The Nizkor Project: Remembering the Holocaust (Shoah)

Shofar FTP Archive File: people/m/martin.willie/13texan-list/13texan.9908


Subject: [13texan] Re: Belzec investigation - mass graves found
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 10:17:03 -0400
From: Charles 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

So now where is your proof they were JEWS? Are jews the only people
who were killed durring WW2 or are you only interested in the death
of jews? I am in no way upholding hitler or the nazi's but what about
American bombers how many innocent Germans did they kill? and How do
you cremate a body in a baking oven ? Wake up!!!! this is 1999 and
most everyone who was responsiible for thoes mass graves in now in
a grave most likely. give it a rest please!

Charles

>philnancy@aol.com wrote:
>
> philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
> original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=422
> > People die during a war, it has happened all over the
> > world. They also die for many things and most are buried!
> >
> > Maybe they should drill for traces of Tay - Sachs !
>
> People don't just happen to die and end up in mass graves on the site
> of a know extermination camp. Together with Nazi admissions and
> documentary evidence, the actions of Nazi Germany with respect to Jews
> and others is beyond doubt.
>
> Philip Mathews

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Belzec investigation - mass graves found
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 11:01:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: maxwell99@webtv.net (Colleen Jones)
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

Re the mass graves - many people were killed in the bombing raids and I
always wondered too no mention about their grave sites.....but the Pope
years back made similar remarks about a lot of Polish people died too
when it came to the holocaust...and then, someone shot him.....his would
be assassin confided to the Pope who put him up to it, but his lips are
sealed....howevr, the Pope did not fall in the open field and that is
the Rosicrucian CFR plan....for the believers, they must see this man
fall in the open, mortally wounded...his recent fall - how could they
let him do that.

So anybody who questions who did what, often there is retaliation by
Mossad in disguise....my brother in law dropped bombs in WWII but it was
nothing of which he was proud.   But he always loved the Red Baron.

Colleen

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Doubting Thomases
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 11:02:28 EDT
From: SNEADSTER@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

In a message dated 8/29/99 5:52:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time, gormanh@home.com
writes:

<< Perhaps that explains the human skin artifacts found at Buchenwald, which
can be
 seen at the United States National Archives?
  >>

    Isn't Buchenwald located in the old Soviet Union region? Isn't it strange
that all of the so called "Death Camps"  were located in the Jewish
controlled Soviet Union? have you ever wondered why? The Jews that controlled
the killing machine of scores of millions (at least 66 million) of Christians
in the Soviet Union had to fabricate some kind of atrocity to sway the people
of the world to look another direction.
    Hitler was sending his army to Moscow to round up these criminals himself
since the United States and Britain were going to have an alliance with the
paranoid butcher Stalin and his Brother-in-law Lazar M. Kaganovich (a Jew),
who was known as the "Wolf of the Kremlin".
    Another thing that I have to question is: The United States National
Archives has skin artifacts (sic) to display like a Ripley's Believe it or
Not Museum is as big a joke as the 6 million (to be lowered again to 4.5
million).
    Even the ovens (sic) that cremated or burned the Jews would had to of
been a waste of coal or gas in a very important time. There are NO aerial
photographs at anytime that show smoke coming from any of the "Death Camps".
If these were death camps, why did some survive them for six years?  Was it
Simon Wiesenthal who cut his wrists to end his life and woke up in the
infirmary being nursed back to health by those mean ole Nazis?
Michael Snead
14-88

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Slander Against Germany
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 08:07:48 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=430
> At 06:25 AM 8/27/99 -0700, philnancy@aol.com wrote:
> >pmathew-@devine-pearson.com wrote:
>
> >> >Philip Mathews
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Where are the mountains of ash, Mathews?
> >
> >
> >There doesn't have to be mountains of ash.
>
>
> That's not what you answered the last two times I asked this question
> of you. Here are your answers to me awhile back.
>
>
> Subject: Re: Where's the ASH
> X-Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> Date: 1999/01/07
> Author: PHILNANCY 
> Posting History
>
>
> In >Message-id: <36941B3B.34D9@connect.ab.caKadach wrote:
>
>
>
>                     >
>                     >PHILNANCY wrote:
>                     >>
>                     >> In >Message-id: <36940ECF.5B1B@connect.ab.ca>K
adach
> wrote:
>                     >>
>                     >> >PHILNANCY wrote:
>                     >> >>
>                     >> >> In >Message-id:
>                     <199901070004.QAA13461@sirius.infonex.com>jethro
bodean
>                     >> >wrote:
>                     >> >>
>                     >> >> >If we are going to discuss the finer
details of
> cremation,
>                     >> >> >we certainly need to address the fact that
> several of the
>                     >> >> >larger human bones are not reduced to ash
during
> cremation.
>                     >> >> >Therefore, skeptical minds want to know
where
> are the millions
>                     >> >> >of bones of Jews "holocausted" in Europe
during
> WWII???????
>                     >> >> >Serious answers only, please.  Insults and
> smart-aleck remarks
>                     >> >> >will not bolster your case one iota.
>                     >> >>
>                     >> >> Fuck off!
>                     >> >>
>                     >> >> Philip Mathews
>                     >> >
>                     >> >
>                     >> >Where is the ash you arschloch?
>                     >> >
>                     >> >
>                     >>
>                     >> He's not looking for the ash, ass.  He's
looking for
> bones, drone.
>                     >>
>                     >> Philip Mathews
>                     >
>                     >
>                     >And where are the bones?  You're little
misdirection ploy
>                     >won't work. A person asks a simple question and
your
> answer
>                     >is "fuck off". Talk about evasion.
>                     >Where are the mountains of ash you arschloch?
>                     >
>                     >Regards,
>                     >
>                     >Ed Kadach
>
>                     Fuck off.
>
>                     Philip Mathews
>
>                     "Mankind have a great aversion to intellectual
labor;
> but even supposing
>                     knowledge to be easily attainable, more people
would be
> content to be
>                     ignorant than would take even a little trouble to
> acquire it."
>                      Samuel Johnson

Yes, in other words, there need be no mountains of ash Eddie. Is it
getting through yet?

>
>
>
> > As McVay has stated on alt.revisionism, Nizkor
> >> has only enough funding till the end of the year and the rumour
mill
> >has
> >> it the usual funding will cease.(And do you blame them, he has
become
> >an
> >> embarrassment)
> >
> >Nizkor's funding has nothing to do with the Holocaust as historical
> >fact. You and others have been predicting the demise of this fine
> >organization for years. I must send Mr. McVay a check today!
> >
> >
> >Philip Mathews
>
>
> Yes, by all means send your check of $10.00 directly to Ken and not
> to Nizkor. We know what Ken does with the Nizkor funds. And by the
> way, forward this tidbit to Mr. McVay who apparently, as you yourself
> know has commenced to share some of my comments with REDmontons
> finest.
>

You don't know any of these things. They are just your usual lies,
substituted for facts, of which you have none. All you have is a
mindless animus toward Jews, which you demonstate beautifully.

>
> >Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 11:47:20 -0400 (EDT)
> >From: kmcvay@nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay OBC)
> >Subject: Re: NAZIKOR/NIZKOR/McVAY  SWINDLES  EVEN  JEWS
> >X-Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.jewish
> >Organization: The Nizkor Project
>
>
>
> >In article <3782AC9B.528E@connect.ab.ca> you write:
> >>Just mail it directly to McVay so he doesn't have to embezzle
> >>it from Nazikor.
> >
> >I am going to do you a favour, Mr. Kadach, and plitiely suggest that
> >you be careful with your accusations.
> >
> >If you doubt the import of Canada's criminal defamation code, I
> >suggest you discuss it with Detective Kunce, Edmonton Police Service.
> >You can reach him at 403-421-3559.
> >
> >If you continue making irresponsible accusations of criminal behavior
> >on my part, I will file a formal criminal complaint with the Edmonton
> >Police, as I have done in another case.
> >
> >The Special Prosecutions Branch of Justice Alberta is now reviewing a
> >previous complaint, after receiving the Court Brief from Detective
> >Kunce. Although this is a long and tedious process, I assure you my
> >complaint will get due attention.
> >
> >Consider this a polite, private, word to the wise. You won't get
> >another.
> >
> >Ken McVay
> >
> >--
> >                   Church of the Creator: Creed of Hate
> >            http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/orgs/american/adl/cotc/
> >
> >    The Nizkor Project: An electronic Holocaust education resource

You should take his advice, or your wife will really get ripped!

Philip Mathews



------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Poland: Mass Graves?
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 11:11:48 EDT
From: SNEADSTER@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

In a message dated 8/29/99 2:49:15 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
great_pyramid@hotmail.com writes:

<< This is interesting. I notice not one autopsy report is included. This
 report tells us nothing, but is full of conjecture as usual taken as facts
>>

There will be no autopsy report where the truth will be told because they
will definitely see that there was an epidemic of Typhus that killed these
people.
Michael Snead

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: NOTHING BUT JEWISH LIES
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 08:27:24 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=427
> Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 21:11:52 -0400
> To:
> Reply-To:
> Subject:)NOTHING BUT JEWISH LIES
> Sender:
>
(Snip long, hatefilled, antisemitic rant.

>
> THE NUMBER OF JEWS BEING KILLED DURING WWII
>
>
> As to the number of Jews supposedly gassed at the various camps, at
no time
> during the German occupation of Europe were there more than 4,5
million
> Jews living in that area

Nonsense. The Germans themselves estimated the total at over 11 million
in the Wannsee Protocols. The number was probably somewhat less, but
substantially more than 6 million.

. If we look into the information which the Zionist
> Publication, "The Canadian Jewish News", from 1. January 1981 give us:
>
> In this paper it is stated that by 1980 almost 99,1% of all damage
claims
> by Jews had been paid and that 4,344,371 Jews had got their money
from Germany

Good. After half a century.

>
> My questions are:
>
> - How can 6 million be gassed when only 4.5 million Jews lived in the
area
> occupied by Germany from 1939 till December 1944? (Why December 1944?
> Because the chief holocaust rabbi Elie Wiesel tells us in his
autobiography
> "The Night" that he and his father were moved from Auschwitz in
January
> 1945 and they had not been gassed.)

As I've pointed out your numbers are wrong. The fact that the Nazis
didn't kill all Jews doesn't mean they didn't try.

>
> (actually it was less than 4,5 Mill. far less. The Baseler News on
> 18.June 1946 worked out some 3,6 Million.  A figure we could confirm
> from old dictionarys released pre war-)

A lie.
>
> - How can 6 million be gassed when only 4.5 million Jews lived in the
area
> and 4.344 million of those 4.5 million survived?

Repeating the same lie gives it no currency.
>
> - According to the Jewish holocaust lies "all children and females
were
> gassed upon arrival at the camp".

Not true. But most.
>
> How is it that many Jewish children were born in the camps?

How many were born in the camps?

>
> According to the age of many of those who now are claiming money from
> German, Swiss and Austrian Banks they must have been born either just
> before or during the war. This does not fit the hoax of the Germans
killing
> all Jewish children.

Unsupported assertions.
>
> LET US PRETEND THAT HITLER DID ORDER ALL JEWS KILLED!
>
> If he had there would not have been one Jew alive 20 days after he had
> issued such an order!!!!!!!! So strong was his power in Germany!!!!!

Nonsense. An outlandish claim exposing the depths of ignorance.

>
> They would not have been gassed but shot. The cost of gassing a
person in
> 1940 was over 10,000 times more than the cost of one bullet. Nobody
would
> choose that costly method to kill somebody when they could use
bullets.
> Only Jews can think such idiotic thoughts as using gas to kill.

More nonsense. Over 1 million were shot by the Einsaztgruppen, but as
Nazi documents and testimony revealed it took a terrible psychological
toll on the soldiers carrying out the shootings and allowed for far too
many witnesses to the crimes. Gassing, first in mobile vans and then in
fixed extermination facilities was substituted for shooting.

>
> As over 4.3 Million Jews survived neither he nor any other of the
German
> leadership issued any order regarding gassing or killing of Jews. No,
> Hitler wanted the Jews moved out of Europe and he wanted to ship them
> eastwards. This was after he realised he could not move them to
Madagascar.
> But the war stopped the movement of the Jews away from European soil.

Any thought of emigration ended in 1941, and the The Final Solution,
the extermination of European Jewry, was implemented. Better than 2/3
of Europes Jews perished.

>
> To remove the Jews from European soil was a good idea and should have
been
> welcomed by all parties. The Jews do not belong on European soil,
they are
> nomads and Asiatics and thus not fit to live on our continent!

More nonsense. They belong whereever they wish to be, like any other
person. The Jews of Germany had been there for 4 hundred years by WWII,
and their presence throughout Europe was of long standing. Hitler and
Nazis had no business deciding the fate of a whole people.

>
> Let us unite in the demand that the Jews give us and the world
judicial and
> forensic proof that one of their brethren was gassed. If they can't
then
> let us remove them from our midst.

Proven over 50 years ago, and every year since. It is not the Jews who
have proven this, but historians.

Philip Mathews

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Poland: Mass Graves?
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 08:31:02 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=443
> In a message dated 8/29/99 2:49:15 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> great_pyramid@hotmail.com writes:
>
> << This is interesting. I notice not one autopsy report is included.
This
>  report tells us nothing, but is full of conjecture as usual taken as
facts
> >>
>
> There will be no autopsy report where the truth will be told because
they
> will definitely see that there was an epidemic of Typhus that killed
these
> people.

There was no typhus epidemic at Belzec! Belzec was not a labor camp, no
prisoners were kept there. They arrived and were gassed.  As the Nazis
admitted.

Philip Mathews

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Belzec investigation - mass graves found
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 11:41:38 EDT
From: SNEADSTER@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

In a message dated 8/29/99 5:48:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time, gormanh@home.com
writes:

<< >      Lazar M. Kaganovich was responsible for at least 20 million himself
and
 > the destruction of hundreds of beautiful Christian Churches.

 I guess that the difference is that there isn't any movement afoot to deny
that
 such things happened.
  >>

    First of all it can't be denied because the Aryan people have no reason
to fabricate any atrocities. The Jewish historians have suppressed these
truths and  with them owning 90% of the book publication that was easy to do.
And Gorman, go outside your Jewish circle and take a poll and ask just one
question: Have you heard of Lazar Moiseyevich Kaganovich? You will get a zero
response.
    Your friends have done well to surpress the murdering Jew who was
responcible for the death of  20 million white Christians and have glorified
Holahoax survivors, extorted money from every nation in the world and made
Hitler's six million (sic) dead Jews seem like a terrible thing.
    What you need to do is quit guessing because when all is said and done,
God's children will prevail and we all know who wins in the end. To bad you
read the Talmud, it doesn't tell you the TRUTH. You have a chance to turn
from your wicked race, I mean ways and make a real change. By the way why
don't you try to find me a good used Talmud for about $10.00.
Thanks Bud (sic),
Michael Snead
14-88

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] More Conjecture
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 08:57:48 PDT
From: "Jeanne-Marie Zimmerman" 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

One wrote previously:
I have a picture that shows a traffic sign, telling the drivers to go 5mph
because of typhus can be carried in the dust! The Jews have made a lot to do
about nothing over this so called Holocaust especially when the Jew-Boshevic
controlled Soviet union was responsible for the slaughter of over 66 million
to 100 million white, Christian Russians from 1917-1959.
~~~~~~~
Herb:
I don't see what one horror had to do with the other. Both were terrible,
and all of the perpetrators are to be condemned.
~~~~~~~
Me: For the predominant Jewish role in what happened in the Soviet Union
during this time, Nizkor will never condemn them. Simon Weasenthal will
never condemn them. Elie the Weasel will never condemn them. Morris the
Sleaze will never condemn them. But they will all whine about the growth of
"anti-'Semitism.'"
~~~~~~~
One wrote:
Lazar M. Kaganovich was responsible for at least 20 million himself and the
destruction of hundreds of beautiful Christian Churches.
~~~~~~~
Herb:
I guess that the difference is that there isn't any movement afoot to deny
that such things happened.
~~~~~~~
Me: Yes there is, Herb. One is labeled a "hater" and an "anti-'Semite'" for
telling the truth.
~~~~~~~
I had said about the so-called Polish mass graves:
Me: This is interesting. I notice not one autopsy report is included. This
report tells us nothing, but is full of conjecture as usual taken as facts
that these people were murdered and buried here.
~~~~~~~
Herb:
The archeological team was led by Polish scientists.
~~~~~~~
Me: Where are the autopsy reports, Herb?
~~~~~~~
I had said:
Interesting, Michael, but I thought the Germans loved lamp shades.
~~~~~~~
Herb:
Perhaps that explains the human skin artifacts found at Buchenwald, which
can be seen at the United States National Archives?
~~~~~~~
Me: They're goat skins, Herb.
~~~~~~~
I had said:
That's what has always been so funny about the whole phony Hoaxa¢au$t®
story. The Germans hated Jews so much they would first gas them,
then take their bodies and use them for soap and lamp shades.
~~~~~~~
Herb:
I have never seen a report of such use of Jewish bodies. Can you tell me
where to find it? I know that the Germans did experiment with making soap
from human fat, but there isn't any evidence that they used Jews for these
experiments, unless you are aware of some that wasn't previously known?
~~~~~~~
Me: This is too much. The Kikes started this story a long time ago. Some
still try to tell it like it's a fact, and Herb's never heard of it until
now. Go ask Nizkor, Herb, or Simon, or Elie, or Morris about this story.
It's just another Jewish fable.

JM

"Wahrheit ist unser Erbe"

"The great ideal of Judaism is that the whole world shall be imbued with
Jewish teachings, and that in a universal brotherhood of nations - a greater
Judaism in fact - all the separate races and religions shall disappear."
(Jewish World, February 9, 1883)

The Encyclopedia Judaica as well as the Jewish Encyclopedias
state, "Edom is in modern Jewry."

______________________________________________________

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Jewish Control
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 09:10:18 PDT
From: "Jeanne-Marie Zimmerman" 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

Gorman wrote:

Perhaps that explains the human skin artifacts found at Buchenwald, which
can be seen at the United States National Archives.
~~~~~~~
Michael Snead:

     Isn't Buchenwald located in the old Soviet Union region? Isn't it
strange that all of the so called "Death Camps"  were located in the Jewish
controlled Soviet Union? have you ever wondered why? The Jews that
controlled the killing machine of scores of millions (at least 66 million)
of Christians in the Soviet Union had to fabricate some kind of atrocity to
sway the people of the world to look another direction.
~~~~~~~
Me: Michael, thankyou for bringing this fact up. I was on my way to raising
it myself.
~~~~~~~
Michael:
     Hitler was sending his army to Moscow to round up these criminals
himself since the United States and Britain were going to have an alliance
with the paranoid butcher Stalin and his Brother-in-law Lazar M. Kaganovich
(a Jew), who was known as the "Wolf of the Kremlin".
~~~~~~~
Me: True, to crush Khazarian Judeo-Bolshevism.
~~~~~~~
Michael:
     Another thing that I have to question is: The United States National
Archives has skin artifacts (sic) to display like a Ripley's Believe it or
Not Museum is as big a joke as the 6 million (to be lowered again to 4.5
million).
~~~~~~~
Me: Governments in places already lowered the numbers quietly to 1.1
million, and that number has also been lowered again since in other places.
~~~~~~~
Michael:
Even the ovens (sic) that cremated or burned the Jews would had to of been a
waste of coal or gas in a very important time. There are NO aerial
photographs at anytime that show smoke coming from any of the "Death Camps".
~~~~~~~
Me: And this is where they then come in with the false accusation that FDR
and the Vatican and all of the rest allowed Jews to be killed in these
places although there's no evidence again. In other words, the HolyHoax is a
religion one has to believe in. No evidence, just conjecture and lies.
Nothing like self-aggrandizement to cover one's own crimes as you mentioned
in the beginning of this post.
~~~~~~~
Michael:
If these were death camps, why did some survive them for six years?  Was it
Simon Wiesenthal who cut his wrists to end his life and woke up in the
infirmary being nursed back to health by those mean ole Nazis?
Michael Snead
14-88
~~~~~~~
Me: Good point again, Michael. There are so many "survivors" wanting the
gold and the other wealth of nations, one wonders where the Holocaust is
except the true one they wish to hide which occurred under Jewish rule in
the old Soviet Union and Eastern Europe. If so many Jews survived, they
couldn't have been death camps. They were work camps which including
swimming pools, sports facilities, post office delivery, etc.
JM

______________________________________________________

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Poland: Mass Graves?
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 12:19:26 EDT
From: SNEADSTER@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

In a message dated 8/29/99 5:48:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time, gormanh@home.com
writes:

<< The archeological team was led by Polish scientists.
  >>
    The archeological team was led by Polish scientists who were being paid
by a Jewish entity.  I am a superintendent for a general contractor that does
commercial lease buildouts for corporations.  The corporation has a contact
person who informs me of any changes that are to be made and I relay the
message to the subcontractor.
     Sometimes I have to deal with people who think they know more about my
job than I do and insist on changes being made that are against codes or were
omitted from the original drawings.  When I bring it to their attention their
reply is, "Maybe the inspector or fire marshall will not catch it."  Of
course I do what the "boss" wants.
    I wonder if these Polish scientists are Jews?  If so, I question their
objectivity and, therefore, their findings because of who is paying the bills.
Michael Snead
14-88

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: GOOD LUCK
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 12:24:51 -0400
From: William Seitzinger 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

Try Friends of the Swastika:- http://www.ambient.on.ca/swastika/
Email:- manwoman@cyberlink.bc.ca

Brother Bill

Charles wrote:

> Someone may not know, but a US President once ran
> using this symbol can anyone tell me his name?
> I believe it was Taft?
> Charles
> ---
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
> Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
> http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765
>
> eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
> http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications
>
>   ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  [Image]

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Willie: Kick these Bastards Off
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 09:25:35 PDT
From: "Jeanne-Marie Zimmerman" 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

You should take his advice, or your wife will really get ripped!

Philip Mathews
~~~~~~~
Me: Willie, will you kindly unsubscribe this stupid bastard from off of this
list? This psycho sounds like Jack the Ripper. Look at the threats they're
making to Ed Kadach. For now, this pig slime hides behind the laws his ilk
helped put into place in Canada, but I'm sure there will be more Eric's out
there taking care of things their own way. The resistance is growing and
underground, and it's only a matter of time before the evil empire goes
down.

Ed said:
 > Yes, by all means send your check of $10.00 directly to Ken and not
 > to Nizkor. We know what Ken does with the Nizkor funds. And by the
 > way, forward this tidbit to Mr. McVay who apparently, as you yourself
know has commenced to share some of my comments with REDmontons finest.
~~~~~~~
McVay
You don't know any of these things. They are just your usual lies,
substituted for facts, of which you have none. All you have is a
mindless animus toward Jews, which you demonstate beautifully.
~~~~~~~
Ed:
 > >In article <3782AC9B.528E@connect.ab.ca> you write:
 > >>Just mail it directly to McVay so he doesn't have to embezzle
 > >>it from Nazikor.
~~~~~~~
McVay:
 > >I am going to do you a favour, Mr. Kadach, and plitiely suggest that you
be careful with your accusations.

 > >If you doubt the import of Canada's criminal defamation code, I
 > >suggest you discuss it with Detective Kunce, Edmonton Police Service.
 > >You can reach him at 403-421-3559.
~~~~~~~
Me: Ya, and who passed those laws in Canada? Ed, you save this post, and
show them the threat below about your wife "getting ripped." And Willie,
would you please kick these bastards off this list? They need to be censored
the way they do us. I notice most of them are stupid illiterates who can't
even spell anyway.
~~~~~~~
McVay:
 > >If you continue making irresponsible accusations of criminal behavior
 > >on my part, I will file a formal criminal complaint with the Edmonton
 > >Police, as I have done in another case.
 > >
 > >The Special Prosecutions Branch of Justice Alberta is now reviewing a
 > >previous complaint, after receiving the Court Brief from Detective
 > >Kunce. Although this is a long and tedious process, I assure you my
 > >complaint will get due attention.
 > >
 > >Consider this a polite, private, word to the wise. You won't get
 > >another.
 > >
 > >Ken McVayYou should take his advice, or your wife will really get
ripped!

Philip Mathews

 > >
 > >--
 > >                   Church of the Creator: Creed of Hate
 > >            http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/orgs/american/adl/cotc/
 > >
 > >    The Nizkor Project: An electronic Holocaust education resource

______________________________________________________

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Zyklon-B:Jewish Development
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 12:29:29 EDT
From: SNEADSTER@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

Gorman,
    Your lack of reasoning is overwhelming...the allied forces were bombing
all of the German refineries and fuel was being rationed! Believe me, a
bullet was and is today a lot cheaper than the method you speak of.
Michael Snead
14-88

 x~~~x~~~x~~~x~~~x~~~x~~~x~~~x~~~x~~~x~~~x~~~x~~~x~~~x~~~x~~~x

In a message dated 8/26/99 5:51:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gormanh@home.com
writes:

<< The Aktion Reinhard deathcamps, Sobibor, Belzec and Treblinka,
 accounted for perhaps another two million, all gassed with engine
 exhaust (petrol at Belzec and Sobibor, diesel at Treblinka), and, of
 course, we have the Chelmno victims, also murdered with carbon
 monoxide, both in homocidal gas chambers and in mobile killing vans.
  >>

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Zyklon-B:Jewish Development
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 12:32:07 EDT
From: SNEADSTER@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

In a message dated 8/26/99 5:51:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gormanh@home.com
writes:

<< homocidal  >>
Was this a pun or you have no spell check?  homicidal is the correct way to
spell it.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Zyklon-B:Jewish Development
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 12:36:23 EDT
From: CAOSB1@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

    I think you are all a little off and definitely exaggerating like crazy
on both sides of this argument and I am not seeing much in the way of fact on
either side of the fence. Sooo I guess you could say for all of you I am now
history BYE!
CAOSB

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Willie: Kick these Bastards Off
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 09:51:06 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=451
> You should take his advice, or your wife will really get ripped!
>
> Philip Mathews
> ~~~~~~~
> Me: Willie, will you kindly unsubscribe this stupid bastard from off
of this
> list? This psycho sounds like Jack the Ripper. Look at the threats
they're
> making to Ed Kadach. For now, this pig slime hides behind the laws
his ilk
> helped put into place in Canada, but I'm sure there will be more
Eric's out
> there taking care of things their own way. The resistance is growing
and
> underground, and it's only a matter of time before the evil empire
goes
> down.

I've made no threats to Ed. He understands the reference.

>
> Ed said:
>  > Yes, by all means send your check of $10.00 directly to Ken and not
>  > to Nizkor. We know what Ken does with the Nizkor funds. And by the
>  > way, forward this tidbit to Mr. McVay who apparently, as you
yourself
> know has commenced to share some of my comments with REDmontons
finest.
> ~~~~~~~

> You don't know any of these things. They are just your usual lies,
> substituted for facts, of which you have none. All you have is a
> mindless animus toward Jews, which you demonstate beautifully.
> ~~~~~~~
> Ed:
>  > >In article <3782AC9B.528E@connect.ab.ca> you write:
>  > >>Just mail it directly to McVay so he doesn't have to embezzle
>  > >>it from Nazikor.
> ~~~~~~~
> McVay:
>  > >I am going to do you a favour, Mr. Kadach, and plitiely suggest
that you
> be careful with your accusations.
>
>  > >If you doubt the import of Canada's criminal defamation code, I
>  > >suggest you discuss it with Detective Kunce, Edmonton Police
Service.
>  > >You can reach him at 403-421-3559.
> ~~~~~~~
> Me: Ya, and who passed those laws in Canada? Ed, you save this post,
and
> show them the threat below about your wife "getting ripped." And
Willie,
> would you please kick these bastards off this list? They need to be
censored
> the way they do us. I notice most of them are stupid illiterates who
can't
> even spell anyway.

I made no threat. And the laws referred to are slander and libel, laws
which all civilized nations have in one form or another. This has
nothing to do with misguided hate laws. I suspect Ms. Zimmerman's
actual problem rests in having her erroneous opinions exposed. So much
for her supposed belief in free speech!

> ~~~~~~~
> McVay:
>  > >If you continue making irresponsible accusations of criminal
behavior
>  > >on my part, I will file a formal criminal complaint with the
Edmonton
>  > >Police, as I have done in another case.
>  > >
>  > >The Special Prosecutions Branch of Justice Alberta is now
reviewing a
>  > >previous complaint, after receiving the Court Brief from Detective
>  > >Kunce. Although this is a long and tedious process, I assure you
my
>  > >complaint will get due attention.
>  > >
>  > >Consider this a polite, private, word to the wise. You won't get
>  > >another.
>  > >
>  > >Ken McVayYou should take his advice, or your wife will really get
> ripped!
>

Philip Mathews

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] JM: Mathews
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 10:03:27 PDT
From: "Jeanne-Marie Zimmerman" 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

Philip Mathews said:
 > You should take his advice, or your wife will really get ripped!
 >
 > Philip Mathews
 > ~~~~~~~
I said:
Willie, will you kindly unsubscribe this stupid bastard from off
of this list? This psycho sounds like Jack the Ripper. Look at the threats
they're making to Ed Kadach. For now, this pig slime hides behind the laws
his ilk helped put into place in Canada, but I'm sure there will be more
Eric's out there taking care of things their own way. The resistance is
growing and underground, and it's only a matter of time before the evil
empire goes down.
~~~~~~~
Mathews said:
I've made no threats to Ed. He understands the reference.

also:

I made no threat. And the laws referred to are slander and libel, laws
which all civilized nations have in one form or another. This has
nothing to do with misguided hate laws. I suspect Ms. Zimmerman's
actual problem rests in having her erroneous opinions exposed. So much
for her supposed belief in free speech!
~~~~~~~
Me: You did too make a threat. Everyone saw it, and by now, the resistance
has it.
JM

______________________________________________________

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Jewish Control
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 10:03:59 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=448
> Gorman wrote:
>
> Perhaps that explains the human skin artifacts found at Buchenwald,
which
> can be seen at the United States National Archives.
> ~~~~~~~
> Michael Snead:
>
>      Isn't Buchenwald located in the old Soviet Union region? Isn't
it
> strange that all of the so called "Death Camps"  were located in the
Jewish
> controlled Soviet Union? have you ever wondered why? The Jews that
> controlled the killing machine of scores of millions (at least 66
million)
> of Christians in the Soviet Union had to fabricate some kind of
atrocity to
> sway the people of the world to look another direction.

The death camps were under German control, not in Soviet controlled
Europe. Jews do not control any killing machine and your figure of 66
million is unsupportable, as is your contention they were all
Christian. Your charge of fabricated atrocity is noticeably without
evidence.

> ~~~~~~~
> Me: Michael, thankyou for bringing this fact up. I was on my way to
raising
> it myself.
> ~~~~~~~
> Michael:
>      Hitler was sending his army to Moscow to round up these
criminals
> himself since the United States and Britain were going to have an
alliance
> with the paranoid butcher Stalin and his Brother-in-law Lazar M.
Kaganovich
> (a Jew), who was known as the "Wolf of the Kremlin".

Hitler wanted land, and he wanted to kill Jews, both of which were in
abundance in the Soviet Union.

> ~~~~~~~
> Me: True, to crush Khazarian Judeo-Bolshevism.
> ~~~~~~~
> Michael:
>      Another thing that I have to question is: The United States
National
> Archives has skin artifacts (sic) to display like a Ripley's Believe
it or
> Not Museum is as big a joke as the 6 million (to be lowered again to
4.5
> million).

The evidence for human skin artifacts is substantial, including
forensic testing done in the U.S. in about 1948. There is no
anticipated reduction of the number of Jews killed from 6 million to
4.5 million.

> ~~~~~~~
> Me: Governments in places already lowered the numbers quietly to 1.1
> million, and that number has also been lowered again since in other
places.

You're confusing the totals for Auschwitz, one of many camps, with the
total overall. Historians have known the total was  in that vicinity
for decades, with the earlies history reflecting it published in the
early 1950's.

> ~~~~~~~
> Michael:
> Even the ovens (sic) that cremated or burned the Jews would had to of
been a
> waste of coal or gas in a very important time. There are NO aerial
> photographs at anytime that show smoke coming from any of the "Death
Camps".

The fuel was coke, a by product of the I.G. Farben plant at Auschwitz.
The evidence for cremation and smoke is massive, including the
admission of the Nazis at the camp.

> ~~~~~~~
> Me: And this is where they then come in with the false accusation
that FDR
> and the Vatican and all of the rest allowed Jews to be killed in
these
> places although there's no evidence again. In other words, the
HolyHoax is a
> religion one has to believe in. No evidence, just conjecture and
lies.
> Nothing like self-aggrandizement to cover one's own crimes as you
mentioned
> in the beginning of this post.

There is massive evidence, which is why it is an accepted historical
fact. The issue of whether the Vatican or FDR is another topic.

> ~~~~~~~
> Michael:
> If these were death camps, why did some survive them for six years?

Luck.

 Was it
> Simon Wiesenthal who cut his wrists to end his life and woke up in
the
> infirmary being nursed back to health by those mean ole Nazis?
> Michael Snead

Gee, I don't suppose you'd have a reference for that claim?

> 14-88
> ~~~~~~~
> Me: Good point again, Michael. There are so many "survivors" wanting
the
> gold and the other wealth of nations, one wonders where the Holocaust
is
> except the true one they wish to hide which occurred under Jewish
rule in
> the old Soviet Union and Eastern Europe

What survivors want, and have a right to expect, is the wealth stolen
from them by the Nazis.

. If so many Jews survived, they
> couldn't have been death camps.

Nonsense. There is no logic in that statement.

 They were work camps which including
> swimming pools, sports facilities, post office delivery, etc.

False. The deaths, accept Auschwitz, had no work component, and the
facilities you mention existed for the SS who ran the camps.

Philip Mathews

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: JM: Mathews
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 10:06:20 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=456
> Philip Mathews said:
>  > You should take his advice, or your wife will really get ripped!
>  >
>  > Philip Mathews
>  > ~~~~~~~
> I said:
> Willie, will you kindly unsubscribe this stupid bastard from off
> of this list? This psycho sounds like Jack the Ripper. Look at the
threats
> they're making to Ed Kadach. For now, this pig slime hides behind the
laws
> his ilk helped put into place in Canada, but I'm sure there will be
more
> Eric's out there taking care of things their own way. The resistance
is
> growing and underground, and it's only a matter of time before the
evil
> empire goes down.
> ~~~~~~~
> Mathews said:
> I've made no threats to Ed. He understands the reference.
>
> also:
>
> I made no threat. And the laws referred to are slander and libel, laws
> which all civilized nations have in one form or another. This has
> nothing to do with misguided hate laws. I suspect Ms. Zimmerman's
> actual problem rests in having her erroneous opinions exposed. So much
> for her supposed belief in free speech!
> ~~~~~~~
> Me: You did too make a threat. Everyone saw it, and by now, the
resistance
> has it.

Nonsense. I don't know where you come from, but someone getting ripped
means getting angry, and Ed knows what the reference means. Your
conspiracy theories are delusional.

Philip Mathews

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Zyklon-B:Jewish Development
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 10:09:31 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=452
> Gorman,
>     Your lack of reasoning is overwhelming...the allied forces were
bombing
> all of the German refineries and fuel was being rationed! Believe me,
a
> bullet was and is today a lot cheaper than the method you speak of.
> Michael Snead

Hardly. The fuel shortage, only a problem at the end of the war, has no
bearing on the relative cost of bullets versus Zyklon B. The cremation
was the Nazis choice as a means of hiding the dastardly deed and making
it difficult to compute the number of dead. Even if they had shot 6
million, you've got to do something with the bodies.

Philip Mathews

> 14-88
>
>  x~~~x~~~x~~~x~~~x~~~x~~~x~~~x~~~x~~~x~~~x~~~x~~~x~~~x~~~x~~~x
>
> In a message dated 8/26/99 5:51:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
gormanh@home.com
> writes:
>
> << The Aktion Reinhard deathcamps, Sobibor, Belzec and Treblinka,
>  accounted for perhaps another two million, all gassed with engine
>  exhaust (petrol at Belzec and Sobibor, diesel at Treblinka), and, of
>  course, we have the Chelmno victims, also murdered with carbon
>  monoxide, both in homocidal gas chambers and in mobile killing vans.
>   >>

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Proven History
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 10:18:49 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=434
> Philip Mattews had said:
> You might as well ask him to prove the American Civil War occurred.
> The Holocaust is a proven historical event, and the burden is on you
if you
> wish to claim it didn't occur, just as it would be your burden if you
> decided the Civil War never happened.
> ~~~~~~~
> Me: The American Civil War did not happen. It was the War Between the
> States. As for the Holocaust being a "proven" historical event--no,
> it's a religion. One has to believe in it or can be prosecuted in many
> countries around the world. The burden of proof is still on you.
> It's like saying the earth is flat.
> ~~~~~~~
> Mathews:
> The American Civil War and the War Between the States are the same.
> ~~~~~~~
> Me: Excuse me, Sir, but I know history far better than you. It was
not a
> Civil War because it was not between civilians but between two
sovereign
> governments.

Civil War does not mean between civilians!
> ~~~~~~~
> Mathews:
> Perhaps you really didn't know that. The Holocaust is proven history,
> accepted by the entire historical community and all thinking people.
> ~~~~~~~
> Me: Mathews, go take your hog wash somewhere else. The only
Holocausts I
> know about are the ones perpetrated by the "international community,"
> meaning Jewish, upon innocents this century.

And if we held you to the hight standards of historical proof, the same
that have proven the Holocaust, your "international community" fantasy
would reap the ridicule it deserves.

> ~~~~~~~
> I had said:
> Me: Go read David Irvings' "Nuremberg: The Last Battle."
> ~~~~~~~
> Mathews:
> I note that you can cite no evidence.
> ~~~~~~~
> Me: You've cited nothing either, except conjecture accepted as
history.
> David Irving has cited all of his primary sources; I don't have to
repeat
> anything. Go read the book, or just shut up for once.

I've cited none for the Second World War, because it is a known
historical fact. All historians cite their primary sources, or didn't
you know that?

Philip Mathews

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] "'Civil' Wars"
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 10:29:37 PDT
From: "Jeanne-Marie Zimmerman" 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

Mathews:

Civil War does not mean between civilians!
~~~~~~~
Me: For clarification to the list, I'm speaking to this pig slime for just
one moment. A Civil War does not occur between two different nations. That
is why it was The War between the States--The United States and the
Confederate States. It was between two nations, their governments, and their
people. A civil war is between people and their governments, so naturally
civilians are involved, and sometimes they fight each other.
JM

______________________________________________________

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] HELP
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 14:10:44 EDT
From: Jann186@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

Willie...think it about time to leave this group...they are getting on my
nerves, please unsubscribe me from this list ONLY.......PLEASE continue to
send the materials that you have been sending me for the last couple of
years.........I appreciate your efforts but this group is "nuts" and can't
take their nonsense any longer.  Thank you

jann

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Jewish Control
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 14:20:11 EDT
From: SNEADSTER@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

In a message dated 8/29/99 1:05:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
philnancy@aol.com writes:

<< The death camps were under German control, not in Soviet controlled
 Europe. Jews do not control any killing machine and your figure of 66
 million is unsupportable, as is your contention they were all Christian.
Your charge of fabricated atrocity is noticeably without evidence. >>


    The key word is "were"  meaning past tense and speaking of after WWII and
the partition of Europe by the United States, Britain, and the Jewish
Controlled Soviet Union. Have you not heard of the Bolsheviks? Have you heard
of Lenin, Trotsky, Kaganovich,  Molotov, Solts, Rapport, Berman, Yagoda, and
Frenkel? All were Jews.
    Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, a Nobel Prizewinner wrote in his opus, The Gulag
Archipelago, using I. A. Kurganov a Soviet statistician who had access to the
secret government files estimated that between the years of 1919 and 1959 at
least 66 million died at the hands of the Communist rulers of Russia.
    Solzhenitsyn  then affirms in, Gulag Archipelago II that the Jews created
and administered the organized Soviet Concentration camp system in which tens
of millions died. You know who the leading administrators of the greatest
killing machine in the history of the world were? Solts, Rapport, Berman,
Yagoda, Fenkel and Kaganovich (Twenty million himself. The Wolf of the
Kremlin written by his nephew Stuart Kahan 1988. page 297). Those six Jews
are even pictured on  page 79 of the Gulag Archipelago II.
    Excuse me for saying that they were all Christians...but they were
Russian. and your lame undocumented  claims are not acceptable and just
because you are a Jew, you think that I am to believe you? LOL.
Michael Snead
14-88


------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: JM: Mathews
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 14:24:36 EDT
From: SNEADSTER@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

In a message dated 8/29/99 1:07:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
philnancy@aol.com writes:

<<  Your
 conspiracy theories are delusional.

 Philip Mathews
  >>

Go look in a mirror and you will see what is delusional.
Michael Snead
14-88

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Doubting Thomases
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 12:02:17 -0700
From: Herb Gorman 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

SNEADSTER@aol.com wrote:

>     Isn't Buchenwald located in the old Soviet Union region? Isn't it strange

No, Buchenwald is in Germany. It was not a "death camp" per se, in that its
primary purpose was not mass murder.

> that all of the so called "Death Camps"  were located in the Jewish
> controlled Soviet Union? have you ever wondered why? The Jews that controlled

The deathcamps were located in German-controlled territory. The reasons for this
are obvious when you consider the political situation.

> the killing machine of scores of millions (at least 66 million) of Christians
> in the Soviet Union had to fabricate some kind of atrocity to sway the people
> of the world to look another direction.

What evidence do you offer that the Holocaust was "fabricated?" It is easy to
say, but not easy to prove.

The world has always known of Stalin's crimes - they are no mystery.

>     Another thing that I have to question is: The United States National
> Archives has skin artifacts (sic) to display like a Ripley's Believe it or
> Not Museum is as big a joke as the 6 million (to be lowered again to 4.5
> million).

Yes, the artifacts are there. No, they are not on display. Yes, you can view them
if you ask, along with the forensic testimony as to their human origin.

The figure of 6 million will be increased, not lowered, if evidence currently
coming to light since the fall of the Soviet Union is any indication - at least
that's what a lot of historians are telling us. There is no indication, anywhere
but in your imagination, that the estimates are going to be lowered.

>     Even the ovens (sic) that cremated or burned the Jews would had to of
> been a waste of coal or gas in a very important time. There are NO aerial

I agree - the Nazis were stupid. They wasted resources murdering Jews.

> photographs at anytime that show smoke coming from any of the "Death Camps".

"Thanks to Dr. Nevin Bryant, supervisor of cartographic applications and
image processing applications at Caltech/NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory
in Pasadena, California, I was able to get the CIA photographs properly
analyzed by people who know what they are looking at from the air. Nevin
and I analyzed the photographs using digital enhancements techniques not
available to the CIA in 1979. We were able to prove that the photographs
had not been tampered with, and we indeed found evidence of extermination
activity. The aerial photographs were shot in sequence as the plane flew
over the camp (on a bombing run toward its ultimate target - the IG Farben
Industrial works). Since the photographs of the camp were taken a few
seconds apart, stereoscopic viewing of two consecutive photographs show
movement of people and vehicles and provides better depth perception. The
aerial photograph in figure 23 [1] shows the distinctive features of Krema
II. Note the long shadow from the crematorium chimney and, on the roof of
the adjacent gas chamber at right angles to the crematorium building, note
the four staggered shadows. Ball claims these shadows were drawn in, but
four small structures that match the shadows are visible on the roof of
the gas chamber in figure 24 [2] taken by an SS photographer of the back
of Krema II (if you look directly below the chimney of krema II, you will
see two sides of the rectangular underground gas chamber structure
protruding a few feet above the ground.)

"The photgraphic evidence converges quite nicely with eyewitness accounts
describing SS men pouring Zyklon-B pellets through the opening in the roof
of the gas chamber. the aerial photograph in figure 25 [3] shows a group
of prisoners being marched to Krema V for gassing. The gas chamber is at
the end of the building, and the crematorium has double chimneys. From the
camp's daily logs, it is clear that these are Hungarian Jews from an RSHA
transport, some of whom where selected for work and the rest sent for
extermination. (Additional photographs and detailed discussion appear in
Shermer and Grobman 1977.)" (Shermer, Michael. Why People Believe Weird
Things: Pseudoscience, superstition, and other confusions of our time,
pp. 233-234, 235)

Regarding the aerial photographs, you need to know several things about them.
First, how many photographs were taken, and by whom? Second, and this is very
important, when were these photographs taken? Finally, you need to know which
parts of the Auschwitz complex were photographed.

So if you have a specific photograph in mind, which you feel proves that there
were no cremations at Birkenau, by all means let's disuss it.

> If these were death camps, why did some survive them for six years?  Was it

Because the Nazis failed to meet their objective, in spite of their best efforts?

> Simon Wiesenthal who cut his wrists to end his life and woke up in the
> infirmary being nursed back to health by those mean ole Nazis?

The war is full of stories like that... the good, the bad, the ugly. How do you
feel it "proves" that the Holocaust did not happen?

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Poland: Mass Graves?
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 12:05:56 -0700
From: Herb Gorman 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

> There will be no autopsy report where the truth will be told because they
> will definitely see that there was an epidemic of Typhus that killed these
> people.

Whether the victims died of disease, were shot, beaten to death, or gassed (in
this case with carbon monoxide), the reality is that they were murdered. They
were placed in confined places where disease was deliberately encouraged,
because the Nazis knew that many would die that way, and that suited their
purpose.

The Nazis, of course, did not die of typhus at the camps, nor did they starve
to death as their victims did.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Belzec investigation - mass graves found
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 12:12:06 -0700
From: Herb Gorman 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

SNEADSTER@aol.com wrote:

>     First of all it can't be denied because the Aryan people have no reason
> to fabricate any atrocities. The Jewish historians have suppressed these
> truths and  with them owning 90% of the book publication that was easy to do.
> And Gorman, go outside your Jewish circle and take a poll and ask just one
> question: Have you heard of Lazar Moiseyevich Kaganovich? You will get a zero
> response.

I see no evidence of any such fabrication, nor have you offered any.
I see no evidence that Jews own "90% of the book publication," either, nor have
you offered any. I do not know any Jews - there are none in my community.

>     Your friends have done well to surpress the murdering Jew who was
> responcible for the death of  20 million white Christians and have glorified
> Holahoax survivors, extorted money from every nation in the world and made
> Hitler's six million (sic) dead Jews seem like a terrible thing.

I do not know what "friends" you refer to, but the Stalinist murders are very
well documented, no matter how eagerly you wish people to believe the contrary.

I see no evidence of any "hoax," nor have you presented any. If you have some to
offer, by all means, do.

>     What you need to do is quit guessing because when all is said and done,
> God's children will prevail and we all know who wins in the end. To bad you
> read the Talmud, it doesn't tell you the TRUTH. You have a chance to turn

I've never read the Talmud.

> from your wicked race, I mean ways and make a real change. By the way why

My "wicked race" is Homo Sapiens. Which one do you belong to?

> don't you try to find me a good used Talmud for about $10.00.

Why buy a used one, when you can get a new one at any bookstore... Amazon
Ausctions has a used one for sale right now - the current bid is $15, but it goes
in 2 days. If you hurry, you can probably get it for $10.

You're welcome.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: More Conjecture
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 12:13:17 -0700
From: Herb Gorman 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

Jeanne-Marie Zimmerman wrote:

> Me: For the predominant Jewish role in what happened in the Soviet Union
> during this time, Nizkor will never condemn them. Simon Weasenthal will
> never condemn them. Elie the Weasel will never condemn them. Morris the
> Sleaze will never condemn them. But they will all whine about the growth of
> "anti-'Semitism.'"

That's funny, because I've found articles on nizkor that *do* condemn them. I
guess you haven't looked very hard.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Zyklon-B:Jewish Development
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 12:15:47 -0700
From: Herb Gorman 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

SNEADSTER@aol.com wrote:

> Gorman,
>     Your lack of reasoning is overwhelming...the allied forces were bombing
> all of the German refineries and fuel was being rationed! Believe me, a
> bullet was and is today a lot cheaper than the method you speak of.

Actually, bullets were not "a lot cheaper," because bullets were not the only
consideration. There were many others, as you would know if you had looked into
the matter at all.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Jewish Control
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 14:23:03 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=463
> In a message dated 8/29/99 1:05:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> philnancy@aol.com writes:
>
> << The death camps were under German control, not in Soviet controlled
>  Europe. Jews do not control any killing machine and your figure of 66
>  million is unsupportable, as is your contention they were all
Christian.
> Your charge of fabricated atrocity is noticeably without evidence. >>
>
>
>     The key word is "were"  meaning past tense and speaking of after
WWII and
> the partition of Europe by the United States, Britain, and the Jewish
> Controlled Soviet Union. Have you not heard of the Bolsheviks? Have
you heard
> of Lenin, Trotsky, Kaganovich,  Molotov, Solts, Rapport, Berman,
Yagoda, and
> Frenkel? All were Jews.

All of this is irrelevant to the Holocaust, who's documents and
testimonies were largely collected immediately after cessation of
wartime activities. The Soviet Union is not Jewish controlled, a notion
that would be a surprise to Mr. Stalin. Merely reciting a few names of
people you contend were Jews hardly constitutes evidence of your claim.

>     Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, a Nobel Prizewinner wrote in his opus,
The Gulag
> Archipelago, using I. A. Kurganov a Soviet statistician who had
access to the
> secret government files estimated that between the years of 1919 and
1959 at
> least 66 million died at the hands of the Communist rulers of Russia.

All of which is irrelevant to the Nazi death camps.

>     Solzhenitsyn  then affirms in, Gulag Archipelago II that the Jews
created
> and administered the organized Soviet Concentration camp system in
which tens
> of millions died.

Hogwash. Have you read Solzhenitsyn?  Do you own the books in question?

 You know who the leading administrators of the greatest
> killing machine in the history of the world were? Solts, Rapport,
Berman,
> Yagoda, Fenkel and Kaganovich (Twenty million himself. The Wolf of
the
> Kremlin written by his nephew Stuart Kahan 1988. page 297). Those six
Jews
> are even pictured on  page 79 of the Gulag Archipelago II.

That's Rappoport and Frenkel. But again, this is irrelevant to the Nazi
death camps.

>     Excuse me for saying that they were all Christians...but they
were
> Russian. and your lame undocumented  claims are not acceptable and
just
> because you are a Jew, you think that I am to believe you? LOL.

The history of the Holocaust is hardly undocumented, and it matters not
at all whether you believe it. It remains historical fact, untouched by
a small groups desire to disbelieve, a desire driven by a mindless
animus of a certain ethnic/religious group. You are ignorant of my own
ethnic/religious background, but your willingness to make a claim in
that regard is revealing.

Philip Mathews

> 14-88
>

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: JM: Mathews
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 14:26:07 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=464
> In a message dated 8/29/99 1:07:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> philnancy@aol.com writes:
>
> <<  Your
>  conspiracy theories are delusional.
>
>  Philip Mathews
>   >>
>
> Go look in a mirror and you will see what is delusional.

I looked, I didn't see you!

Philip Mathews

> Michael Snead
> 14-88

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: "'Civil' Wars"
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 14:31:24 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=461
> Mathews:
>
> Civil War does not mean between civilians!
> ~~~~~~~
> Me: For clarification to the list, I'm speaking to this pig slime for
just
> one moment. A Civil War does not occur between two different nations.
That
> is why it was The War between the States--The United States and the
> Confederate States.

Nonsense. It was a war between two geographic areas of one country. The
fact that one was attempted to break the union was one of the reasons
for the war, but that didn't mean it was a war between separate states.

 It was between two nations, their governments, and their
> people. A civil war is between people and their governments, so
naturally
> civilians are involved, and sometimes they fight each other.

The involvement of civilians is irrelevant to whether a war is a civil
war within a state. All soldiers are civilians, you're attempting
distinctions without significance. Interesting you choose to discuss
this side issue rather than your "views" of the Holocaust.

Philip Mathews

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Treblinka Excavations
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 14:45:32 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

The recent excavations of mass graves at the Belzec extermination camp
is hardly the first such discovery of human remains of those murdered
by the Nazis during the Holocaust. Some time ago excavations occurred
at Treblinka, whose findings are even admitted by Holocaust
"Revisionists" Andrew Allen and Mark Weber.

In an article on Treblinka (Wartime Aerial Photos of Treblinka Cast
Doubt On "Death Camp" Claims) deniers
Allen and Weber admit the existence of a single excavation which found
bodies and ash to a depth of over 20 feet.

"Jewish historian Rachel Auerbach, a member of an official Polish
commission that inspected the camp site in November 1945 -- that is, a
few months after the end of the war -- reported finding large human
bones, "rotted masses of corpses," "pieces of half-rotted corpses," and
"fully dressed" corpses, at the Treblinka camp site. (note 62)

In the area where the gas chambers were supposed to have been located,
the commission's team of 30 excavation workers reportedly found "human
remains, partially in the process of decay," and an unspecified amount
of ash. Untouched
sandy soil was reached at 7.5 meters, at which point the digging was
halted. An accompanying photograph of an excavated pit reveals some
large bones. (note 63)

Poland's "Central Commission for Investigation of German Crimes"
reported that "large quantities of ashes mixed with sand, among which
are numerous human bones, often with the remains of decomposing
tissues," were found in the five
acre (two hectare) burial area during an examination of the site
shortly after the end of the war." (note 64)

62.R. Auerbach, "In the Fields of Treblinka," in: A. Donat, ed., Death
Camp Treblinka, pp. 19, 69, 71, 72.
63.Facsimile of report, Nov. 13, 1945, in: Biuletyn Glownej Komisji...
(Warsaw), Vol. 26, 1975, pp. 183-185.
(Translation provided to the author).; Note also photo of skulls and
large bones on p. 151. This is similar to the
photo
in: A. Donat, ed., Death Camp Treblinka, p. 266.
64.Central Commission ..., German Crimes in Poland, Vol. 1, pp. 96-97.

Philip Mathews

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] HELP
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 18:14:15 EDT
From: Rose4Colby@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

Willie-
Ditto Jann186@aol.com's message for me too!
Bob

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: HELP
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 18:55:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: Norse_Knight@webtv.net (Norse Knight)
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com
CC: Jann186@aol.com

Jann,

 Don't give up...this happens on most lists. They go away if ignored.

God Bless,

Robert Paul

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
                                  [Image]

                       Click to subscribe to Holy_War
  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
                    [It's a Free World]It's a Free World
eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: HELP
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 19:01:50 -0400
From: Charles 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

Norse Knight wrote:
>
> Jann,
>
>  Don't give up...this happens on most lists. They go away if ignored.
>
> God Bless,
>
> Robert Paul
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

  Yeah if youi don't like reading somethings , just delete them hehehe!
it works for me :) Please stay !

Charles

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Fwd: [AdAstra] BIOLOGICAL DEGRADATION
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 19:11:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: Norse_Knight@webtv.net (Norse Knight)
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

>From another list...

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
                                  [Image]

                       Click to subscribe to Holy_War
  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                [click here]
                                Click Here!
eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: [AdAstra] BIOLOGICAL DEGRADATION
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 99 22:10:53 GMT
From: "Jabriol" 
Reply-To: AdAstra@onelist.com
To: 

From: "Jabriol" 

From: "Duane." 

As the influence of natural selection diminished, a sinister counter
influence asserted itself In man, as in every other form of life, harmful
mutations occur far more frequently than beneficial ones. Indeed, more than
99 percent of all mutations are harmful.

The injurious character of most mutants is not an attestation of inherent
perverseness in nature. A change in a gene is expected to be injurious for
the same reason for which random rearrangements of wires in a radio set
would spoil it more often than improve it.

Natural selection, when not interfered with, tends to weed out the many
harmful mistakes in the innate character of organisms. If they are not
weeded out, they can multiply in succeeding generations. When this occurs,
the result is a cumulative increase of inferior traits.

Natural selection of this primeval variety is today completely incompatible
with happiness, sympathy, or civilization itself. The only adequate
alternative to it, however is some kind of thoroughgoing eugenics. . . .
Failing this, a biological deterioration of the human race seems to be
inevitable, and this might even endanger the dominance of man as a species .

As the influence of natural selection waned, the influence of harmful
mutations-including those in the direction of reduced brain capability-grew
at an accelerating rate. After the establishment of cities and the
protection from the hazards of nature which they provided, the number of the
less capable and the incapable, thanks to their relatively uninhibited rate
of reproduction, began to multiply prodigiously. Also, the ever larger
population pools, rural or urban, were further augmented by the retrograde
mutations and unfortunate genetic combinations which occasionally occur in
the offspring of the more intelligent. As a result, we have today reached a
condition in which those of mediocre or less than mediocre mentality
outnumber all others to a far greater extent than ever before.

Obviously this dilution of intelligence cannot go on, generation after
generation, without seriously affecting the nature of man. It is like the
encroachment of weeds upon a once well-tended garden. Since it doesn't
happen overnight, it is easily overlooked. Yet the effect is there, and it
is being compounded. It could not be otherwise. Man does not happen to be an
exception to biological laws. Quantitatively, he is an enormous success.
Qualitatively, he is retrogressing. Much the same result can be expected
when any type of organism, freed from the process of natural selection,
continues to breed indiscriminately.

All improvers of plants and animals contend with this fundamental problem of
degradation. The Second Law of Thermodynamics states that all systems tend
to run down. Life itself tends to follow the inexorable dictates of entropy,
and the process of degradation is accelerated by the presence of harmful
mutations.

Natural selection, which has been described as "a process for generating
improbability," has been the great counterforce to the Second Law. It drives
organic matter toward more complex, higher-energy life forms. Natural
selection chooses for survival the advantageous mutations-the beneficial
rare exceptions to the rule which reverse the degradation process. When the
winnowing of the weak is not sufficiently rigorous, however, the Second Law
operates with few or no constraints.

It is against this background that we must consider the consequences of
man's present violation of the basic laws of biological development.

Birth Control
Before human beings realized that pregnancy followed sexual union, almost
everyone indulged in sex as often as circumstances permitted. This is still
true of some aborigines, who even today do not comprehend the correlation.
But with the domestication of grazing animals many thousands of years ago,
men and women were able to observe the sexual activities of their herds.
This experience allowed the intellectually curious to deduce the causes of
conception, which knowledge led directly to ways of forestalling pregnancy
in humans. The most common techniques were abstention, continence and
celibacy. Later it was realized that these monastic approaches were not
necessary, provided spermatozoa were prevented from meeting ova. Other
means, including abortion, began to be practiced. As information about
contraception spread, those with the intelligence and self-control to make
the most effective use of it were the most successful in reducing the number
of their children. Eventually this practice had a tremendous influence on
human quality. To the abnormal increase of the less intelligent was added an
artificial reduction in the number of the more intelligent.
The tendency of civilized life to sterilize its ablest citizens . . . is the
experience of nearly all countries which enjoy even a passable degree of
prosperity. It is perhaps more marked now than ever before, but it has
certainly occurred at other periods of history. For example, the earlier
Roman emperors were continually in difficulty because of the extinction of
the senatorial families, which were the class whose administrative ability
had been so largely responsible for the creation of the Roman Empire.

Ancient Egyptians were familiar with various methods of birth control.
Abstention from intercourse during the days of ovulation, which has received
much attention in recent years, was taught in ancient Greece. Infibulation
(mechanical prevention of copulation) was well known in ancient Rome, as
were condoms and vaginal douches. In general, contraceptive measures became
more efficient and more widely used in the highly urbanized states. One of
the latest advances in this dubious technology is, of course, the Pill. (It
should be noted here that a good mind offers its possessor a wealth of
outside interests that are almost as engrossing as sex, while those with
more limited minds are more likely to make sex their major concern.
Consequently, the less intelligent have a constitutional advantage over the
more intelligent in regard to having the most offspring.)

The day that man learned the cause and prevention of pregnancy was one of
the darkest in human evolution. It was then that artificial selection by
differential birthrate began to make inroads on natural selection by
differential death rate. Birth control may some day save us from worldwide
starvation. There may even come a time when it can serve to raise rather
than lower human quality. But so far it has been almost wholly pernicious in
its effect upon the biological progress of Homo Sapiens.

The most intelligent individuals, on the average, breed least, and do not
breed enough to keep their numbers constant. Unless new incentives are
discovered to induce them to breed, they will soon not be sufficiently
numerous to supply the intelligence needed for maintaining a highly
technical and elaborate system-meanwhile, we must expect that each
generation will be congenitally stupider than its predecessor. This is a
grave prospect.

The trend toward the practice of birth control was, and is, stronger in some
races and population groups than in others. Exceptionally capable people,
living in a predominantly agricultural society like 17th and 18th century
England and Anglo-America, where children were an economic advantage,
markedly increased the intelligence gradient of the population. For example,
in the colonial era in America each married white woman had an average of
eight children. Today, although throughout most of human history it was
considered unnatural to have small families, it has actually become stylish
to do so. It doesn't take brains to have a child. This is an act that can
easily be accomplished by the lowliest animals. Unfortunately, it does take
a certain amount of intelligence to avoid having children.

Another damaging influence on human intelligence has been exerted by recent
advances in physics and chemistry. Exposure of the reproductive organs to
x-rays, radioactivity and hallucinatory drugs increases the occurrence of
harmful mutations.

The rate at which mutations are damaging mankind is widely debated. At
present it is impossible to give an accurate figure. But as one Nobel
laureate tells us: I am unhappy that the pool of human germ plasm, which
determines the nature of the human race, is deteriorating. The collection of
molecules of deoxyribonucleic acid that will make the next generation of
human beings what it will be is not so good as that which determined our
character; there are more bad molecules in the collection. The defective
genes are now not being eliminated from the pool of human germ plasm so
rapidly as in the past, because we have made medical progress and have
developed feelings of compassion such as to make it possible for us to
permit the individuals who carry the bad genes to have more progeny than in
the past. Moreover, defective genes are being manufactured at a greater rate
than in the past, because there are new mutagenic agents operating in the
world today.

It might be supposed that man, having ascended the evolutionary ladder
through beneficial mutations, would profit from an increased mutation rate.
But it doesn't work out that way. Except for resistance to certain diseases,
natural selection, now largely inoperative, no longer selectively preserves
the advantageous mutations and eliminates the bad.

The sinister and pervasive influences reviewed in this chapter appear in
each new generation to produce an ever greater component of human
mediocrity. Though most of the intelligent classes are presently addicted to
birth control, a small proportion of highly capable individuals, by means of
the vast communications networks at their disposal, can still advance
knowledge and technology. Consequently science can still move forward at a
breathtaking pace despite the overall decline in human mental resources.

Man is wasting a magnificent inheritance. He is able to control the
development of other creatures, yet he has not chosen to control his own.
Man's greatest enemy is now man himself.

We can face this dilemma with the happy-go-lucky attitude of the big spender
who likes to say, "We aren't bankrupt yet." Or we can act with the foresight
and speed of the capable administrator who knows if he doesn't stop
short-term evils, they will lead to long-term disasters.
________________________________________________________
NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet.  Shouldn't you?
Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at
http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html

--------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ----------------------------

Congrats to our GROW TO GIVE winners, ZENtertainment & ROTInews!
http://www.onelist.com
Check out ONElist's latest program, FRIENDS & FAMILY.  See homepage.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ad Astra is not affiliated with any political or religious organization, and will summarily unsubscribe any individual promulgating theories of social engineering based solely on age, gender, nationality, race, belief system, sexual preference, or any other arbitrary criterion.
****************************************
Please send all personal flames directly to the author of this
message, NOT to the list!!!!!

Subject: [13texan] Re: HELP
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 19:26:36 -0400
From: William Seitzinger 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

The Infiltrators are achieving their purposes. The have once again divided
the Christians with the silly jew disputes they have gotten Christians
involved with. Responding to Holly-Hoax believes with words of wisdom is
like casting your pearls before swine. These people did not join this list
to learn about the Holly-Hoax, they joined to disrupt the list and to
destroy it. and they are unfortunately for the Christians succeeding.
SMARTEN UP SHEEP STOP RESPONDING TO THESE INFILTRATORS.

Brother Bill

Jann186@aol.com wrote:

>
> Willie...think it about time to leave this group...they are getting on my
  nerves, please unsubscribe me from this list ONLY.......PLEASE continue to
  send the materials that you have been sending me for the last couple of
  years.........I appreciate your efforts but this group is "nuts" and can't
  take their nonsense any longer.  Thank you

  jann

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>                [Vote, MTV Video Music Awards: vma.mtv.com]

> eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
> www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                [click here]
                                Click Here!
eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: HELP
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 19:27:28 -0400
From: William Seitzinger 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

AMEN!!!

Charles wrote:

>
> Norse Knight wrote:
  >
  > Jann,
  >
  >  Don't give up...this happens on most lists. They go away if ignored.
  >
  > God Bless,
  >
  > Robert Paul
  >
  > ------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Yeah if youi don't like reading somethings , just delete them hehehe!
  it works for me :) Please stay !

  Charles

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>                               [click here]
>                                Click Here!
> eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
> www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                [click here]
                                Click Here!
eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Dear Rev.
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 19:34:23 -0400
From: Charles 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com, dispatch76@onelist.com


                             - DISPATCH "83" -

   DID THIS CONVERSATION TAKE PLACE IN ONE OF THE ZIONIST CONTROLLED
   TAX EXEMPT, GOVERNMENT SUPPORTED ESTABLISHMENT CHURCH'S YOU ATTEND?

MEMBER:    Reverend, you said in your sermon this morning, that the
           jews were "God's chosen people". Tell me sir, who was the
           first jew?

REVEREND:  Abramwas the first jew.

MEMBER:    Then who was the second jew?

REVEREND:  Isaac was the second jew.

MEMBER:    Well then , who was the third jew?

REVEREND:  Esau was the third jew, who was the twin brother of Jacob,
           who was the forth jew.

MEMBER:    Reverend, if Abram was the first jew, wouldn't Ishmael his
           first born son be the second jew instead of Isaac? Genesis
           16:15

REVEREND:  No, because Ishmael was born of Hagar, an Egyptian woman.
           Gen. 16: 3

MEMBER:    Then Ishmael was a half jew?

REVEREND:  No, Ishmael was the father of twelve princes,Genesis 17:20,
           and we know them today as the Arab nations, not as jews.

MEMBER:    In other words, Ishmael was not a Jew because his mother
           Hagar was not a jew.

REVEREND:  That's right. If Hagar had been a Jew, then Ishmael would
           have been a jew instead of father of the Arab nations.

MEMBER:

  Well reverend, if Ishmael could not have been a jew because his
  mother was not a jew, then how could Isaac have been a jew since
  his mother was Sarai of the Chaldees? Now if she was a jew, then
  her parents must have been jews, Genesis 11:28, and therefor Abram
  could not have been the first jew. In fact reverend, I don't know
  how you can preach that Abram, Isaac or Jacob were jews since the
  King James Bible does not call them jews. In fact reverend, knowhere
  in the Bible will you find that Moses was a jew, or that King Saul,
  David or Solomon were called jews. Try as you may, you can read over
  five hundred pages of the Holy Bible and not find the word jew. The
  first time you will see it is in 2nd Kings 16:6. And by the way,
  nowhere in the Holy Bible will you find the jew's called God's chosen
  people.

  I would suggest that next Sunday morning you tell our congregation
  where you got the authority to change the Holy Bible, or admit the
  seminary taught you wrong, and that as a result of that false training,
  you have been preaching the error, which amounts to a false doctrine.

                                                 In Christ, Amen.
                                                  John Standring


              "PERMISSION GRANTED TO REPRODUCE AND DISTRIBUTE"










------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: HELP
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 19:35:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: Norse_Knight@webtv.net (Norse Knight)
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com
CC: WSEITZINGER@worldnet.att.net

>From: WSEITZINGER@worldnet.att.net (William Seitzinger)

>"SMARTEN UP SHEEP STOP RESPONDING TO THESE INFILTRATORS."

Words from on High, Brother Bill.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
                                  [Image]

                       Click to subscribe to Holy_War
  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
                        [Onvia.com. Work. Wisely.]

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: HELP
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 19:35:29 -0400 (EDT)
From: maxwell99@webtv.net (Colleen Jones)
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

Yes Jann stay - the delete key really works.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Dear Rev.
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 19:43:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: Norse_Knight@webtv.net (Norse Knight)
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com
CC: dispatch76@onelist.com

This "Reverend", no doubt, runs a 501(c) corporation instead pastoring
(sp?) a church. The Devils own...

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
                                  [Image]

                       Click to subscribe to Holy_War
  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                [click here]
                                Click Here!
eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: [13texan] Dear Rev.
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 19:34:23 -0400
From: Charles 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com, dispatch76@onelist.com


                             - DISPATCH "83" -

   DID THIS CONVERSATION TAKE PLACE IN ONE OF THE ZIONIST CONTROLLED
   TAX EXEMPT, GOVERNMENT SUPPORTED ESTABLISHMENT CHURCH'S YOU ATTEND?

MEMBER:    Reverend, you said in your sermon this morning, that the
           jews were "God's chosen people". Tell me sir, who was the
           first jew?

REVEREND:  Abramwas the first jew.

MEMBER:    Then who was the second jew?

REVEREND:  Isaac was the second jew.

MEMBER:    Well then , who was the third jew?

REVEREND:  Esau was the third jew, who was the twin brother of Jacob,
           who was the forth jew.

MEMBER:    Reverend, if Abram was the first jew, wouldn't Ishmael his
           first born son be the second jew instead of Isaac? Genesis
           16:15

REVEREND:  No, because Ishmael was born of Hagar, an Egyptian woman.
           Gen. 16: 3

MEMBER:    Then Ishmael was a half jew?

REVEREND:  No, Ishmael was the father of twelve princes,Genesis 17:20,
           and we know them today as the Arab nations, not as jews.

MEMBER:    In other words, Ishmael was not a Jew because his mother
           Hagar was not a jew.

REVEREND:  That's right. If Hagar had been a Jew, then Ishmael would
           have been a jew instead of father of the Arab nations.

MEMBER:

  Well reverend, if Ishmael could not have been a jew because his
  mother was not a jew, then how could Isaac have been a jew since
  his mother was Sarai of the Chaldees? Now if she was a jew, then
  her parents must have been jews, Genesis 11:28, and therefor Abram
  could not have been the first jew. In fact reverend, I don't know
  how you can preach that Abram, Isaac or Jacob were jews since the
  King James Bible does not call them jews. In fact reverend, knowhere
  in the Bible will you find that Moses was a jew, or that King Saul,
  David or Solomon were called jews. Try as you may, you can read over
  five hundred pages of the Holy Bible and not find the word jew. The
  first time you will see it is in 2nd Kings 16:6. And by the way,
  nowhere in the Holy Bible will you find the jew's called God's chosen
  people.

  I would suggest that next Sunday morning you tell our congregation
  where you got the authority to change the Holy Bible, or admit the
  seminary taught you wrong, and that as a result of that false training,
  you have been preaching the error, which amounts to a false doctrine.

                                                 In Christ, Amen.
                                                  John Standring


              "PERMISSION GRANTED TO REPRODUCE AND DISTRIBUTE"










------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] KHAZAR JEWS
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 19:46:53 -0400
From: Charles 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

Willie let them debate the Khazar jews trying to pretend
to be Israel... in this Unholy hoax they by their own
word prove they are not  nor have they ever been Israel!

Charles

BTW they have also been popping on and off my list
like frogs on a hot rock !

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: KHAZAR JEWS
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 19:49:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: Norse_Knight@webtv.net (Norse Knight)
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

>From: dogpatch@bellsouth.net (Charles)

>"BTW they have also been popping on and off my list like frogs on a hot
rock !"

I've noticed that .

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
                                  [Image]

                       Click to subscribe to Holy_War
  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                [click here]
                                Click Here!
eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] anyone want to chat live ?
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 20:02:58 -0400
From: Charles 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com, dispatch76@onelist.com

I have set up a chat room on my website
it is easy to use and you don't need passwords
or secret codes hehehe! Just any name will work :)
Charles
http://lostsheep.homepage.com/chat.html

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: HELP
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 20:13:16 EDT
From: Jann186@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

This just a time of dividing the Sheep from the Goats.....I don't have time
to "play with these Goats.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] The Jews Abraham and Sara
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 20:22:42 -0400
From: William Seitzinger 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com

http://www.christianbiblestudy.org/CBS/_CBSOPS/jewabram.html

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------

                 DID THIS CONVERSATION TAKE PLACE IN ONE OF THE ZIONIST
     CONTROLLED TAX EXEMPT, GOVERNMENT SUPPORTED ESTABLISHMENT CHURCH'S
                                 YOU ATTEND?


      MEMBER:    Reverend, you said in your sermon this morning, that
     the jews were "God's chosen people". Tell me sir, who was the
     first jew?

      REVEREND:  Abramwas the first jew.

      MEMBER:    Then who was the second jew?

      REVEREND:  Isaac was the second jew.

      MEMBER:    Well then , who was the third jew?

      REVEREND:  Esau was the third jew, who was the twin brother of
     Jacob, who was the forth jew.

      MEMBER:    Reverend, if Abram was the first jew, wouldn't Ishmael
     his first born son be the second jew instead of Isaac? Genesis
     16:15

      REVEREND:  No, because Ishmael was born of Hagar, an Egyptian
     woman. Gen. 16: 3

      MEMBER:    Then Ishmael was a half jew?

      REVEREND:  No, Ishmael was the father of twelve princes,Genesis
     17:20,  and we know them today as the Arab nations, not as jews.

      MEMBER:    In other words, Ishmael was not a Jew because his
     mother Hagar was not a jew.

      REVEREND:  That's right. If Hagar had been a Jew, then Ishmael
     would have been a jew instead of father of the Arab nations.

      MEMBER: Well reverend, if Ishmael could not have been a jew
     because his mother was not a jew, then how could Isaac have been a
     jew since his mother was Sarai of the Chaldees? Now if she was a
     jew, then her parents must have been jews, Genesis 11:28, and
     therefor Abram could not have been the first jew. In fact
     reverend, I don't know how you can preach that Abram, Isaac or
     Jacob were jews since the King James Bible does not call them
     jews. In fact reverend, knowhere in the Bible will you find that
     Moses was a jew, or that King Saul, David or Solomon were called
     jews. Try as you may, you can read over five hundred pages of the
     Holy Bible and not find the word jew. The first time you will see
     it is in 2nd Kings 16:6. And by the way, nowhere in the Holy Bible
     will you find the jew's called God's chosen people.

     I would suggest that next Sunday morning you tell our congregation
     where you got the authority to change the Holy Bible, or admit the
     seminary taught you wrong, and that as a result of that false
     training, you have been preaching the error, which amounts to a
     false doctrine.

     In Christ, Amen.
     John Standring

              "PERMISSION GRANTED TO REPRODUCE AND DISTRIBUTE"
     ------------------------------------------------------------------

  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                [click here]
                                Click Here!
eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] "...the beauty of your chosen people"
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 18:07:29 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

We recognize today
That many centuries of blindness
Have veiled our eyes,
So that we no longer see the beauty of your chosen people
And no longer recognize the features
Of our firstborn brother.
We know now that the Mark of Cain is on our forehead.
Over the course of centuries our brother Abel
Has lain in blood we have spilled,
Because we forgot your love.
Forgive us for the curse
Which we unjustly placed on the name of the Jews.
Forgive us,
For crucifying you a second time.
For we knew not what we were doing.

Pope John XXIII


Philip Mathews

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: "...the beauty of your chosen people"
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 18:37:02 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=491
>
> Now what are you doing, Androgyne?  Are you invoking the words
> of a Pope as if he were the spokesman for all Christians?

He is the spokesman for more Christians than any other on earth.

 Or, are
> you trying to demonstrate the effectiveness of concerted Jewish
> efforts against anything perceived to be detrimental to their group,
> of which one has historically been Catholicism?
>

There is no concerted Jewish effort against the Catholic church. The
history you speak of is long gone, and the modern church, along with
truly religious people everywhere, reject the racial, ethnic and
religious hatreds which for so long created artificial differences
between human beings. Those clinging to these differences are but a
small fringe, increasingly anachronistic all over the world.

Philip Mathews

> Reiv
>
> On 29 Aug 99, at 18:07, philnancy@aol.com wrote:
>
> > We recognize today
> > That many centuries of blindness
> > Have veiled our eyes,
> > So that we no longer see the beauty of your chosen people
> > And no longer recognize the features
> > Of our firstborn brother.
> > We know now that the Mark of Cain is on our forehead.
> > Over the course of centuries our brother Abel
> > Has lain in blood we have spilled,
> > Because we forgot your love.
> > Forgive us for the curse
> > Which we unjustly placed on the name of the Jews.
> > Forgive us,
> > For crucifying you a second time.
> > For we knew not what we were doing.
> >
> > Pope John XXIII
> > 
> >
> >
> > Philip Mathews
> >
> >
> >
> >

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Poland: Mass Graves?
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 23:32:43 EDT
From: SNEADSTER@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

In a message dated 8/29/99 3:48:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gormanh@home.com
writes:

<< because the Nazis knew that many would die that way, and that suited their
 purpose. >>

    Now you know what the Nazis knew? That is amazing how smart the Jews
think that they are. That is why Jews invent awards, to give themselves
praise!
    If you will note, That there are few people who trust the media, and who
controls the media? JEWS
Michael Snead
14/88

In a message dated 8/29/99 3:48:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gormanh@home.com
writes:

<< The Nazis, of course, did not die of typhus at the camps, nor did they
starve
to death as their victims did. >>

You know without a shadow of a doubt that the Nazis didn't die of typhus? Nor
did they starve to death? I can prove other wise but why share my wealth of
information to a vague person such as yourself? When you can provide me with
more information than you have other than typing to see yourself type, then I
will educate you.
Michael Snead
14/88



------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] DISPATCH 76-77 BY: STANDRING
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 23:50:08 -0400
From: Charles 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

--
http://lostsheep.homepage.com
http://members.xoom.com/dog_patch

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] DISPATCH 76-77 BY: STANDRING
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 23:52:04 -0400
From: Charles 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

--
http://lostsheep.homepage.com
http://members.xoom.com/dog_patch

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
                               DISPATCH 76-77
  ------------------------------------------------------------------------

                           WHO WAS THE FIRST JEW

We know that Smil was the first king of Israel, end that John was the first
man called Baptist. But who was the first Jews Neither Adam,Seth or Noah are
called Jews. Nor were Abraham, Isaac or Jacob. Moses was not called a Jew
and neither were Saul, David or Solomon called Jews. You won't rind the word
Jew in the First eleven books of the Bible.

THE FIRST TIME JEWS ARE MENTIONED IN THEBIBLE,IS IN 2ND KINGS 16:6, WHERE WE
FIND THE SYRIANS WHO WERE AlLIED WITH ISRAEL " AND DRAVE THE JEWS FROM
ELATH."

Isn't it interesting that we can read over five hundred pages of God1s word
before we find Mr. Jew. Moses as we know, wrote the first five books of the
Bible He wandered through the wilderness for forty years, and he couldn't
find a Jew anywhere. Yet those who call themselves Jews today claim the
first five books of the Bible, and call it their Torah. We find it very
strange that those who say they are Jews, claim five books of the Bible,
none of which mentions the word Jew. Jesus Christ tells John in Revelation
2:9 "I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but
are the SYNAGOGE OF SATAN."

We know that God changed the name of Abram to Abraham, Genesis 17:5, and
that God changed the name of Jacob to Israel Genesis 32:28, but no-where in
the Bible do we find that God changed the name of Israel to Jew. THEREFORE
THERE IS NO AUTHORITY BY WHICH THOSE WHO SAY THEY ARE JEWS CAN CLAIM TO BE
ISRAEL."

By the time of Jesus, the word Edom and Edo~ite had been translated by Greek
and Latin into Idumae a-Ioudaios-Iudaeus, also including in this meaning
were the terms Judea-Judean, or persons living in Judea. The original King
James version of the Bible, 1611, translated Idumaean-Judean into lewes. It
wasn't until the revised editions of the King James Bible, that the word Jew
appeared. The word Jew does not mean Israel or Israelite. We must therefore
conclude that the first Jews were Canaanite-Edomite-Hittite. It is certain,
according to the Bible, that these Jews are not Israel. You will find in 2nd
Chronicles 13:16-17 that Israel and Judah were at war, and Judeh slew
500,000 men of Israel. Israel was the northern kingdon, and had seperated
from Judab who remained in the south.

  ------------------------------------------------------------------------

                          WHO IS LEGITIMATE ISRAEL

In 2nd Kings 17:6 we find that Israel has been taken into captivity by the
Assyrians. Many claim that this was the end of the ten tribe's of Israel who
had separated from Judah, but in Hoses 12:1 we find that the Isrselites were
alive and well, and had en- tered into a covenant with the Assyrians. They
were to follow the east wind which would take them through the Caucasus
mount- ains and into western Europe, where they would become known as
Caucasian people, fulfilling the prophecy of Nathan to David in 2nd. Samuel
7:10, that God would take Israel out of Palestine and plant them in a place
of their own. These Israelite-Caucasians founded the west -ern nations of
Germany, France, England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Scandinavia, and were
later converted to Christianity, for Jesus told his deciples in Matthew 10:
5-6, "Go not into the way of the Gentiles, but go rather to the lost sheep
of the house of Israel. They did, and the White Caucasian Israelite
countries became known as the Christian nations of Europe. The Jews csnnot
be Israel, for in John 8: 33 they admit they had never been in bond- age. We
know that only legitimate Israel was in Egyptian.and Assyrian captivity.
Jesus told the Jews in John 8:42 "If God were your Father, ye would love me.
Jesus also told them in John 10:26, 11Ye are not my sheep." In verse 27 He
says, "My sheep hear my voice and follow me.'? It is the White Caucasian
Israelite who heard the voice of Christ and became Christian. We White
Causasians and kindred peoples who live in America, Canada and other
countries al~o heard the voice of Christ and becuiie Christian. It is we who
are legitimat. Isr- ael. It is we who have the promise. It is we who are
spoken of in the Bible, end it is with our ancestors Abaraham, Isaac and
Jacob that God made a covenant, and the in- heritance He promised is ours if
we obey His laws. Don't ever let anyone tell you that Jesus did away with
the laws of the old testament. Jesus said in }latthew 5:17, "I have not come
to destroy the law, but to fulfill." Therefore we who are legitimate Israel
are still under the lav, and must obey or suffer puninishment. America is
the great and mighty nation that Abraham was to become, and his household
after him are to keep the way' of the Lord. Genesis8:18-19.

  ------------------------------------------------------------------------

                              GODS CHOSEN FAKES

The encyclopedia Judaica, published by Macmillan Company, Volume 10, page
94, states in part, "KHAZARS, a people who lived between the Caspian and
Black seas in what is n~ Russia, and may have belon- ged to the Empire of
the Thins, were con- verted to JUDAISM under their Bulan and Obadiah in the
8th. centurv A.D." At the time of this conversion, the nation of Khazaria
constituted the largest land mass in Europe. These Khazars imported rabbis
to instruct them in hebrew let- ters, as they had no written alphabet for
their Yiddish language which they still use. They practice and live by
Babylonian Talmudism, which is the tradition of the elders that Jesus Christ
spoke against. These Khasars who became Jews 800 years after Christ, trace
their ancestry to Japheth through Gomer and Ashkenaze See Genesis lO:2-3
They are known today as Ashkenazim Jews, and constitute the vast majority of
so called Jews in the world today, tho their ancestors never set foot in
Palestine and are not Semetic, These are the people who have occupied Pales-
time which they have mis-named Israel ful- filling a prophecy of Daniel in
Matthew 24:15 of "THE ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION STANDING IN THE HOLY PLACE."
Our support of this bandit state that has murdered and expelled by force the
Arab population, constitutes being "unequally yoked with unrighteousness,
2nd. Corinthians 6:14. We fly in the face of God when we support those who,
"confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and
an antichrist." 2nd. John 7. We would do well to remmber that the Arabs are
decended from Abrahsm through Ishmael and we legitimate semites. It is the
Khasar Japhethites, who claim to be Israelites and are not,who are the
anti-semites. What a shame that millions of young White

  ------------------------------------------------------------------------

                             THE CAUSIAN EMPIRE

Christians graduate from our public school system each year, ignorant of
these facts about the Khazars. How is it possible for our school boards,
education associations principals and teachers to refrain from teaching our
young people about one of the most important historical events. We must
wonder if this omission is by accident or design. Those students and parents
who want to know more about the Kingdom of the Khazars, should read the
Encyclopedia Bri- tannica in the local or school library. The Caucasian
people are a minority in the world population, and fast becoming so in
America. Mass immigration by non-White and anti-Christian elements has
eroded White Christian voting power to the danger point. Already our young
White people are begin- ning to see the handwriting on the wall. Few of them
can afford to buy a house, and Mr. Alien has taken many of the jobs. Our
young people are forced to pay high taxes which keeps them broke and to
subsidise those who won't work. They' also face being drafted and placed
under a variety of non- Caucasians who care more for their own race than
they do for White Christians. It is time our young White people under- stood
that the future of White Civilisat- ion is in their hands, and that they
have been misinformed and misled by their eld- ers, who may not have known
better, or were afraid to take a stand for fear of losing their jobs,
business or pensions. We are told in Luke 19:13 to "Occupy till I come."
This means elect our own people to public office. In Luke 22:36 Jesus told
his disciples,"he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one."
This tells us to arm ourselves. Exodus 18:21 instructs us to appoint "able
men to lead ten, fifty, hundreds, thousands." Young White men who read this
should get busy and establish a Christian Identity Church.

                         WRITTEN BY: JOHN STANDRING

             "PERMISSION GRANTED TO REPRODUCE AND DISTRIBUTE "

  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                [click here]
                                Click Here!
eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Doubting Thomases
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 00:09:12 EDT
From: SNEADSTER@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

HERB,
         The estimates have been lowered twice because of the bad estimates
and was never advertised. In 1949 it was reported by the media that 15
million Jews were murdered. Then from the census that had been taken in 1940
through out Europe there was only 18 million Jews in all of Europe!  With the
Census of 1950 of all of Europe there was 15 million Jews and 2 million had
came to the United States  from 1940-1950 and just over 650,000 to Jerusalem
and Telaviv. Get your calculator out Herbie and tell me that the Nazis killed
6 million Jews and I will have to call you a Liar!!!
    By 1956 the Jewish controlled publication firms had quietly lowered the
Holohoax number to 7 million and tried desperately to fudge the numbers of
the census but that was too late.  In 1971 the history books were  saying
that the estimated number of Jews killed in the Holohoax was 6 million.
    The true number of deaths in the Holohoax at the 20 concentration camps
was 155,694 with each documented death stemming from Disease, natural causes,
and of course the firing squad for the trouble makers.
Michael Snead
14/88

In a message dated 8/29/99 3:44:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gormanh@home.com
writes:

<< The figure of 6 million will be increased, not lowered, if evidence
currently
 coming to light since the fall of the Soviet Union is any indication - at
least
 that's what a lot of historians are telling us. There is no indication,
anywhere
 but in your imagination, that the estimates are going to be lowered. >>

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Doubting Thomases
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 00:23:26 EDT
From: SNEADSTER@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

In a message dated 8/29/99 3:44:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gormanh@home.com
writes:

Michael Snead writes:
<< > Simon Wiesenthal who cut his wrists to end his life and woke up in the
 > infirmary being nursed back to health by those mean ole Nazis?

Herb Gorman writes:
 The war is full of stories like that... the good, the bad, the ugly. How do
you
 feel it "proves" that the Holocaust did not happen? >>

Michael Snead writes:
In the book written by Wiesenthal,  Murderers Among Us  published in 1967 in
NY by McGraw-Hill you can read of his suicide attempt.
Herb if you want to read a book full of facts get My Awakening written by
David Duke published in December 1998 and sold 50,000 copies by March and
went to publication again. so the truth is getting out there and once it
does....your filthy lies will be laughed at.
Michael Snead
14/88

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: HELP
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 22:58:41 -0700
From: Herb Gorman 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com


William Seitzinger wrote:

> The Infiltrators are achieving their purposes. The have once again divided
> the Christians with the silly jew disputes they have gotten Christians
> involved with. Responding to Holly-Hoax believes with words of wisdom is
> like casting your pearls before swine. These people did not join this list
> to learn about the Holly-Hoax, they joined to disrupt the list and to
> destroy it. and they are unfortunately for the Christians succeeding.
> SMARTEN UP SHEEP STOP RESPONDING TO THESE INFILTRATORS.

Gosh, Bill, I thought that this was a history discussion list... that's what
it says, up there on the front door. I am surprised that people don't seem
to want to discuss history on this history discussion list...

I guess if people want to use phrases like "Holly Hoax," and other silly
wordplays, that's ok, but I am surprised that these same people just keep
their blinders on when a chance comes along to actually discuss the history
behind the silly words...

Are you folks not interested in history? What on earth did you sign up on a
history list for?

Wow, that is very strange.

  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
                       [Real Guide - MP3 of the day]

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Poland: Mass Graves?
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 23:02:34 -0700
From: Herb Gorman 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

SNEADSTER@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 8/29/99 3:48:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gormanh@home.com
> writes:
>
> << because the Nazis knew that many would die that way, and that suited their
>  purpose. >>
>
>     Now you know what the Nazis knew? That is amazing how smart the Jews
> think that they are. That is why Jews invent awards, to give themselves
> praise!

Not being Jewish, I really couldn't comment.

>     If you will note, That there are few people who trust the media, and who
> controls the media? JEWS

They do? How did you determine that one? Do they control ALL of the media, or
just the American media? What about Conrad Black, Murdock, Bertelsman, and those
outfits?

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Doubting Thomases
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 23:09:34 -0700
From: Herb Gorman 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

SNEADSTER@aol.com wrote:

> HERB,
>          The estimates have been lowered twice because of the bad estimates
> and was never advertised. In 1949 it was reported by the media that 15
> million Jews were murdered. Then from the census that had been taken in 1940
> through out Europe there was only 18 million Jews in all of Europe!  With the
> Census of 1950 of all of Europe there was 15 million Jews and 2 million had
> came to the United States  from 1940-1950 and just over 650,000 to Jerusalem
> and Telaviv. Get your calculator out Herbie and tell me that the Nazis killed
> 6 million Jews and I will have to call you a Liar!!!

Can you provide me with some references to support these statements? I have found
none, and I've looked. Nizkor has a lot of stuff about this particular issue, at
http://www1.us.nizkor.org/features/techniques-of-denial/four-million-01.html, but
they don't show any such number. After all, even the Nazis only claimed that
there were going to be 11 million (NOT 15 or more) Jews under their control....
and they were pretty accurate...

>     By 1956 the Jewish controlled publication firms had quietly lowered the
> Holohoax number to 7 million and tried desperately to fudge the numbers of
> the census but that was too late.  In 1971 the history books were  saying
> that the estimated number of Jews killed in the Holohoax was 6 million.

That's funny... I've been looking at some of the published numbers, as listed at
nizkor,
http://www1.us.nizkor.org/features/techniques-of-denial/appendix-2-01.html, and
none of them are higher than 4 million, and that figure is only found among
publications from Communist sources... some of the books quoted are from 1956,
interestingly enough, so I guess your sources must be really different... can you
cite some that quoted 15 million, so I can look them up? I'd surely appreciate
that.

>     The true number of deaths in the Holohoax at the 20 concentration camps
> was 155,694 with each documented death stemming from Disease, natural causes,
> and of course the firing squad for the trouble makers.

Your source for this figure is........?

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Doubting Thomases
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 23:12:41 -0700
From: Herb Gorman 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

SNEADSTER@aol.com wrote:

> Herb Gorman writes:
>  The war is full of stories like that... the good, the bad, the ugly. How do
> you feel it "proves" that the Holocaust did not happen? >>
>
> Michael Snead writes:
> In the book written by Wiesenthal,  Murderers Among Us  published in 1967 in
> NY by McGraw-Hill you can read of his suicide attempt.

Shucks, Mike, you didn't tell me how this suicide attempt proves something about
the Holocaust... I guess you forgot.

> Herb if you want to read a book full of facts get My Awakening written by
> David Duke published in December 1998 and sold 50,000 copies by March and
> went to publication again. so the truth is getting out there and once it
> does....your filthy lies will be laughed at.

Hey, I've read some of Duke's work... I got a real chuckle out of one part, where
he lied openly about some of author David Irving's exploits...

Hey, Mike? What, er, "filthy lies" might you be referring to? Would you mind
quoting them, so I can see where I've lied? I'd sure appreciate it.

Herb

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Zyklon-B:Jewish Development
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 05:40:21 CDT
From: "David Griffin" 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

>From: pmathews@devine-pearson.com
>Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
>To: 13texan@eGroups.com
>Subject: [13texan] Re: Zyklon-B:Jewish Development
>Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:34:51 -0700
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>From 13texan-return-367-david_223 Thu Aug 26 09:36:25 1999
>Received: from [207.138.41.146] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id
>MHotMailB98EB78601C3D82197BECF8A2992454C134; Thu Aug 26 09:36:25 1999
>Received: from [10.1.2.36] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 26 Aug 1999
>17:35:05 -0000
>Mailing-List: contact 13texan-owner@egroups.com
>X-Mailing-List: 13texan@egroups.com
>X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/13texan/
>Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-13texan@eGroups.com
>Received: (qmail 8655 invoked from network); 26 Aug 1999 16:34:56 -0000
>Received: from mu.egroups.com (207.138.41.151) by qg.egroups.com with SMTP;
>26 Aug 1999 16:34:56 -0000
>Received: from [10.1.2.7] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 26 Aug 1999
>17:34:55 -0000
>Message-ID: <7q3qbb$pkc7@eGroups.com>
>In-Reply-To:  <19990826161419.60966.qmail@hotmail.com>
>User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.76
>X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster
>
>pmathew-@devine-pearson.com wrote:
>original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=383
> >
> > >Zimmermann wrote:
> > >
> > > > If you want to upset Jews, all
> > > > you have to say that IF jews have been gassed, then they have been
> > > > gassed by a poison gas which another Jew has developed.
> > >
> > >Are you saying that Jews were NOT gassed by the Nazis? Could you
> > >clarify what you meant, please?
> >
> > By gassed, we take it to mean, were they killed intentionally with
>poison
> > gas?....The answer to that is an emphatic "NO"....The gas used on jews
>was a
> > de-lousing agent.....It killed parasites and other organisms which were
> > common on the body of jews.
>
>
>The gas used to delouse and to kill Jews was called Zyklon B, Hydrogen
>Cyanide Gas embedded in a solid mass. This gas is used to this very day in
>U.S. gas chambers in capital punishment cases. The primary target in the
>delousing procedure was the lice which caused typhus, caused by the
>deplorable conditions the Nazis allowed to exist in the camps. Needless to
>say, parasites are not  common to ethnic groups.
>
>Philip Mathews

No deadly gasses were used on Jewish political prisoners....Many tests have
been done of the facilities at Aushwitz and Daukau....No proof of deadly
gasses, including cyanide, being used. ..Parasites are very common on to
some ethnic groups....World Health Organization in Switzerland will bear
testimony to this fact.

David Smith

______________________________________________________

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Jew Agenda Against Aryans
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 05:45:05 CDT
From: "David Griffin" 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

>From: pmathews@devine-pearson.com
>Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
>To: 13texan@eGroups.com
>Subject: [13texan] Re: Jew Agenda Against Aryans
>Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:53:04 -0700
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>From 13texan-return-368-david_223=hotmail.com@returns.egroups.com Thu Aug
>26 09:53:32 1999
>Received: from [10.1.2.36] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 26 Aug 1999
>17:53:16 -0000
>Mailing-List: contact 13texan-owner@egroups.com
>X-Mailing-List: 13texan@egroups.com
>X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/13texan/
>Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-13texan@eGroups.com
>Received: (qmail 27991 invoked from network); 26 Aug 1999 16:53:13 -0000
>Received: from mu.egroups.com (207.138.41.151) by qh.egroups.com with SMTP;
>26 Aug 1999 16:53:13 -0000
>Received: from [10.1.2.7] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 26 Aug 1999
>17:53:13 -0000
>Message-ID: <7q3rdg$hner@eGroups.com>
>In-Reply-To:  <19990826011644.69854.qmail@hotmail.com>
>User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.76
>X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster
>
>pmathew-@devine-pearson.com wrote:
>original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=373
> > One wrote:
> > So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate
> > all Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle
> > against Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
> > ~~~~~~~
> > Kurt said:
> > "Allowed"?  How nice of him.  Their lives were totally under his
>thumb,
> > right?  OK, so it wasn't "all".   Would you believe 99.9%?  What a
>silly
> > argument.  The ones in the prison camps were "allowed" to live, and
>did a
> > lot of the dirty work.  Do you think they got a pension?  Duh!  I
>don't
> > think it makes much difference to the friends and relatives of ones
>who were
> > murdered, thinking that they were not part of the 0.1% who were
>"allowed" to
> > live.  Get real!
> > ~~~~~~~
> > Me: Well, let's not forget that in so many of those propaganda
>pictures the
> > Jews wound up alive, like the "Warsaw Ghetto Boy." He lived to
>adulthood.
> > Amazing! And how about those pictures of German bomb victims used to
>portray
> > so-called Jewish deaths. And how about the Allies bombing German
>supply
> > trucks towards the end of the war? And what about Zionists wanting
>the camps
> > to move Jews out of Germany into Palestine or Madagascar or
>elsewhere? Now,
> > please stop with your sob stories. More Germans died in WWII than
>Jews. And
> > just why is it that the very programs that are being used to
>exterminate the
> > White race from the planet originate with Jews? Integration and White
>guilt
> > is their agenda, to mongrelize and destroy forever the Aryan people.
>
>Jews did not want Germans to move Jews to Madagascar. That was a Nazi
>pipe dream which never materialized. Germany was involved in a World
>War which it precipitated, so the fact that more Germans died of war is
>hardly equivalent to the 6 million Jews who were _murdered_ and were
>not at war.
>

Actually, when the German Jews started their boycott of German products in
the early thirties; they had declared war on their own countrymen.....This
is why it is stated that the Jews that were concentrated were political
prisoners....They were enemies of Germany, and dealt with as such; not
because they were Jews, but becasue they were treasous.....They were dealt
with as any prisoner of war, political or otherwise; Jew or otherwise.

______________________________________________________

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Slander Against Germany
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 06:34:43 CDT
From: "David Griffin" 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

>From: Ed Kadach 
>Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
>To: 13texan@egroups.com
>Subject: [13texan] Re: Slander Against Germany
>Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 17:55:49 -0600
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>From 13texan-return-373-david_223 Thu Aug 26 16:52:53 1999
>Received: from [207.138.41.146] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id
>MHotMailB98F1E540067D820F3B0CF8A299268B71; Thu Aug 26 16:52:53 1999
>Received: from [10.1.2.36] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 27 Aug 1999
>00:52:52 -0000
>Mailing-List: contact 13texan-owner@egroups.com
>X-Mailing-List: 13texan@egroups.com
>X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/13texan/
>Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-13texan@egroups.com
>Received: (qmail 12610 invoked from network); 26 Aug 1999 23:52:51 -0000
>Received: from portal.connect.ab.ca (206.75.40.10) by qg.egroups.com with
>SMTP; 26 Aug 1999 23:52:51 -0000
>Received: from edkadach (ppp054.connect.ab.ca [207.34.79.54]) by
>portal.connect.ab.ca (8.9.3/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA19625 for
><13texan@egroups.com>; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 17:45:28 -0600 (MDT)
>Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990826175549.007b3870@portal.connect.ab.ca>
>X-Sender: eddiek@portal.connect.ab.ca
>X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32)
>In-Reply-To: <7q3o1p$tdol@eGroups.com>
>References: <19990825234546.31879.qmail@hotmail.com>
>
>At 08:55 AM 8/26/99 -0700, you wrote:
> >pmathew-@devine-pearson.com wrote:
> >original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=371
> >> I wrote:
> >>
> >> If you want to upset Jews, all you have to say that IF jews have been
> >> gassed, then they have been gassed by a poison gas which another Jew
> >has
> >> developed.
> >> ~~~~~~~
> >> One asked:
> >> Are you saying that Jews were NOT gassed by the Nazis? Could you
> >> clarify what you meant, please?
> >> ~~~~~~~
> >> Me: What is there to clarify? The burden of proof is on you, not me,
> >to
> >> prove it happened. So, let's see your proof. By the way, Zyklon-B,
> >developed
> >> by a Jew, was for delousing. So, what do you say to that?
> >
> >You might as well ask him to prove the American Civil War occurred. The
> >Holocaust is a proven historical event, and the burden is on you if you
> >wish to claim it didn't occur, just as it would be your burden if you
> >decided the Civil War never happened.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> And the Germans at Nuremberg were tortured into confessions.
> >
> >
> >This assertion is not true. Perhaps you would like to present some
> >evidence for this assertion. Only a small number of the Nazis who
> >admitted the extermination of Jews were tried at Nuremberg. Many more
> >were tried at trials in various countries in the ensuing decades. In
> >any event, we shouldn't confuse trials with the writing of history.
> >Most events after all don't have trials associated with them, and yet
> >we manage to develop an understanding of them.
> >
> >
> > And by the way,
> >> I'm of German descent, and personally I'm sick and tired of the
> >slanders and
> >> lies leveled against the German people and German nation over 55
> >years after
> >> WWII. I reject them all but you can try to prove them if you will.
> >And
> >> anytime you wish to know about the merits of National Socialism, I
> >will
> >> debate the facts with you as well no matter your opinion on the
> >matter.
> >
> >The facts of the Holocaust have shown that Nazis were responsible,
> >which is not the same as accusing Germans, although some were involved.
> >Your rejection of established history is a result of your desire to
> >disbelieve, since the evidence is overwhelming. As for National
> >Socialism, it was an unmitigated disaster, and its rehabilitation,
> >although fondly wished by some, will not occur in our lifetime.
> >
> >
> >Philip Mathews
>
>
>
>Where are the mountains of ash, Mathews? Facts(?) of a supposed holocau$t?
>Hardly. All we have is the contrived evidence of exterminationists
>from a few Nizkookerites that have been mislead by McVay and the
>Zionist lobby that funds him. As McVay has stated on alt.revisionism,
>Nizkor
>has only enough funding till the end of the year and the rumour mill has
>it the usual funding will cease.(And do you blame them, he has become an
>embarrassment)
>
>
>Racialist regards,
>
>Ed Kadach

Good question, Ed....where are all those ashes....experts have stated that
it would take over 35 years to have cremated all those Jews, using the most
modern crematorian of today.....where's the bones?...where's the ashes?

David

______________________________________________________

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Slander Against Germany
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 06:42:14 CDT
From: "David Griffin" 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

PMatthews wrote:
>
>Nonsense, we have an historical event proven like any other and
>accepted by the entire historical community. The lies which are bruited
>about by those, usually of antisemitic stripe, are based on nothing
>other than the desire to deny the facts of what happened. This history
>was written long before Mr. McVay or his organization came along, and
>your attempt to reduce this to a Nizkor debate reveals the desperation
>of those who are unable to confront the weight of historical evidence.

Let's not assume there was a historical event, just because you claim
it....Let's debate it!....The Jews have been unwilling to debate the
holocaust; why is this?....Is there is so much evidence what are the Jews
afraid of?......At least they should be able to present one commuication
from one German officer to another regarding the extermination of Jews....as
meticoulous record-keepers as the Germans are, they certainly must have
written something......

Why won't colleges or talk-shows allow debate on the supposed
holocaust?....maybe because there never was such a thing.

______________________________________________________

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Mail from egroups
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 07:19:06 CDT
From: "David Griffin" 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

>From: "Willie Martin" <13texan@wavelinx.net>
>Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
>To: "LewisDent" <13texan@egroups.com>
>Subject: [13texan] Mail from egroups
>Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 09:59:57 -0500
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>From 13texan-return-376-david_223 Fri Aug 27 08:07:37 1999
>Received: from [207.138.41.146] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id
>MHotMailB98FF482000ED82197D6CF8A299288A5114; Fri Aug 27 08:07:37 1999
>Received: from [10.1.2.36] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 27 Aug 1999
>16:05:59 -0000
>Mailing-List: contact 13texan-owner@egroups.com
>X-Mailing-List: 13texan@egroups.com
>X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/13texan/
>Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-13texan@egroups.com
>Received: (qmail 20903 invoked from network); 27 Aug 1999 15:05:57 -0000
>Received: from wavelinx.net (HELO wave2.wavelinx.net) (209.140.140.10) by
>qg.egroups.com with SMTP; 27 Aug 1999 15:05:57 -0000
>Received: from 13texan (wave143.wavelinx.net [209.140.140.143]) by
>wave2.wavelinx.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id KAA20969 for
><13texan@egroups.com>; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:05:55 -0500 (CDT)
>Message-ID: <009301bef09c$ed42e060$ad8c8cd1@13texan.wavelinx.net>
>X-Priority: 3
>X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0
>X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0
>
>     If you would be so kind as to let me know if you are
>receiving this message. I cannot access the membership list on my
>egroup so I don't know if it is working at all or not.
>
>     Someone on the Sons of Liberty list said they would set me up
>on one of their lists would you please tell me how to go about
>it.
>
>     If you receive this list, please let me know. Thank you
>Willie Martin

Hi Willie,
Receiving your message fine.

David

______________________________________________________

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Burden of Proof
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 07:28:18 CDT
From: "David Griffin" 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

>From: "Jeanne-Marie Zimmerman" 
>Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
>To: 13texan@egroups.com
>Subject: [13texan] Burden of Proof
>Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 19:53:26 PDT
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>From 13texan-return-392-david_223 Fri Aug 27 19:54:06 1999
>Received: from [207.138.41.146] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id
>MHotMailB9909A060127D82197AACF8A29926E90140; Fri Aug 27 19:54:06 1999
>Received: from [10.1.2.36] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 28 Aug 1999
>03:53:28 -0000
>Mailing-List: contact 13texan-owner@egroups.com
>X-Mailing-List: 13texan@egroups.com
>X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/13texan/
>Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-13texan@egroups.com
>Received: (qmail 12678 invoked from network); 28 Aug 1999 02:53:27 -0000
>Received: from f214.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.105) by
>qh.egroups.com with SMTP; 28 Aug 1999 02:53:27 -0000
>Received: (qmail 13776 invoked by uid 0); 28 Aug 1999 02:53:26 -0000
>Message-ID: <19990828025326.13775.qmail@hotmail.com>
>Received: from 208.25.190.196 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 27 Aug
>1999 19:53:26 PDT
>X-Originating-IP: [208.25.190.196]
>
>Philip Mattews said:
>You might as well ask him to prove the American Civil War occurred. The
>Holocaust is a proven historical event, and the burden is on you if you
>wish
>to claim it didn't occur, just as it would be your burden if you decided
>the
>Civil War never happened.

Well, I know a fellow that states that he is Napolean; prove he's not.

______________________________________________________

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Doubting Thomases
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 06:19:08 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=496
> HERB,
>          The estimates have been lowered twice because of the bad
estimates
> and was never advertised. In 1949 it was reported by the media that
15
> million Jews were murdered.

I very much doubt this, but if it occurred you should remember that
historians write history, not the media. If we were suddenly start
doubting every historical event because a newspaper published a factual
error concerning one, there would be no history.

 Then from the census that had been taken in 1940
> through out Europe there was only 18 million Jews in all of Europe!
With the
> Census of 1950 of all of Europe there was 15 million Jews and 2
million had
> came to the United States  from 1940-1950 and just over 650,000 to
Jerusalem
> and Telaviv.

These figures are all incorrect. The World Almanac Recorded some 15
million Jews world-wide in 1938. In 1949, the first post war figures
which did not rely on pre-war data, the estimate was 11 million and
change. 2 million Jews did not come to the U.S. There was no
significant rise in Jewish immigration to the U.S  after the war. The
U.S. Jewish population has been fairly steady around 6 million for
decades.

Get your calculator out Herbie and tell me that the Nazis killed
> 6 million Jews and I will have to call you a Liar!!!

The Nazis killed about 6 million Jews.

>     By 1956 the Jewish controlled publication firms had quietly
lowered the
> Holohoax number to 7 million and tried desperately to fudge the
numbers of
> the census but that was too late.

False. Estimates on the number of Jews killed in the Holocaust doesn't
come from media publications, if comes from historians, who have
studied it very carefully. Jews do not control World Wide Census data!

 In 1971 the history books were  saying
> that the estimated number of Jews killed in the Holohoax was 6
million.

Which is pretty much what historians have always said.

>     The true number of deaths in the Holohoax at the 20 concentration
camps
> was 155,694 with each documented death stemming from Disease, natural
causes,
> and of course the firing squad for the trouble makers.

Nonsense. The Auschwitz-Birkenau camp alone, a combination labor camp
and death camp, housed over 120,000 inmates. Transportation records
show more than 1.4 million Jews transported into A-B. Survivors and
those transported out totalled just over 200,000, leaving about 1.1 -
1.3 million Jews unaccounted for. And this is just one  camp.

Philip Mathews

> Michael Snead
> 14/88
>
> In a message dated 8/29/99 3:44:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
gormanh@home.com
> writes:
>
> << The figure of 6 million will be increased, not lowered, if
evidence
> currently
>  coming to light since the fall of the Soviet Union is any indication
- at
> least
>  that's what a lot of historians are telling us. There is no
indication,
> anywhere
>  but in your imagination, that the estimates are going to be lowered.
>>

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Zyklon-B:Jewish Development
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 06:23:33 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=502
>
>
>
> >From: pmathews@devine-pearson.com
> >Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
> >To: 13texan@eGroups.com
> >Subject: [13texan] Re: Zyklon-B:Jewish Development
> >Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:34:51 -0700
> >MIME-Version: 1.0
> >From 13texan-return-367-david_223 Thu Aug 26 09:36:25 1999
> >Received: from [207.138.41.146] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id
> >MHotMailB98EB78601C3D82197BECF8A2992454C134; Thu Aug 26 09:36:25 1999
> >Received: from [10.1.2.36] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 26 Aug 1999
> >17:35:05 -0000
> >Mailing-List: contact 13texan-owner@egroups.com
> >X-Mailing-List: 13texan@egroups.com
> >X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/13texan/
> >Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-13texan@eGroups.com
> >Received: (qmail 8655 invoked from network); 26 Aug 1999 16:34:56
-0000
> >Received: from mu.egroups.com (207.138.41.151) by qg.egroups.com
with SMTP;
> >26 Aug 1999 16:34:56 -0000
> >Received: from [10.1.2.7] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 26 Aug 1999
> >17:34:55 -0000
> >Message-ID: <7q3qbb$pkc7@eGroups.com>
> >In-Reply-To:  <19990826161419.60966.qmail@hotmail.com>
> >User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.76
> >X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster
> >
> >pmathew-@devine-pearson.com wrote:
> >original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=383
> > >
> > > >Zimmermann wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > If you want to upset Jews, all
> > > > > you have to say that IF jews have been gassed, then they have
been
> > > > > gassed by a poison gas which another Jew has developed.
> > > >
> > > >Are you saying that Jews were NOT gassed by the Nazis? Could you
> > > >clarify what you meant, please?
> > >
> > > By gassed, we take it to mean, were they killed intentionally
with
> >poison
> > > gas?....The answer to that is an emphatic "NO"....The gas used on
jews
> >was a
> > > de-lousing agent.....It killed parasites and other organisms
which were
> > > common on the body of jews.
> >
> >
> >The gas used to delouse and to kill Jews was called Zyklon B,
Hydrogen
> >Cyanide Gas embedded in a solid mass. This gas is used to this very
day in
> >U.S. gas chambers in capital punishment cases. The primary target in
the
> >delousing procedure was the lice which caused typhus, caused by the
> >deplorable conditions the Nazis allowed to exist in the camps.
Needless to
> >say, parasites are not  common to ethnic groups.
> >
> >Philip Mathews
>
>
> No deadly gasses were used on Jewish political prisoners....Many
tests have
> been done of the facilities at Aushwitz and Daukau....No proof of
deadly
> gasses, including cyanide, being used. ..Parasites are very common on
to
> some ethnic groups....World Health Organization in Switzerland will
bear
> testimony to this fact.

Untrue. The Crakow Institue of Forenscis undertook extensive research
on this issue, finding cyanide compounds on the walls of every gas
chamber, even those which had been exposed to the elements for decades.
There is no such thing as an ethnic specific parasite.

Philip Mathews

>
> David Smith
>
> ______________________________________________________

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Jew Agenda Against Aryans
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 06:28:48 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=503
>
>
>
> >From: pmathews@devine-pearson.com
> >Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
> >To: 13texan@eGroups.com
> >Subject: [13texan] Re: Jew Agenda Against Aryans
> >Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:53:04 -0700
> >MIME-Version: 1.0
> >From 13texan-return-368-david_223=hotmail.com@returns.egroups.com
Thu Aug
> >26 09:53:32 1999
> >Received: from [10.1.2.36] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 26 Aug 1999
> >17:53:16 -0000
> >Mailing-List: contact 13texan-owner@egroups.com
> >X-Mailing-List: 13texan@egroups.com
> >X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/13texan/
> >Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-13texan@eGroups.com
> >Received: (qmail 27991 invoked from network); 26 Aug 1999 16:53:13
-0000
> >Received: from mu.egroups.com (207.138.41.151) by qh.egroups.com
with SMTP;
> >26 Aug 1999 16:53:13 -0000
> >Received: from [10.1.2.7] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 26 Aug 1999
> >17:53:13 -0000
> >Message-ID: <7q3rdg$hner@eGroups.com>
> >In-Reply-To:  <19990826011644.69854.qmail@hotmail.com>
> >User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.76
> >X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster
> >
> >pmathew-@devine-pearson.com wrote:
> >original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=373
> > > One wrote:
> > > So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate
> > > all Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle
> > > against Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
> > > ~~~~~~~
> > > Kurt said:
> > > "Allowed"?  How nice of him.  Their lives were totally under his
> >thumb,
> > > right?  OK, so it wasn't "all".   Would you believe 99.9%?  What a
> >silly
> > > argument.  The ones in the prison camps were "allowed" to live,
and
> >did a
> > > lot of the dirty work.  Do you think they got a pension?  Duh!  I
> >don't
> > > think it makes much difference to the friends and relatives of
ones
> >who were
> > > murdered, thinking that they were not part of the 0.1% who were
> >"allowed" to
> > > live.  Get real!
> > > ~~~~~~~
> > > Me: Well, let's not forget that in so many of those propaganda
> >pictures the
> > > Jews wound up alive, like the "Warsaw Ghetto Boy." He lived to
> >adulthood.
> > > Amazing! And how about those pictures of German bomb victims used
to
> >portray
> > > so-called Jewish deaths. And how about the Allies bombing German
> >supply
> > > trucks towards the end of the war? And what about Zionists wanting
> >the camps
> > > to move Jews out of Germany into Palestine or Madagascar or
> >elsewhere? Now,
> > > please stop with your sob stories. More Germans died in WWII than
> >Jews. And
> > > just why is it that the very programs that are being used to
> >exterminate the
> > > White race from the planet originate with Jews? Integration and
White
> >guilt
> > > is their agenda, to mongrelize and destroy forever the Aryan
people.
> >
> >Jews did not want Germans to move Jews to Madagascar. That was a Nazi
> >pipe dream which never materialized. Germany was involved in a World
> >War which it precipitated, so the fact that more Germans died of war
is
> >hardly equivalent to the 6 million Jews who were _murdered_ and were
> >not at war.
> >
>
>
> Actually, when the German Jews started their boycott of German
products in
> the early thirties; they had declared war on their own countrymen....

Nonsense. The boycott of Germans products was in response to German
boycott of Jewish businesses and the Nuremberg Laws, which stripped
Jews in Germany of their citizenship. A product boycott, in any event,
is not an act of war.

.This
> is why it is stated that the Jews that were concentrated were
political
> prisoners....They were enemies of Germany, and dealt with as such;
not
> because they were Jews, but becasue they were treasous.....They were
dealt
> with as any prisoner of war, political or otherwise; Jew or otherwise.

They were concentrated as part of the Final Solution, as a prelude to
shipping them to camps to kill them. There is not evidence they were
political prisoners; it is ludicrous to think that millions of European
Jews, including small children, would be considered such based on a
world-wide boycott.

Philip Mathews

>
>
> ______________________________________________________

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Slander Against Germany
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 06:31:10 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=504
>
>
>
> >From: Ed Kadach 
> >Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
> >To: 13texan@egroups.com
> >Subject: [13texan] Re: Slander Against Germany
> >Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 17:55:49 -0600
> >MIME-Version: 1.0
> >From 13texan-return-373-david_223 Thu Aug 26 16:52:53 1999
> >Received: from [207.138.41.146] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id
> >MHotMailB98F1E540067D820F3B0CF8A299268B71; Thu Aug 26 16:52:53 1999
> >Received: from [10.1.2.36] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 27 Aug 1999
> >00:52:52 -0000
> >Mailing-List: contact 13texan-owner@egroups.com
> >X-Mailing-List: 13texan@egroups.com
> >X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/13texan/
> >Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-13texan@egroups.com
> >Received: (qmail 12610 invoked from network); 26 Aug 1999 23:52:51
-0000
> >Received: from portal.connect.ab.ca (206.75.40.10) by qg.egroups.com
with
> >SMTP; 26 Aug 1999 23:52:51 -0000
> >Received: from edkadach (ppp054.connect.ab.ca [207.34.79.54]) by
> >portal.connect.ab.ca (8.9.3/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA19625 for
> ><13texan@egroups.com>; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 17:45:28 -0600 (MDT)
> >Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990826175549.007b3870@portal.connect.ab.ca>
> >X-Sender: eddiek@portal.connect.ab.ca
> >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32)
> >In-Reply-To: <7q3o1p$tdol@eGroups.com>
> >References: <19990825234546.31879.qmail@hotmail.com>
> >
> >At 08:55 AM 8/26/99 -0700, you wrote:
> > >pmathew-@devine-pearson.com wrote:
> > >original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=371
> > >> I wrote:
> > >>
> > >> If you want to upset Jews, all you have to say that IF jews have
been
> > >> gassed, then they have been gassed by a poison gas which another
Jew
> > >has
> > >> developed.
> > >> ~~~~~~~
> > >> One asked:
> > >> Are you saying that Jews were NOT gassed by the Nazis? Could you
> > >> clarify what you meant, please?
> > >> ~~~~~~~
> > >> Me: What is there to clarify? The burden of proof is on you, not
me,
> > >to
> > >> prove it happened. So, let's see your proof. By the way,
Zyklon-B,
> > >developed
> > >> by a Jew, was for delousing. So, what do you say to that?
> > >
> > >You might as well ask him to prove the American Civil War
occurred. The
> > >Holocaust is a proven historical event, and the burden is on you
if you
> > >wish to claim it didn't occur, just as it would be your burden if
you
> > >decided the Civil War never happened.
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> And the Germans at Nuremberg were tortured into confessions.
> > >
> > >
> > >This assertion is not true. Perhaps you would like to present some
> > >evidence for this assertion. Only a small number of the Nazis who
> > >admitted the extermination of Jews were tried at Nuremberg. Many
more
> > >were tried at trials in various countries in the ensuing decades.
In
> > >any event, we shouldn't confuse trials with the writing of history.
> > >Most events after all don't have trials associated with them, and
yet
> > >we manage to develop an understanding of them.
> > >
> > >
> > > And by the way,
> > >> I'm of German descent, and personally I'm sick and tired of the
> > >slanders and
> > >> lies leveled against the German people and German nation over 55
> > >years after
> > >> WWII. I reject them all but you can try to prove them if you
will.
> > >And
> > >> anytime you wish to know about the merits of National Socialism,
I
> > >will
> > >> debate the facts with you as well no matter your opinion on the
> > >matter.
> > >
> > >The facts of the Holocaust have shown that Nazis were responsible,
> > >which is not the same as accusing Germans, although some were
involved.
> > >Your rejection of established history is a result of your desire to
> > >disbelieve, since the evidence is overwhelming. As for National
> > >Socialism, it was an unmitigated disaster, and its rehabilitation,
> > >although fondly wished by some, will not occur in our lifetime.
> > >
> > >
> > >Philip Mathews
> >
> >
> >
> >Where are the mountains of ash, Mathews? Facts(?) of a supposed
holocau$t?
> >Hardly. All we have is the contrived evidence of exterminationists
> >from a few Nizkookerites that have been mislead by McVay and the
> >Zionist lobby that funds him. As McVay has stated on
alt.revisionism,
> >Nizkor
> >has only enough funding till the end of the year and the rumour mill
has
> >it the usual funding will cease.(And do you blame them, he has
become an
> >embarrassment)
> >
> >
> >Racialist regards,
> >
> >Ed Kadach
>
> Good question, Ed....where are all those ashes....experts have stated
that
> it would take over 35 years to have cremated all those Jews, using
the most
> modern crematorian of today.....where's the bones?...where's the
ashes?
>

Experts have said no such thing. Both the manuals of the crematoria
manufacturers and the testimony of prisoners and Nazis who ran the
camps provides ample evidence of cremation capacity. The ash was easily
disposed of.

Philip Mathews

>
> David
>
> ______________________________________________________

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Slander Against Germany
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 06:35:29 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=505
> PMatthews wrote:
> >
> >Nonsense, we have an historical event proven like any other and
> >accepted by the entire historical community. The lies which are
bruited
> >about by those, usually of antisemitic stripe, are based on nothing
> >other than the desire to deny the facts of what happened. This
history
> >was written long before Mr. McVay or his organization came along, and
> >your attempt to reduce this to a Nizkor debate reveals the
desperation
> >of those who are unable to confront the weight of historical
evidence.
>
> Let's not assume there was a historical event, just because you claim
> it.

I'm making no such assumption, it is already a proven historical event,
just as the Second World War is.

...Let's debate it!....The Jews have been unwilling to debate the
> holocaust; why is this?....

Let's debate whether the American Revolutionary War occurred! It makes
as much sense. Anyone wishing to deny established facts of history must
offer reasons for the historical community to cast aside the mass of
evidence.  Good luck!

Is there is so much evidence what are the Jews
> afraid of?......At least they should be able to present one
commuication
> from one German officer to another regarding the extermination of
Jews....as
> meticoulous record-keepers as the Germans are, they certainly must
have
> written something......

There are many. It is that kind of evidence which is so convincing to
historians.

>
> Why won't colleges or talk-shows allow debate on the supposed
> holocaust?....maybe because there never was such a thing.

Why don't they have debate on whether there ever was a Roman Empire?

Philip Mathews
>
> ______________________________________________________

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Burden of Proof
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 06:37:45 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=507
>
>
>
> >From: "Jeanne-Marie Zimmerman" 
> >Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
> >To: 13texan@egroups.com
> >Subject: [13texan] Burden of Proof
> >Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 19:53:26 PDT
> >MIME-Version: 1.0
> >From 13texan-return-392-david_223 Fri Aug 27 19:54:06 1999
> >Received: from [207.138.41.146] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id
> >MHotMailB9909A060127D82197AACF8A29926E90140; Fri Aug 27 19:54:06 1999
> >Received: from [10.1.2.36] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 28 Aug 1999
> >03:53:28 -0000
> >Mailing-List: contact 13texan-owner@egroups.com
> >X-Mailing-List: 13texan@egroups.com
> >X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/13texan/
> >Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-13texan@egroups.com
> >Received: (qmail 12678 invoked from network); 28 Aug 1999 02:53:27
-0000
> >Received: from f214.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.105)
by
> >qh.egroups.com with SMTP; 28 Aug 1999 02:53:27 -0000
> >Received: (qmail 13776 invoked by uid 0); 28 Aug 1999 02:53:26 -0000
> >Message-ID: <19990828025326.13775.qmail@hotmail.com>
> >Received: from 208.25.190.196 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 27
Aug
> >1999 19:53:26 PDT
> >X-Originating-IP: [208.25.190.196]
> >
> >Philip Mattews said:
> >You might as well ask him to prove the American Civil War occurred.
The
> >Holocaust is a proven historical event, and the burden is on you if
you
> >wish
> >to claim it didn't occur, just as it would be your burden if you
decided
> >the
> >Civil War never happened.
>
>
> Well, I know a fellow that states that he is Napolean; prove he's not.
>

Napolean lived and died long ago. Historical facts exist to prove that,
as they  exist to prove the Holocaust. The fellow you know is
delusional.

Philip Mathews

> ______________________________________________________

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Belzec investigation - mass graves found
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 08:39:22 CDT
From: "David Griffin" 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

>From: philnancy@aol.com
>Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
>To: 13texan@eGroups.com
>Subject: [13texan] Re: Belzec investigation - mass graves found
>Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 20:33:17 -0700
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>From 13texan-return-406-david_223=hotmail.com@returns.egroups.com Sat Aug
>28 20:34:23 1999
>Received: from [10.1.2.36] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 Aug 1999
>04:33:29 -0000
>Mailing-List: contact 13texan-owner@egroups.com
>X-Mailing-List: 13texan@egroups.com
>X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/13texan/
>Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-13texan@eGroups.com
>Received: (qmail 29071 invoked from network); 29 Aug 1999 03:33:27 -0000
>Received: from mu.egroups.com (207.138.41.151) by qh.egroups.com with SMTP;
>29 Aug 1999 03:33:27 -0000
>Received: from [10.1.2.16] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 Aug 1999
>04:33:27 -0000
>Message-ID: <7qa9lt$f8fv@eGroups.com>
>In-Reply-To:  <37C880C0.10D3@bellsouth.net>
>User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.76
>X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster
>
>philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
>original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=422
> > People die during a war, it has happened all over the
> > world. They also die for many things and most are buried!
> >
> > Maybe they should drill for traces of Tay - Sachs !
>
>People don't just happen to die and end up in mass graves on the site
>of a know extermination camp. Together with Nazi admissions and
>documentary evidence, the actions of Nazi Germany with respect to Jews
>and others is beyond doubt.
>
>Philip Mathews

There is no proof of any "know extermination camp"....and you are
hard-pressed to produce any.

______________________________________________________

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Belzec investigation - mass graves found
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 06:43:47 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=514
>
>
>
> >From: philnancy@aol.com
> >Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
> >To: 13texan@eGroups.com
> >Subject: [13texan] Re: Belzec investigation - mass graves found
> >Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 20:33:17 -0700
> >MIME-Version: 1.0
> >From 13texan-return-406-david_223=hotmail.com@returns.egroups.com
Sat Aug
> >28 20:34:23 1999
> >Received: from [10.1.2.36] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 Aug 1999
> >04:33:29 -0000
> >Mailing-List: contact 13texan-owner@egroups.com
> >X-Mailing-List: 13texan@egroups.com
> >X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/13texan/
> >Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-13texan@eGroups.com
> >Received: (qmail 29071 invoked from network); 29 Aug 1999 03:33:27
-0000
> >Received: from mu.egroups.com (207.138.41.151) by qh.egroups.com
with SMTP;
> >29 Aug 1999 03:33:27 -0000
> >Received: from [10.1.2.16] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 Aug 1999
> >04:33:27 -0000
> >Message-ID: <7qa9lt$f8fv@eGroups.com>
> >In-Reply-To:  <37C880C0.10D3@bellsouth.net>
> >User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.76
> >X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster
> >
> >philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
> >original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=422
> > > People die during a war, it has happened all over the
> > > world. They also die for many things and most are buried!
> > >
> > > Maybe they should drill for traces of Tay - Sachs !
> >
> >People don't just happen to die and end up in mass graves on the site
> >of a know extermination camp. Together with Nazi admissions and
> >documentary evidence, the actions of Nazi Germany with respect to
Jews
> >and others is beyond doubt.
> >
> >Philip Mathews
>
>
> There is no proof of any "know extermination camp"....and you are
> hard-pressed to produce any.

Gee, I would imagine if your contention were true I would be more than
hard-pressed! Of course you would have to explain the bodies found, the
testimony of the Nazis who ran it, and the documentary evidence. But
that is different than assertion.

Philip Mathews

>
> ______________________________________________________

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: "Big Lie": Herb
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 08:44:10 CDT
From: "David Griffin" 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

>From: reiver@tca.net
>Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
>To: 13texan@egroups.com
>Subject: [13texan] Re: "Big Lie": Herb
>Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 23:15:11 -0000
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>From 13texan-return-409-david_223 Sat Aug 28 21:16:26 1999
>Received: from [207.138.41.146] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id
>MHotMailB991FE5000EED82197D7CF8A2992172F175; Sat Aug 28 21:16:26 1999
>Received: from [10.1.2.36] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 Aug 1999
>05:15:37 -0000
>Mailing-List: contact 13texan-owner@egroups.com
>X-Mailing-List: 13texan@egroups.com
>X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/13texan/
>Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-13texan@egroups.com
>Received: (qmail 10289 invoked from network); 29 Aug 1999 04:15:35 -0000
>Received: from mail.myriad.net (HELO newman.myriad.net) (204.57.67.6) by
>qh.egroups.com with SMTP; 29 Aug 1999 04:15:35 -0000
>Received: from default (usr09-018.tca.net [208.180.3.18]) by
>newman.myriad.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA30521 for
><13texan@egroups.com>; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 23:15:32 -0500
>Message-Id: <199908290415.XAA30521@newman.myriad.net>
>Priority: normal
>In-reply-to: <7qaata$buv4@eGroups.com>
>References: <19990827194758.69328.qmail@hotmail.com>
>X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11)
>
>On 28 Aug 99, at 20:54, philnancy@aol.com wrote:
>
> > People who supported communism. It exists today in China, with a
> > population well in excess of 1 billion with nary a Jew, and in Cuba,
> > equally bereft of Jews.

But Karl Marx was a Jew, as were 56 of the 59 politboro members in Russia in
1935...and of the 3 that were not Jewish; they had Jewish wives.....There is
an old saying, "Scratch a Jew and you'll find a communist"

______________________________________________________

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: "Big Lie": Herb
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 06:46:41 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=516
>
>
>
> >From: reiver@tca.net
> >Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
> >To: 13texan@egroups.com
> >Subject: [13texan] Re: "Big Lie": Herb
> >Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 23:15:11 -0000
> >MIME-Version: 1.0
> >From 13texan-return-409-david_223 Sat Aug 28 21:16:26 1999
> >Received: from [207.138.41.146] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id
> >MHotMailB991FE5000EED82197D7CF8A2992172F175; Sat Aug 28 21:16:26 1999
> >Received: from [10.1.2.36] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 Aug 1999
> >05:15:37 -0000
> >Mailing-List: contact 13texan-owner@egroups.com
> >X-Mailing-List: 13texan@egroups.com
> >X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/13texan/
> >Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-13texan@egroups.com
> >Received: (qmail 10289 invoked from network); 29 Aug 1999 04:15:35
-0000
> >Received: from mail.myriad.net (HELO newman.myriad.net)
(204.57.67.6) by
> >qh.egroups.com with SMTP; 29 Aug 1999 04:15:35 -0000
> >Received: from default (usr09-018.tca.net [208.180.3.18]) by
> >newman.myriad.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA30521 for
> ><13texan@egroups.com>; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 23:15:32 -0500
> >Message-Id: <199908290415.XAA30521@newman.myriad.net>
> >Priority: normal
> >In-reply-to: <7qaata$buv4@eGroups.com>
> >References: <19990827194758.69328.qmail@hotmail.com>
> >X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11)
> >
> >On 28 Aug 99, at 20:54, philnancy@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > > People who supported communism. It exists today in China, with a
> > > population well in excess of 1 billion with nary a Jew, and in
Cuba,
> > > equally bereft of Jews.
>
> But Karl Marx was a Jew, as were 56 of the 59 politboro members in
Russia in
> 1935...and of the 3 that were not Jewish; they had Jewish
wives.....There is
> an old saying, "Scratch a Jew and you'll find a communist"

The fact that Karl Marx was a non practicing Jew doesn't mean Communism
is a Jewish political system. I very much doubt your contention about
1935 and the Politboro composition. Any source for it?

Philip Mathews

>
> ______________________________________________________

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Belzec investigation - mass graves found
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 08:50:04 CDT
From: "David Griffin" 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

>From: SNEADSTER@aol.com
>Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
>To: 13texan@egroups.com
>Subject: [13texan] Re: Belzec investigation - mass graves found
>Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 00:38:23 EDT
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>From 13texan-return-412-david_223 Sat Aug 28 21:37:11 1999
>Received: from [207.138.41.146] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id
>MHotMailB992037F01E7D820F3B3CF8A299255A6102; Sat Aug 28 21:37:11 1999
>Received: from [10.1.2.36] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 Aug 1999
>05:39:14 -0000
>Mailing-List: contact 13texan-owner@egroups.com
>X-Mailing-List: 13texan@egroups.com
>X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/13texan/
>Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-13texan@egroups.com
>Received: (qmail 22051 invoked from network); 29 Aug 1999 04:39:12 -0000
>Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by qg.egroups.com with SMTP;
>29 Aug 1999 04:39:12 -0000
>Received: from SNEADSTER@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v22.4.) id
>aGPVa05159 (4233) for <13texan@egroups.com>; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 00:38:23
>-0400 (EDT)
>Message-ID: 
>X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10
>
>In a message dated 8/28/99 11:34:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>philnancy@aol.com writes:
>
><< People don't just happen to die and end up in mass graves on the site
>  of a know extermination camp. Together with Nazi admissions and
>  documentary evidence, the actions of Nazi Germany with respect to Jews
>  and others is beyond doubt.
>
>  Philip Mathews >>
>
>
>     I have a question...If it was an extermination camp why in the hell
>did
>it have so many  survivors?  With typhoid  being at epidemic proportions I
>would think that they would indeed try to bury the bodies in mass graves.
>     I have a picture that shows a traffic sign, telling the drivers to go
>5mph because of typhus can be carried in the dust! The Jews have made a lot
>to do about nothing over this so called Holocaust especially when the
>Jew-Boshevic controlled Soviet union was responsible for the slaughter of
>over 66 million to 100 million white, Christian Russians from 1917-1959.
>      Lazar M. Kaganovich was responsible for at least 20 million himself
>and
>the destruction of hundreds of beautiful Christian Churches.
>Michael Snead

So true, Michael....The Jews won't discuss the 100 million white Christians
they slaughtered; as they continue to slaughter Palestinians.....When the
Jews commit murder, the press calls it retaliation; like we are supposed to
think that their bommbing of innocent civilians is ok...Well then, would the
concentration of Jews by the Third Reich also be retaliation for the murders
of our brethren, Michael?..Father Coughlin spoke some on this subject.

Hail Jesus' Victory!
David

______________________________________________________

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Doubting Thomases
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 08:57:10 CDT
From: "David Griffin" 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

>From: "Jeanne-Marie Zimmerman" 
>Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
>To: 13texan@egroups.com
>Subject: [13texan] Doubting Thomases
>Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 00:44:31 PDT
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>From 13texan-return-416-david_223 Sun Aug 29 00:45:58 1999
>Received: from [207.138.41.146] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id
>MHotMailB9922F760095D821979DCF8A2992543B94; Sun Aug 29 00:45:58 1999
>Received: from [10.1.2.36] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 Aug 1999
>08:44:34 -0000
>Mailing-List: contact 13texan-owner@egroups.com
>X-Mailing-List: 13texan@egroups.com
>X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/13texan/
>Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-13texan@egroups.com
>Received: (qmail 29808 invoked from network); 29 Aug 1999 07:44:32 -0000
>Received: from f236.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.127) by
>qh.egroups.com with SMTP; 29 Aug 1999 07:44:32 -0000
>Received: (qmail 43770 invoked by uid 0); 29 Aug 1999 07:44:31 -0000
>Message-ID: <19990829074431.43769.qmail@hotmail.com>
>Received: from 208.25.112.206 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 29 Aug
>1999 00:44:31 PDT
>X-Originating-IP: [208.25.112.206]
>
>Michael Snead said:
>     I wonder if they found any soap made from human tissue.....Nah, even
>the Germans didn't like soap scum!
>~~~~~~~
>Me: Interesting, Michael, but I thought the Germans loved lamp shades.
>That's what has always been so funny about the whole phony
>Hoaxa¢au$t® story. The Germans hated Jews so much they would first gas
>them,
>then take their bodies and use them for soap and lamp shades. How morbid.
>~~~~~~~
>Michael:
>     I have heard rumors though that the holohoax people had plans of
>lowering their number to 4.5 million because of the Typhus that was rampant
>during that period and word is it may also qualm the doubting Thomases. I
>can't remember where that came from. Has anyone heard this?
>~~~~~~~
>Me: Oh, you mean the HolyHoaxers would go against their own creed and dogma
>now? And this is really funny from something Ed Kadach sent. I mean we all
>have to LOL at this one:
>
>LET US PRETEND THAT HITLER DID ORDER ALL JEWS KILLED!
>
>If he had there would not have been one Jew alive 20 days after he had
>issued such an order!!!!!!!! So strong was his power in Germany!!!!!
>They would not have been gassed but shot. The cost of gassing a person in
>1940 was over 10,000 times more than the cost of one bullet. Nobody would
>choose that costly method to kill somebody when they could use bullets.
>Only
>Jews can think such idiotic thoughts as using gas to kill.
>
>JM

I had never thought about it that way, JM....Thank you, and that makes
sense....Why did Hitler want to waste all that money, when he could have
easily just put bullets into their heads?....The fact is the graves found
contained bodies of political prisoners; the Jews being the most treasonous
in any nation; it makes perfect sense that the corpses would belong mostly
to them....They died in prison like any other prisoners; homosexual,
traitors, child-molesters,commmunists; of which the Jews are a great part.

David

______________________________________________________

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Belzec investigation - mass graves found
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 09:04:23 CDT
From: "David Griffin" 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

>From: SNEADSTER@aol.com
>Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
>To: 13texan@egroups.com
>Subject: [13texan] Re: Belzec investigation - mass graves found
>Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 11:41:38 EDT
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>From 13texan-return-427-david_223 Sun Aug 29 08:51:49 1999
>Received: from [207.138.41.146] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id
>MHotMailB992A1710045D82197A6CF8A299217CC30; Sun Aug 29 08:51:49 1999
>Received: from [10.1.2.36] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 Aug 1999
>16:46:43 -0000
>Mailing-List: contact 13texan-owner@egroups.com
>X-Mailing-List: 13texan@egroups.com
>X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/13texan/
>Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-13texan@egroups.com
>Received: (qmail 361 invoked from network); 29 Aug 1999 15:46:41 -0000
>Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by qh.egroups.com with SMTP;
>29 Aug 1999 15:46:41 -0000
>Received: from SNEADSTER@aol.com by imo28.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v22.4.) id
>aGJSa22757 (2617) for <13texan@egroups.com>; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 11:41:39
>-0400 (EDT)
>Message-ID: 
>X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10
>
>In a message dated 8/29/99 5:48:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
>gormanh@home.com
>writes:
>
><< >      Lazar M. Kaganovich was responsible for at least 20 million
>himself
>and
>  > the destruction of hundreds of beautiful Christian Churches.
>
>  I guess that the difference is that there isn't any movement afoot to
>deny
>that
>  such things happened.
>   >>
>
>     First of all it can't be denied because the Aryan people have no
>reason
>to fabricate any atrocities. The Jewish historians have suppressed these
>truths and  with them owning 90% of the book publication that was easy to
>do.
>And Gorman, go outside your Jewish circle and take a poll and ask just one
>question: Have you heard of Lazar Moiseyevich Kaganovich? You will get a
>zero
>response.
>     Your friends have done well to surpress the murdering Jew who was
>responcible for the death of  20 million white Christians and have
>glorified
>Holahoax survivors, extorted money from every nation in the world and made
>Hitler's six million (sic) dead Jews seem like a terrible thing.
>     What you need to do is quit guessing because when all is said and
>done,
>God's children will prevail and we all know who wins in the end. To bad you
>read the Talmud, it doesn't tell you the TRUTH. You have a chance to turn
>from your wicked race, I mean ways and make a real change. By the way why
>don't you try to find me a good used Talmud for about $10.00.
>Thanks Bud (sic),
>Michael Snead
>14-88

If every Christian, old enough to read, would read a little of what is in
the Talmud, they would change their minds about the Jews.....The talmud is
the most hate-filled book on the face of the earth...This is why the Jew
does not want Christians reading it.....We should have no pity for those
Jewish prisoners that died in Europe in WWII......For the Jews are "contrary
to all men"

David

______________________________________________________

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: HELP
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 09:39:34 CDT
From: "David Griffin" 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

>From: Herb Gorman 
>Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
>To: 13texan@egroups.com
>Subject: [13texan] Re: HELP
>Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 22:58:41 -0700
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>From 13texan-return-474-david_223 Sun Aug 29 23:43:13 1999
>Received: from [207.138.41.146] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id
>MHotMailB99372A301AFD820F3BECF8A29924C3D98; Sun Aug 29 23:43:13 1999
>Received: from [10.1.2.36] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 Aug 1999
>07:42:49 -0000
>Mailing-List: contact 13texan-owner@egroups.com
>X-Mailing-List: 13texan@egroups.com
>X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/13texan/
>Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-13texan@egroups.com
>Received: (qmail 28626 invoked from network); 30 Aug 1999 06:42:47 -0000
>Received: from ha1.rdc1.bc.wave.home.com (HELO mail.rdc1.bc.home.com)
>(24.2.10.66) by qg.egroups.com with SMTP; 30 Aug 1999 06:42:47 -0000
>Received: from home.com ([24.66.133.94]) by mail.rdc1.bc.home.com
>(InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with ESMTP id
><19990830064245.CKLD9566.mail.rdc1.bc.home.com@home.com> for
><13texan@egroups.com>; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 23:42:45 -0700
>Message-ID: <37CA1D91.98E87BA7@home.com>
>X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I)
>X-Accept-Language: en
>References: 
><37C9C1A9.8F330A4B@worldnet.att.net>
>
>
>William Seitzinger wrote:
>
> > The Infiltrators are achieving their purposes. The have once again
> > divided the Christians with the silly jew disputes they have gotten
> > Christians involved with. Responding to Holly-Hoax believes with words
> > of wisdom is like casting your pearls before swine. These people did
> > not join this list to learn about the Holly-Hoax, they joined to
> > disrupt the list and to destroy it. and they are unfortunately for the
> > Christians succeeding. SMARTEN UP SHEEP STOP RESPONDING TO THESE
> > INFILTRATORS.

Good advice, Bill...I've tried to stay clear of even answering a Jew or
Jewish lie supporter.....They love to divide Christians....Actually, they
hate the holocaust debate...we have been trying for years to get the local
community college to have a debate on the holocaust, and they
refuse....they've had MLK Jr, and Jesse Jackson Jr, and a host of other
radicals; but they refuse to debate the holocaust....if a Jew is on a talk
show, and is trying to make a point for the holocaust; try calling in and
debating it with the him....you'll see how fast you'll be cut-off....I'm
speaking personal experience.

Don't answer a jew in private...If they want to debate in a public formum,
fine....But don't hold your breath....Jews are never willing to debate the
holocaust publicly.

David

______________________________________________________

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] What is really going on here.
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 10:06:23 -0500 (CDT)
From: bigbopper36@webtv.net (PHILLIP SISSON)
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

I do not believe that anyone should ever close his mind to new knowledge
and i don't want to offend anyone but regarding the holocaust there are
extremes on both sides.  When i was growing up i was PROGRAMED to
BELIEVE that anyone that believed that the holocaust didn't happen was
an idiot. They would always put some skinhead or person that was weird
on the television and they would never ever give a reason that made any
sense on why they believed or SUPPOSEDLY BELIEVED  about the holocaust.
And  the holocaust was always portrayed as NEVER HAPPENING and the
people were always LOUD, IRRATIONABLE AND FULL OF HATE!!!  When  i was
growing up i was also taught that the jews were GOD'S CHOSEN PEOPLE.
Here in Alabama where i live our newly elected CLOSET JEW  DON SIEGELMAN
and his OPENLY JEW wife have now passed a law that the holocaust must be
extensivly taught and studied in Alabama public schools. I DON'T GIVE A
DAMN ABOUT WHETHER THE HOLOCAUST OR THE CIVIL WAR HAPPENED OR NOT!!  As
an adult i've studied BOTH SIDES  of the issue instead of ONE. And the
number one thing  that i've learned is THE PLAIN TRUTH ABOUT THE JEWS!!!
THEY ARE LIARS AND ANTICHRISTS. And no  jew is ever going to  convince
me of any thing to the contrary because unlike the holocaust i don't
have to depend on others for my information. It is self evident by what
i can see and hear. I don't have to accept it on faith.
No one should be on this list to prove the holocaust happened.  For the
same reason no one should be on this list to prove the jews are god's
chosen people. These are THEIR issues not OURS. There is nothing wrong
with reasonable discussion. But when someone tries to prove that jews
are anything but liars. (AND THAT IS REALLY THE SUBJECT HERE) Its time
to quit responding and press DELETE, DELETE, DELETE ETC... I know that
not everybody on this list believes the same
thing and we don't have to. But there are certain things that bind us
together. There are reasons we are on this list that bind us together.
PROVING THE HOLOCAUST HAPPENED IS NOT ONE OF THEM. This is where people
come to get the information that is suppressed in the mainstream.
Whether they believe it or not is their right but any discussion should
never get started from SOMEONE TRYING TO JAM THE OPPOSING DOCTRINE DOWN
OUR THROATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Let us not forget that their purpose is to
divide and to keep us from learning the meatier  matters. Do not forget
that the bible says (AND THIS IS SOMETHING YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE ON
FAITH) in the book of Job that WHEN EVER THE SONS OF GOD ARE GATHERED
TOGETHER THERE SHALL SATAN(THE ADVERSARY) BE ALSO AMONG THEM. We don't
have to get rid of the adversary because we don't like what they are
saying. We can learn from our adversaries to become wise as serpents but
harmless as doves.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: What is really going on here.
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 09:43:33 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=522
> I do not believe that anyone should ever close his mind to new
knowledge
> and i don't want to offend anyone but regarding the holocaust there
are
> extremes on both sides.  When i was growing up i was PROGRAMED to
> BELIEVE that anyone that believed that the holocaust didn't happen was
> an idiot.

And I was programmed to believe the same thing of people who denied
proven history. Why is it that this historical event dealing with the
murder of 6 million Jews is the only one whose occurrence is denied. No
similar denial movement exists for the genocide of Armenians, or the
Soviet Gulag, or the Cambodian slaughter by Pol Pot. And why is there
such a close correlation between this irrational denial and the hatred
of Jews? There is no extreme side of historical fact, the denial of
which is by definition extreme.

 They would always put some skinhead or person that was weird
> on the television and they would never ever give a reason that made
any
> sense on why they believed or SUPPOSEDLY BELIEVED  about the
holocaust.
> And  the holocaust was always portrayed as NEVER HAPPENING and the
> people were always LOUD, IRRATIONABLE AND FULL OF HATE!!!  When  i was
> growing up i was also taught that the jews were GOD'S CHOSEN PEOPLE.
> Here in Alabama where i live our newly elected CLOSET JEW  DON
SIEGELMAN
> and his OPENLY JEW wife have now passed a law that the holocaust must
be
> extensivly taught and studied in Alabama public schools.

Neither the GOvernor nor his wife have the authority to pass a law. The
law sounds like a good one. THe historical, political, philosophical,
military, and moral teachings to be garnered are exceptional.

 I DON'T GIVE A
> DAMN ABOUT WHETHER THE HOLOCAUST OR THE CIVIL WAR HAPPENED OR NOT!!
As
> an adult i've studied BOTH SIDES  of the issue instead of ONE.

There are not two sides to historical fact. The other side of fact is
fantasy. Not caring whether our children learn history is curious.

And the
> number one thing  that i've learned is THE PLAIN TRUTH ABOUT THE
JEWS!!!
> THEY ARE LIARS AND ANTICHRISTS. And no  jew is ever going to  convince
> me of any thing to the contrary because unlike the holocaust i don't
> have to depend on others for my information.

I think the most common reason for Holocaust Denial has been revealed.
And you are wrong, everyone has to depend on others for information.
It's just a question of whether the information is factual or not.

 It is self evident by what
> i can see and hear. I don't have to accept it on faith.
> No one should be on this list to prove the holocaust happened.  For
the
> same reason no one should be on this list to prove the jews are god's
> chosen people. These are THEIR issues not OURS.

Who is they and who is us? This is a history discussion, and the last
time I checked you didn't make the rules.

 There is nothing wrong
> with reasonable discussion. But when someone tries to prove that jews
> are anything but liars. (AND THAT IS REALLY THE SUBJECT HERE) Its time
> to quit responding and press DELETE, DELETE, DELETE ETC... I know that
> not everybody on this list believes the same

Ah, so you define reasonable discussion as agreeing with your
prejudices.

> thing and we don't have to. But there are certain things that bind us
> together. There are reasons we are on this list that bind us together.
> PROVING THE HOLOCAUST HAPPENED IS NOT ONE OF THEM. This is where
people
> come to get the information that is suppressed in the mainstream.
> Whether they believe it or not is their right but any discussion
should
> never get started from SOMEONE TRYING TO JAM THE OPPOSING DOCTRINE
DOWN
> OUR THROATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Discussing issues, even ones you find problematic, is not an attempt to
jam something down your throat. But people who disagree with you have a
right to be heard. As the saying goes, you have a right to your own
opinions, but not to your own facts.

 Let us not forget that their purpose is to
> divide and to keep us from learning the meatier  matters. Do not
forget
> that the bible says (AND THIS IS SOMETHING YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE ON
> FAITH) in the book of Job that WHEN EVER THE SONS OF GOD ARE GATHERED
> TOGETHER THERE SHALL SATAN(THE ADVERSARY) BE ALSO AMONG THEM. We don't
> have to get rid of the adversary because we don't like what they are
> saying. We can learn from our adversaries to become wise as serpents
but
> harmless as doves.

The Bible provides no sanctuary for those who would hate Jews.

Philip Mathews

>
>
>

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Why I read ...!
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 13:14:33 -0400
From: Charles 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

To whom it may concern on this list.

As for myself, I am Christian Identity with preterist views on
the end times. I could care less how many jews died during WWII
how they died or who killed them! What I do care about is now,
today and how many Christians have bought into the Un-holy hoax
that the Khazar jews are the Israelite people of the Bible.

We are fast approaching the new millennium, a time many Christians
believe will be the "end times", when Christ Jesus will return to
this planet and after the tribulation and rapture transform this
earth into his Kingdom where Christians believes will live with
him forever. Many believe Y2K will be the beginning of all that they
view as "soon" to come.

However what if Christ does not return in the next millennium, How
many long dead saints were looking for this same "end time" before
there passings since the beginning of the Tribulation and Rapture
Ideologies in the last 300 years.

Christ has given us the Kews to his Kingdom and told us what ever
we loose on earth will be loosed in Heaven aswell as what every we
bind on earth will be bound in heaven! By this it is easy to see
that the White Anglo-Saxon Caucasian Christian people True Israel
have made unto us by our own doing, ourseleves into slaves of the
jew and international bankers who now control our laws and goverments
upon this earth in a place where Christ has made us Kings and Priest
unto His Father God. It is high times we took responsibility for our
own actions and return to Gods law and came out from amoung babylon.

In other words for you really lost sheep, stop blaming God and the
devil and start waking up to the reality of who you are and who you
have allowed to control you and your churches and families... Stop
spending your money in jews stores or borrowing moneys form jew banks.
do your trading with your own people and if need be build your own
bankes, stores and schools where you no longer have to deal with the
international khazar jews or their money systems.

When we come out from amoung them they will no longer be our masters
nd nor will be any longer be their slaves, of whom we have allowed
ourseleves to become part of their system.... be not your own victim!

Know the truth and be free as Christ commanded His Sheep .

For more information on the Khazars go to http://khazaria.com

--
http://lostsheep.homepage.com
http://members.xoom.com/dog_patch

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] from a friend not on the list!
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 13:18:37 -0400
From: Charles 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com, dispatch76@onelist.com

"THE BLESSING IN "NO"

I asked God to take away my pride.
God said "No.
It is not for me to take away, but for you to give it up."

I asked God to make my handicapped child whole.
God said "No.
Her spirit was whole, her body was only temporary."

I asked God to grant me patience.
God said "No.
Patience is a byproduct of tribulations; it isn't granted,
it is earned."

I asked God to give me happiness.
God said "No.
I give you blessings, happiness is up to you."

I asked God to spare me pain.
God said "No.
Suffering draws you apart from worldly cares and brings
you closer to me."

I asked God to make my spirit grow.
God said "No.
You must grow on your own, but I will prune you to make you fruitful."

I asked for all things that I might enjoy life.
God said "No.
I will give you life so that you may enjoy all things."

I asked God to help me LOVE others, as much as he loves me.
God said, "YES, finally you have the idea!"

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: HELP
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 13:46:26 EDT
From: Jann186@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

You call this a place to learn history?????   BUT...some are behaving like 2
year olds in here.  They are beyond reasoning and just cause the group to
fragment.

Those that are WATCHMEN know the whole true story and don't need to have it
repeated more than once if they have wisdom with understanding in the
scriptures of the Holy One.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Why I read ...!
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 11:11:03 -0700
From: kb13131@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

kb1313-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=524

This is from Charles--

> have made unto us by our own doing, ourseleves into slaves of the
> jew and international bankers who now control our laws and goverments
> upon this earth.......

I don't have the slightest idea what you are talking about.  Can you
please give some examples?  I'm not a slave to any international
banker, as far as I know.

Kurt Buchanan

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: What is really going on here.
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 12:28:33 -0700
From: "Yuriy Kirienko" 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: <13texan@egroups.com>

Gentlemen:

1. How to explain that in all those body counts of
how Pol Pot and Soviet Gulag killed people (in the
latter case Russian people) you portray
yourself as freedom fighters for justice and from
oppression? Was it not Germany that killed 28
million Russians during the W.W.II alone?

2. How to explain that you portray yourself as
defenders of the human rights and dignity being
indignant about the horrendous lies of the
Jewish false accusations of Hitler Germany? How to
explain it in view that by doing that you defend
your own bloody lies several times higher than
that, covering the Great Aryan Holocaust of this
century that Germans perpetrated on behalf of the
Jews for their piece of the pie?

3. The answer is very simple! Those who do it are
either Jews themselves or mongrels and are no
better than Jews! By your hypocritical and loud
yelling, you hide the truth that is just opposite
to what both Jews and you are trying to prove.

4. Hitler never killed the Jews because NAZI
Germany was a Jewish created puppet and Hitler was
brought to power to kill Russians, rob them of
their land and to create the State of Israel. That
is what Hitler did causing tremendous damage to
the Aryans of the world contrary to what those
non--Aryan clowns, who talk in the Aryan names at
all times, say.

5. Hypocrites and liars! Hitler and his leadership
consisted of half-Jews and foreigners and was
brought to power by the German Illuminati and
Jewish money exactly as was Mussolini. Of them all
only Mussolini and Goering were without a Jewish
blood. Second man after Hitler was the Chief of
the SS Heydrich - a near pure Jew if there is such
a thing as a pure Jew at all.

6. It was Germany that made Bolshevik Revolution
in Russia and brought Jews of Lenin and Trotsky to
power. It was Germany that annexed 2/3 of the
European Russia through the hands of those two
Jews Lenin and Trotsky in Brest Litovsk. It was
Germany that through Germans in Russian service
and Jews sabotaged Russian war effort never acting
as would men of honor and always achieving their
victories by lies, theft, subversion and
backstabbing.

7. Hitler's Germany had only one goal in that war
and that goal was to commit a mass murder of
Russian people and to occupy the Russian land. It
was the Hitler's officials who made numerous
statements regarding their intent. It was the
Hitler's policy of the scotched land on German
retreat that when coupled with the destruction of
German advance left a desert upon the withdrawal
of German troops.

8. Germany is guilty of mass murder of millions of
the Russians POWs, of millions of civilians in
Leningrad and other parts of Russia. Hypocrite and
liars! What are worth your tears about Dresden
when at the same breath Rimland is sorry that
Germans ran out of soldiers under Leningrad. -
Under Leningrad, where after killing by methodic
shelling, bombing and starvation during 900 days
nearly 2 million people who hardly could move but
did not surrender the city, Germans had to run for
life yelling about Russian atrocities towards
themselves.

9. Are you Jews or are you Germans? If you are
Germans and talk like you do, you are worse than
the Jews for as Jews after committing a crime you
refuse to face the truth and answer the questions.
Hitler hordes of bandits and murderers killed 28
million Russians during only W.W.II. And when
Germans did it they always relied on the
non-Aryans minorities in Russia and Muslims.
Germany does it again in Serbia. Jews of Germany
now together with Jews of the US and England try
to build that sewer of the world that is called a
NWO, that Order that Hitler was attempting to
build though German-Jewish Third Reich.

10. By that short note I am addressing those true
Germans that still has the sense of decency and
were misled by mongrels all of that century.
Open your eyes and start fighting thieves,
murderers, and demagogues who mislead you into the
irrelevant issues in the sake of covering the
horrible truth. Stop talking about that idiocy of
not killing the Jews for everyone is sick of that
endless leading nowhere garbage. Start talking
about Jews and semi-German mongrels under whose
orders Germans had to kill 28 million Russians.

11. Find the truth who and why did it. Find the
true goals and identities behind the fake
appearances. Only that would explain to you what
to do and with whom to fight. Present German
judges are the same NAZI criminals in the new
anti-NAZI  disguises and they usurped the right to
make judgment on the non-German citizens as if
they have occupied the world already.

Yuriy Kirienko

   -----Original Message-----
From: philnancy@aol.com [mailto:philnancy@aol.com]
Sent: August 30, 1999 09:44
To: 13texan@egroups.com
Subject: [13texan] Re: What is really going on
here.

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original
article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?star
t=522
> I do not believe that anyone should ever close
his mind to new
knowledge
> and i don't want to offend anyone but regarding
the holocaust there
are
> extremes on both sides.  When i was growing up i
was PROGRAMED to
> BELIEVE that anyone that believed that the
holocaust didn't happen was
> an idiot.

And I was programmed to believe the same thing of
people who denied proven history. Why is it that
this historical event dealing with the
murder of 6 million Jews is the only one whose
occurrence is denied. No similar denial movement
exists for the genocide of Armenians, or the
Soviet Gulag, or the Cambodian slaughter by Pol
Pot. And why is there such a close correlation
between this irrational denial and the hatred
of Jews? There is no extreme side of historical
fact, the denial of which is by definition
extreme.

....

> divide and to keep us from learning the meatier
matters. Do not
forget
> that the bible says (AND THIS IS SOMETHING YOU
DON'T HAVE TO TAKE ON
> FAITH) in the book of Job that WHEN EVER THE
SONS OF GOD ARE GATHERED
> TOGETHER THERE SHALL SATAN(THE ADVERSARY) BE
ALSO AMONG THEM. We don't
> have to get rid of the adversary because we
don't like what they are
> saying. We can learn from our adversaries to
become wise as serpents
but
> harmless as doves.

The Bible provides no sanctuary for those who
would hate Jews.

Philip Mathews

>
>
>

--------------------------------------------------
----------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home:
http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group
communications

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: What is really going on here.
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 15:44:04 EDT
From: SNEADSTER@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

In a message dated 8/30/99 3:29:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, yk@jps.net
writes:

<< The Bible provides no sanctuary for those who
 would hate Jews.

 Philip Mathews
  >>

Paul wrote that the Jews lost their covenant with God so I hope you aren't
referring to them as the chosen people.
Michael Snead

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Introduction -1
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 14:58:47 -0500
From: "Willie Martin" <13texan@wavelinx.net>
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 

    This series of posts is an introduction to many secret
societies that you have, most likely, never heard of. All of them
were started by Jews, controlled by them, and they are still
under their absolute control. So keep this in mind as you read
this. I have taken this material from several books and will try
my best to present you with the documentation. Most of the
information about these secret societies is from a book named
"Occult Theocrasy, by Lady Queenborough - Edith Starr Miller,
published by the Christian Book Club of America, Vol. 1) I have
never been able to get the second volume so if you wish to learn
more then see if you can find it.

The more one studies the more he finds that man is a creature of
mind and matter. To the realm of mind belongs metaphysical
thought which, whether trained or untrained, is peculiar to each
individual and is subject for its development or restraint to his
will. It is the basis of religion in the generally accepted sense
of this word; it is purely spiritual and can reach the height of
mysticism. From it issues creeds or doctrines and the erection of
a theological system of beliefs.

One must also, always keep in mind that whenever the word
Cabalistic, Gnosticism, or Gnostics; it is the author trying to
say the word Jew, but he/she is afraid to do so, because when
they were writing these books, they would have been summarily
arrested and executed. So they used these words as a camouflage
for the word Jew, Jews, or Jewish.

Imparted to other individuals and accepted by them, the
metaphysical thought of a few great minds has become the basis of
religious systems. Upon its teaching was grafted a Ritual or Law,
disciplining the life, mystic, moral, social and even physical,
of its adherents or believers. From the exercise of such laws,
theocracy or the rule of priesthood was evolved. It is to be
found in every religion regardless of the fact that in some
instances like in the Buddhist doctrine of Gautama and in the
teaching of Jesus Christ, nothing is further removed than
ritualism from the metaphysical thought or religious conception
of the founders.

The power of theocracy or exercise of government rule over the
masses by a hierarchy of priests or adepts rested on its dual
system of teaching, namely: Exoterism and Esoterism, the former a
code of discipline of the thought and mode of life of the masses,
the latter the hierarchic school wherein were trained the chosen
adepts destined to safeguard the rules imposed upon the people by
the high priests.

Upon a close study of the manifold religious systems, the
corruption of which led to theocratic rule, namely, Brahminism,
the Ancient Egyptian Cult, Mosaism or Judaism, Christianism and
Mahometanism, one finds the accepted belief of monotheism as the
basis of esoteric or secret belief or doctrine. Monotheism is
here taken in the sense of First Principle.

Whereas the Egyptian high priesthood of Memphis kept this theory
as the esoteric teaching of the high adepts, Moses, brought up as
one of them, gave it as exoteric or popular belief to the
Israelitic sect to which he belonged. However, it did not embody
it in a deity, such as the terrible god of the Jews.

Another side of the esoteric teaching was that of occultism, the
development of all human psychic forces which, when misused, lead
to the practice of magic. The esoteric part of all religions or
hermeticism, the teaching and practice of occultism, led to the
development of what might be termed the religion of the secret,
which eventually overshadowed and helped to dissimulate
subversive activities.

It is with this that we are chiefly concerned and will endeavor,
to some degree, to show its baneful influence on society of all
creeds and nations. Let the reader bear in mind that it is not
the object of this study to discuss the place occupied and the
part played by either Metaphysics and Philosophy on the one hand,
and Science and Ritualism on the other. The limitations of each
and its encroachment upon the territory of the others, the
ensuing conflicts, are matter for the history of fanaticism
throughout the ages. Our aim is to follow the outgrowth of
Esoterism and a "few" of its multiple ramifications in the realm
of perversion and subversion.

This study is not all encompassing because that would beyond the
ability of one man, in one lifetime, to study and present. So we
are presenting only a few of an uncounted number. But we believe
these will suffice to show you that there is a conspiracy and it
is being played out for thousands of years and is even being
played out this very day in which you read these words.

Please keep in mind, whether you like it or not, hate it or love
it, the players are one and the same group of people, with one
particular religion, and that is Judaism. Of course they have
their hangers on, the race traitors, the thieves, the murderers,
and other assorted riff-raff of the other races and people who
are helping them in their efforts to destroy the White Race; the
True Children of Israel; the Anglo-Saxon, Germanic, Scandinavian,
Celtic and kindred peoples of the Western World; and take over
complete control of the world.

The Meaning of Occultism: A summary and some explanation of the
principal forms of occultism must proceed the following which
deal with the historical side of this subject, and the
objections, those of the credulous as well as those of the
sceptics, must be foreseen and forestalled. Many persons are
tempted to deny, arbitrarily and without examination, statements
on matters of which they have no previous knowledge, but even the
possible criticism of such as these must have received due
consideration.

In this modern age of radio, television, movies, rockets, and
space craft, one of the fads of the modern highbrow is to scoff
at such things as sorcerers, magic and evocations as old wives'
tales (Because he/she is to stupid to examine something before
they laugh at it). Tales of ancien history! There are people who
refuse to believe in the existence of the supernatural, perhaps
we should say supernormal, even when confronted with the
evidence. Such are the sceptics who deny everything. Hidebound in
their prejudice, they ignore the fact that magic, White or Black,
has now as many adepts as ever, nor can they distinguish between
the different schools of spiritism.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: What is really going on here.
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 13:02:54 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=529
> In a message dated 8/30/99 3:29:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
yk@jps.net
> writes:
>
> << The Bible provides no sanctuary for those who
>  would hate Jews.
>
>  Philip Mathews
>   >>
>
>
> Paul wrote that the Jews lost their covenant with God so I hope you
aren't
> referring to them as the chosen people.

Even if true, one thing would have nothing to do with the other. Do you
have scriptural citation on this? There is no way the Lord I worship
would do anything but condemn the hatred of Jews I see expressed on
this list.

Philip Mathews

> Michael Snead

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: "Big Lie": Herb
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:12:00 EDT
From: SNEADSTER@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

In a message dated 8/30/99 9:48:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
philnancy@aol.com writes:

<< The fact that Karl Marx was a non practicing Jew doesn't mean Communism
 is a Jewish political system. I very much doubt your contention about
 1935 and the Politboro composition. Any source for it?

 Philip Mathews >>

My Awakening by David Duke 1998...This book will give you more references
than you would care to read. Most written by Jews. If you have anymore
questions send them directly to me at Sneadster@aol.com. Out of respect for
the Identity people I will no longer subject them to these ranting.
Michael Snead

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Belzec investigation - mass graves found
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:14:40 EDT
From: SNEADSTER@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

In a message dated 8/30/99 9:51:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
david_223@hotmail.com writes:

<< Well then, would the
 concentration of Jews by the Third Reich also be retaliation for the murders
 of our brethren, Michael?..Father Coughlin spoke some on this subject.

 Hail Jesus' Victory!
 David

 ______________________________________________________ >>

David, so true and very well said.....Michael

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Identity - 2
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 15:22:06 -0500
From: "Willie Martin" <13texan@wavelinx.net>
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 

    First, there are the charlatans whose tricks in the line of
Spiritsm are generally sooner or later unmasked.

Second, there are the Occultists who operate in secrecy and hide
their meetings from all but initiates with the greatest care.

Many people are duped by charlatans, so the sceptics persuade
themselves of the absolute non-existence of all diabolical
practices in modern times. They are wrong. For Occultism
flourishes now in Europe, Asia, and America. The Black Mass is
said today in Paris and London, and Satanism has its faithful
followers in America. On this subject one of the prominent
writers was Carl Hackse, who, under the pseudonym of Dr.
Bataille, made an extensive study of Occultism and gave his
extremely exaggerated views of it in the book "Le Diable au XIXe
Siècle."

The following pages of this part of our study are mostly either
quotations or abridgements from that work: "According to the
teaching of the Christian churches, God allows demons certain
limited powers, but they are not permitted to open the gates of
hell and release a spirit at the request of one who evokes the
dead. The dead, even damned, will not show themselves if evoked,
nor would evocations be answered by those who had succeeded in
attaining the kingdom of heaven, but devils can and do, says the
Church, substitute themselves for the deceased. They will
impersonate a dead person whose appearance is demanded by
invocations.
It is also admitted that the fallen angels or spirits will often
manifest to people without being called. The theological
Hagiographa cite many cases of diabolical apparitions to saints,
apparitions which these saints have been able to repel and
conquer...but what sceptics and agnostic Christians alike ignore
is that besides the drawing room mediums, mediums for diversion,
there are occultists whose vile practices are veiled in the
profoundest mystery. These men, whose moral sense is absolutely
perverted, believe in Lucifer, but they believe him to be the
equal of God and worship him secretly." (Le Diable au XIXe
Siècle, Vol. I, p. 28, Occult Theocracy, by Edith Starr Miller,
p. 26)

Modern Occultism is on the one hand practical Cabala and on the
other, Indian Yogism, both of which have always had their adepts
more or less openly.

The Cabala is Occult Science itself. It is the secret theology
of the initiates, theology essentially Satanic. In a word the
counter-theology. Our God, the God of the Christians, is the
power of evil in the eyes of the Cabalists; and for them the
power of good, the real god, is Lucifer.

"The Cabala teaches magic or the art of intercourse with spirits
and supernatural beings. One cannot be a convinced Cabalist
without soon becoming a magician and devoting oneself to the
practices of occultism.
Not that our Cabalists or contemporary magicians practice all
the different branches of occultism. Some of these have been
abandoned and others are only used by charlatans for the
exploitation of superstitious persons, but a great many,
precisely the most criminal and perverse, are observed in the
hidden dens of our modern Luciferians." (Bataille, Le Diable au
XIXe Siècle, Vol. I, p. 29)

Magic Has Two Divisions: The first is divining magic, subdivided
into several branches of which the principal are:

  Astrology   Aeromancy
  Palmistry   Hydromancy
  Anthropomancy  Pyromancy
  Oneirocrities  Cartomancy

The second is operative magic, also subdivided into several
branches of which the principal are:

  Alchemy   Necromancy
  Mesmerism   Theurgy
   Various miraculous feats

There are moreover some superstitious practices not specially
classed. Bataille thus defines some of the foregoing:

Astrology: Divining the future by the stars. The casting of
horoscopes is its most prevalent practice.

Palmistry: Divining the future by the hand.

Anthropomancy; This is one of the practices supposed at present
to have fallen into disuse. It is a horrible, savage abomination
and consists in disemboweling a human being for the purpose of
divining the future by inspection of the entrails.

Mediaeval accuses Gilles de Retz of perpetrating this crime on
children, whom the he lured to his castle for the purpose.
Tacitus says that the Druids, in ancient Britain, used to consult
their gods by looking into the entrails of their captives.

Oneirocritics: Divining the future through interpretation of
dreams.

Aeromancy: Divination by the study of aerial phenomena.

Hydromancy: Divination by the study of liquids or aquatic
phenomena.

Pyromancy: Divination by fire.

Cartomancy: Divination by cards.

There is no need to expatiate further on the more or less
grotesque means employed by those who follow these false
sciences. One must be somewhat erratic to imagine that the future
can be foretold by coffee grounds, by the antics of flames in a
grate, by the order in which shuffled cards will be drawn, or by
the odd shapes assumed by wind-driven clouds! When events
corroborate predictions made under these conditions, it can be
attributed to the use of the power of clairvoyance, but these
fortune tellers, some of whom have a thorough knowledge of the
rules governing the practices of these absurdities, are the first
to distrust their art.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: "Big Lie": Herb
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 13:23:18 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=531
> In a message dated 8/30/99 9:48:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> philnancy@aol.com writes:
>
> << The fact that Karl Marx was a non practicing Jew doesn't mean
Communism
>  is a Jewish political system. I very much doubt your contention about
>  1935 and the Politboro composition. Any source for it?
>
>  Philip Mathews >>
>
>
> My Awakening by David Duke 1998...This book will give you more
references
> than you would care to read.

David Duke is bereft of any knowledge, education, or insight that would
interest me. Mr. Duke is hardly an expert on communism or political
philosophy.  His opinions are based on his racism and hatred, not
learning.

 Most written by Jews. If you have anymore
> questions send them directly to me at Sneadster@aol.com. Out of
respect for
> the Identity people I will no longer subject them to these ranting.

I would say offering David Duke as an authority on communism is much
closer to ranting. Clearly the allegation of the number of Jews in the
politboro in 1935 is not yet supported.

Are followers of Christian Identity sensitive?

Philip Mathews

> Michael Snead

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Belzec investigation - mass graves found
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 13:27:16 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=532
> In a message dated 8/30/99 9:51:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> david_223@hotmail.com writes:
>
> << Well then, would the
>  concentration of Jews by the Third Reich also be retaliation for the
murders
>  of our brethren, Michael?..Father Coughlin spoke some on this
subject.
>
>  Hail Jesus' Victory!
>  David
>
>  ______________________________________________________ >>
>
> David, so true and very well said.....Michael

How are the 6 million innocent Jews killed by the Nazis, including
women and children, responsible for murdering anyone?

Philip Mathews

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Belzec investigation - mass graves found
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 13:27:42 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=532
> In a message dated 8/30/99 9:51:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> david_223@hotmail.com writes:
>
> << Well then, would the
>  concentration of Jews by the Third Reich also be retaliation for the murders
>  of our brethren, Michael?..Father Coughlin spoke some on this subject.
>
>  Hail Jesus' Victory!
>  David
>
>  ______________________________________________________ >>
>
> David, so true and very well said.....Michael

How are the 6 million innocent Jews killed by the Nazis, including women and children, responsible for murdering anyone?

Philip Mathews

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: "...the beauty of your chosen people"
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 20:27:45 -0000
From: reiver@tca.net
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

Now what are you doing, Androgyne?  Are you invoking the words
of a Pope as if he were the spokesman for all Christians?  Or, are
you trying to demonstrate the effectiveness of concerted Jewish
efforts against anything perceived to be detrimental to their group,
of which one has historically been Catholicism?

Reiv

On 29 Aug 99, at 18:07, philnancy@aol.com wrote:

> We recognize today
> That many centuries of blindness
> Have veiled our eyes,
> So that we no longer see the beauty of your chosen people
> And no longer recognize the features
> Of our firstborn brother.
> We know now that the Mark of Cain is on our forehead.
> Over the course of centuries our brother Abel
> Has lain in blood we have spilled,
> Because we forgot your love.
> Forgive us for the curse
> Which we unjustly placed on the name of the Jews.
> Forgive us,
> For crucifying you a second time.
> For we knew not what we were doing.
>
> Pope John XXIII
> 
>
>
> Philip Mathews
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
> Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
> http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765
>
>
> eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
> http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications
>
>
>
>

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/765

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] RE: [13texan] Re: Re: Holocaust©® Numbers/History29
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 13:34:47 -0700
From: "Yuriy Kirienko" 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: <13texan@egroups.com>

Your belief stands absolutely on nothing. Every
child knows the truth of it in Russia and in
Germany as well. Soon I will prepare for you some
materials, though, I have no interest to prove
self-evident to anyone for who ever cared to know
the truth would have known already.

The Russians were raped and murdered because the
thugs of the world revolution were brought to
Russia by Ludendorff, Hoffman and other Masons of
Germany. The patch on the trench coat of the Red
Army soldier at the time of 1918 carried Swastika
and the small five pointed Star above it.
Swastikas were also printed on the money of the
Provisional Government in 1917. Both Bolshevik
coup and NAZI revolution were conceived by the
Jews in Basel at the turn of the century.

 I know perfectly well who is who for this is an
information for ten year old. All of your
statement is the repetition of the nonsense that
you have been brainwashed all of your life-time.

Russians never needed those German "saviors" who
always kept coming to rape, plunder, murder and
burn. Russians had to keep them away from Russia
with sword all their history. The only "history"
that you want to know is its Disney Land version
that keeps justifying murderers and bandits. If
you say to Russian people that Hitler came to save
Russia from Bolsheviks they would laugh at you or
they would think that you are from an insane
asylum.

The most disgusting in that is that so many
Americans do not know the first thing about the
subject, created their absurd fantasy in their
imagination, and decided that they posses the
supreme intelligence and knowledge allowing them
to see things that others do not see.

Why do not you start counting Jews in Hitler's
government instead of the Russian. What gave you
the ground to think that you are a standard of
measurement and a Russian judge? Without the West
none of those disasters would have ever happened
in Russia. All of that rot was born and brought to
Russia by and from the West. West has been
juidized to such an extent that it no longer
understands what the truth is or how a Jew look
like.

US is collapsing now not due to the outside
subversion as was Russia but because no society
can stand on the foundation of the absurd fantasy
of lunatics. And such a fantasy permeates all
aspect of the American existence. First you lost
your contact with God, then you lost notion of
common sense, and then even of the law and
justice.

Now you are floating in the pot filled with
fragments of thoughts, canned ideas, pizza of
history and dried emotions. It seems that the
American consciousness itself disintegrated and
crashed on the ground in a pile of debris.
A.Tocqueville stated 150 years ago in his book
"Democracy in America" that: "This rare and brief
exercise of their free choice, however, important
it may be, will not prevent them from gradually
losing the facilities of thinking, feeling, and
acting for themselves, and thus gradually falling
below the level of humanity. - p. 305, 1956.

Yuriy Kirienko

-----Original Message-----
From: SNEADSTER@aol.com [mailto:SNEADSTER@aol.com]
Sent: August 09, 1999 14:56
To: 13texan@egroups.com
Subject: [13texan] Re: Re: Holocaust©®
Numbers/History 29

In a message dated 8/9/99 11:49:31 AM Eastern
Daylight Time,
rogue4c@digital-rain.com writes:

<< the Soviet Government rescued almost 2,000,000
Jews from the path
 > of the Hitlerite advance." >>

It is my belief that Hitler was advancing his
military into Russia to save the true Russians
from the Jewish controlled Soviet Union. The
Russian people had been murdered, raped, robbed,
and torn down to a third world standard by the
thugs from the Bolshevik Revolution from 1918-1959
when Krushchev came into power.

Lenin was the grandson of a rabbi, Trotsky was
also a Jew who had changed his name and when
Stalin took control after the death of Lenin he
was surrounded by Jews and his third wife (A Jew)
was the sister of Lazar Moiseyevich Kaganovich who
was called the wolf of the Kremlin (a book by the
same title and written by Stuart Kahan) because of
his part in the death of 20 million Russians and
the intentional destruction of hundreds of
churches throughout the country.

I believe that Hitler had intentions of giving the
Russians their freedom from the grips of Satan. If
you will also study you will see that their were
only 10 death camps in Europe after the war and
isn't it ironic that they were all located within
the newly found borders of the Jewish ontrolled
Soviet Union were no diplomats of Christian
influence were allowed?

Michael Snead

--------------------------------------------------
----------------------
Click Here to apply for a NextCard Internet Visa
and start earning
FREE travel in HALF the time with the NextCard
Rew@rds Program.
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/449

eGroups.com home:
http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group
communications

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: What is really going on here.
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:13:36 -0500 (CDT)
From: bigbopper36@webtv.net (PHILLIP SISSON)
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

The Bible provides no sanctuary for those who would hate Jews.
    Philip Mathews

Paul wrote that the Jews lost their covenant with God so I hope you
aren't referring to them as the chosen people.

Even if true, one thing would have nothing to do with the other. Do you
have scriptural citation on this? There is no way the Lord I worship
would do anything but condemn the hatred of Jews I see expressed on this
list.

Philip Mathews

Michael Snead

Phillp Sisson  writes:     And there in lies an extreme. I don't hate
anyone. Blacks, jews, or homosexuals. If there are people that hate
these groups that i just mentioned then that is in part because of
brain-washing or PROGRAMING as i mentioned earlier. People can be taught
how to love and to hate. IT TRANSENDS RELIGION. However it has been my
experience that some of the most hateful people, and or maybe i should
say people that are devoid of love have been christians.There is a sort
of IN GROUP MENTALTY that takes place and as long as you follow the
(PARTYLINE) of that particular group you get called BROTHER.But if you
ever stray, all of a sudden (YOU AIN"T A BROTHER ANYMORE!!!) Now what
kind of sense does that make? It shows there idea of love is false and
unreal.The New Testament HAS MUCH TO SAY ABOUT LOVE. No matter what
gifts God may give you no matter what knowledge you may have if you
don't have love you have nothing. In my opinion if anyone hates  they
have a problem. One does not have to worship a god to hate or love.
There maybe athiest on this list or peterest (such as Charles) or sacred
names believers or any number of people with differing viewponts that
would make them hated because of what they believe. And then there is
sometimes a misunderstanding that can occur when humor is used. I can
see humor in the GODHATESFAGS WEBSITE, but i don't really believe God
hates them.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Congress: America's Criminal Class
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 17:15:20 EDT
From: MLRN@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

Thanks.  This is terrifying.  Mel

In a message dated 8/16/99 1:47:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
great_pyramid@hotmail.com writes:

<< Subj:     [13texan] Congress: America's Criminal Class
 Date:  8/16/99 1:47:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time
 From:  great_pyramid@hotmail.com (Jeanne-Marie Zimmerman)
 Reply-to:  13texan@egroups.com
 To:    13texan@egroups.com, Roundtable@flinet.com, SonsofLiberty@onelist.com

 What a "privileged" country we are to have such a nice bunch of folks ruling
 over us:

 http://www.capitolhillblue.com/Aug1999/081699/criminalclass1-081699.htm

 JM




  >>

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Zyklon-B:Jewish Development
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:17:56 -0700
From: Herb Gorman 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

David Griffin wrote:

> No deadly gasses were used on Jewish political prisoners....Many tests have
> been done of the facilities at Aushwitz and Daukau....No proof of deadly
> gasses, including cyanide, being used. ..Parasites are very common on to
> some ethnic groups....World Health Organization in Switzerland will bear
> testimony to this fact.

David, I only know of two valid forensic tests at Birkenau. Both were done by
the highly respected Institute for Forensic Research, in Poland. The most
recent, which was completed after the infamous "Leuchter report," may be read at
nizkor, at
http://www3.ca.nizkor.org/hweb/orgs/polish/institute-for-forensic-research/ -

Here's what these scientists (Fred Leuchter has no qualifications whatsoever in
the physical sciences, by the way. Did you know that?) have to say in their
concluding remarks:

"In his reasoning Leuchter claims that the vestigial amounts of cyanide
combinations detected by him in the materials from the chamber ruins are
residues left after fumigations carried out in the Camp 'once, long ago' (Item
14.004 of the Report).

"This is refuted by the negative results of the examination of the control
samples from living quarters, which are said to have been subjected to a single
gassing, and the fact that in the period of fumigation of the Camp in connection
with a typhoid epidemic in mid-1942 there were still no crematoria in the
Birkenau Camp. The first crematorium (Crematorium II) was put to use as late as
15 March 1943 and the others several months later."

So, as you can see, the only forensic lab to test the facilities concludes that
Leuchter's conclusions were quite wrong.

There's some interesting stuff about Leuchter on nizkor as well, at
http://www1.ca.nizkor.org/faqs/leuchter ...

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Jew Agenda Against Aryans
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:19:10 -0700
From: Herb Gorman 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

David Griffin wrote:

> Actually, when the German Jews started their boycott of German products in
> the early thirties; they had declared war on their own countrymen.....This
> is why it is stated that the Jews that were concentrated were political
> prisoners....They were enemies of Germany, and dealt with as such; not
> because they were Jews, but becasue they were treasous.....They were dealt
> with as any prisoner of war, political or otherwise; Jew or otherwise.

And the 5.5 million murdered Jews that were not Germans... were they also
"treasous," David? Infants at breast and all?

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Slander Against Germany
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:20:47 -0700
From: Herb Gorman 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

David Griffin wrote:

> Good question, Ed....where are all those ashes....experts have stated that
> it would take over 35 years to have cremated all those Jews, using the most
> modern crematorian of today.....where's the bones?...where's the ashes?

Which experts have said that, David? Could you name them for me, so I can look
up their work?

Oh, by the way, ashes have been found at both Auschwitz-Birkenau and, as noted
a few days back, at Belzec. Did you miss reading about those discoveries? (I
know how it is when a guy gets busy, David!)

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Belzec investigation - mass graves found
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:24:49 -0700
From: Herb Gorman 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

David Griffin wrote:

> There is no proof of any "know extermination camp"....and you are
> hard-pressed to produce any.

That's interesting, David. What do you think about the recent Belzec
investigations, which identified the 33 mass graves, human remains, human ash,
burnt, partially burnt and unburnt human bone, burnt and putrid human fat layers
several inches thick, stuff like that?

When you couple the findings of the archeological team with the testimony from
German perpetrators, both at the time and decades later, then throw in the
German railroad records and other Nazi documentation, I think you have a very
solid case.

What would you concsider "proof," David? Tell us what your standards of evidence
are.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Doubting Thomases
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:27:24 -0700
From: Herb Gorman 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

David Griffin wrote:

> I had never thought about it that way, JM....Thank you, and that makes
> sense....Why did Hitler want to waste all that money, when he could have
> easily just put bullets into their heads?....The fact is the graves found
> contained bodies of political prisoners; the Jews being the most treasonous
> in any nation; it makes perfect sense that the corpses would belong mostly
> to them....They died in prison like any other prisoners; homosexual,
> traitors, child-molesters,commmunists; of which the Jews are a great part.

Yessir, David! You've put your finger right on the money. Those damned
3-month-old Jewish traitors and common criminals deserved being shot, yessir!
How courageous the defenseless Nazi soldiers must have been to face these
terrible infants with nothing more than machine guns and poison gasses and still
manage to kill two million of them!

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Belzec investigation - mass graves found
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:29:28 -0700
From: Herb Gorman 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

David Griffin wrote:

> If every Christian, old enough to read, would read a little of what is in
> the Talmud, they would change their minds about the Jews.....The talmud is
> the most hate-filled book on the face of the earth...This is why the Jew
> does not want Christians reading it.....We should have no pity for those
> Jewish prisoners that died in Europe in WWII......For the Jews are "contrary
> to all men"

David, if the Jews didn't want Christians reading the Talmud, why is it sold in
book stores all over the world? Doesn't that suggest that Christians just might
read it any old time their spirits moved them to?

Hey, I'll bet you can still get that one for sale at Amazon Auctions for ten
bucks.... why do you think the Jews let that one slip through their heinous
curtain of censorship, David?

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Identity - 2
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:36:49 -0700
From: Herb Gorman 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

Willie Martin wrote:

>     First, there are the charlatans whose tricks in the line of spiritsm
> are generally sooner or later unmasked.

Yes indeed, Pastor Martin! That would explain this document I found on the
net about unmasked hate groups, would it not?

                                    Summary

"Christian Identity" is the name of a religious movement uniting many of the
white supremacist groups in the United States. Identity's teachers promote
racism and sometimes violence. Their roots are deeply embedded in movements
such as the Ku Klux Klan and the Nazis. They consider themselves true Israel
and view the Jews as half-devils and arch enemies. They believe all but the
white race are inferior creations. Identity's religious views are bizarre
and occultic, and their view of history is often informed by conspiracy
theories.

Identity's use of the name "Christian" to promote racism and violence is
blasphemous. Jesus Christ as redeemer of all races is God's supreme answer
to Identity's outrageous claims.

The headline read "Separatist Surrenders in Idaho." The story was about
Randy Weaver, a man indicted for selling two sawed-off shotguns to
undercover federal agents. During the FBI's attempt to force Weaver to leave
his Idaho home and return to court, three people were killed: a federal
agent and Weaver's wife and son. When the standoff was over, 15 handguns,
shotguns, and rifles were collected from his cabin.[1] Randy Weaver is a
member of a religious movement called "Christian Identity." This "Christian"
wing of the larger white supremacist movement is composed of adherents who
variously give allegiance to the burning cross of the Ku Klux Klan and the
sun sign -- the twisted swastika -- of the Neo-Nazis.

The movement, also called "Israel Identity," has become the uniting force
among many white supremacist groups. Included in most religious teaching
produced by its leaders are racist statements that echo the statements of
other white supremacists. The most moderate groups publish hate literature;
the more radical groups turn to violence, including murder. Among those
attracted to Identity in recent years are racist and violent young
"skinheads" -- some of whom were a part of the crowd of three hundred people
who chanted racial slurs at federal marshals attempting to capture Weaver.

Although Identity groups are small in number and diverse, their penchant for
social agitation attracts widespread media attention. The recent discovery
that racist groups in the United States are supplying both literature and
organizational help to racist groups in Germany is of concern to the whole
Western world. One article by the Associated Press states that "violent acts
perpetrated by far-right German extremists rose from 270 in 1990 to 1,483
last year, mostly attacks on foreigners."[2] The article goes on to say that
"police investigating KKK activities in Germany raided some 30 buildings in
May."[3]

Not understanding the violent and racist nature of Identity, Christians
sometimes connect with this movement because of Identity's espousal of
issues such as right-to-life and anti-Communism. Because of this
vulnerability it is important for Christians to know and understand
Identity's false and racist teachings. For the sake of non-Christians, it is
also important for Christians to differentiate between biblical Christianity
and Identity. Finally, it is the moral duty of Christians to stand against
the evil intent of this form of white supremacist teaching. It is to further
each of these three purposes that this article has been written.

                          The Jew as the Great Enemy

Identity adherents believe they are the only descendants of Adam and the
only chosen descendants of Abraham. This is the reason for the name Identity
-- they are convinced they know their true identity. They believe they are
members of the supposed ten lost tribes of Israel. Identity adherents of
today would include the British, Germanic, and Scandinavian peoples as those
comprising the tribes of lost Israel. On the other hand, the Jew has for
them become the great enemy. This insistence on singling out Jewish people
as the enemy of the white race is the Identity movement's most clear link to
Adolf Hitler and his Nazi ideas. The more extreme groups believe in what is
referred to as the "serpent seed" teaching that
Eve and Satan had sexual intercourse and produced Cain, starting a line of
half-devil people. For many Identity groups this imagined half-devil line of
Cain is the Jewish race.

Pastor Arnold Murray, an Identity preacher from Gravette, Arkansas, calls
them "Kenites" (an Old Testament people he identifies as "Cainites") and
believes they were associated
with Judah until they took over leadership of that tribe. These "Jews" were
the people who killed Christ. Pastor Murray teaches that calling the Jews
the chosen people of God is the
gravest of sins. He says, "Bless your heart if you have ever been deceived
by the Kenite, and I am speaking now on the spiritual level, if you have
ever really believed that group was
the chosen of God you were deceived by Satan. Repent of that even more so
than your personal sins in the personal sense."[4]

Some other Identity teachers believe the Jews are children of Satan only in
a figurative sense. But this really does not change their attitude toward
Jewish people -- their statements
about the Jews still reflect a deep hatred. One writes about the Jew: "We
know that as a race, they have the sly characteristics of the serpent...We
know they have intimidated and
imposed their will on our own government and every government in the nations
of Christendom, through their dominance of finance, government, church,
education, and the media."[5]
In this scenario, a political position begins to emerge: the Jews are placed
in a position of conspirators with Satan to take dominion over the world. In
an awful reversal of their biblical
role, the true Jewish people are now cast as the archenemy of God and
humanity. Claiming the sacred history and the sacred Book for themselves,
Identity teachers remove all that is
a part of the Jew's humanity.

                    Racism: The Basis of Identity Teaching

Racial bigotry extends far beyond the Jews in Identity teaching. Since the
white race alone has descended from Adam, the other races are viewed as a
prior creation. They insist that
Genesis 1:24, which describes the creation of animals and is prior to the
creation of Adam, includes a description of all nonwhite races. In that list
of created beings -- "cattle and
creeping things and beasts of the earth" -- they single out the word beast
as a description of other races. This of course means they believe the other
races are inferior. All Identity
teachers refer to the word beast to explain how other races escaped the
flood; they were included among the creatures that Noah and his sons rounded
up for the ark.

Because Identity teachers hold that the other races are of a different
creation, they consider interracial marriage a sin. Identity teachers insist
that interracial marriage was the cause
of God's judgment on the people of Noah's time. Consistent with this twisted
view of Scripture, they believe that to marry someone of another race is
treason to one's own race.
Pastor Pete Peters of La Porte, Colorado informs us that he teaches his
children to never marry a person of another race. He adds: "I teach them
also that if they ever did such a thing
-- never to come around my house with their mate or their half-breed
children because they've been traitors to their own sires."[6] Some teachers
-- such as Richard Butler and his
Aryan Nations, and Dan Gayman and his Church of Israel -- see the black race
as aliens and cohorts with Satan, and all other races as creatures who, like
animals, have no spirits. In
the fantasy world of extreme Identity, when Lucifer rebels he uses
spacecraft and fights battles against God with the help of beings from other
planets. The alien beings are forced to
earth according to one tape: "For the fleet...came to earth like crumpled
birds and...some survived and...some were wiped out....the dark and
curly-headed ones never before seen
upon the earth, the coming of the Negroid race."[7]

Although Arnold Murray affirms that all the other races are good, he offers
the public, without apology, the book Tracing Our Ancestors by Frederick
Haberman. Haberman writes: "It
must be noticed that there is a great difference between the three principal
races of mankind...and there exists little relationship between the three.
The white race were
unquestionably the last comers, being in every way superior to the other two
and constituting their leaders and teachers."[8] Pastor Murray also teaches
that even among Christians
the different races should have no fellowship.[9] All Identity groups
certainly see the white race ruling over the other races.

                         Identity's Racist History

                       Racism as Science and History.

Many of Identity's racist ideas can be traced to the late 18th and early
19th centuries. Esoteric sounding theories, propagated by intellectuals and
college professors of the day, were
used to prove the inferiority of some races. These theories have been
disproved by modern scholarship but are kept alive by the racist of today.
One of the terms common to such
theories was physiognomy, an ancient method for determining human character
by the study of facial features. This included comparing those features to
animal ones.[10] Also, many
historians of the time were highly nationalistic and, therefore, prone to
write with a high regard for the white race.

                               Religious Racism

Another form of racism developed along religious and nationalistic lines.
The growing concern of the peoples in the West (including the United States)
with their own national interest
led to some strange ideas about national identity. In the United States a
theory called "Manifest Destiny" evolved. That view included the
understanding that it was the nation's
God-given destiny to expand from the east coast to the west coast, and
perhaps even to the southern end of Mexico. In England another movement
began that would later blend well
with the Manifest Destiny ideas held by some in the United States. This
religious movement was nationalistic, assigning religious worth more to race
than to righteousness.

The movement, Anglo-Israelism, began in 1870. It was founded by the Rev.
John Wilson, a nonconformist minister who expounded the idea that the
Anglo-Saxons were the supposed
ten lost tribes of Israel. Believing the nations of western Europe and the
United States to be God's chosen people, they expected them to receive all
the promises God gave to Israel
in the Old Testament.

Mr. Edward Hine brought the Anglo-Israelism movement to the United States in
1870, the same year the movement began in England. His efforts were mostly
unfruitful, but his book,
Identification of the British Nation with Lost Israel, is still used by
adherents of Identity in the United States. Hine's book was first among a
spate of Anglo-Israel literature published in
the U. S. -- including a periodical published by Yale Professor Charles A.
L. Totten called, Our Race, Its Origins and Its Destiny.[11] Today, with few
exceptions (the Worldwide Church
of God being one), most adherents of Anglo-Israelism are in the Identity
movement.

                           The Turn toward Violence

Extreme racism entered Anglo-Israelism because some of its most prominent
adherents were also connected to the Ku Klux Klan, and the Klan in turn had
become interested in the
Nazis. The KKK was born, without overt racist intentions, in 1867. Thomas F.
Gossett, author of Race: The History of an Idea in America, notes that "the
Klan originated as a lark
among young men in southern Tennessee who -- so the story goes -- chose this
method of visiting their sweethearts attired in their version of the costume
of Knights of old and
discovered accidentally that they were terrifying the Negroes."[12] The Klan
grew in its attempt to control black people during the Reconstruction
period. The methods included
"assassination, whipping, tarring and feathering."[13] The Klan during the
1920s added the Jew and Catholic to their list of enemies in an attempt to
attract more members. By 1923
membership had reached between three and six million people. Decline came
with the depression of the 1930s and also with the Ku Klux Klan's overtures
to the American arm of the
Nazi party before the Second World War.[14]

The merging of Klan and Nazi extremism into the Anglo-Israelism movement --
which then produced the Identity movement -- can largely be traced to one
man: Wesley Swift.
However, it was not Swift but Howard B. Rand (whose writings are published
by Destiny Publishers) who first coined the term Identity. According to
James Coates, Rand's intention
was "to describe Hine's concept of Anglo-Israelism, in which Jesus was not a
Jew of the tribe of Judah but an Aryan of the ten lost tribes of Israel and
an ancestor of the present
British, Germanic and Scandinavian people."[15]

Wesley Swift was a prolific speaker and his tapes and written messages are
frequently used by Identity speakers. His connections to the Nazism of
Hitler's Germany are
unquestionable. Swift was at one time both a friend and advance man for
Gerald L. K. Smith, a racist whose radical career began when he joined the
"Silver Shirts," an American
Nazi group formed by Willam Pelley. James Ridgeway, author of Blood in the
Face (a "who's-who of hate"), notes that "with Pelley as their 'Chief,' the
Silver Shirts openly supported
Hitler, cooperated with the pro-Nazi German-American Bund, and embarked on a
program of vicious anti-Semitism."[16]

Swift was also a member of the Ku Klux Klan when he founded the Identity
Church of Jesus Christ Christian in 1946. Richard Butler, who was led into
the Identity movement by Wesley
Swift, inherited Swift's church and founded an Identity compound called the
Aryan Nations, located near Hayden Lake, Idaho. Butler is an advocate of
Nazism, and his yearly Aryan
Nations meetings attract Klan members, Nazi groups, and skinheads. Some
Identity teachers, although racist, reject Nazism in name, attributing its
cause to the Jews. This trend has
started a new controversy within the ranks of Identity. The Identity groups
who reject Nazism also do so because they are perceptive enough to recognize
Nazism's ingrained hatred of
true Christianity.

                         Identity's Spiritual History

The list of spiritual influences touching Identity resembles a religious
vanity fair. The Neo-Nazi movement embraces the zodiac of astrology as
easily as it does the teaching of the
quietest mystic Madame Guyon. Its teachers write against the New Age
movement while embracing occultist Edgar Cayce. They also welcome the
deliverance ministries (those
ministries that specialize in the controversial practice of casting demons
out of Christians) while embracing the world of the occult.

                              Occult Influence

Some of the groups that reject Nazism seem to feature less occult teaching
within their published material. However, except for racist literature,
occult teachings have probably had
the greatest influence on most Identity groups and individuals. This may
have partly developed from prewar occultic German groups that were also
anti-Semitic. German cults such as
the Alder and Falken and the Geusen worshiped the sun. And one influence on
Hitler was a group whose emphasis on German nationality was connected to
their interest in the
Druids -- an ancient pagan people many Identity groups also embrace.[17]

Wesley Swift used occult legends as "truths" in his sermons. His bizarre
teachings included stories about Atlantis and Lemuria, fictional
civilizations included in most occult
philosophy. Identity teachers of today such as Pastor Arnold Murray maintain
that the great Pyramid was built by the Israelites and is a second
revelation of God. The idea that the
measurements of the pyramid are encoded with a revealed message is occultic,
since the message is both supernaturally given and esoteric, known only by
those initiated into that
knowledge. Identity also embraces astrology and occultic tales of Jesus
visiting Britain.

                    Other Streams of Religious Influence

Because many Identity adherents are people with a history of looking for
"new truths," they often come to Identity from other religious movements,
bringing some of their unique
doctrines with them. Thus the teachings of several smaller religious groups
have been added to the racist teachings of Identity. These include the
Sacred Name movement (using only
Yahweh for God and Yehoshua or some equivalent for Jesus); Jesus Only
teaching (the belief that there are not three persons in the Godhead, only
three offices); and the fringe
teachings of the "manifest sons of God" (the expectation that an elite group
of the church will deliver creation, overcome death, and help God bring in
the kingdom). A few people
came out of the restoration and charismatic movements and added their unique
doctrines to Identity. The restoration movement teaches that God is
restoring lost doctrines to the
church. Utilizing this framework, the Identity teachers include Identity as
one of the lost doctrines. (It is important to point out that although
Identity teachers variously link Identity to the
above movements and teachings, properly speaking these movements have
nothing to do with Identity.)

                        The Bonding Link of Conspiracy

The Identity stand against the Jews as a people without value who are
enemies of the white race aligns the movement with other groups that feed
constantly on conspiracy theories,
including ones that are Nazi without teaching Anglo-Israelism. This taste
for anti-Semitism is most responsible for the intermingling of Identity,
Neo-Nazi, and other racist groups.
Different groups will often use the same speakers at their various churches
and survivalist camps. And individual members of different groups will order
the same books from racist
publishers.

For instance, many Identity groups offer books by E. Raymond Capt and also
use him as a speaker, since his specialty is supposedly archaeology and
history. Capt's writing includes
such books as Stonehenge and Druidism and The Traditions of Glastonbury: The
Silent Years of Jesus between 12 and 30. Another speaker used by most groups
is Lt. Col. Jack
Mohr, whose specialty is anti-Communism. Mohr offers such tapes as
"Background to Betrayal: How America Has Been Betrayed by Zionists Both
Jewish and Christian." Many
racist groups, including Identity groups, sell or refer to the book,
Protocols of the Elders of Zion. This fraudulent book is supposedly a
document of conspiracy by Jewish leaders to
take over the world.

Most conspiracy theories have developed from a particular fear -- and the
need to master that fear, by identifying a cause and then supposedly gaining
control of the situation. For
instance, the cause of the Black Plague in the Middle Ages was attributed to
the Jew. The solution espoused was to kill or remove the Jews. Then the
plague would supposedly end.
The disastrous condition of Germany after the First World War was attributed
to the Jew by some fearful Germans. Eventually their evil solution brought
about the Holocaust. And
while the John Birch Society changed most of the leading players in their
conspiracy theory to what they call the "insiders" rather than Jews, many
others still see the Jew as the
monster controlling world events. For these anti-Semites the Jew is often
referred to as the "International Banker."

All of these groups together, both Identity and non-Identity white
supremacist, hold a dangerous sociopolitical view. Their mutual solution to
this supposed "Jewish control" is a race
war. This war is considered by many Identity teachers to be the last great
battle, Armageddon.

According to these teachers, at the head of this conspiracy that leads to
the final battle is ZOG: Zionist Occupation Government. Zionist Occupation
Government simply means to
Identity adherents that the Jewish conspiracy has taken over the government
of the United States. Since they also believe that Jewish leaders are using
other races to destroy the
white race, the final battle pits the white race against virtually all
others. And, because they constantly feed on conspiracy theories that
involve those whose beliefs or politics oppose
their own, Identity's political and religious opposites are also considered
their enemies. Furthermore, they do not have to love their enemies because
they consider most of them
subhuman.

                     The Parasitic Existence of Identity

The farm crisis is an important source for Identity propaganda. Using such
tapes as "A Biblical Look at the Farm Problem," they prey on farmers who are
losing their farms.[18] Some
Identity teachers are suggesting that ZOG or the Jews are behind the loss of
the farms. They have managed to pull a few farmers into the movement through
these tactics. This kind of
parasitic existence is typical of Identity extremism. They appeal to other
conservatives concerning such issues as AIDS, abortion, and prison reform.
This is where some Christians
have been pulled into the circle of Identity.

Many Christians find they are facing a bewildering morass of social
problems. For some this has led to a deeper understanding of God's
sovereignty, and a greater dependence on
His grace and mercy to sinners. For others there is the enticing reach for
the quick answer. And this has meant a return to philosophies that are void
of grace. At this point it is
possible for the bits and pieces of Identity to seep in. Christians who are
far from Identity's blatant racism nonetheless allow Identity's attitudes
and world view -- including conspiracy
theories -- to touch the core of their faith. Turning to ideas, news
sources, and leaders who lack an understanding of the true gospel, these
Christians accept into their beliefs and their
publications concepts that are not biblical.

                           God's Answer to Racism

The psalmist wrote, "Thy word I have treasured in my heart, that I may not
sin against thee" (Ps. 119:11). A lack of biblical teaching in differing
ages has often opened the door for
both heresy and sin within the Christian community.

In the Nazi era a great deal of Old Testament Scripture had already been
rejected by many liberal scholars, mainly in Germany. Unlike the Identity
movement of today, which accepts
all of the Bible as inspired, the Nazis who considered themselves
"Christian" were able to divorce the Jewish foundation of Christianity by
simply disconnecting Christianity from both
the Old Testament and Paul. Most of the "German Christians" -- those loyal
to Hitler -- based their religious views on a kind of nationalistic
nonsectarian ethic.

Franklin Littell, Professor of Religion at Temple University, points out
that this German understanding of Christianity was not unlike John Birch
Society founder Robert Welch's
"ecstatic affirmation of non-sectarian religion," found in Welch's The Blue
Book. Littell writes: "The 'German Christians' were at least logical enough
to press the religion of the ethnic
base, infused with spirituality, to its logical conclusion:
antisemitism."[19] The point is: without a biblical basis, without Jesus
Christ as Lord, any religion, even one named Christian --
especially one named Christian, can produce gross evil.

Although the religious teachers of "Christian Identity" do not reject the
Old Testament or Paul, they distort and twist Scripture until little is left
of God's revelation of good news. The
Identity teachers' conclusion that the British, Scandinavian, and Germanic
peoples are the lost tribes of Israel is a case in point. None of the tribes
of Israel have been lost. While many
of the northern tribes of Israel -- carried into exile by Assyria --
intermarried with the peoples they lived among, there is no biblical
reference that would encourage this teaching of lost
tribes.

Christ's statement that He "was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of
Israel" (Matt. 15:24) is not a reference to tribes that had physically
disappeared, but to a people who were
lost in sin. Earlier in the text Jesus had sent His twelve disciples "to the
lost sheep of the house of Israel" (Matt. 10:6), and the disciples did not
need to search for the people they
were sent to help. After the captivity of the Northern Kingdom of Israel and
the Babylonian captivity of the Southern Kingdom of Judah, all twelve tribes
-- whether living outside of the
homeland or within the homeland -- were referred to as both Jews and Israel.
Both the Book of Ezra and the Book of Nehemiah, books about the return of
God's people to Jerusalem
after their captivity, use the two terms, Jews and Israel, to refer to the
same people (e.g., Ezra 2:26; 4:12; Neh. 1:6; 4:1-2).

Paul refers to himself as both a Jew and an Israelite. Writing of God's
enduring of the "vessels of wrath" for the sake of those He would show mercy
to, he notes: "And He did so in
order that He might make known the riches of His glory upon the vessels of
mercy, which He prepared beforehand for glory, even us, whom He also called,
not from among Jews only,
but also from among Gentiles" (Rom. 9:23-24). In the same chapter he writes:
"For I could wish that I myself were accursed, separated from Christ for the
sake of my brethren, my
kinsmen according to the flesh, who are Israelites" (Rom. 9:3-4). Luke in
the second chapter of Acts records the fact that Jerusalem was filled at
Pentecost with Jews from many
lands, and when Peter addresses them he refers to them as "men of Israel."
Jesus explained to the Samaritan woman that "we worship that which we know,
for salvation is from the
Jews" (John 4:22), not only calling Himself a Jew but pointing her toward
the Jewish people, whom God had chosen to bless the world through the
promised Messiah.[20]

Once the error of Anglo-Israelism is exposed it leaves the Identity believer
in a very damning position -- Identity adherents are not the chosen people,
rather they are the ones
attacking the chosen people, the Jews. And they are also the ones ranting
against the true church of Christ. They are, in fact, attacking God, for
their attempt to relegate other races to
an earlier and inferior creation is an attack on the love of God, as well as
the image of God in all humanity. It is the image of God in humans that sets
them apart from all other
creatures and prepares the way for Christ to take unto Himself human flesh
and redeem people of all races. The biblical themes of redemption, the
Incarnation, and the unity of
humanity ("every nation and race") are constantly blended together in
Scripture.

When Paul preached to the Athenians on Mars Hill he appealed to their common
humanity as creations of the true God when he stated: "And He made from one,
every nation of
mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined their
appointed times, and the boundaries of their habitation, that they should
seek God, if perhaps they might grope for
Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us" (Acts 17:26-27).
Genesis 10:1-32 names most of the nations that developed from the three sons
of Noah. Derek Kidner,
author of Genesis in the Tyndale Old Testament Commentaries, writes: "Not
every nation known to the Old Testament is enrolled here, but enough are
present to make the point that
mankind is one, for all its diversity, under the one creator. Possibly the
seventy names (Lxx 72) influenced our Lord's choice of this apparently
symbolic number of emissaries in Luke
10:1."[21]

Jesus Christ is God's answer to racism. Paul admonishes the Galatians that
they are to make no distinctions among those belonging to Christ; they are
to be as one: "For all of you
who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is
neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither
male nor female; for you are all
one in Christ Jesus" (Gal. 3:27-28). In the Book of Revelation, where Christ
is pictured as both "the Lion that is from the tribe of Judah" and "a Lamb
standing, as if slain," the 24
Elders sing to His glory: "For Thou wast slain, and didst purchase for God
with Thy blood men from every tribe and tongue and people and nation. And
thou hast made them to be a
kingdom and priests to our God; and they will reign upon the earth" (Rev.
5:9-10).

The church, those redeemed not by race but by the blood of Christ the Lamb,
understand Christ as both lion and lamb, both sacrifice and King. Wilhelm
Niemoller, one of the
members of the Confessing Church in Germany during the time of Hitler, wrote
of what it meant to confess Christ as the only Lord under that regime: "One
of my friends concluded a
sermon of his in 1934 or 1935 by saying: 'O Lord, Thou alone art our hope,
apart from Thee, I know none!' He was arrested, put on trial, and later
released. The enemies that listened
to him had noticed that the Third Reich was put in a difficult position
wherever the 'One Word of God' made its appearance."[22] The Neo-Nazi groups
and those who feed on their
hate literature are simply a part of the rising paganism in America. They
are also an extreme example of groups who like to use Christian terminology
while laying foundations on
extrabiblical revelation. The need for present security, elitism, power, and
a revelation not anchored in Christ and the Word of God is the mark of
anti-Christian religion.

The believer's only haven is Christ. This means there is no present worldly
security -- the believer is not an elite person. Instead, members of
Christ's church are often the ones hated
and despised by the nations. The only power given is that which Christ
gives, so that His followers may be able to faithfully love, serve, and
suffer in this present world. Finally, the
believer finds racial pride to be sin, because the only exaltation a
Christian knows is God's unmerited grace, freely offered to all in Jesus
Christ.

          Previously the director of Apologetics Resource Center,
Sacramento, California, Viola Larson is a graduate student in history at
California State University,
          Sacramento.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

NOTES

1. John E. Yang, "Separatist Surrenders in Idaho," Sacramento Bee, 1
September 1992, part A.

2. "U.S. Hate Groups Spread Their Venom to Germany," Sacramento Bee, 14
August 1992, part A.

3. Ibid.

4. Arnold Murray, Grace: Baptism (cassette #406) (Gravette, AR: Shepherd's
Chapel, n.d.).

5. Jack Mohr, "Seed of Satan: Literal or Figurative?" (Louis, MI: n.p.,
n.d.) 26.

6. Pete Peters, Inter-Racial Marriage, part l (cassette 170) (La Porte, CO:
Scriptures for America, n.d.).

7. Wesley Swift, Dwellers in the Deep (cassette 350) (Waynesville, NC: New
Beginnings, 1964).

8. Federick Haberman, Tracing Our Ancestors (n.p., n.d.), 10. Reference is
made within the book to Hitler in Germany, dating the book sometime before
World War II.

9. Murray, Grace: Baptism.

10. Thomas F. Gossett, Race: The History of an Idea in America (New York:
Schocken Books, 1965), 71.

11. James Coates (New York: Hill and Wang, Farrar, Straus, and Giroux,
1987), 181; Gossett, 192.  [Back] 12. Gossett, 259-60.

13. Ibid., 260.

14. Coates, 33-36.

15. Ibid., 93.

16. James Ridgeway, Blood in the Face: The Ku Klux Klan, Aryan Nations,
Skinheads, and the Rise of a New White Culture(New York: Thunder's Mouth
Press, 1990), 45.

17. George L. Mosse, The Crisis of German Ideology: Intellectual Origins of
the Third Reich (New York: Schocken Books, 1981), 75, 116, 277.

18. Pete Peters, A Biblical Look at the Farm Problems (cassette 161) (La
Porte, CO: Scriptures for America, n.d.).

19. Frank H. Littell, "Church Struggle and the Holocaust," in The German
Church Struggle and the Holocaust, ed. Frank H. Littell and Hubert G. Locke
(Detroit: Wayne State University
Press, 1974), 25-26.

20. One excellent reference for the subject of Anglo-Israelism is Walter R.
Martin's The Kingdom of the Cults, ch. 12 (Bethany, revised and expanded
edition, 1985). Also see, J.K.
Van Baalen, The Chaos of Cults: A Study in Present-Day Isms, ch. 9
(Eerdmans, 1967), and Anton Darms, The Delusion of British-Israelism
(Loizeaux Brothers, Bible Truth Depot,
n.d.), written before the establishment of the State of Israel. This latter
book is written from a dispensational view.

21. Derek Kidner, Genesis: An Introduction and Commentary, Old Testament
Commentaries, ed. D.J. Wisemam (Downer Grove, IL: InterVarsity Press, 1989),
104-5.

22. Wilhelm Niemller, "The Niemller Archives," in Littell and Locke, 55.

                                 Work Cited

Larson, Viola. "Identity: A 'Christian' Religion for White Racists"
Christian Research Journal, Fall 1992, p. 20

               Copyright 1993 by the Christian Research Institute.

          COPYRIGHT/REPRODUCTION LIMITATIONS: This data file is the sole
property of the Christian Research Institute. It may not be altered or
edited in any way.
          It may be reproduced only in its entirety for circulation as
"freeware," without charge. All reproductions of this data file must contain
the copyright notice (i.e.,
          "Copyright 1993 by the Christian Research Institute"). This data
file may not be used without the permission of the Christian Research
Institute for resale or the
          enhancement of any other product sold. This includes all of its
content with the exception of a few brief quotations not to exceed more than
500 words.

          If you desire to reproduce less than 500 words of this data file
for resale or the enhancement of any other product for resale, please give
the following source
          credit: Copyright 1993 by the Christian Research Institute, P.O.
Box 500, San Juan Capistrano, CA 92693.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Why I read ...!
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 19:57:21 -0400
From: Charles 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

kb13131@aol.com wrote:
> I don't have the slightest idea what you are talking about.  Can you
> please give some examples?  I'm not a slave to any international
> banker, as far as I know.
>
> Kurt Buchanan

  Kurt if you have any dealings with the Bankers, pay the IRS extortion
money for working or making a living... own land or property you pay
taxes
on you are indeed a slave! You are a slave to the system and the proof
is if
you try to remove yourself from that system you will be hurassed untill
you
rejoin it or jailed if you refuse. American have traded in their God
given
rights for privileges and licenses. But I am sure there are many people
who
would still argue that American is a land of freedom... just make sure
your
quest for freedem agreeses with all their rules licenses and permits
first!

Charles

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: The Archko Volume - 6
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 20:30:11 -0400
From: Charles 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

Willie
can you resend The Archko Volume 1
I somehow missed it or deleted it.

Thanks

Charles

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Identity - 2
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 20:38:29 -0400
From: Charles 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

can you also resend Identity -1

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: What is really going on here.
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 20:58:19 -0400
From: americans@grove.net
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

READ PSL. 139 20-22 ... then Luke 19-27 ... Rev. 2-9 and 3-9 ... YOU are
living under the delusions of the whore. John 8-44 Yahshua called them what
they ARE !!! Your words tell us who you are !

Ramon Sparks

At 01:02 PM 8/30/99 -0700, you wrote:
>philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
>original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=529
>> In a message dated 8/30/99 3:29:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>yk@jps.net
>> writes:
>>
>> << The Bible provides no sanctuary for those who
>>  would hate Jews.
>>
>>  Philip Mathews
>>   >>
>>
>>
>> Paul wrote that the Jews lost their covenant with God so I hope you
>aren't
>> referring to them as the chosen people.
>
>Even if true, one thing would have nothing to do with the other. Do you
>have scriptural citation on this? There is no way the Lord I worship
>would do anything but condemn the hatred of Jews I see expressed on
>this list.
>
>Philip Mathews
>
>
>
>
>> Michael Snead
>
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
>http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications
>
>
>
>

Thought for the Day:

"The Compromise of principals for peace results in SLAVERY"

R. Sparks

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: What is really going on here.
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 21:14:22 EDT
From: SNEADSTER@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

In a message dated 8/30/99 4:06:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
philnancy@aol.com writes:

<< Even if true, one thing would have nothing to do with the other. Do you
 have scriptural citation on this? There is no way the Lord I worship
 would do anything but condemn the hatred of Jews I see expressed on
 this list.

 Philip Mathews
  >>

Philip,
    Read the entire chapter of Hebrews 8. I have not seen or heard of any
hatred on this list. As a matter of Fact these people have been patient with
your sarcasm and snide remarks. To hate a lie is not to hate a person, and to
trust a liar is a fool. You worship the Lord?  OK I will bite. Let's go for a
conversion. Philip, are you Baptist, Nazarene, Catholic? Or are you into
Judaism?
Michael Snead
14/88

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: [What is really going on here.]
Date: 30 Aug 99 20:29:22 CDT
From: Bill Hoyt 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

SNEADSTER@aol.com wrote:

> Paul wrote that the Jews lost their covenant with God so I hope
> you aren't referring to them as the chosen people.

"Is He the God of the Jews only?  Is He not of the Gentiles?  Yes, of the
Gentiles also" Romans 3:29

"Bretheren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is that they might
be saved.  For I bear them record that they have a zeal for God, but not
according to knowledge.  For they are ignorant of God's righteousness, and
going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted
themselves to the righteousness of God" Romans 10:1-3

"I say then, hath God cast away His people?  God forbid!  For I am also an
Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the Tribe of Benjamin.  God Hath not
cast away his people whom He foreknew"  Romans 11:1-2a

"I say then, have they stumbled that they should fall?  God forbid!  But
rather that through their fall salvation has come to the Gentiles, to provoke
them to jealousy"  Romans 11:11

"For I would not, bretheren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, that
you should become wise in your own conceits, that blindness in part has
happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles has come in"  Romans
11:25

"As concerning the Gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching
the election, they are beloved for their fathers' sakes.  For the gifts and
calling of God are without repentance.  For as you in times past have not
believed, that through your mercy they may also obtain mercy.  For God hath
concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all."  Romans
11:28-32

____________________________________________________________________
Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: What is really going on here.
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 18:33:16 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=551
> READ PSL. 139 20-22 ... then Luke 19-27 ... Rev. 2-9 and 3-9 ... YOU
are
> living under the delusions of the whore. John 8-44 Yahshua called
them what
> they ARE !!! Your words tell us who you are !

I'm sorry, but you're ranting.

Philip Mathews

>
>
> Ramon Sparks
>
>
>
>
> At 01:02 PM 8/30/99 -0700, you wrote:
> >philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
> >original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=529
> >> In a message dated 8/30/99 3:29:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> >yk@jps.net
> >> writes:
> >>
> >> << The Bible provides no sanctuary for those who
> >>  would hate Jews.
> >>
> >>  Philip Mathews
> >>   >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Paul wrote that the Jews lost their covenant with God so I hope you
> >aren't
> >> referring to them as the chosen people.
> >
> >Even if true, one thing would have nothing to do with the other. Do
you
> >have scriptural citation on this? There is no way the Lord I worship
> >would do anything but condemn the hatred of Jews I see expressed on
> >this list.
> >
> >Philip Mathews
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> Michael Snead
> >
> >

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Belzec investigation - mass graves found
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 19:00:12 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=439
> So now where is your proof they were JEWS?

Nazi documentary evidence, speeches and diaries indicate they were
killing Jews. The perpetrators, including those who ran the camps
admitted to killing Jews. Demographic studies done after the war found
millions of missing Jews. The evidence is overwhelming.

 Are jews the only people
> who were killed durring WW2 or are you only interested in the death
> of jews?

We're not talking about deaths due to war. We'er talking about a
genocide of noncombatants just because they were Jews. Men, women, and
children, 6 million of them, in a deliberate, despicable systematic
process.

 I am in no way upholding hitler or the nazi's but what about
> American bombers how many innocent Germans did they kill?

Innocent civilian casualties always accompany wars. The civilians of
those nations at war are at risk, and most combatant nations
experienced them. But those are the risks nations take when nations
start or defend themselves against agression. This has nothing to do
with Jews, or Roma, or others who were exterminated not as an act of
war, but to suit the racial theories of a mad man.

 and How do
> you cremate a body in a baking oven ?

The ovens used were crematoria ovens.

 Wake up!!!! this is 1999 and
> most everyone who was responsiible for thoes mass graves in now in
> a grave most likely. give it a rest please!

As long as there are those who for hateful reasons try to propound the
non-occurence of the Holocaust of Jews there will be no rest.

Philip Mathews

>
> Charles
>
> >philnancy@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
> > original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=422
> > > People die during a war, it has happened all over the
> > > world. They also die for many things and most are buried!
> > >
> > > Maybe they should drill for traces of Tay - Sachs !
> >
> > People don't just happen to die and end up in mass graves on the
site
> > of a know extermination camp. Together with Nazi admissions and
> > documentary evidence, the actions of Nazi Germany with respect to
Jews
> > and others is beyond doubt.
> >
> > Philip Mathews

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: What is really going on here.
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 19:21:02 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=552
> In a message dated 8/30/99 4:06:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> philnancy@aol.com writes:
>
> << Even if true, one thing would have nothing to do with the other.
Do you
>  have scriptural citation on this? There is no way the Lord I worship
>  would do anything but condemn the hatred of Jews I see expressed on
>  this list.
>
>  Philip Mathews
>   >>
>
> Philip,
>     Read the entire chapter of Hebrews 8. I have not seen or heard of
any
> hatred on this list.

Oh, please, who do you think you're kidding. Here's a few samples from
a few days.

When i was
growing up i was also taught that the jews were GOD'S CHOSEN PEOPLE.
Here in Alabama where i live our newly elected CLOSET JEW DON SIEGELMAN
and his OPENLY JEW wife have now passed a law that the holocaust must be
extensivly taught and studied in Alabama public schools. I DON'T GIVE A
DAMN ABOUT WHETHER THE HOLOCAUST OR THE CIVIL WAR HAPPENED OR NOT!! As
an adult i've studied BOTH SIDES of the issue instead of ONE. And the
number one thing that i've learned is THE PLAIN TRUTH ABOUT THE JEWS!!!
THEY ARE LIARS AND ANTICHRISTS.

I'm sorry, I just had to LOL when I read this!  :)  Too bad those
little
buggers really were the only ones killed by the treatment, and not
their
hosts, as they would have us believe.

which were common on the body of jews.

Enough of this...there was NO holocaust! That's a jewish myth, a
HoloHoax.
Although it may be that the gas they claim to have been gassed with was
developed by a jew... That would figure. nuff said.

In Mein Kampf (http://www.crusader.net/texts/mk/), Hitler warns that
the
Jews intend to "devour the nations of the earth" (V.2, Ch.5, Ch.13).
~~~~~~~
Me: He was and is right. You know, the eternal parasite.

These are the types that will hang from the lamposts!  One of our
agenda's
is to clean out the jewish garbage and ideas from the college's and
higher
learning establishment's across this land!

~~~~~~

 As a matter of Fact these people have been patient with
> your sarcasm and snide remarks.

A patently false statement, as the record shows.

 To hate a lie is not to hate a person, and to
> trust a liar is a fool.

To believe a lie because you hate is a sin.

 You worship the Lord?  OK I will bite. Let's go for a
> conversion. Philip, are you Baptist, Nazarene, Catholic? Or are you
into
> Judaism?

Irrelevant to the discussion. The comments about Jews on this list reek
of hatred and the lies told about them and the events of history
attached to them, bear witness to that fact. And yet you prefer to
concern yourself with nonexistent sarcasm and snideness!

Philip Mathews

> Michael Snead
> 14/88

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Edom:Modern Jewry
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 19:34:08 PDT
From: "Jeanne-Marie Zimmerman" 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

One wrote:

Paul wrote that the Jews lost their covenant with God so I hope
you aren't referring to them as the chosen people.
~~~~~~~
Another said in part:
"Is He the God of the Jews only?  Is He not of the Gentiles?  Yes, of the
Gentiles also" Romans 3:29

"Bretheren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is that they
might be saved.  For I bear them record that they have a zeal for God, but
not according to knowledge.  For they are ignorant of God's righteousness,
and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted
themselves to the righteousness of God" Romans 10:1-3 happened to Israel,
until the fulness of the Gentiles has come in."  Romans 11:25
~~~~~~~
Me:
The Encyclopedia Judaica as well as the Jewish Encyclopedias
state, "Edom is in modern Jewry." Therefore, Jews of today have no link to
this scripture. It was also Rabbi Stephen Wise who said that Communism is
Jewish. Of course, telling the truth is hate, but truth is always hate to
those who hate the truth.
JM

"Wahrheit ist unser Erbe"

"The great ideal of Judaism is that the whole world shall be imbued with
Jewish teachings, and that in a universal brotherhood of nations - a greater
Judaism in fact - all the separate races and religions shall disappear."
(Jewish World, February 9, 1883)

______________________________________________________

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Willie: Kick these Bastards Off
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 21:35:17 -0500
From: "Teacher of YHVH" 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
Organization: Christian Soldiers
To: <13texan@egroups.com>

We would appriciate it if you did, Willie.
Sherry & Oscar

----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Kadach 
To: <13texan@egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 8:26 PM
Subject: [13texan] Re: Willie: Kick these Bastards Off

> At 09:25 AM 8/29/99 PDT, you wrote:
> >You should take his advice, or your wife will really get ripped!
> >
> >Philip Mathews
>
>
>
> Perhaps you had this one in mind when you mentioned my wife.
>
>
> >> Forum: alt.revisionism
>                          >> Thread: GIVE ED KADACH A CALL
>                            >> Message 1176 of 1282
>
>
>                    Subject:
>                           GIVE ED KADACH A CALL
>                    Date:
>                           1998/09/10
>                    Author:
>                           NAZIHUNTER 
>                             Posting History
>
>
>                     WHY NOT GIVE A CALL TO THE ANTI-SEMITIC PIG ED KADACH?
>
>                     ED KADACH
>                     XXXX-XXX ST NW
>                     EDMONTON, ALBERTA
>                     T6H 2Z7
>
>
>                     403-XXX-XXXXX
>
>
>                     IF HE IS NOT HOME, LET HIS WIFE KNOW WHAT A PIECE OF
WORK
>                     HER HUSBAND IS.
>
>
> "All truth passes through three stages. First,
> it is ridiculed; second it is violently opposed;
> and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
> ---Schopenhauer
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
> Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
> http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/805
>
>
> eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
> http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications
>
>
>
>
>

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online.
Start with up to 150 Points for joining!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/805

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: What is really going on here.
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 22:36:13 -0400
From: americans@grove.net
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

No sir , no rantings ....just straight to the point . If you embrace HIS
enemies .. then you are our enemy!

Ramon

At 06:33 PM 8/30/99 -0700, you wrote:
>philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
>original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=551
>> READ PSL. 139 20-22 ... then Luke 19-27 ... Rev. 2-9 and 3-9 ... YOU
>are
>> living under the delusions of the whore. John 8-44 Yahshua called
>them what
>> they ARE !!! Your words tell us who you are !
>
>I'm sorry, but you're ranting.
>
>Philip Mathews
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> Ramon Sparks
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> At 01:02 PM 8/30/99 -0700, you wrote:
>> >philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
>> >original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=529
>> >> In a message dated 8/30/99 3:29:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>> >yk@jps.net
>> >> writes:
>> >>
>> >> << The Bible provides no sanctuary for those who
>> >>  would hate Jews.
>> >>
>> >>  Philip Mathews
>> >>   >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Paul wrote that the Jews lost their covenant with God so I hope you
>> >aren't
>> >> referring to them as the chosen people.
>> >
>> >Even if true, one thing would have nothing to do with the other. Do
>you
>> >have scriptural citation on this? There is no way the Lord I worship
>> >would do anything but condemn the hatred of Jews I see expressed on
>> >this list.
>> >
>> >Philip Mathews
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> Michael Snead
>> >
>> >
>
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
>http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications
>
>
>
>

Thought for the Day:

"The Compromise of principals for peace results in SLAVERY"

R. Sparks

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: What is really going on here.
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 22:58:35 -0400
From: Charles 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

There is a virse in the bible where it says God hated
Easus can anyone remember that the virse is?
My point is, no matter how liberal a "christian" can
get do they thing God expects you to do something he
would not ?
---

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
JEWISH RITUAL MURDER - INTRODUCTION

FROM: GOAL Reference Library - http://www.melvig.org/

                        My Irrelevant Defence, Being
                     Meditations Inside Gaol and Out on

                            JEWISH RITUAL MURDER

                              by ARNOLD LEESE

                                INTRODUCTION
      ON 15th July, 1936, Mr. Oliver Locker-Lampson, M.P., a childhood
   friend of the Rothschild family, asked in the House of Commons whether
    the Attorney-General proposed to institute legal proceedings against
   the authors or publishers of The Fascist, the issue of that paper for
   July containing allegations against the Jews of the practice of ritual
      murder. The Attorney-General replied that the matter was under a
                               consideratlon.

   As an ultimate result of this "consideration," I was sentenced to six
     months' imprisonment among criminals on 21st September, 1936, the
   Judge in the case being a 31st Degree Mason of the Scottish Rite. But
    it is important to note that the conviction was obtained, not on the
        ritual murder issue alone, which was not relied upon by the
   Prosecution for the purpose of silencing me, but on the whole contents
       of the July Fascist, and particularly on words used by me with
                   reference to the disposal of the Jews.

    Under the law of libel, the truth of my statements with reference to
    Ritual Murder could not be used as an argument in my defence; it was
   deemed sufficient under the law that the statements had been written,
   and that they "rendered His Majesty's subjects of Jewish faith liable
       to suspicion, affront and boycott" and so amounted to a Public
                                 Mischief.

   I came to Court very fully prepared, if the truth of my statements was
    challenged, to justify the statements I had made in The Fascist, and
    was even ready to demand that "Rex," the prosecutor, should produce
    from the Public Records Office certain Close and Patent Rolls of the
   State wherein Jewish Ritual Murder is recorded as an established fact
   in this country! But I was forbidden by the Judge to use this line of
    defence; it did not matter who else had charged the Jews with ritual
    murder, or how often, or what historic facts proved it, or how many
     convictions there had been under proper juridical authority; thus,
      when I asked Inspector Kitchener, the only witness who appeared
   against me, "When you brought this case, were you under the impression
   that Ritual Murder was a thing of the past?" and he replied "Yes," the
   Judge intervened with the remark "The truth of a libel is no defense,
                          I must point out again."

    Again, the Attorney-General, who was acting as Prosecuting Counsel,
      interrupted another question of mine to the same witness, by the
       remark: "In my submission, it is correctly laid down that the
     defendant is in no case allowed to prove the trash of a seditious
     libel as a justification for having published it." The Judge then
     said, "That is the law as I understand it." He made it clear to me
   that to proceed further in such a line of defence would be contempt of
   court, as the "truth" of the "libel" was "irrelevant" to the issue of
           the trial! Such may be the law, but it is not justice!

     The last thing the Judaeo-Masonic Hidden Hand wanted was the truth
                            about Ritual Murder!

      Since I came out of prison on 6th February, 1937, I have, until
   recently, been too busy to write on the subject of Ritual Murder; but
    finding that there are, even among anti-Jewish workers, people who,
     never having investigated the matter for themselves, still imagine
   that Jewish Ritual Murder not only has not existed and does not exist,
   but is a fiction invented by crazy anti-Jewish fanatics, and as such,
   exploited by me, in my campaign against the Jews, it becomes necessary
     for me to take steps to defend my own reputation as a man of good
                faith by compiling and publishing this book.

   What the court procedure prevented me from doing in my own defence, I
        do now in these pages, and I have no anxiety concerning the
         conclusions at which my readers will arrive on the matter.

   The subject of Ritual Murder has always been one that the Jewish Money
    Power, which controls this country as well as most others, has taken
    all possible steps to suppress. The reason is that Ritual Murder was
   the dynamite which finally blew the Jew out of England in 1290, out of
   Spain in 1492, and out of Germany in our time. The Jews know it; and I
                                know it too!

     But there is no British law, and no 11th Commandment, which makes
    Ritual Murder by Jews a forbidden topic in this country. Sir Richard
   Burton's book about it was published shortly after his death near the
   end of the last century; Strack's book, defending the Jews against the
    accusation, was translated and published in England in 1909; whilst
     the Jew, C. Roth, published his Ritual Murder Libel and the Jew in
    1935. In France, as in Germany, there is free speech on the subject.

      I challenge and defy the Judaeo-Masonic Power, which rules this
    country, by publishing the present work in 1938, not only in my own
   defence, but in the public interest to break the attack on Free Speech
      that is rapidly developing wherever any criticism of the past or
    present conduct of Jews is concerned an attack which relies for its
      success upon the ridiculous charge that a breach of the peace is
    likely if the truth about them is spoken! I do so in order that the
    Jews shall not escape simply through the power of Money and Masonry
     from bearing the burden of a charge which, in my opinion, has been
   proved against some of them through the ages. My object is, and always
    has been, in spite of what my Masonic Judge had to say about it, to
    alter "a matter of State established," namely the status of Jews in
       this country on an equality with Britons, a condition which is
     imperilling our civilization, and to enlighten the public on their
    true nature as beings possessing instincts utterly incompatible with
     our own, so that they may be removed, legally and peacefully, to a
   National Home in which they will be required to live together. In this
    aim, I keep troth with the greatest of English kings, Edward I, who
                expelled the Jews from these shores in 1290.

   The maintenance of Free Speech demands that Jewish Ritual Murder shall
     be a subject for open discussion, like Suttee and Thuggee and the
    sacrifices of Aztec Mexico, all of which were ritual murders which,
    like the Jewish variety, would be practised to-day if the Aryan had
    not interfered to prevent them. If the world thinks that I have not,
    in this book, proved my case, let it laugh ! I can bear it ! But can
   the Jews? The Jewish Chronicle (25th September, 1936) complained after
    my trial was over that there had been no opportunity for the Jews to
        refute the charge of Ritual Murder. Well, they have one now!

                               ARNOLD LEESE.
                              1st March, 1938.

    In compiling this work I have received the most valuable assistance
    from certain members of the Imperial Fascist League, who require no
   thanks for that help. I should like to acknowledge the guidance I have
     received in private letters from Sir. G., of Bristol, and from the
   work, Le Crime Rituel chez les Juifs, by Mr. A. Monniot; also from the
          articles contained in Mr. A. Arcand's now defunct paper.

                 __________________________________________

                       Continue on to Next Chapter or
                       Go Back to Table of Contents?
                    Return to the GOAL Reference Library

2
 CHAPTER IV

                             MOTIVE & NATURE OF
                            JEWISH RITUAL MURDER
   THE motive of Ritual Murder of Christians by Jews is almost certainly
    hate. It is in fact the same motive that Disraeli admitted to be the
   cause of revolutionary activities against Gentile governments; to use
            his words (from Life of Lord George Bentinck, 1852):

      "The people of God co-operate with atheists -- the most skilful
   accumulators of property ally themselves with Communists; the peculiar
      and chosen Race touch the hand of all the scum and low castes of
    Europe -- and all this because they wish to destroy that ungrateful
    Christendom which owes to them even its name, and whose tyranny they
                           can no longer endure."

   Hatred of Christianity is a tradition among the Jews: just as hate of
     England is a sort of perverted religion among an inferior class of
      Irishmen. It must be remembered that the Hymn of Hate which was
   debited to the Germans during the war was actually written by the Jew
                                 Lissauer.

   One of the principal Jewish feast-days is that of Purim. This feast is
   an orgy of hate against Haman, the story of whom is found in the Book
    of Esther of the Old Testament. The story, which is probably a myth,
   is that Xerxes, King of Persia, became enamoured of a Jewess, Esther,
    and made her Queen in place of his rightful wife. Haman, the King's
   sister, complained to him of the conduct of the Jews who, he said did
    not keep the laws, and obtained from the King an order to slay them.
   Esther pleaded with the King and prevailed upon him to summon Haman to
     a banquet. There, Queen Esther further prevailed upon the King to
   spare the Jews and hang Haman on a gallows prepared for the execution
    of her guardian. Instead of the Jews being destroyed, their enemies
       were slaughtered, including Haman's ten sons, who were hanged.

        This feast is often celebrated by an exhibition of gluttony,
   intoxication, and curses on the memory of Haman; and even to this day
     in London, the Jewish bakers make cakes in the shape of human ears
     which are eaten by the Jews on this day, and are called " Haman's
   Ears," revealing once again the inherent hate and barbarism of the Jew
                               in our midst.

    The two principal feast-days associated with Ritual Murder have been
   (1) Purim, and (2) Passover, the latter at Easter and the former about
    one month before it. When a Ritual Murder occurred at Purim, it was
   usually that of an adult Christian who was murdered for his blood; it
   is said that the blood was dried and the powder mixed into triangular
      cakes for eating; it is possible that the dried blood of a Purim
         murder might sometimes be used for the following Passover.

    When a Ritual Murder was done at Passover, it was usually that of a
    child under seven years old, as perfect a specimen as possible, who
     was not only bled white, but crucified, sometimes circumcised and
   crowned with thorns, tortured, beaten, stabbed, and sometimes finished
   off by wounding in the side in imitation of the murder of Christ. The
    blood taken from the child was mixed either in the powdered state or
                     otherwise into the Passover bread.

       Another festival at which it is thought that Ritual Murder has
     sometimes been indulged in is Chanucah, which occurs in December,
    commemorating the recovery of Jerusalem under the Maccabees in B.C.
                                    165.

   Examples of Purim murders are those of Damascus, Rhodes, Xanten Polna,
                          Gladbeck and Paderborn.

    Although hate is the principal motive, superstitious traditions are
   also involved, one being the association of blood-sacrifices with the
   idea of atonement; some Jews have confessed that Jewry cannot be saved
      or return to Zion unless every year the blood of a Christian is
              obtained for the purpose of ritual consumption.

      Political murders, such as the Jewish murder of the Tsar and his
      family and of other Russians, have sometimes been accompanied by
    features suggestive of ritual, but I do not wish to complicate this
     book by guessing at the meaning of signs left symbolically by the
                                 murderers.

                 __________________________________________


                                CHAPTER V

                            A RELIC OF THE DAYS
                               OF WITCHCRAFT
                              AND BLACK MAGIC
   ON 6th May, 1912, The Times published a letter, signed by many men of
     authority, protesting against what they called the revival of "the
   hideous charge of Ritual Murder" which was being brought against a Jew
   at Kiev. "The Blood Accusation," they said, "is a relic of the days of
                        Witchcraft and Black Magic."

    Unfortunately for the signatories of this letter, who numbered among
     them the Archbishops of Canterbury, York and Armagh, the Cardinal
     Archbishop of Westminster, Bishops galore, Dukes, Earls, Justices,
   Masters of Colleges and Editors, of that period, the Blood Accusation
     has nothing medieval about it at all; it was more rife in the 19th
                   century than it was in medieval times!

     Unfortunately also, Black Magic is in the same category. It is not
     medieval either; there never was a wider cult of Black Magic than
                   there is in the year of Our Lord 1938!

    How extraordinary it is that influential men can be induced to sign
    such a statement as I have quoted! And how strange it is that, where
    Jewish interests are at stake, these same influential Christian men
   will see nothing improper in attempting to prejudice the course of the
    criminal trial of the Jew Beiliss at Kiev, a course which they would
                      never pursue in any other cause!

   Let us confound the signatories of The Times letter out of the mouths
      of Jews themselves. The Jewish Encyclopedia, 1903, Vol. III, pp.
    266-7, gives a list of Accusations of Ritual Murder made against the
     Jews through the centuries; 122 cases are listed in chronological
     order, and no less than 39 of them were made in the 19th century!
    There were far more than double the number of Blood Accusations made
    in the 19th century than in any previous century, according to this
                         authoritative Jewish list.

       Let us examine the list of Ritual Murder Accusations made by a
     converted Jew, Cesare Algranati, in 1913, and published in Cahiers
   Romains; here are listed 101 accusations, of which 28 were made in the
    19th century and only 73 for all the eight preceding centuries! Even
   the Jew Roth gives the argument away, for he says (p. 16 of his Ritual
   Murder Libel and the Jew, 1935), "The nineteenth century proved little
               less credulous than those which preceded it."

      "Anti-semitic" authors' lists of Blood Accusations agree in this
   respect with the lists made by Jews; Der Sturmer, the paper of Julius
    Streicher, in a special Ritual Murder issue published in 1934, shows
   that in the 19th century 32 charges of ritual murder were made, which
   is ten more than in any other century in European history recorded by
                                    it.

    The fact that the charges increase in number as the age becomes more
    and more enlightened is particularly significant, because the Jewish
   Money Power and its silencing activities are more developed than ever
    before and might have been expected to reduce the number of charges.

   Sufficient has now been said to expose the absurdity of any attempt to
            consign the Blood Accusation to any medieval limbo.

   It lives today; I may say with the great Sir Richard Burton (The Jew,
    the Gypsy and El Islam, 1898, P. 129): "At any rate, sufficient has
    been advanced in these pages to open the eyes of the student and the
            ethnographer; it will stand on record until Elijah."

                 __________________________________________

                                CHAPTER VI

                            COULDN'T HAPPEN NOW?
   THIS argument, "It couldn't happen now," seems quite good enough for a
      lot of people when it is applied to the matter of Jewish Ritual
     Murder. It is, perhaps, comforting to the democratic mind to think
       that "Progress" ensures that such an evil practice, even if it
      occurred in unenlightened days, could not have survived to-day.

    I wish I could see any comfort in this argument, but I don't. There
                        are no facts to support it.

     That the Aryan peoples have progressed I do-not deny; but I do not
    think there is any evidence to show any like progress among some of
                              the other races.

          Compare the following two happenings, noting the dates:

   A.D. 117. From the account of Dio (Cassius in 78th Book of his history
                                Chapter 32:

   "Then the Jews in Cyrene (on the modern Tripoli coast of North Africa)
   choosing as their leader one Andreas, slew the Romans and Greeks, and
     devoured their bodies, drank the blood, clothed themselves in the
     flayed skins, and sawed many in half from the head downwards; some
   they threw to wild beasts and others were compelled to fight in single
     combat, so that in all 220,000 were killed. In Egypt they did many
    similar things, also its Cyprus, led by one of them named Artemion;
                   and there another 40,000 were slain."

   A.D. 1936. From Daily Mail, 17th September (describing the horrors of
                       the Red Revolution in Spain):

      "Baena (Cordoba Province): Ninety-one assassinations, mostly by
   shooting, hatchet blows, or strangling. Others were burned alive. Two
    nuns who had been dragged from the convent of the Mother of God, had
   their religious medals with the figure of the Virgin, nailed into the
                           sockets of their eyes.

      "La Campana (Seville): Reds, led by a woman, Concepcion Velarde
   Caraballo, who either killed or was responsible for killing 11 persons
    in prison. The prisoners were fired on until they fell, covered with
    petrol, and set on fire. Some were still writhing in the flames when
                           the city was entered.

    "Lore del Rio (Seville): 138 assassinated. They were dragged to the
    cemetery, lined up, and shot in the legs, being buried alive as they
   fell in a trench. When the town was entered hands could still be seen
                        writhing above the ground."

     I cannot see much difference in outlook between the Jewish devils
       responsible for both these massacres, even though there are 15
                          centuries between them!

   In view of that, why boggle at the idea of Jewish Ritual Murder still
                                 surviving?

   Why make such a fuss when Jews are charged with the practice of Ritual
   Murder? Other Asiatics are known to have practised it until 1850, and,
     if left to themselves, would doubtless have maintained the custom.

   In India, from 10,000 to 50,000 murders were perpetrated every year by
      a religious body known as the Thugs. They were mostly people of
   Mahommedan extraction, but a number of Hindus were also involved. They
    used to worship Kali, the Hindu goddess of destruction. Their custom
   was to club together, generally as travellers, when they would slowly
    gain the confidence of some innocent person, and at a given signal,
    would strangle him in a prescribed manner, which they regarded as a
      religious duty; then they would rob him if he had anything to be
   robbed of, and bury the body with such skill as to leave no trace. The
    Thugs actually received the protection of some of the native princes
    and chiefs who were thoroughly frightened of their power as a secret
   religious sect. How this reminds us of the attitude of the influential
     men in this country who adopt the same view of Masonry and Jewry!

    Then the British Government decided the thing must stop. After many
    years of investigation, Sir W. H. Sleeman stamped out the Thug sect,
   and no Thuggee murders are on record since 1850. He found that Thuggee
     was hereditary among male members of a family, and he achieved his
    object by confining in segregation for life all male members of Thug
                                 families.

      Now my point is that Thuggee happened; and happened in the 19th
     century until the British put an end to it under Sleeman. It was a
    long time before the British administration learned of the existence
   of Thuggee, so carefully was it concealed; another analogy with Jewish
                               Ritual Murder!

                     "It couldn't happen now." Why not?

     And on 13th September, 1937, a telegram was sent to The Times from
   Delhi reporting the sacrifice of a 17-year-old youth to propitiate the
    rain-god, in Sirmoor State. The youth was led through the village of
       Gunpur by a crowd of people headed by a priest and the village
      headman, and beheaded on a special altar to the accompaniment of
   devotional songs. The head was found by the police at the foot of the
                        deity in the village temple.

    As Aryan rule over India relaxes, Thuggee and other human sacrifices
                              will re-appear.

                 "It couldn't happen now." Why not, again?

    Here is an extract from Magick by the "Master Therion", published in
       1929 by the Lecram Press, 26 Rue d'Hautpool, Paris, pp. 94-5:

     ". . . it was the theory of the ancient magicians that any living
    being is a storehouse of energy varying in quantity according to the
   size and health of the animal, and in quality according to its mental
       and moral character. At the death of the animal this energy is
    liberated suddenly. The animal should therefore be killed within the
     Circle, or Triangle, as the case may be, so that its energy cannot
     escape.... For the highest spiritual working one must accordingly
     choose that victim which contains the greatest and purest force. A
     male child of perfect innocence and high intelligence is the most
                         satisfactory and suitable

    A footnote on p. 95 says "(4) It appears from the Magical Records of
   Frater Perdurabo that he made this particular sacrifice on an average
        about 150 times every year between 1912 e.v. and 1928 e.v."

     This footnote refers to the last sentence in the paragraph quoted
                                   above.

          "It couldn't happen now." Why not, in the Devil's name?

      Sir Richard Burton show us that the disappearance of children at
       Passover was talked of in Rome and in the other towns of Italy
   throughout the early part of the 19th century when efficient policing
   was unknown, as also throughout the century at Smyrna and other places
                        in the Levant and in Turkey.

     It couldn't happen now? But the Jewish method of cattle slaughter
       happens now and is specially exempted from the objects of the
    Slaughter of Animals Act, 1933, which Act orders that all cattle for
    Gentile food must be stunned with a mechanically-operated instrument
   before the throat is cut. The Jewish method is cutting the throat from
    ear to ear without any previous stunning. It has been condemned by a
     Government Commission held in 1904 as failing in rapidity, freedom
    from unnecessary pain and instantaneous loss of sensibility. Yet it
   "happens now" and is protected in this our England, by an English Law,
     and remains unattacked by the Royal Society for the Prevention of
                            Cruelty to Animals.

                        Why couldn't it happen now?

     To this day, we learn from Jewish sources (B'nai B'rith Messenger,
   California, 3rd April, 1936) that the Samaritans, an unorthodox Jewish
       sect who keep Passover by solar computation, indulge in bloody
     sacrifices of animals on that feast-day; an account is given of a
   visit to the scene of sacrifice on Mount Gerizim in the 20th century,
                         and these word, are used:

    "I have heard the wild, primitive scream of triumph as the knife is
             withdrawn from the neck of the lamb of sacrifice."

   Here is a paragraph from a periodical which shall be unnamed, of 1936,
           showing that the urge to the "Mysteries" is not dead:

     "The sophisticated Pharisee of the 20th century unceasingly gives
    thanks that he has outgrown the fables and rituals of the Ancients.
     The worldly-wise man loves the evident and is exasperated by that
        which is not evident. Plutocrat and proletarian alike regard
   themselves as victimised by that person whose words or actions they do
    not understand. We love the obvious because it flatters us, and hate
    the mysterious because it damns our intelligence with faint praise.
   Riddles are irksome. The modern cry is for facts. Yet, with facts for
   his fetish, the modernist is more foolish than his forebears. Decrying
    superstition, he is most superstitious; rejecting fancies, he is the
    fanciful product of a fictitious age. The modern world is bored with
    its own importance; life itself has become a botheration. Suffering
   from chronic ennui, how can a world ever become interested in anything
   but itself? Smothered in their self-complacency, these all-sufficient
        ones ask for facts. But what facts are there that fools can
     understand? How can the helpless superficial grasp the hopelessly
          profound, for are not realities reserved for the wise?"

   Alongside this clotted nonsense was a picture of a ritual murder, with
    the victim crucified, below it, a portrait of the author, an obvious
                                    Jew.

       I take it that- "it would happen now" if this Jew had his way!

                 __________________________________________
3

                                CHAPTER VII

        JEWISH RITUAL MURDER IN ENGLAND BEFORE THE EXPULSION OF 1290
    THE first known case happened in 1144; after that, cases cropped up
      from time to time until the Jews were expelled from the realm by
    Edward I. The most famous of these cases was that of Little St. Hugh
   of Lincoln in 1255. I record these cases in chronological order; and I
      do not deny the possibility of some of them in which details are
     lacking, being "trumped-up" ones, where death may have been due to
    causes other than ritual murder and the Jews blamed for it; but the
   case of St. Hugh, particularly, was juridically decided, and the Close
      and Patent Rolls of the Realm record definitely cases at London,
   Winchester and Oxford. There seems no reason to doubt that many cases
       of ritual murder have been unsuspected and even undiscovered.

      1144- Norwich. A twelve-year-old boy was crucified and his side
   pierced at the Jewish Passover. His body was found in a sack hidden in
   a tree. A converted Jew, called Theobald of Cambridge, confessed that
     the Jews took blood every year from a Christian child because they
   thought that only by so doing could they ever obtain their freedom and
     return to Palestine, and that it was their custom to draw lots to
    decide whence the blood was to be supplied; Theobald said that last
   year the lot fell to Narbonne but in this year to Norwich. The boy was
    locally beatified and has ever since been known as St. William. The
       Sheriff, probably bribed, refused to bring the Jews to trial.

      In J. C. Cox's Norfolk Churches, Vol. II, p. 47, as also in the
   Victoria Country History of Norfolk, 1906, Vol. II, is an illustration
      of an old painted rood-screen depicting the Ritual Murder of St.
    William, the screen itself is in Loddon Church, Norfolk, unless the
   Power of Jewish Money has had it removed. No one denies this case as a
      historical event, but the Jews of course say it was not a Ritual
    Murder. The Jew, C. Roth, in his The Ritual Murder Libel and the Jew
      (1935) says: "Modern enquirers, after careful examination of the
    facts, have concluded that the child probably lost consciousness in
     consequence of a cataleptic fit, and was buried prematurely by his
    relatives." How these modern enquiries arrived at a conclusion like
       that after all these years, Mr. Roth does not say; nor is it a
   compliment to the Church to suggest that its ministers would allow the
   boy's death to be celebrated as a martyrdom of a saint without having
   satisfied themselves that wounds on the body confirmed the crucifixion
    and the piercing of the side. And why the relatives should bury the
    boy in a sack and then dig it up and hang it in a tree would puzzle
                           even a Jew to explain.

      John Foxe's Arts and Monuments of the Church records this ritual
      murder, as did the Bollandists and other historians. The Prior,
      William Turbe, who afterwards became Bishop of Norwich, was the
     leading light in insisting that the crime was one of Jewish Ritual
   Murder; in the Dictionary of National Biography (edited by a Jew!) it
     is made clear that his career, quite apart from this Ritual Murder
      case, is that of a man of great strength of character and moral
                                  courage.

    1160- Gloucester. The body of a child named Harold was found in the
    river with the usual wounds of crucifixion. Sometimes wrongly dated
      1168. Recorded in Monumenta Germania Historica, Vol. VI (Erfurt
     Annals); Polychronicon, R. Higdon; Chronicles, R. Grafton, p. 46.

      1181- Bury St. Edmunds. A child called Robert was sacrificed at
    Passover. The child was buried in the church and its presence there
     was supposed to cause 'miracles.' Authority: Rohrbacher, from the
                    Chronicle of Gervase of Canterbury.

   1192- Winchester. A boy crucified. Mentioned in Jewish Encyclopedia as
                   being a false charge. Details lacking.

       1232- Winchester. Boy crucified. Details lacking. Mentioned in
        Hyamson's History of the Jews in England; also in Annals of
   Winchester; and conclusively in the Close Roll 16, Henry III, membrane
                               8, 26.6. 1232.

   1235- Norwich. In this case, the Jews stole a child and hid him with a
   view to crucifying him. Haydn's Dictionary of Dates of date 1847, says
     of this case, "They (the Jews) circumcise and attempt to crucify a
     child at Norwich; the offenders are condemned in a fine of 20,000
   marks." Further authority Huillard Breolles Grande Chronique, III, 86.
                    Also Close Roll, 19 Henry III, m 23.

     1244- London. A child's body found unburied in the cemetery of St.
     Benedict, with ritual cuts. Buried with great pomp in St. Paul's.
     Authority: Social England, Vol. I, p. 407, edited by H. D. Traill.

       1255- Lincoln. A boy called Hugh was kidnapped by the Jews and
     crucified and tortured in hatred of Jesus Christ. The boy's mother
     found the body in a well on the premises of a Jew called Joppin or
   Copinus. This Jew, promised by the judge his life if he confessed, did
      so, and 91 Jews were arrested; eventually 18 were hanged for the
       crime. King Henry III himself personally ordered the juridical
   investigation of the case five weeks after the discovery of the body,
     and refused to allow mercy to be shown to the Jew Copinus, who was
                                 executed.

   Hugh was locally beatified, and his tomb may still be seen in Lincoln
   Cathedral, but the Jewish Money Power has evidently been at work, for
   between 1910 and 1930, a notice was fixed above the shrine as follows:

     "The body of Hugh was given burial in the Cathedral and treated as
     that of a martyr. When the Minster was repaved, the skeleton of a
    small child was found beneath the present tombstone. There are many
     incidents in the story which tend to throw doubt upon it, and the
   existence of similar stories in England and elsewhere points to their
   origin in the fanatical hatred of the Jews of the Middle Ages and the
   common superstition, now wholly discredited, that ritual murder was a
     factor of Jewish Paschal Rites. Attempts were made as early as the
    13th century by the Church to protect the Jews against the hatred of
           the populace and against this particular accusation."

     At a recent visit to Lincoln of the Jewish Historical Society, in
    1934, the Mayor, Mr. G. Deer, said to them: "That he (St. Hugh) was
   done to death by Jews for ritual purposes cannot be other than a libel
   based upon the prejudices and ignorance of an unenlightened age." The
    Chancellor on the same occasion said: "It was quite obviously one of
     the very many cases of slander spread about the Jews from time to
           time. No doubt, the child died or fell down the well."

   These people, Jews and Gentiles, bring no evidence whatever for their
         statements; it couldn't have happened, they say. Why not?

     Was Henry III, weak in character as we know him to have been, ever
     charged with being an immoral man? Did the judges not examine the
    body, which was only four weeks dead? Is Haydn's Dictionary of Dates
    (1847 edition) medieval and superstitious when it said of this case
   "They (the Jews) crucify a child at Lincoln, for which 18 are hanged"?
    There are no 'ifs' and 'buts' here! Or does Copinus's confession not
    tally with that of Theobald, quoted above in the first Norwich case?
     Copinus said, "For the death of this child, nearly all the Jews in
    England had come together and every town had sent deputies to assist
                             in the sacrifice."

      No one questions the historical facts in this case; but Jews and
       Judaised Gentiles unite in denying the fact of Ritual Murder.

   Strack, in his The Jew and Human Sacrifice, written in defence of the
    Jews against the Blood Accusation, omits all mention of this famous
    case, which is the subject of the Prioress's Tale (Canterbury Tales)
     of Chaucer and is referred to in Marlowe's Jew of Malta. Hyamson's
     History of the Jews in England devotes the whole of Chapter IX to
     "Little St. Hugh of Lincoln," showing the importance of the Ritual
                   Murder issue in the Jewish mind today.

   The following Close Rolls of the Realm refer to the case of St. Hugh:
   Henry III, 39, m. 2,7.10 1255; 39, m. 2,14.10.1255; 40, m. 20, 24.ii..
    1255; 40,m.13,13.3.1256; 42, m. 6; 19.6.1258. And the Patent Rolls,
    Henry III, 40,m.20,26.11.1255; 40,m.19,9.12.1255; 40,27.3.1256; and
                             40,m.5, 20.8.1256.

      1257. London. A child sacrificed. Authority: Cluverius. Epitome
                     Historia, p. 541. Details lacking.

    1276. London. Boy crucified. Authority: The Close Roll of the Realm,
                    4, Edward I, membrane 14, 3.3.1276.

     1279. Northampton. A child crucified. Haydn's Dictionary of Dates,
        1847, says of this case: "They (the Jews) crucify a child at
      Northampton for which 50 are drawn at horses' tails and hanged."
   Further authorities: Reiley, Memorials of London, p. I5; H. Desportes,
                            Le Mystere du Sang.

    1290. Oxford. The Patent Roll 18 Edward I, mem. 21, 21st June, 1290,
     contains an order for the gaol delivery of a Jew, Isaac de Pulet,
           detained for the murder of a Christian boy at Oxford.

   Only one month after this, King Edward issued his decree expelling the
   Jews from the Kingdom. There is, then, every reason to believe that it
      was the Oxford murder which proved the last straw in toleration.

    The reader will see (p. 20) that it was a similar ritual case which
   was one of the main stimulants to the King and Queen of Spain to expel
                 professing Jews from that country in 1492.

    The Jews, in attempting to escape responsibility for these deaths by
     Ritual Murder, do not hesitate to impugn the probity of two of the
   Kings of England, against whose moral character no one else has dared
     to cast a slur. Here are some examples. From the Jewish Chronicle
     Supplement, April, 1936, p. 8 (speaking of the Lincoln case in the
                            reign of Henry III):

   "Henceforth and especially under the zealously Christian Edward I, the
    Crown and its officers became almost a worse peril to the Jews than
       mobs intent on loot and led on by fanatic priests and knightly
   spendthrifts who had borrowed Jewish money. When 18th century writers
   of history began to examine the old records in a new sceptical temper,
      some may be found venturing on such unkind surmises as that the
   alleged crucifictions of Christian children only seemed to happen when
   kings were short of money." The foul accusation against men of upright
      character is repeated by the Jew Hyamson (History of the Jews in
    England, 1928 edition, p. 21), writes: "it has also been pointed out
    that the Blood Accusation was as a rule made at a time at which the
                    Royal Treasury needed replenishing."

      To deny that the cases of St. William of Norwich and St. Hugh of
   Lincoln were Jewish Ritual Murders is to accuse certain English Kings,
    certain English Clergy, and certain English administrators, known to
    be men of good morals, of murdering and torturing Jews to get their
     money, after accusing them of horrible crimes. In the case of St.
   Hugh, the sentence was juridical; in the case of St. William, the mob
   took the matter into their own hands because the Sheriff would take no
                              action himself.

                Whom do you believe the Jews or the English?

   "It is difficult to refuse all credit to stories so circumstantial and
     so frequent." So says Social England concerning Ritual Murders in
           England Vol. I, p. 407, I893, edited by H. D. Traill.

   A significant fact is that Haydn's Dictionary of Dates, at least up to
    1847, quoted the Ritual Murders in Norman and Plantagenet England as
     undisputed facts. In later editions in the sixties, all mention of
    them is extirpated! We may take it that the Jewish Money Power began
     to dictate to the Press in England somewhere in the fifties of the
                               last century.

                 __________________________________________


                                CHAPTER VIII

            WELL AUTHENTICATED CASES IN EARLY AND MEDIEVAL TIMES
                                1171 TO 1510
     IN this, and subsequent chapters, I place descriptions of cases in
      chronological order, in which there seems to me to be no reason
      whatever to dispute the historical accuracy of the facts given.

   In this Chapter, I record such cases between 1171 and 1510 inclusive;
   and I would point out to the reader the great importance of the murder
   of St. Simon of Trent in 1475 and of the Toledo case in 1490; in fact,
       should the reader be one of those who approach the subject as
     unbelievers, I recommend that he should read about these two cases
                        first, and the others after.

       The following abbreviations are used in this Chapter among the
                         references to authorities:

      Magd. Cent. for Magdeburg Centuries, a Protestant History of the
         Christian Church compiled at Magdeburg, sixteenth century.

     Chron. Hirsaug. for Chronicon Hirsaugiense, a history produced by
                         Abbot J. Trithemius, 1514.

    Cosm. Munst. for Sebastian Munster's Cosmographia Universalis, 1544.

     Spec. Viva. for Vincent of Beauvais's Speculum Historiale, of 13th
                                  century.

   1171 Blois, France. At Passover, a Christian child was crucified, his
   body drained of blood and thrown into the river. A number of Jews were
      executed. Authority: Monumenta Germania Historica, VI, 520; Magd
                      Cent., 12, C. 14 and 13, C. 14.

     1179. Pontoise. The authorities for this case are the Bollandists
   (Acta, Vol. III, March, 591); Madg. Cent., 23, c. 14; Spec. Vinc, 129,
   C. 25; and Cosm. Munst., 23, C. 14. A boy named Richard was tortured,
   crucified and bled white. Philip Augustus's chaplains and historians,
   Rigord and Guillaume l'Armoricain, attested this case. The body of the
   boy was taken to the Church of the Holy Innocents in Paris and he was
                         canonised as St. Richard.

     Under date 1080, Haydn's Dictionary of Dates, 1847, p. 282, says:
      "Thinking to invoke the divine mercy, at a solemnisation of the
       Passover, they (the Jews) sacrifice a youth, the son of a rich
    tradesman at Paris, for which all the criminals are executed and all
                           Jews banished France."

    1192. Braisne. Philip Augustus attended to this case personally, and
       had the criminals burnt. It was a case of the crucifixion of a
   Christian sold to the Jews by Agnes, Countess of Dreux, who considered
     him guilty of homicide and theft. Authority: Histoire des Ducs et
      Comtes de Champagne, IV, 1st part, p. 72, Paris, 1865) by A. de
   Jubainville; Sped. Vinc., 129, c. 25; Gaguin. L. 6, De Francis; Magd.
                        Cenf., 12, C. 14, col. 1670.

     1235. Fulda, Hesse-Nassau. Five children murdered; Jews confessed
     under torture, but said the blood was wanted for healing purposes.
   Frederick II exonerated the Jews from suspicion, but the Crusaders had
     already dealt with a number by putting them to death. Frederick II
    called together a number of converted Jews, who denied the existence
    of Jewish ritual murder. But Frederick's bias is evident in his own
      words when, in publishing his decision, he gives his objects in
    calling these people together, "although our conscience regarded the
     innocence of the aforesaid Jews adequately proved on the ground of
   several writings." Had Frederick II lived today, he would have relied
     little upon religious literature in deciding whether Jewish Ritual
   Murder exists or not. Authority: Chron. Hirsaug., and Magd. Cent., 13,
                                   C. 24.

   1247. Valreas, France. Just before Easter, a two-year-old girl's body
    was found in the town moat with wounds on forehead, hands and feet.
   Jews confessed under torture that they wanted the blood of the child,
   but did not say that it was for ceremonial purposes. Pope Innocent IV
   said that three of the Jews were executed without confessing, but the
     Jewish Encyclopedia, 1903, Vol. III, p. 261, says they confessed.

       1250. Saragossa. A boy crucified, afterwards canonised as St.
     Dominiculus. Pius VII, 24th Nov., 1805, confirmed a decree of the
     Congregation of Rites of 31st August, according this canonisation.

   1261. Pforzheim, Baden. An old woman sold a seven-year-old girl to the
    Jews, who bled her, strangled her and threw the body into the river.
     The old woman was convicted on the evidence of her own daughter. A
      number of Jews were condemned to death, two committing suicide.
      Authorities: Bollandists, Acta, Vol. II, p. 838; Rohrbacher, L'
   Histoire Universelle de l'Eglise Catholique, Vol. XVIII, pp. 697-700;
      Thos. Cantipranus, De ratione vitae Vol. II, xxix. The child was
                           canonised as a saint.

   1287. Berne. Rudolf, a boy, was murdered at Passover in the house of a
     rich Jew called Matler. Jews confessed that he had been crucified;
     many were put to death. The boy was canonised as a martyr, and his
    name can be found in several martyrologies. Documental authorities:
    Bollandists, Acta, Vol. II, April; Helvetia sancta (H. Murer); Karl
    Howald, Die Brunnen zu Bern, 1848, p. 250; Cosm. Aims., 13, p. 482.
   But a stone monument still exists in Berne commemorating the crime. It
      is called The Fountain of the Child-Devourer, and is now on the
     Kornhausplatz. It represents a monster, with a Jewish countenance,
   eating a child. The figure wears the Judenbut, the hat prescribed for
   the Jews to wear by decree of the Fourth Lateran Council in 1215. This
      monument was first placed in a street of the Jews' quarter as a
    reminder of the monstrous crime and as a punishment for the whole of
        Berne Jewry. Later, it was removed to its present situation.

   1288. Troyes, France. Some Jews were tried for a ritual murder and 13
    were executed by burning. Authority: Jewish Encyclopedia, 1906, Vol.
                                XII, p. 267.

     1286. Oberwesel, on the Rhine. A boy named Werner was tortured for
    three days at Passover, hanged by the legs and bled white. The body
      was found in the river. This boy was beatified in the diocese of
         Treves, and his anniversary is on 19th April. A sculptured
      representation of this ritual murder is still to be seen in the
   Oberwesel Church. Authorities: Aventinus, Annals of Bavaria, 1591, 17,
              p. 576; Chron. Hirsaug., Magd. Cent., 13, c. 14.

    1462. Rinn, Innsbruck. A boy called Andreas Oxner was bought by the
    Jews and sacrificed for his blood on a stone in the forest. The body
      was found by his mother in a birch-tree. No Jew was apprehended
   because, the border being near, they had fled when the crime was made
     known. The Abbe Vacandard, defender of the Jews, says there was no
    trial. Well, of course there wasn't. Even in 1937 there is no trial
       for a crime where the criminals have escaped! The boy has been
    sanctified by Pope Benedict XIV in his Bull Beatus Andreas, Venice,
    1778, which says he was " cruelly assassinated by the Jews in hatred
    of the faith of Jesus Christ." This last is admitted by Pope Clement
   XIV, who wrote his report on the investigation he made into the matter
     of Jewish Ritual Murder when, as Cardinal Ganganelli, he had been
    commissioned by Pope Benedict XIV to go into the matter; and in this
   report, he says "I admit the truth of another fact, which happened in
   the year 1462 in the village of Rinn, in the Diocese of Brixen, in the
   person of the Blessed Andreas, a boy barbarously murdered by the Jews
       in hatred of the faith of Jesus Christ." No one questions the
   historical occurrence or this case. An engraving on wood representing
               the Ritual Murder still exists in the church.

   1468. Sepulveda, Segovia, Spain. The Jews sacrificed a Christian child
   on a cross. The Bishop of Segovia investigated the crime, and ordered
   the culprits to Segovia, where they were executed. It is important to
   know that this Bishop was himself son of a converted Jew; Jean d'Avila
   was his name. Colmenares's History of Segovia records the facts of the
   case, which was juridically decided by a man of Jewish blood. That may
     be the reason that one finds no mention of it in Strack's book in
             defence of the Jews, The Jew and Human Sacrifice.

    1475. The Case of St. Simon of Trent. In 1475, a three-year-old boy
         named Simon disappeared in the Italian town of Trent; the
    circumstances were such that suspicion fell upon the Jews. Hoping to
    averr this suspicion, they themselves "found" the child's body in a
        conduit where they afterwards confessed to having thrown it.
    Examination of the body, however, revealed that the boy had not been
    drowned; there were strange wounds on the body, of circumcision and
    crucifixion. About seven Jews were arrested; they were tortured and
    confessed that the boy had been ritually murdered for the purpose of
   obtaining Christian blood to mix with the ceremonial unleavened bread;
     these confessions were made separately and agreed in all essential
   details. The Jews were tried and were ultimately executed. The officer
   in charge of the investigation of the crime, Jean de Salis de Brescia,
   had before him a converted Jew, Jean de Feltro, who described how his
   father told him that Jews of his town, Lanzhat, had killed a child at
     Passover to get the blood of which they partook in wine and cakes.

    No one has ever dared to try and deny the historical events of this
   case; only the Jews invent "reasons" why it was not Ritual Murder! But
   there is no escape from the opposite conclusion. In 1759 in answer to
   a Jewish appeal from Poland, the Inquisition sent Cardinal Ganganelli
    (later he became Pope Clement XIV) to investigate and report on the
   whole subject, with particular reference to the many cases then being
    reported in Poland; although this man went out with a biased mind in
   favour of the Jews (in his report, he says: "With my weak faculties I
     endevoured to demonstrate the non-existence of the crime which was
   imputed to the Jewish nation in Poland," hardly the spirit in which to
   enter upon such an investigation, he actually says of this Trent case
     (see Report of Cardinal Ganganelli, in C. Roth's The Ritual Murder
   Libel and the Jew, 1935, p. 83): "I admit then as true the fact of the
    Blessed Simon, a boy three years old, killed by the Jews in Trent in
    the year 1475 in hatred of the faith of Jesus Christ (although it is
      disputed by Basnage and Wagenseil); for the celebrated Flaminio
   Cornaro, a Venetian Senator, in his work On the Cult of the Child St.
   Simon of Trent (Venice, 1753) disposes of all the doubts raised by the
                         above-mentioned critics."

   The Jews try to throw discredit on the judges who condemned the Jewish
    murderers by quoting Pope Sixtus IV who refused to sanction the cult
    of St. Simon; but the reason for this was that the cult was not then
    authorised by Rome, but was a popular movement without authority and
     contrary to Church discipline; this same Pope later expressed his
    approval of the verdict on the Jews in the Papal Bull XII Kal. July,
                                   1478.

        We have not only the testimony as to the correctitude of the
   proceedings from Sixtus IV; but also that of several other Popes; such
       as Sixtus V, who regularised the popular cult of St. Simon by
   ratifying it in 1588, as cited by Benedict XIV in Book I, Ch. xiv, No.
     4 of his On the Cononisation of the Saints; also by this same Pope
     Benedict XIV in his Ball Beatus Andreas of 22nd February, I755, in
   which he confirms Simon as a saint, a fact omitted from the arguments
    of that advocate for the Jews, Strack (The Jew and Human Sacrifice);
      Gregory XIII recognised Simon as a martyr, and even visited the
    shrine; and, as already stated, Clement XIV was obliged to recognise
       that it was a case of Jewish murder in hatred of Christianity.

   St. Simon's shrine is in the Church of St. Peter, Trent; relics of him
             are still shown, among them the sacrificial knife.

   In short, the Ritual Murder of St. Simon at Trent is supported by such
   evidence that those who doubt it are thereby condemning without reason
      high juridical and ecclesiastical authorities whose probity and
          intelligence there is not the slightest excuse to deny.

   1480. Venice. This case, as admitted in the Jewish Encyclopedia, I906,
     Vol. XII, p. 410, was settled by trial. Three Jews were executed.

      1485. Padua, Italy. The victim in this case was canonised as St.
    Lorenzino, Pope Benedict XIV mentioning him as a martyr in his Bull
   Beatus Andreas. This case was attested by the Episcopal Court of Padua

     1490. Toledo. This is a most important case, the circumstances of
     which have been clarified for us by W. T. Walsh in his interesting
    book on Isabella of Spain, 1931 (Sheed & Ward), in which he devotes
   pp. 441 to 468 to his researches on this Ritual Murder charge. Had it
     not been for Mr. Walsh, I might have been influenced by the Jewish
       Encyclopedia's statement (1903, Vol. II1, p. 262) that "Modern
     historians even deny that a child had disappeared at all" in this
    case! Strenuous efforts were made by Loeb and H. C. Lea to clear the
   Jews from guilt of this murder; as also by Abbe Vacandard. Walsh shows
   that on 17th October, 1490, a Jew named Yuce confessed to having been
   present at the crucifixion of a boy called Christopher at La Guardian
   near Toledo. He made this confession without the "aid" of any torture;
        he was not even threatened with that for one year after his
      confession. On 19th July, 1491, Yuce was promised immunity from
    punishment for himself and described the whole crucifixion and gave
    the names of his accomplices. On 25th October, 1491, a jury of seven
      noted Renaissance scholars who occupied the Chairs at Salamanca
      University examined the case and were unanimous in finding Yuce
    guilty. Not until after this did Yuce undergo torture. This torture
    was applied to make him say for what reason the boy Christopher had
      been crucified instead of being killed in any other way; but no
   "leading" questions were employed in the examination. After this, the
      case went before a second jury of five learned men of Avila, who
    considered the evidence concerning Yuce's accomplices, who had been
   arrested and under examination; they unanimously declared them guilty.
        Eight Jews (some of them Marranos. or pretended converts to
                        Christianity) were executed.

     Writing of the efforts made to discredit the trials in this case,
      Walsh says (p. 464): "Must we assume that they (the two learned
     juries) were all murderous fanatics, willing to sacrifice innocent
   men, and that Dr. Leob, Dr. Lea, and on the Catholic side the somewhat
      too credulous Abbe Vacandard were better qualified to weigh the
                evidence after the lapse of four centuries?"

       Walsh is not an "anti-semite." He is a historian, and has not
   suggested that ritual murder is part or any official Jewish ceremony.
   But he says: "The historian, far from being obliged to make wholesale
   vindication of all Jews accused of murder, is free, in fact, bound to
              consider each individual case upon its merits."

   Walsh states (p. 441) that this case of Ritual Murder was "one of the
    chief factors, if not the decisive one, in the decision of Fernando
   and Isabel" (for the expulsion of the Jews from Spain). He shows that
    the complete record of testimony in the trial of one of the accused
    has been available since it was published in 1887 in the Bulletin of
    the Royal Academy at Madrid (Vol. XI, pp. 7-160), from the original
       manuscript. (This was, of course, before the Red revolution!)

    Walsh charges Lea, the pro-Jewish author, of intellectual dishonesty
        (p. 628) in writing in his Inquisition in Spain decrying the
               influential men who were jurors in this case.

    "If the Inquisitors sent eight men to a shameful death without being
   convinced beyond a reasonable doubt of their guilt, the honest verdict
     of history cannot shrink from finding not only Torquemada and his
      judges, but King Fernando and Queen Isabel, Cardinal Mendoza and
     several of the most illustrious professors of Salamanca University
     guilty of complicity in one of the most brutal judicial murders on
                         record?" (Walsh, p. 442.)

    Those who shrink from charging the Jews with the practice of Ritual
    Murder thereby condemn some of the finest characters on the stage of
                             European history.

     Finally, we must record that the murdered boy was canonised as St.
               Christopher on the authority of Pope Pius VII.

      1494. Tyrnau, Hungary. A boy was bled white and killed. The Jew
   culprits were betrayed by the confession of women, who were persuaded
    to do so by the sight of some instruments of torture, which however
    were not applied to them. The Jews, arrested after this confession,
    themselves confessed that this was the fourth child they had killed
    for the blood, but they said they wanted this for medical purposes.
            Authority: Bollandists, Acta, April, Veil. II, 838.

     1510. Brandenberg. Several Jews were accused in Berlin of buying a
   small Christian boy, bleeding him and killing him. They confessed, and
    41 were executed Authorities: Richard Mun, Die Juden in Berlin; Sir
       Richard Burton, The Jew, the Gypsy and El Islam, 1898, p. I26.

                 __________________________________________

4
MY IRRELEVANT DEFENCE:
                            JEWISH RITUAL MURDER
                 __________________________________________

                                 CHAPTER IX

     WELL AUTHENTICATED CASES IN SEVENTEENTH AND EIGHTEENTH CENTURIES.
   NATURALLY, here we get a number of juridically decided cases, as might
                                be expected.

    1603. Verona. A Jew was tried on a charge of killing a child to get
    its blood for an infamous purpose. He was acquitted. The sentence of
   acquittal, dated 28th February, 1603, given in full in the Jew Roth's
     The Ritual Murder Libel and the Jew (p. 78), released the accused
   "because the Hebraic witch abhors the shedding of blood" and "various
   Princes held this rumour of the use of blood to be vain and false?" We
    hold that such absurd reasoning as all excuse for acquittal is clear
                      proof that the Court was bought.

   1670. Met. As this was a very strongly established case, one does not
     find any mention of it in Strack's book in defence of the Jews! A
    three-year-old boy was lost by his mother on the way to a well. The
   boy was wearing a red cap, and witnesses had seen him carried away by
     a Jew mounted on a horse. This Jew was Raphael Levi. At first, the
   boy's body could not be traced. The Jews, becoming frightened, spread
   the report that wolves must have killed him in the forest. The forest
     was searched and eventually the head, neck and ribs of a boy were
     found, together with clothes which were identified as the missing
   boy's, red cap and all, by the boy's father. But as these clothes were
    neither torn nor bloody, it was concluded that the wolf story was a
     "blind," and then witnesses came forward who had seen Raphael Levi
    with the boy in such places and at such times as to remove all doubt
       of his guilt. Levi was sentenced to death by the order of the
   Parliament of Metz, and was burned alive. Authority: La France Juive,
                                by Drumont.

      1698. Sandomir, Poland. Authority: The Jew Cecil Roth, in Ritual
     Murder Libel and the Jew, p. 24. The highest tribunal in the land,
     that of Lublin, condemned a Jew for Ritual Murder. the local court
                           having exculpated him.

   1748. Duniagrod, Poland. Jews condemned for Ritual Murder by Episcopal
                         Court. Mentioned by Roth.

   1753. Pavalochi, Poland. Jews condemned for Ritual Murder by Episcopal
                         Court. Mentioned by Roth.

       1753. Zhytomir, Poland. In this case, a three-year-old boy was
   murdered; Jews were tried by the Episcopal Court of Kiev and condemned
    to death. A painting supposed to commemorate this murder is even now
      visited by pilgrims to the Carthusian Monastery at Kalwarya near
   Cracow. Authority: The Jew Cecil Roth, in Ritual Murder Libel and the
                                Jew, p. 25.

      Of course, the Jew Roth denies that the cases quoted were Ritual
                                  Murders.

                 __________________________________________

                                 CHAPTER X

               WELL AUTHENTICATED CASES IN NINETEENTH CENTURY
     AMONG these are the famous cases at Damascus, 1840; Tisza Eszlar,
     1882; and Polna, 1899. In this century, the Jewish Money Power had
   obtained control over the finances of many European countries, and the
   reader will see for himself how it was exerted on Rulers, Governments,
   Courts and "public opinion" whenever the Blood Accusation was brought
                             against the Jews.

         1823. Velisch, Russia. On Easter Sunday, a 21 year old boy
   disappeared. His body was found in a marsh one week later; there were
    punctured wounds all over the body and the skin was scarified. There
    were wounds of circumcision; the feet were bloody and a bandage had
    been tied around the legs. The body had been undressed, washed, and
   again dressed. No blood was found near the body, which was drained of
   blood. Doctors gave evidence on oath that the child had been tortured
     to death. Some years later, five Jews were arrested together with
       three Russian women who had become Jewesses; these three women
    confessed that they had, one week before Passover in 1823, been made
    drunk by a Jewess who kept an inn and that the latter had bribed one
    of them to procure a boy. One of these converted Jewesses described
   how the boy had been forcibly circumcised by the Jews and rolled about
     in a barrel until his skin was scraped all over. The boy had been
    taken to the school where a number of Jews were assembled, laid in a
     trough, and all present had made stabs with a nail in his side and
   temples. When the boy died under this torture, his body was taken to a
     wood by two of the converted Jewesses; and the third woman took a
   bottle of the blood of the boy to the Jewess innkeeper aforesaid. Next
    day, the Rabbi's wife took the three women again to the school where
    the Jews were gathered; bottles were filled from the trough by means
   of a funnel, and the Rabbi dipped a nail into the blood and dropped a
   little onto a number of pieces of cloth, one piece of which was given
     to everyone present. The case went to the Imperial Council at St.
     Petersburg, all the lower courts which dealt with the case having
   found the Jews guilty. The Imperial Council reversed the verdict and,
     on 18th January, 1835, the three Russian Jewish convert women were
      sent to Siberia whilst all the Jews were acquitted of the crime!
    Authorities: Recorded in the Jewish Encyclopedia, 1903, Vol. III, p.
                 267; described in Der Sturmer, May, 1934.

    1831. St. Petersburg. The daughter of a non-commissioned officer was
       the victim in this case. There were five judges, of whom four
    recognised the ritual character of the murder. The Jewish murderers
    were transported to Siberia. Monniot says the facts of this case are
                               not contested.

   1840. Rhodes. On the eve of Purim a small Greek boy was missed; he had
    been seen entering a house in the Jewish quarter; after that he was
     never seen again. It is interesting to note that the time of this
    event was the same as in the famous Damascus case, which see. Yusuf
   Pasha, Governor of the island, took depositions of witnesses and sent
    to Constantinople for instructions as to what to do next. Meanwhile,
     "at the instigation of the Greek clergy and the European consuls"
     (admits the Jewish Encyclopedia, 1905, Vol. X, p. 401) the Jewish
     quarter was blockaded and the leading Jews arrested. The Austrian
    Consul, however, supported the Jews, Austria being in need of loans
     from the Rothschilds. But "owing to the efforts of Count Camondo,
   Cremieux and Montefiore" (to quote again from the Jewish Encyclopedia)
   "a firman was obtained from the Sultan which declared all accusations
   of ritual murder null and void." The Jews were released! Now Camondo,
    Cremieux and Montefiore were all rich Jews. Cremieux and Montefiore
    figure in the Damascus case, which see. Count Camondo "exercised so
   great an influence over the sultans Abdal-alMajid and Abd-al-Aziz and
     over the Ottoman Grand Viziers and ministers that his name became
   proverbial. He was banker to the Ottoman Government...." (All this is
   from the Jewish Encyclopedia, 1903, Vol. III, p. 521) There cannot be
    a shadow of doubt that the proceedings in this case were stopped by
    the force of the Jewish Money Power, in spite of all the efforts of
    "the Greek clergy and the European consuls." Authorities: M. P. -N.
     Hamont in Egypt under Mehemet Ali, and the Jewish Encyclopedia as
                                   cited.

                          1840. The Damascus Case.
     This case, now almost completely forgotten by Democracy, convulsed
    Europe for a considerable time owing to the agitation induced by the
    Jewish Money Power which left no stone unturned to misrepresent and
    vilify the individuals responsible for bringing the Jews to justice.

    Achille Laurent, a Member of the Societe Orientale, brought together
     the full details of the trial of the culprits as reported in Arab
    newspapers at the time, and he published the whole facts of the case
     in Relation historique des Affaires de Syrie, 1840-1842 (Historic
   Account of Syrian Affairs, 1840-1842), which was produced in France as
                   a Yellow Book in two volumes, in 1846.

      The Jewish Festival of Purim fell on 15th February, 1840. Father
    Thomas, a Catholic monk disappeared in Damascus on 5th February. His
             servant went to look for him and disappeared also.

    The French Consul, Comte Ratti-Menton, began to make enquiries, and
     got the Sherif Pasha to investigate. After a while seven Jews were
    arrested. They confessed, some after receiving chastisement with the
   bastinado, to having murdered Father Thomas for the sake of his blood.
   Four of them were promised pardon if they would speak the truth; these
   were Mousa Abou-el-Afieh, who became a Mahomedan, explaining that that
   was necessary before he could confess about the crimes of other Jews;
   Aslan Farkhi; Suliman, a barber; and Mourad el Fathal. They confessed
     very fully. Sixteen Jews were found to have been involved, and all
                               were arrested.

   Several of the Jews, including Mourad el Fathal, Mousa Abou-el-Afieh,
   Isaac Arari and Aaron Arari, described how the blood was required and
   collected from the cut throat of the victim to send to a Rabbi for use
               in preparing ceremonial bread (pains azymes).

     The Grand Rabbi was brought before the Court of Investigation; his
    name was Yakub el Entabi. He was required to listen carefully to the
    examination of Mousa Abou-el-Afieh, and to the answers of that Jew,
   and to confirm or deny each statement made by Mousa. In this way, the
    Rabbi admitted that blood was required for the ceremonial bread. He
          also confessed to having received Father Thomas's blood.

    According to the Turkish custom, the bastinado was freely applied to
    make the Jews speak. The Jewish Money Power has endeavoured to make
       the world believe that it was only the torture which enforced
                       confession from innocent men.

    Unfortunately for the Jewish Money Power, one of the questions asked
      was about the place where the remains of Father Thomas had been
   disposed of; and the remains were found where the prisoners said they
    were -- that is, in a covered conduit. These remains were identified
            by European doctors as being those of Father Thomas.

   Further, the wretches confessed to serving Father Thomas's servant in
     the same way, i.e., cutting his throat, collecting his blood, and
             disposing of the remains, this time in a latrine.

     No amount of bastinado or torture could wring from an innocent man
    information as to the whereabouts of the remains of the victim of a
                                  murder.

    We spare the reader the sickening details of the crime according to
   the confessions and admissions of the depraved Jewish murderers; long
   extracts from the trial's proceedings can be obtained in the following
    French book: Le Crime Ritual chez les Juifs, by A. Monniot, prefaced
       by the celebrated Edouard Drumont, 1914, from P. Tequi, 82 Rue
        Bonaparte, Paris, price 10 francs. This book shows that the
   confessions made by the culprits agreed in every detail, and that the
         questions they had to answer were not "leading questions".

   Fourteen Jews were found guilty, and ten were condemned to death, two
                                having died.

   Our business is not to horrify; it is to expose the methods of Jewish
    intrigue and corruption which were used to conceal the guilt of the
    culprits in fear of the natural reaction of the Gentile to the facts
                      if they became generally known.

    As soon as the first reports of the case reached the West of Europe
   the Jewish Money Power rose like one man to try and cover the obvious
    tracks made by the obvious criminals. Money can, as we know only too
     well, accomplish wonders on a democracy as also on the Endings and
        policy of Eastern (and alas! often also Western) potentates.

   It will perhaps be best to deal with each of these matters separately:

                           1. The Press Agitation
      This was on the usual Jewish lines Ritual Murder was "a Gentile
   invention"; Comte Ratti-Menton, the French Consul, who had insisted on
   the investigation, was attacked from every angle; the Jews were being
                    persecuted, and so on and so forth.

                      2. Agitation by Public Meetings.
   For example, in London, the gullible democracy was induced to flock to
    a big meeting at the Mansion House in London, there to denounce the
    Blood Accusation of which they knew nothing at all, and to offer the
   Jews the sympathy of the British Nation! Paris, New York, Philadelphia
                       and other towns followed suit!

                3. Bribery of the Khedive of Egypt by Money.
     The rich Jews, Moses Montefiore in England, Cremieux and Munck in
    France, went off hotfoot to the East. They applied to the Khedive of
   Egypt, whose regime included Damascus, for a revision of the sentence.
      He was offered and accepted a huge sum of money and released the
                              condemned Jews.

    Note the result. The Jews proclaimed everywhere that the Khedive had
    reversed the verdict! He had done nothing of the kind. There was no
    reversal and no re-trial. The words of the Khedive's firman which he
     issued to release the Jewish murderers give the whole thing away:

   "From the account and demand of Messrs. Moses Montefiore and Cremieux,
    who came to us as delegates of all Europeans professing the religion
      of Moses, we have recognised that they desire the liberation and
   safety for the Jews who have been detained or who have taken flight in
     the case of the examination of the affair of Father Thomas, monk,
             missing in Damascus; he and his servant, Ibrahim.

       "And as, because of their numerous population, it would not be
    convenient (convenable) to refuse their demand and request, we order
     that the Jew prisoners shall be released and that the fugitives be
   given safety for their return. And you will take all possible measures
       that none are badly treated and that they are left undisturbed
                everywhere. Such is our will. Mehemet Ali."

    He released the Jews therefore because of the numbers of Jews in the
     population . . . and undoubtedly for cash received. He knew their
    guilt, and never denied it. Yet the Jewish Encyclopaedia (1903, Vol.
      IV, p. 420) actually ventures to assert that the three rich Jews
     secured from the 'Khedive a "recognition of the innocence" of the
     condemned men. The Khedive's price for releasing them is stated to
   have been half a million piastres. A converted Rabbi, Chevalier P. L.
       B. Drach, wrote in his The Harmony between the Church and the
     Synagogue (1844, Paris, p. 79): "Money played a great role in this
                                 business."

                         4. Bribery of the Sultan.
    Having won the first round with the Khedive, the Jew Montefiore went
   on to see the Sultan of Turkey, and secured from him a decree that the
   Blood Accusation was baseless and that the Jews henceforth were to be
    on the same footing in the Sultan's dominions as other non-Muslims.
      The price of this was a huge bribe from the House of Rothschild.

   The Sultan Abd-ul-Mejid's firman said "that a thorough examination of
      the religious books of the Hebrews has demonstrated the absolute
   prohibition of the use of either human or animal blood in any of their
   religious rites. It follows from this defence that the charges against
   them and their religion are calumnies." This, as shown in Chapter III,
       is mere sophistry, but even in 1936 a Miss C. WI. Finn had the
    effrontery to bring forward the firman as "evidence" that the Blood
   Accusation is false; this was in a letter to the Jewish Chronicle, 2nd
                               October, 1936.

   The wording of the firman is quoted in the Jewish Encyclopaedia, Vol.
                              I, p. 47 (1906).

    On his way home, Montefiore tried to get an audience with the Pope,
                 Gregory XVI, but Bras refused an audience.

                 5. Attempted Bribery of the French Consul.
   Comte Ratti-Menton, the French Consul who had shown such determination
   in having the ritual murderers dealt with, and who was a most upright
   man, wrote to the Sherif Pasha on 22nd April to say that the Jews had,
   through the Austrian Consulate, offered him half a million piastres to
    have the evidence suppressed. Needless to say, when this honourable
     man was found incorruptible, the advocates of the Jews got busy as
    stated above to besmirch his reputation. Thiers, the French Foreign
      Secretary, replying to Jew-inspired attacks on the French Consul
   Ratti-Menton, stated in the Chamber of Deputies, 3rd June, 1840, "Let
        it be known to you, gentlemen, I repeat it, that in all the
   Chancellories the Israelites are in insistence for that affair and our
   Consul can lean only on the Minister of Foreign Affairs for France. A
   French agent who is in his right will always be protected against all
      influences, whatever they may be." M. Thiers also said that the
   Comte's superior officer, WI. Cochelet, Consul for Egypt, approved of
    his subordinate's action and that the English Consul was of the same
                                   mind.

                     6. Bribery of Austrian Diplomats.
     Throughout the proceedings, the Austrian Consul supported the Jews
    against the charge of ritual murder. Here, from a Jewish source, is
   the reason, duly confessed: From The History of the Jews in Vienna, by
           the Jew, Max Grunwald, 1936 (Philadelphia), pp. 228-9:

   "Following the policy of the House [of Rothschild] in other countries,
     where it obtained privileges for the Jews in return for loans --in
         Rome, the abolition of the Ghetto, and in England, Jewish
        emancipation-- Solomon [Rothschild] obtained from Metternich
    concessions to the Jews in legislation. It was he who influenced the
   Chancellor to take a favourable stand in the Damascus blood-accusation
                               case of 1840."

   There you have it; Rothschild's money power; the Austrian Chancellor,
     Metternich; the Austrian Consul at Damascus; the Consul's attitude
       towards the Ritual Murder charge. A continuous chain of Jewish
                            corruption by Money.

                7. Suppression of the Reports of the Trial.
   We have already mentioned in the second paragraph of this description
     of the case the record of the trial published in Achille Laurent's
       book. This book cannot now be obtained anywhere. Gougenot des
      Mousseaux, however, had printed a very full account of the trial
        (taken from Laurent) in his work Le Juif, le Judaisme et la
     Judaisation des Peuples Chretiens, a work which earned for him the
    praise of Pope Pius IX who made him a Chevalier; and the writer has
    had a copy of this lent to him. But Gougenot des Mousseaux's book is
    now very rare, and the Chevalier himself died suddenly in mysterious
   circumstances nine hours after receiving a warning letter. Monniot, in
    a work; mentioned in the Bibliography (p. 56), has, however, made it
   easy for anyone who desires to read the details of the trial to do so.

      But, the reader may ask, what about the official dossier of the
    affair? This naturally reposed in the archives of the French Foreign
    Office. But Desportes in his Mystere du Sang reported that under the
      Ministry of Cremieux (one of the Jews who went East to bribe the
    Khedive to release the ritual murderers of Damascus) it disappeared
     (in 1870)! As this report aroused comment, the Chancellerie made a
   declaration (5th May, 1892) that it was incorrect and that the dossier
    remained complete at the Ministry. However that may be, when Albert
   Monniot in 1913 desired to consult the documents themselves to assist
    him in writing his Le Crime Rituel chez les Juifs, he found that he
    was refused permission to peruse them. Whether they are still extant
   or not, therefore, we cannot tell; all we know is that the secrets of
    the Jew are well guarded. But not well enough, as I hope the reader
                             will by now agree.

   Sir Richard Burton. the great explorer and orientalist who was English
   Consul at Damascus 30 years after the Ritual Murder, studied the whole
    question of the Blood Accusation, and: eventually wrote The Jew, the
      Gypsy and El Islam, of which I have the edition edited by NS. H.
     Wilkins and published by Hutchinson in 1898. This work contains a
   damning indictment of the Talmud, and a list of Jewish Ritual Murders,
     but Wilkins in his Preface (p. x) writes: "In the exercise of the
   discretion given to me, I have thought it better to hold over for the
   present the Appendix on the alleged rite of Human Sacrifice among the
     Sephardim and the murder of Padre Tomaso (Father Thomas); the only
            alternative was to publish it in a mutilated form."

      Let us follow therefore (1) the Book, (2) the Appendix on Ritual
                                  Murder.
   (1) The Book. This is easy. It is well nigh unobtainable.
       (2) The Appendix on Ritual Murder. What happened to it? This is
       what happened to it.

   See D. L. Alexander versus Manners Sutton, King's Bench Division, 27th
     March, 1911, reported in The Times the following day. Herein D. L.
     Alexander, a Jew and President of the Jewish Board of Deputies was
   able to show that he had obtained an assignment of the manuscript from
   the surviving executors of Sir Richard Burton. The executors had sold
    them to a bookseller, who, in turn, sold them to Manners Sutton; and
   he (Sutton), not knowing of any assignment, made arrangements for the
     publication of the Appendix. D. L. Alexander brought the action to
      stop this publication from taking place, claiming copyright and
          delivery to him of the manuscript. The Jew won his case.

       It remains only to say that Father Thomas' s gravestone in the
   cemetery at Damascus bore (and presumably still bears) the inscription
    in Arabic and in Italian: "Here lie the remains of Father Thomas of
   Sardinia, Capuchin Missionary, assassinated by the Jews, 5th February,
                                   1840."

   1852 and 1853 Saratov. Two ritual murders are involved this time; one,
      a 10-year-old boy in December, 1852; the other, 11-year-old, in
    January, 1853. After a flood, both bodies were found on the bank of
   the Volga, pierced with many wounds. Eight years afterwards, two Jews,
      Schiffermann and Zourloff, were duly tried for these murders and
    convicted. They were sentenced to 28 years' labour in the mines, and
   they died during their imprisonment. This, being a juridically decided
   case, the sentence in which was passed for "killing two Christian boys
   and having made them endure marytrdom" by the Senate and submitted to
    the Russian Empire Council, is, of course, not mentioned in Strack's
    book! Authority: Monniot's Le Crime Rituel chez. les Juifs, 1914, P.
                                    257.

    1880. Smyrna. Many Jews were massacred after a missing child's body
   had been found on the beach covered with punctured wounds at Passover.
               Authority: Moniteur de Rome, 15th June, 1883.

                  1882. The Tisza Eszlar Case in Hungary
      This is a nineteenth century case, where the prisoners had duly
   confessed, and where, after long drawn out proceedings, they were all
      acquitted as the result of the Organised Power of Jewish Money.

        Esther Solymosi, 14 years old, disappeared on 1st April; the
   five-year-old son of the Jewish sexton told some women that his mother
   had enticed the girl into their house, whence she had been slipped by
   some Jews into the synagogue premises. This report came to the ears of
      Mrs. Solymosi, Esther's mother, who immediately reported to the
   police. An enquiry was set on foot, on 19th May, under Dr. Josef Bary,
   and it is largely from a book written 50 years later by Dr. Bary, who
   became President of the Supreme Court of Justice in Hungary, that the
     facts of the enquiry have come to light. This book is of over 600
    pages, and is called A tiszaeszlari bunper (The Tisza Eszlar Murder
       Trial). These facts can also be checked from the diary of the
    Hungarian Minister for Justice of the period, Theodor Pauler, which
           diary had been kept in the Hungarian National Museum.

      Another son of the Jewish sexton was Maurice Scharf, aged 14. He
    admitted that he had seen through the keyhole of the synagogue door
     that Esther had been murdered by certain Jews and bled white, her
    blood being collected in a vase. It was found by ocular view on the
   spot that the place where these events were said to have occurred was
     actually in sight to anyone looking through the keyhole. Witnesses
   also said they had heard cries from the synagogue on the day when the
                          girl was first missing.

    To test the veracity of the 14-year-old Maurice, the Judge told him
    that his tale could not be true as Esther was alive; the boy replied
    that "no one could be alive after being cut on the neck like that."

   A number of Jews were arrested, and confessed that they had taken part
     in the ritual murder of Esther to get her blood for the Passover.

         One would think that there would be little more to report.

   But no! All Israel got to work with its Money Power, and the Press of
   every country in Europe was employed to throw calumny on the Hungarian
   Court and on Hungarian Justice. The Public Prosecutors were bribed and
    set to work to discredit the honourable Judge who presided over the
    Court. No stone was left unturned, no filthy corrupting action left
    untried, to defeat the course of justice; and the Jews won. Here are
   some of the minor methods by which the Jews with their money tried to
                             confuse the issue:
    1. By paying the debts of, or bribing the officials.
    2. By offering Esther's mother a bribe to say that her daughter was
       alive and in a situation elsewhere. This was done by the Jew
       Reiszmann.
    3. By trying to steal the Court records from the house of the Judge.
    4. By altering the synagogue lock, so that it was no longer possible
       to see the place of the murder by looking through the keyhole.
    5. By spreading reports that Esther had run away; or had been
       drowned. The Examining Judge caused the river to be dragged
       without result.
    6. By arranging that a corpse should turn up and be "identified" as
       Esther's. On 18th June, a girl's body dressed in Esther's clothes,
       which were far too small for the purpose, was drawn out of the
       River Theiss by Jewish raftsmen. The mother denied that the corpse
       was Esther's although she recognised Esther's clothes. A committee
       of experts examined the body, and found that the hair and eyebrows
       had been shaved off, obviously to conceal identity. They also
       found that the body was that of a girl 18 years old (Esther was
       only 14) and that death was due not to drowning but to
       tuberculosis. It became so obvious that the body had been "found"
       for a purpose, that the Jewish raftsmen were interrogated; and
       they confessed that the corpse had been taken over by them from a
       Jew called Herschko, that it had been dressed in Esther's clothes,
       put in the river, and then "discovered" and landed.

   It was found also that the body could not have been in the water over
     four days; that death could not have taken place more than 10 days
              previously. Esther had been missing for 78 days.

   However, in spite of all this exposure of corruption, the Court found
   itself, as it were, an isolated unit in a hostile Europe; and the Jews
                            were all acquitted!

      Then it was found that on 21st July, 1883, Baron Bela Orczy, the
    Hungarian Minister, had visited Minister for Justice Pauler and had
         told him that Goldschmidt, the Budapest representative of
     Rothschild's, had demanded that the charges be withdrawn! At this
    time, debt-conversion was a serious matter for Hungary, and chiefly
   depended on the Rothschild Money Power. Later, Baton Orczy told Pauler
   that Goldschmidt actually demanded that the two Public Prosecutors who
   had made condemnation of the prisoners impossible should be decorated!

   The sort of thing that had been "worked" against all the evidence may
   be explained by giving one example: In November, 1882, a new Committee
   of Experts was formed to make a further examination of the body found
   in the river five months before, and this committee declared that the
     findings of the former committee had no scientific basis, that the
     body was Esther's and that as the throat was not cut, it could not
                     have been a case of ritual murder!

    So ends a dismal tale of the foulest Jewish trickery to enable a few
       miserable degenerates to escape from well-merited punishment.

       1891. Xanten, Prussia. A five-year-old boy called Hegmann was
    murdered, his threat cut and the body bloodless. "The Government did
     all in its power to suppress the rumour" of ritual murder (Jewish
    Encyclopedia, Vol. I, p. 645). The doctor who examined the body said
    (29th June) that: "The trace of blood appears as an after-bleeding."
   On 9th July, he retracted this and explained that his mistake was due
   to it being dark at the time of his examination! I think by this time
   the reader will guess what happened between 29th June and 9th July to
   his banking account. The Minister of Justice, de Schelling, was a Jew.
     The accused Jewish ritual slaughterer, who had been arrested, was
                                 acquitted.

                      1899. The Polna Case (Bohemia).
    Agnes Hruza, 19 years of age, was murdered 29th March, 1899. On 1st
   April, her body was found in a wood with the head nearly severed from
   the body. In spite of this frightful wound, there was no blood about,
         although the body itself, of course, was almost bloodless.

   A man called Peschak had seen a Jew Hilsner with two other Jews on the
    day of the murder on the spot where the body was found. Hilsner was
     arrested and tried; another witness testified that he had seen the
    prisoner very agitated on 29th March, coming from the spot where the
                              body was found.

   The Court, whilst recognising that Hilsner must have had accomplices,
    found him guilty and condemned him to death. He then confessed, and
    implicated two other Jews, but later retracted these statements, as
       also his confession. The two men produced satisfactory alibis.

   By the Power of Jewish Money and the agitation it was able to raise, a
    new trial was ordered. Meanwhile Dr. Baxa, attorney for the murdered
    girl's mother, had in a speech in the Bohemian Dict, 28th December,
    accused the Government of showing partiality to the Jews in the way
                          they handled this case.

   Then, another girl's body was found, too decomposed to show the cause
    of death; this was the body of Maria Klima) who had disappeared 17th
    July, 1898. Hilsner was charged with both murders when the case came
   on again in November. This time, a witness stated that at the time of
        the first murder, Hilsner had a ritual slaughterer's knife.

   Dr. Baxa insisted that it was a case of Ritual Murder. The Court found
   the prisoner guilty, without however alleging ritual reasons, and the
    prisoner was sentenced to death on 14th November, 1900. However, the
         Emperor intervened, and the sentence was commuted to life
                               imprisonment.

    The prisoner's counsel at this trial was Masaryk, later President of
    Czecho-Slovakia, this work seems to have stood him in good stead in
                                after life!

     Hilsner was released from prison by the Marxists in the rioting of
                      1918; he died a few years later.

                 __________________________________________
5

                                 CHAPTER XI

              WELL AUTHENTICATED CASES IN THE PRESENT CENTURY
   THE best known of these is the Beiliss case at Kiev, 1911-13. It will
    be noticed that there are several cases also in Germany at the time
      when the Jews were the supreme power there previous to Hitler's
                                  success.

     1900. Konitz, West Prussia. A 19-year-old youth, Ernst Winter, was
   murdered in March. His body had been dismembered and parts of it were
   found in different localities. The culprits were never discovered, but
   two Jewish agents were sentenced to imprisonment for false witness and
    for the subornation of witnesses during the enquiry! The post mortem
    examination was said to have shown death due to suffocation, but the
   county physician had previously pronounced death to have occurred from
    loss of blood. A large assembly of foreign Jews visited the town the
    night of the murder and left next day. This case aroused the country
    against the Jews, and its description occupied 2 pages of the Jewish
                               Encyclopedia.

   1911-13. Kiev,Russia. This is by far the most important proved ritual
   murder case of the 20th century and is generally known as the Beiliss
                                   Case.

      In 1911, a 13-year-old boy's body was found at Kiev with curious
      wounds and drained of blood. A Jew named Beiliss was arrested on
                                 suspicion.

     It was proved that the murder took place inside the premises of a
      Jewish brick factory to which only Jews had access. This factory
        contained a Jewish hospice with a secret synagogue attached.

   After long-drawn-out preliminaries, Beiliss, who was proprietor of the
     factory, was tried; the jury found that there was no proof that he
   himself was the culprit, although half of them considered he was; the
   verdict therefore having to be unanimous, he was declared Not Guilty.
   But the jury agreed as to the cause of the boy's death; their verdict
                         about this was as follows:

   The boy "after being gagged, was wounded with a perforating instrument
    in the nape of the neck, temples and neck, which wounds severed the
   cerebral vein, the left temporal and jugular arteries, producing thus
   profuse hemorrhage; and afterwards, when Joutchinski (the boy's name)
    had lost about five glasses of blood. his body was pierced with the
      same instrument, lacerating thus the lungs, the liver, the right
   kidney and the heart, where the last wounds were inflicted, in all 47
       wounds, causing acute suffering to the victim and the loss of
         practically all the blood of the body, and finally death."

      Thus, although the murder could not be fixed upon any particular
     individual, its ritual character was quite certain, the boy being
                        first bled and then killed.

          There were many strange features about this trial, viz.:

   (1) On 17th October, 1913, the presiding Judge had to warn the Jewish
    pressmen against persisting in reporting perverted renderings of the
   evidence, and said that if they continued in this practice, then would
                 be refused permission to attend the Court.

    (2) Two children, Genia and Valentine Tcheberiak, who were important
     witnesses against Beiliss, died suddenly shortly after his arrest.
    This was after they had eaten sweetmeats given to them by a degraded
      police agent called Krassowsky. They were examined by two Jewish
      doctors at the hospital and were certified to be suffering from
      dysentery the bacilli of that disease having been found in them
                          according to the report.

    Next, it was discovered that their mother had been offered (and had
      refused) a bribe of 40,000 roubles by a Jew lawyer to take upon
      herself the guilt for the murder of the stabbed boy Joutchinski.

       Finally, the Jews actually suggested she had poisoned the two
   children, the Jews having characteristically forgotten for the moment
        those dysentery bacilli that had been reported to have been
                                discovered!

   (3) Several important witnesses gave expert opinion that the Jews use
    Christian blood to mix with the unleavened bread at certain feasts,
      and that Christian children are killed by Jews for the purpose.

      One of these was Father Pranaitis, theologian and Hebraist, who
    considered that the evidence showed every sign of it being a Jewish
    ritual murder. Father Pranaitis said that the Zohar, the cabbalistic
    book of the Chassidim sect of Jews, described the ritual of murder,
   prescribing thirteen stabs in the right temple seven in the left one,
    which is exactly how the head of the murdered boy had been treated.
    Another expert witness was Professor Sikorski of Kiev University, a
     medical psychologist, who also regarded the case as one of Ritual
                                  Murder.

    After the Jewish Bolshevik revolution, the Cheka shot the Judge, the
       Public Prosecutor and many of the witnesses, including Father
      Pranaitis, the medical expert Kozoratov, and Professor Sikorski.
   Professor Pawlow, who was a witness for the defence, became a leading
                       scientist in Bolshevik Russia!

     The ex-General Alexandre Netchvoldov of the Russian Imperial Army,
   tells us the rest in an article, "La Russie et les Juifs," in Le Front
   Unique, published at Oran, 1927, p. 59: Quoting Evrijskaja Tribuna of
   24th August, 1922, he says "that at a visit of the Rabbi of Moscow to
   Lenin, the first word Lenin said to his visitor was to ask him it the
    Jews were satisfied with the Soviet tribunal which had annulled, the
       Beiliss verdict, saying that Joutchinksy had been killed by a
                                Christian!"

                         Yes, Bolshevism is Jewish!

   (4) A "British protest," published in The Times, dated 6th May, 1912,
   signed by the usual Archbishops and bishops, together with dukes (such
    as the late Duke of Norfolk who had been married to a Jewish woman),
   earls (such as Rosebery, married to a Rothschild), and people like the
    late Rt. Hon. A. J. Balfour, fulminated against the "revival" of the
     Ritual Murder charge; the "Blood Accusation" was described in this
   protest as "a relic of the days of witchcraft and black magic, a cruel
                  and utterly baseless libel on Judaism."

        Is it not amazing that where Jewish interests are concerned,
   Englishmen of standing will try to influence the course of justice by
            thus interfering before Beiliss had even been tried?

     Beiliss died in America in 1934, and his funeral was made that of.
                           Jewish national hero.

        1928. Gladbeck, Germany. This occurred at the time of Purim;
    twenty-year-old lad called Helmuth Daube was found dead in front of
     his home, with his throat cut, his genital organs missing, whilst
   there were wounds on the hands and stabs in the abdomen. There was no
     blood about where the body was found and it was bloodless. Experts
    said in Court that the throat showed the Jewish ritual cut. The Jews
   set to work and eventually a young Gentile called Huszmann was accused
   of the murder, unnatural lust being alleged as a feature in the crime.
   The case was conducted against Huszmann by a Jew called Rosenbaum, and
       special police had been sent from Berlin to enquire about the
      circumstances; the President of the Police at Berlin was the Jew
    Bernhard Weiss. These special police did what they could to convince
   the Court that it was a "lust-murder," but Huszmann was acquitted. The
    Bochumer Abendblatt and Der Sturmer both gave their opinion that it
   was a Ritual Murder by Jews, and the latter paper was suppressed for a
                      time, and its editor imprisoned.

   1929. Manan, Germany. A five-year-old boy named Kessler disappeared on
   17th March. The body was found in a wood, with throat cut from ear to
   ear superficially whilst there was a deep stab in the neck cutting the
   main vessels. The body was bloodless and there was no blood found near
     it. It was just before Passover, and the local Jewish butcher had
   suddenly disappeared. Dr. Burgel, the Court doctor, said it was a case
     of Ritual Murder. The Jew Money Power got to work to influence the
      authorities and public opinion. Before the official inquiry, the
    Public Prosecutor announced that it was not a case of Ritual Murder.
     The Judge decided the boy had met with an accidental stab from the
    branch of a tree or from an animal's horn, and the case was dropped.
                  No one was ever arrested for the crime.

   1932. Paderborn, Germany. Martha Kaspar was the Gentile servant in the
    household of a Jewish butcher named Meyer. This man had a son Kurt,
     and this Kurt had had sexual relations with the servant who became
    pregnant. She demanded that he should marry her, and the father and
     son promised that this should happen, but secretly decided to make
    away with the girl. On 18th March, near Purim, she disappeared. Two
     days later some human flesh was found on the road, and the Jewish
    Press began to spread the idea that there had been a "lust-murder."
     Investigation revealed blood on Kurt's clothes and in a hayloft of
      Meyer's, and both the Meyers were arrested. Dr. Frank, a Jewish
     lawyer, succeeded in getting the father certified as a lunatic and
     sent to an asylum, but he was soon freed and fled the country. The
   son, Kurt, said he had attempted to procure abortion, and that he had
   cut the girl's body up and distributed it in various places; a doctor
   told the Court that some litres of blood must have been taken. Later,
   Kurt said he had killed the girl in a fit of temper. The Court brought
    in a verdict of manslaughter, and sentenced Kurt Meyer to 15 years'
     imprisonment. The general newspapers did not report the case; Der
     Sturmer said it was Ritual Murder, and was suppressed for a time.
        These circumstances cause me to include this case among the
                         "well-authenticated" ones.

   It will be noted that the last three cases occurred at a time when the
    Jews were supreme in Germany just before the Hitler revolution, when
      it was easy to suppress all expression of opinion as to the true
                           nature or the murders.

                 __________________________________________


                                CHAPTER XII

                             THE JEWISH DEFENCE
   THE Jews and their advocates use sundry arguments whereby they seem to
    have successfully camouflaged and almost obliterated in this country
    the trail of historic fact concerning the practice of Ritual Murder.
    When the author was proceeded against in 1936 for daring to mention
   Jewish Ritual Murder, the trial was reported in some newspapers under
   the heading "Amazing Story," as though he had invented it! Let us list
                  the Jewish "arguments" and answer them:Ñ

     1. That the confessions made by the accused Jews were extracted by
                                  torture.

     This is true of many medieval cases; it is unlikely that the Jews
   would confess without such aids to memory, because of the certain dire
               consequences that would follow the confession.

    But I have shown in Chapter 13 (which see) that many confessions of
   the practice of Ritual Murder by Jews have been made by those who have
        been converted to the Christian faith and made freely; many
     confessions have been made by accused Jews without torture, or by
       their relations without torture; whilst at Damascus, where the
   bastinado was used to aid the memory of the accused, it inspired them
    to reveal where the fragments of the bodies of the murdered men were
     to be found, and they were found in the indicated spots; I take it
    that Jews do not allege that the bastinado endowed the culprits with
                          telepathic second sight?

                   There is thus nothing in the argument.

      2. That the Jewish laws not only do not sanction the practice of
                Ritual Murder, but forbid the use of blood.

     In other words, John Smith cannot be guilty of theft from William
     Brown because the Eighth Commandment says 'Thou shalt not steal.'

       There is nothing in this argument, dealt with in Chapter III.

    3. That the Blood Accusation is the result of mediaval and ignorant
                               superstition.

        In Chapter V, I show that there were, according to the Jews
     themselves, more Blood Accusations in the 19th century than in any
                               previous one.

                There is therefore nothing in this argument.

       4. That the guilt of the Jews was not juridically established.

      The emptiness of this statement is shown in Chapter XIV, where a
   number of cases are quoted in which, through the centuries, competent
    and full authority decided the guilt of the accused or approved the
                                  verdict.

                     There is nothing in this argument

                      5. That it couldn't happen now.

              Chapter VI is devoted to meeting this objection.

          It will be seen that there is nothing in the objection.

      The objection appeals to the good-nature of the Aryan mind which
   cannot conceive anything so alien as a desire to commit Ritual Murder.
      It is the false teaching of Equality of Race, spread by Masonry,
       perverted religion and democracy, that is responsible for this
                             attitude of mind.

    6. That Papal Bulls refuse credence to the charge of Ritual Murder.

                  This matter is dealt with in Chapter XV.

    There are Popes who obviously wished to register their disbelief in
             the practice of Ritual Murder by Jews, and did so.

     There are other Popes who equally registered by their actions and
                 Bulls that they did believe in the charge.

                    So there is nothing in the argument.

    7. That Pope Gregory XIV's report of 1758 (made when he was Cardinal
   Ganganelli) is a final and incontrovertible refutation of the charge.

    In Chapter XV, I have shown how actually this report by the Cardinal
   is proved utterly unreliable as he says in it that "he endeavoured to
    demonstrate the non-existence of the crime," which shows that he did
        not endeavour to demonstrate the truth, which is all that an
    investigator has any right to do; whilst he specifically admits that
     St. Simon of Trent and St. Andreas of Rinn were killed by Jews in
    hatred of the faith of Jesus Christ. Thus, Pope Gregory XIV is that
     most valuable witness in the support of the Blood Accusation--the
                             unwilling witness.

   8. The charges are unworthy of credence because they have been brought
                              by anti-semites.

    This is an argument used by the Jew, Israel Abrahams, in his article
    on Ritual Murder in the 11th edition of the Encyclopedia Britannica,
     in which he writes: "The literature on the other side is entirely
       anti-semitic and in no instance has it survived the ordeal of
                                criticism."

      How strangely the Jewish mind works! How could anyone fail to be
   "anti-semitic" if they believed that that Jews commit ritual murder of
                             Gentile children?

   If there is not a glut of literature on the subject in English, it is
   not any ordeal of criticism which has brought about the scarcity, but
       the Jewish Money Power which has been brought to bear on that
      literature, making it so scarce that no one can get hold of it.
   Instance, Sir Richard Burton's The Jew, the Gypsy and El Islam, by an
     author of unimpeachable integrity and illustrious fame, a book the
          fate of which has been described on page 28, which see.

    So much for the Jews' methods of defence by argument. Now let us see
            what other methods of defence they adopt. These are:

   1. The killing of authors or witnesses, or of others with knowledge of
                                the subject.

     On page 27 are recorded the circumstances surrounding the death of
        Gougenot des Mousseaux, author of Le Juif, le Judaisme et la
    Judaisation, etc.; on page 32 is registered the fact of the death of
   child witnesses in the Kiev case, 1911-13; on p. 33 is given the fate
      of the Judge, counsel and expert witnesses in the same case, all
                     murdered by the Jewish Bolsheviks.

       2. Violent abuse of lawyers, witnesses for the prosecution or
                                 accusers.

   This is a modern development since the Jews obtained control over the
   Gentile press. It was marked in cases of the 19th and 20th centuries.

   The Jewish Press in this country has succeeded in so reviling the name
     of Herr Julius Streicher, editor of Der Sturmer, that many decent
    citizens take it for granted that Herr Streicher is a kind of crazy
     and sadistic devil instead of (as we know him to be) a gallant and
                          faithful German officer.

      3. Disappearance of books containing evidence of Ritual Murders.

   Under the description of the 1840 Damascus case, I give particulars of
   the fate of the Official Dossier, and of Gougenot des Mousseaux's and
                        Sir Richard Burton's books.

     The suppression of reports of trials has been noted in pre-Hitler
                Jew-controlled Germany in the 20th century.

               4. The silencing of reference to Ritual Murder

    The penal laws are stretched in the Jew-run countries to secure the
   imprisonment of anyone daring to break the Jew-imposed silence on the
   subject of Ritual Murder. Herr Julius Streicher was imprisoned in 1928
    for this "offence," and the author of the present work was sentenced
     by a 31st degree Scottish Rite Masonic Judge in 1936 to six months
      imprisonment among criminals on a trumped-up charge of the same
                                  nature.

   Nevertheless there is no law in England forbidding reference to Ritual
                                  Murder.

     5. Deliberate misrepresentation of the statements of athoritative
                                  people.

     A good example of this is described on p.p. 43-44, where the late
        Baron Rothschild endeavoured to use Cardinal Merry del Val's
      confirmation of the authenticity of a certain Papal letter as a
   confirmation of a false interpretation of the contents of that letter
    made by Baron Rothschild himself. Another example is in the case of
   the Jewish Encyclopedia, Hyamson's History of the Jews in England and
    Lucien Wolf's Essays in Jewish History, all of which assert that the
   Khedive of Egypt declared the condemned Jews in the Damascus murder to
     be innocent; he simply released them contemptuously for spot cash,
                       without any such declaration.

   6. Bribery of the witnesses for the prosecution, the officials of the
         courts, or the Potentates who could overrule those courts.

     Examples of this are the cases of Rhodes and of Damascus in 1840,
          Tisza Eszlar in 1882, Konitz in 1900, and Kiev, 1911-13.

                  7. False accusations of innocent people.

                  As in the cases of Kiev and of Gladbeck.

      8. The production of a corpse supposed to be that of the missing
   victim, but actually that of someone who died from a cause other than
           Ritual Murder; this was done in the Tisza Eszlar case.

         9. Refusal or threatened refusal of loans to governments.

     From Jewish sources, I give on p. 27 an instance where Rothschild
   influence in the matter of loans clearly governed the attitude of the
   Austrian consul at Damascus through the Chancellor Metternich, in the
                                 1840 case.

   On p. 30 is shown how the same Rothschild family were able to threaten
   the Government of Hungary so as to induce it to cause the acquittal of
             the accused Jews in the 1882 case at Tisza Eszlar.

    In all methods of propaganda, the Jew Money Power ends ready allies
        among the gullible Gentiles, particularly among Archbishops,
     politicians, and even with Royalty. These rely chiefly on the idea
    that the Blood Accusation is a relic of the dark and wicked ages of
    the past, an idea which I have shown to have no foundation in fact.

     How is it that influential Gentiles so readily lend themselves in
    support of the Jews against the Blood Accusation? The answer to this
       question deserves a short chapter to itself. (See Chapter XX.)

   There have been a number of books published from time to time refuting
     the Blood Accusation; some of these are written by Jews, others by
     Gentiles. Among such, the best known are those of Strack and Cecil
      Roth. The works of Drs. Loeb and Lea are proved worthless; these
                     concerned the Toledo case of 1490.

     The Jew and Human Sacrifice, by H. L. Strack, Regius Professor of
       Theology at Berlin, went through eight editions before it was
     published in English in 1909. Strack was a Gentile, but his French
       edition was prefaced by the Jew Theodore Reinach, who was both
   son-in-law and nephew to Baron Jacques Reinach, who was found dead in
   bed after a warrant for his arrest had been issued in connection with
                         the Panama Canal scandal.

    The English edition is a book of 289 pages, of which only pp. 160 to
         274 are relevant to the issue. The book is damned because
    1. there is no mention of the case of St. Hugh of Lincoln;
    2. no mention of Benedict XIV's Bull in which that Pope beatifies St.
       Simon of Trent, a victim of ritual murder, whilst the Bulls of
       other Popes are freely quoted as an argument against the Blood
       Accusation;
    3. in describing the Damascus case, no mention is made that the
       flogging of the accused Jews caused them actually to reveal where
       the remains of the two murdered men were to be found; and
    4. the authorities quoted by Strack with regard to the La Guardia,
       Toledo, ritual murder have been proved by Walsh utterly
       unreliable.

   The Ritual Murder Libel and the Jew, 1935, by the Jew, Cecil Roth, is
                adequately dealt with on page 45, which see.

                 __________________________________________

6
__________________________________________

                                CHAPTER XIII

                                EVIDENCE OF
                               CONVERTED JEWS
     Jews who have professed conversion to Christianity have sometimes
   denied that there is any practice of Ritual Murder of Christians among
    people of the Jewish faith. On the other hand, many "converts" have
                confessed that Jews practice Ritual Murder.

    When one considers that the history of the Marrano ("converted" Jew)
   community has conclusively shown that the conversion of these Jews was
        simply a ruse and as false as the Jew himself, and that the
    establishment of the Inquisition of Spain was almost entirely due to
    the fact that the pretended converts could be dealt with in no other
   way, they practising Jewish rites secretly whilst outwardly pretending
    to be devout followers of the Church, one will naturally place more
    credence on those "converts" who admit that Jewish Ritual Murder is
                    practised than on those who deny it.

      It would be interesting to know whether those converts, who have
     admitted the fact of Ritual Murder, were people with a mixture of
    either the Aryan or of the Alpine racial strain in their blood. But
                      that knowledge is denied to us.

       The cases which have come to light in which Jewish converts to
   Christianity or to Mahomedanism have confessed that: Ritual Murder is
           practiced by Jews are chronologically arranged below:

      1144. Theobald, a monk and a Jewish convert, of Cambridge, came
   forward at the time when enquiry was being made into the death of St.
    William of Norwich, and said that as a Jew in Norwich he himself had
   known that a child was to be sacrificed at that place in 1144. He said
     that the custom of the Jews was to draw lots as to where the deed
   should be done, and that it fell to Norwich to supply the blood which
   was required by them in the year 1144; the Jews believed that without
    the shedding of human blood, they could never gain their freedom and
                            return to Palestine.

       1468. Bishop Jean d'Avila, himself the son of a converted Jew,
    actually investigated the Ritual Murder case in Segovia, Spain, and
   himself found the Jews guilty, who were afterwards executed (see page
                                    18).

     1475 Hans Vayol, converted Jew, charged the Rabbi of Ratisbon with
         Ritual Murder for the sake of the blood. Authority: Jewish
                    Encyclopedia, Vol. II, p. 16 (1903).

   1475 Wolfkan of Rutisban, Jewish convert to Christianity, charged the
   Jews with the Ritual Murder of St. Simon of Trent for the sake of the
   blood they required for their Passover celebrations. Authority: Ibid,
                          Vol. XII, p. 554 (1906).

      1475. A converted Jew, Jean de Feltro, described to the officer
   investigating the Ritual Murder of St. Simon of Trent, how his father
   had told him that the Jews of his town had killed a child at Passover
                 to get the blood for their Passover bread.

      1490. Torquemada, himself of Jewish blood (Roth, History of the
     Marranos, 1931, p. 39), must have confirmed the sentence of death
     against the Jews responsible for the Toledo ritual murder, and it
   would be through him that Ferdinand and Isabella would learn about it.
   The Ritual Murder case was one of the main factors which disposed the
                King and Queen to expel the Jews from Spain.

      1494. Alonzo de Spina, stated by a Jew historian to have been of
   Jewish blood (History of the Marranos, Roth, 1932, p. 34) accused the
    Jews of murdering children for ritual purposes. He occupied the high
     position of Rector of Salamanca University, and his accusation was
                    made in his work Fortalitium Fidei.

     1555. Hananel di Foligno, of Rome, Jewish convert to Christianity,
    accused the Jews before Pope Marcellus 11 of the Ritual Murder of a
   boy. Enquiry under the auspices of a Cardinal resulted in a Mahomedan
       apostate, guardian of the murdered boy, being charged with the
    crucifixion of his ward "for the sake of getting possession of some
   property." This sounds like the usual cock-and-bull story which, under
    the powerful influence of Jew Money, is resorted to when Courts are
       faced with the difficult job of shielding Jews from "the Blood
    Accusation." Why on earth should the man crucify the boy instead of
    quietly getting rid of him in a more usual manner? Authority: Jewish
                    Encyclopedia (1903), Vol. V, p. 423.

   1614. Samuel Friedrich Brenz, a Jew, who was converted in I610, wrote
   a book revealing the Ritual Murder practice of the Jews. It was called
   Judischer Abgestreifter Schlangenbalg and was published at Nuremberg.
   The title translated is The Jewish Serpent's Skin Stripped. The Jewish
       Encyclopedia's description of the author speaks of his "crass
   ignorance, hatred, falsehood and pernicious fanaticism." The book was
                   republished in 1680 and again in 1715.

       1720. Paul Christian Kirchner, converted Jew, admitted in his
      Judisches Ceremoniel, Frankfurt, that dried Christian blood was
        considered useful as a remedy for certain diseases of women.

    18--. Paulus Meyer, converted Jew, accused the Jews of Ritual Murder
      in his Wolfe in Schafsfell, Schafe in Wolfspelz (Wolf in Sheep's
   Clothing, etc.). He had a libel action brought against him by the Jews
    he accused of being involved in a case of alleged ritual murder, and
                   was sentenced to four months' arrest.

     The Jewish Encyclopedia describes all these last three authors as
             "malicious and ignorant enemies of their people."

     17--. A converted Jew, Serafinovicz, wrote a book admitting Ritual
   Murder as a Jewish practice. Authority: The Jew, C. Roth Ritual Murder
                      Libel and the Jew, 1935, p. 24.

   1759. A converted Jew, J. J. Frank, formed a sect called the Frankists
    at Lemberg. These people were all Jews who had become Christians in
    revolt against the evils taught in the Talmud. They said that it was
     the Talmud which was the root of all the troubles between Jews and
       Gentiles. Prince Etienne de Mikoulissky, administrator of the
       archidiocese of Lemberg, instituted public debates between the
    Frankists and the Talmudic Jews. A debate held in July took place in
   which various matters were dealt with point by point until six points
   had been settled; the seventh one was the Frankists' declaration that
      "the Talmud teaches the employment of Christian blood and he who
   believes in the Talmud ought to make use of this blood." The Frankists
    said they had learned this in their youth as Jews. Under the heading
    Baruch Yavan, the Jewish Encyclopedia, 1903) Vol. II, p. 563, admits
        that the Frankists brought the blood accusation against the
      Talmudists; also in Vol. VII, p. 579, under Judah Lob ben Nathan
                                   Krysa.

    The Frankists completely defeated their opponents in these debates.
      Ultimately they became assimilated into the Christian community.

        There is a large bibliography with reference to the Frankist
   community, of which the following two works may receive mention here:
    La malfaisance juive, by Pikulski, Lvov, 1760; and Materiaux sur la
    question relative aux accusations portees contre les Juifs a propos
        des crimes rituels, by J. O. Kouzmine, St. Petersburg, 1914.

    1803. A converted ex-Rabbi wrote a book in the Moldavian language in
   1803 which was published again in Greek in I834 by Giovanni de Georgio
     under the title Rain of the Hebraic Religion. This converted Rabbi
      called himself by the name Neophyte. Extracts from his book were
   quoted in Achille Laurent's Relation Historique des Affaires de Syrie
   depuis 1840 a 1842, a book described on p. 24 under the Damascus case.
       This extract gives very full information, confirms the murder,
   crucifixion and bleeding of Christians by Jews for Ritual purposes and
   the use of the blood for mixing with the Passover bread; and says that
   the practice is handed down by oral tradition and that nothing appears
    about it in writing in the Jewish religious books. Monniot in his Le
      Crime Ritual chez les Juifs copies long extracts from Laurent's
                         quotations from Neophyte.

   1826. Paul Louis Bernard Drach, ex-Grand Rabbi of Strasburg, published
     a Deuxieme lettre d'un rabbin converti, Paris, 1827. On page 7 he
   said: "The zeal of these Rabbis goes as far as dedicating to death all
     those who follow the doctrine of the Trinity, and consequently all
                           Christian Israelites."

   1840. Ex-Rabbi Mousa Abou-el-Afieh, who became a Mahommedan during the
     Damascus Ritual Murder trial, gave evidence that the blood of the
    murdered Father Thomas had been ordered by the Grand Rabbi Yakoub el
      Entabi, and was required for the use of zealous persons who sent
     Yakoub their flour for Passover, in which he mixed the Christian's
    blood. The employment of the blood was a secret of the Grand Rabbis.

   1913. A converted Jew, Cesare Algranati, enumerated a number of ritual
    murders for a book Cahiers Romains, 1913, a Catholic publication of
    Rome. Its date was 29th November, 1913. Over 100 cases are cited, of
   which 27 were in the 19th century. Authority: A. Arcand, in Le Miroir,
                     Montreal, September, 1932, p. 12.

                 __________________________________________


                                CHAPTER XIV

                  CASES CONFIRMED BY CONSTITUTED AUTHORITY
    THE Jews are wont to pretend that the Blood Accusation, as they call
       it, is the product of medieval superstition and credulity, and
   anti-Jewish prejudice. They bring forward as examples cases where Jews
   have been wrongfully charged with Ritual Murder or against whom there
   was insufficient evidence, the mob taking the initiative and lynching
                      every Jew it could lay hands on.

    Such things have occurred, but they are quite useless in support of
              the Jewish claim of innocence of Ritual Murders.

     There is an exact analogy in more modern times in the case of the
      negroes of the Southern States of the U.S.A. Everyone knows that
     lynching has been resorted to where negroes have been suspected of
   certain outrages against white women and children. Everyone knows also
   that sometimes the mob, in its racial thirst for vengeance, and in its
      impatience of the slow and corrupt legal procedure, has lynched
      innocent men. But no one will argue on such grounds that negroes
   guilty of such offences have not frequently met with the rough justice
    they deserved at the hands of the mob, or that negroes never attack
   white women and children! Yet the Jews bring forward this same rotten
      argument to shield themselves from the charge of Ritual Murder!
     Because innocent Jews have been lynched, no Jew ever does a Ritual
                                  Murder!

      We have, fortunately, many cases on record in which constituted
    authority has duly tried the Jewish murderers and found them guilty,
       or has, sometimes without finding the culprit, given a verdict
    concerning the cause of death which leaves no doubt as to its ritual
                 character. Let me enumerate some of these:

   1192. Jews convicted after personal investigation by Philip Augustus,
                     a sagacious man of good judgment.

    1255. The case of "Little St. Hugh" at Lincoln, duly tried by proper
         authority and the judgment approved of by King Henry III.

     1288. Jews tried by proper authority for ritual murder at Troyes.

   1468. Jews tried by the Bishop of Segovia, himself son of a converted
                                    Jew.

               1475. Jews tried at Trent by proper authority.

              1480. Jews tried at Venice by proper authority.

               1485. Jews tried at Padua by proper authority.

   1490. Jews tried for the Toiedo ritual murder by the most learned men
   of the Universities of Salamanca and of Avila, under proper authority.

     1494. Jews tried by proper authority for ritual murder at Hungary.

     1670. Jew tried by proper authority at Metz. Sentenced by order of
                                Parliament.

      1698. Jew tried by the highest tribunal of the land for a ritual
                        murder at Sandomir, Poland.

   1748. Jews tried for ritual murder at Duniagrod, Poland, by Episcopal
                                   Court.

     1753. Jews tried by Episcopal Court at Kiev for a ritual murder at
                                 Zhytomir.

    1753. Jews tried by Episcopal Court for ritual murder at Pavalochi,
                                  Poland.

     1831. Jews tried by proper authority at St. Petersburg for ritual
                                  murder.

   1840. Jews tried by proper authority at Damascus for the ritual murder
                     of Father Thomas and his servant.

    1852 and 1853. Jews tried for two ritual murders at Saratov. Actual
                    trial eight years after the murder.

        1899. Jew convicted of the Polna murder by proper authority.

     1911-13. Verdict of the Court in the Kiev case that the victim had
    been first bled and then killed; murderer not identified. See p. 32.

    Finally we may also mention the case at Breslau in 1888 (see Chapter
   XVIII) where a rabbinical student was found guilty of extracting blood
       from a Christian boy without intention to cause fatal injury.

     It is interesting to note that when the Jew, Jacob Selig, made his
     appeal to the Pope in 1758 complaining of "persecution" of Jews in
   Poland by means of the blood accusation, he admitted that the cases he
             complained of had been brought before the Courts!

     In pre-Hitler Jew-controlled Germany, there were several cases in
   which the Courts were obviously made use of for the smothering of the
    Ritual Murder Accusation, just as the Old Bailey was made use of in
           1936 in an endeavour to silence me on the same matter.

                 __________________________________________


                                CHAPTER XV

                              THE ATTITUDE OF
                            THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
                                  TOWARDS
                            JEWISH RITUAL MURDER
   THE Jew, Cecil Roth, in Ritual Murder Libel and the Jew, 1935, p. 20,
   says: "The Catholic Church never gave the slightest countenance to the
   calumny" (the blood accusation). This seems to be very inaccurate, as
                           we shall demonstrate.

   The Jews say that the Popes Innocent IV, Gregory X, Martin V, Nicholas
   V, Paul III, Clement XII and Clement XIV have all expressed disbelief
                   in the Ritual Murder practice of Jews.

   Let us first take the case of Innocent IV, who has issued Bulls about
        the matter on 28th May and 5th July, 1247, and again on 25th
   September, 1253. Now the first of these simply demands that no action
     should be taken against Jews on a Ritual Murder charge unless they
    have been tried and found guilty; the Bull of 1253 defended the Jews
   against the charge of Ritual Murder because the Old Testament did not
                          sanction that practice!

   But the views of Innocent IV are dealt with in the Catholic Bulletin,
    Dublin, August, 1916, pp. 435-8, from which I shall quote. The late
     Lord Rothschild was greatly perturbed about a Ritual Murder trial
    which; was going on at Kiev in 1913, and which we describe fully in
    this book (see p. 32). He wrote a letter to Cardinal Merry del Val,
    asking him to state whether the Bull of Innocent IV dated 5th July,
   1247, was authentic; Lord Rothschild said that this Bull declared that
    Ritual Murder was "an unfounded and perfidious invention." When the
   Cardinal replied that the letter was authentic, this was taken to mean
    that Innocent IV had denied the existence of ritual murder by Jews!
       But note that no such statement as Baron Rothschild imputed to
                   Innocent IV was contained in the Bull!

      Let the Catholic Bulletin deal with the matter in its own words:

    "The document [the Bull] consists of two parts, one part sums up the
   case as presented by the Jews themselves. The Pope states that he has
   received a complaint that the Jews are being oppressed and pillaged by
   both ecclesiastical and secular princes, that they are being cast into
    prison, and even put to death, without trial or confession of guilt,
   that they are being falsely accused of ritual crime which they assert
   is manifestly opposed to their law, namely the Divine Scriptures. The
     second part, which alone expresses the Pope's mind, is as follows:

     "not wishing, therefore, that the said Jews be unjustly harassed,
      whose conversion God expects in his mercy . . . we wish that you
   should show yourselves benign and favourable towards them. Restore to
     their proper state those of the mentioned matters that you find to
   have been rashly attempted by the said Nobles against the Jews, and do
     not permit that in the future they should be for those or similar
                   pretexts unjustly molested by anyone."

    "Jews must consider Christians to be very uncritical and gullible if
     they think they can he induced to accept this document as a papal
    declaration that ritual crime does not exist. It is obvious that the
      Sovereign Pontiff merely gives instructions according to general
   principles, ordering that the Jews should not be unjustly oppressed or
    molested. He makes no pronouncement whatever regarding the truth or
      falsehood of the specific charges. Naturally, he must leave the
    decision regarding this point to the judgment of the bishops to whom
   he writes. Least of all was he likely to be impressed by the sophistry
      that ritual crime could not exist among the Jews because it was
     forbidden in the sacred Scriptures. None could know better than he
      that it was not the teaching of the Scriptures, but the infamous
     teachings of the Talmud that caused people to look upon Jews as a
   grave danger to society. Only three years before the appearance of his
      letter, namely in 1244, he showed plainly what he thought of the
      Talmud by pressing Louis IX to collect from his subjects all the
          copies he could obtain and consign them to the flames."

    Before leaving Innocent IV. I ask the reader to realise the typical
     Jewish cunning exhibited by Rothschild in exploiting the answer of
        Cardinal del Val regarding the authenticity of the letter as
   confirming an interpretation of that letter's contents by Rothschild!
                                How Jewish!

    Gregory X in a Bull of 7th October, 1272, is a little more explicit
   than Innocent IV; the same exhortation is made for legal trial of all
     cases, but he says that they should "not be arrested again on such
   groundless charge unless (which we think impossible) they are captured
   in flagrant crime." Gregory thus does not deny that the crime exists;
                    he says he thinks it is impossible.

   Pope Martin V, Nicholas V, Paul III and Clement XIII issued statements
   which show to my satisfaction, although not apparently to that of some
    anti-Jew writers, that they did not wish to support the opinion that
         the Ritual Murder charge was a true one against the Jews.

    Then we come to Clement XIV. Before he became Pope, he was Cardinal
        Ganganelli. He was despatched by the Inquisition in 1759 to
    investigate Ritual Murder charges against the Jews in Poland, and he
   wrote a long report about it. This report is quoted in full in Roth's
    Ritual Murder Libel and the Jew and is, indeed, the only "evidence"
          brought forward by Roth in that book, published in 1935.

   From beginning to end of Ganganelli's report, there is nothing that a
    scientific investigator would regard as evidence that Ritual Murder
   was not practised by Jews. The Polish cases he admits were juridically
   decided; and he brings forward examples of definitely false charges of
   Ritual Murder such as everyone knows have arisen, but which do not in
    the least affect the question as to whether Ritual Murder happens or
   not. He merely opposes his opinion to those of the men in authority on
                                 the spot.

    But there is more. Definitely, and far from being able to refute the
     charge of Ritual Murder against Jews, Ganganelli admits the Ritual
     Murders of St. Simon of Trent and of St. Andreas of Rinn in these
                                   words:

     "I admit then, as true, the fact of the Blessed Simon, a boy three
    years old, killed by the Jews in Trent in the year 1475 in hatred of
     the faith of Jesus Christ"; and "I also admit the truth of another
    fact, which happened in the year 1462 in the village of Rinn, in the
       Diocese of Brixen, in the person of the Blessed Andreas, a boy
      barbarously murdered by the Jews in hatred of the faith of Jesus
                                  Christ."

     One thing concerning Ganganelli's report seems to have escaped the
      notice of other anti-Jewish workers, and to my mind it damns the
     report from the beginning; in undertaking an investigation such as
     that with which Ganganelli was confronted, one should surely start
    with an unbiased outlook? Read Ganganelli's admission about his own
               outlook when he went to Poland to investigate:

         "With my weak faculties, I endeavoured to demonstrate the
    non-existence of the crime which was imputed to the Jewish Nation in
                                  Poland."

   The Cardinal set forth, not to find out whether Ritual Murder existed
   in Poland or not, but "to demonstrate the non-existence of the crime"!
         And yet, he had to admit the crimes of Trent and of Rinn!

   Thus, the book Ritual Murder Libel and the Jew, by the Jew Roth, which
   relies entirely upon Ganganelli for its material, is valueless except
    to the anti-Jewish worker to whom it is a God-send! Yet, what a good
   "press" this book had when it was published in 1935! The Morning Post
   greeted it (16th January, 1935) with headlines "Ritual Murder: Jewish
   people absolved: striking denunciation," and called the book "a final
        and incontrovertible refutation of the hideous Ritual Murder
    accusation." It is clear that the critic had either never taken the
   trouble to read the book or was deliberately misleading the public as
     to its contents; it is no "incontrovertible refutation"; it is an
   unscientific conglomeration of irrelevant matter, with a confession of
     bias and of the truth of the Ritual Murder accusation itself. The
      Catholic Times (15th February, 1935) says: "The learned Cardinal
   completely refutes the persecutors of the Jews and conclusively shows
       the flimsiness of the charges against them and their inherent
    absurdity." Ganganelli "completely refutes" nothing, and all that he
    "conclusively shows" is that Ritual Murders were a Jewish practice.

   The Birmingham Mail, 22nd September, 1936, is typical of the attitude
      of the "British" critics of the book: "It is symptomatic of the
   unhealthy state of the Continental mind that credence can be given in
   certain parts of Europe to the atrocious libel in which it is alleged
   that Christian blood is a necessary concomitant of the Jewish Passover
                               celebrations."

     Although the book was widely advertised when it came out, the Jews
      seem to have realised that it merely gives evidence in favour of
   Ritual Murder, for I found it difficult to get a copy in 1936, having
   ultimately to resort to a friend in the second-hand book trade to get
                                one for me.

     Thus Clement XIV, far from being a witness for the defence of the
       Jews, is an unwilling witness of the truth of the anti-Jewish
                                accusation.

   And what of the Popes who have supported the Ritual Murder accusation
                       by their acts? There are many.

   Sixtus IV approved in his Bull XII Kal. July, 1478, of the conduct of
   the Bishop who dealt with the Jews in the St. Simon case at Trent. The
     Jews endeavoured to enlist Sixtus IV on their side by pointing out
   that he had suspended the cult of St. Simon of Trent; this was done by
   Sixtus IV solely as a disciplinary measure, for Simon had not yet been
   beatified by papal authority, but was being made the centre of a local
                                   cult.

     Gregory XIII recognised Simon as a martyr and himself visited the
                                  shrine.

       Sixtus V ratified the cult of St. Simon in 1588, allowing the
      celebration of mass in his name. This is confirmed as a fact by
                               Benedict XIV.

    Benedict XIV himself in a Bull Beatus Andreas (1778, Venice, IV, p.
   101 seq.), beatified both Simon and Andreas, two boys murdered by the
    Jews "in hatred of the faith of Jesus Christ"; "the Jews," he said,
   "used every means to escape the just punishment that they had merited
              and to escape the just anger of the Christians."

    How significant of the methods of the advocates for the Jew, to note
    that in Strack's book, no mention whatever is made of Benedict XIV's
    Bull, although the actions of Sixtus IV are wilfully misinterpreted!

   Pius VII, 24th November, 1805, confirmed a decree of the Congregation
   of Rites of 31st August according to the Church at Saragossa the right
    to honour Dominiculus, killed by the Jews in hatred of the faith of
   Jesus Christ (see p. 17). He also authorised for the church at Toledo
   the same privilege in respect to St. Christopher, the boy crucified by
               the Jews near that place in 1490 (see p. 20).

    In 1867, the Congregation of Rites authorised the cult of Lorenzino,
               at Vicenza, Padua, ritually murdered by Jews.

    Gregory XVI, also, gave his support to the anti-Jewish accusers when
    he honoured Gougenot des Mousseaux by making him a Chevalier of the
     Order of St. Gregory the Great, in reward for writing his book, Le
    Juif, le Judaisme et la Judaisation des Peuples Chretiens, in which
   Gougenot des Mousseaux devoted a chapter charging the Jews with Ritual
             Murder of Christians for the sake of their blood.

       Pius IX refused to see the Jew Montefiore when the latter was
   returning from his visits to Egypt and to Constantinople, where he had
    bribed the Khedive and the Sultan so that the Jews at Damascus could
   escape the consequences of their guilt of the Ritual Murder of Father
        Thomas and his servant; this, in spite of a shameless Jewish
    persistence which has been fully described in Sir Moses Montefiore's
    biography. That showed what Pius IX thought about it, and he himself
                            was of Jewish blood.

    Pope Leo XIII bestowed distinctions on Edouard Drumont, author of La
        France luive, who accused the Jews of Ritual Murder therein.
           Authority: Jewish Encyclopedia (1905), Vol. X, p, 127.

   To sum up: The Popes who have appeared to disbelieve the existence of
   the Ritual Murder crime have, with the exception of Clement XIII, been
   those who lived in the least enlightened times; many later Popes have
     given very clear evidence that they hold the opposite opinion. The
         reader has the facts before him and can judge for himself.

    Remember that although other martyred boys, victims of Jewish Ritual
     Murder, have been regarded in many places as saints without papal
     authority, there is no record of papal disapproval of these cults
    except in the case of Sixtus IV, already mentioned, whose action was
      purely disciplinary and who himself specifically approved of the
    conduct of the Ritual Murder Case to which the matter referred. Such
     locally beatified "saints" or martyrs were St. William of Norwich
    (1144), St. Richard of Pontoise (1179), St. Hugh of Lincoln (1255),
     St. Werner of Oberwesel (1286) and St. Rudolph of Berne (1287). In
       every such case it is quite obvious that the cult had the full
       approval at least of the episcopal authorities over the places
                                 mentioned.

    Those who condemn the Blood Accusation as a wicked invention for the
    purpose of persecuting Jews and robbing them, must at the same time
     condemn wholesale some of the highest dignitaries of the Catholic
       Church, men against whom nothing is known beyond that they had
   excellent characters, like William Turbe, Bishop of Norwich to give an
                              English example.

   When the reader peruses the details of the cases that I have cited in
   this book, he will realise that Episcopal Courts have dealt with many
      of them; in other words, the Jews were condemned by the existing
                      religious authority of the day.

   Many of the earliest records we have of these Ritual Murders come from
    the pens of Catholic historians, such as the Bollandists, a body of
   Belgian Jesuits; a list of the principal works on the subject will be
                       found at the end of the book.

   Father Creagh, Redemptorist, publicly accused Jews of the practice of
       Ritual Murder, on 11th January, 1904, in a speech in Limerick.
          Authority: Jewish Encyclopedia (1904), Vol. VIII. p. 89.

     Perhaps I may best wind up this chapter by giving the names of the
    twelve members of juries who investigated, considered and condemned
    the Jews in the Ritual Murder case of La Guardia in Toledo, together
                         with their qualifications:
   (1) Maestre Fray Juan de Santispiritus, Professor of Hebrew, Salamanca
                                University;
        (2) Masetre Fray Diego de Bretonia, Professor of Scripture;
                    (3) Fray Antonio de la Pena, Prior;
          (4) Dr. Anton Rodriguez Carnejo, Professor of Canon Law;
              (5) Dt. Diego de Burgos, Professor of Civil Law;
             (6) Dr. Juan de Covillas, Professor of Canon Law;
                        (7) Fray Sebastian de Hueta;
    (8) Licentiate Alvaro de Sant Estevan, Queen Isabel's corregidor for
                                   Avila;
             (9) Ruy Garcia Manso, Bishop Talavera's provisor;
      (10) Fray Rodrigo Vela, head of the Franciscan Monastery, Avila;
                     (11) Dr. Tristan, Canon of Avila;
                        (12) Juna de Saint Estevan.

   On the findings of such men of standing we surely have every right to
                                   rely.

                 __________________________________________

7
CHAPTER XVI

                   THE ATTITUDE OF THE PROTESTANT CHURCH
    THIS may be summed up very briefly. The Protestant Church appears to
   have allied itself to Jewry, if one may judge from the political views
   expressed by our Archbishops and most of our bishops. These views are
   almost invariably similar to those expressed by Masons, and are almost
                             always pernicious.

        However, there was a time when Protestants were Protestants,
    unaffected by Masonry or by the powerful propaganda of which Jewish
                            money is the source.

    Martin Luther seems to have had an inkling of the true nature of the
    Jew when he said: "How the Jews love the Book of Esther, which is so
     suitable to their bloodthirsty, revengeful, murderous appetite and
    hopes. The sun has never shone on such a bloodthirsty and revengeful
   people, who fancy themselves to be the chosen people so that they can
      murder and strangle the heathen." (From the Erlangen edition of
                Luther's Table Talks, Vol. XXXII, pp. 120.)

   This seems plain speaking enough; but we find the Jew, C. Roth, Ritual
   Murder Libel and the Jew, citing Martin Luther as having condemned the
              "libel" of Ritual Murder "in unqualified terms."

   However, the Jewish Encyclopedia (1904), Vol. VIII, p. 213, definitely
          states that Luther charged the Jews with Ritual Murders.

   At Magdeburg in 1562, a Protestant History of the Christian Church was
   compiled, called the Magdeburg Centuries; it was compiled by a number
   of Lutheran theologians headed by M. Flacius, and was first published
      at Basle as the Historia Ecclesia Christi. This work records the
    ritual murders of Blois, Pontoise (Paris), Braisne, Fulda, Berne and
                                 Oberwesel.

    John Foxe in his Acts and Monuments of the Church (1563) says: "For
   every year commonly their [the Jews'] custom was to get some Christian
     man's child from his parents and on Good Friday to crucify him in
      despite of our religion." He describes the ritual crucifixion of
   British children by Jews at Norwich and Lincoln, before the expulsion.

     The learned and distinguished Puritan, William Prynne, a fearless
       fighter against evil, in his Short Demurrer to the Jewes long
   discontinued Remitter into England, 1656, gave details and references
   of the Ritual Murders at Norwich, Gloucester, and Bury St. Edmunds in
      England, and those of Blois, Braisne, Richard "of Paris," Fulda,
     Prague, Werner of Oberwesel, Rudolph of Berne, Simon of Trent and
    others. In Book I p 67, he says: "The Jews . . . have ofttimes . . .
   maliciously acted it [crucifixion] over and again in representation; .
     . . by crucifying sundry Christian children on Good Friday or near
    Easter, on a Crosse, in a most barbarous manner, in derision of our
    Saviour's death and passion." On p. 68 he quotes several authorities
   "that the Jews in Paris did every year steal some Christian child, or
    another brought up in the King's Court, and carrying him to a secret
     house or vault, did, on Good Friday or Easter-Day, in contempt and
   derision of Christ and Christian religion crucify him on a Crosse . .
    and that they have been frequently apprehended, persevering in this
    wickednesse; for which, upon Direction, they were usually murdered,
       stoned, burned, destroyed, hanged, by the furious multitude's
     violence, or executed, imprisoned, banished by Christian Kings and
     Magistrates, yet such was their malice to Christ, that they would
         still persevere therein, and act it over again upon every
                               opportunity."

   This book of Prynne's, which ran into two editions, is in the British
   Museum and Guildhall Libraries, but is unobtainable, though stated by
    booksellers to be of no great rarity or value; in the London Library
         there is no copy, but there is a Jewish refutation of it!

    Our nation has been so carefully schooled by the Jewish Money Power,
   which has been able to destroy or rarefy all sources of information on
    Ritual Murder, that the twentieth century Protestant Church has come
    to believe that the thing is a mere relic of medieval superstition.

                 __________________________________________


                                CHAPTER XVII

                                OTHER CASES
                             WORTHY OF CREDENCE
   THIS book is not intended to be an exhaustive history of Jewish Ritual
   Murder. In previous chapters I have described the cases which occurred
     before the Expulsion of the Jews from England, and also the cases
   which appear to me to be historical events admitting of no reasonable
     doubt as to their correct interpretation as Jewish Ritual Murders.

     In this chapter, I am listing a number of reported cases of Ritual
    Murder which, whilst being in my opinion worthy of credence, are not
         supported by the same detail or authority that constitute
                               authenticity.

   There are many discoveries of bodies of children, thought to have been
    ritually murdered by Jews, which are not mentioned in this list, and
   since the Sultan issued his firman in 1840 denying that Ritual Murder
   existed among the Jews, it is not surprising that many of these cases
                happened in territories under Turkish rule.

   The following reports of alleged Ritual Murder appear to me worthy of
                                  record:

      A.D. 419. Socrates (Hist. Eccles., Lib. VII, Chap. XVI) gives an
     account of a case at Inmestar, a town between Chalcis and Antioch.

     The Syrian Posidonius (135-51 B.C.), and the first century Greeks
      Apollonius Molon and Apion had previously reported that it was a
    Jewish custom to sacrifice annually a Greek boy, specially fattened
   for the occasion. The probable reason for the Ritual Murder accusation
     being made against Christians themselves in the early years of the
     Religion was that many of these Christians were of Jewish origin.

                1285. Munich. Illustrated in Bavaria Sancta.

     1270. Wissembourg. Monniot quotes on p. 148 of his Le Crime Rituel
    chez les Juifs a letter dated 19th November, 1913, from the cure of
      the town, in which the details of this case are quoted from the
    Alsatian historian Hertzog, who says the victim's tomb was for many
                            years in the church.

                               1283. Mayence.

                       1303. Weissensee (Thuringia).

     1305. Prague. The mob took the law into its own hands in a case of
              alleged crucifixion of a Christian at Passover.

   1331. Lieberlingen. Child's body found in well with wounds indicating
     that it had been sacrificed by Jews. The judges of the place had a
                           number of Jews burned.

                1345. Munich. Illustrated in Bavaria Sancta.

   1347. Cologne. The sacrificial knife in this case is preserved at the
                           Church of St. Sigbert.

                            1401. Diessenhofen.

   1407. Cracow. A Polish priest, Budek, charged the Jews with murdering
                              a boy at Easter.

                             1429. Ravensbourg.

                                1435. Palma.

   1470. Endingen, Baden. Jews burned for killing eight years previously
                         four Christians ritually.

   1529. Posing, Hungary. Child murdered for its blood. Many Jews burned
                    after confession by torture of some.

    1598. Podolia. Jews tried and condemned, after a rabbi had confessed
       to killing four-year-old Albert at Passover and bleeding him.

   1764. Orcuta, Hungary. Boy found dead, covered with wounds suggestive
                             of Ritual Murder.

     1791. Tasnad, Hungary. Jews condemned for murdering and bleeding a
   boy, on the evidence of the small son of one of them aged five years.
                     Accused received the royal pardon.

    1797. Galatz, Rumania. About this time "The Ritual Murder accusation
        became epidemic" (Jewish Encyclopedia, 1905, Vol. X, p. 513)

    1812. Corfu. Three Jews were condemned for the murder of a Christian
    child. Monniot (Le Crime Rituel chez les Juifs) says the archives of
                        the island report this case.

    1847. Mount Lebanon. Mentioned by Sir Richard Burton in The Jew, the
                     Gypsy and El Islam, 1898, p. 128.

    1935. Afghanistan. The White Russian paper Nasch Put of Harbin, 7th
    October, reports a case in Afghanistan where a Mahommedan child was
    robbed and riddled with stabs by Jews, the Court verdict being that
                     this was done for ritual purposes.

   I repeat that there are many other cases of Ritual Murder accusations
        not mentioned in this book; they are omitted because I have
                    insufficient detail concerning them.

                 __________________________________________


                                CHAPTER XVIII

                            TWO QUEER HAPPENINGS
   1839. A Remittance of Blood. During the Damascus Ritual Murder trial,
         the French Consul, Comte Ratti-Menton, by whose energy and
    determination the case was brought to light, received a letter from
   Comte de Suzannet, who wrote: "Nearly a year ago, a box arrived at the
    custom-house that a Jew came to claim on being asked to open it, he
   refused and offered first 100 piastres, then 200, then 300, then 1,000
   and at last 10,000 piastres (2,500 francs). The custom-house official
   persisted, and opened the box, discovering therein a bottle of blood.
    On asking the Jew for an explanation, the latter said that they had
   the custom of preserving the blood of their Grand Rabbis or important
            men. He was allowed to go, and left for Jerusalem."

    Comte Ratti-Menton then looked for the chief of the customhouse, but
    found he had died! His successor, who had been associated with him,
   only vaguely recollected the affair; but he confirmed that the box had
    contained several bottles of red liquid and that he thought the Jew
   who came to claim it was Aaron Stambouli of Damascus who had told him
                that the substance was an efficacious drug.

    The quick death of the chief custom-house officer is not surprising;
    witnesses of the crimes of the Jews are subject to a sudden demise.
    But the reader will perhaps be more impressed by the fact that this
     Aaron Stambouli was one of those subsequently found guilty of the
         Ritual Murder of Father Thomas at Damascus and condemned!

   1888. Breslau, Germany. On 21st July, Max Bernstein, aged 24, a pupil
   at the Talmudic College, met an eight-year-old Christian boy, Severin
    Hacke, bought him some sweetmeats and took him to his (Bernstein's)
   home. There, he stripped the boy of his clothing and with a knife made
   incisions in a certain part of the child's body, collecting the blood
   that came from the cuts on a piece of blotting-paper. When the boy was
    naturally frightened, the Jew told him there was no need for fear as
                       he only wanted a little blood.

    The boy went home and said nothing about the matter; but his father,
          seeing the scars, questioned him and the truth came out.

   Bernstein was arrested, and the prosecuting attorney after preventing
     a manoeuvre on the part of the defending counsel to have the case
    settled behind closed doors, maintained that this was a ritual case
        for the extraction of blood for the needs of a Jewish rite.

   The Court, however, refused to recognise this, but sentenced Bernstein
   to three months' imprisonment for having made incisions in the body of
                                 the child.

      The facts of this case are not disputed by anyone. The Jews, of
    course, spread the rumour that Bernstein was a religious maniac. Dr.
   Edmond Lesser of Breslau wrote a report to that effect which the Royal
       Scientific Committee for the Medical Profession endorsed. This
    Professor was a Jew, of course. But the reader should note that the
     report was issued in 1890, and that the Court itself never had any
                    such "expert" propaganda before it!

                 __________________________________________


                                CHAPTER XIX

                               WHAT OF THESE?
   DURING my trial I asked the only witness brought against me, Inspector
                Kitchener, "Are you a Detective-Inspector?"

                             Kitchener: "Yes."

    Leese: "Are there any cases of child-murder nowadays which cannot be
                                  solved?"

                             Kitchener: "Yes."

   Leese: "Has it ever occurred to you that some of them may be cases of
                          Ritual Murder by Jews?"

    The Judge: "If it had, he would have acted without evidence, and he
                             has no right to."

      In the belief that it is the business of the detective first to
    investigate and then to collect evidence, and then to act upon that
   evidence, I give here some facts on recent happenings which seem to me
      to open up the necessary field for investigation. They are, the
   Chorlton murder, the Lindbergh baby case, and a queer business in the
                                 Argentine.

                        1928. Chorlton, Manchester.
   A school-boy named O'Donnell was murdered on 1st or 2nd December, just
    before the Jewish feast of Chanucah, which commemorates the recovery
                       of Jerusalem by the Maccabees.

    The throat had been cut; the body was drained of blood; it was found
   on some waste ground and it was remarkable that there was no blood on
     the boy's clothes and hands. There was a pool of blood seven yards
      from the body. The wound was pronounced by experts as not being
     self-inflicted. A police witness said the body seemed to have been
   dragged along the grass; the Coroner suggested that someone had washed
                              the boy's hands.

    The police were completely baffled; it was certain that the work was
    not that of any maniac, but that the crime was premeditated, and was
    in fact, "the perfect crime." The verdict at the inquest was an open
                                    one.

   The affair was reported in The Times, 3rd, 4th and 6th December 1928,
   and in the early edition only of that of 23rd February, 1929; also in
         the Manchester Evening papers, 6th to 13th December, 1928.

     My only comment is that the murder could not have been done on the
   spot where the body was found, since the boy's clothes and hands were
    not stained with blood, indicating that the boy must have been naked
     when the throat was cut; therefore, some blood was probably poured
        onto the ground a few yards away to mislead the detectives.

   Ritual murders have several times been discovered by the fact that no
    blood has been found at the place where the corpse, bled white, has
                              been recovered.

                           2. The Lindbergh Case.
     Colonel Lindbergh's son was missed on 1st March, 1932. The Jewish
     Feast of Purim was on 22nd March. A child's body was found on 12th
   May, dead at least two months according to the experts, with the skull
                          fractured in two places.

   I cannot see that it has ever been proved that the body found was that
    of Colonel Lindbergh's son. It is true that the child's clothes were
          identified, but the 'body' was only a skeleton, and the
   'identification' by the nursemaid, Betty Gow, was made by means of the
     clothes and a matter of 'twisted toes.' (We must remember that the
     Tisza Eszlar case, see p. 30, was conjured with by the finding and
       false identification of a body dressed in the murdered girl's
                                 clothes.)

    Chas. Lindbergh, the father, America's air hero, appointed two Jews,
    Salvatore Spitale and Irving Bitz, as intermediaries between himself
    and a gang who pretended to know where his son was. The Purple Gang
   all-Jewish and headed by a Jew called Fleischer, was the object of the
                               police search.

     Ultimately, a German called Hauptmann was arrested, and the whole
    Jewish Press of America condemned him several score of times before
   his trial; actually he was ultimately found "guilty" on evidence which
   would not have hanged a dog, and met his death in the electric chair.

   The condemned man said that Reilly, his lawyer, had brought about his
      fate by sabotaging his defence; Reilly went insane and committed
                                  suicide.

      Hauptmann said that the receiver of the kidnap ransom was Isador
                       Fisch, a Jew; but he had died.

    The mob of people outside the death-house at Hauptmann's execution,
    shouted and joked and laughed in the same obscene fashion as did the
       female furies over the victims of the guillotine in the French
     Revolution. It was commonly considered in America that Hitler, not
                     Hauptmann, had been found guilty!

     It is possible that Hauptmann was paid to steal the child, without
    knowing that it was going to be anything but an ordinary kidnapping;
       and that the boy was intended for Ritual Slaughter for Purim.

        It was Chas. Lindbergh's father who had strongly opposed the
      establishment of the Federal Reserve Banking System sponsored by
    powerful Jewish interests and had also brought to public notice the
      wicked circular letter of the American Banking Association which
     ordered the member banks to deflate "to make a monetary stringency
    among your Patrons." This, it is thought, might determine the choice
      of the innocent child of Hon. Chas. Lindbergh's famous son for a
                                  victim.

                              1937. Argentine.
      On 28th February the Sunday Pictorial (London) reported that the
    two-year-old Eugenio Iraola had been kidnapped and killed for ritual
     purposes; the heading under which this appeared was "Millionaire's
    Baby as Human Sacrifice." Eight arrests were made, including that of
     Ganceda Silva. The next (and last) we hear of this case is in the
      London Evening News of 24th March, which simply reports: "While
     awaiting trial for kidnapping and murder, Jose Gancedo has hanged
      himself in his cell at Dolores, Buenos Ayres." That, of course,
     simplified matters! It will be noticed that the suggestive name of
                Silva had already been lost by the deceased!

                 __________________________________________


CHAPTER XX

                           IRRELEVANT MEDITATIONS
      I WRITE this chapter in an endeavour to try and account for the
     strange attitude adopted by Gentiles, often influential people, in
    rushing forward to shield the Jews, not only from the Ritual Murder
    charge, but from accusations concerning other activities hostile to
                           Western Civilization.

   Consider the Letter of Protest signed by archbishops, bishops, lords,
      justices, editors and professors, which was sent to The Times as
   stated on p. 8 against the "revival" of the Blood Accusation against a
    Jew at Kiev, 1911-13. Consider that the trial of the accused had not
   been made. Consider that none of the signatories would have thought it
    proper to intervene in the course of justice in a foreign country on
    behalf of anyone not a British subject. Yet they did it for the sake
                               of a Jew. Why?

     Here is another instance: Mr. J. Hall Richardson reports it on pp.
     216-217 of his book, From the City to Fleet Street (S. Paul & Co.,
    1927). He is writing of the murders of Jack the Ripper, and he says:

    "It would scarcely be believed that the Metropolitan Police held the
     clue to the identification of the murderer in their own hands and
    deliberately threw it away under the personal direction of the then
   Commissioner of Police, Sir Chas. Warren, who acted in the belief that
    an anti-Semitic riot might take place if a certain damning piece of
              writing were permitted to remain on the walls."

     Writing of the murderer: "Some freak of fancy had led him to write
    upon the wall this sentence: 'The Jewes are not the men to be blamed
                               for nothing.'

    "I have never learned that any photographic record was made of this
    inscription, and when the City Police came to hear of it, they were
    horrified that their colleagues in the Metropolitan Force had wiped
       away what might have been an important piece of circumstantial
         evidence as to the class to which the murderer belonged."

   That the Jack the Ripper murders were ritual I do not allege; but that
        they were Jewish seems to be established by the above-quoted
   paragraphs. Yet the clue was passed over and the murderer remained at
    large. In what other cause would such an important piece of evidence
     be ignored, and the whole community's interests sacrificed for the
    sake of a Jew? It is significant, that Sir Chas. Warren was not only
   District Grand Master in Masonry, 1891-5, but was actually the founder
               of the first research Lodge--Quatuor Coronati.

     Is it a sort of mass hypnotism worked upon people who have already
    either consciously or unconsciously accepted some sort of mental or
       spiritual subservience to Jewish influence? Is it cabbalistic?

   I cannot answer the question, but I find no other explanation for the
   wholesale denunciation which is made by so many authoritative Britons
     against those who have the courage to come forward and state their
    conviction that the Jews have been responsible for the Ritual Murder
   of Christians. I know I shall be subjected to a long-continued typhoon
    of abuse and libel against which I shall have no defence except the
   contents of this book. I can only ask those who feel compelled to take
          part in the campaign against what is inaccurately called
    "anti-semitism" to pause and ask themselves whether they are really
    mentally free, or whether they are almost unconsciously directed in
   their intended action by alien tenets absorbed perhaps in their youth
   under Old Testament teachings, in adult life by Masonic influence, or
                              by Jewish books.


8
BIBLIOGRAPHY
                            OF WORKS SUPPORTING
                            THE BLOOD ACCUSATION

    Acta Sanctorum. This is the work of the Bollandists, who were a band
    of Jesuits devoting themselves to historical record between 1643 and
     1883. The volumes in which they recorded various ritual murders by
         Jews are mainly those written in the seventeenth century.

      Histoire Universelle de l'Englise Catholique, by Abbe Rohrbacher
                          (Gaume et Freres, 1845).

                       Lives of the Saints, by Alban Butler.

     Dizionario Ecclesiastico, Vol. 64-66 (Semenario Peo-scire, Venice,
                                  1853-4).

    Annales Ecclesiastici, ab 1198, p. 568, by O. Raynaldus, 1753. These
               two deal with the case of St. Simon of Trent.

     Catholic Bulletin, August, 1916 (published at Dublin, M. H. Gill &
                                   Sons).

    Cahiers Romains, Catholic publication in Rome, 29th November, 1913.

           Acts and Monuments of the Church, by John Foxe, 1563.

   A Short Demurrer to the Jewes long discontinued Remitter into England,
                          by William Prynne, 1656.

     Les Juifs devant l'Eglise et l' Histoire, by Rev. Father Constant.

   Meine Antworten an die Rabbiner: Funf Briefe uber den Talmudismus und
    das Blut-Ritual der Juden, by August Rohling (1883), Canon of Prague
                                 Cathedral.

   La France Juive, by Edouard Drumont. Obtainable from M. Petit, 12 rue
                       Laugier, Paris 17. 70 francs.

      Le Juif, le Judaisme et la Judaisation des Peuples Chretiens, by
    Gougenot des Mousseaux, Chevalier, 1886. The whole of Chapter VI is
                         devoted to Ritual Murders.

       Le Mystere du Sang chez les Juifs de tous les Temps, by Henri
                         Desportes, 1889 (Savine).

    Le Crime Rituel chez les Juifs, by A. Monniot, 1914. Obtainable from
    M. Petit) 12 rue Laugier, Paris 17. 10 francs. An excellent general
    guide to the whole subject, with preface by Edouard Drumont. It was
              Drumont who exposed the Jewish Panama scandals.

              Der Ritual Mord bei den Juden, by Eugen Brandt.

       Ritual Morde, by Ottokar Stauf von der March (Hammer Verlag).

            Judische Moral und Blut Mysterium, by A. Fern, 1927.

    Der Ritual Mord, by G. Utikal. This book is recommended by the Reich
     Office for the Promotion of German Literature as "a truly national
                  representation of Jewish Ritual Murder."

          Das Blut in Judischen Schriftum, by Dr. Bischoff, 1929.

   Der Sturmer, Special Ritual Murder Issue, dated May, 1934, Nuremburg.
     The reader should not be prejudiced by the Jewish campaign of hate
      against the editor of Der Sturmer. The Ritual Murder issue is a
                        valuable historical record.

   The Jew, the Gypsy, and El Islam, by Sir Richard Burton, edited by W.
                       H. Wilkins (Hutchinson, 1898).

     Isabella of Spain, by ECU. T. Walsh, 1931 (Sheed & Ward), pp. 125,
                             439-468, and 628.

                 __________________________________________

    References to other authorities in particular cases of Ritual Murder
             are made in the text when describing these cases.
                 __________________________________________

   To the above list should be added a recent work intended to clear the
   Jews from the Blood Accusation, but which, at least in my own opinion,
   appears to support it: -- The Ritual Murder Libel and the Jews, by C.
                         Roth (Woburn Press, 1935)

                 __________________________________________


------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: What is really going on here.
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 22:25:57 -0500
From: kelsey 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

Good point my friend.  That verse would be Romans 9v13.

Charles wrote:

> There is a virse in the bible where it says God hated
> Easus can anyone remember that the virse is?
> My point is, no matter how liberal a "christian" can
> get do they thing God expects you to do something he
> would not ?
> ---
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
> http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications
>
>   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> JEWISH RITUAL MURDER - INTRODUCTION
>
> FROM: GOAL Reference Library - http://www.melvig.org/
>
>                         My Irrelevant Defence, Being
>                      Meditations Inside Gaol and Out on
>
>                             JEWISH RITUAL MURDER
>
>                               by ARNOLD LEESE
>
>                                 INTRODUCTION
>       ON 15th July, 1936, Mr. Oliver Locker-Lampson, M.P., a childhood
>    friend of the Rothschild family, asked in the House of Commons whether
>     the Attorney-General proposed to institute legal proceedings against
>    the authors or publishers of The Fascist, the issue of that paper for
>    July containing allegations against the Jews of the practice of ritual
>       murder. The Attorney-General replied that the matter was under a
>                                consideratlon.
>
>    As an ultimate result of this "consideration," I was sentenced to six
>      months' imprisonment among criminals on 21st September, 1936, the
>    Judge in the case being a 31st Degree Mason of the Scottish Rite. But
>     it is important to note that the conviction was obtained, not on the
>         ritual murder issue alone, which was not relied upon by the
>    Prosecution for the purpose of silencing me, but on the whole contents
>        of the July Fascist, and particularly on words used by me with
>                    reference to the disposal of the Jews.
>
>     Under the law of libel, the truth of my statements with reference to
>     Ritual Murder could not be used as an argument in my defence; it was
>    deemed sufficient under the law that the statements had been written,
>    and that they "rendered His Majesty's subjects of Jewish faith liable
>        to suspicion, affront and boycott" and so amounted to a Public
>                                  Mischief.
>
>    I came to Court very fully prepared, if the truth of my statements was
>     challenged, to justify the statements I had made in The Fascist, and
>     was even ready to demand that "Rex," the prosecutor, should produce
>     from the Public Records Office certain Close and Patent Rolls of the
>    State wherein Jewish Ritual Murder is recorded as an established fact
>    in this country! But I was forbidden by the Judge to use this line of
>     defence; it did not matter who else had charged the Jews with ritual
>     murder, or how often, or what historic facts proved it, or how many
>      convictions there had been under proper juridical authority; thus,
>       when I asked Inspector Kitchener, the only witness who appeared
>    against me, "When you brought this case, were you under the impression
>    that Ritual Murder was a thing of the past?" and he replied "Yes," the
>    Judge intervened with the remark "The truth of a libel is no defense,
>                           I must point out again."
>
>     Again, the Attorney-General, who was acting as Prosecuting Counsel,
>       interrupted another question of mine to the same witness, by the
>        remark: "In my submission, it is correctly laid down that the
>      defendant is in no case allowed to prove the trash of a seditious
>      libel as a justification for having published it." The Judge then
>      said, "That is the law as I understand it." He made it clear to me
>    that to proceed further in such a line of defence would be contempt of
>    court, as the "truth" of the "libel" was "irrelevant" to the issue of
>            the trial! Such may be the law, but it is not justice!
>
>      The last thing the Judaeo-Masonic Hidden Hand wanted was the truth
>                             about Ritual Murder!
>
>       Since I came out of prison on 6th February, 1937, I have, until
>    recently, been too busy to write on the subject of Ritual Murder; but
>     finding that there are, even among anti-Jewish workers, people who,
>      never having investigated the matter for themselves, still imagine
>    that Jewish Ritual Murder not only has not existed and does not exist,
>    but is a fiction invented by crazy anti-Jewish fanatics, and as such,
>    exploited by me, in my campaign against the Jews, it becomes necessary
>      for me to take steps to defend my own reputation as a man of good
>                 faith by compiling and publishing this book.
>
>    What the court procedure prevented me from doing in my own defence, I
>         do now in these pages, and I have no anxiety concerning the
>          conclusions at which my readers will arrive on the matter.
>
>    The subject of Ritual Murder has always been one that the Jewish Money
>     Power, which controls this country as well as most others, has taken
>     all possible steps to suppress. The reason is that Ritual Murder was
>    the dynamite which finally blew the Jew out of England in 1290, out of
>    Spain in 1492, and out of Germany in our time. The Jews know it; and I
>                                 know it too!
>
>      But there is no British law, and no 11th Commandment, which makes
>     Ritual Murder by Jews a forbidden topic in this country. Sir Richard
>    Burton's book about it was published shortly after his death near the
>    end of the last century; Strack's book, defending the Jews against the
>     accusation, was translated and published in England in 1909; whilst
>      the Jew, C. Roth, published his Ritual Murder Libel and the Jew in
>     1935. In France, as in Germany, there is free speech on the subject.
>
>       I challenge and defy the Judaeo-Masonic Power, which rules this
>     country, by publishing the present work in 1938, not only in my own
>    defence, but in the public interest to break the attack on Free Speech
>       that is rapidly developing wherever any criticism of the past or
>     present conduct of Jews is concerned an attack which relies for its
>       success upon the ridiculous charge that a breach of the peace is
>     likely if the truth about them is spoken! I do so in order that the
>     Jews shall not escape simply through the power of Money and Masonry
>      from bearing the burden of a charge which, in my opinion, has been
>    proved against some of them through the ages. My object is, and always
>     has been, in spite of what my Masonic Judge had to say about it, to
>     alter "a matter of State established," namely the status of Jews in
>        this country on an equality with Britons, a condition which is
>      imperilling our civilization, and to enlighten the public on their
>     true nature as beings possessing instincts utterly incompatible with
>      our own, so that they may be removed, legally and peacefully, to a
>    National Home in which they will be required to live together. In this
>     aim, I keep troth with the greatest of English kings, Edward I, who
>                 expelled the Jews from these shores in 1290.
>
>    The maintenance of Free Speech demands that Jewish Ritual Murder shall
>      be a subject for open discussion, like Suttee and Thuggee and the
>     sacrifices of Aztec Mexico, all of which were ritual murders which,
>     like the Jewish variety, would be practised to-day if the Aryan had
>     not interfered to prevent them. If the world thinks that I have not,
>     in this book, proved my case, let it laugh ! I can bear it ! But can
>    the Jews? The Jewish Chronicle (25th September, 1936) complained after
>     my trial was over that there had been no opportunity for the Jews to
>         refute the charge of Ritual Murder. Well, they have one now!
>
>                                ARNOLD LEESE.
>                               1st March, 1938.
>
>     In compiling this work I have received the most valuable assistance
>     from certain members of the Imperial Fascist League, who require no
>    thanks for that help. I should like to acknowledge the guidance I have
>      received in private letters from Sir. G., of Bristol, and from the
>    work, Le Crime Rituel chez les Juifs, by Mr. A. Monniot; also from the
>           articles contained in Mr. A. Arcand's now defunct paper.
>
>                  __________________________________________
>
>                        Continue on to Next Chapter or
>                        Go Back to Table of Contents?
>                     Return to the GOAL Reference Library
>
> 2
>  CHAPTER IV
>
>                              MOTIVE & NATURE OF
>                             JEWISH RITUAL MURDER
>    THE motive of Ritual Murder of Christians by Jews is almost certainly
>     hate. It is in fact the same motive that Disraeli admitted to be the
>    cause of revolutionary activities against Gentile governments; to use
>             his words (from Life of Lord George Bentinck, 1852):
>
>       "The people of God co-operate with atheists -- the most skilful
>    accumulators of property ally themselves with Communists; the peculiar
>       and chosen Race touch the hand of all the scum and low castes of
>     Europe -- and all this because they wish to destroy that ungrateful
>     Christendom which owes to them even its name, and whose tyranny they
>                            can no longer endure."
>
>    Hatred of Christianity is a tradition among the Jews: just as hate of
>      England is a sort of perverted religion among an inferior class of
>       Irishmen. It must be remembered that the Hymn of Hate which was
>    debited to the Germans during the war was actually written by the Jew
>                                  Lissauer.
>
>    One of the principal Jewish feast-days is that of Purim. This feast is
>    an orgy of hate against Haman, the story of whom is found in the Book
>     of Esther of the Old Testament. The story, which is probably a myth,
>    is that Xerxes, King of Persia, became enamoured of a Jewess, Esther,
>     and made her Queen in place of his rightful wife. Haman, the King's
>    sister, complained to him of the conduct of the Jews who, he said did
>     not keep the laws, and obtained from the King an order to slay them.
>    Esther pleaded with the King and prevailed upon him to summon Haman to
>      a banquet. There, Queen Esther further prevailed upon the King to
>    spare the Jews and hang Haman on a gallows prepared for the execution
>     of her guardian. Instead of the Jews being destroyed, their enemies
>        were slaughtered, including Haman's ten sons, who were hanged.
>
>         This feast is often celebrated by an exhibition of gluttony,
>    intoxication, and curses on the memory of Haman; and even to this day
>      in London, the Jewish bakers make cakes in the shape of human ears
>      which are eaten by the Jews on this day, and are called " Haman's
>    Ears," revealing once again the inherent hate and barbarism of the Jew
>                                in our midst.
>
>     The two principal feast-days associated with Ritual Murder have been
>    (1) Purim, and (2) Passover, the latter at Easter and the former about
>     one month before it. When a Ritual Murder occurred at Purim, it was
>    usually that of an adult Christian who was murdered for his blood; it
>    is said that the blood was dried and the powder mixed into triangular
>       cakes for eating; it is possible that the dried blood of a Purim
>          murder might sometimes be used for the following Passover.
>
>     When a Ritual Murder was done at Passover, it was usually that of a
>     child under seven years old, as perfect a specimen as possible, who
>      was not only bled white, but crucified, sometimes circumcised and
>    crowned with thorns, tortured, beaten, stabbed, and sometimes finished
>    off by wounding in the side in imitation of the murder of Christ. The
>     blood taken from the child was mixed either in the powdered state or
>                      otherwise into the Passover bread.
>
>        Another festival at which it is thought that Ritual Murder has
>      sometimes been indulged in is Chanucah, which occurs in December,
>     commemorating the recovery of Jerusalem under the Maccabees in B.C.
>                                     165.
>
>    Examples of Purim murders are those of Damascus, Rhodes, Xanten Polna,
>                           Gladbeck and Paderborn.
>
>     Although hate is the principal motive, superstitious traditions are
>    also involved, one being the association of blood-sacrifices with the
>    idea of atonement; some Jews have confessed that Jewry cannot be saved
>       or return to Zion unless every year the blood of a Christian is
>               obtained for the purpose of ritual consumption.
>
>       Political murders, such as the Jewish murder of the Tsar and his
>       family and of other Russians, have sometimes been accompanied by
>     features suggestive of ritual, but I do not wish to complicate this
>      book by guessing at the meaning of signs left symbolically by the
>                                  murderers.
>
>                  __________________________________________
>
>
>                                 CHAPTER V
>
>                             A RELIC OF THE DAYS
>                                OF WITCHCRAFT
>                               AND BLACK MAGIC
>    ON 6th May, 1912, The Times published a letter, signed by many men of
>      authority, protesting against what they called the revival of "the
>    hideous charge of Ritual Murder" which was being brought against a Jew
>    at Kiev. "The Blood Accusation," they said, "is a relic of the days of
>                         Witchcraft and Black Magic."
>
>     Unfortunately for the signatories of this letter, who numbered among
>      them the Archbishops of Canterbury, York and Armagh, the Cardinal
>      Archbishop of Westminster, Bishops galore, Dukes, Earls, Justices,
>    Masters of Colleges and Editors, of that period, the Blood Accusation
>      has nothing medieval about it at all; it was more rife in the 19th
>                    century than it was in medieval times!
>
>      Unfortunately also, Black Magic is in the same category. It is not
>      medieval either; there never was a wider cult of Black Magic than
>                    there is in the year of Our Lord 1938!
>
>     How extraordinary it is that influential men can be induced to sign
>     such a statement as I have quoted! And how strange it is that, where
>     Jewish interests are at stake, these same influential Christian men
>    will see nothing improper in attempting to prejudice the course of the
>     criminal trial of the Jew Beiliss at Kiev, a course which they would
>                       never pursue in any other cause!
>
>    Let us confound the signatories of The Times letter out of the mouths
>       of Jews themselves. The Jewish Encyclopedia, 1903, Vol. III, pp.
>     266-7, gives a list of Accusations of Ritual Murder made against the
>      Jews through the centuries; 122 cases are listed in chronological
>      order, and no less than 39 of them were made in the 19th century!
>     There were far more than double the number of Blood Accusations made
>     in the 19th century than in any previous century, according to this
>                          authoritative Jewish list.
>
>        Let us examine the list of Ritual Murder Accusations made by a
>      converted Jew, Cesare Algranati, in 1913, and published in Cahiers
>    Romains; here are listed 101 accusations, of which 28 were made in the
>     19th century and only 73 for all the eight preceding centuries! Even
>    the Jew Roth gives the argument away, for he says (p. 16 of his Ritual
>    Murder Libel and the Jew, 1935), "The nineteenth century proved little
>                less credulous than those which preceded it."
>
>       "Anti-semitic" authors' lists of Blood Accusations agree in this
>    respect with the lists made by Jews; Der Sturmer, the paper of Julius
>     Streicher, in a special Ritual Murder issue published in 1934, shows
>    that in the 19th century 32 charges of ritual murder were made, which
>    is ten more than in any other century in European history recorded by
>                                     it.
>
>     The fact that the charges increase in number as the age becomes more
>     and more enlightened is particularly significant, because the Jewish
>    Money Power and its silencing activities are more developed than ever
>     before and might have been expected to reduce the number of charges.
>
>    Sufficient has now been said to expose the absurdity of any attempt to
>             consign the Blood Accusation to any medieval limbo.
>
>    It lives today; I may say with the great Sir Richard Burton (The Jew,
>     the Gypsy and El Islam, 1898, P. 129): "At any rate, sufficient has
>     been advanced in these pages to open the eyes of the student and the
>             ethnographer; it will stand on record until Elijah."
>
>                  __________________________________________
>
>                                 CHAPTER VI
>
>                             COULDN'T HAPPEN NOW?
>    THIS argument, "It couldn't happen now," seems quite good enough for a
>       lot of people when it is applied to the matter of Jewish Ritual
>      Murder. It is, perhaps, comforting to the democratic mind to think
>        that "Progress" ensures that such an evil practice, even if it
>       occurred in unenlightened days, could not have survived to-day.
>
>     I wish I could see any comfort in this argument, but I don't. There
>                         are no facts to support it.
>
>      That the Aryan peoples have progressed I do-not deny; but I do not
>     think there is any evidence to show any like progress among some of
>                               the other races.
>
>           Compare the following two happenings, noting the dates:
>
>    A.D. 117. From the account of Dio (Cassius in 78th Book of his history
>                                 Chapter 32:
>
>    "Then the Jews in Cyrene (on the modern Tripoli coast of North Africa)
>    choosing as their leader one Andreas, slew the Romans and Greeks, and
>      devoured their bodies, drank the blood, clothed themselves in the
>      flayed skins, and sawed many in half from the head downwards; some
>    they threw to wild beasts and others were compelled to fight in single
>      combat, so that in all 220,000 were killed. In Egypt they did many
>     similar things, also its Cyprus, led by one of them named Artemion;
>                    and there another 40,000 were slain."
>
>    A.D. 1936. From Daily Mail, 17th September (describing the horrors of
>                        the Red Revolution in Spain):
>
>       "Baena (Cordoba Province): Ninety-one assassinations, mostly by
>    shooting, hatchet blows, or strangling. Others were burned alive. Two
>     nuns who had been dragged from the convent of the Mother of God, had
>    their religious medals with the figure of the Virgin, nailed into the
>                            sockets of their eyes.
>
>       "La Campana (Seville): Reds, led by a woman, Concepcion Velarde
>    Caraballo, who either killed or was responsible for killing 11 persons
>     in prison. The prisoners were fired on until they fell, covered with
>     petrol, and set on fire. Some were still writhing in the flames when
>                            the city was entered.
>
>     "Lore del Rio (Seville): 138 assassinated. They were dragged to the
>     cemetery, lined up, and shot in the legs, being buried alive as they
>    fell in a trench. When the town was entered hands could still be seen
>                         writhing above the ground."
>
>      I cannot see much difference in outlook between the Jewish devils
>        responsible for both these massacres, even though there are 15
>                           centuries between them!
>
>    In view of that, why boggle at the idea of Jewish Ritual Murder still
>                                  surviving?
>
>    Why make such a fuss when Jews are charged with the practice of Ritual
>    Murder? Other Asiatics are known to have practised it until 1850, and,
>      if left to themselves, would doubtless have maintained the custom.
>
>    In India, from 10,000 to 50,000 murders were perpetrated every year by
>       a religious body known as the Thugs. They were mostly people of
>    Mahommedan extraction, but a number of Hindus were also involved. They
>     used to worship Kali, the Hindu goddess of destruction. Their custom
>    was to club together, generally as travellers, when they would slowly
>     gain the confidence of some innocent person, and at a given signal,
>     would strangle him in a prescribed manner, which they regarded as a
>       religious duty; then they would rob him if he had anything to be
>    robbed of, and bury the body with such skill as to leave no trace. The
>     Thugs actually received the protection of some of the native princes
>     and chiefs who were thoroughly frightened of their power as a secret
>    religious sect. How this reminds us of the attitude of the influential
>      men in this country who adopt the same view of Masonry and Jewry!
>
>     Then the British Government decided the thing must stop. After many
>     years of investigation, Sir W. H. Sleeman stamped out the Thug sect,
>    and no Thuggee murders are on record since 1850. He found that Thuggee
>      was hereditary among male members of a family, and he achieved his
>     object by confining in segregation for life all male members of Thug
>                                  families.
>
>       Now my point is that Thuggee happened; and happened in the 19th
>      century until the British put an end to it under Sleeman. It was a
>     long time before the British administration learned of the existence
>    of Thuggee, so carefully was it concealed; another analogy with Jewish
>                                Ritual Murder!
>
>                      "It couldn't happen now." Why not?
>
>      And on 13th September, 1937, a telegram was sent to The Times from
>    Delhi reporting the sacrifice of a 17-year-old youth to propitiate the
>     rain-god, in Sirmoor State. The youth was led through the village of
>        Gunpur by a crowd of people headed by a priest and the village
>       headman, and beheaded on a special altar to the accompaniment of
>    devotional songs. The head was found by the police at the foot of the
>                         deity in the village temple.
>
>     As Aryan rule over India relaxes, Thuggee and other human sacrifices
>                               will re-appear.
>
>                  "It couldn't happen now." Why not, again?
>
>     Here is an extract from Magick by the "Master Therion", published in
>        1929 by the Lecram Press, 26 Rue d'Hautpool, Paris, pp. 94-5:
>
>      ". . . it was the theory of the ancient magicians that any living
>     being is a storehouse of energy varying in quantity according to the
>    size and health of the animal, and in quality according to its mental
>        and moral character. At the death of the animal this energy is
>     liberated suddenly. The animal should therefore be killed within the
>      Circle, or Triangle, as the case may be, so that its energy cannot
>      escape.... For the highest spiritual working one must accordingly
>      choose that victim which contains the greatest and purest force. A
>      male child of perfect innocence and high intelligence is the most
>                          satisfactory and suitable
>
>     A footnote on p. 95 says "(4) It appears from the Magical Records of
>    Frater Perdurabo that he made this particular sacrifice on an average
>         about 150 times every year between 1912 e.v. and 1928 e.v."
>
>      This footnote refers to the last sentence in the paragraph quoted
>                                    above.
>
>           "It couldn't happen now." Why not, in the Devil's name?
>
>       Sir Richard Burton show us that the disappearance of children at
>        Passover was talked of in Rome and in the other towns of Italy
>    throughout the early part of the 19th century when efficient policing
>    was unknown, as also throughout the century at Smyrna and other places
>                         in the Levant and in Turkey.
>
>      It couldn't happen now? But the Jewish method of cattle slaughter
>        happens now and is specially exempted from the objects of the
>     Slaughter of Animals Act, 1933, which Act orders that all cattle for
>     Gentile food must be stunned with a mechanically-operated instrument
>    before the throat is cut. The Jewish method is cutting the throat from
>     ear to ear without any previous stunning. It has been condemned by a
>      Government Commission held in 1904 as failing in rapidity, freedom
>     from unnecessary pain and instantaneous loss of sensibility. Yet it
>    "happens now" and is protected in this our England, by an English Law,
>      and remains unattacked by the Royal Society for the Prevention of
>                             Cruelty to Animals.
>
>                         Why couldn't it happen now?
>
>      To this day, we learn from Jewish sources (B'nai B'rith Messenger,
>    California, 3rd April, 1936) that the Samaritans, an unorthodox Jewish
>        sect who keep Passover by solar computation, indulge in bloody
>      sacrifices of animals on that feast-day; an account is given of a
>    visit to the scene of sacrifice on Mount Gerizim in the 20th century,
>                          and these word, are used:
>
>     "I have heard the wild, primitive scream of triumph as the knife is
>              withdrawn from the neck of the lamb of sacrifice."
>
>    Here is a paragraph from a periodical which shall be unnamed, of 1936,
>            showing that the urge to the "Mysteries" is not dead:
>
>      "The sophisticated Pharisee of the 20th century unceasingly gives
>     thanks that he has outgrown the fables and rituals of the Ancients.
>      The worldly-wise man loves the evident and is exasperated by that
>         which is not evident. Plutocrat and proletarian alike regard
>    themselves as victimised by that person whose words or actions they do
>     not understand. We love the obvious because it flatters us, and hate
>     the mysterious because it damns our intelligence with faint praise.
>    Riddles are irksome. The modern cry is for facts. Yet, with facts for
>    his fetish, the modernist is more foolish than his forebears. Decrying
>     superstition, he is most superstitious; rejecting fancies, he is the
>     fanciful product of a fictitious age. The modern world is bored with
>     its own importance; life itself has become a botheration. Suffering
>    from chronic ennui, how can a world ever become interested in anything
>    but itself? Smothered in their self-complacency, these all-sufficient
>         ones ask for facts. But what facts are there that fools can
>      understand? How can the helpless superficial grasp the hopelessly
>           profound, for are not realities reserved for the wise?"
>
>    Alongside this clotted nonsense was a picture of a ritual murder, with
>     the victim crucified, below it, a portrait of the author, an obvious
>                                     Jew.
>
>        I take it that- "it would happen now" if this Jew had his way!
>
>                  __________________________________________
> 3
>
>                                 CHAPTER VII
>
>         JEWISH RITUAL MURDER IN ENGLAND BEFORE THE EXPULSION OF 1290
>     THE first known case happened in 1144; after that, cases cropped up
>       from time to time until the Jews were expelled from the realm by
>     Edward I. The most famous of these cases was that of Little St. Hugh
>    of Lincoln in 1255. I record these cases in chronological order; and I
>       do not deny the possibility of some of them in which details are
>      lacking, being "trumped-up" ones, where death may have been due to
>     causes other than ritual murder and the Jews blamed for it; but the
>    case of St. Hugh, particularly, was juridically decided, and the Close
>       and Patent Rolls of the Realm record definitely cases at London,
>    Winchester and Oxford. There seems no reason to doubt that many cases
>        of ritual murder have been unsuspected and even undiscovered.
>
>       1144- Norwich. A twelve-year-old boy was crucified and his side
>    pierced at the Jewish Passover. His body was found in a sack hidden in
>    a tree. A converted Jew, called Theobald of Cambridge, confessed that
>      the Jews took blood every year from a Christian child because they
>    thought that only by so doing could they ever obtain their freedom and
>      return to Palestine, and that it was their custom to draw lots to
>     decide whence the blood was to be supplied; Theobald said that last
>    year the lot fell to Narbonne but in this year to Norwich. The boy was
>     locally beatified and has ever since been known as St. William. The
>        Sheriff, probably bribed, refused to bring the Jews to trial.
>
>       In J. C. Cox's Norfolk Churches, Vol. II, p. 47, as also in the
>    Victoria Country History of Norfolk, 1906, Vol. II, is an illustration
>       of an old painted rood-screen depicting the Ritual Murder of St.
>     William, the screen itself is in Loddon Church, Norfolk, unless the
>    Power of Jewish Money has had it removed. No one denies this case as a
>       historical event, but the Jews of course say it was not a Ritual
>     Murder. The Jew, C. Roth, in his The Ritual Murder Libel and the Jew
>       (1935) says: "Modern enquirers, after careful examination of the
>     facts, have concluded that the child probably lost consciousness in
>      consequence of a cataleptic fit, and was buried prematurely by his
>     relatives." How these modern enquiries arrived at a conclusion like
>        that after all these years, Mr. Roth does not say; nor is it a
>    compliment to the Church to suggest that its ministers would allow the
>    boy's death to be celebrated as a martyrdom of a saint without having
>    satisfied themselves that wounds on the body confirmed the crucifixion
>     and the piercing of the side. And why the relatives should bury the
>     boy in a sack and then dig it up and hang it in a tree would puzzle
>                            even a Jew to explain.
>
>       John Foxe's Arts and Monuments of the Church records this ritual
>       murder, as did the Bollandists and other historians. The Prior,
>       William Turbe, who afterwards became Bishop of Norwich, was the
>      leading light in insisting that the crime was one of Jewish Ritual
>    Murder; in the Dictionary of National Biography (edited by a Jew!) it
>      is made clear that his career, quite apart from this Ritual Murder
>       case, is that of a man of great strength of character and moral
>                                   courage.
>
>     1160- Gloucester. The body of a child named Harold was found in the
>     river with the usual wounds of crucifixion. Sometimes wrongly dated
>       1168. Recorded in Monumenta Germania Historica, Vol. VI (Erfurt
>      Annals); Polychronicon, R. Higdon; Chronicles, R. Grafton, p. 46.
>
>       1181- Bury St. Edmunds. A child called Robert was sacrificed at
>     Passover. The child was buried in the church and its presence there
>      was supposed to cause 'miracles.' Authority: Rohrbacher, from the
>                     Chronicle of Gervase of Canterbury.
>
>    1192- Winchester. A boy crucified. Mentioned in Jewish Encyclopedia as
>                    being a false charge. Details lacking.
>
>        1232- Winchester. Boy crucified. Details lacking. Mentioned in
>         Hyamson's History of the Jews in England; also in Annals of
>    Winchester; and conclusively in the Close Roll 16, Henry III, membrane
>                                8, 26.6. 1232.
>
>    1235- Norwich. In this case, the Jews stole a child and hid him with a
>    view to crucifying him. Haydn's Dictionary of Dates of date 1847, says
>      of this case, "They (the Jews) circumcise and attempt to crucify a
>      child at Norwich; the offenders are condemned in a fine of 20,000
>    marks." Further authority Huillard Breolles Grande Chronique, III, 86.
>                     Also Close Roll, 19 Henry III, m 23.
>
>      1244- London. A child's body found unburied in the cemetery of St.
>      Benedict, with ritual cuts. Buried with great pomp in St. Paul's.
>      Authority: Social England, Vol. I, p. 407, edited by H. D. Traill.
>
>        1255- Lincoln. A boy called Hugh was kidnapped by the Jews and
>      crucified and tortured in hatred of Jesus Christ. The boy's mother
>      found the body in a well on the premises of a Jew called Joppin or
>    Copinus. This Jew, promised by the judge his life if he confessed, did
>       so, and 91 Jews were arrested; eventually 18 were hanged for the
>        crime. King Henry III himself personally ordered the juridical
>    investigation of the case five weeks after the discovery of the body,
>      and refused to allow mercy to be shown to the Jew Copinus, who was
>                                  executed.
>
>    Hugh was locally beatified, and his tomb may still be seen in Lincoln
>    Cathedral, but the Jewish Money Power has evidently been at work, for
>    between 1910 and 1930, a notice was fixed above the shrine as follows:
>
>      "The body of Hugh was given burial in the Cathedral and treated as
>      that of a martyr. When the Minster was repaved, the skeleton of a
>     small child was found beneath the present tombstone. There are many
>      incidents in the story which tend to throw doubt upon it, and the
>    existence of similar stories in England and elsewhere points to their
>    origin in the fanatical hatred of the Jews of the Middle Ages and the
>    common superstition, now wholly discredited, that ritual murder was a
>      factor of Jewish Paschal Rites. Attempts were made as early as the
>     13th century by the Church to protect the Jews against the hatred of
>            the populace and against this particular accusation."
>
>      At a recent visit to Lincoln of the Jewish Historical Society, in
>     1934, the Mayor, Mr. G. Deer, said to them: "That he (St. Hugh) was
>    done to death by Jews for ritual purposes cannot be other than a libel
>    based upon the prejudices and ignorance of an unenlightened age." The
>     Chancellor on the same occasion said: "It was quite obviously one of
>      the very many cases of slander spread about the Jews from time to
>            time. No doubt, the child died or fell down the well."
>
>    These people, Jews and Gentiles, bring no evidence whatever for their
>          statements; it couldn't have happened, they say. Why not?
>
>      Was Henry III, weak in character as we know him to have been, ever
>      charged with being an immoral man? Did the judges not examine the
>     body, which was only four weeks dead? Is Haydn's Dictionary of Dates
>     (1847 edition) medieval and superstitious when it said of this case
>    "They (the Jews) crucify a child at Lincoln, for which 18 are hanged"?
>     There are no 'ifs' and 'buts' here! Or does Copinus's confession not
>     tally with that of Theobald, quoted above in the first Norwich case?
>      Copinus said, "For the death of this child, nearly all the Jews in
>     England had come together and every town had sent deputies to assist
>                              in the sacrifice."
>
>       No one questions the historical facts in this case; but Jews and
>        Judaised Gentiles unite in denying the fact of Ritual Murder.
>
>    Strack, in his The Jew and Human Sacrifice, written in defence of the
>     Jews against the Blood Accusation, omits all mention of this famous
>     case, which is the subject of the Prioress's Tale (Canterbury Tales)
>      of Chaucer and is referred to in Marlowe's Jew of Malta. Hyamson's
>      History of the Jews in England devotes the whole of Chapter IX to
>      "Little St. Hugh of Lincoln," showing the importance of the Ritual
>                    Murder issue in the Jewish mind today.
>
>    The following Close Rolls of the Realm refer to the case of St. Hugh:
>    Henry III, 39, m. 2,7.10 1255; 39, m. 2,14.10.1255; 40, m. 20, 24.ii..
>     1255; 40,m.13,13.3.1256; 42, m. 6; 19.6.1258. And the Patent Rolls,
>     Henry III, 40,m.20,26.11.1255; 40,m.19,9.12.1255; 40,27.3.1256; and
>                              40,m.5, 20.8.1256.
>
>       1257. London. A child sacrificed. Authority: Cluverius. Epitome
>                      Historia, p. 541. Details lacking.
>
>     1276. London. Boy crucified. Authority: The Close Roll of the Realm,
>                     4, Edward I, membrane 14, 3.3.1276.
>
>      1279. Northampton. A child crucified. Haydn's Dictionary of Dates,
>         1847, says of this case: "They (the Jews) crucify a child at
>       Northampton for which 50 are drawn at horses' tails and hanged."
>    Further authorities: Reiley, Memorials of London, p. I5; H. Desportes,
>                             Le Mystere du Sang.
>
>     1290. Oxford. The Patent Roll 18 Edward I, mem. 21, 21st June, 1290,
>      contains an order for the gaol delivery of a Jew, Isaac de Pulet,
>            detained for the murder of a Christian boy at Oxford.
>
>    Only one month after this, King Edward issued his decree expelling the
>    Jews from the Kingdom. There is, then, every reason to believe that it
>       was the Oxford murder which proved the last straw in toleration.
>
>     The reader will see (p. 20) that it was a similar ritual case which
>    was one of the main stimulants to the King and Queen of Spain to expel
>                  professing Jews from that country in 1492.
>
>     The Jews, in attempting to escape responsibility for these deaths by
>      Ritual Murder, do not hesitate to impugn the probity of two of the
>    Kings of England, against whose moral character no one else has dared
>      to cast a slur. Here are some examples. From the Jewish Chronicle
>      Supplement, April, 1936, p. 8 (speaking of the Lincoln case in the
>                             reign of Henry III):
>
>    "Henceforth and especially under the zealously Christian Edward I, the
>     Crown and its officers became almost a worse peril to the Jews than
>        mobs intent on loot and led on by fanatic priests and knightly
>    spendthrifts who had borrowed Jewish money. When 18th century writers
>    of history began to examine the old records in a new sceptical temper,
>       some may be found venturing on such unkind surmises as that the
>    alleged crucifictions of Christian children only seemed to happen when
>    kings were short of money." The foul accusation against men of upright
>       character is repeated by the Jew Hyamson (History of the Jews in
>     England, 1928 edition, p. 21), writes: "it has also been pointed out
>     that the Blood Accusation was as a rule made at a time at which the
>                     Royal Treasury needed replenishing."
>
>       To deny that the cases of St. William of Norwich and St. Hugh of
>    Lincoln were Jewish Ritual Murders is to accuse certain English Kings,
>     certain English Clergy, and certain English administrators, known to
>     be men of good morals, of murdering and torturing Jews to get their
>      money, after accusing them of horrible crimes. In the case of St.
>    Hugh, the sentence was juridical; in the case of St. William, the mob
>    took the matter into their own hands because the Sheriff would take no
>                               action himself.
>
>                 Whom do you believe the Jews or the English?
>
>    "It is difficult to refuse all credit to stories so circumstantial and
>      so frequent." So says Social England concerning Ritual Murders in
>            England Vol. I, p. 407, I893, edited by H. D. Traill.
>
>    A significant fact is that Haydn's Dictionary of Dates, at least up to
>     1847, quoted the Ritual Murders in Norman and Plantagenet England as
>      undisputed facts. In later editions in the sixties, all mention of
>     them is extirpated! We may take it that the Jewish Money Power began
>      to dictate to the Press in England somewhere in the fifties of the
>                                last century.
>
>                  __________________________________________
>
>
>                                 CHAPTER VIII
>
>             WELL AUTHENTICATED CASES IN EARLY AND MEDIEVAL TIMES
>                                 1171 TO 1510
>      IN this, and subsequent chapters, I place descriptions of cases in
>       chronological order, in which there seems to me to be no reason
>       whatever to dispute the historical accuracy of the facts given.
>
>    In this Chapter, I record such cases between 1171 and 1510 inclusive;
>    and I would point out to the reader the great importance of the murder
>    of St. Simon of Trent in 1475 and of the Toledo case in 1490; in fact,
>        should the reader be one of those who approach the subject as
>      unbelievers, I recommend that he should read about these two cases
>                         first, and the others after.
>
>        The following abbreviations are used in this Chapter among the
>                          references to authorities:
>
>       Magd. Cent. for Magdeburg Centuries, a Protestant History of the
>          Christian Church compiled at Magdeburg, sixteenth century.
>
>      Chron. Hirsaug. for Chronicon Hirsaugiense, a history produced by
>                          Abbot J. Trithemius, 1514.
>
>     Cosm. Munst. for Sebastian Munster's Cosmographia Universalis, 1544.
>
>      Spec. Viva. for Vincent of Beauvais's Speculum Historiale, of 13th
>                                   century.
>
>    1171 Blois, France. At Passover, a Christian child was crucified, his
>    body drained of blood and thrown into the river. A number of Jews were
>       executed. Authority: Monumenta Germania Historica, VI, 520; Magd
>                       Cent., 12, C. 14 and 13, C. 14.
>
>      1179. Pontoise. The authorities for this case are the Bollandists
>    (Acta, Vol. III, March, 591); Madg. Cent., 23, c. 14; Spec. Vinc, 129,
>    C. 25; and Cosm. Munst., 23, C. 14. A boy named Richard was tortured,
>    crucified and bled white. Philip Augustus's chaplains and historians,
>    Rigord and Guillaume l'Armoricain, attested this case. The body of the
>    boy was taken to the Church of the Holy Innocents in Paris and he was
>                          canonised as St. Richard.
>
>      Under date 1080, Haydn's Dictionary of Dates, 1847, p. 282, says:
>       "Thinking to invoke the divine mercy, at a solemnisation of the
>        Passover, they (the Jews) sacrifice a youth, the son of a rich
>     tradesman at Paris, for which all the criminals are executed and all
>                            Jews banished France."
>
>     1192. Braisne. Philip Augustus attended to this case personally, and
>        had the criminals burnt. It was a case of the crucifixion of a
>    Christian sold to the Jews by Agnes, Countess of Dreux, who considered
>      him guilty of homicide and theft. Authority: Histoire des Ducs et
>       Comtes de Champagne, IV, 1st part, p. 72, Paris, 1865) by A. de
>    Jubainville; Sped. Vinc., 129, c. 25; Gaguin. L. 6, De Francis; Magd.
>                         Cenf., 12, C. 14, col. 1670.
>
>      1235. Fulda, Hesse-Nassau. Five children murdered; Jews confessed
>      under torture, but said the blood was wanted for healing purposes.
>    Frederick II exonerated the Jews from suspicion, but the Crusaders had
>      already dealt with a number by putting them to death. Frederick II
>     called together a number of converted Jews, who denied the existence
>     of Jewish ritual murder. But Frederick's bias is evident in his own
>       words when, in publishing his decision, he gives his objects in
>     calling these people together, "although our conscience regarded the
>      innocence of the aforesaid Jews adequately proved on the ground of
>    several writings." Had Frederick II lived today, he would have relied
>      little upon religious literature in deciding whether Jewish Ritual
>    Murder exists or not. Authority: Chron. Hirsaug., and Magd. Cent., 13,
>                                    C. 24.
>
>    1247. Valreas, France. Just before Easter, a two-year-old girl's body
>     was found in the town moat with wounds on forehead, hands and feet.
>    Jews confessed under torture that they wanted the blood of the child,
>    but did not say that it was for ceremonial purposes. Pope Innocent IV
>    said that three of the Jews were executed without confessing, but the
>      Jewish Encyclopedia, 1903, Vol. III, p. 261, says they confessed.
>
>        1250. Saragossa. A boy crucified, afterwards canonised as St.
>      Dominiculus. Pius VII, 24th Nov., 1805, confirmed a decree of the
>      Congregation of Rites of 31st August, according this canonisation.
>
>    1261. Pforzheim, Baden. An old woman sold a seven-year-old girl to the
>     Jews, who bled her, strangled her and threw the body into the river.
>      The old woman was convicted on the evidence of her own daughter. A
>       number of Jews were condemned to death, two committing suicide.
>       Authorities: Bollandists, Acta, Vol. II, p. 838; Rohrbacher, L'
>    Histoire Universelle de l'Eglise Catholique, Vol. XVIII, pp. 697-700;
>       Thos. Cantipranus, De ratione vitae Vol. II, xxix. The child was
>                            canonised as a saint.
>
>    1287. Berne. Rudolf, a boy, was murdered at Passover in the house of a
>      rich Jew called Matler. Jews confessed that he had been crucified;
>      many were put to death. The boy was canonised as a martyr, and his
>     name can be found in several martyrologies. Documental authorities:
>     Bollandists, Acta, Vol. II, April; Helvetia sancta (H. Murer); Karl
>     Howald, Die Brunnen zu Bern, 1848, p. 250; Cosm. Aims., 13, p. 482.
>    But a stone monument still exists in Berne commemorating the crime. It
>       is called The Fountain of the Child-Devourer, and is now on the
>      Kornhausplatz. It represents a monster, with a Jewish countenance,
>    eating a child. The figure wears the Judenbut, the hat prescribed for
>    the Jews to wear by decree of the Fourth Lateran Council in 1215. This
>       monument was first placed in a street of the Jews' quarter as a
>     reminder of the monstrous crime and as a punishment for the whole of
>         Berne Jewry. Later, it was removed to its present situation.
>
>    1288. Troyes, France. Some Jews were tried for a ritual murder and 13
>     were executed by burning. Authority: Jewish Encyclopedia, 1906, Vol.
>                                 XII, p. 267.
>
>      1286. Oberwesel, on the Rhine. A boy named Werner was tortured for
>     three days at Passover, hanged by the legs and bled white. The body
>       was found in the river. This boy was beatified in the diocese of
>          Treves, and his anniversary is on 19th April. A sculptured
>       representation of this ritual murder is still to be seen in the
>    Oberwesel Church. Authorities: Aventinus, Annals of Bavaria, 1591, 17,
>               p. 576; Chron. Hirsaug., Magd. Cent., 13, c. 14.
>
>     1462. Rinn, Innsbruck. A boy called Andreas Oxner was bought by the
>     Jews and sacrificed for his blood on a stone in the forest. The body
>       was found by his mother in a birch-tree. No Jew was apprehended
>    because, the border being near, they had fled when the crime was made
>      known. The Abbe Vacandard, defender of the Jews, says there was no
>     trial. Well, of course there wasn't. Even in 1937 there is no trial
>        for a crime where the criminals have escaped! The boy has been
>     sanctified by Pope Benedict XIV in his Bull Beatus Andreas, Venice,
>     1778, which says he was " cruelly assassinated by the Jews in hatred
>     of the faith of Jesus Christ." This last is admitted by Pope Clement
>    XIV, who wrote his report on the investigation he made into the matter
>      of Jewish Ritual Murder when, as Cardinal Ganganelli, he had been
>     commissioned by Pope Benedict XIV to go into the matter; and in this
>    report, he says "I admit the truth of another fact, which happened in
>    the year 1462 in the village of Rinn, in the Diocese of Brixen, in the
>    person of the Blessed Andreas, a boy barbarously murdered by the Jews
>        in hatred of the faith of Jesus Christ." No one questions the
>    historical occurrence or this case. An engraving on wood representing
>                the Ritual Murder still exists in the church.
>
>    1468. Sepulveda, Segovia, Spain. The Jews sacrificed a Christian child
>    on a cross. The Bishop of Segovia investigated the crime, and ordered
>    the culprits to Segovia, where they were executed. It is important to
>    know that this Bishop was himself son of a converted Jew; Jean d'Avila
>    was his name. Colmenares's History of Segovia records the facts of the
>    case, which was juridically decided by a man of Jewish blood. That may
>      be the reason that one finds no mention of it in Strack's book in
>              defence of the Jews, The Jew and Human Sacrifice.
>
>     1475. The Case of St. Simon of Trent. In 1475, a three-year-old boy
>          named Simon disappeared in the Italian town of Trent; the
>     circumstances were such that suspicion fell upon the Jews. Hoping to
>     averr this suspicion, they themselves "found" the child's body in a
>         conduit where they afterwards confessed to having thrown it.
>     Examination of the body, however, revealed that the boy had not been
>     drowned; there were strange wounds on the body, of circumcision and
>     crucifixion. About seven Jews were arrested; they were tortured and
>     confessed that the boy had been ritually murdered for the purpose of
>    obtaining Christian blood to mix with the ceremonial unleavened bread;
>      these confessions were made separately and agreed in all essential
>    details. The Jews were tried and were ultimately executed. The officer
>    in charge of the investigation of the crime, Jean de Salis de Brescia,
>    had before him a converted Jew, Jean de Feltro, who described how his
>    father told him that Jews of his town, Lanzhat, had killed a child at
>      Passover to get the blood of which they partook in wine and cakes.
>
>     No one has ever dared to try and deny the historical events of this
>    case; only the Jews invent "reasons" why it was not Ritual Murder! But
>    there is no escape from the opposite conclusion. In 1759 in answer to
>    a Jewish appeal from Poland, the Inquisition sent Cardinal Ganganelli
>     (later he became Pope Clement XIV) to investigate and report on the
>    whole subject, with particular reference to the many cases then being
>     reported in Poland; although this man went out with a biased mind in
>    favour of the Jews (in his report, he says: "With my weak faculties I
>      endevoured to demonstrate the non-existence of the crime which was
>    imputed to the Jewish nation in Poland," hardly the spirit in which to
>    enter upon such an investigation, he actually says of this Trent case
>      (see Report of Cardinal Ganganelli, in C. Roth's The Ritual Murder
>    Libel and the Jew, 1935, p. 83): "I admit then as true the fact of the
>     Blessed Simon, a boy three years old, killed by the Jews in Trent in
>     the year 1475 in hatred of the faith of Jesus Christ (although it is
>       disputed by Basnage and Wagenseil); for the celebrated Flaminio
>    Cornaro, a Venetian Senator, in his work On the Cult of the Child St.
>    Simon of Trent (Venice, 1753) disposes of all the doubts raised by the
>                          above-mentioned critics."
>
>    The Jews try to throw discredit on the judges who condemned the Jewish
>     murderers by quoting Pope Sixtus IV who refused to sanction the cult
>     of St. Simon; but the reason for this was that the cult was not then
>     authorised by Rome, but was a popular movement without authority and
>      contrary to Church discipline; this same Pope later expressed his
>     approval of the verdict on the Jews in the Papal Bull XII Kal. July,
>                                    1478.
>
>         We have not only the testimony as to the correctitude of the
>    proceedings from Sixtus IV; but also that of several other Popes; such
>        as Sixtus V, who regularised the popular cult of St. Simon by
>    ratifying it in 1588, as cited by Benedict XIV in Book I, Ch. xiv, No.
>      4 of his On the Cononisation of the Saints; also by this same Pope
>      Benedict XIV in his Ball Beatus Andreas of 22nd February, I755, in
>    which he confirms Simon as a saint, a fact omitted from the arguments
>     of that advocate for the Jews, Strack (The Jew and Human Sacrifice);
>       Gregory XIII recognised Simon as a martyr, and even visited the
>     shrine; and, as already stated, Clement XIV was obliged to recognise
>        that it was a case of Jewish murder in hatred of Christianity.
>
>    St. Simon's shrine is in the Church of St. Peter, Trent; relics of him
>              are still shown, among them the sacrificial knife.
>
>    In short, the Ritual Murder of St. Simon at Trent is supported by such
>    evidence that those who doubt it are thereby condemning without reason
>       high juridical and ecclesiastical authorities whose probity and
>           intelligence there is not the slightest excuse to deny.
>
>    1480. Venice. This case, as admitted in the Jewish Encyclopedia, I906,
>      Vol. XII, p. 410, was settled by trial. Three Jews were executed.
>
>       1485. Padua, Italy. The victim in this case was canonised as St.
>     Lorenzino, Pope Benedict XIV mentioning him as a martyr in his Bull
>    Beatus Andreas. This case was attested by the Episcopal Court of Padua
>
>      1490. Toledo. This is a most important case, the circumstances of
>      which have been clarified for us by W. T. Walsh in his interesting
>     book on Isabella of Spain, 1931 (Sheed & Ward), in which he devotes
>    pp. 441 to 468 to his researches on this Ritual Murder charge. Had it
>      not been for Mr. Walsh, I might have been influenced by the Jewish
>        Encyclopedia's statement (1903, Vol. II1, p. 262) that "Modern
>      historians even deny that a child had disappeared at all" in this
>     case! Strenuous efforts were made by Loeb and H. C. Lea to clear the
>    Jews from guilt of this murder; as also by Abbe Vacandard. Walsh shows
>    that on 17th October, 1490, a Jew named Yuce confessed to having been
>    present at the crucifixion of a boy called Christopher at La Guardian
>    near Toledo. He made this confession without the "aid" of any torture;
>         he was not even threatened with that for one year after his
>       confession. On 19th July, 1491, Yuce was promised immunity from
>     punishment for himself and described the whole crucifixion and gave
>     the names of his accomplices. On 25th October, 1491, a jury of seven
>       noted Renaissance scholars who occupied the Chairs at Salamanca
>       University examined the case and were unanimous in finding Yuce
>     guilty. Not until after this did Yuce undergo torture. This torture
>     was applied to make him say for what reason the boy Christopher had
>       been crucified instead of being killed in any other way; but no
>    "leading" questions were employed in the examination. After this, the
>       case went before a second jury of five learned men of Avila, who
>     considered the evidence concerning Yuce's accomplices, who had been
>    arrested and under examination; they unanimously declared them guilty.
>         Eight Jews (some of them Marranos. or pretended converts to
>                         Christianity) were executed.
>
>      Writing of the efforts made to discredit the trials in this case,
>       Walsh says (p. 464): "Must we assume that they (the two learned
>      juries) were all murderous fanatics, willing to sacrifice innocent
>    men, and that Dr. Leob, Dr. Lea, and on the Catholic side the somewhat
>       too credulous Abbe Vacandard were better qualified to weigh the
>                 evidence after the lapse of four centuries?"
>
>        Walsh is not an "anti-semite." He is a historian, and has not
>    suggested that ritual murder is part or any official Jewish ceremony.
>    But he says: "The historian, far from being obliged to make wholesale
>    vindication of all Jews accused of murder, is free, in fact, bound to
>               consider each individual case upon its merits."
>
>    Walsh states (p. 441) that this case of Ritual Murder was "one of the
>     chief factors, if not the decisive one, in the decision of Fernando
>    and Isabel" (for the expulsion of the Jews from Spain). He shows that
>     the complete record of testimony in the trial of one of the accused
>     has been available since it was published in 1887 in the Bulletin of
>     the Royal Academy at Madrid (Vol. XI, pp. 7-160), from the original
>        manuscript. (This was, of course, before the Red revolution!)
>
>     Walsh charges Lea, the pro-Jewish author, of intellectual dishonesty
>         (p. 628) in writing in his Inquisition in Spain decrying the
>                influential men who were jurors in this case.
>
>     "If the Inquisitors sent eight men to a shameful death without being
>    convinced beyond a reasonable doubt of their guilt, the honest verdict
>      of history cannot shrink from finding not only Torquemada and his
>       judges, but King Fernando and Queen Isabel, Cardinal Mendoza and
>      several of the most illustrious professors of Salamanca University
>      guilty of complicity in one of the most brutal judicial murders on
>                          record?" (Walsh, p. 442.)
>
>     Those who shrink from charging the Jews with the practice of Ritual
>     Murder thereby condemn some of the finest characters on the stage of
>                              European history.
>
>      Finally, we must record that the murdered boy was canonised as St.
>                Christopher on the authority of Pope Pius VII.
>
>       1494. Tyrnau, Hungary. A boy was bled white and killed. The Jew
>    culprits were betrayed by the confession of women, who were persuaded
>     to do so by the sight of some instruments of torture, which however
>     were not applied to them. The Jews, arrested after this confession,
>     themselves confessed that this was the fourth child they had killed
>     for the blood, but they said they wanted this for medical purposes.
>             Authority: Bollandists, Acta, April, Veil. II, 838.
>
>      1510. Brandenberg. Several Jews were accused in Berlin of buying a
>    small Christian boy, bleeding him and killing him. They confessed, and
>     41 were executed Authorities: Richard Mun, Die Juden in Berlin; Sir
>        Richard Burton, The Jew, the Gypsy and El Islam, 1898, p. I26.
>
>                  __________________________________________
>
> 4
> MY IRRELEVANT DEFENCE:
>                             JEWISH RITUAL MURDER
>                  __________________________________________
>
>                                  CHAPTER IX
>
>      WELL AUTHENTICATED CASES IN SEVENTEENTH AND EIGHTEENTH CENTURIES.
>    NATURALLY, here we get a number of juridically decided cases, as might
>                                 be expected.
>
>     1603. Verona. A Jew was tried on a charge of killing a child to get
>     its blood for an infamous purpose. He was acquitted. The sentence of
>    acquittal, dated 28th February, 1603, given in full in the Jew Roth's
>      The Ritual Murder Libel and the Jew (p. 78), released the accused
>    "because the Hebraic witch abhors the shedding of blood" and "various
>    Princes held this rumour of the use of blood to be vain and false?" We
>     hold that such absurd reasoning as all excuse for acquittal is clear
>                       proof that the Court was bought.
>
>    1670. Met. As this was a very strongly established case, one does not
>      find any mention of it in Strack's book in defence of the Jews! A
>     three-year-old boy was lost by his mother on the way to a well. The
>    boy was wearing a red cap, and witnesses had seen him carried away by
>      a Jew mounted on a horse. This Jew was Raphael Levi. At first, the
>    boy's body could not be traced. The Jews, becoming frightened, spread
>    the report that wolves must have killed him in the forest. The forest
>      was searched and eventually the head, neck and ribs of a boy were
>      found, together with clothes which were identified as the missing
>    boy's, red cap and all, by the boy's father. But as these clothes were
>     neither torn nor bloody, it was concluded that the wolf story was a
>      "blind," and then witnesses came forward who had seen Raphael Levi
>     with the boy in such places and at such times as to remove all doubt
>        of his guilt. Levi was sentenced to death by the order of the
>    Parliament of Metz, and was burned alive. Authority: La France Juive,
>                                 by Drumont.
>
>       1698. Sandomir, Poland. Authority: The Jew Cecil Roth, in Ritual
>      Murder Libel and the Jew, p. 24. The highest tribunal in the land,
>      that of Lublin, condemned a Jew for Ritual Murder. the local court
>                            having exculpated him.
>
>    1748. Duniagrod, Poland. Jews condemned for Ritual Murder by Episcopal
>                          Court. Mentioned by Roth.
>
>    1753. Pavalochi, Poland. Jews condemned for Ritual Murder by Episcopal
>                          Court. Mentioned by Roth.
>
>        1753. Zhytomir, Poland. In this case, a three-year-old boy was
>    murdered; Jews were tried by the Episcopal Court of Kiev and condemned
>     to death. A painting supposed to commemorate this murder is even now
>       visited by pilgrims to the Carthusian Monastery at Kalwarya near
>    Cracow. Authority: The Jew Cecil Roth, in Ritual Murder Libel and the
>                                 Jew, p. 25.
>
>       Of course, the Jew Roth denies that the cases quoted were Ritual
>                                   Murders.
>
>                  __________________________________________
>
>                                  CHAPTER X
>
>                WELL AUTHENTICATED CASES IN NINETEENTH CENTURY
>      AMONG these are the famous cases at Damascus, 1840; Tisza Eszlar,
>      1882; and Polna, 1899. In this century, the Jewish Money Power had
>    obtained control over the finances of many European countries, and the
>    reader will see for himself how it was exerted on Rulers, Governments,
>    Courts and "public opinion" whenever the Blood Accusation was brought
>                              against the Jews.
>
>          1823. Velisch, Russia. On Easter Sunday, a 21 year old boy
>    disappeared. His body was found in a marsh one week later; there were
>     punctured wounds all over the body and the skin was scarified. There
>     were wounds of circumcision; the feet were bloody and a bandage had
>     been tied around the legs. The body had been undressed, washed, and
>    again dressed. No blood was found near the body, which was drained of
>    blood. Doctors gave evidence on oath that the child had been tortured
>      to death. Some years later, five Jews were arrested together with
>        three Russian women who had become Jewesses; these three women
>     confessed that they had, one week before Passover in 1823, been made
>     drunk by a Jewess who kept an inn and that the latter had bribed one
>     of them to procure a boy. One of these converted Jewesses described
>    how the boy had been forcibly circumcised by the Jews and rolled about
>      in a barrel until his skin was scraped all over. The boy had been
>     taken to the school where a number of Jews were assembled, laid in a
>      trough, and all present had made stabs with a nail in his side and
>    temples. When the boy died under this torture, his body was taken to a
>      wood by two of the converted Jewesses; and the third woman took a
>    bottle of the blood of the boy to the Jewess innkeeper aforesaid. Next
>     day, the Rabbi's wife took the three women again to the school where
>     the Jews were gathered; bottles were filled from the trough by means
>    of a funnel, and the Rabbi dipped a nail into the blood and dropped a
>    little onto a number of pieces of cloth, one piece of which was given
>      to everyone present. The case went to the Imperial Council at St.
>      Petersburg, all the lower courts which dealt with the case having
>    found the Jews guilty. The Imperial Council reversed the verdict and,
>      on 18th January, 1835, the three Russian Jewish convert women were
>       sent to Siberia whilst all the Jews were acquitted of the crime!
>     Authorities: Recorded in the Jewish Encyclopedia, 1903, Vol. III, p.
>                  267; described in Der Sturmer, May, 1934.
>
>     1831. St. Petersburg. The daughter of a non-commissioned officer was
>        the victim in this case. There were five judges, of whom four
>     recognised the ritual character of the murder. The Jewish murderers
>     were transported to Siberia. Monniot says the facts of this case are
>                                not contested.
>
>    1840. Rhodes. On the eve of Purim a small Greek boy was missed; he had
>     been seen entering a house in the Jewish quarter; after that he was
>      never seen again. It is interesting to note that the time of this
>     event was the same as in the famous Damascus case, which see. Yusuf
>    Pasha, Governor of the island, took depositions of witnesses and sent
>     to Constantinople for instructions as to what to do next. Meanwhile,
>      "at the instigation of the Greek clergy and the European consuls"
>      (admits the Jewish Encyclopedia, 1905, Vol. X, p. 401) the Jewish
>      quarter was blockaded and the leading Jews arrested. The Austrian
>     Consul, however, supported the Jews, Austria being in need of loans
>      from the Rothschilds. But "owing to the efforts of Count Camondo,
>    Cremieux and Montefiore" (to quote again from the Jewish Encyclopedia)
>    "a firman was obtained from the Sultan which declared all accusations
>    of ritual murder null and void." The Jews were released! Now Camondo,
>     Cremieux and Montefiore were all rich Jews. Cremieux and Montefiore
>     figure in the Damascus case, which see. Count Camondo "exercised so
>    great an influence over the sultans Abdal-alMajid and Abd-al-Aziz and
>      over the Ottoman Grand Viziers and ministers that his name became
>    proverbial. He was banker to the Ottoman Government...." (All this is
>    from the Jewish Encyclopedia, 1903, Vol. III, p. 521) There cannot be
>     a shadow of doubt that the proceedings in this case were stopped by
>     the force of the Jewish Money Power, in spite of all the efforts of
>     "the Greek clergy and the European consuls." Authorities: M. P. -N.
>      Hamont in Egypt under Mehemet Ali, and the Jewish Encyclopedia as
>                                    cited.
>
>                           1840. The Damascus Case.
>      This case, now almost completely forgotten by Democracy, convulsed
>     Europe for a considerable time owing to the agitation induced by the
>     Jewish Money Power which left no stone unturned to misrepresent and
>     vilify the individuals responsible for bringing the Jews to justice.
>
>     Achille Laurent, a Member of the Societe Orientale, brought together
>      the full details of the trial of the culprits as reported in Arab
>     newspapers at the time, and he published the whole facts of the case
>      in Relation historique des Affaires de Syrie, 1840-1842 (Historic
>    Account of Syrian Affairs, 1840-1842), which was produced in France as
>                    a Yellow Book in two volumes, in 1846.
>
>       The Jewish Festival of Purim fell on 15th February, 1840. Father
>     Thomas, a Catholic monk disappeared in Damascus on 5th February. His
>              servant went to look for him and disappeared also.
>
>     The French Consul, Comte Ratti-Menton, began to make enquiries, and
>      got the Sherif Pasha to investigate. After a while seven Jews were
>     arrested. They confessed, some after receiving chastisement with the
>    bastinado, to having murdered Father Thomas for the sake of his blood.
>    Four of them were promised pardon if they would speak the truth; these
>    were Mousa Abou-el-Afieh, who became a Mahomedan, explaining that that
>    was necessary before he could confess about the crimes of other Jews;
>    Aslan Farkhi; Suliman, a barber; and Mourad el Fathal. They confessed
>      very fully. Sixteen Jews were found to have been involved, and all
>                                were arrested.
>
>    Several of the Jews, including Mourad el Fathal, Mousa Abou-el-Afieh,
>    Isaac Arari and Aaron Arari, described how the blood was required and
>    collected from the cut throat of the victim to send to a Rabbi for use
>                in preparing ceremonial bread (pains azymes).
>
>      The Grand Rabbi was brought before the Court of Investigation; his
>     name was Yakub el Entabi. He was required to listen carefully to the
>     examination of Mousa Abou-el-Afieh, and to the answers of that Jew,
>    and to confirm or deny each statement made by Mousa. In this way, the
>     Rabbi admitted that blood was required for the ceremonial bread. He
>           also confessed to having received Father Thomas's blood.
>
>     According to the Turkish custom, the bastinado was freely applied to
>     make the Jews speak. The Jewish Money Power has endeavoured to make
>        the world believe that it was only the torture which enforced
>                        confession from innocent men.
>
>     Unfortunately for the Jewish Money Power, one of the questions asked
>       was about the place where the remains of Father Thomas had been
>    disposed of; and the remains were found where the prisoners said they
>     were -- that is, in a covered conduit. These remains were identified
>             by European doctors as being those of Father Thomas.
>
>    Further, the wretches confessed to serving Father Thomas's servant in
>      the same way, i.e., cutting his throat, collecting his blood, and
>              disposing of the remains, this time in a latrine.
>
>      No amount of bastinado or torture could wring from an innocent man
>     information as to the whereabouts of the remains of the victim of a
>                                   murder.
>
>     We spare the reader the sickening details of the crime according to
>    the confessions and admissions of the depraved Jewish murderers; long
>    extracts from the trial's proceedings can be obtained in the following
>     French book: Le Crime Ritual chez les Juifs, by A. Monniot, prefaced
>        by the celebrated Edouard Drumont, 1914, from P. Tequi, 82 Rue
>         Bonaparte, Paris, price 10 francs. This book shows that the
>    confessions made by the culprits agreed in every detail, and that the
>          questions they had to answer were not "leading questions".
>
>    Fourteen Jews were found guilty, and ten were condemned to death, two
>                                 having died.
>
>    Our business is not to horrify; it is to expose the methods of Jewish
>     intrigue and corruption which were used to conceal the guilt of the
>     culprits in fear of the natural reaction of the Gentile to the facts
>                       if they became generally known.
>
>     As soon as the first reports of the case reached the West of Europe
>    the Jewish Money Power rose like one man to try and cover the obvious
>     tracks made by the obvious criminals. Money can, as we know only too
>      well, accomplish wonders on a democracy as also on the Endings and
>         policy of Eastern (and alas! often also Western) potentates.
>
>    It will perhaps be best to deal with each of these matters separately:
>
>                            1. The Press Agitation
>       This was on the usual Jewish lines Ritual Murder was "a Gentile
>    invention"; Comte Ratti-Menton, the French Consul, who had insisted on
>    the investigation, was attacked from every angle; the Jews were being
>                     persecuted, and so on and so forth.
>
>                       2. Agitation by Public Meetings.
>    For example, in London, the gullible democracy was induced to flock to
>     a big meeting at the Mansion House in London, there to denounce the
>     Blood Accusation of which they knew nothing at all, and to offer the
>    Jews the sympathy of the British Nation! Paris, New York, Philadelphia
>                        and other towns followed suit!
>
>                 3. Bribery of the Khedive of Egypt by Money.
>      The rich Jews, Moses Montefiore in England, Cremieux and Munck in
>     France, went off hotfoot to the East. They applied to the Khedive of
>    Egypt, whose regime included Damascus, for a revision of the sentence.
>       He was offered and accepted a huge sum of money and released the
>                               condemned Jews.
>
>     Note the result. The Jews proclaimed everywhere that the Khedive had
>     reversed the verdict! He had done nothing of the kind. There was no
>     reversal and no re-trial. The words of the Khedive's firman which he
>      issued to release the Jewish murderers give the whole thing away:
>
>    "From the account and demand of Messrs. Moses Montefiore and Cremieux,
>     who came to us as delegates of all Europeans professing the religion
>       of Moses, we have recognised that they desire the liberation and
>    safety for the Jews who have been detained or who have taken flight in
>      the case of the examination of the affair of Father Thomas, monk,
>              missing in Damascus; he and his servant, Ibrahim.
>
>        "And as, because of their numerous population, it would not be
>     convenient (convenable) to refuse their demand and request, we order
>      that the Jew prisoners shall be released and that the fugitives be
>    given safety for their return. And you will take all possible measures
>        that none are badly treated and that they are left undisturbed
>                 everywhere. Such is our will. Mehemet Ali."
>
>     He released the Jews therefore because of the numbers of Jews in the
>      population . . . and undoubtedly for cash received. He knew their
>     guilt, and never denied it. Yet the Jewish Encyclopaedia (1903, Vol.
>       IV, p. 420) actually ventures to assert that the three rich Jews
>      secured from the 'Khedive a "recognition of the innocence" of the
>      condemned men. The Khedive's price for releasing them is stated to
>    have been half a million piastres. A converted Rabbi, Chevalier P. L.
>        B. Drach, wrote in his The Harmony between the Church and the
>      Synagogue (1844, Paris, p. 79): "Money played a great role in this
>                                  business."
>
>                          4. Bribery of the Sultan.
>     Having won the first round with the Khedive, the Jew Montefiore went
>    on to see the Sultan of Turkey, and secured from him a decree that the
>    Blood Accusation was baseless and that the Jews henceforth were to be
>     on the same footing in the Sultan's dominions as other non-Muslims.
>       The price of this was a huge bribe from the House of Rothschild.
>
>    The Sultan Abd-ul-Mejid's firman said "that a thorough examination of
>       the religious books of the Hebrews has demonstrated the absolute
>    prohibition of the use of either human or animal blood in any of their
>    religious rites. It follows from this defence that the charges against
>    them and their religion are calumnies." This, as shown in Chapter III,
>        is mere sophistry, but even in 1936 a Miss C. WI. Finn had the
>     effrontery to bring forward the firman as "evidence" that the Blood
>    Accusation is false; this was in a letter to the Jewish Chronicle, 2nd
>                                October, 1936.
>
>    The wording of the firman is quoted in the Jewish Encyclopaedia, Vol.
>                               I, p. 47 (1906).
>
>     On his way home, Montefiore tried to get an audience with the Pope,
>                  Gregory XVI, but Bras refused an audience.
>
>                  5. Attempted Bribery of the French Consul.
>    Comte Ratti-Menton, the French Consul who had shown such determination
>    in having the ritual murderers dealt with, and who was a most upright
>    man, wrote to the Sherif Pasha on 22nd April to say that the Jews had,
>    through the Austrian Consulate, offered him half a million piastres to
>     have the evidence suppressed. Needless to say, when this honourable
>      man was found incorruptible, the advocates of the Jews got busy as
>     stated above to besmirch his reputation. Thiers, the French Foreign
>       Secretary, replying to Jew-inspired attacks on the French Consul
>    Ratti-Menton, stated in the Chamber of Deputies, 3rd June, 1840, "Let
>         it be known to you, gentlemen, I repeat it, that in all the
>    Chancellories the Israelites are in insistence for that affair and our
>    Consul can lean only on the Minister of Foreign Affairs for France. A
>    French agent who is in his right will always be protected against all
>       influences, whatever they may be." M. Thiers also said that the
>    Comte's superior officer, WI. Cochelet, Consul for Egypt, approved of
>     his subordinate's action and that the English Consul was of the same
>                                    mind.
>
>                      6. Bribery of Austrian Diplomats.
>      Throughout the proceedings, the Austrian Consul supported the Jews
>     against the charge of ritual murder. Here, from a Jewish source, is
>    the reason, duly confessed: From The History of the Jews in Vienna, by
>            the Jew, Max Grunwald, 1936 (Philadelphia), pp. 228-9:
>
>    "Following the policy of the House [of Rothschild] in other countries,
>      where it obtained privileges for the Jews in return for loans --in
>          Rome, the abolition of the Ghetto, and in England, Jewish
>         emancipation-- Solomon [Rothschild] obtained from Metternich
>     concessions to the Jews in legislation. It was he who influenced the
>    Chancellor to take a favourable stand in the Damascus blood-accusation
>                                case of 1840."
>
>    There you have it; Rothschild's money power; the Austrian Chancellor,
>      Metternich; the Austrian Consul at Damascus; the Consul's attitude
>        towards the Ritual Murder charge. A continuous chain of Jewish
>                             corruption by Money.
>
>                 7. Suppression of the Reports of the Trial.
>    We have already mentioned in the second paragraph of this description
>      of the case the record of the trial published in Achille Laurent's
>        book. This book cannot now be obtained anywhere. Gougenot des
>       Mousseaux, however, had printed a very full account of the trial
>         (taken from Laurent) in his work Le Juif, le Judaisme et la
>      Judaisation des Peuples Chretiens, a work which earned for him the
>     praise of Pope Pius IX who made him a Chevalier; and the writer has
>     had a copy of this lent to him. But Gougenot des Mousseaux's book is
>     now very rare, and the Chevalier himself died suddenly in mysterious
>    circumstances nine hours after receiving a warning letter. Monniot, in
>     a work; mentioned in the Bibliography (p. 56), has, however, made it
>    easy for anyone who desires to read the details of the trial to do so.
>
>       But, the reader may ask, what about the official dossier of the
>     affair? This naturally reposed in the archives of the French Foreign
>     Office. But Desportes in his Mystere du Sang reported that under the
>       Ministry of Cremieux (one of the Jews who went East to bribe the
>     Khedive to release the ritual murderers of Damascus) it disappeared
>      (in 1870)! As this report aroused comment, the Chancellerie made a
>    declaration (5th May, 1892) that it was incorrect and that the dossier
>     remained complete at the Ministry. However that may be, when Albert
>    Monniot in 1913 desired to consult the documents themselves to assist
>     him in writing his Le Crime Rituel chez les Juifs, he found that he
>     was refused permission to peruse them. Whether they are still extant
>    or not, therefore, we cannot tell; all we know is that the secrets of
>     the Jew are well guarded. But not well enough, as I hope the reader
>                              will by now agree.
>
>    Sir Richard Burton. the great explorer and orientalist who was English
>    Consul at Damascus 30 years after the Ritual Murder, studied the whole
>     question of the Blood Accusation, and: eventually wrote The Jew, the
>       Gypsy and El Islam, of which I have the edition edited by NS. H.
>      Wilkins and published by Hutchinson in 1898. This work contains a
>    damning indictment of the Talmud, and a list of Jewish Ritual Murders,
>      but Wilkins in his Preface (p. x) writes: "In the exercise of the
>    discretion given to me, I have thought it better to hold over for the
>    present the Appendix on the alleged rite of Human Sacrifice among the
>      Sephardim and the murder of Padre Tomaso (Father Thomas); the only
>             alternative was to publish it in a mutilated form."
>
>       Let us follow therefore (1) the Book, (2) the Appendix on Ritual
>                                   Murder.
>    (1) The Book. This is easy. It is well nigh unobtainable.
>        (2) The Appendix on Ritual Murder. What happened to it? This is
>        what happened to it.
>
>    See D. L. Alexander versus Manners Sutton, King's Bench Division, 27th
>      March, 1911, reported in The Times the following day. Herein D. L.
>      Alexander, a Jew and President of the Jewish Board of Deputies was
>    able to show that he had obtained an assignment of the manuscript from
>    the surviving executors of Sir Richard Burton. The executors had sold
>     them to a bookseller, who, in turn, sold them to Manners Sutton; and
>    he (Sutton), not knowing of any assignment, made arrangements for the
>      publication of the Appendix. D. L. Alexander brought the action to
>       stop this publication from taking place, claiming copyright and
>           delivery to him of the manuscript. The Jew won his case.
>
>        It remains only to say that Father Thomas' s gravestone in the
>    cemetery at Damascus bore (and presumably still bears) the inscription
>     in Arabic and in Italian: "Here lie the remains of Father Thomas of
>    Sardinia, Capuchin Missionary, assassinated by the Jews, 5th February,
>                                    1840."
>
>    1852 and 1853 Saratov. Two ritual murders are involved this time; one,
>       a 10-year-old boy in December, 1852; the other, 11-year-old, in
>     January, 1853. After a flood, both bodies were found on the bank of
>    the Volga, pierced with many wounds. Eight years afterwards, two Jews,
>       Schiffermann and Zourloff, were duly tried for these murders and
>     convicted. They were sentenced to 28 years' labour in the mines, and
>    they died during their imprisonment. This, being a juridically decided
>    case, the sentence in which was passed for "killing two Christian boys
>    and having made them endure marytrdom" by the Senate and submitted to
>     the Russian Empire Council, is, of course, not mentioned in Strack's
>     book! Authority: Monniot's Le Crime Rituel chez. les Juifs, 1914, P.
>                                     257.
>
>     1880. Smyrna. Many Jews were massacred after a missing child's body
>    had been found on the beach covered with punctured wounds at Passover.
>                Authority: Moniteur de Rome, 15th June, 1883.
>
>                   1882. The Tisza Eszlar Case in Hungary
>       This is a nineteenth century case, where the prisoners had duly
>    confessed, and where, after long drawn out proceedings, they were all
>       acquitted as the result of the Organised Power of Jewish Money.
>
>         Esther Solymosi, 14 years old, disappeared on 1st April; the
>    five-year-old son of the Jewish sexton told some women that his mother
>    had enticed the girl into their house, whence she had been slipped by
>    some Jews into the synagogue premises. This report came to the ears of
>       Mrs. Solymosi, Esther's mother, who immediately reported to the
>    police. An enquiry was set on foot, on 19th May, under Dr. Josef Bary,
>    and it is largely from a book written 50 years later by Dr. Bary, who
>    became President of the Supreme Court of Justice in Hungary, that the
>      facts of the enquiry have come to light. This book is of over 600
>     pages, and is called A tiszaeszlari bunper (The Tisza Eszlar Murder
>        Trial). These facts can also be checked from the diary of the
>     Hungarian Minister for Justice of the period, Theodor Pauler, which
>            diary had been kept in the Hungarian National Museum.
>
>       Another son of the Jewish sexton was Maurice Scharf, aged 14. He
>     admitted that he had seen through the keyhole of the synagogue door
>      that Esther had been murdered by certain Jews and bled white, her
>     blood being collected in a vase. It was found by ocular view on the
>    spot that the place where these events were said to have occurred was
>      actually in sight to anyone looking through the keyhole. Witnesses
>    also said they had heard cries from the synagogue on the day when the
>                           girl was first missing.
>
>     To test the veracity of the 14-year-old Maurice, the Judge told him
>     that his tale could not be true as Esther was alive; the boy replied
>     that "no one could be alive after being cut on the neck like that."
>
>    A number of Jews were arrested, and confessed that they had taken part
>      in the ritual murder of Esther to get her blood for the Passover.
>
>          One would think that there would be little more to report.
>
>    But no! All Israel got to work with its Money Power, and the Press of
>    every country in Europe was employed to throw calumny on the Hungarian
>    Court and on Hungarian Justice. The Public Prosecutors were bribed and
>     set to work to discredit the honourable Judge who presided over the
>     Court. No stone was left unturned, no filthy corrupting action left
>     untried, to defeat the course of justice; and the Jews won. Here are
>    some of the minor methods by which the Jews with their money tried to
>                              confuse the issue:
>     1. By paying the debts of, or bribing the officials.
>     2. By offering Esther's mother a bribe to say that her daughter was
>        alive and in a situation elsewhere. This was done by the Jew
>        Reiszmann.
>     3. By trying to steal the Court records from the house of the Judge.
>     4. By altering the synagogue lock, so that it was no longer possible
>        to see the place of the murder by looking through the keyhole.
>     5. By spreading reports that Esther had run away; or had been
>        drowned. The Examining Judge caused the river to be dragged
>        without result.
>     6. By arranging that a corpse should turn up and be "identified" as
>        Esther's. On 18th June, a girl's body dressed in Esther's clothes,
>        which were far too small for the purpose, was drawn out of the
>        River Theiss by Jewish raftsmen. The mother denied that the corpse
>        was Esther's although she recognised Esther's clothes. A committee
>        of experts examined the body, and found that the hair and eyebrows
>        had been shaved off, obviously to conceal identity. They also
>        found that the body was that of a girl 18 years old (Esther was
>        only 14) and that death was due not to drowning but to
>        tuberculosis. It became so obvious that the body had been "found"
>        for a purpose, that the Jewish raftsmen were interrogated; and
>        they confessed that the corpse had been taken over by them from a
>        Jew called Herschko, that it had been dressed in Esther's clothes,
>        put in the river, and then "discovered" and landed.
>
>    It was found also that the body could not have been in the water over
>      four days; that death could not have taken place more than 10 days
>               previously. Esther had been missing for 78 days.
>
>    However, in spite of all this exposure of corruption, the Court found
>    itself, as it were, an isolated unit in a hostile Europe; and the Jews
>                             were all acquitted!
>
>       Then it was found that on 21st July, 1883, Baron Bela Orczy, the
>     Hungarian Minister, had visited Minister for Justice Pauler and had
>          told him that Goldschmidt, the Budapest representative of
>      Rothschild's, had demanded that the charges be withdrawn! At this
>     time, debt-conversion was a serious matter for Hungary, and chiefly
>    depended on the Rothschild Money Power. Later, Baton Orczy told Pauler
>    that Goldschmidt actually demanded that the two Public Prosecutors who
>    had made condemnation of the prisoners impossible should be decorated!
>
>    The sort of thing that had been "worked" against all the evidence may
>    be explained by giving one example: In November, 1882, a new Committee
>    of Experts was formed to make a further examination of the body found
>    in the river five months before, and this committee declared that the
>      findings of the former committee had no scientific basis, that the
>      body was Esther's and that as the throat was not cut, it could not
>                      have been a case of ritual murder!
>
>     So ends a dismal tale of the foulest Jewish trickery to enable a few
>        miserable degenerates to escape from well-merited punishment.
>
>        1891. Xanten, Prussia. A five-year-old boy called Hegmann was
>     murdered, his threat cut and the body bloodless. "The Government did
>      all in its power to suppress the rumour" of ritual murder (Jewish
>     Encyclopedia, Vol. I, p. 645). The doctor who examined the body said
>     (29th June) that: "The trace of blood appears as an after-bleeding."
>    On 9th July, he retracted this and explained that his mistake was due
>    to it being dark at the time of his examination! I think by this time
>    the reader will guess what happened between 29th June and 9th July to
>    his banking account. The Minister of Justice, de Schelling, was a Jew.
>      The accused Jewish ritual slaughterer, who had been arrested, was
>                                  acquitted.
>
>                       1899. The Polna Case (Bohemia).
>     Agnes Hruza, 19 years of age, was murdered 29th March, 1899. On 1st
>    April, her body was found in a wood with the head nearly severed from
>    the body. In spite of this frightful wound, there was no blood about,
>          although the body itself, of course, was almost bloodless.
>
>    A man called Peschak had seen a Jew Hilsner with two other Jews on the
>     day of the murder on the spot where the body was found. Hilsner was
>      arrested and tried; another witness testified that he had seen the
>     prisoner very agitated on 29th March, coming from the spot where the
>                               body was found.
>
>    The Court, whilst recognising that Hilsner must have had accomplices,
>     found him guilty and condemned him to death. He then confessed, and
>     implicated two other Jews, but later retracted these statements, as
>        also his confession. The two men produced satisfactory alibis.
>
>    By the Power of Jewish Money and the agitation it was able to raise, a
>     new trial was ordered. Meanwhile Dr. Baxa, attorney for the murdered
>     girl's mother, had in a speech in the Bohemian Dict, 28th December,
>     accused the Government of showing partiality to the Jews in the way
>                           they handled this case.
>
>    Then, another girl's body was found, too decomposed to show the cause
>     of death; this was the body of Maria Klima) who had disappeared 17th
>     July, 1898. Hilsner was charged with both murders when the case came
>    on again in November. This time, a witness stated that at the time of
>         the first murder, Hilsner had a ritual slaughterer's knife.
>
>    Dr. Baxa insisted that it was a case of Ritual Murder. The Court found
>    the prisoner guilty, without however alleging ritual reasons, and the
>     prisoner was sentenced to death on 14th November, 1900. However, the
>          Emperor intervened, and the sentence was commuted to life
>                                imprisonment.
>
>     The prisoner's counsel at this trial was Masaryk, later President of
>     Czecho-Slovakia, this work seems to have stood him in good stead in
>                                 after life!
>
>      Hilsner was released from prison by the Marxists in the rioting of
>                       1918; he died a few years later.
>
>                  __________________________________________
> 5
>
>                                  CHAPTER XI
>
>               WELL AUTHENTICATED CASES IN THE PRESENT CENTURY
>    THE best known of these is the Beiliss case at Kiev, 1911-13. It will
>     be noticed that there are several cases also in Germany at the time
>       when the Jews were the supreme power there previous to Hitler's
>                                   success.
>
>      1900. Konitz, West Prussia. A 19-year-old youth, Ernst Winter, was
>    murdered in March. His body had been dismembered and parts of it were
>    found in different localities. The culprits were never discovered, but
>    two Jewish agents were sentenced to imprisonment for false witness and
>     for the subornation of witnesses during the enquiry! The post mortem
>     examination was said to have shown death due to suffocation, but the
>    county physician had previously pronounced death to have occurred from
>     loss of blood. A large assembly of foreign Jews visited the town the
>     night of the murder and left next day. This case aroused the country
>     against the Jews, and its description occupied 2 pages of the Jewish
>                                Encyclopedia.
>
>    1911-13. Kiev,Russia. This is by far the most important proved ritual
>    murder case of the 20th century and is generally known as the Beiliss
>                                    Case.
>
>       In 1911, a 13-year-old boy's body was found at Kiev with curious
>       wounds and drained of blood. A Jew named Beiliss was arrested on
>                                  suspicion.
>
>      It was proved that the murder took place inside the premises of a
>       Jewish brick factory to which only Jews had access. This factory
>         contained a Jewish hospice with a secret synagogue attached.
>
>    After long-drawn-out preliminaries, Beiliss, who was proprietor of the
>      factory, was tried; the jury found that there was no proof that he
>    himself was the culprit, although half of them considered he was; the
>    verdict therefore having to be unanimous, he was declared Not Guilty.
>    But the jury agreed as to the cause of the boy's death; their verdict
>                          about this was as follows:
>
>    The boy "after being gagged, was wounded with a perforating instrument
>     in the nape of the neck, temples and neck, which wounds severed the
>    cerebral vein, the left temporal and jugular arteries, producing thus
>    profuse hemorrhage; and afterwards, when Joutchinski (the boy's name)
>     had lost about five glasses of blood. his body was pierced with the
>       same instrument, lacerating thus the lungs, the liver, the right
>    kidney and the heart, where the last wounds were inflicted, in all 47
>        wounds, causing acute suffering to the victim and the loss of
>          practically all the blood of the body, and finally death."
>
>       Thus, although the murder could not be fixed upon any particular
>      individual, its ritual character was quite certain, the boy being
>                         first bled and then killed.
>
>           There were many strange features about this trial, viz.:
>
>    (1) On 17th October, 1913, the presiding Judge had to warn the Jewish
>     pressmen against persisting in reporting perverted renderings of the
>    evidence, and said that if they continued in this practice, then would
>                  be refused permission to attend the Court.
>
>     (2) Two children, Genia and Valentine Tcheberiak, who were important
>      witnesses against Beiliss, died suddenly shortly after his arrest.
>     This was after they had eaten sweetmeats given to them by a degraded
>       police agent called Krassowsky. They were examined by two Jewish
>       doctors at the hospital and were certified to be suffering from
>       dysentery the bacilli of that disease having been found in them
>                           according to the report.
>
>     Next, it was discovered that their mother had been offered (and had
>       refused) a bribe of 40,000 roubles by a Jew lawyer to take upon
>       herself the guilt for the murder of the stabbed boy Joutchinski.
>
>        Finally, the Jews actually suggested she had poisoned the two
>    children, the Jews having characteristically forgotten for the moment
>         those dysentery bacilli that had been reported to have been
>                                 discovered!
>
>    (3) Several important witnesses gave expert opinion that the Jews use
>     Christian blood to mix with the unleavened bread at certain feasts,
>       and that Christian children are killed by Jews for the purpose.
>
>       One of these was Father Pranaitis, theologian and Hebraist, who
>     considered that the evidence showed every sign of it being a Jewish
>     ritual murder. Father Pranaitis said that the Zohar, the cabbalistic
>     book of the Chassidim sect of Jews, described the ritual of murder,
>    prescribing thirteen stabs in the right temple seven in the left one,
>     which is exactly how the head of the murdered boy had been treated.
>     Another expert witness was Professor Sikorski of Kiev University, a
>      medical psychologist, who also regarded the case as one of Ritual
>                                   Murder.
>
>     After the Jewish Bolshevik revolution, the Cheka shot the Judge, the
>        Public Prosecutor and many of the witnesses, including Father
>       Pranaitis, the medical expert Kozoratov, and Professor Sikorski.
>    Professor Pawlow, who was a witness for the defence, became a leading
>                        scientist in Bolshevik Russia!
>
>      The ex-General Alexandre Netchvoldov of the Russian Imperial Army,
>    tells us the rest in an article, "La Russie et les Juifs," in Le Front
>    Unique, published at Oran, 1927, p. 59: Quoting Evrijskaja Tribuna of
>    24th August, 1922, he says "that at a visit of the Rabbi of Moscow to
>    Lenin, the first word Lenin said to his visitor was to ask him it the
>     Jews were satisfied with the Soviet tribunal which had annulled, the
>        Beiliss verdict, saying that Joutchinksy had been killed by a
>                                 Christian!"
>
>                          Yes, Bolshevism is Jewish!
>
>    (4) A "British protest," published in The Times, dated 6th May, 1912,
>    signed by the usual Archbishops and bishops, together with dukes (such
>     as the late Duke of Norfolk who had been married to a Jewish woman),
>    earls (such as Rosebery, married to a Rothschild), and people like the
>     late Rt. Hon. A. J. Balfour, fulminated against the "revival" of the
>      Ritual Murder charge; the "Blood Accusation" was described in this
>    protest as "a relic of the days of witchcraft and black magic, a cruel
>                   and utterly baseless libel on Judaism."
>
>         Is it not amazing that where Jewish interests are concerned,
>    Englishmen of standing will try to influence the course of justice by
>             thus interfering before Beiliss had even been tried?
>
>      Beiliss died in America in 1934, and his funeral was made that of.
>                            Jewish national hero.
>
>         1928. Gladbeck, Germany. This occurred at the time of Purim;
>     twenty-year-old lad called Helmuth Daube was found dead in front of
>      his home, with his throat cut, his genital organs missing, whilst
>    there were wounds on the hands and stabs in the abdomen. There was no
>      blood about where the body was found and it was bloodless. Experts
>     said in Court that the throat showed the Jewish ritual cut. The Jews
>    set to work and eventually a young Gentile called Huszmann was accused
>    of the murder, unnatural lust being alleged as a feature in the crime.
>    The case was conducted against Huszmann by a Jew called Rosenbaum, and
>        special police had been sent from Berlin to enquire about the
>       circumstances; the President of the Police at Berlin was the Jew
>     Bernhard Weiss. These special police did what they could to convince
>    the Court that it was a "lust-murder," but Huszmann was acquitted. The
>     Bochumer Abendblatt and Der Sturmer both gave their opinion that it
>    was a Ritual Murder by Jews, and the latter paper was suppressed for a
>                       time, and its editor imprisoned.
>
>    1929. Manan, Germany. A five-year-old boy named Kessler disappeared on
>    17th March. The body was found in a wood, with throat cut from ear to
>    ear superficially whilst there was a deep stab in the neck cutting the
>    main vessels. The body was bloodless and there was no blood found near
>      it. It was just before Passover, and the local Jewish butcher had
>    suddenly disappeared. Dr. Burgel, the Court doctor, said it was a case
>      of Ritual Murder. The Jew Money Power got to work to influence the
>       authorities and public opinion. Before the official inquiry, the
>     Public Prosecutor announced that it was not a case of Ritual Murder.
>      The Judge decided the boy had met with an accidental stab from the
>     branch of a tree or from an animal's horn, and the case was dropped.
>                   No one was ever arrested for the crime.
>
>    1932. Paderborn, Germany. Martha Kaspar was the Gentile servant in the
>     household of a Jewish butcher named Meyer. This man had a son Kurt,
>      and this Kurt had had sexual relations with the servant who became
>     pregnant. She demanded that he should marry her, and the father and
>      son promised that this should happen, but secretly decided to make
>     away with the girl. On 18th March, near Purim, she disappeared. Two
>      days later some human flesh was found on the road, and the Jewish
>     Press began to spread the idea that there had been a "lust-murder."
>      Investigation revealed blood on Kurt's clothes and in a hayloft of
>       Meyer's, and both the Meyers were arrested. Dr. Frank, a Jewish
>      lawyer, succeeded in getting the father certified as a lunatic and
>      sent to an asylum, but he was soon freed and fled the country. The
>    son, Kurt, said he had attempted to procure abortion, and that he had
>    cut the girl's body up and distributed it in various places; a doctor
>    told the Court that some litres of blood must have been taken. Later,
>    Kurt said he had killed the girl in a fit of temper. The Court brought
>     in a verdict of manslaughter, and sentenced Kurt Meyer to 15 years'
>      imprisonment. The general newspapers did not report the case; Der
>      Sturmer said it was Ritual Murder, and was suppressed for a time.
>         These circumstances cause me to include this case among the
>                          "well-authenticated" ones.
>
>    It will be noted that the last three cases occurred at a time when the
>     Jews were supreme in Germany just before the Hitler revolution, when
>       it was easy to suppress all expression of opinion as to the true
>                            nature or the murders.
>
>                  __________________________________________
>
>
>                                 CHAPTER XII
>
>                              THE JEWISH DEFENCE
>    THE Jews and their advocates use sundry arguments whereby they seem to
>     have successfully camouflaged and almost obliterated in this country
>     the trail of historic fact concerning the practice of Ritual Murder.
>     When the author was proceeded against in 1936 for daring to mention
>    Jewish Ritual Murder, the trial was reported in some newspapers under
>    the heading "Amazing Story," as though he had invented it! Let us list
>                   the Jewish "arguments" and answer them:Ñ
>
>      1. That the confessions made by the accused Jews were extracted by
>                                   torture.
>
>      This is true of many medieval cases; it is unlikely that the Jews
>    would confess without such aids to memory, because of the certain dire
>                consequences that would follow the confession.
>
>     But I have shown in Chapter 13 (which see) that many confessions of
>    the practice of Ritual Murder by Jews have been made by those who have
>         been converted to the Christian faith and made freely; many
>      confessions have been made by accused Jews without torture, or by
>        their relations without torture; whilst at Damascus, where the
>    bastinado was used to aid the memory of the accused, it inspired them
>     to reveal where the fragments of the bodies of the murdered men were
>      to be found, and they were found in the indicated spots; I take it
>     that Jews do not allege that the bastinado endowed the culprits with
>                           telepathic second sight?
>
>                    There is thus nothing in the argument.
>
>       2. That the Jewish laws not only do not sanction the practice of
>                 Ritual Murder, but forbid the use of blood.
>
>      In other words, John Smith cannot be guilty of theft from William
>      Brown because the Eighth Commandment says 'Thou shalt not steal.'
>
>        There is nothing in this argument, dealt with in Chapter III.
>
>     3. That the Blood Accusation is the result of mediaval and ignorant
>                                superstition.
>
>         In Chapter V, I show that there were, according to the Jews
>      themselves, more Blood Accusations in the 19th century than in any
>                                previous one.
>
>                 There is therefore nothing in this argument.
>
>        4. That the guilt of the Jews was not juridically established.
>
>       The emptiness of this statement is shown in Chapter XIV, where a
>    number of cases are quoted in which, through the centuries, competent
>     and full authority decided the guilt of the accused or approved the
>                                   verdict.
>
>                      There is nothing in this argument
>
>                       5. That it couldn't happen now.
>
>               Chapter VI is devoted to meeting this objection.
>
>           It will be seen that there is nothing in the objection.
>
>       The objection appeals to the good-nature of the Aryan mind which
>    cannot conceive anything so alien as a desire to commit Ritual Murder.
>       It is the false teaching of Equality of Race, spread by Masonry,
>        perverted religion and democracy, that is responsible for this
>                              attitude of mind.
>
>     6. That Papal Bulls refuse credence to the charge of Ritual Murder.
>
>                   This matter is dealt with in Chapter XV.
>
>     There are Popes who obviously wished to register their disbelief in
>              the practice of Ritual Murder by Jews, and did so.
>
>      There are other Popes who equally registered by their actions and
>                  Bulls that they did believe in the charge.
>
>                     So there is nothing in the argument.
>
>     7. That Pope Gregory XIV's report of 1758 (made when he was Cardinal
>    Ganganelli) is a final and incontrovertible refutation of the charge.
>
>     In Chapter XV, I have shown how actually this report by the Cardinal
>    is proved utterly unreliable as he says in it that "he endeavoured to
>     demonstrate the non-existence of the crime," which shows that he did
>         not endeavour to demonstrate the truth, which is all that an
>     investigator has any right to do; whilst he specifically admits that
>      St. Simon of Trent and St. Andreas of Rinn were killed by Jews in
>     hatred of the faith of Jesus Christ. Thus, Pope Gregory XIV is that
>      most valuable witness in the support of the Blood Accusation--the
>                              unwilling witness.
>
>    8. The charges are unworthy of credence because they have been brought
>                               by anti-semites.
>
>     This is an argument used by the Jew, Israel Abrahams, in his article
>     on Ritual Murder in the 11th edition of the Encyclopedia Britannica,
>      in which he writes: "The literature on the other side is entirely
>        anti-semitic and in no instance has it survived the ordeal of
>                                 criticism."
>
>       How strangely the Jewish mind works! How could anyone fail to be
>    "anti-semitic" if they believed that that Jews commit ritual murder of
>                              Gentile children?
>
>    If there is not a glut of literature on the subject in English, it is
>    not any ordeal of criticism which has brought about the scarcity, but
>        the Jewish Money Power which has been brought to bear on that
>       literature, making it so scarce that no one can get hold of it.
>    Instance, Sir Richard Burton's The Jew, the Gypsy and El Islam, by an
>      author of unimpeachable integrity and illustrious fame, a book the
>           fate of which has been described on page 28, which see.
>
>     So much for the Jews' methods of defence by argument. Now let us see
>             what other methods of defence they adopt. These are:
>
>    1. The killing of authors or witnesses, or of others with knowledge of
>                                 the subject.
>
>      On page 27 are recorded the circumstances surrounding the death of
>         Gougenot des Mousseaux, author of Le Juif, le Judaisme et la
>     Judaisation, etc.; on page 32 is registered the fact of the death of
>    child witnesses in the Kiev case, 1911-13; on p. 33 is given the fate
>       of the Judge, counsel and expert witnesses in the same case, all
>                      murdered by the Jewish Bolsheviks.
>
>        2. Violent abuse of lawyers, witnesses for the prosecution or
>                                  accusers.
>
>    This is a modern development since the Jews obtained control over the
>    Gentile press. It was marked in cases of the 19th and 20th centuries.
>
>    The Jewish Press in this country has succeeded in so reviling the name
>      of Herr Julius Streicher, editor of Der Sturmer, that many decent
>     citizens take it for granted that Herr Streicher is a kind of crazy
>      and sadistic devil instead of (as we know him to be) a gallant and
>                           faithful German officer.
>
>       3. Disappearance of books containing evidence of Ritual Murders.
>
>    Under the description of the 1840 Damascus case, I give particulars of
>    the fate of the Official Dossier, and of Gougenot des Mousseaux's and
>                         Sir Richard Burton's books.
>
>      The suppression of reports of trials has been noted in pre-Hitler
>                 Jew-controlled Germany in the 20th century.
>
>                4. The silencing of reference to Ritual Murder
>
>     The penal laws are stretched in the Jew-run countries to secure the
>    imprisonment of anyone daring to break the Jew-imposed silence on the
>    subject of Ritual Murder. Herr Julius Streicher was imprisoned in 1928
>     for this "offence," and the author of the present work was sentenced
>      by a 31st degree Scottish Rite Masonic Judge in 1936 to six months
>       imprisonment among criminals on a trumped-up charge of the same
>                                   nature.
>
>    Nevertheless there is no law in England forbidding reference to Ritual
>                                   Murder.
>
>      5. Deliberate misrepresentation of the statements of athoritative
>                                   people.
>
>      A good example of this is described on p.p. 43-44, where the late
>         Baron Rothschild endeavoured to use Cardinal Merry del Val's
>       confirmation of the authenticity of a certain Papal letter as a
>    confirmation of a false interpretation of the contents of that letter
>     made by Baron Rothschild himself. Another example is in the case of
>    the Jewish Encyclopedia, Hyamson's History of the Jews in England and
>     Lucien Wolf's Essays in Jewish History, all of which assert that the
>    Khedive of Egypt declared the condemned Jews in the Damascus murder to
>      be innocent; he simply released them contemptuously for spot cash,
>                        without any such declaration.
>
>    6. Bribery of the witnesses for the prosecution, the officials of the
>          courts, or the Potentates who could overrule those courts.
>
>      Examples of this are the cases of Rhodes and of Damascus in 1840,
>           Tisza Eszlar in 1882, Konitz in 1900, and Kiev, 1911-13.
>
>                   7. False accusations of innocent people.
>
>                   As in the cases of Kiev and of Gladbeck.
>
>       8. The production of a corpse supposed to be that of the missing
>    victim, but actually that of someone who died from a cause other than
>            Ritual Murder; this was done in the Tisza Eszlar case.
>
>          9. Refusal or threatened refusal of loans to governments.
>
>      From Jewish sources, I give on p. 27 an instance where Rothschild
>    influence in the matter of loans clearly governed the attitude of the
>    Austrian consul at Damascus through the Chancellor Metternich, in the
>                                  1840 case.
>
>    On p. 30 is shown how the same Rothschild family were able to threaten
>    the Government of Hungary so as to induce it to cause the acquittal of
>              the accused Jews in the 1882 case at Tisza Eszlar.
>
>     In all methods of propaganda, the Jew Money Power ends ready allies
>         among the gullible Gentiles, particularly among Archbishops,
>      politicians, and even with Royalty. These rely chiefly on the idea
>     that the Blood Accusation is a relic of the dark and wicked ages of
>     the past, an idea which I have shown to have no foundation in fact.
>
>      How is it that influential Gentiles so readily lend themselves in
>     support of the Jews against the Blood Accusation? The answer to this
>        question deserves a short chapter to itself. (See Chapter XX.)
>
>    There have been a number of books published from time to time refuting
>      the Blood Accusation; some of these are written by Jews, others by
>      Gentiles. Among such, the best known are those of Strack and Cecil
>       Roth. The works of Drs. Loeb and Lea are proved worthless; these
>                      concerned the Toledo case of 1490.
>
>      The Jew and Human Sacrifice, by H. L. Strack, Regius Professor of
>        Theology at Berlin, went through eight editions before it was
>      published in English in 1909. Strack was a Gentile, but his French
>        edition was prefaced by the Jew Theodore Reinach, who was both
>    son-in-law and nephew to Baron Jacques Reinach, who was found dead in
>    bed after a warrant for his arrest had been issued in connection with
>                          the Panama Canal scandal.
>
>     The English edition is a book of 289 pages, of which only pp. 160 to
>          274 are relevant to the issue. The book is damned because
>     1. there is no mention of the case of St. Hugh of Lincoln;
>     2. no mention of Benedict XIV's Bull in which that Pope beatifies St.
>        Simon of Trent, a victim of ritual murder, whilst the Bulls of
>        other Popes are freely quoted as an argument against the Blood
>        Accusation;
>     3. in describing the Damascus case, no mention is made that the
>        flogging of the accused Jews caused them actually to reveal where
>        the remains of the two murdered men were to be found; and
>     4. the authorities quoted by Strack with regard to the La Guardia,
>        Toledo, ritual murder have been proved by Walsh utterly
>        unreliable.
>
>    The Ritual Murder Libel and the Jew, 1935, by the Jew, Cecil Roth, is
>                 adequately dealt with on page 45, which see.
>
>                  __________________________________________
>
> 6
> __________________________________________
>
>                                 CHAPTER XIII
>
>                                 EVIDENCE OF
>                                CONVERTED JEWS
>      Jews who have professed conversion to Christianity have sometimes
>    denied that there is any practice of Ritual Murder of Christians among
>     people of the Jewish faith. On the other hand, many "converts" have
>                 confessed that Jews practice Ritual Murder.
>
>     When one considers that the history of the Marrano ("converted" Jew)
>    community has conclusively shown that the conversion of these Jews was
>         simply a ruse and as false as the Jew himself, and that the
>     establishment of the Inquisition of Spain was almost entirely due to
>     the fact that the pretended converts could be dealt with in no other
>    way, they practising Jewish rites secretly whilst outwardly pretending
>     to be devout followers of the Church, one will naturally place more
>     credence on those "converts" who admit that Jewish Ritual Murder is
>                     practised than on those who deny it.
>
>       It would be interesting to know whether those converts, who have
>      admitted the fact of Ritual Murder, were people with a mixture of
>     either the Aryan or of the Alpine racial strain in their blood. But
>                       that knowledge is denied to us.
>
>        The cases which have come to light in which Jewish converts to
>    Christianity or to Mahomedanism have confessed that: Ritual Murder is
>            practiced by Jews are chronologically arranged below:
>
>       1144. Theobald, a monk and a Jewish convert, of Cambridge, came
>    forward at the time when enquiry was being made into the death of St.
>     William of Norwich, and said that as a Jew in Norwich he himself had
>    known that a child was to be sacrificed at that place in 1144. He said
>      that the custom of the Jews was to draw lots as to where the deed
>    should be done, and that it fell to Norwich to supply the blood which
>    was required by them in the year 1144; the Jews believed that without
>     the shedding of human blood, they could never gain their freedom and
>                             return to Palestine.
>
>        1468. Bishop Jean d'Avila, himself the son of a converted Jew,
>     actually investigated the Ritual Murder case in Segovia, Spain, and
>    himself found the Jews guilty, who were afterwards executed (see page
>                                     18).
>
>      1475 Hans Vayol, converted Jew, charged the Rabbi of Ratisbon with
>          Ritual Murder for the sake of the blood. Authority: Jewish
>                     Encyclopedia, Vol. II, p. 16 (1903).
>
>    1475 Wolfkan of Rutisban, Jewish convert to Christianity, charged the
>    Jews with the Ritual Murder of St. Simon of Trent for the sake of the
>    blood they required for their Passover celebrations. Authority: Ibid,
>                           Vol. XII, p. 554 (1906).
>
>       1475. A converted Jew, Jean de Feltro, described to the officer
>    investigating the Ritual Murder of St. Simon of Trent, how his father
>    had told him that the Jews of his town had killed a child at Passover
>                  to get the blood for their Passover bread.
>
>       1490. Torquemada, himself of Jewish blood (Roth, History of the
>      Marranos, 1931, p. 39), must have confirmed the sentence of death
>      against the Jews responsible for the Toledo ritual murder, and it
>    would be through him that Ferdinand and Isabella would learn about it.
>    The Ritual Murder case was one of the main factors which disposed the
>                 King and Queen to expel the Jews from Spain.
>
>       1494. Alonzo de Spina, stated by a Jew historian to have been of
>    Jewish blood (History of the Marranos, Roth, 1932, p. 34) accused the
>     Jews of murdering children for ritual purposes. He occupied the high
>      position of Rector of Salamanca University, and his accusation was
>                     made in his work Fortalitium Fidei.
>
>      1555. Hananel di Foligno, of Rome, Jewish convert to Christianity,
>     accused the Jews before Pope Marcellus 11 of the Ritual Murder of a
>    boy. Enquiry under the auspices of a Cardinal resulted in a Mahomedan
>        apostate, guardian of the murdered boy, being charged with the
>     crucifixion of his ward "for the sake of getting possession of some
>    property." This sounds like the usual cock-and-bull story which, under
>     the powerful influence of Jew Money, is resorted to when Courts are
>        faced with the difficult job of shielding Jews from "the Blood
>     Accusation." Why on earth should the man crucify the boy instead of
>     quietly getting rid of him in a more usual manner? Authority: Jewish
>                     Encyclopedia (1903), Vol. V, p. 423.
>
>    1614. Samuel Friedrich Brenz, a Jew, who was converted in I610, wrote
>    a book revealing the Ritual Murder practice of the Jews. It was called
>    Judischer Abgestreifter Schlangenbalg and was published at Nuremberg.
>    The title translated is The Jewish Serpent's Skin Stripped. The Jewish
>        Encyclopedia's description of the author speaks of his "crass
>    ignorance, hatred, falsehood and pernicious fanaticism." The book was
>                    republished in 1680 and again in 1715.
>
>        1720. Paul Christian Kirchner, converted Jew, admitted in his
>       Judisches Ceremoniel, Frankfurt, that dried Christian blood was
>         considered useful as a remedy for certain diseases of women.
>
>     18--. Paulus Meyer, converted Jew, accused the Jews of Ritual Murder
>       in his Wolfe in Schafsfell, Schafe in Wolfspelz (Wolf in Sheep's
>    Clothing, etc.). He had a libel action brought against him by the Jews
>     he accused of being involved in a case of alleged ritual murder, and
>                    was sentenced to four months' arrest.
>
>      The Jewish Encyclopedia describes all these last three authors as
>              "malicious and ignorant enemies of their people."
>
>      17--. A converted Jew, Serafinovicz, wrote a book admitting Ritual
>    Murder as a Jewish practice. Authority: The Jew, C. Roth Ritual Murder
>                       Libel and the Jew, 1935, p. 24.
>
>    1759. A converted Jew, J. J. Frank, formed a sect called the Frankists
>     at Lemberg. These people were all Jews who had become Christians in
>     revolt against the evils taught in the Talmud. They said that it was
>      the Talmud which was the root of all the troubles between Jews and
>        Gentiles. Prince Etienne de Mikoulissky, administrator of the
>        archidiocese of Lemberg, instituted public debates between the
>     Frankists and the Talmudic Jews. A debate held in July took place in
>    which various matters were dealt with point by point until six points
>    had been settled; the seventh one was the Frankists' declaration that
>       "the Talmud teaches the employment of Christian blood and he who
>    believes in the Talmud ought to make use of this blood." The Frankists
>     said they had learned this in their youth as Jews. Under the heading
>     Baruch Yavan, the Jewish Encyclopedia, 1903) Vol. II, p. 563, admits
>         that the Frankists brought the blood accusation against the
>       Talmudists; also in Vol. VII, p. 579, under Judah Lob ben Nathan
>                                    Krysa.
>
>     The Frankists completely defeated their opponents in these debates.
>       Ultimately they became assimilated into the Christian community.
>
>         There is a large bibliography with reference to the Frankist
>    community, of which the following two works may receive mention here:
>     La malfaisance juive, by Pikulski, Lvov, 1760; and Materiaux sur la
>     question relative aux accusations portees contre les Juifs a propos
>         des crimes rituels, by J. O. Kouzmine, St. Petersburg, 1914.
>
>     1803. A converted ex-Rabbi wrote a book in the Moldavian language in
>    1803 which was published again in Greek in I834 by Giovanni de Georgio
>      under the title Rain of the Hebraic Religion. This converted Rabbi
>       called himself by the name Neophyte. Extracts from his book were
>    quoted in Achille Laurent's Relation Historique des Affaires de Syrie
>    depuis 1840 a 1842, a book described on p. 24 under the Damascus case.
>        This extract gives very full information, confirms the murder,
>    crucifixion and bleeding of Christians by Jews for Ritual purposes and
>    the use of the blood for mixing with the Passover bread; and says that
>    the practice is handed down by oral tradition and that nothing appears
>     about it in writing in the Jewish religious books. Monniot in his Le
>       Crime Ritual chez les Juifs copies long extracts from Laurent's
>                          quotations from Neophyte.
>
>    1826. Paul Louis Bernard Drach, ex-Grand Rabbi of Strasburg, published
>      a Deuxieme lettre d'un rabbin converti, Paris, 1827. On page 7 he
>    said: "The zeal of these Rabbis goes as far as dedicating to death all
>      those who follow the doctrine of the Trinity, and consequently all
>                            Christian Israelites."
>
>    1840. Ex-Rabbi Mousa Abou-el-Afieh, who became a Mahommedan during the
>      Damascus Ritual Murder trial, gave evidence that the blood of the
>     murdered Father Thomas had been ordered by the Grand Rabbi Yakoub el
>       Entabi, and was required for the use of zealous persons who sent
>      Yakoub their flour for Passover, in which he mixed the Christian's
>     blood. The employment of the blood was a secret of the Grand Rabbis.
>
>    1913. A converted Jew, Cesare Algranati, enumerated a number of ritual
>     murders for a book Cahiers Romains, 1913, a Catholic publication of
>     Rome. Its date was 29th November, 1913. Over 100 cases are cited, of
>    which 27 were in the 19th century. Authority: A. Arcand, in Le Miroir,
>                      Montreal, September, 1932, p. 12.
>
>                  __________________________________________
>
>
>                                 CHAPTER XIV
>
>                   CASES CONFIRMED BY CONSTITUTED AUTHORITY
>     THE Jews are wont to pretend that the Blood Accusation, as they call
>        it, is the product of medieval superstition and credulity, and
>    anti-Jewish prejudice. They bring forward as examples cases where Jews
>    have been wrongfully charged with Ritual Murder or against whom there
>    was insufficient evidence, the mob taking the initiative and lynching
>                       every Jew it could lay hands on.
>
>     Such things have occurred, but they are quite useless in support of
>               the Jewish claim of innocence of Ritual Murders.
>
>      There is an exact analogy in more modern times in the case of the
>       negroes of the Southern States of the U.S.A. Everyone knows that
>      lynching has been resorted to where negroes have been suspected of
>    certain outrages against white women and children. Everyone knows also
>    that sometimes the mob, in its racial thirst for vengeance, and in its
>       impatience of the slow and corrupt legal procedure, has lynched
>       innocent men. But no one will argue on such grounds that negroes
>    guilty of such offences have not frequently met with the rough justice
>     they deserved at the hands of the mob, or that negroes never attack
>    white women and children! Yet the Jews bring forward this same rotten
>       argument to shield themselves from the charge of Ritual Murder!
>      Because innocent Jews have been lynched, no Jew ever does a Ritual
>                                   Murder!
>
>       We have, fortunately, many cases on record in which constituted
>     authority has duly tried the Jewish murderers and found them guilty,
>        or has, sometimes without finding the culprit, given a verdict
>     concerning the cause of death which leaves no doubt as to its ritual
>                  character. Let me enumerate some of these:
>
>    1192. Jews convicted after personal investigation by Philip Augustus,
>                      a sagacious man of good judgment.
>
>     1255. The case of "Little St. Hugh" at Lincoln, duly tried by proper
>          authority and the judgment approved of by King Henry III.
>
>      1288. Jews tried by proper authority for ritual murder at Troyes.
>
>    1468. Jews tried by the Bishop of Segovia, himself son of a converted
>                                     Jew.
>
>                1475. Jews tried at Trent by proper authority.
>
>               1480. Jews tried at Venice by proper authority.
>
>                1485. Jews tried at Padua by proper authority.
>
>    1490. Jews tried for the Toiedo ritual murder by the most learned men
>    of the Universities of Salamanca and of Avila, under proper authority.
>
>      1494. Jews tried by proper authority for ritual murder at Hungary.
>
>      1670. Jew tried by proper authority at Metz. Sentenced by order of
>                                 Parliament.
>
>       1698. Jew tried by the highest tribunal of the land for a ritual
>                         murder at Sandomir, Poland.
>
>    1748. Jews tried for ritual murder at Duniagrod, Poland, by Episcopal
>                                    Court.
>
>      1753. Jews tried by Episcopal Court at Kiev for a ritual murder at
>                                  Zhytomir.
>
>     1753. Jews tried by Episcopal Court for ritual murder at Pavalochi,
>                                   Poland.
>
>      1831. Jews tried by proper authority at St. Petersburg for ritual
>                                   murder.
>
>    1840. Jews tried by proper authority at Damascus for the ritual murder
>                      of Father Thomas and his servant.
>
>     1852 and 1853. Jews tried for two ritual murders at Saratov. Actual
>                     trial eight years after the murder.
>
>         1899. Jew convicted of the Polna murder by proper authority.
>
>      1911-13. Verdict of the Court in the Kiev case that the victim had
>     been first bled and then killed; murderer not identified. See p. 32.
>
>     Finally we may also mention the case at Breslau in 1888 (see Chapter
>    XVIII) where a rabbinical student was found guilty of extracting blood
>        from a Christian boy without intention to cause fatal injury.
>
>      It is interesting to note that when the Jew, Jacob Selig, made his
>      appeal to the Pope in 1758 complaining of "persecution" of Jews in
>    Poland by means of the blood accusation, he admitted that the cases he
>              complained of had been brought before the Courts!
>
>      In pre-Hitler Jew-controlled Germany, there were several cases in
>    which the Courts were obviously made use of for the smothering of the
>     Ritual Murder Accusation, just as the Old Bailey was made use of in
>            1936 in an endeavour to silence me on the same matter.
>
>                  __________________________________________
>
>
>                                 CHAPTER XV
>
>                               THE ATTITUDE OF
>                             THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
>                                   TOWARDS
>                             JEWISH RITUAL MURDER
>    THE Jew, Cecil Roth, in Ritual Murder Libel and the Jew, 1935, p. 20,
>    says: "The Catholic Church never gave the slightest countenance to the
>    calumny" (the blood accusation). This seems to be very inaccurate, as
>                            we shall demonstrate.
>
>    The Jews say that the Popes Innocent IV, Gregory X, Martin V, Nicholas
>    V, Paul III, Clement XII and Clement XIV have all expressed disbelief
>                    in the Ritual Murder practice of Jews.
>
>    Let us first take the case of Innocent IV, who has issued Bulls about
>         the matter on 28th May and 5th July, 1247, and again on 25th
>    September, 1253. Now the first of these simply demands that no action
>      should be taken against Jews on a Ritual Murder charge unless they
>     have been tried and found guilty; the Bull of 1253 defended the Jews
>    against the charge of Ritual Murder because the Old Testament did not
>                           sanction that practice!
>
>    But the views of Innocent IV are dealt with in the Catholic Bulletin,
>     Dublin, August, 1916, pp. 435-8, from which I shall quote. The late
>      Lord Rothschild was greatly perturbed about a Ritual Murder trial
>     which; was going on at Kiev in 1913, and which we describe fully in
>     this book (see p. 32). He wrote a letter to Cardinal Merry del Val,
>     asking him to state whether the Bull of Innocent IV dated 5th July,
>    1247, was authentic; Lord Rothschild said that this Bull declared that
>     Ritual Murder was "an unfounded and perfidious invention." When the
>    Cardinal replied that the letter was authentic, this was taken to mean
>     that Innocent IV had denied the existence of ritual murder by Jews!
>        But note that no such statement as Baron Rothschild imputed to
>                    Innocent IV was contained in the Bull!
>
>       Let the Catholic Bulletin deal with the matter in its own words:
>
>     "The document [the Bull] consists of two parts, one part sums up the
>    case as presented by the Jews themselves. The Pope states that he has
>    received a complaint that the Jews are being oppressed and pillaged by
>    both ecclesiastical and secular princes, that they are being cast into
>     prison, and even put to death, without trial or confession of guilt,
>    that they are being falsely accused of ritual crime which they assert
>    is manifestly opposed to their law, namely the Divine Scriptures. The
>      second part, which alone expresses the Pope's mind, is as follows:
>
>      "not wishing, therefore, that the said Jews be unjustly harassed,
>       whose conversion God expects in his mercy . . . we wish that you
>    should show yourselves benign and favourable towards them. Restore to
>      their proper state those of the mentioned matters that you find to
>    have been rashly attempted by the said Nobles against the Jews, and do
>      not permit that in the future they should be for those or similar
>                    pretexts unjustly molested by anyone."
>
>     "Jews must consider Christians to be very uncritical and gullible if
>      they think they can he induced to accept this document as a papal
>     declaration that ritual crime does not exist. It is obvious that the
>       Sovereign Pontiff merely gives instructions according to general
>    principles, ordering that the Jews should not be unjustly oppressed or
>     molested. He makes no pronouncement whatever regarding the truth or
>       falsehood of the specific charges. Naturally, he must leave the
>     decision regarding this point to the judgment of the bishops to whom
>    he writes. Least of all was he likely to be impressed by the sophistry
>       that ritual crime could not exist among the Jews because it was
>      forbidden in the sacred Scriptures. None could know better than he
>       that it was not the teaching of the Scriptures, but the infamous
>      teachings of the Talmud that caused people to look upon Jews as a
>    grave danger to society. Only three years before the appearance of his
>       letter, namely in 1244, he showed plainly what he thought of the
>       Talmud by pressing Louis IX to collect from his subjects all the
>           copies he could obtain and consign them to the flames."
>
>     Before leaving Innocent IV. I ask the reader to realise the typical
>      Jewish cunning exhibited by Rothschild in exploiting the answer of
>         Cardinal del Val regarding the authenticity of the letter as
>    confirming an interpretation of that letter's contents by Rothschild!
>                                 How Jewish!
>
>     Gregory X in a Bull of 7th October, 1272, is a little more explicit
>    than Innocent IV; the same exhortation is made for legal trial of all
>      cases, but he says that they should "not be arrested again on such
>    groundless charge unless (which we think impossible) they are captured
>    in flagrant crime." Gregory thus does not deny that the crime exists;
>                     he says he thinks it is impossible.
>
>    Pope Martin V, Nicholas V, Paul III and Clement XIII issued statements
>    which show to my satisfaction, although not apparently to that of some
>     anti-Jew writers, that they did not wish to support the opinion that
>          the Ritual Murder charge was a true one against the Jews.
>
>     Then we come to Clement XIV. Before he became Pope, he was Cardinal
>         Ganganelli. He was despatched by the Inquisition in 1759 to
>     investigate Ritual Murder charges against the Jews in Poland, and he
>    wrote a long report about it. This report is quoted in full in Roth's
>     Ritual Murder Libel and the Jew and is, indeed, the only "evidence"
>           brought forward by Roth in that book, published in 1935.
>
>    From beginning to end of Ganganelli's report, there is nothing that a
>     scientific investigator would regard as evidence that Ritual Murder
>    was not practised by Jews. The Polish cases he admits were juridically
>    decided; and he brings forward examples of definitely false charges of
>    Ritual Murder such as everyone knows have arisen, but which do not in
>     the least affect the question as to whether Ritual Murder happens or
>    not. He merely opposes his opinion to those of the men in authority on
>                                  the spot.
>
>     But there is more. Definitely, and far from being able to refute the
>      charge of Ritual Murder against Jews, Ganganelli admits the Ritual
>      Murders of St. Simon of Trent and of St. Andreas of Rinn in these
>                                    words:
>
>      "I admit then, as true, the fact of the Blessed Simon, a boy three
>     years old, killed by the Jews in Trent in the year 1475 in hatred of
>      the faith of Jesus Christ"; and "I also admit the truth of another
>     fact, which happened in the year 1462 in the village of Rinn, in the
>        Diocese of Brixen, in the person of the Blessed Andreas, a boy
>       barbarously murdered by the Jews in hatred of the faith of Jesus
>                                   Christ."
>
>      One thing concerning Ganganelli's report seems to have escaped the
>       notice of other anti-Jewish workers, and to my mind it damns the
>      report from the beginning; in undertaking an investigation such as
>      that with which Ganganelli was confronted, one should surely start
>     with an unbiased outlook? Read Ganganelli's admission about his own
>                outlook when he went to Poland to investigate:
>
>          "With my weak faculties, I endeavoured to demonstrate the
>     non-existence of the crime which was imputed to the Jewish Nation in
>                                   Poland."
>
>    The Cardinal set forth, not to find out whether Ritual Murder existed
>    in Poland or not, but "to demonstrate the non-existence of the crime"!
>          And yet, he had to admit the crimes of Trent and of Rinn!
>
>    Thus, the book Ritual Murder Libel and the Jew, by the Jew Roth, which
>    relies entirely upon Ganganelli for its material, is valueless except
>     to the anti-Jewish worker to whom it is a God-send! Yet, what a good
>    "press" this book had when it was published in 1935! The Morning Post
>    greeted it (16th January, 1935) with headlines "Ritual Murder: Jewish
>    people absolved: striking denunciation," and called the book "a final
>         and incontrovertible refutation of the hideous Ritual Murder
>     accusation." It is clear that the critic had either never taken the
>    trouble to read the book or was deliberately misleading the public as
>      to its contents; it is no "incontrovertible refutation"; it is an
>    unscientific conglomeration of irrelevant matter, with a confession of
>      bias and of the truth of the Ritual Murder accusation itself. The
>       Catholic Times (15th February, 1935) says: "The learned Cardinal
>    completely refutes the persecutors of the Jews and conclusively shows
>        the flimsiness of the charges against them and their inherent
>     absurdity." Ganganelli "completely refutes" nothing, and all that he
>     "conclusively shows" is that Ritual Murders were a Jewish practice.
>
>    The Birmingham Mail, 22nd September, 1936, is typical of the attitude
>       of the "British" critics of the book: "It is symptomatic of the
>    unhealthy state of the Continental mind that credence can be given in
>    certain parts of Europe to the atrocious libel in which it is alleged
>    that Christian blood is a necessary concomitant of the Jewish Passover
>                                celebrations."
>
>      Although the book was widely advertised when it came out, the Jews
>       seem to have realised that it merely gives evidence in favour of
>    Ritual Murder, for I found it difficult to get a copy in 1936, having
>    ultimately to resort to a friend in the second-hand book trade to get
>                                 one for me.
>
>      Thus Clement XIV, far from being a witness for the defence of the
>        Jews, is an unwilling witness of the truth of the anti-Jewish
>                                 accusation.
>
>    And what of the Popes who have supported the Ritual Murder accusation
>                        by their acts? There are many.
>
>    Sixtus IV approved in his Bull XII Kal. July, 1478, of the conduct of
>    the Bishop who dealt with the Jews in the St. Simon case at Trent. The
>      Jews endeavoured to enlist Sixtus IV on their side by pointing out
>    that he had suspended the cult of St. Simon of Trent; this was done by
>    Sixtus IV solely as a disciplinary measure, for Simon had not yet been
>    beatified by papal authority, but was being made the centre of a local
>                                    cult.
>
>      Gregory XIII recognised Simon as a martyr and himself visited the
>                                   shrine.
>
>        Sixtus V ratified the cult of St. Simon in 1588, allowing the
>       celebration of mass in his name. This is confirmed as a fact by
>                                Benedict XIV.
>
>     Benedict XIV himself in a Bull Beatus Andreas (1778, Venice, IV, p.
>    101 seq.), beatified both Simon and Andreas, two boys murdered by the
>     Jews "in hatred of the faith of Jesus Christ"; "the Jews," he said,
>    "used every means to escape the just punishment that they had merited
>               and to escape the just anger of the Christians."
>
>     How significant of the methods of the advocates for the Jew, to note
>     that in Strack's book, no mention whatever is made of Benedict XIV's
>     Bull, although the actions of Sixtus IV are wilfully misinterpreted!
>
>    Pius VII, 24th November, 1805, confirmed a decree of the Congregation
>    of Rites of 31st August according to the Church at Saragossa the right
>     to honour Dominiculus, killed by the Jews in hatred of the faith of
>    Jesus Christ (see p. 17). He also authorised for the church at Toledo
>    the same privilege in respect to St. Christopher, the boy crucified by
>                the Jews near that place in 1490 (see p. 20).
>
>     In 1867, the Congregation of Rites authorised the cult of Lorenzino,
>                at Vicenza, Padua, ritually murdered by Jews.
>
>     Gregory XVI, also, gave his support to the anti-Jewish accusers when
>     he honoured Gougenot des Mousseaux by making him a Chevalier of the
>      Order of St. Gregory the Great, in reward for writing his book, Le
>     Juif, le Judaisme et la Judaisation des Peuples Chretiens, in which
>    Gougenot des Mousseaux devoted a chapter charging the Jews with Ritual
>              Murder of Christians for the sake of their blood.
>
>        Pius IX refused to see the Jew Montefiore when the latter was
>    returning from his visits to Egypt and to Constantinople, where he had
>     bribed the Khedive and the Sultan so that the Jews at Damascus could
>    escape the consequences of their guilt of the Ritual Murder of Father
>         Thomas and his servant; this, in spite of a shameless Jewish
>     persistence which has been fully described in Sir Moses Montefiore's
>     biography. That showed what Pius IX thought about it, and he himself
>                             was of Jewish blood.
>
>     Pope Leo XIII bestowed distinctions on Edouard Drumont, author of La
>         France luive, who accused the Jews of Ritual Murder therein.
>            Authority: Jewish Encyclopedia (1905), Vol. X, p, 127.
>
>    To sum up: The Popes who have appeared to disbelieve the existence of
>    the Ritual Murder crime have, with the exception of Clement XIII, been
>    those who lived in the least enlightened times; many later Popes have
>      given very clear evidence that they hold the opposite opinion. The
>          reader has the facts before him and can judge for himself.
>
>     Remember that although other martyred boys, victims of Jewish Ritual
>      Murder, have been regarded in many places as saints without papal
>      authority, there is no record of papal disapproval of these cults
>     except in the case of Sixtus IV, already mentioned, whose action was
>       purely disciplinary and who himself specifically approved of the
>     conduct of the Ritual Murder Case to which the matter referred. Such
>      locally beatified "saints" or martyrs were St. William of Norwich
>     (1144), St. Richard of Pontoise (1179), St. Hugh of Lincoln (1255),
>      St. Werner of Oberwesel (1286) and St. Rudolph of Berne (1287). In
>        every such case it is quite obvious that the cult had the full
>        approval at least of the episcopal authorities over the places
>                                  mentioned.
>
>     Those who condemn the Blood Accusation as a wicked invention for the
>     purpose of persecuting Jews and robbing them, must at the same time
>      condemn wholesale some of the highest dignitaries of the Catholic
>        Church, men against whom nothing is known beyond that they had
>    excellent characters, like William Turbe, Bishop of Norwich to give an
>                               English example.
>
>    When the reader peruses the details of the cases that I have cited in
>    this book, he will realise that Episcopal Courts have dealt with many
>       of them; in other words, the Jews were condemned by the existing
>                       religious authority of the day.
>
>    Many of the earliest records we have of these Ritual Murders come from
>     the pens of Catholic historians, such as the Bollandists, a body of
>    Belgian Jesuits; a list of the principal works on the subject will be
>                        found at the end of the book.
>
>    Father Creagh, Redemptorist, publicly accused Jews of the practice of
>        Ritual Murder, on 11th January, 1904, in a speech in Limerick.
>           Authority: Jewish Encyclopedia (1904), Vol. VIII. p. 89.
>
>      Perhaps I may best wind up this chapter by giving the names of the
>     twelve members of juries who investigated, considered and condemned
>     the Jews in the Ritual Murder case of La Guardia in Toledo, together
>                          with their qualifications:
>    (1) Maestre Fray Juan de Santispiritus, Professor of Hebrew, Salamanca
>                                 University;
>         (2) Masetre Fray Diego de Bretonia, Professor of Scripture;
>                     (3) Fray Antonio de la Pena, Prior;
>           (4) Dr. Anton Rodriguez Carnejo, Professor of Canon Law;
>               (5) Dt. Diego de Burgos, Professor of Civil Law;
>              (6) Dr. Juan de Covillas, Professor of Canon Law;
>                         (7) Fray Sebastian de Hueta;
>     (8) Licentiate Alvaro de Sant Estevan, Queen Isabel's corregidor for
>                                    Avila;
>              (9) Ruy Garcia Manso, Bishop Talavera's provisor;
>       (10) Fray Rodrigo Vela, head of the Franciscan Monastery, Avila;
>                      (11) Dr. Tristan, Canon of Avila;
>                         (12) Juna de Saint Estevan.
>
>    On the findings of such men of standing we surely have every right to
>                                    rely.
>
>                  __________________________________________
>
> 7
> CHAPTER XVI
>
>                    THE ATTITUDE OF THE PROTESTANT CHURCH
>     THIS may be summed up very briefly. The Protestant Church appears to
>    have allied itself to Jewry, if one may judge from the political views
>    expressed by our Archbishops and most of our bishops. These views are
>    almost invariably similar to those expressed by Masons, and are almost
>                              always pernicious.
>
>         However, there was a time when Protestants were Protestants,
>     unaffected by Masonry or by the powerful propaganda of which Jewish
>                             money is the source.
>
>     Martin Luther seems to have had an inkling of the true nature of the
>     Jew when he said: "How the Jews love the Book of Esther, which is so
>      suitable to their bloodthirsty, revengeful, murderous appetite and
>     hopes. The sun has never shone on such a bloodthirsty and revengeful
>    people, who fancy themselves to be the chosen people so that they can
>       murder and strangle the heathen." (From the Erlangen edition of
>                 Luther's Table Talks, Vol. XXXII, pp. 120.)
>
>    This seems plain speaking enough; but we find the Jew, C. Roth, Ritual
>    Murder Libel and the Jew, citing Martin Luther as having condemned the
>               "libel" of Ritual Murder "in unqualified terms."
>
>    However, the Jewish Encyclopedia (1904), Vol. VIII, p. 213, definitely
>           states that Luther charged the Jews with Ritual Murders.
>
>    At Magdeburg in 1562, a Protestant History of the Christian Church was
>    compiled, called the Magdeburg Centuries; it was compiled by a number
>    of Lutheran theologians headed by M. Flacius, and was first published
>       at Basle as the Historia Ecclesia Christi. This work records the
>     ritual murders of Blois, Pontoise (Paris), Braisne, Fulda, Berne and
>                                  Oberwesel.
>
>     John Foxe in his Acts and Monuments of the Church (1563) says: "For
>    every year commonly their [the Jews'] custom was to get some Christian
>      man's child from his parents and on Good Friday to crucify him in
>       despite of our religion." He describes the ritual crucifixion of
>    British children by Jews at Norwich and Lincoln, before the expulsion.
>
>      The learned and distinguished Puritan, William Prynne, a fearless
>        fighter against evil, in his Short Demurrer to the Jewes long
>    discontinued Remitter into England, 1656, gave details and references
>    of the Ritual Murders at Norwich, Gloucester, and Bury St. Edmunds in
>       England, and those of Blois, Braisne, Richard "of Paris," Fulda,
>      Prague, Werner of Oberwesel, Rudolph of Berne, Simon of Trent and
>     others. In Book I p 67, he says: "The Jews . . . have ofttimes . . .
>    maliciously acted it [crucifixion] over and again in representation; .
>      . . by crucifying sundry Christian children on Good Friday or near
>     Easter, on a Crosse, in a most barbarous manner, in derision of our
>     Saviour's death and passion." On p. 68 he quotes several authorities
>    "that the Jews in Paris did every year steal some Christian child, or
>     another brought up in the King's Court, and carrying him to a secret
>      house or vault, did, on Good Friday or Easter-Day, in contempt and
>    derision of Christ and Christian religion crucify him on a Crosse . .
>     and that they have been frequently apprehended, persevering in this
>     wickednesse; for which, upon Direction, they were usually murdered,
>        stoned, burned, destroyed, hanged, by the furious multitude's
>      violence, or executed, imprisoned, banished by Christian Kings and
>      Magistrates, yet such was their malice to Christ, that they would
>          still persevere therein, and act it over again upon every
>                                opportunity."
>
>    This book of Prynne's, which ran into two editions, is in the British
>    Museum and Guildhall Libraries, but is unobtainable, though stated by
>     booksellers to be of no great rarity or value; in the London Library
>          there is no copy, but there is a Jewish refutation of it!
>
>     Our nation has been so carefully schooled by the Jewish Money Power,
>    which has been able to destroy or rarefy all sources of information on
>     Ritual Murder, that the twentieth century Protestant Church has come
>     to believe that the thing is a mere relic of medieval superstition.
>
>                  __________________________________________
>
>
>                                 CHAPTER XVII
>
>                                 OTHER CASES
>                              WORTHY OF CREDENCE
>    THIS book is not intended to be an exhaustive history of Jewish Ritual
>    Murder. In previous chapters I have described the cases which occurred
>      before the Expulsion of the Jews from England, and also the cases
>    which appear to me to be historical events admitting of no reasonable
>      doubt as to their correct interpretation as Jewish Ritual Murders.
>
>      In this chapter, I am listing a number of reported cases of Ritual
>     Murder which, whilst being in my opinion worthy of credence, are not
>          supported by the same detail or authority that constitute
>                                authenticity.
>
>    There are many discoveries of bodies of children, thought to have been
>     ritually murdered by Jews, which are not mentioned in this list, and
>    since the Sultan issued his firman in 1840 denying that Ritual Murder
>    existed among the Jews, it is not surprising that many of these cases
>                 happened in territories under Turkish rule.
>
>    The following reports of alleged Ritual Murder appear to me worthy of
>                                   record:
>
>       A.D. 419. Socrates (Hist. Eccles., Lib. VII, Chap. XVI) gives an
>      account of a case at Inmestar, a town between Chalcis and Antioch.
>
>      The Syrian Posidonius (135-51 B.C.), and the first century Greeks
>       Apollonius Molon and Apion had previously reported that it was a
>     Jewish custom to sacrifice annually a Greek boy, specially fattened
>    for the occasion. The probable reason for the Ritual Murder accusation
>      being made against Christians themselves in the early years of the
>      Religion was that many of these Christians were of Jewish origin.
>
>                 1285. Munich. Illustrated in Bavaria Sancta.
>
>      1270. Wissembourg. Monniot quotes on p. 148 of his Le Crime Rituel
>     chez les Juifs a letter dated 19th November, 1913, from the cure of
>       the town, in which the details of this case are quoted from the
>     Alsatian historian Hertzog, who says the victim's tomb was for many
>                             years in the church.
>
>                                1283. Mayence.
>
>                        1303. Weissensee (Thuringia).
>
>      1305. Prague. The mob took the law into its own hands in a case of
>               alleged crucifixion of a Christian at Passover.
>
>    1331. Lieberlingen. Child's body found in well with wounds indicating
>      that it had been sacrificed by Jews. The judges of the place had a
>                            number of Jews burned.
>
>                 1345. Munich. Illustrated in Bavaria Sancta.
>
>    1347. Cologne. The sacrificial knife in this case is preserved at the
>                            Church of St. Sigbert.
>
>                             1401. Diessenhofen.
>
>    1407. Cracow. A Polish priest, Budek, charged the Jews with murdering
>                               a boy at Easter.
>
>                              1429. Ravensbourg.
>
>                                 1435. Palma.
>
>    1470. Endingen, Baden. Jews burned for killing eight years previously
>                          four Christians ritually.
>
>    1529. Posing, Hungary. Child murdered for its blood. Many Jews burned
>                     after confession by torture of some.
>
>     1598. Podolia. Jews tried and condemned, after a rabbi had confessed
>        to killing four-year-old Albert at Passover and bleeding him.
>
>    1764. Orcuta, Hungary. Boy found dead, covered with wounds suggestive
>                              of Ritual Murder.
>
>      1791. Tasnad, Hungary. Jews condemned for murdering and bleeding a
>    boy, on the evidence of the small son of one of them aged five years.
>                      Accused received the royal pardon.
>
>     1797. Galatz, Rumania. About this time "The Ritual Murder accusation
>         became epidemic" (Jewish Encyclopedia, 1905, Vol. X, p. 513)
>
>     1812. Corfu. Three Jews were condemned for the murder of a Christian
>     child. Monniot (Le Crime Rituel chez les Juifs) says the archives of
>                         the island report this case.
>
>     1847. Mount Lebanon. Mentioned by Sir Richard Burton in The Jew, the
>                      Gypsy and El Islam, 1898, p. 128.
>
>     1935. Afghanistan. The White Russian paper Nasch Put of Harbin, 7th
>     October, reports a case in Afghanistan where a Mahommedan child was
>     robbed and riddled with stabs by Jews, the Court verdict being that
>                      this was done for ritual purposes.
>
>    I repeat that there are many other cases of Ritual Murder accusations
>         not mentioned in this book; they are omitted because I have
>                     insufficient detail concerning them.
>
>                  __________________________________________
>
>
>                                 CHAPTER XVIII
>
>                             TWO QUEER HAPPENINGS
>    1839. A Remittance of Blood. During the Damascus Ritual Murder trial,
>          the French Consul, Comte Ratti-Menton, by whose energy and
>     determination the case was brought to light, received a letter from
>    Comte de Suzannet, who wrote: "Nearly a year ago, a box arrived at the
>     custom-house that a Jew came to claim on being asked to open it, he
>    refused and offered first 100 piastres, then 200, then 300, then 1,000
>    and at last 10,000 piastres (2,500 francs). The custom-house official
>    persisted, and opened the box, discovering therein a bottle of blood.
>     On asking the Jew for an explanation, the latter said that they had
>    the custom of preserving the blood of their Grand Rabbis or important
>             men. He was allowed to go, and left for Jerusalem."
>
>     Comte Ratti-Menton then looked for the chief of the customhouse, but
>     found he had died! His successor, who had been associated with him,
>    only vaguely recollected the affair; but he confirmed that the box had
>     contained several bottles of red liquid and that he thought the Jew
>    who came to claim it was Aaron Stambouli of Damascus who had told him
>                 that the substance was an efficacious drug.
>
>     The quick death of the chief custom-house officer is not surprising;
>     witnesses of the crimes of the Jews are subject to a sudden demise.
>     But the reader will perhaps be more impressed by the fact that this
>      Aaron Stambouli was one of those subsequently found guilty of the
>          Ritual Murder of Father Thomas at Damascus and condemned!
>
>    1888. Breslau, Germany. On 21st July, Max Bernstein, aged 24, a pupil
>    at the Talmudic College, met an eight-year-old Christian boy, Severin
>     Hacke, bought him some sweetmeats and took him to his (Bernstein's)
>    home. There, he stripped the boy of his clothing and with a knife made
>    incisions in a certain part of the child's body, collecting the blood
>    that came from the cuts on a piece of blotting-paper. When the boy was
>     naturally frightened, the Jew told him there was no need for fear as
>                        he only wanted a little blood.
>
>     The boy went home and said nothing about the matter; but his father,
>           seeing the scars, questioned him and the truth came out.
>
>    Bernstein was arrested, and the prosecuting attorney after preventing
>      a manoeuvre on the part of the defending counsel to have the case
>     settled behind closed doors, maintained that this was a ritual case
>         for the extraction of blood for the needs of a Jewish rite.
>
>    The Court, however, refused to recognise this, but sentenced Bernstein
>    to three months' imprisonment for having made incisions in the body of
>                                  the child.
>
>       The facts of this case are not disputed by anyone. The Jews, of
>     course, spread the rumour that Bernstein was a religious maniac. Dr.
>    Edmond Lesser of Breslau wrote a report to that effect which the Royal
>        Scientific Committee for the Medical Profession endorsed. This
>     Professor was a Jew, of course. But the reader should note that the
>      report was issued in 1890, and that the Court itself never had any
>                     such "expert" propaganda before it!
>
>                  __________________________________________
>
>
>                                 CHAPTER XIX
>
>                                WHAT OF THESE?
>    DURING my trial I asked the only witness brought against me, Inspector
>                 Kitchener, "Are you a Detective-Inspector?"
>
>                              Kitchener: "Yes."
>
>     Leese: "Are there any cases of child-murder nowadays which cannot be
>                                   solved?"
>
>                              Kitchener: "Yes."
>
>    Leese: "Has it ever occurred to you that some of them may be cases of
>                           Ritual Murder by Jews?"
>
>     The Judge: "If it had, he would have acted without evidence, and he
>                              has no right to."
>
>       In the belief that it is the business of the detective first to
>     investigate and then to collect evidence, and then to act upon that
>    evidence, I give here some facts on recent happenings which seem to me
>       to open up the necessary field for investigation. They are, the
>    Chorlton murder, the Lindbergh baby case, and a queer business in the
>                                  Argentine.
>
>                         1928. Chorlton, Manchester.
>    A school-boy named O'Donnell was murdered on 1st or 2nd December, just
>     before the Jewish feast of Chanucah, which commemorates the recovery
>                        of Jerusalem by the Maccabees.
>
>     The throat had been cut; the body was drained of blood; it was found
>    on some waste ground and it was remarkable that there was no blood on
>      the boy's clothes and hands. There was a pool of blood seven yards
>       from the body. The wound was pronounced by experts as not being
>      self-inflicted. A police witness said the body seemed to have been
>    dragged along the grass; the Coroner suggested that someone had washed
>                               the boy's hands.
>
>     The police were completely baffled; it was certain that the work was
>     not that of any maniac, but that the crime was premeditated, and was
>     in fact, "the perfect crime." The verdict at the inquest was an open
>                                     one.
>
>    The affair was reported in The Times, 3rd, 4th and 6th December 1928,
>    and in the early edition only of that of 23rd February, 1929; also in
>          the Manchester Evening papers, 6th to 13th December, 1928.
>
>      My only comment is that the murder could not have been done on the
>    spot where the body was found, since the boy's clothes and hands were
>     not stained with blood, indicating that the boy must have been naked
>      when the throat was cut; therefore, some blood was probably poured
>         onto the ground a few yards away to mislead the detectives.
>
>    Ritual murders have several times been discovered by the fact that no
>     blood has been found at the place where the corpse, bled white, has
>                               been recovered.
>
>                            2. The Lindbergh Case.
>      Colonel Lindbergh's son was missed on 1st March, 1932. The Jewish
>      Feast of Purim was on 22nd March. A child's body was found on 12th
>    May, dead at least two months according to the experts, with the skull
>                           fractured in two places.
>
>    I cannot see that it has ever been proved that the body found was that
>     of Colonel Lindbergh's son. It is true that the child's clothes were
>           identified, but the 'body' was only a skeleton, and the
>    'identification' by the nursemaid, Betty Gow, was made by means of the
>      clothes and a matter of 'twisted toes.' (We must remember that the
>      Tisza Eszlar case, see p. 30, was conjured with by the finding and
>        false identification of a body dressed in the murdered girl's
>                                  clothes.)
>
>     Chas. Lindbergh, the father, America's air hero, appointed two Jews,
>     Salvatore Spitale and Irving Bitz, as intermediaries between himself
>     and a gang who pretended to know where his son was. The Purple Gang
>    all-Jewish and headed by a Jew called Fleischer, was the object of the
>                                police search.
>
>      Ultimately, a German called Hauptmann was arrested, and the whole
>     Jewish Press of America condemned him several score of times before
>    his trial; actually he was ultimately found "guilty" on evidence which
>    would not have hanged a dog, and met his death in the electric chair.
>
>    The condemned man said that Reilly, his lawyer, had brought about his
>       fate by sabotaging his defence; Reilly went insane and committed
>                                   suicide.
>
>       Hauptmann said that the receiver of the kidnap ransom was Isador
>                        Fisch, a Jew; but he had died.
>
>     The mob of people outside the death-house at Hauptmann's execution,
>     shouted and joked and laughed in the same obscene fashion as did the
>        female furies over the victims of the guillotine in the French
>      Revolution. It was commonly considered in America that Hitler, not
>                      Hauptmann, had been found guilty!
>
>      It is possible that Hauptmann was paid to steal the child, without
>     knowing that it was going to be anything but an ordinary kidnapping;
>        and that the boy was intended for Ritual Slaughter for Purim.
>
>         It was Chas. Lindbergh's father who had strongly opposed the
>       establishment of the Federal Reserve Banking System sponsored by
>     powerful Jewish interests and had also brought to public notice the
>       wicked circular letter of the American Banking Association which
>      ordered the member banks to deflate "to make a monetary stringency
>     among your Patrons." This, it is thought, might determine the choice
>       of the innocent child of Hon. Chas. Lindbergh's famous son for a
>                                   victim.
>
>                               1937. Argentine.
>       On 28th February the Sunday Pictorial (London) reported that the
>     two-year-old Eugenio Iraola had been kidnapped and killed for ritual
>      purposes; the heading under which this appeared was "Millionaire's
>     Baby as Human Sacrifice." Eight arrests were made, including that of
>      Ganceda Silva. The next (and last) we hear of this case is in the
>       London Evening News of 24th March, which simply reports: "While
>      awaiting trial for kidnapping and murder, Jose Gancedo has hanged
>       himself in his cell at Dolores, Buenos Ayres." That, of course,
>      simplified matters! It will be noticed that the suggestive name of
>                 Silva had already been lost by the deceased!
>
>                  __________________________________________
>
>
> CHAPTER XX
>
>                            IRRELEVANT MEDITATIONS
>       I WRITE this chapter in an endeavour to try and account for the
>      strange attitude adopted by Gentiles, often influential people, in
>     rushing forward to shield the Jews, not only from the Ritual Murder
>     charge, but from accusations concerning other activities hostile to
>                            Western Civilization.
>
>    Consider the Letter of Protest signed by archbishops, bishops, lords,
>       justices, editors and professors, which was sent to The Times as
>    stated on p. 8 against the "revival" of the Blood Accusation against a
>     Jew at Kiev, 1911-13. Consider that the trial of the accused had not
>    been made. Consider that none of the signatories would have thought it
>     proper to intervene in the course of justice in a foreign country on
>     behalf of anyone not a British subject. Yet they did it for the sake
>                                of a Jew. Why?
>
>      Here is another instance: Mr. J. Hall Richardson reports it on pp.
>      216-217 of his book, From the City to Fleet Street (S. Paul & Co.,
>     1927). He is writing of the murders of Jack the Ripper, and he says:
>
>     "It would scarcely be believed that the Metropolitan Police held the
>      clue to the identification of the murderer in their own hands and
>     deliberately threw it away under the personal direction of the then
>    Commissioner of Police, Sir Chas. Warren, who acted in the belief that
>     an anti-Semitic riot might take place if a certain damning piece of
>               writing were permitted to remain on the walls."
>
>      Writing of the murderer: "Some freak of fancy had led him to write
>     upon the wall this sentence: 'The Jewes are not the men to be blamed
>                                for nothing.'
>
>     "I have never learned that any photographic record was made of this
>     inscription, and when the City Police came to hear of it, they were
>     horrified that their colleagues in the Metropolitan Force had wiped
>        away what might have been an important piece of circumstantial
>          evidence as to the class to which the murderer belonged."
>
>    That the Jack the Ripper murders were ritual I do not allege; but that
>         they were Jewish seems to be established by the above-quoted
>    paragraphs. Yet the clue was passed over and the murderer remained at
>     large. In what other cause would such an important piece of evidence
>      be ignored, and the whole community's interests sacrificed for the
>     sake of a Jew? It is significant, that Sir Chas. Warren was not only
>    District Grand Master in Masonry, 1891-5, but was actually the founder
>                of the first research Lodge--Quatuor Coronati.
>
>      Is it a sort of mass hypnotism worked upon people who have already
>     either consciously or unconsciously accepted some sort of mental or
>        spiritual subservience to Jewish influence? Is it cabbalistic?
>
>    I cannot answer the question, but I find no other explanation for the
>    wholesale denunciation which is made by so many authoritative Britons
>      against those who have the courage to come forward and state their
>     conviction that the Jews have been responsible for the Ritual Murder
>    of Christians. I know I shall be subjected to a long-continued typhoon
>     of abuse and libel against which I shall have no defence except the
>    contents of this book. I can only ask those who feel compelled to take
>           part in the campaign against what is inaccurately called
>     "anti-semitism" to pause and ask themselves whether they are really
>     mentally free, or whether they are almost unconsciously directed in
>    their intended action by alien tenets absorbed perhaps in their youth
>    under Old Testament teachings, in adult life by Masonic influence, or
>                               by Jewish books.
>
>
> 8
> BIBLIOGRAPHY
>                             OF WORKS SUPPORTING
>                             THE BLOOD ACCUSATION
>
>     Acta Sanctorum. This is the work of the Bollandists, who were a band
>     of Jesuits devoting themselves to historical record between 1643 and
>      1883. The volumes in which they recorded various ritual murders by
>          Jews are mainly those written in the seventeenth century.
>
>       Histoire Universelle de l'Englise Catholique, by Abbe Rohrbacher
>                           (Gaume et Freres, 1845).
>
>                        Lives of the Saints, by Alban Butler.
>
>      Dizionario Ecclesiastico, Vol. 64-66 (Semenario Peo-scire, Venice,
>                                   1853-4).
>
>     Annales Ecclesiastici, ab 1198, p. 568, by O. Raynaldus, 1753. These
>                two deal with the case of St. Simon of Trent.
>
>      Catholic Bulletin, August, 1916 (published at Dublin, M. H. Gill &
>                                    Sons).
>
>     Cahiers Romains, Catholic publication in Rome, 29th November, 1913.
>
>            Acts and Monuments of the Church, by John Foxe, 1563.
>
>    A Short Demurrer to the Jewes long discontinued Remitter into England,
>                           by William Prynne, 1656.
>
>      Les Juifs devant l'Eglise et l' Histoire, by Rev. Father Constant.
>
>    Meine Antworten an die Rabbiner: Funf Briefe uber den Talmudismus und
>     das Blut-Ritual der Juden, by August Rohling (1883), Canon of Prague
>                                  Cathedral.
>
>    La France Juive, by Edouard Drumont. Obtainable from M. Petit, 12 rue
>                        Laugier, Paris 17. 70 francs.
>
>       Le Juif, le Judaisme et la Judaisation des Peuples Chretiens, by
>     Gougenot des Mousseaux, Chevalier, 1886. The whole of Chapter VI is
>                          devoted to Ritual Murders.
>
>        Le Mystere du Sang chez les Juifs de tous les Temps, by Henri
>                          Desportes, 1889 (Savine).
>
>     Le Crime Rituel chez les Juifs, by A. Monniot, 1914. Obtainable from
>     M. Petit) 12 rue Laugier, Paris 17. 10 francs. An excellent general
>     guide to the whole subject, with preface by Edouard Drumont. It was
>               Drumont who exposed the Jewish Panama scandals.
>
>               Der Ritual Mord bei den Juden, by Eugen Brandt.
>
>        Ritual Morde, by Ottokar Stauf von der March (Hammer Verlag).
>
>             Judische Moral und Blut Mysterium, by A. Fern, 1927.
>
>     Der Ritual Mord, by G. Utikal. This book is recommended by the Reich
>      Office for the Promotion of German Literature as "a truly national
>                   representation of Jewish Ritual Murder."
>
>           Das Blut in Judischen Schriftum, by Dr. Bischoff, 1929.
>
>    Der Sturmer, Special Ritual Murder Issue, dated May, 1934, Nuremburg.
>      The reader should not be prejudiced by the Jewish campaign of hate
>       against the editor of Der Sturmer. The Ritual Murder issue is a
>                         valuable historical record.
>
>    The Jew, the Gypsy, and El Islam, by Sir Richard Burton, edited by W.
>                        H. Wilkins (Hutchinson, 1898).
>
>      Isabella of Spain, by ECU. T. Walsh, 1931 (Sheed & Ward), pp. 125,
>                              439-468, and 628.
>
>                  __________________________________________
>
>     References to other authorities in particular cases of Ritual Murder
>              are made in the text when describing these cases.
>                  __________________________________________
>
>    To the above list should be added a recent work intended to clear the
>    Jews from the Blood Accusation, but which, at least in my own opinion,
>    appears to support it: -- The Ritual Murder Libel and the Jews, by C.
>                          Roth (Woburn Press, 1935)
>
>                  __________________________________________
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
> http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: What is really going on here.
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 01:56:29 -0400
From: jsavage 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

>
> Good point my friend.  That verse would be Romans 9v13.
>

and Malachi 1:1-4....

> Charles wrote:
>
> > There is a virse in the bible where it says God hated
> > Easus can anyone remember that the virse is?
> > My point is, no matter how liberal a "christian" can
> > get do they thing God expects you to do something he
> > would not ?
> > ---
> >
> >
--
Strictly speaking, it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite
a "Jew" or to call a contemporary Jew an "Israelite" or a "Hebrew".

                                       The 1980 Jewish Almanac

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: What is really going on here.
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 02:48:29 -0400
From: Charles 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

Liberals read things into the bible that aren't written
in it.... They also misinterpret what is does say as well
on many occasians. I hear people say all the time Jesus
never preached agenst homosexuality , but what they fail
to understand is that Jesus knew his true sheep knew his
law already via Jer. 31:27 it was placed into our hearts
and minds as part of the new conenant.

If anyone wants to know about Jesus's missing years , look
up Samson Jesus was a Nazirite. He did not cut his hair tuch
anything dead not square his beard. John the Baptist was also
a Nazirite, they were like the Police or Guards over Israel
they took nothing from no one unless they willed it!!!

It is the liberals and the mainstream little [c]hristian who
hate Us who are Identity because we know the truth about the
Edomite-Khazar jew and we like the Nazirites are taking it to
the world.

I love the internet, we can spread the word here faster than
ever before :) and they will do anything to stop up from telling
this great truth.

See http://khazaria.com let the jew himself tell it for us.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Burden of Proof
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 06:41:58 CDT
From: "David Griffin" 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

>From: philnancy@aol.com
>Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
>To: 13texan@eGroups.com
>Subject: [13texan] Re: Burden of Proof
>Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 06:37:45 -0700
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>From 13texan-return-489-david_223 Mon Aug 30 06:38:55 1999
>Received: from [207.138.41.146] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id
>MHotMailB993D45A01B2D820F3ABCF8A29920C0017; Mon Aug 30 06:38:55 1999
>Received: from [10.1.2.36] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 Aug 1999
>14:37:54 -0000
>Mailing-List: contact 13texan-owner@egroups.com
>X-Mailing-List: 13texan@egroups.com
>X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/13texan/
>Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-13texan@eGroups.com
>Received: (qmail 10765 invoked from network); 30 Aug 1999 13:37:52 -0000
>Received: from mu.egroups.com (207.138.41.151) by qg.egroups.com with SMTP;
>30 Aug 1999 13:37:52 -0000
>Received: from [10.1.2.7] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 Aug 1999
>14:37:51 -0000
>Message-ID: <7qe1f9$qb81@eGroups.com>
>In-Reply-To:  <19990830122819.99866.qmail@hotmail.com>
>User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.76
>X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster
>
>philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
>original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=507
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Jeanne-Marie Zimmerman" 
> > >Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
> > >To: 13texan@egroups.com
> > >Subject: [13texan] Burden of Proof
> > >Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 19:53:26 PDT
> > >MIME-Version: 1.0
> > >From 13texan-return-392-david_223 Fri Aug 27 19:54:06 1999
> > >Received: from [207.138.41.146] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id
> > >MHotMailB9909A060127D82197AACF8A29926E90140; Fri Aug 27 19:54:06 1999
> > >Received: from [10.1.2.36] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 28 Aug 1999
> > >03:53:28 -0000
> > >Mailing-List: contact 13texan-owner@egroups.com
> > >X-Mailing-List: 13texan@egroups.com
> > >X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/13texan/
> > >Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-13texan@egroups.com
> > >Received: (qmail 12678 invoked from network); 28 Aug 1999 02:53:27
>-0000
> > >Received: from f214.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.105)
>by
> > >qh.egroups.com with SMTP; 28 Aug 1999 02:53:27 -0000
> > >Received: (qmail 13776 invoked by uid 0); 28 Aug 1999 02:53:26 -0000
> > >Message-ID: <19990828025326.13775.qmail@hotmail.com>
> > >Received: from 208.25.190.196 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 27
>Aug
> > >1999 19:53:26 PDT
> > >X-Originating-IP: [208.25.190.196]
> > >
> > >Philip Mattews said:
> > >You might as well ask him to prove the American Civil War occurred.
>The
> > >Holocaust is a proven historical event, and the burden is on you if
>you
> > >wish
> > >to claim it didn't occur, just as it would be your burden if you
>decided
> > >the
> > >Civil War never happened.
> >
> >
> > Well, I know a fellow that states that he is Napolean; prove he's not.
> >
>
>Napolean lived and died long ago. Historical facts exist to prove that,
>as they  exist to prove the Holocaust. The fellow you know is
>delusional.
>
>Philip Mathews
>

There must be some communicate...something to prove there was a
holocaust.....besides just someone saying there was.....even the figures
census don't add up.....only a school-child would believe such
nonsense......

the jews were treasonous Germans, and had to be concentrated....many of them
died in prison like any other treasonous citizens....there is no pity for
them; for they are doing the very same in other countries which they have
fled to today....so Jesus may have the same fate in store for them; for
apparantly they have not learned that there is a price to pay for treason.

David

______________________________________________________

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: "Big Lie": Herb
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 06:48:12 CDT
From: "David Griffin" 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

>From: philnancy@aol.com
>Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
>To: 13texan@eGroups.com
>Subject: [13texan] Re: "Big Lie": Herb
>Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 06:46:41 -0700
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>From 13texan-return-493-david_223 Mon Aug 30 06:51:14 1999
>Received: from [207.138.41.146] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id
>MHotMailB993D6EA010AD82197F3CF8A2992300097; Mon Aug 30 06:51:14 1999
>Received: from [10.1.2.36] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 Aug 1999
>14:46:53 -0000
>Mailing-List: contact 13texan-owner@egroups.com
>X-Mailing-List: 13texan@egroups.com
>X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/13texan/
>Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-13texan@eGroups.com
>Received: (qmail 15123 invoked from network); 30 Aug 1999 13:46:49 -0000
>Received: from mu.egroups.com (207.138.41.151) by qg.egroups.com with SMTP;
>30 Aug 1999 13:46:49 -0000
>Received: from [10.1.2.7] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 Aug 1999
>14:46:49 -0000
>Message-ID: <7qe201$qbd6@eGroups.com>
>In-Reply-To:  <19990830134411.70064.qmail@hotmail.com>
>User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.76
>X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster
>
>philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
>original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=516
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: reiver@tca.net
> > >Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
> > >To: 13texan@egroups.com
> > >Subject: [13texan] Re: "Big Lie": Herb
> > >Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 23:15:11 -0000
> > >MIME-Version: 1.0
> > >From 13texan-return-409-david_223 Sat Aug 28 21:16:26 1999
> > >Received: from [207.138.41.146] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id
> > >MHotMailB991FE5000EED82197D7CF8A2992172F175; Sat Aug 28 21:16:26 1999
> > >Received: from [10.1.2.36] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 Aug 1999
> > >05:15:37 -0000
> > >Mailing-List: contact 13texan-owner@egroups.com
> > >X-Mailing-List: 13texan@egroups.com
> > >X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/13texan/
> > >Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-13texan@egroups.com
> > >Received: (qmail 10289 invoked from network); 29 Aug 1999 04:15:35
>-0000
> > >Received: from mail.myriad.net (HELO newman.myriad.net)
>(204.57.67.6) by
> > >qh.egroups.com with SMTP; 29 Aug 1999 04:15:35 -0000
> > >Received: from default (usr09-018.tca.net [208.180.3.18]) by
> > >newman.myriad.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA30521 for
> > ><13texan@egroups.com>; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 23:15:32 -0500
> > >Message-Id: <199908290415.XAA30521@newman.myriad.net>
> > >Priority: normal
> > >In-reply-to: <7qaata$buv4@eGroups.com>
> > >References: <19990827194758.69328.qmail@hotmail.com>
> > >X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11)
> > >
> > >On 28 Aug 99, at 20:54, philnancy@aol.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > People who supported communism. It exists today in China, with a
> > > > population well in excess of 1 billion with nary a Jew, and in
>Cuba,
> > > > equally bereft of Jews.
> >
> > But Karl Marx was a Jew, as were 56 of the 59 politboro members in
>Russia in
> > 1935...and of the 3 that were not Jewish; they had Jewish
>wives.....There is
> > an old saying, "Scratch a Jew and you'll find a communist"
>
>
>The fact that Karl Marx was a non practicing Jew doesn't mean Communism
>is a Jewish political system. I very much doubt your contention about
>1935 and the Politboro composition. Any source for it?
>
>Philip Mathews
>

Were all the "6 million" practicing jews?...and if they were not, then
shouldn't they be excluded from the holocasut number, as we exclude Marx, on
the basis of his non-practicing status?

As far as the Politboro composition; do you own leg-work man...It's all
there in your public library....it's not secret

At least we have to give Herr Hitler credit for thinning out the communist
ranks; and maybe God sent Herr Hitler for that very purpose.

David

______________________________________________________

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: What is really going on here.
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 06:57:54 CDT
From: "David Griffin" 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

>From: philnancy@aol.com
>Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
>To: 13texan@eGroups.com
>Subject: [13texan] Re: What is really going on here.
>Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 09:43:33 -0700
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>From 13texan-return-499-david_223 Mon Aug 30 09:44:00 1999
>Received: from [207.138.41.146] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id
>MHotMailB993FF5C0137D821979FCF8A29928AC0144; Mon Aug 30 09:44:00 1999
>Received: from [10.1.2.36] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 Aug 1999
>17:43:41 -0000
>Mailing-List: contact 13texan-owner@egroups.com
>X-Mailing-List: 13texan@egroups.com
>X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/13texan/
>Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-13texan@eGroups.com
>Received: (qmail 25401 invoked from network); 30 Aug 1999 16:43:36 -0000
>Received: from mu.egroups.com (207.138.41.151) by qh.egroups.com with SMTP;
>30 Aug 1999 16:43:36 -0000
>Received: from [10.1.2.7] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 Aug 1999
>17:43:35 -0000
>Message-ID: <7qecbl$qf9g@eGroups.com>
>In-Reply-To:  <3760-37CA9DEF-31400@postoffice-101.iap.bryant.webtv.net>
>User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.76
>X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster
>
>philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
>original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=522
> > I do not believe that anyone should ever close his mind to new
>knowledge
> > and i don't want to offend anyone but regarding the holocaust there
>are
> > extremes on both sides.  When i was growing up i was PROGRAMED to
> > BELIEVE that anyone that believed that the holocaust didn't happen was
> > an idiot.
>
>
>And I was programmed to believe the same thing of people who denied
>proven history. Why is it that this historical event dealing with the
>murder of 6 million Jews is the only one whose occurrence is denied. No
>similar denial movement exists for the genocide of Armenians, or the
>Soviet Gulag, or the Cambodian slaughter by Pol Pot. And why is there
>such a close correlation between this irrational denial and the hatred
>of Jews? There is no extreme side of historical fact, the denial of
>which is by definition extreme.
>
>
>
>  They would always put some skinhead or person that was weird
> > on the television and they would never ever give a reason that made
>any
> > sense on why they believed or SUPPOSEDLY BELIEVED  about the
>holocaust.
> > And  the holocaust was always portrayed as NEVER HAPPENING and the
> > people were always LOUD, IRRATIONABLE AND FULL OF HATE!!!  When  i was
> > growing up i was also taught that the jews were GOD'S CHOSEN PEOPLE.
> > Here in Alabama where i live our newly elected CLOSET JEW  DON
>SIEGELMAN
> > and his OPENLY JEW wife have now passed a law that the holocaust must
>be
> > extensivly taught and studied in Alabama public schools.
>
>Neither the GOvernor nor his wife have the authority to pass a law. The
>law sounds like a good one. THe historical, political, philosophical,
>military, and moral teachings to be garnered are exceptional.
>
>
>  I DON'T GIVE A
> > DAMN ABOUT WHETHER THE HOLOCAUST OR THE CIVIL WAR HAPPENED OR NOT!!
>As
> > an adult i've studied BOTH SIDES  of the issue instead of ONE.
>
>There are not two sides to historical fact. The other side of fact is
>fantasy. Not caring whether our children learn history is curious.
>
>
>
>And the
> > number one thing  that i've learned is THE PLAIN TRUTH ABOUT THE
>JEWS!!!
> > THEY ARE LIARS AND ANTICHRISTS. And no  jew is ever going to  convince
> > me of any thing to the contrary because unlike the holocaust i don't
> > have to depend on others for my information.
>
>
>I think the most common reason for Holocaust Denial has been revealed.
>And you are wrong, everyone has to depend on others for information.
>It's just a question of whether the information is factual or not.
>
>
>
>
>  It is self evident by what
> > i can see and hear. I don't have to accept it on faith.
> > No one should be on this list to prove the holocaust happened.  For
>the
> > same reason no one should be on this list to prove the jews are god's
> > chosen people. These are THEIR issues not OURS.
>
>Who is they and who is us? This is a history discussion, and the last
>time I checked you didn't make the rules.
>
>
>  There is nothing wrong
> > with reasonable discussion. But when someone tries to prove that jews
> > are anything but liars. (AND THAT IS REALLY THE SUBJECT HERE) Its time
> > to quit responding and press DELETE, DELETE, DELETE ETC... I know that
> > not everybody on this list believes the same
>
>Ah, so you define reasonable discussion as agreeing with your
>prejudices.
>
>
>
>
> > thing and we don't have to. But there are certain things that bind us
> > together. There are reasons we are on this list that bind us together.
> > PROVING THE HOLOCAUST HAPPENED IS NOT ONE OF THEM. This is where
>people
> > come to get the information that is suppressed in the mainstream.
> > Whether they believe it or not is their right but any discussion
>should
> > never get started from SOMEONE TRYING TO JAM THE OPPOSING DOCTRINE
>DOWN
> > OUR THROATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
>Discussing issues, even ones you find problematic, is not an attempt to
>jam something down your throat. But people who disagree with you have a
>right to be heard. As the saying goes, you have a right to your own
>opinions, but not to your own facts.
>
>
>
>  Let us not forget that their purpose is to
> > divide and to keep us from learning the meatier  matters. Do not
>forget
> > that the bible says (AND THIS IS SOMETHING YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE ON
> > FAITH) in the book of Job that WHEN EVER THE SONS OF GOD ARE GATHERED
> > TOGETHER THERE SHALL SATAN(THE ADVERSARY) BE ALSO AMONG THEM. We don't
> > have to get rid of the adversary because we don't like what they are
> > saying. We can learn from our adversaries to become wise as serpents
>but
> > harmless as doves.
>
>The Bible provides no sanctuary for those who would hate Jews.
>
>Philip Mathews

Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not
God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and
the Son.
   If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not
into your house, neither bid him God speed:
   For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

We can see that for a Christian to receive a Jew into his house is a very
grave sin against God.....For the Jews are the anti-Christ, and to bid them
God speed is to become a partaker of their evil deeds.

This is what the blessed Luther taught, and this is what all good
Christians, must believe and practice.

______________________________________________________

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: "Big Lie": Herb
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 07:10:51 CDT
From: "David Griffin" 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

>From: philnancy@aol.com
>Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
>To: 13texan@eGroups.com
>Subject: [13texan] Re: "Big Lie": Herb
>Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 13:23:18 -0700
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>From 13texan-return-509-david_223 Mon Aug 30 13:25:47 1999
>Received: from [207.138.41.146] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id
>MHotMailB99432750198D82197E6CF8A29924BDD136; Mon Aug 30 13:25:47 1999
>Received: from [10.1.2.36] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 Aug 1999
>21:23:28 -0000
>Mailing-List: contact 13texan-owner@egroups.com
>X-Mailing-List: 13texan@egroups.com
>X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/13texan/
>Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-13texan@eGroups.com
>Received: (qmail 4290 invoked from network); 30 Aug 1999 20:23:26 -0000
>Received: from mu.egroups.com (207.138.41.151) by qg.egroups.com with SMTP;
>30 Aug 1999 20:23:26 -0000
>Received: from [10.1.2.7] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 Aug 1999
>21:23:25 -0000
>Message-ID: <7qep7m$thha@eGroups.com>
>In-Reply-To:  <2f441168.24fc3f90@aol.com>
>User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.76
>X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster
>
>philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
>original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=531
> > In a message dated 8/30/99 9:48:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > philnancy@aol.com writes:
> >
> > << The fact that Karl Marx was a non practicing Jew doesn't mean
>Communism
> >  is a Jewish political system. I very much doubt your contention about
> >  1935 and the Politboro composition. Any source for it?
> >
> >  Philip Mathews >>
> >
> >
> > My Awakening by David Duke 1998...This book will give you more
>references
> > than you would care to read.
>
>David Duke is bereft of any knowledge, education, or insight that would
>interest me. Mr. Duke is hardly an expert on communism or political
>philosophy.  His opinions are based on his racism and hatred, not
>learning.

And when the talmud states that it is ok for Jews to have sex with 3 year
old little girls, what is that based
on?...education?...learning?...knowledge?....then if we apply the same test
to the Jews, as you have applied to Mr. Duke; then should we even speak to a
Jew; given their filthy Satantic religion??

David

______________________________________________________

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Belzec investigation - mass graves found
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 07:16:26 CDT
From: "David Griffin" 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

>From: philnancy@aol.com
>Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
>To: 13texan@eGroups.com
>Subject: [13texan] Re: Belzec investigation - mass graves found
>Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 13:27:16 -0700
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>From 13texan-return-510-david_223 Mon Aug 30 13:28:47 1999
>Received: from [207.138.41.146] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id
>MHotMailB9943420010ED82197BECF8A29926B2E94; Mon Aug 30 13:28:47 1999
>Received: from [10.1.2.36] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 Aug 1999
>21:27:38 -0000
>Mailing-List: contact 13texan-owner@egroups.com
>X-Mailing-List: 13texan@egroups.com
>X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/13texan/
>Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-13texan@eGroups.com
>Received: (qmail 6104 invoked from network); 30 Aug 1999 20:27:31 -0000
>Received: from mu.egroups.com (207.138.41.151) by qg.egroups.com with SMTP;
>30 Aug 1999 20:27:31 -0000
>Received: from [10.1.2.7] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 Aug 1999
>21:27:21 -0000
>Message-ID: <7qepf4$pjur@eGroups.com>
>In-Reply-To:  
>User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.76
>X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster
>
>philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
>original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=532
> > In a message dated 8/30/99 9:51:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > david_223@hotmail.com writes:
> >
> > << Well then, would the
> >  concentration of Jews by the Third Reich also be retaliation for the
>murders
> >  of our brethren, Michael?..Father Coughlin spoke some on this
>subject.
> >
> >  Hail Jesus' Victory!
> >  David
> >
> >  ______________________________________________________ >>
> >
> > David, so true and very well said.....Michael
>
>
>How are the 6 million innocent Jews killed by the Nazis, including
>women and children, responsible for murdering anyone?
>
>Philip Mathews

The Jews of Germany in the 30's were bent on destroying their own
country....not another's country; but their own, mind you....this makes them
traitors to their country; and they were jailed, concentrated, detained,
whatever anyone wants to call it....perfectly acceptable punishment....and
we will see the same thing happen again....just watch and wait for it....for
the Jew has still not learned that one must be loyal to their county; or
they must pay the penalty.

David

______________________________________________________

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Edom:Modern Jewry
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 05:30:49 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=557
Ms. Zimmerman wrote:
> ~~~~~~~
> Me:
> The Encyclopedia Judaica as well as the Jewish Encyclopedias
> state, "Edom is in modern Jewry." Therefore, Jews of today have no
link to
> this scripture. It was also Rabbi Stephen Wise who said that
Communism is
> Jewish. Of course, telling the truth is hate, but truth is always
hate to
> those who hate the truth.

I don't suppose you have a citation for Rabbi Wise making that
statement? And saying hateful things about Jews has nothing to do with
truth.

Philip Mathews

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: What is really going on here.
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 05:32:39 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=558
> No sir , no rantings ....just straight to the point . If you embrace
HIS
> enemies .. then you are our enemy!
>
> Ramon

What right do you have to defined who his enemies are? People should
worry about their own relationships with God, rather than the fostering
of hate and intolerance.

Philip Mathews

>
>
> At 06:33 PM 8/30/99 -0700, you wrote:
> >philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
> >original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=551
> >> READ PSL. 139 20-22 ... then Luke 19-27 ... Rev. 2-9 and 3-9 ...
YOU
> >are
> >> living under the delusions of the whore. John 8-44 Yahshua called
> >them what
> >> they ARE !!! Your words tell us who you are !
> >
> >I'm sorry, but you're ranting.
> >
> >Philip Mathews
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Ramon Sparks
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> At 01:02 PM 8/30/99 -0700, you wrote:
> >> >philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
> >> >original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=529
> >> >> In a message dated 8/30/99 3:29:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> >> >yk@jps.net
> >> >> writes:
> >> >>
> >> >> << The Bible provides no sanctuary for those who
> >> >>  would hate Jews.
> >> >>
> >> >>  Philip Mathews
> >> >>   >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Paul wrote that the Jews lost their covenant with God so I hope
you
> >> >aren't
> >> >> referring to them as the chosen people.
> >> >
> >> >Even if true, one thing would have nothing to do with the other.
Do
> >you
> >> >have scriptural citation on this? There is no way the Lord I
worship
> >> >would do anything but condemn the hatred of Jews I see expressed
on
> >> >this list.
> >> >
> >> >Philip Mathews
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Michael Snead
> >> >
> >> >
> >
> >

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: What is really going on here.
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 05:41:05 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

Response to Charles' antisemitic Ritual Murder Canard

The blood libel hardly, of course, needs to be refuted, but it's worth
pointing
out that the medieval Church often did so quite forcefully. In the
passages
that appear below one may observe that the Popes seem to understand the
charge
as primarily a pretext for theft. Hence the reference to "proper
recompense" at
the conclusion of the first passage.

 Gregory X writing in 1271:

"It sometimes happens that certain Christians lose their Christian
children.
The charge is then made against the Jews by their enemies that they
have stolen
and slain these children in secret, and that they have sacrificed the
heart and
the blood. The fathers of the said children, or other Christians who are
envious of the Jews, even hide their children in order to have a
pretext to
molest the Jews, and to extort money from them so as to pay their dues.
They
assert thereupon, most falsely, that the Jews have taken away these
children
and slain them, and have sacrificed the heart and the blood. Yet their
Law
expressly forbids the Jews to sacrifice or to eat or to drink blood:
even
though it be of animals which have the hoof cloven. This has been
confirmed in
our *curia* on many occasions by Jews converted to the Christian faith.
None
the less, on this pretext many Jews have frequently been seized and
detained,
against all justice.

. . . . .

We decree that no Christian shall stir up anything new against [the
Jews].
Moreover, if any one, after having known the content of this decree,
should--which we hope will not happen--attempt audaciously to act
contrary to
it, then let him suffer punishment in his rank and position, or let him
be
punished by the penalty of excommunication, unless he makes amends for
his
boldness by proper recompense."

Innocent IV writing to the German Church in 1247:

We have received a mournful complaint from the Jews of Germany, telling
how
some princes, both ecclesiastical and lay, together with other nobles
and
powerful persons in your cities and dioceses, devise evil plans against
them
and invent various pretexts in order to rob them unjustly of their
goods, and
gain possesion thereof. This they do without stopping to consider
prudently
that it is from the archives of the Jews, so to speak, that the
testimonies of
the Christian faith come forth . . .  [The Jews] are falsely accused
that at
[Passover]  they make communion with the heart of a slain child. This is
alleged to be enjoined by the Law, whereas in fact such an act is
manifestly
contrary to it. Moverover, if the body of a dead man is by chance found
anywhere, they maliciously ascribe the cause of death to the action of
the
Jews. On this, and many other fictitious pretexts, they rage against
the Jews
and despoil them of their possessions, against God and Justice and the
privileges mercifully granted to them by the Holy See."

Cited in *Chaucer Criticism: The Canterbury Tales*, ed. Richard Schoeck
and
Jerome Taylor (Notre Dame: University of Notre Dame Press, 1960,
251-52, 257
n.7.

Philip Mathews

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Zyklon-B:Jewish Development
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 07:45:58 CDT
From: "David Griffin" 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

>From: Herb Gorman 
>Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
>To: 13texan@egroups.com
>Subject: [13texan] Re: Zyklon-B:Jewish Development
>Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:17:56 -0700
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>From 13texan-return-518-david_223 Mon Aug 30 17:09:26 1999
>Received: from [207.138.41.146] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id
>MHotMailB994680B00A0D820F3B6CF8A2992149044; Mon Aug 30 17:09:26 1999
>Received: from [10.1.2.36] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 31 Aug 1999
>01:08:05 -0000
>Mailing-List: contact 13texan-owner@egroups.com
>X-Mailing-List: 13texan@egroups.com
>X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/13texan/
>Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-13texan@egroups.com
>Received: (qmail 18471 invoked from network); 31 Aug 1999 00:08:03 -0000
>Received: from ha1.rdc1.bc.wave.home.com (HELO mail.rdc1.bc.home.com)
>(24.2.10.66) by qg.egroups.com with SMTP; 31 Aug 1999 00:08:03 -0000
>Received: from home.com ([24.66.133.94]) by mail.rdc1.bc.home.com
>(InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with ESMTP id
><19990831000802.ROTV9566.mail.rdc1.bc.home.com@home.com> for
><13texan@egroups.com>; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 17:08:02 -0700
>Message-ID: <37CB1124.4360ABA1@home.com>
>X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I)
>X-Accept-Language: en
>References: <19990830104022.57375.qmail@hotmail.com>
>
>
>
>David Griffin wrote:
>
> > No deadly gasses were used on Jewish political prisoners....Many tests
>have
> > been done of the facilities at Aushwitz and Daukau....No proof of deadly
> > gasses, including cyanide, being used. ..Parasites are very common on to
> > some ethnic groups....World Health Organization in Switzerland will bear
> > testimony to this fact.
>
>David, I only know of two valid forensic tests at Birkenau. Both were done
>by
>the highly respected Institute for Forensic Research, in Poland. The most
>recent, which was completed after the infamous "Leuchter report," may be
>read at
>nizkor, at
>http://www3.ca.nizkor.org/hweb/orgs/polish/institute-for-forensic-research/
>-
>
>Here's what these scientists (Fred Leuchter has no qualifications
>whatsoever in
>the physical sciences, by the way. Did you know that?) have to say in their
>concluding remarks:
>
>"In his reasoning Leuchter claims that the vestigial amounts of cyanide
>combinations detected by him in the materials from the chamber ruins are
>residues left after fumigations carried out in the Camp 'once, long ago'
>(Item
>14.004 of the Report).
>
>"This is refuted by the negative results of the examination of the control
>samples from living quarters, which are said to have been subjected to a
>single
>gassing, and the fact that in the period of fumigation of the Camp in
>connection
>with a typhoid epidemic in mid-1942 there were still no crematoria in the
>Birkenau Camp. The first crematorium (Crematorium II) was put to use as
>late as
>15 March 1943 and the others several months later."
>
>So, as you can see, the only forensic lab to test the facilities concludes
>that
>Leuchter's conclusions were quite wrong.

Of course the Jews will try and downplay the qualifications of Mr.
Leuchter.....But we know that he is quite qualified, and the tests he has
down are quite conclusive...Only delousing gasses were used....no poisionous
gasses were used on Jewish political prisoners.....case closed.

______________________________________________________

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Jew Agenda Against Aryans
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 07:49:35 CDT
From: "David Griffin" 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

>From: Herb Gorman 
>Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
>To: 13texan@egroups.com
>Subject: [13texan] Re: Jew Agenda Against Aryans
>Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:19:10 -0700
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>From 13texan-return-519-david_223 Mon Aug 30 17:09:58 1999
>Received: from [207.138.41.146] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id
>MHotMailB99467BD015FD82197E4CF8A29920B8B191; Mon Aug 30 17:09:58 1999
>Received: from [10.1.2.36] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 31 Aug 1999
>01:09:22 -0000
>Mailing-List: contact 13texan-owner@egroups.com
>X-Mailing-List: 13texan@egroups.com
>X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/13texan/
>Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-13texan@egroups.com
>Received: (qmail 19384 invoked from network); 31 Aug 1999 00:09:21 -0000
>Received: from ha1.rdc1.bc.wave.home.com (HELO mail.rdc1.bc.home.com)
>(24.2.10.66) by qg.egroups.com with SMTP; 31 Aug 1999 00:09:21 -0000
>Received: from home.com ([24.66.133.94]) by mail.rdc1.bc.home.com
>(InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with ESMTP id
><19990831000919.RPJN9566.mail.rdc1.bc.home.com@home.com> for
><13texan@egroups.com>; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 17:09:19 -0700
>Message-ID: <37CB116E.D640309E@home.com>
>X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I)
>X-Accept-Language: en
>References: <19990830104506.41301.qmail@hotmail.com>
>
>
>
>David Griffin wrote:
>
> > Actually, when the German Jews started their boycott of German products
>in
> > the early thirties; they had declared war on their own
>countrymen.....This
> > is why it is stated that the Jews that were concentrated were political
> > prisoners....They were enemies of Germany, and dealt with as such; not
> > because they were Jews, but becasue they were treasous.....They were
>dealt
> > with as any prisoner of war, political or otherwise; Jew or otherwise.
>
>And the 5.5 million murdered Jews that were not Germans... were they also
>"treasous," David? Infants at breast and all?

You assume a person is good because they are a Jew.....If the benefits of
hate-crime extend to all Jews, children and likewise, as in the California
shootings and in the Chicago shootings.....would not the infamy of Jewry
also extend to their prodginy?.....would not a treasonous Jew's children
also be treasounous?

David

______________________________________________________

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Belzec investigation - mass graves found
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 07:54:21 CDT
From: "David Griffin" 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

>From: Herb Gorman 
>Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
>To: 13texan@egroups.com
>Subject: [13texan] Re: Belzec investigation - mass graves found
>Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:24:49 -0700
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>From 13texan-return-521-david_223 Mon Aug 30 17:21:02 1999
>Received: from [207.138.41.146] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id
>MHotMailB994695100F3D82197A4CF8A2992378227; Mon Aug 30 17:21:02 1999
>Received: from [10.1.2.36] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 31 Aug 1999
>01:15:04 -0000
>Mailing-List: contact 13texan-owner@egroups.com
>X-Mailing-List: 13texan@egroups.com
>X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/13texan/
>Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-13texan@egroups.com
>Received: (qmail 23071 invoked from network); 31 Aug 1999 00:15:02 -0000
>Received: from ha1.rdc1.bc.wave.home.com (HELO mail.rdc1.bc.home.com)
>(24.2.10.66) by qg.egroups.com with SMTP; 31 Aug 1999 00:15:02 -0000
>Received: from home.com ([24.66.133.94]) by mail.rdc1.bc.home.com
>(InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with ESMTP id
><19990831001502.RSGS9566.mail.rdc1.bc.home.com@home.com> for
><13texan@egroups.com>; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 17:15:02 -0700
>Message-ID: <37CB12C1.88EB14F1@home.com>
>X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I)
>X-Accept-Language: en
>References: <19990830133925.31380.qmail@hotmail.com>
>
>
>
>David Griffin wrote:
>
> > There is no proof of any "know extermination camp"....and you are
> > hard-pressed to produce any.
>
>That's interesting, David. What do you think about the recent Belzec
>investigations, which identified the 33 mass graves, human remains, human
>ash,
>burnt, partially burnt and unburnt human bone, burnt and putrid human fat
>layers
>several inches thick, stuff like that?
>
>When you couple the findings of the archeological team with the testimony
>from
>German perpetrators, both at the time and decades later, then throw in the
>German railroad records and other Nazi documentation, I think you have a
>very
>solid case.
>
>What would you concsider "proof," David? Tell us what your standards of
>evidence
>are.
>

One shread of evidence....One written communication from one German officer
to another...in a country of 60 million people, that should be very easy to
produce....The Germans are very careful record-keepers....And it is not
practical to believe that everything was done word-of-mouth......Only
children believe in the holocaust....adults need proof.....Jews were
traitors that were concentrated...nothing more, nothing less...You still
have not proved that there was a concerted effort on the part of the Third
Riech to kill Jews.....and you have had over 50 years to do it...Time is
running out.

David

______________________________________________________

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: What is really going on here.
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 08:01:20 CDT
From: "David Griffin" 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

>From: SNEADSTER@aol.com
>Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
>To: 13texan@egroups.com
>Subject: [13texan] Re: What is really going on here.
>Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 21:14:22 EDT
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>From 13texan-return-528-david_223 Mon Aug 30 18:26:13 1999
>Received: from [207.138.41.146] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id
>MHotMailB994766C01EAD82197E3CF8A2992162D223; Mon Aug 30 18:26:13 1999
>Received: from [10.1.2.36] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 31 Aug 1999
>02:15:22 -0000
>Mailing-List: contact 13texan-owner@egroups.com
>X-Mailing-List: 13texan@egroups.com
>X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/13texan/
>Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-13texan@egroups.com
>Received: (qmail 5116 invoked from network); 31 Aug 1999 01:15:20 -0000
>Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by qh.egroups.com with SMTP;
>31 Aug 1999 01:15:20 -0000
>Received: from SNEADSTER@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v22.4.) id
>aHDTa09412 (4232) for <13texan@egroups.com>; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 21:14:32
>-0400 (EDT)
>Message-ID: 
>X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10
>
>In a message dated 8/30/99 4:06:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>philnancy@aol.com writes:
>
><< Even if true, one thing would have nothing to do with the other. Do you
>  have scriptural citation on this? There is no way the Lord I worship
>  would do anything but condemn the hatred of Jews I see expressed on
>  this list.
>
>  Philip Mathews
>   >>
>
>Philip,
>     Read the entire chapter of Hebrews 8. I have not seen or heard of any
>hatred on this list. As a matter of Fact these people have been patient
>with
>your sarcasm and snide remarks. To hate a lie is not to hate a person, and
>to
>trust a liar is a fool. You worship the Lord?  OK I will bite. Let's go for
>a
>conversion. Philip, are you Baptist, Nazarene, Catholic? Or are you into
>Judaism?
>Michael Snead
>14/88

Good question, Michael....Being a Catholic myself; we can't wait for Mr.
Mathew's answer.

David

______________________________________________________

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Burden of Proof
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 06:03:04 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=564
>
>
>
> >From: philnancy@aol.com
> >Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
> >To: 13texan@eGroups.com
> >Subject: [13texan] Re: Burden of Proof
> >Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 06:37:45 -0700
> >MIME-Version: 1.0
> >From 13texan-return-489-david_223 Mon Aug 30 06:38:55 1999
> >Received: from [207.138.41.146] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id
> >MHotMailB993D45A01B2D820F3ABCF8A29920C0017; Mon Aug 30 06:38:55 1999
> >Received: from [10.1.2.36] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 Aug 1999
> >14:37:54 -0000
> >Mailing-List: contact 13texan-owner@egroups.com
> >X-Mailing-List: 13texan@egroups.com
> >X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/13texan/
> >Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-13texan@eGroups.com
> >Received: (qmail 10765 invoked from network); 30 Aug 1999 13:37:52
-0000
> >Received: from mu.egroups.com (207.138.41.151) by qg.egroups.com
with SMTP;
> >30 Aug 1999 13:37:52 -0000
> >Received: from [10.1.2.7] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 Aug 1999
> >14:37:51 -0000
> >Message-ID: <7qe1f9$qb81@eGroups.com>
> >In-Reply-To:  <19990830122819.99866.qmail@hotmail.com>
> >User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.76
> >X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster
> >
> >philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
> >original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=507
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Jeanne-Marie Zimmerman" 
> > > >Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
> > > >To: 13texan@egroups.com
> > > >Subject: [13texan] Burden of Proof
> > > >Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 19:53:26 PDT
> > > >MIME-Version: 1.0
> > > >From 13texan-return-392-david_223 Fri Aug 27 19:54:06 1999
> > > >Received: from [207.138.41.146] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP
id
> > > >MHotMailB9909A060127D82197AACF8A29926E90140; Fri Aug 27 19:54:06
1999
> > > >Received: from [10.1.2.36] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 28 Aug
1999
> > > >03:53:28 -0000
> > > >Mailing-List: contact 13texan-owner@egroups.com
> > > >X-Mailing-List: 13texan@egroups.com
> > > >X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/13texan/
> > > >Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-13texan@egroups.com
> > > >Received: (qmail 12678 invoked from network); 28 Aug 1999
02:53:27
> >-0000
> > > >Received: from f214.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com)
(207.82.251.105)
> >by
> > > >qh.egroups.com with SMTP; 28 Aug 1999 02:53:27 -0000
> > > >Received: (qmail 13776 invoked by uid 0); 28 Aug 1999 02:53:26
-0000
> > > >Message-ID: <19990828025326.13775.qmail@hotmail.com>
> > > >Received: from 208.25.190.196 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri,
27
> >Aug
> > > >1999 19:53:26 PDT
> > > >X-Originating-IP: [208.25.190.196]
> > > >
> > > >Philip Mattews said:
> > > >You might as well ask him to prove the American Civil War
occurred.
> >The
> > > >Holocaust is a proven historical event, and the burden is on you
if
> >you
> > > >wish
> > > >to claim it didn't occur, just as it would be your burden if you
> >decided
> > > >the
> > > >Civil War never happened.
> > >
> > >
> > > Well, I know a fellow that states that he is Napolean; prove he's
not.
> > >
> >
> >Napolean lived and died long ago. Historical facts exist to prove
that,
> >as they  exist to prove the Holocaust. The fellow you know is
> >delusional.
> >
> >Philip Mathews
> >
>
> There must be some communicate...something to prove there was a
> holocaust.....besides just someone saying there was.....even the
figures
> census don't add up.....only a school-child would believe such
> nonsense......

Your contention that the Holocaust is proven just by someone saying so
is erroneous. The same kind of historical evidence exists for it as for
any other event which we know to have happened. A cursory look at the
subject would reveal the vast amounts and types of evidence historians
had at their disposal. Hundreds of thousands of Nazis documents,
diaries and speeches; the testimonies of hundreds of Nazi perpetrators
in dozens of trials in many different countries; the testimony of
survivors, some of whom worked as Sonderkommandos with the gruesome
task of emptying bodies from gas chambers and putting them into the
ovens; archeological excavations on camp sites and in other locations;
forensic studies on some of the remaining gas chambers; and much, much
more. The outrageous charge that this is all made up by some all
powerful conspiracy is, on the other hand, supported by not one piece
of evidence.

By the way, the census  figures do reflect the massive loss of Jewish
life during the Second World War.

>
> the jews were treasonous Germans, and had to be concentrated..

Nonsense. They weren't traitorous, and only 500,000 of Europe's 9+
million Jews lived in Germany. They were concentrated and then sent to
their death in death camps.

..many of them
> died in prison like any other treasonous citizens

They were murdered in the camps, which were not prisons, by gas,
shooting, disease caused by purposeful neglect, overwork, medical
experimentation, etc. The charge of treason is ludicrous, without
foundation, and even if true, no justification for the murder of 6
million.

....there is no pity for
> them; for they are doing the very same in other countries which they
have
> fled to today...

Absolutely untrue.

.so Jesus may have the same fate in store for them; for
> apparantly they have not learned that there is a price to pay for
treason.

Apparently you haven't learned not to invoke the name of Jesus to
buttress your prejudices. I assure you he does not share them.

Philip Mathews

>
> David
>
> ______________________________________________________

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: "Big Lie": Herb
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 06:07:29 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=565
>
>
>
> >From: philnancy@aol.com
> >Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
> >To: 13texan@eGroups.com
> >Subject: [13texan] Re: "Big Lie": Herb
> >Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 06:46:41 -0700
> >MIME-Version: 1.0
> >From 13texan-return-493-david_223 Mon Aug 30 06:51:14 1999
> >Received: from [207.138.41.146] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id
> >MHotMailB993D6EA010AD82197F3CF8A2992300097; Mon Aug 30 06:51:14 1999
> >Received: from [10.1.2.36] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 Aug 1999
> >14:46:53 -0000
> >Mailing-List: contact 13texan-owner@egroups.com
> >X-Mailing-List: 13texan@egroups.com
> >X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/13texan/
> >Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-13texan@eGroups.com
> >Received: (qmail 15123 invoked from network); 30 Aug 1999 13:46:49
-0000
> >Received: from mu.egroups.com (207.138.41.151) by qg.egroups.com
with SMTP;
> >30 Aug 1999 13:46:49 -0000
> >Received: from [10.1.2.7] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 Aug 1999
> >14:46:49 -0000
> >Message-ID: <7qe201$qbd6@eGroups.com>
> >In-Reply-To:  <19990830134411.70064.qmail@hotmail.com>
> >User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.76
> >X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster
> >
> >philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
> >original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=516
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: reiver@tca.net
> > > >Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
> > > >To: 13texan@egroups.com
> > > >Subject: [13texan] Re: "Big Lie": Herb
> > > >Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 23:15:11 -0000
> > > >MIME-Version: 1.0
> > > >From 13texan-return-409-david_223 Sat Aug 28 21:16:26 1999
> > > >Received: from [207.138.41.146] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP
id
> > > >MHotMailB991FE5000EED82197D7CF8A2992172F175; Sat Aug 28 21:16:26
1999
> > > >Received: from [10.1.2.36] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 Aug
1999
> > > >05:15:37 -0000
> > > >Mailing-List: contact 13texan-owner@egroups.com
> > > >X-Mailing-List: 13texan@egroups.com
> > > >X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/13texan/
> > > >Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-13texan@egroups.com
> > > >Received: (qmail 10289 invoked from network); 29 Aug 1999
04:15:35
> >-0000
> > > >Received: from mail.myriad.net (HELO newman.myriad.net)
> >(204.57.67.6) by
> > > >qh.egroups.com with SMTP; 29 Aug 1999 04:15:35 -0000
> > > >Received: from default (usr09-018.tca.net [208.180.3.18]) by
> > > >newman.myriad.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA30521 for
> > > ><13texan@egroups.com>; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 23:15:32 -0500
> > > >Message-Id: <199908290415.XAA30521@newman.myriad.net>
> > > >Priority: normal
> > > >In-reply-to: <7qaata$buv4@eGroups.com>
> > > >References: <19990827194758.69328.qmail@hotmail.com>
> > > >X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11)
> > > >
> > > >On 28 Aug 99, at 20:54, philnancy@aol.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > People who supported communism. It exists today in China,
with a
> > > > > population well in excess of 1 billion with nary a Jew, and in
> >Cuba,
> > > > > equally bereft of Jews.
> > >
> > > But Karl Marx was a Jew, as were 56 of the 59 politboro members in
> >Russia in
> > > 1935...and of the 3 that were not Jewish; they had Jewish
> >wives.....There is
> > > an old saying, "Scratch a Jew and you'll find a communist"
> >
> >
> >The fact that Karl Marx was a non practicing Jew doesn't mean
Communism
> >is a Jewish political system. I very much doubt your contention about
> >1935 and the Politboro composition. Any source for it?
> >
> >Philip Mathews
> >
>
> Were all the "6 million" practicing jews?..

Were the 60 million Russian Christians practicing Christians?

.and if they were not, then
> shouldn't they be excluded from the holocasut number, as we exclude
Marx, on
> the basis of his non-practicing status?

I'm not excluding him from anything. I'm only pointing out that your
attempt to connect Judaism with Communism is nonsense.

>
> As far as the Politboro composition; do you own leg-work man...It's
all
> there in your public library....it's not secret

Fine with me. If you wish to make unsupported statements and leave them
unsupported when asked, I think the proper conclusions can be drawn.

>
> At least we have to give Herr Hitler credit for thinning out the
communist
> ranks; and maybe God sent Herr Hitler for that very purpose.

So you wish death to all communists?  How Christian of you!

Philip Mathews

>
> David
>
> ______________________________________________________

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: What is really going on here.
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 06:13:11 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=566
>
>
>
> >From: philnancy@aol.com
> >Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
> >To: 13texan@eGroups.com
> >Subject: [13texan] Re: What is really going on here.
> >Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 09:43:33 -0700
> >MIME-Version: 1.0
> >From 13texan-return-499-david_223 Mon Aug 30 09:44:00 1999
> >Received: from [207.138.41.146] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id
> >MHotMailB993FF5C0137D821979FCF8A29928AC0144; Mon Aug 30 09:44:00 1999
> >Received: from [10.1.2.36] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 Aug 1999
> >17:43:41 -0000
> >Mailing-List: contact 13texan-owner@egroups.com
> >X-Mailing-List: 13texan@egroups.com
> >X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/13texan/
> >Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-13texan@eGroups.com
> >Received: (qmail 25401 invoked from network); 30 Aug 1999 16:43:36
-0000
> >Received: from mu.egroups.com (207.138.41.151) by qh.egroups.com
with SMTP;
> >30 Aug 1999 16:43:36 -0000
> >Received: from [10.1.2.7] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 Aug 1999
> >17:43:35 -0000
> >Message-ID: <7qecbl$qf9g@eGroups.com>
> >In-Reply-To:  <3760-37CA9DEF-31400@postoffice-101.iap.bryant.webtv.n
et>
> >User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.76
> >X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster
> >
> >philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
> >original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=522
> > > I do not believe that anyone should ever close his mind to new
> >knowledge
> > > and i don't want to offend anyone but regarding the holocaust
there
> >are
> > > extremes on both sides.  When i was growing up i was PROGRAMED to
> > > BELIEVE that anyone that believed that the holocaust didn't
happen was
> > > an idiot.
> >
> >
> >And I was programmed to believe the same thing of people who denied
> >proven history. Why is it that this historical event dealing with the
> >murder of 6 million Jews is the only one whose occurrence is denied.
No
> >similar denial movement exists for the genocide of Armenians, or the
> >Soviet Gulag, or the Cambodian slaughter by Pol Pot. And why is there
> >such a close correlation between this irrational denial and the
hatred
> >of Jews? There is no extreme side of historical fact, the denial of
> >which is by definition extreme.
> >
> >
> >
> >  They would always put some skinhead or person that was weird
> > > on the television and they would never ever give a reason that
made
> >any
> > > sense on why they believed or SUPPOSEDLY BELIEVED  about the
> >holocaust.
> > > And  the holocaust was always portrayed as NEVER HAPPENING and the
> > > people were always LOUD, IRRATIONABLE AND FULL OF HATE!!!  When
i was
> > > growing up i was also taught that the jews were GOD'S CHOSEN
PEOPLE.
> > > Here in Alabama where i live our newly elected CLOSET JEW  DON
> >SIEGELMAN
> > > and his OPENLY JEW wife have now passed a law that the holocaust
must
> >be
> > > extensivly taught and studied in Alabama public schools.
> >
> >Neither the GOvernor nor his wife have the authority to pass a law.
The
> >law sounds like a good one. THe historical, political, philosophical,
> >military, and moral teachings to be garnered are exceptional.
> >
> >
> >  I DON'T GIVE A
> > > DAMN ABOUT WHETHER THE HOLOCAUST OR THE CIVIL WAR HAPPENED OR
NOT!!
> >As
> > > an adult i've studied BOTH SIDES  of the issue instead of ONE.
> >
> >There are not two sides to historical fact. The other side of fact is
> >fantasy. Not caring whether our children learn history is curious.
> >
> >
> >
> >And the
> > > number one thing  that i've learned is THE PLAIN TRUTH ABOUT THE
> >JEWS!!!
> > > THEY ARE LIARS AND ANTICHRISTS. And no  jew is ever going to
convince
> > > me of any thing to the contrary because unlike the holocaust i
don't
> > > have to depend on others for my information.
> >
> >
> >I think the most common reason for Holocaust Denial has been
revealed.
> >And you are wrong, everyone has to depend on others for information.
> >It's just a question of whether the information is factual or not.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  It is self evident by what
> > > i can see and hear. I don't have to accept it on faith.
> > > No one should be on this list to prove the holocaust happened.
For
> >the
> > > same reason no one should be on this list to prove the jews are
god's
> > > chosen people. These are THEIR issues not OURS.
> >
> >Who is they and who is us? This is a history discussion, and the last
> >time I checked you didn't make the rules.
> >
> >
> >  There is nothing wrong
> > > with reasonable discussion. But when someone tries to prove that
jews
> > > are anything but liars. (AND THAT IS REALLY THE SUBJECT HERE) Its
time
> > > to quit responding and press DELETE, DELETE, DELETE ETC... I know
that
> > > not everybody on this list believes the same
> >
> >Ah, so you define reasonable discussion as agreeing with your
> >prejudices.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > thing and we don't have to. But there are certain things that
bind us
> > > together. There are reasons we are on this list that bind us
together.
> > > PROVING THE HOLOCAUST HAPPENED IS NOT ONE OF THEM. This is where
> >people
> > > come to get the information that is suppressed in the mainstream.
> > > Whether they believe it or not is their right but any discussion
> >should
> > > never get started from SOMEONE TRYING TO JAM THE OPPOSING DOCTRINE
> >DOWN
> > > OUR THROATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> >
> >Discussing issues, even ones you find problematic, is not an attempt
to
> >jam something down your throat. But people who disagree with you
have a
> >right to be heard. As the saying goes, you have a right to your own
> >opinions, but not to your own facts.
> >
> >
> >
> >  Let us not forget that their purpose is to
> > > divide and to keep us from learning the meatier  matters. Do not
> >forget
> > > that the bible says (AND THIS IS SOMETHING YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE
ON
> > > FAITH) in the book of Job that WHEN EVER THE SONS OF GOD ARE
GATHERED
> > > TOGETHER THERE SHALL SATAN(THE ADVERSARY) BE ALSO AMONG THEM. We
don't
> > > have to get rid of the adversary because we don't like what they
are
> > > saying. We can learn from our adversaries to become wise as
serpents
> >but
> > > harmless as doves.
> >
> >The Bible provides no sanctuary for those who would hate Jews.
> >
> >Philip Mathews
>
> Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ,
hath not
> God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the
Father and
> the Son.
>    If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive
him not
> into your house, neither bid him God speed:
>    For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.
>
>
> We can see that for a Christian to receive a Jew into his house is a
very
> grave sin against God.....For the Jews are the anti-Christ, and to
bid them
> God speed is to become a partaker of their evil deeds.

A biblical citation would have been nice. At any rate the passage as
stated has nothing to do with Jews, it applies equally well to anyone
not truly abiding by  the doctrine of Christ. Your interpretation that
the passage means Jews are the anti-Christ is nonsense. Where do you
get these ideas?

>
> This is what the blessed Luther taught, and this is what all good
> Christians, must believe and practice.

Hardly. Are you telling me you would not receive a Buddist or Moslem
into your home?

Philip Mathews

>
>
> ______________________________________________________

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: "Big Lie": Herb
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 06:18:15 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=567
>
>
>
> >From: philnancy@aol.com
> >Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
> >To: 13texan@eGroups.com
> >Subject: [13texan] Re: "Big Lie": Herb
> >Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 13:23:18 -0700
> >MIME-Version: 1.0
> >From 13texan-return-509-david_223 Mon Aug 30 13:25:47 1999
> >Received: from [207.138.41.146] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id
> >MHotMailB99432750198D82197E6CF8A29924BDD136; Mon Aug 30 13:25:47 1999
> >Received: from [10.1.2.36] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 Aug 1999
> >21:23:28 -0000
> >Mailing-List: contact 13texan-owner@egroups.com
> >X-Mailing-List: 13texan@egroups.com
> >X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/13texan/
> >Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-13texan@eGroups.com
> >Received: (qmail 4290 invoked from network); 30 Aug 1999 20:23:26
-0000
> >Received: from mu.egroups.com (207.138.41.151) by qg.egroups.com
with SMTP;
> >30 Aug 1999 20:23:26 -0000
> >Received: from [10.1.2.7] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 Aug 1999
> >21:23:25 -0000
> >Message-ID: <7qep7m$thha@eGroups.com>
> >In-Reply-To:  <2f441168.24fc3f90@aol.com>
> >User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.76
> >X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster
> >
> >philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
> >original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=531
> > > In a message dated 8/30/99 9:48:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > > philnancy@aol.com writes:
> > >
> > > << The fact that Karl Marx was a non practicing Jew doesn't mean
> >Communism
> > >  is a Jewish political system. I very much doubt your contention
about
> > >  1935 and the Politboro composition. Any source for it?
> > >
> > >  Philip Mathews >>
> > >
> > >
> > > My Awakening by David Duke 1998...This book will give you more
> >references
> > > than you would care to read.
> >
> >David Duke is bereft of any knowledge, education, or insight that
would
> >interest me. Mr. Duke is hardly an expert on communism or political
> >philosophy.  His opinions are based on his racism and hatred, not
> >learning.
>
>
> And when the talmud states that it is ok for Jews to have sex with 3
year
> old little girls, what is that based
> on?...education?...learning?...knowledge?..

Believing that is based on gross ignorance and hate. You might as well
quote me passages on the existence of UFO's and body snatching.

..then if we apply the same test
> to the Jews, as you have applied to Mr. Duke;

Their is no Jew applied test to Mr. Duke. His opinions and lies are
repulsive to the vast majority of Americans of all stripes. He's an
uneducated, hateful fool, who traffics in the devils work.

then should we even speak to a
> Jew; given their filthy Satantic religion??

You have already exhibited a warped view of their religion, the one
which gave rise to Christianity.

Philip Mathews

>
> David
>
> ______________________________________________________

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Receive him not into your home
Date: 31 Aug 99 08:32:04 CDT
From: Bill Hoyt 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

"Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not
God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and
the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him
not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God
speed is partaker of his evil deeds." -- 2John 9-11

>>We can see that for a Christian to receive a Jew into his house is
>>a very grave sin against God.....For the Jews are the anti-Christ,
>>and to bid them God speed is to become a partaker of their evil deeds.

philnancy@aol.com wrote:

>A biblical citation would have been nice. At any rate the passage as
>stated has nothing to do with Jews, it applies equally well to anyone
>not truly abiding by  the doctrine of Christ.

The epistle of 2John was written to "The Elect Lady and her children", and has
historically been understood to refer to a church which met within the home of
the elect lady.  As such, it is to be interpreted in that context.

When John says not to invite deceivers into "your house", he is talking not
about inviting people into individual homes, which would make it very
difficult to carry out the great commission, but he is talking about allowing
false teachers to teach in the church, which in this case, met in her home.

We do not always know "the doctrine" of those who come into our homes
individually (do you ask the phone repairman if he holds to the doctrine of
Christ before you let him look at the phone?), but we must be certain that
those who teach a doctrine within the church and with the authority of the
church hold steadfastly to the doctrine of Christ.

____________________________________________________________________
Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Belzec investigation - mass graves found
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 06:36:41 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=568
>
>
>
> >From: philnancy@aol.com
> >Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
> >To: 13texan@eGroups.com
> >Subject: [13texan] Re: Belzec investigation - mass graves found
> >Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 13:27:16 -0700
> >MIME-Version: 1.0
> >From 13texan-return-510-david_223 Mon Aug 30 13:28:47 1999
> >Received: from [207.138.41.146] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id
> >MHotMailB9943420010ED82197BECF8A29926B2E94; Mon Aug 30 13:28:47 1999
> >Received: from [10.1.2.36] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 Aug 1999
> >21:27:38 -0000
> >Mailing-List: contact 13texan-owner@egroups.com
> >X-Mailing-List: 13texan@egroups.com
> >X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/13texan/
> >Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-13texan@eGroups.com
> >Received: (qmail 6104 invoked from network); 30 Aug 1999 20:27:31
-0000
> >Received: from mu.egroups.com (207.138.41.151) by qg.egroups.com
with SMTP;
> >30 Aug 1999 20:27:31 -0000
> >Received: from [10.1.2.7] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 Aug 1999
> >21:27:21 -0000
> >Message-ID: <7qepf4$pjur@eGroups.com>
> >In-Reply-To:  
> >User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.76
> >X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster
> >
> >philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
> >original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=532
> > > In a message dated 8/30/99 9:51:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > > david_223@hotmail.com writes:
> > >
> > > << Well then, would the
> > >  concentration of Jews by the Third Reich also be retaliation for
the
> >murders
> > >  of our brethren, Michael?..Father Coughlin spoke some on this
> >subject.
> > >
> > >  Hail Jesus' Victory!
> > >  David
> > >
> > >  ______________________________________________________ >>
> > >
> > > David, so true and very well said.....Michael
> >
> >
> >How are the 6 million innocent Jews killed by the Nazis, including
> >women and children, responsible for murdering anyone?
> >
> >Philip Mathews
>
>
>
> The Jews of Germany in the 30's were bent on destroying their own
> country....not another's country; but their own, mind you..

That is false. The Jews of Germany had been part of that nation's
culture, making valuable contributions for 400 years. And the Holocaust
involves 6 million Jews from all over Europe, not just the 500,000 or
so who lived in Germany. You begin with a basic misunderstanding of the
situation.

..this makes them
> traitors to their country; and they were jailed, concentrated,
detained,
> whatever anyone wants to call it....perfectly acceptable
punishment....and
> we will see the same thing happen again....just watch and wait for
it....for
> the Jew has still not learned that one must be loyal to their county;
or
> they must pay the penalty.

Jews are no less loyal to their countries than anyone else.

Philip Mathews

>
> David
>
> ______________________________________________________

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: What is really going on here.
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 23:37:01 +1000
From: "Frank Dowsett" 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: <13texan@egroups.com>

You will find it in Malachi 1:1-3, and Romans 9:13.
Frank.
-----Original Message-----
From: Charles 
To: 13texan@egroups.com <13texan@egroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 12:59
Subject: [13texan] Re: What is really going on here.

>There is a virse in the bible where it says God hated
>Easus can anyone remember that the virse is?
>My point is, no matter how liberal a "christian" can
>get do they thing God expects you to do something he
>would not ?
>---
>
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
>http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications
>
>
>
>

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Zyklon-B:Jewish Development
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 06:40:55 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=572
>
>
>
> >From: Herb Gorman 
> >Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
> >To: 13texan@egroups.com
> >Subject: [13texan] Re: Zyklon-B:Jewish Development
> >Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:17:56 -0700
> >MIME-Version: 1.0
> >From 13texan-return-518-david_223 Mon Aug 30 17:09:26 1999
> >Received: from [207.138.41.146] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id
> >MHotMailB994680B00A0D820F3B6CF8A2992149044; Mon Aug 30 17:09:26 1999
> >Received: from [10.1.2.36] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 31 Aug 1999
> >01:08:05 -0000
> >Mailing-List: contact 13texan-owner@egroups.com
> >X-Mailing-List: 13texan@egroups.com
> >X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/13texan/
> >Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-13texan@egroups.com
> >Received: (qmail 18471 invoked from network); 31 Aug 1999 00:08:03
-0000
> >Received: from ha1.rdc1.bc.wave.home.com (HELO mail.rdc1.bc.home.com
)
> >(24.2.10.66) by qg.egroups.com with SMTP; 31 Aug 1999 00:08:03 -0000
> >Received: from home.com ([24.66.133.94]) by mail.rdc1.bc.home.com
> >(InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with ESMTP id
> ><19990831000802.ROTV9566.mail.rdc1.bc.home.com@home.com> for
> ><13texan@egroups.com>; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 17:08:02 -0700
> >Message-ID: <37CB1124.4360ABA1@home.com>
> >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I)
> >X-Accept-Language: en
> >References: <19990830104022.57375.qmail@hotmail.com>
> >
> >
> >
> >David Griffin wrote:
> >
> > > No deadly gasses were used on Jewish political prisoners....Many
tests
> >have
> > > been done of the facilities at Aushwitz and Daukau....No proof of
deadly
> > > gasses, including cyanide, being used. ..Parasites are very
common on to
> > > some ethnic groups....World Health Organization in Switzerland
will bear
> > > testimony to this fact.
> >
> >David, I only know of two valid forensic tests at Birkenau. Both
were done
> >by
> >the highly respected Institute for Forensic Research, in Poland. The
most
> >recent, which was completed after the infamous "Leuchter report,"
may be
> >read at
> >nizkor, at
> >http://www3.ca.nizkor.org/hweb/orgs/polish/institute-for-forensic-re
search/
> >-
> >
> >Here's what these scientists (Fred Leuchter has no qualifications
> >whatsoever in
> >the physical sciences, by the way. Did you know that?) have to say
in their
> >concluding remarks:
> >
> >"In his reasoning Leuchter claims that the vestigial amounts of
cyanide
> >combinations detected by him in the materials from the chamber ruins
are
> >residues left after fumigations carried out in the Camp 'once, long
ago'
> >(Item
> >14.004 of the Report).
> >
> >"This is refuted by the negative results of the examination of the
control
> >samples from living quarters, which are said to have been subjected
to a
> >single
> >gassing, and the fact that in the period of fumigation of the Camp
in
> >connection
> >with a typhoid epidemic in mid-1942 there were still no crematoria
in the
> >Birkenau Camp. The first crematorium (Crematorium II) was put to use
as
> >late as
> >15 March 1943 and the others several months later."
> >
> >So, as you can see, the only forensic lab to test the facilities
concludes
> >that
> >Leuchter's conclusions were quite wrong.
>
>
> Of course the Jews will try and downplay the qualifications of Mr.
> Leuchter.....But we know that he is quite qualified, and the tests he
has
> down are quite conclusive...Only delousing gasses were used....no
poisionous
> gasses were used on Jewish political prisoners.....case closed.
>

Apparently you are not even familiar with the fraudulent Leuchter
report. Leuchter never claims the delousing gases weren't poisonous to
humans. In fact,  the gas used to kill vermin is even more deadly to
humans. No one is trying to downplay his qualifications, he merely
doesn't have any. The Jews were not political prisoners, they were
targets of genocide.

Philip Mathews

>
> ______________________________________________________

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Belzec investigation - mass graves found
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 07:00:57 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=574
>
>
>
> >From: Herb Gorman 
> >Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
> >To: 13texan@egroups.com
> >Subject: [13texan] Re: Belzec investigation - mass graves found
> >Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:24:49 -0700
> >MIME-Version: 1.0
> >From 13texan-return-521-david_223 Mon Aug 30 17:21:02 1999
> >Received: from [207.138.41.146] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id
> >MHotMailB994695100F3D82197A4CF8A2992378227; Mon Aug 30 17:21:02 1999
> >Received: from [10.1.2.36] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 31 Aug 1999
> >01:15:04 -0000
> >Mailing-List: contact 13texan-owner@egroups.com
> >X-Mailing-List: 13texan@egroups.com
> >X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/13texan/
> >Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-13texan@egroups.com
> >Received: (qmail 23071 invoked from network); 31 Aug 1999 00:15:02
-0000
> >Received: from ha1.rdc1.bc.wave.home.com (HELO mail.rdc1.bc.home.com
)
> >(24.2.10.66) by qg.egroups.com with SMTP; 31 Aug 1999 00:15:02 -0000
> >Received: from home.com ([24.66.133.94]) by mail.rdc1.bc.home.com
> >(InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with ESMTP id
> ><19990831001502.RSGS9566.mail.rdc1.bc.home.com@home.com> for
> ><13texan@egroups.com>; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 17:15:02 -0700
> >Message-ID: <37CB12C1.88EB14F1@home.com>
> >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I)
> >X-Accept-Language: en
> >References: <19990830133925.31380.qmail@hotmail.com>
> >
> >
> >
> >David Griffin wrote:
> >
> > > There is no proof of any "know extermination camp"....and you are
> > > hard-pressed to produce any.
> >
> >That's interesting, David. What do you think about the recent Belzec
> >investigations, which identified the 33 mass graves, human remains,
human
> >ash,
> >burnt, partially burnt and unburnt human bone, burnt and putrid
human fat
> >layers
> >several inches thick, stuff like that?
> >
> >When you couple the findings of the archeological team with the
testimony
> >from
> >German perpetrators, both at the time and decades later, then throw
in the
> >German railroad records and other Nazi documentation, I think you
have a
> >very
> >solid case.
> >
> >What would you concsider "proof," David? Tell us what your standards
of
> >evidence
> >are.
> >
>
>
> One shread of evidence....One written communication from one German
officer
> to another...in a country of 60 million people, that should be very
easy to
> produce....The Germans are very careful record-keepers..

There are substantial numbers of documents, diaries and speeches. Here
are just two or three examples.

Two entries from Goebbels Diary:

February 14, 1942: The Führer once again expressed his determination to
clean                     up the Jews in Europe pitilessly. There must
be no squeamish                    sentimentalism about it. The Jews
have deserved the                    catastrophe that has now overtaken
them. Their destruction
                   will go hand in hand with the destruction of our
enemies. We                    must hasten this process with cold
ruthlessness.

March 27, 1942: The procedure is a pretty barbaric one and not to be
                       described here more definitely. Not much will
remain of the                    Jews. On the whole it can be said that
about 60 per cent of                 them will have to be liquidated
whereas only 40 per cent can be                 used for forced labor.

Himmler's speech at Posen on October 4, 1943 was captured on audiotape
(Trial of the Major War Criminals, 1948, Vol. XXIX, p. 145, trans. by
current author):

          I refer now to the evacuation of the Jews, the extermination
of the Jewish people. This is one of those things that is easily said:
"the Jewish people are being exterminated," says every Party member,
"quite true, it's part of our plans, the elimination of the Jews,
extermination, we're doing it."

..And it is not
> practical to believe that everything was done word-of-mouth......Only
> children believe in the holocaust....adults need proof.

Which is abundant for those not sticking their heads in the ground,
which is why only a tiny fringe refuses to accept the historical fact.

....Jews were
> traitors that were concentrated...nothing more, nothing less...You
still
> have not proved that there was a concerted effort on the part of the
Third
> Riech to kill Jews.....and you have had over 50 years to do it...Time
is
> running out.

They were not traitors, and they were concentrated and then killed
because they were Jews. The evidence for this has been extant for over
half a century!

Philip Mathews

>
> David
>
> ______________________________________________________

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] new topic, just to make things interesting
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 08:20:32 PDT
From: "- Herodotus -" 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com, silencer20@hotmail.com

        It's not often that I post to this list, generally I "lurk". :)  But I
would like to express my appreciation to sisters Colleen and Jeanne-Marie,
and brothers Eddie, David and Michael, and of course, pastor Willie.
There's iron in your words of wisdom, and it does not go unnoticed.

        I saw this review of the movie "Anastasia" on a nonracialist website, and
had to laugh my head off!
        "Romulan, Toronto, Canada: 10 May 1999: Americans do it again!  I just
watched the 1997 movie "Anastasia" on a recently released laser disc
pressing. You  know, I never cease to be amazed by the cavalier attitude
with which the American  entertainment industry treats other cultures and
values. The opening words of the film say it all  "There was a time, not
very long ago, when we lived in an enchanted world of elegant palaces  and
grand parties. The year was nineteen-hundred and sixteen and my son Nicholas
was the Tsar of Imperial Russia."  What is ever-so-conveniently never
mentioned is that this "enchanted world of elegant palaces and grand
parties" was created by a repressive and reactionary  aristocracy at the
expense of unimagined misery for untold millions of peasants and workers.
And when that repression finally reached its explosive breaking point in
1917, the movie circumvents and trivializes it by introducing preposterously
supernatural causes, without a hint  of any underlying social injustice.  Of
course, Fox Studios defended itself by pointing out that it was in no way
dramatizing historical events, but was intent upon creating a children's
fantasy.  But I have to wonder how Americans would react if a Russian film
company marketed an  animated children's fantasy about America's old South
as an "enchanted world of elegant  plantations and grand parties", a world
that is rudely shattered when the "vile" abolitionist John  Brown, who has
supposedly struck an unholy alliance with Lucifer and the bluecoat brigades
of Abraham Lincoln, interrupts a grand ball thrown by the genteel President
Jefferson Davis at  Richmond, Virginia, to celebrate the investiture of the
gallant General Robert E. Lee as the  commander of army of the newly born
Confederate States of America. With a satanic leer from  within a swirling
cloud glowing in venomous green, John Brown spews out an apocalyptic  curse
of upon the cream of Southern gentry and their fledgling Confederacy. What a
  breathtakingly dramatic vision for the root causes of the American Civil
War with which to  impress young inquisitive minds, eh? But what about the
reaction of the [negroes] whose ancestors paid for this "enchanted world of
elegant plantations and grand parties" with  generations of harsh bondage,
to say nothing of today's legions of Civil War buffs and local  historical
boards on both sides of the Mason-Dixon line? Why, no problem! Just imagine
their collective sigh of relief after they are comforted by a spokesperson
of the Moscow movie mogul with some soothing remark like, "Now, folks,
relax. Our film is definitely not depicting  historical facts.  It's just a
fairy tale for kids." It's amazing how a reassuring explanation like that
can make all the difference in the world!"

        Actually, I'd like to see just such a Civil War cartoon, just to keep
things balanced.  I mean, if they can make "Schindler's List" and other
fiction...  How about you? ;)

Yours in Christ,
Chris
***********************************
"'...The house of Jacob will be a fire and the house of
Joseph a flame; the house of Esau will be stubble, and they
will set it on fire and consume it.  There will be no
survivors from the house of Esau.'  The Lord has spoken."
Obadiah 18

______________________________________________________

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: What is really going on here.
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 12:39:00 -0400
From: Charles 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

philnancy@aol.com wrote:
>
> Response to Charles' antisemitic Ritual Murder Canard

  Excuse me, but because you don't know better I will explain
  I am a simite! True I don't care for jew lies but this is
  America and I have freedom of speech.   Charles

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: What is really going on here.
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 09:46:57 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=586
> philnancy@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > Response to Charles' antisemitic Ritual Murder Canard
>
>   Excuse me, but because you don't know better I will explain
>   I am a simite!

What is a simite?

> True I don't care for jew lies

There is no such thing as jew lies. Your use of the term bespeaks
unchristian values.

 but this is
>   America and I have freedom of speech.

As do I. Live with it.

Philip Mathews

 Charles

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] who/what shemite/semitic
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 12:47:59 -0400
From: Charles 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

Anti-Semitism: The word anti-Semitism was an invention; H.H.
Beamish, in a New York address, October 30 - November 1, 1937:
"In 1848 the word ‘anti-Semitic' was invented by the Jews to
prevent the use of the word ‘Jew.' The right word for them is
‘Jew'"

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
- FROM THE FUNK&WAGNALL DICTIONARY -

Sem-Ite (sem'it, se'mlt) n. I A person believed
to be or considered as a descendant of Shem.
2 One of a people of Caucasian stock, now
represented by the Jews and Arabs, but
originally including the ancient Babylonians,
Assyrlans, Arameans, Phoenicians, etc.
Also
Shemite. [ Anti-Semitism: The word anti-Semitism was an invention;

All words are invented.

H.H.
> Beamish, in a New York address, October 30 - November 1, 1937:
> "In 1848 the word ‘anti-Semitic' was invented by the Jews to
> prevent the use of the word ‘Jew.' The right word for them is
> ‘Jew'"

Words are not defined by groups. This is an outright lie. Antisemite
means hater of Jews.

Philip Mathews

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: What is really going on here.
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:08:36 -0400
From: Charles 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

Phil the jew lie I am speaking of is the lie that
the KHAZAR jew are the people who were written about
in the Bible.

Now go argue with the jews at khazaria.com please!

I will have no more...........

Charles

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Burden of Proof
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:38:59 CDT
From: "David Griffin" 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

>From: philnancy@aol.com
>Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
>To: 13texan@eGroups.com
>Subject: [13texan] Re: Burden of Proof
>Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 06:03:04 -0700
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>From 13texan-return-552-david_223 Tue Aug 31 06:04:08 1999
>Received: from [207.138.41.146] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id
>MHotMailB9951D6301BCD820F3ACCF8A2992254776; Tue Aug 31 06:04:08 1999
>Received: from [10.1.2.36] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 31 Aug 1999
>14:03:16 -0000
>Mailing-List: contact 13texan-owner@egroups.com
>X-Mailing-List: 13texan@egroups.com
>X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/13texan/
>Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-13texan@eGroups.com
>Received: (qmail 5888 invoked from network); 31 Aug 1999 13:03:12 -0000
>Received: from mu.egroups.com (207.138.41.151) by qg.egroups.com with SMTP;
>31 Aug 1999 13:03:12 -0000
>Received: from [10.1.2.7] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 31 Aug 1999
>14:03:12 -0000
>Message-ID: <7qgjq8$q4eo@eGroups.com>
>In-Reply-To:  <19990831114159.64712.qmail@hotmail.com>
>User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.76
>X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster
>
>philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
>original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=564
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: philnancy@aol.com
> > >Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
> > >To: 13texan@eGroups.com
> > >Subject: [13texan] Re: Burden of Proof
> > >Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 06:37:45 -0700
> > >MIME-Version: 1.0
> > >From 13texan-return-489-david_223 Mon Aug 30 06:38:55 1999
> > >Received: from [207.138.41.146] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id
> > >MHotMailB993D45A01B2D820F3ABCF8A29920C0017; Mon Aug 30 06:38:55 1999
> > >Received: from [10.1.2.36] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 Aug 1999
> > >14:37:54 -0000
> > >Mailing-List: contact 13texan-owner@egroups.com
> > >X-Mailing-List: 13texan@egroups.com
> > >X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/13texan/
> > >Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-13texan@eGroups.com
> > >Received: (qmail 10765 invoked from network); 30 Aug 1999 13:37:52
>-0000
> > >Received: from mu.egroups.com (207.138.41.151) by qg.egroups.com
>with SMTP;
> > >30 Aug 1999 13:37:52 -0000
> > >Received: from [10.1.2.7] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 Aug 1999
> > >14:37:51 -0000
> > >Message-ID: <7qe1f9$qb81@eGroups.com>
> > >In-Reply-To:  <19990830122819.99866.qmail@hotmail.com>
> > >User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.76
> > >X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster
> > >
> > >philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
> > >original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=507
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: "Jeanne-Marie Zimmerman" 
> > > > >Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
> > > > >To: 13texan@egroups.com
> > > > >Subject: [13texan] Burden of Proof
> > > > >Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 19:53:26 PDT
> > > > >MIME-Version: 1.0
> > > > >From 13texan-return-392-david_223 Fri Aug 27 19:54:06 1999
> > > > >Received: from [207.138.41.146] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP
>id
> > > > >MHotMailB9909A060127D82197AACF8A29926E90140; Fri Aug 27 19:54:06
>1999
> > > > >Received: from [10.1.2.36] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 28 Aug
>1999
> > > > >03:53:28 -0000
> > > > >Mailing-List: contact 13texan-owner@egroups.com
> > > > >X-Mailing-List: 13texan@egroups.com
> > > > >X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/13texan/
> > > > >Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-13texan@egroups.com
> > > > >Received: (qmail 12678 invoked from network); 28 Aug 1999
>02:53:27
> > >-0000
> > > > >Received: from f214.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com)
>(207.82.251.105)
> > >by
> > > > >qh.egroups.com with SMTP; 28 Aug 1999 02:53:27 -0000
> > > > >Received: (qmail 13776 invoked by uid 0); 28 Aug 1999 02:53:26
>-0000
> > > > >Message-ID: <19990828025326.13775.qmail@hotmail.com>
> > > > >Received: from 208.25.190.196 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri,
>27
> > >Aug
> > > > >1999 19:53:26 PDT
> > > > >X-Originating-IP: [208.25.190.196]
> > > > >
> > > > >Philip Mattews said:
> > > > >You might as well ask him to prove the American Civil War
>occurred.
> > >The
> > > > >Holocaust is a proven historical event, and the burden is on you
>if
> > >you
> > > > >wish
> > > > >to claim it didn't occur, just as it would be your burden if you
> > >decided
> > > > >the
> > > > >Civil War never happened.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Well, I know a fellow that states that he is Napolean; prove he's
>not.
> > > >
> > >
> > >Napolean lived and died long ago. Historical facts exist to prove
>that,
> > >as they  exist to prove the Holocaust. The fellow you know is
> > >delusional.
> > >
> > >Philip Mathews
> > >
> >
> > There must be some communicate...something to prove there was a
> > holocaust.....besides just someone saying there was.....even the
>figures
> > census don't add up.....only a school-child would believe such
> > nonsense......
>
>Your contention that the Holocaust is proven just by someone saying so
>is erroneous. The same kind of historical evidence exists for it as for
>any other event which we know to have happened. A cursory look at the
>subject would reveal the vast amounts and types of evidence historians
>had at their disposal. Hundreds of thousands of Nazis documents,
>diaries and speeches; the testimonies of hundreds of Nazi perpetrators
>in dozens of trials in many different countries; the testimony of
>survivors, some of whom worked as Sonderkommandos with the gruesome
>task of emptying bodies from gas chambers and putting them into the
>ovens; archeological excavations on camp sites and in other locations;
>forensic studies on some of the remaining gas chambers; and much, much
>more. The outrageous charge that this is all made up by some all
>powerful conspiracy is, on the other hand, supported by not one piece
>of evidence.
>
>By the way, the census  figures do reflect the massive loss of Jewish
>life during the Second World War.
>
>
> >
> > the jews were treasonous Germans, and had to be concentrated..
>
>
>Nonsense. They weren't traitorous, and only 500,000 of Europe's 9+
>million Jews lived in Germany. They were concentrated and then sent to
>their death in death camps.
>
>
>..many of them
> > died in prison like any other treasonous citizens
>
>They were murdered in the camps, which were not prisons, by gas,
>shooting, disease caused by purposeful neglect, overwork, medical
>experimentation, etc. The charge of treason is ludicrous, without
>foundation, and even if true, no justification for the murder of 6
>million.
>
>
>
>
>....there is no pity for
> > them; for they are doing the very same in other countries which they
>have
> > fled to today...
>
>
>Absolutely untrue.
>
>
>
>.so Jesus may have the same fate in store for them; for
> > apparantly they have not learned that there is a price to pay for
>treason.
>
>
>Apparently you haven't learned not to invoke the name of Jesus to
>buttress your prejudices. I assure you he does not share them.
>
>Philip Mathews

I believe Mr. Snead asked you what what religion you adheared to....did I
miss your answer?...your tone is defineately Jewish...which would account
for your support of His enemies.

David

______________________________________________________

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: "Big Lie": Herb
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:47:02 CDT
From: "David Griffin" 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

>From: philnancy@aol.com
>Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
>To: 13texan@eGroups.com
>Subject: [13texan] Re: "Big Lie": Herb
>Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 06:18:15 -0700
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>From 13texan-return-555-david_223 Tue Aug 31 06:23:40 1999
>Received: from [207.138.41.146] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id
>MHotMailB9951D820058D82197BFCF8A29922C81668; Tue Aug 31 06:23:40 1999
>Received: from [10.1.2.36] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 31 Aug 1999
>14:18:41 -0000
>Mailing-List: contact 13texan-owner@egroups.com
>X-Mailing-List: 13texan@egroups.com
>X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/13texan/
>Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-13texan@eGroups.com
>Received: (qmail 15126 invoked from network); 31 Aug 1999 13:18:36 -0000
>Received: from mu.egroups.com (207.138.41.151) by qg.egroups.com with SMTP;
>31 Aug 1999 13:18:36 -0000
>Received: from [10.1.2.7] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 31 Aug 1999
>14:18:29 -0000
>Message-ID: <7qgkmn$q4pl@eGroups.com>
>In-Reply-To:  <19990831121052.52338.qmail@hotmail.com>
>User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.76
>X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster
>
>philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
>original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=567
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: philnancy@aol.com
> > >Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
> > >To: 13texan@eGroups.com
> > >Subject: [13texan] Re: "Big Lie": Herb
> > >Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 13:23:18 -0700
> > >MIME-Version: 1.0
> > >From 13texan-return-509-david_223 Mon Aug 30 13:25:47 1999
> > >Received: from [207.138.41.146] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id
> > >MHotMailB99432750198D82197E6CF8A29924BDD136; Mon Aug 30 13:25:47 1999
> > >Received: from [10.1.2.36] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 Aug 1999
> > >21:23:28 -0000
> > >Mailing-List: contact 13texan-owner@egroups.com
> > >X-Mailing-List: 13texan@egroups.com
> > >X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/13texan/
> > >Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-13texan@eGroups.com
> > >Received: (qmail 4290 invoked from network); 30 Aug 1999 20:23:26
>-0000
> > >Received: from mu.egroups.com (207.138.41.151) by qg.egroups.com
>with SMTP;
> > >30 Aug 1999 20:23:26 -0000
> > >Received: from [10.1.2.7] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 Aug 1999
> > >21:23:25 -0000
> > >Message-ID: <7qep7m$thha@eGroups.com>
> > >In-Reply-To:  <2f441168.24fc3f90@aol.com>
> > >User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.76
> > >X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster
> > >
> > >philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
> > >original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=531
> > > > In a message dated 8/30/99 9:48:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > > > philnancy@aol.com writes:
> > > >
> > > > << The fact that Karl Marx was a non practicing Jew doesn't mean
> > >Communism
> > > >  is a Jewish political system. I very much doubt your contention
>about
> > > >  1935 and the Politboro composition. Any source for it?
> > > >
> > > >  Philip Mathews >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > My Awakening by David Duke 1998...This book will give you more
> > >references
> > > > than you would care to read.
> > >
> > >David Duke is bereft of any knowledge, education, or insight that
>would
> > >interest me. Mr. Duke is hardly an expert on communism or political
> > >philosophy.  His opinions are based on his racism and hatred, not
> > >learning.
> >
> >
> > And when the talmud states that it is ok for Jews to have sex with 3
>year
> > old little girls, what is that based
> > on?...education?...learning?...knowledge?..
>
>Believing that is based on gross ignorance and hate. You might as well
>quote me passages on the existence of UFO's and body snatching.
>
>
>
>..then if we apply the same test
> > to the Jews, as you have applied to Mr. Duke;
>
>Their is no Jew applied test to Mr. Duke. His opinions and lies are
>repulsive to the vast majority of Americans of all stripes. He's an
>uneducated, hateful fool, who traffics in the devils work.
>
>
>then should we even speak to a
> > Jew; given their filthy Satantic religion??
>
>You have already exhibited a warped view of their religion, the one
>which gave rise to Christianity.
>
>Philip Mathews
>

The only thinking warped is yours and that of your filthy talmud.....you are
an enemy of Christ, and that is obvious to all who have read what what you
have written...you and your lot will suffer the same fate you have
experienced in every other country which you have fled.

______________________________________________________

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: who/what shemite/semitic
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 17:17:01 -0600
From: Ed Kadach 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

At 10:42 AM 8/31/99 -0700, you wrote:
>philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
>original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=588
>> Anti-Semitism: The word anti-Semitism was an invention;
>
>All words are invented.

Just like the myth of the 4.5 million jews being gassed
was invented.

>
>
>H.H.
>> Beamish, in a New York address, October 30 - November 1, 1937:
>> "In 1848 the word ‘anti-Semitic' was invented by the Jews to
>> prevent the use of the word ‘Jew.' The right word for them is
>> ‘Jew'"
>
>Words are not defined by groups. This is an outright lie. Antisemite
>means hater of Jews.
>
>Philip Mathews

Antisemitism doesn't exist for the one reason I've tried to show you and
the other exterminationists on alt.revisionism repeatedly. There is no such
thing as a "Semitic race".
It's another lie that the jews have convinced the jewdeo-Christian
clergy to erroneously believe and to teach.

All that we revisionists and believers in Christ are doing is to show
you that "the truth is out there as are the facts." All that revisionists
and Christian believers are doing is finding them and letting the world know!

But then all "TRUTH is HATE to those WHO HATE the TRUTH", and you and your
Nizkook friends slip into that category rather easily.

Racialist regards,

Ed Kadach

Strictly speaking, it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite
a "Jew" or to call a contemporary Jew an "Israelite" or a "Hebrew".

                                       The 1980 Jewish Almanac

"All truth passes through three stages. First,
it is ridiculed; second it is violently opposed;
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
---Schopenhauer

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: What is really going on here.
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 17:23:25 -0600
From: Ed Kadach 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

At 09:46 AM 8/31/99 -0700, you wrote:
>philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
>original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=586
>> philnancy@aol.com wrote:
>> >
>> > Response to Charles' antisemitic Ritual Murder Canard



I really would like to know what is going on here?
Do you Nizkooks actually work for a living?  You
exterminationists are online all hours of the day
and the volume of mail from you just to this list
is quite monumental. I can't imagine what awaits
on some other lists.

Racialist regards,

Ed Kadach

>
>Philip Mathews
>
>
>
> Charles
>
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
>http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications
>
>
>
>
>
>

"All truth passes through three stages. First,
it is ridiculed; second it is violently opposed;
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
---Schopenhauer

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: What is really going on here.
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 18:08:03 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=590
> Phil the jew lie I am speaking of is the lie that
> the KHAZAR jew are the people who were written about
> in the Bible.

But there is no such lie and the entire fiction of Khazar has little
scholarly support.

>
> Now go argue with the jews at khazaria.com please!

Nope.
>
> I will have no more...........

I will.

Philip Mathews

>
> Charles

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Burden of Proof
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 18:23:56 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

David Griffin wrote:

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=597

>
> I believe Mr. Snead asked you what what religion you adheared
to....did I
> miss your answer?

You did not.

...your tone is defineately Jewish...which would account
> for your support of His enemies.

Your assumption is ignorant and antisemitic. I suspect He thinks you
are an ass. I'm sure He disavows your non Christian values.

Philip Mathews

>
> David
>
> ______________________________________________________

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: What is really going on here.
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 21:26:39 -0400
From: Charles 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

then philip you have it by yourself!

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: "Big Lie": Herb
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 18:28:30 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=598
>
>
>
> >From: philnancy@aol.com
> >Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
> >To: 13texan@eGroups.com
> >Subject: [13texan] Re: "Big Lie": Herb
> >Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 06:18:15 -0700
> >MIME-Version: 1.0
> >From 13texan-return-555-david_223 Tue Aug 31 06:23:40 1999
> >Received: from [207.138.41.146] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id
> >MHotMailB9951D820058D82197BFCF8A29922C81668; Tue Aug 31 06:23:40 1999
> >Received: from [10.1.2.36] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 31 Aug 1999
> >14:18:41 -0000
> >Mailing-List: contact 13texan-owner@egroups.com
> >X-Mailing-List: 13texan@egroups.com
> >X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/13texan/
> >Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-13texan@eGroups.com
> >Received: (qmail 15126 invoked from network); 31 Aug 1999 13:18:36
-0000
> >Received: from mu.egroups.com (207.138.41.151) by qg.egroups.com
with SMTP;
> >31 Aug 1999 13:18:36 -0000
> >Received: from [10.1.2.7] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 31 Aug 1999
> >14:18:29 -0000
> >Message-ID: <7qgkmn$q4pl@eGroups.com>
> >In-Reply-To:  <19990831121052.52338.qmail@hotmail.com>
> >User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.76
> >X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster
> >
> >philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
> >original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=567
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: philnancy@aol.com
> > > >Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
> > > >To: 13texan@eGroups.com
> > > >Subject: [13texan] Re: "Big Lie": Herb
> > > >Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 13:23:18 -0700
> > > >MIME-Version: 1.0
> > > >From 13texan-return-509-david_223 Mon Aug 30 13:25:47 1999
> > > >Received: from [207.138.41.146] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP
id
> > > >MHotMailB99432750198D82197E6CF8A29924BDD136; Mon Aug 30 13:25:47
1999
> > > >Received: from [10.1.2.36] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 Aug
1999
> > > >21:23:28 -0000
> > > >Mailing-List: contact 13texan-owner@egroups.com
> > > >X-Mailing-List: 13texan@egroups.com
> > > >X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/13texan/
> > > >Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-13texan@eGroups.com
> > > >Received: (qmail 4290 invoked from network); 30 Aug 1999 20:23:26
> >-0000
> > > >Received: from mu.egroups.com (207.138.41.151) by qg.egroups.com
> >with SMTP;
> > > >30 Aug 1999 20:23:26 -0000
> > > >Received: from [10.1.2.7] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 Aug
1999
> > > >21:23:25 -0000
> > > >Message-ID: <7qep7m$thha@eGroups.com>
> > > >In-Reply-To:  <2f441168.24fc3f90@aol.com>
> > > >User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.76
> > > >X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster
> > > >
> > > >philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
> > > >original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=531
> > > > > In a message dated 8/30/99 9:48:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > > > > philnancy@aol.com writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > << The fact that Karl Marx was a non practicing Jew doesn't
mean
> > > >Communism
> > > > >  is a Jewish political system. I very much doubt your
contention
> >about
> > > > >  1935 and the Politboro composition. Any source for it?
> > > > >
> > > > >  Philip Mathews >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > My Awakening by David Duke 1998...This book will give you more
> > > >references
> > > > > than you would care to read.
> > > >
> > > >David Duke is bereft of any knowledge, education, or insight that
> >would
> > > >interest me. Mr. Duke is hardly an expert on communism or
political
> > > >philosophy.  His opinions are based on his racism and hatred, not
> > > >learning.
> > >
> > >
> > > And when the talmud states that it is ok for Jews to have sex
with 3
> >year
> > > old little girls, what is that based
> > > on?...education?...learning?...knowledge?..
> >
> >Believing that is based on gross ignorance and hate. You might as
well
> >quote me passages on the existence of UFO's and body snatching.
> >
> >
> >
> >..then if we apply the same test
> > > to the Jews, as you have applied to Mr. Duke;
> >
> >Their is no Jew applied test to Mr. Duke. His opinions and lies are
> >repulsive to the vast majority of Americans of all stripes. He's an
> >uneducated, hateful fool, who traffics in the devils work.
> >
> >
> >then should we even speak to a
> > > Jew; given their filthy Satantic religion??
> >
> >You have already exhibited a warped view of their religion, the one
> >which gave rise to Christianity.
> >
> >Philip Mathews
> >
>
>
> The only thinking warped is yours and that of your filthy
talmud.....you are
> an enemy of Christ, and that is obvious to all who have read what
what you
> have written...you and your lot will suffer the same fate you have
> experienced in every other country which you have fled.

It is your thinking that is warped. No true Christian would coutenance
it for a minute. The only thing filthy about the Talmud are the lies
and distortion told about it. You should be more concerned with your
own fate on judgment day.

Philip Mathews

>
> ______________________________________________________

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: What is really going on here.
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 18:30:26 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=600
> At 09:46 AM 8/31/99 -0700, you wrote:
> >philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
> >original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=586
> >> philnancy@aol.com wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Response to Charles' antisemitic Ritual Murder Canard
>
>
> 
>
>
(snip Kadach's comments)

Answer my survey yet?

Philip Mathews

>
>
> Racialist regards,
>
> Ed Kadach
>
>
> >
> >Philip Mathews
> >
> >
> >
> > Charles
> >
> >

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: What is really going on here.
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 18:32:04 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

Charles wrote:

> then philip you have it by yourself!

Don't count on it Charles.

Philip Mathews

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: What is really going on here.
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 21:47:25 -0400
From: Charles 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

Unless you want to disscuss something with me other
that Nazi's jews and Gas , because I really have no
intrest in someones personal views. 90% of everything
that comes across this list I delete with out reading
unless it is attached to my name for some reason.

I take a preterist view on end times, I also believe
Christ will save anyone who is willing to come to him.
My views on the white race being Israel have little
effect on what else I believe.

I'll let God be my judge phil sorry don't need anyone
from mans system of doing thing.

So if your wanting a arguement with someone find another
vicitm Willie can send his writings directly to me and
I can unsubscribe, just don't need the BULL SHIT !!!

Say bye !

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] The Institut Fuer Zeitgeschicthe On Nazi Gassing
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 18:55:21 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

The Institut Fuer Zeitgeschicthe is considered an authority on
this issue (Dimensions of the Holocaust With Emphasis on Gassing) in
Germany, and has been used as a source of information on the Holocaust
in various trials of Nazi war criminals there.

Feel free to quote from this letter, under the following
conditions:

1) Verbatim quotes only.
2) The Institut Fuer Zeitgeschicthe has to be cited as the source.

-Danny Keren.

**********************************************************************
Concerns:  Number of victims of the Nazi tyranny
In reference to your letter which arrived here on 9/3/92.

Dear Mr. Dr. Keren:

In answer to your above mentioned request we send you in a separate
mailing by air mail book-post a composition achieved in house,
concerning "The killing of humans through gas in the extermination-
and concentration camps under the Nazi tyranny" in which you will find
answers to your questions # 1,2 and 4.

The victims of the operation groups of the security service and the SD
behind the German frontier in the Russia-campaign were to the by far
largest part Jews. Their number is estimated to be at least 900,000.

The difference between the total of the victims of the gassings cited
in the above mentioned composition and the number of victims of the
operation groups and the total of roughly 6 million victims of the Nazi
persecution of the Jews results from the fact that a very high
percentage
of the victims have lost their lives through indirect extermination
actions such as the method "destruction through work", bad treatment,
under nourishment, epidemics, exhaustion during forced transportations
etc.

About 120,000 people were killed through the Nazi "Euthanasia"-actions.

Concerns: The killing of people through gas in the extermination and
concentrations camps under the Nazi power

The systematic murdering of humans through gas during the Nazi rule was
introduced for the first time from January 1940 on in the area of the
"Euthanasia", the extermination of the "lives not worthy to live" of
the handicapped, mental patients and the terminally ill, and from fall
1941 on was continued to a much larger extent by the pogroms of the
operation groups of the security police and the SD in the seized eastern
areas with the help of mobile gas vans.

Beginning December of 1941 one proceeded in the camp Kulmhof (Polish
Chelmno) to use stationary gas vans for the killing of Jews, and from
the beginning of 1942 in different camps fixed gas chambers were built,
or already existing buildings were restructured for this purpose.

One needs to differentiate by the furnishing of such gas chambers and
the
gassing actions carried out within them between the mass gassings of
Jews
in the extermination camps build for that purpose and the gassings of
smaller scale in individual, already existing concentration camps
(whereby
patients, seized forced laborers, war prisoners, and political prisoners
among others were also victims)

The following extermination camps existed:

Kulmhof i.e. Chelmno (in the then Wartheland), where between December
1941 and fall 1942 and again from May until August 1944 gassings by
means of carbon monoxide from motor exhaust gas took place. Altogether
more than 150,000 Jews as well as 5000 gypsies have hereby been killed.

Belzec (in the district Lublin of the then general governments): from
march to December 1942 in the beginning in three, later in six large gas
chambers by means of carbon monoxide from motor exhaust gas altogether
about 600,000 Jews were killed here.

Sobibor (district Lublin, general government) received in April 1942
three, later in September 1942 six gas chambers and until October 1943
it was "in operation". During this period at least 200,000 Jews have
been murdered through carbon monoxide gas.

Treblinka (district Warschau, general government) from the end of July
1942 on had three gas chambers and received at the start of September
1942
furthermore ten larger gas chambers. Up to the dissolution of the camp
in
November 1943 altogether 700,000 Jews were killed here by carbon
monoxide.

Majdanek (district Lublin, general government): The concentration camp
existing since September 1941 turned into an extermination camp when
between
April 1942 and November 1943 mass shootings took place to which 24,000
Jews
fell victim. In October 1942 also two, later three gas chambers were
built.
In the beginning the killings in these were done by means of carbon
monoxide, soon however one was using Zyklon B (a highly poisonous
insecticide made
from cyan hydrogen). Up until the dissolution of the camp in March 1944
about 50,000 Jews have been gassed.

Auschwitz-Birkenau (in the formerly polish, in 1939 adjoined to the
"Reich"
upper eastern Silesian area, south eastern of Kattowitz): The
extermination
camp in Birkenau, established in the second half of 1941, was joined to
the concentration camp Auschwitz, existing since May 1940. From January
1942 on in five gas chambers and from the end of June 1943 in four
additional large gassing-rooms gassings with Zyklon B have been
undertaken. Up until November 1944 more than one million Jews and at
least
4000 gypsies have been murdered by gas.

In the following concentration camps gas chambers were established and
have
gone into operation:

Mauthausen (upper Austria): From fall 1941 on one gas chamber existed
which
was operated with Zyklon B. In addition, gassings with carbon monoxide
took
place through gas vans which were driven between Mauthausen and it's
side-camp Gusen. Altogether more than 4000 have been killed here
through gas.

Neuengamme (southeastern of Hamburg): From fall of 1942 on gassings with
Zyklon B were undertaken here in a "Bunker" prepared for that, about 450
victims.

Sachsenhausen (Province Brandenburg, north of Berlin) received mid March
1943 a gas chamber which was operated with Zyklon B. Several thousand
people fell victim to the gassings, a more specific number cannot be
determined.

Natzweiler (by Struthof, Elsass): From August 1943 to August 1944 a gas
chamber existed here in which between 120 and 200 people were killed
through
Zyklon B in order to be able to dissect their skeletons for the
Anatomica
Institute of University of Strassburg.  Back then this institute was
managed
by a chief company commander of SS Prof. Dr. August Hirt.

Stutthof (east of Danzig) had from June 1944 on one gas chamber in which
more than 1000 were killed by Zyklon B.

Ravensbruck (Bradenburg, north of Berlin): Here still in January
1945 a gas chamber was established;  the number of the people killed
in it was at least 2300.

Dachau (Upper Bavaria, northeast of Munich): During the establishment of
a new house of cremation in 1942 also a gas chamber was established in
it
in which in connection with the medical experiments of the chief company
commander of SS Dr. Rascher also a few experimental gassings were
undertaken,
as more recent research has confirmed. (On that see Gunther Kimmel:
The Concentration Camp Dachau. A study of the Nazi crimes of violence in
Bavaria in the NS-time II, edited by Martin Broszat and Elke Froehlich,
Munich, R. Oldenburg Press, 1979, P. 391.) Larger gassing operations
have not taken place in Dachau.

Philip Mathews

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: who/what shemite/semitic
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:06:48 EDT
From: SNEADSTER@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

In a message dated 8/31/99 1:44:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
philnancy@aol.com writes:

<< Words are not defined by groups. This is an outright lie. Antisemite
 means hater of Jews.

 Philip Mathews
  >>

Then Jew must mean hater of Aryans....

Michael Snead

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: who/what shemite/semitic
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 19:26:45 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=599
> At 10:42 AM 8/31/99 -0700, you wrote:
> >philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
> >original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=588
> >> Anti-Semitism: The word anti-Semitism was an invention;
> >
> >All words are invented.
>
> Just like the myth of the 4.5 million jews being gassed
> was invented.

Holocaust history was not invented.
>
>
> >
> >
> >H.H.
> >> Beamish, in a New York address, October 30 - November 1, 1937:
> >> "In 1848 the word ‘anti-Semitic' was invented by the Jews to
> >> prevent the use of the word ‘Jew.' The right word for them is
> >> ‘Jew'"
> >
> >Words are not defined by groups. This is an outright lie. Antisemite
> >means hater of Jews.
> >
> >Philip Mathews
>
>
> Antisemitism doesn't exist for the one reason I've tried to show you
and
> the other exterminationists on alt.revisionism repeatedly. There is
no such
> thing as a "Semitic race".

That is nonense.  As we strived mightily to teach you, antisemitism
means hatred of Jews. And your beliefs about Jews  and the Semitic
peoples are hogwash, a form of cult belief engaged in by a tiny
minority of extremists.

> It's another lie that the jews have convinced the jewdeo-Christian
> clergy to erroneously believe and to teach.

It is the truth to all but a few misfits.
>
> All that we revisionists and believers in Christ are doing is to show
> you that "the truth is out there as are the facts." All that
revisionists
> and Christian believers are doing is finding them and letting the
world know!

Revisionists are historians, which leaves you out. You are a denier,
and deniers have discovered no truth. I also have great doubts as to
whether you are a Christian.

>
> But then all "TRUTH is HATE to those WHO HATE the TRUTH", and you and
your
> Nizkook friends slip into that category rather easily.

It is you who hate the truth, and love to hate. You're inability to
discuss the facts of the Holocaust is proof of that.

Philip Mathews

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: who/what shemite/semitic
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 19:29:36 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

Micael Snead wrote:

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=609
> In a message dated 8/31/99 1:44:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> philnancy@aol.com writes:
>
> << Words are not defined by groups. This is an outright lie.
Antisemite
>  means hater of Jews.
>
>  Philip Mathews
>   >>
>
>
> Then Jew must mean hater of Aryans....

Non sequitur.

Philip Mathews

>
> Michael Snead

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: What is really going on here.
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 19:34:23 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=607
> Unless you want to disscuss something with me other
> that Nazi's jews and Gas , because I really have no
> intrest in someones personal views.

We're talking historical fact, not personal views.

 90% of everything
> that comes across this list I delete with out reading
> unless it is attached to my name for some reason.
>
> I take a preterist view on end times, I also believe
> Christ will save anyone who is willing to come to him.
> My views on the white race being Israel have little
> effect on what else I believe.

I have no interest in your "religious" views.
>
> I'll let God be my judge phil sorry don't need anyone
> from mans system of doing thing.

He will indeed be your judge.
>
> So if your wanting a arguement with someone find another
> vicitm Willie can send his writings directly to me and
> I can unsubscribe, just don't need the BULL SHIT !!!

If you don't wish to discuss, don't reply.

>
> Say bye !

Going somewhere?

Philip Mathews

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: who/what shemite/semitic
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:39:22 -0400
From: Charles 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

The jews of WW2 are dead and the Nazi's are also!

get a life Phil your beating a dead horse and anyone
will will beat it with you is just as silly as yourself.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Edom: Modern Jewry
Date: 31 Aug 99 21:40:15 CDT
From: Bill Hoyt 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

"Jeanne-Marie Zimmerman"  wrote:
> One wrote:
Paul wrote that the Jews lost their covenant with God so I hope
you aren't referring to them as the chosen people.

Another said in part:
"I ask then, did God reject his people?  By no means!" Romans 11:1

Me:
The Encyclopedia Judaica as well as the Jewish Encyclopedias state, "Edom is
in modern Jewry." Therefore, Jews of today have no link to this scripture.
===================

Let us assume for a moment that the quote is true.  If that is the case, then
the statement that "Paul wrote that the Jews lost their covenant with God"
would be shown to be false, since Paul wrote of the Jews in his day (of whom
he was one, of the tribe of Benjamin - Rom 11:1).  If they were truly
Edomites, then they never had a covenant to lose.

However, history records things a little differently than does your alleged
quote from the Encyclopedia Judaica.  The Jews were not Edomites, but the
Edomites, in fact, became Jews:

Writing of the period following the Reign of the Idumaen (Edomite) King
Antiochus, Josephus (37ad-100ad) writes:

"Hyrcanus also took Dora and Marissa, and permitted them to stay in that
country, if they would circumcise their genitals and make use of the laws of
the Jews; and they were so desirous of living in the country of their
forefathers that they submitted to the use of circumcision and the rest of the
ways of Jewish living; at which time this therefore befell them, that they
were hereafter no other than Jews" Josephus, Antiquities XIII, IX, 1

Now to say that the Jews had become Edomites is a lot like saying the
Americans became Navajo after they had conquered them, a strange saying
indeed.

No, in fact, the Idumaens (Edomites), after the reign of Herod, fall from the
pages of history rather ingloriously, and the Jews (Israelites), who were much
greater in number, were the surviving culture.  It is highly doubtful, then,
that the Romans, when they scattered the Jews in 70 and again in 132,
separated out the Israelite Jews from the Idumean Jews so that only the latter
survived.  It also leaves aside the large number of Israelite Jews who were
living in Asia, Africa, and Europe at the time (after all, if Claudius kicked
them out of Rome because they were rioting over whether Jesus was Christ
(Seutonius, The Twelve Caesars, V, 25), there must have been quite a number of
them, and if they were Edomites, they would not have cared a whit about who
the promised Messiah was)

So while modern Jewry undoubtedly contains many Edomites (as well as persons
from many other cultures), to say that modern Jewry is Edom flies in the face
of history.

____________________________________________________________________
Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] who's minding the list !
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:43:10 -0400
From: Charles 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

phil

I don't have control over this list... but if it were
mine I would have already blocked and removed your
address from it :)

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] church bloopers
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:46:24 -0400
From: Charles 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: dispatch76@onelist.com, 13texan@egroups.com

 Actual responses given by children in Bible classes around the
   country:

   1. The first book of  the Bible is Guinessis in which Adam
         and Eve  were created from an apple.
   2. Noah's wife was called Joan of Ark.
   3. Unleavened bread is bread with no ingredients.
   4. Lot's wife was a pillar of salt by day and a ball of fire
         by  night.
   5. Moses went to the top of Mt. Cyanide to get the Ten
         Commandments.
  6. The Seventh Commandment is: Thou shalt not admit adultery
  7. Joshua led the Hebrews in the battle of Geritol.
  8. Soloman had 300 wives and more than 700 porcupines.
  9. Jesus was born because Mary had an immaculate contraption.
  10. The people who followed Jesus were called the 12 decibels.
  11.  One of the opossums was St  Matthew.
  12. The epistles were the wives of  the apostles.
  13. Paul preached  acromony which is another name for
         marriage.
  14.  The Jews had trouble throughout their history with
         unsympathetic  Genitals.
  15. David faught the Finkelsteins, a race of people who lived
         in  bibical times.
  16. A Christian should have only one wife, which is called
         monotony.

More Classic CHURCH BULLETIN Bloopers

1)     Scouts are saving aluminum cans, bottles, and other items to
be recycled.  Proceeds will be used to cripple children.

2)     The outreach committee has enlisted 25 visitors to make calls
on people who are not afflicted with any church.

3)     The Ladies Bible Study will be held Thursday morning at 10.
All ladies are invited to lunch in the Fellowship Hall after the B.S.
is done.

4)     Evening massage - 6 p.m.

5)     The Pastor would appreciate it if the ladies of the
congregation would lend him their electric girdles for the pancake
breakfast next Sunday morning.

6)     The audience is asked to remain seated until the end of the
recession.

7)     Low Self-Esteem Support Group will meet Thursday at 7 to
8:30 p.m.   Please use the back door.

8)     Ushers will eat latecomers.

9)     The third verse of Blessed Assurance will be sung without
musical accomplishment.

10)    For those of you who have children and don't know it, we have
a nursery downstairs.

11)    The Rev. Merriwether spoke briefly, much to the delight of
the audience.

12)    The pastor will preach his farewell message, after which the
choir will sing, "Break Forth Into Joy."

13)    During the absence of our pastor, we enjoyed the rare
privilege of hearing a good sermon when J.F. Stubbs supplied our
pulpit.

14)    Next Sunday Mrs. Vinson will be soloist for the morning
service. The pastor will then speak on "It's a Terrible Experience."

15)    Due to the Rector's illness, Wednesday's healing services
will be discontinued until further notice.

16)    Stewardship Offertory: "Jesus Paid It All"

17)    The music for today's service was all composed by George
Friedrich Handel in celebration of the 300th anniversary of his
birth.

18)    Remember in prayer the many who are sick of our church and
community.

19)    The eighth-graders will be presenting Shakespeare's Hamlet in
the church basement on Friday at 7 p.m. The congregation is invited
to attend this tragedy.

20)    The concert held in Fellowship Hall was a great success.
Special thanks are due to the minister's daughter, who labored the
whole evening at the piano, which as usual fell upon her.

21)    22 members were present at the church meeting held at the
home of Mrs. Marsha Crutchfield last evening. Mrs. Crutchfield and
Mrs. Rankin sang a duet, The Lord Knows Why.

22)    A song fest was hell at the Methodist church Wednesday.

23)    Today's Sermon: HOW MUCH CAN A MAN DRINK? with  hymns from a
full choir.

24)  Hymn 43: "Great God, what do I see here?" Preacher: The Rev.
Horace Blodgett Hymn 47: "Hark! an awful voice is sounding"

25)    On a church bulletin during the minister's illness: GOD IS
GOOD Dr. Hargreaves is better.

26)    Potluck supper: prayer and medication to follow.

27)    Don't let worry kill you off - let the church help.

28)    The 1997 Spring Council Retreat will be hell May 10 and 11.

29)    Pastor is on vacation.  Massages can be given to church
secretary.

30)    8 new choir robes are currently needed, due to the addition
of several new members and to the deterioration of some older ones.

31)    The choir invites any member of the congregation who enjoys
sinning to join the choir.

32)    Please join us as we show our support for Amy and Alan in
preparing for the girth of their first child.

33)    Weight Watchers will meet at 7 p.m.  Please use large double
door at the side entrance.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: who/what shemite/semitic
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 19:49:40 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

Charles wrote:

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=613
> The jews of WW2 are dead and the Nazi's are also!

Some are still alive.

>
> get a life Phil your beating a dead horse and anyone
> will will beat it with you is just as silly as yourself.

You've got pretty good rhythm.

Philip Mathews

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Another good Jewish boy
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:50:55 -0400
From: Charles 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

     David Berkowitz, the Son of Sam a Jewish serial killed !

 "My Jewish parents," Berkowitz says, "would break down and cry because
they saw that I was such a tormented person."

"Son of Sam" Repents: David Berkowitz, the "Son of Sam" serial killer who
terrorized New York City twenty years ago, says he deserves to die for his
crimes. Berkowitz, whose murders were part of nationwide, satanic cult
conspiracy, says that he has given his life to Jesus and now is a witness
to other criminals in state prison. He said he prays daily for God's
forgiveness for the horrible acts he once committed.

   (However you don't see him denouncing Judaism, Read John 8:44 .)

 In a letter to the New York Daily News, the "born again" Berkowitz wrote,
"I have nothing but deep regret and sorrow for all that has happened and
for all the bad things I have done." He said that while Christ has chosen
to forgive him, he nevertheless wishes he could go back in time to change
things and prevent the terrible suffering of others. (Read Rev. 2:9-3:9

 David Berkowitz says that spirits of evil visited him virtually from birth,
"I craved the darkness when I was a child ...I roamed the darkened streets
like an alley cat, and I wasn't yet a teenager," he explained. "I  could
barely hang on to my sanity...thoughts of suicide plagued me continually."

                            * end artical *


------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: who's minding the list !
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 19:52:19 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

Charles wrote:

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=614
> phil
>
> I don't have control over this list... but if it were
> mine I would have already blocked and removed your
> address from it :)

I'm not surprised. Freedom of expression provided it agrees with you,
eh.

Philip Mathews

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Burden of Proof
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 23:03:42 EDT
From: SNEADSTER@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

In a message dated 8/31/99 2:55:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gormanh@home.com
writes:

<< 6,000,000 were murdered... perhaps you would benefit from a
reconsideration of
 your mathematics? >>

Herb,
       Let's just say for the sake of this Holohoax argument that The Nazis
did kill 6 million Jews.....No let's give them ( those who even give a hoot)
a benefit of a doubt and make it 15 million Jews.
    Now let's go back to Friday, March 26, 1933, The World Jewish Congress
declared war on Germany and demanded a world wide ban on German product. That
group alone bears a heavy responsibility on the deaths of  the Holohoax.
    For six years these sick bastards exacerbated every national grievance
and paranoia. They used their great financial power. They ran inflammatory
articles about Germany. They used their powerful political and media
influence to agitate for war and to feed the fires of hate, a fire still
stroked by the media almost 60 years after the fact.
    Also in 1933 another Jew, Frank H. Simonds wrote a book entitled AMERICA
FACES THE NEXT WAR.  In his last paragraph he says," In a Europe thus visibly
dominated by the spirit of Adolph Hitler what can possibly be accomplished by
an American foreign policy still patently inspired by the doctrines of
Woodrow Wilson? America faces the next war in Europe. But must it continue to
face it with shut eyes? The real question is all there.
    Why do you think people world wide distrust the Jews? Are people jealous
of the short squirmy little weasels with the disproportionate noses? Do you
actually know anyone who strives to be like a Jew? Are they like Christ and
people want to persecute them? I think not! The Jews have done all of this to
themselves. I am not a believer of the Christian Identity but I believe that
these are good people, Yet you continue to try to belittle these people with
you sarcasm and have yet to answer any of my questions.
    Willie Martin is a very intelligent man and he has yet to respond to you
and I know why. If your brain were compared to his, with his stretched out as
wide as it could go and as long as it could go. Your brain would look like a
BB rolling down a 12 lane highway.
Michael Snead
14/88

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Burden of Proof
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 21:15:34 -0600
From: Ed Kadach 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

At 06:23 PM 8/31/99 -0700, you wrote:
>David Griffin wrote:
>
>
>
>
>philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
>original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=597
>
>>
>> I believe Mr. Snead asked you what what religion you adheared
>to....did I
>> miss your answer?
>
>You did not.
>
>
>...your tone is defineately Jewish...which would account
>> for your support of His enemies.

Mr. Mathews' religion is Zionism. His politics are of a self-flagellating
liberal and he is a Bolshevik-Communist.

His preferred sites are:
http://x10.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=322656870
Israel's Socialist Roots

http://x3.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=229955013
 Workman's Circle

http://x10.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=327634787.1
Yiddishist Socialist - Used to Propagate Socialism!

http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=316979464
"Jews must help labor, build world socialism."

http://x9.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=322113005
 Zionism & Israeli Politics - Socialism?

Racialist regards,

Ed Kadach



>
>Philip Mathews
>
>
>
>
>>
>> David

"All truth passes through three stages. First,
it is ridiculed; second it is violently opposed;
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
---Schopenhauer

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Belzec investigation - mass graves found
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 23:15:43 EDT
From: SNEADSTER@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

In a message dated 8/31/99 3:00:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gormanh@home.com
writes:

<< David, what about the other 5,500,000 Jews murdered by the Nazis? Were
they also
 "bent on destroying their own country?" >>

Herb,
    As a matter of fact the Jews were bent on destroying Germany It wasn't
"their"
own country to begin with. Once the leaches finish with their host country
they move on. Remember 1933 Jews world wide declared war on Germany even
those in that country.....
Michael Snead

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] over 60 million Christians
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 23:16:58 -0400
From: Charles 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

Mr. Mathews it may intrest you to know that, Russian
Jews killed over 60 million WHITE Christians during
the Russian revolution. It is also a historical fact!

Now ask one of the White Christian victims or their
families if they love the jews who killed them .

Good night !

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
 [Image]

Subject: [13texan] Re: The Institut Fuer Zeitgeschicthe On Nazi Gassing
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 21:18:07 -0600
From: Ed Kadach 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

At 06:55 PM 8/31/99 -0700, you wrote:
>
>The Institut Fuer Zeitgeschicthe is considered an authority on
>this issue (Dimensions of the Holocaust With Emphasis on Gassing) in
>Germany, and has been used as a source of information on the Holocaust
>in various trials of Nazi war criminals there.
>
>Feel free to quote from this letter, under the following
>conditions:
>
>1) Verbatim quotes only.
>2) The Institut Fuer Zeitgeschicthe has to be cited as the source.
>
>-Danny Keren.

Keren, just another member of Nizkook. Real last name is Kerensky- a
Zionist jew.

Racialist regards,

Ed Kadach

"All truth passes through three stages. First,
it is ridiculed; second it is violently opposed;
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
---Schopenhauer

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Burden of Proof
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 20:19:54 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

Eddie Kadach wrote:

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=621
> At 06:23 PM 8/31/99 -0700, you wrote:
> >David Griffin wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
> >original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=597
> >
> >>
> >> I believe Mr. Snead asked you what what religion you adheared
> >to....did I
> >> miss your answer?
> >
> >You did not.
> >
> >
> >...your tone is defineately Jewish...which would account
> >> for your support of His enemies.
>
>
>
> Mr. Mathews' religion is Zionism. His politics are of a
self-flagellating
> liberal and he is a Bolshevik-Communist.

Mr. Kadach knows nothing about my religion or politics. Of course this
doesn't stop him from speculating, there being no penality in most
aspects of life for ignorance. It happens to be precisely the way he
deals with the Holocaust, or any issue involving Jews.

>
> His preferred sites are:
> http://x10.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=322656870
> Israel's Socialist Roots

Never heard of it.

>
> http://x3.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=229955013
>  Workman's Circle

Ditto
>
> http://x10.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=327634787.1
> Yiddishist Socialist - Used to Propagate Socialism!

Hehe. Ditto.
>
> http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=316979464
> "Jews must help labor, build world socialism."

Ditto
>
> http://x9.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=322113005
>  Zionism & Israeli Politics - Socialism?

Ditto It does explain much, however,  if Eddie is getting his info from
websites.

Philip Mathews

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Jew Agenda Against Aryans
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 23:22:45 EDT
From: SNEADSTER@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

In a message dated 8/31/99 3:06:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gormanh@home.com
writes:

<< Were the 5.5 million murdered Jews that were not Germans - were they also
 "treasonous," David? Infants at breast and all? >>

First of all I am glad that we have got that 6 Million down to 5.5 million
another 2 weeks he will agree with us. Secondly the Jews were traitors to the
country of Germany as they are in any country the are in. Remember, The Jews
brought all of this on themselves, yes, even the small child. Do you think
that the little Jew children were the only ones to die in WWII? I know better.
Michael Snead
14/88

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: The Institut Fuer Zeitgeschicthe On Nazi Gass
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 20:22:58 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

Eddie Kadach wrote:

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=622
> At 06:55 PM 8/31/99 -0700, you wrote:
> >
> >The Institut Fuer Zeitgeschicthe is considered an authority on
> >this issue (Dimensions of the Holocaust With Emphasis on Gassing) in
> >Germany, and has been used as a source of information on the
Holocaust
> >in various trials of Nazi war criminals there.
> >
> >Feel free to quote from this letter, under the following
> >conditions:
> >
> >1) Verbatim quotes only.
> >2) The Institut Fuer Zeitgeschicthe has to be cited as the source.
> >
> >-Danny Keren.
>
>
>
> Keren, just another member of Nizkook. Real last name is Kerensky- a
> Zionist jew.

A lie. So much for Mr. Kadach's credibility. Notice how he is unable to
deal with the information, prefering to engage in an ad hominem attack
against someone not even involved in the conversation.

Philip Mathews

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: over 60 million Christians
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 23:26:35 -0400 (EDT)
From: maxwell99@webtv.net (Colleen Jones)
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

Maybe it was about time that story received a bit more attention.

With the Zionist came an ugliness even in the art....vicous vendettas,
Rockfeller money - and in Rockefeller's  hidden art treasures, it is
alleged they have many treasures stolen also from WWII.

Guess this is the difference between St. Nicklaus and Santa
Claus...Zionism.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Belzec investigation - mass graves found
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 23:27:11 EDT
From: SNEADSTER@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

Herbie,
          1933 comes long before 1941 and like I said, I feel sorry for no
one who self-inflicts anything upon themselves.

In a message dated 8/31/99 3:25:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gormanh@home.com
writes:

<< "With respect of the Jewish Question, the Führer has decided to make a
clean
 sweep. He prophesied to the Jews that if they again brought about a world
war,
 they would live to see their annihilation in it. That wasn't just a
catch-word.
 The world war is here, and the annihilation of the Jews must be the necessary
 consequence." (Joseph Goebbels, diary entry, Dec. 12, 1941)
  >>

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: over 60 million Christians
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 20:28:55 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

Charles wrote:

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=624
> Mr. Mathews it may intrest you to know that, Russian
> Jews killed over 60 million WHITE Christians during
> the Russian revolution. It is also a historical fact!

How do you know they were all Christians? How do you know it was 60
million?  Where are all the bodies and what was the cause of death?
Have you seen 60 million autopsy reports? What evidence do you have for
this historical fact?
>
> Now ask one of the White Christian victims or their
> families if they love the jews who killed them .

They were not killed by Jews, they were killed by Soviet Communists, a
group conprised of many different people.
>
> Good night !

Sleep tight.

Philip Mathews

>

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Burden of Proof
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 23:31:39 EDT
From: SNEADSTER@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

David, You are right he hasn't answered me yet.
Michael Snead

In a message dated 8/31/99 4:40:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
david_223@hotmail.com writes:

<< I believe Mr. Snead asked you what what religion you adheared to....did I
 miss your answer?...your tone is defineately Jewish...which would account
 for your support of His enemies.

 David
  >>

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Burden of Proof
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 23:31:56 EDT
From: SNEADSTER@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

Eddie,
Took the words out of my mouth,
Michael Snead

In a message dated 8/31/99 11:17:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
eddiek@connect.ab.ca writes:

<< Mr. Mathews' religion is Zionism. His politics are of a self-flagellating
 liberal and he is a Bolshevik-Communist.
  >>

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Burden of Proof
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 23:34:18 EDT
From: SNEADSTER@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

Phil,
    I bet even Nancy is a shamed of what you are.
Michael Snead

In a message dated 8/31/99 11:21:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
philnancy@aol.com writes:

<< Mr. Kadach knows nothing about my religion or politics. Of course this
 doesn't stop him from speculating, there being no penality in most
 aspects of life for ignorance. It happens to be precisely the way he
 deals with the Holocaust, or any issue involving Jews. >>

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: The Institut Fuer Zeitgeschicthe On Nazi Gass
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 23:36:51 EDT
From: SNEADSTER@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

Phil,
    The problem is you answer no questions and your inability to answer any
questions makes any one speculate. Your actions are a perfect MO of a Jew.
Michael Snead

In a message dated 8/31/99 11:25:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
philnancy@aol.com writes:

<< A lie. So much for Mr. Kadach's credibility. Notice how he is unable to
 deal with the information, prefering to engage in an ad hominem attack
 against someone not even involved in the conversation.

 Philip Mathews >>

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Burden of Proof
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 21:36:56 -0600
From: Ed Kadach 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

At 11:03 PM 8/31/99 EDT, you wrote:
>In a message dated 8/31/99 2:55:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
gormanh@home.com
>writes:
>
><< 6,000,000 were murdered... perhaps you would benefit from a
>reconsideration of
> your mathematics? >>

You know Herb, I'd pay attention to Michael here. From what I've read of you
I believe that there is hope for you. Seek out and research all the facts of
this issue before you start looking only to Nizkor for all your answers.
They have their agenda in place and I know it to be one of deception, the
site is full of contradictions.

Ed Kadach

>
>
>Herb,
>       Let's just say for the sake of this Holohoax argument that The Nazis
>did kill 6 million Jews.....No let's give them ( those who even give a hoot)
>a benefit of a doubt and make it 15 million Jews.
>    Now let's go back to Friday, March 26, 1933, The World Jewish Congress
>declared war on Germany and demanded a world wide ban on German product.
That
>group alone bears a heavy responsibility on the deaths of  the Holohoax.
>    For six years these sick bastards exacerbated every national grievance
>and paranoia. They used their great financial power. They ran inflammatory
>articles about Germany. They used their powerful political and media
>influence to agitate for war and to feed the fires of hate, a fire still
>stroked by the media almost 60 years after the fact.
>    Also in 1933 another Jew, Frank H. Simonds wrote a book entitled AMERICA
>FACES THE NEXT WAR.  In his last paragraph he says," In a Europe thus
visibly
>dominated by the spirit of Adolph Hitler what can possibly be accomplished
by
>an American foreign policy still patently inspired by the doctrines of
>Woodrow Wilson? America faces the next war in Europe. But must it continue
to
>face it with shut eyes? The real question is all there.
>    Why do you think people world wide distrust the Jews? Are people jealous
>of the short squirmy little weasels with the disproportionate noses? Do you
>actually know anyone who strives to be like a Jew? Are they like Christ and
>people want to persecute them? I think not! The Jews have done all of this
to
>themselves. I am not a believer of the Christian Identity but I believe that
>these are good people, Yet you continue to try to belittle these people with
>you sarcasm and have yet to answer any of my questions.
>    Willie Martin is a very intelligent man and he has yet to respond to you
>and I know why. If your brain were compared to his, with his stretched out
as
>wide as it could go and as long as it could go. Your brain would look like a
>BB rolling down a 12 lane highway.
>Michael Snead
>14/88
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
>http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications
>
>
>
>
>
>

"All truth passes through three stages. First,
it is ridiculed; second it is violently opposed;
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
---Schopenhauer

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: What is really going on here. (THAT'S,WHAT??)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 20:37:56 -0700
From: "Yuriy Kirienko" 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: "Willie Martin" <13texan@egroups.com>

-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Sanford
[mailto:bruce_sanford@fcmail.com]
Sent: August 31, 1999 19:33
To: The Grip
Subject: Re: [OPF] Re: What is really going on
here. (THAT'S,WHAT??)

Bruce, I slightly corrected your English.
I have no interest to study Torah for I am not
looking
for being its critic.

Yuriy Kirienko

Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 17:36:12 -0800
From: "Bruce Sanford" 
Subject: Re: [OPF] Re: What is really going on
here. (THAT'S,WHAT??)

Dears:

That hypocrite Philip Mathews quoting the Book of
Job does not even  know that it was a product of
neither
 an Israelite nor of a Judaite but follows the
Moses' call
for protecting his believers from rage of the
whole world.
Why is he doing so? He is not skilled in  Torah.
Right now
at Auschwitz, isn't it celebrated with fanfares
for bringing its
wisdom  to humakind? What to say more? Rather you
should study  the Torah together with the

and then commence your  talk about hypocrites.

Sincerely - Bruce.

---- Begin Original Message ----

Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:29:26 -0700
 From: "Yuriy Kirienko" 
Subject: [OPF] Re: What is really going on here.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * *
OutPost of Freedom maillist
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Gentlemen:

1. How to explain that in all those body counts of
how Pol Pot and Soviet Gulag killed people (in the
latter case Russian people) you portray
yourself as freedom fighters for justice and from
oppression? Was it not Germany that killed 28
million Russians during the W.W.II alone?

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Holocaust©® Numbers/History
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 20:38:00 -0700
From: "Yuriy Kirienko" 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: "Willie Martin" <13texan@egroups.com>

-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Sanford
[mailto:bruce_sanford@fcmail.com]
Sent: August 31, 1999 19:33
To: The Grip
Subject: Re: [ThePentagonGuru] Re: Holocaust©®
Numbers/History

Bruce:

I do not try to brainwash Americans "even better"
for I
am not a propagandist. What I say would produce
its
fruits in a while. In fact, it already did - open
your eyes
and look around. Do not you see a change since how
it
was two years ago.

Remember Carol Moore who cursed me for being a
dis-
turber of the American docility reminiscing on how
it was
peace and quiet before I appeared? I broke down
her
feminist monopoly on the initiative in discourse
based on
intimidation through yelling and false
accusations.

You do not really understand what I am doing. I am
not
hoarding passive Amrican majority into following
me
for I do not look for the advantages of
leadership. I am
showing Americans the road itself rather than the
way to
it. Politicians would do it at their profit once
they know
where the road is. Without knowing it, they are
blind and
they are bringing their blind followers to the
first ditch.

God is one and it does not matter for me how some
people call God. Usually they call God a name to
start
talking from that name for it gives them a false
sense of
authority. They give God a name to become its
priest. I
always talk in my own name and I take full
responsibility
for everything that I say.

For that reason Odin cannot be on par or not on
par with
Yahve in principle. Give it a better thought.

Yuriy Kirienko

Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 17:02:54 -0800
From: "Bruce Sanford" 
Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=5BThePentagonGuru=5D_
Re:_Holocaust=A9=AE_Numbers/History_?=

Dear Mr. Kirienko:

I told you many times over that you should
simplify
historical events presenting them in stages due to
the audience you are talking to in the U.S. for it
is
brainwashed better than you try to do it. It means
that
you are a bad propagandist and if to count that
you
have no means to be heard around, your time is
wasted tremendously. Perception of your arguments,
as sophisticated as they are, by ordinaries is low
and
do cause to evaluate them as a product of an
unstable
person. Change your style, be clear, concise and
to the
point leaving the rest to historians, as well as
politicians,
whom you shall criticise in the same style. And
remember,
 your Odin is not at par with Yahve. The latter is
every-
where, even in Vatican and with the Patriarch of
Moscow.

Very sincerely - Me.

---- Begin Original Message ----

Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:29:42 -0700
 From: "Yuriy Kirienko" 
Subject:
=?iso-8859-1?Q?=5BThePentagonGuru=5D_Re:_Holocaust
=A9=AE_Numbers/History_?=
        =?iso-8859-1?Q?29?=

Your belief stands absolutely on nothing. Every
child knows the truth of it in Russia and in
Germany as well. Soon I will prepare for you some
materials, though, I have no interest to prove
self-evident to anyone for who ever cared to know
the truth would have known already.

The Russians were raped and murdered because the
thugs of the world revolution were brought to
Russia by Ludendorff, Hoffman and other Masons of
Germany. The patch on the trench coat of the Red
Army soldier at the time of 1918 carried Swastika
and the small five pointed Star above it.
Swastikas were also printed on the money of the
Provisional Government in 1917. Both Bolshevik
coup and NAZI revolution were conceived by the
Jews in Basel at the turn of the century.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Burden of Proof
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 20:38:54 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

Eddie Kadach wrote:

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=633
> At 11:03 PM 8/31/99 EDT, you wrote:
> >In a message dated 8/31/99 2:55:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> gormanh@home.com
> >writes:
> >
> ><< 6,000,000 were murdered... perhaps you would benefit from a
> >reconsideration of
> > your mathematics? >>
>
>
> You know Herb, I'd pay attention to Michael here. From what I've read
of you
> I believe that there is hope for you. Seek out and research all the
facts of
> this issue before you start looking only to Nizkor for all your
answers.

You mean as you've done Eddie!  Tell us what you know about the
Holocaust?

> They have their agenda in place and I know it to be one of deception,
the
> site is full of contradictions.

Then you should be able to throw out a half dozen or so with no problem!

Philip Mathews

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] white!
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 23:40:06 -0400
From: Charles 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

White !

I'm willing to be Mr Mathews says black, however
I will not be around to read it because I have had
enough. Mr Mathews is right about everything and
all the jews are saints and anyone who says diffrent
is only misstaken about history or any other proof.

Good bye everyone...

See ya in email Willie

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Burden of Proof
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 20:40:08 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

Michael Snead:

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=634
> Phil,
>     I bet even Nancy is a shamed of what you are.
> Michael Snead

Gambling's a sin.

Philip Mathews

>
>
>
> In a message dated 8/31/99 11:21:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> philnancy@aol.com writes:
>
> << Mr. Kadach knows nothing about my religion or politics. Of course
this
>  doesn't stop him from speculating, there being no penality in most
>  aspects of life for ignorance. It happens to be precisely the way he
>  deals with the Holocaust, or any issue involving Jews. >>

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: The Institut Fuer Zeitgeschicthe On Nazi Gass
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 20:42:56 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

Michael Snead wrote:

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=635
> Phil,
>     The problem is you answer no questions and your inability to
answer any
> questions makes any one speculate. Your actions are a perfect MO of a
Jew

The problem is you lie. I've refused to answer no question on the
Holocaust. You don't seem to know enough to ask a meaningful question,
but I'm not responsible for that. And you're a Jew hater.

Philip Mathews

.
> Michael Snead

>
> In a message dated 8/31/99 11:25:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> philnancy@aol.com writes:
>
> << A lie. So much for Mr. Kadach's credibility. Notice how he is
unable to
>  deal with the information, prefering to engage in an ad hominem
attack
>  against someone not even involved in the conversation.
>
>  Philip Mathews >>

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Burden of Proof
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 23:44:21 EDT
From: SNEADSTER@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

Phil,
       I can do my own thinking.
Michael Snead


David,
    I think you are making the Jew mad.
Michael Snead

In a message dated 8/31/99 9:25:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
philnancy@aol.com writes:

<< Your assumption is ignorant and antisemitic. I suspect He thinks you
 are an ass. I'm sure He disavows your non Christian values.

 Philip Mathews
  >>

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: The Institut Fuer Zeitgeschicthe On Nazi Gass
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 21:48:30 -0600
From: Ed Kadach 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

At 08:22 PM 8/31/99 -0700, you wrote:
>
>Eddie Kadach wrote:
>
>
>
>philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
>original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=622
>> At 06:55 PM 8/31/99 -0700, you wrote:
>> >
>> >The Institut Fuer Zeitgeschicthe is considered an authority on
>> >this issue (Dimensions of the Holocaust With Emphasis on Gassing) in
>> >Germany, and has been used as a source of information on the
>Holocaust
>> >in various trials of Nazi war criminals there.
>> >
>> >Feel free to quote from this letter, under the following
>> >conditions:
>> >
>> >1) Verbatim quotes only.
>> >2) The Institut Fuer Zeitgeschicthe has to be cited as the source.
>> >
>> >-Danny Keren.
>>
>>
>>
>> Keren, just another member of Nizkook. Real last name is Kerensky- a
>> Zionist jew.
>
>A lie. So much for Mr. Kadach's credibility. Notice how he is unable to
>deal with the information, prefering to engage in an ad hominem attack
>against someone not even involved in the conversation.
>
>Philip Mathews

You made Kerensky part of the conversation(?) and I felt it was my
obligation to set the list straight on exactly what type of person
they were dealing with. Perhaps a posting of a Z-Gram from Ingrid
a while back will throw some real light on Kerensky. As for the
so-called info, anything remotely written to or from Kerensky gets
trashed. Deal with it, Phil.

Racialist regards,

Ed Kadach

"All truth passes through three stages. First,
it is ridiculed; second it is violently opposed;
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
---Schopenhauer

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: The Institut Fuer Zeitgeschicthe On Nazi Gass
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 20:51:03 -0700
From: philnancy@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

Eddie Kadach wrote:

philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=643
> At 08:22 PM 8/31/99 -0700, you wrote:
> >
> >Eddie Kadach wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
> >original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=622
> >> At 06:55 PM 8/31/99 -0700, you wrote:
> >> >
> >> >The Institut Fuer Zeitgeschicthe is considered an authority on
> >> >this issue (Dimensions of the Holocaust With Emphasis on Gassing)
in
> >> >Germany, and has been used as a source of information on the
> >Holocaust
> >> >in various trials of Nazi war criminals there.
> >> >
> >> >Feel free to quote from this letter, under the following
> >> >conditions:
> >> >
> >> >1) Verbatim quotes only.
> >> >2) The Institut Fuer Zeitgeschicthe has to be cited as the source.
> >> >
> >> >-Danny Keren.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Keren, just another member of Nizkook. Real last name is Kerensky-
a
> >> Zionist jew.
> >
> >A lie. So much for Mr. Kadach's credibility. Notice how he is unable
to
> >deal with the information, prefering to engage in an ad hominem
attack
> >against someone not even involved in the conversation.
> >
> >Philip Mathews
>
>
> You made Kerensky part of the conversation(?) and I felt it was my
> obligation to set the list straight on exactly what type of person
> they were dealing with

No I didn't, I merely sourced the document. And what you were doing is
giving your biased opinion. The list should be  more worried with the
type of person you are, as you continue to lie about Dr. Keren's name
and his character.  I thought lying was a sin?

. Perhaps a posting of a Z-Gram from Ingrid
> a while back will throw some real light on Kerensky. As for the
> so-called info, anything remotely written to or from Kerensky gets
> trashed. Deal with it, Phil.

I don't half to deal with your lies Eddie. But as a Christian, you know
you must one day. As for Mr. Keren, I'm sure your tired of shown to be
wrong!

Philip Mathews

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: The Institut Fuer Zeitgeschicthe On Nazi Gass
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 23:54:51 -0400
From: Charles 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

Phil

How do you cremate bodys in a over where no fire tuches the
body ? Do you know how much heat it take to cremate a body?
I do ! I was once offered the opportunity to attend a school
to learn the art of cremation for a hospital where I worked.

This is my last message to this list... God Bless and Keep
His Sheep untill the time we all meet in His Kindom .

Charles

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: What is really going on here. (THAT'S,WHAT??)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 23:59:46 EDT
From: SNEADSTER@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

In a message dated 8/31/99 11:38:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, yk@jps.net
writes:

<< Was it not Germany that killed 28
 million Russians during the W.W.II alone?
  >>
The Propaganda machine of the Russian Military called the war a Patriotic War
and sent men to battle without weapons. The Jewish controlled Soviet Union
was an evil vile machine from the belly of Satan and were his imps.  Read the
book The Wolf Of The Kremlin by Stuart Kahan.
Michael Snead

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: "Big Lie": Herb
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:00:48 -0600
From: Ed Kadach 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

At 06:28 PM 8/31/99 -0700, you wrote:
>philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
>original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=598

>> >Philip Mathews
>> >
>>
>>
>> The only thinking warped is yours and that of your filthy
>talmud.....you are
>> an enemy of Christ, and that is obvious to all who have read what
>what you
>> have written...you and your lot will suffer the same fate you have
>> experienced in every other country which you have fled.
>
>
>It is your thinking that is warped. No true Christian would coutenance
>it for a minute. The only thing filthy about the Talmud are the lies
>and distortion told about it. You should be more concerned with your
>own fate on judgment day.
>
>Philip Mathews

Mathews, I don't believe for one minute that besides you, that there
is anyone on this list that doesn't know the filth that resides in
your Talmud. It's common knowledge what is contained within the pages
of it. It is anti-christ just like you apparently are.

Racialist regards,

Ed Kadach

"All truth passes through three stages. First,
it is ridiculed; second it is violently opposed;
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
---Schopenhauer

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: The Institut Fuer Zeitgeschicthe On Nazi Gass
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 00:05:13 EDT
From: SNEADSTER@aol.com
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

In a message dated 8/31/99 11:44:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
philnancy@aol.com writes:

<< And you're a Jew hater.

 Philip Mathews
  >>
Thank You
Michael Snead
14/88

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: The Institut Fuer Zeitgeschicthe On Nazi Gass
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:13:06 -0600
From: Ed Kadach 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

At 11:54 PM 8/31/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Phil
>
>How do you cremate bodys in a over where no fire tuches the
>body ? Do you know how much heat it take to cremate a body?
>I do ! I was once offered the opportunity to attend a school
>to learn the art of cremation for a hospital where I worked.
>
>This is my last message to this list... God Bless and Keep
>His Sheep untill the time we all meet in His Kindom .
>
>Charles

Charles,

Hang in there. Phil only replies in the way he does due to
the conditioning (eg.Pavlov) he has gone through. You could
be the one to actually break him of his repetitious answers.

YH Bless,

Ed Kadach

"All truth passes through three stages. First,
it is ridiculed; second it is violently opposed;
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
---Schopenhauer

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: new topic, just to make things interesting
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:22:45 -0600
From: Ed Kadach 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

A refreshing idea, a new topic. I like it.

God Bless,

Ed Kadach

At 08:20 AM 8/31/99 PDT, you wrote:
>       It's not often that I post to this list, generally I "lurk". :)  But I
>would like to express my appreciation to sisters Colleen and Jeanne-Marie,
>and brothers Eddie, David and Michael, and of course, pastor Willie.
>There's iron in your words of wisdom, and it does not go unnoticed.
>
>       I saw this review of the movie "Anastasia" on a nonracialist website, and
>had to laugh my head off!
>       "Romulan, Toronto, Canada: 10 May 1999: Americans do it again!  I just
>watched the 1997 movie "Anastasia" on a recently released laser disc
>pressing. You  know, I never cease to be amazed by the cavalier attitude
>with which the American  entertainment industry treats other cultures and
>values. The opening words of the film say it all  "There was a time, not
>very long ago, when we lived in an enchanted world of elegant palaces  and
>grand parties. The year was nineteen-hundred and sixteen and my son Nicholas
>was the Tsar of Imperial Russia."  What is ever-so-conveniently never
>mentioned is that this "enchanted world of elegant palaces and grand
>parties" was created by a repressive and reactionary  aristocracy at the
>expense of unimagined misery for untold millions of peasants and workers.
>And when that repression finally reached its explosive breaking point in
>1917, the movie circumvents and trivializes it by introducing preposterously
>supernatural causes, without a hint  of any underlying social injustice.  Of
>course, Fox Studios defended itself by pointing out that it was in no way
>dramatizing historical events, but was intent upon creating a children's
>fantasy.  But I have to wonder how Americans would react if a Russian film
>company marketed an  animated children's fantasy about America's old South
>as an "enchanted world of elegant  plantations and grand parties", a world
>that is rudely shattered when the "vile" abolitionist John  Brown, who has
>supposedly struck an unholy alliance with Lucifer and the bluecoat brigades
>of Abraham Lincoln, interrupts a grand ball thrown by the genteel President
>Jefferson Davis at  Richmond, Virginia, to celebrate the investiture of the
>gallant General Robert E. Lee as the  commander of army of the newly born
>Confederate States of America. With a satanic leer from  within a swirling
>cloud glowing in venomous green, John Brown spews out an apocalyptic  curse
>of upon the cream of Southern gentry and their fledgling Confederacy. What a
>  breathtakingly dramatic vision for the root causes of the American Civil
>War with which to  impress young inquisitive minds, eh? But what about the
>reaction of the [negroes] whose ancestors paid for this "enchanted world of
>elegant plantations and grand parties" with  generations of harsh bondage,
>to say nothing of today's legions of Civil War buffs and local  historical
>boards on both sides of the Mason-Dixon line? Why, no problem! Just imagine
>their collective sigh of relief after they are comforted by a spokesperson
>of the Moscow movie mogul with some soothing remark like, "Now, folks,
>relax. Our film is definitely not depicting  historical facts.  It's just a
>fairy tale for kids." It's amazing how a reassuring explanation like that
>can make all the difference in the world!"
>
>       Actually, I'd like to see just such a Civil War cartoon, just to keep
>things balanced.  I mean, if they can make "Schindler's List" and other
>fiction...  How about you? ;)
>
>Yours in Christ,
>Chris
>***********************************
>"'...The house of Jacob will be a fire and the house of
>Joseph a flame; the house of Esau will be stubble, and they
>will set it on fire and consume it.  There will be no
>survivors from the house of Esau.'  The Lord has spoken."
>Obadiah 18

"All truth passes through three stages. First,
it is ridiculed; second it is violently opposed;
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
---Schopenhauer

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: over 60 million Christians
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:24:34 -0600
From: Ed Kadach 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

At 08:28 PM 8/31/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Charles wrote:
>
>
>
>philnanc-@aol.com wrote:
>original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan/?start=624
>> Mr. Mathews it may intrest you to know that, Russian
>> Jews killed over 60 million WHITE Christians during
>> the Russian revolution. It is also a historical fact!
>
>How do you know they were all Christians? How do you know it was 60
>million?  Where are all the bodies and what was the cause of death?
>Have you seen 60 million autopsy reports? What evidence do you have for
>this historical fact?
>>
>> Now ask one of the White Christian victims or their
>> families if they love the jews who killed them .
>
>They were not killed by Jews, they were killed by Soviet Communists,

Same people!

Ed Kadach

>>
>> Good night !
>
>Sleep tight.
>
>Philip Mathews

"All truth passes through three stages. First,
it is ridiculed; second it is violently opposed;
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
---Schopenhauer

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Take that
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 00:45:13 -0400
From: William Seitzinger 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com

This is what "Good Old Winnie" contributed to the safety of our world.

Brother Bill

http://www.fpp.co.uk/bookchapters/WSC/Bwar.html
  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
                        [Onvia.com. Work. Wisely.]

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

                                 Take that!

                           CONCERN still existed that the Germans might
                           have prepared extensively for bacteriological
                           warfare; had they, for example, already
                           inoculated their troops against any specific
                           virus?
                             In August 1943 George Merck, director of the
                           War Research Service (the controlling body for
                           bacteriological warfare in the United States)
                           had proposed to the British experts at Porton
                           that RAMC medics and American medical officers
   Mr Churchill's 1944     collaborate in sampling the blood of German
       Planning for        prisoners of war.
     Bacteriological         Britain's bacteriological warfare effort at
     Warfare against       Porton was advised that the appropriately-named
         Germany           Lieutenant-Colonel R S Muckenfuss had been
                           ordered by the highest level to conduct such
                           tests.
          [Image]            Dr Paul Fildes, the head of the Biology
                           Section, Experimental Station, Porton, near
                           Salisbury, who was almost entirely responsible
                           for the work, replied on September 8 that he
                           thought nothing useful would come of such an
   [From Public Record     investigation. As Fildes pointed out, there
      Office files]        were twenty-four possible microbes for use in
                           such warfare; only very few could not be
                           inoculated against, while 'N,' the one most
  A sneak preview of       likely to be used, had no known remedy; suppose
  materials collected      the Nazis deliberately inoculated their troops
  for Churchill's War,     with the wrong antidote, to deceive the Allies
  vol. iii                 about which microbe they intended to use? The
                           proposal did not die however.
                             Early in 1944 the Combined Chiefs of Staff in
                           Washington stated a renewed requirement for
                           sampling the blood of a cross-section of German
                           prisoners captured in Commando raids.
                           ------------------------------------------------

                                'SIX CITIES selected - Aachen,
                                Wilhelmshaven, Stuttgart, Frankfurt,
                                Hamburg and Berlin . . .'

 * BW(P)(44)1: 'Proposals to take Samples of Blood from German Prisoners of
  War,' Mar 3, 1944 (PRO file CAB.121/103). It was subsequently denied that
                the CCS had authorised such an investigation.

    The British raised immediate legal objections. General Hawley, chief
  surgeon at ETOUSA, then wrote to Major-General Poole, agreeing to these
  niceties but pointing out that they could use the opportunity presented
  when prisoners of war consulted their medics for trivial complaints:
  'These can well be hospitalised, and a sample of blood taken as a
  routine procedure in hospital. Hawley continued that 'a really ingenious
  medical officer' could always create a 'temporary medical disability'
  such as diarrhoea 'which will hospitalise any given number of patients.'
    Dr Fildes, the head of Britain's bacteriological warfare effort at
  Porton, dismissed the idea as without merit.
    On May 21, 1944 Churchill wrote to Ismay reminding him that great
  progress had been made in bacteriological warfare, and Britain had
  ordered half a million bombs from American for use should this mode of
  warfare be employed by the Germans.
    'I think we should be in a position to make and fill these bombs
  here,' he suggested, but was concerned that putting this before the
  chiefs of staff would widen the circle of those in the know.
    Ismay responded that so far the Joint Intelligence Staff had not been
  let into the secret. On April 21, 1944 Fildes submitted a report on the
  operational tests with the four-pound 'N' bomb. These trials had
  produced in part catastrophic results - 'Even in our operations with N,'
  he would report some months later, 'we did not succeed in keeping our
  agents within bounds and have created conditions which will require
  consideration after the war.'
    The bomb would be scattered in clusters over a two hundred yard square
  patch releasing their toxin as an odourless aerosol cloud which would
  cause death by inhalation of half the human beings up to a mile downwind
  from it, or up to two miles if they were running (the risk increasing
  with exertion).
    After only a few seconds, the unsuspecting victims would have inhaled
  a lethal dose and be beyond salvation. Since death would occur from two
  days to a week or so after the attack, it would have no immediate effect
  on combat: 'It should be applied to attacks on cities of areas remote
  from the site of direct hostilities,' recommended the scientist, 'or on
  lines of communication or areas of assembly closer to the scene of
  combat.'
    He warned of possible political reactions in highly developed
  countries in Europe which were to be occupied by the Allies, though not
  in the relatively undeveloped localities in the Pacific.


  He also recommended that BW attacks delivered with conventional air
  raids should wait until the HE bombing had ended - so that the cloud of
  anthrax spores was still airborne as the population was emerging from
  their shelters.
    'As a bonus,' fresh clouds of anthrax spores would arise as bulldozers
  went in to clear up. 'In all cases the initial use of BW should be on an
  adequate scale and without warning.'
    He recommended a daylight attack on an overcast summer's day.
    Taking the city of Stuttgart as an example, the scientist assessed
  that a BW raid would need nearly two thousand clustered projectiles
  (each one being a five hundred pound container of the four-pound anthrax
  bombs); these could be carried by 83 Stirlings, 142 Lancasters, or 166
  American B-17s and B-24s, and ideally be released simultaneously at the
  end of a conventional HE attack.
    'An operation of this short,' promised Fildes, 'should kill a
  considerable number of people, either rapidly by inhalation or ore
  slowly by skin infection.'
    The Americans were working on the toxins, X, N, W and yellow fever.
    In late May 1944 the chiefs of staff expressed concern that stocks of
  the corresponding antidotes (toxoids) were not yet available apart from
  Toxoid X, of which small stocks were now on hand in England; but since X
  was only a small part of the potential threat the decision was taken to
  inoculate nobody at all at this stage.
    In June 1944, the War Cabinet appointed an inter-Service sub-committee
  on Biological Warfare. They learned that no definite order had yet been
  placed in the United States for the manufacture of 'N' bombs; further
  trials were still being conducted on these frightful weapons. Churchill
  had however authorised top priority for all counter-measures to BW, and
  possible collaboration with SOE on BW operations.
    It was no coincidence that the Cabinet's committee on BW met on July 6
  (Bottomley as chairman) and resumed on July 8, 1944.
    After reviewing the progress of Churchill's instruction that half a
  million 'N' bombs be ordered from the USA at once, they committee
  'agreed that General Gubbins should be invited to the next meeting to
  explain what the relationship of SOE to BW work had been in the past,
  and what interest, if any, on this work they had as regards the future.'
    Fildes now (July 21) reported again on BW. On August 14, he
  re-evaluated the half-million bomb order, and decided that the
  saturation figures needed revising.
    At that time (January 6, 1944) they had believed that ten clusters
  would saturate one square mile, and that the six cities selected -
  Aachen, Wilhelmshaven, Stuttgart, Frankfurt, Hamburg and Berlin - would
  have 538 square miles of built up territories. This would require
  570,280 anthrax bombs. The air flow conditions in built up areas had
  been re examined since then, and on April 21, 1944 the figure to achieve
  saturation was tripled.
    Since then tests had shown that the bombs from clustered projectiles
  would fall vertically, instead of at the assumed angle of 15 ; this
  doubled the figure again, to three million, or say four million assuming
  a twenty-five percent failure rate.
    The order should thus be increased to four million anthrax bombs, he
  suggested.[...]

     Order books | Auschwitz Index | Irving Index | Irving Page | Irving
                Book-List | Action Report | Other FP Authors
     -------------------------------------------------------------------
     [Image] Buchladen | Auschwitz | Irving-Verzeichnis | -Hauptseite |
                -Bücher | Action Report | Weitere FP-Autoren

          © Focal Point 1998 [Image] [Image] write to David Irving

  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
                        [Onvia.com. Work. Wisely.]

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] RE over 60 million Christians
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:05:24 -0700
From: "Yuriy Kirienko" 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: "Willie Martin" <13texan@egroups.com>

1. It may be interesting, Charles, for you to know that
those Russian Jews were brought to power by the Ger-
man Jews.

2. WHEN LENIN LOST HIS POWER GERMANY
DEMANDED HIS RESTORATION.

3. Ludendorff was one of the officers in charge of the
Russian Revolution and he knew all of the details. Lu-
dendorff was a close associate of Hitler. It is through Lu-
dendorff, Hitler learned the number of 30 million Rus-
sians being killed during 1917-1924. He stated that
number in Mein Kampf written in 1924 when Hitler was
in prison and Ludendorff was in charge of the party.

4. Germans not only provided the logistics and controlled
the Revolution but they never broke close ties with Trot-
skists - the Jewish communists in Russia. Their leader
Trotsky publicly stated at Politburo meeting that they
would open the gates of Moscow to the enemy when
they come to the walls of Moscow.

5. NKVD and Gestapo maintained close links and Ge-
stapo used Russian camps for training. Russian Jews
with German knowledge and strategic guidance com-
mitted most of the atrocities that took place before the
W.W.II since the time of Revolution.

6. The Chief of the SS Jew Heydrich engendered and
executed the conspiracy to execute all Russian officer
corps before the German invasion. Also, in deep secrecy
they blew up the most powerful in the world defense line
that was built shortly before the war and stretched from
the Black Sea to the Baltic.

7. The defeats of the first 6 months of the war were due
to the fact that run by the German Jews Germany set up
Russian Army for defeat. It was done with the help of
their fifth column in Russia that consisted of Trotskist
Jews within Stalin's communist party.

8. Consequently, most of the Russian victims of that
century were direct or indirect victims of the German de-
signs and activity. Germany has been and still is even to
a larger extent an obedient tool in the hands of the Jews.
All that empty talk about the Holocaust of the Jews that
never existed is as false as is blaming of the "Russian"
Jews as a force independent from Germany. Accusation
of the regular Russian communists in committing atroci-
ties against the Russian people is even more ground-
less.

9. From the foundation of lies, nothing but ever larger
lies can grow. The political and social reality, every ele-
ment of which is false, would inevitably fall. It is in the
interests of the Germans themselves to look truth
straight at the face for a Holy Aryan Alliance of Russian,
German and other Aryans could be built on the founda-
tion of truth only.

Yuriy Kirienko

-----Original Message-----

From: Charles [mailto:dogpatch@bellsouth.net]
Sent: August 31, 1999 20:17
To: 13texan@egroups.com
Subject: [13texan] over 60 million Christians

Mr. Mathews it may intrest you to know that, Russian
Jews killed over 60 million WHITE Christians during the
Russian revolution. It is also a historical fact!

Now ask one of the White Christian victims or their fami-
lies if they love the jews who killed them .

Good night !
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroups.com home:
http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communica-
tions

DAMN THE MELTING POT!

"It is not un-American or unconstitutional to
refuse to be absorbed into the melting
pot." -- Justice Joseph W. Bellacosa, New
York State Court of Appeals, May 11, 1999.

This judge committed a felony -- he stated
truth while in the judicial chair. However,
it is only a half-truth. The full truth is
that it is pro-American, constitutional and
morally binding for all Fathers, in the name
of their sons and daughters, to throw the
devils of the "politically correct" with
their pseudo-intellectual mantras into that
red-hot melting pot that they have been
heating up for the Aryan and other tribes of
the world for so long.

Yuriy Kirienko

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Burden of Proof
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 23:44:14 -0700
From: Herb Gorman 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

David Griffin wrote:

> There must be some communicate...something to prove there was a
> holocaust.....besides just someone saying there was.....even the figures
> census don't add up.....only a school-child would believe such
> nonsense......
>

Actually, David, the various government census figures *do* add up. In fact, in
a report from two German historians which is scheduled to be released in
January, a nation by nation accounting is provided. I don't know what school
children believe, but I do know what scholars believe. Perehaps you would like
to read this research report when it is released, and comment further at that
time?

> the jews were treasonous Germans, and had to be concentrated....many of them

Two million Jewish children - some only a few days old - all of thewse were
"treasonous Germans," David? There were only 500,000 Jews in Germany, and nearly
6,000,000 were murdered... perhaps you would benefit from a reconsideration of
your mathematics?

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: "Big Lie": Herb
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 23:48:07 -0700
From: Herb Gorman 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

David Griffin wrote:

> And when the talmud states that it is ok for Jews to have sex with 3 year
> old little girls, what is that based

Actually, David, the Talmud doesn't say that, although a good many nazu
activists misrepresent what it *does* say in the hope that gullible people will
swallow it.

I recommend http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Cyprus/8815/ for those who would
like to compare the lies told about the Talmud with the reality of the Talmud.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Belzec investigation - mass graves found
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 23:50:06 -0700
From: Herb Gorman 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

David Griffin wrote:

> The Jews of Germany in the 30's were bent on destroying their own
> country....not another's country; but their own, mind you....this makes them
> traitors to their country; and they were jailed, concentrated, detained,
> whatever anyone wants to call it....perfectly acceptable punishment....and
> we will see the same thing happen again....just watch and wait for it....for
> the Jew has still not learned that one must be loyal to their county; or
> they must pay the penalty.

David, what about the other 5,500,000 Jews murdered by the Nazis? Were they also
"bent on destroying their own country?"

You seem focused on German Jews, who account for less than ten per cent of the
number of murdered Jews. Is there a particular reason for that, David?

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Zyklon-B:Jewish Development
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 23:53:59 -0700
From: Herb Gorman 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

David Griffin wrote:

> Of course the Jews will try and downplay the qualifications of Mr.
> Leuchter.....But we know that he is quite qualified, and the tests he has
> down are quite conclusive...Only delousing gasses were used....no poisionous
> gasses were used on Jewish political prisoners.....case closed.

Mr. Leuchter does not *have* any qualifications to "destroy," David. He has a
degree in history, and no degrees in the sciences.

In short, "we" know that he is not qualified at all: Consider this, from
http://www.nizkor.org/faqs/leuchter/leuchter-faq-22.html

The following is taken from Leuchter's testimony at the Zündel trial (Douglas
Christie, Zündel's attorney is the questioner) - following the testimony are
verbatim quotes from two American prison officials, which were obtained after
Leuchter's testimony at the trial. We believe you will have no difficulty in
determining the value of Mr. Leuchter's credentials after considering both:

Q: And what is your relationship with the operation of those facilities [i.e.
gas chambers] in those two States [California and North Carolina]?

A: We consulted with both States, California primarily on a heart monitoring
system to replace the older type mechanical diagraph stethoscope that's
presently in use. We will be shipping to them shortly and installing a new heart
monitor for both chairs in their gas chamber.

Q: You are consulted by the State, I understand?

A: Yes, Juan Vasquez.

Q: I see. And in North Carolina?

A: North Carolina. My discussions and work was with one Nathan Reise, and he had
some work done by their maintenance personnel on their gas chamber two years
ago, and they had a problem with the gasket on a door leaking. At which point,
we discussed it with him and recommended remedial procedures to change the gas
chamber.

Q: And he consults you in regard to those matters?

A: He does.

What do those two facilities have to say about the matter? First, the warden at
San Quentin (California) responds:

"I can inform you, however, that San Quentin has not contracted with Fred A.
Leuchter, Jr. for the installation of a heart monitoring system or for any other
work." Signed: DANIEL B. Vasquez, Warden (California)

Next, we offer the comments from North Carolina prison officials:

"I discussed your request with Mr. Nathan A. RICE, Former Warden, and he stated
that he vaguely recalled a telephone conversation between him and a gentleman
professing to be an expert on execution chambers. Mr. Rice further states that
the gentleman called him for the purpose of selling a lethal injection
machine...

Also, our records do not support that Mr. Leuchter performed either consulting
or any service...I can attest that the planning and work was performed by the
Department of Correction Engineering Section and our institution maintenance
department." Signed: Gary T. Dixon, Warden (North Carolina)

We discover, then, that neither California nor North Carolina have consulted
with Leuchter regarding their gas chambers. Leuchter was incapable of even
getting the names of the wardens right, and clearly lying about his
"professional" relationships with them.

The only other state with which Leuchter has alleged consulted regarding gas
chambers is Missouri. Yet, even thought Leuchter has allegedly "designed" a gas
chamber for the state, we have to take his word for it since that gas chamber
was never built nor installed and, in fact, Missouri does not have an
operational gas chamber to this day even though Leuchter had allegedly designed
one for them over 4 years ago. We would like to hear from anyone who has
contacted authorities in the State of Missouri regarding this matter.

An article in the Washington Post sheds additional light upon Leuchter's legal
problems, and his status as an engineer:

BOSTON, June 17 - Fred A. Leuchter Jr., a self-styled expert in the machinery of
death who parlayed his reputation as a builder of killing equipment into a
second career as a proponent of "Holocaust revisionism," has admitted that he is
not an engineer.

Made in a consent decree filed with a Massachusetts court last week, his
admission should deal a blow to the movement holding that the Nazi extermination
of 6 million Jews and others during World War II was a hoax or an exaggeration,
according to experts in the field.

Leuchter, 48, of suburban Malden, was to face trial later this month on charges
of practicing engineering without a license, a violation of Massachusetts law.
But on June 11, he signed a consent agreement with the board that licenses
engineers.

In it, Leuchter acknowledged that, "I am not and have never been registered as a
professional engineer" and that he nevertheless had represented himself as an
engineer in dealings with various states that use the death penalty and to which
he supplied equipment or advice.

The agreement also requires Leuchter to stop disseminating reports in which he
purports to be an engineer, most significantly a document known as the "Leuchter
Report."

That report, widely circulated by revisionists, asserts that gas chambers at
Nazi concentration camps in Auschwitz, Birkenau and Majdanek could not have been
used for mass killings because they were not big enough nor well ventilated or
sealed. The assertion is based largely on chemical analysis of materials scraped
surreptitiously from walls of those chambers by Leuchter during a visit to
Poland in February 1988.

Sally Greenberg, an attorney with the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith in
Boston, which was instrumental in bringing Leuchter to the attention of
Massachusetts authorities, welcomed the settlement.

"It's a blow to Holocaust revisionism because he has been the guru of the
revisionists," she said. "Now, he has as much as admitted that he is not
qualified as an engineer to comment on the 'myth' of the Holocaust. It's
essentially an admission that he's the charlatan and phony that we always knew
he was." ("Holocaust Revisionist Admits He Is Not Engineer." The Washington
Post. Get pub/people/l/leuchter.fred/washington-post.0691 for the complete
text.)

Leuchter's "credibility," or rather, his lack of same, among American prison
administrators:

On July 20,1990, Alabama Assistant Attorney General Ed Carnes sent a memo to all
capital-punishment states questioning Leuchter's credentials and credibility.
Carnes stated that not only were Leuchter's views on the gas-chamber process
'unorthodox' but that he was running a shakedown scheme. If a state refused to
use his services, Leuchter would testify at the last minute on behalf of the
inmate, claiming that the state's gas chamber might malfunction.  According to Carnes, Leuchter
made 'money on both sides of the fence.' .
Describing Leuchter's behavior in Virginia, Florida, and Alabama, Carnes
observed that in less than thirty days Leuchter had testified in three states
that their electric-chair technology was too old and unreliable to be used. In
Florida and Virginia the federal courts had rejected Leuchter's testimony as
unreliable. In Florida the court had found that Leuchter had 'misquoted the
statements' contained in an important affidavit and had 'inaccurately surmised'
a crucial premise of his conclusion . In Virginia, Leuchter
provided a death-row inmate's attorney with an affidavit claiming the electric
chair would fail. The Virginia court decided the credibility of Leuchter's
affidavit was limited because Leuchter was "the refused contractor who bid to
replace the electrodes in the Virginia chair ."
(Lipstadt, 170)

So you see, David, Leuchter himself admits he has no qualifications.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Subject: [13texan] Re: Jew Agenda Against Aryans
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 23:56:35 -0700
From: Herb Gorman 
Reply-To: 13texan@egroups.com
To: 13texan@egroups.com

David Griffin wrote:

> >And the 5.5 million murdered Jews that were not Germans... were they also
> >"treasous," David? Infants at breast and all?
>
> You assume a person is good because they are a Jew.....If the benefits of
> hate-crime extend to all Jews, children and likewise, as in the California
> shootings and in the Chicago shootings.....would not the infamy of Jewry
> also extend to their prodginy?.....would not a treasonous Jew's children
> also be treasounous?

David, whether you feel that I assumed that someone was "good" because they are
a Jew (I don't, but it isn't important) or not does not address the question.
You commented that German Jews were all traitors, and deserved what they got,
and I responded by asking you a question.

Would you be kind enough to answer the question, David?

Were the 5.5 million murdered Jews that were not Germans - were they also
"treasonous," David? Infants at breast and all?

------------------------------------------------------------------------

eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/13texan
http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications

Home ·  Site Map ·  What's New? ·  Search Nizkor

© The Nizkor Project, 1991-2012

This site is intended for educational purposes to teach about the Holocaust and to combat hatred. Any statements or excerpts found on this site are for educational purposes only.

As part of these educational purposes, Nizkor may include on this website materials, such as excerpts from the writings of racists and antisemites. Far from approving these writings, Nizkor condemns them and provides them so that its readers can learn the nature and extent of hate and antisemitic discourse. Nizkor urges the readers of these pages to condemn racist and hate speech in all of its forms and manifestations.