Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.history Subject: Holocaust Almanac: David Irving - Liar, Fraud, or both? (1) Reply-To: email@example.com Followup-To: alt.revisionism Organization: The Old Frog's Almanac, Vancouver Island, CANADA Keywords: Irving Archive/File: holocaust/england/irving irving.1 Last-Modified: 1993/11/01 Those who cite David Irving to strengthen their Holocaust denial have yet to comment on various quotes from his book, some of which are reproduced below, and in subsequent articles. The problem, of course, is that Mr. Irving is either a liar (he now denies the Holocaust, but, as you will see, researched it in depth and documented its horrors in his book) or a fraud. He either lied when he wrote the following words, or he is lying now - take your pick.... "....But the SS authorities, Gauleiters, and regional commissars and governors in "the east" proved wholly unequal to the problems caused by this mass uprooting in midwar. The Jews were brought by trainloads to ghettos already overcrowded and underprovisioned. Partly in collusion with each other, partly independently, the Nazi agencies there simply liquidated the deportees as their trains arrived, on a scale increasingly more methodical and more regimented as the months passed. A subsidiary motive in the atrocity was the animal desire of the murderers to loot and plunder the Jewish victims and conceal their traces. (This hypothesis does not include the methodical liquidation of Russian Jews during the "Barbarosa" invasion of 1941..)" (Irving, xiv) Many historians have commented on Irving's strange insistance that Hitler was not responsible for the extermination of European Jewry, and that, at least until 1943, did not know of their fate. Michael Marrus discusses Irving briefly [Holocaust in History, Toronto, 1987]... "In a book published in 1977, British writer David Irving even suggested that the Fuehrer had nothing to do with the matter. Building his case on the inability of historians to discover written orders from Hitler to kill all the Jews of Europe, Irving contended that the Fuehrer was not responsible for anti-Jewish policy at all, was basically uninterested in Jews, and knew nothing about their terrible fate -- at least until 1943.<7> As a chorus of reviewers immediately pointed out, however, this contention not only ignored Hitler's hate-filled rhetoric about Jews, it also disregarded reports on the killings destined for him, plus the repeated statements of his underlings, including Himmler, that policy was determined at the highest level, by the Fuehrer himself.<8>" (Marrus) <7> Irving, David. Hitler's War. New York: 1977, xiv, 330-32, 392-93, 503-5, 575-76, 601-2, 851, and passim. <8> See Charles Sydnor, Jr. "The Selling of Adolf Hitler: David Irving's `Hitler's War'" in "Central European History 12 (1979), 169-99; Alan Bullock, "The Schicklgruber Story" in New York Review of Books, 26 May 1977, 10-15. Followups to alt.revisionism Work Cited Irving, David. Hitler's War. (1977) Marrus, Michael R. The Holocaust in History. Toronto: Lester & Orpen Dennys Limited, 1987
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