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I'm glad you're here, Mr. Mebesius - there are some questions
I've been wanting to ask you for some time, relating to
material you have posted to the "Stormfront" mailing list,
maintained by that ex-Klan Grand Dragon, neo-nazi ex-con,
Don Black. Perhaps you can clarify a few things....

Not too many months ago, I commented on the cowardice
exhibited by George Burdi, who had been convicted of assault
causing bodily harm after an incident during the 1993 Ottawa
riot which followed an appearance by Mr. Burdi's "band,"
RaHoWa.

The victim, a 110-pound female, had been kicked in her face
with a steel-toed boot, and her nose was broken.

In a Stormfront message of October 7, 1995, you made the
following comment about my remarks:

   "This wannabe Nazi hunter thinks that it is cowardly for 
   Heritage Front members to kick a loser-freak-misfit, 
   "anti-racist" troublemaker in the head.  Question: Does 
   anyone cry for the cockroach when the boot of a pissed-off 
   human being stomps on it?  

Since I have often displayed the quotation above during
seminars dealing with hate speech and racism, I thought
perhaps you might wish to clarify your position, so I don't
misrepresent it. You seem to suggest that anyone, male or
female, who is a "anti-racist troublemaker" should be
considered no more than a cockroach. Is that a correct
interpretation of your belief, Sir?

On October 12, you provided some insight into your feelings
about "white student unions:"

   "I don't know if it is a good idea for whites to form white 
   student unions  at universities and colleges.  My concern is 
   that it would make us appear to be like every other (crybaby) 
   group on campus which says it needs special treatment.  It 
   is usually the misfits, losers, and freaks--the fags, dykes, 
   chinks, ragheads, negroes, and left-wingers--who start these 
   groups."

I understand that someone is attempting to start up a
"European Culture" student club at Simon Fraser University,
where you apparently attend classes. Since using the label
"European Culture" as a tactic to disguise neo-nazi recruiting
has been previously employed here in Canada, I find that
interesting. It is, of course, quite possibly a harmless
exercise to form another student group - I don't have a
problem with that. It may be, however, a smokescreen for
another campus recruiting effort. 

Are you one of the "misfits, losers, and freaks - the fags,
dykes, chinks, ragheads, negroes, and left-wingers" who is
starting this group?
        
   "BUT, perhaps it is time for whites to rethink their rugged 
   individualism, and organize themselves.  The obvious, strategic, 
   benefit of such white student unions would be that white students, 
   who are exploring their instincts, and beginning to accept their 
   racialist feelings as natural, will not be isolated.  
 
   HOWEVER, such groups would be infiltrated by "anti-racists" and,   
   maybe, even certain government security agencies; and if members 
   of these student unions have any plans to work for the government 
   (police, military, or whatever) they will be RED FLAGGED.  I don't 
   know if it is better for us white university students to tattoo our 
   racialism on our foreheads, or if it is wiser for us to keep our 
   heads down--until, at least, we can secure a good job, perhaps in 
   a position of strategic importance.
  
   I don't know."

Tell us, Mr. Mebesius... given your earlier comment about
anti-racist "troublemakers" and "cockroaches," how you would
deal with "anti-racists" who may wish to join this "European
Culture" student group. Students at Simon Fraser University
would probably find your remarks of interest, as I know that
several have expressed concern to me about this group, and who
may be promoting it.

By the way - I read your article about the current shooting
war in Vancouver with interest, and wondered why you felt it
necessary to point out that some of the victims were "white?"
Anyone caught in such violence is a victim, sir, no matter
what colour they are, which leaves me wondering (although, in
all honesty, not much) about your real agenda here.

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Subject: Re: COLLECTIVE GUILT: ANOTHER PERNICIOUS LIBERAL CONCEPT
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In article <4bq9e7$jnu@morgoth.sfu.ca>, mebesius@sfu.ca wrote:

>Mr. Lopez makes a good case for rejecting the liberal guilt complex.
>However, he seems to be saying that such a collective guilt is applicable
>to Nazi Germany (re: holocaust).  Now this is bullshit.

I'm not certain I understand you here. Are you saying that the
German citizens who supported Hitler's power grab, and the
subsequent war, should not be held responsible?

>It is this type of thinking that makes perfectly normal white Christians
>apologize for something they had nothing to do with.  So "we" give 

What about "perfectly normal non-white Christians," Mr.
Mebesius?

And what sorts of things are these "perfectly normal" folks
apologizing for?

>pro-censorship Jewish organizations everything they ask for.  Never mind

Which "pro-censorship Jewish organizations" are you referring
to, Mr. Mebesius? All Jewish organizations, or a selected few?
Please name them, so we can have a basis for discussion.

>freedom of expression, or anything like that, if Jews are offended by  
>anything, the state is obligated to silence those bad people who offend
>the Jews.  What we are doing, in effect, is paying war reparations to
>a bunch of Jews (and victims of the week) who aren't victims, for crimes
>we didn't commit.  It's pathetic!

You are a Canadian, Mr. Mebesius, not a German. What "war
reparations" have you paid lately?

I'm glad you're here, Mr. Mebesius - there are some questions
I've been wanting to ask you for some time, relating to
material you have posted to the "Stormfront" mailing list,
maintained by that ex-Klan Grand Dragon, neo-nazi ex-con,
Don Black. Perhaps you can clarify a few things....

Not too many months ago, I commented on the cowardice
exhibited by George Burdi, the Canadian neo-Nazi Heritage
Front organizer, former "reverend" Eric Hawthorne, aka George
Hawthorne, who had been convicted of assault causing bodily harm 
after an incident during the 1993 Ottawa riot which followed an 
appearance by Mr. Burdi's "band," RaHoWa.

The victim, a 110-pound female, had been kicked in her face
with a steel-toed boot, and her nose was broken.

In a Stormfront message of October 7, 1995, you made the
following comment about my remarks:

   "This wannabe Nazi hunter thinks that it is cowardly for 
   Heritage Front members to kick a loser-freak-misfit, 
   "anti-racist" troublemaker in the head.  Question: Does 
   anyone cry for the cockroach when the boot of a pissed-off 
   human being stomps on it?  

Since I have often displayed the quotation above during
seminars dealing with hate speech and racism, I thought
perhaps you might wish to clarify your position, so I don't
misrepresent it. You seem to suggest that anyone, male or
female, who is a "anti-racist troublemaker" should be
considered no more than a cockroach. Is that a correct
interpretation of your belief, Sir?


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