From John.Morris@UAlberta.CA Thu Jan 9 17:59:31 PST 1997 Article: 92012 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!noc.van.hookup.net!news.bctel.net!nntp.portal.ca!news.bc.net!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news From: John.Morris@UAlberta.CA (John Morris) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: Holohuggers: put your money where your mouth is Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 21:57:09 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Lines: 51 Message-ID: <32d55a0d.3230302@news.srv.ualberta.ca> References: <32d07c8b.14774330@news.gte.net> <5b00lq$h9r@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> <32d458c4.5160258@news.gte.net> <5b25c0$jt6@cnn.cc.biu.ac.il> NNTP-Posting-Host: async1-7.remote.ualberta.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99g/32.339 In <5b25c0$jt6@cnn.cc.biu.ac.il>, schultr@ashur.cc.biu.ac.il (Richard Schultz) wrote: >Prince Myshkin (mgiwer@gte.net) wrote: > >: I learned the correct modern usage of nigger from blacks > >Okay guys. I think that Giwer should be given an all-expense paid >trip from Tampa to Harlem. The purpose of his trip will be to explain >to the locals his knowledge of the correct modern usage of "nigger." >I will be more than happy to help underwrite the expenses for such >a trip. Who's in with me? I can't put up much money, but I'm in. I suggest that Matt use the old method of scholastic disputation: question, argument, counter-argument. It would not do for Matt to enter a Harlem bar and simply state the proposition, "You are all a bunch of niggers." It is perhaps the "in-your-face" style he would prefer, but setting the terms of a debate about correct usage as a positive proposition might make actually organizing the debate problematic since the likeliest response would be simple contradiction rather than debate. Matt might attempt to contradict the contradiction in an effort at a kind of Marcusian dialectic, but those things only work out on paper. In practical debate, contradiction simply leads to further contradiction and, ultimately, some ill will on both sides. Instead, the proposition could be framed as a question: "Are you all a bunch of niggers?" The time required to divide the patrons into teams could be used profitably to consider the framing of arguments. Disputation has the added benefit of allowing both sides of the question to speak more than once with definite and formal limits to the debate. The basic sense of fairness which arises could even lead former adversaries to retire with manly claps on the shoulder and the standing of drinks all round. Either way, I would certainly not wish to impose my view on Matt. I am sure that in the circumstances he will decide upon the right approach. So I'm in for saaaaaay . . . $10 CDN? Oh what the hell! Make it $10 US. -- John Morrisat University of Alberta -- The Nizkor Project | http://www.nizkor.org/
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