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From t08o@unb.ca Sun Jul  7 12:18:45 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: [Fwd: NO nerve gas?]
Date: Sun, 07 Jul 1996 00:30:54 -0300
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Matt Giwer wrote:

>         It was precisely this matter that my skepticism about the gassing.  I
> had no idea what gas was used.  I had only heard about gassing.
> 
>         But I had heard of the times involved and nerve gas appeared to the
> likely agent.
> 
>         When it turned out to be plain old cyanide the entire house of cards
> collapsed.

Tabun was the first dedicated nerve agent, the second, Sarin, only 
having been produced in test quantities and the third, Soman, was in 
developement when the material was seized by the Soviets who were the first 
to actually produce it.  Tabun, Sarin and Soman have the NATO codenames
GA, GB and GD.  Sarin was NATO's standard nerve agent until the developement 
of the V series nerve gasses.

They were developed from insecticides and work by blocking 
neurotransmitters, essentially causing the nervous system to simply shut 
down and the body to die.  Field antidote is usually atropine which causes 
neurotransmitter release to increase, hopefully more than the nerve agent 
can block.

Sarin has a very low natural detoxification level, thus can build up in the 
body to fatal levels.  It is persistant in enclosed structures and the 
recommended method of decontamination is by chemical treatment or live steam 
to accelerate the natural breakdown.  Left by itself it may last in 
significant concentrations for several days and also is denser than air, 
thus may tend to concentrate in low places (like cellars).

Field use requires full protective gear (gas mask and enclosed sealed suit).

Reasons Sarin might be used in a gas chamber: 

    Deadly as all hell (faster than Zyklon B, less concentration required) 

    Exposure to skin and inhalation both possibly fatal (Zyklon B usually 
     only fatal after inhalation)


Reasons Sarin would be impractical in a gas chamber:

    Full protective gear required by operators of chamber

        -Zyklon B requires gas mask and gloves


    Bodies would have to be decontaminated before removal; if not, everyone 
     in the camp near the bodies would require full protective gear

        -Zyklon B dissipates rapidly, is non-persistant, only gas
         mask required for protection

    Chamber would require sophisticated decontamination system

        -Recommended decontamination of rooms with hydrogen cyanide is 
         simple ventilation

    Sarin stored and used in liquid form

        -Zyklon B stored and used in solid form 

    Agent was still Top Secret

        -Zyklon B was a commercially available product already in mass
         production

    Military inexperienced in use of nerve agents

        -Zyklon B had been in regular use for some time

    Spill of Sarin would be disasterous to unprotected troops and civilians,
     no feasible manner to clean up except waiting and possibly chemical
     decontamination

        -Spill of Zyklon B can be cleaned up with untrained people wearing
         gas masks and gloves putting the pellets back into the cans.  Highly
         reactive nature of hydrogen cyanide would not permit spread very
         far beyond accident site except with release of enormous amounts of
         the gas.

    and finally,

    No evidence that personnel who first suggested using Zyklon B were even
     aware that Sarin existed.  As stated, the agent was Top Secret even at
     the end of the war.  Once gassing with Zyklon B was proven effective,
     higher Nazi officials may not have seen the need to try the new,
     unproven nerve agent.  This also prevents possible security leaks to the
     Allies as the chemical would have to have been shipped out of Germany
     proper, where an accident or partisan activity may have caused the
     existance of the chemical to become known.  Shipping a pest control
     agent to a camp would not raise suspicion.  Shipping a military chemical
     designed specifically to kill people would raise questions and indicate
     blatantly what was happening in those camps.


It is left as an exercise to the reader to determine why the Nazis may have 
selected Zyklon B over Tabun, SArin or Soman.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Sun Jul  7 12:22:12 PDT 1996
Article: 35442 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.white-power,alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.discrimination,can.politics,alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: YES!  Supreme Court Upholds Lower Court AFFIRMATIVE ACTION IS RACIST!
Date: Sun, 07 Jul 1996 15:04:32 -0300
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Danny Mittleman wrote:
> 
>     Who needs the Comedy Channel when we have usenet?
> 
> turd@whitehouse.gov (William J. Clinton) writes...
> >As soon as Plessy-Ferguson is reinstated, we shall be home free. This will
> >require better appointees, I believe...
> >
> >We must also begin to replenish the world's supply of Europeans. We are
> >losing ground, and it is entirely our own fault. Large families in the
> >range of 9-12 children for 60 years will be required. We MUST do this.
> >Otherwise, our race and values will die out...
> >
> >Not that I hate blacks....

Actually, I wonder how many European women got a laugh out of this,
seeing as this twit obviously wants 'em pregnant for most of their
child-bearing years.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Mon Jul  8 08:49:53 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
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Subject: Re: YES!  Supreme Court Upholds Lower Court AFFIRMATIVE ACTION IS RACIST!
Date: Sun, 07 Jul 1996 15:04:32 -0300
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Danny Mittleman wrote:
> 
>     Who needs the Comedy Channel when we have usenet?
> 
> turd@whitehouse.gov (William J. Clinton) writes...
> >As soon as Plessy-Ferguson is reinstated, we shall be home free. This will
> >require better appointees, I believe...
> >
> >We must also begin to replenish the world's supply of Europeans. We are
> >losing ground, and it is entirely our own fault. Large families in the
> >range of 9-12 children for 60 years will be required. We MUST do this.
> >Otherwise, our race and values will die out...
> >
> >Not that I hate blacks....

Actually, I wonder how many European women got a laugh out of this,
seeing as this twit obviously wants 'em pregnant for most of their
child-bearing years.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Mon Jul  8 08:49:54 PDT 1996
Article: 48868 of alt.revisionism
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From: Keith Morrison 
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Subject: Re: Ahhhh...incest is best for j*ws
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schwartz@infinet.com wrote:
> 
> In article <4r3edb$38sm@usenetz1.news.prodigy.com>, EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M
> Huber) wrote:
> 
> > Subject: Inbreeding and birth defects
> > APP 06/27/96
> 
> What, pray tell, is the "APP"?

Associated Pinhead Press.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Mon Jul  8 08:49:55 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: The Axis Bunch
Date: Sun, 07 Jul 1996 00:17:12 -0300
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Danny Mittleman wrote:

>     Here's the story
>     of a bunch of Nazis
>     who hated all those world-controlling Jooos,
>     All of them had brains of air
>     like their Fuhrer
>     And they saluted nice, too.
> 
>     Its a story
>     of a bunch of Fascists
>     nostalgic for the Roman Empire days,
>     They made the trains run on time
>     For Il Duce
>     But their army stank.
> 
>     Then one day when the Fuhrer met Benito
>     And divided up their conquests over lunch.
>     They signed a pact declaring non-agression
>     And out of this begat the Axis Bunch.
> 
>     The Axis Bunch...

Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale
A tale of some loony twits
That started back in `45
After the Reich was whipped
These people believed a conspiracy
And that the Jews weren't dead
Everyone around them thought they were soft in the head
That they were soft in the head

The Jews, they run the world,
The loonies all cried out
The Holocaust was a forgery
Screamed the pea-brained louts
Screamed the pea-brained louts

Revisionists then hit the Net
With Dan Gannon, Vicksell too,
Hoffman Squared, Friedrich Berg
Ricky Joshua, Giwer and Tom Moran
But they all leave after a while!

Now this is the tale of our Revisionists
They've been here for a long long time
They've never actually proven a point
And usually just post and whine
They'll misquote and make facts untrue
And lie right through their teeth
Forge documents and omit lines
And hope no one will see
No facts, no truth, no documents,
Just a Jewish conspiracy
Like previous revisionist scholars
AS silly as can be.
So join us everday my friends,
You're sure to get a smile,
>From  our resident revisionist scholars
Here in Lunatic's Aisle!

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Mon Jul  8 08:49:55 PDT 1996
Article: 48890 of alt.revisionism
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Now I'm *really* confused. . .
Date: Sun, 07 Jul 1996 00:41:33 -0300
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Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
> dkeren@world.std.com (Daniel Keren) wrote:
> 
> >I see that the mentally retarded Matt Giwer has now created
> >a new kind of spam: he posts the same article not only dozens
> >of times a day, but also a few times per article.
> 
> >This does prove that mentally retarded people can spam
> >newsgroups and, possibly, destroy them. Score one for the
> >great electronic democracy. He may be too stupid to find a
> >job, but he can destroy a newsgroup.
> 
>         I respond to personal attacks against me with attacks against your
> precious gassing.
> 
>         What problem do you have with that?

Before one asks questions, one should answer them.

How many bones in the human skull, Mr Giwer?

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Mon Jul  8 08:49:56 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: The Program
Date: Sun, 07 Jul 1996 00:48:59 -0300
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Gord McFee wrote:
     ^^^^^
   
> It's deliberate.  See, even though so many of the Nizkor gang are not
> Jewish, the deniers like to claim they all are.  So, in order to feed their
> paranoia, and keep them off the streets, ZOG has ordained that we must
> "judify" our names.  What is really the difference between a Jewish person
> and one of their lackeys?  None, of course, so we might as well have the
> name, as well as the game.  You will understand when the indoctrination
> sessions are over.  You WILL understand!
> 
> --
> Gord McFee
       ^^^^^

Um, what was that about "judifing"?

--
Keith Morrisonovich
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Mon Jul  8 08:49:57 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: AN ADMISSION OF PERFIDIOUS GUILT
Date: Sun, 07 Jul 1996 15:24:25 -0300
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Michael P. Stein wrote:

> >       There is physical evidence of the Dresden firebombing.
> 
>     There may be bomb craters.  There may be evidence of a fire.  But
> establishing the causal link between (a) and (b)?  Or the intentionality
> of the fire?  What physical evidence do you have for that?  None, of
> course.

On the other hand, would he care to demonstrate why Dresden was hit
by bombs instead of a multiple meteorite strike?

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Mon Jul  8 08:49:58 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.yugoslavia,alt.current-events.bosnia
Subject: Re: Atrocity Denial
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Marko Tesla wrote:

> : Especially in light of recent testimony from one of the perpetrators
> : at the IWCT this week.
> 
> : --
> : Keith Morrison
> : t08o@Unb.ca
> 
> Kieth If you can reffer to theese individuals as perpetrators before they
> have been found guilty of there alleged crimes ,BY A FAIR COURT or even a
> kangaroo court , I am very much impressed with your legal abillities.

Well, the fact that he *admitted* doing it may have coloured 
my perceptions...

And also the threats of Serbs against investigators on site,
thus requiring a heavy UN defense force.  Pretty odd them
threatening to get violent if there is nothing there to be
found by the forensics teams, no?

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.bonehead.matt-giwer
Subject: Re: Seven Questions Matt Giwer won't answer (Round 4)
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Derek Bell wrote:
> 
>         Not only did Matt Giwer refuse to answer the questions Ken asked, he
> seems to have posted a copyright violation (i.e. the Monty Python spam sketch).

Well he had to post the original sketch because he's tried once
to do a parody of this newsgroup using Python as a basis and quite
frankly it wasn't funny.  He hopes that by posting real funny material,
albeit having nothing to do with anything, he might get a laugh.

AS opposed to the hysterical laughter which greets one of his "serious"
posts.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Mon Jul  8 08:49:59 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Gallows humor
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Daniel Clinton wrote:

[snip]

> I don't think the above matches the tune of the song! Get it right,
> man!
> 
> >>Revisionists then hit the Net
> 
> The ship set ground on the shore of this uncharted desert isle does
> not equal "Revisionists then hit the Net." This is really ticking me
> off.

[snip]


> What the hell was that? You're totally ignoring the way the song goes!
> Thanks for ruining my day, you hoser!

Well, if the slight alterations are that insulting, perhaps you
might take it up in the newsgroup alt.I.need.a.life?

followups to alt.some.people.have.no.sense.of.humor.or.a.clue.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Mon Jul  8 19:56:42 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: [Fwd: NO nerve gas?]
Date: Sun, 07 Jul 1996 15:14:30 -0300
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Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 07 Jul 1996 00:30:54 -0300, Keith Morrison  wrote:
> 
> >Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
> >>         It was precisely this matter that my skepticism about the gassing.  I
> >> had no idea what gas was used.  I had only heard about gassing.
> >>
> >>         But I had heard of the times involved and nerve gas appeared to the
> >> likely agent.
> >>
> >>         When it turned out to be plain old cyanide the entire house of cards
> >> collapsed.
> 
> >Tabun was the first dedicated nerve agent, the second, Sarin, only
> >having been produced in test quantities and the third, Soman, was in
> >developement when the material was seized by the Soviets who were the first
> >to actually produce it.  Tabun, Sarin and Soman have the NATO codenames
> >GA, GB and GD.  Sarin was NATO's standard nerve agent until the developement
> >of the V series nerve gasses.
> 
> >They were developed from insecticides and work by blocking
> >neurotransmitters, essentially causing the nervous system to simply shut
> >down and the body to die.  Field antidote is usually atropine which causes
> >neurotransmitter release to increase, hopefully more than the nerve agent
> >can block.
> 
>         You fail to make any points here.

I am providing background information so that the reader may render
a somewhat informed judgement on the topic.  I'm well aware that putting
things in context and providing information is a foreign concept to
you, but I have no hope of ever making you acknowledge anything.


> >Sarin has a very low natural detoxification level, thus can build up in the
> >body to fatal levels.  It is persistant in enclosed structures and the
> >recommended method of decontamination is by chemical treatment or live steam
> >to accelerate the natural breakdown.  Left by itself it may last in
> >significant concentrations for several days and also is denser than air,
> >thus may tend to concentrate in low places (like cellars).
> 
> >Field use requires full protective gear (gas mask and enclosed sealed suit).
> 
> >Reasons Sarin might be used in a gas chamber:
> 
> >    Deadly as all hell (faster than Zyklon B, less concentration required)
> 
> >    Exposure to skin and inhalation both possibly fatal (Zyklon B usually
> >     only fatal after inhalation)
> 
> >Reasons Sarin would be impractical in a gas chamber:
> 
> >    Full protective gear required by operators of chamber
> 
> >        -Zyklon B requires gas mask and gloves
> 
>         Save that the reported times to death are on the same order as those
> reported for HCN.  I have read reports of everything from instantaneous
> to two days.  They accumulate around 10-20 minutes.  That is nerve gas.
> 
>         I can not change that.

Nor can I change the fact that you so blatently omitted the subsequent reasons
I posted as to why Zyklon B would be a technically and operationally better
agent than a nerve agent such as Sarin.  Why don't you puzzle those reasons
out for a while and then get back to me when you actually have something
interesting to say other than insipid comments and non-sequitors?

--
Keith Morrison
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From t08o@unb.ca Mon Jul  8 19:56:42 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: What end serve Mr. Giwer's spams?
Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 19:30:32 -0300
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Nele Abels wrote:
> 
> mgiwer@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> >       Anyone want to explain this one?
> 
> No, no. How about explaining this:
> 
> mgiwer@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> [...]
> >>Race neutral?  I'm sure this will be read with great astonishment by those
> >>who are actually self-described Nazis, as well as anyone else who knows
> >>anything about National Socialism and its history.
> 
> Your silence is telling, Mr. Giwertroll. Come on, were is your evidence? I will consider
> any silence as your admitting that you have been babbling on things you don't know
> anything about and will react accordingly.

I believe a great deal of things are being admitted right now...

Looks like Matt decamped.  Pity.  I was ready to reel him in yet again.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.bonehead.matt-giwer,alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: MATT GIWER REPORT FOR JUL 3-4: 11.1% / 20%
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Rich Graves wrote:
> 
> jamie@voyager.net (Jamie McCarthy) writes:
> >jamie@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca wrote:
> >
> >>          Articles from Matt Giwer: 49 (11.1%)
> >
> >Well, it looks like the Giwer is getting back to tolerable levels:
> >twenty-five a day, or so.
> 
> *No* articles from Giwer (other than cancels) have hit stanford.edu in the
> last 18 hours. I think he's given up and gone home.

I think you're right.  He has not even responded to obvious bait.

Well, I hooked my limit of trolls, so I guess I'm happy.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@Unb.ca


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From: Keith Morrison 
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Subject: Re: Who would be Gannon?
Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 19:21:18 -0300
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Daniel Keren wrote:
> 
> Ken, you forgot another Gannon:
> 
> 11) Claim you have a "full-blooded Jewess" for a girlfriend.

Ah, but that's a generic thing.  Similar concepts (a close
acquaintence is a Jew, ergo I don't hate them) have been
heard from many people.

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From t08o@unb.ca Tue Jul  9 12:46:13 PDT 1996
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Subject: Re: [Fwd: NO nerve gas?]
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ANGUS MCLELLAN wrote:

> So, why not "plain old cyanide" ?

The information has been posted many times before, including,
among other things, a direct comparison between Sarin as a
representative nerve gas and HCN in the Zyklon B form as well
as a list of most of the chemical agents available at the
time and why HCN would still be a good choice.

However Matt Giwer, in a fit of Raven's Myopia (tm) has seen
fit to not have seen these and when he does, responds to only
a single point with a non-sequitor.

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Subject: Re: Phenol or Gas
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Matt Giwer wrote:

> >Well, because the Nazis weren't "experimenting" with phenol shots. The
> >Nazis used phenol shots as a method of execution for the sick and
> >invalided in the infirmaries. As to the time it took to kill- a phenol
> >shot to the heart killed in a matter of seconds.
> 
>         But where did they get the six inch needles to reach the heart?  Or the
> hollow two inch nails to get between the ribs?

Gee Matt, from medical supplies?  I suppose you're going
to start babbling about how the phenol is yet another lie
spread by the holohuggers blah blah blah...

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Keith Morrison
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From: Keith Morrison 
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Subject: Re: Do Real Men Scream? (was Re: 'I was afraid of Bothmann
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Hilary Ostrov wrote:

> >> Dear me.  I do hope Mr. McVay is out there somewhere, able to translate this
> >> latest contribution.  A "psyrink".
> 
> >A psychiatric skating rink?
> 
> Quite likely, Mark!  After all, the troll is always on very thin ice!

Nah, it was a typo.  He meant "psirink", you know, a frozen pond
with telepathy.

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Subject: Re: AN ADMISSION OF PERFIDIOUS GUILT
Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 19:45:49 -0300
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Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 07 Jul 1996 15:24:25 -0300, Keith Morrison  wrote:
> 
> >Michael P. Stein wrote:
> 
> >> >       There is physical evidence of the Dresden firebombing.
> >>
> >>     There may be bomb craters.  There may be evidence of a fire.  But
> >> establishing the causal link between (a) and (b)?  Or the intentionality
> >> of the fire?  What physical evidence do you have for that?  None, of
> >> course.
> 
> >On the other hand, would he care to demonstrate why Dresden was hit
> >by bombs instead of a multiple meteorite strike?
> 
>         Did god provide the bomb sight films?

Obviously faked.  Why would anyone take pictures or make any kind
of notes about a crime they were in the progress of committing?
Did at any time those films show a big sign saying "Welcome to
Dresden"?  Can you produce one of these alledged bombers?

(See, it's easy to use the Revisionist Method!)

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Keith Morrison
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Subject: Re: BRADLEY SMITH'S WEBSITE IS SHUT DOWN
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Yale F. Edeiken wrote:
> 
> >   tm@pacificnet.net (tom moran) writes:
> 
> >       We can only wait to see what action you or Nizkor will take to
> >  challenge this iniquous slashing of our 1st Amendment.
> 
>         You still haven't explained how the First Amendment has been
> affected.  That's L'il Tommy.  As Francis Bacon once wrote: "a tale told by an
> idiot, full of sound an fury and signifying nothing."

No no no, that was Mark Twain.  Haven't you read "Moran's Little Book
of Quotations and the People Who Said them"?

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Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


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Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Phenol or Gas
Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 20:21:28 -0300
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Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 07 Jul 1996 18:13:41 -0300, Keith Morrison  wrote:
> 
> >Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
> >> >Well, because the Nazis weren't "experimenting" with phenol shots. The
> >> >Nazis used phenol shots as a method of execution for the sick and
> >> >invalided in the infirmaries. As to the time it took to kill- a phenol
> >> >shot to the heart killed in a matter of seconds.
> >>
> >>         But where did they get the six inch needles to reach the heart?  Or the
> >> hollow two inch nails to get between the ribs?
> 
> >Gee Matt, from medical supplies?  I suppose you're going
> >to start babbling about how the phenol is yet another lie
> >spread by the holohuggers blah blah blah...
> 
>         Nice try but I did not ask about anything you said.
> 
>         Have you EVER seen a six inch needle?  Have you ever seen the two inch
> nail?

A six inch needle?  Sure.  I don't hang around hospitals so I can't
say what sizes they have in stock, but I know vets working on farm
animals carry a variety of needles, some rather large.  At least the
one who visited my grandfather's farm did.

And a two inch nail?  Try either Ace Hardware or the local cosmetics
counter.

--
Keith Morrison
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Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Phenol or Gas
Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 20:26:45 -0300
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Matt Giwer wrote:

>         OF course the above is what you will repeat forever and ever but in fact
> I only pointed out the lack of a mention of such a needle.

Hey, when I was in the military I recieved tetanus shots.

Ah, but in the preceeding sentence, I neglected to mention the needle!  Ergo
the sentence is false.

Or else it might be that for most of the literate human species mention
of injections or shots tends to indicate the presence of a needle.

Then again, I can see Giwer's point.  Imagine someone saying something
silly like "He was killed with a .44 Magnum."  Clearly this cannot have
occurred unless the man was bludgeoned to death with the pistol since
he would have been killed with the bullet, not the gun.  No mention
of the bullet he was shot with, therefore no shooting.

Gee, and this time yesterday I though Matt had finally caught a clue...

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


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Subject: Re: BRADLEY SMITH'S WEBSITE SHUT DOWN
Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 20:37:32 -0300
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Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 8 Jul 1996 00:32:36 GMT, dkeren@world.std.com (Daniel Keren)
> wrote:
> 
> >CODOH@msn.com (Bradley Smith) writes:
> 
> ># Even little Danny Keren
> 
> >Hmm. "Little"? In terms of body weight? Compared to you? Sure.
> 
> >Hope I'm still "fit for work", nontheless? Can still do 'bout
> >50 push-ups and 15 pull-ups, on a good day.
> 
>         I am, as are we all, so impressed.
> 
>         A strong back is a terrible thing to waste.

So's 163 IQ points but the world seems to have managed to run
without any contribution from Giwer.

--
Keith Morrison
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Joe Lockhart wrote:
> 
> jmarynow@idirect.com (John Marynowicz) wrote:
> >akotov1@umbc.edu (Alexandre Kotov) wrote:
> >
> >>In article ,
> >>John Marynowicz  wrote:
> 
> >
> >We are all the same.  We are human.  We all come from the same source.
> >Even the bible tells us so, as do all other great  spiritual texts
> >from around the world.
> >
> 
> And the Bible verse that said that is???

"And the second is like unto it, thou shalt love thy neigbour as thyself."
         Matthew 22:39

If you would prefer a more outright statement about all people springing
>from  the same source I believe Genesis 1:27 might suffice.

--
Keith Morrison
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: AN ADMISSION OF PERFIDIOUS GUILT
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 18:45:50 -0300
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Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 9 Jul 1996 18:40:16 GMT, dkeren@world.std.com (Daniel Keren)
> wrote:
> 
> >mgiwer@ix.netcom.com (Matt Giwer) writes:
> 
> ># Did god provide the bomb sight films?
> 
> >But "revisionists" always say "photographs can be faked".
> >Surely, so can films.
> 
>         I am aware of no pictures that any holohugger has presented that have
> ever been subjected to the claim that they are faked.  Perhaps you can
> provide a source for this groundless claim of yours?  I thought not.

Try looking up the name "Butz, Arthur R" sometime.  I understand he is
mentioned on the web site that also has that "Tale of Two Gassings"
page you so kindly posted the HTML code for.

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Keith Morrison
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From: Keith Morrison 
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Subject: Re: Perry Broad Testifies About Auschwitz
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 19:13:13 -0300
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Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 09 Jul 96 17:04:11 GMT, @stud-mailer.uni-marburg.de wrote:
> 
> >mgiwer@ix.netcom.com (Matt Giwer) wrote:
> >>      You are trying a fool's game and not answering the mail.
> 
> >Funny that you mention it. Would you mind stopping your fool's game and answer this
> >teeny-weeny question:
> 
> >Where in national socialist writings did you find the basis for your claim that the Nazis
> >were not racist?
> 
>         As a German whose parents wanted to murder all Jews you have little room
> to ask such questions.
> 
>         Your parents were murders as were your grandparents and you have no room
> to talk until you apologize for their murders before this group and to
> tell us all that you have accused them of being murderers to their
> faces.

How about me asking.  I'm not German.

Where in National Socialist writings did you find the basis for your claim
that the Nazis were not racist?

And while we're in a questioning mood...

What does "oxidation state" mean?

How many bones does _Gray's Anatomy_ indicate in the human skull?

What are the hard parts of forams made of?

What member of the hominid family averaged seven feet tall?

When were tape recorders invented?

Where was the Cambodian embassy in the US during the Khmer Rouge regime?

--
Keith Morrison
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tom moran wrote:
> 
>         Legacy of the world that plays chess thinking only one move at a
> time.
> 
>                    "Tons of chemical weapons dumped by
>                    the Allies after World War II,
>                    have nudged the sea to the brink of
>                     catastrophe, scientists say."

And this proves the Holocaust did not happen because...?

--
Keith Morrison
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: It was amazing
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 19:05:01 -0300
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Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
>         Some holohugging idiot gave me the reverse of the "cider in your eye"
> challenge.
> 
>         Were I looking for suckers, I should have said "I can prove the fire
> bombing of Dresden to standards that do not exist for massive gassings."
> But I did not.
> 
>         Rather first some fool challenged me to prove WW II occurred and I
> ignored the foolish challenge.   Next another (or the same) fool
> challenged me to prove the fire bombing of Dresden occurred.
> 
>         First I changed the ground rules from proof to the evidence.  Proof is
> for mathematics, not for the human condition.
> 
>         Then came the asshole holohuggers playing their ancient games.
> 
>         First they claimed with transparent falsity that Dresden was solely
> based upon testimony as is their holocaust.
> 
>         Next they claimed that one document of questionable origin was equal to
> thousands of documents and press releases regarding the raid.
> 
>         Finally they muddled down into mush of addressing nothing of any
> particular interest but still maintaining their garbage is equivalent to
> thousands of bureaucratic records documenting a never denied event.
> 
>         Holohuggers are very foolish.

Once upon a time in the big city lived a silly person named Matt Giwer.
Matt Giwer was an exceptionally odd person as he tended to lie about
things that could be demonstrably proven as lies within minutes of
hearing them.  Matt decided to run around screaming wildly about how
foolish everyone else was, never quite realizing that he came across
as a simpering twit with no concept of civility or rational discourse.

However hard people went out of their way to try and educate Matt he
would only cover his ears and yell quite loudly "NYAH NYAH I CAN'T
HEAR YOU!"

Now people tried very hard to help Matt.  One thing they did to assist
him in his learning comprehension was to teach him the alphabet using
words that described him, to help him relate.

A is for asinine, B is for boorish, C is for contemptible, D is for
despicable, E is for emptyheaded, F is for frivolous, G is for gutless,
H is for hypocritical, I is for imbecilic, J is for juvenile, K is
for kookish, L is for lily-livered, M is for moronic, N is for noxious,
O is for outlandish, P is for pompous, Q is for quibbling, R is for
rodent-like, S is for sleazebag, T is for two-faced, U is for
unprincipled, V is for vile, W is for windbag, X is for xenophobic,
Y is for yellow-bellied and Z is for zipperhead.

However, Little Matt was determined to show that he could control the
entire world (like the Jews were supposed to) so he ignored his lessons
and tried to act mean and tough, like one of those clown balloons that
bounce back everytime you punch it.  He liked clown balloons.  They
had the same number of operating brain cells he did.  Anyway, while he
was practicing by running repeatedly into a wall and trying to bounce
back up, he made up stories about things.  When people asked him what
exactly they meant, he ran screaming for his mommy claiming that every
one was out to get him.  However she did not understand Matt because
what he said was "Me people stories not the fiction we is understanding."
When she asked him what he meant, Little Matt accused her of being
in cahoots with all the people out to get them.

What a sad, sad person is little Matt.


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From: Keith Morrison 
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Subject: Re: Genocide
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Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
>         There have been any objections to genocide on this newsgroup.
> 
>         It is amusing to note that so few have read their bibles to realize that
> the Israelites have the first written record of genocide in human
> history.
> 
>         Do not believe me.
> 
>         Read your fine bible.
> 
>         Then get back to me.

Would Exodus 1:16 count?  After all the order of Pharoah to kill all newborn
Jewish males might be seen by some as an attempt to destroy a people, especially
in an age when it was the men who defined a group.

Have *you* ever read a Bible, Giwer?

--
Keith Morrison
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Matt Giwer wrote:

> >Get a job, punk. No nazihugger here willing to give this
> >person a job? The punk had to retire at the age of 46,
> 
>         Chose to, youngster.
> 
> >apparently because no one wanted him anymore (not to mention
> >his other personal problems). That's one of the reasons for his
> >hostility.
> 
>         There was not much call for clever ways to kill Russians.  But then if
> you want the Cold War back again, I will certain cash in on it.  I would
> prefer poverty to its return.
> 
>         You are very strange to wish otherwise.

Chose to retire at 46, hmm?  Let's see, you claim to have graduated in '67,
and assuming a normal 4 year program you'd be 22...24 years later retired,
that would be 1991 or '92, about the same time as the USSR fell.

Jeez, I'm amazed.  Giwer has related a series of internally consistent
statements.

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Keith Morrison
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From: Keith Morrison 
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Matt Giwer wrote:

> >>         It is amusing to note that so few have read their bibles to realize that
> >> the Israelites have the first written record of genocide in human
> >> history.
> >>
> >>         Do not believe me.
> >>
> >>         Read your fine bible.
> >>
> >>         Then get back to me.
> 
> >Would Exodus 1:16 count?  After all the order of Pharoah to kill all newborn
> >Jewish males might be seen by some as an attempt to destroy a people, especially
> >in an age when it was the men who defined a group.
> 
> >Have *you* ever read a Bible, Giwer?
> 
>         Yes, I have read that garbage.
> 
>         Your "god" does exactly the same thing and is no better than the mortal
> Pharoah.

Excuse me, whose God?  I don't recall informing you of any of my beliefs or
opinios on matters of theology, so where, exactly, did this come from?


> 
>         This is a god you are talking about, remember?
> 
>         Created everything, our entire reality, remember?

Well, no it was a quantum fluctuation, solar nebula and evolution in that
order.  My belief.


>         This is the THE himself.
> 
>         All he has to do is tell Scotty to beam them all to the Promised Land
> and it is a done deal.  Right?
> 
>         Or do you have a problem with a god doing this?
> 
>         Excuse me.  You accept that this god wanted all the death and suffering
> instead of doing it the easy way.
> 
>         I find it amazing the otherwise apparently rational people who swallow
> crap like the bible stories.
> 
>         You are truly wierd.

And you are truly ignorant.  Please note that the following information is readily
available, thus I do not have to believe it to know it, anymore than I have to
believe in UFOs to know what is said about Area 51 or believe in Thetans to
know about Scientology.

It's time for the Matt Giwer Bible Quiz.  No points will be awarded for a correct
answer because it is easily found.  Points will be deducted for wrong answers.

1. The Israelites were forced by Yahweh to wander the wilderness for 40 years
   because:

   a) They were lost.
   b) They were holding their copy of the Michelin Road Guide of the Sinai upside
      down.
   c) They were obstructed by wandering herds of Tasmanian devils
   d) They had sinned against Yahweh by worshipping the golden calf
      at the foot of Mount Sinai. Moses was informed that they would wander
      the wilderness for forty years so that the generation who had sinned
      would not be allowed to enter the Promised Land.

Any answer except (d) will result in a deduction of 163 IQ points.

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Subject: Re: Genocide
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 20:07:06 -0300
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Alec Grynspan wrote:
> 
> Matt Giwer wrote:
> >
> >         I am talking about the revered written history of the Jewish people who
> > have the first recorded acts of genocide in human history.
> 
> Please provide evidence that this is part of Jewish history.
> 
> Please connect this to your claim that Jews aren't really descendents of
> the Hebrews but are Khazars.
> 
> Please try to use logic.

Oh God, that was good.  Laughed myself silly that time.
So how about it, Giwer?  Why *do* you contradict yourself?

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Keith Morrison
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Matt Giwer wrote:

> >> >Where in national socialist writings did you find the basis for your claim that the Nazis
> >> >were not racist?
> >>
> >>         As a German whose parents wanted to murder all Jews you have little room
> >> to ask such questions.
> >>
> >>         Your parents were murders as were your grandparents and you have no room
> >> to talk until you apologize for their murders before this group and to
> >> tell us all that you have accused them of being murderers to their
> >> faces.
> 
> >How about me asking.  I'm not German.
> 
>         I was not talking to you.
> 
>         Bugger off.

"I choose to respond to anyone who attacks another whom I agree with
 in any manner I choose."

That is a paraphrase of something I've heard recently.  I wonder who
it was who originally expressed those sentiments, hmmm?

--
Keith Morrison
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Subject: Re: Khazars
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william c anderson wrote:
> 
> Gord McFee (gmcfee@ibm.net) wrote:
> 
> : This is ridiculous.  I never realized Alec would wipe the floor with Giwer
> : so effortlessly.
> 
> I didn't think he could do it either, even after he told me by email
> how he was going to do it.  It looks easy, doesn't it, once you know
> the  trick?

What, you mean leading Giwer into a trap and getting his to say
something proveably stupid?  If that's the trick, no biggie and
not very difficult at all.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca

"Hey pa!  Another one of those dang trolls got caught!"


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Gord McFee wrote:
> 
> In article <31DF33AB.528E@unb.ca>, Keith Morrison  said:
> 
> >
> >Gord McFee wrote:
> >     ^^^^^
> >
> >> It's deliberate.  See, even though so many of the Nizkor gang are not
> >> Jewish, the deniers like to claim they all are.  So, in order to feed
> their
> >> paranoia, and keep them off the streets, ZOG has ordained that we must
> >> "judify" our names.  What is really the difference between a Jewish
> person
> >> and one of their lackeys?  None, of course, so we might as well have the
> >> name, as well as the game.  You will understand when the indoctrination
> >> sessions are over.  You WILL understand!
> >>
> >> --
> >> Gord McFee
> >       ^^^^^
> 
> >Um, what was that about "judifing"?
> 
> Listen, Morriglu _in basement of UNB_, obviously taking a _puff_ of _Hilltop
> Hops_, I used the anglicized version to throw G*wer the Li*r off the track.
> Don't blow my c*ver.

Srry, wsn't pyng ttntn t wht ws wrtng.

--
Kth Mrrsn
t08@nb

F y cn rd ths y hv ftr s cmptr prgrmmr.


From t08o@unb.ca Sat Jul 13 11:00:47 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Genocide
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 20:51:11 -0300
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Matt Giwer wrote:

>         BTW:  You should get around to reading it some day.  Then you would know
> what is in which book.

Why did Yahweh force the Israelites to wander in the wilderness for forty
years?

This question will be appended to pending questions involving tape recorders,
the United Nations, the Cambodian embassy, forams, skulls and the hominid
family.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Sat Jul 13 11:00:48 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Genocide
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 20:56:12 -0300
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Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 11 Jul 1996 18:47:19 GMT, dkeren@world.std.com (Daniel Keren)
> wrote:
> 
> >mgiwer@ix.netcom.com (Matt Giwer) writes:
> 
> ># It is amusing to note that so few have read their bibles to
> ># realize that the Israelites have the first written record of
> ># genocide in human history.
> 
> >So, now you're saying that documents do count as evidence?
> 
>         I said they were the first written records as you can plainly read.  It
> is still up in the air as to what if anything in those writing actually
> occurred.

The destruction of Carthage took place in 163 BC.  The Romans destroyed
the city and killed the inhabitants.

Sounds like genocide to me.

Now this date is reasonably solid.  Would Giwer please give us the
date of this supposed genocide from the Bible?

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Sat Jul 13 13:27:02 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: More unsolicited info of a lurker's opinion
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 21:36:58 -0300
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Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
>         It amounts to total disgust with the holohuggers and their tactics.
> 
>         You folks who think you are defending something are damning it.
> 
>         But you will never learn.
> 
>         Anyone provoking you folks in the least manner condemns your position
> more than the provocation.
> 
>         But you will continue to jerk your knees on request list trained animals
> which is the closest thing to a compliment you folks will ever get.

Matt Giwer is an ignorant boob.

Matt Giwer couldn't read a phone book, much less something important.

Matt Giwer is a moron.

How the hell can you stand talking to that jerk?

These email messages are available to anyone who asks, but I can't post
the names or addresses or the original text or the headers or...

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Sat Jul 13 13:27:03 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Genocide
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 21:40:32 -0300
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Keith Morrison wrote:

> The destruction of Carthage took place in 163 BC.  The Romans destroyed
> the city and killed the inhabitants.

*gack*  146 BC.  Where have I seen that 163 before?  Hmmm....

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Sat Jul 13 13:27:04 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: AN ADMISSION OF PERFIDIOUS GUILT
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 14:46:33 -0300
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Hilary Ostrov wrote:

> Whaddya mean "kick ET's butt"?  Talk about "eastern myopia" -  ET was
> a cutie - and made far more sense than a certain troll who habituates
> this newsgroup.  At least he knew how to call home.

You'd have loved a sermon a lay minister gave at my church when I was
13 or so.  Explained how ET really had satanic/occult leanings and
ideas etc etc.

I think my taste for religion began to take a nosedive right about
then.

And besides, the troll can't call home.  The amoebas don't have
an 800 or 888 number, and since he is unemployed and probably
low on cash he can't really call long distance.

 
> >Remember, support ZOG and see the movie.  Members get a ten percent
> >discount at the door.
> 
> Think so, eh?!  Well, have I got news for you ... we superior ZOGGIES
> of the West (and the best) get a fifteen percent discount.  So there.

Ten percent for normal members.  Owners of the ZOG Race Traitors and
Holohuggers Card get in free.  Nyah nyah nyah.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: zero risk websites
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 15:02:01 -0300
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Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
>         Within a couple a three months I expect to announce the availability of
> bullet proof web server that does not give a damn about content and in
> fact encourages inflamatory but US legal (meaning no kiddie porn but
> that is about it) content.
> 
>         Stay tuned for the Thomas Paine net, coming to an IPS near you.

So, f'r instance, someone was to set up a web page called "The Tale of
Matt Giwer, Troll" and link it to various locations that have catalouged
your lies, mistatements and evasions, also offering links to Nizkor and
has commentary from people whom you have libelled, insulted and lied to,
the Thomas Paine (?) web server would carry it, yes?

Ready to put your money where your mouth is?

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: CODOH shut down
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 14:54:10 -0300
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Matt Giwer wrote:

>         But there is no way to deal with mutually incompatible laws across the
> border.  The Canadians laws here are those.

Since laws of other nations have no effects outside their borders, I trust you
will immediately call your representatives and denounce the Helms-Burton Bill
which tries to extend US law to other countries, in effect allowing the US
government to decide what citizens of other nations can and cannot do?

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: BRADLEY SMITH'S WEBSITE SHUT DOWN
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 18:43:32 -0300
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Marty Kelley wrote:

> >       You've heard of the term "writing between the lines" haven't you?
> > Its a term that is recognized as meaning people will feign one thing
> > but then write in innuendos. "Writing between the lines", a well known
> > term.
> 
> OK--so where in Dr. Keren's words are the subtle innuendos that iondicate
> he means the exact opposite of what he said?

Whoa, before any in-depth analysis of Dr. Keren, Moran owes me
one as he claimed the same thing six months ago.

So, Moran, where is it?  Please show a post, any post, where I
have agreed or stated that people should be jailed for their 
revisionist beliefs.

Or should I plan on retiring before this happens?

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Sun Jul 14 07:45:03 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
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Subject: Re: Genocide
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Matt Giwer wrote:
 
>         Even their god has an interest in destroying blood lines in the infamous
> "first born" story against the Egyptians.  And even then they gloss over
> the "I will harden Pharho's heart" as creating a deliberate pretext for
> the mass torment and slaughter.  If it were not for their god there
> would have been no reason for the entire story.

So, are you saying that the killing of the Egyptian firstborn was equivalent,
in practice, to genocide?  I'm just curious.  Yes or no?

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@Unb.ca

"Be vewy vewy quiet.  I'm hunting twolls."


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Subject: Re: Nyiszli's Memoirs of Auschwitz
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Michael P. Stein wrote:
> 
>     One word with regard to the "suffocating cough:" remember that until
> late in the war, Zyklon contained not only cyanide but a lachrymogen as a
> warning indicator to let people know in the event of a leak - cyanide is
> not as clearly noticeable.  The cough may have been caused by residual
> lachrymogen, which to be effective would have to be detectable before the
> cyanide developed lethal levels, and persist as long as the cyanide was in
> the area.

If the lachrymogen behaved anything like CN or CS then it may have persisted
long *after* any cyanide had been neutralized.  The coveralls I wore during
NBC training (and the t-shirt I wore underneath) that were exposed to gas
maintained the distinct odor for months afterwards, even after having been
chemically treated and washed many many times.

This brings up a potentially interesting point.  Tear gas will absorb into
clothing easily and still be effective, at least minimally.  Exposure to
damp skin (not just the eyes and nose/mouth) can be extremely painful.  After
the gassing session, I was the first one to hit the showers and the others
laughed when I practically screamed as I jumped in...at least until it
was their turn.  Nasty stuff.

Perhaps removal of lachrymogen in Zyklon B was due not solely to its use
as a killing agent but to make it easier to clear out the bodies after.
Much as the guards supplied the Sonderkommando with gas masks, perhaps
they eliminated the lachrymogen because it became a nuisance having the
body carriers in pain and not moving bodies efficiently enough.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: total lack of perspective exemplified
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 19:57:21 -0300
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Matt Giwer wrote:

>         At a time when 5% of college students would be hard pressed to name the
> major countries involved in WW II, this nerfbrain thinks that a bit of
> historical trivia like his holocaust is of some particular significance.

I wouldn't be too quick to complain about other being ignorant about the
nations involved in WW2 if I were you, Giwer.

Want to tell us again when the term United Nations first came into use?

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: AN ADMISSION OF PERFIDIOUS GUILT
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 19:36:37 -0300
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Yale F. Edeiken wrote:

>         Good model makers.  The CIA is very good at that.  So is Hollywood.  I
> went the movies last night and saw the White House explode (lousy flick, BTW,
> do your best to miss it).  According to Giwer that seems to be proof positive that
> aliens just blew up the White House.

Phillistine.  As much as I respect Mr. Edeiken, I must forcefully oppose
his assertion that the movie is "lousy".   Scientifically inaccurate, yes,
highly implausible coincidences, yes, but witty and a great ride.

Besides, as someone in another forum mentioned, when was the last time
you saw the military be the good guys in an SF film?  And personally I
would love to have a national leader who was a good blowtorch jockey
and willing to personally kick ET's butt.

Oh yeah, relevance...well, it had obviously Jewish characters who had
undue influence over the government...and the White House blew up, clearly
symbolic of the ZOG conspiracy...and the world owes its existance to
two men, one African-American and one Jewish, so it was obviously a 
propoganda piece out to make all good Aryans look like idiots...

Remember, support ZOG and see the movie.  Members get a ten percent
discount at the door.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


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Jamie McCarthy wrote:
> 
> yawen@enter.net (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote:
> 
> > Standard rate around here is
> > $1.25/page.  The additional charge for an ASCII transcript on floppy
> > is $1.00 (*not* per page, for the whoile thing).
> 
> Really?  I just might call up some folks in Toronto and see how much
> the complete trial transcript would cost me.  It'd certainly be nice
> to have.  Relying on the Zuendel-authorized summaries is awkward,
> always having to read between the lines...

Ernst Zuendel took Tom Moran's writing between the lines course?

--
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Holocaust revisionism (was :Re: German hegemony )
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 18:46:37 -0300
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Matt Giwer wrote:

> >>>What is the molecular weight of HCN? What is the effective molecular
> >>>weight of air?
> >>
> >>That's not relevant except to prove the the person in question can't
> >>add.
> 
> >Hint: Hydrogen has a lower molecular weight. It rises.
> 
>         Hint:  You are out of your depth but your fellow holohuggers will not
> tell you that.

Hint:  a person who cannot state what "oxidation state" means is in no
position to lecture others about being out of their league.

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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Genocide
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 20:53:19 -0300
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Yale F. Edeiken wrote:
> 
> >   Keith Morrison  writes:
> 
> >  Have *you* ever read a Bible, Giwer?
> 
>         So why should that book be different from any other book?

I know, but I had to ask.

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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Phenol or Gas
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 21:03:18 -0300
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Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 09 Jul 1996 20:26:45 -0300, Keith Morrison  wrote:
> 
> >Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
> >>         OF course the above is what you will repeat forever and ever but in fact
> >> I only pointed out the lack of a mention of such a needle.
> 
> >Hey, when I was in the military I recieved tetanus shots.
> 
> >Ah, but in the preceeding sentence, I neglected to mention the needle!  Ergo
> >the sentence is false.
> 
>         Perhaps it looked that long to you at that age ...

No, the tetanus needle looked quite normal sized for a needle.  I was
18 at the time.  I have't grown that much since then.

 
>         But then you read the rest of the descriptions that go with these
> immensely long needles such as "thought they were getting a vaccination"
> and you see how ridiculous these stories are.

Um, except that it is *you* who brought up the needle length.  You are
proceeding to demolish your own strawman.  Tell you what, *you* tell
us how long a needle must be to inject something in or near the heart,
based on a reliable source like _Gray's Anatomy_, you know, that book
you haven't read yet, and get back to us.  After, and only after you 
have demonstrated that a needle six inches long is required, then we
can move on.


 
> >Or else it might be that for most of the literate human species mention
> >of injections or shots tends to indicate the presence of a needle.
> 
> >Then again, I can see Giwer's point.  Imagine someone saying something
> >silly like "He was killed with a .44 Magnum."  Clearly this cannot have
> >occurred unless the man was bludgeoned to death with the pistol since
> >he would have been killed with the bullet, not the gun.  No mention
> >of the bullet he was shot with, therefore no shooting.
> 
> >Gee, and this time yesterday I though Matt had finally caught a clue...
> 
>         And of course add to the above that hydrogen was one of the
> "experimental" killing agents and it is even more absurd.

Source of this statement?  Not that injecting hydrogen could not
cause death.  I believe you have heard of an embolism?

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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.politics.conspiracy,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.revisionism,alt.politics.radical-left,alt.politics.perot
Subject: Re: Some recent articles appearing in The Spotlight
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 14:58:31 -0300
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Danny Mittleman wrote:

> >I don't suppose that harrasment has anything to do with the
> >fact that one of the reasons Demjanjuk was not convicted of being
> >Ivan was that there was evidence he was off doing nasty things at
> >*another* camp, does it?
> 
>     To be fair to Demjanjuk, I don't think we know he was doing "nasty
>     things" at another camp, all we know is that he was a guard at another
>     camp.  His attitudes and behaviors have not been determined.

I stand corrected and chastened.

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Keith Morrison
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: zero risk websites
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 15:02:09 -0300
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Danny Mittleman wrote:

> >So, f'r instance, someone was to set up a web page called "The Tale of
> >Matt Giwer, Troll" and link it to various locations that have catalouged
> >your lies, mistatements and evasions, also offering links to Nizkor and
> >has commentary from people whom you have libelled, insulted and lied to,
> >the Thomas Paine (?) web server would carry it, yes?
> >
> >Ready to put your money where your mouth is?
> 
>     Funny how you and I had the exact same idea immediately!  Before today
>     I couldn't imagine a scenario where I would be writing a cheque to
>     Giwer.  Now I can wait.  I want to have the first page on Thomas
>     Paine-in-the-ass ISP!  I am going to mirror Rack Jite and provide links
>     directly into the Giwer section of Nizkor.  Yesseree this will be fun!
> 
>     OK, so obviously I will do a Matt Giwer / Eleanor Roosevelt separated
>     at birth page, but does anybody have any other ideas about what I could
>     do?

How about a link to the Giwer page under the heading "Really Poorly Designed
Web Pages and the Idiots Who Make Them?"

It's enough to make me want to start learning HTML better than I do.

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Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 13 Jul 1996 19:21:17 -0700, Rich Graves  wrote:
> 
> >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> 
> >Calling all H*bers and G*wers! One Holohugger correcting another!
> 
>         Is an asterix [*] as good as a hyphen and make us gods to the j*wish
> cattle?

Well, I don't know about a hyphen, but an Asterix is at least as good
as three or four Roman legions when Obelix is there and he's taken
the Getafix magic potion.

Of course, he does have a problem with that renegade Gaul, Giwerisatrollix.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Mon Jul 15 07:12:35 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: class action lawsuit
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 14:50:11 -0300
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Danny Mittleman wrote:

>     I spoke with a lawyer today who told me that any class action suit
>     Giwer might bring would surely be immediately thrown out of court
>     (actually, I think the lawyer said "laughed out of court.")

Could the court give a ruling on whether there are grounds for a countersuit
for idiotic attempt at litigation before they laughed Giwer's case out of
court?  I'm sure a retired, well-off man like Giwer could easily afford a
...um..."donation" to Nizkor.

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Keith Morrison
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: It was amazing
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Matt Giwer wrote:

> >    Apparently more than you do, as you have moved directly to insults. All
> >    they did was drop the dead weight around '91 or so, and the military
> >    R&D budgets have gone back up.  The good people moved from the
> >    government over to the beltway bandits (you know, BBN, SAIC, Logicon,
> >    PRC, Mitre, etc.) and the losers were put out to pasture.  But you know
> >    that, troll.
> 
>         Just to keep this all growing as you are the asshole who does not know
> how to delete ...
> 
>         You know not word one about TOTAL budgets or inflation.

And you know nothing about history, chemistry, medicine, anatomy, constitutional
law, international law, geography, anthropology, biology, geology, engineering,
photo analysis and basic reading.

Did I miss any?

 
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Keith Morrison
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Nizkor flunkies learn some basics
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 15:19:06 -0300
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Michael P. Stein wrote:
> 
> In article <4s2d6u$au3@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com>,
> Matt  Giwer  wrote:
> >       When you log on to Nizkor next time, you will note they have mastered
> >the  statement and have stolen an animated GIF from
> >some place.
> >
> >       It is all quite impressive what they have mastered in a year.
> 
>     Fifty-one years and Matt Giwer has not mastered the English language.
> Somehow he once read "after a few minutes there was silence" as "the
> screaming went on for tens of minutes."

Well, there is a precedent.  He did read "Americanism" as "anti-fascism".

Say, that reminds me.  Oh, Giwer, care to explain why you changed a 
Huey Long quote to replace the word "Americanism" with "anti-fascism"?

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Keith Morrison
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From: Keith Morrison 
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Subject: Re: A question about the tone of language in this group... (was Re: Baron exp...
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Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
> On 13 Jul 1996 22:15 MST, dmittleman@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu (Danny
> Mittleman) wrote:

>         Dear jerkoff Jew,
> 
>         Shall I do it again?
> 
>         You are not welcome.
> 
>         This is not your newsgroup.
> 
>         Go away.

1. Danny Mittleman was here long before you crawled in from whatever fetid
   swamp you emerged from.

2. "Dear jerkoff Jew" is a fine way to start a response considering that
   you are threatening to sue someone for calling you an antisemite.

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Daniel Keren wrote:
> 
> mgiwer@ix.netcom.com (Matt  Giwer) writes:
> 
> [Re physical evidence of early Israelite culture]
> 
> # The physical evidence is so well known it has been
> # incorporated into a TV series.
> 
> Yep folks, you heard it here.
> 
> "A TV series is proof", so says the Giwer.
> 
> Where is the evidence?

Pshaw, `tis nothing.  he's already claimed that conditions
in the South during the US Civil War weren't that bad, as
anyone who has seen "Gone With the Wind" can testisy.

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Ken McVay OBC wrote:

> P.S. Please initiate discussions with appropriate marketing agencies
> for the promotion and sale of the videotape. We'll call it "Das Giwer
> Dokument."
> 
> I will provide archival space for the entire transcript, and
> put it on the web. Should be a real multimedia hit, don't you
> think?

Can you arrange for it to take place in a camera-equipped courtroom
(or are such things allowed in the US in civil cases?).  I know
that a hypertext document with embedded images of Giwer at key moments
in the questioning would probably be a hit.  Perhaps the videotape
could be licensed to Comedy Central?

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Matt Giwer wrote:

> >>         You know not word one about TOTAL budgets or inflation.
> 
> >And you know nothing about history, chemistry, medicine, anatomy, constitutional
> >law, international law, geography, anthropology, biology, geology, engineering,
> >photo analysis and basic reading.
> 
> >Did I miss any?
> 
>         Only about how your wife wants it.

Wow, that would be a real low blow, absolutely breathtaking in its
effective shooting down of my assertion and rendering me apoplectic
with rage at the thought of Giwer dragging my wife into this.

Pity I'm not married.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Mon Jul 15 22:32:37 PDT 1996
Article: 50556 of alt.revisionism
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: McVay being sued
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 19:51:53 -0300
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Jamie McCarthy wrote:
> 
> mgiwer@ix.netcom.com (Matt Giwer) wrote:
> 
> > There is no way this can comfort the RICO liable contributors to McVay's
> > actionable site.  It is clearly racketeering under US law.
> 
> So (yawn) call up the damn prosecutor and start the criminal case.
> 
> Or sue us.  Or whatever you're planning on doing.
> 
> Quit telling us how you're going to censor us:  just go ahead and do it.

Oh, don't worry about it.  If he tries to close Nizkor, just mirror
everything on the Thomas Paine (?) web site.  After all, no censorship
based on content was the promise.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Mon Jul 15 22:32:41 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: in the manner of suiing
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 19:54:24 -0300
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Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>         Also of interest is that there are six or seven contributors listed on
> the Nizkor site.  Two of them are "co-webmasters" but certainly it is
> possible they are contributing defamatory material making the RICO
> conspiracy even wider and more people to be named.
> 
>         They should all be named.
> 
>         The joint and several liability under RICO for treble damages should be
> of interest to most any "contributor."  Of course if they can prove they
> did not contribute to the defamation ...
> 
>         But then, they were only following orders.
> 
>         But then, the only reason I am leaving Nizkor on line is to accumulate
> evidence.

And Giwer enters the same elite group as Scientology and Canter and Siegel.

Jeez, you keep good company, Matt.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Mon Jul 15 22:32:42 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: BRADLEY SMITH'S WEBSITE SHUT DOWN
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 20:22:00 -0300
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Ken McVay OBC wrote:

> ># What is even more interesting is claiming the Engineering
> ># Department and not showing the slightest comprehension of
> ># engineering.
> 
> >As noted, I spent 3 years at the Division of Engineering,
> >Brown University, as a research associate.
> 
> >Currently, I teach at a different university, in the
> >department of computer science.
> 
> >Currently, I am also a consultant to Hewlett-Packard.
> 
> >Are you, and/or Tom Moran, suggesting that I'm lying
> >about my professional record? Yes or no?
> 
> Dr. Keren, would you be interested in having a few days to
> chat with Mr. Giwer, under oath?  He's showing an indication
> of willingness to pick up the tab, so give it some thought.
> (Another $15,000 or so means nothing to a man like Giwer.)

Can I make a deposition?  Something along the lines of "Tiny
Beasts, Biblical Feasts, Tape Recorders and Other Questions
Giwer Can't Answer".

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Tue Jul 16 02:18:43 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: law suit
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:44:17 -0300
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Ken McVay OBC wrote:
> 
> In article <4scb71$2u6@atlas.uniserve.com>,
> hostrov@uniserve.com (Hilary Ostrov) wrote:
> 
> >Hey, I'm just the court reporter!  If you find the prose problematic,
> >you'd better take it up with the troll. Sorry, it's his tantrum, not
> >mine;>)
> 
> Ms. Ostrov, could I interest you in several weeks' holiday in
> Florida, courtesy Mr. Giwer? His writing suggests that he
> would like nothing better than to fund a Nizkor convention in
> the region, and, in all fairness, you really should attend.
> Dr. Keren will be there, courtesy Mr. Giwer, as will Mr.
> Stein, Mr. McCarthy, Mr. Katz, Mr. McFee, Mr. Eidecken, Mr.
> Morrison, Mr. Mittleman and a host of others.
> 
> I realize you are busy, but I must insist you indicate your
> interest now, as Mr. Giwer's pockets may be rather light
> rather quickly into this action.
> 
> Please do contact:
> 
> Registrar, ZOGCDNWEST
> Hotel We'll Take Giwer's Money'ere
> Miami, Florida
> Your attorney will be provided by Mr. Giwer.

Can we get a date so I can inform my employer?  I'd like a few days
in Florida (must remember to pack the Kevlar/ceramic vest) and
I'm sure that I could take an unpaid holiday, since I hope to
be coming back with more than I went with.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Tue Jul 16 08:46:50 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
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Subject: Re: Why CODOH is not likely to sue ProtoSource
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DvdThomas wrote:
> 
> It has to do with the people you have to deal with in the legal system.
> An example follows.

[lawyer joke snipped]

In other words, you don't have a case?

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Tue Jul 16 13:27:01 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
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Harvester wrote:
> 
> Carleton Putnam wrote:
> 
> " The American Negro on the average produced per capita eight times as many illegitimate
> children, six times as many feeble-minded adults, nine times as many robberies,
> seven times as many rapes and tem times as many murders as the White man. Conversely,
> the Negro race produced one-sixth as many individuals with an IQ over 130, that is,
> in the gifted person category. These were the undisputed facts concerning the per-
> formance and behaviour of the Negro in the United States."
> 
> Race and Reality 1967
> Carleton Putnam

Ah yes, the honorable Mr Putnam.  Now why don't you share with us
his beliefs that desegregation was a communist plot to take over
the United States?  Worked real good, didn't it?

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Tue Jul 16 19:19:54 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: law suit, d'ya think it'll go like this?
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 20:21:15 -0300
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Matt walks warily into the court
With his list of people to sue
Ain't nothin' on his brain but petty greed
And some charges under RICO too
Is he ready, is he ready for this?
Everyone's on the edge of their seats
During the cross the questions fly
And Giwer's knees go weak

Another lie bites the dust
Another lie bites the dust
And another one gone and another one gone
Another lie bites the dust
Hey, the question's aren't done!
Another lie bites the dust

How do you think he'll handle the fact
That his lies are easy to see?
His evasions all stored on disk
And retrieved quite easily
The judges laugh, the jury roars
His cheeks turn a vivid red
The cause of the laugh? he claimed
That Raoul Wallenberg ain't dead

Another lie bites the dust
Another lie bites the dust
Another lie bites the dust
Another lie bites the dust
There are plenty of ways to humiliate
An arrogant pompous jerk
You can tease him
You can reason
You can keep his lies and with Giwer
Everything will work
He wasn't ready, no never thought of this
His lies are thrown back at his feet
He wants to sneak right out of there
When he knows that he's been beat

It's time for a countersuit
It's time for a countersuit
And his money's all gone and his money's all gone
It's time for a countersuit
Hey, the judge ain't through!
It's time for a countersuit



From t08o@unb.ca Tue Jul 16 19:19:55 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: law suit, d'ya think it'll go like this?
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Matt walks warily into the court
With his list of people to sue
Ain't nothin' on his brain but petty greed
And some charges under RICO too
Is he ready, is he ready for this?
Everyone's on the edge of their seats
During the cross the questions fly
And Giwer's knees go weak

Another lie bites the dust
Another lie bites the dust
And another one gone and another one gone
Another lie bites the dust
Hey, the question's aren't done!
Another lie bites the dust

How do you think he'll handle the fact
That his lies are easy to see?
His evasions all stored on disk
And retrieved quite easily
The judges laugh, the jury roars
His cheeks turn a vivid red
The cause of the laugh? he claimed
That Raoul Wallenberg ain't dead

Another lie bites the dust
Another lie bites the dust
Another lie bites the dust
Another lie bites the dust
There are plenty of ways to humiliate
An arrogant pompous jerk
You can tease him
You can reason
You can keep his lies and with Giwer
Everything will work
He wasn't ready, no never thought of this
His lies are thrown back at his feet
He wants to sneak right out of there
When he knows that he's been beat

It's time for a countersuit
It's time for a countersuit
And his money's all gone and his money's all gone
It's time for a countersuit
Hey, the judge ain't through!
It's time for a countersuit

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Matt walks warily into the court
With his list of people to sue
Ain't nothin' on his brain but petty greed
And some charges under RICO too
Is he ready, is he ready for this?
Everyone's on the edge of their seats
During the cross the questions fly
And Giwer's knees go weak

Another lie bites the dust
Another lie bites the dust
And another one gone and another one gone
Another lie bites the dust
Hey, the question's aren't done!
Another lie bites the dust

How do you think he'll handle the fact
That his lies are easy to see?
His evasions all stored on disk
And retrieved quite easily
The judges laugh, the jury roars
His cheeks turn a vivid red
The cause of the laugh? he claimed
That Raoul Wallenberg ain't dead

Another lie bites the dust
Another lie bites the dust
Another lie bites the dust
Another lie bites the dust
There are plenty of ways to humiliate
An arrogant pompous jerk
You can tease him
You can reason
You can keep his lies and with Giwer
Everything will work
He wasn't ready, no never thought of this
His lies are thrown back at his feet
He wants to sneak right out of there
When he knows that he's been beat

It's time for a countersuit
It's time for a countersuit
And his money's all gone and his money's all gone
It's time for a countersuit
Hey, the judge ain't through!
It's time for a countersuit

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From t08o@unb.ca Wed Jul 17 07:36:34 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
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Subject: Re: A question about the tone of language in this group... (was Re: Baron exp...
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Matt Giwer wrote:

> >1. Danny Mittleman was here long before you crawled in from whatever fetid
> >   swamp you emerged from.
> 
>         Actually I was here before he showed up but there was a hiatus in my
> participation.  He is one of the actionable newcomers.

For the record, will someone please inform Mr Giwer when alt.revisionism
was created?  I started reading in early '93 and I don't believe it was
created very long before that.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@Unb.ca


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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: AN ADMISSION OF PERFIDIOUS GUILT
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Hilary Ostrov wrote:

> >> >Remember, support ZOG and see the movie.  Members get a ten percent
> >> >discount at the door.
> >>
> >> Think so, eh?!  Well, have I got news for you ... we superior ZOGGIES
> >> of the West (and the best) get a fifteen percent discount.  So there.
> 
> >Ten percent for normal members.  Owners of the ZOG Race Traitors and
> >Holohuggers Card get in free.  Nyah nyah nyah.
> 
> Hah!  Well, I didn't really want to have to tell you this, but I lied.
> Superior ZOGGIES of the West (and the best) actually _get paid_ to go
> see the movie.  The fifteen percent discount is on the popcorn.  So
> there.

We get free popcorn *and* a percentage of the box office.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Wed Jul 17 10:59:50 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
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Ken McVay OBC wrote:

> I'm certain that Mr. Stein, Mr. McCarthy, Mr. Eidecken and Mr. Keren
> would be delighted to buy you a drink - with Mr. Giwer's money, of
> course. So would I.

And I'd be happy to buy a round for the house, on Giwer's tab of course.
Since it would be after my three month probationary period when I become
eligible for full company benefits, including my two weeks vacation, my
employer has indicated that it would be no problem to take a quick
jaunt down to Florida.  Maybe I'll take the imaginary wife Giwer thinks
I have.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


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From: Keith Morrison 
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Subject: Re: Bookburnings!
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tom moran wrote:
> 
> ruthsommer@aol.com (RuthSommer) wrote:
> 
>         You want to see book burnings? Wait until the Holocaust story
> collapses. I believe it may have already begun.

I get it, this is one of those "The end of the world will come on
March 16th" things, right?  Only in Moran's case he announces it
on March 17th.

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Keith Morrison
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From t08o@unb.ca Thu Jul 18 16:42:32 PDT 1996
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Subject: Re: in the manner of suiing
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 19:22:32 -0300
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> >>      The joint and several liability under RICO for treble damages should be
> >>of interest to most any "contributor."
> 
> RICO?  Is that Lucy's husband?

No, it's that cheesy video that came out a few years back.  You know,
"RICO Suarte".  Or maybe he's talking about that river, the Rico Grande.
Oh wait, I know!  He's going on a trip to Rico de Janeiro!

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Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Thu Jul 18 19:37:24 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: The more things change ...
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 22:03:21 -0300
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Mike Curtis wrote:
> 
> ehrlich606@aol.com (Ehrlich606) wrote:
> 
> >
> >As to the empirical basis of Lysenko's theory,  biologists today
> >have no doubt that his experiments were totally worthless [....]  This, of
> >course, did not affect the debate in the slightest.  Lysenko emerged [...]
> >as the unquestioned leader of Soviet biological sciences: the few
> >disciples of idealistic, mystic, scholastic, metaphysical, bourgeois,
> >formal genetics were irrevocably crushed.  All institutions, journals, and
> >publishing enterprises concerned with biology were put under the authority
> >of Lysenko and his helpers, and for many years there was no question of
> >any defender of the chromosome theory of heredity (_ex hypothesi_ a
> >Fascist, racist, metaphysician, etc.) being allowed to speak in public or
> >appear in print. 
> >
> >The more things change, the more they stay the same ....
> >
> >source: Leszek Kolakowski, *Main Currents of Marxism*, vol. 3, NY:1981, p.
> >138
> 
> What has this to do with the Holocaust?

Absolutely nothing.  That's the beauty of it.  Since it has nothing
to do with the Holocaust, they can say it proves the Holocaust didn't happen,
which induces a great deal of head-scratching and puzzled expressions,
which revisionist/deniers then use to prove you don't understand.

It's the proof by non-sequitor.

--
Keith Morrison
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From: Keith Morrison 
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Subject: Re: Lysenko: Hero of Soviet Science
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 20:27:59 -0300
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Ehrlich606 wrote:
> 
> A relevant post for those who believe in Soviet *Integrity* --
> 
> The demand that natural science should confine itself to subjects
> of immediate technical use was highly damaging to important branches of
> research, and this very soon made itself felt in technology as well.  Even
> more pernicious, however, were attempts to exercise ideological control
> over the actual results of scientific investigation, in the name of
> Marxist *correctness.*
> 
> Comment:  does any of this sound familiar?
> 
> [The 1930's] saw the rise of Trofim D. Lysenko, whose
> mission was to revolutionize Soviet biological science in accordance with
> Marxist Leninism and to explode the *bourgeois* theories of Mendel and TH
> Morgan.  Lysenko, an agronomist, had explored various techniques of plant
> breeding and decided, early in his career, to develop them into a
> universal theory of Marxist genetics.  After 1935, together with his
> assistant I. I. Prezent, he attacked the modern genetic theory and claimed
> that hereditary influences could be almost completely eliminated by
> appropriate changes in the environment: genes were a bourgeois invention,
> as was the distinction between genotype and phenotype.  It was not hard to
> convince the party leaders and Stalin himself that [such] a theory [....]
> was in accordance with Marxist Leninism (*everything changes*) and was
> admirably suited to the ideology which maintained that human beings,
> especially *Soviet man*, could transform nature in any way they had a mind
> to.

Outstanding example of using something that doesn't have anything to
do with the Holocaust to prove it didn't happen.

Or maybe you are suggesting Lysenko was in charge of the program that 
replaced all SS and Nazi officials held and tried (and in some cases
still living) in the West with clones who would admit that there was
a mass slaughter of about 12 million?

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Keith Morrison
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: FREE SPEECH - A Matter of Philosophy, Not Law.
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 20:09:31 -0300
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Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
> On 17 Jul 1996 21:00:35 GMT, yawen@enter.net (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote:
> 
> >>   mgiwer@ix.netcom.com (Matt  Giwer) writes:
> 
> >
> >>      But then, enlighten me.  Just what immigration was their to the US prior
> >>  to the Revolution what was not from Britain?
> 
> >       Let's see.  French (Canada, Lousiana, Delaware), Spanish (Florida,
> >Lousiana, and Texas), German and other middle European (Pennsylvania), Dutch
> >(New York), African Blacks (many states).  There was also quite a bit of immigration
> >from Wales, Scotland, and Ireland which, while technically from the British Isles were
> >dissenters trying to get away from the English oppression.  Many of the highland
> >survivors of the '45 ended up in the Carolinas for example where for some reason they
> >became ardent loyalists (including Flora MacDonald who hid Bommie Prince Charlie
> >and later raised a regiment of highlanders to fight for the crown).
> 
>         Now name some prior to the revolution.

Well, Champlain founded New France in 1604-1605 and the French expanded
throughout eastern North America.  Don't tell me you never wondered how
Detroit got its name, or Lake Champlain (yes, I know that Detroit did not
become US territory until the War of 1812).  Louisiana is named for the
French king and its capital is, of course, Baton Rouge (Red Stick).

After the English conquest of Canada in 1755 (the French and Indian Wars
in America, Seven Years War in Europe) the English deported many of the
Acadians out of what is now New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, Price Edward Island
and the Gaspe.

Perhaps Giwer might take a moment to look up the poem by Longfellow called
"Evangeline".  Based on the true story of Emmeline Labiche who was forced to
settle in Maryland (note: *before* the Revolution) before she moved with
many of the other Acadians to Louisiana where they became, suprise of
surprises, Cajuns.

Florida is, of course, a Spanish word.  New York was first settled as
Nieuw Nederland in 1609, among its more famous people being Minuit, who
bought Manhatten Island, and Pieter Stuyvesant, governor.

Jeez, this is odd.  Foreign nationals know the US COnstitution better
than Giwer, now it is demonstrated that they no US history better.
Who'd a thunk it?

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Keith Morrison
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schwartz@infinet.com wrote:

> > >>And back in _your generation_ you had to walk five
> > >>miles to school and back -- and it was uphill both ways.
> >
> > >You guys don't know when you've got it good.  Back in _my_ generation we
> > >didn't even have legs.  We had to roll ourselves to school and back.  When
> > >it snowed, you'd get there in a ball ten feet thick!
> >
> > You think *you* had it tough?  In _my_ generation, we didn't even have
> > schools.  But we had to walk 30 miles a day to cut the wood to heat them
> > anyway.  Just in case we ever had one.
> >
> 
> Cut the wood? You had something to cut the wood? You were lucky.
> 
> We had to gnaw the trees with our teeth.

You had teeth? 

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Keith Morrison
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Subject: Re: The Program
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Gord McFee wrote:

> >> Listen, Morriglu _in basement of UNB_, obviously taking a _puff_ of
> _Hilltop
> >> Hops_, I used the anglicized version to throw G*wer the Li*r off the
> track.
> >> Don't blow my c*ver.
> 
> >Srry, wsn't pyng ttntn t wht ws wrtng.
> 
> Good code!  Giwer will never understand it.  You are promoted, Agent
> Morriglu.
> 
> >F y cn rd ths y hv ftr s cmptr prgrmmr.
> 
> Why would I want to be a computer programmer?  Oops!.......

Mnad!  Won ew evah ot hctiws ot eht etanretla edoc.  Yllufepoh
Rewig lliw ton eb elba ot etartenep ti (gnimmussa eh nac etartenep
gnihtyna).

--
Thiek Nosirrom
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Subject: Re: Hello fellow truthseekers!
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iznogod wrote:
> 
>         I hate to use this phrase but I've gotta 'come out of the closet'
> of lies and deceits. I'm a die hard revisionist. I like the term
> historical truthseeker better.
>         I couldn't believe my eyes when I foudn out there's an
> alt.revisionism newsgroup all this time!
>         But before I spill the beans I want to know whether most writers
> are revisionism-bashers or revisionists par excellence.

There is no such thing.

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Matt Nuenke wrote:

> >Ah yes, the honorable Mr Putnam.  Now why don't you share with us
> >his beliefs that desegregation was a communist plot to take over
> >the United States?  Worked real good, didn't it?
> 
> All the socialist can do anymore is attack the messenger rather than
> the message. The propaganda is wearing thin folks. The facts are out
> of the bag. Blacks are as dumb as door-knobs on average and the
> liberals are apoplectic about what to do. So the message is, anyone
> who so states this obvious fact has to be discredited. I wonder if
> Bill Clinton's secret database has all these people listed as
> subversives to the socialist cause?

Well, not being a socialist myself, I really don't give a damn.

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Keith Morrison
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Subject: Re: Lawsuit threats: what "outrage?"
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Ken McVay OBC wrote:

> I have _months_ that could be profitably devoted to shredding the fellow,
> and, as several attorneys have pointed out, have the right to question him
> about every single article he has posted here... including every spammed
> article that "he" posted as well - take a look at the archives, Joel.
> 
> ...under oath, in front of a federal jury... at about $400 per hour.

If I get named can I do the general science questions?  I've watched
all my taped episodes of "Law and Order" just to be ready.  In fact,
since Matt thinks that television programs are very good references
(especially fictional ones), by his criteria I could probably be
lead attorney.

> I never did like bullies.

I do.  They whine so well when faced down.

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Keith Morrison
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Subject: Re: FREE SPEECH - A Matter of Philosophy, Not Law.
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Matt Giwer wrote:

> >>         Now name some prior to the revolution.
> 
> >Well, Champlain founded New France in 1604-1605 and the French expanded
> >throughout eastern North America.  Don't tell me you never wondered how
> >Detroit got its name, or Lake Champlain (yes, I know that Detroit did not
> >become US territory until the War of 1812).  Louisiana is named for the
> >French king and its capital is, of course, Baton Rouge (Red Stick).
> 
>         And of course you believe 1812 is prior to the Revolution.  Were you
> paying attention in class?

Now try and pay attention, Matt.  I said that the French lived throughout
the Northeast before the Revolution, and gave Detroit as one example.  Now,
don't you think it would be logical to assume that if they were present
so far west they might also be present just to the south of Quebec in
New York, New Hampshire and Vermont?


> >After the English conquest of Canada in 1755 (the French and Indian Wars
> >in America, Seven Years War in Europe) the English deported many of the
> >Acadians out of what is now New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, Price Edward Island
> >and the Gaspe.
> 
>         The US still does not own those territories and the way they are going
> would not want to for the pomposity of them.

Please define what you mean by "pomposity".  You should avoid big words that
you cannot understand.  Oh yes, and I said "deported", as in took them out
and moved them south.  Please indicate where I ever insinuated that the
US had or has ownership of these areas.  Look real hard because I didn't.
Unlike you I have some concept of the history of my country.

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Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


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Subject: Re: Pellets, shower, porous pillars...
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Ceacaa wrote:

> While it is possible to add holes to the concrete roof
> it is unlikely that the Germans would cut, waterproof,
> and build one chimney and then go on through the same
> process with the next chimney.  The expected and common
> method of building would be to cut FOUR holes and then
> have a crew of masons build FOUR chimneys.
> Unless you want to claim the Germans ADDED another
> hole at a later date,  the Bauleitung photo shows three complete square
> boxes and nothing at all which indicates that a
> fourth chimney is being built.

Unless they had only one crew of masons and decided to
get one chimney in at a time instead of cutting four open
holes and leaving three of them sitting, letting rain in.

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Keith Morrison
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Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
>         You are given the choice between two forms of death.
> 
>         The first is to be worked around the clocked on a starvation diet and
> then to succomb to disease and die over a period of days to weeks.
> 
>         The second is being gassed in a few minutes.
> 
>         The choice is yours save that you are going to die, period.
> 
>         Keep in mind that the first makes anything short of cancer look pleasant
> and that the second is on the order of a heart attack or stroke the two
> most common causes of death.
> 
>         Which would you choose?  And remember, you have to choose.

"But your Honor, clearly I do not deserve the conviction of guilty
even though I shot everyone in that restaurant with an AK-47.  Why,
many of them died instantly.  I could have stabbed them to death with a
butterknife, which would be a very long and painful way to die.  Since
I killed them in a more humane way, surely that means I'm not really
a bad guy."

Jeez, you a closet sociopath or something?  This has got to be the 
silliest damn argument I've ever heard.  So, the Holocaust didn't
happen because the Germans happened to pick a more "humane" way
of killing people?

What a maroon.

--
Keith Morrison
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Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: FREE SPEECH - A Matter of Philosophy, Not Law.
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 13:59:08 -0300
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Matt Giwer wrote:

> >Now try and pay attention, Matt.  I said that the French lived throughout
> >the Northeast before the Revolution, and gave Detroit as one example.  Now,
> >don't you think it would be logical to assume that if they were present
> >so far west they might also be present just to the south of Quebec in
> >New York, New Hampshire and Vermont?
> 
>         The subject was "ethnic" contribution to the American revolution, not
> where they happened to live.  And whatever you migth "imagine" it is
> logical to assume, has no bearing upon ethnic contribution to the
> Revolution.
> 
>         By the Proclamation Line of 1763 the areas you refer to were declared
> Indian Country and formed the western limits of the colonies.  If you
> look it up you will find the areas you refer to were to the west of that
> line.

New York, New Hampshire and Vermont were considered Indian Country?  What
were the original 13 states, Giwer?


--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Sun Jul 21 09:07:36 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: It was amazing
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 19:11:42 -0300
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Gord McFee wrote:
> 
> In article <4sd6nr$o60@sjx-ixn2.ix.netcom.com>, mgiwer@ix.netcom.com (Matt
> Giwer) said:
> 
> >>And you know nothing about history, chemistry, medicine, anatomy,
> constitutional
> >>law, international law, geography, anthropology, biology, geology,
> engineering,
> >>photo analysis and basic reading.
> 
> >>Did I miss any?
> 
> >       Only about how your wife wants it.
> 
> The usual whiny Matty response when he is losing an argument.  Pathetic.

And since I'm not married, really pathetic too.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Genocide
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 20:11:50 -0300
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Yale F. Edeiken wrote:
> 
> >   mgiwer@ix.netcom.com (Matt  Giwer) writes:
> 
> >       That is correct.  If you do not think aercheologists have the evidence
> >  in the terms of their discipline you should straighten them out.  I am
> >  certain they will be eternally grateful.
> 
>         What archeologists, Matty poo?  The ones at the Museum of the
> University of Pennsylvania seem to think that you are all wet.

I take it I should add archeology and biblical scholarship as
two more areas in which Giwer demonstrates his vast ignorance?

Pity he hasn't stumbled into my area of expertise like Moran
did.

--
Keith Morrison
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Subject: Re: AN ADMISSION OF PERFIDIOUS GUILT
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 19:41:17 -0300
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Hilary Ostrov wrote:

> >> Hah!  Well, I didn't really want to have to tell you this, but I lied.
> >> Superior ZOGGIES of the West (and the best) actually _get paid_ to go
> >> see the movie.  The fifteen percent discount is on the popcorn.  So
> >> there.
> 
> >We get free popcorn *and* a percentage of the box office.
> 
> Yeah, but you have to *pay* for the extra butter.  Besides, your
> percentage of the box office is only *after* we've taken our cut off
> the top.

Dream on.  Our popcorn (with all garnishes) is totally free, as is the
beluga cavier and Dom Perignon available in the private boxes.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@Unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Mon Jul 22 02:16:34 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
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Subject: One day at the IHR...
Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 19:25:04 -0300
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"Ladies and Gentlemen, I call this meeting to order.  The secretary
will read the minutes of the last meeting."

"Thank you, sir.  Seven-oh-one meeting called to order,
seven-oh-two minutes read, seven-oh-three Mr Giwer objected
because he claimed the minutes did not accurately reflect
what he said..."

"I didn't say that!"

"...seven-oh-four Mr Giwer continued to repeat his demand,
with the addition that all recorded comments he had made
be removed from the record..."

"I did not!  And I want you to remove all previous mention
of me from the minutes!"

"...seven-oh-five Mr Giwer demanded the removal of all mention
of him from the minutes.  Seven-oh-six an unknown party slugged
Mr Giwer over the head with a mug.  Seven-oh-seven Council
with the abstention of Mr Giwer thanked the unknown party.
New business raised covered getting waking up Mr Giwer..."

"Um, thank you, Ann.  All in favor of accepting the minutes
as read signify by saying 'aye'."

"Aye."

"All opposed?"

"I'll sue!  It's a conspiracy!  RICO comes in!  I'll sue!"

"Shut up, Matt.  Save it for the real enemy, the evil force
that lurks beyond the gates, our enemies in our quest, the
pure incarnation of suffering and sin, the very reason for
our existance..."

"Carto's back in town?"

"No, you blithering idiot!  The Jews!"

"Oh yeah."

"Mr Moran, report from the entertainment division?"

"Moran are currently investigating boycotting the movie
'Independence Day' because of its blatent portrayal of
Jews and Blacks saving the world."

"That's good."

"Who cares?  It's a bomb anyway."

"Um, it made like a hundred million dollars in its first
week."

"That's what Moran said.  A bomb."

"Ooookay.  Report on the efforts to prove gas chambers didn't
exist.  Ceacca?"

"Well, I have to start off by commenting that Matt's behavior
has had a negative influence on the Net community, making it
harder for those of us who try to act superior."

"It does not!"

"And his jokes and silly stories are getting too ridiculous
for words.  Everyone thinks he's as stupid as Moran."

"Moran is not stupid."

"Then why the hell do you talk about yourself in the third
person, you idiot?"

"Moran does not talk about Moran in the third Moran!"

"Shut up, Moran."

"I'll sue!"

"Shut up, Giwer."

"Jews, Jews....hahahaha!...crawling up my shoes..."

"What was that, Bobby?"

"Jews...garble...taking over my brain..."

"Will someone shut him up?"

"How dare you respond to him like that!  I'll sue!"

"You're making us look stupid, shit-for-brains."

"Oh look who's talking.  What's the name of your left
hand, Les?  Marie?"

"Why you..."

"Sit down at once!"

"Hmm.  Not a very professional meeting."

"Shut the hell up, Butz.  You want to do better, get off that
fence you guys over at CODOH claim to have shoved up your ass
and help us out here."

"We seek only open debate..."

"Oh can it, you pompous jerk.  Everyone knows you guys are about
as objective as a naval officer on leave in a brothel."

"I resent that."

"Sue!  I'd sue!"

"Yeah, right.  Who gives you legal advice, Bozo the Clown?"

"Hey, he's a Jew!  His father's a rabbi!"

"That's Krusty the Clown you ignorant chowderhead."

"Fine thing to say, idiot."

"Jerkweed."

"Ann, please take this down.  Meeting closed at seven-ten
PM due to orders of the Chair.  This one lasted how much
longer than the last one?"

"Twenty-six seconds, sir."

"Hey!  Your censoring me!  I'll sue!"

"Someone get me an aspirin..."

--
Keith Morrison
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Hilary Ostrov wrote:

> >Mnad!  Won ew evah ot hctiws ot eht etanretla edoc.  Yllufepoh
> >Rewig lliw ton eb elba ot etartenep ti (gnimmussa eh nac etartenep
> >gnihtyna).
> 
> >--
> >Thiek Nosirrom
> >bnu@o80t
> 
> Tout est perdu!  Tu lui as donne le secret de la code.  Maintenant, il
> 
> faut qu'on trouve un autre.

Imay ownay witchingsay otay hetay otheray odecay.

(Calisse, s'il faut changer le maudit code une autre fois je surais fous).

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,berlin.general,fido.contakt-ger,chemnitz.talk
Subject: Re: Allies Murdered German POW's
Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 16:22:23 -0300
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echte Wahrheit wrote:
> 
> In the documentary book EISENHOWER 7 THE GERMAN POW'S, by Gunter Bischoff
> and Steven Ambrose,published in 1992, is detailed the story of the
> deliberate murder of German POW's at the end of WW II.
> 
> Why did Eisenhuere order the deliberate starvation to death of German
> prisoners,in conditions similar to the alleged concentration camps?
> 
> This was in direct contravention of the Geneva Convention regarding
> treatment of prisoners of war.
> 
> Who pulled the strings on Eisenhuere?Why did the other allied commanders
> not object,such as the British,Canadian and French, who were the
> accomplices in this deliberate genocide?Why were so many Jewish officers
> involved in the inhumane treatment of the German prisoners?
> 
> Open discussion on this black era of US history must be discussed,since
> this is just as shameful as the Russian gulags!!!

The book in question is in fact a compilation of essays written in
response to Basque's "Other Losses", demonstrating the inadequacy of
any research Bacque did and the untenable claims he made.

If 'echte Wahrheit' knew what s/he was talking about, it would become
very clear that the book presents a case totally opposite of what
s/he claimed it does.

The revisionist method strikes again.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Call Me a Revisionist, But ....
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Kevin Filan wrote:

>         Ingrid seems to draw the distinction that "not all Jews are
> members of ZOG."  I'm curious as to how she would distinguish between
> "ZOGgers" and "non-ZOGgers" -- and what she feels the appropriate
> response would be to each.

A ZOG-associated Jew is one whom is not present when she is talking.

I believe the same thing came up about a year or so ago when Miltie
made some rather obnoxious remarks about Jews that were slightly
more extreme than he would otherwise say and someone called him on it.
It was amusing to watch him make the large pronouncements about
the Jewish scum of the earth etc etc and then backpeddle frantically
when someone who was Jewish asked him about it directly.

You know how it is.  Talk big until the target of your speech is
actually there to respond directly.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@Unb.ca


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From: Keith Morrison 
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Subject: Re: The THE himself
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Matt Giwer wrote:

[Ken's address deleted]

>         Should anyone be interested for any purpose whatsoever.

Should that be taken as a threat, Mr Giwer?  

--
Keith Morrison
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Subject: Re: AN ADMISSION OF PERFIDIOUS GUILT
Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 17:41:43 -0300
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Hilary Ostrov wrote:

> >Dream on.  Our popcorn (with all garnishes) is totally free, as is the
> >beluga cavier and Dom Perignon available in the private boxes.
> 
> Well, if you happen to like your box of popcorn with beluga caviar and
> drenched in Dom Perignon, no wonder you keep it private. But I'll
> settle for the non-soggy, non-fishy popcorn, thank you very much.
> Chacun a son gout, as they say.
> 
> But east is still east ... and west is still best.

Yeah yeah.  You'll note that using this logic someone
>from  the Aleutians can demonstrate how BC stinks.

--
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schwartz@infinet.com wrote:

> "He who makes a claim bears the responsibility of supporting it." (Matt Giwer)
> 
> "Never debate, only attack." (Matt Giwer)
> 
> Does any of this sound familiar to you, Mr. Giwer?
> 
> How about the sound of a hypocrite talking to himself?

Is that a koan?

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From: Keith Morrison 
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Subject: Re: Mattie Giwer can contradict himself *six* times before breakfast?
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 19:10:32 -0300
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Derek Bell wrote:
> 
> mgiwer@ix.netcom.com (Matt  Giwer) writes:
> >       This time I said nothing about suing.
> 
>         Then what was this crap about "further, unspecified penalties" in your
> post about Nizkor?

Oh, it was a threat against Ken and/or Nizkor, possibly involving illegal
acts.

Since Ken and Nizkor is is based in canada, I believe that Mr Giwer might
want to look up the following facinating pieces of Canadian law, found
in the Criminal Code.

264.1, 300, 301, 302, 346.  Mr Giwer might also want to carefully study
section 22 (Person Counselling Offense).

I believe that Canada has an active extradition treaty with the US, no?
Maybe we won't have to go to Florida to see Mr Giwer.  Perhaps Mr Giwer
will be coming to Canada to visit us.

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Subject: Re: The THE himself
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Laura Finsten wrote:
> 
> dmittleman@misvms.bpa.arizona.edu (Danny Mittleman) wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> >    Oh, don't thank me, thank Giwer.  He clearly does much more than anyone
> >    else to promote contributions to Nizkor.  If I didn't know better, I'd
> >    assume he was a plant.
> 
> At this point, I think the evidence strongly points in that direction.
> There isn't much to support the thesis that he is a sentient creature
> (animal), but I'm not yet entirely convinced that he is not mineral.

I resent the implication that he falls within my science.
However I do admit a certain facination in studying him.

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iznogod wrote:
> 
>         Well Rabbi Shlomo wait until your white daughter grows up and
> goes to high school with big buck Congolese who walk around the hall ways
> like monkeys with their hands around their doohickies and tell your
> daughter something I'm not willing to repeat and maybe if they like her a
> little bit, they'll rape her. Just like they did in the Congo in 1961 on
> "Independence "Day. You should move to S.E. D.C. and put your daughter in
> an all black school like I went too, and then you'll come out a hardened
> 'racist' like all my Jewishfriends: especially the Khazar Jewish girl who
> had her hair burned off by two blacks. Do't sit in your chair and
> liberalize. Go to Detroit or Chicago or L.A. with Hispanics, Vietnamese
> and Congolese and if you daughter comes home with one your racial
> instinct will kick in: if you still haven't lost it. But for your case,
> I'll pray to the gods for the safety of your daughter: and that my good
> man is a lot to say coming from an Atheist.

Well, so much for the apparent intelligent revisionist.

Go White Power Ranger!

--
Keith Morrison
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william c anderson wrote:
> 
> Matt  Giwer (mgiwer@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
> :       And non-paranoid reading what I posted knows that I have never
> :       threatened a lawsuit and there have been many posts in that regard.
> :
> :       All of the message traffic about the lawsuit had no basis in
> :       anything I said, save for the paranoid.
> :
> :       But the holohuggers are very paranoid.
> 
> Remarkable.  Giwer backpedals--once again--by telling an obvious and
> easily-exposed lie.  If nobody beats me to it, I'm going to hit
> dejanews--anybody want to bet I won't find at least half-a-dozen
> posts in which Giwer threatens, alludes, or otherwise refers to his
> silly class-action RICO suit idea?

=================================================================================
Subject:      class action lawsuit
From:         mgiwer@ix.netcom.com (Matt  Giwer)
Date:         1996/07/13
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        Is there anyone here interested in a class action lawsuit against McVay
and Nizkor?

        I will be collecting these and forwarding them to an attorney who may be
or may not be interested in the case depending upon the responses and
the documentation supporting those responses.

        Please respond email.  


=================================================================================

I believe further comment is unnecessary.

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Keith Morrison
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Marty Kelley wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 22 Jul 1996, Matt  Giwer wrote:
> 
> >       But then this year the Award went to a movie about a talking pig.
> 
> Mel Gibson is a talking pig?  Man, I sure am glad I didn't bother going to
> see _Braveheart_.  Didn't know it was about a talking pig, though.

It was another demonstration of the Hibernian Occupational Government (HOG).

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schwartz@infinet.com wrote:

> Giwerese ALERT:
> 
> "...jerk your knees on request list trained animals..."
> 
> I'm not on any request list, Mr. Giwer.
> 
> Can you explain what you mean?
> 
> And please remember, I'm only 145 IQ, so use small words.

Speaking on behalf of a shy person who is also three-and-a-bit
deviations above everybody's favourite bell curve, they would also
like to know what the hell Giwer is talking about.

Funny.  Miltie claimed 146 or something and he was usually much
more comprehensible than Giwer.  At least his sentences parsed.

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Yale F. Edeiken wrote:
> 
> >   mstein@access5.digex.net (Michael P. Stein) writes:
> 
> >      Anyway, at this point, should even lightning strike Ken McVay, by his
> >  own account Mr. Giwer will be having a serious talk with his local
> >  gendarmes.  He has said some very, very silly things in public.
> 
>         Actually it's the FBI who will be talking to him in that case.  The US
> attorney in Tampa takes a dim view of extortion.

Since this would be a cross-border excercise, might the RCMP become involved?
I know they would be extremely amused at the comments Giwer has made about
those of us above the 49th parallel.

And I hear Kingston is quite lovely this time of year...

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Subject: Re: Mattie Giwer can contradict himself *six* times before breakfast?
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Yale F. Edeiken wrote:

> >  Since Ken and Nizkor is is based in canada, I believe that Mr Giwer might
> >  want to look up the following facinating pieces of Canadian law, found
> >  in the Criminal Code.
> 
> >  264.1, 300, 301, 302, 346.  Mr Giwer might also want to carefully study
> >  section 22 (Person Counselling Offense).
> 
> >  I believe that Canada has an active extradition treaty with the US, no?
> >  Maybe we won't have to go to Florida to see Mr Giwer.  Perhaps Mr Giwer
> >  will be coming to Canada to visit us.
> 
>         Actually Matty poo is in deeper doo-doo than he realizes.  Technically
> we have a "request" to perform a specific act coupled with an unspecified threat
> which was later clarified as being a threat of extra legal action.  In the United
> States we call that "extortion."  At least that's what the U.S. Attorney assigned to
> Tampa thought.

I believe the same applies up this way.  For those interested, the sections I 
mentioned are titled:

264.1  Uttering Threats
300    Punishment of Libel Known to be False
301    Punishment for Defamatory Libel
302    Extortion by Libel
346    Extortion

and my personal favourite, 22 (Person Counselling Offense).


>         As I told Matty poo:  it's time for him to find a god.  The prayers for
> MacVay and Nizkor be should be very sincere.  I suggest he makes them on a
> regular basis.

The Gideons give out Bibles at federal institutions, yes?  Perhaps Matt
can bone up on his theological knowledge.  He may have some time on his
hands.

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Matt Giwer wrote:

> >    Perhaps I should have posted your parents' full address and phone
> >number.  After all, it too is publicly available if you know the right web
> >site.  Would it bother you if I did that?  After all, it would not be my
> >fault since I am only making available what others have already made
> >available.
> 
> >    For any purpose whatsoever.
> 
>         That would not be a pleasant thing for you to do.  In fact were anything to
> happen to them because of that, it might in fact be the last thing you ever
> do.  I hope that is clear.
> 
>         Your fate will be dependent upon the consequences of your actions.

"Once I saw a hypocrite, doo-dah doo-dah"

Actually, Matt, should anything happen to your parents if someone did that,
they would indeed be liable to a civil, if not criminal action.

Now think *real* hard and try and remember someone else who posted another
person's address, with the comment "For any purpose whatsoever" and consider
that for a moment.


 
>         I have in mind revealing holohuggers for what they are to the media and you in
> particular.  That should set you terrorists back a bit.

Media?  You mean CourtTV covers small time extortionists such as yourself?

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Laura Finsten wrote:

> >> >    Oh, don't thank me, thank Giwer.  He clearly does much more than anyone
> >> >    else to promote contributions to Nizkor.  If I didn't know better, I'd
> >> >    assume he was a plant.
> 
> >> At this point, I think the evidence strongly points in that direction.
> >> There isn't much to support the thesis that he is a sentient creature
> >> (animal), but I'm not yet entirely convinced that he is not mineral.
> 
> >I resent the implication that he falls within my science.
> >However I do admit a certain facination in studying him.
> 
> You know, Keith, it might be that he actually falls somewhere between yours
> and mine.  My hypothesis is that his cranium began to fossilise before it
> had finished growing, and that the bones not of the skull and also the matter
> normally contained with the skull have long been undergoing a slow, gradual
> process of mineralisation.  What do you think?  Seem plausible based on
> the evidence?

We may get a chance to examine the subject in somewhat confined conditions
to determine exactly what kingdom he belongs to, although I lean toward 
the protists myself.  Maybe the fungi.  They don't seem to like the light
either.

Of course, I am a hard rock geologist, so I may be able to lend some
expertise in this area.

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Derek Bell wrote:
> 
> dkeren@world.std.com (Daniel Keren) writes:
> >Remember folks, he says his IQ is 163. Moreover, I recall
> >that he claims to have taken a few IQ tests and that 163
> >was his lowest score.
> 
>         Judging by Giwer's posts I would say he isn't exactly Mensa material!
> 
>         Or even *approximately*!!

Sure he is, if you give the margin of error as +/- 200 points.

Needless to say, I tend to think it's nearer the lower limit.

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Yale F. Edeiken wrote:

> >  Since Ken and Nizkor is is based in canada, I believe that Mr Giwer might
> >  want to look up the following facinating pieces of Canadian law, found
> >  in the Criminal Code.
> 
> >  264.1, 300, 301, 302, 346.  Mr Giwer might also want to carefully study
> >  section 22 (Person Counselling Offense).
> 
> >  I believe that Canada has an active extradition treaty with the US, no?
> >  Maybe we won't have to go to Florida to see Mr Giwer.  Perhaps Mr Giwer
> >  will be coming to Canada to visit us.
> 
>         Actually Matty poo is in deeper doo-doo than he realizes.  Technically
> we have a "request" to perform a specific act coupled with an unspecified threat
> which was later clarified as being a threat of extra legal action.  In the United
> States we call that "extortion."  At least that's what the U.S. Attorney assigned to
> Tampa thought.

I believe the same applies up this way.  For those interested, the sections I 
mentioned are titled:

264.1  Uttering Threats
300    Punishment of Libel Known to be False
301    Punishment for Defamatory Libel
302    Extortion by Libel
346    Extortion

and my personal favourite, 22 (Person Counselling Offense).


>         As I told Matty poo:  it's time for him to find a god.  The prayers for
> MacVay and Nizkor be should be very sincere.  I suggest he makes them on a
> regular basis.

The Gideons give out Bibles at federal institutions, yes?  Perhaps Matt
can bone up on his theological knowledge.  He may have some time on his
hands.

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Derek Bell wrote:
> 
> dkeren@world.std.com (Daniel Keren) writes:
> >Remember folks, he says his IQ is 163. Moreover, I recall
> >that he claims to have taken a few IQ tests and that 163
> >was his lowest score.
> 
>         Judging by Giwer's posts I would say he isn't exactly Mensa material!
> 
>         Or even *approximately*!!

Sure he is, if you give the margin of error as +/- 200 points.

Needless to say, I tend to think it's nearer the lower limit.

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Subject: Re: Substance and Hot Air
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 19:06:28 -0300
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Marty Kelley wrote:

> > > >       But then this year the Award went to a movie about a talking pig.
> > >
> > > Mel Gibson is a talking pig?  Man, I sure am glad I didn't bother going to
> > > see _Braveheart_.  Didn't know it was about a talking pig, though.
> >
> > It was another demonstration of the Hibernian Occupational Government (HOG).
> 
> Keith, that's atrocious!  You should be kilt for a gag like that!

Yeah yeah, they should loch me up and through away the key.  Almost
got away with the caber, though.  Now everyone will think I'm lower
than fungal sporrins.  But I like the claymore of a crowd.

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Subject: Re: McFlea
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Ehrlich606 wrote:

> >Giwer) writes...
> >>McFlea, McFly, it does not matter.
> >>This fool clams to be in his 50s and has the intellecutal age of a
> teenager.
> >>Beyond that, he is a greate defend of what he is incapable of
> understandiug.
> >
> >>After all, he is a mongoloid idiot behind a keyboard.
> >
> >    Hmmm.  A well reasoned, well cited argument.  Maybe there is
> something
> >    to this Giwer guy afterall?
> >
> >    Not.
> 
> The interesting thing about the name *McFlea* is that it means *son of
> flea.*  It is also interesting to note the Dr. Blaha's name is an old
> Slavic word for -- *flea.* Could it be?!

No, the interesting thing is that since there is no such person
here with that name, the whole point is rather...well, pointless.

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Vyshinsky wrote:

> The origin of the details of the Holocaust are
> the inherited sexual problems of the asian race.  

Thus explaining why there are a few billion representative
members...

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Keith Morrison
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Yale F. Edeiken wrote:

>         Sure.  For one thing I forgot the Japanese, the Chinese, and various
> Hispanic groups.

So I guess this means that Matt now denies that Japanese-Americans were
interned during WW2?

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Ehrlich606 wrote:

> Dan, I like your posts, but your attempt at a remorseless putdown of Tom
> would have been better if you got your magnitudes right.  A ton is either
> 2,000 lbs. or 2,240, long or short.  So everyone gets 7.4 grams a day,
> which is _twice_ as much as you calculated.

There are, however, 1000 kilos in a metric tonne which is the unit that
Danny was using.  

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Vyshinsky wrote:

> > censor the internet! http://www.anonymizer.com/http://www.stanford.edu/~llurch/potw2/
> 
> A lame parody of National Alliance.

Glad you think so, since just about all the stuff is actual NA material with the
substitution of a few key words.

Looks rather silly, doesn't it?

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Joel Rosenberg wrote:

> >Hmmm.. and what are the American laws relating to extortion?
> >Which agencies might take an interest in such matters, Mr.
> >Edeiken?
> 
> [waving hand wildly]
> 
> I know, I know!  There's the AG's office in the state of residence of
> the person committing extortion, and there's the FBI.  And there's
> also the Department of State, come to think of it.

Department of State?  So, you mean Matt Giwer can become a bigger
embarressment to the United States than he already is?

How amusing.

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Ehrlich606 wrote:

> OK, if I have missed a beat somewhere in here I sincerely apologize.  As I
> recall, Matt started talking up suit a week or so ago, and I understood
> the basis was to get others to stop threatening him.  Then some guy called
> his Dad, and Matt blew his top.  I can't say I blame him.

As I recall you recall incorrectly.  Apparently Giwer was all upset that
people were using his own posts to prove him an idiot and demanded that
Nizkor remove all mention of him.

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Vyshinsky wrote:

> 
> Politicians are controlled by Jews.  It is unnecessary for Jews to be
> president for this to be so.

So answer me this.  Why has this Omnipotent Jewish Cabal allowed you
and those like you to post your anti-semitic drivel to the Internet?
Why has your phoneline not been disconnected, your computer not seized,
all academic accounts  not frozen and a government order banning you from
the net not been given to ISPs?

Could it be because there really is no Incredible Jewish Conspiracy to
Control Our Thoughts?  Nah, that would be the simple answer.

You can't have it two ways.  Either this all-powerful conspiracy exists
or it doesn't.

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jesusdung wrote:

> > As for Jews not doing productive work, well I guess that's a matter of
> > opinion, ain't it? My father is a doctor. That's certainly fairly
> > productive work, saving lives. Sometimes he even saves the lives of scum
> > like you and your hate-filled cronies.
>
>         Actually  Sara, now we can have a discussion on the positiv
> aspects of jews. Your dad is a prime example. He is a joe shmoe hard
> worker who helps people get well. I know many jews who are prime example
> of samaritanism. Some of my best friends are jews and they are the
> smartest, most cultured individuals i have ever meet. 

Oh, here we go again.  "Well, okay, I said the Jews were scum of the
Earth, but I didn't mean *all* the Jews and I especially didn't mean
you, just the other bloodsucking members of your group."

You'll note he even used the classic "some of my best friends are Jews".

Sheesh.  You'd think they'd get some original material.

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Matt Giwer wrote:

> >    There is a strong philosophy of free and open speech here.  But I
> >    predict the day is coming very soon where Matt Giwer will simply
> >    disappear from alt.revisionism forever.  Very soon.
> 
>         That is neither the first time it has been predicted nor the first time you
> have predicted it.
> 
>         Or shall I take this as a threat under the laws of Canada?

You may get an opportunity to examine the Canadian justice system up close
and person...at the leisure of the Crown.

Perhaps you can discuss who exactly is referred to by the term "the Crown"
as you did a few months back with several members of the Canadian bar.

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Mark Van Alstine wrote:
> 
> In article <31F57FF7.182C@unb.ca>, Keith Morrison  wrote:

> > Department of State?  So, you mean Matt Giwer can become a bigger
> > embarressment to the United States than he already is?
> >
> > How amusing.
> 
> Hey! Watch it there! You have Zundel and Lemire, and.... };->

Yeah yeah.  The loons migrated north, I know.

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Laura Finsten wrote:
> 
> mvanalst@rbi.com (Mark Van Alstine) wrote:
> >In article ,
> >schwartz@infinet.com wrote:
> 
> >> Mr. Giwer just can't keep that little foot out of his mouth, can he?
> 
> >Sure doesn't seem like it. It's a rather suprsing feet of contortionism,
> >actually, considering that he has his head up his ass....
> 
> That explains why the bones of the ear are part of the pelvis???

Oh, leave me alone.  One misplaced word and everybody freaks.  Sheesh.

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Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
> On 25 Jul 1996 18:38:38 +0100, dbell@maths.tcd.ie (Derek Bell) wrote:
> 
> >mgiwer@ix.netcom.com (Matt  Giwer) writes:
> >>On Mon, 22 Jul 1996 21:02:47 GMT, dkeren@world.std.com (Daniel Keren) wrote:
> >>>Remember folks, he says his IQ is 163. Moreover, I recall
> >>>that he claims to have taken a few IQ tests and that 163
> >>>was his lowest score.
> >>      That is correct, jerkoff and Alec, if he is in an honest mood, will
> >>tell you my opinion of such tests,
> 
> >       What is your opinion of such tests?
> 
>         That they are an exercise in taking tests.  That dawned on me when reading The
> Bell Curve.  That idea answered a long standing question I had in getting 163
> on one test and 190 something on another.

Oh yeah, 190, sure.  How, did you copy the responses from the answer sheet?
Given your demonstrated lack of reading comprehension it must have been one
of those match the patterns tests because I doubt you could have answered
any of the questions on the Mensa tests.

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Subject: Re: JesuatheistRe:the jews
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Janet wrote:
> 
> Don't let them get to ya.
> They talk about "facts" just as their
> punching below the belt.
> You make concrete points and they insult you for having made a
> mere spelling error.
> They aren't equipped to debate as we know it. Punch for punch -
> whoever has the strongest stance wins, No, they  pass over points
> that disagree with them, search out the most vulnerable aspect,
> no matter what it is, 

So you've caught on to Holocaust denier methodology.  That's good.

> and they, the jews, attack full force. To
> them there is no such thing as "fair play".
> Their jews and they don't live with the sense of morality that we
> have.
> I had thought debate was possible but, really, jews are jews and
> they aren't anything but.

Oh, whatever was I thinking?  Should have known better than to
expect a reasonable commentary.

And before you put your foot in your mouth, I'm not Jewish.

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Danny Mittleman wrote:
> 
> In article <4tadum$4bja@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>, gmcfee@ibm.net writes...
> >
> >You might say that Mattie-poo is unarmed in a battle of wits?  :-)
> >
> >Next he'll be calling me fatbroad.
> 
>     That's nothing.  When Michael Keaton posted here, Giwer called him a
>     batfraud.
> 
>     {duck}

*groan*

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WolfsHook4 wrote:
> 
> Disgusted with the idiocy of both sides...
> 
> The Truth hurts- that's why so many fight tooth and nail to  keep it from
> being said and spread.

What "truth" did you have in mind?

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schwartz@infinet.com wrote:

> >         Is that how you keep your attornies in line in Canada?  Prohibit
> them from
> > talking about lawsuits?
> 
> I'm confused, Alec.
> 
> What are these "attornies" that Matt refers to?
> 
> Are they some sort of Canadian thing?

Allow me to step in.  They are a frequent result of childhood accidents
and can often be seen in jeans worn by teenagers and those who think
torn clothing is attractive.

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Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
>         A classic example.
> 
>         Putting everything together as of 7/26 there was a small explosion and the 2.5
> miles later the entire plane exploded.
> 
>         Everything points to a bomb on board.
> 
>         Yet we have dozens of eyewitnesses including an AF reservist reporting
> something like a missile rising towards the plane.
> 
>         This is despite the impossible "it looked like a meteorite" trajectory
> description of one.

Please demonstrate the theoretical basis for claiming that a meteorite
strike is an absolute impossibility *if* no other more ordinary reason
is identified.  Please note that meteorites and their effects on the
planet are one of my interests so try not to stick your foot in your
mouth again.

>         This despite the impossible altitude for a Stinger.

Please indicate why a man who claims to have had as much military
exposure such as yourself believes that Stingers are the only antiaircraft
missiles available in the world.


>         But then we never said holohuggers were very bright.

No, we've said that *you* aren't very bright.

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Vyshinsky wrote:

> > Yep.  Today the US.  Tomorrow the world.  Watch out Vyshinski, we'll get you.
> >
> > Rest snipped.
> >
> > Martin Fox
> 
> an659081@anon.penet.fi, fox@stt.msu.edu, Martin Fox
> 
> Watch out world conquerer, I have your anon.penet.fi ID.  When
> responding to an anon.penet.fi posting, it's proper to transpose
> the \a and the \n so that the response will be non-anonymous,
> and, I presume, faster.  llurch@stanford.edu is the only one
> who's ever resonded directly without stupidly sending it to me
> by my anon.penet.fi ID.  Be grateful that I'm posting this
> information, and not waiting till I have a large collection
> of ignoroids who are actually trying to be anonymous.

[snip]

> So far, I've beem ignoring this and protecting their privacy,
> as security by ignorance, but I'm tired of this.  Live and learn,
> I suppose, is too much to ask, considering how most anti-racists
> are imbeciles.

I suppose it never occured to you, oh irony-deficient one, that
he may have been being sarcastic and thus had no reason to conceal
his identity?

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Vyshinsky wrote:

> Television is uniformly Jewish, with the same message of
> extermination of the 600,000,000, so it matters not what
> you watch, so I watch a little, if I'm not, at least, bored
> of it already, for examples, the Simpsons, Beavis 'n Butthead,
> and the Three Stooges.  The sillier stuff is usually less
> harmful than the lies masquerading as truth, but that's just
> my feeling at this time.  It's all colored, all Jewish.

However do you manage to stand "The Simpsons"?  There's
a charcter who's Jewish and had a show devoted to him,
another who's East Asian and one who is gay (and another
who had some...umm..."affection" for animals).

On the other hand, Beavis and Butthead are definetly in
your league.

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Matt Giwer wrote:

>         Please speak into the microphone.  This sounds like a much bigger can of worms
> than I ever imagined I would open.

Try not to swallow any as you are drowning in said can.

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Yale F. Edeiken wrote:
> 
> >   ehrlich606@aol.com (Ehrlich606) writes:
> >
> >  >>>  On 24 Jul 1996 03:57:11 GMT, yawen@enter.net (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote:
> >  >>Potatoes are not part of the ritual meal.  Period.
> 
> >  Unless Dan Quayle is invited.
> 
>         Not true.  We offer him potatos.

Can't you leave the poor boy alone?  I'm sure his spelling was a
result of trauma he suffered while defending Indiana against
the Viet Cong and the NVA.

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Vyshinsky wrote:

> Jews inherently control a free market, because their genotype causes
> them to focus on slaving away for their own kind, to sacrifice their
> own potential freedom to make the rich Jews richer.  No other race
> has the genetic bindings to cause such extremes of sacrifice for the
> common wealth of their own members of the capitalist class, therefore,
> to take away Jewish power, requires anti-semitism, the control of the
> market, nationalism.  None other than the white race can so sacrifice
> themselves for the common good of their community, the natural status
> of the whites being the highest realms of their own type of
> civilization, and incidental good to other races by accident or
> agreement. 

Uh, right...

> No other race but the white race, has the genotype to
> learn from other races without despoiling our own in any way.  We put
> our imprint everywhere, though colored races are uncharitable enough
> to refuse to say it, that their cultures are now white with a coloured
> imprint strong enough to distinguish their charactor from the white,
> similar to the white mold, though we should consider ourselves to have
> a white culture with a strong coloured imprint, strong enough that the
> current white culture can be considered Afro-Asian for rhetorical
> reasons, to distinguish from purely white racial culture.

Tell you what, why don't you take a biology course or better yet
introductory genetics and then try and figure out how genetics can
be responsible for such specific and culturally-directed behaviour.

And while you're at it, feel free to describe a "purely white racial
culture".  An example would be nice.

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Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
>         A classic example.
> 
>         Putting everything together as of 7/26 there was a small explosion and the 2.5
> miles later the entire plane exploded.
> 
>         Everything points to a bomb on board.
> 
>         Yet we have dozens of eyewitnesses including an AF reservist reporting
> something like a missile rising towards the plane.
> 
>         This is despite the impossible "it looked like a meteorite" trajectory
> description of one.

Please demonstrate the theoretical basis for claiming that a meteorite
strike is an absolute impossibility *if* no other more ordinary reason
is identified.  Please note that meteorites and their effects on the
planet are one of my interests so try not to stick your foot in your
mouth again.

>         This despite the impossible altitude for a Stinger.

Please indicate why a man who claims to have had as much military
exposure such as yourself believes that Stingers are the only antiaircraft
missiles available in the world.


>         But then we never said holohuggers were very bright.

No, we've said that *you* aren't very bright.

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Vyshinsky wrote:

> > Yep.  Today the US.  Tomorrow the world.  Watch out Vyshinski, we'll get you.
> >
> > Rest snipped.
> >
> > Martin Fox
> 
> an659081@anon.penet.fi, fox@stt.msu.edu, Martin Fox
> 
> Watch out world conquerer, I have your anon.penet.fi ID.  When
> responding to an anon.penet.fi posting, it's proper to transpose
> the \a and the \n so that the response will be non-anonymous,
> and, I presume, faster.  llurch@stanford.edu is the only one
> who's ever resonded directly without stupidly sending it to me
> by my anon.penet.fi ID.  Be grateful that I'm posting this
> information, and not waiting till I have a large collection
> of ignoroids who are actually trying to be anonymous.

[snip]

> So far, I've beem ignoring this and protecting their privacy,
> as security by ignorance, but I'm tired of this.  Live and learn,
> I suppose, is too much to ask, considering how most anti-racists
> are imbeciles.

I suppose it never occured to you, oh irony-deficient one, that
he may have been being sarcastic and thus had no reason to conceal
his identity?

--
Keith Morrison
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.russia,alt.revisionism,alt.fan.ernst-zundel,soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Keeping Neighborhoods Jewish (ADV)
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Vyshinsky wrote:

> Television is uniformly Jewish, with the same message of
> extermination of the 600,000,000, so it matters not what
> you watch, so I watch a little, if I'm not, at least, bored
> of it already, for examples, the Simpsons, Beavis 'n Butthead,
> and the Three Stooges.  The sillier stuff is usually less
> harmful than the lies masquerading as truth, but that's just
> my feeling at this time.  It's all colored, all Jewish.

However do you manage to stand "The Simpsons"?  There's
a charcter who's Jewish and had a show devoted to him,
another who's East Asian and one who is gay (and another
who had some...umm..."affection" for animals).

On the other hand, Beavis and Butthead are definetly in
your league.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: The THE himself
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 18:35:05 -0300
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Matt Giwer wrote:

>         Please speak into the microphone.  This sounds like a much bigger can of worms
> than I ever imagined I would open.

Try not to swallow any as you are drowning in said can.

--
Keith Morrison
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From: Keith Morrison 
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Subject: Re: Khazars
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Yale F. Edeiken wrote:
> 
> >   ehrlich606@aol.com (Ehrlich606) writes:
> >
> >  >>>  On 24 Jul 1996 03:57:11 GMT, yawen@enter.net (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote:
> >  >>Potatoes are not part of the ritual meal.  Period.
> 
> >  Unless Dan Quayle is invited.
> 
>         Not true.  We offer him potatos.

Can't you leave the poor boy alone?  I'm sure his spelling was a
result of trauma he suffered while defending Indiana against
the Viet Cong and the NVA.

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From: Keith Morrison 
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Subject: Re: Keeping Neighborhoods Jewish (ADV)
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Vyshinsky wrote:

> Jews inherently control a free market, because their genotype causes
> them to focus on slaving away for their own kind, to sacrifice their
> own potential freedom to make the rich Jews richer.  No other race
> has the genetic bindings to cause such extremes of sacrifice for the
> common wealth of their own members of the capitalist class, therefore,
> to take away Jewish power, requires anti-semitism, the control of the
> market, nationalism.  None other than the white race can so sacrifice
> themselves for the common good of their community, the natural status
> of the whites being the highest realms of their own type of
> civilization, and incidental good to other races by accident or
> agreement. 

Uh, right...

> No other race but the white race, has the genotype to
> learn from other races without despoiling our own in any way.  We put
> our imprint everywhere, though colored races are uncharitable enough
> to refuse to say it, that their cultures are now white with a coloured
> imprint strong enough to distinguish their charactor from the white,
> similar to the white mold, though we should consider ourselves to have
> a white culture with a strong coloured imprint, strong enough that the
> current white culture can be considered Afro-Asian for rhetorical
> reasons, to distinguish from purely white racial culture.

Tell you what, why don't you take a biology course or better yet
introductory genetics and then try and figure out how genetics can
be responsible for such specific and culturally-directed behaviour.

And while you're at it, feel free to describe a "purely white racial
culture".  An example would be nice.

--
Keith Morrison
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From t08o@unb.ca Sun Jul 28 12:41:04 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Giwer is a moron beyond words... (was McVay, never a Marine...)
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 18:24:27 -0300
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Rajiv K. Gandhi wrote:
> 
> In article , dkeren@world.std.com (Daniel Keren)
> wrote:
> 
> > I wrote:
> >
> > [About Matt Giwer, the 163-IQ man]
> >
> [ stuff about Giwer's wonderful personality removed]
> 
> I though his IQ was 190 ?

That's the *other* test he took.  You know, the one that distorts
even more than the other one he referred to.

--
Keith Morriosn
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The honourable Vyshinsky wrote:

> >       Elizabeth Dilling was a paid agent of the nazis before and during
> > WWII.  Labelling her as a "moderate" is like referring to a thre day old corpse as
> > a living person.
> 
> There were moderate national socialists.  Adolf Hitler was a primal
> moderate, putting down the radicals who supported him.  Ms. Dilling(s)
> was a moderate judging exclusively by one of her books.

If Hitler was your idea of a moderate I would really hate to see
your idea of a fanatic.

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Keith Morrison
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Subject: Re: TWA Flt 800
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Michael P. Stein wrote:
 
> >    NPR had a weapons expert on on 7/25 who stated that while the aircraft was
> >    at an altitude greater than the published range for a stinger missile, that
> >    the actual range is about 25% more than is published and that the plane was
> >    within that larger number.
> >
> >>Please indicate why a man who claims to have had as much military
> >>exposure such as yourself believes that Stingers are the only antiaircraft
> >>missiles available in the world.
> >
> >    Actually, the same weapons expert stated that there was not another missile
> >    that was a better candidate for this job than the stinger.
> 
>     However, I also heard a discussion that a stinger would have locked in
> on the engines, and so would probably not have caused the instantaneous
> failure of the voice recorder.  The plane would probably have been able to
> stay in the air longer - the comparison was made to the KAL 007 shootdown.

That's why I doubt a Stinger was involved.  The warhead would have taken out one,
maybe two engines and shrapnel might have penetrated the cabin causing pressure
loss but I doubt you'd get an instantaneous explosion involving the entire aircraft.
The data recorder should have gone nuts over the hit engines screwing up, if even
for a moment and the voice recorders should have heard the initial explosion
and at least a "What the..." from the cockpit.

If you want a a near instantaneous explosion, you want a big missile like a Patriot
or Russian SAM that is radar-guided so it would lock onto the largest target, the
fuselage.  Small man-portables just don't have the bang to do the job unless your
hypothetical terrorist has a horseshoe shoved up his ass.  And if this was an
intentional crash, said terrorist should have the horseshoe, followed by the horse
and a claymore shoved up his ass and the claymore detonated.

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Subject: Re: I AM THE IDIOT VYSHINKSY
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Vyshinksy wrote:
> 
> I am the idiot Vyshinksy,
> Who cowers behind anonymiski.
> I vomit abuse,
> And am wholly obtuse
> And have less sense than a bagel from Minsk(i)

He writes small poems for some reason
And thinks that they really are pleasin'
What a sad fact it is
That in the poetry biz
He sucks.

--
Keith Morrison
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Keith Morrison wrote:
> 
> Vyshinksy wrote:
> >
> > I am the idiot Vyshinksy,
> > Who cowers behind anonymiski.
> > I vomit abuse,
> > And am wholly obtuse
> > And have less sense than a bagel from Minsk(i)
> 
> He writes small poems for some reason
> And thinks that they really are pleasin'
> What a sad fact it is
> That in the poetry biz
> He sucks.

BTW, I see Marduk has expanded his list of targets.

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Hilary Ostrov wrote:

> >>:: Next he'll be calling me fatbroad.
> >>
> >>: When Michael Keaton posted here, Giwer called him a batfraud.
> >>
> >>.. . . and when someone plugged his modem in at a fraternity house, he
> >>called it fratbaud. . .
> 
> >    And when Giwer went to Saudi Arabia and offered the king a sausage, he
> >    said, "brat, Faud?"
> 
> And when Giwer watches his Mickey Mouse cartoons on Saturday mornings,
> he cries "Look at that that ratfraud."

And I thought my loch joke was bad...

At least no one has brought up Giwer trying to lay a lawn and complaining
about the bad sod.

--
Keith Morrison
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Jamie McCarthy wrote:

>    Next on the stand was Gary Botting.  The contrast in styles (and
>    substance) could scarcely have been greater.  Botting, in his
>    mid-forties, was elegantly dressed, sophisticated, the owner of a
>    stratospheric IQ.
> 
> [...]
>    The Oxford-born Botting had a cirriculum vitae which would have
>    raised eyebrows in fifteenth-century Florence.  Answering
> [Zuendel's defense attorney]
>    Christie's opening questions, the still youthful-looking Botting
>    mentioned noteworthy achievements in law, journalism, philosophy,
>    literature, history, the social and natural sciences, public and
>    media relations, film, computers, editing and publishing, college
>    administration, and religion.

Giwer in a previous incarnation?

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Harry Petersen wrote:

>             Thank you for your reply. No doubt you want the world to
> live in peace and harmony.
>             The "Japan" case study is interesting since the U.S.
> conquered them at the end of WWII and then rebuilt their society in our
> image. Some economists have called for Japan to become the 51st state
> of the United States. Why? Because we helped rebuilt their factories
> and brought technology into their culture to a high level. 

I'm sure the Japanese would care to differ.  As for their technology,
as I recall what they had was on par with anything the US had available.
The US helped *rebuild* the industries, not create them.

Oh, and as for capitalism in "non-white" countries, I think that Singapore,
and Taiwan would disagree with you.  And there has been no western military
presence in Taiwan since the Chinese revolution, so your thesis fails.

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Subject: Matt Blows It...Again (was Re: You Can _Never_ Have Too Much Diversity (ADV))
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 19:41:14 -0300
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Matt Giwer wrote:

>         What we do have is a strange situation of a group of immigrants who have a
> virulent support for not their country of origin but one that did not exist
> until after they started arriving here.

Please explain this in light of your contention that there was no significant
non-British population in America prior to the Revolution and that ethnicity
did not exist in the US prior to 1970.

Try and stay focused.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Tue Jul 30 20:36:56 PDT 1996
Article: 54449 of alt.revisionism
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From: Keith Morrison 
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Subject: Re: Nazi Summer Camp Sing Along
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 19:44:48 -0300
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rblackmore@juno.com wrote:
> 
> Hello Muddah, Hello Papa, Here I am at camp treblinka
> I won't tarry, things are scary and I'd rather be home with my Uncle Harry....

Hello Muddah, Hello Fadda
Matt's a tyro, here's annuda
Failing clearly to be witty
Whilst trying to write a clever ditty.

Got no talent, or imagination
Just looking to get attention
By changing one word he thinks he's funny
Hope he finds out that he looks just like a dummy.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Tue Jul 30 20:36:57 PDT 1996
Article: 54469 of alt.revisionism
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Subject: Re: African-Americans, tired of all that White supremacy?
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 21:57:05 -0300
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David Byrden wrote:
> 
> Pete Lienemann wrote:
> 
> 
> > There is strong evidence in middle and south America to suggest that
> > African's [sic] "discovered" us first.
> 
>         Actually, the discoverers of the American continent were Asians.
> They simply walked over what is now the Bering Straits, many thousands
> of years ago. They are now called Native Americans.

And the next ones over were the Vikings, proud discoverers of America
39 000 years later.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Wed Jul 31 13:59:44 PDT 1996
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From: Keith Morrison 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.fan.ernst-zundel,alt.censorship
Subject: Re: SIMON WEISENTHAL CENTER censoring again (repost)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 19:07:17 -0300
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schwartz@infinet.com wrote:

> Personally, I think you should worry a lot more about the Internet. It
> gives you a platform that shows the world how hateful your spew is.

If I was a White Power Ranger I'd probably worry more about how
stupid I looked rather than how hateful I sounded...then again, you
have to show some intelligence to realize that you look stupid.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Wed Jul 31 14:23:34 PDT 1996
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Subject: Re: African-Americans, tired of all that White supremacy?
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David Byrden wrote:
> 
> Pete Lienemann wrote:
> 
> 
> > There is strong evidence in middle and south America to suggest that
> > African's [sic] "discovered" us first.
> 
>         Actually, the discoverers of the American continent were Asians.
> They simply walked over what is now the Bering Straits, many thousands
> of years ago. They are now called Native Americans.

And the next ones over were the Vikings, proud discoverers of America
39 000 years later.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Wed Jul 31 14:28:38 PDT 1996
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David Byrden wrote:
> 
> Pete Lienemann wrote:
> 
> 
> > There is strong evidence in middle and south America to suggest that
> > African's [sic] "discovered" us first.
> 
>         Actually, the discoverers of the American continent were Asians.
> They simply walked over what is now the Bering Straits, many thousands
> of years ago. They are now called Native Americans.

And the next ones over were the Vikings, proud discoverers of America
39 000 years later.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Wed Jul 31 14:44:12 PDT 1996
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David Byrden wrote:
> 
> Pete Lienemann wrote:
> 
> 
> > There is strong evidence in middle and south America to suggest that
> > African's [sic] "discovered" us first.
> 
>         Actually, the discoverers of the American continent were Asians.
> They simply walked over what is now the Bering Straits, many thousands
> of years ago. They are now called Native Americans.

And the next ones over were the Vikings, proud discoverers of America
39 000 years later.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


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Subject: Re: SIMON WEISENTHAL CENTER censoring again (repost)
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schwartz@infinet.com wrote:

> Personally, I think you should worry a lot more about the Internet. It
> gives you a platform that shows the world how hateful your spew is.

If I was a White Power Ranger I'd probably worry more about how
stupid I looked rather than how hateful I sounded...then again, you
have to show some intelligence to realize that you look stupid.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


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Subject: Re: SIMON WEISENTHAL CENTER censoring again (repost)
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schwartz@infinet.com wrote:

> Personally, I think you should worry a lot more about the Internet. It
> gives you a platform that shows the world how hateful your spew is.

If I was a White Power Ranger I'd probably worry more about how
stupid I looked rather than how hateful I sounded...then again, you
have to show some intelligence to realize that you look stupid.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca


From t08o@unb.ca Wed Jul 31 17:06:51 PDT 1996
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David Byrden wrote:
> 
> Pete Lienemann wrote:
> 
> 
> > There is strong evidence in middle and south America to suggest that
> > African's [sic] "discovered" us first.
> 
>         Actually, the discoverers of the American continent were Asians.
> They simply walked over what is now the Bering Straits, many thousands
> of years ago. They are now called Native Americans.

And the next ones over were the Vikings, proud discoverers of America
39 000 years later.

--
Keith Morrison
t08o@unb.ca



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