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Article 10269 of alt.revisionism:
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Subject: Zionists fear black hatred
Date: Tue,  5 Apr 94 11:15:31 MDT
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From: Knight_Crusader@nile.com (Knight Crusader)

February 9, 1994,      

 Dear Mr. Reich,     

      I am afraid to walk alone on the campus of Kean College at night.  I spoke
out recently against anti-Semitism and I was quoted in the school paper.  I've
been told to be careful and even though I really am afraid of violence, my anger
-- and my pride in being a Jew -- are outweighing my fear.  I want to tell about
some of the things that took place.
      First of all, I believe that Khalid Abdul Muhammad's speech was
deliberately not well publicized in advance to avoid protests.  I know I only
heard about it an hour before it was scheduled to take place.
      Inside Wilkins Theater, where the speech was given, they were passing out
vicious anti-Semitic and anti-white material.  It was sickening stuff.  Yet, the
Jewish professors who wanted to pass out counter leaflets were told by the
administration that they could only do so on the sidewalk outside the building.
      People who wanted to go in to listen were being intimidated.  The white
people who did get in left after a short while because the things Muhammad was
saying were so disgusting and offensive.
      The group that invited Muhammad -- the Student Government -- was supposed
to put a tape of the speech in the library afterward so anyone who wanted to
listen to it could.  But they didn't do it right away, so for quite a while it
wasn't availab.e
      On top of all this, the head of the university, President Gomez, refused
to do anything about the speech until Dr. Edward Goldberg, Chancellor of Higher
Education for New Jersey, put pressure on her.
     There was very little condemnation at all on campus which really scares me.
Particularly because we've had more than our share of this kind of thin. 
Leonard Jeffries from City College has also spoken on our campus.
     I've talked a lot with other students and professors and everybody is
frightened by the fact that this kind of anti-Semitic garbage is so visible on
our campus.  We want to do something to change this situation fast before
something dangerous happens.  

      

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Article 10270 of alt.revisionism:
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Subject: Zionists Outraged!!!
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From: Knight_Crusader@nile.com (Knight Crusader)

This comes from a letter I recently recieved from the "American Zionist
Movement".  It expresses the deep concern of American Jewish Zionists of the
rising black awareness of the Jewish nature.

    It starts off with this quote:  "The Jews, the so-called Jews, what they
have actually done, brothers and sisters, is used us as cannon fodder."  And it
goes on... (emphasis in letter)

 Dear Friend,
       I wont mince words.  I'm going to get right to the point. 
       We are facing a crisis of epidemic proportions!
       A crisis of hatred, mistrust, fear and often outright violence.  A crisis
of escalating anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism.
       The ugly face of this cancer can be seen in the words above which came
from a speech given by Khalid Abdul Muhammad (a black man) on Nov. 29, 1993 at
Kean College in Union, New Jersey.  Muhammad was invited as the official
spokesman of the Nation of Islam.  He ranked just below Louis Farrakhan in the
organization's hierarchy.  
      Louis Farrakhan dismissed Muhammad from his position with the Nation of
Islam.  
      But, while he objected to Muhammad's tone, Farrakhan defended Muhammad's
"truth".
      Farrakhan accused Jews of active participation in the slave trade, charged
that three-quarters of all slavehoders in the south were Jews, and accused
Jewish slave-owners of cutting off the hands of slaves seeking freedom.
     Here is the kind of "truth" spoken by Khalid Abdul Muhammad, and defended
by Louis Farrakhan in his bizarre, and frightening, press conference on February
3:
    
     "...You're not the true Jew.  You are Johnny-come-lately Jews who just
crawled out of the caves and hills of Europe just over 4,000 years ago...you're
a European strain of people who crawled around on all fours...eating each
other."
     "Who are the slumlords in the black community?  The so-called Jew..."
     "They're the bloodsuckers of the black nation and the black community."

     ...with your help we will help them fight back against the kind of hatred
and rage represented by Louis Farrakhan, by Professor Leonard Jeffries at City
College, by Khalid Abdul Muhammad, and by other hatemongers - too many others -
who speak at, or teach at, many other campuses.
     Pleasue make the most generous donation you possibly can to the American
Zionist Movement's fight against bigory on campus.  (if anyone wants the
address, leave me mail)
     I look forward to hearing from you very soon.

    Most sincerely,
  
        Seymour D. Reich, President.

    In the next message we will post a letter enclosed with this fund-raising
appeal from a jewish student who witnessed Khalid Abdul Muhammad's speech.

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Article 10378 of alt.revisionism:
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Subject: Why Don't You Believe What We Tell You?
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WHY DON'T YOU BELIEVE WHAT WE TELL YOU?

   QUOTATIONS FROM WELL KNOWN JEWS

    "The great ideal of Judaism is that the whole world shall be imbued with
Jewish teachings, and that in a Universal Brotherhood of nations -- a greater
Judaism in fact -- all the Separate races and religions shall disappear."  -The
Jewish World, Feb 9, 1883

    "We, the Jews, are a people - one people.  When we sink, we become
revolutionary proletariat, the subordinate officers of a revolutionary party;
when we rise, there arises also our terrible power of the purse."  -Theodor
Herzl, 'The Jewish State', 1896

    "With gold we buy the most rebellious consciences, can subsidized all state
loans, and thereafter hold the states at our mercy.  Already the principal
banks, the exchanges of the entire world, the credits of all the governments,
are in our hands."  -Rabbi Reichorn

    "I am not an American Citizen of Jewish faith.  I am a Jew.  I have been an
American for sixty-three years, but I have been a Jew for 4000 years."  -Rabbi
Stephen S. Wise.

    "We are living in a highly organized state of socialism.  The state is all;
the individual is of importance only as he contributes to the welfare of the
state.  His property is only his as the state does not need it.  He must hold
his life and his possessions at the call of the state."  -Bernard M. Baruch 
'The Knickerbocker Press,'  Albany, N.Y., Aug. 8, 1918

    "The Jews in Russia, in their total mass, were responsible for the
Revolution."  -Angelo S. Rappaport, 'The Pioneers of the Russian Revolution', P.
250, Stanely, Paul and Co., London 1918

    "There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so many
Jews are Bolshevists.  The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with many of the
highest ideals of Judaism."  -'Jewish Chronicle', London, April 4, 1919

    "The Bolshevist revolution in Russian was the work of Jewish brains, of
Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a new order
in the world.  What was performed in so excellent a way in Russia, thanks to
Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction and by Jewish planning,
shall also, through the same Jewish mental and physical forces, become a reality
all over the world."  -'The American Hebrew', Sept 10, 1920

    "Bolshevism is a religion and a faith.  How could those half-converted
believers dream to vanquish the 'Truthful' and the 'Faithful' of their own
creed, those holy crusaders, who had gathered around the Red standard of the
prophet Karl Marx, and who fought under the daring guidance of those experienced
officers of all later-day revolutions - the Jews?"  -Dr. Oscar Levy, Preface
'The World Significance of the Russian Revolution' by George Pitt-Rivers 1920

    "We Jews, we, the destroyers, will remain destroyers forever.  Nothing that
you will do will meet our needs and demands.  We will forever destroy because we
need a world of our own."  -Maurice Samuels, 'You Gentiles', p. 155, Harcourt,
Brace. 1924

    "We Jews, who have posed as Saviours of the World, we are today nothing else
but the world's seducers, its destroyers, its incendiaries, its executioners." 
-Oscar Levy

    "It is often said that Judaism is the driving force of communism; but this
does not prove anything beyond that which is expected and only natural...   It
is surprising that Judaism should become the fermenting and destructive element
in countries which have always despised and persecuted it?  That peculiar
faculty for intrigue, stratagem, conspiracies, and that patient, almost uncanny
waiting for the hour of never-failing revenge, are all characteristics of the
chosen people."  -Prof. F.A. Ossendowski, 'The Nineteenth Century and After',
(London), p. 29, Jan 1926

    "Let us recognize that we Jews are a distinct nationality of which every
Jew, whatever his country, his station, or shade of belief, is necessarily a
member.  Organize, organize, until every Jew must stand up and be counted -
counted with us, or prove himself wittingly or unwittingly, of the few who are
against their own people."  -Louis Be Brandeis

    "The two Internationales of Finance and Revolution work with ardour, they
are the two fronts of the Jewish Internationale.  There is a Jewish conspiracy
against all nations."  -Rene Groos, 'Le Nouveau Mercure, Paris, May, 1927

    "You have not begun to appreiciate the depth of our guilty.  We are
intruders.  We are subverters.  We have taken your natural world, your ideals,
your destiny, and played havoc with them.  We have been at the bottom of not
merely the latest great war, but of every other major revolution in your
history.  We have brought discord and confusion and frustration into your
personal and public life.  We are still doing it.  No one can tell how long we
shall go on doing it.  Who knows what great and glorious destiny might have been
yours if we had left you alone."  -Marcus Eli Ravage, 'Century Magazine', Feb,
1928

    "The Jewish people as a whole will be its own Messiah.  It will attain world
dominion by the dissolution of other races, by the abolition of frontiers, the
annihilation of monarchy, and by the establishment of a world republic in which
the Jews will everywhere exercise the priviledge of citizenship.  In this new
world order the children of Israel will furnish all the leaders without
encountering opposition.  The Governments of the different peoples forming the
world republic will fall without difficulty into the hands of the Jews.  It will
then be possible for the Jewish rulers to abolish private property, and
everywhere to make use of the resources of the state.  Thus will the promise of
the Talmud be fulfilled, in which is said that when the Messianic time is come,
the Jews will have all the property of the whole world in their hands."  -Baruch
Levy, Letter to Karl Marx, 'La Revue  de Paris', p. 574, June 1, 1928

    "Only recently our race has give the world a new prophet, but he has two
faces and bears two names; on the one side, his name is Rothschild, leader of
all capitalists, and on the other, Karl Marx, the apostle of those who want to
destroy the other."  -Blumenthal, 'Judisk Tidskrift', No. 57

    "Marxism is the modern form of Jewish prophecy."  -Reinhold Niebur, Speech
before the Jewish Institution of Religion, New York, Oct. 3, 1934
 
    "How do you account for the fact that so many young Jews may be found in the
radical movements of all the lands?"  -Michael Gold, 'New Masses', p. 15, May 7,
1935

    "Some call it Marxism - I call it Judaism."  -Rabbi Stephen S. Wise, 'The
American Bulletin', May 15, 1935

    "Marxism, you say, is the bitterest opponent of capitalism, which is sacred
to us.  For the simple reason that they are opposite poles, they deliver over to
us the two poles of the earth and permit us to be its axis.  These two
opposites, Bolshevism and ourselves, find ourselves identified in the
Internationale.  And these two opposites, the doctrine of the two poles of
society, meet in their unity of purpose, the renewal of the world from above by
the control of wealth, and from below by revolution."  -Quotation from a Jewish
banker by the Comte de Saint-Aulaire in 'Geneve contre la Paix, Libraire Plan,
Paris, 1936

    "IF the tide of history does not turn Communist Internationalism, then the
Jewish race is doomed."  -George marlen 'Stalin, Trosky, or Lenin', p. 414, New
York 1937

    "The present program of palliative relief must give way to a program of
fundamental reconstruction.  American democracy must be socialized by subjecting
industrial production and distribution to the will of the People's Congress. 
The first step is to abolish the federal veto and to enlarge the express powers
of the national government through immediate constitutional amendment.  A
gradual march is the direction of socialization will follow."  -Rabbi Victor
Eppstein, 'Opinion', April, 1937

    "It is not an accident that Judaism gave birth to Marxism, and it is not an
accident that the Jews readily took up Marxism.  All that is in perfect accord
with the progress of Judaism and the Jews."  -Harry Waton, 'A Program for the
Jews and an Answer to All Anti-Semites', p. 148, 1939

    "We must realize that our party's most powerful weapon is racial tension. 
By propounding into the consciousness of the dark races that for centuries they
have been oppressed by the whites, we can mold them to the program of the
Communist Party.  In America we will aim for subtle victory.  While inflaming
the Negro minority against the whites, we will endeavor to install in the whites
a guilt complex for their exploitation of the Negros.  We will aid the Negroes
to rise to prominence in every walk of life, in the professions and in the world
of sports and entertainment.  With this prestige, the Negro will be able to
intermarry with the whites and begin a process which will deliver America to our
cause."  -Israel Cohen 'A Racial Program for the Twentieth Century,' 1912,
Congressional Record, p8557, 1957

    "We are one people despite the ostensible rifts, cracks, and differences
between the American and Soviet democracies.  We are one people and it is not in
our interests that the West should liberate the East, for in doing this and in
liberating the enslaved nations, the West would inevitably deprive Jewry of the
Eastern half of its world power."  -Chaim Weizmann, 'World conquerors', p. 227,
by Louis Marschalko, Joseph Sueli publishers, London, 
1958

    "The Jews might have had Uganda, Madagascar, and other places for the
establishement of a Jewish Fatherland, but they wanted absolutely nothing except
Palestine:  Not because the Dead Sea water by evaporation can produce five
trillion dollars of metalloids and powdered metals; not because the sub-soil of
Palestine contains twenty times more petroleum than all the combined reserves of
the two Americas' but because Palestine is the crossroads of Europe, Asia, and
Africa, because Palestine constitutes the veritable center of world political
power, the strategic center for world control."  -Nahum Goldman, President,
World Jewish Congress

    "Our Fathers reached the frontiers which were recognized in the Palestine
Partition Plan.  our generation reached the frontiers of 1949.  Now the Six-day
generation has managed to reach Suez, Jordan, and the Golan Heights.  This is
not the end.  After the present cease-fire lines there will be new ones.  They
will extend beyond Jordan; perhaps to Lebonon and perhaps to central Syria as
well."  -General Moshe Dayan

    "I know I don't have to say this, but in bringing everybody under the
Zionist banner we never forget that our goals are the safety and security of the
state of Israel foremost.
    Our goal will be realized in Yiddishkeit, in a Jewish life being lived
everyplace in the world; and our goals will have to be realized, not merely by
what we impel others to do.  And here in this country it means frequently
working through the umbrella of the President's Conference (of Jewish
organizations), or it might be working in unison with other groups that feel as
we do.  But that, too, is part of what we think Zionism means and what our
challenge is."  -Rabbi Israel Miller, 'The American Jewish Examiner', P. 14,
March 5, 1970

    "The world Zionist movement is big business.  In the first two decades after
Israel's precarious birth in 1948, it channeled an estimated four billion
dollars in donations into the country.  Following the 1967 Arab-Israli war, the
Zionists raised another $730 million in just two years.  This year, 1970, the
movement is seeking five hundred million dollars.  Gottlieb Hammar, chief
Zionist money raiser, said, 'When the blood flows, the money flows.'"  -Lawrence
Mosher, 'National Observer', May 18, 1970

    "The Jew is not satisfied with de-Christianizing, he Judaizes, he destroys
Catholic and Protestant faith, he provokes indifference, but he imposes his
ideas of the world, of morals, and of life upon those whose faith he ruins; he
works at his age-old task, the annihilation of the religion of Christ." 
-Bernard Lazare, 'L'Antisemitisme', p. 350

    "I am devoting my lecture in this seminar to a discussion of the possibility
that we are now entering a Jewish Century, a time when the spirit of the
community, the non-ideological blend of the emotional and rational and the
resistance to categories and forms will emerge through the forces of
anti-nationalism to provide us with a new kind of society.  I call this process
the Judaizaiton of Christianity because Christianity will be the vehicle through
which this society becomes Jewish."  -Rabbi Martin Siegel, 'New York Magazine',
p. 32, Jan. 18, 1972

    "The image of the world in 1987 as traced in my imagination - the increasing
influence of the farmers and workers, and the rising political influence of men
of science, may transform the United 
States into a welfare state with a planned economy.  Western and Eastern Europe
will become a federation of autonomous states having a socialist and democratic
regime.  With the exception of the USSR as a federated Eurasian state, all other
continents will become united in a world alliance, at whose disposal will be an
international police force.  All armies will be abolished, and there will be no
more wars.  In Jerusalem, the United Nations (a truly United Nations) will build
a shrine of the Prophets to serve the federated union of all continents; this
will be the seat of the Supreme Court of Mankind, to settle all controversies
among the federated continents."  -David Ben Gurion

    "I believe that the active Jews of today have a tendency to think that the
Christians have organized and step up and run the world of injustice,
unfairness, cruelty, misery.  I am not taking any part in this, but I have heard
it expressed, and I believe they feel that way.  Jews have lived for the past
2000 years and developed in a Christian world.  They are a part of that
Christian world even when they suffer from it or be in opposition with it, and
they cannot dissociate themselves from this Christian world and from what it has
done.  And I think that the Jews are bumptious enough to think that perhaps some
form of Jewish solution to THE problem for the world could be found which would
be better, which would be an improvement.  It is up to them to find a Jewish
answer to THE problem of the world, the problems of today."  -Baron Guy de
Rothschild, NBC-TV 'The Remnant', Aug. 18,1974

    "Federation plays a major role in Jewish life throughout the world.  There
is a federation in every community of the world where there is a substantial
number of Jews.  Today there is a central movement that is capable of mustering
all of its planning, financial and political resources within twenty-four hours,
geared to handling any particular issue.  Proportionately, we have more power
than any other comparable group, far beyond our numbers.  The reason is that we
are probably the most well organized minority in the world."  -Nat Rosenburg,
Denver Allied Jewish Federation, 'International Jewish News', Jan. 30, 1976

"Yet I have a clever touch 
   And pander to your vices,
While lookin on in exultation.
   And I play my game,
With the exuberance of experience, 
   The strange and terribly subtle
Final aims of my Asiatic blood
   That remain a mystery to you."
      -Paul Meyer, 'Aktion',  Jan, 1913


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Article 10428 of alt.revisionism:
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Black Nazis on the March  

    Washington had a little Nuremberg rally recently.  In an event chillingly
evocative of the sort the Nazis used to put on, the chant "The Jews, the Jews,"
was shouted by an audience of about 1,000 people, at least half of them
students, at Howard University.
     Lest you think they were responding to the speaker of the evening, Khalid
Abdul Muhammad - a man so mad that even Louis Farrakhan pretended shock - the
facts are otherwise.  They were led in responsive anti-semitism by a law student
named Malik Zulu Shabazz, a man we can only hope was born too late for his real
calling:  A pogrom.
    "Who caught and killed Nat Turner?"  He shouted to the crowd.
    "Jews," most of the audience shouts back.
    "Who controls the Federal Reserve?"
    "Jews."
    "YouUre not Afraid to say it, are you?"
    "Jews, Jews."
    "Who controls the media?"
    "Jews."
    "Who has our entertainers, our athletes, in a vise grip?"
    "Jews."
    "Am I lying?"
    "No," they yelled.
    This account, taken from the notes of a Washington Post reporter, was hardly
an isolated anti-Semitic outburst.  Other speakers made similar references.
    Mark Thompson, a leader in the effort to gain statehood for the District of
Columbia, suggested that African-Americans junk "We Shall Overcome" and replace
it with a new anthem:  "We shall not sell out to the Jews."
    Yet another speaker, Henry Jackson-Bey, said Muhammad had exposed "The
Euro-Zionist supremacist conspiracy."
    Howard University, federally funded and sometimes called the Harvard of the
black colleges, clearly has itself a problem.  The Washington Post estimated
that two-thirds of the audience that night was composed of students.  HowardUs
dean for student life, Raymond Archer, says fewer than half.  I say, who cares? 
The fact remains that several hundred students acted like extras in a Leni
Reifenstahl movie.

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Article 10447 of alt.revisionism:
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The Truth Behind Your Roots   (author unknown)

     Space does not allow to record but a tiny bit of the Jewish slave trade
story so let's take on cruel Jew trader as an example - Aaron Lopez.  That one
Jew between 1726 and 1774 controlled 50 per cent of the entire slave trade. 
That fact can be proven by bills of lading, port clearances, and receipts still
available.  Consider just one of his slave ships, the ABIGAIL.  That ship left
Newport bound for Africa with 9000 gallons of rum, iron, worthless ornaments,
and chains.  In Africa they contacted a Jewish slave trader and exchanged the
rum, iron, and trinkets for slaves.  Each slave cost Aaron between 100 and 200
gallons of rum, or 100 pounds of powder, or $18 to $20 in cash.  The price
depended upon the age and condition of the captured Negro.  In America they sold
the black man for an average of $2000.  (The rum, of course, was diluted 50-50
with water by the Jews before it was traded for slaves.)
     The slaves were then chained together, two by two, like animals, branded
with a hot iron, and driven aboard the ships for transfer to the new world.  The
African Jewish traders bought their human cargoes from African tribal chiefs. 
No Jew or white man ever went into the interior of Africa to capture slaves. 
They bought them all from other Negroes.
     Any slave who tried to escape had both his legs cut off as an example to
the others.  The ships were crammed with blacks like sardines in a can.  Little
food or water, no sanitation, no beds.  They lived for 2-3 months in human
filth.  Only one out of every ten ever lived to see America, but even then the
Jews prospered greatly and built up tremendous fortunes.  When Aaron Lopez died
he left one of the greatest fortunes.  Another top Jew slaver, who did almost as
well was the Jewish father-in-law of Aaron Lopez, one Jacob Rod Rivera.
     The city of Philadelphia had anti-slavery laws but five wealthy Jews, rich
from the slaver trade, were able to get the slave laws repealed.  They were:
Sandiford; Lay; Woolman; Soloman; and Benezet.  By the year 1661 the Jews had
all colonial slave laws thrown out.  The Jews formed a slave trade society
called ASIENTO, begun by Eyrger and Sayller.  They had offices in America,
Holland, and England and were closely tied in with the Rothschilds.
     Between 1661 and 1774 approximately 110 million blacks were purchased in
Africa but only about 11 million reached the New World alive.  The Jews of
Newport alone owned some 300 slave ships.  One Jew Rabbi, Morris A. Gutstein,
wrote a book about the Newport Jews and tried to deny the facts, but absolute
evidence still available gives the lie to his efforts.
     Much of the proof can be found in the Carnegie Institute in Wash., D.C. and
in the Carnegie Technical Institute in Pittsburgh, Penn.  One Excellent
reference is the book, "Documents Illustrative of the History of the Slave Trade
in America", by Donnan.
     While the Jews owned the slave ships only about 15 per cent of the ship
captains were Jews.  They always hire others to take the risks and do the dirty
work.  If the Jews haven't by this time destroyed the evidence you may read
these letters at the Carnegie Institute:  Between June 22, 1764 and Feb. 9,
1767, letters to Aaron Lopez from Captain Stead, and letters from Aaron Lopez to
captains, Stead, Briggs, Abraham All, and others.
     In one letter by Capt. Stead to Aaron, Nov. 27, 1774, the captain, who was
quite proud of his recent rip, wrote as follows, "I wish to advise you that your
ship ANN docked here night before last with 112 slaves, consisting of 35 men, 16
large youths, 21 small boys, 29 women, 2 grown girls, 9 small girls, and I
assure you that this is such a one, Rum cargo in exchange for slaves, which I
have not yet encountered.  Among the entire group there may be five to which one
could take exception."
     As one brother said, My American Negro friends, it is our responsibility to
write to the Federal Communications Commission to demand time on National
Television to show the truth behind slavery.
     My America friends, it is wrong for any race to enslave another, as the
Jews are trying thru Communism and Liberalism to dupe us now, to enslave us
again.  The slavery of Commie-liberalism today is backed by the Jews, and is not
done by mistaken intentions. 
     Negro Americans have made many mistakes in the past while being duped by
our so-called friend, the Jew.  Let's not have the Jew deceive us into slavery
again, let's correct our mistakes of the past not striking out blindly at White
America who will be equally enslaved, but at the root of all this evil.  There
is only one kind of life under Jewish Commie-liberalism, regardless of color
that life is eternal slavery.
     We must stand united regardless of race against this common enemy, IF ANY
RACE IS TO SURVIVE.

    Brought to you by Rick Savage (aka Knight Crusader)

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Article 10448 of alt.revisionism:
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From: Knight_Crusader@nile.com (Knight Crusader)

   Six Million?  Why should people be insulted because they don't believe that
six million Jews were killed during World War II?  This figure was cited by the
International Military Tribunal at Nuremberg in 1945-1946.  Tet if that is so,
then why do the most prominent Holocaust historians disagree with that figure?  
    Professor Raul Hilberg, author of the standard reference work, The
Destruction of the European Jews, does not accept that six million Jews died. 
He puts the total of deaths (by all causes) at 5.1 million.  Gerald Reitlinger,
author of The Final Solution, likewise did not accept the six million figure. 
He estimated the figure of Jewish wartime dead might be as high as 4.6 million,
but admitted that this was conjecture due to a lack of reliable information.  
    The Polish government's Auschwitz State Museum put in a memorial plaque at
Auschwitz that read:  "Four Million People Suffered and Died Here at the Hands
of the Nazi Murderers Between the Years 1940 and 1945."  Pope John Paul II even
stood before this memorial and blessed the four million victims.
    Yet today, the Polish government's Auschwitz State Museum, along with
Israel's Yad Vashem Holocaust center, conceded that the four million figure was
a gross exaggeration, and references to it were accordingly removed fromt he
Auschwitz monument.  Israeli and Polish officials announced a tentative revised
toll of 1.1 million Auschwitz dead.  In 1993, French Holocaust researcher
Jean-Claude Pressac, in a much discussed book about Auschwitz, estimated that
altogether about 775,000 died there during the war.  
    Professor Mayer acknowledges that the question of how many really died in
Auschwitz remains open.  In Why Did the Heavens Not Darken?  he wrote (p. 366):
    "...Many questions remain open...All in all, how many bodies were cremated
in Auschwitz?  How many died there all told?  What was the national, religious,
and ethnic breakdown in this commonwealth of victims?  How many of them were
condemned to die a 'natural' death and how many were deliberately slaughtered? 
And what was the proportion of Jews among those murdered in cold blood among
these gassed?  We have simply no answers to these questions at this time."

     What are the implications of this?   First of all, all this revision is
from Holocaust historians, not revisionists.  As they find the claim of 6
million an impossibility to support they were forced to revise the number.  This
discredits the Nuremburg trial on this issue and implies that passion rather
than fact ruled the day.  
     If the Nuremburg Tribunal were a little over-zealous on the numbers of
dead, what else could they have exagerated?  Do you see how this opens up the
hole issue to serious doubt and criticism?  Could they have exagerated with
extremes stories of how these people died? 
Where did the 6 million come from?  Did you know the papers of the day were
reporting upwards of 11-20 million Jews killed by the Nazi's?  Could war
hysteria, pumped up with anti-german hate propaganda have anything to do with
these outrageous zealous exagerations?  
     So the issue of 6 million is important because when it is found impossible
to support, we discover that passion and not fact ruled the day of these
"war-crimes trials" and that leaves the rest of the atrocity propaganda open to
serious hard questioning.   

     Rick Savage (aka Knight Crusader)

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Article 10483 of alt.revisionism:
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From: Knight_Crusader@nile.com (Knight Crusader)

Eric Berlin:  I don't even know why I am bothering to ask, but do you 
have sources for ANY of this info?  I noticed in one of your other posts 
you attribute a WHOLE lot of terrible things to Jews based solely on 
Author Unknown.  Does it not matter to you that you have no idea 
where your own information comes from?

    Sure it matters.  

Here is the revised article, "6 Million?"  Part of which was referenced from an
essay originally distributed in 1992 by the "Canadian Free Speech League" (PO
Box 40143, Victoria, B.C. V8W 3N3)

   Six Million?  Why should people be insulted because they don't believe that
six million Jews were killed during World War II?  This figure was cited by the
International Military Tribunal at Nuremberg in 1945-1946.  Yet if that is so,
then why do the most prominent Holocaust historians disagree with that figure?  
    Professor Raul Hilberg, author of the standard reference work, 'The
Destruction of the European Jews', does not accept that six million Jews died. 
He puts the total of deaths (by all causes) at 5.1 million.  Gerald Reitlinger,
author of 'The Final Solution', likewise did not accept the six million figure. 
He estimated the figure of Jewish wartime dead might be as high as 4.6 million,
but admitted that this was conjecture due to a lack of reliable information.  
    The Polish government's Auschwitz State Museum put in a memorial plaque at
Auschwitz that read:  "Four Million People Suffered and Died Here at the Hands
of the Nazi Murderers Between the Years 1940 and 1945."  Pope John Paul II even
stood before this memorial and blessed the four million victims.
    Yet today, the Polish government's Auschwitz State Museum, along with
Israel's Yad Vashem Holocaust center, conceded that the four million figure was
a gross exaggeration, and references to it were accordingly removed from the
Auschwitz monument.  Israeli and Polish officials announced a tentative revised
toll of 1.1 million Auschwitz dead. (1)  In 1993, French Holocaust researcher
Jean-Claude Pressac, in a much discussed book about Auschwitz, estimated that
altogether about 775,000 died there during the war.  
    Professor Mayer acknowledges that the question of how many really died in
Auschwitz remains open.  In 'Why Did the Heavens Not Darken?'  he wrote (p.
366):
    "...Many questions remain open...All in all, how many bodies were cremated
in Auschwitz?  How many died there all told?  What was the national, religious,
and ethnic breakdown in this commonwealth of victims?  How many of them were
condemned to die a 'natural' death and how many were deliberately slaughtered? 
And what was the proportion of Jews among those murdered in cold blood among
these gassed?  We have simply no answers to these questions at this time."

Notes:
1) Y. Bauer, "Fighting the Distortions," Jerusalem Post (Israel), Sept 22, 1989;
"Auschwitz Deaths Reduced to a Million," Daily Telegraph (London), July 17,
1990; "Poland Reduces Auschwitz Death Toll Estimate to 1 Million," The
Washington Times, July 17, 1990.


     What are the implications of this?   First of all, all this revision is
from Holocaust historians, not revisionists.  As they find the claim of 6
million an impossibility to support they were forced to revise the number.  This
discredits the Nuremburg trial on this issue and implies that passion rather
than fact ruled the day.  
     If the Nuremburg Tribunal were a little over-zealous on the numbers of
dead, what else could they have exagerated?  Do you see how this opens up the
hole issue to serious doubt and criticism?  Could they have exagerated with
extremes stories of how these people died? 
Where did the 6 million come from?  Did you know the papers of the day were
reporting upwards of 11-20 million Jews killed by the Nazi's?  Could war
hysteria, pumped up with anti-german hate propaganda have anything to do with
these outrageous zealous exagerations?  
     So the issue of 6 million is important because when it is found impossible
to support, we discover that passion and not fact ruled the day of these
"war-crimes trials" and that leaves the rest of the atrocity propaganda open to
serious hard questioning.   

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                  * administration of The Nile BBS. *

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Article 10484 of alt.revisionism:
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From: Knight_Crusader@nile.com (Knight Crusader)

We continually hear the wailing and moaning over the alleged Jewish Holocaust at
the hands of National Socialist Germany.  But where is their bitter tear for
these "holocausts"?

THE SOVIET-BOLSHEVIK HOLOCAUST OF CHRISTIANS:

RUSSIAN KULAK FARMERS (1928-1930) 15 million exterminated.
UKRANIAN FARMERS (1930-1933) 7 Million exterminated.
RUSSIAN POLITICAL PRISONERS (1919-1949) 12 million exterminated.
   Total peoples murdered by Lenin and Stalin. 34 million. (a conservative
estimate)
CAMBODIAN extermination 1975 2.5 million.
ARMENIAN extermination by the Turks, 1915, 1.5 million.
And let us not forget the 11 million Germans who perished during and after WW
II. 

There is NO innocent party during wartime.<<

     But when you bring this to the scoffer's attention, he responds with a "so
what" attitude.  They will usually acknowledge these other attrocities and admit
they were terrible, but will return with the retort:  "So what?  What's your
point?"
     I don't know what the point is.  How about equal time, for one.  Let's hear
the Jews pick up the wail and outrage over the above mentioned holocausts, that
would be a good start.  Do we see endless streams of books, movies, made-for-TV
documentaries and compulsarary education about the above mentioned holocausts
that were even more tragic and horrific than anything the Jew has suffered? 
There is a very big POINT in that alone.  It just takes someone honest enough to
acknowledge it.
     Another point, why don't we learn a good old healthy Christian act of
forgive and forget?   Can't you just hear the reaction to this?  "Oh, no...we
can't have that.  We will NEVER FORGIVE and NEVER FORGET!!!   We have to
continually bemoan our insignificant little persecution compared to the many
other atrocities of history because they far outweigh what happened to the
stupid goyim.  After all it is alright to kill the goyim, they are just dumb
cattle after all.  That is what my Talmud says and I sure do believe it."
     Don't you get it?  NOBODY cares about the "holocaust" of the Jews.  The
only reason why some make a big show of sympathy is because of FEAR!  They don't
like being called names.  They don't like being insulted and made to feel
unearned guilt for what they had nothing to do with personally..  They don't
like being hounded for the rest of their lives and live in constant fear of
Jewish REVENGE!!  It is not that hard to see or figure out.  So the easy thing
is just go along with it and humor the Jews.  Except the Jews better hope they
never lose their influence, because they are sowing deep seeds of resentment
that will bloom again into what they fear the most.
     The Jews are nothing more than a walking self-fulling prophecy!  Their
biggest faith is in their own persecution.  They mediate on it, they never
forget it.  It becomes so engrained and entrenched into their cultural soul that
they never escape it.  They go on forever in an endless persecution because they
can't forgive and forget!  They will forever use their own persecution for their
own furtherance in the world because it is the only thing they know, because
they can't forgive and forget!
     We don't hear about the above holocausts where more people died, and under
worse atrocities, because Christians got up off the ground from where they were
beaten down, forgave, forgat and rebuilt their lives.  They moved on!  They
dusted themselves off and saw no profit in holding an eternal grudge, because
they knew how to forgive and forget.  They realized there were more important
things in life to strive for than mere survival!  They wanted to EXCEL!  They
wanted to push beyond the limits and were challenged by the new hardships.  They
worked harder to overcome their oppressions and hard times to rise again out of
the ashes like the proverbial phoenix!  
     Why do you think over 50% of the Jews are leaving Judaism?  Do you think
maybe they are tired of having to live in a continual state of paranoia and hate
of everything that might rise up and persecute them again?  There is an easy way
to escape, just leave the hate, paranioa and fear behind by forgiving and
forgetting.  If they would only make peace and leave their old ways behind that
are so offensive to others they would escape their eternal persecution.  Those
who left Judaism learned the secret of surviving outside the need to threaten
and intimidate their neighbors into growing to hate them...it is simple:  start
being human and love their neighbors as themselves.  
     I celebrate and praise God for every Jew who leaves Judaism/Zionism with
all it's unforgiveness, resentment and hatred.  They are the lucky ones who have
learned the secret of escaping their eternal persecution....love.  Love casts
out fear.  Love is kind.  Love forgives and forgets!  Love heals all wounds. 
Love overcomes all.  
     That is the point.

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>learned the secret of escaping their eternal persecution....love.  Love casts
>out fear.  Love is kind.  Love forgives and forgets!  Love heals all wounds. 
>Love overcomes all.  

Gee, I sure wish Mr. Knight Crusader could love me (I'm so lonely).
His heart is filled with words of love!
But he seems to hate me just because I'm Jewish.  If he
only new what a nice person I really am.  How can I just
get him to give me a chance?

Wait, I know how to get him to love me!!! Just look at what he
himself says about love! Maybe, just maybe, if I go out and
kill all his grandparents, a few of his aunts and uncles, and
most of his relatives that were alive during WWII (just as
happened to my family), then he would have to forgive me!!

Oh how happy we both could be, the two of us loving each other like
brothers, healing each others wounds, casting out fear,
being kind to each other: forgiving and forgetting.

But I know it's all a pipe dream [sigh].  I could never harm
his family.  I've never met any of them, and chances are that most
of them are probably nice people.  My rabbi taught me that to
kill a single person is to destroy a whole universe, that to
murder is one of the worst possible sins.

I guess I'll just have to live knowing that Mr. Knight Crusader
hates me just for being Jewish.  I feel so bad for him though,
all that love in his heart, and yet he's being eaten away
by this awful hatred of me, a person he's never met.  It
must be awful to live like that: wanting nothing more than
to love, but being filled with an obsessive hatred.
I wish I could get him to love me.

-Julian


Article 10594 of alt.revisionism:
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From: Knight_Crusader@nile.com (Knight Crusader)

Germany - 5000 Casualties a Day

    Germany is in the throes of a crime wave - a massive crime wave.  The figure
repeated time and again by natives and vistors is that ONE IN TEN Germans became
a victim last year of either murder, rape, robbery, or assualt.  Germans tell me
that MOST of the crime is committed by alien immigrants.  They are identified as
Turks and North African moslems.
    The media will not put a figure on the number of victims but, instead, they
tell the Germans that while things might be a trifle bad - the immigrants have
it worse - that half the crime they commit - they commit against themselves. 
Somehow, immigrants becoming victims of immigrant-crime are supposed to make the
Germans fell guilty.  They are blamed for having a country where people can be
assaulted.  While made to fell guilty, they are also made to feel grateful that
while things are bad - they could be much worse if the entire weight of
immigrant crime were directed exclusively against them.
    Take a hand calculator and you will quickly get an idea of what "one person
in ten is a victim" really means.
    There are about 80,000,000 Germans in re-united Germany.  The one in ten who
are victimized represent 10%.  Ten percent of 80,000,000 generates 8,000,000
victims.  That's a lot of victims - especially when compared with pre-war
Germany which had almost no crime.  There are 7 million immigrants - mostly
Turks and north African muslims, many of whom are Black.  These, comibned with
other races already enscorned in Germany, consitute perhaps as many as 10
million.  Perhaps more.
    If only half the crime is committed by them - instead of MOST as is charged
- they are responsible for committing 4 million crimes.  And, if half of the 4
million is directed against their own people (if the media can be believed),
this would make them responsible for the other 2 million crimes committed
against Germans (and the bleeding-heart of the last article is worried about
1,483 attacks by alleged 'neo-Nazi gangs')

    Simple Math

    Pencil pushing reduces 2 million to a figure more easily understood.  There
are 365 days in the year.  Two million divided by 365 produced 5,479 Germans who
are victims of the aliens each and every day.  (Don't forget - there are three
times that number of crimes being committed in Germany at the same time.)
    Almost every time a Turk or a Black is beaten, or a foreign shelter is
attacked by irate Germans, that incident is media-labeled in a front page
extravaganza -"Outbreak of Neo-Nazi hate!" "Hate!" "Hate!" (ad nausea.)
    The newspapers are upset over the fact that skinheads and others are
beginning to protest their own mistreatment and their protests area called -
"hate".  Could it be that the Germans are becoming upset that 5,479 of their
people fall victim to the aliens each *DAY* and it is the Germans who are called
"bigots" and "hate-mongers", and it is the immigrants who are called the
"victims of hate"?

   TRUTH in Media Law Needed

   The law requires food and drink to be labeled as to its contents.  It is time
that the same laws be extended to cover the poisoned information dished out by
the media.  It should be compelled to tell the truth.  If they can run stories
and print pictures of almost every one of the two or three hundred (or 1,483 as
alleged by last article) aliens who have fallen victim to irate Germans, they
should also be required to print the pictures of the Germans who have fallen
victim to these same infidels - some 164,383 every MONTH!

  - This has been an excerpt from, "The Hoskin's Report", P.O. Box 997,
Lynchburg, Virginia 24505 USA (804)845-1335, May 4th, 1992 issue (#212)

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Article 10720 of alt.revisionism:
Subject: PC & Revisionism
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POLITICAL CORRECTNESS & HOLOCAUST REVISIONISM
     A Study of Thought Control & Modern Taboos.  

     Many people, when they first hear Holocaust Revisionist arguments,
find themselves bewildered.  The arguments appear to make sense, but
"How is it possible?"  The whole world believes the Holocaust story.
It's just not plausible that so great a conspiracy to suppress the
truth could have functioned for half a century.

     To understand how it could very well have happened, one needs only
to reflect on the intellectual and political orthodoxies of medieval
Europe, or those of Nazi Germany or the Communist-bloc countries.  In
all of these societies the great majority of scholars were caught up in
the existing political culture.  Committed to a prevailing ideology and
its interpretation of reality, these scholars and intellectuals felt it
was their right, and even their duty, to protect every aspect of that
ideology.  They did so by oppressing the evil dissidents who expressed
"offensive" or "dangerous" ideas.  In every one of those societies,
scholars became Thought Police.

     In our own society, in the debate over the question of political
correctness, there are those who deliberately attempt to trivialize the
issues.  They claim that there is no real problem with freedom of
speech on our campuses, and that all that is involved with PC are a few
rules which would defend minorities from those who would hurt their
feelings.  There is, of course, a deeper and more serious aspect to the
problem.  On American campuses today there is a wide range of ideas and
viewpoints that are forbidden to be discussed openly.  Even obvious
facts and realities, when they are politically unacceptable, are denied
and suppressed.  One can learn much about the psychology and
methodology of Thought Police by watching how they react when just one
of their taboos is broken and Holocaust Revisionism is given a public
forum.

     First they express outrage that such offensive and dangerous ideas
were allowed to be expressed publicly.  They avoid answering or
debating these ideas, claiming that to do so would give them a forum
and legitimacy.  Then they make vicious personal attacks against the
Revisionist heretic, calling him dirty political names such as "anti-
Semite," "racist" or "neo-Nazi," and they even suggest that he is a
potential mass murderer.  They publicly accuse the Revisionist of
lying, but they don't allow the heretic to hear the specific charge
against him or to face his accusers so that he can answer this slander.

     The Holocausters accuse Revisionists of being hate filled people
who are promoting a doctrine of hatred.  But Revisionism is a scholarly
process, not a doctrine or ideology.  If the Holocaust promoters really
want to expose hatred, they should take a second look at their own
doctrines, and a long look at themselves in the mirror.

     Anyone on campus who invites a Revisionist to speak is himself
attacked as being insensitive.  When a Revisionist does speak on campus
he is oftentimes shouted down and threatened.  Campus libraries and
bookstores face intimidation when they consider handling Holocaust
revisionist materials.  All this goes on while the majority of faculty
and university administrators sit dumbly by, allowing political
activists to determine what can be said and what can be read on their
campus.

     Next, the Thought Police set out to destroy the transgressor
professionally and financially by "getting" him at his job or
concocting a lawsuit against him.  The courts are sometimes used to
attack Revisionism.  The Holocausters often deceptively claim that
Revisionist scholarship has been proven false during a trial.  The fact
is that Revisionist arguments have never been evaluated or judged by
the courts.

     Finally, the Thought Police try to "straighten out" that segment
of academia or the media that allowed the Revisionists a forum in the
first place.

     It can be an instructive intellectual exercise to identify taboo
subjects, other than Holocaust Revisionism, which would evoke
comparable responses from Thought Police on our campuses.

     Recently, some administrators in academia have held that
university administrations should take actions to rid the campus of
ideas which are disruptive to the university.  This is a very dangerous
position for administrators to take.  It is an open invitation to
tyranny.  It means that any militant group with "troops at the ready"
can rid the campus of ideas it opposes and then impose its own
orthodoxy.  The cowardly administrator finds it much easier and safer
to rid the campus of controversial ideas than to face down a group of
screaming and snarling militants.  But it is the duty of university
administrators to insure that the university remains a free marketplace
of ideas.  When ideas cause disruptions, it is the disrupters who must
be subdued, not the ideas.


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      Hitler was financed by American and European Jews in the same way they
financed the Bolshevik Revolution.  Zionists suppressed the fact that some Jews
financed the Bolshevik Revolution and financed and cooperated with Hitler before
1933.  Pierre van Passen stated in the Jewish Standard, published in Toronto,
Canada, on July 7, 1933: "Jewish financiers pulled Adolf Hitler out of a ditch
by financing the Nazi organization."
      Many Zionist leaders in Palestine and other countries cooperated with the
Nazis, including leaders of Zionist terrorist gangs in Palestine such as
Menachem Begin an Yitshal Shamir.  Meyer W. Weisgal, Editor of 'The Jewish
Standard', stated in the issue of July 21, 1933, page 432, "One of the strangest
phenomena in the whole German situation is that of the so-called "Nationalist
Jews".  They are the Jewish followers of Adolf Hitler.  This group publishes a
paper which glorifies Hitler.  This fact was confirmed by David Ben-Gurion in
the Knesset, as reported in the Jerusalem Post of May 14, 1963.  Mr. Ben-Gurion
shouted at Menachem Begin and said:  "I was not a party of Herut's when they
praised, extolled and raised up the name of Hitler, set him up as a model for
the conduct of a national government, and included HItler among the outstanding
names of our era."
      
This shouldn't be surprising....after considering the following.

    "With gold we buy the most rebellious consciences, can subsidized all state
loans, and thereafter hold the states at our mercy.  Already the principal
banks, the exchanges of the entire world, the credits of all the governments,
are in our hands."  -Rabbi Reichorn

    "The Bolshevist revolution in Russian was the work of Jewish brains, of
Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a new order
in the world.  What was performed in so excellent a way in Russia, thanks to
Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction and by Jewish planning,
shall also, through the same Jewish mental and physical forces, become a reality
all over the world."  -'The American Hebrew', Sept 10, 1920

    "Marxism, you say, is the bitterest opponent of capitalism, which is sacred
to us.  For the simple reason that they are opposite poles, they deliver over to
us the two poles of the earth and permit us to be its axis.  These two
opposites, Bolshevism and ourselves, find ourselves identified in the
Internationale.  And these two opposites, the doctrine of the two poles of
society, meet in their unity of purpose, the renewal of the world from above by
the control of wealth, and from below by revolution."  -Quotation from a Jewish
banker by the Comte de Saint-Aulaire in 'Geneve contre la Paix, Libraire Plan,
Paris, 1936

     What is the purpose of the above?

    "The Jewish people as a whole will be its own Messiah.  It will attain world
dominion by the dissolution of other races, by the abolition of frontiers, the
annihilation of monarchy, and by the establishment of a world republic in which
the Jews will everywhere exercise the priviledge of citizenship.  In this new
world order the children of Israel will furnish all the leaders without
encountering opposition.  The Governments of the different peoples forming the
world republic will fall without difficulty into the hands of the Jews.  It will
then be possible for the Jewish rulers to abolish private property, and
everywhere to make use of the resources of the state.  Thus will the promise of
the Talmud be fulfilled, in which is said that when the Messianic time is come,
the Jews will have all the property of the whole world in their hands."  -Baruch
Levy, Letter to Karl Marx, 'La Revue  de Paris', p. 574, June 1, 1928



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Subject: Anti-Semitic, not.
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ANTI SEMITIC--NO!!    By Bob Hallstrom

    You can criticize the Catholics, the Mormons, or the Hindus, but if 
you talk about the Jews you are immediately branded as a racist, neo-
nazi, or being ANTI-SEMITIC. The Purpose of this article is to prove 
that the 20th century Jews living in Palestine, for the most part, are 
not descendants of the Semitic peoples. Therefore it is impossible to 
be anti-semitic towards Palestinian Jews.

                    THE JEWS ARE NOT SEMITIC

  The best way to understand who the Jews are is by reading what the 
Jews themselves have to say about who they are. Benjamin L. 
Freedman, himself a Jew said:

   "Popular ignorance of the real basis of political Zionism is beyond 
calculation.  Vaguely most Christian Americans have the idea that the 
Jews claim Palestine because it was the "Promised Land" in which 
they lived for a period of a few centuries that ended 2,000 years ago.  
And the  thought of a people returning to its "homeland" seems 
emotionally satisfying and good.  But here are the facts most 
Americans do not know.
   "Political Zionism is almost exclusively a movement by the Jews of 
Europe.  But these Eastern European Jews have neither a racial or 
historic connection with Palestine.  Their ancestors were not 
inhabitants of the "Promised Land".  They are direct descendants of 
the people of the Khazar Kingdom, which existed in the 12th century.
   "The Khazars were a non-Semitic, Turko-Finn, Mongolian tribal 
people who, about the First century A.D., emigrated from Middle 
Asia to Eastern Europe.  There they created one of the largest 
kingdoms of their time.  At its greatest extent, it covered an area of 
about 800,000 miles.
   "About the 8th century A.D., the king of the Khazars adopted 
Judaism as the state religion, and a majority of the inhabitants joined 
him in the new allegiance.  Before that date there was no such thing 
as a Khazar that was a Jew.  Neither then nor since was there such a 
thing as a Khazar whose ancestors had come from the Holy Land.
   "In view of this fact, what becomes of the cry for "repatriation" to 
the "homeland"?  These Eastern European, Yiddish speaking Jews 
have no historical or racial connection with Palestine or, for that 
matter, with the other Jews who existed in other countries prior to the 
Khazar conversion. "

   Mr. Friedman points out quite clearly that the people living in 
Palestine in the 20th century have no "racial or historic connection 
with Palestine" and that they are really descendants from a "Turko-
Finn, Mongolian tribal people" who created a kingdom called 
Khazaria which existed until the 12th century.
   These Khazarian Jews could just as easily practiced Christianity, 
but for whatever reason they chose Judaism and there is nothing that 
can be done about it.
   Obviously, if these people have "no racial, or historic connection 
with Palestine" they have no claim to the promises made to Abraham, 
Isaac, and Jacob.
   If this is true then there should be more evidence to support this 
position, and there is.  The American People's Encyclopedia for 1964 
at 15-292 records the following reference to Khazars:

   "In the year 740 the Khazars were officially converted to Judaism.  
A century later they were cursed by the in-coming Slavic-speaking 
people and were scattered over central Europe where they were 
known as Jews.  It is from this grouping that most German and Polish 
Jews are descended, and they likewise make up a considerable part of 
that population now found in America.  The term Aschenazim is now 
applied to this round-headed, dark-complectioned division."

   The Jews fully understand their Khazarian heritage as the third 
edition of the Jewish Encyclopedia for 1925 records:

   "Chazars: a people of Turkish origin whose life and history are 
interwoven with the very beginnings of the history of the Jews of 
Russia." The Jewish Encyclopedia, Third Edition, 1925

   In addition, under the heading "A Brief History of the Terms for 
Jew" in the 1980 Jewish Almanac is the following:

   "Strictly speaking it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a "Jew" 
or to call a contemporary Jew an Israelite
or a "Hebrew." 1980 Jewish Almanac, P.3

   In a book entitled "Races in Europe", the author, William Z. Ripley, 
states under ethology:

   "The findings of physical anthropology show that contrary to all 
popular view, there is no Jewish race.  "Our conclusion then is final.  
It is paradoxial yet true, we affirm.  The Jews are not a race, but only 
a people after all."

   Perhaps it can be understood why the World Book Encyclopedia 
states:

   "The Jews were once a sub-type of the Mediterranean race, but they 
have mixed with other peoples until the name Jew has lost all racial 
meaning."

   From the above definitions it can be concluded that since the 
majority of people in modern Palestine and those who call themselves 
Jews are descendants from a "Turko-Finn, Mongolian tribal people" 
from Khazaria, they have never been a Semitic people.  Therefore 
anyone who would be critical or oppose them cannot be anti-Semitic.  
They may be anti-Khazarian, anti-Jew, but certainly not anti-Semitic.

                       THE SEMITIC PEOPLES

   The Zondervan Pictorial Bible Dictionary states on page 768:

   "The term Semite is derived from Noah's son Shem and is used to 
identify a diverse group of ancient peoples' whose languages are 
related, belonging to the Semitic family of languages...
   "We can name some of the principle irruptions: the Amorites, the 
Canaanites, the Arameans, the Nabateans, and the Arabs.
   "The principle Semitic peoples of ancient times were:
    1) The Akkadians
    2) The Arameans
    3) The Canaanites
    4) The Arabs
    5) The Ethiopians."

   Thus we see that the word "Semitic" or "Semite" was derived from 
Shem but it should be noticed that the application of the word is not 
"racial" nor is it directed towards the descendants of Shem but 
towards various peoples speaking a common language.
   The Palestinian Jews being a "Turko-Finn, Mongolian tribal 
people" from Khazaria, are not one of the Semitic peoples listed in 
this definition.  Therefore, being against the Palestinian Jews does not 
make a person anti-Semitic.  Anti- Khazarian--Yes.  Anti-Jew--Yes.  
Anti-Semitic--NO!

                      THE SEMITIC LANGUAGE

   Although the above World Book definition omits any reference to 
the Jews, under the word Semite it states:

   "Semite....Semites are those who speak Semitic languages. In this 
sense the ancient Hebrews, Assyrians, Phoenicians, and Cartaginians 
were Semites.  The Arabs and some Ethiopians are modern Semitic-
speaking peoples.
   "Modern Semitic Peoples.  Modern Jews are often called Semites, 
but this name properly applies only to those who use the Hebrew 
language.  The Jews were once a sub-type of the Mediterranean race, 
but they have mixed with other peoples until the name Jew has lost 
all racial meaning."

   Please notice that this definition does make reference to the 
Hebrews as a people speaking the Semitic language but it does not 
mention Jews. It does make the point that "Arabs" and "Ethiopians" 
are modern-day "Semitic speaking peoples" but again omits the Jews. 
In addition this encyclopedia specifically points out that Jews are 
erroneously referred to as Semites and insists that a Semite had to 
speak "Hebrew" (Semitic) language, concluding that the Jews have so 
"intermixed" with the other races, "the name Jew has lost all racial 
meaning".
   The World Book states the Jews are a "sub-type...race.." and a 
"mixed" people.  It seems that a mixed people would speak a mixed 
language.  According to the same encyclopedia the 20th century 
Palestinian Jews living in the land of Israeli (not Israel) speak the 
Yiddish language which:

   "...grew from High German, and has some words from the Hebrew, 
Polish, Russian, and English languages."

   Besides that the ancient Hebrew language is a dead language as it 
has not been spoken for centurys.  Since the Palestinian Jews do not 
speak Hebrew they are and never have been Semites.  Therefore 
making critical remarks against them cannot make a person anti-
Semitic.
   Basically a people living in Palestine in 1988 are a mixed race of 
people (Turko-Finn, Mongolian tribal people" from Khazaria) and 
have no racial identity (other than that stated above) and practice 
many variations of what is called "Judaism" which is nothing more 
than a new name for "Pharisaism."  For whatever reason, these people 
have chosen to call themselves Jews and practice Judaism but they 
are not direct descendants of "Shem" nor did they ever speak the 
"Hebrew" (Semitic) language. Therefore it is impossible that by being 
against a Jew one could be anti-Semitic.  Anti-Khazarian--Yes.  Anti-
Jew--Yes. Anti- Semitic--NO!

                      JUDAISM IS PHARISAISM

   There are also many people throughout the world who practice a 
religion called Judaism, but they are people from various races and 
call themselves Jews because of their religious beliefs.  This problem 
is further compounded because there are some Scots, Irish, German, 
Swedes, etc., who also practice Judaism and call themselves Jews.  
Even Sammy Davis Jr. (a black) claims to be a Jew.  These people 
are not Khazarian-Jews nor are they necessarily political Zionists.  
They simply practice a religion called Pharisaism which, except for 
the name, has not changed in 2,000 years.  The eminent Jewish 
Rabbi, Louis Finklestein, head of the Jewish Theological Seminary of 
America, in the Foreward of his first edition, "The Pharasees, The 
Sociological Background of Their Faith," stated on page 21: 

   "Judaism...Pharisiasm..Talmudism became Medieval Rabbinism, 
and Mediaeval Rabbinism became modern Rabbinism.  But 
throughout these changes in name...the spirit of the ancient Pharisee 
survives,unaltered."(Exploding the "Chosen People" Myth by Lt. Col. 
Jack Mohr)

   We cannot be expected to agree with the religious beliefs of the 
Jews any more than we do with the Hindus, Buddhists, Mormons, or 
Catholics.  Why is it so terribly wrong to be anti-Jew and not wrong 
to be anti-Buddhist, anti-Hindu, anti- Catholic, and anti-Mormon?  
Since we also disagree with these other religions shouldn't we also be 
branded as anti-Hindu, anti-Buddhist, anti-Catholic, and anti-
Mormon?  It should be obvious to anyone that these religions are 
anti-us (those who do not profess their religion).  Why isn't someone 
crying out about their bias against us?  Why is it we can speak out 
against the Pope, Joseph Smith, and Buddha and no one really gets 
upset, but speak out against a Jew or Judaism and you are 
immediately denounced?

                       CHRIST WAS ANTI-JEW

   While the Scripture does not state, by name, what political, 
economic, and religious organizations are righteous, we should have 
enough sense to follow the guidance and example of our Lord and 
Savior. A reading of John 8 and Matt 23 should be enough to 
convince anyone that Jesus was anti-Jew:

   "Jesus therefore said to those Jews which had believed him,...Ye 
(Jews) are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father it is 
your will to do...He that is God heareth the words of God: for this 
cause ye (Jews) hear them not, because ye (Jews) are not of God." 
John 8:31, 44,47
   "Woe be unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!...Ye serpents, 
ye offspring of vipers, how shall ye (Jews) excape the judgement of 
Hell?" Matt 23:29,33

   Why isn't the news media screaming at Christ for vilifying the 
Jews?
   Christ and the apostles continuously warned us about the false 
prophets of Judaism.  Paul was a Pharisee and proclaimed Judaism 
until called by God.  Paul then spoke out against Judaism and even 
went so far in the Epistle to Titus to call their religion "Jewish 
Fables."  He said that the Jews were "rebellious men" whose "mouths 
must be stopped" because they were "teaching things they ought not" 
and that we were to "reprove them sharply" as they were "giving heed 
to Jewish fables and commandments of men".  Paul continued by 
calling them "defiled and unbelieving" and those "who profess that 
they know God: but by their works they deny him being abominable 
and disobedient..." Titus 1:10-16
  If we look to the deeds and history of the Khazarian Zionist Jews 
and of Judaism for the last 2000 years, we see that they have done 
nothing to advance the Gospel of the Kingdom of God nor the Good 
News of Salvation.  The Jews of yesterday so hated Christ they 
planned his death.  Today's Jews vehemently denounce and deny 
Christ Jesus as Saviour and according to a letter I received  from a 
Jew, would again plot His death as did the Pharisees.  To this day 
Jews look to the Talmud for their guidance and reject the living Word 
of the Holy Bible.  We need look no further for their good deeds and 
works for Christ in the world today--THERE ARE NONE!

   Christ was and is our role model and He knew the Pharisaical Jews 
by their DEEDS and WORKS and we also know them by their 
DEEDS and WORKS.  Since Christ was anti-Jew and spoke out 
against them, should we not also stand, and as Paul said "reprove 
them sharply" to expose their corrupted works.
   Now you know dear beloved of Christ, why it is when we speak out 
against Pharisaism in the form of Khazarian Zionist Jews and 
Judaism, we are treated like the supporters of Hitler?  But be strong O 
Beloved of God for He plainly told us: "If the world (order) hateth 
you, ye know it hated me before it hated you..If they (Jews) 
persecuted me, they (Jews) will also persecute you.." John 15:18,20
   What was good enough for Christ, is good enough for me!


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Subject: Jewish roots
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"Jewish" Roots...
     We all need to understand that those who call themselves "Jews" today are
no more related to the Israelites in Judea (Palestine) at the time of Christ
than the African blacks were related to the Romans.
	   For instance:  In the 1980 Jewish Almanac under the heading of "A brief
History of the Terms for Jew" it says... 'Strictly speaking it is INCORRECT to
call an ancient Israelite a 'Jew' or to call a contemporary 'Jew' an Israelite
OR a 'Hebrew.'"  P.3 
      Dr. Benjamin Freidman was a converted Jew to Christianity who dedicated
his whole fortune and life to bringing to light the religion of the Jews and the
teachings of their Talmud.  To quote from his book Facts are Facts he said:
  	".....every Christian especially every pastor should take time to investigate
if this is true.  Ask yourself, what do I know about the Talmud?  From the birth
of Jesus to the present there has never been recorded a more vicious, vile and
libelous blasphemy against Jesus and Christians then you will find in the pages
of these 63 volumes.  The Talmud reviles Christ and Christians in unbelievably
foul, obscene, indecent, lued and vile language."
     So we shall go into a little history of those who call themselves "Jews"
today.  The following is more from Benjamin Freidman:

The Truth About the Khazars. 

	  The Khazars were not RSemitesS.  They were an Asiatic Mongoloid nation.  They
are classified by modern anthropologists as Turco-Finns racially.  From time
immemorial the homeland of the Khazars was in the heart of Asia. They were a
very warlike nation.  The Khazars were driven out of Asia finally by the nations
in Asia with whom they were continually at war.  The Khazars invaded eastern
Europe to escape further defeats in Asia.  The very warlike Khazars did not find
it difficult to subdue and conquer the 25 peaceful agricultural nations
occupying approximately 1,000,000 square miles in eastern Europe.  In a
comparatively short period the Khazars established the largest and most powerful
kingdom in Europe, and probably the wealthiest also.

	  The Khazars were a pagan nation when they invaded eastern Europe. Their
religious worship was a mixture of phallic worship and other forms of idolatrous
worship practiced in Asia by pagan nations  This form of worship continued until
the 7th century.  The vile forms of sexual excess indulged in by the Khazars as
their form of religious worship produced a degree of moral degeneracy the
KhazarUs king could not endure.  In the 7th century King Bulan, ruler at that
time of the Khazar Kingdom, decided to abolish the practice of phallic worship
and other forms of idolatrous worship and make one of the three monotheistic
religions, about which he knew very little, the new state religion.  After a
historic session with representatives of the three monotheistic religions King
Bulan decided against Christian and Islam and selected as the future state
religion as the religious worship then know as RTalmudismS, and now known and
practiced as RJudaismS.  This even is well documented in history.

	  King Bulan and his 4000 feudal nobles were promptly converted by rabbis
imported from Babylonia for that event.  Phallic worship and other forms of
idolatry were thereafter forbidden.  The Khazar kings invited large numbers of
rabbis to come and open synagogues and schools to instruct the population in the
new form of religious worship.  It was now the state religion.  The converted
Khazars were the first population of so-called or self-styled RJewsU in eastern
Europe.  So-called or self-styled RJewsS in eastern Europe after the conversion
of the Khazars the descendants of the Khazars converted to RTalmudismS, or as it
is now know RJudaismS, by the 7th century mass conversion of the Khazar
population.

	  After the conversion of King Bulan none but a so-called or self-styled RJewS
could occupy the Khazar throne.  The Khazar Kingdom became a virtual theocracy. 
The religious leaders were the civil administrators also.  The religious leaders
imposed the teachings of the Talmud upon the population as their guide to
living.  The ideologies of the Talmud became the axis of political, cultural,
economic and social attitudes and activities throughout the Khazar kingdom.  The
Talmud provided civil and religious law.

  	It might be very interesting for you, my dear Dr. Goldstein, if you have the
patience, to allow me to quote for you here from Volume IV, pages 1 to 5, of the
Jewish Encyclopedia.  The Jewish Encyclopedia refers to the Khazars as
RChazarsS.  The two spellings are optional according to the best authorities. 
The two are pronounced alike.  Either Khazar or RChazarS is pronounced like the
first syllable of RcostumeS with the word RCzarS added onto it.  It is correctly
pronounced Rcos(tume)CzarS.  The Jewish Encyclopedia has five pages on the
Khazars but I will skip through them:

	  RCHAZARS:  A people of Turkish origin whose life and history are interwoven
with THE  VERY  BEGINNINGS  OF  THE  HISTORY  OF  THE  JEWS  OF  RUSSIA...driven
on by the nomadic tribes of the steppes and by THEIR  OWN  DESIRE  FOR  PLUNDER 
AND  REVENGE...In the second half of the sixth century the Chazars moved
westward...The kingdom of the chazars was firmly established in MOST  OF  SOUTH 
RUSSIA  LONG  BEFORE  THE  FOUNDATIONS  OF  THE  RUSSIAN  MONARCHY  BY  THE 
VARANGIAN (855)...At this time the kingdom of the Chazars stood at the height of
its power AND  WAS  CONSTANTLY  AT  WAR... At the end of the eighth
century...the chagan (king) of the Chazars and his grandees, TOGETHER  WITH  A 
LARGE  NUMBER  OF  HIS  HEATHEN  PEOPLE,  EMBRACED  THE  JEWISH  RELIGION... 
The Jewish population in the entire domain of the Chazars, in the period between
the seventh and tenth centuries, MUST  HAVE  BEEN  CONSIDERABLE... about THE 
NINTH  CENTURY,  IT  APPEARS  AS  IF  ALL  THE  CHAZARS  WERE  JEWS  AND  THAT 
THEY  HAD  BEEN  CONVERTED  TO  JUDAISM  ONLY  A  SHORT  TIME  BEFORE... It was
one of the successors of Bulan named Obadiah, who regenerated the kingdom and
STRENGTHENED THE JEWISH RELIGION.  He invited Jewish scholars to settle in his
dominions, and founded SYNAGOGUES AND SCHOOLS.  The people were instructed in
the bible, Mishnah, and the TALMUD and in the Tdivine service of the hazzanimU..
In their writings the CHAZARS  USED  THE  HEBREW  LETTERS ... THE CHAZAR 
LANGUAGES  PREDOMINATED...  Obadiah was succeeded by his son Isaac; Isaac by his
son Moses (or Manasseh II); the latter by his son Nisi; and Nisi by his son
Aaron II.  King Joseph himself was a son of Aaron, AND  ASCENDED  THE  THRONE 
IN  ACCORDANCE  WITH  THE  LAW  OF  THE  CHAZARS  RELATING  TO  SUCCESSION... 
The king had twenty-five wives, all of royal blood, and sixty concubines, all
famous beauties.  Each one slept in a separate tent and was watched by a
enuch...THIS  SEEMS  TO  HAVE  BEEN  THE  BEGINNING  OF  THE  DOWNFALL  OF  THE 
CHAZAR  KINGDOM ... The Russian Varangians established themselves at Kiev...
until the final conquest of the Chazars by the Russians...After a hard fight the
Russians conquered the Chazars... Four years later the Russians conquered all
the Chazarian territory east of the Azov ... many members of the Chazarian royal
family emigrated to Spain... Some went to Hungary, BUT  THE  GREAT  MASS  OF 
THE  PEOPLE  REMAINED  IN  THEIR  NATIVE  COUNTRY.S

	   When the Khazars in the 1st century B.C. invaded eastern Europe their
mother-tongue was an Asiatic language, referred to in the Jewish Encyclopedia as
the RKhazar languagesS.  They were primitive Asiatic dialects without any
alphabet or any written form.  When King Bulan was converted in the 7th century
he decreed that the Hebrew characters he saw in the Talmud and other Hebrew
documents was thereupon to become the alphabet for the Khazar language.  The
Hebrew characters were adopted to the phonetics of the spoken Khazar language. 
The Khazars adopted the characters of the so-called Hebrew language in order to
provide a means for providing a written record of their speech.  The adoption of
the Hebrew characters had no racial, political or religious implication.

	   The western European uncivilized nations which had no alphabet for their
spoken language adopted the alphabet of the Latin language under comparable
circumstances.  With the invasion of western Europe by the Romans the
civilization and the culture of the Romans was introduced into these uncivilized
areas.  Thus the Latin alphabet was adopted for the language of the French,
Spanish, ENGLISH, Swedish and many other western European languages.  These
languages were completely foreign to each other yet they all used the same
alphabet.  The Romans brought their alphabet with their culture to these
uncivilized nations exactly like the rabbis brought the Hebrew alphabet from
Babylonia to the Khazars when they introduced writing to them in the form of the
TalmudUs alphabet.

	   Since the conquest of the Khazars by the Russians and the disappearance of
the Khazar Kingdom the language of the Khazars is known as Yiddish.  for about
six centuries the so-called or self-styled RJewsS of eastern Europe have
referred to themselves while still resident in their native eastern European
countries as RYiddishS by nationality.  They identified themselves as RYiddishS
rather than as Russian, Polish, Galician, Lithuanian, Rumanian, Hungarian or by
the nation of which they were citizens.  They also referred to the common
language they all spoke as RYiddishS also.  There are today in New York City as
you know, my dear Dr. Goldstein, many RYiddishS newspapers, RYiddishS theaters,
and many other cultural organizations of so-called or self-styled RJewsS from
eastern Europe which are identified publicly by the word RYiddishS in their
title.

	   Before it became known as the RYiddishS language, the mother-tongue of the
Khazars added many words to its limited ancient vocabulary as necessity
required.  These words were acquired from the languages of its neighboring
nations with whom they had political, social or economic relations.  Languages
of all nations add to their vocabularies in the same way.  The Khazars adapted
words to their requirements form the German, the Slavonic and the Baltic
languages.  The Khazars adopted a great number of words from the German
language.  The Germans had a much more advanced civilization than their Khazar
neighbors and the Khazars sent their children to German schools and
universities.

	   The RYiddishS language is not a German dialect.  Many people are led to
believe so because RYiddishS has borrowed so many words from the German
language.  If RYiddishS is a German dialect acquired from the Germans then what
language did the Khazars speak for 1000 years they existed in eastern Europe
before they acquired culture from the Germans?  The Khazars must have spoken
some language when they invaded eastern Europe.  What was that language?  When
did they discard it?  How did the entire Khazar population discard one language
and adopt another all of a sudden?  The idea is too absurd to discuss. 
RYiddishS is the modern name for the ancient mother-tongue of the Khazars with
added German, Slavonic and Baltic adopted and adapted numerous words.

	   RYiddishS must not be confused with RHebrewS because they both use the same
characters as their alphabets.  There is not one word of RYiddishS in ancient
RHebrewS nor is there one word of ancient RHebrewS in RYiddishS.  As I stated
before, they are as totally different as Swedish and Spanish which both likewise
use the same Latin characters for their alphabets.  The RYiddishS languages is
the cultural common denominator for all the so-called or self-styled RJewsS in
or from eastern Europe.  To the so-called or self-styled RJewsS in and from
eastern Europe, RYiddishS serves them like the English language serves the
populations of the 48 states of the United States.  Their cultural common
denominator throughout the 48 states is the English language, or wherever they
may emigrate and resettle.  The English language is the tie which binds them to
each other.  It is the same with the RYiddishS language and so-called or
self-styled RJewsS throughout the world.

	   RYiddishS serves another very useful purpose for so-called or self-styled
RJewsS throughout the world.  They possess in RYiddishS what no other national,
racial or religious group can claim.  Approximately 90% of the world's so-called
or self-styled RJewsS living in 42 countries of the world today are either
emigrants from eastern Europe, or their parents emigrated from eastern Europe. 
RYiddishS is a language common to all of them as their first or second language
according to where they were born.  It is an RinternationalS language to them. 
Regardless of what country in the world they may settle in they will always find
co-religionists who also speak RYiddishS.  RYiddishS enjoys other international
advantages too obvious to describe here.  RYiddishS is the modern language of a
nation which has lost its existence as a nation.  RYiddishS never had a
religious implication, although using Hebrew characters for its alphabet.  It
must not be confused with words like RJewishS.  But it is very much.

   	The so-called or self-styled RJewsS throughout the world today of eastern
European origin make up at least 90% of the world's total present population of
so-called or self-styled RJewsS.  The conversion of King Bulan and the Khazar
nation in the 7th century accomplished for RTalmudismS, or for RJudaismS as
RTalmudismS is called today, what the conversion of Constantine and the western
European nations accomplished for Christianity.  Christianity was a small
comparatively unimportant religious belief practiced principally in the eastern
Mediterranean area until the conversion to the Christian faith of the large
populations of the western European pagan nations after the conversion of
Constantine.  RTalmudismS, or RJudaismS as RTalmudismS is known today, was given
its greatest stimulus in all its history with the conversion of the large pagan
Khazar population in the 7th century.  Without the conversion of the Khazar
population it is doubtful if RTalmudismS, or RJudaismS as RTalmudismS is known
today, could have survived.  RTalmudismS, the civil and religious code of the
Pharisees, most likely would have passed out of existence like the many other
creeds and cults practiced by the peoples in that area before, during and after
RPharisaismS assumed its prominent position among these creeds and cults in the
time of Jesus.  RTalmudismS, as RPharisaismS was called later, would have
disappeared with all its contemporary creeds and cults but for  the conversion
of the Khazars to RTalmudismS in the 7th century.  At that time RTalmudismS was
well on its way towards complete oblivion.

(an excerpt from "Facts are Facts" by Benajmin Freedman, available from SSCOB,
Box 5251, Denver, C0 80217 for $2.00)

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From: dmittleman@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu (Daniel Mittleman)
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On Thursday, April 14 a poster calling himself Rick Savage in message
<00016A20.fc@nile.com> posted an essay called:

          POLITICAL CORRECTNESS & HOLOCAUST REVISIONISM
          A Study of Thought Control & Modern Taboos.  

This essay attempts to establish a premise for why the holocaust should be
debated.  Included in that essay was the passage:

         "First they express outrage that such offensive and
         dangerous ideas were allowed to be expressed
         publicly.  They avoid answering or debating these
         ideas, claiming that to do so would give them a
         forum and legitimacy."  

Later the same day in message <14APR199408255375@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu> 
I replied:

         "Yo, Ricky.  Did you write this, or is this someone
         elses work you have posted without attribution?  If
         you wrote this, or if you stand behind the points
         made in it, I am willing to debate it with you
         paragraph by paragraph."

Rick Savage has since posted other articles to alt.revisionism so I
will assume that he has read my reply, but Mr. Savage has not
responded to my challange either publicly or privately.

It appears that Mr. Savage would prefer to assert "they avoid
answering or debating" ideas rather than debate them himself.  Perhaps
Mr. Savage is a turkey.  Perhaps Mr. Savage needs to take some time
and read his own posts before he responds to them.  I am not sure. 
But I note once again with the last sentence from my initial response:

         "So if you like, I will debate the ideas of your
         post with you.  Are you willing, or is this
         sentence in the post mere rhetoric?"

I am now asking Mr. Savage publicly for a third time: do you simply post
drivel to the net and hide, or are you willing to debate your posts with me
line by line?  Are you "avoid[ing] answering or dabating these ideas" or
are you simply afraid a debate will give my ideas "a forum and legitimacy?"

Danny 

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Article 11397 of alt.revisionism:
Subject: Hate Crime Frauds
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From: Rick_Savage@nile.com (Rick Savage)

Swastika Hoax  
or How the Big Lie of the Holocaust
Legend is Reinforced by Fraud.

    A seventeen-year-old handicapped girl from Berlin started a national outrage
in Germany when she claimed that three skinheads had carved a swastika into her
cheek while screaming "Heil Hitler" and "Gas the cripples."
     The Associated Press began an account of the January 10 attack with the
words:  "Reminded of the Third Reich's attempts to exterminate the disabled,
Germans sought to come to grips Wednesday with a neo-Nazi attack that left a
swastika carved on the face of a girl in a wheelchair."  All of the U.S.
television networks reported the incident in similarly grim tones.  Jewish and
Christian spokesmen in both Germany and America shamelessly expressed their
outrage and called for new laws against "hate."
     Although state prosecutor Juergen Hossfeld had doubts about the story from
the beginning, he launched a manhunt by 100 policement and distributed 4,000
copies of sketches of the skinheads across the country.  An estimated 2,000
people demonstrated in the streets against "neo-Nazis" and the Pope condemned
this "heinous" crime. 
     When medical examiners noted that the swastika on the girl's cheek was made
up of 34 separate, shallow cuts - a characteristic of self-inflicted wounds -
police, began questioning the girl, Elke Jager, more closely.  Finally Elke
admitted that she had done it herself, and that the skin-head assault was an
imaginary as "the Third Reich's attempts to exterminate the disabled."  
     American television viewers, who reacted with appropriate horror to the
original reports of the attack, never heard about Elke's confession, of course. 
In Germany, where the news could not be so easily suppressed, one might have
expected a certain amount of embarrassment on the part of the the Jews and
Judeo-Christians who had been calling so loudly for new laws against neo-Nazis,
but there was none of it.  Perhaps Elke had lied, they said, but the neo-Nazis
were still capable of doing what she said they had done, and so the suspiciously
prompt demonstration against them had been fully justified.
     This is only the latest of many hoaxes of this nature in Germany and
elsewhere.  The motive for these lies is not only publicity, but generous state
and insurance compensation.
     A few of the German news media looked into their archives and found records
of earlier swastika-carving reports.  There had been a 14-year-old girl in
Saxony-Anhalt who had carved a swastika into her cheek in November 1992 and then
blamed two skinheads.  There were four cases of swastika carvings in 1993, and
all of them had been self-inflicted.  Just 11 days after Elke's "attack" and
before the hoax had been exposed, a 15-year-old Turkish immigrant in the
Bavarian city of Selb repoted that he had been attacked by a gang of German
skinheads who had carved a swastika into his arm while they taunted him with
anti-Turkish and anti-immigrant slogans.  As in every other case, a police
investigation revealed that he had done the carving himself and then invented
the story about the skinheads.

     I don't recall where again, but some "civil libertarian" somewhere
documented numerous insurance fraud cases involving self-inflicted "hate
crimes".  I wonder what the statistics of the so-called "hate crimes" would be
minus all of these staged events.


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Jewish Liars -
Swastika Hoax

   Jerome and Jamie Roedel, a Jewish couple from Cooper City, Florida, claimed
their home had been burglarized and the walls desecrated with swastikas.  Later,
under intense questioning, the Roedels confessed they had staged the whole thing
to defraud their insurance company.

    This is just one tree in the larger forest.  How many more so-called
"anti-semitic hate crimes" are staged by Jews to defraud insurance companies,
generate sypathy or fundraising?  The Jews cannot prosper without someone
"persecuting them".  They are nothing but a self-fulfilling prophecy, as Albert
Einstein put so well:

     "Anti-Semitism is nothing but the antagonistic attitude produced in the
non-Jew by the Jewish group.  The Jewish group has thrived on oppression and on
the antagonism it has forever met in the world."  (Collier's Magazine, November
26, 1938).

     In other words, anti-Semitism, is profitable.  

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golux@mcs.com laments...
>If you believe in "Identity," perhaps you could provide the 
doctrine yourself, rather than pimping for others and their 
direct marketing efforts.<<

   I was answering a twisted smear in posting the summary of the Identity
message.  It was no more a "direct marketing effort" than the poorly researched
slander of the "Christian" Research Group.  I am still amazed at your "logic",
concerning the facts presented in the tract I posted from the Identity
viewpoint, as somehow "less true" because it included an address for those who
wish to follow-up on the matter.  
   If we are going to use your standard of judging "truth", we must condemn
everyone across the board and refrain from listing sources because that would
mean we are "pimping for others and their direct marketing efforts."  We must
rely solely on our own opinions and original thought since all external sources
must be rulled out arbitrarily.
   
   We know that you cannot see any logic beyond your nose, since all "truth"
must originate from between your ears...but others are not so close-minded and
pre-judgemental and are willing to hear both sides of the story before deciding
on a matter.


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   This is for "golux@mcs.com" - his claim that this discussion does not belong
in "alt. revisionism" seems to be based on his ignorance of what an "alt."
conference is.  There is no moderator, which allows him to post his fantastic
"logical" observations.
   But there are several reasons why the discussion concerning the true Identity
of Biblical "Israel" is very relevant to this discussion.  IF it can be proven
from the God's Word and His-story that the people who proclaim themselves to be
"Jews" are not the Israelites of the Bible then many of the claims of these
self-styled "Jews" are based on falsehood.  
   How does that Roman legal principal go?  Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus: 
the lie of a malicious person proves that anything else he says is likely also
to be a lie.  
    If it is established that the self-styled "Jews" of today who adher to the
tenants of Judaism however loosely are not who they claim they are, then all
else they say becomes suspect.
    Is not a study into who biblical Israel is, not revisionism?  The
consequences of such a study effects not only the religions of Judaism and
Christianity but also the politics of all nations where these two religions use
the "chosen" status as a bludgeon or blessing.
    For example, their claim on Palestine was made on the assumption that it was
"their land" because they were the Biblical "Jews" (Judahites) who once
possessed the land.  It was their "homeland", which they were somehow deprived
of for over a thousand years.   If they are not the "Jews" of the Bible, this
claim becomes groundless and they stole the land on a false premise.


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Identity:  The Choice is Clear

     RHereUs a paradox, a paradox, a most ingenious paradox: and anthropological
fact, many Christians may have much more Hebrew-Israelite blood in their veins
than most of their Jewish neighbors.S (1)  --Alfred M. Lilienthal

     Could their possibly be any truth to this?  If so, it would mean that the
majority of Christendom and the rest of society has misidentified the people
most prominent in the Bible.  If Israel has been misidentified there is no doubt
that major errors in doctrinal interpretation and application of Biblical
prophecy have been made!
     There are a variety of stories regarding the Israelites and their
modern-day identity.  It is not the purpose of this tract to relate another of
these stories.  Instead, it will furnish you with the Trest of the story,U the
true story regarding IsraelUs modern identity, the one found in the Scriptures
and verified by archeology and history -- a story not usually told by most
preachers.

SPIRITUAL ISRAEL

     A large segment of Christianity is being taught that God no longer has a
plan for Tphysical IsraelU under the New Covenant, and that He is now working
with only a Tspiritual Israel.U  For example, in the January/February 1991 issue
of TThe Last Trump,U Dr. Ed Moore claimed:
     RHence, we can begin to see that being the children of Abraham (today under
the New Covenant) has nothing to do with race.S (2)
     In his book TClouds over America,U Leonard C. Lee concluded:
     RSince God rejected the Israelites as a nation, we can look for the
fulfillment of His purposes only in [a] spiritual Israel. . .  The [physical]
Israelites have now passed off the stage of action. . .S (3)
     In essence, these men and others like them, are proclaiming that God has no
NEW COVENANT (emphasis added, original in italics) plan for physical Israel. 
Yet, contrast these statements with what the inspired writer of Hebrews wrote:
     RBehold days are coming, says the LORD when I will effect a *New Covenant*
WITH the *House of Israel* and with the *House of Judah*. . .S (Hebrews 8:8).
     While some people attempt to spiritualize this passage of Scripture to fit
their preconceived ideas or to harmonize it with their denominationUs teachings,
the Israelites cannot be spiritualized in this verse, and for three reasons.

     FIRST, the context will not allow it.  The very next verse dictates as to
whether the Israelites spoken of in verse eight are to be deemed as being either
physical or spiritual:
     RNot like the [Mosaic] covenant which I made with THEIR [The House of
IsraelUs and the House of JudahUs] *fathers on the day when I took them by the
hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt*. . .S (Hebrews 8:9)   (emp. added)
     The people described in this passage, with whom the New Covenant was and is
being made, are clearly the physical descendants of the PHYSICAL PEOPLE (emp.
add.) whom Moses led out of Egypt.

     The SECOND reason Israel cannot be spiritualized is illustrated by the Old
Testament passage from which Hebrews 8:8-12 is quoted.  The author of Hebrews
quoted the Prophet Jeremiah, and Jeremiah continued with the following:
     RThus says YHWH (the LORD), who gives the sun for light by day, and the
fixed order of the moon and the stars for light by day. . .  *If this fixed
order departs from before Me...then the offspring of Israel also shall cease
from being a nation before Me forever*.  Thus says YHWH, *If the heavens above
can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out below, then I
will also cast off the offspring of Israel. . .S (Jeremiah 31:35-37)
     Since the fixed order of the sun, moon and stars has not departed, and
since the heavens have not been measured, and the depths of the earth searched
out below, then it is quite apparent that God is still working with the physical
descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.  If not, then God has lied.

     The THIRD reason the Israelites in Hebrews 8:8 cannot be spiritualized is
because of the second witness found in Romans where the Apostle Paul declared:
     RFor I could wish that I myself were accursed, separated from [the] Christ
for the sake of my brethren, *my kinsmen according to the flesh, who are
Israelites, to whom belong. . . the covenants*. . .S  (Romans 9:3,4)

     Not only do the previous three passages specifically declare that God made
His New Covenant with *Israelites*, but there are many more New Testament
passages which reveal that God continues to work with the *physical* nation of
Israel to this day. (Matt. 1:21; 2:6; 10:6; 15:24; Luke
1:16,33,54-55,68,72-73,77; 19:9,10; 22:30; Acts 1:6; 5:31; 13:23,24; Romans 4:1;
11:1,2; James 1:1; Rev. 7:3-8; 21:10-12, etc.)
 
TODAYUS JEWS

     Nearly all of Christendom is being taught that todayUs RJewsS represent
Israel.  Yet, how many of those same people have ever been taught that the Bible
warns us of Israelite impostors?  ThatUs right, *non-Israelites* who
fallaciously claim to be *Israelites*:
     RI know. . . The blasphemy by those who say they are Jews [i.e., Judahites,
thus Israelites] and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan.S  (Revelation 2:9)
     Also, how many Christians have been told that there is actually a people
who admit to being these impostors?  For example, TThe 1980 Jewish AlmanacUsU
first chapter entitled RIdentity Crisis,S begins with the following admission:
     RStrictly speaking, it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a TJewU or
to call a contemporary Jew an TIsraeliteU or a THebrew.US (4)
     This fact is confirmed by several other Jewish sources and individual Jews.
For example:  The Jewish Encyclopedia (1905); The Standard Jewish Encyclopedia
(1966); Nathan M. Pollock, Professor of Medieval Jewish History of Tel Aviv;
Bernard Lazare; Robert Quillan; Dr. Benjamin Freedman; Arthur Koestler; James
Yaffe; Paul Meyer and many more.
     Dr. Oscar Levy went so far as to declare:
     RAnd are not they [todayUs Jews] the inventors of the Chosen People myth?S
(5)

     Why hasnUt Christendom and the American public been told that over 90
percent of the people known as RJewsS are *not* descendants of Abraham, Isaac
and Jacob?  History reveals they are actually descendants of the fierce Turkish,
Mongolian Khazar tribes which roamed the steppes of southern Russia and who
adopted the religion of Judaism between the 7th and 9th Centuries.  Today, the
Khazars are known as RJewsS not because of race, but because of religion. (6)
     As stated, the Bible declares that there would be Israelite impostors,
these impostors have inadvertently or deliberately identified themselves by
their own writings.  Therefore, if RtheyS are not true Israel, someone else must
be!

TRUE ISRAEL

     God provided Scriptural clues for Identifying Israel of old.  There is no
debate that ancient Israel fulfilled most of these marks and was identified by
them.  But even more exciting is the fact that these very same features help us
to identify Israel today!  Listed below are fifteen national, geographical and
spiritual aspects out of hundreds of Scriptural clues that positively identify
Israel.  Ask yourself, what modern-day people do they identify?

5 NATIONAL ASPECTS

-  Israel was to become a great and mighty nation.
   (Genesis 12:1-3
-  Israel was to become a vast multitude of people.
   (Genesis 22:17)
-  Israel was to form a multitude of nations.
   (Genesis 17:4-6)
-  Israel was to rule over other nations.
   (Deuteronomy 15;6)
-  Israel was to be a blessing to all nations.
   (Genesis 22:18)

5 GEOGRAPHICAL ASPECTS

-  Israel was to have a new home, other than Canaan Land.
   (2 Samuel 7:10)
-  IsraelUs new land was to be inhabited by people gathered from many nations.
   (Ezekiel 38:8)
-  Israel was to have a land of unwalled villages, without walls, bars or gates.
   (Ezekiel 38:11)
-  Israel was to have a land of great agricultural wealth.
   (Deuteronomy 28:8-11)
-  IsraelUs land was described as being the Rcamp of the saints.S 
   (Revelations 20:7-9)

5 SPIRITUAL ASPECTS

-  Israel was to have a new religion and be saved by YHWH (the LORD).
   (Jeremiah 31:7,31-37).
-  Israel was to carry the gospel to all the world.
   (Isaiah 49:3-6)
-  Israel was to be the only nation given GodUs Law.
   (Psalm 147:19-20)
-  Israel was to be blind for the most part to her identity.
   (Isaiah 42:16-19)
-  Israel was to be called by a new name. 
   (Isaiah 62:1,2)

     If Israel exists today, as she must, there is only one people whom all
these identifying marks fit -- and they certainly do not represent the
modern-day RJews.S  They do however, describe perfectly the Anglo-Saxon, Celtic,
Germanic, Scandinavian, and kindred peoples; the multitude of nations who became
a great nation, with a new home, a new religion, and who have blessed the world
with the gospel of Yahshua and numerous other blessings.
     Indeed, Alfred Lilienthal (a RJewS) understood what most Celto-Saxons do
not:  Many Christians have much more Hebrew-Israelite blood in their veins than
do their modern self-styled RJewishS neighbors.

CONCLUSION

     The Prophet Isaiah spoke of a time in his future when Rthe eyes of those
who see will not be blinded, and the ears of those who hear will listen, and the
mind of the hasty will discern truth.S  (Isaiah 32:3,4)  It is the purpose of
this short tract to assist in the continual fulfillment of IsaiahUs prophecy in
regard to the true identity of Israel.  We have very briefly demonstrated and
provided evidence for the following three facts:

-  God *has* a New Covenant plan for physical Israel today.

-  TodayUs RJewsS *are not* Israelites, but instead impostors.

-  The Celto-Saxon peoples *are* Israelites, the true descendants of Abraham,
Isaac, and Jacob.

     You now have the rest of the story, the true story concerning IsraelUs
modern-day identity; it is up to you what you do with it.  It is our prayer that
IsaiahUs prophecy will be fulfilled in you, and that you will do your part in
awakening other Israelites to their identity, and to their responsibility to God
as His people.

BIBLIOGRAPHY:

1 - Alfred M. Lilienthal, Jr., RWhat Price IsraelS (Chicago: Henry Regnery
Company, 1953) 223
2 - Dr. Ed Moore, RThe Last TrumpS (January/February, 1991) 7
3 - Leonard C. Lee, RClouds Over AmericaS (Washington: Review and Herald
Publishing Association, 1948) 71
4 - RThe Jewish AlmanacS, Compiled and Edited by Richard Siegel and Carl Rheins
(New York: Bantam Books, 1980) 3
5 - Dr. Oscar Levy, preface, RThe World Significance of the Russian Revolution,S
George Pitt Rivers (Oxford, England: Basil Blackwell, 1920) vi
6 - Arthur Koestler, RThe Thirteenth TribeS (New York: Random House, Inc., 1976)

For a more exhaustive study regarding IsraelUs modern-day identity, write:

Mission To Israel Ministries
PO Box 248
Scottsbluff, NE 69363


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