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From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:21 EST 2002
Article: 1263950 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Subject: Re: Two guys debate
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 23:40:32 -0800
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You are a born liar Mathews why don't you check with the CBC and get a copy of
the Program
The video clearly did show how much was left from a body after the door of the
Creamatorium
oven was opened.

Kurt Knoll.
============
"Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
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> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> news:3c11577b$1_2@binaries.vphos.net...
>
> > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
> > news:048Q7.6818$Sj1.2310322@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > news:3c11087e_2@binaries.vphos.net...
> > > > An average body after cremation leaves about 40 Kilos egg 80 bounds of
> > > ashes and
> > > > bones. Go and fit this in your
> > > > show box Mathews.
> > >
> > > No,  a cremated body leaves about 8  pounds of remains.
> > >
> > > Does this have something to do with what was being discussed?
> > >
> > > Do you have a clue what was being discussed?
> > >
> > > Do you have a clue?
>
> > That is not what was shown on CBC Newsweek.
>
> Bullshit.
>
> --
> Philip Mathews
>
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:21 EST 2002
Article: 1263966 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Subject: Re: Two guys debate
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You are a typical Jewish liar.

Kurt Knoll.
========
"Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
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> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> news:3c11c447_2@binaries.vphos.net...
> > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
> > news:EJcQ7.7134$Sj1.2490738@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > news:3c11577b$1_2@binaries.vphos.net...
> > >
> > > > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
> > > > news:048Q7.6818$Sj1.2310322@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > > > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > > > news:3c11087e_2@binaries.vphos.net...
> > > > > > An average body after cremation leaves about 40 Kilos egg 80
> bounds of
> > > > > ashes and
> > > > > > bones. Go and fit this in your
> > > > > > show box Mathews.
> > > > >
> > > > > No,  a cremated body leaves about 8  pounds of remains.
> > > > >
> > > > > Does this have something to do with what was being discussed?
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you have a clue what was being discussed?
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you have a clue?
> > >
> > > > That is not what was shown on CBC Newsweek.
> > >
> > > Bullshit.
>
> > You are a born liar Mathews why don't you check with the CBC and get a
> copy of
> > the Program
> > The video clearly did show how much was left from a body after the door of
> the
> > Creamatorium
> > oven was opened.
>
> I grew up on the CBC.
>
> They are not responsible for your stupidity.
>
> --
> Philip Mathews
>
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:21 EST 2002
Article: 1263977 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.flame.niggers,soc.culture.jewish,can.politics
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Subject: Re: What U.S. Taxpayers Should know.
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And don't forget the Extortion money paid to Israel by Germany to keep the
holohoax alive.

Kurt Knoll.
=============
"Anonymous"  wrote in message
news:caf746a3a8be4b25a7624e3ac0e158fd@hyperreal.pl...
> Let's file this away, pending reimbursement day. Most Americans are not aware
how much of their
> tax revenue our government sends to Israel. For the fiscal year ending in
September 30, 1997,
> the U.S. has given Israel $6.72 billion: $6.194 billion falls under Israel's
foreign aid
> allotment and $526 million comes from agencies such as the Department of
Commerce, the U.S.
> Information Agency and the Pentagon. The $6.72 billion figure does not include
loan guarantees
> and annual compound interest totalling $3.122 billion the U.S. pays on money
borrowed to give to
> Israel. It does not include the cost to U.S. taxpayers of IRS tax exemptions
that donors can
> claim when they donate money to Israeli charities. (Donors claim approximately
$1 billion in
> Federal tax deductions annually. This ultimately costs other U.S. tax payers
$280 million to
> $390 million.) When grant, loans, interest and tax deductions are added
together for the fiscal
> year ending in September 30, 1997, our special rela!
> tionship with Israel cost U.S. taxpayers over $10 billion.
> http://www.wrmea.com/html/us_aid_to_israel.htm
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:22 EST 2002
Article: 1263978 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Subject: Re: Two guys debate
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What is a typical Jewish liar? you are a typical liar ???? .

Kurt Knoll.
=========
"Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
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> Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> news:3c123a4d_2@binaries.vphos.net...
>
> > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
> > news:AepQ7.7474$Sj1.2957046@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > news:3c11c447_2@binaries.vphos.net...
> > > > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
> > > > news:EJcQ7.7134$Sj1.2490738@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > > > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > > > news:3c11577b$1_2@binaries.vphos.net...
> > > > >
> > > > > > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
> > > > > > news:048Q7.6818$Sj1.2310322@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > > > > > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:3c11087e_2@binaries.vphos.net...
> > > > > > > > An average body after cremation leaves about 40 Kilos egg 80
> > > bounds of
> > > > > > > ashes and
> > > > > > > > bones. Go and fit this in your
> > > > > > > > show box Mathews.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > No,  a cremated body leaves about 8  pounds of remains.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Does this have something to do with what was being discussed?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Do you have a clue what was being discussed?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Do you have a clue?
> > > > >
> > > > > > That is not what was shown on CBC Newsweek.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bullshit.
> > >
> > > > You are a born liar Mathews why don't you check with the CBC and get a
> > > copy of
> > > > the Program
> > > > The video clearly did show how much was left from a body after the
> door of
> > > the
> > > > Creamatorium
> > > > oven was opened.
> > >
> > > I grew up on the CBC.
> > >
> > > They are not responsible for your stupidity.
>
> > You are a typical Jewish liar.
>
> I'm neither Jewish nor a liar.
>
> What is a typical Jewish liar?
>
> --
> Philip Mathews
>
>
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:22 EST 2002
Article: 1263979 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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You are a worthless Vegetable Jeffery all mouth and no Brain.

Kurt Knoll.
==========
"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
news:jeffreygbrown-62DE7F.12174508122001@news.alt.net...
> In article , Gutless Donnie Ellis
>  wrote:
>
> > Morris supports perversion.
>
> Show us, Gutless Donnie. You're a known liar. Your unsupported accusations are
> as worthless as you are.
>
> JGB
>
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown                          jeffreygbrown@mailandnews.com
> For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
> to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
> To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study", 1997




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:23 EST 2002
Article: 1264480 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Subject: Re: "pat" needs to study the facts
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Orac all the information you have is second and third hand you did not live
there. Keep on believing what you want
I am not stopping you.
But you are wrong if you want to convince me. Considering the sourer where it
comes from.

Kurt Knoll.
========
"Orac"  wrote in message
news:Orac-0A8ED2.20074603122001@news2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
> In article <3c0b0d91_2@binaries.vphos.net>,
>  "Kurt Knoll"  wrote:
>
> > Well orac how important are the Holocaust to you ?.
> >
> > One thing is definitely for sure since the first time it was made
> > public the Jews stared playing poker with it. For what I did hear
> > from soldiers and comparing with what was said at the Nuremberg Trial
> > were two different Horses.
>
> Really? Why should we accept your account without corroboration, when it
> is hearsay?
>
> But, just to play ball, why don't you tell us what you heard from the
> soldiers and tell us specifically how it differed from the testimony at
> the Nuremberg Trials.
>
>
> > For one thing in a Military trial the
> > burden of proof is not the same as in a civil trial. Evidence
> > presented by the Russians at the Trial were not truthful and highly
> > inflated. This is what the Russians admit it today.
>
> Really? Which Russians admit that the evidence presented by the Russians
> at the Nuremberg Trials was not truthful? Which specific evidence
> presented by the Russians at the Trial was not truthful? Please cite
> your sources.
>
>
>
> > You can dispute it if you like this does not change the fact.
>
> I dispute that you have demonstrated that anything you have said in this
> thread is actually a "fact."
>
>
> >Also at
> > the Nuremberg trial evidence was presented without gross examination.
> > At many points while the trial was interrupted for us listening
> > audience and thing were kept confidential .
>
> Really? Which specifc points in the trial?
>
>
> > When some actions were incorrectly reported the local news media that
> > was owned by the Jews would not accept any letters to the Editor from
> > People I knew.
>
> More hearsay from a known anti-Semite.
>
>
> > Basically all testimonial By German Soldier were und total control by
> > the allied and the Jews. Soldiers I knew personally were under a gag
> > order not to discuss anything after the have been discharged after a
> > hearing.
> >
> > And threatened wit Jail if they do so.
>
> Well, now that it's over 50 years later, what's the harm in your telling
> us WHO these soldiers were who were supposedly under a "gag order"? Or
> is the real reason you won't name them because they never existed?
>
> --
> Orac        |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
>             |
>             |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
>             | inconvenience me with questions?"




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:23 EST 2002
Article: 1264959 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Can they investigate a Jew ?.

Kurt Knoll.
======
"Joe Bruno"  wrote in message
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> The Informer  wrote
in message news:...
> > On Fri, 07 Dec 2001 22:15:33 GMT,

> > Joel Rosenberg  wrote:
> >
> > >kmcvay@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) writes:
> > >
> > >> In article <1DaQ7.32476$nm3.1544979@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com>,
> > >> Stephen H. Kawamoto  wrote:
> > >> >B-nai B-rith is also a civilian spy arm of the Jewish
Anti-Defamation
> > >> >League, the official oxymoron for the Jewish-American people who
deface,
> >
> > >> B'nai B'rith was the parent organization that created the ADL,
which
> > >> has long since severed its ties. In short, there is no connection
> > >> between BB and the ADL, and BB isn't a "civilian spy arm" for
anyone.
> >
> > >> >defame and destroy free speech that exposes their
smoke-and-magick show
> >
> > >> Provide evidence that BB or the ADL have "destroy free speech."
Use
> > >> your free speech to do so.
> > :
> > >Hey, Ken, warn me before you do things like that, okay? -- I was
drinking coffee,
> > >and I just had to mop off the keyboard.
> >
> > Well this should make you spill your coffee again vermin because it
shows B'nai
> > Brith trying to have an individual imprisoned for his words and
books! Care to
> > deny it vermin?
> >
> > http://bnaibrith.org/pr/brazil2.html
> > (Link active December 7, 2001 for verification)
> >
> > From the World's Largest Jewish Organization
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> > B'nai B'rith
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> > LANDMARK COURT DECISION CONVICTS HOLOCAUST DENIER IN BRAZIL
> > Washington, D.C. (November 7, 1996) -- For the first time in Latin
America a
> > Holocaust denier has been found guilty and sentenced to two years in
prison.
> > The landmark decision of the High Court of Justice in the
southernmost
> > Brazilian state of Rio Grande do Sul reversed a lower court ruling
and
> > resulted in the conviction of Siegfried Ellwanger on grounds that he
violated
> > the nation's constitution and penal code.
> >
> >  > written and enacted! Tavish comment>
> >
> > The president of B'nai B'rith in Brazil hailed the decision.
> >
> >  > are up to on a global scale. Tavish comment>
> >
> > "Holocaust deniers such as Ellwanger seek to encourage racial and
> > religious divisions that are not compatible with our democratic
> > society," said Abrao Lowenthal.
> >
> >  > people for mere words. Jews are the worst enemies of any nation's
> > liberties there is- especially the United States! Tavish comment>
> >
> > B'nai B'rith along with other Jewish groups in Brazil brought
Ellwanger
> > to trial.
> >
> >  > will eventually go on trial and be imprisoned for saying things the
> > Neo-Bolshevist progeny of the original Bolsheviks dislike! Tavish
comment>
> >
> > Under the ruling, Ellwanger's books will be confiscated and banned.
> > Ellwanger, who writes under the name "S.E. Castan," has written or
> > published 13 anti-Semitic books in Portuguese including the infamous
> > The Elders of the Protocols of Zion and Henry Ford's The
International
> > Jew. One of Ellwanger's books is titled The Holocaust: Jewish or
German."
> >
> > 
> >
> > Once again the vermin try to be clever in their seeking to ridicule
those who
> > expose their ways to the public at large!
> >
> >                                                       Doc Tavish
>
>
>
>
>
> >> I keep wondering why you are bothering to post this material here,
> Tavish. I am sure the CCRA or their supervisory agency in the Canadian
> government has auditors whose function it is to examine people's
> financial records and determine if they owe the CCRA any taxes. The
> IRS has people like that, you know. No one who posts here, as far as I
> can tell, has the authority or the expertise to perform such an audit.
> Why don't you simply report your suspicions to the CCRA and let them
> take it from there? Are you actually holding yourself out as an expert
> on Canadian tax law? FYI, any law, tax or otherwise, consists of more
> than just written statutes-it includes the applicable case law by
> which judges and administrators determine how the law is to be applied
> in specific instances.
>
>
> Joe Bruno




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:23 EST 2002
Article: 1267202 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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 "Hate propaganda is an attack on the truth-seeking process itself.
It is directed to subverting and undermining the search for truth."
                                (David Matas, Bloody Speech, p. 37)

This is what you practice with your nizkor web Kenneth McVay this is a
Fact.

Kurt Knoll.
==========
"Kenneth McVay, OBC"  wrote in message
news:9v06r3$14k0$1@news.tht.net...
> In article <3C1372DE.104942D6@erols.com>,
> Patricia Heil   wrote:
> >Said Jay the cowardly liar.
>
> Not likely - The author hasn't got the balls to post under his own
> name... every time he used to do that, he'd lose another ISP for AUP
> violations.
>
> It most certainly wasn't Mr. Winkler. See:
> Grosvenor: http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/grosvenor-william
> --
>  "Hate propaganda is an attack on the truth-seeking process itself.
> It is directed to subverting and undermining the search for truth."
>                                 (David Matas, Bloody Speech, p. 37)
>                           The Nizkor Project: http://www.nizkor.org




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:24 EST 2002
Article: 1283562 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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You are totally screwed up Susan.

I took the Matas sentence of Kenneth McVay posting on this news
group.

Isn't hate exactly what he wants to create with his postings ?.
Well you cant have it just one way
Susan you and Nizkor are basically doing what you Accuse others
of doing.

Kurt Knoll.
==============
"Susan Cohen"  wrote in message
news:3C14F8B4.DCFAC943@hers.com...
>
>
> Kurt Knoll wrote:
>
> >  "Hate propaganda is an attack on the truth-seeking process
itself.
> > It is directed to subverting and undermining the search for
truth."
> >                                 (David Matas, Bloody Speech,
p. 37)
>
> Thank you for admitting it.
> Tho' I am somewhat surprised that you have the hots for Nizkor.
> Brave of you to admit that as well.
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:24 EST 2002
Article: 1283580 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.politics,us.politics
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Subject: Re: An Lying Shit Knoll
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You hit straight on the Nail. Germanys Histories is written by
the Victors and under Total Control by the Jews.

Her is one part article 130 the law that restricts Germans to
talk about it without going to Jail.

Paragraph 130 sub section C)

It is verboten to show a person under the age of 18 to make
available literature that will contradict the Holocaust
or other Material or to make it available for reading by other
means.

Now lets analyze what is going on here.
Whole German School Classes are basically forced to view hate
against the German by showing them what the Germans did.
But on the other hand Parents hand are tight by this Law to
explain there side of the Story.

There has been some controversy about the Crimes the Wehrmacht
did commit. Jet the Film was stopped 3 times in the last few
years because of cross inaccuracies. Some scenes were shown how
German soldiers committed crimes when it
was proven the German army was never in this area. Another scene
was portrayed as German soldiers
when in fact they Wore Russian Uniform.

What makes it even more Orthodox the Film was but together with a
German Grant to some young Jewish
boys from the states.

And something like this is forced on to the German population to
View. While ate the same time it is
illegal to openly talk about it.



"Fabian"  wrote in message
news:Sl9R7.4138$qU3.537311300@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
> I believe that the StGB §130 of the German criminal code is
being abused by
> the present Justice Department in Germany.
> I am not a historian and all my knowledge of the history for
the WWII period
> depends completely on what I can read in books and on the
Internet.
> If now someone does history research and comes up with a
different answer
> than the 'accepted' stuff (for example: no gas killings in
Auschwitz, or:
> 600,000 jews killed and not 6 Million, or: no planned killings
of jews by
> the German government etc) and publishes this in a book or in
some other
> form, then this person is put in jail? Looses his job? Destroys
his academic
> career? Dr. Stäglich lost his doctorate and his social security
pension for
> 5 years for writing his book 'The Auschwitz Trial'? And Thies
Christopherson
> and all the others punished, persecuted, placed in jail? Is
this the purpose
> of that law? And whatever these people come up with cannot be
discussed,
> debated, researched?
> There is a whole bunch of censored and burned books and
forbidden Internet
> sites listed on http://vho.org/censor/Censor.html , these are
forbidden in
> Germany but can freely be downloaded from that site.
> I remember when in Germany under Hitler books written by Jewish
authors were
> banned and burned in big bon-fires (was it in 1938?), and how
after the war
> the Germans were heavily critized for doing this,  and now they
are back to
> the same, the German Government that is? And not only burning
the books but
> puttingt the authors in jail? Using their §130?
> I am sorry fellows, I don't understand this anymore, I am lost.
>
>
>






From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:24 EST 2002
Article: 1283674 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Here Daffy here is the real law jeffery wanted to know.

From: "Kurt Knoll" 
Subject: Re: An Lying Shit Knoll
Date: Monday, December 10, 2001 2:18 PM

You hit straight on the Nail Fabian. Germanys Histories is
written by
the Victors and under Total Control by the Jews.

Her is one part article 130 the law that restricts Germans to
talk about it without going to Jail.

Paragraph 130 sub section C)

It is verboten to show a person under the age of 18 to make
available literature that will contradict the Holocaust
or other Material or to make it available for reading by other
means.

Now lets analyze what is going on here.
Whole German School Classes are basically forced to view hate
against the German by showing them what the Germans did.
But on the other hand Parents hand are tight by this Law to
explain there side of the Story.

There has been some controversy about the Crimes the Wehrmacht
did commit. Jet the Film was stopped 3 times in the last few
years because of cross inaccuracies. Some scenes were shown how
German soldiers committed crimes when it
was proven the German army was never in this area. Another scene
was portrayed as German soldiers
when in fact they Wore Russian Uniform.

What makes it even more Orthodox the Film was but together with a
German Grant to some young Jewish
boys from the states.

And something like this is forced on to the German population to
View. While ate the same time it is
illegal to openly talk about it.

And here the German Version

  § 129a  StGB zurück  § 130a

 § 130  Volksverhetzung    (1)  Wer in einer Weise, die geeignet
ist, den öffentlichen Frieden zu stören,    1. zum Haß gegen
Teile der Bevölkerung aufstachelt oder zu Gewalt- oder
Willkürmaßnahmen gegen sie auffordert oder    2. die
Menschenwürde anderer dadurch angreift, daß er Teile der
Bevölkerung beschimpft, böswillig verächtlich macht oder
verleumdet, wird mit Freiheitsstrafe von drei Monaten bis zu fünf
Jahren bestraft.    (2) Mit Freiheitsstrafe bis zu drei Jahren
oder mit Geldstrafe wird bestraft, wer    1. Schriften (§ 11 Abs.
3), die zum Haß gegen Teile der Bevölkerung oder gegen eine
nationale, rassische, religiöse oder durch ihr Volkstum bestimmte
Gruppe aufstacheln, zu Gewalt- oder Willkürmaßnahmen gegen sie
auffordern oder die Menschenwürde anderer dadurch angreifen, daß
Teile der Bevölkerung oder eine vorbezeichnete Gruppe beschimpft,
böswillig verächtlich gemacht oder verleumdet werden,    a)
verbreitet,    b) öffentlich ausstellt, anschlägt, vorführt oder
sonst zugänglich macht,    c) einer Person unter achtzehn Jahren
anbietet, überläßt oder zugänglich macht oder    d) herstellt,
bezieht, liefert, vorrätig hält, anbietet, ankündigt, anpreist,
einzuführen oder auszuführen unternimmt, um sie oder aus ihnen
gewonnene Stücke im Sinne der Buchstaben a bis c zu verwenden
oder einem anderen eine solche Verwendung zu ermöglichen, oder
2. eine Darbietung des in Nummer 1 bezeichneten Inhalts durch
Rundfunk verbreitet.    (3) Mit Freiheitsstrafe bis zu fünf
Jahren oder mit Geldstrafe wird bestraft, wer eine unter der
Herrschaft des Nationalsozialismus begangene Handlung der in §
220a Abs. 1 bezeichneten Art in einer Weise, die geeignet ist,
den öffentlichen Frieden zu stören, öffentlich oder in einer
Versammlung billigt, leugnet oder verharmlost.    (4) Absatz 2
gilt auch für Schriften (§ 11 Abs. 3) des in Absatz 3
bezeichneten Inhalts.    (5) In den Fällen des Absatzes 2, auch
in Verbindung mit Absatz 4, und in den Fällen des Absatzes 3 gilt
§ 86 Abs. 3 entsprechend.
  § 129a  StGB zurück  § 130a






"Fabian"  wrote in message
news:Sl9R7.4138$qU3.537311300@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
> I believe that the StGB §130 of the German criminal code is
being abused by
> the present Justice Department in Germany.
> I am not a historian and all my knowledge of the history for
the WWII period
> depends completely on what I can read in books and on the
Internet.
> If now someone does history research and comes up with a
different answer
> than the 'accepted' stuff (for example: no gas killings in
Auschwitz, or:
> 600,000 jews killed and not 6 Million, or: no planned killings
of jews by
> the German government etc) and publishes this in a book or in
some other
> form, then this person is put in jail? Looses his job? Destroys
his academic
> career? Dr. Stäglich lost his doctorate and his social security
pension for
> 5 years for writing his book 'The Auschwitz Trial'? And Thies
Christopherson
> and all the others punished, persecuted, placed in jail? Is
this the purpose
> of that law? And whatever these people come up with cannot be
discussed,
> debated, researched?
> There is a whole bunch of censored and burned books and
forbidden Internet
> sites listed on http://vho.org/censor/Censor.html , these are
forbidden in
> Germany but can freely be downloaded from that site.
> I remember when in Germany under Hitler books written by Jewish
authors were
> banned and burned in big bon-fires (was it in 1938?), and how
after the war
> the Germans were heavily critized for doing this,  and now they
are back to
> the same, the German Government that is? And not only burning
the books but
> puttingt the authors in jail? Using their §130?
> I am sorry fellows, I don't understand this anymore, I am lost.
>
>
>




"William Daffer"  wrote in message
news:m2wuzu63lq.fsf@ulysses.localdomain...
> Gord McFee  writes:
>
> > Kurt Knoll wrote:
> >
> > Oh, oh, Kurt made a funny.  Some explanations are in order.
> >
> > First, section 175 of the German penal code in the Nazi era
was the
> > section that made homosexuality a crime.
> >
> > > Hier ist das Gesetz Jefferey Brown.
> >
> > "This is the Jeffrey Brown law"
> >
> > > Paragraph 175
> >
> > "section 175"
> >
> > >  Stecke deinen Finger in den Arsch. Das reimt sich nich
aber es
> > > dichted.
> >
> > "Stick your finger in your arse.  It doesn't rhyme, but it is
poetic."
> >
> > I think Kurt meant to say "dichtet", but his ignorance is not
my
> > problem.
> >
> > It is a wordplay in German, since "dichten" means to write
poetry and
> > poetry usually rhymes.
> >
> > I am however unable to explain the root cause of Kurt's
insanity.
>
>
>   Nevertheless, thanks for the attempt!
>
> whd
> --
> Morghus claimed in
<73fedc95.0108070550.22d995aa@posting.google.com>
>
>   'Hoess claims it was possible to dispose of 10,000 bodies
right from
>   the beginning.'




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:24 EST 2002
Article: 1283715 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in
message news:jeffreygbrown-460E48.22535310122001@news.alt.net...
> In article <3c158006_2@binaries.vphos.net>, "Lying Shit Knoll"
>  wrote:

[deletia]

> To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility
Study", 1997




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:25 EST 2002
Article: 1283847 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.politics,us.politics
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Why does he have to be an Historian to write about the Holocaust.
And you mean only your historians
are the once to believed in.

Well I got news for you. Your type is form me any many others a
symbol of falsehood.
You can believe in your Historians as much as you want. For me I
do not trust you
if you pay me for it history will prove that.

Kurt Knoll.
=========
"Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
news:KRnR7.9796$Sj1.5092349@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> "Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
> > news:5LeR7.9211$Sj1.4842061@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > news:3c156f23_1@binaries.vphos.net...
> > >
> > >  "Philip Mathews"  wrote in
message
> > > > news:YAbR7.9164$Sj1.4692932@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > > > news:3c152e36_1@binaries.vphos.net...
> > > > > > You hit straight on the Nail. Germanys Histories is
> > written
> > > > by
> > > > > > the Victors and under Total Control by the Jews.
> > > > >
> > > > > Nonsense. Germany's history is written by many
historians,
> > from
> > > > a variety of
> > > > > nations, including many German historians.
> > > > >
> > > > > You really are a pathetic fool.
> > >
> > > > How is this possible.Some historians are not always
allowed
> > > > access to records if your
> > > > kind does not like it.
> > >
> > > Bullshit.
> > >
> > > Dozens of German historians have participated in the
writing of
> > German
> > > history during the war period and after.
> > >
> > > Save your idiocy for someone who might be stupid enough to
> > believe you.
>
> Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> news:3c15b1c8_2@binaries.vphos.net...
>
> > You are wrong again Mr. Wilhelm Staeglich wrote a book about
> > Auschwitz and was taken to court
> > over it. Also he was denied access to certain files many
other
> > histories researchers were denied
> > access to archives while jewie supporters did have access to
the
> > Archives.
>
> No, you are wrong again. Staeglich is not an historian.
Qualified scholars
> are admitted to archives, and many German scholars not only
have access to
> German archives, but maintain them.
>
> But since you don't even know the names of German historians of
the
> Holocaust, I guess I can't expect to much from you.
>
> --
> Philip Mathews
>
>
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:25 EST 2002
Article: 1283885 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.politics,us.politics
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Why does anyone have to be a Historian to be approved by you.
You can keep your sleazy slimy university maniacs for you self I
do not want this kind so do many others.

Try you sleacy ness on some one else I am not flabbergasted
especially if it comes to you two faced cook suckers.

You have no credibility never did have.

Kurt Knoll.
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> > > > > > > > You hit straight on the Nail. Germanys Histories
is
> >  written
> >  by
> > > > > > > > the Victors and under Total Control by the Jews.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Nonsense. Germany's history is written by many
> >  historians,
> >  from
> >  a variety of
> > > > > > > nations, including many German historians.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You really are a pathetic fool.
> >
> > > > > > How is this possible.Some historians are not always
> >  allowed
> > > > > > access to records if your
> > > > > > kind does not like it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bullshit.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dozens of German historians have participated in the
> >  writing of
> >  German
> > > > > history during the war period and after.
> > > > >
> > > > > Save your idiocy for someone who might be stupid enough
to
> > > > believe you.
> > >
> > > Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > news:3c15b1c8_2@binaries.vphos.net...
> > >
> > > > You are wrong again Mr. Wilhelm Staeglich wrote a book
about
> > > > Auschwitz and was taken to court
> > > > over it. Also he was denied access to certain files many
> >  other
> > > > histories researchers were denied
> > > > access to archives while jewie supporters did have access
to
> >  the
> > > > Archives.
> > >
> > > No, you are wrong again. Staeglich is not an historian.
> >  Qualified scholars
> > > are admitted to archives, and many German scholars not only
> >  have access to
> > > German archives, but maintain them.
> > >
> > > But since you don't even know the names of German
historians of
> >  the
> > > Holocaust, I guess I can't expect to much from you.
>
> > Why does he have to be an Historian to write about the
Holocaust.
>
> Try to keep up with your own nonsense. You raised the issue of
> historians not being able to use archives. I pointed out you
are
> wrong. You cite a non-historian as support for your statement.
When I
> point that out you change the point!
>
> > And you mean only your historians
> > are the once to believed in.
>
> I don't have any historians. Can you name a single German
historian
> denied access to the evidence contained in the archives of
Germany or
> any other nation? Yes or no?
>
> > Well I got news for you. Your type is form me any many others
a
> > symbol of falsehood.
> > You can believe in your Historians as much as you want. For
me I
> > do not trust you
> > if you pay me for it history will prove that.
>
> It's not a matter of "my" historians. The Holocaust is an
accepted
> historical event by all historians.
>
> --
> Philip Mathews




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:25 EST 2002
Article: 1283954 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Nothing changes I know an older Canadian who is very much
interested seeking the truth.
He just told me the other day in some places where he I trying to
get certain information he is
no longer welcome since the found out he is not on the holocaust
industries site. He gets
all kind of excuses and the material he is looking for is no
longer to be had.

Kurt Knoll.
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> > > > > > > > > > You hit straight on the Nail. Germanys
Histories
> > is
> > > >  written
> > > >  by
> > > > > > > > > > the Victors and under Total Control by the
Jews.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Nonsense. Germany's history is written by many
> > > >  historians,
> > > >  from
> > > >  a variety of
> > > > > > > > > nations, including many German historians.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > You really are a pathetic fool.
> > > >
> > > > > > > > How is this possible.Some historians are not
always
> > > >  allowed
> > > > > > > > access to records if your
> > > > > > > > kind does not like it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bullshit.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dozens of German historians have participated in
the
> > > >  writing of
> > > >  German
> > > > > > > history during the war period and after.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Save your idiocy for someone who might be stupid
enough
> > to
> > > > > > believe you.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > > > news:3c15b1c8_2@binaries.vphos.net...
> > > > >
> > > > > > You are wrong again Mr. Wilhelm Staeglich wrote a
book
> > about
> > > > > > Auschwitz and was taken to court
> > > > > > over it. Also he was denied access to certain files
many
> > > >  other
> > > > > > histories researchers were denied
> > > > > > access to archives while jewie supporters did have
access
> > to
> > > >  the
> > > > > > Archives.
> > > > >
> > > > > No, you are wrong again. Staeglich is not an historian.
> > > >  Qualified scholars
> > > > > are admitted to archives, and many German scholars not
only
> > > >  have access to
> > > > > German archives, but maintain them.
> > > > >
> > > > > But since you don't even know the names of German
> > historians of
> > > >  the
> > > > > Holocaust, I guess I can't expect to much from you.
> > >
> > > > Why does he have to be an Historian to write about the
> > Holocaust.
> > >
> > > Try to keep up with your own nonsense. You raised the issue
of
> > > historians not being able to use archives. I pointed out
you
> > are
> > > wrong. You cite a non-historian as support for your
statement.
> > When I
> > > point that out you change the point!
> > >
> > > > And you mean only your historians
> > > > are the once to believed in.
> > >
> > > I don't have any historians. Can you name a single German
> > historian
> > > denied access to the evidence contained in the archives of
> > Germany or
> > > any other nation? Yes or no?
> > >
> > > > Well I got news for you. Your type is form me any many
others
> > a
> > > > symbol of falsehood.
> > > > You can believe in your Historians as much as you want.
For
> > me I
> > > > do not trust you
> > > > if you pay me for it history will prove that.
> > >
> > > It's not a matter of "my" historians. The Holocaust is an
> > accepted
> > > historical event by all historians.
>
> > Why does anyone have to be a Historian to be approved by you.
>
> Who said they did?
>
>
> > You can keep your sleazy slimy university maniacs for you
self I
> > do not want this kind so do many others.
>
> Not all historians are academics.
> >
> > Try you sleacy ness on some one else I am not flabbergasted
> > especially if it comes to you two faced cook suckers.
>
> In other words, having all of your stupid objections answered
you'll resort
> to mumbling insults.
>
> I see you ran from the question which would demonstrate you
were talking out
> of your ass when you claimed that historians weren't able to
access
> archives?
>
> Can you name a single German historian denied access to the
evidence
> contained in the archives of
> Germany or any other nation? Yes or no?
>
> --
> Philip Mathews
>
>
>
>
>
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:26 EST 2002
Article: 1284023 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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You behave like a fuck head at the Nuremberg trial screaming and
yelling answer yes or know
when in reality you only have one goal and this is reach out and
screw someone.

Yesterday I connected to a web about the Claims Conference from
HA'ARETZ looks like they are coming now
for the third Refuel. In 1946 Germany was forced to pass a law
expropriating anyone who bought
Property from Jews before 1945. This was an Expropriation without
compensation many of the Jews sold
property to the neighbors. When returning after the war the
claimed they were forced to sell and Claimed
more then they ever did have.
Germany did pay compensation right after the war for slave Labor
but the money disappeared in
some Jewish Organizations. The last compensation was extorted
just this and last year.

Now there are Conflicting Claims about a new round. The
conference is now Claiming there are still
tens of thousand of properties in Germany.

Is this the 3rd helping or are you friend trying to expropriate
the expropriated ones.

Kurt Knoll.

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> > > > > > > > > > > > You hit straight on the Nail. Germanys
> > Histories
> > > > is
> > > > > >  written
> > > > > >  by
> > > > > > > > > > > > the Victors and under Total Control by
the
> > Jews.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Nonsense. Germany's history is written by
many
> > > > > >  historians,
> > > > > >  from
> > > > > >  a variety of
> > > > > > > > > > > nations, including many German historians.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > You really are a pathetic fool.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > How is this possible.Some historians are not
> > always
> > > > > >  allowed
> > > > > > > > > > access to records if your
> > > > > > > > > > kind does not like it.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Bullshit.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Dozens of German historians have participated
in
> > the
> > > > > >  writing of
> > > > > >  German
> > > > > > > > > history during the war period and after.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Save your idiocy for someone who might be
stupid
> > enough
> > > > to
> > > > > > > > believe you.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kurt Knoll"  wrote in
message
> > > > > > > news:3c15b1c8_2@binaries.vphos.net...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You are wrong again Mr. Wilhelm Staeglich wrote a
> > book
> > > > about
> > > > > > > > Auschwitz and was taken to court
> > > > > > > > over it. Also he was denied access to certain
files
> > many
> > > > > >  other
> > > > > > > > histories researchers were denied
> > > > > > > > access to archives while jewie supporters did
have
> > access
> > > > to
> > > > > >  the
> > > > > > > > Archives.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > No, you are wrong again. Staeglich is not an
historian.
> > > > > >  Qualified scholars
> > > > > > > are admitted to archives, and many German scholars
not
> > only
> > > > > >  have access to
> > > > > > > German archives, but maintain them.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But since you don't even know the names of German
> > > > historians of
> > > > > >  the
> > > > > > > Holocaust, I guess I can't expect to much from you.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Why does he have to be an Historian to write about
the
> > > > Holocaust.
> > > > >
> > > > > Try to keep up with your own nonsense. You raised the
issue
> > of
> > > > > historians not being able to use archives. I pointed
out
> > you
> > > > are
> > > > > wrong. You cite a non-historian as support for your
> > statement.
> > > > When I
> > > > > point that out you change the point!
> > > > >
> > > > > > And you mean only your historians
> > > > > > are the once to believed in.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't have any historians. Can you name a single
German
> > > > historian
> > > > > denied access to the evidence contained in the archives
of
> > > > Germany or
> > > > > any other nation? Yes or no?
> > > > >
> > > > > > Well I got news for you. Your type is form me any
many
> > others
> > > > a
> > > > > > symbol of falsehood.
> > > > > > You can believe in your Historians as much as you
want.
> > For
> > > > me I
> > > > > > do not trust you
> > > > > > if you pay me for it history will prove that.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's not a matter of "my" historians. The Holocaust is
an
> > > > accepted
> > > > > historical event by all historians.
> > >
> > > > Why does anyone have to be a Historian to be approved by
you.
> > >
> > > Who said they did?
> > >
> > >
> > > > You can keep your sleazy slimy university maniacs for you
> > self I
> > > > do not want this kind so do many others.
> > >
> > > Not all historians are academics.
> > > >
> > > > Try you sleacy ness on some one else I am not
flabbergasted
> > > > especially if it comes to you two faced cook suckers.
> > >
> > > In other words, having all of your stupid objections
answered
> > you'll resort
> > > to mumbling insults.
> > >
> > > I see you ran from the question which would demonstrate you
> > were talking out
> > > of your ass when you claimed that historians weren't able
to
> > access
> > > archives?
> > >
> > > Can you name a single German historian denied access to the
> > evidence
> > > contained in the archives of
> > > Germany or any other nation? Yes or no?
>
> > Nothing changes I know an older Canadian
>
> I'm not interested in your stupid stories.
>
> Answer the question.
>
> Can you name a single German historian denied access to the
> evidence contained in the archives of Germany or any other
nation? Yes or
> no?
>
> --
> Philip Mathews
>
>
>
>
>
>




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Did you go for a leak yes or no. If no please give details Full
Name and Rank Male or Female
or Both date of Birth (This one is important are you alive or are
you faking)
When was the last time you took Listerine. Do you know what a
French Save (Contraceptive) looks like
Your Dad must have made a mistake not using one that's why you
are here.


Kurt Knoll.
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"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in
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> > You behave like a fuck head
>
> Can you name a single German historian denied access to the
evidence contained
> in the archives of Germany or any other nation? Yes or no?
>
> Run away again, Kurtsie...
>
> JGB
>
>
=================================================================
====
> Jeffrey G. Brown
jeffreygbrown@mailandnews.com
> For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what
it means
> to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so
simple.
> To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility
Study", 1997




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:26 EST 2002
Article: 1284041 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Yes. Me.

Kurt Knoll.
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"Werner Knoll"  wrote in message
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>
> Philip Mathews wrote:
> >
> > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > news:3c16a9ce_2@binaries.vphos.net...
> >
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> > > > Can you name a single German historian denied access to
the
> > > evidence
> > > > contained in the archives of
> > > > Germany or any other nation? Yes or no?
> >
> > > Nothing changes I know an older Canadian
> >
> > I'm not interested in your stupid stories.
>
> You should be interested in what he is saying because he was in
Baghdad
> when you were semen in your fathers balls!
>
>
>
>
> >
> > Answer the question.
> >
> > Can you name a single German historian denied access to the
> > evidence contained in the archives of Germany or any other
nation? Yes or
> > no?
> >
> > --
> > Philip Mathews
>
> Ask Udo Walendy a German writer and historian if he still has
access to
> German archives after he produced a tape on the proceeding in
Krakau
> from 1958 in which the number of killed in Auschwitz are
300,000
>
> Source: Kanada Kurier 14. Dezember 2000
>
> It is high time for people in Germany to send all their
lawmaker to
> Israel so Saddam can take care of them.
>
> Werner Knoll
> Whom Jewish Organizations seek to destroy, the send Jeffrey G.
Brown,
> Ken McVay's stooge and fart after




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:27 EST 2002
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From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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You are a little bit naive. What Kenneth McVay does is practicing
hate by discrediting all that
want revision. As for your Gas Vans you are wrong again provide
proof not hearsay.

Kurt Knoll.
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"Duncan (Dhu) Campbell on Babayaga.neotext.ca"
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> In article <3C14F8B4.DCFAC943@hers.com>,
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> >
> >
> > Kurt Knoll wrote:
> >
> >>  "Hate propaganda is an attack on the truth-seeking process
itself.
> >> It is directed to subverting and undermining the search for
truth."
> >>                                 (David Matas, Bloody Speech,
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> >
> > Thank you for admitting it.
> > Tho' I am somewhat surprised that you have the hots for
Nizkor.
> > Brave of you to admit that as well.
> >
>
> Yeah, I've noted the Knolls gettin' positively sweaty when they
talk
> about this stuff.  'Specially the way they go on about those
gas
> vans that didn't work out.  That was a side show, but I'd be
willing
> to bet these guys get off on uniforms and glad bags, or
something.
>
> Dhu
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:28 EST 2002
Article: 1284099 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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I have read book by authors  who were denied access to archives.
And did have finding
publisher who were brave enough to publish their Book. Because of
the Blackmail by the Jewish lobby.

The books were about the holocaust and the second world war.
Historians do not have a monopoly here
the are you finks not ours. Stick em up your ass tats were they
belong.

Kurt Knoll.
==========

and here is your Jewish soap so you wont come with this one
again.

'Jewish soap'

by Mark Weber

One of the most lurid and slanderous Holocaust claims is the
story that the

Germans manufactured soap from the bodies of their victims.
Although a
similar charge during the First World War was exposed as a hoax
almost
immediately afterwards, it was nevertheless revived and widely
believed
during the Second. More important, this accusation was "proved"
at the main

Nuremberg trial of 1945-1946, and has been authoritatively
endorsed by
numerous historians in the decades since. In recent years,
though, as part
of a broad retreat from the most obviously untenable aspects of
the
"orthodox" extermination story, Holocaust historians have
grudgingly
conceded that the human soap tale is a wartime propaganda lie. In
their
retreat, though, these historians have tried to dismiss the soap
story as a

mere wartime "rumor," neglecting to mention that international
Jewish
organizations and then Allied governments endorsed and sanctioned
this
libelous canard.

Wartime rumors that the Germans were manufacturing soap from the
corpses of

slaughtered Jews were based in part on the fact that soap bars
distributed
by German authorities in Jewish ghettos and camps bore the
impressed
initials "RIF," which many took to stand for "Rein juedisches
Fett" or
"Pure
Jewish Fat." (It did not seem to matter that the letters were
"RIF" and not

"RJF.") These rumors spread so widely in 1941 and 1942 that by
late 1942
German authorities in Poland and Slovakia were expressing
official concern
about their impact.

According to a Polish source quoted in a secret wartime U.S. Army
military
intelligence report, for example, the Germans were operating a
"human soap
factory" in 1941 at Turek, Poland. "The Germans had brought
thousands of
Polish teachers, priests and Jews there and after extracting the
blood
serum
>from their bodies, had thrown them on large pots and melted off
grease to
make soap," the intelligence report added.

Macabre "Jewish soap" jokes became popular in the ghettos and
camps, and
many non-Jews on the outside came to believe the story. When
trains loaded
with Jewish deportees stopped temporarily at rail stations, Poles
reportedly
would gleefully shout at them: "Jews to soap!" Even British
prisoners of
war
interned at Auschwitz in 1944 testified later about the wartime
rumors that

corpses of gassing victims were being turned into soap there.

In spite of its inherently incredible character, the soap story
became an
important feature of Jewish and Allied war propaganda. Rabbi
Stephen S.
Wise, wartime head of both the World Jewish Congress and the
American
Jewish
Congress, publicly charged in November 1942 that Jewish corpses
were being
"processed into such war-vital commodities as soap, fats and
fertilizer" by

the Germans. He further announced that the Germans were "even
exhuming the
dead for the value of the corpses," and were paying fifty marks
for each
body.

In late 1942, the Congress Weekly, published by the American
Jewish
Congress, editorialized that the Germans were turning Jews "by
scientific
methods of dissolution into fertilizer, soap and glue." An
article in the
same issue reported that Jewish deportees from France and Holland
were
being
processed into "soap, glue and train oil" in at least two special
factories

in Germany. Typical of many other American periodicals, the
influential New

Republic reported in early 1943 that the Germans were "using the
bodies of
their Jewish victims to make soap and fertilizer in a factory at
Siedlce."

During June and July 1943, two prominent representatives of the
Moscow-based
"Jewish Anti-Fascist Committee" toured the United States and
raised more
than two million dollars for the Soviet war effort at a series of
mass
meetings. At each of these rallies, Soviet Jewish leader Solomon
Mikhoels
showed the crowd a bar of soap that he said was made from Jewish
corpses.

After the war the soap story was given important legitimacy at
the main
Nuremberg trial. L. N. Smirnov, Chief Counsellor of Justice for
the USSR,
declared to the Tribunal:

     ... The same base, rationalized SS technical minds which
created
     gas chambers and murder vans, began devising such methods of
     complete annihilation of human bodies, which would not only
     conceal the traces of their crimes, but also to serve in the
     manufacturing of certain products. In the Danzig Anatomical
     Institute, semi-industrial experiments in the production of
soap
     from human bodies and the tanning of human skin for
industrial
     purposes were carried out.

Smirnov quoted at length from an affidavit by Sigmund Mazur, an
Institute
employee, which was accepted as Nuremberg exhibit USSR-197. It
alleged that

Dr. Rudolf Spanner, the head of the Danzig Institute, had ordered
the
production of soap from corpses in 1943. According to Mazur's
affidavit,
Dr.
Spanner's operation was of interest to high-ranking German
officials.
Education Minister Bernhard Rust and Health Leader Dr. Leonardo
Conti, as
well as professors from other medical institutes, came to witness
Spanner's

efforts. Mazur also claimed to have used the "human soap" to wash
himself
and his laundry.

A human soap "recipe," allegedly prepared by Dr. Spanner
(Nuremberg
document
USSR-196), was also presented. Finally, a sample of what was
supposed to be

a piece of "human soap" was submitted to the Nuremberg Tribunal
as exhibit
USSR-393.

In his closing address to the Tribunal, chief British prosecutor
Sir
Hartley
Shawcross echoed his Soviet colleague: "On occasion, even the
bodies of
their victims were used to make good the wartime shortage of
soap." And in
their final judgment, the Nuremberg Tribunal judges found that
"attempts
were made to utilize the fat from the bodies of the victims in
the
commercial manufacture of soap."

It is worth emphasizing here that the "evidence" presented at the
Nuremberg

Tribunal for the bogus soap story was no less substantial than
the
"evidence" presented for the claims of mass extermination in "gas
chambers."
At least in the former case, an actual sample of soap supposedly
made from
corpses was submitted in evidence.

After the war, supposed Holocaust victims were solemnly buried,
in the form

of soap bars, in Jewish cemeteries. In 1948, for example, four
such bars
wrapped in a funeral shroud were ceremoniously buried according
to Jewish
religious ritual at the Haifa cemetery in Israel. Other bars of
"Jewish
soap" have been displayed as grim Holocaust relics at the Jewish
Historical

Institute in Warsaw, the Stutthof Museum near Gdansk (Danzig),
the Yivo
Institute in New York, the Holocaust Museum in Philadelphia, the
Jewish
Holocaust Centre in Melbourne (Australia), and at various
locations in
Israel.

Numerous Jews who lived in German ghettos and camps during the
war helped
keep the soap story alive many years later. Ben Edelbaum, for
example,
wrote
in his 1980 memoir Growing Up in the Holocaust:

     Often with our rations in the ghettos, the Germans had
included a
     bar of soap branded with initials R.J.F. which came to be
known as
     "RIF" soap. It wasn't until the war had ended that we
learned the
     horrible truth about the bar of soap. Had we known in the
ghetto,
     every bar of "RIF" soap would have been accorded a sacred
Jewish
     funeral in the cemetery at Marysin. As it was, we were
completely
     oblivious to its origin and used the bones and flesh of our
     murdered loved ones to wash our bodies.

Nesse Godin was transferred from a ghetto in Lithuania to the
Stutthof
concentration camp in the spring of 1944. In a 1983 interview,
she recalled

her arrival there:

     That day they gave us a shower and a piece of soap. After
the war
     we found out the soap was made out of pure Jew fat, Rein
Juden
     Fett, marked in the initials on the soap that I washed with.
For
     all I know sometimes maybe there was a little bit of my
father's
     fat in that soap that I washed with. How do you think I feel
when
     I think about that?

Mel Mermelstein, the former Auschwitz inmate who was featured in
the
sensationalized April 1991 cable television movie "Never Forget"
(and who
sued the Institute for Historical Review and three other
defendants for $11

million), declared in a 1981 sworn deposition that he and other
camp
inmates
used soap bars made from human fat. It was an "established fact,"
he
insisted, that the soap he washed with was made from Jewish
bodies.

Renowned "Nazi hunter" Simon Wiesenthal repeated the soap tale in
a series
of articles published in 1946 in the Austrian Jewish community
paper Der
Neue Weg. In the first of these he wrote:

     During the last weeks of March the Romanian press reported
an
     unusual piece of news: In the small Romanian city of
Folticeni
     twenty boxes of soap were buried in the Jewish cemetery with
full
     ceremony and complete funeral rites. This soap had been
found
     recently in a former German army depot. On the boxes were
the
     initials RIF, "Pure Jewish Fat." These boxes were destined
for the
     Waffen-SS. The wrapping paper revealed with completely
cynical
     objectivity that this soap was manufactured from Jewish
bodies.
     Surprisingly, the thorough Germans forgot to describe
whether the
     soap was produced from children, girls, men or elderly
persons.

Wiesenthal went on:

     After 1942 people in the General Government [Poland] knew
quite
     well what the RIF soap meant. The civilized world may not
believe
     the joy with which the Nazis and their women in the General
     Government thought of this soap. In each piece of soap they
saw a
     Jew who had been magically put there, and had thus been
prevented
     from growing into a second Freud, Ehrlich or Einstein.

In another article he observed: "The production of soap from
human fat is
so
unbelievable that even some who were in concentration camps find
it
difficult to comprehend."

Over the years, numerous supposedly reputable historians have
promoted the
durable soap story. Journalist-historian William L. Shirer, for
example,
repeated it in his best-selling work, The Rise and Fall of the
Third Reich.

Leading Soviet war propagandist Ilya Ehrenburg wrote in his
postwar memoir:

"I have held in my hand a cake of soap stamped with the legend
'pure Jewish

soap', prepared from the corpses of people who had been
destroyed. But
there
is no need to speak of these things: thousands of books have been
written
about them."

A standard history studies textbook used in Canadian secondary
schools,
Canada: The Twentieth Century, told students that the Germans
"boiled" the
corpses of their Jewish victims "to make soap." The Anatomy of
Nazism, a
booklet published and distributed by the Zionist "Anti-Defamation
League"
of
B'nai B'rith, stated: "The process of brutalization did not end
with the
mass murders themselves. Large quantities of soap were
manufactured from
the
corpses of those murdered."

A detailed 1981 work, Hitler's Death Camps, repeated the soap
story in
lurid
detail. While noting that "some historians claim that the Nazi
manufacture
of soap from human fat is just a grim rumor," author Konnilyn
Feig
nevertheless accepted the story because "most East European camp
scholars
... validate the soap stories, and other kinds of bars made from
humans are

displayed in Eastern Europe -- I have seen many over the years."

New York Rabbi Arthur Schneier repeated the tale at the opening
ceremony of

the largest Holocaust meeting in history. In his invocation to
the
"American
Gathering of Jewish Holocaust Survivors," held in Washington in
April 1983,

the Rabbi solemnly declared: "We remember the bars of soap with
the
initials
RJF -- Rein jdisches Fett, Pure Jewish Fat -- made from the
bodies of our
loved ones."

In spite of all the apparently impressive evidence, the charge
that the
Germans manufactured soap from human beings is a falsehood, as
Holocaust
historians are now belatedly acknowledging. The "RIF" soap bar
initials
that
supposedly stood for "Pure Jewish Fat" actually indicated nothing
more
sinister than "Reich Center for Industrial Fat Provisioning"
("Reichsstelle

fr Industrielle Fettversorgung"), a German agency responsible for
wartime
production and distribution of soap and washing products. RIF
soap was a
poor quality substitute that contained no fat at all, human or
otherwise.

Shortly after the war the public prosecutor's office of
Flensburg, Germany,

began legal proceedings against Dr. Rudolf Spanner for his
alleged role in
producing human soap at the Danzig Institute. But after an
investigation
the
charge was quietly dropped. In a January 1968 letter, the office
stated
that
its inquiry had determined that no soap from human corpses was
made at the
Danzig Institute during the war.

More recently, Jewish historian Walter Laqueur "denied
established history"

by acknowledging in his 1980 book, The Terrible Secret, that the
human soap

story has no basis in reality. Gitta Sereny, another Jewish
historian,
noted
in her book Into That Darkness: "The universally accepted story
that the
corpses were used to make soap and fertilizer is finally refuted
by the
generally very reliable Ludwigsburg Central Authority for
Investigation
into
Nazi Crimes."

Deborah Lipstadt, a professor of modern Jewish history, similarly
"rewrote
history" when she confirmed in 1981: "The fact is that the Nazis
never used

the bodies of Jews, or for that matter anyone else, for the
production of
soap."

In April 1990, professor Yehuda Bauer of Israel's Hebrew
University,
regarded as a leading Holocaust historian, as well as Shmuel
Krakowski,
archives director of Israel's Yad Vashem Holocaust center,
confirmed that
the human soap story is not true. Camp inmates "were prepared to
believe
any
horror stories about their persecutors," Bauer said. At the same
time,
though, he had the chutzpah to blame the legend on "the Nazis."

In fact, blame for the soap story lies rather with individuals
such as
Simon
Wiesenthal and Stephen Wise, organizations like the World Jewish
Congress,
and the victorious Allied powers, none of whom has ever
apologized for
promoting this vile falsehood.

Why did Bauer and Krakowski decide that this was the appropriate
time to
officially abandon the soap story? Krakowski himself hints that a
large
part
of the motivation for this "tactical retreat" has been to save
what's left
of the sinking Holocaust ship by throwing overboard the most
obvious
falsehoods. In the face of the growing Revisionist challenge,
easily
demonstrable falsehoods like the soap story have become dangerous
embarrassments because they raise doubts about the entire
Holocaust legend.

As Krakowski put it: "Historians have concluded that soap was not
made from

human fat. When so many people deny the Holocaust ever happened,
why give
them something to use against the truth?"

The bad faith of those making this calculated and belated
concession to
truth is shown by their failure to note that the soap myth was
authoritatively "confirmed" at Nuremberg, and by their
unwillingness to
deal
with the implications of that confirmation for the credibility of
the
Tribunal and other supposedly trustworthy authorities in
establishing
other,
more fundamental aspects of the Holocaust story.

The striking contrast between the prompt postwar disavowal by the
British
government of the infamous "human soap" lie of the First World
War, and the

way in which a similarly baseless propaganda story from the
Second World
War
was officially endorsed by the victorious Allied powers and then

authoritatively maintained for so many years not only points up
the
dispiriting lack of integrity on the part of so many Western
historians,
but
underscores the general decline in Western ethical standards
during this
century.

The "human soap" story demonstrates anew the tremendous impact
that a
wartime rumor, no matter how fantastic, can have once it has
taken hold,
particularly when it is disseminated as a propaganda lie by
influential
individuals and powerful organizations. That so many intelligent
and
otherwise thoughtful people could ever have seriously believed
that the
Germans distributed bars of soap brazenly labeled with letters
indicating
that they were manufactured from Jewish corpses shows how readily
even the
most absurd Holocaust fables can be -- and are -- accepted as
fact.

  ---------------------------------------------------------------
---------

Mark Weber is editor of The Journal of Historical Review,
published six
times yearly by the Institute for Historical Review. He studied
history at
the University of Illinois (Chicago), the University of Munich,
Portland
State University, and Indiana University (M.A., 1977). For five
days in
March 1988, he testified as a recognized expert witness on the
"final
solution" and the Holocaust issue in a Toronto District Court
case. He is
the author of many published articles, reviews and essays on
various
aspects
of modern European history. Weber has appeared as a guest on
numerous radio

talk shows, and on the nationally-syndicated "Montel Williams"
television
show.

  ---------------------------------------------------------------
---------


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> > > > > > > >  written
> > > > > > > >  by
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Victors and under Total Control
by
> > the
> > > > Jews.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Nonsense. Germany's history is written
by
> > many
> > > > > > > >  historians,
> > > > > > > >  from
> > > > > > > >  a variety of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > nations, including many German
historians.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > You really are a pathetic fool.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > How is this possible.Some historians are
not
> > > > always
> > > > > > > >  allowed
> > > > > > > > > > > > access to records if your
> > > > > > > > > > > > kind does not like it.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Bullshit.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Dozens of German historians have
participated
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > > > >  writing of
> > > > > > > >  German
> > > > > > > > > > > history during the war period and after.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Save your idiocy for someone who might be
> > stupid
> > > > enough
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > believe you.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Kurt Knoll"  wrote in
> > message
> > > > > > > > > news:3c15b1c8_2@binaries.vphos.net...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > You are wrong again Mr. Wilhelm Staeglich
wrote a
> > > > book
> > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > > > Auschwitz and was taken to court
> > > > > > > > > > over it. Also he was denied access to certain
> > files
> > > > many
> > > > > > > >  other
> > > > > > > > > > histories researchers were denied
> > > > > > > > > > access to archives while jewie supporters did
> > have
> > > > access
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > >  the
> > > > > > > > > > Archives.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > No, you are wrong again. Staeglich is not an
> > historian.
> > > > > > > >  Qualified scholars
> > > > > > > > > are admitted to archives, and many German
scholars
> > not
> > > > only
> > > > > > > >  have access to
> > > > > > > > > German archives, but maintain them.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > But since you don't even know the names of
German
> > > > > > historians of
> > > > > > > >  the
> > > > > > > > > Holocaust, I guess I can't expect to much from
you.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Why does he have to be an Historian to write
about
> > the
> > > > > > Holocaust.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Try to keep up with your own nonsense. You raised
the
> > issue
> > > > of
> > > > > > > historians not being able to use archives. I
pointed
> > out
> > > > you
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > > wrong. You cite a non-historian as support for your
> > > > statement.
> > > > > > When I
> > > > > > > point that out you change the point!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > And you mean only your historians
> > > > > > > > are the once to believed in.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I don't have any historians. Can you name a single
> > German
> > > > > > historian
> > > > > > > denied access to the evidence contained in the
archives
> > of
> > > > > > Germany or
> > > > > > > any other nation? Yes or no?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Well I got news for you. Your type is form me any
> > many
> > > > others
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > symbol of falsehood.
> > > > > > > > You can believe in your Historians as much as you
> > want.
> > > > For
> > > > > > me I
> > > > > > > > do not trust you
> > > > > > > > if you pay me for it history will prove that.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It's not a matter of "my" historians. The Holocaust
is
> > an
> > > > > > accepted
> > > > > > > historical event by all historians.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Why does anyone have to be a Historian to be approved
by
> > you.
> > > > >
> > > > > Who said they did?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > You can keep your sleazy slimy university maniacs for
you
> > > > self I
> > > > > > do not want this kind so do many others.
> > > > >
> > > > > Not all historians are academics.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Try you sleacy ness on some one else I am not
> > flabbergasted
> > > > > > especially if it comes to you two faced cook suckers.
> > > > >
> > > > > In other words, having all of your stupid objections
> > answered
> > > > you'll resort
> > > > > to mumbling insults.
> > > > >
> > > > > I see you ran from the question which would demonstrate
you
> > > > were talking out
> > > > > of your ass when you claimed that historians weren't
able
> > to
> > > > access
> > > > > archives?
> > > > >
> > > > > Can you name a single German historian denied access to
the
> > > > evidence
> > > > > contained in the archives of
> > > > > Germany or any other nation? Yes or no?
> > >
> > > > Nothing changes I know an older Canadian
> > >
> > > I'm not interested in your stupid stories.
> > >
> > > Answer the question.
> > >
> > > Can you name a single German historian denied access to the
> > > evidence contained in the archives of Germany or any other
> > nation? Yes or
>
> > You behave like a fuck head at the Nuremberg trial screaming
and
> > yelling answer yes or know
> > when in reality you only have one goal and this is reach out
and
> > screw someone.
>
> And you only have one goal, which is hide the fact that you
lied when you
> said historians were denied access to evidence.
>
> Now answer the question you despicable little coward.
>
> Can you name a single German historian denied access to the
> evidence contained in the archives of Germany or any other
> nation? Yes or no?
>
> And when you don't answer again you'll only confirm that you
had no point
> from the very beginning.
>
> --
> Philip Mathews
>
>
>
>
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:28 EST 2002
Article: 1284100 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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I know Walendy is not a Jew ?.
Is this the reason why he does not know anything, arend you using
your same dirty approach
on all the others if the are not Jewish or Jewish supporters.

Kurt Knoll.
===========
"Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
news:EoBR7.10250$Sj1.5590004@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> "Werner Knoll"  wrote in message
> news:3C16D7F4.F99BCCC1@telus.net...
> > Philip Mathews wrote:
> > >
> > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > news:3c16a9ce_2@binaries.vphos.net...
>
> > > > > Can you name a single German historian denied access to
the
> > > > evidence
> > > > > contained in the archives of
> > > > > Germany or any other nation? Yes or no?
> > >
> > > > Nothing changes I know an older Canadian
> > >
> > > I'm not interested in your stupid stories.
> >
> > You should be interested in what he is saying because he was
in Baghdad
> > when you were semen in your fathers balls!
>
> He's an idiot.
>
> > > Answer the question.
> > >
> > > Can you name a single German historian denied access to the
> > > evidence contained in the archives of Germany or any other
nation? Yes
> or
> > > no?
>
> > Ask Udo Walendy a German writer and historian
>
> Walendy is not an historian. Stop lying. He's a crackpot.
>
> No answer for the question I see!
>
> > It is high time for people in Germany to send all their
lawmaker to
> > Israel so Saddam can take care of them.
>
> Germans don't need advice from scum like you. Germans recoil in
disgust from
> your type.
>
> --
> Philip Mathews
>
>
>
>
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:29 EST 2002
Article: 1284632 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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You mean anyone who writes about the second world war must be a
historian proofed by you.

I know in your holohoax movies you write your own script. You
want all the writers
who write about the holocaust to use your scrip to qualify.

Now is a typical Jewish way to deceive the public.

Just remember the more you lie the more I and others will search
for the truth. And the
more we find out the more crocked you look.

Kurt Knoll.
==========
"Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
news:gsIR7.10278$Sj1.5771377@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> news:3c1734c6_1@binaries.vphos.net...
> > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in
message
>
> > news:EoBR7.10250$Sj1.5590004@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > > "Werner Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > news:3C16D7F4.F99BCCC1@telus.net...
> > > > Philip Mathews wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > > > news:3c16a9ce_2@binaries.vphos.net...
> > >
> > > > > > > Can you name a single German historian denied
access to
> > the
> > > > > > evidence
> > > > > > > contained in the archives of
> > > > > > > Germany or any other nation? Yes or no?
> > > > >
> > > > > > Nothing changes I know an older Canadian
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm not interested in your stupid stories.
> > > >
> > > > You should be interested in what he is saying because he
was
> > in Baghdad
> > > > when you were semen in your fathers balls!
> > >
> > > He's an idiot.
> > >
> > > > > Answer the question.
> > > > >
> > > > > Can you name a single German historian denied access to
the
> > > > > evidence contained in the archives of Germany or any
other
> > nation? Yes
> > > or
> > > > > no?
> > >
> > > > Ask Udo Walendy a German writer and historian
> > >
> > > Walendy is not an historian. Stop lying. He's a crackpot.
> > >
> > > No answer for the question I see!
> > >
> > > > It is high time for people in Germany to send all their
> > lawmaker to
> > > > Israel so Saddam can take care of them.
> > >
> > > Germans don't need advice from scum like you. Germans
recoil in
> > disgust from
> > > your type.
>
> > I know Walendy is not a Jew ?.
>
> Well at least you know one thing.
>
> > Is this the reason why he does not know anything, arend you
using
> > your same dirty approach
> > on all the others if the are not Jewish or Jewish supporters.
>
> He's not an historian, and thus citing him fails to support
your original
> claim.
>
> --
> Philip Mathews
>
>
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:29 EST 2002
Article: 1287599 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.politics,us.politics
References: 
Subject: Re: Bin Laden tape a forgery?
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If America wants someone they will work on it even if it means
cheating and lying.

My questions are:

Where was the exact location the tape was made ?.

What was the Date and time the Tape was made ?.

Was the background noise on the original or was it added latter.

Why did the cut & paste and edit take so long. Was it to doctor
it around till it almost becomes believable.

If Bin Laden Ever get captured will we the public ever get to
hear the truth. Will anyone ever be
allowed to verify the Facts ?.

Kurt Knoll.
===========
"Mike Kalvatis"  wrote in message
news:au2i1ughh1j7ls82oakkf2k9q8fj66oqt1@4ax.com...
> It sure took them a long time to put it out. I am sure it is
edited
> heavily and according to some sources it is a forgery.
>
> CAIRO, Egypt -- The father of Mohammed Atta dismissed as a
"forgery" a
> videotape released Thursday in which Osama bin Laden calls his
son the
> leader of the Sept. 11 suicide hijackers.
>
> The father, Mohamed al-Amir al-Sayed Awad Atta, said in a
telephone
> interview with The Associated Press that he had not seen the
tape, but
> declared it a "farce. All this is a forgery, a fabrication!"
>
> "The whole world has been saying this name (Mohammed Atta).
Where did
> bin Laden get the name from? Bin Laden got it from America,"
Atta
> said.
>
> According to the translation of the tape, which was released by
the
> United States on Thursday, bin Laden identifies Atta as being
"in
> charge of the group."
>
> U.S. investigators believe that Atta was the ringleader behind
the
> hijackings of the four passenger planes that crashed into the
World
> Trade Center, the Pentagon and a Pennsylvanian field.
>
> The elder Atta, a 65-year-old retired lawyer, has repeatedly
denied
> his son's involvement in the terrorist attacks that killed
thousands
> and sparked the U.S.-led war against terrorism.
>
> He has said his son might have been kidnapped and his papers
stolen to
> implicate him in the attacks. He has also claimed to have
spoken to
> his son by telephone after Sept. 11.
>
> "America is the land of aberration and forgery," the father
said,
> shouting "damn America!" before abruptly hanging up.
>
> Atta, 33, is believed to have been at the controls of American
> Airlines Flight 11 when it hit the World Trade Center and has
been
> linked to hijackers on two of the three other planes.
>
> Investigators say Atta was part of a terrorist cell in Hamburg,
> Germany, and received flight training in Florida.
>
> In the months before the attack, he met with Islamic extremists
in
> Spain, inquired about crop-dusters in Florida, conferred with
an Iraqi
> intelligence agent in Europe and skipped a court date in
Florida for
> driving without a license.
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:29 EST 2002
Article: 1287605 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Kolthoff to bist aus Hamburg gar nicht so schlecht das is besser den
eine Sau Preuse aus Berlin.
Aber sei vorsichtig wie du dich benemhst wen du mit mir sprichts.

Kolthoff is from Hamburg well this is a little bit better then from
Berlin.
But be careful Kolthoff how you address me ?.

Kurt Knoll.
=========
"Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
news:3c191dbd_2@binaries.vphos.net...
> Ein Hoaxter ist ein witz. Ein witz ist es wen leute wie du
> und McVay uns euere witze aufbinden.
>
> In English Albrecht Kolthoff and Kenneth McVay are nothing
> but a Hoax.
>
> Kurt Knoll.
> =====================
> "Albrecht Kolthoff"  wrote in message
> news:SSYP3733420718@sisyphus.ping.de...
> > Fabian wrote:
> >
> > >Kolthoff? A good Russian name.
> >
> > Not really. The origin of the name is in Westphalia, and
> while it is not a
> > common name, nowadays it is mostly to be encountered in
> Northern Germany.
> > There is a number of people with this name in the
> Netherlands and in
> > Sweden, where there has been an emigration to Sweden
> during and following
> > the Thirty Years War (1618 - 1648). Most probably this has
> to do with a
> > Protestant affiliation of this family.
> >
> > > Probably speaks German with a heavy German
> > >accent.
> >
> > While it sounds reasonable to speak it's own mother tongue
> with an
> > appropriate accent, it is somewhat different in Germany:
> people usually
> > don't speak with an accent, but they speak regional
> dialect.
> >
> > >Herr Kolthoff: Thanks for the message.
> >
> > You're welcome.
> >
> > > I did not receive it earlier: I had
> > >you 'block sendered'. A couple of weeks ago you posted
> the same thing over
> > >and over again, maybe a hundred times. Anyone who does
> this is either
> > >infantile or suffers from signs of early senility. So I
> filtered you out.
> > >Maybe I should put you back on?
> >
> > You obviously already did such a thing.
> >
> > >fge
> > >Kurt:  Du schiebst den Hoaxsnter aber ganz schoen eines
> unters Hemd. Und die
> > >merken das nicht mal!
> >
> > Watt meinze gezz mit Hoaxster, sachma?
> >
> > --
> > Albrecht Kolthoff
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:30 EST 2002
Article: 1287641 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Well Jeffery you do it all the time maybe you gave them instruction how
to do it you are the expert.

Kurt Knoll.
======
"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
news:jeffreygbrown-6AA532.19155513122001@news.alt.net...
> In article <3c1910b9_1@binaries.vphos.net>, "Lying Shit Knoll"
>  wrote:
>
> > Why did the cut & paste and edit take so long.
>
> What evidence do you have that the tape was edited at all, imbecile?
>
> JGB
>
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown
jeffreygbrown@mailandnews.com
> For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
> to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
> To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study",
1997




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:30 EST 2002
Article: 1287661 of alt.revisionism
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Brownshit you are lying again. I would like to have this CD but only if
I can compare it
with the Original Court Documents.

Kurt Knoll.
=============
"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
news:jeffreygbrown-CF1DFE.20200113122001@news.alt.net...
> In article <3c194889$1_2@binaries.vphos.net>, "Kurt Knoll"
>  wrote:
>
> > Why should I order this CD
>
> Translation: Kurt Knoll is afraid of examining the record of the
testimony at
> Nuremburg.
>
> It prefers to remain ignorant.
>
> JGB
>
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown
jeffreygbrown@mailandnews.com
> For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
> to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
> To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study",
1997




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:32 EST 2002
Article: 1287662 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.politics,us.politics
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If you had listened to CNN were it said a couple of time they are not
finished editing jet.

Kurt Knoll.
==========
"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
news:jeffreygbrown-BD925E.20154913122001@news.alt.net...
> In article <3c1947dc$1_2@binaries.vphos.net>, "Lying Shit Knoll"
>  wrote:
>
> > Well Jeffery you do it all the time maybe you gave them instruction
how
> > to do it you are the expert.
>
> What evidence do you have that the tape was edited at all, imbecile?
>
> JGB
>
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown
jeffreygbrown@mailandnews.com
> For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
> to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
> To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study",
1997




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:32 EST 2002
Article: 1287672 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Brownshit is getting excited.

He really get a kick out of it. There is another one he ask me to visit
the Nizkor web site
and read what Kenneth McFuck wrote.

Well it would do Kenneth a lot of good if he changes his style of
writing. Most people when they
get in to it and read it but at the end of reading his twist the are
just as smart as the started out.

Boy what a waste.

Kurt Knoll.
=============
"Mike Kalvatis"  wrote in message
news:seni1uc94b5igpe4toe5pp1d5jpb012pcp@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 17:46:34 -0800, "Kurt Knoll"
>  wrote:
>
> >If you had listened to CNN were it said a couple of time they are not
> >finished editing jet.
>
> The bot never lets facts get in the way of calling you a liar
>
> >
> >Kurt Knoll.
> >==========
> >"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
> >news:jeffreygbrown-BD925E.20154913122001@news.alt.net...
> >> In article <3c1947dc$1_2@binaries.vphos.net>, "Lying Shit Knoll"
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >> > Well Jeffery you do it all the time maybe you gave them
instruction
> >how
> >> > to do it you are the expert.
> >>
> >> What evidence do you have that the tape was edited at all,
imbecile?
> >>
> >> JGB
> >>
> >>
=====================================================================
> >> Jeffrey G. Brown
> >jeffreygbrown@mailandnews.com
> >> For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it
means
> >> to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so
simple.
> >> To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study",
> >1997
> >
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:32 EST 2002
Article: 1287688 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Well Brownshit the CNN said they are not finished editing, what does it
mean to you Brownshit.

Kurt Knoll.
===========
"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
news:jeffreygbrown-9C6A61.21212813122001@news.alt.net...
> In article <3c195a57$1_2@binaries.vphos.net>, "Lying Shit Knoll"
>  wrote:
>
> > If you had listened to CNN were it said a couple of time they are
not
> > finished editing jet.
>
> What evidence do you have that the tape was edited at all, imbecile?
>
> JGB
>
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown
jeffreygbrown@mailandnews.com
> For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
> to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
> To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study",
1997




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:33 EST 2002
Article: 1287694 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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If this was not the full version then it must be an edited version.
Or did it come with the caption on the bottom of the screen well in this
case it is a miracle.

Kurt Knoll.

"Orac"  wrote in message
news:Orac-A21990.21234313122001@news2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
> In article ,
>  Mike Kalvatis  wrote:
>
> > There are many questions about this "tape". How they got it, why
> > Bin-Laden would record it but not destroy it. I wonder if someone
who
> > can lip read in Arabic can determine if the tape matches the voices.
> > Bin Laden was behind the attacks I think but the US manufacturing
> > evidence is not a good thing
>
> What is the evidence that leads you to believe the tape was doctored?
No
> speculation, please. Just evidence.
>
> --
> Orac        |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
>             |
>             |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
>             | inconvenience me with questions?"




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:33 EST 2002
Article: 1287712 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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It would be un American if it was not.

Kurt Knoll.
==========
"Mike Kalvatis"  wrote in message
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> On Fri, 14 Dec 2001 02:23:43 GMT, Orac  wrote:
>
> >In article ,
> > Mike Kalvatis  wrote:
> >
> >> There are many questions about this "tape". How they got it, why
> >> Bin-Laden would record it but not destroy it. I wonder if someone
who
> >> can lip read in Arabic can determine if the tape matches the
voices.
> >> Bin Laden was behind the attacks I think but the US manufacturing
> >> evidence is not a good thing
> >
> >What is the evidence that leads you to believe the tape was doctored?
No
> >speculation, please. Just evidence.
>
> Because it's been done before. Do you trust everything the media and
> Government tells you? I hope not. Good historians always question
> sources. I am not claiming the tape is a fraud, I am claiming the tape
> was probably doctored.
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:34 EST 2002
Article: 1287726 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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What truth or do you mean manipulated truth. As for Bin Laden it would
be bad if he was still alive
You guys sure know how to but on a show or better an orchestrated
Circus.

Just remember Manuel Noriega his witchcraft and dope dealing all of this
to retain control
over the Panama Canal. If he ever should get out of jail you guys will
assassinate him for your
cover up.

Kurt Knoll.
=======
"Shel Scott"  wrote in message
news:3c19752c.91689203@news.uniserve.com...
> We see the predictable responses from the usual assholes to this
> latest tape recording of Bin Laden.
>
> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote:
> >If America wants someone they will work on it even if it means
> >cheating and lying.
> >
> Why would the US bother to forge a tape when they've got bin Laden by
> the short and curlies?  Hell, the asshole may already be dead!
>
> >My questions are:
> >Where was the exact location the tape was made ?.
> >
> That really doesn't matter one tiny bit!
>
> >What was the Date and time the Tape was made ?.
> >
> Obviously some time after 9/11, other than that it really doesn't
> matter.
>
> >Was the background noise on the original or was it added latter.
> >
> Why would anybody add background noise?
>
> >Why did the cut & paste and edit take so long. Was it to doctor
> >it around till it almost becomes believable.
> >
> Obviously it took a while to understand what was being said, you still
> can't make out much of what Bin Laden is saying.
>
> >If Bin Laden Ever get captured will we the public ever get to
> >hear the truth. Will anyone ever be allowed to verify the Facts ?.
> >Kurt Knoll.
> >
> We the public have already heard the truth.
>
> >"Mike Kalvatis"  wrote:
> >> It sure took them a long time to put it out. I am sure it is edited
> >> heavily and according to some sources it is a forgery.
> >>
> Readers should note that the "some sources" include the father of
> suicidal terrorist moron Mohammed Atta.    I see no evidence of heavy
> editting, and the folks who say it is a forgery don't mention one
> single pieice of info as to how (or WHY) such a forgery would be made,
> not to mention how they can tell if it's a forgery.
>
> >> CAIRO, Egypt -- The father of Mohammed Atta dismissed as a
> >>"forgery" a  videotape released Thursday in which Osama bin
> >>Laden calls his son the leader of the Sept. 11 suicide hijackers.
> >>
> Oh, yes, there's an unimpeachable source.  Loving, caring daddy,
> there, made sure his son came to no harm.  NOT!
>
> >> The father, Mohamed al-Amir al-Sayed Awad Atta, said in a
> >>telephone interview with The Associated Press that he had not
> >>seen the tape, but declared it a "farce. All this is a forgery, a
fabrication!"
> 
> Oh, sacred shit, that's enough of that!  This asshole hasn't even seen
> the tape and is being quoted as a "source" who claims it is a forgery!
>
>
> Go fuck yourselves, Mike, Kurt, and each and every one of you idiots.
> --
> ):     "I may make you feel, but I can't make you think"     :(
> (:    Off the monitor, through the modem, nothing but net    :)
> --
> abuse@earthlink.com  abuse@aol.com    abuse@yahoo.com
> abuse@hotmail.com    abuse@msn.com   abuse@sprint.com




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:34 EST 2002
Article: 1287728 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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The new said the found one tape how many is one ?.

Kurt Knoll.
==========
"Shel Scott"  wrote in message
news:3c197542.91711438@news.uniserve.com...
> We see the predictable responses from the usual assholes to this
> latest tape recording of Bin Laden.
>
> Mike Kalvatis  wrote:
> >There are many questions about this "tape".
> >
> Questions are easy to dream up.  Your questions are easily answered or
> quite irrelevant, often both.
>
> >How they got it,
> >
> They found it in a house in Afghanistan, I believe.
>
> >why Bin-Laden would record it but not destroy it.
> >
> Bin Laden didn't record it, one of his men did.
> For all you know there are hours and hours of Bin Laden and his men on
> tape, this is one of a very few that have fallen into the hands of
> decent folks.
>
> >I wonder if someone who
> >can lip read in Arabic can determine if the tape matches the voices.
> >
> That is so stunningly obvious as to be fairly called a stupid
> question.  Not only can a lipreader use the tape, but a person who
> understands the language being used can hear the voices.
>
> >Bin Laden was behind the attacks I think but the US
> >manufacturing evidence is not a good thing
> >
> Claiming that evidence is being manufactured when you have absolutely
> no proof beyond a couple of rather stupid questions is not a good
> thing.
> --
> ):     "I may make you feel, but I can't make you think"     :(
> (:    Off the monitor, through the modem, nothing but net    :)
> --
> abuse@earthlink.com  abuse@aol.com    abuse@yahoo.com
> abuse@hotmail.com    abuse@msn.com   abuse@sprint.com




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:34 EST 2002
Article: 1287734 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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When idiots brain were given away you must have insisted to get more
portions than
normal people. It shows.

Kurt Knoll.
===========
"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
news:jeffreygbrown-B5A28B.22364213122001@news.alt.net...
> In article <3c196dcb_2@binaries.vphos.net>, "Lying Shit Knoll"
>  wrote:
>
> > Well Brownshit the CNN said they are not finished editing
>
> What evidence do you have that the tape was edited at all, imbecile?
>
> JGB
>
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown
jeffreygbrown@mailandnews.com
> For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
> to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
> To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study",
1997




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:35 EST 2002
Article: 1287808 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Ich bin 45 jahre in Kanada erst die letzen 8 monate schreibe ich wieder
Deutsch.

I am 45 years in canada only the last 8 months do i write in German
again.

Kurt Knoll.
==========
"Eugene Holman"  wrote in message
news:141220011157419555%holman@elo.helsinki.fi...
> In article <3c1923d1_2@binaries.vphos.net>, "Kurt Knoll"
>  wrote:
>
> > Kolthoff to bist aus Hamburg gar nicht so schlecht das is besser den
> > eine Sau Preuse aus Berlin.
> > Aber sei vorsichtig wie du dich benemhst wen du mit mir sprichts.
>
> Kurt, Sie schreiben Deutsch wie ein kompletter Analphabet. Entweder
> haben Sie Ihr Deutsch vergessen, oder Sie haben Deutsch nie richtig
> schreiben können.
>
> --
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
> Eugene Holman




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:35 EST 2002
Article: 1287816 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Okay Jeffery how long was the original tape.
If you add all the snippets shown on Television excluding the
explanations in between how
much will the total video be. Take this and compare with the total
length of the original
Video if it is not the same length it is edited. The did say the very
first time they did mention
the tape it is 46 minutes long ?.

Kurt Knoll.
=====
"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
news:jeffreygbrown-3B7600.06373714122001@news.alt.net...
> In article <3C19971D.D00DE57E@telus.net>, Naziboy Knoll

> wrote:
>
> > "Jeffrey G. Brown" wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <3C198A0A.32A3916D@telus.net>, Naziboy Knoll
> > > 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > What evidence have you got that it is not a copy supplied to the
news
> > > > media by people who work for the US Government?
> > >
> > > I haven't made any claims about the tape, imbecile.
> > >
> > > Your idiot brother did, however.
> > >
> > > He's the one who has to supply evidence.
> > >
> > > JGB
> > >
> >
> > He was just using common sense by telling you that what we have seen
is
> > the edited version
>
> "Common sense" tell us that your idiot brother must back up that claim
with
> evidence.
>
> He can't.
>
> Can you?
>
> JGB
>
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown
jeffreygbrown@mailandnews.com
> For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
> to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
> To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study",
1997




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:35 EST 2002
Article: 1287876 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Nut Head this is what you always ask for.

Kurt Knoll.
===========
"E. Barry Bruyea"  wrote in message
news:3c19f790.8337083@news.gate-way.net...
> On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 20:15:49 -0500, "Jeffrey G. Brown"
>  wrote:
>
> >In article <3c1947dc$1_2@binaries.vphos.net>, "Lying Shit Knoll"
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Well Jeffery you do it all the time maybe you gave them instruction
how
> >> to do it you are the expert.
> >
> >What evidence do you have that the tape was edited at all, imbecile?
> >
> >JGB
>
>
> Since when was 'evidence' a requirement for any of his posts?
>
> >
> >=====================================================================
> >Jeffrey G. Brown
jeffreygbrown@mailandnews.com
> >For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it
means
> >to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so
simple.
> >To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study",
1997
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:36 EST 2002
Article: 1287878 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Butting a capture bellow is editing.

Kurt Knoll.
========
"Don Dickson"  wrote in message
news:xcx666-91BD9B.10195514122001@news.bellglobal.com...
> In article <3c195a57$1_2@binaries.vphos.net>,
>  "Kurt Knoll"  wrote:
>
> > If you had listened to CNN were it said a couple of time they are
not
> > finished editing jet.
>
>
> When I was listening to CNN they said they were not finished verifying
> the translation. There are various dialects which have small
differences
> so they wanted to get the opinion of several experts before they
> released the tape with translation subtitles.
>
> --
> Don Dickson
>
> Remove the first "x" from xcx666 to reply by e-mail.




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:36 EST 2002
Article: 1287955 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.politics
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I have the castrated before the know what hits them.

Kurt Knoll.
============
"KCOM"  wrote in message
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> On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 17:44:19 -0800, "Kurt Knoll"
>  wrote:
>
> >Brownshit you are lying again. I would like to have this CD but only
if
> >I can compare it
> >with the Original Court Documents.
> >
> >Kurt Knoll.
> >
>
>
> Beware Kurt, do not cross the haters the wrong way.
>
>
> Steve
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:37 EST 2002
Article: 1287956 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.politics
References: <1FqS7.8231$987.1305817121@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com> 
Subject: Re: Nizkor's Bossman
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Fabian is not wrong brownshit Nizkor is washed out everyone know go and
play another record.

Kurt Knoll.
===========
"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
news:jeffreygbrown-18451A.19102814122001@news.alt.net...
> In article <1FqS7.8231$987.1305817121@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>,
"Fabian"
>  wrote:
>
> > [...deletia: irrelevancies...]
>
> Translation: Like so many clueless bigots, "Fabian" is utterly unable
to deal
> honestly with the facts presented on the Nizkor site. Hence, it
resorts to
> fact-free attacks on Mr. McVay.
>
> JGB
>
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown
jeffreygbrown@mailandnews.com
> For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
> to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
> To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study",
1997




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:37 EST 2002
Article: 1288017 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Go and record it the play it back let me know if it gone.

Kurt Knoll.
============
"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
news:jeffreygbrown-A09B9A.23113614122001@news.alt.net...
> In article , "Gutless
Donnie Ellis"
>  wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 23:46:12 -0500, "Jeffrey G. Brown"
> >  wrote:
>
> > [...deletia...]
>
> > >What evidence do you have that the English captions at the bottom
are on
> > >the tape, imbecile?
> >
> > Watch the news reports.
>
> What evidence do you have that the English captions at the bottom are
ON THE
> TAPE, imbecile?
>
> JGB
>
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown
jeffreygbrown@mailandnews.com
> For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
> to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
> To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study",
1997




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:37 EST 2002
Article: 1288018 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.politics,us.politics
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A Brain will tell you Jeffery but I don't know if you have one.

Kurt Knoll.
============
"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
news:jeffreygbrown-4D908E.23132814122001@news.alt.net...
> In article <3c19f3b9_2@binaries.vphos.net>, "Lying Shit Knoll"
>  wrote:
>
> > Okay Jeffery how long was the original tape.
> > If you add all the snippets shown on Television excluding the
> > explanations in between how
> > much will the total video be. Take this and compare with the total
> > length of the original
> > Video if it is not the same length it is edited. The did say the
very
> > first time they did mention
> > the tape it is 46 minutes long ?.
>
> Do you actually have any facts, lying shit, or just more fact-free
speculation?
>
> JGB
>
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown
jeffreygbrown@mailandnews.com
> For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
> to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
> To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study",
1997




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:38 EST 2002
Article: 1288084 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.politics,us.politics
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Hey Daffy what was behind that [snip] was it something you could not
comprehend ?.

Kurt Knoll.
========
"William Daffer"  wrote in message
news:m2wuzpwcdu.fsf@ulysses.localdomain...
> Werner Knoll  writes:
>
> [snip]
>
> > Hitler got elected because he promised jobs. other leader similar
> > tactics at that time!
> >
>
>   You might want to consider a verb in that second sentence.
>
> whd
> --
> Morghus, in 73fedc95.0108161718.6bd60250@posting.google.com, says:
>
> The bogus farm-house chambers were also supposed to be able to
> accomodate 2,000 people each.  That's where the interrogators dreamed
> up their peak capacity of 10,000 in 1941 at the farmhouses.
>
>
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_ugroup=alt.revisionism&as_umsgid=73fe
dc95.0108161718.6bd60250%40posting.google.com
>
> for the complete post.




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:38 EST 2002
Article: 1288087 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Daffer you don't know what logic is you are living in a dream world of
your Holohoax.

Kurt Knoll.
============
"William Daffer"  wrote in message
news:m27krpw86h.fsf@ulysses.localdomain...
> Werner Knoll  writes:
>
> > William Daffer wrote:
> > >
> > > Werner Knoll  writes:
> > >
> > > [snip]
> > >
> > > > Hitler got elected because he promised jobs. other leader
similar
> > > > tactics at that time!
> > > >
> > >
> > >   You might want to consider a verb in that second sentence.
> > >
> > > whd
> >
> > You must have noticed that I am no expert in writing?
> >
>
>   Duh.
>
>
> > I earned my living working in smelters an in the bush. My tools (
> > Automotive Mechanic, Heavy Duty Mechanic and Millwright ) were
> > sledge hammers and wrenches. It was only after I retired with time
> > on my hand that I learned typing. I can see now where I should have
> > inserted "used" in the second sentence. Thanks for the tip
> >
>
>   Du rien.
>
>   Another tip. Consider a course in logic. You're in dire need of one.
>
> whd
> --
> Matters about which Joe Bellinger has lied and continues to lie:
>
> Butler,Gilbert,Death Dealer, Amidah, C for Convert, Christians in
> Israel, Pranatis and Russian Translation of Talmud, and anytime he
> claims to have killfiled you.
>
> Oh, and anytime he claims to have 'trounced' anyone.




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:39 EST 2002
Article: 1288089 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Tell me Brownshit was the original Video Tape in 8mm, Beta or VHS Format
and how many
minutes was it was the recording made in Bal Secam Secam III or in
American Standard Format.

Was the oririgional tape supplied to the news media ?.

If not did the government use a independent Video Conversion service or
did they user their own Video equipment.
"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
news:jeffreygbrown-8BD73F.00021115122001@news.alt.net...
> In article <3c1ad51e_1@binaries.vphos.net>, "Lying Shit Knoll"
>  wrote:
>
> > Go and record it the play it back let me know if it gone.
>
> This time, post your evasion in English, moron:
>
> What evidence do you have that the English captions at the bottom are
> ON THE TAPE, imbecile?
>
> JGB
>
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown
jeffreygbrown@mailandnews.com
> For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
> to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
> To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study",
1997




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:39 EST 2002
Article: 1288131 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Lying Jeffery Brown gave me a warning boy am I ever scared now. You cant
even tell me what
kind of camera format was used ?. Shame on you Cowboy.

Kurt Knoll.
===========
"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
news:jeffreygbrown-94E477.09320115122001@news.alt.net...
> In article <3c1b56c1$1_2@binaries.vphos.net>, "Lying Shit Knoll"
>  wrote:
>
> > Tell me Brownshit was the original Video Tape 
>
> I've already warned you, lying shit -- you don't get to ask the
questions here.
>
> What evidence do you have that the English captions at the bottom are
ON THE
> TAPE, imbecile?
>
> JGB
>
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown
jeffreygbrown@mailandnews.com
> For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
> to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
> To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study",
1997




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:39 EST 2002
Article: 1288134 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Hey Daffer what was in the [snip] content.
Kurt Knoll.
=
"William Daffer"  wrote in message
news:m2r8pwtujz.fsf@ulysses.localdomain...
> Werner Knoll  writes:
>
> [snip]
>
> > >   Another tip. Consider a course in logic. You're in dire need of
one.
> > >
> > > whd
> >
> > My system works otherwise yo would not be replying?
> >
>
>   Not very well, I don't respond to you all that often. And what does
>   your 'system' have to do with your inability to reason?
>
>
> > Pissing in the swimming pool when you are in the water will get you
> > nowhere. Do it from from a 10 meter springboard and everybody will
> > notice you!
> >
>
>   So that's what you're doing here, Werner, pissing in the swimming
>   pool?
>
>   Thanks for acknowledging what we already knew.
>
> whd
> --
> Kurt Knolls enjoins us:
>
>   Bellow is your Gas Wagon Jeffery Enjoy.




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:40 EST 2002
Article: 1288143 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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[snip]

"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
news:jeffreygbrown-04DC89.13545415122001@news.alt.net...
> In article <3C1B86D9.AB79FFE2@telus.net>, Naziboy Knoll

> wrote:
>
> > William Daffer wrote:
>
> > [...deletia...]
>
> JGB
>
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown
jeffreygbrown@mailandnews.com
> For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
> to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
> To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study",
1997




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:40 EST 2002
Article: 1288144 of alt.revisionism
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"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
news:jeffreygbrown-0CE110.13554515122001@news.alt.net...
> In article <3c1b9617$1_2@binaries.vphos.net>, "Lying Shit Knoll"
>  wrote:
>
> > [...deletia: babble...]
[snip]

> JGB
>
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown
jeffreygbrown@mailandnews.com
> For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
> to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
> To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study",
1997




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:41 EST 2002
Article: 1288190 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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This was 2 years after the war SW and not at war time. Do you really
think we had a lot more
to eat in the cities.

When someone can sell you the Bible then they also can sell you the
Holocaust ?.


Kurt Knoll.
=============
"SW"  wrote in message
news:stOS7.270570$ez.37781452@news1.rdc1.nj.home.com...
>
> Werner Knoll  wrote in message
> news:3C1B9174.8E7B51DB@telus.net...
> >
> >
> > William Daffer wrote:
> > >
> > > Richard Phillips  writes:
> > >
> > > [snip]
> > >
> > > > =================================================
> > > > Phillips
> > > >
> > > > Can someone tell me just what that "change" was.
> > >
> > >   *Bwahahahahahahah*
> > >
> > >   There was no change. He was confused about the difference
between a
> > >   calorie and a kilo-calorie, also written as Calorie.
> > >
> > > > I have always supposed that a gm-calorie/kg-calorie is the heat
> > > > necessary to warm 1 gm/1 kg of water through 1 degree Celsius.
Has
> > > > this definition changed?
> > > >
> > >
> > >   It's not a 'gm-calorie' and a 'kg-calorie.' The latter doesn't
> > >   exist. The spelling 'calorie' is always used when the unit of
mass
> > >   is a gram and 'Calorie' when it's a kilogram.
> > >
> > > whd
> >
> > I have in my hands a proclamation by the City of Nürnberg about the
> > ration we are entitled to:
> >
> > Rations from 23. June to 20. July 1947:
> >
> > Adults:
> >
> > Bread 6000 gr
> > Fat 200 gr
> > Meat 400 gr
> > Victuals 800 gr
> > Cheese 125 gr
> > Sugar 500 gr
> > Coffee --  gr
> > Potato        10000 gr
> > Skim Milk 3 Liter
> > Fish 500 gr
> >
> > Can you spend some time to find out how many Calories this are?
> >
> > Kurt and I can tell you, we were almost killed  for stealing table
> > scraps from the American soup kitchen.
> >
> > Werner Knoll
> > Whom Jewish Organizations seek to destroy, they expose to Jeffrey G.
> > Brown, Ken McVay's foreskin.
>
>
>
> Figure it out yourself.  Obviously, it wasn't the starvation diet you
and
> your Nazi pals dished out to your prisoners.  After all, you and your
> retarded brother are still here whining about it.
>
> sw
>
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:41 EST 2002
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Amazing with all the modern Video enhancing electronics the Americans
have they did not try
to improve the quality of this tape. Could it be they done this
intentionally and add the noise
in the background.

Kurt Knoll.
=========
"Orac"  wrote in message
news:Orac-B87817.16402815122001@news2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
> In article <3C1A7A7D.D10B5B10@telus.net>,
>  Werner Knoll  wrote:
>
> > William Daffer wrote:
> > >
> > > Werner Knoll  writes:
>
> > > > But the sound quality was so poor that native Arabic speakers
had to
> > > > rely on U. S. - provided translation.
> > >
> > >   Actually, I've heard of *no* such claims. The claims I've heard
from
> > >   the Arabs are that it isn't bin Laden, or the sound doesn't
match
> > >   the movements of his mouth. In L.A. they interviewed Moslems at
a
> > >   mosque and, with the except of one person who only said that he
> > >   "didn't believe it" all said that it convinced them of bin
Laden's
> > >   guilt. And the Al Jezeera report I heard didn't have anything in
the
> > >   way of hard evidence, just more rumor mongering of the
> > >   unconvinceable.
> >
> > I am always suspicious when people tell me that I have to believe
what
> > they are telling me. What If the sound was tampered with so somebody
> > could put his own spin on it?
>
> Then I'm sure, now that the tape is widely available, someone will
have
> the appropriate experts go over the tape with a fine tooth comb and
> prove it was tampered with. No one has done so thus far, or even said
> they were going to try to prove that the tape was tampered with.
>
> [Snip]
>
> --
> Orac        |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
>             |
>             |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
>             | inconvenience me with questions?"




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:41 EST 2002
Article: 1288235 of alt.revisionism
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The tape originally supposed to be 46 Minutes. Take away all the
explanation between the scenes
how many minutes does it add up to ?.

Kurt Knoll.
=========
"Orac"  wrote in message
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> In article ,
>  Mike Kalvatis  wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 22:37:38 -0500, "Jeffrey G. Brown"
> >  wrote:
> >
> > >In article , Mike
Kalvatis
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Fri, 14 Dec 2001 02:23:43 GMT, Orac  wrote:
>
> > >> >What is the evidence that leads you to believe the tape was
doctored? No
> > >> >speculation, please. Just evidence.
> > >>
> > >> Because it's been done before.
> > >
> > >What is the evidence that leads you to believe the tape was
doctored? No
> > >speculation, please. Just evidence.
> > >
> > The captions in English on the bottom. Unless you have the original
in
> > tact Bot, you're talking out of your asshole again.
>
> If you're going to define something as trivial as adding captions to
the
> tape as "doctoring," then the word means nothing. To most people
> "doctoring" a tape would certainly imply altering it in order to show
> something other than what it originally showed, for instance, changing
> the sound or picture to make bin Laden appear to be saying something
he
> never said. If you think adding the subtitles in English constitutes
> "doctoring," then please explain how adding those changes the meaning
of
> the tape, given that the original Arabic soundtrack was left intact.
> Anyone who speaks Arabic is thus free to compare the translation in
the
> subtitles to what is actually being said on the tape. You can bet that
> if there were any mistakes or deception in the translation, many would
> be pointing them out specifically.
>
> --
> Orac        |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
>             |
>             |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
>             | inconvenience me with questions?"




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:42 EST 2002
Article: 1288240 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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I did have I my store a fellow working Video taping weddings and Home
parties he did have a
Sony video enhances and Video Taping equipment wit flying erase head.
It was amazing to see  how he could improve the quality of a home Video.

I do think the American Government has better equipment the we did have
therefore the questions.

Kurt Knoll.
==========
"Orac"  wrote in message
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> In article <3c1bca29$1_2@binaries.vphos.net>,
>  "Kurt Knoll"  wrote:
>
> > Amazing with all the modern Video enhancing electronics the
Americans
> > have they did not try
> > to improve the quality of this tape. Could it be they done this
> > intentionally and add the noise
> > in the background.
>
> If they did, appropriate experts should be able to detect it. It is
> almost impossible to alter a videotape so that a trained expert cannot
> detect it, especially if, as you seem to be proposing, someone is
trying
> to "doctor" a tape of bin Laden to make him appear to be saying
> something he never said.
>
> As I said, time for the doubters to put up or shut up. The tape is out
> there; the experts can analyze it to their hearts' content to see if
it
> was "doctored" in any way.
>
> --
> Orac        |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
>             |
>             |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
>             | inconvenience me with questions?"




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:42 EST 2002
Article: 1288243 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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You never grew up in a War never been exposed to American Politics maybe
some Day you will learn how it really works.

Kurt Knoll.
===========
"Orac"  wrote in message
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> In article ,
>  Larry J  wrote:
>
> > On 14 Dec 2001, Werner Knoll  tapped on a
keyboard and
> > said:
>
>
> > > Bin Laden crows on tape
> > >
> > > West sees smoking gun, while many in Mideast cry 'fake'
> >
> > Of course they did - because their "Mullahs" told them to.
> > > ...
> > > But the sound quality was so poor that native Arabic speakers had
to
> > > rely on U. S. - provided translation.
> >
> > Horseshit.  For much of the tape, I could hear the voices quite
clearly,
> > and if I understood the language, could probably get the message.
> >
> > You're making this up again, Troll.
>
> Oh, Werner's not a troll, as you would know if you happened to be a
> regular on alt.revisionism. He's a real, honest-to-God anti-Semite and
> Holocaust denier, with a large dash of conspiracy theorist thrown in
for
> flavoring. He's also not too bright. He appears to really believe
> everything he posts (because he's not too bright, I suppose). More's
the
> pity.
>
> --
> Orac        |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
>             |
>             |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
>             | inconvenience me with questions?"




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:43 EST 2002
Article: 1288247 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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You are a typical super American Hero did you get this info from a
Kellogg's Cornflake Box.

While the war was on did you see the Movies about the Germans using a
Pitch Forks to kill babies.

Well don't be surprised I have seen the same ones where the Russians
used the Pitch Forks.

Amazing both Movies were made in Hollywood.



Kurt Knoll.
============
"Joel Rosenberg"  wrote in message
news:m2vgf8w21q.fsf@msp-65-25-234-54.mn.rr.com...
> Werner Knoll  writes:
>
> >
>
> > I do recall being chased away by American Soldiers for trying to
bring
> > water to German prisoners!
>
> Well, good.  Letting Hitler Jugend types near the prisoners would have
> been horrible security.  I'm sure that the ubermenschen got all the
> water that their captors thought they needed.
>
> --
> -------------------------------------
> There's a widow in sleepy Chester
>   Who weeps for her only son;
> There's a grave on the Pabeng River,
>   A grave that the Burmans shun,
> And there's Subadar Prag Tewarri
>   Who tells how the work was done.
> -------------------------------------




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:43 EST 2002
Article: 1288249 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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When Richard Nixon first moved in to the White House his first words
were oh my gosh they are all
Jewish you cant trust does guys.

While Flying to Toronto one time I read the Time magazine where it said
80% of the
Whitehouse staff is Jewish.

Is it possible to get a Listing of Whitehouse Staff Members and their
Affiliations.

or E-Mail Me at kknoll@yellowhead16net

Kurt Knoll.
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"Alex Vange"  wrote in message
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>
>
>
> http://stormfront.org
> www.spearhead-uk.com
> "ALSO" <"also"@onebox(-).com> wrote in message
> news:x3eS7.514$km1.206811@news.uswest.net...
> >
> >
> > Alex Vange wrote:
> >
> > > ..Fox News just broke the story (Dec. 12) that the FBI has
arrested 60
> > > Israelis for spying on the United States and that Terrorism Task
Force
> > > investigators have found evidence linking them to the September 11
> attacks
> > > on the United States. They report that evidence exists indicating
that
> > > high-level Israeli operatives (and thus Israel's Government) had
advance
> > > knowledge of the September 11 attack and treacherously failed to
inform
> the
> > > American Government, thus permitting the mass death and
destruction of
> > > September 11.
> > >
> > > Here is the quote from Fox News, Dec. 12, 2001
> > > http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,40679,00.html
> > >
> >
> > quite a stretch of the information in that article, but not
surprising
> coming
> > from the white supremicist David Duke.
> >
> > from his web site:
> >
> > "Ultimately, we are working to secure
> > the most important civil right of all, the right to preserve our
kind of
> life.
> > Massive
> > immigration and low European-American birthrates coupled with
integration
> and
> > racial intermarriage threatens the continued existence of our very
> genotype. "
> >
> > ewww!
>
>
> Paul Craig Roberts
>
> December 7, 2000
>
> For whom the bells toll
>
> There won't always be an England or a United States. Both are already
> fading, not from military conquest but from their own immigration
policy.
> Demographers have calculated that by the end of this century the
English
> people will be a minority in their homeland. The English are not
having
> enough children to reproduce themselves. In contrast, the "people of
color"
> who have flooded into England have a high fertility rate. Non-whites
will
> comprise a majority of the population of London in just nine years.
>
> It is amazing how fast it is happening. Half a century ago, there were
only
> a few tens of thousands of non-whites in the entirety of Great
Britain. In
> another half century, there will be the beginnings of a black
government.
> What will be the fate of the white minority after decades of being
demonized
> as "white racists" by their own kind at Oxford, Cambridge and the
University
> of London?
>
> The English may be finished as a people, but they still have twice as
long
> as American whites. Demographers predict that whites will comprise a
> minority of the U.S. population by mid-century. It has already
happened in
> California and in many cities.
>
> Like the English, American whites are failing to reproduce. More than
42
> percent of American women of childbearing age are childless. The
figure is
> rising as gender quotas, and the breakdown of marriage and family pull
more
> white women onto career paths that don't lead to children.
>
> Examining the situation, the London Observer said that that this is
"the
> first time in history that a major indigenous population has
voluntarily
> become a minority, rather than through war, famine or disease."
>
> It is amazing that the two most important and powerful countries of
the past
> two centuries have legislated their own path to extinction. But it is
> astounding that it is occurring in the same two countries where
> intellectuals prattle on endlessly about the need for diversity. There
are
> many more non-white countries than white ones; yet, it is the white
ones
> that are slated to disappear.
>
> What's wrong with having an England? What a colorful and unique place!
What
> character and genius! The cradle of the rule of law and representative
> democracy! The font of the scientific and technological revolutions!
It is
> absurd to think these accomplishments are happenstance unrelated to
> Englishness. Do we really need yet another black country, another
India, or
> a mixture of the two? Why can't we keep England English for
diversity's
> sake?
>
> And the United States. What other country has such a strong sense of
right
> and wrong, and such determination to see justice done all over the
world?
> Who but the United States sends its treasure, not as tribute to the
powerful
> but as gifts to the poor? What other country sends its troops to stop
> genocides and wars in foreign lands? Central and South America are
full of
> Hispanic populations. Do we really need another one here?
>
> What is it that compels the United States and England to destroy
themselves
> with an immigration policy designed to replace the indigenous
population
> with different racial stock? In these two lands, agitators fight to
preserve
> every wetlands weed, sand fly and snail darter. What's wrong with
preserving
> England and America?
>
> People had better give this some thought, because the decision won't
be
> theirs to make for much longer.
>
> The 21st century may bring the extinction of white populations.
Confined to
> a small area of the world, white populations are everywhere in
decline.
> Italy, once a fecund Catholic nation where a large family was
everything,
> has such a low birth rate that its population is declining. Everywhere
else
> in Europe birth rates have fallen below replacement rates. European
> governments open the borders to Third World immigrants in order to
keep a
> tax base for the expensive social welfare systems that have crowded
children
> out of the household budgets of the indigenous population. Canada,
also, is
> well on her way to becoming a Third World country.
>
> Russia, too, has a declining population reeling from the environmental
and
> economic destruction after 75 years of communist rule. Pressed on her
> eastern and southern borders by Asiatic populations, Russia is slowly
> retreating from her empire.
>
> In the far Pacific, two island nations, New Zealand and Australia,
hang on
> to an exported British culture. Perhaps they will be preserved, like
the
> Galapagos Islands, as a place where creatures reside who have
disappeared
> elsewhere.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:43 EST 2002
Article: 1288252 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.israel,can.politics
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The main reason for Martin Luther was the Corruption of the Catholic
Church.

At the Time Luther was a Catholic pries him self he did not agree with
the church on the aspect of  forgiving sins
for Money.

Anyone could commit a sin or even commit murder as long he or she did
have enough money
to pay the Catholic Church and his sins were forgiven.

The other thing he did not agree with the Catholic church I To have the
Bible in Latin only. This why he did
translate it so all could read.

His translation helped to translate the Bible into other Languages.

I am an Atheist and do not believe in any Religion or the Bible but what
Martin Luther did Sounds Logic to me.

Kurt Knoll.
====

"Adam Littman"  wrote in message
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> In article <3C1BC31C.124A2129@mylife.ontheplains>, Custer
>  wrote:
>
> >Hmm.  Sounds like someone wants to villify Martin Luther, or stir up
hatred
> >between Jews and Christians. Poor Martin isn't here to defend
himself,
>
> "Poor" Martin had plenty to say while he was alive. See his own
sickening
> words, below.
>
> >either.   If he hated anything it was the catholic church and the
> >indulgences at the time. The Bible holds the Jews in high regard.
Seems
> >like Martin Luther had ample opportunity to mis-translate from the
Greek and
> >Hebrew if he wanted to villify the Jews.
>
> No, he's quite right. Martin Luther originally saw the Jews as
prospective
> converts. He interpreted their refusal to convert to Catholicism as a
> rejection of the Catholic Church, not of Christianity itself. When
Jews
> inexplicably (to him) did not convert en masse to Protestantism he
became a
> virulent anti-Semite.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/paulntobin/luther.html#jews
>
> From "The Jews and their lies" By Martin Luther (Warning, it is
sickening
> stuff):
>
> First, that their schools and synagogues should be set
> on fire ... Second, that their houses too shall be
> destroyed ... Third, that they shall all be deprived of
> their prayer books and the Talmud, which teach such
> idolatry, lies, cursing and blasphemy ... Fourth, that all
> their rabbis should be forbidden to teach, on pain of
> death ... Fifth, that Jews shall be deprived of safe
> conduct and permission to use roads. For being neither
> land owners nor officials nor merchants nor the like,
> they have no business in the countryside and shall
> remain in the ghetto ... Sixth, that they shall be deprived
> of all their cash and their jewelry and gold ... And
> seventh, that all strong and young Jews shall be given
> flails, axes and spades and made to earn a living by the
> sweat of their brow ...It is intolerable for us Christians
> that a Jew's filthy mouth should utter the name of God in
> our presence. And if anyone should hear a Jew speak
> that name, let him inform the authorities, or throw pig
> shit at him and drive him away. And let no one show
> any mercy of kind heartedness in this matter. [7]
>
> --
>                                              ___________
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From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:43 EST 2002
Article: 1288297 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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I like Piano too.
Once I watched on Televison Igor Oestrach playing the Violin Boy was he
ever sweating they high notes
mad my throat go dry. So I did turn of the TV sound and but on a Jazz
Record for background
music I really got a kick out of that one. You should try the same when
Erna Sack sings
the high notes could make you picture tube explode just turn your sound
of and watch her dit's bounce.

Kurt knoll.
============
"Custer"  wrote in message
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>
>
> Kurt Knoll wrote:
>
> > I need my Bottle Liebe Frauen Milch.
>
> LOL.  Yeah, I was quoting this verse from Herder's "Volkslieder". It
is on
> this copy of Brahms piano music I have, Three Intermezzi.  I enjoy
playing
> it on the piano, and as I remember from my teacher, it can be sung as
a
> lullaby.  Wish I could learn German, but I lived over there when I was
way
> too young to learn anything.  My dad was stationed at Karlsrhue.
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:44 EST 2002
Article: 1288303 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Like always Mathews if the writers are not on your site the they are not
qualified. Well I bought the book and read
it and compared it what I know. I also ask others who experienced the
after War years but non
of them will agree with you. You are about the same con artist like
Kenneth McVay when
it comes to distort the facts.

Kurt Knoll.
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"Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
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> "Werner Knoll"  wrote in message
> news:3C1BD0DA.F82537BF@telus.net...
>
> > Eisenhower:
> > >From the book "OTHER LOSSES" by James Bacque. The book order number
is
> > ISBN 0 - 7736 - 7309 - 1 This is a Revised Edition.
>
> (snip)
>
>
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/ftp.py?people//b/bacque.james/ambro
se.0
> 01
>
> Ike and the Disappearing Atrocities
>                       by Stephen E. Ambrose
>
>            New York Times Book Review, February 24, 1991
>
>    Seldom has the publication of a historical monograph on a subject
>    ordinarily of interest only to a few specialists - the treatment of
>    prisoners of war - received so much attention or excited so much
>    anger as James Bacque's "Other Losses." Published in 1989 in
>    Canada, it was the subject of a cover story in the popular Canadian
>    magazine Saturday Night, of a British Broadcasting Corporation
>    documentary, of two German television documentaries and of a coming
>    Canadian Broadcasting Network documentary. (The Canadian book, I
>    should say immediately, carries a jacket blurb from me that was
>    taken out of context and used without permission) It has been
>    discussed on American television, in Time magazine and in many
>    other news media outlets. In its German edition, it was a runaway
>    best seller. The British edition elicited major reviews in the
>    Times Literary Supliment and elsewhere. Prima Publishing of
>    California intendes to publish the book in May, which could fan the
>    flames in the United States.
>
>    The reason for the notoriety is the author's conclusion that Gen.
>    Dwight D. Eisenhower, as head of the American occupation of Germany
>    in 1945, deliberately starved to death German prisoners of war in
>    staggering numbers. Mr. Bacque charges that "the victims
>    undoubtedly number over 800,000, almost certainly over 800,000 and
>    quite likely over a million. Their deaths were knowingly caused by
>    army officers who had sufficient resources to keep the prisoners
>    alive."
>
>    Eisenhower's method, according to Mr. Bacque, was simple: he
>    changed the designation of the prisoners from "Prisoners of War"
>    (P.O.W.), required by the Geneva Convention to be fed the same
>    rations as American G.I.'s, to "Disarmed Enemy Forces" (D.E.F.),
>    which allowed him to cut their rations to starvation level. Mr.
>    Bacque says the D.E.F. were also denied medical supplies and
>    shelter. They died by the hundreds of thousands. Their deaths were
>    covered up on Army records by listing them as "other looses" on
>    charts showing weekly totals of prisoners on hand, numbers
>    discharged and so forth.
>
>    So outraged is Mr. Bacque by his discovery of this heinous crime
>    that he has been quoted in a wire service interview as saying
>    Americans "should take down every statue of Eisenhower, and every
>    photograph of him and annul his memory from American history as
>    best they can, except to say, 'Here was a man who did very evil
>    things that we're ashamed of.'" Questions immediately arise. If
>    there were a million dead, where are the bodies? Did Eisenhower
>    have such vast power that he could order starvation on a mass scale
>    and keep it a secret? Was the undoubted suffering in the camps,
>    especially the transit camps along the Rhine, the result of
>    Eisenhower's policy or the result of the chaotic conditions that
>    prevailed in Europe in the spring and summer of 1945?
>
>    Mr. Bacque, a Canadian novelist with no previous historical
>    research or writing experience, says in his introduction:
>    "Doubtless many scholars will find faults in this book, which are
>    only mine. I welcome their criticism and their further research,
>    which may help to restore to us the truth after a long night of
>    lies." Last December, the Eisenhower Center at the University of
>    New Orleans invited some leading experts on the period to examine
>    the charges. The conference participants, including me, plan to
>    publish the papers in book form.
>
>    Our first conclusion was that Mr. Bacque had made a major
>    historical discovery. There _was_ wdiespread mistreatment of German
>    prisoners in the spring and summer of 1945. Men were beaten, denied
>    water, forced to live in open camps without shelter, given
>    inadequate food rations and inadequate medical care. Their mail was
>    withheld. In some cases prisoners made a "soup" of water and grass
>    in order to deal with their hunger. Men did die needlessly and
>    inexcusably. This must be confronted, and it is to Mr. Bacque's
>    credit that he forces us to do so.
>
>    Our second conclusion was that when scholars do the necessary
>    research, they will find Mr. Bacque's work to be worse than
>    worthless. It is seriously - nay, spectacularly - flawed in its
>    most fundamental aspects. Mr. Bacque misuses documents; he misreads
>    documents; he ignores contrary evidence; his statistical
>    methodology is hopelessly compromised; he makes no attempt to look
>    at comparative contexts; he puts words into the mouth of his
>    principal source; he ignores a readily available and absolutely
>    critical source that decisively deals with his central accusation;
>    and, as a consequence of these and and other shortcomings, he
>    reaches conclusions and makes charges that are demonstrably absurd.
>
>    Apart from its assessment of Mr. Bacque's findings, however, the
>    conference - along with the book itself - raises a larger issue:
>    how are readers who are not experts to judge a work that makes
>    new, startling, indeed outrageious, claims? Without the knowledge
>    or the time to investigate, how are they to know if an author has
>    finally revealed the truth "after a long night of lies," or is
>    simply misleading an unwary public?
>
>    As for Mr. Bacque's claims, the most immediate question is that of
>    Eisenhower's motive: why on earth would Ike do such a thing? Mr.
>    Bacque answers that Eisenhower hated the Germans. Now it is
>    absolutely true that in the spring of 1945, Eisenhower's anger at
>    the Germans was very great. He never attempted to hide these
>    feelings. In "Crusade in Europe," published in 1948, he wrote, "In
>    my personal reactions, as the months of conflict wore on, I grew
>    constantly more bitter against the Germans." He relates that he
>    signed tens of thousands of letters of condolence to the wives and
>    mothers of his fallen men, and he wrote, "I know of no more
>    effective means of developing an undying hatred of those
>    responsible for aggressive war than to assume the obligation of
>    attemption to express sympathy to families bereaved by it." The
>    uncovering of the concentration camps added to his emotion.
>
>    Eisenhower was an enthusiastic supporter of denazification, but not
>    because he hated the Germans or believed in collective guilt. To
>    the contrary, he believed that there were Germans who were
>    committed to democracy and that the task of the occupation was to
>    find them and bring them to the fore. In a speech in Frankfurt in
>    1945, he declared "The success or failure of this occupation will
>    be judged by the character of the Germans 50 years from now. Proof
>    will come when they begin to run a democracy of their own and we
>    are going to give the Germans a chance to do that, in time." This
>    does not sound like a man who simultaneously was directing the
>    death by starvation of one million young Germans.
>
>    Mr. Bacque completely misunderstands Eisenhower's position and
>    activity in the occupation. He puts full responsibility on
>    Eisenhower for every policy decision, never recognizing that he had
>    superiors from whom he took policy directives and orders -
>    specifically, the Army Chief of Staff, the European Advisory
>    Commission, acting in the name and with the authority of the
>    British, Soviet and American Governments, the Joint Chiefs of
>    Staff, the Combined Chiefs of Staff, that is, the American Joint
>    Chiefs and the British Chiefs of Staff; and the heads of the
>    British and American Governments. The report at the New Orleans
>    conference on the diplomatic background, by Brian Villa of the
>    University of Ottawa, noted that the policy of Eisenhower's
>    superiors was to impress upon the Germans the fact of their defeat,
>    the fact that they had brought it on themselves and in other ways
>    to "treat 'em rough." Denazification was one aspect of that policy.
>    Another was that German prisoners would not be fed at a higher
>    level than German civilians, than the civilians of the liberated
>    nations, or than the displaced persons (DPs).
>
>    An assertion that is central to Mr. Bacque's accusation is his
>    contention that there was no European food shortage in 1945. He
>    points to warehouses in Germany full of food. He says that the Red
>    Cross had food available. One of his most daming pieces of evidence
>    is that a train from Geneva loaded with food parcels sent by the
>    Red Cross to feed German prisoners was forced to turn back.
>
>    This is shocking - food was available, men were hungry and American
>    officers ordered the train to return to Geneva. But there was a
>    reason: the Allied Governments had decided that Red Cross food
>    parcels would be used to feed displaced persons, of whom there were
>    more than two million in Germany, and the orders to Eisenhower on
>    this policy were explicit. So DPs got those food parcels. It is
>    painful beyond description to have to set food priorities in a
>    hungry world, but it had to be done, and who could argue with the
>    decision?
>
>    In his conference report on the food situation in Germany, James
>    Tent of the University of Alabama - Brimingham says there was no
>    question that there were severe shortages. Still, as Mr. Tent
>    points out, there was food stocked in warehouses that was not
>    distributed to prisoners living on a near-starvation diet. Again,
>    this is shocking, until the reason is noted. The Allied Governments
>    were fearful of famine in the winter of 1945-46, and they were
>    stockpiling food. Even with the reserves, they barely got through
>    the winter, and it was three years before the European foot
>    shortage was overcome.
>
>    Mr. Bacque's myth was Eisenhower's nightmare. No food shortage?
>    Eisenhower wrote the Chief of Staff, Gen. George C. Marshall, in
>    Februayr 1945: "I am very much concerned about the food
>    situation... We now have no reserves on the Continent of supplies
>    for the civil population."
>
>    And here is Eisenhower writing to the Combined Chiefs of Staff on
>    April 25, 1945: "Unless immediate steps are taken to develop to the
>    fullest extent possible the food resources in order to provide the
>    minimum wants of the German population, widespread chaos,
>    starvation and disease are inevitable during the coming winter."
>
>    These - and many, many similar messages - went out before the
>    surrender. After the first week of May, all of Eisenhower's
>    calculations as to how many people he would be required to feed in
>    occupied Germany became woefully inadequate. He had badly
>    underestimated, for two reasons. First, the number of German
>    soldiers surrendering to the Western Allies far exceeded what was
>    expected (more than five million, instead of the anticipated three
>    million) because of the onrush of German soldiers across the Elbe
>    River to escape the Russians. So too with German civilians - there
>    were millions fleeing from east to west, about 13 million
>    altogether, and they became Eisenhower's responsibility. Eisenhower
>    faced shortages even before he learned that there were 17 million
>    more people to feed in Germany than he had expected.
>
>    No food shortage? This is the report of the Military Governor for
>    Germany in July 1945: "The food situation throughout Western
>    Germany is perhaps the most serious problem of the occupation. The
>    average food consumption in the Western Zones is now about
>    one-third below the generally accepted subsistence level." The
>    September report declares, "Food from indigenous sources was not
>    available to meet the present authorized ration level for the
>    normal consumer, of 1,550 calories per day."
>
>    Mr. Bacque says that the prisoners were receiving 1,550 calories a
>    day, and he contends that such a ration means slow starvation. He
>    apparently never looked at what civilians were getting, in Germany
>    or in the liberated countries. In Paris in 1945, the calorie level
>    was 1,550 for civilians. It was only slightly higher in Briatin,
>    where rationing continued. It was much lower in Russia, where
>    rationing also continued. As noted, the official ration for German
>    civilians was 1,550, but often not met. In Vienna in the summer of
>    1945 the official ration sometimes fell to 500.
>
>    There is such a thing as common sense. Anyone who was in Europe in
>    the summer of 1945 would be flabbergasted to hear that there was no
>    food shortage.
>
>    According to Mr. Bacque, Eisenhower personally, secretly, and with
>    sinister intent changed the status of surrendered German soldiers
>    from prisoners of war to disarmed enemy forces. In fact, the change
>    in designation was a policy matter. The decision was made not by
>    Eisenhower but by his superiors, specifically by the European
>    Advisory Commission. Nor was any attempt made to keep it secret.
>    All those involved acted with the authority of the British, Russian
>    and American Governments, and they were perfectly straightforward
>    about the reason for the change in status.
>
>    What happened is simple enough: the Allies could not afford to feed
>    the millions of German prisoners at the same level at which they
>    were able to feed German civilians, not to mention the civilians of
>    the liberated countries of Western Europe, and not to mention as
>    well the displaced persons. But the United States and other Allied
>    nations had signed the Geneva Convention, which had the force of a
>    treaty. They did not wish to violate it, so they used the new
>    designation of "Disarmed Enemy Forces." The orders to the field
>    commanders were straighforward: do not feed the DEF's at a higher
>    scale than German civilians.
>
>    With regard to another of Mr. Bacque's conclusions, he arrives at
>    his sensational figure of one million dead through a system of
>    analysis that has left almost everyone who has tried to check his
>    statistics and methods befuddled. He did make one mistake because
>    of a typing error by a clerk. He saw a figure of 70,000 prisoners
>    in an Army medical report and then calculated the total death rate
>    for all prisoners in American hands on the basis of that number and
>    the 21,000 deaths also mentioned in the report. That is, he arrived
>    at his most basic conclusion, a death rate in all camps of 30
>    percent, by dividing the 21,000 deaths by the 70,000 prisoners.
>    However, the 70,000 figure should have been 10 times higher. All
>    other figures in the document make it clear that the correct number
>    of prisoners was 700,000. This would make the death rate not 30
>    percent but 3 percent.
>
>    In fact, as Albert Cowdrey of the Department of the Army's Center
>    of Military History reported to the conference, the overall death
>    rate among German prisoners was 1 percent.
>
>    Mr. Cowdrey's conclusion, strongly supported by another conference
>    participant, Maj. Ruediger Overmans of the German Office of
>    Military History in Freiburg (who is writing the final volume of
>    the official Germany history of the war), is that the total death
>    by all causes of German prisoners in American hands could not have
>    been greater than 56,000.
>
>    Finally, there is the matter of the column of figures in the weekly
>    reports of the United States Army Theater Provost Marshal entitled
>    "Other Losses." It is here that Mr. Bacque finds his "missing
>    million."
>
>    What were the "other losses?" Mr. Bacque interviewed Philip S.
>    Lauben, a retired Army colonel who was a member of the German
>    Affairs Branch of Eisenhower's headquarters in 1945. He writes that
>    Colonel Lauben told him "other losses" meant "deaths and escapes."
>
>    "How many escapes?"  Mr. Bacque asked.
>
>    "Very, very minor," Colonel Lauben replied. Mr. Bacque says they
>    were less than one-tenth of 1 percent, with no explanation of how
>    he arrived at such a figure.
>
>    Neil Cameron, the producer of the BBC documentary about "Other
>    Losses," told the conference that he had obtained from Mr. Bacque
>    the tape of the interview. It seemed clear to Mr. Cameron that Mr.
>    Bacque had got an old man to agree with words that Mr. Bacque used
>    and then put in his mouth. Mr. Cameron did his own on-camera
>    interview with Colonel Lauben; in it, Colonel Lauben said he was
>    misled by Mr. Bacque and was wrong about the meaning of the term
>    "other losses."
>
>    David Hawkins of CNN wanted to do an interview with Colonel Lauben.
>    Colonel Lauben turned him down, explaining in a letter "I'm not
>    being difficult. I am 91 years old, legally blind, and my memory
>    has lapsed to a point where it is quite unreliable. Furthermore I
>    am under regular medical care. Often during my talk with Mr.
>    Bacque I reminded him that my memory had deteriorated badly during
>    the 40 odd years since 1945.
>
>    "Mr. Bacque read to me figures...It seemed to me that, after
>    accounting for transfers and discharges, there was nothing left to
>    make up the grand total except deaths and escapes, i.e. the term
>    'Other Losses.' I was mistaken."
>
>    Thus, Mr. Bacque's only witness for the charge that "other losses"
>    was a cover-up term for deaths has twice repudiated what Mr. Bacque
>    maintains that he said.
>
>    What then were the "other losses?" In many cases they were
>    transfers from one zone to another, something that was regularly
>    done for a variety of reasons, none of them sinister, and all duly
>    recorded in footnotes on the weekly reports.
>
>    But the greatest number of "other losses" is revealed in the August
>    1945 Report of the Military Governor. (These monthly reports are in
>    the Eisenhower Library in Abilene, Kan., in the National Archives
>    in Washington and elsewhere; they are a basic source on every
>    aspect of the occupation, including food shortages and prisoners.
>    Mr. Bacque did not cite them and there is no evidence he examined
>    them.) The August report lists the numbers of disarmed enemy forces
>    discharged by American forces and those transferred to the British
>    and French for forced labor.
>
>    The report continues: "An additional group of 663,576 are listed as
>    'other losses,' consisting largely of members of the Volksturm
>    [Peoples' Militia], released without formal discharge."
>
>    It takes little imagination to see what happened here. The People's
>    Militia consisted of older men (up to 80 years of age, mainly World
>    War I veterans) and boys of 16 or sometimes less. American guards
>    and camp authorities told the old men to go home and take care of
>    their grandchildren, the boys to go home and return to school.
>    Along with the transfers to other zones that Mr. Bacque ignores,
>    these people account for all the "missing million."
>
>    In short, Mr. Bacque is wrong on every major charge and nearly all
>    his minor ones. Eisenhower was not a Hitler, he did not run death
>    camps, German prisoners did not die by the hundreds of thousands,
>    there was a severe food shortage in 1945, there was nothing
>    sinister or secret about the "disarmed enemy forces" designation or
>    about the column "other losses." Mr. Bacque's "missing million"
>    were old men and young boys in the militia.
>
>    Nevertheless, Mr. Bacque makes a point that is irrefutable: some
>    American G.I.'s and their officers were capable of acting in almost
>    as brutal a manner as the Nazis. We did not have a monopoly on
>    virtue. He has challenged us to reopen the question, to do the
>    research required, to get at the full truth. For that contribution,
>    he deserves thanks. But as to how he presented his discovery, I
>    turn again to Albert Cowdrey: "Surely the author has reason to be
>    satisfied with his achievement. He has no reputation as a historian
>    to lose, and "Other Losses" can only enhance his standing as a
>    writer of fiction."
>
>    There remains, finally, the larger issue. It took a conference of
>    experts to challenge Mr. Bacque's charges. Individual scholars have
>    hesitated to take him on because to do so required checking through
>    his research - in effect, rewriting his book. Instead, many of them
>    have said in their reviews in Britain, France, Germany and Canada
>    that they cannot believe what Mr. Bacque says about Eisenhower is
>    true, but they cannot disprove it. Mr. Bacque has all the
>    paraphernalia of scholarship; it looks impressive enough to
>    bamboozle even scholars.
>
>    Under these circumstances, what is a lay reader to do? I suggest
>    that he or she trust common sense. As when confronting the
>    Holocaust-never-happened school, ask the obvious questions. If the
>    answers aren't clear, the charges have not been proved. In Mr.
>    Bacque's case, two such questions are: Where are the bodies? and Is
>    this book consistent with our picture of Eisenhower's character as
>    we know it from innumberable other sources? Ultimately, in cases
>    such as this one, it is often the obvious questions that bring us
>    closest to the truth.
>
> (end quote)
>
> --
> Philip Mathews
>
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:44 EST 2002
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You have the same rotten attitude like most Americans I know and it
going to your head.
To become freed by the Americans is not absolutely free there are always
concessions.

Like with Germany if the Cold War against the Russian would not have
Started the outcome
as such would have been totally different then it was then.
Winston Churchill wanted to Convert Germany in to a Agrar State the same
as after
the First world war. And of course the Sanctions then was what let to
the second word war.

Kurt Knoll.
===========

"SW"  wrote in message
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>
> Kurt Knoll  wrote in message
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> > This was 2 years after the war SW and not at war time. Do you really
> > think we had a lot more
> > to eat in the cities.
>
>
>
> Did I say it was during the war, you brainless fool?  Over half a
century
> and you haven't been able to figure out why you were chased away by an
> American sentry?  If it hadn't been for the Americans, you and your
equally
> braindead brother WOULD have been starved to death - by the Russians,
you
> ungrateful wretch.  How the same country could produce people like
> Beethoven, Mozart and Goethe and then go on to produce people like the
Knoll
> brothers is incomprehensible.
>
>
>
> >
> > When someone can sell you the Bible then they also can sell you the
> > Holocaust ?.
>
>
>
> It doesn't bother you at all that you post nonsense, does it,
Knucklehead?
>
> sw
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> >
> > Kurt Knoll.
> > =============
> > "SW"  wrote in message
> > news:stOS7.270570$ez.37781452@news1.rdc1.nj.home.com...
> > >
> > > Werner Knoll  wrote in message
> > > news:3C1B9174.8E7B51DB@telus.net...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > William Daffer wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Richard Phillips  writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > [snip]
> > > > >
> > > > > > =================================================
> > > > > > Phillips
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can someone tell me just what that "change" was.
> > > > >
> > > > >   *Bwahahahahahahah*
> > > > >
> > > > >   There was no change. He was confused about the difference
> > between a
> > > > >   calorie and a kilo-calorie, also written as Calorie.
> > > > >
> > > > > > I have always supposed that a gm-calorie/kg-calorie is the
heat
> > > > > > necessary to warm 1 gm/1 kg of water through 1 degree
Celsius.
> > Has
> > > > > > this definition changed?
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >   It's not a 'gm-calorie' and a 'kg-calorie.' The latter
doesn't
> > > > >   exist. The spelling 'calorie' is always used when the unit
of
> > mass
> > > > >   is a gram and 'Calorie' when it's a kilogram.
> > > > >
> > > > > whd
> > > >
> > > > I have in my hands a proclamation by the City of Nürnberg about
the
> > > > ration we are entitled to:
> > > >
> > > > Rations from 23. June to 20. July 1947:
> > > >
> > > > Adults:
> > > >
> > > > Bread 6000 gr
> > > > Fat 200 gr
> > > > Meat 400 gr
> > > > Victuals 800 gr
> > > > Cheese 125 gr
> > > > Sugar 500 gr
> > > > Coffee --  gr
> > > > Potato        10000 gr
> > > > Skim Milk 3 Liter
> > > > Fish 500 gr
> > > >
> > > > Can you spend some time to find out how many Calories this are?
> > > >
> > > > Kurt and I can tell you, we were almost killed  for stealing
table
> > > > scraps from the American soup kitchen.
> > > >
> > > > Werner Knoll
> > > > Whom Jewish Organizations seek to destroy, they expose to
Jeffrey G.
> > > > Brown, Ken McVay's foreskin.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Figure it out yourself.  Obviously, it wasn't the starvation diet
you
> > and
> > > your Nazi pals dished out to your prisoners.  After all, you and
your
> > > retarded brother are still here whining about it.
> > >
> > > sw
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>




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Well I bought the book and read it and compared it what I know.


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The Book says Jeffery Brown is Brain sick.

Kurt Knoll.

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From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:45 EST 2002
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Mathews take a good look at yourself how much credibility do you have by
distorting the facts.

In the case of the German Prisoners food was available but was denied by
orders of Eisenhower.
Orders were given to shoot anyone who did try to supply food from the
surrounding Villages.

And Eye Witness a Friend of mine living in Calgary Alberta was in this
prison camp
near the River Rhine.

He told me what he has seen himself. Some Prisoners that were a little
bit stronger
were given extra rations so the could carry the Death away. He also seen
them undressing
some of the death and the stacking them up into a pile crosswise.

A film Crew came and shoot this scenery latter here in Canada he has
seen the scene
as part of a holocaust movie.

Kurt Knoll.
=============
"Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
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> "Werner Knoll"  wrote in message
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> >
> >
> > Philip Mathews wrote:
> > >
> > > "Werner Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > news:3C1C312B.2C46CAEE@telus.net...
> > >
> > > > Philip Mathews wrote:
> >
> > > > > > >    average food consumption in the Western Zones is now
about
> > > > > > >    one-third below the generally accepted subsistence
level."
> The
> > > > > > >    September report declares, "Food from indigenous
sources was
> not
> > > > > > >    available to meet the present authorized ration level
for the
> > > > > > >    normal consumer, of 1,550 calories per day."
> > > >
> > > > Sending children an women who like to help away and burning
unused
> food
> > > > supplies so we could not get at it was the American way in 1945.
I was
> > > > one who was end away 12 years old at that time!
> > >
> > > Your allegations, given you total lack of credibility, are
worthless.
> >
> > Sure... At 12 we were suppose to be Nazis and had to be denazified
and
> > now you are telling me we have no memory of what we were doing at
this
> > age? You are totally fucked up!
>
> I'm telling you you're a liar and your word is good for nothing.
>
>
> > Perhaps being bombed at and shot at is all a dream?
>
> Ah, so you wish me to accord you're eyewitness testimony a degree of
> credibilty you deny to Holocaust survivors, and even to SS who
admitted
> their crimes.
>
> > > > Your Eisenhower was a Dreckschwein! If I were able to travel, I
would
> be
> > > > pissing on his grave. What a rotten bastard he was!
> > >
> > > Eisenhower in his grave is a better man than you.
> >
> > He is pushing daisies now and he still was a Bastard!
>
> You will be in a similar position before too much longer, and with you
will
> pass a hatred no longer endemic to Germany.
>
> > > > > lying, distorting, or misinterpreting the evidence. Bacque has
been
> > > > > thoroughly discredited.
> > >
> > > > And this writer has more dignity than 6 million JEWS! He must
have
> done
> > > > something right for being hounded by GANGSTER ORGANIZATIONS!
> > >
> > > A man who is incompetent, and puts words into the mouths of key
> witnesses
> > > has no dignity. He's hounded by all who respect truth over lies.
> >
> > Talk to your dog handler to give you more rope.
>
> If you have nothing better to say, why bother?
>
> > > > > I note you have no comment for the complete refutation of
Bacque by
> > > > > historians!
> > >
> > > > Historians accredited by Jewish Gangster Organizations
> > >
> > > Nothing left but mindless allegations I see.
> >
> > Really? :-)))))
> > >
> > > According to you the whole world is controlled by "Jewish Gangster
> > > Organizations"!
> > >
> > > You really are pathetic.
>
> > They sure know how to throw their weight around!
>
> No, the majority populations among whom they live also recognize you
and
> yours for the filth you are.
>
> --
> Philip Mathews
>
>
>
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:45 EST 2002
Article: 1288451 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Jeffery you are the biggest two faced liar I have ever meet in my live.

More and More you sound like a Jewish Heckler.

You are absolutely sick now you call James Bacque liar.

Have a good look at your Mushroom Face you look like a Vegetable to me.

Kurt Knoll.
=======
"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
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> In article <3C1C312B.2C46CAEE@telus.net>, Naziboy Knoll

> wrote:
>
> > Sending children an women who like to help away and burning unused
food
> > supplies so we could not get at it was the American way in 1945.
>
> Prove it, Naziboy. Your alleged eyewitness account is worthless. You
are a known
> liar.
>
> > [...deletia...]
>
> > > Bacque has been thoroughly discredited.
> >
> > And this writer has more dignity than 6 million JEWS!
>
> Bacque is a liar and an incompetent -- just like you, Naziboy.
>
> JGB
>
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown
jeffreygbrown@mailandnews.com
> For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
> to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
> To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study",
1997




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:46 EST 2002
Article: 1288466 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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You are a poor liar Mathews it was just after spring time in April 1945
when the German Prisoners of
war were starved to death. So hoax about rationing for winter is not
relevant.

Listening to you is like listening to the Americans right after the war.


> Food was denied above a certain amount to ensure it would last the
winter.
> And the captured German troops had their daily caloric intake reduced
to
> match what German civilian and millions of displaced persons were
allotted.

Kurt Knoll.
==========

"Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
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>
> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> news:3c1cc811_1@binaries.vphos.net...
>
> > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
> > news:m13T7.13879$Sj1.8585871@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > > "Werner Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > news:3C1C35AF.9ED61EAE@telus.net...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Philip Mathews wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > "Werner Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > > > news:3C1C312B.2C46CAEE@telus.net...
> > > > >
> > > > > > Philip Mathews wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > > > >    average food consumption in the Western Zones is
now
> > about
> > > > > > > > >    one-third below the generally accepted subsistence
> > level."
> > > The
> > > > > > > > >    September report declares, "Food from indigenous
> > sources was
> > > not
> > > > > > > > >    available to meet the present authorized ration
level
> > for the
> > > > > > > > >    normal consumer, of 1,550 calories per day."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sending children an women who like to help away and burning
> > unused
> > > food
> > > > > > supplies so we could not get at it was the American way in
1945.
> > I was
> > > > > > one who was end away 12 years old at that time!
> > > > >
> > > > > Your allegations, given you total lack of credibility, are
> > worthless.
> > > >
> > > > Sure... At 12 we were suppose to be Nazis and had to be
denazified
> > and
> > > > now you are telling me we have no memory of what we were doing
at
> > this
> > > > age? You are totally fucked up!
> > >
> > > I'm telling you you're a liar and your word is good for nothing.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Perhaps being bombed at and shot at is all a dream?
> > >
> > > Ah, so you wish me to accord you're eyewitness testimony a degree
of
> > > credibilty you deny to Holocaust survivors, and even to SS who
> > admitted
> > > their crimes.
> > >
> > > > > > Your Eisenhower was a Dreckschwein! If I were able to
travel, I
> > would
> > > be
> > > > > > pissing on his grave. What a rotten bastard he was!
> > > > >
> > > > > Eisenhower in his grave is a better man than you.
> > > >
> > > > He is pushing daisies now and he still was a Bastard!
> > >
> > > You will be in a similar position before too much longer, and with
you
> > will
> > > pass a hatred no longer endemic to Germany.
> > >
> > > > > > > lying, distorting, or misinterpreting the evidence. Bacque
has
> > been
> > > > > > > thoroughly discredited.
> > > > >
> > > > > > And this writer has more dignity than 6 million JEWS! He
must
> > have
> > > done
> > > > > > something right for being hounded by GANGSTER ORGANIZATIONS!
> > > > >
> > > > > A man who is incompetent, and puts words into the mouths of
key
> > > witnesses
> > > > > has no dignity. He's hounded by all who respect truth over
lies.
> > > >
> > > > Talk to your dog handler to give you more rope.
> > >
> > > If you have nothing better to say, why bother?
> > >
> > > > > > > I note you have no comment for the complete refutation of
> > Bacque by
> > > > > > > historians!
> > > > >
> > > > > > Historians accredited by Jewish Gangster Organizations
> > > > >
> > > > > Nothing left but mindless allegations I see.
> > > >
> > > > Really? :-)))))
> > > > >
> > > > > According to you the whole world is controlled by "Jewish
Gangster
> > > > > Organizations"!
> > > > >
> > > > > You really are pathetic.
> > >
> > > > They sure know how to throw their weight around!
> > >
> > > No, the majority populations among whom they live also recognize
you
> > and
> > > yours for the filth you are.
>
> > Mathews take a good look at yourself how much credibility do you
have by
> > distorting the facts.
>
> But that's a lie Knoll. I do not.
>
> > In the case of the German Prisoners food was available but was
denied by
> > orders of Eisenhower.
>
> Food was denied above a certain amount to ensure it would last the
winter.
> And the captured German troops had their daily caloric intake reduced
to
> match what German civilian and millions of displaced persons were
allotted.
>
> > Orders were given to shoot anyone who did try to supply food from
the
> > surrounding Villages.
>
> Oh, so you were trying to supply food to the displaced persons in
camps?
>
> A limited supply of food has to be controlled to enable far
distribution of
> it.
>
> > And Eye Witness a Friend of mine living in Calgary Alberta was in
this
> > prison camp
> > near the River Rhine.
>
> And many thousands of Jews resided in camps, where they witnessed the
> cruelties of the Nazi SS.
>
> > He told me what he has seen himself. Some Prisoners that were a
little
> > bit stronger
> > were given extra rations so the could carry the Death away. He also
seen
> > them undressing
> > some of the death and the stacking them up into a pile crosswise.
>
> Yup, some deaths did occur. Millions of deaths occurred in Nazi camps
as a
> deliberate policy of the Nazi state. The evidence for those is far
more
> substantial that what you are offering.
>
> You would have just a little more credibility if you weren't so
obviously
> exhibiting a double standard with respect to the types of evidence you
> believe should be acceptable for post war German soldier deaths, but
which
> you deny for the Holocaust.
>
> --
> Philip Mathews
>
>
>
>
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:46 EST 2002
Article: 1288467 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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In the case of the German Prisoners food was available but was denied by
orders of Eisenhower.

Kurt Knoll.
====

"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
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[deletia]





From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:46 EST 2002
Article: 1288469 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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You are absolutely sick now you call James Bacque liar.

Kurt Knoll.


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[deletia]
.




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:47 EST 2002
Article: 1288500 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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In the case of the German Prisoners food was available but was denied by
orders of Eisenhower.
>
Kurt Knoll.
=============
"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
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[snip]





From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:47 EST 2002
Article: 1288504 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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After stripping the German prisoners of their
Prisoner-of-war status (to which they were certainly entitled) and
instead
designating them as Disarmed Enemy Forces, thus conveniently removing
them
>from the protection of the Geneva Convention.

And the were charged with crimes as civilians. In this case Terrorists
that were killed by the
German Army were nit considered Terrorists but civilians and the
Soldiers were not covered und the
Geneva Convention and therefore all were Convicted as a Civilian Crime.

This did not Apply to the American Troops that killed German Civilians.

Get the Hind now how the American Way works.

Kurt Knoll.
=================
>

"Richard Phillips"  wrote in message
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>
>
> "Jeffrey G. Brown" wrote:
>
> > In article <3c1cc811_1@binaries.vphos.net>, "Lying Shit Knoll"
> >  wrote:
> >
> > > In the case of the German Prisoners food was available but was
denied by
> > > orders of Eisenhower.
> >
> > And where is the evidence for this claim, lying shit?
> >
> > JGB
>
> ================================================
> Phillips
>
> We might begin with Eisenhower's stripping German prisoners of their
> Prisoner-of-war status (to which they were certainly entitled) and
instead
> designating them as Disarmed Enemy Forces, thus conveniently removing
them
> from the protection of the Geneva Convention.
>
> For this action I can think of no justification nor do I know of any
provision
> or precedent in International law. (Please correct me if I have over
looked
> something.)
>
> If it was the case that Eisenhower did this on orders from his
civilian
> superiors, then I will reply that any commander possessed of both
balls and
> some sense of military honour would have defied such an order.
>
> =============================================
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:48 EST 2002
Article: 1288507 of alt.revisionism
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Translation: Jeffery Brown does not have a glue what it is all about.

Kurt Knoll.
==================
"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
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> In article <3C1CF1B0.CCE9448E@earthlink.net>, Richard G. 'Thank God
for those
> murders' Phillips  wrote:
>
> > "Jeffrey G. Brown" wrote:
> >
> > > In article <3c1cc811_1@binaries.vphos.net>, "Lying Shit Knoll"
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > > > In the case of the German Prisoners food was available but was
denied
> > > > by
> > > > orders of Eisenhower.
> > >
> > > And where is the evidence for this claim, lying shit?
> > >
> > > JGB
> >
> > ================================================
> > Phillips
> >
> > We might begin with Eisenhower's stripping German prisoners of their
> > Prisoner-of-war status (to which they were certainly entitled) and
instead
> > designating them as Disarmed Enemy Forces, thus conveniently
removing them
> > from the protection of the Geneva Convention.
>
> Translation: Phillips has no evidence that Eisenhower gave orders
denying food
> to German prisoners of war.
>
> > For this action I can think of no justification nor do I know of any
> > provision or precedent in International law.
>
> Phillips has spent more than seventy years protecting its ignorance.
That it
> doesn't know something fails to astonish.
>
> > (Please correct me if I have over looked something.)
>
> Phillips overlooks the need for evidence for the specific accusation.
This, of
> course, surprises no one.
>
> JGB
>
> ---------
>
> Richard "Thank God for those murders" Phillips expresses his
condolences to the
> World Trade Center victims:
>
>    "As for your priceless World Trade Center... my only regret
>     is that they didn't demolish the obscenities totally by
>     crashing into them at a much lower point."
>
>             -- From: "Richard G. Phillips" 
>             -- Subject: Re: Regarding Tuesday's terrorist attack
>             -- Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 14:56:37 GMT
>             -- Message-ID: <3BA0C85C.BC6E764C@earthlink.net>
>
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown
jeffreygbrown@mailandnews.com
> For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
> to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
> To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study",
1997




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:48 EST 2002
Article: 1288529 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.politics,us.politics
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Subject: Re: Lying Shit Knoll still fact-free
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Yes Swindler Jeffery Brown Bacque has documentatin to support his
writings.
What  do you have ?.

Kurt Knoll.
============
"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
news:jeffreygbrown-E2614D.14323316122001@news.alt.net...
> In article <3C1CF2ED.4604174E@telus.net>, Naziboy Knoll

> wrote:
>
> > "Crimes and Mercies" by James Bacque
>
> Bacque is a known liar. His distorted views of history have long since
been
> debunked. He resembles you to a great degree, Werner.
>
> Do you have any credible evidence, Naziboy?
>
> JGB
>
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown
jeffreygbrown@mailandnews.com
> For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
> to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
> To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study",
1997




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:48 EST 2002
Article: 1288530 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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On you Computer Jeffery.

Kurt Knoll.
============
"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
news:jeffreygbrown-D00241.14540416122001@news.alt.net...
> In article <3c1cf8d3$1_1@binaries.vphos.net>, "Lying Shit Knoll"
>  wrote:
>
> > In the case of the German Prisoners food was available but was
denied by
> > orders of Eisenhower.
>
> Can we examine the original orders, lying shit?
>
> If so, where are the originals kept?
>
> Run away, imbecile...
>
> JGB
>
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown
jeffreygbrown@mailandnews.com
> For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
> to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
> To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study",
1997




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:49 EST 2002
Article: 1288532 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Sure you can just go and visit the Archives.

Kurt Knoll.
============
"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
news:jeffreygbrown-824849.15201516122001@news.alt.net...
> In article <3c1cfbbf_1@binaries.vphos.net>, "Lying Shit Knoll"
>  wrote:
>
> > [...deletia: evasion...]
>
> Can we examine Eisenhower's original orders to deny food to the German
prisoners
> of war, lying shit?
>
> JGB
>
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown
jeffreygbrown@mailandnews.com
> For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
> to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
> To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study",
1997




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:49 EST 2002
Article: 1288533 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Well if they were no signatory to the Geneva Convention how could they
then join the War.

Kurt Knoll.
===========
"E. Barry Bruyea"  wrote in message
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> On Sun, 16 Dec 2001 19:03:47 GMT, Richard Phillips
>  wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >"Jeffrey G. Brown" wrote:
> >
> >> In article <3c1cc811_1@binaries.vphos.net>, "Lying Shit Knoll"
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >> > In the case of the German Prisoners food was available but was
denied by
> >> > orders of Eisenhower.
> >>
> >> And where is the evidence for this claim, lying shit?
> >>
> >> JGB
> >
> >================================================
> >Phillips
> >
> >We might begin with Eisenhower's stripping German prisoners of their
> >Prisoner-of-war status (to which they were certainly entitled) and
instead
> >designating them as Disarmed Enemy Forces, thus conveniently removing
them
> >from the protection of the Geneva Convention.
>
> Which, at the time, the U.S. was not a signatory.
> >
> >For this action I can think of no justification nor do I know of any
provision
> >or precedent in International law. (Please correct me if I have over
looked
> >something.)
> >
> >If it was the case that Eisenhower did this on orders from his
civilian
> >superiors, then I will reply that any commander possessed of both
balls and
> >some sense of military honour would have defied such an order.
> >
> >=============================================
> >
> >
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:50 EST 2002
Article: 1288537 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Which one my lovely Jeffery honey.

Kurt Knoll.
===========
"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
news:jeffreygbrown-A7D23D.12513416122001@news.alt.net...
> In article <3c1cd9ce_2@binaries.vphos.net>, "Lying Shit Knoll"
>  wrote:
>
> > [...deletia...]
>
> Repeat your lie again, Kurtsie.
>
> JGB
>
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown
jeffreygbrown@mailandnews.com
> For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
> to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
> To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study",
1997




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:50 EST 2002
Article: 1288563 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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If they are not in your house go and look for it.

Kurt Knoll.
=============
"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
news:jeffreygbrown-0596DC.16151116122001@news.alt.net...
> In article <3c1d0845_1@binaries.vphos.net>, "Lying Shit Knoll"
>  wrote:
>
> > "Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
> > news:jeffreygbrown-824849.15201516122001@news.alt.net...
> > > In article <3c1cfbbf_1@binaries.vphos.net>, "Lying Shit Knoll"
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > > > [...deletia: evasion...]
> > >
> > > Can we examine Eisenhower's original orders to deny food to the
German prisoners
> > > of war, lying shit?
>
> > Sure you can just go and visit the Archives.
>
> What "Archives", lying shit? Give the specific location.
>
> Stay stupid, bigot...
>
> JGB
>
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown
jeffreygbrown@mailandnews.com
> For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
> to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
> To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study",
1997




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:50 EST 2002
Article: 1288566 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Is  Stephen Ambrose  you friend where can I find out more about him.

Kurt Knoll.
===============
"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
news:jeffreygbrown-8F3764.15545616122001@news.alt.net...
> In article <3c1d07b0_2@binaries.vphos.net>, "Lying Shit Knoll"
>  wrote:
>
> > Yes Swindler Jeffery Brown Bacque has documentatin to support his
> > writings.
>
> Wrong, lying shit. As Stephen Ambrose and others have demonstrated,
the
> documentation that Bacque uses does *not* support his claims.
>
> Can we examine Eisenhower's original orders to deny food to German
prisoners of
> war, lying shit?
>
> JGB
>
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown
jeffreygbrown@mailandnews.com
> For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
> to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
> To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study",
1997




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:51 EST 2002
Article: 1288641 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Do you really think I am the only one interested in this ?.

Just the other day America vetoed an other UN Decision contemning the
Israelis for the
Actions against Palestine.

Can you tell me with certainty the Jewish Influence on the White House
has nothing to do with it.
Engage your Brain before you open your mouth.

Kurt Knoll.
============

"Don Wagner"  wrote in message
news:b8aT7.11526$cv4.216834@news1.calgary.shaw.ca...
>
> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> news:3c1bd5f4_2@binaries.vphos.net...
> > When Richard Nixon first moved in to the White House his first words
> > were oh my gosh they are all
> > Jewish you cant trust does guys.
> >
> > While Flying to Toronto one time I read the Time magazine where it
said
> > 80% of the
> > Whitehouse staff is Jewish.
> >
> > Is it possible to get a Listing of Whitehouse Staff Members and
their
> > Affiliations.
>
> It is even possible to get the total of your functiong brain cells
what with the
> new generation of supercomputers being able to deal with vanishingly
> small numbers
>
> Don Wagner
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:51 EST 2002
Article: 1288644 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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The Nazis do not have the Gas wagons that were left after the war you
guys have.

Kurt Knoll.
=======
"Jeff Teeple"  wrote in message
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>
> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> news:3c172d51_1@binaries.vphos.net...
> > You are a little bit naive. What Kenneth McVay does is practicing
> > hate by discrediting all that
> > want revision. As for your Gas Vans you are wrong again provide
> > proof not hearsay.
> >
> > Kurt Knoll.
>
> The onus of proof is on you nazi. Put up or shut up.
>
> Jeff
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:52 EST 2002
Article: 1288647 of alt.revisionism
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Jeffery you are not a simple Idiot but a full Idiot. I have but enough
Pamphlets of what you say
in circulation. Now English and Scotch people I know ask me for more
info about it when they
see me shopping. And all of this thanks to you and your ignorant
stupidity.

Kurt Knoll.
===========
"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
news:jeffreygbrown-963BA7.17045016122001@news.alt.net...
> In article <3C1D1334.F3FB9531@earthlink.net>, Richard G. 'Thank God
for those
> murders' Phillips  wrote:
>
> > "Jeffrey G. Brown" wrote:
> >
> > > In article <3C1D0148.31FF10B9@earthlink.net>, Richard G. 'Thank
God for
> > > those murders' Phillips  wrote:
> > >
> > > > You have made the statements that (a) Bacque is a liar and (b)
that he
> > > > has been "debunked."
> > > >
> > > > So?
> > >
> > > So, it's no surprise that I would have to explain to Richard
Phillips,
> > > itself a proven liar, that the claims of a liar are worthless.
> >
> > =========================================
> > Phillips
> >
> > You have not established that Bacque IS a liar.
>
> I haven't had to, since experts far better versed in the matter than I
have
> already done so.
>
> JGB
>
> ---------
>
> Richard "Thank God for those murders" Phillips expresses his
condolences to the
> World Trade Center victims:
>
>    "As for your priceless World Trade Center... my only regret
>     is that they didn't demolish the obscenities totally by
>     crashing into them at a much lower point."
>
>             -- From: "Richard G. Phillips" 
>             -- Subject: Re: Regarding Tuesday's terrorist attack
>             -- Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 14:56:37 GMT
>             -- Message-ID: <3BA0C85C.BC6E764C@earthlink.net>
>
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown
jeffreygbrown@mailandnews.com
> For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
> to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
> To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study",
1997




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:52 EST 2002
Article: 1288648 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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You should learn how to read first Jeffery and  the talk.

Kurt Knoll.
==========
"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
news:jeffreygbrown-856064.17032516122001@news.alt.net...
> In article <3C1D11FE.87256E28@earthlink.net>, Richard G. 'Thank God
for those
> murders' Phillips  wrote:
>
> > "Jeffrey G. Brown" wrote:
>
> > [...deletia...]
>
> > > Can we examine Eisenhower's original orders to deny food to German
> > > prisoners of war, lying shit?
>
> > [...deletia...]
>
> > Possibly you have not as yet learned it, but there are certain
matters that
> > *are* put into written orders and certain matters that are not. That
is how the
> > world of armies (and of large institutions, generally) run and if
you have not as
> > yet learned this, then you are very foolish to make public property
of your
> > ignorance.
>
> Phillips has again demonstrated the essential hypocrisy of the bigot.
Until
> today, it has maintained that actions that lead to the mass deaths of
> noncombantants MUST be accompanied by written orders, and it has
derided the
> very position it has today chosen to take:
>
>
>    "Things like exterminations are NOT put into execution by nudge and
wink.
>    Show me the signed order."
>
>             -- From: Richard Phillips 
>             -- Subject: Re: Phillips' dual standards of "proof"
>                         (was Re: Liar Philllips' big yellow stripe)
>             -- Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 00:05:52 -0500
>             -- Message-ID: <382CF1B0.B09F3F0F@mediaone.net>
>
>
>    "Lacking that order, the Holocaustniks have had to try and make out
that the
>    orders were communicated by nudge and wink, by a sort of
bureaucratic
>    telepathy. Try something else.
>
>             -- From: "Richard G. Phillips" 
>             -- Subject: Re: Phillips to Brown - belated reply
>             -- Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 02:21:11 GMT
>             -- Message-ID: <3942F6E0.CD932E81@home.com>
>
>
>    "Oh, yes, we've all heard about their secret code-language, how it
was
>    all done by a sort of mass bureaucratic telepathy, by nudge and
wink,
>    you might say.
>
>             -- From: "Richard G. Phillips" 
>             -- Subject: Re: CODOH College Project
>             -- Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2000 01:59:22 GMT
>             -- Message-ID: <395EA118.BF2586E@home.com>
>
>
>    "And you tell us that all of this  was a part of a whole, of a
master
>    plan. A master plan, moreover, passed around not by precise written
>    orders, by some system of nudge and wink, of telepathy."
>
>             -- From: "Richard G. Phillips" 
>             -- Subject: Re: Deniers - where is the evidence?
>             -- Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 16:44:28 GMT
>             -- Message-ID: <3AA7B5A9.CCE20E83@verizon.net>
>
>
>    "Such things are NOT handled by word-of-mouth, by nudge and wink,
>    not in any army..."
>
>             -- From: "Richard G. Phillips" 
>             -- Subject: Re: Deniers - where is the evidence?
>             -- Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 19:27:43 GMT
>             -- Message-ID: <3AA7DBF0.3622143F@verizon.net>
>
>
>    "All this done by means of nudge and wink, or perhaps by thought
>    transmission."
>
>             -- From: "Richard G. Phillips" 
>             -- Subject: Re: Phillips to Holman: Gas chambers: in
>                         Germany and outside of it
>             -- Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 12:39:26 GMT
>             -- Message-ID: <3ACEFDA6.EE2332A@earthlink.net>
>
>
>    "We are asked to believe that the whole thing was put into
execution
>    by nudge, wink, code language, and mass telepathy."
>
>             -- From: "Richard G. Phillips" 
>             -- Subject: Re: Phillips to Holman on who needs to
convince whom
>             -- Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 15:32:15 GMT
>             -- Message-ID: <3B6EB62C.D4CFFD81@earthlink.net>
>
>
> Thanks for your eager assistance in making your blatant hypocrisy so
evident,
> Phillips.
>
> JGB
>
> ---------
>
> Richard "Thank God for those murders" Phillips expresses his
condolences to the
> World Trade Center victims:
>
>    "As for your priceless World Trade Center... my only regret
>     is that they didn't demolish the obscenities totally by
>     crashing into them at a much lower point."
>
>             -- From: "Richard G. Phillips" 
>             -- Subject: Re: Regarding Tuesday's terrorist attack
>             -- Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 14:56:37 GMT
>             -- Message-ID: <3BA0C85C.BC6E764C@earthlink.net>
>
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown
jeffreygbrown@mailandnews.com
> For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
> to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
> To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study",
1997




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:52 EST 2002
Article: 1288650 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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You got proof of what you are saying ?.
I know German Prisoners that were in this camps do you ?.

Kurt Knoll.
=========
"Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
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> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> news:3c1cd516_2@binaries.vphos.net...
>
> > In the case of the German Prisoners food was available but was
denied by
> > orders of Eisenhower.
>
> No that's not the case. German prisoners calories were reduced to
equal that
> of German citizens and the millions of displaced persons the allies
were
> responsible before after the Nazi surrender in the war, started by
them,
> which caused the whole problem to begin with.
>
> --
> Philip Mathews
>
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:53 EST 2002
Article: 1288653 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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You are lying Joel not even the villagers around the camps were allowed
to supply food.

You should read the Book ?.

Kurt Knoll.
===========
"Joel Rosenberg"  wrote in message
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> "Philip Mathews"  writes:
>
> > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > news:3c1cd516_2@binaries.vphos.net...
> >
> > > In the case of the German Prisoners food was available but was
denied by
> > > orders of Eisenhower.
> >
> > No that's not the case. German prisoners calories were reduced to
equal that
> > of German citizens and the millions of displaced persons the allies
were
> > responsible before after the Nazi surrender in the war, started by
them,
> > which caused the whole problem to begin with.
> >
> > --
> > Philip Mathews
> >
> >
> >
>
> It's amazing how spoiled the Nazis were, that they could complain
> about something like that.
>
> But, in case anybody wonders if that's changed, we've still got the
> Knoll brothers to demonstrate that plus ca change, plus ca meme chose,
> eh?
> --
> -------------------------------------
> There's a widow in sleepy Chester
>   Who weeps for her only son;
> There's a grave on the Pabeng River,
>   A grave that the Burmans shun,
> And there's Subadar Prag Tewarri
>   Who tells how the work was done.
> -------------------------------------




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:53 EST 2002
Article: 1288666 of alt.revisionism
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Your food shortage is something you made up there is plenty of proof
there was enough food around but kept
back. And there is also the questions why German Farmers around the camp
were not allowed
to feed the Prisoners even thru the fence.
I was living in a German Village from 1943 till the end of the war and
we always collected food
for the people in the cities. So why was in not allowed to feed the
starving soldiers ?.

Kurt Knoll.
============
"Hartmann Schaffer"  wrote in message
news:3c1d4612@news.sentex.net...
> In article <3c1cd514_2@binaries.vphos.net>,
> "Kurt Knoll"  writes:
> > You are a poor liar Mathews it was just after spring time in April
1945
> > when the German Prisoners of
> > war were starved to death. So hoax about rationing for winter is not
> > relevant.
>
> has it occurred to your sorry excuse for a mind that the food supply
> problems for the winter could be anticipated already then?
>
> > Listening to you is like listening to the Americans right after the
war.
>
> and reading your garbage is like listening to goebbels
>
> hs
>
> --
>
> how are we defending our freedom and democracy by dismantling them?




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:53 EST 2002
Article: 1288669 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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If you had read Bacques Book there was an original copy of the order not
to feed the Prisoners.
The you would not be arguing here.

Kurt Knoll.
=========
"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
news:jeffreygbrown-5776A6.19141316122001@news.alt.net...
> In article <3C1D3725.2FF1FCD@earthlink.net>, Richard G. 'Thank God for
those
> murders' Phillips  wrote:
>
> > If that is all that was done, if that is al that was intended, then
> > what possible objection could Ike have had to prisoners' families
bringing them
> > food. Yet GI guards were under standitg orders to shoot any German
civilians
> > attempting this.
>
> Were those orders passed by wink, nudge, or mass telepathy, lying
bigot? History
> will want your studied opinion on the matter...
>
> JGB
>
> ---------
>
> Richard "Thank God for those murders" Phillips expresses his
condolences to the
> World Trade Center victims:
>
>    "As for your priceless World Trade Center... my only regret
>     is that they didn't demolish the obscenities totally by
>     crashing into them at a much lower point."
>
>             -- From: "Richard G. Phillips" 
>             -- Subject: Re: Regarding Tuesday's terrorist attack
>             -- Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 14:56:37 GMT
>             -- Message-ID: <3BA0C85C.BC6E764C@earthlink.net>
>
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown
jeffreygbrown@mailandnews.com
> For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
> to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
> To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study",
1997




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:54 EST 2002
Article: 1288670 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Go on make up a couple more stories if it pleases you.
There is more do it than  this you should read the whole book to be
properly informed
this way you would argue less.

Kurt Knoll.
=============
"Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
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> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> news:3c1cfb1a_1@binaries.vphos.net...
>
> > After stripping the German prisoners of their
> > Prisoner-of-war status (to which they were certainly entitled) and
> > instead
> > designating them as Disarmed Enemy Forces, thus conveniently
removing
> > them
> > from the protection of the Geneva Convention.
>
>
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/ftp.py?people//b/bacque.james/ambro
se.0
> 01
>
> According to Mr. Bacque, Eisenhower personally, secretly, and with
>    sinister intent changed the status of surrendered German soldiers
>    from prisoners of war to disarmed enemy forces. In fact, the change
>    in designation was a policy matter. The decision was made not by
>    Eisenhower but by his superiors, specifically by the European
>    Advisory Commission. Nor was any attempt made to keep it secret.
>    All those involved acted with the authority of the British, Russian
>    and American Governments, and they were perfectly straightforward
>    about the reason for the change in status.
>
>    What happened is simple enough: the Allies could not afford to feed
>    the millions of German prisoners at the same level at which they
>    were able to feed German civilians, not to mention the civilians of
>    the liberated countries of Western Europe, and not to mention as
>    well the displaced persons. But the United States and other Allied
>    nations had signed the Geneva Convention, which had the force of a
>    treaty. They did not wish to violate it, so they used the new
>    designation of "Disarmed Enemy Forces." The orders to the field
>    commanders were straighforward: do not feed the DEF's at a higher
>    scale than German civilians.
>
> (end quote)
>
> --
> Philip Mathews
>
>
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:54 EST 2002
Article: 1288712 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Can you prove the amount of food given to the prisoner at the Rhine Camp
was equal
the rations the German civilians received.

Do you have any witnesses to the effect I know the food rationing was
intentionally reduced
by the Americans and food was stored en mass but held back.

I was there you were not ?.

Kurt Knoll.
===========
"Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
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> "Joel Rosenberg"  wrote in message
> news:m2u1uqhjjn.fsf@msp-65-25-234-54.mn.rr.com...
>
> > "Philip Mathews"  writes:
> >
> > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > news:3c1cd516_2@binaries.vphos.net...
> > >
> > > > In the case of the German Prisoners food was available but was
denied
> by
> > > > orders of Eisenhower.
> > >
> > > No that's not the case. German prisoners calories were reduced to
equal
> that
> > > of German citizens and the millions of displaced persons the
allies were
> > > responsible before after the Nazi surrender in the war, started by
them,
> > > which caused the whole problem to begin with.
>
> > It's amazing how spoiled the Nazis were, that they could complain
> > about something like that.
> >
> > But, in case anybody wonders if that's changed, we've still got the
> > Knoll brothers to demonstrate that plus ca change, plus ca meme
chose,
> > eh?
>
> And what is most telling is the type of evidence they must resort to
to
> support their claims of improper treatment of German soldiers -
eyewitness
> testimony!!
>
> --
> Philip Mathews
>
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:55 EST 2002
Article: 1288716 of alt.revisionism
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Mathews if someone distorts facts it is you I have first hand experience
with the American con Game
try this one on some of your Cowboys you will have more success.

Kurt Knoll.
=========
"Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
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> "Richard Phillips"  wrote in message
> news:3C1D3725.2FF1FCD@earthlink.net...
>
>
> > Philip Mathews wrote:
> >
> > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > news:3c1cd516_2@binaries.vphos.net...
> > >
> > > > In the case of the German Prisoners food was available but was
denied
> by
> > > > orders of Eisenhower.
> > >
> > > No that's not the case. German prisoners calories were reduced to
equal
> that
> > > of German citizens and the millions of displaced persons the
allies were
> > > responsible before after the Nazi surrender in the war, started by
them,
> > > which caused the whole problem to begin with.
>
>
> > (1) If that is all that was done, if that is al that was intended,
then
> what
> > possible objection could Ike have had to prisoners' families
bringing them
> food.
>
> There was a food shortage. It was the goal of the United States to
ensure an
> equitable distribution of all food available. This required them to
maintain
> control of all available food, and all possible means of distribution.
>
> > (2) The situation of civilians and prisoners are fundamentally
different.
> > Civilians are free to trade what they can for food, free to go out
to the
> farms
> > and either work or cut whatever deals they can. Prisoners, on the
other
> hand,
> > are just that: prisoners. They get just what their captors choose to
give
> them
> > and not a scrap more.
>
> No, the situations are identical, since the US sought to control all
food
> supplies.Fairness dictated that any citizen possessing food in excess
of
> their needs turn it over to those responsible for feeding millions of
> people. There were millions of non German displaced persons in the US
> controlled territory for whom the US assumed responsibility.
>
> > If Ike had had any sense of military honour he would never have
allowed
> > prisoners in his custody to starve.
>
> Rubbish. Military honor does not magically produce food. The Nazis, on
the
> other hand, pursued a deliberate policy of starvation for much of the
war.
> Strange that you are not outraged about that. But then, you're not
very
> bright, nor honest.
>
> > (3) America had enormous reserve stocks of food and enormous
capacity to
> > transport those stocks where they were needed - what came to be
called
> > logistics
>
> No they did not.
>
> Why do you think it's alright to tell such ignorant lies whenever it
suits
> your purpose?
>
> Or do you really think that its just a matter of engaging the mouth
and
> letting it say whatever comes into your mind?
>
> --
> Philip Mathews
>
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:55 EST 2002
Article: 1288719 of alt.revisionism
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Patton did the only sensible thing he refused to carry out this order
after a little while.

Kurt Knoll.
============
"Richard Phillips"  wrote in message
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>
>
> Philip Mathews wrote:
>
> > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > news:3c1cfb1a_1@binaries.vphos.net...
> >
> > > After stripping the German prisoners of their
> > > Prisoner-of-war status (to which they were certainly entitled) and
> > > instead
> > > designating them as Disarmed Enemy Forces, thus conveniently
removing
> > > them
> > > from the protection of the Geneva Convention.
> >
> >
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/ftp.py?people//b/bacque.james/ambro
se.0
> > 01
> >
> > According to Mr. Bacque, Eisenhower personally, secretly, and with
> >    sinister intent changed the status of surrendered German soldiers
> >    from prisoners of war to disarmed enemy forces. In fact, the
change
> >    in designation was a policy matter. The decision was made not by
> >    Eisenhower but by his superiors, specifically by the European
> >    Advisory Commission. Nor was any attempt made to keep it secret.
> >    All those involved acted with the authority of the British,
Russian
> >    and American Governments, and they were perfectly straightforward
> >    about the reason for the change in status.
>
> =====================================================
> Phillips
>
> There was never the slightest justification for such an order nor was
there any
> precedent for it in Internatainal Law. The captured German soldiers
were
> prisoners-of-war --period--  and, as such, were entitled to the
protection of
> the Geneva Convention. If Eisenhower had had any character he would
not only
> have defied the order, he would have regarded it as an insult to his
military
> honour. Patton would certainly have treated it that way.
>
> ==========================================================
>
>
> >
> >
> >    What happened is simple enough: the Allies could not afford to
feed
> >    the millions of German prisoners at the same level at which they
> >    were able to feed German civilians, not to mention the civilians
of
> >    the liberated countries of Western Europe, and not to mention as
> >    well the displaced persons. But the United States and other
Allied
> >    nations had signed the Geneva Convention, which had the force of
a
> >    treaty. They did not wish to violate it, so they used the new
> >    designation of "Disarmed Enemy Forces." The orders to the field
> >    commanders were straighforward: do not feed the DEF's at a higher
> >    scale than German civilians.
>
> ===========================================
> Phillips
>
> (1) The Displaced Persons were not  our responsibility.
>
> (2) Neither were the citizens of the liberated countries. Those
countries had
> governments in place and it was their responsibility to feed their own
people.
>
> (3) Our responsibility was strictly for the civilians under our
occupation and
> the POWs (sorry, DEFs) in our custody.
>
> (4) Civilians are free to beg, borrow, or buy food from whomever they
can.
> Prisoners, on the other hand, are just that: prisoners. They get what
we feed
> them and only what we feed them. For that reason we have toward them a
> responsibility which, in some degree, trumps that toward civilians.
>
> (5) If what you say is true then what can justify the standing orders
to the GI
> guards to shoot any German civilians attempting to bring food to
prisoners. It
> is useless to tell me that there were no such orders; I have
personally spoken
> to ex GIs who were undr them.
>
> (6) America had enormous reserve stocks of food and superb rail and
shipping
> facilities for moving them where they were needed. If this was not
done, I am
> inclined to attribute it to a lakc of well.
>
> Sorry, but the whole business has about it too strong a smell of
Jewish
> vengeance.
>
> ===========================================
>
> (6)
>
> >
> >
> > (end quote)
> >
> > --
> > Philip Mathews
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:55 EST 2002
Article: 1288721 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Jeffery has a problem reading smoke signals he must first smell it
before he knows it.
A couple of times he mistakenly farted and mistook it as smoke signal.

Kurt Knoll.
===========
"Richard Phillips"  wrote in message
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>
>
> "Jeffrey G. Brown" wrote:
>
> > In article <3C1D3725.2FF1FCD@earthlink.net>, Richard G. 'Thank God
for those
> > murders' Phillips  wrote:
> >
> > > If that is all that was done, if that is al that was intended,
then
> > > what possible objection could Ike have had to prisoners' families
bringing them
> > > food. Yet GI guards were under standitg orders to shoot any German
civilians
> > > attempting this.
> >
> > Were those orders passed by wink, nudge, or mass telepathy, lying
bigot? History
> > will want your studied opinion on the matter...
> >
> > JGB
>
> =================================================
> Phillips
>
> It is useless for you to attempt to play the wiseass because you
haven't the talent
> for it and never will have.
>
> The answer to your question is that the orders were transmitted by
smoke signals.
>
> ============================================================
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:55 EST 2002
Article: 1288722 of alt.revisionism
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Philips has education you don't even have a Brain Jeffery.

Kurt Knoll.
===========
"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
news:jeffreygbrown-2284C9.21315916122001@news.alt.net...
> In article <3C1D5702.16787D2F@earthlink.net>, Richard G. 'Thank God
for those
> murders' Phillips  wrote:
>
> > The answer to your question is that the orders were transmitted by
smoke
> > signals.
>
> Richard Phillips has just posted yet another deliberate lie.
>
> You never tire of being discredited by your own stupidity, do you, old
fraud?
>
> JGB
>
> ---------
>
> Richard "Thank God for those murders" Phillips expresses his
condolences to the
> World Trade Center victims:
>
>    "As for your priceless World Trade Center... my only regret
>     is that they didn't demolish the obscenities totally by
>     crashing into them at a much lower point."
>
>             -- From: "Richard G. Phillips" 
>             -- Subject: Re: Regarding Tuesday's terrorist attack
>             -- Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 14:56:37 GMT
>             -- Message-ID: <3BA0C85C.BC6E764C@earthlink.net>
>
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown
jeffreygbrown@mailandnews.com
> For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
> to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
> To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study",
1997




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:56 EST 2002
Article: 1288747 of alt.revisionism
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You are really screwed up Mathews Your is the American way first you
screw people the you
convince the it is their own fault. I did hear this over and over again.
Your friend Jeffery Brown is a typical
example of how it works. There are Millions on both sides but it is you
first and foremost
objective to use dirty politics to discredit all that oppose you.

The more effort you but into it the less I and others will trust you and
it is already happening from
what I can see. I really does not matter what someone writes if it is
not what you like you attach everyone
and that makes people susprice.

Isn't it about time you try your sleaziness on someone else.

Kurt Knoll.
===========
"Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
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> "Richard Phillips"  wrote in message
> news:3C1D55FD.230FF219@earthlink.net...
>
>
> > Philip Mathews wrote:
> >
> > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > news:3c1cfb1a_1@binaries.vphos.net...
> > >
> > > > After stripping the German prisoners of their
> > > > Prisoner-of-war status (to which they were certainly entitled)
and
> > > > instead
> > > > designating them as Disarmed Enemy Forces, thus conveniently
removing
> > > > them
> > > > from the protection of the Geneva Convention.
> > >
> > >
>
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/ftp.py?people//b/bacque.james/ambro
se.0
> > > 01
> > >
> > > According to Mr. Bacque, Eisenhower personally, secretly, and with
> > >    sinister intent changed the status of surrendered German
soldiers
> > >    from prisoners of war to disarmed enemy forces. In fact, the
change
> > >    in designation was a policy matter. The decision was made not
by
> > >    Eisenhower but by his superiors, specifically by the European
> > >    Advisory Commission. Nor was any attempt made to keep it
secret.
> > >    All those involved acted with the authority of the British,
Russian
> > >    and American Governments, and they were perfectly
straightforward
> > >    about the reason for the change in status.
>
> > There was never the slightest justification for such an order nor
was
> there any
> > precedent for it in Internatainal Law.
>
> There was every justification for the order.  Existing designations
required
> the German prisoners of war to be given a daily caloric intake
impossible to
> match with millions of other Europeans under US control during a
massive
> food shortage. Any decent human being would recognize the ultimate
fairness
> of distributing limited food on an equal basis to all those in need.
>
>  >The captured German soldiers were
> > prisoners-of-war --period--  and, as such, were entitled to the
protection
> of
> > the Geneva Convention. If Eisenhower had had any character he would
not
> only
> > have defied the order, he would have regarded it as an insult to his
> military
> > honour. Patton would certainly have treated it that way.
>
> Defying the order would have meant providing millions of other human
beings
> with less than  life sustaining quantities of food simply to meet a
well
> intentioned, but improper standard in light of the food supply
situation.
>
>
> > >    What happened is simple enough: the Allies could not afford to
feed
> > >    the millions of German prisoners at the same level at which
they
> > >    were able to feed German civilians, not to mention the
civilians of
> > >    the liberated countries of Western Europe, and not to mention
as
> > >    well the displaced persons. But the United States and other
Allied
> > >    nations had signed the Geneva Convention, which had the force
of a
> > >    treaty. They did not wish to violate it, so they used the new
> > >    designation of "Disarmed Enemy Forces." The orders to the field
> > >    commanders were straighforward: do not feed the DEF's at a
higher
> > >    scale than German civilians.
>
> > (1) The Displaced Persons were not  our responsibility.
>
> That is not your decision to make. Ike, the US Army, and the US
government
> are not ignorant, heartless fucks, like you are.
> They made the proper decision.
>
> > (2) Neither were the citizens of the liberated countries. Those
countries
> had
> > governments in place and it was their responsibility to feed their
own
> people.
>
> They did not have governments in place. More pseudo-knowledge from the
idiot
> Phillips.
>
> > (3) Our responsibility was strictly for the civilians under our
occupation
> and
> > the POWs (sorry, DEFs) in our custody.
>
> Our responsiblity was whatever we decided it was, not what you wish.
Quite
> an American you are Phillips, wishing we had treated German soldiers
to a
> higher standard than the millions of displaced human beings destitute
> because of Nazi Germany's policies.
>
> > (4) Civilians are free to beg, borrow, or buy food from whomever
they can.
>
> No, they are not, not under a self governing proposition, and
certainly not
> under a military occupation.
>
> > (5) If what you say is true then what can justify the standing
orders to
> the GI
> > guards to shoot any German civilians attempting to bring food to
> prisoners.
>
> The control of food supplies under extreme conditions. If the citizens
had
> excess food, it belonged to all those who needed it.
>
> > (6) America had enormous reserve stocks of food and superb rail and
> shipping
> > facilities for moving them where they were needed.
>
> No it didn't. This is just your repeated lie from another post.
>
> You know Richard, at your age you have very little time left to
exhibit some
> intellectual honesty. And spewing lies just because you want to have
> something to say is not going to get you there.
>
> --
> Philip Mathews
>
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:56 EST 2002
Article: 1288752 of alt.revisionism
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Jeffery Brown you are getting Insulting primitive more by every day.
>From what I can
see and read Richard Philips is well educated whereas you are crude and
very primitive.

Since I subscripted to this newsgroup you have nothing but insults for
anyone that does
not fit your Political Profile. A smart politician could use you for his
cause you have
a profile a Mob needs.

Kurt Knoll.

"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
news:jeffreygbrown-0E3E75.21472016122001@news.alt.net...
> In article , "Philip
Mathews"
>  wrote:
>
> > You know Richard, at your age you have very little time left to
exhibit some
> > intellectual honesty. And spewing lies just because you want to have
> > something to say is not going to get you there.
>
> Phillips isn't interested in "intellectual honesty". It knows that it
can never
> possess that quality. It is interested only in spreading its lies, and
fostering
> hatred thereby. It has made the fundamental mistake of choosing a
venue in which
> its lies can be exposed for what they are almost immediately.
>
> JGB
>
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown
jeffreygbrown@mailandnews.com
> For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
> to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
> To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study",
1997




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:56 EST 2002
Article: 1288807 of alt.revisionism
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Thanks Fabian one person I know sure likes it is Jeffery Brown and
Kenneth McVay Daffer and Keren are right next do it. A couple of days
more an I will get some xmas
wishes from all of them hoping I will have a long and everlasting live.

Kurt Knoll.
==========
"Fabian"  wrote in message
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> I don't know Kurt, but whenever I read your posts in the morning I
can't
> help to get a big smile on my face, sunshine in my heart and feel good
for
> the rest of the day!
>
> fge
>
>






From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:57 EST 2002
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Jeffery Browns main Vocabulary includes the following words [deletia]
[snip] [Liar]
I hope he still has two fingers left on the one Hand in case he needs
it.

Kurt Knoll.
===============

"Richard Phillips"  wrote in message
news:3C1D87F5.79AD8969@earthlink.net...
>
>
> "Jeffrey G. Brown" wrote:
>
> > In article <3C1D68BC.523ABA8D@earthlink.net>, Richard G. 'Thank God
for those
> > murders' Phillips  wrote:
> >
> > > "Jeffrey G. Brown" wrote:
> >
> > > [...deletia...]
> >
> > > > Proof that Bacque is a liar can be found in "Eisenhower and the
German
> > > > POWs : Facts Against Falsehood", edited by Gunter Bischof and
Stephen Ambrose
> > > > (ISBN 0807117587;
).
> > > >
> > > > Forget it quickly, lying bigot. I can't wait to remind you of
your
> > > > deliberate ignorance again.
> > > >
> > > > JGB
> > >
> > > ===============================================
> > > Phillips
> > >
> > > I asked for facts, not the name of a book.
> >
> > You asked for the experts who established that Bacque is a liar.
> >
> > Your question was answered with the name of book in which the
experts did so.
> >
> > Now ignore the answer, as it was obvious from the outset that you
would.
> >
> > JGB
>
> ===========================================
> Phillips
>
> All I have from you is the name of a book and YOUR opinion that it not
only refutes
> Bacque but even more makes him out a deliberate liar.
>
> Whenever you undertake to make your case I promise to listen to it.
>
> ===============================================
>
> >
> >
> > ---------
> >
> > Richard "Thank God for those murders" Phillips expresses his
condolences to the
> > World Trade Center victims:
> >
> >    "As for your priceless World Trade Center... my only regret
> >     is that they didn't demolish the obscenities totally by
> >     crashing into them at a much lower point."
> >
> >             -- From: "Richard G. Phillips" 
> >             -- Subject: Re: Regarding Tuesday's terrorist attack
> >             -- Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 14:56:37 GMT
> >             -- Message-ID: <3BA0C85C.BC6E764C@earthlink.net>
> >
> >
=====================================================================
> > Jeffrey G. Brown
jeffreygbrown@mailandnews.com
> > For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it
means
> > to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so
simple.
> > To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study",
1997
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:58 EST 2002
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If you run out of some colors let me know I am colorblind..

Kurt Knoll.
=========
"Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
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> "Fabian"  wrote in message
> news:EWdT7.9382$j81.1735143610@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
>
> >Mr. Phillips:I asked Avalon direct and this was their reply:From:
"William
> Fray" 
>
> To: "Fabian" 
> Subject: Re: Nuremberg War Crimes Trials
> Date: Sunday, December 16, 2001 9:22 AMThe U.S. Government published
three
> sets in regards to the Nuremberg Trials. A 42 volume set of the
proceedings
> and German language documents of the Trial of the Major War Criminals
also
> known as the "Blue Set". The second set known as the "Red Set"
contains
> supporting documentation
> relevant to the "Blue Set". The last set known as the "Green Set"
contains
> the proceedings of the subsequent trials held under the authority of
Control
> Council law #10.The Avalon Project has up volume 1-22 of the "Blue
Set"
> which constitutes the proceedings of the Trial of the Major
WarCriminals. We
> are currently working on the "Red Set" and hope to publish the "Green
Set"
> in the near future.Sincerely
> William Frayb
> Director; The Avalon Project
>
> >One thing seems to be clear: The set on that site is not yet
complete. It
> maybe risky to quote stuff from there.
>
> The fact that the books are not complete does not mean it is risky to
cite
> what is there.
>
> Sounds like you're afraid to deal with the evidence that is there!
>
> --
> Philip Mathews
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:58 EST 2002
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I forgot what I send you since you cut it out. Can you please repost it
again my life depends on it.

Kurt Knoll.
==============
"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
news:jeffreygbrown-6E31E7.22511116122001@news.alt.net...
> In article <3c1d6877_2@binaries.vphos.net>, "Lying Shit Knoll"
>  wrote:
>
> > The more effort you but into it the less I and others will trust you
and
> > it is already happening from what I can see.
>
> Nobody cares who you trust, lying shit. You don't matter. You are
insignificant.
> Your only function here is to provide comic relief -- which is all the
more
> amusing because you truly do not have a clue regarding your own
stupidity and
> obvious lack of integrity.
>
> JGB
>
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown
jeffreygbrown@mailandnews.com
> For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
> to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
> To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study",
1997




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:58 EST 2002
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Who say I hate Jews you are wrong I just want them do disappear.

Kurt Knoll.
================
"Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
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> news:3c1d6877_2@binaries.vphos.net...
>
> > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
> > news:PNcT7.15913$Sj1.8990351@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > > "Richard Phillips"  wrote in message
> > > news:3C1D55FD.230FF219@earthlink.net...
> > >
> > >
> > > > Philip Mathews wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > > > news:3c1cfb1a_1@binaries.vphos.net...
> > > > >
> > > > > > After stripping the German prisoners of their
> > > > > > Prisoner-of-war status (to which they were certainly
entitled)
> > and
> > > > > > instead
> > > > > > designating them as Disarmed Enemy Forces, thus conveniently
> > removing
> > > > > > them
> > > > > > from the protection of the Geneva Convention.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> >
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/ftp.py?people//b/bacque.james/ambro
> > se.0
> > > > > 01
> > > > >
> > > > > According to Mr. Bacque, Eisenhower personally, secretly, and
with
> > > > >    sinister intent changed the status of surrendered German
> > soldiers
> > > > >    from prisoners of war to disarmed enemy forces. In fact,
the
> > change
> > > > >    in designation was a policy matter. The decision was made
not
> > by
> > > > >    Eisenhower but by his superiors, specifically by the
European
> > > > >    Advisory Commission. Nor was any attempt made to keep it
> > secret.
> > > > >    All those involved acted with the authority of the British,
> > Russian
> > > > >    and American Governments, and they were perfectly
> > straightforward
> > > > >    about the reason for the change in status.
> > >
> > > > There was never the slightest justification for such an order
nor
> > was
> > > there any
> > > > precedent for it in Internatainal Law.
> > >
> > > There was every justification for the order.  Existing
designations
> > required
> > > the German prisoners of war to be given a daily caloric intake
> > impossible to
> > > match with millions of other Europeans under US control during a
> > massive
> > > food shortage. Any decent human being would recognize the ultimate
> > fairness
> > > of distributing limited food on an equal basis to all those in
need.
> > >
> > >  >The captured German soldiers were
> > > > prisoners-of-war --period--  and, as such, were entitled to the
> > protection
> > > of
> > > > the Geneva Convention. If Eisenhower had had any character he
would
> > not
> > > only
> > > > have defied the order, he would have regarded it as an insult to
his
> > > military
> > > > honour. Patton would certainly have treated it that way.
> > >
> > > Defying the order would have meant providing millions of other
human
> > beings
> > > with less than  life sustaining quantities of food simply to meet
a
> > well
> > > intentioned, but improper standard in light of the food supply
> > situation.
> > >
> > >
> > > > >    What happened is simple enough: the Allies could not afford
to
> > feed
> > > > >    the millions of German prisoners at the same level at which
> > they
> > > > >    were able to feed German civilians, not to mention the
> > civilians of
> > > > >    the liberated countries of Western Europe, and not to
mention
> > as
> > > > >    well the displaced persons. But the United States and other
> > Allied
> > > > >    nations had signed the Geneva Convention, which had the
force
> > of a
> > > > >    treaty. They did not wish to violate it, so they used the
new
> > > > >    designation of "Disarmed Enemy Forces." The orders to the
field
> > > > >    commanders were straighforward: do not feed the DEF's at a
> > higher
> > > > >    scale than German civilians.
> > >
> > > > (1) The Displaced Persons were not  our responsibility.
> > >
> > > That is not your decision to make. Ike, the US Army, and the US
> > government
> > > are not ignorant, heartless fucks, like you are.
> > > They made the proper decision.
> > >
> > > > (2) Neither were the citizens of the liberated countries. Those
> > countries
> > > had
> > > > governments in place and it was their responsibility to feed
their
> > own
> > > people.
> > >
> > > They did not have governments in place. More pseudo-knowledge from
the
> > idiot
> > > Phillips.
> > >
> > > > (3) Our responsibility was strictly for the civilians under our
> > occupation
> > > and
> > > > the POWs (sorry, DEFs) in our custody.
> > >
> > > Our responsiblity was whatever we decided it was, not what you
wish.
> > Quite
> > > an American you are Phillips, wishing we had treated German
soldiers
> > to a
> > > higher standard than the millions of displaced human beings
destitute
> > > because of Nazi Germany's policies.
> > >
> > > > (4) Civilians are free to beg, borrow, or buy food from whomever
> > they can.
> > >
> > > No, they are not, not under a self governing proposition, and
> > certainly not
> > > under a military occupation.
> > >
> > > > (5) If what you say is true then what can justify the standing
> > orders to
> > > the GI
> > > > guards to shoot any German civilians attempting to bring food to
> > > prisoners.
> > >
> > > The control of food supplies under extreme conditions. If the
citizens
> > had
> > > excess food, it belonged to all those who needed it.
> > >
> > > > (6) America had enormous reserve stocks of food and superb rail
and
> > > shipping
> > > > facilities for moving them where they were needed.
> > >
> > > No it didn't. This is just your repeated lie from another post.
> > >
> > > You know Richard, at your age you have very little time left to
> > exhibit some
> > > intellectual honesty. And spewing lies just because you want to
have
> > > something to say is not going to get you there.
>
> > You are really screwed up Mathews
>
> What's the matter Knoll, those welts starting to smart?
>
> >Your is the American way first you
> > screw people the you
> > convince the it is their own fault.
>
> Oh, that sounds more like the line of argument of Jew haters like
yourself,
> now doesn't it Knoll.
>
> >I did hear this over and over again.
> > Your friend Jeffery Brown is a typical
> > example of how it works. There are Millions on both sides but it is
you
> > first and foremost
> > objective to use dirty politics to discredit all that oppose you.
>
> There aren't millions on both sides. There are millions, and then
there are
> you tiny few throw backs who will soon be gone.
>
> > The more effort you but into it the less I and others will trust you
and
> > it is already happening from
> > what I can see.
>
> Who cares if liars and haters like you trust anyone? It is enough that
> others see your lies exposed and catch a glimpse of the true face of
Nazism
> before it passes away.
>
> --
> Philip Mathews
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I really does not matter what someone writes if it is
> > not what you like you attach everyone
> > and that makes people susprice.
> >
> > Isn't it about time you try your sleaziness on someone else.
>
>
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:59 EST 2002
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>From what I can see and read Richard Philips is well educated .
Kurt Knoll.
=========

"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
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> In article <3c1d6a0d_2@binaries.vphos.net>, "Lying Shit Knoll"
>  wrote:
>
> > From what I can see and read Richard Philips is well educated
>
> > > [...deletia...]





From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:59 EST 2002
Article: 1288828 of alt.revisionism
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How com they mist you when the twin towers collapsed.

Kurt Knoll.
=============
"Joel Rosenberg"  wrote in message
news:m27krmwlmv.fsf@msp-65-25-234-54.mn.rr.com...
> Werner Knoll  writes:
>
> > Philip Mathews wrote:
> > >
> > > "Joel Rosenberg"  wrote in message
> > > news:m2u1uqhjjn.fsf@msp-65-25-234-54.mn.rr.com...
> > >
> >
> >
> > > > It's amazing how spoiled the Nazis were, that they could
complain
> > > > about something like that.
> > > >
> > > > But, in case anybody wonders if that's changed, we've still got
the
> > > > Knoll brothers to demonstrate that plus ca change, plus ca meme
chose,
> > > > eh?
> > >
> > > And what is most telling is the type of evidence they must resort
to to
> > > support their claims of improper treatment of German soldiers -
eyewitness
> > > testimony!!
> > >
> > > --
> > > Philip Mathews
> >
> > My Brother and relatives were in this camps.
>
> Yeah.  The Knoll brothers lost relatives in the death camps -- their
> favorite uncle fell out of a guard tower.
>
> --
> -------------------------------------
> There's a widow in sleepy Chester
>   Who weeps for her only son;
> There's a grave on the Pabeng River,
>   A grave that the Burmans shun,
> And there's Subadar Prag Tewarri
>   Who tells how the work was done.
> -------------------------------------




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:01:59 EST 2002
Article: 1288829 of alt.revisionism
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Gee it did not know they had Jews in the same camp with the German
soldiers.

Kurt Knoll.
==============
"Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
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> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> news:3c1d5bbc_1@binaries.vphos.net...
>
> > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
> > news:d9cT7.15775$Sj1.8956828@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > > "Joel Rosenberg"  wrote in message
> > > news:m2u1uqhjjn.fsf@msp-65-25-234-54.mn.rr.com...
> > >
> > > > "Philip Mathews"  writes:
> > > >
> > > > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > > > news:3c1cd516_2@binaries.vphos.net...
> > > > >
> > > > > > In the case of the German Prisoners food was available but
was
> > denied
> > > by
> > > > > > orders of Eisenhower.
> > > > >
> > > > > No that's not the case. German prisoners calories were reduced
to
> > equal
> > > that
> > > > > of German citizens and the millions of displaced persons the
> > allies were
> > > > > responsible before after the Nazi surrender in the war,
started by
> > them,
> > > > > which caused the whole problem to begin with.
> > >
> > > > It's amazing how spoiled the Nazis were, that they could
complain
> > > > about something like that.
> > > >
> > > > But, in case anybody wonders if that's changed, we've still got
the
> > > > Knoll brothers to demonstrate that plus ca change, plus ca meme
> > chose,
> > > > eh?
> > >
> > > And what is most telling is the type of evidence they must resort
to
> > to
> > > support their claims of improper treatment of German soldiers -
> > eyewitness
> > > testimony!!
>
> > Can you prove the amount of food given to the prisoner at the Rhine
Camp
> > was equal
> > the rations the German civilians received.
>
> Can you prove otherwise.
>
> And why is eyewitness testimony cited by you any different than the
much
> greater amount of eyewitness testimony to the facts of the Holocaust?
>
> > Do you have any witnesses to the effect I know the food rationing
was
> > intentionally reduced
> > by the Americans and food was stored en mass but held back.
>
> Historical evidence proves such. You who deny Holocaust witness
testimony
> have no right to insist on what you reject in other circumstances.
Sort of
> exposes your ignorant denial of the Holocaust, doesn't it Knoll!
>
> --
> Philip Mathews
>
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:00 EST 2002
Article: 1288830 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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You are nuts I was in the area your information is what you did hear
>from second and third hand
or did you have a Glass Eye.

Kurt Knoll.

"Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
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> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> news:3c1d5cb2_1@binaries.vphos.net...
>
> > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
> > news:RgcT7.15803$Sj1.8963018@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > > "Richard Phillips"  wrote in message
> > > news:3C1D3725.2FF1FCD@earthlink.net...
> > >
> > >
> > > > Philip Mathews wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > > > news:3c1cd516_2@binaries.vphos.net...
> > > > >
> > > > > > In the case of the German Prisoners food was available but
was
> > denied
> > > by
> > > > > > orders of Eisenhower.
> > > > >
> > > > > No that's not the case. German prisoners calories were reduced
to
> > equal
> > > that
> > > > > of German citizens and the millions of displaced persons the
> > allies were
> > > > > responsible before after the Nazi surrender in the war,
started by
> > them,
> > > > > which caused the whole problem to begin with.
> > >
> > >
> > > > (1) If that is all that was done, if that is al that was
intended,
> > then
> > > what
> > > > possible objection could Ike have had to prisoners' families
> > bringing them
> > > food.
> > >
> > > There was a food shortage. It was the goal of the United States to
> > ensure an
> > > equitable distribution of all food available. This required them
to
> > maintain
> > > control of all available food, and all possible means of
distribution.
> > >
> > > > (2) The situation of civilians and prisoners are fundamentally
> > different.
> > > > Civilians are free to trade what they can for food, free to go
out
> > to the
> > > farms
> > > > and either work or cut whatever deals they can. Prisoners, on
the
> > other
> > > hand,
> > > > are just that: prisoners. They get just what their captors
choose to
> > give
> > > them
> > > > and not a scrap more.
> > >
> > > No, the situations are identical, since the US sought to control
all
> > food
> > > supplies.Fairness dictated that any citizen possessing food in
excess
> > of
> > > their needs turn it over to those responsible for feeding millions
of
> > > people. There were millions of non German displaced persons in the
US
> > > controlled territory for whom the US assumed responsibility.
> > >
> > > > If Ike had had any sense of military honour he would never have
> > allowed
> > > > prisoners in his custody to starve.
> > >
> > > Rubbish. Military honor does not magically produce food. The
Nazis, on
> > the
> > > other hand, pursued a deliberate policy of starvation for much of
the
> > war.
> > > Strange that you are not outraged about that. But then, you're not
> > very
> > > bright, nor honest.
> > >
> > > > (3) America had enormous reserve stocks of food and enormous
> > capacity to
> > > > transport those stocks where they were needed - what came to be
> > called
> > > > logistics
> > >
> > > No they did not.
> > >
> > > Why do you think it's alright to tell such ignorant lies whenever
it
> > suits
> > > your purpose?
> > >
> > > Or do you really think that its just a matter of engaging the
mouth
> > and
> > > letting it say whatever comes into your mind?
>
> > Mathews if someone distorts facts it is you I have first hand
experience
> > with the American con Game
> > try this one on some of your Cowboys you will have more success.
>
> You have first hand experience with nothing but lying.
>
> You've been exposed as a lying Nazi apologist who knows nothing about
the
> historical event you deny, a mindless Jew hater, and an abject human
being.
>
> As for success, alt.revisionism is littered with the corpses of your
ilk.
>
> --
> Philip Mathews
>
>
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:01 EST 2002
Article: 1288869 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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They did a lot of things at Mauthausen Auschwitz did not have. Like a
rock quarry were the winners
had to jump to their death to commit suicide. Then they did have the
railroad Cars were the Jews got
gassed before they reached the Camp. At Mauthausen they also did have
wooden Barracks that
were sealed and Jews were gassed to death. An awfully lot of Jewish
prisoners never did reach Mauthausen
because they ware Gassed to death in a Gas van before they got there how
they did walk up to
the Crematorium I don't know. Also the few remaining Prisoners from
Mauthausen never made
it to Gissen because the were Gassed to death in a Gas wagon but I do
not know if there was
a crematorium in Gissen.

If Daniel Keren wants to use part of what I said here he is welcome he
does not infringe on Copy Right here.

And this is the rest of the Story till next time Folks.

Kurt Knoll.
==========
"Eugene Holman"  wrote in message
news:171220011511276368%holman@elo.helsinki.fi...
> In article , dkeren@world.std.com (Daniel
> Keren) wrote:
>
> > This thread is irrelevant to the gas chambers of Krema II
> > and III. The showerheads in these gas chambers were not
> > connected to anything, and served only to mislead the
> > victims.
>
> I agree that it is irrelevant to the gas chambers at Kremas II and
III,
> both of which have (false) shower heads in their inventory lists,  but
> it is not irrelevant to the problem of delivering and distributing the
> cyanide gas emitted by Zyklon-B. The gas chambers at Mauthausen and at
> euthanasia centers such as Hadamar are reported to have used the false
> showerhead mode of delivery, with CO being the lethal agent at the
> euthanasia centers and Zyklon-B generated cyanide gas being agent used
> at Mauthausen.
>
> > The Zyklon was lowered into a structure which consisted of
> > perforated metal supported by four iron poles. The HCN was
> > thus released into the chamber, killing the victims.
> >
> > This simple introduction device was described by witnesses,
> > and is also mentioned in the Krema's inventory documents,
> > which also list the showerheads in the gas chamber, the
> > gas-tight doors, and the "gassing cellar".
>
> The showerheads are evidently evolutionary vestiges, like male
nipples.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Eugene Holman




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:01 EST 2002
Article: 1288871 of alt.revisionism
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Are you sure of that my book says America declared war first on Germany.

Kurt Knoll.
=========
"E. Barry Bruyea"  wrote in message
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> On Sun, 16 Dec 2001 12:48:35 -0800, "Kurt Knoll"
>  wrote:
>
> >Well if they were no signatory to the Geneva Convention how could
they
> >then join the War.
> >
> >Kurt Knoll.
> >===========
>
> Another stupid question among many stuipid questions.  Germany
> declared war on the United States.  If ignorance truly is bliss, you
> must be really laid back.
>
>
>
> >"E. Barry Bruyea"  wrote in message
> >news:3c1d01f2.22030794@news.gate-way.net...
> >> On Sun, 16 Dec 2001 19:03:47 GMT, Richard Phillips
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Jeffrey G. Brown" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> In article <3c1cc811_1@binaries.vphos.net>, "Lying Shit Knoll"
> >> >>  wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > In the case of the German Prisoners food was available but was
> >denied by
> >> >> > orders of Eisenhower.
> >> >>
> >> >> And where is the evidence for this claim, lying shit?
> >> >>
> >> >> JGB
> >> >
> >> >================================================
> >> >Phillips
> >> >
> >> >We might begin with Eisenhower's stripping German prisoners of
their
> >> >Prisoner-of-war status (to which they were certainly entitled) and
> >instead
> >> >designating them as Disarmed Enemy Forces, thus conveniently
removing
> >them
> >> >from the protection of the Geneva Convention.
> >>
> >> Which, at the time, the U.S. was not a signatory.
> >> >
> >> >For this action I can think of no justification nor do I know of
any
> >provision
> >> >or precedent in International law. (Please correct me if I have
over
> >looked
> >> >something.)
> >> >
> >> >If it was the case that Eisenhower did this on orders from his
> >civilian
> >> >superiors, then I will reply that any commander possessed of both
> >balls and
> >> >some sense of military honour would have defied such an order.
> >> >
> >> >=============================================
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:01 EST 2002
Article: 1288894 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.politics,us.politics
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Subject: Re: Lying Shit Knoll still fact-free
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 09:04:15 -0800
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So what is the difference here Great Britain declared war against
Germany when Germany invaded
Poland.

Roosevelt has been waiting for this, even praying for it. In a
communiqué with Winston Churchill
before he said he will do anything even if it means to cheat and lie to
get into a conflict
with Germany. Hitler basically answered his prayers.

Kurt Knoll.
============
"Joel Rosenberg"  wrote in message
news:m2d71dsvqz.fsf@msp-65-25-234-54.mn.rr.com...
> "Kurt Knoll"  writes:
>
> > Are you sure of that my book says America declared war first on
Germany.
> >
> > Kurt Knoll.
> > =========
>
> Perhaps you should read one that you haven't colored in first.  It's
> simply a matter of fact that your Reich declared war on the US, after
> FDR had asked for a declaration of war against the Empire of Japan.
> --
> -------------------------------------
> There's a widow in sleepy Chester
>   Who weeps for her only son;
> There's a grave on the Pabeng River,
>   A grave that the Burmans shun,
> And there's Subadar Prag Tewarri
>   Who tells how the work was done.
> -------------------------------------




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:02 EST 2002
Article: 1288948 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.politics,us.politics
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Subject: Re: To Werner Knoll, re telus' AUP
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Do this rules and regulation only apply to non Jews or are Jews allowed
to spread hate with impunity.

Kurt Knoll.
==========
"Patrick Keenan"  wrote in message
news:r5qT7.6345$NC5.960683@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Sorry for top-posting...
>
> Werner, unless you have very strong documentation for your claims, you
might
> want to read the rest of Telus' Acceptable Use Policy, which is what I
> clipped this from:.
> http://www.telus.net/aup.html
> --------
> Civil Offences and Violations of the Rights of Others
> While using the Communication Services, you are prohibited from
posting,
> uploading, reproducing, distributing or otherwise transmitting
information
> or materials where such activity gives rise to civil liability or from
> otherwise violating the rights or assisting others to violate the
rights of
> TELUS or any third party, including, but not limited to, the
violations
> listed below:
> Copyright infringement
> Trademark infringement
> Defamation
> ----------
>
> Will we see your apology posted?
>
> -pk
>
>
> "Werner Knoll"  wrote in message
> news:3C1E2798.221C9536@telus.net...
> > >From kenmcvay@NAMBLA.net Thu Aug 10 11:35:37 2000
> > Date: 10 Aug 2000 17:35:37 -0000
> > From: kenmcvay@NAMBLA.net
> > Subject: Visit/Call Them!!!   NIZKOOK/NAMBLA COMBINED List
> > Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> >
> 
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:02 EST 2002
Article: 1288968 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.politics,us.politics
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You are contradicting your self what was the treaty agreement between
Germany and Japan ?.

Kurt Knoll.
============
"E. Barry Bruyea"  wrote in message
news:3c1e587d.31272263@news.gate-way.net...
> On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 09:04:15 -0800, "Kurt Knoll"
>  wrote:
>
> >So what is the difference here Great Britain declared war against
> >Germany when Germany invaded
> >Poland.
>
> I want to know why you lied?  Why you said 'your book' said the U.S.
> declared war on Germany?  And by the way, Great Britain had a Treaty
> obligation in regards Poland being invaded.  They simply honoured the
> Treaty.  Now, you being German, I understand that the word 'honour'
> can be a bit hard to understand, but, trust me, it did mean something
> to G.B.
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:03 EST 2002
Article: 1288991 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.politics,us.politics
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Subject: Re: To Werner Knoll, re telus' AUP
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Patrick are you part of this Clan if so what are you hoping in
accomplishing. Kenneth McVay has a cool
head I did mention it to him how your system works.
Kenneth on the other hand keeps his cool and at the right time will find
a way to screw someone.

What will your kind do if you have ousted anyone else of the info
highway and you do have
a monopoly of what is being said will your kind move in for the kill. Is
this the reason why
Kenneth McVay said a while back nobody ever won. What does happen when
you get someone
in to the Jail by playing your law game ?. one thing is for sure when
someone gets out of jail
you will still have the same questionable character you have today are
you proud of it.

PS I like most of the other citizen of  this Country would like to talk
and tell the truth
the way it is but you and company make this impossible. Your Scare
tactics seem to work
for the others I have only one thing to say don't be under any illusion
you maybe next.

Kurt Knoll.
================
"Patrick Keenan"  wrote in message
news:fOtT7.20514$NC5.1080759@news20.bellglobal.com...
>
> "Werner Knoll"  wrote in message
> news:3C1E3B93.11CE9AD4@telus.net...
> >
> >
> > Patrick Keenan wrote:
> > >
> > > Sorry for top-posting...
> > >
> > > Werner, unless you have very strong documentation for your claims,
you
> might
> > > want to read the rest of Telus' Acceptable Use Policy, which is
what I
> > > clipped this from:.
> > > http://www.telus.net/aup.html
> > > --------
> > > Civil Offences and Violations of the Rights of Others
> > > While using the Communication Services, you are prohibited from
posting,
> > > uploading, reproducing, distributing or otherwise transmitting
> information
> > > or materials where such activity gives rise to civil liability or
from
> > > otherwise violating the rights or assisting others to violate the
rights
> of
> > > TELUS or any third party, including, but not limited to, the
violations
> > > listed below:
> > > Copyright infringement
> > > Trademark infringement
> > > Defamation
> > > ----------
> > >
> > > Will we see your apology posted?
> > >
> > > -pk
> > >
> > > "Werner Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > news:3C1E2798.221C9536@telus.net...
> > > > >From kenmcvay@NAMBLA.net Thu Aug 10 11:35:37 2000
> > > > Date: 10 Aug 2000 17:35:37 -0000
> > > > From: kenmcvay@NAMBLA.net
> > > > Subject: Visit/Call Them!!!   NIZKOOK/NAMBLA COMBINED List
> > > > Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> > > >
> > > 
> >
> > Why single me out and will you charge Ken McVay for making my
posting
> > available in his web side? How about Zundel and Bacque?
> >
>
> You've made specific claims regarding specific individuals, some of
which
> are actionable.   You have made, it looks to me, claims of criminal
> activity.  If you don't have full documentation regarding these
claims, I
> suggest you retract them and apologise immediately.
>
>
> > I have a copy of this on a floppy disc!
>
> As they say.. "so what".
>
> >
> >
> > This posting was posted in a news group on Monday 8 January 2001 for
> > everyone to read. I been told that once it was posted it is in the
> > public domain!
>
>
> Means nothing.  You've reposted actionable material; the
responsibility for
> the posting is yours.
>
> >
> > I informed Telus that it is people who support and told them It is a
> > group of people working for the Jewish cause who are hell bent to
stifle
> > free speech And by giving in Telus will be a willing partner in
crime!
>
>
> Free speech does not include freedom to spread actionable lies about
people,
> or falsely allege criminal activity, as you have just done.
>
> Telus may well be a defendant if they do not distance themselves from
your
> post, probably by terminating your account.
>
> -pk
>
>
> >
> >
> > *************************************************************
> >
> > Subject: Re: 1st Warning Newsgroup SPAM - "telus.net account:
xxxxxxx
> > Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 13:17:16 -0800
> > From: Werner Knoll 
> > To: PLAnet BC Abuse 
> > References:
> >             1
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I check up in deja.com and the only thing I could come up with is a
Ken
> > McVay who is working on behalf of a major Jewish Organization here
in
> > Canada and a gentlemen in de.soc.politik.misc in Germany.
> >
> > Here you can see a International organization working hard to get
> > everybody of the air who is asking Questions.
> >
> > Vancouver Province Sunday, March 29, 1998
> > Cut Klatt's phone says B'nai Brith
> > Tired of waiting for the authority to pull the plug on an Internet
> > service used by racists and hate - mongers, B'nai Brith is taking
things
> > into its own hands.
> >
> > The human rights organization will meet tomorrow with BC Tel to try
to
> > persuade it to cut the phone line to the Fairview Technologies
Center in
> > Oliver.
> >
> > "We are going to ask them to cut Fairview off, which of course the
can
> > do," said David Matas of B'nai Brith.
> >
> > I took the liberty to print out your policy pamphlets and a hard
look at
> > your harassing policy.
> >
> > Perhaps you should go too can.general and look for a Ken MacVay to
find
> > out who is harassing whom?
> >
> > Werner Knoll
> >
> >
> > PLAnet BC Abuse wrote:
> > >
> > > TELUS.NET Internet Services Account: xxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > > Werner Knoll
> > >
> > > This is an automated response.
> > >
> > > We have received a complaint regarding your use of TELUS.NET
Internet
> > > Services.  The specific complaint alleges that our TELUS.NET
Internet
> > > Services account has been used to distribute unsolicited
communication
> or
> > > newsgroup spam, which is a violation of the TELUS.NET Internet
Services
> > > Acceptable Use Policy.  Abuse of your TELUS.NET Internet Services
may
> result
> > > in a disconnection of your TELUS.NET Internet Services account.
> > >
> > > If you are unaware of this type of activity coming from your
account,
> you
> > > may wish to inquire with others who may have access to your
account,
> verify
> > > that your computer is secure, and/or change the password to your
account
> to
> > > ensure that only authorized users have access to it.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > > Telus.net Internet Services
> > > abuse@telus.net
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Complaints:
> > >
> > > X-Trace: news.bc.tac.net 957029324 216.232.113.19 (Sat, 29 Apr
2000
> 10:28:44
> > > PDT)
> > > Subject: Re: Dachau Befreiung 29.4.45
> >
> > Stephan Roth?
> >
> >
> > > --
> > > X-Trace: news.bc.tac.net 955738381 216.232.113.19 (Fri, 14 Apr
2000
> 11:53:01
> > > PDT)
> > > Subject: Re: CBC: Information or Propaganda on Holocaust
> > > --
> >
> > Ken McVay?
> >
> > End
> >
> > Werner Knoll
> > Jewish Organizations have made the deeds of the Nazis into an
extortion
> > business!
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:03 EST 2002
Article: 1288997 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.politics,us.politics
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As a Fuckig German DP I have been exposed for more than 55 years of hate
propaganda.

Every time I was victimized after the Canadian have watched you hate
shows I felt like kissing every
bodies ass to survive the onslaught. What make matters even worse if
wanted to explain
something I took a chance of getting beaten up.

And then I remember you slogan every time you hate series starts were it
continuously
says never again never again. I got mad because this how I see it being
the cause
for the mistreatments I did receive. When your way of creating hate goes
that far
that one loose its business. The RCMP will not do anything because you
are told you are
German I wonder how you would feel about it.

Explaining something like this guys like Jeffery Brown and others will
only get you a laugh.
To me it is only an indication how ill educated and informed this
characters are.

Kurt Knoll.
============
"Patrick Keenan"  wrote in message
news:EQtT7.20535$NC5.1082498@news20.bellglobal.com...
> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> news:3c1e4d64_2@binaries.vphos.net...
> > Do this rules and regulation only apply to non Jews or are Jews
allowed
> > to spread hate with impunity.
> >
> > Kurt Knoll.
>
> The rules apply to everyone.   No-one has a right to spread lies and
false
> allegations of criminal activity, as your brother has just done.
>
> -pk
>
>
> > ==========
> > "Patrick Keenan"  wrote in message
> > news:r5qT7.6345$NC5.960683@news20.bellglobal.com...
> > > Sorry for top-posting...
> > >
> > > Werner, unless you have very strong documentation for your claims,
you
> > might
> > > want to read the rest of Telus' Acceptable Use Policy, which is
what I
> > > clipped this from:.
> > > http://www.telus.net/aup.html
> > > --------
> > > Civil Offences and Violations of the Rights of Others
> > > While using the Communication Services, you are prohibited from
> > posting,
> > > uploading, reproducing, distributing or otherwise transmitting
> > information
> > > or materials where such activity gives rise to civil liability or
from
> > > otherwise violating the rights or assisting others to violate the
> > rights of
> > > TELUS or any third party, including, but not limited to, the
> > violations
> > > listed below:
> > > Copyright infringement
> > > Trademark infringement
> > > Defamation
> > > ----------
> > >
> > > Will we see your apology posted?
> > >
> > > -pk
> > >
> > >
> > > "Werner Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > news:3C1E2798.221C9536@telus.net...
> > > > >From kenmcvay@NAMBLA.net Thu Aug 10 11:35:37 2000
> > > > Date: 10 Aug 2000 17:35:37 -0000
> > > > From: kenmcvay@NAMBLA.net
> > > > Subject: Visit/Call Them!!!   NIZKOOK/NAMBLA COMBINED List
> > > > Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> > > >
> > > 
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:03 EST 2002
Article: 1288998 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.politics,us.politics
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Joel check if you are circumcised ?. Let me know if you are.

Kurt Knoll.
============
"Joel Rosenberg"  wrote in message
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> Sara  writes:
>
> > In article <6ens1u47cvvfkk1ha4n1dq84hs56el81vg@4ax.com>,
> > John.Morris@UAlberta.CA wrote:
> >
> > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > > Hash: SHA1
> > >
> > > In <9vlilm$2g4m$1@news.tht.net> in alt.revisionism, on Mon, 17 Dec
> > > 2001 19:56:38 +0000 (UTC), kmcvay@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth
McVay,
> > > OBC) wrote:
> > >
> > > > In article ,
> > > > Patrick Keenan  wrote:
> > >
> > > > >Sorry for top-posting...
> > >
> > > > >Werner, unless you have very strong documentation for your
claims,
> > > > >you might want to read the rest of Telus' Acceptable Use
Policy,
> > > > >which is what I clipped this from:.
> > > > >http://www.telus.net/aup.html
> > >
> > > > Mr. Knoll has no documentation whatsoever. The article has been
> > > > forwarded to Telus due to its defamatory nature, and to the RCMP
> > > > with respect to section 299 of the Criminal Code of Canada.
> > >
> > > > http://insight.mcmaster.ca/org/efc/pages/law/cc/cc.299.html
> > >
> > > > I have been advised to publish the following statements:
> > >
> > > > 1. I am a heterosexual male.
> > > > 2. I have never been charged, arrested, or convicted with
> > > >    respect to _any_ criminal offense in _any_ jurisdiction.
> > > > 3. I have no association whatsoever with NAMBLA, nor have
> > > >    I ever had such an association.
> > >
> > > Hmm.  Sounds like good legal advice.  I would therefore like to
> > > publish the following statements:
> > >
> > >   1. I am a heterosexual male.
> > >   2. I have never been charged, arrested, or convicted with
> > >      respect to _any_ criminal offense in _any_ jurisdiction.
> > >   3. I have no association whatsoever with NAMBLA, nor have
> > >      I ever had such an association.
> > >
> >
> > Sure does. And since Mr. Knoll has continued to post this list,
which
> > also contains my name:
> >
>
> I'll play, too, particularly since it may well help Mr. Knoll, err,
> find the more structured environment more suitable to his needs.
>
>     1.  I am a heterosexual male.
>     2.  I have never been convicted with respect
>         to _any_ criminal offense in _any_ jurisdiction.
>
> (Not arrested?  Ever?  Am I the only person around here who has ever
> responded to a police order to disperse or be arrested by taking the
> bust?)
>
>     3.  I have no association whatsoever with NAMBLA, nor have
>         I ever had such an association.
>
> --
> -------------------------------------
> There's a widow in sleepy Chester
>   Who weeps for her only son;
> There's a grave on the Pabeng River,
>   A grave that the Burmans shun,
> And there's Subadar Prag Tewarri
>   Who tells how the work was done.
> -------------------------------------




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:03 EST 2002
Article: 1288999 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.politics,us.politics
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Great Britain did have an agreement with Poland what was it.

Kurt Knoll.
============
"Joel Rosenberg"  wrote in message
news:m2n10hmtzi.fsf@msp-65-25-234-54.mn.rr.com...
> "Kurt Knoll"  writes:
>
> > You are contradicting your self what was the treaty agreement
between
> > Germany and Japan ?.
> >
> > Kurt Knoll.
> > ============
>
> Sort of like that between Germany and the USSR?  There is no honor
> among thieves, eh?
>
> --
> -------------------------------------
> There's a widow in sleepy Chester
>   Who weeps for her only son;
> There's a grave on the Pabeng River,
>   A grave that the Burmans shun,
> And there's Subadar Prag Tewarri
>   Who tells how the work was done.
> -------------------------------------




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:05 EST 2002
Article: 1289043 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.politics,us.politics
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You wont get it unless you insult Kenneth McVay first but not right away
he usually waits till he
gets a collection of what you said before he screws you. But watch out
most of the Judges are under Jewish control
so you might get a gag order that's how the system works. get it ?.

Kurt Knoll
============
"Nicegoy"  wrote in message
news:8HvT7.7437$Xs4.1123679@feed.centurytel.net...
>
> "Kenneth McVay, OBC"  wrote in message
> news:9vlilm$2g4m$1@news.tht.net...
> > In article ,
> > Patrick Keenan  wrote:
> > >Sorry for top-posting...
> > >
> > >Werner, unless you have very strong documentation for your claims,
you
> might
> > >want to read the rest of Telus' Acceptable Use Policy, which is
what I
> > >clipped this from:.
> > >http://www.telus.net/aup.html
> >
> > Mr. Knoll has no documentation whatsoever. The article has been
> > forwarded to Telus due to its defamatory nature, and to the RCMP
with
> > respect to section 299 of the Criminal Code of Canada.
> >
> > http://insight.mcmaster.ca/org/efc/pages/law/cc/cc.299.html
> >
> > I have been advised to publish the following statements:
> >
> > 1. I am a heterosexual male.
> > 2. I have never been charged, arrested, or convicted with
> >    respect to _any_ criminal offense in _any_ jurisdiction.
> > 3. I have no association whatsoever with NAMBLA, nor have
> >    I ever had such an association.
> >
>
> Show us some proof.
>
>
>
> > --
> >  "Irving's conclusions were completely untenable. I thought his
> > scholarship was sloppy and unreliable and did not meet even the
> > most basic requirements of honest and competent historical
> > research."             (Richard Evans, Lying About Hitler, p.70)
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:05 EST 2002
Article: 1289044 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.politics,us.politics
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In German we have a name when someone is stupid we say die bloede Sara.
I hope they did not mean you.

Kurt Knoll.
========
"Nicegoy"  wrote in message
news:bJvT7.7440$Xs4.1123870@feed.centurytel.net...
>
> "Sara"  wrote in message
> news:catamont-D9F4D0.14375017122001@news.concentric.net...
> > In article <6ens1u47cvvfkk1ha4n1dq84hs56el81vg@4ax.com>,
> > John.Morris@UAlberta.CA wrote:
> >
> > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > > Hash: SHA1
> > >
> > > In <9vlilm$2g4m$1@news.tht.net> in alt.revisionism, on Mon, 17 Dec
> > > 2001 19:56:38 +0000 (UTC), kmcvay@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth
McVay,
> > > OBC) wrote:
> > >
> > > > In article ,
> > > > Patrick Keenan  wrote:
> > >
> > > > >Sorry for top-posting...
> > >
> > > > >Werner, unless you have very strong documentation for your
claims,
> > > > >you might want to read the rest of Telus' Acceptable Use
Policy,
> > > > >which is what I clipped this from:.
> > > > >http://www.telus.net/aup.html
> > >
> > > > Mr. Knoll has no documentation whatsoever. The article has been
> > > > forwarded to Telus due to its defamatory nature, and to the RCMP
> > > > with respect to section 299 of the Criminal Code of Canada.
> > >
> > > > http://insight.mcmaster.ca/org/efc/pages/law/cc/cc.299.html
> > >
> > > > I have been advised to publish the following statements:
> > >
> > > > 1. I am a heterosexual male.
> > > > 2. I have never been charged, arrested, or convicted with
> > > >    respect to _any_ criminal offense in _any_ jurisdiction.
> > > > 3. I have no association whatsoever with NAMBLA, nor have
> > > >    I ever had such an association.
> > >
> > > Hmm.  Sounds like good legal advice.  I would therefore like to
> > > publish the following statements:
> > >
> > >   1. I am a heterosexual male.
> > >   2. I have never been charged, arrested, or convicted with
> > >      respect to _any_ criminal offense in _any_ jurisdiction.
> > >   3. I have no association whatsoever with NAMBLA, nor have
> > >      I ever had such an association.
> > >
> >
> > Sure does. And since Mr. Knoll has continued to post this list,
which
> > also contains my name:
> >
> >    1. I am a heterosexual female.
> >    2. I have never been charged, arrested, or convicted with
> >       respect to _any_ criminal offense in _any_ jurisdiction.
> >    3. I have no association whatsoever with NAMBLA, nor have
> >       I ever had such an association.
>
>
> In good time Sara...in good time.
>
>
> > Sara
> >
> > --
> > "This is no social crisis, it's just you having fun."
> >  - Pete Townshend
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:05 EST 2002
Article: 1289045 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.politics,us.politics,alt.politics.bush,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.usa.republican,ca.politics
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Subject: Re: Towers Crash Down - Jew Cashes In
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It is so nice Mathews to cut of what I said enough people read it
already so why blow up the file
size of your reply.

Kurt Knoll.
=============
"Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
news:uXvT7.17204$Sj1.9742333@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> "Waldo"  wrote in message
> news:3c1e2137$0$189@news.impulse.net...
> >
> > "ciceroii"  wrote in message
> > news:3C1E061E.A4B08885@rogers.com...
> > >
> > >
> > > Kurt Knoll wrote: (snipped)
> > >
> > > The header of your post smacks of hateful anti-Semitism.
> >
> > What a thing to say! Every time someone mentions a Jew in a less
than
> > flattering light, idiots like you run around shrieking
"anti-Semitism"!!!
> >
> > The facts are that the Larry Silverstein (yes, he IS a Jew) and his
> partners
> > stand to reap nearly 4 BILLION in insurance claims OVER AND ABOVE
the 3.2
> > billion they paid for the long-term lease on the twin towers only
last
> July.
> >
> > Pay 3.2 billion - collect 7.1 billion.
> >
> > A tidy profit, wouldn't you say?
>
> Good God, do you ever bother to learn anything about an issue before
posting
> on it?
>
> I guess it's not necessary when your only purpose is to malign Jews,
like
> the good little Jew hater you are.
>
> Can you tell us what Mr. Silverstein's annual payment to the New York
port
> authority is for the lease?
>
> Can you tell us how long Mr. Silverstein is going to have to wait
before he
> has some leasible property to generate income to pay that cost?
>
> Can you tell us what it will cost to build comparable space in today's
> market?
>
> There is not an astute real estate executive anywhere who, faced with
the
> unprecedented circumstances of the WTC disaster, would not be doing
exactly
> what Mr. Silverstein is doing. Donald Trump certainly would be doing
it.
>
> No one knows what Mr. Silverstein's insurance payment will eventually
be. I
> suspect this will be settled on an amount somewhere between the one in
cident
> and two incident amounts, and in the end, no major windfall will be
had by
> anyone.
>
> --
> Philip Mathews
>
>
>
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:06 EST 2002
Article: 1289050 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.politics,us.politics
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Joel you don't have to worry about it. Being Jewish as you are they
probably leave you alone.
But it has been said before if it comes right down to the Jews will
screw each other.

Kurt Knoll.
==============
"Joel Rosenberg"  wrote in message
news:m2ofkxa070.fsf@msp-65-25-234-54.mn.rr.com...
> "Kurt Knoll"  writes:
>
> > Patrick are you part of this Clan if so what are you hoping in
> > accomplishing. Kenneth McVay has a cool
> > head I did mention it to him how your system works.
> > Kenneth on the other hand keeps his cool and at the right time will
find
> > a way to screw someone.
> >
> > What will your kind do if you have ousted anyone else of the info
> > highway and you do have
> > a monopoly of what is being said will your kind move in for the
kill. Is
> > this the reason why
> > Kenneth McVay said a while back nobody ever won. What does happen
when
> > you get someone
> > in to the Jail by playing your law game ?. one thing is for sure
when
> > someone gets out of jail
> > you will still have the same questionable character you have today
are
> > you proud of it.
> >
> > PS I like most of the other citizen of  this Country would like to
talk
> > and tell the truth
> > the way it is but you and company make this impossible. Your Scare
> > tactics seem to work
> > for the others I have only one thing to say don't be under any
illusion
> > you maybe next.
> >
> > Kurt Knoll.
>
> Next for what?  To be required to adhere to Terms of Service he's
> agreed to?  To be required to obey the laws of his country?
>
>
>
>
> > ================
> > "Patrick Keenan"  wrote in message
> > news:fOtT7.20514$NC5.1080759@news20.bellglobal.com...
> > >
> > > "Werner Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > news:3C1E3B93.11CE9AD4@telus.net...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Patrick Keenan wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry for top-posting...
> > > > >
> > > > > Werner, unless you have very strong documentation for your
claims,
> > you
> > > might
> > > > > want to read the rest of Telus' Acceptable Use Policy, which
is
> > what I
> > > > > clipped this from:.
> > > > > http://www.telus.net/aup.html
> > > > > --------
> > > > > Civil Offences and Violations of the Rights of Others
> > > > > While using the Communication Services, you are prohibited
from
> > posting,
> > > > > uploading, reproducing, distributing or otherwise transmitting
> > > information
> > > > > or materials where such activity gives rise to civil liability
or
> > from
> > > > > otherwise violating the rights or assisting others to violate
the
> > rights
> > > of
> > > > > TELUS or any third party, including, but not limited to, the
> > violations
> > > > > listed below:
> > > > > Copyright infringement
> > > > > Trademark infringement
> > > > > Defamation
> > > > > ----------
> > > > >
> > > > > Will we see your apology posted?
> > > > >
> > > > > -pk
> > > > >
> > > > > "Werner Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > > > news:3C1E2798.221C9536@telus.net...
> > > > > > >From kenmcvay@NAMBLA.net Thu Aug 10 11:35:37 2000
> > > > > > Date: 10 Aug 2000 17:35:37 -0000
> > > > > > From: kenmcvay@NAMBLA.net
> > > > > > Subject: Visit/Call Them!!!   NIZKOOK/NAMBLA COMBINED List
> > > > > > Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> > > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > >
> > > > Why single me out and will you charge Ken McVay for making my
> > posting
> > > > available in his web side? How about Zundel and Bacque?
> > > >
> > >
> > > You've made specific claims regarding specific individuals, some
of
> > which
> > > are actionable.   You have made, it looks to me, claims of
criminal
> > > activity.  If you don't have full documentation regarding these
> > claims, I
> > > suggest you retract them and apologise immediately.
> > >
> > >
> > > > I have a copy of this on a floppy disc!
> > >
> > > As they say.. "so what".
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This posting was posted in a news group on Monday 8 January 2001
for
> > > > everyone to read. I been told that once it was posted it is in
the
> > > > public domain!
> > >
> > >
> > > Means nothing.  You've reposted actionable material; the
> > responsibility for
> > > the posting is yours.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I informed Telus that it is people who support and told them It
is a
> > > > group of people working for the Jewish cause who are hell bent
to
> > stifle
> > > > free speech And by giving in Telus will be a willing partner in
> > crime!
> > >
> > >
> > > Free speech does not include freedom to spread actionable lies
about
> > people,
> > > or falsely allege criminal activity, as you have just done.
> > >
> > > Telus may well be a defendant if they do not distance themselves
from
> > your
> > > post, probably by terminating your account.
> > >
> > > -pk
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > *************************************************************
> > > >
> > > > Subject: Re: 1st Warning Newsgroup SPAM - "telus.net account:
> > xxxxxxx
> > > > Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 13:17:16 -0800
> > > > From: Werner Knoll 
> > > > To: PLAnet BC Abuse 
> > > > References:
> > > >             1
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I check up in deja.com and the only thing I could come up with
is a
> > Ken
> > > > McVay who is working on behalf of a major Jewish Organization
here
> > in
> > > > Canada and a gentlemen in de.soc.politik.misc in Germany.
> > > >
> > > > Here you can see a International organization working hard to
get
> > > > everybody of the air who is asking Questions.
> > > >
> > > > Vancouver Province Sunday, March 29, 1998
> > > > Cut Klatt's phone says B'nai Brith
> > > > Tired of waiting for the authority to pull the plug on an
Internet
> > > > service used by racists and hate - mongers, B'nai Brith is
taking
> > things
> > > > into its own hands.
> > > >
> > > > The human rights organization will meet tomorrow with BC Tel to
try
> > to
> > > > persuade it to cut the phone line to the Fairview Technologies
> > Center in
> > > > Oliver.
> > > >
> > > > "We are going to ask them to cut Fairview off, which of course
the
> > can
> > > > do," said David Matas of B'nai Brith.
> > > >
> > > > I took the liberty to print out your policy pamphlets and a hard
> > look at
> > > > your harassing policy.
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps you should go too can.general and look for a Ken MacVay
to
> > find
> > > > out who is harassing whom?
> > > >
> > > > Werner Knoll
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > PLAnet BC Abuse wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > TELUS.NET Internet Services Account: xxxxxxxxx
> > > > >
> > > > > Werner Knoll
> > > > >
> > > > > This is an automated response.
> > > > >
> > > > > We have received a complaint regarding your use of TELUS.NET
> > Internet
> > > > > Services.  The specific complaint alleges that our TELUS.NET
> > Internet
> > > > > Services account has been used to distribute unsolicited
> > communication
> > > or
> > > > > newsgroup spam, which is a violation of the TELUS.NET Internet
> > Services
> > > > > Acceptable Use Policy.  Abuse of your TELUS.NET Internet
Services
> > may
> > > result
> > > > > in a disconnection of your TELUS.NET Internet Services
account.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you are unaware of this type of activity coming from your
> > account,
> > > you
> > > > > may wish to inquire with others who may have access to your
> > account,
> > > verify
> > > > > that your computer is secure, and/or change the password to
your
> > account
> > > to
> > > > > ensure that only authorized users have access to it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > >
> > > > > Telus.net Internet Services
> > > > > abuse@telus.net
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Complaints:
> > > > >
> > > > > X-Trace: news.bc.tac.net 957029324 216.232.113.19 (Sat, 29 Apr
> > 2000
> > > 10:28:44
> > > > > PDT)
> > > > > Subject: Re: Dachau Befreiung 29.4.45
> > > >
> > > > Stephan Roth?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > X-Trace: news.bc.tac.net 955738381 216.232.113.19 (Fri, 14 Apr
> > 2000
> > > 11:53:01
> > > > > PDT)
> > > > > Subject: Re: CBC: Information or Propaganda on Holocaust
> > > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Ken McVay?
> > > >
> > > > End
> > > >
> > > > Werner Knoll
> > > > Jewish Organizations have made the deeds of the Nazis into an
> > extortion
> > > > business!
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> --
> -------------------------------------
> There's a widow in sleepy Chester
>   Who weeps for her only son;
> There's a grave on the Pabeng River,
>   A grave that the Burmans shun,
> And there's Subadar Prag Tewarri
>   Who tells how the work was done.
> -------------------------------------




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:06 EST 2002
Article: 1289054 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.politics,us.politics
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The sure did they should have fought the Mafia instead but you are more
powerful.

Kurt Knoll.
===========
"Joel Rosenberg"  wrote in message
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> Werner Knoll  writes:
>
> > Joel Rosenberg wrote:
> > >
> > > "Kurt Knoll"  writes:
> > >
> > > > Patrick are you part of this Clan if so what are you hoping in
> > > > accomplishing. Kenneth McVay has a cool
> > > > head I did mention it to him how your system works.
> > > > Kenneth on the other hand keeps his cool and at the right time
will find
> > > > a way to screw someone.
> > > >
> > > > What will your kind do if you have ousted anyone else of the
info
> > > > highway and you do have
> > > > a monopoly of what is being said will your kind move in for the
kill. Is
> > > > this the reason why
> > > > Kenneth McVay said a while back nobody ever won. What does
happen when
> > > > you get someone
> > > > in to the Jail by playing your law game ?. one thing is for sure
when
> > > > someone gets out of jail
> > > > you will still have the same questionable character you have
today are
> > > > you proud of it.
> > > >
> > > > PS I like most of the other citizen of  this Country would like
to talk
> > > > and tell the truth
> > > > the way it is but you and company make this impossible. Your
Scare
> > > > tactics seem to work
> > > > for the others I have only one thing to say don't be under any
illusion
> > > > you maybe next.
> > > >
> > > > Kurt Knoll.
> > >
> > > Next for what?  To be required to adhere to Terms of Service he's
> > > agreed to?  To be required to obey the laws of his country?
> > >
> >
> >
> > To Paraphrase Martin Niemüller:
> > First they came to the Zundels and I did not speak out because I was
not
> > a Zundel
> >
> > Than the came for the Irving's and I did not speak out because I was
not
> > an Irving
> >
> > Than they came for the Collins and I did not speak out because I was
not
> > a Collins.
> >
> > Than the came for me but there was no one left to speak out for me.
> >
> > Werner Knoll
>
> Since "came for", in this case, means "being required to adhere both
> to criminal law and terms of service agreed to," I don't see a
> problem.
>
>
> As to Zundel and Irving, each of them brought their own troubles on
> themselves -- had Zundel not applied for a change in his status, his
> lies wouldn't have been relevant; had Irving not tried to use the
> courts to muzzle criticism of his lies and deceptions, he wouldn't
> have ruined himself financially, or caused an academic like van Pelt
> to pay close, line-by-line attention to his supposed history.
>
> As to the two of you, well, it's clear that Canada's lax immigration
> laws have their drawbacks, eh?
>
>
>
> --
> -------------------------------------
> There's a widow in sleepy Chester
>   Who weeps for her only son;
> There's a grave on the Pabeng River,
>   A grave that the Burmans shun,
> And there's Subadar Prag Tewarri
>   Who tells how the work was done.
> -------------------------------------




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:06 EST 2002
Article: 1289059 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.politics,us.politics
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Not only that the Americans did sink one of their own ships and the
claimed a German Submarine for it.
Long before the declaration the American followed German Merchant Ships
all
along to Argentina Harassing them.

How does this crab you Noel.

Kurt Knoll.
==========
"Richard Phillips"  wrote in message
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>
>
> Kurt Knoll wrote:
>
> > So what is the difference here Great Britain declared war against
> > Germany when Germany invaded
> > Poland.
> >
> > Roosevelt has been waiting for this, even praying for it. In a
> > communiqué with Winston Churchill
> > before he said he will do anything even if it means to cheat and lie
to
> > get into a conflict
> > with Germany. Hitler basically answered his prayers.
> >
> > Kurt Knoll.
> > ============
> > "Joel Rosenberg"  wrote in message
> > news:m2d71dsvqz.fsf@msp-65-25-234-54.mn.rr.com...
> > > "Kurt Knoll"  writes:
> > >
> > > > Are you sure of that my book says America declared war first on
> > Germany.
> > > >
> > > > Kurt Knoll.
> > > > =========
> > >
> > > Perhaps you should read one that you haven't colored in first.
It's
> > > simply a matter of fact that your Reich declared war on the US,
after
> > > FDR had asked for a declaration of war against the Empire of
Japan.
>
> ============================================
> Phillips
>
> That is true in a narrow technical sense but it takes no account of
the
> fact that, for much of 1941 and to all intents and purposes, America
and
> Germany were already AT war. I cite FDR's shoot-to-kill order to the
Navy
> regarding German subs in our waters.
>
> =====================================
>
> >
> > > --
> > > -------------------------------------
> > > There's a widow in sleepy Chester
> > >   Who weeps for her only son;
> > > There's a grave on the Pabeng River,
> > >   A grave that the Burmans shun,
> > > And there's Subadar Prag Tewarri
> > >   Who tells how the work was done.
> > > -------------------------------------
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:07 EST 2002
Article: 1289061 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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As long as you and your kind scews people around you will have people
like me.

Kurt Knoll.
==
"Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
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> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> news:3c1d953a_1@binaries.vphos.net...
>
> > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
> > news:7ceT7.16299$Sj1.9067271@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > news:3c1d6877_2@binaries.vphos.net...
> > >
> > > > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
> > > > news:PNcT7.15913$Sj1.8990351@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > > > > "Richard Phillips"  wrote in message
> > > > > news:3C1D55FD.230FF219@earthlink.net...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Philip Mathews wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:3c1cfb1a_1@binaries.vphos.net...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > After stripping the German prisoners of their
> > > > > > > > Prisoner-of-war status (to which they were certainly
> > entitled)
> > > > and
> > > > > > > > instead
> > > > > > > > designating them as Disarmed Enemy Forces, thus
conveniently
> > > > removing
> > > > > > > > them
> > > > > > > > from the protection of the Geneva Convention.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/ftp.py?people//b/bacque.james/ambro
> > > > se.0
> > > > > > > 01
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > According to Mr. Bacque, Eisenhower personally, secretly,
and
> > with
> > > > > > >    sinister intent changed the status of surrendered
German
> > > > soldiers
> > > > > > >    from prisoners of war to disarmed enemy forces. In
fact,
> > the
> > > > change
> > > > > > >    in designation was a policy matter. The decision was
made
> > not
> > > > by
> > > > > > >    Eisenhower but by his superiors, specifically by the
> > European
> > > > > > >    Advisory Commission. Nor was any attempt made to keep
it
> > > > secret.
> > > > > > >    All those involved acted with the authority of the
British,
> > > > Russian
> > > > > > >    and American Governments, and they were perfectly
> > > > straightforward
> > > > > > >    about the reason for the change in status.
> > > > >
> > > > > > There was never the slightest justification for such an
order
> > nor
> > > > was
> > > > > there any
> > > > > > precedent for it in Internatainal Law.
> > > > >
> > > > > There was every justification for the order.  Existing
> > designations
> > > > required
> > > > > the German prisoners of war to be given a daily caloric intake
> > > > impossible to
> > > > > match with millions of other Europeans under US control during
a
> > > > massive
> > > > > food shortage. Any decent human being would recognize the
ultimate
> > > > fairness
> > > > > of distributing limited food on an equal basis to all those in
> > need.
> > > > >
> > > > >  >The captured German soldiers were
> > > > > > prisoners-of-war --period--  and, as such, were entitled to
the
> > > > protection
> > > > > of
> > > > > > the Geneva Convention. If Eisenhower had had any character
he
> > would
> > > > not
> > > > > only
> > > > > > have defied the order, he would have regarded it as an
insult to
> > his
> > > > > military
> > > > > > honour. Patton would certainly have treated it that way.
> > > > >
> > > > > Defying the order would have meant providing millions of other
> > human
> > > > beings
> > > > > with less than  life sustaining quantities of food simply to
meet
> > a
> > > > well
> > > > > intentioned, but improper standard in light of the food supply
> > > > situation.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > >    What happened is simple enough: the Allies could not
afford
> > to
> > > > feed
> > > > > > >    the millions of German prisoners at the same level at
which
> > > > they
> > > > > > >    were able to feed German civilians, not to mention the
> > > > civilians of
> > > > > > >    the liberated countries of Western Europe, and not to
> > mention
> > > > as
> > > > > > >    well the displaced persons. But the United States and
other
> > > > Allied
> > > > > > >    nations had signed the Geneva Convention, which had the
> > force
> > > > of a
> > > > > > >    treaty. They did not wish to violate it, so they used
the
> > new
> > > > > > >    designation of "Disarmed Enemy Forces." The orders to
the
> > field
> > > > > > >    commanders were straighforward: do not feed the DEF's
at a
> > > > higher
> > > > > > >    scale than German civilians.
> > > > >
> > > > > > (1) The Displaced Persons were not  our responsibility.
> > > > >
> > > > > That is not your decision to make. Ike, the US Army, and the
US
> > > > government
> > > > > are not ignorant, heartless fucks, like you are.
> > > > > They made the proper decision.
> > > > >
> > > > > > (2) Neither were the citizens of the liberated countries.
Those
> > > > countries
> > > > > had
> > > > > > governments in place and it was their responsibility to feed
> > their
> > > > own
> > > > > people.
> > > > >
> > > > > They did not have governments in place. More pseudo-knowledge
from
> > the
> > > > idiot
> > > > > Phillips.
> > > > >
> > > > > > (3) Our responsibility was strictly for the civilians under
our
> > > > occupation
> > > > > and
> > > > > > the POWs (sorry, DEFs) in our custody.
> > > > >
> > > > > Our responsiblity was whatever we decided it was, not what you
> > wish.
> > > > Quite
> > > > > an American you are Phillips, wishing we had treated German
> > soldiers
> > > > to a
> > > > > higher standard than the millions of displaced human beings
> > destitute
> > > > > because of Nazi Germany's policies.
> > > > >
> > > > > > (4) Civilians are free to beg, borrow, or buy food from
whomever
> > > > they can.
> > > > >
> > > > > No, they are not, not under a self governing proposition, and
> > > > certainly not
> > > > > under a military occupation.
> > > > >
> > > > > > (5) If what you say is true then what can justify the
standing
> > > > orders to
> > > > > the GI
> > > > > > guards to shoot any German civilians attempting to bring
food to
> > > > > prisoners.
> > > > >
> > > > > The control of food supplies under extreme conditions. If the
> > citizens
> > > > had
> > > > > excess food, it belonged to all those who needed it.
> > > > >
> > > > > > (6) America had enormous reserve stocks of food and superb
rail
> > and
> > > > > shipping
> > > > > > facilities for moving them where they were needed.
> > > > >
> > > > > No it didn't. This is just your repeated lie from another
post.
> > > > >
> > > > > You know Richard, at your age you have very little time left
to
> > > > exhibit some
> > > > > intellectual honesty. And spewing lies just because you want
to
> > have
> > > > > something to say is not going to get you there.
> > >
> > > > You are really screwed up Mathews
> > >
> > > What's the matter Knoll, those welts starting to smart?
> > >
> > > >Your is the American way first you
> > > > screw people the you
> > > > convince the it is their own fault.
> > >
> > > Oh, that sounds more like the line of argument of Jew haters like
> > yourself,
> > > now doesn't it Knoll.
> > >
> > > >I did hear this over and over again.
> > > > Your friend Jeffery Brown is a typical
> > > > example of how it works. There are Millions on both sides but it
is
> > you
> > > > first and foremost
> > > > objective to use dirty politics to discredit all that oppose
you.
> > >
> > > There aren't millions on both sides. There are millions, and then
> > there are
> > > you tiny few throw backs who will soon be gone.
> > >
> > > > The more effort you but into it the less I and others will trust
you
> > and
> > > > it is already happening from
> > > > what I can see.
> > >
> > > Who cares if liars and haters like you trust anyone? It is enough
that
> > > others see your lies exposed and catch a glimpse of the true face
of
> > Nazism
> > > before it passes away.
>
> > Who say I hate Jews you are wrong I just want them do disappear.
>
> I say you hate Jews, and you provide the proof every day.
>
> --
> Philip Mathews
>
>
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:07 EST 2002
Article: 1289064 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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The only witnesses you know are your own and no one is allowed to gross
examine them.
Sure you make archive data available but only the data you want the to
see.

Kurt Knoll.
============
"Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
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>
> > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
> > news:a2eT7.16231$Sj1.9058244@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > news:3c1d5bbc_1@binaries.vphos.net...
> > >
> > > > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
> > > > news:d9cT7.15775$Sj1.8956828@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > > > > "Joel Rosenberg"  wrote in message
> > > > > news:m2u1uqhjjn.fsf@msp-65-25-234-54.mn.rr.com...
> > > > >
> > > > > > "Philip Mathews"  writes:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:3c1cd516_2@binaries.vphos.net...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > In the case of the German Prisoners food was available
but
> > was
> > > > denied
> > > > > by
> > > > > > > > orders of Eisenhower.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > No that's not the case. German prisoners calories were
reduced
> > to
> > > > equal
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > of German citizens and the millions of displaced persons
the
> > > > allies were
> > > > > > > responsible before after the Nazi surrender in the war,
> > started by
> > > > them,
> > > > > > > which caused the whole problem to begin with.
> > > > >
> > > > > > It's amazing how spoiled the Nazis were, that they could
> > complain
> > > > > > about something like that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But, in case anybody wonders if that's changed, we've still
got
> > the
> > > > > > Knoll brothers to demonstrate that plus ca change, plus ca
meme
> > > > chose,
> > > > > > eh?
> > > > >
> > > > > And what is most telling is the type of evidence they must
resort
> > to
> > > > to
> > > > > support their claims of improper treatment of German
soldiers -
> > > > eyewitness
> > > > > testimony!!
> > >
> > > > Can you prove the amount of food given to the prisoner at the
Rhine
> > Camp
> > > > was equal
> > > > the rations the German civilians received.
> > >
> > > Can you prove otherwise.
> > >
> > > And why is eyewitness testimony cited by you any different than
the
> > much
> > > greater amount of eyewitness testimony to the facts of the
Holocaust?
> > >
> > > > Do you have any witnesses to the effect I know the food
rationing
> > was
> > > > intentionally reduced
> > > > by the Americans and food was stored en mass but held back.
> > >
> > > Historical evidence proves such. You who deny Holocaust witness
> > testimony
> > > have no right to insist on what you reject in other circumstances.
> > Sort of
> > > exposes your ignorant denial of the Holocaust, doesn't it Knoll!
>
> > Gee it did not know they had Jews in the same camp with the German
> > soldiers.
>
> No one said they did.
>
> The issue is relying on eyewitness testimony when it suits your
purpose, and
> rejecting it when it proves your Nazis were genocidal murderers.
>
> That there were seperate camps is irrelevant.
>
> --
> Philip Mathews
>
>
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:07 EST 2002
Article: 1289067 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Your Eye witness reports have not been verified by independent sources.
Neither can your witnesses be gross examined.

Kurt Knoll.
=============
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> > >
> > > > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
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> > > > > "Richard Phillips"  wrote in message
> > > > > news:3C1D3725.2FF1FCD@earthlink.net...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Philip Mathews wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:3c1cd516_2@binaries.vphos.net...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > In the case of the German Prisoners food was available
but
> > was
> > > > denied
> > > > > by
> > > > > > > > orders of Eisenhower.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > No that's not the case. German prisoners calories were
reduced
> > to
> > > > equal
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > of German citizens and the millions of displaced persons
the
> > > > allies were
> > > > > > > responsible before after the Nazi surrender in the war,
> > started by
> > > > them,
> > > > > > > which caused the whole problem to begin with.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > (1) If that is all that was done, if that is al that was
> > intended,
> > > > then
> > > > > what
> > > > > > possible objection could Ike have had to prisoners' families
> > > > bringing them
> > > > > food.
> > > > >
> > > > > There was a food shortage. It was the goal of the United
States to
> > > > ensure an
> > > > > equitable distribution of all food available. This required
them
> > to
> > > > maintain
> > > > > control of all available food, and all possible means of
> > distribution.
> > > > >
> > > > > > (2) The situation of civilians and prisoners are
fundamentally
> > > > different.
> > > > > > Civilians are free to trade what they can for food, free to
go
> > out
> > > > to the
> > > > > farms
> > > > > > and either work or cut whatever deals they can. Prisoners,
on
> > the
> > > > other
> > > > > hand,
> > > > > > are just that: prisoners. They get just what their captors
> > choose to
> > > > give
> > > > > them
> > > > > > and not a scrap more.
> > > > >
> > > > > No, the situations are identical, since the US sought to
control
> > all
> > > > food
> > > > > supplies.Fairness dictated that any citizen possessing food in
> > excess
> > > > of
> > > > > their needs turn it over to those responsible for feeding
millions
> > of
> > > > > people. There were millions of non German displaced persons in
the
> > US
> > > > > controlled territory for whom the US assumed responsibility.
> > > > >
> > > > > > If Ike had had any sense of military honour he would never
have
> > > > allowed
> > > > > > prisoners in his custody to starve.
> > > > >
> > > > > Rubbish. Military honor does not magically produce food. The
> > Nazis, on
> > > > the
> > > > > other hand, pursued a deliberate policy of starvation for much
of
> > the
> > > > war.
> > > > > Strange that you are not outraged about that. But then, you're
not
> > > > very
> > > > > bright, nor honest.
> > > > >
> > > > > > (3) America had enormous reserve stocks of food and enormous
> > > > capacity to
> > > > > > transport those stocks where they were needed - what came to
be
> > > > called
> > > > > > logistics
> > > > >
> > > > > No they did not.
> > > > >
> > > > > Why do you think it's alright to tell such ignorant lies
whenever
> > it
> > > > suits
> > > > > your purpose?
> > > > >
> > > > > Or do you really think that its just a matter of engaging the
> > mouth
> > > > and
> > > > > letting it say whatever comes into your mind?
> > >
> > > > Mathews if someone distorts facts it is you I have first hand
> > experience
> > > > with the American con Game
> > > > try this one on some of your Cowboys you will have more success.
> > >
> > > You have first hand experience with nothing but lying.
> > >
> > > You've been exposed as a lying Nazi apologist who knows nothing
about
> > the
> > > historical event you deny, a mindless Jew hater, and an abject
human
> > being.
> > >
> > > As for success, alt.revisionism is littered with the corpses of
your
> > ilk.
>
> > You are nuts I was in the area your information is what you did hear
> > from second and third hand
> > or did you have a Glass Eye.
>
> It doesn't matter if you were in the area, your word is worthless.
>
> The history is not written from third hand information, either for
German
> POWS or the Holocaust.
>
> If you deny the validity of eyewitness testimony for the Holocaust,
you have
> no right to advocate its use in discussing German POWs.
>
> --
> Philip Mathews
>
>
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:07 EST 2002
Article: 1289166 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Sounds okay to me same as great Britain declared war on Germany.

Kurt Knoll
==========
"Hartmann Schaffer"  wrote in message
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> In article <3c1e06d5_2@binaries.vphos.net>,
> "Kurt Knoll"  writes:
> > Are you sure of that my book says America declared war first on
Germany.
>
> read it again after you took some comprehension classes.  the US
> declared war on japan after pearl harbour, and germany, having some
> kind of treaty with japan, subsequently declared war on the US
>
> hs
>
> --
>
> how are we defending our freedom and democracy by dismantling them?




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:08 EST 2002
Article: 1289167 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Are you one of the many Jews who lend money to some German Farmers that
could not
read or write and the added a couple more zeros do it after the contract
was signed ?.

If you did then you know why the Germans hated Jews.

Kurt Knoll.
===============

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> > > > >
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> > > > > > > "Richard Phillips"  wrote in message
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Philip Mathews wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in
message
> > > > > > > > > news:3c1cfb1a_1@binaries.vphos.net...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > After stripping the German prisoners of their
> > > > > > > > > > Prisoner-of-war status (to which they were certainly
> > > > entitled)
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > instead
> > > > > > > > > > designating them as Disarmed Enemy Forces, thus
> > conveniently
> > > > > > removing
> > > > > > > > > > them
> > > > > > > > > > from the protection of the Geneva Convention.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/ftp.py?people//b/bacque.james/ambro
> > > > > > se.0
> > > > > > > > > 01
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > According to Mr. Bacque, Eisenhower personally,
secretly,
> > and
> > > > with
> > > > > > > > >    sinister intent changed the status of surrendered
> > German
> > > > > > soldiers
> > > > > > > > >    from prisoners of war to disarmed enemy forces. In
> > fact,
> > > > the
> > > > > > change
> > > > > > > > >    in designation was a policy matter. The decision
was
> > made
> > > > not
> > > > > > by
> > > > > > > > >    Eisenhower but by his superiors, specifically by
the
> > > > European
> > > > > > > > >    Advisory Commission. Nor was any attempt made to
keep
> > it
> > > > > > secret.
> > > > > > > > >    All those involved acted with the authority of the
> > British,
> > > > > > Russian
> > > > > > > > >    and American Governments, and they were perfectly
> > > > > > straightforward
> > > > > > > > >    about the reason for the change in status.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > There was never the slightest justification for such an
> > order
> > > > nor
> > > > > > was
> > > > > > > there any
> > > > > > > > precedent for it in Internatainal Law.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There was every justification for the order.  Existing
> > > > designations
> > > > > > required
> > > > > > > the German prisoners of war to be given a daily caloric
intake
> > > > > > impossible to
> > > > > > > match with millions of other Europeans under US control
during
> > a
> > > > > > massive
> > > > > > > food shortage. Any decent human being would recognize the
> > ultimate
> > > > > > fairness
> > > > > > > of distributing limited food on an equal basis to all
those in
> > > > need.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >  >The captured German soldiers were
> > > > > > > > prisoners-of-war --period--  and, as such, were entitled
to
> > the
> > > > > > protection
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > the Geneva Convention. If Eisenhower had had any
character
> > he
> > > > would
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > > only
> > > > > > > > have defied the order, he would have regarded it as an
> > insult to
> > > > his
> > > > > > > military
> > > > > > > > honour. Patton would certainly have treated it that way.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Defying the order would have meant providing millions of
other
> > > > human
> > > > > > beings
> > > > > > > with less than  life sustaining quantities of food simply
to
> > meet
> > > > a
> > > > > > well
> > > > > > > intentioned, but improper standard in light of the food
supply
> > > > > > situation.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >    What happened is simple enough: the Allies could
not
> > afford
> > > > to
> > > > > > feed
> > > > > > > > >    the millions of German prisoners at the same level
at
> > which
> > > > > > they
> > > > > > > > >    were able to feed German civilians, not to mention
the
> > > > > > civilians of
> > > > > > > > >    the liberated countries of Western Europe, and not
to
> > > > mention
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > >    well the displaced persons. But the United States
and
> > other
> > > > > > Allied
> > > > > > > > >    nations had signed the Geneva Convention, which had
the
> > > > force
> > > > > > of a
> > > > > > > > >    treaty. They did not wish to violate it, so they
used
> > the
> > > > new
> > > > > > > > >    designation of "Disarmed Enemy Forces." The orders
to
> > the
> > > > field
> > > > > > > > >    commanders were straighforward: do not feed the
DEF's
> > at a
> > > > > > higher
> > > > > > > > >    scale than German civilians.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > (1) The Displaced Persons were not  our responsibility.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That is not your decision to make. Ike, the US Army, and
the
> > US
> > > > > > government
> > > > > > > are not ignorant, heartless fucks, like you are.
> > > > > > > They made the proper decision.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > (2) Neither were the citizens of the liberated
countries.
> > Those
> > > > > > countries
> > > > > > > had
> > > > > > > > governments in place and it was their responsibility to
feed
> > > > their
> > > > > > own
> > > > > > > people.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > They did not have governments in place. More
pseudo-knowledge
> > from
> > > > the
> > > > > > idiot
> > > > > > > Phillips.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > (3) Our responsibility was strictly for the civilians
under
> > our
> > > > > > occupation
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > the POWs (sorry, DEFs) in our custody.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Our responsiblity was whatever we decided it was, not what
you
> > > > wish.
> > > > > > Quite
> > > > > > > an American you are Phillips, wishing we had treated
German
> > > > soldiers
> > > > > > to a
> > > > > > > higher standard than the millions of displaced human
beings
> > > > destitute
> > > > > > > because of Nazi Germany's policies.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > (4) Civilians are free to beg, borrow, or buy food from
> > whomever
> > > > > > they can.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > No, they are not, not under a self governing proposition,
and
> > > > > > certainly not
> > > > > > > under a military occupation.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > (5) If what you say is true then what can justify the
> > standing
> > > > > > orders to
> > > > > > > the GI
> > > > > > > > guards to shoot any German civilians attempting to bring
> > food to
> > > > > > > prisoners.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The control of food supplies under extreme conditions. If
the
> > > > citizens
> > > > > > had
> > > > > > > excess food, it belonged to all those who needed it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > (6) America had enormous reserve stocks of food and
superb
> > rail
> > > > and
> > > > > > > shipping
> > > > > > > > facilities for moving them where they were needed.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > No it didn't. This is just your repeated lie from another
> > post.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You know Richard, at your age you have very little time
left
> > to
> > > > > > exhibit some
> > > > > > > intellectual honesty. And spewing lies just because you
want
> > to
> > > > have
> > > > > > > something to say is not going to get you there.
> > > > >
> > > > > > You are really screwed up Mathews
> > > > >
> > > > > What's the matter Knoll, those welts starting to smart?
> > > > >
> > > > > >Your is the American way first you
> > > > > > screw people the you
> > > > > > convince the it is their own fault.
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh, that sounds more like the line of argument of Jew haters
like
> > > > yourself,
> > > > > now doesn't it Knoll.
> > > > >
> > > > > >I did hear this over and over again.
> > > > > > Your friend Jeffery Brown is a typical
> > > > > > example of how it works. There are Millions on both sides
but it
> > is
> > > > you
> > > > > > first and foremost
> > > > > > objective to use dirty politics to discredit all that oppose
> > you.
> > > > >
> > > > > There aren't millions on both sides. There are millions, and
then
> > > > there are
> > > > > you tiny few throw backs who will soon be gone.
> > > > >
> > > > > > The more effort you but into it the less I and others will
trust
> > you
> > > > and
> > > > > > it is already happening from
> > > > > > what I can see.
> > > > >
> > > > > Who cares if liars and haters like you trust anyone? It is
enough
> > that
> > > > > others see your lies exposed and catch a glimpse of the true
face
> > of
> > > > Nazism
> > > > > before it passes away.
> > >
> > > > Who say I hate Jews you are wrong I just want them do disappear.
> > >
> > > I say you hate Jews, and you provide the proof every day.
>
> > As long as you and your kind scews people around you will have
people
> > like me.
>
> It is your kind who does the screwing around, and we took care of that
about
> 55 years ago.
>
> --
> Philip Mathews
>
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:08 EST 2002
Article: 1289168 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.politics,us.politics
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And of course all you Historians are Jewish any other one you don't like
are lying ?.

Kurt Knoll.
============
"Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
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>
> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> news:3c1eac68_2@binaries.vphos.net...
>
> > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
> > news:l1vT7.17175$Sj1.9690198@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > news:3c1d9722_1@binaries.vphos.net...
> > >
> > > > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
> > > > news:m4eT7.16246$Sj1.9060242@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > > > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > > > news:3c1d5cb2_1@binaries.vphos.net...
> > > > >
> > > > > > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in
message
> > > > > > news:RgcT7.15803$Sj1.8963018@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > > > > > > "Richard Phillips"  wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:3C1D3725.2FF1FCD@earthlink.net...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Philip Mathews wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in
message
> > > > > > > > > news:3c1cd516_2@binaries.vphos.net...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > In the case of the German Prisoners food was
available
> > but
> > > > was
> > > > > > denied
> > > > > > > by
> > > > > > > > > > orders of Eisenhower.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > No that's not the case. German prisoners calories were
> > reduced
> > > > to
> > > > > > equal
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > of German citizens and the millions of displaced
persons
> > the
> > > > > > allies were
> > > > > > > > > responsible before after the Nazi surrender in the
war,
> > > > started by
> > > > > > them,
> > > > > > > > > which caused the whole problem to begin with.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > (1) If that is all that was done, if that is al that was
> > > > intended,
> > > > > > then
> > > > > > > what
> > > > > > > > possible objection could Ike have had to prisoners'
families
> > > > > > bringing them
> > > > > > > food.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There was a food shortage. It was the goal of the United
> > States to
> > > > > > ensure an
> > > > > > > equitable distribution of all food available. This
required
> > them
> > > > to
> > > > > > maintain
> > > > > > > control of all available food, and all possible means of
> > > > distribution.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > (2) The situation of civilians and prisoners are
> > fundamentally
> > > > > > different.
> > > > > > > > Civilians are free to trade what they can for food, free
to
> > go
> > > > out
> > > > > > to the
> > > > > > > farms
> > > > > > > > and either work or cut whatever deals they can.
Prisoners,
> > on
> > > > the
> > > > > > other
> > > > > > > hand,
> > > > > > > > are just that: prisoners. They get just what their
captors
> > > > choose to
> > > > > > give
> > > > > > > them
> > > > > > > > and not a scrap more.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > No, the situations are identical, since the US sought to
> > control
> > > > all
> > > > > > food
> > > > > > > supplies.Fairness dictated that any citizen possessing
food in
> > > > excess
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > their needs turn it over to those responsible for feeding
> > millions
> > > > of
> > > > > > > people. There were millions of non German displaced
persons in
> > the
> > > > US
> > > > > > > controlled territory for whom the US assumed
responsibility.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If Ike had had any sense of military honour he would
never
> > have
> > > > > > allowed
> > > > > > > > prisoners in his custody to starve.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Rubbish. Military honor does not magically produce food.
The
> > > > Nazis, on
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > other hand, pursued a deliberate policy of starvation for
much
> > of
> > > > the
> > > > > > war.
> > > > > > > Strange that you are not outraged about that. But then,
you're
> > not
> > > > > > very
> > > > > > > bright, nor honest.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > (3) America had enormous reserve stocks of food and
enormous
> > > > > > capacity to
> > > > > > > > transport those stocks where they were needed - what
came to
> > be
> > > > > > called
> > > > > > > > logistics
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > No they did not.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Why do you think it's alright to tell such ignorant lies
> > whenever
> > > > it
> > > > > > suits
> > > > > > > your purpose?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Or do you really think that its just a matter of engaging
the
> > > > mouth
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > letting it say whatever comes into your mind?
> > > > >
> > > > > > Mathews if someone distorts facts it is you I have first
hand
> > > > experience
> > > > > > with the American con Game
> > > > > > try this one on some of your Cowboys you will have more
success.
> > > > >
> > > > > You have first hand experience with nothing but lying.
> > > > >
> > > > > You've been exposed as a lying Nazi apologist who knows
nothing
> > about
> > > > the
> > > > > historical event you deny, a mindless Jew hater, and an abject
> > human
> > > > being.
> > > > >
> > > > > As for success, alt.revisionism is littered with the corpses
of
> > your
> > > > ilk.
> > >
> > > > You are nuts I was in the area your information is what you did
hear
> > > > from second and third hand
> > > > or did you have a Glass Eye.
> > >
> > > It doesn't matter if you were in the area, your word is worthless.
> > >
> > > The history is not written from third hand information, either for
> > German
> > > POWS or the Holocaust.
> > >
> > > If you deny the validity of eyewitness testimony for the
Holocaust,
> > you have
> > > no right to advocate its use in discussing German POWs.
>
> > Your Eye witness reports have not been verified by independent
sources.
>
> Historians are independent sources and the multitude of eyewitness
evidence
> is corroborated.
>
> > Neither can your witnesses be gross examined.
>
> That's just the stupid lie told by people who try to learn history
from
> Holocaust Denial websites.
>
> --
> Philip Mathews
>
>
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:08 EST 2002
Article: 1289169 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.politics,us.politics
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Why should he sympathize with you crooked Jews ?.Who make the holocaust
an industrial
under taking ?.

Kurt Knoll.
==========
"Joel Rosenberg"  wrote in message
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> Werner Knoll  writes:
>
> > Patrick Keenan wrote:
> > >
> > > "Werner Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > news:3C1E955F.452D6315@telus.net...
> > > >
> >
> >
> > > > > I will suggest that you have your attorney explain it to you.
> > > > >
> > > > > -pk
> > > > >
> > > > >  
> > > >
> > > > Charge me and stop fucking around!
> > >
> > > It's not up to me, Werner, but be patient; I'm sure that at least
one of the
> > > people you've defamed will oblige you.     And you're welcome for
the favour
> > > I was doing you; probably, all you had to do was retract and
apologize.
> > >
> > > Oh, and the stuff below really doesn't apply to your situation,
which you
> > > seem not to understand.    Libel and defamation laws go back a lot
further
> > > than the human rights laws Mr. Collins complained about.
> > >
> > > -pk
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> > Look... I am going to be 69 years old soon.
>
> One would hope not, but that is, alas, a possibility.  Can I persuade
> you to gargle with gasoline and have a cigarette?
>
>   In 1943 10 years old I
> > learned how to fight fires. In 44 we were bombed and burned out.
> > Evacuated to a Catholic village , beaten up because we were not
> > Catholics. Returning to Nürnberg we were exposed to starvation.
> > Contacted tuberculosis in 1945, almost being killed for taking from
the
> > American field kitchen leftovers.
> >
> > Coming to Canada in 1956 we were constantly pissed at and told we
are
> > Nazi criminals.
>
> Well, you're clearly Nazi sympathizers, and for social purposes,
> that's close enough.
>
> --
> -------------------------------------
> There's a widow in sleepy Chester
>   Who weeps for her only son;
> There's a grave on the Pabeng River,
>   A grave that the Burmans shun,
> And there's Subadar Prag Tewarri
>   Who tells how the work was done.
> -------------------------------------




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:08 EST 2002
Article: 1289170 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.politics,us.politics
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I am sure you honesty is questionable Jeffery giving the way you act
there is a lot of
other thing wrong with you do.

Kurt Knoll.
==========
"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
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> In article <3C1EB6BB.6E5E6F60@telus.net>, Werner Knoll

> wrote:
>
> > Look... I am going to be 69 years old soon. In 1943 10 years old I
> > learned how to fight fires. In 44 we were bombed and burned out.
> > Evacuated to a Catholic village , beaten up because we were not
> > Catholics. Returning to Nürnberg we were exposed to starvation.
> > Contacted tuberculosis in 1945, almost being killed for taking from
the
> > American field kitchen leftovers.
>
> Whoopdie doo.
>
> Absolutely none of those experiences -- if true, which is doubtful
given your
> poor record for honesty -- grants you the right to lie about other
people, moron.
>
> You just don't understand your repsonsibilities as a citizen of a
civilized
> nation do you, jackass?
>
> JGB
>
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown
jeffreygbrown@mailandnews.com
> For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
> to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
> To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study",
1997




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:09 EST 2002
Article: 1289171 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Keenan you behave like a typical University Brick are you not ashamed of
your self.
I can smell your university arrogance right through my keyboard. Did you
also get an University
grand at taxpayers expense and when you are finished graduating you
screw the
very people that paid your way.

But on the other hand if it should go too court everything will come out
in the open.
Your beloved Kenneth McVay life will become an open book.

I did Employ a lot of people over the Years and after some bad
experience with a university
student never eve did hire an other one again. I will do my best to make
employers aware
what kind of character your kind has.

how many people did you and your kind screw out of their livelihood in
the last 400 Years.
You guys have no character it is not possible to insult you. But if you
people dye the
worms will not give you the special privileges you demand from the
common people and eat you just the same.

As for your 5 years threat you could be right Jews and the law society
tat is infected by you can do
almost anything the want. People believe it and you are living Proof of
it.

Kurt Knoll.


Kurt Knoll.
=
"Patrick Keenan"  wrote in message
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> "Werner Knoll"  wrote in message
> news:3C1EB6BB.6E5E6F60@telus.net...
> >
> > Patrick Keenan wrote:
> > >
> > > "Werner Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > news:3C1E955F.452D6315@telus.net...
> > > >
> > > > > I will suggest that you have your attorney explain it to you.
> > > > >
> > > > > -pk
> > > > >
> > > > >  
> > > >
> > > > Charge me and stop fucking around!
> > >
> > > It's not up to me, Werner, but be patient; I'm sure that at least
one of
> the
> > > people you've defamed will oblige you.     And you're welcome for
the
> favour
> > > I was doing you; probably, all you had to do was retract and
apologize.
> > >
> > > Oh, and the stuff below really doesn't apply to your situation,
which
> you
> > > seem not to understand.    Libel and defamation laws go back a lot
> further
> > > than the human rights laws Mr. Collins complained about.
> > >
> > > -pk
> > >
> > Look... I am going to be 69 years old soon. In 1943 10 years old I
> > learned how to fight fires. In 44 we were bombed and burned out.
> > Evacuated to a Catholic village , beaten up because we were not
> > Catholics. Returning to Nürnberg we were exposed to starvation.
> > Contacted tuberculosis in 1945, almost being killed for taking from
the
> > American field kitchen leftovers.
> >
> > Coming to Canada in 1956 we were constantly pissed at and told we
are
> > Nazi criminals.
>
> Your history is irrelevant to breaking the laws of Canada, which you
> certainly seem to have done.
>
> > The only thing wrong with me is having no fear!
>
> To tell you the truth, that's not how I would describe what I'm
seeing.
> There's a difference between lack of fear and stupidity.
>
> Are you truly incapable of understanding what you did today?  Perhaps
you
> can use *that* as a defence, since you probably don't have the one
thing you
> actually could use, which is complete proof of all of your claims.
>
> You really don't understand that you are facing five years in a
federal
> penitentiary, plus monetary penalties, do you?
>
> See a lawyer.   You need one, fast.  And retract and apologise.
>
> > If somebody likes to lay charges, so be it. I can tell you it will
be
> > the biggest circus for people to see.
>
> I rather doubt that.   It looks like pretty straightforward libel and
> defamation to me, with suits from several people.   There's also this
little
> matter of  a violation of the Criminal Code of Canada that's worth up
to
> five years of your time.  See below.
>
> Your lawyer will likely tell you the same thing.   If they tell you
> something else, suspect their competence and get another opinion.
Unless
> you actually are holding the ace, which is defined below, you've
screwed
> yourself, and have no-one else to blame.
>
> > I promised Telus, if the like to fuck around with me, I will make
sure
> > it will get in as many news paper in BC with enough postings to show
> > what is going on.
>
> I doubt Telus will 'fuck around with you'.   I rather think they will
> quickly decline to have you as a customer, since you've violated their
terms
> of service, and probably won't wish to be held party to your
behaviour.
>
> I suppose some fringe rag will put up with you.  Any paper that
actually
> does its research will probably publish the story as your being a nazi
> sympathiser charged with libel; the newsworthiness being in the media
you
> used (i.e., libel on the Internet).     You are not Ernst Zundel, and
he is
> *much* smarter than you.
>
> I doubt any court will consider or allow your irrelevant complaints.
The
> only postings that are relevant are your libellous/defamatory one,
and the
> reply posts from those you've libelled/defamed.
>
> See a lawer.   You need one, right now.
>
> Perhaps you'll understand if I draw a stick man for you - though I
doubt it.
> You seem determined to 'martyr' yourself for your cause, but you won't
be
> martyred for your cause, you'll simply be a common criminal.   And a
rather
> stupid one, at that.   You don't seem to understand that you've
chosen...
> poorly.
>
> First, read the stuff below.   Slowly.
>
> Then see a lawyer.   You need one, yesterday.
> --------------
>
> http://insight.cas.mcmaster.ca/org/efc/pages/law/cc/cc.298.html
>
> DEFINITION / Mode of Expression.
> 298. [1] A defamatory libel is matter published, without lawful
> justification or excuse, that is likely to injure the reputation of
any
> person by exposing him to hatred, contempt or ridicule, or that is
designed
> to insult the person of or concerning whom it is published.
> [2] A defamatory libel may be expressed directly or by insinuation or
irony
> [a] in words legibly marked upon any substance; or
> [b] by any object signifying a defamatory libel otherwise than by
words.
> [R.S., c.C-34, s.262.]
>
> http://insight.mcmaster.ca/org/efc/pages/law/cc/cc.299.html
>
> PUBLISHING.
> 299. [1] A person publishes a libel when he
> [a] exhibits it in public;
> [b] causes it to be read or seen; or
> [c] shows or delivers it, or causes it to be shown or delivered, with
intent
> that it should be read or seen by the person whom it defames or by any
other
> person. [R.S., c.c-34, s.263.]
>
> http://insight.cas.mcmaster.ca/org/efc/pages/law/cc/cc.300.html
>
> PUNISHMENT OF LIBEL KNOWN TO BE FALSE.
> 300. Every one who publishes a defamatory libel that he knows is false
is
> guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term
not
> exceeding five years. [R.S., c.C-34, s.264.]
>
> http://insight.cas.mcmaster.ca/org/efc/pages/law/cc/cc.301.html
>
> PUNISHMENT FOR DEFAMATORY LIBEL.
> 301. Every one who publishes a defamatory libel is guilty of an
indictable
> offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years.
> [R.S., c.C-34, s.265.]
>
> Here is your ace, which I doubt you actually have.  Bluffing isn't
> recommended:
> http://insight.cas.mcmaster.ca/org/efc/pages/law/cc/cc.311.html
>
> WHEN TRUTH A DEFENCE.
> 311. No person shall be deemed to publish a defamatory libel where he
proves
> that the publication of the defamatory matter in the manner in which
it was
> published was for the public benefit at the time when it was published
and
> that the matter itself was true. [R.S., c.C-34, s.275.]
> -------------
>
> Now, here's the stick man.  Try to follow this; there are four steps.
>
> 1. You copied text that claims that names a number of people as being,
or
> supporting, homosexual pedophiles, and as being members of a group of
> homosexual pedophiles,  that at least one is a convicted criminal.
In
> short, you publicly accuse all of engaging in criminal acts, and offer
no
> proof.  Your intent is to damage the reputations of the people you
have
> named (section 298, above)
>
> 2. (optional) You do no research to determine whether the claims are
factual
> or not.   You don't actually contact any of these people you name.
(section
> 300, above)
>
> 3. You then published it, worldwide no less,  by posting to a
newsgroup,
> under your own name from a traceable account. (Section 299, above)
>
> 4. Unless you have complete documented proof that all of your claims
are
> true for every person you've named, you've just broken the law.
> Congratulations.  (section 311, above).
> -------------
> The issue pretty much ends here.   Unless you can *prove to a court*
that
> your claims are actually true, you're facing up to a 2-year jail term
on the
> criminal aspect,  up to 5 - that'll be in a federal penitentiary - if
it's
> found that you knew your claims were false at the time you posted
them.
>
> Then, there's the monetary penalties to each of the people you've made
> claims about.   And don't forget your legal costs - your lawyer sure
won't.
> And you need a lawyer, fast.   Even if you do retract and apologise,
which I
> suggest you do.
>
> I really don't think any of your references to anyone else's posts has
any
> meaning or value in this context; neither does your personal history.
> 'Relevance' seems to be a concept you have difficulty grasping.
>
> You *really* need to have a lawyer explain your situation to you, and
fast.
> And, retract and apologise - unless you actually do have the ace,
which is
> absolute proof that each and every person you've named has actually
done the
> things you've claimed.
>
> I think that you have until, what, 6PM Pacific time tomorow to avoid
having
> one civil suit filed.   As to criminal charges, that's up to the RCMP
now,
> as I understand it.
>
> See a lawyer.  You need one.    And retract and apologise.
>
> -pk
> >
> > Werner Knoll
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:09 EST 2002
Article: 1289172 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.politics
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It was already posted a long time before werner ever got the internet.

Kurt Knoll.
==========
"Hartmann Schaffer"  wrote in message
news:3c1ea5c7@news.sentex.net...
> In article <171220011943295425%holman@elo.helsinki.fi>,
> Eugene Holman  writes:
> > ...
> >> Kenneth McVay, SOBC the well-known fag in Canada,
> >> Fag McVay of Vancouver, also a convicted car thief and
> >> all round molester, convicted of child molesting and car theft
> >> in California and Oregon, and still unemployed  gas pump boy,
> >> mastermind of the Canadian branch of NAMBLA,
>
> does anybody know who or what NAMBLA is?  or is it just an invention
> of werner's diseased mind?
>
> hs
>
> --
>
> how are we defending our freedom and democracy by dismantling them?




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:09 EST 2002
Article: 1289198 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.politics,us.politics
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Maybe I am wrong about you being part of the Self Serving Law Society
but I was so upset
about it I did have to trough up. I did remember when I came across
Canada in 1957 I read
the Story about a Saskatchewan Farmer who did die in the 30s and his kin
folk
had to hire a Lawyer. When it was all over the total inheritance from
the Farm was $ 1.00
after the lawyers eat it all.

I was never involved with the law other than I did have a few break ins
in my Store
and I did have to court and testify.

I do find this self serving society outright Repulsive every time I see
one. The majority of
people I know feel about the same way but most of them are scared to
talk about openly
about it especially when some of this characters are near by.

Kurt Knoll.
==========
"Patrick Keenan"  wrote in message
news:QACT7.10547$x25.1492320@news20.bellglobal.com...
>
> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> news:3c1eeb53_2@binaries.vphos.net...
> > Keenan you behave like a typical University Brick are you not
ashamed of
> > your self.
>
> Perhaps I should be, for trying to help your brother understand his
> foolishness.
>
> > I can smell your university arrogance right through my keyboard. Did
you
> > also get an University
> > grand at taxpayers expense and when you are finished graduating you
> > screw the
> > very people that paid your way.
>
> In other words, you know absolutely nothing about me aside from my
name, and
> you suffer from olfactory hallucinations.
>
> > But on the other hand if it should go too court everything will come
out
> > in the open.
> > Your beloved Kenneth McVay life will become an open book.
>
> Not very likely; it's entirely irrelevant, and it's more than Mr.
McVay.
> Your brother named other people.   Does he have the proof for his
specific
> claims?
>
> You plainly don't understand what's happened, either, I see.   Perhaps
you,
> too, should see a lawyer and have it explained to you.
>
> > I did Employ a lot of people over the Years and after some bad
> > experience with a university
> > student never eve did hire an other one again. I will do my best to
make
> > employers aware
> > what kind of character your kind has.
>
> And what kind is my kind?   Oh, and is that some sort of threat you're
> trying to make?
>
> > how many people did you and your kind screw out of their livelihood
in
> > the last 400 Years.
>
> What is my kind?  Be specific, now.
>
> > You guys have no character it is not possible to insult you. But if
you
> > people dye the
> > worms will not give you the special privileges you demand from the
> > common people and eat you just the same.
>
> Yup, everyone dies eventually.   No argument there.   But where do you
get
> the hallucination that I'm demanding special privileges from or for
anyone?
> If you had a brain, you'd see that I'm trying to do your brother a
favour.
> He's not exempt from the laws.
>
> > As for your 5 years threat you could be right Jews and the law
society
> > tat is infected by you can do
> > almost anything the want. People believe it and you are living Proof
of
> > it.
>
> It's not my threat; I'm trying to explain to your brother the
consequences
> of his foolishness.   It's Canadian law, and has been for some time.
> Perhaps you should read it - that's why I included it.
>
> And if you can understand it, perhaps you can explain it to your
brother, so
> he can perhaps avoid the greater penalties for his foolishness.
>
>
> > Kurt Knoll.
> > =
> 
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:10 EST 2002
Article: 1289205 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.politics,us.politics
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I have been advised to publish the following statements:

But I do not know by whom ?.
>
I will follow your advice and example:
>
1. I am a heterosexual male.
2. I have never been charged, arrested, or convicted with
    respect to _any_ criminal offense in _any_ jurisdiction.
3. I have no association whatsoever with NAMBLA, nor have
4. I ever had such an association.

But I wend into a Whore House a couple of times in Hamburg Germany I am
still alive
and I do not have Aids.
>
>
> --
> Regards,
Kurt Knoll.
====
"Eugene Holman"  wrote in message
news:181220011125093446%holman@elo.helsinki.fi...
> In article <9vlilm$2g4m$1@news.tht.net>, kmcvay@veritas.nizkor.org
> (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
>
> > I have been advised to publish the following statements:
>
> I will follow your advice and example:
>
> 1. I am a heterosexual male.
> 2. I have never been charged, arrested, or convicted with
>    respect to _any_ criminal offense in _any_ jurisdiction.
> 3. I have no association whatsoever with NAMBLA, nor have
>    I ever had such an association.
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Eugene Holman




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:10 EST 2002
Article: 1289232 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.politics,us.politics
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My common sense tells me you are not what you want me to see looks like
history repeats itself again.

You are as arrogant in your answers as the people I was talking about.

Kurt Knoll.
===========
"Patrick Keenan"  wrote in message
news:SnET7.20871$NC5.1421974@news20.bellglobal.com...
> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> news:3c1f0f97_1@binaries.vphos.net...
> > Maybe I am wrong about you being part of the Self Serving Law
Society
>
> You are, and about a fair number of other things as well.
>
> > but I was so upset
> > about it I did have to trough up.
>
> Not really an excuse..
>
> > I did remember when I came across
> > Canada in 1957 I read
> > the Story about a Saskatchewan Farmer who did die in the 30s and his
kin
> > folk
> > had to hire a Lawyer. When it was all over the total inheritance
from
> > the Farm was $ 1.00
> > after the lawyers eat it all.
>
> Can happen if you don't pay attention.
>
> > I was never involved with the law other than I did have a few break
ins
> > in my Store
> > and I did have to court and testify.
>
> Well, guess what?  That may very well be about to change, and in a big
way.
> And for no good reason.
>
> > I do find this self serving society outright Repulsive every time I
see
> > one. The majority of
> > people I know feel about the same way but most of them are scared to
> > talk about openly
> > about it especially when some of this characters are near by.
>
> Or perhaps you are mistaking common sense for fear.   It's pretty
foolish to
> publish libels in the manner your brother has.
>
> -pk
>
> >
> > Kurt Knoll.
> > ==========
> > "Patrick Keenan"  wrote in message
> > news:QACT7.10547$x25.1492320@news20.bellglobal.com...
> > >
> > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > news:3c1eeb53_2@binaries.vphos.net...
> > > > Keenan you behave like a typical University Brick are you not
> > ashamed of
> > > > your self.
> > >
> > > Perhaps I should be, for trying to help your brother understand
his
> > > foolishness.
> > >
> > > > I can smell your university arrogance right through my keyboard.
Did
> > you
> > > > also get an University
> > > > grand at taxpayers expense and when you are finished graduating
you
> > > > screw the
> > > > very people that paid your way.
> > >
> > > In other words, you know absolutely nothing about me aside from my
> > name, and
> > > you suffer from olfactory hallucinations.
> > >
> > > > But on the other hand if it should go too court everything will
come
> > out
> > > > in the open.
> > > > Your beloved Kenneth McVay life will become an open book.
> > >
> > > Not very likely; it's entirely irrelevant, and it's more than Mr.
> > McVay.
> > > Your brother named other people.   Does he have the proof for his
> > specific
> > > claims?
> > >
> > > You plainly don't understand what's happened, either, I see.
Perhaps
> > you,
> > > too, should see a lawyer and have it explained to you.
> > >
> > > > I did Employ a lot of people over the Years and after some bad
> > > > experience with a university
> > > > student never eve did hire an other one again. I will do my best
to
> > make
> > > > employers aware
> > > > what kind of character your kind has.
> > >
> > > And what kind is my kind?   Oh, and is that some sort of threat
you're
> > > trying to make?
> > >
> > > > how many people did you and your kind screw out of their
livelihood
> > in
> > > > the last 400 Years.
> > >
> > > What is my kind?  Be specific, now.
> > >
> > > > You guys have no character it is not possible to insult you. But
if
> > you
> > > > people dye the
> > > > worms will not give you the special privileges you demand from
the
> > > > common people and eat you just the same.
> > >
> > > Yup, everyone dies eventually.   No argument there.   But where do
you
> > get
> > > the hallucination that I'm demanding special privileges from or
for
> > anyone?
> > > If you had a brain, you'd see that I'm trying to do your brother a
> > favour.
> > > He's not exempt from the laws.
> > >
> > > > As for your 5 years threat you could be right Jews and the law
> > society
> > > > tat is infected by you can do
> > > > almost anything the want. People believe it and you are living
Proof
> > of
> > > > it.
> > >
> > > It's not my threat; I'm trying to explain to your brother the
> > consequences
> > > of his foolishness.   It's Canadian law, and has been for some
time.
> > > Perhaps you should read it - that's why I included it.
> > >
> > > And if you can understand it, perhaps you can explain it to your
> > brother, so
> > > he can perhaps avoid the greater penalties for his foolishness.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Kurt Knoll.
> > > > =
> > > 
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:10 EST 2002
Article: 1289255 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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You are right but not only that the Germans after the World War I  did
have to sign a Blank Check.

Reminds me almost of the story from an old German Farmer. Jews as money
lenders took advantage
of some illiterate German Farmers so when they did sing a promissory
note ?. Accidentally they
found out afterward a few more zeros were added. This wasn't exactly the
right way to build
trust for the Jews. Hate against the Jews did not come out of nowhere
there hat to be a reason
things like this were reasons ?.

Kurt Knoll.
==========

"Bond"  wrote in message
news:3c1f8762.167275399@shawnews...
> On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 17:27:21 GMT, snow@inwinter.ca (E. Barry Bruyea)
> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 08:54:38 -0800, "Kurt Knoll"
> > wrote:
> >
> >>Karl you should consult the Europeans re the Jews you can learn a
lot
> >>from them.
> >
> >Now why would anyone want to learn how to hate?  That's a German Art
> >Form.
>
> Agreed.  But why would masses of Germans give their lives to follow
> the likes of Adolf Hitler?
>
> Well the Rothschilds, a Jewish Family, were the major banking empire
> in europe at the end of WWI.  They were charged with supervising the
> reparation payments Germans had to make to it's neighbors as part of
> their defeat.  Germans had to pay back $12 billion and give away 85%
> of their countries natural resources to their neighbors.  Who enforced
> this?  Well the Jews did vis-a-vis the Rothchilds.
>
> In effect it were the Jews that drove Germany into complete and utter
> poverty thus creating the conditions for the rise of Hitler at WWII.
> Ever heard the saying "what goes around comes around"?  The slaughter
> of hundreds of thousands of Jews was carried out willingly by the
> population because the pre-Nazi Germans saw that Jews were responsible
> for their poverty.  They were correct.
>
> Again, the founders of this sort of eugenicism and master race
> building were the Jews themselves.  One only has to look to their
> religious texts to see the contempt they have for anyone not of 'so
> called' Jewish origion.
>
> Like the Arabs being taught to hate Americans and Jews in schools, the
> Jews are taught to hate anyone not Jewish through their religious
> institutions and the Americans are taught that they are a master race
> through their bogus history courses.
>
> Yet, we support these creeps and cheer when they kill millions of
> Arabs.  Even to the point of our governments putting out anti-Arab
> propoganda and censoring information that could be seen as
> anti-Jewish.
>
> One of their keenest supporters is the entire Bush family, going back
> to Prescott Bush and his trading relations with Hitler and the
> stacking of the US congress with german eugenics enthusiasts.  No
> wonder every Bush that's been elected has, within a year of getting
> elected, manufactured a crisis in the middle east.  It's not rocket
> science, the guy is just a sicko like Hitler.




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:10 EST 2002
Article: 1289298 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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You are repulsive your whole behavior is. Where did you learn this who
coached you.

Kurt Knoll.
========
"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
news:jeffreygbrown-DC1866.20340318122001@news.alt.net...
> In article <3c1f0f97_1@binaries.vphos.net>, "Lying Shit Knoll"
>  wrote:
>
> > I do find this self serving society outright Repulsive every time I
see
> > one.
>
> What's repulsive, Kurtsie, is that you and your brother feel that you
can lie
> about history and then libel those who point out your lies.
>
> JGB
>
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown
jeffreygbrown@mailandnews.com
> For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
> to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
> To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study",
1997




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:11 EST 2002
Article: 1289299 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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McVay has no character he behaves like slime always in the Background
using legal means
by him does not make him a better person he is tainted.

Kurt Knoll.

"P_R_I_V_A_T_E--C_I_T_Z_E_N"
 wrote in message
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> On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 01:16:05 +0000 (UTC), <9vm5ck$2ik2$1@news.tht.net>
> kmcvay@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
>
> >In article ,
> >Patrick Keenan  wrote:
> >
> >[Knoll flushed]
> >
> >>Well, no point in discussing further with you, since you don't seem
to
> >>understand  your responsibilites or the position you've put yourself
in.
> >>
> >>I will suggest that you have your attorney explain it to you.
> :
> >That is very good advice.
> >
> >The material Mr. Knoll republished is poisonous and deleterious,
> >as it makes statements about me which are completely false,
> >libelous and defamatory within the meaning of section 299 of
> >the Criminal Code of Canada.
>
> Would section 299 of the Criminal Code of Canada apply against you as
well?
> You are republishing material about me which is "poisonous and
deleterious,
> as it makes statements about me which are completely false.." when you
keep the
> false accusations Yale F. Edeiken made against me on your web site. I
won the
> lawsuit and had the judgment DISMISSED and Yale lost his appeal YET
you keep his
> false accusations featured at your web site. I have pointed out the
numerous
> falsehoods Yale made yet you persist. There are plenty of GOOGLE
archives
> demonstrating that I have complained about the Nizkor web site
propagating lies
> about me and even giving out my address and telephone number!!
>
> >By republishing the false information, Mr. Knoll is perpetuating
> >the defamation, and enhancing its availability, since anyone who
> >does a search of my name on any of the major search engines
> >may come up with this misinformation,
>
> You are doing the same to me you hypocrite and until you remove the
lies about
> me 9and your lies about other private citizens) you have no argument
against
> anyone.
>
> >which is certainly damaging to me in my capacity as a civil
libertarian and
> >human rights advocate.
>
> You told two lies above! You are neither and for a fact you are the
willing dupe
> of two organizations which are enemies of free speech.
>
> >Mr. Knoll would indeed be well advised to discuss this matter with
his
> >attorney, and do so quickly, as he has laid himself open to both
civil
> >and criminal liability by republishing false allegations.
>
> The same would apply to you then seeing how you are doing to others
what you are
> accusing Mr. Knoll of.
>
> >Mr. Knoll can avoid civil consequences by publishing a complete and
> >unqualified retraction in alt.revisionism , can.general, and
> >us.politics within 24 hours.
>
> That was the same threat Yale made against me and I never apologized
to the
> shyster either!
>
> >If he fails to do this, he _will_ be subject to civil action.
> >
> >As the criminal investigation is in the hands of the RCMP, it's out
> >of my hands.
>
> I will report your smears to RCMP and send them the documents which
prove I had
> a judgement overturned and the case dismissed at all levels within the
State of
> Pennsylvania with and inquiry as to why you keep propagating Yale's
numerous
> lies against me.
>
> >I encourage the other victims of Mr. Knoll's defamatory libel to
> >contact their solicitors with respect to a civil libel suit, and to
> >contact the RCMP or their local police authority with respect to
> >criminal charges as appropriate.
>
> I haven't seen him libel you. Stick it where the sun doesn't shine!
>
> Doc Tavish
>
> ---
> "We are not allowed to drink any wine or grape juice, or any drink
containing
> wine or grape juice, which has been touched by a non-Jew after the
seal of the
> bottle has been opened." 
> Information taken from: Is it Kosher, Rabbi E. Eidlitz and Spice and
Spirit,
> The Lubavitch Women's Cookbook Publications (July 12, 2001)
> Schulchan Aruch, Johre Deah, 122: "A Jew is forbidden to drink from a
> glass of wine which a Gentile has touched, because the touch has made
the
> wine unclean." Jewish Talmud
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:11 EST 2002
Article: 1289301 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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McVay maybe the Judge was a Jewish brother of you.

Kurt Knoll.
===========
"Kenneth McVay, OBC"  wrote in message
news:9vop5b$5b$1@news.tht.net...
> In article <87nv1usr2d46m78kdk8io76lajaefemo1o@4ax.com>,
> P_R_I_V_A_T_E--C_I_T_Z_E_N
 wrote:
> >On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 01:16:05 +0000 (UTC),
<9vm5ck$2ik2$1@news.tht.net>
> >kmcvay@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
> >
> >>In article ,
> >>Patrick Keenan  wrote:
> >>
> >>[Knoll flushed]
> >>
> >>>Well, no point in discussing further with you, since you don't seem
to
> >>>understand  your responsibilites or the position you've put
yourself in.
> >>>
> >>>I will suggest that you have your attorney explain it to you.
> >:
> >>That is very good advice.
> >>
> >>The material Mr. Knoll republished is poisonous and deleterious,
> >>as it makes statements about me which are completely false,
> >>libelous and defamatory within the meaning of section 299 of
> >>the Criminal Code of Canada.
> >
> >Would section 299 of the Criminal Code of Canada apply against you as
well?
>
> No. The documents on Nizkor relating to the court action are public
> documents which anyone can obtain from the Clerk of the Court. In
> short, they are an official part of the legal record, just like the
> Judgment.
>
> >You are republishing material about me which is "poisonous and
deleterious,
> >as it makes statements about me which are completely false.." when
you keep the
> >false accusations Yale F. Edeiken made against me on your web site. I
won the
> >lawsuit and had the judgment DISMISSED and Yale lost his appeal YET
you keep his
>
> The lawsuit's outcome was _not_ based on the allegations made by Mr.
> Edeiken, but solely on the issue of jurisdiction. The Judge did _not_
> conclude that the allegations were false, and, in fact, accepted them
> as fact.
>
> You can blubber about this until hell freezes over, and misrepresent
> the Judgments, but you cannot change the facts.
>
> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/b/bradbury.scott
>
> 
>
> --
> "In the final analysis, one does not refute a closed system, a total
> lie that is not refutable to the extent that its conclusions has
> preceded any evidence." (Vidal-Naquet, Pierre. Assassins of Memory,
> New York: Columbia University Press. p.81)




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:11 EST 2002
Article: 1289306 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.politics,us.politics
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I did not learn this in the Hitler youth because I was never a member
but did hear this from Farmers
I did live with in 1942 till 1945.

Kurt knoll.
===========
"Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
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> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> news:3c1ee4d3_2@binaries.vphos.net...
>
> > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
> > news:tzyT7.17305$Sj1.9879896@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > news:3c1eab28_2@binaries.vphos.net...
> > >
> > > > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
> > > > news:vYuT7.17172$Sj1.9686268@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > > > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > > > news:3c1d953a_1@binaries.vphos.net...
> > > > >
> > > > > > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in
message
> > > > > > news:7ceT7.16299$Sj1.9067271@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > > > > > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:3c1d6877_2@binaries.vphos.net...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in
> > message
> > > > > > > > news:PNcT7.15913$Sj1.8990351@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > > > > > > > > "Richard Phillips"  wrote in
message
> > > > > > > > > news:3C1D55FD.230FF219@earthlink.net...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Philip Mathews wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in
> > message
> > > > > > > > > > > news:3c1cfb1a_1@binaries.vphos.net...
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > After stripping the German prisoners of their
> > > > > > > > > > > > Prisoner-of-war status (to which they were
certainly
> > > > > > entitled)
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > instead
> > > > > > > > > > > > designating them as Disarmed Enemy Forces, thus
> > > > conveniently
> > > > > > > > removing
> > > > > > > > > > > > them
> > > > > > > > > > > > from the protection of the Geneva Convention.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/ftp.py?people//b/bacque.james/ambro
> > > > > > > > se.0
> > > > > > > > > > > 01
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > According to Mr. Bacque, Eisenhower personally,
> > secretly,
> > > > and
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > >    sinister intent changed the status of
surrendered
> > > > German
> > > > > > > > soldiers
> > > > > > > > > > >    from prisoners of war to disarmed enemy forces.
In
> > > > fact,
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > change
> > > > > > > > > > >    in designation was a policy matter. The
decision
> > was
> > > > made
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > by
> > > > > > > > > > >    Eisenhower but by his superiors, specifically
by
> > the
> > > > > > European
> > > > > > > > > > >    Advisory Commission. Nor was any attempt made
to
> > keep
> > > > it
> > > > > > > > secret.
> > > > > > > > > > >    All those involved acted with the authority of
the
> > > > British,
> > > > > > > > Russian
> > > > > > > > > > >    and American Governments, and they were
perfectly
> > > > > > > > straightforward
> > > > > > > > > > >    about the reason for the change in status.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > There was never the slightest justification for such
an
> > > > order
> > > > > > nor
> > > > > > > > was
> > > > > > > > > there any
> > > > > > > > > > precedent for it in Internatainal Law.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > There was every justification for the order.  Existing
> > > > > > designations
> > > > > > > > required
> > > > > > > > > the German prisoners of war to be given a daily
caloric
> > intake
> > > > > > > > impossible to
> > > > > > > > > match with millions of other Europeans under US
control
> > during
> > > > a
> > > > > > > > massive
> > > > > > > > > food shortage. Any decent human being would recognize
the
> > > > ultimate
> > > > > > > > fairness
> > > > > > > > > of distributing limited food on an equal basis to all
> > those in
> > > > > > need.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >  >The captured German soldiers were
> > > > > > > > > > prisoners-of-war --period--  and, as such, were
entitled
> > to
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > protection
> > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > the Geneva Convention. If Eisenhower had had any
> > character
> > > > he
> > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > only
> > > > > > > > > > have defied the order, he would have regarded it as
an
> > > > insult to
> > > > > > his
> > > > > > > > > military
> > > > > > > > > > honour. Patton would certainly have treated it that
way.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Defying the order would have meant providing millions
of
> > other
> > > > > > human
> > > > > > > > beings
> > > > > > > > > with less than  life sustaining quantities of food
simply
> > to
> > > > meet
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > well
> > > > > > > > > intentioned, but improper standard in light of the
food
> > supply
> > > > > > > > situation.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >    What happened is simple enough: the Allies
could
> > not
> > > > afford
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > feed
> > > > > > > > > > >    the millions of German prisoners at the same
level
> > at
> > > > which
> > > > > > > > they
> > > > > > > > > > >    were able to feed German civilians, not to
mention
> > the
> > > > > > > > civilians of
> > > > > > > > > > >    the liberated countries of Western Europe, and
not
> > to
> > > > > > mention
> > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > > >    well the displaced persons. But the United
States
> > and
> > > > other
> > > > > > > > Allied
> > > > > > > > > > >    nations had signed the Geneva Convention, which
had
> > the
> > > > > > force
> > > > > > > > of a
> > > > > > > > > > >    treaty. They did not wish to violate it, so
they
> > used
> > > > the
> > > > > > new
> > > > > > > > > > >    designation of "Disarmed Enemy Forces." The
orders
> > to
> > > > the
> > > > > > field
> > > > > > > > > > >    commanders were straighforward: do not feed the
> > DEF's
> > > > at a
> > > > > > > > higher
> > > > > > > > > > >    scale than German civilians.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > (1) The Displaced Persons were not  our
responsibility.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > That is not your decision to make. Ike, the US Army,
and
> > the
> > > > US
> > > > > > > > government
> > > > > > > > > are not ignorant, heartless fucks, like you are.
> > > > > > > > > They made the proper decision.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > (2) Neither were the citizens of the liberated
> > countries.
> > > > Those
> > > > > > > > countries
> > > > > > > > > had
> > > > > > > > > > governments in place and it was their responsibility
to
> > feed
> > > > > > their
> > > > > > > > own
> > > > > > > > > people.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > They did not have governments in place. More
> > pseudo-knowledge
> > > > from
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > idiot
> > > > > > > > > Phillips.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > (3) Our responsibility was strictly for the
civilians
> > under
> > > > our
> > > > > > > > occupation
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > the POWs (sorry, DEFs) in our custody.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Our responsiblity was whatever we decided it was, not
what
> > you
> > > > > > wish.
> > > > > > > > Quite
> > > > > > > > > an American you are Phillips, wishing we had treated
> > German
> > > > > > soldiers
> > > > > > > > to a
> > > > > > > > > higher standard than the millions of displaced human
> > beings
> > > > > > destitute
> > > > > > > > > because of Nazi Germany's policies.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > (4) Civilians are free to beg, borrow, or buy food
from
> > > > whomever
> > > > > > > > they can.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > No, they are not, not under a self governing
proposition,
> > and
> > > > > > > > certainly not
> > > > > > > > > under a military occupation.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > (5) If what you say is true then what can justify
the
> > > > standing
> > > > > > > > orders to
> > > > > > > > > the GI
> > > > > > > > > > guards to shoot any German civilians attempting to
bring
> > > > food to
> > > > > > > > > prisoners.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The control of food supplies under extreme conditions.
If
> > the
> > > > > > citizens
> > > > > > > > had
> > > > > > > > > excess food, it belonged to all those who needed it.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > (6) America had enormous reserve stocks of food and
> > superb
> > > > rail
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > shipping
> > > > > > > > > > facilities for moving them where they were needed.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > No it didn't. This is just your repeated lie from
another
> > > > post.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > You know Richard, at your age you have very little
time
> > left
> > > > to
> > > > > > > > exhibit some
> > > > > > > > > intellectual honesty. And spewing lies just because
you
> > want
> > > > to
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > something to say is not going to get you there.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You are really screwed up Mathews
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What's the matter Knoll, those welts starting to smart?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Your is the American way first you
> > > > > > > > screw people the you
> > > > > > > > convince the it is their own fault.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Oh, that sounds more like the line of argument of Jew
haters
> > like
> > > > > > yourself,
> > > > > > > now doesn't it Knoll.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >I did hear this over and over again.
> > > > > > > > Your friend Jeffery Brown is a typical
> > > > > > > > example of how it works. There are Millions on both
sides
> > but it
> > > > is
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > first and foremost
> > > > > > > > objective to use dirty politics to discredit all that
oppose
> > > > you.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There aren't millions on both sides. There are millions,
and
> > then
> > > > > > there are
> > > > > > > you tiny few throw backs who will soon be gone.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The more effort you but into it the less I and others
will
> > trust
> > > > you
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > it is already happening from
> > > > > > > > what I can see.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Who cares if liars and haters like you trust anyone? It is
> > enough
> > > > that
> > > > > > > others see your lies exposed and catch a glimpse of the
true
> > face
> > > > of
> > > > > > Nazism
> > > > > > > before it passes away.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Who say I hate Jews you are wrong I just want them do
disappear.
> > > > >
> > > > > I say you hate Jews, and you provide the proof every day.
> > >
> > > > As long as you and your kind scews people around you will have
> > people
> > > > like me.
> > >
> > > It is your kind who does the screwing around, and we took care of
that
> > about
> > > 55 years ago.
>
> > Are you one of the many Jews who lend money to some German Farmers
that
> > could not
> > read or write and the added a couple more zeros do it after the
contract
> > was signed ?.
>
> Sounds like the antisemitic tales told by the Nazis. Did you learn it
in the
> Hitler Youth?
> >
> > If you did then you know why the Germans hated Jews.
>
> Those Germans who hated Jews were fed hateful lies from scum like you
Knoll.
>
> But Germans don't buy that crap anymore, so you have to hide out in
the
> wilds of Canada.
>
> --
> Philip Mathews
>
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:12 EST 2002
Article: 1289309 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Coming from you it is a Joke you call everybody a liar and jet you are
the most notorious one there is.

Kurt Knoll.
===========
"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
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> In article <3c1fefdf_1@binaries.vphos.net>, "Lying Shit Knoll"
>  wrote:
>
> > You are repulsive
>
> I understand that you find "repulsive" anyone who exposes the lies
that you and
> your brother post.
>
> If you don't want your lies exposed, simply stop posting lies,
Kurtsie. It's
> just that simple.
>
> JGB
>
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown
jeffreygbrown@mailandnews.com
> For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
> to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
> To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study",
1997




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:12 EST 2002
Article: 1289322 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Give yourself a break you sound like (Ein Abschaum Der Menschheit).

Kurt Knoll.
==============
"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
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> In article <3c1ff77b_1@binaries.vphos.net>, "Lying Shit Knoll"
>  wrote:
>
> > Coming from you it is a Joke you call everybody a liar
>
> Nope. The only people I refer to as liars are those who lie.
>
> You and your brother lie, Kurtsie. Therefore, you are liars.
>
> > and jet you are the most notorious one there is.
>
> And "jet" you and your imbecile brother haven't been able to cite one
single
> instance in which I have lied.
>
> JGB
>
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown
jeffreygbrown@mailandnews.com
> For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
> to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
> To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study",
1997




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:12 EST 2002
Article: 1289323 of alt.revisionism
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Now I did learn how you Abschaum Operates.

Kurt Knoll.
==========
"Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
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> > >
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> > > > >
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> > > > > > > > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in
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> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > "Philip Mathews"  wrote
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> > > > message
> > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > > > "Richard Phillips"  wrote in
> > message
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> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Philip Mathews wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote
in
> > > > message
> > > > > > > > > > > > > news:3c1cfb1a_1@binaries.vphos.net...
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > After stripping the German prisoners of
their
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prisoner-of-war status (to which they were
> > certainly
> > > > > > > > entitled)
> > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > instead
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > designating them as Disarmed Enemy Forces,
thus
> > > > > > conveniently
> > > > > > > > > > removing
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > them
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > from the protection of the Geneva
Convention.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/ftp.py?people//b/bacque.james/ambro
> > > > > > > > > > se.0
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 01
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > According to Mr. Bacque, Eisenhower
personally,
> > > > secretly,
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > > >    sinister intent changed the status of
> > surrendered
> > > > > > German
> > > > > > > > > > soldiers
> > > > > > > > > > > > >    from prisoners of war to disarmed enemy
forces.
> > In
> > > > > > fact,
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > change
> > > > > > > > > > > > >    in designation was a policy matter. The
> > decision
> > > > was
> > > > > > made
> > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > by
> > > > > > > > > > > > >    Eisenhower but by his superiors,
specifically
> > by
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > European
> > > > > > > > > > > > >    Advisory Commission. Nor was any attempt
made
> > to
> > > > keep
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > secret.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >    All those involved acted with the authority
of
> > the
> > > > > > British,
> > > > > > > > > > Russian
> > > > > > > > > > > > >    and American Governments, and they were
> > perfectly
> > > > > > > > > > straightforward
> > > > > > > > > > > > >    about the reason for the change in status.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > There was never the slightest justification for
such
> > an
> > > > > > order
> > > > > > > > nor
> > > > > > > > > > was
> > > > > > > > > > > there any
> > > > > > > > > > > > precedent for it in Internatainal Law.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > There was every justification for the order.
Existing
> > > > > > > > designations
> > > > > > > > > > required
> > > > > > > > > > > the German prisoners of war to be given a daily
> > caloric
> > > > intake
> > > > > > > > > > impossible to
> > > > > > > > > > > match with millions of other Europeans under US
> > control
> > > > during
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > massive
> > > > > > > > > > > food shortage. Any decent human being would
recognize
> > the
> > > > > > ultimate
> > > > > > > > > > fairness
> > > > > > > > > > > of distributing limited food on an equal basis to
all
> > > > those in
> > > > > > > > need.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >  >The captured German soldiers were
> > > > > > > > > > > > prisoners-of-war --period--  and, as such, were
> > entitled
> > > > to
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > protection
> > > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > the Geneva Convention. If Eisenhower had had any
> > > > character
> > > > > > he
> > > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > > only
> > > > > > > > > > > > have defied the order, he would have regarded it
as
> > an
> > > > > > insult to
> > > > > > > > his
> > > > > > > > > > > military
> > > > > > > > > > > > honour. Patton would certainly have treated it
that
> > way.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Defying the order would have meant providing
millions
> > of
> > > > other
> > > > > > > > human
> > > > > > > > > > beings
> > > > > > > > > > > with less than  life sustaining quantities of food
> > simply
> > > > to
> > > > > > meet
> > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > well
> > > > > > > > > > > intentioned, but improper standard in light of the
> > food
> > > > supply
> > > > > > > > > > situation.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >    What happened is simple enough: the Allies
> > could
> > > > not
> > > > > > afford
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > feed
> > > > > > > > > > > > >    the millions of German prisoners at the
same
> > level
> > > > at
> > > > > > which
> > > > > > > > > > they
> > > > > > > > > > > > >    were able to feed German civilians, not to
> > mention
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > civilians of
> > > > > > > > > > > > >    the liberated countries of Western Europe,
and
> > not
> > > > to
> > > > > > > > mention
> > > > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > > > > >    well the displaced persons. But the United
> > States
> > > > and
> > > > > > other
> > > > > > > > > > Allied
> > > > > > > > > > > > >    nations had signed the Geneva Convention,
which
> > had
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > force
> > > > > > > > > > of a
> > > > > > > > > > > > >    treaty. They did not wish to violate it, so
> > they
> > > > used
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > new
> > > > > > > > > > > > >    designation of "Disarmed Enemy Forces." The
> > orders
> > > > to
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > field
> > > > > > > > > > > > >    commanders were straighforward: do not feed
the
> > > > DEF's
> > > > > > at a
> > > > > > > > > > higher
> > > > > > > > > > > > >    scale than German civilians.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > (1) The Displaced Persons were not  our
> > responsibility.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > That is not your decision to make. Ike, the US
Army,
> > and
> > > > the
> > > > > > US
> > > > > > > > > > government
> > > > > > > > > > > are not ignorant, heartless fucks, like you are.
> > > > > > > > > > > They made the proper decision.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > (2) Neither were the citizens of the liberated
> > > > countries.
> > > > > > Those
> > > > > > > > > > countries
> > > > > > > > > > > had
> > > > > > > > > > > > governments in place and it was their
responsibility
> > to
> > > > feed
> > > > > > > > their
> > > > > > > > > > own
> > > > > > > > > > > people.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > They did not have governments in place. More
> > > > pseudo-knowledge
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > idiot
> > > > > > > > > > > Phillips.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > (3) Our responsibility was strictly for the
> > civilians
> > > > under
> > > > > > our
> > > > > > > > > > occupation
> > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > the POWs (sorry, DEFs) in our custody.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Our responsiblity was whatever we decided it was,
not
> > what
> > > > you
> > > > > > > > wish.
> > > > > > > > > > Quite
> > > > > > > > > > > an American you are Phillips, wishing we had
treated
> > > > German
> > > > > > > > soldiers
> > > > > > > > > > to a
> > > > > > > > > > > higher standard than the millions of displaced
human
> > > > beings
> > > > > > > > destitute
> > > > > > > > > > > because of Nazi Germany's policies.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > (4) Civilians are free to beg, borrow, or buy
food
> > from
> > > > > > whomever
> > > > > > > > > > they can.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > No, they are not, not under a self governing
> > proposition,
> > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > certainly not
> > > > > > > > > > > under a military occupation.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > (5) If what you say is true then what can
justify
> > the
> > > > > > standing
> > > > > > > > > > orders to
> > > > > > > > > > > the GI
> > > > > > > > > > > > guards to shoot any German civilians attempting
to
> > bring
> > > > > > food to
> > > > > > > > > > > prisoners.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > The control of food supplies under extreme
conditions.
> > If
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > citizens
> > > > > > > > > > had
> > > > > > > > > > > excess food, it belonged to all those who needed
it.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > (6) America had enormous reserve stocks of food
and
> > > > superb
> > > > > > rail
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > shipping
> > > > > > > > > > > > facilities for moving them where they were
needed.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > No it didn't. This is just your repeated lie from
> > another
> > > > > > post.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > You know Richard, at your age you have very little
> > time
> > > > left
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > exhibit some
> > > > > > > > > > > intellectual honesty. And spewing lies just
because
> > you
> > > > want
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > > something to say is not going to get you there.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > You are really screwed up Mathews
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > What's the matter Knoll, those welts starting to
smart?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >Your is the American way first you
> > > > > > > > > > screw people the you
> > > > > > > > > > convince the it is their own fault.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Oh, that sounds more like the line of argument of Jew
> > haters
> > > > like
> > > > > > > > yourself,
> > > > > > > > > now doesn't it Knoll.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >I did hear this over and over again.
> > > > > > > > > > Your friend Jeffery Brown is a typical
> > > > > > > > > > example of how it works. There are Millions on both
> > sides
> > > > but it
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > first and foremost
> > > > > > > > > > objective to use dirty politics to discredit all
that
> > oppose
> > > > > > you.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > There aren't millions on both sides. There are
millions,
> > and
> > > > then
> > > > > > > > there are
> > > > > > > > > you tiny few throw backs who will soon be gone.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The more effort you but into it the less I and
others
> > will
> > > > trust
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > it is already happening from
> > > > > > > > > > what I can see.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Who cares if liars and haters like you trust anyone?
It is
> > > > enough
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > others see your lies exposed and catch a glimpse of
the
> > true
> > > > face
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > Nazism
> > > > > > > > > before it passes away.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Who say I hate Jews you are wrong I just want them do
> > disappear.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I say you hate Jews, and you provide the proof every day.
> > > > >
> > > > > > As long as you and your kind scews people around you will
have
> > > > people
> > > > > > like me.
> > > > >
> > > > > It is your kind who does the screwing around, and we took care
of
> > that
> > > > about
> > > > > 55 years ago.
> > >
> > > > Are you one of the many Jews who lend money to some German
Farmers
> > that
> > > > could not
> > > > read or write and the added a couple more zeros do it after the
> > contract
> > > > was signed ?.
> > >
> > > Sounds like the antisemitic tales told by the Nazis. Did you learn
it
> > in the
> > > Hitler Youth?
> > > >
> > > > If you did then you know why the Germans hated Jews.
> > >
> > > Those Germans who hated Jews were fed hateful lies from scum like
you
> > Knoll.
> > >
> > > But Germans don't buy that crap anymore, so you have to hide out
in
> > the
> > > wilds of Canada.
>
> > I did not learn this in the Hitler youth because I was never a
member
> > but did hear this from Farmers
> > I did live with in 1942 till 1945.
>
> You learned to hate Jews from farmers?
>
> --
> Philip Mathews
>
>
>
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:13 EST 2002
Article: 1289353 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.politics,us.politics
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You sure sound like a kid that did have too Many lollipops drop death.

Kurt Knoll.
=
"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
news:jeffreygbrown-FD558F.22375718122001@news.alt.net...
> In article <3c20086a_1@binaries.vphos.net>, "Lying Shit Knoll"
>  wrote:
>
> > "Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
> > news:jeffreygbrown-65C2FD.21305818122001@news.alt.net...
> > > In article <3c1ff77b_1@binaries.vphos.net>, "Lying Shit Knoll"
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Coming from you it is a Joke you call everybody a liar
> > >
> > > Nope. The only people I refer to as liars are those who lie.
> > >
> > > You and your brother lie, Kurtsie. Therefore, you are liars.
> > >
> > > > and jet you are the most notorious one there is.
> > >
> > > And "jet" you and your imbecile brother haven't been able to cite
one single
> > > instance in which I have lied.
>
> > Give yourself a break you sound like (Ein Abschaum Der Menschheit).
>
> And you sound like a hysterical little bigot who still can't back up
its claims
> that I am a "notorious" liar, little fool.
>
> JGB
>
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown
jeffreygbrown@mailandnews.com
> For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
> to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
> To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study",
1997




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:13 EST 2002
Article: 1289366 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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You sure sound like a kid that did have too Many lollipops drop death
Jeffery.

"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
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[snip]

>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:13 EST 2002
Article: 1289399 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Mr Keenan here is some more scoop for you on Kenneth McVay and there is
more plenty of
info on Your hero Kenneth McVay. Yesterday alone i did download about a
16k on it.
Here is one i am sure there is a lot more.

Kurt Knoll.
===========

Kenneth McVay,SOBC, convicted of child molesting and car theft in
California and Oregon, the well-known fag in Canada,Fag McVay of
Vancouver,
also a convicted car thief and all round molester, and still unemployed
gas pump boy, mastermind of the Canadian branch of NAMBLA, wants all to
know about all his fellow criminals and perverts. Here is the
latest.......

Disgraced delusional paranoid & second-rate  bookkeeper, de-frocked by
the
Certified General Accountants of Canada for repeated violations of their
Professional Code of Ethics and general incompetence, seeks accounting
position with cash-rich firm run by stupid ZHID managers with little or
no
accounting expertise and a weak internal security department.

Will relocate to Israel for the right embezzlement opportunity, and
provide
my own Barbie Dolls (ZHID RABBIS BETTER NOT MOLEST MY BARBIES!). My
limited
experience with Molotov Cocktails and Insurance Fraud could be an
additional benefit in dealing with your competitors!!

I am known internationally for not just getting angry, but for getting
even. Some people even had to keep on losing 16 international projects
before they learned that I never give up. I'm not known as the biggest
asshole in Redmonton for NOTHING!!

I bring proven embezzlement skills to your firm and solid experience in
assault, extortion, and libel, along with a proudly documented
international record of arrests and convictions for a broad range of
indictable offenses, beginning in  Newcastle-upon-Tyne, where I was
known
by my true name, Billy Gruber, AS RELIABLY REPORTED IN THE
ZHID-CONTROLLED
MEDIA!!

ALL TRUE, as reported by reliable newspapers!

If your firm seeks to benefit from government programs designed to
assist
the criminally insane to lead productive lives, I offer this opportunity
for you to dip into the public trough while I dip into yours.

I am an equal-opportunity thief. I will steal money from anyone, even
ZHIDS
and FAGGOTS, but I won't consider offering my services to FAGGOTS,
ZHIDS,
NATIVES, FROGS, POLES, UKRAINIANS, RUSSIANS or  SLOVAKS,  IMMIGRANTS or
CRIMINALS, who are undesirables in any case, UNLESS YOU HAVE VERY LARGE
TREASURIES.

I DON'T hate Chinese, Malaysians, Singaporeans, Taiwanese, Germans,
Iranians or Iraquis, just to name a few of the groups of people that I
respect, unless they disagree with me.

I presently serve as the PRESIDENT and CEO of the following
International
concerns, none of which have any clients, addresses, or telephone
numbers,
thanks to the  FAGGOT ZHIDS who took exception to being cheated:

The GROSVENOR INTERNATIONAL GROUP
INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTE OF MANAGEMENT INC (which isn't incorporated, but
it
sounds more like  a REAL business if I claim that it is.)
GROSVENOR STAMP CO. ( buys stamps from people stupid enough to send them
to
us without payment.)
UNIQUE COMPUTER DISTRIBUTING (which does  not have  or distribute
computers, or anything else, but which can supply loaded 286
motherboards
to Cubans too dumb to know any better.)

ALL TRUE, as reported by reliable newspapers!

Contact William (Gruber) Grosvenor, CGA (Certified General Asshole)
9208-137 AVENUE
DEADMONTON, ALBERTA
CANADA T5E 1Y5
780-475-5555 or 780-475-9668
intergroup@grosvenor.net

"At a time of universal deceipt - telling the truth is something I
refuse
to do." (William Grosvenor)

David Icke - '...and the truth should of scare you shitless'

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT, then ignore me.

William Gruber
Bill Gruber
William Grosvenor
Bill Grosvenor




"Patrick Keenan"  wrote in message
news:bYUT7.18277$x25.2111752@news20.bellglobal.com...
>
> "P_R_I_V_A_T_E--C_I_T_Z_E_N"
>  wrote in message
> news:87nv1usr2d46m78kdk8io76lajaefemo1o@4ax.com...
> > On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 01:16:05 +0000 (UTC),
<9vm5ck$2ik2$1@news.tht.net>
> > kmcvay@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
> >
> > >In article ,
> > >Patrick Keenan  wrote:
> > >
> > >[Knoll flushed]
> > >
> > >>Well, no point in discussing further with you, since you don't
seem to
> > >>understand  your responsibilites or the position you've put
yourself in.
> > >>
> > >>I will suggest that you have your attorney explain it to you.
> > :
> > >That is very good advice.
> > >
> > >The material Mr. Knoll republished is poisonous and deleterious,
> > >as it makes statements about me which are completely false,
> > >libelous and defamatory within the meaning of section 299 of
> > >the Criminal Code of Canada.
> >
> > Would section 299 of the Criminal Code of Canada apply against you
as
> well?
>
> It would, if Mr. McVay didn't hold the required ace.   The ace is the
> absolute defence for Section 299:  Section 311.
>
> http://insight.cas.mcmaster.ca/org/efc/pages/law/cc/cc.311.html
>
> WHEN TRUTH A DEFENCE.
> 311. No person shall be deemed to publish a defamatory libel where he
proves
> that the publication of the defamatory matter in the manner in which
it was
> published was for the public benefit at the time when it was published
and
> that the matter itself was true. [R.S., c.C-34, s.275.]
>
> > You are republishing material about me which is "poisonous and
> deleterious,
> > as it makes statements about me which are completely false.." when
you
> keep the
> > false accusations Yale F. Edeiken made against me on your web site.
I won
> the
> > lawsuit and had the judgment DISMISSED and Yale lost his appeal
>
> Not exactly applicable, as I understand what happened.   Mr. Eideken
lost on
> jurisdictional, not factual, grounds,didn't he?
>
> In fact, it seems that you chose not to challenge what Mr. Eideken
presented
> to the court,  and his presentation was accepted as fact by the court.
>
> By failing to respond, you have to legal and practical effect, agreed
that
> his presentation was true.   This may well limit the effectivemess of
a
> claim by you that the information is false.
>
> If you feel this is *not* the case, you are of course afforded the
> opportunity to seek redress under these laws; they are for everyone.
> However, you're now in the position of having to prove false what you
> effectively admitted to be true, rather than simply forcing Mr. McVay
to
> prove true what the court accepted as true.
>
> >YET you keep his
> > false accusations featured at your web site. I have pointed out the
> numerous
> > falsehoods Yale made yet you persist. There are plenty of GOOGLE
archives
> > demonstrating that I have complained about the Nizkor web site
propagating
> lies
> > about me and even giving out my address and telephone number!!
>
> But you didn't prove they were lies where it mattered - in court.
>
> > >By republishing the false information, Mr. Knoll is perpetuating
> > >the defamation, and enhancing its availability, since anyone who
> > >does a search of my name on any of the major search engines
> > >may come up with this misinformation,
> >
> > You are doing the same to me you hypocrite and until you remove the
lies
> about
> > me 9and your lies about other private citizens) you have no argument
> against
> > anyone.
>
> Sure he does.
>
> > >which is certainly damaging to me in my capacity as a civil
libertarian
> and
> > >human rights advocate.
> >
> > You told two lies above! You are neither and for a fact you are the
> willing dupe
> > of two organizations which are enemies of free speech.
> >
> > >Mr. Knoll would indeed be well advised to discuss this matter with
his
> > >attorney, and do so quickly, as he has laid himself open to both
civil
> > >and criminal liability by republishing false allegations.
> >
> > The same would apply to you then seeing how you are doing to others
what
> you are
> > accusing Mr. Knoll of.
>
> Please see Section 311  above.   If you feel you can prove what a
court
> agreed was true is false, you're quite welcome to do so.
>
> Note that you may also run into the same jurisdictional issues as Mr.
> Eideken.
>
> >
> > >Mr. Knoll can avoid civil consequences by publishing a complete and
> > >unqualified retraction in alt.revisionism , can.general, and
> > >us.politics within 24 hours.
> >
> > That was the same threat Yale made against me and I never apologized
to
> the
> > shyster either!
>
> And you escaped the consequences only on jurisdicitional, not factual,
> grounds, as I understand it.
>
> Your situation differs from Mr. Knoll's; he has plainly transgressed
the
> law, and is in the same federal jurisdiction as Mssrs. McVay, Morris,
and
> McFee.
>
> >
> > >If he fails to do this, he _will_ be subject to civil action.
> > >
> > >As the criminal investigation is in the hands of the RCMP, it's out
> > >of my hands.
> >
> > I will report your smears to RCMP and send them the documents which
prove
> I had
> > a judgement overturned and the case dismissed at all levels within
the
> State of
> > Pennsylvania with and inquiry as to why you keep propagating Yale's
> numerous
> > lies against me.
>
> Again, the defence allowed is truth.   Mr. Eideken lost on
jurisdiction,
> not truth.   By themselves, your documents may not help you, since
they may
> not address the valid defence of your complaint.
>
> >
> > >I encourage the other victims of Mr. Knoll's defamatory libel to
> > >contact their solicitors with respect to a civil libel suit, and to
> > >contact the RCMP or their local police authority with respect to
> > >criminal charges as appropriate.
> >
> > I haven't seen him libel you. Stick it where the sun doesn't shine!
>
> Then you really haven't paid attention, or actually read the laws or
Mr.
> Knoll's post.
>
> -pk
>
> >
> > Doc Tavish
> >
> > ---
> > "We are not allowed to drink any wine or grape juice, or any drink
> containing
> > wine or grape juice, which has been touched by a non-Jew after the
seal of
> the
> > bottle has been opened."

> > Information taken from: Is it Kosher, Rabbi E. Eidlitz and Spice and
> Spirit,
> > The Lubavitch Women's Cookbook Publications (July 12, 2001)
> > Schulchan Aruch, Johre Deah, 122: "A Jew is forbidden to drink from
a
> > glass of wine which a Gentile has touched, because the touch has
made the
> > wine unclean." Jewish Talmud
> >
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:14 EST 2002
Article: 1289593 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
Newsgroups: bc.politics,can.politics,alt.revisionism
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Barry Bruyea doesn't know what a blank check is maybe we let him fill in
the amount ?.
Kurt Knoll.



==
"E. Barry Bruyea"  wrote in message
news:3c208276.8598726@news.gate-way.net...
> On 18 Dec 2001 21:10:22 -0500, hs@heaven.nirvananet (Hartmann
> Schaffer) wrote:
>
> >In article ,
> > Joel Rosenberg  writes:
> >> "Kurt Knoll"  writes:
> >>
> >>> You are right but not only that the Germans after the World War I
did
> >>> have to sign a Blank Check.
> >>
> >>
> >> Well, no, it wasn't a blank check -- Versailles called for Germany
to
> >> pay for the damage it caused, and while it was a large sum, it was
> >> hardly full compensation, or a blank check . . .
> >>
> >> . . . and the Germans weaseled out of it, anyway.
> >
> >how so?
> >
> >hs
>
> By encouraging hyper-inflation of the currency.
>
> >
> >--
> >
> >how are we defending our freedom and democracy by dismantling them?
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:14 EST 2002
Article: 1289594 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.politics,us.politics
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Great Doc Tavish keep on posting it I want to know everything there is
to know about this
Kenneth McVay better more than less.

Kurt Knoll.
============
"P_R_I_V_A_T_E--C_I_T_I_Z_E_N"
 wrote in message
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> On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 11:10:41 -0000, <3c20743e@212.67.96.135>
"david_michael"
>  wrote:
>
> >"Kenneth McVay, OBC"  wrote in message
> >news:9vop5b$5b$1@news.tht.net...
> >> In article <87nv1usr2d46m78kdk8io76lajaefemo1o@4ax.com>,
> >> P_R_I_V_A_T_E--C_I_T_Z_E_N
> > wrote:
> >> >On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 01:16:05 +0000 (UTC),
<9vm5ck$2ik2$1@news.tht.net>
> >> >kmcvay@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>In article ,
> >> >>Patrick Keenan  wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>[Knoll flushed]
>
> [...]
>
> >> >>The material Mr. Knoll republished is poisonous and deleterious,
> >> >>as it makes statements about me which are completely false,
> >> >>libelous and defamatory within the meaning of section 299 of
> >> >>the Criminal Code of Canada.
> :
> >> >Would section 299 of the Criminal Code of Canada apply against you
as
> >> >well?
> :
> >> No. The documents on Nizkor relating to the court action are public
> >> documents which anyone can obtain from the Clerk of the Court. In
> >> short, they are an official part of the legal record, just like the
> >> Judgment.
> :
> >> >You are republishing material about me which is "poisonous and
> >> >deleterious, as it makes statements about me which are completely
false.."
> >> >when you keep the false accusations Yale F. Edeiken made against
me on your
> >> >web site. I won the lawsuit and had the judgment DISMISSED and
Yale lost
> >> >his appeal YET you keep his
> :
> >> The lawsuit's outcome was _not_ based on the allegations made by
Mr.
> >> Edeiken, but solely on the issue of jurisdiction. The Judge did
_not_
> >> conclude that the allegations were false, and, in fact, accepted
them
> >> as fact.
> >>
> >> You can blubber about this until hell freezes over, and
misrepresent
> >> the Judgments, but you cannot change the facts.
> >>
> >> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/b/bradbury.scott
> >>
> >> 
> :
> >I have checked this out with a Vancouver attorney. Mr McVay is
incorrect.
> >Reposting of these defamatory allegations goes beyond mere reportage
and is
> >actionable. The catch is that you have to incur some damages
demonstrably as
> >a result of this defamation before you can sue for compensation. But
that
> >cuts both ways.
> >
> >David
>
> I now have CCRA interested in McVay's funding methods. Perhaps his own
> government will go after him. I will keep the pressure on McVay by
exposing how
> a web site gets "exempt donations" when it is otherwise not eligible
to receive
> any. He and his masters definitely have a tax scam going!
>
> Doc Tavish
>
> ---
> "We are not allowed to drink any wine or grape juice, or any drink
containing
> wine or grape juice, which has been touched by a non-Jew after the
seal of the
> bottle has been opened." 
> Information taken from: Is it Kosher, Rabbi E. Eidlitz and Spice and
Spirit,
> The Lubavitch Women's Cookbook Publications (July 12, 2001)
> Schulchan Aruch, Johre Deah, 122: "A Jew is forbidden to drink from a
> glass of wine which a Gentile has touched, because the touch has made
the
> wine unclean." Jewish Talmud
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:14 EST 2002
Article: 1289624 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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You live in a fictional world I have not seen the Movie but I sure like
to know where you definition
of Neo Nazi is coming from. As fore the movie I have not seen is this
one of Spielberg's protections
of intentional creating Propaganda for the Jews.

You movie is just as realistic as the one I have seen about the Roaring
20 ties from New York
where they did show Nazis and German SS Officers at a time were there
was not even
a NSDAP Party in Power in Germany .

As for your Mentality about Nazi your more than 55 Years of Brainwashing
and Creating Hate shows.

How much longer will you and your kind use this kind of Hate Mongering
for you Holohoax
extortion industry.

Kurt Knoll.
=========

Kurt Knoll.
========
"Michael Ragland"  wrote in message
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Herr Knoll:

Your comment to astron's mention of Dr. Helen Fein, "How long did it
last till the Orgasm", reminded me of a movie I saw on HBO years ago
about the rising neo_Nazi movement. After describing a scene in the
movie I was hoping if you could tell me if it represented you.

Well, in the movie a meeting is arranged for the neo_Nazis to watch a
film. The film is of a pretty young Jewess who has been kidnapped,
raped, and finally has her throat cut with a broken glass bottle.

Anyway, several neo-Nazis are sitting in chairs about to watch the
fillm. The "organizer" of the event hands out tissues to those coming in
so they will have something to wipe their semen up with afterwards.

As the young Jewess is being raped and murdered an older man is shown
jerking in his seat with his head kind of bopping up and down.

My question to you is would you willingly participate in such an event
and obtain gratification out of it? Whatever your answer (assuming you
bother to respond) explain your reasons for it.

MR




alt.revisionism Date: Wed, Dec 19, 2001, 1:20am (EST-3) From:

kknoll@yellowhead16.net (Kurt Knoll)

How long did it last till the Orgasm.
Kurt Knoll.
=========
"astron"  wrote in message
news:3C2048FD.373D52B2@bigpond.com.au...
Refer to Dr Helen Fein ( an American Jew) . She has plenty of experience
with Turkey and with David Irving , the anti-Semite author .
She agrees with me .





From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:15 EST 2002
Article: 1289625 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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In a communiqué from Roosevelt with Winston Churchill Roosevelt said he
will do anything
to get involved it the war even when it means to cheat and lie. The
Americans sunk
one of  their on ships and Blamed the Germans For it.

Kurt Knoll.
========
"Roger"  wrote in message
news:uiu02u456l6n8b5pam8ha3fihv2p8habp1@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 23:00:39 GMT, someone claiming to be Richard
> Phillips  wrote:
>
> >> "Joel Rosenberg"  wrote in message
> >> news:m2d71dsvqz.fsf@msp-65-25-234-54.mn.rr.com...
> >> >
> >> > Perhaps you should read one that you haven't colored in first.
It's
> >> > simply a matter of fact that your Reich declared war on the US,
after
> >> > FDR had asked for a declaration of war against the Empire of
Japan.
> >
> >That is true in a narrow technical sense but it takes no account of
the
> >fact that, for much of 1941 and to all intents and purposes, America
and
> >Germany were already AT war. I cite FDR's shoot-to-kill order to the
Navy
> >regarding German subs in our waters.
>
> Just checking:  would those be the same German subs that had already
> been sinking American merchant ships?




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:15 EST 2002
Article: 1290510 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Don't need it mine is stainless steel never wears out.

Kurt Knoll.
============
"E. Barry Bruyea"  wrote in message
news:3c20e573.16980883@news.gate-way.net...
> On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 08:15:11 -0800, "Kurt Knoll"
>  wrote:
>
> >Barry Bruyea doesn't know what a blank check is maybe we let him fill
in
> >the amount ?.
> >Kurt Knoll.
>
>
> How much would it take to keep up your Prozac prescription?
> >
> >
> >
> >==
> >"E. Barry Bruyea"  wrote in message
> >news:3c208276.8598726@news.gate-way.net...
> >> On 18 Dec 2001 21:10:22 -0500, hs@heaven.nirvananet (Hartmann
> >> Schaffer) wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article ,
> >> > Joel Rosenberg  writes:
> >> >> "Kurt Knoll"  writes:
> >> >>
> >> >>> You are right but not only that the Germans after the World War
I
> >did
> >> >>> have to sign a Blank Check.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Well, no, it wasn't a blank check -- Versailles called for
Germany
> >to
> >> >> pay for the damage it caused, and while it was a large sum, it
was
> >> >> hardly full compensation, or a blank check . . .
> >> >>
> >> >> . . . and the Germans weaseled out of it, anyway.
> >> >
> >> >how so?
> >> >
> >> >hs
> >>
> >> By encouraging hyper-inflation of the currency.
> >>
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >
> >> >how are we defending our freedom and democracy by dismantling
them?
> >>
> >
> >
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:15 EST 2002
Article: 1290511 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Great can you see to get more people involved in this. I think my
brother und a prelude of how this people operate.
No one should be under any illusions  this is exactly how this type of
people operate they have no shame.

Kurt Knoll.

"P_R_I_V_A_T_E--C_I_T_I_Z_E_N"
 wrote in message
news:oql12u8igc5proboss2damcfvkb17o3lub@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 08:19:07 -0800, <3c20be32_2@binaries.vphos.net>
"Kurt Knoll"
>  wrote:
>
> >Great Doc Tavish keep on posting it I want to know everything there
is
> >to know about this Kenneth McVay better more than less.
> >
> >Kurt Knoll.
>
> McVay's criminal accomplice has announced that he intends to flood the
news
> group and cancel all of my posts BUT for a fact I can prove:
> 1) McVay uses a money launderer to get exempt donations he is
otherwise not
> entitled to receive
> 2) McVay lied numerous times about his San Antonio Area Foundation
funding
> 3) McVay has an endowment fund which does not make GRANTS nor makes
public any
> information regarding its operation.
> 4) I can link Kenneth McVay to Laurence B. Shiff aka MARDUK aka
NAZIHUNTER who
> has made numerous death threats against me and posted bogus child porn
ads in
> attempt to frame me and another person. This same Shiff has been a
large donor
> to Nizkor and in fact provides Nizkor with its bandwidth!
> 5) I can show that Ken McVay allies himself with a political agency
which seeks
> to imprison people globally for selling books by Henry Ford and others
or for
> "Holocaust Denial."
>
> All proofs are fully documented too!
>
> Doc Tavish
>
> --
> Scott, your postured indignation impresses no one. With your
> obvious penis fetish, you're quite obviously either:
> a) a teenager who needs a girlfriend;
> b) impotent; or my favorite,
> c) both.
>                                   Andrew Mathis
>
> P.S. If you *are* underaged, by the way, I'd be more than happy to
>  meet you in a coffee shop as opposed to a place that serves alcohol.
> -From: aem0608@is2.nyu.edu
> -Subject: Re: Jeffrey G. Brown Accuses BUT Can't Back His Charges..
> -Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 01:25:30 GMT
> -Message-ID: <6t9u6a$o7u$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_umsgid=6t9u6a%24o7u%241@nnrp1.dejanew
s.com&hl=en




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:16 EST 2002
Article: 1290512 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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You must be naive. America is at war with Afghanistan because of someone
else.
How many time has America made their own rules while on the other hand
contemning others. Just compare it with Israel atrocities against the
Palestinians
if it was another country America would insist the UN Troops to
interfere.

Kurt Knoll.

"Roger"  wrote in message
news:9mk12u42brlj1c9t7du01fsji8ajs009i3@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 16:24:18 GMT, someone claiming to be Richard
> Phillips  wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >Roger wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 23:00:39 GMT, someone claiming to be Richard
> >> Phillips  wrote:
> >>
> >> >That is true in a narrow technical sense but it takes no account
of the
> >> >fact that, for much of 1941 and to all intents and purposes,
America and
> >> >Germany were already AT war. I cite FDR's shoot-to-kill order to
the Navy
> >> >regarding German subs in our waters.
> >>
> >> Just checking:  would those be the same German subs that had
already
> >> been sinking American merchant ships?
> >
> >Phillips
> >
> >Yes, they were the same subs that had been sinking American merchant
ships;
> >just as those merchant ships were the same ships that had been
carrying food
> >and war materiel to Germany's enemy Britain.
> >
> >Americans seem to believe that when two other countries are at war,
we should
> >be allowed to make money out of it, without incurring any of the
risks
> >involved. ("How dare they attack our ships. We're neutral.") For some
reason,
> >belligerents never see it that way.
>
> I see.  And given that America were * not * at war at that time, and
> those ships were being sunk while engaged in lawful trade, this
> response was improper because...?




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:16 EST 2002
Article: 1290560 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Can you proof Walendy is not an historian Mathews supply an honest proof
and trustworthy names.

Kurt Knoll.
==========
"Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
news:c6bd4de7.0112121344.734742c3@posting.google.com...
> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
news:<3c17b2e6_2@binaries.vphos.net>...
>
> > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
> > news:gsIR7.10278$Sj1.5771377@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > news:3c1734c6_1@binaries.vphos.net...
> > > > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in
> >  message
> >
> > > > news:EoBR7.10250$Sj1.5590004@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > > > > "Werner Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > > > news:3C16D7F4.F99BCCC1@telus.net...
> > > > > > Philip Mathews wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:3c16a9ce_2@binaries.vphos.net...
> >
> > > > > > > > > Can you name a single German historian denied
> >  access to
> >  the
> >  evidence
> > > > > > > > > contained in the archives of
> > > > > > > > > Germany or any other nation? Yes or no?
> >
> > > > > > > > Nothing changes I know an older Canadian
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm not interested in your stupid stories.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You should be interested in what he is saying because he
> >  was
> >  in Baghdad
> > > > > > when you were semen in your fathers balls!
> > > > >
> > > > > He's an idiot.
> > > > >
> > > > > > > Answer the question.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Can you name a single German historian denied access to
> >  the
> > > > > > > evidence contained in the archives of Germany or any
> >  other
> >  nation? Yes
> >  or
> > > > > > > no?
> >
> > > > > > Ask Udo Walendy a German writer and historian
> > > > >
> > > > > Walendy is not an historian. Stop lying. He's a crackpot.
> > > > >
> > > > > No answer for the question I see!
> > > > >
> > > > > > It is high time for people in Germany to send all their
> >  lawmaker to
> > > > > > Israel so Saddam can take care of them.
> > > > >
> > > > > Germans don't need advice from scum like you. Germans
> >  recoil in
> >  disgust from
> > > > > your type.
> >
> > > > I know Walendy is not a Jew ?.
> > >
> > > Well at least you know one thing.
> > >
> > > > Is this the reason why he does not know anything, arend you
> >  using
> > > > your same dirty approach
> > > > on all the others if the are not Jewish or Jewish supporters.
> > >
> > > He's not an historian, and thus citing him fails to support
> >  your original
> > > claim.
>
> > You mean anyone who writes about the second world war must be a
> > historian proofed by you.
>
> No, I mean what I said. No German historian who has written on the
> Holocaust would countenance anything you say other than as the ravings
> of an idiot.
>
>
> > I know in your holohoax movies you write your own script. You
> > want all the writers
> > who write about the holocaust to use your scrip to qualify.
>
> We're not talking about movies.
>
> > Now is a typical Jewish way to deceive the public.
>
> And your nonsense is a typical antisemite's venting of spleen.
>
> > Just remember the more you lie the more I and others will search
> > for the truth.
>
> LOL!
>
> Someone searching for the truth would exhibit some knowledge of the
> subject, wouldn't be ignorant of all of the most distinguished German
> historians of the subject (while being familiar with every wing nut),
> and wouldn't continually get caught telling obvious lies.
>
> --
> Philip Mathews




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:16 EST 2002
Article: 1290761 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Subject: Re: Lying Shit Knoll still fact-free
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Yes Hitler e.g. the Germans did have a very active trading with Africans
and other Nations
definitely and eye sore for great Britain. Both Germany and Great
Britain subsidized their
exports to corner the Markets. As an example sold some of their products
cheaper
than in their own country to gain the upper hand. This was one of the
reasons the British
hated the Germans and it has a lot to do why wars are being manipulated.

Kurt Knoll.
=========
"Charles Don Hall"  wrote in
message news:Xns917CDA416EEABNukuNuku@207.126.101.100...
> Richard Phillips  wrote in
> news:3C2138DF.48279158@earthlink.net:
>
> >
> > I believe that FDR WAS determined to get America into the European
war
> > and I believe that this determination aruse from four sources:
> >
> > (1) The severe recession of 1937 may have convinced him that ONLY
> > involvement in a major war was ever going to solve America's
> > unemployment problem - as, indeed, it did.
> >
> > (2) A severe personal antipathy to Hitler that probably had much to
do
> > with the fact that, in dealing with mass unemployment, Hitler had
> > succeeded where he (FDR) had failed. FDR would have been less than
> > human if that had not stuck in his craw.
>
> Can we think of any other things that Hitler did, that might have
caused
> people to dislike him?
>
> IMHO, Hitler was acting like a big jerk even in 1937. (And he got
worse
> later.)
>
>
> --
> ======================================
> Charles Don Hall, Licensed Philosopher
> ======================================




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:17 EST 2002
Article: 1290762 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Subject: Re: Nizkor's McVay in a State of Denial
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I wonder if the Romans were more democratic than the Jews. I do not
think there was ever a time
where histories was dictated to the people of any Nations the way the
Jews are trying to do it
world wide.

Kurt Knoll.
========
"National Front88"  wrote in message
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> [This gem is worth posting in its entirety, but I thought I'd remind
Nizkor's
> McVay that he's yet to reply to Doc Tavish now that his challenge to
provide
> evidence that Jewish organizations want to destroy free speech.  McVay
has yet
> to answer the question:  What sort of truth needs to be protected with
threat
> of prosecution?]
>
>
>
> Nizkor's Ken McVay now challenges:
> >Provide evidence that BB or the ADL have "destroy free speech." Use
> >your free speech to do so.
>
> How about this?
>
> http://bnaibrith.org/pr/brazil2.html
> (Link active December 3, 2001 for verification)
>
> From the World's Largest Jewish Organization
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> B'nai B'rith
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> LANDMARK COURT DECISION CONVICTS HOLOCAUST DENIER IN BRAZIL
> Washington, D.C. (November 7, 1996) -- For the first time in Latin
America a
> Holocaust denier has been found guilty and sentenced to two years in
prison.
> The landmark decision of the High Court of Justice in the southernmost
> Brazilian state of Rio Grande do Sul reversed a lower court ruling and
resulted
> in the conviction of Siegfried Ellwanger on grounds that he violated
the
> nation's constitution and penal code.
>
>  written and enacted! Tavish comment>
>
> The president of B'nai B'rith in Brazil hailed the decision.
>
>  global scale. Tavish comment>
>
> "Holocaust deniers such as Ellwanger seek to encourage racial and
religious
> divisions that are not compatible with our democratic society," said
Abrao
> Lowenthal.
>
>  people for mere words. Jews are the worst enemies of any nation's
> liberties there is- especially the United States! Tavish comment>
>
> B'nai B'rith along with other Jewish groups in Brazil brought
Ellwanger
> to trial.
>
>  eventually go on trial and be imprisoned for saying things the
Neo-Bolshevist
> progeny of the original Bolsheviks dislike! Tavish comment>
>
> Under the ruling, Ellwanger's books will be confiscated and banned.
Ellwanger,
> who writes under the name "S.E. Castan," has written or published 13
> anti-Semitic books in Portuguese including the infamous The Elders of
the
> Protocols of Zion and Henry Ford's The International Jew. One of
Ellwanger's
> books is titled The Holocaust: Jewish or German."
>
> 
>
> We know for a fact that B'nai Brith funds Ken McVay's Nizkor too as
this
> proves:
> http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
> The Nizkor Project
> c/o The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada
> Please make your donations payable to "The League for Human Rights of
> B'nai Brith Canada..."
>
> So we do know that an organizations which seeks as its agenda to have
people
> imprisoned for their views funds McVay. Looks like he's in bad company
and how
> can Nizkor not be: "an attack on the truth-seeking process itself"."
>
> What sort of truth needs to be protected with threat of prosecution?
So what if
> people deny the "Holocaust"? SO WHAT? Jews deny Christ so should we
prosecute
> them? Can't you see what Nizkor and McVay's masters are up to?
>
> I JUST EXPOSED LIE NUMBER ONE FROM WWW.NIZKOR.ORG KEN McVAY
>
> [...]
>
> "I lie face-up on the bed, my body a perfect X. Face up. Oh, Goddess,
he's
> going to whip my breasts." --Sara Salzman




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:17 EST 2002
Article: 1290764 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Subject: Re: An Lying Shit Knoll
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Were to you claim he is not do you have proof ?. Or does he have to be
Jewish to qualify for you.

Kurt Knoll.
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> > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
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> > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
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> > >
> > > > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
> > > > news:gsIR7.10278$Sj1.5771377@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > > > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > > > news:3c1734c6_1@binaries.vphos.net...
> > > > > > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in
> > > >  message
> > > >
> > > > > > news:EoBR7.10250$Sj1.5590004@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > > > > > > "Werner Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:3C16D7F4.F99BCCC1@telus.net...
> > > > > > > > Philip Mathews wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in
message
> > > > > > > > > news:3c16a9ce_2@binaries.vphos.net...
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Can you name a single German historian denied
> > > >  access to
> > > >  the
> > > >  evidence
> > > > > > > > > > > contained in the archives of
> > > > > > > > > > > Germany or any other nation? Yes or no?
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Nothing changes I know an older Canadian
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I'm not interested in your stupid stories.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You should be interested in what he is saying because he
> > > >  was
> > > >  in Baghdad
> > > > > > > > when you were semen in your fathers balls!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > He's an idiot.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Answer the question.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Can you name a single German historian denied access
to
> > > >  the
> > > > > > > > > evidence contained in the archives of Germany or any
> > > >  other
> > > >  nation? Yes
> > > >  or
> > > > > > > > > no?
> > > >
> > > > > > > > Ask Udo Walendy a German writer and historian
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Walendy is not an historian. Stop lying. He's a crackpot.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > No answer for the question I see!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It is high time for people in Germany to send all their
> > > >  lawmaker to
> > > > > > > > Israel so Saddam can take care of them.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Germans don't need advice from scum like you. Germans
> > > >  recoil in
> > > >  disgust from
> > > > > > > your type.
> > > >
> > > > > > I know Walendy is not a Jew ?.
> > > > >
> > > > > Well at least you know one thing.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Is this the reason why he does not know anything, arend you
> > > >  using
> > > > > > your same dirty approach
> > > > > > on all the others if the are not Jewish or Jewish
supporters.
> > > > >
> > > > > He's not an historian, and thus citing him fails to support
> > > >  your original
> > > > > claim.
> > >
> > > > You mean anyone who writes about the second world war must be a
> > > > historian proofed by you.
> > >
> > > No, I mean what I said. No German historian who has written on the
> > > Holocaust would countenance anything you say other than as the
ravings
> > > of an idiot.
> > >
> > >
> > > > I know in your holohoax movies you write your own script. You
> > > > want all the writers
> > > > who write about the holocaust to use your scrip to qualify.
> > >
> > > We're not talking about movies.
> > >
> > > > Now is a typical Jewish way to deceive the public.
> > >
> > > And your nonsense is a typical antisemite's venting of spleen.
> > >
> > > > Just remember the more you lie the more I and others will search
> > > > for the truth.
> > >
> > > LOL!
> > >
> > > Someone searching for the truth would exhibit some knowledge of
the
> > > subject, wouldn't be ignorant of all of the most distinguished
German
> > > historians of the subject (while being familiar with every wing
nut),
> > > and wouldn't continually get caught telling obvious lies.
>
> > Can you proof Walendy is not an historian Mathews supply an honest
proof
> > and trustworthy names.
>
> Where does he claim to be an historian?
>
> What history has he written?
>
> Be honest now, Knoll.
>
> --
> Philip Mathews
>
>
>
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:17 EST 2002
Article: 1290782 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Subject: Re: An Lying Shit Knoll
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I did have questions Mathews give me names who say he is not.

Kurt Knoll.
===========
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>
> > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
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> > >
> > > > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
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> > > > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > > news:<3c17b2e6_2@binaries.vphos.net>...
> > > > >
> > > > > > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in
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> > > > > > news:gsIR7.10278$Sj1.5771377@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > > > > > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:3c1734c6_1@binaries.vphos.net...
> > > > > > > > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in
> > > > > >  message
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > news:EoBR7.10250$Sj1.5590004@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > > > > > > > > "Werner Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > news:3C16D7F4.F99BCCC1@telus.net...
> > > > > > > > > > Philip Mathews wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in
> > message
> > > > > > > > > > > news:3c16a9ce_2@binaries.vphos.net...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you name a single German historian denied
> > > > > >  access to
> > > > > >  the
> > > > > >  evidence
> > > > > > > > > > > > > contained in the archives of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Germany or any other nation? Yes or no?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Nothing changes I know an older Canadian
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I'm not interested in your stupid stories.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > You should be interested in what he is saying
because he
> > > > > >  was
> > > > > >  in Baghdad
> > > > > > > > > > when you were semen in your fathers balls!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > He's an idiot.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Answer the question.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Can you name a single German historian denied
access
> > to
> > > > > >  the
> > > > > > > > > > > evidence contained in the archives of Germany or
any
> > > > > >  other
> > > > > >  nation? Yes
> > > > > >  or
> > > > > > > > > > > no?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Ask Udo Walendy a German writer and historian
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Walendy is not an historian. Stop lying. He's a
crackpot.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > No answer for the question I see!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > It is high time for people in Germany to send all
their
> > > > > >  lawmaker to
> > > > > > > > > > Israel so Saddam can take care of them.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Germans don't need advice from scum like you. Germans
> > > > > >  recoil in
> > > > > >  disgust from
> > > > > > > > > your type.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I know Walendy is not a Jew ?.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Well at least you know one thing.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Is this the reason why he does not know anything, arend
you
> > > > > >  using
> > > > > > > > your same dirty approach
> > > > > > > > on all the others if the are not Jewish or Jewish
> > supporters.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > He's not an historian, and thus citing him fails to
support
> > > > > >  your original
> > > > > > > claim.
> > > > >
> > > > > > You mean anyone who writes about the second world war must
be a
> > > > > > historian proofed by you.
> > > > >
> > > > > No, I mean what I said. No German historian who has written on
the
> > > > > Holocaust would countenance anything you say other than as the
> > ravings
> > > > > of an idiot.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > I know in your holohoax movies you write your own script.
You
> > > > > > want all the writers
> > > > > > who write about the holocaust to use your scrip to qualify.
> > > > >
> > > > > We're not talking about movies.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Now is a typical Jewish way to deceive the public.
> > > > >
> > > > > And your nonsense is a typical antisemite's venting of spleen.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Just remember the more you lie the more I and others will
search
> > > > > > for the truth.
> > > > >
> > > > > LOL!
> > > > >
> > > > > Someone searching for the truth would exhibit some knowledge
of
> > the
> > > > > subject, wouldn't be ignorant of all of the most distinguished
> > German
> > > > > historians of the subject (while being familiar with every
wing
> > nut),
> > > > > and wouldn't continually get caught telling obvious lies.
> > >
> > > > Can you proof Walendy is not an historian Mathews supply an
honest
> > proof
> > > > and trustworthy names.
> > >
> > > Where does he claim to be an historian?
> > >
> > > What history has he written?
> > >
> > > Be honest now, Knoll.
>
> > Were to you claim he is not do you have proof ?. Or does he have to
be
> > Jewish to qualify for you.
>
> You don't have any answers, do you Knoll!
>
> --
> Philip Mathews
>
>
>
>




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In Germany whole school classes are forced to few some of the Jewish
hate movies. Just in the
last two years there was a showing of the crimes the German Armies
committed. The Movie
was made wit a German grant to some Jewish boys from New York. It had to
stopped 3 times
because of the inaccuracies in its reporting. One scene did show
Russians and were portrayed as Germans.
Another accused the Germans of an Certain Crime in an Area that the
Germans never occupied.

As one Older German said he thinks it is not right his Kids were forced
to watch movies where the
purpose is to create hate against the Germans and their Parents.

For me it is an indication the Germans are forced to see this to get
Brainwashed. And they can
certainly expect more extortion from the Holohoax Industries again.

Kurt Knoll.

"Bond"  wrote in message
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> >> >>Well the Rothschilds, a Jewish Family, were the major banking
empire
> >> >>in europe at the end of WWI.  They were charged with supervising
the
> >> >>reparation payments Germans had to make to it's neighbors as part
of
> >> >>their defeat.  Germans had to pay back $12 billion and give away
85%
> >> >>of their countries natural resources to their neighbors.  Who
enforced
> >> >>this?  Well the Jews did vis-a-vis the Rothchilds.
> >> >
> >> >No, the forcing was done through a little document called the
> >> >Versailles Treaty; the Jews had nothing to do with it.
> >>
> >> But it was primarily the Rothschild owned banking enterprises and
> >> Rothschild funded businesses who enforced the Versailles treaty and
> >> benefited from the ongoing raiding of German wealth.  The Jews
drove
> >> the German economy into severe depression, hence why when Hitler
said
> >> "go out and kill a bunch of jews" nobody stood up and said "wait
> >> that's wrong".
> >
> >Interesting how you pick on the Rothschild's for being Jewish, rather
than
> >defending them for being German originally, or picking on them for
becoming
> >British.  Your point, I take it, is that the Germans would have been
happy
> >paying the reparations had they been overseen by, say the Benz
family.
>
> I am as much against the German heirarchy as I am against the Jewish
> heirarchy.  They are really very similar in their belief that they are
> a master race, so it's not like I'm picking a side here.  Both of
> these groups are pretty sick and twisted.  My main point, or more
> accurately, concern about the Jewish situation is that they have
> effectively censored history by calling everyone who criticizes Jewish
> policies an anti-semetic or neo-nazi.  To make matters worse, they
> freely distribute copies of Schindler's list to schools to indocrinate
> our young in a bogus version of events--i.e. they go out of their way
> to disseminate bullshit and have organized to prevent the truth about
> Jews from becoming known.
>
> As for your point about the Rothschild being German rather than
> Jewish.  Jews are members of a religion.  Germans are a member of a
> state.  Being a German does not necessarily preclude oneself from
> being a Jew.  That's like saying someone isn't a Christian because
> they are Canadian.




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:18 EST 2002
Article: 1290786 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Well then who did remove Palestine from the map since 1945.

Kurt Knoll.
===========
"Don"  wrote in message
news:wZ7U7.78377$Z2.1135729@nnrp1.uunet.ca...
> So?  You've never heard of a new country coming into fruition?
Rhodesia was
> always there.  Now we have Zimbabwe.  Half of Jordan was once
Palestine, not
> it's not.  You have no point except to whine about Jews.
>
> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> news:3c21030e_2@binaries.vphos.net...
> > My point Palestine was always there Israel did not exist as a state
> > till 1948.
> >
> > Kurt Knoll.
> > =========
> > "Don"  wrote in message
> > news:AC3U7.78290$Z2.1134113@nnrp1.uunet.ca...
> > > When I grew up, so was Rhodesia.  What's your point?
> > >
> > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > news:3c1ff960_2@binaries.vphos.net...
> > > > No surprise when I grew up Palestine was on my atlas tell what
did
> > > > happen and how come.
> > > >
> > > > Kurt Knoll.
> > > > ============
> > > > "Don"  wrote in message
> > > > news:QdOT7.77995$Z2.1128191@nnrp1.uunet.ca...
> > > > > Yes, but you said "your kind".  What exactly does that mean?
> > > > >
> > > > > By the way, last time I checked my Atlas, I couldn't find any
> > > > Palestine on
> > > > > the map.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > > > news:3c1fa588_2@binaries.vphos.net...
> > > > > > We were talking about the turmoil in Palestine not Canada.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kurt Knoll.
> > > > > > ==========
> > > > > > "Don"  wrote in message
> > > > > > news:TlLT7.77926$Z2.1127149@nnrp1.uunet.ca...
> > > > > > > I never created any turmoil.  I was born on Canada and
have
> > > > remained
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > North America all my life.  This must be your aids
talking.
> > Your
> > > > > > racist
> > > > > > > hatred is laughable as you are now accusing others (me) of
> > > > > > perpetuating
> > > > > > > turmoil whgich we were not part of.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:3c1f7612_1@binaries.vphos.net...
> > > > > > > > I did get my information from a Scotch friend of mine he
was
> > > > there
> > > > > > he
> > > > > > > > has seen the turmoil your kind has
> > > > > > > > created.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > He said the British were glad to be out of there it was
like
> > a
> > > > rats
> > > > > > > > nest.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Kurt Knoll.
> > > > > > > > =========
> > > > > > > > "Don"  wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:3YJT7.77910$Z2.1126173@nnrp1.uunet.ca...
> > > > > > > > > No doubt, you and your brother are experts at going
> > through
> > > > each
> > > > > > > > others
> > > > > > > > > "back door".
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in
message
> > > > > > > > > news:3c1f14d3_2@binaries.vphos.net...
> > > > > > > > > > The British were no bastards they knew exactly what
the
> > > > future
> > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > like it is here now.
> > > > > > > > > > All because you guys came in trough the back door.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Kurt Knoll.
> > > > > > > > > > ============
> > > > > > > > > > "Jon°"  wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > >
news:WICT7.5525$%D2.27342888@news-text.cableinet.net...
> > > > > > > > > > > "The bastard British forces in fact prevented
> > > > > > > > > > > many Jews from entering Israel when they needed
> > > > > > > > > > > it the most, i. e. at the height of pogrom at
> > > > > > > > > > > the hands of the Hun.  Not only that, but 'we'
> > > > > > > > > > > actually shipped ourselves them off to
> > > > > > > > > > > concentration camps in e. g. Cyprus.  Shame!"
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > ...........Above From Your Post..............
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Firstly I totally object to your calling our
forces
> > what
> > > > you
> > > > > > have.
> > > > > > > > > > That is a
> > > > > > > > > > > disgusting remark to have made and I can only
think
> > you
> > > > were a
> > > > > > > > little
> > > > > > > > > > "under
> > > > > > > > > > > the weather" at the time of posting such an
> > unbelievably
> > > > > > libellous
> > > > > > > > > > > allegation.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > The Jews who went to Palestine in vast numbers did
not
> > go
> > > > > > during
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > Nazi
> > > > > > > > > > > pogrom on the Jews. They went after WW2 in Europe
had
> > > > ended.
> > > > > > They
> > > > > > > > were
> > > > > > > > > > able
> > > > > > > > > > > to go because British, American and Russian forces
had
> > > > rescued
> > > > > > > > them
> > > > > > > > > > from the
> > > > > > > > > > > clutches of the Nazis. At least get you facts
correct,
> > > > perhaps
> > > > > > > > your
> > > > > > > > > > hatred
> > > > > > > > > > > for the British army confused you a little when
you
> > made
> > > > above
> > > > > > > > > > statement.
> > > > > > > > > > > How on Earth could these boat loads of civilians
have
> > > > crossed
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > Mediterranean at the height of the war and where
would
> > > > they
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > got
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > boats from.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > No they started to arrive in 1947 in any number,
the
> > > > reason
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > British army
> > > > > > > > > > > tried to stop them landing was because of orders
they
> > > > > > received,
> > > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > British government of the day, to do so. It had
> > nothing to
> > > > do
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > their
> > > > > > > > > > > legitimacy, which is rather a quaint and childish
way
> > to
> > > > > > describe
> > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > whole
> > > > > > > > > > > group of men who had fought the oppressors of the
Jews
> > for
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > previous half
> > > > > > > > > > > a decade. I hope you are now a little red faced at
> > calling
> > > > > > them
> > > > > > > > that,
> > > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > > deserve to be Michael.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > The British government at that time was the Labour
> > > > > > administration
> > > > > > > > > > which had
> > > > > > > > > > > been elected when the war ended. it was a good
> > government,
> > > > old
> > > > > > > > Labour
> > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > patriotic as well, nothing like the traitorous lot
> > that
> > > > have
> > > > > > too
> > > > > > > > much
> > > > > > > > > > power
> > > > > > > > > > > now. Clement Atlee was the right man for the job,
calm
> > > > > > methodical
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > honest, the foreign secretary was Earnest Bevin an
> > > > ex-docker
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > > Bristol.
> > > > > > > > > > > Some present day historians rate him as our best
> > foreign
> > > > > > secretary
> > > > > > > > > > within
> > > > > > > > > > > living memory. The name "Bevin Boys" came from
him,
> > which
> > > > was
> > > > > > > > applied
> > > > > > > > > > during
> > > > > > > > > > > the war when he was part of the war cabinet and he
> > sent
> > > > some
> > > > > > young
> > > > > > > > men
> > > > > > > > > > down
> > > > > > > > > > > the mines instead of into the forces that you so
> > wickedly
> > > > > > > > describe.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > This British government had a mandate to protect
> > > > Palestine,
> > > > > > they
> > > > > > > > > > considered
> > > > > > > > > > > that it was wrong for the Jews to be allowed to
> > converge
> > > > on
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > country in
> > > > > > > > > > > vast hordes until the matter had been examined in
> > great
> > > > > > detail.
> > > > > > > > They
> > > > > > > > > > did
> > > > > > > > > > > what they thought was the right thing to do, it
again
> > had
> > > > > > nothing
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > do with
> > > > > > > > > > > whether their mothers and fathers had been
married.
> > The
> > > > > > > > concentration
> > > > > > > > > > camps
> > > > > > > > > > > you speak of in Cyprus were living areas that had
been
> > put
> > > > > > > > together
> > > > > > > > > > for the
> > > > > > > > > > > Jews of Eastern Europe to live in whilst the
question
> > of
> > > > their
> > > > > > > > > > domicile was
> > > > > > > > > > > internationally discussed. I don't know if you are
> > Jewish
> > > > but
> > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > > your ungratefulness astounds me. Before you make
such
> > > > > > statements
> > > > > > > > again
> > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > would be better if you made sure you had some idea
of
> > the
> > > > > > facts.
> > > > > > > > > > Emotive
> > > > > > > > > > > attempts to brand a whole army of brave people,
who's
> > > > > > endeavours
> > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > made
> > > > > > > > > > > it possible for you to air such untruths in
freedom
> > here,
> > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > shameful.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > "Michael W. Lancaster" 
wrote
> > in
> > > > > > message
> > > > > > > > > > > news:3C1E755D.55921525@deadspam.com...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > "Jon°" wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > They did not swarm there in any numbers until
> > > > > > > > > > > > > after WW2.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > *****
> > > > > > > > > > > > At the end of the Great War, Jews made up a
> > > > > > > > > > > > fifth of the population of the area.  The
> > > > > > > > > > > > largest influx occurred in the 1930s
> > > > > > > > > > > > concomitantly with the rise of Hitler to power
> > > > > > > > > > > > in Germany.  At the point of proclamation of
> > > > > > > > > > > > the state of Israel, the Jews formed roughly
> > > > > > > > > > > > half the population of the area.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > They came by the boat load and up to a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > certain date, which I do not know, the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > British forces did their best to control
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the inflow.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > *****
> > > > > > > > > > > > The bastard British forces in fact prevented
> > > > > > > > > > > > many Jews from entering Israel when they needed
> > > > > > > > > > > > it the most, i. e. at the height of pogrom at
> > > > > > > > > > > > the hands of the Hun.  Not only that, but 'we'
> > > > > > > > > > > > actually shipped ourselves them off to
> > > > > > > > > > > > concentration camps in e. g. Cyprus.  Shame!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:18 EST 2002
Article: 1290796 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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There is nothing to be proud of here in Canada.
I came here with the highest education as a Precision Mechanic and tool
and dye making experience.
I worked in a television Factory and was in charge of more than 80
people working under me
as well building new production equipment. Was all my live a workaholic
never could set still for
5 minutes while others watched  Television. Did help my old man at the
age of 6 developing pictures
and was free lancing at the age of 15. When Personal  became available
her like the Radio Shack
model 1 I got interested in it and grew into computing in a full way.
Wrote my own Business
Applications and also  for others.

But as I was Born a German Fucking DP I was treated her on this NG and
in Canada the most
and dirtiest way. This is why I am what I am.

Kurt Knoll at http://www2.yellowhead16.net/~kknoll/midway.html
============
"Duncan (Dhu) Campbell on Babayaga.neotext.ca" 
wrote in message news:%CeU7.32104$%Q1.5863112@news1.telusplanet.net...
> The United Nations.  With the blessings of the security council.  And,
> Kurt, just answer me one question: do you think the DNA tests will
> show that there is more German in the Israelis than Jewish in the
> Germans?
>
> Why do you think they are so damn good at war and business and
industry?
> I'll tell you, Kurt.
>
> Its because they are Germans.  Like von Clauswitz and von Moltke.
>
> You are an idiot.  What you scorn in youself is what makes Germans
> so, well, German.  Get a grip, its something to be proud of.
>
> Dhu
>
> In article <3c217282_2@binaries.vphos.net>,
> "Kurt Knoll"  writes:
> > Well then who did remove Palestine from the map since 1945.
> >
> > Kurt Knoll.
> > ===========
> > "Don"  wrote in message
> > news:wZ7U7.78377$Z2.1135729@nnrp1.uunet.ca...
> >> So?  You've never heard of a new country coming into fruition?
> > Rhodesia was
> >> always there.  Now we have Zimbabwe.  Half of Jordan was once
> > Palestine, not
> >> it's not.  You have no point except to whine about Jews.
> >>
> >> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> >> news:3c21030e_2@binaries.vphos.net...
> >> > My point Palestine was always there Israel did not exist as a
state
> >> > till 1948.
> >> >
> >> > Kurt Knoll.
> >> > =========
> >> > "Don"  wrote in message
> >> > news:AC3U7.78290$Z2.1134113@nnrp1.uunet.ca...
> >> > > When I grew up, so was Rhodesia.  What's your point?
> >> > >
> >> > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> >> > > news:3c1ff960_2@binaries.vphos.net...
> >> > > > No surprise when I grew up Palestine was on my atlas tell
what
> > did
> >> > > > happen and how come.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Kurt Knoll.
> >> > > > ============
> >> > > > "Don"  wrote in message
> >> > > > news:QdOT7.77995$Z2.1128191@nnrp1.uunet.ca...
> >> > > > > Yes, but you said "your kind".  What exactly does that
mean?
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > By the way, last time I checked my Atlas, I couldn't find
any
> >> > > > Palestine on
> >> > > > > the map.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> >> > > > > news:3c1fa588_2@binaries.vphos.net...
> >> > > > > > We were talking about the turmoil in Palestine not
Canada.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Kurt Knoll.
> >> > > > > > ==========
> >> > > > > > "Don"  wrote in message
> >> > > > > > news:TlLT7.77926$Z2.1127149@nnrp1.uunet.ca...
> >> > > > > > > I never created any turmoil.  I was born on Canada and
> > have
> >> > > > remained
> >> > > > > > in
> >> > > > > > > North America all my life.  This must be your aids
> > talking.
> >> > Your
> >> > > > > > racist
> >> > > > > > > hatred is laughable as you are now accusing others (me)
of
> >> > > > > > perpetuating
> >> > > > > > > turmoil whgich we were not part of.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> >> > > > > > > news:3c1f7612_1@binaries.vphos.net...
> >> > > > > > > > I did get my information from a Scotch friend of mine
he
> > was
> >> > > > there
> >> > > > > > he
> >> > > > > > > > has seen the turmoil your kind has
> >> > > > > > > > created.
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > He said the British were glad to be out of there it
was
> > like
> >> > a
> >> > > > rats
> >> > > > > > > > nest.
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > Kurt Knoll.
> >> > > > > > > > =========
> >> > > > > > > > "Don"  wrote in message
> >> > > > > > > > news:3YJT7.77910$Z2.1126173@nnrp1.uunet.ca...
> >> > > > > > > > > No doubt, you and your brother are experts at going
> >> > through
> >> > > > each
> >> > > > > > > > others
> >> > > > > > > > > "back door".
> >> > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in
> > message
> >> > > > > > > > > news:3c1f14d3_2@binaries.vphos.net...
> >> > > > > > > > > > The British were no bastards they knew exactly
what
> > the
> >> > > > future
> >> > > > > > would
> >> > > > > > > > be
> >> > > > > > > > > > like it is here now.
> >> > > > > > > > > > All because you guys came in trough the back
door.
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > Kurt Knoll.
> >> > > > > > > > > > ============
> >> > > > > > > > > > "Jon°"  wrote in message
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> > news:WICT7.5525$%D2.27342888@news-text.cableinet.net...
> >> > > > > > > > > > > "The bastard British forces in fact prevented
> >> > > > > > > > > > > many Jews from entering Israel when they needed
> >> > > > > > > > > > > it the most, i. e. at the height of pogrom at
> >> > > > > > > > > > > the hands of the Hun.  Not only that, but 'we'
> >> > > > > > > > > > > actually shipped ourselves them off to
> >> > > > > > > > > > > concentration camps in e. g. Cyprus.  Shame!"
> >> > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > ...........Above From Your Post..............
> >> > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > Firstly I totally object to your calling our
> > forces
> >> > what
> >> > > > you
> >> > > > > > have.
> >> > > > > > > > > > That is a
> >> > > > > > > > > > > disgusting remark to have made and I can only
> > think
> >> > you
> >> > > > were a
> >> > > > > > > > little
> >> > > > > > > > > > "under
> >> > > > > > > > > > > the weather" at the time of posting such an
> >> > unbelievably
> >> > > > > > libellous
> >> > > > > > > > > > > allegation.
> >> > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > The Jews who went to Palestine in vast numbers
did
> > not
> >> > go
> >> > > > > > during
> >> > > > > > > > the
> >> > > > > > > > > > Nazi
> >> > > > > > > > > > > pogrom on the Jews. They went after WW2 in
Europe
> > had
> >> > > > ended.
> >> > > > > > They
> >> > > > > > > > were
> >> > > > > > > > > > able
> >> > > > > > > > > > > to go because British, American and Russian
forces
> > had
> >> > > > rescued
> >> > > > > > > > them
> >> > > > > > > > > > from the
> >> > > > > > > > > > > clutches of the Nazis. At least get you facts
> > correct,
> >> > > > perhaps
> >> > > > > > > > your
> >> > > > > > > > > > hatred
> >> > > > > > > > > > > for the British army confused you a little when
> > you
> >> > made
> >> > > > above
> >> > > > > > > > > > statement.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > How on Earth could these boat loads of
civilians
> > have
> >> > > > crossed
> >> > > > > > the
> >> > > > > > > > > > > Mediterranean at the height of the war and
where
> > would
> >> > > > they
> >> > > > > > have
> >> > > > > > > > got
> >> > > > > > > > > > the
> >> > > > > > > > > > > boats from.
> >> > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > No they started to arrive in 1947 in any
number,
> > the
> >> > > > reason
> >> > > > > > the
> >> > > > > > > > > > British army
> >> > > > > > > > > > > tried to stop them landing was because of
orders
> > they
> >> > > > > > received,
> >> > > > > > > > from
> >> > > > > > > > > > the
> >> > > > > > > > > > > British government of the day, to do so. It had
> >> > nothing to
> >> > > > do
> >> > > > > > with
> >> > > > > > > > > > their
> >> > > > > > > > > > > legitimacy, which is rather a quaint and
childish
> > way
> >> > to
> >> > > > > > describe
> >> > > > > > > > a
> >> > > > > > > > > > whole
> >> > > > > > > > > > > group of men who had fought the oppressors of
the
> > Jews
> >> > for
> >> > > > the
> >> > > > > > > > > > previous half
> >> > > > > > > > > > > a decade. I hope you are now a little red faced
at
> >> > calling
> >> > > > > > them
> >> > > > > > > > that,
> >> > > > > > > > > > you
> >> > > > > > > > > > > deserve to be Michael.
> >> > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > The British government at that time was the
Labour
> >> > > > > > administration
> >> > > > > > > > > > which had
> >> > > > > > > > > > > been elected when the war ended. it was a good
> >> > government,
> >> > > > old
> >> > > > > > > > Labour
> >> > > > > > > > > > and
> >> > > > > > > > > > > patriotic as well, nothing like the traitorous
lot
> >> > that
> >> > > > have
> >> > > > > > too
> >> > > > > > > > much
> >> > > > > > > > > > power
> >> > > > > > > > > > > now. Clement Atlee was the right man for the
job,
> > calm
> >> > > > > > methodical
> >> > > > > > > > and
> >> > > > > > > > > > > honest, the foreign secretary was Earnest Bevin
an
> >> > > > ex-docker
> >> > > > > > from
> >> > > > > > > > > > Bristol.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > Some present day historians rate him as our
best
> >> > foreign
> >> > > > > > secretary
> >> > > > > > > > > > within
> >> > > > > > > > > > > living memory. The name "Bevin Boys" came from
> > him,
> >> > which
> >> > > > was
> >> > > > > > > > applied
> >> > > > > > > > > > during
> >> > > > > > > > > > > the war when he was part of the war cabinet and
he
> >> > sent
> >> > > > some
> >> > > > > > young
> >> > > > > > > > men
> >> > > > > > > > > > down
> >> > > > > > > > > > > the mines instead of into the forces that you
so
> >> > wickedly
> >> > > > > > > > describe.
> >> > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > This British government had a mandate to
protect
> >> > > > Palestine,
> >> > > > > > they
> >> > > > > > > > > > considered
> >> > > > > > > > > > > that it was wrong for the Jews to be allowed to
> >> > converge
> >> > > > on
> >> > > > > > that
> >> > > > > > > > > > country in
> >> > > > > > > > > > > vast hordes until the matter had been examined
in
> >> > great
> >> > > > > > detail.
> >> > > > > > > > They
> >> > > > > > > > > > did
> >> > > > > > > > > > > what they thought was the right thing to do, it
> > again
> >> > had
> >> > > > > > nothing
> >> > > > > > > > to
> >> > > > > > > > > > do with
> >> > > > > > > > > > > whether their mothers and fathers had been
> > married.
> >> > The
> >> > > > > > > > concentration
> >> > > > > > > > > > camps
> >> > > > > > > > > > > you speak of in Cyprus were living areas that
had
> > been
> >> > put
> >> > > > > > > > together
> >> > > > > > > > > > for the
> >> > > > > > > > > > > Jews of Eastern Europe to live in whilst the
> > question
> >> > of
> >> > > > their
> >> > > > > > > > > > domicile was
> >> > > > > > > > > > > internationally discussed. I don't know if you
are
> >> > Jewish
> >> > > > but
> >> > > > > > if
> >> > > > > > > > you
> >> > > > > > > > > > are
> >> > > > > > > > > > > your ungratefulness astounds me. Before you
make
> > such
> >> > > > > > statements
> >> > > > > > > > again
> >> > > > > > > > > > it
> >> > > > > > > > > > > would be better if you made sure you had some
idea
> > of
> >> > the
> >> > > > > > facts.
> >> > > > > > > > > > Emotive
> >> > > > > > > > > > > attempts to brand a whole army of brave people,
> > who's
> >> > > > > > endeavours
> >> > > > > > > > have
> >> > > > > > > > > > made
> >> > > > > > > > > > > it possible for you to air such untruths in
> > freedom
> >> > here,
> >> > > > are
> >> > > > > > > > > > shameful.
> >> > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > "Michael W. Lancaster" 
> > wrote
> >> > in
> >> > > > > > message
> >> > > > > > > > > > > news:3C1E755D.55921525@deadspam.com...
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > "Jon°" wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > They did not swarm there in any numbers
until
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > after WW2.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > *****
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > At the end of the Great War, Jews made up a
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > fifth of the population of the area.  The
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > largest influx occurred in the 1930s
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > concomitantly with the rise of Hitler to
power
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > in Germany.  At the point of proclamation of
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > the state of Israel, the Jews formed roughly
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > half the population of the area.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > They came by the boat load and up to a
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > certain date, which I do not know, the
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > British forces did their best to control
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > the inflow.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > *****
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > The bastard British forces in fact prevented
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > many Jews from entering Israel when they
needed
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > it the most, i. e. at the height of pogrom at
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > the hands of the Hun.  Not only that, but
'we'
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > actually shipped ourselves them off to
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > concentration camps in e. g. Cyprus.  Shame!
> >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > Michael
> >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:18 EST 2002
Article: 1290800 of alt.revisionism
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Hitler build the Autobahn this made him a Nazi America calls it freeway
they are not nazi.

In Ariel 1945 I was a little bit of 12 years and American Soldier
pointed his Rifle at me
and poked his bayonet in my belly and started screaming Nazi that means
NSDAP
if I have known what he meant I would have said no I am a republican.

But I wonder who made him hate Germans where I was there was not
Concentration Camp
only further to the east I found out later. What kind of hate propaganda
did the Americans use
before the send their men over seas.

Kurt Knoll.
=============
"Richard Phillips"  wrote in message
news:3C217AF8.70DF4359@earthlink.net...
>
>
> Charles Don Hall wrote:
>
> > Richard Phillips  wrote in
> > news:3C2138DF.48279158@earthlink.net:
> >
> > >
> > > I believe that FDR WAS determined to get America into the European
war
> > > and I believe that this determination aruse from four sources:
> > >
> > > (1) The severe recession of 1937 may have convinced him that ONLY
> > > involvement in a major war was ever going to solve America's
> > > unemployment problem - as, indeed, it did.
> > >
> > > (2) A severe personal antipathy to Hitler that probably had much
to do
> > > with the fact that, in dealing with mass unemployment, Hitler had
> > > succeeded where he (FDR) had failed. FDR would have been less than
> > > human if that had not stuck in his craw.
> >
> > Can we think of any other things that Hitler did, that might have
caused
> > people to dislike him?
>
> ==============================================
> Phillips
>
> How Hitler chose to run Germany was the business of Germany and of no
one
> else. Like it or don't like it, his accession to power was completely
legal,
> and he brought benefits to the German people  that  Americans would
dearly
> love to have today. In short, the Nazis gave a damn for the ordinary
people
> of their country, something the ruling elitues of our country have
long
> since ceased to do. They don't give a damn for anyone other than their
> precious minorities and their big-bucks campaign contributors.
>
> =========================================
>
> >
> >
> > IMHO, Hitler was acting like a big jerk even in 1937. (And he got
worse
> > later.)
> >
> > --
> > ======================================
> > Charles Don Hall, Licensed Philosopher
> > ======================================
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:18 EST 2002
Article: 1290839 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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The World has more Neo Jews than Neo Nazi.

By definiton Neo Nazi Hate Jews, Neo Jews Hate Nazis.


Kurt Knoll.
==========
"Michael Ragland"  wrote in message
news:35a8d44b.0112192250.6859c5fc@posting.google.com...
> Herr Knoll:
>
> Here is some info on the movie.
>
> MR
>
>
>
>
>
> Jewish lecturer marks holiday
> Andrew Donohue   -   Staff Reporter         With the setting of the
> Wednesday sun came Yom HaShoah, Holocaust Remembrance Day.
> And as the darkness brought the day of remembrance, it also carried
> with it an event that University organizations have been planning for
> more than a year: a lecture by author, Neo-Nazi infiltrator and son of
> Holocaust survivors, Yaron Svoray.
> As Svoray stood at his wooden podium in the Coffman Union Theater and
> peered out into the captivated audience, he told a story of his
> youthful introduction to the Holocaust.
> "On my fifth birthday I turned to my father and asked him if I could
> get numbers tatooed on my arm like everybody else," Svoray said.
> During his lecture, Svoray combined emotion and some humor to convey
> his personal story of an Israeli Jew turned undercover Nazi.
> Disguising himself as Ron Furey, editor in chief of "The Right Way," a
> fictional right-wing American magazine, Svoray submerged himself in
> the underworld of German Neo-Nazism in order to flush out the wave of
> Neo-Nazism sweeping Europe.
> Under his alias, Svoray soon dug himself deeper into the Nazi world.
> He was soon meeting with some of the most influential Nazis from
> across the globe, eventually rubbing elbows with underground Nazis who
> were bankers, school teachers, policemen and mayors of small cities.
> Svoray told stories of secret meetings with the five most influential
> Nazis in Germany, sitting in the room as an Israeli Jew, several times
> close to being uncovered.
> "I went to bed thinking every night was going to be my last," he said.
> "I thought I would be found out and end up with a bullet in my head."
> Svoray's nine-and-a-half-month struggle ended on April 20, 1995, Adolf
> Hitler's birthday. He turned in 500 pages of notes and 700 photographs
> to the U.S. Congress, but nothing was ever done to punish the
> Neo-Nazis.
> "We can't be silent," Svoray said. "Or history will repeat itself."
> "We are seriously looking at these issues, the fact that Neo-Nazism
> still exists and we cannot ignore it," said Rabbi Sharon Stiefel of
> the Hillel Jewish Student Center.
> Svoray soon turned his story into a book, "In Hitler's Shadow." His
> book then became an HBO movie, "The Infiltrator."
> Shannon Elkins, a senior majoring in history, was drawn to the lecture
> because she recently finished Svoray's book.
> "It was very interesting," she said. "But disturbing at times.
> Yom HaShoah was proclaimed an official holiday by the Knesset, the
> Israeli parliament, on April 12, 1951. The holiday was deemed "the
> Holocaust and Ghetto Uprising Remembrance Day -- a day of perpetual
> remembrance for the House of Israel."
> "The event has had such a wide spectrum of involvement," said Stiefel.
> "The co-sponsorship shows great support for both the University and
> Jewish communities."
> The lecture was sponsored by Coffman Union's Forum Committee, Hillel,
> the Residence Hall Association, the University Center for Holocaust
> and Genocide Studies, the Jewish Community Relations Council of
> Minnesota and the Dakotas, and the American Jewish Committee.
> Along with Svoray's presentation, Hillel will commemorate the victims
> of the Holocaust with its annual Holocaust Remembrance Day Program.
> Observers can take part in a public candle light memorial service at
> noon today on the steps of Northrop Auditorium. Yom HaShoah ends at
> sunset.
> In addition to poetry reading and songs, Holocaust survivor Jewel
> Zantzer will share his personal tales of survival.
>
>
> ____________________________________________________
>
> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
news:<3c20db80_2@binaries.vphos.net>...
> > You live in a fictional world I have not seen the Movie but I sure
like
> > to know where you definition
> > of Neo Nazi is coming from. As fore the movie I have not seen is
this
> > one of Spielberg's protections
> > of intentional creating Propaganda for the Jews.
> >
> > You movie is just as realistic as the one I have seen about the
Roaring
> > 20 ties from New York
> > where they did show Nazis and German SS Officers at a time were
there
> > was not even
> > a NSDAP Party in Power in Germany .
> >
> > As for your Mentality about Nazi your more than 55 Years of
Brainwashing
> > and Creating Hate shows.
> >
> > How much longer will you and your kind use this kind of Hate
Mongering
> > for you Holohoax
> > extortion industry.
> >
> > Kurt Knoll.
> > =========
> >
> > Kurt Knoll.
> > ========
> > "Michael Ragland"  wrote in message
> > news:2971-3C206E10-1@storefull-625.iap.bryant.webtv.net...
> >
> > Herr Knoll:
> >
> > Your comment to astron's mention of Dr. Helen Fein, "How long did it
> > last till the Orgasm", reminded me of a movie I saw on HBO years ago
> > about the rising neo_Nazi movement. After describing a scene in the
> > movie I was hoping if you could tell me if it represented you.
> >
> > Well, in the movie a meeting is arranged for the neo_Nazis to watch
a
> > film. The film is of a pretty young Jewess who has been kidnapped,
> > raped, and finally has her throat cut with a broken glass bottle.
> >
> > Anyway, several neo-Nazis are sitting in chairs about to watch the
> > fillm. The "organizer" of the event hands out tissues to those
coming in
> > so they will have something to wipe their semen up with afterwards.
> >
> > As the young Jewess is being raped and murdered an older man is
shown
> > jerking in his seat with his head kind of bopping up and down.
> >
> > My question to you is would you willingly participate in such an
event
> > and obtain gratification out of it? Whatever your answer (assuming
you
> > bother to respond) explain your reasons for it.
> >
> > MR
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > alt.revisionism Date: Wed, Dec 19, 2001, 1:20am (EST-3) From:
> >
> > kknoll@yellowhead16.net (Kurt Knoll)
> >
> > How long did it last till the Orgasm.
> > Kurt Knoll.
> > =========
> > "astron"  wrote in message
> > news:3C2048FD.373D52B2@bigpond.com.au...
> > Refer to Dr Helen Fein ( an American Jew) . She has plenty of
experience
> > with Turkey and with David Irving , the anti-Semite author .
> > She agrees with me .




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:19 EST 2002
Article: 1292657 of alt.revisionism
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I do not know if the Holocaust is a domain only the Jews are entitled to
it but they do propagandize
it as if was their Monopoly.
In a war as world war II the were no angels crimes have been committed
on all sites. But it is the
Americans and Jews who exert most of the pressure against anybody who
ask too many Question.

The Jews are the ones that go overboard in denying people the right in
various countries to raise question.
The Laws the have instituted in Germany Italy Canada and other Countries
are very Ambiguous.

In Germany the Law state who asks questions about the Holocaust and
Criticizes the Amount of Jewish
causalities is a Holocaust denier. This law in effect does forbid anyone
asking questions.

You can criticize the Bible what the Russians  or British did but you
can not ask questions about the
truthfulness of the Holocaust You are Forced to Believe.

This is very unprecedented in the History of Mankind. Then you have a
certain amount pressure imposed
on anybody who wants to do some Research on the matter. And it seems
that the Jewish lobby
will decide who I qualified or not. Does that do not conform to the
Jewish demand will be disqualified
by means of taking them to court and then dragging them thru the mud.

Kurt Knoll.
==========
"Michael Ragland"  wrote in message
news:35a8d44b.0112201424.615b7b3b@posting.google.com...
> Herr Knoll:
>
> You are correct. These two groups....Neo Nazi and Neo Jew are
> basically diametrically opposed to each other. And yes, by definition
> they don't like one another. I don't know about the world having more
> Neo Jews than Neo Nazis. I would dispute that. The entire Jewish
> population on earth is incredibly tiny compared to most other ethnic
> groups, including whites. The U.S. has about 6,000,000 in a country
> with well over 200 million people in it. Even accounting for variation
> here the Jew in America is a tiny numerical minority. In Israel there
> are slightly more Jews than in America. In Germany, even accepting the
> fact Jews may be increasing somewhat because of the fall of the former
> Soviet Union, there are currently only about 71,000 in a country with
> over 20,000,000 people. Again, I ask, what signifigant influence do
> Jews living in Germany have on effecting German government policies? I
> would think negligible to non-existent.
>     In the U.S., despite their being a numerical minority, many Jews
> do occupy important positions in Hollywood, the media, medicine, and
> government. But this does not mean the Jews control the U.S.
> government. I recently read Jews comprise 10% of Congress...that
> leaves 90% left non-Jewish.
>     What policies, both domestic and foreign, would you like to see
> U.S. President Bush take?
>
> MR
> _______________________________________________________
>
> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
news:<3c21fb69_1@binaries.vphos.net>...
> > The World has more Neo Jews than Neo Nazi.
> >
> > By definiton Neo Nazi Hate Jews, Neo Jews Hate Nazis.
> >
> >
> > Kurt Knoll.
> > ==========
> > "Michael Ragland"  wrote in message
> > news:35a8d44b.0112192250.6859c5fc@posting.google.com...
> > > Herr Knoll:
> > >
> > > Here is some info on the movie.
> > >
> > > MR
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Jewish lecturer marks holiday
> > > Andrew Donohue   -   Staff Reporter         With the setting of
the
> > > Wednesday sun came Yom HaShoah, Holocaust Remembrance Day.
> > > And as the darkness brought the day of remembrance, it also
carried
> > > with it an event that University organizations have been planning
for
> > > more than a year: a lecture by author, Neo-Nazi infiltrator and
son of
> > > Holocaust survivors, Yaron Svoray.
> > > As Svoray stood at his wooden podium in the Coffman Union Theater
and
> > > peered out into the captivated audience, he told a story of his
> > > youthful introduction to the Holocaust.
> > > "On my fifth birthday I turned to my father and asked him if I
could
> > > get numbers tatooed on my arm like everybody else," Svoray said.
> > > During his lecture, Svoray combined emotion and some humor to
convey
> > > his personal story of an Israeli Jew turned undercover Nazi.
> > > Disguising himself as Ron Furey, editor in chief of "The Right
Way," a
> > > fictional right-wing American magazine, Svoray submerged himself
in
> > > the underworld of German Neo-Nazism in order to flush out the wave
of
> > > Neo-Nazism sweeping Europe.
> > > Under his alias, Svoray soon dug himself deeper into the Nazi
world.
> > > He was soon meeting with some of the most influential Nazis from
> > > across the globe, eventually rubbing elbows with underground Nazis
who
> > > were bankers, school teachers, policemen and mayors of small
cities.
> > > Svoray told stories of secret meetings with the five most
influential
> > > Nazis in Germany, sitting in the room as an Israeli Jew, several
times
> > > close to being uncovered.
> > > "I went to bed thinking every night was going to be my last," he
said.
> > > "I thought I would be found out and end up with a bullet in my
head."
> > > Svoray's nine-and-a-half-month struggle ended on April 20, 1995,
Adolf
> > > Hitler's birthday. He turned in 500 pages of notes and 700
photographs
> > > to the U.S. Congress, but nothing was ever done to punish the
> > > Neo-Nazis.
> > > "We can't be silent," Svoray said. "Or history will repeat
itself."
> > > "We are seriously looking at these issues, the fact that
Neo-Nazism
> > > still exists and we cannot ignore it," said Rabbi Sharon Stiefel
of
> > > the Hillel Jewish Student Center.
> > > Svoray soon turned his story into a book, "In Hitler's Shadow."
His
> > > book then became an HBO movie, "The Infiltrator."
> > > Shannon Elkins, a senior majoring in history, was drawn to the
lecture
> > > because she recently finished Svoray's book.
> > > "It was very interesting," she said. "But disturbing at times.
> > > Yom HaShoah was proclaimed an official holiday by the Knesset, the
> > > Israeli parliament, on April 12, 1951. The holiday was deemed "the
> > > Holocaust and Ghetto Uprising Remembrance Day -- a day of
perpetual
> > > remembrance for the House of Israel."
> > > "The event has had such a wide spectrum of involvement," said
Stiefel.
> > > "The co-sponsorship shows great support for both the University
and
> > > Jewish communities."
> > > The lecture was sponsored by Coffman Union's Forum Committee,
Hillel,
> > > the Residence Hall Association, the University Center for
Holocaust
> > > and Genocide Studies, the Jewish Community Relations Council of
> > > Minnesota and the Dakotas, and the American Jewish Committee.
> > > Along with Svoray's presentation, Hillel will commemorate the
victims
> > > of the Holocaust with its annual Holocaust Remembrance Day
Program.
> > > Observers can take part in a public candle light memorial service
at
> > > noon today on the steps of Northrop Auditorium. Yom HaShoah ends
at
> > > sunset.
> > > In addition to poetry reading and songs, Holocaust survivor Jewel
> > > Zantzer will share his personal tales of survival.
> > >
> > >
> > > ____________________________________________________
> > >
> > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> >  news:<3c20db80_2@binaries.vphos.net>...
> > > > You live in a fictional world I have not seen the Movie but I
sure
> >  like
> > > > to know where you definition
> > > > of Neo Nazi is coming from. As fore the movie I have not seen is
> >  this
> > > > one of Spielberg's protections
> > > > of intentional creating Propaganda for the Jews.
> > > >
> > > > You movie is just as realistic as the one I have seen about the
> >  Roaring
> > > > 20 ties from New York
> > > > where they did show Nazis and German SS Officers at a time were
> >  there
> > > > was not even
> > > > a NSDAP Party in Power in Germany .
> > > >
> > > > As for your Mentality about Nazi your more than 55 Years of
> >  Brainwashing
> > > > and Creating Hate shows.
> > > >
> > > > How much longer will you and your kind use this kind of Hate
> >  Mongering
> > > > for you Holohoax
> > > > extortion industry.
> > > >
> > > > Kurt Knoll.
> > > > =========
> > > >
> > > > Kurt Knoll.
> > > > ========
> > > > "Michael Ragland"  wrote in message
> > > > news:2971-3C206E10-1@storefull-625.iap.bryant.webtv.net...
> > > >
> > > > Herr Knoll:
> > > >
> > > > Your comment to astron's mention of Dr. Helen Fein, "How long
did it
> > > > last till the Orgasm", reminded me of a movie I saw on HBO years
ago
> > > > about the rising neo_Nazi movement. After describing a scene in
the
> > > > movie I was hoping if you could tell me if it represented you.
> > > >
> > > > Well, in the movie a meeting is arranged for the neo_Nazis to
watch
> >  a
> > > > film. The film is of a pretty young Jewess who has been
kidnapped,
> > > > raped, and finally has her throat cut with a broken glass
bottle.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, several neo-Nazis are sitting in chairs about to watch
the
> > > > fillm. The "organizer" of the event hands out tissues to those
> >  coming in
> > > > so they will have something to wipe their semen up with
afterwards.
> > > >
> > > > As the young Jewess is being raped and murdered an older man is
> >  shown
> > > > jerking in his seat with his head kind of bopping up and down.
> > > >
> > > > My question to you is would you willingly participate in such an
> >  event
> > > > and obtain gratification out of it? Whatever your answer
(assuming
> >  you
> > > > bother to respond) explain your reasons for it.
> > > >
> > > > MR
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > alt.revisionism Date: Wed, Dec 19, 2001, 1:20am (EST-3) From:
> > > >
> > > > kknoll@yellowhead16.net (Kurt Knoll)
> > > >
> > > > How long did it last till the Orgasm.
> > > > Kurt Knoll.
> > > > =========
> > > > "astron"  wrote in message
> > > > news:3C2048FD.373D52B2@bigpond.com.au...
> > > > Refer to Dr Helen Fein ( an American Jew) . She has plenty of
> >  experience
> > > > with Turkey and with David Irving , the anti-Semite author .
> > > > She agrees with me .




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:19 EST 2002
Article: 1292718 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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There you see the problem that haunts you is of your own making.
Evidently you guys don't
know when you reached the bottom line. And jet you are still always on
the search to haunt
others for more money it will definitely haunt you.

Kurt Knoll.
==========
"WolfWolf"  wrote in message
news:9vu86a$snv$1@suaar1ab.prod.compuserve.com...
> PRESS RELEASE
>
> 8 November 2001
>
> TOPIC: COMMEMORATION OF "KRISTALLNACHT".
> ANTI-SEMITISM IS DIFFUSED AND TOLERATED IN GREECE.
>
> November 9, the anniversary of the "Kristallnacht" pogrom in Germany
> (9/11/1938) has been designated as an international day against
racism. On
> the occasion of tomorrow's 63rd commemoration of this event, the
> collaborating organizations Greek Helsinki Monitor (GHM) and Minority
Rights
> Group-Greece (MRG-G) cite an outbreak of anti-Semitism in Greece
exceeding
> even that of last year. Thus, anti-Semitism seems diffused throughout,
and
> tolerated by, Greek society.
>
> This year's most characteristic example was the widespread espousal as
truth
> of the preposterous rumor that "4000 Jews had been warned and did not
go to
> their offices on September 11th, the day of the terror attack in New
York."
> 42% of Greeks subscribe to the rumor, as opposed to 30% who do not.1
This
> rumor was spread as "news" by the media owned by the ultra-rightwing
MP
> Yorgos Karatzaferis, as well as by many other print and broadcast
media2 -
> even by the "Informational Bulletin" of the Technical Chamber of
Greece
> (8/10). It was propagated, directly or indirectly, by at least one
> politician from each of the three major parties. While no
condemnations of
> the incident were known to have been made by the government, political
> parties, or journalists' unions.
>
> This example shows how anti-Semitic (and other racist) views are
widely
> tolerated if not accepted in Greece. This also explains the fact that
101
> New Democracy (ND) (Euro-)parliamentarians condemned with individual
> statements (in the October pages of "Eleftheri Ora") the suspension of
> broadcasting of the TV station "Teletora," owned by Yorgos
Michalopoulos,
> another ultra-rightwing politician and journalist with anti-Semitic
and
> racist views corresponding to those of Karatzaferis. Some politicians
> protested in the name of media freedom and polyphony. Others affixed
> laudatory attributes to the station, such as "national," "objective,"
> "serious," "authoritative," "free voice," "fighter, forum for
democracy,"
> etc. Meanwhile, everyone has read and knows that, in 2000, "Teletora"
sold
> its frequency for big money to the new station "Polis" - where
Michalopoulos
> has a weekly program - and, this year, decided to illegally broadcast
on the
> VHF 3 frequency exclusively reserved for armed forces use. This is the
> reason that the E.E.T.T. (National Commission for Telecommunications
and
> Postal Services) suspended the station's operation, along with a host
of
> others for which the N.D. (Euro-)parliamentarians did not demonstrate
> comparable "sensitivity."
>
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:19 EST 2002
Article: 1292729 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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In case you don't know it anyone who is not 100 % convinced is a
Holohoax Denier.

The Bible is full of mistakes but you guys are perfect. What is your
reason for intimidating
and Black Mailing anyone who critizeices you ?. If it is not Money what
else is more important to you.

Kurt Knoll.
=======
"Duncan (Dhu) Campbell on Babayaga.neotext.ca" 
wrote in message news:VhAU7.32941$m54.7044908@news0.telusplanet.net...
> In my most humble opinion, Holocaust deniers belong in the ranks
> of the Flat Earthers.  Belief in a flat Earth is not criminal but
> it is evidence of some mental dysfunction.  People posing no physical
> threat to others should retain their Liberty regardless of how
> Kooky their views are.  Moreover, it is, in my opinion, evidence
> of real malice in those who would criminalize such 'functional
crazies'
> crazies.
>
> We all got problems.  Take the moat from your own eye first.
>
> Dhu
>
> In article <3c22b68f_1@binaries.vphos.net>,
> "Kurt Knoll"  writes:
> > There you see the problem that haunts you is of your own making.
> > Evidently you guys don't
> > know when you reached the bottom line. And jet you are still always
on
> > the search to haunt
> > others for more money it will definitely haunt you.
> >
> > Kurt Knoll.
> > ==========
> > "WolfWolf"  wrote in message
> > news:9vu86a$snv$1@suaar1ab.prod.compuserve.com...
> >> PRESS RELEASE
> >>
> >> 8 November 2001
> >>
> >> TOPIC: COMMEMORATION OF "KRISTALLNACHT".
> >> ANTI-SEMITISM IS DIFFUSED AND TOLERATED IN GREECE.
> >>
> >> November 9, the anniversary of the "Kristallnacht" pogrom in
Germany
> >> (9/11/1938) has been designated as an international day against
> > racism. On
> >> the occasion of tomorrow's 63rd commemoration of this event, the
> >> collaborating organizations Greek Helsinki Monitor (GHM) and
Minority
> > Rights
> >> Group-Greece (MRG-G) cite an outbreak of anti-Semitism in Greece
> > exceeding
> >> even that of last year. Thus, anti-Semitism seems diffused
throughout,
> > and
> >> tolerated by, Greek society.
> >>
> >> This year's most characteristic example was the widespread espousal
as
> > truth
> >> of the preposterous rumor that "4000 Jews had been warned and did
not
> > go to
> >> their offices on September 11th, the day of the terror attack in
New
> > York."
> >> 42% of Greeks subscribe to the rumor, as opposed to 30% who do
not.1
> > This
> >> rumor was spread as "news" by the media owned by the
ultra-rightwing
> > MP
> >> Yorgos Karatzaferis, as well as by many other print and broadcast
> > media2 -
> >> even by the "Informational Bulletin" of the Technical Chamber of
> > Greece
> >> (8/10). It was propagated, directly or indirectly, by at least one
> >> politician from each of the three major parties. While no
> > condemnations of
> >> the incident were known to have been made by the government,
political
> >> parties, or journalists' unions.
> >>
> >> This example shows how anti-Semitic (and other racist) views are
> > widely
> >> tolerated if not accepted in Greece. This also explains the fact
that
> > 101
> >> New Democracy (ND) (Euro-)parliamentarians condemned with
individual
> >> statements (in the October pages of "Eleftheri Ora") the suspension
of
> >> broadcasting of the TV station "Teletora," owned by Yorgos
> > Michalopoulos,
> >> another ultra-rightwing politician and journalist with anti-Semitic
> > and
> >> racist views corresponding to those of Karatzaferis. Some
politicians
> >> protested in the name of media freedom and polyphony. Others
affixed
> >> laudatory attributes to the station, such as "national,"
"objective,"
> >> "serious," "authoritative," "free voice," "fighter, forum for
> > democracy,"
> >> etc. Meanwhile, everyone has read and knows that, in 2000,
"Teletora"
> > sold
> >> its frequency for big money to the new station "Polis" - where
> > Michalopoulos
> >> has a weekly program - and, this year, decided to illegally
broadcast
> > on the
> >> VHF 3 frequency exclusively reserved for armed forces use. This is
the
> >> reason that the E.E.T.T. (National Commission for
Telecommunications
> > and
> >> Postal Services) suspended the station's operation, along with a
host
> > of
> >> others for which the N.D. (Euro-)parliamentarians did not
demonstrate
> >> comparable "sensitivity."
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:19 EST 2002
Article: 1292730 of alt.revisionism
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Germany is dictated what to believe the new laws under Jewish pressure
clearly say so.
This also includes Switzerland Italy Canada and Australia. Now they are
working
on the European Union Members to do the same.
If some of them does not conform he will be branded as Nazi supporters.

You can Criticize the Bible but you are allowed to question the Holocaust.


Kurt Knoll.
==========
"Daniel Mittleman"  wrote in message
news:c890e66e.0112201956.15b61a84@posting.google.com...
> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
news:<3c215cc4_1@binaries.vphos.net>...
> > I wonder if the Romans were more democratic than the Jews. I do not
> > think there was ever a time
> > where histories was dictated to the people of any Nations the way the
> > Jews are trying to do it
> > world wide.
> >
> > Kurt Knoll.
>
> I think your two sentences are a non-sequitur unless you are comparing
> Israeli treatment of the Palestinians to Roman treatment of conquered
> foes.  Interesting analogy, if this is what you mean.
>
> To you wonder of history, you are being very forgetful.  Consider what
> the average Japanese knows of the Rape of Nanking.  Consider that the
> average Turk knows of the Armenian Holocaust.  Nations have been
> forming a view of history that fits their needs as far back as history
> goes.
>
> That is why we have the old saying, "history is written by the
> victor."
>
> Of course, all this is independent of whether the Israelis are
> addressing the Palestinian situation properly (I think not; your
> mileage may vary).  And the idea that Jews dictate to the rest of the
> world is lunacy and I am confident you aren't a lunatic, right?
>
> danny




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:20 EST 2002
Article: 1292794 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Who has the negatives these prints a lousy are you sure they all  come from
the same location ?.

Kurt Knoll.
============
"rick"  wrote in message news:3C234876.6234@iglou.com...
> Kurt Knoll wrote:
> >
> > In case you don't know it anyone who is not 100 % convinced is a
> > Holohoax Denier.
> >
>
> Here are some photographs for you kurt.
> They are 100% convincing to everyone but a moron.
>
> Denial of of the truth does not make it go away.
> The truth remains the same:
>
> http://motlc.wiesenthal.org/pages/t003/t00315.html
> http://motlc.wiesenthal.org/albums/palbum/p00/a0007p2.html
> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg01/pg3/pg01358.html
> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg16/pg6/pg16677.html
> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg16/pg6/pg16675.html
> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/pages/t088/t08820.html
> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg22/pg0/pg22000.html
> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg04/pg2/pg04270.html
> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg01/pg3/pg01362.html
> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg04/pg5/pg04533.html
> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg00/pg8/pg00876.html
>
> and
>
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/iffr/
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/19411025-wetzel-no365/
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430129-vergasungskeller/
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430331-inventory/
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430624-inventory/
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?30
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?31
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?32
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?34
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?41
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?37
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?38
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?42
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?44
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?45
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?46




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:20 EST 2002
Article: 1292795 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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How about some photos from the destruct cities to compare.

Kurt Knoll.
=========
"rick"  wrote in message news:3C234876.6234@iglou.com...
> Kurt Knoll wrote:
> >
> > In case you don't know it anyone who is not 100 % convinced is a
> > Holohoax Denier.
> >
>
> Here are some photographs for you kurt.
> They are 100% convincing to everyone but a moron.
>
> Denial of of the truth does not make it go away.
> The truth remains the same:
>
> http://motlc.wiesenthal.org/pages/t003/t00315.html
> http://motlc.wiesenthal.org/albums/palbum/p00/a0007p2.html
> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg01/pg3/pg01358.html
> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg16/pg6/pg16677.html
> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg16/pg6/pg16675.html
> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/pages/t088/t08820.html
> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg22/pg0/pg22000.html
> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg04/pg2/pg04270.html
> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg01/pg3/pg01362.html
> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg04/pg5/pg04533.html
> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg00/pg8/pg00876.html
>
> and
>
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/iffr/
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/19411025-wetzel-no365/
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430129-vergasungskeller/
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430331-inventory/
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430624-inventory/
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?30
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?31
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?32
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?34
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?41
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?37
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?38
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?42
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?44
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?45
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?46




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:21 EST 2002
Article: 1292796 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Don't forget to visit the Mauthausen and daniel Kerens web site.

Very Interesting.
In Mauthausen the drove 10 Kilometer each way to gas the prisoners. Must
have
been a hell of a job hey.

The only problem I have is believing it. Every mechanic will tell you if you
plug the tailpipe
exhaust The engine will stop running. If you connect the exhaust gas to the
rear
of the van
and connect it to the inside ?. The if then cabin gets full the engine wall
also
stop running.

So how did they make the rest of the 10 Miles ?.

The Holocaust and Holocaust Soap are Trademarks of the Holocaust Industries
Unlimited.

Kurt Knoll.

"rick"  wrote in message news:3C234876.6234@iglou.com...
> Kurt Knoll wrote:
> >
> > In case you don't know it anyone who is not 100 % convinced is a
> > Holohoax Denier.
> >
>
> Here are some photographs for you kurt.
> They are 100% convincing to everyone but a moron.
>
> Denial of of the truth does not make it go away.
> The truth remains the same:
>
> http://motlc.wiesenthal.org/pages/t003/t00315.html
> http://motlc.wiesenthal.org/albums/palbum/p00/a0007p2.html
> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg01/pg3/pg01358.html
> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg16/pg6/pg16677.html
> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg16/pg6/pg16675.html
> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/pages/t088/t08820.html
> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg22/pg0/pg22000.html
> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg04/pg2/pg04270.html
> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg01/pg3/pg01362.html
> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg04/pg5/pg04533.html
> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg00/pg8/pg00876.html
>
> and
>
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/iffr/
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/19411025-wetzel-no365/
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430129-vergasungskeller/
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430331-inventory/
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430624-inventory/
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?30
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?31
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?32
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?34
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?41
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?37
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?38
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?42
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?44
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?45
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?46




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:21 EST 2002
Article: 1292824 of alt.revisionism
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If you like the Jews so much then why don't you have Them move in with you
?.

"Eugene Holman"  wrote in message
news:211220012002001962%holman@elo.helsinki.fi...
> In article <3C217AF8.70DF4359@earthlink.net>, Richard Phillips
>  wrote:
>
> > ==============================================
> > Phillips
> >
> > How Hitler chose to run Germany was the business of Germany and of no
one
> > else. Like it or don't like it, his accession to power was completely
legal,
> > and he brought benefits to the German people  that  Americans would
dearly
> > love to have today.
>
> How Hitler chose to run Germany was the business of Germany's
> neighbors, trading partners, and the world community.
>
> Hitler's rearmament of the Rhineland contituted a direct and pertinent
> threat to France and the Low Countries, in addition to which it set a
> dangerous precedent with respect to regarded treaties as not worth the
> paper they were printed on. Within six years of Hitler's accession to
> power, technically legal, but surrounded by terror, violence, and
> threats thereof (see http://www.fsmitha.com/h2/ch16.htm ), he had
> criminalized being Jewish in Germany and cancelled the citizenship of
> German Jews, occupied the Rheinland, annexed Austria, absorbed the
> Sudetenland, destroyed Czechoslovakia, applied the anti-Jewish
> legislation in force in Germany to the Jews, including those who had
> left Germany and sought refuge, in Austria and Czechoslovakia, signed a
> treaty with the USSR, and invaded Poland. This resulted in France and
> the UK declaring war on Germany, an action reciprocated by Germany when
> it attacked and occupied the Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, part of
> France, Norway. and Denmark, once again having the legislation
> criminalizing being Jewish applied in those countries to Jewish
> refugees and local Jews alike.
>
> The benefits that he brought to the part of the population that he did
> not criminalize (Jews, homosexuals, Gypsies, Jehovah's witnesses,
> communists, labor union leaders, dissidents,S) included higher prices
> and less efficient service at the businesses aryanized from the Jews
>
> Viewed in retrospect, any gains that ordinary Germans gained can be
> compared to the fattening up of a turkey before the holiday season. An
> inordinate number of young German men who might have fared marginally
> better as a consequence of certain Hitler policies applied between
> January 1933 and September 1939, wound up dying ignominiously at
> Stalingrad or elsewhere, victims of Hitler's megalomania.
>
> > ==============================================
> > Phillips
> >
> > In short, the Nazis gave a damn for the ordinary people
> > of their country, something the ruling elitues of our country have long
> > since ceased to do.
>
> You are sadly misinformed, Richard. The Nazis were out to do some major
> ethnic cleansing on a continent-wide basis, and they had to muster the
> support of the man-in-the-street if they were going to get the
> necessary carte-blanche. They had no logical difficulty with the idea
> that it is acceptable to scapegoat all the Jews within their own
> population for a crime committed by a non-German Jew in France.
>
> > ==============================================
> > Phillips
> >
> > They don't give a damn for anyone other than their
> > precious minorities and their big-bucks campaign contributors.
> >
>
> Depending on how you construct your analysis, everyone is a minority.
> If you look at a demographic analysis of the US population, you will
> find that you, a male in your mid-70s, have been a member of a minority
> group since early childhood. Biology tells us that slightly more males
> than females are born, but that in all societies the difference has
> been corrected in favor of a female majority from the age of five or
> so.
>
> Minorities have the most to lose if the wrong candidate is elected,
> while big-bucks contributors have the most to gain if the right
> candidate is.
>
> > =========================================
>
> --
> Regards,
> Eugene Holman




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:21 EST 2002
Article: 1292829 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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McVay never answers any questions when the going get tough he talks around
it.

On the other hand he is a user this is why he has Jeffery Brown, Mathews and
Lewis & Joel.
He probably gets a kick out of it when they do the Jak Jak for him.

Kurt Knoll.
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"Nizkor's Nemesis"
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> On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 10:25:26 -0000, <3c230ca3@212.67.96.135>
"david_michael"
>  wrote:
>
> >"Michael Ragland"  wrote in message
> >news:35a8d44b.0112210133.65c44394@posting.google.com...
> >> There is [and never was] such a thing as pure free speech in public.
> >> If I go into a public place and threaten to kill the President with a
> >> gun and a stranger overhears me...they have a legitimate reason to
> >> call the police and depending on what the police determine possibly
> >> arrest me. I'm using this not as an analogy but as an example free
> >> speech doesn't give one carte blanche to violate laws.
> :
> >Exactly the argument used by Stalin and co. to justify stamping out free
> >speech altogether.
> :
> >>    Here is the issue as I see it. Mr. McVay doesn't consider
> >> defamation and libel to be legitimate expessions of free speech.
> :
> >Yes he does. He engages in it himself. So far nobody has been hurt by it
> >because hardly anyone takes him seriously. Were that to change, he and
his
> >backers would be in deep doodoo.
>
> Do not forget someone was hurt by McVay's actions. A person could have
lost his
> life, his house, and all of his belongings on account of McVay's
continually
> demonizing him and then making known his identity and his address!
Remember a
> certain person's house being fire bombed? NOW THAT IS TERRORISM and yet to
this
> day McVay still identifies him, demonizes him, and lets people know where
to
> find him yet he jealously guards his own whereabouts!
>
> McVay should be arrested, thoroughly interrogated, convicted, and placed
in
> protective custody for the following:
> 1) Being an agent for a hostile foreign state which engages in espionage
> 2) Receiving "exempt donations" through a money launderer
> 3) Being an accomplice to numerous criminal acts by his ally and confidant
> supporter Laurence B. Shiff
> 4) Acting as an agent to deny people their civil rights
> 5) Being in conspiracy with an ISP, THT.NET, run by Laurence B. Shiff and
used
> to issue thousands of forged cancel messages and spam attacks, and
providing
> Nizkor bandwidth
> 6) Having an endowment fund which will never make a GRANT and whose sole
> recipient is Ken McVay. Ditto for his Nizkor Trust Fund.
> 7) Invasion of people's privacy
> 8) Conspirator to Yale F. Edeiken who used subpoenaed information to make
> criminal death threats, and thus he (Ken McVay) had distributed from his
> supported with "exempt donations" web site
> 9) Being a chronic pathological liar who shills for the most evil people
on
> Earth who spy on people world wide (as I have proven) in order to have
them
> prosecuted for their points of view
>
> >> So when he asks you to come up with evidence the BB or ADL want to
> >> destroy free speech and you present defamatory/libelous speech as
> >> examples of BB and ADL wanting to destroy free speech, he's not going
> >> to consider that as valid.
>
> I have completely exposed McVay and his prostitution and lies with these
posts:
>
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=%20&as_umsgid=2td42uosdf5sjgprac5hlhlk2
e4hbj2ahs@4ax.com&num=20&hl=en
> From: Fraud Watch

> Subject: Nizkor's Ken McVay Spin Doctors for His Masters- The Jews aka Re:
The
> ADL & B'nai B'rith: A Correction
> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 13:54:22 -0600
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> References: <9vtahn$r2a$1@news.tht.net>
>
>
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> From: Fraud Watch

> Subject: MUST READ V2.0 Supplement- Nizkor's Ken McVay Spin Doctors for
His
> Masters- The Jews  (Corrected Second Version)
> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 20:17:20 -0600
> Message-ID: 
>
> Let McVay deny all he wants. I linked him to B'nai Brith and ADL and I
proved
> that ADL and B'nai Brith have "agents" who monitor USENET, chat rooms, and
WEB
> pages. McVay is evil and his masters are the devils of old who wish to
place
> everyone under their communistic tyranny! This is why they are in peril in
all
> the countries which have cast off communism. Communism has been proven to
be the
> Guardian Angel of Jews.
>
> >>    The impasse is what Mr. McVay and the BB and ADL regard as
> >> defamatory and libelous you regard as the truth. Here I will mention
> >> the trial between David Irving and Deborah Lipstadt. A court of law
> >> sided against Mr. Irving. How many more trials will be necessary to
> >> convince you the Holocaust occurred?
> :
> >Pssssst. The court action did not consider the question of whether the
> >'Holocaust' occurred. It considered the question of whether Lipstadt and
> >Penguin defamed Irving. (And it made a right old bodge-up of considering
> >THAT.)
>
> That is a fact the Nizkor crowd totally ignores just as they want to
ignore
> Yale F. Edeiken lost his lawsuit and appeal against me! The truth won't
serve
> their smear agenda so they stick with their lies and fabrications like the
dog
> shits they truly are!
>
> >David
>
>
> >> nationalfront88@aol.comNoJews (National Front88) wrote in message
> >news:<20011219193129.01083.00000063@mb-mr.aol.com>...
> >> > [This gem is worth posting in its entirety, but I thought I'd remind
> >> >Nizkor's McVay that he's yet to reply to Doc Tavish now that his
challenge to
> >> >provide evidence that Jewish organizations want to destroy free
speech.  McVay
> >> >has yet to answer the question:  What sort of truth needs to be
protected with
> >> >threat of prosecution?]
>
> Don't expect McVay to answer- he's too busy running from me exposing him
and his
> agenda and his funding practices. Every time I put McVay on the run his
> accomplices start their criminal harassment against me and now my
neighbors too!
>
> >> > Nizkor's Ken McVay now challenges:
> >> > >Provide evidence that BB or the ADL have "destroy free speech." Use
> >> > >your free speech to do so.
> >> >
> >> > How about this?
> >> >
> >> > http://bnaibrith.org/pr/brazil2.html
> >> > (Link active December 3, 2001 for verification)
> >> >
> >> > From the World's Largest Jewish Organization
> >>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > B'nai B'rith
> >>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > LANDMARK COURT DECISION CONVICTS HOLOCAUST DENIER IN BRAZIL
> >> > Washington, D.C. (November 7, 1996) -- For the first time in Latin
> >> > America a Holocaust denier has been found guilty and sentenced to two
years in
> >> > prison.
> >> > The landmark decision of the High Court of Justice in the
southernmost
> >> > Brazilian state of Rio Grande do Sul reversed a lower court ruling
and
> >> > resulted in the conviction of Siegfried Ellwanger on grounds that he
violated the
> >> > nation's constitution and penal code.
> >> >
> >> >  >> > code written and enacted! Tavish comment>
> >> >
> >> > The president of B'nai B'rith in Brazil hailed the decision.
> >> >
> >> >  >> > to on a global scale. Tavish comment>
> >> >
> >> > "Holocaust deniers such as Ellwanger seek to encourage racial and
> >> > religious divisions that are not compatible with our democratic
society," said
> >> > Abrao Lowenthal.
> >> >
> >> >  >> > people for mere words. Jews are the worst enemies of any nation's
> >> > liberties there is- especially the United States! Tavish comment>
> >> >
> >> > B'nai B'rith along with other Jewish groups in Brazil brought
Ellwanger
> >> > to trial.
> >> >
> >> >  >> > eventually go on trial and be imprisoned for saying things the
> >> > Neo-Bolshevist progeny of the original Bolsheviks dislike! Tavish
comment>
> >> >
> >> > Under the ruling, Ellwanger's books will be confiscated and banned.
> >> > Ellwanger, who writes under the name "S.E. Castan," has written or
published 13
> >> > anti-Semitic books in Portuguese including the infamous The Elders of
> >> > the Protocols of Zion and Henry Ford's The International Jew. One of
> >> > Ellwanger's books is titled The Holocaust: Jewish or German."
> >> >
> >> > 
> >> >
> >> > We know for a fact that B'nai Brith funds Ken McVay's Nizkor too as
this
> >> > proves:
> >> > http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
> >> > The Nizkor Project
> >> > c/o The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada
> >> > Please make your donations payable to "The League for Human Rights of
> >> > B'nai Brith Canada..."
> >> >
> >> > So we do know that an organizations which seeks as its agenda to have
> >> > people imprisoned for their views funds McVay. Looks like he's in bad
company
> >> > and how can Nizkor not be: "an attack on the truth-seeking process
itself"."
> >> >
> >> > What sort of truth needs to be protected with threat of prosecution?
So
> >> > what if people deny the "Holocaust"? SO WHAT? Jews deny Christ so
should we
> >> > prosecute them? Can't you see what Nizkor and McVay's masters are up
to?
> >> >
> >> > I JUST EXPOSED LIE NUMBER ONE FROM WWW.NIZKOR.ORG KEN McVAY
> >> >
> >> > [...]
> >> >
> >> > "I lie face-up on the bed, my body a perfect X. Face up. Oh, Goddess,
> >> > he's going to whip my breasts." --Sara Salzman
>
> Doc Tavish
>
> --
> "But first, two small wooden clothespins bob before my eyes. I turn my
> head, remember I am instructed to watch, turn back. The clothespins bite
> the delicate flesh of each nipple. Grasp. Sting. Burn." -- Kook Sara
> Salzman having a perverted fantasy
> in 
> -From: sschwartz@infinet.com
> -Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
> -Subject: My Master Holds The Ropes Just So (poem)
> -Date: Sun, 05 Feb 1995 14:49:12 -0500
> -Message-ID: 
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:21 EST 2002
Article: 1292832 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Subject: Re: A HOLOCAUST DENIER IS A MORON
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Re your Wiesenhopel are you sure these were Hungarians as for the photo of
the
belongings how did the get there ?.

Are you sure all this photos are from the Auschwitz camp or are some of them
>from  a different
location. Re the Fences what should a concentration cam fence look like ?.

Kurt Knoll.
================
"rick"  wrote in message news:3C234876.6234@iglou.com...
> Kurt Knoll wrote:
> >
> > In case you don't know it anyone who is not 100 % convinced is a
> > Holohoax Denier.
> >
>
> Here are some photographs for you kurt.
> They are 100% convincing to everyone but a moron.
>
> Denial of of the truth does not make it go away.
> The truth remains the same:
>
> http://motlc.wiesenthal.org/pages/t003/t00315.html
> http://motlc.wiesenthal.org/albums/palbum/p00/a0007p2.html
> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg01/pg3/pg01358.html
> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg16/pg6/pg16677.html
> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg16/pg6/pg16675.html
> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/pages/t088/t08820.html
> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg22/pg0/pg22000.html
> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg04/pg2/pg04270.html
> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg01/pg3/pg01362.html
> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg04/pg5/pg04533.html
> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg00/pg8/pg00876.html
>
> and
>
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/iffr/
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/19411025-wetzel-no365/
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430129-vergasungskeller/
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430331-inventory/
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430624-inventory/
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?30
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?31
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?32
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?34
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?41
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?37
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?38
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?42
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?44
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?45
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?46




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:22 EST 2002
Article: 1292870 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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I grew up in Nuremberg and I only seen the total destruction after I
returned there. What I am saying
for moor than 55 years we only see what the Germans did. I sit wrong to ask
you to show the word what you did.

Germany was at war with America, Great Britain, Poland and Russia plus
France.
Germany was not at war with Israel since it did not exist. But it is the
Jews who do all the milking
since 1945. It is also the Jews who are opposed to Freedom of Speech if it
involves tire interest.

Rumania Norway Yugoslavia and others were occupied for strategic reasons.
Great Britain had intention to occupied Norway but came a couple of hours
too late.
Same in North Africa were the British had the interest to block the Germans
of having Access.

Art the end of world war 2 all concentration Camps were classified as death
camps.

The people of Dauchau and the German people were forced to believe this when
in fact in Dachau
there were never any gassing of prisoners took place. In April 1945 when I
returned to Nuremberg
Both News papers the Nuremberg Zeitung and Nuremberg Nachrichten were
already und
Jewish American Control. The News Headlines said all 486 Wachpersonell (Camp
Security Guards) have been
killed by the inmates with Guns supplied by the Americans. I was only 12 1/2
Years old then but I said
how convenient the witnesses are now the inmates.

I did ask at various time here on this NG how many Camp Security Guard were
captured at Auschwitz and how many
first aid nurses were captured ?. What did happen to all of them does anyone
have the answer ?.

More Later





"Michael Ragland"  wrote in message
news:35a8d44b.0112211046.4090b994@posting.google.com...
> Kurt, your response to Rick, "How about some photos from the destruct
> cities to compare" is evasive. Since you're english isn't "perfect"
> that means you are not listening to what Rick is saying. If you asked
> Rick or me if the cities of Dresden, Berlin, etc. were bombed to
> smithereens I know I would say "Yes, they were." We're not denying
> German cities were destroyed by the Allies but you are denying the
> Holocaust occurred. In that sense, your "comparing" the two makes no
> sense and is not logical. Second, the German Nazi government under the
> leadership of Hitler brought on itself the Allied bombardment of
> German cities. Aren't you familiar with Hitler's foreign policy
> objectives Kurt? Early on, before he ever came to power, Hitler
> explicitly made clear Germany needed living space and that the
> solution was conquering land in the East..specifically Russia and her
> vassal border states. If you don't believe me Kurt I can get the
> quotes from Hitler from Mein Kampf. The Nazis invaded Poland Kurt.
> Before that they swallowed Czechoslovakia, occupied the Ruhr,
> disregarded the Versailles Treaty, and armed to the teeth the
> military. The Nazis instigated World War II. The British, French, etc.
> appeased Hitler to extraordinary lengths until finally appeasement no
> longer had any potential value. But if the leaders of Great Britain,
> France, the U.S., etc. had paid close attention to Hitler's foreign
> policy goals they would have realized appeasement/non-action was a
> disastrous mistake. And Stalin, in signing the Blood Pact with Nazi
> Germany, was a complete fuckin fool...even if as some suggest he was
> biding his time to build up the military when the Germans finally
> invaded. But by all accounts, Stalin was 'shocked' when the Germans
> invaded the Soviet Union and it didn't seem the Soviet Union was very
> prepared. Early on, the German advance made incredible strides and
> ultimately more Russians were killed in WWII than anybody else.
> Furthermore, if Stalin had not signed the "Blood Pact" with Nazi
> Germany Hitler would have been much more reluctant to go to war with
> the West.
>    There are 2 movies in Deutsch I would recommend you see. One is
> called "The Wansee Conference" and it is a German film. The other is
> Wolfgang Peterson's film "Das Boot".
>
> MR
> ______________________________________________________
>
>
>
> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
news:<3c2355ef$1_2@binaries.vphos.net>...
> > How about some photos from the destruct cities to compare.
> >
> > Kurt Knoll.
> > =========
> > "rick"  wrote in message
news:3C234876.6234@iglou.com...
> > > Kurt Knoll wrote:
> > > >
> > > > In case you don't know it anyone who is not 100 % convinced is a
> > > > Holohoax Denier.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Here are some photographs for you kurt.
> > > They are 100% convincing to everyone but a moron.
> > >
> > > Denial of of the truth does not make it go away.
> > > The truth remains the same:
> > >
> > > http://motlc.wiesenthal.org/pages/t003/t00315.html
> > > http://motlc.wiesenthal.org/albums/palbum/p00/a0007p2.html
> > > http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg01/pg3/pg01358.html
> > > http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg16/pg6/pg16677.html
> > > http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg16/pg6/pg16675.html
> > > http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/pages/t088/t08820.html
> > > http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg22/pg0/pg22000.html
> > > http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg04/pg2/pg04270.html
> > > http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg01/pg3/pg01362.html
> > > http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg04/pg5/pg04533.html
> > > http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg00/pg8/pg00876.html
> > >
> > > and
> > >
> > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/
> > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/
> > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/iffr/
> > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/19411025-wetzel-no365/
> > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430129-vergasungskeller/
> > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430331-inventory/
> > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430624-inventory/
> > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?30
> > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?31
> > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?32
> > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?34
> > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?41
> > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?37
> > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?38
> > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?42
> > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?44
> > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?45
> > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?46




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:22 EST 2002
Article: 1292942 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Some of the laws in Canada are about the same.

Some of the books are banned because of the Jewish loopy.
Here is one from Richard Harwood questing the 6 Million Jews. And here is
the phony law that was
used against him. He was not taken to court for distributing it. This old
antiquated that states
if you talk about someone and this person feels being singled out or hated
for it.
This law could also being used when the Jews create hate against the Germans
but never would be acepted.

Kurt Knoll.
=============
"Daniel Mittleman"  wrote in message
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> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
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> > Germany is dictated what to believe the new laws under Jewish pressure
> > clearly say so.
> > This also includes Switzerland Italy Canada and Australia. Now they are
> > working
> > on the European Union Members to do the same.
> > If some of them does not conform he will be branded as Nazi supporters.
> >
> > You can Criticize the Bible but you are allowed to question the
Holocaust.
>
> I presume that is a typo and you inadvertantly left out a "not".
>
> It is true that in Germany and other European nations Holocaust denial
> is a crime.  I am not at all sure you can evidence a linkage between
> those laws and Jewish pressure.  But I am not at all sure I can prove
> there is no connection.
>
> America, however, stands tall in that there is no law against
> Holocaust denial.  And while I don't particularly expect you to
> believe it, I have seen first hand that the people at both Nizkor and
> THHP have been vocal in their support for such freedoms of speech in
> both the US and Canada.
>
> As I recall from posts long ago in a.r, the logic is twofold:  [1] if
> we prohibit speech, even speech we believe to be wrong and hurtful,
> then it starts a slippery slope where other speech is evenually
> banned; and [2] it is much better to keep the deniers out front and
> shouting where we can keep an eye on them.  :-)
>
>
> > Kurt Knoll.
> > ==========
> > "Daniel Mittleman"  wrote in message
> > news:c890e66e.0112201956.15b61a84@posting.google.com...
> > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> >  news:<3c215cc4_1@binaries.vphos.net>...
> > > > I wonder if the Romans were more democratic than the Jews. I do not
> > > > think there was ever a time
> > > > where histories was dictated to the people of any Nations the way
the
> > > > Jews are trying to do it
> > > > world wide.
> > > >
> > > > Kurt Knoll.
> > >
> > > I think your two sentences are a non-sequitur unless you are comparing
> > > Israeli treatment of the Palestinians to Roman treatment of conquered
> > > foes.  Interesting analogy, if this is what you mean.
> > >
> > > To you wonder of history, you are being very forgetful.  Consider what
> > > the average Japanese knows of the Rape of Nanking.  Consider that the
> > > average Turk knows of the Armenian Holocaust.  Nations have been
> > > forming a view of history that fits their needs as far back as history
> > > goes.
> > >
> > > That is why we have the old saying, "history is written by the
> > > victor."
> > >
> > > Of course, all this is independent of whether the Israelis are
> > > addressing the Palestinian situation properly (I think not; your
> > > mileage may vary).  And the idea that Jews dictate to the rest of the
> > > world is lunacy and I am confident you aren't a lunatic, right?
> > >
> > > danny




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:22 EST 2002
Article: 1292985 of alt.revisionism
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Both of them did have counter Intelligence working to find out what the
others side did.
It was the British who started the Carped bombing of the German cities and
of course everything did escalate from there on
Watching A&E can be very educating especially if you watch it long enough
you will see what on booths sides
goes on. In one week you see the hate mongering on how the Germans build up
for the war. But then
a week later you see how the French Build 400 Planes a month to prepare for
the war.
As for the other countries that were occupied by the Germans ask your self
if France Belgium an others
were not involved in the conflict and would have denied America and Britain
access. What would have
Britain and America done to get to the Germans.
Germany did Occupied this Countries to prevent the British to come closer to
Germany. And of course both sides
have tried to restrict access to the oil and iron resources of there
opposing forces by occupying other countries.

Germany to prevent Great Britain from having Access to the Iron ore supply
did have to go trough Denmark
to get there.
I remember working with a Danish guy in 1957 who did have a tendency to
exaggerate and impress the Canadians
by telling the a Danish Train engineer was shot by the Germans because he
refused to pilot a train.

I ask and older German Soldier the was for 12 Years in Russia the is
including 6 years as Slave labor about this.

His answer was Kurt he said no country at war will have a Train engineer
hold up a whole army. I am
asking you what would the Americans have done in the same situation when
they them self had nobody else.

Kurt Knoll.
============





"Michael Ragland"  wrote in message
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> Herr Knoll:
>
> The sufferring which was brought on Germany was primarily the
> responsibility of Hitler and the Nazi Party. Also, government
> officials intriqued to bring Hitler to power such as Otto Messner,
> Papen, and Oscar Hindenburg. Schleicher was an incompetent and helped
> pave the way. A good book to read is called "Thirty Days to Power". I
> forgot the author but it should be available on German Amazon. Just
> type in the title.
>    Although Germany was mainly responsible for WWI the Versailles
> Treaty was not well thought out and contributed to economic disaster
> in Germany. I'm sure there are other reasons why Germany went into
> such a severe depression but I'm not an economist.
>    The reason you here more about the Holocaust than the destruction
> of German cities is because Nazi Germany waged war on other countries
> and invited its cities being bombarded just as it bombarded Britain.
> The Jews of Europe didn't invite the Germans and their accomplices to
> round them up and transport them to work and killing facilities. Yes,
> the British did want to occupy Norway but that was because they knew
> Germany was about to. It was war.
>     I'm sure you've heard of the White Rose group of young Germans in
> Nazi Germany who opposed Hitler and the Nazis. They merely distributed
> anti-Hitler literature and they were arrested, convicted, and their
> heads lopped off. Hans and Sophie and a few others. Then there was the
> Confessional Church, Dietrich Bonhoeffer, Martin Niemoller, Schnieder,
> etc.
>      I would not want to live in a society which kills people just for
> speaking out against the government. Would you?
>
> MR
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
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> > I grew up in Nuremberg and I only seen the total destruction after I
> > returned there. What I am saying
> > for moor than 55 years we only see what the Germans did. I sit wrong to
ask
> > you to show the word what you did.
> >
> > Germany was at war with America, Great Britain, Poland and Russia plus
> > France.
> > Germany was not at war with Israel since it did not exist. But it is the
> > Jews who do all the milking
> > since 1945. It is also the Jews who are opposed to Freedom of Speech if
it
> > involves tire interest.
> >
> > Rumania Norway Yugoslavia and others were occupied for strategic
reasons.
> > Great Britain had intention to occupied Norway but came a couple of
hours
> > too late.
> > Same in North Africa were the British had the interest to block the
Germans
> > of having Access.
> >
> > Art the end of world war 2 all concentration Camps were classified as
death
> > camps.
> >
> > The people of Dauchau and the German people were forced to believe this
when
> > in fact in Dachau
> > there were never any gassing of prisoners took place. In April 1945 when
I
> > returned to Nuremberg
> > Both News papers the Nuremberg Zeitung and Nuremberg Nachrichten were
> > already und
> > Jewish American Control. The News Headlines said all 486 Wachpersonell
(Camp
> > Security Guards) have been
> > killed by the inmates with Guns supplied by the Americans. I was only 12
1/2
> > Years old then but I said
> > how convenient the witnesses are now the inmates.
> >
> > I did ask at various time here on this NG how many Camp Security Guard
were
> > captured at Auschwitz and how many
> > first aid nurses were captured ?. What did happen to all of them does
anyone
> > have the answer ?.
> >
> > More Later
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Michael Ragland"  wrote in message
> > news:35a8d44b.0112211046.4090b994@posting.google.com...
> > > Kurt, your response to Rick, "How about some photos from the destruct
> > > cities to compare" is evasive. Since you're english isn't "perfect"
> > > that means you are not listening to what Rick is saying. If you asked
> > > Rick or me if the cities of Dresden, Berlin, etc. were bombed to
> > > smithereens I know I would say "Yes, they were." We're not denying
> > > German cities were destroyed by the Allies but you are denying the
> > > Holocaust occurred. In that sense, your "comparing" the two makes no
> > > sense and is not logical. Second, the German Nazi government under the
> > > leadership of Hitler brought on itself the Allied bombardment of
> > > German cities. Aren't you familiar with Hitler's foreign policy
> > > objectives Kurt? Early on, before he ever came to power, Hitler
> > > explicitly made clear Germany needed living space and that the
> > > solution was conquering land in the East..specifically Russia and her
> > > vassal border states. If you don't believe me Kurt I can get the
> > > quotes from Hitler from Mein Kampf. The Nazis invaded Poland Kurt.
> > > Before that they swallowed Czechoslovakia, occupied the Ruhr,
> > > disregarded the Versailles Treaty, and armed to the teeth the
> > > military. The Nazis instigated World War II. The British, French, etc.
> > > appeased Hitler to extraordinary lengths until finally appeasement no
> > > longer had any potential value. But if the leaders of Great Britain,
> > > France, the U.S., etc. had paid close attention to Hitler's foreign
> > > policy goals they would have realized appeasement/non-action was a
> > > disastrous mistake. And Stalin, in signing the Blood Pact with Nazi
> > > Germany, was a complete fuckin fool...even if as some suggest he was
> > > biding his time to build up the military when the Germans finally
> > > invaded. But by all accounts, Stalin was 'shocked' when the Germans
> > > invaded the Soviet Union and it didn't seem the Soviet Union was very
> > > prepared. Early on, the German advance made incredible strides and
> > > ultimately more Russians were killed in WWII than anybody else.
> > > Furthermore, if Stalin had not signed the "Blood Pact" with Nazi
> > > Germany Hitler would have been much more reluctant to go to war with
> > > the West.
> > >    There are 2 movies in Deutsch I would recommend you see. One is
> > > called "The Wansee Conference" and it is a German film. The other is
> > > Wolfgang Peterson's film "Das Boot".
> > >
> > > MR
> > > ______________________________________________________
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> >  news:<3c2355ef$1_2@binaries.vphos.net>...
> > > > How about some photos from the destruct cities to compare.
> > > >
> > > > Kurt Knoll.
> > > > =========
> > > > "rick"  wrote in message
> >  news:3C234876.6234@iglou.com...
> > > > > Kurt Knoll wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In case you don't know it anyone who is not 100 % convinced is a
> > > > > > Holohoax Denier.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Here are some photographs for you kurt.
> > > > > They are 100% convincing to everyone but a moron.
> > > > >
> > > > > Denial of of the truth does not make it go away.
> > > > > The truth remains the same:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://motlc.wiesenthal.org/pages/t003/t00315.html
> > > > > http://motlc.wiesenthal.org/albums/palbum/p00/a0007p2.html
> > > > > http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg01/pg3/pg01358.html
> > > > > http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg16/pg6/pg16677.html
> > > > > http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg16/pg6/pg16675.html
> > > > > http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/pages/t088/t08820.html
> > > > > http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg22/pg0/pg22000.html
> > > > > http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg04/pg2/pg04270.html
> > > > > http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg01/pg3/pg01362.html
> > > > > http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg04/pg5/pg04533.html
> > > > > http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg00/pg8/pg00876.html
> > > > >
> > > > > and
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/
> > > > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/
> > > > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/iffr/
> > > > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/19411025-wetzel-no365/
> > > > >
http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430129-vergasungskeller/
> > > > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430331-inventory/
> > > > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430624-inventory/
> > > > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?30
> > > > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?31
> > > > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?32
> > > > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?34
> > > > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?41
> > > > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?37
> > > > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?38
> > > > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?42
> > > > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?44
> > > > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?45
> > > > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?46




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The American Film Industries is mostly owned by the Jews and it stands to
reason they will look after
their on interest first. The do Exploit the situation and will exaggerate or
distort what the Germans
did in world war II if it serves their cause while at the same time downplay
what is going on in Israel.

Kurt Knoll.
===========
"Michael Ragland"  wrote in message
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> Herr Knoll:
>
> I can't read German and you didn't provide a link. But assuming the
> information is accurate I infer war scenes in Das Boot have been
> deleted in the German version [in Germany]? Is that correct? If it is
> that's truly unfortunate but Hollywood has become more 'politically
> correct' in recent years. I don't like it. I remember seeing movies
> years ago before they were unedited and I see them today and they are
> all chopped up. A young person who has never seen the movie 'thinks'
> he or she is seeing the whole movie but they aren't.
>
> Let me give you an American example. When "Apocalypse Now" first aired
> at the end of the movie it showed the character played by Martin Sheen
> ordering the entire destruction of the natives who had been following
> Cornel Kurtz. Now, Apocalypse Now is a silly movie and fantasy but if
> you look at the new version of Apocalypse Now the ENTIRE scene where
> the jungle is being firebombed and the natives killed is COMPLETELY
> DELETED. I have no proof but in my opinion that was done so the movie
> would be more politically correct.
>
> In America the released an unedited and extended version of Das Boot
> but I have not seen it. Since the movie was about a German U-Boat crew
> I don't see how one could avoid deleting all war scenes. As I recall,
> the most dramatic scene was at the end of the movie when they had left
> the submarine and were attacked and killed.
>
> MR
> _____________________________________________________
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Werner Knoll  wrote in message
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> > Pazifische Rundschau Februar 2001 Seite 11
> >
> > Keine Kriegsbilder (No picture's about the war)
> > Der Maler und Autor des Bestseller "Das Boot", Lothar-Günther Buchheim
> > darf sein umstrittenen Kriegsbilder nun doch nicht ausstellen. Die
> > vorwürfe der Kriegsverherrlichung wies Buchheim strickt zurück.
> >
> > What it says here? Mister Bucheim the author of "Das Boot" is not
> > allowed to display pictures about the war because it would glorify the
> > war!
> >
> > You be the judge?
> >
> > Werner Knoll
> >
> > Michael Ragland wrote:
> > >
> > > Kurt, your response to Rick, "How about some photos from the destruct
> > > cities to compare" is evasive. Since you're english isn't "perfect"
> > > that means you are not listening to what Rick is saying. If you asked
> > > Rick or me if the cities of Dresden, Berlin, etc. were bombed to
> > > smithereens I know I would say "Yes, they were." We're not denying
> > > German cities were destroyed by the Allies but you are denying the
> > > Holocaust occurred. In that sense, your "comparing" the two makes no
> > > sense and is not logical. Second, the German Nazi government under the
> > > leadership of Hitler brought on itself the Allied bombardment of
> > > German cities. Aren't you familiar with Hitler's foreign policy
> > > objectives Kurt? Early on, before he ever came to power, Hitler
> > > explicitly made clear Germany needed living space and that the
> > > solution was conquering land in the East..specifically Russia and her
> > > vassal border states. If you don't believe me Kurt I can get the
> > > quotes from Hitler from Mein Kampf. The Nazis invaded Poland Kurt.
> > > Before that they swallowed Czechoslovakia, occupied the Ruhr,
> > > disregarded the Versailles Treaty, and armed to the teeth the
> > > military. The Nazis instigated World War II. The British, French, etc.
> > > appeased Hitler to extraordinary lengths until finally appeasement no
> > > longer had any potential value. But if the leaders of Great Britain,
> > > France, the U.S., etc. had paid close attention to Hitler's foreign
> > > policy goals they would have realized appeasement/non-action was a
> > > disastrous mistake. And Stalin, in signing the Blood Pact with Nazi
> > > Germany, was a complete fuckin fool...even if as some suggest he was
> > > biding his time to build up the military when the Germans finally
> > > invaded. But by all accounts, Stalin was 'shocked' when the Germans
> > > invaded the Soviet Union and it didn't seem the Soviet Union was very
> > > prepared. Early on, the German advance made incredible strides and
> > > ultimately more Russians were killed in WWII than anybody else.
> > > Furthermore, if Stalin had not signed the "Blood Pact" with Nazi
> > > Germany Hitler would have been much more reluctant to go to war with
> > > the West.
> > >    There are 2 movies in Deutsch I would recommend you see. One is
> > > called "The Wansee Conference" and it is a German film. The other is
> > > Wolfgang Peterson's film "Das Boot".
> > >
> > > MR
> > > ______________________________________________________
> > >
> > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
news:<3c2355ef$1_2@binaries.vphos.net>...
> > > > How about some photos from the destruct cities to compare.
> > > >
> > > > Kurt Knoll.
> > > > =========
> > > > "rick"  wrote in message
news:3C234876.6234@iglou.com...
> > > > > Kurt Knoll wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In case you don't know it anyone who is not 100 % convinced is a
> > > > > > Holohoax Denier.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Here are some photographs for you kurt.
> > > > > They are 100% convincing to everyone but a moron.
> > > > >
> > > > > Denial of of the truth does not make it go away.
> > > > > The truth remains the same:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://motlc.wiesenthal.org/pages/t003/t00315.html
> > > > > http://motlc.wiesenthal.org/albums/palbum/p00/a0007p2.html
> > > > > http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg01/pg3/pg01358.html
> > > > > http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg16/pg6/pg16677.html
> > > > > http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg16/pg6/pg16675.html
> > > > > http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/pages/t088/t08820.html
> > > > > http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg22/pg0/pg22000.html
> > > > > http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg04/pg2/pg04270.html
> > > > > http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg01/pg3/pg01362.html
> > > > > http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg04/pg5/pg04533.html
> > > > > http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg00/pg8/pg00876.html
> > > > >
> > > > > and
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/
> > > > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/
> > > > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/iffr/
> > > > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/19411025-wetzel-no365/
> > > > >
http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430129-vergasungskeller/
> > > > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430331-inventory/
> > > > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430624-inventory/
> > > > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?30
> > > > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?31
> > > > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?32
> > > > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?34
> > > > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?41
> > > > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?37
> > > > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?38
> > > > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?42
> > > > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?44
> > > > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?45
> > > > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?46




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:23 EST 2002
Article: 1292989 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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I did not see you having a point here Joel ?. What would be the case if he
was Jewish and
did have dual citizenship.

Kurt Knoll.
=========
"Joel Rosenberg"  wrote in message
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> Werner Knoll  writes:
>
> > Are the Americans willing to hang that Young American who fought with Al
> > - Qaida?
> >
>
> No.  Hanging isn't the method that will be used in Federal capital
> cases, so even if he is charged with a capital crime (unlikely) and
> convicted (unlikely, if it's treason -- the constitutional
> requirements for proof are severe), he'll die from lethal injection,
> not the rope.
>
> That said, he's probably going to jail for a couple of decades.
>
> Did you have a point?
> --
> -------------------------------------
> There's a widow in sleepy Chester
>   Who weeps for her only son;
> There's a grave on the Pabeng River,
>   A grave that the Burmans shun,
> And there's Subadar Prag Tewarri
>   Who tells how the work was done.
> -------------------------------------




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:23 EST 2002
Article: 1292998 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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I think you are pre programmed in what you write. I'll bet you have an
answer already for my next posting before you read it.

Kurt Knoll.
==========
"Joel Rosenberg"  wrote in message
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> "Kurt Knoll"  writes:
>
> > I did not see you having a point here Joel ?.
>
> Yes, but your ignorance isn't terribly important, is it?  Even your
> brother is embarrassed by it.
>
> > What would be the case if he
> > was Jewish and
> > did have dual citizenship.
> >
> > Kurt Knoll.
> > =========
>
> Being Jewish and/or having dual citizenship are not defenses in a US
> court -- nor a Canadian one, Kurtsie.
>
> HTH.  (Your mother gives green stamps.)
>
>
> --
> -------------------------------------
> There's a widow in sleepy Chester
>   Who weeps for her only son;
> There's a grave on the Pabeng River,
>   A grave that the Burmans shun,
> And there's Subadar Prag Tewarri
>   Who tells how the work was done.
> -------------------------------------




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:24 EST 2002
Article: 1293094 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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You are screwed up Hartman I never said anything about Das Boat. Part of my
business  was Video Rentals i did have
almost 4 thousand of the but never had the time to watch a single one due to
luck of time.

Kurt Knoll.
===========
"Hartmann Schaffer"  wrote in message
news:3c242b5d@news.sentex.net...
> In article <35a8d44b.0112212033.664e660c@posting.google.com>,
> Ragland36@webtv.net (Michael Ragland) writes:
> > Herr Knoll:
> >
> > I can't read German and you didn't provide a link. But assuming the
> > information is accurate I infer war scenes in Das Boot have been
> > deleted in the German version [in Germany]? Is that correct? If it is
>
> not quite correct: he was prohibited from displaying a few pictures
> about the war (presumably ww2) because they would "glorify war".  the
> article (at least the excerpt thar mr. knoll quoted did not mention
> whether thet were from "das boot" or unrelated
>
> > ...
>
> hs
>
> --
>
> how are we defending our freedom and democracy by dismantling them?




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:24 EST 2002
Article: 1293099 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Who does ?. For more than 55 years I have been forced to listening to you
guys. Do me it seem
you want to glorify your self till Kingdom comes. Just as soon  as someone
ask questions you guys
get immediately Intimidating and you resort Nazi name calling. Or you don't
want to know what role
you played in the war or what led up to it.

And like always the ones that seen the least know the most.

Kurt Knoll.
==========

"TC"  wrote in message
news:a01ct4$i72qr$1@ID-15498.news.dfncis.de...
>
> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> news:3c2355ef$1_2@binaries.vphos.net...
> > How about some photos from the destruct cities to compare.
> >
> > Kurt Knoll.
> Coventry as opposed to Dresden?
>
> Who started that?   Knoll, you are an idiot.   My Father wasn't proud of
> doing the job on German cities, but turnabout was fair play at the time.
> Don't be a fool and try to turn history into some damn fool notion of
> innocence.
>
> Merry Christmas.
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:24 EST 2002
Article: 1293114 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Who knows when you guys are finished exterminating the rest of the
Palestinians you have it all.
And your American Relatives did have a big helping hand in it. The only
thing is the American
public is too primitive to know what wend on. Of course you have been lying
to them for years
that you were always living there. And of course then again they couldn't
know that's because their interest
is not Palestine but Hockey, baseball, golf and the great pastime watching
Movies on TV and Videos.
Now you know why their IQ is so high.

Kurt Knoll.
========
"Michael W. Lancaster"  wrote in message
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> > "Jon°" wrote:
> >
> > They did not swarm there in any numbers until
> > after WW2.
>
> *****
> At the end of the Great War, Jews made up a
> fifth of the population of the area.  The
> largest influx occurred in the 1930s
> concomitantly with the rise of Hitler to power
> in Germany.  At the point of proclamation of
> the state of Israel, the Jews formed roughly
> half the population of the area.
>
>
>
> > They came by the boat load and up to a
> > certain date, which I do not know, the
> > British forces did their best to control
> > the inflow.
>
> *****
> The bastard British forces in fact prevented
> many Jews from entering Israel when they needed
> it the most, i. e. at the height of pogrom at
> the hands of the Hun.  Not only that, but 'we'
> actually shipped ourselves them off to
> concentration camps in e. g. Cyprus.  Shame!
>
> Michael
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:25 EST 2002
Article: 1293177 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Jeffery you are the number one Fuck Head all the other Jews come after you.

Kurt Knoll.
===========
"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
news:jeffreygbrown-A23E6D.17025322122001@news.alt.net...
> In article ,
"Fabian"
>  wrote:
>
> > What they did with
> > Leuchter was character assassination, a typical shyster trick to
discredit
> > the man.
>
> Who is "they"?
>
> > [...deletia...]
>
> > 3. They can find now human remains after 5000, 10 000 and more years. It
is
> > strange that only Jewish remains cannot be found, not after 1 year, 10
years
> > or 60 years.
>
> Why do you believe that "Jewish remains cannot be found"?
>
> JGB
>
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown                          jeffreygbrown@mailandnews.com
> For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
> to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
> To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study", 1997




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:25 EST 2002
Article: 1293190 of alt.revisionism
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Well then how would you describe your self.
Kurt Knoll.
===========
"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
news:jeffreygbrown-106ECC.19180222122001@news.alt.net...
> In article <3c251ab3_2@binaries.vphos.net>, "Lying Shit Knoll"
>  wrote:
>
> > Jeffery you are the number one Fuck Head
>
> Yes, folks, it's sad but true... this really is the best "argument" that
Kurtsie
> Knoll is capable of.
>
> JGB
>
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown                          jeffreygbrown@mailandnews.com
> For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
> to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
> To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study", 1997




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:26 EST 2002
Article: 1293232 of alt.revisionism
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As in Mauthausen were they on the way home from gussen just emptied the gas
wagon and dumped the bodies
in the ditch. The prisoners got gassed in the Rail cars and the walked to
the crematorium. The run up 134
stairs in record speed and the jumped over the cliff to kill them self's (
Please note this were not suicide Bombers. They
were suicide Jumpers.). The doctors removed organs while the victims were
still alive. The gas Van killed
prisoners both ways first from gussen to Mauthausen and then again from
Mauthausen to gussen.
The mauthausen Prison guards and Doctors did have a striving business
selling leather goods from
human tattooed skins and shrink heads. But don't forget most of it wend on
in secret and nobody knew anything till a couple
of years after the war. Oh yes  maybe they do have a leftover Gas Van in the
Mauthausen Museum. I really like to
see one. Hey guys has anyone seen Jesus walk over the sea of Galilee ?.

Kurt Knoll.
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"Michael Ragland"  wrote in message
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> Fabian:
>
> The word "quack" was invented for a reason. My American Heritage
> Dictionary defines the word as (1) An untrained person who pretends to
> have medical knowledge. (2) A charlatan. Definition of "charlatan" (1)
> a person who makes elaborate and fradulent claims to skill or
> knowledge. From all the information I've read about Lechter, who
> resides in Massachusetts, he fits the definition of a charlatan/quack.
> Leuchter's lack of credentials got him in some difficulties not just
> over his research on the gas chambers (which I believe was proven
> false in court) but in his business of selling lethal equipment to
> prisons as well.
>    Yes, they did find the Ice Man who I believe was over 10,000 years
> old but he did not go up the chimney either. Finding preserved remains
> is one thing finding preserved ashes after 50 years another. As
> pertains the killing squads in the East I could be wrong but I believe
> most of those Jewish bodies were burned up as well. From what I've
> read the Nazis went to great pains to burn up what evidence there
> was...to conceal what they had done.
>
> MR
> _____________________________________________________
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Fabian"  wrote in message
news:...
> > 1. I am a registered engineer, Michael. Licensed, with seal and number.
Here
> > in California 'engineer' is not a protected title: Everybody can call
> > himself 'engineer' and would not be called a liar, a quack, or any such
> > expression. We have garbage can engineers, kitchen cabinet engineers,
floor
> > covering engineers, etc. I also have known engineers without the
academic
> > credentials who were excellent in their professions. What they did with
> > Leuchter was character assassination, a typical shyster trick to
discredit
> > the man. Critizise what he came up with during his research, this I
> > understand, but to call him a liar, fraud and all the other names. Well,
> > suit yourself.
> > 2. I am very careful not to insult, libel or defame anybody. Are you
also,
> > Michael?
> > 3. They can find now human remains after 5000, 10 000 and more years. It
is
> > strange that only Jewish remains cannot be found, not after 1 year, 10
years
> > or 60 years. Maybe they are made of some special stuff, different from
all
> > the others. Or, as somebody elese said, the Nazis had a special machine
to
> > make a body disappear completely.
> > Or, maybe, these Jews were never killed??
> >
> > fge
> >
> > "Michael Ragland"  wrote in message
> > news:35a8d44b.0112212050.6b7cd664@posting.google.com...
> > > Fabian, I don't think 'either' evidence or libel suits would convince
> > > you and others like you the Holocaust occurred. "Dr. Quack" otherwise
> > > known as "Dr. Death" Fred Leuchter has been shown to be a liar about
> > > his so-called credentials as an engineer. Should Mr. Leuchter be sued?
> > > That's not for me to decide. Everyday Jews are libeled/defamed and it
> > > depends on the case and circumstances whether Jewish individual(s),
> > > governments, etc. take legal action. In the case of Irving, it was he
> > > who brought the suit and he got creamed.
> > >    It's almost 50 years after the fact and you want physical evidence
> > > such as ashes. There isn't any more ashes Fabian but there is plenty
> > > of evidence the Holocaust occured. Everyday on a.r. there are many
> > > posts providing evidence of the Holocaust. Apparently, you choose not
> > > to see them or if you do they don't register as having any meaning to
> > > you.
> > >
> > > MR
> > > _____________________________________________________
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Fabian"  wrote in message
> >  news:<7HLU7.2656$OT5.1521310897@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>...
> > > > So if one goes to Poland, to Auschwitz, does some digging, boring,
> >  forensic
> > > > testing, and publishes his results  that 1 Million (or whatever)
Jews
> >  could
> > > > not possibly have been killed there, than this is defamation and
libel,
> > > > which should be punished, for example in Germany with the tools of
their
> > > > Stgb. Par. 130 with up to 5 years in the slammer? Come on!
> > > > Saying something like this might threaten to kill the 'Dukaten Esel'
(=
> > > > money machine), no? Of course Mr. McVay and the BB and ADL would not
be
> > > > interested in that, now, would they?
> > > >
> > > > Mr.Ragland:
> > > > >
> > > > > ... How many more trials will be necessary to
> > > > > convince you the Holocaust occurred?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Show us the remaining parts and ashes of the 12 Million killed
civilians
> >  (6
> > > > Million Jews, 6 Million Non-Jews),  the mass graves, forensic tests,
> >  results
> > > > from ground penetrating radar tests, at least in the major camps,
show
> >  us
> > > > the killer weapons. Then we are convinced. But with libel suits? Get
> >  real!
> > > >
> > > > fge




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:26 EST 2002
Article: 1293233 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Would it be different if he was Jewish. What was the reason for bringing him
to trial ?. Does Massachusetts have
an gas chamber engineer at all ?. Are engineers the only one qualified or do
the have to go to the (slime Factory-University) to be qualified. Do
Qualified Massachusetts Engineers now more about gas chambers or is this jus
an other
Jewish trick.

Kurt Knoll.
============
"Michael Ragland"  wrote in message
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> Leuchter Not Engineer
> Washington Post, June 1991
> Holocaust Revisionist Admits He Is Not Engineer
> .
> © Copyright The Washington Post, June 18, 1991, FINAL Edition
> By: Christopher B. Daly, Special to The Washington Post
> BOSTON, June 17 - Fred A. Leuchter Jr., a self-styled expert in the
> machinery of death who parlayed his reputation as a builder of killing
> equipment into a second career as a proponent of "Holocaust
> revisionism," has admitted that he is not an engineer.
> Made in a consent decree filed with a Massachusetts court last week,
> his admission should deal a blow to the movement holding that the Nazi
> extermination of 6 million Jews and others during World War II was a
> hoax or an exaggeration, according to experts in the field.
> Leuchter, 48, of suburban Malden, was to face trial later this month
> on charges of practicing engineering without a license, a violation of
> Massachusetts law. But on June 11, he signed a consent agreement with
> the board that licenses engineers.
> In it, Leuchter acknowledged that, "I am not and have never been
> registered as a professional engineer" and that he nevertheless had
> represented himself as an engineer in dealings with various states
> that use the death penalty and to which he supplied equipment or
> advice.
> The agreement also requires Leuchter to stop disseminating reports in
> which he purports to be an engineer, most significantly a document
> known as the "Leuchter Report."
> That report, widely circulated by revisionists, asserts that gas
> chambers at Nazi concentration camps in  Auschwitz, Birkenau and
> Majdanek could not have been used for mass killings because they were
> not big enough nor well ventilated or sealed. The assertion is based
> largely on chemical analysis of materials scraped surreptitiously from
> walls of those chambers by Leuchter during a visit to Poland in
> February 1988.
> Sally Greenberg, an attorney with the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai
> B'rith in Boston, which was instrumental in bringing Leuchter to the
> attention of Massachusetts authorities, welcomed the settlement.
> "It's a blow to Holocaust revisionism because he has been the guru of
> the revisionists," she said. "Now, he has as much as admitted that he
> is not qualified as an engineer to comment on the 'myth' of the
> Holocaust. It's essentially an admission that he's the charlatan and
> phony that we always knew he was."
> Leuchter, a slight, bespectacled man whose father was a prison guard,
> has made a specialty of devising, selling and installing equipment for
> carrying out executions, including an injection device. As a result,
> he has been the subject of many profiles in the national news media,
> none of which delved into his involvement with groups that deny the
> Holocaust.
> After signing the consent agreement, Leuchter issued a one-page
> statement. "There is no finding nor has there been any admission of
> guilt on the part of Leuchter," it said, adding that he plans to
> prepare immediately to seek an engineering license.
> "Mr. Leuchter and his defense counsel will not make any further
> statements regarding the legal resolution of the case," it said.
> Leuchter did not return telephone calls. Nor did his attorney, Kirk
> Lyons of Houston, whose practice includes defending white supremacists
> and Ku Klux Klan members.
> David Wyman, a historian who wrote a 1984 study of American reaction
> to the Holocaust, said stripping Leuchter's "engineering" credentials
> could be important because the scientific aura surrounding his report
> could have lent credibility to the revisionist movement, which he
> called a mask for antisemitism.
> "American society has advanced to the point that we don't accept
> bigotry openly," said Wyman, a professor at the University of
> Massachusetts at Amherst. "That means antisemites have had to retreat,
> to dress it up in a more palatable fashion, pretend it's scholarship."
> Michael Bernbaum, project director of the U.S. Holocaust Memorial
> Museum in Washington, said discrediting Leuchter's expertise was
> important, but that to a "fringe group" of virulent antisemites it
> would make no difference whether Leuchter had an engineering license.
> "The revisionists are the equivalent of a flat-Earth society," he
> said. "The Holocaust is one of the most thoroughly documented events
> in history. The perpetrators have never denied it."
> Deborah Lipstadt, a Los Angeles author who is writing a book on the
> Holocaust revision movement in the United States, said Leuchter was
> being cited increasingly in revisionist circles as a scientific
> authority whose report "proved" that Nazi death camps never operated
> as survivors have said.
> "The fact that he claimed to be an engineer was central to the whole
> issue," Lipstadt said. "He's not just your local kook. He was their
> scientific cover. In that sense, he is a substantial figure."
> The revisionist movement is a loose grouping of people who question
> the Holocaust for a variety of reasons, from admiration for Nazis to
> antisemitism and opposition to Israel. An influential hub of
> revisionist thinking is the Institute for Historical Review in
> Torrance, Calif., which has publicized Leuchter's work.
>
> _____________________________________________________
>
>
>
> "Fabian"  wrote in message
news:...
> > 1. I am a registered engineer, Michael. Licensed, with seal and number.
Here
> > in California 'engineer' is not a protected title: Everybody can call
> > himself 'engineer' and would not be called a liar, a quack, or any such
> > expression. We have garbage can engineers, kitchen cabinet engineers,
floor
> > covering engineers, etc. I also have known engineers without the
academic
> > credentials who were excellent in their professions. What they did with
> > Leuchter was character assassination, a typical shyster trick to
discredit
> > the man. Critizise what he came up with during his research, this I
> > understand, but to call him a liar, fraud and all the other names. Well,
> > suit yourself.
> > 2. I am very careful not to insult, libel or defame anybody. Are you
also,
> > Michael?
> > 3. They can find now human remains after 5000, 10 000 and more years. It
is
> > strange that only Jewish remains cannot be found, not after 1 year, 10
years
> > or 60 years. Maybe they are made of some special stuff, different from
all
> > the others. Or, as somebody elese said, the Nazis had a special machine
to
> > make a body disappear completely.
> > Or, maybe, these Jews were never killed??
> >
> > fge
> >
> > "Michael Ragland"  wrote in message
> > news:35a8d44b.0112212050.6b7cd664@posting.google.com...
> > > Fabian, I don't think 'either' evidence or libel suits would convince
> > > you and others like you the Holocaust occurred. "Dr. Quack" otherwise
> > > known as "Dr. Death" Fred Leuchter has been shown to be a liar about
> > > his so-called credentials as an engineer. Should Mr. Leuchter be sued?
> > > That's not for me to decide. Everyday Jews are libeled/defamed and it
> > > depends on the case and circumstances whether Jewish individual(s),
> > > governments, etc. take legal action. In the case of Irving, it was he
> > > who brought the suit and he got creamed.
> > >    It's almost 50 years after the fact and you want physical evidence
> > > such as ashes. There isn't any more ashes Fabian but there is plenty
> > > of evidence the Holocaust occured. Everyday on a.r. there are many
> > > posts providing evidence of the Holocaust. Apparently, you choose not
> > > to see them or if you do they don't register as having any meaning to
> > > you.
> > >
> > > MR
> > > _____________________________________________________
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Fabian"  wrote in message
> >  news:<7HLU7.2656$OT5.1521310897@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>...
> > > > So if one goes to Poland, to Auschwitz, does some digging, boring,
> >  forensic
> > > > testing, and publishes his results  that 1 Million (or whatever)
Jews
> >  could
> > > > not possibly have been killed there, than this is defamation and
libel,
> > > > which should be punished, for example in Germany with the tools of
their
> > > > Stgb. Par. 130 with up to 5 years in the slammer? Come on!
> > > > Saying something like this might threaten to kill the 'Dukaten Esel'
(=
> > > > money machine), no? Of course Mr. McVay and the BB and ADL would not
be
> > > > interested in that, now, would they?
> > > >
> > > > Mr.Ragland:
> > > > >
> > > > > ... How many more trials will be necessary to
> > > > > convince you the Holocaust occurred?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Show us the remaining parts and ashes of the 12 Million killed
civilians
> >  (6
> > > > Million Jews, 6 Million Non-Jews),  the mass graves, forensic tests,
> >  results
> > > > from ground penetrating radar tests, at least in the major camps,
show
> >  us
> > > > the killer weapons. Then we are convinced. But with libel suits? Get
> >  real!
> > > >
> > > > fge




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:26 EST 2002
Article: 1293247 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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In a way I am with you this time. No one has created more harm to mankind
than religious fanatics and
hallelujah gangsters.

Kurt Knoll.
==============
"Michael Ragland"  wrote in message
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> I look forward to the day, although I will not see it, when there is
> no Hanukkah, no Christmas, no Kwanzaa, Yom Kippur, Rosh Hashanah,
> Passover, Good Friday, or any holidays like Halloween, Columbus Day,
> Valentines Day, etc., etc., etc. Especially all the religious
> mentality which has existed for centuries essentially unchanged
> gradually swept away. Brave New World had some good things about it.
>
> MR
> _____________________________________________________
>
>
>
> Tavish is ADL's Nemesis
 wrote in message
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> > Doc Tavish will be taking some time off for rest and relaxation. I need
a break
> > after wrestling with the wild beast anti-christs and their agents of
wickedness.
> >
> > I won't say have a Merry Christmas to the Jews who lurk the news groups
because
> > they are "anti-Christ" and there is no denying it! Just as the
scriptures tell
> > all of us and as they command:
> >
> > 1 John 2: 18 "Young children, it is the last hour, and, just as you have
> > heard that antichrist is coming, even now there have come to be many
> > antichrists."
> >
> > The above dispels the false teaching that antichrist is only one person
who is
> > coming in the future. There were antichrists harassing the 1st Century
> > Christians from the very beginning!
> >
> > 1 John 2: 22,23 "Who is the liar if it is not the one that denies that
> > Jesus is the Christ [or Messiah]? These things I write you about those
who
> > are trying to mislead you!"
> >
> > For a fact Jews deny Jesus is the Christ or Messiah and they dishonor
him with
> > such terms as Xtian and Xtianity.
> >
> > 1 John 4: 2,3 "You gain knowledge of the inspired expression from God by
> > this: Every inspired expression that confesses Jesus Christ as having
come
> > in the flesh originates with God, but every inspired expression that
does
> > not confess Jesus does not originate with God, Furthermore this is the
> > antichrist's inspired expression which you have heard was coming, and
now
> > it is already in the world."
> >
> > ----------
> >
> > We know from the above that those who deny "Jesus Christ as having come
> > in the flesh" do not originate from God and are as Jesus taught in John
8:44-49:
> >
> > John 8:44-48 (English-RSV)
> >
> > 44 (Jesus said) You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do
your
> > father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and has nothing
> > to do with the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he
> > speaks according to his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of
lies.
> > 45 But, because I tell the truth, you do not believe me.
> > 46 Which of you convicts me of sin? If I tell the truth, why do you not
believe
> > me?
> > 47 He who is of God hears the words of God; the reason why you do not
hear
> > them is that you are not of God."
> > 48 The Jews answered him, "Are we not right in saying that you are a
Samaritan
> > and have a demon?"
> > 49 Jesus answered, "I have not a demon; but I honor my Father, and you
> > dishonor me.
> >
> > Who replied to Jesus after he said they were from their father the
devil?
> > Verse 48 plainly says!
> >
> > ----------
> >
> > 2 John 7,10,11 "For many deceivers have gone forth into the world,
persons
> > not confessing Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver
> > and the antichrist. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this
> > teaching, never receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him.
For
> > he that says a greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works."
> >
> > That last sentence which says: "For he that says a greeting to him is a

> > sharer in his wicked works." is pretty strong advice!
> >
> > Merry Christmas to one and all except for the Christ Denying (Christ
Denial)
> > anti-Christs who will receive their portion from Christ's Father.
> >
> >                                               Doc Tavish
> >
> > ---
> > "We are not allowed to drink any wine or grape juice, or any drink
containing
> > wine or grape juice, which has been touched by a non-Jew after the seal
of the
> > bottle has been opened." 
> > Information taken from: Is it Kosher, Rabbi E. Eidlitz and Spice and
Spirit,
> > The Lubavitch Women's Cookbook Publications (July 12, 2001)
> > Schulchan Aruch, Johre Deah, 122: "A Jew is forbidden to drink from a
> > glass of wine which a Gentile has touched, because the touch has made
the
> > wine unclean." Jewish Talmud




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:26 EST 2002
Article: 1293462 of alt.revisionism
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I see Jeffery Brown has found someone else he calls a liar. But by his
behavior I am not so sure if he ever wend to school.

Kurt Knoll.
==========
"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
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> In article , Poor Ol' Gutless
> Scottie "BOOGERMAN" Bradbury (tavish48@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
>
> > Strange that Jeffrey G. Brown still refers to me as "Gutless" especially
> > after I was litigated by one of his pals and I won- also I've endured
death threats
> > postings, telephone calls, and web pages giving out my address etc. with
> > the invitation I be visited with baseball bats! Also I've endured forge
> > cancels, numerous e-mail bombings, posts flooded in my identity among
other criminal
> > acts his allies have waged against me YET he still refers to me as
GUTLESS!
>
> That's because you're still "GUTLESS", lardass. You always have been, and
you
> always will be. I'll keep reminding you of that -- and there is nothing
you can
> do about it.
>
> > I fought a malicious prosecution waged against me in which two people
> > perjured and/or manufactured evidence against me.
>
> There was no evidence presented of perjury or manufacture of evidence. The
> fact-free claims of an obese psychotic is worthless.
>
> > Jeffrey accuses me of forging
> > below YET he finally admits: "I can't really say that Bradbury is
himself
> > responsible for posting the original forgeries."
>
> "BOOGERMAN" Bradbury doesn't like to talk about the fact that he is
responsible
> for continuing to use those forgeries for purposes of smearing others,
even
> after the true author had been revealed.
>
> "BOOGERMAN" Bradbury also doesn't like to talk about the forgeries that he
did
> compose and post -- like the email that he altered and posted as though it
were
> genuine, or the "Marc Rosenblatt" porn images he tried to apss of as
evidence of
> 'Israeli atrocities'.
>
> You're a lying sack of pigshit, Fat Boy. You're going to be reminded of
that
> fact as often as necessary.
>
> > [...deletia...]
>
> > Will Jeffrey now comment on his pal, Yale F. Edeiken, taking an
anonymous post
> > and then seven months later put my NYM to it with a faked digital
signature
> > and then go to a civil court and submit such as sworn testimony? Care to
> > comment Jeffrey?
>
> Yup.
>
> You haven't proven a thing, Cockroach Boy. Since we know that you are a
forger,
> all of the evidence you've presented is quite likely forged.
>
> Get your ass into court and present this so-called "proof". You won't,
because
> you are a coward and a fraud.
>
> You're a lying sack of pigshit, Fat Boy. You're going to be reminded of
that
> fact as often as necessary.
>
> Stay stupid, little insect...
>
> JGB
>
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown                          jeffreygbrown@mailandnews.com
> For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
> to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
> To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study", 1997




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:26 EST 2002
Article: 1293474 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Subject: Re: Forgery Instead of 'Truth Telling' - The M.O. of Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie Bradbury
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This is  a laugh coming from you Jeffery why should anyone trust a Jew like
you.

Kurt Knoll.
=============
"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
news:jeffreygbrown-5B38C0.11212923122001@news.alt.net...
> In article <3c260238_1@binaries.vphos.net>, "Lying Shit Knoll"
>  wrote:
>
> > I see Jeffery Brown has found someone else he calls a liar.
>
> I see that Kurtsie doesn't bother to actually read what is written. The
evidence
> that Scott Bradbury is a liar and a forger is overwhelming. And there is
nearly
> as much evidence that proves that Kurtsie Knoll is a liar, as well.
>
> > But by his behavior I am not so sure if he ever wend to school.
>
> That's a good one, coming from the imbecile who wrote this:
>
>    "This pebble are drained in analyzing writing styles."
>
>             -- From: "Kurt Knoll" 
>             -- Subject: Re: Dresden and Hiroshima
>             -- Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 11:30:23 -0800
>             -- Message-ID: <3bf80c8a_1@binaries.vphos.net>
>
> JGB
>
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown                          jeffreygbrown@mailandnews.com
> For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
> to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
> To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study", 1997




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:27 EST 2002
Article: 1293523 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Maybe you should do an Orphan search who your real parents are you sure
smell  like one here.

Kurt Knoll.
============
"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
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> In article <3c260705_2@binaries.vphos.net>, "Lying Shit Knoll"
>  wrote:
>
> > This is  a laugh coming from you Jeffery why should anyone trust a Jew
like
> > you.
>
> (1) Why do you assume that everyone who points out your lies *must* be a
Jew,
> Kurtsie?
>
> (2) Trust isn't necessary. I've posted the evidence -- something you have
never
> been able to do.
>
> JGB
>
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown                          jeffreygbrown@mailandnews.com
> For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
> to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
> To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study", 1997




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:27 EST 2002
Article: 1293664 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.politics
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Subject: Re: Holocaust debate - Body Disposal
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A Message here to Mathews. Whenever I listen to you I can not help but feel
that anyone must be an idiot
not hating You.

And please go after you body Kenneth McVay. Tell him I am death serious
about seeing a real
gas van and also How many Auschwitz prison guards have been discharged after
the Case.
And don't fuck me around or I have do save Osama Bin Laden for You.

Kurt Knoll.
============
"Fabian"  wrote in message
news:HbqV7.6634$Bu7.2013666361@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
> Philip my boy,
> Kurt's postings are the first I read in the morning, and I have to laugh
so
> loud! I always feel good for the rest of the day.
> Maybe you don't understand his wisdom, the deep philosophy hidden between
> the lines? His hilarious humor? Well, one has to acquire a taste for it,
you
> know.
>
> BTW, did they now find the 12 Million dead bodies or whatever is remaining
> of those allegedly murdered non-combatting Jews and Non-Jews by those
> terrible Nazis? I was reading just yesterday that if you piled all the
bone
> fragments of 12 Million dead bodies into a pyramid, there would be enough
to
> make two pyramids the size of the great pyramid at Giza. We could have it
> all dug up, maybe by some Afghan workers, they come cheap now. Then ship
the
> stuff to Israel, or better the Gaza Strip, pile up those pyramides, call
> them Shoah I and Shoah II, with a little Israel Flag on top.
> Then we have the whole thing guarded by some Israel orthodox settlers to
> make sure that no disrespectful Palastine children throw rocks at our new
> world wonders. Gee, that would be a shame!
> Merry Christmas
> fge
>
> "Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
> news:%hoV7.28683$Sj1.13477605@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > news:3c260fe7_2@binaries.vphos.net...
> >
> > > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
> > > news:CAnV7.28526$Sj1.13450658@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > > > "tom moran"  wrote in message
> > > > news:3c71dfa3.916474786@newsproxy.pacificnet.net...
> > > > >
> > > > > Check out these two treatments on Holocaust body cremations.
> > > > >
> > > > > The revisionist method/Royal Flush
> > > > >
> > > > > 'The Crematoria Ovens of Auschwitz and Birkenau'
> > > > >
> > > > > CARLO MATTOGNO AND FRANCO DEANA
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.codoh.com/found/fndcrema.html
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The way of the Holocaust community/Pair of deuces
> > > > >
> > > > > 'Body Disposal at Auschwitz - The End of Holocaust Denial'
> > > > >
> > > > > John Zimmerman
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/body-disposal/
> > > >
> > > > LOL!
> > > >
> > > > Li'l Tommy playing with less than a full deck.
> >
> > > And I always have been thinking you don't have a full deck upstairs.
> >
> > No, you haven't always been thinking Knoll.
> >
> > You're both a hater and an idiot.
> >
> > --
> > Philip Mathews
> >
> >
> >
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:27 EST 2002
Article: 1293692 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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There is not much of your Brain left I know you only have a limited capacity
now. Keep whatever you have left
or you will not find the entrance to your whiskey bottle.

Kurt Knoll.
==========
"Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
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> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> news:3c264a98_2@binaries.vphos.net...
>
> > "Fabian"  wrote in message
> > news:HbqV7.6634$Bu7.2013666361@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
> > > Philip my boy,
> > > Kurt's postings are the first I read in the morning, and I have to
laugh
> > so
> > > loud! I always feel good for the rest of the day.
> > > Maybe you don't understand his wisdom, the deep philosophy hidden
> between
> > > the lines? His hilarious humor? Well, one has to acquire a taste for
it,
> > you
> > > know.
> > >
> > > BTW, did they now find the 12 Million dead bodies or whatever is
> remaining
> > > of those allegedly murdered non-combatting Jews and Non-Jews by those
> > > terrible Nazis? I was reading just yesterday that if you piled all the
> > bone
> > > fragments of 12 Million dead bodies into a pyramid, there would be
> enough
> > to
> > > make two pyramids the size of the great pyramid at Giza. We could have
> it
> > > all dug up, maybe by some Afghan workers, they come cheap now. Then
ship
> > the
> > > stuff to Israel, or better the Gaza Strip, pile up those pyramides,
call
> > > them Shoah I and Shoah II, with a little Israel Flag on top.
> > > Then we have the whole thing guarded by some Israel orthodox settlers
to
> > > make sure that no disrespectful Palastine children throw rocks at our
> new
> > > world wonders. Gee, that would be a shame!
> > > Merry Christmas
> > > fge
> > >
> > > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
> > > news:%hoV7.28683$Sj1.13477605@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > > news:3c260fe7_2@binaries.vphos.net...
> > > >
> > > > > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
> > > > > news:CAnV7.28526$Sj1.13450658@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > > > > > "tom moran"  wrote in message
> > > > > > news:3c71dfa3.916474786@newsproxy.pacificnet.net...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Check out these two treatments on Holocaust body cremations.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The revisionist method/Royal Flush
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 'The Crematoria Ovens of Auschwitz and Birkenau'
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > CARLO MATTOGNO AND FRANCO DEANA
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://www.codoh.com/found/fndcrema.html
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The way of the Holocaust community/Pair of deuces
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 'Body Disposal at Auschwitz - The End of Holocaust Denial'
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > John Zimmerman
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/body-disposal/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > LOL!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Li'l Tommy playing with less than a full deck.
> > > >
> > > > > And I always have been thinking you don't have a full deck
upstairs.
> > > >
> > > > No, you haven't always been thinking Knoll.
> > > >
> > > > You're both a hater and an idiot.
>
> > A Message here to Mathews. Whenever I listen to you I can not help but
> feel
> > that anyone must be an idiot
> > not hating You.
>
> The feelings of a hate filled, Nazi apologist, antisemite are not
something
> I give two thoughts about.
>
> --
> Philip Mathews
>
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:28 EST 2002
Article: 1293763 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Mathews what kind of Ball Pen did you use on your computer to write this
note. Tell me how
much money is left over of the Holocaust extortion money for the Jehovah
Witnesses.

Kurt Knoll.
=============
"Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
news:3mtV7.30654$Sj1.13635145@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> news:3c266156_1@binaries.vphos.net...
>
> > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
> > news:PdsV7.30404$Sj1.13599048@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > news:3c264a98_2@binaries.vphos.net...
> > >
> > > > "Fabian"  wrote in message
> > > > news:HbqV7.6634$Bu7.2013666361@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
> > > > > Philip my boy,
> > > > > Kurt's postings are the first I read in the morning, and I have to
> > laugh
> > > > so
> > > > > loud! I always feel good for the rest of the day.
> > > > > Maybe you don't understand his wisdom, the deep philosophy hidden
> > > between
> > > > > the lines? His hilarious humor? Well, one has to acquire a taste
for
> > it,
> > > > you
> > > > > know.
> > > > >
> > > > > BTW, did they now find the 12 Million dead bodies or whatever is
> > > remaining
> > > > > of those allegedly murdered non-combatting Jews and Non-Jews by
> those
> > > > > terrible Nazis? I was reading just yesterday that if you piled all
> the
> > > > bone
> > > > > fragments of 12 Million dead bodies into a pyramid, there would be
> > > enough
> > > > to
> > > > > make two pyramids the size of the great pyramid at Giza. We could
> have
> > > it
> > > > > all dug up, maybe by some Afghan workers, they come cheap now.
Then
> > ship
> > > > the
> > > > > stuff to Israel, or better the Gaza Strip, pile up those
pyramides,
> > call
> > > > > them Shoah I and Shoah II, with a little Israel Flag on top.
> > > > > Then we have the whole thing guarded by some Israel orthodox
> settlers
> > to
> > > > > make sure that no disrespectful Palastine children throw rocks at
> our
> > > new
> > > > > world wonders. Gee, that would be a shame!
> > > > > Merry Christmas
> > > > > fge
> > > > >
> > > > > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
> > > > > news:%hoV7.28683$Sj1.13477605@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > > > > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > > > > news:3c260fe7_2@binaries.vphos.net...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:CAnV7.28526$Sj1.13450658@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > > > > > > > "tom moran"  wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:3c71dfa3.916474786@newsproxy.pacificnet.net...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Check out these two treatments on Holocaust body
cremations.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The revisionist method/Royal Flush
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 'The Crematoria Ovens of Auschwitz and Birkenau'
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > CARLO MATTOGNO AND FRANCO DEANA
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > http://www.codoh.com/found/fndcrema.html
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The way of the Holocaust community/Pair of deuces
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 'Body Disposal at Auschwitz - The End of Holocaust Denial'
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > John Zimmerman
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/body-disposal/
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > LOL!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Li'l Tommy playing with less than a full deck.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > And I always have been thinking you don't have a full deck
> > upstairs.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No, you haven't always been thinking Knoll.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You're both a hater and an idiot.
> > >
> > > > A Message here to Mathews. Whenever I listen to you I can not help
but
> > > feel
> > > > that anyone must be an idiot
> > > > not hating You.
> > >
> > > The feelings of a hate filled, Nazi apologist, antisemite are not
> > something
> > > I give two thoughts about.
>
> > There is not much of your Brain left I know you only have a limited
> capacity
> > now. Keep whatever you have left
> > or you will not find the entrance to your whiskey bottle.
>
> If you're not up to discussing the lies of Holocaust Denial, why do you
> bother?
>
> Not that I care, mind you, you only serve to cast deniers in a very
negative
> light.
>
> --
> Philip Mathews
>
>
>
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:28 EST 2002
Article: 1293789 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Tell me how  much money is left over of the Holocaust extortion money for
the Jehovah
Witnesses.

Kurt Knoll.
=========
"Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
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> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> news:3c269995_2@binaries.vphos.net...
>
> > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
> > news:3mtV7.30654$Sj1.13635145@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > news:3c266156_1@binaries.vphos.net...
> > >
> > > > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
> > > > news:PdsV7.30404$Sj1.13599048@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > > > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > > > news:3c264a98_2@binaries.vphos.net...
> > > > >
> > > > > > "Fabian"  wrote in message
> > > > > > news:HbqV7.6634$Bu7.2013666361@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
> > > > > > > Philip my boy,
> > > > > > > Kurt's postings are the first I read in the morning, and I
have
> to
> > > > laugh
> > > > > > so
> > > > > > > loud! I always feel good for the rest of the day.
> > > > > > > Maybe you don't understand his wisdom, the deep philosophy
> hidden
> > > > > between
> > > > > > > the lines? His hilarious humor? Well, one has to acquire a
taste
> > for
> > > > it,
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > know.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > BTW, did they now find the 12 Million dead bodies or whatever
is
> > > > > remaining
> > > > > > > of those allegedly murdered non-combatting Jews and Non-Jews
by
> > > those
> > > > > > > terrible Nazis? I was reading just yesterday that if you piled
> all
> > > the
> > > > > > bone
> > > > > > > fragments of 12 Million dead bodies into a pyramid, there
would
> be
> > > > > enough
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > make two pyramids the size of the great pyramid at Giza. We
> could
> > > have
> > > > > it
> > > > > > > all dug up, maybe by some Afghan workers, they come cheap now.
> > Then
> > > > ship
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > stuff to Israel, or better the Gaza Strip, pile up those
> > pyramides,
> > > > call
> > > > > > > them Shoah I and Shoah II, with a little Israel Flag on top.
> > > > > > > Then we have the whole thing guarded by some Israel orthodox
> > > settlers
> > > > to
> > > > > > > make sure that no disrespectful Palastine children throw rocks
> at
> > > our
> > > > > new
> > > > > > > world wonders. Gee, that would be a shame!
> > > > > > > Merry Christmas
> > > > > > > fge
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:%hoV7.28683$Sj1.13477605@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > > > > > > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:3c260fe7_2@binaries.vphos.net...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in
> message
> > > > > > > > > news:CAnV7.28526$Sj1.13450658@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > > > > > > > > > "tom moran"  wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > > news:3c71dfa3.916474786@newsproxy.pacificnet.net...
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Check out these two treatments on Holocaust body
> > cremations.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > The revisionist method/Royal Flush
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > 'The Crematoria Ovens of Auschwitz and Birkenau'
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > CARLO MATTOGNO AND FRANCO DEANA
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > http://www.codoh.com/found/fndcrema.html
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > The way of the Holocaust community/Pair of deuces
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > 'Body Disposal at Auschwitz - The End of Holocaust
> Denial'
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > John Zimmerman
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/body-disposal/
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > LOL!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Li'l Tommy playing with less than a full deck.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > And I always have been thinking you don't have a full deck
> > > > upstairs.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > No, you haven't always been thinking Knoll.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You're both a hater and an idiot.
> > > > >
> > > > > > A Message here to Mathews. Whenever I listen to you I can not
help
> > but
> > > > > feel
> > > > > > that anyone must be an idiot
> > > > > > not hating You.
> > > > >
> > > > > The feelings of a hate filled, Nazi apologist, antisemite are not
> > > > something
> > > > > I give two thoughts about.
> > >
> > > > There is not much of your Brain left I know you only have a limited
> > > capacity
> > > > now. Keep whatever you have left
> > > > or you will not find the entrance to your whiskey bottle.
> > >
> > > If you're not up to discussing the lies of Holocaust Denial, why do
you
> > > bother?
> > >
> > > Not that I care, mind you, you only serve to cast deniers in a very
> > negative
> > > light.
>
> > Mathews what kind of Ball Pen did you use on your computer to write this
> > note. Tell me how
> > much money is left over of the Holocaust extortion money for the Jehovah
> > Witnesses.
>
> You really don't know a thing about the subject matter, do you?
>
> That doesn't stop you from lying about it though, does it.
>
> What a disgrace you are to your native and adopted countries.
>
> --
> Philip Mathews
>
>
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:28 EST 2002
Article: 1293807 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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My Sister in law is a Jehovah witness. I just wanted to know if there was
any money for the Jehovah Witnesses.

Kurt Knoll.
===========
"Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
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> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> news:3c26b894_2@binaries.vphos.net...
>
> > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
> > news:PxyV7.30919$Sj1.13819167@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > news:3c269995_2@binaries.vphos.net...
> > >
> > > > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
> > > > news:3mtV7.30654$Sj1.13635145@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > > > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > > > news:3c266156_1@binaries.vphos.net...
> > > > >
> > > > > > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
> > > > > > news:PdsV7.30404$Sj1.13599048@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > > > > > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:3c264a98_2@binaries.vphos.net...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Fabian"  wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:HbqV7.6634$Bu7.2013666361@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
> > > > > > > > > Philip my boy,
> > > > > > > > > Kurt's postings are the first I read in the morning, and I
> > have
> > > to
> > > > > > laugh
> > > > > > > > so
> > > > > > > > > loud! I always feel good for the rest of the day.
> > > > > > > > > Maybe you don't understand his wisdom, the deep philosophy
> > > hidden
> > > > > > > between
> > > > > > > > > the lines? His hilarious humor? Well, one has to acquire a
> > taste
> > > > for
> > > > > > it,
> > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > know.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > BTW, did they now find the 12 Million dead bodies or
> whatever
> > is
> > > > > > > remaining
> > > > > > > > > of those allegedly murdered non-combatting Jews and
Non-Jews
> > by
> > > > > those
> > > > > > > > > terrible Nazis? I was reading just yesterday that if you
> piled
> > > all
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > bone
> > > > > > > > > fragments of 12 Million dead bodies into a pyramid, there
> > would
> > > be
> > > > > > > enough
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > make two pyramids the size of the great pyramid at Giza.
We
> > > could
> > > > > have
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > all dug up, maybe by some Afghan workers, they come cheap
> now.
> > > > Then
> > > > > > ship
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > stuff to Israel, or better the Gaza Strip, pile up those
> > > > pyramides,
> > > > > > call
> > > > > > > > > them Shoah I and Shoah II, with a little Israel Flag on
top.
> > > > > > > > > Then we have the whole thing guarded by some Israel
orthodox
> > > > > settlers
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > make sure that no disrespectful Palastine children throw
> rocks
> > > at
> > > > > our
> > > > > > > new
> > > > > > > > > world wonders. Gee, that would be a shame!
> > > > > > > > > Merry Christmas
> > > > > > > > > fge
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in
> message
> > > > > > > > > news:%hoV7.28683$Sj1.13477605@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > > > > > > > > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > > news:3c260fe7_2@binaries.vphos.net...
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in
> > > message
> > > > > > > > > > >
news:CAnV7.28526$Sj1.13450658@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > > > > > > > > > > > "tom moran"  wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > > > > news:3c71dfa3.916474786@newsproxy.pacificnet.net...
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out these two treatments on Holocaust body
> > > > cremations.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The revisionist method/Royal Flush
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 'The Crematoria Ovens of Auschwitz and Birkenau'
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > CARLO MATTOGNO AND FRANCO DEANA
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.codoh.com/found/fndcrema.html
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The way of the Holocaust community/Pair of deuces
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Body Disposal at Auschwitz - The End of Holocaust
> > > Denial'
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > John Zimmerman
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/body-disposal/
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > LOL!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Li'l Tommy playing with less than a full deck.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > And I always have been thinking you don't have a full
> deck
> > > > > > upstairs.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > No, you haven't always been thinking Knoll.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > You're both a hater and an idiot.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > A Message here to Mathews. Whenever I listen to you I can
not
> > help
> > > > but
> > > > > > > feel
> > > > > > > > that anyone must be an idiot
> > > > > > > > not hating You.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The feelings of a hate filled, Nazi apologist, antisemite are
> not
> > > > > > something
> > > > > > > I give two thoughts about.
> > > > >
> > > > > > There is not much of your Brain left I know you only have a
> limited
> > > > > capacity
> > > > > > now. Keep whatever you have left
> > > > > > or you will not find the entrance to your whiskey bottle.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you're not up to discussing the lies of Holocaust Denial, why
do
> > you
> > > > > bother?
> > > > >
> > > > > Not that I care, mind you, you only serve to cast deniers in a
very
> > > > negative
> > > > > light.
> > >
> > > > Mathews what kind of Ball Pen did you use on your computer to write
> this
> > > > note. Tell me how
> > > > much money is left over of the Holocaust extortion money for the
> Jehovah
> > > > Witnesses.
> > >
> > > You really don't know a thing about the subject matter, do you?
> > >
> > > That doesn't stop you from lying about it though, does it.
> > >
> > > What a disgrace you are to your native and adopted countries.
>
> > Tell me how  much money is left over of the Holocaust extortion money
for
> > the Jehovah
> > Witnesses.
>
> What extortion money would that be?
>
> Do you hate members of the Jehovah's Witness as well?
>
> --
> Philip Mathews
>
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:28 EST 2002
Article: 1293849 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Ragland the problems Jews have is of their own making.
Take as an example your holocaust industries Billions of Dollars have been
Extorted from
German industries and tax Payers. From what I did hear even Fictional Jews
can qualify as Slave
Labor. And all this while compensation has been paid once before will there
be a 3rd time.
The there were Jehovah witnesses also in the Concentration Camps, who
pockets their share.
As for the rising anti Semitism in Germany and around the world who is to
lame for it.

It is the Jewish greediness.

Kurt Knoll.
=============
"Michael Ragland"  wrote in message
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> I agree with every world you wrote. But HEY..that's expected. Afterall
> I'm a "NIZKORITE" and a lackey of McVay. I noticed Knoll's thinking
> regarding this subject early on and Mr. Mittleman excellently
> responded to Knoll. The question is will Herr Knoll appreciate your
> points, let alone be able to comprehend them? I think I know the
> answer. Mr. Knoll and other Nazis will have to "live with it" but
> we're going to have to stick around to attempt to insure they don't
> "destroy it". Just out of curiousity, do other revisionists accept the
> concept of so-called free speech which Mr. Knoll does as outlined by
> Mr. McVay? I will give Kurt "credit". He doesn't pussyfoot around and
> play semantic games. He lays out bluntly and crudely what he thinks
> "free speech" is (even if he doesn't realize it or care)....and that
> is in Mr. McVays' words, "Mr. Knoll's idea of "free speech" is not
> based on law,
> be it contract, civil or criminal, but rather on the idea expressed by
> the individual, and the identity and philosophy of the individual in
> question." Incredibly primitive. And dangerous.
>
> MR
> ______________________________________________________
>
>
>
>
>
> kmcvay@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote in message
news:...
> > What Mr. Knoll appears to be suggesting, by holding my comment that
> > one should complain to an ISP about SPAM represents an attack upon
> > free speech, is, in fact, an assertion that Mr. Knoll's concept of
> > "free speech" is this:
> >
> > Mr. Knoll can do as he pleases.
> > Mr. Grosvenor can do as he pleases.
> > Any Nazi asshole can do as _he_ pleases.
> >
> > All of these things, in Mr. Knoll's mind, are simply expressions of
> > "free speech."
> >
> > I, however, cannot complain about Mr. Knoll, regardless of whether or
> > not Mr. Knoll violates the law, be it civil or criminal, and I cannot
> > complain to Mr. Knoll's service provider, or the service provider of
> > any Nazi asshole, should Mr. Knoll or some other person I oppose
> > violate that ISPs Acceptable Use Policy.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thus it is ok for Mr. Knoll to libel and defame with impunity, but not
> > ok for his intended victim to take umbrage and respond legally.
> >
> > In what passes for a mind in Family Knoll, free speech means the right
> > to libel with impunity - indeed, it means the right to do anything,
> > and say anything, with impunity. It also means that those who take
> > umbrage have absolutely no right to respond.
> >
> > Hitler would certainly approve of Mr. Knoll's "free speech."
> >
> > Thus it is ok for Mr. Grosvenor to violate the AUP of provider after
> > provider, but it is not ok for anyone to point this fact out to the
> > provider being victimized. That, in Mr. Knoll's fevered imagination,
> > would be a "violation of Mr. Grosvenor's right to speak freely."
> >
> > Mr. Knoll's concept of free speech, clearly, precludes my complaining
> > about anything to anyone, regardless of provocation.
> >
> > Mr. Knoll seems to suggest that while Mr. Grosvenor has the right to
> > openly thumb his nose at the very contract he entered into when he
> > opened an Internet account, but no one else has the right to complain
> > - or even SUGGEST that someone complain. In fact, I submit that Mr.
> > Knoll's idea of free speech also means that the ISP himself has
> > absolutely no right to complain, no matter how obnoxious Mr.
> > Grosvenor's contract violations may be.
> >
> > In that respect, Mr. Knoll marches lock step with other extremist
> > elements on the net. "Kanuk," for instance, who posts in Canadian
> > newsgroups, and spills tears over the oppression of Palestinians while
> > pimping for an organization that calls for the ethnic cleansing of the
> > North American continent, or complains about "Jewish control of the
> > media" while promulgating the philosophy of the National Alliance,
> > which openly calls for widespread and oppressive censorship of the
> > arts and the media.
> >
> > Free speech, Mr. Knoll, means that when you libel someone, they have
> > the absolute right to sue for damages, and, if the case warrants,
> > bring charges against you for defamatory libel.
> >
> > It does NOT, however, mean that you and your bigoted associates -
> > folks like William Grosvenor - can break the law with impunity.
> >
> > Live with it.




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:28 EST 2002
Article: 1293908 of alt.revisionism
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You are Lying Mathews did include payment for concentration camp Prisoners.
The slave labor compensation now is an invention by the Holocaust
industries.
Both the catholic and Lutheran Church has been blackmailed in the tune of 6
Million Dollars each
by your money hungry holocaust lawyers in the states. Tell me how many slave
labor did the churches have.
What will be your next invention. Would you sue the polish Farmers around
Auschwitz for using
Fertilizer coming from the Auschwitz out houses.

"Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
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> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> news:3c2752e7_2@binaries.vphos.net...
>
> > Ragland the problems Jews have is of their own making.
> > Take as an example your holocaust industries Billions of Dollars have
been
> > Extorted from
> > German industries and tax Payers. From what I did hear even Fictional
Jews
> > can qualify as Slave
> > Labor. And all this while compensation has been paid once before will
> there
> > be a 3rd time.
>
> You are so ignorant of the facts that one must question whether you are
> merely lying.
>
> The reparations negotiated between the post war German government and
Jewish
> organizations, including the state of Israel, were for compensation for
> various forms of serious persecution, the costs of absorbing and
> rehabilitating hundreds of thousands of European Jews in Israel and for
> material claims.
>
> The Slave labor settlement is an entirely different affair, meant to
> compensate those forced to labor by the Nazis during the war. While some
of
> the eligible are Jewish, the majority are not.
>
> > The there were Jehovah witnesses also in the Concentration Camps, who
> > pockets their share.
>
> Did the Jehovah's Witnesses demand reparations from Germany?
>
>
> > As for the rising anti Semitism in Germany and around the world who is
to
> > lame for it.
> >
> > It is the Jewish greediness.
>
> Jewish greediness for slave reparations, the majority of which goes to non
> Jews?
>
> Your mindless hatred of Jews is showing again.
>
> --
> Philip Mathews
>
>
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:29 EST 2002
Article: 1293922 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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So if the Catholic and Lutheran Church were sued for 6 million dollars each
what were the sued for ?.

Kurt Knoll.
===========
"Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
news:T%JV7.32087$Sj1.14159413@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> news:3c27686c_2@binaries.vphos.net...
>
> > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
> > news:2NIV7.31879$Sj1.14101188@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...
> > > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > > news:3c2752e7_2@binaries.vphos.net...
> > >
> > > > Ragland the problems Jews have is of their own making.
> > > > Take as an example your holocaust industries Billions of Dollars
have
> > been
> > > > Extorted from
> > > > German industries and tax Payers. From what I did hear even
Fictional
> > Jews
> > > > can qualify as Slave
> > > > Labor. And all this while compensation has been paid once before
will
> > > there
> > > > be a 3rd time.
> > >
> > > You are so ignorant of the facts that one must question whether you
are
> > > merely lying.
> > >
> > > The reparations negotiated between the post war German government and
> > Jewish
> > > organizations, including the state of Israel, were for compensation
for
> > > various forms of serious persecution, the costs of absorbing and
> > > rehabilitating hundreds of thousands of European Jews in Israel and
for
> > > material claims.
> > >
> > > The Slave labor settlement is an entirely different affair, meant to
> > > compensate those forced to labor by the Nazis during the war. While
some
> > of
> > > the eligible are Jewish, the majority are not.
> > >
> > > > The there were Jehovah witnesses also in the Concentration Camps,
who
> > > > pockets their share.
> > >
> > > Did the Jehovah's Witnesses demand reparations from Germany?
> > >
> > >
> > > > As for the rising anti Semitism in Germany and around the world who
is
> > to
> > > > lame for it.
> > > >
> > > > It is the Jewish greediness.
> > >
> > > Jewish greediness for slave reparations, the majority of which goes to
> non
> > > Jews?
> > >
> > > Your mindless hatred of Jews is showing again.
>
> > You are Lying Mathews did include payment for concentration camp
> Prisoners.
>
> Try again in English.
>
>
> > The slave labor compensation now is an invention by the Holocaust
> > industries.
>
> Slave labor compensation is just payment for slave labor, the majority non
> Jewish.
>
> > Both the catholic and Lutheran Church has been blackmailed in the tune
of
> 6
> > Million Dollars each
> > by your money hungry holocaust lawyers in the states.
>
> This has nothing to do with the slave labor issue we are discussing, even
if
> you could be believed.
>
> The treatment of Jews and slave laborers by Nazis is not an invention.
>
> Your lies are.
>
> --
> Philip Mathews
>
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:29 EST 2002
Article: 1293975 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.politics,us.politics
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Subject: Re: Mr. Knoll's "free speech" means "no speech" for his victims
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This is an open discussion group just as it is in Psychiatric terms. If you
guys to not agree with it then you
should not be here but in the church.

If you but too many restrictions on it then nobody can express him/her self
freely. And then you should
attend a church sermon and agree with the priest and the Bible is never
wrong.

Kurt Knoll.
============
"Daniel Mittleman"  wrote in message
news:c890e66e.0112241309.19682e9b@posting.google.com...
> I hadn't seen McVay's message that you tagged on the end of mine, but
> now that I read it, I agree with it.
>
> I hope that Kurt, if he disagrees with this line of reasoning, takes
> the time and trouble to put together a coherent and thoughtful
> argument.  I would love to know if there is a legitimate other point
> of view on this issue.  I, for one, would welcome hearing it.
>
> danny
>
> Ragland36@webtv.net (Michael Ragland) wrote in message
news:<35a8d44b.0112240152.787bfc61@posting.google.com>...
> > I agree with every world you wrote. But HEY..that's expected. Afterall
> > I'm a "NIZKORITE" and a lackey of McVay. I noticed Knoll's thinking
> > regarding this subject early on and Mr. Mittleman excellently
> > responded to Knoll. The question is will Herr Knoll appreciate your
> > points, let alone be able to comprehend them? I think I know the
> > answer. Mr. Knoll and other Nazis will have to "live with it" but
> > we're going to have to stick around to attempt to insure they don't
> > "destroy it". Just out of curiousity, do other revisionists accept the
> > concept of so-called free speech which Mr. Knoll does as outlined by
> > Mr. McVay? I will give Kurt "credit". He doesn't pussyfoot around and
> > play semantic games. He lays out bluntly and crudely what he thinks
> > "free speech" is (even if he doesn't realize it or care)....and that
> > is in Mr. McVays' words, "Mr. Knoll's idea of "free speech" is not
> > based on law,
> > be it contract, civil or criminal, but rather on the idea expressed by
> > the individual, and the identity and philosophy of the individual in
> > question." Incredibly primitive. And dangerous.
> >
> > MR
> > ______________________________________________________
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > kmcvay@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote in message
news:...
> > > What Mr. Knoll appears to be suggesting, by holding my comment that
> > > one should complain to an ISP about SPAM represents an attack upon
> > > free speech, is, in fact, an assertion that Mr. Knoll's concept of
> > > "free speech" is this:
> > >
> > > Mr. Knoll can do as he pleases.
> > > Mr. Grosvenor can do as he pleases.
> > > Any Nazi asshole can do as _he_ pleases.
> > >
> > > All of these things, in Mr. Knoll's mind, are simply expressions of
> > > "free speech."
> > >
> > > I, however, cannot complain about Mr. Knoll, regardless of whether or
> > > not Mr. Knoll violates the law, be it civil or criminal, and I cannot
> > > complain to Mr. Knoll's service provider, or the service provider of
> > > any Nazi asshole, should Mr. Knoll or some other person I oppose
> > > violate that ISPs Acceptable Use Policy.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thus it is ok for Mr. Knoll to libel and defame with impunity, but not
> > > ok for his intended victim to take umbrage and respond legally.
> > >
> > > In what passes for a mind in Family Knoll, free speech means the right
> > > to libel with impunity - indeed, it means the right to do anything,
> > > and say anything, with impunity. It also means that those who take
> > > umbrage have absolutely no right to respond.
> > >
> > > Hitler would certainly approve of Mr. Knoll's "free speech."
> > >
> > > Thus it is ok for Mr. Grosvenor to violate the AUP of provider after
> > > provider, but it is not ok for anyone to point this fact out to the
> > > provider being victimized. That, in Mr. Knoll's fevered imagination,
> > > would be a "violation of Mr. Grosvenor's right to speak freely."
> > >
> > > Mr. Knoll's concept of free speech, clearly, precludes my complaining
> > > about anything to anyone, regardless of provocation.
> > >
> > > Mr. Knoll seems to suggest that while Mr. Grosvenor has the right to
> > > openly thumb his nose at the very contract he entered into when he
> > > opened an Internet account, but no one else has the right to complain
> > > - or even SUGGEST that someone complain. In fact, I submit that Mr.
> > > Knoll's idea of free speech also means that the ISP himself has
> > > absolutely no right to complain, no matter how obnoxious Mr.
> > > Grosvenor's contract violations may be.
> > >
> > > In that respect, Mr. Knoll marches lock step with other extremist
> > > elements on the net. "Kanuk," for instance, who posts in Canadian
> > > newsgroups, and spills tears over the oppression of Palestinians while
> > > pimping for an organization that calls for the ethnic cleansing of the
> > > North American continent, or complains about "Jewish control of the
> > > media" while promulgating the philosophy of the National Alliance,
> > > which openly calls for widespread and oppressive censorship of the
> > > arts and the media.
> > >
> > > Free speech, Mr. Knoll, means that when you libel someone, they have
> > > the absolute right to sue for damages, and, if the case warrants,
> > > bring charges against you for defamatory libel.
> > >
> > > It does NOT, however, mean that you and your bigoted associates -
> > > folks like William Grosvenor - can break the law with impunity.
> > >
> > > Live with it.




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:30 EST 2002
Article: 1294059 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.politics
References: <20011224181206.27103.00000279@mb-ct.aol.com> 
Subject: Re: Harold Covington yawps agaon
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Joel originally I thought you wish me a very Christmas since I am an Atheist
but I was wrong.
Kurt Knoll.
=========
"Joel Rosenberg"  wrote in message
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> Shit, Harold, you really have never had an original thought in your
> life, have you?
>
>
>
> nationalfront88@aol.com (Harold Covington) writes:
>
> > The "intellectual adventure" known as Holocaust enforcement under threat
of
> > prosecution still maintains it's consistent "quality" with these
pointless,
> > boring, childish obscenities, I see.
> >
> > It's amazing how these "anti-revisionist historians" seem fixated on
sexual
> > projection....
>
> --
> -------------------------------------
> There's a widow in sleepy Chester
>   Who weeps for her only son;
> There's a grave on the Pabeng River,
>   A grave that the Burmans shun,
> And there's Subadar Prag Tewarri
>   Who tells how the work was done.
> -------------------------------------




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:30 EST 2002
Article: 1294062 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Yes money is like dope for the Jews. It really turns you on Mathews ?.

Kurt Knoll.
=========
"Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
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> "Richard Phillips"  wrote in message
> news:3C20C0B8.627D09DF@earthlink.net...
> >
> >
> > Roger wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 23:00:39 GMT, someone claiming to be Richard
> > > Phillips  wrote:
> > >
> > > >> "Joel Rosenberg"  wrote in message
> > > >> news:m2d71dsvqz.fsf@msp-65-25-234-54.mn.rr.com...
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Perhaps you should read one that you haven't colored in first.
> It's
> > > >> > simply a matter of fact that your Reich declared war on the US,
> after
> > > >> > FDR had asked for a declaration of war against the Empire of
Japan.
> > > >
> > > >That is true in a narrow technical sense but it takes no account of
the
> > > >fact that, for much of 1941 and to all intents and purposes, America
> and
> > > >Germany were already AT war. I cite FDR's shoot-to-kill order to the
> Navy
> > > >regarding German subs in our waters.
> > >
> > > Just checking:  would those be the same German subs that had already
> > > been sinking American merchant ships?
> > Yes, they were the same subs that had been sinking American merchant
> ships;
> > just as those merchant ships were the same ships that had been carrying
> food
> > and war materiel to Germany's enemy Britain.
> >
> > Americans seem to believe that when two other countries are at war, we
> should
> > be allowed to make money out of it, without incurring any of the risks
> > involved. ("How dare they attack our ships. We're neutral.") For some
> reason,
> > belligerents never see it that way.
>
> Oh that was our motivation, making money, eh Phillips!
>
> --
> Philip Mathews
>
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:30 EST 2002
Article: 1294121 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek,alt.news.cyprus,soc.culture.usa,alt.culture.armenian,alt.revisionism,can.politics
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T C this is nothing compared to the other Mauthausen Sagas.

The inmates had to run up the 134 Stairs to death in Record speed. Only the
lucky ones that
made it to the top were allowed to jump to tire death from a high rock
cliff.

Prisoners were killed both ways in the Gas Wagons. On the way from Gussen to
Mauthausen others
>from Mauthausen to Gusen.

Sometime when they found prisoner death about half the way then they just
opened the gas wagon and dumped
the death into a ditch.

Kurt Knoll.
======
"T C"  wrote in message
news:3C288245.3020009@earthlink.net...
> Plugging the exhaust kills the engine from back pressure, filling the
> back of the van provides enough volume to avoid that result. Stop trying
> to act educated, you're just a hate monger who denies genocide and a n
> intellectual midget.
>
> Kurt Knoll wrote:
>
> > Don't forget to visit the Mauthausen and daniel Kerens web site.
> >
> > Very Interesting.
> > In Mauthausen the drove 10 Kilometer each way to gas the prisoners. Must
> > have
> > been a hell of a job hey.
> >
> > The only problem I have is believing it. Every mechanic will tell you if
you
> > plug the tailpipe
> > exhaust The engine will stop running. If you connect the exhaust gas to
the
> > rear
> > of the van
> > and connect it to the inside ?. The if then cabin gets full the engine
wall
> > also
> > stop running.
> >
> > So how did they make the rest of the 10 Miles ?.
> >
> > The Holocaust and Holocaust Soap are Trademarks of the Holocaust
Industries
> > Unlimited.
> >
> > Kurt Knoll.
> >
> > "rick"  wrote in message
news:3C234876.6234@iglou.com...
> >
> >> Kurt Knoll wrote:
> >>
> >>> In case you don't know it anyone who is not 100 % convinced is a
> >>> Holohoax Denier.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Here are some photographs for you kurt.
> >> They are 100% convincing to everyone but a moron.
> >>
> >> Denial of of the truth does not make it go away.
> >> The truth remains the same:
> >>
> >> http://motlc.wiesenthal.org/pages/t003/t00315.html
> >> http://motlc.wiesenthal.org/albums/palbum/p00/a0007p2.html
> >> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg01/pg3/pg01358.html
> >> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg16/pg6/pg16677.html
> >> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg16/pg6/pg16675.html
> >> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/pages/t088/t08820.html
> >> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg22/pg0/pg22000.html
> >> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg04/pg2/pg04270.html
> >> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg01/pg3/pg01362.html
> >> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg04/pg5/pg04533.html
> >> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg00/pg8/pg00876.html
> >>
> >> and
> >>
> >> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/
> >> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/
> >> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/iffr/
> >> http://www.holocaust-history.org/19411025-wetzel-no365/
> >> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430129-vergasungskeller/
> >> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430331-inventory/
> >> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430624-inventory/
> >> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?30
> >> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?31
> >> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?32
> >> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?34
> >> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?41
> >> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?37
> >> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?38
> >> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?42
> >> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?44
> >> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?45
> >> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?46
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:31 EST 2002
Article: 1294134 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.politics,us.politics
Subject: Is Osama Bin Lade Death ?
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Maybe the Americans  find out he has been death for some time. This would
then make
the latest Bin Laden Video a real hoax. But then again the American
Propaganda Machine would have to
work overtime to  convince us Bin Laden did die on a much latter Date.

Kurt Knoll.
=============





From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:31 EST 2002
Article: 1294166 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Yes this Tape was Recorded the same day as Adolph Hitler Committed suicide.
The also wanted Video
tape Hitler's suicide but did not have anymore Fuji Tapes.

Kurt Knoll.
============
"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
news:jeffreygbrown-D03440.13152825122001@news.alt.net...
> In article <3c28c03c$1_1@binaries.vphos.net>, "Lying Shit Knoll"
>  wrote:
>
> > Maybe the Americans  find out he has been death for some time. This
would
> > then make the latest Bin Laden Video a real hoax.
>
> Why is that, imbecile? Do you even know when the tape was recorded?
>
> Of course not. Like all bigots, you revel in your own ignorance.
>
> JGB
>
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown                          jeffreygbrown@mailandnews.com
> For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
> to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
> To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study", 1997




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:31 EST 2002
Article: 1294170 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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I did look at some of these photos. Wiesenthal must have been trunk and full
of German Snaps
when he took this photos because they are totally out of Focus. Also I think
some of the
photos were not taken at Auschwitz  at all.

Kurt Knoll.
===========
"T C"  wrote in message
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> The NAZIs even documented these procedures, it was before they were that
> low on fuel. Get an education instead of defending the enemies of all
> humanity.
>
> Werner Knoll wrote:
>
> > If there are no escape holes in the truck, how long will it take to
> > create enough back pressure to stall the engine?
> >
> > Is the killing going to be done while driving or after the truck stopped
> > at his destination?
> >
> > Why did the waste all this fuel when the had not enough to keep the
> > tanks running?
> >
> > Werner Knoll
> >
> > T C wrote:
> >
> >> Plugging the exhaust kills the engine from back pressure, filling the
> >> back of the van provides enough volume to avoid that result. Stop
trying
> >> to act educated, you're just a hate monger who denies genocide and a n
> >> intellectual midget.
> >>
> >> Kurt Knoll wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Don't forget to visit the Mauthausen and daniel Kerens web site.
> >>>
> >>> Very Interesting.
> >>> In Mauthausen the drove 10 Kilometer each way to gas the prisoners.
Must
> >>> have
> >>> been a hell of a job hey.
> >>>
> >>> The only problem I have is believing it. Every mechanic will tell you
if you
> >>> plug the tailpipe
> >>> exhaust The engine will stop running. If you connect the exhaust gas
to the
> >>> rear
> >>> of the van
> >>> and connect it to the inside ?. The if then cabin gets full the engine
wall
> >>> also
> >>> stop running.
> >>>
> >>> So how did they make the rest of the 10 Miles ?.
> >>>
> >>> The Holocaust and Holocaust Soap are Trademarks of the Holocaust
Industries
> >>> Unlimited.
> >>>
> >>> Kurt Knoll.
> >>>
> >>> "rick"  wrote in message
news:3C234876.6234@iglou.com...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Kurt Knoll wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> In case you don't know it anyone who is not 100 % convinced is a
> >>>>> Holohoax Denier.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Here are some photographs for you kurt.
> >>>> They are 100% convincing to everyone but a moron.
> >>>>
> >>>> Denial of of the truth does not make it go away.
> >>>> The truth remains the same:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.org/pages/t003/t00315.html
> >>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.org/albums/palbum/p00/a0007p2.html
> >>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg01/pg3/pg01358.html
> >>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg16/pg6/pg16677.html
> >>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg16/pg6/pg16675.html
> >>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/pages/t088/t08820.html
> >>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg22/pg0/pg22000.html
> >>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg04/pg2/pg04270.html
> >>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg01/pg3/pg01362.html
> >>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg04/pg5/pg04533.html
> >>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg00/pg8/pg00876.html
> >>>>
> >>>> and
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/
> >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/
> >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/iffr/
> >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/19411025-wetzel-no365/
> >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430129-vergasungskeller/
> >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430331-inventory/
> >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430624-inventory/
> >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?30
> >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?31
> >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?32
> >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?34
> >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?41
> >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?37
> >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?38
> >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?42
> >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?44
> >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?45
> >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?46
> >>>
>




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Dont hav eto just visit the official Mauthausen web site.

Another Continuing Holocaust Saga

Let your imagination run wild

500 hundred committed mass suicide after liberation
By Lynching them self's.


 By Albert J Kosiek.

Bellow here from a Kz Mauthausen Web Site.

Experiments at Mauthausen

        Among many other speudo-scientific "experiments", SS doctors removed
      organs from living people, bottled and stored them on shelves in the
      dissecting room. They skinned prisoners with interesting tattoos and
sold
      them as book covers, gloves, luggage and lamp shades. One physician
      selected two prisoners with near perfect teeth and used their heads as
      paperweights on his desk. One questions the motivation of such acts

Mauthausen - Gassing took place in Railroad Cars


      There were many different ways to kill prisoners at Mauthausen and at
      first gassing was not needed. But as more and more prisoners were
      transported to the camp, it became necessary. The SS even converted a
      railroad car into a gas chamber that ran between Mauthausen and Gusen,
its
      infamous sub-camp. In the Mauthausen chamber, they could murder 120
people
      at one time. Witnesses estimate that as many as 10,000 prisoners were
      gassed in this room between 1942 and 1945.

Mauthausen - The Stairs of Death  The Stairs of Death




        Prisoners were forced to climb the 186 steps of the Wiener Graben
with
      large blocks of granite on their backs. Often the blocks would fall,
      crushing limbs and bodies of those following, sometimes killing. The
SS
      guards invented competitions betting on which prisoner would make it
to
      the top first. Those surviving the ordeal would then be forced to jump
      from the edge of the quarry to their death below. This particular spot
at
      the edge of the quarry was known The Parachute Jump.
      in 1944 ....The SS led fourty-seven Dutch, American, and English
      officers and flyers, barefooted, to the bottom. On their first journey
up
      the 186 steps they forced the men to carry twenty-five kilogram stones
on
      their backs. On each successive journey they increased the weight of
the
      load. If a prisoner fell, he was beaten. All fourty-seven died of the
      treatment”. [1]






  Kurt Knoll.
==========



"T C"  wrote in message
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> I see you are infatuated with this, take your illness elsewhere.
>
> Kurt Knoll wrote:
>
> > T C this is nothing compared to the other Mauthausen Sagas.
> >
> > The inmates had to run up the 134 Stairs to death in Record speed. Only
the
> > lucky ones that
> > made it to the top were allowed to jump to tire death from a high rock
> > cliff.
> >
> > Prisoners were killed both ways in the Gas Wagons. On the way from
Gussen to
> > Mauthausen others
> > from Mauthausen to Gusen.
> >
> > Sometime when they found prisoner death about half the way then they
just
> > opened the gas wagon and dumped
> > the death into a ditch.
> >
> > Kurt Knoll.
> > ======
> > "T C"  wrote in message
> > news:3C288245.3020009@earthlink.net...
> >
> >> Plugging the exhaust kills the engine from back pressure, filling the
> >> back of the van provides enough volume to avoid that result. Stop
trying
> >> to act educated, you're just a hate monger who denies genocide and a n
> >> intellectual midget.
> >>
> >> Kurt Knoll wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Don't forget to visit the Mauthausen and daniel Kerens web site.
> >>>
> >>> Very Interesting.
> >>> In Mauthausen the drove 10 Kilometer each way to gas the prisoners.
Must
> >>> have
> >>> been a hell of a job hey.
> >>>
> >>> The only problem I have is believing it. Every mechanic will tell you
if
> >>
> > you
> >
> >>> plug the tailpipe
> >>> exhaust The engine will stop running. If you connect the exhaust gas
to
> >>
> > the
> >
> >>> rear
> >>> of the van
> >>> and connect it to the inside ?. The if then cabin gets full the engine
> >>
> > wall
> >
> >>> also
> >>> stop running.
> >>>
> >>> So how did they make the rest of the 10 Miles ?.
> >>>
> >>> The Holocaust and Holocaust Soap are Trademarks of the Holocaust
> >>
> > Industries
> >
> >>> Unlimited.
> >>>
> >>> Kurt Knoll.
> >>>
> >>> "rick"  wrote in message
> >>
> > news:3C234876.6234@iglou.com...
> >
> >>>> Kurt Knoll wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> In case you don't know it anyone who is not 100 % convinced is a
> >>>>> Holohoax Denier.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Here are some photographs for you kurt.
> >>>> They are 100% convincing to everyone but a moron.
> >>>>
> >>>> Denial of of the truth does not make it go away.
> >>>> The truth remains the same:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.org/pages/t003/t00315.html
> >>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.org/albums/palbum/p00/a0007p2.html
> >>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg01/pg3/pg01358.html
> >>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg16/pg6/pg16677.html
> >>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg16/pg6/pg16675.html
> >>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/pages/t088/t08820.html
> >>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg22/pg0/pg22000.html
> >>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg04/pg2/pg04270.html
> >>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg01/pg3/pg01362.html
> >>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg04/pg5/pg04533.html
> >>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg00/pg8/pg00876.html
> >>>>
> >>>> and
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/
> >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/
> >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/iffr/
> >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/19411025-wetzel-no365/
> >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430129-vergasungskeller/
> >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430331-inventory/
> >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430624-inventory/
> >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?30
> >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?31
> >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?32
> >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?34
> >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?41
> >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?37
> >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?38
> >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?42
> >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?44
> >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?45
> >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?46
> >>>
>




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Nothing new to me. My two older brothers and others I knew were forced to
see a movie about the German
war crimes in Nuremberg. Some of the people present did recognize them
self's in the movie. The scene
was about people fleeing after an air raid by the Allied. Including in the
growth were also couple of Jews
with a yellow star of David. But the people were made believe this were all
Jews.
The Germans that recognized them self's and stood up and objected were
imminently Arrested by the Americans.

Also in the Nurembergs Monkey Trial anyone's Testimonial was taken as the
truth without verification.


Kurt Knoll.

"ptolemy"  wrote in message
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> alot of the photos used at nuremburg were faked by the soviets and allies.
> www.heretical.org what can i say
> visit sites like www.codoh.com and decide for yourself.
>
> www.ihr.org
>
>
>
>
> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
news:<3c28da2d_1@binaries.vphos.net>...
> > I did look at some of these photos. Wiesenthal must have been trunk and
full
> > of German Snaps
> > when he took this photos because they are totally out of Focus. Also I
think
> > some of the
> > photos were not taken at Auschwitz  at all.
> >
> > Kurt Knoll.
> > ===========
> > "T C"  wrote in message
> > news:3C28AF7E.3080906@earthlink.net...
> > > The NAZIs even documented these procedures, it was before they were
that
> > > low on fuel. Get an education instead of defending the enemies of all
> > > humanity.
> > >
> > > Werner Knoll wrote:
> > >
> > > > If there are no escape holes in the truck, how long will it take to
> > > > create enough back pressure to stall the engine?
> > > >
> > > > Is the killing going to be done while driving or after the truck
stopped
> > > > at his destination?
> > > >
> > > > Why did the waste all this fuel when the had not enough to keep the
> > > > tanks running?
> > > >
> > > > Werner Knoll
> > > >
> > > > T C wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Plugging the exhaust kills the engine from back pressure, filling
the
> > > >> back of the van provides enough volume to avoid that result. Stop
> >  trying
> > > >> to act educated, you're just a hate monger who denies genocide and
a n
> > > >> intellectual midget.
> > > >>
> > > >> Kurt Knoll wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> Don't forget to visit the Mauthausen and daniel Kerens web site.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Very Interesting.
> > > >>> In Mauthausen the drove 10 Kilometer each way to gas the
prisoners.
> >  Must
> > > >>> have
> > > >>> been a hell of a job hey.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> The only problem I have is believing it. Every mechanic will tell
you
> >  if you
> > > >>> plug the tailpipe
> > > >>> exhaust The engine will stop running. If you connect the exhaust
gas
> >  to the
> > > >>> rear
> > > >>> of the van
> > > >>> and connect it to the inside ?. The if then cabin gets full the
engine
> >  wall
> > > >>> also
> > > >>> stop running.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> So how did they make the rest of the 10 Miles ?.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> The Holocaust and Holocaust Soap are Trademarks of the Holocaust
> >  Industries
> > > >>> Unlimited.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Kurt Knoll.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> "rick"  wrote in message
> >  news:3C234876.6234@iglou.com...
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Kurt Knoll wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> In case you don't know it anyone who is not 100 % convinced is a
> > > >>>>> Holohoax Denier.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Here are some photographs for you kurt.
> > > >>>> They are 100% convincing to everyone but a moron.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Denial of of the truth does not make it go away.
> > > >>>> The truth remains the same:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.org/pages/t003/t00315.html
> > > >>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.org/albums/palbum/p00/a0007p2.html
> > > >>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg01/pg3/pg01358.html
> > > >>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg16/pg6/pg16677.html
> > > >>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg16/pg6/pg16675.html
> > > >>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/pages/t088/t08820.html
> > > >>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg22/pg0/pg22000.html
> > > >>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg04/pg2/pg04270.html
> > > >>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg01/pg3/pg01362.html
> > > >>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg04/pg5/pg04533.html
> > > >>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg00/pg8/pg00876.html
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> and
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/
> > > >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/
> > > >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/iffr/
> > > >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/19411025-wetzel-no365/
> > > >>>>
http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430129-vergasungskeller/
> > > >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430331-inventory/
> > > >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430624-inventory/
> > > >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?30
> > > >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?31
> > > >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?32
> > > >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?34
> > > >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?41
> > > >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?37
> > > >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?38
> > > >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?42
> > > >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?44
> > > >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?45
> > > >>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?46
> > > >>>
> > >




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:32 EST 2002
Article: 1294196 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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T C wants to tell you they First Cremated the Bodies and then made soap out
of the Ashes.
This was a brand new process nobody has been able to copy this Today.

Kurt Knoll.
===
"T C"  wrote in message
news:3C28E9D9.4030505@earthlink.net...
> I don't have time to teach you basic chemistry and physics, soap is fat
> and lye, fat from rendering. Get a high school education before you try
> correcting people again.
>
> Werner Knoll wrote:
>
> > You claim to be the expert on back pressure and I like to know more
> > about it? While you at it... Explain to me how the Nazis made soap from
> > Jewish victims. Will you?
> >
> >
> > Werner Knoll
> > Jewish Organizations have made the deeds of the Nazis into a shield
> > against criticism!
> > Doug Collins
> >
> > T C wrote:
> >
> >> The NAZIs even documented these procedures, it was before they were
that
> >> low on fuel. Get an education instead of defending the enemies of all
> >> humanity.
> >>
> >> Werner Knoll wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> If there are no escape holes in the truck, how long will it take to
> >>> create enough back pressure to stall the engine?
> >>>
> >>> Is the killing going to be done while driving or after the truck
stopped
> >>> at his destination?
> >>>
> >>> Why did the waste all this fuel when the had not enough to keep the
> >>> tanks running?
> >>>
> >>> Werner Knoll
> >>>
> >>> T C wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Plugging the exhaust kills the engine from back pressure, filling the
> >>>> back of the van provides enough volume to avoid that result. Stop
trying
> >>>> to act educated, you're just a hate monger who denies genocide and a
n
> >>>> intellectual midget.
> >>>>
> >>>> Kurt Knoll wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Don't forget to visit the Mauthausen and daniel Kerens web site.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Very Interesting.
> >>>>> In Mauthausen the drove 10 Kilometer each way to gas the prisoners.
Must
> >>>>> have
> >>>>> been a hell of a job hey.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The only problem I have is believing it. Every mechanic will tell
you if you
> >>>>> plug the tailpipe
> >>>>> exhaust The engine will stop running. If you connect the exhaust gas
to the
> >>>>> rear
> >>>>> of the van
> >>>>> and connect it to the inside ?. The if then cabin gets full the
engine wall
> >>>>> also
> >>>>> stop running.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So how did they make the rest of the 10 Miles ?.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The Holocaust and Holocaust Soap are Trademarks of the Holocaust
Industries
> >>>>> Unlimited.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Kurt Knoll.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "rick"  wrote in message
news:3C234876.6234@iglou.com...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Kurt Knoll wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> In case you don't know it anyone who is not 100 % convinced is a
> >>>>>>> Holohoax Denier.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Here are some photographs for you kurt.
> >>>>>> They are 100% convincing to everyone but a moron.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Denial of of the truth does not make it go away.
> >>>>>> The truth remains the same:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.org/pages/t003/t00315.html
> >>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.org/albums/palbum/p00/a0007p2.html
> >>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg01/pg3/pg01358.html
> >>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg16/pg6/pg16677.html
> >>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg16/pg6/pg16675.html
> >>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/pages/t088/t08820.html
> >>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg22/pg0/pg22000.html
> >>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg04/pg2/pg04270.html
> >>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg01/pg3/pg01362.html
> >>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg04/pg5/pg04533.html
> >>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg00/pg8/pg00876.html
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/
> >>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/
> >>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/iffr/
> >>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/19411025-wetzel-no365/
> >>>>>>
http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430129-vergasungskeller/
> >>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430331-inventory/
> >>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430624-inventory/
> >>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?30
> >>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?31
> >>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?32
> >>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?34
> >>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?41
> >>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?37
> >>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?38
> >>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?42
> >>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?44
> >>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?45
> >>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?46
> >>>>>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:32 EST 2002
Article: 1294197 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Now this explains it in full. They flooded the Archive with Wiesenthal
Whiskey and this is why they are so Blurry.

Kurt Knoll.
===========
"T C"  wrote in message
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> They have an archive, moron!
>
> Kurt Knoll wrote:
>
> > I did look at some of these photos. Wiesenthal must have been trunk and
full
> > of German Snaps
> > when he took this photos because they are totally out of Focus. Also I
think
> > some of the
> > photos were not taken at Auschwitz  at all.
> >
> > Kurt Knoll.
> > ===========
> > "T C"  wrote in message
> > news:3C28AF7E.3080906@earthlink.net...
> >
> >> The NAZIs even documented these procedures, it was before they were
that
> >> low on fuel. Get an education instead of defending the enemies of all
> >> humanity.
> >>
> >> Werner Knoll wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> If there are no escape holes in the truck, how long will it take to
> >>> create enough back pressure to stall the engine?
> >>>
> >>> Is the killing going to be done while driving or after the truck
stopped
> >>> at his destination?
> >>>
> >>> Why did the waste all this fuel when the had not enough to keep the
> >>> tanks running?
> >>>
> >>> Werner Knoll
> >>>
> >>> T C wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Plugging the exhaust kills the engine from back pressure, filling the
> >>>> back of the van provides enough volume to avoid that result. Stop
> >>>
> > trying
> >
> >>>> to act educated, you're just a hate monger who denies genocide and a
n
> >>>> intellectual midget.
> >>>>
> >>>> Kurt Knoll wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Don't forget to visit the Mauthausen and daniel Kerens web site.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Very Interesting.
> >>>>> In Mauthausen the drove 10 Kilometer each way to gas the prisoners.
> >>>>
> > Must
> >
> >>>>> have
> >>>>> been a hell of a job hey.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The only problem I have is believing it. Every mechanic will tell
you
> >>>>
> > if you
> >
> >>>>> plug the tailpipe
> >>>>> exhaust The engine will stop running. If you connect the exhaust gas
> >>>>
> > to the
> >
> >>>>> rear
> >>>>> of the van
> >>>>> and connect it to the inside ?. The if then cabin gets full the
engine
> >>>>
> > wall
> >
> >>>>> also
> >>>>> stop running.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So how did they make the rest of the 10 Miles ?.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The Holocaust and Holocaust Soap are Trademarks of the Holocaust
> >>>>
> > Industries
> >
> >>>>> Unlimited.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Kurt Knoll.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "rick"  wrote in message
> >>>>
> > news:3C234876.6234@iglou.com...
> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Kurt Knoll wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> In case you don't know it anyone who is not 100 % convinced is a
> >>>>>>> Holohoax Denier.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Here are some photographs for you kurt.
> >>>>>> They are 100% convincing to everyone but a moron.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Denial of of the truth does not make it go away.
> >>>>>> The truth remains the same:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.org/pages/t003/t00315.html
> >>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.org/albums/palbum/p00/a0007p2.html
> >>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg01/pg3/pg01358.html
> >>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg16/pg6/pg16677.html
> >>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg16/pg6/pg16675.html
> >>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/pages/t088/t08820.html
> >>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg22/pg0/pg22000.html
> >>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg04/pg2/pg04270.html
> >>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg01/pg3/pg01362.html
> >>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg04/pg5/pg04533.html
> >>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg00/pg8/pg00876.html
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/
> >>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/
> >>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/iffr/
> >>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/19411025-wetzel-no365/
> >>>>>>
http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430129-vergasungskeller/
> >>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430331-inventory/
> >>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430624-inventory/
> >>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?30
> >>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?31
> >>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?32
> >>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?34
> >>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?41
> >>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?37
> >>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?38
> >>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?42
> >>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?44
> >>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?45
> >>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?46
> >>>>>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:32 EST 2002
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You are nutso my friend the did recognize them selves fleeing after and air
Attack ?.
I could be your Jewish friend were on a trip to Mc Donald's.

Kurt Knoll.
==============
"Joel Rosenberg"  wrote in message
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> "Kurt Knoll"  writes:
>
> > Nothing new to me. My two older brothers and others I knew were forced
to
> > see a movie about the German
> > war crimes in Nuremberg. Some of the people present did recognize them
> > self's in the movie. The scene
> > was about people fleeing after an air raid by the Allied. Including in
the
> > growth were also couple of Jews
> > with a yellow star of David. But the people were made believe this were
all
> > Jews.
> > The Germans that recognized them self's and stood up and objected were
> > imminently Arrested by the Americans.
> >
>
> Well, good -- criminals are *supposed* to be arrested, and when they
> are considerate enough to identify themselves, that's all to the good.
>
> These ubermenschen of yours weren't too smart, were they?
> --
> -------------------------------------
> There's a widow in sleepy Chester
>   Who weeps for her only son;
> There's a grave on the Pabeng River,
>   A grave that the Burmans shun,
> And there's Subadar Prag Tewarri
>   Who tells how the work was done.
> -------------------------------------
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:33 EST 2002
Article: 1294219 of alt.revisionism
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Great I like Negatives can I see them. Were they all on Kodak film the would
be nice I do have an
Kodak Enlarger.

Kurt Knoll.
============
"T C"  wrote in message
news:3C290E06.5010502@earthlink.net...
> Exactly how much lead paint did your parents feed you? The negatives are
> on record and can't be faked, moron.
>
> ptolemy wrote:
>
> > alot of the photos used at nuremburg were faked by the soviets and
allies.
> > www.heretical.org what can i say
> > visit sites like www.codoh.com and decide for yourself.
> >
> > www.ihr.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
news:<3c28da2d_1@binaries.vphos.net>...
> >
> >> I did look at some of these photos. Wiesenthal must have been trunk and
full
> >> of German Snaps
> >> when he took this photos because they are totally out of Focus. Also I
think
> >> some of the
> >> photos were not taken at Auschwitz  at all.
> >>
> >> Kurt Knoll.
> >> ===========
> >> "T C"  wrote in message
> >> news:3C28AF7E.3080906@earthlink.net...
> >>
> >>> The NAZIs even documented these procedures, it was before they were
that
> >>> low on fuel. Get an education instead of defending the enemies of all
> >>> humanity.
> >>>
> >>> Werner Knoll wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> If there are no escape holes in the truck, how long will it take to
> >>>> create enough back pressure to stall the engine?
> >>>>
> >>>> Is the killing going to be done while driving or after the truck
stopped
> >>>> at his destination?
> >>>>
> >>>> Why did the waste all this fuel when the had not enough to keep the
> >>>> tanks running?
> >>>>
> >>>> Werner Knoll
> >>>>
> >>>> T C wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Plugging the exhaust kills the engine from back pressure, filling
the
> >>>>> back of the van provides enough volume to avoid that result. Stop
> >>>>
> >>  trying
> >>
> >>>>> to act educated, you're just a hate monger who denies genocide and a
n
> >>>>> intellectual midget.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Kurt Knoll wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Don't forget to visit the Mauthausen and daniel Kerens web site.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Very Interesting.
> >>>>>> In Mauthausen the drove 10 Kilometer each way to gas the prisoners.
> >>>>>
> >>  Must
> >>
> >>>>>> have
> >>>>>> been a hell of a job hey.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The only problem I have is believing it. Every mechanic will tell
you
> >>>>>
> >>  if you
> >>
> >>>>>> plug the tailpipe
> >>>>>> exhaust The engine will stop running. If you connect the exhaust
gas
> >>>>>
> >>  to the
> >>
> >>>>>> rear
> >>>>>> of the van
> >>>>>> and connect it to the inside ?. The if then cabin gets full the
engine
> >>>>>
> >>  wall
> >>
> >>>>>> also
> >>>>>> stop running.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So how did they make the rest of the 10 Miles ?.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The Holocaust and Holocaust Soap are Trademarks of the Holocaust
> >>>>>
> >>  Industries
> >>
> >>>>>> Unlimited.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Kurt Knoll.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "rick"  wrote in message
> >>>>>
> >>  news:3C234876.6234@iglou.com...
> >>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Kurt Knoll wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> In case you don't know it anyone who is not 100 % convinced is a
> >>>>>>>> Holohoax Denier.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Here are some photographs for you kurt.
> >>>>>>> They are 100% convincing to everyone but a moron.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Denial of of the truth does not make it go away.
> >>>>>>> The truth remains the same:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.org/pages/t003/t00315.html
> >>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.org/albums/palbum/p00/a0007p2.html
> >>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg01/pg3/pg01358.html
> >>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg16/pg6/pg16677.html
> >>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg16/pg6/pg16675.html
> >>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/pages/t088/t08820.html
> >>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg22/pg0/pg22000.html
> >>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg04/pg2/pg04270.html
> >>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg01/pg3/pg01362.html
> >>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg04/pg5/pg04533.html
> >>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg00/pg8/pg00876.html
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/
> >>>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/
> >>>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/iffr/
> >>>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/19411025-wetzel-no365/
> >>>>>>>
http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430129-vergasungskeller/
> >>>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430331-inventory/
> >>>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430624-inventory/
> >>>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?30
> >>>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?31
> >>>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?32
> >>>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?34
> >>>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?41
> >>>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?37
> >>>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?38
> >>>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?42
> >>>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?44
> >>>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?45
> >>>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?46
> >>>>>>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:33 EST 2002
Article: 1294220 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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To Attack you would be a waste of time but it does not change the fact the
Movie was shown
to all Germans in my home town to Germans over the age of 16.

Kurt Knoll.
=================
"T C"  wrote in message
news:3C291001.1050304@earthlink.net...
> If you aren't a pre pubescent punk you're retarded, either way I'll
> forgo my vows of non-violence and invite you to attack me, the world is
> better off without you, you disgrace all of creation.
>
> Kurt Knoll wrote:
>
> > You are nutso my friend the did recognize them selves fleeing after and
air
> > Attack ?.
> > I could be your Jewish friend were on a trip to Mc Donald's.
> >
> > Kurt Knoll.
> > ==============
> > "Joel Rosenberg"  wrote in message
> > news:m2n1077xg5.fsf@msp-65-25-234-54.mn.rr.com...
> >
> >> "Kurt Knoll"  writes:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Nothing new to me. My two older brothers and others I knew were forced
> >>
> > to
> >
> >>> see a movie about the German
> >>> war crimes in Nuremberg. Some of the people present did recognize them
> >>> self's in the movie. The scene
> >>> was about people fleeing after an air raid by the Allied. Including in
> >>
> > the
> >
> >>> growth were also couple of Jews
> >>> with a yellow star of David. But the people were made believe this
were
> >>
> > all
> >
> >>> Jews.
> >>> The Germans that recognized them self's and stood up and objected were
> >>> imminently Arrested by the Americans.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Well, good -- criminals are *supposed* to be arrested, and when they
> >> are considerate enough to identify themselves, that's all to the good.
> >>
> >> These ubermenschen of yours weren't too smart, were they?
> >> --
> >> -------------------------------------
> >> There's a widow in sleepy Chester
> >>   Who weeps for her only son;
> >> There's a grave on the Pabeng River,
> >>   A grave that the Burmans shun,
> >> And there's Subadar Prag Tewarri
> >>   Who tells how the work was done.
> >> -------------------------------------
> >>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:34 EST 2002
Article: 1294256 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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You just said a lot of nothing.

Kurt Knoll.
========
"T C"  wrote in message
news:3C293369.8070901@earthlink.net...
> If you had shit for brains it would be an improvement.
>
> Kurt Knoll wrote:
>
> > Great I like Negatives can I see them. Were they all on Kodak film the
would
> > be nice I do have an
> > Kodak Enlarger.
> >
> > Kurt Knoll.
> > ============
> > "T C"  wrote in message
> > news:3C290E06.5010502@earthlink.net...
> >
> >> Exactly how much lead paint did your parents feed you? The negatives
are
> >> on record and can't be faked, moron.
> >>
> >> ptolemy wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> alot of the photos used at nuremburg were faked by the soviets and
> >>
> > allies.
> >
> >>> www.heretical.org what can i say
> >>> visit sites like www.codoh.com and decide for yourself.
> >>>
> >>> www.ihr.org
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> >>
> > news:<3c28da2d_1@binaries.vphos.net>...
> >
> >>>> I did look at some of these photos. Wiesenthal must have been trunk
and
> >>>
> > full
> >
> >>>> of German Snaps
> >>>> when he took this photos because they are totally out of Focus. Also
I
> >>>
> > think
> >
> >>>> some of the
> >>>> photos were not taken at Auschwitz  at all.
> >>>>
> >>>> Kurt Knoll.
> >>>> ===========
> >>>> "T C"  wrote in message
> >>>> news:3C28AF7E.3080906@earthlink.net...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> The NAZIs even documented these procedures, it was before they were
> >>>>
> > that
> >
> >>>>> low on fuel. Get an education instead of defending the enemies of
all
> >>>>> humanity.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Werner Knoll wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> If there are no escape holes in the truck, how long will it take to
> >>>>>> create enough back pressure to stall the engine?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Is the killing going to be done while driving or after the truck
> >>>>>
> > stopped
> >
> >>>>>> at his destination?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Why did the waste all this fuel when the had not enough to keep the
> >>>>>> tanks running?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Werner Knoll
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> T C wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Plugging the exhaust kills the engine from back pressure, filling
> >>>>>>
> > the
> >
> >>>>>>> back of the van provides enough volume to avoid that result. Stop
> >>>>>>
> >>>>  trying
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> to act educated, you're just a hate monger who denies genocide and
a
> >>>>>>
> > n
> >
> >>>>>>> intellectual midget.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Kurt Knoll wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Don't forget to visit the Mauthausen and daniel Kerens web site.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Very Interesting.
> >>>>>>>> In Mauthausen the drove 10 Kilometer each way to gas the
prisoners.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>  Must
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>> have
> >>>>>>>> been a hell of a job hey.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The only problem I have is believing it. Every mechanic will tell
> >>>>>>>
> > you
> >
> >>>>  if you
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>> plug the tailpipe
> >>>>>>>> exhaust The engine will stop running. If you connect the exhaust
> >>>>>>>
> > gas
> >
> >>>>  to the
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>> rear
> >>>>>>>> of the van
> >>>>>>>> and connect it to the inside ?. The if then cabin gets full the
> >>>>>>>
> > engine
> >
> >>>>  wall
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>> also
> >>>>>>>> stop running.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> So how did they make the rest of the 10 Miles ?.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The Holocaust and Holocaust Soap are Trademarks of the Holocaust
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>  Industries
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>> Unlimited.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Kurt Knoll.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> "rick"  wrote in message
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>  news:3C234876.6234@iglou.com...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Kurt Knoll wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> In case you don't know it anyone who is not 100 % convinced is
a
> >>>>>>>>>> Holohoax Denier.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Here are some photographs for you kurt.
> >>>>>>>>> They are 100% convincing to everyone but a moron.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Denial of of the truth does not make it go away.
> >>>>>>>>> The truth remains the same:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.org/pages/t003/t00315.html
> >>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.org/albums/palbum/p00/a0007p2.html
> >>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg01/pg3/pg01358.html
> >>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg16/pg6/pg16677.html
> >>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg16/pg6/pg16675.html
> >>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/pages/t088/t08820.html
> >>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg22/pg0/pg22000.html
> >>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg04/pg2/pg04270.html
> >>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg01/pg3/pg01362.html
> >>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg04/pg5/pg04533.html
> >>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg00/pg8/pg00876.html
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/
> >>>>>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/
> >>>>>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/iffr/
> >>>>>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/19411025-wetzel-no365/
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> > http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430129-vergasungskeller/
> >
> >>>>>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430331-inventory/
> >>>>>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430624-inventory/
> >>>>>>>>>
http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?30
> >>>>>>>>>
http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?31
> >>>>>>>>>
http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?32
> >>>>>>>>>
http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?34
> >>>>>>>>>
http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?41
> >>>>>>>>>
http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?37
> >>>>>>>>>
http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?38
> >>>>>>>>>
http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?42
> >>>>>>>>>
http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?44
> >>>>>>>>>
http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?45
> >>>>>>>>>
http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?46
> >>>>>>>>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:34 EST 2002
Article: 1294263 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Israelis took the Palestinian land but no one listens when they complained.
What choice do the Palestinians
thane with little they have. It is your Jewish thieves who call this very
conveniently Terrorism when in fact they
are the perpetrators.
Give yourself a break the world is not stupid they can see every day what is
going on.

Kurt Knoll.

"Dennis G."  wrote in message
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> "Alex Vange"  wrote:
> >http://stormfront.org
> >www.spearhead-uk.com
>
> >> "Alex Vange"  wrote:
> (...)
> >.....You imbeciles, talking about "exterminating" those who are to blame
and
> >those who "support" terrorist. Supporters of terror? You brain-dead
> >bastards,
> >you have supported terrorists every time you voted to send Israel our
money,
> >our tanks, our helicopter gunships, rockets etc. etc.
> >
> (...)
>
> Don't hold back! Tell us how you feel about America. Get it out of
> your system before it poisons your mind..... Whoops.
>
> You call Americans names because they act against terrorists to
> protect innocents. But you define a terrorist as someone you don't
> like and a non-terrorist as someone you like. Calling Americans names
> is evidence you do not like them. You must feel that Americans are
> terrorists.
>
> People in America may not like like you for calling them names.
> Perhaps you better change your definition of terrorist lest they turn
> it against you ? They will say you are a terrorist because they do not
> like you. Look!. Look and See what Americans do to terrorists. See !
> See the terrorist run. Run, terrorist, run.
>
> Look, your pissing on your shoes.  You are funny .
>
> Dennis




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:35 EST 2002
Article: 1294293 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Subject: Re: A HOLOCAUST DENIER IS A clever goyim
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You must be Jewish are your really that scared people find out how crooked
you really are.

Kurt Knoll.
==========
"T C"  wrote in message
news:3C29AB21.3070606@earthlink.net...
> Nobody wants you here, go away. Are the words too big?
>
> Kurt Knoll wrote:
>
> > You just said a lot of nothing.
> >
> > Kurt Knoll.
> > ========
> > "T C"  wrote in message
> > news:3C293369.8070901@earthlink.net...
> >
> >> If you had shit for brains it would be an improvement.
> >>
> >> Kurt Knoll wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Great I like Negatives can I see them. Were they all on Kodak film the
> >>
> > would
> >
> >>> be nice I do have an
> >>> Kodak Enlarger.
> >>>
> >>> Kurt Knoll.
> >>> ============
> >>> "T C"  wrote in message
> >>> news:3C290E06.5010502@earthlink.net...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Exactly how much lead paint did your parents feed you? The negatives
> >>>
> > are
> >
> >>>> on record and can't be faked, moron.
> >>>>
> >>>> ptolemy wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> alot of the photos used at nuremburg were faked by the soviets and
> >>>>
> >>> allies.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> www.heretical.org what can i say
> >>>>> visit sites like www.codoh.com and decide for yourself.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> www.ihr.org
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> >>>>
> >>> news:<3c28da2d_1@binaries.vphos.net>...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>> I did look at some of these photos. Wiesenthal must have been trunk
> >>>>>
> > and
> >
> >>> full
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>> of German Snaps
> >>>>>> when he took this photos because they are totally out of Focus.
Also
> >>>>>
> > I
> >
> >>> think
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>> some of the
> >>>>>> photos were not taken at Auschwitz  at all.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Kurt Knoll.
> >>>>>> ===========
> >>>>>> "T C"  wrote in message
> >>>>>> news:3C28AF7E.3080906@earthlink.net...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The NAZIs even documented these procedures, it was before they
were
> >>>>>>
> >>> that
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>> low on fuel. Get an education instead of defending the enemies of
> >>>>>>
> > all
> >
> >>>>>>> humanity.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Werner Knoll wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> If there are no escape holes in the truck, how long will it take
to
> >>>>>>>> create enough back pressure to stall the engine?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Is the killing going to be done while driving or after the truck
> >>>>>>>
> >>> stopped
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>> at his destination?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Why did the waste all this fuel when the had not enough to keep
the
> >>>>>>>> tanks running?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Werner Knoll
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> T C wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Plugging the exhaust kills the engine from back pressure,
filling
> >>>>>>>>
> >>> the
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>> back of the van provides enough volume to avoid that result.
Stop
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>  trying
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> to act educated, you're just a hate monger who denies genocide
and
> >>>>>>>>
> > a
> >
> >>> n
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>> intellectual midget.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Kurt Knoll wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Don't forget to visit the Mauthausen and daniel Kerens web
site.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Very Interesting.
> >>>>>>>>>> In Mauthausen the drove 10 Kilometer each way to gas the
> >>>>>>>>>
> > prisoners.
> >
> >>>>>>  Must
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> have
> >>>>>>>>>> been a hell of a job hey.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> The only problem I have is believing it. Every mechanic will
tell
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> you
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>  if you
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> plug the tailpipe
> >>>>>>>>>> exhaust The engine will stop running. If you connect the
exhaust
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> gas
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>  to the
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> rear
> >>>>>>>>>> of the van
> >>>>>>>>>> and connect it to the inside ?. The if then cabin gets full the
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> engine
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>  wall
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> also
> >>>>>>>>>> stop running.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> So how did they make the rest of the 10 Miles ?.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> The Holocaust and Holocaust Soap are Trademarks of the
Holocaust
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>  Industries
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Unlimited.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Kurt Knoll.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> "rick"  wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>  news:3C234876.6234@iglou.com...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Kurt Knoll wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> In case you don't know it anyone who is not 100 % convinced
is
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> > a
> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Holohoax Denier.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Here are some photographs for you kurt.
> >>>>>>>>>>> They are 100% convincing to everyone but a moron.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Denial of of the truth does not make it go away.
> >>>>>>>>>>> The truth remains the same:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.org/pages/t003/t00315.html
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.org/albums/palbum/p00/a0007p2.html
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg01/pg3/pg01358.html
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg16/pg6/pg16677.html
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg16/pg6/pg16675.html
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/pages/t088/t08820.html
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg22/pg0/pg22000.html
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg04/pg2/pg04270.html
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg01/pg3/pg01362.html
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg04/pg5/pg04533.html
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg00/pg8/pg00876.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/iffr/
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/19411025-wetzel-no365/
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430129-vergasungskeller/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430331-inventory/
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430624-inventory/
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> > http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?30
> >
> > http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?31
> >
> > http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?32
> >
> > http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?34
> >
> > http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?41
> >
> > http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?37
> >
> > http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?38
> >
> > http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?42
> >
> > http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?44
> >
> > http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?45
> >
> > http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?46
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:35 EST 2002
Article: 1294344 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Subject: Re: A HOLOCAUST DENIER IS A clever goyim
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Millions of documents are available about what the Germans did. But the
Germans are only allowed what
the feed us and ask no questions ore you are a Nazi. Some of the Holohoax
Stories are so
exaggerated they would stand up in Court. Jet no one is allowed to have any
cross examinations done.
One will find out that the only true and qualified Historians are the ones
that are approved by the Jews.

Others historians who have been active in Histories about various Countries
are no longer qualified
just as soon they get involved in the Holocaust. Andf it is negative do
warts the Jews they will no longer qualified as
Historian.

Almost immediately the Jews will attach the Historians Credibility and
involve them selves in character
assassinations against this individual. I also did hear some individual
researchers while looking for
document in some Archives were denied Access when the people involved found
out the person
doing the research was not working for the Jewish cause. in other cases some
writers had to search
for years finding a publisher who was brave enough to publish their books.
Because of being
blackmailed by the Jews.
The say the Archives are available to any qualified(Jewish) scholars. But
then again what you can
see is what the Jews will allow you to see. And you will not get what you
want because the control
of what you will get is in the hands of the Jewish contingency of the
Holohoax Industries.

Kurt Knoll.



"ptolemy"  wrote in message
news:85c335c.0112261209.7bfa43c8@posting.google.com...
> we all know about turkish barbarities against the greeks and
> armenians.
>
> imagine if the turks turned around and said the greeks had killed 6
> million turks and that the turks hadnt harmed anyone , and the world
> believed them, and there you have something of the holocaust story.
> no one denys the nazis commited atrocities , just that the allies are
> not the people to believe about who did what, and certainly not the
> jews , who are the biggest liars in the universe.
> turks and khazers are a bit vicious,it seems to a characteristic of
> that racial group.
> gladstone called the turks ' the inhuman exception to the human race'
>
>
> T C  wrote in message
news:<3C29F167.5030400@earthlink.net>...
> > No, we see the same bullshit denial arguments and "justifications" from
> > the Turks all the time so NAZIs bore us and, like you, most of the Turks
> > can't even see how stupid it is when someone else uses the same
arguments.
> >
> > Kurt Knoll wrote:
> >
> > > You must be Jewish are your really that scared people find out how
crooked
> > > you really are.
> > >
> > > Kurt Knoll.
> > > ==========
> > > "T C"  wrote in message
> > > news:3C29AB21.3070606@earthlink.net...
> > >
> > >> Nobody wants you here, go away. Are the words too big?
> > >>
> > >> Kurt Knoll wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> You just said a lot of nothing.
> > >>>
> > >>> Kurt Knoll.
> > >>> ========
> > >>> "T C"  wrote in message
> > >>> news:3C293369.8070901@earthlink.net...
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> If you had shit for brains it would be an improvement.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Kurt Knoll wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Great I like Negatives can I see them. Were they all on Kodak film
the
> > >>>>
> > >>> would
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>> be nice I do have an
> > >>>>> Kodak Enlarger.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Kurt Knoll.
> > >>>>> ============
> > >>>>> "T C"  wrote in message
> > >>>>> news:3C290E06.5010502@earthlink.net...
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Exactly how much lead paint did your parents feed you? The
negatives
> > >>>>>
> > >>> are
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>>> on record and can't be faked, moron.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> ptolemy wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> alot of the photos used at nuremburg were faked by the soviets
and
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> allies.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>> www.heretical.org what can i say
> > >>>>>>> visit sites like www.codoh.com and decide for yourself.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> www.ihr.org
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> news:<3c28da2d_1@binaries.vphos.net>...
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I did look at some of these photos. Wiesenthal must have been
trunk
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>> and
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>> full
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> of German Snaps
> > >>>>>>>> when he took this photos because they are totally out of Focus.
> > >>>>>>>
> > > Also
> > >
> > >>> I
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>> think
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> some of the
> > >>>>>>>> photos were not taken at Auschwitz  at all.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Kurt Knoll.
> > >>>>>>>> ===========
> > >>>>>>>> "T C"  wrote in message
> > >>>>>>>> news:3C28AF7E.3080906@earthlink.net...
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> The NAZIs even documented these procedures, it was before they
> > >>>>>>>>
> > > were
> > >
> > >>>>> that
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> low on fuel. Get an education instead of defending the enemies
of
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>> all
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>>>>>> humanity.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Werner Knoll wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> If there are no escape holes in the truck, how long will it
take
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > to
> > >
> > >>>>>>>>>> create enough back pressure to stall the engine?
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Is the killing going to be done while driving or after the
truck
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>> stopped
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> at his destination?
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Why did the waste all this fuel when the had not enough to
keep
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > the
> > >
> > >>>>>>>>>> tanks running?
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Werner Knoll
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> T C wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Plugging the exhaust kills the engine from back pressure,
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > filling
> > >
> > >>>>> the
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> back of the van provides enough volume to avoid that result.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > Stop
> > >
> > >>>>>>>>  trying
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> to act educated, you're just a hate monger who denies
genocide
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > and
> > >
> > >>> a
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>> n
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> intellectual midget.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Kurt Knoll wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Don't forget to visit the Mauthausen and daniel Kerens web
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > site.
> > >
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Very Interesting.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> In Mauthausen the drove 10 Kilometer each way to gas the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>> prisoners.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>>>>>  Must
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> have
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> been a hell of a job hey.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> The only problem I have is believing it. Every mechanic
will
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > tell
> > >
> > >>>>> you
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>  if you
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> plug the tailpipe
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> exhaust The engine will stop running. If you connect the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > exhaust
> > >
> > >>>>> gas
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>  to the
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> rear
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> of the van
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and connect it to the inside ?. The if then cabin gets full
the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>> engine
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>  wall
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> also
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> stop running.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> So how did they make the rest of the 10 Miles ?.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> The Holocaust and Holocaust Soap are Trademarks of the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > Holocaust
> > >
> > >>>>>>>>  Industries
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Unlimited.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Kurt Knoll.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> "rick"  wrote in message
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>  news:3C234876.6234@iglou.com...
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Kurt Knoll wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In case you don't know it anyone who is not 100 %
convinced
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > is
> > >
> > >>> a
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Holohoax Denier.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Here are some photographs for you kurt.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> They are 100% convincing to everyone but a moron.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Denial of of the truth does not make it go away.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> The truth remains the same:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.org/pages/t003/t00315.html
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.org/albums/palbum/p00/a0007p2.html
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg01/pg3/pg01358.html
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg16/pg6/pg16677.html
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg16/pg6/pg16675.html
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/pages/t088/t08820.html
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg22/pg0/pg22000.html
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg04/pg2/pg04270.html
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg01/pg3/pg01362.html
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg04/pg5/pg04533.html
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg00/pg8/pg00876.html
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/iffr/
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/19411025-wetzel-no365/
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>
http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430129-vergasungskeller/
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430331-inventory/
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430624-inventory/
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?30
> > >>>
> > >>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?31
> > >>>
> > >>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?32
> > >>>
> > >>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?34
> > >>>
> > >>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?41
> > >>>
> > >>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?37
> > >>>
> > >>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?38
> > >>>
> > >>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?42
> > >>>
> > >>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?44
> > >>>
> > >>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?45
> > >>>
> > >>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?46
> > >>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:35 EST 2002
Article: 1294347 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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I can read your English evens it is not perfect but don't worry about it.
The reason why this shenanigans
will most likely make fun of you is to discourage you from posting here or
make you nervous.

Just keep on writing people that want to know from more then one side can
read it. The ignorant
ones don't

Kurt Knoll.
===========
"ptolemy"  wrote in message
news:85c335c.0112261229.6c3687c9@posting.google.com...
> i hope your so bellicose mr jewishname when your murderer sharon is in
> the dock in belgium.
> i doubt we will ever see the day though unless the goyim wake up.
>
>  even the offical court historians will be hardpressed to keep up the
> 6 million bull figure seeing as auschwitz has changed its plaque .
> i suppose the people who run the museum would have been classified as
> deniers, if they had said that less than 4.5. million had died there
> ,just a few yrs ago.
>
> people can see the two plaques at www.heretical.org
>
> in a few yrs im sure , after the palestinians have been expelled or
> murdered , the media might let it slip out that the holohoax has been
> the greatest mass delusion in history.
>
> jews are the enemy of the ruth and of estern values.
>
>
> Joel Rosenberg  wrote in message
news:...
> > "Kurt Knoll"  writes:
> >
> > > Nothing new to me. My two older brothers and others I knew were forced
to
> > > see a movie about the German
> > > war crimes in Nuremberg. Some of the people present did recognize them
> > > self's in the movie. The scene
> > > was about people fleeing after an air raid by the Allied. Including in
the
> > > growth were also couple of Jews
> > > with a yellow star of David. But the people were made believe this
were all
> > > Jews.
> > > The Germans that recognized them self's and stood up and objected were
> > > imminently Arrested by the Americans.
> > >
> >
> > Well, good -- criminals are *supposed* to be arrested, and when they
> > are considerate enough to identify themselves, that's all to the good.
> >
> > These ubermenschen of yours weren't too smart, were they?
> > --
> > -------------------------------------
> > There's a widow in sleepy Chester
> >   Who weeps for her only son;
> > There's a grave on the Pabeng River,
> >   A grave that the Burmans shun,
> > And there's Subadar Prag Tewarri
> >   Who tells how the work was done.
> > -------------------------------------




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:35 EST 2002
Article: 1294348 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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So what and you are a Neo Jew.

Kurt Knoll.
=============
"T C"  wrote in message
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> The Turks ARE saying that about Armenians, I find your allegation
> against the Jews regarding the Holocaust proof that you are a neo-NAZI,
> go play with the other sub humans.
>
> ptolemy wrote:
>
> > we all know about turkish barbarities against the greeks and
> > armenians.
> >
> > imagine if the turks turned around and said the greeks had killed 6
> > million turks and that the turks hadnt harmed anyone , and the world
> > believed them, and there you have something of the holocaust story.
> > no one denys the nazis commited atrocities , just that the allies are
> > not the people to believe about who did what, and certainly not the
> > jews , who are the biggest liars in the universe.
> > turks and khazers are a bit vicious,it seems to a characteristic of
> > that racial group.
> > gladstone called the turks ' the inhuman exception to the human race'
> >
> >
> > T C  wrote in message
news:<3C29F167.5030400@earthlink.net>...
> >
> >> No, we see the same bullshit denial arguments and "justifications" from
> >> the Turks all the time so NAZIs bore us and, like you, most of the
Turks
> >> can't even see how stupid it is when someone else uses the same
arguments.
> >>
> >> Kurt Knoll wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> You must be Jewish are your really that scared people find out how
crooked
> >>> you really are.
> >>>
> >>> Kurt Knoll.
> >>> ==========
> >>> "T C"  wrote in message
> >>> news:3C29AB21.3070606@earthlink.net...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Nobody wants you here, go away. Are the words too big?
> >>>>
> >>>> Kurt Knoll wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> You just said a lot of nothing.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Kurt Knoll.
> >>>>> ========
> >>>>> "T C"  wrote in message
> >>>>> news:3C293369.8070901@earthlink.net...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> If you had shit for brains it would be an improvement.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Kurt Knoll wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Great I like Negatives can I see them. Were they all on Kodak film
the
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> would
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> be nice I do have an
> >>>>>>> Kodak Enlarger.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Kurt Knoll.
> >>>>>>> ============
> >>>>>>> "T C"  wrote in message
> >>>>>>> news:3C290E06.5010502@earthlink.net...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Exactly how much lead paint did your parents feed you? The
negatives
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>> are
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>> on record and can't be faked, moron.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ptolemy wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> alot of the photos used at nuremburg were faked by the soviets
and
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> allies.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> www.heretical.org what can i say
> >>>>>>>>> visit sites like www.codoh.com and decide for yourself.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> www.ihr.org
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> news:<3c28da2d_1@binaries.vphos.net>...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I did look at some of these photos. Wiesenthal must have been
trunk
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> and
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> full
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> of German Snaps
> >>>>>>>>>> when he took this photos because they are totally out of Focus.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> Also
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> I
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> think
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> some of the
> >>>>>>>>>> photos were not taken at Auschwitz  at all.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Kurt Knoll.
> >>>>>>>>>> ===========
> >>>>>>>>>> "T C"  wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>> news:3C28AF7E.3080906@earthlink.net...
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> The NAZIs even documented these procedures, it was before they
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>> were
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> low on fuel. Get an education instead of defending the enemies
of
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> all
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> humanity.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Werner Knoll wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> If there are no escape holes in the truck, how long will it
take
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> to
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> create enough back pressure to stall the engine?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Is the killing going to be done while driving or after the
truck
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> stopped
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> at his destination?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Why did the waste all this fuel when the had not enough to
keep
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> the
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> tanks running?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Werner Knoll
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> T C wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Plugging the exhaust kills the engine from back pressure,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> filling
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> back of the van provides enough volume to avoid that result.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> Stop
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>>  trying
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> to act educated, you're just a hate monger who denies
genocide
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> and
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> a
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> n
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> intellectual midget.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Kurt Knoll wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't forget to visit the Mauthausen and daniel Kerens web
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> site.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Very Interesting.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In Mauthausen the drove 10 Kilometer each way to gas the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> prisoners.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>  Must
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> been a hell of a job hey.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The only problem I have is believing it. Every mechanic
will
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> tell
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>  if you
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> plug the tailpipe
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> exhaust The engine will stop running. If you connect the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> exhaust
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>> gas
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>  to the
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rear
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the van
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and connect it to the inside ?. The if then cabin gets full
the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> engine
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>  wall
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> also
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> stop running.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So how did they make the rest of the 10 Miles ?.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Holocaust and Holocaust Soap are Trademarks of the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> Holocaust
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>>  Industries
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unlimited.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kurt Knoll.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rick"  wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>  news:3C234876.6234@iglou.com...
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kurt Knoll wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In case you don't know it anyone who is not 100 %
convinced
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> is
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> a
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Holohoax Denier.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here are some photographs for you kurt.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They are 100% convincing to everyone but a moron.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Denial of of the truth does not make it go away.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The truth remains the same:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.org/pages/t003/t00315.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.org/albums/palbum/p00/a0007p2.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg01/pg3/pg01358.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg16/pg6/pg16677.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg16/pg6/pg16675.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/pages/t088/t08820.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg22/pg0/pg22000.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg04/pg2/pg04270.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg01/pg3/pg01362.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg04/pg5/pg04533.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg00/pg8/pg00876.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/iffr/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/19411025-wetzel-no365/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430129-vergasungskeller/
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430331-inventory/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430624-inventory/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?30
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?31
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?32
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?34
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?41
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?37
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?38
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?42
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?44
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?45
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?46
> >>>>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:36 EST 2002
Article: 1294354 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Well I don't know how long you are in this news group but it did happen to
me and others before.
As for you I take you comment with a grain of salt. You did not grow up in a
war such as the second
world war. Do me you look more like a guy whose Brain is fucked up by
watching to many
Holohoax movies on the Television. Stephen Spielberg is a great guy isn't
he. He writes most of his
own scripts and even takes advice from his brethren willingly. And since
most Hollywood Studios
are owned by the Jews so it will be more like a Family affair.

You on the other hand wend to a school where the curriculum about the
Holocaust has shaped
your head and brain where you look more like a Bagel to me right now.

Kurt Knoll.
=========
"T C"  wrote in message
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> Rejecting what you say doesn't mean we don't understand it, you think
> your ego gives you intellect, you are inferior.
>
> Kurt Knoll wrote:
>
> > I can read your English evens it is not perfect but don't worry about
it.
> > The reason why this shenanigans
> > will most likely make fun of you is to discourage you from posting here
or
> > make you nervous.
> >
> > Just keep on writing people that want to know from more then one side
can
> > read it. The ignorant
> > ones don't
> >
> > Kurt Knoll.
> > ===========
> > "ptolemy"  wrote in message
> > news:85c335c.0112261229.6c3687c9@posting.google.com...
> >
> >> i hope your so bellicose mr jewishname when your murderer sharon is in
> >> the dock in belgium.
> >> i doubt we will ever see the day though unless the goyim wake up.
> >>
> >>  even the offical court historians will be hardpressed to keep up the
> >> 6 million bull figure seeing as auschwitz has changed its plaque .
> >> i suppose the people who run the museum would have been classified as
> >> deniers, if they had said that less than 4.5. million had died there
> >> ,just a few yrs ago.
> >>
> >> people can see the two plaques at www.heretical.org
> >>
> >> in a few yrs im sure , after the palestinians have been expelled or
> >> murdered , the media might let it slip out that the holohoax has been
> >> the greatest mass delusion in history.
> >>
> >> jews are the enemy of the ruth and of estern values.
> >>
> >>
> >> Joel Rosenberg  wrote in message
> >
> > news:...
> >
> >>> "Kurt Knoll"  writes:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Nothing new to me. My two older brothers and others I knew were
forced
> >>>
> > to
> >
> >>>> see a movie about the German
> >>>> war crimes in Nuremberg. Some of the people present did recognize
them
> >>>> self's in the movie. The scene
> >>>> was about people fleeing after an air raid by the Allied. Including
in
> >>>
> > the
> >
> >>>> growth were also couple of Jews
> >>>> with a yellow star of David. But the people were made believe this
> >>>
> > were all
> >
> >>>> Jews.
> >>>> The Germans that recognized them self's and stood up and objected
were
> >>>> imminently Arrested by the Americans.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Well, good -- criminals are *supposed* to be arrested, and when they
> >>> are considerate enough to identify themselves, that's all to the good.
> >>>
> >>> These ubermenschen of yours weren't too smart, were they?
> >>> --
> >>> -------------------------------------
> >>> There's a widow in sleepy Chester
> >>>   Who weeps for her only son;
> >>> There's a grave on the Pabeng River,
> >>>   A grave that the Burmans shun,
> >>> And there's Subadar Prag Tewarri
> >>>   Who tells how the work was done.
> >>> -------------------------------------
> >>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:36 EST 2002
Article: 1294355 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Is this all you can come up with. The guy who sold you a computer should be
shot he made
Hyannis mistake.

Kurt Knoll.
=========
"T C"  wrote in message
news:3C2A3CBE.20906@earthlink.net...
> You have sold your humanity and are the enemy of mankind.
>
> ptolemy wrote:
>
> > i hope your so bellicose mr jewishname when your murderer sharon is in
> > the dock in belgium.
> > i doubt we will ever see the day though unless the goyim wake up.
> >
> >  even the offical court historians will be hardpressed to keep up the
> > 6 million bull figure seeing as auschwitz has changed its plaque .
> > i suppose the people who run the museum would have been classified as
> > deniers, if they had said that less than 4.5. million had died there
> > ,just a few yrs ago.
> >
> > people can see the two plaques at www.heretical.org
> >
> > in a few yrs im sure , after the palestinians have been expelled or
> > murdered , the media might let it slip out that the holohoax has been
> > the greatest mass delusion in history.
> >
> > jews are the enemy of the ruth and of estern values.
> >
> >
> > Joel Rosenberg  wrote in message
news:...
> >
> >> "Kurt Knoll"  writes:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Nothing new to me. My two older brothers and others I knew were forced
to
> >>> see a movie about the German
> >>> war crimes in Nuremberg. Some of the people present did recognize them
> >>> self's in the movie. The scene
> >>> was about people fleeing after an air raid by the Allied. Including in
the
> >>> growth were also couple of Jews
> >>> with a yellow star of David. But the people were made believe this
were all
> >>> Jews.
> >>> The Germans that recognized them self's and stood up and objected were
> >>> imminently Arrested by the Americans.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Well, good -- criminals are *supposed* to be arrested, and when they
> >> are considerate enough to identify themselves, that's all to the good.
> >>
> >> These ubermenschen of yours weren't too smart, were they?
> >> --
> >> -------------------------------------
> >> There's a widow in sleepy Chester
> >>   Who weeps for her only son;
> >> There's a grave on the Pabeng River,
> >>   A grave that the Burmans shun,
> >> And there's Subadar Prag Tewarri
> >>   Who tells how the work was done.
> >> -------------------------------------
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:36 EST 2002
Article: 1294356 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Is this what your Mother told you ?. Keep on going some day you will be a
History Teacher
or a Beer Drinker.

Kurt Knoll.
===============
"T C"  wrote in message
news:3C2A3D02.5090800@earthlink.net...
> Your messages don't belong in these newsgroups and you don't belong
> among humans, go away.
>
> Kurt Knoll wrote:
>
> > Millions of documents are available about what the Germans did. But the
> > Germans are only allowed what
> > the feed us and ask no questions ore you are a Nazi. Some of the
Holohoax
> > Stories are so
> > exaggerated they would stand up in Court. Jet no one is allowed to have
any
> > cross examinations done.
> > One will find out that the only true and qualified Historians are the
ones
> > that are approved by the Jews.
> >
> > Others historians who have been active in Histories about various
Countries
> > are no longer qualified
> > just as soon they get involved in the Holocaust. Andf it is negative do
> > warts the Jews they will no longer qualified as
> > Historian.
> >
> > Almost immediately the Jews will attach the Historians Credibility and
> > involve them selves in character
> > assassinations against this individual. I also did hear some individual
> > researchers while looking for
> > document in some Archives were denied Access when the people involved
found
> > out the person
> > doing the research was not working for the Jewish cause. in other cases
some
> > writers had to search
> > for years finding a publisher who was brave enough to publish their
books.
> > Because of being
> > blackmailed by the Jews.
> > The say the Archives are available to any qualified(Jewish) scholars.
But
> > then again what you can
> > see is what the Jews will allow you to see. And you will not get what
you
> > want because the control
> > of what you will get is in the hands of the Jewish contingency of the
> > Holohoax Industries.
> >
> > Kurt Knoll.
> >
> >
> >
> > "ptolemy"  wrote in message
> > news:85c335c.0112261209.7bfa43c8@posting.google.com...
> >
> >> we all know about turkish barbarities against the greeks and
> >> armenians.
> >>
> >> imagine if the turks turned around and said the greeks had killed 6
> >> million turks and that the turks hadnt harmed anyone , and the world
> >> believed them, and there you have something of the holocaust story.
> >> no one denys the nazis commited atrocities , just that the allies are
> >> not the people to believe about who did what, and certainly not the
> >> jews , who are the biggest liars in the universe.
> >> turks and khazers are a bit vicious,it seems to a characteristic of
> >> that racial group.
> >> gladstone called the turks ' the inhuman exception to the human race'
> >>
> >>
> >> T C  wrote in message
> >
> > news:<3C29F167.5030400@earthlink.net>...
> >
> >>> No, we see the same bullshit denial arguments and "justifications"
from
> >>> the Turks all the time so NAZIs bore us and, like you, most of the
Turks
> >>> can't even see how stupid it is when someone else uses the same
> >>
> > arguments.
> >
> >>> Kurt Knoll wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> You must be Jewish are your really that scared people find out how
> >>>
> > crooked
> >
> >>>> you really are.
> >>>>
> >>>> Kurt Knoll.
> >>>> ==========
> >>>> "T C"  wrote in message
> >>>> news:3C29AB21.3070606@earthlink.net...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Nobody wants you here, go away. Are the words too big?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Kurt Knoll wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> You just said a lot of nothing.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Kurt Knoll.
> >>>>>> ========
> >>>>>> "T C"  wrote in message
> >>>>>> news:3C293369.8070901@earthlink.net...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If you had shit for brains it would be an improvement.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Kurt Knoll wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Great I like Negatives can I see them. Were they all on Kodak
film
> >>>>>>>
> > the
> >
> >>>>>> would
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> be nice I do have an
> >>>>>>>> Kodak Enlarger.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Kurt Knoll.
> >>>>>>>> ============
> >>>>>>>> "T C"  wrote in message
> >>>>>>>> news:3C290E06.5010502@earthlink.net...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Exactly how much lead paint did your parents feed you? The
> >>>>>>>>
> > negatives
> >
> >>>>>> are
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> on record and can't be faked, moron.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> ptolemy wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> alot of the photos used at nuremburg were faked by the soviets
> >>>>>>>>>
> > and
> >
> >>>>>>>> allies.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> www.heretical.org what can i say
> >>>>>>>>>> visit sites like www.codoh.com and decide for yourself.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> www.ihr.org
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> news:<3c28da2d_1@binaries.vphos.net>...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I did look at some of these photos. Wiesenthal must have been
> >>>>>>>>>>
> > trunk
> >
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> full
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> of German Snaps
> >>>>>>>>>>> when he took this photos because they are totally out of
Focus.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> Also
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> I
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> think
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> some of the
> >>>>>>>>>>> photos were not taken at Auschwitz  at all.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Kurt Knoll.
> >>>>>>>>>>> ===========
> >>>>>>>>>>> "T C"  wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>>> news:3C28AF7E.3080906@earthlink.net...
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> The NAZIs even documented these procedures, it was before
they
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> were
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> low on fuel. Get an education instead of defending the
enemies
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> > of
> >
> >>>>>> all
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> humanity.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Werner Knoll wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> If there are no escape holes in the truck, how long will it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > take
> >
> >>>> to
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> create enough back pressure to stall the engine?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Is the killing going to be done while driving or after the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > truck
> >
> >>>>>>>> stopped
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> at his destination?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Why did the waste all this fuel when the had not enough to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > keep
> >
> >>>> the
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> tanks running?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Werner Knoll
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> T C wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Plugging the exhaust kills the engine from back pressure,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> filling
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> back of the van provides enough volume to avoid that
result.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> Stop
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>  trying
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to act educated, you're just a hate monger who denies
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > genocide
> >
> >>>> and
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> a
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> n
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> intellectual midget.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kurt Knoll wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't forget to visit the Mauthausen and daniel Kerens web
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> site.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Very Interesting.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In Mauthausen the drove 10 Kilometer each way to gas the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> prisoners.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>  Must
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been a hell of a job hey.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The only problem I have is believing it. Every mechanic
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > will
> >
> >>>> tell
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>  if you
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plug the tailpipe
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exhaust The engine will stop running. If you connect the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> exhaust
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>> gas
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>  to the
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rear
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the van
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and connect it to the inside ?. The if then cabin gets
full
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > the
> >
> >>>>>>>> engine
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>  wall
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stop running.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So how did they make the rest of the 10 Miles ?.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Holocaust and Holocaust Soap are Trademarks of the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> Holocaust
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>  Industries
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unlimited.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kurt Knoll.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rick"  wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>  news:3C234876.6234@iglou.com...
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kurt Knoll wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In case you don't know it anyone who is not 100 %
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > convinced
> >
> >>>> is
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> a
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Holohoax Denier.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here are some photographs for you kurt.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They are 100% convincing to everyone but a moron.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Denial of of the truth does not make it go away.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The truth remains the same:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.org/pages/t003/t00315.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
http://motlc.wiesenthal.org/albums/palbum/p00/a0007p2.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg01/pg3/pg01358.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg16/pg6/pg16677.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg16/pg6/pg16675.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/pages/t088/t08820.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg22/pg0/pg22000.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg04/pg2/pg04270.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg01/pg3/pg01362.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg04/pg5/pg04533.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/gallery/pg00/pg8/pg00876.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/iffr/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/19411025-wetzel-no365/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430129-vergasungskeller/
> >
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> > http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430331-inventory/
> >
> > http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430624-inventory/
> >
> >>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?30
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?31
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?32
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?34
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?41
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?37
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?38
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?42
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?44
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?45
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/photo.cgi?46
> >>>>>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:38 EST 2002
Article: 1294357 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Subject: Re: The Arabs truly did it and we know. (was: Re: America Has Been Betrayed.
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Let me know what the Arabs did I am Curious.

Kurt Knoll.
=============
"IR"  wrote in message
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> The Arabs truly did it and we know. (was: Re: America Has Been Betrayed.
>
>
> ir
> "Anonymous"  wrote in message
> news:f8065865843a526d8bac3007fe64fa45@mix.winterorbit.com...
> >
> >
> > PRESS RELEASE
>
> >...cument concludes."
> >
> >
>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:38 EST 2002
Article: 1294367 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek,alt.news.cyprus,soc.culture.usa,alt.culture.armenian,alt.revisionism,can.politics
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Subject: Re: A HOLOCAUST DENIER IS A clever goyim
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So I see you are Fictional. Let me know when you are in outer space. I hope
you are not using
dope to get there. I will be using transiental meditation to get there if
you see me say here I am
but very Loud I am hard at hearing.

Kurt Knoll.
===
"T C"  wrote in message
news:3C2A53DD.4000402@earthlink.net...
>   My grounding has always been in science, I screen for bias
> automatically. You are both intellectually and ethically inferior. You
> are proud of your choice to sell your humanity, go communicate with your
> own kind and leave humans alone.
>
> Kurt Knoll wrote:
>
> > Well I don't know how long you are in this news group but it did happen
to
> > me and others before.
> > As for you I take you comment with a grain of salt. You did not grow up
in a
> > war such as the second
> > world war. Do me you look more like a guy whose Brain is fucked up by
> > watching to many
> > Holohoax movies on the Television. Stephen Spielberg is a great guy
isn't
> > he. He writes most of his
> > own scripts and even takes advice from his brethren willingly. And since
> > most Hollywood Studios
> > are owned by the Jews so it will be more like a Family affair.
> >
> > You on the other hand wend to a school where the curriculum about the
> > Holocaust has shaped
> > your head and brain where you look more like a Bagel to me right now.
> >
> > Kurt Knoll.
> > =========
> > "T C"  wrote in message
> > news:3C2A3D4A.10300@earthlink.net...
> >
> >> Rejecting what you say doesn't mean we don't understand it, you think
> >> your ego gives you intellect, you are inferior.
> >>
> >> Kurt Knoll wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> I can read your English evens it is not perfect but don't worry about
> >>
> > it.
> >
> >>> The reason why this shenanigans
> >>> will most likely make fun of you is to discourage you from posting
here
> >>
> > or
> >
> >>> make you nervous.
> >>>
> >>> Just keep on writing people that want to know from more then one side
> >>
> > can
> >
> >>> read it. The ignorant
> >>> ones don't
> >>>
> >>> Kurt Knoll.
> >>> ===========
> >>> "ptolemy"  wrote in message
> >>> news:85c335c.0112261229.6c3687c9@posting.google.com...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> i hope your so bellicose mr jewishname when your murderer sharon is
in
> >>>> the dock in belgium.
> >>>> i doubt we will ever see the day though unless the goyim wake up.
> >>>>
> >>>>  even the offical court historians will be hardpressed to keep up the
> >>>> 6 million bull figure seeing as auschwitz has changed its plaque .
> >>>> i suppose the people who run the museum would have been classified as
> >>>> deniers, if they had said that less than 4.5. million had died there
> >>>> ,just a few yrs ago.
> >>>>
> >>>> people can see the two plaques at www.heretical.org
> >>>>
> >>>> in a few yrs im sure , after the palestinians have been expelled or
> >>>> murdered , the media might let it slip out that the holohoax has been
> >>>> the greatest mass delusion in history.
> >>>>
> >>>> jews are the enemy of the ruth and of estern values.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Joel Rosenberg  wrote in message
> >>>
> >>> news:...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> "Kurt Knoll"  writes:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Nothing new to me. My two older brothers and others I knew were
> >>>>>
> > forced
> >
> >>> to
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>> see a movie about the German
> >>>>>> war crimes in Nuremberg. Some of the people present did recognize
> >>>>>
> > them
> >
> >>>>>> self's in the movie. The scene
> >>>>>> was about people fleeing after an air raid by the Allied. Including
> >>>>>
> > in
> >
> >>> the
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>> growth were also couple of Jews
> >>>>>> with a yellow star of David. But the people were made believe this
> >>>>>
> >>> were all
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>> Jews.
> >>>>>> The Germans that recognized them self's and stood up and objected
> >>>>>
> > were
> >
> >>>>>> imminently Arrested by the Americans.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Well, good -- criminals are *supposed* to be arrested, and when they
> >>>>> are considerate enough to identify themselves, that's all to the
good.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> These ubermenschen of yours weren't too smart, were they?
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> -------------------------------------
> >>>>> There's a widow in sleepy Chester
> >>>>>   Who weeps for her only son;
> >>>>> There's a grave on the Pabeng River,
> >>>>>   A grave that the Burmans shun,
> >>>>> And there's Subadar Prag Tewarri
> >>>>>   Who tells how the work was done.
> >>>>> -------------------------------------
> >>>>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:38 EST 2002
Article: 1294368 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek,alt.news.cyprus,soc.culture.usa,alt.culture.armenian,alt.revisionism,can.politics
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Subject: Re: A HOLOCAUST DENIER IS A clever goyim
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You are wrong again. You can not but somthing Bigger in to someting smaller.
The only ones
that would not complain would be the womens for them it would never be big
enough.

Kurt Knoll.
============
"T C"  wrote in message
news:3C2A542F.2050506@earthlink.net...
> You can't even see the truth when it's put to you in small words. Just
> restrict your bullshit to  newsgroups where it's on topic.
>
> Kurt Knoll wrote:
>
> > Is this all you can come up with. The guy who sold you a computer should
be
> > shot he made
> > Hyannis mistake.
> >
> > Kurt Knoll.
> > =========
> > "T C"  wrote in message
> > news:3C2A3CBE.20906@earthlink.net...
> >
> >> You have sold your humanity and are the enemy of mankind.
> >>
> >> ptolemy wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> i hope your so bellicose mr jewishname when your murderer sharon is in
> >>> the dock in belgium.
> >>> i doubt we will ever see the day though unless the goyim wake up.
> >>>
> >>>  even the offical court historians will be hardpressed to keep up the
> >>> 6 million bull figure seeing as auschwitz has changed its plaque .
> >>> i suppose the people who run the museum would have been classified as
> >>> deniers, if they had said that less than 4.5. million had died there
> >>> ,just a few yrs ago.
> >>>
> >>> people can see the two plaques at www.heretical.org
> >>>
> >>> in a few yrs im sure , after the palestinians have been expelled or
> >>> murdered , the media might let it slip out that the holohoax has been
> >>> the greatest mass delusion in history.
> >>>
> >>> jews are the enemy of the ruth and of estern values.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Joel Rosenberg  wrote in message
> >>
> > news:...
> >
> >>>> "Kurt Knoll"  writes:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Nothing new to me. My two older brothers and others I knew were
forced
> >>>>
> > to
> >
> >>>>> see a movie about the German
> >>>>> war crimes in Nuremberg. Some of the people present did recognize
them
> >>>>> self's in the movie. The scene
> >>>>> was about people fleeing after an air raid by the Allied. Including
in
> >>>>
> > the
> >
> >>>>> growth were also couple of Jews
> >>>>> with a yellow star of David. But the people were made believe this
> >>>>
> > were all
> >
> >>>>> Jews.
> >>>>> The Germans that recognized them self's and stood up and objected
were
> >>>>> imminently Arrested by the Americans.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Well, good -- criminals are *supposed* to be arrested, and when they
> >>>> are considerate enough to identify themselves, that's all to the
good.
> >>>>
> >>>> These ubermenschen of yours weren't too smart, were they?
> >>>> --
> >>>> -------------------------------------
> >>>> There's a widow in sleepy Chester
> >>>>   Who weeps for her only son;
> >>>> There's a grave on the Pabeng River,
> >>>>   A grave that the Burmans shun,
> >>>> And there's Subadar Prag Tewarri
> >>>>   Who tells how the work was done.
> >>>> -------------------------------------
> >>>
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:38 EST 2002
Article: 1294404 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
Newsgroups: can.politics,alt.politics.british,alt.politics.usa.misc,alt.revisionism
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Are the east Indians an Buddhists also anti Semites. Why is it when a German
dislikes Jews he is a Nazi if A
American dislikes Jews he is a anti Semite. Isn't the word nazi used for
your convenience only.

Kurt Knoll.
===========
"DennisG"  wrote in message
news:Xns9183BCBAAED10boxwood@198.161.156.10...
> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in
> news:3c296c9f$1_2@binaries.vphos.net:
>
> (...)
> > Give yourself a break the world is not stupid they can see every day
> > what is going on.
> >
> > Kurt Knoll.
>
> I agree. That is why there are so few white supremists about, I suppose.
> That is why anti-semitism doesn't find supporters.
>
> Oh, but what about the about the anti-semites ? ...the white supremists ?
> If the world does not support them and the world is not stupid, the
> corollary must be that they are......
>
> Good thinking !!
>
> >
> >> Look, your pissing on your shoes.  You are funny .
> >>
> >> Dennis
> >
> >
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:39 EST 2002
Article: 1294405 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
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Are the east Indians an Buddhists also anti Semites. Why is it when a German
dislikes Jews he is a Nazi if a American dislikes Jews he is a anti Semite.
Isn't the word nazi used for
your convenience only.


Kurt Knoll.
===========

"DennisG"  wrote in message
news:Xns9183BCBAAED10boxwood@198.161.156.10...
> "Kurt Knoll"  wrote in
> news:3c296c9f$1_2@binaries.vphos.net:
>
> (...)
> > Give yourself a break the world is not stupid they can see every day
> > what is going on.
> >
> > Kurt Knoll.
>
> I agree. That is why there are so few white supremists about, I suppose.
> That is why anti-semitism doesn't find supporters.
>
> Oh, but what about the about the anti-semites ? ...the white supremists ?
> If the world does not support them and the world is not stupid, the
> corollary must be that they are......
>
> Good thinking !!
>
> >
> >> Look, your pissing on your shoes.  You are funny .
> >>
> >> Dennis
> >
> >
>




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:39 EST 2002
Article: 1294406 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.politics,us.politics
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Jeffery I can see you ate a bagel this Morning. You must have accidentally
eat the Whole in
the middle. This is why you nothing upstairs anymore.

Kurt Knoll.
==========
"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
news:jeffreygbrown-39FDD8.21452226122001@news.alt.net...
> In article <3C294634.56B9FC51@telus.net>, Naziboy Knoll

> wrote:
>
> > And to get their point across, the include people who ask legitimate
> > questions to be sure they stop asking questions?
>
> You don't "ask legitimate questions", imbecile. You never have. All you do
is
> deny, lie, deny, and lie some more -- with a little libel thrown in for
good
> measure.
>
> JGB
>
> =====================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown                          jeffreygbrown@mailandnews.com
> For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
> to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
> To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study", 1997




From kknoll@yellowhead16.net Wed Jan  9 19:02:39 EST 2002
Article: 1294409 of alt.revisionism
From: "Kurt Knoll" 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek,alt.news.cyprus,soc.culture.usa,alt.culture.armenian,alt.revisionism,can.politics
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I know you have a limited mentality but I forgive you.

Kurt Knoll.
=============
"T C"  wrote in message
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> Just start posting where your messages belong instead of here, you're
> too boring and retarded.
>
> Kurt Knoll wrote:
>
> > So I see you are Fictional. Let me know when you are in outer space. I
hope
> > you are not using
> > dope to get there. I will be using transiental meditation to get there
if
> > you see me say here I am
> > but very Loud I am hard at hearing.
> >
> > Kurt Knoll.
> > ===
> > "T C"  wrote in message
> > news:3C2A53DD.4000402@earthlink.net...
> >
> >>   My grounding has always been in science, I screen for bias
> >> automatically. You are both intellectually and ethically inferior. You
> >> are proud of your choice to sell your humanity, go communicate with
your
> >> own kind and leave humans alone.
> >>
> >> Kurt Knoll wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Well I don't know how long you are in this news group but it did
happen
> >>
> > to
> >
> >>> me and others before.
> >>> As for you I take you comment with a grain of salt. You did not grow
up
> >>
> > in a
> >
> >>> war such as the second
> >>> world war. Do me you look more like a guy whose Brain is fucked up by
> >>> watching to many
> >>> Holohoax movies on the Television. Stephen Spielberg is a great guy
> >>
> > isn't
> >
> >>> he. He writes most of his
> >>> own scripts and even takes advice from his brethren willingly. And
since
> >>> most Hollywood Studios
> >>> are owned by the Jews so it w