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From dmittleman@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu Thu Aug  1 16:43:25 PDT 1996
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From: dmittleman@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu (Danny Mittleman)
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In article <4t3099$r83@lendl.cc.emory.edu>, libwca@curly.cc.emory.edu (william c anderson) writes...
>Matt  Giwer (mgiwer@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
> 
>:Beyond that, he is a greate defend of what he is incapable of understandiug.  
> 
>Okay, who's got the Giwerese dictionary?  I was doing swell, but I
>can't for the life of me figure out what a "greate defend" is.

    It's much more than a "lesse defend"

                         daniel david mittleman 
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From dmittleman@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu Mon Aug  5 14:03:58 PDT 1996
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From: dmittleman@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu (Danny Mittleman)
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Subject: Re: Blacklist of Internet Service Providers?
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In article , schwartz@infinet.com writes...
>In article <023302Z29071996@anon.penet.fi>, an572010@anon.penet.fi wrote:
> 
>> akira@clark.net writes:
>> 
>> > Has there ever been anyone who's compiled a list of rouge ISP's?
> 
>Rouge?

    Just another Nazi trying to identify Communists sites.

                         daniel david mittleman 
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From dmittleman@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu Wed Aug  7 13:26:54 PDT 1996
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From: dmittleman@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu (Danny Mittleman)
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Subject: Re: Holocaust final exam
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In article <3204be4e.1513238@news.pacificnet.net>, tm@pacificnet.net (tom moran) writes...
> 
>Question:
>	The reason the Jews are so avid in bellowing the Holocaust story
>is:
> 
>	A: So that the world will know the horrors of bigotry and malice?
> 
>	B: To instill guilt, justify Zionist policies and to extort
>money. 

    Didn't you offer this "exam" just a week or two ago, zeyde?  What, are
    you running out of new material?

                         daniel david mittleman 
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From dmittleman@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu Wed Aug  7 13:26:54 PDT 1996
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From: dmittleman@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu (Danny Mittleman)
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Subject: Re: gassing evidence bears interest
Date: 5 Aug 1996 22:22 MST
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In article <4u3gqb$f9d@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com>, mgiwer@ix.netcom.com (Matt  Giwer) writes...
>     What is interesting about the claims of mass extermination 
>by gassing is that all such claims were generated by the 
>Russians.  

    This is factually untrue.  There are many "claims" of mass
    extermination by gassing made by Nazi doctors and Nazi officers to
    Western historians.

    >It is also interesting that at no time did the 
>Russians present any forensic evidence of even small time gassing 
>much less mass gassing.  It is even more interesting that at no 
>time did the Russians provide any forensic evidence of even the 
>number of bodies required to support claims of mass gassing.  

    This is immaterial as such evidence has been presented by Western
    historians.

                         daniel david mittleman 
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From dmittleman@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu Wed Aug  7 17:21:08 PDT 1996
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From: dmittleman@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu (Danny Mittleman)
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Subject: Re: Another class action lawsuit
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In article <4u22n4$1ic4@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com>, EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) writes...
>>
>>>Note the false j*w name STEIN.
>>
>>    How on earth did you know that my grandfather skipped out of WWI 
>using
>>a forged passport with the false name of Stein?
> 
> 
>Simple, STEIN is NOT Jewish, rather it is stolen from the Germanic 
>peoples, most likely in the late 1400s.  No person of Judea or Israel has 
>that name. You would do well to trace your family roots. You will find 
>you are a slut, a Khazar, a Kulak at best. Your family had no true 
>religion. They are converts.

    You might even find that you are {gasp} German.

                         daniel david mittleman 
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                     Quoth the H*ber: "Never! More!"


From dmittleman@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu Sun Aug 25 09:51:54 PDT 1996
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From: dmittleman@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu (Danny Mittleman)
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Subject: Re: Number Of Children Murdered (Re: Evil Holocaust Revisionism)
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In article <4vp3ek$rqb@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com>, mgiwer@ix.netcom.com (Matt  Giwer) writes...
>On Sat, 24 Aug 1996 20:28:36 GMT, dkeren@world.std.com (Daniel Keren)
>wrote:
> 
>>I know that because I know Mr. McVay's correct phone
>>number, and also because I know who the number you're
>>posting belongs to.

    Ditto for me.  

>	Then you mean that interNIC needs to correct the phone number they
>carry for him.  

    You are missing at least one possbility here.  Maybe if you had a
    higher IQ you could figure out the complete set of possbilities.

>>But, again, even if this was Mr. McVay's correct phone
>>number you're posting, there's no justification and no
>>rational reason for doing that. It only proves that
>>you cannot make headway in this "debate", and therefore
>>resort to intimidation. You're admitting defeat every
>>time you post that information.

    This is a valid point.  Giwer's harrassment of McVay began simply to
    cover up the fact that Giwer had no on topic reqponses for the
    arguments he was making.  Typical schoolyard bully behavior.

>	I posted public information.  You appear to have a problem with
>posting public information.  Not even information dug up out of some
>generic telephone registry but official internet information.  

    No, you posted public information AND former public information which had
    been withdrawn.  You had reason to believe that Mr. McVay may not have
    wished to have the withdrawn information posted.

    I don't believe Mr. McVay has complained about your posting of the
    interNIC information as you look more stupid each time you post it.

>	And just what do you find intimidating about it?  My address and phone
>number are publically available on my website as they are from the
>secret telphone number that reveals such information.  Obviously I do
>not think public knowledge of that can be threatening to anyone.  

    You did not seem at all happy when your father's phone number in
    Cincinnati was published.  Was this threatening to him?  (By the way,
    any usenet surfer can get Matt's fathers phone number through the 411
    website by doing a search for "Matt Giwer".

>	Anyone with a listed phone number in any public place can not even
>pretend to be "intimidated" by the information being put in another
>public place.  

    So why did you get bent out of shape (or pretend to) when someone posted
    your father's phone number here?

>	But we are back to the original question, how do you know?  

    How does he know that the posted number is not Ken McVay's?  As he told
    you, Ken told him that it was not.  Ken also told him whose number it
    really was.  Are you not listening?  

                         daniel david mittleman 
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From dmittleman@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu Sun Aug 25 09:51:55 PDT 1996
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Subject: Re: Steven Spielberg awarded $1M federal grant
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In article <4vlcq9$5b1@news.tamu.edu>, frh@tamu.edu writes...
>prb@MCS.COM (Paul Botts) wrote:
> 
>>Perhaps God could, as a start, help you understand the first thing about
>>public funding and contract law.
> 
>>A federal "grant" as described above is in fact a *contract for
>>services*, not a gift of support as would be, say, a foundation "grant".
>>They are fundamentally, legally, different. A contract, such as
>>Spielberg was awarded, is where one party agrees to give another party
>>something in exchange for the second party doing or providing something.
>>In this case, the government has contracted with Spielberg to produce some
>>product(s) which, through the legally-required competitive grantmaking
>>process, it determined was worth $1,000,000.
> 
>>The story doesn't say, but from the wording it sounds as if this is a
>>"cost-reimbursable" contract. In that case, Spielberg's profit on it, by
>>law, is zero, zip, nada. He is reimbursed for direct expenses for work
>>under the contract, which must be as he proposed when seeking the
>>contract, and which must be "reasonable" as defined in the federal regs
>>(see in particular OMB circulars A-122 and A-110), and specifically
>>cannot include certain types of expenses ("entertainment" costs, for
>>example).
> 
>>None of that means necessarily that this is a *wise* contract from the
>>public agency's (or Spielberg's) point of view, or that it is in fact
>>the best use of the million dollars. It simply means that no matter what
>>the mediots or their readers think, it is not a "grant" in the sense
>>that most people understand that word. It is a *contract* in which the
>>government is paying for a service, exactly the same as a contract with
>>a janitorial service to sweep up at the Washington Monument.
> 
>I'm sorry that you're on holiday because you're full of *hit.  The
>contract to Spielberg is nothing more than the public paying for
>something that it shouldn't pay for.
> 
>Most people understand the word 'grant'.  It means 'free' money.
>That's all there is to it.
> 
>It is *not* the same as someone sweeping the Washington Monument.
>Your BS is the same as that found in the Waffle House since '92.

    Mr. Hipp,

    I can't but help notice that while Mr. Bott cited specific government
    regulations to support his assertion that Mr. Spielberg actually
    received a contract for services from the Federal government, your
    counter assertions contained no citational support (albeit multiple
    references to bodily excretions).  I must say, your counter argument
    did little to convince me that Mr. Bott was in error.  Sorry.

                         daniel david mittleman 
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From dmittleman@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu Sun Aug 25 09:51:56 PDT 1996
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From: dmittleman@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu (Danny Mittleman)
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Subject: Re: The evening mailbomb from gryn.org
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    Question: How do you know when someone is blowing smoke out their ass
    and doesn't really have a bonafide citation to back up their
    assertions?

    Answer: One tactic is to wave hands and fart as though one does have a
    citation without actually providing it.

    Example:

In article <4vpfab$bep@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com>, mgiwer@ix.netcom.com (Matt  Giwer) writes...
>On 25 Aug 1996 01:20:22 GMT, alec@gryn.org@      (Alec Grynspan) wrote:
>>In <4vmgs6$1ps@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com>, mgiwer@ix.netcom.com (Matt  Giwer) writes:

>>>	You have publically and privately admitted killing people under the
>>>guise of welwork.  That is an admission to murder.  Where do you think
>>>you were when the rules were handed out?
> 
>>You are delusional. I admitted no such thing!
> 
>	DejaNews, good sir.  I specifically asked you if I could talk about
>and you said I would not know the circumstances so it would not
>mattere what I said.  

    Notice that no actual citation was offered, but the air is a little
    warmer and smellier for the effort.

                         daniel david mittleman 
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From dmittleman@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu Sun Aug 25 09:51:57 PDT 1996
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From: dmittleman@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu (Danny Mittleman)
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Subject: Re: The Proof of Jewish Media Control
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kurtstele@aol.com (Kurt Stele) writes...
>Here's Yale's "refutation" of jewish media control:
> yawen@enter.net (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote:
>>   kurtstele@aol.com (Kurt Stele) writes:
> 
>>>  II) The Big three Newspapers -- The New York Times, the Washington, and
>>>  the Wall Street Journal (all three of which are jewish-owned and run).
> 
>>	They are not the three largest newspapers in the U.S.
> 
>those three jewish-owned paper are -merely- the three most influential
>newspapers in the U.S.  

    Ahem, Kurt baby...

    Has it ever occurred to you that maybe, just maybe, these are -- AS YOU
    SAY -- "the three most influential newspapers in the U.S." BECAUSE THEY
    ARE GOOD?

    No, that would be too easy, wouldn't it, Kurt baby.  That people would
    read and respect newspapers because they do a good job at providing
    news coverage.

>Is that the best you guys can do?

    Um, yeah.  It doesn't take much when you put forward such self
    conflicting arguments.

                         daniel david mittleman 
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From dmittleman@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu Sun Aug 25 09:51:58 PDT 1996
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From: dmittleman@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu (Danny Mittleman)
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Subject: Re: Just in case anyone missed it
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In article <4vjs8v$ib3@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com>, mgiwer@ix.netcom.com (Matt  Giwer) writes...
> 
>	The following was deleted from nic.ddn.mil some time between 17 July
>1996 and 19 August 1996.  However, as of 19 August 1996 the email
>address still worked.  It was originally captured on 17 July 1996.  It
>disppeared just prior to a 256 copy mailbomb from gryn.org saying that
>it was false information.  The owner of gryn.org, Alec Grynspan,
>openly brags about having been in the Mossad, i.e. Israeli
>intelligence.  
> 
>===
> 
>McVay, Ken (KM214)
>   1B Systems Management Limited
[address and phone deleted by danny]

>   kmcvay@oneb.wimsey.bc.CA
> 
>   Record last updated on 02-Apr-96.

    Seems to me that the repeated posting of personal contact information
    about an individual who does not wish that information in the public
    domain and who has previously been threatened would clearly constitute
    harrassment.  I presume that Kan and Yale are making this series of
    posts available to the FBI team currently investigating Giwer?

    I also presume that Giwer has taken no action regarding his alleged
    mailbombing.  He has proven himself ot be all whine and no action in
    the past.  

                         daniel david mittleman 
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From dmittleman@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu Mon Aug 26 07:22:12 PDT 1996
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From: dmittleman@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu (Danny Mittleman)
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Subject: Re: PRINT BACKGROUND DATA RE KEN OYVEY
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In article , acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca writes...
>Let all the world know about the background of Ken McVey,OyVey or 
>whatever his real name is.
> 
>Was he dismissed from the military for undesirable conduct?Was he a 
>pervert of some sort, or did he display cowardice, or what reason was he 
>let go?
> 
>Is it married, or is it a pervert?
> 
>Publish all the background data of this SOB,or OBC, or whatever he uses 
>after his so-called name?Who or what were his parents?
> 
>Let everyone know what is available, and keep on repbroadcasting all the 
>info, including his home address and phone numbers.

    Congratulations, Ken.  You must have landed some solid blows to the
    body of these people for them to want to come and attack you, rather
    than your posts.

                         daniel david mittleman 
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From dmittleman@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu Mon Aug 26 22:35:45 PDT 1996
Article: 60234 of alt.revisionism
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From: dmittleman@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu (Danny Mittleman)
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Subject: Re: Feigned ignorance
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In article <4vqjet$en3@sjx-ixn3.ix.netcom.com>, mgiwer@ix.netcom.com (Matt  Giwer) writes...
>	Why is it that when it comes to gassing personal statements and
>testimony are enough but when it comes to "jews control the media"
>physical evidence is required?  

    The troll's premise is wrong.  Personal statements and testimony are
    never enough to establish a detailed account of history.  Those
    personal statements and testimony must be interwoven with the archival
    and physical evidence to decidedly know what has taken place.

    Also, I don't believe that anyone here has asked for "physical
    evidence" regarding media control.  But several here have asked for
    some archival evidence and evidence that something more than a cursory
    analysis has taken place.

    I suspect this whole debate is well over the troll's head.

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From dmittleman@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu Tue Aug 27 07:31:42 PDT 1996
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In article <4vp2jn$rqb@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com>, mgiwer@ix.netcom.com (Matt  Giwer) writes...
> 
>>It is totally and completely clear that you're doing it 
>>only to put this person in danger. There's no other
>>reason whatsoever.
> 
>	What danger?  My phone number and address have been up for a long time
>and there has not been the slightest hint of danger even though
>holohuggers are known for violence.  

    Not the slightest hint?  So then you now acknowledge you were lying
    when you characterized the single contacts to your father and your son
    as harrassment?

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From dmittleman@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu Thu Aug 29 10:50:57 PDT 1996
Article: 60827 of alt.revisionism
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From: dmittleman@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu (Danny Mittleman)
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Subject: Re: INEVITABLE
Date: 29 Aug 1996 06:14 MST
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In article <322461d3.2416974@news.pacificnet.net>, tm@pacificnet.net (tom moran) writes...

>	The demise of the Holocaust story as fact is inevitable. It is on
>it's way to becoming the rout of the millennia. Nothing can hold it
>back. As sure as the tides come and go, the big lie is on the verge of
>global exposure.

    Nice thesis, zeyde.  Lets see how well you back it up...

>	Just a few years ago, only a few were aware and involved in
>exposing the truth. Now there are many. 

    Do you have any numbers to report to us?  Has anyone done any surveys
    to show how either public opinion or size of the denier movement is
    growing?  

    I didn't think so.  So then this is simply a hollow statement which
    does not support your thesis.

>	Like binary fission one person tells another and these in turn
>tell others. One non-believer becomes two, two becomes four, four
>becomes eight - one thousand becomes two thousand unto millions, and
>then the billions will come to believe in the truth, the Holocaust
>story is a lie.

    This is a statement of how you assert the process works.  Do you have
    any qualitative data to support your assertion that this process is
    taking place?  Agaoin, do you have any numbers?

    I didn't think so.  This is simply another hollow assertion which does
    not support your thesis.

>	The handle on the toilet has been pushed. Now the Holocaust story
>is spinning in the vortex.

    Colorful prose (your poo poo fascination seems to have been toilet
    trained), but your conclusion does not follow as you haveprovided zero
    evidence to support your thesis.  

    I, speaking for myself have to reject this alternative hypothesis.

    danny

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From dmittleman@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu Fri Aug 30 08:39:59 PDT 1996
Article: 60924 of alt.revisionism
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From: dmittleman@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu (Danny Mittleman)
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Subject: Re: Feigned ignorance
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kurtstele@aol.com (Kurt Stele) writes...
>klewis@awinc.com (Ken Lewis) wrote:
>>kurtstele@aol.com (Kurt Stele) wrote:
>>#Brian Harmon wrote:

>>#>As it is, you simply _insist_ that it is true,
>>#>and that all the media sources are in fact controlled
>>#>by jews.                                   

>>#I never said that Brian. I said the jews -dominate- the media, and
>>#therefore have a virtual monopoly on it.  I also said they use the 

>>Bzzzt. Wrong answer, Kurt. You did not use the word dominate in the
>>posts I read. You said control:

>Exactly. I said control. I meant control.  Yes, jews control the media. 
>That is my point. Thank you. You understand me then.  Congratulations. 

    Are you SURE you aren't Matt Giwer?  You certainly waffle like him.

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From dmittleman@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu Fri Aug 30 08:40:00 PDT 1996
Article: 60935 of alt.revisionism
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From: dmittleman@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu (Danny Mittleman)
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Subject: Re: defenders oif Keren
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In article <32261111.5F75@unb.ca>, Keith Morrison  writes...
>Matt Giwer wrote:
>> 
>>         You are all so stupid as to believe that spreadsheets have something
>> to do with wordprocessing.
>> 
>>         You are all ignorant and very stupid fools.
> 
>Obviously Giwer has never seen any recent incarnation of the big word processing
>and spreadsheet packages.

    Most of the recent work merging document processing applications has
    happened since Giwer was uncerimoniously retired from work due to his
    alleged drinking problems.  He may not have been sober long enough
    since to keep up with recent software developments.

>Troll-bait sold here.

    Bought some.

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From dmittleman@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu Fri Aug 30 08:40:01 PDT 1996
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In article <5042vo$ff2@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com>, mgiwer@ix.netcom.com (Matt  Giwer) writes...
>On Wed, 28 Aug 1996 14:19:33 -0400, Alec Grynspan 
>wrote:
> 
>>Matt Giwer wrote:
>>> 
>>>         You have read that information but you have no idea what you are
>>> talking about else you would konw that you have.  Alex G. has declared
>>> it has been posted.  Why did you miss it?
> 
>>URL please.
> 
>Fuck you.
> 
>I do not waste the time with idiot murderers for jewish intelligence
>agencies.
> 
>Screw you, murderer.  That is all you are and nothing better, a
>murderer as to told me you were.  
> 
>You ain't shit more than a Jewish murderer for a Jewish organization.
> 
>That is all we ever exepected from a Jew.  

    I take it then that you have no URL to post?

    I take it then that you are in the process of going over the deep end,
    as they say.   {big smiley}

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From dmittleman@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu Fri Aug 30 08:40:02 PDT 1996
Article: 60941 of alt.revisionism
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From: dmittleman@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu (Danny Mittleman)
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Subject: Re: defenders oif Keren
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In article <5042ld$ff2@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com>, mgiwer@ix.netcom.com (Matt  Giwer) writes...
>	You are all so stupid as to believe that spreadsheets have something
>to do with wordprocessing.  

    I don't believe that any of us said precisely this.  You are so stupid
    as to not understand what people write to you, apparently.

>	You are all ignorant and very stupid fools.  

    Yes, but we are all in good company.  It's lonely up there on that
    genius mount, isn't it ducky?

>	It is diffucult to imagine you fools can even find the big red switch
>and chew gum at the same time.

    I can't speak for my fellow fools who do research in computer-related
    fields, but I sure can't.

    So, now that you have insulted us all on a topic that has nothing to do
    with the Holocaust, are you ready to get back to your regular
    mis-interpretation of Holocaust documentation?

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From dmittleman@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu Fri Aug 30 08:40:03 PDT 1996
Article: 60951 of alt.revisionism
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From: dmittleman@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu (Danny Mittleman)
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Subject: Re: PRINT BACKGROUND DATA RE KEN OYVEY
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In article , karlpov@access5.digex.net (Charles R.L. Power) writes...
>acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca writes:
> 
>>Let all the world know about the background of Ken McVey,OyVey or 
>>whatever his real name is.
> 
>>Was he dismissed from the military for undesirable conduct?Was he a 
>>pervert of some sort, or did he display cowardice, or what reason was he 
>>let go?
> 
>>Is it married, or is it a pervert?
> 
>>Publish all the background data of this SOB,or OBC, or whatever he uses 
>>after his so-called name?Who or what were his parents?
> 
>>Let everyone know what is available, and keep on repbroadcasting all the 
>>info, including his home address and phone numbers.
> 
>This, from some cowardly sack of shit who won't even post under his
>real name?

    Hey, if your name was Grosvenom, you would find an alias too!

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From dmittleman@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu Sat Aug 31 10:04:25 PDT 1996
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In article <506iep$nvc@sjx-ixn4.ix.netcom.com>, mgiwer@ix.netcom.com (Matt  Giwer) writes...
>On 29 Aug 1996 16:01 MST, dmittleman@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu (Danny
>Mittleman) wrote:

>>    Most of the recent work merging document processing applications has
>>    happened since Giwer was uncerimoniously retired from work due to his
>>    alleged drinking problems.  He may not have been sober long enough
>>    since to keep up with recent software developments.
> 
>	Yes, you are an idiot and a deliberate liar to take this position.  

    Hmmm.  Are you arguing that the work done merging document processing
    and spreadsheets happened mostly before you were unceremoniously
    retured from work due to your alleged drinking problems?  Or are you
    arguing that in fact you are sober now for long enough periods of time
    to keep up with recent software developments?

    It's difficult to keep this clear amidst your insults.

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From dmittleman@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu Sat Aug 31 19:39:46 PDT 1996
Article: 61371 of alt.revisionism
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In article <3226edad.390461@news.pacificnet.net>, tm@pacificnet.net (tom moran) writes...
> 
>	For anyone who has witnessed the constant onslaught of the
>Holocaust story, in our medias and in books, it becomes apparent it is
>almost always the Jews who are the ones who bemoan the story and no
>one else.

    Medias, zeyde?  How many medias can you name?

    Almost always the Jews you say.  Ken McVay isn't Jewish.  Gord McFee
    isn't Jewish.  Marty Kelley isn't Jewish.  Bill Anderson isn't Jewish. 
    Jamie McCarthy isn't Jewish.  Now what was your point?

    Rest of the drivel snipped.  There wasn't enough valid in the first
    paragraph to keep reading.

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From dmittleman@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu Sat Aug 31 20:44:34 PDT 1996
Article: 61379 of alt.revisionism
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From: dmittleman@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu (Danny Mittleman)
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Subject: Re: Why are "revisionists" gutless jellyfish?
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In article <32283f32.739345@news.pacificnet.net>, tm@pacificnet.net (tom moran) writes...
>gmcfee@ibm.net (Gord McFee) wrote:
> 
>>Thank you, Mr. Moran.  I am glad that you agree with me that Skippy, Stele and
>>the rest are gutless jellyfish.
> 
>	Of course "McFee", you would have the same definition for any
>ficticious names that come out on the side of the Holocaust, I take
>it. Next time it happens, "McFee", I'll call your attention to it.

    I am aware of two who do so here.  I agree that it is undesirable to do
    so and wish they would choose to use their real names.

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