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From ministry_of_truth@bc.sympatico.ca Sun Apr 12 13:16:19 EDT 1998
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From: mebesius 
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Subject: Easter.  Do you know what it means?
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"Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world" (John
1:29).

The Resurrected Christ is risen today, get down on your knees and
worship Him.  

He died for my sins, and He died for yours, thank Him, and worship Him.

Praise the Lord!  Praise Jesus!


From ministry_of_truth@bc.sympatico.ca Sun Apr 12 13:16:21 EDT 1998
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From: mebesius 
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Subject: Re: BC TEL URGED TO PULL PLUG ON RACISTS
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Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:

> That does indeed seem to be his position... much like Zundel's man
> Lemire, Mr. Mebesius also seems to have a problem with free speech...
> he's all for it where nazis and other assorted riff-raff are
> concerned, but dead set against it when advocacy groups are
> concerned...


Nice try asshole.  Bring in your friends, but it still don't help your
pathetic argument.  You and your B'nai Brith friends are taking a run at
freedom of speech.  I said, in no uncertain terms, that the Jews could
complain all they want, because that is all they are good for, and you
try to say I want to eliminate their freedom of speech?  Asshole!  You
know you are lying and that I want them to complain, bitch, and whine,
they only make normal, freedom-loving Canadians hate them.


> Can you spell "hypocrisy"?

No hypocrisy, I'm just a white man who ain't a slave to the Jews like
you.

> Of course, Mr. Mebesius is also on record as comparing an instance
> of a young woman who was kicked in the face by a Noble Aryan Hero
> (one George Burdi) twice her size (she had called the Noble Aryan
> Hero names) with a boot heel stepping on a "cockroach," so I
> guess we shouldn't be too surprised that he's not in favour
> of Jewish survival....


How many times do I have to tell you that I would never hit a woman?  Is
it because you didn't want to respond to my arguments that you bring up
this old shit?   

> Gotta love these "born-again Christians," eh?
> 
>

Better to be a born-again Christian than an ass-kissing Jew-lover.  BTW,
all Jews go to Hell.
Sorry, but that's the way it is.


From ministry_of_truth@bc.sympatico.ca Sun Apr 12 13:16:23 EDT 1998
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Subject: How do you become a lesbian?
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On South Park (the cartoon) they recommend that you lick carpet and chow
on box.  Of course, you could hang out with K.D. Lang, or Ellen, or
Jodie Foster.  But the best way to become a lesbian is to become a fat
bitch, blame men for your unhappiness, buy a dildo and a mirror, and
pick up some bull dyke who will fist-fuck you into lesbian mocha
heaven.  Moist?


From ministry_of_truth@bc.sympatico.ca Mon Apr 13 17:09:21 EDT 1998
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From: mebesius 
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Subject: Re: BC TEL URGED TO PULL PLUG ON RACISTS
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Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:

> That does indeed seem to be his position... much like Zundel's man
> Lemire, Mr. Mebesius also seems to have a problem with free speech...
> he's all for it where nazis and other assorted riff-raff are
> concerned, but dead set against it when advocacy groups are
> concerned...


Nice try asshole.  Bring in your friends, but it still don't help your
pathetic argument.  You and your B'nai Brith friends are taking a run at
freedom of speech.  I said, in no uncertain terms, that the Jews could
complain all they want, because that is all they are good for, and you
try to say I want to eliminate their freedom of speech?  Asshole!  You
know you are lying and that I want them to complain, bitch, and whine,
they only make normal, freedom-loving Canadians hate them.


> Can you spell "hypocrisy"?

No hypocrisy, I'm just a white man who ain't a slave to the Jews like
you.

> Of course, Mr. Mebesius is also on record as comparing an instance
> of a young woman who was kicked in the face by a Noble Aryan Hero
> (one George Burdi) twice her size (she had called the Noble Aryan
> Hero names) with a boot heel stepping on a "cockroach," so I
> guess we shouldn't be too surprised that he's not in favour
> of Jewish survival....


How many times do I have to tell you that I would never hit a woman?  Is
it because you didn't want to respond to my arguments that you bring up
this old shit?   

> Gotta love these "born-again Christians," eh?
> 
>

Better to be a born-again Christian than an ass-kissing Jew-lover.  BTW,
all Jews go to Hell.
Sorry, but that's the way it is.


From ministry_of_truth@bc.sympatico.ca Mon Apr 13 17:09:49 EDT 1998
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Subject: You can't trust Ken McVay.
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I thought I could.  I gave him privy information, I told him things I
shouldn't, I thought he supported freedom of speech, and it turns out he
is just an errand-boy for the Jews.  You would think he would
disassociate himself from B'nai Brith and the Canadian Jewish Congress
and Alan Dutton, when they try to get BC Tel to cancel Fairview
Technology's Internet service, but, instead, he tries to justify their
censorship.  

Ken, I told people there was hope for you (I respected you).  But you
have chosen your side.  I can't protect you any longer.  Keep your head
up.


From ministry_of_truth@bc.sympatico.ca Mon Apr 13 17:10:02 EDT 1998
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Subject: Re: BC TEL URGED TO PULL PLUG ON RACISTS
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Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:

> That does indeed seem to be his position... much like Zundel's man
> Lemire, Mr. Mebesius also seems to have a problem with free speech...
> he's all for it where nazis and other assorted riff-raff are
> concerned, but dead set against it when advocacy groups are
> concerned...


Nice try asshole.  Bring in your friends, but it still don't help your
pathetic argument.  You and your B'nai Brith friends are taking a run at
freedom of speech.  I said, in no uncertain terms, that the Jews could
complain all they want, because that is all they are good for, and you
try to say I want to eliminate their freedom of speech?  Asshole!  You
know you are lying and that I want them to complain, bitch, and whine,
they only make normal, freedom-loving Canadians hate them.


> Can you spell "hypocrisy"?

No hypocrisy, I'm just a white man who ain't a slave to the Jews like
you.

> Of course, Mr. Mebesius is also on record as comparing an instance
> of a young woman who was kicked in the face by a Noble Aryan Hero
> (one George Burdi) twice her size (she had called the Noble Aryan
> Hero names) with a boot heel stepping on a "cockroach," so I
> guess we shouldn't be too surprised that he's not in favour
> of Jewish survival....


How many times do I have to tell you that I would never hit a woman?  Is
it because you didn't want to respond to my arguments that you bring up
this old shit?   

> Gotta love these "born-again Christians," eh?
> 
>

Better to be a born-again Christian than an ass-kissing Jew-lover.  BTW,
all Jews go to Hell.
Sorry, but that's the way it is.


From ministry_of_truth@bc.sympatico.ca Fri Apr 17 05:09:40 EDT 1998
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Subject: "The International Jewish Conspiracy"
Date: 17 Apr 1998 03:34:27 GMT
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I was thinking of Henry Ford's warnings about the International Jew, and I
remembered a funny thing.   

I was taking a post-Soviet Russian politics class, which just happened to
be taught by a Jew, Lenny Cohen (who was also supposed to be an expert on
the former Yugoslavia, the same former Yugoslavia he did not think would
disintegrate), and one day, a classmate of mine did something which shocked
the professor and the entire class, and made me laugh out loud.  

She was supposed to be giving a brief presentation of her term paper, and
since she was the teacher's pet, and the teacher was a Jew, she chose as
her research project "Jews in Russia," which was a paper which of course
vilified white Russians for their treatment of Jews.  

However, as she started to outline her paper to Mr. Cohen and the class, he
interrupted her, and asked her what the title of her paper was, she had
forgotten to tell us, since we all knew her research topic.

So, she gathered herself, a little embarrassed about being stopped in the
middle of her introduction, and with a straight face, said, "My paper is
about 'The International Jewish Conspiracy'"--then there was a
silence...and everyone looked at the teacher and at her, she still had a
straight face, and he was in utter fucking shock  (I had never seen a more
stupid looking, terrified Jew in my life), and then he said, "No, really,
is that your essay?" and I laughed out loud and she smirked and the class
breathed a sigh of relief.   

They couldn't believe it, and neither could he.  And I realized that even
teachers' pets have a sense of humour.



From ministry_of_truth@bc.sympatico.ca Sat Apr 18 15:44:14 EDT 1998
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Subject: Kill the turtle by a thousand cuts
Date: 18 Apr 1998 05:19:15 GMT
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It appears there are Chinese people who like fresh, live turtle, and they
satisfy this desire by slicing pieces off a live turtle and eating it. 
However, for the Chinese merchants of this disgusting cultural practice, it
is simple economics: "their customers want fresh food.  When they can see
the animals living and breathing, they know they're not buying spoiled
meat" (San Francisco Examiner, March 14, 1998).

"a large soft-shelled turtle sitting on a bed of ice outside a Vancouver
seafood market.  Not only has its shell been torn away, but about a pound
of meat has been sliced from its back.   The turtle is very much alive--and
waiting for the next customer....They slice a piece of meat off and then
put the animal back, wriggling" (Vancouver Province, March 22, 1998).

Celebrate the diversity of multiculturalism!




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Daniel Swan wrote:
> 
> mebesius (ministry_of_truth@bc.sympatico.ca) wrote:
> 
> : Celebrate the diversity of multiculturalism!
> 
> Mebesius, No one culture has a monopoly on barbarism.
> 
> That having been said, I'm outraged at that article.  If I saw
> someone do that to a turtle, I'd do the same to them.

Sure, and most Canadians would agree with you, but all cultures are not
equal, nor are all people.


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Subject: Re: equal rights as pertain to public breast exposure
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 17:21:08 -0700
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Anne Hansen wrote:
> 
> Anyone who is interested in the issue of equal rights as pertains
> to public breast exposure should check out the following:
> 
> Canada
	http://www.canada.gov./members/svendrobinson
	
	http://www.cbc.faceoff/judyrebick

(Ever notice how the "women" who want to show off their breasts are the
kind of women whose breasts you don't want to see, you know, the kind
public decency laws were made for.  For example, we have this thing in
Maple Ridge, B.C., and she likes to go to public pools and take off her
top, and scares everyone out of the pool.   She is so witch-like ugly,
the little kids have to go to post-trauma counselling, just because she
feels the need to expose her dried up, shrivelled little titties.  When
the women who want to run around half-naked start looking like Gillian
Anderson, Jenny McCarthy, and Anna Nicole Smith, that is when I will
support their best assets, er, I mean, efforts.)  


>


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Mark Mushet  wrote in article
<6h0da0$2mp@thoth.portal.ca>...
>
> Your quite right Quinn Mebesius. As a result of your post I've decided
> to do the following to look and act more like you:
> 
> 1. I'll lose an inch in height and gain 25 pounds of fat.

So you are 6' 3" eh?  Is that with or without your heels?


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Mark Mushet wrote:
> 
> mebesius  wrote:
> 
> >Now, either I'm not a very good racist, or the Klan doesn't exist in Western Canada.
> >I suspect the Klan only exists in people's heads and under their beds.
> 
> Ever heard of Bryan Taylor? Read the Maple Ridge-Pitt Meadows Times
> from Aug 10th, 1997.

The "story" was also in the Vancouver Province and on TV.  And, no, I
had not heard of Mr. Taylor until the story "broke" and it was
"revealed" that he was the leader of the "Pacific Realm."  The Klan (the
real thing) doesn't exist in B.C., and the fact that one guy (and maybe
a few of his friends) was "exposed" by Nazi-hunter wannabe and Communist
party member Alan Dutton, doesn't prove anything.  Ask anyone in the
"movement" and they will tell you that the Klan doesn't exist in B.C.. 
Go south to Washington state or Idaho, and you'll find a couple.  But
most people in the "movement" don't belong to organized groups, because
these groups are almost always infested with informants and undercover
agents.  It's called leaderless resistance, and those who want to "do
something" do it alone, or within a small cell.


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Subject: Sunera Thobani, ungrateful feminist immigrant
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I was thinking about that recent Chinese dissident, Wang Dong Ding, who
was allowed to leave China (because of his health problems) and live on
the health care and welfare of U.S. taxpayers (can you believe there is
a refugee we don't get?)--and I was thinking, how is the situation in
China ever going to improve if the dissidents leave the country?  You
would think that these are the people who should stay, and fight, and
change things.  Yet they fuck off.

But what is worse is when they leave a shithole like China or India, and
then complain about their new adopted country.  

For instance, take the case of Indian feminist-troublemaker Sunera
Thobani.  She came to Canada on a student visa, and then decided she
wanted to stay, this being the land of milk and honey and government
handouts, why wouldn't she? 
 
Next, instead of getting down on her knees and thanking us for letting
her in the country, she becomes the head witch at NACSOW, a
socialist-feminist-lesbian organization, intent on turning the country
upside down.  And then of course she complains about how racist and
sexist Canada is.  

And now as a women's studies "professor" at SFU, she makes her living
complaining about racist, sexist Canada.

What the fuck is wrong with this picture?

If Canada is so racist, why did we let her into the damn country?  If
Canada was racist, we would have thrown her off a 12-storey building and
told her to fly home.   But why did she want to come here?  And why did
she want to stay, if she discovered that we were a racist country?

If Canada is so sexist, again, why did she come here?  She could have
stayed in India, where they know how to treat women like her.  Hell,
they'd set her on fire for some of the things she says.

But, more importantly, if she is so concerned about women of colour, and
racism, and sexism, and every other ism, why didn't she stay in India
and fix that fucking country?  And if Canada is so bad, why doesn't she
leave?   Why doesn't she leave?   You know why?  'Cause she don't have
the balls, and when a country is truly fucked up, like India is, she
only thinks about protecting her own hairy ass.


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Mark Mushet wrote:
> 
> cj224@torfree.net (Jason Arron Black) wrote:
> 
> >The Klan doesn't exist in Canada.
> 
> Not *per se* perhaps but many of the KKK's goals are being pursued in
> other forms. 

Tell me, does the Jewish Defense League exist in Canada?  Or, are its
goals (and the goals of Zionism) being pursued in other forms and other
groups?


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Brian Hauk wrote:
> 
> Chilean Immigrants Fight Deportation In Canada
> *********************************************************************
> from the Militant, vol.62/no.15                        April 20, 1998
> 

Ship them back home!  We don't need any more bogus refugees.  Get the
airline company, which brought them here, to take them back--and if the
airline won't, throw them in the ocean and tell them to swim.  Or maybe
they should take their last welfare cheques and buy a rubber dinghy with
the Cubans, and then they can drop off their Cuban buddies on the way
home.  Hey, wait a minute, since the Cubans wanted out of Cuba, because
it was Communist, and since the Chileans wanted out Chile, because it
wasn't, perhaps we should send the Cubans to Chile, and the Chileans to
Cuba.  Ya, that's it!


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Yes, today is the evil one's birthday, Der Fuhrer, Satan, God, Adolf
Hitler.  

Have a good German beer and celebrate his birthday.  (For those of you who
hate him, you can celebrate on the 30th, the anniversary of his death.)  

BTW, Kenneth, I noticed that on your Nizkor website, "Dedicated to the
nearly twelve million victims ruthlessly destroyed by Adolf Hitler and his
Nazi regime," if you click on the "twelve million" you go to a  page for
the "Five Million Forgotten."  

6 million Jews + 5 million forgotten = eleven million (1 million already
lost).  

Indeed, the article starts by saying "of the 11 million human (sic) killed
during the Holocaust..."   So, what happened to 1 million of the promised
12?

Now, I have never denied the Hollywood version of the 6 million Jews killed
during the Nazi holocaust--but how many Jews were within Hitler's reach
before the war, during the war, and how many were left after the 6 million
were exterminated?  And what was the world population of Jews before,
during, and after?  Do the figures add up?




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BC wrote:
> 
> 5 members of the skinhead group 'White Power' have been arrested
> tonight for the murder of a Sikh Temple security guard.
>  The murder took place following a drinking party by the same group.

Stupid, stupid, stupid.  I can't believe these kids would ruin their
lives by killing an old man.  Unbelievable.  All they succeeded in doing
is giving people like Alan Dutton ammunition for censorship of the
Internet and phone hotlines--and legitimate protest, advocacy, and
dissent will get caught in the net. 

Dutton was already on the TV saying we need stronger "hate" laws (even
though police forces don't use the existing hate laws).  And the media
and Dutton are already blaming others by guilt by association, saying
the goofs were linked to Aryan Nations, Northern Hammerskins, and the
Heritage Front.  

How were they caught?  There was a reward offered for the arrest of
those responsible for the murder, and chances are someone in the
movement turned them in.   

Stupid, stupid, stupid.


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kmcvay@nizkor.org wrote in article <6ht2js$8mk$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
> William Grosvenor as Coward:
> http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/grosvenor-william/make-my-year.html
> William Grosvenor as Felon:
> http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/grosvenor-william/gruber.html
> William Grosvenor as Liar:
> http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/grosvenor-william/gruber-10q.html
> 
> This is the situation, Mr. Grosvenor:
> 
> 300 Punishment of libel known to be false
> 
> 300. Every one who publishes a defamatory libel that he knows is false is
> guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not
> exceeding five years.
> 
> R.S., c. C-34, s. 264.
> 
> 301 Punishment for defamatory libel
> 
> 301. Every one who publishes a defamatory libel is guilty of an
indictable
> offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years.
> 
> Have a nice day, Mr. Grosvenor.
> 


Ken, have you ever told Mr. Grosvenor to stop?  And who knows, maybe he
thinks what he is saying is true.  



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kmcvay@nizkor.org wrote in article <6ht2js$8mk$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
> William Grosvenor as Coward:
> http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/grosvenor-william/make-my-year.html
> William Grosvenor as Felon:
> http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/grosvenor-william/gruber.html
> William Grosvenor as Liar:
> http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/grosvenor-william/gruber-10q.html
> 
> This is the situation, Mr. Grosvenor:
> 
> 300 Punishment of libel known to be false
> 
> 300. Every one who publishes a defamatory libel that he knows is false is
> guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not
> exceeding five years.
> 
> R.S., c. C-34, s. 264.
> 
> 301 Punishment for defamatory libel
> 
> 301. Every one who publishes a defamatory libel is guilty of an
indictable
> offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years.
> 
> Have a nice day, Mr. Grosvenor.
> 


Ken, have you ever told Mr. Grosvenor to stop?  And who knows, maybe he
thinks what he is saying is true.  



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kmcvay@nizkor.org wrote in article <6ht2js$8mk$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
> William Grosvenor as Coward:
> http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/grosvenor-william/make-my-year.html
> William Grosvenor as Felon:
> http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/grosvenor-william/gruber.html
> William Grosvenor as Liar:
> http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/grosvenor-william/gruber-10q.html
> 
> This is the situation, Mr. Grosvenor:
> 
> 300 Punishment of libel known to be false
> 
> 300. Every one who publishes a defamatory libel that he knows is false is
> guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not
> exceeding five years.
> 
> R.S., c. C-34, s. 264.
> 
> 301 Punishment for defamatory libel
> 
> 301. Every one who publishes a defamatory libel is guilty of an
indictable
> offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years.
> 
> Have a nice day, Mr. Grosvenor.
> 


Ken, have you ever told Mr. Grosvenor to stop?  And who knows, maybe he
thinks what he is saying is true.  



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This message is for all of you who have questioned my Christianity, and any
others who might give a shit.

I no longer profess to be a Christian.  I wasn't very good at it, it was no
fun, and it just wasn't in my nature.  

I refuse to love those who don't deserve it.

And I refuse to deny myself pleasure or pain.

Hail Freedom!


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Jason Arron Black wrote:
> 
> April 25 1998
> Vancouver Sun
> 
> Music, clubs and violence draw neo-Nazis together
> 
> The arrest of skinheads for a murder draws attention to the
> club scene, where many racists try to draw support.
> 
> Kim Bolan and Lindsay Kines Vancouver Sun
> 
> It's midnight in Surrey, and outside the Ozone Nightclub

Hey, got some Hollywood news for you.  In October 1995, my wife (then
girlfriend) and her friends went to the Ozone for her stag, and guess
who she saw partying with the skinheads at the pool tables?  Johnny
Depp!  No shit.  He was in town, and my wife said he looked like he was
having a great time drinking beer and smoking with the skinheads.  Maybe
he didn't know they were the racist kind, or maybe he did.   Of course,
people who go to the Ozone know that the white folks tend to hang out in
one part of the club, and the blacks and Sikhs in another.


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Jason Arron Black wrote:
> 
> April 25 1998
> Vancouver Sun
> 
> Music, clubs and violence draw neo-Nazis together
> 
> The arrest of skinheads for a murder draws attention to the
> club scene, where many racists try to draw support.
> 
> Kim Bolan and Lindsay Kines Vancouver Sun
> 
> It's midnight in Surrey, and outside the Ozone Nightclub

Hey, got some Hollywood news for you.  In October 1995, my wife (then
girlfriend) and her friends went to the Ozone for her stag, and guess
who she saw partying with the skinheads at the pool tables?  Johnny
Depp!  No shit.  He was in town, and my wife said he looked like he was
having a great time drinking beer and smoking with the skinheads.  Maybe
he didn't know they were the racist kind, or maybe he did.   Of course,
people who go to the Ozone know that the white folks tend to hang out in
one part of the club, and the blacks and Sikhs in another.


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THOMAS LAU wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 27 Apr 1998, D.Hu wrote:
> 
> I don't see how your follow up is relevant to what I said about racism.
> Perhaps you have missed my point - no affirmative action, 


Affirmative action is racism.  And racism begets racism.


confrontation or
> even anti-hate legislation can stop racism as racial discriminatory ideas
> are mostly taught at home by parents and relatives. Racism will only
> disappear ultimately through intermarriage.
> 

Who's going to make me marry some monkey, or Chink, or raghead?


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THOMAS LAU wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 27 Apr 1998, D.Hu wrote:
> 
> I don't see how your follow up is relevant to what I said about racism.
> Perhaps you have missed my point - no affirmative action, 


Affirmative action is racism.  And racism begets racism.


confrontation or
> even anti-hate legislation can stop racism as racial discriminatory ideas
> are mostly taught at home by parents and relatives. Racism will only
> disappear ultimately through intermarriage.
> 

Who's going to make me marry some monkey, or Chink, or raghead?


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SFB wrote:
> 
> >mebesius  wrote:
>
> >Who's going to make me marry some monkey, or Chink, or raghead?
> 
> No One will make you do anything you do not want to do. Unless you
> commit a crime,  Or some monkey finds you and wants you to kiss his
> feet  and eat dirt.
>  As for Ragheads, only the males wear turbans.

No, I've seen some females of this species also wearing rags on their
heads.

> East Indians have a different culture too. I wonder if a non-east
> indian person marries an east Indian girl, does the person still get a
> Dowry?

Answer: No.


In fact, she is lucky if her family doesn't disown her or set her on
fire.

A few years ago in Surrey, a Sikh father tried to run over his daughter
with his car, because she was involved in a "love relationship."


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SFB wrote:
> 
> >mebesius  wrote:
>
> >Who's going to make me marry some monkey, or Chink, or raghead?
> 
> No One will make you do anything you do not want to do. Unless you
> commit a crime,  Or some monkey finds you and wants you to kiss his
> feet  and eat dirt.
>  As for Ragheads, only the males wear turbans.

No, I've seen some females of this species also wearing rags on their
heads.

> East Indians have a different culture too. I wonder if a non-east
> indian person marries an east Indian girl, does the person still get a
> Dowry?

Answer: No.


In fact, she is lucky if her family doesn't disown her or set her on
fire.

A few years ago in Surrey, a Sikh father tried to run over his daughter
with his car, because she was involved in a "love relationship."



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