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Richard G. Philllips wrote:

	Before you accuse the then-Pope (Pius XII) of failing to speak
	out against the exterminations, wouldn't it be a good idea to
	first establish the fact that these exterminations were in fact
	taking place.

	This seems to be a topic of hot controversy on this NG. Until it
	is an accepted fact you are hardly in a position to fault the
	Catholic church (or any institution) of complicity in it.

I responded:

	Mr. Phillips must be using a definition of the word "accepted" 
	that has not made it into any of the standard dictionaries of 
	the English language, yet.  The facts of the Holocaust have been
	accepted by the overwhelming majority of bona fide historians.


In his latest post, Mr. Phillips opines:

	By bona fide historians, I take it you mean academic historians 
	or mainstream historians - OK? Well, it is true that the usual 
	notions of the Holocaust are accepted by the overwhelming 
	majority of acamdemic historians and there is a very good reason
	for it.  If they did NOT accept it and could not keep their 
	beliefs to themselves, they would very soon cease to BE academic
	historians - as quite a few have found to their sorrow.

"Quite a few!"  So many, in fact, that Mr. Phillips cannot name 
a single one!  My personal observation is that racism and anti-Semitism
are tolerated and defended in tenured professors in the name of academic
freedom.

	Academs is not a cloistered institution apart from the real 
	world and dedicated to a Search for Truth.  It is a very  human
	institution where power politics and intimidation are far from
	unknown.

Mr. Phillips' cynicism is not proof of anything more than his bile.
He believes with this verbal sleight-of-hand he can make the need
for solid evidence vanish in a puff of smoke.  He has made a serious
charge, hoping that all of his bluster will divert attention from the
fact that he cannot present a single, solitary shred of evidence
to back up his slander.

My last post concluded:

	They [the facts] have not been accepted by a tiny minority of 
	crackpots, which includes Mr. Phillips as one of their shining 
	lights.

Which leads Mr. Phillips to this brilliant observation:

	I have remarked before that Jews customarily resort to talk of 
	that sort whenever people say things that make them 
	uncomfortable.

That is very true indeed.  When people like Mr. Phillips post slanderous
lies, it does indeed make me "uncomfortable" and I do "resort to talk of
that sort," that is the sort that exposes the lies to the light of 
truth.

	They make a big parade of being "logical" and "rational." The 
	truth is that they are nothing of the kind.

The question is not whether or not Jews are logical, but whether or not
Mr. Phillips is logical.  By the way he rapidly changed the subject
one might think he had misgivings.

--
Harry Katz


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Lenny wrote:

	Also, one can read "The Talmud Unmasked" by Fr. I. B. Pranaitis
	for more quotes dealing with christians.

I responded:

	Yes, I recognized these slanders as coming from this screed.  
	For those who do not know, there is no such person as 
	I. B. Pranaitis.  It is a pseudonym for a known Jew hater, whose
	name escapes me at the moment.  It is chock full of lies and 
	distortions.

	Those who are truly interested ought to go to the source and 
	check out a translation of the Talmud from the library.  You 
	will find that the Talmud is a work of many volumes of dense and
	obscure discussion and filled with the loftiest precepts.  
	Certainly there are absurdities in it, as must be expected from
	a work so old, but they are few and far between, and do not 
	encompass, as Mr. Lenny believes, anywhere near the entirety of
	the work.

Which brings this response in his latest post:

	I don't need to elaborate on the talmud passages,...

Mr. Lenny is too immodest!  He cannot elaborate on these passages
because he has already exhausted his entire knowledge of the subject
with his short one-liners from "Pranaitis."

	...Mr. Katz doesn't deny the prescence of the passages , just 
	the interpritation.The jews would not give an accurate 
	interpritation of these passages to us goy, so I suspect 
	Mr. Katz's explanations.

Which is why I suggested going to a good library and checking out the
actual Talmud.  Skepticism is a very healthy trait, but it cuts both
ways.  Mr. Lenny must counterbalance his suspicions of me with
suspicions of "Pranaitis," but he seems to believe implicitly in
this hoax.

	As far as Fr. Pranaitis is concerned, he is a real person. He 
	was a Russian priest...  Father Pranaitis was one of those 
	killed by the Cheka during the Bolshevist revolution in Russia.

That is straight out of the "Pranaitis" pamphlet, but not a word of it
is true.  The book was actually written by an American Jew hater.

And as for the reference to Talmudic "quotes dealing with christians,"
there are none whatsoever.  The Talmud does deprecate heretics, among
whom are Jewish Gnostics and early Jewish followers of Jesus, but not
Gentile followers of Jesus.  "Pranaitis" interprets every disparaging
remark directed at Jewish heretics, as an insult to Christians,
regardless of context.  The irony is that the early Gentile followers
of Jesus ended up driving their Jewish brethren out of their church,
yet Talmudic deprecations against these same apostates are quoted
as slanders against "Christians."

And here are some quotes from the Talmud that "Pranaitis" missed:

	Wrong neither thy brother in faith nor him who differs from
	thee in faith.

	Love labor and hate to be a professional minister.

	God alone can judge.

	Judge everybody favorably.

	Judge charitably every man and justify him all you can.

	He that cherishes jealousy in his heart, his bones rot.

	A miser is as wicked as an idolator.

	To deserve mercy, practice mercy.

And especially these quotes that sound awfully familiar:

	Whatever is hateful to thee, do not to thy neighbor.

	Man sees the mote in his neighbor's eye, but knows not of
	the beam in his own.

All quotes from "Wit and Wisdom of the Talmud," edited by Madison C. 
Peters (New York, Bloch Publishing Company, 1940).

--
Harry Katz

"Four shall not enter Paradise: the scoffer, the liar, the hypocrite,
and the slanderer."
			-- Wit and Wisdom of the Talmud,
			edited by Madison C. Peters 
			(New York, Bloch Publishing Company, 1940).


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I wrote:
 
	It seems that even the superior, so-called "Aryan" race cannot 
	bring all of its adherents into line behind a single 
	organization or plan.  Yet, they continue to insist that Jews 
	can and do exercise precisely that kind of unity of purpose and 
	action.  They cannot seem to learn from their own experience 
	that it is impossible to foster that level of unity in so large 
	a group of individuals.

Which brings this from Ian McKinney in his latest post:

	Mr. Katz neglects to mention the important fact that the Jews,
	existing as a barely tolerated minority within somebody else's 
	nation, have by necessity refined their organizational
	techniques.

And I thought my parents had an Eastern European ghetto mentality.
Wake up!  This is America.  Jews are not "a  barely tolerated minority
within somebody else's nation," but a vital part of the fabric of
this nation, and have been since its inception.  Yet, Mr. McKinney
insists on holding on to his paranoid delusions as if his very life
depended upon it.  Anyone who reads the Jewish press can readily
see for themselves from all the dirty laundry that always manages to get
aired in public, that there are no "refined Jewish organizational 
techniques" keeping the many sects and factions of the Jewish community 
in line.

By the way, where is Mr. Baron to comfort Mr. McKinney with the wise
observation that he has more chance of being murdered by his wife
than by an organized Jew?

--
Harry Katz


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After over three centuries of slavery in America, all that Chris 
Carpenter could find was two measly paragraphs on Jewish involvement.
What an impact!  I feel so ashamed.

--
Harry Katz


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I responded too soon!  Chris Carpenter found about a dozen measly
paragraphs about Jewish involvement in slavery.

Apparently, even he realizes how small this drop in the bucket really
is, so he pads it out by breaking it into eleven posts.

--
Harry Katz


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Alexander Baron writes:

	I have absolutely no argument with the Jewish faith; I do have a
	beef with Kosher fascists who think that calling themselves Jews 
	gives them a God-given right to ride roughshod over the rest of 
	mankind, including me.

On the one hand Mr. Baron poo-poos hate crimes and chides Jews for
paying them any attention.  But on the other hand he blows up every
seeming slight he has ever received from anyone he suspects to be
Jewish out of all proportion, until we are "riding roughshod over the 
rest of mankind!"

Mr. Baron can dish it out, but he cannot take it.

--
Harry Katz


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Kevin Alfred Strom wrote :

	"Pound was duly indicted for treason, but the chief complaint 
	against him seems to have been that he refused to take part in 
	the slaughter.  While so many millions were dipping their hands 
	in blood, he asked only for peace.

dckom retorted:

	This is simply bullshit. Hundreds of Americans protested U.S. 
	entry into world war 2. Most went to prison willingly. Pound 		went to
a fascist country.

He did much more than that.  Pound was fascist Italy's version of
"Tokyo Rose," broadcasting fascist propaganda at American troops.
So much for "refusing to take part in the slaughter!"

It is also noteworthy that Pound may have been losing his grip during
these years because his broadcasts were at times so incoherent that
Mussolini had him investigated to see if he was really a spy
broadcasting to the Allies in code.

--
Harry Katz


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Anonymous wrote:

	I see posts everywhere suggesting that Catholics should
	apologize and repent for the part played by some Catholics in
	the Holocaust.  Jewish groups expressed dissapointment that the
	recent statement by the Pope failed to admit guilt on the part
	of the Catholic Church for war crimes, real or imagined,
	committed by the Nazis, some of whom may have been Catholics,
	during WWII.  Does not the same principle apply to such
	accusations?

I responded:

	Mr. Anonymous is confusing apples and oranges.  The crimes 
	mentioned are very real, and not at all imagined, but they are 
	not the crimes of individual Catholics.  The crime is that of 
	the Catholic Church hierarchy, including the pope, in failing to
	protest Nazi crimes.  The pope of the time allowed the Nazis to 
	round up Italian Jews for deportation without the slightest 
	peep.  A glaring contrast to its modern practice of speaking out
	against injustice.

Mr. Anonymous responds:

	The principle stated in the original post, as I understood it, 
	was that one should not blame members of a group for wrongs 
	committed by others in the group.  Your response suggests that 
	you feel criticism of the present Catholic heirarchy is 
	justified because in your opinion the leaders of fifty years 
	ago did not do enough to stop the Nazis.

Mr. Anonymous is still confused.  Yes, I do feel that criticism of the
leadership of the Catholic Church is entirely justified, because they
do not represent the individual Catholics so much as they represent the
church as an institution.  As an institution, until the hierarchy
acknowledges policies that were set for it by previous administrations
and repudiates them, the Catholic Church can be said to stand by the
decisions and actions of previous hierarchs.

	Moreover, you appear to think the Church should opologize for 
	all present day  catholics.

No, that is not true.  The Catholic Church need only apologize for
its own institutional mistakes, not for its individual members.  The
only obligation the Church has to its members is to instruct them
not to behave in the future as they were erroneously instructed to
behave in the past.

	Whether its colored orange or apple-red, bigotry is bigotry.

Mr. Anonymous ought not to mistake his own confusion for bigotry
in others.

--
Harry Katz


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Doc Tavish wrote that Judaism condones homosexuality and "proved" it
by reprinting a single opinion from a single rabbi.

I wrote:

	Mr. Tavish fails to identify the rabbi as Reform, Conservative,
	Orthodox, or Hassidic, either because he is too ignorant to 
	know that there is more than one sect of Judaism, or because it 
	would ruin his argument that this one letter and response 
	constitutes the views of Judaism as a whole, and not just the 
	opinion of a single rabbi or a single branch of Judaism.

Which brings out this gem from Mr. Debunks:

	Forget the rabbi, Harry.  The condemnation of Homosexuals is to 
	be found in the Torah.

Indeed!  But the wholesale condemnation of Jews and Judaism is not
in the Torah.  It happens that Orthodox Jews and Hassidim also
condemn homosexuality in no uncertain terms, and they also condemn
rabbis who accept homosexuality.  It also happens that they can find
Biblical justification for the condemnation of anti-Semites and
Jew haters.

But my point, which Mr. Debunks failed to address, is that one rabbi's
opinion is not representative of the whole of Judaism.

Mr. Doc Tavish applauds Mr. Debunks "wit":

	Here, here, Bravo! What I posted was not gibberish to those with
	a heart and a mind. 

I never contended it was gibberish.  I think it is malicious slander.

	Jews are the blind that lead the blind. 

The mandatory gratuitous insult.

	They can't even adhere to their own Torah.

Once again, Mr. Tavish lumps all Jews together.  Plenty of Jews have no
problem whatsoever adhering to the Torah.  The Talmud advises Jews to
turn to the Torah again and again because all things are contained
within it.

	They're always being in denial even with confronted with 
	enormous proofs is what makes them so odious and despicable.

Here we have the "Tavish method" in a nutshell!  First he posts
his slanders and half-truths.  Next, his post is exposed by one or
more people, point by point.  Then he responds with a lot of
gratuitous slander, culminating in the claim that his proof is
"enormous!"  Obviously, he hopes that all of this blustering and
posturing will divert attention from the fact that he cannot refute
a single, solitary objection to any point in any of his posts.
Finally, he announces that he will repost his original trash, as if
by merely reposting it he has fielded all of the objections to all of
the errors and outright lies in his original post.

And here it comes...

	I must re-attach my original document below not to preserve
	the thread but for the benefit of the future DejaNews lurker. 

And I must delete it for the sake of bandwidth and the hard disk at
DejaNews, which already has several complete copies of this tiesome
tirade courtesy of the insatiable Mr. Tavish.

	I want them to see the Jews dodging the issue...

Mr. Tavish is projecting!

	...and the fine reply you made! 

Mr. Tavish likes the way Mr. Debunks tried to change the subject once
I got hold of it.

	I am proud this day!

And now it is time for Mr. Tavish to use this post of mine as another
excuse to malign Jews and Judaism and repost his lengthy diatribe
yet again.

--
Harry Katz


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Doc Tavish wrote:

	JEWISH ANTIFASCIST COMMITTEE IN THE USSR

	The working staff of the Committee consists of:

	1.Secretary of the Committee, whose duties (following the death 
	of Comrade Shakhno Epshtein) are carried out by the writer 
	I. Fefer, member of the All-Union Communist Party (Bolsheviks) 
	[VKP(b)] since 1919...

Itzik Fefer was arrested and executed by the Stalin regime in 1949,
along with all Soviet Jewish intellectuals.  If you can read between
the lines, the "Jewish Antifascist Committee" was a front that 
Jewish intellectuals had to put up to placate Stalin.  When Stalin
got wise, or paranoid, he had them all arrested and murdered.

Mr. Tavish has it backwards if he thinks any kind of Jewish committee
dictated policy to Stalin.  It was Stalin who dictated to Jews that
they must form committees with impressive names to support whatever
policy his whims dictated.

Now it is time for Mr. Tavish to claim that I am in denial and repost
his original drivel.  What he will not do is refute any of my facts
or analyses.

--
Harry Katz


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Richard G. Philllips writes:

	I admit that this is just conjecture; I really don't know.

The common thread in all of Mr. Phillips' posts!

--
Harry Katz


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Richard G. Phillips writes:

	Good work. You have present possible evidence that the intent 
	was there.

"Possible evidence..."  Mr. Phillips seems to be afraid of committing
himself, even though he cannot seem to come up with any reason to
doubt it.

	Now all you have to do is to prove that it was 
	carried out.

"I admit that this is just conjecture; I really don't know."
	-- Richard G. Phillips

--
Harry Katz


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Yale F. Edeiken writes:

	The Jewish authorities of the day were not Pharisees but the 
	Temple party- the Saducees.  The Pharisees were, as far as
	power was concerned, on the outside looking in.  Moreover Acts
	5:34-39, suggests that it was the Pharisees who protected the 
	early followers of Jesus from attacks by the Temple party 
	(5:17-18).

It should further be noted that the redactors of the Talmud were
not Pharisees.  The Talmud makes reference to Pharisees as a separate
sect, always referring to Talmudists as either tannaim or amoraim.

This is confirmed by internal evidence from the Talmud, as every
passage in the Talmud that speaks of Jesus' life on Earth invariably
misplaces him in time by roughly a century.  For example, Rabbi Akiba
is described as encountering Mary, the mother of Jesus, yet Akiba
lived roughly a century later.  Now, considering all of the hostile
encounters between Jesus and the Parisees, it does not stand to
reason that these same Pharisees would then be so incapable of placing
him in time.

--
Harry Katz


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Doc Tavish wrote:

	"Course Description

	"HISTORY 3Z03 JUDAISM, THE JEWISH PEOPLE AND THE BIRTH OF THE 
	MODERN WORLD

	"On the lures and threats of the modern world from the early
	eighteenth to the early twentieth century. Topics include: 
	Jewish philosophy in the Age of Reason, new Jewish 
	denominations, assimilation, early Zionism, 
	Yiddish socialism,......."
	^^^^^^^^^^^^^

	Need I say more?

Mr. Tavish always needs to "say more" as his favorite tactic is to use
selective quotation.  "Yiddish Socialism" surely existed, but its impact
on socialism in general, and Soviet Communism in particular, was nil.
Mr. Tavish apparently hopes to create the impression that socialism is
inherently "Yiddish," but a class could just as easily be formed around
"British Socialism" or "German Socialism" with the only difference
being that people will not equate the British people with socialism
just because some Brits did support socialism.

	How is posting exactly what the Jews say anti-semitic? Is this
	anti-semitic too?

Mr. Tavish puts on his innocent act.  Whenever Jews write anything that
is balanced, Mr. tavish can be depended upon to post all the negatives
of the article while ignoring all the positives.

--
Harry Katz


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Doc Tavish wrote:

	"Where Judaism and Liberalism Part

	"by Rabbi Nachum Braverman
	Aish HaTorah Los Angeles

	"Though many Jews are liberal this no more makes liberalism the 
	Jewish agenda than the prominence of Jews among Bolsheviks made 
	Bolshevism the Jewish agenda."

	This Rabbi is really a hoot. Look how he dodges the "prominence"
	of Jews among the Bolsheviks.

Perhaps if Mr. Tavish could read with comprehension he would not have
fallen prey to anti-Semitic propaganda.  Rabbi Braverman "dodges"
nothing.  Those Jews who were "prominent" members of the Bolsheviks
are not his concern.  His concern is that the vast majority of Jews
who rejected the Bolsheviks are lumped in together with the few who
joined the Bolsheviks, as Mr. Tavish attempts to do in this very post
by confusing and twisting the rabbi's words.

	Hilarious- simply hilarious.

There is nothing quite so pathetic as a fool who laughs at the truth
because he cannot understand it.

	Deny, deny, deny!

Lie, lie, lie!

--
Harry Katz


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Doc Tavish wrote:

	Notice also that some Jews have admitted they were the 
	Bolsheviks.

I suppose some Jews admitted that Jews were _among_ the Bolsheviks, but
if anyone admitted that Jews "were the Bolsheviks" he is mistaken.
Notice that Mr. Tavish provides no citation for this claim, although
he usually claims to be scrupulous about citing sources (even if he
does not cite them completely).  At any rate, all but a handful of
Jews were purged from the party by Stalin.

--
Harry Katz


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When I read the last post from Stephen D. Martin I thought he himself
believed in the Blood Libel.  It is apparent from this response that
that is not the case at all.  

	Harry, the blood libel is such an incredibly overused claim 
	that, as with the overuse of fascist and Nazi as
	epithets, ludicrous might be a better word to describe it.

It certainly warms the cockles of my heart when impartial observers
find the Blood Libel to be ludicrous.  I personally do try to limit
my use of words like fascist and nazi to true fascists and
self-proclaimed nazis because I do not want to muddy the waters.

I wrote last time:

	...only a Jew hater would persist in believing even though
	there has never been any corroborating evidence discovered after
	many centuries have passed.

Mr. Martin replies:

	Absolutely incorrect. One does not have to be a Jew hater to be
	mentally unsound or of diminished capacity to persist in a 
	belief regardless of corroborating evidence, do they?  As you 
	yourself state:

And he quotes my last post:

	Anyone who could believe in the "blood libel" has got to be 
	either simple-minded or a Jew hater, and most likely both.  

Mr. Martin, if I interpret him correctly, believes that one can believe
in the Blood Libel if "mentally unsound or of diminished capacity"
and not be a Jew hater.  That is true, so far as it goes, but how
could anyone believe in the Blood Libel and not be persuaded to dislike
the perpetrators sooner or later?   That is why I say that believers
are "most likely both."

Mr. Martin accused me of "grade school style name calling."  In my last
post I wrote:

	It is hardly "grade school style name calling" to label the 
	author of the statements that I was commenting on originally a 
	"Jew hater."
	... It is a simple observation of fact.

To which, Mr. Martin responds:

	Precisely, Harry, the operative word is "simple".  As far as I 
	can tell "Jew hater" displays no greater stretch of the 
	imagination that the standard racialist epithets of kike, fag, 
	gay lover, race traitor, etc.

I do not direct my posts to sophisticated readers who are already aware
of how ludicrous the Blood Libel really is, nor am I trying to display
any great creativity.  I am trying to reach those same simple people 
who are not Jew haters, but who might be seduced by the very seeming
"resonableness" of the argument, as Mr. Martin himself points out.

Nor do I agree that all of the epithets in his list above are 
equivalent.  Those of us who are labeled "kike, fag, etc." cannot choose
to be otherwise, whereas those who are labeled "gay lover, race traitor,
etc." -- and Jew hater -- are labeled according to their perceived
actions and sentiments.  I grant that sometimes people are mislabeled
because their perceived sentiments are not their true sentiments, and
often the epithets are derogatory, but in the case of the original
poster, who promoted the Blood Libel in this newsgroup, the epithet
"Jew hater" fits, and I believe that I demonstrated that before
applying the term.

--
Harry Katz


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"Richard G. Philllips"  wrote:

	As I have said several times before, because the Holocaust is 
	being used for purposes of political manipulation that are 
	against the interest of ordinary American people,...

A charge that Mr. Phillips cannot back up with a single solitary shred
of evidence!  But that will not prevent him from clearly enunciating
his double-standard:

	...IT WILL HAVE TO BE HELD TO AT LEAST THE SAME STANDARDS OF 
	PROOF AS ARE REQRUIED IN A CRIMINAL TRIAL

Who died and left Mr. Phillips in charge of the Federal Bureau of
Standards of Proof?  Typing this unreasonable demand entirely in
upper case is very persuasive.  If it had been all lower case it
would not have made any sense at all, but upper case lends it just
the right amount of dignity and authority.

There is no standard of proof that Mr. Phillips
will accept because he cherishes his delusions and prejudices above
the truth, so there is no use trying.  We will have to be content
with the sure knowledge that reasonable people, who accept reasonable
standards of proof, have no trouble believing that the Holcaust
occured as written in history books.

--
Harry Katz


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Doc Tavish keeps posting the same tripe over and over in every
thread in this newsgroup:

	MIT's Marxist Education on Campus! See Also the Profile of a 
	Marxist Apologist!

It is an extremely long and tiresome diatribe that he posts without
commenting on the actual thread he posts it in.

Having nothing to say himself, he wants to disrupt everyone else, as
if seeking attention is more important to him than getting at the truth.

--
Harry Katz


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NSWPP stands for "National Socialist White People's Party!"
Note the word, "Socialist!"  To borrow Doc Tavish's logic and words,
need I say more?

--
Harry Katz


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NSWPP wrote:

	THE NATIONAL ALLIANCE IS A FRAUD

Once again, White Power racists demonstrate that they cannot achieve
unity despite their common genes and even their common philosophy!
Yet, they persist in their unreasonable belief that Jews, who do not
share a common philosophy, whose religion is splintered among nearly
as many sects and denominations as Christians enjoy, are so monolithic
that despite well documented public arguments we can maintain a vast,
elaborate, and complex conspiracy alive and totally secret for
centuries, if not millenia!

--
Harry Katz


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Doc Tavish wrote:

	Here is my insight on why you will not find any predominant...

Mr. Tavish obviously means "prominent" -- not "predominant!"  This is
no mere typo, but sloppy language skills, which ultimately explains
Mr. Tavish's sloppy "logic!"

	...Jewish Pro-Life organizations.

Whereas right-to-lifers believe that the soul enters a fetus immediately
upon conception, Jewish believers believe that the soul enters a person
at the moment of birth.

But, never let it be said that Mr. Tavish ever took the trouble to
research the real cause of anything that he could blame on Jews
without having to do any intellectual work at all!

--
Harry Katz



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