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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: Ken Mcvay: Draft-dodger, gas station attendant at 50, loser...
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The subject line says it all.


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Subject: Ken Mcvay: Draft-dodger, gas station attendant at 50, loser...
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The subject line says it all.


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"Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms....freedom of thought,
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                               -- Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms


From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Wed Dec 20 09:16:04 PST 1995
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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: Treason
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Jew-el Rosenberg replies to me:

>>Again, I state: it is impossible to commit treason against traitors.
 
> treason
 
> treason (trę´zen) noun
> 1.	Violation of allegiance toward one's country or sovereign, especially the 
> betrayal of one's country by waging war against it or by consciously and 
> purposely acting to aid its enemies.
 
> The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Third Edition 
> copyright © 1992 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Electronic version licensed from 
> InfoSoft International, Inc. All rights reserved.
 
> The Big Lie technique looks so, nazilike on you . . . 

There is only ONE definition of treason which is legitimate and authori-
tative within the United States, and that is the definition outlined in the
United States Constitution:

"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war
against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort."

                                      -- United States Constitution
                                         Article III, Section 3,
                                         Paragraph 1   
   

The oath every official takes to the Constitution expands upon the consti-
tutional definition, that a loyal American must defend the Constitution
against all enemies, foreign AND DOMESTIC.

The Washington Criminals' record of blatant violations of the letter and
intent of the Constitution, and their continuing record of encouraging,
promoting, and actively engaging in activities detrimental to the American
People mark them as traitors.  An elected official who engages in or is
party to acts violating the Constitution and/or aiding America's enemies
for whatever anti-American reason, forefeits his or her constitutional
authority first conveyed to them through either real or sham election, and
therefore he or she becomes an outlaw.  This official may be and must be
removed from position of authority by either his colleagues loyal to
America, or by the People, in whole or in part.

As a loyal American, it is my DUTY to actively oppose and seek the
neutralization of parties working against America, regardless of their
status or prestige.  It is irrelevant if the traitor is an "elected" official:
he or she must be removed from a position where he or she may cause
further damage to the Nation.

If treason in government is isolated, the Constitution prescribes
impeachment and punishment of the individuals involved.  If treason in
government is widespread, as in today's dire situtation, the Consti-
tutional means of popular revolution, secured in the ninth article of the
Bill of Rights, may be exercised by the People, in whole or in part.  This
right is inalienable, and recognized by leaders such as Jefferson, Lincoln,
and U.S. Grant.

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"Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms....freedom of thought,
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                               -- Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms


From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Wed Dec 20 09:16:05 PST 1995
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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: Re: It wasn't six million, Mr. Griswold
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Ken McVay, gas station attendant, replies to Les Griswold:

> The correct figure is much closer to 12-million, Mr. Griswold,
> but I wouldn't expect you to know that - you're long on talk
> and short on reality.

You haven't proven that "six million" were killed, Kenny.  Now you allege
"twelve million" were killed.  Next it'll be 24 million.

> Perhaps the reason the German government, and the German
> people, accept the reality of the Holocaust is that they are
> fully aware of that reality. It permeates their lives, its
> documents and testimonies fill their warehouses. That reality,
> Mr. Griswold, is beyond question.. except, of course, for
> spiteful, xenophobic extremists who have a vested interest in
> cleansing the Hitler image.

Perhaps the reason the "German" goverment asserts the Hoaxocaust is a
"fact" is because it is run largely by Sabbath Goyim, backed by Jewish
money in Frankfurt, and watched over for over fifty years by an American
and British occupation army.  Perhaps the reason the German People
"accept" the myth of the "Holocaust" is because they have NEVER BEEN
PROVIDED WITH AN ALTERNATIVE EXPLANATION, being brainwashed in their
schools, their churches, on their televisions, in their movies, in their
books and magazines, from kindergarten through adulthood, and if by some
chance after all this someone has the coruage to question the Holy Hoax,
they are hauled off to prison for "defaming the memory of the dead."

Ken Mcvay: how many litres have you pumped today?
--
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                               -- Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms


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Ken Mcvay GSA replies to Teri:

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From: kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
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>Fill'er up with Unleaded Plus, please! :)

Sorry, but (1) the stations around here are self-serve, and
(2) I don't work in a gas station.
    ^ ^^^^^ ^^^^ ^^ ^ ^^^ ^^^^^^^

-----

Oh really??

I invite the reader to compare --

"His home is in a small coastal town north of Victoria, his weapon a
rickety self-built personal computer, and his only support a meagre
income from his job as assistant manager of a gas station."

                                       -- "Battle on the Internet"
                                          _Maclean's_, 10/17/94


"By day, Ken McVay runs a gas station/convenience store in a small
Vancouver Island town. At night, he cruises the Internet, hunting
for neo-Nazis and anti-Semites."

                                       -- "Computer Buff Takes on Hatemongers
                                           With A Passion"
                                           (Toronto) _Globe & Mail_, 10/18/94


"BOUQUET: For battling hatred, to Ken McVay, a convenience-store worker
         from Victoria B.C."

                                       -- "Bouquets and Brickbats"
                                          _Montreal Gazette_, 10/15/94
--
"Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms....freedom of thought,
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 media of communication...."
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From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Dec 21 09:42:47 PST 1995
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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: Re: Treason
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Yale F. Edeiken replies to me:

>>  There is only ONE definition of treason which is legitimate and authori-
>>  tative within the United States, and that is the definition outlined in the
>>  United States Constitution:
  
>>  "Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war
>>  against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort."

> 	That is correct.  For your information, your hero Adolf declared war
> on the United States.  Since you are the one adhering to the enemies of the
> United States, you are the only one here who meets your definition of traitor.    


Typically Jewish pseudo-logic.

By your "reasoning," Woodrow Wilson was guilty of treason for supporting
the United Kingdom, and every American who buys Jap cars is a traitor for
supporting the same government we used nuclear weapons to defeat.

The constitutional definition of treason refers exclusively to acts
committed while the Nation is in a declared state of war against a foreign
power.  Unless Edeikike is asserting the Third Reich is presently an
extent state still at war with America, I cannot be a traitor.  Fur-
ther, just by embracing a worldview which happened to develop in Germany
is not treason; if it were, millions of American Catholics would be traitors.

>>  The oath every official takes to the Constitution expands upon the consti-
>>  tutional definition, that a loyal American must defend the Constitution
>>  against all enemies, foreign AND DOMESTIC.

> 	That means you, nazi.  

No, it means the Sabbath Goyim who your kind pays to betray their country
toward the goal of a world Zionist State.

--
"Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms....freedom of thought,
 belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other
 media of communication...."
                               -- Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms


From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Dec 21 10:34:16 PST 1995
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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: Re: Treason
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Jewboy Joel Rosenberg vomits:
 
> Is it true, by the way, that Milton Kleim, Sr., has disowned you?  

Why don't you call him up, and ask him?

--
"Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms....freedom of thought,
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                               -- Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms


From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Dec 21 10:34:20 PST 1995
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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: Re: Treason
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Jewboy Joel writes:

>>> Is it true, by the way, that Milton Kleim, Sr., has disowned you?  
 
>>Why don't you call him up, and ask him?
 
> I was going to, but he apparently has done his best to drop off the face of 
> the earth -- there's apparently no Milton Kleim Sr. listed in any phone book 
> in the US.
 
> My guess is that he's changed his name, shamed at the way his son has turned 
> out to be a sleazy little nazi scumbag.  What do you think?  

He's listed under his own name in my hometown's city directory.  Just
because you're too lazy or too stupid to figure out how to find him isn't
my problem.



--
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From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Fri Dec 22 10:55:14 PST 1995
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Ken McVay replies to me:

> I don't work in a gas station now.. your news, no surprise, is
> out of date, Mr. Kleim.

That's funny.  The articles were extracted from your Website.  I guess
EVERYTHING in Nizkor's archives is inaccurate.

My apologies, Kenny, for alleging you still worked as a pump jockey.
I didn't realize your entire income was now based upon welfare handouts
>from  local synagogues and from Jewish agit-prop outfits like the ADL.

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the White
racialist organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only
the Alliance has the potential to bring us to victory!"  -- Bob Mathews


From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Fri Dec 22 11:54:19 PST 1995
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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: Re: Ken Mcvay GSA
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Ronald Schoedel (Megan@cris.com) writes:

>>In October of 1994, I worked in a gas station.

> Shortly thereafter, his employers realized what a mistake they had made in
> hiring Kenny McOyVay.  Tell us what you do now, Kenneth?  Embarrassed are you?

Actually, Kenny was being honest with us.  He DID say that all of the
filling stations around Victoria were self-serve.  THAT'S the reason Kenny
is NOW a full-time welfare leach for the Jews; they eliminated the need
for his previous labors.

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the White
racialist organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only
the Alliance has the potential to bring us to victory!"  -- Bob Mathews


From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Fri Dec 22 11:54:20 PST 1995
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Subject: Re: "Aryan Supermen" ridicule honest labourers
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Ken McVay OBC (kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca) writes:

> The interesting item in all of this, of course, is that these
> "Aryan Supermen" are saying, clearly and succinctly, that they
> are scornful of honest labourers. That does more to discredit
> them before the average working man than their racist bilge
> does.

On the contrary, I am merely demonstrating that YOU, Kenny, are no better
than the "trailer trash" and "losers" you have ridiculed in the past,
pretending to be better than they.

There is nothing wrong with doing honest labor.  There IS something wrong,
however, when a man of your age has NEVER had a real career.  You should
have OWNED the station, not just worked at it.
  

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the White
racialist organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only
the Alliance has the potential to bring us to victory!"  -- Bob Mathews


From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Dec 23 12:09:38 PST 1995
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Subject: Greetings of the Season
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Since the beginnings of our Race, our People have celebrated the rebirth 
of Nature during Yuletime.  Yule marked for them, the cessation of 
increasing cold and darkness, overtaken by lengthening daylight, 
signaling the arrival of a new year and the journey toward a bright, 
blooming Springtime.  

Today, because of modern technology, the original meaning of Yule is not 
as important to our people as it has been in the past.  However, the 
fundamental symbolism of Yule, rebirth, has the potential to represent 
triumph over another form of cold, darkness, and misery.

Centuries and millenia ago, Aryans were joyous at Yule for it meant a 
reemergence of Life.  In 1995, Aryans may look to the past, learn from 
previous life-trials, and apply the lessons our ancestors can teach us to 
today's struggle.

Our struggle today is not against temperature and the elements, but 
another menace which is just as cold, dark, and destructive.  

As we celebrate the Yule, remember our mission on this Earth, to be the 
best we can be, to uphold the chain of heritage which our ancestors' have 
passed onto us, to work toward the fulfillment of our ultimate Creator-
ordained Destiny.

Remember your family, remember your friends, and remember those millions 
who have come before us, who sacrificed more than most of us can imagine
so that we can be here today.  Celebrate our heritage among your kin, 
sharing love and joy with those who are of your Family and Folk.  The 
love you share among your own has been a tradition since the dawn of 
our kind, representing the unity which has allowed us to defeat any 
obstacle or foe.

And, do not forget, that as our predecessors endured hardship from the 
natural Order each year before the blessings of a new year arrived, so it 
is with us, that we endure hardship before the dawn of a new era shall 
manifest itself.

Onward to Destiny in 1996!

I wish you all happiness for the holidays.  

MERRY YULE, comrades!

-- Milton 
--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the White
racialist organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only
the Alliance has the potential to bring us to victory!"  -- Bob Mathews


From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Dec 23 12:09:41 PST 1995
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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: Traitors in Our midst...
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Traitors in Our Midst...


Most of my readers will have heard of, if not read, a comparatively recent
journal purporting to be a "white nationalist" publication.

I'm speaking of _American Renaissance_.

I say "purporting to be" White Nationalist for several reasons.

American Renaissance the organization has recently announced its next
conference, entitled "Vital Questions for Our Time," to be held Memorial
Day weekend.  Its advertisement, posted to USENET, Stormfront, and on the
American Renaissance Website, has some rather enlightening comments which
illustrate just how "white nationalist" American Renaissance really is.

The American Renaissance ad states their conference "is a rare opportunity to
meet the leading thinkers and boldest writers on the issues that most
affect our future."  

Quite impressive.  It brings to mind a variety of people, some of the most
politically-incorrect writers to have blessed our civilization.

The conference ad continues, "[t]his will be a remarkable group of speakers
and attendees -- undeceived, uncensored, and committed to the defense
of Western Civilization."

One would think that they're talking about men the calibre of Aleksandr
Solzhenitsyn, when using such powerful descriptions.

But just who IS American Renaissance talking about?  Who are these men
"committed to the defense of Western Civilization"?

The reader of the ad receives an unexpected, unpleasant surprise when he or
she continues on.  

The list, while including a scientist dedicated to the liberal search of
truth, J.P. Rushton, includes speakers unconscionable at a gathering
allegedly to benefit the White Race.

The first shock is speaker Michael Levin, who though a "conservative"
spokesman for eugenics, is clearly a member of the self-chosen people, that
damnable tribe responsible for most of the hell on Earth visited on countless
unfortunate men and women in dozens of Nations.  

The second shock, which appalls the sensible reader, is to find Rabbi
Meyer Schiller, a Talmudist from the thoroughly Jewish Yeshiva University
among the "top-flight speakers."  To further the abomination of featuring
a man who adheres to an ideology whose "holy" books state, "even the
best of the _Goyim_ [Gentiles] should be killed," American Renaissance has the
audacity to state Schiller is a "passionate defender of European civili-
zation." [!]

What is going on here?

Is Mr. Jared Taylor, author of _Paved with Good Intentions_, and editor of
_American Renaissance_, merely ignorant of the facts about the Jewish
Problem?  One would hope so.  However, other evidence is damning.

Taylor is a staunch supporter and writer for the "Southern League," supposedly
an organization that promotes and defends Southern culture, in particular
the culture of the Confederate States of America.  However, contradicting
Confederate Vice-President Alexander Stephens, who declared the CSA was
founded upon the principle of the inequality of the races, the "Southern
League" makes clear in a bold declaration on their Website, "Hatemongers
[sic] not Welcome," their stance on racialism.

The "Southern League's" statement, which reads as though it could be a
manifesto from the CPUSA, filled with double-talk and innuendo, dispar-
agingly refers to Stormfront, where American Renaissance finds support and
opportunity to peddle its conference and wares.  The "Southern League"
describes Stormfront as a "disreputable," ""neo-Nazi" [sic] website.  The
screed continues, "[t]he Southern League specifically and categorically
denounces and rejects the narrow, race-based agendas of web sites like
'Stormfront'."

American Renaissance is among the various organizations and associated
publications of the past few decades that assert they are working for the
defense of American ideals.  Most notable among these is the John Birch
Society, and its organ, _The New American_.  The Birch Society, as with
American Renaissance, refuses to address THE most important aspects of
America's decline.  That most important and foreboding factor is the
pervasive and destructive influence of the Jews in America and the West.  
American Renaissance and the Birchers have always failed to acknowl-
edge, indeed have denounced anyone who had the courage to bring up the
facts, that the Jews control America's media and financial institutions,
molding America's culture and economy in their own image, and steering
America's fate toward the Jewish overt goal of a world Zionist state
controlled from Jerusalem.

_American Renaissance_ is not superior in intellectual quality to other
journals, such as _Instauration_ or _National Vanguard_.  _American
Renaissance's_ authors are not more brilliant, insightful, or witty than
other Aryan writers, say William Pierce or Wilmot Robertson.  So what
accounts for American Renaissance's rapid rise and prominence in "the
Movement" after only a relatively short time?

The difference is that American Renaissance has ZOG's seal of approval.

The type of "conservative" that is the typical American Renaissance
supporter/reader is in reality an economic conservative, not a racial
conservative.  The AmRenner is one interested in conserving his money, more
than conserving his race's unique characteristics.  The fundamental
difference between economic conservatives, who are as materialistic as their
ideological cousins, the Marxists, and us, the racial conservatives, is
that we know that the beautiful and special biological traits which define
our Race are worth preserving.  Sure, the economic conservative dislikes
Blacks and Hispanics, but it's a matter of socio-economic status, not
racism.  He cares only about the money-making potential of an individual,
which is why he can embrace the Jews, who are quite adept at making money.

The economic conservative is not loyal to his race.  He's loyal to his
power and prestige, AND TO THE SYSTEM WHICH ASSURES HIM OF THEIR CONTINUANCE.
That means the economic conservative consciously supports ZOG while ZOG
destroys our People.

The economic conservative prefers a Black doctor or an Hispanic lawyer as
a neighbor, than a clean, hardworking blue-collar Aryan family.  His
class, not his race, matter.  That's one of the reasons why the attendee
of the American Renaissance conference is required to wear "jacket and tie."
To the AmRenner, "the clothes make the man."

We, the racial conservatives, realize that the Creator gave us beauty,
creativity, and virtue, not to make money, but to fulfill the Destiny
which He alotted us.   We realize that our existence on Earth is not for
pleasure and profit, but to strive for excellence, to achieve our greatest
physical and spiritual potential.

That's the difference between American Renaissance and uncompromising
Aryan organizations who believe in the 14 Words.  Every dollar wasted on
American Renaissance is a dollar given to fund the genocide of the Aryan Race,
and is a dollar deprived of those organizations fighting to preserve the
only thing worth preserving in human affairs.

-- Milton John Kleim, Jr.
--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the White
racialist organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only
the Alliance has the potential to bring us to victory!"  -- Bob Mathews


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Traitors in Our Midst...


Most of my readers will have heard of, if not read, a comparatively recent
journal purporting to be a "white nationalist" publication.

I'm speaking of _American Renaissance_.

I say "purporting to be" White Nationalist for several reasons.

American Renaissance the organization has recently announced its next
conference, entitled "Vital Questions for Our Time," to be held Memorial
Day weekend.  Its advertisement, posted to USENET, Stormfront, and on the
American Renaissance Website, has some rather enlightening comments which
illustrate just how "white nationalist" American Renaissance really is.

The American Renaissance ad states their conference "is a rare opportunity to
meet the leading thinkers and boldest writers on the issues that most
affect our future."  

Quite impressive.  It brings to mind a variety of people, some of the most
politically-incorrect writers to have blessed our civilization.

The conference ad continues, "[t]his will be a remarkable group of speakers
and attendees -- undeceived, uncensored, and committed to the defense
of Western Civilization."

One would think that they're talking about men the calibre of Aleksandr
Solzhenitsyn, when using such powerful descriptions.

But just who IS American Renaissance talking about?  Who are these men
"committed to the defense of Western Civilization"?

The reader of the ad receives an unexpected, unpleasant surprise when he or
she continues on.  

The list, while including a scientist dedicated to the liberal search of
truth, J.P. Rushton, includes speakers unconscionable at a gathering
allegedly to benefit the White Race.

The first shock is speaker Michael Levin, who though a "conservative"
spokesman for eugenics, is clearly a member of the self-chosen people, that
damnable tribe responsible for most of the hell on Earth visited on countless
unfortunate men and women in dozens of Nations.  

The second shock, which appalls the sensible reader, is to find Rabbi
Meyer Schiller, a Talmudist from the thoroughly Jewish Yeshiva University
among the "top-flight speakers."  To further the abomination of featuring
a man who adheres to an ideology whose "holy" books state, "even the
best of the _Goyim_ [Gentiles] should be killed," American Renaissance has the
audacity to state Schiller is a "passionate defender of European civili-
zation." [!]

What is going on here?

Is Mr. Jared Taylor, author of _Paved with Good Intentions_, and editor of
_American Renaissance_, merely ignorant of the facts about the Jewish
Problem?  One would hope so.  However, other evidence is damning.

Taylor is a staunch supporter and writer for the "Southern League," supposedly
an organization that promotes and defends Southern culture, in particular
the culture of the Confederate States of America.  However, contradicting
Confederate Vice-President Alexander Stephens, who declared the CSA was
founded upon the principle of the inequality of the races, the "Southern
League" makes clear in a bold declaration on their Website, "Hatemongers
[sic] not Welcome," their stance on racialism.

The "Southern League's" statement, which reads as though it could be a
manifesto from the CPUSA, filled with double-talk and innuendo, dispar-
agingly refers to Stormfront, where American Renaissance finds support and
opportunity to peddle its conference and wares.  The "Southern League"
describes Stormfront as a "disreputable," ""neo-Nazi" [sic] website.  The
screed continues, "[t]he Southern League specifically and categorically
denounces and rejects the narrow, race-based agendas of web sites like
'Stormfront'."

American Renaissance is among the various organizations and associated
publications of the past few decades that assert they are working for the
defense of American ideals.  Most notable among these is the John Birch
Society, and its organ, _The New American_.  The Birch Society, as with
American Renaissance, refuses to address THE most important aspects of
America's decline.  That most important and foreboding factor is the
pervasive and destructive influence of the Jews in America and the West.  
American Renaissance and the Birchers have always failed to acknowl-
edge, indeed have denounced anyone who had the courage to bring up the
facts, that the Jews control America's media and financial institutions,
molding America's culture and economy in their own image, and steering
America's fate toward the Jewish overt goal of a world Zionist state
controlled from Jerusalem.

_American Renaissance_ is not superior in intellectual quality to other
journals, such as _Instauration_ or _National Vanguard_.  _American
Renaissance's_ authors are not more brilliant, insightful, or witty than
other Aryan writers, say William Pierce or Wilmot Robertson.  So what
accounts for American Renaissance's rapid rise and prominence in "the
Movement" after only a relatively short time?

The difference is that American Renaissance has ZOG's seal of approval.

The type of "conservative" that is the typical American Renaissance
supporter/reader is in reality an economic conservative, not a racial
conservative.  The AmRenner is one interested in conserving his money, more
than conserving his race's unique characteristics.  The fundamental
difference between economic conservatives, who are as materialistic as their
ideological cousins, the Marxists, and us, the racial conservatives, is
that we know that the beautiful and special biological traits which define
our Race are worth preserving.  Sure, the economic conservative dislikes
Blacks and Hispanics, but it's a matter of socio-economic status, not
racism.  He cares only about the money-making potential of an individual,
which is why he can embrace the Jews, who are quite adept at making money.

The economic conservative is not loyal to his race.  He's loyal to his
power and prestige, AND TO THE SYSTEM WHICH ASSURES HIM OF THEIR CONTINUANCE.
That means the economic conservative consciously supports ZOG while ZOG
destroys our People.

The economic conservative prefers a Black doctor or an Hispanic lawyer as
a neighbor, than a clean, hardworking blue-collar Aryan family.  His
class, not his race, matter.  That's one of the reasons why the attendee
of the American Renaissance conference is required to wear "jacket and tie."
To the AmRenner, "the clothes make the man."

We, the racial conservatives, realize that the Creator gave us beauty,
creativity, and virtue, not to make money, but to fulfill the Destiny
which He alotted us.   We realize that our existence on Earth is not for
pleasure and profit, but to strive for excellence, to achieve our greatest
physical and spiritual potential.

That's the difference between American Renaissance and uncompromising
Aryan organizations who believe in the 14 Words.  Every dollar wasted on
American Renaissance is a dollar given to fund the genocide of the Aryan Race,
and is a dollar deprived of those organizations fighting to preserve the
only thing worth preserving in human affairs.

-- Milton John Kleim, Jr.
--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the White
racialist organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only
the Alliance has the potential to bring us to victory!"  -- Bob Mathews


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Fresh816 (fresh816@aol.com) writes:

> I happen to be acquainted with one of Solzhenitsyn's children.
 
> Did you know that his wife is a Jew?

Sure...

Next you'll say he's really a Commie.

> Did you know he hates Nazi scum like you?

I doubt it.  His political views are merely pan-Slavic National Socialism.
--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the White
racialist organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only
the Alliance has the potential to bring us to victory!"  -- Bob Mathews


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Subject: Traitors in Our Midst...
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Traitors in Our Midst...


Most of my readers will have heard of, if not read, a comparatively recent
journal purporting to be a "white nationalist" publication.

I'm speaking of _American Renaissance_.

I say "purporting to be" White Nationalist for several reasons.

American Renaissance the organization has recently announced its next
conference, entitled "Vital Questions for Our Time," to be held Memorial
Day weekend.  Its advertisement, posted to USENET, Stormfront, and on the
American Renaissance Website, has some rather enlightening comments which
illustrate just how "white nationalist" American Renaissance really is.

The American Renaissance ad states their conference "is a rare opportunity to
meet the leading thinkers and boldest writers on the issues that most
affect our future."  

Quite impressive.  It brings to mind a variety of people, some of the most
politically-incorrect writers to have blessed our civilization.

The conference ad continues, "[t]his will be a remarkable group of speakers
and attendees -- undeceived, uncensored, and committed to the defense
of Western Civilization."

One would think that they're talking about men the calibre of Aleksandr
Solzhenitsyn, when using such powerful descriptions.

But just who IS American Renaissance talking about?  Who are these men
"committed to the defense of Western Civilization"?

The reader of the ad receives an unexpected, unpleasant surprise when he or
she continues on.  

The list, while including a scientist dedicated to the liberal search of
truth, J.P. Rushton, includes speakers unconscionable at a gathering
allegedly to benefit the White Race.

The first shock is speaker Michael Levin, who though a "conservative"
spokesman for eugenics, is clearly a member of the self-chosen people, that
damnable tribe responsible for most of the hell on Earth visited on countless
unfortunate men and women in dozens of Nations.  

The second shock, which appalls the sensible reader, is to find Rabbi
Meyer Schiller, a Talmudist from the thoroughly Jewish Yeshiva University
among the "top-flight speakers."  To further the abomination of featuring
a man who adheres to an ideology whose "holy" books state, "even the
best of the _Goyim_ [Gentiles] should be killed," American Renaissance has the
audacity to state Schiller is a "passionate defender of European civili-
zation." [!]

What is going on here?

Is Mr. Jared Taylor, author of _Paved with Good Intentions_, and editor of
_American Renaissance_, merely ignorant of the facts about the Jewish
Problem?  One would hope so.  However, other evidence is damning.

Taylor is a staunch supporter and writer for the "Southern League," supposedly
an organization that promotes and defends Southern culture, in particular
the culture of the Confederate States of America.  However, contradicting
Confederate Vice-President Alexander Stephens, who declared the CSA was
founded upon the principle of the inequality of the races, the "Southern
League" makes clear in a bold declaration on their Website, "Hatemongers
[sic] not Welcome," their stance on racialism.

The "Southern League's" statement, which reads as though it could be a
manifesto from the CPUSA, filled with double-talk and innuendo, dispar-
agingly refers to Stormfront, where American Renaissance finds support and
opportunity to peddle its conference and wares.  The "Southern League"
describes Stormfront as a "disreputable," ""neo-Nazi" [sic] website.  The
screed continues, "[t]he Southern League specifically and categorically
denounces and rejects the narrow, race-based agendas of web sites like
'Stormfront'."

American Renaissance is among the various organizations and associated
publications of the past few decades that assert they are working for the
defense of American ideals.  Most notable among these is the John Birch
Society, and its organ, _The New American_.  The Birch Society, as with
American Renaissance, refuses to address THE most important aspects of
America's decline.  That most important and foreboding factor is the
pervasive and destructive influence of the Jews in America and the West.  
American Renaissance and the Birchers have always failed to acknowl-
edge, indeed have denounced anyone who had the courage to bring up the
facts, that the Jews control America's media and financial institutions,
molding America's culture and economy in their own image, and steering
America's fate toward the Jewish overt goal of a world Zionist state
controlled from Jerusalem.

_American Renaissance_ is not superior in intellectual quality to other
journals, such as _Instauration_ or _National Vanguard_.  _American
Renaissance's_ authors are not more brilliant, insightful, or witty than
other Aryan writers, say William Pierce or Wilmot Robertson.  So what
accounts for American Renaissance's rapid rise and prominence in "the
Movement" after only a relatively short time?

The difference is that American Renaissance has ZOG's seal of approval.

The type of "conservative" that is the typical American Renaissance
supporter/reader is in reality an economic conservative, not a racial
conservative.  The AmRenner is one interested in conserving his money, more
than conserving his race's unique characteristics.  The fundamental
difference between economic conservatives, who are as materialistic as their
ideological cousins, the Marxists, and us, the racial conservatives, is
that we know that the beautiful and special biological traits which define
our Race are worth preserving.  Sure, the economic conservative dislikes
Blacks and Hispanics, but it's a matter of socio-economic status, not
racism.  He cares only about the money-making potential of an individual,
which is why he can embrace the Jews, who are quite adept at making money.

The economic conservative is not loyal to his race.  He's loyal to his
power and prestige, AND TO THE SYSTEM WHICH ASSURES HIM OF THEIR CONTINUANCE.
That means the economic conservative consciously supports ZOG while ZOG
destroys our People.

The economic conservative prefers a Black doctor or an Hispanic lawyer as
a neighbor, than a clean, hardworking blue-collar Aryan family.  His
class, not his race, matter.  That's one of the reasons why the attendee
of the American Renaissance conference is required to wear "jacket and tie."
To the AmRenner, "the clothes make the man."

We, the racial conservatives, realize that the Creator gave us beauty,
creativity, and virtue, not to make money, but to fulfill the Destiny
which He alotted us.   We realize that our existence on Earth is not for
pleasure and profit, but to strive for excellence, to achieve our greatest
physical and spiritual potential.

That's the difference between American Renaissance and uncompromising
Aryan organizations who believe in the 14 Words.  Every dollar wasted on
American Renaissance is a dollar given to fund the genocide of the Aryan Race,
and is a dollar deprived of those organizations fighting to preserve the
only thing worth preserving in human affairs.

-- Milton John Kleim, Jr.
--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the White
racialist organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only
the Alliance has the potential to bring us to victory!"  -- Bob Mathews


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Traitors in Our Midst...


Most of my readers will have heard of, if not read, a comparatively recent
journal purporting to be a "white nationalist" publication.

I'm speaking of _American Renaissance_.

I say "purporting to be" White Nationalist for several reasons.

American Renaissance the organization has recently announced its next
conference, entitled "Vital Questions for Our Time," to be held Memorial
Day weekend.  Its advertisement, posted to USENET, Stormfront, and on the
American Renaissance Website, has some rather enlightening comments which
illustrate just how "white nationalist" American Renaissance really is.

The American Renaissance ad states their conference "is a rare opportunity to
meet the leading thinkers and boldest writers on the issues that most
affect our future."  

Quite impressive.  It brings to mind a variety of people, some of the most
politically-incorrect writers to have blessed our civilization.

The conference ad continues, "[t]his will be a remarkable group of speakers
and attendees -- undeceived, uncensored, and committed to the defense
of Western Civilization."

One would think that they're talking about men the calibre of Aleksandr
Solzhenitsyn, when using such powerful descriptions.

But just who IS American Renaissance talking about?  Who are these men
"committed to the defense of Western Civilization"?

The reader of the ad receives an unexpected, unpleasant surprise when he or
she continues on.  

The list, while including a scientist dedicated to the liberal search of
truth, J.P. Rushton, includes speakers unconscionable at a gathering
allegedly to benefit the White Race.

The first shock is speaker Michael Levin, who though a "conservative"
spokesman for eugenics, is clearly a member of the self-chosen people, that
damnable tribe responsible for most of the hell on Earth visited on countless
unfortunate men and women in dozens of Nations.  

The second shock, which appalls the sensible reader, is to find Rabbi
Meyer Schiller, a Talmudist from the thoroughly Jewish Yeshiva University
among the "top-flight speakers."  To further the abomination of featuring
a man who adheres to an ideology whose "holy" books state, "even the
best of the _Goyim_ [Gentiles] should be killed," American Renaissance has the
audacity to state Schiller is a "passionate defender of European civili-
zation." [!]

What is going on here?

Is Mr. Jared Taylor, author of _Paved with Good Intentions_, and editor of
_American Renaissance_, merely ignorant of the facts about the Jewish
Problem?  One would hope so.  However, other evidence is damning.

Taylor is a staunch supporter and writer for the "Southern League," supposedly
an organization that promotes and defends Southern culture, in particular
the culture of the Confederate States of America.  However, contradicting
Confederate Vice-President Alexander Stephens, who declared the CSA was
founded upon the principle of the inequality of the races, the "Southern
League" makes clear in a bold declaration on their Website, "Hatemongers
[sic] not Welcome," their stance on racialism.

The "Southern League's" statement, which reads as though it could be a
manifesto from the CPUSA, filled with double-talk and innuendo, dispar-
agingly refers to Stormfront, where American Renaissance finds support and
opportunity to peddle its conference and wares.  The "Southern League"
describes Stormfront as a "disreputable," ""neo-Nazi" [sic] website.  The
screed continues, "[t]he Southern League specifically and categorically
denounces and rejects the narrow, race-based agendas of web sites like
'Stormfront'."

American Renaissance is among the various organizations and associated
publications of the past few decades that assert they are working for the
defense of American ideals.  Most notable among these is the John Birch
Society, and its organ, _The New American_.  The Birch Society, as with
American Renaissance, refuses to address THE most important aspects of
America's decline.  That most important and foreboding factor is the
pervasive and destructive influence of the Jews in America and the West.  
American Renaissance and the Birchers have always failed to acknowl-
edge, indeed have denounced anyone who had the courage to bring up the
facts, that the Jews control America's media and financial institutions,
molding America's culture and economy in their own image, and steering
America's fate toward the Jewish overt goal of a world Zionist state
controlled from Jerusalem.

_American Renaissance_ is not superior in intellectual quality to other
journals, such as _Instauration_ or _National Vanguard_.  _American
Renaissance's_ authors are not more brilliant, insightful, or witty than
other Aryan writers, say William Pierce or Wilmot Robertson.  So what
accounts for American Renaissance's rapid rise and prominence in "the
Movement" after only a relatively short time?

The difference is that American Renaissance has ZOG's seal of approval.

The type of "conservative" that is the typical American Renaissance
supporter/reader is in reality an economic conservative, not a racial
conservative.  The AmRenner is one interested in conserving his money, more
than conserving his race's unique characteristics.  The fundamental
difference between economic conservatives, who are as materialistic as their
ideological cousins, the Marxists, and us, the racial conservatives, is
that we know that the beautiful and special biological traits which define
our Race are worth preserving.  Sure, the economic conservative dislikes
Blacks and Hispanics, but it's a matter of socio-economic status, not
racism.  He cares only about the money-making potential of an individual,
which is why he can embrace the Jews, who are quite adept at making money.

The economic conservative is not loyal to his race.  He's loyal to his
power and prestige, AND TO THE SYSTEM WHICH ASSURES HIM OF THEIR CONTINUANCE.
That means the economic conservative consciously supports ZOG while ZOG
destroys our People.

The economic conservative prefers a Black doctor or an Hispanic lawyer as
a neighbor, than a clean, hardworking blue-collar Aryan family.  His
class, not his race, matter.  That's one of the reasons why the attendee
of the American Renaissance conference is required to wear "jacket and tie."
To the AmRenner, "the clothes make the man."

We, the racial conservatives, realize that the Creator gave us beauty,
creativity, and virtue, not to make money, but to fulfill the Destiny
which He alotted us.   We realize that our existence on Earth is not for
pleasure and profit, but to strive for excellence, to achieve our greatest
physical and spiritual potential.

That's the difference between American Renaissance and uncompromising
Aryan organizations who believe in the 14 Words.  Every dollar wasted on
American Renaissance is a dollar given to fund the genocide of the Aryan Race,
and is a dollar deprived of those organizations fighting to preserve the
only thing worth preserving in human affairs.

-- Milton John Kleim, Jr.
--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the White
racialist organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only
the Alliance has the potential to bring us to victory!"  -- Bob Mathews


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Subject: Traitors in Our Midst...
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Traitors in Our Midst...


Most of my readers will have heard of, if not read, a comparatively recent
journal purporting to be a "white nationalist" publication.

I'm speaking of _American Renaissance_.

I say "purporting to be" White Nationalist for several reasons.

American Renaissance the organization has recently announced its next
conference, entitled "Vital Questions for Our Time," to be held Memorial
Day weekend.  Its advertisement, posted to USENET, Stormfront, and on the
American Renaissance Website, has some rather enlightening comments which
illustrate just how "white nationalist" American Renaissance really is.

The American Renaissance ad states their conference "is a rare opportunity to
meet the leading thinkers and boldest writers on the issues that most
affect our future."  

Quite impressive.  It brings to mind a variety of people, some of the most
politically-incorrect writers to have blessed our civilization.

The conference ad continues, "[t]his will be a remarkable group of speakers
and attendees -- undeceived, uncensored, and committed to the defense
of Western Civilization."

One would think that they're talking about men the calibre of Aleksandr
Solzhenitsyn, when using such powerful descriptions.

But just who IS American Renaissance talking about?  Who are these men
"committed to the defense of Western Civilization"?

The reader of the ad receives an unexpected, unpleasant surprise when he or
she continues on.  

The list, while including a scientist dedicated to the liberal search of
truth, J.P. Rushton, includes speakers unconscionable at a gathering
allegedly to benefit the White Race.

The first shock is speaker Michael Levin, who though a "conservative"
spokesman for eugenics, is clearly a member of the self-chosen people, that
damnable tribe responsible for most of the hell on Earth visited on countless
unfortunate men and women in dozens of Nations.  

The second shock, which appalls the sensible reader, is to find Rabbi
Meyer Schiller, a Talmudist from the thoroughly Jewish Yeshiva University
among the "top-flight speakers."  To further the abomination of featuring
a man who adheres to an ideology whose "holy" books state, "even the
best of the _Goyim_ [Gentiles] should be killed," American Renaissance has the
audacity to state Schiller is a "passionate defender of European civili-
zation." [!]

What is going on here?

Is Mr. Jared Taylor, author of _Paved with Good Intentions_, and editor of
_American Renaissance_, merely ignorant of the facts about the Jewish
Problem?  One would hope so.  However, other evidence is damning.

Taylor is a staunch supporter and writer for the "Southern League," supposedly
an organization that promotes and defends Southern culture, in particular
the culture of the Confederate States of America.  However, contradicting
Confederate Vice-President Alexander Stephens, who declared the CSA was
founded upon the principle of the inequality of the races, the "Southern
League" makes clear in a bold declaration on their Website, "Hatemongers
[sic] not Welcome," their stance on racialism.

The "Southern League's" statement, which reads as though it could be a
manifesto from the CPUSA, filled with double-talk and innuendo, dispar-
agingly refers to Stormfront, where American Renaissance finds support and
opportunity to peddle its conference and wares.  The "Southern League"
describes Stormfront as a "disreputable," ""neo-Nazi" [sic] website.  The
screed continues, "[t]he Southern League specifically and categorically
denounces and rejects the narrow, race-based agendas of web sites like
'Stormfront'."

American Renaissance is among the various organizations and associated
publications of the past few decades that assert they are working for the
defense of American ideals.  Most notable among these is the John Birch
Society, and its organ, _The New American_.  The Birch Society, as with
American Renaissance, refuses to address THE most important aspects of
America's decline.  That most important and foreboding factor is the
pervasive and destructive influence of the Jews in America and the West.  
American Renaissance and the Birchers have always failed to acknowl-
edge, indeed have denounced anyone who had the courage to bring up the
facts, that the Jews control America's media and financial institutions,
molding America's culture and economy in their own image, and steering
America's fate toward the Jewish overt goal of a world Zionist state
controlled from Jerusalem.

_American Renaissance_ is not superior in intellectual quality to other
journals, such as _Instauration_ or _National Vanguard_.  _American
Renaissance's_ authors are not more brilliant, insightful, or witty than
other Aryan writers, say William Pierce or Wilmot Robertson.  So what
accounts for American Renaissance's rapid rise and prominence in "the
Movement" after only a relatively short time?

The difference is that American Renaissance has ZOG's seal of approval.

The type of "conservative" that is the typical American Renaissance
supporter/reader is in reality an economic conservative, not a racial
conservative.  The AmRenner is one interested in conserving his money, more
than conserving his race's unique characteristics.  The fundamental
difference between economic conservatives, who are as materialistic as their
ideological cousins, the Marxists, and us, the racial conservatives, is
that we know that the beautiful and special biological traits which define
our Race are worth preserving.  Sure, the economic conservative dislikes
Blacks and Hispanics, but it's a matter of socio-economic status, not
racism.  He cares only about the money-making potential of an individual,
which is why he can embrace the Jews, who are quite adept at making money.

The economic conservative is not loyal to his race.  He's loyal to his
power and prestige, AND TO THE SYSTEM WHICH ASSURES HIM OF THEIR CONTINUANCE.
That means the economic conservative consciously supports ZOG while ZOG
destroys our People.

The economic conservative prefers a Black doctor or an Hispanic lawyer as
a neighbor, than a clean, hardworking blue-collar Aryan family.  His
class, not his race, matter.  That's one of the reasons why the attendee
of the American Renaissance conference is required to wear "jacket and tie."
To the AmRenner, "the clothes make the man."

We, the racial conservatives, realize that the Creator gave us beauty,
creativity, and virtue, not to make money, but to fulfill the Destiny
which He alotted us.   We realize that our existence on Earth is not for
pleasure and profit, but to strive for excellence, to achieve our greatest
physical and spiritual potential.

That's the difference between American Renaissance and uncompromising
Aryan organizations who believe in the 14 Words.  Every dollar wasted on
American Renaissance is a dollar given to fund the genocide of the Aryan Race,
and is a dollar deprived of those organizations fighting to preserve the
only thing worth preserving in human affairs.

-- Milton John Kleim, Jr.
--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the White
racialist organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only
the Alliance has the potential to bring us to victory!"  -- Bob Mathews


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Subject: Traitors in Our Midst...
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Traitors in Our Midst...


Most of my readers will have heard of, if not read, a comparatively recent
journal purporting to be a "white nationalist" publication.

I'm speaking of _American Renaissance_.

I say "purporting to be" White Nationalist for several reasons.

American Renaissance the organization has recently announced its next
conference, entitled "Vital Questions for Our Time," to be held Memorial
Day weekend.  Its advertisement, posted to USENET, Stormfront, and on the
American Renaissance Website, has some rather enlightening comments which
illustrate just how "white nationalist" American Renaissance really is.

The American Renaissance ad states their conference "is a rare opportunity to
meet the leading thinkers and boldest writers on the issues that most
affect our future."  

Quite impressive.  It brings to mind a variety of people, some of the most
politically-incorrect writers to have blessed our civilization.

The conference ad continues, "[t]his will be a remarkable group of speakers
and attendees -- undeceived, uncensored, and committed to the defense
of Western Civilization."

One would think that they're talking about men the calibre of Aleksandr
Solzhenitsyn, when using such powerful descriptions.

But just who IS American Renaissance talking about?  Who are these men
"committed to the defense of Western Civilization"?

The reader of the ad receives an unexpected, unpleasant surprise when he or
she continues on.  

The list, while including a scientist dedicated to the liberal search of
truth, J.P. Rushton, includes speakers unconscionable at a gathering
allegedly to benefit the White Race.

The first shock is speaker Michael Levin, who though a "conservative"
spokesman for eugenics, is clearly a member of the self-chosen people, that
damnable tribe responsible for most of the hell on Earth visited on countless
unfortunate men and women in dozens of Nations.  

The second shock, which appalls the sensible reader, is to find Rabbi
Meyer Schiller, a Talmudist from the thoroughly Jewish Yeshiva University
among the "top-flight speakers."  To further the abomination of featuring
a man who adheres to an ideology whose "holy" books state, "even the
best of the _Goyim_ [Gentiles] should be killed," American Renaissance has the
audacity to state Schiller is a "passionate defender of European civili-
zation." [!]

What is going on here?

Is Mr. Jared Taylor, author of _Paved with Good Intentions_, and editor of
_American Renaissance_, merely ignorant of the facts about the Jewish
Problem?  One would hope so.  However, other evidence is damning.

Taylor is a staunch supporter and writer for the "Southern League," supposedly
an organization that promotes and defends Southern culture, in particular
the culture of the Confederate States of America.  However, contradicting
Confederate Vice-President Alexander Stephens, who declared the CSA was
founded upon the principle of the inequality of the races, the "Southern
League" makes clear in a bold declaration on their Website, "Hatemongers
[sic] not Welcome," their stance on racialism.

The "Southern League's" statement, which reads as though it could be a
manifesto from the CPUSA, filled with double-talk and innuendo, dispar-
agingly refers to Stormfront, where American Renaissance finds support and
opportunity to peddle its conference and wares.  The "Southern League"
describes Stormfront as a "disreputable," ""neo-Nazi" [sic] website.  The
screed continues, "[t]he Southern League specifically and categorically
denounces and rejects the narrow, race-based agendas of web sites like
'Stormfront'."

American Renaissance is among the various organizations and associated
publications of the past few decades that assert they are working for the
defense of American ideals.  Most notable among these is the John Birch
Society, and its organ, _The New American_.  The Birch Society, as with
American Renaissance, refuses to address THE most important aspects of
America's decline.  That most important and foreboding factor is the
pervasive and destructive influence of the Jews in America and the West.  
American Renaissance and the Birchers have always failed to acknowl-
edge, indeed have denounced anyone who had the courage to bring up the
facts, that the Jews control America's media and financial institutions,
molding America's culture and economy in their own image, and steering
America's fate toward the Jewish overt goal of a world Zionist state
controlled from Jerusalem.

_American Renaissance_ is not superior in intellectual quality to other
journals, such as _Instauration_ or _National Vanguard_.  _American
Renaissance's_ authors are not more brilliant, insightful, or witty than
other Aryan writers, say William Pierce or Wilmot Robertson.  So what
accounts for American Renaissance's rapid rise and prominence in "the
Movement" after only a relatively short time?

The difference is that American Renaissance has ZOG's seal of approval.

The type of "conservative" that is the typical American Renaissance
supporter/reader is in reality an economic conservative, not a racial
conservative.  The AmRenner is one interested in conserving his money, more
than conserving his race's unique characteristics.  The fundamental
difference between economic conservatives, who are as materialistic as their
ideological cousins, the Marxists, and us, the racial conservatives, is
that we know that the beautiful and special biological traits which define
our Race are worth preserving.  Sure, the economic conservative dislikes
Blacks and Hispanics, but it's a matter of socio-economic status, not
racism.  He cares only about the money-making potential of an individual,
which is why he can embrace the Jews, who are quite adept at making money.

The economic conservative is not loyal to his race.  He's loyal to his
power and prestige, AND TO THE SYSTEM WHICH ASSURES HIM OF THEIR CONTINUANCE.
That means the economic conservative consciously supports ZOG while ZOG
destroys our People.

The economic conservative prefers a Black doctor or an Hispanic lawyer as
a neighbor, than a clean, hardworking blue-collar Aryan family.  His
class, not his race, matter.  That's one of the reasons why the attendee
of the American Renaissance conference is required to wear "jacket and tie."
To the AmRenner, "the clothes make the man."

We, the racial conservatives, realize that the Creator gave us beauty,
creativity, and virtue, not to make money, but to fulfill the Destiny
which He alotted us.   We realize that our existence on Earth is not for
pleasure and profit, but to strive for excellence, to achieve our greatest
physical and spiritual potential.

That's the difference between American Renaissance and uncompromising
Aryan organizations who believe in the 14 Words.  Every dollar wasted on
American Renaissance is a dollar given to fund the genocide of the Aryan Race,
and is a dollar deprived of those organizations fighting to preserve the
only thing worth preserving in human affairs.

-- Milton John Kleim, Jr.
--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the White
racialist organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only
the Alliance has the potential to bring us to victory!"  -- Bob Mathews


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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: Re: MORONS that deny the Holocaust
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Kyle Moline (dawnlyn@sundial.net) writes:

> The Holocaust perpetated against the jews by the German Nazis was the most 
> thoroughly documented event in human history.  

Perhaps you'd like to "enlighten" us, and provide the following to prove
your assertions:

1) a written order from Hitler (or Himmler) ordering that Jews be
   exterminated;

2) the blueprints of the ORIGINAL "gas chambers" at Auschwitz-Birkenau;

3) the original census documents which demonstrate over "six million" Jews
   were "missing" and presumed "gassed/shot/steamed/electrocuted" by the
   Germans.

> Hitler made sure that the world had no choice but punish Germany.  

Punish Germany like with the "Allied" policy of "8 to 80," i.e. the rape
campaign in Berlin against German girls/women 8 to 80?

Or expel millions, and cause millions of deaths, of Germans from their
ancient homelands in East Prussia, Silesia, and the Sudetenland, in
violation of international law?

Your statement reeks of the sentiments of an abusive father, who tells his
children after an alcohol-guzzling spree, "You leave me no choice but to
beat you!"

> The reason for the extinsive documentation of the Holocaust was the
> absolute pervesion of the sadists who ran the Death Camps.

Translation: the SS sadists made "lampshades" and "soap," which "PROVES" the
"Holocaust."

> The abominations that they committed were so unbelievable that witnesses knew 
> that human nature would be to deny that it was humanly possible for a society 
> to become so sick that this type atrocity could occur.  

Is THAT why Roosevelt and Churchill allied American and Britain with
Stalinist Russia?!?  They just couldn't believe he slaughtered millions.

> If you are reading this and you are a white-supremisist please ask one
> of you educated aquaintences to show you to the library.  

I guess by "white-supremisist" [sic] you mean anyone who dares question
the (non) reality of the "Holocaust."

And is that "educated," or re-educated?

> The librarian can show you the resorce materials.  Many of them have
> alot of pictures, so you will have something to look at. 

I've looked at every Hoaxocaust related work in my university library, and
I STILL haven't found one thing that PROVES the "Holocaust."  Lots of
allegations; no real documentation.

As for pictures, I've seen alot of atrocious photos...like of corpses in
East Prussia in 1945, like of charred babies in Dresden in February 1945,
like of emaciated kids in Ukraine in 1930...


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the White
racialist organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only
the Alliance has the potential to bring us to victory!"  -- Bob Mathews


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Subject: Re: McVay Refuses To Answer Another Question!!!
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Country Ron (an470270@anon.penet.fi) writes:

>>call the cops, joel.  pick up the phone and call the cops.
 
> Joel hasn't the balls to do it.  I understand his dog bit them
> off...yeah, Joel's into doggie S/M I hear.  

Are you sure he had any to begin with?

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the White
racialist organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only
the Alliance has the potential to bring us to victory!"  -- Bob Mathews


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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: Re: Traitors in Our Midst...
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Frank Weltner, Mr. Potato Head, writes:

> Oh, those feisty Jews again! Oh, no! God made a BIG mistake!

Which "god" are you speaking of?  The one up, or the one down?

> Every dollar wasted on
> :American Renaissance is a dollar given to fund the genocide of the Aryan Race,
> :and is a dollar deprived of those organizations fighting to preserve the
> :only thing worth preserving in human affairs.
 
> Please. Give me a break. It's the other way around. Every dollar wasted on
> Nazi's is a dollar wasted. Don't you ever get it? Hitler was a loser.
> Stalin was a loser. Tyranny is a loser. Blacks are losers, too, but I'd
> rather have those black murderers across the street in the Section 8
> House, as a I do, than have Adolf Hitler's stinking SS Troops knocking my
> door. No way, man. I believe in the Constitution, Freedom of Speech, and
> the right to live life without criminal elements--and Hitlerism is a
> criminal element, and what's worse, criminals running a government and a
> military. Tisk. How dumb.

The fact of the matter is that you, Mr. Weltner, are a Jew.  That, and not
any supposed adherence to American Ideals, is why you are opposed to
National Socialism.  You don't like Blacks because you're a Hymie, but you
despise even more what a TRUE White man would welcome with open arms:
uncompromising defenders of Aryan culture, the SS.

I dealt with a character much like you in California.  Name was Katz,
claimed to be "Christian"; looked like a Jew, acted like a Jew, and spoke
the same line you're spouting.

If it waddles like a duck, if it quacks like a duck...

People like you who claim Hitler was a "loser" must, if your logic is
consistent, also claim Jesus Christ was also a "failure" and a "loser."
Hitler and his Vision didn't fail; the German Armed Forces failed to win.

> :"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
> :squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the White
> :racialist organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only
> :the Alliance has the potential to bring us to victory!"  -- Bob Mathews
 
> I think we whites will survive okay without you, if you really want to
> know. We survived thousands of years before National Socialismos and we
> can survive Post National Socialismos for an equal amount of time. You are
> a sorry footnote to an otherwise fairly grand white history.

Come, come, Mr. Weltner.  You are not White.  You are a member of that
eternal pest, the self-chosen people.  The truth of the matter is that we
Whites will do just fine without you Jewboys; we did for thousands of
years, and we will once again after we've done what EVERY people who have
had to deal with your kind has done.

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the White
racialist organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only
the Alliance has the potential to bring us to victory!"  -- Bob Mathews


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Subject: Re: What is the aim of White Nationalists?
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Caesar (Caesar@augur.demon.co.uk) writes:

> What exactly are the aims of white nationalists?

To secure the existence of our People and a future for White children.

> Do they want an independent white state somewhere, or do they
> just want to kill everyone who doesn't have the same amount
> of skin pigmentation as them?

We will establish an Aryan State based on Aryan values, free of alien
influence and members of alien races, with a progressive, just social
order, having as it's greatest aim the evolution of Aryans toward our
ultimate physical and spiritual potential.

We do not seek to oppress or otherwise harm non-Whites, including Jews. 
However, we are prepared to do what is necessary to secure our biological
and cultural heritage.  The establishment of an "Aryan Confederation" will
be as peaceful, or as painful, as non-Whites, in particular, Jewry, wish
it to be.
--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the White
racialist organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only
the Alliance has the potential to bring us to victory!"  -- Bob Mathews


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>From: mkleim@aol.com (MKleim)
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>
>Recently, two articles in controlled-media organs dealt with disturbing
>trends within our state, and the region in general.
>
>The first of these articles, "Midwest new hub for Hispanics," _USA Today_,
>12/15, concerned the increase of Mexicans in Minnesota communities such as
>Willmar, the chief focus of the piece.
>
>The second of these articles, "State is urged to stem racism:
>multicultural education called key to diversity," _StarTribune_, 12/25,
>concerned the efforts of the ultra-left to impose their "diversity"
>programs on Minnesota communities, in particular, St. Cloud.  One
>individual cited in this work even implied that communities reluctant to
>surrender to their schemes must be "forced" to comply.
>
>I'm originally from the Sacramento area, and moved to Minnesota in 1993
>both to attend school, and begin a new life free of the ravages of "multi-
>culturalism" visited upon my home state.  I know from first-hand exper-
>ience just what "multiculturalism" will mean to Minnesota, as many
>unfortunate Minnesotans in Willmar, Marshall, Worthington, and of course,
>the Twin Cities, already know.  Contrary to the pleasant-sounding myths
>peddled by the purveyors of "pluralism," the "diversity" they and their
>allies in the controlled media speak of invariably leads to a loss of
>civility and sense of community for those areas unfortunate enough to
>suffer from their nightmare.  The target community suffers drug-peddling
>(the ever-present marker of "multiculturalism"), decreased school
>standards, and dangerous streets (where before everyone felt -- and was --
>safe).
>
>There is nothing we can do on a local level to stop the disaster the
>ultra-left seeks to impose on our homes.  However, we can slow them down
>by speaking out swiftly and sternly whenever they peddle their
>socially-destructive schemes or use a real or contrived unfortunate
>incident to advance their cause.
>
>I realize that many of the people reading this know what I say is
>absolutely true.  I also understand that many will not wish to speak out
>for fear of reprisals from the ultra-left/"minority" trouble-makers in
>their community.  But -- we MUST speak out, to preserve, for as long as
>possible, the security of our homes and families by opposing openly the
>criminal designs directed against us.
>
>Don't get mad; get organized!
>
>-- Milton John Kleim, Jr.
>
>--
>
>http://stormfront.wat.com/stormfront/


From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Fri Dec 29 02:41:59 PST 1995
Article: 12510 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: Re: Not even the National Alliance will touch the _Protocols_!
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Bryan Cowan (moo@value.net) writes:

> I just got my National Alliance catalog and-suprise!-the _Protocols of the
> Learned Elders of Zion_ isn't in it. I wonder why even the National
> Alliance won't offer this book. 

Perhaps because Dr. Pierce doesn't want morons buying the book, and using
it to "prove" Jewry's rule of the world.  The facts are easy to obtain
>from  standard reference sources; we don't need a doctored work to cloud
the issue.
--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the White
racialist organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only
the Alliance has the potential to bring us to victory!"  -- Bob Mathews


From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Fri Dec 29 02:49:26 PST 1995
Article: 12510 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: Re: Not even the National Alliance will touch the _Protocols_!
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Bryan Cowan (moo@value.net) writes:

> I just got my National Alliance catalog and-suprise!-the _Protocols of the
> Learned Elders of Zion_ isn't in it. I wonder why even the National
> Alliance won't offer this book. 

Perhaps because Dr. Pierce doesn't want morons buying the book, and using
it to "prove" Jewry's rule of the world.  The facts are easy to obtain
>from  standard reference sources; we don't need a doctored work to cloud
the issue.
--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the White
racialist organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only
the Alliance has the potential to bring us to victory!"  -- Bob Mathews


From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Fri Dec 29 03:04:40 PST 1995
Article: 12510 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: Re: Not even the National Alliance will touch the _Protocols_!
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Bryan Cowan (moo@value.net) writes:

> I just got my National Alliance catalog and-suprise!-the _Protocols of the
> Learned Elders of Zion_ isn't in it. I wonder why even the National
> Alliance won't offer this book. 

Perhaps because Dr. Pierce doesn't want morons buying the book, and using
it to "prove" Jewry's rule of the world.  The facts are easy to obtain
>from  standard reference sources; we don't need a doctored work to cloud
the issue.
--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the White
racialist organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only
the Alliance has the potential to bring us to victory!"  -- Bob Mathews


From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Fri Dec 29 17:00:01 PST 1995
Article: 17936 of alt.revisionism
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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: Re: More Treason from Kleim
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Yid Edeikike vomits:

I asked Kenny Mcvay --

>>  As for your statement about the National Alliance "planning" to ex-
>>  terminate the Jews, I challenge you to cite ANY official document or
>>  work from the National Alliance National Office, the only agency that has
>>  the authority to make National Alliance policy, that advocates the
>>  extermination of the Jews as official National Alliance policy.

>>  Either cite such an example, or retract your allegation.
 
Yid replies --

> 	"The Turner Diaries"  which advocates the overthrow of
> the government of the United States by force and violence and further
> advocates hanging Jews from every lamp-post.  Case closed, nazi.

_The Turner Diaires_ is a work of FICTION, about a group of freedom-
fighters who implement a second American revolution after the government
violates the Constitution and bans private possession of ALL firearms, and
institutes other forms of repression against American citizens.  

Are you alleging that novels are "official policy" for all companies who
publish politically-incorrect works?  Does that mean that Salman Rushdie's
publisher hates Islam?

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the White
racialist organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only
the Alliance has the potential to bring us to victory!"  -- Bob Mathews


From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Dec 30 09:46:19 PST 1995
Article: 18038 of alt.revisionism
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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: Re: More Treason from Kleim
Message-ID: 
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william c anderson replies to me:

> : _The Turner Diaires_ is a work of FICTION, about a group of freedom-
> : fighters who implement a second American revolution after the government
> : violates the Constitution and bans private possession of ALL firearms, and
> : institutes other forms of repression against American citizens.  
 
> After which the bold Aryan heroes proceed to hang Joos, Mudpuppies and
> Race Traitors from lamp posts.  I never finished the book, so I'm not
> sure if the Noble Aryan Sperm resumed its flow thereafter...

If you didn't finish the book, you cannot accurately comment on it.

I suspect your impressions of the book are from the _New York Times_ and
not directly from the pages of _the Turner Diaries_.

> : Are you alleging that novels are "official policy" for all companies who
> : publish politically-incorrect works?  Does that mean that Salman Rushdie's
> : publisher hates Islam?
 
> No, nor does Rushdie, from what I can tell.  Furthermore, nobody ever
> advocated using _The Satanic Verses_ as a blueprint for action, as the
> Aryan Nations and the Order did with _The Turner Diaries_.

A publisher is not responsible for people imitating what is written as
fiction.  If that were the case, then Harcourt, Brace would be guilty as
Hell for the government's imitation of _1984_.

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the White
racialist organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only
the Alliance has the potential to bring us to victory!"  -- Bob Mathews


From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Dec 30 09:46:19 PST 1995
Article: 18040 of alt.revisionism
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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: Re: More Treason from Kleim
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Yid Edeikike spews:

>>  >>  As for your statement about the National Alliance "planning" to ex-
>>  >>  terminate the Jews, I challenge you to cite ANY official document or
>>  >>  work from the National Alliance National Office, the only agency that has
>>  >>  the authority to make National Alliance policy, that advocates the
>>  >>  extermination of the Jews as official National Alliance policy.
  
>>  >>  Either cite such an example, or retract your allegation.
 
> 	And your challenge was met.

It was not.

>>  _The Turner Diaires_ is a work of FICTION, about a group of freedom-
>>  fighters who implement a second American revolution after the government
>>  violates the Constitution and bans private possession of ALL firearms, and
>>  institutes other forms of repression against American citizens.  
  
>>  Are you alleging that novels are "official policy" for all companies who
>>  publish politically-incorrect works?  Does that mean that Salman Rushdie's
>>  publisher hates Islam?

> 	It is almost funny to watch you nazis twist and turns when caught
> on the hooks of your own words.  Please note the following:
 
> 	1.  Rushdie did not hate Islam nor did his book advocate such hate.
> "The Turner Diaries" (and I did read it) was written by a bigot and advocates
> the murder of Blacks and Jews for no other reason than that they are Blacks
> and Jews.

I didn't say Rushdie hates Islam.  But following your side's invalid
premise, it would be reasonable to assume he WAS advocating hatred of
Islamic Ideals and institutions.

A novel "advocates" nothing.  Did _1984_ advocate dictatorship?

> 	2.  "The Satanic Verses" advocates no action.  "The Turner Diaries"
> does, in fact, advocate the overthrow of the United States by force and violence
> and the murder of Blacks and Jews.  It has been used by several groups, including
> the Order, as both inspiration and blueprint.

_The Turner Diaries_, as a work of FICTION (look up the definition),
cannot "advocate" anything.  Again, does _1984_ advocate dictatorship?

> 	3.  The publishers of Rushdie's novels are businessmen without
> a political agenda.  The publisher of "The Turner Diaries" is the author who
> has a poltical agenda which includes the overthrow of the United States by
> force and violence and the murder of those whose politics he dislikes and,
> of course, Jews and Blacks.

Cite official National Alliance policy statements to back up your (false)
allegations.  If you refsue to do so, it must be assumed you are incapable
of citing them (because they don't exist).

> 	4.  In your statements advocating treason against the United States,
> you used exactly the same rhetoric and justifications as you claim are present
> in "The Turner Diaries" which advocates the overthrow of the United States
> by force and violence and the murder of Blacks and Jews.

I challenge you to cite where I have "advocated treason" against the
United States.  I challenge you to explain how a work of fiction can
"advocate" anything.
--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the White
racialist organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only
the Alliance has the potential to bring us to victory!"  -- Bob Mathews


From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Dec 30 09:46:20 PST 1995
Article: 18041 of alt.revisionism
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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: Re: More Treason from Kleim
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Charles R.L. Power writes:

>>_The Turner Diaires_ is a work of FICTION, about a group of freedom-
>>fighters who implement a second American revolution after the government
>>violates the Constitution and bans private possession of ALL firearms, and
>>institutes other forms of repression against American citizens.  
 
> And, if descriptions I've read are correct, it includes descriptions of
> mass murder of Jews and Blacks by the novel's *heroes*. This is why
> respectable booksellers don't stock this piece of trash, and why it's
> reasonable to assume that ideologically-oriented organizations which do
> sell it (i.e., which are not even in the business of general bookselling)
> approve of genocide.

The reason why "respectable" [sic] booksellers, who freely promote garbage
>from  NAMBLA which advocates child molestation, as well as crime novels
describing vicious mass murder, is that _the Turner Diaries_ has WAY too
powerful messages for White people, something which the Jewish-owned book
peddlers don't want White people to even think about.  It might just cause
some brainwashed folk to THINK about the fundamental causes of today's
social problems.

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the White
racialist organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only
the Alliance has the potential to bring us to victory!"  -- Bob Mathews


From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Dec 30 09:46:22 PST 1995
Article: 18091 of alt.revisionism
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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: Death threats & anti-Slavic bigotry from phony "German" Jimmy Weiss
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Got this pleasant communique from our friend Jimmy Weiss, the Jew posing
as a German (and Kaltenbrunner's grandson, even!), who claims to be posting
>from  Germany, on a New York City-based server:

Take especial note of the "title" he gave himself (I'm REALLLY scared, but
we should never fail to address the threats of the "lovers" and "anti-
racists"):


>From  white@pipeline.com  Sat Dec 30 09:03:11 1995
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Subject: Re: Who Writes the Agenda for this NG was: (Re: Two New York Massacres)
From: white@pipeline.com (James W. White)
 
>Then provide your TELNET capable German server's address, unless you are 
>indeed lying, and are truly posting from Jew York.  I really think you're 
>Jew named Weiss who pretends to be German. 
 
You are nothing but stupid Slavic Untermenschen.  You should be banished
>from  every civilized country.  You have the mentality of a Chimpanzee and
you pretend to be some Aryan superman.  You have not the mental ability of
the people you put down.  What are your achievements in life?  Name one
patent you hold?  What is your basis for claiming superiority over anyone? 
All you do is cower on the net and send out hate mail and literature which
you peddle for money.  You are nothing and you came from nothing and you
will never be anything.  A National Socialist revolution will not be
brought about by idiots and morons like yourself. 
 
As for my German credentials, my grandfather was SS Obergruppenfuhrer Ernst
Kaltenbrunner, chief of the Gestapo from 01.31.1943 till the end of the war
in Europe.  Not only am I Aryan but I was bred to be Aryan. 
 
>The English speaking world, as well as Russia, Spain, the South American 
>countries, etc. 
 
But not for long.  Then where will you go because we are going to get your
American citizenship revoked?  We have a complete dossier on you.  We also
have a complete list of all your aliases. 
 
-- 
 
James W. White 
 
The Seven Teutonic Knights Organization   
High Executioner  
 
--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the White
racialist organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only
the Alliance has the potential to bring us to victory!"  -- Bob Mathews


From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Dec 30 10:59:24 PST 1995
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Subject: Death threats & anti-Slavic bigotry from phony "German" Jimmy Weiss
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Got this pleasant communique from our friend Jimmy Weiss, the Jew posing
as a German (and Kaltenbrunner's grandson, even!), who claims to be posting
>from  Germany, on a New York City-based server:

Take especial note of the "title" he gave himself (I'm REALLLY scared, but
we should never fail to address the threats of the "lovers" and "anti-
racists"):


>From  white@pipeline.com  Sat Dec 30 09:03:11 1995
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To: bb748@freenet.carleton.ca
Subject: Re: Who Writes the Agenda for this NG was: (Re: Two New York Massacres)
From: white@pipeline.com (James W. White)
 
>Then provide your TELNET capable German server's address, unless you are 
>indeed lying, and are truly posting from Jew York.  I really think you're 
>Jew named Weiss who pretends to be German. 
 
You are nothing but stupid Slavic Untermenschen.  You should be banished
>from  every civilized country.  You have the mentality of a Chimpanzee and
you pretend to be some Aryan superman.  You have not the mental ability of
the people you put down.  What are your achievements in life?  Name one
patent you hold?  What is your basis for claiming superiority over anyone? 
All you do is cower on the net and send out hate mail and literature which
you peddle for money.  You are nothing and you came from nothing and you
will never be anything.  A National Socialist revolution will not be
brought about by idiots and morons like yourself. 
 
As for my German credentials, my grandfather was SS Obergruppenfuhrer Ernst
Kaltenbrunner, chief of the Gestapo from 01.31.1943 till the end of the war
in Europe.  Not only am I Aryan but I was bred to be Aryan. 
 
>The English speaking world, as well as Russia, Spain, the South American 
>countries, etc. 
 
But not for long.  Then where will you go because we are going to get your
American citizenship revoked?  We have a complete dossier on you.  We also
have a complete list of all your aliases. 
 
-- 
 
James W. White 
 
The Seven Teutonic Knights Organization   
High Executioner  
 
--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the White
racialist organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only
the Alliance has the potential to bring us to victory!"  -- Bob Mathews


From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Dec 30 12:08:19 PST 1995
Article: 12760 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: Re: If Hitler didn't kill the Jews, where did they go?
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Caesar writes:

> Many on this ng think that Hitler did not kill Jews during WWII.
 
> If he didn't, how did 6 million Jews disappear during the course of the
> war?
 
> They must have been killed, because they disappeared without trace.

WHO said "six million" were missing?

This issue illustrates well the lack of validity of the "Hollowcaust" claims.

The number "six million" Jews (and sometimes, 4 to 6 million "others") has
been bandied around by the Jews and their well-behaved pooches like Ken Mcvay
for decades now.  Yet, NOT ONE shred of evidence is presented by these
Hoaxocaust boosters to authenticate the "six million" figure.  WHY? 
Perhaps because they can't, perhaps because they just INVENTED the number?

Since the Hoaxocaust is so "thoroughly documented," certainly it would be
fairly easy to show us the evidence of how the "six million" casualty
figure was established, using census records from before and after the war
of Jews in Eastern Europe.  Or was "six million" just a handy number, just
alot of gas extracted from thin-air?

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the White
racialist organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only
the Alliance has the potential to bring us to victory!"  -- Bob Mathews


From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Dec 30 12:08:20 PST 1995
Article: 12763 of alt.politics.white-power
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Subject: Re: White supremacy?
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Caesar writes:

> If the white race is "supreme" and all other races and "inferior",
> how come the Japanese have got a stronger economy, are better educated 
> and have a better standard of living than most white nations?

Because the Japanese, and specifically, the Japanese government, are
racists, who work for the good of Japan.  They seek to make money and work
for progress for the good of the Japanese Yamato "Race" (that's what they call
it).

Most "White" governments, on the other hand, at best work for power and
profit for themselves, or worse, work for Zionist aims of a world Zionist
state issuing commands to the _Goyim_, in accordance with Biblical myth.

In addition, regarding "better educated," one of the main reasons for
inferior education in the United States and Britain, as compared to, say
Sweden, Switzerland, or Germany, is the abundance of non-Whites in the
school systems, who drag down overall average tests scores both because they
themselves are incapable of attaining the White standards, as well as their
detrimental effect on the sense of community and cohesion in "integrated"
schools (for example, North Dakota or Minnesota schools, almost all White,
have very high tests scores, while largely Negro or Latino schools in
North Carolina or Texas have much lower scores).

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the White
racialist organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only
the Alliance has the potential to bring us to victory!"  -- Bob Mathews


From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Dec 30 21:19:50 PST 1995
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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: Re: More Treason from Kleim
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Sender: bb748@freenet.carleton.ca (Milton Kleim)
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Mr. Baron replies to me:

> > >  >>  As for your statement about the National Alliance "planning" to ex-
> > >  >>  terminate the Jews, I challenge you to cite ANY official document or
> > >  >>  work from the National Alliance National Office, the only agency that has> >  >>  the authority to make National Alliance policy, that advocates the
> > >  >>  extermination of the Jews as official National Alliance policy.
  
> > >  >>  Either cite such an example, or retract your allegation.
 
> I really do hate to say anything Yale agrees with but unlike him I am totally
> non-partisan. William Pierce once published an article in which he said that
> although the Holocaust hadn't happened (Exterminationist fashion), that no
> one should condemn the Germans if they had indeed exterminated the Jews, and that
> the world would have been better off with no survivors.

So what if he said that?  I agree.  Jewry has contributed very little, 
and exploited very much, from Western Civilization.  Certainly any 
innocent creature's death is sad (yes, even Jews), but there must be 
priorities on every issue.  

And, are you accusing anyone who doesn't have remorse for the "six million" 
as therefore "planning the extermination of the Jews"?

> >         1.  Rushdie did not hate Islam nor did his book advocate such hate.
> > "The Turner Diaries" (and I did read it) was written by a bigot and advocates
> > the murder of Blacks and Jews for no other reason than that they are Blacks
> > and Jews.
 
> The Turner Diaries is the sort of thing an ADL stooge would write since it
> conforms to the steroetype of how a certain type of Jew thinks all race-conscious
> whites should behave. 

_The Turner Diaries_ is one of the most eye-opening books for Aryans in 
the history of the world.  Anyone serious about securing our heritage 
MUST read it.  Certainly no one is saying we should emulate the 
activities of the characters in the work, but the messages contained in an 
"exciting" package allow the book to convey the messages much more 
clearly and effectively.  

>No one with half a brain would do anything but condemn such a book.

Oh, yes!  We must condemn any book in which the White guys win.

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the White
racialist organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only
the Alliance has the potential to bring us to victory!"  -- Bob Mathews


From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Dec 31 08:52:35 PST 1995
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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: Re: More Treason from Kleim
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Yid Edeikike still pukes:

>>  I challenge you to cite where I have "advocated treason" against the
>>  United States.  I challenge you to explain how a work of fiction can
>>  "advocate" anything.

> 	Having already done so, traitor, meeting your challenge becomes
> an exercise in futility.  Unless, of your, your short term memory is so
> inadequate that you forget the post in which you pompously announced
> your right to use force and violence to overthrow the government of the
> United States justifying your acts on the questionable thesis that you cannot
> commit treason against traitors.

NO WHERE have I EVER advocated "using force and violence to overthrow the
government of the United States."

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the White
racialist organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only
the Alliance has the potential to bring us to victory!"  -- Bob Mathews


From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Dec 31 08:52:36 PST 1995
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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: Re: More Treason from Kleim
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Yid Edeikike spews:

>>  A publisher is not responsible for people imitating what is written as
>>  fiction.  If that were the case, then Harcourt, Brace would be guilty as
>>  Hell for the government's imitation of _1984_.

> 	When, as with "The Turner Diaries," the publisher is the
> author and the intent, as with "The Turner Diaries," is to incite action
> the publisher is indeed responsible.

The publisher of _the Turner Diaries_ is National Vanguard Books, a
Virginia corporation.  Under the laws of the state of Virginia, it is a
separate entity from the author, William Pierce.

Can you PROVE, such as must be done in a court of law, INTENT to incite
action?

Or, are you just releasing alot of hot gas, libelling a man greater than
yourself?

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the White
racialist organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only
the Alliance has the potential to bring us to victory!"  -- Bob Mathews


From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Dec 31 09:18:19 PST 1995
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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: Re: What will white supremacists do with Jews if they ever capture power??
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Nero writes:

> What will white supremacists do to the Jewish people if they ever
> capture power?

We will follow the Commandments of YHVH and help the Jews return to Zion.  ;-)

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the White
racialist organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only
the Alliance has the potential to bring us to victory!"  -- Bob Mathews


From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Dec 31 10:08:59 PST 1995
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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: Re: White supremacy?
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Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 15:57:05 GMT
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"Caesar" replies to Les:

>> > If the white race is "supreme" and all other races and "inferior",
>> > how come the Japanese have got a stronger economy, are
>> > better educated  and have a better standard
>> > of living than most white nations?
 
>> Simple.  Because the Japanese are copying the technology of the Whites
>> (most technological innovations are White, despite what negrophiles and
>> sinophiles may tell you), and at the same time they practice a harsh,
>> exclusionary form of racism.  Japan is for Japanese, as far as they are
>> concerned.

> What about the sucess of multi-racial Singapore?

Singapore is about as "multi-racial" as apartheid-era South Africa or the
Confederacy: Ethnic Chinese overlords, non-Chinese workers.

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the White
racialist organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only
the Alliance has the potential to bring us to victory!"  -- Bob Mathews


From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Dec 31 10:09:00 PST 1995
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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: Re: Treason
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Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 16:02:17 GMT
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"Nero" writes:

>> ***************************
>> *          CLOC           *
>> *                         *   
>> *  KEEPING AMERIKA WHITE  *
>> ***************************

> "Amerika" wasn't white in the first place.

Sorry, friend, but RC is absolutely white, uh, right.  ;-)

There WAS NO America before Aryans arrived to CREATE America.  The "native
Americans" [sic] didn't even have the concept of "Nation-State," or
"continent" for that matter.  To them, their hunting grounds were the
entirety of the world.

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the White
racialist organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only
the Alliance has the potential to bring us to victory!"  -- Bob Mathews



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