of Israel to this 
day. (Matt. 1:21; 2:6; 10:6; 15:24; Luke 1:16,33,54-55,68,72-
73,77; 19:9,10; 22:30; Acts 1:6; 5:31; 13:23,24; Romans 4:1; 
11:1,2; James 1:1; Rev. 7:3-8; 21:10-12, etc.)
 
TODAY'S JEWS

     Nearly all of Christendom is being taught that today's 
"Jews" represent Israel.  Yet, how many of those same people 
have ever been taught that the Bible warns us of Israelite 
impostors?  That's right, *non-Israelites* who fallaciously 
claim to be *Israelites*:
     "I know. . . The blasphemy by those who say they are Jews 
[i.e., Judahites, thus Israelites] and are not, but are a synagogue 
of Satan."  (Revelation 2:9)
     Also, how many Christians have been told that there is 
actually a people who admit to being these impostors?  For 
example, TThe 1980 Jewish Almanac's' first chapter entitled 
"Identity Crisis," begins with the following admission:
     "Strictly speaking, it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a 
TJew' or to call a contemporary Jew an TIsraelite' or a 
THebrew.'" (4)
     This fact is confirmed by several other Jewish sources and 
individual Jews.  For example:  The Jewish Encyclopedia 
(1905); The Standard Jewish Encyclopedia (1966); Nathan M. 
Pollock, Professor of Medieval Jewish History of Tel Aviv; 
Bernard Lazare; Robert Quillan; Dr. Benjamin Freedman; 
Arthur Koestler; James Yaffe; Paul Meyer and many more.
     Dr. Oscar Levy went so far as to declare:
     "And are not they [today's Jews] the inventors of the 
Chosen People myth?" (5)

     Why hasn't Christendom and the American public been told 
that over 90 percent of the people known as "Jews" are *not* 
descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob?  History reveals they 
are actually descendants of the fierce Turkish, Mongolian 
Khazar tribes which roamed the steppes of southern Russia and 
who adopted the religion of Judaism between the 7th and 9th 
Centuries.  Today, the Khazars are known as "Jews" not 
because of race, but because of religion. (6)
     As stated, the Bible declares that there would be Israelite 
impostors, these impostors have inadvertently or deliberately 
identified themselves by their own writings.  Therefore, if 
"they" are not true Israel, someone else must be!

TRUE ISRAEL

     God provided Scriptural clues for Identifying Israel of old.  
There is no debate that ancient Israel fulfilled most of these 
marks and was identified by them.  But even more exciting is 
the fact that these very same features help us to identify Israel 
today!  Listed below are fifteen national, geographical and 
spiritual aspects out of hundreds of Scriptural clues that 
positively identify Israel.  Ask yourself, what modern-day 
people do they identify?

5 NATIONAL ASPECTS

-  Israel was to become a great and mighty nation.
   (Genesis 12:1-3
-  Israel was to become a vast multitude of people.
   (Genesis 22:17)
-  Israel was to form a multitude of nations.
   (Genesis 17:4-6)
-  Israel was to rule over other nations.
   (Deuteronomy 15;6)
-  Israel was to be a blessing to all nations.
   (Genesis 22:18)

5 GEOGRAPHICAL ASPECTS

-  Israel was to have a new home, other than Canaan Land.
   (2 Samuel 7:10)
-  Israel's new land was to be inhabited by people gathered from 
many nations.
   (Ezekiel 38:8)
-  Israel was to have a land of unwalled villages, without walls, 
bars or gates.
   (Ezekiel 38:11)
-  Israel was to have a land of great agricultural wealth.
   (Deuteronomy 28:8-11)
-  Israel's land was described as being the "camp of the 
saints." 
   (Revelations 20:7-9)

5 SPIRITUAL ASPECTS

-  Israel was to have a new religion and be saved by YHWH (the 
LORD).
   (Jeremiah 31:7,31-37).
-  Israel was to carry the gospel to all the world.
   (Isaiah 49:3-6)
-  Israel was to be the only nation given God's Law.
   (Psalm 147:19-20)
-  Israel was to be blind for the most part to her identity.
   (Isaiah 42:16-19)
-  Israel was to be called by a new name. 
   (Isaiah 62:1,2)

     If Israel exists today, as she must, there is only one people 
whom all these identifying marks fit -- and they certainly do not 
represent the modern-day "Jews."  They do however, describe 
perfectly the Anglo-Saxon, Celtic, Germanic, Scandinavian, and 
kindred peoples; the multitude of nations who became a great 
nation, with a new home, a new religion, and who have blessed 
the world with the gospel of Yahshua and numerous other 
blessings.
     Indeed, Alfred Lilienthal (a "Jew") understood what most 
Celto-Saxons do not:  Many Christians have much more 
Hebrew-Israelite blood in their veins than do their modern self-
styled "Jewish" neighbors.

CONCLUSION

     The Prophet Isaiah spoke of a time in his future when "the 
eyes of those who see will not be blinded, and the ears of those 
who hear will listen, and the mind of the hasty will discern 
truth."  (Isaiah 32:3,4)  It is the purpose of this short tract to 
assist in the continual fulfillment of Isaiah's prophecy in regard 
to the true identity of Israel.  We have very briefly demonstrated 
and provided evidence for the following three facts:

-  God *has* a New Covenant plan for physical Israel today.

-  Today's "Jews" *are not* Israelites, but instead impostors.

-  The Celto-Saxon peoples *are* Israelites, the true 
descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

     You now have the rest of the story, the true story concerning 
Israel's modern-day identity; it is up to you what you do with it.  
It is our prayer that Isaiah's prophecy will be fulfilled in you, 
and that you will do your part in awakening other Israelites to 
their identity, and to their responsibility to God as His people.

BIBLIOGRAPHY:

1 - Alfred M. Lilienthal, Jr., "What Price Israel" (Chicago: 
Henry Regnery Company, 1953) 223
2 - Dr. Ed Moore, "The Last Trump" (January/February, 
1991) 7
3 - Leonard C. Lee, "Clouds Over America" (Washington: 
Review and Herald Publishing Association, 1948) 71
4 - "The Jewish Almanac", Compiled and Edited by Richard 
Siegel and Carl Rheins (New York: Bantam Books, 1980) 3
5 - Dr. Oscar Levy, preface, "The World Significance of the 
Russian Revolution," George Pitt Rivers (Oxford, England: 
Basil Blackwell, 1920) vi
6 - Arthur Koestler, "The Thirteenth Tribe" (New York: 
Random House, Inc., 1976)

For a more exhaustive study regarding Israel's modern-day 
identity, write:

Mission To Israel Ministries
PO Box 248
Scottsbluff, NE 69363


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Article 12845 of alt.revisionism:
Subject: An "open letter" to Ken Mcvay
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 94 08:12:08 MDT
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From: Rick_Savage@nile.com (Rick Savage)

(a little dated, but still applicable)

An O P E N  L E T T E R to any Minister who teaches:
"the Jews are ISRAEL"
 
From Paster Sheldon Emry  (Laymen - Please Read)
------------------
"With all thy getting get understanding" Proverbs 4:7

DEAR MINISTER OR BIBLE TEACHER:
     I understand you believe that the people we know today as "Jews" are God's
"Chosen People," the Israel people of the Bible.  You, and others, call them
"The Chosen Race,"  "God's Chosen People,"  "Israel,"  "The Children of Israel,"
and other very complimentary names in relation to God.  I also understand you
believe the Jewish occupation of Palestine to be the prophetic "return of
Israel" to "their" land.
     Since it is Israelites "to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and
the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the
promises" (ROMANS 9:4) it behooves us as Christian Americans to know as much
about God's Chosen Israel and His Book as we can.
     The information on these pages has been compiled in Christian love and a
desire to stimulate your study of "the People of the Book".

I S R A E L

1.  Regarding the migration of the Jews to Palestine: by 1976, 28 years after
the United Nations' approval of the Jewish occupation of that land, there were
only 2.9 million Jews there compared to over 8 million in the United States.

3.  Of all the followers of Judaism in the world, less than 17% are now in
Palestine.

4.  God prophesied to dispersed Israel:  "I will take you from among the
heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own
land."  (EZEKIEL 36:24)  Are these Jews being gathered from heathen lands? - or
from Christian?

5.  God goes on:  "Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be
clean...A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within
you:  And I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, And I will give
you a heart of flesh."  Should this mean the Israelites were to become
Christians in their new land?

6.  The balance of EZEKIEL 36 promises great material blessings which would
bring awe from among the heathen.  The Jewish Committee for Israeli, to the
contrary, admits that if it were not for American money and fro the Israeli
Bonds sold in America, ISRAELI WOULD BE BROKE AND WOULD COLLAPSE!  (Read EZEKIEL
36)

7.  Most Christian ministers preach from EZEKIEL 38 and 39 to prophesy an
invasion of Jewish Palestine by Russia (Gog and Magog).  But 38:11 describes the
land of Israel to be invaded as "the land of unwalled villages...them that are
at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having
neither bars nor gates."  Israeli villages are walled and its borders wire, mine
fields, machine gun nests, and tanks to keep out the "heathen" who are in awe,
not of the Jew's blessings, but of their armaments AND AMERICA'S PROMISE TO
PROTECT THEM!

JEWS "ALL OF ISRAEL?"

8.  Some of you preach the Jews who came back from Babylon (4th century B.C.)
are "all of Israel," but Dr. Scofield states on page 529 of THE SCOFIELD
REFERENCE BIBLE, "Probably individuals from all of the tribes returned to
Jerusalem under Zerubbabel, Ezra and Nehemiah; but, speaking broadly, the
dispersion of the ten tribes, Ephraim-Israel, still continues: NOR CAN THEY NOW
BE POSITIVELY IDENTIFIED."  In other words, of the Israelites dispersed in the
ASSYRIAN CAPTIVITY (2 KINGS 17:6-23), most never returned to Palestine AND THEIR
DECENDANTS ARE NOT NOW KNOW AS "JEWS!"

9.  Cruden, compiler of CRUDEN'S CONCORDANCE, has stated:  "And it is generally
believed that there was no return from this captivity (refering to the Assyrian
Captivity of the Ephraim-Israel, or northern, kingdom), and that the 10 Tribes
never came back after their dispersion."  So we see that both Scofield and
Cruden agree there must now be descendants of Israelites NOT KNOWN AS "JEWS".

10.  Flavius Josephus, in his ANTIQUITIES OF THE JEWS, says in Book XI, Chapter
V, "Wherefore there are but two tribes in Asia and Europe subject to the Romans,
while the ten tribes are beyond the Euphrates till now, and are an immense
multitude, and not to be estimated by numbers."  He wrote about the time of
Christ.

11.  The 1905 JEWISH ENCYCLOPEDIA, Vol. 21, page 249 reads:  "If the Ten Tribes
have disappeared, they must exist UNDER A DIFFERENT NAME."  Again, they must be
a people NOT called "Jews."

13.  Many other Jewish sources verify that those we call "Jews" are NOT all of
Israel.  Isaac Leiser, in THE JEWISH RELIGION, Vol. 1, page 256, writes, "By
this return of the captives (from Babylon) the Israelitish nation was not
restored, SINCE THE TEN TRIBES...WERE YET IN BANISHMENT."

14.  THE JEWISH CHRONICLE, May 2, 1879:  "There has always been, however, an
unwillingness to admit that a fate which has befallen so many nations has
overtaken the Ten Tribes.  Why should they have been less tenacious of life than
their brethren of Judah?  Nay, the Scriptures speak of a future restoration of
Israel, which is clearly to include both Judah and Ephraim.  THE TEN TRIBES ARE
CERTAINLY IN EXISTENCE, ALL THAT HAS TO BE DONE IS TO DISCOVER WHICH PEOPLE
REPRESENT THEM."  (emphasis added.)

15.  The JEWISH QUARTERLY REVIEW of October 1888 carried an article by Dr. Ad.
Neubauer titled "Where are the Ten Tribes?"  It is too long to be quoted in its
entirety, but he does arrive at the conclusion the Ten Tribes are still
"missing."  Do you still insist the present-day "Jew" represents "all of
Israel?"

ANCIENT ISRAELITES NOT "JEWS"

16.  Most of you ministers call Abraham a "Jew", but no people in the Holy
Scripture were called "Jews" until 2 Kings 16:6, over 1,000 years after Abraham,
Isaac and Jacob!

17.  You preachers often speak of the Exodus as being the deliverance of the
"Jews" from Egypt; but the Holy Bible calls them "Israelites,"  the "House of
Jacob,"  "Hebrews,"  "Israel," and God calls them "the children of Israel" 122
times in the Book of Exodus.  Neither Moses nor God EVER called them "Jews," yet
you do.  Why?

18.  You often quote the promises in GENESIS to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as
referring to the Jews.  In Genesis 17:5, God promised Abraham he would be "a
father of many nations."  The Jews are not "many" nations.

19.  In GENESIS 22:12 God said to Abraham, "In Isaac shall they seed be called."
Are the Jews called "sons of Isaac," or "Isaacsons," or "Saacsons," or "Saxons?"

ISRAEL IN FULFILLED PROPHECY

20.  Abraham's seed were to be as "The sands of the sea" as promised in GENESIS
22:17, In GENESIS 24:60 Rebekah, Isaac's wife, was promised to be "mother of
thousands of millions."  At the time of the Exodus, Moses prophesied to Israel
that God was to make of them "a thousand times so many as ye are."  (DEUT 1:11) 
There were over 3,000,000 Israelites then, and over 15,000,000 at the time of
David, yet you insist that 15,000,000 Jews today, 3000 years after David, are
"all of Israel!"  How do you give honor to God when your teachings make Him a
liar?

21.  The "New Covenant," as recorded in JEREMIAH 31, was made with "the house of
Israel."  Hebrews 8 verifies it with "the house of Israel and with the house of
Judah."  Yet your teaching is to the effect that this Covenant, which was to
make Israel a Christian people, just didn't work with "God's People the Jews," 
but that a "Gentile" Race, the White Race, somehow just happened to accept the
"New Covenant."  Just who is this "Race" which seems to have "usurped" Israel's
place?

22.  Israel was divided after the death of Solomon.  Millions of Israelites of
the Northern Kingdom called "the house of Israel" went into the Assyrian
captivity after 740 B. C. and were lost to Bible History.  But secular histories
recorded millions of the White Race appeared suddenly in that same area about
700 B. C.!  They became the Christian people of Europe and then America.  Hosea
had prophesied to the house of Israel before they went into captivity, "Yet the
number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea...and it shall
come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not My
people, there is shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God." 
In Europe, America, South Africa, and Australia, where we are told we are NOT
God's People (Israel), we are told by the millions that we "are the sons of the
living God!"

23  You insist that Jesus came to the Jews, but in John 10:25 Jesus said to the
Jews, "But ye believed me not BECAUSE YE ARE NOT OF MY SHEEP  (emphasis added) 
as I said unto you.  My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow
Me."  Which people are the "sheep" who knew Him and have followed Him the last
1,900 years?  

24.  At the time of Judah Kingdom was destroyed in 586 B. C. by the King of
Babylon, the prophet Jeremiah prophesied to the house of Israel, "You are my
battle ax and weapons of war.  With you I will break in pieces the nations, and
with you I will destroy kingdoms."  SInce that time have the Jews broken up
heathen nations and destroyed pagan rule?

25.  Airplanes were prophesied for Israel.  "Who are these that fly as a cloud,
and as the doves to their windows?"  (ISAIAH 60:8)  What people make and fly 99%
of the world's airplanes?

26.  "The abundance of the sea shall be converted unto thee."  (ISAIAH 60:5)
What people build and operate the great merchant and fishing fleets of the
earth?

27.  "In DEUTERONOMY 15:6  God promised Israel that "Thou shalt lend unto many
nations, but thou shalt not borrow: and thou shalt reign over many nations, but
they shall not reign over thee."  What people lend and give money to the heathen
nations?  What people have always been rulers of the heathen, but have never had
any other Race rule over them?

28.  A detailed blessing was given to Joseph through Moses in DEUTERONOMY
33:13-16.  "And of Joseph he said, Blessed of the LORD be his land. (his own
land separate from the rest of Israel?) for the precious things of heaven
(spiritual) for the dew, and for the deep that coucheth beneath (rain and wealth
of the seas), And for the precious fruits brought froth by the sun, and for the
precious things put forth by the moon (abundant harvest of agricultural
products)  And for the chief things of the ancient mountains, and for the
precious things of the lasting hills, And for the precious things of the earth
and fulness thereof (mineral wealth, oil and coal, gas, etc.)  and for the good
will of Him that dwelt in the bush (the favor of God, who appeared to Moses in
the bush) let the blessings come upon the head of Joseph."  This prophesy
promised Joseph's descendants great material wealth, blessings and protection. 
One Race of people on this earth have always had abundant harvests.  All others
have always been short of food.  One Race mines the ores, drills the oil wells,
digs the coal and converts the "precious things of the earth" into the goods and
services of "Modern civilization."  Other Races live as they did millenniums
ago!

29.  Israel was the only people ever promised by God that He would answer their
prayers and watch over them.  What people have prayed to the God of Abraham,
Isaac and Jacob down through the last score of centuries, have had their prayers
answered, and have been prospered by Him while the other Races sit in heathen
darkness?  If the White, Nordic Race is REALLY just like the colored Races, why
did the God of Abraham, choose ONLY the white Race in which to establish HIS
WORSHIP?  Why are only WHITE nations known as CHRISTIAN nations?

30.  In PSALM 147 God said, "He sheweth His Word unto Jacob, His statutes and
His judgements unto Israel, HE HATH NOT DEALT SO WITH ANY NATION AS FOR HIS
JUDGEMENTS THEY HAVE NOT KNOWN THEM."  The White Race prints and worships from
millions of copies of "His statutes and His judgements:" and only Israel was to
have them.  Does this make God a liar; or is the White Nordic Race Israel?

31.  In MATTHEW 15:24 Jesus said, "I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the
house of Israel."  Was His entire mission a farce?  Your teaching seems to make
it so.

32.  In ISAIAH 62:2 God said to Israel, "Thou shalt be called by a new name
which the mouth of the Lord shall name."  HOSEA 2:17 reads, "They shall no more
be remembered by their name."  In ISAIAH 65 God said to the enemies of His
servant Israel, "And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto My chosen: for
the Lord GOD shall slay thee, AND CALL HIS SERVANTS BY ANOTHER NAME."  (emphasis
added)  These "enemies" are yet called by their ancient name of "Jew," but
Israel lost her name and identity, became the "Caucasian" Race (from the
mountains of our captivity), and now the "Christian" nations, named after the
Name of our God and our Redeemer, the Lord Jesus Christ, FULFILLING HIS
PROPHECIES TO ISRAEL!"

33.  Through JEREMIAH the Lord God told Israel, "I will take you one of a city,
and two of a family and bring you to Zion:  And I will give you pastors
according to mine heart, which shall feed you with knowledge and understanding."
(3:14-15)  God brought over 40 million Caucasians to America (Zion) in one 50
year period, the greatest mass migration in all of human history, AND THEY HAD
BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN MINISTERS!  Yet you preach the migration of a handful of
atheistic and agnostic "Jews" to old Palestine, with their Rabbis who curse the
Name of Jesus Christ, is "the fulfillment of the prophecies of the regathering
of God's People Israel to their land!"  What nonsense you preach from God's
pulpits.

ESAU-EDOM AND THE "JEWS

34.  In the GENESIS 25 story of Esau selling the birthright to Jacob, we read
that he sold it for "red pottage...therefore was his name called Edom."  Edom
means "Red."

35.  GENESIS 28:9 tells us that ESAU went "unto Ishmael and took unto the wives
he had Mahalath the daughter of Ishmael,"  GENESIS 36:2 says he also "took his
wives of the daughters of Canaan; Adah the daughter of Elon the Hittite, and
Aholibaman the daughter of Anah the Daughter of Zibeon the Hivite."  So these
descendants of Esau would be called ISHMAELITES, CANAANITES, HITTITES, AND
HIVITES!  The very people God later ordered Israel NOT to marry!

36.  God makes sure we know of the separation of Esau and Jacob (Israel), for
GENESIS 36:6 tells us, "Esau took his wives, and his sons, and his
daughters...and went into the country from the face of his brother Jacob." 
Therefore Esau's offspring would NOT take husbands and wives from the Hebrews,
BUT FROM THE ISHMAELITES AND CANAANITES AMONG WHOME THEY DWELT!  In a few
generations they would be almost full-blooded Ishmaelites and CANAANITES.

37.  The rest of GENESIS 36 tells us four times that Esau "is Edom" and the
"father of Edomites."  Adding this up we would expect Esau's progeny to be known
as Ishmaelites, Canaanites, Hittites, Hivites, or collectively as "EDOMITES." 
Remember as you read on that Edom means "Red."

38.  Several hundred years later when God delivered the Israelites from Egypt,
NUMBERS 20 tells us THE FIRST PEOPLE TO FIGHT THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL WERE THE
"EDOMITES!"  All the books of history in the Bible tell of enmity and war
between Israel and "Edom."  AS I've shown, the Exodus Israelites were NOT called
"Jews".  Only Israelites of the Judah Kingdom (500 years after the Exodus) were
called Jews, from the name "Judahite," (2 Kings 16:6)

39.  In the book of Esther, when the king sent out the decree to protect the
"Jews" (who were the Judahites of the Babylonian captivity), "many of the people
of the land BECAME JEWS: for the fear of the Jews fell upon them."  (ESTHER
8:17) This king ruled "from India unto Ethiopia" compassing the territory
occupied by the Hittites, Hivites, Jebusites and Canaanites, so it is probable
that tens of thousands of these people collectively known as "EDOM" professed
the name "Jew" to escape the king's wrath.  They were NOT descendants of
Jacob-Israel, though they had now become "Jews."  This was 500 years BEFORE
Christ.

40.  EZRA 9:1 after the Jewish remnant returned to Palestine, we find they took
wives among the Hittites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Jebusites, Ammonites,
Moabites, Egyptians, and the Amorites; thereby adding more of "Edom" to the
"Jews" who lived in Jerusalem at the coming of Jesus Christ.

41.  Coming down through history to near the time of Christ we find that Flavius
Josephus states that the "Idumeans" (Edomites) became part of "Jewry," as we
have seen from the book of ESTHER.  This would explain why some "Jews" believed
the Christ, and other "Jews" hated Him.  Those who believed were simply the ones
of Israelite ancestry; while those who hated Him were of Esau-Edom!  Now go back
and read #23 and 32 before you go on!

42.  The BIBLICA ENCYCLOPEDIA, Vol. 2, Col. 1187, says that the Edomites are
part of Jewry.  The scientist and historian Dr. David Davidson wrote: "Indeed
the Edomites later became completely absorbed in Jewry and under their
aggressive intrusion the Jews became racially the medium of expression for the
Edomite ideal for which Herod the Great had first given political formation. 
The Edomite intrusion into Judaism AT EVERY HISTORICAL POINT OF CONTACT is fully
discussed in the volumes of the Cambridge Ancient History.  The History of the
latest phase of the intrusion (absorption or inter-marriage) is in the summary
of the Encyclopedia Biblica, Volume 2, Col 1187 (he then quotes that).  Even the
fact that the Edomites have at length BECOME JEWS was soon completely forgotten
by the exponents of Jewish tradition."  (It is this "tradition" which Christian
ministers have been tricked into preaching instead of the truth.)

43.  The JEWISH ENCYCLOPEDIA, edition of 1925, Vol. 5, page 41, states "Edom is
in modern Jewry."

KHAZARS AND THE "JEWS"

44.  H. G. Wells, in his great OUTLINE OF HISTORY verifies what we have just
read, that millenniums ago the Edomites became "Jews."  But then he goes on and
gives us another trial to follow in correctly identifying the people today "who
call themselves Jews."  He says that these "Idumeans" joined with a "Turkish"
people of Southern Russia (the Khazars), who also "became Jews," and BOTH make
up the present day "Jews."  Mr. Wells concludes, "The main part of Jewry NEVER
WAS IN JUDEA AND HAD NEVER COME OUT OF JUDEA!" (emphasis added)  How about
reading some history Reverend Minister?

45.  Funk & Wagnalls JEWISH ENCYCLOPEDIA has a map showing the religions of
Europe in the 10th century.  And area north of the Black sea is marked "JEWS
(Chazars)" and the two words are used INTERCHANGEABLY in many old Jewish books. 
Speaking of these "Jews."  Col. John Beaty, former U.S. Intelligence Officer,
writes in his book IRON CURTAIN OVER AMERICA, "As time passed, it came about
that these Khazar people of mixed non-Russian stock, who hated the Russians and
lived under Babylonian Talmudic law, became known in the western world, from
their place of residence and their legal-religious code, as Russian Jews."  Tens
of thousands of these non-Israelite "Jews" migrated to America prior to 1880. 
Millions have come since.

46.  Prof. Roland B. Dixon, of Harvard, wrote in 1923, "The most important
single factor, however, in the differentiation of these Jews of the Asiatic
borderland...WAS THE CONVERSION TO JUDAISM IN THE EIGHTH CENTURY OF THE KHAZARS.
In these (Khazars)...We may in all probability see the origin of the great mass
of the east European Jews of today."

47.  Nathan M. Pollock, A Khazar-Jew, spent 40 years researching the origin of
his fellow "Jews".  He says that six out of ten in Palestine, AND NINE OUT OF
TEN IN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE (AMERICA) ARE NOT REAL JEWS, BUT DESCENDANTS OF
THE FIERCE KHAZAR TRIBES WHICH ROAMED THE STEPPES OF SOUTHERN RUSSIA MANY
CENTURIES AGO."  He states that the names Halperin, Halpern, Alpert, Galpern,
etc. are 100% Khazar.  Also Kaplan, Caplon, Koppel, Kogan, Kaganovich
(Russianized) and similar derivative names.  (THE JEWS THAT AREN'T, San Diego
Union. Aug 28, 1966) His findings, and many others too numerous to list in this
tract, corroborate the Khazar ancestry of most modern "Jews."

48.  The Khazar-Jews of Europe and America have always had an affinity to their
Mongol brethren of Asia.  The Jewish movie "czars" of filthy, corrupting
Hollywood are often called "moguls," a term dating back to the Khan "Moguls," or
"rulers," of Genghis Khan.  It is simply a Mongol identification, NOT an
Israelite one.

MODERN "JUDAISM" COMES FROM BABYLON

49.  Professor H. Graetz, in his long HISTORY OF THE JEWS, Vol. II, Pub. 1893,
page 631, says of the Jewish Talmud, among many other things, "The Babylonian
Talmud is especially distinguished from the Jerusalem or Palestine
Talmud...(then follows the comparisons)...it was for this reason that the
BABYLONIAN rather than the Jerusalem Talmud became the fundamental possession of
the Jewish Race, its life breath, its very soul..."

50.  In Harmsworth's HISTORY OF THE WORLD is a section on "The Hebrew Peoples" 
written by Dr. H. Winckler, L.M. King, Dr. R. G. Brandis, and H. R. Hall.  On
pages 1781-4, Vol. 3 they show that, "Judaism was not evolved in Judah; it was
in Babylon that Judaism first became that which it was and still is."  In other
words, JUDAISM, rather than being the religion of ancient Israel, as you tell
your flock, IS THE RELIGION OF ISRAEL'S ANCIENT, PAGAN ENEMY, BABYLON!

51.  In the same book above the same authors say the distinction between Israel
and Judah "can best be expressed in the phrase, which may sound paradoxical, but
yet aptly characterizes the true relationship of the two people:  THE ISRAELITES
WERE NOT JEWS!"  (emphasis added)

52.  Quoting H. G. Wells' OUTLINE OF HISTORY again, "Judaism is indeed the
reconstructed political ideal of many shattered peoples...it is to the
Phoenician contingent and to Aramean accessions IN BABYLON that the financial
and commercial tradition is to be ascribed."  So even their "economic" ideas
come from Babylon!  It is much more than coincidental that "BABYLON THE GREAT,
MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH" (REV. 17 & 18) is an "economic"
system of oppression!

COMMUNISM AND THE "JEWS"

53.  Speaking of an "economic system of oppression," that fits communism
(socialism), and Rev. Denis Fahey, in his THE MYSTICAL BODY OF CHRIST IN MODERN
WORLD writes, "According to the data furnished by the Soviet press, out of 556
important functionaries of the Bolshevik State (1918-1919)...457 (were) Jews." 
(Reverend, as you know by reading the precious points, the name "Jew" no longer
means "Israelite", so you know the ones we speak of from here on are of
Esau-Edom, Khazar, and Mongol ancestry, now called "Jews")

54.  Six men led the Bolshevik revolt in Russia: Lenin, Trotsky, Zinoviev,
Kamenev, Sverdlev, and Lunacharsky.  Five were Jews, Trotsky's real name was Lev
Bronstein, Lenins was Hiam Goldmann.  Their plan was written by Karl Marx, son
of a Jew Rabbi.

55.  Michal Hrushevsky in his A HISTORY OF THE UKRAINE, Yale University Press,
1941, says, "In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of JEWISH WORKERS in Poland
and Lithuania...They engaged in revolutionary activity upon a large scale, and
their energy made them THE SPEARHEAD OF THE (communist) PARTY."

56.  You know the story of Lenin and the sealed train crossing Europe with his
followers to take control of the Russian revolution.  But did you know that "Out
of a list of 165 names published, 23 are Russian, 3 Georgian, 4 Armenian, 1
German, and 128 JEWISH?"  (The SURRENDER OF AN EMPIRE, N.H. Webster, 1931, p.
77)

57.  The same source above states, "At about the same time, Trotsky (Jew)
arrived from the United States, followed by over 300 Jews from the East End of
New York,"  (page 73)

58.  Edward Ross in his RUSSIAN BOLSHEVIK REVOLUTION writes, "This is why
refugees, obscure to us although not to the Russians, who in exile had been
obliged to work in our steel mills and tailor shops for a living, former
residents of New York's Eastside, '...will rise to be the heads of the soviets
and, later, cabinet ministers of a government ruling a tenth of the human race."
Ross was in FAVOR of them and he ends this portion with, "In all modern history
there is no romance like it!"

59.  Frank Britton put it a little more bluntly, "Soon these hords of returning
Jews would exercise the power of life and death over 150 million Christian
Russians.  Soon every factory, every government bureau, every school district,
and every army would function under the gimlet eye of a Jewish Commisar.  Soon
the blood of human beings would be oozing from under the doors of the communist
execution chambers as tens of thousands of Christian men and women were
butchered like cattle in a slaughterhouse.  Soon five million landowners would
be deliberately starved to death as part of a premeditated plan.  Soon a move
would be under way to exterminate the gentile leader class of the entire nation
by murdering every Christian factory owner, and lawyer, and government leader,
and army officer, and every other person who had been, or might be, a potential
leader.  soon the standing population of the slave-labor camps would exceed 16
million.  Soon every church and cathedral would be gutted, and every priest and
preacher would become a criminal in his own community.  Soon Russia would have a
zombie-proletariat, docile, willing to work, easily controlled, incapable of
revolt...When the Bolsheviks came to power, they systematically undertook to
destroy every vestige of opposition by exterminating the uper classes of Russian
society.  The fury of the RED Terror can be explained ONLY AS A MANIFESTATION OF
JEWISH HATRED AGAINST CHRISTIAN CIVILIZATION.  (emphasis added)...Such was the
'romance' of the Bolshevik revolution."  Frank Britton gives many pages of
documented terror, and then sums it up, "the total effect was much the same as
it would be in any country.  With its small middle and upper class exterminated,
Russia's peasant and worker population accepted Jewish Bolshevism without
protest.  The Russian masses, deprived of its spokesmen and leaders WAS SIMPLY
INCAPABLE OF COUNTER-REVOLUTION.  That was what the RED Terror set out to
accomplish." (above from BEHIND COMMUNISM, 96 pages, profusely illustrated and
documented.)  Without going into more gory details of the Jewish murder of
millions of their Christian captives, of which you can plead ignorance, it
hardly seems possible you can be ignorant of more recent news about "communism,
such as:

60.  After World War II the following Jews ruled in Europe:  Rakosi in Hungary,
Jacob Berman in Poland, Anna Pauker in Roumania, Rudophy Slansky in
Czecholslovakia, and Kagonovich in Russia (through Stalin). Even non-Jews such
as Tito of Yugoslavia were controlled by Jews.  John Gunther in BEHIND THE IRON
CURTAIN writes of the Jew Mosa Pijade, "He is Tito's mentor -- whatever
ideological structure Tito may have, he got from his shrewd old man."

61.  In America the Jew Gerhart Eisler ran the Communist Party from 1935 to
1947.  His right hand man was J. Peters whose real name was Goldberger and he is
Jewish.  Today, 6 of the top 9 Party officers are Jews.

62.  In 1945 6 men were arrested fro stealing government secrets in the
"Amerasia" case. 3 were Jews.

63.  In 1946, a Canadian spy ring was broken up.  Among its members were Dr.
Ravmond Bover (wife Anita Cohen - Jewess), David Shugar, J. Isador Gottheir,
Israel Halperin, and Samuel Carr (Cohen), Its leader was Fred Rose (Rosenberg).

64.  In 1949 the 12 members of the National Secretariat of the American
Communist Party were tried under then existing laws.  6 of the 12 were known
Jews, 3 more may have been.  All were convicted and served short sentences or
were fined.

65.  In 1950 ten Hollywood writers and directors were convicted of contempt of
Congress for refusing to answer quesitons about their communist connections.  9
WERE JEWS and 6 of them were party members!

66.  After the conviction of the above, the 2nd string "politburo" took over the
American Communist Party.  Of these 21, 14 were Jews, 1 was mistress of a Jew,
and 2 were colored.

67.  The spy trials of the 1950's, which you must remember, were almost 100%
Jewish.  The Jew Klaus Fuchs (who was admitted to the U. S. at the request of
Albert Einstein) was found out first; then followed Harry Gold, David
Greenglass, Abraham Brothman, Miriam Moskowitz, Sidney Weinbaum, Julius and
Ethel Rosenberg (who received the death sentence) and Morton Sobell.  Before the
whole thing was over others such as J. Robert Oppenheimer, Frank Oppenheimer,
and a "Steve Nelson" came under investigation.  "Steve Nelson" turned out to be
a Mr. Mesarosh, a jew, and his contact was a Joseph W. Weinberg of the
University of Minnesota!

68.  "Civil Rights" movements, negro agitation organizations such as the NAACP,
CORE, SNCC, etc are organized and controlled by Jews.  The "anti-war," "peace,"
"Women's Lib," and other "minority" agitation and revolutionary groups have
mostly Jews in their upper leadership.  Hasn't this made you at least curious?

You and the "Jews"
     The evidence proving the present day "Jews" are NOT "the house of Israel"
is endless.  The White Christian nations are the seed of Abraham through whom
all the world is to be blessed.  WE ARE ISRAEL!
     We'll continue fulfilling Israel's appointed destiny.  Christ's Blood has
sealed to us the promises made unto our fathers Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.  You
can share that destiny with us; or you can continue with Esau-Edom until the day
when "the house of Jacob shall be as a fire and the house of Joseph a flame, and
THE HOUSE OF ESAU FOR STUBBLE, and they shall kindle in them, and devour them;
AND THERE SHALL NOT BE ANY REMAINING OF THE HOUSE OF ESAU: for the LORD hath
spoken it...And Saviours shall come upon Mount Zion to judge the mount of Esau:
and the kingdom shall be the LORD'S "  (emphasis added).

AUTHOR'S COMMENTS
    History and Scripture prove the people known as "Jews" today are not only
NOT Israel, but are actually the ENEMIES OF ISRAEL.  For God, who knows the end
from the beginning, foresaw all this, as we have seen from the Holy Word. 
Genesis 28:9 and 36:2 show Esau married wives of Ishmael and Canaanites, Genesis
36 says, "Esau is Edom...Esau, who is Edom...Esau, the father of the Edomites in
Mount Seir".  Looking at the antiChrist activities of the modern "Jew," and
knowning they are Esau-Edom (Khazars), you can see whyt he Bible says, "As it is
written, Jacob (Israel) I loved, BUT ESAU HAVE I HATED." (Romans 9:13).  YOu
should look up the prophecies for Esau, Edom, and Mount Seir when you want to
preach about "them which say they are Jews, AND ARE NOT, but are the synagogue
of satan."  (Rev 2:9; 3:9)  THEY ARE ENTIRELY DIFFERENT THAN THE PROPHECIES
ABOUT ISRAEL.  Instead of a glorious future as God's Chosen, the descendants of
Esau-Edom Jewry are slated for total destruction.  (See OBADIAH and others). 
Their claim to Palestine, and their claim that America should help, is based on
the false identity provided them by their own propaganda, fortified by your
erroneous teachings.
     Henry Ford, founder of the Ford Motor Co., in Chapter 2 of his monumnetal
and almost forgotten book 'THE INTERNATIONAL JEW' states, "There is a mission
for tthe pulpit to liberate the Chruch from what the New Testament Scriputers
call 'the fear of the Jews.'  The pulpit has also the mission of liberating the
Chruch from the error that Judah and Israel are synonymous.  The reading of the
Scriptures which confuse the tribe of Judah with Israel, and which interpret
every mention of Israel as signifying the Jews, is at the root of more than
one-half the confusion and division traceable in Christain doctrinal statements.
THE JEWS ARE NOT THE CHOSEN PEOPLE, THOUGH PRACTICALLY THE ENTIRE CHURCH HAS
SUCCUMBED TO THE PROPAGANDA WHICH DECLARES THEM TO BE SO!"

The last quote above, by Henry Ford in 1921, stated the truth then, and it is a
more urgent truth today:  The DOCTRINE THAT THE JEWS ARE THE CHOSEN PEOPLE OF
GOD IS PURELY AND SIMPLY "PROPAGANDA!"  And you, dear Christain Minister, have
fallen for the greatest deception ever practiced upon Israel!

Dear Minister:  The question for you now is:  Will you preach and teach the
Truth about Israel?  Or will you continue to preach the False Doctrine that "the
Jews are God's Chosen People?"

This tract was written by Pastor Sheldon Emry
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      Are you now ignoring the issue that was set before you?  Are you finding
it *impossible* to prove that the modern day self-styled "Jews" of today can
claim any relation to Biblical Israel other than as an enemy?  Is your only
"refutation" of "Identity" a mere defamation and evil characterization or do you
have some substance to your claims buried somewhere?  
      Ever heard of a Bible?  You know the Word of God.  In it is where we learn
about Israelites.   God tells us who His people are in many ways and gives us
scriptural "fingerprints" to identify them with.  Do you know any scriptures
from God's Word, the Bible, that give any characteristic of true Israel that can
be applied to the Jews?  
     Are you not concerned with the implications of the truth getting out about
the self-styled "Jews" today NOT being Biblical Israel, God's chosen?  Is their
false claim so hard to prove that the best tactic is to ignore the whole issue
or at best merely call those who bring the issue to your attention "bad names"
and associate them with every sort of evil image you can imagine?  
     Where is the debater?  Where is the big Ken who is such a stickler for the
"facts?"  Was the last little tract on the identity of True Israel verses the
self-styled "Jewish" imposters so hard to refute that the best tactic is to try
to ignore it?
     I'll give you an easier one to attempt to "refute" in the following
message.  It is a little more dated, so it should be easier to make fun of.  It
would be more interesting, though, if you could actually refute some of it's
more pointed conclusions.  It would raise your image from a mud-slinger dealing
in only defamation to one who actually has joined some sort of "debate" dealing
with facts.


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Subject: Re: Still waiting Ken M.
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From: Rick_Savage@nile.com (Rick Savage)
>      Are you now ignoring the issue that was set before you?  Are you finding
>it *impossible* to prove that the modern day self-styled "Jews" of today can
>claim any relation to Biblical Israel other than as an enemy?

Ya know, your completely psychotic view of religion has one major
glitch in it:

The continuous history of the Jews, from today back to before the
disapora (the dispersal from Israel around 70AD), and before but
unless you have reason to believe that these "imposter jews" invaded
and populated Israel previous to the diaspora then it really doesn't
matter does it, is both known and well recorded. For example, there's
a continuous stream of writing through that entire period by these
people.

It's not some great and mysterious unknown you have to divine by
interpreting scripture.

Only some willfully ignorant person would even consider believing this
craziness.

It's like sitting out in the rain trying to discern whether or not
you're going to get wet today by reading animal
entrails. Unfortunately in your case you wipe the drips from your
brow and conclude "nope, no rain today".

What next, does the bible tell us that humans are three-legged or that
the sun rises in the west?

Of course not. And it doesn't say what y'all have dreamt up either.

What a crackpot.

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Article 12892 of alt.revisionism:
Subject: Re: "Identity:  A Religion for White Racists"
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 94 08:43:06 MDT
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Deaddog writes:
>Can you delineate *all* of the original racial types, and
provide information as to why you chose these to be the
original types and not others? <<

    I perceive a non-argument forming, but I'll answer your question as best I
can.  There seem to be all sorts of theories, but the most agreed upon is that
their are 3-5 basic racial types. The evidence of your own eyes should be
enough.  It is obvious that if you are white then if you marry a black,
oriental, or Indian of any type, you would not be marrying your own kind.
    When the famous naturalist and zoologist Georges Cuvier devised his
classification of races in 1790, he listed three types:  Caucasoid, Mongoloid,
and Negroid. 
    Cuvier's classification of races was just prior to the advent of Egyptology
-- the studying and dicovering of the ruins of ancient Egypt by such men as Jean
Francois Champollion in the 1820's.  The ancient Egyptian monuments, tombs, and
temples reveal a vast storehouse of ethnographical records in the form of
paintings, mummies and sculptures displaying different racial types of man. 
Certain racial types can be distinguished in paintings and sculptures dating as
far back as the 4th millenium B.C., as Prof. Coon explains:
    ". . . racial differentiation can be traced back to at least 3,000 B.C., as
evidenced in Egyptian records, particularly the artistic representations."
    Different racial types portrayed in ancient Egyptian artwork (1600-2000
B.C.) represented 5 types: Red, White, Brown, Black, Yellow.  
    For more exhaustive study a good book to find is "Origins of Race and
Civilization" by Charles Weisman.  (Weisman Publications, 11751 W. River Hills
Dr. #107, Burnsville, MN 55337).
   
>> I notice that later in your post you talk about 'true'
Israel, Anglo-Saxon, Germanic, Celtic, Scandanavian, and
kindred peoples.  Are each of these separate types / races?
If they are of the same race, then why do you insist on
calling them by different names?  If they are different types
or races then can you tell me what the remaining races are? <<

   Here is a classic non-argument.  All of the above are of the white race.  I
list the different nationalist distinctions out of habbit and no other deeper
reason.  Part of the reason is because of the prophecies concerning Israel that
they would form a MULTITUDE of nations.  This the white race did, and the Jews
have yet to dream of. 


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Article 12900 of alt.revisionism:
Subject: Deaddog's race questions.
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Deaddog writes:
>>Unfortunately, we have a bunch of confusing terms with no 
real definition here, Rick:  "Saxons" "white Race" "White
Nordic Race" and "Caucasians."  Could you tell me how these
terms relate to one another, and give me a definition of
each? <<

  Saxons, Nordic, Caucasion.  They are all different terms describing the white
race from different geographical locations.  I didn't write the previous article
from which you pulled these terms.  Why are you so hung up on such silly and
non-sensical questions?

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Article 12901 of alt.revisionism:
Subject: Deaddog's confusion dispelled.
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Deaddog writes:
>>> I dunno, Rick, the so-called "Identity" movement seems quite 
confused as to who really is an Israelite.  Maybe you can
provide me with some better definitions so that we can 
figure out whether or not you even can properly define who is
an Israelite and who is not, OK?  <<

   There is no confusion at all if you understood a few things about Israelites,
the Bible and history.
   If you read the Bible you will discover there were 12 tribes of Israel and
they each received a land inheritance in old Canaan land (except Levi).  These
12 states made up the nation of Israel in the Old Testament.  This was the great
nation they made that was promised to Abraham's seed. 
    If you are interested we can go into an indepth Bible study and I can give
the relevant scripture that tells the basic story of the promises made to
Abraham concerning his descendants.
    This will explain what happened to the Israelites and the scriptural
"fingerprints" that give us the characteristics of Biblical racial Israel of
today.  So do you realy want to know?
     When we understand that the Israelites were going to be a vast multitude of
people, will spread out to the North and West (of old Palestine), would form a
great multitude of nations and be a blessing to the world we can only conclude
that the white race fit's into the proverbial glass slipper belonging to Israel.
     Since these people formed a multitude of nations, it becomes useful to
refer to them by their many nationalistic origins (Anglo-Saxon, Germanic,
Scandinavian, and kindred peoples).  It is another re-inforcement of the
prophecies concerning Israel and how they can ONLY apply to the white race.
    In the next message I'll post a message that starts from the beginning,
Adam.  It will discuss the racial aspects of the Identity message from it's very
foundation.  Maybe that will help give you a bases of where this all starts.
 

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Article 12902 of alt.revisionism:
Subject: Racial origins of white race.
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    Since Deaddog is confused over the white race and their true identity as
"Israel", we will start at square one: Adam.  

Adam was of the White Race
    It is quite apparent, by the authority of the Bible, that Adam was very
unique and different among all the other types of people on earth.  It was only
Adam and his descendants that God had ever dwelt among or conversed with.  It
was only Adam and his descendants that God gave laws and commandments to.  It
was only Adam and his descendants that God brought judgment and punishment upon
for disobedience to these commandments.  And it is only Adam's lineage or
genealogy that is covered throughout the Bible.
    Another unique aspect about Adam was his race.  All Scriptural evidence
indicates Adam was created a white man.  Evidently the various "colored" types
were created before Adam.  The name "ADAM" (aw-dawm') in Hebrew means a "ruddy
human being" (Strong's O.T. #120).  It is derived from Strong's O.T. #119 - ADAM
(aw-dam'), which means "to show blood (in the face), i.e. flush or turn rosy." 
Only the white race has the characteristic of blushing or showing blood in the
face or skin.  The attributes of skin color are described by one geneticist as
follows:
     The color of normal human skin is due to the presence of three kinds of
colored chemicals, or pigments.  The most important of these pigments is
melanin, a dark-brown substance... The second of the three pigments is carotene.
This is a yellow substance which is present in carrots (from which it gets its
name) and egg yokes as well as human skin...  The third pigment is hemoglobin,
which is the red coloring matter of blood...the hemoglobin occurs in the blood
vessels beneath the skin, so that very little can show through..  The presence
of fair amounts of either melanin or carotene in the skin covers it up
completely.  Hemoglobin does show up however in the skin of white men,
particularly in those of light complexion.  It is the hemoglobin that accounts
for pink cheeks and the ability to blush.   -William C. Boyd, Ph.D.  'Races and
People' (1955) pp.43-45
    Adam was fair and white which caused the hemoglobin (blood) to show in his
skin making him look "ruddy" or to give him a "flush" look.  Thus the word
"ADAM" is a descriptive name but here indicates certain physical characteristics
that the man Adam possessed.  It is a common practice in both Hebrew and English
languages to name something according to some outstanding feature or
characteristic.  We thus call a bird a "red-headed woodpecker" because it has a
red head and pecks wood.
     Adam was evidently called or named "ADAM" because he possessed 'aw-dam'
characteristics - that being of a ruddy or rosy complexion coming from the blood
(hemoglobin) showing through his nonpigmented skin. This is what ADAM meant. 
These physical characteristics of 'aw-dam' are found only in the white race. 
People of a very fair complexion often appear as though they are reddish or
sunburnt since the hemoglobin readily shows through their skin.  This was the
case with Adam.  Eve also had these characteristics.
      That Adam and Eve were of the white race with this fair, ruddy or rosy
complexion is verified in the Bible by the descriptions of their descendants. 
King David, who was one of Adam's direct descendants, was described as being
"ruddy, and of fair countenance." (I Samuel 16:12 and 17:42)  David's daughter
Tamar was "fair." (2 Samuel 13:1)  Sarah and REbekah, who were both descendant
from Adam, were both described as being "very fair." (Genesis 12:11,14; Gen.
24:16; Gen. 26:7)  The daughters of Job, one of the Adamic patriarchs, were
known as the fairest women "in all the land." (Job 42:15)  Solomon was described
as being "white and ruddy." (Song of Solomon 5:10)  The Nazarites (consecrated
persons) of Judah were "whiter than milk" and "more ruddy in body than rubies"
(Lam. 4:7)
    Adam thus was not the progenitor of the human races but rather only the
progenitor of the white race - the Adamic race.  Each race was a distinct and
separate creations which would mean that each race is a distinct species of the
Genus category 'Homo'.
      That Adam and Eve were of the white race with this fair, ruddy or rosy
complexion is verified in the Bible by the descriptions of their descendants. 
King David, who was one of Adam's direct descendants, was described as being
"ruddy, and of fair countenance." (I Samuel 16:12 and 17:42)  David's daughter
Tamar was "fair." (2 Samuel 13:1)  Sarah and REbekah, who were both descendant
from Adam, were both described as being "very fair." (Genesis 12:11,14; Gen.
24:16; Gen. 26:7)  The daughters of Job, one of the Adamic patriarchs, were
known as the fairest women "in all the land." (Job 42:15)  Solomon was described
as being "white and ruddy." (Song of Solomon 5:10)  The Nazarites (consecrated
persons) of Judah were "whiter than milk" and "more ruddy in body than rubies"
(Lam. 4:7)
     Adam thus was not the progenitor of the human races but rather only the
progenitor of the white race - the Adamic race.  Each race was a distinct and
separate creations which would mean that each race is a distinct species of the
Genus category 'Homo'.

COLOR IN SCRIPTURE
    It becomes self-evident that in nature certain colors represent or symbolize
certain things and we can only conclude that this is the intent and plan of the
Creator.  Yellow, for example, is an alarming color and for a certain poisonous
insect or snake to have some yellow coloration would make sense.  Green
represents vegetation and is symbolic of life or living things.  The scheme of
color was obviously by design and we perceive this in nature and refer to it as
the natural order of things.
    Since color symbolizes and represents certain characteristics, qualities,
attributes and features when used in nature (the works of God), it should be
expected that Nature's God had likewise used the same principles of color
characterization in His word.  We know from Scripture that God created Adam
white, being "ruddy" only because of the blood showing through his nonpigmented
or colorless skin.  Things that are nonpigmented or colorless are white - that
is the actual meaning of white - "lacking color; colorless." (Websters New World
Dictionary (1976), p.1621)
    The question is, why did God create Adam nonpigmented or white, while other
types of man were pigmented brown, yellow, black, bronze, etc.? Scripture
reveals that God had assigned a specific meaning and characteristic to white
which is always used in a positive, Godly and honorable manner as follows:

-  White is used in Scripture to represent what is pure, holy and clean (Isa.
1:18; Dan 11:35; Dan 12:10; Psa. 51:7; Eccl. 9:8)
-  Jesus Christ was transfigured on the mount as being pure white (Matt. 17:2;
Mark 9:3; Luke 9:29), and appeared to John as being white (Rev.1:14) denoting
his eternity and wisdom, and was white as snow in prophecy (Dan. 7:9)
-  God's angels and the vesture of angelic beings are white (Matt. 28:3; Mark
16:5; John 20:12; Acts 1:10; Rev. 15:6)
-  The bride of Christ is "arrayed in fine linen, clean and white" (Revelations
19:8)
-  The "righteous" and those that "overcometh" are clothed in white (Dan. 12:10;
Rev. 3:4-5; Rev. 6:11)
-  Those that are worthy to appear before Christ are in white robes (Rev.7:9),
being made white by the blood of Christ (Rev. 7:13-14)
-  The throne of God is white (Rev. 20:11) and the 24 elders seated around the
throne are in white (Rev. 4:4)

    God has assigned a significant meaning to "white" in Scripture which is
always opposed from that which is colored or dark.  The WHITE horse of
Revelations 6:2 signifies victory, while the RED horse represents war (6:4), the
BLACK horse signifies famine (6:5,6), and the PALE horse death (6:8).  Christ
and his armies are upon white horses (Rev. 19:11,14).  We thus see white is
represented as that which is Godly, pure, good and peaceful.  Black, or some
dark hue, is the symbol of disaster, mourning, or suffering (Job 3:5 & 30:30;
Jer. 8:21 & 14:2; Lam. 4:8 & 5:10; Joel 2:6; Nah. 2:10.0

'Light' and 'Dark'.
    There is also significance in the words "light" and "dark" in Scripture
which are symbolized as opposites (2 Cor. 6:14; Rom. 13:12).  God's word is
light (Psalms 119:105; 2 Cor. 4:4).  Also, "God is light, and in him is no
darkness at all" (I John 1:5).  Likewise Jesus Christ is referred to as Light
(John 1:7).  Consequently God's chosen people are referred to as the "children
of light" (John 12:36; Luke 16:8; Eph. 5:8; 1 Thes. 5:5; Col. 1:12).  Darkness
is representative of evil, wickedness and corruption (Prov. 4:19; Isa. 8:22;
John 3:19; Luke 11:34; Eph. 5:11; 6:12) and something the righteous seek to be
delivered from (Ezk. 34:12; Col. 1:13
    We can see that God had assigned an honorable, pure, good and Godly
attribute to those things that are white or light in appearance.  But those
things that are evil, corrupted, or bring misery are represented as black, dark,
or colored.  Does it not logically follow that God would have created His
supreme creation, Adam, and consequently His chosen people, "white" or "light"
in appearance instead of colored black, yellow, copper, brown or some dark hue?
   In light of the meaning and symbology God used in Scripture it can only be
deduced that God made Adam white- symbolizing something pure, holy and Godly. 
God certainly would not have made his chosen race dark or capable of
"developing" into dark or colored types as the creationists and Christian
churches believe and teach.

IN THE IMAGE OF GOD
    The equalitarians, those who promote the "unity of man" concept, often
state, in reference to Genesis 1:26-27, that "the Negro was created in God's
image but carved in ebony."  They thus maintain that the Negro has the same
common origin, the same essential attributes, the same moral and spiritual
character as the white man.  However, the word "man" used in these verse is
"ADAM" (aw-dawm'), thus indicating that God made the white, ruddy, Adamic race
in His image.
    The word "image" used in Genesis 1:26-27 is the Hebrew word "TSELEM"
(tseh'-lem), and it means "to shade," as being a "resemblance; hence a
representative figure." (Strongs O.T. #6754)  Thus the "image" here means
something made or shaded in a resemblance or likeness of something else, as was
the case when "God created man (ADAM) in his own image (TSELEM)" in Genesis
1:27.  The word "shade" is often used to mean "similar," as in the phrase
"shades of Rome," means similar or in "resemblance" to Rome. Adam was the shades
of God, i.e., resembling God's image.
     We have seen that "white" represents certain things in Scripture.  God
created Adam white so as to resemble Himself in sort of a symbolic manner.  God
is represented as being white in the same manner He is represented as being
male.  This figurative concept was transmuted into God's literal and physical
creation of Adam, who was created a white male.  Adam was made white in the
likeness or image of God, since all Godly things in Scripture are white or light
in appearance.
    Some have claimed that Genesis 1:27 refers to the creation of the other
races, but Genesis 5 makes it clear that only Adam was created in the image or
likeness of God:

    1  This is the book of the generations of Adam.  In the day that God created
man (ADAM), in the likeness of God made he him;
    2  Male and female created he them (Adam and Eve); and blessed them, and
called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.
    3  And Adam lived hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in HIS OWN
LIKENESS, AFTER HIS IMAGE (TSELEM); and called his name Seth.

    We see that these verses use some of the same language as used in Genesis
1:26-27 (also Gen. 9:6 - "for in the image (TSELEM) of God made he man (ADAM).")
This clearly tells us that only Adam was made in the "likeness" of God just as
only Seth was begotten in the likeness of Adam and "after his image." (Gen. 1,2
and 5 all talk about the same creation of Adam but with different words.  To
hold them as separate accounts causes great inconsistencies.  This style of
writing, which repeats a certain account differently, is also used in Gen. 7,
which repeats the events of the Flood recorded in Gen. 6, and then proceeds in
more detail).  The Hebrew word translated as "likeness," "DEMUWTH" (O.T.#1823),
also means "resemblance".
    Adam was also the "son of God" (Luke 3:38) just as Seth was the son of Adam
(Gen 5:3).  Thus, Adam was created in a type of comparable resemblance to God in
a symbolic sense, which must of had something to do with Adam's physical and
racial makeup.  Adam was of the white race because God's color scheme in
Scripture portrays Godly things only as white or light, never dark or colored.

God's Chosen People
    The Bible does make some references to certain other races, sometimes
designated as nations, families, or people.  There is reference to the
Syrians, the Hittites, the Libyans, the Edomites, Chaldeans, the Egyptians,
 etc.,  which existed at the time of Israel (the Hebrews).  To these
surrounding nations Israel was usally looked upon as just another race or
nation.  But to God they were very special and different.
    The Bible is a very racially oriented Book - oriented towards one
race.  It was written about and for one racial family line that descended
from Adam.  Only Adam's geneology is traced throughout the Bible.  IT 
wasnot written in regards to other people or races.  It no more traces the
history of Neanderthal men than it does Chinese or Australians since it is
a history book of only one man's family, that man is Adam.  As stated in
Genesis - "This is the book of the generations of Adam" (Gen. 5:1)
    Ten Generations from Adam came Noah and ten generations from Noah 
came Abraham.  In Gen. 12, God blesses Abraham and promises to make
him into a great nation.  In Gen. 21 Isaac is born to Abraham's wife Sarah,
and in Gen. 25, Isaac's wife, Rebekah, gives birth to Esau and Jacob.  
There in Gen 35:9-12, God appeared unto Jacob, changed his name to 
Israel, and reaffirmed the blessings he promised Abraham.  From that 
point on the Bible concerns itself only with the white Adamic descendants 
of Israel. All of the prophets of God were of Israel.  All of the laws, 
blessings, admonishments, covenants and prophesies pertain only to Israel. 
In other words, God specifically chose only one racial family - the white, 
Adamic, Israelite family - to be his people:
   "Yet now hear, O Jacob my servant: and Israel, WHOM I HAVE 
CHOSEN:...I will pour my spirt upon THY SEED, and my blessing upon 
THINE OFFSPRING." (Isa. 44:1-3, see also Isa 41:8-10)
    God chose only the Adamic-Israel race.  His spirit and His blessings
was prophesied to be only upon the racial descendants of Israel, not the
descendants of Indians, Negroes or Malayans.  God is referred to many
times as "the Holy One of Israel," never as the Holy One of Syrians,
Hittites, or Philistines.  As hard as it is for some to accept, God
chooses who He wants to be his people.  In other words, God does the
choosing and people have no say in the matter.  As Christ stated: "You
have not chosen me, but I have chosen you." (John 15:16)
   In the Old Test. God (Yehovah) has made it equally clear that He has
chosen and acknowledges only one race of people:
   "For thou Israel art an holy people unto the LORD thy God, and the 
LORD hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, ABOVE ALL 
THE NATIONS (RACES) THAT ARE UPON THE FACE OF THE 
EARTH." (Deut. 14:2 & 7:6)
   "At the same time, saith the LORD, will I be THE GOD OF ALL THE
FAMILIES OF ISRAEL, and they shall be my people." (Jer. 31:1, Jer. 
31:33)
   "ONly the LORD had a delight in thy [Israel's] fathers to love them,
and HE CHOSE THEIR SEED after them, EVEN YOU ABOVE ALL 
PEOPLE [races], AS IT IS THIS DAY." (DEUT. 10:15, also Deut 4:37)
   "YOU ONLY [ISRAEL] HAVE I KNOWN of all the families [races] of 
the earth; therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities." (Amos 3:2)
   "And I will walk among you [Israel], and WILL BE YOUR GOD, and 
YOU SHALL BE MY PEOPLE." (LEv. 26:12)
   "He [the LORD God] sheweth his word UNTO JACOB, his statutes and 
his judgements unto Israel. HE HATH NOT DEALT SO WITH ANY 
NATION: and as for his judgements, they have not known them. Praise ye 
the LORD." (Psalms 147:19,20)
    The Scriptures are quite clear that the God of the bible is not the God
of all the races or "families" of man, rather He is only the God of the
race of Israel whome He has "chosen for His own inheritance" (Psa. 
33:12), and has chosen "for His peculiar treasure" (Psa 135:4).  Only the 
Israel race is CHOSEN by God to be his SERVANT (1 Chron. 16:13).  
God clearly favors one race - the Israel race - over all other races that have 
existed on earth, past or present.

The "SONS OF GOD"
     In Luke 3:38, Adam is referred to as the "son of God."  Only the racial 
descendants of the Adamic family line through Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob
are ever referred to as the "sons of God" or "children of God."  Israel is 
identified as "the sons of the living God."  (Hosea 1:10).  God calls Israel his

"son" (Isaiah 45:11, Exodus 4:22, Hosea 11:1)  Christ refers to Israel as 
"the children of your Father which is in heaven"  (matt 5:45).  There thus 
exists a type of father-son relationship between God and Israelites.
     Christians are also referred to by this title.  The Apostle John in writing

to fellow Christian-Israelites states:
     "1  Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that 
we should be called the SONS OF GOD: therefore the world knoweth us 
not, because it knew him not.
     "2  Beloved, now *are we the sons of God*." (I John 3:1-2.  Also 
Acts 17:29)
  
     In the letter ot the Philippians the Apostle Paul refers to his Christian 
supporters as the "sons of God" (Phil. 2:15).  In Paul's letter to the 
Galatians, he informs them the reason Christ came to the world:
     "4  But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, 
made of a woman, made under the law,
     "5  To redeem them that were under the law, THAT WE MIGHT 
RECEIVE THE ADOPTION OF SONS.
     "6  And because YE ARE SONS, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his 
Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father." (Gal. 4:4-6)

    Christ came to redeem only those "that were under the law."  Only 
Israel entered into an agreement at Mt. Sinai and thus only Israel was ever 
under the law.  God implied that He would not "cast off all the seed of 
Israel" (Jer. 31:37,) and that they would be "scattered" but preserved and 
later "gathered" together (Amos 9:9; Ezk. 34:11-14).  They were gathered 
together as was prophesied in Hosea 1 under one leader, being Christ.  
And Christ clearly declaired this purpose in Matt 15:24, "I was sent to the 
lost sheep of the house of Israel, and to them ALONE."
     Being "sons of God" is, however, more than a racial thing, it is a status 
that God bestows on certain persons (John 1:12-13, Rom 8:14). But there 
is nothing to indicate that anyone except those of Adam were chosen or 
"born of God" as sons.
    "Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that 
we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, 
because it knew him not, Beloved, now are we the sons of God."  I John 
3:1-2
     You are not a son of God today, just because you are white.  Israel was 
cast off because of her whoring after other Gods, the only way to be 
redeemed (bought back) is through His Son, Jesus Christ who paid the 
penalty for Israel's sins.  We can again come back to the Father as "sons of 
God" by repentance and baptism into Christ's death (Romans 6). You are 
not saved by race, you are saved by grace.  Only those who are humbled, 
repent and claim the gift through walking the "Way" of Christ all the way 
to His death, burial and ressurection can claim to be the "sons of God."
     Not being a son of God does not exclude a person from being able to 
come under God's grace.  The Bible is also clear that other races can come 
to Christ and recieve the blessings and salvation...being a son of God only 
entails a superior RESPONSIBILITY, and does not make the white 
ADAMIC ISRAEL race superior to any other race.  They are to be a 
servant race, a blessing to the world and all it's other people, the ministers 
of God's Word.

    (This is from "Origins of Race and Civilization" - an expose' of the false
Christian doctrines and distorted historical & scientific teachings on the
origins of races and civilizations.   Available from Weisman Publications, 11751
W. Riverhills Dr. #107D, Burnsville, MN 55337, $9.00 Ppd. )


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Article 12903 of alt.revisionism:
Subject: The Identity Controvery in perspective
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From: Rick_Savage@nile.com (Rick Savage)

Rick Savage (Rick_Savage@nile.com) wrote:
: Thanks for the rhetoric and anti-"Identity" propaganda.  You did a fair job
: in painting all sorts of wonderful images with just enough disgust and 
: hatred to vilify your subject toward your own biased ends.  Whenever 
: you want to get serious send off the following text to be refuted by 
: your best scholars with the BIBLE!  In the mean-time you are doing 
: nothing more than spouting "Jewish Fables".

Jason E. Durbin writes:
>> I hope that any uninitiated will read Mr. McVay's articles and note that
Savage addresses none of the issues raised by them. Instead, he cries UNFAIR and
falls back on asking us to read the bible and interpret it as he directs.  <<

   There were no issues raised in any of Mr. McVay's articles.  They were merely
charactizations of some specific teachings of certain individuals.  If you think
he raised any valid arguements in any of his attempted smears, please quote them
and direct them at me and I will answer them.  
    I didn't see any substantive argument that disproved any of the Israel
Identity message with the Bible.  All I saw was an array of colorful
characterizations and associations with everything "evil".  This is just another
way of calling people bad names.  I think we are beyond the playground mentality
and can rise above the impulse of demanding that the other person is wrong
because almighty "Me" has decreed it so.  
     Neither you, Mr. McVay, or myself are any sort of "authority" from which we
can verify of disprove the true Identity of Israel (God's Chosen People). The
only Authority that can judge this matter is from whence the controversy
springs, God's Word, the Holy Bible.  This is where both the self-styled "Jews"
and the "Identity" folks base their belief in their claim to be the true Chosen
People of God.  So we must base any arguement on the source of the controversy.
     I think it is an important issue because if the self-styled "Jews" of today
have a faulty claim on the title of "Israel" than their whole existence is based
on a BIG LIE and a fraud.  All the special treatment and material gains they
have extorted through guilt and fear of God's wrath by claiming to be "God's
Chosen" would be exposed as ill-gotten and criminal.
     So it is a VERY serious issue and is truely at the root of all so-called
"revisionism".  The whole house of cards falls on this one issue.



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From: bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein)
Subject: Re: "Identity:  A Religion for White Racists"
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From: Rick_Savage@nile.com (Rick Savage)
>    I perceive a non-argument forming, but I'll answer your question as best I
>can.  There seem to be all sorts of theories, but the most agreed upon is that
>their are 3-5 basic racial types. The evidence of your own eyes should be
>enough.  It is obvious that if you are white then if you marry a black,
>oriental, or Indian of any type, you would not be marrying your own kind.

And that the "racial type" of the offspring of such a marriage would
no longer be obvious to Mr Savage's (or our) eyes!

I can see why Mr Savage is appalled at the prospect. It would
complicate his simple life.

Oops, it already has, too bad Mr Savage wasn't around at Creation to
keep things on the straight and narrow!

>    Different racial types portrayed in ancient Egyptian artwork (1600-2000
>B.C.) represented 5 types: Red, White, Brown, Black, Yellow.  

Since your whole beef appears to be with Jews versus Northern
Europeans just how does this 5 part disharmony exactly fit into your,
if I may be so bold, bizarre religious beliefs?

I mean, if Jews are Whites (they're certainly not often Red, Brown,
Black or Yellow as should be obvious to even Mr Savage's eyes) and as
you say Whites are the Chosen People then Jews are among the Chosen
People.

My eyes! I think we're done here! Mr Savage, your WORRIES ARE OVER!

		We has met the enemy and they is us!

>   Here is a classic non-argument.  All of the above are of the white race.  I
>list the different nationalist distinctions out of habbit and no other deeper
>reason.  Part of the reason is because of the prophecies concerning Israel that
>they would form a MULTITUDE of nations.  This the white race did, and the Jews
>have yet to dream of. 

Except, as you have just shown, they are members of the white race, so
they did not have to dream of it, they were it!

Quod Erat Demonstrandum!

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From: bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein)
Subject: Re: Racial origins of white race.
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Ya know, I started to post to this thing, but it's so sick and full of
ignorance and hatred that it made me ill.

If that's what you believe then all I can say is I feel sorry for you,
you worship a religion of hatred. This is your right. But should you
try to put that religion into action I will pray for your martyrdom.

I have read Satanic tracts, and this comes as close to one as any I
have ever read. The only difference is that they knew they were
worshipping Satan. These ignorant fools appear to be completely duped
by this poison.


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Article 12946 of alt.revisionism:
Subject: Re: Still waiting Ken M.
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 94 13:40:20 MDT
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From: Rick_Savage@nile.com (Rick Savage)

In article <00072DC3.fc@nile.com> Rick_Savage@nile.com (Rick Savage) writes:
>      Are you now ignoring the issue that was set before you?  Are you finding
>it *impossible* to prove that the modern day self-styled "Jews" of today can
>claim any relation to Biblical Israel other than as an enemy?  Is your only
>"refutation" of "Identity" a mere defamation and evil characterization or do
you
>have some substance to your claims buried somewhere?  

Kevin  Mcvay writes:
>>> I haven't made any claims. I have simply posted a viewpoint
concerning Identity Christianity that is, er, somewhat different
than yours. That seems to have disturbed you, but it can't be
helped. I am not interested in biblical debate, nor is this the
place for such discussions.<<<


    A point of view based on nothing but pure unsubstanciated
hatred?  If you have no intrest in the Bible, which doesn't suprise
me at all, upon what authority do you base your "viewpoint" of
Identity Christianity?  
     Why do you refuse to disguss the implications of Identity
Christianity?  That is, if the Identity Christian point of view is
correct over the true Biblical Identity of Israelites NOT being
the self-styled "Jews" of today, then the "Jews" whole existence
is based on FRAUD and FALSEHOOD! 
     You are amazing!  You don't even try to attempt to defend
your views and opinions and openly admit that they are not founded
upon any basis in fact or truth.  
     Congradulations.  We have finnally established the basis of
your views, unfounded blind hatred and utter digust for what disagrees
with your viewpoint.  Amazing!  

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Article 12947 of alt.revisionism:
Subject: FBerg:  Identity Christianity
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 94 05:37:10 MDT
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From: Rick_Savage@nile.com (Rick Savage)

FPBERG writes:   
>>>>  If I were descended from one of the lost tribes of Israel, I wouldn't
talk about; I would keep it as deep a family secret as I possibly could. 
Anybody eager to be a member of a bunch of genocidal savages, which is
precisely what the ancient Hebrews really were, should have his head
examined.  According to that great source on ancient history, the Old
Testament--after the victory at Jericho, the Hebrews slaughtered  "every
living thing which breatheth" which would, presumably, have included cats
and dogs as well. And after that, they repeated their performance except 
as to the details, again and again and again.
      Jericho was a good example for the modernday Holocaust hatemongers 
who turned entire cities into crematory ovens in order to "make the world 
free and safe for democracy."  <<<<<
-----------------------------------------------------
    Don't give me this pretended neutrality and garbage that only the "other
guy" is guilty of or able to comit violence.  This simplistic logic neutralizes 
the people you claim to love and hold as "good".   This sort of thinking puts 
you in a bind whenever you are pushed into the need to go to war with these 
"genocidal savages".   After all, if only these "genocidal savages" can kill 
people then we might as well give them the amunition to do it with since "we 
wouldn't think of doing such things".   Don't give the self-proclaimed 
chosen-ones the sole license for violence.   It is suicidal. 
    Why do you think Kauffman wrote a book like "Germany Must Perish?"
If you want to know the real reason the "allies" wanted to wipe out Germany 
you need to understand history and the identity message.  When you begin 
to understand the "Jews" eternal hatred and vowed oath to destroy Germany
and the German people, you will then understand Kauffman's motives.
     Judah was given the Scepter, the sign of Authority and Rulership.  
The German people are of the tribe of Judah, the ruling tribe.  The Germanic 
people in addition to being very creative and prodcutive have the trait to rule 
and conquer in their blood and are descendents of the same people who gave us 
the great Conqueror who utterly destroyed the "Jewish" power of His day.  
The pretender to Judah's title wants to exterminate the true Heir of the 
Scepter. They tried once before but He rose again from the dead.  Christ was 
born through the house of Judah, and called the "LION of the Tribe of Judah." 
(Rev. 5:5).  Lions are not pacifists but rather preditors. Christ said that He 
"did not come to bring peace, but a sword."
    British Israelism teaches that the self-proclaimed "Jews" are of the tribe 
of Judah.  This teaching came about when Cromwell let the "Jews" back into 
England for their money.  He used this lie to sell the people on the idea of
letting 
the usurers back into England.  These "Jewish" usurers (bankers) were allowed 
to marry into the royal family by these greedy Anglo-Saxon race traitors, 
which allowed them to became part of the aristocracy.  This same aristocracy 
is the same who has always fought to put down Germany whenever it became 
a threat to their power and influence.  The Rothschilds were firmly in bed with 
the Royal Crown by the time of the First World War.  
     These are the people who were the "Holocaust hatemongers who turned 
entire cities into crematory ovens in order to 'make the world free and safe 
for democracy'."



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Article 12948 of alt.revisionism:
Subject: Are Jews white?
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 94 05:39:35 MDT
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From: Rick_Savage@nile.com (Rick Savage)

Deaddog  writes:
>> However, Rick, if I go down to the local synagogue and look,
by your definitions my eyes tell me that I see members of 
the white 'race.'  You've spent numerous posts telling me
that I should beware of the false 'Israelites,' and now you
give me advice for how to know who the true 'Israelites' are
but it turns out we can't tell the difference!  <<<

   There is a good reason for that, one I was waiting to get into.  I'll try to
give a quick summary and can go into more detail if needed.
   A simply answer would be that a "Jew" is not one by race, but by religion. 
That is why their are black, oriental and seemingly white racial groups
represented in Judaism.  Another reason is that the majority of the people who
embrased Judaims/Phariseeism after it's near extinction after 70 A.D. were by
the Edomite/Khazars.  
    Edomites were descendants of Esau who was Jacob (Israel's) brother.  Esau
despised his birthright and sold it to his brother Jacob.  Esau has been
battling his brother Jacob since that time to regain what he did not originally
value.  The battle between Edomite "Jewry" and true Biblical Israel is another
dimension in the ancient battle between the Esau and Jacob for the primal
birthright.


Deaddog>>
Tell me, Rick, how can I be sure of the identity of 'true'
Israelites?  It seems to me like it is absolutely central
to all of your arguments; in fact, it is at the core of your
very religion.  <<

   I was going to answer this question, but the reply got too long so I will be
posting it in a separate message.


Deaddog>>  Are Jews members of the white 'race?'  If not, why 
not and how can we tell the difference? <<

     Some "Jews" may look very white but we must remember that Esau married into
many other races (mongoloid specifically).  The Khazar raiders in Eastern Russia
when they sacked villages of the Rus carried off the white women as spoil and
had children by them through their many rapes.  Koestler, in his book "The
Thirtenth Tribe" cites a few references to this and witness to these
blond-haired/blue-eyed variety of the Khazars.


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Article 12949 of alt.revisionism:
Subject: The Germanic Peoples
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From: Rick_Savage@nile.com (Rick Savage)

    Reply to Deaddog's question, what is meant by the term "Germanic peoples"?  

The Germanic tribes include several groups (Angles, Balts, Brits, Celts,
Cimmerians, Danes, Franks, Frisians, Gaels, Goths, Jutes, Letts, Lombards,
Normans, Rus, Saxons, Scots, Scythians, Swedes, Vandals, Walloons, etc.)
When we talk about the Anglo-Saxon, Indo-German, Indo-Aryan or any other
European-descended people we are refering to the white race.  It should be
noted that the 'Germans' are but one of the many branches of the 'Germanic'
peoples.  The Germanic peoples existed for at least 1000 years before the
Germans and spread out over all of Europe.
     The word "German"  comes from the Latin 'Germ nus' which means "Genuine"
or "authentic" in relation to a family or klan of people.  The peoples living in
the 
land known as Germany today during the Roman Empire were known as Scythians 
to the Romans.  As their numbers grew and they spread abroad the Romans began 
to call the Sythians in the Germanic lands the "Genuine Scythians", hence the 
word "German".  
      So who were the Scythians?  The Scythians were first mentioned in history
around 681-699 B.C. in Assyrian tablets found in Ninevah (now in the British
museum).  At this time the Scythians were located among the Medes.
      It was in Assyria, specifically the cities of the Medes, where the
so-called 
"lost ten-tribes" were taken away into captivity (II Kings 18:11) by 
Shalmaneser V of Assyria.
      Dr. Hans Gunther, professor of Berlin University in the 1920's in his
book,
"Racial Elements of European History, stated,
      "... ancient writers, such as Polemon of Ilium, Galienos, Clement of 
Alexandria, and Adamantios, state that the Scythians [Sacae] were like the Kelts
and Germans, and describe them as ruddy-fair.  The Scythian tribe of the Alans
are also described as having a Nordic appearance.  Ammianus [c350 A.D.] 
describes them as "almost all tall and handsome, with hair almost yellow, and
a fierce look."
      Colonel J.C. Gawler states, "The Scythians were later known as Goths, or
Gothi, possibly because the Getae, an important branch of the Scythian nation,
were most in contact with the Romans, with whom, therefore, all Scythians 
were [called] Gothi."
     The Roman Historian, Pliny the Elder (c50 A.D.) indicated,
    "The name Scythian has extended in every direction, even to the Sarmatae
and the Germans...beyond the Danube are the peoples of Scythia.  The Persians
have called them by the general name of Sacae...The more ancient writers give
them the name of Aramii (Arameans).  The multitude of these Scythians is quite
innumerable (note: Gen. 13:16; 15:5; 17:4,6); in their life and habits they much

resemble the people of Parthia.  The tribes among them that are bettern known 
are the Sacae, the Messagetae, the Dahae..."
    It should be noted that the land of Israel in the days of the Bible was part
of
Syria.  The Israelites themselves are described in Scripture as Syrians, and
Abraham's famliy was Syrian. (Deut. 26:5; Gen. 25:20.  The word Syrian (#761)
means an Aramaean; a highlander.)  The people known today as Syrians are as
different from the original Syrians, as the Portuguese and Egyptians were 
entirely different peoples from those who now predominate in the lands which 
carry the names of their builders.
      Greater evidence that the Scythians who sired the Germanic peoples are
in fact the Israel of the Bible, is to be found in the Scythian tombs (called
tumuli)
themselves which have been found in southern Russia (Scythia and Crimea).  
These tombs date from 580 B.C. to the 1st century and contain many of the 
symbols of the Israelites, as well as fine animal drawings of near eastern
derivation.  (These can be seen in the American Journal of Archaeology, 1914,
Vol 18, and the Illustrated London News; Jan. 3 & Feb. 14, 1914.)  In several
of these tombs, Hebrew manuscripts were found, some of which are translated
by Professor Hannay as follows:
     "I am Jehudi, the son of Moses, the son of Jehudi the Mighty, a man of the
tribe of Naphtili, which was carried captive with the other tribes of Israel,
by Prince Shalmaneser, from Samaria during the reign of Hoshea, King of
Israel.  They were carried to Halah, to Habor-- which is Cabul --to Gozan and
to the Cheronesus--which is the Crimea."  (Haberman, p.129)
     Thousands of tombstones have been found in the Crimea in Scythian 
graveyards with Hebrew-Phoenician inscriptions, 700 of which have been 
translated by Professor Chwolsen of Petrograd.  Some of these read as follows:
     "This is the tombstone of Buki, the son of Itchak the priest; may his rest 
be in Eden, at the time of the salvation of Israel.  In the year 702 of the
years
of our exile."
     We could go on and on.  We could talk about the Germanic languages and
their
origins from the ancient Hebrew.   

Biblography
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Tracing Our White Ancestors, by Haberman
God's Covenant People - Yesterday, Today and Forever, by Ted Weiland
Origins of Race and Civilization, by Charles Weisman
Your Inheritance: Best Kept Secret in the World, by Robert Allen
Our Scythian Ancestors, W.E. Filmer
Racial Elements of European History, by Dr. Hans Gunther

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Article 12950 of alt.revisionism:
Subject: Re: Israel's Identity (circumcision)
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dsegard@nyx.cs.du.edu (Daniel Segard), writes:
>>>>   According to the Covenant with Abraham "whosoever is not
circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin shall be CUT OFF from his people,
for he has broken My Covenant."  Thus if someone is concerned that they
might be "part of Israel and not know it" all they have to do is a bit of
family research.  If they come across any of there forefathers who were
not circumcised in the foreskin, then they can be certain that they are
cut off from any possibility of being considered part of Israel. <<<<

    This is the problem with the self-proclaimed "Jews" of today they
reject God's way and reject the more perfect circumcision the Great
I Am, the Word come in the flesh desired.  They are cut-off from the 
Father because they reject the circumcision He requires and His Son.
    "And in Him (Christ) you were also circumcised with a circumcision
made without hands, in the removal of the body of the flesh by the
circumcision of Christ; having been buried with Him in baptism, in which
you were also raised up with Him through faith in the workings of God,
who raised Him from the dead.  And when you were dead in your 
transgressions and the uncircumcision of the flesh, He made you alive
together with Him, having forgiven us all our transgressions."  
Col 2:11-13


Dan:  (Mr Savage will no doubt respond with something about being
circumcised in the heart as well.  I will agree that in Deuteronomy the
circumcision of the heart is required as well, but that this does not
replace physical circumcision.)

     Not quite, more than the heart is required to be circumcised, yes, 
but it is a circumcision of the WHOLE flesh.  That is what is required!
That can only be done through baptism into Christ Jesus' death, burial
and resurrection.  This greater requirement is sadly rejected by those
who claim the Father and a right relationship with Him.


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Article 12955 of alt.revisionism:
Subject: The Jews that Aren't
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    This article needs no comment.  How long will it be before the pretenders
who style themselves as "Jews" will admit that they aren't related to the
physical descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob?  How long will the lie
continue?  When people finnally understand their fraud and misrepresentation of
their true identity, what happens to their claims on the land of Palestine? 
What happens to their emotional claims against those who supposedly persecuted
the "chosen people" of God?  How can anyone believe anything the self-styled
"Jews" say when their whole identity is based on a deliberate lie?

"The Jews That Aren't" 
by Leo Heiman: Copley News Service

Tel Aviv

    Nathan M. Pollock has a beef with the Israeli government. 
    His elaborate plans to celebrate this September the 1,000th anniversary of
the Jewish-Khozar alliance were summarily rejected.
    An elderly, meek-looking man who migrated to Israel from Russia 43 years
ago, Pollock ekes out a living as a translator of scientific texts and
proofreader in a publishing firm.
    But his great passion, hobby and avocation is historic research.
    HE has devoted 40 of his 64 years to trying to prove that six out of 10
Israelis and nine out of 10 Jews in the Western Hemisphere are not real Jews'
Jews, but descendants of fierce Khozar tribes which roamed the steppes of
southern Russia many centuries ago.
    For obvious reasons the Israeli authorities are not at all eager to give the
offical stamp of approval to Pollock's theories.
    "For all we know, he may be 100 per cent right," said a senior goverment
official.  "In fact, he is not the first one to discover the connection between
Jews and Khozars.  Many famous scholars, Jews and non-Jews, stressed these links
in their historical research works.
    "But who can tell today what percentage of Khozar blood flows in our veins,
if at all?  And who can declare with any degree of scientific accuracy which
Jews are Jews and which descendants of this Tartar-Mongol race?
    "As a matter of fact, our alleged descent from the Khozars is the central
theme of Arab propaganda," he added. "The Arabs claim most European Jews have no
right to be in Israel in the first place because they are not descended from
Biblical Hebrews, but from Tartar-Mongol nomad tribes, including the Khozars who
were converted to Judaism en masse 1,000 years ago."
    Scientific opinion in Israel is divided on the subject.  No one argues the
basic premise: that a group of 12,000 Jews, fleeing from perseuction and wars in
the Holy Land, in the wake of Byzantine and Moselm conquests, made the long
overland trek to Persia, crossed the territory of today's Turkestan in Central
Asia and found asylum in the Khozar Kingdom, which occupied a vast area between
the Caspian Sea, Volga River, Ural Mountains, Black Sea and the Polish
borderlands.
    In the year 965 the Khozars were defeated for the first time in 500 years by
Prince Sviatoslav of Kiev.  King Bulan III of Khozaria concluded that Prince
Sviatoslav emerged victorious from the war because his troops and mercenaries
were Christians, while his nomads were pagan worshipers.  The king and his
nobles embraced Judaism in 965, and in 966 a royal edict was passed enforcing
Judaism as the only legal religion in the Khozar Kingdom.  Tribesmen had to
undergo circumcision, learn Hebrew prayers and recognize Jewish rabbis as their
spiritual leaders - on pain of death.
    As other Jews who were persecuted in the Middle East, medieval Europe and
Spain at the time, heard of the new Jewish-Khozar kingdom, rumors spread that
the Messiah had arrived at long last.  There were several consecutive migration
waves to Khozaria, via Persia, Greece and Poland.
    Pollock believes the traditional Russian anti-Semitism probably stems from
that epoch when Hebrew-speaking Khozar raiders attacked Russian villages, killed
the men folk, abducted women, forcibly converted them to Judaism and married
them in full-fledged religious ceremonies.  This also would explain why so many
European Jews are blond and blue-eyed, with slight Mongol slant to their eyes,
as well as the total absence of Semitic features among many Israelis of European
descent.
    The flourishing Jewish-Khozar Kingdom was destroyed in 1239 by the Mongol
invasion of Batu Khan.
    Following the Mongol invasion and conquest, surviving members of
Jewish-Khozar tribes trekked west and settled in Poland, Hungary, Bohemia,
Austria, Romania, and the Ukraine.  
    How can one find out if he is a "Khozar Jew" or a "Hebrew Jew?"
    According to Pollock, whose parents came from Poland, if your name is
Halperin, Alpert, Halpern, Galpern, etc., you are a 100 per cent Khozar. 
"Alper" means "brave knight" in the Khozar tongue, and the name was granted by
the king to the most distinguished warriors.  Names like Kaplan, Caplon, Koppel,
and the like are positive proof of Khozar descent, according to the scholar. 
"Kaplan" means "fierce hawk" in the Khozar language.  Kogan, Kagan, Kaganovich
show aristocratic descent from Kagan-Hagan, King Bulan's chief minister.  (EOA)

San Diego Union - August 28, 1966

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From: Rick_Savage@nile.com (Rick Savage)
>    This article needs no comment.  How long will it be before the pretenders
>who style themselves as "Jews" will admit that they aren't related to the
>physical descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob?  How long will the lie
>continue?

And most importantly: How long until the Haldol kicks in?

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From: Rick_Savage@nile.com (Rick Savage)
>    This article needs no comment.  How long will it be before the pretenders
>who style themselves as "Jews" will admit that they aren't related to the
>physical descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob?  How long will the lie
>continue?

And most importantly: How long until the Haldol kicks in?

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From: Rick_Savage@nile.com (Rick Savage)
>    This article needs no comment.  How long will it be before the pretenders
>who style themselves as "Jews" will admit that they aren't related to the
>physical descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob?  How long will the lie
>continue?

And most importantly: How long until the Haldol kicks in?

-- 
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Article 13024 of alt.revisionism:
Subject: Centrality of Identity Position is the Bible
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 94 11:59:06 MDT
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Deaddog , writes:
>>> Rick, I'm going to summarize now; please feel
free to correct any misinterpretations of your meaning I may
make.  I will attempt to use direct quotations from what
you've posted wherever possible <<<

    (1) Members of the white 'race' are direct descendents of
Adam. 
    (2) Miscegenation is wrong.
    (3) Not only is miscegenation wrong, but it is likely to
be punished by God.
    (4) Miscegenation has occurred frequently throughout history. 


     And punished frequently throughout history.  I.E., Noah's flood,
Sodom & Gamorah, Phineas, etc.


    (5) Throughout Rick's posts, the *only* link you see him 
make to Adam is that of being 'white.'  He discusses in some
detail why he thinks Jews may not be linked to Adam, but he
does not give us any information regarding how we can tell
which modern humans can be linked to Adam other than by being
'white.'  
    

     Christ gave two:  "By their fruits" and "My sheep (Israel)
hear's My voice and follow Me."  The overwhelming majority
of those who have heard and followed Christ have been white.
Germans alone have accounted for more theologeons than any
other ethnic group, white or non-white.


    (6) People who today profess to be Jewish are in many cases
extremely fair-skinned.  I challenge Rick to provide any
absolute *genetic* evidence that would distinguish Jews from
non-Jews.  The *genetic* evidence is central to Rick's 
arguments, since it is not belief that distinguishes the
descendents of Adam, but rather their heritage.  The 
'identity' of the 'true' Israelites is a genetic imperative,
according to Rick.  Therefore, an absolute genetic test of
who does and does not belong to 'true' Israel is the *only*
way to know which of us will still receive God's favor.


    Genetic evidence is not "central" to my position, though 
important.  The Bible is central to my position.  God's
history as recorded in his Word establishes the character
of the players on His world-stage.  
     The importance of the Identity of Israel is to restore 
them to their rightful purpose and duty.  God has used other
peoples for His purposes when Israel has been deliquent in
her duty.   It is not "imperative" to define "Israel".  It *is*
imperative to remove the pretenders who are fighting against
God's purposes in the name of "Israel".  The IMPERATIVE is
that God's Will be done *on Earth*.  This can't be done when
an usurper is using the name of God's chosen people in vain
to try to thart His plan.
     The imposters (self-styled "Jews") who have attempted 
to steal the birthright to "rule & reign with God" (Israel),
are really simply God's punishing rod on His rebellious people
to return them back to Him.  The "Jews"  have been unleashed to
beat His Israel people until they have finnally had enough and 
will repent (turn back and obey Him).  Until this happens, Israel
will still suffer the curses for disobedience as outlined in 
Deuteronomy 28, which includes the worst of the heathen
ruling over and devouring true Israel.

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Article 13025 of alt.revisionism:
Subject: McVay's "incredible" observations
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  From:           kmcvay@oneb.almanac.bc.ca (Ken Mcvay),Internet - nile.com

In article <00074485.fc@nile.com> Rick_Savage@nile.com (Rick Savage) writes:

Wow! I must say, for the first time, Rick, you _have_ impressed me.
Given the miniscule fact that Adam was the ONLY human being in
existence, you, with no further help, all by yourself, have
determined that he was UNIQUE. Amazing feat of logic, Sir, simply
amazing!

    Your claim that "Adam was the ONLY 'human' being in existence"
is impossible to prove.  Try it.  It is very easy to disprove with the
Bible.  One is the serpent in the garden, for one.  Who did Cain marry?
If Cain went off to build a "CITY" where did all these other people 
come from to inhabit this city?  Not too long into Genesis the Adamites
are battling several "kings".  Where did they come from?
    The Bible is only a book about the Adamic race and more specifically
the descendants through Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.  
    You also have the problem of Noah's flood.  It wasn't universal, but
a regional flood.  

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Article 13026 of alt.revisionism:
Subject: Proofs:  skin color or more?
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 94 12:07:17 MDT
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 Deaddog ,Internet - nile.com

>>  By the tenets of your religion, definitions in terms of belief
itself are meaningless regarding the 'identity' of members
of the white 'race.'  <<

   This is your own conclusion, not mine.  

>> Only genetics can decide who is or is not of the Adamic race.  
Do not try to promote this false confusion again; it truly makes 
me wonder whether you understand 'identity' Christianity or not.


    You can dream up imagined motives for me all day.  Your imposed
belief system and false conclusions have nothing to do with the
subject. 
    Genetics "alone" as a proof for a descendant of the Adamic race
is YOUR conclusion, not mine.  I have maintained that the *Bible*
alone, if we are forced to use only ONE source, is sufficient to prove
the identity of Israel (Adamites through Abraham ,Isaac and Jacob).
Genetics is merely man's science that reveals God's creation.  It is 
usefulness is as supporting evidence of the Bible, if anything.


>> The question now becomes how we can tell the difference
between the two.  It is *not* by religion; religion is irrelevant 
to the 'identity' of the white 'race.'  <<

   This again is your false conclusion and assumption.  It
has EVERYTHING to do with the Bible and the rejection
of Christ's Way, that is the major proof of the "Identity"
of God's true chosen people.  Christ stated, "I came only
to the lost sheep of the house of Israel" and "My sheep
hear My voice and they follow Me." 
    The self-styled "Jews" have rejected and HATE Christ
with the most visciousness they can muster, while the
white peoples have overwhelmingly heard His voice and
followed Him.  Hosea spoke of this regathering of lost Israel
to Christ in Hosea chpt. 1.  
    It was through obedience to His Way, after hearing the call, that 
makes it possible for "Israel" to be "redeemed" and reconciled. through 
Christ Jesus,  back to God as His own people.


>> And it certainly isn't by skin color alone:  you have not
yet responded to my challenge to provide a test for
how we can distinguish Jews from 'whites.'  <<

    Again it isn't "certainly" by skin color *ALONE*.  Your 
challenge was answered in my last statement.  It is the most simplistic
of all "proof", and it has to do with OBEDIENCE.  Those who follow
Christ and walk in His commandments are His people.   Christ stated, 
"you shall know them by their fruits (actions)."   Non-Israelites
can and will obey Him by placing themselves under His Soveriegnty.
This is Israel's duty, and if they are neglegent in it God will call 
others to fill the gap to shame true Israel back to obedience.

>>  By your own arguments, God doesn't just favor any folks with 
fair skin, God's favor is reserved for the true descendents of Adam. <

   God's "favor" is reserved for those who love Him and keep His
commandments (laws).  The imposters who unlawfully claim 
title to "Israel" through impersonation can be blessed by God when
they are being used by Him to punish a rebelliious and sinful
people, such as true Israel is today.


>>  Rick, by your own definitions, Barry Shein or Ken McVay 
may be a much more suitable vessel for God's favor than you.
While they may not believe, if they were to recant and accept 
Jesus, etc. the fact that they carry more white 'blood' than 
you would make them better 'identity' Christians, wouldn't it?<<

   Oh, I'll definately admit that Barry Shein and Ken McVay can
be "vessels for God's favor".  As I stated above, they are being
favored by God to beat His rebellious and stubborn children back
into obedience to Him.  What Barry and Ken need to fear is when
true Israel does repent and turn back to their God.  When that 
happens we will see the vision of Obadiah manifest into what they 
seem to love to talk about here....
    "but upon mount Zion shall be deliverance, and there shall be 
holiness; and the house of Jacob shall possess their (Esau/Edom's)
possession.
    "And the house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph
a flame, and the house of Esau for stubble, and they shall kindle in
them, and devour them; and there shall not be any remaining of
the house of Esau; for the Lord has spoken it."  (Obad. 17-18)


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Article 13027 of alt.revisionism:
Subject: Kicking a deaddog back in line.
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 94 12:08:06 MDT
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Deaddog  Writes:

>>  Let's review, once again, your own chronology:
DATE    EVENT
?       Adam, first 'white' 
Hypothesis:  Adamic race multiplies *without mixing in any
way, shape, or form with other races* and inhabits Israel. <<

    Try not to impose and project your Hypothesis on me,
without asking for any sort of agreement first.  Let's go
over your mistaken impressions about the "Adamic race".
  
    Out of the Adamic peoples, Israel came through Abraham,
Isaac, and Jacob.  Not all Adamites are Israelites, but
all Israelites are Adamic.  Abraham was chosen for a
specific purpose, do you know what that was?  Why was
Isaac chosen?  Why was Jacob/Israel chosen over Esau?
Jacob/Israel's election was for a specific purpose.  What
makes Israelite's different from the other Adamites of
their day?  Do you have a one-word answer?

>>   ?   White 'race' in Israel along with many other races.
Hypothesis:  Adamic race remains in historical cauldron of
civilization with numerous other races for many years
*without mixing in any way, shape, or form with other 
races.*<<   

   Your conclusions based on your own beliefs, not mine.


Deaddog:
>> Remember, Rick, religion doesn't count:  you know as well as
we that conversions were a dime a dozen back then (convert or
the sword).  Heck, all of the Khazars became Jewish; who's to
say that during their intermixing with Scythians they didn't
become Christian or the Scythians Jewish? <<

    You are correct, "relgion" doesn't count.  *Obedience* does.
Your other arguements are speculation.

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Article 13028 of alt.revisionism:
Subject: The 13th Tribe: a review
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 94 12:09:54 MDT
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Jews  are  not  Israelites - Review of the 13th Tribe, by Koestler.

Research Proves "Jews" are non-Israelite Asiatics *imposters*

DATELINE U.S.A. (1977) --
     In 1976 Random House published a book that should have hit the Christian
Churches like a blockbuster, but instead they chose totally to ignore it.  It
dealt with the racial origin of the people in Communist and Christian countries
who call themselves "Jews," and whom the Churches (and the Jews themselves)
generally insist are "God's Chosen People,"  the Israelite descendants of
Abraham.
     Since the late 1800's a small number of Bible Scholars, who were also
students of History and Racial origins, have insisted the Church denominations
were wrong; that instead of being Israelites, these Jews from Eastern Europe and
Western Asia were descended from Mongolians and other Asiatic peoples who had
adopted Judaism as their "religion" over 1,000 years ago and had become know as
"Jews."
     These Bible scholars were ignored or condemned, and often called "cultists"
or "anti-Semites."
     Now, after many years of research, a well-known Jewish author, Arthur
Koestler has published a 255 page book titled THE THIRTEENTH TRIBE in which he
proves the same point; i.e. that these Eastern European "Jews" are neither
Israelites nor "Semites," but are instead Khazars, Mongols, and Huns!
     Most major newspapers and magazines reviewed the book during 1976.  Also,
Random House, the publisher, advertised it extensively and began some of their
ads with the following headline:  WHAT IF MOST JEWS AREN'T REALLY SEMITES AT
ALL?  In addition, Random House quoted the following reviews:

     "Mr. Koestler's excellent book...Is as readable as it is thought-provoking.
Nothing could be more stimulating than the skill, elegance and erudition with
which he marshals his facts and develops his theories..."  Fitzroy Maclean, New
York Times Book Review.

     "You do not have to be Jewish to be interested... Are today's Western Jews
really ethnic, Semitic, Biblical Jews, or are most of them descendants of
converted Khazars?...This compact, interesting book...examines tragic-ironic
implications in [this question] for modern history...It should fascinate." 
--Edmund Fuller, Wall Street Journal

     "Koestler marshals the evidence in a clear and convincing way.  He tells a
good story, pulling together materials from medieval Muslims and Jewish
travelers, scholarly controversy and the mysterious lore of the Khazars." 
--Raymond Sokolov, Newsweek

     Robert Kirsch of the Los Angeles Times stated in his lengthy review that
'Arthur Koestler publicizes with his customary skills a daring hypothesis: that
THE KHAZAR JEWS MIGRATED TO POLAND AND BECAME THE FOREBEARS OF EASTERN EUROPEAN
JEWRY...'  Then Kirsch quoted Prof. A. N. Poliak of Tel Aviv University, who
stated that "The large majority of world Jewry is descended from the Jews of
Khazaria."  Then he again quoted Koestler in THE THIRTEENTH TRIBE, "If so, this
would mean that their ancestors came not from the Jordan but from the Volga; not
from Canaan but from the Caucasus, once believed to be the cradle of the Aryan
race; and that GENETICALLY THEY ARE MORE RELATED TO THE HUN, UIGUR, AND MAGYAR
TRIBES THAN TO THE SEED OF ABRAHAM, ISAAC, AND JACOB..."  (emphasis added)
     We cannot stress enough how absolutely imperative it is for all Christian
Americans to consider the startling proof in Arthur Koestler's book that today's
Jews are not Israelites.  The Jewish influence on American life has reached such
a stage that no student of contemporary history can ignore it.  Not only the
news media are Jewish monopolies, but top positions in the U.S. government are
largely filled by Eastern European Jews.  The magazine and book publishing
houses are in Jewish hands; and movies, television, and the other entertainment
industries are dominated by Jews in all phases.  America's government and most
of her people's sources of information are controlled and directed by Jews.  If
these people were really "God's Chosen People," perhaps Americans would have
little cause for concern -- BUT WHAT IF THEY ARE REALLY THE "HUNS" AND THEREFORE
THE ANCIENT ENEMIES OF CHRISTENDOM?  
     Since many Americans may not have an opportunity to read Koestler's book,
we shall herewith submit our own index-style review.

THE THIRTEENTH TRIBE by Arthur Koestler, Random House, $8.95

Reviewed by Pastor Sheldon Emry

Page                         Information

15     Khazars adopt Judaism as their religion in A.D. 740.
16     Majority of Eastern European Jews are Khazar and Japhetic in origin, not
Semitic.  Refers to 1973 Jewish Encyclopedia and A. N. Poliak, Professor,
Medieval Jewish History,  Tel Aviv University.
17     Jews more closely related to Hun, Uigur, and Magyrs than to the seed of
Abraham Isaac and Jacob.
18     Khazars exacted tribute from subject peoples.
20      Identified them with the hosts of Gog and Magog.
22     German word Ketzer is our word for Khazar and means heretic or Jew.
23     Khazars were with Attila the Hun in 4th century.
37-39     Some were phallic worshipers, killed anyone thought to be extra
intelligent and called it an offering to god.
46     Quotes 1,000-year-old Arab historian, "The Khazars and their King are all
Jews...some are of the opinion that Gog and Magog are the Khazars."
47-50     Khazars were re-exporters of foreign goods, middlemen, inspectors of
trade, goldsmiths,
     and silversmiths; and they exacted 10% tax on all trade.
59-63     Jews fled Rome and Greece to Khazaria to avoid forced conversion to
Christianity.  They 
     adopted Islam when forced but repudiated it when safe.
72     Khazar King, in a letter, traced his people in Togarma and Japheth, the
ancestors of all the
     Turkisk tribes.
81     In A.D. 864 a monk wrote "there exists a people under the sky in regions
where no 
     Christians can be found, whose name is Gog and Magog, and who are Huns;
among them
     is one called Gazari [Khazari?], who are circumcised and observe Judaism in
its entirety." 
     Koestler quoted another source that Christians were prisoners of these
Jews.  (Comment by
     reviewer: Compare with Communist Russia today.  Jews are in high positions
throughout
     Russia, but few Christians are left alive in the whole land!  The leopard
has NOT changed
     his spots.)
93      Russian communists tried to hide Khazar-Jewish connection!
95-132     History of breaking up of Khazar Empire and integration of these Jews
into Russia, Poland,      etc.
135     Khazar kingdom known as a kingdom of "Red" Jews.
141     Khazars joined Ghengis Khan and retained their Judaism.
145     Interchangeable names --Khazar, Zhid (or Yid), and Jew
151     Majority of Jews in Middle Ages were Khazars.
152-154  Jews were mintmasters, royal treasurers, tax collectors, and money
lenders.  Principal
     source of income was foreign trade and the levying of customs dues and they
practiced
     communal life.
159-161  They lost the name of Khazars and became known as Jews.  During Dark
Ages commerce
     largely in Jewish hands, including slave trade.
163-167  During Crusades whole families and towns of Jews committed suicide
rather than accept
     Christianity.
167-171  Proves only a handful of Sephardim Jews were in Europe so the vast
majority of Jews 
     today are Khazar in origin.
172-174  Gives origin of Yiddish language.  It is NOT Hebrew!
178     "The Jewish dark ages may be said to begin with the Renaissance." 
(Reviews comment:
     This remark by the Jew Cecil Roth, coupled with other information, is a
sorrowful 
     admission that the Jews were supreme in the Dark Ages but lost their
dominion over
     Europe when the LIght of God's Word brought about the Renaissance in
Europe!)
180-199  Quotes from many sources to prove Jews NOT descended from Biblical
Israelites, ending 
     with this, ...evidence from anthropology concurs with history in refuting
the popular belief
     in a Jewish race descended from the biblical tribe.
200-222  Refers to others who have written on the same subject.
223     Israeli's right to exist...not based on...the mythological covenant of
Abraham with God; it is 
     based on international law -- i.e., on the United Nations' decision of
1947...
224-226  Koestler ends his book by saying he believes many Jews have learned of
their Khazar
     ancestry and now reject the Chosen-Race doctrine.  (Reviewer's comment:
This section of
     Koestler's book is practically a rejection of any relationship between God
and the "Jews." 
     It is a cry of We have no king but Ceasar heard 19 centuries ago from the
Edomite Jews in
     Palestine!)

     THE THIRTEENTH TRIBE proves beyond doubt that modern Jews are not Biblical
Israelites.  Every church member in America should insist that his Pastor
investigate these claims.  Are our Jewish politicians, publishers, movie makers,
and opinion molders God's "Chosen People"?  Or are they Mongol and Hun
infiltrators of Christendom?

The "Edomite Connection"

     Arthur Koestler traces most Jews back to a people called Khazars in western
Asia and southern Russia and links the Khazars with Gomer and Magog, grandsons
of Noah through Japheth.  We believe he is right; and he does prove that most
Jews cannot be Israelites, who descended from Shem (Semites).
     But there is another racial mixture in the modern Jews, which Koestler does
not touch upon but which should be considered for it gives us a reason WHY
modern Jews insist they are Abraham's seed.
     This racial mixture is covered in great detail in AN OPEN LETTER TO ANY
MINISTER WHO TEACHES "THE JEWS ARE ISRAEL," which I wrote several years ago.  I
will outline it briefly below:

     1.  Abraham's grandson Esau, the twin brother of Jacob, sold his Abrahamic
birthright to
Jacob for a mess of red pottage, at which time his name was changed to Edom,
which means "red."
(Genesis 25)

     2.  This same Esau married into the Canaanites (Genesis 26 & 36), who were
descended from Ham (Genesis 10).  Esau moved to Mt. Seir and his descendants
were called Edomites (Genesis 36).

     3.  These Edomite descendants of Esau continually tried to regain Esau's
birthright by fighting Israel.  Later they infiltrated true Israel to become its
rulers and religious leaders (scribes and Pharisees) in Jerusalem.  (Proof in my
OPEN LETTER.)  It was they to whom Jesus said, "I know that ye are Abraham's
seed; but ye seek to kill Me, because My Word hath no place in you."  He said to
them, "Ye are of your father the devil..ye are not of God."  (John 8:33-56; 10:
6-27)

     4.  After Jesus' redemption of Israel, the true Israelites were renamed
Christian (Acts 11:26), as prophesied in Numbers 6:26, Isa. 62:2, 65:15, and
Hosea 1 and Rev. 3:12, and were driven from Palestine by their Christ-rejecting
Edomite enemies who remained in Jerusalem and retained the name "Judean" or
"Jew."

     5.  These Edomite-Canaanite Jews were then driven from Jerusalem in A.D. 70
by the Romans and later mixed with the Japhetic Khazars and converted them to
Judaism (Pharisaism), whereupon they ALL have since been known as "Jews."

     6.  Communism, the revolutionary, anti-Christian arm of the Pharisees
(Jews), calls its followers "Reds" after their Abrahamic ancestor Esau-Edom (Gen
25 and Obadiah).

     And on and on.  These Edomite and Japhetic "Jews" are NOT Israelites but
are instead the ancient and malevolent enemies of true Christian-Israel.  They
are those "which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan"
(Rev. 2:9).  Insist that your minister read my OPEN LETTER listed below.

Is The Jews' "Chosen People" Masquerade Finally Over?

     Shortly after World War I, Henry Ford, founder of the Ford Motor Company,
assembled a staff of experts in Detroit to conduct research on the European Jews
who had been entering America in large numbers since the 1880's.  Ford provided
the staff with several million dollars for this research, and in 1923 he
published the results in a four-volume work titled "THE INTERNATIONAL JEW."
     It was Henry Ford's conclusion that very few of these people who called
themselves "Jews" were descendants of the Bible Israelites.  Ford further proved
that these Jews, using all sorts of crimes while under the cloak of being the
Chosen People of the Bible, were rapidly taking economic and political control
of America.
     In summing up his findings, Henry Ford stated, "The Jews are not the Chosen
People, though practically the entire Church has succumbed to the propaganda
which declares them to be so."
     Ford's book caused a furor for a few years but soon disappeared from
colleges, universities, and public libraries and became almost unobtainable. 
The Churches continued to teach "The Jews are God's Chosen People, Israel," and
the (by then) Jewish-dominated news media began to refer to Jews always as
Israelites.
     Anyone opposing the increasing Jewish control of the nations was
immediately branded "anti-Semitic;" and Jewish dominated Seminaries taught new
ministers to quote Genesis 12:1-3 and sternly warn their flocks that anyone
speaking unfavorably of the Jews would be "cursed by God."  Jewish control of
American society, politics, and religions continued to increase.
     In 1951 retired U.S. Military Intelligence Officer, Col. John Beaty,
published a scholarly 265-page book IRON CURTAIN OVER AMERICA.  In it Col. Beaty
gave overwhelming evidence this strange Race of Eastern European "Jews" were
actually Khazar and Mongol Asiatics and had no racial ancestory in Israel at
all.  He then proved that by 1951 these "Jews" had a stranglehold on American
politics, on Banking and Credit, on all sources of news, on the entertainment
industry, on America's educations system, and that they were the predominant
race as judges, lawyers, doctors, and in organized crime.
     The Jewish news media refused to review the book, Jewish book dealers
refused to handle it, Christian book stores ignored it, and only a few thousand
copies were distributed.  Most Americans never heard of IRON CURTAIN OVER
AMERICA.

     The most succinct book on this subject, is ISRAEL'S 5 TRILLION DOLLAR
SECRET by Col. Curtis B. Dall, former son-in-law of Franklin Delano Roosevelt,
and a personal acquaintance of many high officials in the U.S. Government since
the 1930's.  Col. Dall lives and works in the Washington, D. C. area, and his
book, published in 1977.  Col. Dall proves again, from reliable sources, that
the Jews are NOT Israelites. In fact, Col. Dall calls them masquerade as
"Israel" the greatest "hoax" of the last centuries!  It should be read by every
non-Jew in America.

    The latest book on this subject is "GOD'S COVENANT PEOPLE - Yesterday, Today
and Forever" by Pastor Ted R. Weiland has become the enyclopedic proof text on
the true identity of Biblical Israel.  For more information about it write: 
Mission to Israel, PO Box 248, Scottsbluf, NE 69363.

     "Fear them not therefore; for there is nothing covered that shall not be
revealed: and hid, that shall not be known.  What I tell you in darkness, that
speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the
housetops."  (Jesus, in Matthew 10:26,27).


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Article 13029 of alt.revisionism:
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Kevin Mcvay wrote:
>>> I haven't made any claims. I have simply posted a viewpoint
concerning Identity Christianity that is, er, somewhat different
than yours. That seems to have disturbed you, but it can't be
helped. I am not interested in biblical debate, nor is this the
place for such discussions.<<<

And has yet to respond to:
    A point of view based on nothing but pure unsubstanciated
hatred?  If you have no intrest in the Bible, which doesn't suprise
me at all, upon what authority do you base your "viewpoint" of
Identity Christianity?  
     Why do you refuse to disguss the implications of Identity
Christianity?  That is, if the Identity Christian point of view is
correct over the true Biblical Identity of Israelites NOT being
the self-styled "Jews" of today, then the "Jews" whole existence
is based on FRAUD and FALSEHOOD! 
     You are amazing!  You don't even try to attempt to defend
your views and opinions and openly admit that they are not founded
upon any basis in fact or truth.  
     Congradulations.  We have finnally established the basis of
your views, unfounded blind hatred and utter digust for what disagrees
with your viewpoint.  Amazing!  

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Subject: Yet Unanswered Challenge
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Nobody has yet come forward and admitted the truth or prove the error of the
following text:

Israel's Identity - The Choice is Clear
Are modern day self-styled "Jews" imposters?

     "Here's a paradox, a paradox, a most ingenious paradox: 
and anthropological fact, many Christians may have much more 
Hebrew-Israelite blood in their veins than most of their Jewish 
neighbors." (1)  --Alfred M. Lilienthal

     Could their possibly be any truth to this?  If so, it would 
mean that the majority of Christendom and the rest of society 
has misidentified the people most prominent in the Bible.  If 
Israel has been misidentified there is no doubt that major errors 
in doctrinal interpretation and application of Biblical prophecy 
have been made!
     There are a variety of stories regarding the Israelites and their 
modern-day identity.  It is not the purpose of this tract to relate 
another of these stories.  Instead, it will furnish you with the 
Trest of the story,' the true story regarding Israel's modern 
identity, the one found in the Scriptures and verified by 
archeology and history -- a story not usually told by most 
preachers.

SPIRITUAL ISRAEL

     A large segment of Christianity is being taught that God no 
longer has a plan for Tphysical Israel' under the New Covenant, 
and that He is now working with only a Tspiritual Israel.'  For 
example, in the January/February 1991 issue of TThe Last 
Trump,' Dr. Ed Moore claimed:
     "Hence, we can begin to see that being the children of 
Abraham (today under the New Covenant) has nothing to do 
with race." (2)
     In his book TClouds over America,' Leonard C. Lee 
concluded:
     "Since God rejected the Israelites as a nation, we can look 
for the fulfillment of His purposes only in [a] spiritual Israel. . .  
The [physical] Israelites have now passed off the stage of 
action. . ." (3)
     In essence, these men and others like them, are proclaiming 
that God has no NEW COVENANT (emphasis added, original 
in italics) plan for physical Israel.  Yet, contrast these statements 
with what the inspired writer of Hebrews wrote:
     "Behold days are coming, says the LORD when I will effect 
a *New Covenant* WITH the *House of Israel* and with the 
*House of Judah*. . ." (Hebrews 8:8).
     While some people attempt to spiritualize this passage of 
Scripture to fit their preconceived ideas or to harmonize it with 
their denomination's teachings, the Israelites cannot be 
spiritualized in this verse, and for three reasons.

     FIRST, the context will not allow it.  The very next verse 
dictates as to whether the Israelites spoken of in verse eight are 
to be deemed as being either physical or spiritual:
     "Not like the [Mosaic] covenant which I made with THEIR 
[The House of Israel's and the House of Judah's] *fathers on 
the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the 
land of Egypt*. . ." (Hebrews 8:9)   (emp. added)
     The people described in this passage, with whom the New 
Covenant was and is being made, are clearly the physical 
descendants of the PHYSICAL PEOPLE (emp. add.) whom 
Moses led out of Egypt.

     The SECOND reason Israel cannot be spiritualized is 
illustrated by the Old Testament passage from which Hebrews 
8:8-12 is quoted.  The author of Hebrews quoted the Prophet 
Jeremiah, and Jeremiah continued with the following:
     "Thus says YHWH (the LORD), who gives the sun for light 
by day, and the fixed order of the moon and the stars for light 
by day. . .  *If this fixed order departs from before Me...then 
the offspring of Israel also shall cease from being a nation 
before Me forever*.  Thus says YHWH, *If the heavens above 
can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out 
below, then I will also cast off the offspring of Israel. . ." 
(Jeremiah 31:35-37)
     Since the fixed order of the sun, moon and stars has not 
departed, and since the heavens have not been measured, and the 
depths of the earth searched out below, then it is quite apparent 
that God is still working with the physical descendants of 
Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.  If not, then God has lied.

     The THIRD reason the Israelites in Hebrews 8:8 cannot be 
spiritualized is because of the second witness found in Romans 
where the Apostle Paul declared:
     "For I could wish that I myself were accursed, separated 
from [the] Christ for the sake of my brethren, *my kinsmen 
according to the flesh, who are Israelites, to whom belong. . . the 
covenants*. . ."  (Romans 9:3,4)

     Not only do the previous three passages specifically declare 
that God made His New Covenant with *Israelites*, but there 
are many more New Testament passages which reveal that God 
continues to work with the *physical* nation of Israel to this 
day. (Matt. 1:21; 2:6; 10:6; 15:24; Luke 1:16,33,54-55,68,72-
73,77; 19:9,10; 22:30; Acts 1:6; 5:31; 13:23,24; Romans 4:1; 
11:1,2; James 1:1; Rev. 7:3-8; 21:10-12, etc.)
 
TODAY'S JEWS

     Nearly all of Christendom is being taught that today's 
"Jews" represent Israel.  Yet, how many of those same people 
have ever been taught that the Bible warns us of Israelite 
impostors?  That's right, *non-Israelites* who fallaciously 
claim to be *Israelites*:
     "I know. . . The blasphemy by those who say they are Jews 
[i.e., Judahites, thus Israelites] and are not, but are a synagogue 
of Satan."  (Revelation 2:9)
     Also, how many Christians have been told that there is 
actually a people who admit to being these impostors?  For 
example, TThe 1980 Jewish Almanac's' first chapter entitled 
"Identity Crisis," begins with the following admission:
     "Strictly speaking, it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a 
TJew' or to call a contemporary Jew an TIsraelite' or a 
THebrew.'" (4)
     This fact is confirmed by several other Jewish sources and 
individual Jews.  For example:  The Jewish Encyclopedia 
(1905); The Standard Jewish Encyclopedia (1966); Nathan M. 
Pollock, Professor of Medieval Jewish History of Tel Aviv; 
Bernard Lazare; Robert Quillan; Dr. Benjamin Freedman; 
Arthur Koestler; James Yaffe; Paul Meyer and many more.
     Dr. Oscar Levy went so far as to declare:
     "And are not they [today's Jews] the inventors of the 
Chosen People myth?" (5)

     Why hasn't Christendom and the American public been told 
that over 90 percent of the people known as "Jews" are *not* 
descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob?  History reveals they 
are actually descendants of the fierce Turkish, Mongolian 
Khazar tribes which roamed the steppes of southern Russia and 
who adopted the religion of Judaism between the 7th and 9th 
Centuries.  Today, the Khazars are known as "Jews" not 
because of race, but because of religion. (6)
     As stated, the Bible declares that there would be Israelite 
impostors, these impostors have inadvertently or deliberately 
identified themselves by their own writings.  Therefore, if 
"they" are not true Israel, someone else must be!

TRUE ISRAEL

     God provided Scriptural clues for Identifying Israel of old.  
There is no debate that ancient Israel fulfilled most of these 
marks and was identified by them.  But even more exciting is 
the fact that these very same features help us to identify Israel 
today!  Listed below are fifteen national, geographical and 
spiritual aspects out of hundreds of Scriptural clues that 
positively identify Israel.  Ask yourself, what modern-day 
people do they identify?

5 NATIONAL ASPECTS

-  Israel was to become a great and mighty nation.
   (Genesis 12:1-3
-  Israel was to become a vast multitude of people.
   (Genesis 22:17)
-  Israel was to form a multitude of nations.
   (Genesis 17:4-6)
-  Israel was to rule over other nations.
   (Deuteronomy 15;6)
-  Israel was to be a blessing to all nations.
   (Genesis 22:18)

5 GEOGRAPHICAL ASPECTS

-  Israel was to have a new home, other than Canaan Land.
   (2 Samuel 7:10)
-  Israel's new land was to be inhabited by people gathered from 
many nations.
   (Ezekiel 38:8)
-  Israel was to have a land of unwalled villages, without walls, 
bars or gates.
   (Ezekiel 38:11)
-  Israel was to have a land of great agricultural wealth.
   (Deuteronomy 28:8-11)
-  Israel's land was described as being the "camp of the 
saints." 
   (Revelations 20:7-9)

5 SPIRITUAL ASPECTS

-  Israel was to have a new religion and be saved by YHWH (the 
LORD).
   (Jeremiah 31:7,31-37).
-  Israel was to carry the gospel to all the world.
   (Isaiah 49:3-6)
-  Israel was to be the only nation given God's Law.
   (Psalm 147:19-20)
-  Israel was to be blind for the most part to her identity.
   (Isaiah 42:16-19)
-  Israel was to be called by a new name. 
   (Isaiah 62:1,2)

     If Israel exists today, as she must, there is only one people 
whom all these identifying marks fit -- and they certainly do not 
represent the modern-day "Jews."  They do however, describe 
perfectly the Anglo-Saxon, Celtic, Germanic, Scandinavian, and 
kindred peoples; the multitude of nations who became a great 
nation, with a new home, a new religion, and who have blessed 
the world with the gospel of Yahshua and numerous other 
blessings.
     Indeed, Alfred Lilienthal (a "Jew") understood what most 
Celto-Saxons do not:  Many Christians have much more 
Hebrew-Israelite blood in their veins than do their modern self-
styled "Jewish" neighbors.

CONCLUSION

     The Prophet Isaiah spoke of a time in his future when "the 
eyes of those who see will not be blinded, and the ears of those 
who hear will listen, and the mind of the hasty will discern 
truth."  (Isaiah 32:3,4)  It is the purpose of this short tract to 
assist in the continual fulfillment of Isaiah's prophecy in regard 
to the true identity of Israel.  We have very briefly demonstrated 
and provided evidence for the following three facts:

-  God *has* a New Covenant plan for physical Israel today.

-  Today's "Jews" *are not* Israelites, but instead impostors.

-  The Celto-Saxon peoples *are* Israelites, the true 
descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

     You now have the rest of the story, the true story concerning 
Israel's modern-day identity; it is up to you what you do with it.  
It is our prayer that Isaiah's prophecy will be fulfilled in you, 
and that you will do your part in awakening other Israelites to 
their identity, and to their responsibility to God as His people.

BIBLIOGRAPHY:

1 - Alfred M. Lilienthal, Jr., "What Price Israel" (Chicago: 
Henry Regnery Company, 1953) 223
2 - Dr. Ed Moore, "The Last Trump" (January/February, 
1991) 7
3 - Leonard C. Lee, "Clouds Over America" (Washington: 
Review and Herald Publishing Association, 1948) 71
4 - "The Jewish Almanac", Compiled and Edited by Richard 
Siegel and Carl Rheins (New York: Bantam Books, 1980) 3
5 - Dr. Oscar Levy, preface, "The World Significance of the 
Russian Revolution," George Pitt Rivers (Oxford, England: 
Basil Blackwell, 1920) vi
6 - Arthur Koestler, "The Thirteenth Tribe" (New York: 
Random House, Inc., 1976)

For a more exhaustive study regarding Israel's modern-day 
identity, write:

Mission To Israel Ministries
PO Box 248
Scottsbluff, NE 69363


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Article 13086 of alt.revisionism:
Subject: Re: Yet Unanswered Challenge
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Rick Savage (Rick_Savage@nile.com) wrote:
> Nobody has yet come forward and admitted the truth or prove the
> error of the following text:  

Scott blatantly lies:
> Nonsense.  Choosing to ignore the refutations that have
been posted only weakens your argument -- if that is
even possible.<<

   The only thing that is weakened is your or anyone elses
ability to refute what should be so easily disproven if 
"wrong". You admit, through your inability to refute the
facts presented, that you have no defense or refutation
thus the stated facts stand unchallenged and "true" by
the lack of rebuttle.

Scott whines some more:
> continuously reposting disproved drivel is rather unoriginal,
don't you think?  Or does your organization allow original
thought?  <<
  
    Your personal attacks show your own immaturity and the
weakness of your position.
    The classical responses to date have been the typical
playground name-calling and characterization.  Attack the
person and characterize the subject matter.  

* NEVER debate the facts - the Jewish battle cry.*

    The self-styled "Jewish" imposters are in no way connected to the Israelites
of the Bible except through impersonation.  They have no claim on the land in
palestine.  They have built their whole political agenda upon the lie that they
are the "chosen people" of God, when in fact they are their sworn enemies. 

	In the 1980 Jewish Almanac under the heading of "A brief History of the Terms
for Jew" it says... ' Strictly speaking it is INCORRECT to call an ancient
Israelite a 'Jew' or to call a contemporary 'Jew' an Israelite OR a 'Hebrew.'" 
P.3 

	"Jesus therefore said to those Jews which had not believed him,..Ye (Jews) are
of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father it is your will to
do...He that is of God heareth the words of God:  for this cause ye (Jews) hear
them not, because ye are not of God."  John 8:31,44,47

	 "The widespread idea that the Jews, while rejecting Jesus' 'claim' to
divinity, consider him a great teacher and moral figure is completely false.  We
don't accept his claims and we are oblivious to his teachings; we are simply not
interested in him nor in what he has to say,  any more than Christians are 
interested in Mohammed."  from his book  Living Jewish - The Lore and Law of the
Practicing Jew. Michel Asheri

	"I know...the blasphemy by those who say they are 'Jews' and are not, but are a
synagogue of Satan."  Rev 2:9

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Article 13087 of alt.revisionism:
Subject: "Gentile" defined   Not non-Jew
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From: Rick_Savage@nile.com (Rick Savage)

    The self-styled "Jews" have maintained their illegitamate claim to be
"Israelites", God's chosen people, partially through purposefully distorting and
"revising" the word _Gentile_ to mean "non-Jew."  Through this additional lie
the "chosen people myth" is sustained and keeps the true heirs to the title of
"Israel" in subjection to the usurping Khazar/Pharisee "Jews".

A Study Into the Meaning of the Word Gentile as Used in the Bible
     A few years ago the writer was in the home of a friend, and as I 
looked over her books I saw that she had one of these large 
dictionaries that are usually found only in public libraries.  I said to 
her, "May I use your dictionary?"  I knew that she had always been 
interested in the correct use of words, so I thought that this would 
be a good way to start a conversation regarding our identity with 
Israel.  I turned the pages to find the word "gentile."  Immediately 
the lady asked, "What is the word you are looking for?"  I replied, 
"I am looking up the word 'gentile'."  Then she wanted to know 
what the dictionary had to say.  I gave her to understand that if the 
dictionary was correct she couldn't possibly be a gentile, which she 
had always claimed to be.  Then I read her this definition.  "A 
gentile is a pagan or a heathen or some one who is not a Jew or a 
Christian."  "Now," I said, "since you are a Christian you cannot 
possible be a gentile."  She was rather startled at what I told her.  
Then I went into the meaning of that same word as used in the 
Bible, and you may be assured that before I was through she had 
many of her long-established ideas upset.

     A great deal of confusion and misunderstanding has been 
caused by the use of the word "gentile" in the English translation of 
the Bible.  Let us take up a brief study of it.  It should always be 
remembered that foreign languages often lose the strength of their 
meaning through translation.  Then it should also be remembered 
that some words have many meanings.
     Take the word 'man' as an illustration.  Generically speaking it 
means mankind generally, both men and women.  But if it is used 
in the same sentence with the word woman, it means the male of 
the species.  If it is used in the same sentence with the word 'boy' it 
means the mature of the species.  Thus the word 'man' has three 
meanings, the meaning of the word being determined by its use in 
the context.

     Now the word 'gentile' is a translation of the Hebrew word 'goi' 
(singular) and 'goyim' (plural) and the Greek word 'ethnos' 
(singular) and 'ethne' (plural).  Using the word 'gentile' to translate 
these words is often misleading because it is a misapplication of 
the Hebrew and Greek words as used in the Bible.  The modern use 
of the word has come to mean non-Jew or non-Israel, but that 
meaning cannot be maintained in the face of the evidence I will 
present in this study.

     The Hebrew word 'goi' is a collective noun meaning 'nation' or 
sometimes a collective body of people.  But it has been translated 
into English many different ways.  The word occurs 557 times in 
the Old Testament.  The Authorized Version of the Bible translates 
it 'gentile' 30 times; 'heathen' 142 times; 'nation' 373 times; 'people' 
11 times; 'another' once.  But the American Standard Revised 
Version cuts the occurrence of  gentile from 30 to 9 times, and then 
shows in the footnotes of 5 of those 9 times that the word 'nations' 
should have been used.

     Of course the word 'nation' is not always an exact equivalent 
term because there is too much of a political significance attached 
to it.  But it is much better than the word 'gentile' and some of our 
best translators prefer the word 'nations.'   This is also shown by 
the way the Revised Version eliminates the word 'gentiles."

     The same thing is true of the Greek word 'ethnos.'  It occurs 164 
times in the New Testament.  In the Authorized Version it is 
translated 'gentiles' 93 times; 'heathen' 5 times; 'nation' or 'nations' 
64 times; and 'people' twice.  In the American Standard Revised 
Version it is 'gentiles' 96 times in the text and 7 times in the 
footnotes, making 103 occurrences altogether.  But in the footnotes 
it is corrected 15 times to read 'nations,' making the final count 88.  
So not only the Hebrew word 'goi' but also the Greek word 'ethnos' 
has been translated to read 'nations' more than any other word.

     Though the word 'gentiles' and the word 'heathen' are used 
many times in the Bible, we must face the facts that there are no 
Hebrew or Greek words that would demand this translation.

     If the reader will consult a good dictionary, you will find that 
the word 'gentile' is derived from the Latin word 'gentilis' and 
properly understood means 'non-something'.  As used by a Jew or 
an Israelite it would mean 'non-Jew' or 'non-Israelite.'  But they are 
not the only people who have a right to use the word.

     For instance, suppose a Buddhist priest spoke Latin and he 
wanted to refer to the nations that were not Buddhist, he would call 
them 'gentilis.'  In Hebrew and Greek, there is no exact equivalent 
to the Latin word 'gentilis' or the English word 'gentile,' 
nevertheless, if this same priest spoke Hebrew and Greek along 
with his Latin and wanted to refer to the nations that were not 
Buddhist, he would call them 'goyim' if speaking Hebrew and 
'ethne' if speaking Greek, and each time he would naturally include 
the Jewish and Israel people.  Likewise a Moslem priest could use 
the three languages and refer to the Jews and Israel as 'gentilis, 
goyim and ethne.'

     One important thing to always keep in mind is that 'goi' and 
'ethnos' are collective nouns and cannot properly be translated to 
mean an individual person.  They always refer to a group.  There is 
no such thing as A GENTILE; it is always plural.  'Gentiles' in its 
plural sense may at times be used to translate 'goi' and 'ethnos' but 
its use gives an added thought not intended in the original word 
which cannot in every case be justified.

     Another important word found in the Hebrew text, which needs 
only passing notice is the Hebrew word "am" and is found many 
times in the Old Testament text.  It is translated 'nation but 17 
times.  It is usually translated 'people', for it occurs that way 1,835 
times in our English text.  Occasionally it is qualified by the 
phrase, "every people," but when it is rendered "the people" it 
usually means Israel.  But this is not the word that has been the 
source of the misunderstanding.  Translations of the Hebrew word 
'goi' and the Greek word 'ethnos' have caused the trouble.

     The Hebrew word 'goi' and the Greek word 'ethnos' in their 
singular and plural forms are used in three ways in the Bible.

  1.  'In referring to the Israel and Jewish people,' let us note the 
verses which follow below found in the Old Testament and New 
Testament which refer either to Israel or the Jews as a nation and 
use the Hebrew word 'goi' and the Greek word 'ethnos.'  To 
demonstrate the absurdity of always translating the word 'goi' or 
'ethnos' as 'gentile' we suggest that you read the following verses 
substituting the word 'gentile' or 'heathen,' for 'nation' or 'nations':
 
     Gen. 12:2 - "I will make of thee a great nation."
     Gen. 17:4,5 - "A father of many nations have I made thee."
     Gen. 20:1 - "Lord, wilt thou slay a righteous nations?" 
(heathen).
     Gen. 25.23 - "Two nations are in thy womb."  (Try the word 
heathen or gentile in that verse).
     Gen. 35:11 - "A nation and a company of nations."
     Gen. 48:19 - "Thy seed shall become a multitude of nations."
     Isa. 1:4 - "Ah sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity."
     Isa. 10:6 - "Send him against an hypocritical nation."
     Jer. 31:36 - "Shall cease from being a nation before me."
     Luke 7:5 - "He loveth our nation and hath built us a 
synagogue."
     John 11:48 - "The Romans will come and take our place and 
nation."
     Acts 24:2 - "Worthy deeds are done unto this nation by the 
providence."
     Acts 24:17 - "I came to bring alms to my nation."
 
     From the foregoing verses and many others that could be given, 
it can easily be seen that the Hebrew word 'goi' and the Greek word 
'ethnos' do not always refer to non-Israel people.

  2.  Now let us read a few verses where the same words are used 
and, as can be seen, refer very definitely to non-Israel people.
 
     Gen. 14;9 - "With Chedorlaomer the king of Elam, and with 
Tidal king of nations."
     Gen. 21:13 - "And also the son of the bond woman will I make 
a nation."
     Gen. 21:18 - "For I will make of him a great nation."
     Ex. 9:21 - "...There was none like it in all the land of Egypt 
since it became a nation."
     Ex. 34:24 - "...For I will cast out the nations before thee."
     Isa. 37:12 - "Have the gods of the nations delivered them which 
my fathers have destroyed?"
     Matt. 10:5 - "Go not in the way of the gentiles."
     Matt. 24:7 - "For nation shall rise against nation."
     Luke 21:24 - "They shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall 
be led away captive into all nations."
     Acts 7:7 - "And the 'nation' to whom they shall be in bondage 
will I judge, said God."
     Acts 8:9 - "But there was a certain man called Simon which 
before time in the same city used sorcery, and bewitched the 
'people' of Samaria."
     Acts 10:45 - "... Because that on the 'Gentiles' also was poured 
out the gifts of the Holy Ghost."

     In the above verses three words have been used to translate the 
same Greek word 'ethnos', and they are 'nations,' 'gentiles' and 
'people'.

  3.  Now we come to the third way in which the words have been 
used, and that is to describe all nations, which of course always 
'includes Israel and non-Israel nations.'
 
     Gen. 22:18 - "And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth 
be blessed."
     Gen. 25:23 - "Two nations are in thy womb."
     I Chron. 16:23,24 - "Declare his glory among the 'heathen' ...his 
marvelous works among the 'nations.'"
     Psa. 9:19,20 - "...Let the 'heathen' be judged in thy sight.  Put 
them in fear, oh Lord; that the 'nations' may know themselves to be 
but men."

     - Notice the last two verses have used the two words 'heathen' 
and 'nations' to translate the same word in one passage.
 
     Matt. 24:9,14 - "...and ye shall be hated of all nations for my 
name's sake," "This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached for a 
witness to all nations."
     Matt. 28:19 - "Go ye therefore and teach all nations."
     Acts. 10:35 - "But in every nation he that feareth him, and 
worketh righteousness, is accepted with him."
     
     Attention should also be called to another Greek word 
erroneously translated 'gentiles.'  The word is 'hellen' and means 
'Greeks.'  It is used 27 times in the New Testament.  In 20 places it 
is properly translated 'Greeks', but in 7 other places in the 
Authorized Version it is erroneously translated 'gentiles.'  This has 
been corrected in the Revised Version and nearly all subsequent 
translations.  For example, the Authorized Version translates John 
7:35 to read:  "Will he go unto the dispersed among the Gentiles, 
and teach the Gentiles?"  Nearly all revised versions translate this 
to read:  "Will he go unto the dispersed among the Greek and teach 
the Greek?"  Take as another example I Corinthians 10:32, "Give 
none offense, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the 
church of God."  Now the writer has read several articles by well-
known Bible teachers who reject the Israel identity of the Anglo-
Saxon people because they say that this verse gives the only 
classes that God now recognizes.  In other words they claim on the 
authority of this verse that the human race is divided into Jews, 
Gentiles, and the Church of God.

     That is a good example of how anything can be proved by 
taking a verse out of its context.  The context shows that Paul was 
admonishing people to be conscientious in their walk so as not to 
offend a weak brother.  The division made in the text is only 
incidental to the point he was trying to make.  And then too, the 
text does not say that there are 'only three classes of people'.  What 
it does say is, "Give none offense,' neither to the Jews, nor to the 
Gentiles, nor to the church of God."

     Now if this text were given to show a division of humanity, 
then it leaves the vast majority of the race out entirely, because the 
word that is translated 'gentiles' is a palpable mistranslation and 
should be translated 'Greeks'.  This is exactly the way the Revised 
Version gives it, as is also true of most private translations.  But 
you do not even need a Revised Version to discover this error.  
Any good Bible with a marginal reading will show this to be true.  
The Greek word that has been translated 'gentiles' in this verse is 
'hellen' and means 'Greeks'.  So, if, as these men have claimed, this 
verse proves there are only three classes of people in the world 
which God now recognizes, then they are the Jews, the Greeks and 
the Christians.  Everybody else is left out.

     By using the same method of reasoning we could quote 
Galatians 3:28 and prove that God does not recognize any 
distinction in the human race; then we could go to the other 
extreme and quote Colossians 3:11 to prove that God recognizes 
eight divisions of mankind.  In both cases we would be taking the 
verse out of their context just as these men have done.  But all of 
the confusion over this text would have been avoided if the word 
'Greeks' had been used instead of 'gentiles.'  Paul was writing to the 
Corinthians, Corinth was in Greece.  They had three classes of 
people there - Jew, Greek and Christian.  Had Paul been writing to 
the Romans he no doubt would have said, "Give none offense, 
neither to the Jews, nor to the Romans, nor to the church of God.

     Besides these two examples, there are four other places where 
hellen has been translated 'gentiles' where it should have been 
translated 'Greeks'.  These are found in Romans 2:9,10; 3:9; and I 
Corinthians 12:13.

     While on this subject a few words should be said about the way 
the word "gentiles" has been used in the Epistle to the Romans, one 
of the important books in the New Testament.  And on this matter I 
will borrow some thoughts from the late Dr. Wm. Pascoe Goard.

     In Dr. Goard's book, "Epistle to the Romans," he has given 
some illuminating comments on how the word 'ethne' refers to the 
ten-tribed Israel.  These are found in the fourth and fifth chapters 
of his book.  He shows very clearly that chapters 9,10 and 11 of 
Romans refer to ten-tribed Israel.  In these chapters the Apostle 
Paul quotes quite freely from Hosea, Isaiah and Elijah, and as Dr. 
Goard shows, all these quotations refer to facts in the history of 
Judah nor in the history of any other nation.  Thus when the word 
'gentiles'  (Greek word 'ethne') is used in these three chapters it 
definitely is ten-tribed Israel.  It is not a contrast between Israel and 
non-Israel people.  It is a contrast between Israel in 975 B. C. and 
Israel known as the nations in A.D. 60.

     Do not let the word 'gentiles mislead you.  The Greek word is 
'ethne' and means 'nations.'  The Apostle Paul in this Israel section 
of his epistle is merely contrasting Israel's former state when she 
was known as Israel with her state in his day when she was known 
as the 'nations.'  To use the popularized meaning of the word, they 
had become 'gentilized' in the sense that they were not known as 
Israel.  Israel was one nation God had called out from among the 
other nations; now she was just like the other nations.

     She had lost her identity so much that the Apostle Paul said that 
blindness was to stay on Israel until the "fullness of the gentiles" 
(nations) be come in.  (Romans 11:25)  This 'fullness of the 
gentiles' should be fullness of 'nations'.  It is a direct reference to 
Genesis 18:19, where it is stated that Ephraim was to become a 
"multitude of nations" in the last days.  This is confirmed by the 
fact that both Dr. Delitzsch's translation of the New Testament into 
Hebrew - sold by the British and Foreign Bible Society - and 
Ginsburg -Salkinson's New Testament, published by the Trinitarian 
Bible Society, for the use of the Jews, have the very same Hebrew 
words - me lo hag-goyim- in Romans 11:25, that we find in 
Genesis 48:19, in the Hebrew Old Testament, and in this verse 
ONLY.  We use the expression "multitude of nations" because it is 
given as the correct reading in most Bibles in preference to fullness 
of nations.  That time has arrived now and that is the reason our 
identity as Israel is becoming known.  As Isaiah 25:7 reads, "He 
will destroy in this mountain the face of the covering cast over all 
people, and the veil that is spread over all nations."  That veil is 
being lifted now and our real identity and the identity of other 
nations is becoming known.

     Some scholars, in translating Genesis 48:19, where the Hebrew 
is 'me lo hag-goyim' render it a 'company of gentile nations.'  The 
writer is convinced that a 'company' or 'multitude of nations' is the 
better translation.  However, there is nothing wrong with the 
translation if the right meaning is attached to the word 'gentile.  
That is, they would become so much like other nations that they 
would not be recognized as Israel.  That, of course, is a different 
meaning given to the word than is meant in the original text.

To summarize:
    The word 'gentile' is derived from the Latin word 'gentilis' and is 
only one of several words that are used to translate the Hebrew 
word 'goi' and the Greek word 'ethnos' into English.  The best word 
to use is 'nations.'  It would have been better if the word 'gentile' 
had never appeared in the English text.  Neither 'goi' nor 'ethnos' 
necessarily mean non-Israel, as has been shown above.
 


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From: Rick_Savage@nile.com (Rick Savage)
>* NEVER debate the facts - the Jewish battle cry.*

Since your "facts" have been debated, contrary facts presented, and
you choose to come back with this hateful spew I suggest you now go
away little boy. You are not wanted here, nor anywhere else, nor is
your twisted gutter filth of a "religion" interesting except as a
demonstration of the depths to which human depravity can sink to.


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Article 13208 of alt.revisionism:
Subject: Circumcision "controversy" answered
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Rick_Savage@nile.com (Rick Savage), 
DS>>  who is clueless about how to properly quote. <<
      Cry about it, will ya?

dsegard@nyx.cs.du.edu (Daniel Segard), writes:
 > >>>>   According to the Covenant with Abraham "whosoever is
 > not circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin shall be CUT
 > OFF from his people, for he has broken My Covenant."  Thus
 > if someone is concerned that they might be "part of Israel
 > and not know it" all they have to do is a bit of family
 > research. If they come across any of there forefathers who
 > were not circumcised in the foreskin, then they can be
 > certain that they are cut off from any possibility of being
 > considered part of Israel. <<<<

RS writes:
 > This is the problem with the self-proclaimed "Jews" of
 > today they reject God's way and reject the more perfect
 > circumcision the Great I Am,
 

dsegard@nyx.cs.du.edu (Daniel Segard) writes:
>Savage claims that some whites are "Israel" and are descendants of
>the "lost 10 tribes".  <<< (did I quote it right Dan?  Just like you!   Does
that make you happy?)

    Guess again Dan.  Whites ARE true Israel, descendants of ALL *12* tribes. 
The imposters who call themselves "Jews" are Khazar converts to
Pharisaism/Judaism and any Israelite blood they may have in their veins flows
their because of their inter-marriage with whites.


dsegard@nyx.cs.du.edu (Daniel Segard) writes:
>However, as Torah proclaims here, even if the whites were 
>descendants of the "lost 10 tribes" they would not today be Israel 
>because they stopped circumcising their sons.
>    Savage speaks of a "more perfect circumcision" which I gather he is
>claiming replaces the circumcision required in Genesis.  By this it is
>demonstrated that Rick Savage rejects the book of Genesis as being a lie. 
>For the Covenant of Abraham declares that the circumcision of the foreskin
>shall be "performed throughout ALL your generations".  Rick Savage claims
>that the Creator lied to Abraham here and that the circumcision of the
>foreskin was not really to be required of ALL the generations of Abraham
>but would actually be replaced at a later time.
 
    The house of Israel (the "lost" 10 tribes) were indeed "cut off", read 
Hosea 1.  In Hosea 1 and confirmed in Hebrews 8:8-12 they were to be
REDEEMED into a new Covenantal relationship with God through "one leader,"
who happened to be Christ Jesus (the mediator of the New Covenant).  
    Cut off Israel is REDEEMED (bought back) through the circumcision of 
the WHOLE flesh through baptism.  (Col 2:11-14, the one you edited out
of the message you are replying to, remember?)


dsegard@nyx.cs.du.edu (Daniel Segard), goes on:
 > Dan:  (Mr Savage will no doubt respond with something about
 > being circumcised in the heart as well.  I will agree that
 > in Deuteronomy the circumcision of the heart is required as
 > well, but that this does not replace physical
 > circumcision.)
 >
Rick>  Not quite, more than the heart is required to be
 > circumcised, yes, but it is a circumcision of
 > the WHOLE flesh.
 
dsegard@nyx.cs.du.edu (Daniel Segard), concludes:
>   The concept of the circumcision of the heart was introduced in the
>book of Deuteronomy.  But you will notice that the requirement of the
>circumcision of the foreskin was not dropped at that time, since the
>circumcision of the foreskin is required for ALL generations.
>   The idea of seeing Rick Savage circumcise his WHOLE flesh from his
>body has a certain appeal I am sure.  I wonder if he could provide us with
>pictures of him doing this to himself?

Actually I do have a picture of it, my baptism, circumcision of the WHOLE flesh:
     "And in Him (Christ) you were also circumcised with a circumcision made
without hands, in the removal of the body of the flesh *by the circumcision of
Christ*; 
     "having been buried with Him in baptism, in which you were also raised up
with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead.  
     "And when you were dead in your transgressions and the *uncircumcision of
your flesh*, He made you alive together with Him, having forgiven us all our
transgressions, 
     "having canceled out the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against
us which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it
to the cross."
      (Colossians 2:11-14)

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Article 13209 of alt.revisionism:
Subject: Israel's Identity,pt.1- Natl. Aspects
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From: Rick_Savage@nile.com (Rick Savage)

CHAPTER 9 of the book 
"God's Covenant People - Yesterday, Today and Forever"
by Ted R. Weiland of:
Mission to Israel, PO Box 248, Scottsbluff, NE 69363

(Note:  The author uses the Hebrew "YHWH" and "YHSHUA" in place of  the English
"Lord" and "Jesus".  Excuse the formatting, OCR'd)

ISRAEL'S SCRIPTURAL IDENTITY 

NATIONAL ASPECTS

ISRAEL WAS THE ONLY PEOPLE KNOWN AS GOD'S SHEEP WHO WOULD RECOGNIZE YHSHUA AS
THEIR SAVIOR/SHEPHERD

O God, why hast Thou rejected us forever? Why does Thine anger smoke against the
sheep of Thy pasture? Remember Thy congregation, which Thou hast purchased of
old, which Thou hast redeemed to be the tribe of Thine inheritance; and Mount
Zion, where Thou hast dwelt. (Psalm 74:1,2)

All of us like sheep have gone astray, each of us has turned to his own way; but
YHWH has caused the iniquity of us all to fall on Him. (Isaiah 53:6)

Hear the word of YHWH, O nations, and declare in the coastlands afar off, and
say, "He who scattered Israel will gather him, and keep him as a shepherd keeps
his flock." For YHWH has ransomed Jacob, and redeemed him from the hand of him
who was stronger than he. (Jeremiah 31:10,11)

"My people have become lost sheep; their shepherds have led them astray.I" 
Israel is a scattered flock, the lions have driven them away. The first one who
devoured him was the king of Assyria, and this last one who has broken his bones
is Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon. (Jeremiah 50:6P17)
 
For thus says YHWH God, "Behold, I Myself will search for My sheep and seek them
out. As a shepherd cares for his herd in the day when he is among his scattered
sheep, so I will care for My sheep and will deliver them from all the places to
which they were scattered on a cloudy and gloomy day. And I will bring them from
the peoples and gather them from the countries and bring them to their own land;
and I will feed them on the mountains of Israel, by the streams and in all the
inhabited places of the land. I will feed them in a good pasture, and their
grazing ground will be on the mountain heights of Israel. There they will lie
down in good grazing ground, and they will feed in rich pasture on the mountains
of Israel. I will feed My flock and I will lead them to rest," declares YHWH
God. "I will seek the lost, bring back the scattered, bind up the broken, and
strengthen the sick; but the fat and the strong I will destroy. I will feed them
with judgment." (Ezekiel 34:11P16)

"Then I will set over them one shepherd, My servant David [Yhshua: King David is
dead at the time of this prophecy], and he will feed them; he will feed them
himself and be their shepherd. And I, YHWH, will be their God, and My servant
David will be prince among them; I, YHWH, have spoken." (Ezekiel 34:23,24)

"Then they will know that I, YHWH their God, am with them, and that they, the
house of Israel, are My people." declares YHWH God. "As for you, My sheep, the
sheep of My pasture, you are men, and I am your God," declares YHWH God.
(Ezekiel 34:30,31)

Shepherd Thy people with Thy scepter, the flock of Thy possession which dwells
by itself in the woodland, in the midst of a fruitful field. Let them feed in
Bashan and Gilead as in the days of old. "As in the days of when you came out
from the land of Egypt, I will show you miracles." (Micah 7:14,15)
Ibut rather go to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.  (Matthew 10:6)

But He answered and said, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of
Israel." (Matthew 15:24)

 "I am the good shepherd; the good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep."
(John 10:11)

"I am the good shepherd; and I know My own, and My own know Me, even as the
Father knows Me and I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep
[house of Judah in Judea]. And I have other sheep [house of Israel scattered
abroad], which are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they shall hear
My voice; and they shall become one flock with one Shepherd." (John 10:14P16 cf.
Ezek. 37:15P23; Mic. 2:12,13; 5:2P5; Hos. 1:11)

 "My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow MeI."   (John 10:27
cf. Jer. 24:7)

Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who reside as aliens, scattered
["Israelite resident(s) in Gentile countries" - Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
of the Bible] throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, who
are chosenI. (I Peter 1:1)

For you [Israelite resident(s) in Gentile countries, see I Pet. 1:1] were
continually straying like sheep, but now you have returned to the Shepherd and
Guardian of your souls. (I Peter 2:25)

It is important to note that in Jeremiah 50:17 God has included all twelve
tribes in His prophecy: "Israel is a scattered flock, the lions have driven them
away. The first one who devoured him was the king of Assyria [who took primarily
the house of Israel into captivity], and the last one who has broken his bones
is Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon [who took primarily the house of Judah into
captivity]." It was these lost and scattered sheep to whom Yhshua was sent as we
read in Ezekiel 34:
For thus says the Lord YHWH, "Behold, I Myself will search for My sheep and seek
them out." "I I will seek the lost, bring back the scatteredI." "IThen I will
set over them one shepherd, My servant David  [Yhshua], and he will feed them;
he will feed them himself and be their shepherd." (Ezekiel 34:11,16, 23)

In fulfillment of these prophecies, Yhshua declared:

"I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." (Matthew 15:24)

"My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.I" (John 10:27)

WHICH PEOPLE
HEAR THE SHEPHERD'S CALL TO SALVATION, RESPOND,
AND CLAIM YHSHUA AS THEIR MESSIAH AND SAVIOR?


JEWS

Certainly not the Jews! They reject the Christian religion, and with utmost
vehemence they denounce Yhshua. The Talmud contains many defamatory remarks
concerning Yhshua the Christ:

KALLAH, 1b (18b): Once when the Elders were seated at the Gate, two young men
passed by, one of whom had his head covered, the other his head bare. Rabbi
Eliezer remarked that the one in his bare head was illegitimate, a mamzer. Rabbi
Jehoschua said that he was conceived during menstruation, ben niddah. Rabbi
Akibah, however, said that he was both. Whereupon the others asked Rabbi Akibah
why he dared to contradict his colleagues. He answered that he could prove what
he said. He went therefore to the boy's mother I and said to her: "My daughter,
if you will answer truthfully what I am going to ask you, I promise that you
will be saved in the next life." She demanded that he would swear to keep his
promise, and Rabbi Akibah did so - but with his lips only, for in his heart he
invalidated his oath. Then he said: "Tell me, what kind of son is this of
yours?" To which she replied: "The day I was married I was having menstruation,
and because of this my husband left me. But an evil spirit came and slept with
me and from this intercourse my son was born to me." Thus it was proved that
this young man was not only illegitimate but also conceived during the
menstruation of his motherI.
(It is demonstrated in the book Toldath Jeschu - "The Generations of Jesus' that
the Jews understand the above story from Kallah to refer to Yhshua and his
mother Mary
Regarding the 'Toldath Jeschu', Joseph Klausner stated, "We can gather from it
what was the view of the Jews on the life and teachings of Jesus, from the fifth
to the tenth centuries."  Joseph Klausner, 'Jesus of Nazareth - His Life, Times,
and Teaching' (New York: The Macmillan Company, 1953) 53)

YEBBAMOTH IV 3;49a: R. Shimeon ben 'Azzai said: I found a genealogical roll in
Jerusalem wherein was recorded, "Such-an-one is a bastard of an adulteress."

SANHEDRIN, 67a: Of all who are guilty of death by the Law, he aloneI. This is
what they did to the son [Yhshua] of Stada [Mary] in Lud, and they hanged him on
the eve of the Passover. For this son of Stada was the son of Pandira [a Roman
soldier]
(In Chagigah, 43, another book of the Talmud, it is verified that this
dissertation regarding "Stada" is about Mary, the mother of Yhshua.)

SANHEDRIN, 107b: Mar said: Jesus seduced, corrupted and destroyed Israel.

SCHABBATH, 104b: Rabbi Eliezer said: "Did not the son of Stada [Yhshua] practice
Egyptian magic? Ihe was a fool, and we do not pay attention to what fools do."1

Under the heading "Jesus In Rabbinical Literature," The Universal Jewish
Encyclopedia confirms some of the above statements from the Talmud:

Iin Jewish history Jesus was not an outstanding figure; the impression which he
may have made on the Judaism of his time can have been neither deep nor
lasting.I That he is mentioned by name in rabbinical literature is beyond
question; but what is said of him amounts to hardly more than a vague and
careless remembrance of one who for a while "troubled Israel."
Ithere is enough in rabbinical literature to show that the historical Jesus of
Nazareth is really mentioned there. It is stated (Sandh. 43a), "On the eve of
Pesach they hanged Jeshu Hanotzri. And the crier went forth before him forty
days (saying) Jeshu Hanotzri goeth forth to be stoned because he hath practised
magic and deceived and led astray Israel." The last sentence is repeated (Sandh.
107b)I

All the above passages are contemporary with the Mishnah. They inform us of a
person who was called Jeshu Hanotzri, who had disciples, in whose name his
followers cured or attempted to cure sick persons, who practised magic and
deceived and led astray Israel, and who was tried and put to death for so
doing.I The conclusion follows that either the historical Jesus of Nazareth is
here referred to, or else some wholly unknown man of the same name and
dwelling-place and living at the same time. There can be no question that the
reference is to the historical Jesus.2

Under the heading "Jesus of Nazareth," The Jewish Encyclopedia states the
following regarding references to Yhshua in the Talmud and other Jewish sources:

Iin the life of Jesus ("Toledot Yeshu,") that originated in the Middle Ages. It
is the tendency I to belittle the person of Jesus by ascribing to him
illegitimate birth, magic, and a shameful death.

The earliest authenticated passage ascribing illegitimate birth to Jesus is that
in Yeb.iv.3  [Yebamoth-Talmud].


I  It is certain, in any case, that the rabbinical sources also regard Jesus as
the "son of Pandera" I although it is noteworthy that he is called also "Ben
Stada" I (Shad. 104b; Sanh. 67a) [Schabbath, Sanhedrin-Talmud].

I All the "Toledot" editions I declared him to be a bastard.

Iwitchcraft attributed to Jesus in the "Toledot."
I As Balaam the magician and according to the derivation of his name, "destroyer
of the people," was from both of these points of view a good prototype of Jesus,
the latter was also called "Balaam."
I It is clear, therefore, that the Jewish legends deny the resurrection of
Jesus; the halakic assertion that Balaam (i.e., the prototype of Jesus) had no
part in the future life must also be especially noted (Sanh. x.2). It is further
said: "The pupils of the recreant Balaam inherit hell" (Abot v.19). Jesus is
accordingly, in the following curious Talmudic legend, thought to sojourn in
hell. A certain Onkelos b. Kalonikos, son of Titus' sister, desired to embrace
Judaism, and called up from hell by magic first Titus, then Balaam, and finally
Jesus, who are here taken together as the worst enemies of Judaism.3

It is also admitted by Chief Rabbi Hertz in the Foreward to The Babylonian
Talmud that Yhshua, "the Founder of Christianity," is mentioned in the Talmud:

After the invention of printing, stupid and over-zealous censors not only
expunged the few passages that refer to the Founder of Christianity I. Only one
edition of the Talmud has escaped defacement at the hands of the censors, having
been printed in Holland.4

The book Zohar, III, (282), tells us that Yhshua died like a beast and was
buried in that "dirt heap [some have translated this as 'dung heap'] I where
they throw the dead bodies of dogs and asses, and where the sons of Esau
[Christians, per the Zohar] and of Ishmael [Turks, per the Zohar], also Jesus
and Mohammed, uncircumcised and unclean like dead dogs, are buried."5

Many prominent Jews over the years have been quite vocal in portraying Yhshua
the Christ as a liar, heretic, blasphemer, deceiver, and false prophet. Many
have gone so far as to revel in the fact that Yhshua was put to death:

PHARISEES, SADDUCEES, SCRIBES, CHIEF PRIESTS AND ELDERS* (* Under the heading
"Jesus," The New Standard Jewish Encyclopedia  admits "The Gospels depict J.
[Jesus, Ed] and the Pharisees as mutually hostile...."  'The New Standard Jewish
Encyclopedia' (Garden City, NY: Doubleday & Company, Inc., 1977) 1041)

And behold, some of the scribes said to themselves, "This fellow blasphemes."
(Matthew 9:3)

Then the chief priests and the elders of the people were gathered together in
the court of the high priest, named Caiaphas; and they plotted together to seize
Yhshua by stealth, and kill Him. But they were saying, "Not during the festival,
lest a riot occur among the people." (Matthew 26:3P5)

Then the high priest tore his robes, saying, "He [Yhshua] has blasphemed! What
further need do we have of witnesses? Behold, you have now heard the blasphemy;
what do you think?" They answered and said, "He is deserving of death!" Then
they spat in His face and beat Him with their fists; and others slapped Him.
(Matthew 26:65P67)

In the same way the chief priests also, along with the scribes and elders, were
mocking Him [Yhshua], and saying, "He saved others; He cannot save Himself. He
is the King of Israel; let Him now come down from the cross and we shall believe
in Him." (Matthew 27:41,42)

Now on the next day, which is the one after the preparation, the chief priests
and the Pharisees gathered together with Pilate, and said, "Sir, we remember
that when He [Yhshua] was still alive that deceiver saidI."   (Matthew 27:62,63)

But there were some of the scribes sitting there and reasoning in their hearts,
"Why does this man [Yhshua] speak that way? He is blaspheming; who can forgive
sins but God alone?" (Mark 2:6,7)

And the scribes who came down from Jerusalem were saying, "He [Yhshua] is
possessed by Beelzebul," and "He casts out the demons by the ruler of the
demons." (Mark 3:22)

And Pilate summoned the chief priests and the rulers and the peopleI. And
Pilate, wanting to release Yhshua, addressed them again, but they kept on
calling out, saying, "Crucify, crucify Him!" And he said to them the third time,
"Why, what evil has this man done? I have found in Him no guilt demanding death;
I will therefore punish Him and release Him." But they were insistent, with loud
voices asking that He be crucified. And their voices began to prevail.  (Luke
23:13P23)

The Pharisees therefore said to Him [Yhshua], "You are bearing witness of
Yourself; Your witness is not true." (John 8:13)

Therefore the chief priests and the Pharisees convened a council, and were
saying, "What are we doing? For this man [Yhshua] is performing many signs. If
we let Him go on like this, all men will believe in Him, and the Romans will
come and take away both our place and our nation." I So from that day on they
planned together to kill Him.I Now the chief priests and the Pharisees had given
orders that if anyone knew where He was, he should report it, that they might
seize Him. (John 11:47P57)

When Pilate therefore heard these words, he brought Yhshua outI.  And he said to
the Jews, "Behold your King!" They therefore cried out, "Away with Him, away
with Him, crucify Him!" Pilate said to them, "Shall I crucify your King?" The
chief priests answered, "We have no king but Caesar." (John 19:13P15)

HARRY WATON, AUTHOR
IJesus is a dead God.I6
 
SAMUEL ROTH, AUTHOR
We despised the goy [non-Jew, i.e., Christian Israelites], and we hated his
religion. The goy, according to the stories crooned into the ears of the
children, wantonly worshipped an unsightly creature called the yoisel [Yhshua] -
and a dozen names too foul for repetition. The yoisel had once been a human
being and a Jew. But one day he had gone out of his mind, and in that pitiably
bewildered state announced that he was the Lord God himself. To prove it, he
offered to fly over the populace like an angel. With the help of a page
blasphemously torn out of Holy Writ, and placed under his sweating arm, the
yoisel did fly over the multitudes of Jews in the crowded streets of Jerusalem.
So impressive a spectacle did he create that even the most pious among the Jews
were moved in his direction. But Rabbi Shammai, angered at the foul impudence of
this demented creature, and fearful of a possible religious crisis on earth,
tore out two leaves from the pages of Holy Writ, and placing them one under each
arm flew even higher than the yoisel with only one page of Holy Writ for motor
power. He flew over the yoisel himself and urinated over him. Instantly the
power of the yoisel's bit of Holy Writ was nullified and the yoisel fell to the
ground amidst the jeers and taunts of the true believers in the streets of
Jerusalem.7

DR. JOSEPH KLAUSNER, AUTHOR
Judas Iscariot became convinced that here was a false Messiah or a false
prophet, erring and making to err, a beguiler and one who led astray, one whom
the Law commanded to be killed, one to whom the Law forbade pity or compassion
or forgiveness. Till such time as Jesus divulged his messianic claims to the
disciples at Caesarea Philippi, Judas had not thought to find in Jesus more than
might be found in any Pharisaic Rabbi or, at the most, in a Jewish prophet. But
after this revelation to the disciples at Caesarea, and to the entire people at
Jerusalem, Judas expected that in the Holy City, the centre of the religion and
the race, Jesus would demonstrate his claims by mighty works, that he would
destroy the Romans and bring the Pharisees and Sadducees to naught; then all
would acknowledge his messianic claims and all would see him in his pomp and
majesty as the "final saviour."

But what, in fact, did Judas see? No miracles (Matthew alone tells how Jesus
healed the blind and lame in the Temple, matters unknown to Mark), no mighty
deeds, no one is subdued by him, the mighty Messiah escapes nightly to Bethany;
except for "bold" remarks against the tradition of the elders and vain
arrogance, Jesus reveals no plan by which he will effect the redemption. Was it
not, then, a "religious duty" to deliver up such a "deceiver" to the government
and so fulfill the law: Thou shalt exterminate the evil from thy midst?8

While reflecting upon Judas, we can see that Dr. Klausner considered Judas the
righteous one, and Yhshua as the one who deserved death. Dr. Klausner continued:

What is Jesus to the Jewish nation at the present day? To the Jewish nation he
can be neither God nor the Son of God.I Either conception is to the Jew not only
impious and blasphemous, but incomprehensible. Neither can he, to the Jewish
nation, be the Messiah: the kingdom of heaven (the "Days of the Messiah") is not
yet come. Neither can they regard him as a Prophet.I Neither can they regard him
as a lawgiver or the founder of a new religion.I9

BERNARD LAZARE, AUTHOR
Ithey [the Jews] are the enemies of God and Jesus Christ I in their daily
prayers they curse the Saviour under the name of the Nazarene.I10

RABBI JOACHIM PRINZ
It  [the New Testament] presupposes the concept of Jesus of Nazareth as a
divinity, a concept which we do not accept I we do not accept Jesus of Nazareth
as the Christ.11

CHIEF RABBI STEPHEN S. WISE
I took up the challenge and told why I reject the Divine Messiahship of Jesus,
without any attempt at concealment of my attitude towards the idolatrous
features of orthodox Christianity.I12

We [Jewry] do not believe that Jesus is in any unique sense the Son of God.13

DR. BENJAMIN H. FREEDMAN, AUTHOR
The reason it is called the "Holy Land" today is because Jesus of Nazareth lived
and died there. To Christians He is the Son of God and Saviour. To Mohammedans
He is a great prophet. To official Jewry, He is an executed blasphemer.14

BEN HECHT, AUTHOR AND PLAYWRIGHT
One of the finest things ever done by the mob was the crucifixion of Christ.
Intellectually it was a splendid gesture. But trust the mob to bungle. Iif I'd
have had charge of executing Christ, I'd have handled it differently. You see,
what I would have done was had him shipped to Rome and fed to the lions. They
could never have made a savior out of mince meat.15* 
(* The 'Universal Jewish Encyclopedia,' Vol 5, 288, had the audacity to laud Mr.
Hecht as a great author and movie producer who had a "fabuolous mind" and one
who was a "romantic realist," a talented genuis who displayed "profound humanity
and universal sympathies.")

RABBI MEIR KAHANE
I have not the slightest sympathy for Christianity or Jesus. As a believing Jew,
not only is Jesus not "God," but he is neither Messiah nor prophet. For the Jew
he was a blasphemer, one who attacked the Torah as unchanging divine law and who
was a false prophet and heretic.16

The Jews who find themselves in agreement with Rabbi Meier Kahan fit the
description of "the anti-Christ" rather than the description of  "the Chosen
People." Note their behavior and beliefs are similar to those of the anti-Christ
as described by the Apostle John:

Who is the liar but the one who denies that Yhshua is the Christ [Messiah]? This
is the antichrist, the one who denies the Father and the Son. (I John 2:22)

For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not acknowledge
Yhshua [the] Christ [Messiah] as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and
the antichrist. (II John 7)

The Jews very definitely DO NOT consider Yhshua as their Messiah! If Yhshua is
not the Jewish Messiah, then who is? The Jews believe that they, themselves, are
their own Messiah. Their "sacred" books and many of their prominent members
boast of this belief:

THE TALMUD
KETHUBOTH 111a, note #4: The throes of mother Zion which is in labour to bring
forth the Messiah - without metaphor, the Jewish people. 

THE CABALA
The Jew is the living God, God incarnate: he is the heavenly man. The other men
are earthly, of inferior race. They exist only to serve the Jew. They are the
cattle seed.17*
(* Compare this statement with II Thessalonians 2:3,4, "Let no one in any way
deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man
of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts
himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his
seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God."

THE JEWISH ENCYCLOPEDIA
Israel [the Jews], as the people of the saints of the Most High, is to establish
the kingdom of God to last foreverI. But as teacher and guardian of mankind's
purest faith and loftiest hope, he is dealt with more severely by God for every
transgressionI. Nay more, as the servant of God he has been chosen for continual
martyrdom in the cause of truth and justice; he [the Jews] therefore, is the
"man of sorrows" whose affliction is to bring healing to the world and to lead
many to righteousness. (Isa. 1ii. 1iii.;.I).18

ELIE WIESEL, AUTHOR
Yes, the sacrifice of Isaac prefigures the holocaust [Rather than prefiguring
the sacrifice of Yhshua].I19

ALFRED M. LILIENTHAL, AUTHOR
The personification of the deity in Jesus gave Christianity a spiritual warmth
which formalistic and legalistic Judaism lacked. A "God with a face" is a Divine
Being of immediate and intimate meaning to humans. But I [the Jews] possessed
their advantage of a direct approach to God without the need of an intercessor.
Gradually, however, the "Jewish people" has become the intermediary between
Yahweh and those who would worship him.20

LEON SIMON, AUTHOR
In a word: Hebraism [Judaism] tends to insist on the Hebrew nation [the Jews] as
the mediating term between its individual members and the infinite.I21

CHIEF RABBI STEPHEN S. WISE
You will understand me when I say to you that Jews cannot accept Jesus or anyone
else as the one redeeming, atoning Son of God. We believe we have access to God
without intermediary. Such is the teaching, implicit and explicit, of Israel
[Jewry].22

MOSES HESS, AUTHOR
Every Jew has the making of a Messiah in himself, every Jewess that of a Mater
Delorosa in herself.23
Mr. Hess also said that the aim of the Jews must be a "Messianic state" in which
to prepare mankind for the revelation of the "divine essence."24

BARUCH LEVY
The Jewish people as a whole will be its own Messiah. It will attain world
dominion by the dissolution of other races, by the abolition of frontiers, the
annihilation of monarchy, and by the establishment of a world republic in which
the Jews will everywhere exercise the privilege of citizenship. In this new
world order 25 the Children of Israel will furnish all the leaders without
difficulty into the hands of the Jews.26

RABBI ROLAND B. GITTELSOHN
What do Jews believe about the Messiah? Ithey do not expect the Messiah to be
the Son of God. Most non-Orthodox Jews hinge their hopes more on a messianic age
than on an individual messiah.27

Rabbi Gittelsohn quoted an unnamed rabbi as saying:

There is a spark of messiah in each of us; when we [the Jews]  succeed in
putting together all our individual sparks, the result will constitute the
coming of the messiah!28

DR. JOSEPH KLAUSNER, AUTHOR
Thus the whole people Israel [the Jews] in the form of the elect of the nation
gradually became the Messiah of the world, the Redeemer of mankind.29


The article on the following page appeared in the Greeley (Colorado) Tribune and
sums up the difference between the Christian and Jewish messiahs:

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Hebrew Christians bridge two worlds
Opponents say it's impossible

By MARY HYNES
Tribune Staff Writer

	The concept of a Hebrew Christian is a theoretical impossibility, said Rabbi
Harley Karz-Wagman of the Hillel Foundation in Boulder.
	"By the Jewish perspective, the Messiah is a human being who is not divineI,"
said Karz-Wagman. "This is obviously different from the Christian version of
Jesus. By the Christian view, Jesus is obviously the savior."
	"They [the Christians] take verses quoted from the Bible I trying to show that
the Messiah is Jesus," said Rabbi Avram Rothman, executive director of B'nai
B'rith Hillel Foundation of Colorado. "For instance," he said, "Miller's quotes
about the suffering and triumphant Messiah are traditionally understood by Jews
to refer not to an individual, but to the Jewish people." 
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Keep the foregoing comments of the two Rabbis in mind as you read a description
of the anti-Christ as taken from Scripture. "The anti-Christ" is Scripturally
described as a plurality of people who neither believe that Yhshua is the
Messiah, nor that the Messiah appeared in the flesh. If you have difficulty with
"the anti-Christ" being a plurality of people, read II John 7 again:

For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not acknowledge
Yhshua [the] Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the
antichrist. (II John 7)

Isn't it interesting that the plurality of people who best fit this description
of the "anti-Christ" are those who claim that they, as a plurality of people,
are the Messiah in the flesh!30
Regarding a pamphlet by Francisco de Torrejoncillo entitled Sentinel Against the
Jews, Bernard Lazare commented:

Written in Spain at the beginning of the seventeenth centuryI. It consisted of
fourteen books and showed that the Jews were presumptuous and liars, that they
were traitors I that they were turbulent, self-conceited, seditious, that the
church preserved them only that in their midst might be born their Messiah the
anti-christ, who will be vanquished to allow Israel to recognize his error.31

The Jews, without question, are not the sheep who would hear the Shepherd's call
and heed His beckoning. Instead, it appears the Jews fit the description of the
"wolves in sheep's clothing" of whom Yhshua warned us in Matthew 7:15.
Biblically, "sheep" were always Israelites. If we are to heed Yhshua's warning
regarding wolves, we should beware of those who masquerade as sheep, those who
claim to be Israelites but are not. This brings to mind again the passage in
Revelation:

Behold, I will cause those of the synagogue of Satan who say that they are Jews
[Judahites, hence Israelites] and are not, but lie - behold, I will make them to
come and bow down at your feet, and to know that I have loved you. (Revelation
3:9)

Yhshua exposed the Pharisees as being:

Iwhitewashed tombs which on the outside appear beautiful, but inside they are
full of dead men's bones and all uncleanness. Even so you too outwardly appear
righteous to men, but inwardly you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness.
(Matthew 23:27,28)

Who are the Pharisees today? They are modern-day, Talmudic-Jewry. Furthermore,
notice in the following statement that the Jews themselves admit to being the
wolves not the sheep:

The goyim are a flock of sheep, and we are their wolves. And you know what
happens when the wolves get hold of the flock.32



CELTO-SAXONS

Notice the Jews not only admit that they are the wolves, but they also identify
the sheep as "the goyim." Anyone who is honest with the history of Christianity
knows as an indisputable fact that the Celto-Saxon peoples ("goyim" or "sheep"
to the Jews) are primarily the ones who have responded to the Shepherd's call.

ISRAEL TO RECOGIZE YHWH AS THEIR GOD

"Behold the days are coming," declares YHWH, "when I will make a new covenant
with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah, not like the covenant
which I made with their fathers in the day I took them by the hand to bring them
out of the land of EgyptI." declares YHWH. "But this is the covenant which I
will make with the house of Israel after those days," declares YHWH, "I will put
My law within them, and on their heart I will write it; and I will be their God,
and they shall be My people. And they shall not teach again, each man his
neighbor and each man his brother, saying, 'Know YHWH,' for they shall all know
Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them," declares YHWH, "for I will
forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more." (Jeremiah
31:31P34)

"And you, son of man, take for yourself one stick and write on it, 'For Judah
and for the sons of Israel, his companions';  then take another stick and write
on it, 'For Joseph, the stick Ephraim and all the house of Israel, his
companions.' Then join them for yourself one to another into one stick, that
they may become one in your hand. And when the sons of your people speak to you
saying, 'Will you not declare to us what you mean by these?' say to them, 'Thus
says YHWH God, "Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of
Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel, his companions; and I will put them with it,
with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they will be one in My
hand."' And the sticks on which you write will be in your hand before their
eyes. And say to them, 'Thus says YHWH God, "Behold, I will take the sons of
Israel from among the nations [Gentiles] where they have gone, and I will gather
them from every side and bring them into their own land; and I will make them
one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel; and one king will be king
for all of them; and they will no longer be two nations, and they will no longer
be divided into two kingdoms. And they will no longer defile themselves with
their idols, or with their detestable things, or with any of their
transgressions; but I will deliver them from all their dwelling places in which
they have sinned, and will cleanse them. And they will be My people, and I will
be their God."' (Ezekiel 37:16P23)

For finding fault with them, He says, "Behold, days are coming, says YHWH, When
I will effect a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of
JudahI. For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after
those days, says YHWHI. And I will be their God, and they shall be My people.
And they shall not teach every one his fellow-citizen, and every one his
brother, saying, 'Know YHWH,' for all shall know Me, from the least to the
greatest of them." (Hebrews 8:8P11)

WHEN LEFT TO THEMSELVES, WHICH PEOPLE
INSTINCTIVELY BELIEVE THAT YHWH IS THEIR GOD?


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(part 2, continuation from Chpt. 9, "God's Covenant People - Yesterday, Today,
Forever" by Ted R. Weiland.)

JEWS

Some would say this characteristic fits the Jews. But does it? Rabbi Eliezer
Berkovits noted a distinct difference between the god of the Jews and the God of
the Bible when he stated:

When Christians use the term "Judeo-Christian," "Judeo" means something
fundamentally different from what is Jewish for the Jew. Nor does Judaism have a
common spiritual patrimony with Christianity in the Patriarchs and the Prophets:
in Jewish understanding, the God of Abraham is not the triune deity of
Christianity.33

In an address before the New York Free Synagogue, Emil G. Hirsch, a Jew, stated
the following: 
Scholars not of their band had demonstrated that Talmudic tradition and all it
inculcated as obligatory had passed through many channels, widening and varying
its currents as the days proceeded and that in many matters, Talmudism was a
clear departure from Biblical theory and practice. Even the central tenet of
Judaism, the concept of the Godhead, other investigators had pointed out, had
developed and changed in content and formulation in obedience to the rhythm of
changing thought.34

The truth of this statement is demonstrated in the following quotes. In his book
Jews Must Live, Samuel Roth offered this interesting insight into Jewish
thinking about God:

But the Jewish form of prayer differs both in heart and in outline from any
other species of prayer in the world. The difference is the difference between
one approach to God and another. Mohammedans and Christians humble themselves
before their deities. The Christian in church. The Mohammedan wherever he may
happen to be when the muezzin announces the hour of prayer. The Jew has
everything very carefully arranged. God belongs in the synagogue. He, the Jew,
belongs in the marketplace. God has only one business. It is to look after the
prosperity of Israel. The Jew walks briskly into his synagogue three times a
day, at set hours, to remind God of this important business.35

The same arrogance and blasphemy are demonstrated under the heading "Judaism" in
The Jewish Encyclopedia:

It was the prophetic spirit of the Jewish nation embodied in Abraham I which
transformed YHWH, an original tribal deity localized on Sinai and connected with
the celestial phenomena of nature, into the God of holiness I the moral governor
of the world.36  

In his book Rome and Jerusalem, Moses Hess wrote in the same vein:

Judaism would have shared in the fate of those offshoot religions which froze
into dogma and perished in the destructive conflict with modern science, were it
not the creator of its own lofty concept of God, were its religious teaching not
the product of its own living experience.37

The following comment concerning Mr. Hess appeared in Rabbi Maurice J. Bloom's
book Rome and Jerusalem wherein the Jewish people are equated with being God:

The same humanitarianism led Hess to propose the establishment of a Jewish
Commonwealth in Palestine "in order to realize the historical ideal of our
people, an ideal which is neither more nor less than the reign of God upon
earth."38

Mr. Hess confirmed this belief in his own book Communist Credo in Questions and
Answers:

Our God is nothing more than the human race united in love.39

Keep in mind that to the Jew, only Jews constitute the human race. All other
people are goyim (cattle). 

Quite creatively, Harry Waton made the Jews and Jehovah (YHWH) synonymous:

The name Jehovah consists of four letters: Yod, He Vav He. If you look on these
four letters in the Bible, you will see that the forms of the letters symbolize
the physical form of man.I Physically and spiritually man is the epitome of
Jehovah. In man Jehovah realizes himself.I

IJudaism is the perception of this eternal and infinite idea of Jehovah, and the
endeavor to realize this idea.40

Since Jehovah is the God of evolution, history and destiny, it follows that
Judaism is the only religion that is evolution, history and destiny. Like
Jehovah, Judaism speaks the language of: I Am Becoming what I Am to Become. 41
The whole Bible was written in accordance with an infinite mathematical system.
Now, the numerical value of the name Shaddai [one of God's names] (in Hebrew) is
314. And the numerical value of the expression (in Hebrew): And he was gathered
to his people - is also 314. This is the meaning of the expression used by the
Bible upon the death of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. It means that Jehovah, as the
tree of eternal life, continues to live in the Jewish people.42

Still later, the rabbis begin to speak in their own name. And the Talmud tells
us of cases in which some rabbis even overruled Jehovah. This process went so
far that some rabbis declared, that the Zaddick - the righteous man - can order
and Jehovah must comply with the order. Thus we see a complete turn of the
table. At first man was entirely dependent upon Jehovah, and now Jehovah became
a mere servant of man. What does this show? It shows the ordinary process of
intellectual and spiritual evolution.43

In his book The Nineteenth Century and After, Professor Ossendowski, a Jew,
demonstrated that Judaism and Bolshevism are essentially one and the same.
Having established this, he then stated:

Bolshevism dispersed these illusions. It showed the Russian soul in its
nakedness, with its unsatisfied lust for destruction, blood and revenge, a soul
which has torn into rags the idea of God and religion.44

Alfred Lilienthal revealed how the Jews have replaced the worship of YHWH with
the worship of themselves:

In contemporary Judaism the worship of the state of Israel and its symbols has
been gradually and unfortunately crowding out the worship of the One God.45

In a sense the Judeans and those who followed, the Jews, by substituting
tribalism for universalism, became abject idolators of the new polytheism P
nationalism. Their relationship to God was subordinated to their relationship
toward one another.46

Karl Marx stated emphatically the need to destroy the concept of God:

The idea of God is the keynote of a perverted civilization. It must be
destroyed.47

The criticism of religion ends with the teaching that man  [the Jews] is the
supreme being of man.48

James Yaffe reported that Rabbi Sherwin Wine of the Birmingham Temple saw no
need for the concept of God:

Ithe whole concept of God is outdated; Judaism can function perfectly well
without it.49

Mr. Yaffe then made his own comment:

And so it seems we must agree with Rabbi Richard Israel, who writes in
Commentary's symposium on Jewish belief, "[The current discussion on] the Death
of God will cause Jews to ask, 'So what else is new?' I The Jewish funeral was a
much more private affair. We buried him [YHWH] quietly and in the middle of the
night."50 

In an address delivered in 1910 before the New York Free Synagogue, Jacob H.
Schiff, a Jew, stated:

"Hear, Oh Israel, the Lord our God is the only God" has a living meaning, who
carries within him the conviction that the day will come, and labors to bring it
nearer when the Unity of God and the brotherhood of man will be universally
recognized, is a Jew.51

The Jewish Cabala echoes the same thoughts:

The Jew is the living God, God incarnate: he is the heavenly man. The other men
are earthly, of inferior race. They exist only to serve the Jew. They are the
cattle seed.52

True Christianity understands that the Messiah is God, or at the very least, a
part of God is the Messiah. Consequently, any person or group claiming to be the
Messiah, as the Jewish people do, are in essence also claiming to be God! You
might recall that in his book, The Messianic Idea in Israel, Dr. Klausner wrote:

Thus the whole people Israel in the form of the elect of the nation gradually
became the Messiah of the world, the redeemer of mankind.53

Dr. Klausner later identified who the Jewish people believe the "Redeemer" is:

God alone is the redeemer.54

Consequently, if the "whole people Israel," i.e., the Jews, became the "redeemer
of mankind," and in their thinking the Redeemer is equivalent to God, then they
are also claiming that as Jews they are not only the Messiah, but also God
Himself! 

Let there be no mistake, YHWH is not the God of the Jews. The Jews have instead
tried to make themselves their own god. We know that "in the days of John
Hyrcanus (end of second century B.C.E.) I the Edomites became a section of the
Jewish people,"55 and that "from then on they constituted a part of the Jewish
people."56 We can take comfort from the Prophet Obadiah that God does not intend
to allow the Jews to continue claiming such a position:

The vision of Obadiah. Thus says the Lord YHWH concerning Edom [modern-day
Jewry].I  "Behold, I will make you small among the nations; you are greatly
despised. The arrogance of your heart has deceived you, you who live in the
clefts of the rock, in the loftiness of your dwelling place, who say in your
heart, 'Who will bring me down to earth?' Though you build high like the eagle
[eagle is often representative of God in Scripture, see Ex.19:4], though you set
your nest among the stars, from there I will bring you down" declares YHWH.
(Obadiah 1P4)

CELTO-SAXONS

Sennacherib, King of Assyria, accused the Israelites of saying, "We trust in
YHWH our God" (II Kin. 18:22). "IN GOD WE TRUST" appears on the coins of which
nation?  The Caucasian peoples may not know that YHWH is the personal name of
their God, but when they speak or think of God, whether or not they follow Him,
they are speaking about the Creator God YHWH. Let us hear again from Supreme
Court Justice David J. Brewer who confirmed this in his speech at Harvard
College:

In many State Constitutions we find in the preamble a declaration like this:
"Grateful to Almighty God." In some [states], he who denied the being of God was
disqualified from holding office. It is again and again declared in the
constitution that official oaths shall close with an appeal, "So help me, God."
When upon inauguration, the President-elect each 4 years consecrates himself to
the great responsibilities of Chief Executive of the Republic, his vow of
consecration in the presence of the vast throng filling the Capitol grounds will
end with the solemn words, "So help me, God." In all our courts, witnesses in
like manner vouch for the truthfulness of their testimony. The common
commencement of wills is "In the name of God, Amen."

And further, it is of still more significance that there are no contrary
declarations.I In none of them is Mohammed, or Confucius, or Buddha in any
manner noticed.57

You might recall from the court case of Peoples vs. Ruggles, that Chancellor
Kent rendered an opinion which provided the reason for the above significance:
Nor are we bound, by any expressions in the constitution, as some have strangely
supposed, either not to punish at all, or to punish indiscriminately the like
attacks upon the religion of Mahomet, or of the Grand Lama, and for this plain
reason, that the case assumes that we are a Christian people, and the morality
of the country is deeply ingrafted upon Christianity and not upon the doctrines
or worship of those imposters.58
In Democracy in America, Alexis de Tocqueville related the following which
certainly testified to just how widespread belief in YHWH was in America:

Whilst I was in America, a witness, who happened to be called at the assizes of
the county of Chester (State of New York), declared that he did not believe in
the existence of God, or in the immortality of the soul. The judge refused to
admit his evidence, on the ground that the witness had destroyed beforehand all
the confidence of the Court in what he was about to say.59

The New York "Spectator" on August 23, 1831, relates the fact in the following
terms: P "The Court of Common Pleas of Chester county [New York] a few days
since rejected a witness who declared his disbelief in the existence of God. The
presiding judge remarked that he had not before been aware that there was a man
living who did not believe in the existence of God; that this belief constituted
the sanction of all testimony in a court of justice, and that he knew of no
cause in a Christian country where a witness had been permitted to testify
without such belief." 60

Just how emphatic the founding fathers of America were about YHWH being the only
God is revealed in some of the legislative records of New England:

Amongst these documents we shall notice, as especially characteristic, the code
of laws promulgated by the little State of Connecticut in 1650. The legislators
of Connecticut begin with the penal laws, and I borrow their provisions from the
text of Holy Writ. "Whosoever shall worship any other God than the Lord," says
the preamble of the Code, "shall surely be put to death." 61 

There is no question which God is referred to in the following two charters:

1609 - Second Virginia CharterPPurpose: "to live in fear and true worship of
Almighty God, Christian peace, and civil quietness."  
1610 - New England CharterPAims in settling America: "to increase the knowledge
of the Omnipotent God and the propagation of our Christian faith.62 

"Almighty" and "Omnipotent" are terms used only of YHWH.

Regarding these early pioneers in this new country, the McGuffey's Sixth
Eclectic Reader stated:

They were emphatically a people whose God was the Lord. Their form of government
was I strictly theocratical.63

Not only do early charters and constitutions acknowledge YHWH as the God of this
nation, but current constitutions do as well:

In addition to the nation's united expression of faith in God, each individual
state has separately acknowledged God as Sovereign and as the Author of liberty.
The Legislative Service of the Library of Congress has compiled the provisions
of State constitutions relative to the Supreme Being.64

George Washington's prayer, which we previously quoted in part, began "Almighty
God" and continued with the following words:

Endow with the spirit of wisdom those whom in Thy name we entrust the authority
of government, that there may be peace and justice at homeI. 

Washington's prayer ended with this request:

In the time of prosperity, fill our hearts with thankfulness, and in the day of
trouble, suffer not our trust in Thee to fail. Amen.

To which god was President Washington petitioning that our trust should never
fail? You know as well as I that it was YHWH, the God of the Bible. When
Caucasian Americans put "In God We Trust" on their coins, they were referring to
the God of the Scriptures, not to Buddha, Shiva, Allah, or Confucius. As the
gospel spread throughout Europe, the British Isles, and then on to the North
American Continent, it became natural for the Celto-Saxons to follow and worship
the God of the Christian Bible. Christianity replaced the pagan customs that
Israel had adopted when she was divorced from God and subsequently scattered
throughout the heathen world. As recently as 1959 Herman Wouk had to admit that
the West worshiped the God of Moses:

There is no God in the West to this hour but the God of Moses.65

In July 1991, "our Congress" invited a Black Muslim to offer prayer before a
Congressional session. Scripture outlines this as idolatry in the eyes of God.
There are those who viewed this bold departure from established Christian custom
as proof that we are not a Christian nation. However, this one idolatrous act is
the only instance in over two hundred years when Congress has not opened with
prayer to Almighty God (YHWH) which proves that it was an exception to the rule.
This act emphasizes our history of adherence to our Christian faith and the
unwillingness to consider the worship of imposters. We find recorded in Hebrews:

I"Behold days are coming, says YHWH, when I will effect a New Covenant with the
house of Israel and with the house of JudahI. And I will be their God, and they
shall be My people. And they shall not teach everyone his brother, saying, 'Know
YHWH,' for all shall know Me, from the least to the greatest of them." (Hebrews
8:8P11)

Today, you do not have to teach the Celto-Saxons that the God of the Bible is
their God. They have to be taught out of this natural belief in order to
persuade them to believe in a god of some Eastern religion. Just the opposite is
true with the other races. There may not be many among Celto-Saxondom today who
know YHWH intimately, but "all" begin with a basic understanding that He is God.

ISRAEL IS A PEOPLE WHO WOULD POSSESS 
GOD'S HOLY SPIRIT


"But now listen, O Jacob My servant; and Israel, whom I have chosen: thus says
YHWH who made you and formed you from the womb, who will help you, 'Do not fear,
O Jacob My servant; and you Jeshurun whom I have chosen. For I will pour out
water on the thirsty land and streams on the dry ground; I will pour out My
Spirit on your offspring, and My blessing on your descendants; and they will
spring up among the grassI.'" (Isaiah 44:1P3) 

"And a Redeemer will come to Zion, and to those who turn from transgression in
Jacob," declares YHWH. "And as for me, this is My covenant with them," says
YHWH: "My Spirit which is upon you, and My words which I have put in your mouth,
shall not depart from your mouth, nor from the mouth of  your offspring, nor
from the mouth of your offspring's offspring," says YHWH, "From now and
forever." (Isaiah 59:20,21)

Then He said to me, "Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel.I"
"Therefore prophesy, and say to them, 'Thus says the Lord YHWH.I  And I will put
My Spirit within you, and you will come to life, and I will place you on your
own land. Then you will know that I, YHWH, have spoken and done it," declares
YHWH. (Ezekiel 37:11P14)

 'As for the promise which I made you [Israel] when you came out of Egypt, My
Spirit is abiding in your midst; do not fear!' (Haggai 2:5)

Therefore let all the house of Israel know for certain that God has made Him
both Lord and Christ - this Yhshua whom you crucified. Now when they heard this,
they were pierced to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles,
"Brethren, what shall we do?" And Peter said to them, "Repent, and let each of
you be baptized in the name of Yhshua [the] Christ for the forgiveness of your
sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is for
you and your children [the house of Judah], and for all who are far off  [the
house of Israel], as many as the Lord your God shall call to Himself." (Acts
2:36P39)

WHICH PEOPLE
 HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE HOLY SPIRIT?

The indwelling Holy Spirit is something which is an integral part of salvation
in Yhshua the Christ. 

However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God
dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of [the] Christ he does
not belong to Him. (Romans 8:9)

The indwelling Holy Spirit is given only when we, in faith and repentance, are
baptized (immersed) into Yhshua the Christ for the forgiveness of sins (Acts
2:38). Can there be any doubt which people exhibit the indwelling of God's
Spirit? The same people who have responded to the New Covenant call of salvation
in Yhshua the Christ are those who also have been indwelt with the Holy Spirit.
No one would dare claim this fits the Jews! It is, rather, a description of the
remnant among the Celto-Saxons who have obeyed the Gospel.


Chapter 9
Israel's Scriptural Identity: Spiritual Aspects, Part 2

1.	Pastor I. B. Pranaitis, The Talmud Unmasked - The Secret Rabbinical Teachings
Concerning Christians (St. Petersburg, Russia: Imperial Academy of Sciences
Printing Office, 1892)

2.	"Jesus In Rabbincal Literature," The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia, Vol. 6,
(New York: Universal Jewish Encyclopedia Co., Inc., 1942) 87

3.	"Jesus of Nazareth," The Jewish Encyclopedia, Vol. VII, (New York and London:
Funk and Wagnalls, 1904) 170P172

4.	Chief Rabbi J. H. Hertz, Foreword, The Babylonian Talmud (London: The Soncino
Press, 1935) xxiii

5. 	Pranaitis, "Zohar"

6.	Harry Waton, A Program for the Jew and An Answer to all Anti-Semites (New
York: Committee for the Preservation of the Jews, 1939) 120

7.	Samuel Roth, Jews Must Live (New York: The Golden Hind Press, Inc. 1934) 74

8.	Joseph Klausner, PH.D., Jesus of Nazareth - His Life, Times, and Teaching
(New York: The Macmillan Company, 1953) 325

9.	Klausner, 413 P 414

10.	Bernard Lazare, Antisemitism - Its History and Causes (New York: The
International Library Publishing Co., 1903) 164

11.	Rabbi Joachim Prinz, testimony, New Jersey's Supreme Court, Tudor vs. Board
of Education of Rutherford, 14 N.J. 31 (1953) certiorari denied 348 U.S. 816
(1954), quoted by Leo Pfeffer, Church State and Freedom (Boston: Beacon Press,
1953) 459 
12.	Chief Rabbi Stephen S. Wise, letter, Jennie and Leo Waterman (sister and
brother of Louise Waterman Wise), autumn of 1901,  Stephen S. Wise: Servant of
the People, Selected Letters, Edited by Carl Hermann Voss, (Philadelphia: The
Jewish Publication Society of America, 1969) 19

13. 	Wise, letter, Mrs. Donald MacIntyre, 9 October 1933: 195

14.	Dr. Benjamin H. Freedman, "National Economic Council's Letter No.177,"
quoted in Destiny Magazine (January 1948) 28

15.	Ben Hecht, A Jew in Love (New York: Covici Friede Publishers, 1931) 120P121

16.	Rabbi Meir Kahane, The Jewish Press  (New York) 6 January 1989: 49, quoted
in The Kingdom Messenger, Vol. 2, No. 7 (Grants Pass, OR.) 
Rabbi Kahane was founder of the Jewish Defense League, a militant organization
designed to combat so-called anti-Semitism.
  
17.	"Cabala," quoted by Dr. E. R. Fields, Judaism - The World's Strangest
Religion, p. 8  (Marietta, GA: The Truth at Last)

18. 	"Judaism,"  The Jewish Encyclopedia, Vol. VII,  (New York and London: Funk
and Wagnalls Company, 1904) 363

19.	Elie Wiesel, Legends of our Time  (New York%Chicago%San Francisco: Holt,
Rinehart and Winston, 1968) 100

20.	Alfred M. Lilienthal, The Other Side of the Coin (New York: The Devin-Adair
Company, 1965) 65

21.	Leon Simon, Studies in Jewish Nationalism (London: Longmans, Green and Co.:
1920) 36
  
22.	Wise, letter, Mrs. G.S. Best, 15 December 1938, 231

23.	Moses Hess, Rome and Jerusalem (New York: Philosophical Library, Inc., 1862)
15

24.	Hess, 18
  
25.	For a deeper understanding of the "New World Order" write MISSION TO ISRAEL,
P.O. Box 248, Scottsbluff, NE 69363, and request "The New World Order - Whose
Agenda Is It?" on audio cassette tape. 

26.	Baruch Levy, letter, Karl Marx quoted in La Revue de Paris,  1 June 1928:
574 

27. 	Rabbi Roland B. Gittelsohn, The Meaning of Judaism (New York%Cleveland: The
World Publishing Company, 1970) 50

28.	Gittelsohn, 50P51

29.	Dr. Joseph Klausner, The Messianic Idea in Israel (London: Bradford &
Dickens, 1956) 163
Dr. Klausner was Professor Emeritus of Hebrew Literature and Jewish History in
the Hebrew University, Jerusalem, at the time he wrote this book.

30.	For a more in-depth look at who "the anti-Christ" is write MISSION TO
ISRAEL, P. O. Box 248, Scottsbluff, NE 69363, and request "10 Overlooked
Characteristics for Identifying 'The Anti-Christ'" on audio cassette tape.

31.	Lazare, 165P166

32. 	Protocol 11, Article 4, Sentence 1P2,  Protocols of the Learned Elders of
Zion

33. 	Rabbi Eliezer Berkovits, Judaism in the Post-Christian Era (1966) 80  
 
34.	Emil G. Hirsch,  quoted by  Chief Rabbi Stephen S. Wise in Free Synagogue
Pulpit, Sermons and Addresses, Vol. II, (New York: Bloch Publishing Co., 1910)
73

35.	Samuel Roth, Jews Must Live (New York: The Golden Hind Publishing Co., 1934)
72

36.	"Judaism," The Jewish Encyclopedia,  Vol. VII, (New York and London: Funk
and Wagnalls Company, 1904) 368

37.	Hess, 19

38.	Rabbi Maurice J. Bloom, preface, Rome and Jerusalem (New York: Philosophical
Library, Inc., 1958)

39.	Moses Hess, Kommunistisches Bekenntnis in Fragen und Antworten (Communist
Credo in Questions and Answers) pg. 190, quoted by Richard Wurmbrand in Marx &
Satan  (Westchester, IL: Crossway Books, Good News Publishers, 1986) 91

40.	Harry Waton, A Program for the Jews and An Answer to All Anti-Semites (New
York: Committee for the Preservation of the Jews, 1939) 113

41.	Waton, 114

42.	Waton, 133P134

43.	Waton, 219

44.	Professor F. A. Ossendowski, The Nineteenth Century and After (London:
Constable & Company, Limited, 1926) 30

45.	Lilienthal, 62

46.	Lilienthal, 64

47.	Karl Marx, quoted by Richard Wurmbrand in Marx & Satan  (Westchester, IL:
Crossway Books, Good News Publishers, 1986) 59
48.	Marx, 25

49.	James Yaffe, The American Jews  (New York: Random House, 1968) 161

50.	Yaffe, 161

51.	Jacob H. Schiff, quoted by Chief Rabbi Stephen S. Wise in Free Synagogue
Pulpit, Sermons and Addresses, Vol. II,  (New York: Bloch Publishing Company,
1910) 127

52. 	Jewish Cabala, quoted by Dr. E. R. Fields,  Judaism - The World's Strangest
Religion (The Truth at Last, publishers)  8
   
53.	Dr. Joseph Klausner, The Messianic Idea in Israel (London: Bradford &
Dickens, 1956) 163

54.	Klausner, 522
 
55.	"Edom," Encyclopaedia Judaica, Vol. 6, (Jerusalem Encyclopaedia Judaica:
Macmillan Company, 1971) 378

56.	"Edom (Idumea)," The New Standard Jewish Encyclopedia (Garden City, NY:
Doubleday & Company, 1977) 589

57.	David J. Brewer, Associate Justice U.S. Supreme Court, address, Harvard
University (1905)

58.	Chancellor Kent, "People vs. Ruggles, 8 Johns (N.Y.) 290 (1811)," quoted by
Leo Pfeffer in Church State and Freedom  (Boston: Beacon Press, 1953) 665

59.	Alexis de Tocqueville, Democracy in America, Vol. 1, (New York: The Colonial
Press, 1899) 311

60.	de Tocqueville, Vol. 1, 311

61.	de Tocqueville, Vol. 1, 37

62.	Walter S. Remmie, "This Is A Christian Nation," Kingdom Digest  (Irving,
TX:) July 1981

63.	McGuffey's Sixth Eclectic Reader (New York%Cincinnati%Chicago: American Book
Company, 1879) 225

64.	Pat Broules, et al., Appendix D, "50 Evidences that the U.S.A. is
'Constitutionally Christian!,'" Freedom or Slavery! (Fletcher, NC: New Puritan
Library, 1990) 159
Pages 159P165 contain the pertinent portion of all 50 state constitutions.

65.	Herman Wouk, This is My God: The Jewish Way of Life (Garden City, NY:
Doubleday & Company, Inc., 1959) 181


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