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From: ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major)
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joelr@winternet.com (Joel Rosenberg) wrote:

>In article <31ec32b6.37408099@nntp.ix.netcom.com> ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major) writes:
>
>>Oh, can it, McVay! You're as prepared to come to grips with the
>>David Cole video interview of Dr. Fransiszek Piper as the devil
>>is prepared to cope with holy water.
>
>Well, then, since you folks have all that Carto money, why not make a zillion 
>copies of the video and give it away on every streetcorner?  Why not put it on 
>the net?

--------------------------------------------

Sorry to disappoint you, Joel, but Bradley Smith has NOTHING to do
with Willis Carto. Smith, like David Cole, has no truck with anti-
Smites ... and he happens to be married to a Mexican, who is
pure *India*, so there goes the racist-bigot come-back before
you make it. (Just thought I'd save you the effort.)



SEMPER FIDELIS (et Semper Prudens)!

           "Ursus Major"

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From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Wed Jul 17 23:47:14 PDT 1996
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From: ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major)
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Sounds a great deal like Nietzsche's description of
Last Man in *Ecce Homo*:

	Who wants to rule? Who obey?
       One herd and no shepherd!
        Anyone who disagrees goes freely to a madhouse!



SEMPER FIDELIS (et Semper Prudens)!

           "Ursus Major"

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From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Fri Jul 19 08:51:49 PDT 1996
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From: ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major)
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Subject: Re: Les Griswold would be an idiot, if only he'd smarten up
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joelr@winternet.com (Joel Rosenberg) wrote:

>In article <31ed0ac1.1454633@news> jfrane@teleport.com (Jeff Frane) writes:
>>From: jfrane@teleport.com (Jeff Frane)
>>Subject: Re: Joel Rosenberg is either an idiot...
>>Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 15:48:27 GMT
>
>>On 17 Jul 1996 02:16:44 GMT, bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
>>wrote:
>
>>>
>>>No, dummy.  They (Z.O.G.) are paying Egypt a reward for not de-stabilizing
>>>the Middle East.  If the damn Arabs can ever get their shit together, and
>>>the U.S. can be kept out of it, they (the Arabs) would roll over Israel in
>>>about, oh I'd say, Six Days.
>>>
>
>>hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahaha!!!!!
>
>>Just like in '67?
>
>Yeah.
>
>But it's a strange view of the world Les has, with his head stuck up his ass.  
>In Les' world, when the US gives money to Egypt, it's a favor to Israel; when 
>the US protects Kuwait and Saudia Arabia from Iraq, it's a favor to Israel.  
>
>
According to Joel Rosenberg, the U.S., Europe, and Japan are going to
run on gefillte-fish. The proper amount of foreign aid for ANYBODY is
ZERO. Whoever's got the oil will sell it. Let the Yids "discover" they
made a mistake: the Promised Land is actually located near Dhahran.
Who cares what happens in that sink-hole? just kikes and red-neck
Christians. A pox on both your houses!



SEMPER FIDELIS (et Semper Prudens)!

           "Ursus Major"

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From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Fri Jul 19 08:51:50 PDT 1996
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From: ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major)
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Subject: Re: Joel Rosenberg is either an idiot...
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bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:

>
>... or he's just PRETENDING he is.
>
>Jew Rosenboig (joelr@winternet.com) writes:
>> In article <31eae526.26847834@nntp.ix.netcom.com> ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major) writes:
>>>joelr@winternet.com (Joel Rosenberg) wrote:
>
>J.R.:
>>>>>What's this B.S. about "Egypt gets the same amount of aid?"
>>>>>Egypt has 20-times the population of *Eretz Israel*!
>>>>
>>>>Foreign aid is not given out on a per capita basis, or China would be 
>>>>receiving the lion's share.   
>
>Ursus Major:
>>>Of course not, it's doled out according to the pull inside
>>>Z.O.G. (the Zionist Occupation Government)! 
>> 
>> Ah.  And, of course, this ZOG you're so terrified of has a great affection
>> for Egypt, right?
>
>No, dummy.  They (Z.O.G.) are paying Egypt a reward for not de-stabilizing
>the Middle East.  If the damn Arabs can ever get their shit together, and
>the U.S. can be kept out of it, they (the Arabs) would roll over Israel in
>about, oh I'd say, Six Days.
>
>Les
>
>
Don't waste your time, Les. You're responding to one of the Chosen:
you know, those who'll wave a collection of myths and fairy-tails,
written about 3,000 years ago and tell you it's a Divine Grant Deed!

Not only is it a Divine Grant Deed, the Grantor is their tribal god,
Yaweh, who demands human sacrifices--every man, woman, child--
"everything that breathes" as payment. Check out the Jew book:
Deuteronomy xx 15-17. It right there in black and white. Leave
NOTHING alive: kill, KILL, KILL!!! That's their divinity. You want
to convince them? Save your key-strokes!



SEMPER FIDELIS (et Semper Prudens)!

           "Ursus Major"

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From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Fri Jul 19 08:51:51 PDT 1996
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From: ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major)
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Subject: Re: Torture White People This Is Funny!!! HA HA HA ONLY GOOD ONES
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an668660@anon.penet.fi wrote:


and you thought Jean Raspail was kidding and *Camp of the Saints*
a paranoid work ... read on, Liberal, read on!

TODAY SOUTH AFRICA, TOMORROW THE WORLD
(with the possible exception of Switzerland, which won't
let a Nigger in the country and doesn't succumb to the
Great White Suicide Manias)!!
                                         Semper Fi (et semper prudens)
                                                         U.M.

>[WARNING! RACISM AHEAD ---DELETE NOW!]
>
>
>
>White people are fucking trash and should be lined up and machine gunned!
>The White Race thinks IT is the ones that built North America. The White
>Race couldn't
>build dog shit unless someone else did the work!!!
>People were brought from Africa against their will and made to slave
>under 
>conditions that were as bad as the concentration camp inmates suffered
>under
>during World War Two. Finally, the slaves were released when it was seen that England
>and France were going to go to war with United States if they did not.
>The African-Americans were promised payment for their long years of cruel
>labor.
>THEY NEVER GOT IT! Now it is made fun of and called "forty acres and a
>mule".
>But these reparations were NEVER paid. They have been collecting interest
>ever
>since then and the people that built this country will get it back.
>
>In the meantime I hope all white people are killed!!! I hope their babies
>are fucking
>killed and have their heads smashed in with tire irons!! The so-called
>White race are the
>ones that have been responsible for 99% of the worlds wars! If EVER their
>was a race that
>should be EXTERMINATED it would be anyone who is WHITE!!! I think they should be made
>to lay down on the pavement in chains and have autos run over their
>heads. This is a good thing!
>Then all those on the pavement can see the tires come and crush the heads
>of those up the line.
>I like this. This is a good thing to happen. I think that some white
>people should be tortured before
>they are killed! I think they should be lined up in front of their
>children and we should make the 
>children WATCH as we torture their parents (then we kill the kids!).
>White women should be raped
>without mercy. This is a good thing. White women should be raped and tortured! They should have
>cooking utensils shoved in their vaginas! This is what should happen to
>ALL white women!!
>(The men should have their dicks cut off with chainsaws!)
>I think then we should take the white babies and put them in microwave
>ovens. Its the funniest thing
>that we could do. All those white babies crying as we cook them to death
>[NOTE: I AM NOT SAYING 
>YOU SHOULD DO THIS! DO NOT DO THIS! I AM SAYING THAT WE CHANGE THE LAWS
>TO MAKE
>THIS LEGAL TO DO! WAIT UNTIL THE PEOPLE OF THE WORLD RISE UP AND
>OVERTHROW THE
>WHITE MONSTERS---LETS DO IT TOGETHER!]
>Lets rise up as a race and kill all the people who have been responsible
>for all the worlds wars. This
>may seem like a 'cruel' thing to do, but it is in the best interests of
>our children, to save them from
>the holocaust that White People do every generation!!! I hope they are
>ALL tortured!!! 
>
>
>This is a good thing.
>
>
>
>THAT IS ALL
>
>
>
>
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From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Fri Jul 19 08:51:51 PDT 1996
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From: ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major)
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ncrccjc@ibm.net (Bernie Farber) wrote:

>
>>If Bradley Smith had your funding, he put with whole video on the
>>Net as an AVI. All you can do is get Goldhagen to outdo Junius
>>Streicher in outrageous libels. Holocaustomania has become so
>>paranoid that Spielberg--Spielberg, yet!--was labelled an "anti-
>>Semite," because there's a wolf-character in the animated film
>>that speaks with a Yiddish accent.
>
>Bernie Farber responds:

Attention was called to the comment by Rabbi Meyer Schiller (I
believe), who rightfully remarked, "'anti-Semite' used to means
someone who disliked Jews; now it seems to mean someone
*certain* Jews happen to dislike!'."

Further, following Randy Andy's reasoning:

1)	Menachim Begin directed the Irgun
2)	The Irgun murdered every inhabitant of Deir Yassin;
3)	therefore, Menachim Begin was a mass-murderer.

"It's called Guilt by Association" Randy Andy proclaims;
    no doubt ignorant of the fact--as he is ignorant of all facts--
    that "Guilt by Association" is universally condemned as
    a travesty of justice.

The I.H.R. broke with Willis Carto because it REFUSED to
follow Carto's rabid anti-Semitism. Several active members
of the I.H.R. are Jewish, including (but not limited to) David
Cole, Sam Konkin and Lilienthal.

Orthodox Rabbi Meyer Schiller, who teaches at a Yeshiva in
NYC, is closely affilliated with *American Renaissance*, a
periodical and organization dedicated to the restoration and
preservation of the European identity of the U.S. (Rabbi
Schiller made TWO trips to South Africa, imploring the Whites
not to cave in to the ANC terrorists. The video and audio tapes
of the AR Convention are sold by I.H.R. (Care to comment on
"guilt by association" or "racism," Andy?)

If one connects in with Greg Ravin's web site, he is immediately
informed that "hate speech," whether of the Metzger or Goldhagen
variety will NOT be tolerated. That is not the message presented by
Nizkor, which informs the True Believer in Holocaustomania, that
"reason" is not sufficient when dealing with the "truth" (i.e. dogma).
A profound utterance of High Priestess Deborah Lipstadt, who has
extremely unkind words for Yahuda Bauer.
   But why is this being pursued here. Wouldn't it be more fiting for
alt.revisionism: the consumate *hazerei* of newsgroups?


    

SEMPER FIDELIS (et Semper Prudens)!

           "Ursus Major"

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From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Fri Jul 19 08:51:52 PDT 1996
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From: ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major)
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Subject: Re: They came to kill
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Peace@Earth.com (Peace Warrior) wrote:

>      First they came to kill the Jews
>      But I did nothing because I am not a Jew
>
>      Then they came to kill the Blacks
>      But I did nothing because I am not a Black
>
>      Then they came to kill the Asians
>      But I did nothing because I am not Asian
>
>      Then they came to kill the Hispanics
>      But still, I did nothing because I am not Hispanic
>
>      Then they came to kill ME
>      And there was nobody left to help save my life......
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

What did "THEY" use to kill with, new-improved
RAID? Is it really that successful with vermin and
dimwitted plagerists? Let's hope it doesn't leave traces
like HCn (aka Zyklon-B); otherwise, it may be proven
it never happened.

(The Internet shouldn't be censored. Dim-witted dorks
should not be allowed to purchase a modem!)



SEMPER FIDELIS (et Semper Prudens)!

           "Ursus Major"

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From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Fri Jul 19 08:53:35 PDT 1996
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ncrccjc@ibm.net (Bernie Farber) wrote:

>
>>If Bradley Smith had your funding, he put with whole video on the
>>Net as an AVI. All you can do is get Goldhagen to outdo Junius
>>Streicher in outrageous libels. Holocaustomania has become so
>>paranoid that Spielberg--Spielberg, yet!--was labelled an "anti-
>>Semite," because there's a wolf-character in the animated film
>>that speaks with a Yiddish accent.
>
>Bernie Farber responds:

Attention was called to the comment by Rabbi Meyer Schiller (I
believe), who rightfully remarked, "'anti-Semite' used to means
someone who disliked Jews; now it seems to mean someone
*certain* Jews happen to dislike!'."

Further, following Randy Andy's reasoning:

1)	Menachim Begin directed the Irgun
2)	The Irgun murdered every inhabitant of Deir Yassin;
3)	therefore, Menachim Begin was a mass-murderer.

"It's called Guilt by Association" Randy Andy proclaims;
    no doubt ignorant of the fact--as he is ignorant of all facts--
    that "Guilt by Association" is universally condemned as
    a travesty of justice.

The I.H.R. broke with Willis Carto because it REFUSED to
follow Carto's rabid anti-Semitism. Several active members
of the I.H.R. are Jewish, including (but not limited to) David
Cole, Sam Konkin and Lilienthal.

Orthodox Rabbi Meyer Schiller, who teaches at a Yeshiva in
NYC, is closely affilliated with *American Renaissance*, a
periodical and organization dedicated to the restoration and
preservation of the European identity of the U.S. (Rabbi
Schiller made TWO trips to South Africa, imploring the Whites
not to cave in to the ANC terrorists. The video and audio tapes
of the AR Convention are sold by I.H.R. (Care to comment on
"guilt by association" or "racism," Andy?)

If one connects in with Greg Ravin's web site, he is immediately
informed that "hate speech," whether of the Metzger or Goldhagen
variety will NOT be tolerated. That is not the message presented by
Nizkor, which informs the True Believer in Holocaustomania, that
"reason" is not sufficient when dealing with the "truth" (i.e. dogma).
A profound utterance of High Priestess Deborah Lipstadt, who has
extremely unkind words for Yahuda Bauer.
   But why is this being pursued here. Wouldn't it be more fiting for
alt.revisionism: the consumate *hazerei* of newsgroups?


    

SEMPER FIDELIS (et Semper Prudens)!

           "Ursus Major"

====================================


From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Fri Jul 19 16:19:43 PDT 1996
Article: 51430 of alt.revisionism
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From: ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major)
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eldavo@oanet.com (El Davo) wrote:

>In article <4rfdaf$io3@tribune.concentric.net>, schoedel@alaska.net says...
>>
>>Friends and others:
>>
>>Effective 23:10 EDT, 3 July 1996, the portion of the Christian Identity
>>Online website known as "World Jewry Exposed" has been dismantled and
>>removed from our website.  
>>
>>This is the latest step in my continual re-evaluation of my efforts and
>>my materials.  If World Jewry Exposed has caused any harm in any way,
>>may Yahweh Almighty forgive me.
>>
>>Rev. Ronald C. Schoedel
>>a/k/a Country Ron
>>
Merely a "Reverend"? How mundane! Certainly you can do better than
that! How about "Archimandrite"? (That would send them scurrying off
to *The O.E.D.*!) "Pontifex Maximus" would be somewhat overblown;
if the Pope stole it from the Romans, you could steal it back. "Apos-
tolic Legate" has the benefit of being original. A mere "Reverend"?
Pooh! One can buy that for $10 from the Universal Life Church, a
valid California religious corporation, which includes the impressive
embossed certificate, with Olde English black-type in all the right
places. "Evangelical Webcrawler" would be more accurate--but it
sounds like a type of spider. Hmmm... that would make it even MORE
accurate, *ne pas*?

No one should EVER use an ecclesiastical honorific on the Net. Bad
form, indeed. But if you have to be a Yaweh-Shaman, perhaps you can
provide an exegesis on Deuteronomy xx 15-17: you know, that portion of
the Torah in which Yaweh demands the total extermination of all the
inhabitants of *Eretz Israel*: men, women, young, old, babies: every-
thing that breathes! Those of the Mosaic Confession who slither about
here don't like to be reminded of that portion of their Torah;, and
when reminded of it, REFUSE to discuss it. Perhaps your Evangelical
Excellenz could have a go at it.



SEMPER FIDELIS (et Semper Prudens)!

           "Ursus Major"

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From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Fri Jul 19 17:18:46 PDT 1996
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tstone@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Trevor Stone) wrote:

>In article <4rpmje$agb@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com>,
>Charles Freedberg  wrote:
>>
>> The Law of Inequality
>>
>>Those races which evolved in the more demanding environment of the
>>North, where surviving a winter required planning and self-discipline,
>>advanced more rapidly in the development of the higher mental faculties
>>-- including the abilities to 
>>conceptualize, to solve problems, to plan for the future, and to
>>postpone gratification -- than those which remained in the relatively
>>unvarying climate of the tropics.
>>
>>				There we have it then.  The Eskimos are the 
>>                master race!


Notice the INTENTIONAL subtle distortion here (which is why Yockey
called them "the Culture-Distorters"). Freedberg wrote MORE Demanding,
but Stone has changed this to MOST Demanding, and then proceeded
to ridicule the analysis BASED ON INTENTIONAL DISTORTION!

Obviously, no culture can arise when the environment is so hostile
that all effort must be directed toward survival. The MORE demanding
environment mandates the need for planning ahead: forethought. And
what is the ancient Greek word for forethought? It's PROMETHEUS!
That's what *prometheus* means: FORETHOUGHT.

All VERMIN like Stone know how to do is to DISTORT and then
ridicule based upon their intentional perversion of meaning. Once
the light of Knowledge is turned on them, these intellectual cock-
roaches scurry for dark corners, which is their natural habitat.



SEMPER FIDELIS (et Semper Prudens)!

           "Ursus Major"

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fresh@panix.com (Andrew Mathis) wrote:

>yusuf921@harrier.csrv.uidaho.edu (Syed Yusuf) wrote:
>
>>Thus spake Andrew Mathis (fresh@panix.com):
>
>>> but at the same time, it's also true that Messiah is supposed to
>>> reinstate a Jewish monarchy in the Land of Israel.  So it's political
>>> as well.
>
>>Pslam 110 David calls him MY LORD not MY SON.
>>Therefor the Messiah will NOT be David's decendant
>
>>the Messiah will come from Paran (Habb 3:3)
>>   [where is Paran? Arabia (cf Gen 21:20-21)]
>>the Messiah will return the Arabs to Monotheism (cf Isa 41)
>>   ONLY MUHAMMED RETURNED THE ARABS TO MONOTHEISM and Kedar no longer exists.
>>if Isa 42 is NOT fullfiled by Muhammed and by Muhammed alone, it never will
>>be.
>
>If you are a Muslim and are suggesting that Muhammad was the Messiah
>and/or was the son of God, I don't Allah would be too pleased.  That's
>NOT the Muslim p.o.v.; in fact, it's idolatry, and a one-way ticket to
>Hell.
>
>Andrew
>

Or a Concentration Camp for dispossessed
Palestinians--which is the same thing, really.



SEMPER FIDELIS (et Semper Prudens)!

           "Ursus Major"

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kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC) wrote:

>In article <31ef37f4.2891746@nntp.ix.netcom.com>, 
>ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major) wrote:
>
>>thing that breathes! Those of the Mosaic Confession who slither about
>>here don't like to be reminded of that portion of their Torah;, and
>>when reminded of it, REFUSE to discuss it. Perhaps your Evangelical
>>Excellenz could have a go at it.
>
>Isn't Lehmann a Jewish name, George?
>
>>SEMPER FIDELIS (et Semper Prudens)!
>
>Glad I'm not in the Corps anymore, George.
>

No, it's a name common to Yiddish and German. (Yiddish
is basically a German dialect: very much like that spoken in
the Breisgau and Switzerland, with some Hebrew and Slavic
words added in.) Yiddish, however, uses the Hebrew alphabet,
so "Lehmann" usually comes out "Lehman" when transliterated.
Then again, many Americans of German extraction dropped the
second "n," especially during the 1917 pogrom.
   Whether German-German or Jewish-German (which is what
"Yiddish" actually means), the name is a very old term for, basically,
a share-cropper: not a serf, but one who paid the overlord in kind,
rather than money-rent: about 3-4 rungs from the bottom of the feudal
pyramid. The German-Jewish banking house of Lehman Brothers used
that spelling, as did the non-Jewish former Sec. of the Navy. The
famous sopranos of the 19th (Lilli, who is a distant relative) and
Lotte (who is not, but taught at Santa Barbara for many years) used
the other spelling.
   Names are very a very unreliable standard. Look at Alfred Rosen-
berg. With a name like that, one would automatically assume he was
Jewish. It turns out he wasn't--or at least his "employers" were con-
vinced he wasn't. Although it doesn't seem he did much of anything--
his position as "metaphysician in residence" (or something equally
silly) sufficed to get him hanged at Nuremberg. But it didn't take
much to warrant that distinction. A whole bevy of Germans were
executed for the Katyn Massacre (which the Brits and Americans
knew very well was a bit of Soviet pranking).
    I think if you look around this newgroup, you'll see that a good
half-dozen or more times I've posted about my correspondence
with Rabbi Meyer Schiller. Remarkable man: very committed to the
preservation of the European High Culture. (But then you should have--
well, if not you, one of your minions--should have noticed my state-
ment about Mozart and Israel.)  No big coup, you know; merely a
well-funded organization and a mono-mania. Who's ever denied those?

As for not being in the Corps. That's basically a young man's game.
Good for character building, but the wrong MOS can prove negative.



SEMPER FIDELIS (et Semper Prudens)!

           "Ursus Major"

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dynasor@infi.net (Dennis McClain-Furmanski) wrote:

>On 07-17-96, ursus_m@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> 
> > Excuse me, but is this still "alt.politics.nationalism.white" --
> 
>No. We had spiritual communion with racial theorist and he instructed us
>to change the name to alt.mealy-mouthed.hose-bags.with.no.life
> 
> > DISTEMPER FIDOLIS (eat Sum Pruens)!
> 
>I'm sorry, I just can't figure that one out.
> 
>You may now begin to rub up against this newsgroup to mark your territory.
> 
> * 2qwk! 2.0 * Earth was interesting, and worth the money I paid for it.
> 

Looks like you need to find a new vendor of recreational drugs.
Avoid using a keyboard in the midst of *delirium tremens*.
Take a bath or shower at least once a month,
    and stay down-wind from those who receive no funding from Nizkor!



SEMPER FIDELIS (et Semper Prudens)!

           "Ursus Major"

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shemhamforash@usa.pipeline.com(Yankee Rose) wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> 
>Rules of life 
> 
>  1.  Xtianity is alien to White Aryan values 
> 
>  2. The "anti-capitalism" bullshit inherit in most "fascist" point of
>views is really marxist/jewish equality mongering.Anarcho-Capitalism is the
>way of the future 
> 
> 
>   3.Hail Satan

Without discussing your stunning prose (I assume it's prose and not
poetry--have to check with M. Jourdan about that), would you please
be a little more explicit as to what "Anarcho-Capitalism" is / should
be / might have been, if Alice hadn't consumed the bottle labelled
"Drink Me!"?

Thanks!



SEMPER FIDELIS (et Semper Prudens)!

           "Ursus Major"

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skk@pa.dec.com (Stuart Kreitman) wrote:

>>Notice the INTENTIONAL subtle distortion here (which is why Yockey
>... here uranus major so sincerely engages in the pot-kettle-black smokescreen
>I just had to laugh.
>
>You have a great set of truths to share with the world? Then why
>lower yourself to name calling? Perhaps for the same reason you
>sprinkle a bit of Latin and a bit of Yiddush in your postings. If I 
>were to compare you to an animal, it would be a blowfish that puffs out 
>its scales in order to appear bigger than it is.  We know the blowfish is
>hollow inside - everyone's seen a dried out specimin.
>
>No, you're not one of those intellectual cockroaches scurrying for
>dark corners!  No mind that you post anonymously or that you
>slip into rages, using that old caps-lock key LIBERALLY.  We still are 
>highly impressed with your knowledge of the odd ancient Greek word or two.  
>"Gee, Martha, that boy ken talk purty. I bet he went to college in the East."
>
>So, Ursus, you've established your exceptionally strong feelings
>and devotion to the truth.  I'd like to know concretely how your own life
>has been touched by the issues you're writing about.  Please tell
>us how you've been thwarted in the full flowering of your legendary Aryan
>heritage by all those bad guys(tm) 

I would hardly call one word capitalized in lieu of an italic font
excessive, any more than "Yiddush" [sic] makes you a de-facto dolt.
Malicious yes, a dolt no. You've taken the material totally out of
context, resorting once again to your favorite stategem: Distortion.
You thrive on it, like a dung-beetle thrives on dung. You can only
mock those better educated and possessing more insight.

Mockery and distortion are your hemlock and stiletto. Your rancid
viciousness reveals you are incapable of laughter. You've been
exposed: no new clothes at all, merely naked envy. And so you're
forced to resort to mockery, lest analysis reveal even more of your
intentional perfidy. 

The Latin and Greek came from the Jesuits, the Yiddish from my
neighbors. I've managed to insulate myself against vermin like you,
the carriers of spiritual Ebola. My empathy is for those I've seen
destroyed by your mentors, the Great Levellers, who would drag
everyone and everything down: Nietzsche's Last Man, Banality
Incarnate. You can't discuss the issues, you don't dare--and so
you resort to *ad hominum* victictive. Were you and your type
not so malicious, you would engender empathy. But you ARE
malicious--and this merely makes you smerk.





SEMPER FIDELIS (et Semper Prudens)!

           "Ursus Major"

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shemhamforash@usa.pipeline.com(Yankee Rose) wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> 
>Rules of life 
> 
>  1.  Xtianity is alien to White Aryan values 
> 
>  2. The "anti-capitalism" bullshit inherit in most "fascist" point of
>views is really marxist/jewish equality mongering.Anarcho-Capitalism is the
>way of the future 
> 
> 
>   3.Hail Satan

Without discussing your stunning prose (I assume it's prose and not
poetry--have to check with M. Jourdan about that), would you please
be a little more explicit as to what "Anarcho-Capitalism" is / should
be / might have been, if Alice hadn't consumed the bottle labelled
"Drink Me!"?

Thanks!



SEMPER FIDELIS (et Semper Prudens)!

           "Ursus Major"

====================================


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skk@pa.dec.com (Stuart Kreitman) wrote:

>>Notice the INTENTIONAL subtle distortion here (which is why Yockey
>... here uranus major so sincerely engages in the pot-kettle-black smokescreen
>I just had to laugh.
>
>You have a great set of truths to share with the world? Then why
>lower yourself to name calling? Perhaps for the same reason you
>sprinkle a bit of Latin and a bit of Yiddush in your postings. If I 
>were to compare you to an animal, it would be a blowfish that puffs out 
>its scales in order to appear bigger than it is.  We know the blowfish is
>hollow inside - everyone's seen a dried out specimin.
>
>No, you're not one of those intellectual cockroaches scurrying for
>dark corners!  No mind that you post anonymously or that you
>slip into rages, using that old caps-lock key LIBERALLY.  We still are 
>highly impressed with your knowledge of the odd ancient Greek word or two.  
>"Gee, Martha, that boy ken talk purty. I bet he went to college in the East."
>
>So, Ursus, you've established your exceptionally strong feelings
>and devotion to the truth.  I'd like to know concretely how your own life
>has been touched by the issues you're writing about.  Please tell
>us how you've been thwarted in the full flowering of your legendary Aryan
>heritage by all those bad guys(tm) 

I would hardly call one word capitalized in lieu of an italic font
excessive, any more than "Yiddush" [sic] makes you a de-facto dolt.
Malicious yes, a dolt no. You've taken the material totally out of
context, resorting once again to your favorite stategem: Distortion.
You thrive on it, like a dung-beetle thrives on dung. You can only
mock those better educated and possessing more insight.

Mockery and distortion are your hemlock and stiletto. Your rancid
viciousness reveals you are incapable of laughter. You've been
exposed: no new clothes at all, merely naked envy. And so you're
forced to resort to mockery, lest analysis reveal even more of your
intentional perfidy. 

The Latin and Greek came from the Jesuits, the Yiddish from my
neighbors. I've managed to insulate myself against vermin like you,
the carriers of spiritual Ebola. My empathy is for those I've seen
destroyed by your mentors, the Great Levellers, who would drag
everyone and everything down: Nietzsche's Last Man, Banality
Incarnate. You can't discuss the issues, you don't dare--and so
you resort to *ad hominum* victictive. Were you and your type
not so malicious, you would engender empathy. But you ARE
malicious--and this merely makes you smerk.





SEMPER FIDELIS (et Semper Prudens)!

           "Ursus Major"

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From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Sat Jul 20 09:47:21 PDT 1996
Article: 68647 of alt.conspiracy
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dynasor@infi.net (Dennis McClain-Furmanski) wrote:

>On 07-17-96, ursus_m@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> 
> > Excuse me, but is this still "alt.politics.nationalism.white" --
> 
>No. We had spiritual communion with racial theorist and he instructed us
>to change the name to alt.mealy-mouthed.hose-bags.with.no.life
> 
> > DISTEMPER FIDOLIS (eat Sum Pruens)!
> 
>I'm sorry, I just can't figure that one out.
> 
>You may now begin to rub up against this newsgroup to mark your territory.
> 
> * 2qwk! 2.0 * Earth was interesting, and worth the money I paid for it.
> 

Looks like you need to find a new vendor of recreational drugs.
Avoid using a keyboard in the midst of *delirium tremens*.
Take a bath or shower at least once a month,
    and stay down-wind from those who receive no funding from Nizkor!



SEMPER FIDELIS (et Semper Prudens)!

           "Ursus Major"

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From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Sat Jul 20 09:55:12 PDT 1996
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dynasor@infi.net (Dennis McClain-Furmanski) wrote:

>On 07-17-96, ursus_m@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> 
> > Excuse me, but is this still "alt.politics.nationalism.white" --
> 
>No. We had spiritual communion with racial theorist and he instructed us
>to change the name to alt.mealy-mouthed.hose-bags.with.no.life
> 
> > DISTEMPER FIDOLIS (eat Sum Pruens)!
> 
>I'm sorry, I just can't figure that one out.
> 
>You may now begin to rub up against this newsgroup to mark your territory.
> 
> * 2qwk! 2.0 * Earth was interesting, and worth the money I paid for it.
> 

Looks like you need to find a new vendor of recreational drugs.
Avoid using a keyboard in the midst of *delirium tremens*.
Take a bath or shower at least once a month,
    and stay down-wind from those who receive no funding from Nizkor!



SEMPER FIDELIS (et Semper Prudens)!

           "Ursus Major"

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From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Sat Jul 20 09:55:13 PDT 1996
Article: 32277 of alt.skinheads
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From: ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major)
Newsgroups: alt.satanism,alt.skinheads,alt.politics.white-power,alt.politics.nationalism.white
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shemhamforash@usa.pipeline.com(Yankee Rose) wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> 
>Rules of life 
> 
>  1.  Xtianity is alien to White Aryan values 
> 
>  2. The "anti-capitalism" bullshit inherit in most "fascist" point of
>views is really marxist/jewish equality mongering.Anarcho-Capitalism is the
>way of the future 
> 
> 
>   3.Hail Satan

Without discussing your stunning prose (I assume it's prose and not
poetry--have to check with M. Jourdan about that), would you please
be a little more explicit as to what "Anarcho-Capitalism" is / should
be / might have been, if Alice hadn't consumed the bottle labelled
"Drink Me!"?

Thanks!



SEMPER FIDELIS (et Semper Prudens)!

           "Ursus Major"

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From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Sat Jul 20 12:21:26 PDT 1996
Article: 51661 of alt.revisionism
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From: ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major)
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Subject: Re: Keeping Neighborhoods Jewish (ADV)
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iznogod  wrote:

>	It seems to me that Mr.Strom's using of Charles Lindberg's phrase 
>is a sign of the outdated Nordic doctrine. I am referring  to Lindberg's 
>quote that Persians are somehow a foreign 'non-white' peoples. 

You must have been reading too much put out by the Ayatollah.
The Third Reich was very pro-Iranian, and Shah Reza Pahlavi (not
his real name, but one which played well with the masses) was so
pro-German, he was forced to yield the throne to his son. Still, the
Russian occupied Iranian Azerbaijan [sp?], until Truman issued an
ultimatum. I personally knew two "Medes" at UCLA: dark red hair,
green eyes and a Mediterranian coloration. Certainly a lot fairer than
many a resident of Marsailles or Palermo. Very intelligent too: they
were well aware that the anti-Shah agitation being enacted by Or-
wellian sheep and that reactionary theocrats were the motivating
factors. They convinced their families to move as much as possible
to Switzerland, with the result that those who were screaming, "Down
with the Shah!" are now, for the most part, driving taxis.



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           "Ursus Major"

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From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Sat Jul 20 14:53:17 PDT 1996
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From: ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major)
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joelr@winternet.com (Joel Rosenberg) wrote:

>In article <4sih83$smb@opera.iinet.net.au> reverend@iinet.net.au (peter wheeler) writes:
>
>>>>>Why not discuss it here?  Who cares about Ken McVay?
>>>> 
>>>> Have you ever seen his photo. Talk about 1970's retro....
>
>>>I've seen him in *person*, and I'm still unsure as to what this has to do
>>>with his intelligence, insight, and ability to repudiate anything *you're*
>>>likely to come up with...  Care to enlighten me?
>
>>>> Wide unfashionable Lapels, Wide unfashionable tie, (probably flares).
>>>> Long Hippyish Hair, spaced out look.
>
>>>...and this has *what* to do with his intelligence, insight, and ability
>>>to repudiate anything the likes of you has thus far been able to spew
>>>around here?
>
>>How would you know what I've said?? Oh thats right, you can just
>>access your analy-retentive hero McVay's Nikzor site and read up on us
>>all. 
>
>If you don't like the taste of your own words, you probably shouldn't let all 
>that shit spew out of your mouth. 
>
>(That's kind of a metaphor, you know?)
>
Yes, Joel, we know: YOUR KIND!



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           "Ursus Major"

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From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Sat Jul 20 16:59:59 PDT 1996
Article: 25789 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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inventor@nyc.pipeline.com(International Headquarters) wrote:

>The International Institute of Mental Health is conducting a major 
>long term study to determine if Jew (Zionist) hatred can be traced 
>to  genetic  factors, environmental factors, or a combination of 
>genetic and environmental factors. 
> 
> 
>Research subjects with Jew (Zionist) Hatred Disorder are needed. 
>Subjects may be inpatients or outpatients, and must have an I.Q. 
>level no higher than 70 (we will study the intellectual Jew haters in 
>a future study i.e., those that have an I.Q. level between 70 and 90). 
> 
> 
>Participants are always in high demand, and will be amply reimbursed 
>for their inconvenience. 
> 
>If you meet the qualifications please reply.   
>Thank you. 
> 
>Frederick Guddart, M.D., Ph.D. 
>Director of The Center of Neuroscience, 
>Behavior, and Society 
>International Institute of Mental Health 

You forgot to supply the address, Dum-Dum!

666 Rahob Menachim Begin
Deir Yassin, Israel.

There, that should do it!



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           "Ursus Major"

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From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Sat Jul 20 17:34:16 PDT 1996
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anakin@pinc.com (Rajiv K. Gandhi) wrote:

>In article <4sq3it$dhj@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com>, mgiwer@ix.netcom.com
>(Matt  Giwer) wrote:
>
>[stuff deleted]
>
>>         But you harrassed a fellow Marine in his 80s and very close to the end
>> just to get my phone number.
>
>Not to speak for Mr. McVay, but you have not substantiated this claim in
>any aspect.
>
>[1 insult, two threats deleted]
>
>
>>         Mr. McVay, my terms are very simple.  
>
>Not simple, not even well though out.
>
>>         EVERY mention of me disappears from NIZKOR without expection in any
>> manner or form, period, no exceptions.  Not even oblique references or
>> secondary quotations.  EVERYTHING goes as though it never existed.  
>
>The references to you in Nizkor are in the form of messages posted by
>yourself in a public forum, and also contain the various replies refuting
>your various assertions. The articles you posted are not used for monetary
>or personal gain by either McVay or Nizkor. They serve as reference
>material. You would be hardpressed to force Nizkor to delete the articles
>you wrote and posted to a public forum. For you to expect Nizkor to delete
>every reference to you is, to the point of sounding repetitive, stupid.
>Especially quotations and oblique references, which without question
>constitute fair use.
>
>>         You publically post that you will take action and that you do take
>> action against anyone who contacts any member of my family or me in any
>> derogatory manner save via this newsgroup.  
>
>You cannot force McVay to take action against third parties over whom he
>has no control for their actions against you. That is just plain absurd.
>
>>         That you do not play lawyer and find a way to circumvent these terms.
>
>I'd suggest that you try talking to a lawyer to find out just where you
>stand legally, because you obviously have no idea.
>
>>         Is that clear enough?
>
>As mud.
>
>>         Or shall I spell it out further?  
>
>Can you spell ? Can you even read for that matter ?
>
>>         If I have to spell it out further, unspecified penalities will be
>>          invoked.  
>
>See, this is wnat I mean when I say you have no idea how the law works.
>For you to get any compensation from McVay or Nizkor for your claim,
>ludicrous that it is, you will have to PROVE that you suffered some
>damages to your person, to your employment, to your reputation because of
>something McVay or Nizkor did. You cannot 'invoke unspecified penalities.'
>
>>         I hope this is clear.  
>
>It is clear only that you are an idiot.

I speak a little Yiddish and can read more, when transliterated into
the Roman alphabet. Alas, I don't know the Yiddish for "bitchy!
bitchy! bitchy!"---so I'll have to make do with *F[v]erblunget*,
meaning "totally crazy."

I wish you paragons of integrity would STOP cross-posting.
The title of THIS newsgroup is "alt.politics.nationalism.white" --
not "white-power, revisionism," nor is there "flame" in the title.
Make a text file out of your pearls of wisdom and post them,
one by one, to the category which applies.

Or does that smack too much of civilized behavior?



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pst@alpha2.csd.uwm.edu (Peter Stephen Thomas III) wrote:

>Ursus Major (ursus_m@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
>: shemhamforash@usa.pipeline.com(Yankee Rose) wrote:
>: Without discussing your stunning prose (I assume it's prose and not
>: poetry--have to check with M. Jourdan about that), would you please
>: be a little more explicit as to what "Anarcho-Capitalism" is / should
>: be / might have been, if Alice hadn't consumed the bottle labelled
>: "Drink Me!"?
>: 
>: ====================================
>
>"anarcho-capitalism" is just Libertarianism with the serial numbers filed
>off.  Try reading "The Reality Broach" by  O'Neil and it'll explain it all.
>
>Peter THomas

I thought that was RADICAL Libertarianism?
When did it get a name change (nose job, face peel)?



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pst@alpha2.csd.uwm.edu (Peter Stephen Thomas III) wrote:

>Ursus Major (ursus_m@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
>: shemhamforash@usa.pipeline.com(Yankee Rose) wrote:
>: Without discussing your stunning prose (I assume it's prose and not
>: poetry--have to check with M. Jourdan about that), would you please
>: be a little more explicit as to what "Anarcho-Capitalism" is / should
>: be / might have been, if Alice hadn't consumed the bottle labelled
>: "Drink Me!"?
>: 
>: ====================================
>
>"anarcho-capitalism" is just Libertarianism with the serial numbers filed
>off.  Try reading "The Reality Broach" by  O'Neil and it'll explain it all.
>
>Peter THomas

I thought that was RADICAL Libertarianism?
When did it get a name change (nose job, face peel)?



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From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Sun Jul 21 13:58:57 PDT 1996
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From: ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major)
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pst@alpha2.csd.uwm.edu (Peter Stephen Thomas III) wrote:

>Ursus Major (ursus_m@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
>: shemhamforash@usa.pipeline.com(Yankee Rose) wrote:
>: Without discussing your stunning prose (I assume it's prose and not
>: poetry--have to check with M. Jourdan about that), would you please
>: be a little more explicit as to what "Anarcho-Capitalism" is / should
>: be / might have been, if Alice hadn't consumed the bottle labelled
>: "Drink Me!"?
>: 
>: ====================================
>
>"anarcho-capitalism" is just Libertarianism with the serial numbers filed
>off.  Try reading "The Reality Broach" by  O'Neil and it'll explain it all.
>
>Peter THomas

I thought that was RADICAL Libertarianism?
When did it get a name change (nose job, face peel)?



SEMPER FIDELIS (et Semper Prudens)!

           "Ursus Major"

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From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Mon Jul 22 02:15:58 PDT 1996
Article: 52036 of alt.revisionism
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From: ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.revisionism,alt.politics.white-power
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bulkrate  wrote:

>
>
>On Sat, 20 Jul 1996, Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:
>> 
>> I couldn't disagree with you more about Jews, however. Despite their 
>> ongoing genetic Europeanization, their intense separatism and 
>> "include-me-out" attitude when it comes to sharing the fate of their host 
>> populations makes _our_ views on the subject moot.
>> 
>
>They could not share the fate, because in many respects they were
>excluded from it. From what I've heard, jews were prohibited from
>owning any land, or buildings outside of small, urban ghetto areas.

That's only partially true. In many cases,  the restriction of the
Jews to certain areas was at the request of the Jewish leaders.
Twice in their long (and often facified) history, the Jew nearly
disappeared. When the Kingdom of Israel was overrun, most of
the Jewish tribes simply melted into the rest of the Middle East.
When the Jewish leaders (the numbers are absurdly exaggerated
in the Old Testament) returned from "internment" in Babylon (through
the good offices of Cyrus), they no longer spoke Hebrew nor did
the people. Hebrew became a liturgical language and remained so
until it was revived for Israel.
    Apartheid has become a fixation. When it hasn't been imposed, it's
been voluntary. Judaism isn't JUST a religion. Show me a pure religion
where one can say, "Oh yes, I subscribe to that canon and had at least
one grandparent who also did!"--and receive instant citizenship.



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           "Ursus Major"

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From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Wed Jul 24 18:29:36 PDT 1996
Article: 37008 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major)
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mkasaroc@Phoenix.kent.edu (odinn) wrote:

>Blackjack (blackjack@jolly-roger.com) wrote:
>: shemhamforash@usa.pipeline.com(Yankee Rose) wrote:
>
>: > 
>: > 
>: > 
>: > 
>: >Rules of life 
>: > 
>: >  1.  Xtianity is alien to White Aryan values 
>
>: Which is why a lot of Aryans are Shiite Muslims and Hindus.
>
>: Blackjack
>
>
>
>asatru is a real aryan religion, (norse mythology)
>, 
>which was created out of the minds of the germanic common people....
>
>christianity is just an extension of judaism and jewish values...--

You're correct in saying that Christianity is an "Export Model" of
Judaism (with neo-Platonic custom body work); however, you ignore
the ARYAN mystical philosophy which totally triumphed in the Orient:
Buddhism.

The Gautama was an Aryan prince: genetically unpolluted by contact
with the Dravidian residents of India. He lived at the time the Indo-
Aryan culture was at its apex. (He was an exact contemporary of
Confuctius, although neither was aware of the other.) He brought a
refinement to the Hindu Aryan pantheon which elevated it to a
mysto-philosophical creed of universal appeal.

It was this creed, which has an affinity with that developed indepen-
dently by Epicurus in Greece, which totally overwhelmed the Orient:
Buddhism is THE "religion" in China, Japan, and South-East Asia.
Christianity has never made significant progress in these areas. (The
idea of a "revealed" religion being rather absurd to the Orientals.)
But like Western classical music, the unsullied Aryan philosophy of
a princeling was adopted with enthusiasm.

The Buddha preached that by eliminating desire, one could achieve
Nirvana: unity with the Godhead. Epicurus stated one will achieve it
under all circumstances; therefore, he should avoid disappointment.
(The idea that Epicureanism is merely hedonism is totally false. Epi-
curus understood the difference between joy and sensualism, ad-
vancing the former and eschewing the latter, because the sexual-
ist is never satisfied. "It matters not WHAT we eat," Epicurus wrote,
"but rather with WHOM." Bread and cheese with good companions
is far better than a banquet among the superficial and disinterested.

The Aryan has never been truly comfortable with Christianity. It runs
counter to his spirit. The periodic outbursts of anti-Semitism stem 
>from  this incompatibility: the Western Aryan should not waste his
time nor taint his worldview by reading collected Jewish folklore
and mythology, put together and described as "Holy." It's as "holy"
as the *Illiad* or the *Volsungsaga*. It's better known. A mistake!
Who care who "begat" blah-blah-blah. That's alien folklore befit
for aliens. That it was incorporated into the West at the point of
the sword was a dreadful occurance.

The elite of the 18th century redicovered Epicureanism and adopted
it under the name of "Deism." It's important, because The United
States was founded by Deists (neo-Epicureans). The first three pres-
idents and Benjamin Franklin were unabashed Deists. Even though
John Adams and Thomas Jefferson were political rivals, they shared
a common religion, neo-Epicureanism, and became close friends in
their old age, mainly due to this bond.

Those who howl about "Secular Humanism" should be aware that
removing all traces of religion from the state--ALL--was the stated
goal of the Founding Leaders. (George Washington, who had ac-
companied Martha to church simply out of courtesy, became so
infuriated by the sermon denouncing the disestablishment of the
Church in Virginia--a pet project of its governor, Thomas Jefferson
--that Washington got up and left right in the middle. He waited for
Martha outside, and NEVER set foot in a church again!)

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SEMPER FIDELIS (et Semper Prudens)!

           "Ursus Major"

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From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Wed Jul 24 18:37:53 PDT 1996
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From: ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major)
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mkasaroc@Phoenix.kent.edu (odinn) wrote:

>Blackjack (blackjack@jolly-roger.com) wrote:
>: shemhamforash@usa.pipeline.com(Yankee Rose) wrote:
>
>: > 
>: > 
>: > 
>: > 
>: >Rules of life 
>: > 
>: >  1.  Xtianity is alien to White Aryan values 
>
>: Which is why a lot of Aryans are Shiite Muslims and Hindus.
>
>: Blackjack
>
>
>
>asatru is a real aryan religion, (norse mythology)
>, 
>which was created out of the minds of the germanic common people....
>
>christianity is just an extension of judaism and jewish values...--

You're correct in saying that Christianity is an "Export Model" of
Judaism (with neo-Platonic custom body work); however, you ignore
the ARYAN mystical philosophy which totally triumphed in the Orient:
Buddhism.

The Gautama was an Aryan prince: genetically unpolluted by contact
with the Dravidian residents of India. He lived at the time the Indo-
Aryan culture was at its apex. (He was an exact contemporary of
Confuctius, although neither was aware of the other.) He brought a
refinement to the Hindu Aryan pantheon which elevated it to a
mysto-philosophical creed of universal appeal.

It was this creed, which has an affinity with that developed indepen-
dently by Epicurus in Greece, which totally overwhelmed the Orient:
Buddhism is THE "religion" in China, Japan, and South-East Asia.
Christianity has never made significant progress in these areas. (The
idea of a "revealed" religion being rather absurd to the Orientals.)
But like Western classical music, the unsullied Aryan philosophy of
a princeling was adopted with enthusiasm.

The Buddha preached that by eliminating desire, one could achieve
Nirvana: unity with the Godhead. Epicurus stated one will achieve it
under all circumstances; therefore, he should avoid disappointment.
(The idea that Epicureanism is merely hedonism is totally false. Epi-
curus understood the difference between joy and sensualism, ad-
vancing the former and eschewing the latter, because the sexual-
ist is never satisfied. "It matters not WHAT we eat," Epicurus wrote,
"but rather with WHOM." Bread and cheese with good companions
is far better than a banquet among the superficial and disinterested.

The Aryan has never been truly comfortable with Christianity. It runs
counter to his spirit. The periodic outbursts of anti-Semitism stem 
>from  this incompatibility: the Western Aryan should not waste his
time nor taint his worldview by reading collected Jewish folklore
and mythology, put together and described as "Holy." It's as "holy"
as the *Illiad* or the *Volsungsaga*. It's better known. A mistake!
Who care who "begat" blah-blah-blah. That's alien folklore befit
for aliens. That it was incorporated into the West at the point of
the sword was a dreadful occurance.

The elite of the 18th century redicovered Epicureanism and adopted
it under the name of "Deism." It's important, because The United
States was founded by Deists (neo-Epicureans). The first three pres-
idents and Benjamin Franklin were unabashed Deists. Even though
John Adams and Thomas Jefferson were political rivals, they shared
a common religion, neo-Epicureanism, and became close friends in
their old age, mainly due to this bond.

Those who howl about "Secular Humanism" should be aware that
removing all traces of religion from the state--ALL--was the stated
goal of the Founding Leaders. (George Washington, who had ac-
companied Martha to church simply out of courtesy, became so
infuriated by the sermon denouncing the disestablishment of the
Church in Virginia--a pet project of its governor, Thomas Jefferson
--that Washington got up and left right in the middle. He waited for
Martha outside, and NEVER set foot in a church again!)

==================================================



SEMPER FIDELIS (et Semper Prudens)!

           "Ursus Major"

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From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Wed Jul 24 22:02:50 PDT 1996
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Loki999@ix.netcom.com (Jean Robards) wrote:

>
>
>
>
>   National Socialism promotes two ideas against both human nature (esp
>that of 'aryans") and Satanism.These being,of course,socuialism AND
>nationalism.
>
>Why should I,as a soverign person,bow to some figure-head called "the
>good for the race?" Hell,all I care about is the good of my wallet!!
>(hehehhehe)
>
>
>let's see who the REAL "iconoclasts" are boys and girls......
>
>
>
Well, you certainly don't care much about decent spelling,
punctuation, or grammar. If a fecal fixation with the Federal
Reserve Bunk Notes is your big turn-on, don't forget to
wash your hands before touching anything reasonably
unsoiled. (Yecch!)

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SEMPER FIDELIS (et Semper Prudens)!

           "Ursus Major"

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From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Thu Jul 25 06:38:58 PDT 1996
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Subject: CODOH (Committee for Open Debate On the Holocaust) is alive & well with VITRUAL DOMAIN!
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The Committee for Open Debate On the Holocaust (CODOH) is alive and
well -- with Virtual Domain: http://www.codoh.com

Without any notice nor reason given, CODOH suddenly found its server
denying it access to the Internet. (The "motivation" for this action,
in total violation of contract will prove an interesting revelation
when the action against valleynet reaches the courtroom.)

In the meantime, CODOH, under the aegis of civil libertarian Bradley
R. Smith is ON LINE, with more articles in more languages than ever,
designed to show that REASON REVEALS THE TRUTH; IT'S MERE
PROPAGANDA WHICH FEARS THE FACTS!

With Virtual Domain, CODOH did not worry about a repeat of this vile
attempt to deny it access to Truth Seekers. The server may change,
but from hereon in the address is HTTP://WWW.CODOH.COM
(lower case) -- and it's bigger and better than ever!

Check it out for yourself:

Chemical analysis totally vindicates the Leutner Report!
Abbe Pierre, resistence hero, persecuted for challenging HoloDogma

Articles in English, French, Italian, Spanish, Swedish, German, and
Norweign make CODOH truly the uncensored International Forum
for open debate on what some call "The Hoax of the 20th Century"!

YOUR MIND IS YOUR PRIMARY WEAPON -- USE IT!

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Loki999@ix.netcom.com (Jean Robards) wrote:

>
>
>
>
>   National Socialism promotes two ideas against both human nature (esp
>that of 'aryans") and Satanism.These being,of course,socuialism AND
>nationalism.
>
>Why should I,as a soverign person,bow to some figure-head called "the
>good for the race?" Hell,all I care about is the good of my wallet!!
>(hehehhehe)
>
>
>let's see who the REAL "iconoclasts" are boys and girls......
>
>
>
Well, you certainly don't care much about decent spelling,
punctuation, or grammar. If a fecal fixation with the Federal
Reserve Bunk Notes is your big turn-on, don't forget to
wash your hands before touching anything reasonably
unsoiled. (Yecch!)

========================================



SEMPER FIDELIS (et Semper Prudens)!

           "Ursus Major"

====================================


From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Thu Jul 25 07:22:32 PDT 1996
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From: ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major)
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Subject: Re: Funny to deny the holocaust
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It may be said--mutatis mutandis--of The Holocaust what Voltaire
said about God: "If He did not exist, it would be necessary to
invent Him"--which is precisely what was done as regards the
Canonical Version of the horrid pogrom which took place during
WW2. Even no less a Holocaust supporter and recognized expert
than Yahuda Bauer has affirmed that far more Jews died from natural
causes (exascerbated by the inhuman conditions of their slave-labor
camps) than were the victims of intentional violence.

No Holocaust Myth, no Israel! It boils down to that!!

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mkasaroc@Phoenix.kent.edu (odinn) wrote:

>Blackjack (blackjack@jolly-roger.com) wrote:
>: shemhamforash@usa.pipeline.com(Yankee Rose) wrote:
>
>: > 
>: > 
>: > 
>: > 
>: >Rules of life 
>: > 
>: >  1.  Xtianity is alien to White Aryan values 
>
>: Which is why a lot of Aryans are Shiite Muslims and Hindus.
>
>: Blackjack
>
>
>
>asatru is a real aryan religion, (norse mythology)
>, 
>which was created out of the minds of the germanic common people....
>
>christianity is just an extension of judaism and jewish values...--

You're correct in saying that Christianity is an "Export Model" of
Judaism (with neo-Platonic custom body work); however, you ignore
the ARYAN mystical philosophy which totally triumphed in the Orient:
Buddhism.

The Gautama was an Aryan prince: genetically unpolluted by contact
with the Dravidian residents of India. He lived at the time the Indo-
Aryan culture was at its apex. (He was an exact contemporary of
Confuctius, although neither was aware of the other.) He brought a
refinement to the Hindu Aryan pantheon which elevated it to a
mysto-philosophical creed of universal appeal.

It was this creed, which has an affinity with that developed indepen-
dently by Epicurus in Greece, which totally overwhelmed the Orient:
Buddhism is THE "religion" in China, Japan, and South-East Asia.
Christianity has never made significant progress in these areas. (The
idea of a "revealed" religion being rather absurd to the Orientals.)
But like Western classical music, the unsullied Aryan philosophy of
a princeling was adopted with enthusiasm.

The Buddha preached that by eliminating desire, one could achieve
Nirvana: unity with the Godhead. Epicurus stated one will achieve it
under all circumstances; therefore, he should avoid disappointment.
(The idea that Epicureanism is merely hedonism is totally false. Epi-
curus understood the difference between joy and sensualism, ad-
vancing the former and eschewing the latter, because the sexual-
ist is never satisfied. "It matters not WHAT we eat," Epicurus wrote,
"but rather with WHOM." Bread and cheese with good companions
is far better than a banquet among the superficial and disinterested.

The Aryan has never been truly comfortable with Christianity. It runs
counter to his spirit. The periodic outbursts of anti-Semitism stem 
>from  this incompatibility: the Western Aryan should not waste his
time nor taint his worldview by reading collected Jewish folklore
and mythology, put together and described as "Holy." It's as "holy"
as the *Illiad* or the *Volsungsaga*. It's better known. A mistake!
Who care who "begat" blah-blah-blah. That's alien folklore befit
for aliens. That it was incorporated into the West at the point of
the sword was a dreadful occurance.

The elite of the 18th century redicovered Epicureanism and adopted
it under the name of "Deism." It's important, because The United
States was founded by Deists (neo-Epicureans). The first three pres-
idents and Benjamin Franklin were unabashed Deists. Even though
John Adams and Thomas Jefferson were political rivals, they shared
a common religion, neo-Epicureanism, and became close friends in
their old age, mainly due to this bond.

Those who howl about "Secular Humanism" should be aware that
removing all traces of religion from the state--ALL--was the stated
goal of the Founding Leaders. (George Washington, who had ac-
companied Martha to church simply out of courtesy, became so
infuriated by the sermon denouncing the disestablishment of the
Church in Virginia--a pet project of its governor, Thomas Jefferson
--that Washington got up and left right in the middle. He waited for
Martha outside, and NEVER set foot in a church again!)

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From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Thu Jul 25 07:31:23 PDT 1996
Article: 32739 of alt.skinheads
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Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.satanism,alt.politics.white-power,alt.skinheads
Subject: Re: LETS SEE WHO THE REAL ICONOCLASTS ARE FOLKS!!!!!!
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Loki999@ix.netcom.com (Jean Robards) wrote:

>
>
>
>
>   National Socialism promotes two ideas against both human nature (esp
>that of 'aryans") and Satanism.These being,of course,socuialism AND
>nationalism.
>
>Why should I,as a soverign person,bow to some figure-head called "the
>good for the race?" Hell,all I care about is the good of my wallet!!
>(hehehhehe)
>
>
>let's see who the REAL "iconoclasts" are boys and girls......
>
>
>
Well, you certainly don't care much about decent spelling,
punctuation, or grammar. If a fecal fixation with the Federal
Reserve Bunk Notes is your big turn-on, don't forget to
wash your hands before touching anything reasonably
unsoiled. (Yecch!)

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From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Thu Jul 25 10:14:46 PDT 1996
Article: 26126 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white
Subject: Re: George Lincoln Rockwell Info?
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fresh@panix.com (Andrew Mathis) wrote:

>drebola@aol.com (Dr Ebola) wrote:
>
>>I am currently researching the life and career of George Lincoln Rockwell.
>>Following the abortive attempt to have his remains interred at the
>>National Military Cemetary in Culpepper, lawsuits apparently were pursued
>>to have him receive a military burial. A remembrance ceremony was then
>>held at ANP headquarters in Arlington. VA but accounts do not state
>>whether Rockwell's remains were temporarily interred on-site or not. I
>>have been unable to find any definitive account of his final resting
>>place. I would appreciate any information (please include sources!) you
>>might have.
>
>Rockwell lived and died like a dog.  He was a traitor to his nation
>and his flag by taking on the very swastika our country gave 350,000
>lives to fight against.  He should never have had a miliatary burial,
>as he was an active seditionist, and if he did, I've like to let
>Harold Covington know I plan to have him interred, his bones ground,
>made into bread, and fed to wolves.
>
>Yours truly,
>Andrew Mathis
>
Andy, do you get rabies shots on a regular basis?

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From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Thu Jul 25 10:14:48 PDT 1996
Article: 26128 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white
Subject: Re: Funny to deny the holocaust
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fresh@panix.com (Andrew Mathis) wrote:

>ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major) wrote:
>
>>It may be said--mutatis mutandis--of The Holocaust what Voltaire
>>said about God: "If He did not exist, it would be necessary to
>>invent Him"--which is precisely what was done as regards the
>>Canonical Version of the horrid pogrom which took place during
>>WW2. Even no less a Holocaust supporter and recognized expert
>>than Yahuda Bauer has affirmed that far more Jews died from natural
>>causes (exascerbated by the inhuman conditions of their slave-labor
>>camps) than were the victims of intentional violence.
>
>>No Holocaust Myth, no Israel! It boils down to that!!
>
>So will, like, all you big bad Aryan folks be invading Israel, then?
>Or will it be a nuke job, like in that great novel *The Turner
>Diaries*?
>
>Don't keep us in suspense, oh brave, anonymous warrior!
>

Check the newsgroup a little more thoroughly, Andy.
I happen to be partial toward Israel (it has to do more
with Mozart than with Moses, however).

The fact remains: no Holocaust myth, no Israel. The
enormity of the persecution was bad enough; but the
artful job exploiting it was spectacular. So yap some-
where else (do you wear a muzzle in public): no Israel,
no Israeli Philharmonic. No further _raison d'Ítre_ needed,
as far as I'm concerned.

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From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Thu Jul 25 20:01:55 PDT 1996
Article: 53219 of alt.revisionism
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From: ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major)
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Subject: Re: CODOH (Committee for Open Debate On the Holocaust) is alive & well with VITRUAL DOMAIN!
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joelr@winternet.com (Joel Rosenberg) wrote:

>In article  liar@fault.com (Captain Truth) writes:
>
>>In article , joelr@winternet.com (Joel
>>Rosenberg) wrote:
>
>>> ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major) writes:
>>> 
>>> >The Committee for Open Debate On the Holocaust (CODOH) is alive and
>>> >well -- with Virtual Domain: http://www.codoh.com
>>> 
>>> >Without any notice nor reason given, CODOH suddenly found its server
>>> >denying it access to the Internet. 
>>> 
>>> Well, no.  An ISP can't deny anybody access to the Internet, just as,
>>> say, if the Mom&Pop store at the corner tells you it doesn't want your
>>> trade, that doesn't mean you're denied access to food.  An ISP
>>> can only deny somebody access to its own services.  
>>> 
>>> >(The "motivation" for this action,
>>> >in total violation of contract will prove an interesting revelation
>>> >when the action against valleynet reaches the courtroom.)
>>> 
>>> Yeah, right.  
>>> --
>>
>
>>If this URL is as obnoxious as other holocaust sites, I think that a jury
>>would be less than representative if it voted against a revisionist
>>website's rights.
>
>Doesn't get to the jury.  A jury only gets to decide matters of fact 
>if there's a possibility that those matters of fact involve the law.  An ISP, 
>like any other business,  has the right to deny service to anyone for any 
>reason not specifically prohibited by law.  
>
>If the folks at CODOH don't like that, well, tough -- they're not prohibited 
>from finding an ISP of lesser fastidiousness, and in fact they immediately 
>did.
>
>No harm, no foul, no jury, no big deal.
>
Not true, Joel!

As you probably know (and if you don't, McVay can inform you),
a considerable amount of money, time, and aggrivation was spent
advertising in college newspapers, inviting students to check out
the CODOH site: consider the material presented and form their
own opinions. By terminating service, in direct violation of contract,
the address advertised became inoperable. That constitutes a
valid tort, as damages are provable.

As for CODOH being all those lovely things the Orwellian politically
correct love to chant, one should investigate first, then decide.
Sure, Bradley Smith is a die-hard racist: he married a Hispanic and
produced a family just to throw his detractors off guard.

The purpose of CODOH is NOT to provide rationales for the monstrosity
of the pogrom which occured under the Nazi aegis. The purpose is to
get at the FACTS: the What, How, and Why.

Contrary to the assertion of Deborah Lipstadt, REASON ALONE is quite
sufficient to sustain the Truth of historical events. Not of religions
or ersatz-religions, but of historical occurances.

Smith was too trusting and underestimated the efforts vested interests
will go to, to stiffle any re-evaluation of their dogmatic positions.
He should have opted for Virtual Domain as "insurance" at the onset.
I, for one, hope Smith _vigorously_ pursues an action against valley-
net. It will prove interesting to see what the defense has to say.

As for being iconoclastic or herectical. One should check it out:

	HTTP://WWW.CODOH.COM (lower case) ...

exercise his rationale functions and arrive at his own decisions.
Hence the name: Committee for OPEN Debate On [the] Holocaust.
Check it out first, then decide: a rational admonition.

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joelr@parka.winternet.com (Joel Rosenberg) wrote:

>ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major) writes:
>
>>joelr@winternet.com (Joel Rosenberg) wrote:
>
>>>In article  liar@fault.com (Captain Truth) writes:
>>>
>>>>In article , joelr@winternet.com (Joel
>>>>Rosenberg) wrote:
>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> >The Committee for Open Debate On the Holocaust (CODOH) is alive and
>>>>> >well -- with Virtual Domain: http://www.codoh.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> >Without any notice nor reason given, CODOH suddenly found its server
>>>>> >denying it access to the Internet. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well, no.  An ISP can't deny anybody access to the Internet, just as,
>>>>> say, if the Mom&Pop store at the corner tells you it doesn't want your
>>>>> trade, that doesn't mean you're denied access to food.  An ISP
>>>>> can only deny somebody access to its own services.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> >(The "motivation" for this action,
>>>>> >in total violation of contract will prove an interesting revelation
>>>>> >when the action against valleynet reaches the courtroom.)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yeah, right.  
>>>>> --
>>>>
>>>
>>>>If this URL is as obnoxious as other holocaust sites, I think that a jury
>>>>would be less than representative if it voted against a revisionist
>>>>website's rights.
>>>
>>>Doesn't get to the jury.  A jury only gets to decide matters of fact 
>>>if there's a possibility that those matters of fact involve the law.  An ISP, 
>>>like any other business,  has the right to deny service to anyone for any 
>>>reason not specifically prohibited by law.  
>>>
>>>If the folks at CODOH don't like that, well, tough -- they're not prohibited 
>>>from finding an ISP of lesser fastidiousness, and in fact they immediately 
>>>did.
>>>
>>>No harm, no foul, no jury, no big deal.
>>>
>>Not true, Joel!
>
>>As you probably know (and if you don't, McVay can inform you),
>>a considerable amount of money, time, and aggrivation was spent
>>advertising in college newspapers, inviting students to check out
>>the CODOH site: consider the material presented and form their
>>own opinions. By terminating service, in direct violation of contract,
>
>The contract said that the ISP couldn't terminate service?  Well, if
>the folks at the ISP were so foolish as to promise, in writing, that
>they wouldn't ever terminate service for reasons unsatisfactory to
>CODOH, I guess they deserve what they get.
>
>As to CODOH spending a considerable amount of money advertising, I
>don't doubt it for a moment. 
>
>>the address advertised became inoperable. That constitutes a
>>valid tort, as damages are provable.
>
>Rotsa ruck.  In practice, CODOH probably isn't going to waste its
>money on the suit, and it won't get past a motion for dismissal.

Well, that's up to Smith et al. to determine. Personally, I'll stick
with Thomas Jefferson's dictum that we can tolerate any error
of opinion, as long as reason is left free to combat it. Not the
Lipstadt dictum which greets those who come aknocking at
Nizkor's door. (CODOH cross-links to Nizkor: one can go directly
>from  CODOH to McVaydom. It also cross-links to Zuendel. Examine
all positions: let reason be your guide.)

I'd say that if CODOH has a case, they should pursue it. It's highly
questionable whether an ISP can terminate service without due notice,
sort of like your coming back to your apartment and finding the land-
lord has placed a padlock on the door--with no notice to vacate given
nor reason cited. Common sense would indicate that a service provider
taken on certain implied obligations (unless, of course, it's spelled
out in writing that service may be terminated at any time for any
reason without any notice given) contained in the legal expression
"implied covenant of fair dealing." Is a gas station, for example, 
engaged in selling to the public entitled to refuse your business be-
cause it doesn't like your politics, or the _Mogen David_ on your
keyring, or the "Fish" symbol on your bumper? I don't think so. There
would have to be some valid reason to deny you patronage. That
the owner is Armenian and you've got a Turkish sticker on your car
would hardly qualify. Anyway, it's a matter for the courts, if CODOH
opts to pursue it. You seem very sure of yourself, which of course,
you are entitled to be. I'm not convinced this self-assurance is
warranted, however.

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From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Thu Jul 25 20:19:57 PDT 1996
Article: 26150 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white
Subject: Re: Christianity in Great Danger
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 wrote:

>
>We believe there is an organized movement by the same groups that are supressing free expression of thoughts to
>label the Christian faith as dangerous to Jews and ultimately revise its history or make it socially
>unacceptable to practice in its present form.  We suggest you visit the Letters toi Our Editors page
>to see exactly how this threat is taking form. (Visit while you can because our account with Iwaynet
>has been closed and we have been denied access to our files on this server. I think that this fact
>alone will demonstrate the viciousness with which the antiChristian forces are attacking, once you
>read the letters and see how harmless they are to anyone or anything but those who oppose
>our beliefs.)
>
>Please take a few moments to check this out.
>
>Michael Nardone
>Editor-in-Chief
>Alison-Valiance Publishing Company
>Columbus, Ohio 43221-0782

Set yourself up as a "virtual domain." That way, no matter what a
particular server does, you'll still be accessible. As Thomas
Jefferson said, "We can tolerate any error of opinion, as long as
Reason is left free to combat it."

Deborah Lipstadt did say that; Jefferson did.

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From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Thu Jul 25 20:19:58 PDT 1996
Article: 26152 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white
Subject: Re: George Lincoln Rockwell Info?
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fresh@panix.com (Andrew Mathis) wrote:

>ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major) wrote:
>
>>fresh@panix.com (Andrew Mathis) wrote:
>
>>>drebola@aol.com (Dr Ebola) wrote:
>>>
>>>>I am currently researching the life and career of George Lincoln Rockwell.
>>>>Following the abortive attempt to have his remains interred at the
>>>>National Military Cemetary in Culpepper, lawsuits apparently were pursued
>>>>to have him receive a military burial. A remembrance ceremony was then
>>>>held at ANP headquarters in Arlington. VA but accounts do not state
>>>>whether Rockwell's remains were temporarily interred on-site or not. I
>>>>have been unable to find any definitive account of his final resting
>>>>place. I would appreciate any information (please include sources!) you
>>>>might have.
>>>
>>>Rockwell lived and died like a dog.  He was a traitor to his nation
>>>and his flag by taking on the very swastika our country gave 350,000
>>>lives to fight against.  He should never have had a miliatary burial,
>>>as he was an active seditionist, and if he did, I've like to let
>>>Harold Covington know I plan to have him interred, his bones ground,
>>>made into bread, and fed to wolves.
>>>
>>>Yours truly,
>>>Andrew Mathis
>>>
>>Andy, do you get rabies shots on a regular basis?
>
>No, I don't need too, because I stay away from rabid animals, like
>raccoons, squirrels, and of course, your mother.
>


My mother's dead, Andy. You really should get rabies shots on a 
regular basis; and distemper shot's too. You're one sick puppy!

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From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Thu Jul 25 20:19:59 PDT 1996
Article: 26154 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major)
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mccutcgn@njmsa.UMDNJ.EDU (Gerald McCutcheon) wrote:

>ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major) writes:
>
>>than Yahuda Bauer has affirmed that far more Jews died from natural
>>causes (exascerbated by the inhuman conditions of their slave-labor
>>camps) than were the victims of intentional violence.
>
>So when the Nazis placed the Jewish people in the concentration camps, do 
>you think they did so "intentionally", or was it by accident?  

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Oh, it was intentional, just like Roosevelt II putting American
citizens in concentration camps, because they were of Japanese
ancestry. The Nazi pogrom was a horrible, vicious, unpardonable
act (even if a host of others: Frenchmen, Ukrainians, Poles, etc.
were even more anti-Semitic than the Hitler regime). It was an
era of monstrous actions: the senseless distruction of Dresden,
"the Florence of the Elbe," the atomic-bombing of Hiroshima and
Nagasaki (the latter act killing almost all the Christians in Japan,
as Nagasaki was the only city with a significant Christian
population). There's no debate about the injustice done the Jews.
The _sine qua non_ is whether EXTERMINATION was the intent.
There is substancial evidence that such was not the case. One
should examine all aspects, and reach his own conclusions.

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SEMPER FIDELIS (et Semper Prudens)!

           "Ursus Major"

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From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Sat Jul 27 11:56:47 PDT 1996
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liar@fault.com (Captain Truth) wrote:

THE FOLLOWING HAS GOT TO BE IN THE RUNNING FOR THE IDI AMIN PRIZE!

>Your Freedom Site is an abomination, Marc. We don't need nazism. Nazism
>killed 50 million Europeans. Hitler did far worse to Europeans than the
>Africans have done. If Nazism had not formed, World War Two would not have
>been foisted on Europeans who deserved more. They had fought World War One
>to end all wars, but Hitler personally saw to it that the homelands of all
>Europeans were objects of tyranny and devastation by the Nazis. There is
>nothing there in history but total savagery and immorality by the Germans,
>Italians, and Japanese.

ALL THOSE FILTHY NIPS RUNNING AROUND EUROPE, DEVASTATING HOME
LANDS AND FORCING SUSHI-BARS ON HAPLESS VICTIMS! OBVIOUSLY "CAPTAIN
TRUTH" HAS HIS CAPE OVER HIS HEAD. NEVER HEARD FOR VERSAILLES AND
THE "DIKAT": A "PEACE TREATY" THE LIKES OF WHICH THE WORLD HAD NOT
SEEN SINCE THE ROMANS ACCORDED A RATHER MILDER ONE TO THE
CARTHEGENIANS. LORD KEYNES, THE BRITISH ECONOMIST, SAT DOWN AT DID
SOME MATHEMATICAL ANALYSIS OF WHAT ENSUED FROM THE "ARCHANGEL"
WOODROW WILSON'S "PEACE WITHOUT VICTORY" RHETORIC: NOT ONLY COULD
A THOROUGHLY EXAUSTED GERMANY NOT PAY REPARATIONS WITH NO UPPER LIMIT,
IT NEVER COULD PAY THEM. THE EFFECT OF COMPOUND INTEREST WOULD MEAN
THAT GERMANY'S REPARATIONS WOULD GO ON FOREVER! (KEYNES WENT BACK AND
WROTE "THE ECONOMICS OF THE PEACE.") LET'S NOT FORGET THAT UNTIL THE
GERMANS SIGNED THIS ENSLAVEMENT TREATY, THE BLOCKADE WAS TIGHTLY MAIN-
TAINED. MORE THAN 400,000 DIED FROM STARVATION *AFTER* THE ARMISTICE. 
THE GERMANS SCUTTLED THEIR NAVY, RATHER THAN TURN IT OVER TO THE 
BRITISH. AS A RESULT, THE "PEACE TREATY" MANDATED THE GERMANS BUILD AN
ENTIRE NEW FLEET AND GIVE IT TO THE BRITISH ...

 How can you stand yourself? Other white Americans
>and Canadians with "real problems" of crime committed by immigrants and
>negroes are destroyed by your ignorant and paleolithic presence which
>allows our enemies to say that you are representative of us, when I don't
>have one damned thing in common with the menace and anti-European horror
>of Nazism which you hold up as a European chalice, but which contained
>poison for Europeans then and contains it now. Get out of our way, nazis
>and skinheads. You are wrecking everything we might do to help ourselves
>just by being there. If you aren't a disinformation operative of the FBI
>and NAACP, I'll be surprised.

GET OUT OF YOUR WAY? YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO THE HUMAN RACE
IN TOTO, NOT MERELY THE EURO-CENTRIC PORTION. YOUR KNOWLEDGE
OF HISTORY IS WORSE THAN YOUR PROSE--IF SUCH BE POSSIBLE--AND
ANYONE WHO DOES ANYTHING TO EXPOSE YOUR COMPLETELY IDIOTIC
PRESENTATIONS IS DOING A SERVICE TO THE HUMAN ESTATE.

YOU ARE, VERILY, A COMPLETE DORK!

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SEMPER FIDELIS (et Semper Prudens)!

           "Ursus Major"

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From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Sat Jul 27 12:38:38 PDT 1996
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SEMPER FIDELIS (et Semper Prudens)!

           "Ursus Major"

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From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Sat Jul 27 12:38:39 PDT 1996
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ygg@netcom.com (Yggdrasil) wrote:

>Marvelous Post! A "must read."
>
>Yggdrasil-

Marvelous indeed. Perhaps it will induce some to remove their ostrich
heads from the sands of Liberalism--and take a keen interest not only
in Oswald Spengler, but in his martyred American disciple, Yockey
(Ulich Varange). But don't count on it.

It's been [what?] over 20 years since Jean Raspail's _Camp of the
Saints_ appeared, caused a momentary discomfort, and then was
discarded in the concerted effort to convince South Africa that com-
mitting suicide was really in its best interest.

The author, obviously British, is totally oblivious to conditions in
the Southwestern U.S. in general and Southern California in parti-
cular: the once Golden State becoming more and more the ideal
setting for a remake of _Soilent Green_.

Those whom the gods will destroy, they first imbue with Social
Consciousness!

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SEMPER FIDELIS (et Semper Prudens)!

           "Ursus Major"

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From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Sat Jul 27 12:38:40 PDT 1996
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Ah, but are they KOSHER chicken?

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100527.2074@compuserve.com wrote:

>WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH US?
>
>Shortly before the Millennium we, the people of this world have still
>not learned how to live in peace.  Although we have suffered at the
>hands of dictators, demagogues, terrorists and others who would rob us
>of our freedoms, we have not learned that only through understanding
>and, however absurd it may sound, LOVE of one another can we be truly
>happy.
>
>Continually, small groups of radicals form who believe that they and
>only they can lead us forward.  That they and only they have the right
>to decide for us.  And that they have the right to use force to obtain
>their goals.  The use of debate and argumentation is unheard of, as we
>are not enlightened.  We can not understand them.
>
>I for one am glad that I do not understand them.  Groups who would
>kill and injure innocent men women and children in order to convince
>me that they have the answer to the worlds problems are using the
>wrong arguments.
>
>The recent attacks against the people, committed by cowardly groups
>who seem unable to cope with life in a normal way, are just reminders
>of the years of terrorist blackmail that have forced us to live in a
>state of continual fear.  We are unable to move about in the world
>without fear.  Who are these people who have the gall to rob us of our
>basic freedoms?
>
>It is time for the people of the world to unite against these cowards.
>Terrorists can only attain their goals when we allow them to blackmail
>us.  Do not allow anyone you know to harbor hateful thoughts against
>others.   If  you do not agree with the goals and ways of your
>government, then target your anger against the government.  But if
>your anger is based on racism, sexism, and other discriminatory
>beliefs, channel your anger inward and look for the roots of this
>anger.  Ask yourself, how has this person or group of people harmed
>me?  Did my actions have anything to contribute to the situation?  
>
>We must act.  The lives of countless men women and children are
>senselessly lost everyday.  This situation must not be allowed to
>continue.
>
>
>
>--
>CutterJohn
>
What is wrong with us? Ask the liberals, who rushed forward to defend 
the $2 billion worth of looting and arson in Los Angeles, because a
jury came up with a politically incorrect verdict, as "justified."

That _stirps_ which gave the world the heliocentric organization of 
the cosmos, the mathematical foundations of natural phenomena,
the glories of Mozart and Michelangelo, the ability to transform
matter into pure energy (as merely part of its accomplishments) is
fed up with the continual carping of the genetically deptrived and
their mealy-mouthed apologists.

The developer of the transistor: the device which makes this and
every other technological marvel possible remains without honor in
his own country. Where's even a commerative stamp to honor the
late Dr. Shockley? Harriet Tubman? Well, THAT's a different story,
and while we're at it, why don't we rename August "Martin Luther
King, Jr. Month"? Who care about Roman emperors anyway?

Watch out! The "honkies" are fed up with the arrogance and
presentions of lesser breeds-->Untermenschen<, if you like. Even
if you don't like. White solidarity is the prerequisite to restoring
the balance which existed before The Great Suicide Pact of 1914.

As it devolved upon them to bring order to the cosmos, so it will
be their responsibility to restore order _in terra_ ... but first they
have to get their own act together, cutting out the cancer in their
own body politic. Eliminating terrorism is easy: eliminate the terror-
ists and you eliminate terrorism. All that's lacking is the moral
courage to do what needs to be done. Not the means, the moral
courage to utilize them.

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           "Ursus Major"

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ahassana@mustang.uwo.ca (Asser Hassanain (Muslim like a nut-shell))
wrote:

>ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major) wrote:
>
>>Deir Yassin, Israel.
>
>Wow, and to consider that the name "Deir Yassin" is purely an Arabic
>name in Israel!  (I don't think I will forget the Deir Yassin
>massacre!).
>
>And now:  The Palestinian Haters Anonymous is now conducting a
>research to see if the anti-Palestinianism exhibited by Israeli Army
>Personnel and some extremist Jewish settlers, is also the results of
>genetic, environmental disorders.
>
>
>Subjects should have no more than I.Q. of 70 (which is, of course very
>logical, since it almost impossible to find any subjects of higher
>I.Q.).
>
>The address will be displayed later.  Thank you a lot!
>
>
>-----------------------
>Asser Hassanain
>
>MUSLIM,
>
>And won't change from that!
>
No, and you won't find a museum in Washington, DC devoted to it
and other atrocities of the Irgun and the Stern Gang either. It's the
consummate hypocrisy of the Zionists which riles me: lie, cheat,
steal, and massacre--and then the Eternal Whine: "Oy, have we
suffered! Nobody has suffered like we have suffered!" That's the
disgusting and vile part about it.

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100527.2074@compuserve.com wrote:

>WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH US?
>
>Shortly before the Millennium we, the people of this world have still
>not learned how to live in peace.  Although we have suffered at the
>hands of dictators, demagogues, terrorists and others who would rob us
>of our freedoms, we have not learned that only through understanding
>and, however absurd it may sound, LOVE of one another can we be truly
>happy.
>
>Continually, small groups of radicals form who believe that they and
>only they can lead us forward.  That they and only they have the right
>to decide for us.  And that they have the right to use force to obtain
>their goals.  The use of debate and argumentation is unheard of, as we
>are not enlightened.  We can not understand them.
>
>I for one am glad that I do not understand them.  Groups who would
>kill and injure innocent men women and children in order to convince
>me that they have the answer to the worlds problems are using the
>wrong arguments.
>
>The recent attacks against the people, committed by cowardly groups
>who seem unable to cope with life in a normal way, are just reminders
>of the years of terrorist blackmail that have forced us to live in a
>state of continual fear.  We are unable to move about in the world
>without fear.  Who are these people who have the gall to rob us of our
>basic freedoms?
>
>It is time for the people of the world to unite against these cowards.
>Terrorists can only attain their goals when we allow them to blackmail
>us.  Do not allow anyone you know to harbor hateful thoughts against
>others.   If  you do not agree with the goals and ways of your
>government, then target your anger against the government.  But if
>your anger is based on racism, sexism, and other discriminatory
>beliefs, channel your anger inward and look for the roots of this
>anger.  Ask yourself, how has this person or group of people harmed
>me?  Did my actions have anything to contribute to the situation?  
>
>We must act.  The lives of countless men women and children are
>senselessly lost everyday.  This situation must not be allowed to
>continue.
>
>
>
>--
>CutterJohn
>
What is wrong with us? Ask the liberals, who rushed forward to defend 
the $2 billion worth of looting and arson in Los Angeles, because a
jury came up with a politically incorrect verdict, as "justified."

That _stirps_ which gave the world the heliocentric organization of 
the cosmos, the mathematical foundations of natural phenomena,
the glories of Mozart and Michelangelo, the ability to transform
matter into pure energy (as merely part of its accomplishments) is
fed up with the continual carping of the genetically deptrived and
their mealy-mouthed apologists.

The developer of the transistor: the device which makes this and
every other technological marvel possible remains without honor in
his own country. Where's even a commerative stamp to honor the
late Dr. Shockley? Harriet Tubman? Well, THAT's a different story,
and while we're at it, why don't we rename August "Martin Luther
King, Jr. Month"? Who care about Roman emperors anyway?

Watch out! The "honkies" are fed up with the arrogance and
presentions of lesser breeds-->Untermenschen<, if you like. Even
if you don't like. White solidarity is the prerequisite to restoring
the balance which existed before The Great Suicide Pact of 1914.

As it devolved upon them to bring order to the cosmos, so it will
be their responsibility to restore order _in terra_ ... but first they
have to get their own act together, cutting out the cancer in their
own body politic. Eliminating terrorism is easy: eliminate the terror-
ists and you eliminate terrorism. All that's lacking is the moral
courage to do what needs to be done. Not the means, the moral
courage to utilize them.

====================================================



SEMPER FIDELIS (et Semper Prudens)!

           "Ursus Major"

====================================


From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Sat Jul 27 12:43:10 PDT 1996
Article: 70812 of alt.conspiracy
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====================================


From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Sun Jul 28 07:10:17 PDT 1996
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Jael18@aol.com wrote:

>zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org (E. Zundel Repost) wrote:
>
>>The Zundelgrams are posted to alt.fan.ernst-zundel and alt.revisionism
>>daily, unedited (after BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM....). The opinions expressed do
>>not necessarily represent the views of the poster, who is not the author. 
>>See X-Headers for relevant URLs. A good place to start is
>>http://www.nizkor.org/features/ or, if you're in Europe,
>>ftp://nizkor.iam.uni-bonn.de/pub/nizkor/
>
>>Join the fan club:
>
>> http://techweb.cmp.com:80/net/magazine/current/newscam/newscam1.htm
>
>>And now, to demonstrate the truth of Ken's words, the daily Zundelgram: 
>
>>------------ BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------
>
>>July 26, 1996
>
>>Good Morning from the Zundelsite:
>
>>A friend called and said she had read somewhere that the Simon Wiesenthal
>>Center has now identified 250 website to be characterized and targeted as
>>"hate pages." 
>
>But  you are right about SWC .. they spread their net too wide.  There
>are less than 50 sites that are devoted all or in part to  Holocaust
>Denial ... almost all of these run by people who, like Ingrid, think
>that uncle Adolph was a paragon rather than the totalitarian,
>aggressive ultra-nationalist militarist, anti-Semite that he was.
>(BTW Ingrid -- You are right to abhor Stalin.  Trouble is, he and
>Hitler had more in common than you want to admit.  They were
>totalitarian, ultranationalist, anti-Semitic, anti-Christian murders)
>
>Your pathetic mailing list of 320 people (either lurkers or the choir
>of haters -- Arthur Butz, Greg Raven, Bradley Smith, Jared Taylor, Don
>Black, Louis Beam,) doesn't show a healthy "movement" -- just a
>fevered imagination.

OH YEAH ... BRADLEY SMITH'S A REAL RACIST! HE MARRIED A FULL-
BLOODED INDIO-CHICANA AND HAD A FAMILY, JUST TO DEFLECT
CRITICISM. YEP, SMITH: THAT HITERITE MONGROLIZER! UNLIKE CERTAIN
ETHNICS GROUPS, THE _GOYIM_ DON'T SIT _SHIVA_ AND PRONOUNCE A
PERSON "DEAD," IF HE OR SHE MARRIES SOMEONE OF A DIFFERENCE RACE
OR RELIGION. 	QUAINT CUSTOM THAT, BUT ONE SHOULD NEVER LABEL IT
"RACIST"! THAT SMACKS TOO MUCH OF ... THE TRUTH!!   U.M.
 

>>I have watched Ken McVay for quite some time.  I think he is an honest
>>chap, compared to one or two I wouldn't classify that way.  I believe that
>>Ken McVay is one of those who, filled with amazing zeal right now to do us
>>in, belongs in our camp.  (I bet  he'll shudder at the thought, and so will
>>some of my compatriots . . . . )
>
>>Here's what I say - you mark my word:  People like McVay cannot be duped
>>forever.  We've all been there.  I well remember my time - when I believed
>>that there was penance to be done.  I woke up, and I believe McVay is
>>waking up.  I think that his letter to Litman is telling.
>
>Here is another example of Ingrid not being able to interpret facts in
>any but the most distorted and self-serving way.   McVay has always
>been a champion of free speech who believes that creeps like Ingrid
>need to be exposed as liars, hypocrites and frauds.  No purpose in
>making them matyrs ... gets their opponents off message -- which is
>the Holocaust Revisionist movement is run by people who love
>totalitarian dictatorships, are white supremacists, are anti-Semtiic,
>are fundamentally anti-Christian, and who robe themselves in the
>trappings of civil liberties while they plot to end free speech, free
>press, due process and the like.
>
>
>Jael
>
>----- 
>
>>Thought for the Day:
>
>>"When the flag is unfurled, all reason is in the trumpet."
>
>>(Ulraininan Proverb)
>
>
>
>
>
>>------------ END ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------
>
>



From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Tue Jul 30 08:13:29 PDT 1996
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From: ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major)
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mojo@your.net (The Truth) wrote:

>I've noticed just about everytime you turn the TV on and hear about a
>child bering abuducted, raped and murdered, it's USUALLY a white guy.
>WHY???
>
Well bro' I not sure what a "peodphile" be. Guess it am one what likes
peods a lot. But as I does recall, it were a soul-bro' who done love
all doze young black-uns in Atlanta to DEATH. So it seem like da
crazies is crazy affer dere own kind. Suppon like da Greek bitch,
Medea, what kill her own chillin.
	But ain't alway de psycho, who be a waistin' his de chillin.
Times is, it be real love too, but get mix up wiff dat ol' Debbel
lust. Whitey ain't gots no monopoly on incess, Lord know! But as
de say, "Da family what lay together, stay together!"

Ya'll take care & writes quick, if youse get litterate!

Yo' Ursine Buddy, U.M.





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