The Nizkor Project: Remembering the Holocaust (Shoah)

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From t08o@unb.ca Sun Sep  1 13:23:02 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.censorship,alt.revisionism,alt.politics.white-power,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: Was Gerhard Lauck Framed By Anti-Racists?
Date: Sun, 01 Sep 1996 13:53:55 -0300
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Scott Erb wrote:

> I'm an ACLU member and a firm believer of freedom of speech in this country.
> However, I'm not a German, and I understand why Germany has tough laws
> against neo-Nazi propaganda, and how it is spread.  Whenever a U.S. citizen
> violates the laws of another country, and leaves this country, he or she is
> risking their freedom.  We can't very well impose American laws on the rest
> of the world!



No, but some of your representatives sure try like hell to do just that.



--
Keith Morrison
t08o@Unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Sun Sep  1 13:42:18 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
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Subject: Re: Interesting observation
Date: Sun, 01 Sep 1996 14:10:26 -0300
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Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
>         The holohuggers here are very much believers in witches, demons, gods,
> demons and all the rest.
> 
>         No wonder they believe in the holohuggercaust.

Oh, Liar-Boy, I don't think so.  I can't speak for the rest but I'm
agnostic.  I know that your literacy is somewhere around that exhibited
by the common garden slug, but do try and concentrate.  Please feel free
to quote the post where I claimed *I* believed in the devil, witches, demons
and the rest.

Not that I don't believe in evil.  Given your propensity to spout hateful
rhetoric and lie one is forced to admit the existance of evil in human form.
Of course evil is often confused with terminal stupidity, thus I may be
mistaken in this case.

By the by, Liar, when are you going to get around to replying to my accusation
that you lied about deleting part of a post of mine?  I'll wait because I'm
patient and the longer you try and pretend you didn't do it the more you
look like the jerk you are.

Have a nice day, Liar.

--
keith Morrison
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From: Keith Morrison 
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Scott Erb wrote:

> I'm an ACLU member and a firm believer of freedom of speech in this country.
> However, I'm not a German, and I understand why Germany has tough laws
> against neo-Nazi propaganda, and how it is spread.  Whenever a U.S. citizen
> violates the laws of another country, and leaves this country, he or she is
> risking their freedom.  We can't very well impose American laws on the rest
> of the world!



No, but some of your representatives sure try like hell to do just that.



--
Keith Morrison
t08o@Unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Sun Sep  1 13:42:19 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: World's Sick of the Holocaust
Date: Sun, 01 Sep 1996 14:00:32 -0300
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tom moran wrote:
> 
> bob whitaker  wrote:
> 
> >    AMEN, BROTHER!
> >    Actually, I heard Elie Wiesel say on TV:  "People are tired
> >of the Holocaust."
> >    Does that make Elie Wiesel A Nazi Who Wants To Kill Six
> >Million Jews?
> >    Boy, the Politically Correct types HATE to hear this!  The
> >Holocaust is about all they got left!
> 
>         I once heard Elie Wiesel, prolific writer of Holocaust tales,
> say "Everything I ever wrote was for Israel".

You also heard that iron was an amphibole and that there was *no*
*possible*way* 200 million trees could be planted in Israel over
a period of 90 years.

That doesn't say much for your auditory skills.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@Unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Sun Sep  1 13:42:20 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: "Remember the Children"
Date: Sun, 01 Sep 1996 16:12:00 -0300
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Laurinda Stryker wrote:
> 
> Mr. Moran: Now I'm really confused.  You say that we know what 'the
> majority' of Israelis support, based on election returns, but then say
> that we can't know what the election results actually were because the
> information comes from Jews.  This seems a bit contradictory to me.
> If we can't trust the media's reports, then for all we know, Netanyahu
> was resoundingly defeated.  Hmmmm.

Ms Stryker:

You have made the common mistake of believing that most normal people can
write an internally-consistent statement and then assuming that Tom Moran
is a normal person.  These two statements are actually mutually exclusive.

Tom Moran cannot write an internally-consistent statement of more than three
words.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Sun Sep  1 14:37:53 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
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Subject: Re: Spielberg Can Afford It!
Date: Sun, 01 Sep 1996 13:49:10 -0300
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Stig wrote:

> Hardly comparable.  NASA and PBS carry on ongoing projects, discovering
> and presenting NEW things - with often considerable private support, at
> least in the latter case.  The Holocaust is one of the most thoroughly
> archived and documented historical events, and no major tax dollars
> should be put out to wrap old news in fancy new wrappings so a
> multimillionaire mogul can get a bit of an ego stroke.  Let the Shoah
> crew get corporate backing for their efforts, or let the millionaires
> who want to see it happen pay for it.

Very good.  Now would you please inform the deniers about all this
archived and documented evidence?  You see, if people like them
were not around there would be no need for Spielberg's project.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@Unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Sun Sep  1 15:08:46 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: The Presence here of Non-jewish Holohuggers
Date: Sun, 01 Sep 1996 14:44:32 -0300
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william c anderson wrote:
> 
> Gord McFee (gmcfee@ibm.net) wrote:
> : In message <501rfh$4tc@lendl.cc.emory.edu> - libwca@curly.cc.emory.edu
> 
> : :>YES!  I made the A-team!  Alright!
> :
> : Bill, I hate to ruin your fun, but please nore who it was who selected the
> : A-Team.  };->
> 
> Oh, you're just jealous, McFeeStein.  Don't think I don't remember
> your machinations during our secret midnight conclaves, trying to
> keep members of the Hibernian Occupation Government off the A-team.
> We all know it was you who nixed the proposal to build a luxury condo
> in Glasgow.
> 
> In your face, McFeeStein!  HOG is here to stay, and soon we will
> teach you pathetic ZOG wretches how to REALLY oppress the Noble
> Aryan Race!

Bah, HOG is but a mere division of OHOG (Outer Herbrides Occupational
Government).  Those damn highlanders get a wee bit too upitty if you
don't keep a tight reign on them.

Oh and OHOG would like to announce the formation of our latest division,
the Aryan Racial Traitors Occupational Government.  ARTOG will be based
at the new $3 billion dollar secret underground base at Skydome.  The 
entrance is located under second base.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


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From: Keith Morrison 
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Stig wrote:

> Hardly comparable.  NASA and PBS carry on ongoing projects, discovering
> and presenting NEW things - with often considerable private support, at
> least in the latter case.  The Holocaust is one of the most thoroughly
> archived and documented historical events, and no major tax dollars
> should be put out to wrap old news in fancy new wrappings so a
> multimillionaire mogul can get a bit of an ego stroke.  Let the Shoah
> crew get corporate backing for their efforts, or let the millionaires
> who want to see it happen pay for it.

Very good.  Now would you please inform the deniers about all this
archived and documented evidence?  You see, if people like them
were not around there would be no need for Spielberg's project.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@Unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Mon Sep  2 10:25:12 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe,alt.politics.white-power,alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Whites Created Everything
Date: Mon, 02 Sep 1996 10:43:36 -0300
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Ourobouros wrote:

> Reader's Digest did an article a few years ago on it.  Look for
> information
> concerning the Wusun dynasty for "Scandinavian" mummies in China.  The
> Reader's Digest published a few photographs of these mummies.  I don't
> remember the issue number but I'm sure if you have the motivation you
> could find out from them (Reader's Digest).

Oh ys, Reader's Digest, primary source for anthropologists and historians
worldwide.

How about you telling us exactly when this "Wusun" dynasty ruled China?
I don't seem to recall that on the list.

> To re-iterate; look for information concerning the Wusun dynasty of China.
> The Wusun dynasty is the most blatant of non-yellow rulers over China.
> There are other discrepancies as well, for example, how did the (now
> extinct) Indo-European language, known as Tocharian, become
> dominant in East China for x centuries.
> 
> BTW, Ramesses II's mummy has blond hair.  Check any picture of his
> mummy.

Ramses II, at least what is left of him and from the photos I've seen,
has gray/white hair, relatively common amongst older people all over the
world and given the length of his reign, quite expected.

Do try sticking to things you understand.

Oh, by the by, the description of the Ramses II mummy in Cairo makes
a point about its prominent nose and massive jaw.  Now, if I understand
Aryan Racial Science (tm) correctly, that makes him either Jewish,
African or a combination of the two.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@Unb.ca


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From: Keith Morrison 
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Subject: Re: Whites Created Everything
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Ourobouros wrote:

> Reader's Digest did an article a few years ago on it.  Look for
> information
> concerning the Wusun dynasty for "Scandinavian" mummies in China.  The
> Reader's Digest published a few photographs of these mummies.  I don't
> remember the issue number but I'm sure if you have the motivation you
> could find out from them (Reader's Digest).

Oh ys, Reader's Digest, primary source for anthropologists and historians
worldwide.

How about you telling us exactly when this "Wusun" dynasty ruled China?
I don't seem to recall that on the list.

> To re-iterate; look for information concerning the Wusun dynasty of China.
> The Wusun dynasty is the most blatant of non-yellow rulers over China.
> There are other discrepancies as well, for example, how did the (now
> extinct) Indo-European language, known as Tocharian, become
> dominant in East China for x centuries.
> 
> BTW, Ramesses II's mummy has blond hair.  Check any picture of his
> mummy.

Ramses II, at least what is left of him and from the photos I've seen,
has gray/white hair, relatively common amongst older people all over the
world and given the length of his reign, quite expected.

Do try sticking to things you understand.

Oh, by the by, the description of the Ramses II mummy in Cairo makes
a point about its prominent nose and massive jaw.  Now, if I understand
Aryan Racial Science (tm) correctly, that makes him either Jewish,
African or a combination of the two.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@Unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Mon Sep  2 18:53:43 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
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Subject: Re: The Sinking McVay - down, down, down
Date: Mon, 02 Sep 1996 19:21:39 -0300
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tom moran wrote:

> >>     Moran had posted "What is "trolling"?
> >>
> >>     "I see a lot of dubbing of 'troller' or 'trolling' out here. What
> >> does that mean?
> >
> >A fair question, to which Ken McVay gave various clever, subtle, and
> >educational responses -- and some not-so-subtle responses.  After
> >recounting these answers, Tom Moran wrote:
> >
> >>     So here we have McVay, using little sexual innuendos to attack
> >> his opponents.
> >
> >Unbelievable.
> >
> >He still doesn't get it.
> >
> >Just incredible.
> >
> >I will try again to explain to Mr. Moran.
> >
> >Mr. Moran -- you are a sexual Pervect, you play dice with gangsters,
> >you cheat on your state income tax, and you fraternize with known
> >haberdashers.  All this has been proven many times in this forum.
> >It's all available on the web of course.  Your failure to respond to
> >any of it is simply admission of your own guilt.  How do you respond
> >to this?
> 
>         Thank you, Jamie McCarthy, co-Webmaster of Nizkor, the anti-hate
> "Holocaust Educational Resource" web page, for your public endorsement
> of record for Nizkor Webmaster Ken McVay's public allegation that
> Moran's sister is a hooker.

Trolling trolling
Over the usenet too
With words so big and brain so small
Tom ain't got a clue.

--
Keith Morrison
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From t08o@unb.ca Mon Sep  2 20:59:42 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: The Presence here of Non-jewish Holohuggers
Date: Mon, 02 Sep 1996 19:27:40 -0300
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william c anderson wrote:
> 
> Keith Morrison (t08o@unb.ca) wrote:
> 
> : Oh and OHOG would like to announce the formation of our latest division,
> : the Aryan Racial Traitors Occupational Government.  ARTOG will be based
> : at the new $3 billion dollar secret underground base at Skydome.  The
> : entrance is located under second base.
> 
> Oh, sure--tell everybody.  Now you'll have Ken Griffey Jr. signing
> autographs in your Secret Laboratory.

No, Griffey isn't due in until next May.  This month Paul Molitor,
Roberto Alomar and Dave Winfield are in.

(Autographs are $3.50 plus signing away your soul to ARTOG.)


From t08o@unb.ca Mon Sep  2 20:59:43 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
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Subject: Re: Revisionist final exam
Date: Mon, 02 Sep 1996 19:29:54 -0300
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Richard J. Green wrote:

> >>analysis of the relationhip beteween racism and totalitarianism in
> >>Hitler's ideology snipped]
> 
> >Fuckhead.
> 
> I see that Skippy is a man of letters.

Just the eight of them.


From t08o@unb.ca Tue Sep  3 20:10:27 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Chutzpa = E X A G G E R A T I O N
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 18:28:47 -0300
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tom moran wrote:
> 
> yawen@enter.net (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote:
> 
> >>   tm@pacificnet.net (tom moran) writes:
> >
> >
> >>      If the machinations of Jewish innovative brillance were true, we
> >>  should expect it to stand out here in the U.S., like Henry Ford, Tommy
> >>  Edison, Bill Gates and the rest.
> >
> >       How many American Jews have won the Nobel Prize in the sciences,
> >l'il tommy?
> 
>         I don't know. But they all have European names, mostly German.
> Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

Just out of curiousity, I examined a sample of the names of the people
who post here.

Van Alstine
Morrison
McVay
Giwer
Anderson
Harmon
Mittelman
Rosenberg
Beaulieu
Curtis
Krieberg

Amazingly enough, all have names of European origin!  Then I checked
out NBA players.

Irving
Jordon
Rodman
Barkely
Thomas
O'Neill

Once again, a surprising number of European names!

Of course, Tom Moran, absolutely clueless as he is would never suspect
that a North American having a European name is not exactly unique.  Or
that of North Americans of Eurpean ancestory just under 25% should have
a name that is either German or once was German.

--
keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Tue Sep  3 20:10:27 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Always believe Russina Sources
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 18:40:56 -0300
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Matt Giwer wrote:

> >>Then there's of course human lampshades,
> 
> >    Buzzer there.  Found at Buchenwald by the Americans, confirmed by an
> >American army pathology laboratory as tanned human skin.
> 
>         In fact confirmed as goatskin and even as imitation leather, as you
> know.  But they can not be retested, they vanished just like all the
> rest of the physical "evidence."

Goatskin and imitation leather with tattoos?  Obviously goat herders
with a lot of time on their hands.  Maybe they had 163 IQs, "retired" at
46 and lived a little too long with their goats.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Tue Sep  3 20:10:28 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.censorship,alt.revisionism,alt.politics.white-power,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: Was Gerhard Lauck Framed By Anti-Racists?
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 18:16:42 -0300
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Matt Giwer wrote:

>         A minor problem is the laws against speech and the press are a cause
> for revolution.  Should Germans ever have the balls for it, I will do
> what I can to get them the guns.

That reminds me, Oh Gonadless One, I'm still waiting for you to gather up the
miniscule amount of courage you have to answer the following questions:

1.  Why did you cut out part of one of my posts and then claim you didn't
   do it despite the fact anyone with two neurons saw that you did?

2.  What hominid averaged seven feet in height?

3.  How many bones compose the skull and pelvis?

4.  How many bones does _Gray's Anatomy_ (which *you* mentioned) say
   there are in the skull?

(The 1995 reprint of the First Edition, page 4 and page 19 for starters)
  
--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


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From: Keith Morrison 
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Subject: Re: It's Lazarus risen, sait Tom Bolyn
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 18:09:44 -0300
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Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 02 Sep 1996 16:26:08 +0000, Laurinda Stryker
>  wrote:
> 
> >Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
> >
> 
> >>         It is amazing how many people have sworn Tereseinstadt was a show camp
> >> that was later exterminated.
> 
> >How many have sworn that, Mr. Giwer?  Who are they?  Come on, give us
> >references: we want to be amazed, too.
> 
> > 
> 
> >Laurinda Stryker
> 
>         Read the frigging NG for further details.
> 
>         I no longer go over old info.  It is a waste of time.
> You re making yourself a waste of time.
> 
>         Research it.

Translation from the Giwerese:

I have no idea what I am talking about so I will try and sidestep
the issue again.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Wed Sep  4 07:06:03 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Ausrotten and the only good Indian is a dead Indian
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 00:16:02 -0300
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Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
> On 30 Aug 1996 14:17:06 GMT, libwca@larry.cc.emory.edu (william c
> anderson) wrote:
> 
> >Matt  Giwer (mgiwer@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
> 
> >:      Your friend is an idiot.
> 
> >Boy, the evidence for Kurt Stele's thesis that deniers never, ever
> >call people names just continues to mount.  How could I ever have
> >doubted him?
> 
>         It is an accurate description for some who believes in the devil.  You
> too?

Excuse me, please indicate where I said that she believed in the Devil.  I
said she believed in witchces, ie magic.  I don't recall mentioning any cloven-
hooved denizen of Hell being a part of her belief system.  In fact, she
doesn't believe in the Devil in the Christian sense.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


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From: Keith Morrison 
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Subject: Re: Was Gerhard Lauck Framed By Anti-Racists?
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Matt Giwer wrote:

>         A minor problem is the laws against speech and the press are a cause
> for revolution.  Should Germans ever have the balls for it, I will do
> what I can to get them the guns.

That reminds me, Oh Gonadless One, I'm still waiting for you to gather up the
miniscule amount of courage you have to answer the following questions:

1.  Why did you cut out part of one of my posts and then claim you didn't
   do it despite the fact anyone with two neurons saw that you did?

2.  What hominid averaged seven feet in height?

3.  How many bones compose the skull and pelvis?

4.  How many bones does _Gray's Anatomy_ (which *you* mentioned) say
   there are in the skull?

(The 1995 reprint of the First Edition, page 4 and page 19 for starters)
  
--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


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From: Keith Morrison 
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Subject: Re: Was Gerhard Lauck Framed By Anti-Racists?
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Matt Giwer wrote:

>         A minor problem is the laws against speech and the press are a cause
> for revolution.  Should Germans ever have the balls for it, I will do
> what I can to get them the guns.

That reminds me, Oh Gonadless One, I'm still waiting for you to gather up the
miniscule amount of courage you have to answer the following questions:

1.  Why did you cut out part of one of my posts and then claim you didn't
   do it despite the fact anyone with two neurons saw that you did?

2.  What hominid averaged seven feet in height?

3.  How many bones compose the skull and pelvis?

4.  How many bones does _Gray's Anatomy_ (which *you* mentioned) say
   there are in the skull?

(The 1995 reprint of the First Edition, page 4 and page 19 for starters)
  
--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


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From: Keith Morrison 
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Subject: Re: Was Gerhard Lauck Framed By Anti-Racists?
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Matt Giwer wrote:

>         A minor problem is the laws against speech and the press are a cause
> for revolution.  Should Germans ever have the balls for it, I will do
> what I can to get them the guns.

That reminds me, Oh Gonadless One, I'm still waiting for you to gather up the
miniscule amount of courage you have to answer the following questions:

1.  Why did you cut out part of one of my posts and then claim you didn't
   do it despite the fact anyone with two neurons saw that you did?

2.  What hominid averaged seven feet in height?

3.  How many bones compose the skull and pelvis?

4.  How many bones does _Gray's Anatomy_ (which *you* mentioned) say
   there are in the skull?

(The 1995 reprint of the First Edition, page 4 and page 19 for starters)
  
--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


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Subject: Re: Ausrotten and the only good Indian is a dead Indian
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Danny Mittleman wrote:
> 
>     We have below here a summary of the Matt Giwer philosphy of the world.
>     To sum:  "Anyone who doesn't wee the world exactly as Matt Giwer sees it
>     is an idiot."  This philosophy works very well as all questions are
>     answered by it.  And as a further bonus, since no one sees the world
>     exactly as Matt Giwer sees it, everone is an idiot.  Except for Matt
>     Giwer.  To wit:
> 
> In article <50js92$nka@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com>, mgiwer@ix.netcom.com (Matt  Giwer) writes...
> >
> >       I had to break the truth to you slowly.
> >
> >       Anyone who identifies with anything that is without rational
> >foundation is an idiot.  That includes Christians, Moslems and Jews.
> >They are all idiots.  But you know that.
> >
> >       Try getting over it.  There is no god(s), period.  Therefore there is
> >no religion.  Therefore there is nothing of interest that is in any
> >manner related to anything like it.
> >
> >       Is this too hard for your to grasp?
> >
> >       Anyone who hung on to any religion for any reason and was persecuted
> >for it was simply an idiot.  Anyone who hangs on to any religion today
> >is an idiot.
> >
> >       That means that all Christians, Jews and Moslems among many others are
> >idiots.  All of them.
> >
> >       Why do you have such a problem grasping this?  Are you a god believing
> >idiot?
> >
> >       And yes, one can be Jewish by birth because of a man made rule.  A man
> >made rule has of tribal membership has no more value than any other
> >man made rule.  Jewish by birth has no greater merit than a rule
> >against jaywalking.
> >
> >       It is truly laughable to see all the committed Jews and those
> >committed to Jews supporting man made rules from thousands of years
> >ago as though they were something more interesting that residency
> >rules for voting.
> >
> >       What is a jew and where do you vote are of equal value and importance.
> 
>     PS: Giwer gives us atheists a bad name.  I wish he would go find his
>     own non-religion.

Us agnostics are not to happy about him either.

What if we start a new religion, Giwerology?  If we claim that Giwer is
the chief religious figure he will, by definition, cease to exist.  What's
more, he will never have existed so all that irritation over the past year
will simply vanish from the collective memory.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@Unb.ca


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tom moran wrote:

> >>If you're implying that our retaliatory strikes have some political
> >>considerations, it might make sense if Clinton were 20 points behind
> >>rather than 20 points ahead.
> >
> >Are you serious?  A president prepared to go to war just so he can get
> >elected?  Get real.  Not even in America.
> >
> >Boz
> 
>         Who knows if this may be true. Yet the newspapers are carrying
> this theme.
>         They carry the theme that the candidates should do this or that
> to curry the Jewish vote.
>         The Jews make up only two percent or less of the American
> population so I wonder what they're talking about.

Oh no, Tom Moran is definetly *NOT* obsessed with Jews.  No way.

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william c anderson wrote:
> 
> : On Tue, 03 Sep 1996 11:59:26 GMT, mgiwer@ix.netcom.com (Matt  Giwer)
> : wrote:
> :
> : >     JewRasic Park
> 
> Anybody want to file this away against the next time Matt claims he's
> not an antisemite?

Been there, done that.

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tom moran wrote:
> 
> dmittleman@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu (Danny Mittleman) wrote:
> 
> >    So, ah, Tommy...  does your sister like to go 
> >    fishing?  
> >
> >                         daniel david mittleman
> 
>         No, I don't know what you mean. Do you have the nerve to come
> right out and explain what you mean? Don't beat around the bush. Just
> come out and say it, "Like a 'man'".

This boy is truly sad.

Tell you what, Moran, go ask your friend Giwer.  He likes Python.  He'll
explain it to you.

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Matt Giwer wrote:

>         So what is your problem?  No balls?

Before making comments about other people's gonads Mr Giwer should take a
look in his own shorts to see if he has the equipment to answer the
following questions:

1. What hominid averaged seven feet tall?

2. How many bones does _Gray's Anatomy_ say form the skull and pelvis?

3. Why did he excise part of one of my posts and then claim he didn't
   do it when any moron could have seen that he did?

4. When was the term "United Nations" first used?

5. Where was the Cambodian embassy in the US during the Khmer Rouge
   regime?

6. How did Raoul Wallenberg become a major contributor to the USHMM?

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Matt Giwer wrote:

> >Do you really think a violent revolution is called for because of minor laws
> >limiting certain types of public expression?
> 
>         Who is foolish enough to prioritize rights?  You?  Again, prudence
> dictates attempting a nonviolent means first.  But also to repeat, all
> rights are equal, the deprivation of any one of them is a killing
> offense.

Indeed.  What do you make of the right of governments to have nuclear weapons
while individual citizens are not allowed to?

If all rights are absolutely equal, by what right do you have to deprive
others of their right to live?  You have denied them one of their rights,
therefore I assume you will happily stand still while their relatives gun
you down.

(All those, unlike Matt, who can see a circular argument starting can
carry on by themselves.)

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Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 03 Sep 1996 18:16:42 -0300, Keith Morrison 
> wrote:
> 
> >Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
> >>         A minor problem is the laws against speech and the press are a cause
> >> for revolution.  Should Germans ever have the balls for it, I will do
> >> what I can to get them the guns.
> 
> >That reminds me, Oh Gonadless One, I'm still waiting for you to gather up the
> >miniscule amount of courage you have to answer the following questions:
> 
> >1.  Why did you cut out part of one of my posts and then claim you didn't
> >   do it despite the fact anyone with two neurons saw that you did?
> 
> >2.  What hominid averaged seven feet in height?
> 
> >3.  How many bones compose the skull and pelvis?
> 
> >4.  How many bones does _Gray's Anatomy_ (which *you* mentioned) say
> >   there are in the skull?
> 
> >(The 1995 reprint of the First Edition, page 4 and page 19 for starters)
> 
>         I will see your claims and raise you
> 
>         How many items of physical evidence are there of the holocaust.
> 
>         You provide one and I will deal with the rest.

In Poland, near the town known as Auschwitz while it was under German occupation,
there exists a camp known as Auschwitz-Birkenau.  The existance of this camp
matches documentary and eyewitness evidence that indicates it was there.

The existance of this camp provides one piece of physical evidence that at least
part of the story of the Holocaust is true.

Your turn, Giwer.  And I'm not going to let you stray off topic.

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william c anderson wrote:
> 
> :Why write?  I'll be seeing Ol' Liz during the Annual ZOG Royalty
> :Appreciation Day Picnic in Bermuda.  I'll give her the message
> :personally.
> 
> Good ol' Liz.  How's her RAF/Mossad drug-smuggling operation
> coming along?

She said that it was okay.  There's a problem with the white slavery
ring stealing blond Aryan children to sell them to car washers in
New Jersey, but the drugs themselves are flowing fine.

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william c anderson wrote:

> : I have news. We won't be gotten. Once we are truly threatened, we will
> : kill you. And we will do it before you do it to us. This isn't the firs
> : time this has happened. The Romans were beset by all the tribes wanting
> : into the Roman Empire. Whenever the pressures go too great, a great
> : killing took place. In ths way, Rome lasted 1,000 years, until the Huns,
> : driven by the Mongols, entered the Roman Provinces. This diversity killed
> : Rome in less than 70 years.
> 
> Ah, the usual White Power Ranger grasp of history.  This short
> paragraph includes so many mistakes I can't count them.  A
> representative sample.
> 
> -The Roman Empire was, in fact, famously open--to anyone willing
>  to pay tribute to Rome.  Quite a few "barbarians" became Roman
>  citizens, and some of them attained quite a bit of power.  There
>  were few "great killings".
> 
> -The Huns were not "driven by the Mongols".  In fact, the Huns
>  *were* Mongols, in that they seem to have originated in the
>  area known as Mongolia--but the Huns don't seem to have been
>  "driven" by anybody, and the Mongol Empire didn't make an
>  appearance on the world scene until eight hundred years after
>  the Huns ceased to be a factor.
> 
> -The Huns didn't conquer the Roman Empire.  They attacked it
>  several times, but their final thrust was stemmed by disease,
>  and Rome was still the capitol of the West when Atilla died;
>  it was finally sacked in 476 by Germanic tribesmen under
>  Odoacer.

Rome didn't have an empire that lasted 1000 years.

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Matt Giwer wrote:

> >>  >   Sure, Matty poo.  You have bragged about your memberships in
> >>  >organizations
> >
> >>      You are a liar.  I have only mentioned in my years being a member of
> >>  the NRA and the Libertarian Party.
> 
> >       And the World Science Fiction Convention.
> 
>         There is no such organization.  But you know that.

Now why would Matt have ever attended a WorldCon?  According to his
own words, all science fiction is garbage.

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tom "I'll take stupid questions for $100, Alex" moran wrote:

> Answer:
>         Germany, France, England, Russia, Canada, United States and the
> Christians, to name a few.
> 
> Question:
>      _______________________________________________________________
> ____________________________________________________________________
> ____________________________________________________________________

What are the names of 4 European countries, 2 North American countries
and the major religion practiced in them?

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Matt Giwer wrote:

> >:      "MIS"?
> 
> >This thread just keeps getting funnier.
> 
> >Yes, Li'l Tommy-- Danny teaches at MIS, which stands for "Miskatonic
> >Institute of Surreality."  They're summoning the Old Gods to help
> >ZOG in it's campaign to undermine the Noble Aryan Race.
> 
> >Wanna apply?
> 
>         Miskatonic U. does fit in with a lot of holohugger stories.  Maniacal
> laughter heard over the aircraft engines indeed.

I thought you said all science fiction was garbage?

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Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 04 Sep 1996 19:11:14 -0300, Keith Morrison 
> wrote:
> 
> >Matt Giwer wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, 03 Sep 1996 18:16:42 -0300, Keith Morrison 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Matt Giwer wrote:
> >>
> >> >>         A minor problem is the laws against speech and the press are a cause
> >> >> for revolution.  Should Germans ever have the balls for it, I will do
> >> >> what I can to get them the guns.
> >>
> >> >That reminds me, Oh Gonadless One, I'm still waiting for you to gather up the
> >> >miniscule amount of courage you have to answer the following questions:
> >>
> >> >1.  Why did you cut out part of one of my posts and then claim you didn't
> >> >   do it despite the fact anyone with two neurons saw that you did?
> >>
> >> >2.  What hominid averaged seven feet in height?
> >>
> >> >3.  How many bones compose the skull and pelvis?
> >>
> >> >4.  How many bones does _Gray's Anatomy_ (which *you* mentioned) say
> >> >   there are in the skull?
> >>
> >> >(The 1995 reprint of the First Edition, page 4 and page 19 for starters)
> >>
> >>         I will see your claims and raise you
> >>
> >>         How many items of physical evidence are there of the holocaust.
> >>
> >>         You provide one and I will deal with the rest.
> 
> >In Poland, near the town known as Auschwitz while it was under German occupation,
> >there exists a camp known as Auschwitz-Birkenau.  The existance of this camp
> >matches documentary and eyewitness evidence that indicates it was there.
> 
> >The existance of this camp provides one piece of physical evidence that at least
> >part of the story of the Holocaust is true.
> 
> >Your turn, Giwer.  And I'm not going to let you stray off topic.
> 
>         We are agreed there was a camp.  So what?  There were camps in the US
> in WW II for Japanese-American citizens.  And there are cetainly
> traces of insectides in them.
> 
>         No holocaust there.
> 
>         Next point.

Sorry, you asked for one piece of physical evidence.  You never said it had to
prove beyond a shadow of a doubt the Holocaust occurred.  Now, as per our
agreement:

1.  Why did you cut out part of one of my posts and then claim you didn't
   do it despite the fact anyone with two neurons saw that you did?
 
2.  What hominid averaged seven feet in height?
 
3.  How many bones compose the skull and pelvis?
 
4.  How many bones does _Gray's Anatomy_ (which *you* mentioned) say
   there are in the skull?
 
(The 1995 reprint of the First Edition, page 4 and page 19 for starters)
--
Keith Morrison
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From t08o@unb.ca Thu Sep  5 18:22:43 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
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tom moran wrote:
> 
> brucew@phoenix.net (Bruce Wedding) wrote:
> 
> >tm@pacificnet.net (tom moran) wrote:
> >
> >>      One way to get a grasp of where this "war" stands in the history
> >>of U.S. wars, is that you never have, nor will you ever see a
> >>Hollywood war movie about it, even from Hollywood.
> >
> >There already is a movie about it tom.  I can't recall the name, but
> >it is the one starring Meg Ryan.
> >
> >Bruce
> 
> Really? If you recall the name, let me know. Thanks

"Courage Under Fire" starring Denzel Washington, Meg Ryan,
Michael Moriarty (yay!), Lou Diamond Phillips, Bronson Pinchot.
I saw the promos while waiting for ID4 to start.

The Internet Movie Database also lists "The One That Got Away"
as being on the subject of the Gulf War.  One they did not list
but I have seen in passing in the video shop is a Michael 
"American Ninja" Dudikoff film set with the war as a backdrop
called, I believe "Chain of Command".

--
Keith Morrison
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Keith Morrison wrote:
> 
> tom moran wrote:
> >
> > brucew@phoenix.net (Bruce Wedding) wrote:
> >
> > >tm@pacificnet.net (tom moran) wrote:
> > >
> > >>      One way to get a grasp of where this "war" stands in the history
> > >>of U.S. wars, is that you never have, nor will you ever see a
> > >>Hollywood war movie about it, even from Hollywood.
> > >
> > >There already is a movie about it tom.  I can't recall the name, but
> > >it is the one starring Meg Ryan.
> > >
> > >Bruce
> >
> > Really? If you recall the name, let me know. Thanks
> 
> "Courage Under Fire" starring Denzel Washington, Meg Ryan,
> Michael Moriarty (yay!), Lou Diamond Phillips, Bronson Pinchot.
> I saw the promos while waiting for ID4 to start.
> 
> The Internet Movie Database also lists "The One That Got Away"
> as being on the subject of the Gulf War.  One they did not list
> but I have seen in passing in the video shop is a Michael
> "American Ninja" Dudikoff film set with the war as a backdrop
> called, I believe "Chain of Command".

Oops.  The Dudikoff film shouldn't have been there.  Wrong war.

--
Keith Morrison
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Bob Wilson wrote:

> > Me:
> >   :The assertion that enslaving people proves that you consider them equals
> >   :is so screamingly ludicrous that I don't even know how to respond.
> 
> Then, perhaps you would like to review the United State Army. It enslaves
> people via the draft and agains their wills. Nonetheless, the Army does
> not hate its conscriptees.

Please indicate when the US Army started drafting people recently.

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Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 21:28:44 -0300
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tom moran wrote:

> >> >    So, ah, Tommy...  does your sister like to go 
> >> >    fishing?  
> >> >
> >> >                         daniel david mittleman
> >>
> >>         No, I don't know what you mean. Do you have the nerve to come
> >> right out and explain what you mean? Don't beat around the bush. Just
> >> come out and say it, "Like a 'man'".
> >
> >This boy is truly sad.
> >
> >Tell you what, Moran, go ask your friend Giwer.  He likes Python.  He'll
> >explain it to you.
> 
>         Why don't you just tell me.

Explaining it to someone who can't catch on...yet...would be like trying
to explain relativity to a brick wall.

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schwartz@infinet.com wrote:

> > >My son, who is autistic, deeply resents this statement.
> >
> >         If he is, he can't.
> 
> Ah, Mr. Giwer is not an expert on AUTISM?!?!?!
> 
> Your statement only PROVES your incredible ignorance, Mr. Giwer.
> 
> Perhaps you've heard of a woman named Temple Grandin? No? Go look her up,
> Mr. Giwer. She is a very accomplished and educated woman, has written at
> least two best-selling books, raises livestock, and is autistic.
> 
> Or read Thomas McKean's _Soon Will Come the Light_. It's a beautiful book.
> Thomas is also autistic.
> 
> Or read ANYTHING that Dr. Oliver Sacks has written about autistic people.
> 
> Not that it's any of your business, but my son has Asperger's Disorder,
> which is considered a "high-functioning" form of autism. He attends
> regular public school, just like any other 9-year-old.
> 
> And since you seem to care, his tested IQ is higher than yours.

The next sound you hear will be the strangled gagging sounds from Giwer
as he attempts to backpedal out of the deep pile of doo doo he has so
tenderly plummeted into.

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Keith Morrison
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tom moran wrote:

> >Courage Under Fire starring Meg Ryan and Denzel Washington.
> >
> >Bruce
> 
>         Okay, thanks. I'll have to rent it and see what they have
> squeezed out.

Might be difficult to find at Blockbuster as they just released it
in theatres.

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Mike Curtis wrote:

> >Then where the hell is my new decoder ring?  The old one just don't work.  You
> >know, the blue one (or is it mauve?).
> >
> 
> What ever happened happened to Mr. Mauve?
> 

He was offed in the library with the pipe.

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Matt Giwer wrote:

> >>Matt, you don't even read this stuff, do you?  Every holohugger on
> >>this list has BEGGED you to include him or her in the "lawsuit against
> >>Nizkor."  I'm begging you right now--please, please, please include
> >>me in the lawsuit against Nizkor.  I haven't done any work for them,
> >>but if you'll promise to include me in the "lawsuit," I'll pony up
> >>some pages immediately.
> 
> >Me, too!  Me, too!  And can you sue a bunch of my friends, as well?  Florida
> >is so nice in January...
> 
>         I will forward your name also.  BTW:  Please provide a serving address
> 
>         ALL OF YOU.

No, sorry, I don't play that game.  However, documents can be forwarded
to me from the University of New Brunswick Geology Department.  If something
comes in for me they'll let me know.

I'm not holding my breath.

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Subject: Re: 12 million into camps, Mr. "Stone?"
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Ourobouros wrote:
> 
> 
> I shall retract my statements on these conditions:
> 
> 1.  When exactly the concentration camps were built.
> 
> 2.  Where the vast bulk of nearly 12 million "victims" died.
> 
> Only then will I reconsider that I was in error.
> 
> Nothing more, nothing less.

1.  Read a good book.

2.  Please tell us where the vast bulk of 20 million victims of
the Plague in the 14th century in Europe died.

What is that you say?  They died all over the place and not in
one particular place?  That you cannot say where the "vast bulk"
died because they died all over?

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Conrad wrote:
> 
> Look it up.

Not getting any, hunh?

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Matt Giwer wrote:

>         I am not interested in the posts of a Jew who supports Jews murdering
> Americans.
> 
>         Is that clear?

You have to love someone who wraps himself in the flag of a country of whose
history, law and constitution he is blissfully ignorant.

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Matt Giwer wrote:

> >:      Do you mean to claim there is actual physical evidence for this
> >: holocaust of yours?
> 
> >Do you mean to claim there is actual physical evidence for this Dresden
> >firestorm of yours?
> 
>         I have posted it.  Look it up.

No you didn't.  You mentioned some clearly forged piece of alledged film
supposedly taken from airplanes with no evidence of what it is they might
be doing and where or when.

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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe,alt.politics.white-power,alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: White MEN Created Everything
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 19:10:21 -0300
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Conrad wrote:
> 
> Look it up.

Not getting any, hunh?

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Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Mon Sep  9 19:33:34 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Ausrotten and the only good Indian is a dead Indian
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 19:15:25 -0300
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Yale F. Edeiken wrote:

> >       Now go back and read the thread so you find some way to distort
> what
> >  was said so you can pretend you were right all along.
> 
>         Since I was, there is no need to distort.  The Worldcon (a name legallt
> protected by the WSFS) is put on by the WSFS.  Simple logic would have told
> you there must be a basic organization or else anybody can put on a
> "Worldcon" (they cannot) and pass out "Hugos" (also legally protected by the
> WSFS).
> 
>         And the Wiccan religion has been given program space at every
> Worldcon I know of since 1980.  I certainly did when I programmed the 1982
> Worldcon.  It has also given program space to a "Christian SF" group since the
> founding of that group by Ross Pavlac.
> 
>         Now why were you a member of said organization?

He was taking part in the costume contest where he was doing an imitation of
a really stupid Pierson's Puppeteer.  Incompetant and a total coward.

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Keith Morrison
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Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Ausrotten and the only good Indian is a dead Indian
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 19:17:32 -0300
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Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
> On 8 Sep 1996 08:37:38 GMT, schultr@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il (Richard
> Schultz) wrote:
> 
> >Matt  Giwer (mgiwer@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
> 
> >: But then you were probably educated in a public school and
> >: simply do not know any better.
> 
> >So from which elite private school did you receive your education [sic]?
> >It doesn't seem to have done you any more good than the education that
> >we poor public school peons got.
> 
>         It is good to see your deficiencies in history are being blamed upon
> your public school education.
> 
>         I commend you for recognizing it.

So where did you go to university again?  Why wasn't a brilliant person such
as yourself not given a full scholarship at, say, Harvard or MIT?  Unlike a 
friend of mine and her younger sister.

--
Keith Morrison
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Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Ausrotten and the only good Indian is a dead Indian
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 19:13:02 -0300
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Matt Giwer wrote:

>         What an idiot, illiterate shit.  The Constituion grants no freedoms.
> It protects rights from the government.  Learn to read, dumb shit.

Oh Constitutional Expert, want to tell us (again) who has the sole Constitutional
power to declare war?

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Mon Sep  9 19:33:36 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: "I'm _not_ a Nazi!
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 21:42:30 -0300
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Martin Paegert wrote:
> 
> Ole Kreiberg (olk@login.dknet.dk) wrote:
> 
> > Today the problem is all those people from the ethnic minorities from
> > the third world who have "invaded" my country.
> 
> According to my records the "invasion" in terms of percentage of
> inhabitans does consist of
> 
>          Turkish    0.5 %
>          Swedish    0.4 %
>          British    0.2 %
>          Yusoslavia 0.2 %
>          ----------------
>          Sum        1.3 % of inhabitants do not have Danish citizenship
>          ================
> 
> Thus, what "invasion" are you talking about ? 

Just to point out, of that 1.3% only 0.5% are not actually European and
if you want to get picky, only 0.7% are actually not Northern European.

Some invasion there, Ole.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


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Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Jewish Allegiance is to Israel First
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 21:45:15 -0300
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Kurt Stele wrote:

> Just like a holohugger.

And revisionists never *ever* use name-calling.

Boy that particular little piece of moral pomposity didn't last
long, did it?

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: QUEBEC FED UP WITH PHONEY ISRAELI REFUGEES
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 21:46:47 -0300
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Yale F. Edeiken wrote:
> 
> >   tm@pacificnet.net (tom moran) writes:
> 
> 
> >       In the U.S. there are hundreds of thousands on the government
> >  dole.
> 
>         Don't just stand there polishing the floo0r with your knuckles, l'il tommy.
> Give us somne specifics.  It should be hard for you to name a few hundred.

Well, there's his wife.  That's one.  Or does Bob insist on the missionary
position, traditional family values and all that?

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Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: GIWER SEES GENOCIDE AS LEGITIMATE ACT OF WAR (was Re: Ausrotten again)
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Matt Giwer wrote:

>         I frankly did not think there would be anyone stupid enough to be
> suckered in to that one.  Maybe autism runs in the family.

You know, trolling is one thing but you are really a sick and perverted little
worm, aren't you?

I'm mean, maybe you do get that way being unemployable at 46 and acting in such
a way that people compare you rather favourably with genital lice.  Not everyone
can claim of being one of the most reviled people around but hey, who am I to
complain about your masochistic tendencies?  Live and let live, I say.  So if
you want to continue to indulge in your intellectual self-flaggellation, why go
right ahead.

Putz.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


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From: Keith Morrison 
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Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 9 Sep 1996 06:58:31 GMT, dkeren@world.std.com (Daniel Keren)
> wrote:
> 
> >mgiwer@ix.netcom.com (Matt  Giwer) writes:
> 
> >[About the two shrunken heads of Buchenwald inmates (see also
> > on Nizkor's site, .../camps/buchenwald/images)]
> 
> ># The shrunken heads of the "prisoners" were returned to the
> ># museum's South American exhibit from where they were borrowed.
> >
> >Will you do us a favor and post the source for this amazing
> >claim, Matty?
> 
>         It has been posted.
> 
>         Look it up in DejaNews a you and your fellow hollohuggers say.

Liar.  A search of DejaNews reveals no such post by anyone, least of
all a cowardly little Troll named Giwer.

So, chickenshit, when are you going to show something resembling guts
and answer a few questions, based on comments you have made:

1.  How many bones does _Gray's Anatomy_ say make up the skull and
pelvis?

2.  What hominid averaged seven feet tall?

3.  What did Raul Wallenberg contribute to the USHMM?

4.  When was the term "United Nations" first used?

5.  What are the hard parts of forams made of?

6.  Why did you cut part of one of my posts when answering it and
then claiming you didn't?

7.  If HCN is not considered a chemical weapon why does it have a
NATO code and entries in standard chemical warfare texts?

8.  Who, according to the US Constitution has the sole authority to
make a declaration of war?

9.  Why did you alter a quote from Huey Long, deliberately changing
the word "Americanism" to "anti-fascism"?

--
Keith Morrison
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Subject: Re: I missed some mail
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Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
>         I really do wish to have the REAL names and process serving addresses
> of all of the people who wish to be named in a lawsuit against Nizkor
> due to your participation in Nizkor and support of Nizkor.
> 
>         I do not want the wishwashy here.  I want those who are part of
> everything Nizkor is trying to accomplish without exception.
> 
>         Now what I want you to do if you are really serious and have had a
> chance to think about it is to email me your request to be named.  But
> you do have to provide a real name and a real address.  If you do not
> do that then you are not serious.
> 
>         If you do this you can show your solidarity with Nizkor.
> 
>         I am seriously soliciting names and addresses to be named in this
> lawsuit.
> 
>         My position of course is that Nizkor is maligning the good name of
> people.  If you agree with this then it is up to you to stand with
> Nizkor.
> 
>         Please quote all of this post with your response.

Ah yes, maligning the good name of people who post comments such as:

==
"Right on, fat broad. Do you have do clean up McVay with your lips also? 
What a stupid and fat broad. If you are interested in the dictionary it 
is right there before fatbroad. The only way you got your title is by 
laying McVay and you know it. You have no other qualifications. You 
contribute nothing. You accept only sperm from a thing." 
                                                                                                                                                             -Matt
Giwer, 22 June, 1996 
==

AND

==
"You are the one who decided to use your son as part of this
discussion.

Obviously, you have no better use for him.

After all, he is only something that you are disgusted in having to
love.

But now you have a use for him to pay you back for all the effort he
has forced you to endure.

A typical Jew mother."

-Matt Giwer, 8 September, 1996
==

Yes, we wouldn't want to malign any contemptible piece of human filth
like that now, would we?

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Keith Morrison
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Derek Bell wrote:
> 
> Tom "I quote other people, especially if they disagree with me" Moran
> Tom "I dislike an Israeli gun, therefore I don't believe in the Holocaust"Moran
> Matt "It's true because I say so" Giwer
> Matt "The Jewish cornflakes are conspiring against me!" Giwer
> Matt "Flame _me_ - _I_ do it!" Giwer
> Matt "I have evidence, but you look for it" Giwer
> Ernst "The Nazis were nice guys who flew flying saucers" Zundel
> Les "Sylvie is my left hand, er woman" Griswold
> 
>         Any more?

Tom "Moran doesn't speak of Moran in the third Moran" Moran.

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Milton Kleim wrote:

> Well, I shock myself when I say this, but I'm now convinced that _the
> Turner Diaries_ is an _abuse_ of free speech, even as interpreted by the
> Founding Fathers (whom in my book count more than modern legal
> "theorists").  Publications have a legitimate justification for not
> publicizing it.  But, there is also a case to be made, as Lyle Stuart did,
> that dissemination of the book has greater positive effect, than does
> suppressing it.  The more normal people (i.e., those who are not bitter at
> society -- as I was -- or loony, or even totally fucking nuts) who read
> the book and are absolutely repulsed by the base hatred (no, I didn't
> believe it was a book of "love for one's Race" when I was in the
> "movement," either) and mad schemes and dreams within it's covers, the
> better.  The greater awareness of the threat to not only non-Whites, but
> Aryans who don't share the author's "vision," the greater potential that
> the "vision" will not be realized (yet again), even in small scale.

[shaking head in disbelief]

You know, some days the world just goes right weird.

And restores your faith in humanity.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@Unb.ca


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Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: SHOW YOUR SUPPORT II - sign on here
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 19:04:36 -0300
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Gord McFee wrote:

> :>:     "McFee", your only nibling here.
> :>
> :>I don't know about the rest of you, but this sounds like some sort of
> :>daytime talk show intro to me.  "And now, 'Dialling for Fatbroads,'
> :>with the star of our show -- your only nibling -- Gord McFee!"
> :>
> :>Now if someone would just tell me what a "nibling" is. . .
> 
> With pleasure.  A "nibling" is the person who puts those small points on the
> end of fountain pens.

Get real.  Everyone knows that a Nibling is one of those guys that Wagner
wrote a really loud and too long opera about, the Ring of the Nibling.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.fan.ernst-zundel,alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: 960910: The company they keep
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 19:53:05 -0300
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Rich Graves wrote:

> There's an outline of Lebensraum, a Nazi fantasy epic about America
> becoming the new Aryan Homeland, on Ingrid's personal web page,
> http://www.webcom.com/~ina/novel.html
> 
> HELLO!
> 
> Click on part VI to download 200-some pages of text as an Acrobat file.
> Someone want to do a book report?

Oh, alright...

Despite a dreadful case of nausea and a headache due to prose 
that reads like the Bronte sisters on acid bein dictated to by
Goebbels, there are some funny parts.  Page 49 and the line
"The menace of democracy!" is a laugh.  Calling on religious
imagery, like Stalin being the Antichrist as Our Heroine gets
all religious is a hoot considering the sanctity in which our
friendly neighbourhood Nazis held for churches during WW2
(How many dead priests again?)

And how can you not love dialogue like:

   "The low-life!  The scofflaw!  She stole my pail of jam!  I'll
   have her bound and shot!"

   "You didn't!  No!  Natasha!  Not one among us steals!"

Have you ever read one of those works by someone wanting to write
a Great Epic without having the talent?  You know, someone aspiring
to be the next Hemmingway or Buck while they should be writing
commercials for used car lots?

Of course there's the standard Jews Jews Jews It's All The Jews
theme song.  Rather insipid.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: What other sorts of Revisionism are there?
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 19:56:10 -0300
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Allan Matthews wrote:
> 
> All we get in this newsgroup is Holocaust, Holocaust, Holocaust.  Don't
> revisionists look into any other historical subject matter?
> 
> Inquiring minds want to know.

Why sure there is.  They are also into How Jews Control the UN,
How Jews Are Behind Equal Rights, How Jews Control the Media
and the ever popular How Jews Control the Banks.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


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Derek Bell wrote:
> 
> dmittleman@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu (Danny Mittleman) writes:
> >    Is this man being intentionally funny, or is he really Simpson clueless
> >    as well as Python clueless?
> 
>         I guess li'l Tommy's just plain _all round_ clueless!

No, it's just that his knowledge has a few...um...holes.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


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Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: real shit try
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Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
>         Want to try it again?
> 
>         You folks are some of the most accomplished liars I have ever come
> across.  But not quite good enough.

Gee, you are correct.  Now for an example of a real pathetic liar, try

  http://www.almanac.bc.ca/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/lies/lie-hcn-not-cw.html

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


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Matt Giwer wrote:

[nothing really important]

Hi Matt!  Welcome back!

1.  How many bones does _Gray's Anatomy_, your opinions
notwithstanding, say compose the skull and pelvis?

2.  What hominid averaged seven feet tall?

3.  Why does standard texts on chemical warfare list HCN,
and why did NATO give it a STANAG of "AC" if no one ever
thought of using it in chemical warfare?

4.  Figure out what Raul Wallenberg contributed to the USHMM
yet?

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Keith Morrison
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Conrad wrote:

> > > Look it up.
> >
> > Not getting any, hunh?
> 
> Got any brown nephews yet?

No.  I have no nieces or nephews.  I do have a lovely cousin
who is mulatto.  Does she count?

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Conrad wrote:

> > > Look it up.
> >
> > Not getting any, hunh?
> 
> Got any brown nephews yet?

No.  I have no nieces or nephews.  I do have a lovely cousin
who is mulatto.  Does she count?

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Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 09 Sep 1996 19:13:02 -0300, Keith Morrison 
> wrote:
> 
> >Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
> >>         What an idiot, illiterate shit.  The Constituion grants no freedoms.
> >> It protects rights from the government.  Learn to read, dumb shit.
> 
> >Oh Constitutional Expert, want to tell us (again) who has the sole Constitutional
> >power to declare war?
> 
>         I have answered that many times.

And were wrong every time.
 
>         Are you reveling in your ignorance of history?  Want to list the
> declared wars in US history?
>
>         Would you some day like to learn the difference between a war and a
> declared war?
> 
>         Of course you would not.  You are proud of your ignorance.  You enjoy
> displaying it.

Who has the sole Constitutional power to declare war?  You said the President.
I say Congress.  According to the Constitution, which of us is correct, Giwer?

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


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Subject: Re: Kreiberg's plans to deport Danish citizens
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Ole Kreiberg wrote:
> 
> In article <51c401$bir@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>, Ken McVay OBC wrote:
> >In article ,
> >olk@login.dknet.dk (Ole Kreiberg) wrote:
> >
> >
> >>When no longer being Danish citizens they will be asked to leave the
> >>country. Furthermore I could never dream of advocating the arrest of somebody
> >>who leave the country within a certain respite. Only people who refuse
> >>to leave the country after they have lost legal rights to stay, will be
> >>interned until they change their mind and leave.
> >
> >Tranlation: When Danish citizens refuse to leave Denmark, I
> >will arrest them.
> 
>  When they no longer are Danish citizens, they will be treated as illegal
> aliens.

So, Mr Kreiberg, what are the objective definitions you will use to decide
who gets stripped of their citizenship?  Who decides these criteria?

--
Keith Morrison
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Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 12 Sep 1996 22:02:56 -0300, Keith Morrison 
> wrote:
> 
> >Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
> >[nothing really important]
> 
> >Hi Matt!  Welcome back!
> 
> >1.  How many bones does _Gray's Anatomy_, your opinions
> >notwithstanding, say compose the skull and pelvis?
> 
> >2.  What hominid averaged seven feet tall?
> 
> >3.  Why does standard texts on chemical warfare list HCN,
> >and why did NATO give it a STANAG of "AC" if no one ever
> >thought of using it in chemical warfare?
> 
> >4.  Figure out what Raul Wallenberg contributed to the USHMM
> >yet?
> 
>         In accordance with my agreement with Netcom, I will not respond with
> the supporting information that Ken McVay requested and then falsely
> claimed was a mailbomb when it was only an answer to his questions.
> 
>         Yours are fewer but still my agreement with Netcom prohibits me from
> proving you an idiot in your questions.

Oh yeah, I believe you, Giwer.  I really do.  Only one thing, Giwer.
*I* asked you about how many bones _Gray's Anatomy_ says compose the
skull and pelvis.  I'm not asking for your opinion or anything.  Just
tell me what _Gray's Anatomy_ says.  You might want to try the 1995
reprint of the First Edition.  Pages 14 and 19.

And *I* asked you about the seven foot tall hominid you claimed existed
at one time or another.  Ken McVay has never asked you that.  

--
Keith Morrison
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Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Joel Rosenberg's Writing Bested by George
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 23:48:53 -0300
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Kurt Stele wrote:
> 
> Joel Rosenberg is posting repeated smears against George Lehmann like some
> cretin spraying graffiti.
> 
> So much for behaving as a "distinguished author." (hah)
> 
> Joel is obviously miffed at something. He has posted at least 10 headers
> with George's name in it and continues to smear George is a coward and an
> anti-semite. However, if you care to browse through Joel Rosenberg's
> pulp-fantasy books you will conclude George is a much better writer than
> Joel.  I believe that explains what this all about.

Which explains why Joel is published while George is...well..putrid.

--
Keith Morrison
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Matt Giwer wrote:

>         The US does not spy on its allies.  

Yeah, right.

And they really *were* concerned with environmental issues
when they fought against the idea of Canada getting nuclear
powered subs.  Uh-huh.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Sat Sep 14 01:29:04 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: "Kurt Stele" is even easier to catch as a liar than George J. Lehmann is
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 23:47:50 -0300
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Joel Rosenberg wrote:

> >"Her voice was just a hair too light, too casual, or maybe my own bad
> >dream had oversensitized me, which would be a first; nobody's ever accused
> >me of being sensitive.
> 
> >"Dreams?" I asked.
> 
> >"Dreams" she said.
> 
> >"You know, stories that you tell yourself when you fall asleep.  Sausages
> >chasing bagels through tunnels, stuff like that."
> 
> Kurt, if you keep this up, I'm going to have to start giving you a commission.
> 
> Nah.

Now now, don't be hasty.  Because of Mr Stele's evident devotion to your
work I [blushing in embarrasment] happened to wander past my usual boundary
at the Zelazny-Anthony Line in the book store and browsed through the "R"
section.

--
Keith Morrison
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From t08o@unb.ca Sat Sep 14 01:29:05 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Take a step back and think about it..
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 23:50:26 -0300
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Kurt Stele wrote:
> 
> Take a step back and think about it.
> 
> Look what we're doing.
> 
> We're arguing with people who claim that Germans exterminated Jews with
> insecticide ("poison gas" -- ooooooh) in shower rooms ("gas chambers" --
> ooooooh).
> 
> Think about their claim.  How cheesy.  How utterly -stupid-.
> 
> Let us never lose sight of the big picture.

And let us remind ourselves that several million people just kind
of went away leaving no forwarding address.  Hey, we can't explain it
but they were Jews so who cares, right?

--
Keith Morrison
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From t08o@unb.ca Sat Sep 14 08:51:03 PDT 1996
Article: 65367 of alt.revisionism
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: All mouth - No substance
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 22:10:26 -0300
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Mark Van Alstine wrote:

> > >         The US does not spy on its allies.
> >
> > Yeah, right.
> >
> > And they really *were* concerned with environmental issues
> > when they fought against the idea of Canada getting nuclear
> > powered subs.  Uh-huh.
> 
> Nah, that wasn't because we wanted to _spy_ on our lil' buddies up North.
> (Deisel subs can be _real_ quite.) 

Quiet?  Not ours.  Well, there was that time we "sank" a CVN, but I'm sure
that was just a fluke.

> It was because we didn't want you guys
> "tagging along" when _our_ subs played hide and seek under the artic ice
> cap.... };->

Yeah right.  Like we were going to announce to the Soviets where the
US boomers were hiding.  Of course the USN was probably worried that
there might be a security leak up here...not like they had their own
or anything.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Sat Sep 14 08:51:04 PDT 1996
Article: 65369 of alt.revisionism
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: The Talmud: Jewish Book of Hate
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 21:57:51 -0300
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acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:
> 
> Is this why JEWS are allowed to shrug off their complicity in the
> genocide of the Ukraine in 1933, led by the Jewish controlled
> NKVD/OGPU?Don't forget it was the Polish Jew Dzerzhinski who set up the
> Soviet Murdering Secret Police to please Lenin and Stalin.
> 
> Is this why the Jews did not care about murdering the UN troops at the
> Lebanon refugee camp?

Please tell us how many UN troops died during that artillery strike.

--
Keith Morrison
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Article: 65371 of alt.revisionism
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: thought for the day...
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 22:14:46 -0300
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>         When one has dozens of delousing chambers for clothing one certainly
> needs dozens of detectors of the gas.

One who makes statements like "fans cannot move air" should refrain from
talking about technical matters.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: All mouth - No substance
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 16:54:07 -0300
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Mark Van Alstine wrote:

> > > Nah, that wasn't because we wanted to _spy_ on our lil' buddies up North.
> > > (Deisel subs can be _real_ quite.)
> >
> > Quiet?  Not ours.
> 
> Too bad. You shoulda bought German. The Germans make great diesel U-boats.

Our subs, sir, are home-grown.  They're just a tad...well...ancient.  But
for their time they were just fine.  Of course, in their time there was
no such thing as an Alpha or Los Angeles Class.  In fact in their time
there weren't iron-clads.

>> ...Well, there was that time we "sank" a CVN, but I'm sure that was just a
>> fluke.
> 
> Yeah, yeah. They was boostin' you guys' egos.... (Yeah, that's it!)  };->

Gee, thanks.  Like we needed it.  


> > Of course the USN was probably worried that there might be a security
> > leak up here...
> 
> Yep. I bet the squids just _hate_ having their cavorting around on the
> ice-pack show up on "Funniest home videos" or something....
> 
> >...not like they had their own or anything.
> 
> So _that's_ how you "sunk" the CVN! Tsk, tsk.

That, sir, is a damnable lie.  It sunk that carrier fair and square.  Well,
okay, it didn't actually *sink* it.  But considering the fact that it
penetrated the sub screen, the escort screen, the dipping sonar screen and
surfaced beside the carrier to wave to the flight deck crew, it *could*
have done her in.

Now, for security leaks, remind me to tell you about the time a Special
Forces unit in training up this way did a night drop.  Shame that the LZ
was surrounded by "enemy" Canadian troops at the time...

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Sat Sep 14 16:27:54 PDT 1996
Article: 65522 of alt.revisionism
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: internet harrassment
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 18:03:44 -0300
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Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
>         Have you or someone you can contact been subject to harrassment
> outside of a newsgroup?  Has your Internet Service Provider been
> harrassed because you disagree with the holohuggers?  Do you know
> anyone who has been?
> 
>         Have you been the recipient of mailbombs for your positions?  Has
> anything out of the ordinary happened because of your position?  I
> want to hear about it.
> 
>         If so, please email me or get to others and have them email their
> story to me.
> 
>         I have a small project in mind to come up with material for a web page
> that will list and describe the methods and tactics used.  If you wish
> to write it up yourself or simply tell me about it for me to write up
> either way is fine.
> 
>         It is intended to be an expose of the tactics of the holohuggers in
> silencing dissent on the internet.  This will be of service to those
> who have been hassled in setting the story straight as well as a
> resource on the web who may be harrassed in the future.
> 
>         Whatever you have please email it to me.  If I write it up you will
> have approval rights on the final version.  Anonymity respected.

Now wouldn't it be funny, if Giwer actually meant to do this, if
someone sent him anonymous messages about how those mean and nasty
holohuggers oppressed them?  And made them progressively more
outrageous.  And then publically stated who they were and that
they were pulling Giwer's chain and look what a moron he was for
believing such stupid stories.

Not that I'm suggesting anything like this, mind you.

--
Keith Morrison
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From: Keith Morrison 
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Subject: Re: thought for the day...
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 18:22:38 -0300
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Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 13 Sep 1996 22:14:46 -0300, Keith Morrison 
> wrote:
> 
> >>         When one has dozens of delousing chambers for clothing one certainly
> >> needs dozens of detectors of the gas.
> 
> >One who makes statements like "fans cannot move air" should refrain from
> >talking about technical matters.
> 
>         When you have enough education to understand the comment, get back to
> me.

Oh well, how dumb of me to speak of something of which I am ignorant.
Of course one of my duties as mine geologist is helping out our
surveyor, who is also in charge of air quality measurements.  With
his work on ventilation I'm quite familiar with fans and moving
air.  I believe the fan sitting on a ventilation shaft about two
hundred feet from my office is rated at 15 thousand cubic feet per
minute.  And the there's this really odd sensation, sort of like
a moving air feeling when I pass one of our smaller ventilation
fans underground.

Odd that they seem to move air well.  And they are constructed
like the fan sitting on a desk, only bigger.

Obviously these fans do not realize that according to GiwerPhysics
they should not work.  Silly, silly fans.

--
Keith Morrison
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Giwer Blows it for the Nth Time (was Re: Kreiberg's plans to deport Danish citizens)
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 17:07:52 -0300
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Matt Giwer wrote:

> >       The difference -- which you refuse to recognize -- is that the people who
> >you are talking about are not "illegal immigrants."  They are Danish citizens either
> >by birth or because they obtained that citizenship by legal means.  To arbitrarily
> >revoke such citizenship on the basis of ethnic origins is a violation of their human
> >and legal rights.  There is, to my knowledge, only one country that ever so
> >maltreated their citizens.  That country was nazi Germany.

[snip]
 
>         Nazi Germany did no such thing.  

First Regulation Under the Reich Citizenship Law (15 Sept 1935),
as passed on 14 November 1935.

Article 4, section 1.

  1.  A Jew cannot be a citizen of the Reich.  He has no right to
   vote in political affairs and he cannot occupy public office.

  (http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?places/germany/nuremberg/nuremberg.003)

Just how much more explicitely wrong do you want to be proven?

--
Keith Morrison
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From: Keith Morrison 
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Subject: Re: Ausrotten again
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 17:16:00 -0300
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Danny Mittleman wrote:
> 
> In article <51c3m1$rme@sjx-ixn4.ix.netcom.com>, mgiwer@ix.netcom.com (Matt  Giwer) writes...
> >On Thu, 12 Sep 1996 22:02:56 -0300, Keith Morrison 
> >wrote:
> >
> >>1.  How many bones does _Gray's Anatomy_, your opinions
> >>notwithstanding, say compose the skull and pelvis?
> >
> >>2.  What hominid averaged seven feet tall?
> >
> >>3.  Why does standard texts on chemical warfare list HCN,
> >>and why did NATO give it a STANAG of "AC" if no one ever
> >>thought of using it in chemical warfare?
> >
> >>4.  Figure out what Raul Wallenberg contributed to the USHMM
> >>yet?
> >
> >       In accordance with my agreement with Netcom, I will not respond with
> >the supporting information that Ken McVay requested and then falsely
> >claimed was a mailbomb when it was only an answer to his questions.
> >
> >       Yours are fewer but still my agreement with Netcom prohibits me from
> >proving you an idiot in your questions.
> 
>     Translation: I have no answers to those questions for which I don't
>     look stupid, so I will try this new dodge which NETCOM has afforded me
>     and see if it works.

Sorry, he doesn't get off that easy.  The hominid question and the HCN
question are mine and the question as to what _Gray's Anatomy_ says
(which is different from Ken McVay's question) are mine.  He is under
no legal obligations not to answer *my* questions. 

--
Keith Morrison
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power,alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Ourobouros' sample definition of the White race
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 15:13:20 -0300
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Ourobouros wrote:

> As more information comes to hand then this definition will be expanded
> and become more precise.
> 
> 1.  There is four known skin genes, all of which have to correspond to
> being white.  That being able to show blue-coloured veins through the skin,
> and showing red under intense and immediate stress (like blushing).

As opposed to green-coloured veins I suppose.  All veins are blue.  Right
now I have a hard time seeing the ones in my wrist, but then again my arms
are rather deeply tanned from the sun.  I also don't blush very well in the
summer.

So, does this mean I'm white for the winter only?

> 2.  The skull shape is that of longhead of Mediterranean or Nordic stock.

Interesting definition.  Using this criteria, present Nordic types are
less white than a few of the Chinese students sitting in the same room
I am.

> 3.  The pupil of the eye is visible.  Colours being blue, green, hazel and
> brown variations.

Which sort of covers just about every human eye on the planet.

> 
> 4.  Round eyes.

African and European.

> 
> 5.  Fine hair.  Colours ranging in blonde, red and brunette variations.
>     Type ranges from straight to kinky.  Also reasonably hirsute.

Asian and European.

> 
> 6.  Long nose.

Native North American and European

> 7.  Thinnish lips.

Asian and European


> 9.  Other possibilities including: long fingers, fingerprints, earwax,
> and proportions of the body, e.g., centre of gravity.

Your forgot body odor.  By the by, earwax and body odor are the same
in Europeans and Africans and different in Asians.  Long fingers are
a ridiculous point.  I have short fingers and I'm about as European
as you can get.  


> 10.  At some point in the future genetic distance maps visibly
> demonstrating the White gene pool, as has vaguely being done by Cavalli-
> Sforza and his team in "History and Geography of Human Genes", 1994.  For
> a person to be White they will have to be within the appropriate area.

Whatever.

> 
> 11.  No known mongrelisation, eg., no nigger in the woodpile.

Given that all human types except Neandertals are know to have originated
in Africa, sort of hard to get around that one.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Sun Sep 15 13:43:54 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Giwer Blows it for the Nth Time (was Re: Kreiberg's plans to deport Danish citizens)
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 15:18:31 -0300
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Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 14 Sep 1996 17:07:52 -0300, Keith Morrison 
> wrote:
> 
> >Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
> >> >       The difference -- which you refuse to recognize -- is that the people who
> >> >you are talking about are not "illegal immigrants."  They are Danish citizens either
> >> >by birth or because they obtained that citizenship by legal means.  To arbitrarily
> >> >revoke such citizenship on the basis of ethnic origins is a violation of their human
> >> >and legal rights.  There is, to my knowledge, only one country that ever so
> >> >maltreated their citizens.  That country was nazi Germany.
> 
> >[snip]
> >
> >>         Nazi Germany did no such thing.
> 
> >First Regulation Under the Reich Citizenship Law (15 Sept 1935),
> >as passed on 14 November 1935.
> 
> >Article 4, section 1.
> 
> >  1.  A Jew cannot be a citizen of the Reich.  He has no right to
> >   vote in political affairs and he cannot occupy public office.
> 
> >  (http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?places/germany/nuremberg/nuremberg.003)
> 
> >Just how much more explicitely wrong do you want to be proven?
> 
>         And just what does "can not become" have to do with "removing
> citizenship from"?
> 
>         Please be specific in your response.

Okay.  Same law, section 2.
      
      Jewish officials will retire as of 31 December 1935.

ie, German citizens who held public offices were stripped of their citizenship
and their rights.

Oh dear.  Want to try something you might have a chance of being right in?
  
--
Keith Morrison
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Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.general,can.politics
Subject: Re: whites being exterminated
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 15:46:20 -0300
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acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:
> 
> You seem to have done considerable reasearch on the problems of the white
> people in Canada.

Grosvenor, just *who*, exactly, do you think you are fooling?

--
Keith Morrison
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: thought for the day...
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 15:40:52 -0300
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Matt Giwer wrote:

> >> >One who makes statements like "fans cannot move air" should refrain from
> >> >talking about technical matters.
> >>
> >>         When you have enough education to understand the comment, get back to
> >> me.
> 
> >Oh well, how dumb of me to speak of something of which I am ignorant.
> >Of course one of my duties as mine geologist is helping out our
> >surveyor, who is also in charge of air quality measurements.  With
> >his work on ventilation I'm quite familiar with fans and moving
> >air.  I believe the fan sitting on a ventilation shaft about two
> >hundred feet from my office is rated at 15 thousand cubic feet per
> >minute.  And the there's this really odd sensation, sort of like
> >a moving air feeling when I pass one of our smaller ventilation
> >fans underground.
> 
> >Odd that they seem to move air well.  And they are constructed
> >like the fan sitting on a desk, only bigger.
> 
> >Obviously these fans do not realize that according to GiwerPhysics
> >they should not work.  Silly, silly fans.
> 
>         And you are claiming that that there is a single fan of the common
> household type of portable fan that blows air down into the the mine
> and that is all there is to the system?  What a strange claim that but
> that is what the holohuggers were claiming about their beloved gas
> chambers.  Would you like to repeat your credentials?

Actually, there are two fans.  I said "they are constructed like", not
"they are identical to".  All fans used in the mine are either electric
or compressed-air powered and move air throught the use of multi-bladed
propellor-like rotary systems.


>         Now of course if you had followed the discussion you would know that I
> pointed out that at least a squirrel cage design was needed (as you
> are most certainly using else the back pressure is overwhelming the
> system with 200 feet of shaft) and that both an input and out exhaust
> fan are needed to create air flow.  That is exactly the system used in
> mines, on board ships and in the closed loop sense in central home
> HVAC.  It is also what is required for any "gas chamber".

All our fans are designed to puch air down into the mine.  Outward
ventilation is through unassisted airflow up the main (inclined) shaft
as well as one or two other old vertical shafts.  There are no, repeat
no exhaust fans.  Expulsion of air and gasses due to blasting is achieved
by overpressure generated through the input fans.  Our lowest level is
1350 feet underground, the main shaft about 2600 feet long from that point
to the surface.  There are no fans in the shaft used to move the air
upward.

>         As you know the requirement for moving air is both a push and a pull.
> Only a push loses most of it effectiveness in creating mainly
> turbulence and a back pressure that works against its effectiveness.
> Only a pull creates similar turbulence and maintains a negative
> pressure.  The ideal system with both input and exhaust fans creates a
> low turbulence air flow with no change in air pressure.

Bullshit, Giwer.  I know a bunch of mines that I have personally been in
that do not use any sort of air pulling system.  All use fans to push air
into the mine and allow it to flow out unassisted.

> 
>         If you have the credentials you claim, you understand the above.  If
> you do not then you will not understand it.  Either way, you are most
> likely to claim it is completely false even though you know it is
> true.  That is the sign of a holohugger.
> 
>         If you had been following the discussion, you would know that I
> pointed out the complete lack of any such system at any of the
> supposed gas chambers.
> 
>         But you were not following it.  You are simply jumping in here in
> order to create some fool holohugger point where there is none.

Of course there was no system such as you propose because there was no
ned of one.  I have seen systems that did not use a push-pull combination.
I *work* in a system that is only a push system.

As for my qualifications, you twit, I am mine geologist.  Not a mine
geologist, *the* mine geologist.  Not bad for only three months out
of school.

--
Keith Morrison
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From t08o@unb.ca Tue Sep 17 17:40:20 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.general,can.politics
Subject: Re: whites being exterminated
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 18:57:35 -0300
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acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:
> 
> I have no idea to what you are trying to refer, Keith.
> 
> I was responding to an article from a writer who was complaining about
> the extermination of the whites in Canada.
> 
> I suggest that you read his article, if you know how to read. Or else get
> your handler to read his article to you.

I have no handler.  I also, unlike some people I could name, do not
have multiple accounts to post from to try (rather pitifully) to convince
others that I am more than one person.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power,alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Ourobouros' sample definition of the White race
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 19:17:59 -0300
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I'm curious how the New Zealand Wormmeister would define the members of
this group.

Male: shorter than North American average, black hair, long nose, dark
      complexion, fairly thick body hair, muscular, thick build

female: shorter than North American average, light brown hair, light
        complexion

male:  Average North American height, small nose, prominent jaw
       and chin, light brown hair, not much body hair, muscular
       thick build

male:  Taller than North American Average, dark brown hair, long nose,
       thin wiry build

female:  Average North American height, small nose, blonde hair

Note that this group was selected almost at random.  Note that I have
not stated where they orginated.

Now, Mr Stone, who in this group, according to your definitions, is
white, who isn't and why?

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Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white,soc.culture.europe,alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Kreiberg's plans to deport Danish citizens
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 19:24:50 -0300
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Ole Kreiberg wrote:
> 
> In article <3239FEA4.DFF@unb.ca>, Keith Morrison  wrote:
> >
> >So, Mr Kreiberg, what are the objective definitions you will use to decide
> >who gets stripped of their citizenship?
> >
> Everyone that ethnically and culturally are a part of Europe will keep
> their citizensship. All others will not. They will have their citizenships
> converted into temporary B-citizensships that expire as soon as they leave
> the country and not a day before.

I see.  How long must they have been resident in Europe to be "ethically
and culturally" European?  Do Jews who have residing in Europe since the
early days of the Roman Empire count?  Where do you draw the line of
deciding where Europe ends and everywhere else begins?  Geographically
or geologically?  Do Turks who have been living on the European side of
the Dardenelles for several centuries count?  Do Spaniards who have some
Moorish ancestors count?  How about white Europeans who have adopted
Islam or Buddhism?  Can they stay?

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Keith Morrison
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Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: holohugging traitors
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 19:38:58 -0300
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Matt Giwer wrote:

> >It was an error. The ship was misidentified as an Egyptian ship.
> 
>         Only an unamerican Israeli sympathizer would make such a statement.  IT is
> clearly a lie.
> 
> >It happened in the midst of a war.
> 
> >Similar tragedies happened during the Gulf War.
> 
>         Not a one, Yid.

This will no doubt serve to comfort the families of the British soldiers who died
when their Warrior AFV was attacked by American aircraft due to mistaken identity
on the part of the pilot.

Or the Americans who died in Northern Iraq when their helicopter was shot done
by an American plane.

I'd call this "Giwer Blows it fot the N+1 Time" but I assume everyone takes
it for granted by now.

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Keith Morrison
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Ceacaa wrote:
> 
> Security at Crema II and III
> 
> According to Standard Holocaust Mythology (STM)

Obviously the poor man suffers from chronic ITCPA
(Inability To Create Proper Acronyms).

--
Keith Morrison
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From: Keith Morrison 
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Subject: Re: Ourobouros' sample definition of the White race
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Ourobouros wrote:

[snip]

> Mongolian Asiatics have coarse and straight hair, unless of course you mean
> an Asian to be Chinks/gooks, 

[snip]

> The body odour is not the same between Europeans and Africans.  The famed
> nigger smell would point to the complete opposite.  

You know, you have to love someone who tries to make this impressive
position with facts and so on and then throws "chinks" "gooks" and
"niggers" in it.

Just screams of objectivity it does.

--
Keith Morrison
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power,alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Ourobouros' sample definition of the White race
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Bob Whitaker wrote:

> > You know, you have to love someone who tries to make this impressive
> > position with facts and so on and then throws "chinks" "gooks" and
> > "niggers" in it.
> >
> > Just screams of objectivity it does.
> 
>      All traitors claim they are just being objective.  We racists are
> not traitors.

Just idiots.

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Keith Morrison
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Subject: Re: thought for the day...
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Michael P. Stein wrote:

>     Keith, perhaps you could take some photos so that Mr. Giwer will have
> some physical evidence?

Mr Giwer seems to have dropped the topic faster than a kilo of plutonium.

If I care to get around to it I might scan in some photos.  I believe some
of the fans are due to be moved soon, so that means they'll be checking
them.  Perhaps I might take a wander over to the shop when they do.

Then again, it might be a waste of time.  After all, who except Giwer
actually believes Giwer?

Oh by the by, just in case Mr Giwer is reading, the main shaft fan is
rated at 42 000 cubic feet per minute using a six-bladed rotary fan
that is about four feet across.  If he cares I'll ask the head of the
electrical department what power it draws and its RPMs.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


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From: Keith Morrison 
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Subject: Re: Tom Moran Can't read (again!) (Was Re: Holocaust Specifications For "Proof")
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Richard Schultz wrote:
> 
> Capt. Peter Peachfuzz (mgiwer@worldnet.att.net) wrote:
> 
> : However one of my plans is to collect those URLs and post them to
> : scientific and technical newsgroups as examples of the science that
> : supports the holocaust.
> 
> Better yet, why don't you repost your posts about how much Zyklon B is
> necessary to fill a gas chamber to 300 ppm of HCN to sci.chem?  The
> high school chemistry students there could probably use a good laugh.
> 
> And while you're at it, why don't you repost your comments on CO2
> (acidity, reactivity with CaO) there?  You might as well let as many
> people as possible know the, um, extent of your knowledge.

You got something against biologists?  I'm sure they would love to
know how many bones Giwer counts in the human body.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Fatbroad T-shirt
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 17:34:00 -0300
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william c anderson wrote:
> 
> tom moran (tm@pacificnet.net) wrote:
> 
> :       Could it be that Mr.McVay, "Director" of the righteous and pure
> : Holocaust anti-Hate website Nizkor, advocates and practices the
> : ridicule and hate of obese people?
> 
> Could it be that Mr. Moran was born entirely without a sense of
> irony?

No, just ignorance as to where the term originated.

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Keith Morrison
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From t08o@unb.ca Thu Sep 19 15:30:37 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Ausrotten and the only good Indian is a dead Indian
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 18:01:32 -0300
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Mark Van Alstine wrote:

> Oh, I'm pretty sure they're not the only ones. Iraq "donated" quite a bit
> of hardware to the U.S. a few years ago.... };->
> 
> Not to mention that I've heard rumors (unsubstantiated of course) that
> we've bought Soviet hardware from, among others, Egypt, Syria, and various
> CIS republics.

No rumors.  When they declassified part of the US Air Force Foreign Technology
Division at Wright-Patterson and showed journalists some of the neat stuff they
had there was a great deal of Soviet equipment that had been "found" all over
the world.  Obviously Eqypt would be a source when they switched sides between
Nassar and Sadat.  Looking for some quick under the table cash a lot of Soviet
clients probably operated a Black Market in Soviet equipment.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Thu Sep 19 18:45:03 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white,soc.culture.europe,alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Kreiberg's plans to deport Danish citizens
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 17:54:09 -0300
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Ole Kreiberg wrote:
> 
> In article <323F2532.268A@unb.ca>, Keith Morrison  wrote:
> >>
> >I see.  How long must they have been resident in Europe to be "ethically
> >and culturally" European?
> >
>  If you are not White you will never be regarded European no matter how
> many years you have lived in Europe.

Does the phrase "circular argument" mean anything to you?  The only
whites are Europeans.  So what's a European?  Someone who is white.
Brilliant tautology.

While we are at it, where is the cutoff date?  Humans are not native
to Europe, so when do you draw the line as to who is white and who isn't?
Three thousand years ago?  Two thousand?  Thirty thousand?

> >
> >Do Jews who have residing in Europe since the
> >early days of the Roman Empire count?
> >
>  The Jews in general are in the grey zone between white and coloured.
> Some may appear white, others not. It is however obvious when you watch
> the Jewish population in Israel that they resemble rather those people
> among whom they lived in the Diaspora than they resemble each other. It
> is obvious that there must have been a heavy inmixture through the many
> centuries. The Jews in general can therefore not be regarded as a race.

Answer the question.  Do Jews who can trace their ancestory in Europe
back at least two thousand years count or don't they?


> >
> >Where do you draw the line of
> >deciding where Europe ends and everywhere else begins?
> >
> The lines will follow Europe geographically.

So where is the eastern boundary of Europe?  I suggest you consider
your answer very carefully.

> >
> >Geographically
> >or geologically?  Do Turks who have been living on the European side of
> >the Dardenelles for several centuries count?
> >
>  The Turks are clearly in the grey zone. Many of them may appear white,
> others not. Their Muslim religion and culture make them a part of the Middle
> East. The Turkish people and their culture rather seem to be a hybrid
> between Europe and the Middle East, and I think that this is the way the
> Turks understand themselves too.

Answer the question.  Do Turks who have been living on the European side
of the Dardenelles for several centuries count?

> >
> >Do Spaniards who have some Moorish ancestors count?
> >
>  Spaniards are clearly Europeans culturally and ethnically. There may have
> been some Moorish inmixture here and there, but the Moors were mostly
> Berbers, and Berbers are classified as Mediterreanoids by ethnographers and
> thereby white, although they due to inmixture at least today may appear to
> be in the grey zone.

Answer the question.  Do Spaniards who have some Moorsih ancestors count?


> >How about white Europeans who have adopted Islam or Buddhism?  Can they
> >stay?
> >
> Yes

Why?  By adopting Islam or Buddhism they have adopted a "non-European"
cultural (ie religious) identity.  Therefore, since they are not following
a European cultural artifact, they are not white.

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Keith Morrison
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From t08o@unb.ca Fri Sep 20 01:16:08 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.politics,alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Better dead than alive
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 17:38:12 -0300
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tom moran wrote:
> 
>         The state department has issued a directive to U.S. airlines that
> fly over the Gulf of Arabia.
> 
>         Should any problems occur, they are to take their chances on
> ditching in the water instead of making a emergency landing at a Iraqi
> or Iranian airport.
> 
>         No one with any respect for reason would think that anything bad
> would happen to any passengers or airline personnel if such a
> emergency landing did take place in either one of these lands of
> Israel's enemies.

Indeed.  Why, taking the crew and passengers hostage would be just as
unlikely as them storming an embassy and taken the staff hostage or
taking foreign nationals and relocating them to potential military
targets so their nations are hestitant to attack them.

I mean, whoever would think of such a thing?

> 
>         To avoid this likelihood, it is better to have the crew and
> passengers die in the water than to chance an embarrassment from any
> good treatment that might show Israel's enemies are not all that the
> U.S. dominated press would have us believe.

Yep, heaven forbid they land at a potentially hostile airport.  Of course,
Tom forgets to mention that if they are in trouble over the Gulf of Arabia
they have about five other countries they can land in without any trouble
whatsoever.  And if they do go down in the water there happens to be all
these ships flying US flags hanging around...

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Fri Sep 20 19:09:46 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power,alt.revisionism,alt.politics.nationalism.white
Subject: Re: Chiral molecules: irrelevant to apw-p, but here anyway.
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 21:05:27 -0300
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Ourobouros wrote:

> My argument is:  What happens if you make up a bunch of chemicals of the
> chiral molecule type?
> 
> You get both forms of roughly equal proportion.
> 
> If life is consistent then life should also contain not only both forms
> of the same molecules but also in the same quantity.  However only one
> form is present in life, suggesting that life was formed rather than left
> to happenchance.  Nor can it be argued that a particular form is superior
> to the other.  Somehow only one form of the chiral molecules was "created"
> in life.

Well, at least its clear that our New Zealand amateur anthropologist
isn't really a bigot.  He's just clueless when it comes to evolutionary
biology.

For the unitiated the absence of "other-handed" molecules does *not*
mean that evolutionary theory is wrong.  What it does suggest is that
life originated from a common ancestor that just by chance happened to
use chiral molecules of one type.

To use another example, take arms and legs.  Is there any particular
advantage to having four limbs instead of six among the vertebrates?
The reason that the vertebrates that have limbs have four is that the
original stock of vertebrates evolved with four.  Since the beginnings
of four limbs was initiated *before* fish crawled out of the water
there is clearly nothing magical about living on land that indicates
vertebrates should only have four limbs.  That's just the way it happened.
If events had turned out another way six limbs might be standard.

And so it is with chiral molecules.

(followups to talk.origins where people more knowledgeable than myself
can rip his argument to shreds)

--
Keith Morrison
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From t08o@unb.ca Sat Sep 21 09:51:31 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
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Subject: Re: Acceptance makes truth
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 21:18:32 -0300
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Matt Giwer wrote:

> >That's ALL?  You want three historians who've investigated and published
> >on the Holocaust?  That's it?
> 
> >Listen, Matt--I gotta ask you something.  Are you some kind of masochist,
> >to be making a challenge like this?  Because I have to tell you, this
> >is going to be the easiest thing I've done all day...
> 
> >Okay, I'm back.  Took about fifteen minutes in the reference section
> >of the library where I work:
> 
> >1) Christopher R. Browning, Ph.D. University of Wisconsin-Madison,
> >   1975.  Professor of History, Pacific Lutheran University, Tacoma,
> >   Washington.  Author:  _The Path to Genocide_, Cambridge University
> >   Press, 1992.
> 
>         Degree in what field?

Well, he's got a PhD and he's a professor of history, so I may be reaching
a bit here but would history be a good guess?

Idiot.

--
Keith Morrison
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: 'Revisionists' Support Freedom Of Speech? That's a Joke.
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 21:14:47 -0300
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Matt Giwer wrote:

>         Such a misidentification was and is impossible.  It is no different from
> shooting a bull and claiming to have thought it was a coyote.  They are that
> different.

Indeed.  Like US Air Force pilots shooting down US UH-60 Blackhawks, used 
only by the US and a few Allies.  Obviously can't happen because the only
people flying Blackhawks aren't the one you are going to shoot at and it
is impossible to confuse a Blackhawk, carrying US insignia, with any other
helicopter in the world.

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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power,alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: White MEN Created Everything
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schwartz@infinet.com wrote:

> Mr. Giwer, MENSA called. They want their money back.

MENSA has denied all knowledge of a person named "Giwer"
with an alledged IQ of 163.  However, they did refer
to DENSA and said that organization might have Giwer
on file.

--
Keith Morrison
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic,alt.censorship,alt.revisionism,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: KREIBERG THE 'HUMANIST'
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Lester John Ness wrote:
> 
>         If Kreiberg and friends were to get what they think they want,
> they wouldn't be satisfied.  They'd be sure to invent some other reason to
> persecute yet other people -- blonde hair versus red hair, or some other
> equally absurd excuse.

Paraphrase from Dennis Miller:

First they get rid of the people with the wrong skin, then the wrong
language and the wrong religion.  Then they start on the people who
don't salute right or have haircuts too long and soon there's only
only guy left and he will undoubtably attack the mirror.

--
Keith Morrison
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power,alt.revisionism,alt.politics.nationalism.white
Subject: Re: Ourobouros' sample definition of the White race
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Ourobouros wrote:
> 
> In article <51vphp$o57@lendl.cc.emory.edu>, libwca@curly.cc.emory.edu says...
> >
> >Ourobouros wrote:
> >
> >: BTW, I am not German.  I assume [note] that Mr. Lund is in fact referring
> >: the Aryan race* to which most of the Germans belonged (Jews, Gypsies being
> >: notable exceptions).
> >
> >There is no "Aryan race."  There is an Aryan language group; none of
> >the languages in it is the native language of any Northern European.
> >
> So what is the Aryan language group then?

A group of languages belonging to the Indo-European family.

I would recommend against using language as some sort of descriptor
or "racial" groups.  You might run up against a problem with those
Nordic Finns who happen to have a language not related to most in
Europe.

So are they European?

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Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
>         Only murdering scum jews have sided with Israel so far.
> 
>         Are there any non-jew holohuggers who will side with the murderisng Isaelis?
> 
>         Of course not.
> 
>         Only Jews will side with murderers.

Okay, evidence to the contrary not being present I will state that the
simplest explanation is that the attack was a mistake.

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Matt Giwer wrote:

> >Hebrew, of course. You're really crazy to think IDF pilots
> >will be speaking in English?
> 
>         And you are very, very ignorant if you think one person in a hundred in Israel
> speaks Hebrew beyond Torah reading.  Hebrew died out as a living language more
> than two thousand years ago.

YES!  Yet another "My name be Matt Giwer and I is an idiot" statement.  Where to begin,
where to begin?

Oh hell, lets's just try that relatively comprehensive CIA World Factbook.

Hmm.  Says Hebrew is the official language.  That would make it taught in
schools, used by the government, business and industry.

Want to reconsider that statement, Giwer?  Or would you rather have someone
posting from Israel to humiliate you first?

--
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Ken McVay, common lying holohugger
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 17:23:31 -0300
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Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
> On 19 Sep 1996 02:02:40 GMT, yawen@enter.net (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote:
> 
> >>   mgiwer@ix.netcom.com (Matt  Giwer) writes:
> >>  On Mon, 16 Sep 1996 16:27:48, ellegon@ibm.net (Joel Rosenberg) wrote:
> 
> >>  >Who would hire him, and why?
> >
> >>      Who would I apply to and why?
> 
> >       The local MacDonald's.  Because that's about the limit of your talent.
> 
>         I am so crushed, Yaley.
> 
>         And all I have are 16 publications as compared to your sterling accomplishments
> in the field of law.  I am so, so impressed by you I could just shit all over
> the keyboard.

Of course Yale has a job.

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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power,alt.revisionism,alt.politics.nationalism.white
Subject: Re: Chiral molecules: irrelevant to apw-p, but here anyway.
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 16:57:42 -0300
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Ourobouros wrote:

> >Well, at least its clear that our New Zealand amateur anthropologist
> >isn't really a bigot.  He's just clueless when it comes to evolutionary
> >biology.
> >
> >For the unitiated the absence of "other-handed" molecules does *not*
> >mean that evolutionary theory is wrong.  What it does suggest is that
> >life originated from a common ancestor that just by chance happened to
> >use chiral molecules of one type.
> >
> Lets make a circular argument then.  I disagree.  How is it feasible for
> "chance" to form the chiral molecules in only one way without outside
> help?

Simple.  The first life on Earth used one type of chiral molecule, at
least the first life that had descendants to the present day.


> >To use another example, take arms and legs.  Is there any particular
> >advantage to having four limbs instead of six among the vertebrates?
> >The reason that the vertebrates that have limbs have four is that the
> >original stock of vertebrates evolved with four.  Since the beginnings
> >of four limbs was initiated *before* fish crawled out of the water
> >there is clearly nothing magical about living on land that indicates
> >vertebrates should only have four limbs.  That's just the way it happened.
> >If events had turned out another way six limbs might be standard.
> >
> I would like to see how fast a six-legged cheetah would run.  Any
> estimates?

Please describe how, four hundred or so million years ago nature "knew"
that there were going to be cheetahs.  All this means is that if six legs
means not as fast, animals today would not be as fast.  

> Four limbs are more efficient for larger animals.

Prove it.  On what biomechanical basis do you make that statement?  Why
not six-limbs?  Four for walking and two manipulators, or for flying
animals four legs and two dedicated wings.  It'd make a hell of a more
efficient bat.

What you are doing is arguing for predestination.  To get the animals
*now* you need for four limbs to evolve.  However there is no obvious
biological reason why six limbs could not have just as easily been the
basis.  Or, to use another example, why do vertebrates have five toes
(which can later evolve out, ie ungulates)?  Please describe the evolutionary
advantage given by five toes instead of four, three or six.  In fact, five
toes are generally considered in nature to be too many, thus many animals
lose them through evolution, yet their ancestors had them.  So if
this predestination kick you are on is real, why bother "creating" an
animal with five toes if its descendents were just going to get rid
of four of them eventually?  

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


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From: Keith Morrison 
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Ken Lewis wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 20 Sep 1996 08:18:04 GMT, mgiwer@ix.netcom.com (Matt  Giwer) wrote:
> 
> #       All of the old shit has been recycled one more time.
> #
> #       There is no change.
> #
> #       Israel murdered American citizens.
> 
> Since Mr. Stele won't answer it, maybe you will, Matt.
> 
> How about the U.S. murderes who downed an Irainian passenger killing all
> those innocent men, women and children. Shouldn't the U.S. military then be
> held to the same standards you wish to apply to the IDF?

Indeed.  Should not American cities be subjected to mass bombing in
reprisal?  After all, Giwer has suggested that this be the case fro
Israel.

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Keith Morrison
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Ourobouros wrote:

> >Yet, strangely, he has provided no evidence that would support his
> >assertion. Instead, it somehow becomes the responsibility of any who
> >question his claim to prove the obverse.
> >
>       *sigh*
> 
> Please take a chemistry (1st year) course at any University to learn
> about chiral molecules.  To people that claim to know anything about
> chemistry know about "mirror" molecules, ie., common knowledge.
> 
> >> P.S. Arguing over evolution is not relevant to any of these newsgroups, so
> >> unless you have some worthwhile "thing" to contribute let this thread die.
> >
> >Note well that it was "Stone" himself who initiated this thread. Now, for
> >some reason, he seems oddly eager to abandon it.
> >
> I did not initiate this part of the thread.  I distinctly remember saying
> earlier that I did not want to argue over whether evolution or creationism
> is correct.  I was asked why I thought chiral molecules were a major hole
> in the theory of evolution, I have given it.  Quite frankly it is up to
> my opponents to prove that it is feasible (by chance) of only one form
> of chiral molecules to exist in life.  You should keep out of arguments
> that you know nothing about.

And you should avoid starting those you have no hope of winning.

You I generally don't hold any sort of antipathy for creationists as I
can understand their wanting to believe.  I can appreciate that they think
they are living up to their faith.

On the other hand, someone like you simply disgusts me.  The hubris to
believe that there is a Deity and that you were created to be on top and
that no one else is worthy to be there with you is appalling.  I want 
nothing to do with your God.

--
Keith Morrison
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From: Keith Morrison 
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Subject: Re: HAHAHAHA!  Giwer blows it for the N+1 Time where N > infinity
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Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 21 Sep 1996 17:22:22 -0300, Keith Morrison  wrote:
> 
> >Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
> >> >Hebrew, of course. You're really crazy to think IDF pilots
> >> >will be speaking in English?
> >>
> >>         And you are very, very ignorant if you think one person in a hundred in Israel
> >> speaks Hebrew beyond Torah reading.  Hebrew died out as a living language more
> >> than two thousand years ago.
> 
> >YES!  Yet another "My name be Matt Giwer and I is an idiot" statement.  Where to begin,
> >where to begin?
> 
> >Oh hell, lets's just try that relatively comprehensive CIA World Factbook.
> 
> >Hmm.  Says Hebrew is the official language.  That would make it taught in
> >schools, used by the government, business and industry.
> 
> >Want to reconsider that statement, Giwer?  Or would you rather have someone
> >posting from Israel to humiliate you first?
> 
>         Gee, and all I said was who speaks it.  I said nothing about what feel-good law
> there might designate.

I guess he doesn't.  Let no one say I didn't give the doddering fool a chance.

> 
>         Maybe you never watch ITN or CNN to hear live coverage of government speeches
> given in english, on your TV they come through in hebrew.  Perhaps you can tell
> me just how many street and shop signs you have seen in Hebrew.  How many times
> have you seen Tel Aviv and Jerusalem spelled in hebrew characters?

Actually I've never seen CNN cover live speeches from the Knesset.  When I've seen
recorded speeches and the translators aren't covering up the original words they
seem to be in a language I don't know.  However, they definetly are not in English,
French, Spanish, German, Russian or Japanese.

Now I could call up a high school friend of mine whose sister is a correspondent for
CBC and BBC who's specialized in the Middle East in recent years.  For those who
might watch CBC from time to time it's Lise Doucet.  She was the reporter in Kabul 
when the Russians pulled out and did a multipart series on Iran for the Journal
a while back.  I could get him to ask her what language they speak in Israel.  Of
course he'd think I was a complete idiot for asking, but I could explain that Mr Giwer
wants to know.

--
Keith Morrison
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Subject: Re: Giwer Blows it for the Nth Time (was Re: Kreiberg's plans to deport Danish citizens)
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Gord McFee wrote:
> 
> In message <51im0r$ms9@lendl.cc.emory.edu> - libwca@larry.cc.emory.edu
> (william c anderson)16 Sep 1996 04:45:15 GMT writes:
> :>
> :>Matt  Giwer (mgiwer@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
> :>: On Sat, 14 Sep 1996 17:07:52 -0300, Keith Morrison 
> :>: wrote:
> :>
> :>: >  1.  A Jew cannot be a citizen of the Reich.  He has no right to
> :>                      ^^
> :>
> :>:     And just what does "can not become" have to do with "removing
> :>: citizenship from"?                ^^^^^^
> :>:
> :>
> :>Matt, this is pathetic.  Put down the bottle.  I beg you.
> 
> Be careful Bill.  This man has a 163 IQ.  He sees things on a level that you
> and I could only imagine.

I write a bit of SF for fun.  I can imagine quite a lot of things.  Nothing
quite like Giwer, mind you, but a lot of things.

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Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 17:06:10 -0300
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william c anderson wrote:
> 
> Matt  Giwer (mgiwer@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
> 
> :       I would only execute murderers like McNamara and all of the
> :       IDF in 1967 as a minimum.
> 
> People Matt wants to execute (so far):
> 
> 1. Robert McNamara
> 
> 2. Everybody who was a member of the Israeli Defense Force in 1967
> 
> 3. Danny Keren
> 
> 4. Joel Rosenberg
> 
> 5. Any Jew who supports Israel
> 
> 6. Anybody who thinks he's an antisemite

You forgot LBJ and large populations of Israeli civilians.

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Ken McVay OBC wrote:
> 
> In article <21SEP199611533532@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu>,
> dmittleman@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu (Danny Mittleman) wrote:
> 
> > I am sorry, Marty.  You want "argumentation" which is the next door
> > down the hall.  This is "getting hit on the head lessons" here.
> 
> He does not.

No!  Not another Python cascade!  The horror!

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Derek Bell wrote:
> 
> A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk (Alexander Baron) writes:
> >I've heard of the Zinoviev letter, which was a forgery, but what was the
> >Zimmerman telegram?
> 
>          A telegram from the eponymous Zimmermann to the German ambassador in
> Washington. It notified the ambassador that the Kaiser's navy was soon to
> begin unlimited submarine warfare in the Atlantic and to offer the Mexican
> president support for a Mexican invasion of the United States. (Texas, New
> Mexico and Arizona were to be offered as a reward.)
> 
>         The telegram was intercepted by British Intelligence and eventually
> decrypted. It was shown to the United States government, who when convinced of
> its authenticity, entered the war. (The U.S. government got hold of a copy
> relayed to Mexico from Washington.)

The veracity of the letter was subsequently confirmed when Zimmerman, sure that
the telegraph line was not the source of the leak (the line passed through London
and Washington before reaching Mexico City) continued to send messages through
to try and get the Mexicans to find the leak on their end.  He never believed
that the British had broken his code (or that they opened other people's mail).

--
Keith Morrison
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: WW I and US involvement
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 17:30:32 -0300
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Yale F. Edeiken wrote:

> >  >    It has been common knowledge since around 1925 that the
> Zimmerman Note
> >  >was a British forgery.
> 
> >       Please provide evidence for the assertion that the Zimmermann
> telegram
> >  is a British forgery.
> 
> >       According to the item on the VENONA decrypts at
> >  http://www.fas.org/sgp/sec51.html David Kahn regards the Zimmermann
> telegram
> >  as "one of the most important intelligence revelations of the century". From
> >  what I remember in his book, there was no mention of it being a forgery.
> 
>         I think you are dealing with a proverbial Giwerism.  He heard something
> while he was drunk. misterpreted and no claims that his version is the truth (see
> for example, Giwer's statement that he was told that the potato is part of the ritual
> Passover meal).  What has been debunked is the story that it was found by
> accident.  Evidently it was provided by the British government.

IIRC there was some debate by the British as to whether they should tell the
Americans because they thought the Americans would not believe that a high-
ranking German official would do something so damn stupid.

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Keith Morrison
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Israel murdered again
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 20:10:37 -0300
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Matt Giwer wrote:

> Ari Shavit/Haaretz/New York Times Syndication. Ari Shavit is a writer and
> columnist of the Israeli newspaper, Haaretz. He lives in Jerusalem. (Translated
> from Hebrew in "Liberation" of May 21, 1996.)

That is distinctly odd.  I could have sworn Giwer said that no one in
Israel used Hebrew except in religious worship.

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Keith Morrison
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From t08o@unb.ca Mon Sep 23 23:07:42 PDT 1996
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Subject: Re: Mike Curtis-This Bud's for you, part 2
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Danny Mittleman wrote:
> 
> mgiwer@ix.netcom.com (Matt  Giwer) wrote:
> 
>     Silly Rabbi,
> 
> >The holocaust is for kids.
> 
>     Sheesh.  :>

Someday someone's going to smack you with a rubber chicken for
those things, you know.

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Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: holohugging traitors
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 20:01:51 -0300
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Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 20 Sep 1996 08:50:43 GMT, dkeren@world.std.com (Daniel Keren) wrote:
> 
> >mgiwer@ix.netcom.com (Matt  Giwer) writes:
> ># dkeren@world.std.com (Daniel Keren) wrote:
> 
> >## Mistakes happen in wars, whether you like it or not. They
> >## happen today, such as in the Gulf War, although the technology
> >## is far superior to 1967 technology.
> 
> ># There was no war.
> 
> >You heard it here, folks.
> 
> >There was no Arab-Israeli war going on in June 8, 1967.
> 
> >I always knew the "revisionists" would get to that, sooner or
> >later.
> 
>         Even Alec Grynspan agrees there was no declaration of war.
> 
>         Why don't you and he get it straightened out before you get back to me.

This from the same man who pontificated long and loud about there
being wars that were undeclared that were nonetheless wars when I
asked him who the US Constitution gave the sole power to make a
declaration of war.

Does the term "double standard" spring to mind?

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: 'Revisionists' Support Freedom Of Speech? That's a Joke.
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 16:46:22 -0300
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Matt Giwer wrote:

> >>         Such a misidentification was and is impossible.  It is no different from
> >> shooting a bull and claiming to have thought it was a coyote.  They are that
> >> different.
> 
> >Indeed.  Like US Air Force pilots shooting down US UH-60 Blackhawks, used
> >only by the US and a few Allies.  Obviously can't happen because the only
> >people flying Blackhawks aren't the one you are going to shoot at and it
> >is impossible to confuse a Blackhawk, carrying US insignia, with any other
> >helicopter in the world.
> 
>         As you know, that happened on radar without visual sighting.  You also know that
> the Israeli pilots made several visual passes and identified the US flag before
> initiating the attack.

Do you have film of this?  Any physical evidence this occurred?  Or is it
only "eyewitness" testimoney?


--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Holohuggers reveal themselves
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 19:52:26 -0300
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Matt Giwer wrote:

> >In what way is it disloyal or traitorous to consider the Israeli attack on
> >the _Liberty_ a tragic mistake (on a par with the U.S. downing of the
> >Iranian Airbus)?
> 
>         It is disloyal and traitorous because the Israeli attack was clearly deliberate.

Please provide the written order given to the Israeli pilots, or a
recording of the radio message of the same.  Oh yeah, and film of
this attack would be necessary too.  Otherwise you are relying
solely on witnesses.

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Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


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Subject: Re: Tom Moran Can't read (again!) (Was Re: Holocaust Specifications For "Proof")
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Richard Schultz wrote:
> 
> Keith "It's a man's life posting to Usenet" Morrison (t08o@unb.ca) wrote:
> 
> : No!  Not another Python cascade!  The horror!
> 
> You're no fun anymore!

Yes I am.

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Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


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Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 21 Sep 1996 13:36:20 GMT, pgroff@txdirect.net (pgroff) wrote:
> 
> >having recently taken the advice of Mr. Mcvay, and adding that ugly
> >little troll to my kill file, I find Alt. revisionism a better place.
> 
> >Goo bye TROLL
> 
>         Another holohugger runs away.

Speaking of running away, since Mr Giwer is no longer with Netcom
he is under no legal obligation (ie no excuses) not to answer the
following questions:

1. How many bones in the human skull and pelvis and what does
any edition of _Gray's Anatomy_ say on the issue?

2. What hominid averaged 7 feet tall?

3. What is the official language of Israel?

4. When was the tape recorder invented?

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Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


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Matt Giwer wrote:

> >This from the same man who pontificated long and loud about there
> >being wars that were undeclared that were nonetheless wars when I
> >asked him who the US Constitution gave the sole power to make a
> >declaration of war.
> 
> >Does the term "double standard" spring to mind?
> 
>         Only ignorant Canadians such as yourself can do that.
> 
>         As you know, my point is the claim that there was a DECLARED war zone when there
> was no such thing.  I added that a country can not declare a war zone without
> declaring a war.
> 
>         But then you are a Canadian.

Damn straight and proud of it.  By the by, when was the British declaration
of war made against the Argentinians in 1982?  I'm really curious because
I kept hearing about this "war zone" around the Falklands but I can't really
remember a formal declaration of war.

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Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
> On 23 Sep 1996 22:08:01 +0100, dbell@maths.tcd.ie (Derek Bell) wrote:
> 
> >mgiwer@ix.netcom.com (Matt  Giwer) writes:
> >>[more crap]
> 
> >       Come on, where's that evidence to substantiate the claim that the
> >Zimmermann telegram is a forgery?!
> 
>         I am looking for some gradeschool history texts to refer you to so that you can
> get filled in on what you missed.

Good.  And while you are there perhaps you can take the time to
find out who Raul Wallenberg was, when the term "United Nations"
came into use and what authority is granted sole constitutional
power to declare war in the US.

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Christopher Henrik Lund wrote:

> Or are you claiming that there is a conspiracy out to silence those that do
> find any differences? Kind of like "Project Blue Book", eh? And Holden's
> paleontological conspiracy...

The picture of Worm Boy and Ted out trying to count feral flying chickens
suddenly springs to mind.

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Keith Morrison
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Matt Giwer wrote:

> >> Ari Shavit/Haaretz/New York Times Syndication. Ari Shavit is a writer and
> >> columnist of the Israeli newspaper, Haaretz. He lives in Jerusalem. (Translated
> >> from Hebrew in "Liberation" of May 21, 1996.)
> 
> >That is distinctly odd.  I could have sworn Giwer said that no one in
> >Israel used Hebrew except in religious worship.
> 
>         I said that 1 in 100 SPEAK it.
> 
>         You are truly a deliberate liar.
> 
>         But then, you are also a holohugger so it was already known that you are a liar.

Time for Yet Another Statistically Invalid Poll:

All those who have ever heard of a nation where the majority of the people
read one language but speak another please say "aye".

[insert sounds of crickets chirping]

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Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Ken McVay, common lying holohugger
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 20:51:58 -0300
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Gord McFee wrote:

> Giwer will of course immediately post the references for those 16
> publications.

Thanks, Gord, I almost forgot.

So Giwer, how about giving us references to your published works?
I can guarantee those journals will have been never so read.

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william c anderson wrote:

> : >> >> Keith "It's a man's life posting to Usenet" Morrison (t08o@unb.ca) wrote:
> : >> >> : No!  Not another Python cascade!  The horror!
> : >> >> You're no fun anymore!
> : >> >Yes I am.
> : >> No you're not.
> : >Yes he is
> : No he isn't
> Oh, look, this is ridiculous
No it isn't.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Wed Sep 25 19:37:09 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Impressions of the evidence and the reality
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 20:59:35 -0300
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Matt The Rather Pathetic Troll babbled:

> >Instead of composing long fantasies like this one, why not answer some of
> >the questions put to you in the past, Mr. Giwer?
> >
> >How many bones in the head?
> >Where was the Cambodian Embassy in Washington during the Vietnam War?
> >Is something "proved" by evidence or lack of evidence?
> 
>         Silly goose.  Leave the thinking for men.  Women are obviously not up to it.

Well, I guess we all know who's not getting any.  Of course the decided
lack off gonads in regard to his not answering questions would make the
act impossible anyway.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Fri Sep 27 00:55:10 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: holohugging traitors
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 20:49:07 -0300
Organization: University of New Brunswick
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Matt Giwer wrote:

> >>      But then you are a Canadian.
> 
> >So am I, and what's that got to do with anything?
> 
>         Such a candid admission.  Why would you do that to yourself?

*YAWN*  Oh gosh golly gee whiz silly ol'Matt is picking on us poor Canadians
again.  However shall we get over it?

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Fri Sep 27 08:58:29 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Tom Moran Can't read (again!) (Was Re: Holocaust Specifications For "Proof")
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 20:51:23 -0300
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Ken McVay OBC wrote:
> 
> >> : >> >> : No!  Not another Python cascade!  The horror!
> >> : >> >> You're no fun anymore!
> >> : >> >Yes I am.
> >> : >> No you're not.
> >> : >Yes he is
> >> : No he isn't
> >> Oh, look, this is ridiculous
> >No it isn't
> It is, you know.

Moran was talking to Moran and Moran does not understand
this.  What is "he"?  Who is "it"?

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: SEND'IM TO DA LAND!
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 20:53:36 -0300
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Matt Giwer wrote:

> > "Keren, the slimey, murderous, lying traitor to everything American.
> > He is a jew and his loyalty is to Israel not the the US.
> > It is his kind that need to be sent to the land where their loyalties lie."
> 
> >One can only wonder what made the twit think Dr. Keren was an
> >American? Boy, if _I_ had an IQ of 163, _I_ would have figured
> >out where he was from by cleverly reading his writing!
> 
> >Whaddamoran.
> 
>         If he is a Canadian then his loyalty to Israel is understood.

Oh, the agony!  Oh, the humiliation!  Oh the unspeakable pain of
hysterical laughter as Giwer makes odd sentences again!

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Sat Sep 28 16:05:18 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: holohugging traitors
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 18:54:13 -0300
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Matt Giwer wrote:

> >Damn straight and proud of it.  By the by, when was the British declaration
> >of war made against the Argentinians in 1982?  I'm really curious because
> >I kept hearing about this "war zone" around the Falklands but I can't really
> >remember a formal declaration of war.
> 
>         I did not keep the date.  It was a limited declaration regarding matters
> pertaining to the liberation of the Falklands.

I'm sorry but as you have consistently claimed, your personal testimony
about what happened ain't worth squat.  Please cite a source that can be
independently verified.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: the four pieces of physical evidence
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 19:06:37 -0300
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Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
>      The four pieces of physical evidence of the extermination of
> 12 million people.
> 
> 1)  Ausrotten speech, suspected of being by Himmler, exists only
> as a recording, not known if ever presented
> 
> 2)  Wannsee Protocol, which discusses forced emigration but
> otherwise appears to have been unimplemented
> 
> 3)  Vergassnungkeller letter, which uses a word form theretofore
> unknown in the German language that is construed to mean gas
> chamber despite the composing words and the structure of the
> sentence in which it is used.
> 
> 4)  insecticide traces, enough said

Which is exactly four more pieces of physical evidence than have been
ever presented to support the assertion that the Israelis deliberately
attacked the Liberty, another position Giwer swears is true.

Interesting dichotomy with regard to his requirements for proof, no?

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Sat Sep 28 17:46:32 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
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Subject: Re: Tom Moran Can't read (again!) (Was Re: Holocaust Specifications For "Proof")
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Ken McVay OBC wrote:
> 
> >#>> >> : >> >> : No!  Not another Python cascade!  The horror!
> >#>> >> : >> >> You're no fun anymore!
> >#>> >> : >> >Yes I am.
> >#>> >> : >> No you're not.
> >#>> >> : >Yes he is
> >#>> >> : No he isn't
> >#>> >> Oh, look, this is ridiculous
> >#>> >No it isn't
> >#>> It is, you know.
> >#>Oh no it isn't.
> >#Is too!
> >Two what?
> two moran
It is not too moran.  I've only referred to myself in the first person.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


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From: Keith Morrison 
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Subject: Re: Liberty attack, a more likely reason
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 17:47:08 -0300
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Alec Grynspan wrote:
> 
> In <52k3vt$pp5@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net>, mgiwer@ix.netcom.com (Matt  Giwer) writes:
> 
> >We were close enough to see the town mosque with the naked eye.  With
> >binoculars we could make out individual buildings and might have seen
> >the executions if we had looked in the right place.
> 
> IOW - Ennes claims that the Liberty was more than 12 nautical miles from
> shore, but close enough to watch a purported war crime?

Odd.  Once upon a time some revisionists claimed that reports of people able
to see the smokestack of a Krema at Auschwitz were pure bunk because they
were 12 miles or so away.  I take it that the shape of the planet, the path
of light or the acuity of human vision between Poland and the Mediterranean
altered somewhere in between.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


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From: Keith Morrison 
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Subject: Re: Amen, Reverend, Amen.
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Charles Don Hall wrote:

> I think that you should apologize for giving Mr. Schloedel
> (and his dog Megan) such potentially dangerous advice. What
> do you think?
> 
> Maybe as penance, you could loan him some money to file
> his lawsuit. You're rich, right? You retired *voluntarily*,
> because you have so much money that you don't need to work,
> right?

As penance he might do time.  By counselling Schoedel to break the
law, Giwer himself has committed a criminal offense.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


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From: Keith Morrison 
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Subject: Re: Re Schoedel states his case
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Matt Giwer wrote:

>         More than that your constant protests are a source of amusement if not sexual
> arousal for them.  You are giving them satisfaction by doing so.  Your best bet
> is to take up hacking and see if you can cease the harm being deliberately done
> to you in that manner.

Oh oh.  Matt went and did it again.

Section 430 of the Criminal Code of Canada states:

(1.1) Every one who commits mischief who willfully 

(a) destroy or alters data; 

(b) renders data meaningless, useless or ineffective; 

(c) obstructs, interrupts or interferes with the lawful use of data; or 

(d) obstructs, interrupts or interferes with any person in the lawful
use 
    of data or denies access to data to an person who is entitled to
access thereto. 

(5) Everyone who commits mischief in relation to data 

(a) is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a
term not 
    exceeding ten years; or 

(b) is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction. 

That would apply to anyone caught hacking Nizkor.  However, in
Mattie-poo's case
the applicable section is 22 of the Code, "Person Counselling Offense". 
By telling
someone they should commit an illegal act Matt has himself committed a
crime 
under Canadian law.  As the offense, if it occurred, is directed against
a Canadian
citizen and a computer residing in Canada, the law applies.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Tue Oct  1 01:39:12 PDT 1996
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Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 19:28:45 -0300
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Yale F. Edeiken wrote:
> 
> >   rblackmore@juno.com writes:
> 
> 
> >  >    Answer:  rblackmore has evidently not researched it.  The modern
> >  >  treatment is nutrition and intenstive fluid replacement.  Kramer provided neither.  He
> >  >  cut off the water.  Medially speaking that was certain to kill those suffering from
> >  >  dystentery.
> 
> >  Yes, this is what I have already said.  However, you have already stated that
> >  all Kramer need have done was removing the putrifying corpses from the
> >  stagnant water in the compounds and everyone could then guzzle water to their
> >  heart's content.....By the way, fluid replacement in this case would have to be
> >  administered intravenously.
> 
>         Where did the water the British supplied come from?

Ice from Antarctica thoughtfully provided by the Nazi UFOnauts?

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Tue Oct  1 01:39:13 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Tank Girl, the holocaust sequal
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 19:32:29 -0300
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Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
>         You should see this, folks.
> 
>         The evil one laughs demonically.
> 
>         The evil one has short, blond hair.  (Aryan, perhaps?)
> 
>         Poor tank girl is sexually abused.
> 
>         She is forced to work under inhuman conditions.
> 
>         There is nothing in this comic book fantasy movie different from the stories of
> the evil Nazis.

Quite the cultural dilletante is our Giwer, isn't he?

What's next, an in depth and psychologically-based profile of "Amazon
Women on the Moon"?

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca



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