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From bj695@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Jul  3 10:22:44 PDT 1995
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From: bj695@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Geoff Lupton)
Subject: Re: Monotheism vs. polytheism
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If one is to pay allegiance to a Higher Force, it makes much more
sense to follow one God that a plurality of spirits. In the same
way, it is better to follow one Leader that a number of competing
spokesmen. In either case, it is much easier to forge unity through
one than through many.

Geoff Lupton

--
Letters are dead; only the spirit of letters is life. To fight
for our nation, for our people: this is the type of work from
which spiritual and moral powers rise.
					- Ferenc Szalasi


From bj695@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Wed Jul 19 20:10:58 PDT 1995
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From: bj695@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Geoff Lupton)
Subject: Re: How to use a waffle iron
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John:

Luckily, my entire collection of Blackshirts is wash'n'wear, so
I don't have to worry about learning how to use a waffle iron
to make my uniforms look professional. Technical efficiency is 
but one of the many results of fascism.

Geoff Lupton

--
The Nation requires, for the protection of its common interests
and the attainment of its common aims, a head to control it, a
centre of life and action.
				- Antonio de Oliveira Salazar


From bj695@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Wed Jul 19 20:12:09 PDT 1995
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From: bj695@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Geoff Lupton)
Subject: Re: How to use a waffle iron
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So now John Baglow is worrying about having his shirts look 
"professional"? I guess even old socialists turn bourgeois
in their old age. John, how will your proletarian cohorts
take this sudden turn to middle-class respectabilty?

Geoff Lupton

--
The Nation requires, for the protection of its common interests
and the attainment of its common aims, a head to control it, a
centre of life and action.
				- Antonio de Oliveira Salazar


From bj695@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Wed Jul 19 23:48:21 PDT 1995
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From: bj695@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Geoff Lupton)
Subject: Re: How to use a waffle iron
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John:

Luckily, my entire collection of Blackshirts is wash'n'wear, so
I don't have to worry about learning how to use a waffle iron
to make my uniforms look professional. Technical efficiency is 
but one of the many results of fascism.

Geoff Lupton

--
The Nation requires, for the protection of its common interests
and the attainment of its common aims, a head to control it, a
centre of life and action.
				- Antonio de Oliveira Salazar


From bj695@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Wed Jul 19 23:49:40 PDT 1995
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From: bj695@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Geoff Lupton)
Subject: Re: How to use a waffle iron
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So now John Baglow is worrying about having his shirts look 
"professional"? I guess even old socialists turn bourgeois
in their old age. John, how will your proletarian cohorts
take this sudden turn to middle-class respectabilty?

Geoff Lupton

--
The Nation requires, for the protection of its common interests
and the attainment of its common aims, a head to control it, a
centre of life and action.
				- Antonio de Oliveira Salazar


From bzs@world.std.com Wed Jul 19 23:53:13 PDT 1995
Article: 23914 of alt.revisionism
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From: bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein)
Subject: Re: Usury
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From: bj695@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Geoff Lupton)
>How do we know this wasn't just a sly power grab by the Chosenites
>to gain undue influence over European rulers by controlling the
>money supply.

Ok, say it was. Say all of modern history reduces to your paranoid,
one-sentence ravings?

So?

What's your point?

What do you mean "undue influence"? You mean kinda like the "Divine
Right of Kings"? The Crusades? The colonization of Africa? Feudalism?

Oh, I forget, "undue influence" is something only a Jewish person is
capable of. For everyone else it's just "politics".

What part of history do you not understand. Perhaps we can explain it
to you in monosyllabic words.

-- 
        -Barry Shein

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From bj695@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jul 20 06:33:21 PDT 1995
Article: 23924 of alt.revisionism
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From: bj695@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Geoff Lupton)
Subject: Re: Usury
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Ah, the old chestnut that evil White Christians "forced" the Jews
into the dubious practice of moneylending and the extraction of
usury for their efforts. 

How do we know this wasn't just a sly power grab by the Chosenites
to gain undue influence over European rulers by controlling the
money supply.

This was the tangible result of the Jewish domination of the moey
system. Or was this ability to mainipulate politics through the
control of money another "injustice" perpetrated against the Jews
by Christian Europe?

Geoff Lupton

--
We are those who, having nothing to lose and everything to win, 
have decided to replace the decaying liberal democracy with a new
regime and to create a world in which a man can truly live.
						- Leon Degrelle


From bzs@world.std.com Tue Jul 25 08:45:35 PDT 1995
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From: bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein)
Subject: Re: nationalsozailismus-kommunismus was: Pat Buchanan
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From: bj695@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Geoff Lupton)
>Once again, thinking readers are forced to endure the childish
>and superficial notion that fascism and National Socialism are,
>in any significant way, to be equated with Marxism.

Oddly enough Mr Lupton seems to be, at this point, arguing with his
ideological fellow-travelers. More or less.

Hell, I agree with the above statement he makes.

Had to happen eventually.

-- 
        -Barry Shein

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From bj695@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Tue Jul 25 16:52:37 PDT 1995
Article: 61813 of can.politics
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From: bj695@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Geoff Lupton)
Subject: Re: Anti-Fascist Militia
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Neil:

I never stated that "fascists" (individuals or groups) never commit
acts of violence or destruction. Obviously, some misguided people
who may choose to call themselves "fascists" or "Nazis" decide, for
whatever twisted reasoning, that desecration of synagogues or Jweish
cemetaries actually advances the White Nationalist movement.

Of course, nothing could be further from the truth. Such activities 
are immoral, illegal and extremely counterproductive. Furthermore,
as one who believes that fascism proper is uniquely endowed with a
sense of honour and bravery (in some ways, a revival of chivalry),
I find these acts very repugnant and must be denounced.

However, I stand by my claims that some of these cases (not all) were
the acts of apolitical nihilistic hoodlums and/or agents provacateurs.
Certainly, some of the negative activities that have been attributed
to individuals connected to the Heritage Front turned out to be either
committed or instigated by CSIS stooge Grant Bristow.

With respect to the so-called "holocaust", the jury is still out on that
one (providing one is open-minded, of course). I will say that any 
deaths that may have occurred during WWII in the Nazi camps (nowhere
even near 6 million) are regrettable and are not to be supported. However,
it has not been conclusively proven that these deaths were the result
of any deliberate Nazi extermination policy, but were more likely
to have occurred via starvation, disease and even Allied bombing raids.

That being the case, I think it unfair and inaccuate to attribute
violence to National Socialism as necessarily innimical to its nature.
If you have ever read _Other Losses_ by James Bacque, you might ask 
the question "Was deliberate starvation and mass death an innate feature
of the Allied cause?". Ditto for _The Destruction of Dresden_ by davis
Irving or _A World Apart_ by Gustav Herling (on Soviet camps).

Therefore, if one wishes to engage in moral pontification about fascism
or the Axis cause, one must be equally prepared to examine one's own
assumptions with the same level of scrutiny. Was the giveway of Eastern
Europe to Stallin at the Yalta and Postdam conferences an example of
the Allied dedication of "freedom". I could go on and on, but you can
get the drift. What is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander...

Geoff Lupton

--
For parliamentary intrigue, we must substitute method, authority,
continuity and all that leadership alone can bring to the Nation.

					- Charles Maurras


From bj695@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Jul 27 14:42:31 PDT 1995
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From: bj695@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Geoff Lupton)
Subject: Re: Fascists are leftists
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The issue is not one of federal action or inaction with respect
to national unity. Nor is it a question of big government. Rather,
it is an issue of nationalism itself.

Any form of nationalism not rooted in racial and cultural reality
is doomed to fail. Thus, the pseudo-nationalism of Trudeau and
the NDP is a vacant policy because its tries to establish and
defend a canadian "identity" based on a fallacy (multiculturalism)
and a contradiction (internationalist world view).

The only guarantee of success is to create and sustain a genuine
national state (racial and cultural unity) through vigilance and
authority. This is the essence of fascist ideology: the realization
that all other issues shrink in importance to national survival.
The conservative Right would place their faith in smaller gov't,
less taxes and free trade, while the orthodox Left foments class
warfare, useless social prgrams and international solidarity.

Both of these visions are bankrupt and have failed. Only fascism
has the requisite will and power to consign these dogmas to the
dustbin of history and hail a new dawn. For this and many other
reasons, I am proud to count myself among that group of men who
unreservedly embrace fascism as the only political philosophy
worth living for.

Geoff Lupton
--
For parliamentary intrigue, we must substitute method, authority,
continuity and all that leadership alone can bring to the Nation.

					- Charles Maurras


From bj695@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Jul 31 09:38:29 PDT 1995
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Subject: Re: Fascists are leftists
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Of course, any cursory reading of my post re WWII will reveal
that I never claimed that the British Empire included Poland
and Czechoslovakia. I did say that the British people were told
falsely that victory would ensure the survival of the Empire
when the reality was it led to its bankruptcy and destruction.
Thus, the Empire was not dissolved willingly. The Brits were
left with no option after ruining themselves fighting the Axis
powers who had no design on the Empire anyway and left Britain
at the mercy of the US and the Soviets. In my books, this was
treason or folly or both.

A fire bomb fell on my mother's home in London during the war.
She lived through the Blitz and the Battle of Britain, as did
my father. However, they have managed to put the war behind
them and now even admit that the Axis was not all bad. Why
can't you look at the war with a little more objectivity?

Geoff Lupton

--
For parliamentary intrigue, we must substitute method, authority,
continuity and all that leadership alone can bring to the Nation.

					- Charles Maurras


From bj695@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Jul 31 09:38:57 PDT 1995
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From: bj695@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Geoff Lupton)
Subject: Re: Fascists are leftists
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Michel Vachon is correct in saying that Marxist-Leninists were in
violation of their own guru in failing to dismantle the State. In
this way the Communists were extremely dishonest the flawed
application of their own ideology. Of course, Marx himself was
naive in the extreme if he thought that the masses were innately
able to govern themselves.

Fascism, on the other hand, is much more specific in its reliance
on State authority. Mussolini justified State power in the name
of national unity, while Hitler employed the same to ensure the
destiny of Aryan man. Thus, fascism admits its reliance on the
State as an essential tool of its national mission in a much
more consistent and accurate way than Marxism ever did.

I, for one, do not necessarily see the use of State power as an
evil phenomenon. On the contrary, in the modern world, a strong
State is essential to ameliorate social differences and ensure
national unity and economic coordination. Thus, in its appraisal
of current reality and the challenges facing Western society,
fascists have a much more realistic strategy than communists.

Geoff Lupton

--
For parliamentary intrigue, we must substitute method, authority,
continuity and all that leadership alone can bring to the Nation.

					- Charles Maurras



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