From pendragn@cyberg8t.com Sat May 4 12:18:42 PDT 1996 Article: 19055 of alt.politics.nationalism.white Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!news.cyberg8t.com!usenet From: Arthur LeBouthillierNewsgroups: ab.politics,alt.bio.minority,alt.college.us,alt.education.email-project,alt.education.research,alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.politics.white-power Subject: Re: laffirmative action good or bad? need info Date: 4 May 1996 13:24:18 GMT Organization: Cyberg8t Internet Services (800) 399-4NET Lines: 50 Message-ID: <4mflq3$kgl@gate.cyberg8t.com> References: <4h0jnf$dk7@maureen.teleport.com> <3141CBD2.497F@scott.net> <31504ccd.10867025@news.staffnet.com> <3150BB70.3347@scott.net> <316EF808.3E09@scott.net> <4ktqd7$218@falcon.sat.net> <3175477D.3289@scott.net> <4lj5qq$73v@news.campus.mci.net> <31800B98.404A@scott.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: host17.cyberg8t.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit) Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.bio.minority:95 alt.college.us:3010 alt.education.email-project:749 alt.education.research:3342 alt.politics.nationalism.white:19055 alt.politics.white-power:27615 Constantine-simms says: > The reality which opponents of AA must recognise is that the levels of > discrimination against Blacks has not changed to the poin that it > warrants the withdrawal of AA. In fact, it is indicative of how far > Ameirca has to go in recognising that it is not the land of the > individual, it is the land of the collective based on race. And > the collective that is in power are the ones who are bennefitting. The collective in power is people like you: multi-racial imperialists. You're the one who wants to maintain an "Empire of Love" (TM). My viewpoint is that the non-Whites are not members of my nation and therefore it is illegitimate to force our acceptance of them. The only way that people like you can create your empire is by violating the rights of people like me. > AA must be seen for what it is, a half hearted gesture, it is > symbolic of the continued racism. When America, creates an > environment frre of racism then I will say get rid of AA, but > for the time being it must stay, if you take it away, rest assured > America will burn. And America knows it. Burn baby burn. What are you saying? Are you saying that because we don't give the non's all of the special privileges that they want that they will riot? So what. The truth is that people like you are supporting an empire which is against people's interests merely to support the empire. We're different peoples, we should have different governments. Are we supposed to care about the veiled threat of terror by the Non-s? I'm going to do what I know is right whether you, they or the government likes it. If the Non-s want to riot, I'm not going to change my opinions (in fact they'll be strengthened). > So those that want to get rid of it had better find an alternative > that is acceptable to thos e being discriminated against. Failure > to do so will have dire consequences all round. Dire consequences? Like finally real representative governments might arise (i.e. separate governments for the different racial nations)? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Arthur Lebouthillier pendragn@cyberg8t.com http://www.tripod.com/~pendragn We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White children. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pendragn@cyberg8t.com Sat May 4 12:22:16 PDT 1996 Article: 27615 of alt.politics.white-power Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!news.cyberg8t.com!usenet From: Arthur LeBouthillier Newsgroups: ab.politics,alt.bio.minority,alt.college.us,alt.education.email-project,alt.education.research,alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.politics.white-power Subject: Re: laffirmative action good or bad? need info Date: 4 May 1996 13:24:18 GMT Organization: Cyberg8t Internet Services (800) 399-4NET Lines: 50 Message-ID: <4mflq3$kgl@gate.cyberg8t.com> References: <4h0jnf$dk7@maureen.teleport.com> <3141CBD2.497F@scott.net> <31504ccd.10867025@news.staffnet.com> <3150BB70.3347@scott.net> <316EF808.3E09@scott.net> <4ktqd7$218@falcon.sat.net> <3175477D.3289@scott.net> <4lj5qq$73v@news.campus.mci.net> <31800B98.404A@scott.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: host17.cyberg8t.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit) Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.bio.minority:95 alt.college.us:3010 alt.education.email-project:749 alt.education.research:3342 alt.politics.nationalism.white:19055 alt.politics.white-power:27615 Constantine-simms says: > The reality which opponents of AA must recognise is that the levels of > discrimination against Blacks has not changed to the poin that it > warrants the withdrawal of AA. In fact, it is indicative of how far > Ameirca has to go in recognising that it is not the land of the > individual, it is the land of the collective based on race. And > the collective that is in power are the ones who are bennefitting. The collective in power is people like you: multi-racial imperialists. You're the one who wants to maintain an "Empire of Love" (TM). My viewpoint is that the non-Whites are not members of my nation and therefore it is illegitimate to force our acceptance of them. The only way that people like you can create your empire is by violating the rights of people like me. > AA must be seen for what it is, a half hearted gesture, it is > symbolic of the continued racism. When America, creates an > environment frre of racism then I will say get rid of AA, but > for the time being it must stay, if you take it away, rest assured > America will burn. And America knows it. Burn baby burn. What are you saying? Are you saying that because we don't give the non's all of the special privileges that they want that they will riot? So what. The truth is that people like you are supporting an empire which is against people's interests merely to support the empire. We're different peoples, we should have different governments. Are we supposed to care about the veiled threat of terror by the Non-s? I'm going to do what I know is right whether you, they or the government likes it. If the Non-s want to riot, I'm not going to change my opinions (in fact they'll be strengthened). > So those that want to get rid of it had better find an alternative > that is acceptable to thos e being discriminated against. Failure > to do so will have dire consequences all round. Dire consequences? Like finally real representative governments might arise (i.e. separate governments for the different racial nations)? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Arthur Lebouthillier pendragn@cyberg8t.com http://www.tripod.com/~pendragn We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White children. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pendragn@cyberg8t.com Fri May 10 07:22:09 PDT 1996 Article: 19283 of alt.politics.nationalism.white Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.jumppoint.com!news3.ottawa.istar.net!istar.net!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news.cyberg8t.com!usenet From: Arthur LeBouthillier Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.politics.nationalism.black Subject: Re: War of Races? How can we prevent this? Date: 3 May 1996 02:47:16 GMT Organization: Cyberg8t Internet Services (800) 399-4NET Lines: 91 Message-ID: <4mbs3k$amd@gate.cyberg8t.com> References: <4la0uq$lm8@solaris.cc.vt.edu> <4ljg9h$6s8@mapperley.innotts.co.uk> <4m5f90$jqa@newz.oit.unc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: host40.cyberg8t.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit) James Baker, says: > The reason racism is so present in the world comes from the legacy > of colonialism. Bull. The reason racism is so present in the world because it represents more fundamental realities of human nature: group identity based on blood relationships. > When the Other must be subjugated to conform to the colonizer's > desires, the Other must be constructed as something inferior. Sort of like you imperialists do to Whites? Any White that doesn't want your multi-racial empire is portrayed as "ignorant" (whatever that means). > Historically, as we all know, this has been accomplished via > slavery and, with more subtlety, through stereotyping. Shut up. Stereotyping represents a fundamental facet of human cognition. It is the merely generalization. Tell you what, don't classify or generalize about anybody for a WHOLE day. Tell me if it's possible not to stereotype. > Stereotyping is still with us and is a very effective racist tool > (the lying Asiatic, the well-endowed genitalia of the Black, the > money grubbing Jew; the list goes on). Or the "imperialistic" White. Or the "oppressed" Blacks. > Once people are stereotyped, racism becomes somewhat ingrained. > But, we have never been able to transcend racism for several reasons: I think that you're stereotyping racists. Stop it. > One major reason is that the white hegemony wants to keep control of > power and only makes minor attempts at integration; That's a lie. I will make *NO* efforts toward integration; I am opposed to that which is harmful to my people. > the world will never fully integrate the races because of hegemonic > control. The kind that you're supporting by promoting multi-racial empires. > Keeping stereotyping intact works to the hegemony's benefit in that > ethnic people (i.e., ethnic in relation to white) use this tool > themselves against each other (in the US, there is a rift between > Latinos and Blacks, for example). What about White ethnicity? Do we too have the same rights as the non-Whites? > When resources are limited (when most of the resources are kept > by whites), the left-overs are tossed to the multitudes of Other > and, as would be expected, they will fight over them for the sake > of survival. Oh, sure! We can trust that people like you will *ALWAYS* fairly and objectively distribute resources! In a pig's eye. The White race must control its own destiny. > This is what the white hegemony has designed; race wars among the > Other. Right! > We have never integrated because there never has been a real desire > to by those in power. Bull. You will never be integrated because people like me don't want our nation or race integrated with foreign peoples. The imperialists (who are in power now) such as yourself impose that integration whether we want it or not. > If stereotyping could cease and resoures be evenly distributed, > then perhaps we could make a real attempt to live as an integrated > society. Alright. Stop stereotyping racists and give me all of your money. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Arthur LeBouthillier pendragn@cyberg8t.com http://www.tripod.com/~pendragn/ We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White children. ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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