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Mr. Lemire also says he has been victimized by the authorities, who claim
that he taught a convicted international terrorist and cocaine smuggler how
to break into phone systems. (Mr. Lemire has not been arrested.) Mr. Lemire
counters that a government informant taught him, and that he was only
following orders. Read Mr. Lemire's side of the story at:
http://www.webcom.com/ezundel/english/sirc/affidavit_of_marc_lemire.html
ftp://www.nizkor.eye.net/pub/nizkor/people/l/lemire.marc/

June 30, 1996

Good Morning from the Zundelsite:


Today it is exactly half a year since I have started shooting Zundelgrams
out into cyberspace-which means that this is Zundelgram # 183.

Multiply that by an average of 4 hours, which is what it takes to compile
appropriate material and write, edit and post it-and those of you who were
on my original list have now received 732 hours of free advice on how to
restore ethnic pride the villains have stolen from you.

Is it worth it to you?  Apparently so, for my list just keeps swelling and
swelling.

Even more significantly, the hostile letters to the Zundelsite have
virtually disappeared.  We have a voice and presence now.  People realize
that we are not a bunch of skinheads burning churches but men and women of
notable distinction, substance and experience who have something worthwhile
to say to this old, battered world.

At the Zundel-Haus, initial preparations are underway for the $3.5 million
Sabina Citron Libel Suit.  The work on that one has barely begun.  I will
keep you informed as things progress and ripen.

Also, from Toronto comes a rather unpleasant piece of news - the sudden
server trouble of the Freedom Site, a kind of shelter site to house
politically incorrect thought.

According to Marc Lemire, the young man who operates the site, Pathway
Communications behaved as follows, and I quote:

Pathway Communications did not even bother to pick up the phone and either
confront me with these allegations of "offensive material" or tell me they
deleted my account
*       They will NOT leave a link to the new site
*       All my E-Mail that was being held on their system was deleted and
not returned to me
*       They did not give us any notice of cancelling our account
*       They did not give me a chance to remove any of the "offending" material
*       They will not return our HTML files being stored on their Web
server.  (They claim they would upload them to our BBS, but as of today....
nothing!"

It's scary, isn't it?  Marc has found another server, however.  It is now
http://www.ftcnet.com/~freedom.  Marc's new e-mail address is:
freedom@netcom.ca.

I did come across two interesting websites I would like for someone to
check out for me and give me some feedback.  One is the British National
Site at http://www.nationalist.org.   This site is known to some of you and
I have grazed it now and then, but I have never had the time to really
study it.

The other site is new but promising as well.  It comes out of the Midwest,
and its function is to house Revisionist materials-books, tapes, brochures
etc.-all in one place commercially.  The arrangement is going to be
drop-ship, as I understand it, and I think that is an excellent idea.  I
certainly would welcome it.  Please check it out as well.  It can be found
at http://www.smartnet.net/~fbooks.

Finally, to give you your little inspirational "Vitamin I" I thought I
would share with you a bit of irony.  This is a dated item, but still worth
a small smile.

Remember US citizen Hans Schmidt's arrest in Germany for four politically
incorrect words he had uttered-in the United States?  For that, the German
government incarcerated him for more than 5 months in one of Germany worst
prisons.

Here's what he wrote after he was released:

"On the last page of (the GANPAC) issue, I would like to mention samething
to laugh about:  Note the German postage stamp on the left.  (picture here)
Purely coincidentally, I am sure, it was issued at the time of my
incarceration.

Note the words on the left rim:  "Freiheit der Meinungsauberung," -"Freedom
of Expression" in German.

I immediately thought of embarrassing the German system with its own false
propaganda.

I bought as many stamps of this sort as possible-unfortunately, at that
very time every Deutschmark I spent for stamps came out of my "extra food"
allowance-and used them on my letters to my friends and supporters around
the world.

I pasted the stamps on the envelope in such a way that the commemorative
words were horizontally on the very top, and then wrote the words
"Commemorative issue for Hans Schmidt" in small letters to the left of it,
marking an arrow pointing toward the "Freedom of Expression" title.

And guess what:  By order of the court (actually, the prosecutor) some of
these "offending" envelopes were photocopied, and my sarcasm was noted as a
serious offense, namely ". . . ridiculing the German political system".

Amazing, isn't it?  How will it end?  Not by itself, you may be sure.  We
have GOT to work harder for a solution to stop the Modern KGB.


Thought for the Day:

"Necessity is the argument of tyrants;  it is the creed of slaves."

(William Pitt the Younger, 1759-1806)



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How nice.

All of the Zundelgrams can be authenticated by visiting Ingrid's web site,
http://www.webcom.com/ezundel/english/ZGRAMS/000.TOC.html

For some months, Ingrid has been urged to post the ZGrams herself, but she
will not do so.

If you notice any discrepancies other than 8-bit umlaut filtering between
the ZGrams as posted here and as posted on the official Zundelsite run by
Ingrid Rimland and Marc Lemire, please do not hesitate to point them out.

In response to your concerns that people who cannot read beyond the
second grade level might confuse ezundel@alpha.c2.org with Ingrid's
real email address (note that Zundel himself has no email address), we
will post under the address zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org in the future.
Both addresses will work for incoming email.

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As an experiment, today's Zundelgram is posted immediately and fully
automatically, not just unmodified but unread by any human being. Since we
have made no disparaging comments, please feel free to follow up with some
of your own.  One of these days the E. Zundel Repost Team will have an AI
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there will be peace on earth, and pigs will fly...



Copyright (c) 1996, (Ingrid A. Rimland).  All rights reserved.
You may put the ZGram on your web site or distribute it without charge as
long as you check
with the Zundelsite (http://www.webcom.com/ezundel/english) and add:
E-Mail:   so readers
can respond.  Thank you!


July 1, 1996

Good Morning from the Zundelsite:


One of the Censorship Busters sent me the following with the comment:
"Germany seems to be at it again."

The excerpt itself is titled "Good Night Germany."  I assume it is a
translation from a newspaper or press release article, because some of the
syntax is a bit clumsy, but you will get the drift:

"There has been a new telecommunications law for Germany passed today.
Besides some other problematic passages, there is a paragraph 85 and 87
that says that all online and telekom service providers (also internet and
mailboxes) should provide a backdoor for state officials to get access to
the data of their users (addresses, kind of services they are using).

Provider companies have so far only protested because they themselves
should cover the costs for providing the technical structure for the state
office to collect the data. Further(more), it should be set up in a way
that the state has access to this data "anytime" and without the provider
being able to notice it or to notify the users that their data are
collected.

A new state office will be founded to "operate" this service for other
state offices, called "Regulationsbehoerde".

'Nobody seems to be concerned with privacy or what is called in Germany
<>. In a broader public there has so far been only one article
in Die Zeit, and yesterday night a report on ZDF tv "Kennzeichen D".

Now some resistance is forming slowly in newsgroups. Nico Reichelt has set
up a page at the institute for new media in Frankfurt:
http://www.inm.de/people/nico/tkg.html

As the wave of resistance is building up, . . . Nico has a problem with his
small server getting too many hits, since it is only a small server on a
64kbit line. The info that he provides should be mirrored on other servers.


This is definitely an issue for some action. An article on telepolis will
be out tomorrow. http://www.heise.de/tp

Isn't it strange: Many people in Germany seemed to be concerned with the
CDA but with something much worse in their own country nobody (or better:
not many people so far) is doing anything about it.

Also on nettime there is silence about this case."

Here ends the notice that was sent to me.  Simultaneously with this
information, I received a little news clip from a related source.  This
fellow did not give me permission to quote from the entire text of an
article that is entitled "The Price of Freedom."  So I will have to
paraphrase.

The gist of it is that, at least in America, the Constitution still has
power.  When the three-judge panel in Philadelphia recently declared the
Commucations Decency Act unconstitutional, the effect of it was, according
to this article,

". . .  a swift and brutal civics lesson to Congress: You can't  treat the
Constitution like a rough draft. . .  The price tag for that little romp
through constitutional law is likely to amount to more than US$2 million."

He then goes on to say that although

". . . $2 million is a small price to pay for securing  First Amendment
rights in cyberspace, if Congress had its  collective head screwed on
right, the money would not  have been spent in the first place. . . .

It needs to be said that this $2 million is a "soft"  number, meaning it
wasn't cut and pasted from the bottom  line of a few spreadsheets.

Rather, it was dragged, cajoled, and extrapolated over the course of a
three-week  investigation that included more than two dozen  interviews
with government and private sources, along with the study of dozens of
government documents."

I had asked him very nicely if I could quote the entire text.
In response to my query, he wrote me back:

"No, you can't use that much of the text.   You have my story, paraphrase
it, but it you use that much word for word, it's a copyright violation.

But you're free to take the figures and explain what I wrote in your own words.

Also, Zundel had nothing to do with the "whole CDA mess" where the hell did
you get that?"

This is a person I do not know, but I assume that he was "in" on the entire
cyberspace drama that started at the beginning of this year with a New York
Times article, January 10,  in response to an Ernst Zundel fax sent January
8th, putting the SWC on notice that we were going to have what we then
called the Cyberspace "Holocaust Debate" with Nizkor.

So I will tell him in my own words because he hasn't yet caught on:

By his own estimate, the United States of America taxpayers have now doled
out an estimated $2 million-in a futile effort, as it turned out, thanks to
some pretty healthy instincts still operating on this Continent-to protect
the Dark Forces' Favorite Cash Cow, Germany, with not many any the wiser.

Ingrid


Thought for the Day:

"There is far greater peril in buying knowledge than in buying meat and drink."

Plato (427-347 ? B.C.)










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July 2, 1996

Good Morning from the Zundelsite:


Every once in a while, I get a not-so-veiled inquiry from someone in the
Opposition who is kind of spying on us by using a fake name asking if we
are spying on THEM-and, if so, what we have about THEM in our folders.

I always take great pains letting them know that those are not our ways.
We have far better things to do than to play Thought Spies-in-Action.

One of my correspondents feels that way, and here is what he wrote:

For some time I've been irritated at (disgusted by is more like it) the
Nizkor folks' penchant for collecting names and "incriminating" (in their
mind, and I use the singular with emphasis) statements. They use them to
compile dossiers of hate on the enemies of the New World Order.

This is done in the best tradition of steely-eyed ten year old minions of
grim revolutionary governments, listening in on conversations of the adults
with their little tablets and pencil in pocket, using their active young
imaginations to turn innocent statements into sentences of torture and
death for the unfortunate and unwitting--even if it be their parents.

I'm in there now, as all of you are or will be.

This practice is revolting in the extreme, but I've had a difficult time
finding words to adequately describe how I feel about it. I dwelt on it a
bit and then it occurred to me that it is a feature of practically every
totalitarian regime, and usually employs the young for the odious job of
listening to every conversation for a wrong word.

No one is immune. If they say the wrong thing, then like Abbe Pierre, there
is no recourse and a life of blameless devotion to worthy activities will
not serve to stay the retribution in the slightest way. Heresy knows no
absolution save recantation which will buy at most a knock-out drug before
the flames are lit at the stake.

I'd like to see a scathing comparison of the Nizkor hate file collection
(whatever they call it) to known instances of the same behavior in history.
Russia, especially following the Revolution; Mao's Red Guard; Cambodia's
pre-teens running the re-education camps and serving as willing
executioners; Eastern European German school children in Russian controlled
schools as Ingrid described in a recent Z-Gram; neighbors turning in
neighbors as consorts with the Devil during Inquisition and witch-burning
times. . . "

Of course it isn't just immature zeal.  If it were only that, we would not
need to worry.  It is much more serious than that, and I believe it is the
coming trend unless politically seasoned people object.

Some are already doing just that.  In an article entitled "Frontier
Justice" (Joel Snyder, Internet World, July issue, page 94-96) it says:

"Consider someone who. . . makes a public statement of some sort via a
newsgroup or mailing list.  With a few clicks of a mouse, any Internet
vigilante can twist a misinterpreted action or quote taken out of context
into a personal propaganda campaign.

Make your statement of objection eloquently enough and you can turn anyone
into a sinister figure, a threat to the existence of free speech, a menace
who should be attacked ad hominem and hounded from the electronic airwaves.
The Internet acts as judge, jury and executioner.

 . . arguments hold no sway with the vigilantes who have persecuted
intellectual opponents with zealous furor.  A single person doesn't have
the resources to make a fair defense against a dedicated personal attack
>from  many sources.  And such persecutions have the advantage of pandering
to many people who tend to believe the worst. . .

If, for example, some vigilante were to take this column as a threat to
something he holds dear, he could select quotes (out of context) make up a
few "facts" about my background and prior crimes, and have a personal
vendetta spread via a few dozen Usenet newsgroups and a similar number of
mailing lists between lunch and supper.  And it could take me hundreds of
hours to correct the wrong-if I ever could-because things like this have a
way of popping up weeks and months later. . . "

Sounds familiar?  I can't imagine a more odious and intellectually
offensive practice than to dig for dirt, real or imagined, in someone
else's private yard-unless you really have to in order to survive.


Ingrid

Thought for the Day:

"A fanatic goes through life with his mouth open and his mind closed."

(Peter's Quotations, page 196, paraphrased.)






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It was with immense disappointment that I heard it announced yesterday
that Ingrid's work had not been recognized with a Bulwer-Lytton Award. 

July 3, 1996

Good Morning from the Zundelsite:


At a time when millions across America now KNOW that there is very serious
doubt about the so-called "Holocaust", what does America's First Lady do?
She kisses up to it.

Yesterday, she went to visit Auschwitz.  According to an ANA report, she

". . . called the 'holocaust' a 'cold, rational evil' and said 'The lessons
of this place should never be forgotten . . .You can't even let up for a
minute on your condemning of extremism and intolerance'. . ."

She also opined that Bosnian genocide and the church burnings here in the
US  prove that "intolerance" still plagues the world.

Speaking on the 'holocaust,' Mrs. Clinton, borrowing from Mr. Elie Wiesel
style and substance, commented:

". . . I don't think anyone did enough. I don't think our country did
enough when we began to get more and more reports [of the camps]. But I
think it was difficult to do anything once the war started, other than to
win the war. . . "

She also mentioned us.  Of those who do not genuflect before the
"Holocaust", she said the following:

". . . I find it unbelievable that there would be people today who would
try to deny this terrible part of our human history. You have to be careful
of people who misuse history and deny evidence and twist facts for their
own ideological, political or personal purposes . . . "

Watch out for Ingrid, folks!  You never know about my ideological,
political or personal purposes.  I barely know about them myself!

I can surmise about the First Lady's, however.  In the upcoming election,
she'll NEED the Special Interests vote as well as their deep pockets.  Here
in America, these troubled days, it it is no longer only
"Whitewatergate"-as if that weren't bad enough!-but now "Filegate" as well!


Next page:  Surfing the Net yesterday, I came across the following German
page:  http://www.inm.de/people/nico/tkg.html.  It apparently belongs to
something like the American counterpart of the Censorship Busters that
started mirroring the Zundelsite when the Wiesenthalers got out their big
media guns.

I checked it out because I had received a rather stunning, very important
press release in German calling for dissemination and mirroring of material
that reported encroachment of Freedom of Speech in Germany (as if that were
still possible . . .! )  I wrote to the e-mail given, asking for permission
to post that press release in our German section.

Nope!  came the answer.  Not us!

In Germany, the Zundel taint is feared the way the Devil fears the Holy Water!

I know this hurt Ernst-that Germany is more lobotomized than any other
place on earth when it comes to knowing just who pulls the strings to which
the lackeys dance.  It isn't Ernst Zundel, believe me!

At any rate, I still want you to go and visit that website, even if you do
not understand a word of German.  Scroll down a screen, and marvel at an
image!  I cannot think of anything more powerful than to place it below the
quiet, blue ribbon-and what it came to signify!-when  youngsters half our
age born into cradles with computers across America said "NO" to the Simon
Wiesenthal Center's attempt on encroachment on Freedom of Speech!

On an altogether different topic, I don't know how many of you have
followed the Willem Ratte story in South Africa, but I am happy to report
that, after a hunger strike of 57 days, this hero of his people,
descendants of the valiant Boers, has been released from prison Saturday,
June 29.  I publicized his plight simply on the say-so of a friend in whom
I trust, without knowing anything about what the real issues were and what
goes on in that besieged and spiritually decimated country.  (Can't we all
guess, however?)

Here are a few details about Willem Ratte:

". . . The bail of Rand 1000 was paid by his friends and fellow Boer nation
members. The full amount was paid over to the authorities in 1 Rand and 2
Rand coin pieces.

Willem Ratte is now treated in a clinic in Pretoria. The date for the
appeal case hearing is set for 7 October.

He mentioned that the hunger strike was close to reaching the dangerous
point of no return. He says he is glad and relieved the hunger strike is
now over.

His wife was overjoyed to see him again for the first time after the day of
his imprisonment. She sat next to him in the ambulance that picked him up
at the Pretoria Central Prison. His eyes were filled with tears . . . "

Mine, too.

Ingrid

Thought for the Day:

"No witchcraft, no enemy action had silenced the rebirth of new life in
this stricken world.  The people had done it themselves."

(Rachel Carson, in The Silent Spring)











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Today is Rube Goldberg's birthday! In that spirit, an elaborate chain of
anonymous remailers brings you today's Zundelgram:

July 4, 1996

Good Morning from the Zundelsite:

Today, here in America, we are celebrating  the "Fourth-of-July," the
birthday and the most patriotic holiday of this country.  While we are
doing so in our back yards with our barbeques and our wading pools for our
little ones, our "democratic" neighbor to the North, Canada, is slowly but
surely sinking into chaos-largely thanks to goaded and, worse, publicly
supported, financed action of the Marxist mob.

Here is a sneak preview of how this is accomplished.  In an Open Letter to
the Council of the City of Toronto, a young Canadian, Marc Lemire, wrote
the following:

". . . I am writing you today to urge you to vote NO (on a government
grant) . . .  Over the past few weeks, I have personally faxed to your
office over 60 pieces of information on the antics of the ARA
(Anti-Racist-Action group) and some of the violent behaviour they have
exhibited.

I have proven without a doubt that these people are terrorists (who)
constantly break the law with little to no  worry of being prosecuted in
the courts. If you are going to vote yes to this grant, you not only are
funding one of the worst terrorists groups in Toronto's history, you are
giving Metro's OK to a rag-tag band of street punks who use terror and
mayhem to further their own personalities and agendas. . . "

Marc then goes on to summarize selected samples of the behavior of this grou=
p.

*       On November 13, 1992 about 125 members of Anti-Racist Action threw
eggs and insults at the windows of a restaurant which hosted the Heritage
=46ront for a meeting.  The Toronto Sun carried a photo of two Anti-Racist
Action members attacking a lone "Heritage Front supporter" after the
meeting. (Toronto Sun, November 14, 1992) The same Toronto Sun article goes
on to say "ARA members chanted 'run Nazi scum'  and 'garbage' at Front
members. Some swung picket signs and others chased rally goers down the
street, hurling obscenities".

*       On January 25, 1993 members of Anti-Racist Action ". . . threw
rocks, eggs and insults," according to CTV News that same evening.  The
Heritage Front was ordered to appear before the Canadian Human Rights
Commission and the ARA showed up to confront them.

The police stepped in and formed a protective ring around members of the
Heritage Front and escorted them into the Courthouse.

After the Heritage Front was inside, hearing the Human Rights Commissions
complaint, the ARA turned their anger on the police During the riot that
ensued with police and members of Anti-Racist Action, two police officers
were injured.

Members of Anti-Racist Action pelted the police with barrage after barrage
of eggs, rocks, paint and human excrement bombs.  Police horses were hit
numerous times in the eyes with rocks and other projectiles (The Police
Department later equipped the horses with special protective visors to
protect them)  CTV news that same evening showed clips of Anti-Racist
Action members attacking the Police Horses using sticks (and) eggs.  One
ARA member even threw his bicycle right at one horse.

*       On June 11, 1993  a rampaging mob of about 200 Anti-Racist Action
members stormed the home of the Heritage Front's hotline announcer Gary
Schipper, a political opponent of ARA.

During this protest, members of Anti-Racist action wore hoods and some wore
paper faces of Mr. Schipper. On the march to Mr. Schipper's house some of
the organizers of the march were pasting up stickers which listed the home
address of Mr. Schipper as well as a clear photograph of him.

During the violent attack that followed, ARA members threw paint bombs,
firecrackers, human excrement and bottles of urine.  Several of the crowd
jumped onto the porch of Mr. Schipper's house, smashed the windows and
threw paint balloons through the broken glass window.

During this riot, the ARA caused over $75,000 damage to the house itself
and ruined Mr. Schipper's bed, clothes and his office equipment, which was
in the direct path of incoming "Human Excrement Bombs".

*       On Sat., December 9, 1995 members of Anti-Racist Action attacked a
private meeting of a group called "Citizens for Foreign Aid Reform
(C-FAR)"-a group that protests out-of-control Third World immigration to
Canada.

During this attack, the group of masked Anti-Racist Action members spit at
meeting participants, threw milk on a table full of books and assaulted an
elderly lady by slapping her in the face.

When the owner came to ask the motley crew of vigilantes to leave, he was
spit at and verbally abused. After being kicked out of this meeting, the
ARA continued to pound on the glass window outside the restaurant and
harass customers of the restaurant.

*        On February 5, 1996, eighteen heavily armed members of Anti-Racist
Action attacked 3 people whom they assumed to be "Nazis".  Upon seeing the
three people sitting in Kennedy subway station, the Anti-Racist Action
members started verbally and physically harassing them.  (Jonathan
Kingstone article, Toronto Sun, Feb. 5, 1996)

While yelling and screaming, one Anti-Racist Action member hit one of the
victims with a steel pipe. Three people were stabbed and one had his
jugular cut, just barely escaping death.

The ARA is very keen on postering.  Posters put up at intervals have shown
various people's pictures, licence plates and home addresses the ARA claims
are "Hatemongers in the City".

=46oremost among their targets is Ernst Z=FCndel.  One poster, entitled
"Bored?" advocated the firebombing of Ernst Zundel's house on Carlton
Street-which, in fact, happened only months after the showing up of this
poster!

The direct result was a $400,000 fire that would have killed Ernst in his
fourth story bedroom, had he not been on a trip.  (It almost killed four
young renters living in the building to the right who had to jump naked out
of a window.)

This poster is a classic in mob audacity.  It shows Ernst' picture, a map
of the area around Mr. Zundel's house, an arrow to his house, and
directions on how to make a firebomb.  As if that were not enough, it shows
the picture of a man throwing a molotov cocktail with the inscription "Your
Picture Here".

Therefore, it stands to reason that Ernst Zundel, more than anybody else,
has ample cause to oppose the ARA.  For more than three years, posters of
him have appeared by the thousands all over Toronto, showing his face in
the cross hairs of a rifle.  When he asked for police action after ARA
members were seen and recognized by people on his team, the police refused
to even take down a complaint-much less act on it and arrest those who
advocated this arson and suggested assassination.

Now listen to this-and take it down carefully:

This unsavory group recently planned a three day conference (June 22-23)
financed by public monies-i.e., a a grant which Karen Mock of B'nai Brith
loudly supported.  The conference has since taken place.  Sabina Citron and
Karen Mock were featured speakers and panelists at that conference.  Among
many other things, it taught participants how to use stencils for illegal
graffiti and several pirate radio techniques, illegal as well.  The grant
objected to above by Marc Lemire, for which the ARA had previously applied
to the City Council, is assumed to off-set some of the costs of this
conference.

Before the Metro Toronto Council got to voting on this grant, Ernst had
written in an Open Letter:

". . . ARA is a violent, quasi-terrorist, anarchist group and has been so
documented by the press.

The ARA grant application is itself bizarre and highly unprofessional.
None of the three individuals listed as responsible for the conference have
street addresses or personal phone numbers.  All list their addresses as
PO Box 664, Station C, Toronto M5J 3S1 and their phone number as
416-631-8835.

Even more bizarre, the ARA, not being a non-profit organization, has had to
get a British Columbia group, the "Canadian Anti-Racism Education and
Research Society", to act as their financial trustee.  Interestingly, the
contact person, one Alan Dutton, is to be flown in all the way from British
Columbia, the other end of the country, to be one of the conference
speakers.  Dutton is a well-known West Coast leftist . . . "

You would have thought that such a "record" would have been a sufficient
deterrent for any responsible public official to throw this scum group
right out the door.  Not so. To his meek credit, one councillor, Fotinos,
introduced a timid amendment that the ARA ". . . come up with a list of
names of their officers and principles and their financial structures."
Others tried to to nail down the ARA to employ "only peaceful methods."

But little did that count.   After a day-long debate, The money allocated
to these punks was a nifty $8,000 of the $18,000 originally requested.  The
vote of your public servants was 22 councillors for the grant  and 8
against it-in other words, a vote of 3 to 1 in favor of street violence!

Wrote Ernst:

". . . Most of the ones who voted for the grant seem to think that if they
did not vote for the financing of this Marxist-anarchist bunch, they would
be considered "soft on Neo-Nazis."  All cloaked themselves in their
anti-racism rhetoric as if it were a mantra of magic incantation.

The most vicious and hateful were, predictably, Councillor Moscoe, who
wanted "violence opposed by violence" to "fight the Nazis to my last
breath." He made this statement, face contorted with hate, his voice
quivering with raw emotion.  Similarly, Councillor Layton, who was, as per
usual, all things to all men-homosexuals, lesbians, Blacks and Jews.

The other councillors were the typical mealy-mouthed, politically correct
snivelers, chasing after a little back-slapping from B'nai Brith and other
parasites feeding off the public trough.

The one interesting aspect of this whole ARA grant matter is what was
revealed about the intelligence sharing and cooperation between B'nail
Brith and the violence-prone ARA.  It is obvious to not a few that some of
the Jewish organizations have been using the ARA as their useful idiots and
cannon fodder-as I suspected all along.

Theyse people are now publicly identified as the protectors, promoters and
benefactors of the ARA.  Either they intended to elevate these Marxists, or
they are arrogant enough to think that they cannot be touched by the
scandals caused by this violence-prone gangs of thugs and terrorists.

We live in interesting times. . . "

On this laudable Fourth-of-July, those of you who still enjoy the relative
protection of the US Constitution might think it worth your while to check
out for yourself just how the ARA is treating Ernst in Canada-and how it
will treat you and me tomorrow, in America and elsewhere, if left to their
Marxist devices.  It will shock you.  It must.

Try http://www.web.apc.org/~ara.

And don't miss http://www.web.apc.org/~ara/zundel_r.gif.

Ernst wants me to say this to you:

". . . Go have yourself a patriotic holiday.   Celebrate the Fourth of
July-for there was no greater milestone ever anywhere in the development of
human freedom than America's struggle for independence.  It bequeathed on
you the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.  You are taking them far too
much for granted.  No country in the world has documents like those as its
foundation.  Ponder the meaning of your flag.  It may be gone tomorrow. . .
"

Ingrid

Thought for the Day:

"The death of one person is a tragedy.  The death of a million is a statisti=
c."

(Joseph Stalin)









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"At midnight on July 3/4 Bradley Smith's server pulled the plug on the
CODOH site with no notice whatsoever.  Will keep you informed of where and
when we'll be back on the air.

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                                    C E N S O R E D ! ! !
                                     Richard Widmann
                                         C.O.D.O.H.
                                    C E N S O R E D ! ! !
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When I asked Richard what happened, he told me:

". . . Valleynet was purchased by an eastern company.  All accounts were to
change to psnw - protosource network.  The division manager is one -
admin@psnw.com (Rick Horowitz).  Mr. Horowitz apparently runs his own
holocaust website.  I have not visited it.

Whether he has acted alone or by the prodding of the SWC is open to
question.  I personally lean toward the SWC being behind this although
there is no concrete evidence of this.

Dr. Toben (of the Revisionist Adelaide Institute in Australia) has written
to me that SWC is complaining about the Adelaide Institute site causing an
investigation in Australia . . . This appears to be a coordinated effort.

We were shut down at 1 second past midnight on July 4th.  I will let you
know more as the facts develop . . . "

Just minutes ago, I received the following from Dr. Toben directly:

Adelaide, 5 July 1996

Please be advised that the Brisbane-based daily newspaper, The Courier
Mail, has this day informed its readers that the Federal Attorney-General's
Department is following up a complaint - lodged via the Australian Embassy
in the U.S. by Rabbi Cooper of the U.S.-based Simon Wiesenthal Centre -
that material on Adelaide Institute's website may be contravening
Australian laws.

The Attorney-General's office has confirmed that it is investigating
Adelaide Institute. Needless to state that we have as yet not been formally
or even informally informed of any such investigations.

Various state-based newspapers also carried the story. Our Adelaide
Advertiser rang us this afternoon and asked a few 'confirming questions'.
The story may appear in Saturday's edition of the paper.

Adelaide Institute has likewise filed a complaint against the Simon
Wiesenthal Centre  and also against the publication and distribution of the
Babylonian Talmud.

As Adelaide Institute expected such a move from overseas  - interestingly
we have not had any complaint filed from any local organisation - we are
seeking legal advice as to what the next step will be once the formal
papers arrive from the Attorney-General's Department.

 We expect to be hit with the power of the newly proclaimed federal Racial
Hatred Bill of 1995 which inserts new sections into the Racial
Discrimination Act 1975. Section 18D may protect our work. It states that
nothing which is said or done reasonably and in good faith in the course of
any statement, publication, discussion or debate made or held for an
academic, artistic, or scientific purpose, or any other purpose in the
public interest will  be prohibited.

It is obvious to us that we shall be testing the strength of this new
section. . . "

Friends, it is starting all over again.  This time, no unctuous monkey
business about ". . . protecting minors from smut."

Fasten your seat belts.  Brace yourselves for a very rough ride.

Ingrid

Thought for the Day:

Definition of a court room, as per H. L. Mencken:

"A place where Jesus Christ and Judas Iscariot would be equals, with the
betting odds in favor of Judas."






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can respond.  Thank you!

July 6, 1996

Good Morning from the Zundelsite:

In one of my most popular previous ZGrams, I talked about the German
"Truemmerfrauen" - the post-war German women who would crawl out of the
ruins of their cities with dented buckets in their hands and silently start
cleaning up - a bucket at a time! - to the jeers and abuse of the so-called
"liberators".

In a way, that is where we are now.  There are taunts and insults all
around us.  We are silently cleaning up the destruction - only this time we
are digging out from under - SPIRITUALLY.

We have been decimated horribly.  Most of us don't even know how much has
been destroyed.  Even though I still have memories of what the struggle
really meant, I must say I barely have a grasp of how much has been blown
to smithereens of my own people's spiritual treasures.  Most all of it has
been wiped out.  It's rubble blocking our path and dust in our eyes.  And
now we must rebuild.

Those who are in our camp all share one common feature - we share an
understanding that we have been deceived in the most vicious, cruel way
about most anything pertaining to that war.  About the Holocaust.  About
the German leader, Adolf Hitler.  About the German soldier who threw
himself against Bolshevism - a creed he called the Antichrist - about his
powerfully compelling reasons why he felt there was no choice but to fight
back, and hard.

We have been lied to and lied to and lied to - and that includes what
National Socialism was really all about.

It was NOT about a witch hunt to kill every Jew in sight.  Believe me it
was not.

Somebody who sends me repeated posts sent me this little summary below
which I would call a mere small glimpse of what it really was that so
inspired an entire generation during the Hitler years:

". . . The National Socialist body of belief is founded on three principles:

1. NATURAL ORDER. We believe that the universe is governed by natural laws.
In order for Man to be happy and successful, he must first learn what these
laws are and then follow them.

We believe that Man is a part of the natural world and that he is in no way
separate from or distinct from it. Because of this, we believe that society
should be structured in accordance with the laws of Nature, and not in
opposition to them as is the case today.

RACIAL IDEALISM. Racial idealism is based on the love of one's own people.
It means placing the interests and the welfare of the racial community to
which you belong ahead of your own personal interests and desires.

As racial idealists we have no wish to harm, exploit, or persecute any
other racial groups, despite a persistent media propaganda campaign of
abuse and deliberate falsification to the contrary. We are only interested
in protecting our own people against extinction - a fate all too likely if
nothing is done about present conditions in America.

We believe that all men are NOT created equal. Just as every individual has
his own strengths and weaknesses, so each race has certain qualities which
make it different from other races.

We believe that the White (or Aryan) race has the right to maintain its own
biological, cultural, and political independence and integrity, and that we
have the right to control our own destiny. We also believe that the White
race has the right to defend itself against all physical, economic, and
spiritual assaults, no matter where they come from.

3. THE UPWARD DEVELOPMENT OF THE WHITE RACE. We want to do more than just
defend our race; we want to see it improve. This can be done by encouraging
a high birth rate among those sections of the White population which are
the healthiest, strongest, and most intelligent. At the same time, our
science should work to eliminate hereditary weaknesses and defects among
our people. Our goal is that each new generation of White children will be
better than the one before it.

I want you to look at these principles and think of the Olympic athletes.
Are all created equal?  Of course not.  Does it cause anybody mental
anguish that not all are of the same mold?  Of course not.  Does it
diminish an Olympic contestant as he is struggling for the top but someone
else is "better"?  Of course not.  Would the Olympic games even exist to
show the world just what it means to be a champion striving for the highest
honor if there were no standards of strength, beauty, self-discipline,
pride in one's country and one's gifts - and if there were no competition
and no genuine sportsmanship permitting all to go for the Gold but
reserving that high honor strictly for the strongest?  Of course not.

Would we be better off if there were no Olympics?

It never ceases to amaze me how we buy into shibboleths about "equality,
fraternity and liberty" that serve the enemy and carry our own destruction.
We do for our dogs and horses what we won't do for our children - act on
the knowledge that it is better to be healthy, beautiful and strong than to
be spindly,  soft and sick.

Ingrid

Thought for the Day:

"The mind of the bigot is like the pupil of the eye;  the more light you
pour upon it, the more it will contract."

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July 7, 1996

Good Morning from the Zundelsite:

As I am ruddering through my rivers of mail, I try to sort by topic, and
one of my files is called Sunday Smiles.

So far, the smiles are few and far between - however, to its extreme
mortification, the world grows wiser every day.

Here is the evidence:

*       One of my readers observed:

". . . We may be few in number but think of the huge sums of money the
Holocaust Lobby has to spend to counteract the truth spread by a
comparative few. . . "

*       Another one is busy working on a brand new dictionary that has the
following definition of "Neo/Paleo-Deholocaustolithification":

". . . the result of comparing older Holocaust accounts that were once
written in stone to newer accounts that are currently written in stone. . .
."

*       A teacher in Lowville, New York, faces a $3 million law suit from
the family of a girl whom he called a "Polish Nazi."

". . . The eighth grade science teacher, William Marks, complimented the
girl, Rebecca Harville, for answering a question correctly by saying 'Boy,
you Polish Nazis are smart.'

The lawsuit claims that the slur left the girl '. . . humiliated and
emotionally scarred. . . '"

Just think of the fortunes that are awaiting all those labeled "Nazis"!

*       Hans Schmidt's GANPAC (May issue) offers the following little vignette:

". . . Beautiful Franziska von Almsick is one of the best female swimmers
of Germany.  Recently, the seventeen-year-old got into trouble with the
"international media" because she openly admitted having read Hitler's Mein
Kampf.

Franziska regards Hitler as her favorite character in history and said so.
Then she added:  ". . . I am very interested in German history, and the
Second World War belongs to Adolf Hitler.

It is not forbidden to be interested in such things, or is it . . . ?"

*       According to last week's Spotlight, page 2, the German Information
Center in New York reports that

". . . some 37 right-wing media products, including compact disc, cassettes
and brochures, were outlawed as "dangerous to youth" last month by the
German Government.

The media products outlawed either glorified the German role in the second
world war or 'played down' German guilt. . . "

The same issue also mentions that

". . . Germany is phasing out development aid to Israel in favor of aid to
Palestinians in the West Bank and projects in Jordan . . . Israel's per
capita income now exceeds the . . . cap for such aid, disqualifying it from
disbursements.  . ."

*       In Austria, Professor Robert Hepp at Vechta University has provoked
protests after distributing Holocaust Revisionist material to students. The
good professor has correctly observed that

". . . educated European students, who like to think they are free of
taboos, react in the same manner when (those taboos) are broken as members
of primitive Polynesian tribes. . . "

*       But Italy really takes the cake.  According to a recent ANA report,

". . . the Italian government has ordered reparations to Jews whom they say
suffered under Mussolini's rule, but they want the money to come from
Italy's Jewish community.

The Treasury Ministry issued injunctions last September and this January
for the Union of Italian Jewish Communities to pay up to $327,000 in
reparations."

Italy passed laws in 1970 and 1971 which allows compensation to victims of
war. These payments were to be paid out by war-related groups and the Union
of Italian Jewish Communities is legally defined as such a group. . ."


Here is the perfect slogan for our motley team:  Ve vill make it!

Ingrid

Thought for the Day:

"Two things reduce prejudice-education and laughter."

(Lawrence Peter)



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July 8, 1996

Good Morning from the Zundelsite:


You are entitled to an update on what is happening regarding electronic
attacks on the more prominent Revisionist sites.

I held back for a few days - partly because I was mildly chided for saying
more than I should have, openly.  It is a constant weighing between saying
too much and saying too little, especially knowing that we have not a few
subversive enemies on our list - how can I tell, except by repeat
correspondence? - and knowing that, in all likelihood, every word we write
gets stashed away somewhere in good old KGB style to be used in attempts to
hurt us later.

Here's what I know and feel I can safely say:  Two prime Revisionist sites
have now been cancelled without warning (the Freedom Site in Canada and
CODOH International in the United States);  Adelaide Institute and another
site unfamiliar to me in Australia are under "investigation" at the request
of the Simon Wiesenthal Center, and a fifth one in Hawaii seems to be under
moderate siege.

Additionally, last night the Zundelsite received some rather unpleasant
electronic bombardment.  Somebody put us on some 70+ automatic listserves,
many of them belonging to sexually aberrant groups and some of them coming
>from  prestigious universities - which means that, once they start shooting
automatically, we will be deluged with e-mail and chances are our mail box
will be flooded.  We will not be able to receive our regular readership
mail.

It also means that our computer whizzes will be tied up for hours
cancelling these listserves - something I would not even know how to do!
This situation is analogous to a postman dumping ALL his fourth class junk
mail of the entire town at your doorsteps.  You have to do the clean-up.
You need an iron broom!

(A similar attack was launched some time ago - of which I was blissfully
ignorant until several weeks after the fact.   Somebody had the bright idea
of shipping tons of smutty pictures.  They all went into my Eudara
"attachment folder" automatically, and since I didn't know that they were
even there, had there been a raid on smut at Ingrid's office, imagine what
would have been found!  Again, this is analogous of someone planting kiddie
porn in your garage and then alerting the police. . . )

And just minutes ago I received word that 10 other accounts have been
attacked with listserve bombardment similarly to what was done to us.  This
certainly appears to be a coordinated effort.

What does all this mean?  For us, for now - unpleasant work!  Luckily, most
of these listserves, apparently, have a "verification" system in place,
which means that they will cancel automatically if an authenticated
"subscribe" request is not sent as a follow-up.

I want all my friends to know that, being the compulsive German that I am,
you WILL receive your ZGram daily UNLESS there is massive electronic
sabotage and enemy interference.

What else?  Our very courageous Australian friends have decided to take on
the Talmud legally as a viciously anti-Christian document that needs to be
put under public scrutiny for the harm that it does to their fellow man.
And high time, too.  What's in those books against the Christian world is
horrid!  The outcome will be interesting.  (An interesting glimpse here:
The infamous Canadian Hate Laws specifically exempt religious expression -
which tells you who the authors were!)

On many other fronts, reaction from our readership world-wide is altogether
in our favor.  Especially gratifying are letters from exchange students
>from  countries everywhere.  Youth has its ears pricked up.

I think it is very hard for someone not on the Net to appreciate how
profoundly the world is now changing, thanks to the marvel of the Internet.
When I think of my own unawareness of the nature and the tactics of the
enemy even as recently as three years ago, I can only shake my head at
myself.  To say I walked through life with ethnic blinders on my eyes is
putting it benignly.

The atmosphere is crackling - that's all that I can say!

The May issue of the Adelaide Institute put it well:

". . . We see a new world view emerging - one that has those obsessed with
controlling people's lives in a frenzy.  These enemies of freedom of speech
are currently devising and implementing plans to take away (our) hard-won
freedom.  Are we going to sit back and do nothing?

If we did, we would be mad. . ."

Another friend wrote this, which I am bringing in a shortened version:

" . . . Man your battle stations! The second wave is coming! A new assault
upon the electronic freedom highway has been launched by the forces of evil
and censorship.

This coordinated offensive against the net is designed to assault positions
of truth which have been prepped for this attack by passage of "hate laws"
- their hate, their laws.

Each of you is expected to defend his cybernet position to the last
electron. No compromise, no surrender.

We are a band of electronic brothers, fighting for our information which we
gained by honest endeavor. . . "

So we have.  So we have.  All of us - with our money, our time, our brains
and our principles.  Some of us, with our blood.  It's our dominion, our
property.  Truth is not up for grabs.

You heard it from the Zundelsite!


Ingrid

Thought for the Day:

"The tyrant dies, and his rule ends.  The martyr dies, and his rule begins."

(Soren Kierkegaard, 1813-1855)






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July 9, 1996

Good Morning from the Zundelsite:


A friend of mine who is a famous keynoter has built a speech around a cop
who stopped him at the border between the USA and Canada and asked the
following:

"Where are you from?  How did you get here?  And where are you going?"

Good questions it behooves us all to take to heart and ponder.  And never
was there any better time for some real pondering than now.

In a previous ZGram I wrote:

". . . Those who are in our camp all share one common feature - we share an
understanding that we have been deceived in the most vicious, cruel way
about most anything pertaining to (WWII). About the Holocaust. About the
German leader, Adolf Hitler. About the German soldier who threw himself
against Bolshevism - a creed he called the Antichrist - about his
powerfully compelling reasons why he felt there was no choice but to fight
back, and hard. . . "

One of the never-ending joys of internetting is the thoughtful feedback of
my readers.  I know that what's "out there" in terms of quality of thought
is first class all the way!  We operate no longer in the Stone Age.  Our
enemies can yelp and shriek their smear words all they want about the
movement being redneck, primitive and stupid-that may have worked B.C.
Internet.  Not any more.  Not now.

Our comrades out there KNOW!  They ask themselves:  "Where are we from?
How did we get here?  And where are we going?"

Here is a glimpse:

". . . I'd just like to highlight the fact that postwar propaganda, while
trashing the German people as the primary and most vulnerable and
profitable targets, is equally harmful to the civilized world as a whole,
and as a non-German I am sensitive to this and find the current unhealthy
situation abhorrent.

This propaganda obscures and belittles the horrid consequences of the
planetary bloodbath which was WW2, to which our leaders so frivolously and
unconscionably contributed.  It conceals the fact that this war permitted
(nay, it positively _helped_) that monstrous creed, Communism, to nail down
half the globe where it has perpetuated that bloodbath, to varying degrees,
in the enclaves it controls.

Meanwhile, presumably to keep the faith with grievously mistaken, obscure
decisions taken half a century ago and to please a powerful minority,
western governments have all but shut down all discussion and concentrate
instead on aggressively promoting an odious historical lie of Olympian
proportions. This lie of the so-called Holocaust has affected the domestic
and foreign policies of every country and most particularly those of the
United States which are, for good or ill, the leaders of the western world.
The lie has nourished conflicts in the Middle East and elsewhere from
which, if recovery be possible at all, it will take many generations to do
so.

The owners and operators of the lie, together with their parasitic toadies,
continue to peacefully reap its benefits - although, it must be said, they
do so today with signs of growing alarm.

By continuing to tolerate this vile situation, we are helping to set up a
ghastly trap for our children: an insane world, a world governed by
medieval dogma with its centerpiece - the lie.

It therefore behooves _every_ right-thinking civilized person, not only
those of German origin, to help expose this consummate evil that has
contributed so much to degrading the world to where it is today. We should
all support a healthy process of discovery of truth and of reconciliation
between a truly free self-respecting German nation and those who, under the
influence of this sordid, incessant propaganda barrage, still belittle that
nation and wish it ill.

I see this as a very high order of priority, regardless of whether one is
German or not, because the time is late: 50 years after the event! - and it
is to the equal advantage of us all. It is an objective towards which we
must all work together, in the interests of our children and ourselves. . .
"

Here's what I want to know:   Could there be a more powerful motive?  Is
there a way to quash that kind of growing understanding wherever people
have a brain?

Let me tell you - I'll pin that kind of intellectual quality and knowledge
of emotional necessity of struggle against those shop-worn smear words
anytime!


Ingrid

Thought for the Day:

"Men of integrity, by their very existence, rekindle the belief that as a
people we _can_ live above the level of moral squalor."

(John Gardner)






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July 10, 1996

Good Morning from the Zundelsite:

Our work at this stage in the movement consists almost exclusively of
information outreach, which is a monumental task all by itself but making
giant strides.  But it is heartening to see the outline of the future, and
one way to surmise what is to come can be glimpsed easily from thoughtful
letters from many other cultures.

It's fascinating stuff!

The letter below was written by a young Japanese student who has been in
America for only a few years.   I have done a little paragraph editing and
very slight syntax corrections to make for readability, but the text is his
own, and the thoughts are his own:

". . . I honestly have to admit I have to take more time to develop my
opinions.  I am only 16 years old.  I must mature and I must listen  more
to other people's ideas.  I must take more time to study German  and
Japanese history and society.  I need more experience and more suffering,
and more anger.

Vladimir Zhirinovsky had to suffer for many decades under the  communists
to be this determined to introduce National Socialism into Russia.  Adolf
Hitler had to be very patient and long-suffering, waiting years and
organizing slowly to get his movement going.

My  moment is not now.  Maybe when I am thirty and very angry, I'd judge
myself capable to speak. For now, I am content just writing.  After all,
Jesus Christ had to wait to be thirty to officially be baptized by the Holy
Spirit.  Only then did he object to the corrupt Pharisees.

In Germany, Holocaust deniers are considered unconventional  and
unorthodox.  In Japan, on the other hand, people who deny  Japanese "war
crimes" like the Nanjing massacre, the forced  enslavement of sex slaves
(comfort women) abound.

In fact, many Japanese friends I know hate the Americans for atom-bombing
Hiroshima and Nagasaki for no apparent reason (not because Japan was doing
anything bad!)  and later occupying it in the name of "world security."

It can be considered that stuff like Holocaust-revisionism is  common and
quite normal in Japan.  Anything that strengthens the  Japanese people's
position is considered orthodox; even if it means very warped revisionism
by American standards.

Reminder: My views are not unique in Japan.  The Japanese youth are
developing the same ideas as I am.  It's just that I can publish them  in
English and disseminate them that makes me very unique.

We Japanese are used to ignoring everybody's complaints.  We still  print
books praising Adolf Hitler's election techniques.   Unfortunately, the
publication had to be temporarily halted after  outrage from Jewish groups
in Japan.  (Note that there are only 500  Jews in Tokyo alone.  They sure
scream.)

In the magazine Marco Polo, Masanori Nishioka wrote the article  "There
were no Nazi Gas Chambers." He wrote, "The Holocaust is  nothing but a
story which has become 'history' after the war without  being given
investigation."  This prompted the SimonWiesenthal Center  to protest to
Japan's AMBASSADOR TO WASHINGTON!  The Israeli Embassy  in Tokyo made
protests also.  Hanada, the editor, defended the  printing, saying Nishioka
found evidence that standard theories about  the gassing of Jews were
wrong.  The Japanese public and media ignore the Jews and the  whole
controversy, simply disgusted with such a trivial matter.  In  fact, the
JEWS were the ones who were lightly reprimanded.

This sure  shows how different the Japanese are from the "American"
Germans.  We  Japanese are not swayed by an ethnic group called the Jewry.
They do  not have power in Asia. They also do not control their interests
in  Japan. The Jews had assumed that they would reap the same results in
Japan as they did in Germany.  THEY ARE MISTAKEN!

Occasionally, when there is economic decline, Hakenkreuz flags are  flown
across the Ginza district to make an intellectual protest  against the
Jews.  I am proud of how the Japanese are resisting the  taboo.

We are still nostalgic about that fargone period in history  when elegant
Europe was still a virgin, when nothing intervened  against her interests.
We romanticize that optimistic time!  Boy,  the Germans are still moving at
a snailllllll pace.  We sure hope for  a revival in Europe.  We feel alone
in our achievements.

I guess Japan has its own revisionist movement.  People are starting  to
realize that Japan was forced into the war.  Fellow Asian  neighbors were
suffering under European colonizers and she could not  have possibly
ignored that.  Japan meant to keep Asia to Asians and  keep the Europeans
to Europe.  Thus, Japan sought to liberate her  suffering friends from
further degredation.  It was all sensible.  I  have to give the Nazis
credit for understanding our struggle.  Very  few of this period did.

When the Americans stopped trading with Japan, this crippled her, so  much
that she could not liberate her neighbors anymore.  There was no  choice
but to attack the US because her allies Germany and Italy were  busy with
their wars and other countries were ignoring Japan's holy  mission.

Then America became very brutal, eventually bringing Japan  to its knees as
it did to Germany.  I swear, the cause was nothing  demonic.  IT WAS NOBLE
 . ."

How different a world view this is from what our American schools grind
out!  When I read letters like that, I often think that other races will do
a great deal more for our cause than we will do ourselves - their instincts
are less murky than ours, at this point.  There's much to learn from them.


Ingrid

Thought for the Day:

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July 11, 1996

Good Morning from the Zundelsite


The other day, I was invited to a barbecue where a young student, highly
talented and in pre-law, had just come back from Washington, D.C., where
she had interned in the White House.  She told of her experiences
hobnobbing with the people on the Hill, one of which offered her,
predictably, the obligatory visit to the US Holocaust Museum.

There were about 20 people at that barbecue, all of whom I would consider
friends, all of whom knew of my background in a general way and knew that I
was German-born who had an unorthodox view on what had happened during
World War II.  Not one of them would have set out to hurt my feelings on
purpose by saying or implying that I was part of that monstrosity the world
so thoroughly despised:  The Germans who had manufactured the "Holocaust".

But such is the indoctrination about the "Holocaust" that, at that
barbecue, I might as well not have been there.  I was the pickaninny.  The
way my friends talked of the Germans in my presence they would have never
talked about the Jews in civil company - not even in their absence!  The
talk turned to the so-called "unspeakable brutalities" of Germany full
force - and everybody was in smug agreement:  there never had been such a
horrid deed as the Proverbial Six Million.

Now what was I to do?  Stand up, get on my soap box, spoil everybody's
appetite by introducing Truth?  Or keep my feelings to myself, roll over
meekly and obligingly as though I had been born without a spine, and know
that, once again, my people had been spiritually raped and I had let that
happen?

You guessed it.  We have all been there - more times than we care to
remember.  That afternoon, I could not bring myself to tell my friends:
"It's small and shabby to be quiet and let this opportunity pass by.  I am
now going to enlighten you. . . "  I just kept munching on my hot dog.

I am still haunted by that afternoon.  It is an old dilemma, and I don't
have an answer.  The truth is that it's painful to witness for the cause.
We need to practice it.

I remember one of the first times I talked to Ernst about how difficult it
is, he said in his quiet voice:  "Every time you let an opportunity pass
by, it's twice as hard for me."

I think that's a beginning - to spread out the burden a bit.

We need to act in tandem - not just let one or two or three of us take the
full brunt of people's horror and dismay that there is such a thing as
"Holocaust Denial."

Three or four days ago, I was listening to Samuel Francis on C-Span, and he
said something that makes sense.  He said that what we are engaged in now
is every bit the kind of civil rights struggle that others have fought
through-as valid and as relevant as that of the Blacks, the Viet Nam
Protesters, the Homosexuals and the Feminists.  Their first spokesmen for
their cause were willing to stand up to be the lightning rods.  Why are we
playing chicken?

A friend wrote just the other day:

*       ". . .  I decided that what I lacked in massive influence I would
make up for in terms of making a cumulative effort; a little each day,
relentlessly, day after day. I would turn myself into a revisionist termite
relentlessly burrowing and boring into the woodwork, until one day the
floor caved in under the master's own weight.

If you listen carefully late at night you can hear the floorboards creaking
 . . "

How many Revisionist termites are out there?  Hard to tell.  By now, there
must be millions.  Right now, it pains me every time somebody asks me to
keep name and address confidential, and yet I understand.  Who wouldn't
understand?

A change must come.  Our best and most fearless must learn to stand up and
be counted, and others will emulate them.  They must articulate what this
is all about-about the right to dignity.  We're human beings.  We're not
scum.  We are not liars, plotters, falsifiers, hypocrites, imposters,
tricksters, and deceivers.  We leave those tactics to our enemy-in the full
knowledge that there are more of us-and there is more TO us-than "them."


Ingrid

"In matters of conscience, the law of the majority has no place."

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July 12, 1996

Good Morning from the Zundelsite:

If I were to tell people that the name "George Lincoln Rockwell" means
nothing else to me except a vague image that he liked uniforms, lived
somewhere near Chicago, and was some kind of ideological icon to the
movement, chances are I would not be believed.

Nonetheless, it is true.  I know next to nothing about the man except that
he was martyred quite a few years ago.  I always thought of him as rather
stern.

Therefore, it came as pleasant surprise to me to find out that he had a
funny bone.  The poem below was sent to me, and being the compulsive
stylist that I am, I fixed its cadence a bit and gave it a more poignant
ending.  I know that George will forgive me, wherever he may dwell as he
looks down on us.

Here goes - and for this one, I'll probably get in trouble.  It's called
"The Fable of the Ducks and Hens."

Many, many years ago,
When animals could speak.
A wondrous thing the ducks befell,
Their tale is quite unique.

Down by a pond dwelt all these ducks,
Ten thousand at the least.
Their duckish joys were undisturbed
By any man or any beast.

One day down near the entrance gate,
There was an awful din.
A hundred hens all out of breath
Were begging to come in.

"Oh let us in!" these poor birds cried,
"Before we do expire!"
"Tis only by the merest inch
That we escaped the fire!"

Their feathers burned, their combs a-droop,
They were the saddest sight.
They'd run a hundred miles or more,
All day and then all night.

"Come in, come in!" the ducks all quacked,
"For you our hearts do bleed!
We'll share our happy lot with you,
Just tell us what you need!"

And so these poor bedraggled hens
Amongst the ducks moved in.
=46or, after all, the ducks declared,
"We're sisters 'neath the skin."

Before too many months had passed,
The hens were good as new.
They sent for all their rooster friends,
And these were welcomed too.

To please their host, these chickens tried
To waddle and to quack.
To simulate the duckish ways
They quickly learned the knack.

This pleased the flock of ducks because
It gratified their pride.
But hear my tale and learn how they
Got taken for a ride.

The ducks, it seemed, spent all their time
In fixing up their place,
In growing food and building homes
And cleaning every space.

They asked the hens what they would do
To earn their daily bread.
"We'll teach and write and entertain,
And buy and sell," they said.

And so these hens began to teach
The baby ducks and chicks.
They traded food and eggs and things,
With many clever tricks.

They wrote great books & put on shows,
Of genius they'd no lack.
It wasn't long till chickens owned
The Duckville Daily Quack.

One day a mother duck who took
Her ducklings to the lake,
Was flabbergasted when one said,
"A swim I will not take!"

"Why ducklings always swim!" she gasped,
"It's what you're built to do!
Like bunnies hop, and crickets chirp,
And cows most always moo!"

"Your just old fashioned, fuddy duck,
That stuff is all old hat!"
"It's wrong for birds to swim;
..besides, It's too cold on my little pratt!"

"Oh fie!" the mother duck exclaimed,
"You're talking like a fool!"
Up quacked the other ducks and said,
"He's right! Ms. Hen taught that in school!"

"Such things must stop!" the mother cried,
"Those hens can't teach such lies!
=46or sheer ingratitude and nerve,
I'm sure this takes the prize!"

But she was wrong, for even then
The hens did thump the tub.
Demanding they be let into,
The Duckville Swimming Club.

"But you don't swim!"the ducks all cried,
"To join, why should you care?"
"That's not the point!" the hens replied,
"To exclude us isn't fair!"

The younger ducks, who'd been to school,
Agreed right there and then,
"To keep them out is bigotry!"
"T'would just be ANTI-HEN...!"

Outnumbered by the younger ducks,
The old ducks soon did loose;
And so they let the hens all in,
If they would pay their dues.

That night the Duckville Daily Quack
Contained this banner spread:
"Reactionary Ducks Are Licked!
AND DUCKVILLE MOVES AHEAD!"

Down at the Duckville Gaiety,
The youngsters laughed with glee
At cracks about "Old Fuddy' Ducks"
In burlesque repartee.

Next day the hens were at the club,
A petition they'd sent around.
They objected to the swimming fund
With fury and with sound.

"You use our dues to fix the pond,
to keep it neat and trim,
"is surely wrong," they said,
"You KNOW we do not swim!"

"God help us!" cried a wise old duck,
"These chickens have gone mad!"
"We'll take this to the court, by George,
And justice will be had!"

But when they went up to the judge,
Imagine their dismay!
A CHICKEN-JUDGE decreed that they
Now had a fine to pay!

"Minorities must have their rights!"
The judge declared right then.
"To use hen's dues to fix the pond
Is very ANTI-HEN...!"

Once more the Duckville Daily Quack
Emblazoned across the page:
"Old Fuddy Ducks Refuse to See
The Great New Coming Age!"

In Duckville church on Sunday morn,
The preacher spoke these words,
"Discrimination's got to stop!
Remember we're all birds!"

The wisest duck in all the town
Sat down in black despair.
"I'll write a book," he thought, and then
"This madness I will bare!"

"Let Swimmers Swim, let Hoppers Hop,
Let Each One Go His Way.
Let No One Force a Fellow Bird!"
Was what he had to say.

"Twas wrong to force the hens to swim
So here's the problem's crux;
It's just as bad for hens to try
To chicken-ize our ducks!"

"I can't print that,"the printer said,
"T'will put me in a mess!"
"My shop is mortgaged to the hens,
The chickens own my press!"

The worried duck next tried to warn
His friends by speech and pen.
Young ducks fresh home from school now jeered
"He's just an Anti-Hen...!"

Now up the stream a little way
Was Gooseville, on the lake.
The hens had come to Gooseville too,
But Geese were more awake.

When hens began to spoil the young
And Gooseville's laws to flout,
The Geese Rose Up in Righteous Wrath
And Simply Threw Them Out...!!!

Of course, you know where they all ran;
On Duckville they converged.
"We've got to take these refugees."
The Duckville hens had urged.

The Duckville Daily Quack declared:
"These Geese Will Stop at Naught!
"They Plan to Conquer all the World!"
"Atrocities They've Wrought!"

"That's right!"the young ducks all agreed,
"We'll help our fellow birds!
These Geese have plans to conquer us! ....
We've read the Quack's own words!"

They let the hens from Gooseville in,
The whole bedraggled pack.
... And every hen took up a job
at Duckville's Daily Quack!

When Duckville mayor's term was up,
The Quack put up it's Duck;
A vain and stupid duck was he,
A veritable cluck!

But when he praised the wild young ducks,
And cursed the evil Geese,
The Quack declared he was "all wise,"
His praise would never cease.

The hens chipped in to help this cluck
Give grain away for free.
The old ducks sadly shook their heads,
The problems they could see!

And sure enough, this stupid duck,
He was elected mayor.
=46rom this point on, The Duckville ducks,
They never had a prayer.

The Mayor said, "Gooseville must GO!"
"We'll wipe them off the map!"
While Duckville slept, the scheming hens
=46or Gooseville set the trap.

They called the Geese by filthy names;
They filled their pond with sticks.
They helped the weasels catch the Geese,
and other hennish tricks.

The Geese got mad and threw the sticks,
"It's WAR!" the Quack announced.
"We ducks must Fight those evil Geese,
Till they've been soundly trounced!"

The ducks (who knew not of the tricks
Indulged in by their mayor),
Were filled with patriotic zeal,
And pitched right in for fair!

So when the ducks whipped all the Geese,
The Mayor called "Retreat!!"
"Our HENVILLE friends should really take
Gooseville's big main street!"

The hens were back in Gooseville now;
They starved and beat the Geese.
They prayed for "Peace"=97 but organized
The "HENVILLE ARMED POLICE!!!"

They drained the Geese's swimming pond,
De-Goose-ified their schools;
They wrung the Gooseville mayor's neck
On lately made-up rules.

They formed a council of the hens;
"UNITED BIRDS" 's the name.
The other birds who joined the thing
Did not perceive the game.

No sooner had they set this up,
Than they announced their plan:
To seize up Swanville as a home
=46or all their hennish clan.

They took a vote among the hens,
And everyone approved!
"Swanville was for the HENS!" they said,
"Way back, before we moved,"

And so they kicked the swans all out,
With Duckville's help and power
And Duckville couldn't understand
Why swans on THEM turned sour.

By this time, Duckville was a mess,
The young ducks had gone mad.
They stole and laughed at Truth and Law;
They went completely bad.

The hens were selling Loco Weed
in every nasty den.
But ducks who dared to mention this,
Were labeled "ANTI-HEN...!"

The hens all preached of Tolerance,
Invoked the "Golden Rule,"
And subsidized the indigent,
The greedy and the fool.

At last the very dumbest ducks
Began to smell a rat.
"This mayor is no good!"they cried,
"We're going to fix that!"

The hens had planned for even this
A candidate they had,
Whom even wise old ducks believed
Just never could be bad.

This Hen-tool duck whipped the Geese,
A soldier Duck was he.
Although the hens had set him up,
The Ducks all thought him free.

This Hen-tool got elected,
Through ignorance and greed,
Through hennish lies in Press & Speech,
Through Bribes of Chicken Feed.

The hens now kicked the ducks around
Without a blush of shame,
Until the mayor ran the town
In nothing else but name.

They pumped the Duck's pond dry;
They taught the ducks to crow,
While duckish numbers dwindled,
The hens began to grow.

The hens stirred up the happy crows
Out of the piney wood,
To Fight to Mix and Marry ducks
The name was "Brotherhood."

Things got so bad that fifty ducks,
Who knew the days gone by;
Took up their wives and children
Deciding they would fly.

They flew through storms and tempest;
They froze, and many died.
But on they drove, until, at last,
A lovely lake they spied.

They settled down exhausted,
But soon went straight to work;
To build and clear and cultivate,
No danger did they shirk.

Now after many years of toil,
This little band had grown.
The fields around were full of grain
=46rom seeds that they had sown.

The first ducks had since died away;
Their struggles had long ceased.
Through bitter work and suffering,
Their joys had been increased.

One day, down near the entrance gate
There was an awful din;
A hundred hens, all out of breath,
Were begging to come in. . .


Thought for the Day:

"There are many truths of which the full meaning cannot be realized until
experience has brought it home."

(John Stuart Mill, 1806-1873)






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July 13, 1996

Good Morning from the Zundelsite:

It is time for some news updates and to ask for help with some projects.
=46irst, here is a call for volunteers.  I could use help with the following=
:

1)      A conscientious person who would be willing to track down products
- where to find books/audios/videos etc. for sale.  It takes too much of my
time to do this.

2)      An even more conscientious person who would be willing to track
down references of certain documents - both pro- and con-Revisionist - that
people want to double-check.  This is important work also.

3)      A very, very creative web page person who can visualize a Home Page
entitled "Nordic Lights."

4)      A person who reads Japanese to double-check a Japanese translation
a young, highly talented student is preparing for us.

Now to the News:

On our own front first.  I am copying here from a recent Z=FCndel-Haus fax:

*       ". . . I finally have the draft pretty well finalized for our
counter suit against Sabina Citron and her friends.  I spent quite a while
trying to locate them in order to serve legal papers on them.  After
considerable difficulty we have all the information we need.  The papers
will be served in time and then the struggle will begin.

I hate to have to undertake this step.  I hate court rooms and legal
proceedings.  I think all this is parasitic stuff on their part but they
have initiated it and I have to defend myself by going on the offensive.

They will try to have a Judge pass an interlocutory injunction to stop me
>from  using the Zundelsite as a vehicle-and it will be interesting to see
how far a Canadian Judge will bow to their pressure, demands and tantrums.


There is a lot of preparations already going on and a lot more research to
be done.  This is going to be messy and nerve-wrecking.  My attorneys say
it will cost hundreds of thousands of dollars-why or how, I don't know.

I think this Morris Dees/Tom Metzker scenario is being tried here by Sabina
Citron.  Well, we will see.  I came with $200 in my pocket to Canada in
1958.  I'm sure I'll have $200 left even if I should lose this engagement.


Am I scared?  No.  I am thinking what it says in the Bible:  "Ask, and Ye
shall receive."  Sabina shall receive - possibly a goodly does of justice
more to our liking than hers. . . "

Remember how Ellen Kachuck (sp?) of the B'nail Brith of Toronto, Canada,
summed up when she said:

". . . I think it was a much messier affair than we expected it to be in
terms of things coming out we did not want." (Globe & Mail, February 18,
1985)

She was talking about the First Great Holocaust Trial in 1985.  Now it is
1996, and much has happened since.  These people do not realize that courts
are our "weapons" because they leave a paper trail that will be there
=46OREVER.

*       The two-pronged cyber-attack of a few days ago by persons (now
under investigation!)  that led to the cancellation of several individual
websites and massive e-mail bombing seems to have petered out.  It was not
nearly as bad as we had all feared.  From all we can tell, six sites were
targeted;  not all of them were canceled.

Additionally, I know of 10 accounts that were massively mail-bombed, but
there was an unanticipated backlash on our enemies in that the owners of
the lists that were abused in this fashion became extremely angry - not at
*us*  but at the perpetrators.

CODOH International, the site we most regretted seeing damaged, is up on
the air again, and the new Codoh listing is:  http://www.codoh.com/ and
e-mail CODOHmail@aol.com.  It will take a few days to get the documents
back up, but tuck the information away so you can use it later.  (These
blasted Revisonists are truly like ants - the enemy destroys;  undaunted,
they rebuild. . ."

*       David Irving, British-born author of the controversial "Goebbels
Diaries," will be on a speaking tour in the United States.  We are checking
with England right now to see if we are allowed to announce the specific
dates.  You may be sure that our enemies will mount a major effort against
this tour.  As soon as I receive the green light, I will give you the names
and numbers to contact.

*       A reader whose judgment I trust sent me a recommendation for the
following site:  http://h-net.msu.edu/~german/discuss/goldhagen/
This website carries extensive reviews and comments.  I haven't looked at
it yet.  Let me know what you think of the material posted there.

*       Our French correspondent reports that "The Founding Myths of
Israeli Politics" is a stunning success in France in spite of the near
general media campaign against it.  The book has already sold 17.000 copies
(according to "Faits et Dcouments, nr 9, just published). The book is
available in many bookshop throughout the country and is distributed by the
Romanian "Librairie du Savoir", 5 rue Malebranche in Paris 5.

And finally, here is a little chuckle:  It seems that in Paris a bill board
went up in the dark of the night that said simply:  "What if Abbe Pierre is
right?"

Hold that thought.  It is a good one.

Ingrid

Thought for the Day:

"The art of medicine consists of amusing the patient while nature cures the
disease."

Voltaire







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Happy Bastille Day. Information about our favourite French
pseudohistorian, Robert Faurisson, is at 
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July 14, 1996

Good Morning from the Zundelsite:

Periodically, the Zundelsite gets exhortations to blast this or that person
or segment of the Movement for real or perceived sins.  People want us to
take sides, and they want us to be uncompromising and absolutist in our
outlook, likes, dislikes and even ideology.

Moreover, some of our readers have a certain image of what that ideology
should be and how we should conduct ourselves to live up to that image.
They tell us where a line needs to be drawn regarding this or that, and
they get angry and upset if we resist their pressure.

We are at war.  We are a family.  And we are in the trenches against a
common foe.

Many of us, myself included, believe this is the final war.  This is it.
There are no "ifs" or "buts."

More yet, there is no choice but to be in that war.  Whether or not our
children will have a place, much less a meaningful existence, in the next
century depends entirely on what we do today - not just on what we say or
write.

This IS war of the most naked, brutal kind.  Some may participate for
traditionally religious reasons;  others perhaps because they can see
cracks in the geopolitical and crooked world monetary system that are of
such horrendous, global magnitude that an earthquake beyond the Richter
Scale is overdue;  still others, like myself, believe that what is
happening is that the enemy has just about run out of fools and tools - and
knows it.

The Germans have a perfect word:  "Torschlusspanik."  Panic before the gate
falls shut.

So self-defeating are his actions that many foolish things are being done -
the prime examples being this "in-your-face" repulsive discharge of
Building Yet another Shrine to Lies and Sacrificing Yet Another Ancient
Mariner that sets good people's teeth on edge like nothing else could do.

If I were in their shoes, I would lay off.  Right now.  Before it is too late.

The truth is:  People are fed up.  Here in America, this feeling of
revulsion at constant provocation is now discernible to a degree that I
would not have thought possible even two or three years ago.  At this
point, revulsion and reaction are more manifest in the low-brow echelons
than in the upper crusts where genuflecting is still very much in fashion -
but it is happening, and it is bubbling upwards.

More and more people are open and outspoken in their dislike at getting no
relief from Hucksterism;  they no longer look over their shoulder.  You see
that everywhere.

The other day, I did a program for a Women's Club - the kind that used to
pour their tea on languid afternoons while talking of poinsettias - and
when I spoke of my own background, European, that knew about the Hidden
Hand for decades if not centuries, it was as if a fire cracker was
exploding in that group.

These women knew.  Two or three years ago, they might not have - but now
they knew.  They knew.

I have a correspondent who always signs off with ". . . the enemy has been
identified." This could well be a bumper sticker.  It would give instant
recognition.  It is that strong.   Can't you just hear the honks?

This is the one red thread that runs through everything-the enemy has been
identified.  It's palpable on every Website that deals with ethnic
re-discovery.  It rings as true in the hoarsely belted out Rahowa songs as
it does on the pages of the Militia flyers.  This visceral reaction is as
true of the often sensationalist, frequently aggressive Spotlight as it is
of the scholarly, subdued and, some think, a bit stodgy publications of the
Institute for Historical Review.

It certainly is true of us, the people who support the Zundelsite.

I can tell you that not everybody thinks that Ernst is right in his defiant
slant when he sticks his own logo smack onto his own special kind of dream.
Some wince.  Some laugh.  Some say:  "Right on!"  But where there is no
argument is this:  We know the enemy, and he is vicious.  He knows
instinctively the runway has an end.  And if he can, they'll make us crash
as well.

That's the reality.

Among ourselves, we can't afford to squabble.  At this stage, being in the
trenches as we are - those of us who have chosen to be visible so that  our
comrades world-wide find us - there is one paramount concern and duty to
our dream:  Not to fritter ourselves.  Not to dissipate our strength.  Not
to go off on tangents but to keep our energy locked on the target.  "Not to
write music as a sow piddles," as Mozart put it aptly two hundred years
ago.

I am paraphrasing here part of a missive a new friend sent to me.
Apparently this is a person with great ideological insight and force of
conviction on one hand but a propensity to scorch his comrades on the other
hand because of his uncompromising stand on ideology.

Here's what he says, and I will take him at his word:

"What gives the Movement potential for the immediate future is that the
enemy power has become so great in our country that it can no longer be
hidden.

Twenty-five years ago you pretty much had to be an extreme right-winger to
lend an ear to, or to even be acquainted with, the Grand Conspiracy Theory.
Today Americans from all over the political spectrum will lend an ear to it
if they are sufficiently exposed to it - for the simple reason that it fits
with things that have become evident.

I do not think the Movement has exploited this new, advantageous situation
very well. What is important is that . . . this potential is great."

This is so true.  This feeling that "We, the People, have been had!" is so
deep,  so visceral and so universal that it opens the door to our message -
>from  Japan to Russia, from Argentina to Alaska.  Which is:  There are
alternatives.  It is still possible to get control of our destinies.  We
can do better than to leave a moral sewer to our children.

I believe that that is our lever.  And our fulcrum is our unity.

Let us not waste this opportunity with clashes between competing
personalities, silly in-fights and pet peeves.  It's harming our struggle.
Our moral structure has been altered, and it is serious, and we are going
to fight back.  And, given that - can we afford to squabble?

No, we cannot.  Let's not.

There is a place and time for everything, and we can hammer out, when there
is time and leisure, the things that trouble us - such as:  What's race?
What is the perfect form or method of government beholden to the people and
not an alien powers?  Why are we in the clutches of the usurers and
banksters?  Who was this fellow, Adolf Hitler, and why has he been
demonized for decades as no one else on earth?  Could it have been because
he saw what we are only now beginning to perceive:  That out there is a
foe, identified on solid evidence, that's stealing our children's souls
while dancing in their brains and on their tongues.

Let's be a family.  We're not a pack of wolves that turn on each other for
scraps.

Ingrid

Thought for the Day:

"If a society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who
are rich."

John F. Kennedy




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Does anybody actually read these things? I mean, what's the big deal? If I
was posting random gibberish, would anyone notice the difference (if any)? 
I'm really starting to think that with only a few dozen exceptions in the
whole world, nobody gives a flying Exon. Why should they?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1996-07/15/031L-071596-idx.html

Oh well, for whatever it's worth, here's today's Zundelgram, from award-
winning author Ingrid Rimland, PhD:

July 16, 1996

Good Morning from the Zundelsite:

We all know the expression, "The Emperor's New Clothes" which, I believe,
derives from a Hans Christian Anderson fairy tale.

For those too young to have been raised in traditions of "talk-story", as
Maxine Hong Kingston puts it, this story has to do with a deceitful ruler
who, with the help of canny sages, had slaves weave non-existent cloth,
embroider it with non-existent threat, adorn it with non-existent buttons,
get his entire entourage help him to put it on and wear it-to the
enthusiastic accolades of those who benefited from an industry of
non-existent goods.

Periodically, this emperor would show himself to the adoring masses,
wearing his birthday suit, and no one had the guts to call him on the
carpet for his fraud-until an honest child cried out:  "But look!  But
look!  The Emperor HAS NO CLOTHES !"

That is where we are now.  And it is most instructive to observe how
desperately the august Emperor now tries to keep the grand illusion going.


>From France, we recently received the following:

". . . All Europeans should have a look on Germany, the central power of
our continent. Under the admittedly new varnish of democracy, we have to
face the resurrection of an old authoritarianism, out of the Prussian mold,
which facilitated the rise of Nazism to power in the 30s.

Now the official enemy is whoever does not consider the foreign-devised
constitution the sole source of patriotism. The general prohibition to
study and reinterpret the historical events of the 40s is construed by the
local courts as a free for all chase of political dissidents.

Among them the political colors are quite spread out. Some are
revisionists, some are not, some are nationalists, some are not, some are
pro-Nazi, many are not.

The number of political prisoners is on the rise. Books and magazines are
seized by the police. People are thrown into jail because they have
uttered, in front of private audiences, ideas which are deemed heretical by
authorities.

More and more intellectuals are going into exile to avoid long terms in
prison. Big fines are imposed. One publisher is fined because he asked
someone to help him interview G. Rudolf, a dissident chemist.

Courts which are said to bee too lenient are dissolved and judges dismissed
while their rulings are revised for more punishment. (G. Deckert case in
Stuttgart)

Germany is becoming even more repressive than during the already heavy
period of the Red Brigades. Frivolous accusations and ridiculous assertions
do not stop prosecutors hunting down the non-liberal dissidents. . . "

The United States serves up a fellow named John Schwartz, a Washington Post
staff writer, who had this to say:

". . . A lot of journalists are discovering "hate speech" on the Internet
-- racism, antisemitism, the whole vile package. It's the cover story for
the current issue of Emerge, with the arresting image of a mouse cord tied
in a noose.

Such groups as the Simon Wiesenthal Center in California try to persuade
publications to run stories on this loathsome trend, AND THEY URGE
GOVERNMENTS to drive those who spread messages of hate from the Net. . . "
(emphasis added).

>From Canada comes this exchange between one Bernie Farber, whom we believe
to be the Director of Community Relations and spokesman for the Canadian
Jewish Congress, and young Marc Lemire, whose Freedom-Site  was
unceremoniously kicked off the air by Pathway Communications.  We offer it
here without comment:

Bernie:  "Hey Marc, such is the beauty of our capitalist system. Pathway
communication (sic) has decided that it does not want you as a customer.
This is it's (sic) right. You have the right to find another server. As for
your financial problems with Pathway, small claims court is available to
you."

Marc: " Bernie, I'll tell you what--I'll open a business and refuse to
serve Jews.  Would you agree that this is my right also?"

And on and on and on.

Let's say you are the emperor, and suddenly you find yourself parading in
front of millions in the buff.  And next you realize that from your
opposition's point of view, a problem well stated is a problem already half
solved.  That will be your cue to talk yourself red, white and blue in the
face-which seems to be now in full swing.

Ingrid

Thought for the Day:

"In a museum in Havana there are two skulls of Christopher Columbus, one
when he was a boy, and one when he was a man."

(Mark Twain)









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Here ya go.

July 17, 1996

Good Morning from the Zundelsite:

Two glimpses that speak for themselves:

*       First, from our correspondent in France:

". . . Yesterday, Tuesday, July 16, a group of young Betar activists
attacked a bookshop in Paris. This bookshop, the Librairie du Savoir, is
known to sell the book of Roger Garaudy, "The Founding Myths of Israeli
Politics".

The book has attracted a wide controversy. The sale of the book is
perfectly legal and no restriction has been edicted by authorities. The
author may face a trial in the future but nothing has been decided so far.

The Betar activists invaded the bookshop, beating up three persons. They
concentrated their savage assault on the shop owner, Mr. Georges Danesco, a
philosoph by training, and a political refugee from Ceaucescu Rumania.

Mr. Danesco was later taken to a hospital. He seems to suffer from a broken
skull. The Betar also spread red paint on the books displayed in the
bookshop.

The Betar has its origin in the Zionist movement initiated in the thirties
by Jabotinski. In Paris, they are known to have assaulted people or
meetings they had decided to suppress.

They are known to use violence and enjoy official military training in
Israel during the summer vacations. They have attacked right in the middle
of the Palace of Justice during several trials of Prof. Faurisson. They are
known to have participated in the assault of another bookshop, la Vieille
Taupe, and were severely beaten by the police. They enjoy high level of
protection and their agressions have never been condemned in court.

As usual the defenders of human rights and intellectual freedom will remain
silent, out of fear, or out of agreement with these methods. . . "

*       Canada:  Ernst Zundel, in the July Zundel Power Letter an excerpt
titled  "Metro Toronto Government finances Neo-Marxist terrorist group."

The Council of Metro Toronto in a huge majority vote has decided to finance
the Anti-Racist-Action anarchist group with an $8,000 grant for their
"educational" activities to "stop hate among youth."

I listened to part of the debate and could only shake my head about the
shallowness of the arguments and the hatred oozing from the grimacing faces
of some of the councilmen as they spewed forth their threats of "having to
fight violence with violence."

Wow!

When Hitler said it, it was a no-no!  When a Toronto Councilman says it, it
becomes the height of "logic" and "political correctness."

It was a thoroughly disgusting spectacle.  Before they got around to
voting, I had informed the Metro Councilors of the activities of these
street gang type terrorist groups.  I had sent them press releases, copies
of death threat posters, and photos of wall-sprayed slogans advocating to
kill me.  I even made a special video of the ARA demonstrations, where they
shout their "Smash the System!" and "The cops and the Klan go hand in
hand!" and even "By fighting the Neo-Nazis, you fight the government!"

All was to little avail!  They got their grant.  Why?  Because the City
Councilors of Metro Toronto "had to stop the Nazis."

Listening to these people, mostly post-war baby boomers, talk and mouth
their rhetoric as though World War II was still raging, is really
educational.

I had told them in a letter that I would hold them responsible for any
damage or harm done to me, my family, staff members, or my business by
these Marxist-government financed thugs!  State sponsored terrorism-that's
what we now have in Toronto!

The Ontario Government also financed the ARA indirectly with a grant of
$8,000 via its Trillium Foundation-an arms-length outfit using lottery
profits to finance basically unworthy, parasitic enterprises.  Our letters,
phone calls and faxes to them have resulted in an internal shake-up, and
apparently heads will roll there soon.  People will be replaced, and others
will be demoted."

That's all I have to say this morning.

Ingrid

"History is a nightmare from which we are trying to awaken."

(James Joyce)









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Today we wish a happy birthday to Vidkun Quisling, aka Abraham Lauritz
Jonsson (can anyone guess why his name changed?), who ruled Norway for all
of five days from April 9th, 1940 to April 15th, 1940, at which time the
Nazis deposed him for incompetence.

Today is also the birthday of Stanislaw Mikolajczyk, leader of the Polish
government in exile, who fled to England when the Stalinists took over in
1947; and Nelson Mandela, who never fled.

And now, for your entertainment, today's Zundelgram:

July 18, 1996

Good Morning from the Zundelsite:

This missive is going to be a bit long, but it is an extremely important
milestone in the ever-widening struggle to get to the bottom of the
so-called "Holocaust."

The message I want to convey today is very simple:  That if you plant oats,
you will definitely get oats and not wheat.  Or, paraphrased:  The words
you call into the forest are bound to boomerang as echo.

Sabina Citron, who is suing Ernst Zundel for things he posted on the
Zundelsite, has called into the forest.  The echo will contain this:  The
political, financial and institutional anatomy embodying the "Holocaust".
The blueprint of the Holohoax.  The game plan of the Holohuggers-and why it
is so easy, so profitable and so safe to snuggle up to it.

On May 28, 1996, Ernst Zundel wrote in a press release:

". . . The Holocaust promoters seem to have shifted strategy in their
relentless efforts to keep a challenge to dubious "Holocaust" assertions
away from the Internet.

The latest move is a privately laid civil law suit for personal libel
against Ernst Z=FCndel, the world's foremost proponent of impartial public
investigation into scientifically and forensically challenged "Holocaust"
claims.

Sabina Citron of Toronto, Canada, an immensely wealthy auto parts factory
owner and one-time president of the "Canadian Holocaust Remembrance
Association", has hired one of Toronto's top legal firms to sue Z=FCndel in
Civil Court for material published on the Zundelsite.

Citron is an old nemesis and fierce political opponent of Z=FCndel's who has
for years waged a protracted struggle to silence his message.  This is her
6th  attempt to silence Z=FCndel.  She has lost, or failed in, all previous
ones.

This latest move will be of special interest to civil litigation lawyers,
law professors, law students, etc. who are involved in watching what is
happening as Freedom of Speech-especially concerning the Holocaust and
related issues-is being curtailed by special interests on the Internet and
elsewhere.

There are few precedents yet relating to Internet censorship as they
pertain to "libel".  . . .

In previous legal challenges initiated by Sabina Citron and her Holocaust
Remembrance Association to Z=FCndel's writings that appeared in conventional
print and were dispursed by conventional means, a judge imposed a draconian
gag order on Z=FCndel lasting off and on for almost 9 years while litigation
was going on.  As a result, Z=FCndel could not refute media slander and libe=
.l
and even outright lies about him.

This litigation was ultimately won by Ernst Zundel in the Canadian Supreme
Court on August 27, 1992.

Should a similar move succeed this time, it would be an effective way of
silencing a politically inconvenient voice on the Internet by finding ways
of making it appear as though this was a private matter between two
antagonistic parties and not a discussion of differing views on a
controversial historical topic with diametrically opposed German and Jewish
viewpoints.

The world-wide Internet community is well acquainted with the Zundelsite
efforts to get to the bottom of many of the fraudulent Holocaust claims-as
was amply demonstrated in the Simon Wiesenthal Center efforts at the
beginning of this year to curtail, censor and ultimately shut down websites
like the Zundelsite.

Deutsche Telekom even got involved by blocking all access to the 1,500
clients on Zundel's server, Webcom, in the hope that Webcom would kick
Z=FCndel off, as others had  done before-a move that was soundly defeated
through technical counter-moves by world-wide, computer-wise
=46reedom-of-Speech proponents.

This unfolding "libel" strategy will be immensely interesting for the legal
professions as well as communicators and broadcasters world-wide-and media
law people specifically. . .  "

These are the points enumerated in the communications from Citron's
lawyers, brought to you here in somewhat shortened form:

"TAKE NOTICE that Sabina Citron complains in the following articles,
published on the "Zundelsite" Internet Website and seen by her on May 15,
1996, are defamatory of her.  In each case, Mrs. Citron states that the
articles contain false and defamatory statements about her and that the
articles were published maliciously.

Without limiting the natural and ordinary meanings and innuendos of the
article, Mrs. Citron complains that the article was maliciously intended,
meant and understood to mean that:

*       Mrs. Citron is responsible for the promotion of erroneous facts
related to the Holocaust;

*       Mrs. Citron is responsible for the promotion of the "unconscionable
consequences of the Holocaust" including the conduct described below;

*       Mrs. Citron engages in extortion

*       Mrs. Citron is implicated in crimes, rackets, shady deals,
extortion or war crimes against Germans and others; and

*       Mrs. Citron has engaged in frivolous and vindictive conduct

*       Mrs. Citron is a member of or has co-operated with terrorist
organizations;

*       Mrs. Citron improperly participated in a terror telephone campaign
to harass Mr. Zundel;

*       Mrs. Citron has obtained improper access to the courtroom and to
the crown attorney during Mr. Zundel's 1985 trial;

*       Mrs. Citron improperly participated in a campaign to have Mr.
Zundel deported to Germany;

*       Mrs. Citron has been ostracized by the Jewish community

*       Mrs. Citron is perpetuating a lie in attempting to keep the memory
of the Holocaust alive;

*       Mrs. Citron improperly urged people to engage in the harassment of
politicians;

*       Mrs. Citron advocates a draconian, dictatorial form of government

*       Mrs. Citron is a member of a vindictive and militant organization;

*       Mrs. Citron is a vigilante

*       Mrs. Citron engages in terrorism and brow beats and persecutes true
patriots

*       Mrs. Citron engages in a parasitic extortion racket;

*       Mrs. Citron is an enemy of freedom in Canada and the world;

*       Mrs. Citron enforces false historical facts;

*       Mrs. Citron engaged in an illegal conspiracy with a Justice of the
Peace either to fail to create records of a court proceeding or to destroy
court records;

*       Mrs. Citron has reason to fear revelation of the discussion she had
with the Justice of the Peace at the time she swore an information against
Mr. Zundel.

*       the charges that Mrs. Citron brought against Mr. Zundel were ridicul=
ous;

*       Mrs. Citron is engaged in promoting a horrific blood libel;

*       Mrs. Citron's activities, in keeping alive the memory of the
Holocaust, are perverse;

*       Mrs. Citron has conspired with others to influence Canadian and
German authorities to act improperly;

*       Mrs. Citron is engaged in censorship, repression and abuse of the
process of the courts;

*       Mrs. Citron has engaged in conduct analogous to mass murder;

*       Mrs. Citron has lied about the Holocaust;

*       Mrs. Citron has abused the processes of the court by "shopping
institutions and judges";

*       Mrs. Citron would lie, cheat or falsify information in connection
with her efforts to keep the memory of the Holocaust alive;

*       Mrs. Citron has engaged in an illegal conspiracy against Mr. Zundel
with the German government.

*       Mrs. Citron's charges against Mr. Zundel were madcap, spurious or
frivolous and thus an abuse of the process of the court.

*       Mrs. Citron's actions had improperly cost the taxpayers of Canada
approximately $6 million.

*       Mrs. Citron engaged in an illegal conspiracy with a Justice of the
Peace either to fail to create records of a court proceeding or the
recording of or to destroy court records;

*       Mrs. Citron behaved inappropriately in the course of judicial
proceedings;

*       Mrs. Citron engaged in an illegal conspiracy with government
officials against Mr. Zundel.

*       Mrs. Citron has abused the processes of the court, and

*       Mrs. Citron engaged in an illegal conspiracy with a Justice of the
Peace either to fail to create records of a court proceeding or to destroy
court records.

*       Mrs. Citron engaged in an illegal conspiracy with the Government of
Ontario to use government money improperly to persecute Mr. Zundel."

So there you have it.  Remember:  Ernst has NO CHOICE BUT to fight back and
to address the charges above.  And try to imagine the Revisionist gold that
is embedded in these 39 charges-fought in the open on the Zundelsite-for
all the world to see?

Of course, the crucial question next will be:  Will there still BE a
Zundelsite once mano-a-mano gets underway?  Ernst certainly expects an
interlocutory decree attempting to close shop.

We'll see.  You may be SURE there's going to be a struggle to make the
feathers fly.

Ingrid

Thought for the Day:

"What contemptible scoundrel stole the cork from my lunch?"

W. C. Fields








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display umlauts properly (thanks, Bill). The ZGram list membership that
accompanied yesterday's missive (328 email addresses) is appended after
Ingrid's "Thought for the Day."

Today's birthdays: Edgar Snow; Herbert Marcuse; Vladimir Vladimirovich
Mayakovsky; Ignaz Seipel; Lizzie Borden; Francois-Alphonse Aulard;
Mizuno Tadakuni; and Muhammad ibn Isma'il al-Bukhari. 

And now, today's Zundelgram:

July 19, 1996
Good Morning from the Zundelsite:

Yesterday was definitely not my day!  Many of you are very upset, and I
will tell you now what happened and what didn't happen.

=46or some weeks now, I have been having problems with my e-mail.  Weird
things were going on.  Some ZGrams would return to me as =0B"undeliverable",
yet when I queried people, they said that they received them.  Some
received them in multiples - one person in Sweden reported as many as 14!

Others, even in the United States, did not receive them at all, even though
they had no trouble receiving individual letters.  Still others would
receive my ZGrams erratically - some missing, some in multiples.

Worse yet, there came a time when it seemed next to impossible to send any
ZGrams at all from my list.  I worked with my server, who tried to be
helpful, and he told me to break down the list into smaller chunks;  maybe
it was too big.

I did, and things got even worse.  My server told me also that my problems
seemed to have to do with Sprint, and that he did not think it was
political - but to keep watching what was happening and to report to him.

One thing I noticed was that when my Eudora beach ball started spinning, it
would always stop and block at certain names I knew to be key names in the
movement.  I have now been watching this for a couple of weeks, and it is
always the same pattern.  Lately, the letters seemed to go through okay,
albeit with some "stops", and so I just kept on watching - which is what I
did yesterday.

As I was watching the Eudora beach ball spin, I noticed that it repeated
the list.  In other words, the names on my ZGram list went through the
system TWICE.

I immediately checked if I had made a mistake - but I cannot see that I
did.  I update my list every day, but I did NOT put the names into the
system twice.  I don't know what this means.  Was it my program?  My
server?  Was it a hacker job?

Within hours if not minutes, a woman named Cecelia started abusing my list
by asking "ZGram subscribers" to join a "Revisionist discussion list."

Now who is Cecelia, you ask?

I have known Cecelia from her e-mail messages for almost a year, and I can
only tell you that my radar is up and has been on red for a long time.
Why?  Because she leaves her fingerprints all over her letters, and it is
Yiddish German.  She says it isn't Yiddish;  it's Augsburg dialect -  but
trust me, it is Yiddish.  Any native German will tell you it is Yiddish.

Suffice it also to say that she has been warmly endorsed by Rich Graves
whom many of us know and whose "inventiveness" for causing mischief to our
cause seems to be inexhaustible.  (He sent a snicker, too.)

I immediately wrote to Cecelia and asked her not to use my list.
Specifically, I wrote:

"I would VERY MUCH appreciate it if you would NOT use my list for your
purposes."

She wrote me back:

"Well, that is up to the individuals.  I (sic) somebody writes me back (and
so far, one already has) asking to be included on the Revisionist
discussion list when I get it up, then I will include them.  Everybody saw
my notification of the forthcoming list and all are free to ask to be
included or to ask to be excluded.

But I am not going to automatically put everybody from your list on my
list.  So you don't have to worry about that. I have compiled my list of
Revisionists and non-Revs interested in Revisionism from several sources."

Well, then I knew - and now you know.  From there, it went from bad to
worse.  All day yesterday, people have been flooded with unwanted mail;
some even with old ZGrams.  They did not come from me.

That's all that I can tell you.  I am sorry that it happened, but you have
to realize that of all the "politically incorrect" websites, the Zundelsite
is probably the most visible and vulnerable one.  If there is a way to hurt
or sabotage our work, our enemies will do it.  You can be sure of that.

I have had five or six cancellations so far - and all but one came
yesterday.  I faced my computer this morning with trepidation, thinking
that I would probably face losing half of my list - but today there was
only one  additional cancellation.  People seem to realize what has
happened, and that letter Cecelia wrote in her initial solicitation is so
transparent in intent that I don't think too much will come of this latest
interference.

This gives me now an opportunty to say something else that I have wanted to
say for a long time, and it is this:  The Zundelsite is not running a peep
show.  What we have to say, and what we are trying to do, can see the light
of day and stand up to public scrutiny.  Ernst Z=FCndel is the most
over-investigated, scrutinized, probed and observed political activist I
have ever known.  To be on our list carries a certain risk of being
observed and vilified by the enemies of truth, but that comes with the
territory.  You may be sure that if your name is on our list, sooner or
later, someone will try to get at you and see what comes of thatu.  It is
my understanding that it is relatively easy to get hold of most anybody's
list.

Some of us feel that we have no choice but to be visible - at certain risk
to ourselves.  Some feel they can't risk tha - as yet.  I may have felt
like that two years ago;  now I no longer do because I realize what it will
cost me if I don't do what I know is right.  The movement, at this point,
is very rough and raw.  We need good people willing to stand up and say:
"I am drawing my line in the sand."

I can understand your upset, and I wish it hadn't happened - and I can't
tell you how glad I am that not more of you, upset as you were, asked to be
taken off the list.  I will be happy to do that if that is what you wish.

If you stay on, there will be people who will know.  I don't think it will
work for you in the long run to be afraid of what might happen to your
name, or  your career, or your own safety if you are afraid to be on a
perfectly legitimate quest - which is, at this point in our movement, the
following:  "If we can't trust the so-called "Holocaust" claims to be true,
what else is being hidden from our eyes?"

At this point, I ask only this:  Don't use my list to bombard others, even
with the best intentions.  And if you receive messages that SEEM to come
>from  me or Ernst but read a little strange, please take them with a grain
of salt.

Ingrid

Thought for the Day:

"We are going to have to find ways of organizing ourselves cooperatively,
sanely, scientifically, harmonically and in regenerative spontaneity with
the rest of humanity around earth. . . We are not going to be able to
operate our spaceship earth successfully nor for much longer unless we see
it as a whole spaceship and our fate as common.  It has to be everybody or
nobody."

Buckminster Fuller






[End of July 19th ZGram]

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The night of July 20th, 1944, Count Claus von Stauffenberg was summarily
executed for his part in an attempt to assassinate Adolf Hitler and end
the war. http://pacific.st.usm.edu/~kebryant/ww12.html

Today is also the birthday of Uwe Johnson, Max Lieberman, and Petrarch.

And now, the daily Zundelgram:

Good Morning from the Zundelsite:

Ernst tells me that the term ZOG was born out of important literary work at
the Zuendel-Haus in the 1970s by an American writer named Eric Thompson who
had attended US spy schools and who later returned to the USA.

ZOG stands, of course, for "Zionist Occupation Government," connoting the
common perception that what we are seeing in this global struggle for
control for man's mind comes from the highest governmental levels.

Certainly here in America, the term ZOG is now in the public domain, and
people who would violently disagree with what Revisionists are saying have
little trouble with ZOG as a valid concept and construct.

We even have books by that title.  You see it on T-Shirts and bumper
stickers.  In weeks and months to come, you will see ZOG used ever more
frequently by writers because it has entered popular speech and parlance in
the USA and Canada.  It is very much part of the vocabulary of the
alternative media and is now filtering into lapdog media dispatches.

In the ZGram below and in ZGrams to come, I will use ZOG as a summarizing
word tool, much in the way "The Flower Generation" might describe the
hippies of the 60's, and "The Jet Set" the lifestyle of the rich.

I hasten to add that logic dictates that not everybody who was young in the
60's was a Flower Child, and not everybody rich indulges in the Jet Set
lifestyle.  Similarly, not every Jew is part of ZOG-but many influential
ones are, and when writers like myself use this term, not only are these
Jews addressed but also, let's be very clear! their nest-fouling toadies,
lackeys and yes-men who come out of the Aryan ranks.

ZOG has been doing something very clever in the consistent pairing of the
words:  "Pornography-and-Neo-Nazi" or its derivatives. In Canada, for
instance, you have "Pornography-and-Hate-Literature Units" in the Police
Force, and Canada Customs equates anyone who has any Revisionist views with
sexual perverts of the worst kind.

The idea is to make unwary people think that the two go together and one
means practically the other.  This jingle will fix in all-too-many people's
minds a firm mental picture of smut, just as the pairing of
"Judeo-Christian" will call forth tolerance for non-Christian ideas and
attitudes (or so ZOG hopes!) and "Law-and-Order" will make us think that
one equals the other.

Of course we know better, but the consistent pairing of two words is a
psychologically very powerful shortcut toward a politically desirable end.
You learn that by studying Guthrie in Psych 101.

So what is is happening if people are repeatedly subjected to the
linguistic shortcut "Pornography and Neo-Naziism"?  "Pornography and
anti-Semitism"? "Pornography and hate-mongering?"

I'll tell you by example by using a vivid vignette for illustration
purposes, again in my favorite way-via fable.

The parable below is borrowed from Jürgen Graf who told it at the 1994
Annual IHR Conference where he gave a fine and thoughtful presentation.  I
understand this speech is in the November/December 1995 IHR Journal, but it
is not yet on-line.  (We will have it shortly in German, and it is well
worth reading).

This fable has it that once upon a time there was a bird who was happily
brooding his eggs.  This bird was trusting, humble and complacent, and did
not notice that his eggs were stolen by the fox.

This fox, in his devious ways, tried to cover his theft and replaced the
stolen eggs with stones, in the dark of the night, one rock at a time.
This bird-I bet you he was Aryan!-had no idea what had happened and kept on
spreading his protective wings, confident that those hard rocks would in
due time turn into a fine set of chicks.

The fox, however, had an enemy, who told the bird that rocks were rocks,
took them away, and gave him back his eggs, all in one happy swoop.

You would have thought the bird would have been overjoyed!

Not so.  The bird had been habituated to his rocks.

The bird went absolutely crazy and started attacking the "unfamiliar" eggs,
dancing and screeching and flapping his wings, and even attacking the man
who had picked off the fox-because no fox, no rocks!

It's hard to let go of illusions.  Saul Bellow has said that a great deal
of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is
deep.

Of course the question is:  How long will it take for the bird to realize
that he has been brooding on rocks?

Ingrid

Thought for the day:

"Man is ready to die for an idea, provided that idea is not quite clear to him."

Anatole France



From zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org Sat Jul 20 21:46:09 PDT 1996
Article: 51745 of alt.revisionism
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The little man in Gord McFee's computer said:
!In article <199607187423.ACB9823@infinity.c2.org>,
!zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org (E. Zundel Repost) said:
.!
!>Today we wish a happy birthday to Vidkun Quisling, aka Abraham Lauritz
!>Jonsson (can anyone guess why his name changed?), who ruled Norway for all
!>of five days from April 9th, 1940 to April 15th, 1940, at which time the
!>Nazis deposed him for incompetence.
.!
!And who was executed as a traitor after the war.  And whose name will live
!in recorded memory as synonymous with "traitor".  Interesting pantheon of
!heroes you have there, Frau Zuendel.

No, that was me, not Ingrid. The Zundelgrams start after the date and
"Good Morning from the Zundelsite." Stuffs before that is a daily message
>from  the Zundelgram posting script's config file, prepared at least 12
hours so before the Zundelgrams are written. As long as Ingrid uses her
usual posting format, the ZGrams are posted automatically with the text
and headers from the config file first.

Sorry for the confusion. As a little bird once told me, "Pay Attention!"

The ZundeLibrarian writes:

}FWIW, Ingrid does know what "quisling" means. This is from the untitled
}March 31st Zundelgram, which was mostly an attack on Jamie McCarthy:
.}
}  Nobody could have predicted the rabid reaction to what we were going
}  to do. World-wide, a brutal censorship move was unleashed, and to this
}  day, if news clips tell us anything, there are some quisling
}  governments Europe and individuals in power practically next door still
}  shaking in their boots.
.}
}However, she did not understand the word's etymology until she was
}corrected by an unidentified correspondent, probably Grosvenor. This is
}from the ZGram dated April 2nd:
.}
}  BTW, in ZGram of 96/03/31, you used the term "quisling" in a
}  pejorative manner. I had always thought that Vidkun Quisling was on our
}  side, which, as the way I see it, numbers him among the righteous.
.}
}Does this help?

This is as good a time as any to mention that whoever uploads the ZGrams
to the ZSite is starting to learn HTML as Marc Lemire becomes increasingly
busy with other matters. Recent Zundelgrams have been posted to the ZSite
in HTML format rather than Acrobat PDF.

Oh, by the way, we have never had a Zundelgram delayed or duplicated. Hey
Ingrid: maybe Greg Raven is receiving the ZGrams twice because you have
him on the list twice, once as ihrgreg and once as greg.ihr. You might
also think about removing brsmith@valleynet.com, since his account has
closed weeks ago. Someone needs to go to list mom school.

Love,
-- 
The e. ZuNdEl RePoSt CaBaL
zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org
also: ezundel@alpha.c2.org


From zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org Sun Jul 21 19:27:14 PDT 1996
Article: 51943 of alt.revisionism
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As you may be aware, on July 18th, Ingrid Rimland accidentally put her
mailing list in the Bcc field instead of the Cc field, thereby making it
available to all readers. When Ingrid made a similar mistake on March
24th, she apologized. This time, she has chosen to blame her mistake on a
conspiracy. 

In the interest of full disclosure, following is the full text of the
unsolicited email from "NSWPP," http://www.pafb.af.mil/deomi/nswpp.htm,
to all ZGram subscribers. There were 15, with the subject lines below.
The messages are digested in standard mailbox format, with full headers
save the last Received:.

Subject: Introduction to the New N.S.W.P.P.
Subject: What Is National Socialism?
Subject: The Cotswolds Declaration of 1962
Subject: National Socialism and Conservatism
Subject: Ten Principles of National Socialist Thought
Subject: A Purpose In Life
Subject: Who Is George Lincoln Rockwell?
Subject: Struggle For The Soul Of A Race
Subject: The Fable of the Ducks and Hens
Subject: 30 Questions On Oklahoma City
Subject: Racial Leadership Standards
Subject: "The Arrangement"
Subject: A Reckoning
Subject: The Great Paradox
Subject: The Curse of Cassandra

------------ >8 CUT HERE 8< ------------

>From nswpp@earthlink.net Sun Jul 21 11:25:06 1996
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From: NSWPP-CSU 
Subject: Introduction to the New N.S.W.P.P.

Dear Comrades In Struggle:
.>
>        This is to advise you that the e-mail address of the National
>Socialist White People's Party (N.S.W.P.P.) is as above. Should the above
>address become no longer valid, i.e. we get pulled off the Net by the Jews
>through their usual pressure, as has occurred in the past with other groups,
>our alternate e-mail address is hcovington@gnn.com. Our mailing address is
>P.O. Box 9444, Chapel Hill, N.C. 27515-9444, U.S.A. Our web site is
>http://members.aol.com/ct8994/private/nswpp/nswpp.html.
.>
>        Commonly called the American Nazi Party, the NSWPP was originally
>founded in 1958 by the late U. S. Navy Commander George Lincoln Rockwell.
>The name was changed in 1967. After a dormant period the Party was revived
>in 1994 in order to fill a perceived gap in the American Aryan racial
>nationalist movement, which at that time had lacked any serious National
>Socialist alternative for a number of years. We believe that there is an
>urgent need for an adult, responsible National Socialist party. There are
>very many misconceptions about National Socialism, especially in the
>right-wing and militia movements, many of whose members have not yet
>progressed in their political and racial education far enough to understand
>that all their lives they have been lied to by the Establishment about Adolf
>Hitler and the true reasons for World War Two.
.>
>        We are interested in hearing from everyone who is involved in the
>struggle against the current racial, economic, social and political evils
>which beset the North American continent. If you will pardon my glomming
>onto a schlock liberal phrase, we need to concentrate on what unites us
>rather than what divides us. We are all fighting against a common enemy in
>Washington D.C., and the dedication and discipline and high degree of
>commitment which only National Socialism can produce, especially in YOUNG
>Aryans, is very badly needed.
.>
>        Please contact us for free literature and information on the Party.
>Understanding is the first key towards victory against our common enemy. For
>generations, ZOG has been telling White people who our enemies are, and we
>all know what kind of world has resulted. It's time we all stopped believing
>ZOG and started thinking for ourselves.
.>
>                                                        Yours for Victory,
.>
.>
>                                                        WINSTON SMITH
>                                                        General Secretary
>                                                        N.S.W.P.P.
.>
.>
.>

>From nswpp@earthlink.net Sun Jul 21 14:03:45 1996
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Subject: What Is National Socialism?

>                         WHAT IS NATIONAL SOCIALISM?
.>
>        National Socialism is a world view for White People, based on the
>ideas and concepts of the German racial nationalist philosopher and
>statesman Adolf Hitler (1889-1945). National Socialism was adapted to the
>political and racial conditions of the United States by the late U. S. Navy
>Commander George Lincoln Rockwell (1918-1967).
.>
>        Owing to the tragic and unnecessary suffering which took place
>during the Second World War, and because certain powerful elements in our
>society to this day maintain an interest in obscuring and concealing the
>truth, half a century after the war's end massive misconceptions still exist
>in America today about what National Socialism was and is. The National
>Socialist body of belief is founded on three principles:
.>
>        1. NATURAL ORDER. We believe that the universe is governed by
>natural laws. In order for Man to be happy and successful, he must first
>learn what these laws are and then follow them. We believe that Man is a
>part of the natural world and that he is in no way separate from or distinct
>from it. Because of this, we believe that society should be structured in
>accordance with the laws of Nature, and not in opposition to them as is the
>case today.
.>
>        2. RACIAL IDEALISM. Racial idealism is based on the love of one's
>own people. It means placing the interests and the welfare of the racial
>community to which you belong ahead of your own personal interests and
>desires. As racial idealists we have no wish to harm, exploit, or persecute
>any other racial groups, despite a persistent media propaganda campaign of
>abuse and deliberate falsification to the contrary. We are only interested
>in protecting our own people against extinction, a fate all too likely is
>nothing is done about present conditions in America.
.>
>        We believe that all men are NOT created equal. Just as every
>individual has his own strengths and weaknesses, so each race has certain
>qualities which make it different from other races. We believe that the
>White (or Aryan) race has the right to maintain its own biological,
>cultural, and political independence and integrity, and that we have the
>right to control our own destiny. We also believe that the White race has
>the right to defend itself against all physical, economic, and spiritual
>assaults, no matter where they come from.
.>
>        3. THE UPWARD DEVELOPMENT OF THE WHITE RACE. We want to do more than
>just defend our race; we want to see it improve. This can be done by
>encouraging a high birth rate among those sections of the White population
>which are the healthiest, strongest, and most intelligent. At the same time,
>our science should work to eliminate hereditary weaknesses and defects among
>our people. Our goal is that each new generation of White children will be
>better than the one before it.
>        
>        In the United States and Canada, National Socialism is represented
>by the NATIONAL SOCIALIST WHITE PEOPLE'S PARTY, which was originally founded
>by George Lincoln Rockwell in 1967 and reconstituted in 1994. The N.S.W.P.P.
>fights for the survival of the White race and for true racial justice
>through the establishment of a sovereign Aryan Republic on North American soil.
.>
>        For more information on our organization and our beliefs, contact
>the Party's Central Support Unit at: NSWPP, P.O. Box 9444, Chapel Hill,
>North Carolina 27515-9444 or send your request via e-mail to the address above.
.>
>For Aryan Victory,
>WINSTON SMITH
>General Secretary
>N.S.W.P.P.
.>
.>
.>

>From nswpp@earthlink.net Sun Jul 21 14:19:09 1996
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Subject: The Cotswolds Declaration of 1962

>                        THE COTSWOLDS DECLARATION OF 1962
.>
>      The Fundamental Statement of the Modern National Socialist World View
.>
>        I. WE BELIEVE that an honest man can never be happy in a naked
scramble for material gain and comfort, without any goal which he believes
is greater than himself, and for which he is willing to sacrifice his own
egotism. This goal was formerly provided by fundamentalist religions, but
science and subversion have so weakened all traditional religions, and given
man such an unwarranted, short-sighted conceit of his "power over Nature",
that he has in effect become his own God. He is spiritually lost, even if he
will not admit it. We believe that the only realistic goal which can still
lift man out of his present unhappy selfishness and into the radiance of
self-sacrificing idealism is the upward struggle of his race, the fight for
the common good of his people.
.>
>        II. WE BELIEVE that society can function successfully, and
therefore happily, only as an ORGANISM; that all parts benefit when each
part performs the function for which it is best suited to produce a unified,
single-purposed whole, which is then capable of out-performing any single
part, the whole thus vastly increasing the powers of all the cooperating
parts and the parts, therefore, subordinating a portion of their individual
freedom to the whole; that the whole perishes and all of the parts suffer
whenever one part fails to perform its own function, usurps or interferes
with the function of another part, or like a cancer devours all the
nourishment and grows wildly and selfishly out of all proportion to its
task---which latter is exactly the effect on society of the parasitic Jews
and their Marxism.
.>
>        III. WE BELIEVE that man makes genuine progress only when he
approaches Nature humbly, and accepts and applies her eternal laws instead
of arrogantly assuming to ignore and conquer Nature, as do the Marxists with
their theories of the supremacy of environmental influence over the genetic
truth of race, special laws of biological equality for humans only, and
their insane denial of the primitive and fundamental human institution of
private property.
.>
>        IV. WE BELIEVE that struggle is the vital element of all
evolutionary progress and the very essence of life itself; that it is the
only method whereby we have won and can maintain dominion over the other
animals of the earth; that we must therefore welcome struggle as a means of
testing and improving us, and that we must despise weaklings who run away
>from  struggle. We believe that life itself is awarded by Nature only to
those who fight for it and win it, not those who wish or beg for it as a
"right."
.>
>        V. WE BELIEVE that no man is entitled to the services or the
products of the labor of his fellow men unless he contributes at least an
equal amount of goods or services of his own production or invention. We
believe that the contribution by a member of society of nothing else but
tokens called "money" is a fraud upon his fellows, and does not excuse a man
capable of honest work of his responsibility to PRODUCE his share.
.>
>        VI. WE BELIEVE that it is to the advantage of society to see that
every honest man has freedom and opportunity to achieve his maximum
potentials by preserving his health, protecting his from unforseeable and
ruinous catastrophes, educating him to capacity in the areas of his
abilities, and guarding him against political and economic exploitation.
.>
>        VII. WE BELIEVE that Adolf Hitler was the gift of an inscrutable
Providence to a world on the brink of Jewish-Bolshevik catastrophe, and that
only the blazing spirit of this heroic man can give us the strength and
inspiration to rise, like the early Christians, from the depths of
persecution and hatred, to bring the world a new birth of radiant idealism,
realistic peace, international order, and social justice for all men.
.>
>        THESE SEVEN PRINCIPLES are the rock of our faith. With them, we
shall move the world. The political party program we adopt, based on these
principles, can and will change as events and facts change, as we discover
better methods. But these seven principles are fundamental, absolute, and
timeless truth. They will not change. We bind ourselves permanently and
without reservation to these ideals, and the battle to establish them as the
only scientific and realistic basis for human society.
.>
.>
>        FOR MORE INFORMATION on National Socialism in America, contact the
National Socialist White People's Party, P.O. Box 9444, Chapel Hill, North
Carolina 27515-9444.
.>

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Dear Racial Comrades:
.>
>        The founder of the NS Movement in America, the late Commander George
>Lincoln Rockwell, once defined the difference between National Socialism and
>conservatism as follows: "A National Socialist wants to save his RACE. A
>conservative only wants to save his MONEY."
.>
>        To some extent, I regret to report that is still true. But over the
>past few years I have seen a number of signs that many conservatives are
>finally waking up and smelling the coffee. 
.>
>        They are coming to understand that when all is said and done, almost
>all of our problems today are primarily RACIAL. The penny is finally
>dropping that the central historical force in human events is not Communism
>or capitalism or religion but RACE. You can cover the truth up with code
>words about crime and welfare and drugs, but it's all race, and I think many
>of the more advanced elements among conservatives are starting to think
>thoughts which a few years ago would have been unthinkable for them. Some of
>them are beginning to say things which a few years ago would have been
>unspeakable, as we saw in the Buchanan campaign. The Establishment simply
>can't keep the lid on much longer. RACE is busting out all over. The facts
>are simply too obvious for even the blindest of the conservatives to ignore
>any longer.
.>
>        What must now happen is that conservatives need to quit trying to
>win brownie points with the Establishment by attacking National Socialists,
>Klansmen, and the more racially advanced members of their own movement like
>Dr. Sam Francis and Jared Taylor. They need to understand and accept that
>while they may not agree with everything National Socialism believes (yet),
>the fact is that pioneers like George Lincoln Rockwell have been far more
>correct in their formulation of the problem and their predictions than many
>erstwhile "Great White Hopes" like George Wallace. Pat Buchanan has come the
>closest of all to bringing a genuine racial debate forward in this country,
>but even he crumpled under the pressure during his late Presidential primary
>campaign and tried to lick the boots of the Jews and the media by denouncing
>his own supporters if they had "extremist" backgrounds.
.>
>        My racial brothers and sisters, we have got to stop being afraid of
>words like "racist" and "extremist'. Our future and the future of our
>children and our country depend on what we do in the next few years. Let's
>not fall into the trap of slinging the Jews' mud for them because we think
>if we do so the media might cut us some slack. They won't. IF YOU OPPOSE
>"THE AGENDA" YOU ARE GOING TO BE CALLED A RACIST, A NAZI, AND AN ANTI-SEMITE
>NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY OR DO. 
.>
>        So why bother? Why not just go with the truth and spit in the eye of
>the liberals and their slavering cur lapdogs among the so-called
>"conservatives"?
.>
>                                                           For White Victory,
>                                                           WINSTON SMITH
>                                                           General Secretary
>                                                           N.S.W.P.P.
>                                                               
.>
.>
.>

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                     TEN PRINCIPLES OF NATIONAL SOCIALIST THOUGHT
.>
>        I. BE HONEST. A National Socialist faces a fact whether he likes it
>or not. Dishonesty is the mark of the enemy. National Socialism above all
>represents living truth in its purest form.
.>
>        II. BELIEVE IN GOD AND YOURSELF. The God of Destiny subjects only
>His strongest mortals to enormous tasks which would crush lesser men. God
>wills only the best to fulfill the highest task of life: to perfect mankind.
>Give yourself utterly unto Destiny, and God will shield you in your fight.
>God helps only those who help themselves. We will lose only if we lay down
>our arms due to our weakness and cowardice. There is only one true disgrace:
>submission to the enemies of our race.
.>
>        III. BE FAITHFUL TO YOUR RACE. No one must be allowed to spoil what
>Nature created down through aeons of racial evolution. Your highest purpose
>in life is to carry on that evolution toward a stronger, better, more
>beautiful mankind. The purity and strengthening of the Aryan race is the
>basic requirement of every future higher evolution.
.>
>        IV. FIGHT FOR YOUR RACE. Fight for the holy ideals of National
>Socialism, the heart of your great race. Only in this struggle can you prove
>your true worth as a man or a woman. Only thus can you fulfill your
>potential for courage, dedication, and ennobling self-sacrifice. Life's
>struggle for survival brought Man upwards from the apelike beings of the
>distant past to the height of Aryan culture and achievement. The Party's
>struggle will produce the revolutionary elite who will lead the National
>Socialist ideal to victory.
.>
>        V. YOU ARE A SUPERIOR INDIVIDUAL. You will be outnumbered in this
>struggle, because the best are always a minority. History-making decisions
>have never been the work of formless masses, but always victories by active
>and dedicated minorities. You are both the servant and the spokesperson for
>your race. Make sure you set an example worthy to be followed in your person
>and your life.
.>
>        VI. LOVE YOUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS. You owe your existence to your
>racial family; let your love of them be your overriding passion in life. Do
>not fear the Undermen, the racially inferior, and do not persecute them. You
>are their superior, but you are not their owner. When the time comes to
>fight them, do not lose your senses through counterproductive hatred. Detach
>yourself, clear your mind, and destroy them completely, methodically,
>clinically, as if in a surgical operation. Nothing is more pointless than
>wasting time hating mud people; it detracts from the positive love of your own.
.>
>        VII. IMPROVE YOUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS. All Aryan men and women are
>your brothers and sisters, although not all are equally intelligent or
>courageous. It is up to you to inform them, to encourage them, and to
>instill their hearts with courage. Some of your kinsfolk have been misled
>and made ugly by the Judaic evil which is corrupting our racial soul. You
>must not hate them on that account, but rather strive to bring them back to
>their racial family.
.>
>        VIII. REJECT THE DECADENCE. Decadence is anything which detracts
>either physically or spiritually from the health and the upward development
>of our Aryan race. You must hold your racial and spiritual purity above your
>very life, and not associate with anything which is decadent or which gives
>your life the appearance of decadence. Every aspect of life must be judged
>in relation to the survival and improvement of your race; anything hindering
>these attainments must be ruthlessly rooted out and destroyed.
.>
>        IX. THE BEST MUST RULE. All great achievements on earth are the
>product of great leadership, political or scientific or artistic. The racial
>community can gain strength only by applying the Leadership Principle and
>placing in front the men and women who have demonstrated superior ability,
>dedication, and tenacity in the racial struggle. Democracy is a sickness
>which leads inevitably to chaos, corruption, and the collapse of society;
>from democracy steps forth the cruellest of tyrants. 
.>
>        X. NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE. Where there is a will, there is a way.
>Everything falls before the man of indomitable will. Suffering and sacrifice
>are necessary; we are hardening ourselves for the most decisive struggle in
>all of human history. Victory will fall only to the most truthful, the most
>fanatical, the strongest, the bravest, and the best. Be that.
.>
>        For further information contact the National Socialist White
>People's Party, P.O. Box 9444, Chapel Hill, North Carolina 27515-9444 U.S.A.
>Originally founded in 1958 by Commander George Lincoln Rockwell, the
>N.S.W.P.P. is the standard-bearer of National Socialism in North America
>today. Find out how you can help fulfill your racial destiny, by joining and
>supporting the Party of Adolf Hitler and George Lincoln Rockwell.
.>
>                                        #
.>
.>
.>

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                       A PURPOSE IN LIFE
>>
>>        Life without purpose is mere existence. As such it has no meaning
>or value. It is worthless, of no consequence. It doesn't count.
>>
>>        Today most people exist as mere protoplasmic blobs. Spiritually and
>actually they are zeroes, nobodies, ZILCH. They are not true people, but
>zombies.
>>
>>        These walking dead have but one concern: to feel good, be "happy",
>and go along with the brainless herd. But that is not a purpose---it is
>merely an excuse for somnabulism and selfishness. It has no enduring value
>for the future.
>>
>>        Indeed, the aspirations of such sleepwalkers can be compared to
>those of a slug or a mosquito. In each instance there is nothing more than
>an inane quest for creature comfort and ego-gratification. The only
>difference is that humanoids do it in a dead-end, produce/consume society.
>>
>>        Today's artificial, materialistic, politically correct,
>neo-Bolshevik, hee-haw society can, in fact, offer no higher purpose. It can
>only serve up decadence, degeneracy, disintegration, alienation, and
>ultimately death.
>>
>>        There is an alternative, however. There is a purpose which can
>transform mere existence into real, creative LIVING and give meaning to the
>life of the individual.
>>
>>        Such purpose involves commitment to something greater than one's
>petty self. That something lies in the transcendent reality manifest in race
>and blood. In the natural community of one's own kind and in the upward
>striving of Aryan mankind toward a better world, we recognize a purpose
>truly worthy of our highest aspiration and commitment.
>>
>>        This concept is RACIAL IDEALISM, and it is the cornerstone of our
>world view. It begins with an honest recognition of one's own identity and
>heritage as part of a larger group of similarly created beings. Only then
>does individual alienation disappear. Only then does life acquire worth and
>meaning. Only then does one become a true PERSON. Only then is there the
>possibility of genuine personal fulfillment and satisfaction as the salutary
>byproduct of a higher purpose.
>>
>>        There is a cause which makes it all possible. If you believe there
>is more to life than mere self-fixation, the rat race, and a big sleepwalk;
>if you want to make your life COUNT---if you want to give it real meaning
>and value---then you should find out about this cause.
>>
>>        It is called National Socialism.
>>
>>        For more information contact the National Socialist White People's
>Party, P.O. Box 9444, Chapel Hill, N.C. 27515-9444 U.S.A.
>>
.>
.>
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.>
>                        WHO IS GEORGE LINCOLN ROCKWELL?
.>
>        George Lincoln Rockwell was born in Bloomington, Illinois, in the
>home of his maternal grandfather, on March 9, 1918. His father was a very
>successful headline comedian from 1912 until about 1935. His ancestors were
>German, French, English, and Scotch, numbering among them many Revolutionary
>War figures and going back to Marie Antoinette, the French Queen.
.>
>        Rockwell stayed in Bloomington, Illinois, only until he was old
>enough to get out of the hospital, when he was taken on the vaudeville
>circuit by his parents. He then spent some time in New Jersey, New York, and
>California, but most of his youthn was spent in Boothbay Harbor, Maine. He
>attended Hebron Academy, a prep school near Lewiston, Maine after which he
>entered Brown University in Providence, Rhode Island, majoring in
>philosophy. In college, Rockwell enjoyed and did well in the sciences and
>other objective courses, but fought blindly and instinctively against the
>"sociology" and other similar departments which, unknown to him, were then
>preaching the Marxist environmentalism and equalism which has played such
>havoc with our human, biological sciences.
.>
>        Leaving Brown in the middle of his junior year in 1940, when it
>became obvious that the U.S. would get into World War Two, Rockwell enlisted
>as a seaman in the United States Navy in Boston, Massachusetts. By the
>outbreak of World War Two on December 7, 1941 he had entered naval aviation,
>and became a scout pilot and a fighter pilot. He served aboard the U. S. S.
>Omaha in the South Atlantic and off North Africa during the invasion. He was
>then sent to the Naval Photographic School for pilots and assigned to the
>U.S.S. Wasp, and from there went to the Pacific theater. He became a
>Commander of Forward Air Control Operations for Marine Corps assault troops.
>He was at Guadalcanal, Guam, and other Pacific hot spots. At the end of
>World War II he was commanding officer of a squadron in Hawaii, earning nine
>decorations.
.>
>        Released from active duty, Rockwell attended Pratt Institute art
>school in New York, working part time in advertising and commercial art. In
>1948, while still at Pratt, he won first prize of $1,000 in the National
>Society of Illustrators competition for a full page newspaper ad for the
>American Cancer Society. Although still in the ready reserves as Commanding
>Officer of a squadron in Washington, D.C. he launched a new magazine, "U. S.
>Lady", for the wives of U. S. service men. In 1949, Rockwell founded the
>first big national advertising agency in the state of Maine. Recalled for
>the Korean War in 1950, he trained Marine and Navy pilots in close support
>of troops and then was transferred to Iceland, where he became commanding
>officer of a squadron at Keflavik.
.>
>        At about this time he became deeply concerned about the way all he
>had fought for in two wars was being turned over to Communism. He noticed
>that almost all of the convicted Communist spies and traitors such as Julius
>and Ethel Rosenberg, Nathan Silvermaster, Harry Dexter White (Weiss), Robert
>Soblen, Morton Sobell, David Greenglass, Judith Coplon, Harry Gold, Miriam
>Moskowitz, Fred Rosenberg, and Sam Cohen (chief Communist spies caught in
>Canada) and most of the Communist intellectual leaders such as Herbert and
>Bettina Aptheker, were racial Jews. He was especially shocked to find that
>"Who's Who In World Jewry", published b the Jews themselves, listed many of
>these atheist Communists very proudly as Jews, even though Rockwell then
>believed Jews were just a religion.
.>
>        Observing that Hitler had said that Communism was Jewish, and that
>the Jews were out to degenerate and conquer the White race by subversion and
>race-mixing, Rockwell bought a copy of MEIN KAMPF and read it, even though
>he thought he already knew what was in it from all he'd heard. He was
>astounded to find that it was actually a brilliant analysis of the mess
>Western Civilization had gotten into, and the only plan he'd ever seen for
>the White race to save itself.
.>
>        For a number of years, he tried to work with various "right wing"
>organizations, all of whom believed, as he did for a while, that it was
>necessary to disguise one's belief in Adolf Hitler and National Socialism.
>Finally disgusted with the emptiness, the weakness, the hypocrisy and
>especially the cowardice of the so-called "conservatives", Rockwell
>determined to ATTACK at last, flying the Swastika banner which had come so
>close to saving Western civilization and the White race. "Since our Cause is
>fundamentally the truth," he explained to horrified friends, "I do not see
>how we can win by lying or misrepresenting what we are for fear of the Jews.
>The only time in the hundred years of the rise of Communism that this plague
>has ever actually been BEATEN, it was beaten not by 'conservatives' but by
>radicals and fighters whom the enemy called Nazis and Fascists and whom they
>really did fear. Only in Germany, Spain and Italy has Communism ever been
>conquered. We are damned fools to be afraid to follow the only examples that
>ever worked!"
.>
>        He hung up a Nazi banner in front of his home and dared the Jews to
>do something about it. They---and their friends and dupes---came in droves
>and mobs to do something about it, but Rockwell survived all the shooting,
>the rocks and other Jewish "arguments". The publicity gave him a much-needed
>platform from which to call the attention of his fellow Americans to the
>increasingly desperate situation of America and our great White family of
>peoples.
.>
>        Rockwell believed it was time for the White man to take America back
>from the aliens, the minorities, and the terrorists in power, under the
>demagoguery of cheap politicians. To accomplish this Rockwell believed he
>had to win not the few in the right wing, or the upper classes, but the
>millions and millions of our people. And to win these people he had to offer
>them something besides a lot of empty platitudes about freedom and the
>Constitution. Only National Socialism offered a positive and progressive
>program for ALL Aryan people, rather than just the middle and upper classes,
>and combined a concern for the purity and protection of the White race with
>a fighting determination to stop all further mongrelization of our people.
.>
>        Within five years Rockwell had led the Nazi Party from a tiny and
>scorned band of roughnecks willing to take to the streets to fight treason
>and race-mixing, to a Party which had headquarters in Washington, Chicago,
>Los Angeles, and most major cities, and commanded the grudging respect of
>the enemy, even though there was powerful censorship of the American right
>to know what Rockwell was doing.
.>
>        Under Commander Rockwell, the Party published the ROCKWELL REPORT,
>the STORMTROOPER, and the NATIONAL SOCIALIST WORLD, along with bulletins for
>Party members only. Rockwell had plans to organize the White Guard---young,
>White fighting men to help protect society from the black and Red revolution
>which had already conquered the police departments of Los Angeles, Chicago,
>Cleveland and many other cities. 
>        
>        George Lincoln Rockwell is the father of the present-day racialist
>movement in the U.S. and the founder of American National Socialism. For
>most of his turbulent career as Commander of the A.N.P, Rockwell lived a
>shadowy existence on the fringes of the American political scene. He was
>misunderstood and rejected by the vast majority of his fellow White
>Americans, whom he loved dearly. He and his tiny band of "roughnecks" were
>alternately cursed, ridiculed and ignored by the mass media. They fought
>street battles without end against Communist and Jewish thugs who sought to
>silence them by force, and spent many a night in jail, courtesy of hostile
>politicians and police officers. Throughout it all, Lincoln Rockwell's
>warrior spirit of courage, idealism, and heroic defiance was never crushed.
.>
>        His years of persistence finally paid off in 1966, when thousands of
>White men, women, and youth in Chicago followed his leadership in a
>spontaneous uprising against efforts forcibly to integrate all-White working
>class neighborhoods. The uprising culminated in the now-famous White
>People's March of September 10th, 1966, in which hundreds of Whites followed
>Commander Rockwell's leadership under the sign of the Swastika.
.>
>        Tragically, within a year Lincoln Rockwell was dead. On August 25th,
>1967 this authentic American hero was murdered in Arlington, Virginia, under
>circumstances which have never been satisfactorily cleared up but which
>point very heavily towards the Jewish Anti-Defamation League, and also to at
>least some involvement on the part of the man who seized control of the Nazi
>headquarters and "succeeded" Rockwell. The trigger man was later convicted
>and received a short prison term; his accomplices in the corridors of power
>and the traitor within the headquarters who made the phone call telling the
>gunman where Rockwell would be were never charged or punished.
.>
>        Yet although Lincoln Rockwell died on that dark Friday in August,
>his heroic spirit lives on in the hearts and minds of White men and women
>everywhere who continue to draw inspiration from his mighty example. The
>Party he founded was reconstituted in 1994, and you may obtain further
>information by writing to the N.S.W.P.P., P.O. Box 9444, Chapel Hill, N.C.
>27515-9444, U.S.A.
.>
>        HEIL HITLER!
.>
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Dear Racial Comrades:
.>
>        The following is a reprint of the lead article in RESISTANCE #26,
>dated March 1st, 1993. Of all the articles I ever wrote, including my book
>THE MARCH UP COUNTRY, it is this one piece which has received what can be
>called universal acclaim, even if I do say so myself. It has been reprinted
>many times in many publications and translated into at least six languages
>that I know of. I personally consider it one of the best things I have ever
>written, because even more than most, STRUGGLE FOR THE SOUL OF A RACE came
>from the heart.
.>
>        I have gone to the length of re-typing this entire article into
>e-mail format and sending it to you because of the increasingly intense
>criticism, rumor-mongering, and violent personal abuse directed against
>myself and the NSWPP, due to our habit of pointing out that certain Emperors
>have no clothes. Rather than go into a long contemporary explanation, I
>believe this article from three years ago states clearly and concisely what
>I believe, why I believe it, and why I do what I do.
.>
>        I would also like to point out that this article was written:
.>
>        A) Five months before Klassen was found dead with his head in the
>toilet in the bathroom of his luxurious mountain home in Macon County, N.C.,
>an alleged "suicide". His death caused a sigh of relief in certain quarters;
>he was becoming an embarrassment.
.>
>        B) STRUGGLE appeared six months before Will W. Williams stole the
>National Alliance mailing list in September of 1993 and sold it to John
>McLaughlin and Art Jones, thus confirming in a manner which even the most
>blind could not ignore that I was entirely correct in my assessment of him; 
>       
>        C) Nine months before Williams was expelled from the National
>Alliance headquarters although still allowed to retain the title of "North
>Carolina State Organizer". Why it took so long for Dr. Pierce to move after
>the theft of his mailing list, and why a man who had stolen the mailing list
>was allowed to retain any connection at all with the NA is a puzzle. I
>suspect a large part of it was because Dr. Pierce would rather walk around
>with substantial quantities of egg on his face, pretending it wasn't there,
>than admit the unthinkable: that he had MADE A MISTAKE;
.>
>        D) Eleven months before the NSWPP was reconstituted. I cannot
>therefore be accused of having a financial or political motive for my
>comments made in 1993;
.>
>        E) Two years before the Oklahoma City bombing and the subsequent
>very strong suspicion that Will W. Williams is the mysterious "John Doe
>Number Two";
.>
>        F) Two years and nine months before the GI shootings in
>Fayetteville, North Carolina, from his involvement in which Will W. Williams
>has danced away on tiptoe like Tinkerbelle, free and clear, evidently so
>heavily protected that he was able to have a subpoena from the grand jury
>investigating the shootings quashed;
.>
>        G) Three years and two months before Dr. William L. Pierce lost the
>lawsuit brought by Morris Dees over the Klassen property and was compelled
>to pay $85,000 to some niggers in Oklahoma and all the court costs. The
>lawsuit gobbled up whatever profit Pierce realized on the Klassen spread and
>the civil judgment and the appeal (if any) will probably bankrupt the NA.
>The ghastly error in judgment which he made by becoming involved with the
>Klassen sodomy cult and Will W. Williams is henceforth as clear as a bell.
.>
>        Have I the gift of prophecy? No. I just know the Movement in general
>and Will Williams in particular.
.>
>        Finally, I apologize for the length of this e-mail and the
>subsequent problems some of you may have with downloading and storing it.
>But these things have to be said, and I hope you will find the content
worth it.
.>
>****************************************************************************
>**** 
.>
>                         STRUGGLE FOR THE SOUL OF A RACE
>                      (From RESISTANCE #26, March 1st, 1993)
.>
>The article began with a letter:
.>
>"Dear Winston:
.>
>        "One of the things I have always respected in you was your ability
>to accept constructive criticism and respond to it intelligently, and to
>understand that disagreement is not necessarily disloyalty or hostility.
>This trait alone sets you head and shoulders over most other figures on the
>racial right. I'd like a word with you about the direction RESISTANCE has
>been taking in recent months. I am sure I am not alone in my concerns.
.>
>        "It is my considered opinion that the point of diminishing returns
>has set in with regard to your single-handed crusade against the Church of
>the Creator and Benny Klassen's ex-henchman Will Williams. As you know, I
>have always applauded your efforts at exposing and debunking Old Benny
>Buttfuck's idiotic pretensions. I myself had what you refer to as the "Five
>Minute Revelation" back in 1984; after five minutes in Klassen's presence I
>understood what I was dealing with, politely made my excuses, and left. I am
>willing to give you full credit for a bravura performance where Benny is
>concerned, and I believe you probably had more to do with his sudden flight
>last June than you yourself may think. Don't sell yourself short.
.>
>        "What I question is the pursuit of the crusade beyond any apparent
>necessity I can discern for its continuation. The remnants of the cult are
>confined to the Milwaukee and southern Ontario area and appear to be falling
>apart. It is problematical whether COTC will survive for a full year without
>Klassen's money. I specifically question the wisdom of your present campaign
>against Will W. Williams. I met the man once and wasn't overly impressed
>with him, but obviously Dr. Pierce feels differently. I am given to
>understand that Williams now admits he made a mistake regarding Klassen and
>has 'turned over a new leaf', and if someone of the stature of Dr. William
>L. Pierce is willing to vouch for Williams, surely this must count for
>something? Why should he not be given a second chance to redeem himself? Nor
>can I understand your objection to Dr. Pierce obtaining a hefty profit from
>the sale of Klassen's North Carolina property, funds which will be used to
>advance the racial struggle. A major political movement cannot survive on
>little $5.00 and $10.00 donations; it needs capitalization and a sense of
>realpolitik. There is no such thing as 'dirty money' if it helps our cause.
.>
>        "Finally, I think your present policy is impolitic and is creating
>unnecessary trouble for yourself. Williams has presented you with a
>situation where you can't dig the gopher out of his hole without damage to
>the farmer's crops, so to speak. You deny that you mean to harm the
>Alliance, and I believe you; you accuse Williams (with reason) of hiding
>behind Dr. Pierce, but the fact is that to hit Williams you are going to
>have to fire through Pierce, as it were, and all that nine out of ten
>Movement people will see are the 'bullet holes' in the Alliance, not your
>actual target. If Williams is really the louse you say he is, he'll
>eventually hang himself. It's time to move on to other things."
>                                                        -N.A. Member
>                                                         Name Withheld
.>
.>
.>
>        My reply was as follows:
.>
>        I do not believe that the title above (STRUGGLE FOR THE SOUL OF A
>RACE) is in any way hyperbole or exaggeration. The response which the White
>racial nationalist movement gives as a whole to the letter reprinted on page
>one, that is to say the response we give to the kind of thinking behind it,
>may well determine whether Aryan man survives.
.>
>        It is 1993. We are running out of time. Within half a century,
>Whites will be a minority on the continent of North America, but the battle
>will be lost long before that. At some point we will cross an age median
>wherein the bulk of our people who do survive here have become too old
>actively to resist. The future that awaits America at present is of an
>increasingly elderly and infirm White population "cared for", if it can be
>called caring, by an increasingly black and brown medical and geriatric
>support establishment. I have no idea when the point of no return will be
>crossed, but the point exists and we are roaring towards it at breakneck speed.
.>
>        It is utterly essential that the White racial resistance movement
>begin developing the strategies, the tactics, the formations, and the
>ideology with which we will eventually confront the present power structure
>in bloody revolutionary struggle. We must begin doing this NOW. Not next
>year, not the year after. WE NO LONGER HAVE TIME FOR THE KIND OF BULLSHIT
>WITH WHICH WE HAVE FRITTERED AWAY THE PAST THIRTY YEARS.
.>
>        But before we can do this, it would appear that we need to decide a
>few things. We need to decide who we are. And we need to determine precisely
>by what right we claim the authority to speak in the name of our people and
>do the things necessary to save them from destruction.
.>
>        That is what the Klassen issue is all about. This is what the
>Klassen issue has ALWAYS been about. No my personal credibility, since I do
>not give a flying fornication what anyone thinks of me. Not the disgusting
>details of Klassen's deviate sexual practices, which have been known for
>years by anyone who cared to take notice. Not whether he had certain people
>killed or whether those who inconvenienced him simply developed this purely
>coincidental habit of walking into bullets and hypodermic needles. Not
>Klassen's guilt, but OURS. Not what Klassen did to us, but what we did NOT
>do about him. To write it all off as a "personal feud" between myself and
>that wretched, unutterably silly little man Will Williams is imbecilic in
>its shallowness.
.>
>        The issue is nothing less that THE ABILITY OF THE WHITE RESISTANCE
>MOVEMENT TO PLACE THE RACIAL STRUGGLE ON A MORAL BASIS. Without it we are no
>more genuine revolutionaries than South American colonels plotting a two-bit
>military coup so our gang can loot the national treasury instead of the
>current El Presidente and his lot. If we take that kind of attitude, then
>when it comes to the crunch we won't be able to hack it. We will lose, and
>our race will perish.
.>
>THE CRUCIAL MORAL DIMENSION
.>
>        People, let me tell you something. I'm scared. I'm scared by
>something I have observed in the Movement over the past four years. Scared
>of what, you ask? Scared of ZOG? Scared of the FBI? Scared of the Mossad?
>Scared of the bloodthirsty hordes of ravening National Alliance assassins
>with daggers in their teeth, who will momentarily descend from the misty
>mountain passes of West Virginia at Will Williams' command to have a talk
>with me? None of the above.
.>
>        I am frightened and worried sick by a growing tendency I observe in
>the White racial nationalist resistance, a tendency which if unchecked will
>destroy us more surely than anything Bill Clinton or Israel or the ADL could
>ever do. I refer to our increasingly manifest INABILITY TO DISTINGUISH
>BETWEEN RIGHT AND WRONG.
.>
>        I never thought I would see the day when Ernst Zundel, of all
>people, goes on speaking tours arm in arm with a Jew, David Cole. I never
>thought I would see the day when Povl Riis-Knudsen would leave his wife,
>move into sexual cohabitation with an Arab, and blithely explain that it's
>all right because Arabs hate Jews just like we do. I never thought I would
>see the day when homosexuality became tacitly accepted in the Movement to
>the point where German NS leader Michael Kuehnen would die of AIDS and still
>be honored by many. 
.>
>        And I never, ever thought in my wildest dreams that I would see the
>day when a man whom I like and respect---the writer of the letter which
>appears on page one---would seriously suggest that a thief and a
>pathological liar who for years functioned as the primary accomplice to a
>Jewish millionaire cult leader, a man who assisted that cult leader in the
>commission of fraud, libel, deviate sexual offenses and with 99.9% certainty
>the commission of murder as well, should be given a "second chance to redeem
>himself". A second chance, lest we forget, involving access on the part of
>this individual to the most sensitive information imaginable---the names and
>addresses of the members and supporters of the Movement's foremost
>organization, the National Alliance.
.>
>        Hey, call me old-fashioned. Call me an old fuddy-duddy, a curmudgeon
>so set 
>in my ways that I believe we actually ought to hold PRINCIPLES and try to
>live and act on the boring things. I mean, anything goes if it helps the
>cause, right? And what's a spot of buggery and homicide among friends?
.>
>        Thankfully, the people from whom I am getting the above rap are
>still in the minority. But what disturbs me is the fact that the people who
>ARE starting to lay all this despicable moral relativism on me are some of
>the oldest and most intelligent and most ideologically educated among us.
>They are not people who can be ignored or laughed off. I can only conclude
>that years of degenerate media propaganda are starting to take their toll
>even on us, and that the unending litany of Movement failure and mediocrity
>and disappointed frustration have combined with the general debasement of
>society as a whole to produce a jaded, opportunistic, cynical and calloused
>mindset among those who used to be our brightest and best.
.>
>        How DARE we go to the White people of America and claim the right to
>lead them, while harboring a creature like Will Williams among us? How DARE
>anyone, no matter what their credentials or how long their service, stand up
>in any Movement forum and claim that homosexuality is acceptable under ANY
>conditions? How DARE anyone have the gall to advocate that we welcome the
>presence of "good Jews" among us?
.>
>        If I sound like I'm spluttering, I am. People, I admit it---this one
>is beyond me. I simply cannot find the words to cast this sick,
>contemptible, unspeakably cowardly and despicable compromise with the filth
>far enough into the flames of hell where it belongs. It is moral vomit. It
>is leprosy of the soul.
.>
.>
>A SYMBOL OF OUR DECAY
.>
>        I referred to Little Willie previously as an unutterably silly
>little man, and so he is. But he has become something far more in the
>symbolic sense. Will W. Williams is the living, breathing incarnation of
>everything that is wrong with the White right today, the paradigm of our
>whole tragic history of failure since 1945. He has come to embody intellect
>without principle, talent without discipline, arrogance without courage,
>privilege without responsibility, and transgression without punishment.
>        
>        Will W. Williams symbolizes Movement Business As Usual---you screw
>up in one right-wing group, you just pack your grip and move on to another
>one. Like a desert nomad looking for an oasis, you roam from "patriotic"
>front to book-peddler to cluster-fucKKK to mini-Fuhrer, looking for that
>free flop and any new racist dodge which will let you live without working.
>There are always plenty on down the line, and you know all the old pros in
>the racket won't be too worried about your last Fearless Leader being a Jew
>and a faggot who had one of his bugger-boys knocked off. Hey, that's
>Movement biz, comrade! After all, we all got a skeleton or two in our
>closet, eh? (Nudge, nudge! Wink, wink!) Now how about sticking a few shekels
>in the mail to the post office box so we can keep on fightin' fer the good
>ole White race?
.>
>        This is not revolution. It is horse shit. We are where we are today
>not only because we have tolerated Will Williams per se, but because we have
>tolerated a thousand like him in the past three decades. If we do not find
>some way to deal with the problem that Will Williams poses now, then we will
>face the same problem again and again on down the line from others of his
>kind, until we learn to solve it---or until we run out of time. I wouldn't
>want to bet on which will come first.
.>
.>
>ESTABLISHING A BOTTOM LINE
.>
>        We claim the right to rule our own destinies and the destiny of this
>earth because we are superior. So we are, genetically speaking. But there is
>no point in being genetically superior if we are going to comport ourselves
>like White trash. For us to go before an Aryan race facing extinction and
>offer the likes of Will W. Williams as leadership is grotesque. It is
>bizarre. It is macabre. We are asking to the White race to go out not with a
>bang, not even with a whimper, but with a fart.
.>
>        We have to establish a level below which the individual Aryan cannot
>sink without surrendering his rights and his membership in the racial
>community, some recognized lower limit beyond which realistic political
>compromise becomes depravity. By any reasonable moral yardstick, Will W.
>Williams sank beneath that line years ago. If we tolerate his return to the
>fold, then we will tolerate anything. To give this wretch a "second chance
>to redeem himself" is an abdication of every moral value which
>differentiates us from the Jew.
.>
>        Arguably, the most salient feature of the White racial nationalist
>movement since 1945 is our complete inability to enforce any kind of
>standards, internal discipline, or sanctions against lunacy and racial
>crime. RESISTANCE is a pathetically inadequate, one-man effort at least to
>redeem our racial honor, even if this or any mere newsletter cannot be
>effective in accomplishing such a gargantuan task. In return, I get letters
>accusing me of "feuding" with people.
.>
>        Hecklers sometimes ask me if I'm such an expert, why don't I show
>everybody how it's done? Why don't I form the "Great Amurrican White Power
>Patriot Party" with myself as Grand Panjandrum, install a $49.95 K-Mart
>answering machine as a White Power Hotline, get on the talk show circuit,
>run around in the streets waving a sign, so forth and so on. Some of you may
>recall that I DID play that once upon a time. Sure, I could dig out my old
>uniform and start calling myself "Commander Siegfried" or something, and if
>I promised to wear my costume I could be on Oprah and Donahue and Sally
>Jesse Raphael within a year.
.>
>        Or I could really give it a serious go, really see if we are capable
>of doing it right. Hell, maybe I will someday. I've learned never to rule
>anything out. But the reason I don't is that I no longer have the patience
>to deal with stupidity on the part of those who claim to support the cause.
>Eventually I'd be arrested for ripping somebody's lips off. And of all the
>various kinds of stupidity which I can no longer tolerate, the worst is what
>I might describe as THE WILLFUL REFUSAL TO UNDERSTAND.
.>
>        I despise intellectual laziness. The vast majority of those who
>criticize RESISTANCE know perfectly well that I know what I'm talking about,
>know perfectly well that I am telling the truth, and know perfectly well why
>that truth so badly needs to be told. But they don't want to think about
>things like the Beatific Buggeries of Benny or Will W. Williams rooting in
>the National Alliance mailing list like a happy hog. If they think about it,
>they might feel compelled to DO something about it. They might have to
>engage in the unpleasantness of factional political struggle. They might
>have to COMMIT themselves, actually TAKE SIDES! Horrors! We can't have that!
.>
>        Laziness. Pure, bone-idle moral laziness.
.>
.>
>THE ENEMY WITHIN
.>
>        I have said it before and I will say it again. The Jews are not the
>enemy. The congoids are not the enemy. The Bilderbergers and Trilateralists
>are not the enemy. Hill and Billary are not the enemy. The international
>bankers and the Federal Reserve are not the enemy. The street-corner Reds
>are not the enemy. WE are the enemy. Everything in the White man that is
>weak, self-indulgent, morally lazy and cowardly, everything which encourages
>that WILLFUL REFUSAL TO UNDERSTAND---that is the enemy. Every one of us sees
>the enemy in the mirror every morning. He is the part of us that looks like
>Will Williams.
.>
>        As for me waging a "feud", damned straight I am! I am waging a feud
>to the death with the Enemy Within, the enemy most responsible for thirty
>years of defeat and despair and racial humiliation. The enemy so few of us
>can find the courage to admit exists, never mind face down.
.>
>        I'm not fool enough to believe that I can single-handedly defeat
>that lethal Enemy Within. But he'll damned sure know he's been in a fight.
.>
.>
>                                                -Winston Smith              
.>
.>
.>

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Subject: The Fable of the Ducks and Hens

                       THE FABLE OF THE DUCKS AND HENS
>>>                       by George Lincoln Rockwell
>>>
>>>
>>>Many, many years ago,
>>>When animals could speak.
>>>A wondrous thing the ducks befell,
>>>Their tale is quite unique.
>>>
>>>Down by a pond dwelt all these ducks,
>>>Ten thousand at the least.
>>>Their duckish joys were undisturbed
>>>By any man or any beast.
>>>
>>>One day down near the entrance gate,
>>>There was an awful din.
>>>A hundred hens all out of breath
>>>Were begging to come in.
>>>
>>>=93Oh let us in!=94 these poor birds cried,
>>>=93Before we do expire!=94
>>>=93Tis only by the merest inch
>>>That we escaped the fire!=94
>>>
>>>Their feathers burned, their combs a droop,
>>>They were the saddest sight.
>>>They=92d run a hundred miles or more,
>>>All day and then all night.
>>>
>>>=93Come, come in!=94 the ducks all quacked,
>>>=93For you our hearts do bleed!
>>>We=92ll share our happy lot with you,
>>>Just tell us what you need!=94
>>>
>>>And so these poor bedraggled hens
>>>Amongst the ducks moved in.
>>>For, after all, the ducks declared,
>>>=93We=92re sisters =91neath the skin.=94
>>>
>>>Before too many months had passed,
>>>The hens were good as new.
>>>They sent for all their rooster friends,
>>>And these were welcomed too.
>>>
>>To please their host, these chickens tried
>>>To waddle and to quack.
>>>To simulate the duckish ways
>>>They quickly learned the knack.
>>>
>>>This pleased the flock of ducks because
>>>It gratified their pride.
>>>....But hear my tale and learn how they
>>>Got taken for a ride.
>>>
>>>The ducks, it seemed, spent all their time
>>>In fixing up their place,
>>>In growing food and building homes
>>>And cleaning every space.
>>>
>>>They asked the hens what they would do
>>>To earn their daily bread.
>>>=93We=92ll teach and write and entertain,
>>>And buy and sell,=94 they said.
>>>
>>>And so these hens began to teach
>>>The baby ducks and chicks.
>>>They traded food and eggs and things,
>>>With many clever tricks.
>>>
>>>They wrote great books & put on shows,
>>>Of genius they=92d no lack.
>>>It wasn=92t long till chickens owned
>>>The Duckville Daily Quack.
>>>
>>>One day a mother duck who took
>>>Her ducklings to the lake,
>>>Was flabbergasted when one said,
>>>=93A swim I will not take!=94
>>>
>>>=93Why ducklings always swim!=94 she gasped,
>>> =93It=92s what you=92re built to do!
>>>Like bunnies hop, and crickets chirp,
>>>And cows most always moo!=94
>>>
>>>=93Your just old fashioned, a fuddy duck,
>>>That stuff is all old hat!=94
>>>=93It=92s wrong for birds to swim; ...besides,
>>>It=92s too cold on my little pratt!=94
>>>
>>>=93Oh fie!=94 the mother duck exclaimed,
>>>=93You=92re talking like a fool!=94
>>>Up quacked the other ducks and said,
>>>=93He=92s right! Ms. Hen taught us that in school!=94
>>>
>>>=93Such things must stop!=94 the mother cried,
>>>=93Those hens can=92t teach such lies!=94
>>>=93For sheer ingratitude and nerve,
>>>I=92m sure this takes the prize!=94
>>>
>>>....But she was wrong, for even then
>>>The hens did thump the tub.
>>>Demanding they be let into,
>>>The Duckville Swimming Club.
>>>
>>>=93But you don=92t swim!=94 the ducks all cried,
>>>To join, why should you care?=94
>>>=93That=92s not the point!=94 the hens replied,
>>>=93To exclude us isn=92t fair!=94
>>>
>>>The younger ducks, who=92d been to school,
>>>Agreed right there and then,
>>>=93To keep them out is bigotry!=94
>>>=93T=92would just be ANTI-HEN...!=94
>>>
>>>Outnumbered by the younger ducks,
>>>The old ducks soon did loose;
>>>They agreed to let the hens all in,
>>>If they would pay the dues.
>>>
>>>That night the Duckville Daily Quack
>>>Contained this banner spread:
>>>=93Reactionary Ducks Are Licked!
>>>DUCKVILLE MOVES AHEAD!=94
>>>
>>>Down at the Duckville Gaiety,
>>>The younger set laughed with glee,
>>>At cracks about =93Old Fuddy=92 Ducks=94
>>>In burlesque repartee.
>>>
>>>Next day the hens were at the club,
>>>A petition they=92d sent around.
>>>They objected to the swimming fund
>>>With fury and with sound.
>>>
>>>=93You use our dues to fix the pond,
>>>to keep it neat and trim.=94
>>>=93And this is wrong,=94 they said, =93Because
>>>You know we do not swim!=94
>>>
>>>=93God help us!=94 cried a wise old duck,
>>>=93These chickens have gone mad!=94
>>>=93We=92ll take this to the court, by George,
>>>And justice will be had!=94
>>>
>>>But when they went up to the judge,
>>>Imagine their dismay!
>>>A CHICKEN-JUDGE decreed that they
>>>Had a heavy fine to pay!
>>>
>>>=93Minorities must have their rights!=94
>>>The judge declared right then.
>>>=93To use hen=92s dues to fix the pond
>>>Is very ANTI-HEN...!=94
>>>
>>>Once more the Duckville Daily Quack
>>>Emblazoned across the page:
>>>=93Old Foggy Ducks Refuse to See
>>>The Great New Coming Age!=94
>>>
>>>In Duckville church on Sunday morn,
>>>The preacher spoke these words,
>>>=93Discrimination=92s got to stop!
>>>Remember we=92re all birds!=94
>>>
>>>The wisest duck in all the town
>>>Sat down in black despair.
>>>=93I=92ll write a book,=94 he thought, and then
>>>=93This madness I will bare!=94
>>>
>>>=93Let Swimmers Swim, let Hoppers Hop,
>>>Let Each One Go His Way.
>>>Let No One Coerce a Fellow Bird!=94
>>>Was what he had to say.
>>>
>>>=93Twas wrong to force the hens to swim
>>>So here=92s the problem=92s crux;
>>>It=92s just as bad for hens to try
>>>To chicken-ize our ducks!=94
>>>
>>>=93I can=92t print that,=94 the printer said,
>>>=93Twill put me in a mess!=94
>>>=93My shop is mortgaged to the hens,
>>>The chickens own my press!=94
>>>
>>>This worried duck then tried to warn
>>>His friends by speech and pen.
>>>Young ducks fresh from school just jeered
>>>=93He=92s one of those a vicious Anti-Hens...!=94
>>>
>>>Now up the stream a little way
>>>Was Gooseville, on the lake.
>>>The hens had come to Gooseville too,
>>>But the Geese were more awake.
>>>
>>>When the hens began to spoil the young
>>>And Gooseville=92s laws to flout,
>>>The Geese Rose Up in Righteous Wrath
>>>And Simply Threw Them Out...!!!
>>>
>>>Of course, you know where they all ran;
>>>On Duckville they converged.
>>>=93We=92ve got to take these refugees.=94
>>>Was all Duckville=92s hens had urged.
>>>
>>>The Duckville Daily Quack declared:
>>>=93These Geese Will Stop at Naught!
>>>=93They Plan to Conquer all the World!=94
>>>=93Atrocities They=92ve Wrought!=94
>>>
>>>=93That=92s right!=94 the young ducks agreed,
>>>=93We=92ll help our fellow birds!
>>>These Geese have plans to conquer us!
>>>....We=92ve read the Quack=92s own words!=94
>>>
>>>They let the hens from Gooseville in,
>>>The whole bedraggled pack.
>>>.... And every hen took up a job
>>>on the Duckville Daily Quack!!
>>>
>>>When the Duckville mayor=92s term was up,
>>>The Quack put up it=92s Duck;
>>>A vain and stupid duck was he,
>>>A veritable ... cluck!
>>>
>>>But when he praised the wild young ducks,
>>>And cursed the evil Geese,
>>>The Quack declared he was =93all wise,=94
>>>His praise would never cease.
>>>
>>>The hens chipped in to help this cluck
>>>Give grain away for free.
>>>The old ducks sadly shook their heads,
>>>The writing they could see.
>>>
>>>And sure enough, this stupid duck,
>>>He was elected mayor.
>>>From this point on, The Duckville ducks,
>>>They never had a prayer.
>>>
>>>The Mayor said, =93Gooseville must GO!=94
>>>=93We=92ll wipe them off the map!=94
>>>While Duckville slept, the scheming hens
>>>For Gooseville set the trap.
>>>
>>>They called the Geese by filthy names;
>>>They filled their pond with sticks.
>>>They helped the weasels catch the Geese,
>>>and other hennish tricks.
>>>
>>>The Geese got mad and threw the sticks,
>>>=93It=92s WAR!=94 the Quack announced.
>>>=93We ducks must Fight those evil Geese,=94
>>>=93Till they=92ve been soundly trounced!=94
>>>
>>>The ducks (who knew not of the tricks
>>>Indulged in by the mayor),
>>>Were filled with patriotic zeal,
>>>And pitched right in for fair!
>>>
>>>So when the ducks whipped the Geese,
>>>The Mayor called =93Retreat!!=94
>>>=93Our HENVILLE friends should really take Gooseville=92s big main=
 street!=94
>>>
>>>The hens were back in Gooseville now;
>>>They starved and beat the Geese.
>>>They prayed for =93Peace=94 =97 but organized
>>>The =93HENVILLE ARMED POLICE!!!=94
>>>
>>>They drained the Geese=92s swimming pond,
>>>They =93De-Goose-ified=94 their schools;
>>>They wrung the Gooseville mayor=92s neck On lately mad-up rules.
>>>
>>>They formed a council of the hens;
>>>=93UNITED BIRDS=94 the name.
>>>The other birds who joined the thing
>>>Did not perceive the game.
>>>
>>>No sooner had they set this up,
>>>Than they announced their hennish plan:
>>>To seize up Swanville as a home
>>>For all their hennish clan.
>>>
>>>They took a vote among the hens,
>>>And everyone approved!
>>>=93Swanville was for HENS!=94 they said,
>>>=93Way back, before we moved,=94
>>>
>>>And so they kicked the swans all out,
>>>With Duckville=92s help and power
>>>And Duckville couldn=92t understand
>>>Why swans, on them turned sour.
>>>
>>>By this time, Duckville was a mess,
>>>The young ducks had all gone mad.
>>>They stole and laughed at Truth and Law;
>>>They went completely =93bad.=94
>>>
>>>The hens were selling Loco Weed
>>>in every nasty den.
>>>But ducks who dared to mention this,
>>>Were labeled =93ANTI-HEN...!=94
>>>
>>>The hens all preached of =93Tolerance,=94
>>>They invoked the =93Golden Rule,=94
>>>But they subsidized the indigent,
>>>The greedy and the fool.
>>>
>>>At last the very dumbest ducks
>>>Began to smell a rat.
>>>=93This mayor is no good!=94 they cried,
>>>=93And we will soon fix that!=94
>>>
>>>But the hens had planned for even this
>>>A candidate they had,
>>>Whom even wise old ducks believed
>>>Just never could be bad.
>>>
>>>This Hen-tool duck whipped the Geese,
>>>A soldier Duck was he.
>>>Although the hens had set him up,
>>>The Ducks all thought him free.
>>>
>>>This Hen-tool got elected,
>>>Through ignorance and greed,
>>>Through hennish lies in Press & Speech,
>>>Through Bribes of =93Chicken Feed.=94
>>>
>>>The hens now kicked the ducks around
>>>Without a blush of shame,
>>>Until the mayor ran the town
>>>In nothing else but name.
>>>
>>>They pumped the Duck=92s pond all dry;
>>>They taught the ducks to crow,
>>>While duckish numbers dwindled,
>>>The hens began to grow.
>>>
>>>The hens stirred up the happy crows
>>>From out of the piney wood,
>>>To Fight to Mix and Marry ducks
>>>in the name of =93Brotherhood.=94
>>>
>>>Things got so bad that fifty ducks,
>>>Who knew the days gone by;
>>>Took up their wives and children
>>>And decided that they=92d fly.
>>>
>>>They flew through storms and tempest;
>>>They froze, and many died.
>>>But on they drove, until, at last,
>>>A lovely lake they spied.
>>>
>>>They settle down exhausted,
>>>But soon went straight to work;
>>>To build and clear and cultivate,
>>>No danger did they shirk.
>>>
>>>Now after many years of toil,
>>>This little band had grown.
>>>The fields around were full of grain
>>>From seeds that they had sown.
>>>
>>>The first ducks were long since dead;
>>>Their struggles long had ceased.
>>>Through hard work and suffering,
>>>Their joys had been increased.
>>>
>>>One day down near the entrance gate
>>>There was an awful din;
>>>A hundred hens, all out of breath,
>>>Were begging to come in.
>>>
>>>=93Oh, let us in!=94 these poor birds cried,
>>>=93Before we do expire!=94
>>>=93Tis only by the merest inch....=94
>>>=93... ... ... ...=94
>>>
>>>....This epic really has no end,
>>>Because No matter how you fight em,
>>> Those HENS=92ll show up Every Time.
>>>
>>>And So, ...Ad Infinitum ...!!!
>>
>>
>>         For more information on the life and career of George Lincoln
>Rockwell,
>>contact the National Socialist White People's Party, P.O. Box 9444, Chapel
>>Hill, N.C. 27515-9444 U.S.A.
>>
>>
>>
.>
.>
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>                       THIRTY QUESTIONS ON OKLAHOMA CITY
.>
>        1. If the bombing of the Alfred E. Murrah Federal building in
>Oklahoma City was a terrorist reprisal for the Federal massacre of the
>Branch Davidians at Waco, why were no BATF or FBI agents injured? Why was
>EVERY BADGE-CARRYING FEDERAL AGENT absent from work at nine o'clock on a
>weekday morning and their offices staffed only with civilian clerical workers?
.>
>        2. When the word first got out that no Federal agents had been
>present in the building, the BATF produced its Resident Agent Alex McCauley
>who told a long story about his own heroism and that of a fellow ATF man who
>allegedly fell three floors in an elevator, walked away from it, and then
>helped rescue others trapped by the bomb. This was quickly exposed as a
>fabrication in an angry interview by building maintenance supervisor Duane
>James, who described McCauley's story as "pure fantasy". James examined the
>elevator in question and also the central control panel and pointed out a
>number of technical and logical reasons why the miraculous elevator incident
>simply couldn't have happened in the way claimed. The McCauley account was
>quietly retracted and flushed down the memory hole by the ATF, with the help
>of the media. They now admit that McCauley was nowhere near the building
>when the bomb went off, although they refuse to discuss his exact
>whereabouts or the whereabouts of any other ATF agent at the time of the
>explosion.
>        Will BATF Agent Alex McCauley be disciplined for telling a
>self-serving lie which falsely made himself out to be a hero? If that was
>not the purpose, why did he make this palpably false public statement?
.>
>        3. Why was U.S. Judge Wayne Alley, whose office was located in the
>Federal building, warned several weeks in advance in a Justice Department
>memo to be prepared for an unnamed "terrorist act" directed against the
>Federal building?
>        
>        4. Judge Alley made the above admission to the Portland OREGONIAN
>immediately after the bombing. He has since refused to repeat it or allow
>himself to be interviewed again. Why?
.>
>        5. Why did Ken Stern of the American Jewish Committee fax warnings
>to Federal judges and officials, legislators, and prosecutors warning of a
>possible attack on a government building of installation on the second
>anniversary of Waco on April 10th, 1995, nine days before the OKC bombing?
.>
>        6. "Norma", a witness who worked in an office building just down the
>street from the Federal building, told reporter Sherry Koonce what she saw
>prior to the explosion: "The day was fine, everything was normal when I
>arrived for work at about 7:45 A.M. There was some talk about the bomb squad
>among the employees at our office. We wondered what it was doing in our
>parking lot. Around nine I heard and felt a huge explosion. Then someone
>said it had to be a bomb, and we all knew. I remembered the bomb squad in
>our parking lot and knew what had happened."
>        "Norma" has since quit her job, gone into hiding and refused to
>speak again to any reporters or investigators. So have a number of other
>people who saw the heavily armed and equipped bomb squad in the area up to
>three hours before the blast. Why?
>        
>        7. Why has all mention of the facts outlined in questions 1 thru 6
>disappeared from the news media after the first week of coverage of the
>bombing? Why has the media consistently suppressed and refused to report any
>information or evidence which indicates that, at the very least and
>regardless of who was responsible, there was Federal foreknowledge that the
>bombing would take place?
.>
>        8. By definition, a terrorist must take credit for his violence, or
>else there is no compelling reason to commit a crime. The specific purpose
>of terrorism is to gain a political end through the credible threat to
>commit future acts of violence. No one has claimed credit for the Oklahoma
>City bombing. Militia and right-wing groups, the alleged masterminds and
>presumed beneficiaries, have been particularly vehement in denouncing the
>explosion and in many cases have cooperated directly with Federal agencies
>to absolve themselves of any involvement. The only statement of alleged
>political motive we have comes from the very government which was attacked.
>Why is this?
.>
>        9. Did the Alfred Murrah building warehouse documents relating to
>the attack on the Branch Davidians at Waco? If so, what happened to those
>documents? Were they destroyed? If so, were any copies kept elsewhere? If
>not, why not?
.>
>        10. Will the missing papers, if any, affect former Attorney General
>Ramsey Clark's lawsuit against the ATF and FBI on behalf of the Branch
>Davidian survivors?
.>
>        11. Why did the Director of the University of Oklahoma's Geological
>Survey, Dr. Charles Mankin, tell the media that according to two different
>seismographic records there were TWO blasts, the second approximately eight
>seconds after the first?
.>
>        12. The news media initially reported two explosions, based on
>eyewitness testimony. Why did this version of events disappear from print
>and the air waves within twenty-four hours?
.>
>        13. U.S. government Technical Manual No. 9-1910 from the Department
>of the Army and Air Force entitled MILITARY EXPLOSIVES, which specifies that
>ANFO, the acronym for Ammonium Nitrate and Fuel Oil bomb said to be used on
>the Murrah building, requires a greater than 99% purity of ammonium nitrate,
>as well as a specific dryness before it can be mixed with diesel fuel to
>create an explosive substance. The manual further spells out that even under
>ideal conditions (not often reached even by experts) 4,800 pounds of ANFO
>explosive would create a much smaller crater than the one left in front of
>the Murrah building, and its shock wave could not possibly wield the force
>necessary to compromise the building's concrete support. The FBI claims that
>the ANFO charge was made from 50 bags of fertilizer. Ammonium nitrate
>fertilizers comes in much weaker concentrations than the 99%-plus required
>for explosives. Creating concentrated amounts of ammonium nitrate is quite
>complex, and would require many bags of fertilizer. In short, according to
>the government's own textbook, the Oklahoma City bombing COULD NOT HAVE
>HAPPENED IN THE WAY THE FBI SAYS IT HAPPENED. IT IS A PHYSICAL, CHEMICAL,
>AND THERMODYNAMIC IMPOSSIBILITY.
>        Why is the FBI lying?
.>
>        14. Retired Air Force Brigadier General Benton K. Partin, former
>commander of the Air Force Armament Technology Laboratory, a 25-year expert
>in the design and development of bombs, urged Senators and Congressmen to
>delay the destruction of the Murrah building site. Partin stated in a news
>release, "When I first saw the picture of the truck bomb's asymmetrical
>damage to the Federal building in Oklahoma, my immediate reaction was that
>the pattern of damage would have been technically impossible without
>supplementary demolition charges at some of the reinforced concrete bases
>inside the building, a standard demolition technique. Partin further
>explained that "reinforced concrete targets in large buildings are hard
>targets to blast. I know of no way possible to reproduce the apparent
>building damage through simply a truck bomb effort." General Partin's
>request to have the bomb site preserved in order to examine the possibility
>of a second explosion was ignored by the government. Why?
.>
>        15. General Partin's press release, quoted above, was reprinted by
>the John Birch Society magazine NEW AMERICAN. Based on this the news media
>launched an egregious and bogus smear campaign against General Benton K.
>Partin, claiming falsely that he was a member of the John Birch Society and
>therefore a "right-wing extremist". General Partin has been forced
>repeatedly to threaten lawsuits in order to force grudging and deliberately
>downplayed retractions and corrections of this allegation. His alleged JBS
>membership still appears in print and broadcast media today as fact even
>though the media are by now perfectly well aware that the allegation is
>false. Why are the news media telling a deliberate lie in order to discredit
>a highly respected expert who questions the official government version of
>Oklahoma City?
> 
>        16. There have been repeated studies done by a variety of accredited
>explosives experts and professional demolition contractors, such as former
>FBI agent Ted Gunderson. All of these have stated their professional opinion
>that the destruction of the Murrah building could only have been
>accomplished with top-grade military explosives, detonators, and careful
>placement of multiple charges. Why have the media ignored these expert
>opinions? Why, indeed, have the media engaged in a concerted campaign to
>abuse, vilify, discredit and marginalize as a "crank" or a "right-wing
>extremist" any explosives expert or engineer who questions the official FBI
>version of the bomb's construction and explosive power?
.>
>        17. There is not a single piece of concrete evidence to connect
>either Timothy McVeigh or Terry Nichols to any militia or right-wing group.
>Why has the news media refused to acknowledge this fact and continued to
>spread the patently false assertion that McVeigh was a member of a militia
>group?
.>
>        18. Terry Nichols has been married twice, once to a Mexican woman
>and once to a Filipina. Obviously, a man who marries women of color not once
>but twice and has children with them can hardly be called a racist. Why has
>this fact, which clearly precludes any racist or neo-Nazi involvement in the
>bombing of the kind which is repeatedly implied by the media, not been given
>any significant exposure at all?
.>
>        19. Having allegedly just committed a coldly calculated, carefully
>and meticulously planned mass murder, why did Timothy McVeigh then suddenly
>turn into a Clouseau-like klutz and do everything but send up a flare to
>draw attention to himself, speeding out of the state at almost 100 mph in a
>car without a license plate, virtually guaranteeing that he would be stopped?
.>
>        20. Timothy McVeigh is a highly trained combat NCO who won a Bronze
>Star for courage under fire in the Gulf. Having been stopped by a state
>trooper, being armed with a pistol, knowing that he now faced either
>execution or imprisonment for the rest of his natural life, why did McVeigh
>make no move at all to defend himself or escape, but instead surrender like
>a little lamb? 
.>
>        21. FBI agents are said to have tracked down McVeigh's truck rental
>agency by finding a vehicle identification number (VIN) on the truck's rear
>axle. This axle was found either in the bomb crater, according to the mayor
>of Oklahoma City's initial press statement, or three blocks away according
>to the later FBI version. Which statement is true?
.>
>        22. There is another problem to the Ryder truck tale. No rear axle
>on any vehicle manufactured in America is imprinted with a VIN, even after
>recent legislation forcing manufacturers to place multiple VINS on the
>engine, firewall, and frame to discourage chop shops. When queried, a
>spokesman for Ryder told reporters than it does not imprint additional VINS
>on its trucks. The only conceivable number available on a rear axle is a
>part number, but a part number couldn't lead to the identification of a
>specific vehicle. We have here another case where the FBI version of events
>simply COULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED in the way the Bureau claims it happened.
>Where did the VIN story come from? Why has it been created and circulated by
>the media?
.>
>        23. Did McVeigh use fake I.D. or his real I.D. to rent the truck?
>The FBI has told both stories.
.>
>        24. The FBI detained and interrogated Timothy McVeigh's young sister
>Jennifer and Terry Nichols' twelve year-old son. They announced in the media
>that both of them were suspects and that Jennifer McVeigh was facing
>indictment and the death penalty. These charges disappeared from the media
>and both young people were released. What is the story here?
>     
>        25. Who is John Doe Number Two? Does he exist at all? The FBI first
>conducted a nationwide manhunt for JD-2 over a period of several weeks. Then
>they claimed that a U.S. Army soldier on leave, whose published photographs
>bear no resemblance whatsoever to the photofits, was JD-2. Then they claimed
>for some months that JD-2 does not exist and all the witnesses who saw him
>were mistaken. Now they are hedging again and say they have an "open mind"
>about whether John Doe Number Two exists. What is going on here?
.>
>        26. In January of 1996 National Public Radio broadcast a half-hour
>special containing interviews with half a dozen witnesses who personally saw
>John Doe Number Two in the Ryder truck with Timothy McVeigh on the morning
>of the bombing. These witnesses all had one thing in common; other than a
>cursory preliminary interview by the FBI they had up until that time been
>approached by neither the prosecution nor the defense to appear as witnesses
>at the trial. Why not? Will any witnesses who saw John Doe Number Two be
>called to testify?
.>
>        27. In the summer of 1995 a mysterious American named Daniel
>Spiegelman was arrested in the Netherlands for trafficking in stolen
>diamonds and antiques. In July of 1995 the Janet Reno Justice Department
>quietly applied for Spiegelman's extradition to the United States IN
>CONNECTION WITH THE OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBING. This was accompanied by
>representations at the highest level demanding that the Netherlands courts
>hear the case in camera and that the proceedings be kept completely secret.
>Through his attorney Spiegelman fought extradition, a Dutch judge refused to
>impose secrecy on the hearing, the media got hold of it, and Janet Reno
>allegedly withdrew the extradition request, whereupon the entire bizarre
>episode vanished from public view. No more media blackout in the OKC case
>has been more complete than the blackout imposed over the name of Daniel
>Spiegelman; it is as if he has stepped off the face of the planet.
>        Who is Daniel Spiegelman? What connection does he have with Oklahoma
>City? Is he John Doe Number Two? Does he know who John Doe Number Two is?
.>
>        28. FBI informant and star witness Michael Fortier, who admits to
>trading his testimony for lenient sentencing on gun charges himself, claims
>that he and Timothy McVeigh scouted out the Murrah building several weeks in
>advance looking for the BATF offices therein. If that is true, why did
>Timothy NcVeigh stop the Ryder truck at a gas station on the morning of the
>bombing and ask directions to the building? And why did he park the truck on
>the side of the building the farthest away from the BATF offices, when there
>was an available parking lot which would have placed the truck bomb almost
>directly under the windows of the BATF even if it was seven stories up?
.>
>        29. Why was the reaction of the Clinton administration, blaming
>right-wing radio talk shows for the incident and demanding the most
>draconian police state legislation ever proposed in the United States, so
>swift and obviously organized? The air of orchestration about the whole
>government response did not escape notice even at the time, in all the high
>emotionalism prevalent, and was commented on by a number of observers all
>across the political spectrum. 
>        A blizzard of OKC-related "domestic terrorism" bills were rushed
>into Congress in a matter of days, some of them pre-written and already
>printed up BEFORE THE BOMBING. These proposed laws cover everything from
>banning virtually all privately owned firearms to unlimited and
>court-admissible Federal wiretaps to censorship of the Internet to the
>suspension of habeas corpus in "terrorism" cases to the grotesque
>destruction of the First Amendment advocated in Charles Schumer's bill H.R.
>2580, which imposes a five-year prison sentence for publicly engaging in
>"unseemly speculation" and publishing or transmitting by wire or electronic
>means "baseless conspiracy theories regarding the Federal government of the
>United States". Who decides what is a "baseless conspiracy theory'? Why, the
>very same government, of course.
>        How exactly was a normally cumbersome, inefficient, and glacially
>slow legislative branch able to move so quickly, so comprehensively, and so
>efficiently in introducing these laws which will strip Americans of what
>remaining freedoms they have?
.>
>        30. Why is it taking so unconscionably long for the trial of Timothy
>McVeigh and Terry Nichols to begin?        
.>
>                                        #
.>
.>
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Subject: Racial Leadership Standards

To All Aryan Racial Nationalists:
.>
>        The National Socialist White People's Party considers the following
canons of personal and ethical behavior to be the minimum acceptable
standards for any man or woman claiming any kind of leadership within the
racial struggle.
.>
>        1. The personal lifestyle of the quondam leader must REFLECT THE
VALUES of the cause which he or she claims to serve and advocate.
.>
>        2. Theft, embezzlement, and/or conversion of monies donated by
supporters to advance the cause of the Aryan cause to the personal use of
the leader is unacceptable.
.>
>        3. The use of monies donated by supporters to advance the Aryan
cause in order to purchase, develop, and maintain large rural compounds or
ranches or farms which are ostensibly "National Headquarters" but are in
actual fact the personal, residential retirement estate of the leader is
unacceptable.
.>
>        4. The abuse of women on the part of the leader, either phsyically
through beating and assault or sexual exploitation. is unacceptable.
.>
>        5. Homosexuality on the part of the leader of any alleged racial
nationalist organization, or on the part of any member or associate of any
racial nationalist organization, is absolutely, unequivocally and
non-negotiably unacceptable. Homosexuality is morally wrong, and completely
incompatible with any participation whatsoever in the racial struggle.
.>
>        6. The transmission of correspondence, including names and
addresses, and any portion of funds donated by supporters to advance the
racial struggle, to Morris Seligman Dees or any other enemy of the Aryan
race, is completely unacceptable. The existence of any court order
compelling such transmission of funds and information to the racial enemy is
irrelevant and under no circumstances acceptable as an excuse for such
behavior. The transmission of any information involving other racial
nationalists to the enemy, either in the manner described above or through
public broadcast on a recorded message, is absolutely incompatible with the
most basic standards of decency and Aryan honor, and anyone who engages in
such activity is permanently precluded from any participation in the racial
struggle. The word for such people is INFORMER.
.>
>        7. Alcoholism in a leader, including drunkenness in public and
drunkenness while speaking on a recorded telephone message, is unacceptable. 
.>
>        Anyone who is unable to maintain the standards delineated above in
their personal and political life does not belong in the ranks of the Aryan
racial struggle and should either resign or face concerted efforts at
removal through the only weapon currently available to legitimate racial
activists in dealing with such people, i.e. constant public exposure.
.>
>        The NSWPP regrets to note that these standards of ethics and
behavior for those claiming leadership in the racial struggle, which we
consider minimal, are apparently too stringent for the taste of certain
otherwise intelligent and potentially valuable leadership figures within the
Movement.
.>
>        The NSWPP regrets to note that we have within the Movement certain
otherwise intelligent and potentially valuable people who publicly defend
some or all of the behaviors described above. The NSWPP further notes that
these people are without exception completely unable to refute the FACTS
which have been publicized by the Party in certain specific cases, and
therefore respond with vicious and unprincipled personal attacks against
those who dare to point out that the Emperor has no clothes.
.>
>        The National Socialist White People's Party will continue its
present vigorous and unrelenting campaign to enforce basic standards of
ethics, personal integrity and behavior, and basic honesty throughout the
entire spectrum of the Aryan racialist movement. It is profoundly
appropriate that the National Socialism of Adolf Hitler and George Lincoln
Rockwell, being the most advanced element of the Aryan struggle, be
entrusted with the collective conscience of our Movement and our Folk. The
struggle with the Enemy Within, the enemy in our bathroom mirror every
morning who is far more deadly to us than any Jew or Communist or BATF gun
thug, will continue without letup.
.>
>        Let those who are unable to meet the standards laid out above, and
those who would defend those who violate such standards, take note.
.>
>For Victory,
>WINSTON SMITH
>General Secretary
>NSWPP         
.>

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Subject: "The Arrangement"

>To All Aryan Racial Nationalists:
.>
>        To bring those of you who may not be aware of the facts up to
speed, Tom and John Metzger of the White Aryan Resistance (W.A.R.) group
have been conclusively exposed in the national news media as long-term
informers and assets of the Southern Poverty Law Center run by the loathsome
Morris Seligman Dees.
.>
>        In February of 1994 the Montgomery ADVERTISER printed a series of
expose articles on the Southern Poverty Law Center and the shady activities
of Morris Seligman Dees in general. One section of these articles referred
to the 1990 lawsuit brought against Tom Metzger and WAR in Portland, Oregon
by Dees, using an Ethiopian kaffir as a shill. Metzger lost the lawsuit and
was hit with a $12.5 million dollar civil judgment. 
.>
>        As part of that judgment, the court ordered all mail coming into
Metzger's WAR post office box in Fallbrook, California to be seized and
turned over to a series of court-appointed receivers, of whom the latest is
San Diego attorney James McElroy. Under the terms of what is known as a
"consent decree", which was finalized when Metzger lost his appeal to the
Supreme Court in May of 1994, McElroy collects and opens all mail addressed
to Metzger or WAR. He then extracts all monies sent to WAR either as
donations or as product purchases, deposits 50% of the money into a special
trust fund for the Ethiopian nigger, and the remaining 50% is given to
Metzger in order to allow him to keep operating and let him pay off the
judgment (with White racialist money).
.>
>        The existence of this arrangement was confirmed in a letter to
Winston Smith by Fallbrook postmaster Robert Higgins dated April 30th, 1994.
.>
>        James McElroy also forwards copies of all correspondence (including
names and addresses of anyone who writes to Metzger) to the Southern Poverty
Law Center in Montgomery. In at least one case, the murder trial of Skinhead
Mark Lane in Birmingham, correspondence seized from Metzger's WAR post
office box was used by the prosecution to send a young White man to prison
for life.
.>
>        The above "arrangement" has been given nationwide publicity through
not only the Montgomery ADVERTISER expose series, which has been widely
reprinted, but through major articles in Metzger's hometown paper, the San
Diego UNION-TRIBUNE; a number of wire service articles which have been
carried across country in the past two years; it has been the partial
subject of an Arts and Entertainment Network cable TV special on "hate
groups"; and finally of course has been extensively boasted of by Morris
Dees himself and his agent, attorney James McElroy. In February of 1995
extensive media publicity was given to McElroy's safari into the mountains
of Ethiopia to turn over to some teenaged nigger the sum of $100,000 seized
>from  the sale of Metzger's home and also from proceeds collected from his
mail. The SPLC has also brought the monkoid to America and taken him on the
left-liberal rubber chicken circuit as a highly publicized fund-raising gimmick.
.>
>        It must be understood, very clearly, that there is NO DOUBT
WHATSOEVER that the seizure of the mail from his post office box is taking
place. NONE. Nationwide media publicity aside, the exact sequence of
official court-appointed receivers and all details were unearthed by Rick
Cooper of the National Vanguard and published in an article of his in June
of 1995. Cooper lives near Portland and was able to research the original
court documents, and he went so far as to make a trip to California on his
vacation in order to examine the legal documents involved in the collection
of the $12.5 million judgment. These included legal seizure orders on the
box dated from April of 1991, orders which Metzger denies ever occurred.
Cooper has conclusively proven that Tom Metzger has systematically and
deliberately lied to his own supporters over a period of five years in order
to continue living off the Movement without working. 
.>
>        The Movement as a whole owes Cooper a debt of thanks for his
sterling and energetic efforts to uncover the truth and for his willingness
to publish his findings which prove Metzger's guilt, despite his own freely
admitted bias in Metzger's favor. 
.>
>        The latest development is that Metzger apparently no longer bothers
to maintain the pretense of innocence. Tom Metzger has begun admitting to
his closest supporters or people who force him to discuss the subject or
otherwise pin him down (in one case, someone who demanded to accompany
Metzger to the Fallbrook post office and observe while he opened the box
with his own key and removed the mail with his own hands, which Metzger was
unable to do) that the NSWPP and the media reports are correct and that
McElroy is in fact collecting and opening WAR mail and extracting money. 
.>
>        Metzger claims (correctly) that this is done under court order,
that the same court order denies him permission to use any other address for
WAR, and that he will go to prison for contempt if he attempts to evade the
civil consent decree. (All this has been confirmed by Rick Cooper's
ground-breaking research.) The NSWPP views these excuses as unacceptable;
turning over information and money to Morris Dees is turning over
information and money to Morris Dees. 
.>
>        Metzger also denies that McElroy is sending names and addresses and
copies of letters to Dees and that he is merely taking money. In view of
what we know of the behavior of Morris Dees, and in view of Metzger's
consistent history of lying and evasion, the NSWPP does not find this
contention to be credible. 
.>
>        In addition, since the exposure of "The Arrangement", Metzger has
engaged in a number of other activities which cast severe doubt upon his
integrity, his honesty, his intelligence and his mental and emotional
balance. This e-mail is already very lengthy; suffice it to say that the
contents and delivery of Metzger's recorded phone messages have been such as
to indicate a substance abuse problem and/or a schizophrenic and decaying
personality; and that there are several specific incidents of criminal and
deranged behavior on his part which are extremely suspicious in that they
have gone unpunished by the authorities. It has become almost impossible to
avoid the suspicion that Tom and John Metzger are being allowed to continue
to operate because in doing so they are serving some ulterior purpose on the
part of the System.
.>
>        Finally, possibly the most sinister development of all is the
growth within the Aryan racial nationalist Movement of what has been called
"The Cult of St. Thomas the Martyr". This irrational and somewhat hysterical
cult, ignoring the massive accumulation of evidence and facts to the
contrary, maintains that Tom Metzger is some kind of persecuted martyr who
is being victimized by National Socialists and conservatives and media
acting in weird concert because he is allegedly a "brilliant Aryan leader"
(a contention which in itself is highly open to dispute; when his patchy
career and often rather confused writings and rambling videos are examined
carefully, a good case can be made that Metzger frankly was never all that
effective.)
.>
>        The cult consists of a number of Skinhead-type kids who seem to be
emotionally disturbed, of limited intelligence, from broken homes and
seeking a father figure. (The smarter Skins got Metzger's number long ago
and have kissed him off). There are also a clique of personal enemies of
Winston Smith, Willis Carto and Doctor Edward R. Fields of THE TRUTH AT LAST
who find a pretended belief in Metzger's "innocence" to be a convenient
method of pursuing their personal vendettas against Smith, Carto and Fields.
It needs to be emphasized that no one familiar with the facts genuinely
believes Metzger to be innocent; the evidence is simply too strong and there
is just too much of it. However, the recent tendency towards using a
pretended belief in Metzger's innocence in order to attack the re-emergence
of National Socialism in North America is a very sinister development. We
have had far too much irrationality in our Movement for far too long. We
don't need more of it.
.>
>        Winston Smith, Dr. Edward R. Fields, Dr. William L. Pierce, Pastor
Richard Butler, Pastor Pete Peters, Thom Robb, James Mason, and John
Trochmann have all been the recipients of various threats of death and
mutilation from the Cult of St. Thomas the Martyr because they have
questioned Metzger's version of events. These threats are of a very immature
type and to be completely accurate are mostly probably leveled by youngsters
without Metzger's approval or knowledge; nor are they really to be taken
seriously given the immaturity and general silliness of the kids making the
threats. However, it is significant that Metzger attracts and encourages
this kind of person. It's the thought that counts.        
.>
>        Further information on the Metzger situation can be obtained from
the National Socialist White People's Party, P.O. Box 9444, Chapel Hill,
N.C. 27515-9444 U.S.A. Please enclosed a stamped, self-addressed envelope
with 78 cents in postage.
.>
.>
>                                            #
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>A RECKONING
by John Milton Kleim
.>
.>
>I am certain to be denounced as a "race-traitor" by many of my so-called
>"friends" for these statements.  That's OK; they have a right to their
>opinion, as I and my Winchester have a right to mine.
.>
>It requires more strength to admit defeat, than to fantasize about victory.
.>
>The skinhead culture, as a social unit, is a hideous blot upon the honor
>of the Aryan Race.  While there are isolated individuals of high
>character, rational mind, and personal accomplishment who identify as
>skins, the paradigm (if it can be called that) of the skinhead scene
>represents nothing noble.  Unrestrained inebriation, senseless violence
>with no strategic direction, and infantile "us/them" infighting are the
>endemic traits of the skinhead "movement."
.>
>It is alleged the skinhead culture is a neo-Viking warrior culture,
>prepared and ready for action to achieve the 14 Words.  Yeah, right!
>What has the skinhead culture done to advance Aryan survival?  By bashing
>countless heads of _personal_, not racial, enemies in?  By burning down
>Black churches?  By spray painting Swastikas?  By drunken brawls amongst
>each other?  In their juvenile stupidity, most "brave" skins risk felony
>charges with no demonstrable, favorable results for our People's salvation.
>These persons are not heroes; they are contemptible fools.
.>
>The false image of the skinhead scene is a working-class youth culture of
>proud White folk celebrating their heritage, generated as a rebellion
>against the evils of the present order.  However, I, a 25-year old son of
>a working class family who grew up in the Sacramento area and shared the
>same type disharmonic social environment most skins did, need neither beer
>nor violence nor cultic organizations to almost singlehandedly achieve
>goals on a massive scale, such as I did with the publicity campaign for
>_rec.music.white-power_.  Why am I so different?  Perhaps being from a
>long line of German _bauern_ instilled me with the traditions of _true_
>Aryan culture, not an artificial, cosmopolitan pseudo-Aryan culture.  I am a
>lonely standard-bearer of what Third Reich-era Germans called _Kultur_, as
>opposed to the _Zivilisation_ of the concrete deserts from which the
>skinhead anti-culture arose.  The latter is a hodge-podge of unholistic
>social elements fused together of necessity following the collapse of the
>social structure of the West.
.>
>The Holy Swastika symbolizes the Program of God in the Universe, representa-
>tive of both refined strength and intricate beauty.  How few skins understand
>its significance and sacredness.  It has been made into a profane
>scrawling by those neither comprehending its meaning nor deserving of
>wearing it.  The Aryan who is truly strong has the ability to be gentle
>and compassionate.  The brutal existence of the skinhead culture is
>incompatible with the genuine symbolism of the Swastika.  Most skins
>attempt to emulate the malevolent spawn of Hollywood cinema, _not_ the
>ideals of the SS, whose heroic men embraced balanced responsibility:
>evolved "higher men" of duty, restraint, commitment, and prudence.
.>
>The youth of a People is its tomorrow.  If the skinheads are our tomorrow,
>then our Race has no future.
.>
>I've wasted enough of my life on a lost cause.  Our Race died on May 8th,
>1945, when the last Nation of _Kultur_ surrendered to anti-culture.  The
>pathetic state of our youth today illustrates so well our lasting defeat.  
.>
>I shall now be loyal to myself.  All I wish is one good woman, a family,
>and to be left alone.
.>
>-- Milton John Kleim, Jr.
.>
.>
>An exchange between George Burdi and myself concerning "A Reckoning":
.>
>>I have a lot to say about your comments.  I have been there and looked
>>down the same dark, morbid tunnel.  I actually tried to call you when
>>I first read your statement, to try to talk you out of it.  But each of us
>>must make our own decisions, and if you lack the resolve now, you will
>>most certainly not last when real hardship sets in.
.>
>And what will the skinheads do when the "real hardship" sets in, and the
>beer supply evaporates?
.>
>I have thrown almost all of my resources into this struggle.  30+ hours a
>week since October 1993.  ALL of my spare finances.  I have flushed a
>comfy career opportunity down the shitter.  And you tell me about
>"hardship"?  If we were making gains, then all of my struggle would be
>worth it.  If we could field another Hitler for President, I would fight
>like I've never fought before to elect him.  But that's not going to
>happen, not tomorrow, not next year, not in our lifetimes.  WHAT has
>FIFTY YEARS of struggle, often by greater men than ourselves (Rockwell,
>Mathews, etc.), achieved? 
.>
>>In the name of being a REAL National Socialist, you are abandoning
>>the very principles that you hold dear.  Your life and my life mean
>>nothing ... all that is important is the Folk.  
.>
>What "folk"?  A few tens of thousands of drunken skinheads?  A few dozen
>old profiteers fantasizing about "victory"?  George, WE are not the Aryan
>Race.  We have no revolutionary following.  We have a "following" of losers
>who bitch about ZOG destroying their lives just as Negroes bitch about
>"White Racism" destroying theirs.  They beat each other up, and attack
>fellow Aryans because they're of the "wrong" crew.  You know this to be
>true. 
.>
>>If we live morbid,
>>miserable lives because we were born into the dark ages, then
>>that is just our tough luck.  We are the torch-bearers of a rich
>>genetic heritage that calls us to a duty beyond our own
>>all-too-human existences.
.>
>I'm certainly not pretending that I am escaping the coming apocalypse. 
>When it comes, I will face it as surely as you.  But what the fuck, why
>should I provide entertainment to a few hundred hobbyists who don't
>believe for a second we can win?  IF we have any chance at all, the only
>duty to our genetic heritage I have is being wasted on meaningless
>propaganda.  I should be using my time to raise a family.
.>
>>You and I can wax poetic all we want.  But the bottom line is
>>that you are puking out of a movement that needs men like
>>you.  Instead of having faith in the unseen, unknown progress
>>you are making, you are acting selfishly like a good goy.
.>
>"Acting selfishly"?  You make me laugh.  When the skinheads sober up and
>start spreading the word with the same revolutionary fanaticism I have 
>over two years, well, then I can be criticized.
.>
>Men greater than us surrendered when they knew the battle was over. 
>Admiral/Fuhrer Doenitz and General Field Marshal Keitel surrendered when
>they knew there was no point to continuing.  We should have the courage to
>know that we have no chance of achieving greater goals than the 3R sought,
>with far less resources.  The skinheads are not the Waffen-SS, and NEVER
>will be.
.>
>>Just remember, every time you see a beautiful White girl
>>walking arm-in-arm with a buck black nigger;  every time
>>you watch a Jew on the television whine about the holocaust
>>and lie about Adolf Hitler;  every time another small and
>>unreplacable part of our collective Racial consciousness
>>dies ... you are an accomplice.
.>
>Oh, yes, the "race-traitor" shit.  How about William Pierce, who I helped
>to enrich himself for over a year?  The same William Pierce who sells the
>"movement's" bible to the Jews?  Will you cease printing National Alliance
>propaganda in future issues of Resistance as a protest over his selling
>the COPYRIGHT to the Turner Diaries to the Jew Lyle Stuart?
.>
>Everytime I see a Black with a traitorous blond bitch, I shall remember
>that Nature is exacting her righteous judgment on a Race too weak and
>feeble to defend itself.  A Race whose men cannot rise above inebriation
>and self-gratification, and simply will not follow an example that is not
>"comfortable."
.>
>>The herd have an excuse - they don't know any different.
>>You do.  You know far too much to make such a selfish
>>choice.  You mock the *real* sacrifices made by *real*
>>men and women who suffer a thousand deaths behind
>>ZOG's wires, while you live your comfortable life and
>>pretend to be a White man.
.>
>Oh, yes, George.  "Real" men.  Aryans have always had the courage to face
>reality, and I've been lying to myself for long enough. 
.>
>>The problem today with our society is that no one takes
>>their oaths seriously any longer.  
.>
>I have never taken an oath to a man, an organization, or any other
>artificial body.  My "oath" is to God, and that which is dead, my
>heritage.  Oaths are no longer valid when one party is deceased. And the
>Aryan Race has proven itself no longer a viable entity. 
.>
>>Marriages break-up fast because *quitting* is an option.  Children 
>>are neglected because saying "I don't give a shit"
>>is just a reach for the TV remote away.  
.>
>My wish is for one good woman, a family, and to be left alone. I will
>never betray my wife, my children, or my extended family. 
.>
>I've seen the face of the skinhead "culture." All the failings you rail
>about are endemic to the skinheads.  You tell THEM in the next
>_Resistance_ about this, and then you'll have right to say this to me. 
>You start upholding the REAL values of the Aryan Race in _Resistance_, and
>your enterprise will go down the shitter tomorrow.  You know the whole
>White Power "movement" is an entertainment industry, and if you stop
>providing what the skins and other White Power fans want (i.e. start
>telling them what they ought to hear, not what they want to hear), no one
>will read your 'zine. 
.>
>>Our entire
>>planet is dying because people can get-away with
>>being slobs and bums and losers and *quitters*,
>>and can roll their eyes back and say "I don't
>>give a shit".  Well, some of us do.  Some of
>>us march onward irrespective of the odds,
>>and take our oaths seriously.
.>
>As I said, I have never taken an oath to anyone or anything but God and my
>family's heritage.  God's judgment on His Creation is nearly upon us,
>because WE, not the Jews, not the Negroes, are destroying ourselves, and
>are too WEAK to survive.  There are too few idealists among us.  There are
>too many who have delusions of grandeur and success in meaningless
>accomplishments.  I know all about this; I had these delusions until my
>breakup with Sylvia FORCED me to see reality. 
.>
>>I hold you in profound contempt.
.>
>HA HA HA HA HA HA
.>
>You have a right to your opinion.
.>
>I now journey West to find myself a Woman of Virtue and a quiet life to
>enjoy those things which really mean something. 
.>
>>14 Words Forever,
.>
>And they are certain to be achieved by alcoholism, senseless violence,
>brawling, and selling CDs. 
.>
>-- Milton
.>
>PS: What was that quote from Jack London in the latest _Resistance_? 
>    Something about man's purpose not being to merely exist, but to live?  I
>    guess he's a contemptible "race-traitor" too.
.>
.>
.>
>Misperceptions and Clarifications about "A Reckoning"
.>
.>
>Considering the responses I've received to my statement, there seems to 
>be considerable misunderstanding as to my purpose and intentions in 
>making the statement.
.>
>I am NOT taking a vacation.  I am NOT merely distancing myself from the 
>skinheads.  I am leaving the so-called "movement."  PERMANENTLY.
.>
>The "movement" is an entertainment industry, not a cause.  There are a 
>few -- tragically few -- idealists among those who identify with the 
>"movement," and who sincerely believe in the ideals purportedly being 
>advanced.  However, the vast majority of the ranks of the "movement" 
>derive solely entertainment value from the reams of propaganda and the 
>hours of hate rock spewed forth regularly.
.>
>The "movement" provides amusement to those who cannot find amusement and 
>diversion elsewhere.  Within the "movement" young and old alike can live 
>out delusive fantasies of glory and triumph in the comfort of their 
>homes.  It is a "movement" of _reaction_, not a movement of revolution.
.>
>The "movement" is an industry built upon the backs of working people with 
>bright but unrealistic hopes, mostly young people.  Perversely, it is 
>also built upon the tragedy of dead people like hate rocker Joe Rowan.
.>
>William Pierce, whom I helped to enrich himself for over a year, has 
>sold the rights for the "movement's" bible, _the Turner Diaries_, to a 
>Jew.  The reason is obvious, and I will let the dull reader speculate.  
>Like many present and former National Alliance members, I pretended it 
>was alright, a prudent decision, a necessary compromise of ideals.  But, 
>deep down, it was a fatal blow to my morale.
.>
>Pierce, whose actions I must view as "selling out," will continue to be 
>regarded as a "hero" in the "movement," while those of us who speak the 
>truth will be seen as "disruptors," or "race-traitors."
.>
>The "movement" is a fertile ground for hyperactive egos to take root and 
>blossom.  Certainly my ego blossomed fully during my "movement" career.  
>Great minds burdened with sloth and limited discipline find a home in the 
>"movement."  Reputation and fame are easily obtained by saying outrageous 
>things and engaging in provocative acts, far more easily than were the 
>same minds to endeavor in more "normal" enterprises.  This is a self-in-
>dictment, yes, but it's the truth.
.>
>One of the most ironic situations within the so-called "movement" is the 
>disparity between the Ideal and the reality.  One may peruse the pages of 
>a White Nationalist publication, _Resistance_ for example, and compare 
>what is held up as perfectual, and what actually exists within the ranks 
>of the "movement."  The "movement's" ideal aesthetics reflect little or 
>nothing in common with most of their admirers.  Certainly I am not 
>showing a blond Teutonic chauvinism here, as I've met many very 
>attractive brown-eyed brunette ladies, but the utter ridiculousness of 
>having images of slender, blond Nordic girls and brawny, fair sons of 
>Vikings plastered everywhere throughout the "movement" exemplifies the 
>delusionary mentality of most "movement" adherents, since hardly 10% of 
>those within the "movement" approach those Nordic ideals.  In fact, many 
>White Nationalists could very well be subjects of the Waffen-SS's screed, 
>_Der Untermensch_.  The absurdity, even hypocrisy, of the "movement's" 
>Nordicism is encapsulated in the latest _Resistance's_ article on Jack 
>London, a Nordic who gloried about the "perishing and lordly race of 
>blonds" and ridiculed the "ruck and spawn of dark-pigmented breeds."  
>Perhaps the crude, brutal zeal of so many within the "movement" reveals 
>an inferiority complex, fanaticism being a "compensator" for their 
>perceived "deficiency."
.>
>Also ridiculous is the vast amount of kitsch, and artifacts stripped of
>context seen within the "movement."  The almost universal obsession with
>material culture from the Viking Age and from the Third Reich highlights
>the inability of of the "movement" to generate new cultural
>manifestations.  Certainly, I enjoy cultural material from the zenith of
>White cultural evolution, but it is quite distasteful to view and hear
>cheap imitation.  Almost every piece of visual art is copied from National
>Socialist Germany, or is a syncretic manipulation of Celtic or Gothic
>culture with little or no regard for the context which our ancestors
>respected.  This fact alone, the almost complete inability to create truly
>new cultural material, demonstrates that we are defeated, and the
>"movement" is living in the past, attempting to hang onto an era that is
>gone forever.  It also shows how diminutive my generation really is
>compared to our predecessors whom we can never emulate authentically. 
.>
>The callous attitude of the "movement" towards unfavored persons extends 
>not only to non-Whites, but also to those of our own Race.  This 
>callousness is clearly illustrated in a recent _Resistance_ feature.  
>George Burdi's laughable self-aggrandizement, "logic dictates that such a 
>discussion [of "esoteric racialism"] will only attract individuals with 
>the intelligence to understand and dutifully apply its teachings" is only 
>a prelude to the shocking statement soon to follow.  Burdi writes, "So, 
>with Planet Earth as the ship, we have to drop some people overboard, or 
>we all die.  How do we decide who lives and who dies?  Do we throw over 
>the retarded, the malformed, the crippled, and the maladjusted, or do we 
>round up the brightest, strongest, healthiest, most beautiful men and 
>women and have them take the plunge?  If we really had to decide (and we 
>do) who lives or who dies, who do we keep?  Who do we kill?"
.>
>Just WHO is "malformed" and "most beautiful"?  Perhaps if I were doing 
>the choosing, I'd decide that all who didn't fit my ideal should be 
>eliminated.  Since "obviously" blue eyes and blond hair are "most 
>beautiful," Mr. Burdi would be the first to go.  Of course, I am being 
>grotesquely facetious here.
.>
>"Maladjusted" he says.  What are skinheads but social misfits rebelling 
>against a society that is extremely uncomfortable?  I've never heard of a 
>successful businessman who advocates eradicating his best customers.  
>Nay, we are not talking merely about callousness, but hypocrisy.
.>
>My decision is not a hasty one.  I have held onto the illusion that I 
>was accomplishing something despite the facts which glowed brightly 
>before my eyes for sometime.  Recent personal sorrow of a life-changing 
>magnitude forced me to accept the facts I lied to myself to ignore.  I 
>thank God that in emotional tragedy I have been given great wisdom and 
>long-needed humility.  I ask God that I now be allowed to "serve my Race" 
>in the ONLY way that matters in our era, a way so few of my critics have 
>the character to engage in: raise a happy, healthy family.
.>
>I will offer as further explanation of my position a recent exchange
>between George Burdi and myself.  Mr. Burdi chose to make his response
>public via the Resistance Records Electronic Newsletter, complete with my
>city of last residence.  I now make my response public as well.  It
>follows this message. 
.>
>-- Milton John Kleim, Jr.
>   Roseville, Minnesota
.>
.>
>--
.>
>"The proper function of man is to live, not exist."
.>
>                                        -- Jack London
.>
.>

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>THE GENERAL SECRETARY'S REPLY TO KLEIM'S "A RECKONING"
.>

>Dear Brother:
>>
>>        You will hardly be surprised when I tell you that this is not the
>>first time I have had to deal with sentiments of the kind you expressed in
>>your recent article "The Reckoning" and its attachments. I regret to say
>>that disillusionment such as yours is all too common within the Movement.
>>Would it surprise you to learn that I, too, have observed exactly the same
>>things that you have, that I have felt exactly the same disgust and
revulsion? 
>>
>>        I, too, have long had very serious reservations about Skinheads and
>>the Skinhead scene, although I should add that I find EX-Skinheads who
>>survive their Skin period and have learned something from it to be the most
>>valuable of all recruits. 
>>
>>        I, too have observed the terrible effects that alcohol has on the
>>Movement (hence the banning of alcohol in the NSWPP manual in any Party or
>>racial context, violation of which is an expulsion offense). 
>>
>>        I was aware of the "anti-racist" forward and the $1.00 to Handgun
>>Control arrangement regarding the Establishment publication of THE TURNER
>>DIARIES and it bothered me a lot. I was unaware that Dr. Pierce had actually
>>sold the COPYRIGHT ITSELF to the book; if that's true then I am shocked,
>>stunned, and horrified. 
>>
>>        You think YOU've got it bad, friend? I've been seeing these things
>>for 24 years now. With all due respect, your own experience seems to have
>>been rather mild, not to you, I know, but by comparison. I've seen murder,
>>perversion, betrayal, greed and madness in this so-called "Movement" that
>>would curl your hair.  
>>
>>        I call it "The Great Paradox". THE CAUSE IS SO RIGHT; THE PEOPLE IN
>>IT ARE SO WRONG. There is no more noble, more sacred, more awe-inspiring and
>>glorious cause any man or woman can devote their life to than ensuring the
>>survival of our race, the proudest and most shining of God's creation. And
>>there is no more stunning and horrifying revelation on earth than the
>>realization of the type of person who has been and continues to be attracted
>>to that cause, who sink their fangs into it and hang on like grim death, the
>>bad driving out the good, disgracing us, robbing us blind, feeding their own
>>egos on our people's hopes and dreams and suffering, making public
>humiliating spectacles of us,or what is worse, making us look ridiculous and
>weak and causing our own people to scorn and laugh at us.
>>
>>        THE CAUSE IS SO RIGHT; THE PEOPLE ARE SO WRONG. It is what every one
>>of us learns very quickly when we come through the door. We expect to find
>>Triumph of the Will and instead we find ourselves on the set of a Three
>>Stooges farce.
>>
>>        It has broken the hearts of more good men and women than I care to
>>recall in these 24 years. It has broken my own heart, time and again, burned
>>to ashes every bit of idealism and hope and enthusiasm and faith I ever had.
>>It still does, regularly.
>>
>>       I'm not exaggerating and I'm not being patronizing. About once a week
>>on average I get so sickened and disgusted by the behavior of those who
>>claim to serve our cause that I entertain my own fantasies about chucking it
>>all, running away to find that "one good woman" (surely there must be SOME
>>left, somewhere?) and never having any contact with any of this again. Like
>>you, I want to lash our and scream to all these suppurating pustules, "LEAVE
>>ME ALONE!!!"
>>
>>        I even did it once, long ago. I packed my bags and ran away, left
>>the whole country for what I thought was the Great White Paradise of
>>Rhodesia. In a way I'm very glad I got to see Rhodesia and South Africa
>>before they died, but the running away part didn't work out worth a damn.
>>Just as it won't work out with you, either.
>>
>>        Because you see, my brother, it's too late for you. You KNOW THE
>>TRUTH. You've unplugged yourself from the consumer society and the
>>television and you can never be plugged in again. Not totally, not 100% at
>>any rate. You will never ever be able to look at a news broadcast, read a
>>newspaper or a magazine, overhear a conversation on whatever shit job
>>affirmative action allows you to work, never be able to observe this putrid
>>society in action without filtering what you see and hear and read through
>>the lens of truth. Truth is part of your mind now and you can't unlearn it,
>>anymore than you can stop breathing or stop your own heartbeat. Pandora's
>>box has been opened and you can never, ever return those genies of knowledge
>>and skepticism and truth and lock them up again.
>>
>>        That's the first thing I want to say to you, that someday you'll be
>>back. Fine, I know you don't believe that and you needn't reply with
>>passionate denials. That's okay. I didn't believe it either when my own
>>"dark night of the soul" came. Just remember what I say here.
>>
>>        The second thing I want to say to you is that YOU ARE NOT ALONE. You
>>aren't by any means the only person ever to observe and be revolted by the
>>situation within what passes for the Aryan racial resistance movement. As to
>>why that situation exists, what caused it, what perpetuates it---hoo, boy,
>>there is a subject about which volumes could be written. And should be, and
>>will be someday.
>>
>>        The third thing I want to say to you is something which, yet again,
>>I understand perfectly well that you will not believe, and which I do not
>>expect you to believe---yet. That is that the National Socialist White
>>People's Party is DIFFERENT. It is different because Adolf Hitler was
>>different. It is different because George Lincoln Rockwell was different.
>>Finally, it is different because I am different. Not all White racial
>>nationalist leaders or prominent personalities are corrupt. I am not
>>corrupt, and there are others who are not corrupt. Whether you believe this
>>or not for the moment is immaterial; it is the truth.
>>
>>        We're having a hell of a hard time reviving Commander Rockwell's
>>dream, very largely because of that Great Paradox, because so many in the
>>so-called "Movement" have such a vested interest in seeing National
>>Socialism fail, and because so many like you are so unwilling to trust and
>>to believe and to fight again. But we will not fail. That, my friend, you
>>can take to the bank.
>>
>>        So, what reason can I offer you not to quit? Why should you stay in
>>the fight, at least in some capacity or other? The same reason I always
>>offer. There are others, but to me this is the best:
>>
>>        BECAUSE IT IS RIGHT.
>>
>>        Because being an Aryan means more than a genetic heritage; it
>>carries a spiritual burden as well. Because we alone of all the peoples and
>>cultures of the earth are capable of arriving at moral judgments, of
>>understanding that man can have a higher duty than to himself. We do what we
>>do BECAUSE IT IS RIGHT.
>>
>        No other reason---and I've noticed that if someone does get
involved for
>>some other reason, something selfish or petty or half-baked, then they'll
>>run into trouble. I think that may be part of the secret of the Great
>>Paradox, but I'll resist the temptation to go into a digression which will
>>run this e-mail to the length of WAR AND PEACE.
>>
>>        Of course, it certainly helps if you're long-run optimistic, as I
>>am. I genuinely do believe we'll win in the end, and if you're ever
>>interested I'll tell you why that is. But even if I didn't believe in
>>ultimate victory, I would still keep on fighting. Because I will not
>>dishonor my ancestors and myself with the stain of surrender.
>>
>>        Please understand that unlike George Burdi I am not passing judgment
>>on you. I am hardly in a position to do so, since I have admitted to having
>>the same feelings and on at least one occasion, giving in to them.
>>
>>        But the Spaniards have a saying: "He was a brave man THAT day." Your
>>wounds will heal and someday you will take up the sword again, at least
>>metaphorically. Trust me on this; I have seen the good as well as the bad
>>during this past quarter century, and I know. When that day comes, you know
>>where to find me.
>>
>>
>>For Victory,
>>WINSTON SMITH
>>General Secretary
>>N.S.W.P.P. 
>>        
>>
>>
>>
.>
.>
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Hi, Winston:

      I shipped you a third one.  It's just you that makes my Eudora balk.  I
wonder why?
       By the way, have you ever published anything in your own name?  You
write like an angel, but people really seem to be afraid of you.  I have done
some scouting, and people are wary.  What's up?

(Name withheld)


Dear Racial Comrade:
.>
>        Hoo, boy! That's going to take some explaining. I've already sent
>you a lot of my more controversial material, so you have a good idea of its
>general nature. First I'll give you something a friend of mine once said,
>then what an enemy (I regret to say) once said, and then I'll tell you the
>way I see it.
.>
>        My Movement "mentor", insofar as I have one, was Major William
>Gaedtke, the last head of the REAL (Lindbergh) America First Committee, back
>in the 1970s. I was starting to get a fairly heavy deluge of slander and
>sludge even back then, and one day I complained to him about it. I have
>never forgotten what he told me. I know that this is going to sound vain and
>conceited, like I'm patting myself on the back, Ingrid, but this is what he
>said, as nearly a direct quote as I can render from memory:
.>
>        "They don't trust you because you're too good to be true. This
>Movement is so used to mediocrity that when someone with genuine ability
>appears among us no one knows what to make of him. They can't understand
>why, with all your talent and ability, you're not out there making tons of
>money and wallowing in the fleshpots. That's what they'd be doing themselves
>if they'd been born with your advantages and if they had your talent. They
>assume that anyone with everything you've got on the ball who'd waste
>himself in this damned dead end Movement must either be crazy or be a
>Federal agent of some kind. The idea that you might actually believe in the
>cause and want to devote yourself to your race is incomprehensible to them.
>They're in it because they've been losers all their life, failures at
>everything they've tried, and they can't live without working any other way.
>They resent you; you are what they wish they were. You're an eagle who has
>chosen to nest among carrion crows, and they're going to throw themselves on
>you and try to peck you to death. Get used to it, kid. You're going to have
>to deal with this for the rest of your life." 
.>
>        And Bill Gaedtke was right. I have had to deal with it ever since
>then, and I now accept that I always will. For reasons I have often wondered
>about but have never figured out, God has decided that we can't just do our
>duty like ordinary soldiers, Ingrid. Every one of us who serves the cause of
>our people is presented with a terrible personal bill which we must pay for
>the privilege. The hatred and the sullen suspicion you have encountered are
>part of my tab.
.>
>        That's what a friend told me. We now come to what an enemy once told
>me, a man I deeply and profoundly respect and admire who has become my enemy
>because I have committed the ultimate Movement sin against him. I have
>offended his ego. I have proven him WRONG, and for him as for so many among
>us that is something that can never be forgiven.
.>
>        In the autumn of 1991 I wrote to Dr. William L. Pierce and asked him
>to tell me frankly why I was the only one in the Movement who was fighting
>against the Jewish sodomite cult leader Benny Klassen, why I was unable to
>get any help or support at all from the older established Movement leaders
>and organizations. Dr. Pierce responded with the last civil communication he
>ever addressed to me. Within two years he would be publishing smears against
>me in the NA Bulletin accusing me of being a Federal agent and harboring a
>man who, on two separate occasions, has attempted to murder me, although
>even now I simply cannot believe that he was aware of everything this man
>was (and is)doing in his name.
.>
>        The substance of Dr. Pierce's response viz. Klassen I found
>saddening and shameful; I will not quote it here. But what is germane to
>your query is what he said about me. I quote from RESISTANCE #17 dated
>October 7th, 1991:
.>
>        "Now, as regards our seemingly cool attitude towards you personally,
>Harold [this was before I assumed my present nom de guerre], I think you are
>perfectly aware of why you are not very well regarded in many circles. You
>are not a team player. You take things personally. You BELIEVE too hard and
>too deeply; that means you cannot be trusted to be discreet when discretion
>is called for, not so much in Klassen's case but in the case of, say, Matt
>Koehl [Dr. Pierce then cited other examples of my indiscretions which I
>won't bore you with.] You engage in constant ad hominem attacks. Whether or
>not these people deserve what you say about them is beside the point. It
>LOOKS bad to the supporters for racialists to be squabbling in public like
>fishwives, which is one reason why I have always attempted to quash this
>kind of thing, not just in your case but in [here Dr. Pierce cited several
>other cases. I feel compelled to point out that he has since abandoned his
>own policy of discreet silence where I am concerned, and the National
>Alliance is now the source of some of the most vicious smears and personal
>attacks against me.] 
.>
>        "Harold, the problem is and always has been that, as you yourself
>have pointed out, we are all chasing the same buck...when supporters
>constantly read negative, depressing personal attacks against other
>racialists, when our dirty linen is aired in public, you can almost hear the
>sound of the checkbooks snapping shut. Supporters want either upbeat,
>encouraging news or apocalyptic stuff that will scare them into loosening up
>those checkbooks...you are, pardon the expression, pissing in the well we
>all have to draw water from, when you spread this kind of alarm and
>despondency..."
.>
>        If I may be excused a quote from a Hollywood movie, I think the best
>short response I can make to this criticism comes from the 1994 film CLEAR
>AND PRESENT DANGER. The hero, Harrison Ford, is being taunted by one of the
>villains, appropriately enough a Federal bureaucrat. "You always did see
>things in terms of black and white, Jack," sneers the Feeb.
.>
>        "No!" snaps back Jack Ryan. "RIGHT AND WRONG!"
.>
>        So do I.
.>
>        Finally, my own comment on the matter.
.>
>        Movement people are a strange and fascinating breed; they anger me
>and break my heart but for all that I prefer them to the average consumer
>'droid male and female. Movement people at least have some depth to them.
>Colin Jordan described it best: "Our Movement has a very big heart and a
>very small head." I'm willing to put up with the small head for the sake of
>the big heart, and although I rant and rave about the very bad exceptions,
>the fact is that most of us really do have our hearts in the right place.
.>
>        One of the characteristics of the Movement person is a desperate
>longing for a better world, which translates into an often overwhelming need
>to BELIEVE. Our people urgently want to believe that they are part of an
>overwhelming historical adventure, and of course they are, but not in the
>sense they mean. Their vision of that adventure is essentially incorrect.
>They think they are fish swimming in the tide of history; what they are is
>driftwood being dragged wherever the current takes them. 
.>
>        Being 20th-century Americans with highly atrophied intellects and
>nothing a European would recognize as political consciousness, raised in a
>glad-handing superficial materialistic society that produced P.T. Barnum,
>Amway, and televangelism, they constantly place their trust in PEOPLE rather
>in ideas or in history or in God. The sad truth is that these "leaders" are
>far too often unworthy of their trust and in fact betray that trust
>viciously, cynically, and ruthlessly to serve their own personal profit or
>ego. Precisely why that is has been the subject of much of my written work
>for the past six years. I have already stated what I call The Great Paradox:
>THE CAUSE IS SO RIGHT; THE PEOPLE IN IT ARE SO WRONG.
.>
>        I have assumed a duty station within the Movement which no one else
>had the guts or the honesty to assume. I have taken this task on myself
>because it is clear that if I don't do it, no one else will. I am the
>purveyor of uncomfortable truths, and like all such I am not a popular
>individual. Much of my personal problem comes of course from those who have
>the most pressing, personal, and shameful of motives to discredit and
>silence me, but a lot of it comes from ordinary Movement people who long for
>a Man On A White Horse to descend from the clouds and DO IT ALL FOR THEM, so
>they need incur no risk, so they can watch it all on TV, and above all so
>they will be relieved of the necessity to THINK. Their longing for this Man
>On A White Horse is so intense, so deep, so visceral that they will turn
>like junkyard dogs on anyone who informs them that their Fearless Leader is
>a liar and a thief and in some cases worse. 
.>
>        Facts simply DO NOT MATTER. As far as facts go, I have been right
>every time. The Klassen story is now known to be pretty much as I laid it
>out from 1990 to 1992; public events such as the Fourth Reich Skins debacle
>in L. A., the Tim Hepple fiasco in Great Britain, the Loeb episode, the
>murders of Harry Kelly and Dennis Witherspoon, the Handley/Satterfield
>sodomy convictions in Alabama, the suicide of Steve Martell after being
>buggered by COTC "minister" Jerry Michael Pace, the written confession of
>Chip Myers have vindicated my stand on Old Benny Buttfuck---and to this day
>all these events are completely ignored by the Movement as a whole. 
.>
>        Tom Metzger's obscene "arrangement" with Morris Dees has been the
>subject of worldwide media coverage including a number of news articles,
>wire service stories, triumphant spritzes in various liberal publications
>including Dees' SPLC propaganda, and received top billing on Inside Edition
>and an A & E television special on "hate groups". I have a written statement
>from Metzger himself dated 1991 that mail from his box is being seized and
>confirmation of that from the Fallbrook postmaster. I understand that as of
>about six months ago Metzger himself now admits that the seizure of mail and
>money is taking place; his official excuse (correctly) is that he is under a
>court order and he will go to prison if he does not hand over his mail to
>McElroy. Case closed. And every bit of this overwhelming evidence is simply
>ignored. The Cult of St. Thomas the Martyr thrives within the Movement,
>where I am demonized as Mephistopheles himself appearing in a blast of smoke
>and flame to cast my wicked nets of artifice against the Sainted One, his
>chrome dome wreathed in a halo of racial righteousness. As so often before,
>sometimes I have to make a joke out of it. I have to laugh or else I would
>weep for my dying people in their unconscionable stupidity.
.>
>        I have a history of warning against Will W. Williams going back to
>1989, every bit of it documented out the wazoo. I predicted he would steal
>the NA mailing list; in September 1993 he did so. I predicted he would cause
>chaos in the NA; I have personally been informed of over 100 resignations
>which he precipitated and I was the only one who covered the story when he
>damned near got Pierce busted on a machine gun rap for which two Virginia
>Beach gun dealers actually went to prison. I predicted the Klassen
>connection would turn into an unmitigated disaster for the NA; on May 20th
>Pierce lost the Morris Dees lawsuit, in Bryson City and must now pay $85,000
>damages to the monkoid Mansfield family and an estimated $150,000 in legal
>fees, plus whatever the appeal costs. Once the Fort Bragg GIs are convicted
>in that stupid nigger-shooting down there Dees will probably file another
>lawsuit against the NA due to Williams' involvement with those poor dumb
>kids. I have been proven right about Williams every time and there is still
>more to come, especially if I am correct in believing him to be John Doe #2,
>which is a topic all in itself. My warnings are again being disregarded and
>I am being insulted, abused, smeared, and vilified for uttering them.
.>
>        There is in Movement people a reluctance to live in the real world
>which I have always found frustrating and enraging. It all gets back to the
>Great Paradox: THE CAUSE IS SO RIGHT, THE PEOPLE ARE SO WRONG. People join
>the Movement not to give something to it, but to get something out of it,
>money or ego gratification or a Man on a White Horse to worship. My work
>threatens all of those ignoble motives. 
.>
>        It is always easier to shoot the messenger than to listen to the
>message and act upon it. Shooting the messenger assuages hurt feelings and
>anger, and it relieves people of the need to think, to plan, to make
>critical value judgments, and to change their behavior. Unfortunately, the
>one thing that shooting the messenger does NOT accomplish is to alter the
>bad news or make it disappear. Eventually truth and reality catch up to
>everyone.
.>
>        I wish there were a moral to this story or a happy ending. There
>isn't, I'm afraid. I will keep on shouting out warnings whenever I see
>someone about to step into quicksand. These warnings will be disregarded,
>those I am trying to save will stop to hurl a few rocks in my direction, and
>then they will step headlong into the quicksand and I will once again watch
>while people I genuinely care about and want to help sink slowly out of
>sight to asphyxiate and die in agony, in some cases quite literally. I will
>desperately reach out my hand to try and pull them from the trap, and even
>as they sink and the sands fill their mouth and throat and cover their eyes,
>they will slap that hand aside and call me a Federal spy.
.>
>        In Homeric myth there was a princess of Troy named Cassandra. The
>god Apollo granted her the gift of true prophecy, but the jealous goddess
>Hera added a curse: that Cassandra would always prophecy true, but that no
>one would believe her. When the Greeks brought the Trojan horse before the
>gate Cassandra begged and pleaded with her people not to accept the deadly
>gift. She was ignored. The Trojan horse was brought within the walls and
>Troy perished.
.>
>        I know how she felt.
.>
.>
>                                              Yours for Aryan Victory, always,
>                                              WINSTON SMITH
.>
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As you may be aware, on July 18th, Ingrid Rimland accidentally put her
mailing list in the Bcc field instead of the Cc field, thereby making it
available to all readers. When Ingrid made a similar mistake on March
24th, she apologized. This time, she has chosen to blame her mistake on a
conspiracy. 

In the interest of full disclosure, following is the full text of the
unsolicited email from "NSWPP," http://www.pafb.af.mil/deomi/nswpp.htm,
to all ZGram subscribers. There were 15, with the subject lines below.
The messages are digested in standard mailbox format, with full headers
save the last Received:.

Subject: Introduction to the New N.S.W.P.P.
Subject: What Is National Socialism?
Subject: The Cotswolds Declaration of 1962
Subject: National Socialism and Conservatism
Subject: Ten Principles of National Socialist Thought
Subject: A Purpose In Life
Subject: Who Is George Lincoln Rockwell?
Subject: Struggle For The Soul Of A Race
Subject: The Fable of the Ducks and Hens
Subject: 30 Questions On Oklahoma City
Subject: Racial Leadership Standards
Subject: "The Arrangement"
Subject: A Reckoning
Subject: The Great Paradox
Subject: The Curse of Cassandra

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Dear Comrades In Struggle:
.>
>        This is to advise you that the e-mail address of the National
>Socialist White People's Party (N.S.W.P.P.) is as above. Should the above
>address become no longer valid, i.e. we get pulled off the Net by the Jews
>through their usual pressure, as has occurred in the past with other groups,
>our alternate e-mail address is hcovington@gnn.com. Our mailing address is
>P.O. Box 9444, Chapel Hill, N.C. 27515-9444, U.S.A. Our web site is
>http://members.aol.com/ct8994/private/nswpp/nswpp.html.
.>
>        Commonly called the American Nazi Party, the NSWPP was originally
>founded in 1958 by the late U. S. Navy Commander George Lincoln Rockwell.
>The name was changed in 1967. After a dormant period the Party was revived
>in 1994 in order to fill a perceived gap in the American Aryan racial
>nationalist movement, which at that time had lacked any serious National
>Socialist alternative for a number of years. We believe that there is an
>urgent need for an adult, responsible National Socialist party. There are
>very many misconceptions about National Socialism, especially in the
>right-wing and militia movements, many of whose members have not yet
>progressed in their political and racial education far enough to understand
>that all their lives they have been lied to by the Establishment about Adolf
>Hitler and the true reasons for World War Two.
.>
>        We are interested in hearing from everyone who is involved in the
>struggle against the current racial, economic, social and political evils
>which beset the North American continent. If you will pardon my glomming
>onto a schlock liberal phrase, we need to concentrate on what unites us
>rather than what divides us. We are all fighting against a common enemy in
>Washington D.C., and the dedication and discipline and high degree of
>commitment which only National Socialism can produce, especially in YOUNG
>Aryans, is very badly needed.
.>
>        Please contact us for free literature and information on the Party.
>Understanding is the first key towards victory against our common enemy. For
>generations, ZOG has been telling White people who our enemies are, and we
>all know what kind of world has resulted. It's time we all stopped believing
>ZOG and started thinking for ourselves.
.>
>                                                        Yours for Victory,
.>
.>
>                                                        WINSTON SMITH
>                                                        General Secretary
>                                                        N.S.W.P.P.
.>
.>
.>

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>                         WHAT IS NATIONAL SOCIALISM?
.>
>        National Socialism is a world view for White People, based on the
>ideas and concepts of the German racial nationalist philosopher and
>statesman Adolf Hitler (1889-1945). National Socialism was adapted to the
>political and racial conditions of the United States by the late U. S. Navy
>Commander George Lincoln Rockwell (1918-1967).
.>
>        Owing to the tragic and unnecessary suffering which took place
>during the Second World War, and because certain powerful elements in our
>society to this day maintain an interest in obscuring and concealing the
>truth, half a century after the war's end massive misconceptions still exist
>in America today about what National Socialism was and is. The National
>Socialist body of belief is founded on three principles:
.>
>        1. NATURAL ORDER. We believe that the universe is governed by
>natural laws. In order for Man to be happy and successful, he must first
>learn what these laws are and then follow them. We believe that Man is a
>part of the natural world and that he is in no way separate from or distinct
>from it. Because of this, we believe that society should be structured in
>accordance with the laws of Nature, and not in opposition to them as is the
>case today.
.>
>        2. RACIAL IDEALISM. Racial idealism is based on the love of one's
>own people. It means placing the interests and the welfare of the racial
>community to which you belong ahead of your own personal interests and
>desires. As racial idealists we have no wish to harm, exploit, or persecute
>any other racial groups, despite a persistent media propaganda campaign of
>abuse and deliberate falsification to the contrary. We are only interested
>in protecting our own people against extinction, a fate all too likely is
>nothing is done about present conditions in America.
.>
>        We believe that all men are NOT created equal. Just as every
>individual has his own strengths and weaknesses, so each race has certain
>qualities which make it different from other races. We believe that the
>White (or Aryan) race has the right to maintain its own biological,
>cultural, and political independence and integrity, and that we have the
>right to control our own destiny. We also believe that the White race has
>the right to defend itself against all physical, economic, and spiritual
>assaults, no matter where they come from.
.>
>        3. THE UPWARD DEVELOPMENT OF THE WHITE RACE. We want to do more than
>just defend our race; we want to see it improve. This can be done by
>encouraging a high birth rate among those sections of the White population
>which are the healthiest, strongest, and most intelligent. At the same time,
>our science should work to eliminate hereditary weaknesses and defects among
>our people. Our goal is that each new generation of White children will be
>better than the one before it.
>        
>        In the United States and Canada, National Socialism is represented
>by the NATIONAL SOCIALIST WHITE PEOPLE'S PARTY, which was originally founded
>by George Lincoln Rockwell in 1967 and reconstituted in 1994. The N.S.W.P.P.
>fights for the survival of the White race and for true racial justice
>through the establishment of a sovereign Aryan Republic on North American soil.
.>
>        For more information on our organization and our beliefs, contact
>the Party's Central Support Unit at: NSWPP, P.O. Box 9444, Chapel Hill,
>North Carolina 27515-9444 or send your request via e-mail to the address above.
.>
>For Aryan Victory,
>WINSTON SMITH
>General Secretary
>N.S.W.P.P.
.>
.>
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>                        THE COTSWOLDS DECLARATION OF 1962
.>
>      The Fundamental Statement of the Modern National Socialist World View
.>
>        I. WE BELIEVE that an honest man can never be happy in a naked
scramble for material gain and comfort, without any goal which he believes
is greater than himself, and for which he is willing to sacrifice his own
egotism. This goal was formerly provided by fundamentalist religions, but
science and subversion have so weakened all traditional religions, and given
man such an unwarranted, short-sighted conceit of his "power over Nature",
that he has in effect become his own God. He is spiritually lost, even if he
will not admit it. We believe that the only realistic goal which can still
lift man out of his present unhappy selfishness and into the radiance of
self-sacrificing idealism is the upward struggle of his race, the fight for
the common good of his people.
.>
>        II. WE BELIEVE that society can function successfully, and
therefore happily, only as an ORGANISM; that all parts benefit when each
part performs the function for which it is best suited to produce a unified,
single-purposed whole, which is then capable of out-performing any single
part, the whole thus vastly increasing the powers of all the cooperating
parts and the parts, therefore, subordinating a portion of their individual
freedom to the whole; that the whole perishes and all of the parts suffer
whenever one part fails to perform its own function, usurps or interferes
with the function of another part, or like a cancer devours all the
nourishment and grows wildly and selfishly out of all proportion to its
task---which latter is exactly the effect on society of the parasitic Jews
and their Marxism.
.>
>        III. WE BELIEVE that man makes genuine progress only when he
approaches Nature humbly, and accepts and applies her eternal laws instead
of arrogantly assuming to ignore and conquer Nature, as do the Marxists with
their theories of the supremacy of environmental influence over the genetic
truth of race, special laws of biological equality for humans only, and
their insane denial of the primitive and fundamental human institution of
private property.
.>
>        IV. WE BELIEVE that struggle is the vital element of all
evolutionary progress and the very essence of life itself; that it is the
only method whereby we have won and can maintain dominion over the other
animals of the earth; that we must therefore welcome struggle as a means of
testing and improving us, and that we must despise weaklings who run away
>from  struggle. We believe that life itself is awarded by Nature only to
those who fight for it and win it, not those who wish or beg for it as a
"right."
.>
>        V. WE BELIEVE that no man is entitled to the services or the
products of the labor of his fellow men unless he contributes at least an
equal amount of goods or services of his own production or invention. We
believe that the contribution by a member of society of nothing else but
tokens called "money" is a fraud upon his fellows, and does not excuse a man
capable of honest work of his responsibility to PRODUCE his share.
.>
>        VI. WE BELIEVE that it is to the advantage of society to see that
every honest man has freedom and opportunity to achieve his maximum
potentials by preserving his health, protecting his from unforseeable and
ruinous catastrophes, educating him to capacity in the areas of his
abilities, and guarding him against political and economic exploitation.
.>
>        VII. WE BELIEVE that Adolf Hitler was the gift of an inscrutable
Providence to a world on the brink of Jewish-Bolshevik catastrophe, and that
only the blazing spirit of this heroic man can give us the strength and
inspiration to rise, like the early Christians, from the depths of
persecution and hatred, to bring the world a new birth of radiant idealism,
realistic peace, international order, and social justice for all men.
.>
>        THESE SEVEN PRINCIPLES are the rock of our faith. With them, we
shall move the world. The political party program we adopt, based on these
principles, can and will change as events and facts change, as we discover
better methods. But these seven principles are fundamental, absolute, and
timeless truth. They will not change. We bind ourselves permanently and
without reservation to these ideals, and the battle to establish them as the
only scientific and realistic basis for human society.
.>
.>
>        FOR MORE INFORMATION on National Socialism in America, contact the
National Socialist White People's Party, P.O. Box 9444, Chapel Hill, North
Carolina 27515-9444.
.>

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Dear Racial Comrades:
.>
>        The founder of the NS Movement in America, the late Commander George
>Lincoln Rockwell, once defined the difference between National Socialism and
>conservatism as follows: "A National Socialist wants to save his RACE. A
>conservative only wants to save his MONEY."
.>
>        To some extent, I regret to report that is still true. But over the
>past few years I have seen a number of signs that many conservatives are
>finally waking up and smelling the coffee. 
.>
>        They are coming to understand that when all is said and done, almost
>all of our problems today are primarily RACIAL. The penny is finally
>dropping that the central historical force in human events is not Communism
>or capitalism or religion but RACE. You can cover the truth up with code
>words about crime and welfare and drugs, but it's all race, and I think many
>of the more advanced elements among conservatives are starting to think
>thoughts which a few years ago would have been unthinkable for them. Some of
>them are beginning to say things which a few years ago would have been
>unspeakable, as we saw in the Buchanan campaign. The Establishment simply
>can't keep the lid on much longer. RACE is busting out all over. The facts
>are simply too obvious for even the blindest of the conservatives to ignore
>any longer.
.>
>        What must now happen is that conservatives need to quit trying to
>win brownie points with the Establishment by attacking National Socialists,
>Klansmen, and the more racially advanced members of their own movement like
>Dr. Sam Francis and Jared Taylor. They need to understand and accept that
>while they may not agree with everything National Socialism believes (yet),
>the fact is that pioneers like George Lincoln Rockwell have been far more
>correct in their formulation of the problem and their predictions than many
>erstwhile "Great White Hopes" like George Wallace. Pat Buchanan has come the
>closest of all to bringing a genuine racial debate forward in this country,
>but even he crumpled under the pressure during his late Presidential primary
>campaign and tried to lick the boots of the Jews and the media by denouncing
>his own supporters if they had "extremist" backgrounds.
.>
>        My racial brothers and sisters, we have got to stop being afraid of
>words like "racist" and "extremist'. Our future and the future of our
>children and our country depend on what we do in the next few years. Let's
>not fall into the trap of slinging the Jews' mud for them because we think
>if we do so the media might cut us some slack. They won't. IF YOU OPPOSE
>"THE AGENDA" YOU ARE GOING TO BE CALLED A RACIST, A NAZI, AND AN ANTI-SEMITE
>NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY OR DO. 
.>
>        So why bother? Why not just go with the truth and spit in the eye of
>the liberals and their slavering cur lapdogs among the so-called
>"conservatives"?
.>
>                                                           For White Victory,
>                                                           WINSTON SMITH
>                                                           General Secretary
>                                                           N.S.W.P.P.
>                                                               
.>
.>
.>

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                     TEN PRINCIPLES OF NATIONAL SOCIALIST THOUGHT
.>
>        I. BE HONEST. A National Socialist faces a fact whether he likes it
>or not. Dishonesty is the mark of the enemy. National Socialism above all
>represents living truth in its purest form.
.>
>        II. BELIEVE IN GOD AND YOURSELF. The God of Destiny subjects only
>His strongest mortals to enormous tasks which would crush lesser men. God
>wills only the best to fulfill the highest task of life: to perfect mankind.
>Give yourself utterly unto Destiny, and God will shield you in your fight.
>God helps only those who help themselves. We will lose only if we lay down
>our arms due to our weakness and cowardice. There is only one true disgrace:
>submission to the enemies of our race.
.>
>        III. BE FAITHFUL TO YOUR RACE. No one must be allowed to spoil what
>Nature created down through aeons of racial evolution. Your highest purpose
>in life is to carry on that evolution toward a stronger, better, more
>beautiful mankind. The purity and strengthening of the Aryan race is the
>basic requirement of every future higher evolution.
.>
>        IV. FIGHT FOR YOUR RACE. Fight for the holy ideals of National
>Socialism, the heart of your great race. Only in this struggle can you prove
>your true worth as a man or a woman. Only thus can you fulfill your
>potential for courage, dedication, and ennobling self-sacrifice. Life's
>struggle for survival brought Man upwards from the apelike beings of the
>distant past to the height of Aryan culture and achievement. The Party's
>struggle will produce the revolutionary elite who will lead the National
>Socialist ideal to victory.
.>
>        V. YOU ARE A SUPERIOR INDIVIDUAL. You will be outnumbered in this
>struggle, because the best are always a minority. History-making decisions
>have never been the work of formless masses, but always victories by active
>and dedicated minorities. You are both the servant and the spokesperson for
>your race. Make sure you set an example worthy to be followed in your person
>and your life.
.>
>        VI. LOVE YOUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS. You owe your existence to your
>racial family; let your love of them be your overriding passion in life. Do
>not fear the Undermen, the racially inferior, and do not persecute them. You
>are their superior, but you are not their owner. When the time comes to
>fight them, do not lose your senses through counterproductive hatred. Detach
>yourself, clear your mind, and destroy them completely, methodically,
>clinically, as if in a surgical operation. Nothing is more pointless than
>wasting time hating mud people; it detracts from the positive love of your own.
.>
>        VII. IMPROVE YOUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS. All Aryan men and women are
>your brothers and sisters, although not all are equally intelligent or
>courageous. It is up to you to inform them, to encourage them, and to
>instill their hearts with courage. Some of your kinsfolk have been misled
>and made ugly by the Judaic evil which is corrupting our racial soul. You
>must not hate them on that account, but rather strive to bring them back to
>their racial family.
.>
>        VIII. REJECT THE DECADENCE. Decadence is anything which detracts
>either physically or spiritually from the health and the upward development
>of our Aryan race. You must hold your racial and spiritual purity above your
>very life, and not associate with anything which is decadent or which gives
>your life the appearance of decadence. Every aspect of life must be judged
>in relation to the survival and improvement of your race; anything hindering
>these attainments must be ruthlessly rooted out and destroyed.
.>
>        IX. THE BEST MUST RULE. All great achievements on earth are the
>product of great leadership, political or scientific or artistic. The racial
>community can gain strength only by applying the Leadership Principle and
>placing in front the men and women who have demonstrated superior ability,
>dedication, and tenacity in the racial struggle. Democracy is a sickness
>which leads inevitably to chaos, corruption, and the collapse of society;
>from democracy steps forth the cruellest of tyrants. 
.>
>        X. NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE. Where there is a will, there is a way.
>Everything falls before the man of indomitable will. Suffering and sacrifice
>are necessary; we are hardening ourselves for the most decisive struggle in
>all of human history. Victory will fall only to the most truthful, the most
>fanatical, the strongest, the bravest, and the best. Be that.
.>
>        For further information contact the National Socialist White
>People's Party, P.O. Box 9444, Chapel Hill, North Carolina 27515-9444 U.S.A.
>Originally founded in 1958 by Commander George Lincoln Rockwell, the
>N.S.W.P.P. is the standard-bearer of National Socialism in North America
>today. Find out how you can help fulfill your racial destiny, by joining and
>supporting the Party of Adolf Hitler and George Lincoln Rockwell.
.>
>                                        #
.>
.>
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                       A PURPOSE IN LIFE
>>
>>        Life without purpose is mere existence. As such it has no meaning
>or value. It is worthless, of no consequence. It doesn't count.
>>
>>        Today most people exist as mere protoplasmic blobs. Spiritually and
>actually they are zeroes, nobodies, ZILCH. They are not true people, but
>zombies.
>>
>>        These walking dead have but one concern: to feel good, be "happy",
>and go along with the brainless herd. But that is not a purpose---it is
>merely an excuse for somnabulism and selfishness. It has no enduring value
>for the future.
>>
>>        Indeed, the aspirations of such sleepwalkers can be compared to
>those of a slug or a mosquito. In each instance there is nothing more than
>an inane quest for creature comfort and ego-gratification. The only
>difference is that humanoids do it in a dead-end, produce/consume society.
>>
>>        Today's artificial, materialistic, politically correct,
>neo-Bolshevik, hee-haw society can, in fact, offer no higher purpose. It can
>only serve up decadence, degeneracy, disintegration, alienation, and
>ultimately death.
>>
>>        There is an alternative, however. There is a purpose which can
>transform mere existence into real, creative LIVING and give meaning to the
>life of the individual.
>>
>>        Such purpose involves commitment to something greater than one's
>petty self. That something lies in the transcendent reality manifest in race
>and blood. In the natural community of one's own kind and in the upward
>striving of Aryan mankind toward a better world, we recognize a purpose
>truly worthy of our highest aspiration and commitment.
>>
>>        This concept is RACIAL IDEALISM, and it is the cornerstone of our
>world view. It begins with an honest recognition of one's own identity and
>heritage as part of a larger group of similarly created beings. Only then
>does individual alienation disappear. Only then does life acquire worth and
>meaning. Only then does one become a true PERSON. Only then is there the
>possibility of genuine personal fulfillment and satisfaction as the salutary
>byproduct of a higher purpose.
>>
>>        There is a cause which makes it all possible. If you believe there
>is more to life than mere self-fixation, the rat race, and a big sleepwalk;
>if you want to make your life COUNT---if you want to give it real meaning
>and value---then you should find out about this cause.
>>
>>        It is called National Socialism.
>>
>>        For more information contact the National Socialist White People's
>Party, P.O. Box 9444, Chapel Hill, N.C. 27515-9444 U.S.A.
>>
.>
.>
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.>
>                        WHO IS GEORGE LINCOLN ROCKWELL?
.>
>        George Lincoln Rockwell was born in Bloomington, Illinois, in the
>home of his maternal grandfather, on March 9, 1918. His father was a very
>successful headline comedian from 1912 until about 1935. His ancestors were
>German, French, English, and Scotch, numbering among them many Revolutionary
>War figures and going back to Marie Antoinette, the French Queen.
.>
>        Rockwell stayed in Bloomington, Illinois, only until he was old
>enough to get out of the hospital, when he was taken on the vaudeville
>circuit by his parents. He then spent some time in New Jersey, New York, and
>California, but most of his youthn was spent in Boothbay Harbor, Maine. He
>attended Hebron Academy, a prep school near Lewiston, Maine after which he
>entered Brown University in Providence, Rhode Island, majoring in
>philosophy. In college, Rockwell enjoyed and did well in the sciences and
>other objective courses, but fought blindly and instinctively against the
>"sociology" and other similar departments which, unknown to him, were then
>preaching the Marxist environmentalism and equalism which has played such
>havoc with our human, biological sciences.
.>
>        Leaving Brown in the middle of his junior year in 1940, when it
>became obvious that the U.S. would get into World War Two, Rockwell enlisted
>as a seaman in the United States Navy in Boston, Massachusetts. By the
>outbreak of World War Two on December 7, 1941 he had entered naval aviation,
>and became a scout pilot and a fighter pilot. He served aboard the U. S. S.
>Omaha in the South Atlantic and off North Africa during the invasion. He was
>then sent to the Naval Photographic School for pilots and assigned to the
>U.S.S. Wasp, and from there went to the Pacific theater. He became a
>Commander of Forward Air Control Operations for Marine Corps assault troops.
>He was at Guadalcanal, Guam, and other Pacific hot spots. At the end of
>World War II he was commanding officer of a squadron in Hawaii, earning nine
>decorations.
.>
>        Released from active duty, Rockwell attended Pratt Institute art
>school in New York, working part time in advertising and commercial art. In
>1948, while still at Pratt, he won first prize of $1,000 in the National
>Society of Illustrators competition for a full page newspaper ad for the
>American Cancer Society. Although still in the ready reserves as Commanding
>Officer of a squadron in Washington, D.C. he launched a new magazine, "U. S.
>Lady", for the wives of U. S. service men. In 1949, Rockwell founded the
>first big national advertising agency in the state of Maine. Recalled for
>the Korean War in 1950, he trained Marine and Navy pilots in close support
>of troops and then was transferred to Iceland, where he became commanding
>officer of a squadron at Keflavik.
.>
>        At about this time he became deeply concerned about the way all he
>had fought for in two wars was being turned over to Communism. He noticed
>that almost all of the convicted Communist spies and traitors such as Julius
>and Ethel Rosenberg, Nathan Silvermaster, Harry Dexter White (Weiss), Robert
>Soblen, Morton Sobell, David Greenglass, Judith Coplon, Harry Gold, Miriam
>Moskowitz, Fred Rosenberg, and Sam Cohen (chief Communist spies caught in
>Canada) and most of the Communist intellectual leaders such as Herbert and
>Bettina Aptheker, were racial Jews. He was especially shocked to find that
>"Who's Who In World Jewry", published b the Jews themselves, listed many of
>these atheist Communists very proudly as Jews, even though Rockwell then
>believed Jews were just a religion.
.>
>        Observing that Hitler had said that Communism was Jewish, and that
>the Jews were out to degenerate and conquer the White race by subversion and
>race-mixing, Rockwell bought a copy of MEIN KAMPF and read it, even though
>he thought he already knew what was in it from all he'd heard. He was
>astounded to find that it was actually a brilliant analysis of the mess
>Western Civilization had gotten into, and the only plan he'd ever seen for
>the White race to save itself.
.>
>        For a number of years, he tried to work with various "right wing"
>organizations, all of whom believed, as he did for a while, that it was
>necessary to disguise one's belief in Adolf Hitler and National Socialism.
>Finally disgusted with the emptiness, the weakness, the hypocrisy and
>especially the cowardice of the so-called "conservatives", Rockwell
>determined to ATTACK at last, flying the Swastika banner which had come so
>close to saving Western civilization and the White race. "Since our Cause is
>fundamentally the truth," he explained to horrified friends, "I do not see
>how we can win by lying or misrepresenting what we are for fear of the Jews.
>The only time in the hundred years of the rise of Communism that this plague
>has ever actually been BEATEN, it was beaten not by 'conservatives' but by
>radicals and fighters whom the enemy called Nazis and Fascists and whom they
>really did fear. Only in Germany, Spain and Italy has Communism ever been
>conquered. We are damned fools to be afraid to follow the only examples that
>ever worked!"
.>
>        He hung up a Nazi banner in front of his home and dared the Jews to
>do something about it. They---and their friends and dupes---came in droves
>and mobs to do something about it, but Rockwell survived all the shooting,
>the rocks and other Jewish "arguments". The publicity gave him a much-needed
>platform from which to call the attention of his fellow Americans to the
>increasingly desperate situation of America and our great White family of
>peoples.
.>
>        Rockwell believed it was time for the White man to take America back
>from the aliens, the minorities, and the terrorists in power, under the
>demagoguery of cheap politicians. To accomplish this Rockwell believed he
>had to win not the few in the right wing, or the upper classes, but the
>millions and millions of our people. And to win these people he had to offer
>them something besides a lot of empty platitudes about freedom and the
>Constitution. Only National Socialism offered a positive and progressive
>program for ALL Aryan people, rather than just the middle and upper classes,
>and combined a concern for the purity and protection of the White race with
>a fighting determination to stop all further mongrelization of our people.
.>
>        Within five years Rockwell had led the Nazi Party from a tiny and
>scorned band of roughnecks willing to take to the streets to fight treason
>and race-mixing, to a Party which had headquarters in Washington, Chicago,
>Los Angeles, and most major cities, and commanded the grudging respect of
>the enemy, even though there was powerful censorship of the American right
>to know what Rockwell was doing.
.>
>        Under Commander Rockwell, the Party published the ROCKWELL REPORT,
>the STORMTROOPER, and the NATIONAL SOCIALIST WORLD, along with bulletins for
>Party members only. Rockwell had plans to organize the White Guard---young,
>White fighting men to help protect society from the black and Red revolution
>which had already conquered the police departments of Los Angeles, Chicago,
>Cleveland and many other cities. 
>        
>        George Lincoln Rockwell is the father of the present-day racialist
>movement in the U.S. and the founder of American National Socialism. For
>most of his turbulent career as Commander of the A.N.P, Rockwell lived a
>shadowy existence on the fringes of the American political scene. He was
>misunderstood and rejected by the vast majority of his fellow White
>Americans, whom he loved dearly. He and his tiny band of "roughnecks" were
>alternately cursed, ridiculed and ignored by the mass media. They fought
>street battles without end against Communist and Jewish thugs who sought to
>silence them by force, and spent many a night in jail, courtesy of hostile
>politicians and police officers. Throughout it all, Lincoln Rockwell's
>warrior spirit of courage, idealism, and heroic defiance was never crushed.
.>
>        His years of persistence finally paid off in 1966, when thousands of
>White men, women, and youth in Chicago followed his leadership in a
>spontaneous uprising against efforts forcibly to integrate all-White working
>class neighborhoods. The uprising culminated in the now-famous White
>People's March of September 10th, 1966, in which hundreds of Whites followed
>Commander Rockwell's leadership under the sign of the Swastika.
.>
>        Tragically, within a year Lincoln Rockwell was dead. On August 25th,
>1967 this authentic American hero was murdered in Arlington, Virginia, under
>circumstances which have never been satisfactorily cleared up but which
>point very heavily towards the Jewish Anti-Defamation League, and also to at
>least some involvement on the part of the man who seized control of the Nazi
>headquarters and "succeeded" Rockwell. The trigger man was later convicted
>and received a short prison term; his accomplices in the corridors of power
>and the traitor within the headquarters who made the phone call telling the
>gunman where Rockwell would be were never charged or punished.
.>
>        Yet although Lincoln Rockwell died on that dark Friday in August,
>his heroic spirit lives on in the hearts and minds of White men and women
>everywhere who continue to draw inspiration from his mighty example. The
>Party he founded was reconstituted in 1994, and you may obtain further
>information by writing to the N.S.W.P.P., P.O. Box 9444, Chapel Hill, N.C.
>27515-9444, U.S.A.
.>
>        HEIL HITLER!
.>
.>
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Dear Racial Comrades:
.>
>        The following is a reprint of the lead article in RESISTANCE #26,
>dated March 1st, 1993. Of all the articles I ever wrote, including my book
>THE MARCH UP COUNTRY, it is this one piece which has received what can be
>called universal acclaim, even if I do say so myself. It has been reprinted
>many times in many publications and translated into at least six languages
>that I know of. I personally consider it one of the best things I have ever
>written, because even more than most, STRUGGLE FOR THE SOUL OF A RACE came
>from the heart.
.>
>        I have gone to the length of re-typing this entire article into
>e-mail format and sending it to you because of the increasingly intense
>criticism, rumor-mongering, and violent personal abuse directed against
>myself and the NSWPP, due to our habit of pointing out that certain Emperors
>have no clothes. Rather than go into a long contemporary explanation, I
>believe this article from three years ago states clearly and concisely what
>I believe, why I believe it, and why I do what I do.
.>
>        I would also like to point out that this article was written:
.>
>        A) Five months before Klassen was found dead with his head in the
>toilet in the bathroom of his luxurious mountain home in Macon County, N.C.,
>an alleged "suicide". His death caused a sigh of relief in certain quarters;
>he was becoming an embarrassment.
.>
>        B) STRUGGLE appeared six months before Will W. Williams stole the
>National Alliance mailing list in September of 1993 and sold it to John
>McLaughlin and Art Jones, thus confirming in a manner which even the most
>blind could not ignore that I was entirely correct in my assessment of him; 
>       
>        C) Nine months before Williams was expelled from the National
>Alliance headquarters although still allowed to retain the title of "North
>Carolina State Organizer". Why it took so long for Dr. Pierce to move after
>the theft of his mailing list, and why a man who had stolen the mailing list
>was allowed to retain any connection at all with the NA is a puzzle. I
>suspect a large part of it was because Dr. Pierce would rather walk around
>with substantial quantities of egg on his face, pretending it wasn't there,
>than admit the unthinkable: that he had MADE A MISTAKE;
.>
>        D) Eleven months before the NSWPP was reconstituted. I cannot
>therefore be accused of having a financial or political motive for my
>comments made in 1993;
.>
>        E) Two years before the Oklahoma City bombing and the subsequent
>very strong suspicion that Will W. Williams is the mysterious "John Doe
>Number Two";
.>
>        F) Two years and nine months before the GI shootings in
>Fayetteville, North Carolina, from his involvement in which Will W. Williams
>has danced away on tiptoe like Tinkerbelle, free and clear, evidently so
>heavily protected that he was able to have a subpoena from the grand jury
>investigating the shootings quashed;
.>
>        G) Three years and two months before Dr. William L. Pierce lost the
>lawsuit brought by Morris Dees over the Klassen property and was compelled
>to pay $85,000 to some niggers in Oklahoma and all the court costs. The
>lawsuit gobbled up whatever profit Pierce realized on the Klassen spread and
>the civil judgment and the appeal (if any) will probably bankrupt the NA.
>The ghastly error in judgment which he made by becoming involved with the
>Klassen sodomy cult and Will W. Williams is henceforth as clear as a bell.
.>
>        Have I the gift of prophecy? No. I just know the Movement in general
>and Will Williams in particular.
.>
>        Finally, I apologize for the length of this e-mail and the
>subsequent problems some of you may have with downloading and storing it.
>But these things have to be said, and I hope you will find the content
worth it.
.>
>****************************************************************************
>**** 
.>
>                         STRUGGLE FOR THE SOUL OF A RACE
>                      (From RESISTANCE #26, March 1st, 1993)
.>
>The article began with a letter:
.>
>"Dear Winston:
.>
>        "One of the things I have always respected in you was your ability
>to accept constructive criticism and respond to it intelligently, and to
>understand that disagreement is not necessarily disloyalty or hostility.
>This trait alone sets you head and shoulders over most other figures on the
>racial right. I'd like a word with you about the direction RESISTANCE has
>been taking in recent months. I am sure I am not alone in my concerns.
.>
>        "It is my considered opinion that the point of diminishing returns
>has set in with regard to your single-handed crusade against the Church of
>the Creator and Benny Klassen's ex-henchman Will Williams. As you know, I
>have always applauded your efforts at exposing and debunking Old Benny
>Buttfuck's idiotic pretensions. I myself had what you refer to as the "Five
>Minute Revelation" back in 1984; after five minutes in Klassen's presence I
>understood what I was dealing with, politely made my excuses, and left. I am
>willing to give you full credit for a bravura performance where Benny is
>concerned, and I believe you probably had more to do with his sudden flight
>last June than you yourself may think. Don't sell yourself short.
.>
>        "What I question is the pursuit of the crusade beyond any apparent
>necessity I can discern for its continuation. The remnants of the cult are
>confined to the Milwaukee and southern Ontario area and appear to be falling
>apart. It is problematical whether COTC will survive for a full year without
>Klassen's money. I specifically question the wisdom of your present campaign
>against Will W. Williams. I met the man once and wasn't overly impressed
>with him, but obviously Dr. Pierce feels differently. I am given to
>understand that Williams now admits he made a mistake regarding Klassen and
>has 'turned over a new leaf', and if someone of the stature of Dr. William
>L. Pierce is willing to vouch for Williams, surely this must count for
>something? Why should he not be given a second chance to redeem himself? Nor
>can I understand your objection to Dr. Pierce obtaining a hefty profit from
>the sale of Klassen's North Carolina property, funds which will be used to
>advance the racial struggle. A major political movement cannot survive on
>little $5.00 and $10.00 donations; it needs capitalization and a sense of
>realpolitik. There is no such thing as 'dirty money' if it helps our cause.
.>
>        "Finally, I think your present policy is impolitic and is creating
>unnecessary trouble for yourself. Williams has presented you with a
>situation where you can't dig the gopher out of his hole without damage to
>the farmer's crops, so to speak. You deny that you mean to harm the
>Alliance, and I believe you; you accuse Williams (with reason) of hiding
>behind Dr. Pierce, but the fact is that to hit Williams you are going to
>have to fire through Pierce, as it were, and all that nine out of ten
>Movement people will see are the 'bullet holes' in the Alliance, not your
>actual target. If Williams is really the louse you say he is, he'll
>eventually hang himself. It's time to move on to other things."
>                                                        -N.A. Member
>                                                         Name Withheld
.>
.>
.>
>        My reply was as follows:
.>
>        I do not believe that the title above (STRUGGLE FOR THE SOUL OF A
>RACE) is in any way hyperbole or exaggeration. The response which the White
>racial nationalist movement gives as a whole to the letter reprinted on page
>one, that is to say the response we give to the kind of thinking behind it,
>may well determine whether Aryan man survives.
.>
>        It is 1993. We are running out of time. Within half a century,
>Whites will be a minority on the continent of North America, but the battle
>will be lost long before that. At some point we will cross an age median
>wherein the bulk of our people who do survive here have become too old
>actively to resist. The future that awaits America at present is of an
>increasingly elderly and infirm White population "cared for", if it can be
>called caring, by an increasingly black and brown medical and geriatric
>support establishment. I have no idea when the point of no return will be
>crossed, but the point exists and we are roaring towards it at breakneck speed.
.>
>        It is utterly essential that the White racial resistance movement
>begin developing the strategies, the tactics, the formations, and the
>ideology with which we will eventually confront the present power structure
>in bloody revolutionary struggle. We must begin doing this NOW. Not next
>year, not the year after. WE NO LONGER HAVE TIME FOR THE KIND OF BULLSHIT
>WITH WHICH WE HAVE FRITTERED AWAY THE PAST THIRTY YEARS.
.>
>        But before we can do this, it would appear that we need to decide a
>few things. We need to decide who we are. And we need to determine precisely
>by what right we claim the authority to speak in the name of our people and
>do the things necessary to save them from destruction.
.>
>        That is what the Klassen issue is all about. This is what the
>Klassen issue has ALWAYS been about. No my personal credibility, since I do
>not give a flying fornication what anyone thinks of me. Not the disgusting
>details of Klassen's deviate sexual practices, which have been known for
>years by anyone who cared to take notice. Not whether he had certain people
>killed or whether those who inconvenienced him simply developed this purely
>coincidental habit of walking into bullets and hypodermic needles. Not
>Klassen's guilt, but OURS. Not what Klassen did to us, but what we did NOT
>do about him. To write it all off as a "personal feud" between myself and
>that wretched, unutterably silly little man Will Williams is imbecilic in
>its shallowness.
.>
>        The issue is nothing less that THE ABILITY OF THE WHITE RESISTANCE
>MOVEMENT TO PLACE THE RACIAL STRUGGLE ON A MORAL BASIS. Without it we are no
>more genuine revolutionaries than South American colonels plotting a two-bit
>military coup so our gang can loot the national treasury instead of the
>current El Presidente and his lot. If we take that kind of attitude, then
>when it comes to the crunch we won't be able to hack it. We will lose, and
>our race will perish.
.>
>THE CRUCIAL MORAL DIMENSION
.>
>        People, let me tell you something. I'm scared. I'm scared by
>something I have observed in the Movement over the past four years. Scared
>of what, you ask? Scared of ZOG? Scared of the FBI? Scared of the Mossad?
>Scared of the bloodthirsty hordes of ravening National Alliance assassins
>with daggers in their teeth, who will momentarily descend from the misty
>mountain passes of West Virginia at Will Williams' command to have a talk
>with me? None of the above.
.>
>        I am frightened and worried sick by a growing tendency I observe in
>the White racial nationalist resistance, a tendency which if unchecked will
>destroy us more surely than anything Bill Clinton or Israel or the ADL could
>ever do. I refer to our increasingly manifest INABILITY TO DISTINGUISH
>BETWEEN RIGHT AND WRONG.
.>
>        I never thought I would see the day when Ernst Zundel, of all
>people, goes on speaking tours arm in arm with a Jew, David Cole. I never
>thought I would see the day when Povl Riis-Knudsen would leave his wife,
>move into sexual cohabitation with an Arab, and blithely explain that it's
>all right because Arabs hate Jews just like we do. I never thought I would
>see the day when homosexuality became tacitly accepted in the Movement to
>the point where German NS leader Michael Kuehnen would die of AIDS and still
>be honored by many. 
.>
>        And I never, ever thought in my wildest dreams that I would see the
>day when a man whom I like and respect---the writer of the letter which
>appears on page one---would seriously suggest that a thief and a
>pathological liar who for years functioned as the primary accomplice to a
>Jewish millionaire cult leader, a man who assisted that cult leader in the
>commission of fraud, libel, deviate sexual offenses and with 99.9% certainty
>the commission of murder as well, should be given a "second chance to redeem
>himself". A second chance, lest we forget, involving access on the part of
>this individual to the most sensitive information imaginable---the names and
>addresses of the members and supporters of the Movement's foremost
>organization, the National Alliance.
.>
>        Hey, call me old-fashioned. Call me an old fuddy-duddy, a curmudgeon
>so set 
>in my ways that I believe we actually ought to hold PRINCIPLES and try to
>live and act on the boring things. I mean, anything goes if it helps the
>cause, right? And what's a spot of buggery and homicide among friends?
.>
>        Thankfully, the people from whom I am getting the above rap are
>still in the minority. But what disturbs me is the fact that the people who
>ARE starting to lay all this despicable moral relativism on me are some of
>the oldest and most intelligent and most ideologically educated among us.
>They are not people who can be ignored or laughed off. I can only conclude
>that years of degenerate media propaganda are starting to take their toll
>even on us, and that the unending litany of Movement failure and mediocrity
>and disappointed frustration have combined with the general debasement of
>society as a whole to produce a jaded, opportunistic, cynical and calloused
>mindset among those who used to be our brightest and best.
.>
>        How DARE we go to the White people of America and claim the right to
>lead them, while harboring a creature like Will Williams among us? How DARE
>anyone, no matter what their credentials or how long their service, stand up
>in any Movement forum and claim that homosexuality is acceptable under ANY
>conditions? How DARE anyone have the gall to advocate that we welcome the
>presence of "good Jews" among us?
.>
>        If I sound like I'm spluttering, I am. People, I admit it---this one
>is beyond me. I simply cannot find the words to cast this sick,
>contemptible, unspeakably cowardly and despicable compromise with the filth
>far enough into the flames of hell where it belongs. It is moral vomit. It
>is leprosy of the soul.
.>
.>
>A SYMBOL OF OUR DECAY
.>
>        I referred to Little Willie previously as an unutterably silly
>little man, and so he is. But he has become something far more in the
>symbolic sense. Will W. Williams is the living, breathing incarnation of
>everything that is wrong with the White right today, the paradigm of our
>whole tragic history of failure since 1945. He has come to embody intellect
>without principle, talent without discipline, arrogance without courage,
>privilege without responsibility, and transgression without punishment.
>        
>        Will W. Williams symbolizes Movement Business As Usual---you screw
>up in one right-wing group, you just pack your grip and move on to another
>one. Like a desert nomad looking for an oasis, you roam from "patriotic"
>front to book-peddler to cluster-fucKKK to mini-Fuhrer, looking for that
>free flop and any new racist dodge which will let you live without working.
>There are always plenty on down the line, and you know all the old pros in
>the racket won't be too worried about your last Fearless Leader being a Jew
>and a faggot who had one of his bugger-boys knocked off. Hey, that's
>Movement biz, comrade! After all, we all got a skeleton or two in our
>closet, eh? (Nudge, nudge! Wink, wink!) Now how about sticking a few shekels
>in the mail to the post office box so we can keep on fightin' fer the good
>ole White race?
.>
>        This is not revolution. It is horse shit. We are where we are today
>not only because we have tolerated Will Williams per se, but because we have
>tolerated a thousand like him in the past three decades. If we do not find
>some way to deal with the problem that Will Williams poses now, then we will
>face the same problem again and again on down the line from others of his
>kind, until we learn to solve it---or until we run out of time. I wouldn't
>want to bet on which will come first.
.>
.>
>ESTABLISHING A BOTTOM LINE
.>
>        We claim the right to rule our own destinies and the destiny of this
>earth because we are superior. So we are, genetically speaking. But there is
>no point in being genetically superior if we are going to comport ourselves
>like White trash. For us to go before an Aryan race facing extinction and
>offer the likes of Will W. Williams as leadership is grotesque. It is
>bizarre. It is macabre. We are asking to the White race to go out not with a
>bang, not even with a whimper, but with a fart.
.>
>        We have to establish a level below which the individual Aryan cannot
>sink without surrendering his rights and his membership in the racial
>community, some recognized lower limit beyond which realistic political
>compromise becomes depravity. By any reasonable moral yardstick, Will W.
>Williams sank beneath that line years ago. If we tolerate his return to the
>fold, then we will tolerate anything. To give this wretch a "second chance
>to redeem himself" is an abdication of every moral value which
>differentiates us from the Jew.
.>
>        Arguably, the most salient feature of the White racial nationalist
>movement since 1945 is our complete inability to enforce any kind of
>standards, internal discipline, or sanctions against lunacy and racial
>crime. RESISTANCE is a pathetically inadequate, one-man effort at least to
>redeem our racial honor, even if this or any mere newsletter cannot be
>effective in accomplishing such a gargantuan task. In return, I get letters
>accusing me of "feuding" with people.
.>
>        Hecklers sometimes ask me if I'm such an expert, why don't I show
>everybody how it's done? Why don't I form the "Great Amurrican White Power
>Patriot Party" with myself as Grand Panjandrum, install a $49.95 K-Mart
>answering machine as a White Power Hotline, get on the talk show circuit,
>run around in the streets waving a sign, so forth and so on. Some of you may
>recall that I DID play that once upon a time. Sure, I could dig out my old
>uniform and start calling myself "Commander Siegfried" or something, and if
>I promised to wear my costume I could be on Oprah and Donahue and Sally
>Jesse Raphael within a year.
.>
>        Or I could really give it a serious go, really see if we are capable
>of doing it right. Hell, maybe I will someday. I've learned never to rule
>anything out. But the reason I don't is that I no longer have the patience
>to deal with stupidity on the part of those who claim to support the cause.
>Eventually I'd be arrested for ripping somebody's lips off. And of all the
>various kinds of stupidity which I can no longer tolerate, the worst is what
>I might describe as THE WILLFUL REFUSAL TO UNDERSTAND.
.>
>        I despise intellectual laziness. The vast majority of those who
>criticize RESISTANCE know perfectly well that I know what I'm talking about,
>know perfectly well that I am telling the truth, and know perfectly well why
>that truth so badly needs to be told. But they don't want to think about
>things like the Beatific Buggeries of Benny or Will W. Williams rooting in
>the National Alliance mailing list like a happy hog. If they think about it,
>they might feel compelled to DO something about it. They might have to
>engage in the unpleasantness of factional political struggle. They might
>have to COMMIT themselves, actually TAKE SIDES! Horrors! We can't have that!
.>
>        Laziness. Pure, bone-idle moral laziness.
.>
.>
>THE ENEMY WITHIN
.>
>        I have said it before and I will say it again. The Jews are not the
>enemy. The congoids are not the enemy. The Bilderbergers and Trilateralists
>are not the enemy. Hill and Billary are not the enemy. The international
>bankers and the Federal Reserve are not the enemy. The street-corner Reds
>are not the enemy. WE are the enemy. Everything in the White man that is
>weak, self-indulgent, morally lazy and cowardly, everything which encourages
>that WILLFUL REFUSAL TO UNDERSTAND---that is the enemy. Every one of us sees
>the enemy in the mirror every morning. He is the part of us that looks like
>Will Williams.
.>
>        As for me waging a "feud", damned straight I am! I am waging a feud
>to the death with the Enemy Within, the enemy most responsible for thirty
>years of defeat and despair and racial humiliation. The enemy so few of us
>can find the courage to admit exists, never mind face down.
.>
>        I'm not fool enough to believe that I can single-handedly defeat
>that lethal Enemy Within. But he'll damned sure know he's been in a fight.
.>
.>
>                                                -Winston Smith              
.>
.>
.>

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Subject: The Fable of the Ducks and Hens

                       THE FABLE OF THE DUCKS AND HENS
>>>                       by George Lincoln Rockwell
>>>
>>>
>>>Many, many years ago,
>>>When animals could speak.
>>>A wondrous thing the ducks befell,
>>>Their tale is quite unique.
>>>
>>>Down by a pond dwelt all these ducks,
>>>Ten thousand at the least.
>>>Their duckish joys were undisturbed
>>>By any man or any beast.
>>>
>>>One day down near the entrance gate,
>>>There was an awful din.
>>>A hundred hens all out of breath
>>>Were begging to come in.
>>>
>>>=93Oh let us in!=94 these poor birds cried,
>>>=93Before we do expire!=94
>>>=93Tis only by the merest inch
>>>That we escaped the fire!=94
>>>
>>>Their feathers burned, their combs a droop,
>>>They were the saddest sight.
>>>They=92d run a hundred miles or more,
>>>All day and then all night.
>>>
>>>=93Come, come in!=94 the ducks all quacked,
>>>=93For you our hearts do bleed!
>>>We=92ll share our happy lot with you,
>>>Just tell us what you need!=94
>>>
>>>And so these poor bedraggled hens
>>>Amongst the ducks moved in.
>>>For, after all, the ducks declared,
>>>=93We=92re sisters =91neath the skin.=94
>>>
>>>Before too many months had passed,
>>>The hens were good as new.
>>>They sent for all their rooster friends,
>>>And these were welcomed too.
>>>
>>To please their host, these chickens tried
>>>To waddle and to quack.
>>>To simulate the duckish ways
>>>They quickly learned the knack.
>>>
>>>This pleased the flock of ducks because
>>>It gratified their pride.
>>>....But hear my tale and learn how they
>>>Got taken for a ride.
>>>
>>>The ducks, it seemed, spent all their time
>>>In fixing up their place,
>>>In growing food and building homes
>>>And cleaning every space.
>>>
>>>They asked the hens what they would do
>>>To earn their daily bread.
>>>=93We=92ll teach and write and entertain,
>>>And buy and sell,=94 they said.
>>>
>>>And so these hens began to teach
>>>The baby ducks and chicks.
>>>They traded food and eggs and things,
>>>With many clever tricks.
>>>
>>>They wrote great books & put on shows,
>>>Of genius they=92d no lack.
>>>It wasn=92t long till chickens owned
>>>The Duckville Daily Quack.
>>>
>>>One day a mother duck who took
>>>Her ducklings to the lake,
>>>Was flabbergasted when one said,
>>>=93A swim I will not take!=94
>>>
>>>=93Why ducklings always swim!=94 she gasped,
>>> =93It=92s what you=92re built to do!
>>>Like bunnies hop, and crickets chirp,
>>>And cows most always moo!=94
>>>
>>>=93Your just old fashioned, a fuddy duck,
>>>That stuff is all old hat!=94
>>>=93It=92s wrong for birds to swim; ...besides,
>>>It=92s too cold on my little pratt!=94
>>>
>>>=93Oh fie!=94 the mother duck exclaimed,
>>>=93You=92re talking like a fool!=94
>>>Up quacked the other ducks and said,
>>>=93He=92s right! Ms. Hen taught us that in school!=94
>>>
>>>=93Such things must stop!=94 the mother cried,
>>>=93Those hens can=92t teach such lies!=94
>>>=93For sheer ingratitude and nerve,
>>>I=92m sure this takes the prize!=94
>>>
>>>....But she was wrong, for even then
>>>The hens did thump the tub.
>>>Demanding they be let into,
>>>The Duckville Swimming Club.
>>>
>>>=93But you don=92t swim!=94 the ducks all cried,
>>>To join, why should you care?=94
>>>=93That=92s not the point!=94 the hens replied,
>>>=93To exclude us isn=92t fair!=94
>>>
>>>The younger ducks, who=92d been to school,
>>>Agreed right there and then,
>>>=93To keep them out is bigotry!=94
>>>=93T=92would just be ANTI-HEN...!=94
>>>
>>>Outnumbered by the younger ducks,
>>>The old ducks soon did loose;
>>>They agreed to let the hens all in,
>>>If they would pay the dues.
>>>
>>>That night the Duckville Daily Quack
>>>Contained this banner spread:
>>>=93Reactionary Ducks Are Licked!
>>>DUCKVILLE MOVES AHEAD!=94
>>>
>>>Down at the Duckville Gaiety,
>>>The younger set laughed with glee,
>>>At cracks about =93Old Fuddy=92 Ducks=94
>>>In burlesque repartee.
>>>
>>>Next day the hens were at the club,
>>>A petition they=92d sent around.
>>>They objected to the swimming fund
>>>With fury and with sound.
>>>
>>>=93You use our dues to fix the pond,
>>>to keep it neat and trim.=94
>>>=93And this is wrong,=94 they said, =93Because
>>>You know we do not swim!=94
>>>
>>>=93God help us!=94 cried a wise old duck,
>>>=93These chickens have gone mad!=94
>>>=93We=92ll take this to the court, by George,
>>>And justice will be had!=94
>>>
>>>But when they went up to the judge,
>>>Imagine their dismay!
>>>A CHICKEN-JUDGE decreed that they
>>>Had a heavy fine to pay!
>>>
>>>=93Minorities must have their rights!=94
>>>The judge declared right then.
>>>=93To use hen=92s dues to fix the pond
>>>Is very ANTI-HEN...!=94
>>>
>>>Once more the Duckville Daily Quack
>>>Emblazoned across the page:
>>>=93Old Foggy Ducks Refuse to See
>>>The Great New Coming Age!=94
>>>
>>>In Duckville church on Sunday morn,
>>>The preacher spoke these words,
>>>=93Discrimination=92s got to stop!
>>>Remember we=92re all birds!=94
>>>
>>>The wisest duck in all the town
>>>Sat down in black despair.
>>>=93I=92ll write a book,=94 he thought, and then
>>>=93This madness I will bare!=94
>>>
>>>=93Let Swimmers Swim, let Hoppers Hop,
>>>Let Each One Go His Way.
>>>Let No One Coerce a Fellow Bird!=94
>>>Was what he had to say.
>>>
>>>=93Twas wrong to force the hens to swim
>>>So here=92s the problem=92s crux;
>>>It=92s just as bad for hens to try
>>>To chicken-ize our ducks!=94
>>>
>>>=93I can=92t print that,=94 the printer said,
>>>=93Twill put me in a mess!=94
>>>=93My shop is mortgaged to the hens,
>>>The chickens own my press!=94
>>>
>>>This worried duck then tried to warn
>>>His friends by speech and pen.
>>>Young ducks fresh from school just jeered
>>>=93He=92s one of those a vicious Anti-Hens...!=94
>>>
>>>Now up the stream a little way
>>>Was Gooseville, on the lake.
>>>The hens had come to Gooseville too,
>>>But the Geese were more awake.
>>>
>>>When the hens began to spoil the young
>>>And Gooseville=92s laws to flout,
>>>The Geese Rose Up in Righteous Wrath
>>>And Simply Threw Them Out...!!!
>>>
>>>Of course, you know where they all ran;
>>>On Duckville they converged.
>>>=93We=92ve got to take these refugees.=94
>>>Was all Duckville=92s hens had urged.
>>>
>>>The Duckville Daily Quack declared:
>>>=93These Geese Will Stop at Naught!
>>>=93They Plan to Conquer all the World!=94
>>>=93Atrocities They=92ve Wrought!=94
>>>
>>>=93That=92s right!=94 the young ducks agreed,
>>>=93We=92ll help our fellow birds!
>>>These Geese have plans to conquer us!
>>>....We=92ve read the Quack=92s own words!=94
>>>
>>>They let the hens from Gooseville in,
>>>The whole bedraggled pack.
>>>.... And every hen took up a job
>>>on the Duckville Daily Quack!!
>>>
>>>When the Duckville mayor=92s term was up,
>>>The Quack put up it=92s Duck;
>>>A vain and stupid duck was he,
>>>A veritable ... cluck!
>>>
>>>But when he praised the wild young ducks,
>>>And cursed the evil Geese,
>>>The Quack declared he was =93all wise,=94
>>>His praise would never cease.
>>>
>>>The hens chipped in to help this cluck
>>>Give grain away for free.
>>>The old ducks sadly shook their heads,
>>>The writing they could see.
>>>
>>>And sure enough, this stupid duck,
>>>He was elected mayor.
>>>From this point on, The Duckville ducks,
>>>They never had a prayer.
>>>
>>>The Mayor said, =93Gooseville must GO!=94
>>>=93We=92ll wipe them off the map!=94
>>>While Duckville slept, the scheming hens
>>>For Gooseville set the trap.
>>>
>>>They called the Geese by filthy names;
>>>They filled their pond with sticks.
>>>They helped the weasels catch the Geese,
>>>and other hennish tricks.
>>>
>>>The Geese got mad and threw the sticks,
>>>=93It=92s WAR!=94 the Quack announced.
>>>=93We ducks must Fight those evil Geese,=94
>>>=93Till they=92ve been soundly trounced!=94
>>>
>>>The ducks (who knew not of the tricks
>>>Indulged in by the mayor),
>>>Were filled with patriotic zeal,
>>>And pitched right in for fair!
>>>
>>>So when the ducks whipped the Geese,
>>>The Mayor called =93Retreat!!=94
>>>=93Our HENVILLE friends should really take Gooseville=92s big main=
 street!=94
>>>
>>>The hens were back in Gooseville now;
>>>They starved and beat the Geese.
>>>They prayed for =93Peace=94 =97 but organized
>>>The =93HENVILLE ARMED POLICE!!!=94
>>>
>>>They drained the Geese=92s swimming pond,
>>>They =93De-Goose-ified=94 their schools;
>>>They wrung the Gooseville mayor=92s neck On lately mad-up rules.
>>>
>>>They formed a council of the hens;
>>>=93UNITED BIRDS=94 the name.
>>>The other birds who joined the thing
>>>Did not perceive the game.
>>>
>>>No sooner had they set this up,
>>>Than they announced their hennish plan:
>>>To seize up Swanville as a home
>>>For all their hennish clan.
>>>
>>>They took a vote among the hens,
>>>And everyone approved!
>>>=93Swanville was for HENS!=94 they said,
>>>=93Way back, before we moved,=94
>>>
>>>And so they kicked the swans all out,
>>>With Duckville=92s help and power
>>>And Duckville couldn=92t understand
>>>Why swans, on them turned sour.
>>>
>>>By this time, Duckville was a mess,
>>>The young ducks had all gone mad.
>>>They stole and laughed at Truth and Law;
>>>They went completely =93bad.=94
>>>
>>>The hens were selling Loco Weed
>>>in every nasty den.
>>>But ducks who dared to mention this,
>>>Were labeled =93ANTI-HEN...!=94
>>>
>>>The hens all preached of =93Tolerance,=94
>>>They invoked the =93Golden Rule,=94
>>>But they subsidized the indigent,
>>>The greedy and the fool.
>>>
>>>At last the very dumbest ducks
>>>Began to smell a rat.
>>>=93This mayor is no good!=94 they cried,
>>>=93And we will soon fix that!=94
>>>
>>>But the hens had planned for even this
>>>A candidate they had,
>>>Whom even wise old ducks believed
>>>Just never could be bad.
>>>
>>>This Hen-tool duck whipped the Geese,
>>>A soldier Duck was he.
>>>Although the hens had set him up,
>>>The Ducks all thought him free.
>>>
>>>This Hen-tool got elected,
>>>Through ignorance and greed,
>>>Through hennish lies in Press & Speech,
>>>Through Bribes of =93Chicken Feed.=94
>>>
>>>The hens now kicked the ducks around
>>>Without a blush of shame,
>>>Until the mayor ran the town
>>>In nothing else but name.
>>>
>>>They pumped the Duck=92s pond all dry;
>>>They taught the ducks to crow,
>>>While duckish numbers dwindled,
>>>The hens began to grow.
>>>
>>>The hens stirred up the happy crows
>>>From out of the piney wood,
>>>To Fight to Mix and Marry ducks
>>>in the name of =93Brotherhood.=94
>>>
>>>Things got so bad that fifty ducks,
>>>Who knew the days gone by;
>>>Took up their wives and children
>>>And decided that they=92d fly.
>>>
>>>They flew through storms and tempest;
>>>They froze, and many died.
>>>But on they drove, until, at last,
>>>A lovely lake they spied.
>>>
>>>They settle down exhausted,
>>>But soon went straight to work;
>>>To build and clear and cultivate,
>>>No danger did they shirk.
>>>
>>>Now after many years of toil,
>>>This little band had grown.
>>>The fields around were full of grain
>>>From seeds that they had sown.
>>>
>>>The first ducks were long since dead;
>>>Their struggles long had ceased.
>>>Through hard work and suffering,
>>>Their joys had been increased.
>>>
>>>One day down near the entrance gate
>>>There was an awful din;
>>>A hundred hens, all out of breath,
>>>Were begging to come in.
>>>
>>>=93Oh, let us in!=94 these poor birds cried,
>>>=93Before we do expire!=94
>>>=93Tis only by the merest inch....=94
>>>=93... ... ... ...=94
>>>
>>>....This epic really has no end,
>>>Because No matter how you fight em,
>>> Those HENS=92ll show up Every Time.
>>>
>>>And So, ...Ad Infinitum ...!!!
>>
>>
>>         For more information on the life and career of George Lincoln
>Rockwell,
>>contact the National Socialist White People's Party, P.O. Box 9444, Chapel
>>Hill, N.C. 27515-9444 U.S.A.
>>
>>
>>
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.>
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>                       THIRTY QUESTIONS ON OKLAHOMA CITY
.>
>        1. If the bombing of the Alfred E. Murrah Federal building in
>Oklahoma City was a terrorist reprisal for the Federal massacre of the
>Branch Davidians at Waco, why were no BATF or FBI agents injured? Why was
>EVERY BADGE-CARRYING FEDERAL AGENT absent from work at nine o'clock on a
>weekday morning and their offices staffed only with civilian clerical workers?
.>
>        2. When the word first got out that no Federal agents had been
>present in the building, the BATF produced its Resident Agent Alex McCauley
>who told a long story about his own heroism and that of a fellow ATF man who
>allegedly fell three floors in an elevator, walked away from it, and then
>helped rescue others trapped by the bomb. This was quickly exposed as a
>fabrication in an angry interview by building maintenance supervisor Duane
>James, who described McCauley's story as "pure fantasy". James examined the
>elevator in question and also the central control panel and pointed out a
>number of technical and logical reasons why the miraculous elevator incident
>simply couldn't have happened in the way claimed. The McCauley account was
>quietly retracted and flushed down the memory hole by the ATF, with the help
>of the media. They now admit that McCauley was nowhere near the building
>when the bomb went off, although they refuse to discuss his exact
>whereabouts or the whereabouts of any other ATF agent at the time of the
>explosion.
>        Will BATF Agent Alex McCauley be disciplined for telling a
>self-serving lie which falsely made himself out to be a hero? If that was
>not the purpose, why did he make this palpably false public statement?
.>
>        3. Why was U.S. Judge Wayne Alley, whose office was located in the
>Federal building, warned several weeks in advance in a Justice Department
>memo to be prepared for an unnamed "terrorist act" directed against the
>Federal building?
>        
>        4. Judge Alley made the above admission to the Portland OREGONIAN
>immediately after the bombing. He has since refused to repeat it or allow
>himself to be interviewed again. Why?
.>
>        5. Why did Ken Stern of the American Jewish Committee fax warnings
>to Federal judges and officials, legislators, and prosecutors warning of a
>possible attack on a government building of installation on the second
>anniversary of Waco on April 10th, 1995, nine days before the OKC bombing?
.>
>        6. "Norma", a witness who worked in an office building just down the
>street from the Federal building, told reporter Sherry Koonce what she saw
>prior to the explosion: "The day was fine, everything was normal when I
>arrived for work at about 7:45 A.M. There was some talk about the bomb squad
>among the employees at our office. We wondered what it was doing in our
>parking lot. Around nine I heard and felt a huge explosion. Then someone
>said it had to be a bomb, and we all knew. I remembered the bomb squad in
>our parking lot and knew what had happened."
>        "Norma" has since quit her job, gone into hiding and refused to
>speak again to any reporters or investigators. So have a number of other
>people who saw the heavily armed and equipped bomb squad in the area up to
>three hours before the blast. Why?
>        
>        7. Why has all mention of the facts outlined in questions 1 thru 6
>disappeared from the news media after the first week of coverage of the
>bombing? Why has the media consistently suppressed and refused to report any
>information or evidence which indicates that, at the very least and
>regardless of who was responsible, there was Federal foreknowledge that the
>bombing would take place?
.>
>        8. By definition, a terrorist must take credit for his violence, or
>else there is no compelling reason to commit a crime. The specific purpose
>of terrorism is to gain a political end through the credible threat to
>commit future acts of violence. No one has claimed credit for the Oklahoma
>City bombing. Militia and right-wing groups, the alleged masterminds and
>presumed beneficiaries, have been particularly vehement in denouncing the
>explosion and in many cases have cooperated directly with Federal agencies
>to absolve themselves of any involvement. The only statement of alleged
>political motive we have comes from the very government which was attacked.
>Why is this?
.>
>        9. Did the Alfred Murrah building warehouse documents relating to
>the attack on the Branch Davidians at Waco? If so, what happened to those
>documents? Were they destroyed? If so, were any copies kept elsewhere? If
>not, why not?
.>
>        10. Will the missing papers, if any, affect former Attorney General
>Ramsey Clark's lawsuit against the ATF and FBI on behalf of the Branch
>Davidian survivors?
.>
>        11. Why did the Director of the University of Oklahoma's Geological
>Survey, Dr. Charles Mankin, tell the media that according to two different
>seismographic records there were TWO blasts, the second approximately eight
>seconds after the first?
.>
>        12. The news media initially reported two explosions, based on
>eyewitness testimony. Why did this version of events disappear from print
>and the air waves within twenty-four hours?
.>
>        13. U.S. government Technical Manual No. 9-1910 from the Department
>of the Army and Air Force entitled MILITARY EXPLOSIVES, which specifies that
>ANFO, the acronym for Ammonium Nitrate and Fuel Oil bomb said to be used on
>the Murrah building, requires a greater than 99% purity of ammonium nitrate,
>as well as a specific dryness before it can be mixed with diesel fuel to
>create an explosive substance. The manual further spells out that even under
>ideal conditions (not often reached even by experts) 4,800 pounds of ANFO
>explosive would create a much smaller crater than the one left in front of
>the Murrah building, and its shock wave could not possibly wield the force
>necessary to compromise the building's concrete support. The FBI claims that
>the ANFO charge was made from 50 bags of fertilizer. Ammonium nitrate
>fertilizers comes in much weaker concentrations than the 99%-plus required
>for explosives. Creating concentrated amounts of ammonium nitrate is quite
>complex, and would require many bags of fertilizer. In short, according to
>the government's own textbook, the Oklahoma City bombing COULD NOT HAVE
>HAPPENED IN THE WAY THE FBI SAYS IT HAPPENED. IT IS A PHYSICAL, CHEMICAL,
>AND THERMODYNAMIC IMPOSSIBILITY.
>        Why is the FBI lying?
.>
>        14. Retired Air Force Brigadier General Benton K. Partin, former
>commander of the Air Force Armament Technology Laboratory, a 25-year expert
>in the design and development of bombs, urged Senators and Congressmen to
>delay the destruction of the Murrah building site. Partin stated in a news
>release, "When I first saw the picture of the truck bomb's asymmetrical
>damage to the Federal building in Oklahoma, my immediate reaction was that
>the pattern of damage would have been technically impossible without
>supplementary demolition charges at some of the reinforced concrete bases
>inside the building, a standard demolition technique. Partin further
>explained that "reinforced concrete targets in large buildings are hard
>targets to blast. I know of no way possible to reproduce the apparent
>building damage through simply a truck bomb effort." General Partin's
>request to have the bomb site preserved in order to examine the possibility
>of a second explosion was ignored by the government. Why?
.>
>        15. General Partin's press release, quoted above, was reprinted by
>the John Birch Society magazine NEW AMERICAN. Based on this the news media
>launched an egregious and bogus smear campaign against General Benton K.
>Partin, claiming falsely that he was a member of the John Birch Society and
>therefore a "right-wing extremist". General Partin has been forced
>repeatedly to threaten lawsuits in order to force grudging and deliberately
>downplayed retractions and corrections of this allegation. His alleged JBS
>membership still appears in print and broadcast media today as fact even
>though the media are by now perfectly well aware that the allegation is
>false. Why are the news media telling a deliberate lie in order to discredit
>a highly respected expert who questions the official government version of
>Oklahoma City?
> 
>        16. There have been repeated studies done by a variety of accredited
>explosives experts and professional demolition contractors, such as former
>FBI agent Ted Gunderson. All of these have stated their professional opinion
>that the destruction of the Murrah building could only have been
>accomplished with top-grade military explosives, detonators, and careful
>placement of multiple charges. Why have the media ignored these expert
>opinions? Why, indeed, have the media engaged in a concerted campaign to
>abuse, vilify, discredit and marginalize as a "crank" or a "right-wing
>extremist" any explosives expert or engineer who questions the official FBI
>version of the bomb's construction and explosive power?
.>
>        17. There is not a single piece of concrete evidence to connect
>either Timothy McVeigh or Terry Nichols to any militia or right-wing group.
>Why has the news media refused to acknowledge this fact and continued to
>spread the patently false assertion that McVeigh was a member of a militia
>group?
.>
>        18. Terry Nichols has been married twice, once to a Mexican woman
>and once to a Filipina. Obviously, a man who marries women of color not once
>but twice and has children with them can hardly be called a racist. Why has
>this fact, which clearly precludes any racist or neo-Nazi involvement in the
>bombing of the kind which is repeatedly implied by the media, not been given
>any significant exposure at all?
.>
>        19. Having allegedly just committed a coldly calculated, carefully
>and meticulously planned mass murder, why did Timothy McVeigh then suddenly
>turn into a Clouseau-like klutz and do everything but send up a flare to
>draw attention to himself, speeding out of the state at almost 100 mph in a
>car without a license plate, virtually guaranteeing that he would be stopped?
.>
>        20. Timothy McVeigh is a highly trained combat NCO who won a Bronze
>Star for courage under fire in the Gulf. Having been stopped by a state
>trooper, being armed with a pistol, knowing that he now faced either
>execution or imprisonment for the rest of his natural life, why did McVeigh
>make no move at all to defend himself or escape, but instead surrender like
>a little lamb? 
.>
>        21. FBI agents are said to have tracked down McVeigh's truck rental
>agency by finding a vehicle identification number (VIN) on the truck's rear
>axle. This axle was found either in the bomb crater, according to the mayor
>of Oklahoma City's initial press statement, or three blocks away according
>to the later FBI version. Which statement is true?
.>
>        22. There is another problem to the Ryder truck tale. No rear axle
>on any vehicle manufactured in America is imprinted with a VIN, even after
>recent legislation forcing manufacturers to place multiple VINS on the
>engine, firewall, and frame to discourage chop shops. When queried, a
>spokesman for Ryder told reporters than it does not imprint additional VINS
>on its trucks. The only conceivable number available on a rear axle is a
>part number, but a part number couldn't lead to the identification of a
>specific vehicle. We have here another case where the FBI version of events
>simply COULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED in the way the Bureau claims it happened.
>Where did the VIN story come from? Why has it been created and circulated by
>the media?
.>
>        23. Did McVeigh use fake I.D. or his real I.D. to rent the truck?
>The FBI has told both stories.
.>
>        24. The FBI detained and interrogated Timothy McVeigh's young sister
>Jennifer and Terry Nichols' twelve year-old son. They announced in the media
>that both of them were suspects and that Jennifer McVeigh was facing
>indictment and the death penalty. These charges disappeared from the media
>and both young people were released. What is the story here?
>     
>        25. Who is John Doe Number Two? Does he exist at all? The FBI first
>conducted a nationwide manhunt for JD-2 over a period of several weeks. Then
>they claimed that a U.S. Army soldier on leave, whose published photographs
>bear no resemblance whatsoever to the photofits, was JD-2. Then they claimed
>for some months that JD-2 does not exist and all the witnesses who saw him
>were mistaken. Now they are hedging again and say they have an "open mind"
>about whether John Doe Number Two exists. What is going on here?
.>
>        26. In January of 1996 National Public Radio broadcast a half-hour
>special containing interviews with half a dozen witnesses who personally saw
>John Doe Number Two in the Ryder truck with Timothy McVeigh on the morning
>of the bombing. These witnesses all had one thing in common; other than a
>cursory preliminary interview by the FBI they had up until that time been
>approached by neither the prosecution nor the defense to appear as witnesses
>at the trial. Why not? Will any witnesses who saw John Doe Number Two be
>called to testify?
.>
>        27. In the summer of 1995 a mysterious American named Daniel
>Spiegelman was arrested in the Netherlands for trafficking in stolen
>diamonds and antiques. In July of 1995 the Janet Reno Justice Department
>quietly applied for Spiegelman's extradition to the United States IN
>CONNECTION WITH THE OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBING. This was accompanied by
>representations at the highest level demanding that the Netherlands courts
>hear the case in camera and that the proceedings be kept completely secret.
>Through his attorney Spiegelman fought extradition, a Dutch judge refused to
>impose secrecy on the hearing, the media got hold of it, and Janet Reno
>allegedly withdrew the extradition request, whereupon the entire bizarre
>episode vanished from public view. No more media blackout in the OKC case
>has been more complete than the blackout imposed over the name of Daniel
>Spiegelman; it is as if he has stepped off the face of the planet.
>        Who is Daniel Spiegelman? What connection does he have with Oklahoma
>City? Is he John Doe Number Two? Does he know who John Doe Number Two is?
.>
>        28. FBI informant and star witness Michael Fortier, who admits to
>trading his testimony for lenient sentencing on gun charges himself, claims
>that he and Timothy McVeigh scouted out the Murrah building several weeks in
>advance looking for the BATF offices therein. If that is true, why did
>Timothy NcVeigh stop the Ryder truck at a gas station on the morning of the
>bombing and ask directions to the building? And why did he park the truck on
>the side of the building the farthest away from the BATF offices, when there
>was an available parking lot which would have placed the truck bomb almost
>directly under the windows of the BATF even if it was seven stories up?
.>
>        29. Why was the reaction of the Clinton administration, blaming
>right-wing radio talk shows for the incident and demanding the most
>draconian police state legislation ever proposed in the United States, so
>swift and obviously organized? The air of orchestration about the whole
>government response did not escape notice even at the time, in all the high
>emotionalism prevalent, and was commented on by a number of observers all
>across the political spectrum. 
>        A blizzard of OKC-related "domestic terrorism" bills were rushed
>into Congress in a matter of days, some of them pre-written and already
>printed up BEFORE THE BOMBING. These proposed laws cover everything from
>banning virtually all privately owned firearms to unlimited and
>court-admissible Federal wiretaps to censorship of the Internet to the
>suspension of habeas corpus in "terrorism" cases to the grotesque
>destruction of the First Amendment advocated in Charles Schumer's bill H.R.
>2580, which imposes a five-year prison sentence for publicly engaging in
>"unseemly speculation" and publishing or transmitting by wire or electronic
>means "baseless conspiracy theories regarding the Federal government of the
>United States". Who decides what is a "baseless conspiracy theory'? Why, the
>very same government, of course.
>        How exactly was a normally cumbersome, inefficient, and glacially
>slow legislative branch able to move so quickly, so comprehensively, and so
>efficiently in introducing these laws which will strip Americans of what
>remaining freedoms they have?
.>
>        30. Why is it taking so unconscionably long for the trial of Timothy
>McVeigh and Terry Nichols to begin?        
.>
>                                        #
.>
.>
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To All Aryan Racial Nationalists:
.>
>        The National Socialist White People's Party considers the following
canons of personal and ethical behavior to be the minimum acceptable
standards for any man or woman claiming any kind of leadership within the
racial struggle.
.>
>        1. The personal lifestyle of the quondam leader must REFLECT THE
VALUES of the cause which he or she claims to serve and advocate.
.>
>        2. Theft, embezzlement, and/or conversion of monies donated by
supporters to advance the cause of the Aryan cause to the personal use of
the leader is unacceptable.
.>
>        3. The use of monies donated by supporters to advance the Aryan
cause in order to purchase, develop, and maintain large rural compounds or
ranches or farms which are ostensibly "National Headquarters" but are in
actual fact the personal, residential retirement estate of the leader is
unacceptable.
.>
>        4. The abuse of women on the part of the leader, either phsyically
through beating and assault or sexual exploitation. is unacceptable.
.>
>        5. Homosexuality on the part of the leader of any alleged racial
nationalist organization, or on the part of any member or associate of any
racial nationalist organization, is absolutely, unequivocally and
non-negotiably unacceptable. Homosexuality is morally wrong, and completely
incompatible with any participation whatsoever in the racial struggle.
.>
>        6. The transmission of correspondence, including names and
addresses, and any portion of funds donated by supporters to advance the
racial struggle, to Morris Seligman Dees or any other enemy of the Aryan
race, is completely unacceptable. The existence of any court order
compelling such transmission of funds and information to the racial enemy is
irrelevant and under no circumstances acceptable as an excuse for such
behavior. The transmission of any information involving other racial
nationalists to the enemy, either in the manner described above or through
public broadcast on a recorded message, is absolutely incompatible with the
most basic standards of decency and Aryan honor, and anyone who engages in
such activity is permanently precluded from any participation in the racial
struggle. The word for such people is INFORMER.
.>
>        7. Alcoholism in a leader, including drunkenness in public and
drunkenness while speaking on a recorded telephone message, is unacceptable. 
.>
>        Anyone who is unable to maintain the standards delineated above in
their personal and political life does not belong in the ranks of the Aryan
racial struggle and should either resign or face concerted efforts at
removal through the only weapon currently available to legitimate racial
activists in dealing with such people, i.e. constant public exposure.
.>
>        The NSWPP regrets to note that these standards of ethics and
behavior for those claiming leadership in the racial struggle, which we
consider minimal, are apparently too stringent for the taste of certain
otherwise intelligent and potentially valuable leadership figures within the
Movement.
.>
>        The NSWPP regrets to note that we have within the Movement certain
otherwise intelligent and potentially valuable people who publicly defend
some or all of the behaviors described above. The NSWPP further notes that
these people are without exception completely unable to refute the FACTS
which have been publicized by the Party in certain specific cases, and
therefore respond with vicious and unprincipled personal attacks against
those who dare to point out that the Emperor has no clothes.
.>
>        The National Socialist White People's Party will continue its
present vigorous and unrelenting campaign to enforce basic standards of
ethics, personal integrity and behavior, and basic honesty throughout the
entire spectrum of the Aryan racialist movement. It is profoundly
appropriate that the National Socialism of Adolf Hitler and George Lincoln
Rockwell, being the most advanced element of the Aryan struggle, be
entrusted with the collective conscience of our Movement and our Folk. The
struggle with the Enemy Within, the enemy in our bathroom mirror every
morning who is far more deadly to us than any Jew or Communist or BATF gun
thug, will continue without letup.
.>
>        Let those who are unable to meet the standards laid out above, and
those who would defend those who violate such standards, take note.
.>
>For Victory,
>WINSTON SMITH
>General Secretary
>NSWPP         
.>

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>To All Aryan Racial Nationalists:
.>
>        To bring those of you who may not be aware of the facts up to
speed, Tom and John Metzger of the White Aryan Resistance (W.A.R.) group
have been conclusively exposed in the national news media as long-term
informers and assets of the Southern Poverty Law Center run by the loathsome
Morris Seligman Dees.
.>
>        In February of 1994 the Montgomery ADVERTISER printed a series of
expose articles on the Southern Poverty Law Center and the shady activities
of Morris Seligman Dees in general. One section of these articles referred
to the 1990 lawsuit brought against Tom Metzger and WAR in Portland, Oregon
by Dees, using an Ethiopian kaffir as a shill. Metzger lost the lawsuit and
was hit with a $12.5 million dollar civil judgment. 
.>
>        As part of that judgment, the court ordered all mail coming into
Metzger's WAR post office box in Fallbrook, California to be seized and
turned over to a series of court-appointed receivers, of whom the latest is
San Diego attorney James McElroy. Under the terms of what is known as a
"consent decree", which was finalized when Metzger lost his appeal to the
Supreme Court in May of 1994, McElroy collects and opens all mail addressed
to Metzger or WAR. He then extracts all monies sent to WAR either as
donations or as product purchases, deposits 50% of the money into a special
trust fund for the Ethiopian nigger, and the remaining 50% is given to
Metzger in order to allow him to keep operating and let him pay off the
judgment (with White racialist money).
.>
>        The existence of this arrangement was confirmed in a letter to
Winston Smith by Fallbrook postmaster Robert Higgins dated April 30th, 1994.
.>
>        James McElroy also forwards copies of all correspondence (including
names and addresses of anyone who writes to Metzger) to the Southern Poverty
Law Center in Montgomery. In at least one case, the murder trial of Skinhead
Mark Lane in Birmingham, correspondence seized from Metzger's WAR post
office box was used by the prosecution to send a young White man to prison
for life.
.>
>        The above "arrangement" has been given nationwide publicity through
not only the Montgomery ADVERTISER expose series, which has been widely
reprinted, but through major articles in Metzger's hometown paper, the San
Diego UNION-TRIBUNE; a number of wire service articles which have been
carried across country in the past two years; it has been the partial
subject of an Arts and Entertainment Network cable TV special on "hate
groups"; and finally of course has been extensively boasted of by Morris
Dees himself and his agent, attorney James McElroy. In February of 1995
extensive media publicity was given to McElroy's safari into the mountains
of Ethiopia to turn over to some teenaged nigger the sum of $100,000 seized
>from  the sale of Metzger's home and also from proceeds collected from his
mail. The SPLC has also brought the monkoid to America and taken him on the
left-liberal rubber chicken circuit as a highly publicized fund-raising gimmick.
.>
>        It must be understood, very clearly, that there is NO DOUBT
WHATSOEVER that the seizure of the mail from his post office box is taking
place. NONE. Nationwide media publicity aside, the exact sequence of
official court-appointed receivers and all details were unearthed by Rick
Cooper of the National Vanguard and published in an article of his in June
of 1995. Cooper lives near Portland and was able to research the original
court documents, and he went so far as to make a trip to California on his
vacation in order to examine the legal documents involved in the collection
of the $12.5 million judgment. These included legal seizure orders on the
box dated from April of 1991, orders which Metzger denies ever occurred.
Cooper has conclusively proven that Tom Metzger has systematically and
deliberately lied to his own supporters over a period of five years in order
to continue living off the Movement without working. 
.>
>        The Movement as a whole owes Cooper a debt of thanks for his
sterling and energetic efforts to uncover the truth and for his willingness
to publish his findings which prove Metzger's guilt, despite his own freely
admitted bias in Metzger's favor. 
.>
>        The latest development is that Metzger apparently no longer bothers
to maintain the pretense of innocence. Tom Metzger has begun admitting to
his closest supporters or people who force him to discuss the subject or
otherwise pin him down (in one case, someone who demanded to accompany
Metzger to the Fallbrook post office and observe while he opened the box
with his own key and removed the mail with his own hands, which Metzger was
unable to do) that the NSWPP and the media reports are correct and that
McElroy is in fact collecting and opening WAR mail and extracting money. 
.>
>        Metzger claims (correctly) that this is done under court order,
that the same court order denies him permission to use any other address for
WAR, and that he will go to prison for contempt if he attempts to evade the
civil consent decree. (All this has been confirmed by Rick Cooper's
ground-breaking research.) The NSWPP views these excuses as unacceptable;
turning over information and money to Morris Dees is turning over
information and money to Morris Dees. 
.>
>        Metzger also denies that McElroy is sending names and addresses and
copies of letters to Dees and that he is merely taking money. In view of
what we know of the behavior of Morris Dees, and in view of Metzger's
consistent history of lying and evasion, the NSWPP does not find this
contention to be credible. 
.>
>        In addition, since the exposure of "The Arrangement", Metzger has
engaged in a number of other activities which cast severe doubt upon his
integrity, his honesty, his intelligence and his mental and emotional
balance. This e-mail is already very lengthy; suffice it to say that the
contents and delivery of Metzger's recorded phone messages have been such as
to indicate a substance abuse problem and/or a schizophrenic and decaying
personality; and that there are several specific incidents of criminal and
deranged behavior on his part which are extremely suspicious in that they
have gone unpunished by the authorities. It has become almost impossible to
avoid the suspicion that Tom and John Metzger are being allowed to continue
to operate because in doing so they are serving some ulterior purpose on the
part of the System.
.>
>        Finally, possibly the most sinister development of all is the
growth within the Aryan racial nationalist Movement of what has been called
"The Cult of St. Thomas the Martyr". This irrational and somewhat hysterical
cult, ignoring the massive accumulation of evidence and facts to the
contrary, maintains that Tom Metzger is some kind of persecuted martyr who
is being victimized by National Socialists and conservatives and media
acting in weird concert because he is allegedly a "brilliant Aryan leader"
(a contention which in itself is highly open to dispute; when his patchy
career and often rather confused writings and rambling videos are examined
carefully, a good case can be made that Metzger frankly was never all that
effective.)
.>
>        The cult consists of a number of Skinhead-type kids who seem to be
emotionally disturbed, of limited intelligence, from broken homes and
seeking a father figure. (The smarter Skins got Metzger's number long ago
and have kissed him off). There are also a clique of personal enemies of
Winston Smith, Willis Carto and Doctor Edward R. Fields of THE TRUTH AT LAST
who find a pretended belief in Metzger's "innocence" to be a convenient
method of pursuing their personal vendettas against Smith, Carto and Fields.
It needs to be emphasized that no one familiar with the facts genuinely
believes Metzger to be innocent; the evidence is simply too strong and there
is just too much of it. However, the recent tendency towards using a
pretended belief in Metzger's innocence in order to attack the re-emergence
of National Socialism in North America is a very sinister development. We
have had far too much irrationality in our Movement for far too long. We
don't need more of it.
.>
>        Winston Smith, Dr. Edward R. Fields, Dr. William L. Pierce, Pastor
Richard Butler, Pastor Pete Peters, Thom Robb, James Mason, and John
Trochmann have all been the recipients of various threats of death and
mutilation from the Cult of St. Thomas the Martyr because they have
questioned Metzger's version of events. These threats are of a very immature
type and to be completely accurate are mostly probably leveled by youngsters
without Metzger's approval or knowledge; nor are they really to be taken
seriously given the immaturity and general silliness of the kids making the
threats. However, it is significant that Metzger attracts and encourages
this kind of person. It's the thought that counts.        
.>
>        Further information on the Metzger situation can be obtained from
the National Socialist White People's Party, P.O. Box 9444, Chapel Hill,
N.C. 27515-9444 U.S.A. Please enclosed a stamped, self-addressed envelope
with 78 cents in postage.
.>
.>
>                                            #
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>A RECKONING
by John Milton Kleim
.>
.>
>I am certain to be denounced as a "race-traitor" by many of my so-called
>"friends" for these statements.  That's OK; they have a right to their
>opinion, as I and my Winchester have a right to mine.
.>
>It requires more strength to admit defeat, than to fantasize about victory.
.>
>The skinhead culture, as a social unit, is a hideous blot upon the honor
>of the Aryan Race.  While there are isolated individuals of high
>character, rational mind, and personal accomplishment who identify as
>skins, the paradigm (if it can be called that) of the skinhead scene
>represents nothing noble.  Unrestrained inebriation, senseless violence
>with no strategic direction, and infantile "us/them" infighting are the
>endemic traits of the skinhead "movement."
.>
>It is alleged the skinhead culture is a neo-Viking warrior culture,
>prepared and ready for action to achieve the 14 Words.  Yeah, right!
>What has the skinhead culture done to advance Aryan survival?  By bashing
>countless heads of _personal_, not racial, enemies in?  By burning down
>Black churches?  By spray painting Swastikas?  By drunken brawls amongst
>each other?  In their juvenile stupidity, most "brave" skins risk felony
>charges with no demonstrable, favorable results for our People's salvation.
>These persons are not heroes; they are contemptible fools.
.>
>The false image of the skinhead scene is a working-class youth culture of
>proud White folk celebrating their heritage, generated as a rebellion
>against the evils of the present order.  However, I, a 25-year old son of
>a working class family who grew up in the Sacramento area and shared the
>same type disharmonic social environment most skins did, need neither beer
>nor violence nor cultic organizations to almost singlehandedly achieve
>goals on a massive scale, such as I did with the publicity campaign for
>_rec.music.white-power_.  Why am I so different?  Perhaps being from a
>long line of German _bauern_ instilled me with the traditions of _true_
>Aryan culture, not an artificial, cosmopolitan pseudo-Aryan culture.  I am a
>lonely standard-bearer of what Third Reich-era Germans called _Kultur_, as
>opposed to the _Zivilisation_ of the concrete deserts from which the
>skinhead anti-culture arose.  The latter is a hodge-podge of unholistic
>social elements fused together of necessity following the collapse of the
>social structure of the West.
.>
>The Holy Swastika symbolizes the Program of God in the Universe, representa-
>tive of both refined strength and intricate beauty.  How few skins understand
>its significance and sacredness.  It has been made into a profane
>scrawling by those neither comprehending its meaning nor deserving of
>wearing it.  The Aryan who is truly strong has the ability to be gentle
>and compassionate.  The brutal existence of the skinhead culture is
>incompatible with the genuine symbolism of the Swastika.  Most skins
>attempt to emulate the malevolent spawn of Hollywood cinema, _not_ the
>ideals of the SS, whose heroic men embraced balanced responsibility:
>evolved "higher men" of duty, restraint, commitment, and prudence.
.>
>The youth of a People is its tomorrow.  If the skinheads are our tomorrow,
>then our Race has no future.
.>
>I've wasted enough of my life on a lost cause.  Our Race died on May 8th,
>1945, when the last Nation of _Kultur_ surrendered to anti-culture.  The
>pathetic state of our youth today illustrates so well our lasting defeat.  
.>
>I shall now be loyal to myself.  All I wish is one good woman, a family,
>and to be left alone.
.>
>-- Milton John Kleim, Jr.
.>
.>
>An exchange between George Burdi and myself concerning "A Reckoning":
.>
>>I have a lot to say about your comments.  I have been there and looked
>>down the same dark, morbid tunnel.  I actually tried to call you when
>>I first read your statement, to try to talk you out of it.  But each of us
>>must make our own decisions, and if you lack the resolve now, you will
>>most certainly not last when real hardship sets in.
.>
>And what will the skinheads do when the "real hardship" sets in, and the
>beer supply evaporates?
.>
>I have thrown almost all of my resources into this struggle.  30+ hours a
>week since October 1993.  ALL of my spare finances.  I have flushed a
>comfy career opportunity down the shitter.  And you tell me about
>"hardship"?  If we were making gains, then all of my struggle would be
>worth it.  If we could field another Hitler for President, I would fight
>like I've never fought before to elect him.  But that's not going to
>happen, not tomorrow, not next year, not in our lifetimes.  WHAT has
>FIFTY YEARS of struggle, often by greater men than ourselves (Rockwell,
>Mathews, etc.), achieved? 
.>
>>In the name of being a REAL National Socialist, you are abandoning
>>the very principles that you hold dear.  Your life and my life mean
>>nothing ... all that is important is the Folk.  
.>
>What "folk"?  A few tens of thousands of drunken skinheads?  A few dozen
>old profiteers fantasizing about "victory"?  George, WE are not the Aryan
>Race.  We have no revolutionary following.  We have a "following" of losers
>who bitch about ZOG destroying their lives just as Negroes bitch about
>"White Racism" destroying theirs.  They beat each other up, and attack
>fellow Aryans because they're of the "wrong" crew.  You know this to be
>true. 
.>
>>If we live morbid,
>>miserable lives because we were born into the dark ages, then
>>that is just our tough luck.  We are the torch-bearers of a rich
>>genetic heritage that calls us to a duty beyond our own
>>all-too-human existences.
.>
>I'm certainly not pretending that I am escaping the coming apocalypse. 
>When it comes, I will face it as surely as you.  But what the fuck, why
>should I provide entertainment to a few hundred hobbyists who don't
>believe for a second we can win?  IF we have any chance at all, the only
>duty to our genetic heritage I have is being wasted on meaningless
>propaganda.  I should be using my time to raise a family.
.>
>>You and I can wax poetic all we want.  But the bottom line is
>>that you are puking out of a movement that needs men like
>>you.  Instead of having faith in the unseen, unknown progress
>>you are making, you are acting selfishly like a good goy.
.>
>"Acting selfishly"?  You make me laugh.  When the skinheads sober up and
>start spreading the word with the same revolutionary fanaticism I have 
>over two years, well, then I can be criticized.
.>
>Men greater than us surrendered when they knew the battle was over. 
>Admiral/Fuhrer Doenitz and General Field Marshal Keitel surrendered when
>they knew there was no point to continuing.  We should have the courage to
>know that we have no chance of achieving greater goals than the 3R sought,
>with far less resources.  The skinheads are not the Waffen-SS, and NEVER
>will be.
.>
>>Just remember, every time you see a beautiful White girl
>>walking arm-in-arm with a buck black nigger;  every time
>>you watch a Jew on the television whine about the holocaust
>>and lie about Adolf Hitler;  every time another small and
>>unreplacable part of our collective Racial consciousness
>>dies ... you are an accomplice.
.>
>Oh, yes, the "race-traitor" shit.  How about William Pierce, who I helped
>to enrich himself for over a year?  The same William Pierce who sells the
>"movement's" bible to the Jews?  Will you cease printing National Alliance
>propaganda in future issues of Resistance as a protest over his selling
>the COPYRIGHT to the Turner Diaries to the Jew Lyle Stuart?
.>
>Everytime I see a Black with a traitorous blond bitch, I shall remember
>that Nature is exacting her righteous judgment on a Race too weak and
>feeble to defend itself.  A Race whose men cannot rise above inebriation
>and self-gratification, and simply will not follow an example that is not
>"comfortable."
.>
>>The herd have an excuse - they don't know any different.
>>You do.  You know far too much to make such a selfish
>>choice.  You mock the *real* sacrifices made by *real*
>>men and women who suffer a thousand deaths behind
>>ZOG's wires, while you live your comfortable life and
>>pretend to be a White man.
.>
>Oh, yes, George.  "Real" men.  Aryans have always had the courage to face
>reality, and I've been lying to myself for long enough. 
.>
>>The problem today with our society is that no one takes
>>their oaths seriously any longer.  
.>
>I have never taken an oath to a man, an organization, or any other
>artificial body.  My "oath" is to God, and that which is dead, my
>heritage.  Oaths are no longer valid when one party is deceased. And the
>Aryan Race has proven itself no longer a viable entity. 
.>
>>Marriages break-up fast because *quitting* is an option.  Children 
>>are neglected because saying "I don't give a shit"
>>is just a reach for the TV remote away.  
.>
>My wish is for one good woman, a family, and to be left alone. I will
>never betray my wife, my children, or my extended family. 
.>
>I've seen the face of the skinhead "culture." All the failings you rail
>about are endemic to the skinheads.  You tell THEM in the next
>_Resistance_ about this, and then you'll have right to say this to me. 
>You start upholding the REAL values of the Aryan Race in _Resistance_, and
>your enterprise will go down the shitter tomorrow.  You know the whole
>White Power "movement" is an entertainment industry, and if you stop
>providing what the skins and other White Power fans want (i.e. start
>telling them what they ought to hear, not what they want to hear), no one
>will read your 'zine. 
.>
>>Our entire
>>planet is dying because people can get-away with
>>being slobs and bums and losers and *quitters*,
>>and can roll their eyes back and say "I don't
>>give a shit".  Well, some of us do.  Some of
>>us march onward irrespective of the odds,
>>and take our oaths seriously.
.>
>As I said, I have never taken an oath to anyone or anything but God and my
>family's heritage.  God's judgment on His Creation is nearly upon us,
>because WE, not the Jews, not the Negroes, are destroying ourselves, and
>are too WEAK to survive.  There are too few idealists among us.  There are
>too many who have delusions of grandeur and success in meaningless
>accomplishments.  I know all about this; I had these delusions until my
>breakup with Sylvia FORCED me to see reality. 
.>
>>I hold you in profound contempt.
.>
>HA HA HA HA HA HA
.>
>You have a right to your opinion.
.>
>I now journey West to find myself a Woman of Virtue and a quiet life to
>enjoy those things which really mean something. 
.>
>>14 Words Forever,
.>
>And they are certain to be achieved by alcoholism, senseless violence,
>brawling, and selling CDs. 
.>
>-- Milton
.>
>PS: What was that quote from Jack London in the latest _Resistance_? 
>    Something about man's purpose not being to merely exist, but to live?  I
>    guess he's a contemptible "race-traitor" too.
.>
.>
.>
>Misperceptions and Clarifications about "A Reckoning"
.>
.>
>Considering the responses I've received to my statement, there seems to 
>be considerable misunderstanding as to my purpose and intentions in 
>making the statement.
.>
>I am NOT taking a vacation.  I am NOT merely distancing myself from the 
>skinheads.  I am leaving the so-called "movement."  PERMANENTLY.
.>
>The "movement" is an entertainment industry, not a cause.  There are a 
>few -- tragically few -- idealists among those who identify with the 
>"movement," and who sincerely believe in the ideals purportedly being 
>advanced.  However, the vast majority of the ranks of the "movement" 
>derive solely entertainment value from the reams of propaganda and the 
>hours of hate rock spewed forth regularly.
.>
>The "movement" provides amusement to those who cannot find amusement and 
>diversion elsewhere.  Within the "movement" young and old alike can live 
>out delusive fantasies of glory and triumph in the comfort of their 
>homes.  It is a "movement" of _reaction_, not a movement of revolution.
.>
>The "movement" is an industry built upon the backs of working people with 
>bright but unrealistic hopes, mostly young people.  Perversely, it is 
>also built upon the tragedy of dead people like hate rocker Joe Rowan.
.>
>William Pierce, whom I helped to enrich himself for over a year, has 
>sold the rights for the "movement's" bible, _the Turner Diaries_, to a 
>Jew.  The reason is obvious, and I will let the dull reader speculate.  
>Like many present and former National Alliance members, I pretended it 
>was alright, a prudent decision, a necessary compromise of ideals.  But, 
>deep down, it was a fatal blow to my morale.
.>
>Pierce, whose actions I must view as "selling out," will continue to be 
>regarded as a "hero" in the "movement," while those of us who speak the 
>truth will be seen as "disruptors," or "race-traitors."
.>
>The "movement" is a fertile ground for hyperactive egos to take root and 
>blossom.  Certainly my ego blossomed fully during my "movement" career.  
>Great minds burdened with sloth and limited discipline find a home in the 
>"movement."  Reputation and fame are easily obtained by saying outrageous 
>things and engaging in provocative acts, far more easily than were the 
>same minds to endeavor in more "normal" enterprises.  This is a self-in-
>dictment, yes, but it's the truth.
.>
>One of the most ironic situations within the so-called "movement" is the 
>disparity between the Ideal and the reality.  One may peruse the pages of 
>a White Nationalist publication, _Resistance_ for example, and compare 
>what is held up as perfectual, and what actually exists within the ranks 
>of the "movement."  The "movement's" ideal aesthetics reflect little or 
>nothing in common with most of their admirers.  Certainly I am not 
>showing a blond Teutonic chauvinism here, as I've met many very 
>attractive brown-eyed brunette ladies, but the utter ridiculousness of 
>having images of slender, blond Nordic girls and brawny, fair sons of 
>Vikings plastered everywhere throughout the "movement" exemplifies the 
>delusionary mentality of most "movement" adherents, since hardly 10% of 
>those within the "movement" approach those Nordic ideals.  In fact, many 
>White Nationalists could very well be subjects of the Waffen-SS's screed, 
>_Der Untermensch_.  The absurdity, even hypocrisy, of the "movement's" 
>Nordicism is encapsulated in the latest _Resistance's_ article on Jack 
>London, a Nordic who gloried about the "perishing and lordly race of 
>blonds" and ridiculed the "ruck and spawn of dark-pigmented breeds."  
>Perhaps the crude, brutal zeal of so many within the "movement" reveals 
>an inferiority complex, fanaticism being a "compensator" for their 
>perceived "deficiency."
.>
>Also ridiculous is the vast amount of kitsch, and artifacts stripped of
>context seen within the "movement."  The almost universal obsession with
>material culture from the Viking Age and from the Third Reich highlights
>the inability of of the "movement" to generate new cultural
>manifestations.  Certainly, I enjoy cultural material from the zenith of
>White cultural evolution, but it is quite distasteful to view and hear
>cheap imitation.  Almost every piece of visual art is copied from National
>Socialist Germany, or is a syncretic manipulation of Celtic or Gothic
>culture with little or no regard for the context which our ancestors
>respected.  This fact alone, the almost complete inability to create truly
>new cultural material, demonstrates that we are defeated, and the
>"movement" is living in the past, attempting to hang onto an era that is
>gone forever.  It also shows how diminutive my generation really is
>compared to our predecessors whom we can never emulate authentically. 
.>
>The callous attitude of the "movement" towards unfavored persons extends 
>not only to non-Whites, but also to those of our own Race.  This 
>callousness is clearly illustrated in a recent _Resistance_ feature.  
>George Burdi's laughable self-aggrandizement, "logic dictates that such a 
>discussion [of "esoteric racialism"] will only attract individuals with 
>the intelligence to understand and dutifully apply its teachings" is only 
>a prelude to the shocking statement soon to follow.  Burdi writes, "So, 
>with Planet Earth as the ship, we have to drop some people overboard, or 
>we all die.  How do we decide who lives and who dies?  Do we throw over 
>the retarded, the malformed, the crippled, and the maladjusted, or do we 
>round up the brightest, strongest, healthiest, most beautiful men and 
>women and have them take the plunge?  If we really had to decide (and we 
>do) who lives or who dies, who do we keep?  Who do we kill?"
.>
>Just WHO is "malformed" and "most beautiful"?  Perhaps if I were doing 
>the choosing, I'd decide that all who didn't fit my ideal should be 
>eliminated.  Since "obviously" blue eyes and blond hair are "most 
>beautiful," Mr. Burdi would be the first to go.  Of course, I am being 
>grotesquely facetious here.
.>
>"Maladjusted" he says.  What are skinheads but social misfits rebelling 
>against a society that is extremely uncomfortable?  I've never heard of a 
>successful businessman who advocates eradicating his best customers.  
>Nay, we are not talking merely about callousness, but hypocrisy.
.>
>My decision is not a hasty one.  I have held onto the illusion that I 
>was accomplishing something despite the facts which glowed brightly 
>before my eyes for sometime.  Recent personal sorrow of a life-changing 
>magnitude forced me to accept the facts I lied to myself to ignore.  I 
>thank God that in emotional tragedy I have been given great wisdom and 
>long-needed humility.  I ask God that I now be allowed to "serve my Race" 
>in the ONLY way that matters in our era, a way so few of my critics have 
>the character to engage in: raise a happy, healthy family.
.>
>I will offer as further explanation of my position a recent exchange
>between George Burdi and myself.  Mr. Burdi chose to make his response
>public via the Resistance Records Electronic Newsletter, complete with my
>city of last residence.  I now make my response public as well.  It
>follows this message. 
.>
>-- Milton John Kleim, Jr.
>   Roseville, Minnesota
.>
.>
>--
.>
>"The proper function of man is to live, not exist."
.>
>                                        -- Jack London
.>
.>

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>THE GENERAL SECRETARY'S REPLY TO KLEIM'S "A RECKONING"
.>

>Dear Brother:
>>
>>        You will hardly be surprised when I tell you that this is not the
>>first time I have had to deal with sentiments of the kind you expressed in
>>your recent article "The Reckoning" and its attachments. I regret to say
>>that disillusionment such as yours is all too common within the Movement.
>>Would it surprise you to learn that I, too, have observed exactly the same
>>things that you have, that I have felt exactly the same disgust and
revulsion? 
>>
>>        I, too, have long had very serious reservations about Skinheads and
>>the Skinhead scene, although I should add that I find EX-Skinheads who
>>survive their Skin period and have learned something from it to be the most
>>valuable of all recruits. 
>>
>>        I, too have observed the terrible effects that alcohol has on the
>>Movement (hence the banning of alcohol in the NSWPP manual in any Party or
>>racial context, violation of which is an expulsion offense). 
>>
>>        I was aware of the "anti-racist" forward and the $1.00 to Handgun
>>Control arrangement regarding the Establishment publication of THE TURNER
>>DIARIES and it bothered me a lot. I was unaware that Dr. Pierce had actually
>>sold the COPYRIGHT ITSELF to the book; if that's true then I am shocked,
>>stunned, and horrified. 
>>
>>        You think YOU've got it bad, friend? I've been seeing these things
>>for 24 years now. With all due respect, your own experience seems to have
>>been rather mild, not to you, I know, but by comparison. I've seen murder,
>>perversion, betrayal, greed and madness in this so-called "Movement" that
>>would curl your hair.  
>>
>>        I call it "The Great Paradox". THE CAUSE IS SO RIGHT; THE PEOPLE IN
>>IT ARE SO WRONG. There is no more noble, more sacred, more awe-inspiring and
>>glorious cause any man or woman can devote their life to than ensuring the
>>survival of our race, the proudest and most shining of God's creation. And
>>there is no more stunning and horrifying revelation on earth than the
>>realization of the type of person who has been and continues to be attracted
>>to that cause, who sink their fangs into it and hang on like grim death, the
>>bad driving out the good, disgracing us, robbing us blind, feeding their own
>>egos on our people's hopes and dreams and suffering, making public
>humiliating spectacles of us,or what is worse, making us look ridiculous and
>weak and causing our own people to scorn and laugh at us.
>>
>>        THE CAUSE IS SO RIGHT; THE PEOPLE ARE SO WRONG. It is what every one
>>of us learns very quickly when we come through the door. We expect to find
>>Triumph of the Will and instead we find ourselves on the set of a Three
>>Stooges farce.
>>
>>        It has broken the hearts of more good men and women than I care to
>>recall in these 24 years. It has broken my own heart, time and again, burned
>>to ashes every bit of idealism and hope and enthusiasm and faith I ever had.
>>It still does, regularly.
>>
>>       I'm not exaggerating and I'm not being patronizing. About once a week
>>on average I get so sickened and disgusted by the behavior of those who
>>claim to serve our cause that I entertain my own fantasies about chucking it
>>all, running away to find that "one good woman" (surely there must be SOME
>>left, somewhere?) and never having any contact with any of this again. Like
>>you, I want to lash our and scream to all these suppurating pustules, "LEAVE
>>ME ALONE!!!"
>>
>>        I even did it once, long ago. I packed my bags and ran away, left
>>the whole country for what I thought was the Great White Paradise of
>>Rhodesia. In a way I'm very glad I got to see Rhodesia and South Africa
>>before they died, but the running away part didn't work out worth a damn.
>>Just as it won't work out with you, either.
>>
>>        Because you see, my brother, it's too late for you. You KNOW THE
>>TRUTH. You've unplugged yourself from the consumer society and the
>>television and you can never be plugged in again. Not totally, not 100% at
>>any rate. You will never ever be able to look at a news broadcast, read a
>>newspaper or a magazine, overhear a conversation on whatever shit job
>>affirmative action allows you to work, never be able to observe this putrid
>>society in action without filtering what you see and hear and read through
>>the lens of truth. Truth is part of your mind now and you can't unlearn it,
>>anymore than you can stop breathing or stop your own heartbeat. Pandora's
>>box has been opened and you can never, ever return those genies of knowledge
>>and skepticism and truth and lock them up again.
>>
>>        That's the first thing I want to say to you, that someday you'll be
>>back. Fine, I know you don't believe that and you needn't reply with
>>passionate denials. That's okay. I didn't believe it either when my own
>>"dark night of the soul" came. Just remember what I say here.
>>
>>        The second thing I want to say to you is that YOU ARE NOT ALONE. You
>>aren't by any means the only person ever to observe and be revolted by the
>>situation within what passes for the Aryan racial resistance movement. As to
>>why that situation exists, what caused it, what perpetuates it---hoo, boy,
>>there is a subject about which volumes could be written. And should be, and
>>will be someday.
>>
>>        The third thing I want to say to you is something which, yet again,
>>I understand perfectly well that you will not believe, and which I do not
>>expect you to believe---yet. That is that the National Socialist White
>>People's Party is DIFFERENT. It is different because Adolf Hitler was
>>different. It is different because George Lincoln Rockwell was different.
>>Finally, it is different because I am different. Not all White racial
>>nationalist leaders or prominent personalities are corrupt. I am not
>>corrupt, and there are others who are not corrupt. Whether you believe this
>>or not for the moment is immaterial; it is the truth.
>>
>>        We're having a hell of a hard time reviving Commander Rockwell's
>>dream, very largely because of that Great Paradox, because so many in the
>>so-called "Movement" have such a vested interest in seeing National
>>Socialism fail, and because so many like you are so unwilling to trust and
>>to believe and to fight again. But we will not fail. That, my friend, you
>>can take to the bank.
>>
>>        So, what reason can I offer you not to quit? Why should you stay in
>>the fight, at least in some capacity or other? The same reason I always
>>offer. There are others, but to me this is the best:
>>
>>        BECAUSE IT IS RIGHT.
>>
>>        Because being an Aryan means more than a genetic heritage; it
>>carries a spiritual burden as well. Because we alone of all the peoples and
>>cultures of the earth are capable of arriving at moral judgments, of
>>understanding that man can have a higher duty than to himself. We do what we
>>do BECAUSE IT IS RIGHT.
>>
>        No other reason---and I've noticed that if someone does get
involved for
>>some other reason, something selfish or petty or half-baked, then they'll
>>run into trouble. I think that may be part of the secret of the Great
>>Paradox, but I'll resist the temptation to go into a digression which will
>>run this e-mail to the length of WAR AND PEACE.
>>
>>        Of course, it certainly helps if you're long-run optimistic, as I
>>am. I genuinely do believe we'll win in the end, and if you're ever
>>interested I'll tell you why that is. But even if I didn't believe in
>>ultimate victory, I would still keep on fighting. Because I will not
>>dishonor my ancestors and myself with the stain of surrender.
>>
>>        Please understand that unlike George Burdi I am not passing judgment
>>on you. I am hardly in a position to do so, since I have admitted to having
>>the same feelings and on at least one occasion, giving in to them.
>>
>>        But the Spaniards have a saying: "He was a brave man THAT day." Your
>>wounds will heal and someday you will take up the sword again, at least
>>metaphorically. Trust me on this; I have seen the good as well as the bad
>>during this past quarter century, and I know. When that day comes, you know
>>where to find me.
>>
>>
>>For Victory,
>>WINSTON SMITH
>>General Secretary
>>N.S.W.P.P. 
>>        
>>
>>
>>
.>
.>
.>


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Hi, Winston:

      I shipped you a third one.  It's just you that makes my Eudora balk.  I
wonder why?
       By the way, have you ever published anything in your own name?  You
write like an angel, but people really seem to be afraid of you.  I have done
some scouting, and people are wary.  What's up?

(Name withheld)


Dear Racial Comrade:
.>
>        Hoo, boy! That's going to take some explaining. I've already sent
>you a lot of my more controversial material, so you have a good idea of its
>general nature. First I'll give you something a friend of mine once said,
>then what an enemy (I regret to say) once said, and then I'll tell you the
>way I see it.
.>
>        My Movement "mentor", insofar as I have one, was Major William
>Gaedtke, the last head of the REAL (Lindbergh) America First Committee, back
>in the 1970s. I was starting to get a fairly heavy deluge of slander and
>sludge even back then, and one day I complained to him about it. I have
>never forgotten what he told me. I know that this is going to sound vain and
>conceited, like I'm patting myself on the back, Ingrid, but this is what he
>said, as nearly a direct quote as I can render from memory:
.>
>        "They don't trust you because you're too good to be true. This
>Movement is so used to mediocrity that when someone with genuine ability
>appears among us no one knows what to make of him. They can't understand
>why, with all your talent and ability, you're not out there making tons of
>money and wallowing in the fleshpots. That's what they'd be doing themselves
>if they'd been born with your advantages and if they had your talent. They
>assume that anyone with everything you've got on the ball who'd waste
>himself in this damned dead end Movement must either be crazy or be a
>Federal agent of some kind. The idea that you might actually believe in the
>cause and want to devote yourself to your race is incomprehensible to them.
>They're in it because they've been losers all their life, failures at
>everything they've tried, and they can't live without working any other way.
>They resent you; you are what they wish they were. You're an eagle who has
>chosen to nest among carrion crows, and they're going to throw themselves on
>you and try to peck you to death. Get used to it, kid. You're going to have
>to deal with this for the rest of your life." 
.>
>        And Bill Gaedtke was right. I have had to deal with it ever since
>then, and I now accept that I always will. For reasons I have often wondered
>about but have never figured out, God has decided that we can't just do our
>duty like ordinary soldiers, Ingrid. Every one of us who serves the cause of
>our people is presented with a terrible personal bill which we must pay for
>the privilege. The hatred and the sullen suspicion you have encountered are
>part of my tab.
.>
>        That's what a friend told me. We now come to what an enemy once told
>me, a man I deeply and profoundly respect and admire who has become my enemy
>because I have committed the ultimate Movement sin against him. I have
>offended his ego. I have proven him WRONG, and for him as for so many among
>us that is something that can never be forgiven.
.>
>        In the autumn of 1991 I wrote to Dr. William L. Pierce and asked him
>to tell me frankly why I was the only one in the Movement who was fighting
>against the Jewish sodomite cult leader Benny Klassen, why I was unable to
>get any help or support at all from the older established Movement leaders
>and organizations. Dr. Pierce responded with the last civil communication he
>ever addressed to me. Within two years he would be publishing smears against
>me in the NA Bulletin accusing me of being a Federal agent and harboring a
>man who, on two separate occasions, has attempted to murder me, although
>even now I simply cannot believe that he was aware of everything this man
>was (and is)doing in his name.
.>
>        The substance of Dr. Pierce's response viz. Klassen I found
>saddening and shameful; I will not quote it here. But what is germane to
>your query is what he said about me. I quote from RESISTANCE #17 dated
>October 7th, 1991:
.>
>        "Now, as regards our seemingly cool attitude towards you personally,
>Harold [this was before I assumed my present nom de guerre], I think you are
>perfectly aware of why you are not very well regarded in many circles. You
>are not a team player. You take things personally. You BELIEVE too hard and
>too deeply; that means you cannot be trusted to be discreet when discretion
>is called for, not so much in Klassen's case but in the case of, say, Matt
>Koehl [Dr. Pierce then cited other examples of my indiscretions which I
>won't bore you with.] You engage in constant ad hominem attacks. Whether or
>not these people deserve what you say about them is beside the point. It
>LOOKS bad to the supporters for racialists to be squabbling in public like
>fishwives, which is one reason why I have always attempted to quash this
>kind of thing, not just in your case but in [here Dr. Pierce cited several
>other cases. I feel compelled to point out that he has since abandoned his
>own policy of discreet silence where I am concerned, and the National
>Alliance is now the source of some of the most vicious smears and personal
>attacks against me.] 
.>
>        "Harold, the problem is and always has been that, as you yourself
>have pointed out, we are all chasing the same buck...when supporters
>constantly read negative, depressing personal attacks against other
>racialists, when our dirty linen is aired in public, you can almost hear the
>sound of the checkbooks snapping shut. Supporters want either upbeat,
>encouraging news or apocalyptic stuff that will scare them into loosening up
>those checkbooks...you are, pardon the expression, pissing in the well we
>all have to draw water from, when you spread this kind of alarm and
>despondency..."
.>
>        If I may be excused a quote from a Hollywood movie, I think the best
>short response I can make to this criticism comes from the 1994 film CLEAR
>AND PRESENT DANGER. The hero, Harrison Ford, is being taunted by one of the
>villains, appropriately enough a Federal bureaucrat. "You always did see
>things in terms of black and white, Jack," sneers the Feeb.
.>
>        "No!" snaps back Jack Ryan. "RIGHT AND WRONG!"
.>
>        So do I.
.>
>        Finally, my own comment on the matter.
.>
>        Movement people are a strange and fascinating breed; they anger me
>and break my heart but for all that I prefer them to the average consumer
>'droid male and female. Movement people at least have some depth to them.
>Colin Jordan described it best: "Our Movement has a very big heart and a
>very small head." I'm willing to put up with the small head for the sake of
>the big heart, and although I rant and rave about the very bad exceptions,
>the fact is that most of us really do have our hearts in the right place.
.>
>        One of the characteristics of the Movement person is a desperate
>longing for a better world, which translates into an often overwhelming need
>to BELIEVE. Our people urgently want to believe that they are part of an
>overwhelming historical adventure, and of course they are, but not in the
>sense they mean. Their vision of that adventure is essentially incorrect.
>They think they are fish swimming in the tide of history; what they are is
>driftwood being dragged wherever the current takes them. 
.>
>        Being 20th-century Americans with highly atrophied intellects and
>nothing a European would recognize as political consciousness, raised in a
>glad-handing superficial materialistic society that produced P.T. Barnum,
>Amway, and televangelism, they constantly place their trust in PEOPLE rather
>in ideas or in history or in God. The sad truth is that these "leaders" are
>far too often unworthy of their trust and in fact betray that trust
>viciously, cynically, and ruthlessly to serve their own personal profit or
>ego. Precisely why that is has been the subject of much of my written work
>for the past six years. I have already stated what I call The Great Paradox:
>THE CAUSE IS SO RIGHT; THE PEOPLE IN IT ARE SO WRONG.
.>
>        I have assumed a duty station within the Movement which no one else
>had the guts or the honesty to assume. I have taken this task on myself
>because it is clear that if I don't do it, no one else will. I am the
>purveyor of uncomfortable truths, and like all such I am not a popular
>individual. Much of my personal problem comes of course from those who have
>the most pressing, personal, and shameful of motives to discredit and
>silence me, but a lot of it comes from ordinary Movement people who long for
>a Man On A White Horse to descend from the clouds and DO IT ALL FOR THEM, so
>they need incur no risk, so they can watch it all on TV, and above all so
>they will be relieved of the necessity to THINK. Their longing for this Man
>On A White Horse is so intense, so deep, so visceral that they will turn
>like junkyard dogs on anyone who informs them that their Fearless Leader is
>a liar and a thief and in some cases worse. 
.>
>        Facts simply DO NOT MATTER. As far as facts go, I have been right
>every time. The Klassen story is now known to be pretty much as I laid it
>out from 1990 to 1992; public events such as the Fourth Reich Skins debacle
>in L. A., the Tim Hepple fiasco in Great Britain, the Loeb episode, the
>murders of Harry Kelly and Dennis Witherspoon, the Handley/Satterfield
>sodomy convictions in Alabama, the suicide of Steve Martell after being
>buggered by COTC "minister" Jerry Michael Pace, the written confession of
>Chip Myers have vindicated my stand on Old Benny Buttfuck---and to this day
>all these events are completely ignored by the Movement as a whole. 
.>
>        Tom Metzger's obscene "arrangement" with Morris Dees has been the
>subject of worldwide media coverage including a number of news articles,
>wire service stories, triumphant spritzes in various liberal publications
>including Dees' SPLC propaganda, and received top billing on Inside Edition
>and an A & E television special on "hate groups". I have a written statement
>from Metzger himself dated 1991 that mail from his box is being seized and
>confirmation of that from the Fallbrook postmaster. I understand that as of
>about six months ago Metzger himself now admits that the seizure of mail and
>money is taking place; his official excuse (correctly) is that he is under a
>court order and he will go to prison if he does not hand over his mail to
>McElroy. Case closed. And every bit of this overwhelming evidence is simply
>ignored. The Cult of St. Thomas the Martyr thrives within the Movement,
>where I am demonized as Mephistopheles himself appearing in a blast of smoke
>and flame to cast my wicked nets of artifice against the Sainted One, his
>chrome dome wreathed in a halo of racial righteousness. As so often before,
>sometimes I have to make a joke out of it. I have to laugh or else I would
>weep for my dying people in their unconscionable stupidity.
.>
>        I have a history of warning against Will W. Williams going back to
>1989, every bit of it documented out the wazoo. I predicted he would steal
>the NA mailing list; in September 1993 he did so. I predicted he would cause
>chaos in the NA; I have personally been informed of over 100 resignations
>which he precipitated and I was the only one who covered the story when he
>damned near got Pierce busted on a machine gun rap for which two Virginia
>Beach gun dealers actually went to prison. I predicted the Klassen
>connection would turn into an unmitigated disaster for the NA; on May 20th
>Pierce lost the Morris Dees lawsuit, in Bryson City and must now pay $85,000
>damages to the monkoid Mansfield family and an estimated $150,000 in legal
>fees, plus whatever the appeal costs. Once the Fort Bragg GIs are convicted
>in that stupid nigger-shooting down there Dees will probably file another
>lawsuit against the NA due to Williams' involvement with those poor dumb
>kids. I have been proven right about Williams every time and there is still
>more to come, especially if I am correct in believing him to be John Doe #2,
>which is a topic all in itself. My warnings are again being disregarded and
>I am being insulted, abused, smeared, and vilified for uttering them.
.>
>        There is in Movement people a reluctance to live in the real world
>which I have always found frustrating and enraging. It all gets back to the
>Great Paradox: THE CAUSE IS SO RIGHT, THE PEOPLE ARE SO WRONG. People join
>the Movement not to give something to it, but to get something out of it,
>money or ego gratification or a Man on a White Horse to worship. My work
>threatens all of those ignoble motives. 
.>
>        It is always easier to shoot the messenger than to listen to the
>message and act upon it. Shooting the messenger assuages hurt feelings and
>anger, and it relieves people of the need to think, to plan, to make
>critical value judgments, and to change their behavior. Unfortunately, the
>one thing that shooting the messenger does NOT accomplish is to alter the
>bad news or make it disappear. Eventually truth and reality catch up to
>everyone.
.>
>        I wish there were a moral to this story or a happy ending. There
>isn't, I'm afraid. I will keep on shouting out warnings whenever I see
>someone about to step into quicksand. These warnings will be disregarded,
>those I am trying to save will stop to hurl a few rocks in my direction, and
>then they will step headlong into the quicksand and I will once again watch
>while people I genuinely care about and want to help sink slowly out of
>sight to asphyxiate and die in agony, in some cases quite literally. I will
>desperately reach out my hand to try and pull them from the trap, and even
>as they sink and the sands fill their mouth and throat and cover their eyes,
>they will slap that hand aside and call me a Federal spy.
.>
>        In Homeric myth there was a princess of Troy named Cassandra. The
>god Apollo granted her the gift of true prophecy, but the jealous goddess
>Hera added a curse: that Cassandra would always prophecy true, but that no
>one would believe her. When the Greeks brought the Trojan horse before the
>gate Cassandra begged and pleaded with her people not to accept the deadly
>gift. She was ignored. The Trojan horse was brought within the walls and
>Troy perished.
.>
>        I know how she felt.
.>
.>
>                                              Yours for Aryan Victory, always,
>                                              WINSTON SMITH
.>
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From zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org Mon Jul 22 09:01:35 PDT 1996
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As you may be aware, on July 18th, Ingrid Rimland accidentally put her
mailing list in the Bcc field instead of the Cc field, thereby making it
available to all readers. When Ingrid made a similar mistake on March
24th, she apologized. This time, she has chosen to blame her mistake on a
conspiracy. 

In the interest of full disclosure, following is the full text of the
unsolicited email from Cecelia Clancy, Robert Brauns, and Dennis Nix to
all ZGram subscribers. There are 4, with the subject lines below.  The
messages are digested in standard mailbox format, with full headers save
the last Received:.

Curiously (or maybe not), none of the ZGram Repost CaBaL have received any
anti-Nazi messages. They're only spamming themselves.

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Hello Zgram subscribers,

Ingrid, Du habscht widder gegoofed!  Sei bitte eyne bissele mehr sorgsam.
Einige die Leit an deine Liste wollen alle andere nit wissen, das sie bei
dir gesubscribet sind. 

Oh well, hello to all you Revisionists and anti-Revisionists alike who are
subscribed.  Same to you NS'ers to whom Revisionism is only a little side
issue, but who nevertheless subscribed to the Zgram list. 

Just to let you all know, I plan to start a mailing list for discussion
among Revisionists.  I'm just undecided as to just where to set the list
up, whether to make it moderated or not, whether to make subscriptions
open or by approval, etc.  I am decided that the names of the subscribers
should not be publicly available, though.  And should anti-Revisionist be
allowed to post as long as they refrain from ad homonium (sp?) attacks and
excessive promotion of the idea that the Shoah (Holocaust) really happened
basically as the mainline/mainsteam historians say it did?  (I think in
order to prevent such ad homonium attacks and excessive Holocaust
"promotion." the list should be moderated.  But what should the standards
be for accepting or rejecting a post? And what languages other than
English should be used? 

For benefit of any NS'ers who might be in the header, I provide the
following "disclaimer" that I have been for about the past month
been including as a standard insertion in e-mail (just the first
e-mail, not subsequent ones) to a person who is or might be an
NS-er.   

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I converted to Conservative Judaism in November 1991.  This
does not mean that I kiss butt to the Jewish organizations or take
orders or instructions from them.  Nor am I their lackey.  And being
that I was raised totally outside Jewish tradition, my attitudes are
quite different on some things than the attitudes of people in Jewish
organizations like the ADL.  I converted for religious reasons alone,
being that in first grade I decided that I was not Catholic (Mom was
raising me Catholic) and in second grade that I was not Christian.
But I was still a monothesit, so that ruled out converting to Odinism
or other Asatru ancestral faith.  And I did not want to be a Muslim.
I did not want Orthodox Judaism because of how it treats women and
did not want Reform because it throws too much away, so that left
Conservative Judaism.   As far as I know, my ancestry is German and
Irish.  If in the future I learn of other bloodlines, I will amend this
to show that.
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OK.  So there.  Think I should include it as standard for initial
e-mail to Revisionists or maybe-Revisionists too???


Take care yunz all,
Cecelia in Pittsburgh


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This is the last time I will use this list. Since Cecelia so thoughtfully
gave us all each others' addresses, I'm taking this opportunity to share
with you this message:

TO: Ingrid (and Cecelia),

You were first on her list, so I guess you received Cecelia Clancy's blurb
on starting a revisionist discussion group and her conversion to
Conservative Judaism in 1991. Evidently she has your complete Email list!
Now, of course, I have it and everyone on the list has it. What is going
on? How and why did Cecelia get it? Strange!

Just before Cecelia "Hello Zgram subscribers", I received a different
message from a  Donna 
. It also had a lengthy cc list, although evidently not yours. First time I've run across this type of distribution of Email addresses. Think a lot of people are going to be displeased. You have probably violated a lot of people's trust. NS'er or not NS'er, as Cecelia says. I'm public, so it doesn't bother me - except that it appears very strange that Cecelia, who I never heard of before, obtained your list. A friend, who speaks German, was able to translate this Yiddish message to you. Evidently Cecelia is wandering, too, a little belatedly, about giving everyone your subscriber list. Ingrid, Du habscht widder gegoofed! Sei bitte eyne bissele mehr sorgsam. Einige die Leit an deine Liste wollen alle andere nit wissen, das sie bei dir gesubscribet sind. ======================================================================= From: Dennis Nix Editor, "Politically Incorrect" E-Zine (http://www.smartnet.net/~fenix) Manager, "Fenix Mall" commercial site (http://www.smartnet.net/~fbooks) ======================================================================= >From RobBrauns@aol.com Thu Jul 18 17:17:32 1996 From: RobBrauns@aol.com Received: by emout13.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA14447; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 19:13:08 -0400 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 19:13:08 -0400 Message-ID: <960718191307_240752932@emout13.mail.aol.com> To: ezundel@cts.com, irimland@cts.com, [ZGram list deleted] Subject: PLEASE READ - The E-Mail list from today's ZRAM Hello All, I believe that today's ZGRAM E-Mail list was enclosed to irritate regular readers of the ZGRAMs and to pressure the 200 or so readers of the ZGRAMs into having their names removed from the list. Imagine that, all this fuss over the Zundel site for a measily 200+ people. I know that certain people who get the ZGRAMs are there to "monitor" the right wing and would love to have this list. I am enclosing a copy of the HATE MAIL my family received as a result of 50 years of GERMAN BASHING! In case anybody decides to use my E-Mail address for illegal purposes, I would love the world to see what the Holocaust lobby has succeded in going to an innocent German family, BORN AFTER THE WAR. The original HATE MAIL looks much better than my copy because I had to scan into my computer. It is in .BMP (Windows Bit Map file) format. I will send anyone a copy of it upon request. Please forgive me for using of this list, I will remove it from my PC after I send this E-Mail. Eine Meldung zu allen Deutschen: Sie haben keine Ahnung, was wir Deutsche, die außerhalb Deustschland gebornen sind, leiden müssen... Lesen Sie bitte diese E-Mail und das "HASSENBRIEF" und vielleicht wird es klarer... Robert B. >From fenix@smartnet.net Thu Jul 18 20:41:49 1996 Received: from [208.128.68.41] (pm1-12.warrensburg.mo.smartnet.net [208.128.68.41]) by smartsun.smartnet.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA29597; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 22:07:13 -0500 Posted-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 22:07:13 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 22:17:35 -0500 To: dcinotti@inforamp.net (Donna) From: fenix@smartnet.net (Dennis Nix) Cc: [ZGram list deleted] Asked Donna for an explanation earlier today, but no reply. Don't have access to her site either. I'm destroying this list, but would like to know what list this is? Can some one clue me in? ======================================================================= From: Dennis Nix Editor, "Politically Incorrect" E-Zine (http://www.smartnet.net/~fenix) Manager, "Fenix Mall" commercial site (http://www.smartnet.net/~fbooks) ======================================================================= From zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org Mon Jul 22 09:01:36 PDT 1996 Article: 52150 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!op.net!netaxs.com!hunter.premier.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!flesh.fly.net!anon.lcs.mit.edu!mail2news Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 10:54:40 -0700 From: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org (E. Zundel Repost) Newsgroups: alt.fan.ernst-zundel,alt.revisionism,alt.politics.nationalism.white Followup-To: alt.fan.ernst-zundel,alt.revisionism Organization: The Jooooooooooooooooooish Cabal that Censors Everybody (tm) Subject: 960721: Of songbirds and cowbirds X-Original-Subject: ZGram - July 21, 1996 - "Of songbirds and cowbirds Sender: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org Message-ID: <199607217623.ACBA851@infinity.c2.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Plug: Community ConneXion provides privacy on the Internet. http://www.c2.org/ X-Decency: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/b/botting.gary X-ZundeLooMirror: http://www.c2.org/~rich/Not_By_Me_Not_My_Views/rebuttal.html X-Zundel: http://www.nizkor.eye.net/hweb/people/z/zundel-ernst/ X-Ingrid: http://www.webcom.com/~ina/ X-Ingrid-Really: ftp://ftp.eye.net/pub/nizkor/people/r/rimland.ingrid X-Remember: http://www.nizkor.eye.net/ Complaints-To: mix-admin@anon.lcs.mit.edu Lines: 125 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.fan.ernst-zundel:1810 alt.revisionism:52150 alt.politics.nationalism.white:25912 The Zundelgrams are posted to alt.fan.ernst-zundel and alt.revisionism daily, unedited (after BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM....). The opinions expressed do not necessarily represent the views of the poster, who is not the author. See X-Headers for relevant URLs. A good place to start is http://www.nizkor.eye.net/features/ or, if you're in Europe, ftp://nizkor.iam.uni-bonn.de/pub/nizkor/ Ernest Hemingway was born Friday. KASSEL, Germany, July 21, 1816 (Zundel-Repost): Baron von Reuter, known as Israel Beer Josaphat before his conversion, is born. You may have heard of his company. ------------ BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ Good Morning from the Zundelsite: This is a follow-up on yesterday's ZGram where I commented on what I thought was just a graphic allegory of a bird at the mercy of the tactics of a fox- a silly Aryan bird that did not realize that it had lost the knack for recognizing its own survival threats, i.e., the surreptitious harm inflicted on its young. It turns out that this is not fiction at all; it's happening to songbirds. According to an article from the Richmond, Virginia Times-Dispatch, entitled "Songbirds in the Midwest are singing cowbird blues -- Raising orphaned chicks wipes out foster families", ". . . The Midwest has become a disaster area for migrant songbirds and a paradise for a feathered freeloader who tricks other birds into raising its young. Songbirds . . . are being pushed toward population collapse by cowbirds that lay eggs in other birds' nests and force the hosts to feed and nurture cowbird chicks. . . " According to this article, a single cowbird female lays eggs in a dozen songbird nests and then leaves them in the songbirds' care. "These birds don't have an evolutionary history of dealing with cowbirds," a researcher is quoted as saying. "They haven't learned to recognize that a cowbird egg is not their egg and that cowbird young are not their young." So we have parasitic cowbirds. These cowbirds hatch earlier, grow faster and push the baby song bird chicks out of their nest-and most songbirds not any the wiser. Sounds familiar? Here it is getting interesting, though, and proves Charles Darwin right. Some resident birds won't tolerate freeloaders. The Baltimore Oriole, for example, has had it with Affirmative Action. It will puncture a cowbird egg and just throw it out. Robins do likewise. Both robins and orioles are thriving. So what this means is that some songbird species are learning to assert themselves to their own benefit, increasing their survival chances. To me, this is amazing-a lesson that should not be left to the birds. The reader who sent me this article added a few poignant comments: "Here we have beautiful, brightly colored, noble-looking creatures with sweet poetry and music their art; threatened by . . . parasite birds, whose only distinction is that they can sometimes fool the beautiful ones into thinking that there is no difference between them. Here we have parasite young crowding out the legitimate young in the nest . . . Here we have parents spending their precious time and energy feeding and caring for the parasite young. Its parallel is the vast wealth and even lives which are squandered to "uplift" the forever miserable, here or overseas. . . ." He is so right. As I was telling a friend a few days ago, when I came to this country with my husband and two babies, freeloading would have been as alien to my nature as the moon is to the sun. We were just kids ourselves. We had no money, no education, no knowledge of English, no car and no friends. We had packed our work ethics, however. Within three years, we had one of the nicest homes on the block. My babies are now grown. My younger son, who is a higly competent computer engineer, now married to a woman every bit as competent as he, does not think he can afford a second child because he and his wife have made a choice: She will stay home to raise the one they have. Without a second paycheck, they are now struggling at the margins of existence. They'll never have the kind of home we had - on blue collar wages at that. There was a time in the mid-Eighties when I did many august interviews of influential people as part of my journalist work for various publications. That's how I met Joe Califano. As many will remember, Califano was the HEW czar of Lyndon Johnson and, later, Jimmy Carter. As we were spooning our spaghetti, we talked about conspiracies. I was already onto one; and it could make your hair stand up on end. (Since then, I learned of five or six, one even bigger than the other-and nothing will surprise me. But then I was grass green and shocked out of my socks. . . ) I put down my fork, leaned forward and said: "Mr. Califano, now tell me to my face: Can something that bizarre be possible?" There was a pause that seemed to stretch forever. And then the architect who structured our Great Society said in a flat and almost stony voice: "Only if the government wants it that way." Ingrid Thought for the Day: "Morality is the custom of one's country and the current feeling of one's peers. Cannibalism is moral in a cannibal country." (Samuel Butler) ------------ END ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ From zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org Mon Jul 22 14:41:49 PDT 1996 Article: 52258 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!hookup!chi-news.cic.net!newsfeeder.sdsu.edu!newspump.sol.net!news.inc.net!news.us.world.net!ns2.mainstreet.net!news.PBI.net!news.infonex.net!anon.lcs.mit.edu!mail2news Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 13:34:16 -0700 From: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org (E. Zundel Repost) Newsgroups: alt.fan.ernst-zundel,alt.revisionism,alt.conspiracy Followup-To: alt.fan.ernst-zundel,alt.revisionism Organization: The Jooooooooooooooooooish Cabal that Censors Everybody (tm) Subject: 960722: A friend objects to ZOG X-Original-Subject: ZGram - July 22, 1996 - "A friend objects to ZOG Sender: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org Message-ID: <199607227613.ACBA651@infinity.c2.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Plug: Community ConneXion provides privacy on the Internet. http://www.c2.org/ X-Decency: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/b/botting.gary X-ZundeLooMirror: http://www.c2.org/~rich/Not_By_Me_Not_My_Views/rebuttal.html X-Zundel: http://www.nizkor.eye.net/hweb/people/z/zundel-ernst/ X-Ingrid: http://www.webcom.com/~ina/ X-Ingrid-Really: ftp://ftp.eye.net/pub/nizkor/people/r/rimland.ingrid X-Remember: http://www.nizkor.org/ Complaints-To: mix-admin@anon.lcs.mit.edu Lines: 156 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.fan.ernst-zundel:1816 alt.revisionism:52258 alt.conspiracy:69496 The Zundelgrams are posted to alt.fan.ernst-zundel and alt.revisionism daily, unedited (after BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM....). The opinions expressed do not necessarily represent the views of the poster, who is not the author. See X-Headers for relevant URLs. A good place to start is http://www.nizkor.org/features/ or, if you're in Europe, ftp://nizkor.iam.uni-bonn.de/pub/nizkor/ Today is Bob Dole's Birthday! http://www.dole96.org/dole96.html. It's also the birthday of Austrian Nazi leader Arthur Seyss-Inquart. I believe he rates a mention or two in the Nuremberg proceedings, ftp://ftp.nizkor.org/pub/nizkor/imt/ ------------ BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ July 22, 1996 Good Morning from the Zundelsite: I personally am so sick of the entire Holocaust mishmash I wish I could drop it into a hole and seal it for eternity as something that was rationally hideous and ideologically unworthy to have been bought in the first place by an astute, discerning, educated public. The hoax is now in intellectual shambles and will be so revealed as soon as reputable scientists and courageous members of the media are allowed to have their say unhampered by the vicious special interest persecution aimed at life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness of all the current truth tellers. It's over. Finished. Done. Once and for all, it could be settled tomorrow if there could be arranged a reputable, neutral and impartial investigation into the claims and counter-claims of what is called the "Holocaust"-and we could all move on. Although I know it drains a lot of vital mental energy from what is really needed to make this world a cleaner world, I keep on hammering away at it because I feel by speaking of the Holohoax, I use the most efficient means of making people focus on what is still beneath the surface and not as recognizable-which is the real and present danger imposed by alien interests set to destroy our Western civilization and culture and all we have achieved in 3,000 years' worth of history. The formula I use is simple and underlies all of my ZGrams: "If we have been deceived so systematically and cruelly about the so-called Holocaust-what is the REAL agenda of those who use the Holocaust as both a weapon and a shield?" The real agenda, in many people's mind, including mine, is Orwell's "1984" and "Animal Farm." It is the Global Plantation scenario-total control of Western man's mind and Western man's productivity for the sole benefit of the parasitic interests of a very cunning and extremely powerful few. In a ZGram several days ago I used the word ZOG to label this devious elite that keeps on burrowing, deceiving and diverting. I did so, not having a better term with which to label entities who undermine our way of life for their self-serving ends. Well, one of my strongest aficionados really called me on the carpet for that one-telling me that it was cornball stuff. Here is what my good friend said, brought to you now for further thought in somewhat shortened form: ". . . Give it up. It will cost you vital support. The ideas, Ingrid--the raw and life-giving ideas--are what matter! Don't compromise them with goofy labels. Who cares if Van Gogh was an "Impressionist" or not: it's the body of work he produced that matters. You'll be making Zundel's work just another marginalized cause. I respect you, Ingrid, but I think the runner stumbled here. My feeling is you must be under a lot of stress for you to have unnecessarily stuck a feather on a marble statue . . . " I was really surprised by this response, because I had thought nothing of speaking of ZOG. Here in America, the term is instantly recognized and by no means endorsed as valid by only the marginal, low-brow, dissatisfied masses. I know, because I speak a lot at luncheons for Rotary folks and such. I always use that opportunity to sound them out a bit on this and that, including ZOG'ish matters. I asked my friend to clarify where his dislike for the ZOG acronym had come from, and here is what he said in follow-up: ". . . I'll use Ernst's own words to underscore my point. This commentary of his made its appearance in a Power Newsletter when, if memory serves, Ernst was limited as to what he could say . . . only discreet references to "the forbidden topic" pursuant to the gag-order. On one occasion he laid bare his feelings about the Klan. It seems he was put off by the robes and other effeminate paraphernalia. I distinctly remember he described the Klan outfits as "unmanly," and so on. I agreed . . I would have added to "unmanly" such unflattering adjectives as "goofy," "campy," and "corny." I think it's generally agreed by friends and foes alike that David Duke became a serious political contender once he made up his mind to stash his Klan robes and dunce cap away in the closet and don a well-tailored dark-blue businessman's suit. To my mind, "ZOG" is the equivalent of the Klan robes and dunce caps. It's the equivalent to Jessie Jackson's "Hymietown" allusion to New York. It's the same kind of off-putting, thought-stopping, campy clich=E9 that might appeal to the wrong people for the wrong reasons. You don't want the trailer trash from the Sally Jesse Raphael Show jumping on the Zundel bandwagon. You don't want to attract mindless clones and drones with pre-packaged verbiage. Your work is an outreach to our intellectual elites and to those armies of decent grassroots people who intuit the truth and wait for patriots to come and articulate these truth for them. What you want (is) to reach the best people. Kitschy references to "ZOG"-like something from the screenplay from the George Lucas sci-fi classic Star Wars-is going to turn them off . . . My viscera and experience tells me that the use of "ZOG" would help to make our work all the easier to caricature. It would distract seriously from the raw, libertaing, life-giving energy of the truth about WW 2 history. "ZOG" is a downcast cannon aimed at your own two feet. . . " Well. You live and learn. Back to the drawing board. I have no problem doing that-if only there were something better! But by making me shelve a weak and self-defeating weapon, my good friend hands me back my original problem-which is: How to describe The Enemy? How can you fight a war if you are not allowed to call your enemy by name? What IS his name? If not ZOG, does he HAVE a name that fits his tactics better-which is to use our governments against our very interests? And make us pay for our enslavement and ultimate destruction? With our own tax dollars? Ingrid Thought for the Day: "It would indeed be a tragedy if the history of the human race proved to be nothing more than the story of an ape playing with a box of matches on a petrol dump."=0B (David Ormsby Gore) ------------ END ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ From zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org Mon Jul 22 18:36:12 PDT 1996 Article: 52303 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!hookup!lamarck.sura.net!ra.nrl.navy.mil!news.math.psu.edu!news.cse.psu.edu!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!flesh.fly.net!anon.lcs.mit.edu!mail2news Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 16:07:07 -0700 From: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org (E. Zundel Repost) Newsgroups: alt.fan.ernst-zundel,alt.revisionism,alt.conspiracy Subject: ZSpam Digest: NSWPP Fuhrer Continues to EXHORT Zgram subscribers Sender: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org Message-ID: <199607229823.ACB28912@infinity.c2.org> X-Plug: Community ConneXion provides privacy on the Internet. http://www.c2.org/ X-Decency: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/b/botting.gary X-ZundeLooMirror: http://www.c2.org/~rich/Not_By_Me_Not_My_Views/rebuttal.html X-Zundel: http://www.nizkor.eye.net/hweb/people/z/zundel-ernst/ X-Ingrid: http://www.webcom.com/~ina/ X-Ingrid-Really: ftp://ftp.eye.net/pub/nizkor/people/r/rimland.ingrid X-Remember: http://www.nizkor.org/ X-Censorship: http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/t/thompson-linda/ Complaints-To: mix-admin@anon.lcs.mit.edu Organization: mail2news@anon.lcs.mit.edu Lines: 85 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.fan.ernst-zundel:1819 alt.revisionism:52303 alt.conspiracy:69545 As you may be aware, on July 18th, Ingrid Rimland accidentally put her mailing list in the Cc field instead of the Bcc field (yes, I got it backwards before), thereby making it available to all readers. When Ingrid made a similar mistake on March 24th, she apologized. This time, she has chosen to blame her mistake on a conspiracy. In the interest of full disclosure, I am passsing on all the spams that have been confirmed to have hit the ZGram list. Some EMPHASIS may have been ADDED. ------------ >8 CUT HERE 8< ------------ >From nswpp@earthlink.net Mon Jul 22 13:43:24 1996 Received: from LOCALNAME (pool004.Max4.Raleigh.NC.DYNIP.ALTER.NET [153.37.113.4]) by cyprus.it.earthlink.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA07461; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 13:11:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 13:11:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19960722161859.1bcfc7d6@earthlink.net> X-Sender: nswpp@earthlink.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: nswpp@earthlink.net From: NSWPP-CSU Subject: NSNet Bulletin #2 "I slept, and dreamed that life was beauty. I woke, and found that life was duty." Dear Racial COMRADES: Whether you like IT or not, history has imposed a duty on you to engage in resistance to an evil AND dangerous FOE. That profound moral obligation has DEVOLVED upon you by virtue of your being BORN of the Aryan race and into these times. It is inescapable, like your skin COLOR. Unfortunately, UNLIKE your skin color, you have the choice of casting that obligation away. The reason we are in the SITUATION we are in today is that all too many White PEOPLE have made that shameful CHOICE. The National Socialist White PEOPLE'S Party challenges you to take up the burden imposed on you by HISTORY, by your BLOOD, and by God. Resistance can take a thousand different FORMS. How each of you resists, under what banner, is up to you. Obviously, WE prefer you choose to make your stand under the SWASTIKA BANNER of Adolf Hitler and George Lincoln Rockwell, but there are other ways and we certainly have no quarrel with them. REVISIONISM especially is a vitally important way in which a White man or woman can fulfill their obligation to those OF our noble people who have LIVED, to those living, and those yet to come. Any battle for TRUTH inevitably serves THE battle for THE truth of National Socialism. Make no mistake: what is AT stake here is the very existence of our RACE. The demographics ARE horrifying: by the year 2050 Whites will be a minority on the North American continent, but THE point of no return will have been reached long before that as White BIRTHS plummet and the existing White POPULATION grows older and older. We have a natural ally in the AIDS epidemic, which wreaks on the non-White and perverse population the condign punishment for their behavior which we LACK the courage to impose on them. Yet despite the dents being made in the mud and faggot populations the statistics are CLEAR: Whites are being swamped. This is especially true in view of the fact that the governments of the United States and Canada have virtually abandoned any PRETENSE of immigration control. For all practical purposes, the BORDERS of both countries are WIDE open. The Third World is coming to North America; the Camp of the Saints is upon us. For any White man or woman to refuse to fight, to attempt some retreat into their private lives while all around them Hell is coming to earth, is quite frankly disgraceful. You do not have the RIGHT to stand aside. I have a certain amount of time for a few non-White peoples, one of them being the Japanese. THERE is an old samurai saying: "Duty is as heavy as a mountain, while death is lighter than a feather." This has been interpreted as favoring death or hara-kiri or something of the kind, but that's an incorrect reading. The proverb is a call to courage: the brave and honorable man or WOMAN does not take the light, easy road but assumes the mountain-like weight of duty. Take up the burden, MY brothers and sisters, so that others will not have to carry your share. It's the RIGHT thing to do. Yours for Victory, WINSTON SMITH General Secretary N.S.W.P.P. From zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org Mon Jul 22 22:33:32 PDT 1996 Article: 52334 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!op.net!netaxs.com!hunter.premier.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!flesh.fly.net!anon.lcs.mit.edu!mail2news Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 22:54:05 -0700 From: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org (E. Zundel Repost) Newsgroups: alt.fan.ernst-zundel,alt.revisionism Subject: ZSpam Digest: NSWPP [sorta] apologizes for spamming the zgram list Sender: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org Message-ID: <199607217997.ACB28102@infinity.c2.org> X-Plug: Community ConneXion provides privacy on the Internet. http://www.c2.org/ X-Decency: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/b/botting.gary X-ZundeLooMirror: http://www.c2.org/~rich/Not_By_Me_Not_My_Views/rebuttal.html X-Zundel: http://www.nizkor.eye.net/hweb/people/z/zundel-ernst/ X-Ingrid: http://www.webcom.com/~ina/ X-Ingrid-Really: ftp://ftp.eye.net/pub/nizkor/people/r/rimland.ingrid X-Remember: http://www.nizkor.org/ X-Censorship: http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/t/thompson-linda/ Complaints-To: mix-admin@anon.lcs.mit.edu Organization: mail2news@anon.lcs.mit.edu Lines: 90 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.fan.ernst-zundel:1823 alt.revisionism:52334 As you may be aware, on July 18th, Ingrid Rimland accidentally put her mailing list in the Cc field instead of the Bcc field (yes, I got it backwards before), thereby making it available to all readers. When Ingrid made a similar mistake on March 24th, she apologized. This time, she has chosen to blame her mistake on a conspiracy. In the interest of full disclosure, following is a followup to the 15 lengthy spams from the NSWPP troller. Just one message in standard mailbox format, with full headers save the last Received:. Winton Smith is the lead character in Orwell's 1984. Next you know, they'll be alluding to Heine. Curiously (or maybe not), none of the ZGram Repost CaBaL have received any anti-Nazi messages. They're only spamming themselves. ------------ >8 CUT HERE 8< ------------ >From nswpp@earthlink.net Sun Jul 21 22:22:41 1996 Received: from LOCALNAME (pool050.Max4.Raleigh.NC.DYNIP.ALTER.NET [153.37.113.50]) by germany.it.earthlink.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA10387; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 22:04:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 22:04:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19960722011137.208f8538@earthlink.net> X-Sender: nswpp@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: nswpp@earthlink.net From: NSWPP-CSU Subject: NSNet Bulletin #1 Greetings: Some of you are receiving this message through a fortuitous accident, an accident you may be thankful for, because it has brought you into contact with the Movement of Adolf Hitler and George Lincoln Rockwell. We speak aloud what others dare not say, what some dare not even think---that only through the heroic ideal of the Fuhrer Adolf Hitler, the blood sacrifice of the German people during the Second World War, and the program of the Commander can the Aryan race be redeemed and our racial survival assured. I think all of you know that. You may not admit it, even to yourselves---two generations of Judaic mind control and the self-censoring habits of a lifetime are hard to break. But you know, all right. We are a revolutionary movement. At the present time we cannot be revolutionary in deed. There are too few of us, we are too scattered, and the times are not right, although they're getting there. But we are revolutionary in thought, and it is by liberating our minds first from Jewish materialism and from fifty years of lies that our race will take the first step towards freedom. The ideas, the concepts, and the viewpoint you will be getting in these messages are the most radical in today's world. They fly in the face of every established orthodoxy. In some countries one can be arrested, imprisoned, tortured, and murdered for writing or saying or thinking National Socialist thoughts. Make no mistake: this is strong medicine. It is "the hard stuff". And if you can't take it, then bail out. Now. The Party's slogan is the immortal Fourteen Words of David Lane: "WE MUST SECURE THE EXISTENCE OF OUR PEOPLE AND A FUTURE FOR WHITE CHILDREN." But the NSWPP also has another slogan we use internally, our own 14 words which define our mission: "We must change the White man's thinking and help him recover his ancient courage." The operative word there is COURAGE. Let me be frank. If you are too timid, too frightened to even so much as receive an e-mail containing politically incorrect thoughts, then don't waste our time or yours. I don't want anybody on this list who is so busy trembling with fear that you cannot properly pay attention and assimilate the news, the concepts, and the power of the National Socialist idea. What would be the point in that? The purpose of all propaganda is to generate ACTION. Not stupid, self-destructive action like idiotic street walks or public activities than are nothing more than dog and pony shows and head-counting sessions for the enemy. This is not Weimar Germany; our situation is completely different >from what the NSDAP faced during the Kampfzeit. Colin Jordan once said of our Movement that we have a very big heart and a very small head. That has to change. Are you ready to change your thinking and recover your ancient courage? Then welcome, kampfgenossen. If not, a simple e-mail with the word "unsubscribe" will do very nicely. Yours for Aryan Victory, WINSTON SMITH General Secretary NSWPP From zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org Tue Jul 23 18:21:15 PDT 1996 Article: 52560 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!apollo.isisnet.com!eru.mt.luth.se!newsfeed.luth.se!news.luth.se!newsfeed.sunet.se!news01.sunet.se!sunic!02-newsfeed.univie.ac.at!01-newsfeed.univie.ac.at!Austria.EU.net!EU.net!Norway.EU.net!nntp.uio.no!news.cais.net!hunter.premier.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!flesh.fly.net!anon.lcs.mit.edu!mail2news Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 09:58:37 -0700 From: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org (E. Zundel Repost) Newsgroups: alt.fan.ernst-zundel,alt.revisionism,alt.conspiracy Followup-To: alt.fan.ernst-zundel,alt.revisionism Organization: The Jooooooooooooooooooish Cabal that Censors Everybody (tm) Subject: 960723: Putting out brush fires? X-Original-Subject: ZGram - July 23, 1996 - "Putting out brush fires? Sender: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org Message-ID: <199607237613.ACBA821@infinity.c2.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Plug: Community ConneXion provides privacy on the Internet. http://www.c2.org/ X-Decency: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/b/botting.gary X-ZundeLooMirror: http://www.c2.org/~rich/Not_By_Me_Not_My_Views/rebuttal.html X-Zundel: http://www.nizkor.eye.net/hweb/people/z/zundel-ernst/ X-Ingrid: http://www.webcom.com/~ina/ X-Ingrid-Really: ftp://ftp.eye.net/pub/nizkor/people/r/rimland.ingrid X-Remember: http://www.nizkor.org/ Complaints-To: mix-admin@anon.lcs.mit.edu Lines: 123 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.fan.ernst-zundel:1847 alt.revisionism:52560 alt.conspiracy:69831 The Zundelgrams are posted to alt.fan.ernst-zundel and alt.revisionism daily, unedited (after BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM....). The opinions expressed do not necessarily represent the views of the poster, who is not the author. See X-Headers for relevant URLs. A good place to start is http://www.nizkor.org/features/ or, if you're in Europe, ftp://nizkor.iam.uni-bonn.de/pub/nizkor/ One year ago today, Carlo Pietrangeli, director-general of the monuments, museums, and pontifical galleries of the Vatican, died. There was a point to this story, but it has temporarily escaped the chronicler's attention. ------------ BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ July 23, 1996 Good Morning from the Zundelsite: Out of my overflowing "News Folder" I pull the following: * Those of you who speak German, be sure to check the brand new website of the Thulenet. It's http://www.thulenet.com/kurz.htm. I think it's very well done and will be a goldmine for Europe. When I checked it, it had less than 300 visitors, which means it is brand new. If you have constructed a web page, you will appreciate this one for its clean design and factual, professional image. I predict that the Wiesenthalers will flip. * And speaking of the Wiesenthalers, the young Canadian I mentioned before, Marc Lemire, who was driven off Pathway Communications for his politically incorrect views and took his website to another server, FTCNET, reports that he is being stalked by Sol Litman, illustrious Director of the Canadian Simon Wiesenthal Center. In Marc words, ". . . Within a few weeks of being there, Sol Littman wrote letters to local the B.C. media and complained that FTCNET was the largest Internet provider of Hate in Canada. (Vancouver Sun, July 18, 1996) Because of Mr. Littman's (involvement), a local B.C. cable company that the physical FTCNET servers are located in, are under immense pressure to kick FTCNET out of the premises. The poor chap who owned FTCNET is now under immense pressure to kick me off. Even if he complies, he has a good chance of still loosing his Internet Service . . ." ." And, in a follow-up, Marc added: ". . . The FTCNET servers are located in the Local Cable TV station where they have fast specialized lines for the Internet. The cable company (under pressure from Littman) is going to kick FTCnet out of the cable building. Because the owner of FTCnet lives in the "sticks" he will not be able to relocate it anywhere near these (specialized phone lines). Because of this, his whole Internet company is going to go under. . . " The Simon Wiesenthal Center of Tolerance? A telling Orwellian touch. * Mark Weber, Director of the Institute for Historical Review, is scheduled to appear Tuesday evening, July 23, on a nationally broadcast report on efforts by the Simon Wiesenthal Center to ban "hate" from the Internet. A portion of an interview with Weber is set to appear on "The Site," a program broadcast daily at 7:00 p.m and again at 10:00 p.m. (Pacific coast time) on the MSNBC cable television network. During the interview, which was recorded July 12 at the IHR office in southern California, Weber criticized the Wiesenthal Center's censorship campaign as a hypocritical and outrageous assault against free speech and open inquiry. If any form of speech deserves constitutional protection, said Weber, it is the serious work of the Institute for Historical Review. It is wrong, said Weber, for a group such as the Wiesenthal Center, which receives millions of dollars in taxpayer funds, to attempt to suppress free speech. An interview with an official of the Wiesenthal Center will also be aired on the program. The Los Angeles-based Wiesenthal Center, an influential Jewish organization with a narrowly partisan Zionist agenda, has repeatedly attacked the Institute and its work over the years. The Center's well- publicized effort to banish the IHR and revisionist scholarship from the Internet has so far been unsuccessful. The Site, a daily hour-long program devoted to technological innovation, is a production of Ziff-Davis television. The new MSNBC network is a joint venture of Microsoft and NBC. A report documenting the Center's phony concern for "tolerance" and record of irresponsible fear-mongering appears in the July-August 1995 issue of the IHR's Journal of Historical Review. An article documenting the record of lies and deceit of "Nazi hunter" Simon Wiesenthal also appears in this same issue. Interested persons around the world instantly access IHR materials on the Internet Web at: http://www.kaiwan.com/~ihrgreg Contact: Greg Raven (ihrgreg@kaiwan.com) PO Box 10545, Costa Mesa, CA 92627 The whole scenario reminds me of the California fires where wind blows and the sparks fly everywhere. The landscape is dry, and no telling what will happen next. In my opinion, there is no stronger spiritual movement now in the entire world than nationalism in various forms and shapes, and its most distinct common feature is rage at intellectual censorship - and at its source, now clearly with its claws out. Ingrid Thought for the Day: "All censure of a man's self is oblique praise." Samuel Johnson (1709 - 1784) ------------ END ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ From zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org Tue Jul 23 20:24:10 PDT 1996 Article: 52560 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!apollo.isisnet.com!eru.mt.luth.se!newsfeed.luth.se!news.luth.se!newsfeed.sunet.se!news01.sunet.se!sunic!02-newsfeed.univie.ac.at!01-newsfeed.univie.ac.at!Austria.EU.net!EU.net!Norway.EU.net!nntp.uio.no!news.cais.net!hunter.premier.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!flesh.fly.net!anon.lcs.mit.edu!mail2news Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 09:58:37 -0700 From: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org (E. Zundel Repost) Newsgroups: alt.fan.ernst-zundel,alt.revisionism,alt.conspiracy Followup-To: alt.fan.ernst-zundel,alt.revisionism Organization: The Jooooooooooooooooooish Cabal that Censors Everybody (tm) Subject: 960723: Putting out brush fires? X-Original-Subject: ZGram - July 23, 1996 - "Putting out brush fires? Sender: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org Message-ID: <199607237613.ACBA821@infinity.c2.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Plug: Community ConneXion provides privacy on the Internet. http://www.c2.org/ X-Decency: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/b/botting.gary X-ZundeLooMirror: http://www.c2.org/~rich/Not_By_Me_Not_My_Views/rebuttal.html X-Zundel: http://www.nizkor.eye.net/hweb/people/z/zundel-ernst/ X-Ingrid: http://www.webcom.com/~ina/ X-Ingrid-Really: ftp://ftp.eye.net/pub/nizkor/people/r/rimland.ingrid X-Remember: http://www.nizkor.org/ Complaints-To: mix-admin@anon.lcs.mit.edu Lines: 123 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.fan.ernst-zundel:1847 alt.revisionism:52560 alt.conspiracy:69831 The Zundelgrams are posted to alt.fan.ernst-zundel and alt.revisionism daily, unedited (after BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM....). The opinions expressed do not necessarily represent the views of the poster, who is not the author. See X-Headers for relevant URLs. A good place to start is http://www.nizkor.org/features/ or, if you're in Europe, ftp://nizkor.iam.uni-bonn.de/pub/nizkor/ One year ago today, Carlo Pietrangeli, director-general of the monuments, museums, and pontifical galleries of the Vatican, died. There was a point to this story, but it has temporarily escaped the chronicler's attention. ------------ BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ July 23, 1996 Good Morning from the Zundelsite: Out of my overflowing "News Folder" I pull the following: * Those of you who speak German, be sure to check the brand new website of the Thulenet. It's http://www.thulenet.com/kurz.htm. I think it's very well done and will be a goldmine for Europe. When I checked it, it had less than 300 visitors, which means it is brand new. If you have constructed a web page, you will appreciate this one for its clean design and factual, professional image. I predict that the Wiesenthalers will flip. * And speaking of the Wiesenthalers, the young Canadian I mentioned before, Marc Lemire, who was driven off Pathway Communications for his politically incorrect views and took his website to another server, FTCNET, reports that he is being stalked by Sol Litman, illustrious Director of the Canadian Simon Wiesenthal Center. In Marc words, ". . . Within a few weeks of being there, Sol Littman wrote letters to local the B.C. media and complained that FTCNET was the largest Internet provider of Hate in Canada. (Vancouver Sun, July 18, 1996) Because of Mr. Littman's (involvement), a local B.C. cable company that the physical FTCNET servers are located in, are under immense pressure to kick FTCNET out of the premises. The poor chap who owned FTCNET is now under immense pressure to kick me off. Even if he complies, he has a good chance of still loosing his Internet Service . . ." ." And, in a follow-up, Marc added: ". . . The FTCNET servers are located in the Local Cable TV station where they have fast specialized lines for the Internet. The cable company (under pressure from Littman) is going to kick FTCnet out of the cable building. Because the owner of FTCnet lives in the "sticks" he will not be able to relocate it anywhere near these (specialized phone lines). Because of this, his whole Internet company is going to go under. . . " The Simon Wiesenthal Center of Tolerance? A telling Orwellian touch. * Mark Weber, Director of the Institute for Historical Review, is scheduled to appear Tuesday evening, July 23, on a nationally broadcast report on efforts by the Simon Wiesenthal Center to ban "hate" from the Internet. A portion of an interview with Weber is set to appear on "The Site," a program broadcast daily at 7:00 p.m and again at 10:00 p.m. (Pacific coast time) on the MSNBC cable television network. During the interview, which was recorded July 12 at the IHR office in southern California, Weber criticized the Wiesenthal Center's censorship campaign as a hypocritical and outrageous assault against free speech and open inquiry. If any form of speech deserves constitutional protection, said Weber, it is the serious work of the Institute for Historical Review. It is wrong, said Weber, for a group such as the Wiesenthal Center, which receives millions of dollars in taxpayer funds, to attempt to suppress free speech. An interview with an official of the Wiesenthal Center will also be aired on the program. The Los Angeles-based Wiesenthal Center, an influential Jewish organization with a narrowly partisan Zionist agenda, has repeatedly attacked the Institute and its work over the years. The Center's well- publicized effort to banish the IHR and revisionist scholarship from the Internet has so far been unsuccessful. The Site, a daily hour-long program devoted to technological innovation, is a production of Ziff-Davis television. The new MSNBC network is a joint venture of Microsoft and NBC. A report documenting the Center's phony concern for "tolerance" and record of irresponsible fear-mongering appears in the July-August 1995 issue of the IHR's Journal of Historical Review. An article documenting the record of lies and deceit of "Nazi hunter" Simon Wiesenthal also appears in this same issue. Interested persons around the world instantly access IHR materials on the Internet Web at: http://www.kaiwan.com/~ihrgreg Contact: Greg Raven (ihrgreg@kaiwan.com) PO Box 10545, Costa Mesa, CA 92627 The whole scenario reminds me of the California fires where wind blows and the sparks fly everywhere. The landscape is dry, and no telling what will happen next. In my opinion, there is no stronger spiritual movement now in the entire world than nationalism in various forms and shapes, and its most distinct common feature is rage at intellectual censorship - and at its source, now clearly with its claws out. Ingrid Thought for the Day: "All censure of a man's self is oblique praise." Samuel Johnson (1709 - 1784) ------------ END ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ From zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org Wed Jul 24 21:56:00 PDT 1996 Article: 52964 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.emf.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.zeitgeist.net!news.c2.org!anon.lcs.mit.edu!mail2news Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 12:47:45 -0700 From: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org (E. Zundel Repost) Organization: The Jooooooooooooooooooish Cabal that Censors Everybody (tm) Newsgroups: alt.fan.ernst-zundel,alt.revisionism,alt.conspiracy,alt.politics.white-power Followup-To: alt.fan.ernst-zundel,alt.revisionism Subject: 960724: Do you shoot a mosquito with a cannon? X-Original-Subject: ZGram - July 24, 1996 - "Do you shoot a mosquito with a cannon?" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org Message-ID: <199607247203.ABA1968@infinity.c2.org> X-Plug: Community ConneXion provides privacy on the Internet. http://www.c2.org/ X-Decency: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/b/botting.gary X-ZundeLooMirror: http://www.c2.org/~rich/Not_By_Me_Not_My_Views/rebuttal.html X-Zundel: http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/z/zundel-ernst/ X-Ingrid: http://www.webcom.com/~ina/ X-Ingrid-Really: ftp://ftp.eye.net/pub/nizkor/people/r/rimland.ingrid X-Remember: http://www.nizkor.org/ X-Censorship: http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/t/thompson-linda/ Complaints-To: mix-admin@anon.lcs.mit.edu Lines: 175 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.fan.ernst-zundel:1907 alt.revisionism:52964 alt.conspiracy:70304 alt.politics.white-power:37037 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- The Zundelgrams are posted to alt.fan.ernst-zundel and alt.revisionism daily, unedited (after BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM....). The opinions expressed do not necessarily represent the views of the poster, who is not the author. See X-Headers for relevant URLs. A good place to start is http://www.nizkor.org/features/ or, if you're in Europe, ftp://nizkor.iam.uni-bonn.de/pub/nizkor/ Sorry for the delay this morning. There was a little confusion about whose turn it was. In today's Zundelgram, we hear from leading White Power Ranger "Murungu," aka Joseph Bishop, ftp://ftp.nizkor.org/pub/nizkor/people/nyms/murungu, murungu@prodigy.com, murungu@interserv.com, PGP 0x568C0B5D (and possibly 0x9FB59535, but that could be a spoof). Like Don Black, Murungu is respected on the avowedly neo-Nazi Stormfront list because he has "actually put his life on the line for white people," which probably means that like Don Black, he has spent some time in prison. Anyone know this guy? The July 24th Zundelgram, "Do you shoot a mosquito with a cannon?", follows. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMfZ8VrhzG45jnxWVAQEDkgQAnGbX2aBHPPnNfyIxspyWjrNQGcXVZkQP MaYqgrh2EpKAU+F5drruGxboNSx6zWb6L8sf5UfSMil56H6XXgvbTRyO2PuNsh3R 77mx34yXVNlHM/oJTAvSC/Fs6UA4kdoBOFyZXKDpmwIATNjhSiKk/3KJLxWrrCwY 5Bl/Z9tF2CM= =cgNJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------ BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ July 24, 1996 Good Morning from the Zundelsite: A netizen who calls himself "Murungu" scolded me a bit last night for Revisionist over-optimism. He thinks that we are largely feeding our nepotism, announcing to each other our paltry glories while missing the much larger picture-which is that, nowadays, suppression and indoctrination are more menacing, massive and vicious than ever, and that it ill behooves us to claim glories where really none exist. I beg to differ. I think that, out there, it is Panicsville. I see a shifting of enemy tactics from heckling and baiting, which used to do fine in the past, to serious censorship sorties. It isn't all that long ago where personal character assassination and individual demonization sufficed. For decades, that is how Ernst Z=FCndel was forced to exist - largely due to court-imposed gag orders issued to calm the tantrums of the Forever Persecuted. While media smears were massive, it was almost impossible for him to struggle up from under and keep his message genuine. No more. Thanks to the Zundelsite, his public persona has radically changed. Thanks to the Zundelsite, it is the rare reporter now who will approach Ernst Z=FCndel with a sneer. World-wide, his opinion is given respect. The Canadian media is slower to change, but it is changing, too-in no small measure due to upcoming libel suits which are long overdue. Amazing what the Internet can do! When, less than a year ago, the Zundelsite was starting to shoot ideological dynamite, Zundel-style, into the global cyberspace, taunts, twits and childish references to UFOs were still the rage. Those days are almost gone. (The Nizkorites still need to catch the drift . . . ) Ernst's website has now become the most-watched, most-feared website targeted for electronic crackdown. And it is not just us, of course. (I know, I know, my grammar . . . ) It is, according to a Simon Wiesenthal Center of Tolerance (sic) count, more than a hundred websites, all posing question marks and raising doubt about the so-called "Holocaust". A bushel-full of question marks - and more and more to come! Now you get items like the ones below slipped to you with your orange juice for breakfast: * ". . . German officials are calling for the United Nations to help create international standards for acceptable content on the Web, a plea that comes just as Hamburg prosecutors accuse America Online's German service of being used for transmitting child pornography through email. Claudia Nolte, German's minister for family affairs, appeared Tuesday before the United Nations to discuss how the international body could play a role in developing standards to protect women and children from violence and sexual exploitation online. Nolte said that international standards will be necessary to prevent pornographers and neo-Nazis from operating outside national jurisdictions . . ." You see how "Neo-Nazis" are once again slipped in with the old bugaboo, pornography? Transparent is the word. Or ponder the symbolic, surreptitious genuflecting indulged in by the World's Most Fearless Leader, as seen in sunny gestures such as the one below: "Clinton Gives $6 Million to Prevent Fires." In an effort to continue the attack against "racism and religious bigotry," President Clinton designated $6 million yesterday (7/2/96) to fight church arsons and pledged more money and manpower "to make sure the struggle is won." Clinton said the money will come from an emergency transfer of funds from the Justice Department and will allow police to "patrol the back roads, to visit the churches, to keep watch for signs of trouble," install flood lights, hire security guards and pay overtime to police. He also announced a bill, which was approved by Congress last week, that would double the maximum prison sentence for church attacks to twenty years and designated July a "national month of unity" for religious leaders to stress healing and tolerance. In Chicago he said "We need to change the atmosphere in the country. We dare not allow this to continue without every American of conscience -- without regard to their race, their religion or their political party -- speaking up against it." When he returned to Washington he said "This is a struggle against racism and religious bigotry. We will escalate that struggle as necessary with enough people-power and willpower to make sure the struggle is won." * Or this one, where America, just oozing at the very seams with resentment, even malice, at influential special interest lobbies and how their drawing power rides on taxes, is asked to underwrite the following: "Spielberg Gets Federal Grant For New Documentary." The US government gave Steven Spielberg a $1 million grant today (7/23/96) to make a documentary about the "holocaust." Spielberg said this grant will now allow him to approach the governments of Germany, Austria and other countries so he can "create a living history of the holocaust through interviews with more than 50,000 survivors." Spielberg said "This single gift will open the floodgates to get all the funding necessary to complete this project." He also said photographs and other material will be preserved electronically and information will be available for museums and schools "to teach teachers to teach tolerance." Two Jewish senators pushed for the federal funding -- Arlen Spector and Barbara Boxer. Spector said he pushed for the funding because too many people discount the "holocaust" as a hoax. He said the grant will lend credibility to the "plight of Jews during World War II." Somewhere I read that the Simon Wiesenthal Center now spends 80% of its damage control efforts to stop the spread of doubt about the Holocaust on the Internet. Why would they bother doing that - unless Revisionism is a threat? There is no question whatsoever that Revisionism has become a very serious threat to very entrenched interests. It's very simple, really: You don't shoot a mosquito with a cannon. You move your cannons in where kingdoms are at stake. Ingrid Thought for the Day: "Politicians are the same all over. They promise to build a bridge even where there is no river." Nikita Khrushchev. ------------ END ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ From zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org Fri Jul 26 05:08:58 PDT 1996 Article: 53277 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!nntp.teleport.com!news.serv.net!news.ac.net!news.cais.net!nntp.primenet.com!news.texas.net!cdc2.cdc.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!flesh.fly.net!anon.lcs.mit.edu!mail2news Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 15:32:39 -0700 From: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org (E. Zundel Repost) Organization: The Jooooooooooooooooooish Cabal that Censors Everybody (tm) Newsgroups: alt.fan.ernst-zundel,alt.revisionism,alt.conspiracy,alt.politics.white-power Followup-To: alt.fan.ernst-zundel,alt.revisionism Subject: 960725: What? The United States Army Imperiled by Leuchter? X-Original-Subject: ZGram - July 25, 1996 - "What? The United States Army Imperiled by Leuchter?" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org Message-ID: <199607258203.ABA3968@infinity.c2.org> X-Plug: Community ConneXion provides privacy on the Internet. http://www.c2.org/ X-Decency: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/b/botting.gary X-ZundeLooMirror: http://www.c2.org/~rich/Not_By_Me_Not_My_Views/rebuttal.html X-Zundel: http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/z/zundel-ernst/ X-Ingrid: http://www.webcom.com/~ina/ X-Ingrid-Really: ftp://ftp.eye.net/pub/nizkor/people/r/rimland.ingrid X-Remember: http://www.nizkor.org/ X-Censorship: http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/t/thompson-linda/ X-DEOMI: http://www.pafb.af.mil/deomi/DEOMI.htm X-Leutcher: http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/l/leuchter-fred/ Complaints-To: mix-admin@anon.lcs.mit.edu Lines: 123 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.fan.ernst-zundel:1955 alt.revisionism:53277 alt.conspiracy:70680 alt.politics.white-power:37131 The Zundelgrams are posted to alt.fan.ernst-zundel and alt.revisionism daily, unedited (after BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM....). The opinions expressed do not necessarily represent the views of the poster, who is not the author. See X-Headers for relevant URLs. A good place to start is http://www.nizkor.org/features/ or, if you're in Europe, ftp://nizkor.iam.uni-bonn.de/pub/nizkor/ In today's Zundelgram, we discuss the esteemed engineer, er, fraud, Fred Leutcher, http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/l/leuchter-fred/, and the Air Force's Defense Equal Opportunity Management Institute, http://www.pafb.af.mil/deomi/DEOMI.htm Don't tell anybody, but they have a report specifically about the IHR at http://www.pafb.af.mil/deomi/ihr.htm The July 25th Zundelgram, "What? The United States Army [sic] Imperiled by Leuchter?" follows. ------------ BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ July 25, 1996 Good Morning from the Zundelsite: This one is absolutely delicious! Remember how I told "Murungu" only yesterday that Revisionism was making great strides, as judged by enemy retaliation tactics? Well, I have further proof. For those not yet familiar with some of the basics of Revisionism, it helps to understand that THE most critical document that has come out of the movement-bar none!-is called the Leuchter Report. The Leuchter Report came out of a highly dramatic secret expedition in the middle of the Second Great Holocaust Trial in 1988 in Toronto where the Holocaust Lobby, working through the government while helping themselves to tax payer money, had put Ernst on trial for "spreading false news." Forced to defend himself, Ernst scratched together his last pennies and sent America's # 1 specialist in execution equipment, Fred Leuchter, to Auschwitz to examine the alleged mass killing facilities there and determine scientifically if they could have been used for genocidal gassings on an industrial scale. This is important to remember: Ernst Zündel was the first man EVER in almost fifty years who said: "It's well and good to CLAIM the Holocaust occurred. But where is the scientific evidence? Let's check the alleged murder weapon, the "gas chamber", once and for all. Let's see if there's a smoking gun." The outcome was the first forensic report EVER undertaken in the history of the so-called Holocaust. Fred Leuchter stated that the Holocaust, as sold to the gullible public, was a scientific absurdity. Since then, there have been three more such reports, essentially confirming what Leuchter found eight years ago. Ever since, the Holocaust Hucksters have struggled mightily to keep the Leuchter Report away from a distrustful public getting ever more skittish about unsubstantiated Holocaust claims. In vain. Overnight, it took on a life of its own. It has been translated into 12 languages and sold in 18 countries. By now, it must have sold in the million, and if Ernst had seen fit to enforce the copyright - which he did not, for Truth to Ernst is gold while money is merely paper - he would be a very rich man. I guess Ernst's enemies have now decided that since there is no way on earth to keep the Leuchter Report under wraps-the cat is now out of the bag!-they might as well confront its findings. Here is how that was done, as reported from the merry headquarters of the Institute for Historical Review, the hub for Revisionist scholarship: ". . . Who says Holocaust revisionism isn't making progress? Today we received in the mail a photocopy of a 20-page pamphlet entitled, "Holocaust Revisionism," put out by the Defense Equal Opportunity Management Institute, apparently part of the Department of Defense, dated June 1996. This pamphlet appears to have been written either in whole or in part by Captain Carlos C. Huerta, an orthodox Jewish chaplain. The errors (lies?) contained in this pamphlet would require an article- length piece to correct, but it is interesting to note that the stated reason why the DoD should be interested in teaching soldiers about Holocaust revisionism is because, 'A successful fighting force is a cohesive one, one where all members have respect for each other's diversity and dignity. Holocaust revisionism has the potential to destroy that respect.' If you wonder how an organization as small as the IHR has the potential to destroy the fighting effectiveness of today's armed forces, the pamphlet tells us that it is because the IHR has a 'major source of revenue' in the form of the pamphlet 'Inside the Auschwitz Gas Chambers,' by Fred Leuchter . . . The DoD pamphlet's author claims that "one in five Americans believe it is possible that the Holocaust may not have happened," and (apparently because of these large numbers) despairs of the difficulty in demonstrating the necessity of teaching about Holocaust revisionism to "someone not knowledgeable in the scope, volume, and effect of Holocaust revisionism today. . . " Re-read that again. ". . . one in five". ". . . the scope, volume and effect of Holocaust revisionism today." Have sweeter words been spoken lately? Imagine the Department of the Defense of the United States of America having to be warned rabbinically to watch out for Fred Leuchter? Those wishing to obtain a copy of this pamphlet are directed to the US Government Printing Office, document 1996 - 733-007/44407. Ingrid Thought for the Day: "Never answer a critic, unless he's right." (Bernard Baruch) ------------ END ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ From zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org Sat Jul 27 11:59:19 PDT 1996 Article: 53525 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!news1.wtn.mci.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!flesh.fly.net!anon.lcs.mit.edu!mail2news Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 12:18:52 -0700 From: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org (E. Zundel Repost) Cc: mail2news@myriad.alias.net Newsgroups: alt.fan.ernst-zundel,alt.revisionism,alt.conspiracy,alt.politics.white-power Followup-To: alt.fan.ernst-zundel,alt.revisionism Organization: The Jooooooooooooooooooish Cabal that Censors Everybody (tm) Subject: 960726: SWC an Ostrich? X-Original-Subject: ZGram - July 26, 1996 "SWC an Ostrich? Sender: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org Message-ID: <199607267623.AABA841@infinity.c2.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Plug: Community ConneXion provides privacy on the Internet. http://www.c2.org/ X-Decency: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/b/botting.gary X-ZundeLooMirror: http://www.c2.org/~rich/Not_By_Me_Not_My_Views/rebuttal.html X-Zundel: http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/z/zundel-ernst/ X-Ingrid: http://www.webcom.com/~ina/ X-Ingrid-Really: ftp://ftp.eye.net/pub/nizkor/people/r/rimland.ingrid X-Remember: http://www.nizkor.org/ Complaints-To: mix-admin@anon.lcs.mit.edu Lines: 184 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.fan.ernst-zundel:1983 alt.revisionism:53525 alt.conspiracy:70961 alt.politics.white-power:37230 The Zundelgrams are posted to alt.fan.ernst-zundel and alt.revisionism daily, unedited (after BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM....). The opinions expressed do not necessarily represent the views of the poster, who is not the author. See X-Headers for relevant URLs. A good place to start is http://www.nizkor.org/features/ or, if you're in Europe, ftp://nizkor.iam.uni-bonn.de/pub/nizkor/ Join the fan club: http://techweb.cmp.com:80/net/magazine/current/newscam/newscam1.htm And now, to demonstrate the truth of Ken's words, the daily Zundelgram: ------------ BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ July 26, 1996 Good Morning from the Zundelsite: A friend called and said she had read somewhere that the Simon Wiesenthal Center has now identified 250 website to be characterized and targeted as "hate pages." Of course we call them Truth in History Pages - at least the ones who make an honest effort to focus on the Truth, as it behooves our kind. It's news like that that makes me think that ". . . Truth is putting on its shoes." Big Time. If growth is exponential - and all indications are that it is - then one of my favorite jingles applies: "Shake and shake the catsup bottle, none will come, and then a lot'll. Especially the German sites are interesting. I don't know where they are located - what with the horrid censorship in that poor, demonized, confused, beleaguered country - but here are two I'd like for those of you who speak German to check out and give me some feedback if I should bookmark and recommend them in future communiques. http://www.thulenet.com/ http://www.c2.net/~bs-org/ Also, the Nation of Europe page, http://www.demon.co.uk/natofeur/is one to watch and weigh. I may have recommended it before. And even pages one might characterize as "enemy pages" can be extremely useful, especially for ideologically besieged and terrorized countries such as Germany. Take the "Rechtsextreme Bibliothek" page, for example. http://sunserver1.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de/~schatzs/bib.html It's a little bit like listening to BBC if you were in German-controlled Europe during World War II. You find out very quickly what your opposition is up to, who has been targeted, and why. I also noticed that quite a few of these new pages are linking to us - not via homepage but on special pages such as Language Table of Contents, for example. I think that is an excellent idea. We ought to do that, too. Imagine developing a habit where every morning, with your cup of coffee, you check your favorite 3 or 4 newspages to get updated reports from the front. You don't have to wade through five layers of links to get to the meat of the matter. Which gives me an idea. I should start marketing my ZGrams that way - which I will promptly do. (And, by the way, I have now finally caved in, abandoned my beloved Adobe program and, with the help of a good friend, am now converting ALL my ZGrams into HTML format.) To come back to a previous point - that is, the efforts of the Simon Wiesenthal Center with their own Jewish slant to get opposing views shot out of cyberspace - I bring you now the following. It comes from the opposing camp - someone who used to fancy himself in league with the SWC Center of Tolerance (sic). It is Ken McVay, Director of the Nizkor Project, addressing himself to Sol Litman's attempt to get Marc Lemire's Freedom Site shut down: ". . . The July 19 article in the Vancouver Sun, 'B.C. Internet provider is the largest Canadian site for racist material' is alarming. It is not the material found on the websites mentioned, nor the fact that the host server is Canadian -- nor indeed that the server is physically located in BC -- which give cause for alarm. It is alarming because -- either by deliberate design or by abject ignorance -- Sol Littman (and the Simon Wiesenthal Center [SWC] whom he represents in Canada) is fostering and promoting the spread of the "Ostrich Syndrome." Their actions represent a counter-productive denial of reality -- akin to the Ostrich burying its head in the sand. Littman is quoted as saying: 'We found the longer you leave these groups unexposed, the longer they fester and the more they infect others and the only way to deal with them honestly and forcefully is to expose them to the light of truth.' Yet the article concludes, 'Littman said he wants to see if Klatt will remove the groups from Fairview voluntarily before the centre takes any other action.' The only truth that seems to emerge from such a veiled threat is that Littman has no understanding of the Internet. One is at a loss to determine how removal of the 'groups' from one Internet Provider's server would in any way 'expose them to the light of truth.' If Littman had any knowledge of the Internet, he would know that the Nizkor Project [http://www.nizkor.org/] is an award winning website that is accessed daily by hundreds. In addition to being a source for those who seek information about the facts of the Holocaust, it is used as an electronic resource for those who wish to 'deal with [these groups] honestly and forcefully' thereby exposing Lemire and many others -- of whom Littman may not even be aware. Nizkor is arguably the 'host' to more hate literature than any other website. Since we also include a link to the Zundelsite amongst others, will Littman next be targetting Nizkor and demanding that we remove such links? Or that we hide from public view the mountains of archived material which meticulously documents and uses the 'arguments' put forward by these groups as instruments of their refutation and exposure? If Littman and the SWC prefer to bury their heads in the sand while engaging in this futile exercise in darkness, let them do so. But the martyrdom they hand on a platter to Lemire and others whom they find offensive stands in marked contrast to their failure to use the Internet on their own website. Conspicuously absent on the SWC website are links to the increasingly growing number of useful resources for those who truly do wish to participate in the battle to expose racist and anti-semitic groups on the Internet. The Ostrich syndrome is far more dangerous to society than any white supremacist group on the Internet. Such groups will fester in darkness, but wither in light. . . " So much for Ken McVay. Nizkor, if you will please remember, is one I call a Poodle Site. They yelp and yap and snap a lot, mostly at their opponent's ankles. Now notice what is going on here: At least one of the Nizkor folks is turning its teeth on its intellectual "Masters" - the Godfathers of Holocaust Promotion. And he is right on one count: They store a lot of hate literature - against the German people. More and more people see that now because they can compare the Nizkor website with the Zundelsite, contrasting both content and style. This is another indication of how the Opposition Front is crumbling. From the very start, the Simon Wiesenthal Center has taken a studied distance >from Nizkor - and no wonder! - for while they let them do the barking, the SWC and Nizkor just do not operate in the same league - or, for that matter, out of the same ideological kitty. I have watched Ken McVay for quite some time. I think he is an honest chap, compared to one or two I wouldn't classify that way. I believe that Ken McVay is one of those who, filled with amazing zeal right now to do us in, belongs in our camp. (I bet he'll shudder at the thought, and so will some of my compatriots . . . . ) Here's what I say - you mark my word: People like McVay cannot be duped forever. We've all been there. I well remember my time - when I believed that there was penance to be done. I woke up, and I believe McVay is waking up. I think that his letter to Litman is telling. Ingrid Thought for the Day: "When the flag is unfurled, all reason is in the trumpet." (Ulraininan Proverb) ------------ END ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ From zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org Sat Jul 27 12:41:33 PDT 1996 Article: 37131 of alt.politics.white-power Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!nntp.teleport.com!news.serv.net!news.ac.net!news.cais.net!nntp.primenet.com!news.texas.net!cdc2.cdc.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!flesh.fly.net!anon.lcs.mit.edu!mail2news Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 15:32:39 -0700 From: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org (E. Zundel Repost) Organization: The Jooooooooooooooooooish Cabal that Censors Everybody (tm) Newsgroups: alt.fan.ernst-zundel,alt.revisionism,alt.conspiracy,alt.politics.white-power Followup-To: alt.fan.ernst-zundel,alt.revisionism Subject: 960725: What? The United States Army Imperiled by Leuchter? X-Original-Subject: ZGram - July 25, 1996 - "What? The United States Army Imperiled by Leuchter?" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org Message-ID: <199607258203.ABA3968@infinity.c2.org> X-Plug: Community ConneXion provides privacy on the Internet. http://www.c2.org/ X-Decency: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/b/botting.gary X-ZundeLooMirror: http://www.c2.org/~rich/Not_By_Me_Not_My_Views/rebuttal.html X-Zundel: http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/z/zundel-ernst/ X-Ingrid: http://www.webcom.com/~ina/ X-Ingrid-Really: ftp://ftp.eye.net/pub/nizkor/people/r/rimland.ingrid X-Remember: http://www.nizkor.org/ X-Censorship: http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/t/thompson-linda/ X-DEOMI: http://www.pafb.af.mil/deomi/DEOMI.htm X-Leutcher: http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/l/leuchter-fred/ Complaints-To: mix-admin@anon.lcs.mit.edu Lines: 123 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.fan.ernst-zundel:1955 alt.revisionism:53277 alt.conspiracy:70680 alt.politics.white-power:37131 The Zundelgrams are posted to alt.fan.ernst-zundel and alt.revisionism daily, unedited (after BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM....). The opinions expressed do not necessarily represent the views of the poster, who is not the author. See X-Headers for relevant URLs. A good place to start is http://www.nizkor.org/features/ or, if you're in Europe, ftp://nizkor.iam.uni-bonn.de/pub/nizkor/ In today's Zundelgram, we discuss the esteemed engineer, er, fraud, Fred Leutcher, http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/l/leuchter-fred/, and the Air Force's Defense Equal Opportunity Management Institute, http://www.pafb.af.mil/deomi/DEOMI.htm Don't tell anybody, but they have a report specifically about the IHR at http://www.pafb.af.mil/deomi/ihr.htm The July 25th Zundelgram, "What? The United States Army [sic] Imperiled by Leuchter?" follows. ------------ BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ July 25, 1996 Good Morning from the Zundelsite: This one is absolutely delicious! Remember how I told "Murungu" only yesterday that Revisionism was making great strides, as judged by enemy retaliation tactics? Well, I have further proof. For those not yet familiar with some of the basics of Revisionism, it helps to understand that THE most critical document that has come out of the movement-bar none!-is called the Leuchter Report. The Leuchter Report came out of a highly dramatic secret expedition in the middle of the Second Great Holocaust Trial in 1988 in Toronto where the Holocaust Lobby, working through the government while helping themselves to tax payer money, had put Ernst on trial for "spreading false news." Forced to defend himself, Ernst scratched together his last pennies and sent America's # 1 specialist in execution equipment, Fred Leuchter, to Auschwitz to examine the alleged mass killing facilities there and determine scientifically if they could have been used for genocidal gassings on an industrial scale. This is important to remember: Ernst Zündel was the first man EVER in almost fifty years who said: "It's well and good to CLAIM the Holocaust occurred. But where is the scientific evidence? Let's check the alleged murder weapon, the "gas chamber", once and for all. Let's see if there's a smoking gun." The outcome was the first forensic report EVER undertaken in the history of the so-called Holocaust. Fred Leuchter stated that the Holocaust, as sold to the gullible public, was a scientific absurdity. Since then, there have been three more such reports, essentially confirming what Leuchter found eight years ago. Ever since, the Holocaust Hucksters have struggled mightily to keep the Leuchter Report away from a distrustful public getting ever more skittish about unsubstantiated Holocaust claims. In vain. Overnight, it took on a life of its own. It has been translated into 12 languages and sold in 18 countries. By now, it must have sold in the million, and if Ernst had seen fit to enforce the copyright - which he did not, for Truth to Ernst is gold while money is merely paper - he would be a very rich man. I guess Ernst's enemies have now decided that since there is no way on earth to keep the Leuchter Report under wraps-the cat is now out of the bag!-they might as well confront its findings. Here is how that was done, as reported from the merry headquarters of the Institute for Historical Review, the hub for Revisionist scholarship: ". . . Who says Holocaust revisionism isn't making progress? Today we received in the mail a photocopy of a 20-page pamphlet entitled, "Holocaust Revisionism," put out by the Defense Equal Opportunity Management Institute, apparently part of the Department of Defense, dated June 1996. This pamphlet appears to have been written either in whole or in part by Captain Carlos C. Huerta, an orthodox Jewish chaplain. The errors (lies?) contained in this pamphlet would require an article- length piece to correct, but it is interesting to note that the stated reason why the DoD should be interested in teaching soldiers about Holocaust revisionism is because, 'A successful fighting force is a cohesive one, one where all members have respect for each other's diversity and dignity. Holocaust revisionism has the potential to destroy that respect.' If you wonder how an organization as small as the IHR has the potential to destroy the fighting effectiveness of today's armed forces, the pamphlet tells us that it is because the IHR has a 'major source of revenue' in the form of the pamphlet 'Inside the Auschwitz Gas Chambers,' by Fred Leuchter . . . The DoD pamphlet's author claims that "one in five Americans believe it is possible that the Holocaust may not have happened," and (apparently because of these large numbers) despairs of the difficulty in demonstrating the necessity of teaching about Holocaust revisionism to "someone not knowledgeable in the scope, volume, and effect of Holocaust revisionism today. . . " Re-read that again. ". . . one in five". ". . . the scope, volume and effect of Holocaust revisionism today." Have sweeter words been spoken lately? Imagine the Department of the Defense of the United States of America having to be warned rabbinically to watch out for Fred Leuchter? Those wishing to obtain a copy of this pamphlet are directed to the US Government Printing Office, document 1996 - 733-007/44407. Ingrid Thought for the Day: "Never answer a critic, unless he's right." (Bernard Baruch) ------------ END ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ From zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org Sat Jul 27 12:41:34 PDT 1996 Article: 37230 of alt.politics.white-power Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!news1.wtn.mci.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!flesh.fly.net!anon.lcs.mit.edu!mail2news Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 12:18:52 -0700 From: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org (E. Zundel Repost) Cc: mail2news@myriad.alias.net Newsgroups: alt.fan.ernst-zundel,alt.revisionism,alt.conspiracy,alt.politics.white-power Followup-To: alt.fan.ernst-zundel,alt.revisionism Organization: The Jooooooooooooooooooish Cabal that Censors Everybody (tm) Subject: 960726: SWC an Ostrich? X-Original-Subject: ZGram - July 26, 1996 "SWC an Ostrich? Sender: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org Message-ID: <199607267623.AABA841@infinity.c2.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Plug: Community ConneXion provides privacy on the Internet. http://www.c2.org/ X-Decency: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/b/botting.gary X-ZundeLooMirror: http://www.c2.org/~rich/Not_By_Me_Not_My_Views/rebuttal.html X-Zundel: http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/z/zundel-ernst/ X-Ingrid: http://www.webcom.com/~ina/ X-Ingrid-Really: ftp://ftp.eye.net/pub/nizkor/people/r/rimland.ingrid X-Remember: http://www.nizkor.org/ Complaints-To: mix-admin@anon.lcs.mit.edu Lines: 184 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.fan.ernst-zundel:1983 alt.revisionism:53525 alt.conspiracy:70961 alt.politics.white-power:37230 The Zundelgrams are posted to alt.fan.ernst-zundel and alt.revisionism daily, unedited (after BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM....). The opinions expressed do not necessarily represent the views of the poster, who is not the author. See X-Headers for relevant URLs. A good place to start is http://www.nizkor.org/features/ or, if you're in Europe, ftp://nizkor.iam.uni-bonn.de/pub/nizkor/ Join the fan club: http://techweb.cmp.com:80/net/magazine/current/newscam/newscam1.htm And now, to demonstrate the truth of Ken's words, the daily Zundelgram: ------------ BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ July 26, 1996 Good Morning from the Zundelsite: A friend called and said she had read somewhere that the Simon Wiesenthal Center has now identified 250 website to be characterized and targeted as "hate pages." Of course we call them Truth in History Pages - at least the ones who make an honest effort to focus on the Truth, as it behooves our kind. It's news like that that makes me think that ". . . Truth is putting on its shoes." Big Time. If growth is exponential - and all indications are that it is - then one of my favorite jingles applies: "Shake and shake the catsup bottle, none will come, and then a lot'll. Especially the German sites are interesting. I don't know where they are located - what with the horrid censorship in that poor, demonized, confused, beleaguered country - but here are two I'd like for those of you who speak German to check out and give me some feedback if I should bookmark and recommend them in future communiques. http://www.thulenet.com/ http://www.c2.net/~bs-org/ Also, the Nation of Europe page, http://www.demon.co.uk/natofeur/is one to watch and weigh. I may have recommended it before. And even pages one might characterize as "enemy pages" can be extremely useful, especially for ideologically besieged and terrorized countries such as Germany. Take the "Rechtsextreme Bibliothek" page, for example. http://sunserver1.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de/~schatzs/bib.html It's a little bit like listening to BBC if you were in German-controlled Europe during World War II. You find out very quickly what your opposition is up to, who has been targeted, and why. I also noticed that quite a few of these new pages are linking to us - not via homepage but on special pages such as Language Table of Contents, for example. I think that is an excellent idea. We ought to do that, too. Imagine developing a habit where every morning, with your cup of coffee, you check your favorite 3 or 4 newspages to get updated reports from the front. You don't have to wade through five layers of links to get to the meat of the matter. Which gives me an idea. I should start marketing my ZGrams that way - which I will promptly do. (And, by the way, I have now finally caved in, abandoned my beloved Adobe program and, with the help of a good friend, am now converting ALL my ZGrams into HTML format.) To come back to a previous point - that is, the efforts of the Simon Wiesenthal Center with their own Jewish slant to get opposing views shot out of cyberspace - I bring you now the following. It comes from the opposing camp - someone who used to fancy himself in league with the SWC Center of Tolerance (sic). It is Ken McVay, Director of the Nizkor Project, addressing himself to Sol Litman's attempt to get Marc Lemire's Freedom Site shut down: ". . . The July 19 article in the Vancouver Sun, 'B.C. Internet provider is the largest Canadian site for racist material' is alarming. It is not the material found on the websites mentioned, nor the fact that the host server is Canadian -- nor indeed that the server is physically located in BC -- which give cause for alarm. It is alarming because -- either by deliberate design or by abject ignorance -- Sol Littman (and the Simon Wiesenthal Center [SWC] whom he represents in Canada) is fostering and promoting the spread of the "Ostrich Syndrome." Their actions represent a counter-productive denial of reality -- akin to the Ostrich burying its head in the sand. Littman is quoted as saying: 'We found the longer you leave these groups unexposed, the longer they fester and the more they infect others and the only way to deal with them honestly and forcefully is to expose them to the light of truth.' Yet the article concludes, 'Littman said he wants to see if Klatt will remove the groups from Fairview voluntarily before the centre takes any other action.' The only truth that seems to emerge from such a veiled threat is that Littman has no understanding of the Internet. One is at a loss to determine how removal of the 'groups' from one Internet Provider's server would in any way 'expose them to the light of truth.' If Littman had any knowledge of the Internet, he would know that the Nizkor Project [http://www.nizkor.org/] is an award winning website that is accessed daily by hundreds. In addition to being a source for those who seek information about the facts of the Holocaust, it is used as an electronic resource for those who wish to 'deal with [these groups] honestly and forcefully' thereby exposing Lemire and many others -- of whom Littman may not even be aware. Nizkor is arguably the 'host' to more hate literature than any other website. Since we also include a link to the Zundelsite amongst others, will Littman next be targetting Nizkor and demanding that we remove such links? Or that we hide from public view the mountains of archived material which meticulously documents and uses the 'arguments' put forward by these groups as instruments of their refutation and exposure? If Littman and the SWC prefer to bury their heads in the sand while engaging in this futile exercise in darkness, let them do so. But the martyrdom they hand on a platter to Lemire and others whom they find offensive stands in marked contrast to their failure to use the Internet on their own website. Conspicuously absent on the SWC website are links to the increasingly growing number of useful resources for those who truly do wish to participate in the battle to expose racist and anti-semitic groups on the Internet. The Ostrich syndrome is far more dangerous to society than any white supremacist group on the Internet. Such groups will fester in darkness, but wither in light. . . " So much for Ken McVay. Nizkor, if you will please remember, is one I call a Poodle Site. They yelp and yap and snap a lot, mostly at their opponent's ankles. Now notice what is going on here: At least one of the Nizkor folks is turning its teeth on its intellectual "Masters" - the Godfathers of Holocaust Promotion. And he is right on one count: They store a lot of hate literature - against the German people. More and more people see that now because they can compare the Nizkor website with the Zundelsite, contrasting both content and style. This is another indication of how the Opposition Front is crumbling. From the very start, the Simon Wiesenthal Center has taken a studied distance >from Nizkor - and no wonder! - for while they let them do the barking, the SWC and Nizkor just do not operate in the same league - or, for that matter, out of the same ideological kitty. I have watched Ken McVay for quite some time. I think he is an honest chap, compared to one or two I wouldn't classify that way. I believe that Ken McVay is one of those who, filled with amazing zeal right now to do us in, belongs in our camp. (I bet he'll shudder at the thought, and so will some of my compatriots . . . . ) Here's what I say - you mark my word: People like McVay cannot be duped forever. We've all been there. I well remember my time - when I believed that there was penance to be done. I woke up, and I believe McVay is waking up. I think that his letter to Litman is telling. Ingrid Thought for the Day: "When the flag is unfurled, all reason is in the trumpet." (Ulraininan Proverb) ------------ END ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ From zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org Sat Jul 27 12:45:54 PDT 1996 Article: 70680 of alt.conspiracy Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!nntp.teleport.com!news.serv.net!news.ac.net!news.cais.net!nntp.primenet.com!news.texas.net!cdc2.cdc.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!flesh.fly.net!anon.lcs.mit.edu!mail2news Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 15:32:39 -0700 From: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org (E. Zundel Repost) Organization: The Jooooooooooooooooooish Cabal that Censors Everybody (tm) Newsgroups: alt.fan.ernst-zundel,alt.revisionism,alt.conspiracy,alt.politics.white-power Followup-To: alt.fan.ernst-zundel,alt.revisionism Subject: 960725: What? The United States Army Imperiled by Leuchter? X-Original-Subject: ZGram - July 25, 1996 - "What? The United States Army Imperiled by Leuchter?" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org Message-ID: <199607258203.ABA3968@infinity.c2.org> X-Plug: Community ConneXion provides privacy on the Internet. http://www.c2.org/ X-Decency: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/b/botting.gary X-ZundeLooMirror: http://www.c2.org/~rich/Not_By_Me_Not_My_Views/rebuttal.html X-Zundel: http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/z/zundel-ernst/ X-Ingrid: http://www.webcom.com/~ina/ X-Ingrid-Really: ftp://ftp.eye.net/pub/nizkor/people/r/rimland.ingrid X-Remember: http://www.nizkor.org/ X-Censorship: http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/t/thompson-linda/ X-DEOMI: http://www.pafb.af.mil/deomi/DEOMI.htm X-Leutcher: http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/l/leuchter-fred/ Complaints-To: mix-admin@anon.lcs.mit.edu Lines: 123 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.fan.ernst-zundel:1955 alt.revisionism:53277 alt.conspiracy:70680 alt.politics.white-power:37131 The Zundelgrams are posted to alt.fan.ernst-zundel and alt.revisionism daily, unedited (after BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM....). The opinions expressed do not necessarily represent the views of the poster, who is not the author. See X-Headers for relevant URLs. A good place to start is http://www.nizkor.org/features/ or, if you're in Europe, ftp://nizkor.iam.uni-bonn.de/pub/nizkor/ In today's Zundelgram, we discuss the esteemed engineer, er, fraud, Fred Leutcher, http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/l/leuchter-fred/, and the Air Force's Defense Equal Opportunity Management Institute, http://www.pafb.af.mil/deomi/DEOMI.htm Don't tell anybody, but they have a report specifically about the IHR at http://www.pafb.af.mil/deomi/ihr.htm The July 25th Zundelgram, "What? The United States Army [sic] Imperiled by Leuchter?" follows. ------------ BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ July 25, 1996 Good Morning from the Zundelsite: This one is absolutely delicious! Remember how I told "Murungu" only yesterday that Revisionism was making great strides, as judged by enemy retaliation tactics? Well, I have further proof. For those not yet familiar with some of the basics of Revisionism, it helps to understand that THE most critical document that has come out of the movement-bar none!-is called the Leuchter Report. The Leuchter Report came out of a highly dramatic secret expedition in the middle of the Second Great Holocaust Trial in 1988 in Toronto where the Holocaust Lobby, working through the government while helping themselves to tax payer money, had put Ernst on trial for "spreading false news." Forced to defend himself, Ernst scratched together his last pennies and sent America's # 1 specialist in execution equipment, Fred Leuchter, to Auschwitz to examine the alleged mass killing facilities there and determine scientifically if they could have been used for genocidal gassings on an industrial scale. This is important to remember: Ernst Zündel was the first man EVER in almost fifty years who said: "It's well and good to CLAIM the Holocaust occurred. But where is the scientific evidence? Let's check the alleged murder weapon, the "gas chamber", once and for all. Let's see if there's a smoking gun." The outcome was the first forensic report EVER undertaken in the history of the so-called Holocaust. Fred Leuchter stated that the Holocaust, as sold to the gullible public, was a scientific absurdity. Since then, there have been three more such reports, essentially confirming what Leuchter found eight years ago. Ever since, the Holocaust Hucksters have struggled mightily to keep the Leuchter Report away from a distrustful public getting ever more skittish about unsubstantiated Holocaust claims. In vain. Overnight, it took on a life of its own. It has been translated into 12 languages and sold in 18 countries. By now, it must have sold in the million, and if Ernst had seen fit to enforce the copyright - which he did not, for Truth to Ernst is gold while money is merely paper - he would be a very rich man. I guess Ernst's enemies have now decided that since there is no way on earth to keep the Leuchter Report under wraps-the cat is now out of the bag!-they might as well confront its findings. Here is how that was done, as reported from the merry headquarters of the Institute for Historical Review, the hub for Revisionist scholarship: ". . . Who says Holocaust revisionism isn't making progress? Today we received in the mail a photocopy of a 20-page pamphlet entitled, "Holocaust Revisionism," put out by the Defense Equal Opportunity Management Institute, apparently part of the Department of Defense, dated June 1996. This pamphlet appears to have been written either in whole or in part by Captain Carlos C. Huerta, an orthodox Jewish chaplain. The errors (lies?) contained in this pamphlet would require an article- length piece to correct, but it is interesting to note that the stated reason why the DoD should be interested in teaching soldiers about Holocaust revisionism is because, 'A successful fighting force is a cohesive one, one where all members have respect for each other's diversity and dignity. Holocaust revisionism has the potential to destroy that respect.' If you wonder how an organization as small as the IHR has the potential to destroy the fighting effectiveness of today's armed forces, the pamphlet tells us that it is because the IHR has a 'major source of revenue' in the form of the pamphlet 'Inside the Auschwitz Gas Chambers,' by Fred Leuchter . . . The DoD pamphlet's author claims that "one in five Americans believe it is possible that the Holocaust may not have happened," and (apparently because of these large numbers) despairs of the difficulty in demonstrating the necessity of teaching about Holocaust revisionism to "someone not knowledgeable in the scope, volume, and effect of Holocaust revisionism today. . . " Re-read that again. ". . . one in five". ". . . the scope, volume and effect of Holocaust revisionism today." Have sweeter words been spoken lately? Imagine the Department of the Defense of the United States of America having to be warned rabbinically to watch out for Fred Leuchter? Those wishing to obtain a copy of this pamphlet are directed to the US Government Printing Office, document 1996 - 733-007/44407. Ingrid Thought for the Day: "Never answer a critic, unless he's right." (Bernard Baruch) ------------ END ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ From zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org Sat Jul 27 12:45:55 PDT 1996 Article: 70961 of alt.conspiracy Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!news1.wtn.mci.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!flesh.fly.net!anon.lcs.mit.edu!mail2news Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 12:18:52 -0700 From: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org (E. Zundel Repost) Cc: mail2news@myriad.alias.net Newsgroups: alt.fan.ernst-zundel,alt.revisionism,alt.conspiracy,alt.politics.white-power Followup-To: alt.fan.ernst-zundel,alt.revisionism Organization: The Jooooooooooooooooooish Cabal that Censors Everybody (tm) Subject: 960726: SWC an Ostrich? X-Original-Subject: ZGram - July 26, 1996 "SWC an Ostrich? Sender: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org Message-ID: <199607267623.AABA841@infinity.c2.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Plug: Community ConneXion provides privacy on the Internet. http://www.c2.org/ X-Decency: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/b/botting.gary X-ZundeLooMirror: http://www.c2.org/~rich/Not_By_Me_Not_My_Views/rebuttal.html X-Zundel: http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/z/zundel-ernst/ X-Ingrid: http://www.webcom.com/~ina/ X-Ingrid-Really: ftp://ftp.eye.net/pub/nizkor/people/r/rimland.ingrid X-Remember: http://www.nizkor.org/ Complaints-To: mix-admin@anon.lcs.mit.edu Lines: 184 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.fan.ernst-zundel:1983 alt.revisionism:53525 alt.conspiracy:70961 alt.politics.white-power:37230 The Zundelgrams are posted to alt.fan.ernst-zundel and alt.revisionism daily, unedited (after BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM....). The opinions expressed do not necessarily represent the views of the poster, who is not the author. See X-Headers for relevant URLs. A good place to start is http://www.nizkor.org/features/ or, if you're in Europe, ftp://nizkor.iam.uni-bonn.de/pub/nizkor/ Join the fan club: http://techweb.cmp.com:80/net/magazine/current/newscam/newscam1.htm And now, to demonstrate the truth of Ken's words, the daily Zundelgram: ------------ BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ July 26, 1996 Good Morning from the Zundelsite: A friend called and said she had read somewhere that the Simon Wiesenthal Center has now identified 250 website to be characterized and targeted as "hate pages." Of course we call them Truth in History Pages - at least the ones who make an honest effort to focus on the Truth, as it behooves our kind. It's news like that that makes me think that ". . . Truth is putting on its shoes." Big Time. If growth is exponential - and all indications are that it is - then one of my favorite jingles applies: "Shake and shake the catsup bottle, none will come, and then a lot'll. Especially the German sites are interesting. I don't know where they are located - what with the horrid censorship in that poor, demonized, confused, beleaguered country - but here are two I'd like for those of you who speak German to check out and give me some feedback if I should bookmark and recommend them in future communiques. http://www.thulenet.com/ http://www.c2.net/~bs-org/ Also, the Nation of Europe page, http://www.demon.co.uk/natofeur/is one to watch and weigh. I may have recommended it before. And even pages one might characterize as "enemy pages" can be extremely useful, especially for ideologically besieged and terrorized countries such as Germany. Take the "Rechtsextreme Bibliothek" page, for example. http://sunserver1.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de/~schatzs/bib.html It's a little bit like listening to BBC if you were in German-controlled Europe during World War II. You find out very quickly what your opposition is up to, who has been targeted, and why. I also noticed that quite a few of these new pages are linking to us - not via homepage but on special pages such as Language Table of Contents, for example. I think that is an excellent idea. We ought to do that, too. Imagine developing a habit where every morning, with your cup of coffee, you check your favorite 3 or 4 newspages to get updated reports from the front. You don't have to wade through five layers of links to get to the meat of the matter. Which gives me an idea. I should start marketing my ZGrams that way - which I will promptly do. (And, by the way, I have now finally caved in, abandoned my beloved Adobe program and, with the help of a good friend, am now converting ALL my ZGrams into HTML format.) To come back to a previous point - that is, the efforts of the Simon Wiesenthal Center with their own Jewish slant to get opposing views shot out of cyberspace - I bring you now the following. It comes from the opposing camp - someone who used to fancy himself in league with the SWC Center of Tolerance (sic). It is Ken McVay, Director of the Nizkor Project, addressing himself to Sol Litman's attempt to get Marc Lemire's Freedom Site shut down: ". . . The July 19 article in the Vancouver Sun, 'B.C. Internet provider is the largest Canadian site for racist material' is alarming. It is not the material found on the websites mentioned, nor the fact that the host server is Canadian -- nor indeed that the server is physically located in BC -- which give cause for alarm. It is alarming because -- either by deliberate design or by abject ignorance -- Sol Littman (and the Simon Wiesenthal Center [SWC] whom he represents in Canada) is fostering and promoting the spread of the "Ostrich Syndrome." Their actions represent a counter-productive denial of reality -- akin to the Ostrich burying its head in the sand. Littman is quoted as saying: 'We found the longer you leave these groups unexposed, the longer they fester and the more they infect others and the only way to deal with them honestly and forcefully is to expose them to the light of truth.' Yet the article concludes, 'Littman said he wants to see if Klatt will remove the groups from Fairview voluntarily before the centre takes any other action.' The only truth that seems to emerge from such a veiled threat is that Littman has no understanding of the Internet. One is at a loss to determine how removal of the 'groups' from one Internet Provider's server would in any way 'expose them to the light of truth.' If Littman had any knowledge of the Internet, he would know that the Nizkor Project [http://www.nizkor.org/] is an award winning website that is accessed daily by hundreds. In addition to being a source for those who seek information about the facts of the Holocaust, it is used as an electronic resource for those who wish to 'deal with [these groups] honestly and forcefully' thereby exposing Lemire and many others -- of whom Littman may not even be aware. Nizkor is arguably the 'host' to more hate literature than any other website. Since we also include a link to the Zundelsite amongst others, will Littman next be targetting Nizkor and demanding that we remove such links? Or that we hide from public view the mountains of archived material which meticulously documents and uses the 'arguments' put forward by these groups as instruments of their refutation and exposure? If Littman and the SWC prefer to bury their heads in the sand while engaging in this futile exercise in darkness, let them do so. But the martyrdom they hand on a platter to Lemire and others whom they find offensive stands in marked contrast to their failure to use the Internet on their own website. Conspicuously absent on the SWC website are links to the increasingly growing number of useful resources for those who truly do wish to participate in the battle to expose racist and anti-semitic groups on the Internet. The Ostrich syndrome is far more dangerous to society than any white supremacist group on the Internet. Such groups will fester in darkness, but wither in light. . . " So much for Ken McVay. Nizkor, if you will please remember, is one I call a Poodle Site. They yelp and yap and snap a lot, mostly at their opponent's ankles. Now notice what is going on here: At least one of the Nizkor folks is turning its teeth on its intellectual "Masters" - the Godfathers of Holocaust Promotion. And he is right on one count: They store a lot of hate literature - against the German people. More and more people see that now because they can compare the Nizkor website with the Zundelsite, contrasting both content and style. This is another indication of how the Opposition Front is crumbling. From the very start, the Simon Wiesenthal Center has taken a studied distance >from Nizkor - and no wonder! - for while they let them do the barking, the SWC and Nizkor just do not operate in the same league - or, for that matter, out of the same ideological kitty. I have watched Ken McVay for quite some time. I think he is an honest chap, compared to one or two I wouldn't classify that way. I believe that Ken McVay is one of those who, filled with amazing zeal right now to do us in, belongs in our camp. (I bet he'll shudder at the thought, and so will some of my compatriots . . . . ) Here's what I say - you mark my word: People like McVay cannot be duped forever. We've all been there. I well remember my time - when I believed that there was penance to be done. I woke up, and I believe McVay is waking up. I think that his letter to Litman is telling. Ingrid Thought for the Day: "When the flag is unfurled, all reason is in the trumpet." (Ulraininan Proverb) ------------ END ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ From zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org Sat Jul 27 12:51:25 PDT 1996 Article: 1955 of alt.fan.ernst-zundel Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!nntp.teleport.com!news.serv.net!news.ac.net!news.cais.net!nntp.primenet.com!news.texas.net!cdc2.cdc.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!flesh.fly.net!anon.lcs.mit.edu!mail2news Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 15:32:39 -0700 From: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org (E. Zundel Repost) Organization: The Jooooooooooooooooooish Cabal that Censors Everybody (tm) Newsgroups: alt.fan.ernst-zundel,alt.revisionism,alt.conspiracy,alt.politics.white-power Followup-To: alt.fan.ernst-zundel,alt.revisionism Subject: 960725: What? The United States Army Imperiled by Leuchter? X-Original-Subject: ZGram - July 25, 1996 - "What? The United States Army Imperiled by Leuchter?" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org Message-ID: <199607258203.ABA3968@infinity.c2.org> X-Plug: Community ConneXion provides privacy on the Internet. http://www.c2.org/ X-Decency: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/b/botting.gary X-ZundeLooMirror: http://www.c2.org/~rich/Not_By_Me_Not_My_Views/rebuttal.html X-Zundel: http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/z/zundel-ernst/ X-Ingrid: http://www.webcom.com/~ina/ X-Ingrid-Really: ftp://ftp.eye.net/pub/nizkor/people/r/rimland.ingrid X-Remember: http://www.nizkor.org/ X-Censorship: http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/t/thompson-linda/ X-DEOMI: http://www.pafb.af.mil/deomi/DEOMI.htm X-Leutcher: http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/l/leuchter-fred/ Complaints-To: mix-admin@anon.lcs.mit.edu Lines: 123 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.fan.ernst-zundel:1955 alt.revisionism:53277 alt.conspiracy:70680 alt.politics.white-power:37131 The Zundelgrams are posted to alt.fan.ernst-zundel and alt.revisionism daily, unedited (after BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM....). The opinions expressed do not necessarily represent the views of the poster, who is not the author. See X-Headers for relevant URLs. A good place to start is http://www.nizkor.org/features/ or, if you're in Europe, ftp://nizkor.iam.uni-bonn.de/pub/nizkor/ In today's Zundelgram, we discuss the esteemed engineer, er, fraud, Fred Leutcher, http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/l/leuchter-fred/, and the Air Force's Defense Equal Opportunity Management Institute, http://www.pafb.af.mil/deomi/DEOMI.htm Don't tell anybody, but they have a report specifically about the IHR at http://www.pafb.af.mil/deomi/ihr.htm The July 25th Zundelgram, "What? The United States Army [sic] Imperiled by Leuchter?" follows. ------------ BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ July 25, 1996 Good Morning from the Zundelsite: This one is absolutely delicious! Remember how I told "Murungu" only yesterday that Revisionism was making great strides, as judged by enemy retaliation tactics? Well, I have further proof. For those not yet familiar with some of the basics of Revisionism, it helps to understand that THE most critical document that has come out of the movement-bar none!-is called the Leuchter Report. The Leuchter Report came out of a highly dramatic secret expedition in the middle of the Second Great Holocaust Trial in 1988 in Toronto where the Holocaust Lobby, working through the government while helping themselves to tax payer money, had put Ernst on trial for "spreading false news." Forced to defend himself, Ernst scratched together his last pennies and sent America's # 1 specialist in execution equipment, Fred Leuchter, to Auschwitz to examine the alleged mass killing facilities there and determine scientifically if they could have been used for genocidal gassings on an industrial scale. This is important to remember: Ernst Zündel was the first man EVER in almost fifty years who said: "It's well and good to CLAIM the Holocaust occurred. But where is the scientific evidence? Let's check the alleged murder weapon, the "gas chamber", once and for all. Let's see if there's a smoking gun." The outcome was the first forensic report EVER undertaken in the history of the so-called Holocaust. Fred Leuchter stated that the Holocaust, as sold to the gullible public, was a scientific absurdity. Since then, there have been three more such reports, essentially confirming what Leuchter found eight years ago. Ever since, the Holocaust Hucksters have struggled mightily to keep the Leuchter Report away from a distrustful public getting ever more skittish about unsubstantiated Holocaust claims. In vain. Overnight, it took on a life of its own. It has been translated into 12 languages and sold in 18 countries. By now, it must have sold in the million, and if Ernst had seen fit to enforce the copyright - which he did not, for Truth to Ernst is gold while money is merely paper - he would be a very rich man. I guess Ernst's enemies have now decided that since there is no way on earth to keep the Leuchter Report under wraps-the cat is now out of the bag!-they might as well confront its findings. Here is how that was done, as reported from the merry headquarters of the Institute for Historical Review, the hub for Revisionist scholarship: ". . . Who says Holocaust revisionism isn't making progress? Today we received in the mail a photocopy of a 20-page pamphlet entitled, "Holocaust Revisionism," put out by the Defense Equal Opportunity Management Institute, apparently part of the Department of Defense, dated June 1996. This pamphlet appears to have been written either in whole or in part by Captain Carlos C. Huerta, an orthodox Jewish chaplain. The errors (lies?) contained in this pamphlet would require an article- length piece to correct, but it is interesting to note that the stated reason why the DoD should be interested in teaching soldiers about Holocaust revisionism is because, 'A successful fighting force is a cohesive one, one where all members have respect for each other's diversity and dignity. Holocaust revisionism has the potential to destroy that respect.' If you wonder how an organization as small as the IHR has the potential to destroy the fighting effectiveness of today's armed forces, the pamphlet tells us that it is because the IHR has a 'major source of revenue' in the form of the pamphlet 'Inside the Auschwitz Gas Chambers,' by Fred Leuchter . . . The DoD pamphlet's author claims that "one in five Americans believe it is possible that the Holocaust may not have happened," and (apparently because of these large numbers) despairs of the difficulty in demonstrating the necessity of teaching about Holocaust revisionism to "someone not knowledgeable in the scope, volume, and effect of Holocaust revisionism today. . . " Re-read that again. ". . . one in five". ". . . the scope, volume and effect of Holocaust revisionism today." Have sweeter words been spoken lately? Imagine the Department of the Defense of the United States of America having to be warned rabbinically to watch out for Fred Leuchter? Those wishing to obtain a copy of this pamphlet are directed to the US Government Printing Office, document 1996 - 733-007/44407. Ingrid Thought for the Day: "Never answer a critic, unless he's right." (Bernard Baruch) ------------ END ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ From zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org Sat Jul 27 12:51:26 PDT 1996 Article: 1983 of alt.fan.ernst-zundel Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!news1.wtn.mci.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!flesh.fly.net!anon.lcs.mit.edu!mail2news Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 12:18:52 -0700 From: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org (E. Zundel Repost) Cc: mail2news@myriad.alias.net Newsgroups: alt.fan.ernst-zundel,alt.revisionism,alt.conspiracy,alt.politics.white-power Followup-To: alt.fan.ernst-zundel,alt.revisionism Organization: The Jooooooooooooooooooish Cabal that Censors Everybody (tm) Subject: 960726: SWC an Ostrich? X-Original-Subject: ZGram - July 26, 1996 "SWC an Ostrich? Sender: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org Message-ID: <199607267623.AABA841@infinity.c2.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Plug: Community ConneXion provides privacy on the Internet. http://www.c2.org/ X-Decency: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/b/botting.gary X-ZundeLooMirror: http://www.c2.org/~rich/Not_By_Me_Not_My_Views/rebuttal.html X-Zundel: http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/z/zundel-ernst/ X-Ingrid: http://www.webcom.com/~ina/ X-Ingrid-Really: ftp://ftp.eye.net/pub/nizkor/people/r/rimland.ingrid X-Remember: http://www.nizkor.org/ Complaints-To: mix-admin@anon.lcs.mit.edu Lines: 184 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.fan.ernst-zundel:1983 alt.revisionism:53525 alt.conspiracy:70961 alt.politics.white-power:37230 The Zundelgrams are posted to alt.fan.ernst-zundel and alt.revisionism daily, unedited (after BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM....). The opinions expressed do not necessarily represent the views of the poster, who is not the author. See X-Headers for relevant URLs. A good place to start is http://www.nizkor.org/features/ or, if you're in Europe, ftp://nizkor.iam.uni-bonn.de/pub/nizkor/ Join the fan club: http://techweb.cmp.com:80/net/magazine/current/newscam/newscam1.htm And now, to demonstrate the truth of Ken's words, the daily Zundelgram: ------------ BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ July 26, 1996 Good Morning from the Zundelsite: A friend called and said she had read somewhere that the Simon Wiesenthal Center has now identified 250 website to be characterized and targeted as "hate pages." Of course we call them Truth in History Pages - at least the ones who make an honest effort to focus on the Truth, as it behooves our kind. It's news like that that makes me think that ". . . Truth is putting on its shoes." Big Time. If growth is exponential - and all indications are that it is - then one of my favorite jingles applies: "Shake and shake the catsup bottle, none will come, and then a lot'll. Especially the German sites are interesting. I don't know where they are located - what with the horrid censorship in that poor, demonized, confused, beleaguered country - but here are two I'd like for those of you who speak German to check out and give me some feedback if I should bookmark and recommend them in future communiques. http://www.thulenet.com/ http://www.c2.net/~bs-org/ Also, the Nation of Europe page, http://www.demon.co.uk/natofeur/is one to watch and weigh. I may have recommended it before. And even pages one might characterize as "enemy pages" can be extremely useful, especially for ideologically besieged and terrorized countries such as Germany. Take the "Rechtsextreme Bibliothek" page, for example. http://sunserver1.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de/~schatzs/bib.html It's a little bit like listening to BBC if you were in German-controlled Europe during World War II. You find out very quickly what your opposition is up to, who has been targeted, and why. I also noticed that quite a few of these new pages are linking to us - not via homepage but on special pages such as Language Table of Contents, for example. I think that is an excellent idea. We ought to do that, too. Imagine developing a habit where every morning, with your cup of coffee, you check your favorite 3 or 4 newspages to get updated reports from the front. You don't have to wade through five layers of links to get to the meat of the matter. Which gives me an idea. I should start marketing my ZGrams that way - which I will promptly do. (And, by the way, I have now finally caved in, abandoned my beloved Adobe program and, with the help of a good friend, am now converting ALL my ZGrams into HTML format.) To come back to a previous point - that is, the efforts of the Simon Wiesenthal Center with their own Jewish slant to get opposing views shot out of cyberspace - I bring you now the following. It comes from the opposing camp - someone who used to fancy himself in league with the SWC Center of Tolerance (sic). It is Ken McVay, Director of the Nizkor Project, addressing himself to Sol Litman's attempt to get Marc Lemire's Freedom Site shut down: ". . . The July 19 article in the Vancouver Sun, 'B.C. Internet provider is the largest Canadian site for racist material' is alarming. It is not the material found on the websites mentioned, nor the fact that the host server is Canadian -- nor indeed that the server is physically located in BC -- which give cause for alarm. It is alarming because -- either by deliberate design or by abject ignorance -- Sol Littman (and the Simon Wiesenthal Center [SWC] whom he represents in Canada) is fostering and promoting the spread of the "Ostrich Syndrome." Their actions represent a counter-productive denial of reality -- akin to the Ostrich burying its head in the sand. Littman is quoted as saying: 'We found the longer you leave these groups unexposed, the longer they fester and the more they infect others and the only way to deal with them honestly and forcefully is to expose them to the light of truth.' Yet the article concludes, 'Littman said he wants to see if Klatt will remove the groups from Fairview voluntarily before the centre takes any other action.' The only truth that seems to emerge from such a veiled threat is that Littman has no understanding of the Internet. One is at a loss to determine how removal of the 'groups' from one Internet Provider's server would in any way 'expose them to the light of truth.' If Littman had any knowledge of the Internet, he would know that the Nizkor Project [http://www.nizkor.org/] is an award winning website that is accessed daily by hundreds. In addition to being a source for those who seek information about the facts of the Holocaust, it is used as an electronic resource for those who wish to 'deal with [these groups] honestly and forcefully' thereby exposing Lemire and many others -- of whom Littman may not even be aware. Nizkor is arguably the 'host' to more hate literature than any other website. Since we also include a link to the Zundelsite amongst others, will Littman next be targetting Nizkor and demanding that we remove such links? Or that we hide from public view the mountains of archived material which meticulously documents and uses the 'arguments' put forward by these groups as instruments of their refutation and exposure? If Littman and the SWC prefer to bury their heads in the sand while engaging in this futile exercise in darkness, let them do so. But the martyrdom they hand on a platter to Lemire and others whom they find offensive stands in marked contrast to their failure to use the Internet on their own website. Conspicuously absent on the SWC website are links to the increasingly growing number of useful resources for those who truly do wish to participate in the battle to expose racist and anti-semitic groups on the Internet. The Ostrich syndrome is far more dangerous to society than any white supremacist group on the Internet. Such groups will fester in darkness, but wither in light. . . " So much for Ken McVay. Nizkor, if you will please remember, is one I call a Poodle Site. They yelp and yap and snap a lot, mostly at their opponent's ankles. Now notice what is going on here: At least one of the Nizkor folks is turning its teeth on its intellectual "Masters" - the Godfathers of Holocaust Promotion. And he is right on one count: They store a lot of hate literature - against the German people. More and more people see that now because they can compare the Nizkor website with the Zundelsite, contrasting both content and style. This is another indication of how the Opposition Front is crumbling. From the very start, the Simon Wiesenthal Center has taken a studied distance >from Nizkor - and no wonder! - for while they let them do the barking, the SWC and Nizkor just do not operate in the same league - or, for that matter, out of the same ideological kitty. I have watched Ken McVay for quite some time. I think he is an honest chap, compared to one or two I wouldn't classify that way. I believe that Ken McVay is one of those who, filled with amazing zeal right now to do us in, belongs in our camp. (I bet he'll shudder at the thought, and so will some of my compatriots . . . . ) Here's what I say - you mark my word: People like McVay cannot be duped forever. We've all been there. I well remember my time - when I believed that there was penance to be done. I woke up, and I believe McVay is waking up. I think that his letter to Litman is telling. Ingrid Thought for the Day: "When the flag is unfurled, all reason is in the trumpet." (Ulraininan Proverb) ------------ END ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ From zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org Sun Jul 28 07:11:20 PDT 1996 Article: 53870 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!apollo.isisnet.com!thor.atcon.com!news.nstn.ca!newsflash.concordia.ca!newsfeed.pitt.edu!scramble.lm.com!news.math.psu.edu!news.cse.psu.edu!uwm.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!news.sgi.com!news.msfc.nasa.gov!newsfeed.internetmci.com!flesh.fly.net!anon.lcs.mit.edu!mail2news Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 07:38:25 -0700 From: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org (E. Zundel Repost) Cc: mail2news@myriad.alias.net Newsgroups: alt.fan.ernst-zundel,alt.revisionism,alt.conspiracy Followup-To: alt.fan.ernst-zundel,alt.revisionism Organization: The Jooooooooooooooooooish Cabal that Censors Everybody (tm) Subject: 960727: Interview with Internet Australia X-Original-Subject: ZGram - July 27, 1996 - "Interview with Internet Australia Sender: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org Message-ID: <199607278623.AABA294@infinity.c2.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Plug: Community ConneXion provides privacy on the Internet. http://www.c2.org/ X-Decency: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/b/botting.gary X-ZundeLooMirror: http://www.c2.org/~rich/Not_By_Me_Not_My_Views/rebuttal.html X-Zundel: http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/z/zundel-ernst/ X-Ingrid: http://www.webcom.com/~ina/ X-Ingrid-Really: ftp://ftp.eye.net/pub/nizkor/people/r/rimland.ingrid X-Remember: http://www.nizkor.org/ Complaints-To: mix-admin@anon.lcs.mit.edu Lines: 246 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.fan.ernst-zundel:2043 alt.revisionism:53870 alt.conspiracy:71618 The Zundelgrams are posted to alt.fan.ernst-zundel and alt.revisionism daily, unedited (after BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM....). The opinions expressed do not necessarily represent the views of the poster, who is not the author. See X-Headers for relevant URLs. A good place to start is http://www.nizkor.org/features/ or, if you're in Europe, ftp://nizkor.iam.uni-bonn.de/pub/nizkor/ I have no comment at this time. ------------ BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ July 27, 1996 Good Morning from the Zundelsite: I am very conscious of recording history with my ZGrams because the movement is so new and raw. For this reason, sometimes I send you information that you might get from other sources, just to hold things sequentially and to show how the True World Order is spreading globally. Below is an interview that Ernst gave about a week ago to Australia's largest Internet Magazine, Internet Australia. I am bringing it here for your perusal and edification. Question: As you explain, your site has been subjected to various attempts at censorship. Please outline the main challenges that the Zundelsite has faced. Ernst Zundel: Pressure was brought against our first server in California, which led to the abrupt cancellation of our website. The pressure came >from the two largest customers, both Jewish, who threatened the server that they would yank their accounts if he did not kick us off immediately. Of course this would never do in a grocery store! We had told these people exactly who we were and had been assured by this server company that they would never cancel anyone due to content. The company did not live up to that promise. We were notified by phone call five minutes before they pulled the plug on us. We were not even allowed to put up a link to tell our readers where they could find us or why we had been terminated. Our current server came under heavy pressure in January of this year right after we announced an electronic debate with a politically antagonistic website, Nizkor. Censorship was almost instantaneous. At first, the story that played in the traditional world media was that Compuserve was canceling news groups because of "concerns over pornography," and hints were dropped that websites would be next. Very quickly it became evident that the target was the Revisionist Zundelsite and that the censorship strategies came right out of the Simon Wiesenthal Center. We have been told informally that Telekom in Germany blocked 1500 customer sites at Web Communications solely in order to prevent German people from accessing the Zundelsite, which contains material relating to the Holocaust forbidden to be researched and debated in Germany. Very quickly, things became extremely uncomfortable for this new server as well. So far, he has stood firm against all pressure and even defied the German Telekom ban. Question: Various sources have mentioned Canada's anti-hate speech' laws. How does this affect the Zundelsite? Would it make the contents illegal? Ernst Zundel: We do not publish material that is hateful or illegal-certainly not in Canada. We are engaged in a legal and determined quest of researching and reporting truthful history as we find it. The most troublesome problems for us have come not from official sources but from the Internet terrorists, some of whom seem to be at it full time-anonymous people who have repeatedly tried to sabotage us by destroying our e-mail, copying and then altering it, redirecting it, quoting our material out of context, sending us megabytes of garbage and, worst of all, sending out press releases and news group posts using my name in various altered forms with nasty comments and distorted messages, some of them semi-pornographic. The idea is to demonize me and make me look like both a fool and fiend. This is a traditional tactic and was employed against me many times in the print media in the past 30 years. Question: The issue of trying to censor an online medium with local laws is somewhat difficult, as opponents of the CDA (Community Decency Act) in the USA pointed out. Does this also make it difficult for Canada's laws to suppress the Zundelsite? How about your overseas mirrors? Ernst Zundel: The spontaneous mirroring was a resounding success. It taught the world that there were technically competent censorship busters out there who would not tolerate special interests to dictate what could be posted on the Net. No one with a mirror site anywhere was criminally charged. We will know in a few weeks what the Canadian system has to say about this latest attempt at censorship of the Internet, especially the Zundelsite, because I face a defamation suit in civil court, which will be a back-door attempt at censorship and intimidation by using private parties who see themselves aggrieved. As of today, I have not been criminally charged in Canada for anything posted on my website, because I try very hard to comply with Canadian laws, even though my website is in the USA. I only located the site there to avoid hassles, not to contravene Canadian laws. So far, I was proven correct in this move. I expect at least an attempt at an interlocutory decree to prevent me from running my website. Question: The operator of Nizkor claims at his site to be opposed to online censorship laws, and says that he prefers to debate you in the open. Do you share this view? Do you believe that Nizkor has a right to express themselves too? Certainly. I am in favor of Nizkor or anyone else having the right to present their version of how they perceive history-be it the so-called "Holocaust," politically incorrect ideas in general, National Socialism in particular etc. etc. I only want that same right to present my viewpoint fairly, reasonably and honestly, not under constant threat of criminal prosecution. I do sometimes wish Nizkor would not be so abusive-insinuating motives which simply are not there but seem merely to mirror their own paranoia. Question: Nizkor also claim that debating each other on the Web is like shifting icebergs. Would you ever debate McVay in a more immediate forum such as Usenet or IRC? Ernst Zundel: I am amazed they still mention "debate". They have vehemently denounced the term and claim that a "debate" was our own invention. They claim they merely want to "link," so we will let them link. I will debate McVay in person anywhere anytime in public. I would like for McVay to submit in person to an interview on one of my radio or TV shows about his version of the Holocaust. I will gladly appear with him on other people's radio or TV shows to debate him in a civilized fashion. I will debate him on a university campus or in any other respectable public forum. I am not afraid of debate and would welcome a debate. I have asked for a debate on the Holocaust for two decades. Debate McVay or other Nizkor folks on Usenet or IRC? No. The issues before us are complex and serious and do not lend themselves to conduct such as Jamie McCarthy once described as a "party" where people might run around having fun "with lampshades on their heads." Millions of peoples' lives or their deaths are the issue here. People were hanged for "crimes" that were apparently never committed. For people who went through the war as I did as a child, Revisionism is very serious business. It's not a spitting contest. The newsgroups are unpleasant places where people are basically shouted down, character-assassinated, vilified and libeled-with little real "debating" taking place. Question: Some political groups seem to do nothing more than preach to the converted. Does the Zundelsite really convince people to support you? Ernst Zundel: Absolutely. You see, for the first time in 50+ years' worth of post-war vilification of the German people and nation, it is possible for many people to get to read and to reflect on an alternate point of view about Germany's role in recent history. The Z=FCndelsite was conceived as a convenient means for total newcomers to find out about our way of thinking. Ordinary mail is sometimes considered intrusive. People might resent receiving a newsletter, tape or booklet with unfamiliar political content. The Z=FCndelsite functions like a library. The public can inform themselves at their own choice and leisure. The "shelves" are there; people can choose to look at material or by-pass it if it offends them. This is still virgin territory, historically speaking. Especially young people are amazed that we are not a bunch of low-brow skinheads shouting racial slogans but rational people who offer a respectably body of very serious forensic, historical and scientific research and evidence that calls into question the traditional dogma of the Holocaust and related subjects. The Net is an efficient tool to get our viewpoint looked at or heard. We expose Revisionism to people we could not reach in any other way. A website is extremely economical. We save literally thousands of dollars per month while getting in touch with thousands of mainly young people the world over - youngsters of good mental caliber. Various sources have claimed that as many as half of standard Internet users are young, well-educated, upwardly mobile - in other words, potential future leaders. Question: I would expect that you receive a lot of abusive feedback. How do you deal with the flames? Do you reply to everyone? Ernst Zundel: You could not be more wrong. When we first started posting our version of history on the Z=FCndelsite, we received four hate mail letters for every letter that was positive. Now this is totally reversed. Almost all our mail is positive; a lot of it is actually emotional and often out-and-out ecstatic. We are amazed at the thoughtful, serious inquiries we constantly receive from university students and scholars from as far away as Malaysia and South Africa. Very serious Revisionist research is now going on all over the world-research that can be grounded, backed, bolstered and double-checked from documents downloaded from our website. The occasional hate mail letter is rare and usually contains some choice language with little content or rationale. We don't reply to hate mail and to spams. It is a waste of time. Question: Is the effort to regulate the flow of pornography on the Net analogous to the distribution of political material? What is common to the debate? Do you believe that the CDA (Community Decency Act) had an agenda to work against more than just pornography? Ernst Zundel: The answer is yes. You hit the nail right on the head. The fight against pornography has always been the cloak the tyrant likes to wear. There is NO common dimension to our Revisionist material and pornography. The ploy is very old, however. Traditionally, the enemies of freedom the world over have always lumped "hate literature" as they like to call it - I guess because they hate the truth that it contains! - and pornography together. In various police departments and customs offices in Canada we have so-called "Hate Literature and Pornography" sections to fix in people's minds the notion that the two terms are equally dirty - and interchangeable. The pairing of the terms is not coincidence. The claim that children will be hurt is not coincidence. It rouses the emotions. A psychological warfare technique is employed. The CDA (Community Decency Act) was rammed through US Congress in ways a similar law was never forced down people's throats regarding other media such as radio, TV or print. The enemies of freedom knew all too well what they were doing when rousing the fundamentalist spirit. The censors traditionally like to enlist "decent people" as dupes in their censorship games. Question: What is your attitude to the spamming efforts of Dan Gannon? Ernst Zundel: I am not in direct touch with Dan Gannon and did not even know that he was spamming. Having been on the receiving end of spams, however, I would be the last person to advocate spamming. It is a childish act. Question: Are there any other comments or observations that you would like to add? Ernst Zundel: Just this. Come see for yourself. Make up your own mind. Don't take somebody else's word for what we say and do. . . " End of interview. Go have yourself a happy weekend. Ingrid Thought for the Day: "Our law teaches us that the wealth of the future will be according to the measure of the sacrifices of the past." =46rom "Gazeta de West," a Romanian Nationalist publication. ------------ END ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ From zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org Sun Jul 28 07:17:36 PDT 1996 Article: 53870 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!apollo.isisnet.com!thor.atcon.com!news.nstn.ca!newsflash.concordia.ca!newsfeed.pitt.edu!scramble.lm.com!news.math.psu.edu!news.cse.psu.edu!uwm.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!news.sgi.com!news.msfc.nasa.gov!newsfeed.internetmci.com!flesh.fly.net!anon.lcs.mit.edu!mail2news Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 07:38:25 -0700 From: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org (E. Zundel Repost) Cc: mail2news@myriad.alias.net Newsgroups: alt.fan.ernst-zundel,alt.revisionism,alt.conspiracy Followup-To: alt.fan.ernst-zundel,alt.revisionism Organization: The Jooooooooooooooooooish Cabal that Censors Everybody (tm) Subject: 960727: Interview with Internet Australia X-Original-Subject: ZGram - July 27, 1996 - "Interview with Internet Australia Sender: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org Message-ID: <199607278623.AABA294@infinity.c2.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Plug: Community ConneXion provides privacy on the Internet. http://www.c2.org/ X-Decency: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/b/botting.gary X-ZundeLooMirror: http://www.c2.org/~rich/Not_By_Me_Not_My_Views/rebuttal.html X-Zundel: http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/z/zundel-ernst/ X-Ingrid: http://www.webcom.com/~ina/ X-Ingrid-Really: ftp://ftp.eye.net/pub/nizkor/people/r/rimland.ingrid X-Remember: http://www.nizkor.org/ Complaints-To: mix-admin@anon.lcs.mit.edu Lines: 246 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.fan.ernst-zundel:2043 alt.revisionism:53870 alt.conspiracy:71618 The Zundelgrams are posted to alt.fan.ernst-zundel and alt.revisionism daily, unedited (after BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM....). The opinions expressed do not necessarily represent the views of the poster, who is not the author. See X-Headers for relevant URLs. A good place to start is http://www.nizkor.org/features/ or, if you're in Europe, ftp://nizkor.iam.uni-bonn.de/pub/nizkor/ I have no comment at this time. ------------ BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ July 27, 1996 Good Morning from the Zundelsite: I am very conscious of recording history with my ZGrams because the movement is so new and raw. For this reason, sometimes I send you information that you might get from other sources, just to hold things sequentially and to show how the True World Order is spreading globally. Below is an interview that Ernst gave about a week ago to Australia's largest Internet Magazine, Internet Australia. I am bringing it here for your perusal and edification. Question: As you explain, your site has been subjected to various attempts at censorship. Please outline the main challenges that the Zundelsite has faced. Ernst Zundel: Pressure was brought against our first server in California, which led to the abrupt cancellation of our website. The pressure came >from the two largest customers, both Jewish, who threatened the server that they would yank their accounts if he did not kick us off immediately. Of course this would never do in a grocery store! We had told these people exactly who we were and had been assured by this server company that they would never cancel anyone due to content. The company did not live up to that promise. We were notified by phone call five minutes before they pulled the plug on us. We were not even allowed to put up a link to tell our readers where they could find us or why we had been terminated. Our current server came under heavy pressure in January of this year right after we announced an electronic debate with a politically antagonistic website, Nizkor. Censorship was almost instantaneous. At first, the story that played in the traditional world media was that Compuserve was canceling news groups because of "concerns over pornography," and hints were dropped that websites would be next. Very quickly it became evident that the target was the Revisionist Zundelsite and that the censorship strategies came right out of the Simon Wiesenthal Center. We have been told informally that Telekom in Germany blocked 1500 customer sites at Web Communications solely in order to prevent German people from accessing the Zundelsite, which contains material relating to the Holocaust forbidden to be researched and debated in Germany. Very quickly, things became extremely uncomfortable for this new server as well. So far, he has stood firm against all pressure and even defied the German Telekom ban. Question: Various sources have mentioned Canada's anti-hate speech' laws. How does this affect the Zundelsite? Would it make the contents illegal? Ernst Zundel: We do not publish material that is hateful or illegal-certainly not in Canada. We are engaged in a legal and determined quest of researching and reporting truthful history as we find it. The most troublesome problems for us have come not from official sources but from the Internet terrorists, some of whom seem to be at it full time-anonymous people who have repeatedly tried to sabotage us by destroying our e-mail, copying and then altering it, redirecting it, quoting our material out of context, sending us megabytes of garbage and, worst of all, sending out press releases and news group posts using my name in various altered forms with nasty comments and distorted messages, some of them semi-pornographic. The idea is to demonize me and make me look like both a fool and fiend. This is a traditional tactic and was employed against me many times in the print media in the past 30 years. Question: The issue of trying to censor an online medium with local laws is somewhat difficult, as opponents of the CDA (Community Decency Act) in the USA pointed out. Does this also make it difficult for Canada's laws to suppress the Zundelsite? How about your overseas mirrors? Ernst Zundel: The spontaneous mirroring was a resounding success. It taught the world that there were technically competent censorship busters out there who would not tolerate special interests to dictate what could be posted on the Net. No one with a mirror site anywhere was criminally charged. We will know in a few weeks what the Canadian system has to say about this latest attempt at censorship of the Internet, especially the Zundelsite, because I face a defamation suit in civil court, which will be a back-door attempt at censorship and intimidation by using private parties who see themselves aggrieved. As of today, I have not been criminally charged in Canada for anything posted on my website, because I try very hard to comply with Canadian laws, even though my website is in the USA. I only located the site there to avoid hassles, not to contravene Canadian laws. So far, I was proven correct in this move. I expect at least an attempt at an interlocutory decree to prevent me from running my website. Question: The operator of Nizkor claims at his site to be opposed to online censorship laws, and says that he prefers to debate you in the open. Do you share this view? Do you believe that Nizkor has a right to express themselves too? Certainly. I am in favor of Nizkor or anyone else having the right to present their version of how they perceive history-be it the so-called "Holocaust," politically incorrect ideas in general, National Socialism in particular etc. etc. I only want that same right to present my viewpoint fairly, reasonably and honestly, not under constant threat of criminal prosecution. I do sometimes wish Nizkor would not be so abusive-insinuating motives which simply are not there but seem merely to mirror their own paranoia. Question: Nizkor also claim that debating each other on the Web is like shifting icebergs. Would you ever debate McVay in a more immediate forum such as Usenet or IRC? Ernst Zundel: I am amazed they still mention "debate". They have vehemently denounced the term and claim that a "debate" was our own invention. They claim they merely want to "link," so we will let them link. I will debate McVay in person anywhere anytime in public. I would like for McVay to submit in person to an interview on one of my radio or TV shows about his version of the Holocaust. I will gladly appear with him on other people's radio or TV shows to debate him in a civilized fashion. I will debate him on a university campus or in any other respectable public forum. I am not afraid of debate and would welcome a debate. I have asked for a debate on the Holocaust for two decades. Debate McVay or other Nizkor folks on Usenet or IRC? No. The issues before us are complex and serious and do not lend themselves to conduct such as Jamie McCarthy once described as a "party" where people might run around having fun "with lampshades on their heads." Millions of peoples' lives or their deaths are the issue here. People were hanged for "crimes" that were apparently never committed. For people who went through the war as I did as a child, Revisionism is very serious business. It's not a spitting contest. The newsgroups are unpleasant places where people are basically shouted down, character-assassinated, vilified and libeled-with little real "debating" taking place. Question: Some political groups seem to do nothing more than preach to the converted. Does the Zundelsite really convince people to support you? Ernst Zundel: Absolutely. You see, for the first time in 50+ years' worth of post-war vilification of the German people and nation, it is possible for many people to get to read and to reflect on an alternate point of view about Germany's role in recent history. The Z=FCndelsite was conceived as a convenient means for total newcomers to find out about our way of thinking. Ordinary mail is sometimes considered intrusive. People might resent receiving a newsletter, tape or booklet with unfamiliar political content. The Z=FCndelsite functions like a library. The public can inform themselves at their own choice and leisure. The "shelves" are there; people can choose to look at material or by-pass it if it offends them. This is still virgin territory, historically speaking. Especially young people are amazed that we are not a bunch of low-brow skinheads shouting racial slogans but rational people who offer a respectably body of very serious forensic, historical and scientific research and evidence that calls into question the traditional dogma of the Holocaust and related subjects. The Net is an efficient tool to get our viewpoint looked at or heard. We expose Revisionism to people we could not reach in any other way. A website is extremely economical. We save literally thousands of dollars per month while getting in touch with thousands of mainly young people the world over - youngsters of good mental caliber. Various sources have claimed that as many as half of standard Internet users are young, well-educated, upwardly mobile - in other words, potential future leaders. Question: I would expect that you receive a lot of abusive feedback. How do you deal with the flames? Do you reply to everyone? Ernst Zundel: You could not be more wrong. When we first started posting our version of history on the Z=FCndelsite, we received four hate mail letters for every letter that was positive. Now this is totally reversed. Almost all our mail is positive; a lot of it is actually emotional and often out-and-out ecstatic. We are amazed at the thoughtful, serious inquiries we constantly receive from university students and scholars from as far away as Malaysia and South Africa. Very serious Revisionist research is now going on all over the world-research that can be grounded, backed, bolstered and double-checked from documents downloaded from our website. The occasional hate mail letter is rare and usually contains some choice language with little content or rationale. We don't reply to hate mail and to spams. It is a waste of time. Question: Is the effort to regulate the flow of pornography on the Net analogous to the distribution of political material? What is common to the debate? Do you believe that the CDA (Community Decency Act) had an agenda to work against more than just pornography? Ernst Zundel: The answer is yes. You hit the nail right on the head. The fight against pornography has always been the cloak the tyrant likes to wear. There is NO common dimension to our Revisionist material and pornography. The ploy is very old, however. Traditionally, the enemies of freedom the world over have always lumped "hate literature" as they like to call it - I guess because they hate the truth that it contains! - and pornography together. In various police departments and customs offices in Canada we have so-called "Hate Literature and Pornography" sections to fix in people's minds the notion that the two terms are equally dirty - and interchangeable. The pairing of the terms is not coincidence. The claim that children will be hurt is not coincidence. It rouses the emotions. A psychological warfare technique is employed. The CDA (Community Decency Act) was rammed through US Congress in ways a similar law was never forced down people's throats regarding other media such as radio, TV or print. The enemies of freedom knew all too well what they were doing when rousing the fundamentalist spirit. The censors traditionally like to enlist "decent people" as dupes in their censorship games. Question: What is your attitude to the spamming efforts of Dan Gannon? Ernst Zundel: I am not in direct touch with Dan Gannon and did not even know that he was spamming. Having been on the receiving end of spams, however, I would be the last person to advocate spamming. It is a childish act. Question: Are there any other comments or observations that you would like to add? Ernst Zundel: Just this. Come see for yourself. Make up your own mind. Don't take somebody else's word for what we say and do. . . " End of interview. Go have yourself a happy weekend. Ingrid Thought for the Day: "Our law teaches us that the wealth of the future will be according to the measure of the sacrifices of the past." =46rom "Gazeta de West," a Romanian Nationalist publication. ------------ END ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ From zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org Sun Jul 28 16:30:50 PDT 1996 Article: 54013 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!nntp.teleport.com!netaxs.com!hunter.premier.net!news.cais.net!news.abs.net!ddsw1!news.mcs.net!nntp04.primenet.com!news.shkoo.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.asu.edu!ennfs.eas.asu.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!newsfeed.internetmci.com!flesh.fly.net!anon.lcs.mit.edu!mail2news Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 12:03:24 -0700 From: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org (E. Zundel Repost) Newsgroups: alt.fan.ernst-zundel,alt.revisionism,alt.conspiracy Followup-To: alt.fan.ernst-zundel,alt.revisionism Organization: The Jooooooooooooooooooish Cabal that Censors Everybody (tm) Subject: 960728: Desiderata X-Original-Subject: ZGram - July 28, 1996 - "Desiderata Sender: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org Message-ID: <199607281625.AABA362@infinity.c2.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Plug: Community ConneXion provides privacy on the Internet. http://www.c2.org/ X-Decency: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/b/botting.gary X-ZundeLooMirror: http://www.c2.org/~rich/Not_By_Me_Not_My_Views/rebuttal.html X-Zundel: http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/z/zundel-ernst/ X-Ingrid: http://www.webcom.com/~ina/ X-Ingrid-Really: ftp://ftp.eye.net/pub/nizkor/people/r/rimland.ingrid X-Remember: http://www.nizkor.org/ Complaints-To: mix-admin@anon.lcs.mit.edu Lines: 115 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.fan.ernst-zundel:2086 alt.revisionism:54013 alt.conspiracy:71884 The Zundelgrams are posted to alt.fan.ernst-zundel and alt.revisionism daily, unedited (after BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM....). The opinions expressed do not necessarily represent the views of the poster, who is not the author. See X-Headers for relevant URLs. A good place to start is http://www.nizkor.org/features/ or, if you're in Europe, ftp://nizkor.iam.uni-bonn.de/pub/nizkor/ Dear Matt Giwer: How could we possibly make it more clear that email sent to this address will NOT reach Ernst Zundel directly? Please give us some helpful suggestions. http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/ ------------ BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ July 28, 1996 Good Morning from the Zundelsite: This morning, I slept in because I had to heal myself from what I consider a betrayal from within our own ranks - an individual who for the second time in as many weeks has managed to hurt our cause. The first time happened when he took hold of my mailing list and started bombarding some pretty horrified people with missives. When I asked him to please refrain, his response was, in essence: "Anything goes." I don't think so, and I must say so. It is unfortunate. The second incident involves some pretty nasty comments apparently made to a highly gifted sixteen-year-old of another race who had done nothing worse than asserted his pride in his own race in response to one of those unwanted letters. We don't destroy; we build. And we don't pick on sixteen-year-olds, because a wrong done to a youngster of that age will never ever go away. Everywhere you look, nature tells you: "Only one can be the best." It does not tell you: "Only Aryans can be the best." That's why I am not a white supremacist, although some in the movement are. My dictum is: Let the best win, and we will all be the richer for it. For us to wish to be the best will not make us the best - we have to prove it to be true. In my opinion, we don't prove it by wounding a proud youngster of another race who wants the same we do. Now having said that, I know that I have made myself an enemy, and that is saddening to me. That's all I have to say about this matter - not knowing what else I can say. Not being in the mood, therefore, to shed my own wisdom on a wretched situation, I turn to a source that is better with words than I am. Below is one of the Desideratas which have given me much comfort in the past. I do not even know who wrote them, or what caused them to be written, but they are beautiful and don't wear thin from use: Go placidly amid the noise and haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence. As far as possible, without surrender, be on good terms with all persons. Speak your truth quietly and clearly, and listen to others, even the dull and ignorant; they, too, have their story. Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are a vexation to the spirit. If you compare yourself to others, you may become vain and bitter, for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself. Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans. Keep interest in your own career ever humble; it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time. Exercise caution in your business affairs, for the world is full of trickery. But let this not blind you to what virtue there is; many persons strive for high ideals, and everywhere life is full of heroism. Be yourself. Especially, do not feign affection. Neither be cynical about love, for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment, it is perennial as the grass. Take kindly the counsel of the years, gracefully surrendering the things of youth. Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune. Do not distress yourself with imaginings. Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness. Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself You are a child of the universe, no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be there. And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should. Therefore, be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be; and whatever your labors and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of life keep peace with your soul. With all its sham, drudgery and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. Ingrid Thought for the Day: "Mankind owes to the child the best it has to give." U.N. Declaration ------------ END ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ From zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org Tue Jul 30 09:08:19 PDT 1996 Article: 54365 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!op.net!netaxs.com!hunter.premier.net!news-res.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!nntp.coast.net!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!flesh.fly.net!anon.lcs.mit.edu!mail2news Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 04:52:52 -0700 From: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org (E. Zundel Repost) Newsgroups: alt.fan.ernst-zundel,alt.revisionism Organization: The Jooooooooooooooooooish Cabal that Censors Everybody (tm) Subject: 960729: X-Original-Subject: ZGram - July 29, 1996 - Censorship checkmated - for now! Sender: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org Message-ID: <199607296912.AABA1073@infinity.c2.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Plug: Community ConneXion provides privacy on the Internet. http://www.c2.org/ X-Decency: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/b/botting.gary X-ZundeLooMirror: http://www.c2.org/~rich/Not_By_Me_Not_My_Views/rebuttal.html X-Zundel: http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/z/zundel-ernst/ X-Ingrid: http://www.webcom.com/~ina/ X-Ingrid-Really: ftp://ftp.eye.net/pub/nizkor/people/r/rimland.ingrid X-Remember: http://www.nizkor.org/ Complaints-To: mix-admin@anon.lcs.mit.edu Lines: 140 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.fan.ernst-zundel:2174 alt.revisionism:54365 The Zundelgrams are posted to alt.fan.ernst-zundel and alt.revisionism daily, unedited (after BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM....). The opinions expressed do not necessarily represent the views of the poster, who is not the author. See X-Headers for relevant URLs. A good place to start is http://www.nizkor.org/features/ or, if you're in Europe, ftp://nizkor.iam.uni-bonn.de/pub/nizkor/ People born on July 29th: Dag Hammarskjold Owen Lattimore Ernst Reuter Shigemitsu Mamoru Benito Mussolini Don Marquis ------------ BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ July 29, 1996 Good Morning from the Zundelsite: This press release comes four days late, but it will still read sweet to those who have followed young Lemire's struggle to keep his own and five or six other websites from being axed by the Canadian Simon Wiesenthal Center. It was put out by Electronic Frontier Canada, part of a network of world-wide Censorship Busters, and goes under the title: "BC Gov't has no authority to regulate the 'Net." "David Jones, president of Electronic Frontier Canada, the nation's online civil liberties watchdog, says the recent remarks by the BC Attorney General may initially seem to have a certain common sense appeal, but in the end sound rather hollow. BC Attorney General, Mr. Ujjal Dosanjh, sent the news media into a frenzy last Friday when he announced that he had instructed his Task Force on Hate Crimes to investigate whether anything could be done about the spread of hate on the Internet. In a follow-up interview, he elaborated his three-pronged approach, saying the Task Force was to investigate: (1) whether complaints could be filed under the BC Human Rights Act, or the Canadian Human Rights Act, (2) whether complaints could be filed under the Criminal Code's so-called hate propaganda provisions (sections 318 and 319) (3) whether steps could be taken to regulate the Internet In the few days since the announcement, Electronic Frontier Canada has done a little investigating of its own. Here is just a sampling of what it has uncovered. (i) re: Human Rights Acts The BC Human Rights Act deals primarily with issues relating to discrimination in the context of employment, tenancy, and public facilities. According to Andrew Boudreau, Complaints Analyst, the BC Council of Human Rights has no authority over the Internet. Furthermore, since it started keeping records in 1984, the Council has initiated no hearings whatsoever dealing with the display of hateful emblems (e.g., swastikas), or hateful publications. The BC Press Council, according to Executive Secretary Gerald Porter, has on several occasions made it clear that it considers the BC Human Rights Act to be a seriously flawed piece of legislation that unreasonably infringes on the right to freedom of expression, freedom of the press, and so on. Some people speculate that the BC Council on Human Rights has purposely chosen to avoid hearings on these issues because Press Council lawyers are poised to take them to the BC Supreme Court and prove the Act unconstitutional. The Canadian Human Rights Act, while including a provision that enables the regulation of hateful messages delivered by automated telephone answering systems, also has no effective jurisdiction over the Internet, according to Harvey Goldberg, a Policy Director with the Canadian Human Rights Commission in Ottawa. (ii) re: filing criminal charges with the RCMP Sections 318 and 319 of the Criminal Code, place a very narrow and specific limitation on the fundamental right to freedom of expression. Only when hateful speech is so extreme that it actually `advocates genocide' or `incites hatred to such an extent that it will lead to a breach of the peace' is it criminal. In all other cases, Canadians enjoy the right to express their own thoughts, beliefs, and opinions, no matter who may disagree with them or be offended. According to Sgt. Arnie Ziegler, who is with the RCMP office in the small town of Oliver, B.C., there have been no complaints filed, no instructions >from the BC Attorney General's office, and there is no investigation into the promotion of hate on the Internet -- or anything else related to the hate propaganda provisions of the Criminal Code. With this in mind, it hardly seems right for Sol Littman of the Simon Wiesenthal Centre calls this small town of 5,000 residents ``the hate capital of Canada''. (iii) re: Internet regulation Regulating communication is not within the jurisdiction of the provincial government, and the CRTC has acknowledged on various occasions that it has no authority to regulate the Internet. (iv) re: BC Task Force on Hate Crimes Speaking for the `Hate-Motivated Activities Initiative', Senior Policy Analyst Jacqueline Nelson said that the general public often misunderstands what is meant by the term `hate crime'. "Calling people names is not illegal", she said, "we have had a problem with people were filing frivolous complaints". Given that all of his proposed avenues of dealing with so-called `hate on the Internet' seem to lead very quickly to dead ends, it will be interested to see how the BC Attorney General will proceed on this issue. ``To me'', says Jones, ``it seems nothing short of irresponsible to give people a false impression that the government can control how people choose to express themselves. I think it would be a serious mistake to encourage British Columbians to go to the trouble of filing formal complaints to control other people's expressions when those complaints are doomed to failure. It can only lead to a sense of frustration.'' ``It's time to get beyond the simple observation that hate is offensive'', says Jones. ``I challenge the BC Attorney General's office to come up with a specific example of a Web page on a BC computer that it considers illegal.'' Richard Rosenberg, EFC vice-president and computer science professor at UBC, echoed this sentiment in a letter he wrote to Attorney General Dosanjh written earlier this week, ``If there is sufficient evidence that material on a Web site violates the existing laws then charges should be laid. On the other hand, I do not think we should cavalierly dismiss speech that we find unpleasant, even racist, sexist, or hateful, as falling outside the protection of free speech.'' Nice victory, no? We'll see what happens next. Ingrid Thought for the Day: "An act repugnant to the Constitution is void." John Marshall (1755-1835) ------------ END ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ From zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org Tue Jul 30 20:37:02 PDT 1996 Article: 54463 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!hookup!chi-news.cic.net!nntp.coast.net!news.dacom.co.kr!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.uoregon.edu!news1.mpcs.com!anon.lcs.mit.edu!mail2news Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 17:26:31 -0700 From: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org (E. Zundel Repost) Newsgroups: alt.fan.ernst-zundel,alt.revisionism Organization: The Jooooooooooooooooooish Cabal that Censors Everybody (tm) Subject: 960730: Skinheads X-Original-Subject: ZGram - July 30, 1996 - "Skinheads Sender: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org Message-ID: <199607306952.AABA1373@infinity.c2.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Plug: Community ConneXion provides privacy on the Internet. http://www.c2.org/ X-Decency: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/b/botting.gary X-ZundeLooMirror: http://www.c2.org/~rich/Not_By_Me_Not_My_Views/rebuttal.html X-Zundel: http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/z/zundel-ernst/ X-Ingrid: http://www.webcom.com/~ina/ X-Ingrid-Really: ftp://ftp.eye.net/pub/nizkor/people/r/rimland.ingrid X-Remember: http://www.nizkor.org/ Complaints-To: mix-admin@anon.lcs.mit.edu Lines: 109 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.fan.ernst-zundel:2192 alt.revisionism:54463 The Zundelgrams are posted to alt.fan.ernst-zundel and alt.revisionism daily, unedited (after BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM....). The opinions expressed do not necessarily represent the views of the poster, who is not the author. See X-Headers for relevant URLs. A good place to start is http://www.nizkor.org/features/ or, if you're in Europe, ftp://nizkor.iam.uni-bonn.de/pub/nizkor/ We have no comment at this time. ------------ BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ July 30, 1996 Good Morning from the Zundelsite: Time and again it happens that both journalists and lay people alike assume that those of us who invest time, energy and money into what we call The True World Order think that the Movement is composed of skinheads. Nothing could be farther from the truth. I have never talked to one. I do not know a single one by name. The closest I would come to what you call a "skinhead" is one who told me that he was a skinhead once, and that is Reuben Logsdon, webmaster of the Aryan Crusader webpage. I have known Reuben electronically for just about a year. I know few people who are nicer, more polite, more punctual and helpful. If anybody knows Reuben from a different side, let him speak up or hold his peace forever after. I despise the skinheads - an artificially created phenomenon concocted by British capitalists out to sidetrack and financially kill and exploit racially conscious young activists. I have nothing in common with skinheads. Milton Kleim who is still young enough to think the skinheads ARE the Movement and who decided to quit everything and everybody in disgust, wrote thusly, brought to you here in somewhat shortened form: ". . . The skinhead culture, as a social unit, is a hideous blot upon the honor of the Aryan Race. While there are isolated individuals of high character, rational mind, and personal accomplishment who identify as skins, the paradigm (if it can be called that) of the skinhead scene represents nothing noble. Unrestrained inebriation, senseless violence with no strategic direction, and infantile "us/them" infighting are the endemic traits of the skinhead "movement." It is alleged the skinhead culture is a neo-Viking warrior culture, prepared and ready for action to achieve the 14 Words. Yeah, right! What has the skinhead culture done to advance Aryan survival? By spray painting Swastikas? In their juvenile stupidity, most "brave" skins risk felony charges with no demonstrable, favorable results for our People's salvation. These persons are not heroes; they are contemptible fools. The false image of the skinhead scene is a working-class youth culture of proud White folk celebrating their heritage, generated as a rebellion against the evils of the present order. However, I, a 25-year old son of a working class family who grew up in the Sacramento area and shared the same type disharmonic social environment most skins did, need neither beer nor violence nor cultic organizations to almost singlehandedly achieve goals on a massive scale. Why am I so different? Perhaps being from a long line of German _bauern_ instilled me with the traditions of _true_ Aryan culture, not an artificial, cosmopolitan pseudo-Aryan culture. I am a lonely standard-bearer of what Third Reich-era Germans called _Kultur_, as opposed to the _Zivilisation_ of the concrete deserts from which the skinhead anti-culture arose. The latter is a hodge-podge of unholistic social elements fused together of necessity following the collapse of the social structure of the West . . . ." Speaking of the Swastika, Kleim then goes on to say it is ". . . representative of both refined strength and intricate beauty. How few skins understand its significance and sacredness. It has been made into a profane scrawling by those neither comprehending its meaning nor deserving of wearing it. The Aryan who is truly strong has the ability to be gentle and compassionate. The brutal existence of the skinhead culture is incompatible with the genuine symbolism of the Swastika. Most skins attempt to emulate the malevolent spawn of Hollywood cinema, _not_ the ideals of the SS, whose heroic men embraced balanced responsibility: evolved "higher men" of duty, restraint, commitment, and prudence. The youth of a People is its tomorrow. If the skinheads are our tomorrow, then our Race has no future. . . " Wherever you are, whatever you do, Milton Kleim - you write with the quill of an angel. Ingrid Thought for the Day: "Loyalty to a petrified opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a human soul." Mark Twain ------------ END ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ From zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org Wed Jul 31 14:44:56 PDT 1996 Article: 2192 of alt.fan.ernst-zundel Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!hookup!chi-news.cic.net!nntp.coast.net!news.dacom.co.kr!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.uoregon.edu!news1.mpcs.com!anon.lcs.mit.edu!mail2news Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 17:26:31 -0700 From: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org (E. Zundel Repost) Newsgroups: alt.fan.ernst-zundel,alt.revisionism Organization: The Jooooooooooooooooooish Cabal that Censors Everybody (tm) Subject: 960730: Skinheads X-Original-Subject: ZGram - July 30, 1996 - "Skinheads Sender: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org Message-ID: <199607306952.AABA1373@infinity.c2.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Plug: Community ConneXion provides privacy on the Internet. http://www.c2.org/ X-Decency: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/b/botting.gary X-ZundeLooMirror: http://www.c2.org/~rich/Not_By_Me_Not_My_Views/rebuttal.html X-Zundel: http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/z/zundel-ernst/ X-Ingrid: http://www.webcom.com/~ina/ X-Ingrid-Really: ftp://ftp.eye.net/pub/nizkor/people/r/rimland.ingrid X-Remember: http://www.nizkor.org/ Complaints-To: mix-admin@anon.lcs.mit.edu Lines: 109 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.fan.ernst-zundel:2192 alt.revisionism:54463 The Zundelgrams are posted to alt.fan.ernst-zundel and alt.revisionism daily, unedited (after BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM....). The opinions expressed do not necessarily represent the views of the poster, who is not the author. See X-Headers for relevant URLs. A good place to start is http://www.nizkor.org/features/ or, if you're in Europe, ftp://nizkor.iam.uni-bonn.de/pub/nizkor/ We have no comment at this time. ------------ BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ July 30, 1996 Good Morning from the Zundelsite: Time and again it happens that both journalists and lay people alike assume that those of us who invest time, energy and money into what we call The True World Order think that the Movement is composed of skinheads. Nothing could be farther from the truth. I have never talked to one. I do not know a single one by name. The closest I would come to what you call a "skinhead" is one who told me that he was a skinhead once, and that is Reuben Logsdon, webmaster of the Aryan Crusader webpage. I have known Reuben electronically for just about a year. I know few people who are nicer, more polite, more punctual and helpful. If anybody knows Reuben from a different side, let him speak up or hold his peace forever after. I despise the skinheads - an artificially created phenomenon concocted by British capitalists out to sidetrack and financially kill and exploit racially conscious young activists. I have nothing in common with skinheads. Milton Kleim who is still young enough to think the skinheads ARE the Movement and who decided to quit everything and everybody in disgust, wrote thusly, brought to you here in somewhat shortened form: ". . . The skinhead culture, as a social unit, is a hideous blot upon the honor of the Aryan Race. While there are isolated individuals of high character, rational mind, and personal accomplishment who identify as skins, the paradigm (if it can be called that) of the skinhead scene represents nothing noble. Unrestrained inebriation, senseless violence with no strategic direction, and infantile "us/them" infighting are the endemic traits of the skinhead "movement." It is alleged the skinhead culture is a neo-Viking warrior culture, prepared and ready for action to achieve the 14 Words. Yeah, right! What has the skinhead culture done to advance Aryan survival? By spray painting Swastikas? In their juvenile stupidity, most "brave" skins risk felony charges with no demonstrable, favorable results for our People's salvation. These persons are not heroes; they are contemptible fools. The false image of the skinhead scene is a working-class youth culture of proud White folk celebrating their heritage, generated as a rebellion against the evils of the present order. However, I, a 25-year old son of a working class family who grew up in the Sacramento area and shared the same type disharmonic social environment most skins did, need neither beer nor violence nor cultic organizations to almost singlehandedly achieve goals on a massive scale. Why am I so different? Perhaps being from a long line of German _bauern_ instilled me with the traditions of _true_ Aryan culture, not an artificial, cosmopolitan pseudo-Aryan culture. I am a lonely standard-bearer of what Third Reich-era Germans called _Kultur_, as opposed to the _Zivilisation_ of the concrete deserts from which the skinhead anti-culture arose. The latter is a hodge-podge of unholistic social elements fused together of necessity following the collapse of the social structure of the West . . . ." Speaking of the Swastika, Kleim then goes on to say it is ". . . representative of both refined strength and intricate beauty. How few skins understand its significance and sacredness. It has been made into a profane scrawling by those neither comprehending its meaning nor deserving of wearing it. The Aryan who is truly strong has the ability to be gentle and compassionate. The brutal existence of the skinhead culture is incompatible with the genuine symbolism of the Swastika. Most skins attempt to emulate the malevolent spawn of Hollywood cinema, _not_ the ideals of the SS, whose heroic men embraced balanced responsibility: evolved "higher men" of duty, restraint, commitment, and prudence. The youth of a People is its tomorrow. If the skinheads are our tomorrow, then our Race has no future. . . " Wherever you are, whatever you do, Milton Kleim - you write with the quill of an angel. Ingrid Thought for the Day: "Loyalty to a petrified opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a human soul." Mark Twain ------------ END ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------

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