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From: p_stone@alchemy.co.nz (Ourobouros)
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Subject: Judd versus Heyerdahl
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Mr Judd has been evading the issue on whether Heyerdahl is correct or not.
The strong response that no Anthrolopologist or Historian backs up Thor
Heyerdahl has long since been destroyed as Bengt Danielsson, an
anthropologist has given credit to Thor (see "Love in the South Seas").

However the ante has been increased.  Three recent books have been
published that would back up Thor Heyerdahl's ideas.  They are: 

Lost Cities of Ancient Lemuria and the Pacific.
Song of the Stone.
Fingerprints of the Gods.

Written by historians and archeologists.  Also of recent, a stone wall
has been discovered in one of NZ's forests, reputed to be before the
Maori, and roughly 2,000 years old.  It has become a tourist attraction.
Not to mention that they have discovered that the Maori rat dwelt in NZ 
before the Maori arrived here -- the earliest date for the Maori arrival 
is around 1000 A.D.  Though I've been told the accepted date is closer to
1300 A.D.  Despite their claims, they're not indigenous.

Peeling back a few years, a Professor of Zoology, Barry Fell made waves in 
the civilizing of the Amerikas and the (South) Pacific by decendents of 
whites.  There is also supposed to be an Australian who has done extensive 
work on the subject as well.  Two Ptolemy coins have been discovered in 
NZ, and a (bronze) viking helmet in New Guinea.  He has also been credited 
with discovering a Step Pyramid in the Gympie area, as well as various 
stone statures of Egyptian and Phoenician Gods and reliefs around the 
Hawkesbury river (in Australia).

Anyway, whether they be right or wrong they should prove to be food for 
thought.  Perhaps the dogmatic thought of migration as taught by Mr Judd
and Co. should be reviewed.  Afterall, the Polynesians were (before the
European arrival) supposed to consist of the tri-mix of Asian, Melanesian, 
and White.  The White element has to come from somewhere. 

Ourobouros.






From p_stone@alchemy.co.nz Thu May 23 00:12:31 PDT 1996
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From: p_stone@alchemy.co.nz (Ourobouros)
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Subject: Re: racial supremacists need to get a life
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In article <4nj1qo$d3p@aphex.direct.ca>, patrickc@Direct.CA (Cthulhu) says:

>And I believe Mary Shelly had a few things to say about the main concept 
>of racism, which is judging people by appearances.

Assumption 1:  That Mary Shelly is Mary Shelley, the author of 
Frankenstein.

Assumption 2:  That you know the aforementioned individual hated Jews.

It would seem she had a good perception of Jewry.  FrankenSTEIN makes a
monster out of a multitude of bodies (MULTICULTURALISM).  The monster runs
amok and is unable to be controlled by his master (TODAY'S SOCIETY).  It
dies in the wastelands alongside his master (the eventual conclusion of
multiculturalism, as so many previous civilisations have witnessed).

I could of course be reading too much into it, but Shelley did not like 
Jews.  Perhaps she penned to paper her thoughts about Zionism.  It should
be pointed out that allegories were more prevalent in yesteryear than they 
are today.

Ourobouros.


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From: p_stone@alchemy.co.nz (Ourobouros)
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Subject: Re: racial supremacists need to get a life
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In article , s.judd@waikato.ac.nz (Stephen Judd) says:
>
>In article <4nlhek$ju8@newsource.ihug.co.nz>, p_stone@alchemy.co.nz
>(Ourobouros) wrote:
>
>> In article <4nj1qo$d3p@aphex.direct.ca>, patrickc@Direct.CA (Cthulhu) says:
>> 
>> >And I believe Mary Shelly had a few things to say about the main concept 
>> >of racism, which is judging people by appearances.
>> 
>> Assumption 1:  That Mary Shelly is Mary Shelley, the author of 
>> Frankenstein.
>> 
>> Assumption 2:  That you know the aforementioned individual hated Jews.
>> 
>> It would seem she had a good perception of Jewry.  FrankenSTEIN makes a
>
>Ahh, the "All names ending in Stein are Jewish" fallacy.
>
>Victor F was a German of course, if you read the book.
>

Yes Baron Frankenstein was/is German.  However I have not asserted that 
all names ending in Stein are Jewish.

>> monster out of a multitude of bodies (MULTICULTURALISM).  The monster runs
>> amok and is unable to be controlled by his master (TODAY'S SOCIETY).
>
>The monster is treated sympathetically, is much abused by his master, and
>eventually goes mad as a result of his treatment.
>
It still does not take away the allegory.  

You could say the same of Zionism today.  There have been a number of
authors that have stated the nations are going mad because of the remedies
given, for example, the book you are prejudiced against by Scott.
 
>> I could of course be reading too much into it,
>
>!
>
Until I complete my research into Mary Shelley it would be foolish to 
state that this was indeed the motivation behind the story.

I've also done a rough sketch with Werewolves...initially the myths 
started around madmen who had a weakness for silver.  Jews are known for
their madness (genetic) and their greed (silver)

>> but Shelley did not like 
>> Jews.
>
>Proof?
>
A biography on Shelley would suffice.  She was brought up to hate Jews. It
could be argued I suppose that she did not keep up such thoughts, but 
unless contrary evidence is brought to the fore, I'd imagine that she kept
her hatred of Jews to her dying day.

>> Perhaps she penned to paper her thoughts about Zionism.
>
>Which did not exist when Mary Shelley (Wollestonecraft) wrote.
>
Once more you show ineptness at grasping concepts.

>> be pointed out that allegories were more prevalent in yesteryear than they 
>> are today.
>
>Considering that Frankenstein was written in great haste, as part of a
>competition between party-goers, this seems most unlikely.
>
Actually it would make it all the more likely to include allegories.  You
could take a course in popular culture to prove it for yourself.  Adding
allegories into a story especially done on the fly would be a sure sign of
pride and brilliance.
 
Often it is a historian's job to deduce the meaning behind allegories.
Sometimes they miss the point altogether as they have become quite removed
>from  them, especially due to political correctness -- a lot of the
allegories were gender related.  For example, describing an old man in a
story or painting could actually be referring to a river instead, a woman
could actually be a town and so forth.

Ourobouros.





From p_stone@alchemy.co.nz Thu May 23 00:12:44 PDT 1996
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From: p_stone@alchemy.co.nz (Ourobouros)
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Subject: Re: Frankenstein as allegory (was: racial supremacists need to get a life)
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In article <4nop43$9n3@freenet-news.carleton.ca>, bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) says:
>
>Ourobouros (p_stone@alchemy.co.nz) writes:

[snip]

[Mary Shelley, author of Frankenstein]

>> It would seem she had a good perception of Jewry.  FrankenSTEIN makes a
>> monster out of a multitude of bodies (MULTICULTURALISM).  The monster runs
>> amok and is unable to be controlled by his master (TODAY'S SOCIETY).  It
>> dies in the wastelands alongside his master (the eventual conclusion of
>> multiculturalism, as so many previous civilisations have witnessed).
>
>Interesting analysis.  Would you say that Dr. Frankenstein was an almost
>perfect representation of the modern liberal, with his neurotic need to
>"show" everyone that he's right?
>
Quite possibly.  Afterall, liberals seem to want to change everything for
the worse no matter the consequence.  The Baron of course was quite mad
but he pretended to be sane, just like liberals today.

>> I could of course be reading too much into it, but Shelley did not like 
>> Jews. 
>
>So, that means that we can expect a smear-campaign directed at Mary
>Shelley to be geared up any time now.  Or perhaps the homos will now claim
>that she was really a closeted dyke.
>
Ha ha.  

The queers will have to beat the Negroes first.  I'm sure Nelson Mendela
will write another autobiography which will include more famous people 
being Negro.  He did afterall assert that the pure Greek, Cleopatra, was 
an "African Goddess."

Maybe we will also see a charge from the Chinks to claiming famous 
personalities as well...

Ourobouros.


From p_stone@alchemy.co.nz Sat May 25 01:47:55 PDT 1996
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From: p_stone@alchemy.co.nz (Ourobouros)
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Subject: India & Egypt again (plus Sumeria and a few others)
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This is part of the preface to the book by Professor Waddell, Egyptian 
Civilization its Sumerian Origin & real chronology & Sumerian Origin of 
Egyptian Hieroglyphs, 1925, p.ix,x.

"The unity as regards type and source of the ancient civilizations of 
Sumerian Mesopotamia, India and Egypt is in keeping with the physique of 
the ruling people in all three countries, which is shown by their 
portraits, sculptures and skeletal remains to have been of the 
long-headed, fair, grey or blue-eyed type recognized by moderns as marking 
the Aryan section of the Caucasian race.
	"The "Caucasian" type of the early Sumerian skeletal remains 
exhumed from the graves at Ur has been duly attested anthropologically by 
Sir Arthur Keith; and the same type is also found in the tombs and 
portraits of the early dynastic ruling race in Egypt, apart from the 
evidence of their positively established Aryan genealogies.
	"Unfortunately however, the terminology for this racial type, to 
which the Sumerians belong as well as the Early Aryans, classic Greeks and 
Romans and many of the modern people of Europe, is in a very confused 
state through anthropologists including "Mediterraneans" amongst the 
"Caucasians," and using both terms ambiguously.  "Mediterranean Race" is 
at present used to include two totally distinct racial types, namely the 
narrow-browed dark long-heads, the type of the Iberian, S. Italian, 
Corsican and Aegean aborigines, i.e. the Mediterranean Race proper; and 
secondly the broad-browed fairer long-heads comprising the classic Greeks 
and Romans, Achaians, Ionians, Phoenicians, Berbers and Hamites on the 
south coast of the Mediterranean, whose head-forms are essentially of the 
type of the Sumerians, Indo-Aryans (and thus inferentially of the Early 
Aryans) and the type of the Goths, Anglo-Saxons and Nordics, and also as 
we shall find of Menes and his dynasty and his ancestral Pharoahs who 
brought civilization into Egypt.  In the absence of any better name for 
the broad-browed long-headed type, I have called it "Aryan," after its 
most characteristic group.  In any case, the term "Nordic Race" is quite 
inapplicable as a synonym for "Aryan race." as the Norse are only a late 
specialized branch of one section of the Aryans."  

The whole book is about drawing all three regions together.  The preface
is simply the telling the reader a brief outline of the content in the
book.  

For those who are automatically prejudiced against Waddell, his works in
the Sumerian language are still used by (legitimate) scholars today. 

Ourobouros.



From p_stone@alchemy.co.nz Sun May 26 15:30:26 PDT 1996
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From: p_stone@alchemy.co.nz (Ourobouros)
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Subject: A slip by a NZ Prime-Minister?
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A little bit of a background: 1996 is election year.

Cited in the NZ Herald 25 May 1996.

The NZ Prime Minister, Jim Bolger has stated that current forecasts 
estimate that the net government debt would be nil by June 1997.  He then
made an interesting comment that we would then no longer be "beholden to
any international banker."  One of the things admitted was that being 
beholden to an international banker meant a "lack of soveignity" to a 
nation, in this case New Zealand.

Curious.  Would a liberal please explain to me how a government being in 
debt doesn't make that government an international banker's lackey?

If this is not feasible, perhaps you'd be comforted to know that the 
majority of international bankers are Jews/Zionists.  Do I need to go
further?

Ourobouros.





From p_stone@alchemy.co.nz Tue May 28 07:24:45 PDT 1996
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From: p_stone@alchemy.co.nz (Ourobouros)
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Subject: Proposed new weddings in multi-cultural states
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Love in South Seas, by B. Danielsson.

p.114.
In the Marquesas Islands, where things were never done by halves, a sexual 
rite was also performed at every wedding festivity.  It can perhaps be 
regarded as a farewell to the free life of the unmarried.  When the 
festivity was drawing to an end, ‘at a sign from the bridegroom all the 
men present assembled, forming a queue, and each in turn passed before 
the bride, who, lying in a corner of the paepae, with her head on the 
bridegroom’s knee, received them all as husbands.  The procession was 
headed by the oldest men and those of lowest birth, then came the great 
chiefs and last of all the husband.... When one thinks of the great 
number of men who took part in these festivities ... one may well think 
that the proceedings were symbolic.  But they were not.... A newly-married 
woman was sometimes half-dead and obliged to keep her bed for several 
days afterwards.  This test of strength was not regarded as in any way 
degrading or shameful, and the more men a bride had satisfied the prouder 
she was.



The wedding celebration should perhaps be modernised.  For example of the 
whole village typically was at the wedding, but Polynesians were 
incapable any larger settlements.  Perhaps in our times entire cities 
should be at the weddings.  And don’t forget you multi-culturalists, this 
is non-white culture and therefore should be practised with equal relish 
as the other things pertaining to multi-culturalism.


p.116.
	In Samoa defloration was carried out in public; according to 
Pritchard, the procedure was as follows:  As soon as the guests had 
assembled round the malae (the place where the feasts were held) the 
bride was let in. ‘All her mats were taken off by the old duennas; who 
then slowly paraded her, naked and trembling, before the silent gaze of 
the multitude, then she was seated, with her legs crossed, on a snow-white 
mat spread on the ground, in the centre of the square, or malae.  There 
the chief approached her and silently seated himself also cross-legged, 
close to and directly facing her.  Then was the critical moment.  Though 
perhaps more than a thousand spectators looked on, of all ages and both 
sexes, not a word -- not a sound was heard.  Then, placing his left hand 
on the girl’s right shoulder, the chief inserted the two forefingers of 
his right hand into the vulva, while two old duennas held her round the 
waisr from behind.  In a moment the chief’s arm was held up, the two 
fingers only extended, when her anxious tribe watched eagerly for the 
drops of blood to trickle down--the sight of which was the signal for 
vehement cheers, which proclaimed the honour of the tribe and the dignity 
of the chief unsullied, and the virtue of the bride such as became one of 
her fair name.


This of course was restricted to the nobility which doesn’t fit into our 
sill...oops rational thinking.  Perhaps since we believe in everybody 
being equal all women before they get married should have this done to 
them.  Perhaps it should be televised so that everybody can watch. 

If you multi-culturalists find this repulsive then why?  And why should 
it not be practised?  Afterall you do believe in multi-culturalism and 
everybody being equal don’t you?

Ourobouros.



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Love in South Seas, by B. Danielsson.

p.114.
In the Marquesas Islands, where things were never done by halves, a sexual 
rite was also performed at every wedding festivity.  It can perhaps be 
regarded as a farewell to the free life of the unmarried.  When the 
festivity was drawing to an end, ‘at a sign from the bridegroom all the 
men present assembled, forming a queue, and each in turn passed before 
the bride, who, lying in a corner of the paepae, with her head on the 
bridegroom’s knee, received them all as husbands.  The procession was 
headed by the oldest men and those of lowest birth, then came the great 
chiefs and last of all the husband.... When one thinks of the great 
number of men who took part in these festivities ... one may well think 
that the proceedings were symbolic.  But they were not.... A newly-married 
woman was sometimes half-dead and obliged to keep her bed for several 
days afterwards.  This test of strength was not regarded as in any way 
degrading or shameful, and the more men a bride had satisfied the prouder 
she was.



The wedding celebration should perhaps be modernised.  For example of the 
whole village typically was at the wedding, but Polynesians were 
incapable any larger settlements.  Perhaps in our times entire cities 
should be at the weddings.  And don’t forget you multi-culturalists, this 
is non-white culture and therefore should be practised with equal relish 
as the other things pertaining to multi-culturalism.


p.116.
	In Samoa defloration was carried out in public; according to 
Pritchard, the procedure was as follows:  As soon as the guests had 
assembled round the malae (the place where the feasts were held) the 
bride was let in. ‘All her mats were taken off by the old duennas; who 
then slowly paraded her, naked and trembling, before the silent gaze of 
the multitude, then she was seated, with her legs crossed, on a snow-white 
mat spread on the ground, in the centre of the square, or malae.  There 
the chief approached her and silently seated himself also cross-legged, 
close to and directly facing her.  Then was the critical moment.  Though 
perhaps more than a thousand spectators looked on, of all ages and both 
sexes, not a word -- not a sound was heard.  Then, placing his left hand 
on the girl’s right shoulder, the chief inserted the two forefingers of 
his right hand into the vulva, while two old duennas held her round the 
waisr from behind.  In a moment the chief’s arm was held up, the two 
fingers only extended, when her anxious tribe watched eagerly for the 
drops of blood to trickle down--the sight of which was the signal for 
vehement cheers, which proclaimed the honour of the tribe and the dignity 
of the chief unsullied, and the virtue of the bride such as became one of 
her fair name.


This of course was restricted to the nobility which doesn’t fit into our 
sill...oops rational thinking.  Perhaps since we believe in everybody 
being equal all women before they get married should have this done to 
them.  Perhaps it should be televised so that everybody can watch. 

If you multi-culturalists find this repulsive then why?  And why should 
it not be practised?  Afterall you do believe in multi-culturalism and 
everybody being equal don’t you?

Ourobouros.

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