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From lambert@morgan.net Sun Jan 18 09:16:28 EST 1998
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From: lambert@morgan.net
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On 1/11/98 12:19AM, in message <34b96428.19935142@news.slip.net>, Speedbyrd:> 
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> You need to spend less time on worthless garbage like David Duke and spend
> the time take a class on posting to the Net.  Your multiple, duplicated
> messages take up space and people's time, for no good reason.
> 
>   The Speedbyrd :>


 I wouldn't call David Duke "worthless garbage" for that was
not a rational statement. Gee, I believe the whole computer
industry needs to develop problem-free software too!



From lambert@morgan.net Sun Jan 18 09:16:28 EST 1998
Article: 62747 of alt.discrimination
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>From  the Montreal Gazette, January 14, 1998, on page B4.

< begin article 1 >

Swiss placed Jews in slave camps: report

_Associated Press_

LOS ANGELES - Thousands of Jewish refugees fled to Switzerland to escape the
horrors of Nazism, only to be confined in slave labour-like camps where they
faced the threat of being turned over to the Nazis if they complained, said a
report released yesterday.

"There is a very deep-seated anti-Semitism. We see it in a very open, sadistic
way," said the report's author, Alan Schom.

[Ah, yes. The ole' "anti-Semitism (tm)" canard. It is amazing that no matter
what happens, no matter how much is done to help, it is seemingly never
enough. Somehow or other, the ancient curse of "anti-Semitism (tm)" is brought
into play. But who wrote this "report"?]

The study, conducted by the Simon Wiesenthal Centre, 

[Ah! The Simon Wiesenthal Centre (SWC), eh? Looks like it's time to yet
another re-post of the most famous quote concerning the human scum at that
organization:

"The ADL, like the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Los Angeles, has built its
financial appeal to Jews on its ability to portray the Jewish people as
surrounded by enemies who are on the verge of launching threatening
anti-Semitic campaigns. It has a professional stake in exaggerating the
dangers, and sometimes allows existing racial or political prejudices in the
Jewish world to influence how it will portray the potential dangers." -
Michael Lerner, ex-ADL president, in _Jews and Blacks: Let the Healing Begin_

As we can see, the SWC's interest in "anti-Semitism (tm)" is purely one of
money. What a sham such groups are!]

based in Los Angeles, was released following more than a year of research,
including examination of archival records recently declassified by the British
Foreign Office. Schom said 62 Swiss labour camps he has documented held
between 17,000 and 22,000 Jewish men, women and children. Most were from
professional and educated families with the means and connections to obtain
visas but little experience of physical labour.

"On the whole, people were absolute prisoners. If they tried to leave their
jobs, they could be handed back to... the Gestapo," Schom said.

[Is there any evidence of this? Schom doesn't say, of course. But it is not
really surprising that he brings up the bogeyman since it is an excellent ploy
for sympathy.]

"The idea was to make life as difficult for them as possible."

>From  1933 to 1945, more than 200,000 people were granted asylum in
Switzerland, including an estimated 28,000 Jews, the report said.

[That would be 14%.]

Jewish men between the ages of 20 and 60 "worked from dawn to dusk," often
surrounded by barbed wire and armed guards. Women were sent to serve as maids
in households and often separated from their children, who were placed in
separate camps. Schom said the refugees received little if any compensation
for their work.

[Not for anything, but most men that age work from the morning until night
time. What time, BTW, is the average Swiss "dawn" and "dusk" for each season?
But this idea of "compensation" is somewhat confusing. For one thing, these
asylum seekers apparently _did_ get some (they "received little if any"), and
what of the actual asylum received? Doesn't that count for anything?]

[And on the topic of "compensation", let's look at how others fared during the
War:

Taken from the Montreal Gazette, December 11, 1997, page A24.

< begin article 2 >

No money for Chinese WWII slaves

_Associated Press_

TOKYO -- A court ruled yesterday that former Chinese forced labourers were not
entitled to compensation from a Japanese company for the brutal treatment they
endured during World War II.

In its ruling, the Tokyo District Court said the 20-year statute of
limitations in the case bad expired.

District Court Judge Hideho Sonobe also said the company, Kajima Corp., was
not responsible for ensuring safety and humane working conditions for the
Chinese labourers during the war era.

Of the 1,000 Chinese labourers assigned to a Kajima river redirection project
in Hanaoka, 418 died -- the highest death rate for any of Japan's wartime
labour sites. U.S. forces found mass graves in Hanaoka when they liberated the
Chinese forced labourers in October 1945.

But, Sonobe said, "forced conscription from China and the use of Chinese as
forced labourers at Hanaoka was a function of (wartime Japanese Imperial)
rule, and does not make (Kajima's) responsibility legally binding," Sonobe
said.

The plaintiffs, who had sought about $60,000 each in compensation, called the
ruling "an insult" and said they would appeal.

"The court refused to face the historical truth," said plaintiff Geng Zhung,
83. "We refuse to accept the ruling, and protest with anger."

< end article 2 >

Obviously these Chinese don't know how to play the sympathy game.]

Others had it worse, said the report, titled The Unwanted Guests: Swiss Forced
Labor Camps, 1940-44.

Joseph Schmidt, a noted cantor and opera singer from Berlin, thought "he was
fortunate" to reach Switzerland, said Rabbi Marvin Hier, dean and founder of
the Wiesenthal Centre. 

But at one Swiss labour camp, Schmidt was put to work with a pick-axe and soon
complained of chest pains and died of a heart attack after being denied
treatment.

[Well, certainly the Swiss acted stupidly if they denied this man medical
care.]

Linda Shepard, a spokesman for the Swiss Federal Task Force in Bern, a
government agency created to deal with allegations of Swiss misconduct during
World War II, denied allegations Jews were treated like prisoners.

"The refugees could leave the camps on weekends and hundreds were offered to
pursue studies at Swiss universities," she said.

[What? Education at universities?]

"We have to underline that the Jews were not treated differently from other
refugees," she said.

[Obviously this person doesn't understand who she's dealing with: the scum at
the SWC and related parasitical groups apparently have no interest in any of
that.]

"All able-bodied Swiss also had to do mandatory labour to help secure the
survival of Switzerland during the war years."

[Sounds reasonable; much like the conscription of other countries into the
armed forces.]

In a separate statement, the Swiss Foreign Ministry stressed all camps for
civilians and soldiers complied with international law.

[Obviously these people don't understand who they're dealing with: the scum at
the SWC and related parasitical groups apparently have no interest in any of
that.]

The study comes amid increasing pressure from international Jewish
organizations and the international community for the Swiss to divulge the
extent of their wartime dealings with the Nazis and the whereabouts of
possible assets stashed in Swiss banks by Nazi victims.

[But I thought there *wasn't* any "pressure from international Jewish
organizations"! Obviously these people are anti-Semitic (tm).]

< end article 1 >
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Thoughts on the "Holocaust" by Dr. William Pierce

by Dr. William L. Pierce 
Chairman, National Alliance 

National Alliance Main Page
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American Dissident Voices Online Radio
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There's been a lot of commotion in the controlled media recently about
Swiss bankers who supposedly are hiding the assets of various Jews who
perished more than 50 years ago, during the Second World War, in the
so-called "Holocaust."  The idea is that during the war Jews in
Germany, France, and other European countries squirreled their money
away in secret Swiss bank accounts so the Germans couldn't get it.
Then the Jews were hauled off to concentration camps or otherwise came
to an end, and their money still remains in the secret Swiss accounts.
The news stories have hinted that the Swiss bankers have been remiss
in simply keeping the money in the accounts, rather than searching for
heirs or turning it over to Jewish organizations.  It has been
suggested that billions of dollars of Jewish money is being kept from
the Jews to whom it rightfully belongs.  Jewish groups are demanding
that the Swiss set up a fund immediately to reimburse "Holocaust"
survivors.

The Swiss, who are proud of the integrity of their banking system, are
naturally indignant about these Jewish allegations that they have
behaved improperly.  The outgoing president of Switzerland,
Jean-Pascal Delamuraz, called the Jewish media campaign "extortion"
and "blackmail."  The Jews and the media have responded by clamoring
even more insistently that the Swiss should pay billions of dollars to
the Jews.  In fact they now have begun making demands against Sweden
as well.  The Jews claim that the Germans bought raw materials from
Sweden during the war using gold that had been confiscated from Jews,
and that now Sweden owes that gold to Jewish "Holocaust" survivors.

It's really an amazing campaign.  The Swiss bankers have said
repeatedly that they have checked their inactive accounts in the past,
and that they are holding at most a few million dollars which may
belong to the relatives of Jews who died during the war, that it could
not possibly amount to the billions of dollars the Jews are claiming,
and that they have treated the accounts of their Jewish depositors
just like they treat all of their accounts.  Yet the media virtually
ignore what the Swiss say and continue to raise a huge hullabaloo
about the poor, persecuted Jews and how they are being done wrong by
the Swiss and the Swedes.  And, of course, the U.S.  politicians are
jumping into the act, demanding that the Swiss and the Swedes satisfy
the Jews.  It's really amazing.

You know, I haven't talked much in the past about the so-called
"Holocaust," because I've felt that really is a job for the
historians, and I'm not a professional historian.  Unfortunately,
however, the "Holocaust" is one of those politically sensitive
subjects which makes professional historians very nervous.  Jews --
and apologists for the Jews -- have written literally thousands of
"Holocaust" books during the past 50 years, and many of the claims
made in these books are patently false.  The professional historians
know that, but they hesitate to say anything, lest they be branded as
"Holocaust deniers" by the powerful Jewish organizations and by the
controlled news media.

Because of this timidity on the part of the professionals, perhaps we
amateurs really have an obligation to speak out more.  This whole
"Holocaust" business is a fascinating subject, and there's much to be
learned from looking into it, even if one isn't a professional
historian.  Take, for example, the label of "Holocaust denier," which
is pasted on anyone who dares to ask questions about the "Holocaust."
If I comment publicly that the official figure for the number of Jews
who died in the big concentration and labor camp at Auschwitz, in
Poland, has been revised downward recently by the Polish government
>from  an earlier figure of four million to about one million, and I
suggest that perhaps that means that the famous figure of "six
million" Jews killed by the Germans also needs to be revised downward
-- if I make such a suggestion, then I'm immediately denounced as a
"Holocaust denier."  That's the standard phrasing that's been agreed
on by all of the big Jewish outfits, the news media, the bought
politicians, and so on:  "Holocaust denier."  That's what you're
called if you question anything about the official myth, and it's a
crooked tactic.  It deliberately makes it look like you're denying
that there ever was any such thing as a "Holocaust."  It's a label
that's designed to make any questioner look like some sort of
extremist who denies that anything at all happened to the Jews during
the Second World War.  That's crooked, isn't it?

I know that Jews were killed during the war.  I've talked with German
soldiers who shot Jews.  In the war against the Soviet Union and
Communism, the Germans found that virtually all of the Jews they
encountered on the Eastern Front were Communist partisans, that Jews
were heavily involved in Communist guerrilla activities, in sabotage,
and in other hostile actions against the Germans.  Often the only way
to pacify an area was to round up all of the Jews and ship them off to
a concentration camp or to shoot them.  Most of the other folks on the
Eastern Front -- the Poles, the Ukrainians, often even the Russians --
were happy enough to have the German Army get the Communists off their
backs, but the Jews were fanatically pro-Communist.  The Soviet
Political Commissars who were attached to all Red Army units to spy on
ordinary Russian soldiers and look for any signs of Political
Incorrectness nearly always were Jews, and the German Army in many
cases separated these Jewish Political Commissars from their Russian
prisoners of war and shot the commissars.

I also know that Germans didn't like Jews, and Hitler especially
didn't like them, and as a consequence the German government tried
very hard to encourage Jews to leave Germany, even before the war.
Laws were passed limiting Jewish participation in some professions --
such as the law and publishing -- where they were heavily
overrepresented.

So I know that something did happen to the Jews in Europe both before
and during the Second World War, and if they want to call that
something a "Holocaust," that's all right with me.  I don't deny that
something did happen.  I don't deny that there was a "Holocaust."  I'm
just interested in checking the details, in checking the facts.  But
as soon as I or anyone else does that, we're called "Holocaust
deniers."

That's interesting, because the obvious intent of the people who use
that label is to discourage us from asking questions.  They don't want
the details checked.  They don't want anyone looking for any facts
other than the official facts they present to us.  And, you know,
after being called a "Holocaust denier" a hundred times or so, I've
come to believe that the reason they don't want their facts checked is
that they know that in many cases their facts are false.  Now, that's
really crooked -- but I believe that to be an accurate assessment of
the situation.

I first became interested in the "Holocaust" enough to want to check
it out when I encountered some especially fanciful accounts by
so-called "survivors."  I read accounts by Jews who claimed that they
saw German soldiers grabbing Jewish babies by their legs and swinging
their heads against brick walls to smash out their brains.  One Jewess
told of witnessing German soldiers carrying Jewish children one at a
time up the stairs to the top of a building, throwing them off, and
laughing when they hit the pavement below and were killed.  Other Jews
made the claim that they saw German guards separate Jews out from
prisoners arriving at concentration camps, pour gasoline on them, and
set them afire, right on the train platform.  And there were other
stories about Jewish prisoners with colorful tattoos being selected
>from  the camps and then skinned so that their tattooed skin could be
made into lampshades.  Now, these stories just didn't jibe with what I
knew about the German Army and the German government during that
period.  I knew that the Germans didn't like Jews, but I also knew
that the German Army was the best disciplined army in the world.  I
knew that they had a better record of behavior in the countries they
occupied than any other army in the Second World War
-- including the U.S.  Army.  I had until that point believed the
stories that the Germans had methodically herded the Jews into gas
chambers.  But I really doubted that any disciplined army would
tolerate its soldiers just killing prisoners for sport -- certainly
not the German Army.

If you saw the anti-German propaganda film which came out a couple of
years ago, Schindler's List, you will remember that it portrayed the
German commandant of a labor camp shooting Jewish inmates with a
hunting rifle from his balcony for sport.  That was the sort of thing
I had questioned when I first encountered these stories.  And yet,
very few other people were questioning these accounts.  Newspapers and
magazines and books were reporting them as if they were unquestionably
true.

Well, anyway, I began looking into the matter in detail, and I
discovered many interesting things.  I discovered that some Jews had
been killed, and I discovered the circumstances under which they were
killed.  I discovered that many more Jews simply died under the
conditions that existed toward the end of the war, when malnutrition
and disease were rampant in the prison camps.  I discovered that the
total number of Jews who were killed and who died of disease was
substantially less than the six million claimed by the Jewish
propagandists.  Most important, I discovered that a great many lies
had been told about what had happened during the "Holocaust."  I
discovered that most of the tales about gas chambers -- that is, the
ones that could be checked out -- were not true.  I discovered that
not a single one of the stories about bashing out babies' brains or
throwing children off buildings or shooting prisoners with hunting
rifles for sport, a la Schindler’s List, could be substantiated, and
that they were almost certainly false.

Now, all of that is interesting in itself;  at least, it is
interesting to me.  It is a part of our history.  I could talk all day
about the details, about the facts that I discovered when I began
looking into the "Holocaust," but I don't want to bore you.  If you
really want to know the details, write to the Institute for Historical
Review, P O Box 2739, Newport Beach, California, 92659.  They're
experts, and they're honest.

To me what's even more interesting about the "Holocaust" story than
all of the holes in it is the motivation behind it, the way the story
is being used today, and the response of various elements of our
society to it.  Let's talk about that for a minute.  Let's go back for
a moment to that deliberately misleading label of "Holocaust denier"
that I mentioned earlier.  If you've spent any time exploring the
Internet -- especially some of the political discussion groups on the
Internet -- you'll have heard that term "Holocaust denier" often
enough.  It's not that the "Holocaust" is a hot topic of discussion on
the Internet.  It isn't.  But it is discussed occasionally, along with
just about every other topic under the sun, and it's discussed openly,
without fear.  The Internet is just about the only place left where
one can discuss politically sensitive topics openly.  And that just
drives the big Jewish censorship organizations crazy.  They don't want
any open discussion of the "Holocaust."  They're terrified of it.  The
Simon Wiesenthal Center has been especially loud in its complaints
about the lack of censorship on the Internet.  Without censorship,
they complain, the "Holocaust deniers" can say anything they want.  If
we don't censor the Internet, the "Holocaust deniers" can come right
into your home and contaminate your child's mind while he's using his
computer to do his homework.

They've tried to intimidate people into silence.  They'll have one of
their own people claim to be a World War II veteran, and his standard
line will be, "Hey, don't try to tell me there wasn't a Holocaust.  I
was there.  I saw the bodies.  So don't try to tell me there wasn't a
Holocaust."

Now, that sort of tactic may work on television, where they control
the whole medium and no one can contradict them.  But on the Internet
people have been contradicting them.  People have been saying, "Hey,
we're not trying to tell you there were no bodies.  We just want to
know how many bodies.  We want to know how they died."  But they will
not engage in a rational discussion with you.  If one trick won't
silence you, they'll try another.  They'll say, "What difference does
it matter how many?  If only one Jew were killed just for being a Jew,
that's a terrible crime.  That's a Holocaust."  That's supposed to
embarrass you into shutting up.  But on the Internet you can come back
and say, "Well, what about the Germans who were killed just because
they were Germans.  What about the Russians and the Ukrainians and the
Hungarians who were killed by some Jewish Commissar just because they
were anti-Communists?  Don't they count?  Wasn't that a crime for
which someone should be held accountable?"

They don't like to hear that.  They really don't.  Try it sometime, if
you have a thick skin and don't mind having them shriek insults at
you.

Their final line of defense is governmental force, governmental
repression.  If they can't embarrass you into silence, they turn to
the politicians and demand laws to make you shut up.  That's what
they've already done in Europe and in Canada, where you can be jailed
for being a "Holocaust denier" -- which means, for questioning
anything at all about what really happened.  There are many people in
German prisons now who made the mistake of saying, "Hey, I was a guard
at such and such a prison camp during the war, and there was no gas
chamber there."  In Britain, they already have laws against
criticizing Jews, but they want the laws toughened, and so they've
turned to the politicians.  And, I'm sorry to say, the politicians in
Britain are just about as crooked a lot as we have here.  The chairman
of the British Labor Party, Tony Blair, is a real piece of filth, of
about the same quality as Bill Clinton.  He hopes to be the new prime
minister after the parliamentary elections coming up in May.  And a
few days ago he announced, with a little prodding from the Labor
Party's Jewish backers, that when he is prime minister he will propose
a new law making "Holocaust denial" a specific crime, so that anyone
who questions whether or not there was a gas chamber in such and such
a place can be locked up, just as in Germany.

And that's what they want to do in America too.  The Jewish lawyers
and journalists and professors -- and their Gentile collaborators --
already are working hard to persuade people that the First Amendment
to our Constitution needs to be scrapped, or at least rewritten.  The
Founding Fathers never intended to protect all types of speech, they
say.  They never intended to protect indecent or hurtful speech.  And
to deny the Holocaust is indecent and hurtful.  They're working hard
on it.  The trendier Gentiles already are falling into line.  Believe
me, they'll be making a strong push to abolish free speech in America
soon.  And they'll tell you that it's for your own good.

But, really, it's for their own good, not ours.  That's probably the
most interesting insight I gained from checking out the "Holocaust."
I learned why they push it so hard, why they've made so many Hollywood
propaganda films like Schindler's List, why they've told so many
whoppers about bashing out babies' brains and making lampshades out of
skinned Jews, why they talked the politicians into letting them have a
Holocaust Museum in Washington, why they've gotten politicians at the
state level to pass laws requiring that the public schools carry
"Holocaust" indoctrination courses, and why they're so desperate to
stop people from asking questions.

I'll tell you, it's not just because they're afraid of being exposed
as liars if they stop defending their old lies with new lies.  It's
not just because they hate the Germans and like to beat them over the
head with the "Holocaust."  And it's not just because they find the
"Holocaust" a convenient excuse for the crimes they have committed and
still are committing against the Palestinian people.  No, there's a
much bigger reason than all of these things -- and a much more
dangerous reason for us, for our people.

But, you know, you listeners out there are intelligent people with at
least a little bit of open-mindedness, a little bit of mental
independence, or you wouldn't be listening to this program.  Why don't
you discover for yourselves why the Jews are so defensive about the
"Holocaust," why they are so afraid for anyone to ask questions about
it?  It's an easy thing to do, and I believe it'll be much more
convincing if you find out for yourselves, instead of having me tell
you.  There are thousands of books out there that they've written.  Go
into any large bookstore or library and you'll find books about the
"Holocaust" by the top "Holocaust" promoters, Jews like Elie Wiesel
and Simon Wiesenthal.  Read these books with an open mind, with a
questioning mind.  Think about the claims they make.  Then get a copy
of my book catalog and read a couple of the books I sell -- or read
some books from the Institute for Historical Review, which I mentioned
earlier -- and think about what you read in these books too.  Make up
your own mind.  I believe you'll find it an illuminating and rewarding
experience.


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From lambert@morgan.net Sun Jan 18 09:16:28 EST 1998
Article: 62781 of alt.discrimination
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Copyright (c) 1998 - Dr. Ingrid A. Rimland

January 15, 1998

Good Morning from the Zundelsite:

When I talked to the producer after the last television show I did in San
Francisco, she told me that the ADL, whose segment will be juxtaposed to
mine, had admitted that their definition of what constitutes a "hate site"
was "arbitrary" and "biased".  It will be interesting to see if that
admission will find its way into the broadcast, or if it will end up on the
editorial cutting floor.

"HateWatch", the outfit that groups and "exposes" what they call "hate
sites", and whose spokesperson of sorts is one Marc Kaufmann, wrote me a
long epistle of his rationale to designate the label "hate" to certain
websites, such as the Zundelsite, while withholding it from others, such as
Nizkor, whom ***we*** would call a "hate site" with far more justification.


A segment of the Kaufmann mindset is as follows:

"Ms. Rimland, you have listed above four organizations (the ADL is, in
fact, a subgroup of B'nai B'rith). Should I detail for you why each group
you cited is or is not a hate group as per the definition from HateWatch
that you cite above?

Nizkor is not a hate group because it does not advocate violence in any
form, nor does it advocate hostility toward any particular race, religion,
nationality, sexual orientation or gender, nor does it disseminate
historically inaccurate information with regards to the aforementioned
groups. You may argue that, in "lobbying" in support of the idea that the
Holocaust is an historical fact that Nizkor is disseminating historically
inaccurate information. Even if this were so (which I will say for the
record it is not -- the Holocaust did, in fact, occur), Nizkor is still not
maligning a race, religion, nationality, sexual orientation or gender by
taking this position. You may argue that the group it is maligning is
Germans. Nothing could be further from the truth. The only group that
Nizkor "maligns" is Nazis and anti-Semites. Unless you are of the opinion,
which I am not, that all Germans are Nazis and anti-Semites, then Nizkor's
position on the Holocaust cannot be taken as a "hate" position given the
above definition."

David Thomas, a well-known Internet writer in our camp, took Marc Kaufmann
on in what he calls "A partial list of illogic in the above".  I bring it
here in full, having added only paragraph breaks to make for easier reading:

(1) After stating that ADL is a subgroup of B'nai Brith, he goes on to
apply the boiler-plate verbiage to B'nai Brith instead of ADL.

The ADL is a spy group, among other nefarious activities, who routinely
advocate hostility toward individuals they unilaterally label as
anti-Semites. I guess promoting hostility toward individuals is OK.

(2) He names and exempts from his definition of hate two groups
identifiable by shared beliefs. I guess promoting hostility toward groups
that are identifiable by the common beliefs of their members is OK. Sounds
awfully like that includes religions though.

(3) He ignores the fact, easily verifiable on Deja News, that Nizkor
"affiliates" have indeed advocated violence and promoted a reeking brand of
obscene hostility on Usenet, without any public censure from Nizkor.  The
fact that these thug-talkers are volunteers does not relieve the parent
organization from responsibility for actions plainly made on Nizkor's
behalf. Chuck Ferree comes quickly to mind, as does Van Alstine.

(4) Per his remarks, Nizkor's 100 megs or more of archived material on some
highly controversial issues and a huge, skimpily documented subject, about
which academic historians have not reached consensus or firm conclusion,
contains no inaccuracies whatsoever. Nizkor seems to adopt the same
attitude per the comments of their "official" spokesmen on Usenet, who have
repeatedly claimed in exchanges that what they represent is the absolute
truth.

In comparison, CODOH makes no such ridiculous claims of infallibility, nor
does Greg Raven, nor any revisionist site I know. The two mentioned by name
in fact request that readers please notify them of any errors spotted.

I don't know how much further you can go to indicate sincerity and good
faith, but Nizkor doesn't even know how to do this. They may have expunged
some of this material, I'm really not sure, but I am positive that for some
time they maintained dossiers on individuals, featuring quotes from their
Usenet postings along with claims that said individuals were, variously,
liars, nazis, neo-nazis, haters, and other scurrilous labels.

The apparent dispensation for this behavior in Kaufmann's explanation is
either that (a) hating individuals is an exempted activity, and/or (b)
Nizkor has made no mistakes in their summary identifications of the inner
thoughts of those targeted, or (c) that it's OK to promote hostility toward
groups with shared beliefs if those assumed and unidentified beliefs are
unpopular with other summary labeling groups who dislike said unenumerated
beliefs, with the strong implication that the only beliefs applicable for
this hate exemption are those critical of unidentified aspects of either
Jewish culture or any activity of the borderless state of Israel.

Let me sum this convoluted (nonsense) and Mr. Kaufmann's real beliefs up in
fewer words. It is not hatred to hate groups or individuals who have been
identified by Zionist activist front groups as sanctioned targets, or who
are openly critical of any aspect of Zionist activities. This dispensation
extends further to cover all activist groups, and their unilateral
pronouncements of targets, who are unofficial supporters of Zionism and/or
political correctness, who do not too openly advocate violence directly.

All Israelis are exempt from any charges of hate advocacy by dent of
ignoring remarks from that quarter. And Elie Wiesel's admonition that all
Jews should maintain a healthy, virile hatred for the German is just a
metaphorical remark that does not advocate what it seems to advocate.

And your check is in the mail, I'll send someone right out, this won't
hurt, etc.

Hate Watch and its ilk are doublespeak promoters of hostility who should be
at the heads of the lists they keep. They are disingenuous,
slippery-talking, self-righteous-appointed and anointed, illogical, biased
if not bigoted members of that growing crowd enthralled with the vicious
premise that "Hating Sanctioned People and Groups is Good Clean Fun and an
Honorable Civic Duty."

They sow the toxic seeds of eventual mob justice, and do so with pride. In
the inevitable lynching scenarios, they are the ones who plant a rope at
the scene beforehand and stand back to watch, deriving vicarious
satisfaction from the end result without taking active part.

If the deeds are called to account, they will piously claim and be able to
document that they have been publicly opposed to such actions all along,
and are innocent of any degree of approval, let alone complicity. They will
then be amongst the moist-lipped observers at the edge of the crowd
watching the duped enablers of their inner wishes getting their necks
stretched.

And the cycle repeats.

The world's been that way for a long time. You wonder sometimes if we'll
ever change. Or ever learn, which of course must come first.

If people want to hate something, they should confine that feeling to
intangibles, such as flawed and socially damaging philosophies. Perhaps
then they'll be struck by the inanity of hating entities with no physical
presence, settle for simply opposing them vigorously, and thereby learn the
value of dispassionate application of the rules of law and reason - said
value being that the third element of a civilized society is compassion,
which is absent when passions are inappropriately invested in the first
two."

David Thomas

Thought for the Day:

"No doubt Jack the Ripper excused himself on the grounds that it was human
nature."

(A. A. Milne)

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 The Committe for Open Discussion of the Holocaust Story (CODOH)
will offer $50,000.00 to the one individual instrumental in
arranging a 90-minute presentation on National network television,
IN PRIME TIME, of the "Video of the Century," our documentary on
Auscwhitz:

___ DAVID COLE INTERVIEWS DR. FRANCISZEK PIPER ____

 This authentic documentary, not a Hollwood movie, written and
directed by the Jewish scholar, David Cole, takes you inside the
disputed Auschwitz "gas chamber." The showing of the documentary 
is to be introduced and followed with a presentation by Bradly R. 
Smith, director of CODOH.

 The video has gained international recognition:

 "Mr. Cole has obviously invested a great deal in researching his 
subject and I admire his tenacious curiousity. Again, I thank you 
for sharing this documentary with other Members of Congress."

*Nancy Kaptur (D), U.S. congresswoman, Ohio


 "I was impressed by the objective and logical way David Cole 
spoke about the Auschwitz gas chamber. Congratulations!"

*Zolt Rabai, Foreign Policy Advisor to the President, Budapest 
(Hungary)


 "(The) first-ever broadcast by a Holocaust denier (sic) from 
within the gates of Auschwitz."

*Rabbi Abraham Cooper, Associate Director, Simon Wiesanthal Center


 "A powerful, dangerous video..."

*Yehuda Bauer, professor of Holocaust Studies, Hebrew Univerisy, 
Tel Aviv, Israel


*****To collect your $50,000 prize money, please locate the CODOH
website at:

___ http://www.codoh.com ____

 And please follow the instructions!

Thank You,
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American Dissident Voices Online Radio
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THE BEAST AS SAINT: The Truth About "Martin Luther King, Jr."
by Kevin Alfred Strom

WHEN THE COMMUNISTS TOOK OVER a country, one of the first things that
they did was to confiscate all the privately-held weapons, to deny the
people the physical ability to resist tyranny. But even more insidious
than the theft of the people's weapons was the theft of their history.
Official Communist "historians" rewrote history to fit the current
party line. In many countries, revered national heroes were excised
>from  the history books, or their real deeds were distorted to fit
Communist ideology, and Communist killers and criminals were converted
into official "saints." Holidays were declared in honor of the beasts
who murdered countless nations.

Did you know that much the same process has occurred right here in
America?

Every January, the media go into a kind of almost spastic frenzy of
adulation for the so-called "Reverend Doctor Martin Luther King, Jr."
King has even had a national holiday declared in his honor, an honor
accorded to no other American, not Washington, not Jefferson, not
Lincoln. (Washington and Lincoln no longer have holidays -- they share
the generic-sounding "President's Day.") A liberal judge has sealed the
FBI files on King until the year 2027. What are they hiding? Let's take
a look at this modern-day plastic god.

Born in 1929, King was the son of a Black preacher known at the time
only as "Daddy King." "Daddy King" named his son Michael. In 1935,
"Daddy King" had an inspiration to name himself after the Protestant
reformer Martin Luther. He declared to his congregation that henceforth
they were to refer to him as "Martin Luther King" and to his son as
"Martin Luther King, Jr." None of this name changing was ever legalized
in court. "Daddy" King's son's real name is to this day Michael King.

King's Brazen Cheating.

We read in Michael Hoffman's "Holiday for a Cheater":

The first public sermon that King ever gave, in 1947 at the Ebenezer
Baptist Church, was plagiarized from a homily by Protestant clergyman
Harry Emerson Fosdick entitled "Life is What You Make It," according to
the testimony of King's best friend of that time, Reverend Larry H.
Williams. The first book that King wrote, "Stride Toward Freedom, --was
plagiarized from numerous sources, all unattributed, according to
documentation recently assembled by sympathetic King scholars Keith D.
Miller, Ira G. Zepp, Jr., and David J. Garrow. And no less an
authoritative source than the four senior editors of "The Papers of
Martin Luther King, Jr.-- (an official publication of the Martin Luther
King Center for Nonviolent Social Change, Inc., whose staff includes
King's widow Coretta), stated of King's writings at both Boston
University and Crozer Theological Seminary: "Judged retroactively by
the standards of academic scholarship, [his writings] are tragically
flawed by numerous instances of  plagiarism.... Appropriated passages
are particularly evident in his writings in his major field of graduate
study, systematic theology." King's essay, "The Place of Reason and
Experience in Finding God," written at Crozer, pirated passages from
the work of theologian Edgar S. Brightman, author of "The Finding of
God--. Another of King's theses, "Contemporary Continental Theology,"
written shortly after he entered Boston University, was largely stolen
>from  a book by Walter Marshall Horton. King's doctoral dissertation, "A
Comparison of the Conceptions of God in the Thinking of Paul Tillich
and Harry Nelson Wieman," for which he was awarded a PhD in theology,
contains more than fifty complete sentences plagiarized from the PhD
dissertation of Dr. Jack Boozer, "The Place of Reason in Paul Tillich's
Concept of God." According to "The Martin Luther King Papers", in
King's dissertation "only 49 per cent of sentences in the section on
Tillich contain five or more words that were King's own...."! In "The
Journal of American History", June 1991, page 87, David J. Garrow, a
leftist academic  who is sympathetic to King, says that King's wife,
Coretta Scott King, who also served as his secretary, was an accomplice
in his repeated cheating. Reading Garrow's article, one is led to the
inescapable conclusion that King cheated because he had chosen for
himself a political role in which a PhD would be useful, and, lacking
the intellectual ability to obtain the title fairly, went after it by
any means necessary. Why, then, one might ask, did the professors at
Crozer Theological Seminary and Boston University grant him passing
grades and a PhD? Garrow states on page 89: "King's academic
compositions, especially at Boston University, were almost without
exception little more than summary descriptions ... and comparisons of
other's writings. Nonetheless, the papers almost always received
desirable letter grades, strongly suggesting that King's professors did
not expect more...." The editors of "The Martin Luther King Jr. Papers"
state that "...the failure of King's teachers to notice his pattern of
textual appropriation is somewhat remarkable...."

But researcher Michael Hoffman tells us "...actually the malfeasance of
the professors is not at all remarkable. King was politically correct,
he was Black, and he had ambitions. The leftist [professors were] happy
to award a doctorate to such a candidate no matter how much fraud was
involved. Nor is it any wonder that it has taken forty years for the
truth about King's record of nearly constant intellectual piracy to be
made public."

Supposed scholars, who in reality shared King's vision of a racially
mixed and Marxist America, purposely covered up his cheating for
decades. The cover-up still continues. From the "New York Times" of
October 11, 1991, page 15, we learn that on October 10th of that year,
a committee of researchers at Boston University admitted that, "There
is no question but that Dr. King plagiarized in the dissertation."
However, despite its finding, the committee said that "No thought
should be given to the revocation of Dr. King's doctoral degree," an
action the panel said "would serve no purpose."

No purpose, indeed! Justice demands that, in light of his willful fraud
as a student, the "reverend" and the "doctor" should be removed from
King's name.

Communist Beliefs and Connections

Well friends, he is not a legitimate reverend, he is not a bona fide
PhD, and his name isn't really "Martin Luther King, Jr." What's left?
Just a sexual degenerate, an America-hating Communist, and a criminal
betrayer of even the interests of his own people.

On Labor Day, 1957, a special meeting was attended by Martin Luther
King and four others at a strange institution called the Highlander
Folk School in Monteagle, Tennessee. The Highlander Folk School was a
Communist front, having been founded by Myles Horton (Communist Party
organizer for Tennessee) and Don West (Communist Party organizer for
North Carolina). The leaders of this meeting with King were the
aforementioned Horton and West, along with Abner Berry and James
Dumbrowski, all open and acknowledged members of the Communist Party,
USA. The agenda of the meeting was a plan to tour the Southern states
to initiate demonstrations and riots.

>From  1955 to 1960, Martin Luther King's associate, advisor, and
personal secretary was one Bayard Rustin. In 1936 Rustin joined the
Young Communist League at New York City College. Convicted of
draft-dodging, he went to prison for two years in 1944. On January 23,
1953 the "Los Angeles Times" reported his conviction and sentencing to
jail for 60 days for lewd vagrancy and homosexual perversion. Rustin
attended the 16th Convention of the Communist Party, USA in February,
1957. One month later, he and King founded the Southern Christian 
Leadership Conference, or SCLC for short. The president of the SCLC was
Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. The vice-president of the SCLC was the
Reverend Fred Shuttlesworth, who was also the president of an
identified Communist front known as the Southern Conference Educational
Fund, an organization whose field director, a Mr. Carl Braden, was
simultaneously a national sponsor of the Fair Play for Cuba Committee,
of which you may have heard. The program director of the SCLC was the
Reverend Andrew Young, in more recent years Jimmy Carter's ambassador
to the UN and mayor of Atlanta. Young, by the way, was trained at the
Highlander Folk School, previously mentioned.

Soon after returning from a trip to Moscow in 1958, Rustin organized
the first of King's famous marches on Washington. The official organ of
the Communist Party, "The Worker,-- openly declared the march to be a
Communist project. Although he left King's employ as secretary in 1961,
Rustin was called upon by King to be second in command of the much
larger march on Washington which took place on August 28, 1964.

Bayard Rustin's replacement in 1961 as secretary and advisor to King
was Jack O'Dell, also known as Hunter Pitts O'Dell. According to
official records, in 1962 Jack O'Dell was a member of the National
Committee of the Communist Party, USA. He had been listed as a
Communist Party member as early as 1956. O'Dell was also given the job
of acting executive director for SCLC activities for the entire
Southeast, according to the St. Louis "Globe-Democrat --of October 26,
1962. At that time, there were still some patriots in the press corps,
and word of O'Dell's party membership became known.

What did King do? Shortly after the negative news reports, King fired
O'Dell with much fanfare. And he then, without the fanfare,
"immediately hired him again-- as director of the New York office of
the SCLC, as confirmed by the "Richmond News-Leader --of September 27,
1963. In 1963 a Black man from Monroe, North Carolina named Robert
Williams made a trip to Peking,  China. Exactly 20 days before King's
1964 march on Washington, Williams successfully urged Mao Tse-Tung to
speak out on behalf of King's movement. Mr. Williams was also around
this time maintaining his primary residence in Cuba, from which he made
regular broadcasts to the southern US, three times a week, from
high-power AM transmitters in Havana under the title "Radio Free
Dixie." In these broadcasts, he urged violent attacks by Blacks against
White Americans.

During this period, Williams wrote a book entitled "Negroes With Guns."
The writer of the foreword for this book? None other than Martin Luther
King, Jr.  It is also interesting to note that the editors and
publishers of this book were to a man all supporters of the infamous
Fair Play for Cuba Committee.

According to King's biographer and sympathizer David J. Garrow, "King
privately described himself as a Marxist." In his 1981 book, "The FBI
and Martin Luther King, Jr.", Garrow quotes King as saying in SCLC
staff meetings, "...we have moved into a new era, which must be an era
of revolution.... The whole structure of American life must be
changed.... We are engaged in the class struggle."

Jewish Communist Stanley Levison can best be described as King's
behind-the-scenes "handler." Levison, who had for years been in charge
of the secret funnelling of Soviet funds to the Communist Party, USA,
was King's mentor and was actually the brains behind many of King's
more successful ploys. It was Levison who edited King's book, "Stride
Toward Freedom." It was Levison who arranged for a publisher. Levison
even prepared King's income tax returns! It was Levison who really
controlled the fund-raising and agitation activities of the SCLC.
Levison wrote many of King's speeches. King described Levison as one of
his "closest friends."

FBI: King Bought Sex With SCLC Money

The Federal Bureau of Investigation had for many years been aware of
Stanley Levison's Communist activities. It was Levison's close
association with King that brought about the initial FBI interest in
King.Lest you be tempted to believe the controlled media's lie about
"racists" in the FBI being out to "get" King, you should be aware that
the man most responsible for the FBI's probe of King was Assistant
Director William C. Sullivan. Sullivan describes himself as a liberal,
and says that initially "I was one hundred per cent for King...because
I saw him as an effective and badly needed leader for the Black people
in their desire for civil rights." The probe of King not only confirmed
their suspicions about King's Communist beliefs and associations, but
it also revealed King to be a despicable hypocrite, an immoral
degenerate, and a worthless charlatan.

According to Assistant Director Sullivan, who had direct access to the
surveillance files on King which are denied the American people, King
had embezzled or misapplied substantial amounts of money contributed to
the "civil rights" movement. King used SCLC funds to pay for liquor,
and numerous prostitutes both Black and White, who were brought to his
hotel rooms, often two at a time, for drunken sex parties which
sometimes lasted for several days. These types of activities were the
norm for King's speaking and organizing tours.

In fact, an outfit called The National Civil Rights Museum in Memphis,
Tennessee, which is putting on display the two bedrooms from the
Lorraine Motel where King stayed the night before he was shot, has
declined to depict in any way the "occupants" --of those rooms. That
according to exhibit designer Gerard Eisterhold "would be "close to
blasphemy." The reason? Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. spent his last
night on Earth having sex with two women at the motel and physically
beating and abusing a third.

Sullivan also stated that King had alienated the affections of numerous
married women. According to Sullivan, who in 30 years with the Bureau
had seen everything there was to be seen of the seamy side of life,
King was one of only seven people he had ever encountered who was such
a total degenerate.

Noting the violence that almost invariably attended King's supposedly
"non-violent" marches, Sullivan's probe revealed a very different King
>from  the carefully crafted public image. King welcomed members of many
different Black groups as members of his SCLC, many of them advocates
and practitioners of violence. King's only admonition on the subject
was that they should embrace "tactical nonviolence."

Sullivan also relates an incident in which King met in a financial
conference with Communist Party representatives, not knowing that one
of the participants was an infiltrator actually working for the FBI.

J. Edgar Hoover personally saw to it that documented information on
King's Communist connections was provided to the President and to
Congress. And conclusive information from FBI files was also provided
to major newspapers and news wire services. But were the American
people informed of King's real nature? No, for even in the 1960s, the
fix was in"the controlled media and the bought politicians were bound
and determined to push their racial mixing program on America. King was
their man and nothing was going to get in their way. With a few minor
exceptions, these facts have been kept from the American people. The
pro-King propaganda machine grinds on, and it is even reported that a
serious proposal has been made to add some of King's writings as a new
book in the Bible.

Ladies and gentlemen, the purpose of this radio program is far greater
than to prove to you the immorality and subversion of this man called
King. I want you to start to think for yourselves. I want you to
consider this: What are the forces and motivation behind the controlled
media's active promotion of King? What does it tell you about our
politicians when you see them, almost without exception, falling all
over themselves to honor King as a national hero? What does it tell you
about our society when any public criticism of this moral leper and
Communist functionary is considered grounds for dismissal? What does it
tell you about the controlled media when you see how they have
successfully suppressed the truth and held out a picture of King that
can only be described as a colossal lie? You need to think, my fellow
Americans. You desperately need to wake up.

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Article: 62833 of alt.discrimination
From: lambert@morgan.net
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 98 22:18:25 GMT
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American Dissident Voices Broadcast of January 17, 1998

WHY SOCIETY IS NUTS
by Dr. William Pierce

I spoke with you last week about the question of sanity: about how to
decide whether it's you or everyone else who is nutty when everyone --
or nearly everyone -- else is doing things or expressing opinions which
seem clearly insane to you. And to be honest, I was using the terms
"sanity" and "insanity" a bit loosely. A clinical psychologist probably
wouldn't classify people as insane just because they're saying or doing
things that objectively don't make sense. Most people who say or do
things which seem crazy aren't clinically insane: they're just following
the herd; they're just being fashionable. They have such a strong
compulsion to be like everyone else and such a weak grip on objective
reality that they will behave in a nutty way if they perceive others
behaving that way. They care more about doing, saying, and even thinking
like the people around them than they care about what makes sense.

Technically speaking, they're not insane, but still something is clearly
wrong. When a herd of cattle stampede over a cliff to their deaths, the
individual cows may be perfectly normal, but still something has gone
badly wrong for the herd. And that's sort of the way it is with our
society today. Collectively we're doing a lot of things which not only
don't make sense but which ultimately will destroy us. And millions of
people who are intelligent enough to see this will not see it because
they don't want to be out of step with the herd. They are terrified of
being out of step with the herd.

Let me give you some specific examples of the sort of collective
nuttiness that will destroy us if we don't do something to get the
loonies back in their cages -- or at least, get the herd stampeding in a
different direction. Consider the dumbing down of America's schools. I
first encountered this back in the 1960s, when I was a physics professor
at a West Coast university. The problem was really a very mild one then.
My habit was to give passing grades only to those students in the
physics graduate courses I was teaching who demonstrated at least
minimal evidence that they would be able to compete successfully in the
rather rigorous world of professional physics if they were given an
advanced degree and turned loose. I thought that my practice was a
reasonable one both from the standpoint of upholding the standards of my
profession and from the standpoint of being merciful to the students by
not throwing them into an arena where they couldn't compete. I was
giving them an early chance to change their career plans. But I was put
under considerable pressure by the university administration to "lighten
up" and stop flunking graduate students. I was "ruining the lives" of
the students I flunked, they told me. I responded that the only
reasonable way to flunk fewer students was to tighten up admission
standards for our graduate school; we were accepting many students who
never should have been given a bachelor's degree. That was the trend,
the administration told me, and you can't fight the trend.

Well indeed, it =was= the trend. And I understand now that I was at
least partly wrong in thinking that I was being merciful to students by
not letting them enter an arena where they couldn't compete. The trend
has made that arena a much kinder, gentler place than it used to be, and
many are competing in it now who wouldn't have been able to survive in
it earlier.

But what has happened to the standards in physics is nothing compared to
what has happened to university standards generally. Physics has been
spared the worst of the dumbing down because it is not the curriculum of
choice for most students, especially not for Black, Mestizo, and female
students. Another reason that some of our universities still are able to
turn out a few good physicists is that physics is relatively
non-political. Whether a particular hypothesis in physics is verified by
experiment or not has very little impact on the sorts of ideas and
issues of concern to feminists, homosexuals, Blacks, democrats, and so
on.

The people at our universities who have really suffered have been those
who wanted to teach or to learn history or literature. From the
viewpoint of the Red Guards, those are =dangerous= subjects, and they've
had to clamp down hard on them in order to keep Politically Incorrect
ideas from being propagated. Actually, the less history and literature
taught the better, from their viewpoint. And they have arranged for this
outcome by doing away with required core courses for undergraduates and
substituting a huge number of completely trivial optional courses in
their place. A great many 18 year olds, when given the choice between a
fairly solid and rigorous course in European history and a nice, fluffy
course titled "Sexual Meanings," say, or "Troubadours and Rock Stars --
a Comparison" will choose one of the latter -- especially since the
latter will give them just as much credit toward a degree. Those two
nice, fluffy courses I just named, by the way, are both offered for
credit by Yale, and they are only two of many which may be taken instead
of history or any other old-style course with substance and rigor.

And if you want to study literature, more and more of our schools are
phasing out the real literature of our people and phasing in the
Freudian, angst-laden trash novels written by Jews or homosexuals, and
they're beating the bushes for resentment-filled feminist diatribes or
pretentious, anti-White stuff written by various Third Worlders. All of
it's pretty depressing fare for any normal White person. And the
impression it leaves on impressionable young people is that writing
significant literature is pretty easy work: all you have to do is have a
glib tongue and learn the fashionable clichés.

On top of this general dumbing down of our schools is the almost total
loss of academic freedom. When I was a professor, the academic freedom
issue was about the right of Marxists, homosexuals, and other marginal
types to introduce their biases into the courses they taught. A lot of
traditional-minded professors thought that such biases had no place on a
university campus, but the liberals -- especially the Jewish liberals --
supported the claims of the Marxists, the homosexuals, and so on, to
teach whatever they wanted to teach.

Well, the liberals won, and now there is no such thing as academic
freedom. If a history professor at virtually any American university,
for example, says in a course on the history of the Second World War
that the Jews' claim that six million of them were killed in "gas ovens"
by the Germans is somewhat exaggerated and not to be taken literally, he
will be out on his ear in a minute, labeled a "Holocaust denier," and
will be unable to find employment as a professor anywhere else. If a
professor in a psychology course suggests to his students that
homosexuals as a general rule have psychological problems that go far
beyond the question of sexual orientation, he too will be looking for a
career in another field. If a biology professor is not very careful what
he says in talking about the differences between men and women, he will
join his colleagues from the history department and the psychology
department in the unemployment line.

The mental blinders put on students are just as restrictive. At a
growing number of universities students are expelled if they say
anything in public which is Politically Incorrect or which offends
someone in one of the favored racial or sexual categories. And these
people are very =easily= offended. Stick your nose into the student
newspapers published at most universities today, and you'll get a good
whiff of this Politically Correct atmosphere.

What has been done to our universities is the equivalent of stampeding
our society toward a cliff. The quality of the higher education in
America, the quality of the training we provide to our university
students, is vital to our being able to remain competitive in a
competitive world; ultimately, it is vital to our survival as an
independent nation.

And similar things have been done to many other institutions in American
society: our armed forces, for example, where the requirement for
Politically Correct attitudes on such matters as race and sex has led to
situations which would be laughable if they weren't so dangerous.
Pregnancies of soldiers and sailors have become a major impediment to
military readiness. Some units come back from a tour of duty with more
than ten per cent of their female personnel pregnant. The bending of
rules and the lowering of standards to accommodate women has had a major
impact on both combat readiness and morale. Dealing with and trying to
prevent sexual harassment keeps many commanders tied in knots. And it's
all completely unnecessary. An all-male military establishment would be
much more effective and would make much more sense than the present
military experiment in sexual equality on just about every ground
=except= that of Political Correctness. But it is Political Correctness
which prevails.

Affirmative action has done about as much damage to American society and
the American economy as any of the other lunatic schemes imposed on us
by the minions of Political Correctness. Three decades of admitting,
hiring, or promoting less qualified people on the basis of race or sex
has lowered standards in our professional schools and reduced our
economic efficiency. We are becoming a less competent nation. And that
doesn't make sense either.

I could talk about immigration. It is really crazy that our government
refuses to enforce its own immigration laws or control our borders. A
flood of non-Whites from the Third World continues to pour into this
country, both legally and illegally. The government makes a pretense of
stopping the flow of illegals and then give thousands of illegals what
amounts to an amnesty with fully legal, permanent residence status to
follow. And America's cities become darker and darker.

Or I could talk about our courts, which have become one of my pet
peeves. It's clear to every knowledgeable observer that the court system
is broken, but no one will say so. In those parts of the country where
non-Whites make up a majority of the jury pool, the courts have gone
nuts. The sort of thing which happened in the O.J. Simpson trial happens
every day, with juries handing down judgments which make no sense at
all. Many of these judgments are in civil cases, with non-White juries
deciding on astronomical judgments against companies based on frivolous
claims of injuries. Every such judgment runs up the cost of doing
business, and that cost is passed on to all of us.

It's not just the formal courts of law. There's a growing number of
quasi-judicial committees and commissions and boards springing up in the
name of "human rights" and exercising punitive powers against Political
Incorrectness. A news clipping from the _Toronto Star_ I have in front
of me now is about the recent decision of the Human Rights Commission of
Ontario, Canada. This commission has just levied a fine of $10,000
against the mayor of London, Ontario, for refusing to proclaim a Gay
Pride Day as ordered by the commission.

We tolerate this insanity; the normal White people of the United States
and Canada tolerate it, and that doesn't make sense either.

All of this insane behavior -- in our schools, our armed forces, our
government, our whole society -- is based on two ideas, two motives,
firmly rooted in a portion of our population. One of these ideas is that
everyone is equal; that is, everyone has the same capabilities and
characteristics: women are equal to men, children are equal to their
parents, students are equal to their professors, Blacks are equal to
Whites.

The other idea -- or motive -- is resentment: the idea that if you have
something I don't have then it's your fault and you owe me something. If
there are more Whites in law school than Blacks, it's because potential
Black lawyers are being held down by Whites. If there are more men in
medical school than women, it's because men don't want women to become
doctors and are oppressing women. It's not fair that you should have a
better education than I, or better grades, or a better job, or a higher
social status, or a nicer house. Since we're equal, I should have
everything you have, and if I don't then the government, the school
administration, the police, the local Human Rights Commission, or
=somebody= must do something to change it. Heck, if you're better
looking than I am, or if you're healthier, then you owe me, and you
should feel guilty for it.

These two motives -- egalitarianism and resentment -- were the driving
force for the social revolution of the 1960s. Supported and encouraged
by the Jewish mass media and led to a very large extent by Jewish
activists among feminists, among students, and among homosexuals, a
coalition of resentful egalitarians and resentful losers managed to turn
American society upside down. The lunatics managed to gain control of
the asylum.

There was no really effective opposition to these people. Some
universities held out longer than others, but none of them really put up
a fight. Some military leaders saw where things were going and simply
retired, while others went along with the trend.

Basically, the reason that nobody put up a real fight against these
deranged egalitarians is that the Jewish media were backing them 100 per
cent, and the media bosses are masters of propaganda. Anybody who
opposed the lunatics was blasted as a "hater" or a "bigot" or an
"extremist." Most people, even if they weren't persuaded by the
egalitarian propaganda, figured it was safer to go along with the
lunatics than to oppose them. Our whole society has paid an enormous
price for that lack of courage and lack of principle.

After their initial successes the coalition of those who felt that they
had been dealt a poorer hand than they were entitled to grew to include
new categories of losers and victims who were convinced that they were
being oppressed by society unless society gave them something to make up
for what Nature hadn't given them. Old people were owed something by
those who were not old. Disabled people were owed something by those who
were not disabled. People with AIDS were owed something by people
without AIDS. It has gotten to the point where even drug addicts,
alcoholics, and criminals are owed something by the rest of us. It's
truly a crazy situation.

I am not implying, of course, that all elderly people or all people with
some physical disability have let themselves be persuaded that society
owes them something, any more than all women have let themselves be
persuaded by the feminist lunatics that they are oppressed by men. But
enough people have joined the coalition of convinced victims and losers
to elect Bill Clinton twice, despite his criminal behavior -- or perhaps
because of it. And that is really crazy.

So here we are, stampeding toward the cliff. What can we do about it?

Well, for one thing, those of us who are still able to think for
ourselves don't have to go along with the stampede. Opting out of the
stampede, of course, exposes one to some danger of being trampled by the
rest of the herd. That danger is the cost of doing what is not only sane
but what is right. But let's not exaggerate that danger. Let's not let
it frighten us into inactivity, because there's also a reward for doing
what's right. That reward is called self-respect.

And of course, doing what's sane is a first step toward dealing with the
herd's stampede toward the cliff. The ultimate reward for solving that
problem is racial survival.

And so another thing we can do now -- besides keeping our own thinking
straight -- is make a realistic plan for changing the direction in which
the herd is stampeding. Remember, most of the cattle are not really
crazy. They've just let themselves be misled by a relatively small hard
core of resentful egalitarians -- and by the Jewish media bosses who
have engineered the whole stampede. If we had control of the media, it
would be a fairly simple matter to separate most of the herd from the
hard-core lunatics. The lunatics could go over the cliff -- or back into
their cages -- while the rest of the herd stampeded in a more reasonable
direction. Unfortunately, of course, we don't control the mass media:
just this radio program and a few printed periodicals and a book
publishing service and a few other things. Not much compared to
Hollywood, the big networks, the _New York Times,_ and MTV, but it's a
start. It is a voice of sanity in the lunatic asylum. Our voice doesn't
have much effect on the lunatics or on those firmly in the grip of the
stampede, but you'd be surprised at how many reasonable people there are
scattered here and there in the herd who do listen. If you join your
voice to ours, even more people will listen.
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From lambert@morgan.net Sun Jan 18 09:16:29 EST 1998
Article: 62836 of alt.discrimination
From: lambert@morgan.net
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 98 22:31:16 GMT
Subject: The Holohoax in a Nutshell
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Holocaust Revisionism in a Nutshell:

(Bruce Hagen)


Observers of the debate about the Holocaust may come away with some
grotesque misimpressions about Holocaust Revisionism from the postings
that appear on the Internet, pro and con. Here is what Holocaust
Revisionism is and is not:

1 - Revisionists object to the terminology "THE Holocaust," which by
implication suggests it was unique, monumental, over-arching, perhaps
even the central historical event of our century if not epoch. In fact
there have been many holocausts over the centuries, a good portion of
them in our own Twentieth century. The Jewish Holocaust is merely one
of them.

>From  the point of view of the world as a whole it is far from the
greatest or most terrible, Hollywood to the contrary notwithstanding.
A marked improvement in both accuracy and objectivity can be achieved
if the term "Jewish Holocaust" is substituted for the term "THE
Holocaust." 

2 - Having stated the previous, it is therefore obvious that
Revisionists do not "deny" the Jewish Holocaust as their critics
claim. (Though of course it is understandable why those critics assert
this; if, in a debate about the shape of the earth, you can
successfully pin on someone the label "flat-earther," you've scored
big points even if what they say is very far from the absurdity of
such a posture.) Revisionists are, in fact, Holocaust DIMINISHERS, not
deniers. They are questioners about what they believe are significant
exaggerations in the Holocaust tale, and they are critics of the view
that somehow this historical event is beyond discussion on pain of
being placed in the category of child-molester or worse, shunned by
society, even fined and imprisoned by some so-called free countries in
the western world.

3 - Revisionists do not deny that there was much Jewish suffering
during WW II, that there were many Jews who had property confiscated
wrongfully, that many Jews died of disease or starvation in terrible
conditions or were killed, that there were terrible brutalities and
atrocities committed against Jews by Germans and others. None of this
do Revisionists deny. Revisionists do diminish the impact of these
facts by pointing out that WWII was the bloodiest, deadliest, most
atrocity-ridden conflict in the history of man and that there was
criminal behavior on all sides. One need merely mention Dresden,
Hiroshima, Nagasaki, the deadly carpet bombing of German and Japanese
working class living areas, the Soviet rape of Germany in their 1945
advance, the treatment of German civilians and German POW's after the
war. One could go on almost ad infinitum in this recitation of
atrocities. Fifty million - some say sixty million - died as a result
of the war. Was there more criminal behavior on one side than the
other? Perhaps. Perhaps not. Many revisionists would probably tend to
say no, because:

4 - Contrary to Holocaust Mythology there was no attempt by Nazis, or
anyone else, to exterminate the Jews. There was an attempt, largely
successful in the areas controlled by the Axis, to expel the Jews from
Europe. In the context of the 1990's it was a terrible undertaking. In
a different context, the context of European history over the last two
millennia, the expulsion of the Jews from this region or that region
was not uncommon. Historically there seems to be something about the
Jews that brings forth a plenitude of animosity on the part of people
amongst whom they live.

5 - What is the basis for Revisionists asserting there was no
attempted genocide of the Jews? The linch-pin in this argument is
simply that there were no gas chambers. None. Zero. Nada. There is NO
evidence of gas chambers that an objective person can find credible.
There is growing credible evidence that what purport to be the remains
of gas chambers at Auschwitz, and elsewhere, are frauds - less
believable than Potemkin villages. There are NO documents, NO orders,
NO planning, NO blueprints, NO photographs, NO autopsies - NOTHING
that is definitively or even reasonably credible to support gas
chambers. It is not believable that an enterprise as massive as the
extermination through gassing of six million people in two or three
years in a chaotic environment would not leave behind some physical
evidence, some documentary remains. And yet there isn't any. As
Professor Arno Mayer, the Princeton historian (who is Jewish), has
said, "Sources for the study of the gas chambers are at once rare and
unreliable." He wouldn't make such an admission if any credible
evidence existed. And he was writing in the late 1980's. 

6 - What does exist - as Revisionists are as aware as anyone - are, by
the tens or even hundreds of thousands, testimonies and confessions.
Many, if not most, of the testimonies are preposterous, preternatural,
not in keeping with the laws of the physical world. The confessions
(were) typically made by persons seeking desperately to curry favor
with their captors or their jailers, to save their lives and the lives
of their families in the prostrate world of utterly defeated Nazi
Germany. Most are "coerced" confessions, as in "sign this or we'll
pull some more of your fingernails out. Or we'll turn your wife and
children over to the Russians."

7. Also existing are testimonies of survivors of the concentration
camps, of camp personnel, of nearby civilians who had some connection
or other with the camps, testimonies which completely contradict the
notion that massive extermination programs were ongoing. All of these
testimonies are of course discounted and denigrated because they do
not further Holocaustery. And then there are the aerial photographs
made during the war by allied fly-overs of Auschwitz and other camps
which lend no support whatever to the Holocaust story.

8 - Why would so many people lie? is the question invariably put to
Revisionists. Some lie because it is quite profitable. There is no
business like Shoah Business, said one Jewish observer some years ago
in a candid moment. Others lie because it is helpful to Israel, or for
any of thousands of other perfectly understandable reasons. Lying, or
mythologizing, is a common human trait according to Joseph Campbell.
Many others among the testifiers are not lying. They believe sincerely
in what they proclaim about the gas chambers, about having seen them,
about having seen the victims, about having seen the smoke rise from
the stacks, etc. etc. They are "honest and true believers" (as
Elizabeth Loftus would put it) in the myth because it is important to
them and to the Jewish people that the myth survive. The Holocaust has
become the unifying myth of modern Jewry, as we all know. Even Jews
who believe in the Holocaust will admit this if they are honest. Some
people believe in Jesus, some in Mohammed, some in the efficacy of
crystals, some in the Jewish Holocaust Myth. Revisionists for the most
part are non-believers in mythology. 

9 - There were no gas chambers but there were many Jews who died or
were killed. They were executed by the thousands for opposing German
advances toward the east, for partisan activities connected with that
opposition, for numerous other reasons. Jews by the tens of thousands
died in the concentration camps of deadly epidemics of disease, they
died in the latter stages of the war of starvation when Germany was
collapsing. (Professor Mayer, a rare historian, has admitted many more
Jews died this way than were executed.) How many died during the war?
A lot. Most Revisionists would probably say half a million, perhaps as
many as a million. But not six million. Too many survived the war for
that number to be anything but part of the Jewish Holocaust Myth. If a
million did die it was but two per cent of the total slaughter of
World War II. That's the reality of the Jewish Holocaust. Two per
cent. 98% of the blood bath of World War II involved other than Jews.
Why, Revisionists ask, is almost the sole concentration today on
Jewish deaths? Why has the Jewish Holocaust become "the" event of the
1930'S and 1940's around which all others revolve including even World
War II itself? 

10 - The truth about what Revisionists claim, in summary, is this: 

     1) The Jewish Holocaust is but one of many Holocausts even in the
     twentieth century; 

     2) There were no gas chambers and no attempt by the Germans to
     exterminate Jewry, expulsion being very different from
     extermination; 

     3) The common figure of six million is too large by 500% at
     least; 

     4) World War II was a slaughterhouse of unprecedented proportions
     for everyone involved - not just Jews, who made up perhaps 2% of
     the total fatalities. 


In 50 or 100 years, when the Holocaust Myth has met its proper demise,
what Revisionists believe today will be standard historical canon from
which only cranks and religious zealots will dissent. 
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From lambert@morgan.net Sun Jan 18 09:16:29 EST 1998
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THE MUMMIES OF XINJIANG

In the dry hills of this central Asian province, archaeologists 
have unearthed more than 100 corpses that are as much as 4,000 
years old, astonishingly well preserved -- and Caucasian.
 
One glimpse of the corpses was enough to shock Victor 
Mair profoundly. In 1987, Mair, a professor of Chinese at 
the University of Pennsylvania, was leading a tour group 
through a museum in the Chinese city of Urumqi, in the 
central Asian province of Xinjiang, when he accidentally 
strayed into gloomy, newly opened room. There, under glass, 
lay the recently discovered corpses of a family - a man, a 
woman, and a child of two or three -- each clad in long, 
dark purple woolen garments and felt boots. "Even today I 
get chills thinking about that first encounter," says Mair. 
"The Chinese said they were 3,000 years old, yet the bodies 
looked as if they were buried yesterday."
 
But the real shock came when Mair looked closely at their 
faces. In contrast to most central Asian peoples,these 
corpses had obvious Caucasian, or European, features - 
blond hair, long noses, deep-set eyes, and long skulls.
"I was thunderstruck," Mair recalls. "Even though I was 
supposed to be leading a tour group, I just couldn't leave 
that room. The questions kept nagging at me: Who were these 
people? How did they get out here at such an early date?"
 
The corpses Mair saw that day were just a few of more 
than 100 dug up by Chinese archeologists over the past 
16 years. All of them are astonishingly well preserved.
They come from four major burial sites scattered between 
the arid foothills of the Tian Shan ("Celestial Mountains") 
in northwest China and the fringes of the the Taklimakan 
Desert, some 150 miles due south. All together, these 
bodies, dating from about 2000 B.C. to 300 B.C., constitute
significant additions to the world's catalog of prehistoric 
mummies. Unlike the roughly contemporaneous mummies of ancient 
Egypt, the Xinjiang mummies were not ruler or nobles; they 
were not interred in pyramids or other such monuments,
nor were they subjected to deliberate mummification procedures. 
They were preserved merely by being buried in the parched, 
stony desert, where daytime temperatures often soar over 
100 degrees. In the heat the bodies were quickly dried, with 
facial hair, skin, and other tissues remaining largely intact.
 
Where exactly did these apparent Caucasians come from? And 
what were they doing at remote desert oases in central Asia?
 
Any answers to these questions will most likely fuel a
wide-ranging debate about the role outsiders played in the 
rise of Chinese civilization. As far back as the second 
century B.C., Chinese texts refer to alien peoples called 
the Yuezhi and the Wusun, who lived on China's far western 
borders; the texts make it clear that these people were 
regarded as troublesome "barbarians." Until recently, 
scholars have tended to downplay evidence of any early 
trade or contact between China and the West, regarding 
the development of Chinese civilization as an essentially 
homegrown affair scaled off from outside influences; indeed, 
this view is still extremely congenial to the present Chinese 
régime. Yet some archaeologists have begun to argue that these 
supposed barbarians might have been responsible for introducing 
into China such basic items as the wheel and the first metal 
objects. Exactly who these central Asian outsiders might have 
been, however -- what language they spoke and where they 
came from -- is a puzzle. No wonder, then, that scholars see 
the discovery of the blond mummies as a sensational new clue.
 
Although Mair was intrigued by the mummies,the political 
climate of the late 1980s (the Tiananmen Square massacre 
occurred in 1989) guaranteed that any approach to Chinese 
archaeological authorities would be fraught with difficulties. 
So he laid the riddle to one side as he returned to his main 
area of study, the translation and analysis of ancient Chinese 
texts. Then, in September 1991, the discovery of the 5,000 feet. 
Photos of the Ice Man's corpse, dried by the wind and then 
buried by a glacier, reminded Mair of the desiccated mummies 
in the Urumqi museum. And he could't help wondering
whether some of the scientific detective methods now being 
applied to the Ice Man, including DNA analysis of the preserved 
issue, could help solve the riddle of Xinjiang.
 
With China having become more receptive to outside scholars, 
Mair decided to launch a collaborative investigation with 
Chinese scientists. He contacted Xinjiang's leading archaeologist, 
Wang Binghua, who had found the first of the mummies in 1978. 
Before Wang's work in the region, evidence of early
settlements was virtually unknown. In the late 1970s, though, 
Wang had begun a systematic search for ancient cites in the 
northeast corner of Xinjiang Province. "He knew that ancient 
peoples would have located their settlements long a stream to 
have a reliable source of water," says Mair. As he followed 
one such stream from its source in the Tian Shan, says Mair, 
"Wang would ask the local inhabitants whether they had ever 
found any broken bowls, wooden artifacts, or the like. Finally 
one older man told him of a place locals called Qizilchoqa, or 
'Red Hillock.'"
 
It was here that the first mummies were unearthed. This 
was also the first site visited last summer by Mair and his 
collaborator, Paolo Francalacci, an anthropological geneticist 
at the University of Sassari in Italy. Reaching Qizilchoqa 
involved a long, arduous drive east from Urumqi. For a day
and a half Mair, Wang, and their colleagues bounced inside 
four-wheel-drive Land Cruisers cross rock-strewn dirt roads 
>from  one oasis to the next. Part of their journey eastward 
followed China's Silk Road, the ancient trade route that 
evolved in the second century B.C. and connected China to 
the  West. Finally they reached the village of Wupu; 
goats scattered as the vehicles edged their way through 
the back streets. Next to the village as a broad green 
ravine, and after the researches had maneuvered their 
way into it, the sandy slope of the Red Hillock 
suddenly became visible.
 
"It wasn't much to look at," Mair recalls, "about 20 
acres on a gentle hill ringed by barbed wire. There's 
a brick work shed where tools are stored and the visiting 
archaeologists sleep. But you could spot the shallow 
depressions in the sand where the graves were." As Mair 
watched, Wang's team began digging up several previously 
excavated corpses that had been reburied for lack of adequate 
storage facilities at the Urumqi museum. Mair didn't have to, 
wait long, just a couple of feet below the sand, the 
archaeologists came across rush matting and wooden logs 
covering a burial chamber with mud bricks. Mair was 
surprised by the appearance of the logs: they looked 
as if they had just been chopped down. Then the first 
mummy emerged from the roughly six-foot-deep pit. For 
Mair the moment was nearly as charged with emotion as 
that first encounter in the museum. "When you're standing 
right next to these bodies, as well preserved as they are, 
you feel a sense of personal closeness to them," he says. 
"It's almost supernatural - you feel that somehow life 
persists even though you're looking at a dried-out corpse."
 
Mair and Francalacci spent the day examining the corpses, 
with Francalacci taking tissue samples to identify the 
genetic origins of the corpses. "He took small samples 
>from  unexposed areas of the bodies,' says Mair, "usually 
>from  the inner thighs or underarms. We also took a few bones, 
usually pieces of rib that were easy to break off, since 
bone tends to preserve the DNA better than muscle tissue 
or skin." Francalacci wore a face mask and rubber gloves 
to avoid contaminating the samples with any skin flakes 
that would contain his own DNA. The samples were placed 
in collection jars, sealed, and labeled; Mair made a 
photographic and written record of the collection.
 
So far 113 graves have been excavated at Qizilchoqa;
probably an equal number remain to be explored. Based 
on carbon-14 dating by the Chinese and on the style 
of painted pots found with the corpses, all the mummies 
here appear to date to around 1200 B.C. Most were 
found on their backs with their knees drawn up - a 
position that allowed the bodies to fit into the small
burial chambers. They are fully clothed in brightly 
colored woolen fabrics, felt and leather boots, and 
sometimes leather coats. The men generally have light 
brown or blond hair, while the women have long braids; 
one girl has blue tattoo marks on her wrist. Besides 
pottery, resting alongside them are simple items 
>from  everyday life: combs made of wood, needles of bone,
spindle whorls for spinning thread, hooks, bells, loaves 
of bread, and other food offerings. The artifacts provide 
further proof that these were not the burial sites of the 
wealthy: had the graves been those of aristocrats, laden 
with precious bronzes, they probably would have been 
robbed long ago.
 
However, Wang and his colleagues have found some 
strange if not aristocratic, objects in the course 
of their investigations in Xinjiang. At a site near 
the town of Subashi 310 miles west of Qizilchoqa, 
that dates to about the fifth century B.C., they 
unearthed a woman wearing a two-foot-long black felt 
peaked hat with a flat brim. Though modern Westeners 
may find it tempting to identify the hat as the 
headgear of a witch, there is evidence that pointed 
hats were widely worn by both women and men in some  
central Asian tribes. For instance, around 520 B.C., 
the Persian king Darius recorded a victory over the 
"Sakas of the pointed hats"; also, in 1970 in Kazakhstan, 
just over China's western border, the grave of a man 
>from  around the same period yielded a two-foot-tall 
conical hat studded with magnificent gold-leaf 
decorations. The Subashi woman's formidable headgear, 
then, might be an ethnic badge or a symbol of prestige 
and influence.
 
Subashi lies a good distance from Qizilchoqa, and 
its site is at least seven centuries younger, yet 
the bodies and their clothing are strikingly similar. 
In addition to the "witch's hat," clothing found there 
included fur coats and leather mittens; the Subashi 
women also held bags containing small knives and herbs, 
probably for use as medicines. A typical Subashi man, 
said by the Chinese team to be at least 55 years old, 
was found lying next to the corpse of a woman in a 
shallow burial chamber. He wore a sheepskin coat, 
felt hat, and long sheepskin boots fastened at the 
crotch with a belt.
 
Another Subashi man has traces of a surgical 
operation on his neck; the incision is sewn up with 
sutures made of horsehair. Mair was particularly 
struck by this discovery because he knew of a Chinese 
text from the third century A.D. describing the life 
of Huatuo, a doctor whose exceptional skills were said 
to have included the extraction and repair of diseased 
organs. The text also claims that before surgery, 
patients drank a mixture of wine and an anesthetizing 
powder that was possibly derived from opium. Huatuo's 
story is all the more remarkable in that the notion 
of surgery was heretical to ancient Chinese medical 
tradition, which taught that good
health depended on the balance and flow of natural 
forces throughout the body. Mair wonders if the Huatuo 
legend might relate to some lost Asian medical tradition 
practiced by the Xinjiang people. One clue is that  
the name Huatuo is uncommon in China and seems close 
to the Sanskrit word for medicine.
 
THE WOOLEN GARMENTS WORN BY THE MUMMIES MAY provide 
some clue to where exactly the Xinjiang people came 
from. A sample of cloth brought back by Mair was 
examined by University of Pennsylvania anthropologist 
Irene Good, a specialist in early Eurasian textiles. 
Examining the cloth under a low-power microscope, she 
saw that the material was not, strictly speaking, wool 
at all. Wool comes from the undercoat of a sheep; this
material appeared  to have been spun from the coarse 
outer hair (called kemp) of a sheep or goat.
Despite the crudeness of the fibers, they were 
carefully dyed green, blue, and brown to make a plaid 
design. They were also woven in a diagonal twill pattern 
that indicated the use of a rather sophisticated loom. 
The overall technique, Good believes, is "characteristically 
European" and, she says, the textile is "the easternmost 
known example of this kind of weaving technique." Similar 
textile fragments, she notes, have been recovered from 
roughly the same time period at sites in Germany, Austria, 
and Scandinavia.
 
Another hint of outside connections struck Mair as he 
roamed across Qizilchoqa. Crossing an unexcavated grave, 
he stumbled upon an exposed piece of wood, which he quickly 
realized had once belonged to a wagon wheel. The wheel was 
made in a simple but distinctive way, by doweling together 
three carved, parallel wooden planks. This style of wheel 
is significant: wagons with nearly identical wheels are 
known from the grassy plains of the Ukraine from as far 
back as 3000 B.C.
 
Most researchers now think the birthplace of horsedrawn 
vehicles and horse riding was in the steppes east and 
west of the Urals rather than in China or the Near East. 
As archaeologist David Anthony and his colleagues have 
shown through microscopic study of ancient horse teeth, 
horses were already being harnessed in the Ukraine 6,000 
years ago. The Ukraine horses, Anthony found, show a 
particular kind of tooth wear identical to that of modern
horses that "fight the bit." The world's earliest 
high-status vehicles also seem to have originated 
in the steppes; recent discoveries of wooden chariots with
elaborate spoked wheels were reported by Anthony to date 
to around 2000 B.C. Chariots do not seem to have appeared 
in China until some 800 years later.
 
A number of artifacts recovered from the Xinjiang 
burials provide important evidence for early horse riding. 
Qizilchoqa yielded a wooden bit and leather reins, a horse 
whip consisting of a single strip of leather attached to a 
wooden handle, and a wooden cheekpiece with leather straps. 
This last object was decorated with an image of the sun that 
was probably religious in nature and that was also found 
tattooed on some of the mummies. And at Subashi, archaeologists 
discovered a padded leather saddle of exquisite workmanship.
 
Could the Xinjiang people have belonged to a mobile, 
horse-riding culture that spread from the plains of 
eastern Europe? Does this explain their European 
appearance? If so, could they have been speaking an 
ancient forerunner of modern European, Indian, and 
ranian languages? Though the idea is highly 
speculative, a number of archaeologists and linguists think
the spread of Indo-European languages may be linked 
to the gradual spread of horse-riding and 
horse-drawn-vehicle technology from its origins 
in Europe 6,000 years ago. The Xinjiang mummies 
may help confirm these speculations.
 
Intriguingly, evidence of a long-extinct language 
belonging to the Indo-European family does exist 
in central Asia. This language, known as Tocharian, 
is recorded in manuscripts from the eighth century 
A.D., and solid evidence for its existence can be 
found as far back as the third century. Tocharian 
inscriptions from this period are also found painted 
in caves in the foothills of the mountain west of 
Urumqi, along with paintings of swash-buckling 
knights wielding long swords. The knights are 
depicted with full red beards and European faces. 
Could the Xinjiang people have been their ancestors, 
speaking an early version of Tocharian? "My guess is 
that they would have been speaking some form of 
Indo-European," comments Don Ringe, a historical 
linguist at the University of Pennsylvania, "but whether 
it was an early form of Tocharian or some other branch 
of the family, such as Indo-Iranian, we may never 
know for sure."
 
Perhaps a highly distinctive language would help 
explain why the Xinjiang people's distinctive appearance 
and culture persisted over so many centuries. Eventually 
they might well have assimilated with the local population
 - the major ethnic group in the area today, the 
Uygur, includes people with unusually fair hair and 
complexions. That possibility will soon be investigated 
when Mair, Francalacci, and their Chinese colleagues 
compare DNA from ancient mummy tissue with blood and 
hair samples from local people. Besides the riddle 
of their identity, there is also the question of  
what these fair-haired people were doing in a remote 
desert oasis. Probably never wealthy enough to own 
chariots, they nevertheless had wagons and
well-tailored clothes. Were they mere goat and 
sheep farmers? Or did they profit from or even 
control prehistoric trade along the route that  
later became the Silk Road? If so, they probably 
helped spread the first wheels and certain 
metalworking skills into China.
 
"Ultimately I think our project may end up having 
tremendous implications for the origins of Chinese 
civilization," Mair reflects. "For all their incredible 
inventiveness, the ancient Chinese weren't cut off 
>from  the rest of the world, and influences didn't just 
flow one way, from China westward.'
 
Unfortunately, economics dictates that answers will 
be slow in coming. The Chinese have little money to spare 
for this work, and Wang and his team continue to 
operate on a shoestring. Currently most of the 
corpses and artifacts are stored in a damp, 
crowded basement room at the Institute of
Archeology in Urumqi, in conditions that 
threaten their continued preservation. If 
Mair's plans for a museum can be financed 
with Western help, perhaps the mummies can be 
moved. Then, finally, they'll receive the study 
and attention that will ultimately unlock 
their secrets.
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Reports from Our Correspondents:
Racial News from Around the World
by Kevin Alfred Strom 

In this article we will be looking at news items, both profound and
absurd, sent in by ADV listeners around the world, which have been
overlooked or underreported by the controlled media. In a previous
article I detailed a few of the many so-called "hate crimes" that
actually turn out to be hoaxes perpetrated by the so-called oppressed
groups themselves. Just after I filed that article another item was
sent to me which continues the long list of such hoaxes. It's from the
Pensacola News-Journal, June 1, 1996: 

MIAMI -- A Jewish father and son team were convicted of staging hate
crimes by defacing a Jewish school's buses to drum up repair work. 
Al and Steven Rubin arranged for two teenagers to vandalize school
buses and spray-paint anti-Semitic slogans and swastikas around Hillel
Community Day School last year. 

. . . Steven Rubin, the school's transportation director, directed
repair business to his father, who owned Priority Car Care. The son
also was accused of faking work for his father, including $79 oil
changes billed at $4,000. 

David Michael Brown, a mechanic who once worked for Al Rubin,
testified he acted as the middleman, paying the vandals $50. 

. . . Steven Rubin was found guilty of nine counts of theft, three
counts of burglary, two counts of criminal mischief, and burglary
conspiracy. Al Rubin was convicted of nine counts of theft. 

In this case, fellow Jews were the monetary victims of this
"hate-crime" hoax but had the real perpetrators never been caught, who
would have been blamed for these incidents? How many such "racist"
incidents, which make their way into the frightening "hate crime"
statistics that the Jewish lobby now requires our police agencies to
compile, are in reality as-yet-unexposed hoaxes? 
* * * 
The San Jose Mercury News reports that two Baltimore Sun reporters
paid $1,000 to slave owners in Sudan for two Sudanese brothers who had
been abducted from their home six years ago and since then had worked
as slaves in the fields. The reporters, after purchasing the pair,
granted them their freedom. 
This recent item demonstrates the absurdity of the controlled media's
anti-White guilt-mongering on the subject of slavery. The enslavement
of one tribe of non-Whites by another tribe of non-Whites, or by their
own tribesmen, is still taking place on the continent of Africa and
elsewhere in the non-White world. 

Slavery in Sudan is notorious, and despite government denials, and
more than one official banning, it still flourishes. It is also
endemic in Mauritania, likewise on a massive, institutionalized scale.
In these cases it is usually Islamic Berbers or Moors who hold Blacks
in captivity, though some Blacks participate in the marketing of their
own kinsmen. Blacks hold other Blacks as slaves in Niger, Nigeria,
Senegal, Sierra Leone, Ethiopia, and Rwanda according to Michael
Harris of Anti-Slavery International. 

Jews, along with European Whites, were prominent in the historic
Atlantic slave trade. That trade lasted for about three hundred years,
until it was abolished by White Europeans. But Blacks had been
capturing and enslaving neighboring tribes since time immemorial, and
had been supplying Arab slavers with their fellow Blacks for 1,000
years before the Europeans arrived -- and they are still doing it.
Scholars estimate that over 14 million Blacks were transported to the
slave bazaars of Arabia, a greater number than were shipped to North
America. At those slave bazaars, by the way, Blacks were offered up
for sale on the same blocks where White slaves were being sold. In
fact some of the slave-trading Black kingdoms, notably the Ashanti,
enslaved all foreigners they could get their hands on and traded them
for Arab gold and trinkets. These captives sometimes even included
Europeans shipwrecked off western Africa. 

Long before the arrival of the White man, Amerindians owned slaves.
"Slave-catchers" were sent out after battles to round up the enemy
wounded for a lifetime of slavery. In some tribes the slaves accounted
for 15% of the population. Sometimes Indian "potlatch" ceremonies
included the killing of large numbers of slaves just to show off the
wealth of the slave owner. 

In Thailand, Sri Lanka, the Philippines, and other parts of the Third
World, it is well known that parents sell their children, girls and
boys, into slavery to sex club operators who use their young bodies to
attract the shekels, yen, and dollars of "sex tourists," foreign and
domestic, with various types of perversion. Some of these children are
as young as six years old. Many are sent to other countries, and slave
merchants report that they can get five or six times the price for a
child under sixteen as for an adult slave. This differential reflects
the high demand for young sex slaves to satisfy the unnatural urges of
perverts. 

Anti-Slavery International estimates that 55 million children between
the ages of 4 and 14 are enslaved in India. Some work in brothels
where they may endure dozens of sexual violations daily. Some work 18
hour per day, seven day per week in textile, fireworks, or other
manufacturing sweatshops. These child slaves are often burned, branded
with red-hot irons, starved, whipped, chained, raped, and kept locked
in cupboards for days. 

In the Oaxaca Mountains of Mexico, women often sell their children and
ask few questions about what will become of them. The going rate is
>from  under $10,000 to about $20,000, depending on the child's
complexion and whether the purchaser is a Mexican or a rich Westerner.
The highest prices are fetched by children whose fathers are White men
and who inherit their fathers' coloration. These are used to supply
the huge adoption market in Europe and America, where abortion has
literally thrown a generation of White children into the trash,
forcing would-be adoptive parents to look elsewhere. A White man
traveling in rural Mexico can often have his choice of young Indians
or mestizas to sleep with -- so anxious are they to give birth to a
child of "high value." The "adoptees" are the lucky ones. Not so lucky
are those sold into lifelong slavery to rich Mexicans, who may treat
them as they will. Unluckier still are those sold to pedophiles and
pimps. 

In this short time I have just barely sketched the outlines of slavery
as it existed and still exists, and I haven't even mentioned the
historic enslavement of Whites or the existence of White slavery in
modern Israel, which I wrote about several months ago in this
newsletter. Suffice it to say: Slavery has been a factor in virtually
all human societies since the dawn of history. It has not been a
phenomenon peculiar to White societies, and in a sense quite the
opposite is true. It was White people who first abolished the
institution of slavery, since many rightly came to view it not only as
pernicious to the well-being of the slave, but also degrading to the
master, inimical to the interests of the White laborer, and
destructive of the racial integrity of the nation. It was White people
who first introduced the concepts of self-government and individual
freedom and responsibility into the world. 

The Black writer Orlando Patterson just about said it all on this
subject when he stated: "There was no word for `freedom' in most
non-Western languages before contact with Western peoples." 

* * * 
Let's review a few news items that have crossed the wires recently: In
Baltimore, Maryland, an outfit called Healthy Start Men's Services,
which undoubtedly is funded by your tax money and mine, purports to
have as its purpose teaching inner city Black men how to be good
fathers. According to a report in the San Jose Mercury News, they
describe as a "typical case" a 44-year-old Baltimore man who, during
those periods when he was not incarcerated, fathered eight children by
five different women and who candidly admits he never took fatherhood
seriously. If this is their typical case, I would shudder to think
about the bad ones. 
* * * 
LAGOS, NIGERIA -- Newspapers report that over sixty people became sick
after drinking Sun Light dishwashing detergent. The labels were
clearly marked "detergent" but did show a picture of a lemon and the
words "real lemon juice." 
Instances similar to this also were reported, several years ago, in
large, heavily Black metropolitan areas in the United States when
detergent samples were delivered via the mails. 

* * * 
And, on a much more serious note: 
LIBERIA -- Sensi Momoh is a Liberian living in a village to the
northwest of the capital, Monrovia. A civil war has been raging in
Liberia, and a few weeks ago soldiers from one of the factions arrived
in the village. Did they arrive to establish control and enlist the
support of the villagers. No. Garnering support was the farthest thing
>from  their minds. In fact, when they arrived -- unopposed -- in town
the first things they did were fire their guns at random and ransack
the huts. But that was far, very far, from the worst of it. Listen to
Sensi Momoh's own words: 

They killed my brother. They opened up his body and took the heart
out. They put it in a big pan and cooked it in palm butter. Then they
ate it. 
Was Sensi Momoh's brother a member of an opposing faction in the civil
war? No. The driving force behind this savagery is not politics, and
this was not an isolated case. The driving force is an ancient African
belief system that posits that by eating certain human body parts the
cannibal may gain in power and strength. 
Many of the refugees from the war, now in camps outside Monrovia and
accessible to the few Western journalists still remaining, described
similar acts of cannibalism, which are believed to confer supernatural
powers upon the bloody feasters. A woman related how she had seen
young soldiers of Alhaji GV Kromah's "United Liberation Movement" cut
out the heart and testicles of five young boys and eat them. While
this was taking place Kromah himself sat as a member of the Council of
State in Monrovia, put there by Western peacemakers trying to reform
Liberia's bloody ways. 

Liberia may be an extreme example, but parallels in Rwanda, Kenya,
Rhodesia, Angola, Katanga, and pre-colonial Africa abound. Absolute
autocracy is the only way that African societies have been able to
maintain a measure of order and peace. The slightest vacuum of
authority results in chaos. 

It is also interesting to note that across Central Africa the eating
of ape meat is commonplace. The Africans indulging in this practice
believe that consuming the ape will endow them with the strength and
cunning of the beast. This is clearly a variant on the beliefs of the
cannibals, and may be a relict of cannibalistic practices which have
been at least partially suppressed. It is hard to imagine that the
similarity to cannibalism is lost on the participants. 

The vice president of the Wildlife Conservation Society, John
Robinson, is worried that the practice of killing and eating apes is
so prevalent that extinction is a real possibility. He stated, "Except
in locales where the hunting is light, the exploitation of most
species is not sustainable." 

The World Society for the Protection of Animals launched a large ad
campaign beginning in 1990 to protect these animals and discourage the
killing and eating of them at ritual feasts. The result was no change
in the African's beliefs or eating habits, but there were charges of
"cultural insensitivity" from the more dedicated equalitarians. 

Foolish indeed are those who think that Western money or "ideals" will
have any lasting effect on the African manner of political succession
or spiritual beliefs. And even more foolish are those who think that
we can become one genetically with the African without becoming like
him intellectually, morally, spiritually, and politically as well. 

* * * 
WASHINGTON, DC -- The most recent crime statistics, as you may have
heard trumpeted in the media, indicate small decreases in violent
crime over the last few years. Despite this, of course, crime is
tremendously greater today than it was before the Third World invasion
of America and the so-called "civil rights" revolution. And I have a
healthy skepticism about these reports of decreasing crime, and I'll
tell you why after we review some of the statistics: Overall crime has
diminished slightly, but some crime levels have exploded. Currently
there is one violent crime every 17 seconds; one property crime every
3 seconds; one murder every 23 minutes; one forcible rape every 5
minutes; one robbery every 51 seconds; one aggravated assault every 28
seconds; one burglary every 12 seconds; one larceny every 4 seconds;
and one motor vehicle theft every 20 seconds. 
In the next thirty minutes six more women will be raped. 

According to the Department of Justice: In 1960 there were 160 violent
crimes for every 100,000 Americans. 

In 1994 there were 715 violent crimes for every 100,000 Americans. 

They also say that since 1990 violent and property crime have declined
by respectively by 2.2 and 8.5 percent. 

Now those are fascinating figures; but I think that crime in non-White
areas is vastly understated in the statistics for several reasons. 

In some of these areas the crime situation is so bad, crimes are so
omnipresent and so routine, that only a fraction are reported.
Secondly, of those reported some are "lost in the shuffle" of
paperwork because of an inefficient and/or vastly understaffed and
overworked police force who must make the time to deal with "priority
situations" and let the rest slide. Even many of the reported and
recorded crimes are not really investigated, and never show up in
arrest or conviction statistics. Remember that these conditions exist
mainly in heavily non-White areas, so the huge difference between
Whites and non-Whites in their propensity for crime is probably
considerably understated. 

I worked for many years in the occupied Washington, DC, area. My work
took me often into the areas where the tour buses (and sometimes even
the U.S. Mail) won't go. I have personal knowledge of what such urban
hells are like. 

* * * 
LOS ANGELES, CALIFORIA -- Those of you who are skeptical of that New
Age therapy, "Past Life Regression," will probably not be surprised at
the innovation of psychiatrist Adrian Finkelstein, which he calls
"Future Life Progression." No slouch, Finkelstein does not merely
claim to see your future incarnations but claims he can "reconstruct"
your future lives so as to ensure that you'll come back as someone
rich and famous. Such a service would undoubtedly be worth millions of
dollars, but so full of altruism is Dr. Finkelstein that he only
charges the suckers, uh, . . . I mean clients, two hundred dollars per
hour. 
* * * 
The Israeli newspaper Haaretz published an article by Jewish columnist
Ari Shavit in which Jewish control of the United States was frankly
admitted. The really strange thing is that this column was reprinted
on May 27 by the New York Times, and except for courageous commentator
Joseph Sobran Americans are averting their eyes from the forbidden and
embarrassing truth. 
Shavit is not pleased by the cold-blooded killing committed by his
fellow Israelis in Lebanon. He states in the article: 

We killed them out of a certain naive hubris. Believing with absolute
certitude that now, with the White House, the Senate, and much of the
American media in our hands, the lives of others do not count as much
as our own. . . . 
It is just as I wrote several months ago -- some Jews now believe that
they can get away with anything. Non-Jewish lives count for nothing.
Do whatever you want, and our spin doctors in the media will keep the
American cattle from lowing. Kill at will, and the President and his
appointees and the Congress will smile and hand you even more billions
of the U.S. taxpayers' money. Remember, "the White House, the Senate,
and much of the American media are in our hands." 
Now if I stated such a thing, or if any White American stated that the
government and the media in this country were "in Jewish hands," we'd
be talking "hate crimes" and "bigotry" and that most terrible crime of
all, "anti-Semitism." Let us thank Ari Shavit for clearing the air and
speaking the truth, and forever making it impossible to deny exactly
who is responsible for America's decline to the status of an occupied
nation. 


I would like to leave you with the words of the great aviator and patriot
Charles Lindbergh: "It is our turn to guard our heritage from Mongol and
Persian and Moor, before we become engulfed in a limitless foreign sea....
All foreign races stir restlessly. It is time to turn from our quarrels and
build our White ramparts again."

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                           Gas Chamber Fraud

Major French magazine acknowledges Auschwitz gas chamber fraud

One of France's most influential and reputable magazines, L'Express,
now acknowledges that "everything is false" about the Auschwitz "gas
chamber" that for decades has been shown to tens of thousands of
tourists yearly.

"Auschwitz: The Memory of Evil," a lengthy article by journalist and
historian Eric Conan, a dedicated anti-revisionist, appears in the
January 19-25, 1995, issue, pages 54-73 (and in the Jan. 26
international edition). L'Express is a liberal large-circulation
weekly news magazine, similar in format to Time or Newsweek.

L'Express also reports that, after a five-year battle among the
"experts," Polish president Lech Walesa has decided that the new,
revised number of dead to be inscribed on the Birkenau monument will
be 1,500,000. (For years the monument proclaimed 4,000,000 Auschwitz
deaths.)

Generally speaking, writes Conan, there have been many obvious
falsifications in the Auschwitz and Birkenau camp sites. Stefan
Wilkanowicz, vice-president of the International Committee of the
Polish government's Auschwitz State Museum (and director of an
influential Polish Catholic periodical), says:

The biggest blunders have been rectified but the principal discussions
are never-ending and far from being settled. I can even say that
essential debates, distressing, sometimes unexpected, are only
beginning.

About the famous "gas chamber" in the Auschwitz I camp, Conan writes:

In 1948, when the Museum was created, Crematory I was reconstructed in
a supposed original state. Everything in it is false [Tout y est
faux]: the dimensions of the gas chamber, the locations of the doors,
the openings for pouring in Zyklon B, the ovens (rebuilt according to
the recollections of some survivors), the height of the chimney. At
the end of the 70s, Robert Faurisson exploited those falsifications
all the better because at that time the Museum officials balked at
admitting them. An American revisionist [David Cole] has just shot a
video in the gas chamber (still presented as authentic): one may see
him questioning the visitors with his "revelations" [Emphasis added.]

In spite of this, Conan goes on to report, there are no plans to alter
anything there. With regard to the famous "gas chamber," a staff
member of the Museum directors' office, Krystyna Oleksy, says: "For
the time being we are going to leave it in the present state, and not
give any specifics to the visitors. It is too complicated. We'll see
later on."

Victory for Revisionism

This feature article in a leading French magazine is a great victory
for Holocaust revisionism. On a key point, L'Express now acknowledges,
the revisionists have been right all along.

In fact, the magazine concedes a point that revisionists have been
legally penalized for making. Dr. Robert Faurisson, Europe's foremost
revisionist scholar, was heavily fined after repeating it on numerous
occasions during his "thought crime" trials in France. (Will the
French government now prosecute L'Express magazine and journalist
Conan for their revisionist Holocaust views?)

In May 1992 a German court fined David Irving 10,000 marks (about
$6,000) for publicly saying what L'Express now openly admits. (See:
"Irving Fined $6,000 in German 'Gas Chamber' Trial," IHR Newsletter,
July-Aug. 1992, pp. 3-4.)

The court punished the British historian because he had told a Munich
meeting in April 1990 that the structure in Auschwitz that has been
portrayed for decades to tourists as an extermination gas chamber is a
phony reconstruction ("Attrappe"), just like the one at Dachau.

Irving was found guilty of thus "disparaging the memory of the dead,"
a crime in Germany that effectively applies only to Jewish victims. In
the case the Judge refused to consider any of the evidence presented
by Irving's attorneys, including a plea to permit Dr. Franciszek
Piper, Senior Curator and archives director of the Auschwitz State
Musueum, to testify in the case.

Dr. Faurisson comments on Conan's article:

Clearly, the Auschwitz propagandists are at a loss. Oleksy's statement
is an important vindication of the revisionist position. Every visitor
of the Auschwitz "gas chamber" should confront the guides (or, if
possible, Museum officials) with these sentences by Oleksy.

During a September 1992 interview with American revisionist David
Cole, Auschwitz Museum Curator Piper said, "so now this gas chamber
[at Auschwitz I] is very similar to this one which existed in
1941-1942." ;

As Conan knows, already in 1976 I demonstrated the falsehood of this
entire story by questioning Museum official Jan Machalek, and by
finding in the Auschwitz Museum files original plans clearly showing
that, in fact, the alleged "gas chamber " was, between October 7,
1941, and August 31, 1943, a room with a single entrance where dead
bodies awaiting cremation were stored.

If Museum officials now wish to rebuild the room as it was during the
war, they will have to fill in the south-east doorway. After doing so,
though, they would no longer be able to explain how the alleged
victims entered the "gas chamber " for gassing. I do not think the
officials would dare contend that the victims entered by way of the
door of the ovens room.

For details on these points, see what I published in Serge Thion's
1980 book Vérité historique ou vérité politique? La question des
chambres à gaz, pp. 316-317. I have also repeatedly mentioned the
story of that "reconstructed " gas chamber in The Journal of
Historical Review (see, for instance, Winter 1981 issue, p. 335), as
well as during the 1985 and 1988 Zündel trials in Toronto (see, for
instance, 1985 Trial, Transcript, pp. 2364-2366). Even as early as
1968, Olga Wormser-Migot wrote in her book Le Système
concentrationnaire nazi (p. 157) that the Auschwitz I camp was
"without a gas chamber." In 1985, Raul Hilberg stated under oath
during the first Zündel trial in Toronto (Transcript, p. 774), and
Pierre Vidal-Naquet wrote in L'Allemagne nazie et le génocide juif
(pp. 510, 516, n. 94), what Franciszek Piper said to Cole in 1992.
Jean-Claude Pressac told the same story in his 1989 book, Auschwitz:
Technique and Operation of the Gas Chambers (pp. 108, 123, 133).

In his L'Express article, Conan mentions Jean-Claude Pressac's 1993
book, Les Crématoires d'Auschwitz. Among the fantastic number of
"dossiers" and articles recently published in French newspapers and
magazines in connection with the 50th anniversary of the camp's
liberation, this article may perhaps be the only one to mention that
book. Pressac's ambivalence has become an embarrassment for the
"exterminationists." For instance, his estimate in Les Crématoires
d'Auschwitz (1993) of total Auschwitz deaths was 775,000 (rounded up
to 800,000), and in the 1994 German edition he further reduced this to
between 630,000 and 710,000 (of whom, he asserts, 470,000 to 550,000
were "gassed" Jews).


Institute For Historical Review,
Post Office Box 2739, Newport Beach, California 92659


Western Imperative Network (WIN)
http://www.usaor.net/users/ipm

America's Forgotten White Slaves
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PUBLIC STATEMENT OF RONALD LAMBERT

I regret to observe that the National Alliance has resumed
its practice of making forged posts under my name and
e-mail address, as part of their deranged vendetta against
Harold Covington of the National Socialist White People's
Party. I am unable to complain about this because Mr.
"Hammer" (Vincent Breeding of Tampa, Florida) uses
a pornography server called dreamon.com located in
Singapore.

However, please be advised that because of this practice,
I no longer post to Usenet except anonymously, and that
any and all posts appearing under the e-mail address of 
lambert@morgan.net, other than this one of course, are
forgeries on the part of the National Alliance. 

Why they have picked me to do this to I don't know, unless it
is simply their general, common practice of harassing former
members. I was involved with the NA for a brief period several 
months ago, but left when I began to see signs that 
Covington might, in fact, be correct and the group might 
be a government front of some kind. I repeatedly questioned
the wisdom of an alleged Aryan racial group devoting seemingly
the bulk of its resources towards defaming and abusing one
single man, and as a result I seem to have been placed on the
NA's "enemies list".

Again, please disregard all present and future posts which
appear to come from me. They do not, they are forged by
"John Hammer". I NO LONGER POST TO USENET UNDER
MY OWN NAME.

Ronald L. Lambert





From lambert@morgan.net Wed Jan 21 12:12:55 EST 1998
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On 1/18/98 8:06AM, in message <69t289$9mv$1@news.trends.ca>, Nizkor Project 
 wrote:

> In article ,
>   wrote:
> 
> > The Committe for Open Discussion of the Holocaust Story (CODOH)
> >will offer $50,000.00 to the one individual instrumental in
> >arranging a 90-minute presentation on National network television,
> >IN PRIME TIME, of the "Video of the Century," our documentary on
> >Auscwhitz:
> >
> >___ DAVID COLE INTERVIEWS DR. FRANCISZEK PIPER ____
> 
> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/c/cole.david/images/ contains Mr.
> Cole's sworn disclaimer with respect not only to this movie, which he
> is quite sorry to have made, but also Holocaust "revisionism" in
> general.
> 
> I find it interesting that CODOH, a group which lacks the will to
> debate anything, let alone history, continues to flog this sorry
> excuse for a videotape before the world. Mr. Cole refers to his
> videotapes as "videotaped garbage filled with self-hatred and
> pseudo-intellectual nonsense."
> 
> How fitting that "lambert" would promote it.
> 

 Dear Nizkor,

 Mr. "Lambert"? Would you like me to find another psuedonym too?! Seriously,
I will contact David Cole and will respond. I do not know if David
considers his videos "self-hate" but I do find the tape(s) of interest.

 I've been known to denounce much of the so-called "movement" too,
however, I still fight. I often feel that I could be more effective
on my own rather than allying myself with the  typical hate-mongering spewed  
by others. Perhaps David Cole has lapses too?

 I shall return!
*****
America's Forgotten White Slaves
http://www.hoffman-info.com



From lambert@morgan.net Wed Jan 21 12:12:56 EST 1998
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Race War in America--An Information Depository from:
http://webusers.anet-stl.com/~civil/index.html Civil Rights Review

==========================================================

What Is A Race War?

A Race War is a conflict where one or more Races Of Man get into a violent war
because of their differences whether these differences are real, partially 
real, or
fictional. In the case that a Race War does occur in the United States, the 
races
that will be probably engage in a war would be Asian, White, Hispanic, and 
Black.

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10 Reasons Why A Race War Will Likely Occur

1. HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF - Ethnically diverse groups have never gotten along.
Examples such as Rwanda, Bosnia, and Sri Lanka give us
tales of how brutal and how quite easily it is for two groups that "seemed to 
get
along well" can be at each others throat in an instant.



2. NATIONWIDE RACIAL SPLITS OCCUR OFTEN - The OJ Trial, Affirmative Action, 
whether
or not "Black English" (Ebonics) should be
taught, "English Only" laws, etc. help create hostility towards racial and 
cultural
differences.



3. HATE GROUPS IN THIS COUNTRY ARE LOOKING FOR A RACE WAR AND SEE IT AS THEIR 
DUTY TO
START ONE - This is self explanatory. 


4. WHITE FLIGHT STILL OCCURS - White Flight is the movement of Whites in 
response to
racial pressures. An example of White Flight in the 1960 s was from the cities
because of forced bussing programs with Blacks. Today White Flight occurs from 
border
states (with Mexico) into the Midwest and Northern states. This is in response 
to
illegal immigration and legal immigration by Hispanics. 


5. BLACKS BELIEVE THE GOVERNMENT CREATED AIDS AND THE CRACK PROBLEM - Blacks 
feel
that the government created AIDS
to kill them off and the CIA sold crack in the inner cities to help finance 
wars in
Central America. It is estimated that by the year 2005, 10% of
Blacks will be HIV positive imagine the paranoia that this will cause! 


6. MILITARY CAN EASILY BE FRAGMENTED - Although the military gets high scores 
for be
integrated, in the starting of a Race War the
military will most likely fragment into their racial groups like the former 
Yugoslav
Army fragmented into their ethnic groups. Currently the nuclear,
chemical, and biological agents of the US military are well within the hands of
Whites. 


7. MULTICULTURALISM SEPARATES US - The idea behind multiculturalism is that all
cultures/races can live together in harmony. But in
reality it points out our differences to everybody and differences are clearly 
what
is needed for a Race War. 


8. RACISM IS ALIVE AND WELL IN AMERICA - Racism is not between Whites and Blacks
anymore, it is now between Whites, Blacks, Asians, and Hispanics. The more the
merrier! 


9. 40% OF HISPANICS DROP OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL - Hispanics are going to be the 
largest
non-White population in the US in the next 10 years. But with a 40% drop out 
rate,
their economic situation is going to be bleak. Out of the 40% of Hispanics that 
drop
out of High School, 65% of them are Hispanic males. (See White Flight above.) 


10. BLACKS ARE DESPERATE AND WILL FIGHT IF PROVOKED - In the event of a massive
terrorist attack against Blacks was to occur, what actually do Blacks have to 
lose by
fighting? Not much. 

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3 Reasons Why A Race War Will Not Occur


1. MILITARY CAN STOP IT - In the event of the starting of a Race War, the US 
military
can step in and quell any situation that might occur.



2. MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WILL REFUSE TO FIGHT - If given the chance many people 
will not
fight in a Race War.



3. MUTUALLY ASSURED DESTRUCTION - A major riot like the one that occurred in LA
during 1992 did not go into the White neighborhoods
because Whites were armed and Blacks and Hispanics knew it. Likewise it would be
suicidal for Whites to start shooting at Blacks because Blacks
are armed also. 

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Race War FAQ


Race War FAQ Version 1.0 (12/25/96 @ 8:02pm PST) 

(c) 1996 Jeff Yale 

Purpose Of This FAQ

The purpose of this FAQ is to show a reality occurring in America. We want to 
believe
that something like this can only happen in backward Third
World countries like India or Sri Lanka, but remember it happens in Northern 
Ireland
almost daily and to a very large extent in Bosnia. 

The main purpose of this FAQ is to show and warn people about the single most
important event that is probably going to happen in America a
massive Civil War with race a major theme. 

If you have a question or comment about this FAQ please email the me at
rcentral@ix.netcom.com. 

What Is A Race War?

A Race War is a war between members of difference races. 

What Is An Ethnic War?

An Ethic War is a war usually between members of the same race, but the 
differences
between these groups like culture, religion, traditions, etc. is
what sets these groups to fight one another. An example of an Ethnic War is 
Bosnia
and Rwanda. 

How Can A Race War Start?

A Race War can start because of the perception of a mistrial of justice, 
violence,
terrorism, assassination, gang violence, retaliation, etc. 

A Race War can start through various means but rarely does a war just "break 
out".
There has to be precursors to it. 

For example, after the first Rodney King Trial, the LA riots erupted in 1992. 
Blacks
feeling that they have been persecuted for along period of time
so when the police were found not guilty -- all hell broke loose. Whites now are
probably feeling that way when OJ Simpson was found not guilty
based on evidence which seemed "beyond a responsible doubt" to make him guilty. 
And
when the Whites looked at the racial make up of the jury,
many Whites probably felt that they were being persecuted. 

Who Would Start A Race War And Why?

Any organization or person who feels like having a Race War as something that is
going to benefit their race is someone that is likely to start a
Race War, assuming that a Race War can be "started" rather than something that 
just
"occurs" through built up tensions. These groups could help
build tensions that lead to this problems although. 

Isn't The US Getting Better In Race Relations?

Although we don't have school segregation and other "advancements" have been 
made to
make it so that non-Whites are integrated into a White
America, people are seeing that our racial problems in this country are getting
worse. 

Problems due to justice, churchs burning (both White and Black churches), 
organized
hate groups, Nation of Islam, and so on point towards more
racial strife. 

Where Would A Race War Start?

There is a high probability that if a Race War was to occur, it probably would 
start
in either Southern California, Florida, or New York. These areas
tend to have the most "problems" when it comes to diversity (because they are 
the
most diverse areas). In Southern California in 1992 there was
the LA Riot which was very massive, in 1996 there were two much smaller riots 
in St.
Petersberg, Florida. 

What Are "Hate Groups" And What Role Do They Play In A Race War?

"Hate groups" are groups of people that are organized who feel that other races,
besides their own, are inferior. These groups of people develop
web pages, pass out propaganda, and encourage racial/cultural conflicts. These 
"hate
groups" could likewise encourage violence against other
people or commit acts of terrorism which could be strategically done to bring 
about a
Race War. 

What Role Does The Military Play In A Race War?

In the event of a racial conflict here in the US, the military could take a 
role in
helping prevent it, stopping it, or encouraging it. 

In then event that we have a Bosnia situation here in the US where the military
splits into ethnic/racial groups and each group tries to grab weapons,
then the military will split and weapons will go to the racial group which gets 
it
first. 

What Are Some Examples Of Countries That Have Had Diversity Problems?

Sri Lanka, Bosnia, Rwanda, Northern Ireland, India, German (Nazi), the United 
States,
Israel, and the Middle East. 

What Would A Race War Be Like?

It would be like most wars: little food, unsure future, recruitment to fight the
enemy, death, destruction, etc. You kill or be killed. 

What If I Refuse To Fight In A Race War?

Regardless of what race you are, if you refuse to fight, you most likely will be
branded a Race Traitor and jailed or be killed. Similar incidents
occured in the Bosnian conflict with regards to ethnic group. 

It Is Almost The Year 2000. Why Are We Having Problems Like This?

It really doesn't matter what year it is, problems of diversity can be seen
throughout history. Wars and conflicts don't end on the year 2000. It is
merely a date. 

How Can A Race War Be Prevented?

According to Carl T. Rowan (a Black Journalist), the author of _The Coming Race 
War
In America, on Chapter 13 'How To Prevent "Armageddon"' (p. 282), he notes, "I 
must
say honestly that I doubt there is any way to prevent bloody racial strife in
America. So many hate groups are at large that a few of them are bound to try 
to make
good on their threats to make parts of America, or all of it, the exclusive 
home of
superior Aryan whites. Too much rage has built up in the minds of young blacks 
who
are trapped in the corridors of resentment and hopelessness for
me to assume that they will not strike out with firepower, especially if 
provoked." 

The author of this FAQ has the same feelings. Little can be done to prevent 
such a
conflict. 

What Are The Races That Will Be Involved In A Race War?

White, Asian, Black, and Hispanics. 

If The US Gets Into A Full Scale Race War, What Are The International 
Implications?

Economic collapse on a World Wide scale would most likely occur if the US got 
into a
full scale Race War. 

Suppose The US Gets Into A Massive Race War, Would Mexico Help Supply Weapons To
Hispanics Fighting In The US? Would Europe Give Supplies To Whites In The US?

Maybe Mexico would send supplies to Hispanics fighting in the US. It is not 
likely
that Asian countries or European countries would get involved in
this conflict. And if they do, we might find ourselves in WW III. 

If A Race War Is Going To Occur, How Does One Prepare For One?

The answer to this question is beyond the scope of this FAQ. We are sure there 
are
web pages somewhere that deal with being prepared for any
war, regardless if it is Race War. 

What Happens To People In Inter-Racial Marriages?

That certainly would be a problem for them for those couples not to mention the
children of the inter-racial marriages. Most likely people will have
to conceal this marriage or they would have to separate. 

What Happens To Children Born In Inter-Racial Marriages?

This would be a horrible situation to be in. They will probably not be able to
receive the protection of any warring group. 

What Is "White Flight"?

"White Flight" is the movement of Whites away from border states with Mexico to 
the
Midwest and Northern states. This is in response to illegal
and legal Hispanic immigration. 

What Is Multiculturalism?

Multiculturalism is the teaching of the idea that all cultures are "equal". It 
also
points out that a "melting pot" approach isn't beneficial to a diverse
society because it is to "White" of an idea. Rather multiculturalists maintain 
that
the US society represents a "Cultural Salad" not a melting pot
with each of us representing a different taste and texture of America. 

How Does Multiculturalism Aid To A Race War?

Multiculturalism first maintains that diversity is strength. This has never 
been the
case. Diverse societies have always broken apart and the United
States probably will have the same problem. As Lincoln once said, "....if 
destruction
be our lot, we ourselves must the authors and the finishers
because it cannot come from abroad it must spring from amongst us." 

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From lambert@morgan.net Wed Jan 21 12:12:56 EST 1998
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On 1/17/98 11:08AM, in message <34c1e543.5340765@news.supernews.com>, Rev. 
Billy  wrote:

> ipm@usaor.net (Ian McKinney) wrote:
> >What I propose is that the government simply stop all integration 
> >programs. Since Whites and Blacks tend to congregate amongst 
> >themselves, I'm not talking about forcing anybody to move anywhere. 
> 
> Not yet ! Didn't your type say that in the '30s ??? Oh, ok, that
> was Jews....  but didn't you say that about Jews a few weeks ago
> too ...?
> 

The Western Nation-states favored the same practices of Germany 
whether it was eugenics, who was behind bolshevism, and anti-homosexual.


> >I've explained this over and over, but you simply refuse to 
> >acknowledge it. Your like a robot who's been programmed a certain way 
> >and can only respond in whys limited by your programming.
> >Economics and religion have been the largest source of wars in 
> >history. That includes most wars in Europe. Even WW2 was economically 
> >motivated to a lerge degree.
> 
> HEY there Herr Ian, spreading your Nazi filth in this group too
> IC...
> 

What Ian said was true. Did not the National Socialists pattern
much of their thinking after Prussia and Bismark? Yes, to a large
extent. I believe the Franco-Prussian War was fought over iron
ore. After the Balfour Declaration and the so-called "program"
of American President Woodrow Wilson, German territory was 
carved up and given to it's neighbors.


> Economics & religion caused the wars..??  How about "racial"
> superiority.. wasn't what your hero Adolph's line...
> 

WW II was not fought over "racial superiority." Do not forget
that the Japs believed themselves to be the "Yakamoto (sp?)
Master Race" too. England's Empire boasted the earliest National
Socialist theorizer in her own Houston Stewart Chamberlain. The
"living space" theories came from Sweden I believe.

Read the Bible sometime. Yahweh has a master race too. Have
you ever read about creating a blue-eyed Jewish Master Race
in Jewish author Michael Higgins "The Jewish Utopia?" It seems
the Jewish people were like "Nazis" too.


> It's not that anyone "refuse to  acknowledge it", it's just that
> we're tired of the same old crap from the people who want to find
> a "final solution"...
> 

 Tell that to our Government. A recent Wall Street Report stated
that 70% of American's want immigration reduced or eliminated. Yet,
"our" government ships more immigrants every year.


> Oh wait, your not a racist, your a "racialist"...  
> 
> For anyone that starts to fall for Ian's garbage, visit his page
> (http://www.usaor.net/users/ipm/), just don't look at the
> superficial stuff, check the links, and see the "White
> Supremacist Movement" for what it is, the damned Nazis trying to
> sneak in again.
> 

 "Sneak in again?" Who said Ian was a Nazi in the first place? If
you are referring to the "anti-semitic" material then I suggest
a little course in history because Europeans are notorious for
despising their enemies. One takes a mere 12 years of history and
tries to explain Nationalism in this "Nazi" context is bound to
fail. Nation-States arose long ago.

 Aren't we all tired of Homosexuals too? Do we not think that
a Homosexual teacher will be a child molestor, and another Jeffery
Dahmer? Why not! The Jeffery Dahmer's are using the sodomy front
to do just this! Of course, I'm kiddin'! The point is this:

 Separatism and Nationalism is growing around the world. To condemn
Nationalism and self-determination of peoples is like saying the
real reason Druids want power is because they want to KILL more
children and newborn babies via ritual sacrifice in Wicker baskets.

 This is the real reason! History repeats itself! You DAMN PAGANS
will kill!
****

Nationalist Party
http://www.nationalist.org




> >What I propose is that the government simply stop all integration 
> 
> What I propose is laws, as Germany and other countries have,
> where people like Ian & his other handle Kenp (check the post
> host, etc.) end up where they belong....
> 




From lambert@morgan.net Wed Jan 21 12:12:56 EST 1998
Article: 62929 of alt.discrimination
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PUBLIC STATEMENT OF RONALD LAMBERT

I regret to observe that the National Alliance has resumed
its practice of making forged posts under my name and
e-mail address, as part of their deranged vendetta against
Harold Covington of the National Socialist White People's
Party. I am unable to complain about this because Mr.
"Hammer" (Vincent Breeding of Tampa, Florida) uses
a pornography server called dreamon.com located in
Singapore.

However, please be advised that because of this practice,
I no longer post to Usenet except anonymously, and that
any and all posts appearing under the e-mail address of 
lambert@morgan.net, other than this one of course, are
forgeries on the part of the National Alliance. 

Why they have picked me to do this to I don't know, unless it
is simply their general, common practice of harassing former
members. I was involved with the NA for a brief period several 
months ago, but left when I began to see signs that 
Covington might, in fact, be correct and the group might 
be a government front of some kind. I repeatedly questioned
the wisdom of an alleged Aryan racial group devoting seemingly
the bulk of its resources towards defaming and abusing one
single man, and as a result I seem to have been placed on the
NA's "enemies list".

Again, please disregard all present and future posts which
appear to come from me. They do not, they are forged by
"John Hammer". I NO LONGER POST TO USENET UNDER
MY OWN NAME.

Ronald L. Lambert





From lambert@morgan.net Wed Jan 21 12:12:57 EST 1998
Article: 62989 of alt.discrimination
From: lambert@morgan.net
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 98 03:54:46 GMT
Subject: Re: How do We Solve the Jewish Problem? 
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On 1/19/98 8:31PM, in message <19980120023101.VAA11088@ladder01.news.aol.com>, 
GMC0633  wrote:

> Please give me some feedback on how to deal with this problem. 


Your header states: "How do we solve the Jewish Problem?"

 Society will always have problems with or without the Jewish
people. Most Jews are descent people yet, some of their leaders
-- as well as other people's leaders -- are inherently corrupt.

 The problem is that with the pseudo-religious dogma of universal
egalitarianism, even once ethnically proud Jewish families are
leaving behind their age old traditions and are in search of a different
identity. One notices this when I post Orthodox or Conservative
articles who despise the "un-Jewish" characteristics of reform/liberal/
reconstructive Judaism.

 Many movement people are too obsessed about the Jews. If someone
isn't pointing out the follies of the Jews, we point our fingers
at the Christians; or the WASPS; or the "white trailer trash" or
the "southern redneck hillbillies." One often wonders why only
select groups are targeted as being the purveyours of evil and
distortion while others are given a proverbal sweeping under the
rug as if this isn't a problem.

 To "solve" the Jewish problem it must be explained why
they are the problem in the first place. One must not continously
repeat what a piece of garbage the Talmud is, but seek to reflect
on some of it's good points. I know many movement folk would
blush if I were to tell them how their own European ancestors
were just as sickening and repulsive as some of the Talmud's
statements. The real problem is not in any particular group
per se, but in those who seek to control us through their
own warped ideas of egalitarianism or universalism.

 Our *real* enemies are not people but *other ideas*. Remember,
that many Jews hate other Jews too based on their ideas. Read
an Israeli newspaper sometime and one will see how their own
tribe is so divided they are willing to cut one another's throat.

 I guess the only way to solve the "jewish" problem in a social
context is:

1) Support Arab-American groups (I do! I'm still called a "racist"
                                   regardless if I do!)

2) An allie is one who favors seperation and nationalism REGARDLESS
of their own ethnic or racial origins. I like Iran and Iraq too.

3) Rather than pointing the facts out to any willing observer that
they do control a larger proportion of the mass-media than their
numbers ought to warrant, fight for your own *ideas*. Remember Whites
are by far the largest percentage of those in power in this Country.
 Just remeber they are often serving foreign ideas and not the
ideas and contexts that we like. Change the *idea* to pro-self-kind
ethics and non-semitic values and one changes the RULES! This may
offend some Jewish people, yet it is pertinent that we seek our
salvation without their involvement whatsoever. 

 Many Native American tribes have learned this simple truth. Many
of them have thrown their Judeo-Christian shackles off and are now
free to incorporate their own pagan religion(s) into any religious
service. Blacks are learning this too. Many black churches are becoming
very ethno-centric. And celebrating Kwaanza.


4) Let Jews solve their own problems. In time, the conservative and
pro-liberal crowd will realize their errors in self-sacrificing their
own life and children for the heritage of others is detrimental to
their existence.



From lambert@morgan.net Sun Jan 25 12:34:34 EST 1998
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From: lambert@morgan.net
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On 1/23/98 7:38AM, in message <01bd2804$aacbb8e0$c5c12399@default>, "NSWPP" 
 wrote:


> 
> Red  wrote in article <99127@!>...
> > Hey Williams; did you read Harold Covington's article in NSnet stating
> > that you are engaged in a secret homosexual relationship with William
> > Pierce and that you are blackmailing Pierce about it?
> > 
> > 
> 
>   I have made no such allegation and everyone who has
> followed these posts is aware of the facts. One of the National
> Alliance's tactics to avoid discussing the behavior of their guru,
> William Pierce, and certain of his associates is to "refute"
> allegations that were never made.
> 

ANOTHER LIE FROM HAROLD COVINGTON. HE ACCUSED BEN KLASSEN OF
MOLESTING HIS MOTHER AND LITTLE BOYS DESPITE THAT HE WAS
A KNOW HETERO-SEXUAL AND MARRIED MAN OF 40 YEARS.

HTTP://WWW.NSWPP.COM ---EXPOSES COVINGTON'S ENDLESS LIES



>   Interestingly enough, Kevin Alfred Strom's first foray into
> the Scheissfest, well over two years ago, was a passionate defense
> of Will Williams' heterosexuality. Strom claimed that I had accused
> Williams of being a homosexual, an allegation which I presume
> Strom was intelligent enough to know was false.
> 
>   I have often wondered why Strom leaped forwarded to
> defend his "friend" against an accusation which he surely knew
> had never been made.....?
> 

HAROLD MADE THIS ACCUSTATION ON A NUMBER OF OCCASIONS. ONE MUST
VISIT ANY DEJANEWS SEARCH AND THEY WOULD LEARN THE SIMPLE TRUTH
THAT HE IS PAID TO LIE.

HTTP://WWW.NSWPP.COM



>   Honor among thieves? I don't think so.
> 

HAROLD ALLIED WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND AS INFORMER? 
WE KNOW SO!

EXPOSE THE FEDERAL NAZI AT:

HTTP://WWW.NSWPP.COM



> Harold A. Covington (ALSO KNOW AS "WINSTON SMITH AND MYRON SILVERSTEIN")
> 
> 




From lambert@morgan.net Sun Jan 25 12:35:32 EST 1998
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 Perhaps the most prophetic book on the coming Yugoslav-style
wars in America is fortold in "Civil War II by Thomas W. Chittum"


His website is http://members.aol.com/Chittum


 He is a well-know military analysist and believes that ethnic, cultural,
and other "un-desirables" will face *ARMED* conflict.



From lambert@morgan.net Sun Jan 25 12:35:33 EST 1998
Article: 63126 of alt.discrimination
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Allied War Crimes:
The Greatest Mass Rape in History 
Austin App’s Ravishing the Women of Conquered Europe 
by Kevin Alfred Strom 

One of this century's greatest crimes, and probably one of the
greatest crimes against women in history, was the mass rape of the
conquered women of Europe after the Judeo-Communist victory there in
1945. The rapists were mainly Red Army soldiers, some of them
non-White troops from the Far East and Central Asian Republics of the
Soviet Union. But I am sorry to say that many of the rapists were men
of our own race, and some were Americans. They were brutes no doubt,
but they were permitted and encouraged to indulge their lower than
bestial urges by official "Allied" policies which incited hatred
particularly against the Germans, but also against those of other
European nationalities which were then allied with Germany in an
anti-Communist bloc. One cannot contemplate this great mass orgy of
rape, gang rape, and sexual slavery of innocent women and little girls
without revulsion. It would be easy for you to toss this newsletter
aside and pickup more pleasant or amusing reading. But if you want to
know the truth about one of the darkest secrets of our present
establishment, a horrible crime against women about which the
Politically Correct feminists are strangely silent, then I urge you to
read on. 

I claim no originality for the documentation or recounting of this
ghastly crime perpetrated mainly by what Franklin Roosevelt called
"our noble Soviet ally." We are indebted to Dr. Austin J. App, a
professor and scholar of English literature at Catholic University,
the University of Scranton, and LaSalle College, among others, who
risked career and livelihood to bring these truths to light. In April,
1946, when he published the work upon which this article is based,
entitled Ravishing the Women of Conquered Europe, he was a lone voice
crying out for justice in an America still high on war propaganda and
on a "victory" that in the later Cold War years and after would be
seen clearly as a defeat for America and the West as much as it was
for Germany. 

As the Red Army advanced toward her in 1945, the city of Berlin had
become a city virtually without men. Out of a civilian population of
2,700,000, 2,000,000 were women. It is small wonder that the fear of
sexual attack raced through the city like a plague. Doctors were
besieged by patients seeking information on the quickest way to commit
suicide, and poison was in great demand. 

In Berlin stood a charity institution, the Haus Dehlem, an orphanage,
maternity hospital, and foundling home. Soviet soldiers entered the
home, and repeatedly raped pregnant women and women who had just given
birth. This was not an isolated incident. No one will ever know how
many women were raped, but doctors' estimates run as high as 100,000
for the city of Berlin alone, their ages ranging from 10 to 70. 

On March 24, 1945, our "noble Soviet allies" entered Danzig. A
50-year-old Danzig teacher reported that her niece, 15, was raped
seven times, and her other niece, 22, was raped fifteen times. A
Soviet officer told a group of women to seek safety in the Cathedral.
Once they were securely locked inside, the beasts of Bolshevism
entered, and ringing the bells and playing the organ, "celebrated" a
foul orgy through the night, raping all the women, some more than
thirty times. A Catholic pastor in Danzig declared, "They violated
even eight-year-old girls and shot boys who tried to shield their
mothers." 

The Most Reverend Bernard Griffin, British Archbishop, made a tour of
Europe to study conditions there, and reported, "In Vienna alone they
raped 100,000 women, not once but many times, including girls not yet
in their teens, and aged women." 

A Lutheran pastor in Germany, in a letter of August 7, 1945, to the
Bishop of Chichester, England, describes how a fellow pastor's "two
daughters and a grandchild (ten years of age) suffer from gonorrhea,
[as a] result of rape" and how "Mrs. N. was killed when she resisted
an attempt to rape her," while her daughter was "raped and deported,
allegedly to Omsk, Siberia, for indoctrination." 

The day after our noble Soviet allies conquered Neisse, Silesia, 182
Catholic nuns were raped. In the diocese of Kattowitz 66 pregnant nuns
were counted. In one convent when the Mother Superior and her
assistant tried to protect the younger nuns with outstretched arms,
they were shot down. A priest reported in Nord Amerika magazine for
November 1, 1945, that he knew "several villages where all the women,
even the aged and girls as young as twelve, were violated daily for
weeks by the Russians." 

Sylvester Michelfelder, a Lutheran pastor, wrote in the Christian
Century "Bands of irresponsible bandits in Russian or American
uniforms pillage and rob the trains. Women and girls are violated in
sight of everyone. They are stripped of their clothes." 

On April 27, 1946 Vatican Radio charged that in the Russian occupation
zone of Eastern Germany cries of help are going up "from girls and
women who are being brutally raped and whose bodily and spiritual
health is completely shaken." 

The rapists did not all wear a red star. John Dos Passos, writing in
LIFE magazine for January 7, 1946, quotes a "red-faced major" as
saying that "Lust, liquor and loot are the soldier's pay." A
serviceman wrote to TIME magazine for November 12, 1945 "Many a sane
American family would recoil in horror if they knew how 'Our Boys'
conduct themselves, with such complete callousness in human
relationships over here." An army sergeant wrote "Our own Army and the
British Army ...have done their share of looting and raping... This
offensive attitude among our troops is not at all general, but the
percentage is large enough to have given our Army a pretty black name,
and we too are considered an army of rapists." 

An Italian survivor of American bombing states that Black American
troops, stationed in Naples, were allowed by their superiors free
access to poor, hungry, and humiliated Italian women. The result of
this interracial rape and sexual slavery was the production of a
generation of pitiable mixed-race children, a legacy of the brutal
conqueror. 

According to an AP dispatch of September 12, 1945, entitled
"German-American Marriages Forbidden", the Franklin Roosevelt
government instructed its soldiers that marriage with the inferior
Germans was absolutely forbidden, but those having illegitimate
children by German women, whose husbands and boyfriends were
conveniently dead or held as prisoners or slave laborers, could count
on allowance money. And, according to TIME magazine of September 17,
1945, the government provided these soldiers with an estimated 50
million condoms per month, and graphically instructed them as to their
use. For all practical purposes, our soldiers were being told: "Teach
these Germans a lesson -- and have a wonderful time!" Such were the
great crusaders who brought "democracy" to Europe. 

For the Americans and British, open rape was not as common as among
the Soviet troops. The Soviets simply raped any female from eight
years up and if a German man or woman killed a Russian soldier for
anything, including rape, 50 Germans were killed for each incident, as
reported in TIME magazine, June 11, 1945. But for most of our boys,
having that "wonderful time" depended a great deal on the
"cooperation" of the German and Austrian women. From the starving and
the homeless, of course, sexual "cooperation" could be bought for a
few pennies or a mouthful of food. I don't think we ought to dignify
this arrangement with any other than its true name of sexual slavery. 

The Christian Century for December 5, 1945 reported "the American
provost marshal, Lieutenant Colonel Gerald F. Beane, said that rape
presents no problem for the military police because a bit of food, a
bar of chocolate, or a bar of soap seem to make rape unnecessary.
Think that over, if you want to understand the situation in Germany."
The Weekly Review of London, for October 25, 1945, described it thus:
"Young girls, unattached, wander about and freely offer themselves for
food or bed. ...very simply, they have one thing left to sell, and
they sell it... ...as a way of dying it may be worse than starvation,
but it will put off dying for months -- or even years." 

Dr. George N. Shuster, president of Hunter College, wrote in the
Catholic Digest of December 1945 after a visit to the American Zone of
occupation, "You have said it all when you say that Europe is now a
place where woman has lost her perennial fight for decency because the
indecent alone live." By official policy, the Allies created
conditions in which the only German mothers who could keep their young
children alive were those who themselves or whose sisters became
mistresses of the occupying troops. Our own officials admittedly
brought the Germans down to a total daily food intake less than that
of an American breakfast, a level which leads to slow but sure death
unless relieved. 

According to testimony given in the United States Senate on July 17,
1945, when the colonial French troops under Eisenhower's command,
presumably mostly Africans, entered the German city of Stuttgart, they
herded German women into the subways and raped some two thousand of
them. In Stuttgart alone, troops under Eisenhower's command raped more
women in one week than troops under German command raped in all of
France for four entire years. In fact, of all the major belligerents
in World War II, the German troops had by far the smallest record of
rape and looting. In fact, the German army's incidence of rape in all
of Germany's occupied territories was even lower than that of American
troops stationed on American soil! 

According to the International News Service in London, January 31,
1946, when American soldier's wives were brought to Germany, they were
given special authorization to wear military uniforms because "the GIs
did not want their wives mistaken for Fraeuleins by other occupation
troops." A writer for the New York World Telegram January 21, 1945
stated "Americans look on the German women as loot, just like cameras
and Lugers." Dr. G. Stewart, in a health statement submitted to
General Eisenhower, reported that in the first six months of American
occupation, venereal disease jumped to twenty times its former level
in Germany. 

I want you imagine an orgy of rape like this happening in your
country, in your neighborhood, to your family, to your wife, your
sister, your daughter. I want you to imagine what it would feel like
to be totally powerless to stop it from happening, completely unable
to bring the criminals to justice. And I want to ask you, were there
ever any "war crimes" or "hate crimes" trials of these butchers and
rapists and inciters to butchery and rape? We in America are very good
at raining "smart bombs" on our adversaries, and in violently
enforcing the dictates of the United Nations on faraway peoples that
our press have vilified. But we have really been very insulated from
the horrors of mass warfare on our own territory. However, unless we
wake up, we will find that someday the political situation in America
will not be to the liking of the international elitists, and we may
find foreign troops in blue UN helmets on our shores, to "correct" the
situation. They will of course be called "peace-keeping" troops in the
macabre Newspeak that our would-be masters have created, but their
bombs and bullets, I assure you, will kill your family quite as dead
as any others. And in the homelands where those "peace-keepers" hail
from, I also assure you that the controlled media will have thoroughly
indoctrinated them with a hatred of the nasty Americans who must be
put in their place for their sins of questioning the dictates of the
New World Order. Just as today, we are taught to hate the Iraqis and
the Afrikaners of South Africa; just as yesterday we were taught to
hate the Germans. 

Few today remember that in the 1940s, the Allies, who even then were
calling their world-government-in-the-making the "United Nations,"
were pursuing a policy of unconditional surrender, which meant that
the Germans would be obligated to accept an occupation government
whose announced intentions, the infamous and genocidal Morgenthau
Plan, would have reduced Germany to medieval conditions and cut her
population by enforced starvation. Go to a large library and check out
Secretary Morgenthau's book, Germany Is Our Problem, Harper and
Brothers, 1945. You will note the use of the term "United Nations" on
the front flyleaf and in the foreword by Franklin D. Roosevelt. A
prominent Jewish writer in America, Theodore Kaufman, had in 1941
written a book entitled Germany Must Perish, which advocated the
extermination of all Germans by sterilization. Kaufman's book received
favorable reviews in major American magazines and newspapers. Other
books, such as Louis Nizer's What To Do With Germany, also contributed
to this atmosphere of strident anti-German hatred. War propaganda and
official policy combined to create an image of the German as sub-human
and deserving of almost infinite punishment if not annihilation. 

Churchill said to the Germans in January, 1945, "We Allies are no
monsters. This, at least, I can say, on behalf of the United Nations,
to Germany. ...Peace, though based on unconditional surrender, will
bring to Germany and Japan immense and immediate alleviation of
suffering and agony." 

Against that false claim the late Dr. Austin App proclaimed the truth:
Those Allies who were "no monsters" literally raped more European
women than had ever before been raped in the history of the world.
They put Germany on a starvation-level diet. Under direct orders from
Dwight Eisenhower, they killed more than a million German POWs. They
looted 12 million people of their homes, goods, food, and even clothes
and drove them from their homelands. They took one-fourth of their
farmland, they took their ships and their factories and their farm
implements and then told them to live by farming. They abused and
starved to death more German babies than there ever were Jews in
Germany. They raped and debauched hundreds of thousands of German,
Austrian, and Hungarian girls and women from eight to eighty. They
brought to their death five times as many Germans in one year of peace
as died during five years of war. Yes, yes, of course, these men of
the United Nations, these men of the New World Order are no monsters. 

Quite apart from any ethnic or ideological considerations, World War
II was a war between, on the one side, the elitists who created
Communism as a way-station on the road to their New World Order; and
on the other, those who opposed that New World Order. It is a tragedy
of millennial proportions that America and Britain were induced to
fight on the side of Communism and Communism's masters. 

Ladies and gentlemen, you have been lied to by those who want to
submerge us into their world government. The public schools, the major
media, and the government are lying to you. If you want to keep your
freedom, you need to wake up. 
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From lambert@morgan.net Mon Jan 26 13:29:57 EST 1998
Article: 63450 of alt.discrimination
From: lambert@morgan.net
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 98 13:11:21 GMT
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On 1/26/98 3:48AM, in message <34cbb0a3.3530532@news.maui.net>, Shannon Perley 
 wrote:

> On Sat, 24 Jan 1998 00:03:08 -0800, Abominable SONOMAn
>  wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> >Ian McKinney wrote:
> >
> >> RACIAL ANALYSIS OF BEST & WORST PLACES TO LIVE
> >>
> >> The Children's Rights Council has released its latest (1997) ranking
> >> of most to least desirables places to live. Here is
> >> my demographic analysis based on the 1990 census figures. L.A.
> >> ----------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Best Places---
> >> Rank       1          2           3           4       5
> >> State      ND      VT        MN        NH      IO
> >> White    94.6%  98.6%   94.4%   98.0%   96.6%
> >> Black     0.4%   0.3%    2.2%    0.6%    1.7%
> >> Hispanic  0.7%   0.7%    1.2%    1.0%    1.2%
> >
> >Since when was North Dakota such a good place to live??  If it's so
> >great, why haven't more people moved there ?  I don't see no
> >mass-flocking to North Dakota, do you? Same thing for Vermont and Idaho.
> >The reason they probably got such high ratings is because almost nobody
> >lives in those areas, so there is hardly any crime. (North Dakota has
> >roughly the same population as the smallest state, Rhode Island, but is
> >hundreds of times bigger, landwise! )
> >
> >Also, how can you generalize by state? When I read "best places to live"
> >I thought you were going to put cities. A state like Minnesota has many
> >different areas that would vary greatly in status of living. Places like
> >Minneapolis/St.Paul would be completely different from the more northern
> >areas of Minnesota, which are almost uninhabited.
> >
> >And what about Hawaii? The majority of the people who live there are
> >non-white Polynesians, yet they don't seem to be having many problems
> >with crime or low standards of living.  If you asked any American
> >whether they would like to live in  North Dakota  or Hawaii, which do
> >you think they'd pick?
> 
>  I have lived in the Hawaiian islands for most my adult life, and I
> presently  reside on the Island of Maui.  one-third of the Island
> population is West European, one-third of the Island is Japanese, 16
> percent Filipino,  and it just a few Polynesians.  If Maui and the
> other islands have  low crime rates, it is because of  two-thirds
> population of  European and   Asian residents. If we had blacks and
> Mexicans we would have higher crime rates.  As a  Euro American here
> in the islands I live in a multi-ethnic society, but I do not equate
> the asian with the africans  Or the Mexicans.
> 
>   Shannon --
> 
> 
Strange. I too have noticed that Asians in America are not
violence prone like other ethnic groups. When I resided in
Los Angeles, California, the Asians I went to school with
seemed very disciplined and hard working. Many of the Whites
did not possess such ethics. Perhaps one could learn what 
has gone wrong with America by examining the influx of first
generation immigrants and their aspects of life.

 I knew an Iranian family who were very decent people and
not corrupted by the decadence in American society and I
admired these people for holding to their former countrie's
standards.



From lambert@morgan.net Mon Jan 26 13:29:59 EST 1998
Article: 63455 of alt.discrimination
From: lambert@morgan.net
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 98 07:02:00 GMT
Subject: Re: Dresden -- A Real Holocaust
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On 1/24/98 1:02AM, in message <6ac3mf$9na$1@newsd-141.iap.bryant.webtv.net>, D. 
M.  wrote:

> What you say is true about Dresden.  Even on history channels the number
> killed in this city is declared as "thousands".  How many thousands
> exactly?  I seem to agree with about 300,000 myself.
> 
> It is important to note that Churchill considered these bombing
> retribution for the V-1 and V-2 rocket attacks on London.  Ironically it
> was Britain that agreed with France on the outset of war in 1939 NOT to
> attack or bomb German cities.  Once the United States entered the war it
> seemed open season on everything on a massive scale.  England is still
> the dirtiest player in the game along with the U.S.A.
> 
> While one could justify the atomic bombs on Japan as a means of ending a
> war that would have killed ten fold on both sides, the bombing of cities
> like Dresden is both unforgivable and against everything the Allies
> entered the war for in the first place.  Bombing innocent women and
> children into the ground for no military or strtegic reason by the
> spokespeople of democracy, freedom, and justice is just outright
> CRIMINAL; there should have been heads of state from England and the
> U.S.A. at Nuremburg on trial as well in my opinion.
> 
> It is important to note that at the time Roosevelt was practically in
> bed with Stalin and cutting side deals with him behind Churchill's back.
> At least W.C. was willing to challenge Stalin for Poland's independence;
> FDR literally handed the entire section on eastern Europe over to the
> Soviet Union without a mutter.  Truly pathetic.
> 
> In an even more morbid display of barbarism; Roosevelt succeeded in
> making a fool of himself once more at the meeting of the "Big Three" in
> Teheran, Iran.  It is reported that Stalin made a statement during the
> proceedings of bringing Hitler's men to justice, the justice of the
> firing squad.  He bragged that after the war Russia would execute 50,000
> generals and officers.  Churchill realizing the next great menace openly
> made his opinion felt by standing and saying that if Stalin planned to
> speak that way this meeting would adjorned and he would leave.
> Roosevelt, the Communist stooge, told him something along the lines of,
> "Churchill, sit down.  We aren't going to kill 50,000 German officers;
> we're only going to kill 49,999!".  The speaker for life, liberty, and
> the pursuit of happiness making a statement like that for the whole
> world to hear!?  What does that tell you?
> 
> It's shit like that that make he ashamed to be an American in this fake
> democracy.


http://www.sound.net/~fenix (link to politcally incorrect, great info)



From lambert@morgan.net Wed Jan 28 23:13:35 EST 1998
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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 98 04:58:56 GMT
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Associated Press: 
January 28, 1998
 
                              FLU STIRS IMMIGRATION ISSUES
 
    After the recent announcement from the Centers for Disease Control
that the Sydney Influenza virus had entered the U.S. through Mexico,
America has been turning its attention towards border issues. Over the
past several weeks, millions of Americans have been struck down by the
worst flu epidemic in 35 years. Southern California has been hit
hardest with the plague spreading across the southwest. Mexican health
officials stated that cases have been popping up in Mexico all winter
and were transported to the U.S. via illegal immigrants. It is
suspected that illegal restuarant workers and food handlers are
responsible for the spreading of the virus. 
    America politicians have responded by proposing new legislation to
seal the porous border. After the super bowl held in San Diego, only a
few minutes from the border, petition stands were lined up at the
exits of the stadium, drawing thousands of signatures. Tom Morphew,
head of Boot 'em--a border activist organization in S. California,
gave a short speech at the make-shift rally which has drawn attention
nation-wide. He told the anxious crowd that "they are allowing this
place to fill up with millions of uneducated, unskilled, non-English
speaking, non-assimilating, gringo-hating, public service sucking,
job-thieving, wage-compromising peasants from a miserably failed
culture who boink like rabbits."Since then, representatives, senators,
and councilman  from all over the country and especially California
have had their office phones ringing around the clock. 
    Politicians, eager to win the vote in upcoming elections have
promised a round-up of all illegal immigrants and will revoke any
green cards issued within the last 10 years.
   Chicano Studies professor Rodolfo Acuña of CSUN said after a
counter demonstration with a tone of defeat, "although influenza is
considered an inconvience for many, who would think it would lead to
the deportation of the people of Aztlan back to Mexico."
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