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kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC) wrote:
>In article <4mnlpv$ee@news.ios.com>, Ron  wrote:
>>Of course you censored the word Talmud. You a shit head how kisses the 
>>ass of you masters.
>
>Really, Mr. Schmid - it is high time you took your medication.
>
>Reality Check:
>
>talmud talmud talmud talmud talmud talmud talmud talmud
>talmud talmud talmud talmud talmud talmud talmud talmud
>talmud talmud talmud talmud talmud talmud talmud talmud
>talmud talmud talmud talmud talmud talmud talmud talmud
>
>Aloha.
>
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Just what is your point ?



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From: Tammy Chung 
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qut@netcom.com (Dave Harman) wrote:
>In <1996May8.054302.19169@wpg.ramp.net> Joe Lockhart  writes:
>
>!I realize you have stated to me that you will not speculate as to why
>!CISI considers Ernst Zundel a 'threat' to national security, but I would
>!like for you to tell the world why a man like Ernst Zundel deserves
>!to be kicked out of a country and sent to a German prison because
>!he may not believe in the victors' version of the Second World War?
>!
>!You stated:
>!
>!"Ernst Zundel is, Canadians hope, about to receive a special
>!gift from the Canadian government: An absolutely free, one-way
>!trip to Germany. Isn't that wonderful? Ingrid can send us
>!PrisonGrams!"
>!
>!Who are these Canadians? (other than the CJC, Bnai Brith etc)
>!Did you ask whom? Who said they want Ernst Zundel kicked out of Canada?
>!
>!What crime has Mr.Zundel committed worthy of such treatment?
>!
>!Now you told me in the past that you believed in free speech.
>!You and I both know as one human to another, that nobody deserves
>!to be kicked out of a country for being unpopular, or not P.C.
>!Perhaps you don't want to 'speculate' because then McVay you may just
>!have to own up to the fact that something very rotten is happening to a man
>!that has never harmed a fly. This would endanger your secure 'retirement.'
>!
>!Does a man deserve to go to prison because he doesn't believe in the
>!Holocaust (tm)?
>!
>!The European Christian Defence League
>!P.O. Box 345 Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
>!R3C 2H6 (204) 775-0878
>
>The biggest lie ever told by Ken Mcvay is
>that he is against censorship.
>
>
>Maybe I can call one of my relitive in Red China to see if they could get Ken a job there. The man claims to fight Nazis because th=
eir evil. Then he acts like the very evil he says he's against.

Tammy
>




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Mike Ferguson  wrote:
>Ron  wrote:
>>
>> Jesus was not a Jew(Khaza). He was pure ans you sir a filth. This is 
>>anothe example of you Talmud teachings. Christ was not a Rabbi. In John
>>ch 8:41-45 he makes clear you Jews are of Satan and that he rejects your 
>>sick teachings. 
>>
>Actually, Jesus didn't have much to say to the Jews.

 Actually he did. He called them vipers and in John 8:41-45 said they 
 were not of God. 


  He said "give up 
>your wealth".  He also said "no longer eye for eye".  That is all. 

No not quite. He told Christians to give up there man focus on wealth and 
aslo to carry swords.  

 The
>problem was that the Jews did not believe what he said because the 
>Old testament said nothing would change.

 The problem was that Jews knew what he said was right and whould cause
 a revolt against their cast-slave system.

>
>Jewish people are the most religious and the best people in the world.
 
 Why would someone who is not of an ethnic group think that another    
group was the best people in the world ? Self haye maybe ?
  
>I'm not Jewish, but I would be proud to be.  Their families are loving,
>their communities strong.

 And as evil to non Jews as they can get away with.
>
>Who the hell are you?  How could Jesus reject the Old Testament, freak?
>
>Mike Ferguson, mocking the Nazi.
>
>Answers to some questions, anyone?
>http://www.connect.ab.ca/~bigmanm/okey.htm
>




From Tchung@24hy.singpor.nt Tue May 14 05:03:15 PDT 1996
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roth1@ix.netcom.com(Moritz Rothschild ) wrote:
>In <4msguv$rs1@news.ios.com> Bill  writes: 
>>
>>schwartz@infinet.com (Sara aka Perrrfect) wrote:
>>>In article <4mnnao$30q@news.ios.com>, Ron  wrote:
>>>
>>>> 
>>>>   No Christ was not a Rabbi. In John ch 8;41-45 he reject the Jews
>and
>>>>   states they are the evil. He also calls Jews Vipers.
>>>
>>>No Ron... JOHN says it. Not Christ. JOHN.

   No Hilda....John is not a lier. Jesus also rejects the Jews in other 
parts of the NT. 

>>> 
>>>If there was a book of CHRIST, written by CHRIST, you could say
>Christ
>>>said it. But it's in JOHN, which makes it heresay.

No Hilda your calling John a lier is heresay.

>>> 
>>>Jesus was a Jew. No Hilda he was a Hebrew. Jews Are not of the seed of 
   Abraham. 



Born a Jew. Circumcized.  How do you know he was circumcized ?


 Mar Mitzvahed. How do you know this ?


Went to
>>>synagogue. And spoke out against what was going on inside.



 Seders. No seders none !


 The whole nine yards.
>>> 
>>>Deal with it.
>>
>> Sara are saying John is a lier ?  Jesus was not a Jew,he rejected
>their 
>>traditions.
>
>Jesus did not reject them, John rejected them.(H) The principals Jesus
 taught are very different than the principals of the Jews. Jesus did 
reject the Jewishtraditions.
>
>
> His principals are very different than that of the Jews. As 
>>far as ethnic back ground he. He was a Hebrew. Mose modern Jews are
>not.
>>They come from the Khaza people. This is backed up by medical science
>and 
>>DNA proof. So deal with it ! 
>
>Please state your proof. 

 He is right about the DNA proof. If you as a Jew ever needed a bone 
marrow transplant,you would have to go to another Khaza. Other Semites 
are not compatable.

 If you know the history of the Khasars then
>you know that the group disappeared almost as quickly as it appeared.

 This is not true. There is a UL you can go to 
http://acad.brynt.edu/~kbrook/khazaria.html
 
>Most of its people were absorbed into the surrounding peoples and its
>Judaism difussed.  Much more likely is that some of Eastern Europeons
>who now practice Eastern Christianity or Islam  may have had a distant
>ancester who happened to follow the Jewish religion than Jews today
>have a distant Khasar relative. 

 Then please explain the medical evidence  I stated ? 

 The idea is ridiculous thought up by
>an antisemite who wants to deprive Jews of a State.

No the writer who wrote the 13th tripe was Jewish and as for the Jewish 
state. All the physical desciptions in the Bible prove that the country 
Israel is not the real Israel.

>Hilda
>>
>




From Tchung@24hy.singpor.nt Tue May 14 05:03:16 PDT 1996
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roth1@ix.netcom.com(Moritz Rothschild ) wrote:
>In <4msh30$rs1@news.ios.com> Bill  writes: 
>>
>>Chuck Ferree  wrote:
>>>Chuck wrote:
>>>
>>>Enough of this foolishness! You are sick...get help before it's too 
>>>late.
>>>
>>>Ron wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> qut@netcom.com (Dave Harman) wrote:
>>>> >In <3189216C.3D22@yz.org> X  writes:
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> >!> >>Christ was a Jew
>>>> 
>>>>       Christ was not a Jew(Khaza)
>>>
>>>Oh yes Christ was born a Jew and died(murded by the Pharisee) a Jew!
>>>
>>>If you can't prove it, don't write it!
>>>
>>>Chuck
>>
>> Christ was not a Jew. He rejected the traditions of the Jews and to 
>>prove it read the Bible. 



>I think it is time for you to see a psychotherapist.  Quick  before it
>is too late.  In fact you don't even know your own religion alas
>Hilda>
>
 Now Hilda just because someone disagrees with you dose not make them 
crazy. As far as knowing his own religion,please give it up. He is 100%
right. There are a lot of Christians how don't by into the bastarized 
Judaeo-Christian nonsence.




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kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC) wrote:
>In article <4mnm6s$ee@news.ios.com>, Ron  wrote:
>
>>libwca@curly.cc.emory.edu (william c anderson) wrote:
>
>>>Dave (abh@@hpl.com) wrote:
>
>>To the non Jews out there reading this. This Jew is playing games. Read 
>>the protocols for yourself. http://www.pixi.com/~bewise
>
>Ah, yes, Bewise.... it took them about six months to remove
>the lies they had reproduced from the Zundelpress... great
>place for, er, reliable data.

 I read the bewise post and it is well reasoned. 

>
>>>: How come all of the major international bankers are Jewish ? 
>
>>>They aren't.
>
>> They are so. The big ones are mosstly owned by the Rothschils.
>
>The largest bank in the world is....? The world bank and yes it is Jewish controled.


(What, you don't KNOW?)
>The second largest is.....? The IMF and that too is Jewish controled.


(What? You don't know that one
>either?)  I do so whats your point ?
>
>Come back and play when you have some accurate data, junior.

 Itwould be nice if you had some accurate data yourself Mr. McVay.
>
>> Wich is the wall of king Harold the baby killer
>
>"Wich?"

  I noticed you avoided the point. His English dose not make him wrong.
 His point is valid !
 

 Must be a real bright young nazi, eh? Advice: Go back
>to elementary school, finish English, bribe someone to get
>into high school, learn how to (1) read, (2) spell, and (3)
>punctuate, then come back and try again. Your education is
>clearly inadequate when it comes to rational conversation.

 Now that is the hight of hypocracy ! You have yet to reason.

>
>> To all the non Jews out there read just what Talmud contents Dave was 
>>talking about. http://www.pixi.com/~bewise and lets see the Jews and scum 
>>like Mcvay answer why the support such evil people.
>
>Be more specific, Junior. Let's see a few of these gems so we
>can address your claims.... citing bewise isn't the brightest
>thing to do.
>
 Again I say say,the Bewise post is very well done. Lets see if you could 
out debate them Mr.McVay. 

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kathleen@teleport.com (Kathleen Mulhern) wrote:
>In article <4msute$itb@moe.cc.emory.edu>,
>   libwca@curly.cc.emory.edu (william c anderson) wrote:
>>: kathleen@teleport.com (Kathleen Mulhern) wrote:
>>
>>: >Wait... what am I thinking... they don't even know the name of the 
>king 
>>: >Mary, Joseph and Jesus fled from... how would I expect them to know 
>silly 
>>: >things like historical fact?( Considering history is full of BS from 
>all sides,who can you call it fact ? )  
>>
>>Sure they do, Kathleen--it's King Harold the Babue Killer.  Everybody
>>knows that.
>
>Ahhh yes... I remember now... sitting in Sunday School and listening 
>to all the tales about Jesus, Mary and Joseph fleeing from King Harold the 
>Babue Killer.  Thanks for pointing this out!  What was I thinkin'?!?  ;-)
>
>----
>--kathleen@teleport.com
>
>"I have no respect for a man who can
>only think of one way to spell a word."
>	-Andrew Jackson
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It's King Harold the BABY killer. His point is valid !



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hkatz@usa.net (Harry Katz) wrote:
>In <4m901f$hfk@shiva.usa.net>, my sig read:
>
>        Men should thank God alike for evil and for good.
>                -- The Wit and Wisdom of the Talmud, Madison C. Peters, ed.
>
>
>Dave Harman (qut@netcom.com) demonstrates his maturity by changing the
>subject line to "Has Hairy Cats..."  I guess I have not run into that
>particular jest since the third grade, but -- believe it or not -- it is
>still Mr. Whoreman's most persuasive argument!
>
> 
>        Harry is always quoting from some handbook or other,...
>
>This only demonstrates how perceptive Mr. Whoreman really is!  He has not
>noticed that "some handbook or other" is actually only one book, and it is
>always the same one:
>
>        The Wit and Wisdom of the Talmud, Madison C. Peters, ed.
>
>The reason I use this particular book is that the editor is not Jewish. 
>Unfortunately, the editor does not provide page references to the Talmud
>itself for any of his citations.
>
>
>        ...but has he ever even read any part of the Talmud?
>
>Yes, in the original Aramaic, but that was long ago.
>
>
>        Does he have his own copy, or does he only look at
>        it beneath the rabbi's shoulders?
>
>I found a copy at the local college library.
>
>But what is abundantly clear is that Mr. Whoreman has never seen a copy,
>and only knows of its existence through

 anti-Semitic (correction anti Khaza) 



tracts and
>pamphlets.  That is why he characterizes the Peters book as a "handbook"
>-- he is projecting.
>
>-- 
>Harry Katz




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kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC) wrote:
>Archive/File: people/p/prutschi.manuel/bigotrys-fellow-travellers
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>
>Source: Currents, Vol. 6, No. 2. October 1990, pg. 8.
>Published by the Urban Alliance on Race Relations, Toronto.
>
>Hate Groups and Bigotry's Fellow Travellers
>By Manuel Prutschi
>
>Last summer, on Canada Day, John Beattie held a "whites
>only" rally in Minden. The staging of such a rally should
>not have surprised us; rather than constituting a new
>phenomenon, it formed part of a continuum in the activity of
>organized hate groups in this country.
>
>John Beattie, in his own personal history, illustrates how
>the rally did not surface suddenly, in a vacuum; Beattie,
>after all, is not a newly emergent hate group leader. Though
>he has been quiescent for a number of years, he was
>prominent in the 1960's when Toronto was going through a
>noticeable phase of neo-nazi activism.
>
>Hate groups and what I have chosen to call "bigotry's fellow
>travellers" fall into one or another of five general
>categories:
>
>Nazi/Neo-Nazi  Groups
>
>To those that fall under this category, Adolf Hitler was the
>archetypal leader and the Nazi Third Reich the ultimate
>utopia. John Beattie is of this type, but the person who
>perhaps epitomizes it is John Ross Taylor.
>
>Taylor began his career in association with Adrian Arcand
>who, in the 1920's, founded an out-and-out Nazi party in
>Quebec. He also tried to create a trans-Canadian Nazi party,
>and Taylor played an important organizational role in
>furthering such initiatives. Taylor subsequently broke with
>Arcand, switching to the Canadian Union of Fascists.
>
>More recently Taylor is best known for having operated a
>dial-a-racist-message telephone service for the white
>supremacist Western Guard. The recordings, which ran for
>years since 1973, attacked Jews, blacks, and other
>minorities.
>
>Also aptly belonging in this category is Ernst Zundel, who
>became notorious as a holocaust denial propagandist. Zundel
>denies that the holocaust ever took place, characterizing it
>as a Jewish politco-financial swindle. Zundel's purpose in
>denying the holocaust is to whitewash the Nazis, the Third
>Reich, and Hitler. It should therefore not surprise us to
>learn that Zundel is the co-author of a book called _The
>Hitler We Loved and Why_. Apart from being anti-Jewish, the
>book is anti-black in particular, and anti-non-white in
>general. In his praise of Hitler, Zundel is simply echoing
>the sentiment of Arcand at whose feet he learned. Arcand the
>Nazi leads right into Zundel the neo-Nazi.
>
>White Supremacists
>
>In the ideology of white supremacy the world revolves
>entirely around race. Race is the prism through which the
>world in its entirety is viewed. Society is to be ordered in
>accordance with the dictates and the needs of the
>white/Aryan race, and note that skin pigmentation does not
>in and of itself define white Aryans. Jews, whatever their
>colour, are seen as part of the racial enemy.
>
>The Ku Klux Klan is an organization which very much comes to
>mind when one speaks of white supremacy, but if one wants to
>look at white supremacy in more detail, especially as it has
>manifested itself in Toronto, no better example can be
>provided than the activity of Donald Clarke Andrews.
>
>Andrews first surfaced in the later 1960's as a member in
>the small "c" conservative Edmund Burke Society. Though it
>quickly degenerated into a racist organization, it was not
>sufficiently extremist for Andrews. Leading a secessionist
>group in the early 1970's Andrews organized the Western
>Guard.
>
>The Western Guard defaced synagogues and other Jewish and
>non-Jewish institutions, and distributed hate literature. A
>United church was smeared with graffiti because United
>Church headquarters had "collaborated" with communists.
>Bethune College, at York University, was defaced because it
>honoured Norman Bethune, whose politics the Guard did not
>like. Members of the Western Guard also set fire to the
>house of a librarian who was living with a black man.
>
>Subsequent to the Western Guard, Andrews founded the
>Nationalist party. Under his leadership the party pursued a
>white supremacist program as articulated in its on-going
>publication, _The Nationalist Report_.
>
>_The Nationalist Report_ contended that there was a
>conspiracy aimed at overthrowing the white race through the
>imposition on Aryan society of persons of black, Indian,
>Pakistani, and Vietnamese origin. The way to counteract this
>anti-white conspiracy, Nationalist party materials
>suggested, was to keep non-whites separate from Aryans, to
>stop the immigration of all Asians and blacks, and to
>repatriate those already in Canada to their supposed areas
>of origin. Blacks were the object of particular vitriol, and
>the material was also anti-Semitic.
>
>Theologians of Hate
>
>Their ideology is thoroughly rooted in religion; they view
>modern society as atheistic, secular, materialistic, and
>immoral. In this they perhaps do not differ from certain
>more mainstream religious critiques except that, for the
>theologian of hate, the Jews (who are portrayed as
>synonymous with Satan) are held responsible for all social
>ills. The world is engaged in total war between good and
>evil, Christianity and Judaism; though invariably Christian,
>they have twisted Christian teaching to create their own
>perverted and perverse conceptualization.
>
>The two most notorious examples of Canadian theologians of
>hate are James Keegstra in Alberta, and Malcolm Ross in New
>Brunswick. It is valuable to know that Keegstra began his
>hatemongering career as an anti-Catholic and anti-black. As
>Professor Stanley R. Barrett has written in his book _Is God
>a Racist?_ "the nature of Keegstra's message changed over
>the years. Whereas anti-Catholicism originally informed his
>teaching, he eventually began to introduce negative  views
>about blacks, and finally became an overt anti-Semite."
>
>Aryan Nations
>
>Originating in the United States, Aryan Nations is an
>umbrella organization for a number of groups of relatively
>recent vintage. Ideologically it is a synthesis of the
>theology of hate and white supremacy, decked out in the
>trappings of Nazism. Referring to itself as the Church of
>Jesus Christ Christian, it is part of what has become known
>as the Identity Movement. It holds that the British, German,
>Scandinavian, and American people, rather than the Jews, are
>the real Israel, hence the term "identity" because they are
>the ones truly identical with Israel. Contemporary Jews are
>seen as impostors, in no way connected with the people of
>Israel of Biblical times.
>
>The aim of Aryan nations is to establish an independent, all-
>white, all-Christian, Aryan-governed nation-state carved out
>of the northwestern United States and western Canada. A
>principle Ayran Nations connection in Canada is Terry Long,
>who operates out of Alberta as Canada's "High Aryan Warrior
>Priest."
>
>Terry Long, emulating John Ross Taylor, set up a dial-a-
>racist-message telephone service. The three-minute message
>promoted white supremacy, was abusive towards blacks,
>Pakistanis, Jews, and other minorities, and warned that an
>immigration policy allowing non-whites was tantamount to
>"national suicide."
>
>Ultra Conservative Tending Towards Racist
>
>These groups subscribe to an extreme chauvinism and
>xenophobia; they have an automatic dislike for foreigners.
>The nation which is the object of their patriotism is a
>rather exclusive club made up of individuals who are
>British, or northern European, preferably monarchist,
>Christian (essentially Protestant Christian), and white.
>Unlike the groups in the other categories, their racism is
>not advanced as overtly; racism is more-or-less masked, and
>promoted through their advocacy of issues which they put
>forward as of national concern. They are bigotry's fellow
>travellers.
>
>The Canadian League of Rights, led by Ron Gostick, provides
>the most durable, if not the primary example of an
>organization falling under this category. It is from
>headquarters (formerly in Flesherton, Ontario and now in
>High River, Alberta) that all the League's material, much of
>it offensive, is mailed to points across Canada. Jim
>Keegstra got most of his reading material through his
>membership in the League. The League also promotes the
>writings of Malcolm Ross..
>
>One of the strategies of groups in this category is to plug
>themselves into issues which find a positive resonance in
>certain segments of the broader community. The opposition to
>bi-lingualism and the extension of French-language services
>is one example. In Ontario we find the Canadian League of
>Rights linking itself to such movements as the Alliance for
>the Preservation of English in Canada (or A.P.E.C.).
>
>Another individual who very much belongs in this category is
>Paul Fromm. Fromm was a co-founder of the Edmund Burke
>Society, and today he heads two institutes: the Canadian
>Association for Free Expression (C.A.F.E.) and Citizens for
>Foreign Aid Reform (C-FAR). Fromm has latched onto the
>freedom of speech issue, defending the rights of hatemongers
>to free expression, but not repudiating their views and
>portraying them as martyrs, victims of a witch hunt.
>
>C-FAR is opposed to most foreign aid and favours a
>restrictive immigration policy. A few months ago in
>Vancouver, as reported in a _Globe and Mail_ column, Fromm
>told an audience "that a foreign invasion would be
>preferable to the city's current influx of Asian
>immigrants."
>
>Another example of an organization which fits into this
>category is the Canadian Freedom of Speech League. It lists
>as general counsel none other than Doug Christie, the lawyer
>acting for Keegstra, Zundel, Taylor,  and Ross. The editor
>and publisher of its newsletter _Friends of Freedom_ is a
>close Christie associate. Like Fromm's C.A.F.E., this
>organization promotes an agenda aimed at undermining our
>multicultural democracy under the cover of freedom of
>expression.
>
>Clearly the lines between the above categories are often
>blurred, and there is a great deal of cross-fertilization
>among individuals and groups. As well such groups rarely, if
>ever, exclusively target a single minority, rather they make
>victims of us all.
>
>Members of hate groups, or those I have labeled "bigotry's
>fellow travellers" are not merely content with carrying out
>their activities on the periphery. They very consciously
>involve themselves in our political process. Zundel ran for
>the leadership of the federal Liberal party in 1968 (Pierre
>Trudeau won that contest); Andrews has repeatedly vied for
>municipal office, and Keegstra ran for Social Credit in the
>1984 federal election. Fromm, in this last federal election
>ran in Mississauga East for the Confederation of Regions
>party; and Christie, a vigorous advocate of western
>separatism, founded the Western Canada Concept party, and
>has run twice in federal election contests as an
>independent.
>
>Apart from pursuing a conscious political course, a number
>of those we have referred to have undertaken a program to
>recruit youth to their cause. Obviously they have made some
>inroads among certain skinhead youths. Andrews clearly has a
>retinue of such youths around him, as does Fromm, and both
>of them have publicly prided themselves in their role of
>politically educating these young people. Beattie also seems
>to have targeted such alienated youth for recruitment. A
>number of these skinheads out of Ottawa have even begun to
>put together a racist newsletter.
>
>In 1982, on a sunny mild Sunday afternoon in May, hundreds
>of people starting out of Greenwood Park paraded by the
>Toronto Ku Klux Klan headquarters on Dundas Street near
>Logan  Avenue. The parade was part of the all-day Riverdale
>community festival against the Klan, organized by the
>Riverdale Action Committee Against Racism. The co-ordinator
>of the festival, in addressing participants, is reported as
>"noting that the Klan's targets included Jews, Catholics,
>blacks, Chinese, trade unionists, social reformers,
>homosexuals, and women fighting for their rights."
>
>Practically at the same time, some distance away, five
>hundred members of the Jewish community, many of them
>holocaust survivors, were protesting in front of the
>headquarters of Ernst Zundel on Carlton Street. Their
>protest was the culmination of a march that had started out
>at Allen Gardens. Sixteen years earlier, almost to the day,
>on May 30, 1965, Jewish activists successfully disrupted a
>John Beattie-led neo-nazi rally at the same location.
>
>What is surprising and startling is that two major anti-
>racism rallies were taking place on the very same day, at
>virtually the same time, not all that far from each other,
>and yet each carried on separately. For whatever reason the
>fight against racism in Toronto was not as sufficiently well
>integrated as it might have been.
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 You did not mention the JDL or the hate you do. Destroying freedom of 
speech is a hate crime. It's hate against all humanity ! Trying to get 
someone locked for speech is as hateful as you get. So be sure and add
the Nizkor Project to the list. 

Tammy




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