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Yet another Montreal Synagogue Convicted for massive TAX FRAUD- Will CRA Now
Charge & Convict McVay & BB For Similar TAX FRAUD?

Canadian Jew News have a banner headline story covering half a page, on page
35 of the issue for April 10 2008.

When even jew news media must give a half page with banner headline to the
story, that will indicate how serious the story is.

Even honest jews do not like to have their crooked brethren bringing further
disrepute upon them.

What will the executives presently mismanaging B'Nai Brith do now, in
connection with their ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING FOR KEN McVay?

Canada Revenue Agency [CRA] convicted the Montreal synagogue Congregation
Adath Israel Poale Zedek Anshei Ozeroff, and they were also fined almost HALF
A MILLION DOLLARS FOR TAX FRAUD!!

According to documents made public by CRA, the synagogue had issued fraudulent
charitable donation receipts worth almost $400,000 in the fiscal year ending
in 2005.

In addition to the huge fine, the synagogue has now also lost status as a
registered charity, and can no longer issue charitable donation receipts.

This synagogue had been previously audited in 2002, and had been warned at
that time.
This synagogue had been giving false charitable donation receipts for
fraudulent items such as membership fees, cemetery plots and the services of
the nursery school.

Now that CRA have finally got some balls in prosecuting for TAX FRAUD, it will
be only a matter of days before B'nai Brith will also get convicted, in
connection with their MONEY LAUNDERING FOR KEN MCVAY, 
THEIR ISSUING OF FRAUDULENT CHARITABLE DONATION RECEIPTS 
for payments to Ken McVays BUSINESS!!

Ken McVay and his huge  tax swindle, CRIMINAL MONEY LAUNDERING 
TAX FRAUD  involving the collusion of senior management at B'nai Brith, 
is now being exposed by Canadian Jew News, week after week, and is 
now a major cause of  B'Nai Brith Canada  Breaking Up!!

No wonder CRA & IRS are also very interested!

McVay can not call all the news stories false, since they are carried 
in the leading jew newspaper in Canada, Canadian Jew News, week 
after week with more and more prominent jews in BB demanding details !

Rumor is that CJN is now investigating further, with CRA, IRS,
BB executives, as well as RCMP and FBI regarding McVay's
CRIMINAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH COLLUSION OF BB 
AND ALSO MAZAL'S SAAF!!

It seems that large group of past presidents, and BB lodge presidents,
are even considering breaking away from the present BB and setting 
up a new jew charity group.

Apparently the present gang running BB have refused to provide 
audited  financial statements before the AGM, as required. Members 
are concerned about  what is happening to all the funds collected.

For example, isn't the money being LAUNDERED for the BUSINESS 
RUN BY Shabbas-Goy Ken McVay ILLEGAL?

Henry Gimpel a former regional BB Chair, said that a core
group of 15-20 former BB executives,are extremely concerned.

Gimpel has stated that"problems really started when we stopped 
getting financial statements in advance of the AGMs"

"Everything was manipulated."

We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith.
How is that money used?
Where does it go?
We don't know."


No wonder Ken McVay does not want this publicised!

Now, in the issue of Canadian Jew News for January 17 2008, 
there is a 2 page banner headline story about the ongoing 
problems at B'nai Brith Canada caused by this scandal.

On pages 6 and 17 of this issue, is a huge article about the existing 
managers of BB wanting to remove as members the dissident past 
presidents and long time members, who have been questioning the 
mismanagement and financial irregularities.

Many of the past executives now want the whole mess to go to Court,
so that the public will get proof of the irregularities, such as 
ILLEGAL CHARITABLE DONATION RECEIPTS FOR PAYMENTS 
TO McVAY'S BUSINESS!!

McVay TAX FRAUD Causing  B'Nai Brith Canada to Break Up!!
Also, it is stimulating Canadian & USA Tax FRAUD Investigations!
Full text of article follows at bottom of comments.
The article is from the JEW newspaper, so it must be true!

On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:15:02 -0800, in can.politics Greg Carr
 wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:35:11 -0700, SteveHorn 
wrote:

Canadian Jew News had  a huge banner headline story, over 2 pages,
[pages 12 & 28] in the issue of December 6 2007 regarding a major 
scandal involving the current BB Canada  managers.

Since this is a ZYD newspaper, it can not be called anti-semitic.
Published for jews, it MUST be TRUE,even if it does expose crooks!!


Since Ken McVay has been outed as being involved in
ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for
fraudulent tax charity receipts from Bb, no wonder
executives of BB are very concerned.

JEWS ONCE AGAIN ABUSING THEIR TAX EXEMPT STATUS TO FUND 
A NON-EXEMPT NIZKOR.ORG IN ELABORATE MONEY LAUNDERING 
AND KICKBACK SCAM? IRS & CRA WHERE ARE YOU?


JEWS ARE INDICTED FOR TAX FRAUD IN AMERICA:
http://www.pgdc.com/usa/item/?itemID=932870
  Thursday, January 10, 2008 Posted: 1:42 AM EST
Religious Leader and Others Indicted on Charitable Contribution Scheme; Other
Tax Fraud

A federal grand jury has handed down a 37-count indictment against the head of
a religious organization and related parties for conspiracy to defraud the
United States and agencies thereof. The numerous allegations include a
fraudulent charitable contribution and kickback scheme that resulted in
claimed deductions of up to 20 times the amount actually contributed,
international money laundering, mail and wire fraud, and filing false income
tax returns.


BROOKLYN RABBI AND SEVERAL ASSOCIATES CHARGED IN 
SOPHISTICATED  TAX FRAUD AND MONEY LAUNDERING SCHEME
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
THE ABOVE CON-GAME MIRRORS WHAT B'NAI BRITH DOES WITH 
NIZKOR.ORG RUN BY CONFIDENCE MAN KENNETH NEAL MCVAY.

Canadian Jewish News
Battle brewing at B'nai Brith Canada
By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter
Thursday, 06 December 2007

TORONTO - A nasty battle is brewing at B'nai Brith Canada (BBC) over
allegations the organization's head office has centralized too much
power and is unaccountable to members - despite a decision of B'nai
Brith International's (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have
addressed the issue.

At least three former senior officials of B'nai Brith Canada are
raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at
BBC's head office in Toronto. ...

Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to
20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge
presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has
been taking.

A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel
said that "problems really started when we stopped getting financial
statements" in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when
slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation.
"Everything was manipulated," he said.

"We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith. How is
that money used? Where does it go? We don't know."


[Since Ken McVay [The Nizkor Project] has been outed as being involved
in ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for fraudulent tax
charity receipts from BB, no wonder executives of BB are very concerned.
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
"NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam"
Message-ID: 
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
"Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?"
Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com> ]

http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86

http://tinyurl.com/3ceybq

http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:XWq_EgV_AFYJ:www.cjnews.com/
index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D13693%26
Itemid%3D86+%22Battle+brewing+at+B%27nai+Brith+Canada%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl
=us&lr=lang_en


Kenneth McVay's American money laundering operation exposed;
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/7e8cbfce5f14ee8c?fwc=1
"The reason Canadian Kenneth McVay is distancing himself from the San Antonio
Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund? (It's illegal for one thing!)"
Message-ID: <1o9ch2pv1bc148161ihkt26ngjteacj4p8@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e0028c076ac46510?fwc=1
"Kenneth N McVay is a Goy Mamzer Totally Owned by Jewry"
Message-ID: 97ba28fa14b592c4ca0079950858babe@remailer.metacolo.com


B'NAI BRITH, SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION AND NIZKOR.ORG SHOULD ALL 
BE SHUT DOWN AND THE PERPETRATORS IN EACH INSTITUTION MUST BE 
PROSECUTED TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW. THEIR TAX EVASIONS SCHEMES
ARE CRIMES AGAINST THE WORKING PEOPLE; CRIMES WHICH SHOULD NOT 
GO UNPUNISHED.


JEWS ONCE AGAIN ABUSING THEIR TAX EXEMPT STATUS TO FUND A NON-EXEMPT
NIZKOR.ORG IN ELABORATE MONEY LAUNDERING AND KICKBACK SCAM? 
IRS & CRA WHERE ARE YOU?



For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case -
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com,
or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com,
or KenMcVay@vex.net
Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex,
homosexuals and the like.

>Canadian Jew News had  a huge banner headline story, over 2 pages,
>[pages 12 & 28] in the issue of December 6 2007 regarding a major 
>scandal involving the current BB Canada  managers.

>Since this is a ZYD newspaper, it can not be called anti-semitic.
>Published for jews, it MUST be TRUE!!

So stupid why didn't you show the url?
The entire original article is below, cretin.

>No wonder honest jews are incenced!

>It seems that large group of past presidents, and BB lodge presidents,
>are even considering breaking away from the present BB and setting 
>up a new jew charity group.

>Apparently the present gang running BB have refused to provide 
>audited  financial statements before the AGM, as required. members 
>are concerned about  what is happening to all the funds collected.

>For example, is the money being LAUNDERED for the BUSINESS 
>RUN BY Shabbas-Goy Ken McVay LEGAL?

Ken McVay uber alles.

>Henry Gimpel a former regional BB Chair, said that a core
>group of 15-20 former BB executives,are extremely concerned.

Battle brewing at B’nai Brith Canada  
By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter     
Thursday, 06 December 2007  
TORONTO — A nasty battle is brewing at B’nai Brith Canada (BBC) over
allegations the organization’s head office has centralized too much
power and is unaccountable to members – despite a decision of B’nai
Brith International’s (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have
addressed the issue.

At least three former senior officials of B’nai Brith Canada are
raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at
BBC’s head office in Toronto. Dissatisfaction is so great there has
been talk of breaking away to form a new service organization, one of
the ex-officials said.

At the same time, a group calling themselves “concerned members of
B’nai Brith Canada” have launched a newsletter purporting to offer
“BBC news without the spin.” Its May 10, 2007, inaugural issue states
the group’s goal is to “end the current dysfunctional corporate
governance at BBC and restore it to its once prominent position as a
respected and admired organization both inside and outside the Jewish
community.” The group claims to represent lodge past presidents, BBC
past presidents, members of BBC’s board of governors and national
administrative board.

The group’s concerns were first reported in the New York-based paper
the Forward.

BBC’s head office, meanwhile, rejects outright any suggestion there is
anything amiss in the organization’s corporate governance. Frank
Dimant, BBC’s executive vice-president, said all institutional changes
have been passed lawfully and complaints regarding the organization’s
corporate structure have been definitively rejected by B’nai Brith
International’s (BBI) highest appeal court. BBI is BBC’s parent
organization.

In interviews with The CJN, two former national presidents and a past
chair of the Toronto regional co-ordinating committee said too much
power is concentrated at the organization’s head office in Toronto and
the service group’s 4,000 members are being shut out of
decision-making. They called for greater corporate accountability and
transparency, particularly strict adherence to the organization’s
constitution, which requires the presentation of audited financial
statements prior to the annual general meeting  (AGM).

Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to
20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge
presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has
been taking.

A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel
said that “problems really started when we stopped getting financial
statements” in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when
slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation.

“Everything was manipulated,” he said.

“We want accountability. We are raising funds for B’nai Brith. How is
that money used? Where does it go? We don’t know.”

Gimpel suggested B’nai Brith might face a serious revolt of the lodges
if the organization is not more responsive – perhaps even a
“breakaway” by some. “They’re getting more and more fed up. There’s
been talk about it,” he said.

Morley Wolfe and Harvey Crestohl – both BBC past presidents – said
they want to see B’nai Brith revert to a more democratic,
representative and transparent organization.

Most BBC members don’t know or don’t care about the goings-on at
headquarters, Wolfe said. They are content to participate in lodge
activities and don’t realize the organization has changed, he added.

He discounted suggestions that lodges might break away. BBC “still
does good work,” he said.

What he is after is reform.

“I’m not trying to destroy the organization,” he said. “I’m trying to
get some accountability and transparency.”

Crestohl, who served as BBC president in the late 1970s and who has
been a lodge member for 51 years, said he and the other past
presidents would like to see more BBC members get involved in
organizational governance.

“We need a grassroots movement. We also need some leaders in the
community who give support to B’nai Brith to realize what’s going on
and exert their influence on those running things to revert to being a
democratically run organization,” he said.

Dimant stated that BBI’s appeals court considered all the criticisms
and on July 20, 2007, ruled that “all the accusations have been
debunked.”

“This kind of guerrilla war is baseless and has been judged to be
without merit, without basis and can only be harmful to the total
Jewish community,” he said.

Dimant said B’nai Brith Canada has adopted a new constitution and
rules of governance similar to those employed by many other Jewish
organizations.

In particular, its constitution mirrors that of BBI. The change was
designed to strengthen its governance practices, stated BBC national
president Gerry Weinstein.

BBC provided The CJN with a one-paragraph statement quoting the BBI
appeals court judgment, but it did not provide any supporting
documentation.

The court ruled: “Having carefully reviewed all the pleadings,
arguments and documentation put forward by the parties, the justices
of this honourable court do unanimously find that there is no basis to
the complaints on which the appellants rely. The amended constitution
of B’nai Brith Canada was duly passed at a legally constituted meeting
of the organization within its governing body’s full jurisdiction. No
irregularity in the procedures followed by B’nai Brith Canada has been
made out that would invoke the jurisdiction of this court.
Accordingly, the appeal is hereby dismissed.”

Dimant said despite the court’s finding, “you have some disgruntled
members, a handful, very small.”

He said some have ties to The CJN and can be said to have a personal
conflict of interest in seeking to undermine BBC’s Jewish Tribune
newspaper.

As for the others, “we are talking about some individuals who like to
think history was different at one point. I think lots of people want
to recapture youth and reflect on things that didn’t happen the way
they remembered.

“My concern is that BBC is a leading Jewish organization, high
profile, which has great government relations. Our League [for Human
Rights] is doing a superb job to battle anti-Semitism. It would seem
to me the energies of these people should be directed forward to help
the Jewish community,” he said.

For his part, Gimpel rejects the BBI court decision, calling it “a
travesty of justice.”

He speculated that three, perhaps four lodges accounting for 25 per
cent of BBC’s membership might eventually leave the organization.

“I give B’nai Brith two years if this carries on. Members are getting
fed up… The lodges will be gone.”

http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86


In other words at worst only 20% will leave. Jews argue it is well
documented in the Bible. One person has a complaint and no one else of
the Jewish faith is backing him.
 
  
>Gimpel has stated that"problems really started when we stopped 
>getting financial statements in advance of the AGMs"

>"Everything was manipulated."

>We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith.
>How is that money used?
>Where does it go?
>We don't know."

>Since Ken McVay has been outed as being involved in
>ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for
>fraudulent tax charity receipts from Bb, no wonder
>executives of BB are very concerned.

>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
>for JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com

>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
>WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case -
>no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
>Christkiller ZHIDS!!

The Romans killed the LORD not Jews. You Nazis don't even tithe.
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org

Does he still clean the toilets of Turks?
>IHR - www.ihr.org

>Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org

Under constant FBI surveillance and the SCPL as well.
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage

>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
>Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
>American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
>Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com,
or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com,
or KenMcVay@vex.net
Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex,
homosexuals and the like.


From: Caduceus@eris.io.com
Date: Sat,  5 Jan 2008 21:10:15 +0000 (UTC)

Canadian Jewish News
Battle Brewing at B'nai Brith Canada
By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter
Thursday, 06 December 2007

TORONTO - A nasty battle is brewing at B'nai Brith Canada (BBC) over
allegations the organization's head office has centralized too much
power and is unaccountable to members - despite a decision of B'nai
Brith International's (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have
addressed the issue.

At least three former senior officials of B'nai Brith Canada are
raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at
BBC's head office in Toronto. Dissatisfaction is so great there has
been talk of breaking away to form a new service organization, one of
the ex-officials said.

At the same time, a group calling themselves "concerned members of
B'nai Brith Canada" have launched a newsletter purporting to offer
"BBC news without the spin." Its May 10, 2007, inaugural issue states
the group's goal is to "end the current dysfunctional corporate
governance at BBC and restore it to its once prominent position as a
respected and admired organization both inside and outside the Jewish
community." The group claims to represent lodge past presidents, BBC
past presidents, members of BBC's board of governors and national
administrative board.

The group's concerns were first reported in the New York-based paper
the Forward.

BBC's head office, meanwhile, rejects outright any suggestion there is
anything amiss in the organization's corporate governance. Frank
Dimant, BBC's executive vice-president, said all institutional changes
have been passed lawfully and complaints regarding the organization's
corporate structure have been definitively rejected by B'nai Brith
International's (BBI) highest appeal court. BBI is BBC's parent
organization.

In interviews with The CJN, two former national presidents and a past
chair of the Toronto regional co-ordinating committee said too much
power is concentrated at the organization's head office in Toronto and
the service group's 4,000 members are being shut out of
decision-making. They called for greater corporate accountability and
transparency, particularly strict adherence to the organization's
constitution, which requires the presentation of audited financial
statements prior to the annual general meeting  (AGM).

Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to
20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge
presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has
been taking.

A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel
said that "problems really started when we stopped getting financial
statements" in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when
slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation.

"Everything was manipulated," he said.

"We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith. How is
that money used? Where does it go? We don't know."

[Since Ken McVay [The Nizkor Project] has been outed as being involved
in ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for fraudulent tax
charity receipts from BB, no wonder executives of BB are very concerned.
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
 "NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam"
 Message-ID: 
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
 "Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?"
 Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com> ]

Gimpel suggested B'nai Brith might face a serious revolt of the lodges
if the organization is not more responsive - perhaps even a
"breakaway" by some. "They're getting more and more fed up. There's
been talk about it," he said.

Morley Wolfe and Harvey Crestohl - both BBC past presidents - said
they want to see B'nai Brith revert to a more democratic,
representative and transparent organization.

Most BBC members don't know or don't care about the goings-on at
headquarters, Wolfe said. They are content to participate in lodge
activities and don't realize the organization has changed, he added.

He discounted suggestions that lodges might break away. BBC "still
does good work," he said.

What he is after is reform.

"I'm not trying to destroy the organization," he said. "I'm trying to
get some accountability and transparency."

Crestohl, who served as BBC president in the late 1970s and who has
been a lodge member for 51 years, said he and the other past
presidents would like to see more BBC members get involved in
organizational governance.

"We need a grassroots movement. We also need some leaders in the
community who give support to B'nai Brith to realize what's going on
and exert their influence on those running things to revert to being a
democratically run organization," he said.

Dimant stated that BBI's appeals court considered all the criticisms
and on July 20, 2007, ruled that "all the accusations have been
debunked."

"This kind of guerrilla war is baseless and has been judged to be
without merit, without basis and can only be harmful to the total
Jewish community," he said.

Dimant said B'nai Brith Canada has adopted a new constitution and
rules of governance similar to those employed by many other Jewish
organizations.

In particular, its constitution mirrors that of BBI. The change was
designed to strengthen its governance practices, stated BBC national
president Gerry Weinstein.

BBC provided The CJN with a one-paragraph statement quoting the BBI
appeals court judgment, but it did not provide any supporting
documentation.

The court ruled: "Having carefully reviewed all the pleadings,
arguments and documentation put forward by the parties, the justices
of this honourable court do unanimously find that there is no basis to
the complaints on which the appellants rely. The amended constitution
of B'nai Brith Canada was duly passed at a legally constituted meeting
of the organization within its governing body's full jurisdiction. No
irregularity in the procedures followed by B'nai Brith Canada has been
made out that would invoke the jurisdiction of this court.
Accordingly, the appeal is hereby dismissed."

Dimant said despite the court's finding, "you have some disgruntled
members, a handful, very small."

He said some have ties to The CJN and can be said to have a personal
conflict of interest in seeking to undermine BBC's Jewish Tribune
newspaper.

As for the others, "we are talking about some individuals who like to
think history was different at one point. I think lots of people want
to recapture youth and reflect on things that didn't happen the way
they remembered.

"My concern is that BBC is a leading Jewish organization, high
profile, which has great government relations. Our League [for Human
Rights] is doing a superb job to battle anti-Semitism. It would seem
to me the energies of these people should be directed forward to help
the Jewish community," he said.

For his part, Gimpel rejects the BBI court decision, calling it "a
travesty of justice."

He speculated that three, perhaps four lodges accounting for 25 per
cent of BBC's membership might eventually leave the organization.

"I give B'nai Brith two years if this carries on. Members are getting
fed up. The lodges will be gone."

http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86

http://tinyurl.com/3ceybq

http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:XWq_EgV_AFYJ:www.cjnews.com/
index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D13693%26Itemid%3D86
+%22Battle+brewing+at+B%27nai+Brith+Canada%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&lr=lang_en

     Kenneth McVay's American money laundering operation exposed;

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/7e8cbfce5f14ee8c?fwc=1
"The reason Canadian Kenneth McVay is distancing himself from the San Antonio
Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund? (It's illegal for one thing!)"
 Message-ID: <1o9ch2pv1bc148161ihkt26ngjteacj4p8@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e0028c076ac46510?fwc=1
"Kenneth N McVay is a Goy Mamzer Totally Owned by Jewry"
 Message-ID: <97ba28fa14b592c4ca0079950858babe@remailer.metacolo.com>


Even the past executives of BB did not know about the FRAUD INVOLVING PAYMENTS
TO KEN McVAY, and the issuing of fraudulent charitable donation receipts for 
payments to McVay's one man BUSINESS!!


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website 
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION 
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - 
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the 
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


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Yet another Montreal Synagogue Convicted for massive TAX FRAUD- Will CRA Now
Charge & Convict McVay & BB For Similar TAX FRAUD?

Canadian Jew News have a banner headline story covering half a page, on page
35 of the issue for April 10 2008.

When even jew news media must give a half page with banner headline to the
story, that will indicate how serious the story is.

Even honest jews do not like to have their crooked brethren bringing further
disrepute upon them.

What will the executives presently mismanaging B'NAI  BRITH  do now, in
connection with their ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING FOR KEN McVay?

Canada Revenue Agency [CRA] convicted the Montreal synagogue Congregation
Adath Israel Poale Zedek Anshei Ozeroff, and they were also fined almost HALF
A MILLION DOLLARS FOR TAX FRAUD!!

According to documents made public by CRA, the synagogue had issued fraudulent
charitable donation receipts worth almost $400,000 in the fiscal year ending
in 2005.

In addition to the huge fine, the synagogue has now also lost status as a
registered charity, and can no longer issue charitable donation receipts.

This synagogue had been previously audited in 2002, and had been warned at
that time.
This synagogue had been giving false charitable donation receipts for
fraudulent items such as membership fees, cemetery plots and the services of
the nursery school.

Now that CRA have finally got some balls in prosecuting for TAX FRAUD, it will
be only a matter of days before B'nai Brith will also get convicted, in
connection with their MONEY LAUNDERING FOR KEN MCVAY, 
THEIR ISSUING OF FRAUDULENT CHARITABLE DONATION RECEIPTS 
for payments to Ken McVays BUSINESS!!

Ken McVay and his huge  tax swindle, CRIMINAL MONEY LAUNDERING 
TAX FRAUD  involving the collusion of senior management at B'nai Brith, 
is now being exposed by Canadian Jew News, week after week, and is 
now a major cause of  B'Nai Brith Canada  Breaking Up!!

No wonder CRA & IRS are also very interested!

McVay can not call all the news stories false, since they are carried 
in the leading jew newspaper in Canada, Canadian Jew News, week 
after week with more and more prominent jews in BB demanding details !

Rumor is that CJN is now investigating further, with CRA, IRS,
BB executives, as well as RCMP and FBI regarding McVay's
CRIMINAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH COLLUSION OF BB 
AND ALSO MAZAL'S SAAF!!

It seems that large group of past presidents, and BB lodge presidents,
are even considering breaking away from the present BB and setting 
up a new jew charity group.

Apparently the present gang running BB have refused to provide 
audited  financial statements before the AGM, as required. Members 
are concerned about  what is happening to all the funds collected.

For example, isn't the money being LAUNDERED for the BUSINESS 
RUN BY Shabbas-Goy Ken McVay ILLEGAL?

Henry Gimpel a former regional BB Chair, said that a core
group of 15-20 former BB executives,are extremely concerned.

Gimpel has stated that"problems really started when we stopped 
getting financial statements in advance of the AGMs"

"Everything was manipulated."

We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith.
How is that money used?
Where does it go?
We don't know."


No wonder Ken McVay does not want this publicised!

Now, in the issue of Canadian Jew News for January 17 2008, 
there is a 2 page banner headline story about the ongoing 
problems at B'nai Brith Canada caused by this scandal.

On pages 6 and 17 of this issue, is a huge article about the existing 
managers of BB wanting to remove as members the dissident past 
presidents and long time members, who have been questioning the 
mismanagement and financial irregularities.

Many of the past executives now want the whole mess to go to Court,
so that the public will get proof of the irregularities, such as 
ILLEGAL CHARITABLE DONATION RECEIPTS FOR PAYMENTS 
TO McVAY'S BUSINESS!!

McVay TAX FRAUD Causing  B'Nai Brith Canada to Break Up!!
Also, it is stimulating Canadian & USA Tax FRAUD Investigations!
Full text of article follows at bottom of comments.
The article is from the JEW newspaper, so it must be true!

On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:15:02 -0800, in can.politics Greg Carr
 wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:35:11 -0700, SteveHorn 
wrote:

Canadian Jew News had  a huge banner headline story, over 2 pages,
[pages 12 & 28] in the issue of December 6 2007 regarding a major 
scandal involving the current BB Canada  managers.

Since this is a ZYD newspaper, it can not be called anti-semitic.
Published for jews, it MUST be TRUE,even if it does expose crooks!!


Since Ken McVay has been outed as being involved in
ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for
fraudulent tax charity receipts from Bb, no wonder
executives of BB are very concerned.

JEWS ONCE AGAIN ABUSING THEIR TAX EXEMPT STATUS TO FUND 
A NON-EXEMPT NIZKOR.ORG IN ELABORATE MONEY LAUNDERING 
AND KICKBACK SCAM? IRS & CRA WHERE ARE YOU?


JEWS ARE INDICTED FOR TAX FRAUD IN AMERICA:
http://www.pgdc.com/usa/item/?itemID=932870
  Thursday, January 10, 2008 Posted: 1:42 AM EST
Religious Leader and Others Indicted on Charitable Contribution Scheme; Other
Tax Fraud

A federal grand jury has handed down a 37-count indictment against the head of
a religious organization and related parties for conspiracy to defraud the
United States and agencies thereof. The numerous allegations include a
fraudulent charitable contribution and kickback scheme that resulted in
claimed deductions of up to 20 times the amount actually contributed,
international money laundering, mail and wire fraud, and filing false income
tax returns.


BROOKLYN RABBI AND SEVERAL ASSOCIATES CHARGED IN 
SOPHISTICATED  TAX FRAUD AND MONEY LAUNDERING SCHEME
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
THE ABOVE CON-GAME MIRRORS WHAT B'NAI BRITH DOES WITH 
NIZKOR.ORG RUN BY CONFIDENCE MAN KENNETH NEAL MCVAY.

Canadian Jewish News
Battle brewing at B'nai Brith Canada
By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter
Thursday, 06 December 2007

TORONTO - A nasty battle is brewing at B'nai Brith Canada (BBC) over
allegations the organization's head office has centralized too much
power and is unaccountable to members - despite a decision of B'nai
Brith International's (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have
addressed the issue.

At least three former senior officials of B'nai Brith Canada are
raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at
BBC's head office in Toronto. ...

Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to
20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge
presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has
been taking.

A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel
said that "problems really started when we stopped getting financial
statements" in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when
slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation.
"Everything was manipulated," he said.

"We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith. How is
that money used? Where does it go? We don't know."


[Since Ken McVay [The Nizkor Project] has been outed as being involved
in ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for fraudulent tax
charity receipts from BB, no wonder executives of BB are very concerned.
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
"NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam"
Message-ID: 
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
"Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?"
Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com> ]

http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86

http://tinyurl.com/3ceybq

http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:XWq_EgV_AFYJ:www.cjnews.com/
index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D13693%26
Itemid%3D86+%22Battle+brewing+at+B%27nai+Brith+Canada%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl
=us&lr=lang_en


Kenneth McVay's American money laundering operation exposed;
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/7e8cbfce5f14ee8c?fwc=1
"The reason Canadian Kenneth McVay is distancing himself from the San Antonio
Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund? (It's illegal for one thing!)"
Message-ID: <1o9ch2pv1bc148161ihkt26ngjteacj4p8@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e0028c076ac46510?fwc=1
"Kenneth N McVay is a Goy Mamzer Totally Owned by Jewry"
Message-ID: 97ba28fa14b592c4ca0079950858babe@remailer.metacolo.com


B'NAI BRITH, SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION AND NIZKOR.ORG SHOULD ALL 
BE SHUT DOWN AND THE PERPETRATORS IN EACH INSTITUTION MUST BE 
PROSECUTED TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW. THEIR TAX EVASIONS SCHEMES
ARE CRIMES AGAINST THE WORKING PEOPLE; CRIMES WHICH SHOULD NOT 
GO UNPUNISHED.


JEWS ONCE AGAIN ABUSING THEIR TAX EXEMPT STATUS TO FUND A NON-EXEMPT
NIZKOR.ORG IN ELABORATE MONEY LAUNDERING AND KICKBACK SCAM? 
IRS & CRA WHERE ARE YOU?



For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case -
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com,
or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com,
or KenMcVay@vex.net
Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex,
homosexuals and the like.

>Canadian Jew News had  a huge banner headline story, over 2 pages,
>[pages 12 & 28] in the issue of December 6 2007 regarding a major 
>scandal involving the current BB Canada  managers.

>Since this is a ZYD newspaper, it can not be called anti-semitic.
>Published for jews, it MUST be TRUE!!

So stupid why didn't you show the url?
The entire original article is below, cretin.

>No wonder honest jews are incenced!

>It seems that large group of past presidents, and BB lodge presidents,
>are even considering breaking away from the present BB and setting 
>up a new jew charity group.

>Apparently the present gang running BB have refused to provide 
>audited  financial statements before the AGM, as required. members 
>are concerned about  what is happening to all the funds collected.

>For example, is the money being LAUNDERED for the BUSINESS 
>RUN BY Shabbas-Goy Ken McVay LEGAL?

Ken McVay uber alles.

>Henry Gimpel a former regional BB Chair, said that a core
>group of 15-20 former BB executives,are extremely concerned.

Battle brewing at B’nai Brith Canada  
By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter     
Thursday, 06 December 2007  
TORONTO — A nasty battle is brewing at B’nai Brith Canada (BBC) over
allegations the organization’s head office has centralized too much
power and is unaccountable to members – despite a decision of B’nai
Brith International’s (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have
addressed the issue.

At least three former senior officials of B’nai Brith Canada are
raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at
BBC’s head office in Toronto. Dissatisfaction is so great there has
been talk of breaking away to form a new service organization, one of
the ex-officials said.

At the same time, a group calling themselves “concerned members of
B’nai Brith Canada” have launched a newsletter purporting to offer
“BBC news without the spin.” Its May 10, 2007, inaugural issue states
the group’s goal is to “end the current dysfunctional corporate
governance at BBC and restore it to its once prominent position as a
respected and admired organization both inside and outside the Jewish
community.” The group claims to represent lodge past presidents, BBC
past presidents, members of BBC’s board of governors and national
administrative board.

The group’s concerns were first reported in the New York-based paper
the Forward.

BBC’s head office, meanwhile, rejects outright any suggestion there is
anything amiss in the organization’s corporate governance. Frank
Dimant, BBC’s executive vice-president, said all institutional changes
have been passed lawfully and complaints regarding the organization’s
corporate structure have been definitively rejected by B’nai Brith
International’s (BBI) highest appeal court. BBI is BBC’s parent
organization.

In interviews with The CJN, two former national presidents and a past
chair of the Toronto regional co-ordinating committee said too much
power is concentrated at the organization’s head office in Toronto and
the service group’s 4,000 members are being shut out of
decision-making. They called for greater corporate accountability and
transparency, particularly strict adherence to the organization’s
constitution, which requires the presentation of audited financial
statements prior to the annual general meeting  (AGM).

Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to
20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge
presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has
been taking.

A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel
said that “problems really started when we stopped getting financial
statements” in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when
slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation.

“Everything was manipulated,” he said.

“We want accountability. We are raising funds for B’nai Brith. How is
that money used? Where does it go? We don’t know.”

Gimpel suggested B’nai Brith might face a serious revolt of the lodges
if the organization is not more responsive – perhaps even a
“breakaway” by some. “They’re getting more and more fed up. There’s
been talk about it,” he said.

Morley Wolfe and Harvey Crestohl – both BBC past presidents – said
they want to see B’nai Brith revert to a more democratic,
representative and transparent organization.

Most BBC members don’t know or don’t care about the goings-on at
headquarters, Wolfe said. They are content to participate in lodge
activities and don’t realize the organization has changed, he added.

He discounted suggestions that lodges might break away. BBC “still
does good work,” he said.

What he is after is reform.

“I’m not trying to destroy the organization,” he said. “I’m trying to
get some accountability and transparency.”

Crestohl, who served as BBC president in the late 1970s and who has
been a lodge member for 51 years, said he and the other past
presidents would like to see more BBC members get involved in
organizational governance.

“We need a grassroots movement. We also need some leaders in the
community who give support to B’nai Brith to realize what’s going on
and exert their influence on those running things to revert to being a
democratically run organization,” he said.

Dimant stated that BBI’s appeals court considered all the criticisms
and on July 20, 2007, ruled that “all the accusations have been
debunked.”

“This kind of guerrilla war is baseless and has been judged to be
without merit, without basis and can only be harmful to the total
Jewish community,” he said.

Dimant said B’nai Brith Canada has adopted a new constitution and
rules of governance similar to those employed by many other Jewish
organizations.

In particular, its constitution mirrors that of BBI. The change was
designed to strengthen its governance practices, stated BBC national
president Gerry Weinstein.

BBC provided The CJN with a one-paragraph statement quoting the BBI
appeals court judgment, but it did not provide any supporting
documentation.

The court ruled: “Having carefully reviewed all the pleadings,
arguments and documentation put forward by the parties, the justices
of this honourable court do unanimously find that there is no basis to
the complaints on which the appellants rely. The amended constitution
of B’nai Brith Canada was duly passed at a legally constituted meeting
of the organization within its governing body’s full jurisdiction. No
irregularity in the procedures followed by B’nai Brith Canada has been
made out that would invoke the jurisdiction of this court.
Accordingly, the appeal is hereby dismissed.”

Dimant said despite the court’s finding, “you have some disgruntled
members, a handful, very small.”

He said some have ties to The CJN and can be said to have a personal
conflict of interest in seeking to undermine BBC’s Jewish Tribune
newspaper.

As for the others, “we are talking about some individuals who like to
think history was different at one point. I think lots of people want
to recapture youth and reflect on things that didn’t happen the way
they remembered.

“My concern is that BBC is a leading Jewish organization, high
profile, which has great government relations. Our League [for Human
Rights] is doing a superb job to battle anti-Semitism. It would seem
to me the energies of these people should be directed forward to help
the Jewish community,” he said.

For his part, Gimpel rejects the BBI court decision, calling it “a
travesty of justice.”

He speculated that three, perhaps four lodges accounting for 25 per
cent of BBC’s membership might eventually leave the organization.

“I give B’nai Brith two years if this carries on. Members are getting
fed up… The lodges will be gone.”

http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86


In other words at worst only 20% will leave. Jews argue it is well
documented in the Bible. One person has a complaint and no one else of
the Jewish faith is backing him.
 
  
>Gimpel has stated that"problems really started when we stopped 
>getting financial statements in advance of the AGMs"

>"Everything was manipulated."

>We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith.
>How is that money used?
>Where does it go?
>We don't know."

>Since Ken McVay has been outed as being involved in
>ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for
>fraudulent tax charity receipts from Bb, no wonder
>executives of BB are very concerned.

>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
>for JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com

>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
>WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case -
>no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
>Christkiller ZHIDS!!

The Romans killed the LORD not Jews. You Nazis don't even tithe.
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org

Does he still clean the toilets of Turks?
>IHR - www.ihr.org

>Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org

Under constant FBI surveillance and the SCPL as well.
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage

>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
>Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
>American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
>Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


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or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com,
or KenMcVay@vex.net
Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex,
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From: Caduceus@eris.io.com
Date: Sat,  5 Jan 2008 21:10:15 +0000 (UTC)

Canadian Jewish News
Battle Brewing at B'nai Brith Canada
By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter
Thursday, 06 December 2007

TORONTO - A nasty battle is brewing at B'nai Brith Canada (BBC) over
allegations the organization's head office has centralized too much
power and is unaccountable to members - despite a decision of B'nai
Brith International's (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have
addressed the issue.

At least three former senior officials of B'nai Brith Canada are
raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at
BBC's head office in Toronto. Dissatisfaction is so great there has
been talk of breaking away to form a new service organization, one of
the ex-officials said.

At the same time, a group calling themselves "concerned members of
B'nai Brith Canada" have launched a newsletter purporting to offer
"BBC news without the spin." Its May 10, 2007, inaugural issue states
the group's goal is to "end the current dysfunctional corporate
governance at BBC and restore it to its once prominent position as a
respected and admired organization both inside and outside the Jewish
community." The group claims to represent lodge past presidents, BBC
past presidents, members of BBC's board of governors and national
administrative board.

The group's concerns were first reported in the New York-based paper
the Forward.

BBC's head office, meanwhile, rejects outright any suggestion there is
anything amiss in the organization's corporate governance. Frank
Dimant, BBC's executive vice-president, said all institutional changes
have been passed lawfully and complaints regarding the organization's
corporate structure have been definitively rejected by B'nai Brith
International's (BBI) highest appeal court. BBI is BBC's parent
organization.

In interviews with The CJN, two former national presidents and a past
chair of the Toronto regional co-ordinating committee said too much
power is concentrated at the organization's head office in Toronto and
the service group's 4,000 members are being shut out of
decision-making. They called for greater corporate accountability and
transparency, particularly strict adherence to the organization's
constitution, which requires the presentation of audited financial
statements prior to the annual general meeting  (AGM).

Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to
20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge
presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has
been taking.

A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel
said that "problems really started when we stopped getting financial
statements" in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when
slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation.

"Everything was manipulated," he said.

"We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith. How is
that money used? Where does it go? We don't know."

[Since Ken McVay [The Nizkor Project] has been outed as being involved
in ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for fraudulent tax
charity receipts from BB, no wonder executives of BB are very concerned.
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
 "NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam"
 Message-ID: 
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
 "Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?"
 Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com> ]

Gimpel suggested B'nai Brith might face a serious revolt of the lodges
if the organization is not more responsive - perhaps even a
"breakaway" by some. "They're getting more and more fed up. There's
been talk about it," he said.

Morley Wolfe and Harvey Crestohl - both BBC past presidents - said
they want to see B'nai Brith revert to a more democratic,
representative and transparent organization.

Most BBC members don't know or don't care about the goings-on at
headquarters, Wolfe said. They are content to participate in lodge
activities and don't realize the organization has changed, he added.

He discounted suggestions that lodges might break away. BBC "still
does good work," he said.

What he is after is reform.

"I'm not trying to destroy the organization," he said. "I'm trying to
get some accountability and transparency."

Crestohl, who served as BBC president in the late 1970s and who has
been a lodge member for 51 years, said he and the other past
presidents would like to see more BBC members get involved in
organizational governance.

"We need a grassroots movement. We also need some leaders in the
community who give support to B'nai Brith to realize what's going on
and exert their influence on those running things to revert to being a
democratically run organization," he said.

Dimant stated that BBI's appeals court considered all the criticisms
and on July 20, 2007, ruled that "all the accusations have been
debunked."

"This kind of guerrilla war is baseless and has been judged to be
without merit, without basis and can only be harmful to the total
Jewish community," he said.

Dimant said B'nai Brith Canada has adopted a new constitution and
rules of governance similar to those employed by many other Jewish
organizations.

In particular, its constitution mirrors that of BBI. The change was
designed to strengthen its governance practices, stated BBC national
president Gerry Weinstein.

BBC provided The CJN with a one-paragraph statement quoting the BBI
appeals court judgment, but it did not provide any supporting
documentation.

The court ruled: "Having carefully reviewed all the pleadings,
arguments and documentation put forward by the parties, the justices
of this honourable court do unanimously find that there is no basis to
the complaints on which the appellants rely. The amended constitution
of B'nai Brith Canada was duly passed at a legally constituted meeting
of the organization within its governing body's full jurisdiction. No
irregularity in the procedures followed by B'nai Brith Canada has been
made out that would invoke the jurisdiction of this court.
Accordingly, the appeal is hereby dismissed."

Dimant said despite the court's finding, "you have some disgruntled
members, a handful, very small."

He said some have ties to The CJN and can be said to have a personal
conflict of interest in seeking to undermine BBC's Jewish Tribune
newspaper.

As for the others, "we are talking about some individuals who like to
think history was different at one point. I think lots of people want
to recapture youth and reflect on things that didn't happen the way
they remembered.

"My concern is that BBC is a leading Jewish organization, high
profile, which has great government relations. Our League [for Human
Rights] is doing a superb job to battle anti-Semitism. It would seem
to me the energies of these people should be directed forward to help
the Jewish community," he said.

For his part, Gimpel rejects the BBI court decision, calling it "a
travesty of justice."

He speculated that three, perhaps four lodges accounting for 25 per
cent of BBC's membership might eventually leave the organization.

"I give B'nai Brith two years if this carries on. Members are getting
fed up. The lodges will be gone."

http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86

http://tinyurl.com/3ceybq

http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:XWq_EgV_AFYJ:www.cjnews.com/
index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D13693%26Itemid%3D86
+%22Battle+brewing+at+B%27nai+Brith+Canada%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&lr=lang_en

     Kenneth McVay's American money laundering operation exposed;

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/7e8cbfce5f14ee8c?fwc=1
"The reason Canadian Kenneth McVay is distancing himself from the San Antonio
Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund? (It's illegal for one thing!)"
 Message-ID: <1o9ch2pv1bc148161ihkt26ngjteacj4p8@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e0028c076ac46510?fwc=1
"Kenneth N McVay is a Goy Mamzer Totally Owned by Jewry"
 Message-ID: <97ba28fa14b592c4ca0079950858babe@remailer.metacolo.com>


Even the past executives of BB did not know about the FRAUD INVOLVING PAYMENTS
TO KEN McVAY, and the issuing of fraudulent charitable donation receipts for 
payments to McVay's one man BUSINESS!!


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website 
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION 
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - 
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the 
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


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Yet another Montreal Synagogue Convicted for massive TAX FRAUD- Will CRA Now
Charge & Convict McVay & BB For Similar TAX FRAUD?

Canadian Jew News have a banner headline story covering half a page, on page
35 of the issue for April 10 2008.

When even jew news media must give a half page with banner headline to the
story, that will indicate how serious the story is.

Even honest jews do not like to have their crooked brethren bringing further
disrepute upon them.

What will the executives presently mismanaging B'Nai Brith do now, in
connection with their ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING FOR KEN McVay?

Canada Revenue Agency [CRA] convicted the Montreal synagogue Congregation
Adath Israel Poale Zedek Anshei Ozeroff, and they were also fined almost HALF
A MILLION DOLLARS FOR TAX FRAUD!!

According to documents made public by CRA, the synagogue had issued fraudulent
charitable donation receipts worth almost $400,000 in the fiscal year ending
in 2005.

In addition to the huge fine, the synagogue has now also lost status as a
registered charity, and can no longer issue charitable donation receipts.

This synagogue had been previously audited in 2002, and had been warned at
that time.
This synagogue had been giving false charitable donation receipts for
fraudulent items such as membership fees, cemetery plots and the services of
the nursery school.

Now that CRA have finally got some balls in prosecuting for TAX FRAUD, it will
be only a matter of days before B'nai Brith will also get convicted, in
connection with their MONEY LAUNDERING FOR KEN MCVAY, 
THEIR ISSUING OF FRAUDULENT CHARITABLE DONATION RECEIPTS 
for payments to Ken McVays BUSINESS!!

Ken McVay and his huge  tax swindle, CRIMINAL MONEY LAUNDERING 
TAX FRAUD  involving the collusion of senior management at B'nai Brith, 
is now being exposed by Canadian Jew News, week after week, and is 
now a major cause of  B'Nai Brith Canada  Breaking Up!!

No wonder CRA & IRS are also very interested!

McVay can not call all the news stories false, since they are carried 
in the leading jew newspaper in Canada, Canadian Jew News, week 
after week with more and more prominent jews in BB demanding details !

Rumor is that CJN is now investigating further, with CRA, IRS,
BB executives, as well as RCMP and FBI regarding McVay's
CRIMINAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH COLLUSION OF BB 
AND ALSO MAZAL'S SAAF!!

It seems that large group of past presidents, and BB lodge presidents,
are even considering breaking away from the present BB and setting 
up a new jew charity group.

Apparently the present gang running BB have refused to provide 
audited  financial statements before the AGM, as required. Members 
are concerned about  what is happening to all the funds collected.

For example, isn't the money being LAUNDERED for the BUSINESS 
RUN BY Shabbas-Goy Ken McVay ILLEGAL?

Henry Gimpel a former regional BB Chair, said that a core
group of 15-20 former BB executives,are extremely concerned.

Gimpel has stated that"problems really started when we stopped 
getting financial statements in advance of the AGMs"

"Everything was manipulated."

We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith.
How is that money used?
Where does it go?
We don't know."


No wonder Ken McVay does not want this publicised!

Now, in the issue of Canadian Jew News for January 17 2008, 
there is a 2 page banner headline story about the ongoing 
problems at B'nai Brith Canada caused by this scandal.

On pages 6 and 17 of this issue, is a huge article about the existing 
managers of BB wanting to remove as members the dissident past 
presidents and long time members, who have been questioning the 
mismanagement and financial irregularities.

Many of the past executives now want the whole mess to go to Court,
so that the public will get proof of the irregularities, such as 
ILLEGAL CHARITABLE DONATION RECEIPTS FOR PAYMENTS 
TO McVAY'S BUSINESS!!

McVay TAX FRAUD Causing  B'Nai Brith Canada to Break Up!!
Also, it is stimulating Canadian & USA Tax FRAUD Investigations!
Full text of article follows at bottom of comments.
The article is from the JEW newspaper, so it must be true!

On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:15:02 -0800, in can.politics Greg Carr
 wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:35:11 -0700, SteveHorn 
wrote:

Canadian Jew News had  a huge banner headline story, over 2 pages,
[pages 12 & 28] in the issue of December 6 2007 regarding a major 
scandal involving the current BB Canada  managers.

Since this is a ZYD newspaper, it can not be called anti-semitic.
Published for jews, it MUST be TRUE,even if it does expose crooks!!


Since Ken McVay has been outed as being involved in
ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for
fraudulent tax charity receipts from Bb, no wonder
executives of BB are very concerned.

JEWS ONCE AGAIN ABUSING THEIR TAX EXEMPT STATUS TO FUND 
A NON-EXEMPT NIZKOR.ORG IN ELABORATE MONEY LAUNDERING 
AND KICKBACK SCAM? IRS & CRA WHERE ARE YOU?


JEWS ARE INDICTED FOR TAX FRAUD IN AMERICA:
http://www.pgdc.com/usa/item/?itemID=932870
  Thursday, January 10, 2008 Posted: 1:42 AM EST
Religious Leader and Others Indicted on Charitable Contribution Scheme; Other
Tax Fraud

A federal grand jury has handed down a 37-count indictment against the head of
a religious organization and related parties for conspiracy to defraud the
United States and agencies thereof. The numerous allegations include a
fraudulent charitable contribution and kickback scheme that resulted in
claimed deductions of up to 20 times the amount actually contributed,
international money laundering, mail and wire fraud, and filing false income
tax returns.


BROOKLYN RABBI AND SEVERAL ASSOCIATES CHARGED IN 
SOPHISTICATED  TAX FRAUD AND MONEY LAUNDERING SCHEME
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
THE ABOVE CON-GAME MIRRORS WHAT B'NAI BRITH DOES WITH 
NIZKOR.ORG RUN BY CONFIDENCE MAN KENNETH NEAL MCVAY.

Canadian Jewish News
Battle brewing at B'nai Brith Canada
By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter
Thursday, 06 December 2007

TORONTO - A nasty battle is brewing at B'nai Brith Canada (BBC) over
allegations the organization's head office has centralized too much
power and is unaccountable to members - despite a decision of B'nai
Brith International's (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have
addressed the issue.

At least three former senior officials of B'nai Brith Canada are
raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at
BBC's head office in Toronto. ...

Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to
20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge
presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has
been taking.

A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel
said that "problems really started when we stopped getting financial
statements" in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when
slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation.
"Everything was manipulated," he said.

"We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith. How is
that money used? Where does it go? We don't know."


[Since Ken McVay [The Nizkor Project] has been outed as being involved
in ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for fraudulent tax
charity receipts from BB, no wonder executives of BB are very concerned.
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
"NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam"
Message-ID: 
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
"Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?"
Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com> ]

http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86

http://tinyurl.com/3ceybq

http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:XWq_EgV_AFYJ:www.cjnews.com/
index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D13693%26
Itemid%3D86+%22Battle+brewing+at+B%27nai+Brith+Canada%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl
=us&lr=lang_en


Kenneth McVay's American money laundering operation exposed;
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/7e8cbfce5f14ee8c?fwc=1
"The reason Canadian Kenneth McVay is distancing himself from the San Antonio
Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund? (It's illegal for one thing!)"
Message-ID: <1o9ch2pv1bc148161ihkt26ngjteacj4p8@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e0028c076ac46510?fwc=1
"Kenneth N McVay is a Goy Mamzer Totally Owned by Jewry"
Message-ID: 97ba28fa14b592c4ca0079950858babe@remailer.metacolo.com


B'NAI BRITH, SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION AND NIZKOR.ORG SHOULD ALL 
BE SHUT DOWN AND THE PERPETRATORS IN EACH INSTITUTION MUST BE 
PROSECUTED TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW. THEIR TAX EVASIONS SCHEMES
ARE CRIMES AGAINST THE WORKING PEOPLE; CRIMES WHICH SHOULD NOT 
GO UNPUNISHED.


JEWS ONCE AGAIN ABUSING THEIR TAX EXEMPT STATUS TO FUND A NON-EXEMPT
NIZKOR.ORG IN ELABORATE MONEY LAUNDERING AND KICKBACK SCAM? 
IRS & CRA WHERE ARE YOU?



For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case -
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com,
or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com,
or KenMcVay@vex.net
Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex,
homosexuals and the like.

>Canadian Jew News had  a huge banner headline story, over 2 pages,
>[pages 12 & 28] in the issue of December 6 2007 regarding a major 
>scandal involving the current BB Canada  managers.

>Since this is a ZYD newspaper, it can not be called anti-semitic.
>Published for jews, it MUST be TRUE!!

So stupid why didn't you show the url?
The entire original article is below, cretin.

>No wonder honest jews are incenced!

>It seems that large group of past presidents, and BB lodge presidents,
>are even considering breaking away from the present BB and setting 
>up a new jew charity group.

>Apparently the present gang running BB have refused to provide 
>audited  financial statements before the AGM, as required. members 
>are concerned about  what is happening to all the funds collected.

>For example, is the money being LAUNDERED for the BUSINESS 
>RUN BY Shabbas-Goy Ken McVay LEGAL?

Ken McVay uber alles.

>Henry Gimpel a former regional BB Chair, said that a core
>group of 15-20 former BB executives,are extremely concerned.

Battle brewing at B’nai Brith Canada  
By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter     
Thursday, 06 December 2007  
TORONTO — A nasty battle is brewing at B’nai Brith Canada (BBC) over
allegations the organization’s head office has centralized too much
power and is unaccountable to members – despite a decision of B’nai
Brith International’s (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have
addressed the issue.

At least three former senior officials of B’nai Brith Canada are
raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at
BBC’s head office in Toronto. Dissatisfaction is so great there has
been talk of breaking away to form a new service organization, one of
the ex-officials said.

At the same time, a group calling themselves “concerned members of
B’nai Brith Canada” have launched a newsletter purporting to offer
“BBC news without the spin.” Its May 10, 2007, inaugural issue states
the group’s goal is to “end the current dysfunctional corporate
governance at BBC and restore it to its once prominent position as a
respected and admired organization both inside and outside the Jewish
community.” The group claims to represent lodge past presidents, BBC
past presidents, members of BBC’s board of governors and national
administrative board.

The group’s concerns were first reported in the New York-based paper
the Forward.

BBC’s head office, meanwhile, rejects outright any suggestion there is
anything amiss in the organization’s corporate governance. Frank
Dimant, BBC’s executive vice-president, said all institutional changes
have been passed lawfully and complaints regarding the organization’s
corporate structure have been definitively rejected by B’nai Brith
International’s (BBI) highest appeal court. BBI is BBC’s parent
organization.

In interviews with The CJN, two former national presidents and a past
chair of the Toronto regional co-ordinating committee said too much
power is concentrated at the organization’s head office in Toronto and
the service group’s 4,000 members are being shut out of
decision-making. They called for greater corporate accountability and
transparency, particularly strict adherence to the organization’s
constitution, which requires the presentation of audited financial
statements prior to the annual general meeting  (AGM).

Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to
20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge
presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has
been taking.

A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel
said that “problems really started when we stopped getting financial
statements” in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when
slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation.

“Everything was manipulated,” he said.

“We want accountability. We are raising funds for B’nai Brith. How is
that money used? Where does it go? We don’t know.”

Gimpel suggested B’nai Brith might face a serious revolt of the lodges
if the organization is not more responsive – perhaps even a
“breakaway” by some. “They’re getting more and more fed up. There’s
been talk about it,” he said.

Morley Wolfe and Harvey Crestohl – both BBC past presidents – said
they want to see B’nai Brith revert to a more democratic,
representative and transparent organization.

Most BBC members don’t know or don’t care about the goings-on at
headquarters, Wolfe said. They are content to participate in lodge
activities and don’t realize the organization has changed, he added.

He discounted suggestions that lodges might break away. BBC “still
does good work,” he said.

What he is after is reform.

“I’m not trying to destroy the organization,” he said. “I’m trying to
get some accountability and transparency.”

Crestohl, who served as BBC president in the late 1970s and who has
been a lodge member for 51 years, said he and the other past
presidents would like to see more BBC members get involved in
organizational governance.

“We need a grassroots movement. We also need some leaders in the
community who give support to B’nai Brith to realize what’s going on
and exert their influence on those running things to revert to being a
democratically run organization,” he said.

Dimant stated that BBI’s appeals court considered all the criticisms
and on July 20, 2007, ruled that “all the accusations have been
debunked.”

“This kind of guerrilla war is baseless and has been judged to be
without merit, without basis and can only be harmful to the total
Jewish community,” he said.

Dimant said B’nai Brith Canada has adopted a new constitution and
rules of governance similar to those employed by many other Jewish
organizations.

In particular, its constitution mirrors that of BBI. The change was
designed to strengthen its governance practices, stated BBC national
president Gerry Weinstein.

BBC provided The CJN with a one-paragraph statement quoting the BBI
appeals court judgment, but it did not provide any supporting
documentation.

The court ruled: “Having carefully reviewed all the pleadings,
arguments and documentation put forward by the parties, the justices
of this honourable court do unanimously find that there is no basis to
the complaints on which the appellants rely. The amended constitution
of B’nai Brith Canada was duly passed at a legally constituted meeting
of the organization within its governing body’s full jurisdiction. No
irregularity in the procedures followed by B’nai Brith Canada has been
made out that would invoke the jurisdiction of this court.
Accordingly, the appeal is hereby dismissed.”

Dimant said despite the court’s finding, “you have some disgruntled
members, a handful, very small.”

He said some have ties to The CJN and can be said to have a personal
conflict of interest in seeking to undermine BBC’s Jewish Tribune
newspaper.

As for the others, “we are talking about some individuals who like to
think history was different at one point. I think lots of people want
to recapture youth and reflect on things that didn’t happen the way
they remembered.

“My concern is that BBC is a leading Jewish organization, high
profile, which has great government relations. Our League [for Human
Rights] is doing a superb job to battle anti-Semitism. It would seem
to me the energies of these people should be directed forward to help
the Jewish community,” he said.

For his part, Gimpel rejects the BBI court decision, calling it “a
travesty of justice.”

He speculated that three, perhaps four lodges accounting for 25 per
cent of BBC’s membership might eventually leave the organization.

“I give B’nai Brith two years if this carries on. Members are getting
fed up… The lodges will be gone.”

http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86


In other words at worst only 20% will leave. Jews argue it is well
documented in the Bible. One person has a complaint and no one else of
the Jewish faith is backing him.
 
  
>Gimpel has stated that"problems really started when we stopped 
>getting financial statements in advance of the AGMs"

>"Everything was manipulated."

>We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith.
>How is that money used?
>Where does it go?
>We don't know."

>Since Ken McVay has been outed as being involved in
>ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for
>fraudulent tax charity receipts from Bb, no wonder
>executives of BB are very concerned.

>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
>for JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com

>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
>WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case -
>no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
>Christkiller ZHIDS!!

The Romans killed the LORD not Jews. You Nazis don't even tithe.
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org

Does he still clean the toilets of Turks?
>IHR - www.ihr.org

>Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org

Under constant FBI surveillance and the SCPL as well.
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage

>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
>Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
>American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
>Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


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From: Caduceus@eris.io.com
Date: Sat,  5 Jan 2008 21:10:15 +0000 (UTC)

Canadian Jewish News
Battle Brewing at B'nai Brith Canada
By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter
Thursday, 06 December 2007

TORONTO - A nasty battle is brewing at B'nai Brith Canada (BBC) over
allegations the organization's head office has centralized too much
power and is unaccountable to members - despite a decision of B'nai
Brith International's (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have
addressed the issue.

At least three former senior officials of B'nai Brith Canada are
raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at
BBC's head office in Toronto. Dissatisfaction is so great there has
been talk of breaking away to form a new service organization, one of
the ex-officials said.

At the same time, a group calling themselves "concerned members of
B'nai Brith Canada" have launched a newsletter purporting to offer
"BBC news without the spin." Its May 10, 2007, inaugural issue states
the group's goal is to "end the current dysfunctional corporate
governance at BBC and restore it to its once prominent position as a
respected and admired organization both inside and outside the Jewish
community." The group claims to represent lodge past presidents, BBC
past presidents, members of BBC's board of governors and national
administrative board.

The group's concerns were first reported in the New York-based paper
the Forward.

BBC's head office, meanwhile, rejects outright any suggestion there is
anything amiss in the organization's corporate governance. Frank
Dimant, BBC's executive vice-president, said all institutional changes
have been passed lawfully and complaints regarding the organization's
corporate structure have been definitively rejected by B'nai Brith
International's (BBI) highest appeal court. BBI is BBC's parent
organization.

In interviews with The CJN, two former national presidents and a past
chair of the Toronto regional co-ordinating committee said too much
power is concentrated at the organization's head office in Toronto and
the service group's 4,000 members are being shut out of
decision-making. They called for greater corporate accountability and
transparency, particularly strict adherence to the organization's
constitution, which requires the presentation of audited financial
statements prior to the annual general meeting  (AGM).

Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to
20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge
presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has
been taking.

A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel
said that "problems really started when we stopped getting financial
statements" in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when
slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation.

"Everything was manipulated," he said.

"We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith. How is
that money used? Where does it go? We don't know."

[Since Ken McVay [The Nizkor Project] has been outed as being involved
in ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for fraudulent tax
charity receipts from BB, no wonder executives of BB are very concerned.
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
 "NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam"
 Message-ID: 
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
 "Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?"
 Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com> ]

Gimpel suggested B'nai Brith might face a serious revolt of the lodges
if the organization is not more responsive - perhaps even a
"breakaway" by some. "They're getting more and more fed up. There's
been talk about it," he said.

Morley Wolfe and Harvey Crestohl - both BBC past presidents - said
they want to see B'nai Brith revert to a more democratic,
representative and transparent organization.

Most BBC members don't know or don't care about the goings-on at
headquarters, Wolfe said. They are content to participate in lodge
activities and don't realize the organization has changed, he added.

He discounted suggestions that lodges might break away. BBC "still
does good work," he said.

What he is after is reform.

"I'm not trying to destroy the organization," he said. "I'm trying to
get some accountability and transparency."

Crestohl, who served as BBC president in the late 1970s and who has
been a lodge member for 51 years, said he and the other past
presidents would like to see more BBC members get involved in
organizational governance.

"We need a grassroots movement. We also need some leaders in the
community who give support to B'nai Brith to realize what's going on
and exert their influence on those running things to revert to being a
democratically run organization," he said.

Dimant stated that BBI's appeals court considered all the criticisms
and on July 20, 2007, ruled that "all the accusations have been
debunked."

"This kind of guerrilla war is baseless and has been judged to be
without merit, without basis and can only be harmful to the total
Jewish community," he said.

Dimant said B'nai Brith Canada has adopted a new constitution and
rules of governance similar to those employed by many other Jewish
organizations.

In particular, its constitution mirrors that of BBI. The change was
designed to strengthen its governance practices, stated BBC national
president Gerry Weinstein.

BBC provided The CJN with a one-paragraph statement quoting the BBI
appeals court judgment, but it did not provide any supporting
documentation.

The court ruled: "Having carefully reviewed all the pleadings,
arguments and documentation put forward by the parties, the justices
of this honourable court do unanimously find that there is no basis to
the complaints on which the appellants rely. The amended constitution
of B'nai Brith Canada was duly passed at a legally constituted meeting
of the organization within its governing body's full jurisdiction. No
irregularity in the procedures followed by B'nai Brith Canada has been
made out that would invoke the jurisdiction of this court.
Accordingly, the appeal is hereby dismissed."

Dimant said despite the court's finding, "you have some disgruntled
members, a handful, very small."

He said some have ties to The CJN and can be said to have a personal
conflict of interest in seeking to undermine BBC's Jewish Tribune
newspaper.

As for the others, "we are talking about some individuals who like to
think history was different at one point. I think lots of people want
to recapture youth and reflect on things that didn't happen the way
they remembered.

"My concern is that BBC is a leading Jewish organization, high
profile, which has great government relations. Our League [for Human
Rights] is doing a superb job to battle anti-Semitism. It would seem
to me the energies of these people should be directed forward to help
the Jewish community," he said.

For his part, Gimpel rejects the BBI court decision, calling it "a
travesty of justice."

He speculated that three, perhaps four lodges accounting for 25 per
cent of BBC's membership might eventually leave the organization.

"I give B'nai Brith two years if this carries on. Members are getting
fed up. The lodges will be gone."

http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86

http://tinyurl.com/3ceybq

http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:XWq_EgV_AFYJ:www.cjnews.com/
index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D13693%26Itemid%3D86
+%22Battle+brewing+at+B%27nai+Brith+Canada%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&lr=lang_en

     Kenneth McVay's American money laundering operation exposed;

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/7e8cbfce5f14ee8c?fwc=1
"The reason Canadian Kenneth McVay is distancing himself from the San Antonio
Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund? (It's illegal for one thing!)"
 Message-ID: <1o9ch2pv1bc148161ihkt26ngjteacj4p8@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e0028c076ac46510?fwc=1
"Kenneth N McVay is a Goy Mamzer Totally Owned by Jewry"
 Message-ID: <97ba28fa14b592c4ca0079950858babe@remailer.metacolo.com>


Even the past executives of BB did not know about the FRAUD INVOLVING PAYMENTS
TO KEN McVAY, and the issuing of fraudulent charitable donation receipts for 
payments to McVay's one man BUSINESS!!


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website 
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION 
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - 
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the 
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


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Yet another Montreal Synagogue Convicted for massive TAX FRAUD- Will CRA Now
Charge & Convict McVay & BB For Similar TAX FRAUD?

Canadian Jew News have a banner headline story covering half a page, on page
35 of the issue for April 10 2008.

When even jew news media must give a half page with banner headline to the
story, that will indicate how serious the story is.

Even honest jews do not like to have their crooked brethren bringing further
disrepute upon them.

What will the executives presently mismanaging B'NAI  BRITH  do now, in
connection with their ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING FOR KEN McVay?

Canada Revenue Agency [CRA] convicted the Montreal synagogue Congregation
Adath Israel Poale Zedek Anshei Ozeroff, and they were also fined almost HALF
A MILLION DOLLARS FOR TAX FRAUD!!

According to documents made public by CRA, the synagogue had issued fraudulent
charitable donation receipts worth almost $400,000 in the fiscal year ending
in 2005.

In addition to the huge fine, the synagogue has now also lost status as a
registered charity, and can no longer issue charitable donation receipts.

This synagogue had been previously audited in 2002, and had been warned at
that time.
This synagogue had been giving false charitable donation receipts for
fraudulent items such as membership fees, cemetery plots and the services of
the nursery school.

Now that CRA have finally got some balls in prosecuting for TAX FRAUD, it will
be only a matter of days before B'nai Brith will also get convicted, in
connection with their MONEY LAUNDERING FOR KEN MCVAY, 
THEIR ISSUING OF FRAUDULENT CHARITABLE DONATION RECEIPTS 
for payments to Ken McVays BUSINESS!!

Ken McVay and his huge  tax swindle, CRIMINAL MONEY LAUNDERING 
TAX FRAUD  involving the collusion of senior management at B'nai Brith, 
is now being exposed by Canadian Jew News, week after week, and is 
now a major cause of  B'Nai Brith Canada  Breaking Up!!

No wonder CRA & IRS are also very interested!

McVay can not call all the news stories false, since they are carried 
in the leading jew newspaper in Canada, Canadian Jew News, week 
after week with more and more prominent jews in BB demanding details !

Rumor is that CJN is now investigating further, with CRA, IRS,
BB executives, as well as RCMP and FBI regarding McVay's
CRIMINAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH COLLUSION OF BB 
AND ALSO MAZAL'S SAAF!!

It seems that large group of past presidents, and BB lodge presidents,
are even considering breaking away from the present BB and setting 
up a new jew charity group.

Apparently the present gang running BB have refused to provide 
audited  financial statements before the AGM, as required. Members 
are concerned about  what is happening to all the funds collected.

For example, isn't the money being LAUNDERED for the BUSINESS 
RUN BY Shabbas-Goy Ken McVay ILLEGAL?

Henry Gimpel a former regional BB Chair, said that a core
group of 15-20 former BB executives,are extremely concerned.

Gimpel has stated that"problems really started when we stopped 
getting financial statements in advance of the AGMs"

"Everything was manipulated."

We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith.
How is that money used?
Where does it go?
We don't know."


No wonder Ken McVay does not want this publicised!

Now, in the issue of Canadian Jew News for January 17 2008, 
there is a 2 page banner headline story about the ongoing 
problems at B'nai Brith Canada caused by this scandal.

On pages 6 and 17 of this issue, is a huge article about the existing 
managers of BB wanting to remove as members the dissident past 
presidents and long time members, who have been questioning the 
mismanagement and financial irregularities.

Many of the past executives now want the whole mess to go to Court,
so that the public will get proof of the irregularities, such as 
ILLEGAL CHARITABLE DONATION RECEIPTS FOR PAYMENTS 
TO McVAY'S BUSINESS!!

McVay TAX FRAUD Causing  B'Nai Brith Canada to Break Up!!
Also, it is stimulating Canadian & USA Tax FRAUD Investigations!
Full text of article follows at bottom of comments.
The article is from the JEW newspaper, so it must be true!

On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:15:02 -0800, in can.politics Greg Carr
 wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:35:11 -0700, SteveHorn 
wrote:

Canadian Jew News had  a huge banner headline story, over 2 pages,
[pages 12 & 28] in the issue of December 6 2007 regarding a major 
scandal involving the current BB Canada  managers.

Since this is a ZYD newspaper, it can not be called anti-semitic.
Published for jews, it MUST be TRUE,even if it does expose crooks!!


Since Ken McVay has been outed as being involved in
ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for
fraudulent tax charity receipts from Bb, no wonder
executives of BB are very concerned.

JEWS ONCE AGAIN ABUSING THEIR TAX EXEMPT STATUS TO FUND 
A NON-EXEMPT NIZKOR.ORG IN ELABORATE MONEY LAUNDERING 
AND KICKBACK SCAM? IRS & CRA WHERE ARE YOU?


JEWS ARE INDICTED FOR TAX FRAUD IN AMERICA:
http://www.pgdc.com/usa/item/?itemID=932870
  Thursday, January 10, 2008 Posted: 1:42 AM EST
Religious Leader and Others Indicted on Charitable Contribution Scheme; Other
Tax Fraud

A federal grand jury has handed down a 37-count indictment against the head of
a religious organization and related parties for conspiracy to defraud the
United States and agencies thereof. The numerous allegations include a
fraudulent charitable contribution and kickback scheme that resulted in
claimed deductions of up to 20 times the amount actually contributed,
international money laundering, mail and wire fraud, and filing false income
tax returns.


BROOKLYN RABBI AND SEVERAL ASSOCIATES CHARGED IN 
SOPHISTICATED  TAX FRAUD AND MONEY LAUNDERING SCHEME
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
THE ABOVE CON-GAME MIRRORS WHAT B'NAI BRITH DOES WITH 
NIZKOR.ORG RUN BY CONFIDENCE MAN KENNETH NEAL MCVAY.

Canadian Jewish News
Battle brewing at B'nai Brith Canada
By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter
Thursday, 06 December 2007

TORONTO - A nasty battle is brewing at B'nai Brith Canada (BBC) over
allegations the organization's head office has centralized too much
power and is unaccountable to members - despite a decision of B'nai
Brith International's (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have
addressed the issue.

At least three former senior officials of B'nai Brith Canada are
raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at
BBC's head office in Toronto. ...

Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to
20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge
presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has
been taking.

A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel
said that "problems really started when we stopped getting financial
statements" in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when
slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation.
"Everything was manipulated," he said.

"We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith. How is
that money used? Where does it go? We don't know."


[Since Ken McVay [The Nizkor Project] has been outed as being involved
in ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for fraudulent tax
charity receipts from BB, no wonder executives of BB are very concerned.
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
"NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam"
Message-ID: 
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
"Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?"
Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com> ]

http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86

http://tinyurl.com/3ceybq

http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:XWq_EgV_AFYJ:www.cjnews.com/
index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D13693%26
Itemid%3D86+%22Battle+brewing+at+B%27nai+Brith+Canada%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl
=us&lr=lang_en


Kenneth McVay's American money laundering operation exposed;
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/7e8cbfce5f14ee8c?fwc=1
"The reason Canadian Kenneth McVay is distancing himself from the San Antonio
Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund? (It's illegal for one thing!)"
Message-ID: <1o9ch2pv1bc148161ihkt26ngjteacj4p8@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e0028c076ac46510?fwc=1
"Kenneth N McVay is a Goy Mamzer Totally Owned by Jewry"
Message-ID: 97ba28fa14b592c4ca0079950858babe@remailer.metacolo.com


B'NAI BRITH, SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION AND NIZKOR.ORG SHOULD ALL 
BE SHUT DOWN AND THE PERPETRATORS IN EACH INSTITUTION MUST BE 
PROSECUTED TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW. THEIR TAX EVASIONS SCHEMES
ARE CRIMES AGAINST THE WORKING PEOPLE; CRIMES WHICH SHOULD NOT 
GO UNPUNISHED.


JEWS ONCE AGAIN ABUSING THEIR TAX EXEMPT STATUS TO FUND A NON-EXEMPT
NIZKOR.ORG IN ELABORATE MONEY LAUNDERING AND KICKBACK SCAM? 
IRS & CRA WHERE ARE YOU?



For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case -
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com,
or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com,
or KenMcVay@vex.net
Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex,
homosexuals and the like.

>Canadian Jew News had  a huge banner headline story, over 2 pages,
>[pages 12 & 28] in the issue of December 6 2007 regarding a major 
>scandal involving the current BB Canada  managers.

>Since this is a ZYD newspaper, it can not be called anti-semitic.
>Published for jews, it MUST be TRUE!!

So stupid why didn't you show the url?
The entire original article is below, cretin.

>No wonder honest jews are incenced!

>It seems that large group of past presidents, and BB lodge presidents,
>are even considering breaking away from the present BB and setting 
>up a new jew charity group.

>Apparently the present gang running BB have refused to provide 
>audited  financial statements before the AGM, as required. members 
>are concerned about  what is happening to all the funds collected.

>For example, is the money being LAUNDERED for the BUSINESS 
>RUN BY Shabbas-Goy Ken McVay LEGAL?

Ken McVay uber alles.

>Henry Gimpel a former regional BB Chair, said that a core
>group of 15-20 former BB executives,are extremely concerned.

Battle brewing at B’nai Brith Canada  
By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter     
Thursday, 06 December 2007  
TORONTO — A nasty battle is brewing at B’nai Brith Canada (BBC) over
allegations the organization’s head office has centralized too much
power and is unaccountable to members – despite a decision of B’nai
Brith International’s (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have
addressed the issue.

At least three former senior officials of B’nai Brith Canada are
raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at
BBC’s head office in Toronto. Dissatisfaction is so great there has
been talk of breaking away to form a new service organization, one of
the ex-officials said.

At the same time, a group calling themselves “concerned members of
B’nai Brith Canada” have launched a newsletter purporting to offer
“BBC news without the spin.” Its May 10, 2007, inaugural issue states
the group’s goal is to “end the current dysfunctional corporate
governance at BBC and restore it to its once prominent position as a
respected and admired organization both inside and outside the Jewish
community.” The group claims to represent lodge past presidents, BBC
past presidents, members of BBC’s board of governors and national
administrative board.

The group’s concerns were first reported in the New York-based paper
the Forward.

BBC’s head office, meanwhile, rejects outright any suggestion there is
anything amiss in the organization’s corporate governance. Frank
Dimant, BBC’s executive vice-president, said all institutional changes
have been passed lawfully and complaints regarding the organization’s
corporate structure have been definitively rejected by B’nai Brith
International’s (BBI) highest appeal court. BBI is BBC’s parent
organization.

In interviews with The CJN, two former national presidents and a past
chair of the Toronto regional co-ordinating committee said too much
power is concentrated at the organization’s head office in Toronto and
the service group’s 4,000 members are being shut out of
decision-making. They called for greater corporate accountability and
transparency, particularly strict adherence to the organization’s
constitution, which requires the presentation of audited financial
statements prior to the annual general meeting  (AGM).

Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to
20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge
presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has
been taking.

A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel
said that “problems really started when we stopped getting financial
statements” in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when
slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation.

“Everything was manipulated,” he said.

“We want accountability. We are raising funds for B’nai Brith. How is
that money used? Where does it go? We don’t know.”

Gimpel suggested B’nai Brith might face a serious revolt of the lodges
if the organization is not more responsive – perhaps even a
“breakaway” by some. “They’re getting more and more fed up. There’s
been talk about it,” he said.

Morley Wolfe and Harvey Crestohl – both BBC past presidents – said
they want to see B’nai Brith revert to a more democratic,
representative and transparent organization.

Most BBC members don’t know or don’t care about the goings-on at
headquarters, Wolfe said. They are content to participate in lodge
activities and don’t realize the organization has changed, he added.

He discounted suggestions that lodges might break away. BBC “still
does good work,” he said.

What he is after is reform.

“I’m not trying to destroy the organization,” he said. “I’m trying to
get some accountability and transparency.”

Crestohl, who served as BBC president in the late 1970s and who has
been a lodge member for 51 years, said he and the other past
presidents would like to see more BBC members get involved in
organizational governance.

“We need a grassroots movement. We also need some leaders in the
community who give support to B’nai Brith to realize what’s going on
and exert their influence on those running things to revert to being a
democratically run organization,” he said.

Dimant stated that BBI’s appeals court considered all the criticisms
and on July 20, 2007, ruled that “all the accusations have been
debunked.”

“This kind of guerrilla war is baseless and has been judged to be
without merit, without basis and can only be harmful to the total
Jewish community,” he said.

Dimant said B’nai Brith Canada has adopted a new constitution and
rules of governance similar to those employed by many other Jewish
organizations.

In particular, its constitution mirrors that of BBI. The change was
designed to strengthen its governance practices, stated BBC national
president Gerry Weinstein.

BBC provided The CJN with a one-paragraph statement quoting the BBI
appeals court judgment, but it did not provide any supporting
documentation.

The court ruled: “Having carefully reviewed all the pleadings,
arguments and documentation put forward by the parties, the justices
of this honourable court do unanimously find that there is no basis to
the complaints on which the appellants rely. The amended constitution
of B’nai Brith Canada was duly passed at a legally constituted meeting
of the organization within its governing body’s full jurisdiction. No
irregularity in the procedures followed by B’nai Brith Canada has been
made out that would invoke the jurisdiction of this court.
Accordingly, the appeal is hereby dismissed.”

Dimant said despite the court’s finding, “you have some disgruntled
members, a handful, very small.”

He said some have ties to The CJN and can be said to have a personal
conflict of interest in seeking to undermine BBC’s Jewish Tribune
newspaper.

As for the others, “we are talking about some individuals who like to
think history was different at one point. I think lots of people want
to recapture youth and reflect on things that didn’t happen the way
they remembered.

“My concern is that BBC is a leading Jewish organization, high
profile, which has great government relations. Our League [for Human
Rights] is doing a superb job to battle anti-Semitism. It would seem
to me the energies of these people should be directed forward to help
the Jewish community,” he said.

For his part, Gimpel rejects the BBI court decision, calling it “a
travesty of justice.”

He speculated that three, perhaps four lodges accounting for 25 per
cent of BBC’s membership might eventually leave the organization.

“I give B’nai Brith two years if this carries on. Members are getting
fed up… The lodges will be gone.”

http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86


In other words at worst only 20% will leave. Jews argue it is well
documented in the Bible. One person has a complaint and no one else of
the Jewish faith is backing him.
 
  
>Gimpel has stated that"problems really started when we stopped 
>getting financial statements in advance of the AGMs"

>"Everything was manipulated."

>We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith.
>How is that money used?
>Where does it go?
>We don't know."

>Since Ken McVay has been outed as being involved in
>ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for
>fraudulent tax charity receipts from Bb, no wonder
>executives of BB are very concerned.

>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
>for JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com

>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
>WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case -
>no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
>Christkiller ZHIDS!!

The Romans killed the LORD not Jews. You Nazis don't even tithe.
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org

Does he still clean the toilets of Turks?
>IHR - www.ihr.org

>Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org

Under constant FBI surveillance and the SCPL as well.
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage

>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
>Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
>American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
>Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


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From: Caduceus@eris.io.com
Date: Sat,  5 Jan 2008 21:10:15 +0000 (UTC)

Canadian Jewish News
Battle Brewing at B'nai Brith Canada
By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter
Thursday, 06 December 2007

TORONTO - A nasty battle is brewing at B'nai Brith Canada (BBC) over
allegations the organization's head office has centralized too much
power and is unaccountable to members - despite a decision of B'nai
Brith International's (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have
addressed the issue.

At least three former senior officials of B'nai Brith Canada are
raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at
BBC's head office in Toronto. Dissatisfaction is so great there has
been talk of breaking away to form a new service organization, one of
the ex-officials said.

At the same time, a group calling themselves "concerned members of
B'nai Brith Canada" have launched a newsletter purporting to offer
"BBC news without the spin." Its May 10, 2007, inaugural issue states
the group's goal is to "end the current dysfunctional corporate
governance at BBC and restore it to its once prominent position as a
respected and admired organization both inside and outside the Jewish
community." The group claims to represent lodge past presidents, BBC
past presidents, members of BBC's board of governors and national
administrative board.

The group's concerns were first reported in the New York-based paper
the Forward.

BBC's head office, meanwhile, rejects outright any suggestion there is
anything amiss in the organization's corporate governance. Frank
Dimant, BBC's executive vice-president, said all institutional changes
have been passed lawfully and complaints regarding the organization's
corporate structure have been definitively rejected by B'nai Brith
International's (BBI) highest appeal court. BBI is BBC's parent
organization.

In interviews with The CJN, two former national presidents and a past
chair of the Toronto regional co-ordinating committee said too much
power is concentrated at the organization's head office in Toronto and
the service group's 4,000 members are being shut out of
decision-making. They called for greater corporate accountability and
transparency, particularly strict adherence to the organization's
constitution, which requires the presentation of audited financial
statements prior to the annual general meeting  (AGM).

Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to
20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge
presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has
been taking.

A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel
said that "problems really started when we stopped getting financial
statements" in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when
slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation.

"Everything was manipulated," he said.

"We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith. How is
that money used? Where does it go? We don't know."

[Since Ken McVay [The Nizkor Project] has been outed as being involved
in ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for fraudulent tax
charity receipts from BB, no wonder executives of BB are very concerned.
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
 "NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam"
 Message-ID: 
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
 "Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?"
 Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com> ]

Gimpel suggested B'nai Brith might face a serious revolt of the lodges
if the organization is not more responsive - perhaps even a
"breakaway" by some. "They're getting more and more fed up. There's
been talk about it," he said.

Morley Wolfe and Harvey Crestohl - both BBC past presidents - said
they want to see B'nai Brith revert to a more democratic,
representative and transparent organization.

Most BBC members don't know or don't care about the goings-on at
headquarters, Wolfe said. They are content to participate in lodge
activities and don't realize the organization has changed, he added.

He discounted suggestions that lodges might break away. BBC "still
does good work," he said.

What he is after is reform.

"I'm not trying to destroy the organization," he said. "I'm trying to
get some accountability and transparency."

Crestohl, who served as BBC president in the late 1970s and who has
been a lodge member for 51 years, said he and the other past
presidents would like to see more BBC members get involved in
organizational governance.

"We need a grassroots movement. We also need some leaders in the
community who give support to B'nai Brith to realize what's going on
and exert their influence on those running things to revert to being a
democratically run organization," he said.

Dimant stated that BBI's appeals court considered all the criticisms
and on July 20, 2007, ruled that "all the accusations have been
debunked."

"This kind of guerrilla war is baseless and has been judged to be
without merit, without basis and can only be harmful to the total
Jewish community," he said.

Dimant said B'nai Brith Canada has adopted a new constitution and
rules of governance similar to those employed by many other Jewish
organizations.

In particular, its constitution mirrors that of BBI. The change was
designed to strengthen its governance practices, stated BBC national
president Gerry Weinstein.

BBC provided The CJN with a one-paragraph statement quoting the BBI
appeals court judgment, but it did not provide any supporting
documentation.

The court ruled: "Having carefully reviewed all the pleadings,
arguments and documentation put forward by the parties, the justices
of this honourable court do unanimously find that there is no basis to
the complaints on which the appellants rely. The amended constitution
of B'nai Brith Canada was duly passed at a legally constituted meeting
of the organization within its governing body's full jurisdiction. No
irregularity in the procedures followed by B'nai Brith Canada has been
made out that would invoke the jurisdiction of this court.
Accordingly, the appeal is hereby dismissed."

Dimant said despite the court's finding, "you have some disgruntled
members, a handful, very small."

He said some have ties to The CJN and can be said to have a personal
conflict of interest in seeking to undermine BBC's Jewish Tribune
newspaper.

As for the others, "we are talking about some individuals who like to
think history was different at one point. I think lots of people want
to recapture youth and reflect on things that didn't happen the way
they remembered.

"My concern is that BBC is a leading Jewish organization, high
profile, which has great government relations. Our League [for Human
Rights] is doing a superb job to battle anti-Semitism. It would seem
to me the energies of these people should be directed forward to help
the Jewish community," he said.

For his part, Gimpel rejects the BBI court decision, calling it "a
travesty of justice."

He speculated that three, perhaps four lodges accounting for 25 per
cent of BBC's membership might eventually leave the organization.

"I give B'nai Brith two years if this carries on. Members are getting
fed up. The lodges will be gone."

http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86

http://tinyurl.com/3ceybq

http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:XWq_EgV_AFYJ:www.cjnews.com/
index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D13693%26Itemid%3D86
+%22Battle+brewing+at+B%27nai+Brith+Canada%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&lr=lang_en

     Kenneth McVay's American money laundering operation exposed;

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/7e8cbfce5f14ee8c?fwc=1
"The reason Canadian Kenneth McVay is distancing himself from the San Antonio
Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund? (It's illegal for one thing!)"
 Message-ID: <1o9ch2pv1bc148161ihkt26ngjteacj4p8@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e0028c076ac46510?fwc=1
"Kenneth N McVay is a Goy Mamzer Totally Owned by Jewry"
 Message-ID: <97ba28fa14b592c4ca0079950858babe@remailer.metacolo.com>


Even the past executives of BB did not know about the FRAUD INVOLVING PAYMENTS
TO KEN McVAY, and the issuing of fraudulent charitable donation receipts for 
payments to McVay's one man BUSINESS!!


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website 
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION 
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - 
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the 
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


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On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 15:00:05 GMT, Proposition 88
 wrote:

>With even the Soviets forced to admit that it was their ZYD NKVD who did the
>murders at KATYN, why are you apologising for them?

>Historians and experts proved it was NOT the Germans!

>Were you one of the killers, or perhaps your father, uncle or?


>On Sat, 8 Jul 2006 11:54:59 -0700, "Peter Wielki"  wrote:

>>Actually, in Katyn there were Russians and Ukraninians that did the crime, 
>>as far as I know.

>>But yeah, let's blame it on JEWS!!!  Germans did it too, right Frankie?


>>"Frank Arthur"  wrote in message 
>>news:ummva2ddrk9aik6jnqimp9mseb9b5ap4g1@4ax.com...
>>> True,Just Like Vinnitsa!!

>>> The filthy ZYDS can no longer lie about KATYN and try to blame the
>>> Germans.

>>> Even the Soviets had to admit the truth, and also about Vinnitsa.

>>> No wonder around the world more and more people are starting to really
>>> dislike the filthy ZHIDS!!

>>> Latest update follows:
>>> From: "Strider" 
>>> Newsgroups:soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.israel,soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.australian,soc.culture.yugoslavia
>>> Subject: Jewish Copmmissars murdered these Poles

>>> Our shame still lies in the Katyn forest
>>> By Kevin Myers
>>> (Filed: 27/04/2003)

>>> Today Poles all over the world will commemorate the 60th anniversary of 
>>> the discovery of the war crime which didn't occur. And the
>>> non-existence of this atrocity constituted democracy's most sordid 
>>> exercise in realpolitik of the entire 20th century. The Soviet Union captured 180,000
>>> Polish soldiers during its invasion of Poland in 1939. Most were herded 
>>> off to slave-camps in Siberia, but 22,000 officers were not. In April 1940, on
>>> Stalin's orders, each was bound with barbed wire and executed with a 
>>> single shot to the head.

>>> This was a colossal undertaking: the death toll was greater than that
>>> on the most calamitous day in British military history - the Somme, July 
>>> 1, 1916.

>>> More importantly, the massacres occurred before the German invasions
>>> of France and the Low Countries. And although hundreds of Jews in Poland 
>>> had been murdered, these were improvised butcheries, essentially unrelated to 
>>> The Final Solution, which had not yet begun.

>>> So the first systematic mass murder of defenceless innocents in the
>>> Second World War was not by the Nazis, but by the Soviet Union, just over 
>>> a year before the USSR became Britain's official best friend. This shouldn't
>>> surprise us: after all, it had been the Soviets, and not the Nazis, who
>>> invented industrialised murder. From the revolution on, they freely used 
>>> the word "exterminate" of their enemies. Hitler listened; and Hitler learned, 
>>> as dictators do. Moreover, the careful murder of so many officers from a 
>>> single narrow stratum of Polish society was truly proto-genocide: its intent was 
>>> to eliminate Polish identity by the extermination of all its perceived
>>> guardians.

>>> In 1943, via two sources - through a population census within the
>>> exiled Polish community living in the USSR, and from the Germans, who had
>>> discovered the site of one of the massacres, in the woods of Katyn, 
>>> outside Smolensk - the British discovered the fate of the Polish officers. A
>>> devastating report from the British ambassador to the Polish
>>> government-in-exile, Owen O'Malley, left no doubt about the matter.

>>> The British Government's public response was to dismiss the Nazi
>>> discoveries as propaganda and tell the Polish government-in-exile to 
>>> forget Katyn and to proceed with beating the real enemy, Germany.

>>> War is war, and in peace it is impossible to replicate the fevers and
>>> the terrors it induces. So no useful moral judgment can be made about
>>> those who decided in 1943 publicly to accept lies as fact, and to conceal 
>>> the truth as regrettable but necessary strategy. But it was statecraft at its 
>>> most pusillanimous to allow those lies to become a cornerstone of the 
>>> relationship between the Western allies and the Soviet Union.

>>> That is what happened when the three leaders - Churchill, Roosevelt
>>> and Stalin - met at Teheran in November 1943. Far from berating the Soviet
>>> Leader for the massacres, the two democratic leaders propitiated him, 
>>> awarding him the Polish land he had stolen even as he seized his future murder 
>>> victims.

>>> And when Stalin jested that they should settle the German problem once and 
>>> for all by killing 50,000 German officers, Churchill merely protested sulkily, 
>>> and Roosevelt light-heartedly suggested killing only 49,000.

>>> But nobody mentioned Katyn. How was this possible? For the massacre of
>>> the Poles was surely the secret subtext to this grisly exchange, and one 
>>> by which Stalin was taking the measure of his two confreres. All three knew 
>>> of the murders, and the bodyguard of lies around them: and silently, all 
>>> three - two of them abjectly, the third triumphantly - assented to those lies.

>>> Teheran was the true nadir of international diplomacy, morally far
>>> more ignoble and strategically far more catastrophic than either Munich 
>>> five years before or Yalta a year later. And the key to Teheran was Katyn: once
>>> Stalin had got away with that, he realised he could get away with almost
>>> anything.

>>> Moreover, the fiction of Katyn took root within the Foreign Office.
>>> There, nourished on complicit cowardice and malformed in the darkness of
>>> pathological guilt, the temporary tactic of 1943 was in time to turn into 
>>> the diseased plant of enduring policy. It even caused the Callaghan Government 
>>> in the 1970s vehemently to oppose the erection of a memorial in London to the
>>> victims of Katyn.

>>> Denial, in its purest psychiatric sense, of Katyn also infused much
>>> consideration of the 20th century: how else could Roy Jenkins have
>>> written a life of Churchill without once referring to Katyn, the Great Lie 
>>> of which the prime minister was prime mover? How else could so many 
>>> historians.

>>> Norman Davies aside - simply ignore the extraordinary Western
>>> collusion in covering up communist atrocities, and the profound impact 
>>> this must have had on Kremlin thinking?

>>> On Thursday the FCO publishes a report, British reactions to the Katyn
>>> Massacre, in a belated attempt at expiation for Britain's repeated
>>> cover-ups of this terrible affair. But it cannot undo the evil of the
>>> extermination of the Polish officer corps which, far from being the 
>>> subject of a war-crimes trial, was embraced and rewarded at Teheran; 
>>> and from that  city, the communism of Katyn was soon to march forth 
>>> and conquer half the world.

>>> My thanks to you for reposting this article.
>>> A brilliant truthful piece.
>>> Ed Kadach

>>> mahdi@alahram.com wrote:
>>>>>On Sun, 19 Jul 1998 22:06:50 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>>>>>On 1 May 1998 13:08:00 +0200, Irmin@nsm.htp.org wrote:

>>>>>American Dissident Voices Broadcast of April 25, 1998

>>>>>Katyn
>>>>>by Dr. William Pierce

>>>>>A background noise that seems never to go away is the constant
>>>>>whining and yammering of the Jews about how the world owes them a
>>>>>living because of their losses during the so-called "Holocaust."
>>>>>They do it, of course, because they make such a big profit on it.
>>>>>The latest flare-up of this Jewish play for a handout came more
>>>>>than a year ago when they began demanding that the Swiss pay them
>>>>>$7 billion, which "Holocaust" victims allegedly had stashed in
>>>>>numbered Swiss accounts before being hauled off to gas chambers
>>>>>during the Second World War.

>>>>>With a few "bought" Gentile politicians fronting for them, the
>>>>>foremost among these being New York's Senator Alphonse D'Amato,
>>>>>the Jews threatened Switzerland with a boycott by the U.S.
>>>>>government if their demands were not met. Instead of laughing in
>>>>>their faces, telling the Jews to go to hell, and gearing up for
>>>>>countermeasures against Israel and other Jewish interests if the
>>>>>Jews tried to proceed with a boycott, the Swiss politicians tried
>>>>>to placate the Jews by offering to buy themoff. The Jews took the
>>>>>Swiss response as a sign of weakness and escalated their demands.

>>>>>The average Swiss citizen seems to have a little more pride than
>>>>>Switzerland's elected officials, however, and resentment against
>>>>>the Jews' extortion efforts is building in Switzerland now to the
>>>>>point that some of that country's richest Jews are wearing
>>>>>bulletproof vests whenever they must go out in public.

>>>>>In general, however, this "Holocaust"-based extortion racket
>>>>>works quite well for the Jews, and they have expanded their
>>>>>demands for World War Two reparations to include a number of
>>>>>other countries besides Switzerland. They are even whining that
>>>>>the Vatican owes them because Pope Pius XII didn't do enough to
>>>>>save them from the Germans during the war. The Jews' brazenness
>>>>>in this whole business is quite breathtaking.

>>>>>Their brazenness, of course, is justified, because by and large
>>>>>they have been getting away with it. And they have been getting
>>>>>away with it because with their media control they have been able
>>>>>to distort the general public's whole perception of what happened
>>>>>during the Second World War. They have been able to portray
>>>>>themselves as innocent victims and just about everyone else as
>>>>>persecutors and aggressors, even the people who were fighting on
>>>>>the Jewish side against the Germans during the war. For example,
>>>>>they have done quite a bit of whining that after the Red Army
>>>>>drove the Germans from Poland, the Poles took the opportunity to
>>>>>lynch hundreds of Jews in 1945 and 1946: Jews whom the Germans
>>>>>somehow had failed to get rid of during their wartime occupation
>>>>>of Poland.

>>>>>Now, why would the Poles do something like that? Why would they
>>>>>lynch the poor Jews, who had been on their side during the war?
>>>>>If you learned about the war from watching Steven Spielberg
>>>>>propaganda films and other mass-media sources, you probably
>>>>>believe that it was because of religious anti-Semitism on the
>>>>>part of the Catholic Poles. Let me tell you the real reason why
>>>>>so many Poles hated Jews after the war. It's something the
>>>>>Jew-controlled media in America have tried hard to keep covered
>>>>>up. Let me tell you about what happened in the Katyn forest
>>>>>in 1940.

>>>>>In September 1939 Poland was invaded from the west by Germany and
>>>>>from the east by the Soviet Union. The Germans wanted back the
>>>>>territory in western Poland, including the city of Danzig, which
>>>>>had been taken from them at the end of the First World War. The
>>>>>Soviets wanted eastern Poland. The Germans and the Soviets
>>>>>divided Poland between them, with the boundary running roughly
>>>>>along the River Bug.

>>>>>Britain and France, both under strong Jewish pressure, declared
>>>>>war on Germany in September 1939, ostensibly because of Germany's
>>>>>invasion of Poland. They did not declare war on the Soviet Union,
>>>>>which also had invaded Poland. In the United States and in
>>>>>western Europe, where the Jews held a deathgrip on the mass
>>>>>media, a great deal of anti-German propaganda was based on the
>>>>>German grab for Polish territory -- much of which, of course,
>>>>>actually was historically German territory -- and nothing was
>>>>>said of the Soviet occupation and annexation of eastern Poland.

>>>>>The reason for this anti-German and pro-Soviet bias by the Jewish
>>>>>media was that the Jews were riding high in the Soviet Union as
>>>>>commissars and communist party bosses under Stalin, while in
>>>>>Germany Hitler had undertaken a program since 1933 of freeing
>>>>>Germany from all Jewish influence. Jews had been weeded out of
>>>>>the media, the law, the schools, and other areas of economic and
>>>>>cultural life in Germany. Before Hitler became chancellor in 1933
>>>>>the Jews had done in Germany what they do in every country where
>>>>>they gain a foothold: they had monopolized large sections of the
>>>>>mass media and certain professions and were doing their best to
>>>>>distort German culture, German society, and the German economy
>>>>>to suit themselves. Hitler put a stop to that, and two-thirds of
>>>>>the 1933 Jewish population of Germany had emigrated by the
>>>>>invasion of Poland in September 1939. So the Jews hated Germany
>>>>>and were determined to do whatever they could to destroy her.

>>>>>For his part, Hitler hoped to avoid war with Britain and France.
>>>>>He hoped that after his quick victory in western Poland he could
>>>>>make peace with Britain and France. He was determined, however,
>>>>>to stamp out communism wherever he encountered it. Not only did
>>>>>he hate communism on ideological grounds, but he had sworn to
>>>>>fight communism when the communists in Germany betrayed his
>>>>>country at the end of the First World War. Hitler also saw the
>>>>>Soviet Union as a threat to all of Europe, and he was determined
>>>>>to break the power of that country when he could, even though
>>>>>there was an uneasy non-aggression pact between Germany and the
>>>>>Soviet Union in 1939, at the time of their partition of Poland.

>>>>>In the spring of 1941 massive troop movements and other
>>>>>developments inside the Soviet Union convinced Hitler that Stalin
>>>>>was preparing to invade the west with the Red Army, and so in
>>>>>June 1941 Hitler made a preemptive strike. German forces smashed
>>>>>through the Red Army and made rapid advances, first through
>>>>>Soviet-occupied eastern Poland and then through Ukraine and into
>>>>>Russia.

>>>>>A year and a half later, in February 1943, German forces near
>>>>>Smolensk, in western Russia, investigated reports they heard from
>>>>>Russian civilians to the effect that a large number of prisoners
>>>>>had been murdered by the Soviet secret police in the area nearly
>>>>>three years earlier. The German investigators were led by local
>>>>>Russians to a series of mounds in a wooded area known locally as
>>>>>Katyn Forest, about 10 miles west of Smolensk. The forest is
>>>>>named for a village, Katyn, which it surrounds. The forest had
>>>>>been privately owned prior to the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917,
>>>>>but after the communist takeover of Russia the area had been
>>>>>confiscated by the government and part of the forest had been
>>>>>turned over to the NKVD, the Soviet equivalent of the American
>>>>>FBI.

>>>>>The Germans began digging in the mounds in the Katyn forest and
>>>>>made a horrible discovery. They found corpse after corpse, each
>>>>>with its hands bound behind its back and a bullet hole in the
>>>>>base of its skull. They continued their excavations for more than
>>>>>a month, and eventually uncovered more than 4,000 corpses. Other
>>>>>bodies may have remained buried in other mounds, but the Germans
>>>>>had no time to dig up the whole forest. Instead they called in
>>>>>the International Red Cross and representatives of various
>>>>>neutral countries to examine their findings. They also brought in
>>>>>groups of Allied prisoners of war, including Americans, from
>>>>>prison camps in Germany to view the graves in the Katyn forest.
>>>>>They gave these international inspectors complete freedom to
>>>>>examine the exhumed bodies, permitted doctors among them to
>>>>>conduct autopsies, even allowed them to dig up other bodies from
>>>>>one of the mounds which had not been completely excavated. The
>>>>>Germans asked only that the inspectors report back truthfully to
>>>>>their own governments about their observations. And in fact, most
>>>>>of them did.

>>>>>What they reported was that the bodies were those of Polish
>>>>>military officers, along with a number of civilian cultural and
>>>>>business leaders and intellectuals -- scientists, writers, poets
>>>>>-- who had been in the portion of Poland occupied by the Soviet
>>>>>Union in September 1939. Altogether the Soviet secret police had
>>>>>rounded up some 15,000 Polish leaders in 1939 -- including nearly
>>>>>half of the entire Polish officer's corps, the half that had had
>>>>>the misfortune of being in eastern Poland at the time -- and put
>>>>>them in three concentration camps in Russia: at Starobelsk,
>>>>>Kozelsk, and Ostashkov. All of the bodies unearthed in the
>>>>>Katyn forest were of Polish leaders who had been confined at one
>>>>>of these camps: Starobelsk.

>>>>>Rounding up a country's leaders and killing them was standard
>>>>>practice for the communists. The theory was that the leaders were
>>>>>bourgeois oppressors of the working class and deserved to die. As
>>>>>egalitarians the communists did not regard the Polish officers
>>>>>and intellectuals as inherently better or more valuable human
>>>>>material than the average Polish criminal or welfare bum; the
>>>>>officers had simply used their class advantage to gain a better
>>>>>life-style for themselves. Of course, no one really believed that
>>>>>theory except the criminals and welfare bums and other resentful
>>>>>losers and ne'er-do-wells who made up the natural communist
>>>>>constituency. As a practical matter, however, killing all the
>>>>>leaders and potential leaders of a conquered people made them
>>>>>easier to govern. That's what the Marxists had done in Russia,
>>>>>Ukraine, and the Baltic countries.

>>>>>In the case of the Poles there was a bit of a diplomatic problem,
>>>>>though. The Poles supported the war Britain and France had
>>>>>declared against Germany, purportedly on their behalf, because
>>>>>they viewed that as their one hope for getting back at least the
>>>>>western part of their country. They were not happy about the
>>>>>Russians taking the eastern part of Poland, but the Russians at
>>>>>least were fellow Slavs. The thing to do was get rid of the
>>>>>Germans first and then worry about the Russians. This Polish
>>>>>strategy suited Stalin fine. But it made it desirable for him to
>>>>>avoid alienating the Poles any more than necessary. When Polish
>>>>>exiles asked about their imprisoned leaders in late 1939 and
>>>>>early 1940, the Soviet government promised that they would be
>>>>>released shortly. Meanwhile, the decision had been made to kill
>>>>>all of them. And so in April 1940 the Polish leaders were taken
>>>>>from the three camps where they had been imprisoned, trucked off
>>>>>to various liquidation sites, and murdered. The ones who had been
>>>>>imprisoned at Starobelsk all went to the NKVD area of the Katyn
>>>>>forest. After the war some of the NKVD executioners were
>>>>>interviewed in Israel and described how they had carried out the
>>>>>killings.

>>> ISRAEL REFUSED TO PROSECUTE THESE ZHID MURDERERS!!

>>>>>The Poles were driven up to the burial pits in long NKVD prison
>>>>>trucks known as "black ravens." They were pulled from the trucks
>>>>>one at a time by NKVD guards. Each Polish prisoner had his hands
>>>>>bound behind his back and then was dragged to the edge of a pit.
>>>>>There he was held by two NKVD men while a third fired a pistol
>>>>>bullet into the back of his head. Some of the officers had had
>>>>>their coats pulled over their heads to keep them from seeing what
>>>>>was happening before they were shot. Some struggled and were
>>>>>bayonetted by NKVD guards before being shot and thrown into the
>>>>>pit. When all of the officers from Starobelsk had been killed,
>>>>>some 4,400 of them, the Katyn forest burial pits were covered
>>>>>with dirt and pine trees were planted on them. The locations of
>>>>>the mass graves of the prisoners from the camps at Kozelsk and
>>>>>Ostashkov remain unknown, but none of the 15,000 Polish officers
>>>>>and intellectuals rounded up by the NKVD in September 1939 was
>>>>>seen alive after April 1940.

>>>>>The Red Cross representatives and the Allied prisoners the
>>>>>Germans brought in to examine the mass graves in the Katyn forest
>>>>>understood after their examination not only who had been killed;
>>>>>they also understood who had killed them. This was apparent not
>>>>>only from the medical estimates of the length of time the bodies
>>>>>had been buried, but also from documentary evidence on the
>>>>>bodies. Diaries, news clippings, letters, and other personal
>>>>>papers removed from the clothing of the victims all told the same
>>>>>story: the latest dates on any of these papers were from
>>>>>mid-April 1940. The Polish leaders had been killed in April 1940,
>>>>>when they were prisoners of the Soviet Union and when the Katyn
>>>>>region was under Soviet control. And this is what they reported
>>>>>back to their governments.

>>>>>So what do you think happened? Were the British and American
>>>>>governments horrified to discover that their "gallant Soviet
>>>>>ally," as the Soviet Union was referred to by the mass media, was
>>>>>a mass murderer? Did the British government, which had gone to
>>>>>war against Germany under the pretext of defending Poland, decide
>>>>>that it had made a mistake? Did anyone condemn the Soviet Union
>>>>>for this act of genocide against the Poles?

>>>>>Of course not! The Allied governments ordered their people who
>>>>>had inspected the Katyn site to keep their mouths shut, and the
>>>>>Jewish media immediately began announcing that the Germans had
>>>>>done it. A mass murder of Polish officers and intellectuals by
>>>>>the Nazis had been discovered in the Katyn forest, the New York
>>>>>Times and the rest of the Jewish media shrieked. Poor Poles!
>>>>>Wicked Germans! The war must go on to free the poor Poles and
>>>>>punish the wicked Germans. And the war did go on, killing
>>>>>millions of more Germans, British, Americans, and other
>>>>>Europeans. And the Germans were indeed punished. The Poles, of
>>>>>course, were not freed. Instead they were turned over to the
>>>>>Reds, who had butchered their leaders in the Katyn forest, and
>>>>>made to suffer under communist rule for half a century.

>>>>>The war went on after the German discovery of the mass graves in
>>>>>the Katyn forest, because its purpose from the beginning was not
>>>>>to free Poland but to destroy Germany, which had dared to free
>>>>>itself from the Jews. Roosevelt understood this. Churchill
>>>>>understood this. But the American and British people didn't
>>>>>understand it, of course, because they were lied to by the Jewish
>>>>>media and by their own governments, who in 1943 as in 1998 have
>>>>>done whatever has been politically expedient. And what has been
>>>>>politically expedient has been what the Jewish media bosses have
>>>>>decided.

>>>>>The lies about Katyn were maintained by the media for some years
>>>>>after the end of the war, because these lies meshed nicely with
>>>>>the "Holocaust" story which was making so much money for the
>>>>>Jews. Nowadays, of course, the truth about the Katyn murders is
>>>>>generally accepted by historians everywhere. You can go into
>>>>>almost any large library and read about it and even see the
>>>>>gruesome photographs that the Germans took of the Polish bodies
>>>>>they dug up. One of several authoritative books on the subject is
>>>>>J.K. Zawodny's Death in the Forest: the Story of the Katyn
>>>>>Forest Massacre, published in 1962 by the University of Notre
>>>>>Dame Press. None of this is publicized a la Steven Spielberg, of
>>>>>course, for the illumination of American television audiences. It
>>>>>still might undermine the Jews' "Holocaust" racket.

>>>>>In 1945 and 1946, although the deceived citizens of the western
>>>>>world didn't know the truth about Katyn, Polish patriots did. The
>>>>>word had gotten back to the Polish prisoners in German camps from
>>>>>the Poles the Germans had taken to examine the graves. After the
>>>>>war, when these Polish prisoners were freed, the word spread to
>>>>>other Poles. They knew that it was the communists, not the Nazis,
>>>>>who had murdered their leaders, who had beheaded their nation.

>>>>>And they knew who was behind communism, from the Jew Karl Marx,
>>>>>who had started the whole business, up to the Jewish commissars
>>>>>who lorded it over them in Soviet-occupied Poland. They knew who
>>>>>had welcomed their Soviet conquerors and then collaborated with
>>>>>those conquerors. And so it is hardly surprising that in 1945 and
>>>>>1946 a few Polish patriots organized lynchings of Jews in Poland,
>>>>>before the Reds had a chance to clamp down on all of Poland and
>>>>>suppress any further expressions of anti-communist or anti-Jewish
>>>>>feeling.

>>>>>No, the Polish dislike of Jews/ZHIDS  isn't surprising. What is
>>>>>surprising is that so few patriots in America and Britain have
>>>>>expressed their outrage against the Jews, not only for what they
>>>>>did to the Poles during and after the war, but for what they have
>>>>>done to us: lying to us and using us to wage their wars for them.
>>>>>If patriots study the Katyn story and take its lesson to heart,
>>>>>they will understand why they cannot trust either the mass media
>>>>>or any government which dances to the tune played by the media.
>>>>>Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill were as much liars and
>>>>>traitors as Bill Clinton and Tony Blair.

>>>>>Anyway, you might remember Katyn the next time you hear the Jews
>>>>>or some of their bought politicians whining about how much gold
>>>>>was stolen from them by the Swiss or how badly the Poles and the
>>>>>Germans treated them during the Second World War.

>>>>>The text above is based on a broadcast of the American Dissident
>>>>>Voices radio program sponsored by National Vanguard Books. To
>>>>>receive weekly ADV transcripts, mail: ADVlist@ListServe.com
>>>>>Write "subscribe" as the subject of your message.


First,let us kill all the lawyers! - W.Shakespeare
First, we get rid of all the politicians! - Mao tse Dung
Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled-as fertiliser!!
Me
For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website 
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION 
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - 
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the 
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com, 
or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com,
or KenMcVay@vex.net

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In many states in the USA, prisoners must PAY FOR THEIR ROOM & BOARD IN JAIL.
Which is as it should be.

As for paying them, why?
Let them first pay restitution - first to the victims, then to the state.

Criminals are imprisoned, to pay for their crimes.
Make them also pay for their maintenance, both in cash, and by hard work!

On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:22:31 -0700 (PDT), Pete L 
wrote:

>>I see today that the Govt vetoed an increase in prisoners' pay. I
>>heard some chap on the radio bleating on about how important it is for
>>the prisoners to be able to phone their loved ones etc. Well, sorry to
>>be too hard hearted, but my answer is - tough! If you choose to become
>>a criminal and get caught you must face hardships. There are many
>>countries in the world where food is not provided for prisoners and
>>their loved ones have to bring food in for them or else they would
>>starve. I suspect that most people believe prison should be a
>>punishment and a deterrent. I suppose I would grudgingly accept we
>>have to feed prisoners but I can see no reason why they should be paid
>>out of my taxes.



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HOLODOMOR = ZYD/NKVD HOLOCAUST ON UKRAINIANS! Message: 
Probably the best analysis of what happened that I have read to date.

Trident

IS THERE A "SMOKING GUN" FOR THE HOLODOMOR?

PRESENTATION: By Professor Roman Serbyn Universit=E9 du Qu=E9bec =E0
Montr=E9al, Canada
The Ukrainian Holodomor and the Denial of Genocides
International Conference, Federigo Argentieri, Ph.D., Organizer
Guarini Institute, John Cabot University
Rome, Italy, Friday, November 09, 2007
Published by the Action Ukraine Report #889, Article 5
Kyiv, Ukraine, Monday, November 19, 2007

In his seminal study on genocide, Leo Kuper observed that "governments
hardly declare and document genocidal plans in the manner of the
Nazis"
[1]. Nevertheless, since modern states cannot function without large
bureaucracies and elaborate communication systems, tell-tale records
inevitably survive.

When the CPSU lost power and the Soviet empire fell apart, it was
Revealed that an elaborate paper trail of the 1932-33 famine and the Soviet
authorities' involvement in it had been preserved in party and state
archives. These documents are being slowly declassified, examined and
published[2]. Historians can now give us a fairly accurate account of
the catastrophe and ascertain the responsibility of Stalin and his
collaborators.

As a result, scholars who previously hesitated to recognize the
Genocidal character of Stalin's forced starvation of Ukrainian farmers, have
reexamined the question and readjusted their interpretations. In his
latest book, Nicolas Werth comes to the conclusion that thanks to recent
studies based on the new documents, it is now "legitimate to qualify as
genocide the cluster of actions undertaken by the Stalinist regime to punish
the
Ukrainian peasantry by famine and terror"[3].

In this paper I analyze some of the main documents that provide
smoking-gun evidence of genocide, in line with the definition of the crime
given
in the UN Convention of 1948: "acts committed with intent to destroy, in
whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such".

The key criteria in the Convention are proof of "intent" and
Identification eligible "groups". Soviet documents corroborate the accusation
against
Stalin and his closest collaborators for deliberately exterminating
Millions of Ukrainian farmers, and show that the perpetrators targeted them as
Ukrainians.

Furthermore these and other documents reveal that the genocide was not
Just against Ukrainian farmers, the focus of the attack was the Ukrainian
Nation in all its component parts and on all its territories within the
Soviet Union.

The locus of this crime was thus the Ukrainian SSR, the predominantly
Ukrainian Kuban, and the other regions of the RSFSR with sizeable
Ukrainian populations. The simultaneous decimation of Ukrainian national
elites,
especially academic, cultural and political leaders, was an integral part of
the destruction of the Ukrainian nation.

Stalin did not intend to kill all Ukrainians (nor is such an intent
Required by the Convention); his motive was to break the backbone of the
nation
By executing a sizeable percentage of the people and reducing the rest to
servile obedience, to transform them into manageable cogs of the state
mechanism. Stalin's means of destruction were varied: famine, shootings, 
exhausting forced labor.

The UN Convention does not require the establishment of motives for
genocide, but determining the reasons for the act gives an insight
into the rationale which led to crime and thus help us comprehend the
perpetrator's intent. Stalin's measures against the Ukrainians were predicated
on
his political ambitions, two of which provided the motives for the
eventual genocide[4].

The first was to extend socialism beyond the borders of the USSR. He
realized that the Bolsheviks' initial attempt to export their revolution
into Europe failed primarily because of the weakness of the Red Army.
To resume Lenin's unfinished task, Stalin needed a powerful armed force,
Backed by modern heavy industry. Industrialization had to be financed by
Exporting natural resources, especially grain, which had to be extorted from
the
farmers at the lowest cost to the state.

War communism had shown that door-to-door requisition was costly,
inefficient and politically dangerous. After the revolution, poor
farmers appropriated and divided up the land of rich landlords. As a result,
farmers lived better, ate more but sold less to the state. Marketable grain
(sold outside the village) in tsarist times was provided by the large farms
Owned by landlords and kulaks. Now new large estates had to be set up in the
Form of sovkhozy and kolkhozy. These would give the state easy access to
grain, produced by the newly enslaved peasants.

The immediate goal was not the increase of grain production (which
could be expected to fall as a result of peasant opposition), but of the
"marketable grain" to be delivered to the state. Since the main producers of
grain
Were Ukrainians farmers, who had no tradition of the Russian semi-communal
obshchina organization, they could be expected to offer stiff resistance to
forced collectivization and confiscation of the fruits of their labor.

Stalin's second ambition was to bring a permanent solution to the
National question, especially its crucial Ukrainian component. The 1926 census
Pegged the Ukrainian population at 31 million, of the Union's 147 million: 23
million in Ukraine, and 8 million in the rest of the USSR, mainly along the
Ukrainian border.

Ukrainian national revival triggered by the Russian revolution forced
Lenin to give the reconquered republic nominal autonomy in the form of a
"sovereign" republic within a Potemkin-style Soviet federation.
Subsequent policy of Ukrainization, or the local application of a general
principle of korenizatsiia (nativization), allowed Ukrainians to add real
national
content to the pretentiously misleading form of "soviet republic"[5].

The Ukrainization of education, communications and administration, not
Only in Ukraine but also in the Ukrainian regions of the RSFSR, the
de-Russification of urban centers by the influx of Ukrainian farmers,
the demands on Moscow to transfer to the republic adjacent territories
with Ukrainian population, the shifting of cultural orientation from Moscow
and to the West - all these pressures on the imperial centre could not be
ignored by the Kremlin.

 Stalin, Lenin's "magnificent Georgian" and foremost expert on the
nationalities question, understood the dangers of active nation-
building in Ukraine, in the best of times. Collectivization would only
aggravate
the situation. Over 85 % of ethnic Ukrainians were farmers and their
sudden disenfranchisement could throw the countryside into such turmoil that
not only grain production would be catastrophically reduced, but also
farmers could gain the support of the national elites in a united rebellion of
the whole republic to the spoliation of their country by Moscow.

Similar, if smaller, unrest could be expected in the Kuban' and other
ethnically Ukrainian regions of the RSFSR. In the mid-1920s Stalin had
written that the peasant question was "the basis, the quintessence, of
the national question", that "the peasantry constitutes the main army of
the national movement" and that "there is no powerful national movement
without the peasant army"[6]. The stability and even the integrity of the
Soviet empire would be threatened.

Genocide does not happen spontaneously. The targeted group is first
identified, vilified and intimidated, then it is discredited in the
eyes of the rest of the population, and only when it has been sufficiently
isolated, is it submitted to total or partial extermination. In the summer of
1929 the GPU (political police) "uncovered" a nationalist conspiracy, headed
by
prominent Ukrainian intellectuals and conducting anti-Soviet work in
villages and regional centers.

Over 700 people were arrested for, among other things, "anti-Soviet
Activity in the villages and district centers" and a show trial was held in
March 1930, appropriately staged in a Kharkiv theatre. 45 members of this
Mythical Association for the Liberation of Ukraine (SVU) were sentenced to
death or long prison terms.

Arrests and trials of other mostly fictitious groups followed:
Ukrainian National Center, Ukrainian Military Organization, etc.[7] The
condemned were former members of the former Ukrainian national governments, 
Ukrainian armed forces, Ukrainian political parties, and prominent people in
fields of education, culture and the arts.

The purpose was to terrorize the Ukrainian elites into submission and
lethargy, and thus deprive the peasants of leadership on the national
level.
It should be noted that, in connection with the less severe famine in
Russia, no parallel attack took place against Russian national elites
or the Russian culture.

Stalin's war against the peasants began in earnest towards the end of
1929.
In a two-pronged attack he ordered to "eliminate the dekulakization as a
class" and to collectivize the middle and poor peasants. Divided into
three categories, the kulaks were dispossessed and  the most dangerous were
shot.

The others were deported to the wilds of northern RSFSR, transferred
To distant regions in Ukraine, or given strips of poor land outside the
Kolkhoz near which they lived. The intention was not only to provide kolkhozes
With the confiscated land, cattle and machinery, but also to deprive the
Peasants of the more qualified leadership for their opposition to the
authorities.

During the winter of 1929-1930, 90 thousand Ukrainian households were
dekulakized, and a smaller wave more or less finished the job a year
later.
In 1934 Kossior, party boss of Ukraine, reported that 200 thousand
farms had been dekulakized in Ukraine. Out of this number of about one million
(5 members per family), several thousand were deported to the northern
parts of the RSFSR and lost to the Ukrainian nation.

Collectivization went in unison with dekulakization: a major push was
Given in early 1930. By 10 March 1930 Ukrainian kolhosps integrated 64.4% of
farmsteads with 70.9% of arable land. The operation was accomplished
with the help of some 50,000 activists, sent from Russian and Ukrainian
urban centers, with special powers to organize, punish, and terrorize.

Many poor peasants, paid for the service with confiscated goods,
participated in expropriating their richer neighbors, but many others
sympathized with the victims. Peasant rebellion swept Ukraine: in
January-March 1930, 3,190 uprisings with over 950 thousand
Participants confronted the authorities.[8]

Hundreds of fliers were picked up by the authorities with such slogans
As "Free Ukraine from Moscow rule", "Time to rise against Moscow yoke"
And others. National and peasant factors were coming together. Stalin
sounded a temporary retreat and in October of that year collectivization was
down to 29 % of households and 34 % of arable land. But the reprieve was brief
and a year later (October 1931) the figures rose to 68 % (for households)
and 72 % for arable land, with a much higher percentage in the grain-producing
steppe regions.

The effect of Stalin's revolution on the countryside was disastrous,
especially in Ukraine and the Kuban. From 1929 to 1932 the evolution
can be summarized in these four curt phrases: production down; state
procurement up; grain export up; peasant food consumption down.

Farmers' opposition to collectivization, mismanagement of collective
Farms by incompetent administrators, neglect and slaughter of farm animals
seriously hindered farming and brought down its production. Yet,
enforced obligatory state procurement increased, and in 1931, 42 % of
Ukraine's
grain harvest was turned over to the state.[9]

Kolhosps delayed or completely failed to pay out stipends for
"workday" (trudodni), and the their members had to rely on their meager and
insufficient individual plots of land and a few domestic animals for
subsistence. Undernourishment became generalized. But Stalin had
reached his goal.

Grain exports rose from below one million tons in 1929, to: 5,832,000
Tons in 1930/31 and 4,786,000 tons in 1931/32. It should be kept in mind
that one million tons could feed four to five million people for one year.
After two years of resistance and unequal struggle with the Communist
authorities, the Ukrainian elites were cowed and most of the collective and 
independent farms despoiled of all their reserves. The republic was on the 
brink of a major catastrophe.

On 26 April 1932, Stanislav Kossior, the General secretary of the
Communist Party of Ukraine, informed Stalin about "individual
Cases and even individual villages that are starving" but blamed it on
"local bungling, errors, particularly in the case of kolkhozes." And,
Lest he displease his Kremlin masters, their lieutenant in Ukraine
dismissed the tragedy with the affirmation that "all talk of famine must be
categorically discarded."[10]

Yet famine there was and on 10 June H. Petrovsky, the head of the
Ukrainian state and V. Chubar, the head of the Ukrainian government, sent
Separate letters to notify Molotov and Stalin of the appalling conditions in
the Ukrainian countryside, and to ask for help.

Chubar admitted that cases of starvation among independent and
Collective farmers had already been signaled in December and January and 
that by "March-April there were dozens and hundreds of malnourished, starving,
and swollen people and people starving to death accumulate in every
village; children and orphans abandoned by their parents appeared".

Raions and oblasts organized aid from internal resources, but were
Obliged to do this "under conditions of acute food shortage, especially
bread".
[11]
Noteworthy additional remark: "Petliurite and other anti-Soviet moods
increased."

Petrovsky's letter was even more to the point. Having just returned
>from an inspection of the countryside, he realized the catastrophic situation
of the farming population. He visited many villages and everywhere saw
multitudes of people, mainly poor and middle peasants, starving, subsisting on
surrogates.

Peasants scolded him, posed embarrassing question, reproached him,
Saying "why did you create an artificial famine, [...] why did you take away
The seed material - this did not happen even  under the old regime, why is
It necessary for Ukrainians to travel for bread [...] to non-grain
Producing territories?".

Echoing Chubar, Petrovsky reported that "because of the famine, mass
Thefts are taking place in the villages." Pointing out that grain harvest is
Still six week off, and famine will only intensify, Petrovsky ask:
"shouldn't assistance be rendered to the Ukrainian countryside in the amount
of
two or, at the very least, one and a half million poods of grain?" And he
predicted that if help is not given starvation would drive peasants to pick
unripe grain and destroy much of it.

Petrovsky's letter paints a bleak picture of the forthcoming harvest.
Since the better grain had been seized by the state, seeds of poorer quality
Were sown and scattered mores thinly. The young crops are good and the
Fields well weeded but the grain is sparse. Petrovsky was also struck by the
Large amount of unsown land. Aware of all these problems, the farmers
Complained to Petrovsky that the new grain procurements would be even more
difficult to meet than last year's. "And this may very well be so", agrees
Petrovsky.

Finally Petrovsky draws attention to the exodus of Ukrainian farmers.
They are forced to seek food beyond the republic's borders, at "the Dno
station, in the Central-Black Earth Oblast', in Belarus, and in Northern
Caucasus", where grain is more readily available, and at much lower prices.

When Petrovsky suggested that farmers band together for these
purchases, he learned that the Commissariat of Transport has drastically
reduced 
the sale of train tickets to peasants. Bewildered Ukrainian peasants needled
Petrovsky: "Why are they banning trips for grain?"

If the two Ukrainian leaders believed their pleas and warnings of
turmoil in the Ukrainian countryside would soften Moscow's position, they were
mistaken. Their effect on Stalin, Kaganovich and Molotov was just the
opposite. Writing from Moscow to Sochi, where Stalin was vacationing,
Kaganovich criticized both Ukrainian leaders, even though he admitted
That some aid would have to be given to Ukraine, and asked Stalin to decide
On the amount. Stalin's response was more brutal and more ominous of
things to come.

He condemned the hypocrisy of the two leaders, who only wanted to get
"new millions of poods[12] of grain from Moscow" and "a reduction in the
plan for grain procurement". Ukrainians must mobilize their own forces and
resources for already "Ukraine has been given more than she should get".[13]
Nevertheless, on 16 June the Politburo considered Ukraine's plea and
Granted about 8,500 tons[14], a paltry amount in comparison with the million
and a half poods requested by Petrovsky.

Politburo's niggardly "largesse" must have provoked Stalin's ire, for
in a letter to Kaganovich, Molotov and the Politburo he came back with
harsh criticism of past errors and new instructions for the coming harvest.
The Gensec blamed "mechanical equalization", which did not take into
account the ability of the kolkhozes to deliver grain, and as a result of
which,
"fertile districts in Ukraine found themselves in a state of
Impoverishment and famine, despite a fairly good harvest."[15]

This is the only known acknowledgement of the Ukrainian famine by
Stalin. He blamed regional authorities for being out of touch with the
countryside and allowing kolkhozniks to travel around the entire European 
part of the USSR demoralize "our farms with their complaints and whining."[16]

Stalin proposed the calling of a top level conference on the
organization of grain procurement and its unconditional fulfillment, and
insisted 
that personal responsibility for grain procurement be delegated to the
first secretaries of the Ukraine, the Northern Caucasus, and the other grain
producing regions. "Personal responsibility" for "unconditional fulfillment"
imposed from the top along the administrative vertikal became the
watchwords of the 1932/33 grain procurement campaign, which would result in
the
genocidal famine.

On 21 June a telegram signed by Stalin and Molotov instructed Kharkiv to
carry out "at any cost" the July-September plan for grain delivery.
Two days later, Moscow answered Ukrainian Politburo's plea for 600,000 
poods of grain with a terse resolution: "bar any additional grain deliveries
to
Ukraine."[17]

The III Conference of KP(b)U (6-10 July 1932) was devoted to the
Upcoming harvest and grain procurement. Stalin sent Molotov and Kaganovich to
The meeting  "to ensure genuinely Bolshevik decisions". Molotov informed
The audience that Moscow had lowered Ukraine's quota but was adamant that
The plan be carried out in full.[18]

Declarations from regional leaders that the farmers were starving, that much
land lay fallow, and that 100 to 200 m.poods of grain would be lost during
harvesting did not bend the resolve of Moscow's envoys.[19] The conference
adopted a resolution to carry out the plan of grain delivery "in full
and unconditionally".[20]

It was largely in response to the tense situation in Ukraine[21], and in
anticipation of new troubles in that republic that Stalin came up with
his infamous decree, dubbed by the farmers "the 5 ears of corn law".
Writing on 20 July to Kaganovich and Molotov, the Gensec complains of 
Widespread theft by "dekulakized kulaks" and others, and proposes to write 
a law, which would make theft of property belonging to collective farms equal 
to similar crimes against state property, and "punishable by a minimum of ten
years'
imprisonment, and as a rule, by death".

"All active agitators against the new collective-farm system" and
"profiteers and resellers of goods" writes Stalin, should be removed
And sent to concentration camps.[22] He also wants stricter controls over
The limited kolkhoz trade allowed by a 6 May 1932 law (kolkhozes allowed
Sell their surplus after 15 January 1933, after fulfilling the state
Procurement plan), made more liberal on 20 May 1932.[23]

A follow-up letter provides ideological explanation: in the same way
That capitalism could not triumph without first making "private property
Sacred property", socialism will not finish off capitalism "unless it
Declares public property (belonging to cooperatives, collective farms or the
state) to be sacred and inviolable".[24]

Returning to the topic on 26 July, Stalin insists on formal legality
of the proposed operations: "we must act on the basis of law ('the peasant
loves legality'), and not merely in accordance with the practice of the
OGPU, although it is clear that the OGPU's role here will not only not
Diminish but, on the contrary, will be strengthened and 'ennobled' (the OGPU
Agencies will operate 'on a lawful basis' rather than 'high-handedly')".[25]

The joint Party-State decree "On the Protection of the Property of
State Enterprises, Collective Farms and Cooperatives, and on the
Consolidation of Public (Socialist) Property" was issued on 7 August 1932. 
It became the main legal instrument used by the Soviet authorities to condemn 
millions of farmers to slow death by starvation. It repeated Stalin's
declarations
that all public property is "sacred and inviolable" and that individuals
attempting to take possession of public property should be considered
"enemies of the people".[26]

All collective farm property, whether in the field or in storage was
Decreed equal to that of state property and theft was made punishable by
execution, which could be reduced to 10-year imprisonment only under 
mitigating circumstances. Advocating withdrawal from the kolkhoz became
tantamount to treason and was punished with three to five years imprisonment 
in concentration camps. No amnesty could be applied in any of these
cases.

The decree on State property was applicable on the whole Soviet
Territory but, as Stalin's letter to Kaganovich shows, it was primarily meant
For Ukraine. Stalin thought the law was "good" and would "soon have an
impact", and ordered a draft of directives from the C.C to the party, judicial
and punitive organizations.[27] The Gensec then addressed the Ukrainian
problem.
The passage is highly revealing:

"The most important thing right now is Ukraine. Ukrainian affairs have hit
rock bottom. Things are bad with regard to the party. There is talk
that in two regions of Ukraine (it seems in the Kiev and Dnepropetrovsk
regions) about 50 raion party committees have spoken out against the
grain-procurements plan, deeming it unrealistic. It is said that the
situation in other raion party committees is no better. [...] This is
not a party but a parliament, [...]

Instead of leading the raions, Kossior kept maneuvering between the
directives of the CC VKP and the demands of the raion party committees
[...]
Things are bad with the soviets. Chubar is no leader. Things are bad
With the GPU. Redens is not up to leading the fight against the
counterrevolution
[...]. [underlined and doubly underlined in original - R.S.]"

Then Stalin brandishes the specter of Ukrainian separatism: "If we don't
undertake at once to straighten out the situation in Ukraine, we may
lose Ukraine." He reminds Kaganovich that Pilsudski and his agents are
underestimated by Redens, and Kossior. He expressed utter contempt for
the whole KP(b)U, composed of 500,000 members ("ha-ha", snickers Stalin),
harboring Pilsudski's agents and "quite a lot (yes a lot!) of rotten
elements, conscious and unconscious Petliurists".

Thinking undoubtedly of Ukraine's negative reaction to the destructive
impact the just-passed property laws will have, Stalin warns: "The
moment things get worse, these [party] elements  will waste no time opening a
front inside (and outside) the party, against the party."

Frustrated by the fact that "the Ukrainian leadership does not see
These dangers", Stalin proposes to replace Kossior with Kaganovich and
Redens with Balitsky, and eventually Chubar with Kaganovich. In this way
Stalin
Intends to transform "Ukraine as quickly as possible into a real fortress of
The USSR, a genuinely exemplary republic."

The task is urgent and calls for immediate action, for without "these and
similar measures (the economic and political strengthening of Ukraine,
above all its border raions, etc.), I repeat, we may lose Ukraine."[28]
Kaganovich agrees, of course, and accuses Ukrainian party of creating a
certain
solidarity and "a rotten sense of mutual responsibility", not only in the
middle echelons of the party, but also among its leadership.[29]

Stalin's exchange of letters with Kaganovich reveals the ambiance in
Which the policy of starvation will be implemented. The overall objective
was to maintain a high level of grain procurement. To assure this, all
challenge outside and inside the republic had to be eliminated, regardless of
the cost. Stalin's raising of the specter of Pilsudski and Petliura agents
running loose in Ukraine and infiltrating the Soviet party and state
machinery was nothing more than a scare tactic and a rallying call.

He was well aware that by the summer of 1932, the weak Polish network
And the few local collaborators had been rounded up by the GPU, which also
arrested real and imaginary followers of Petliura whom Stalin had
eliminated by assassination in 1926. Poland may have had some illusions about
a
Ukrainian insurrection in 1929-1930, but by 1932, the Poles realized
That the starving population was in no shape to revolt.

The Soviet-Polish nonaggression treaty signed on 25 July 1932 was
Ample proof of the changing relations between the two neighbors.[30] The
Pilsudski-Petliura scarecrow will continue to enjoy popularity in
Soviet propaganda. While there was no serious threat from the Poles or the
Ukrainian nationalists, a national insurrection could become a reality if
the expected famine (implied in Stalin's phrase "the moment things get
worse") could bind together the threatened middle cadres of the KP(b)U
with the surviving peasantry. To prevent this eventuality the KP(b)U had to
be purged and kept under close Moscow surveillance.

Stalin maintained that the 1932 harvest was good; historians today are
More skeptical but consider it adequate to cover Soviet Union's internal
needs.
With the state reserves from previous year, there were enough supplies
To feed every citizen of the Soviet Union.

Famine was brought about by the exorbitant amount of grain and other
agricultural products taken from the Ukrainian peasants, and the way
they were extracted. Ukraine's plan was excessive, and in spite of the
protests from Kharkiv and three successive reductions, it remained so to the
end.

Still, Ukraine delivered about a quarter of a billion poods of grain, or
over 90% of its procurement quota. [31] In addition it handed over
large quantities of meat, vegetables and other produce. Stalin insisted that
state procurement have absolute priority. Following a CC VKP(b) directive, a
KP(b)U resolution of 18 November reminded that "complete fulfillment
of the procurement plan by collective farms and the MTS constitutes their
primary obligation [...], to which all the other duties of the collective farm
must be subordinated, including the duty to set up all sorts of funds: seed
fund, forage and food supplies".[32]

Stalin was satisfied that he was achieving his goal. At a high-level
Party meeting, held on 27 November 1932, he gloated: "The party has
succeeded in replacing the 500-600 million poods of marketable grain, procured
during the period of individual peasant holdings by our present ability to
collect 1,200-1,400 m.p. of grain. It is hardly necessary to prove that
without this leap forward the country would have a famine [sic-RS], we would
not be
able to support our industry, we would not be able to feed the workers and
the Red Army."[33]

The allusion to the famine, or rather to freedom from one, was an
Obvious lie, and the reference to the feeding of the workers and the Red Army
- an overstatement; but then, Stalin's concern was not the feeding his
Subjectsb but the financing of Soviet industrialization with grain exports.

Obedience to Moscow's orders was assured in two ways: a) frequently
Repeated delegations to Ukraine and the North Caucasus Territory of Molotov
Kaganovich and other high-ranking leaders to supervise the local
authorities, and b) party discipline enforced from Moscow down the
administrative structure. At the end of October 1932, two commissions
were sent, one to Ukraine headed by Molotov, and the other to North
Caucasus Territory headed by Kaganovich.

Stalin's emissaries supervised party meetings and forced them to pass
resolutions on grain procurements, party discipline, stricter
application of the 7 August property laws, the establishment of "black lists" 
of collective farms in arrears with grain deliveries, imposition of fines,
etc. 
They also instigated purges in party organizations and administrative
structures.
Kuban' was particularly hit with the expulsion of 43 % of the 25,000
Party members, including 358 out of 716 party secretaries.[34]

In Ukraine, during November and first five days of December, the OGPU
arrested 1,230 people, including 340 heads of kolhospy while 327
Communists were brought before the courts for sabotaging state
procurements.[35]
In the 18 November resolution quoted above, the Ukrainian CC reminded the
directors
of sovkhoz of their "personal responsibility as party members and civil
servants for the fulfillment of the grain procurement".

"Personal responsibility" for the execution of instructions was a
Constant refrain in messages coming from above and became an important 
Means for forcing recalcitrant cadres to carry out the Ukrainian genocide.

Dekulakization and deportation continued, on a smaller scale and were
Mostly of political and punitive nature. Arrests, beatings, and cruelty of
All sorts abounded as before, only now the victims were weaker and less
Capable of resistance. Kolkhozes, villages and individual farmers in arrears
On state procurement were put on "black lists", lost access to state-run
stores, and could not buy such essentials as matches, kerosene, salt.

Fines amounted to a year and a quarter's worth of meat tax, without
Freeing the debtor from the unfulfilled grain procurement. "Activists" - the
City workers and their komnezam helpers searched farmers' houses and yards,
looking for the hidden grain.

There is no way of knowing what portion of the hidden grain was found
by the flying brigades of activists, but official reports state that in Kuban
they found 345,000 poods of grain in November, while searches in Ukraine
>from 1 December 1932 to 25 January 1933 yielded 1.7 million poods, in 17,000
hiding places.[36] What grain was found, was confiscated; if nothing was
discovered, they took whatever edibles were seen, leaving the family
to starve.

Peasants who could find some old religious medals or other mementos
Made of precious metals could trek to the city and exchange them at the
Torgsins (stores for foreigners) for vouchers, and then exchange them for
food.

Hardier peasants would flee their villages and seek salvation in urban
centers or in neighboring Belarus and RSFSR, where food was available.
Accounts of Ukrainian peasants overloading trains, filling stations
And wandering about Russian and Belarusian towns and countryside abound.

National and peasant questions became inextricably intertwined in
Stalin's decree of 14 December 1932, issued under the banal title "On Grain
Procurement in Ukraine, Northern Caucasus and the Western Oblast"[37].

Ukrainization was blamed for problems in grain deliveries and
Exemplary punishment was prescribed for sabotage in grain procurement: 5-10
years of concentration camp for a number of "party traitors" arrested in the
Orikhiv raion of Dnipropetrovs'k oblast of Ukraine, and deportation to the
North of the Poltavska stanytsia of Kuban in the RSFSR.

The decree made the party and government chiefs in the three grain
Producing areas personally responsible for the completion of grain procurement
By January 1933. Ukrainianization presently is carried out in Ukraine,
"without meticulous selection of the Bolshevik cadre", had allowed
bourgeois-nationalists and Petliurites to join party and state
institutions and set up their cells and organizations.

Absence of "revolutionary vigilance" by local party organizations let
"counterrevolutionary elements" become directors, accountants,
storekeepers, foremen in collective farms, members of village soviets. Similar
accusation was brought against Northern Caucasus, with supporters of the
Kuban'
Rada figuring in place of Petliurites. This gave nationalists the
opportunity to sabotage harvest and sowing campaigns and organize other
counterrevolutionary activities.

Party and Soviet authorities in Ukraine and Northern Caucasus were
Ordered to extirpate these counterrevolutionary elements, execute them or
Deport them to concentration camps, including "saboteurs with party
Membership cards in their pockets".

The verdict against Ukrainization came in two parts. In Ukraine it was
Not formally prohibited, but Stalin insisted that it resume its primary
vocation, that of promoting "correct Bolshevik implementation of
Lenin's national policy", which in fact meant integration and assimilation.

Ukrainian authorities were instructed to "expel Petliurite and other
bourgeois-nationalist elements from party and government
organizations", and "meticulously select and recruit Ukrainian Bolshevik
cadre". The
signal was thus given for rapid curtailment of Ukrainization and return to a
more
sophisticated policy of Russification.[38]

Ukrainians of Northern Caucasus fared worse. "Non-Bolshevik
'Ukrainianization', which affected nearly half of the raions in the
Northern Caucasus," and which was declared to be "at variance with the
cultural
interests of the population", was totally discontinued and replaced
with Russification.

The use of the Ukrainian language was banned in public offices of
Local administration, cooperative societies, and schools. The printing of
newspapers and magazines in the Ukrainized raions of Northern Caucasus
was to switch immediately to Russian, and preparation were to begin
immediately for the transfer in the fall of all Ukrainian schools into
Russian.

The whole Poltava stanytsia was ordered to be deported and resettled
With demobilized Russian Red Army soldiers, who would receive the abandoned
land, buildings, equipment, and cattle. In fact, 2,158 families with 9,187
members were sent out before 27 December[39] and resettled a month later with
1,826 demobilized soldiers.[40]

Together with Medvedivs'ka and Umans'ka, the three Cossack stanytsias
Saw 45,000 persons deported to the North. On 15 December, Molotov and
Stalin signed a similar ban on Ukrainization, for the rest of the previously
Ukrainized Soviet regions in the RSFSR.

Stalin's anti-Ukrainization decree reveals the extent to which the dictator
was ready to go, in sacrificing the Ukrainian nation on the altar of
great-power ambitions. There is little doubt that the ban on Ukrainization
was a sop to Russian chauvinism, especially in ethnically mixed
regions outside the Ukrainian SSR. National and social repressions reinforced
one another, even if neither was acknowledged openly.

For the next several months after the condemnation of the abuses of
Ukrainization and the Ukrainian sabotage of grain procurements, the
Ukrainian countryside passed through some of the worst moments in its
history. The litany of repressive measures is endless. 82 raions were
deprived of manufactured goods for not fulfilling their quotas of
grain deliveries.

On 19 December, Stalin orders Kaganovich and Postishev back to Ukraine
To help Kosior, Chubar and Khataevich carry out the procurement plan. On
24 December, collective farms are ordered to deliver all grain in
Fulfillment of the plan, including grain put aside for seed and food. Direct
orders to increase repressive measures, arrests and deportations increase. A
real reign of terror seizes the republic and the Kuban.

On 22 January 1933 Stalin struck another crippling blow against the
Starving Ukrainian grain growers. The new secret decree, drafted by the Gensec
himself, is perhaps the best available proof of the dictator's
genocidal intent against the Ukrainian nation. Sent to Ukraine, Belarus and
the
neighboring regions of RSFSR[41], the document calls attention to the
unrestrained exodus of peasants from the Kuban' and Ukraine to the
near-by regions of Russia and Belarus.

Central authorities are said to have no doubt that these migrants, who
pretend to search for food, are, in fact, Socialist-Revolutionaries and
agents of Poland, sent to agitate, "through the peasants", in the
northern parts of the USSR, against the kolkhoz system and the Soviet power.
Addressees are reminded that a similar movement took place the
Previous year, but the party, soviet and police authorities of Ukraine did
nothing to stop it. It must not be allowed to happen this year.

Stalin then orders the party, soviet and the repressive organs of the
Northern Caucasus and Ukraine to prevent the exodus of their peasants
To other regions of the USSR and directs them to close border crossings
between Ukraine and the Northern Caucasus.

The GPU of the Russian oblast's adjacent to the quarantined Ukrainian
And Northern Caucasus regions, and the transport section of the OGPU, are
instructed to arrest all peasants from Ukraine and North Caucasus, who
have managed to leave their territory, and, after segregating the
counter-revolutionary elements, return the others to their villages.

The next day, the Politburo of the CC KP(b)U adopted a resolution to
Carry out Moscow's orders and forwarded the directive, along with addition
instructions, for implementation by the appropriate Ukrainian
authorities.[42]

The Ukrainian branch of the OGPU was ordered to instruct all railway
stations not to sell tickets to peasants with destinations beyond the
Ukrainian borders, without formal travel permission from the raion executive
Committee or a certificate of employment from construction or industrial
enterprises.

Oblasts were told to take "resolute measures" to prevent massive
Departure of their peasants, carefully check the work of agents recruiting
Peasants for work outside Ukraine, and to urge kolhospnyky and individual
farmers not to depart without permission for other raions because they would
be
arrested there.

On 25 January, B. Sheboldaev, the party boss of the North Caucasus
Territory, issued a similar order, adding instructions on the
employment of internal forces and border troupes and the setting up of
filtration
points.[43]

Like the anti-Ukrainization decree of 14 December 1932, the 22 January
1933 directive, which closed the borders to the famished Ukrainian peasants
Was not the beginning but the culmination of processes that had started
Many moths before. Petrovsky had complained to Stalin, back in June 1932,
About the ban on train ticket for Ukrainian peasants who wanted to obtain
provisions in Russia.

Evdokimov's telegram from Rostov-on-Don, which Iagoda prepared for
Stalin's attention on 23 January 1933, details the elaborate measures taken
Since November to prevent the flight of farmers from the Northern Caucasus
Territory. Among these were roadblocks set up on the main arteries of
peasant migration.

Transport authorities had arrested 11,774 persons and another 7,534
Were incarcerated by other organs. In the same dossier, Balitsky's report
>from 22 January informed of massive exodus of peasants from Ukraine since
December.[44]

Departures were registered in 74 raions, 721 villages and 228
kolhosps. In all, 31,693 persons left: 20,129 from Kharkiv oblast', 6,576 from
the
Kyiv oblast, 3,447 from Odessa oblast, and 1,541 from Chernihiv. Of these
migrants about one third were collective farmers and two thirds
individual farmers; 128 were activists. A check at the railway junction
stations
in the Kharkiv oblast revealed a great demand for long-distance tickets: in
January 1933 16,500 such tickets were sold in Lozova station and 15,000 - in
Sumy.

In the beginning of January 1933, the GPU began to apprehend agitators
And organizers of these migrations and arrested over 500 of them. [45] As
A direct result of Stalin's borders decree of 22 January 1933, 219,460
Persons were arrested in the first six weeks of its application; some were
sent to the Goulag, others punished in other ways, while 186,588 were sent
back to their villages to face the famine.[46]

In the middle of March 1933, Kosior wrote unperturbedly to the Kremlin
That "the famine still hasn't taught many kolhospnyky a lesson".[47] In his
report from Kharkiv, dated 31 May 1933, the Italian consul general
prognosticated on the devastation of the country: "The current
disaster will bring about a preponderantly Russian colonization of Ukraine. In
a
future time, perhaps very soon, one will no longer be able to speak of a
Ukraine, or of a Ukrainian people, and thus not even of a Ukrainian problem,
Because Ukraine will have become a de facto Russian region."[48]

There can be little doubt today that the famine was not only used by the
Communist party for political purposes, but that it was actually created and
directed by Stalin and his henchmen for that purpose. The regime's
ultimate objective was to transform the backward empire into an industrial
giant and a military superpower that could export socialism abroad.

To achieve this, Stalin needed great quantities of marketable grain,
Which was to be extracted from the peasants "at any price" to the producers
but at minimal price to the state. The most expedient way was to herd the
peasants into collective farms, subject them to a direct control from the
Kremlin, and in this way ensure maximum grain deliveries to the state.

The Kremlin knew that the peasants would resist and that the
imposition of its will would result in the loss of millions of human lives,
but that
was of no concern for masters of a well-populated empire. Stalin's project
required a homogenous and docile population. Revived Ukrainian
particularism, taking advantage of the indigenization program,
reinforced national unity at the expense of cohesion of the new "fatherland of
world proletariat".

The two sources of resistance to Stalin's plans (national and social)
Became embodied in the same group - the Ukrainian farmers. Stalin decided to
sacrifice a considerable part of this group in order to eliminate the
opposition to his projects and to frighten the rest of the Ukrainian
nation into accepting the role of cogs (as he liked to call them) of the
great socialist mechanism.

The Stalin-Kaganovich discussion of the Petrovsy and Chubar letters
(June-July 1932), the "five ears of corn" law (7 August, 1932), the
condemnation of Ukrainization (14 December 1932), and the closing of
internal Soviet borders on starving Ukrainian peasants, each provide
smoking gun revelations about the genocide against the Ukrainian nation. But a
multitude of other documents now emerging from the secret archives
help us get a rounded understanding of the gigantic crime and the immeasurable
suffering of its victims.
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FOOTNOTES:
[1] Leo Kuper, Genocide. Its Politic Use in the Twentieth Century.
(Penguin,
1981), p. 35.
[2] Valerii Vasiliev & Yuri Shapoval (eds.), Komandyry velykoho
holodu.
Poizdky V. Molotova i L. Kahanovycha v Ukrainu i na Pivnichnyi Kavkaz
1932-1933 rr. Kyiv, 2001; I. Zelenin et al (eds.), Tragediia sovetskoi
derevni. Kollektivizatsiia i rasskulachivanie. Tom 3. Moskva, 2001;
Stalin I Kaganovich Perepiska 1931-1936 gg. Moskva, 2001; 
Rozsekrechena pam'iat': Holodomor 1932-1933 rokiv v Ukraini v dokumentakh 
GPU-NKVD. Kyiv,
2007;
Ruslan Pyrih (ed.), Holodomor 1932-1933 rokiv v Ukraini: dokumenty i
materialy. Kyiv, 2007.

[3] Nicolas Werth, La terreur et le d=E9sarroi: Staline et son syst=E8me.
Paris, Perrin, 2007.

[4] Discussed more fully in my article, "The Ukrainian Famine of
1932-1933 and the United Nations Convention on Genocide", in Taras Hunczak &
Roman Serbyn. Famine in Ukraine 1932-1933: Genocide by Other Means.
(Forthcoming.)

[5] For a thorough discussion of Ukrainization and its problems see
James Mace, Communism and the dilemmas of national liberation: national
Communism in Soviet Ukraine, 1918-1933. Cambride, Mass., 1983. 
See also Terry Martin, The Affirmative Action Empire. Nations and Nationalism 
in the Soviet Union, 1929-1939. Ithaca & London, 2001.

[6] J. V. Stalin, "Concerning the National Question in Yugoslavia"
Works.
Vol. 7. Moscow, 1954. Pp. 71-72.

[7] Rozsekrechena pam'iat'. Pp. 75-81.

[8] Valerii Vasil'ev & Linn Viola. Kolektyvizatsiia i selians'kyi opir
Na Ukraini (lystopad 1929-berezen' 1930). Vinnytsia, 1997. P. 91.
-
[9] Nicolas Werth, La terreur et le d=E9sarroi: Staline et son syst=E8me.
Paris, Perrin, 2007.  P. 118.

[10] Holod 1932-1933 rokiv na Ukraini:ochyma istorykiv, movoiu
dokumentiv. Kyiv, 1990. P. 148.

[11] All quotations and references to the two letters are taken from
Komandyry velykoho holodu. Pp.206-215.

[12] One pood =3D 16.36 kg; 1 ton - 61.36 poods.

[13] The Stalin-Kaganovich Correspondence 1931-1936. New Haven&
London, 2003. P. 136.

[14] For the allocation of the food aid, see Holod 1932-1933 rokiv na
Ukraini. Kyiv, 1990. P. 183, 187-188.

[15] The Stalin-Kaganovich Correspondence. P. 138 (Underlined by
Stalin).


[16] The Stalin-Kaganovich Correspondence. P. 138-139..

[17] Holod. 1990. P. 183 (doc. 63), P. 190 (doc. 68).

[18] The original plan of 410 million poods (6.7 m.t.) was lowered
twice to 356 and 274.8 million poods (5.8 m.t.; 4.5 m.t. ) but 16 November was
raised to 5.8 m.t.  Rozsekrechena pam'iat'. p. 84.

[19] For a detailed account of the deliberations see Komandyry
Velykoho holodu. Pp. 152-164

[20] See part of the resolution in Holod1932-1933 rokiv na Ukraini.
Kyiv, 1990. P. 194-198

[21] A secret OGPU report from around 20 July 1932 stated that "as for
anti-Soviet manifestations, Ukraine occupies first place". "From 1
January to 1 July 1932, 118 counterrevolutionary kulak organizations were
discovered, counting 2.479 members. In addition, along the lines of
national counterrevolution we have unmasked 35 groups with 562 members."
Tragedia, p.

421. Another secret OGPU report, dated 5 August, contains a section
"National counterrevolution (U[krainian]SSR)" which relates the
Liquidation of 8 nationalist groups, two of which consisted of former members 
Of the outlawed UKP (Ukrainian Communist Party). These people are said to
have a leftist program and conduct systematic activity among members of the
KP(b)U, arguing that the Soviet authorities are suppressing the Ukrainian
culture. In their platform, claims the report, they declare war on the Soviet
regime and Polish fascism, while in fact keeping links abroad and carrying
out directives of the Second Department of of the Polish General Staff in
Ukraine. Ibid.  p. 443.

[22] The Stalin-Kaganovich Correspondence. P. 164-165.

[23] S. Kulchytsky, Tsina "Velykoho perelomu". Kyiv, 1990. P. 296. On
23 July Stalin sent a telegram to Kaganovich demanding the restoration
And enforcement of last year's ban on transporting private bread supplies
By rail or water. Tragedia, p. 428.

[24] The Stalin-Kaganovich Correspondence. P. 166.

[25] The Stalin-Kaganovich Correspondence. P. 169.

[26] Tragedia, p. 453-454.

[27] Stalin i Kaganovich Perepiska. Pp. 273-275; The Stalin-Kaganovich
Correspondence. P. 179-181. A follow-up secret "Instruction on the
Application of the TsIK and SNK SSSR of 7 August 1932 About the
Safeguarding of State Property", signed by the Chairman and the Prosecutor of
the
Supreme Court of the USSR and the Vice-Charman of the OGPU, was sent out on 16
September to all republican and oblast authorities. Tragedia. P.
477-479.

[28] On 12 August Stalin sends a note to Kaganovich asking him to keep
secret for the moment the plan regarding Ukraine sent in the preceding
letter. Tragedia. P. 276. To stiffen Kosior's resolve, in January
1933, Stalin sent him the more resolute Postyshev as his second in command;
Redens was replaced Balitsky in February 1933.

[29] Letter of 16 Augus 1932. Stalin i Kaganovich Perepiska. P.
283-284;
Stalin-Kaganovich Correspondence. P. 183-184.

[30] Timoty Snyder, Sketches from a Secret War. New Haven, Yale
University Press. P. 104.

[31] Kosior spoke of 255 m.p. at the January plenum of the CC KP(b)U.
Holod1932-1933 rokiv na Ukraini. P. 352. 
Davies and Wheatcroft give
3,584,000 tons, or 219 millon poods, P. 478. 
Other authors give similar figures.

[32] Holod 1932-1932 rokiv na Ukraini. P. 253.

[33] Tragedia. P. 559.

[34] Davies & Wheatcroft, The Years of Hunger. P. 178.

[35] Komandyry velykoho holodu. P. 50.

[36] Komandyry velykoho holodu. P. 49; Kulchytsky, Holod 1932-1933 v
Ukraini iak henotsyd. Kyiv, 2005. P. 98

[37] Tragedia, Pp. 575-577; also in Holod 1932-1933 rokiv na Ukraini.
Pp 291-194.

[38] The Russification of Ukraine attracted the attention of the
Italian consulate in Kharkiv. "In government offices the Russian language is
Once again being used, in correspondence as well as in verbal dealings
Between employees." See the "Italian Diplomatic and Consular Dispatches",
Report to Congress. Commission on the Ukraine Famine. Washington, 1988. P.
446.

[39] G.G. Iagoda report to Stalin, 29 December 1932. Lubianka. Stalin
I VChK-GPU-OGPU-NKVD. Moskva 2003. P. 386.

[40] Nicolaas Werth, Le pouvoir sovi=E9tique et la paysannerie dans les
rapports de la police politique (1930-1934). Rapport du 27 f=E9vrier
1933.
/http:/www.ihtp.cnrs.fr/dossier_soviet_paysans/sommaire.html/

[41] Tragedia sovetskoi derevni. P. 634-635. The first English
Translation of the document appeared in Terry Martin, The Affirmative Action
Empire. Nations and Nationalism in the Soviet Union, 1923-1939. Ithaca and
London, 2001. P.p. 306-307.

[42] Volodymyr Serhiichuk. Iak nas moryly holodom. Kyiv, 2003. PP
156-158.

[43] Tragedia, p. 636-637.Sheboldaev added more precisions on the
Filtration points three days later. Ibid. P. 638.

[44] Lubianka. Stalin i VChK-GPU-OGPU-NKVD. Moskva 2003.P. 394.

[45] Lubianka. P. 392-393.

[46] N.A. Ivnitskii, Kollektivizatsiia i raskulachivanie (nachala 30-
Kh godov). Moscow, 1994. P. 204.

[47] Tragedia. P. 657.

[48] "Italian Diplomatic and Consular Dispatches. Op. cit. P. 427.

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HOLODOMOR = ZYD/NKVD HOLOCAUST ON UKRAINIANS! Message: 
Probably the best analysis of what happened that I have read to date.

Trident

IS THERE A "SMOKING GUN" FOR THE HOLODOMOR?

PRESENTATION: By Professor Roman Serbyn Universit=E9 du Qu=E9bec =E0
Montr=E9al, Canada
The Ukrainian Holodomor and the Denial of Genocides
International Conference, Federigo Argentieri, Ph.D., Organizer
Guarini Institute, John Cabot University
Rome, Italy, Friday, November 09, 2007
Published by the Action Ukraine Report #889, Article 5
Kyiv, Ukraine, Monday, November 19, 2007

In his seminal study on genocide, Leo Kuper observed that "governments
hardly declare and document genocidal plans in the manner of the
Nazis"
[1]. Nevertheless, since modern states cannot function without large
bureaucracies and elaborate communication systems, tell-tale records
inevitably survive.

When the CPSU lost power and the Soviet empire fell apart, it was
Revealed that an elaborate paper trail of the 1932-33 famine and the Soviet
authorities' involvement in it had been preserved in party and state
archives. These documents are being slowly declassified, examined and
published[2]. Historians can now give us a fairly accurate account of
the catastrophe and ascertain the responsibility of Stalin and his
collaborators.

As a result, scholars who previously hesitated to recognize the
Genocidal character of Stalin's forced starvation of Ukrainian farmers, have
reexamined the question and readjusted their interpretations. In his
latest book, Nicolas Werth comes to the conclusion that thanks to recent
studies based on the new documents, it is now "legitimate to qualify as
genocide the cluster of actions undertaken by the Stalinist regime to punish
the
Ukrainian peasantry by famine and terror"[3].

In this paper I analyze some of the main documents that provide
smoking-gun evidence of genocide, in line with the definition of the crime
given
in the UN Convention of 1948: "acts committed with intent to destroy, in
whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such".

The key criteria in the Convention are proof of "intent" and
Identification eligible "groups". Soviet documents corroborate the accusation
against
Stalin and his closest collaborators for deliberately exterminating
Millions of Ukrainian farmers, and show that the perpetrators targeted them as
Ukrainians.

Furthermore these and other documents reveal that the genocide was not
Just against Ukrainian farmers, the focus of the attack was the Ukrainian
Nation in all its component parts and on all its territories within the
Soviet Union.

The locus of this crime was thus the Ukrainian SSR, the predominantly
Ukrainian Kuban, and the other regions of the RSFSR with sizeable
Ukrainian populations. The simultaneous decimation of Ukrainian national
elites,
especially academic, cultural and political leaders, was an integral part of
the destruction of the Ukrainian nation.

Stalin did not intend to kill all Ukrainians (nor is such an intent
Required by the Convention); his motive was to break the backbone of the
nation
By executing a sizeable percentage of the people and reducing the rest to
servile obedience, to transform them into manageable cogs of the state
mechanism. Stalin's means of destruction were varied: famine, shootings, 
exhausting forced labor.

The UN Convention does not require the establishment of motives for
genocide, but determining the reasons for the act gives an insight
into the rationale which led to crime and thus help us comprehend the
perpetrator's intent. Stalin's measures against the Ukrainians were predicated
on
his political ambitions, two of which provided the motives for the
eventual genocide[4].

The first was to extend socialism beyond the borders of the USSR. He
realized that the Bolsheviks' initial attempt to export their revolution
into Europe failed primarily because of the weakness of the Red Army.
To resume Lenin's unfinished task, Stalin needed a powerful armed force,
Backed by modern heavy industry. Industrialization had to be financed by
Exporting natural resources, especially grain, which had to be extorted from
the
farmers at the lowest cost to the state.

War communism had shown that door-to-door requisition was costly,
inefficient and politically dangerous. After the revolution, poor
farmers appropriated and divided up the land of rich landlords. As a result,
farmers lived better, ate more but sold less to the state. Marketable grain
(sold outside the village) in tsarist times was provided by the large farms
Owned by landlords and kulaks. Now new large estates had to be set up in the
Form of sovkhozy and kolkhozy. These would give the state easy access to
grain, produced by the newly enslaved peasants.

The immediate goal was not the increase of grain production (which
could be expected to fall as a result of peasant opposition), but of the
"marketable grain" to be delivered to the state. Since the main producers of
grain
Were Ukrainians farmers, who had no tradition of the Russian semi-communal
obshchina organization, they could be expected to offer stiff resistance to
forced collectivization and confiscation of the fruits of their labor.

Stalin's second ambition was to bring a permanent solution to the
National question, especially its crucial Ukrainian component. The 1926 census
Pegged the Ukrainian population at 31 million, of the Union's 147 million: 23
million in Ukraine, and 8 million in the rest of the USSR, mainly along the
Ukrainian border.

Ukrainian national revival triggered by the Russian revolution forced
Lenin to give the reconquered republic nominal autonomy in the form of a
"sovereign" republic within a Potemkin-style Soviet federation.
Subsequent policy of Ukrainization, or the local application of a general
principle of korenizatsiia (nativization), allowed Ukrainians to add real
national
content to the pretentiously misleading form of "soviet republic"[5].

The Ukrainization of education, communications and administration, not
Only in Ukraine but also in the Ukrainian regions of the RSFSR, the
de-Russification of urban centers by the influx of Ukrainian farmers,
the demands on Moscow to transfer to the republic adjacent territories
with Ukrainian population, the shifting of cultural orientation from Moscow
and to the West - all these pressures on the imperial centre could not be
ignored by the Kremlin.

 Stalin, Lenin's "magnificent Georgian" and foremost expert on the
nationalities question, understood the dangers of active nation-
building in Ukraine, in the best of times. Collectivization would only
aggravate
the situation. Over 85 % of ethnic Ukrainians were farmers and their
sudden disenfranchisement could throw the countryside into such turmoil that
not only grain production would be catastrophically reduced, but also
farmers could gain the support of the national elites in a united rebellion of
the whole republic to the spoliation of their country by Moscow.

Similar, if smaller, unrest could be expected in the Kuban' and other
ethnically Ukrainian regions of the RSFSR. In the mid-1920s Stalin had
written that the peasant question was "the basis, the quintessence, of
the national question", that "the peasantry constitutes the main army of
the national movement" and that "there is no powerful national movement
without the peasant army"[6]. The stability and even the integrity of the
Soviet empire would be threatened.

Genocide does not happen spontaneously. The targeted group is first
identified, vilified and intimidated, then it is discredited in the
eyes of the rest of the population, and only when it has been sufficiently
isolated, is it submitted to total or partial extermination. In the summer of
1929 the GPU (political police) "uncovered" a nationalist conspiracy, headed
by
prominent Ukrainian intellectuals and conducting anti-Soviet work in
villages and regional centers.

Over 700 people were arrested for, among other things, "anti-Soviet
Activity in the villages and district centers" and a show trial was held in
March 1930, appropriately staged in a Kharkiv theatre. 45 members of this
Mythical Association for the Liberation of Ukraine (SVU) were sentenced to
death or long prison terms.

Arrests and trials of other mostly fictitious groups followed:
Ukrainian National Center, Ukrainian Military Organization, etc.[7] The
condemned were former members of the former Ukrainian national governments, 
Ukrainian armed forces, Ukrainian political parties, and prominent people in
fields of education, culture and the arts.

The purpose was to terrorize the Ukrainian elites into submission and
lethargy, and thus deprive the peasants of leadership on the national
level.
It should be noted that, in connection with the less severe famine in
Russia, no parallel attack took place against Russian national elites
or the Russian culture.

Stalin's war against the peasants began in earnest towards the end of
1929.
In a two-pronged attack he ordered to "eliminate the dekulakization as a
class" and to collectivize the middle and poor peasants. Divided into
three categories, the kulaks were dispossessed and  the most dangerous were
shot.

The others were deported to the wilds of northern RSFSR, transferred
To distant regions in Ukraine, or given strips of poor land outside the
Kolkhoz near which they lived. The intention was not only to provide kolkhozes
With the confiscated land, cattle and machinery, but also to deprive the
Peasants of the more qualified leadership for their opposition to the
authorities.

During the winter of 1929-1930, 90 thousand Ukrainian households were
dekulakized, and a smaller wave more or less finished the job a year
later.
In 1934 Kossior, party boss of Ukraine, reported that 200 thousand
farms had been dekulakized in Ukraine. Out of this number of about one million
(5 members per family), several thousand were deported to the northern
parts of the RSFSR and lost to the Ukrainian nation.

Collectivization went in unison with dekulakization: a major push was
Given in early 1930. By 10 March 1930 Ukrainian kolhosps integrated 64.4% of
farmsteads with 70.9% of arable land. The operation was accomplished
with the help of some 50,000 activists, sent from Russian and Ukrainian
urban centers, with special powers to organize, punish, and terrorize.

Many poor peasants, paid for the service with confiscated goods,
participated in expropriating their richer neighbors, but many others
sympathized with the victims. Peasant rebellion swept Ukraine: in
January-March 1930, 3,190 uprisings with over 950 thousand
Participants confronted the authorities.[8]

Hundreds of fliers were picked up by the authorities with such slogans
As "Free Ukraine from Moscow rule", "Time to rise against Moscow yoke"
And others. National and peasant factors were coming together. Stalin
sounded a temporary retreat and in October of that year collectivization was
down to 29 % of households and 34 % of arable land. But the reprieve was brief
and a year later (October 1931) the figures rose to 68 % (for households)
and 72 % for arable land, with a much higher percentage in the grain-producing
steppe regions.

The effect of Stalin's revolution on the countryside was disastrous,
especially in Ukraine and the Kuban. From 1929 to 1932 the evolution
can be summarized in these four curt phrases: production down; state
procurement up; grain export up; peasant food consumption down.

Farmers' opposition to collectivization, mismanagement of collective
Farms by incompetent administrators, neglect and slaughter of farm animals
seriously hindered farming and brought down its production. Yet,
enforced obligatory state procurement increased, and in 1931, 42 % of
Ukraine's
grain harvest was turned over to the state.[9]

Kolhosps delayed or completely failed to pay out stipends for
"workday" (trudodni), and the their members had to rely on their meager and
insufficient individual plots of land and a few domestic animals for
subsistence. Undernourishment became generalized. But Stalin had
reached his goal.

Grain exports rose from below one million tons in 1929, to: 5,832,000
Tons in 1930/31 and 4,786,000 tons in 1931/32. It should be kept in mind
that one million tons could feed four to five million people for one year.
After two years of resistance and unequal struggle with the Communist
authorities, the Ukrainian elites were cowed and most of the collective and 
independent farms despoiled of all their reserves. The republic was on the 
brink of a major catastrophe.

On 26 April 1932, Stanislav Kossior, the General secretary of the
Communist Party of Ukraine, informed Stalin about "individual
Cases and even individual villages that are starving" but blamed it on
"local bungling, errors, particularly in the case of kolkhozes." And,
Lest he displease his Kremlin masters, their lieutenant in Ukraine
dismissed the tragedy with the affirmation that "all talk of famine must be
categorically discarded."[10]

Yet famine there was and on 10 June H. Petrovsky, the head of the
Ukrainian state and V. Chubar, the head of the Ukrainian government, sent
Separate letters to notify Molotov and Stalin of the appalling conditions in
the Ukrainian countryside, and to ask for help.

Chubar admitted that cases of starvation among independent and
Collective farmers had already been signaled in December and January and 
that by "March-April there were dozens and hundreds of malnourished, starving,
and swollen people and people starving to death accumulate in every
village; children and orphans abandoned by their parents appeared".

Raions and oblasts organized aid from internal resources, but were
Obliged to do this "under conditions of acute food shortage, especially
bread".
[11]
Noteworthy additional remark: "Petliurite and other anti-Soviet moods
increased."

Petrovsky's letter was even more to the point. Having just returned
>from an inspection of the countryside, he realized the catastrophic situation
of the farming population. He visited many villages and everywhere saw
multitudes of people, mainly poor and middle peasants, starving, subsisting on
surrogates.

Peasants scolded him, posed embarrassing question, reproached him,
Saying "why did you create an artificial famine, [...] why did you take away
The seed material - this did not happen even  under the old regime, why is
It necessary for Ukrainians to travel for bread [...] to non-grain
Producing territories?".

Echoing Chubar, Petrovsky reported that "because of the famine, mass
Thefts are taking place in the villages." Pointing out that grain harvest is
Still six week off, and famine will only intensify, Petrovsky ask:
"shouldn't assistance be rendered to the Ukrainian countryside in the amount
of
two or, at the very least, one and a half million poods of grain?" And he
predicted that if help is not given starvation would drive peasants to pick
unripe grain and destroy much of it.

Petrovsky's letter paints a bleak picture of the forthcoming harvest.
Since the better grain had been seized by the state, seeds of poorer quality
Were sown and scattered mores thinly. The young crops are good and the
Fields well weeded but the grain is sparse. Petrovsky was also struck by the
Large amount of unsown land. Aware of all these problems, the farmers
Complained to Petrovsky that the new grain procurements would be even more
difficult to meet than last year's. "And this may very well be so", agrees
Petrovsky.

Finally Petrovsky draws attention to the exodus of Ukrainian farmers.
They are forced to seek food beyond the republic's borders, at "the Dno
station, in the Central-Black Earth Oblast', in Belarus, and in Northern
Caucasus", where grain is more readily available, and at much lower prices.

When Petrovsky suggested that farmers band together for these
purchases, he learned that the Commissariat of Transport has drastically
reduced 
the sale of train tickets to peasants. Bewildered Ukrainian peasants needled
Petrovsky: "Why are they banning trips for grain?"

If the two Ukrainian leaders believed their pleas and warnings of
turmoil in the Ukrainian countryside would soften Moscow's position, they were
mistaken. Their effect on Stalin, Kaganovich and Molotov was just the
opposite. Writing from Moscow to Sochi, where Stalin was vacationing,
Kaganovich criticized both Ukrainian leaders, even though he admitted
That some aid would have to be given to Ukraine, and asked Stalin to decide
On the amount. Stalin's response was more brutal and more ominous of
things to come.

He condemned the hypocrisy of the two leaders, who only wanted to get
"new millions of poods[12] of grain from Moscow" and "a reduction in the
plan for grain procurement". Ukrainians must mobilize their own forces and
resources for already "Ukraine has been given more than she should get".[13]
Nevertheless, on 16 June the Politburo considered Ukraine's plea and
Granted about 8,500 tons[14], a paltry amount in comparison with the million
and a half poods requested by Petrovsky.

Politburo's niggardly "largesse" must have provoked Stalin's ire, for
in a letter to Kaganovich, Molotov and the Politburo he came back with
harsh criticism of past errors and new instructions for the coming harvest.
The Gensec blamed "mechanical equalization", which did not take into
account the ability of the kolkhozes to deliver grain, and as a result of
which,
"fertile districts in Ukraine found themselves in a state of
Impoverishment and famine, despite a fairly good harvest."[15]

This is the only known acknowledgement of the Ukrainian famine by
Stalin. He blamed regional authorities for being out of touch with the
countryside and allowing kolkhozniks to travel around the entire European 
part of the USSR demoralize "our farms with their complaints and whining."[16]

Stalin proposed the calling of a top level conference on the
organization of grain procurement and its unconditional fulfillment, and
insisted 
that personal responsibility for grain procurement be delegated to the
first secretaries of the Ukraine, the Northern Caucasus, and the other grain
producing regions. "Personal responsibility" for "unconditional fulfillment"
imposed from the top along the administrative vertikal became the
watchwords of the 1932/33 grain procurement campaign, which would result in
the
genocidal famine.

On 21 June a telegram signed by Stalin and Molotov instructed Kharkiv to
carry out "at any cost" the July-September plan for grain delivery.
Two days later, Moscow answered Ukrainian Politburo's plea for 600,000 
poods of grain with a terse resolution: "bar any additional grain deliveries
to
Ukraine."[17]

The III Conference of KP(b)U (6-10 July 1932) was devoted to the
Upcoming harvest and grain procurement. Stalin sent Molotov and Kaganovich to
The meeting  "to ensure genuinely Bolshevik decisions". Molotov informed
The audience that Moscow had lowered Ukraine's quota but was adamant that
The plan be carried out in full.[18]

Declarations from regional leaders that the farmers were starving, that much
land lay fallow, and that 100 to 200 m.poods of grain would be lost during
harvesting did not bend the resolve of Moscow's envoys.[19] The conference
adopted a resolution to carry out the plan of grain delivery "in full
and unconditionally".[20]

It was largely in response to the tense situation in Ukraine[21], and in
anticipation of new troubles in that republic that Stalin came up with
his infamous decree, dubbed by the farmers "the 5 ears of corn law".
Writing on 20 July to Kaganovich and Molotov, the Gensec complains of 
Widespread theft by "dekulakized kulaks" and others, and proposes to write 
a law, which would make theft of property belonging to collective farms equal 
to similar crimes against state property, and "punishable by a minimum of ten
years'
imprisonment, and as a rule, by death".

"All active agitators against the new collective-farm system" and
"profiteers and resellers of goods" writes Stalin, should be removed
And sent to concentration camps.[22] He also wants stricter controls over
The limited kolkhoz trade allowed by a 6 May 1932 law (kolkhozes allowed
Sell their surplus after 15 January 1933, after fulfilling the state
Procurement plan), made more liberal on 20 May 1932.[23]

A follow-up letter provides ideological explanation: in the same way
That capitalism could not triumph without first making "private property
Sacred property", socialism will not finish off capitalism "unless it
Declares public property (belonging to cooperatives, collective farms or the
state) to be sacred and inviolable".[24]

Returning to the topic on 26 July, Stalin insists on formal legality
of the proposed operations: "we must act on the basis of law ('the peasant
loves legality'), and not merely in accordance with the practice of the
OGPU, although it is clear that the OGPU's role here will not only not
Diminish but, on the contrary, will be strengthened and 'ennobled' (the OGPU
Agencies will operate 'on a lawful basis' rather than 'high-handedly')".[25]

The joint Party-State decree "On the Protection of the Property of
State Enterprises, Collective Farms and Cooperatives, and on the
Consolidation of Public (Socialist) Property" was issued on 7 August 1932. 
It became the main legal instrument used by the Soviet authorities to condemn 
millions of farmers to slow death by starvation. It repeated Stalin's
declarations
that all public property is "sacred and inviolable" and that individuals
attempting to take possession of public property should be considered
"enemies of the people".[26]

All collective farm property, whether in the field or in storage was
Decreed equal to that of state property and theft was made punishable by
execution, which could be reduced to 10-year imprisonment only under 
mitigating circumstances. Advocating withdrawal from the kolkhoz became
tantamount to treason and was punished with three to five years imprisonment 
in concentration camps. No amnesty could be applied in any of these
cases.

The decree on State property was applicable on the whole Soviet
Territory but, as Stalin's letter to Kaganovich shows, it was primarily meant
For Ukraine. Stalin thought the law was "good" and would "soon have an
impact", and ordered a draft of directives from the C.C to the party, judicial
and punitive organizations.[27] The Gensec then addressed the Ukrainian
problem.
The passage is highly revealing:

"The most important thing right now is Ukraine. Ukrainian affairs have hit
rock bottom. Things are bad with regard to the party. There is talk
that in two regions of Ukraine (it seems in the Kiev and Dnepropetrovsk
regions) about 50 raion party committees have spoken out against the
grain-procurements plan, deeming it unrealistic. It is said that the
situation in other raion party committees is no better. [...] This is
not a party but a parliament, [...]

Instead of leading the raions, Kossior kept maneuvering between the
directives of the CC VKP and the demands of the raion party committees
[...]
Things are bad with the soviets. Chubar is no leader. Things are bad
With the GPU. Redens is not up to leading the fight against the
counterrevolution
[...]. [underlined and doubly underlined in original - R.S.]"

Then Stalin brandishes the specter of Ukrainian separatism: "If we don't
undertake at once to straighten out the situation in Ukraine, we may
lose Ukraine." He reminds Kaganovich that Pilsudski and his agents are
underestimated by Redens, and Kossior. He expressed utter contempt for
the whole KP(b)U, composed of 500,000 members ("ha-ha", snickers Stalin),
harboring Pilsudski's agents and "quite a lot (yes a lot!) of rotten
elements, conscious and unconscious Petliurists".

Thinking undoubtedly of Ukraine's negative reaction to the destructive
impact the just-passed property laws will have, Stalin warns: "The
moment things get worse, these [party] elements  will waste no time opening a
front inside (and outside) the party, against the party."

Frustrated by the fact that "the Ukrainian leadership does not see
These dangers", Stalin proposes to replace Kossior with Kaganovich and
Redens with Balitsky, and eventually Chubar with Kaganovich. In this way
Stalin
Intends to transform "Ukraine as quickly as possible into a real fortress of
The USSR, a genuinely exemplary republic."

The task is urgent and calls for immediate action, for without "these and
similar measures (the economic and political strengthening of Ukraine,
above all its border raions, etc.), I repeat, we may lose Ukraine."[28]
Kaganovich agrees, of course, and accuses Ukrainian party of creating a
certain
solidarity and "a rotten sense of mutual responsibility", not only in the
middle echelons of the party, but also among its leadership.[29]

Stalin's exchange of letters with Kaganovich reveals the ambiance in
Which the policy of starvation will be implemented. The overall objective
was to maintain a high level of grain procurement. To assure this, all
challenge outside and inside the republic had to be eliminated, regardless of
the cost. Stalin's raising of the specter of Pilsudski and Petliura agents
running loose in Ukraine and infiltrating the Soviet party and state
machinery was nothing more than a scare tactic and a rallying call.

He was well aware that by the summer of 1932, the weak Polish network
And the few local collaborators had been rounded up by the GPU, which also
arrested real and imaginary followers of Petliura whom Stalin had
eliminated by assassination in 1926. Poland may have had some illusions about
a
Ukrainian insurrection in 1929-1930, but by 1932, the Poles realized
That the starving population was in no shape to revolt.

The Soviet-Polish nonaggression treaty signed on 25 July 1932 was
Ample proof of the changing relations between the two neighbors.[30] The
Pilsudski-Petliura scarecrow will continue to enjoy popularity in
Soviet propaganda. While there was no serious threat from the Poles or the
Ukrainian nationalists, a national insurrection could become a reality if
the expected famine (implied in Stalin's phrase "the moment things get
worse") could bind together the threatened middle cadres of the KP(b)U
with the surviving peasantry. To prevent this eventuality the KP(b)U had to
be purged and kept under close Moscow surveillance.

Stalin maintained that the 1932 harvest was good; historians today are
More skeptical but consider it adequate to cover Soviet Union's internal
needs.
With the state reserves from previous year, there were enough supplies
To feed every citizen of the Soviet Union.

Famine was brought about by the exorbitant amount of grain and other
agricultural products taken from the Ukrainian peasants, and the way
they were extracted. Ukraine's plan was excessive, and in spite of the
protests from Kharkiv and three successive reductions, it remained so to the
end.

Still, Ukraine delivered about a quarter of a billion poods of grain, or
over 90% of its procurement quota. [31] In addition it handed over
large quantities of meat, vegetables and other produce. Stalin insisted that
state procurement have absolute priority. Following a CC VKP(b) directive, a
KP(b)U resolution of 18 November reminded that "complete fulfillment
of the procurement plan by collective farms and the MTS constitutes their
primary obligation [...], to which all the other duties of the collective farm
must be subordinated, including the duty to set up all sorts of funds: seed
fund, forage and food supplies".[32]

Stalin was satisfied that he was achieving his goal. At a high-level
Party meeting, held on 27 November 1932, he gloated: "The party has
succeeded in replacing the 500-600 million poods of marketable grain, procured
during the period of individual peasant holdings by our present ability to
collect 1,200-1,400 m.p. of grain. It is hardly necessary to prove that
without this leap forward the country would have a famine [sic-RS], we would
not be
able to support our industry, we would not be able to feed the workers and
the Red Army."[33]

The allusion to the famine, or rather to freedom from one, was an
Obvious lie, and the reference to the feeding of the workers and the Red Army
- an overstatement; but then, Stalin's concern was not the feeding his
Subjectsb but the financing of Soviet industrialization with grain exports.

Obedience to Moscow's orders was assured in two ways: a) frequently
Repeated delegations to Ukraine and the North Caucasus Territory of Molotov
Kaganovich and other high-ranking leaders to supervise the local
authorities, and b) party discipline enforced from Moscow down the
administrative structure. At the end of October 1932, two commissions
were sent, one to Ukraine headed by Molotov, and the other to North
Caucasus Territory headed by Kaganovich.

Stalin's emissaries supervised party meetings and forced them to pass
resolutions on grain procurements, party discipline, stricter
application of the 7 August property laws, the establishment of "black lists" 
of collective farms in arrears with grain deliveries, imposition of fines,
etc. 
They also instigated purges in party organizations and administrative
structures.
Kuban' was particularly hit with the expulsion of 43 % of the 25,000
Party members, including 358 out of 716 party secretaries.[34]

In Ukraine, during November and first five days of December, the OGPU
arrested 1,230 people, including 340 heads of kolhospy while 327
Communists were brought before the courts for sabotaging state
procurements.[35]
In the 18 November resolution quoted above, the Ukrainian CC reminded the
directors
of sovkhoz of their "personal responsibility as party members and civil
servants for the fulfillment of the grain procurement".

"Personal responsibility" for the execution of instructions was a
Constant refrain in messages coming from above and became an important 
Means for forcing recalcitrant cadres to carry out the Ukrainian genocide.

Dekulakization and deportation continued, on a smaller scale and were
Mostly of political and punitive nature. Arrests, beatings, and cruelty of
All sorts abounded as before, only now the victims were weaker and less
Capable of resistance. Kolkhozes, villages and individual farmers in arrears
On state procurement were put on "black lists", lost access to state-run
stores, and could not buy such essentials as matches, kerosene, salt.

Fines amounted to a year and a quarter's worth of meat tax, without
Freeing the debtor from the unfulfilled grain procurement. "Activists" - the
City workers and their komnezam helpers searched farmers' houses and yards,
looking for the hidden grain.

There is no way of knowing what portion of the hidden grain was found
by the flying brigades of activists, but official reports state that in Kuban
they found 345,000 poods of grain in November, while searches in Ukraine
>from 1 December 1932 to 25 January 1933 yielded 1.7 million poods, in 17,000
hiding places.[36] What grain was found, was confiscated; if nothing was
discovered, they took whatever edibles were seen, leaving the family
to starve.

Peasants who could find some old religious medals or other mementos
Made of precious metals could trek to the city and exchange them at the
Torgsins (stores for foreigners) for vouchers, and then exchange them for
food.

Hardier peasants would flee their villages and seek salvation in urban
centers or in neighboring Belarus and RSFSR, where food was available.
Accounts of Ukrainian peasants overloading trains, filling stations
And wandering about Russian and Belarusian towns and countryside abound.

National and peasant questions became inextricably intertwined in
Stalin's decree of 14 December 1932, issued under the banal title "On Grain
Procurement in Ukraine, Northern Caucasus and the Western Oblast"[37].

Ukrainization was blamed for problems in grain deliveries and
Exemplary punishment was prescribed for sabotage in grain procurement: 5-10
years of concentration camp for a number of "party traitors" arrested in the
Orikhiv raion of Dnipropetrovs'k oblast of Ukraine, and deportation to the
North of the Poltavska stanytsia of Kuban in the RSFSR.

The decree made the party and government chiefs in the three grain
Producing areas personally responsible for the completion of grain procurement
By January 1933. Ukrainianization presently is carried out in Ukraine,
"without meticulous selection of the Bolshevik cadre", had allowed
bourgeois-nationalists and Petliurites to join party and state
institutions and set up their cells and organizations.

Absence of "revolutionary vigilance" by local party organizations let
"counterrevolutionary elements" become directors, accountants,
storekeepers, foremen in collective farms, members of village soviets. Similar
accusation was brought against Northern Caucasus, with supporters of the
Kuban'
Rada figuring in place of Petliurites. This gave nationalists the
opportunity to sabotage harvest and sowing campaigns and organize other
counterrevolutionary activities.

Party and Soviet authorities in Ukraine and Northern Caucasus were
Ordered to extirpate these counterrevolutionary elements, execute them or
Deport them to concentration camps, including "saboteurs with party
Membership cards in their pockets".

The verdict against Ukrainization came in two parts. In Ukraine it was
Not formally prohibited, but Stalin insisted that it resume its primary
vocation, that of promoting "correct Bolshevik implementation of
Lenin's national policy", which in fact meant integration and assimilation.

Ukrainian authorities were instructed to "expel Petliurite and other
bourgeois-nationalist elements from party and government
organizations", and "meticulously select and recruit Ukrainian Bolshevik
cadre". The
signal was thus given for rapid curtailment of Ukrainization and return to a
more
sophisticated policy of Russification.[38]

Ukrainians of Northern Caucasus fared worse. "Non-Bolshevik
'Ukrainianization', which affected nearly half of the raions in the
Northern Caucasus," and which was declared to be "at variance with the
cultural
interests of the population", was totally discontinued and replaced
with Russification.

The use of the Ukrainian language was banned in public offices of
Local administration, cooperative societies, and schools. The printing of
newspapers and magazines in the Ukrainized raions of Northern Caucasus
was to switch immediately to Russian, and preparation were to begin
immediately for the transfer in the fall of all Ukrainian schools into
Russian.

The whole Poltava stanytsia was ordered to be deported and resettled
With demobilized Russian Red Army soldiers, who would receive the abandoned
land, buildings, equipment, and cattle. In fact, 2,158 families with 9,187
members were sent out before 27 December[39] and resettled a month later with
1,826 demobilized soldiers.[40]

Together with Medvedivs'ka and Umans'ka, the three Cossack stanytsias
Saw 45,000 persons deported to the North. On 15 December, Molotov and
Stalin signed a similar ban on Ukrainization, for the rest of the previously
Ukrainized Soviet regions in the RSFSR.

Stalin's anti-Ukrainization decree reveals the extent to which the dictator
was ready to go, in sacrificing the Ukrainian nation on the altar of
great-power ambitions. There is little doubt that the ban on Ukrainization
was a sop to Russian chauvinism, especially in ethnically mixed
regions outside the Ukrainian SSR. National and social repressions reinforced
one another, even if neither was acknowledged openly.

For the next several months after the condemnation of the abuses of
Ukrainization and the Ukrainian sabotage of grain procurements, the
Ukrainian countryside passed through some of the worst moments in its
history. The litany of repressive measures is endless. 82 raions were
deprived of manufactured goods for not fulfilling their quotas of
grain deliveries.

On 19 December, Stalin orders Kaganovich and Postishev back to Ukraine
To help Kosior, Chubar and Khataevich carry out the procurement plan. On
24 December, collective farms are ordered to deliver all grain in
Fulfillment of the plan, including grain put aside for seed and food. Direct
orders to increase repressive measures, arrests and deportations increase. A
real reign of terror seizes the republic and the Kuban.

On 22 January 1933 Stalin struck another crippling blow against the
Starving Ukrainian grain growers. The new secret decree, drafted by the Gensec
himself, is perhaps the best available proof of the dictator's
genocidal intent against the Ukrainian nation. Sent to Ukraine, Belarus and
the
neighboring regions of RSFSR[41], the document calls attention to the
unrestrained exodus of peasants from the Kuban' and Ukraine to the
near-by regions of Russia and Belarus.

Central authorities are said to have no doubt that these migrants, who
pretend to search for food, are, in fact, Socialist-Revolutionaries and
agents of Poland, sent to agitate, "through the peasants", in the
northern parts of the USSR, against the kolkhoz system and the Soviet power.
Addressees are reminded that a similar movement took place the
Previous year, but the party, soviet and police authorities of Ukraine did
nothing to stop it. It must not be allowed to happen this year.

Stalin then orders the party, soviet and the repressive organs of the
Northern Caucasus and Ukraine to prevent the exodus of their peasants
To other regions of the USSR and directs them to close border crossings
between Ukraine and the Northern Caucasus.

The GPU of the Russian oblast's adjacent to the quarantined Ukrainian
And Northern Caucasus regions, and the transport section of the OGPU, are
instructed to arrest all peasants from Ukraine and North Caucasus, who
have managed to leave their territory, and, after segregating the
counter-revolutionary elements, return the others to their villages.

The next day, the Politburo of the CC KP(b)U adopted a resolution to
Carry out Moscow's orders and forwarded the directive, along with addition
instructions, for implementation by the appropriate Ukrainian
authorities.[42]

The Ukrainian branch of the OGPU was ordered to instruct all railway
stations not to sell tickets to peasants with destinations beyond the
Ukrainian borders, without formal travel permission from the raion executive
Committee or a certificate of employment from construction or industrial
enterprises.

Oblasts were told to take "resolute measures" to prevent massive
Departure of their peasants, carefully check the work of agents recruiting
Peasants for work outside Ukraine, and to urge kolhospnyky and individual
farmers not to depart without permission for other raions because they would
be
arrested there.

On 25 January, B. Sheboldaev, the party boss of the North Caucasus
Territory, issued a similar order, adding instructions on the
employment of internal forces and border troupes and the setting up of
filtration
points.[43]

Like the anti-Ukrainization decree of 14 December 1932, the 22 January
1933 directive, which closed the borders to the famished Ukrainian peasants
Was not the beginning but the culmination of processes that had started
Many moths before. Petrovsky had complained to Stalin, back in June 1932,
About the ban on train ticket for Ukrainian peasants who wanted to obtain
provisions in Russia.

Evdokimov's telegram from Rostov-on-Don, which Iagoda prepared for
Stalin's attention on 23 January 1933, details the elaborate measures taken
Since November to prevent the flight of farmers from the Northern Caucasus
Territory. Among these were roadblocks set up on the main arteries of
peasant migration.

Transport authorities had arrested 11,774 persons and another 7,534
Were incarcerated by other organs. In the same dossier, Balitsky's report
>from 22 January informed of massive exodus of peasants from Ukraine since
December.[44]

Departures were registered in 74 raions, 721 villages and 228
kolhosps. In all, 31,693 persons left: 20,129 from Kharkiv oblast', 6,576 from
the
Kyiv oblast, 3,447 from Odessa oblast, and 1,541 from Chernihiv. Of these
migrants about one third were collective farmers and two thirds
individual farmers; 128 were activists. A check at the railway junction
stations
in the Kharkiv oblast revealed a great demand for long-distance tickets: in
January 1933 16,500 such tickets were sold in Lozova station and 15,000 - in
Sumy.

In the beginning of January 1933, the GPU began to apprehend agitators
And organizers of these migrations and arrested over 500 of them. [45] As
A direct result of Stalin's borders decree of 22 January 1933, 219,460
Persons were arrested in the first six weeks of its application; some were
sent to the Goulag, others punished in other ways, while 186,588 were sent
back to their villages to face the famine.[46]

In the middle of March 1933, Kosior wrote unperturbedly to the Kremlin
That "the famine still hasn't taught many kolhospnyky a lesson".[47] In his
report from Kharkiv, dated 31 May 1933, the Italian consul general
prognosticated on the devastation of the country: "The current
disaster will bring about a preponderantly Russian colonization of Ukraine. In
a
future time, perhaps very soon, one will no longer be able to speak of a
Ukraine, or of a Ukrainian people, and thus not even of a Ukrainian problem,
Because Ukraine will have become a de facto Russian region."[48]

There can be little doubt today that the famine was not only used by the
Communist party for political purposes, but that it was actually created and
directed by Stalin and his henchmen for that purpose. The regime's
ultimate objective was to transform the backward empire into an industrial
giant and a military superpower that could export socialism abroad.

To achieve this, Stalin needed great quantities of marketable grain,
Which was to be extracted from the peasants "at any price" to the producers
but at minimal price to the state. The most expedient way was to herd the
peasants into collective farms, subject them to a direct control from the
Kremlin, and in this way ensure maximum grain deliveries to the state.

The Kremlin knew that the peasants would resist and that the
imposition of its will would result in the loss of millions of human lives,
but that
was of no concern for masters of a well-populated empire. Stalin's project
required a homogenous and docile population. Revived Ukrainian
particularism, taking advantage of the indigenization program,
reinforced national unity at the expense of cohesion of the new "fatherland of
world proletariat".

The two sources of resistance to Stalin's plans (national and social)
Became embodied in the same group - the Ukrainian farmers. Stalin decided to
sacrifice a considerable part of this group in order to eliminate the
opposition to his projects and to frighten the rest of the Ukrainian
nation into accepting the role of cogs (as he liked to call them) of the
great socialist mechanism.

The Stalin-Kaganovich discussion of the Petrovsy and Chubar letters
(June-July 1932), the "five ears of corn" law (7 August, 1932), the
condemnation of Ukrainization (14 December 1932), and the closing of
internal Soviet borders on starving Ukrainian peasants, each provide
smoking gun revelations about the genocide against the Ukrainian nation. But a
multitude of other documents now emerging from the secret archives
help us get a rounded understanding of the gigantic crime and the immeasurable
suffering of its victims.
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FOOTNOTES:
[1] Leo Kuper, Genocide. Its Politic Use in the Twentieth Century.
(Penguin,
1981), p. 35.
[2] Valerii Vasiliev & Yuri Shapoval (eds.), Komandyry velykoho
holodu.
Poizdky V. Molotova i L. Kahanovycha v Ukrainu i na Pivnichnyi Kavkaz
1932-1933 rr. Kyiv, 2001; I. Zelenin et al (eds.), Tragediia sovetskoi
derevni. Kollektivizatsiia i rasskulachivanie. Tom 3. Moskva, 2001;
Stalin I Kaganovich Perepiska 1931-1936 gg. Moskva, 2001; 
Rozsekrechena pam'iat': Holodomor 1932-1933 rokiv v Ukraini v dokumentakh 
GPU-NKVD. Kyiv,
2007;
Ruslan Pyrih (ed.), Holodomor 1932-1933 rokiv v Ukraini: dokumenty i
materialy. Kyiv, 2007.

[3] Nicolas Werth, La terreur et le d=E9sarroi: Staline et son syst=E8me.
Paris, Perrin, 2007.

[4] Discussed more fully in my article, "The Ukrainian Famine of
1932-1933 and the United Nations Convention on Genocide", in Taras Hunczak &
Roman Serbyn. Famine in Ukraine 1932-1933: Genocide by Other Means.
(Forthcoming.)

[5] For a thorough discussion of Ukrainization and its problems see
James Mace, Communism and the dilemmas of national liberation: national
Communism in Soviet Ukraine, 1918-1933. Cambride, Mass., 1983. 
See also Terry Martin, The Affirmative Action Empire. Nations and Nationalism 
in the Soviet Union, 1929-1939. Ithaca & London, 2001.

[6] J. V. Stalin, "Concerning the National Question in Yugoslavia"
Works.
Vol. 7. Moscow, 1954. Pp. 71-72.

[7] Rozsekrechena pam'iat'. Pp. 75-81.

[8] Valerii Vasil'ev & Linn Viola. Kolektyvizatsiia i selians'kyi opir
Na Ukraini (lystopad 1929-berezen' 1930). Vinnytsia, 1997. P. 91.
-
[9] Nicolas Werth, La terreur et le d=E9sarroi: Staline et son syst=E8me.
Paris, Perrin, 2007.  P. 118.

[10] Holod 1932-1933 rokiv na Ukraini:ochyma istorykiv, movoiu
dokumentiv. Kyiv, 1990. P. 148.

[11] All quotations and references to the two letters are taken from
Komandyry velykoho holodu. Pp.206-215.

[12] One pood =3D 16.36 kg; 1 ton - 61.36 poods.

[13] The Stalin-Kaganovich Correspondence 1931-1936. New Haven&
London, 2003. P. 136.

[14] For the allocation of the food aid, see Holod 1932-1933 rokiv na
Ukraini. Kyiv, 1990. P. 183, 187-188.

[15] The Stalin-Kaganovich Correspondence. P. 138 (Underlined by
Stalin).


[16] The Stalin-Kaganovich Correspondence. P. 138-139..

[17] Holod. 1990. P. 183 (doc. 63), P. 190 (doc. 68).

[18] The original plan of 410 million poods (6.7 m.t.) was lowered
twice to 356 and 274.8 million poods (5.8 m.t.; 4.5 m.t. ) but 16 November was
raised to 5.8 m.t.  Rozsekrechena pam'iat'. p. 84.

[19] For a detailed account of the deliberations see Komandyry
Velykoho holodu. Pp. 152-164

[20] See part of the resolution in Holod1932-1933 rokiv na Ukraini.
Kyiv, 1990. P. 194-198

[21] A secret OGPU report from around 20 July 1932 stated that "as for
anti-Soviet manifestations, Ukraine occupies first place". "From 1
January to 1 July 1932, 118 counterrevolutionary kulak organizations were
discovered, counting 2.479 members. In addition, along the lines of
national counterrevolution we have unmasked 35 groups with 562 members."
Tragedia, p.

421. Another secret OGPU report, dated 5 August, contains a section
"National counterrevolution (U[krainian]SSR)" which relates the
Liquidation of 8 nationalist groups, two of which consisted of former members 
Of the outlawed UKP (Ukrainian Communist Party). These people are said to
have a leftist program and conduct systematic activity among members of the
KP(b)U, arguing that the Soviet authorities are suppressing the Ukrainian
culture. In their platform, claims the report, they declare war on the Soviet
regime and Polish fascism, while in fact keeping links abroad and carrying
out directives of the Second Department of of the Polish General Staff in
Ukraine. Ibid.  p. 443.

[22] The Stalin-Kaganovich Correspondence. P. 164-165.

[23] S. Kulchytsky, Tsina "Velykoho perelomu". Kyiv, 1990. P. 296. On
23 July Stalin sent a telegram to Kaganovich demanding the restoration
And enforcement of last year's ban on transporting private bread supplies
By rail or water. Tragedia, p. 428.

[24] The Stalin-Kaganovich Correspondence. P. 166.

[25] The Stalin-Kaganovich Correspondence. P. 169.

[26] Tragedia, p. 453-454.

[27] Stalin i Kaganovich Perepiska. Pp. 273-275; The Stalin-Kaganovich
Correspondence. P. 179-181. A follow-up secret "Instruction on the
Application of the TsIK and SNK SSSR of 7 August 1932 About the
Safeguarding of State Property", signed by the Chairman and the Prosecutor of
the
Supreme Court of the USSR and the Vice-Charman of the OGPU, was sent out on 16
September to all republican and oblast authorities. Tragedia. P.
477-479.

[28] On 12 August Stalin sends a note to Kaganovich asking him to keep
secret for the moment the plan regarding Ukraine sent in the preceding
letter. Tragedia. P. 276. To stiffen Kosior's resolve, in January
1933, Stalin sent him the more resolute Postyshev as his second in command;
Redens was replaced Balitsky in February 1933.

[29] Letter of 16 Augus 1932. Stalin i Kaganovich Perepiska. P.
283-284;
Stalin-Kaganovich Correspondence. P. 183-184.

[30] Timoty Snyder, Sketches from a Secret War. New Haven, Yale
University Press. P. 104.

[31] Kosior spoke of 255 m.p. at the January plenum of the CC KP(b)U.
Holod1932-1933 rokiv na Ukraini. P. 352. 
Davies and Wheatcroft give
3,584,000 tons, or 219 millon poods, P. 478. 
Other authors give similar figures.

[32] Holod 1932-1932 rokiv na Ukraini. P. 253.

[33] Tragedia. P. 559.

[34] Davies & Wheatcroft, The Years of Hunger. P. 178.

[35] Komandyry velykoho holodu. P. 50.

[36] Komandyry velykoho holodu. P. 49; Kulchytsky, Holod 1932-1933 v
Ukraini iak henotsyd. Kyiv, 2005. P. 98

[37] Tragedia, Pp. 575-577; also in Holod 1932-1933 rokiv na Ukraini.
Pp 291-194.

[38] The Russification of Ukraine attracted the attention of the
Italian consulate in Kharkiv. "In government offices the Russian language is
Once again being used, in correspondence as well as in verbal dealings
Between employees." See the "Italian Diplomatic and Consular Dispatches",
Report to Congress. Commission on the Ukraine Famine. Washington, 1988. P.
446.

[39] G.G. Iagoda report to Stalin, 29 December 1932. Lubianka. Stalin
I VChK-GPU-OGPU-NKVD. Moskva 2003. P. 386.

[40] Nicolaas Werth, Le pouvoir sovi=E9tique et la paysannerie dans les
rapports de la police politique (1930-1934). Rapport du 27 f=E9vrier
1933.
/http:/www.ihtp.cnrs.fr/dossier_soviet_paysans/sommaire.html/

[41] Tragedia sovetskoi derevni. P. 634-635. The first English
Translation of the document appeared in Terry Martin, The Affirmative Action
Empire. Nations and Nationalism in the Soviet Union, 1923-1939. Ithaca and
London, 2001. P.p. 306-307.

[42] Volodymyr Serhiichuk. Iak nas moryly holodom. Kyiv, 2003. PP
156-158.

[43] Tragedia, p. 636-637.Sheboldaev added more precisions on the
Filtration points three days later. Ibid. P. 638.

[44] Lubianka. Stalin i VChK-GPU-OGPU-NKVD. Moskva 2003.P. 394.

[45] Lubianka. P. 392-393.

[46] N.A. Ivnitskii, Kollektivizatsiia i raskulachivanie (nachala 30-
Kh godov). Moscow, 1994. P. 204.

[47] Tragedia. P. 657.

[48] "Italian Diplomatic and Consular Dispatches. Op. cit. P. 427.

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For more  than the past 2000 years, people all around the world 
have suffered because of the Christkiller ZYDS. 

Never forget what ZYDS have done, and still do, and their criminality. 
No wonder thinking people dislike the  filthy ZYDS so much.


On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:06:32 -0700, Samisdat2 ,  in
wrote:
>On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:35:10 -0700, Ernst Zundholtz
> wrote:

Looks like the filthy ZYDS just do not like this well-documented
expose of their holohoax, and the fact that it documents 52 cases of
ZYD COLLABORATION WITH THE NAZIS!!

>>On 28 Nov 2004 10:59:36 -0800, heinrichhimmelfarb@xmail.net
>>(HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote:

This article is so important, it needs to be reposted and passed on,
so that more and more people around the world will come to know the
truth about the ZHID COLLABORATION with nazis.
It will not be surprising to find after even more research, that even
more incidents of ZHID/Nazi COLLABORATION happened!!

>Even about the HOLOHOAX, based on zhid lies!!
>
>More and more truth is coming out, about the perfidious ZHID
>COLLABORATION with the nazis!!
>
>Surely this should cause those countries paying tribute dollars to the
>ZHIDS, to consider demanding repayment?

>>>On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:08:44 -0700, Joel Eichmann
>>> wrote:
>
>It will not be surprising for researchers in Poland, Russia and even
>Germany and Switzerland, to produce even more evidence of even more
>COLLABORATION between the zionists and their colleagues in Germany!!
>
>>>On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 08:41:32 -0700, dandelion
>>> wrote:
>
>>>Now that more and more research, with supporting documentation, is
>>>being made public, documenting the collaboration of the ZIONAZIS with
>>>the nazis, slime like Shiksa Sueee Cohen do not want this TRUTH made
>>>public.
>
>>>Even German historians such as C. Lange are now making public their
>>>findings, to the chagrin of the ZHID COLLABORATORS.
>
>>>It was not only the notorious KASTNER CASE!!
>
>>>On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:51:02 -0700, Heinrich Himmelfarb
>>> wrote:
>>>Newsgroups:soc.culture.swiss,soc.culture.european,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.germany
>>>On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:25:52 GMT, c@c.cc wrote:
>>>51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis  
>>>September 2004, page 86 
>>>Book Review
>>>51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis
>>>By Lenni Brenner, ed. Barricade Books, 2002, 342 pp. List:$22; AET:
>>>$15.
>>>Reviewed by Sara Powell
>>>It's no secret that Zionism embraced political expediency to advance
>>>the cause of carving Eretz-Israel from the land of its native
>>>inhabitants. In his 1983 book, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators,
>>>Lenni Brenner shows that 20th century Zionists observed shockingly few
>>>limits to that expediency. Not surprisingly, the book received little
>>>coverage in the American media. 

Now, in 51 Documents, Brenner has compiled a wide variety of letters,
statements, articles, and judgements?some of which appeared in his
earlier  book?by a broad array of activists and authors, that documents
Zionist cooperration with the Nazis. 

On the face of it, the notion seems absurd. However, Brenner
presents the case?made in many Zionists? own words?that the Nazi
agenda of expelling the Jews from Germany fit nicely with the Zionist
plan for enticing those Jews into settling in Palestine and creating a
new Jewish nation. 

>>>In addition to introductory and concluding chapters, the book is
>>>organized into five sections which lead the reader through early,
>>>pre-Zionist documents; pre-Holocaust ideological factions; the
>>>Holocaust era itself; and a chapter on the Stern Gang and the Nazis.
>
>>>Readers should note that a few documents are not indicative of
>>>collaboration in and of themselves, but provide the background to
>>>others written in response. 
>
>>>These latter do indicate levels of collaboration between Zionists and
>>>fascists, both the Nazis in Germany, and those in Mussolini's Italy.
>>>Brenner's brief explanatory notes at the beginning of each document
>>>are helpful, as are the glossary and index.
>
>>>51 Documents assumes a certain knowledge of Zionist history, and
>>>requires a close reading and some deconstructive efforts on the part
>>>of the reader. Those willing to commit the time and effort, however,
>>>are rewarded with some stunning revelations. The reason some Zionists
>>>eschewed the boycott against Hitler?s Germany, for instance, is that
>>>they had a financial deal?Ha'avara?with Germany allowing Jews to
>>>exchange their wealth for goods to be exported to Palestine at less of
>>>a loss, as an incentive to emigrate. Those wondering why Zionists
>>>today are so organized and experienced in their public relations
>>>efforts discover that these battles have been fought before. Moreover,
>>>the section on Nazi and Zionist understandings of 'nationality' versus
>>>citizenship reveals how German and Israeli practices are based on the
>>>same concept. 
>
>>>51 Documents also sheds a whole new light on the term Holocaust
>>>guilt, frequently understood to mean Western, non-Jewish guilt for
>>>not acting against the Holocaust earlier. However, these documents
>>>make it clear that Holocaust guilt began with those Zionists who made
>>>the undoubtedly difficult, but politically expedient choice to place
>>>Eretz-Israel at the top of their priorities, above the lives of their
>>>threatened European brethren.
>
>>>From a Zionist Executive Meeting speech by Yitzhak Gruenbaum on Feb.
>>>18, 1943:
>
>>>And when some asked me: Can't you give money from Keren Ha Yesod
>>>(Palestine Foundation Fund) to save Jews in the Diaspora? I said:
>>>'No!  And again I say no....And, because of these things, people
>>>called me an anti-Semite, and concluded that I'm guilty, for the fact
>>>that we don't give ourselves completely to rescue actions.(p. 211)
>
>>>However difficult it may be, the reader must confront some rather
>>>disturbing conclusions. The most unsettling realization for this
>>>reviewer is that pre-Holocaust Zionists were able to politically align
>>>themselves with the Nazis because both groups fundamentally saw race
>>>as an important dividing line?and, moreover, were determined to keep
>>>it that way. 
>
>>>From Vladimir Jabotinsky to Albert Einstein,'assimilation' of Jews
>>>into the societies in which they lived was not an acceptable option.
>>>Rather, Jewish nationalism required equality on a national level, not
>>>a personal one. As Jabotinsky explained, 'It is impossible for a man
>>>to become assimilated with people whose blood is different from his
>>>own'
>
>>>(p. 10); in Einstein?s words, ?Palestine is first and foremost not a
>>>refuge for East European Jews, but the incarnation of a reawakening
>>>sense of national solidarity? (p. 29).
>
>>>Finally, David Yisraeli, a member of the STERN  GANG, , wrote the
>>>following in late 1940, as part of a proposal to Hitler. It was
>>>delivered in 1941 to two German diplomats in Lebanon.
>
>>>3. The establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and
>>>totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would be
>>>in the interest of a maintained and strengthened future German
>>>position of power in the Near East (p. 301).
>
>>>Such beliefs, of course, were not limited to Nazis and Zionists.
>>>Scientific and philosophical constructs of the day considered such
>>>differentiation legitimate, and ideas of racial difference?and,
>>>therefore, racial supremacy?were practiced around the world.
>
>>>Another disturbing conclusion a reader must inevitably face is that
>>>Zionists learned both tactical and political lessons from the Nazis
>>>and that, even today, these lessons are applied to further the Zionist
>>>cause. Although most likely known to potential readers of this book,
>>>another disturbing element is the cover-up of the less than savory
>>>roles of current Israeli leaders, including former prime ministers, in
>>>the terrorist Irgun and Stern Gang just before, during, and after the
>>>Holocaust. Likewise, the succumbing of various U.S. officials to
>>>Zionist pressure is a familiar, but distressing, story.
>
>>>51 Documents seems to represent a renewed attempt by Brenner to bring
>>>information regarding Zionist collaboration with the Nazis to U.S.
>>>supporters of Israel, as well as to Jews and Muslims, in order to
>>>expand dialogue with knowledge, and save lives 'both Palestinian and
>>>Israeli' in the process. Readers of 51 Documents will find it difficult
>>>not to remove the rose colored glasses that so many seem to wear when
>>>examining Zionism.
>
>
># 5                           The Kastner Case
>
>Extracted from a pamphlet issued by BAZO-PS - 1981
>
>Introduction
>
>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is 
>that involving Rudolf Kastner.
>
>Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. 
>Those who have, are generally under the impression that 
>there is some "controversy" about negotiations he undertook 
>for "the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military 
>equipment," but that he was "fully rehabilitated" by the
>Supreme Court of Israel.
>
>The Accusations
>
>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
>
>Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the 
>British Medical Research Council, was one of the few 
>escapees from Auschwitz. In his memoirs published in 
>February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he wrote:
>
>I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - 
>I accuse certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly 
>deeds of the war.
>
>This small group of quislings knew what was happening to 
>their brethren in Hitler's gas chambers and bought their 
>own lives with the price of silence. 
>
>Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke
>for all Jews in Hungary. 
>While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz - the number is
>still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics of the
>exterminations...I took these terrible statistics with me 
>when I escaped in 1944 and I was able to give Hungarian 
>Zionist leaders three weeks notice that Eichmann planned 
>to send a million of their Jews to his gas chambers...
>Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, "I know of your plans;
>spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet."
>
>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. 
>uniform and took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. 
>
>Nor did the sordid bargaining end there.
>
>Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this 
>ittle fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom 
>when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine...
>(Ben Hecht, Perfidy, pp 261-2)
>
>These accusations are confirmed by the "Eichmann Confessions"
>published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
>
>"I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the 
>commander stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off 
>in a lightning operation, I wanted to set an example for 
>future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to Himmler's 
>directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>political officials in Budapest...Among them, Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. 
>
>This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold 
>lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the 
>Jews from resisting deportation - and even keep order in the 
>collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a few
>hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to 
>Palestine. It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the 
>camps, the price...was not too high for me.
>
>"...We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, 
>Kastner smoked cigarets as though he were in a coffeehouse. 
>While we talked he would smoke one aromatic cigaret after 
>another, taking them from a silver case and lighting them 
>with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
>he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
>
>"Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for 
>a select group of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Palestune...
>
>"As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity 
>between our attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these 
>immensely idealistic Zionist leaders....I believe that Kastner
>would have sacrificed a thousand or a hundred thousand of his
>blood to achieve his political goal...
>'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have 
>this group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great 
>service by helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I 
>would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
>concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...
>That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner." 
>(Hecht, Ibid., pp.260-61)
>
>Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false, 
>do not relate merely to "the purchase of Jewish lives for 
>money and military equipment."
>
>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. 
>When Malchiel Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli 
>citizen published these accusations against Kastner, the 
>Israeli Government did rather more  than demand that his 
>views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent Zionist 
>official Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of 
>Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General 
>of the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>-88-
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Posted by Robert E. Nordlander
>nord@powernetonline.com
>
>
>Subject: Kastner Case=ZHID KOLLABORACI WITH NAZIS!!
>
>From: Elias Davidsson (edavid@itn.is)
>Subject: Zionism. The Kastner case (1/2)
>Newsgroups: soc.culture.israel
>Date: 1997/07/12
>
>The Kastner Case
>-----------------
>Introduction
>
>Rather than answer every complaint in the same detail, we are taking
>up the issue which the VJBD has declared to be the most offensive of all and
>will show that on this question 'The documentation available is overwhelming
>and its message is thundering", just as Palestine Speaks claimed in one of the
>extracts complained about by the VJBD.
>
>Since the accusation of direct Zionist cooperation and assistance in
>the extermination of hundreds of thousands of Jewish people, and the
>accusation that this flowed logically from shared aims, are clearly the most
>'extreme' and 'offensive' accusations of Nazi-Zionist collaboration broadcast
>on 3CR programs, we will deal with this first, and in greater detail.
>
>Since the 'Kastner case' is the subject of most of the broadcasts
>concerning collaboration which have been specifically complained
>about, we shall go into this in greatest detail, and have put some books in as
>evidence about it. Having answered the VJBD where its case appears strongest,
>and on the points to which it has given greatest emphasis,we hope it may
>become apparent to the Tribunal that things are not quite what they may have
>appeared before this inquiry began.
>
>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
>involving Rudolf Kastner.
>
>Most Jewish people in Australia have never heard of Rudolf Kastner.
>Those who have, are generally under the impression that there is some
>'controversy' about negotiations he undertook for 'the purchase of
>Jewish lives for money and military equipment', but that he was 'fully
>rehabilitated' by the Supreme Court of Israel.
>
>That is exactly the line taken by Dr. John Foster, the Victorian
>Jewish Board of Deputies expert witness, in his evidence condemning
>3CR for anti-semitism.
>
>It is quite clear from this evidence, that Dr. Foster does not know
>anything at all about the Kastner case, since he does not even know
>what Kastner was accused of.
>
>This may not be his fault however, since one cannot read an accurate
>account of the Kastner case in any of the widely available works dealing with
>the Holocaust, either in bookshops or libraries. Apart from 3CR, the
>suppression of information has been so complete, that even an expert like Dr.
>Foster, specifically asked to give evidence on the matter, has been unable to
>find out what it is all about.
>
>The Accusations
>----------------
>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
>
>"Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
>In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald,
>he wrote:
>
>'I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - I accuse
>certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
>
>This small group of quislings knew what was happening to their
>brethren in Hitler's gas chambers and bought their their own lives with the
>price of silence. Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which
>spoke for all Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz
>- the number is still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics of the
>exterminations...I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in
>1944 and I was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
>Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas chambers...Kastner
>went to Eichmann and told him, 'I know of your plans; spare some Jews of my
>choice and I shall keep quiet.'
>
>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>bargaining end there.
>
>Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little
>fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany collapsed,
>to set himself up in the Argentine..."(Ben Hecht, op.cit. pp261-2)
>
>These accusations are confirmed by the 'Eichmann Confessions'
>published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
>
>"I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation, I
>wanted to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to
>Himmler's directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>political officials in Budapest...Among them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized
>representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about
>my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist.
>He agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation - and even
>keep order in the collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a few
>hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price...was
>not too high for me.
>
>We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver case and
>lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve he
>would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
>
>Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel...
>
>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>Zionist leaders....I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
>goal...'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have this
>group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping keep
>the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape.
>After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...
>That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner" (Hecht, ibid,
>p.26ö-61)
>
>Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false, do not relate
>merely to 'the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
>equipment', as Dr. Foster imagines, and the term 'collaboration' is the term
>that would apply. It seems unlikely that if Dr. Foster had known what the
>accusation actually was, he would have condemned 3CR saying 'In these
>circumstances, to talk of collaboration is malicious and absurd'.
>
>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>
>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel prosecuted
>Greenwald for criminal libel.
>
>The Verdict
>------------
>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi in Israel's District Court of
>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>studied carefully, since a substantial extract from it, broadcast on 3CR, has
>been complained about by the VJBD as allegedly offensive to the Jewish
>community, likely to promote anti-semitism, likely to promote racism, in bad
>taste and contrary to common sense.
>
>It is the actual words used that are the subject of the Board's
>complaint, not the manner of their representation by 3CR. Presumably
>the Board itself was not aware just whose words they were when it made
>its' complaint, which shows how complete suppression of information can
>backfire on the censors themselves.
>
>Here then are excerpts from the verdict of Judge Halevi, who later
>became one of the panel of three judges that tried Eichmann:
>
>"The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded the
>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>confidence in the false information that they were being transferred to
>Kenyermeze.
>
>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>
>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead the
>Jews.
>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>of Jewish leaders.
>
>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>spreading such false information and did not protest.
>
>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.
>
>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>hampering the deportation orders.
>
>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attemptt to overpower these
>few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to the
>deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>
>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>
>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>deportations...these same leaders did not join the people of their community
>in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.
>
>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council
>in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did
>this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of
>its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>Jewish leaders into oollaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>catastrophe.



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ZYDs/ Zionist Criminals Control  Ukraine!!

On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 00:17:27 +0200, in soc.culture.europe "-"  wrote:

http://www.iamthewitness.com/Ukraine.html

      Who controls the Ukraine?

            Note: For more information, Bollyn has some information about
this area; one about Boris Berezovsky and one about Turkmenistan and
Ukrainian president, Viktor Yushchenko

            A site about the Ukraine's problems with Zionism has been
"siezed": http://ukar.org
            It is now available only at the Internet archive:
            http://web.archive.org/web/20051123102140/ukar.org/index.html

      The following was written by Vladimir Borisov, possibly in January
2005

          Ukraine, which parted from Russia in 1991, has never achieved a
true independent state. Just like in Russia, or even 80 years earlier in the
Weimar Republic, a tribe of vultures descended upon the body of the nation.

      In the early 1990s, backed by the financial power of international
Jewish bankers, the vultures bought for pennies, and plainly seized, all
major enterprises previously owned by the state. Including the biggest
factories and entire sectors of the newly "privatized" national economy.

            Pictured clockwise: Billionaire media moguls Gregory Surkis,
Victor Medvedchuk, Vadim Rabinovich and Victor Pinchuk.

      According to the 2001 Ukrainian census, there are 103,000 Jews in
Ukraine, which is 0.2% of the total population. Out of 130 nationalities in
the Ukraine, the Jewish minority numerically is behind Bulgarians (204,000),
Hungarians (156,000), Romanians (151,000) and Poles (144,000). However, as
one might expect, the Jewish "oligarchs" were the ones who happened to seize
all positions in mass media.

      Professor Vasyl Yaremenko, director of the Institute of Culturological
and Ethnopolitical research at Kiev State University, released an article in
2003 entitled, "Jews in Ukraine today: reality without myths." In it he says
the following:

        "Ukrainians need to know that the mass media is completely in the
hands of Jews, and everything that we watch or read is the product of Jewish
ideology."

      He then reviews the situation in regards to Ukrainian network
television and cable broadcasters:

        . "First National Television Channel UT-1" is owned by the president
of the Social Democratic Party, led and dominated by chief of staff Viktor
Medvedchuk.
        . "Inter TV" and "Studio 1+1 TV" have been Ukrainian national
broadcasters since 1996, they are available in English, Ukrainian and
Russian languages. They are owned by Viktor Medvedchuk and Gregory Surkis.

        . "Alternativa TV", "TET Broadcasting Company", and "UNIAN
(Ukrainian Independent Information & News Agency)" are also owned by Viktor
Medvedchuk and Gregory Surkis.

        . "STB TV" and "ICTV" are owned by the Viktor Pinchuk, the
wealthiest man in Ukraine, with an estimated net worth of $3 billion.

        . "Novyi Kanal (New Channel) TV" is owned by Viktor Pinchuk with a
group of Jewish oligarchs from Russia called "Alpha Group."


      Zionists control all of Ukrainian television media!

      According to Professor Yaremenko, all major newspapers are also owned
by Jews:

        . The publishing house of Rabinovich-Katsman owns the newspapers
Stolychka, Stolichnye Novosti, Jewish Review (in Russian), Jewish Reviewer,
Vek, Mig, and Zerkalo .
        . Jed Sandes, an American citizen and a Jew, publishes Korrespondent
and Kiev-Post.

        . Gregory Surkis publishes Kievskie Vedomosti and the weekly 2000.

        . Jew Dmitro Gordon publishes Bulvar.

        . Viktor Pinchuk publishes Facts and Commentaries.

        . The Donetsk Group (Jewish-Russian oligarchs) publishes Segondnya.

      Who are these "Ukrainian" oligarchs?

      Jew Victor Pinchuk is the son-of-law of Ukrainian president Leonid
Kuchma [Kuchma was placed into office by Jew George Soros]. He is the owner
of several oil, gas and energy import/export companies. He also owns the
nation's largest steel mill and a chain of banks. His group has very strong
ties with other Jewish organizations in Ukraine, as well as in the U.S. and
Israel. He is a member of the Ukrainian Parliament, an adviser to the
president, and one of the leaders of the Labor Ukrainian Party.

      Jew Vadim Rabinovich is a citizen of Israel. In 1980 he was charged
with stealing state property and spent 9 months in a jail. In 1984 he was
arrested and sentenced to 14 years in prison for his black market activities

. He was released in 1990. In 1993 he became a representative of the
Austrian company "Nordex" in Ukraine. The company received exclusive rights
to sell Russian oil from president Kuchma . In 1997 Rabinovich became
president of the All-Ukrainian Jewish Congress, and in 1999 he was elected
head of the United Jewish Community of Ukraine. Also in 1999, Rabinovich
created the Jewish Confederation of Ukraine. That same year the Associated
Press estimated his wealth as $1 billion. Rabinovich owns Central Europe
Media Enterprises, which controls television stations in seven East European
countries.

      Jew Victor Medvedchuk is Ukrainian President Leonid Kuchma's Chief of
Staff. The Medvedchuk-Surkis cabal controls Ukraine's energy sector (8
regional energy companies), oil and gas market, alcohol and sugar
production, shipbuilding, and athletic organizations. He is a member of the
Ukrainian Parliament, and a leader in the Social Democratic party of Ukraine
(SDPU).

      Jew Gregory Surkis is second in command of the SDPU. He owns a soccer
team, Dynamo-Kiev, and is a president of the Professional Soccer League. He
is CEO of Slavutich, a company that controls several regional energy
companies (KirovogradEnergo, PoltavEnergo, etc). He too is a member of the
Ukrainian Parliament.

      Professor Yaremenko points out that out of the 400+ members of the
Ukrainian Parliament, 136 (possibly 158) are Jews. That is more than in the
Israeli Knesset. Who voted for them, asks professor Yaremenko. Who paid for
costly election campaigns? -- 90% of Ukrainian banks are owned by Jews.

      Ukraine is the perfect example of so-called Democracy - "democracy"
where the rule of a tiny, ethnic minority is disguised under the cloak of
the will and rule of the majority. By controlling mass media and skillfully
manipulating the opinions of the Ukrainian electorat, these "fat cats" as
they're called in Ukraine -- these liars and corrupters, are the real
masters in this beautiful country.

      Does it surprise anyone to see the rise in "anti-Semitism" around the
world, and in Ukraine in particular?

      "Jews in Ukraine: Reality Without Myth" was published on Sept. 30,
2003, and was the article that prompted the Ukrainian Jewish Congress to
file a lawsuit asking the court to shut down the newspaper Sel'skie Vesti,
which published it. Sel'skie Vesti had a circulation of over 500,000 and was
the largest in Ukraine.

      On Jan. 28, a court in Kiev, Ukraine, ordered the closure of the daily
newspaper on the grounds that it was publishing "hate literature," a crime
in Jewish-owned Ukraine. The newspaper was found guilty of publishing
"anti-Semitic" materials, and promoting ethnic and religious hostility.

      A well-known Ukrainian Jewish community leader and anti-Zionist,
Eduard Hodos, has come to the defense of the newspaper and the articles'
author, Vasily Yaremenko. In the course of his speech intended for a hearing
of the Appellate Court of the City of Kiev (scheduled for May 25, 2004, but
delayed indefinitely for reasons unknown), the author denounces the Talmud
as "monstrous" and defends Mel Gibson's 'The Passion of the Christ', which
has come under attack by 'human rights advocates' everywhere. You can read
it here:
      http://web.archive.org/web/20050310165024/oag.ru/views/love.html

      Prior to being shut down, the newspaper published the following
letters from readers, which were reprinted by Jewish organizations and used
as "proof" of "anti-Semtism."

      ...Today the Jewish community in Ukraine is not experiencing the
rebirth of a national minority but is in the process of legalizing its
dealings as an apolitical and economic structure, which is well planned,
organized and financed. This so-called minority exhibits extreme aggression.

It poses an elevated threat to the national security of Ukraine. As a
foreign political body that practically oversees international trade,
national finances, mass media and publishing, it must be placed under strict
government and sate control, and must be regimented and regulated.

        ...90% of Ukrainian banks are run by Jewish "specialists." In other
words, Ukrainian finances are in Jewish hands. As a Ukrainian citizen and an
ethnic Ukrainian, my origin forces me speak up and ask: "Is this normal?"

        ...In the 1930s, all Ukrainian gold that had been passed down from
generation to generation ended up in Jewish wallets after the famine
organized by Jews [the author earlier writes that 99% of PCIA
members--Stalin's secret police--were Jewish] and Ukrainians had to reach
deeply into their pockets. However, Jews were not able to enjoy those stolen
goods as German fascism changed the course of events. Today the gold of
Ukrainian Jews, these gold diggers of the Ukrainian Klondike, is in banks in
Switzerland.

        ...It is not safe to write about Jews not because the writer will
automatically be accused of xenophobia, but because every Ukrainian, if not
openly then secretly, is an anti-Semite ready to participate in a pogrom.

        ...Ukrainians must know that Ukrainian mass media is in the hands of
Jews and that we absorb information and food for the soul from a Jewish
ideological kitchen.

        ...Jewish publicists deny the fact that [Jewish people] organized
the Ukrainian famine in 1933. However, eyewitnesses claim otherwise.... Not
one Jewish person died from starvation in 1933.

        ...We are not anti-Semites. However, we believe it is dishonorable
and demeaning to stay quiet when Zionists are taking over the political and
economic spheres of our country. We must let people know the truth about the
doings of Zionists in Ukraine.

        ...He told the truth about the vicious activities of Zionists in
Ukraine.

        ...We cannot allow Zionists to destroy Ukraine.





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ZYDS/Jews and Bolshevism Which Was Controlled By Them

On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 09:55:33 -0400, in alt.revisionism
chester_field@fastmail.fm wrote:

ZYDs/Jews and Bolshevism
 
Amongst themselves, the Jews are quite candid about their sympathy for
and involvement in Bolshevism.

On 4 April 1919 the Jewish Chronicle: "There is much in the fact of
Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so many Jews are Bolshevists, in
the fact that the ideals of Bolshevism at many points are consonant
with the finest ideals of Judaism."

(Perhaps this explains why the Red Army uses a Jewish star as its
symbol?)

Probably the best-known exposé of the Jewish role in the Bolshevik
coup d'état was by Sir Winston Churchill, writing in the Illustrated
Sunday Herald of 8 February 1920. Churchill wrote "With the notable
exception of Lenin, the majority of leading figures are Jews. Moreover
the principal inspiration and the driving power comes from Jewish
leaders."

Communism was of course founded by Karl Marx whose grandfather was a
rabbi by the name of Mordeccai. Marx was given his initial
encouragement by a Communist-Zionist by the name of Moses Hess. As
founder and editor of the Rheinische Zeitung, the main organ of
leftist thought in Germany, he provided Karl Marx with his first
important platform. Later, in Brussels, he collaborated with Marx on
The German Ideology. It was Hess too who converted to Communism
Friedrich Engels, the wealthy textiles magnate who later subsidised
Marx from the profits of sweated labour in Britain and Germany.

When the Bolsheviks overthrew the short-lived democratic government in
Moscow and St. Petersburg in October 1917, it was a virtual Jewish
coup d'état. The most prominent Jewish Commissar was Trotsky, real
name Bronstein. He had been married by a rabbi in 1900, and whilst in
exile in New York he had worked for Novy Mir, described in the Church
Times (23 January 1925) as a "Yiddish newspaper."

The various reporters and diplomats who were there at the time of the
"Revolution" have given evidence as to its Jewish nature.

The widow of the Guardian's correspondent Mrs. Ariadna
Tyrkova-Williams wrote: "In the Soviet Republic all the committees and
commissaries were filled with Jews."

The most detailed description of Jewish influence in the Bolshevik
'revolution comes from Robert Wilton, the Russian correspondent of The
Times. In 1920 he published a book in French, Les Derniers Jours des
Romanofs, which gave the racial background of all the members of the
Soviet government. (This does not appear in the later English
translation, for some odd reason.) After the publication of this
monumental work, Wilton was ostracised by the press, and he died in
poverty in 1925. He reported that the Central Committee of the
Bolshevik Party was made up as follows:

 
NAME 	NATIONALITY
Bronstein (Trotsky) 	Jew
Apfelbaum (Zinovief) 	Jew
Lourie (Larine) 	Jew
Ouritski 	Jew
Volodarski 	Jew
Rosenfeldt (Kamanef) 	Jew
Smidovitch 	Jew
Sverdlof (Yankel) 	Jew
Nakhamkes (Steklof) 	Jew
Ulyanov (Lenin) 	Russian
Krylenko 	Russian
Lounatcharski 	Russian



 
"The Council of the People's Commissars comprises the following:

 
MINISTRY 	NAME 	NATIONALITY
President 	Ulyanov (Lenin) 	Russian
Foreign Affairs 	Tchitcherine 	Russian
Nationalities 	Djugashvili (Stalin) 	Georgian
Agriculture 	Protian 	Armenian
Economic Council 	Lourie (Larine) 	Jew
Food 	Schlichter 	Jew
Army & Navy 	Bronstein (Trotsky) 	Jew
State Control 	Lander 	Jew
State Lands 	Kauffman 	Jew
Works 	V. Schmidt 	Jew
Social Relief 	E. Lelina (Knigissen) 	Jewess
Public Instruction 	Lounatcharsky 	Russian
Religions 	Spitzberg 	Jew
Interior 	Apfelbaum (Zinovief) 	Jew
Hygiene 	Anvelt 	Jew
Finance 	Isidore Goukovski 	Jew
Press 	Volodarski 	Jew
Elections 	Ouritski 	Jew
Justice 	I. Steinberg 	Jew
Refugees 	Fenigstein 	Jew
Refugees (assist.) 	Savitch 	Jew
Refugees (assist.) 	Zaslovski 	Jew



 
"The following is the list of members of the Central Executive
Committee:

 
NAME 	NATIONALITY
Sverdlov (president) 	Jew
Avanessof (sec.) 	Armenian
Bruno 	Lett
Babtchinski 	Jew
Bukharin 	Russian
Weinberg 	Jew
Gailiss 	Jew
Ganzburg 	Jew
Danichevski 	Jew
Starck 	German
Sachs 	Jew
Scheinmann 	Jew
Erdling 	Jew
Landauer 	Jew
Linder 	Jew
Wolach 	Czech
Dimanstein 	Jew
Encukidze 	Georgian
Ermann 	Jew
Joffe 	Jew
Karkline 	Jew
Knigissen 	Jew
Rosenfeldt (Kamenef) 	Jew
Apfelbaum (Zinovief) 	Jew
Krylenko 	Russian
KrassikofSachs 	Jew
Kaprik 	Jew
Kaoul 	Lett
Ulyanov (lenin) 	Russian
Latsis 	Jew
Lander 	Jew
Lounatcharski 	Russian
Peterson 	Lett
Peters 	Lett
Roudzoutas 	Jew
Rosine 	Jew
Smidovitch 	Jew
Stoutchka 	Lett
Nakhamkes (Steklof) 	Jew
Sosnovski 	Jew
Skrytnik 	Jew
Bronstein (Trotsky) 	Jew
Teodorovitch 	Jew
Terian 	Armenian
Ouritski 	Jew
Telechkine 	Russian
Feldmann 	Jew
Froumkine 	Jew
Souriupa 	Ukranian
Tchavtchevadze 	Georgian
Scheikmann 	Jew
Rosental 	Jew
Achkinazi 	Imeretian
Karakhane 	Karaim (Jew)
Rose 	Jew
Sobelson (Radek) 	Jew
Sclichter 	Jew
Schikolini 	Jew
Chklianski 	Jew
Levine (Pravdine) 	Jew



 
"The following is the list of members of the Extraordinary Commission
of Moscow:

 
NAME 	NATIONALITY
Dzerjinski (president) 	Pole
Peters (vice-president) 	Lett
Chklovski 	Jew
Kheifiss 	Jew
Zeistine 	Jew
Razmirovitch 	Jew
Kronberg 	Jew
Khaikina 	Jewess
Karlson 	Lett
Schaumann 	Jew
Leontovitch 	Jew
Jacob Goldine 	Jew
Glaperstein 	Jew
Kniggisen 	Jew
Latzis 	Lett
Schillenkuss 	Jew
Janson 	Lett
Rivkine 	Jew
Antonof 	Russian
Delafabre 	Jew
Tsitkine 	Jew
Roskirovitch 	Jew
G. Sverdlof 	Jew
Biesenski 	Jew
Blioumkine 	Jew
Alexandrevitch 	Russian
I. Model 	Jew
Routenberg 	Jew
Pines 	Jew
Sachs 	Jew
Daybol 	Lett
Saissoune 	Armenian
Deylkenen 	Lett
Liebert 	Jew
Vogel 	German
Zakiss 	Lett


 
Although Lenin is described as a "Russian," in fact he was a mixture
of various nationalities. It is likely that he was one-quarter
Russian, one-quarter German, one-quarter Jewish and at least
one-quarter Kalmuck (Mongol), which accounts for his Mongol
appearance. Various authorities allege that his wife, Nadezhda
Krupskaya was a Jewess and that her family spoke Yiddish in the home.

A report sent to the British government in 1918 by Mr. Oudendyke, the
Dutch consul in St. Petersburg, said that "Bolshevism is organised and
worked by Jews." The report was included in a pamphlet published as a
government White Paper in April 1919 entitled Russia No. 1 (1919) A
Collection of Reports on Bolshevism in Russia. However, the pamphlet
was quickly withdrawn and reissued with various excisions and
alterations made.

In the War Records Division of the United States National Archives
there is filed a report from an American Intelligence operative in St.
Petersburg. Under Record Group 20; Records of the American
Expeditionary Forces Capt. Montgomery Schuyler, G2 Intelligence wrote,
"The Bolshevik movement is and has been since its beginning, guided
and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type."

Also in the U.S. National Archives are two telegrams sent by American
diplomats in Russia. State Department document 861.00/1757 sent on 2
May 1918 by U.S. Consul Summers in Moscow relates, "Jews predominant
in local Soviet government, anti-Jewish feeling growing among
population." Document 861.00/2205 from Consul Caldwell in Vladivostock
on 5 July 1918 describes, "Fifty per cent of Soviet government in each
town consists of Jews of worst type."

In January, 1924, Lenin died from causes variously described as 'a
heart attack,' brain hemorrhage' and 'syphilis.' His comrades
immediately began fighting amongst themselves to see who was to become
his successor.

A relative outsider, Joseph Stalin, came to the fore and purged all
competition either by exiling or executing them. Since Stalin was not
Jewish, yet nearly all his opponents were, it is often suggested that
Stalin was anti-Semitic. This is far from the truth.

Stalin had three wives, all of them Jewesses. The first was Ekaterina
Svanidze who bore him one son, Jacob. His second wife was Kadya
Allevijah. She bore him a son Vassili and a daughter Svetlana. His
second wife died in mysterious circumstances, either by committing
suicide or murdered by Stalin. His third wife was Rosa Kaganovich, the
sister of Lazar Kaganovich, the head of Soviet industry. Stalin's
daughter (who in 1967 fled to the USA) then married Lazar's son Mihail
i.e. her step-mother's nephew. Svetlana Stalin had a total of four
husbands, three of them Jewish.

Stalin's vice-president Molotov was also married to a Jewess, whose
brother, Sam Karp, runs an export business in Connecticut. Just to
complicate things even more, the Molotov's (half-Jewish) daughter also
called Svetlana was engaged to be married to Stalin's son Vassili.

After the death of Stalin, his successors kept up the tradition, for a
report in the B'nai B'rith Messenger relates: "To show that Russia
treats its Jews well, Soviet Premier Nikita Kruschev this week
remarked at a reception at the Polish Embassy that not only he himself
and Soviet President Klementi Voroshilov, but also half the members of
the Praesidium have Jewish wives. Mr. Kruschev made this remark to
Israeli Ambassador Joseph Avidar, who was amongst the guests."
(Kruschev's wife was yet another Kaganovitch.)

According to a report in The Canadian Jewish News of 13 November 1964
the present Soviet boss Leonid Brezhnev is married to a Jewess, and
his children are brought up as Jews. There are a number of prominent
Jews in the Soviet government, including Dimitri Dymshits in charge of
industry, Lev Shapiro regional secretary of Birobidjan, and Yuri
Andropov in charge of the secret police, the KGB. In fact, every
secret police chief in Soviet history has been a Jew, from the first
Uritsky to the most recent, the murderous Beria. A Jew is also in
charge of the Soviet economy – Leonid Kantorovich.

It is a well-known fact that the Bolsheviks were and are financed by
Jewish interests in the West.

At a Bolshevik celebration rally in New York's Carnegie Hall on the
night of 23 March 1917, a telegram of support from Jacob Schiff of
Kuhn, Loeb & Co. was read out. The telegram was reprinted in the next
morning's New York Times. Schiff later tried to deny his involvement,
but thirty years later his grandson John admitted in the New York
Journal-American (3 February 1949) that the old man had sunk twenty
million dollars into the Bolshevik cause.

Another Western bankers who poured funds into Bolshevik Russia was
Olaf Ashberg of the Stockholm Nia Banken. He remained the Soviets'
paymaster until the late 1940s. The London Evening Standard of 6
September 1948 reported a visit by Ashberg to Switzerland "for secret
meetings with Swiss government officials and banking executives.
Diplomatic circles describe Mr. Ashberg as the 'Soviet banker' who
advanced large sums to Lenin and Trotsky in 1917. At the time of the
revolution, Mr. Ashberg gave Trotsky money to form and equip the first
unit of the Red Army."

The Bolsheviks also received assistance from Armand Hammer, who still
commutes back and forward between New York and Moscow to take care of
his business interests in both communities. Hammer's Occidental Oil
Company is at the moment building a 1600 mile chemicals pipeline in
southern Russia. He is also on such good terms with the Soviets that
he personally arranges for Soviet art galleries to lend paintings to
America.

Another American-based businessman to help out the Soviet economy is
Michael Fribourg, who owns the massive Continental Grain Company.
Together with the Louis Dreyfus Corporation, these Jewish speculators
were able to buy up vast quantities of cheap American grain in 1972,
sell it to the Soviets at a vast profit, and collect an export subsidy
>from the U.S. taxpayer.

In every other East European country, it is exactly the same story:

In Hungary a Communist revolution was staged in 1919, instigated by
the Jew Bela Kun (Cohen). During the three month regime, the country
was turned upside down in a reign of murder and terror. Here again,
the government was composed almost entirely of Jews. And it was this
factor which brought about the regime's downfall, as the ordinary
Hungarians detested Jewish dictatorship. Kun was deposed and fled to
the Soviet Union, where he became chief of the secret police, the
Cheka, in southern Russia.

It was not until 1945 that the Jews were able to regain control. Three
Russian Jews were installed as the ruling triumvirate, Matyas Rakosi
(Rosencranz), Erno Gero (Singer) and Zoltan Vas. Both Rakosi and Gero
had been members of Kun's bloody government.

In Germany, the Jews also tried to take over there in the chaos that
followed the First World War. Aided by funds from the Soviet
Ambassador Joffe, Rosa Luxemburg's Spartacus Bund attempted to
overthrow the government. The revolt was quelled and its leaders
Luxemburg and Karl Liebknecht executed.

The post-war dictator of Roumania, Anna Pauker, was the daughter of a
Bucharest kosher butcher. For a time she earned her living teaching
Hebrew. her father and brother now live in Israel.

Although Tito was the only non-Jewish dictator behind the Iron Curtain
in the late 1940s, he was tutored by the Jew Mosa Pijade. According to
John Gunther in Behind the Iron Curtain, "He is Tito's mentor...
Whatever ideological structure Tito may have, he got it from the
shrewd old man."

Moscow's puppet government in Czechoslovakia in the late 1940s was run
by another Jew, Rudolph Slansky.

In Poland too, Jews occupied virtually every position of authority in
the post-war Communist regime. Prominent among these were Minc,
Skryesewski, Modzelewski and Berman. Jacob Berman gradually eclipsed
the others until he became supreme dictator by himself. Also,
Gomulka's wife was a Jewess.

Even in China, Soviet Jews were at work helping Mao Tse Tung. High up
in the Political Department of the Red Army in China were W. N.
Levitschev and J. B. Gamarnik


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On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 15:00:05 GMT, Proposition 88
 wrote:

>With even the Soviets forced to admit that it was their ZYD NKVD who did the
>murders at KATYN, why are you apologising for them?

>Historians and experts proved it was NOT the Germans!

>Were you one of the killers, or perhaps your father, uncle or?


>On Sat, 8 Jul 2006 11:54:59 -0700, "Peter Wielki"  wrote:

>>Actually, in Katyn there were Russians and Ukraninians that did the crime, 
>>as far as I know.

>>But yeah, let's blame it on JEWS!!!  Germans did it too, right Frankie?


>>"Frank Arthur"  wrote in message 
>>news:ummva2ddrk9aik6jnqimp9mseb9b5ap4g1@4ax.com...
>>> True,Just Like Vinnitsa!!

>>> The filthy ZYDS can no longer lie about KATYN and try to blame the
>>> Germans.

>>> Even the Soviets had to admit the truth, and also about Vinnitsa.

>>> No wonder around the world more and more people are starting to really
>>> dislike the filthy ZHIDS!!

>>> Latest update follows:
>>> From: "Strider" 
>>> Newsgroups:soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.israel,soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.australian,soc.culture.yugoslavia
>>> Subject: Jewish Copmmissars murdered these Poles

>>> Our shame still lies in the Katyn forest
>>> By Kevin Myers
>>> (Filed: 27/04/2003)

>>> Today Poles all over the world will commemorate the 60th anniversary of 
>>> the discovery of the war crime which didn't occur. And the
>>> non-existence of this atrocity constituted democracy's most sordid 
>>> exercise in realpolitik of the entire 20th century. The Soviet Union captured 180,000
>>> Polish soldiers during its invasion of Poland in 1939. Most were herded 
>>> off to slave-camps in Siberia, but 22,000 officers were not. In April 1940, on
>>> Stalin's orders, each was bound with barbed wire and executed with a 
>>> single shot to the head.

>>> This was a colossal undertaking: the death toll was greater than that
>>> on the most calamitous day in British military history - the Somme, July 
>>> 1, 1916.

>>> More importantly, the massacres occurred before the German invasions
>>> of France and the Low Countries. And although hundreds of Jews in Poland 
>>> had been murdered, these were improvised butcheries, essentially unrelated to 
>>> The Final Solution, which had not yet begun.

>>> So the first systematic mass murder of defenceless innocents in the
>>> Second World War was not by the Nazis, but by the Soviet Union, just over 
>>> a year before the USSR became Britain's official best friend. This shouldn't
>>> surprise us: after all, it had been the Soviets, and not the Nazis, who
>>> invented industrialised murder. From the revolution on, they freely used 
>>> the word "exterminate" of their enemies. Hitler listened; and Hitler learned, 
>>> as dictators do. Moreover, the careful murder of so many officers from a 
>>> single narrow stratum of Polish society was truly proto-genocide: its intent was 
>>> to eliminate Polish identity by the extermination of all its perceived
>>> guardians.

>>> In 1943, via two sources - through a population census within the
>>> exiled Polish community living in the USSR, and from the Germans, who had
>>> discovered the site of one of the massacres, in the woods of Katyn, 
>>> outside Smolensk - the British discovered the fate of the Polish officers. A
>>> devastating report from the British ambassador to the Polish
>>> government-in-exile, Owen O'Malley, left no doubt about the matter.

>>> The British Government's public response was to dismiss the Nazi
>>> discoveries as propaganda and tell the Polish government-in-exile to 
>>> forget Katyn and to proceed with beating the real enemy, Germany.

>>> War is war, and in peace it is impossible to replicate the fevers and
>>> the terrors it induces. So no useful moral judgment can be made about
>>> those who decided in 1943 publicly to accept lies as fact, and to conceal 
>>> the truth as regrettable but necessary strategy. But it was statecraft at its 
>>> most pusillanimous to allow those lies to become a cornerstone of the 
>>> relationship between the Western allies and the Soviet Union.

>>> That is what happened when the three leaders - Churchill, Roosevelt
>>> and Stalin - met at Teheran in November 1943. Far from berating the Soviet
>>> Leader for the massacres, the two democratic leaders propitiated him, 
>>> awarding him the Polish land he had stolen even as he seized his future murder 
>>> victims.

>>> And when Stalin jested that they should settle the German problem once and 
>>> for all by killing 50,000 German officers, Churchill merely protested sulkily, 
>>> and Roosevelt light-heartedly suggested killing only 49,000.

>>> But nobody mentioned Katyn. How was this possible? For the massacre of
>>> the Poles was surely the secret subtext to this grisly exchange, and one 
>>> by which Stalin was taking the measure of his two confreres. All three knew 
>>> of the murders, and the bodyguard of lies around them: and silently, all 
>>> three - two of them abjectly, the third triumphantly - assented to those lies.

>>> Teheran was the true nadir of international diplomacy, morally far
>>> more ignoble and strategically far more catastrophic than either Munich 
>>> five years before or Yalta a year later. And the key to Teheran was Katyn: once
>>> Stalin had got away with that, he realised he could get away with almost
>>> anything.

>>> Moreover, the fiction of Katyn took root within the Foreign Office.
>>> There, nourished on complicit cowardice and malformed in the darkness of
>>> pathological guilt, the temporary tactic of 1943 was in time to turn into 
>>> the diseased plant of enduring policy. It even caused the Callaghan Government 
>>> in the 1970s vehemently to oppose the erection of a memorial in London to the
>>> victims of Katyn.

>>> Denial, in its purest psychiatric sense, of Katyn also infused much
>>> consideration of the 20th century: how else could Roy Jenkins have
>>> written a life of Churchill without once referring to Katyn, the Great Lie 
>>> of which the prime minister was prime mover? How else could so many 
>>> historians.

>>> Norman Davies aside - simply ignore the extraordinary Western
>>> collusion in covering up communist atrocities, and the profound impact 
>>> this must have had on Kremlin thinking?

>>> On Thursday the FCO publishes a report, British reactions to the Katyn
>>> Massacre, in a belated attempt at expiation for Britain's repeated
>>> cover-ups of this terrible affair. But it cannot undo the evil of the
>>> extermination of the Polish officer corps which, far from being the 
>>> subject of a war-crimes trial, was embraced and rewarded at Teheran; 
>>> and from that  city, the communism of Katyn was soon to march forth 
>>> and conquer half the world.

>>> My thanks to you for reposting this article.
>>> A brilliant truthful piece.
>>> Ed Kadach

>>> mahdi@alahram.com wrote:
>>>>>On Sun, 19 Jul 1998 22:06:50 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>>>>>On 1 May 1998 13:08:00 +0200, Irmin@nsm.htp.org wrote:

>>>>>American Dissident Voices Broadcast of April 25, 1998

>>>>>Katyn
>>>>>by Dr. William Pierce

>>>>>A background noise that seems never to go away is the constant
>>>>>whining and yammering of the Jews about how the world owes them a
>>>>>living because of their losses during the so-called "Holocaust."
>>>>>They do it, of course, because they make such a big profit on it.
>>>>>The latest flare-up of this Jewish play for a handout came more
>>>>>than a year ago when they began demanding that the Swiss pay them
>>>>>$7 billion, which "Holocaust" victims allegedly had stashed in
>>>>>numbered Swiss accounts before being hauled off to gas chambers
>>>>>during the Second World War.

>>>>>With a few "bought" Gentile politicians fronting for them, the
>>>>>foremost among these being New York's Senator Alphonse D'Amato,
>>>>>the Jews threatened Switzerland with a boycott by the U.S.
>>>>>government if their demands were not met. Instead of laughing in
>>>>>their faces, telling the Jews to go to hell, and gearing up for
>>>>>countermeasures against Israel and other Jewish interests if the
>>>>>Jews tried to proceed with a boycott, the Swiss politicians tried
>>>>>to placate the Jews by offering to buy themoff. The Jews took the
>>>>>Swiss response as a sign of weakness and escalated their demands.

>>>>>The average Swiss citizen seems to have a little more pride than
>>>>>Switzerland's elected officials, however, and resentment against
>>>>>the Jews' extortion efforts is building in Switzerland now to the
>>>>>point that some of that country's richest Jews are wearing
>>>>>bulletproof vests whenever they must go out in public.

>>>>>In general, however, this "Holocaust"-based extortion racket
>>>>>works quite well for the Jews, and they have expanded their
>>>>>demands for World War Two reparations to include a number of
>>>>>other countries besides Switzerland. They are even whining that
>>>>>the Vatican owes them because Pope Pius XII didn't do enough to
>>>>>save them from the Germans during the war. The Jews' brazenness
>>>>>in this whole business is quite breathtaking.

>>>>>Their brazenness, of course, is justified, because by and large
>>>>>they have been getting away with it. And they have been getting
>>>>>away with it because with their media control they have been able
>>>>>to distort the general public's whole perception of what happened
>>>>>during the Second World War. They have been able to portray
>>>>>themselves as innocent victims and just about everyone else as
>>>>>persecutors and aggressors, even the people who were fighting on
>>>>>the Jewish side against the Germans during the war. For example,
>>>>>they have done quite a bit of whining that after the Red Army
>>>>>drove the Germans from Poland, the Poles took the opportunity to
>>>>>lynch hundreds of Jews in 1945 and 1946: Jews whom the Germans
>>>>>somehow had failed to get rid of during their wartime occupation
>>>>>of Poland.

>>>>>Now, why would the Poles do something like that? Why would they
>>>>>lynch the poor Jews, who had been on their side during the war?
>>>>>If you learned about the war from watching Steven Spielberg
>>>>>propaganda films and other mass-media sources, you probably
>>>>>believe that it was because of religious anti-Semitism on the
>>>>>part of the Catholic Poles. Let me tell you the real reason why
>>>>>so many Poles hated Jews after the war. It's something the
>>>>>Jew-controlled media in America have tried hard to keep covered
>>>>>up. Let me tell you about what happened in the Katyn forest
>>>>>in 1940.

>>>>>In September 1939 Poland was invaded from the west by Germany and
>>>>>from the east by the Soviet Union. The Germans wanted back the
>>>>>territory in western Poland, including the city of Danzig, which
>>>>>had been taken from them at the end of the First World War. The
>>>>>Soviets wanted eastern Poland. The Germans and the Soviets
>>>>>divided Poland between them, with the boundary running roughly
>>>>>along the River Bug.

>>>>>Britain and France, both under strong Jewish pressure, declared
>>>>>war on Germany in September 1939, ostensibly because of Germany's
>>>>>invasion of Poland. They did not declare war on the Soviet Union,
>>>>>which also had invaded Poland. In the United States and in
>>>>>western Europe, where the Jews held a deathgrip on the mass
>>>>>media, a great deal of anti-German propaganda was based on the
>>>>>German grab for Polish territory -- much of which, of course,
>>>>>actually was historically German territory -- and nothing was
>>>>>said of the Soviet occupation and annexation of eastern Poland.

>>>>>The reason for this anti-German and pro-Soviet bias by the Jewish
>>>>>media was that the Jews were riding high in the Soviet Union as
>>>>>commissars and communist party bosses under Stalin, while in
>>>>>Germany Hitler had undertaken a program since 1933 of freeing
>>>>>Germany from all Jewish influence. Jews had been weeded out of
>>>>>the media, the law, the schools, and other areas of economic and
>>>>>cultural life in Germany. Before Hitler became chancellor in 1933
>>>>>the Jews had done in Germany what they do in every country where
>>>>>they gain a foothold: they had monopolized large sections of the
>>>>>mass media and certain professions and were doing their best to
>>>>>distort German culture, German society, and the German economy
>>>>>to suit themselves. Hitler put a stop to that, and two-thirds of
>>>>>the 1933 Jewish population of Germany had emigrated by the
>>>>>invasion of Poland in September 1939. So the Jews hated Germany
>>>>>and were determined to do whatever they could to destroy her.

>>>>>For his part, Hitler hoped to avoid war with Britain and France.
>>>>>He hoped that after his quick victory in western Poland he could
>>>>>make peace with Britain and France. He was determined, however,
>>>>>to stamp out communism wherever he encountered it. Not only did
>>>>>he hate communism on ideological grounds, but he had sworn to
>>>>>fight communism when the communists in Germany betrayed his
>>>>>country at the end of the First World War. Hitler also saw the
>>>>>Soviet Union as a threat to all of Europe, and he was determined
>>>>>to break the power of that country when he could, even though
>>>>>there was an uneasy non-aggression pact between Germany and the
>>>>>Soviet Union in 1939, at the time of their partition of Poland.

>>>>>In the spring of 1941 massive troop movements and other
>>>>>developments inside the Soviet Union convinced Hitler that Stalin
>>>>>was preparing to invade the west with the Red Army, and so in
>>>>>June 1941 Hitler made a preemptive strike. German forces smashed
>>>>>through the Red Army and made rapid advances, first through
>>>>>Soviet-occupied eastern Poland and then through Ukraine and into
>>>>>Russia.

>>>>>A year and a half later, in February 1943, German forces near
>>>>>Smolensk, in western Russia, investigated reports they heard from
>>>>>Russian civilians to the effect that a large number of prisoners
>>>>>had been murdered by the Soviet secret police in the area nearly
>>>>>three years earlier. The German investigators were led by local
>>>>>Russians to a series of mounds in a wooded area known locally as
>>>>>Katyn Forest, about 10 miles west of Smolensk. The forest is
>>>>>named for a village, Katyn, which it surrounds. The forest had
>>>>>been privately owned prior to the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917,
>>>>>but after the communist takeover of Russia the area had been
>>>>>confiscated by the government and part of the forest had been
>>>>>turned over to the NKVD, the Soviet equivalent of the American
>>>>>FBI.

>>>>>The Germans began digging in the mounds in the Katyn forest and
>>>>>made a horrible discovery. They found corpse after corpse, each
>>>>>with its hands bound behind its back and a bullet hole in the
>>>>>base of its skull. They continued their excavations for more than
>>>>>a month, and eventually uncovered more than 4,000 corpses. Other
>>>>>bodies may have remained buried in other mounds, but the Germans
>>>>>had no time to dig up the whole forest. Instead they called in
>>>>>the International Red Cross and representatives of various
>>>>>neutral countries to examine their findings. They also brought in
>>>>>groups of Allied prisoners of war, including Americans, from
>>>>>prison camps in Germany to view the graves in the Katyn forest.
>>>>>They gave these international inspectors complete freedom to
>>>>>examine the exhumed bodies, permitted doctors among them to
>>>>>conduct autopsies, even allowed them to dig up other bodies from
>>>>>one of the mounds which had not been completely excavated. The
>>>>>Germans asked only that the inspectors report back truthfully to
>>>>>their own governments about their observations. And in fact, most
>>>>>of them did.

>>>>>What they reported was that the bodies were those of Polish
>>>>>military officers, along with a number of civilian cultural and
>>>>>business leaders and intellectuals -- scientists, writers, poets
>>>>>-- who had been in the portion of Poland occupied by the Soviet
>>>>>Union in September 1939. Altogether the Soviet secret police had
>>>>>rounded up some 15,000 Polish leaders in 1939 -- including nearly
>>>>>half of the entire Polish officer's corps, the half that had had
>>>>>the misfortune of being in eastern Poland at the time -- and put
>>>>>them in three concentration camps in Russia: at Starobelsk,
>>>>>Kozelsk, and Ostashkov. All of the bodies unearthed in the
>>>>>Katyn forest were of Polish leaders who had been confined at one
>>>>>of these camps: Starobelsk.

>>>>>Rounding up a country's leaders and killing them was standard
>>>>>practice for the communists. The theory was that the leaders were
>>>>>bourgeois oppressors of the working class and deserved to die. As
>>>>>egalitarians the communists did not regard the Polish officers
>>>>>and intellectuals as inherently better or more valuable human
>>>>>material than the average Polish criminal or welfare bum; the
>>>>>officers had simply used their class advantage to gain a better
>>>>>life-style for themselves. Of course, no one really believed that
>>>>>theory except the criminals and welfare bums and other resentful
>>>>>losers and ne'er-do-wells who made up the natural communist
>>>>>constituency. As a practical matter, however, killing all the
>>>>>leaders and potential leaders of a conquered people made them
>>>>>easier to govern. That's what the Marxists had done in Russia,
>>>>>Ukraine, and the Baltic countries.

>>>>>In the case of the Poles there was a bit of a diplomatic problem,
>>>>>though. The Poles supported the war Britain and France had
>>>>>declared against Germany, purportedly on their behalf, because
>>>>>they viewed that as their one hope for getting back at least the
>>>>>western part of their country. They were not happy about the
>>>>>Russians taking the eastern part of Poland, but the Russians at
>>>>>least were fellow Slavs. The thing to do was get rid of the
>>>>>Germans first and then worry about the Russians. This Polish
>>>>>strategy suited Stalin fine. But it made it desirable for him to
>>>>>avoid alienating the Poles any more than necessary. When Polish
>>>>>exiles asked about their imprisoned leaders in late 1939 and
>>>>>early 1940, the Soviet government promised that they would be
>>>>>released shortly. Meanwhile, the decision had been made to kill
>>>>>all of them. And so in April 1940 the Polish leaders were taken
>>>>>from the three camps where they had been imprisoned, trucked off
>>>>>to various liquidation sites, and murdered. The ones who had been
>>>>>imprisoned at Starobelsk all went to the NKVD area of the Katyn
>>>>>forest. After the war some of the NKVD executioners were
>>>>>interviewed in Israel and described how they had carried out the
>>>>>killings.

>>> ISRAEL REFUSED TO PROSECUTE THESE ZHID MURDERERS!!

>>>>>The Poles were driven up to the burial pits in long NKVD prison
>>>>>trucks known as "black ravens." They were pulled from the trucks
>>>>>one at a time by NKVD guards. Each Polish prisoner had his hands
>>>>>bound behind his back and then was dragged to the edge of a pit.
>>>>>There he was held by two NKVD men while a third fired a pistol
>>>>>bullet into the back of his head. Some of the officers had had
>>>>>their coats pulled over their heads to keep them from seeing what
>>>>>was happening before they were shot. Some struggled and were
>>>>>bayonetted by NKVD guards before being shot and thrown into the
>>>>>pit. When all of the officers from Starobelsk had been killed,
>>>>>some 4,400 of them, the Katyn forest burial pits were covered
>>>>>with dirt and pine trees were planted on them. The locations of
>>>>>the mass graves of the prisoners from the camps at Kozelsk and
>>>>>Ostashkov remain unknown, but none of the 15,000 Polish officers
>>>>>and intellectuals rounded up by the NKVD in September 1939 was
>>>>>seen alive after April 1940.

>>>>>The Red Cross representatives and the Allied prisoners the
>>>>>Germans brought in to examine the mass graves in the Katyn forest
>>>>>understood after their examination not only who had been killed;
>>>>>they also understood who had killed them. This was apparent not
>>>>>only from the medical estimates of the length of time the bodies
>>>>>had been buried, but also from documentary evidence on the
>>>>>bodies. Diaries, news clippings, letters, and other personal
>>>>>papers removed from the clothing of the victims all told the same
>>>>>story: the latest dates on any of these papers were from
>>>>>mid-April 1940. The Polish leaders had been killed in April 1940,
>>>>>when they were prisoners of the Soviet Union and when the Katyn
>>>>>region was under Soviet control. And this is what they reported
>>>>>back to their governments.

>>>>>So what do you think happened? Were the British and American
>>>>>governments horrified to discover that their "gallant Soviet
>>>>>ally," as the Soviet Union was referred to by the mass media, was
>>>>>a mass murderer? Did the British government, which had gone to
>>>>>war against Germany under the pretext of defending Poland, decide
>>>>>that it had made a mistake? Did anyone condemn the Soviet Union
>>>>>for this act of genocide against the Poles?

>>>>>Of course not! The Allied governments ordered their people who
>>>>>had inspected the Katyn site to keep their mouths shut, and the
>>>>>Jewish media immediately began announcing that the Germans had
>>>>>done it. A mass murder of Polish officers and intellectuals by
>>>>>the Nazis had been discovered in the Katyn forest, the New York
>>>>>Times and the rest of the Jewish media shrieked. Poor Poles!
>>>>>Wicked Germans! The war must go on to free the poor Poles and
>>>>>punish the wicked Germans. And the war did go on, killing
>>>>>millions of more Germans, British, Americans, and other
>>>>>Europeans. And the Germans were indeed punished. The Poles, of
>>>>>course, were not freed. Instead they were turned over to the
>>>>>Reds, who had butchered their leaders in the Katyn forest, and
>>>>>made to suffer under communist rule for half a century.

>>>>>The war went on after the German discovery of the mass graves in
>>>>>the Katyn forest, because its purpose from the beginning was not
>>>>>to free Poland but to destroy Germany, which had dared to free
>>>>>itself from the Jews. Roosevelt understood this. Churchill
>>>>>understood this. But the American and British people didn't
>>>>>understand it, of course, because they were lied to by the Jewish
>>>>>media and by their own governments, who in 1943 as in 1998 have
>>>>>done whatever has been politically expedient. And what has been
>>>>>politically expedient has been what the Jewish media bosses have
>>>>>decided.

>>>>>The lies about Katyn were maintained by the media for some years
>>>>>after the end of the war, because these lies meshed nicely with
>>>>>the "Holocaust" story which was making so much money for the
>>>>>Jews. Nowadays, of course, the truth about the Katyn murders is
>>>>>generally accepted by historians everywhere. You can go into
>>>>>almost any large library and read about it and even see the
>>>>>gruesome photographs that the Germans took of the Polish bodies
>>>>>they dug up. One of several authoritative books on the subject is
>>>>>J.K. Zawodny's Death in the Forest: the Story of the Katyn
>>>>>Forest Massacre, published in 1962 by the University of Notre
>>>>>Dame Press. None of this is publicized a la Steven Spielberg, of
>>>>>course, for the illumination of American television audiences. It
>>>>>still might undermine the Jews' "Holocaust" racket.

>>>>>In 1945 and 1946, although the deceived citizens of the western
>>>>>world didn't know the truth about Katyn, Polish patriots did. The
>>>>>word had gotten back to the Polish prisoners in German camps from
>>>>>the Poles the Germans had taken to examine the graves. After the
>>>>>war, when these Polish prisoners were freed, the word spread to
>>>>>other Poles. They knew that it was the communists, not the Nazis,
>>>>>who had murdered their leaders, who had beheaded their nation.

>>>>>And they knew who was behind communism, from the Jew Karl Marx,
>>>>>who had started the whole business, up to the Jewish commissars
>>>>>who lorded it over them in Soviet-occupied Poland. They knew who
>>>>>had welcomed their Soviet conquerors and then collaborated with
>>>>>those conquerors. And so it is hardly surprising that in 1945 and
>>>>>1946 a few Polish patriots organized lynchings of Jews in Poland,
>>>>>before the Reds had a chance to clamp down on all of Poland and
>>>>>suppress any further expressions of anti-communist or anti-Jewish
>>>>>feeling.

>>>>>No, the Polish dislike of Jews/ZHIDS  isn't surprising. What is
>>>>>surprising is that so few patriots in America and Britain have
>>>>>expressed their outrage against the Jews, not only for what they
>>>>>did to the Poles during and after the war, but for what they have
>>>>>done to us: lying to us and using us to wage their wars for them.
>>>>>If patriots study the Katyn story and take its lesson to heart,
>>>>>they will understand why they cannot trust either the mass media
>>>>>or any government which dances to the tune played by the media.
>>>>>Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill were as much liars and
>>>>>traitors as Bill Clinton and Tony Blair.

>>>>>Anyway, you might remember Katyn the next time you hear the Jews
>>>>>or some of their bought politicians whining about how much gold
>>>>>was stolen from them by the Swiss or how badly the Poles and the
>>>>>Germans treated them during the Second World War.

>>>>>The text above is based on a broadcast of the American Dissident
>>>>>Voices radio program sponsored by National Vanguard Books. To
>>>>>receive weekly ADV transcripts, mail: ADVlist@ListServe.com
>>>>>Write "subscribe" as the subject of your message.


First,let us kill all the lawyers! - W.Shakespeare
First, we get rid of all the politicians! - Mao tse Dung
Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled-as fertiliser!!
Me
For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website 
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION 
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - 
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the 
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

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IHR - www.ihr.org
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OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
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HOLODOMOR = ZYD/NKVD HOLOCAUST ON UKRAINIANS! Message: 
Probably the best analysis of what happened that I have read to date.

Trident

IS THERE A "SMOKING GUN" FOR THE HOLODOMOR?

PRESENTATION: By Professor Roman Serbyn Universit=E9 du Qu=E9bec =E0
Montr=E9al, Canada
The Ukrainian Holodomor and the Denial of Genocides
International Conference, Federigo Argentieri, Ph.D., Organizer
Guarini Institute, John Cabot University
Rome, Italy, Friday, November 09, 2007
Published by the Action Ukraine Report #889, Article 5
Kyiv, Ukraine, Monday, November 19, 2007

In his seminal study on genocide, Leo Kuper observed that "governments
hardly declare and document genocidal plans in the manner of the
Nazis"
[1]. Nevertheless, since modern states cannot function without large
bureaucracies and elaborate communication systems, tell-tale records
inevitably survive.

When the CPSU lost power and the Soviet empire fell apart, it was
Revealed that an elaborate paper trail of the 1932-33 famine and the Soviet
authorities' involvement in it had been preserved in party and state
archives. These documents are being slowly declassified, examined and
published[2]. Historians can now give us a fairly accurate account of
the catastrophe and ascertain the responsibility of Stalin and his
collaborators.

As a result, scholars who previously hesitated to recognize the
Genocidal character of Stalin's forced starvation of Ukrainian farmers, have
reexamined the question and readjusted their interpretations. In his
latest book, Nicolas Werth comes to the conclusion that thanks to recent
studies based on the new documents, it is now "legitimate to qualify as
genocide the cluster of actions undertaken by the Stalinist regime to punish
the
Ukrainian peasantry by famine and terror"[3].

In this paper I analyze some of the main documents that provide
smoking-gun evidence of genocide, in line with the definition of the crime
given
in the UN Convention of 1948: "acts committed with intent to destroy, in
whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such".

The key criteria in the Convention are proof of "intent" and
Identification eligible "groups". Soviet documents corroborate the accusation
against
Stalin and his closest collaborators for deliberately exterminating
Millions of Ukrainian farmers, and show that the perpetrators targeted them as
Ukrainians.

Furthermore these and other documents reveal that the genocide was not
Just against Ukrainian farmers, the focus of the attack was the Ukrainian
Nation in all its component parts and on all its territories within the
Soviet Union.

The locus of this crime was thus the Ukrainian SSR, the predominantly
Ukrainian Kuban, and the other regions of the RSFSR with sizeable
Ukrainian populations. The simultaneous decimation of Ukrainian national
elites,
especially academic, cultural and political leaders, was an integral part of
the destruction of the Ukrainian nation.

Stalin did not intend to kill all Ukrainians (nor is such an intent
Required by the Convention); his motive was to break the backbone of the
nation
By executing a sizeable percentage of the people and reducing the rest to
servile obedience, to transform them into manageable cogs of the state
mechanism. Stalin's means of destruction were varied: famine, shootings, 
exhausting forced labor.

The UN Convention does not require the establishment of motives for
genocide, but determining the reasons for the act gives an insight
into the rationale which led to crime and thus help us comprehend the
perpetrator's intent. Stalin's measures against the Ukrainians were predicated
on
his political ambitions, two of which provided the motives for the
eventual genocide[4].

The first was to extend socialism beyond the borders of the USSR. He
realized that the Bolsheviks' initial attempt to export their revolution
into Europe failed primarily because of the weakness of the Red Army.
To resume Lenin's unfinished task, Stalin needed a powerful armed force,
Backed by modern heavy industry. Industrialization had to be financed by
Exporting natural resources, especially grain, which had to be extorted from
the
farmers at the lowest cost to the state.

War communism had shown that door-to-door requisition was costly,
inefficient and politically dangerous. After the revolution, poor
farmers appropriated and divided up the land of rich landlords. As a result,
farmers lived better, ate more but sold less to the state. Marketable grain
(sold outside the village) in tsarist times was provided by the large farms
Owned by landlords and kulaks. Now new large estates had to be set up in the
Form of sovkhozy and kolkhozy. These would give the state easy access to
grain, produced by the newly enslaved peasants.

The immediate goal was not the increase of grain production (which
could be expected to fall as a result of peasant opposition), but of the
"marketable grain" to be delivered to the state. Since the main producers of
grain
Were Ukrainians farmers, who had no tradition of the Russian semi-communal
obshchina organization, they could be expected to offer stiff resistance to
forced collectivization and confiscation of the fruits of their labor.

Stalin's second ambition was to bring a permanent solution to the
National question, especially its crucial Ukrainian component. The 1926 census
Pegged the Ukrainian population at 31 million, of the Union's 147 million: 23
million in Ukraine, and 8 million in the rest of the USSR, mainly along the
Ukrainian border.

Ukrainian national revival triggered by the Russian revolution forced
Lenin to give the reconquered republic nominal autonomy in the form of a
"sovereign" republic within a Potemkin-style Soviet federation.
Subsequent policy of Ukrainization, or the local application of a general
principle of korenizatsiia (nativization), allowed Ukrainians to add real
national
content to the pretentiously misleading form of "soviet republic"[5].

The Ukrainization of education, communications and administration, not
Only in Ukraine but also in the Ukrainian regions of the RSFSR, the
de-Russification of urban centers by the influx of Ukrainian farmers,
the demands on Moscow to transfer to the republic adjacent territories
with Ukrainian population, the shifting of cultural orientation from Moscow
and to the West - all these pressures on the imperial centre could not be
ignored by the Kremlin.

 Stalin, Lenin's "magnificent Georgian" and foremost expert on the
nationalities question, understood the dangers of active nation-
building in Ukraine, in the best of times. Collectivization would only
aggravate
the situation. Over 85 % of ethnic Ukrainians were farmers and their
sudden disenfranchisement could throw the countryside into such turmoil that
not only grain production would be catastrophically reduced, but also
farmers could gain the support of the national elites in a united rebellion of
the whole republic to the spoliation of their country by Moscow.

Similar, if smaller, unrest could be expected in the Kuban' and other
ethnically Ukrainian regions of the RSFSR. In the mid-1920s Stalin had
written that the peasant question was "the basis, the quintessence, of
the national question", that "the peasantry constitutes the main army of
the national movement" and that "there is no powerful national movement
without the peasant army"[6]. The stability and even the integrity of the
Soviet empire would be threatened.

Genocide does not happen spontaneously. The targeted group is first
identified, vilified and intimidated, then it is discredited in the
eyes of the rest of the population, and only when it has been sufficiently
isolated, is it submitted to total or partial extermination. In the summer of
1929 the GPU (political police) "uncovered" a nationalist conspiracy, headed
by
prominent Ukrainian intellectuals and conducting anti-Soviet work in
villages and regional centers.

Over 700 people were arrested for, among other things, "anti-Soviet
Activity in the villages and district centers" and a show trial was held in
March 1930, appropriately staged in a Kharkiv theatre. 45 members of this
Mythical Association for the Liberation of Ukraine (SVU) were sentenced to
death or long prison terms.

Arrests and trials of other mostly fictitious groups followed:
Ukrainian National Center, Ukrainian Military Organization, etc.[7] The
condemned were former members of the former Ukrainian national governments, 
Ukrainian armed forces, Ukrainian political parties, and prominent people in
fields of education, culture and the arts.

The purpose was to terrorize the Ukrainian elites into submission and
lethargy, and thus deprive the peasants of leadership on the national
level.
It should be noted that, in connection with the less severe famine in
Russia, no parallel attack took place against Russian national elites
or the Russian culture.

Stalin's war against the peasants began in earnest towards the end of
1929.
In a two-pronged attack he ordered to "eliminate the dekulakization as a
class" and to collectivize the middle and poor peasants. Divided into
three categories, the kulaks were dispossessed and  the most dangerous were
shot.

The others were deported to the wilds of northern RSFSR, transferred
To distant regions in Ukraine, or given strips of poor land outside the
Kolkhoz near which they lived. The intention was not only to provide kolkhozes
With the confiscated land, cattle and machinery, but also to deprive the
Peasants of the more qualified leadership for their opposition to the
authorities.

During the winter of 1929-1930, 90 thousand Ukrainian households were
dekulakized, and a smaller wave more or less finished the job a year
later.
In 1934 Kossior, party boss of Ukraine, reported that 200 thousand
farms had been dekulakized in Ukraine. Out of this number of about one million
(5 members per family), several thousand were deported to the northern
parts of the RSFSR and lost to the Ukrainian nation.

Collectivization went in unison with dekulakization: a major push was
Given in early 1930. By 10 March 1930 Ukrainian kolhosps integrated 64.4% of
farmsteads with 70.9% of arable land. The operation was accomplished
with the help of some 50,000 activists, sent from Russian and Ukrainian
urban centers, with special powers to organize, punish, and terrorize.

Many poor peasants, paid for the service with confiscated goods,
participated in expropriating their richer neighbors, but many others
sympathized with the victims. Peasant rebellion swept Ukraine: in
January-March 1930, 3,190 uprisings with over 950 thousand
Participants confronted the authorities.[8]

Hundreds of fliers were picked up by the authorities with such slogans
As "Free Ukraine from Moscow rule", "Time to rise against Moscow yoke"
And others. National and peasant factors were coming together. Stalin
sounded a temporary retreat and in October of that year collectivization was
down to 29 % of households and 34 % of arable land. But the reprieve was brief
and a year later (October 1931) the figures rose to 68 % (for households)
and 72 % for arable land, with a much higher percentage in the grain-producing
steppe regions.

The effect of Stalin's revolution on the countryside was disastrous,
especially in Ukraine and the Kuban. From 1929 to 1932 the evolution
can be summarized in these four curt phrases: production down; state
procurement up; grain export up; peasant food consumption down.

Farmers' opposition to collectivization, mismanagement of collective
Farms by incompetent administrators, neglect and slaughter of farm animals
seriously hindered farming and brought down its production. Yet,
enforced obligatory state procurement increased, and in 1931, 42 % of
Ukraine's
grain harvest was turned over to the state.[9]

Kolhosps delayed or completely failed to pay out stipends for
"workday" (trudodni), and the their members had to rely on their meager and
insufficient individual plots of land and a few domestic animals for
subsistence. Undernourishment became generalized. But Stalin had
reached his goal.

Grain exports rose from below one million tons in 1929, to: 5,832,000
Tons in 1930/31 and 4,786,000 tons in 1931/32. It should be kept in mind
that one million tons could feed four to five million people for one year.
After two years of resistance and unequal struggle with the Communist
authorities, the Ukrainian elites were cowed and most of the collective and 
independent farms despoiled of all their reserves. The republic was on the 
brink of a major catastrophe.

On 26 April 1932, Stanislav Kossior, the General secretary of the
Communist Party of Ukraine, informed Stalin about "individual
Cases and even individual villages that are starving" but blamed it on
"local bungling, errors, particularly in the case of kolkhozes." And,
Lest he displease his Kremlin masters, their lieutenant in Ukraine
dismissed the tragedy with the affirmation that "all talk of famine must be
categorically discarded."[10]

Yet famine there was and on 10 June H. Petrovsky, the head of the
Ukrainian state and V. Chubar, the head of the Ukrainian government, sent
Separate letters to notify Molotov and Stalin of the appalling conditions in
the Ukrainian countryside, and to ask for help.

Chubar admitted that cases of starvation among independent and
Collective farmers had already been signaled in December and January and 
that by "March-April there were dozens and hundreds of malnourished, starving,
and swollen people and people starving to death accumulate in every
village; children and orphans abandoned by their parents appeared".

Raions and oblasts organized aid from internal resources, but were
Obliged to do this "under conditions of acute food shortage, especially
bread".
[11]
Noteworthy additional remark: "Petliurite and other anti-Soviet moods
increased."

Petrovsky's letter was even more to the point. Having just returned
>from an inspection of the countryside, he realized the catastrophic situation
of the farming population. He visited many villages and everywhere saw
multitudes of people, mainly poor and middle peasants, starving, subsisting on
surrogates.

Peasants scolded him, posed embarrassing question, reproached him,
Saying "why did you create an artificial famine, [...] why did you take away
The seed material - this did not happen even  under the old regime, why is
It necessary for Ukrainians to travel for bread [...] to non-grain
Producing territories?".

Echoing Chubar, Petrovsky reported that "because of the famine, mass
Thefts are taking place in the villages." Pointing out that grain harvest is
Still six week off, and famine will only intensify, Petrovsky ask:
"shouldn't assistance be rendered to the Ukrainian countryside in the amount
of
two or, at the very least, one and a half million poods of grain?" And he
predicted that if help is not given starvation would drive peasants to pick
unripe grain and destroy much of it.

Petrovsky's letter paints a bleak picture of the forthcoming harvest.
Since the better grain had been seized by the state, seeds of poorer quality
Were sown and scattered mores thinly. The young crops are good and the
Fields well weeded but the grain is sparse. Petrovsky was also struck by the
Large amount of unsown land. Aware of all these problems, the farmers
Complained to Petrovsky that the new grain procurements would be even more
difficult to meet than last year's. "And this may very well be so", agrees
Petrovsky.

Finally Petrovsky draws attention to the exodus of Ukrainian farmers.
They are forced to seek food beyond the republic's borders, at "the Dno
station, in the Central-Black Earth Oblast', in Belarus, and in Northern
Caucasus", where grain is more readily available, and at much lower prices.

When Petrovsky suggested that farmers band together for these
purchases, he learned that the Commissariat of Transport has drastically
reduced 
the sale of train tickets to peasants. Bewildered Ukrainian peasants needled
Petrovsky: "Why are they banning trips for grain?"

If the two Ukrainian leaders believed their pleas and warnings of
turmoil in the Ukrainian countryside would soften Moscow's position, they were
mistaken. Their effect on Stalin, Kaganovich and Molotov was just the
opposite. Writing from Moscow to Sochi, where Stalin was vacationing,
Kaganovich criticized both Ukrainian leaders, even though he admitted
That some aid would have to be given to Ukraine, and asked Stalin to decide
On the amount. Stalin's response was more brutal and more ominous of
things to come.

He condemned the hypocrisy of the two leaders, who only wanted to get
"new millions of poods[12] of grain from Moscow" and "a reduction in the
plan for grain procurement". Ukrainians must mobilize their own forces and
resources for already "Ukraine has been given more than she should get".[13]
Nevertheless, on 16 June the Politburo considered Ukraine's plea and
Granted about 8,500 tons[14], a paltry amount in comparison with the million
and a half poods requested by Petrovsky.

Politburo's niggardly "largesse" must have provoked Stalin's ire, for
in a letter to Kaganovich, Molotov and the Politburo he came back with
harsh criticism of past errors and new instructions for the coming harvest.
The Gensec blamed "mechanical equalization", which did not take into
account the ability of the kolkhozes to deliver grain, and as a result of
which,
"fertile districts in Ukraine found themselves in a state of
Impoverishment and famine, despite a fairly good harvest."[15]

This is the only known acknowledgement of the Ukrainian famine by
Stalin. He blamed regional authorities for being out of touch with the
countryside and allowing kolkhozniks to travel around the entire European 
part of the USSR demoralize "our farms with their complaints and whining."[16]

Stalin proposed the calling of a top level conference on the
organization of grain procurement and its unconditional fulfillment, and
insisted 
that personal responsibility for grain procurement be delegated to the
first secretaries of the Ukraine, the Northern Caucasus, and the other grain
producing regions. "Personal responsibility" for "unconditional fulfillment"
imposed from the top along the administrative vertikal became the
watchwords of the 1932/33 grain procurement campaign, which would result in
the
genocidal famine.

On 21 June a telegram signed by Stalin and Molotov instructed Kharkiv to
carry out "at any cost" the July-September plan for grain delivery.
Two days later, Moscow answered Ukrainian Politburo's plea for 600,000 
poods of grain with a terse resolution: "bar any additional grain deliveries
to
Ukraine."[17]

The III Conference of KP(b)U (6-10 July 1932) was devoted to the
Upcoming harvest and grain procurement. Stalin sent Molotov and Kaganovich to
The meeting  "to ensure genuinely Bolshevik decisions". Molotov informed
The audience that Moscow had lowered Ukraine's quota but was adamant that
The plan be carried out in full.[18]

Declarations from regional leaders that the farmers were starving, that much
land lay fallow, and that 100 to 200 m.poods of grain would be lost during
harvesting did not bend the resolve of Moscow's envoys.[19] The conference
adopted a resolution to carry out the plan of grain delivery "in full
and unconditionally".[20]

It was largely in response to the tense situation in Ukraine[21], and in
anticipation of new troubles in that republic that Stalin came up with
his infamous decree, dubbed by the farmers "the 5 ears of corn law".
Writing on 20 July to Kaganovich and Molotov, the Gensec complains of 
Widespread theft by "dekulakized kulaks" and others, and proposes to write 
a law, which would make theft of property belonging to collective farms equal 
to similar crimes against state property, and "punishable by a minimum of ten
years'
imprisonment, and as a rule, by death".

"All active agitators against the new collective-farm system" and
"profiteers and resellers of goods" writes Stalin, should be removed
And sent to concentration camps.[22] He also wants stricter controls over
The limited kolkhoz trade allowed by a 6 May 1932 law (kolkhozes allowed
Sell their surplus after 15 January 1933, after fulfilling the state
Procurement plan), made more liberal on 20 May 1932.[23]

A follow-up letter provides ideological explanation: in the same way
That capitalism could not triumph without first making "private property
Sacred property", socialism will not finish off capitalism "unless it
Declares public property (belonging to cooperatives, collective farms or the
state) to be sacred and inviolable".[24]

Returning to the topic on 26 July, Stalin insists on formal legality
of the proposed operations: "we must act on the basis of law ('the peasant
loves legality'), and not merely in accordance with the practice of the
OGPU, although it is clear that the OGPU's role here will not only not
Diminish but, on the contrary, will be strengthened and 'ennobled' (the OGPU
Agencies will operate 'on a lawful basis' rather than 'high-handedly')".[25]

The joint Party-State decree "On the Protection of the Property of
State Enterprises, Collective Farms and Cooperatives, and on the
Consolidation of Public (Socialist) Property" was issued on 7 August 1932. 
It became the main legal instrument used by the Soviet authorities to condemn 
millions of farmers to slow death by starvation. It repeated Stalin's
declarations
that all public property is "sacred and inviolable" and that individuals
attempting to take possession of public property should be considered
"enemies of the people".[26]

All collective farm property, whether in the field or in storage was
Decreed equal to that of state property and theft was made punishable by
execution, which could be reduced to 10-year imprisonment only under 
mitigating circumstances. Advocating withdrawal from the kolkhoz became
tantamount to treason and was punished with three to five years imprisonment 
in concentration camps. No amnesty could be applied in any of these
cases.

The decree on State property was applicable on the whole Soviet
Territory but, as Stalin's letter to Kaganovich shows, it was primarily meant
For Ukraine. Stalin thought the law was "good" and would "soon have an
impact", and ordered a draft of directives from the C.C to the party, judicial
and punitive organizations.[27] The Gensec then addressed the Ukrainian
problem.
The passage is highly revealing:

"The most important thing right now is Ukraine. Ukrainian affairs have hit
rock bottom. Things are bad with regard to the party. There is talk
that in two regions of Ukraine (it seems in the Kiev and Dnepropetrovsk
regions) about 50 raion party committees have spoken out against the
grain-procurements plan, deeming it unrealistic. It is said that the
situation in other raion party committees is no better. [...] This is
not a party but a parliament, [...]

Instead of leading the raions, Kossior kept maneuvering between the
directives of the CC VKP and the demands of the raion party committees
[...]
Things are bad with the soviets. Chubar is no leader. Things are bad
With the GPU. Redens is not up to leading the fight against the
counterrevolution
[...]. [underlined and doubly underlined in original - R.S.]"

Then Stalin brandishes the specter of Ukrainian separatism: "If we don't
undertake at once to straighten out the situation in Ukraine, we may
lose Ukraine." He reminds Kaganovich that Pilsudski and his agents are
underestimated by Redens, and Kossior. He expressed utter contempt for
the whole KP(b)U, composed of 500,000 members ("ha-ha", snickers Stalin),
harboring Pilsudski's agents and "quite a lot (yes a lot!) of rotten
elements, conscious and unconscious Petliurists".

Thinking undoubtedly of Ukraine's negative reaction to the destructive
impact the just-passed property laws will have, Stalin warns: "The
moment things get worse, these [party] elements  will waste no time opening a
front inside (and outside) the party, against the party."

Frustrated by the fact that "the Ukrainian leadership does not see
These dangers", Stalin proposes to replace Kossior with Kaganovich and
Redens with Balitsky, and eventually Chubar with Kaganovich. In this way
Stalin
Intends to transform "Ukraine as quickly as possible into a real fortress of
The USSR, a genuinely exemplary republic."

The task is urgent and calls for immediate action, for without "these and
similar measures (the economic and political strengthening of Ukraine,
above all its border raions, etc.), I repeat, we may lose Ukraine."[28]
Kaganovich agrees, of course, and accuses Ukrainian party of creating a
certain
solidarity and "a rotten sense of mutual responsibility", not only in the
middle echelons of the party, but also among its leadership.[29]

Stalin's exchange of letters with Kaganovich reveals the ambiance in
Which the policy of starvation will be implemented. The overall objective
was to maintain a high level of grain procurement. To assure this, all
challenge outside and inside the republic had to be eliminated, regardless of
the cost. Stalin's raising of the specter of Pilsudski and Petliura agents
running loose in Ukraine and infiltrating the Soviet party and state
machinery was nothing more than a scare tactic and a rallying call.

He was well aware that by the summer of 1932, the weak Polish network
And the few local collaborators had been rounded up by the GPU, which also
arrested real and imaginary followers of Petliura whom Stalin had
eliminated by assassination in 1926. Poland may have had some illusions about
a
Ukrainian insurrection in 1929-1930, but by 1932, the Poles realized
That the starving population was in no shape to revolt.

The Soviet-Polish nonaggression treaty signed on 25 July 1932 was
Ample proof of the changing relations between the two neighbors.[30] The
Pilsudski-Petliura scarecrow will continue to enjoy popularity in
Soviet propaganda. While there was no serious threat from the Poles or the
Ukrainian nationalists, a national insurrection could become a reality if
the expected famine (implied in Stalin's phrase "the moment things get
worse") could bind together the threatened middle cadres of the KP(b)U
with the surviving peasantry. To prevent this eventuality the KP(b)U had to
be purged and kept under close Moscow surveillance.

Stalin maintained that the 1932 harvest was good; historians today are
More skeptical but consider it adequate to cover Soviet Union's internal
needs.
With the state reserves from previous year, there were enough supplies
To feed every citizen of the Soviet Union.

Famine was brought about by the exorbitant amount of grain and other
agricultural products taken from the Ukrainian peasants, and the way
they were extracted. Ukraine's plan was excessive, and in spite of the
protests from Kharkiv and three successive reductions, it remained so to the
end.

Still, Ukraine delivered about a quarter of a billion poods of grain, or
over 90% of its procurement quota. [31] In addition it handed over
large quantities of meat, vegetables and other produce. Stalin insisted that
state procurement have absolute priority. Following a CC VKP(b) directive, a
KP(b)U resolution of 18 November reminded that "complete fulfillment
of the procurement plan by collective farms and the MTS constitutes their
primary obligation [...], to which all the other duties of the collective farm
must be subordinated, including the duty to set up all sorts of funds: seed
fund, forage and food supplies".[32]

Stalin was satisfied that he was achieving his goal. At a high-level
Party meeting, held on 27 November 1932, he gloated: "The party has
succeeded in replacing the 500-600 million poods of marketable grain, procured
during the period of individual peasant holdings by our present ability to
collect 1,200-1,400 m.p. of grain. It is hardly necessary to prove that
without this leap forward the country would have a famine [sic-RS], we would
not be
able to support our industry, we would not be able to feed the workers and
the Red Army."[33]

The allusion to the famine, or rather to freedom from one, was an
Obvious lie, and the reference to the feeding of the workers and the Red Army
- an overstatement; but then, Stalin's concern was not the feeding his
Subjectsb but the financing of Soviet industrialization with grain exports.

Obedience to Moscow's orders was assured in two ways: a) frequently
Repeated delegations to Ukraine and the North Caucasus Territory of Molotov
Kaganovich and other high-ranking leaders to supervise the local
authorities, and b) party discipline enforced from Moscow down the
administrative structure. At the end of October 1932, two commissions
were sent, one to Ukraine headed by Molotov, and the other to North
Caucasus Territory headed by Kaganovich.

Stalin's emissaries supervised party meetings and forced them to pass
resolutions on grain procurements, party discipline, stricter
application of the 7 August property laws, the establishment of "black lists" 
of collective farms in arrears with grain deliveries, imposition of fines,
etc. 
They also instigated purges in party organizations and administrative
structures.
Kuban' was particularly hit with the expulsion of 43 % of the 25,000
Party members, including 358 out of 716 party secretaries.[34]

In Ukraine, during November and first five days of December, the OGPU
arrested 1,230 people, including 340 heads of kolhospy while 327
Communists were brought before the courts for sabotaging state
procurements.[35]
In the 18 November resolution quoted above, the Ukrainian CC reminded the
directors
of sovkhoz of their "personal responsibility as party members and civil
servants for the fulfillment of the grain procurement".

"Personal responsibility" for the execution of instructions was a
Constant refrain in messages coming from above and became an important 
Means for forcing recalcitrant cadres to carry out the Ukrainian genocide.

Dekulakization and deportation continued, on a smaller scale and were
Mostly of political and punitive nature. Arrests, beatings, and cruelty of
All sorts abounded as before, only now the victims were weaker and less
Capable of resistance. Kolkhozes, villages and individual farmers in arrears
On state procurement were put on "black lists", lost access to state-run
stores, and could not buy such essentials as matches, kerosene, salt.

Fines amounted to a year and a quarter's worth of meat tax, without
Freeing the debtor from the unfulfilled grain procurement. "Activists" - the
City workers and their komnezam helpers searched farmers' houses and yards,
looking for the hidden grain.

There is no way of knowing what portion of the hidden grain was found
by the flying brigades of activists, but official reports state that in Kuban
they found 345,000 poods of grain in November, while searches in Ukraine
>from 1 December 1932 to 25 January 1933 yielded 1.7 million poods, in 17,000
hiding places.[36] What grain was found, was confiscated; if nothing was
discovered, they took whatever edibles were seen, leaving the family
to starve.

Peasants who could find some old religious medals or other mementos
Made of precious metals could trek to the city and exchange them at the
Torgsins (stores for foreigners) for vouchers, and then exchange them for
food.

Hardier peasants would flee their villages and seek salvation in urban
centers or in neighboring Belarus and RSFSR, where food was available.
Accounts of Ukrainian peasants overloading trains, filling stations
And wandering about Russian and Belarusian towns and countryside abound.

National and peasant questions became inextricably intertwined in
Stalin's decree of 14 December 1932, issued under the banal title "On Grain
Procurement in Ukraine, Northern Caucasus and the Western Oblast"[37].

Ukrainization was blamed for problems in grain deliveries and
Exemplary punishment was prescribed for sabotage in grain procurement: 5-10
years of concentration camp for a number of "party traitors" arrested in the
Orikhiv raion of Dnipropetrovs'k oblast of Ukraine, and deportation to the
North of the Poltavska stanytsia of Kuban in the RSFSR.

The decree made the party and government chiefs in the three grain
Producing areas personally responsible for the completion of grain procurement
By January 1933. Ukrainianization presently is carried out in Ukraine,
"without meticulous selection of the Bolshevik cadre", had allowed
bourgeois-nationalists and Petliurites to join party and state
institutions and set up their cells and organizations.

Absence of "revolutionary vigilance" by local party organizations let
"counterrevolutionary elements" become directors, accountants,
storekeepers, foremen in collective farms, members of village soviets. Similar
accusation was brought against Northern Caucasus, with supporters of the
Kuban'
Rada figuring in place of Petliurites. This gave nationalists the
opportunity to sabotage harvest and sowing campaigns and organize other
counterrevolutionary activities.

Party and Soviet authorities in Ukraine and Northern Caucasus were
Ordered to extirpate these counterrevolutionary elements, execute them or
Deport them to concentration camps, including "saboteurs with party
Membership cards in their pockets".

The verdict against Ukrainization came in two parts. In Ukraine it was
Not formally prohibited, but Stalin insisted that it resume its primary
vocation, that of promoting "correct Bolshevik implementation of
Lenin's national policy", which in fact meant integration and assimilation.

Ukrainian authorities were instructed to "expel Petliurite and other
bourgeois-nationalist elements from party and government
organizations", and "meticulously select and recruit Ukrainian Bolshevik
cadre". The
signal was thus given for rapid curtailment of Ukrainization and return to a
more
sophisticated policy of Russification.[38]

Ukrainians of Northern Caucasus fared worse. "Non-Bolshevik
'Ukrainianization', which affected nearly half of the raions in the
Northern Caucasus," and which was declared to be "at variance with the
cultural
interests of the population", was totally discontinued and replaced
with Russification.

The use of the Ukrainian language was banned in public offices of
Local administration, cooperative societies, and schools. The printing of
newspapers and magazines in the Ukrainized raions of Northern Caucasus
was to switch immediately to Russian, and preparation were to begin
immediately for the transfer in the fall of all Ukrainian schools into
Russian.

The whole Poltava stanytsia was ordered to be deported and resettled
With demobilized Russian Red Army soldiers, who would receive the abandoned
land, buildings, equipment, and cattle. In fact, 2,158 families with 9,187
members were sent out before 27 December[39] and resettled a month later with
1,826 demobilized soldiers.[40]

Together with Medvedivs'ka and Umans'ka, the three Cossack stanytsias
Saw 45,000 persons deported to the North. On 15 December, Molotov and
Stalin signed a similar ban on Ukrainization, for the rest of the previously
Ukrainized Soviet regions in the RSFSR.

Stalin's anti-Ukrainization decree reveals the extent to which the dictator
was ready to go, in sacrificing the Ukrainian nation on the altar of
great-power ambitions. There is little doubt that the ban on Ukrainization
was a sop to Russian chauvinism, especially in ethnically mixed
regions outside the Ukrainian SSR. National and social repressions reinforced
one another, even if neither was acknowledged openly.

For the next several months after the condemnation of the abuses of
Ukrainization and the Ukrainian sabotage of grain procurements, the
Ukrainian countryside passed through some of the worst moments in its
history. The litany of repressive measures is endless. 82 raions were
deprived of manufactured goods for not fulfilling their quotas of
grain deliveries.

On 19 December, Stalin orders Kaganovich and Postishev back to Ukraine
To help Kosior, Chubar and Khataevich carry out the procurement plan. On
24 December, collective farms are ordered to deliver all grain in
Fulfillment of the plan, including grain put aside for seed and food. Direct
orders to increase repressive measures, arrests and deportations increase. A
real reign of terror seizes the republic and the Kuban.

On 22 January 1933 Stalin struck another crippling blow against the
Starving Ukrainian grain growers. The new secret decree, drafted by the Gensec
himself, is perhaps the best available proof of the dictator's
genocidal intent against the Ukrainian nation. Sent to Ukraine, Belarus and
the
neighboring regions of RSFSR[41], the document calls attention to the
unrestrained exodus of peasants from the Kuban' and Ukraine to the
near-by regions of Russia and Belarus.

Central authorities are said to have no doubt that these migrants, who
pretend to search for food, are, in fact, Socialist-Revolutionaries and
agents of Poland, sent to agitate, "through the peasants", in the
northern parts of the USSR, against the kolkhoz system and the Soviet power.
Addressees are reminded that a similar movement took place the
Previous year, but the party, soviet and police authorities of Ukraine did
nothing to stop it. It must not be allowed to happen this year.

Stalin then orders the party, soviet and the repressive organs of the
Northern Caucasus and Ukraine to prevent the exodus of their peasants
To other regions of the USSR and directs them to close border crossings
between Ukraine and the Northern Caucasus.

The GPU of the Russian oblast's adjacent to the quarantined Ukrainian
And Northern Caucasus regions, and the transport section of the OGPU, are
instructed to arrest all peasants from Ukraine and North Caucasus, who
have managed to leave their territory, and, after segregating the
counter-revolutionary elements, return the others to their villages.

The next day, the Politburo of the CC KP(b)U adopted a resolution to
Carry out Moscow's orders and forwarded the directive, along with addition
instructions, for implementation by the appropriate Ukrainian
authorities.[42]

The Ukrainian branch of the OGPU was ordered to instruct all railway
stations not to sell tickets to peasants with destinations beyond the
Ukrainian borders, without formal travel permission from the raion executive
Committee or a certificate of employment from construction or industrial
enterprises.

Oblasts were told to take "resolute measures" to prevent massive
Departure of their peasants, carefully check the work of agents recruiting
Peasants for work outside Ukraine, and to urge kolhospnyky and individual
farmers not to depart without permission for other raions because they would
be
arrested there.

On 25 January, B. Sheboldaev, the party boss of the North Caucasus
Territory, issued a similar order, adding instructions on the
employment of internal forces and border troupes and the setting up of
filtration
points.[43]

Like the anti-Ukrainization decree of 14 December 1932, the 22 January
1933 directive, which closed the borders to the famished Ukrainian peasants
Was not the beginning but the culmination of processes that had started
Many moths before. Petrovsky had complained to Stalin, back in June 1932,
About the ban on train ticket for Ukrainian peasants who wanted to obtain
provisions in Russia.

Evdokimov's telegram from Rostov-on-Don, which Iagoda prepared for
Stalin's attention on 23 January 1933, details the elaborate measures taken
Since November to prevent the flight of farmers from the Northern Caucasus
Territory. Among these were roadblocks set up on the main arteries of
peasant migration.

Transport authorities had arrested 11,774 persons and another 7,534
Were incarcerated by other organs. In the same dossier, Balitsky's report
>from 22 January informed of massive exodus of peasants from Ukraine since
December.[44]

Departures were registered in 74 raions, 721 villages and 228
kolhosps. In all, 31,693 persons left: 20,129 from Kharkiv oblast', 6,576 from
the
Kyiv oblast, 3,447 from Odessa oblast, and 1,541 from Chernihiv. Of these
migrants about one third were collective farmers and two thirds
individual farmers; 128 were activists. A check at the railway junction
stations
in the Kharkiv oblast revealed a great demand for long-distance tickets: in
January 1933 16,500 such tickets were sold in Lozova station and 15,000 - in
Sumy.

In the beginning of January 1933, the GPU began to apprehend agitators
And organizers of these migrations and arrested over 500 of them. [45] As
A direct result of Stalin's borders decree of 22 January 1933, 219,460
Persons were arrested in the first six weeks of its application; some were
sent to the Goulag, others punished in other ways, while 186,588 were sent
back to their villages to face the famine.[46]

In the middle of March 1933, Kosior wrote unperturbedly to the Kremlin
That "the famine still hasn't taught many kolhospnyky a lesson".[47] In his
report from Kharkiv, dated 31 May 1933, the Italian consul general
prognosticated on the devastation of the country: "The current
disaster will bring about a preponderantly Russian colonization of Ukraine. In
a
future time, perhaps very soon, one will no longer be able to speak of a
Ukraine, or of a Ukrainian people, and thus not even of a Ukrainian problem,
Because Ukraine will have become a de facto Russian region."[48]

There can be little doubt today that the famine was not only used by the
Communist party for political purposes, but that it was actually created and
directed by Stalin and his henchmen for that purpose. The regime's
ultimate objective was to transform the backward empire into an industrial
giant and a military superpower that could export socialism abroad.

To achieve this, Stalin needed great quantities of marketable grain,
Which was to be extracted from the peasants "at any price" to the producers
but at minimal price to the state. The most expedient way was to herd the
peasants into collective farms, subject them to a direct control from the
Kremlin, and in this way ensure maximum grain deliveries to the state.

The Kremlin knew that the peasants would resist and that the
imposition of its will would result in the loss of millions of human lives,
but that
was of no concern for masters of a well-populated empire. Stalin's project
required a homogenous and docile population. Revived Ukrainian
particularism, taking advantage of the indigenization program,
reinforced national unity at the expense of cohesion of the new "fatherland of
world proletariat".

The two sources of resistance to Stalin's plans (national and social)
Became embodied in the same group - the Ukrainian farmers. Stalin decided to
sacrifice a considerable part of this group in order to eliminate the
opposition to his projects and to frighten the rest of the Ukrainian
nation into accepting the role of cogs (as he liked to call them) of the
great socialist mechanism.

The Stalin-Kaganovich discussion of the Petrovsy and Chubar letters
(June-July 1932), the "five ears of corn" law (7 August, 1932), the
condemnation of Ukrainization (14 December 1932), and the closing of
internal Soviet borders on starving Ukrainian peasants, each provide
smoking gun revelations about the genocide against the Ukrainian nation. But a
multitude of other documents now emerging from the secret archives
help us get a rounded understanding of the gigantic crime and the immeasurable
suffering of its victims.
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FOOTNOTES:
[1] Leo Kuper, Genocide. Its Politic Use in the Twentieth Century.
(Penguin,
1981), p. 35.
[2] Valerii Vasiliev & Yuri Shapoval (eds.), Komandyry velykoho
holodu.
Poizdky V. Molotova i L. Kahanovycha v Ukrainu i na Pivnichnyi Kavkaz
1932-1933 rr. Kyiv, 2001; I. Zelenin et al (eds.), Tragediia sovetskoi
derevni. Kollektivizatsiia i rasskulachivanie. Tom 3. Moskva, 2001;
Stalin I Kaganovich Perepiska 1931-1936 gg. Moskva, 2001; 
Rozsekrechena pam'iat': Holodomor 1932-1933 rokiv v Ukraini v dokumentakh 
GPU-NKVD. Kyiv,
2007;
Ruslan Pyrih (ed.), Holodomor 1932-1933 rokiv v Ukraini: dokumenty i
materialy. Kyiv, 2007.

[3] Nicolas Werth, La terreur et le d=E9sarroi: Staline et son syst=E8me.
Paris, Perrin, 2007.

[4] Discussed more fully in my article, "The Ukrainian Famine of
1932-1933 and the United Nations Convention on Genocide", in Taras Hunczak &
Roman Serbyn. Famine in Ukraine 1932-1933: Genocide by Other Means.
(Forthcoming.)

[5] For a thorough discussion of Ukrainization and its problems see
James Mace, Communism and the dilemmas of national liberation: national
Communism in Soviet Ukraine, 1918-1933. Cambride, Mass., 1983. 
See also Terry Martin, The Affirmative Action Empire. Nations and Nationalism 
in the Soviet Union, 1929-1939. Ithaca & London, 2001.

[6] J. V. Stalin, "Concerning the National Question in Yugoslavia"
Works.
Vol. 7. Moscow, 1954. Pp. 71-72.

[7] Rozsekrechena pam'iat'. Pp. 75-81.

[8] Valerii Vasil'ev & Linn Viola. Kolektyvizatsiia i selians'kyi opir
Na Ukraini (lystopad 1929-berezen' 1930). Vinnytsia, 1997. P. 91.
-
[9] Nicolas Werth, La terreur et le d=E9sarroi: Staline et son syst=E8me.
Paris, Perrin, 2007.  P. 118.

[10] Holod 1932-1933 rokiv na Ukraini:ochyma istorykiv, movoiu
dokumentiv. Kyiv, 1990. P. 148.

[11] All quotations and references to the two letters are taken from
Komandyry velykoho holodu. Pp.206-215.

[12] One pood =3D 16.36 kg; 1 ton - 61.36 poods.

[13] The Stalin-Kaganovich Correspondence 1931-1936. New Haven&
London, 2003. P. 136.

[14] For the allocation of the food aid, see Holod 1932-1933 rokiv na
Ukraini. Kyiv, 1990. P. 183, 187-188.

[15] The Stalin-Kaganovich Correspondence. P. 138 (Underlined by
Stalin).


[16] The Stalin-Kaganovich Correspondence. P. 138-139..

[17] Holod. 1990. P. 183 (doc. 63), P. 190 (doc. 68).

[18] The original plan of 410 million poods (6.7 m.t.) was lowered
twice to 356 and 274.8 million poods (5.8 m.t.; 4.5 m.t. ) but 16 November was
raised to 5.8 m.t.  Rozsekrechena pam'iat'. p. 84.

[19] For a detailed account of the deliberations see Komandyry
Velykoho holodu. Pp. 152-164

[20] See part of the resolution in Holod1932-1933 rokiv na Ukraini.
Kyiv, 1990. P. 194-198

[21] A secret OGPU report from around 20 July 1932 stated that "as for
anti-Soviet manifestations, Ukraine occupies first place". "From 1
January to 1 July 1932, 118 counterrevolutionary kulak organizations were
discovered, counting 2.479 members. In addition, along the lines of
national counterrevolution we have unmasked 35 groups with 562 members."
Tragedia, p.

421. Another secret OGPU report, dated 5 August, contains a section
"National counterrevolution (U[krainian]SSR)" which relates the
Liquidation of 8 nationalist groups, two of which consisted of former members 
Of the outlawed UKP (Ukrainian Communist Party). These people are said to
have a leftist program and conduct systematic activity among members of the
KP(b)U, arguing that the Soviet authorities are suppressing the Ukrainian
culture. In their platform, claims the report, they declare war on the Soviet
regime and Polish fascism, while in fact keeping links abroad and carrying
out directives of the Second Department of of the Polish General Staff in
Ukraine. Ibid.  p. 443.

[22] The Stalin-Kaganovich Correspondence. P. 164-165.

[23] S. Kulchytsky, Tsina "Velykoho perelomu". Kyiv, 1990. P. 296. On
23 July Stalin sent a telegram to Kaganovich demanding the restoration
And enforcement of last year's ban on transporting private bread supplies
By rail or water. Tragedia, p. 428.

[24] The Stalin-Kaganovich Correspondence. P. 166.

[25] The Stalin-Kaganovich Correspondence. P. 169.

[26] Tragedia, p. 453-454.

[27] Stalin i Kaganovich Perepiska. Pp. 273-275; The Stalin-Kaganovich
Correspondence. P. 179-181. A follow-up secret "Instruction on the
Application of the TsIK and SNK SSSR of 7 August 1932 About the
Safeguarding of State Property", signed by the Chairman and the Prosecutor of
the
Supreme Court of the USSR and the Vice-Charman of the OGPU, was sent out on 16
September to all republican and oblast authorities. Tragedia. P.
477-479.

[28] On 12 August Stalin sends a note to Kaganovich asking him to keep
secret for the moment the plan regarding Ukraine sent in the preceding
letter. Tragedia. P. 276. To stiffen Kosior's resolve, in January
1933, Stalin sent him the more resolute Postyshev as his second in command;
Redens was replaced Balitsky in February 1933.

[29] Letter of 16 Augus 1932. Stalin i Kaganovich Perepiska. P.
283-284;
Stalin-Kaganovich Correspondence. P. 183-184.

[30] Timoty Snyder, Sketches from a Secret War. New Haven, Yale
University Press. P. 104.

[31] Kosior spoke of 255 m.p. at the January plenum of the CC KP(b)U.
Holod1932-1933 rokiv na Ukraini. P. 352. 
Davies and Wheatcroft give
3,584,000 tons, or 219 millon poods, P. 478. 
Other authors give similar figures.

[32] Holod 1932-1932 rokiv na Ukraini. P. 253.

[33] Tragedia. P. 559.

[34] Davies & Wheatcroft, The Years of Hunger. P. 178.

[35] Komandyry velykoho holodu. P. 50.

[36] Komandyry velykoho holodu. P. 49; Kulchytsky, Holod 1932-1933 v
Ukraini iak henotsyd. Kyiv, 2005. P. 98

[37] Tragedia, Pp. 575-577; also in Holod 1932-1933 rokiv na Ukraini.
Pp 291-194.

[38] The Russification of Ukraine attracted the attention of the
Italian consulate in Kharkiv. "In government offices the Russian language is
Once again being used, in correspondence as well as in verbal dealings
Between employees." See the "Italian Diplomatic and Consular Dispatches",
Report to Congress. Commission on the Ukraine Famine. Washington, 1988. P.
446.

[39] G.G. Iagoda report to Stalin, 29 December 1932. Lubianka. Stalin
I VChK-GPU-OGPU-NKVD. Moskva 2003. P. 386.

[40] Nicolaas Werth, Le pouvoir sovi=E9tique et la paysannerie dans les
rapports de la police politique (1930-1934). Rapport du 27 f=E9vrier
1933.
/http:/www.ihtp.cnrs.fr/dossier_soviet_paysans/sommaire.html/

[41] Tragedia sovetskoi derevni. P. 634-635. The first English
Translation of the document appeared in Terry Martin, The Affirmative Action
Empire. Nations and Nationalism in the Soviet Union, 1923-1939. Ithaca and
London, 2001. P.p. 306-307.

[42] Volodymyr Serhiichuk. Iak nas moryly holodom. Kyiv, 2003. PP
156-158.

[43] Tragedia, p. 636-637.Sheboldaev added more precisions on the
Filtration points three days later. Ibid. P. 638.

[44] Lubianka. Stalin i VChK-GPU-OGPU-NKVD. Moskva 2003.P. 394.

[45] Lubianka. P. 392-393.

[46] N.A. Ivnitskii, Kollektivizatsiia i raskulachivanie (nachala 30-
Kh godov). Moscow, 1994. P. 204.

[47] Tragedia. P. 657.

[48] "Italian Diplomatic and Consular Dispatches. Op. cit. P. 427.

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Rome, Italy.

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Probably the best analysis of what happened that I have read to date.

Trident

IS THERE A "SMOKING GUN" FOR THE HOLODOMOR?

PRESENTATION: By Professor Roman Serbyn Universit=E9 du Qu=E9bec =E0
Montr=E9al, Canada
The Ukrainian Holodomor and the Denial of Genocides
International Conference, Federigo Argentieri, Ph.D., Organizer
Guarini Institute, John Cabot University
Rome, Italy, Friday, November 09, 2007
Published by the Action Ukraine Report #889, Article 5
Kyiv, Ukraine, Monday, November 19, 2007

In his seminal study on genocide, Leo Kuper observed that "governments
hardly declare and document genocidal plans in the manner of the
Nazis"
[1]. Nevertheless, since modern states cannot function without large
bureaucracies and elaborate communication systems, tell-tale records
inevitably survive.

When the CPSU lost power and the Soviet empire fell apart, it was
Revealed that an elaborate paper trail of the 1932-33 famine and the Soviet
authorities' involvement in it had been preserved in party and state
archives. These documents are being slowly declassified, examined and
published[2]. Historians can now give us a fairly accurate account of
the catastrophe and ascertain the responsibility of Stalin and his
collaborators.

As a result, scholars who previously hesitated to recognize the
Genocidal character of Stalin's forced starvation of Ukrainian farmers, have
reexamined the question and readjusted their interpretations. In his
latest book, Nicolas Werth comes to the conclusion that thanks to recent
studies based on the new documents, it is now "legitimate to qualify as
genocide the cluster of actions undertaken by the Stalinist regime to punish
the
Ukrainian peasantry by famine and terror"[3].

In this paper I analyze some of the main documents that provide
smoking-gun evidence of genocide, in line with the definition of the crime
given
in the UN Convention of 1948: "acts committed with intent to destroy, in
whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such".

The key criteria in the Convention are proof of "intent" and
Identification eligible "groups". Soviet documents corroborate the accusation
against
Stalin and his closest collaborators for deliberately exterminating
Millions of Ukrainian farmers, and show that the perpetrators targeted them as
Ukrainians.

Furthermore these and other documents reveal that the genocide was not
Just against Ukrainian farmers, the focus of the attack was the Ukrainian
Nation in all its component parts and on all its territories within the
Soviet Union.

The locus of this crime was thus the Ukrainian SSR, the predominantly
Ukrainian Kuban, and the other regions of the RSFSR with sizeable
Ukrainian populations. The simultaneous decimation of Ukrainian national
elites,
especially academic, cultural and political leaders, was an integral part of
the destruction of the Ukrainian nation.

Stalin did not intend to kill all Ukrainians (nor is such an intent
Required by the Convention); his motive was to break the backbone of the
nation
By executing a sizeable percentage of the people and reducing the rest to
servile obedience, to transform them into manageable cogs of the state
mechanism. Stalin's means of destruction were varied: famine, shootings, 
exhausting forced labor.

The UN Convention does not require the establishment of motives for
genocide, but determining the reasons for the act gives an insight
into the rationale which led to crime and thus help us comprehend the
perpetrator's intent. Stalin's measures against the Ukrainians were predicated
on
his political ambitions, two of which provided the motives for the
eventual genocide[4].

The first was to extend socialism beyond the borders of the USSR. He
realized that the Bolsheviks' initial attempt to export their revolution
into Europe failed primarily because of the weakness of the Red Army.
To resume Lenin's unfinished task, Stalin needed a powerful armed force,
Backed by modern heavy industry. Industrialization had to be financed by
Exporting natural resources, especially grain, which had to be extorted from
the
farmers at the lowest cost to the state.

War communism had shown that door-to-door requisition was costly,
inefficient and politically dangerous. After the revolution, poor
farmers appropriated and divided up the land of rich landlords. As a result,
farmers lived better, ate more but sold less to the state. Marketable grain
(sold outside the village) in tsarist times was provided by the large farms
Owned by landlords and kulaks. Now new large estates had to be set up in the
Form of sovkhozy and kolkhozy. These would give the state easy access to
grain, produced by the newly enslaved peasants.

The immediate goal was not the increase of grain production (which
could be expected to fall as a result of peasant opposition), but of the
"marketable grain" to be delivered to the state. Since the main producers of
grain
Were Ukrainians farmers, who had no tradition of the Russian semi-communal
obshchina organization, they could be expected to offer stiff resistance to
forced collectivization and confiscation of the fruits of their labor.

Stalin's second ambition was to bring a permanent solution to the
National question, especially its crucial Ukrainian component. The 1926 census
Pegged the Ukrainian population at 31 million, of the Union's 147 million: 23
million in Ukraine, and 8 million in the rest of the USSR, mainly along the
Ukrainian border.

Ukrainian national revival triggered by the Russian revolution forced
Lenin to give the reconquered republic nominal autonomy in the form of a
"sovereign" republic within a Potemkin-style Soviet federation.
Subsequent policy of Ukrainization, or the local application of a general
principle of korenizatsiia (nativization), allowed Ukrainians to add real
national
content to the pretentiously misleading form of "soviet republic"[5].

The Ukrainization of education, communications and administration, not
Only in Ukraine but also in the Ukrainian regions of the RSFSR, the
de-Russification of urban centers by the influx of Ukrainian farmers,
the demands on Moscow to transfer to the republic adjacent territories
with Ukrainian population, the shifting of cultural orientation from Moscow
and to the West - all these pressures on the imperial centre could not be
ignored by the Kremlin.

 Stalin, Lenin's "magnificent Georgian" and foremost expert on the
nationalities question, understood the dangers of active nation-
building in Ukraine, in the best of times. Collectivization would only
aggravate
the situation. Over 85 % of ethnic Ukrainians were farmers and their
sudden disenfranchisement could throw the countryside into such turmoil that
not only grain production would be catastrophically reduced, but also
farmers could gain the support of the national elites in a united rebellion of
the whole republic to the spoliation of their country by Moscow.

Similar, if smaller, unrest could be expected in the Kuban' and other
ethnically Ukrainian regions of the RSFSR. In the mid-1920s Stalin had
written that the peasant question was "the basis, the quintessence, of
the national question", that "the peasantry constitutes the main army of
the national movement" and that "there is no powerful national movement
without the peasant army"[6]. The stability and even the integrity of the
Soviet empire would be threatened.

Genocide does not happen spontaneously. The targeted group is first
identified, vilified and intimidated, then it is discredited in the
eyes of the rest of the population, and only when it has been sufficiently
isolated, is it submitted to total or partial extermination. In the summer of
1929 the GPU (political police) "uncovered" a nationalist conspiracy, headed
by
prominent Ukrainian intellectuals and conducting anti-Soviet work in
villages and regional centers.

Over 700 people were arrested for, among other things, "anti-Soviet
Activity in the villages and district centers" and a show trial was held in
March 1930, appropriately staged in a Kharkiv theatre. 45 members of this
Mythical Association for the Liberation of Ukraine (SVU) were sentenced to
death or long prison terms.

Arrests and trials of other mostly fictitious groups followed:
Ukrainian National Center, Ukrainian Military Organization, etc.[7] The
condemned were former members of the former Ukrainian national governments, 
Ukrainian armed forces, Ukrainian political parties, and prominent people in
fields of education, culture and the arts.

The purpose was to terrorize the Ukrainian elites into submission and
lethargy, and thus deprive the peasants of leadership on the national
level.
It should be noted that, in connection with the less severe famine in
Russia, no parallel attack took place against Russian national elites
or the Russian culture.

Stalin's war against the peasants began in earnest towards the end of
1929.
In a two-pronged attack he ordered to "eliminate the dekulakization as a
class" and to collectivize the middle and poor peasants. Divided into
three categories, the kulaks were dispossessed and  the most dangerous were
shot.

The others were deported to the wilds of northern RSFSR, transferred
To distant regions in Ukraine, or given strips of poor land outside the
Kolkhoz near which they lived. The intention was not only to provide kolkhozes
With the confiscated land, cattle and machinery, but also to deprive the
Peasants of the more qualified leadership for their opposition to the
authorities.

During the winter of 1929-1930, 90 thousand Ukrainian households were
dekulakized, and a smaller wave more or less finished the job a year
later.
In 1934 Kossior, party boss of Ukraine, reported that 200 thousand
farms had been dekulakized in Ukraine. Out of this number of about one million
(5 members per family), several thousand were deported to the northern
parts of the RSFSR and lost to the Ukrainian nation.

Collectivization went in unison with dekulakization: a major push was
Given in early 1930. By 10 March 1930 Ukrainian kolhosps integrated 64.4% of
farmsteads with 70.9% of arable land. The operation was accomplished
with the help of some 50,000 activists, sent from Russian and Ukrainian
urban centers, with special powers to organize, punish, and terrorize.

Many poor peasants, paid for the service with confiscated goods,
participated in expropriating their richer neighbors, but many others
sympathized with the victims. Peasant rebellion swept Ukraine: in
January-March 1930, 3,190 uprisings with over 950 thousand
Participants confronted the authorities.[8]

Hundreds of fliers were picked up by the authorities with such slogans
As "Free Ukraine from Moscow rule", "Time to rise against Moscow yoke"
And others. National and peasant factors were coming together. Stalin
sounded a temporary retreat and in October of that year collectivization was
down to 29 % of households and 34 % of arable land. But the reprieve was brief
and a year later (October 1931) the figures rose to 68 % (for households)
and 72 % for arable land, with a much higher percentage in the grain-producing
steppe regions.

The effect of Stalin's revolution on the countryside was disastrous,
especially in Ukraine and the Kuban. From 1929 to 1932 the evolution
can be summarized in these four curt phrases: production down; state
procurement up; grain export up; peasant food consumption down.

Farmers' opposition to collectivization, mismanagement of collective
Farms by incompetent administrators, neglect and slaughter of farm animals
seriously hindered farming and brought down its production. Yet,
enforced obligatory state procurement increased, and in 1931, 42 % of
Ukraine's
grain harvest was turned over to the state.[9]

Kolhosps delayed or completely failed to pay out stipends for
"workday" (trudodni), and the their members had to rely on their meager and
insufficient individual plots of land and a few domestic animals for
subsistence. Undernourishment became generalized. But Stalin had
reached his goal.

Grain exports rose from below one million tons in 1929, to: 5,832,000
Tons in 1930/31 and 4,786,000 tons in 1931/32. It should be kept in mind
that one million tons could feed four to five million people for one year.
After two years of resistance and unequal struggle with the Communist
authorities, the Ukrainian elites were cowed and most of the collective and 
independent farms despoiled of all their reserves. The republic was on the 
brink of a major catastrophe.

On 26 April 1932, Stanislav Kossior, the General secretary of the
Communist Party of Ukraine, informed Stalin about "individual
Cases and even individual villages that are starving" but blamed it on
"local bungling, errors, particularly in the case of kolkhozes." And,
Lest he displease his Kremlin masters, their lieutenant in Ukraine
dismissed the tragedy with the affirmation that "all talk of famine must be
categorically discarded."[10]

Yet famine there was and on 10 June H. Petrovsky, the head of the
Ukrainian state and V. Chubar, the head of the Ukrainian government, sent
Separate letters to notify Molotov and Stalin of the appalling conditions in
the Ukrainian countryside, and to ask for help.

Chubar admitted that cases of starvation among independent and
Collective farmers had already been signaled in December and January and 
that by "March-April there were dozens and hundreds of malnourished, starving,
and swollen people and people starving to death accumulate in every
village; children and orphans abandoned by their parents appeared".

Raions and oblasts organized aid from internal resources, but were
Obliged to do this "under conditions of acute food shortage, especially
bread".
[11]
Noteworthy additional remark: "Petliurite and other anti-Soviet moods
increased."

Petrovsky's letter was even more to the point. Having just returned
>from an inspection of the countryside, he realized the catastrophic situation
of the farming population. He visited many villages and everywhere saw
multitudes of people, mainly poor and middle peasants, starving, subsisting on
surrogates.

Peasants scolded him, posed embarrassing question, reproached him,
Saying "why did you create an artificial famine, [...] why did you take away
The seed material - this did not happen even  under the old regime, why is
It necessary for Ukrainians to travel for bread [...] to non-grain
Producing territories?".

Echoing Chubar, Petrovsky reported that "because of the famine, mass
Thefts are taking place in the villages." Pointing out that grain harvest is
Still six week off, and famine will only intensify, Petrovsky ask:
"shouldn't assistance be rendered to the Ukrainian countryside in the amount
of
two or, at the very least, one and a half million poods of grain?" And he
predicted that if help is not given starvation would drive peasants to pick
unripe grain and destroy much of it.

Petrovsky's letter paints a bleak picture of the forthcoming harvest.
Since the better grain had been seized by the state, seeds of poorer quality
Were sown and scattered mores thinly. The young crops are good and the
Fields well weeded but the grain is sparse. Petrovsky was also struck by the
Large amount of unsown land. Aware of all these problems, the farmers
Complained to Petrovsky that the new grain procurements would be even more
difficult to meet than last year's. "And this may very well be so", agrees
Petrovsky.

Finally Petrovsky draws attention to the exodus of Ukrainian farmers.
They are forced to seek food beyond the republic's borders, at "the Dno
station, in the Central-Black Earth Oblast', in Belarus, and in Northern
Caucasus", where grain is more readily available, and at much lower prices.

When Petrovsky suggested that farmers band together for these
purchases, he learned that the Commissariat of Transport has drastically
reduced 
the sale of train tickets to peasants. Bewildered Ukrainian peasants needled
Petrovsky: "Why are they banning trips for grain?"

If the two Ukrainian leaders believed their pleas and warnings of
turmoil in the Ukrainian countryside would soften Moscow's position, they were
mistaken. Their effect on Stalin, Kaganovich and Molotov was just the
opposite. Writing from Moscow to Sochi, where Stalin was vacationing,
Kaganovich criticized both Ukrainian leaders, even though he admitted
That some aid would have to be given to Ukraine, and asked Stalin to decide
On the amount. Stalin's response was more brutal and more ominous of
things to come.

He condemned the hypocrisy of the two leaders, who only wanted to get
"new millions of poods[12] of grain from Moscow" and "a reduction in the
plan for grain procurement". Ukrainians must mobilize their own forces and
resources for already "Ukraine has been given more than she should get".[13]
Nevertheless, on 16 June the Politburo considered Ukraine's plea and
Granted about 8,500 tons[14], a paltry amount in comparison with the million
and a half poods requested by Petrovsky.

Politburo's niggardly "largesse" must have provoked Stalin's ire, for
in a letter to Kaganovich, Molotov and the Politburo he came back with
harsh criticism of past errors and new instructions for the coming harvest.
The Gensec blamed "mechanical equalization", which did not take into
account the ability of the kolkhozes to deliver grain, and as a result of
which,
"fertile districts in Ukraine found themselves in a state of
Impoverishment and famine, despite a fairly good harvest."[15]

This is the only known acknowledgement of the Ukrainian famine by
Stalin. He blamed regional authorities for being out of touch with the
countryside and allowing kolkhozniks to travel around the entire European 
part of the USSR demoralize "our farms with their complaints and whining."[16]

Stalin proposed the calling of a top level conference on the
organization of grain procurement and its unconditional fulfillment, and
insisted 
that personal responsibility for grain procurement be delegated to the
first secretaries of the Ukraine, the Northern Caucasus, and the other grain
producing regions. "Personal responsibility" for "unconditional fulfillment"
imposed from the top along the administrative vertikal became the
watchwords of the 1932/33 grain procurement campaign, which would result in
the
genocidal famine.

On 21 June a telegram signed by Stalin and Molotov instructed Kharkiv to
carry out "at any cost" the July-September plan for grain delivery.
Two days later, Moscow answered Ukrainian Politburo's plea for 600,000 
poods of grain with a terse resolution: "bar any additional grain deliveries
to
Ukraine."[17]

The III Conference of KP(b)U (6-10 July 1932) was devoted to the
Upcoming harvest and grain procurement. Stalin sent Molotov and Kaganovich to
The meeting  "to ensure genuinely Bolshevik decisions". Molotov informed
The audience that Moscow had lowered Ukraine's quota but was adamant that
The plan be carried out in full.[18]

Declarations from regional leaders that the farmers were starving, that much
land lay fallow, and that 100 to 200 m.poods of grain would be lost during
harvesting did not bend the resolve of Moscow's envoys.[19] The conference
adopted a resolution to carry out the plan of grain delivery "in full
and unconditionally".[20]

It was largely in response to the tense situation in Ukraine[21], and in
anticipation of new troubles in that republic that Stalin came up with
his infamous decree, dubbed by the farmers "the 5 ears of corn law".
Writing on 20 July to Kaganovich and Molotov, the Gensec complains of 
Widespread theft by "dekulakized kulaks" and others, and proposes to write 
a law, which would make theft of property belonging to collective farms equal 
to similar crimes against state property, and "punishable by a minimum of ten
years'
imprisonment, and as a rule, by death".

"All active agitators against the new collective-farm system" and
"profiteers and resellers of goods" writes Stalin, should be removed
And sent to concentration camps.[22] He also wants stricter controls over
The limited kolkhoz trade allowed by a 6 May 1932 law (kolkhozes allowed
Sell their surplus after 15 January 1933, after fulfilling the state
Procurement plan), made more liberal on 20 May 1932.[23]

A follow-up letter provides ideological explanation: in the same way
That capitalism could not triumph without first making "private property
Sacred property", socialism will not finish off capitalism "unless it
Declares public property (belonging to cooperatives, collective farms or the
state) to be sacred and inviolable".[24]

Returning to the topic on 26 July, Stalin insists on formal legality
of the proposed operations: "we must act on the basis of law ('the peasant
loves legality'), and not merely in accordance with the practice of the
OGPU, although it is clear that the OGPU's role here will not only not
Diminish but, on the contrary, will be strengthened and 'ennobled' (the OGPU
Agencies will operate 'on a lawful basis' rather than 'high-handedly')".[25]

The joint Party-State decree "On the Protection of the Property of
State Enterprises, Collective Farms and Cooperatives, and on the
Consolidation of Public (Socialist) Property" was issued on 7 August 1932. 
It became the main legal instrument used by the Soviet authorities to condemn 
millions of farmers to slow death by starvation. It repeated Stalin's
declarations
that all public property is "sacred and inviolable" and that individuals
attempting to take possession of public property should be considered
"enemies of the people".[26]

All collective farm property, whether in the field or in storage was
Decreed equal to that of state property and theft was made punishable by
execution, which could be reduced to 10-year imprisonment only under 
mitigating circumstances. Advocating withdrawal from the kolkhoz became
tantamount to treason and was punished with three to five years imprisonment 
in concentration camps. No amnesty could be applied in any of these
cases.

The decree on State property was applicable on the whole Soviet
Territory but, as Stalin's letter to Kaganovich shows, it was primarily meant
For Ukraine. Stalin thought the law was "good" and would "soon have an
impact", and ordered a draft of directives from the C.C to the party, judicial
and punitive organizations.[27] The Gensec then addressed the Ukrainian
problem.
The passage is highly revealing:

"The most important thing right now is Ukraine. Ukrainian affairs have hit
rock bottom. Things are bad with regard to the party. There is talk
that in two regions of Ukraine (it seems in the Kiev and Dnepropetrovsk
regions) about 50 raion party committees have spoken out against the
grain-procurements plan, deeming it unrealistic. It is said that the
situation in other raion party committees is no better. [...] This is
not a party but a parliament, [...]

Instead of leading the raions, Kossior kept maneuvering between the
directives of the CC VKP and the demands of the raion party committees
[...]
Things are bad with the soviets. Chubar is no leader. Things are bad
With the GPU. Redens is not up to leading the fight against the
counterrevolution
[...]. [underlined and doubly underlined in original - R.S.]"

Then Stalin brandishes the specter of Ukrainian separatism: "If we don't
undertake at once to straighten out the situation in Ukraine, we may
lose Ukraine." He reminds Kaganovich that Pilsudski and his agents are
underestimated by Redens, and Kossior. He expressed utter contempt for
the whole KP(b)U, composed of 500,000 members ("ha-ha", snickers Stalin),
harboring Pilsudski's agents and "quite a lot (yes a lot!) of rotten
elements, conscious and unconscious Petliurists".

Thinking undoubtedly of Ukraine's negative reaction to the destructive
impact the just-passed property laws will have, Stalin warns: "The
moment things get worse, these [party] elements  will waste no time opening a
front inside (and outside) the party, against the party."

Frustrated by the fact that "the Ukrainian leadership does not see
These dangers", Stalin proposes to replace Kossior with Kaganovich and
Redens with Balitsky, and eventually Chubar with Kaganovich. In this way
Stalin
Intends to transform "Ukraine as quickly as possible into a real fortress of
The USSR, a genuinely exemplary republic."

The task is urgent and calls for immediate action, for without "these and
similar measures (the economic and political strengthening of Ukraine,
above all its border raions, etc.), I repeat, we may lose Ukraine."[28]
Kaganovich agrees, of course, and accuses Ukrainian party of creating a
certain
solidarity and "a rotten sense of mutual responsibility", not only in the
middle echelons of the party, but also among its leadership.[29]

Stalin's exchange of letters with Kaganovich reveals the ambiance in
Which the policy of starvation will be implemented. The overall objective
was to maintain a high level of grain procurement. To assure this, all
challenge outside and inside the republic had to be eliminated, regardless of
the cost. Stalin's raising of the specter of Pilsudski and Petliura agents
running loose in Ukraine and infiltrating the Soviet party and state
machinery was nothing more than a scare tactic and a rallying call.

He was well aware that by the summer of 1932, the weak Polish network
And the few local collaborators had been rounded up by the GPU, which also
arrested real and imaginary followers of Petliura whom Stalin had
eliminated by assassination in 1926. Poland may have had some illusions about
a
Ukrainian insurrection in 1929-1930, but by 1932, the Poles realized
That the starving population was in no shape to revolt.

The Soviet-Polish nonaggression treaty signed on 25 July 1932 was
Ample proof of the changing relations between the two neighbors.[30] The
Pilsudski-Petliura scarecrow will continue to enjoy popularity in
Soviet propaganda. While there was no serious threat from the Poles or the
Ukrainian nationalists, a national insurrection could become a reality if
the expected famine (implied in Stalin's phrase "the moment things get
worse") could bind together the threatened middle cadres of the KP(b)U
with the surviving peasantry. To prevent this eventuality the KP(b)U had to
be purged and kept under close Moscow surveillance.

Stalin maintained that the 1932 harvest was good; historians today are
More skeptical but consider it adequate to cover Soviet Union's internal
needs.
With the state reserves from previous year, there were enough supplies
To feed every citizen of the Soviet Union.

Famine was brought about by the exorbitant amount of grain and other
agricultural products taken from the Ukrainian peasants, and the way
they were extracted. Ukraine's plan was excessive, and in spite of the
protests from Kharkiv and three successive reductions, it remained so to the
end.

Still, Ukraine delivered about a quarter of a billion poods of grain, or
over 90% of its procurement quota. [31] In addition it handed over
large quantities of meat, vegetables and other produce. Stalin insisted that
state procurement have absolute priority. Following a CC VKP(b) directive, a
KP(b)U resolution of 18 November reminded that "complete fulfillment
of the procurement plan by collective farms and the MTS constitutes their
primary obligation [...], to which all the other duties of the collective farm
must be subordinated, including the duty to set up all sorts of funds: seed
fund, forage and food supplies".[32]

Stalin was satisfied that he was achieving his goal. At a high-level
Party meeting, held on 27 November 1932, he gloated: "The party has
succeeded in replacing the 500-600 million poods of marketable grain, procured
during the period of individual peasant holdings by our present ability to
collect 1,200-1,400 m.p. of grain. It is hardly necessary to prove that
without this leap forward the country would have a famine [sic-RS], we would
not be
able to support our industry, we would not be able to feed the workers and
the Red Army."[33]

The allusion to the famine, or rather to freedom from one, was an
Obvious lie, and the reference to the feeding of the workers and the Red Army
- an overstatement; but then, Stalin's concern was not the feeding his
Subjectsb but the financing of Soviet industrialization with grain exports.

Obedience to Moscow's orders was assured in two ways: a) frequently
Repeated delegations to Ukraine and the North Caucasus Territory of Molotov
Kaganovich and other high-ranking leaders to supervise the local
authorities, and b) party discipline enforced from Moscow down the
administrative structure. At the end of October 1932, two commissions
were sent, one to Ukraine headed by Molotov, and the other to North
Caucasus Territory headed by Kaganovich.

Stalin's emissaries supervised party meetings and forced them to pass
resolutions on grain procurements, party discipline, stricter
application of the 7 August property laws, the establishment of "black lists" 
of collective farms in arrears with grain deliveries, imposition of fines,
etc. 
They also instigated purges in party organizations and administrative
structures.
Kuban' was particularly hit with the expulsion of 43 % of the 25,000
Party members, including 358 out of 716 party secretaries.[34]

In Ukraine, during November and first five days of December, the OGPU
arrested 1,230 people, including 340 heads of kolhospy while 327
Communists were brought before the courts for sabotaging state
procurements.[35]
In the 18 November resolution quoted above, the Ukrainian CC reminded the
directors
of sovkhoz of their "personal responsibility as party members and civil
servants for the fulfillment of the grain procurement".

"Personal responsibility" for the execution of instructions was a
Constant refrain in messages coming from above and became an important 
Means for forcing recalcitrant cadres to carry out the Ukrainian genocide.

Dekulakization and deportation continued, on a smaller scale and were
Mostly of political and punitive nature. Arrests, beatings, and cruelty of
All sorts abounded as before, only now the victims were weaker and less
Capable of resistance. Kolkhozes, villages and individual farmers in arrears
On state procurement were put on "black lists", lost access to state-run
stores, and could not buy such essentials as matches, kerosene, salt.

Fines amounted to a year and a quarter's worth of meat tax, without
Freeing the debtor from the unfulfilled grain procurement. "Activists" - the
City workers and their komnezam helpers searched farmers' houses and yards,
looking for the hidden grain.

There is no way of knowing what portion of the hidden grain was found
by the flying brigades of activists, but official reports state that in Kuban
they found 345,000 poods of grain in November, while searches in Ukraine
>from 1 December 1932 to 25 January 1933 yielded 1.7 million poods, in 17,000
hiding places.[36] What grain was found, was confiscated; if nothing was
discovered, they took whatever edibles were seen, leaving the family
to starve.

Peasants who could find some old religious medals or other mementos
Made of precious metals could trek to the city and exchange them at the
Torgsins (stores for foreigners) for vouchers, and then exchange them for
food.

Hardier peasants would flee their villages and seek salvation in urban
centers or in neighboring Belarus and RSFSR, where food was available.
Accounts of Ukrainian peasants overloading trains, filling stations
And wandering about Russian and Belarusian towns and countryside abound.

National and peasant questions became inextricably intertwined in
Stalin's decree of 14 December 1932, issued under the banal title "On Grain
Procurement in Ukraine, Northern Caucasus and the Western Oblast"[37].

Ukrainization was blamed for problems in grain deliveries and
Exemplary punishment was prescribed for sabotage in grain procurement: 5-10
years of concentration camp for a number of "party traitors" arrested in the
Orikhiv raion of Dnipropetrovs'k oblast of Ukraine, and deportation to the
North of the Poltavska stanytsia of Kuban in the RSFSR.

The decree made the party and government chiefs in the three grain
Producing areas personally responsible for the completion of grain procurement
By January 1933. Ukrainianization presently is carried out in Ukraine,
"without meticulous selection of the Bolshevik cadre", had allowed
bourgeois-nationalists and Petliurites to join party and state
institutions and set up their cells and organizations.

Absence of "revolutionary vigilance" by local party organizations let
"counterrevolutionary elements" become directors, accountants,
storekeepers, foremen in collective farms, members of village soviets. Similar
accusation was brought against Northern Caucasus, with supporters of the
Kuban'
Rada figuring in place of Petliurites. This gave nationalists the
opportunity to sabotage harvest and sowing campaigns and organize other
counterrevolutionary activities.

Party and Soviet authorities in Ukraine and Northern Caucasus were
Ordered to extirpate these counterrevolutionary elements, execute them or
Deport them to concentration camps, including "saboteurs with party
Membership cards in their pockets".

The verdict against Ukrainization came in two parts. In Ukraine it was
Not formally prohibited, but Stalin insisted that it resume its primary
vocation, that of promoting "correct Bolshevik implementation of
Lenin's national policy", which in fact meant integration and assimilation.

Ukrainian authorities were instructed to "expel Petliurite and other
bourgeois-nationalist elements from party and government
organizations", and "meticulously select and recruit Ukrainian Bolshevik
cadre". The
signal was thus given for rapid curtailment of Ukrainization and return to a
more
sophisticated policy of Russification.[38]

Ukrainians of Northern Caucasus fared worse. "Non-Bolshevik
'Ukrainianization', which affected nearly half of the raions in the
Northern Caucasus," and which was declared to be "at variance with the
cultural
interests of the population", was totally discontinued and replaced
with Russification.

The use of the Ukrainian language was banned in public offices of
Local administration, cooperative societies, and schools. The printing of
newspapers and magazines in the Ukrainized raions of Northern Caucasus
was to switch immediately to Russian, and preparation were to begin
immediately for the transfer in the fall of all Ukrainian schools into
Russian.

The whole Poltava stanytsia was ordered to be deported and resettled
With demobilized Russian Red Army soldiers, who would receive the abandoned
land, buildings, equipment, and cattle. In fact, 2,158 families with 9,187
members were sent out before 27 December[39] and resettled a month later with
1,826 demobilized soldiers.[40]

Together with Medvedivs'ka and Umans'ka, the three Cossack stanytsias
Saw 45,000 persons deported to the North. On 15 December, Molotov and
Stalin signed a similar ban on Ukrainization, for the rest of the previously
Ukrainized Soviet regions in the RSFSR.

Stalin's anti-Ukrainization decree reveals the extent to which the dictator
was ready to go, in sacrificing the Ukrainian nation on the altar of
great-power ambitions. There is little doubt that the ban on Ukrainization
was a sop to Russian chauvinism, especially in ethnically mixed
regions outside the Ukrainian SSR. National and social repressions reinforced
one another, even if neither was acknowledged openly.

For the next several months after the condemnation of the abuses of
Ukrainization and the Ukrainian sabotage of grain procurements, the
Ukrainian countryside passed through some of the worst moments in its
history. The litany of repressive measures is endless. 82 raions were
deprived of manufactured goods for not fulfilling their quotas of
grain deliveries.

On 19 December, Stalin orders Kaganovich and Postishev back to Ukraine
To help Kosior, Chubar and Khataevich carry out the procurement plan. On
24 December, collective farms are ordered to deliver all grain in
Fulfillment of the plan, including grain put aside for seed and food. Direct
orders to increase repressive measures, arrests and deportations increase. A
real reign of terror seizes the republic and the Kuban.

On 22 January 1933 Stalin struck another crippling blow against the
Starving Ukrainian grain growers. The new secret decree, drafted by the Gensec
himself, is perhaps the best available proof of the dictator's
genocidal intent against the Ukrainian nation. Sent to Ukraine, Belarus and
the
neighboring regions of RSFSR[41], the document calls attention to the
unrestrained exodus of peasants from the Kuban' and Ukraine to the
near-by regions of Russia and Belarus.

Central authorities are said to have no doubt that these migrants, who
pretend to search for food, are, in fact, Socialist-Revolutionaries and
agents of Poland, sent to agitate, "through the peasants", in the
northern parts of the USSR, against the kolkhoz system and the Soviet power.
Addressees are reminded that a similar movement took place the
Previous year, but the party, soviet and police authorities of Ukraine did
nothing to stop it. It must not be allowed to happen this year.

Stalin then orders the party, soviet and the repressive organs of the
Northern Caucasus and Ukraine to prevent the exodus of their peasants
To other regions of the USSR and directs them to close border crossings
between Ukraine and the Northern Caucasus.

The GPU of the Russian oblast's adjacent to the quarantined Ukrainian
And Northern Caucasus regions, and the transport section of the OGPU, are
instructed to arrest all peasants from Ukraine and North Caucasus, who
have managed to leave their territory, and, after segregating the
counter-revolutionary elements, return the others to their villages.

The next day, the Politburo of the CC KP(b)U adopted a resolution to
Carry out Moscow's orders and forwarded the directive, along with addition
instructions, for implementation by the appropriate Ukrainian
authorities.[42]

The Ukrainian branch of the OGPU was ordered to instruct all railway
stations not to sell tickets to peasants with destinations beyond the
Ukrainian borders, without formal travel permission from the raion executive
Committee or a certificate of employment from construction or industrial
enterprises.

Oblasts were told to take "resolute measures" to prevent massive
Departure of their peasants, carefully check the work of agents recruiting
Peasants for work outside Ukraine, and to urge kolhospnyky and individual
farmers not to depart without permission for other raions because they would
be
arrested there.

On 25 January, B. Sheboldaev, the party boss of the North Caucasus
Territory, issued a similar order, adding instructions on the
employment of internal forces and border troupes and the setting up of
filtration
points.[43]

Like the anti-Ukrainization decree of 14 December 1932, the 22 January
1933 directive, which closed the borders to the famished Ukrainian peasants
Was not the beginning but the culmination of processes that had started
Many moths before. Petrovsky had complained to Stalin, back in June 1932,
About the ban on train ticket for Ukrainian peasants who wanted to obtain
provisions in Russia.

Evdokimov's telegram from Rostov-on-Don, which Iagoda prepared for
Stalin's attention on 23 January 1933, details the elaborate measures taken
Since November to prevent the flight of farmers from the Northern Caucasus
Territory. Among these were roadblocks set up on the main arteries of
peasant migration.

Transport authorities had arrested 11,774 persons and another 7,534
Were incarcerated by other organs. In the same dossier, Balitsky's report
>from 22 January informed of massive exodus of peasants from Ukraine since
December.[44]

Departures were registered in 74 raions, 721 villages and 228
kolhosps. In all, 31,693 persons left: 20,129 from Kharkiv oblast', 6,576 from
the
Kyiv oblast, 3,447 from Odessa oblast, and 1,541 from Chernihiv. Of these
migrants about one third were collective farmers and two thirds
individual farmers; 128 were activists. A check at the railway junction
stations
in the Kharkiv oblast revealed a great demand for long-distance tickets: in
January 1933 16,500 such tickets were sold in Lozova station and 15,000 - in
Sumy.

In the beginning of January 1933, the GPU began to apprehend agitators
And organizers of these migrations and arrested over 500 of them. [45] As
A direct result of Stalin's borders decree of 22 January 1933, 219,460
Persons were arrested in the first six weeks of its application; some were
sent to the Goulag, others punished in other ways, while 186,588 were sent
back to their villages to face the famine.[46]

In the middle of March 1933, Kosior wrote unperturbedly to the Kremlin
That "the famine still hasn't taught many kolhospnyky a lesson".[47] In his
report from Kharkiv, dated 31 May 1933, the Italian consul general
prognosticated on the devastation of the country: "The current
disaster will bring about a preponderantly Russian colonization of Ukraine. In
a
future time, perhaps very soon, one will no longer be able to speak of a
Ukraine, or of a Ukrainian people, and thus not even of a Ukrainian problem,
Because Ukraine will have become a de facto Russian region."[48]

There can be little doubt today that the famine was not only used by the
Communist party for political purposes, but that it was actually created and
directed by Stalin and his henchmen for that purpose. The regime's
ultimate objective was to transform the backward empire into an industrial
giant and a military superpower that could export socialism abroad.

To achieve this, Stalin needed great quantities of marketable grain,
Which was to be extracted from the peasants "at any price" to the producers
but at minimal price to the state. The most expedient way was to herd the
peasants into collective farms, subject them to a direct control from the
Kremlin, and in this way ensure maximum grain deliveries to the state.

The Kremlin knew that the peasants would resist and that the
imposition of its will would result in the loss of millions of human lives,
but that
was of no concern for masters of a well-populated empire. Stalin's project
required a homogenous and docile population. Revived Ukrainian
particularism, taking advantage of the indigenization program,
reinforced national unity at the expense of cohesion of the new "fatherland of
world proletariat".

The two sources of resistance to Stalin's plans (national and social)
Became embodied in the same group - the Ukrainian farmers. Stalin decided to
sacrifice a considerable part of this group in order to eliminate the
opposition to his projects and to frighten the rest of the Ukrainian
nation into accepting the role of cogs (as he liked to call them) of the
great socialist mechanism.

The Stalin-Kaganovich discussion of the Petrovsy and Chubar letters
(June-July 1932), the "five ears of corn" law (7 August, 1932), the
condemnation of Ukrainization (14 December 1932), and the closing of
internal Soviet borders on starving Ukrainian peasants, each provide
smoking gun revelations about the genocide against the Ukrainian nation. But a
multitude of other documents now emerging from the secret archives
help us get a rounded understanding of the gigantic crime and the immeasurable
suffering of its victims.
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FOOTNOTES:
[1] Leo Kuper, Genocide. Its Politic Use in the Twentieth Century.
(Penguin,
1981), p. 35.
[2] Valerii Vasiliev & Yuri Shapoval (eds.), Komandyry velykoho
holodu.
Poizdky V. Molotova i L. Kahanovycha v Ukrainu i na Pivnichnyi Kavkaz
1932-1933 rr. Kyiv, 2001; I. Zelenin et al (eds.), Tragediia sovetskoi
derevni. Kollektivizatsiia i rasskulachivanie. Tom 3. Moskva, 2001;
Stalin I Kaganovich Perepiska 1931-1936 gg. Moskva, 2001; 
Rozsekrechena pam'iat': Holodomor 1932-1933 rokiv v Ukraini v dokumentakh 
GPU-NKVD. Kyiv,
2007;
Ruslan Pyrih (ed.), Holodomor 1932-1933 rokiv v Ukraini: dokumenty i
materialy. Kyiv, 2007.

[3] Nicolas Werth, La terreur et le d=E9sarroi: Staline et son syst=E8me.
Paris, Perrin, 2007.

[4] Discussed more fully in my article, "The Ukrainian Famine of
1932-1933 and the United Nations Convention on Genocide", in Taras Hunczak &
Roman Serbyn. Famine in Ukraine 1932-1933: Genocide by Other Means.
(Forthcoming.)

[5] For a thorough discussion of Ukrainization and its problems see
James Mace, Communism and the dilemmas of national liberation: national
Communism in Soviet Ukraine, 1918-1933. Cambride, Mass., 1983. 
See also Terry Martin, The Affirmative Action Empire. Nations and Nationalism 
in the Soviet Union, 1929-1939. Ithaca & London, 2001.

[6] J. V. Stalin, "Concerning the National Question in Yugoslavia"
Works.
Vol. 7. Moscow, 1954. Pp. 71-72.

[7] Rozsekrechena pam'iat'. Pp. 75-81.

[8] Valerii Vasil'ev & Linn Viola. Kolektyvizatsiia i selians'kyi opir
Na Ukraini (lystopad 1929-berezen' 1930). Vinnytsia, 1997. P. 91.
-
[9] Nicolas Werth, La terreur et le d=E9sarroi: Staline et son syst=E8me.
Paris, Perrin, 2007.  P. 118.

[10] Holod 1932-1933 rokiv na Ukraini:ochyma istorykiv, movoiu
dokumentiv. Kyiv, 1990. P. 148.

[11] All quotations and references to the two letters are taken from
Komandyry velykoho holodu. Pp.206-215.

[12] One pood =3D 16.36 kg; 1 ton - 61.36 poods.

[13] The Stalin-Kaganovich Correspondence 1931-1936. New Haven&
London, 2003. P. 136.

[14] For the allocation of the food aid, see Holod 1932-1933 rokiv na
Ukraini. Kyiv, 1990. P. 183, 187-188.

[15] The Stalin-Kaganovich Correspondence. P. 138 (Underlined by
Stalin).


[16] The Stalin-Kaganovich Correspondence. P. 138-139..

[17] Holod. 1990. P. 183 (doc. 63), P. 190 (doc. 68).

[18] The original plan of 410 million poods (6.7 m.t.) was lowered
twice to 356 and 274.8 million poods (5.8 m.t.; 4.5 m.t. ) but 16 November was
raised to 5.8 m.t.  Rozsekrechena pam'iat'. p. 84.

[19] For a detailed account of the deliberations see Komandyry
Velykoho holodu. Pp. 152-164

[20] See part of the resolution in Holod1932-1933 rokiv na Ukraini.
Kyiv, 1990. P. 194-198

[21] A secret OGPU report from around 20 July 1932 stated that "as for
anti-Soviet manifestations, Ukraine occupies first place". "From 1
January to 1 July 1932, 118 counterrevolutionary kulak organizations were
discovered, counting 2.479 members. In addition, along the lines of
national counterrevolution we have unmasked 35 groups with 562 members."
Tragedia, p.

421. Another secret OGPU report, dated 5 August, contains a section
"National counterrevolution (U[krainian]SSR)" which relates the
Liquidation of 8 nationalist groups, two of which consisted of former members 
Of the outlawed UKP (Ukrainian Communist Party). These people are said to
have a leftist program and conduct systematic activity among members of the
KP(b)U, arguing that the Soviet authorities are suppressing the Ukrainian
culture. In their platform, claims the report, they declare war on the Soviet
regime and Polish fascism, while in fact keeping links abroad and carrying
out directives of the Second Department of of the Polish General Staff in
Ukraine. Ibid.  p. 443.

[22] The Stalin-Kaganovich Correspondence. P. 164-165.

[23] S. Kulchytsky, Tsina "Velykoho perelomu". Kyiv, 1990. P. 296. On
23 July Stalin sent a telegram to Kaganovich demanding the restoration
And enforcement of last year's ban on transporting private bread supplies
By rail or water. Tragedia, p. 428.

[24] The Stalin-Kaganovich Correspondence. P. 166.

[25] The Stalin-Kaganovich Correspondence. P. 169.

[26] Tragedia, p. 453-454.

[27] Stalin i Kaganovich Perepiska. Pp. 273-275; The Stalin-Kaganovich
Correspondence. P. 179-181. A follow-up secret "Instruction on the
Application of the TsIK and SNK SSSR of 7 August 1932 About the
Safeguarding of State Property", signed by the Chairman and the Prosecutor of
the
Supreme Court of the USSR and the Vice-Charman of the OGPU, was sent out on 16
September to all republican and oblast authorities. Tragedia. P.
477-479.

[28] On 12 August Stalin sends a note to Kaganovich asking him to keep
secret for the moment the plan regarding Ukraine sent in the preceding
letter. Tragedia. P. 276. To stiffen Kosior's resolve, in January
1933, Stalin sent him the more resolute Postyshev as his second in command;
Redens was replaced Balitsky in February 1933.

[29] Letter of 16 Augus 1932. Stalin i Kaganovich Perepiska. P.
283-284;
Stalin-Kaganovich Correspondence. P. 183-184.

[30] Timoty Snyder, Sketches from a Secret War. New Haven, Yale
University Press. P. 104.

[31] Kosior spoke of 255 m.p. at the January plenum of the CC KP(b)U.
Holod1932-1933 rokiv na Ukraini. P. 352. 
Davies and Wheatcroft give
3,584,000 tons, or 219 millon poods, P. 478. 
Other authors give similar figures.

[32] Holod 1932-1932 rokiv na Ukraini. P. 253.

[33] Tragedia. P. 559.

[34] Davies & Wheatcroft, The Years of Hunger. P. 178.

[35] Komandyry velykoho holodu. P. 50.

[36] Komandyry velykoho holodu. P. 49; Kulchytsky, Holod 1932-1933 v
Ukraini iak henotsyd. Kyiv, 2005. P. 98

[37] Tragedia, Pp. 575-577; also in Holod 1932-1933 rokiv na Ukraini.
Pp 291-194.

[38] The Russification of Ukraine attracted the attention of the
Italian consulate in Kharkiv. "In government offices the Russian language is
Once again being used, in correspondence as well as in verbal dealings
Between employees." See the "Italian Diplomatic and Consular Dispatches",
Report to Congress. Commission on the Ukraine Famine. Washington, 1988. P.
446.

[39] G.G. Iagoda report to Stalin, 29 December 1932. Lubianka. Stalin
I VChK-GPU-OGPU-NKVD. Moskva 2003. P. 386.

[40] Nicolaas Werth, Le pouvoir sovi=E9tique et la paysannerie dans les
rapports de la police politique (1930-1934). Rapport du 27 f=E9vrier
1933.
/http:/www.ihtp.cnrs.fr/dossier_soviet_paysans/sommaire.html/

[41] Tragedia sovetskoi derevni. P. 634-635. The first English
Translation of the document appeared in Terry Martin, The Affirmative Action
Empire. Nations and Nationalism in the Soviet Union, 1923-1939. Ithaca and
London, 2001. P.p. 306-307.

[42] Volodymyr Serhiichuk. Iak nas moryly holodom. Kyiv, 2003. PP
156-158.

[43] Tragedia, p. 636-637.Sheboldaev added more precisions on the
Filtration points three days later. Ibid. P. 638.

[44] Lubianka. Stalin i VChK-GPU-OGPU-NKVD. Moskva 2003.P. 394.

[45] Lubianka. P. 392-393.

[46] N.A. Ivnitskii, Kollektivizatsiia i raskulachivanie (nachala 30-
Kh godov). Moscow, 1994. P. 204.

[47] Tragedia. P. 657.

[48] "Italian Diplomatic and Consular Dispatches. Op. cit. P. 427.

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permission from Professor Federigo Argentieri, John Cabot University,
Rome, Italy.

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ADL Report: Large portion of Europeans feel ZYDs too powerful 
in business=TRUE!!

By Amiram Barkat, Haaretz Correspondent, and Haaretz Staff

A study conducted by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) among five 
European countries found rising anti-Semitism, including beliefs that ZYDs
possess too much power in business and finance, the ADL announced Monday.

"A large number of Europeans continue to be infected with anti-ZYD
attitudes, holding on to the classical anti-Semitic canards and conspiracy
theories that have dogged ZYDs through the centuries," said the 
organization in a press release.

The study, which was distributed among 2,714 adults in France, Italy,
Germany, Spain, and Poland, found that negative attitudes toward ZYDs
increased, or in some instances did not change, when compared to a 
similar study conducted in 2005.

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ZYDS/Jews and Bolshevism Which Was Controlled By Them

On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 09:55:33 -0400, in alt.revisionism
chester_field@fastmail.fm wrote:

ZYDs/Jews and Bolshevism
 
Amongst themselves, the Jews are quite candid about their sympathy for
and involvement in Bolshevism.

On 4 April 1919 the Jewish Chronicle: "There is much in the fact of
Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so many Jews are Bolshevists, in
the fact that the ideals of Bolshevism at many points are consonant
with the finest ideals of Judaism."

(Perhaps this explains why the Red Army uses a Jewish star as its
symbol?)

Probably the best-known exposé of the Jewish role in the Bolshevik
coup d'état was by Sir Winston Churchill, writing in the Illustrated
Sunday Herald of 8 February 1920. Churchill wrote "With the notable
exception of Lenin, the majority of leading figures are Jews. Moreover
the principal inspiration and the driving power comes from Jewish
leaders."

Communism was of course founded by Karl Marx whose grandfather was a
rabbi by the name of Mordeccai. Marx was given his initial
encouragement by a Communist-Zionist by the name of Moses Hess. As
founder and editor of the Rheinische Zeitung, the main organ of
leftist thought in Germany, he provided Karl Marx with his first
important platform. Later, in Brussels, he collaborated with Marx on
The German Ideology. It was Hess too who converted to Communism
Friedrich Engels, the wealthy textiles magnate who later subsidised
Marx from the profits of sweated labour in Britain and Germany.

When the Bolsheviks overthrew the short-lived democratic government in
Moscow and St. Petersburg in October 1917, it was a virtual Jewish
coup d'état. The most prominent Jewish Commissar was Trotsky, real
name Bronstein. He had been married by a rabbi in 1900, and whilst in
exile in New York he had worked for Novy Mir, described in the Church
Times (23 January 1925) as a "Yiddish newspaper."

The various reporters and diplomats who were there at the time of the
"Revolution" have given evidence as to its Jewish nature.

The widow of the Guardian's correspondent Mrs. Ariadna
Tyrkova-Williams wrote: "In the Soviet Republic all the committees and
commissaries were filled with Jews."

The most detailed description of Jewish influence in the Bolshevik
'revolution comes from Robert Wilton, the Russian correspondent of The
Times. In 1920 he published a book in French, Les Derniers Jours des
Romanofs, which gave the racial background of all the members of the
Soviet government. (This does not appear in the later English
translation, for some odd reason.) After the publication of this
monumental work, Wilton was ostracised by the press, and he died in
poverty in 1925. He reported that the Central Committee of the
Bolshevik Party was made up as follows:

 
NAME 	NATIONALITY
Bronstein (Trotsky) 	Jew
Apfelbaum (Zinovief) 	Jew
Lourie (Larine) 	Jew
Ouritski 	Jew
Volodarski 	Jew
Rosenfeldt (Kamanef) 	Jew
Smidovitch 	Jew
Sverdlof (Yankel) 	Jew
Nakhamkes (Steklof) 	Jew
Ulyanov (Lenin) 	Russian
Krylenko 	Russian
Lounatcharski 	Russian



 
"The Council of the People's Commissars comprises the following:

 
MINISTRY 	NAME 	NATIONALITY
President 	Ulyanov (Lenin) 	Russian
Foreign Affairs 	Tchitcherine 	Russian
Nationalities 	Djugashvili (Stalin) 	Georgian
Agriculture 	Protian 	Armenian
Economic Council 	Lourie (Larine) 	Jew
Food 	Schlichter 	Jew
Army & Navy 	Bronstein (Trotsky) 	Jew
State Control 	Lander 	Jew
State Lands 	Kauffman 	Jew
Works 	V. Schmidt 	Jew
Social Relief 	E. Lelina (Knigissen) 	Jewess
Public Instruction 	Lounatcharsky 	Russian
Religions 	Spitzberg 	Jew
Interior 	Apfelbaum (Zinovief) 	Jew
Hygiene 	Anvelt 	Jew
Finance 	Isidore Goukovski 	Jew
Press 	Volodarski 	Jew
Elections 	Ouritski 	Jew
Justice 	I. Steinberg 	Jew
Refugees 	Fenigstein 	Jew
Refugees (assist.) 	Savitch 	Jew
Refugees (assist.) 	Zaslovski 	Jew



 
"The following is the list of members of the Central Executive
Committee:

 
NAME 	NATIONALITY
Sverdlov (president) 	Jew
Avanessof (sec.) 	Armenian
Bruno 	Lett
Babtchinski 	Jew
Bukharin 	Russian
Weinberg 	Jew
Gailiss 	Jew
Ganzburg 	Jew
Danichevski 	Jew
Starck 	German
Sachs 	Jew
Scheinmann 	Jew
Erdling 	Jew
Landauer 	Jew
Linder 	Jew
Wolach 	Czech
Dimanstein 	Jew
Encukidze 	Georgian
Ermann 	Jew
Joffe 	Jew
Karkline 	Jew
Knigissen 	Jew
Rosenfeldt (Kamenef) 	Jew
Apfelbaum (Zinovief) 	Jew
Krylenko 	Russian
KrassikofSachs 	Jew
Kaprik 	Jew
Kaoul 	Lett
Ulyanov (lenin) 	Russian
Latsis 	Jew
Lander 	Jew
Lounatcharski 	Russian
Peterson 	Lett
Peters 	Lett
Roudzoutas 	Jew
Rosine 	Jew
Smidovitch 	Jew
Stoutchka 	Lett
Nakhamkes (Steklof) 	Jew
Sosnovski 	Jew
Skrytnik 	Jew
Bronstein (Trotsky) 	Jew
Teodorovitch 	Jew
Terian 	Armenian
Ouritski 	Jew
Telechkine 	Russian
Feldmann 	Jew
Froumkine 	Jew
Souriupa 	Ukranian
Tchavtchevadze 	Georgian
Scheikmann 	Jew
Rosental 	Jew
Achkinazi 	Imeretian
Karakhane 	Karaim (Jew)
Rose 	Jew
Sobelson (Radek) 	Jew
Sclichter 	Jew
Schikolini 	Jew
Chklianski 	Jew
Levine (Pravdine) 	Jew



 
"The following is the list of members of the Extraordinary Commission
of Moscow:

 
NAME 	NATIONALITY
Dzerjinski (president) 	Pole
Peters (vice-president) 	Lett
Chklovski 	Jew
Kheifiss 	Jew
Zeistine 	Jew
Razmirovitch 	Jew
Kronberg 	Jew
Khaikina 	Jewess
Karlson 	Lett
Schaumann 	Jew
Leontovitch 	Jew
Jacob Goldine 	Jew
Glaperstein 	Jew
Kniggisen 	Jew
Latzis 	Lett
Schillenkuss 	Jew
Janson 	Lett
Rivkine 	Jew
Antonof 	Russian
Delafabre 	Jew
Tsitkine 	Jew
Roskirovitch 	Jew
G. Sverdlof 	Jew
Biesenski 	Jew
Blioumkine 	Jew
Alexandrevitch 	Russian
I. Model 	Jew
Routenberg 	Jew
Pines 	Jew
Sachs 	Jew
Daybol 	Lett
Saissoune 	Armenian
Deylkenen 	Lett
Liebert 	Jew
Vogel 	German
Zakiss 	Lett


 
Although Lenin is described as a "Russian," in fact he was a mixture
of various nationalities. It is likely that he was one-quarter
Russian, one-quarter German, one-quarter Jewish and at least
one-quarter Kalmuck (Mongol), which accounts for his Mongol
appearance. Various authorities allege that his wife, Nadezhda
Krupskaya was a Jewess and that her family spoke Yiddish in the home.

A report sent to the British government in 1918 by Mr. Oudendyke, the
Dutch consul in St. Petersburg, said that "Bolshevism is organised and
worked by Jews." The report was included in a pamphlet published as a
government White Paper in April 1919 entitled Russia No. 1 (1919) A
Collection of Reports on Bolshevism in Russia. However, the pamphlet
was quickly withdrawn and reissued with various excisions and
alterations made.

In the War Records Division of the United States National Archives
there is filed a report from an American Intelligence operative in St.
Petersburg. Under Record Group 20; Records of the American
Expeditionary Forces Capt. Montgomery Schuyler, G2 Intelligence wrote,
"The Bolshevik movement is and has been since its beginning, guided
and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type."

Also in the U.S. National Archives are two telegrams sent by American
diplomats in Russia. State Department document 861.00/1757 sent on 2
May 1918 by U.S. Consul Summers in Moscow relates, "Jews predominant
in local Soviet government, anti-Jewish feeling growing among
population." Document 861.00/2205 from Consul Caldwell in Vladivostock
on 5 July 1918 describes, "Fifty per cent of Soviet government in each
town consists of Jews of worst type."

In January, 1924, Lenin died from causes variously described as 'a
heart attack,' brain hemorrhage' and 'syphilis.' His comrades
immediately began fighting amongst themselves to see who was to become
his successor.

A relative outsider, Joseph Stalin, came to the fore and purged all
competition either by exiling or executing them. Since Stalin was not
Jewish, yet nearly all his opponents were, it is often suggested that
Stalin was anti-Semitic. This is far from the truth.

Stalin had three wives, all of them Jewesses. The first was Ekaterina
Svanidze who bore him one son, Jacob. His second wife was Kadya
Allevijah. She bore him a son Vassili and a daughter Svetlana. His
second wife died in mysterious circumstances, either by committing
suicide or murdered by Stalin. His third wife was Rosa Kaganovich, the
sister of Lazar Kaganovich, the head of Soviet industry. Stalin's
daughter (who in 1967 fled to the USA) then married Lazar's son Mihail
i.e. her step-mother's nephew. Svetlana Stalin had a total of four
husbands, three of them Jewish.

Stalin's vice-president Molotov was also married to a Jewess, whose
brother, Sam Karp, runs an export business in Connecticut. Just to
complicate things even more, the Molotov's (half-Jewish) daughter also
called Svetlana was engaged to be married to Stalin's son Vassili.

After the death of Stalin, his successors kept up the tradition, for a
report in the B'nai B'rith Messenger relates: "To show that Russia
treats its Jews well, Soviet Premier Nikita Kruschev this week
remarked at a reception at the Polish Embassy that not only he himself
and Soviet President Klementi Voroshilov, but also half the members of
the Praesidium have Jewish wives. Mr. Kruschev made this remark to
Israeli Ambassador Joseph Avidar, who was amongst the guests."
(Kruschev's wife was yet another Kaganovitch.)

According to a report in The Canadian Jewish News of 13 November 1964
the present Soviet boss Leonid Brezhnev is married to a Jewess, and
his children are brought up as Jews. There are a number of prominent
Jews in the Soviet government, including Dimitri Dymshits in charge of
industry, Lev Shapiro regional secretary of Birobidjan, and Yuri
Andropov in charge of the secret police, the KGB. In fact, every
secret police chief in Soviet history has been a Jew, from the first
Uritsky to the most recent, the murderous Beria. A Jew is also in
charge of the Soviet economy – Leonid Kantorovich.

It is a well-known fact that the Bolsheviks were and are financed by
Jewish interests in the West.

At a Bolshevik celebration rally in New York's Carnegie Hall on the
night of 23 March 1917, a telegram of support from Jacob Schiff of
Kuhn, Loeb & Co. was read out. The telegram was reprinted in the next
morning's New York Times. Schiff later tried to deny his involvement,
but thirty years later his grandson John admitted in the New York
Journal-American (3 February 1949) that the old man had sunk twenty
million dollars into the Bolshevik cause.

Another Western bankers who poured funds into Bolshevik Russia was
Olaf Ashberg of the Stockholm Nia Banken. He remained the Soviets'
paymaster until the late 1940s. The London Evening Standard of 6
September 1948 reported a visit by Ashberg to Switzerland "for secret
meetings with Swiss government officials and banking executives.
Diplomatic circles describe Mr. Ashberg as the 'Soviet banker' who
advanced large sums to Lenin and Trotsky in 1917. At the time of the
revolution, Mr. Ashberg gave Trotsky money to form and equip the first
unit of the Red Army."

The Bolsheviks also received assistance from Armand Hammer, who still
commutes back and forward between New York and Moscow to take care of
his business interests in both communities. Hammer's Occidental Oil
Company is at the moment building a 1600 mile chemicals pipeline in
southern Russia. He is also on such good terms with the Soviets that
he personally arranges for Soviet art galleries to lend paintings to
America.

Another American-based businessman to help out the Soviet economy is
Michael Fribourg, who owns the massive Continental Grain Company.
Together with the Louis Dreyfus Corporation, these Jewish speculators
were able to buy up vast quantities of cheap American grain in 1972,
sell it to the Soviets at a vast profit, and collect an export subsidy
>from the U.S. taxpayer.

In every other East European country, it is exactly the same story:

In Hungary a Communist revolution was staged in 1919, instigated by
the Jew Bela Kun (Cohen). During the three month regime, the country
was turned upside down in a reign of murder and terror. Here again,
the government was composed almost entirely of Jews. And it was this
factor which brought about the regime's downfall, as the ordinary
Hungarians detested Jewish dictatorship. Kun was deposed and fled to
the Soviet Union, where he became chief of the secret police, the
Cheka, in southern Russia.

It was not until 1945 that the Jews were able to regain control. Three
Russian Jews were installed as the ruling triumvirate, Matyas Rakosi
(Rosencranz), Erno Gero (Singer) and Zoltan Vas. Both Rakosi and Gero
had been members of Kun's bloody government.

In Germany, the Jews also tried to take over there in the chaos that
followed the First World War. Aided by funds from the Soviet
Ambassador Joffe, Rosa Luxemburg's Spartacus Bund attempted to
overthrow the government. The revolt was quelled and its leaders
Luxemburg and Karl Liebknecht executed.

The post-war dictator of Roumania, Anna Pauker, was the daughter of a
Bucharest kosher butcher. For a time she earned her living teaching
Hebrew. her father and brother now live in Israel.

Although Tito was the only non-Jewish dictator behind the Iron Curtain
in the late 1940s, he was tutored by the Jew Mosa Pijade. According to
John Gunther in Behind the Iron Curtain, "He is Tito's mentor...
Whatever ideological structure Tito may have, he got it from the
shrewd old man."

Moscow's puppet government in Czechoslovakia in the late 1940s was run
by another Jew, Rudolph Slansky.

In Poland too, Jews occupied virtually every position of authority in
the post-war Communist regime. Prominent among these were Minc,
Skryesewski, Modzelewski and Berman. Jacob Berman gradually eclipsed
the others until he became supreme dictator by himself. Also,
Gomulka's wife was a Jewess.

Even in China, Soviet Jews were at work helping Mao Tse Tung. High up
in the Political Department of the Red Army in China were W. N.
Levitschev and J. B. Gamarnik


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On Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:14:51 -0400, in soc.culture.usa "serwad"
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ATLANTA (AP) -- An employee of Israel's consulate in Atlanta was arrested
Thursday on charges that he used the Internet to try to lure a minor into
having sex.

Yosef Sagiv Ofri was indicted by a grand jury in Columbia County yesterday.

District Attorney Daniel Craig of Augusta says the 37-year-old Ofri was
arrested at about 7:30 a.m. outside his home in DeKalb County, near Atlanta.

Craig says authorities also obtained a warrant to search Ofri's home, 
according to a statement from Craig's office.

The indictment says that Ofri used e-mail and online messages to lure a  child
>from Columbia County-about two hours east of Atlanta-for "illegal acts
relating to sodomy, aggravated sodomy, child molestation and aggravated  child
molestation."

Captain Steve Morris of the Columbia County Sheriff's office said Ofri works
for the Israeli Consulate in Atlanta.

He said officials from the consulate visited with Ofri today at the county's
detention center, where he is being held.

The Jerusalem Post reports that Ofri is a security officer with the 
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Subject: ZYD/Jew money laundering ring busted,
stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to Israel
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:58:29 -0500

U.S. Attorney General's Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District
Court for the Central District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva 
and
four other Spinka organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion
dollar tax fraud and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to
Los Angeles to Israel and elsewhere.

http://www.jewishjournal.com/home/preview.php?id=18767

2008-01-11

The Spinka money trail -- and the informant who brought them down

By Amy Klein, Religion Editor

Spinka defendants and supporters as they cross the street to the federal
courthouse in downtown Los Angeles on Dec. 31, 2007. Courthouse photos by
Dan Kacvinski

The first snow flutters hesitantly in Brooklyn. Men wearing fur streimel
hats and women wearing sheitls walk briskly past the corner of 15th Avenue
and 58th Street in Boro Park as if nothing extraordinary has happened here.

And why not? The kosher shops of this self-contained ultra-Orthodox
neighborhood -- practically a city onto itself -- are still a few blocks
down, and here on this bleak corner, there are only three orange school
buses parked in front of a four-story, dark-red brick building, which sits
on a residential street, where tall, narrow houses nearly overlap. The
structure (photo below) is rather nondescript and unimposing -- garbage 
bags
are piled haphazardly by a front gate, bars protect the windows, young boys
can be heard chanting from behind the locked door and a white sign with sky
blue Hebrew lettering reads: "Yeshiva Imrei Yosef Spinka."


A buzzer sounds. The door opens. No one asks who rang the bell. Up the four
steps, a reception window sits empty. Hazy yellow fluorescent lights
illuminate the narrow hallways adorned with graying yellow paint and frayed
industrial carpeting. If there are millions -- or even thousands -- of
dollars going to the Spinka yeshiva, it certainly doesn't seem like it's
coming here.

This despite the fact that on Dec. 19, 2007, the U.S. Attorney General's
Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District Court for the Central
District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva and four other Spinka
organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion dollar tax fraud
and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to
Israel and elsewhere.

Two of those indicted are Rabbi Naftali Tzi Weisz, 59, the Grand Rabbi of
Spinka, a Brooklyn-based Chasidic sect, whose yeshiva is in this
undistinguished building, and his gabbai (assistant), Moshe Zigelman, 60.

Weisz is just one of a number of Grand Rebbes of Spinka, a Chasidic sect
that originated in Romania in the 19th century. He is the
great-great-grandson of the founding rabbi, and one of about a dozen Grand
Spinka Rebbes who live in Boro Park or Williamsburg, in Brooklyn, or Bnei
Brak and Jerusalem in Israel.

Four Los Angeles men were among those charged with taking part in the
scheme: Yaacov (Yankel) Zeivald, 43, a self-described scribe (sofer) from
Valley Village (photo, right); Yosef Nachum Naiman, 55, the owner of Shatz
Et Naiman, d.b.a. Jerusalem Tours; Alan Jay Friedman, 43, a businessman 
from
Pico-Robertson who sits on the board of the Orthodox Union; and Moshe 
Lazar,
60, owner of Lazar Diamonds, a Los Angeles jewelry company.

Although many of the details of the case have not yet been revealed -- a
trial date is set for Feb. 12, but the defendants' lawyers say it will be
postponed at least a year -- what is emerging from the indictment, the
search warrant and other documents of public record is a complex
money-laundering scheme. According to the documents, people donated money 
to
the Spinka institutions but then received 80 percent to 95 percent of their
donations back, yet wrote off the full amount on their taxes.

These charges are just the beginning of a much larger case, Daniel J.
O'Brien, an assistant U.S. attorney in the major frauds section, based in
Los Angeles, said in an interview with The Journal.

"There were many other people that contributed in this fashion that would 
be
the subject of government investigations," O'Brien said.

While O'Brien said he has documentation that the Spinka institutions took 
in
about $750,000 through the scheme -- then writing receipts for $8.7
million -- in 2007 alone, the assistant U.S. attorney believes the fraud 
has
been going on for decades: "I believe this goes on beyond living memory,"
possibly for generations.

This is certainly not the first time an ultra-Orthodox sect has been 
accused
of attempting to break the laws of the secular government -- aramos, or
schemes, were perpetrated over the centuries in the shtetls of Europe. In
the last decade, arrests have occurred in religious communities in 
Brooklyn,
Lakewood, N.J., and upstate New York.

However, this particular case has shocked Los Angeles' ultra-Orthodox
community, not only because Los Angeles had largely been exempt from such
cases in the past, but also because some of the city's prominent members
have been charged as being at the center of the scheme.

As a result, the case has sparked a fierce debate about the type of 
behavior
that is acceptable for observant people and what type of religious 
community
Los Angeles would like to be. But there's also debate about the laws of a
moser, an informant, because one person who was not charged was the primary
source of information for the federal case -- though he allegedly started
out as one of the perpetrators.



THE BEGINNING

On June 29, 2004, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission filed civil
fraud charges against Robert A. Kasirer and four executives of Heritage
Healthcare of America, which sold $131 million in bonds to 1,800 investors
in 36 states from 1996-1999, claiming that the money would be used to fund
10 health care facilities. In October of that year, Kasirer approached the
federal government and "expressed a desire to plead guilty to criminal
charges arising out of the investigation and agreed to reveal other 
criminal
conduct he and others had committed, with a view that any sentence he might
receive would be reduced," according to an affidavit for a search warrant
submitted by FBI Special Agent Ryan Heaton on Dec. 18, 2007.

Although the search warrant affidavit identifies Kasirer only as
"confidential witness (CW-1)" and the recent grand jury indictment refers 
to
a witness named only as RK, the companies in the affidavit attributed to
CW-1 and RK are run by Kasirer, and several members of the Los Angeles
community, who asked for confidentiality, have confirmed his involvement.

In 2004, under federal surveillance, the informant identified in the
transcript as CW-1 resumed activities he admitted to having conducted with
the Spinka since 1990, in which "he caused several million dollars in
contributions to be mailed to the tax-exempt organizations operating within
the umbrella of Spinka," he is quoted in federal documents as having told
the FBI.

As part of the scam, Weisz and Zigelman allegedly would return 80 to 95
percent of Kasirer's contributions.

On Oct. 31, 2007, the SEC issued a final judgment against Kasirer, ordering
him to pay $4,991,434.

"Kasirer consented to the entry of the final judgment without admitting or
denying the allegations contained in the commission's case," according to
the SEC enforcement proceedings.

In the interim, according to the transcripts, Kasirer began to wear a 
device
to record his interactions for the government. On Dec. 20, 2004, he told
Zigelman, the Spinka rebbe's gabbai, that he never intended to pay the SEC.

According to the wiretapped transcripts, Kasirer told Zigelman: "The SEC
investigation is done. But they want me to pay them a lot of money."

"How much?" Zigelman asked.

"Possibly one, one and a half," Kasirer said.

"Million?" Zigelman asked.

Kasirer confirmed the amount and said he had told the SEC he didn't have 
the
money. In the transcript, Kasirer then went on to say that he'd lied to the
SEC, and that, in fact he had the money but wanted to hide that fact.

"What is SEC?" Zigelman asked.

Kasirer explained, and Zigelman replied, "Yes, yes, but you don't have to
give it to them."

For the next three years, Kasirer recorded conversations with targets of 
the
government investigation, and, using government funds, conducted a dozen
monetary transactions with Zigelman, according to transcripts of
conversations conducted in English, Hebrew, Yiddish and Hungarian. The
government also tapped the phones of Zigelman and Weisz.



CASH OR CHARGE?

For Kasirer, there were two ways the operation worked: At first he
reportedly received his "donations" back in cash, and when he became
uncomfortable with the large cash amounts floating around, he set up an
Israeli account.

According to the transcripts, Kasirer's money was allegedly refunded to him
by various men, all now defendants in the case: Naiman, Zeivald, Friedman
and Lazar, all of whom have pleaded not guilty to the charges against them.

Among the transactions in the transcripts, for example, was one on Feb. 8,
2007. Kasirer FedEx-ed a check for $20,000 made out to Yeshiva Imrei Yosef
to Zigelman. On Feb. 15, 2007, Lazar delivered $18,600 to Kasirer's house.
On Feb. 22, 2007, Kasirer got a letter in the mail on a Yeshiva Imrei Yosef
Spinka letterhead thanking Kasirer for his $20,000 donation to a tax-exempt
organization, saying the "donation" was entirely tax deductible and Kasirer
had received no "goods" or "services" in exchange for the contribution.

The Spinka Yeshiva charged Kasirer up to 7.5 percent for laundering the
money, which was a cause for some dispute, according to the wiretaps.

On Dec. 16, 2005, Kasirer told Joseph Roth, an assistant manager at Bank
Mizrahi -- which is based in Israel but has a branch in Los Angeles -- to
set up a new account so he could move money internationally.

On Jan. 12, 2006, Tel Aviv lawyer Jacob Kantor -- the only one of those
named in the indictment who is still at large -- is reported in the
transcripts offering to Kasirer to create documents to incorporate a 
company
called Bedford Holdings & Investments, which would be "held in confidence 
by
the bank and can only be disclosed after a complicated procedure by the 
Bank
of Israel, if there is evidence that the monies resulted from criminal
activities, such as drugs -- tax matters are not an issue." Much like
Switzerland, Israel has laws that protect investors, and the country does
not investigate monetary origins, even on suspicion of tax fraud.

"So, we wanted to basically set everything up the same way as it was
before," Kasirer told Roth in the affidavit transcripts. Later in the
document, he tells Zigelman that Kantor set up a trust in Israel so that
nothing would be left in Kasirer's name in order to hide his money from the
SEC. Then he'd take a loan from the Los Angeles branch of an unnamed 
Israeli
bank, "so I can use the money here." Later, he says in the affidavit, he
would take the money back from Israel and repay the loan here.

Mizrahi Bank, which is never named in the affidavit, is under investigation
by the federal government, according to Assistant U.S. Attorney O'Brien.

"We believe the bank offers this thing as a product to clients in the
U.S. -- the bank pitches this as a money-laundering product. I believe 
there
are multiple agents involved," O'Brien said, including Kantor.

The government also believes that there are many people like Kasirer, "who
occupy the same role as he did in this conspiracy," O'Brien said.

But Kasirer was not the creator of this conspiracy, according to the
government. His father -- the recently deceased Jacob (Yankel) Kasirer who
founded the Bais Yaakov School for Girls on Beverly Boulevard in Los 
Angeles
and is known as a "stalwart" of the Jewish community -- was involved with
the scheme. According to the transcripts, when Kasirer was discussing his
distress over his earlier money-laundering penalty with Lazar, the diamond
dealer said, "It's not something you started."

Kasirer replied, "I was really not aware of what he did with my father."

In addition, in a taped conversation, the Spinka Rebbe told Kasirer he
wanted to meet with his father.

"RK's father was engaged in this prior to RK being involved in it," O'Brien
said in an interview. "We believe that this has origins much earlier than
that -- beyond living memory."




CRIME IS NOT SO BAD

"There are a million ways that religious institutions defraud the
government," said one Brooklyn accountant who asked that his name be
withheld. However, it's not just the Jews, he claimed, "churches do the 
same
thing." Churches and synagogues are exempt from filing tax returns --
although many do -- and the government usually does not audit unless it has
probable cause. As a result, this can make fraud easier.

In the last decade or so, a number of Chasidic institutions on the East
Coast have been charged with such crimes, including the 1997 case against
the Skverer Hasidim in Rockland County, N.Y., where four men were found
guilty of defrauding the government of millions of dollars in federal Pell
Grants. But in the Orthodox community, many defended them, despite the
crime, because the money was used to support needy yeshiva students.

"Nobody here owns a yacht," a resident reportedly said, and the feeling
then -- as with many such institutional fraud cases -- that if the money is
used to help the community and not line someone's pockets, it's not so bad.

That, in fact, is a pervasive attitude these days in Brooklyn, where the
Spinka case raised fewer eyebrows than in Los Angeles, because the attitude
is everyone does something. This kind of discussion has been a hot topic on
many Internet blogs that discuss the ultra-Orthodox community.

"The government are thieves, what gives them the right to take 40 percent 
to
50 percent of someone's income? Anyone who can save yiddishe gelt from 
going
down that toilet is doing a mitzvah," one contributor wrote on the
Vosizneias (Yiddish for "What Is News?") blog.

The blog comments, though, seem to be about evenly divided between two
camps: On one hand are those castigating the government or the bloggers
posting the news for spreading gossip; on the other are those demanding 
that
the community finally put a stop to criminal behavior.

One particularly poignant plea came from New York white-collar defense
attorney Joel Cohen, in an essay published in 2006 titled, "Jewish Felons:
The Problem of Criminality in Observant Communities." Cohen described
witnessing a disturbing rise in crime among Orthodox and Chasidic Jews.

"The problem in the observant community, however, is not merely occasional,
nor does it often make headlines. Daily, in metropolises around the 
country,
yarmulka-wearing criminal defendants appear before the bar of justice," he
wrote.

Some prisons -- especially in New York, Los Angeles and Miami -- have daily
minyans, visiting rabbis, kosher food, classes and Shabbat meals, Cohen
wrote. "The most common charge is fraud: against businessmen and
run-of-the-mill citizens alike, most frequently involving victims outside 
of
the Jewish community, against the government, against insurance carriers,
against banking institutions, health care fraud, money-laundering and
stock-swindling."

Cohen pleads with his fellow Orthodox Jews to denounce the criminal
activity:

"Only with the open denouncement of wrongdoing from within the particular
observant community can the community hope to demonstrate and protect the
Torah's commitment to honesty in one's interpersonal dealings as being at
least equal to, if not greater than, its commitment to technical observance
of mitzvoth," he wrote



DON'T BLAME THE MESSENGER

But the most talked-about aspect of the case -- both among bloggers and at
Shabbat tables on both coasts -- has been the involvement of Kasirer. From
the start, most here guessed accurately who he was -- an informant who
turned state's evidence to save his own skin -- but what they wanted to 
know
was what was he? Was he a moser -- an informer, who, according to
traditional Jewish law, must be killed for turning against a Jew and is
denied access to "the world to come."

The Talmud forbids a Jew to inform on another Jew to a secular government,
even if that Jew violated both secular and Jewish law.

Today, among poskim -- Orthodox rabbinic deciders -- there is a debate over
whether a Jew may turn in another Jew in a democratic state. Some rabbis 
say
that laws of moser do not hold in the United States because they were
established to protect Jews from corrupt and anti-Semitic governments that
would likely torture and give Jews worse treatment than other prisoners 
than
merited by Jewish law.

This is not the case today in a democracy, they say. "These rules apply 
only
to one who informs on another to bandits and so endangers that person's
money and life, as these bandits chase after a person's body and money, and
thus one may use deadly force to save oneself," it is written in the Aruch
Hashulchan, ("Laying the Table," a book about Jewish law written in the 
late
19th century).

But many insist that the laws of moser do apply today, and that it is
forbidden by Jewish law for one Jew to inform on another to any secular
government.

Rabbi Ezra Batzri in "Dinnai Mamonut" ("Laws of Money") says informing is
prohibited. "All rules of informing are applicable even currently .... Even
if they bring all matter to court, it is clear that, through interrogation
and the police, government can destroy people, and in many places they do,
in fact, destroy people."

Some rabbis say you cannot be a moser, even in America, except when the
person doing the questionable act may be a danger to others -- a child
molester, a rapist, a murderer. In those cases, it would be "permitted" to
inform the authorities, writes Rabbi Hershel Schacther, a top posek. Which
means that in the case of financial wrongdoings, a Jew is not allowed to
inform on another Jew.

When the Spinka case broke, the Rabbinical Council of California (RCC)
discussed the informant issue, RCC President Rabbi Meyer May said. But the
council decided to let other halachic authorities deal with the question.

"There is no way to explain how perfidious what RK did is. He violated the
spirit of Jewish law," May said. "Having said that, it doesn't justify what
was done on the other side [by the defendants]."

Although many were focusing on the moser and other justifications like
"everybody does it" and "we pay more taxes than everyone else," that is
beside the point, May said. The point, he continued, is to own up to any
wrongdoings. "Our business is the integrity [of the individual]," he said.
"Something which is wrong is wrong."

Still, others, like lawyer and blog commentator Cohen, argue that it is
precisely such concern about laws like that of moser -- which forbid a Jew
to turn in another Jew to authorities, and chilul Hashem, desecrating God's
name in public, which has created an atmosphere were people are more
concerned with protecting their own than following the laws of the U.S.
government.

"To ignore crime within our ranks does us a great disservice, both because
it weakens us as a community and because tolerating it suggests to the
outside world that Judaism does not promote a righteous moral compass,"
Cohen wrote.



BUSINESS AS USUAL

On Monday morning, Dec. 31, the streets of downtown Los Angeles were eerily
empty; nearly everyone had left town. But the Roybal Federal Courthouse was
open, and by 8:30 a.m. there were enough Chasidic men in the third-floor
corridor for a minyan: 11 -- not to mention a few clean-shaven men wearing
black yarmulkes -- all waiting for the morning's arraignment hearings to
begin.

Grand Spinka Rebbe Weisz didn't converse much with his gabbai Zigelman. The
men pored over Hebrew books -- either studying holy texts or reciting
psalms -- and intermittently conversed with the lawyers. It would be an 
hour
until the court would open and another until their own hearing would begin.

Everyone was anxious for the hearing to start -- not because of the 
upcoming
secular New Year, which the ultra-Orthodox do not celebrate -- but so that
they could return to their homes and to their lives in Brooklyn.

The seven men had been arrested and jailed on Dec. 19, a Wednesday, and 
most
were released before Shabbat.

Weisz and Zeligman had spent another Shabbat in Los Angeles, detained until
the arraignment. The Spinka Rebbe attended Rabbi Chaim Boruch Rubin's
synagogue in Hancock Park -- which itself is entangled in a legal battle
over land use -- and was given the honor of leading services. At this, a 
few
men walked out in protest.

"As a parent in the community and as a rabbi in the community, since there
were children in the room and since we have an obligation to teach our
children right and wrong," one person who left quietly said later. "I have
no problem [with the Spinka Rebbe] sitting in the front in his normal
[honored] seat," but the man who walked out said he would have preferred
"one stage less than normal" to show children "that it's not business as
usual."

When the court opened for the hearing, most of the defendants and their
supporters filed into the first row of the courtroom, except for the
clean-shaven Friedman, who sat in the back, a few seats away from Zeivald,
who was accompanied by an Israeli translator.

A Yiddish translator sat next to the Spinka Rebbe, and only Roth, the
Israeli banker, came from the entrance behind a glass partition, clad in
green prison outfit. He was the only one not yet released on bail, at the
time, because the government said he was believed to pose a flight risk.
Roth remains in custody.

Finally, their turn arrived. The seven filed up front, each with his
separate lawyers. (Famed lawyer Donald Etra, who was originally retained to
defend Weisz, was by then no longer on the case). They each declined to 
have
the charges read to them.

"How do you plead?" Magistrate Judge Alicia G. Rosenberg asked.

One by one, Weisz, Zigelman, Naiman, Zievald, Friedman, Lazar and Roth each
said: "Not guilty."

By 11 a.m., they filed out of the courtroom.

By Shabbat, Jan. 4, the Grand Spinka Rebbe was back in Boro Park to lead 
his
congregation. He's free on $2 million bail, allowed to travel for work in
New York and New Jersey, and of course, to California, where he and
Zigelman, among others, await trial.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinka_financial_controversy

This is similar to the TAX FRAUD involving Ken McVay & B'nai Brith!!


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for JEW-WATCH:
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OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
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From: Frank Arthur 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,alt.revisionism,soc.culture.palestine
Subject: Mcvay/Nizkor & Harry Mazal/BB Engaged in Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING! PROOF!!
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Mcvay and his  one fag  business Nizkor, [where only gay McVay 
gets paid there], together with Harry Mazal/BB ARE Engaged 
in completely Illegal  MONEY LAUNDERING and tax frauds! 

They are being considered for  prosecution in both USA & Canada!

Proof is from McVay's & Harry Mazal's  own postings detailing his money
laundering!

Time for the Auditor-General of Canada to get the RCMP, and Interpol 
plus IRS and RICO onto McVay and his criminal money laundering activities.

With Bnai Brith involved, and Harry Mazal in the USA, there must be
many, many millions of dollars for the tax authorities to recover,
including from those donors who supported all the criminality!!

No wonder BB are not happy at all the government investigations of the scam!

Links to Doc Tavish posts which give proof to McVay's criminality and 
money being laundered:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/5e2047e8f5129b1a?fwc=1
Subject: Nizkor Project Director Kenneth McVay is a Mamzer Totally 
Owned and Controlled by Jews   v3.0   U0221
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:43:31 -0600
Message-ID: 

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/1d1cf50fcc74cca7?fwc=1
Subject: $50,000+ Not Reported to CCRA by The Nizkor Project? Nizkor 
Director Ken McVay is Lying About Funds
He Has Apparently NOT Reported to CCRA!! SAAF Reports are Further 
Proof! V5.0 U_0122
Message-ID: 
Date: 22 Jan 2006 09:24:36 GMT
                  Two Companion pieces to the above:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/af974e5ec5085cce?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: McVaySlamDunked_A5 and McVaySlamDunked_A6)
Subject: SAAF San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund  -- Some New 
Archives and The Same Funding Lie by
Ken McVay Exposed V3-0   T_0822
Message-ID: <3i9lg1p8efhpoda0r07vatjs87jmr1pfb3@4ax.com>
Date: 23 Aug 2005 04:32:17 GMT
------------------------------AND-------------------------------
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/2a8fb4468666dd3?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Caught Lying About San Antonio 
Connection! (Those Two U.S. Servers!)
V3.0  Updated Links T_0625
Message-ID: 
Date: 26 Jun 2005 02:36:20 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
Subject: Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam? 
You All be the Judges!  V2-0
Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com>
Date: 26 Jun 2005 18:49:41 GMT
  (Actually the Nizkor Endowment Fund and the Nizkor Trust Fund 
should both be renamed the Kenneth McVay
Endowment Fund and the Kenneth McVay Trust Fund seeing how the Nizkor 
Project is a web site solely operated
by Kenneth McVay from a back room of his personal residence. McVay is 
the sole recipient and beneficiary of
those two "bogus" funds!)
  Why Ken Lewis was so vicious in his attacks against me in his 
defense of McVay; he's evidently getting some
of that laundered money too as indicated here:
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a76ebe4ccbcb71ee?fwc=1
Subject: Ken Lewis' Famous Last Words RE Ken McVay's Address AND Ken 
Lewis Benefitting from McVay's
Funding Scams?   V2.0  T_1227
Message-ID: 
Date: 28 Dec 2005 05:21:28 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Apparent Funding Kick Backs and 
Tax Scam  V2.0
Message-ID: 
Date: 26 Jun 2005 03:06:12 GMT
  (The above details and documents the tax scheme invented and 
currently perpetrated by B'nai Brith Canada and
Kenneth McVay's Nizkor Project in which B'nai Brith launders exempt 
donations and passes them to McVay as
tax free even though Ken McVay is not legally allowed to receive 
exempt donations. This is more or less a similar
tax scheme which resulted in criminal prosecutions.)


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant




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From: Frank Arthur 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,alt.revisionism,soc.culture.palestine
Subject: Mcvay/Nizkor & Harry Mazal/BB Engaged in Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING! PROOF!!
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Mcvay and his  one fag  business Nizkor, [where only  McVay 
gets paid there], together with Harry Mazal/BB ARE Engaged 
in completely Illegal  MONEY LAUNDERING and tax frauds! 

They are being considered for  prosecution in both USA & Canada!

Proof is from McVay's & Harry Mazal's  own postings detailing his money
laundering!

Time for the Auditor-General of Canada to get the RCMP, and Interpol 
plus IRS and RICO onto McVay and his criminal money laundering activities.

With Bnai Brith involved, and Harry Mazal in the USA, there must be
many, many millions of dollars for the tax authorities to recover,
including from those donors who supported all the criminality!!

No wonder BB are not happy at all the government investigations of the scam!

Links to Doc Tavish posts which give proof to McVay's criminality and 
money being laundered:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/5e2047e8f5129b1a?fwc=1
Subject: Nizkor Project Director Kenneth McVay is a Mamzer Totally 
Owned and Controlled by Jews   v3.0   U0221
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:43:31 -0600
Message-ID: 

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/1d1cf50fcc74cca7?fwc=1
Subject: $50,000+ Not Reported to CCRA by The Nizkor Project? Nizkor 
Director Ken McVay is Lying About Funds
He Has Apparently NOT Reported to CCRA!! SAAF Reports are Further 
Proof! V5.0 U_0122
Message-ID: 
Date: 22 Jan 2006 09:24:36 GMT
                  Two Companion pieces to the above:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/af974e5ec5085cce?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: McVaySlamDunked_A5 and McVaySlamDunked_A6)
Subject: SAAF San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund  -- Some New 
Archives and The Same Funding Lie by
Ken McVay Exposed V3-0   T_0822
Message-ID: <3i9lg1p8efhpoda0r07vatjs87jmr1pfb3@4ax.com>
Date: 23 Aug 2005 04:32:17 GMT
------------------------------AND-------------------------------
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/2a8fb4468666dd3?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Caught Lying About San Antonio 
Connection! (Those Two U.S. Servers!)
V3.0  Updated Links T_0625
Message-ID: 
Date: 26 Jun 2005 02:36:20 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
Subject: Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam? 
You All be the Judges!  V2-0
Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com>
Date: 26 Jun 2005 18:49:41 GMT
  (Actually the Nizkor Endowment Fund and the Nizkor Trust Fund 
should both be renamed the Kenneth McVay
Endowment Fund and the Kenneth McVay Trust Fund seeing how the Nizkor 
Project is a web site solely operated
by Kenneth McVay from a back room of his personal residence. McVay is 
the sole recipient and beneficiary of
those two "bogus" funds!)
  Why Ken Lewis was so vicious in his attacks against me in his 
defense of McVay; he's evidently getting some
of that laundered money too as indicated here:
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a76ebe4ccbcb71ee?fwc=1
Subject: Ken Lewis' Famous Last Words RE Ken McVay's Address AND Ken 
Lewis Benefitting from McVay's
Funding Scams?   V2.0  T_1227
Message-ID: 
Date: 28 Dec 2005 05:21:28 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Apparent Funding Kick Backs and 
Tax Scam  V2.0
Message-ID: 
Date: 26 Jun 2005 03:06:12 GMT
  (The above details and documents the tax scheme invented and 
currently perpetrated by B'nai Brith Canada and
Kenneth McVay's Nizkor Project in which B'nai Brith launders exempt 
donations and passes them to McVay as
tax free even though Ken McVay is not legally allowed to receive 
exempt donations. This is more or less a similar
tax scheme which resulted in criminal prosecutions.)


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant




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From: "Gnostic" 
Subject: ZYD/Jew money laundering ring busted, 
stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to Israel 
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:58:29 -0500

U.S. Attorney General's Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District
Court for the Central District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva and
four other Spinka organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion
dollar tax fraud and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to
Los Angeles to Israel and elsewhere.

http://www.jewishjournal.com/home/preview.php?id=18767

2008-01-11

The Spinka money trail -- and the informant who brought them down

By Amy Klein, Religion Editor

Spinka defendants and supporters as they cross the street to the federal
courthouse in downtown Los Angeles on Dec. 31, 2007. Courthouse photos by
Dan Kacvinski

The first snow flutters hesitantly in Brooklyn. Men wearing fur streimel
hats and women wearing sheitls walk briskly past the corner of 15th Avenue
and 58th Street in Boro Park as if nothing extraordinary has happened here.

And why not? The kosher shops of this self-contained ultra-Orthodox
neighborhood -- practically a city onto itself -- are still a few blocks
down, and here on this bleak corner, there are only three orange school
buses parked in front of a four-story, dark-red brick building, which sits
on a residential street, where tall, narrow houses nearly overlap. The
structure (photo below) is rather nondescript and unimposing -- garbage bags
are piled haphazardly by a front gate, bars protect the windows, young boys
can be heard chanting from behind the locked door and a white sign with sky
blue Hebrew lettering reads: "Yeshiva Imrei Yosef Spinka."


A buzzer sounds. The door opens. No one asks who rang the bell. Up the four
steps, a reception window sits empty. Hazy yellow fluorescent lights
illuminate the narrow hallways adorned with graying yellow paint and frayed
industrial carpeting. If there are millions -- or even thousands -- of
dollars going to the Spinka yeshiva, it certainly doesn't seem like it's
coming here.

This despite the fact that on Dec. 19, 2007, the U.S. Attorney General's
Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District Court for the Central
District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva and four other Spinka
organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion dollar tax fraud
and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to
Israel and elsewhere.

Two of those indicted are Rabbi Naftali Tzi Weisz, 59, the Grand Rabbi of
Spinka, a Brooklyn-based Chasidic sect, whose yeshiva is in this
undistinguished building, and his gabbai (assistant), Moshe Zigelman, 60.

Weisz is just one of a number of Grand Rebbes of Spinka, a Chasidic sect
that originated in Romania in the 19th century. He is the
great-great-grandson of the founding rabbi, and one of about a dozen Grand
Spinka Rebbes who live in Boro Park or Williamsburg, in Brooklyn, or Bnei
Brak and Jerusalem in Israel.

Four Los Angeles men were among those charged with taking part in the
scheme: Yaacov (Yankel) Zeivald, 43, a self-described scribe (sofer) from
Valley Village (photo, right); Yosef Nachum Naiman, 55, the owner of Shatz
Et Naiman, d.b.a. Jerusalem Tours; Alan Jay Friedman, 43, a businessman from
Pico-Robertson who sits on the board of the Orthodox Union; and Moshe Lazar,
60, owner of Lazar Diamonds, a Los Angeles jewelry company.

Although many of the details of the case have not yet been revealed -- a
trial date is set for Feb. 12, but the defendants' lawyers say it will be
postponed at least a year -- what is emerging from the indictment, the
search warrant and other documents of public record is a complex
money-laundering scheme. According to the documents, people donated money to
the Spinka institutions but then received 80 percent to 95 percent of their
donations back, yet wrote off the full amount on their taxes.

These charges are just the beginning of a much larger case, Daniel J.
O'Brien, an assistant U.S. attorney in the major frauds section, based in
Los Angeles, said in an interview with The Journal.

"There were many other people that contributed in this fashion that would be
the subject of government investigations," O'Brien said.

While O'Brien said he has documentation that the Spinka institutions took in
about $750,000 through the scheme -- then writing receipts for $8.7
million -- in 2007 alone, the assistant U.S. attorney believes the fraud has
been going on for decades: "I believe this goes on beyond living memory,"
possibly for generations.

This is certainly not the first time an ultra-Orthodox sect has been accused
of attempting to break the laws of the secular government -- aramos, or
schemes, were perpetrated over the centuries in the shtetls of Europe. In
the last decade, arrests have occurred in religious communities in Brooklyn,
Lakewood, N.J., and upstate New York.

However, this particular case has shocked Los Angeles' ultra-Orthodox
community, not only because Los Angeles had largely been exempt from such
cases in the past, but also because some of the city's prominent members
have been charged as being at the center of the scheme.

As a result, the case has sparked a fierce debate about the type of behavior
that is acceptable for observant people and what type of religious community
Los Angeles would like to be. But there's also debate about the laws of a
moser, an informant, because one person who was not charged was the primary
source of information for the federal case -- though he allegedly started
out as one of the perpetrators.



THE BEGINNING

On June 29, 2004, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission filed civil
fraud charges against Robert A. Kasirer and four executives of Heritage
Healthcare of America, which sold $131 million in bonds to 1,800 investors
in 36 states from 1996-1999, claiming that the money would be used to fund
10 health care facilities. In October of that year, Kasirer approached the
federal government and "expressed a desire to plead guilty to criminal
charges arising out of the investigation and agreed to reveal other criminal
conduct he and others had committed, with a view that any sentence he might
receive would be reduced," according to an affidavit for a search warrant
submitted by FBI Special Agent Ryan Heaton on Dec. 18, 2007.

Although the search warrant affidavit identifies Kasirer only as
"confidential witness (CW-1)" and the recent grand jury indictment refers to
a witness named only as RK, the companies in the affidavit attributed to
CW-1 and RK are run by Kasirer, and several members of the Los Angeles
community, who asked for confidentiality, have confirmed his involvement.

In 2004, under federal surveillance, the informant identified in the
transcript as CW-1 resumed activities he admitted to having conducted with
the Spinka since 1990, in which "he caused several million dollars in
contributions to be mailed to the tax-exempt organizations operating within
the umbrella of Spinka," he is quoted in federal documents as having told
the FBI.

As part of the scam, Weisz and Zigelman allegedly would return 80 to 95
percent of Kasirer's contributions.

On Oct. 31, 2007, the SEC issued a final judgment against Kasirer, ordering
him to pay $4,991,434.

"Kasirer consented to the entry of the final judgment without admitting or
denying the allegations contained in the commission's case," according to
the SEC enforcement proceedings.

In the interim, according to the transcripts, Kasirer began to wear a device
to record his interactions for the government. On Dec. 20, 2004, he told
Zigelman, the Spinka rebbe's gabbai, that he never intended to pay the SEC.

According to the wiretapped transcripts, Kasirer told Zigelman: "The SEC
investigation is done. But they want me to pay them a lot of money."

"How much?" Zigelman asked.

"Possibly one, one and a half," Kasirer said.

"Million?" Zigelman asked.

Kasirer confirmed the amount and said he had told the SEC he didn't have the
money. In the transcript, Kasirer then went on to say that he'd lied to the
SEC, and that, in fact he had the money but wanted to hide that fact.

"What is SEC?" Zigelman asked.

Kasirer explained, and Zigelman replied, "Yes, yes, but you don't have to
give it to them."

For the next three years, Kasirer recorded conversations with targets of the
government investigation, and, using government funds, conducted a dozen
monetary transactions with Zigelman, according to transcripts of
conversations conducted in English, Hebrew, Yiddish and Hungarian. The
government also tapped the phones of Zigelman and Weisz.



CASH OR CHARGE?

For Kasirer, there were two ways the operation worked: At first he
reportedly received his "donations" back in cash, and when he became
uncomfortable with the large cash amounts floating around, he set up an
Israeli account.

According to the transcripts, Kasirer's money was allegedly refunded to him
by various men, all now defendants in the case: Naiman, Zeivald, Friedman
and Lazar, all of whom have pleaded not guilty to the charges against them.

Among the transactions in the transcripts, for example, was one on Feb. 8,
2007. Kasirer FedEx-ed a check for $20,000 made out to Yeshiva Imrei Yosef
to Zigelman. On Feb. 15, 2007, Lazar delivered $18,600 to Kasirer's house.
On Feb. 22, 2007, Kasirer got a letter in the mail on a Yeshiva Imrei Yosef
Spinka letterhead thanking Kasirer for his $20,000 donation to a tax-exempt
organization, saying the "donation" was entirely tax deductible and Kasirer
had received no "goods" or "services" in exchange for the contribution.

The Spinka Yeshiva charged Kasirer up to 7.5 percent for laundering the
money, which was a cause for some dispute, according to the wiretaps.

On Dec. 16, 2005, Kasirer told Joseph Roth, an assistant manager at Bank
Mizrahi -- which is based in Israel but has a branch in Los Angeles -- to
set up a new account so he could move money internationally.

On Jan. 12, 2006, Tel Aviv lawyer Jacob Kantor -- the only one of those
named in the indictment who is still at large -- is reported in the
transcripts offering to Kasirer to create documents to incorporate a company
called Bedford Holdings & Investments, which would be "held in confidence by
the bank and can only be disclosed after a complicated procedure by the Bank
of Israel, if there is evidence that the monies resulted from criminal
activities, such as drugs -- tax matters are not an issue." Much like
Switzerland, Israel has laws that protect investors, and the country does
not investigate monetary origins, even on suspicion of tax fraud.

"So, we wanted to basically set everything up the same way as it was
before," Kasirer told Roth in the affidavit transcripts. Later in the
document, he tells Zigelman that Kantor set up a trust in Israel so that
nothing would be left in Kasirer's name in order to hide his money from the
SEC. Then he'd take a loan from the Los Angeles branch of an unnamed Israeli
bank, "so I can use the money here." Later, he says in the affidavit, he
would take the money back from Israel and repay the loan here.

Mizrahi Bank, which is never named in the affidavit, is under investigation
by the federal government, according to Assistant U.S. Attorney O'Brien.

"We believe the bank offers this thing as a product to clients in the
U.S. -- the bank pitches this as a money-laundering product. I believe there
are multiple agents involved," O'Brien said, including Kantor.

The government also believes that there are many people like Kasirer, "who
occupy the same role as he did in this conspiracy," O'Brien said.

But Kasirer was not the creator of this conspiracy, according to the
government. His father -- the recently deceased Jacob (Yankel) Kasirer who
founded the Bais Yaakov School for Girls on Beverly Boulevard in Los Angeles
and is known as a "stalwart" of the Jewish community -- was involved with
the scheme. According to the transcripts, when Kasirer was discussing his
distress over his earlier money-laundering penalty with Lazar, the diamond
dealer said, "It's not something you started."

Kasirer replied, "I was really not aware of what he did with my father."

In addition, in a taped conversation, the Spinka Rebbe told Kasirer he
wanted to meet with his father.

"RK's father was engaged in this prior to RK being involved in it," O'Brien
said in an interview. "We believe that this has origins much earlier than
that -- beyond living memory."




CRIME IS NOT SO BAD

"There are a million ways that religious institutions defraud the
government," said one Brooklyn accountant who asked that his name be
withheld. However, it's not just the Jews, he claimed, "churches do the same
thing." Churches and synagogues are exempt from filing tax returns -- 
although many do -- and the government usually does not audit unless it has
probable cause. As a result, this can make fraud easier.

In the last decade or so, a number of Chasidic institutions on the East
Coast have been charged with such crimes, including the 1997 case against
the Skverer Hasidim in Rockland County, N.Y., where four men were found
guilty of defrauding the government of millions of dollars in federal Pell
Grants. But in the Orthodox community, many defended them, despite the
crime, because the money was used to support needy yeshiva students.

"Nobody here owns a yacht," a resident reportedly said, and the feeling
then -- as with many such institutional fraud cases -- that if the money is
used to help the community and not line someone's pockets, it's not so bad.

That, in fact, is a pervasive attitude these days in Brooklyn, where the
Spinka case raised fewer eyebrows than in Los Angeles, because the attitude
is everyone does something. This kind of discussion has been a hot topic on
many Internet blogs that discuss the ultra-Orthodox community.

"The government are thieves, what gives them the right to take 40 percent to
50 percent of someone's income? Anyone who can save yiddishe gelt from going
down that toilet is doing a mitzvah," one contributor wrote on the
Vosizneias (Yiddish for "What Is News?") blog.

The blog comments, though, seem to be about evenly divided between two
camps: On one hand are those castigating the government or the bloggers
posting the news for spreading gossip; on the other are those demanding that
the community finally put a stop to criminal behavior.

One particularly poignant plea came from New York white-collar defense
attorney Joel Cohen, in an essay published in 2006 titled, "Jewish Felons:
The Problem of Criminality in Observant Communities." Cohen described
witnessing a disturbing rise in crime among Orthodox and Chasidic Jews.

"The problem in the observant community, however, is not merely occasional,
nor does it often make headlines. Daily, in metropolises around the country,
yarmulka-wearing criminal defendants appear before the bar of justice," he
wrote.

Some prisons -- especially in New York, Los Angeles and Miami -- have daily
minyans, visiting rabbis, kosher food, classes and Shabbat meals, Cohen
wrote. "The most common charge is fraud: against businessmen and
run-of-the-mill citizens alike, most frequently involving victims outside of
the Jewish community, against the government, against insurance carriers,
against banking institutions, health care fraud, money-laundering and
stock-swindling."

Cohen pleads with his fellow Orthodox Jews to denounce the criminal
activity:

"Only with the open denouncement of wrongdoing from within the particular
observant community can the community hope to demonstrate and protect the
Torah's commitment to honesty in one's interpersonal dealings as being at
least equal to, if not greater than, its commitment to technical observance
of mitzvoth," he wrote



DON'T BLAME THE MESSENGER

But the most talked-about aspect of the case -- both among bloggers and at
Shabbat tables on both coasts -- has been the involvement of Kasirer. From
the start, most here guessed accurately who he was -- an informant who
turned state's evidence to save his own skin -- but what they wanted to know
was what was he? Was he a moser -- an informer, who, according to
traditional Jewish law, must be killed for turning against a Jew and is
denied access to "the world to come."

The Talmud forbids a Jew to inform on another Jew to a secular government,
even if that Jew violated both secular and Jewish law.

Today, among poskim -- Orthodox rabbinic deciders -- there is a debate over
whether a Jew may turn in another Jew in a democratic state. Some rabbis say
that laws of moser do not hold in the United States because they were
established to protect Jews from corrupt and anti-Semitic governments that
would likely torture and give Jews worse treatment than other prisoners than
merited by Jewish law.

This is not the case today in a democracy, they say. "These rules apply only
to one who informs on another to bandits and so endangers that person's
money and life, as these bandits chase after a person's body and money, and
thus one may use deadly force to save oneself," it is written in the Aruch
Hashulchan, ("Laying the Table," a book about Jewish law written in the late
19th century).

But many insist that the laws of moser do apply today, and that it is
forbidden by Jewish law for one Jew to inform on another to any secular
government.

Rabbi Ezra Batzri in "Dinnai Mamonut" ("Laws of Money") says informing is
prohibited. "All rules of informing are applicable even currently .... Even
if they bring all matter to court, it is clear that, through interrogation
and the police, government can destroy people, and in many places they do,
in fact, destroy people."

Some rabbis say you cannot be a moser, even in America, except when the
person doing the questionable act may be a danger to others -- a child
molester, a rapist, a murderer. In those cases, it would be "permitted" to
inform the authorities, writes Rabbi Hershel Schacther, a top posek. Which
means that in the case of financial wrongdoings, a Jew is not allowed to
inform on another Jew.

When the Spinka case broke, the Rabbinical Council of California (RCC)
discussed the informant issue, RCC President Rabbi Meyer May said. But the
council decided to let other halachic authorities deal with the question.

"There is no way to explain how perfidious what RK did is. He violated the
spirit of Jewish law," May said. "Having said that, it doesn't justify what
was done on the other side [by the defendants]."

Although many were focusing on the moser and other justifications like
"everybody does it" and "we pay more taxes than everyone else," that is
beside the point, May said. The point, he continued, is to own up to any
wrongdoings. "Our business is the integrity [of the individual]," he said.
"Something which is wrong is wrong."

Still, others, like lawyer and blog commentator Cohen, argue that it is
precisely such concern about laws like that of moser -- which forbid a Jew
to turn in another Jew to authorities, and chilul Hashem, desecrating God's
name in public, which has created an atmosphere were people are more
concerned with protecting their own than following the laws of the U.S.
government.

"To ignore crime within our ranks does us a great disservice, both because
it weakens us as a community and because tolerating it suggests to the
outside world that Judaism does not promote a righteous moral compass,"
Cohen wrote.



BUSINESS AS USUAL

On Monday morning, Dec. 31, the streets of downtown Los Angeles were eerily
empty; nearly everyone had left town. But the Roybal Federal Courthouse was
open, and by 8:30 a.m. there were enough Chasidic men in the third-floor
corridor for a minyan: 11 -- not to mention a few clean-shaven men wearing
black yarmulkes -- all waiting for the morning's arraignment hearings to
begin.

Grand Spinka Rebbe Weisz didn't converse much with his gabbai Zigelman. The
men pored over Hebrew books -- either studying holy texts or reciting
psalms -- and intermittently conversed with the lawyers. It would be an hour
until the court would open and another until their own hearing would begin.

Everyone was anxious for the hearing to start -- not because of the upcoming
secular New Year, which the ultra-Orthodox do not celebrate -- but so that
they could return to their homes and to their lives in Brooklyn.

The seven men had been arrested and jailed on Dec. 19, a Wednesday, and most
were released before Shabbat.

Weisz and Zeligman had spent another Shabbat in Los Angeles, detained until
the arraignment. The Spinka Rebbe attended Rabbi Chaim Boruch Rubin's
synagogue in Hancock Park -- which itself is entangled in a legal battle
over land use -- and was given the honor of leading services. At this, a few
men walked out in protest.

"As a parent in the community and as a rabbi in the community, since there
were children in the room and since we have an obligation to teach our
children right and wrong," one person who left quietly said later. "I have
no problem [with the Spinka Rebbe] sitting in the front in his normal
[honored] seat," but the man who walked out said he would have preferred
"one stage less than normal" to show children "that it's not business as
usual."

When the court opened for the hearing, most of the defendants and their
supporters filed into the first row of the courtroom, except for the
clean-shaven Friedman, who sat in the back, a few seats away from Zeivald,
who was accompanied by an Israeli translator.

A Yiddish translator sat next to the Spinka Rebbe, and only Roth, the
Israeli banker, came from the entrance behind a glass partition, clad in
green prison outfit. He was the only one not yet released on bail, at the
time, because the government said he was believed to pose a flight risk.
Roth remains in custody.

Finally, their turn arrived. The seven filed up front, each with his
separate lawyers. (Famed lawyer Donald Etra, who was originally retained to
defend Weisz, was by then no longer on the case). They each declined to have
the charges read to them.

"How do you plead?" Magistrate Judge Alicia G. Rosenberg asked.

One by one, Weisz, Zigelman, Naiman, Zievald, Friedman, Lazar and Roth each
said: "Not guilty."

By 11 a.m., they filed out of the courtroom.

By Shabbat, Jan. 4, the Grand Spinka Rebbe was back in Boro Park to lead his
congregation. He's free on $2 million bail, allowed to travel for work in
New York and New Jersey, and of course, to California, where he and
Zigelman, among others, await trial.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinka_financial_controversy

This is similar to the TAX FRAUD involving Ken McVay & B'nai Brith!!



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Subject: ZYD/Jew money laundering ring busted, 
stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to Israel 
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:58:29 -0500

U.S. Attorney General's Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District
Court for the Central District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva and
four other Spinka organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion
dollar tax fraud and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to
Los Angeles to Israel and elsewhere.

http://www.jewishjournal.com/home/preview.php?id=18767

2008-01-11

The Spinka money trail -- and the informant who brought them down

By Amy Klein, Religion Editor

Spinka defendants and supporters as they cross the street to the federal
courthouse in downtown Los Angeles on Dec. 31, 2007. Courthouse photos by
Dan Kacvinski

The first snow flutters hesitantly in Brooklyn. Men wearing fur streimel
hats and women wearing sheitls walk briskly past the corner of 15th Avenue
and 58th Street in Boro Park as if nothing extraordinary has happened here.

And why not? The kosher shops of this self-contained ultra-Orthodox
neighborhood -- practically a city onto itself -- are still a few blocks
down, and here on this bleak corner, there are only three orange school
buses parked in front of a four-story, dark-red brick building, which sits
on a residential street, where tall, narrow houses nearly overlap. The
structure (photo below) is rather nondescript and unimposing -- garbage bags
are piled haphazardly by a front gate, bars protect the windows, young boys
can be heard chanting from behind the locked door and a white sign with sky
blue Hebrew lettering reads: "Yeshiva Imrei Yosef Spinka."


A buzzer sounds. The door opens. No one asks who rang the bell. Up the four
steps, a reception window sits empty. Hazy yellow fluorescent lights
illuminate the narrow hallways adorned with graying yellow paint and frayed
industrial carpeting. If there are millions -- or even thousands -- of
dollars going to the Spinka yeshiva, it certainly doesn't seem like it's
coming here.

This despite the fact that on Dec. 19, 2007, the U.S. Attorney General's
Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District Court for the Central
District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva and four other Spinka
organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion dollar tax fraud
and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to
Israel and elsewhere.

Two of those indicted are Rabbi Naftali Tzi Weisz, 59, the Grand Rabbi of
Spinka, a Brooklyn-based Chasidic sect, whose yeshiva is in this
undistinguished building, and his gabbai (assistant), Moshe Zigelman, 60.

Weisz is just one of a number of Grand Rebbes of Spinka, a Chasidic sect
that originated in Romania in the 19th century. He is the
great-great-grandson of the founding rabbi, and one of about a dozen Grand
Spinka Rebbes who live in Boro Park or Williamsburg, in Brooklyn, or Bnei
Brak and Jerusalem in Israel.

Four Los Angeles men were among those charged with taking part in the
scheme: Yaacov (Yankel) Zeivald, 43, a self-described scribe (sofer) from
Valley Village (photo, right); Yosef Nachum Naiman, 55, the owner of Shatz
Et Naiman, d.b.a. Jerusalem Tours; Alan Jay Friedman, 43, a businessman from
Pico-Robertson who sits on the board of the Orthodox Union; and Moshe Lazar,
60, owner of Lazar Diamonds, a Los Angeles jewelry company.

Although many of the details of the case have not yet been revealed -- a
trial date is set for Feb. 12, but the defendants' lawyers say it will be
postponed at least a year -- what is emerging from the indictment, the
search warrant and other documents of public record is a complex
money-laundering scheme. According to the documents, people donated money to
the Spinka institutions but then received 80 percent to 95 percent of their
donations back, yet wrote off the full amount on their taxes.

These charges are just the beginning of a much larger case, Daniel J.
O'Brien, an assistant U.S. attorney in the major frauds section, based in
Los Angeles, said in an interview with The Journal.

"There were many other people that contributed in this fashion that would be
the subject of government investigations," O'Brien said.

While O'Brien said he has documentation that the Spinka institutions took in
about $750,000 through the scheme -- then writing receipts for $8.7
million -- in 2007 alone, the assistant U.S. attorney believes the fraud has
been going on for decades: "I believe this goes on beyond living memory,"
possibly for generations.

This is certainly not the first time an ultra-Orthodox sect has been accused
of attempting to break the laws of the secular government -- aramos, or
schemes, were perpetrated over the centuries in the shtetls of Europe. In
the last decade, arrests have occurred in religious communities in Brooklyn,
Lakewood, N.J., and upstate New York.

However, this particular case has shocked Los Angeles' ultra-Orthodox
community, not only because Los Angeles had largely been exempt from such
cases in the past, but also because some of the city's prominent members
have been charged as being at the center of the scheme.

As a result, the case has sparked a fierce debate about the type of behavior
that is acceptable for observant people and what type of religious community
Los Angeles would like to be. But there's also debate about the laws of a
moser, an informant, because one person who was not charged was the primary
source of information for the federal case -- though he allegedly started
out as one of the perpetrators.



THE BEGINNING

On June 29, 2004, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission filed civil
fraud charges against Robert A. Kasirer and four executives of Heritage
Healthcare of America, which sold $131 million in bonds to 1,800 investors
in 36 states from 1996-1999, claiming that the money would be used to fund
10 health care facilities. In October of that year, Kasirer approached the
federal government and "expressed a desire to plead guilty to criminal
charges arising out of the investigation and agreed to reveal other criminal
conduct he and others had committed, with a view that any sentence he might
receive would be reduced," according to an affidavit for a search warrant
submitted by FBI Special Agent Ryan Heaton on Dec. 18, 2007.

Although the search warrant affidavit identifies Kasirer only as
"confidential witness (CW-1)" and the recent grand jury indictment refers to
a witness named only as RK, the companies in the affidavit attributed to
CW-1 and RK are run by Kasirer, and several members of the Los Angeles
community, who asked for confidentiality, have confirmed his involvement.

In 2004, under federal surveillance, the informant identified in the
transcript as CW-1 resumed activities he admitted to having conducted with
the Spinka since 1990, in which "he caused several million dollars in
contributions to be mailed to the tax-exempt organizations operating within
the umbrella of Spinka," he is quoted in federal documents as having told
the FBI.

As part of the scam, Weisz and Zigelman allegedly would return 80 to 95
percent of Kasirer's contributions.

On Oct. 31, 2007, the SEC issued a final judgment against Kasirer, ordering
him to pay $4,991,434.

"Kasirer consented to the entry of the final judgment without admitting or
denying the allegations contained in the commission's case," according to
the SEC enforcement proceedings.

In the interim, according to the transcripts, Kasirer began to wear a device
to record his interactions for the government. On Dec. 20, 2004, he told
Zigelman, the Spinka rebbe's gabbai, that he never intended to pay the SEC.

According to the wiretapped transcripts, Kasirer told Zigelman: "The SEC
investigation is done. But they want me to pay them a lot of money."

"How much?" Zigelman asked.

"Possibly one, one and a half," Kasirer said.

"Million?" Zigelman asked.

Kasirer confirmed the amount and said he had told the SEC he didn't have the
money. In the transcript, Kasirer then went on to say that he'd lied to the
SEC, and that, in fact he had the money but wanted to hide that fact.

"What is SEC?" Zigelman asked.

Kasirer explained, and Zigelman replied, "Yes, yes, but you don't have to
give it to them."

For the next three years, Kasirer recorded conversations with targets of the
government investigation, and, using government funds, conducted a dozen
monetary transactions with Zigelman, according to transcripts of
conversations conducted in English, Hebrew, Yiddish and Hungarian. The
government also tapped the phones of Zigelman and Weisz.



CASH OR CHARGE?

For Kasirer, there were two ways the operation worked: At first he
reportedly received his "donations" back in cash, and when he became
uncomfortable with the large cash amounts floating around, he set up an
Israeli account.

According to the transcripts, Kasirer's money was allegedly refunded to him
by various men, all now defendants in the case: Naiman, Zeivald, Friedman
and Lazar, all of whom have pleaded not guilty to the charges against them.

Among the transactions in the transcripts, for example, was one on Feb. 8,
2007. Kasirer FedEx-ed a check for $20,000 made out to Yeshiva Imrei Yosef
to Zigelman. On Feb. 15, 2007, Lazar delivered $18,600 to Kasirer's house.
On Feb. 22, 2007, Kasirer got a letter in the mail on a Yeshiva Imrei Yosef
Spinka letterhead thanking Kasirer for his $20,000 donation to a tax-exempt
organization, saying the "donation" was entirely tax deductible and Kasirer
had received no "goods" or "services" in exchange for the contribution.

The Spinka Yeshiva charged Kasirer up to 7.5 percent for laundering the
money, which was a cause for some dispute, according to the wiretaps.

On Dec. 16, 2005, Kasirer told Joseph Roth, an assistant manager at Bank
Mizrahi -- which is based in Israel but has a branch in Los Angeles -- to
set up a new account so he could move money internationally.

On Jan. 12, 2006, Tel Aviv lawyer Jacob Kantor -- the only one of those
named in the indictment who is still at large -- is reported in the
transcripts offering to Kasirer to create documents to incorporate a company
called Bedford Holdings & Investments, which would be "held in confidence by
the bank and can only be disclosed after a complicated procedure by the Bank
of Israel, if there is evidence that the monies resulted from criminal
activities, such as drugs -- tax matters are not an issue." Much like
Switzerland, Israel has laws that protect investors, and the country does
not investigate monetary origins, even on suspicion of tax fraud.

"So, we wanted to basically set everything up the same way as it was
before," Kasirer told Roth in the affidavit transcripts. Later in the
document, he tells Zigelman that Kantor set up a trust in Israel so that
nothing would be left in Kasirer's name in order to hide his money from the
SEC. Then he'd take a loan from the Los Angeles branch of an unnamed Israeli
bank, "so I can use the money here." Later, he says in the affidavit, he
would take the money back from Israel and repay the loan here.

Mizrahi Bank, which is never named in the affidavit, is under investigation
by the federal government, according to Assistant U.S. Attorney O'Brien.

"We believe the bank offers this thing as a product to clients in the
U.S. -- the bank pitches this as a money-laundering product. I believe there
are multiple agents involved," O'Brien said, including Kantor.

The government also believes that there are many people like Kasirer, "who
occupy the same role as he did in this conspiracy," O'Brien said.

But Kasirer was not the creator of this conspiracy, according to the
government. His father -- the recently deceased Jacob (Yankel) Kasirer who
founded the Bais Yaakov School for Girls on Beverly Boulevard in Los Angeles
and is known as a "stalwart" of the Jewish community -- was involved with
the scheme. According to the transcripts, when Kasirer was discussing his
distress over his earlier money-laundering penalty with Lazar, the diamond
dealer said, "It's not something you started."

Kasirer replied, "I was really not aware of what he did with my father."

In addition, in a taped conversation, the Spinka Rebbe told Kasirer he
wanted to meet with his father.

"RK's father was engaged in this prior to RK being involved in it," O'Brien
said in an interview. "We believe that this has origins much earlier than
that -- beyond living memory."




CRIME IS NOT SO BAD

"There are a million ways that religious institutions defraud the
government," said one Brooklyn accountant who asked that his name be
withheld. However, it's not just the Jews, he claimed, "churches do the same
thing." Churches and synagogues are exempt from filing tax returns -- 
although many do -- and the government usually does not audit unless it has
probable cause. As a result, this can make fraud easier.

In the last decade or so, a number of Chasidic institutions on the East
Coast have been charged with such crimes, including the 1997 case against
the Skverer Hasidim in Rockland County, N.Y., where four men were found
guilty of defrauding the government of millions of dollars in federal Pell
Grants. But in the Orthodox community, many defended them, despite the
crime, because the money was used to support needy yeshiva students.

"Nobody here owns a yacht," a resident reportedly said, and the feeling
then -- as with many such institutional fraud cases -- that if the money is
used to help the community and not line someone's pockets, it's not so bad.

That, in fact, is a pervasive attitude these days in Brooklyn, where the
Spinka case raised fewer eyebrows than in Los Angeles, because the attitude
is everyone does something. This kind of discussion has been a hot topic on
many Internet blogs that discuss the ultra-Orthodox community.

"The government are thieves, what gives them the right to take 40 percent to
50 percent of someone's income? Anyone who can save yiddishe gelt from going
down that toilet is doing a mitzvah," one contributor wrote on the
Vosizneias (Yiddish for "What Is News?") blog.

The blog comments, though, seem to be about evenly divided between two
camps: On one hand are those castigating the government or the bloggers
posting the news for spreading gossip; on the other are those demanding that
the community finally put a stop to criminal behavior.

One particularly poignant plea came from New York white-collar defense
attorney Joel Cohen, in an essay published in 2006 titled, "Jewish Felons:
The Problem of Criminality in Observant Communities." Cohen described
witnessing a disturbing rise in crime among Orthodox and Chasidic Jews.

"The problem in the observant community, however, is not merely occasional,
nor does it often make headlines. Daily, in metropolises around the country,
yarmulka-wearing criminal defendants appear before the bar of justice," he
wrote.

Some prisons -- especially in New York, Los Angeles and Miami -- have daily
minyans, visiting rabbis, kosher food, classes and Shabbat meals, Cohen
wrote. "The most common charge is fraud: against businessmen and
run-of-the-mill citizens alike, most frequently involving victims outside of
the Jewish community, against the government, against insurance carriers,
against banking institutions, health care fraud, money-laundering and
stock-swindling."

Cohen pleads with his fellow Orthodox Jews to denounce the criminal
activity:

"Only with the open denouncement of wrongdoing from within the particular
observant community can the community hope to demonstrate and protect the
Torah's commitment to honesty in one's interpersonal dealings as being at
least equal to, if not greater than, its commitment to technical observance
of mitzvoth," he wrote



DON'T BLAME THE MESSENGER

But the most talked-about aspect of the case -- both among bloggers and at
Shabbat tables on both coasts -- has been the involvement of Kasirer. From
the start, most here guessed accurately who he was -- an informant who
turned state's evidence to save his own skin -- but what they wanted to know
was what was he? Was he a moser -- an informer, who, according to
traditional Jewish law, must be killed for turning against a Jew and is
denied access to "the world to come."

The Talmud forbids a Jew to inform on another Jew to a secular government,
even if that Jew violated both secular and Jewish law.

Today, among poskim -- Orthodox rabbinic deciders -- there is a debate over
whether a Jew may turn in another Jew in a democratic state. Some rabbis say
that laws of moser do not hold in the United States because they were
established to protect Jews from corrupt and anti-Semitic governments that
would likely torture and give Jews worse treatment than other prisoners than
merited by Jewish law.

This is not the case today in a democracy, they say. "These rules apply only
to one who informs on another to bandits and so endangers that person's
money and life, as these bandits chase after a person's body and money, and
thus one may use deadly force to save oneself," it is written in the Aruch
Hashulchan, ("Laying the Table," a book about Jewish law written in the late
19th century).

But many insist that the laws of moser do apply today, and that it is
forbidden by Jewish law for one Jew to inform on another to any secular
government.

Rabbi Ezra Batzri in "Dinnai Mamonut" ("Laws of Money") says informing is
prohibited. "All rules of informing are applicable even currently .... Even
if they bring all matter to court, it is clear that, through interrogation
and the police, government can destroy people, and in many places they do,
in fact, destroy people."

Some rabbis say you cannot be a moser, even in America, except when the
person doing the questionable act may be a danger to others -- a child
molester, a rapist, a murderer. In those cases, it would be "permitted" to
inform the authorities, writes Rabbi Hershel Schacther, a top posek. Which
means that in the case of financial wrongdoings, a Jew is not allowed to
inform on another Jew.

When the Spinka case broke, the Rabbinical Council of California (RCC)
discussed the informant issue, RCC President Rabbi Meyer May said. But the
council decided to let other halachic authorities deal with the question.

"There is no way to explain how perfidious what RK did is. He violated the
spirit of Jewish law," May said. "Having said that, it doesn't justify what
was done on the other side [by the defendants]."

Although many were focusing on the moser and other justifications like
"everybody does it" and "we pay more taxes than everyone else," that is
beside the point, May said. The point, he continued, is to own up to any
wrongdoings. "Our business is the integrity [of the individual]," he said.
"Something which is wrong is wrong."

Still, others, like lawyer and blog commentator Cohen, argue that it is
precisely such concern about laws like that of moser -- which forbid a Jew
to turn in another Jew to authorities, and chilul Hashem, desecrating God's
name in public, which has created an atmosphere were people are more
concerned with protecting their own than following the laws of the U.S.
government.

"To ignore crime within our ranks does us a great disservice, both because
it weakens us as a community and because tolerating it suggests to the
outside world that Judaism does not promote a righteous moral compass,"
Cohen wrote.



BUSINESS AS USUAL

On Monday morning, Dec. 31, the streets of downtown Los Angeles were eerily
empty; nearly everyone had left town. But the Roybal Federal Courthouse was
open, and by 8:30 a.m. there were enough Chasidic men in the third-floor
corridor for a minyan: 11 -- not to mention a few clean-shaven men wearing
black yarmulkes -- all waiting for the morning's arraignment hearings to
begin.

Grand Spinka Rebbe Weisz didn't converse much with his gabbai Zigelman. The
men pored over Hebrew books -- either studying holy texts or reciting
psalms -- and intermittently conversed with the lawyers. It would be an hour
until the court would open and another until their own hearing would begin.

Everyone was anxious for the hearing to start -- not because of the upcoming
secular New Year, which the ultra-Orthodox do not celebrate -- but so that
they could return to their homes and to their lives in Brooklyn.

The seven men had been arrested and jailed on Dec. 19, a Wednesday, and most
were released before Shabbat.

Weisz and Zeligman had spent another Shabbat in Los Angeles, detained until
the arraignment. The Spinka Rebbe attended Rabbi Chaim Boruch Rubin's
synagogue in Hancock Park -- which itself is entangled in a legal battle
over land use -- and was given the honor of leading services. At this, a few
men walked out in protest.

"As a parent in the community and as a rabbi in the community, since there
were children in the room and since we have an obligation to teach our
children right and wrong," one person who left quietly said later. "I have
no problem [with the Spinka Rebbe] sitting in the front in his normal
[honored] seat," but the man who walked out said he would have preferred
"one stage less than normal" to show children "that it's not business as
usual."

When the court opened for the hearing, most of the defendants and their
supporters filed into the first row of the courtroom, except for the
clean-shaven Friedman, who sat in the back, a few seats away from Zeivald,
who was accompanied by an Israeli translator.

A Yiddish translator sat next to the Spinka Rebbe, and only Roth, the
Israeli banker, came from the entrance behind a glass partition, clad in
green prison outfit. He was the only one not yet released on bail, at the
time, because the government said he was believed to pose a flight risk.
Roth remains in custody.

Finally, their turn arrived. The seven filed up front, each with his
separate lawyers. (Famed lawyer Donald Etra, who was originally retained to
defend Weisz, was by then no longer on the case). They each declined to have
the charges read to them.

"How do you plead?" Magistrate Judge Alicia G. Rosenberg asked.

One by one, Weisz, Zigelman, Naiman, Zievald, Friedman, Lazar and Roth each
said: "Not guilty."

By 11 a.m., they filed out of the courtroom.

By Shabbat, Jan. 4, the Grand Spinka Rebbe was back in Boro Park to lead his
congregation. He's free on $2 million bail, allowed to travel for work in
New York and New Jersey, and of course, to California, where he and
Zigelman, among others, await trial.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinka_financial_controversy

This is similar to the TAX FRAUD involving Ken McVay & B'nai Brith!!




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Subject: ZYD/Jew money laundering ring busted,
stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to Israel
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:58:29 -0500

U.S. Attorney General's Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District
Court for the Central District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva 
and
four other Spinka organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion
dollar tax fraud and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to
Los Angeles to Israel and elsewhere.

http://www.jewishjournal.com/home/preview.php?id=18767

2008-01-11

The Spinka money trail -- and the informant who brought them down

By Amy Klein, Religion Editor

Spinka defendants and supporters as they cross the street to the federal
courthouse in downtown Los Angeles on Dec. 31, 2007. Courthouse photos by
Dan Kacvinski

The first snow flutters hesitantly in Brooklyn. Men wearing fur streimel
hats and women wearing sheitls walk briskly past the corner of 15th Avenue
and 58th Street in Boro Park as if nothing extraordinary has happened here.

And why not? The kosher shops of this self-contained ultra-Orthodox
neighborhood -- practically a city onto itself -- are still a few blocks
down, and here on this bleak corner, there are only three orange school
buses parked in front of a four-story, dark-red brick building, which sits
on a residential street, where tall, narrow houses nearly overlap. The
structure (photo below) is rather nondescript and unimposing -- garbage 
bags
are piled haphazardly by a front gate, bars protect the windows, young boys
can be heard chanting from behind the locked door and a white sign with sky
blue Hebrew lettering reads: "Yeshiva Imrei Yosef Spinka."


A buzzer sounds. The door opens. No one asks who rang the bell. Up the four
steps, a reception window sits empty. Hazy yellow fluorescent lights
illuminate the narrow hallways adorned with graying yellow paint and frayed
industrial carpeting. If there are millions -- or even thousands -- of
dollars going to the Spinka yeshiva, it certainly doesn't seem like it's
coming here.

This despite the fact that on Dec. 19, 2007, the U.S. Attorney General's
Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District Court for the Central
District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva and four other Spinka
organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion dollar tax fraud
and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to
Israel and elsewhere.

Two of those indicted are Rabbi Naftali Tzi Weisz, 59, the Grand Rabbi of
Spinka, a Brooklyn-based Chasidic sect, whose yeshiva is in this
undistinguished building, and his gabbai (assistant), Moshe Zigelman, 60.

Weisz is just one of a number of Grand Rebbes of Spinka, a Chasidic sect
that originated in Romania in the 19th century. He is the
great-great-grandson of the founding rabbi, and one of about a dozen Grand
Spinka Rebbes who live in Boro Park or Williamsburg, in Brooklyn, or Bnei
Brak and Jerusalem in Israel.

Four Los Angeles men were among those charged with taking part in the
scheme: Yaacov (Yankel) Zeivald, 43, a self-described scribe (sofer) from
Valley Village (photo, right); Yosef Nachum Naiman, 55, the owner of Shatz
Et Naiman, d.b.a. Jerusalem Tours; Alan Jay Friedman, 43, a businessman 
from
Pico-Robertson who sits on the board of the Orthodox Union; and Moshe 
Lazar,
60, owner of Lazar Diamonds, a Los Angeles jewelry company.

Although many of the details of the case have not yet been revealed -- a
trial date is set for Feb. 12, but the defendants' lawyers say it will be
postponed at least a year -- what is emerging from the indictment, the
search warrant and other documents of public record is a complex
money-laundering scheme. According to the documents, people donated money 
to
the Spinka institutions but then received 80 percent to 95 percent of their
donations back, yet wrote off the full amount on their taxes.

These charges are just the beginning of a much larger case, Daniel J.
O'Brien, an assistant U.S. attorney in the major frauds section, based in
Los Angeles, said in an interview with The Journal.

"There were many other people that contributed in this fashion that would 
be
the subject of government investigations," O'Brien said.

While O'Brien said he has documentation that the Spinka institutions took 
in
about $750,000 through the scheme -- then writing receipts for $8.7
million -- in 2007 alone, the assistant U.S. attorney believes the fraud 
has
been going on for decades: "I believe this goes on beyond living memory,"
possibly for generations.

This is certainly not the first time an ultra-Orthodox sect has been 
accused
of attempting to break the laws of the secular government -- aramos, or
schemes, were perpetrated over the centuries in the shtetls of Europe. In
the last decade, arrests have occurred in religious communities in 
Brooklyn,
Lakewood, N.J., and upstate New York.

However, this particular case has shocked Los Angeles' ultra-Orthodox
community, not only because Los Angeles had largely been exempt from such
cases in the past, but also because some of the city's prominent members
have been charged as being at the center of the scheme.

As a result, the case has sparked a fierce debate about the type of 
behavior
that is acceptable for observant people and what type of religious 
community
Los Angeles would like to be. But there's also debate about the laws of a
moser, an informant, because one person who was not charged was the primary
source of information for the federal case -- though he allegedly started
out as one of the perpetrators.



THE BEGINNING

On June 29, 2004, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission filed civil
fraud charges against Robert A. Kasirer and four executives of Heritage
Healthcare of America, which sold $131 million in bonds to 1,800 investors
in 36 states from 1996-1999, claiming that the money would be used to fund
10 health care facilities. In October of that year, Kasirer approached the
federal government and "expressed a desire to plead guilty to criminal
charges arising out of the investigation and agreed to reveal other 
criminal
conduct he and others had committed, with a view that any sentence he might
receive would be reduced," according to an affidavit for a search warrant
submitted by FBI Special Agent Ryan Heaton on Dec. 18, 2007.

Although the search warrant affidavit identifies Kasirer only as
"confidential witness (CW-1)" and the recent grand jury indictment refers 
to
a witness named only as RK, the companies in the affidavit attributed to
CW-1 and RK are run by Kasirer, and several members of the Los Angeles
community, who asked for confidentiality, have confirmed his involvement.

In 2004, under federal surveillance, the informant identified in the
transcript as CW-1 resumed activities he admitted to having conducted with
the Spinka since 1990, in which "he caused several million dollars in
contributions to be mailed to the tax-exempt organizations operating within
the umbrella of Spinka," he is quoted in federal documents as having told
the FBI.

As part of the scam, Weisz and Zigelman allegedly would return 80 to 95
percent of Kasirer's contributions.

On Oct. 31, 2007, the SEC issued a final judgment against Kasirer, ordering
him to pay $4,991,434.

"Kasirer consented to the entry of the final judgment without admitting or
denying the allegations contained in the commission's case," according to
the SEC enforcement proceedings.

In the interim, according to the transcripts, Kasirer began to wear a 
device
to record his interactions for the government. On Dec. 20, 2004, he told
Zigelman, the Spinka rebbe's gabbai, that he never intended to pay the SEC.

According to the wiretapped transcripts, Kasirer told Zigelman: "The SEC
investigation is done. But they want me to pay them a lot of money."

"How much?" Zigelman asked.

"Possibly one, one and a half," Kasirer said.

"Million?" Zigelman asked.

Kasirer confirmed the amount and said he had told the SEC he didn't have 
the
money. In the transcript, Kasirer then went on to say that he'd lied to the
SEC, and that, in fact he had the money but wanted to hide that fact.

"What is SEC?" Zigelman asked.

Kasirer explained, and Zigelman replied, "Yes, yes, but you don't have to
give it to them."

For the next three years, Kasirer recorded conversations with targets of 
the
government investigation, and, using government funds, conducted a dozen
monetary transactions with Zigelman, according to transcripts of
conversations conducted in English, Hebrew, Yiddish and Hungarian. The
government also tapped the phones of Zigelman and Weisz.



CASH OR CHARGE?

For Kasirer, there were two ways the operation worked: At first he
reportedly received his "donations" back in cash, and when he became
uncomfortable with the large cash amounts floating around, he set up an
Israeli account.

According to the transcripts, Kasirer's money was allegedly refunded to him
by various men, all now defendants in the case: Naiman, Zeivald, Friedman
and Lazar, all of whom have pleaded not guilty to the charges against them.

Among the transactions in the transcripts, for example, was one on Feb. 8,
2007. Kasirer FedEx-ed a check for $20,000 made out to Yeshiva Imrei Yosef
to Zigelman. On Feb. 15, 2007, Lazar delivered $18,600 to Kasirer's house.
On Feb. 22, 2007, Kasirer got a letter in the mail on a Yeshiva Imrei Yosef
Spinka letterhead thanking Kasirer for his $20,000 donation to a tax-exempt
organization, saying the "donation" was entirely tax deductible and Kasirer
had received no "goods" or "services" in exchange for the contribution.

The Spinka Yeshiva charged Kasirer up to 7.5 percent for laundering the
money, which was a cause for some dispute, according to the wiretaps.

On Dec. 16, 2005, Kasirer told Joseph Roth, an assistant manager at Bank
Mizrahi -- which is based in Israel but has a branch in Los Angeles -- to
set up a new account so he could move money internationally.

On Jan. 12, 2006, Tel Aviv lawyer Jacob Kantor -- the only one of those
named in the indictment who is still at large -- is reported in the
transcripts offering to Kasirer to create documents to incorporate a 
company
called Bedford Holdings & Investments, which would be "held in confidence 
by
the bank and can only be disclosed after a complicated procedure by the 
Bank
of Israel, if there is evidence that the monies resulted from criminal
activities, such as drugs -- tax matters are not an issue." Much like
Switzerland, Israel has laws that protect investors, and the country does
not investigate monetary origins, even on suspicion of tax fraud.

"So, we wanted to basically set everything up the same way as it was
before," Kasirer told Roth in the affidavit transcripts. Later in the
document, he tells Zigelman that Kantor set up a trust in Israel so that
nothing would be left in Kasirer's name in order to hide his money from the
SEC. Then he'd take a loan from the Los Angeles branch of an unnamed 
Israeli
bank, "so I can use the money here." Later, he says in the affidavit, he
would take the money back from Israel and repay the loan here.

Mizrahi Bank, which is never named in the affidavit, is under investigation
by the federal government, according to Assistant U.S. Attorney O'Brien.

"We believe the bank offers this thing as a product to clients in the
U.S. -- the bank pitches this as a money-laundering product. I believe 
there
are multiple agents involved," O'Brien said, including Kantor.

The government also believes that there are many people like Kasirer, "who
occupy the same role as he did in this conspiracy," O'Brien said.

But Kasirer was not the creator of this conspiracy, according to the
government. His father -- the recently deceased Jacob (Yankel) Kasirer who
founded the Bais Yaakov School for Girls on Beverly Boulevard in Los 
Angeles
and is known as a "stalwart" of the Jewish community -- was involved with
the scheme. According to the transcripts, when Kasirer was discussing his
distress over his earlier money-laundering penalty with Lazar, the diamond
dealer said, "It's not something you started."

Kasirer replied, "I was really not aware of what he did with my father."

In addition, in a taped conversation, the Spinka Rebbe told Kasirer he
wanted to meet with his father.

"RK's father was engaged in this prior to RK being involved in it," O'Brien
said in an interview. "We believe that this has origins much earlier than
that -- beyond living memory."




CRIME IS NOT SO BAD

"There are a million ways that religious institutions defraud the
government," said one Brooklyn accountant who asked that his name be
withheld. However, it's not just the Jews, he claimed, "churches do the 
same
thing." Churches and synagogues are exempt from filing tax returns --
although many do -- and the government usually does not audit unless it has
probable cause. As a result, this can make fraud easier.

In the last decade or so, a number of Chasidic institutions on the East
Coast have been charged with such crimes, including the 1997 case against
the Skverer Hasidim in Rockland County, N.Y., where four men were found
guilty of defrauding the government of millions of dollars in federal Pell
Grants. But in the Orthodox community, many defended them, despite the
crime, because the money was used to support needy yeshiva students.

"Nobody here owns a yacht," a resident reportedly said, and the feeling
then -- as with many such institutional fraud cases -- that if the money is
used to help the community and not line someone's pockets, it's not so bad.

That, in fact, is a pervasive attitude these days in Brooklyn, where the
Spinka case raised fewer eyebrows than in Los Angeles, because the attitude
is everyone does something. This kind of discussion has been a hot topic on
many Internet blogs that discuss the ultra-Orthodox community.

"The government are thieves, what gives them the right to take 40 percent 
to
50 percent of someone's income? Anyone who can save yiddishe gelt from 
going
down that toilet is doing a mitzvah," one contributor wrote on the
Vosizneias (Yiddish for "What Is News?") blog.

The blog comments, though, seem to be about evenly divided between two
camps: On one hand are those castigating the government or the bloggers
posting the news for spreading gossip; on the other are those demanding 
that
the community finally put a stop to criminal behavior.

One particularly poignant plea came from New York white-collar defense
attorney Joel Cohen, in an essay published in 2006 titled, "Jewish Felons:
The Problem of Criminality in Observant Communities." Cohen described
witnessing a disturbing rise in crime among Orthodox and Chasidic Jews.

"The problem in the observant community, however, is not merely occasional,
nor does it often make headlines. Daily, in metropolises around the 
country,
yarmulka-wearing criminal defendants appear before the bar of justice," he
wrote.

Some prisons -- especially in New York, Los Angeles and Miami -- have daily
minyans, visiting rabbis, kosher food, classes and Shabbat meals, Cohen
wrote. "The most common charge is fraud: against businessmen and
run-of-the-mill citizens alike, most frequently involving victims outside 
of
the Jewish community, against the government, against insurance carriers,
against banking institutions, health care fraud, money-laundering and
stock-swindling."

Cohen pleads with his fellow Orthodox Jews to denounce the criminal
activity:

"Only with the open denouncement of wrongdoing from within the particular
observant community can the community hope to demonstrate and protect the
Torah's commitment to honesty in one's interpersonal dealings as being at
least equal to, if not greater than, its commitment to technical observance
of mitzvoth," he wrote



DON'T BLAME THE MESSENGER

But the most talked-about aspect of the case -- both among bloggers and at
Shabbat tables on both coasts -- has been the involvement of Kasirer. From
the start, most here guessed accurately who he was -- an informant who
turned state's evidence to save his own skin -- but what they wanted to 
know
was what was he? Was he a moser -- an informer, who, according to
traditional Jewish law, must be killed for turning against a Jew and is
denied access to "the world to come."

The Talmud forbids a Jew to inform on another Jew to a secular government,
even if that Jew violated both secular and Jewish law.

Today, among poskim -- Orthodox rabbinic deciders -- there is a debate over
whether a Jew may turn in another Jew in a democratic state. Some rabbis 
say
that laws of moser do not hold in the United States because they were
established to protect Jews from corrupt and anti-Semitic governments that
would likely torture and give Jews worse treatment than other prisoners 
than
merited by Jewish law.

This is not the case today in a democracy, they say. "These rules apply 
only
to one who informs on another to bandits and so endangers that person's
money and life, as these bandits chase after a person's body and money, and
thus one may use deadly force to save oneself," it is written in the Aruch
Hashulchan, ("Laying the Table," a book about Jewish law written in the 
late
19th century).

But many insist that the laws of moser do apply today, and that it is
forbidden by Jewish law for one Jew to inform on another to any secular
government.

Rabbi Ezra Batzri in "Dinnai Mamonut" ("Laws of Money") says informing is
prohibited. "All rules of informing are applicable even currently .... Even
if they bring all matter to court, it is clear that, through interrogation
and the police, government can destroy people, and in many places they do,
in fact, destroy people."

Some rabbis say you cannot be a moser, even in America, except when the
person doing the questionable act may be a danger to others -- a child
molester, a rapist, a murderer. In those cases, it would be "permitted" to
inform the authorities, writes Rabbi Hershel Schacther, a top posek. Which
means that in the case of financial wrongdoings, a Jew is not allowed to
inform on another Jew.

When the Spinka case broke, the Rabbinical Council of California (RCC)
discussed the informant issue, RCC President Rabbi Meyer May said. But the
council decided to let other halachic authorities deal with the question.

"There is no way to explain how perfidious what RK did is. He violated the
spirit of Jewish law," May said. "Having said that, it doesn't justify what
was done on the other side [by the defendants]."

Although many were focusing on the moser and other justifications like
"everybody does it" and "we pay more taxes than everyone else," that is
beside the point, May said. The point, he continued, is to own up to any
wrongdoings. "Our business is the integrity [of the individual]," he said.
"Something which is wrong is wrong."

Still, others, like lawyer and blog commentator Cohen, argue that it is
precisely such concern about laws like that of moser -- which forbid a Jew
to turn in another Jew to authorities, and chilul Hashem, desecrating God's
name in public, which has created an atmosphere were people are more
concerned with protecting their own than following the laws of the U.S.
government.

"To ignore crime within our ranks does us a great disservice, both because
it weakens us as a community and because tolerating it suggests to the
outside world that Judaism does not promote a righteous moral compass,"
Cohen wrote.



BUSINESS AS USUAL

On Monday morning, Dec. 31, the streets of downtown Los Angeles were eerily
empty; nearly everyone had left town. But the Roybal Federal Courthouse was
open, and by 8:30 a.m. there were enough Chasidic men in the third-floor
corridor for a minyan: 11 -- not to mention a few clean-shaven men wearing
black yarmulkes -- all waiting for the morning's arraignment hearings to
begin.

Grand Spinka Rebbe Weisz didn't converse much with his gabbai Zigelman. The
men pored over Hebrew books -- either studying holy texts or reciting
psalms -- and intermittently conversed with the lawyers. It would be an 
hour
until the court would open and another until their own hearing would begin.

Everyone was anxious for the hearing to start -- not because of the 
upcoming
secular New Year, which the ultra-Orthodox do not celebrate -- but so that
they could return to their homes and to their lives in Brooklyn.

The seven men had been arrested and jailed on Dec. 19, a Wednesday, and 
most
were released before Shabbat.

Weisz and Zeligman had spent another Shabbat in Los Angeles, detained until
the arraignment. The Spinka Rebbe attended Rabbi Chaim Boruch Rubin's
synagogue in Hancock Park -- which itself is entangled in a legal battle
over land use -- and was given the honor of leading services. At this, a 
few
men walked out in protest.

"As a parent in the community and as a rabbi in the community, since there
were children in the room and since we have an obligation to teach our
children right and wrong," one person who left quietly said later. "I have
no problem [with the Spinka Rebbe] sitting in the front in his normal
[honored] seat," but the man who walked out said he would have preferred
"one stage less than normal" to show children "that it's not business as
usual."

When the court opened for the hearing, most of the defendants and their
supporters filed into the first row of the courtroom, except for the
clean-shaven Friedman, who sat in the back, a few seats away from Zeivald,
who was accompanied by an Israeli translator.

A Yiddish translator sat next to the Spinka Rebbe, and only Roth, the
Israeli banker, came from the entrance behind a glass partition, clad in
green prison outfit. He was the only one not yet released on bail, at the
time, because the government said he was believed to pose a flight risk.
Roth remains in custody.

Finally, their turn arrived. The seven filed up front, each with his
separate lawyers. (Famed lawyer Donald Etra, who was originally retained to
defend Weisz, was by then no longer on the case). They each declined to 
have
the charges read to them.

"How do you plead?" Magistrate Judge Alicia G. Rosenberg asked.

One by one, Weisz, Zigelman, Naiman, Zievald, Friedman, Lazar and Roth each
said: "Not guilty."

By 11 a.m., they filed out of the courtroom.

By Shabbat, Jan. 4, the Grand Spinka Rebbe was back in Boro Park to lead 
his
congregation. He's free on $2 million bail, allowed to travel for work in
New York and New Jersey, and of course, to California, where he and
Zigelman, among others, await trial.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinka_financial_controversy

This is similar to the TAX FRAUD involving Ken McVay & B'nai Brith!!


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for JEW-WATCH:
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PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
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From: Frank Arthur 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,alt.revisionism,soc.culture.palestine
Subject: Mcvay/Nizkor & Harry Mazal/BB Engaged in Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING! PROOF!!
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Mcvay and his  one fag  business Nizkor, [where only gay McVay 
gets paid there], together with Harry Mazal/BB ARE Engaged 
in completely Illegal  MONEY LAUNDERING and tax frauds! 

They are being considered for  prosecution in both USA & Canada!

Proof is from McVay's & Harry Mazal's  own postings detailing his money
laundering!

Time for the Auditor-General of Canada to get the RCMP, and Interpol 
plus IRS and RICO onto McVay and his criminal money laundering activities.

With Bnai Brith involved, and Harry Mazal in the USA, there must be
many, many millions of dollars for the tax authorities to recover,
including from those donors who supported all the criminality!!

No wonder BB are not happy at all the government investigations of the scam!

Links to Doc Tavish posts which give proof to McVay's criminality and 
money being laundered:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/5e2047e8f5129b1a?fwc=1
Subject: Nizkor Project Director Kenneth McVay is a Mamzer Totally 
Owned and Controlled by Jews   v3.0   U0221
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:43:31 -0600
Message-ID: 

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/1d1cf50fcc74cca7?fwc=1
Subject: $50,000+ Not Reported to CCRA by The Nizkor Project? Nizkor 
Director Ken McVay is Lying About Funds
He Has Apparently NOT Reported to CCRA!! SAAF Reports are Further 
Proof! V5.0 U_0122
Message-ID: 
Date: 22 Jan 2006 09:24:36 GMT
                  Two Companion pieces to the above:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/af974e5ec5085cce?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: McVaySlamDunked_A5 and McVaySlamDunked_A6)
Subject: SAAF San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund  -- Some New 
Archives and The Same Funding Lie by
Ken McVay Exposed V3-0   T_0822
Message-ID: <3i9lg1p8efhpoda0r07vatjs87jmr1pfb3@4ax.com>
Date: 23 Aug 2005 04:32:17 GMT
------------------------------AND-------------------------------
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/2a8fb4468666dd3?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Caught Lying About San Antonio 
Connection! (Those Two U.S. Servers!)
V3.0  Updated Links T_0625
Message-ID: 
Date: 26 Jun 2005 02:36:20 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
Subject: Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam? 
You All be the Judges!  V2-0
Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com>
Date: 26 Jun 2005 18:49:41 GMT
  (Actually the Nizkor Endowment Fund and the Nizkor Trust Fund 
should both be renamed the Kenneth McVay
Endowment Fund and the Kenneth McVay Trust Fund seeing how the Nizkor 
Project is a web site solely operated
by Kenneth McVay from a back room of his personal residence. McVay is 
the sole recipient and beneficiary of
those two "bogus" funds!)
  Why Ken Lewis was so vicious in his attacks against me in his 
defense of McVay; he's evidently getting some
of that laundered money too as indicated here:
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a76ebe4ccbcb71ee?fwc=1
Subject: Ken Lewis' Famous Last Words RE Ken McVay's Address AND Ken 
Lewis Benefitting from McVay's
Funding Scams?   V2.0  T_1227
Message-ID: 
Date: 28 Dec 2005 05:21:28 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Apparent Funding Kick Backs and 
Tax Scam  V2.0
Message-ID: 
Date: 26 Jun 2005 03:06:12 GMT
  (The above details and documents the tax scheme invented and 
currently perpetrated by B'nai Brith Canada and
Kenneth McVay's Nizkor Project in which B'nai Brith launders exempt 
donations and passes them to McVay as
tax free even though Ken McVay is not legally allowed to receive 
exempt donations. This is more or less a similar
tax scheme which resulted in criminal prosecutions.)


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant



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From: Frank Arthur 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,alt.revisionism,soc.culture.palestine
Subject: Mcvay/Nizkor & Harry Mazal/BB Engaged in Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING! PROOF!!
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Mcvay and his  one fag  business Nizkor, [where only  McVay 
gets paid there], together with Harry Mazal/BB ARE Engaged 
in completely Illegal  MONEY LAUNDERING and tax frauds! 

They are being considered for  prosecution in both USA & Canada!

Proof is from McVay's & Harry Mazal's  own postings detailing his money
laundering!

Time for the Auditor-General of Canada to get the RCMP, and Interpol 
plus IRS and RICO onto McVay and his criminal money laundering activities.

With Bnai Brith involved, and Harry Mazal in the USA, there must be
many, many millions of dollars for the tax authorities to recover,
including from those donors who supported all the criminality!!

No wonder BB are not happy at all the government investigations of the scam!

Links to Doc Tavish posts which give proof to McVay's criminality and 
money being laundered:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/5e2047e8f5129b1a?fwc=1
Subject: Nizkor Project Director Kenneth McVay is a Mamzer Totally 
Owned and Controlled by Jews   v3.0   U0221
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:43:31 -0600
Message-ID: 

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/1d1cf50fcc74cca7?fwc=1
Subject: $50,000+ Not Reported to CCRA by The Nizkor Project? Nizkor 
Director Ken McVay is Lying About Funds
He Has Apparently NOT Reported to CCRA!! SAAF Reports are Further 
Proof! V5.0 U_0122
Message-ID: 
Date: 22 Jan 2006 09:24:36 GMT
                  Two Companion pieces to the above:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/af974e5ec5085cce?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: McVaySlamDunked_A5 and McVaySlamDunked_A6)
Subject: SAAF San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund  -- Some New 
Archives and The Same Funding Lie by
Ken McVay Exposed V3-0   T_0822
Message-ID: <3i9lg1p8efhpoda0r07vatjs87jmr1pfb3@4ax.com>
Date: 23 Aug 2005 04:32:17 GMT
------------------------------AND-------------------------------
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/2a8fb4468666dd3?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Caught Lying About San Antonio 
Connection! (Those Two U.S. Servers!)
V3.0  Updated Links T_0625
Message-ID: 
Date: 26 Jun 2005 02:36:20 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
Subject: Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam? 
You All be the Judges!  V2-0
Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com>
Date: 26 Jun 2005 18:49:41 GMT
  (Actually the Nizkor Endowment Fund and the Nizkor Trust Fund 
should both be renamed the Kenneth McVay
Endowment Fund and the Kenneth McVay Trust Fund seeing how the Nizkor 
Project is a web site solely operated
by Kenneth McVay from a back room of his personal residence. McVay is 
the sole recipient and beneficiary of
those two "bogus" funds!)
  Why Ken Lewis was so vicious in his attacks against me in his 
defense of McVay; he's evidently getting some
of that laundered money too as indicated here:
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a76ebe4ccbcb71ee?fwc=1
Subject: Ken Lewis' Famous Last Words RE Ken McVay's Address AND Ken 
Lewis Benefitting from McVay's
Funding Scams?   V2.0  T_1227
Message-ID: 
Date: 28 Dec 2005 05:21:28 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Apparent Funding Kick Backs and 
Tax Scam  V2.0
Message-ID: 
Date: 26 Jun 2005 03:06:12 GMT
  (The above details and documents the tax scheme invented and 
currently perpetrated by B'nai Brith Canada and
Kenneth McVay's Nizkor Project in which B'nai Brith launders exempt 
donations and passes them to McVay as
tax free even though Ken McVay is not legally allowed to receive 
exempt donations. This is more or less a similar
tax scheme which resulted in criminal prosecutions.)


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant




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From: "Gnostic" 
Subject: ZYD/Jew money laundering ring busted, 
stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to Israel 
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:58:29 -0500

U.S. Attorney General's Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District
Court for the Central District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva and
four other Spinka organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion
dollar tax fraud and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to
Los Angeles to Israel and elsewhere.

http://www.jewishjournal.com/home/preview.php?id=18767

2008-01-11

The Spinka money trail -- and the informant who brought them down

By Amy Klein, Religion Editor

Spinka defendants and supporters as they cross the street to the federal
courthouse in downtown Los Angeles on Dec. 31, 2007. Courthouse photos by
Dan Kacvinski

The first snow flutters hesitantly in Brooklyn. Men wearing fur streimel
hats and women wearing sheitls walk briskly past the corner of 15th Avenue
and 58th Street in Boro Park as if nothing extraordinary has happened here.

And why not? The kosher shops of this self-contained ultra-Orthodox
neighborhood -- practically a city onto itself -- are still a few blocks
down, and here on this bleak corner, there are only three orange school
buses parked in front of a four-story, dark-red brick building, which sits
on a residential street, where tall, narrow houses nearly overlap. The
structure (photo below) is rather nondescript and unimposing -- garbage bags
are piled haphazardly by a front gate, bars protect the windows, young boys
can be heard chanting from behind the locked door and a white sign with sky
blue Hebrew lettering reads: "Yeshiva Imrei Yosef Spinka."


A buzzer sounds. The door opens. No one asks who rang the bell. Up the four
steps, a reception window sits empty. Hazy yellow fluorescent lights
illuminate the narrow hallways adorned with graying yellow paint and frayed
industrial carpeting. If there are millions -- or even thousands -- of
dollars going to the Spinka yeshiva, it certainly doesn't seem like it's
coming here.

This despite the fact that on Dec. 19, 2007, the U.S. Attorney General's
Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District Court for the Central
District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva and four other Spinka
organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion dollar tax fraud
and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to
Israel and elsewhere.

Two of those indicted are Rabbi Naftali Tzi Weisz, 59, the Grand Rabbi of
Spinka, a Brooklyn-based Chasidic sect, whose yeshiva is in this
undistinguished building, and his gabbai (assistant), Moshe Zigelman, 60.

Weisz is just one of a number of Grand Rebbes of Spinka, a Chasidic sect
that originated in Romania in the 19th century. He is the
great-great-grandson of the founding rabbi, and one of about a dozen Grand
Spinka Rebbes who live in Boro Park or Williamsburg, in Brooklyn, or Bnei
Brak and Jerusalem in Israel.

Four Los Angeles men were among those charged with taking part in the
scheme: Yaacov (Yankel) Zeivald, 43, a self-described scribe (sofer) from
Valley Village (photo, right); Yosef Nachum Naiman, 55, the owner of Shatz
Et Naiman, d.b.a. Jerusalem Tours; Alan Jay Friedman, 43, a businessman from
Pico-Robertson who sits on the board of the Orthodox Union; and Moshe Lazar,
60, owner of Lazar Diamonds, a Los Angeles jewelry company.

Although many of the details of the case have not yet been revealed -- a
trial date is set for Feb. 12, but the defendants' lawyers say it will be
postponed at least a year -- what is emerging from the indictment, the
search warrant and other documents of public record is a complex
money-laundering scheme. According to the documents, people donated money to
the Spinka institutions but then received 80 percent to 95 percent of their
donations back, yet wrote off the full amount on their taxes.

These charges are just the beginning of a much larger case, Daniel J.
O'Brien, an assistant U.S. attorney in the major frauds section, based in
Los Angeles, said in an interview with The Journal.

"There were many other people that contributed in this fashion that would be
the subject of government investigations," O'Brien said.

While O'Brien said he has documentation that the Spinka institutions took in
about $750,000 through the scheme -- then writing receipts for $8.7
million -- in 2007 alone, the assistant U.S. attorney believes the fraud has
been going on for decades: "I believe this goes on beyond living memory,"
possibly for generations.

This is certainly not the first time an ultra-Orthodox sect has been accused
of attempting to break the laws of the secular government -- aramos, or
schemes, were perpetrated over the centuries in the shtetls of Europe. In
the last decade, arrests have occurred in religious communities in Brooklyn,
Lakewood, N.J., and upstate New York.

However, this particular case has shocked Los Angeles' ultra-Orthodox
community, not only because Los Angeles had largely been exempt from such
cases in the past, but also because some of the city's prominent members
have been charged as being at the center of the scheme.

As a result, the case has sparked a fierce debate about the type of behavior
that is acceptable for observant people and what type of religious community
Los Angeles would like to be. But there's also debate about the laws of a
moser, an informant, because one person who was not charged was the primary
source of information for the federal case -- though he allegedly started
out as one of the perpetrators.



THE BEGINNING

On June 29, 2004, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission filed civil
fraud charges against Robert A. Kasirer and four executives of Heritage
Healthcare of America, which sold $131 million in bonds to 1,800 investors
in 36 states from 1996-1999, claiming that the money would be used to fund
10 health care facilities. In October of that year, Kasirer approached the
federal government and "expressed a desire to plead guilty to criminal
charges arising out of the investigation and agreed to reveal other criminal
conduct he and others had committed, with a view that any sentence he might
receive would be reduced," according to an affidavit for a search warrant
submitted by FBI Special Agent Ryan Heaton on Dec. 18, 2007.

Although the search warrant affidavit identifies Kasirer only as
"confidential witness (CW-1)" and the recent grand jury indictment refers to
a witness named only as RK, the companies in the affidavit attributed to
CW-1 and RK are run by Kasirer, and several members of the Los Angeles
community, who asked for confidentiality, have confirmed his involvement.

In 2004, under federal surveillance, the informant identified in the
transcript as CW-1 resumed activities he admitted to having conducted with
the Spinka since 1990, in which "he caused several million dollars in
contributions to be mailed to the tax-exempt organizations operating within
the umbrella of Spinka," he is quoted in federal documents as having told
the FBI.

As part of the scam, Weisz and Zigelman allegedly would return 80 to 95
percent of Kasirer's contributions.

On Oct. 31, 2007, the SEC issued a final judgment against Kasirer, ordering
him to pay $4,991,434.

"Kasirer consented to the entry of the final judgment without admitting or
denying the allegations contained in the commission's case," according to
the SEC enforcement proceedings.

In the interim, according to the transcripts, Kasirer began to wear a device
to record his interactions for the government. On Dec. 20, 2004, he told
Zigelman, the Spinka rebbe's gabbai, that he never intended to pay the SEC.

According to the wiretapped transcripts, Kasirer told Zigelman: "The SEC
investigation is done. But they want me to pay them a lot of money."

"How much?" Zigelman asked.

"Possibly one, one and a half," Kasirer said.

"Million?" Zigelman asked.

Kasirer confirmed the amount and said he had told the SEC he didn't have the
money. In the transcript, Kasirer then went on to say that he'd lied to the
SEC, and that, in fact he had the money but wanted to hide that fact.

"What is SEC?" Zigelman asked.

Kasirer explained, and Zigelman replied, "Yes, yes, but you don't have to
give it to them."

For the next three years, Kasirer recorded conversations with targets of the
government investigation, and, using government funds, conducted a dozen
monetary transactions with Zigelman, according to transcripts of
conversations conducted in English, Hebrew, Yiddish and Hungarian. The
government also tapped the phones of Zigelman and Weisz.



CASH OR CHARGE?

For Kasirer, there were two ways the operation worked: At first he
reportedly received his "donations" back in cash, and when he became
uncomfortable with the large cash amounts floating around, he set up an
Israeli account.

According to the transcripts, Kasirer's money was allegedly refunded to him
by various men, all now defendants in the case: Naiman, Zeivald, Friedman
and Lazar, all of whom have pleaded not guilty to the charges against them.

Among the transactions in the transcripts, for example, was one on Feb. 8,
2007. Kasirer FedEx-ed a check for $20,000 made out to Yeshiva Imrei Yosef
to Zigelman. On Feb. 15, 2007, Lazar delivered $18,600 to Kasirer's house.
On Feb. 22, 2007, Kasirer got a letter in the mail on a Yeshiva Imrei Yosef
Spinka letterhead thanking Kasirer for his $20,000 donation to a tax-exempt
organization, saying the "donation" was entirely tax deductible and Kasirer
had received no "goods" or "services" in exchange for the contribution.

The Spinka Yeshiva charged Kasirer up to 7.5 percent for laundering the
money, which was a cause for some dispute, according to the wiretaps.

On Dec. 16, 2005, Kasirer told Joseph Roth, an assistant manager at Bank
Mizrahi -- which is based in Israel but has a branch in Los Angeles -- to
set up a new account so he could move money internationally.

On Jan. 12, 2006, Tel Aviv lawyer Jacob Kantor -- the only one of those
named in the indictment who is still at large -- is reported in the
transcripts offering to Kasirer to create documents to incorporate a company
called Bedford Holdings & Investments, which would be "held in confidence by
the bank and can only be disclosed after a complicated procedure by the Bank
of Israel, if there is evidence that the monies resulted from criminal
activities, such as drugs -- tax matters are not an issue." Much like
Switzerland, Israel has laws that protect investors, and the country does
not investigate monetary origins, even on suspicion of tax fraud.

"So, we wanted to basically set everything up the same way as it was
before," Kasirer told Roth in the affidavit transcripts. Later in the
document, he tells Zigelman that Kantor set up a trust in Israel so that
nothing would be left in Kasirer's name in order to hide his money from the
SEC. Then he'd take a loan from the Los Angeles branch of an unnamed Israeli
bank, "so I can use the money here." Later, he says in the affidavit, he
would take the money back from Israel and repay the loan here.

Mizrahi Bank, which is never named in the affidavit, is under investigation
by the federal government, according to Assistant U.S. Attorney O'Brien.

"We believe the bank offers this thing as a product to clients in the
U.S. -- the bank pitches this as a money-laundering product. I believe there
are multiple agents involved," O'Brien said, including Kantor.

The government also believes that there are many people like Kasirer, "who
occupy the same role as he did in this conspiracy," O'Brien said.

But Kasirer was not the creator of this conspiracy, according to the
government. His father -- the recently deceased Jacob (Yankel) Kasirer who
founded the Bais Yaakov School for Girls on Beverly Boulevard in Los Angeles
and is known as a "stalwart" of the Jewish community -- was involved with
the scheme. According to the transcripts, when Kasirer was discussing his
distress over his earlier money-laundering penalty with Lazar, the diamond
dealer said, "It's not something you started."

Kasirer replied, "I was really not aware of what he did with my father."

In addition, in a taped conversation, the Spinka Rebbe told Kasirer he
wanted to meet with his father.

"RK's father was engaged in this prior to RK being involved in it," O'Brien
said in an interview. "We believe that this has origins much earlier than
that -- beyond living memory."




CRIME IS NOT SO BAD

"There are a million ways that religious institutions defraud the
government," said one Brooklyn accountant who asked that his name be
withheld. However, it's not just the Jews, he claimed, "churches do the same
thing." Churches and synagogues are exempt from filing tax returns -- 
although many do -- and the government usually does not audit unless it has
probable cause. As a result, this can make fraud easier.

In the last decade or so, a number of Chasidic institutions on the East
Coast have been charged with such crimes, including the 1997 case against
the Skverer Hasidim in Rockland County, N.Y., where four men were found
guilty of defrauding the government of millions of dollars in federal Pell
Grants. But in the Orthodox community, many defended them, despite the
crime, because the money was used to support needy yeshiva students.

"Nobody here owns a yacht," a resident reportedly said, and the feeling
then -- as with many such institutional fraud cases -- that if the money is
used to help the community and not line someone's pockets, it's not so bad.

That, in fact, is a pervasive attitude these days in Brooklyn, where the
Spinka case raised fewer eyebrows than in Los Angeles, because the attitude
is everyone does something. This kind of discussion has been a hot topic on
many Internet blogs that discuss the ultra-Orthodox community.

"The government are thieves, what gives them the right to take 40 percent to
50 percent of someone's income? Anyone who can save yiddishe gelt from going
down that toilet is doing a mitzvah," one contributor wrote on the
Vosizneias (Yiddish for "What Is News?") blog.

The blog comments, though, seem to be about evenly divided between two
camps: On one hand are those castigating the government or the bloggers
posting the news for spreading gossip; on the other are those demanding that
the community finally put a stop to criminal behavior.

One particularly poignant plea came from New York white-collar defense
attorney Joel Cohen, in an essay published in 2006 titled, "Jewish Felons:
The Problem of Criminality in Observant Communities." Cohen described
witnessing a disturbing rise in crime among Orthodox and Chasidic Jews.

"The problem in the observant community, however, is not merely occasional,
nor does it often make headlines. Daily, in metropolises around the country,
yarmulka-wearing criminal defendants appear before the bar of justice," he
wrote.

Some prisons -- especially in New York, Los Angeles and Miami -- have daily
minyans, visiting rabbis, kosher food, classes and Shabbat meals, Cohen
wrote. "The most common charge is fraud: against businessmen and
run-of-the-mill citizens alike, most frequently involving victims outside of
the Jewish community, against the government, against insurance carriers,
against banking institutions, health care fraud, money-laundering and
stock-swindling."

Cohen pleads with his fellow Orthodox Jews to denounce the criminal
activity:

"Only with the open denouncement of wrongdoing from within the particular
observant community can the community hope to demonstrate and protect the
Torah's commitment to honesty in one's interpersonal dealings as being at
least equal to, if not greater than, its commitment to technical observance
of mitzvoth," he wrote



DON'T BLAME THE MESSENGER

But the most talked-about aspect of the case -- both among bloggers and at
Shabbat tables on both coasts -- has been the involvement of Kasirer. From
the start, most here guessed accurately who he was -- an informant who
turned state's evidence to save his own skin -- but what they wanted to know
was what was he? Was he a moser -- an informer, who, according to
traditional Jewish law, must be killed for turning against a Jew and is
denied access to "the world to come."

The Talmud forbids a Jew to inform on another Jew to a secular government,
even if that Jew violated both secular and Jewish law.

Today, among poskim -- Orthodox rabbinic deciders -- there is a debate over
whether a Jew may turn in another Jew in a democratic state. Some rabbis say
that laws of moser do not hold in the United States because they were
established to protect Jews from corrupt and anti-Semitic governments that
would likely torture and give Jews worse treatment than other prisoners than
merited by Jewish law.

This is not the case today in a democracy, they say. "These rules apply only
to one who informs on another to bandits and so endangers that person's
money and life, as these bandits chase after a person's body and money, and
thus one may use deadly force to save oneself," it is written in the Aruch
Hashulchan, ("Laying the Table," a book about Jewish law written in the late
19th century).

But many insist that the laws of moser do apply today, and that it is
forbidden by Jewish law for one Jew to inform on another to any secular
government.

Rabbi Ezra Batzri in "Dinnai Mamonut" ("Laws of Money") says informing is
prohibited. "All rules of informing are applicable even currently .... Even
if they bring all matter to court, it is clear that, through interrogation
and the police, government can destroy people, and in many places they do,
in fact, destroy people."

Some rabbis say you cannot be a moser, even in America, except when the
person doing the questionable act may be a danger to others -- a child
molester, a rapist, a murderer. In those cases, it would be "permitted" to
inform the authorities, writes Rabbi Hershel Schacther, a top posek. Which
means that in the case of financial wrongdoings, a Jew is not allowed to
inform on another Jew.

When the Spinka case broke, the Rabbinical Council of California (RCC)
discussed the informant issue, RCC President Rabbi Meyer May said. But the
council decided to let other halachic authorities deal with the question.

"There is no way to explain how perfidious what RK did is. He violated the
spirit of Jewish law," May said. "Having said that, it doesn't justify what
was done on the other side [by the defendants]."

Although many were focusing on the moser and other justifications like
"everybody does it" and "we pay more taxes than everyone else," that is
beside the point, May said. The point, he continued, is to own up to any
wrongdoings. "Our business is the integrity [of the individual]," he said.
"Something which is wrong is wrong."

Still, others, like lawyer and blog commentator Cohen, argue that it is
precisely such concern about laws like that of moser -- which forbid a Jew
to turn in another Jew to authorities, and chilul Hashem, desecrating God's
name in public, which has created an atmosphere were people are more
concerned with protecting their own than following the laws of the U.S.
government.

"To ignore crime within our ranks does us a great disservice, both because
it weakens us as a community and because tolerating it suggests to the
outside world that Judaism does not promote a righteous moral compass,"
Cohen wrote.



BUSINESS AS USUAL

On Monday morning, Dec. 31, the streets of downtown Los Angeles were eerily
empty; nearly everyone had left town. But the Roybal Federal Courthouse was
open, and by 8:30 a.m. there were enough Chasidic men in the third-floor
corridor for a minyan: 11 -- not to mention a few clean-shaven men wearing
black yarmulkes -- all waiting for the morning's arraignment hearings to
begin.

Grand Spinka Rebbe Weisz didn't converse much with his gabbai Zigelman. The
men pored over Hebrew books -- either studying holy texts or reciting
psalms -- and intermittently conversed with the lawyers. It would be an hour
until the court would open and another until their own hearing would begin.

Everyone was anxious for the hearing to start -- not because of the upcoming
secular New Year, which the ultra-Orthodox do not celebrate -- but so that
they could return to their homes and to their lives in Brooklyn.

The seven men had been arrested and jailed on Dec. 19, a Wednesday, and most
were released before Shabbat.

Weisz and Zeligman had spent another Shabbat in Los Angeles, detained until
the arraignment. The Spinka Rebbe attended Rabbi Chaim Boruch Rubin's
synagogue in Hancock Park -- which itself is entangled in a legal battle
over land use -- and was given the honor of leading services. At this, a few
men walked out in protest.

"As a parent in the community and as a rabbi in the community, since there
were children in the room and since we have an obligation to teach our
children right and wrong," one person who left quietly said later. "I have
no problem [with the Spinka Rebbe] sitting in the front in his normal
[honored] seat," but the man who walked out said he would have preferred
"one stage less than normal" to show children "that it's not business as
usual."

When the court opened for the hearing, most of the defendants and their
supporters filed into the first row of the courtroom, except for the
clean-shaven Friedman, who sat in the back, a few seats away from Zeivald,
who was accompanied by an Israeli translator.

A Yiddish translator sat next to the Spinka Rebbe, and only Roth, the
Israeli banker, came from the entrance behind a glass partition, clad in
green prison outfit. He was the only one not yet released on bail, at the
time, because the government said he was believed to pose a flight risk.
Roth remains in custody.

Finally, their turn arrived. The seven filed up front, each with his
separate lawyers. (Famed lawyer Donald Etra, who was originally retained to
defend Weisz, was by then no longer on the case). They each declined to have
the charges read to them.

"How do you plead?" Magistrate Judge Alicia G. Rosenberg asked.

One by one, Weisz, Zigelman, Naiman, Zievald, Friedman, Lazar and Roth each
said: "Not guilty."

By 11 a.m., they filed out of the courtroom.

By Shabbat, Jan. 4, the Grand Spinka Rebbe was back in Boro Park to lead his
congregation. He's free on $2 million bail, allowed to travel for work in
New York and New Jersey, and of course, to California, where he and
Zigelman, among others, await trial.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinka_financial_controversy

This is similar to the TAX FRAUD involving Ken McVay & B'nai Brith!!




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Subject: ZYD/Jew money laundering ring busted, 
stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to Israel 
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:58:29 -0500

U.S. Attorney General's Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District
Court for the Central District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva and
four other Spinka organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion
dollar tax fraud and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to
Los Angeles to Israel and elsewhere.

http://www.jewishjournal.com/home/preview.php?id=18767

2008-01-11

The Spinka money trail -- and the informant who brought them down

By Amy Klein, Religion Editor

Spinka defendants and supporters as they cross the street to the federal
courthouse in downtown Los Angeles on Dec. 31, 2007. Courthouse photos by
Dan Kacvinski

The first snow flutters hesitantly in Brooklyn. Men wearing fur streimel
hats and women wearing sheitls walk briskly past the corner of 15th Avenue
and 58th Street in Boro Park as if nothing extraordinary has happened here.

And why not? The kosher shops of this self-contained ultra-Orthodox
neighborhood -- practically a city onto itself -- are still a few blocks
down, and here on this bleak corner, there are only three orange school
buses parked in front of a four-story, dark-red brick building, which sits
on a residential street, where tall, narrow houses nearly overlap. The
structure (photo below) is rather nondescript and unimposing -- garbage bags
are piled haphazardly by a front gate, bars protect the windows, young boys
can be heard chanting from behind the locked door and a white sign with sky
blue Hebrew lettering reads: "Yeshiva Imrei Yosef Spinka."


A buzzer sounds. The door opens. No one asks who rang the bell. Up the four
steps, a reception window sits empty. Hazy yellow fluorescent lights
illuminate the narrow hallways adorned with graying yellow paint and frayed
industrial carpeting. If there are millions -- or even thousands -- of
dollars going to the Spinka yeshiva, it certainly doesn't seem like it's
coming here.

This despite the fact that on Dec. 19, 2007, the U.S. Attorney General's
Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District Court for the Central
District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva and four other Spinka
organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion dollar tax fraud
and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to
Israel and elsewhere.

Two of those indicted are Rabbi Naftali Tzi Weisz, 59, the Grand Rabbi of
Spinka, a Brooklyn-based Chasidic sect, whose yeshiva is in this
undistinguished building, and his gabbai (assistant), Moshe Zigelman, 60.

Weisz is just one of a number of Grand Rebbes of Spinka, a Chasidic sect
that originated in Romania in the 19th century. He is the
great-great-grandson of the founding rabbi, and one of about a dozen Grand
Spinka Rebbes who live in Boro Park or Williamsburg, in Brooklyn, or Bnei
Brak and Jerusalem in Israel.

Four Los Angeles men were among those charged with taking part in the
scheme: Yaacov (Yankel) Zeivald, 43, a self-described scribe (sofer) from
Valley Village (photo, right); Yosef Nachum Naiman, 55, the owner of Shatz
Et Naiman, d.b.a. Jerusalem Tours; Alan Jay Friedman, 43, a businessman from
Pico-Robertson who sits on the board of the Orthodox Union; and Moshe Lazar,
60, owner of Lazar Diamonds, a Los Angeles jewelry company.

Although many of the details of the case have not yet been revealed -- a
trial date is set for Feb. 12, but the defendants' lawyers say it will be
postponed at least a year -- what is emerging from the indictment, the
search warrant and other documents of public record is a complex
money-laundering scheme. According to the documents, people donated money to
the Spinka institutions but then received 80 percent to 95 percent of their
donations back, yet wrote off the full amount on their taxes.

These charges are just the beginning of a much larger case, Daniel J.
O'Brien, an assistant U.S. attorney in the major frauds section, based in
Los Angeles, said in an interview with The Journal.

"There were many other people that contributed in this fashion that would be
the subject of government investigations," O'Brien said.

While O'Brien said he has documentation that the Spinka institutions took in
about $750,000 through the scheme -- then writing receipts for $8.7
million -- in 2007 alone, the assistant U.S. attorney believes the fraud has
been going on for decades: "I believe this goes on beyond living memory,"
possibly for generations.

This is certainly not the first time an ultra-Orthodox sect has been accused
of attempting to break the laws of the secular government -- aramos, or
schemes, were perpetrated over the centuries in the shtetls of Europe. In
the last decade, arrests have occurred in religious communities in Brooklyn,
Lakewood, N.J., and upstate New York.

However, this particular case has shocked Los Angeles' ultra-Orthodox
community, not only because Los Angeles had largely been exempt from such
cases in the past, but also because some of the city's prominent members
have been charged as being at the center of the scheme.

As a result, the case has sparked a fierce debate about the type of behavior
that is acceptable for observant people and what type of religious community
Los Angeles would like to be. But there's also debate about the laws of a
moser, an informant, because one person who was not charged was the primary
source of information for the federal case -- though he allegedly started
out as one of the perpetrators.



THE BEGINNING

On June 29, 2004, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission filed civil
fraud charges against Robert A. Kasirer and four executives of Heritage
Healthcare of America, which sold $131 million in bonds to 1,800 investors
in 36 states from 1996-1999, claiming that the money would be used to fund
10 health care facilities. In October of that year, Kasirer approached the
federal government and "expressed a desire to plead guilty to criminal
charges arising out of the investigation and agreed to reveal other criminal
conduct he and others had committed, with a view that any sentence he might
receive would be reduced," according to an affidavit for a search warrant
submitted by FBI Special Agent Ryan Heaton on Dec. 18, 2007.

Although the search warrant affidavit identifies Kasirer only as
"confidential witness (CW-1)" and the recent grand jury indictment refers to
a witness named only as RK, the companies in the affidavit attributed to
CW-1 and RK are run by Kasirer, and several members of the Los Angeles
community, who asked for confidentiality, have confirmed his involvement.

In 2004, under federal surveillance, the informant identified in the
transcript as CW-1 resumed activities he admitted to having conducted with
the Spinka since 1990, in which "he caused several million dollars in
contributions to be mailed to the tax-exempt organizations operating within
the umbrella of Spinka," he is quoted in federal documents as having told
the FBI.

As part of the scam, Weisz and Zigelman allegedly would return 80 to 95
percent of Kasirer's contributions.

On Oct. 31, 2007, the SEC issued a final judgment against Kasirer, ordering
him to pay $4,991,434.

"Kasirer consented to the entry of the final judgment without admitting or
denying the allegations contained in the commission's case," according to
the SEC enforcement proceedings.

In the interim, according to the transcripts, Kasirer began to wear a device
to record his interactions for the government. On Dec. 20, 2004, he told
Zigelman, the Spinka rebbe's gabbai, that he never intended to pay the SEC.

According to the wiretapped transcripts, Kasirer told Zigelman: "The SEC
investigation is done. But they want me to pay them a lot of money."

"How much?" Zigelman asked.

"Possibly one, one and a half," Kasirer said.

"Million?" Zigelman asked.

Kasirer confirmed the amount and said he had told the SEC he didn't have the
money. In the transcript, Kasirer then went on to say that he'd lied to the
SEC, and that, in fact he had the money but wanted to hide that fact.

"What is SEC?" Zigelman asked.

Kasirer explained, and Zigelman replied, "Yes, yes, but you don't have to
give it to them."

For the next three years, Kasirer recorded conversations with targets of the
government investigation, and, using government funds, conducted a dozen
monetary transactions with Zigelman, according to transcripts of
conversations conducted in English, Hebrew, Yiddish and Hungarian. The
government also tapped the phones of Zigelman and Weisz.



CASH OR CHARGE?

For Kasirer, there were two ways the operation worked: At first he
reportedly received his "donations" back in cash, and when he became
uncomfortable with the large cash amounts floating around, he set up an
Israeli account.

According to the transcripts, Kasirer's money was allegedly refunded to him
by various men, all now defendants in the case: Naiman, Zeivald, Friedman
and Lazar, all of whom have pleaded not guilty to the charges against them.

Among the transactions in the transcripts, for example, was one on Feb. 8,
2007. Kasirer FedEx-ed a check for $20,000 made out to Yeshiva Imrei Yosef
to Zigelman. On Feb. 15, 2007, Lazar delivered $18,600 to Kasirer's house.
On Feb. 22, 2007, Kasirer got a letter in the mail on a Yeshiva Imrei Yosef
Spinka letterhead thanking Kasirer for his $20,000 donation to a tax-exempt
organization, saying the "donation" was entirely tax deductible and Kasirer
had received no "goods" or "services" in exchange for the contribution.

The Spinka Yeshiva charged Kasirer up to 7.5 percent for laundering the
money, which was a cause for some dispute, according to the wiretaps.

On Dec. 16, 2005, Kasirer told Joseph Roth, an assistant manager at Bank
Mizrahi -- which is based in Israel but has a branch in Los Angeles -- to
set up a new account so he could move money internationally.

On Jan. 12, 2006, Tel Aviv lawyer Jacob Kantor -- the only one of those
named in the indictment who is still at large -- is reported in the
transcripts offering to Kasirer to create documents to incorporate a company
called Bedford Holdings & Investments, which would be "held in confidence by
the bank and can only be disclosed after a complicated procedure by the Bank
of Israel, if there is evidence that the monies resulted from criminal
activities, such as drugs -- tax matters are not an issue." Much like
Switzerland, Israel has laws that protect investors, and the country does
not investigate monetary origins, even on suspicion of tax fraud.

"So, we wanted to basically set everything up the same way as it was
before," Kasirer told Roth in the affidavit transcripts. Later in the
document, he tells Zigelman that Kantor set up a trust in Israel so that
nothing would be left in Kasirer's name in order to hide his money from the
SEC. Then he'd take a loan from the Los Angeles branch of an unnamed Israeli
bank, "so I can use the money here." Later, he says in the affidavit, he
would take the money back from Israel and repay the loan here.

Mizrahi Bank, which is never named in the affidavit, is under investigation
by the federal government, according to Assistant U.S. Attorney O'Brien.

"We believe the bank offers this thing as a product to clients in the
U.S. -- the bank pitches this as a money-laundering product. I believe there
are multiple agents involved," O'Brien said, including Kantor.

The government also believes that there are many people like Kasirer, "who
occupy the same role as he did in this conspiracy," O'Brien said.

But Kasirer was not the creator of this conspiracy, according to the
government. His father -- the recently deceased Jacob (Yankel) Kasirer who
founded the Bais Yaakov School for Girls on Beverly Boulevard in Los Angeles
and is known as a "stalwart" of the Jewish community -- was involved with
the scheme. According to the transcripts, when Kasirer was discussing his
distress over his earlier money-laundering penalty with Lazar, the diamond
dealer said, "It's not something you started."

Kasirer replied, "I was really not aware of what he did with my father."

In addition, in a taped conversation, the Spinka Rebbe told Kasirer he
wanted to meet with his father.

"RK's father was engaged in this prior to RK being involved in it," O'Brien
said in an interview. "We believe that this has origins much earlier than
that -- beyond living memory."




CRIME IS NOT SO BAD

"There are a million ways that religious institutions defraud the
government," said one Brooklyn accountant who asked that his name be
withheld. However, it's not just the Jews, he claimed, "churches do the same
thing." Churches and synagogues are exempt from filing tax returns -- 
although many do -- and the government usually does not audit unless it has
probable cause. As a result, this can make fraud easier.

In the last decade or so, a number of Chasidic institutions on the East
Coast have been charged with such crimes, including the 1997 case against
the Skverer Hasidim in Rockland County, N.Y., where four men were found
guilty of defrauding the government of millions of dollars in federal Pell
Grants. But in the Orthodox community, many defended them, despite the
crime, because the money was used to support needy yeshiva students.

"Nobody here owns a yacht," a resident reportedly said, and the feeling
then -- as with many such institutional fraud cases -- that if the money is
used to help the community and not line someone's pockets, it's not so bad.

That, in fact, is a pervasive attitude these days in Brooklyn, where the
Spinka case raised fewer eyebrows than in Los Angeles, because the attitude
is everyone does something. This kind of discussion has been a hot topic on
many Internet blogs that discuss the ultra-Orthodox community.

"The government are thieves, what gives them the right to take 40 percent to
50 percent of someone's income? Anyone who can save yiddishe gelt from going
down that toilet is doing a mitzvah," one contributor wrote on the
Vosizneias (Yiddish for "What Is News?") blog.

The blog comments, though, seem to be about evenly divided between two
camps: On one hand are those castigating the government or the bloggers
posting the news for spreading gossip; on the other are those demanding that
the community finally put a stop to criminal behavior.

One particularly poignant plea came from New York white-collar defense
attorney Joel Cohen, in an essay published in 2006 titled, "Jewish Felons:
The Problem of Criminality in Observant Communities." Cohen described
witnessing a disturbing rise in crime among Orthodox and Chasidic Jews.

"The problem in the observant community, however, is not merely occasional,
nor does it often make headlines. Daily, in metropolises around the country,
yarmulka-wearing criminal defendants appear before the bar of justice," he
wrote.

Some prisons -- especially in New York, Los Angeles and Miami -- have daily
minyans, visiting rabbis, kosher food, classes and Shabbat meals, Cohen
wrote. "The most common charge is fraud: against businessmen and
run-of-the-mill citizens alike, most frequently involving victims outside of
the Jewish community, against the government, against insurance carriers,
against banking institutions, health care fraud, money-laundering and
stock-swindling."

Cohen pleads with his fellow Orthodox Jews to denounce the criminal
activity:

"Only with the open denouncement of wrongdoing from within the particular
observant community can the community hope to demonstrate and protect the
Torah's commitment to honesty in one's interpersonal dealings as being at
least equal to, if not greater than, its commitment to technical observance
of mitzvoth," he wrote



DON'T BLAME THE MESSENGER

But the most talked-about aspect of the case -- both among bloggers and at
Shabbat tables on both coasts -- has been the involvement of Kasirer. From
the start, most here guessed accurately who he was -- an informant who
turned state's evidence to save his own skin -- but what they wanted to know
was what was he? Was he a moser -- an informer, who, according to
traditional Jewish law, must be killed for turning against a Jew and is
denied access to "the world to come."

The Talmud forbids a Jew to inform on another Jew to a secular government,
even if that Jew violated both secular and Jewish law.

Today, among poskim -- Orthodox rabbinic deciders -- there is a debate over
whether a Jew may turn in another Jew in a democratic state. Some rabbis say
that laws of moser do not hold in the United States because they were
established to protect Jews from corrupt and anti-Semitic governments that
would likely torture and give Jews worse treatment than other prisoners than
merited by Jewish law.

This is not the case today in a democracy, they say. "These rules apply only
to one who informs on another to bandits and so endangers that person's
money and life, as these bandits chase after a person's body and money, and
thus one may use deadly force to save oneself," it is written in the Aruch
Hashulchan, ("Laying the Table," a book about Jewish law written in the late
19th century).

But many insist that the laws of moser do apply today, and that it is
forbidden by Jewish law for one Jew to inform on another to any secular
government.

Rabbi Ezra Batzri in "Dinnai Mamonut" ("Laws of Money") says informing is
prohibited. "All rules of informing are applicable even currently .... Even
if they bring all matter to court, it is clear that, through interrogation
and the police, government can destroy people, and in many places they do,
in fact, destroy people."

Some rabbis say you cannot be a moser, even in America, except when the
person doing the questionable act may be a danger to others -- a child
molester, a rapist, a murderer. In those cases, it would be "permitted" to
inform the authorities, writes Rabbi Hershel Schacther, a top posek. Which
means that in the case of financial wrongdoings, a Jew is not allowed to
inform on another Jew.

When the Spinka case broke, the Rabbinical Council of California (RCC)
discussed the informant issue, RCC President Rabbi Meyer May said. But the
council decided to let other halachic authorities deal with the question.

"There is no way to explain how perfidious what RK did is. He violated the
spirit of Jewish law," May said. "Having said that, it doesn't justify what
was done on the other side [by the defendants]."

Although many were focusing on the moser and other justifications like
"everybody does it" and "we pay more taxes than everyone else," that is
beside the point, May said. The point, he continued, is to own up to any
wrongdoings. "Our business is the integrity [of the individual]," he said.
"Something which is wrong is wrong."

Still, others, like lawyer and blog commentator Cohen, argue that it is
precisely such concern about laws like that of moser -- which forbid a Jew
to turn in another Jew to authorities, and chilul Hashem, desecrating God's
name in public, which has created an atmosphere were people are more
concerned with protecting their own than following the laws of the U.S.
government.

"To ignore crime within our ranks does us a great disservice, both because
it weakens us as a community and because tolerating it suggests to the
outside world that Judaism does not promote a righteous moral compass,"
Cohen wrote.



BUSINESS AS USUAL

On Monday morning, Dec. 31, the streets of downtown Los Angeles were eerily
empty; nearly everyone had left town. But the Roybal Federal Courthouse was
open, and by 8:30 a.m. there were enough Chasidic men in the third-floor
corridor for a minyan: 11 -- not to mention a few clean-shaven men wearing
black yarmulkes -- all waiting for the morning's arraignment hearings to
begin.

Grand Spinka Rebbe Weisz didn't converse much with his gabbai Zigelman. The
men pored over Hebrew books -- either studying holy texts or reciting
psalms -- and intermittently conversed with the lawyers. It would be an hour
until the court would open and another until their own hearing would begin.

Everyone was anxious for the hearing to start -- not because of the upcoming
secular New Year, which the ultra-Orthodox do not celebrate -- but so that
they could return to their homes and to their lives in Brooklyn.

The seven men had been arrested and jailed on Dec. 19, a Wednesday, and most
were released before Shabbat.

Weisz and Zeligman had spent another Shabbat in Los Angeles, detained until
the arraignment. The Spinka Rebbe attended Rabbi Chaim Boruch Rubin's
synagogue in Hancock Park -- which itself is entangled in a legal battle
over land use -- and was given the honor of leading services. At this, a few
men walked out in protest.

"As a parent in the community and as a rabbi in the community, since there
were children in the room and since we have an obligation to teach our
children right and wrong," one person who left quietly said later. "I have
no problem [with the Spinka Rebbe] sitting in the front in his normal
[honored] seat," but the man who walked out said he would have preferred
"one stage less than normal" to show children "that it's not business as
usual."

When the court opened for the hearing, most of the defendants and their
supporters filed into the first row of the courtroom, except for the
clean-shaven Friedman, who sat in the back, a few seats away from Zeivald,
who was accompanied by an Israeli translator.

A Yiddish translator sat next to the Spinka Rebbe, and only Roth, the
Israeli banker, came from the entrance behind a glass partition, clad in
green prison outfit. He was the only one not yet released on bail, at the
time, because the government said he was believed to pose a flight risk.
Roth remains in custody.

Finally, their turn arrived. The seven filed up front, each with his
separate lawyers. (Famed lawyer Donald Etra, who was originally retained to
defend Weisz, was by then no longer on the case). They each declined to have
the charges read to them.

"How do you plead?" Magistrate Judge Alicia G. Rosenberg asked.

One by one, Weisz, Zigelman, Naiman, Zievald, Friedman, Lazar and Roth each
said: "Not guilty."

By 11 a.m., they filed out of the courtroom.

By Shabbat, Jan. 4, the Grand Spinka Rebbe was back in Boro Park to lead his
congregation. He's free on $2 million bail, allowed to travel for work in
New York and New Jersey, and of course, to California, where he and
Zigelman, among others, await trial.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinka_financial_controversy

This is similar to the TAX FRAUD involving Ken McVay & B'nai Brith!!


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From: Anarchore 
Subject: Ban Jew Child Molestation
Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 09:22:54 -0600

The Jews have elevated Political Correctness to a religion, so that
child genital mutilating and nation destroying cults like themselves
are allowed to practice their sick and atavistic rituals.

Canada is siick in the head when we can't show these alien freaks the
door.  Fuuuuck the Africans, Muslim and Jews, we don't need the
influence of their inferior barbaric cultures.

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=a0f1c0cf-2452-42eb-
bf75-b56f354f9dce&k=84150

Cautious criticism
A Growing Number Of Activists Are Hesitant To Decry Female Genital
Mutilation
Zosia Bielski, National Post
Published: Saturday, August 25, 2007

Academia's fixation on cultural sensitivity is changing the debate
around female genital mutilation, with a growing number of professors
and women's rights activists becoming hesitant to condemn the practice.

Where feminists rallied against the operation from the pages of Ms.
magazine in the 1970s, today's critics are infinitely more cautious,
with most suggesting that the Western world butt out until Muslim
African communities are ready to reconsider what they are doing to
their daughters.

The shift in attitudes about the practice-- which in the worst of cases
involves the carving out of a woman's clitoris and inner labia and can
cause lifelong urinary tract infections, sterility and even death --
comes at a time when high-profile victims of the operation such as
writer Ayaan Hirsi Ali and model Waris Dirie, both Somalis, have
launched very public campaigns against the practice.
Two Kenyan girls sit near a knife used for female genital mutilation in
Nyamira, west of Nairobi. "There are good reasons within the society
for the operation to continue, but these are cultural reasons. They are
not scientific ones," says Janice Boddy, a University of Toronto
professor.View Larger Image View Larger Image
Two Kenyan girls sit near a knife used for female genital mutilation in
Nyamira, west of Nairobi. "There are good reasons within the society
for the operation to continue, but these are cultural reasons. They are
not scientific ones," says Janice Boddy, a University of Toronto
professor.
Simon Maina, Agence France-Presse

The issue is so explosive, it has two names -- female genital
mutilation, or FGM, to those most vociferously opposed to the practice;
and female genital cutting, or FGC, to those in the less-condemning
camp.

The latter includes the chair of anthropology at the University of
Toronto, who has written a new book on the subject. Although not
prepared to defend what she calls FGC, Janice Boddy defends women who
undergo the operation and want the practice to continue in future
generations.

"There are good reasons within the society for the operation to
continue, but these are cultural reasons. They are not scientific
ones," says Prof. Boddy, author of Civilizing Women: British Crusades
in Colonial Sudan.

Working through British and Sudanese archives, she looks at the history
of FGC in that country, particularly European colonial interactions
with the practice, from British nurses attempting to re-educate
Sudanese midwives in the 1920s, to the country's outlawing of the
practice in 1946 amid Western pressure.

"It isn't a happy situation by any means. I wouldn't want it to
continue. But I think that up until this point, the West has not been
particularly helpful in the way that it's gone about trying to assist
in the eradication," Prof. Boddy says.

Prevalent in, though not exclusive to, Muslim societies, particularly
in Sudan, Somalia, northern Kenya and parts of Ethiopia and Indonesia,
female genital mutilation takes on its most severe form in
infibulation, or pharaonic circumcision.

This can involve the removal of both the clitoris and inner labia with
crude instruments such as razors. The entire vagina is then sewn up
with thread, or fastened with thorns.

In this way, a woman's virginity -- considered especially important by
Muslim men--can be proven before her father is paid the bride price.

The Sudanese, Prof. Boddy argues, are a fiercely guarded culture, one
that sees the practice as a defence of their people against intruders,
and, astonishingly, as protection against injury.

"The cultural context in which this practice takes place supports the
idea of enclosing the body against harm," she writes in her book. The
social body is closed against intrusion from the outside by marriages
between relatives. People marry cousins ... The kinship system is quite
closed. That image of the defensive society, the defensive social body,
is carried over into this idea of defending the physical body.


For the real TRUTH about ZYDS, visit the world top-rated website
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZYD COLLABORATION
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case -
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
Christkiller ZYDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
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Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
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Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
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From: Anarchore 
Subject: Ban Jew Child Molestation
Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 09:22:54 -0600

The Jews have elevated Political Correctness to a religion, so that
child genital mutilating and nation destroying cults like themselves
are allowed to practice their sick and atavistic rituals.

Canada is siick in the head when we can't show these alien freaks the
door.  Fuuuuck the Africans, Muslim and Jews, we don't need the
influence of their inferior barbaric cultures.

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=a0f1c0cf-2452-42eb-
bf75-b56f354f9dce&k=84150

Cautious criticism
A Growing Number Of Activists Are Hesitant To Decry Female Genital
Mutilation
Zosia Bielski, National Post
Published: Saturday, August 25, 2007

Academia's fixation on cultural sensitivity is changing the debate
around female genital mutilation, with a growing number of professors
and women's rights activists becoming hesitant to condemn the practice.

Where feminists rallied against the operation from the pages of Ms.
magazine in the 1970s, today's critics are infinitely more cautious,
with most suggesting that the Western world butt out until Muslim
African communities are ready to reconsider what they are doing to
their daughters.

The shift in attitudes about the practice-- which in the worst of cases
involves the carving out of a woman's clitoris and inner labia and can
cause lifelong urinary tract infections, sterility and even death --
comes at a time when high-profile victims of the operation such as
writer Ayaan Hirsi Ali and model Waris Dirie, both Somalis, have
launched very public campaigns against the practice.
Two Kenyan girls sit near a knife used for female genital mutilation in
Nyamira, west of Nairobi. "There are good reasons within the society
for the operation to continue, but these are cultural reasons. They are
not scientific ones," says Janice Boddy, a University of Toronto
professor.View Larger Image View Larger Image
Two Kenyan girls sit near a knife used for female genital mutilation in
Nyamira, west of Nairobi. "There are good reasons within the society
for the operation to continue, but these are cultural reasons. They are
not scientific ones," says Janice Boddy, a University of Toronto
professor.
Simon Maina, Agence France-Presse

The issue is so explosive, it has two names -- female genital
mutilation, or FGM, to those most vociferously opposed to the practice;
and female genital cutting, or FGC, to those in the less-condemning
camp.

The latter includes the chair of anthropology at the University of
Toronto, who has written a new book on the subject. Although not
prepared to defend what she calls FGC, Janice Boddy defends women who
undergo the operation and want the practice to continue in future
generations.

"There are good reasons within the society for the operation to
continue, but these are cultural reasons. They are not scientific
ones," says Prof. Boddy, author of Civilizing Women: British Crusades
in Colonial Sudan.

Working through British and Sudanese archives, she looks at the history
of FGC in that country, particularly European colonial interactions
with the practice, from British nurses attempting to re-educate
Sudanese midwives in the 1920s, to the country's outlawing of the
practice in 1946 amid Western pressure.

"It isn't a happy situation by any means. I wouldn't want it to
continue. But I think that up until this point, the West has not been
particularly helpful in the way that it's gone about trying to assist
in the eradication," Prof. Boddy says.

Prevalent in, though not exclusive to, Muslim societies, particularly
in Sudan, Somalia, northern Kenya and parts of Ethiopia and Indonesia,
female genital mutilation takes on its most severe form in
infibulation, or pharaonic circumcision.

This can involve the removal of both the clitoris and inner labia with
crude instruments such as razors. The entire vagina is then sewn up
with thread, or fastened with thorns.

In this way, a woman's virginity -- considered especially important by
Muslim men--can be proven before her father is paid the bride price.

The Sudanese, Prof. Boddy argues, are a fiercely guarded culture, one
that sees the practice as a defence of their people against intruders,
and, astonishingly, as protection against injury.

"The cultural context in which this practice takes place supports the
idea of enclosing the body against harm," she writes in her book. The
social body is closed against intrusion from the outside by marriages
between relatives. People marry cousins ... The kinship system is quite
closed. That image of the defensive society, the defensive social body,
is carried over into this idea of defending the physical body.


For the real TRUTH about ZYDS, visit the world top-rated website
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZYD COLLABORATION
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case -
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
Christkiller ZYDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
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CRA [the Canadian Tax Dept.equivalent of IRS] convicted yet another Montreal
Synagogue Convicted for massive TAX FRAUD- Will CRA Now Charge & 
Convict McVay & BB For Similar TAX FRAUD?

Canadian Jew News have a banner headline story covering half a page, on page
35 of the issue for April 10 2008.

Canada Revenue Agency [CRA] convicted the Montreal synagogue Congregation
Adath Israel Poale Zedek Anshei Ozeroff, and they were also fined almost HALF
A MILLION DOLLARS FOR TAX FRAUD!!

According to documents made public by CRA, the synagogue had issued fraudulent
charitable donation receipts worth almost $400,000 in the fiscal year ending
in 2005.

In addition to the huge fine, the synagogue has now also lost status as a
registered charity, and can no longer issue charitable donation receipts.

This synagogue had been previously audited in 2002, and had been warned at
that time.
This synagogue had been giving false charitable donation receipts for
fraudulent items such as membership fees, cemetery plots and the services of
the nursery school.

Now that CRA have finally got some balls in prosecuting for TAX FRAUD, it will
be only a matter of days before B'nai Brith will also get convicted, in
connection with their MONEY LAUNDERING FOR KEN MCVAY, 
THEIR ISSUING OF FRAUDULENT CHARITABLE DONATION RECEIPTS 
for payments to Ken McVays BUSINESS!!

Ken McVay and his huge  tax swindle, CRIMINAL MONEY LAUNDERING 
TAX FRAUD  involving the collusion of senior management at B'nai Brith, 
is now being exposed by Canadian Jew News, week after week, and is 
now a major cause of  B'Nai Brith Canada  Breaking Up!!

No wonder CRA & IRS are also very interested!

McVay can not call all the news stories false, since they are carried 
in the leading jew newspaper in Canada, Canadian Jew News, week 
after week with more and more prominent jews in BB demanding details !

Rumor is that CJN is now investigating further, with CRA, IRS,
BB executives, as well as RCMP and FBI regarding McVay's
CRIMINAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH COLLUSION OF BB 
AND ALSO MAZAL'S SAAF!!

It seems that large group of past presidents, and BB lodge presidents,
are even considering breaking away from the present BB and setting 
up a new jew charity group.

Apparently the present gang running BB have refused to provide 
audited  financial statements before the AGM, as required. Members 
are concerned about  what is happening to all the funds collected.

For example, isn't the money being LAUNDERED for the BUSINESS 
RUN BY Shabbas-Goy Ken McVay ILLEGAL?

Henry Gimpel a former regional BB Chair, said that a core
group of 15-20 former BB executives,are extremely concerned.

Gimpel has stated that"problems really started when we stopped 
getting financial statements in advance of the AGMs"

"Everything was manipulated."

We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith.
How is that money used?
Where does it go?
We don't know."


No wonder Ken McVay does not want this publicised!

Now, in the issue of Canadian Jew News for January 17 2008, 
there is a 2 page banner headline story about the ongoing 
problems at B'nai Brith Canada caused by this scandal.

On pages 6 and 17 of this issue, is a huge article about the existing 
managers of BB wanting to remove as members the dissident past 
presidents and long time members, who have been questioning the 
mismanagement and financial irregularities.

Many of the past executives now want the whole mess to go to Court,
so that the public will get proof of the irregularities, such as 
ILLEGAL CHARITABLE DONATION RECEIPTS FOR PAYMENTS 
TO McVAY'S BUSINESS!!

McVay TAX FRAUD Causing  B'Nai Brith Canada to Break Up!!
Also, it is stimulating Canadian & USA Tax FRAUD Investigations!
Full text of article follows at bottom of comments.
The article is from the JEW newspaper, so it must be true!

On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:15:02 -0800, in can.politics Greg Carr
 wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:35:11 -0700, SteveHorn 
wrote:

Canadian Jew News had  a huge banner headline story, over 2 pages,
[pages 12 & 28] in the issue of December 6 2007 regarding a major 
scandal involving the current BB Canada  managers.

Since this is a ZYD newspaper, it can not be called anti-semitic.
Published for jews, it MUST be TRUE,even if it does expose crooks!!


Since Ken McVay has been outed as being involved in
ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for
fraudulent tax charity receipts from Bb, no wonder
executives of BB are very concerned.

JEWS ONCE AGAIN ABUSING THEIR TAX EXEMPT STATUS TO FUND 
A NON-EXEMPT NIZKOR.ORG IN ELABORATE MONEY LAUNDERING 
AND KICKBACK SCAM? IRS & CRA WHERE ARE YOU?


JEWS ARE INDICTED FOR TAX FRAUD IN AMERICA:
http://www.pgdc.com/usa/item/?itemID=932870
  Thursday, January 10, 2008 Posted: 1:42 AM EST
Religious Leader and Others Indicted on Charitable Contribution Scheme; Other
Tax Fraud

A federal grand jury has handed down a 37-count indictment against the head of
a religious organization and related parties for conspiracy to defraud the
United States and agencies thereof. The numerous allegations include a
fraudulent charitable contribution and kickback scheme that resulted in
claimed deductions of up to 20 times the amount actually contributed,
international money laundering, mail and wire fraud, and filing false income
tax returns.


BROOKLYN RABBI AND SEVERAL ASSOCIATES CHARGED IN 
SOPHISTICATED  TAX FRAUD AND MONEY LAUNDERING SCHEME
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
THE ABOVE CON-GAME MIRRORS WHAT B'NAI BRITH DOES WITH 
NIZKOR.ORG RUN BY CONFIDENCE MAN KENNETH NEAL MCVAY.

Canadian Jewish News
Battle brewing at B'nai Brith Canada
By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter
Thursday, 06 December 2007

TORONTO - A nasty battle is brewing at B'nai Brith Canada (BBC) over
allegations the organization's head office has centralized too much
power and is unaccountable to members - despite a decision of B'nai
Brith International's (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have
addressed the issue.

At least three former senior officials of B'nai Brith Canada are
raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at
BBC's head office in Toronto. ...

Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to
20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge
presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has
been taking.

A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel
said that "problems really started when we stopped getting financial
statements" in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when
slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation.
"Everything was manipulated," he said.

"We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith. How is
that money used? Where does it go? We don't know."


[Since Ken McVay [The Nizkor Project] has been outed as being involved
in ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for fraudulent tax
charity receipts from BB, no wonder executives of BB are very concerned.
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
"NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam"
Message-ID: 
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
"Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?"
Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com> ]

http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86

http://tinyurl.com/3ceybq

http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:XWq_EgV_AFYJ:www.cjnews.com/
index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D13693%26
Itemid%3D86+%22Battle+brewing+at+B%27nai+Brith+Canada%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl
=us&lr=lang_en


Kenneth McVay's American money laundering operation exposed;
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/7e8cbfce5f14ee8c?fwc=1
"The reason Canadian Kenneth McVay is distancing himself from the San Antonio
Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund? (It's illegal for one thing!)"
Message-ID: <1o9ch2pv1bc148161ihkt26ngjteacj4p8@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e0028c076ac46510?fwc=1
"Kenneth N McVay is a Goy Mamzer Totally Owned by Jewry"
Message-ID: 97ba28fa14b592c4ca0079950858babe@remailer.metacolo.com


B'NAI BRITH, SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION AND NIZKOR.ORG SHOULD ALL 
BE SHUT DOWN AND THE PERPETRATORS IN EACH INSTITUTION MUST BE 
PROSECUTED TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW. THEIR TAX EVASIONS SCHEMES
ARE CRIMES AGAINST THE WORKING PEOPLE; CRIMES WHICH SHOULD NOT 
GO UNPUNISHED.


JEWS ONCE AGAIN ABUSING THEIR TAX EXEMPT STATUS TO FUND A NON-EXEMPT
NIZKOR.ORG IN ELABORATE MONEY LAUNDERING AND KICKBACK SCAM? 
IRS & CRA WHERE ARE YOU?



For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case -
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


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or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com,
or KenMcVay@vex.net
Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex,
homosexuals and the like.

>Canadian Jew News had  a huge banner headline story, over 2 pages,
>[pages 12 & 28] in the issue of December 6 2007 regarding a major 
>scandal involving the current BB Canada  managers.

>Since this is a ZYD newspaper, it can not be called anti-semitic.
>Published for jews, it MUST be TRUE!!

So stupid why didn't you show the url?
The entire original article is below, cretin.

>No wonder honest jews are incenced!

>It seems that large group of past presidents, and BB lodge presidents,
>are even considering breaking away from the present BB and setting 
>up a new jew charity group.

>Apparently the present gang running BB have refused to provide 
>audited  financial statements before the AGM, as required. members 
>are concerned about  what is happening to all the funds collected.

>For example, is the money being LAUNDERED for the BUSINESS 
>RUN BY Shabbas-Goy Ken McVay LEGAL?

Ken McVay uber alles.

>Henry Gimpel a former regional BB Chair, said that a core
>group of 15-20 former BB executives,are extremely concerned.

Battle brewing at B’nai Brith Canada  
By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter     
Thursday, 06 December 2007  
TORONTO — A nasty battle is brewing at B’nai Brith Canada (BBC) over
allegations the organization’s head office has centralized too much
power and is unaccountable to members – despite a decision of B’nai
Brith International’s (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have
addressed the issue.

At least three former senior officials of B’nai Brith Canada are
raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at
BBC’s head office in Toronto. Dissatisfaction is so great there has
been talk of breaking away to form a new service organization, one of
the ex-officials said.

At the same time, a group calling themselves “concerned members of
B’nai Brith Canada” have launched a newsletter purporting to offer
“BBC news without the spin.” Its May 10, 2007, inaugural issue states
the group’s goal is to “end the current dysfunctional corporate
governance at BBC and restore it to its once prominent position as a
respected and admired organization both inside and outside the Jewish
community.” The group claims to represent lodge past presidents, BBC
past presidents, members of BBC’s board of governors and national
administrative board.

The group’s concerns were first reported in the New York-based paper
the Forward.

BBC’s head office, meanwhile, rejects outright any suggestion there is
anything amiss in the organization’s corporate governance. Frank
Dimant, BBC’s executive vice-president, said all institutional changes
have been passed lawfully and complaints regarding the organization’s
corporate structure have been definitively rejected by B’nai Brith
International’s (BBI) highest appeal court. BBI is BBC’s parent
organization.

In interviews with The CJN, two former national presidents and a past
chair of the Toronto regional co-ordinating committee said too much
power is concentrated at the organization’s head office in Toronto and
the service group’s 4,000 members are being shut out of
decision-making. They called for greater corporate accountability and
transparency, particularly strict adherence to the organization’s
constitution, which requires the presentation of audited financial
statements prior to the annual general meeting  (AGM).

Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to
20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge
presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has
been taking.

A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel
said that “problems really started when we stopped getting financial
statements” in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when
slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation.

“Everything was manipulated,” he said.

“We want accountability. We are raising funds for B’nai Brith. How is
that money used? Where does it go? We don’t know.”

Gimpel suggested B’nai Brith might face a serious revolt of the lodges
if the organization is not more responsive – perhaps even a
“breakaway” by some. “They’re getting more and more fed up. There’s
been talk about it,” he said.

Morley Wolfe and Harvey Crestohl – both BBC past presidents – said
they want to see B’nai Brith revert to a more democratic,
representative and transparent organization.

Most BBC members don’t know or don’t care about the goings-on at
headquarters, Wolfe said. They are content to participate in lodge
activities and don’t realize the organization has changed, he added.

He discounted suggestions that lodges might break away. BBC “still
does good work,” he said.

What he is after is reform.

“I’m not trying to destroy the organization,” he said. “I’m trying to
get some accountability and transparency.”

Crestohl, who served as BBC president in the late 1970s and who has
been a lodge member for 51 years, said he and the other past
presidents would like to see more BBC members get involved in
organizational governance.

“We need a grassroots movement. We also need some leaders in the
community who give support to B’nai Brith to realize what’s going on
and exert their influence on those running things to revert to being a
democratically run organization,” he said.

Dimant stated that BBI’s appeals court considered all the criticisms
and on July 20, 2007, ruled that “all the accusations have been
debunked.”

“This kind of guerrilla war is baseless and has been judged to be
without merit, without basis and can only be harmful to the total
Jewish community,” he said.

Dimant said B’nai Brith Canada has adopted a new constitution and
rules of governance similar to those employed by many other Jewish
organizations.

In particular, its constitution mirrors that of BBI. The change was
designed to strengthen its governance practices, stated BBC national
president Gerry Weinstein.

BBC provided The CJN with a one-paragraph statement quoting the BBI
appeals court judgment, but it did not provide any supporting
documentation.

The court ruled: “Having carefully reviewed all the pleadings,
arguments and documentation put forward by the parties, the justices
of this honourable court do unanimously find that there is no basis to
the complaints on which the appellants rely. The amended constitution
of B’nai Brith Canada was duly passed at a legally constituted meeting
of the organization within its governing body’s full jurisdiction. No
irregularity in the procedures followed by B’nai Brith Canada has been
made out that would invoke the jurisdiction of this court.
Accordingly, the appeal is hereby dismissed.”

Dimant said despite the court’s finding, “you have some disgruntled
members, a handful, very small.”

He said some have ties to The CJN and can be said to have a personal
conflict of interest in seeking to undermine BBC’s Jewish Tribune
newspaper.

As for the others, “we are talking about some individuals who like to
think history was different at one point. I think lots of people want
to recapture youth and reflect on things that didn’t happen the way
they remembered.

“My concern is that BBC is a leading Jewish organization, high
profile, which has great government relations. Our League [for Human
Rights] is doing a superb job to battle anti-Semitism. It would seem
to me the energies of these people should be directed forward to help
the Jewish community,” he said.

For his part, Gimpel rejects the BBI court decision, calling it “a
travesty of justice.”

He speculated that three, perhaps four lodges accounting for 25 per
cent of BBC’s membership might eventually leave the organization.

“I give B’nai Brith two years if this carries on. Members are getting
fed up… The lodges will be gone.”

http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86


In other words at worst only 20% will leave. Jews argue it is well
documented in the Bible. One person has a complaint and no one else of
the Jewish faith is backing him.
 
  
>Gimpel has stated that"problems really started when we stopped 
>getting financial statements in advance of the AGMs"

>"Everything was manipulated."

>We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith.
>How is that money used?
>Where does it go?
>We don't know."

>Since Ken McVay has been outed as being involved in
>ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for
>fraudulent tax charity receipts from Bb, no wonder
>executives of BB are very concerned.

>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
>for JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com

>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
>WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case -
>no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
>Christkiller ZHIDS!!

The Romans killed the LORD not Jews. You Nazis don't even tithe.
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org

Does he still clean the toilets of Turks?
>IHR - www.ihr.org

>Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org

Under constant FBI surveillance and the SCPL as well.
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage

>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
>Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
>American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
>Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com,
or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com,
or KenMcVay@vex.net
Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex,
homosexuals and the like.


From: Caduceus@eris.io.com
Date: Sat,  5 Jan 2008 21:10:15 +0000 (UTC)

Canadian Jewish News
Battle Brewing at B'nai Brith Canada
By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter
Thursday, 06 December 2007

TORONTO - A nasty battle is brewing at B'nai Brith Canada (BBC) over
allegations the organization's head office has centralized too much
power and is unaccountable to members - despite a decision of B'nai
Brith International's (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have
addressed the issue.

At least three former senior officials of B'nai Brith Canada are
raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at
BBC's head office in Toronto. Dissatisfaction is so great there has
been talk of breaking away to form a new service organization, one of
the ex-officials said.

At the same time, a group calling themselves "concerned members of
B'nai Brith Canada" have launched a newsletter purporting to offer
"BBC news without the spin." Its May 10, 2007, inaugural issue states
the group's goal is to "end the current dysfunctional corporate
governance at BBC and restore it to its once prominent position as a
respected and admired organization both inside and outside the Jewish
community." The group claims to represent lodge past presidents, BBC
past presidents, members of BBC's board of governors and national
administrative board.

The group's concerns were first reported in the New York-based paper
the Forward.

BBC's head office, meanwhile, rejects outright any suggestion there is
anything amiss in the organization's corporate governance. Frank
Dimant, BBC's executive vice-president, said all institutional changes
have been passed lawfully and complaints regarding the organization's
corporate structure have been definitively rejected by B'nai Brith
International's (BBI) highest appeal court. BBI is BBC's parent
organization.

In interviews with The CJN, two former national presidents and a past
chair of the Toronto regional co-ordinating committee said too much
power is concentrated at the organization's head office in Toronto and
the service group's 4,000 members are being shut out of
decision-making. They called for greater corporate accountability and
transparency, particularly strict adherence to the organization's
constitution, which requires the presentation of audited financial
statements prior to the annual general meeting  (AGM).

Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to
20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge
presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has
been taking.

A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel
said that "problems really started when we stopped getting financial
statements" in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when
slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation.

"Everything was manipulated," he said.

"We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith. How is
that money used? Where does it go? We don't know."

[Since Ken McVay [The Nizkor Project] has been outed as being involved
in ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for fraudulent tax
charity receipts from BB, no wonder executives of BB are very concerned.
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
 "NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam"
 Message-ID: 
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
 "Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?"
 Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com> ]

Gimpel suggested B'nai Brith might face a serious revolt of the lodges
if the organization is not more responsive - perhaps even a
"breakaway" by some. "They're getting more and more fed up. There's
been talk about it," he said.

Morley Wolfe and Harvey Crestohl - both BBC past presidents - said
they want to see B'nai Brith revert to a more democratic,
representative and transparent organization.

Most BBC members don't know or don't care about the goings-on at
headquarters, Wolfe said. They are content to participate in lodge
activities and don't realize the organization has changed, he added.

He discounted suggestions that lodges might break away. BBC "still
does good work," he said.

What he is after is reform.

"I'm not trying to destroy the organization," he said. "I'm trying to
get some accountability and transparency."

Crestohl, who served as BBC president in the late 1970s and who has
been a lodge member for 51 years, said he and the other past
presidents would like to see more BBC members get involved in
organizational governance.

"We need a grassroots movement. We also need some leaders in the
community who give support to B'nai Brith to realize what's going on
and exert their influence on those running things to revert to being a
democratically run organization," he said.

Dimant stated that BBI's appeals court considered all the criticisms
and on July 20, 2007, ruled that "all the accusations have been
debunked."

"This kind of guerrilla war is baseless and has been judged to be
without merit, without basis and can only be harmful to the total
Jewish community," he said.

Dimant said B'nai Brith Canada has adopted a new constitution and
rules of governance similar to those employed by many other Jewish
organizations.

In particular, its constitution mirrors that of BBI. The change was
designed to strengthen its governance practices, stated BBC national
president Gerry Weinstein.

BBC provided The CJN with a one-paragraph statement quoting the BBI
appeals court judgment, but it did not provide any supporting
documentation.

The court ruled: "Having carefully reviewed all the pleadings,
arguments and documentation put forward by the parties, the justices
of this honourable court do unanimously find that there is no basis to
the complaints on which the appellants rely. The amended constitution
of B'nai Brith Canada was duly passed at a legally constituted meeting
of the organization within its governing body's full jurisdiction. No
irregularity in the procedures followed by B'nai Brith Canada has been
made out that would invoke the jurisdiction of this court.
Accordingly, the appeal is hereby dismissed."

Dimant said despite the court's finding, "you have some disgruntled
members, a handful, very small."

He said some have ties to The CJN and can be said to have a personal
conflict of interest in seeking to undermine BBC's Jewish Tribune
newspaper.

As for the others, "we are talking about some individuals who like to
think history was different at one point. I think lots of people want
to recapture youth and reflect on things that didn't happen the way
they remembered.

"My concern is that BBC is a leading Jewish organization, high
profile, which has great government relations. Our League [for Human
Rights] is doing a superb job to battle anti-Semitism. It would seem
to me the energies of these people should be directed forward to help
the Jewish community," he said.

For his part, Gimpel rejects the BBI court decision, calling it "a
travesty of justice."

He speculated that three, perhaps four lodges accounting for 25 per
cent of BBC's membership might eventually leave the organization.

"I give B'nai Brith two years if this carries on. Members are getting
fed up. The lodges will be gone."

http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86

http://tinyurl.com/3ceybq

http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:XWq_EgV_AFYJ:www.cjnews.com/
index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D13693%26Itemid%3D86
+%22Battle+brewing+at+B%27nai+Brith+Canada%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&lr=lang_en

     Kenneth McVay's American money laundering operation exposed;

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/7e8cbfce5f14ee8c?fwc=1
"The reason Canadian Kenneth McVay is distancing himself from the San Antonio
Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund? (It's illegal for one thing!)"
 Message-ID: <1o9ch2pv1bc148161ihkt26ngjteacj4p8@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e0028c076ac46510?fwc=1
"Kenneth N McVay is a Goy Mamzer Totally Owned by Jewry"
 Message-ID: <97ba28fa14b592c4ca0079950858babe@remailer.metacolo.com>


Even the past executives of BB did not know about the FRAUD INVOLVING PAYMENTS
TO KEN McVAY, and the issuing of fraudulent charitable donation receipts for 
payments to McVay's one man BUSINESS!!


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website 
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION 
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - 
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the 
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


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or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com,
or KenMcVay@vex.net
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CRA [the Canadian Tax Dept.equivalent of IRS] convicted yet another Montreal
Synagogue Convicted for massive TAX FRAUD- Will CRA Now Charge & 
Convict McVay & BB For Similar TAX FRAUD?

Canadian Jew News have a banner headline story covering half a page, on page
35 of the issue for April 10 2008.

Canada Revenue Agency [CRA] convicted the Montreal synagogue Congregation
Adath Israel Poale Zedek Anshei Ozeroff, and they were also fined almost HALF
A MILLION DOLLARS FOR TAX FRAUD!!

According to documents made public by CRA, the synagogue had issued fraudulent
charitable donation receipts worth almost $400,000 in the fiscal year ending
in 2005.

In addition to the huge fine, the synagogue has now also lost status as a
registered charity, and can no longer issue charitable donation receipts.

This synagogue had been previously audited in 2002, and had been warned at
that time.
This synagogue had been giving false charitable donation receipts for
fraudulent items such as membership fees, cemetery plots and the services of
the nursery school.

Now that CRA have finally got some balls in prosecuting for TAX FRAUD, it will
be only a matter of days before B'nai Brith will also get convicted, in
connection with their MONEY LAUNDERING FOR KEN MCVAY, 
THEIR ISSUING OF FRAUDULENT CHARITABLE DONATION RECEIPTS 
for payments to Ken McVays BUSINESS!!

Ken McVay and his huge  tax swindle, CRIMINAL MONEY LAUNDERING 
TAX FRAUD  involving the collusion of senior management at B'nai Brith, 
is now being exposed by Canadian Jew News, week after week, and is 
now a major cause of  B'Nai Brith Canada  Breaking Up!!

No wonder CRA & IRS are also very interested!

McVay can not call all the news stories false, since they are carried 
in the leading jew newspaper in Canada, Canadian Jew News, week 
after week with more and more prominent jews in BB demanding details !

Rumor is that CJN is now investigating further, with CRA, IRS,
BB executives, as well as RCMP and FBI regarding McVay's
CRIMINAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH COLLUSION OF BB 
AND ALSO MAZAL'S SAAF!!

It seems that large group of past presidents, and BB lodge presidents,
are even considering breaking away from the present BB and setting 
up a new jew charity group.

Apparently the present gang running BB have refused to provide 
audited  financial statements before the AGM, as required. Members 
are concerned about  what is happening to all the funds collected.

For example, isn't the money being LAUNDERED for the BUSINESS 
RUN BY Shabbas-Goy Ken McVay ILLEGAL?

Henry Gimpel a former regional BB Chair, said that a core
group of 15-20 former BB executives,are extremely concerned.

Gimpel has stated that"problems really started when we stopped 
getting financial statements in advance of the AGMs"

"Everything was manipulated."

We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith.
How is that money used?
Where does it go?
We don't know."


No wonder Ken McVay does not want this publicised!

Now, in the issue of Canadian Jew News for January 17 2008, 
there is a 2 page banner headline story about the ongoing 
problems at B'nai Brith Canada caused by this scandal.

On pages 6 and 17 of this issue, is a huge article about the existing 
managers of BB wanting to remove as members the dissident past 
presidents and long time members, who have been questioning the 
mismanagement and financial irregularities.

Many of the past executives now want the whole mess to go to Court,
so that the public will get proof of the irregularities, such as 
ILLEGAL CHARITABLE DONATION RECEIPTS FOR PAYMENTS 
TO McVAY'S BUSINESS!!

McVay TAX FRAUD Causing  B'Nai Brith Canada to Break Up!!
Also, it is stimulating Canadian & USA Tax FRAUD Investigations!
Full text of article follows at bottom of comments.
The article is from the JEW newspaper, so it must be true!

On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:15:02 -0800, in can.politics Greg Carr
 wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:35:11 -0700, SteveHorn 
wrote:

Canadian Jew News had  a huge banner headline story, over 2 pages,
[pages 12 & 28] in the issue of December 6 2007 regarding a major 
scandal involving the current BB Canada  managers.

Since this is a ZYD newspaper, it can not be called anti-semitic.
Published for jews, it MUST be TRUE,even if it does expose crooks!!


Since Ken McVay has been outed as being involved in
ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for
fraudulent tax charity receipts from Bb, no wonder
executives of BB are very concerned.

JEWS ONCE AGAIN ABUSING THEIR TAX EXEMPT STATUS TO FUND 
A NON-EXEMPT NIZKOR.ORG IN ELABORATE MONEY LAUNDERING 
AND KICKBACK SCAM? IRS & CRA WHERE ARE YOU?


JEWS ARE INDICTED FOR TAX FRAUD IN AMERICA:
http://www.pgdc.com/usa/item/?itemID=932870
  Thursday, January 10, 2008 Posted: 1:42 AM EST
Religious Leader and Others Indicted on Charitable Contribution Scheme; Other
Tax Fraud

A federal grand jury has handed down a 37-count indictment against the head of
a religious organization and related parties for conspiracy to defraud the
United States and agencies thereof. The numerous allegations include a
fraudulent charitable contribution and kickback scheme that resulted in
claimed deductions of up to 20 times the amount actually contributed,
international money laundering, mail and wire fraud, and filing false income
tax returns.


BROOKLYN RABBI AND SEVERAL ASSOCIATES CHARGED IN 
SOPHISTICATED  TAX FRAUD AND MONEY LAUNDERING SCHEME
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
THE ABOVE CON-GAME MIRRORS WHAT B'NAI BRITH DOES WITH 
NIZKOR.ORG RUN BY CONFIDENCE MAN KENNETH NEAL MCVAY.

Canadian Jewish News
Battle brewing at B'nai Brith Canada
By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter
Thursday, 06 December 2007

TORONTO - A nasty battle is brewing at B'nai Brith Canada (BBC) over
allegations the organization's head office has centralized too much
power and is unaccountable to members - despite a decision of B'nai
Brith International's (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have
addressed the issue.

At least three former senior officials of B'nai Brith Canada are
raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at
BBC's head office in Toronto. ...

Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to
20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge
presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has
been taking.

A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel
said that "problems really started when we stopped getting financial
statements" in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when
slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation.
"Everything was manipulated," he said.

"We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith. How is
that money used? Where does it go? We don't know."


[Since Ken McVay [The Nizkor Project] has been outed as being involved
in ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for fraudulent tax
charity receipts from BB, no wonder executives of BB are very concerned.
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
"NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam"
Message-ID: 
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
"Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?"
Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com> ]

http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86

http://tinyurl.com/3ceybq

http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:XWq_EgV_AFYJ:www.cjnews.com/
index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D13693%26
Itemid%3D86+%22Battle+brewing+at+B%27nai+Brith+Canada%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl
=us&lr=lang_en


Kenneth McVay's American money laundering operation exposed;
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/7e8cbfce5f14ee8c?fwc=1
"The reason Canadian Kenneth McVay is distancing himself from the San Antonio
Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund? (It's illegal for one thing!)"
Message-ID: <1o9ch2pv1bc148161ihkt26ngjteacj4p8@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e0028c076ac46510?fwc=1
"Kenneth N McVay is a Goy Mamzer Totally Owned by Jewry"
Message-ID: 97ba28fa14b592c4ca0079950858babe@remailer.metacolo.com


B'NAI BRITH, SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION AND NIZKOR.ORG SHOULD ALL 
BE SHUT DOWN AND THE PERPETRATORS IN EACH INSTITUTION MUST BE 
PROSECUTED TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW. THEIR TAX EVASIONS SCHEMES
ARE CRIMES AGAINST THE WORKING PEOPLE; CRIMES WHICH SHOULD NOT 
GO UNPUNISHED.


JEWS ONCE AGAIN ABUSING THEIR TAX EXEMPT STATUS TO FUND A NON-EXEMPT
NIZKOR.ORG IN ELABORATE MONEY LAUNDERING AND KICKBACK SCAM? 
IRS & CRA WHERE ARE YOU?



For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case -
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com,
or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com,
or KenMcVay@vex.net
Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex,
homosexuals and the like.

>Canadian Jew News had  a huge banner headline story, over 2 pages,
>[pages 12 & 28] in the issue of December 6 2007 regarding a major 
>scandal involving the current BB Canada  managers.

>Since this is a ZYD newspaper, it can not be called anti-semitic.
>Published for jews, it MUST be TRUE!!

So stupid why didn't you show the url?
The entire original article is below, cretin.

>No wonder honest jews are incenced!

>It seems that large group of past presidents, and BB lodge presidents,
>are even considering breaking away from the present BB and setting 
>up a new jew charity group.

>Apparently the present gang running BB have refused to provide 
>audited  financial statements before the AGM, as required. members 
>are concerned about  what is happening to all the funds collected.

>For example, is the money being LAUNDERED for the BUSINESS 
>RUN BY Shabbas-Goy Ken McVay LEGAL?

Ken McVay uber alles.

>Henry Gimpel a former regional BB Chair, said that a core
>group of 15-20 former BB executives,are extremely concerned.

Battle brewing at B’nai Brith Canada  
By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter     
Thursday, 06 December 2007  
TORONTO — A nasty battle is brewing at B’nai Brith Canada (BBC) over
allegations the organization’s head office has centralized too much
power and is unaccountable to members – despite a decision of B’nai
Brith International’s (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have
addressed the issue.

At least three former senior officials of B’nai Brith Canada are
raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at
BBC’s head office in Toronto. Dissatisfaction is so great there has
been talk of breaking away to form a new service organization, one of
the ex-officials said.

At the same time, a group calling themselves “concerned members of
B’nai Brith Canada” have launched a newsletter purporting to offer
“BBC news without the spin.” Its May 10, 2007, inaugural issue states
the group’s goal is to “end the current dysfunctional corporate
governance at BBC and restore it to its once prominent position as a
respected and admired organization both inside and outside the Jewish
community.” The group claims to represent lodge past presidents, BBC
past presidents, members of BBC’s board of governors and national
administrative board.

The group’s concerns were first reported in the New York-based paper
the Forward.

BBC’s head office, meanwhile, rejects outright any suggestion there is
anything amiss in the organization’s corporate governance. Frank
Dimant, BBC’s executive vice-president, said all institutional changes
have been passed lawfully and complaints regarding the organization’s
corporate structure have been definitively rejected by B’nai Brith
International’s (BBI) highest appeal court. BBI is BBC’s parent
organization.

In interviews with The CJN, two former national presidents and a past
chair of the Toronto regional co-ordinating committee said too much
power is concentrated at the organization’s head office in Toronto and
the service group’s 4,000 members are being shut out of
decision-making. They called for greater corporate accountability and
transparency, particularly strict adherence to the organization’s
constitution, which requires the presentation of audited financial
statements prior to the annual general meeting  (AGM).

Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to
20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge
presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has
been taking.

A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel
said that “problems really started when we stopped getting financial
statements” in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when
slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation.

“Everything was manipulated,” he said.

“We want accountability. We are raising funds for B’nai Brith. How is
that money used? Where does it go? We don’t know.”

Gimpel suggested B’nai Brith might face a serious revolt of the lodges
if the organization is not more responsive – perhaps even a
“breakaway” by some. “They’re getting more and more fed up. There’s
been talk about it,” he said.

Morley Wolfe and Harvey Crestohl – both BBC past presidents – said
they want to see B’nai Brith revert to a more democratic,
representative and transparent organization.

Most BBC members don’t know or don’t care about the goings-on at
headquarters, Wolfe said. They are content to participate in lodge
activities and don’t realize the organization has changed, he added.

He discounted suggestions that lodges might break away. BBC “still
does good work,” he said.

What he is after is reform.

“I’m not trying to destroy the organization,” he said. “I’m trying to
get some accountability and transparency.”

Crestohl, who served as BBC president in the late 1970s and who has
been a lodge member for 51 years, said he and the other past
presidents would like to see more BBC members get involved in
organizational governance.

“We need a grassroots movement. We also need some leaders in the
community who give support to B’nai Brith to realize what’s going on
and exert their influence on those running things to revert to being a
democratically run organization,” he said.

Dimant stated that BBI’s appeals court considered all the criticisms
and on July 20, 2007, ruled that “all the accusations have been
debunked.”

“This kind of guerrilla war is baseless and has been judged to be
without merit, without basis and can only be harmful to the total
Jewish community,” he said.

Dimant said B’nai Brith Canada has adopted a new constitution and
rules of governance similar to those employed by many other Jewish
organizations.

In particular, its constitution mirrors that of BBI. The change was
designed to strengthen its governance practices, stated BBC national
president Gerry Weinstein.

BBC provided The CJN with a one-paragraph statement quoting the BBI
appeals court judgment, but it did not provide any supporting
documentation.

The court ruled: “Having carefully reviewed all the pleadings,
arguments and documentation put forward by the parties, the justices
of this honourable court do unanimously find that there is no basis to
the complaints on which the appellants rely. The amended constitution
of B’nai Brith Canada was duly passed at a legally constituted meeting
of the organization within its governing body’s full jurisdiction. No
irregularity in the procedures followed by B’nai Brith Canada has been
made out that would invoke the jurisdiction of this court.
Accordingly, the appeal is hereby dismissed.”

Dimant said despite the court’s finding, “you have some disgruntled
members, a handful, very small.”

He said some have ties to The CJN and can be said to have a personal
conflict of interest in seeking to undermine BBC’s Jewish Tribune
newspaper.

As for the others, “we are talking about some individuals who like to
think history was different at one point. I think lots of people want
to recapture youth and reflect on things that didn’t happen the way
they remembered.

“My concern is that BBC is a leading Jewish organization, high
profile, which has great government relations. Our League [for Human
Rights] is doing a superb job to battle anti-Semitism. It would seem
to me the energies of these people should be directed forward to help
the Jewish community,” he said.

For his part, Gimpel rejects the BBI court decision, calling it “a
travesty of justice.”

He speculated that three, perhaps four lodges accounting for 25 per
cent of BBC’s membership might eventually leave the organization.

“I give B’nai Brith two years if this carries on. Members are getting
fed up… The lodges will be gone.”

http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86


In other words at worst only 20% will leave. Jews argue it is well
documented in the Bible. One person has a complaint and no one else of
the Jewish faith is backing him.
 
  
>Gimpel has stated that"problems really started when we stopped 
>getting financial statements in advance of the AGMs"

>"Everything was manipulated."

>We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith.
>How is that money used?
>Where does it go?
>We don't know."

>Since Ken McVay has been outed as being involved in
>ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for
>fraudulent tax charity receipts from Bb, no wonder
>executives of BB are very concerned.

>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
>for JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com

>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
>WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case -
>no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
>Christkiller ZHIDS!!

The Romans killed the LORD not Jews. You Nazis don't even tithe.
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org

Does he still clean the toilets of Turks?
>IHR - www.ihr.org

>Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org

Under constant FBI surveillance and the SCPL as well.
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage

>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
>Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
>American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
>Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com,
or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com,
or KenMcVay@vex.net
Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex,
homosexuals and the like.


From: Caduceus@eris.io.com
Date: Sat,  5 Jan 2008 21:10:15 +0000 (UTC)

Canadian Jewish News
Battle Brewing at B'nai Brith Canada
By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter
Thursday, 06 December 2007

TORONTO - A nasty battle is brewing at B'nai Brith Canada (BBC) over
allegations the organization's head office has centralized too much
power and is unaccountable to members - despite a decision of B'nai
Brith International's (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have
addressed the issue.

At least three former senior officials of B'nai Brith Canada are
raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at
BBC's head office in Toronto. Dissatisfaction is so great there has
been talk of breaking away to form a new service organization, one of
the ex-officials said.

At the same time, a group calling themselves "concerned members of
B'nai Brith Canada" have launched a newsletter purporting to offer
"BBC news without the spin." Its May 10, 2007, inaugural issue states
the group's goal is to "end the current dysfunctional corporate
governance at BBC and restore it to its once prominent position as a
respected and admired organization both inside and outside the Jewish
community." The group claims to represent lodge past presidents, BBC
past presidents, members of BBC's board of governors and national
administrative board.

The group's concerns were first reported in the New York-based paper
the Forward.

BBC's head office, meanwhile, rejects outright any suggestion there is
anything amiss in the organization's corporate governance. Frank
Dimant, BBC's executive vice-president, said all institutional changes
have been passed lawfully and complaints regarding the organization's
corporate structure have been definitively rejected by B'nai Brith
International's (BBI) highest appeal court. BBI is BBC's parent
organization.

In interviews with The CJN, two former national presidents and a past
chair of the Toronto regional co-ordinating committee said too much
power is concentrated at the organization's head office in Toronto and
the service group's 4,000 members are being shut out of
decision-making. They called for greater corporate accountability and
transparency, particularly strict adherence to the organization's
constitution, which requires the presentation of audited financial
statements prior to the annual general meeting  (AGM).

Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to
20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge
presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has
been taking.

A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel
said that "problems really started when we stopped getting financial
statements" in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when
slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation.

"Everything was manipulated," he said.

"We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith. How is
that money used? Where does it go? We don't know."

[Since Ken McVay [The Nizkor Project] has been outed as being involved
in ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for fraudulent tax
charity receipts from BB, no wonder executives of BB are very concerned.
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
 "NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam"
 Message-ID: 
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
 "Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?"
 Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com> ]

Gimpel suggested B'nai Brith might face a serious revolt of the lodges
if the organization is not more responsive - perhaps even a
"breakaway" by some. "They're getting more and more fed up. There's
been talk about it," he said.

Morley Wolfe and Harvey Crestohl - both BBC past presidents - said
they want to see B'nai Brith revert to a more democratic,
representative and transparent organization.

Most BBC members don't know or don't care about the goings-on at
headquarters, Wolfe said. They are content to participate in lodge
activities and don't realize the organization has changed, he added.

He discounted suggestions that lodges might break away. BBC "still
does good work," he said.

What he is after is reform.

"I'm not trying to destroy the organization," he said. "I'm trying to
get some accountability and transparency."

Crestohl, who served as BBC president in the late 1970s and who has
been a lodge member for 51 years, said he and the other past
presidents would like to see more BBC members get involved in
organizational governance.

"We need a grassroots movement. We also need some leaders in the
community who give support to B'nai Brith to realize what's going on
and exert their influence on those running things to revert to being a
democratically run organization," he said.

Dimant stated that BBI's appeals court considered all the criticisms
and on July 20, 2007, ruled that "all the accusations have been
debunked."

"This kind of guerrilla war is baseless and has been judged to be
without merit, without basis and can only be harmful to the total
Jewish community," he said.

Dimant said B'nai Brith Canada has adopted a new constitution and
rules of governance similar to those employed by many other Jewish
organizations.

In particular, its constitution mirrors that of BBI. The change was
designed to strengthen its governance practices, stated BBC national
president Gerry Weinstein.

BBC provided The CJN with a one-paragraph statement quoting the BBI
appeals court judgment, but it did not provide any supporting
documentation.

The court ruled: "Having carefully reviewed all the pleadings,
arguments and documentation put forward by the parties, the justices
of this honourable court do unanimously find that there is no basis to
the complaints on which the appellants rely. The amended constitution
of B'nai Brith Canada was duly passed at a legally constituted meeting
of the organization within its governing body's full jurisdiction. No
irregularity in the procedures followed by B'nai Brith Canada has been
made out that would invoke the jurisdiction of this court.
Accordingly, the appeal is hereby dismissed."

Dimant said despite the court's finding, "you have some disgruntled
members, a handful, very small."

He said some have ties to The CJN and can be said to have a personal
conflict of interest in seeking to undermine BBC's Jewish Tribune
newspaper.

As for the others, "we are talking about some individuals who like to
think history was different at one point. I think lots of people want
to recapture youth and reflect on things that didn't happen the way
they remembered.

"My concern is that BBC is a leading Jewish organization, high
profile, which has great government relations. Our League [for Human
Rights] is doing a superb job to battle anti-Semitism. It would seem
to me the energies of these people should be directed forward to help
the Jewish community," he said.

For his part, Gimpel rejects the BBI court decision, calling it "a
travesty of justice."

He speculated that three, perhaps four lodges accounting for 25 per
cent of BBC's membership might eventually leave the organization.

"I give B'nai Brith two years if this carries on. Members are getting
fed up. The lodges will be gone."

http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86

http://tinyurl.com/3ceybq

http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:XWq_EgV_AFYJ:www.cjnews.com/
index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D13693%26Itemid%3D86
+%22Battle+brewing+at+B%27nai+Brith+Canada%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&lr=lang_en

     Kenneth McVay's American money laundering operation exposed;

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/7e8cbfce5f14ee8c?fwc=1
"The reason Canadian Kenneth McVay is distancing himself from the San Antonio
Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund? (It's illegal for one thing!)"
 Message-ID: <1o9ch2pv1bc148161ihkt26ngjteacj4p8@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e0028c076ac46510?fwc=1
"Kenneth N McVay is a Goy Mamzer Totally Owned by Jewry"
 Message-ID: <97ba28fa14b592c4ca0079950858babe@remailer.metacolo.com>


Even the past executives of BB did not know about the FRAUD INVOLVING PAYMENTS
TO KEN McVAY, and the issuing of fraudulent charitable donation receipts for 
payments to McVay's one man BUSINESS!!


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website 
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION 
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - 
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the 
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
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Yes folks , I am the real  Cranky Frank Arthur - sometimes alias Grosvenor -
also alias Gay Ken McVay, and even alias Yitzhak Goldstein.

I am  the filthy  fraud  who changes names every few minutes,
because I am truly certifiably insane.

I am so insane I claim that all my critics are a "grosvenor"!
Now, I even claim that some of the "grosvenors" are now "mirelles"

Frank Arthur  [me]  sometimes I post using  Bellsouth Internet Group, 
except when I post using remailers, anonymously,  to  confuse people.

I am the fraud Grosvenor  [again me] and I often use anonymous remailers.
Sometimes as Grosvenor , or Frank Arthur, or Ken McVay, or Yitzhak Goldstein.
I often post to alt.homosexual - just to satisfy my need!

The genuine Grosvenor has not posted for years, so I stole his name to 
annoy him, and also readers!

Many people believe that I am really  gay Ken McVay the disgusting 
pervert fag from Nanaimo Canada doing all the posting, now that my
ZYD  benefactors  stopped financing all the BS and my one person 
web business.

All entries below collated from various sources and are
public domain.

And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights:
FRANK H ARTHUR 
378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE 
ATLANTA, GA 30315 
(770) 739-6508 


On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:32:43 GMT, Venceremos2
 wrote:
On Thu, 24 May 2007 12:28:25 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

Like Fraud? DickWarren is also known as Edmond Grosvomit the fraud who 
changes names every 5 minutes.
Quick send him money IF you are stupid!

Frank Arthur, alias Grosvenor ,[me]  is just another common thief. 
Some are pickpockets.
Some steal cars. Some steal groceries. 
This human turd steals names.

Here are some of his names-
Arthur Franks,Ernst Zundholz,Yitzak Goldstein,KenOyVeigh,
Frank Arthur,Ariadne,Boris,Bruno,DesiCohen,Flavia13,
Firestone@hemisphere,GeorgesFirestein,HansMueller,
GayMcvay,PanPiotr,RiainBartoski,VictorArcurius,
KenMcvaySOBC Ad infinitum.
All from Frank Arthur alias Edmond Grosvomit the fraud
There is no real person named Grosvomit, just me.

On Wed, 02 May 2007 17:02:32 GMT, KenOyVeigh
 wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:10:00 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

>Edmond Grosvomit still reeks of fraudulent names-Arthur Franks today?
>Then a continuous list of faked names again.
>Trust that idiot?

>From all the postings from Frank Arthur, with all the aliases, it seems that
>you must be the Grosvomit, nicht wahr?

On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:45:29 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

The poster using Frank Arthur is a fraud.[me]

I am the legitimate Frank Arthur and I did not post to this newsgroup.

I am  either insane, or just another ZYD liar, since I have constantly
been posting to this, and other newsgroups!!

The pervert who used my name is a person of no honor.
He is known as Grosvomit from Canada

There have never been any postings by anyone named Grosvomit, 
just piles of articles by me, Frank Arthur.

The way to know if I am the legitimate Frank Arthur it will show on the gray 
tab:

Organization: BellSouth Internet Group

There are no gray tabs on newsgroup articles, which proves I am a lunatic


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website 
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION 
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - 
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the 
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


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or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com,
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Canadian Jew News have a half page headline story in the issue for
March 6 2008, detailing the criminal conviction of Winnipeg lawyer
Gary Dolovich for possessing and distributing KIDDIE PORNOGRAPHY!

Dolovich, an alleged observant ZYD, was arrested in 2006 and then
charged with 17 charges for distributing child pornography over
the internet.

Sentencing will be this spring, and he is expected to get a heavy
jail term, in accord with his criminality.

Police in Winnipeg had been alerted to Dolovich by a national police
organisation involved in prosecuting kiddie porn distributors.

This case is reminiscent of the Cantor Stuart Friedman case from
Halifax, where Friedman was distributing kiddie porn from the synagogue!!
Instead of jail, he was allowed to flee to Boston, USA, where he
supposedly assisted the FBI by turning informant on his fellow perverts.


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case -
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
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    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
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American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


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Yes indeed , I am indeed  Frank Arthur - sometimes alias Grosvenor -  
also alias Gay Ken McVay, and even alias Yitzhak Goldstein.

And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights:
FRANK H ARTHUR 
378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE 
ATLANTA, GA 30315 
(770) 739-6508 


I am  the filthy  fraud  who changes names every few minutes,
because I am truly certifiably insane.

I am so insane I claim that all my critics are a "grosvenor"!
Now, I even claim that some of the "grosvenors" are now "mirelles"

Frank Arthur  [me]  sometimes I post using  Bellsouth Internet Group, 
except when I post using remailers, anonymously,  to  confuse people.

I am the fraud Grosvenor  [again me] and I often use anonymous remailers.
Sometimes as Grosvenor , or Frank Arthur, or Ken McVay, or Yitzhak Goldstein.
I often post to alt.homosexual - just to satisfy my need!

The genuine Grosvenor has not posted for years, so I stole his name to 
annoy him, and also readers!

Many people believe that I am really  gay Ken McVay the disgusting 
pervert fag from Nanaimo Canada doing all the posting, now that my
ZYD  benefactors  stopped financing all the BS and my one person 
web business.

All entries below collated from various sources and are
public domain.


On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:32:43 GMT, Venceremos2
 wrote:
On Thu, 24 May 2007 12:28:25 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

Like Fraud? DickWarren is also known as Edmond Grosvomit the fraud who 
changes names every 5 minutes.
Quick send him money IF you are stupid!

Frank Arthur, alias Grosvenor ,[me]  is just another common thief. 
Some are pickpockets.
Some steal cars. Some steal groceries. 
This human turd steals names.

Here are some of his names-
Arthur Franks,Ernst Zundholz,Yitzak Goldstein,KenOyVeigh,
Frank Arthur,Ariadne,Boris,Bruno,DesiCohen,Flavia13,
Firestone@hemisphere,GeorgesFirestein,HansMueller,
GayMcvay,PanPiotr,RiainBartoski,VictorArcurius,
KenMcvaySOBC Ad infinitum.
All from Frank Arthur alias Edmond Grosvomit the fraud
There is no real person named Grosvomit, just me.

On Wed, 02 May 2007 17:02:32 GMT, KenOyVeigh
 wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:10:00 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

>Edmond Grosvomit still reeks of fraudulent names-Arthur Franks today?
>Then a continuous list of faked names again.
>Trust that idiot?

>From all the postings from Frank Arthur, with all the aliases, it seems that
>you must be the Grosvomit, nicht wahr?

On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:45:29 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

The poster using Frank Arthur is a fraud.[me]

I am the legitimate Frank Arthur and I did not post to this newsgroup.

I am  either insane, or just another ZYD liar, since I have constantly
been posting to this, and other newsgroups!!

The pervert who used my name is a person of no honor.
He is known as Grosvomit from Canada

There have never been any postings by anyone named Grosvomit, 
just piles of articles by me, Frank Arthur.

The way to know if I am the legitimate Frank Arthur it will show on the gray 
tab:

Organization: BellSouth Internet Group

There are no gray tabs on newsgroup articles, which proves I am a lunatic


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website 
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION 
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - 
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the 
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


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From: "Gnostic" 
Subject: ZYD/Jew money laundering ring busted,
stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to Israel
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:58:29 -0500

U.S. Attorney General's Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District
Court for the Central District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva 
and
four other Spinka organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion
dollar tax fraud and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to
Los Angeles to Israel and elsewhere.

http://www.jewishjournal.com/home/preview.php?id=18767

2008-01-11

The Spinka money trail -- and the informant who brought them down

By Amy Klein, Religion Editor

Spinka defendants and supporters as they cross the street to the federal
courthouse in downtown Los Angeles on Dec. 31, 2007. Courthouse photos by
Dan Kacvinski

The first snow flutters hesitantly in Brooklyn. Men wearing fur streimel
hats and women wearing sheitls walk briskly past the corner of 15th Avenue
and 58th Street in Boro Park as if nothing extraordinary has happened here.

And why not? The kosher shops of this self-contained ultra-Orthodox
neighborhood -- practically a city onto itself -- are still a few blocks
down, and here on this bleak corner, there are only three orange school
buses parked in front of a four-story, dark-red brick building, which sits
on a residential street, where tall, narrow houses nearly overlap. The
structure (photo below) is rather nondescript and unimposing -- garbage 
bags
are piled haphazardly by a front gate, bars protect the windows, young boys
can be heard chanting from behind the locked door and a white sign with sky
blue Hebrew lettering reads: "Yeshiva Imrei Yosef Spinka."


A buzzer sounds. The door opens. No one asks who rang the bell. Up the four
steps, a reception window sits empty. Hazy yellow fluorescent lights
illuminate the narrow hallways adorned with graying yellow paint and frayed
industrial carpeting. If there are millions -- or even thousands -- of
dollars going to the Spinka yeshiva, it certainly doesn't seem like it's
coming here.

This despite the fact that on Dec. 19, 2007, the U.S. Attorney General's
Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District Court for the Central
District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva and four other Spinka
organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion dollar tax fraud
and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to
Israel and elsewhere.

Two of those indicted are Rabbi Naftali Tzi Weisz, 59, the Grand Rabbi of
Spinka, a Brooklyn-based Chasidic sect, whose yeshiva is in this
undistinguished building, and his gabbai (assistant), Moshe Zigelman, 60.

Weisz is just one of a number of Grand Rebbes of Spinka, a Chasidic sect
that originated in Romania in the 19th century. He is the
great-great-grandson of the founding rabbi, and one of about a dozen Grand
Spinka Rebbes who live in Boro Park or Williamsburg, in Brooklyn, or Bnei
Brak and Jerusalem in Israel.

Four Los Angeles men were among those charged with taking part in the
scheme: Yaacov (Yankel) Zeivald, 43, a self-described scribe (sofer) from
Valley Village (photo, right); Yosef Nachum Naiman, 55, the owner of Shatz
Et Naiman, d.b.a. Jerusalem Tours; Alan Jay Friedman, 43, a businessman 
from
Pico-Robertson who sits on the board of the Orthodox Union; and Moshe 
Lazar,
60, owner of Lazar Diamonds, a Los Angeles jewelry company.

Although many of the details of the case have not yet been revealed -- a
trial date is set for Feb. 12, but the defendants' lawyers say it will be
postponed at least a year -- what is emerging from the indictment, the
search warrant and other documents of public record is a complex
money-laundering scheme. According to the documents, people donated money 
to
the Spinka institutions but then received 80 percent to 95 percent of their
donations back, yet wrote off the full amount on their taxes.

These charges are just the beginning of a much larger case, Daniel J.
O'Brien, an assistant U.S. attorney in the major frauds section, based in
Los Angeles, said in an interview with The Journal.

"There were many other people that contributed in this fashion that would 
be
the subject of government investigations," O'Brien said.

While O'Brien said he has documentation that the Spinka institutions took 
in
about $750,000 through the scheme -- then writing receipts for $8.7
million -- in 2007 alone, the assistant U.S. attorney believes the fraud 
has
been going on for decades: "I believe this goes on beyond living memory,"
possibly for generations.

This is certainly not the first time an ultra-Orthodox sect has been 
accused
of attempting to break the laws of the secular government -- aramos, or
schemes, were perpetrated over the centuries in the shtetls of Europe. In
the last decade, arrests have occurred in religious communities in 
Brooklyn,
Lakewood, N.J., and upstate New York.

However, this particular case has shocked Los Angeles' ultra-Orthodox
community, not only because Los Angeles had largely been exempt from such
cases in the past, but also because some of the city's prominent members
have been charged as being at the center of the scheme.

As a result, the case has sparked a fierce debate about the type of 
behavior
that is acceptable for observant people and what type of religious 
community
Los Angeles would like to be. But there's also debate about the laws of a
moser, an informant, because one person who was not charged was the primary
source of information for the federal case -- though he allegedly started
out as one of the perpetrators.



THE BEGINNING

On June 29, 2004, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission filed civil
fraud charges against Robert A. Kasirer and four executives of Heritage
Healthcare of America, which sold $131 million in bonds to 1,800 investors
in 36 states from 1996-1999, claiming that the money would be used to fund
10 health care facilities. In October of that year, Kasirer approached the
federal government and "expressed a desire to plead guilty to criminal
charges arising out of the investigation and agreed to reveal other 
criminal
conduct he and others had committed, with a view that any sentence he might
receive would be reduced," according to an affidavit for a search warrant
submitted by FBI Special Agent Ryan Heaton on Dec. 18, 2007.

Although the search warrant affidavit identifies Kasirer only as
"confidential witness (CW-1)" and the recent grand jury indictment refers 
to
a witness named only as RK, the companies in the affidavit attributed to
CW-1 and RK are run by Kasirer, and several members of the Los Angeles
community, who asked for confidentiality, have confirmed his involvement.

In 2004, under federal surveillance, the informant identified in the
transcript as CW-1 resumed activities he admitted to having conducted with
the Spinka since 1990, in which "he caused several million dollars in
contributions to be mailed to the tax-exempt organizations operating within
the umbrella of Spinka," he is quoted in federal documents as having told
the FBI.

As part of the scam, Weisz and Zigelman allegedly would return 80 to 95
percent of Kasirer's contributions.

On Oct. 31, 2007, the SEC issued a final judgment against Kasirer, ordering
him to pay $4,991,434.

"Kasirer consented to the entry of the final judgment without admitting or
denying the allegations contained in the commission's case," according to
the SEC enforcement proceedings.

In the interim, according to the transcripts, Kasirer began to wear a 
device
to record his interactions for the government. On Dec. 20, 2004, he told
Zigelman, the Spinka rebbe's gabbai, that he never intended to pay the SEC.

According to the wiretapped transcripts, Kasirer told Zigelman: "The SEC
investigation is done. But they want me to pay them a lot of money."

"How much?" Zigelman asked.

"Possibly one, one and a half," Kasirer said.

"Million?" Zigelman asked.

Kasirer confirmed the amount and said he had told the SEC he didn't have 
the
money. In the transcript, Kasirer then went on to say that he'd lied to the
SEC, and that, in fact he had the money but wanted to hide that fact.

"What is SEC?" Zigelman asked.

Kasirer explained, and Zigelman replied, "Yes, yes, but you don't have to
give it to them."

For the next three years, Kasirer recorded conversations with targets of 
the
government investigation, and, using government funds, conducted a dozen
monetary transactions with Zigelman, according to transcripts of
conversations conducted in English, Hebrew, Yiddish and Hungarian. The
government also tapped the phones of Zigelman and Weisz.



CASH OR CHARGE?

For Kasirer, there were two ways the operation worked: At first he
reportedly received his "donations" back in cash, and when he became
uncomfortable with the large cash amounts floating around, he set up an
Israeli account.

According to the transcripts, Kasirer's money was allegedly refunded to him
by various men, all now defendants in the case: Naiman, Zeivald, Friedman
and Lazar, all of whom have pleaded not guilty to the charges against them.

Among the transactions in the transcripts, for example, was one on Feb. 8,
2007. Kasirer FedEx-ed a check for $20,000 made out to Yeshiva Imrei Yosef
to Zigelman. On Feb. 15, 2007, Lazar delivered $18,600 to Kasirer's house.
On Feb. 22, 2007, Kasirer got a letter in the mail on a Yeshiva Imrei Yosef
Spinka letterhead thanking Kasirer for his $20,000 donation to a tax-exempt
organization, saying the "donation" was entirely tax deductible and Kasirer
had received no "goods" or "services" in exchange for the contribution.

The Spinka Yeshiva charged Kasirer up to 7.5 percent for laundering the
money, which was a cause for some dispute, according to the wiretaps.

On Dec. 16, 2005, Kasirer told Joseph Roth, an assistant manager at Bank
Mizrahi -- which is based in Israel but has a branch in Los Angeles -- to
set up a new account so he could move money internationally.

On Jan. 12, 2006, Tel Aviv lawyer Jacob Kantor -- the only one of those
named in the indictment who is still at large -- is reported in the
transcripts offering to Kasirer to create documents to incorporate a 
company
called Bedford Holdings & Investments, which would be "held in confidence 
by
the bank and can only be disclosed after a complicated procedure by the 
Bank
of Israel, if there is evidence that the monies resulted from criminal
activities, such as drugs -- tax matters are not an issue." Much like
Switzerland, Israel has laws that protect investors, and the country does
not investigate monetary origins, even on suspicion of tax fraud.

"So, we wanted to basically set everything up the same way as it was
before," Kasirer told Roth in the affidavit transcripts. Later in the
document, he tells Zigelman that Kantor set up a trust in Israel so that
nothing would be left in Kasirer's name in order to hide his money from the
SEC. Then he'd take a loan from the Los Angeles branch of an unnamed 
Israeli
bank, "so I can use the money here." Later, he says in the affidavit, he
would take the money back from Israel and repay the loan here.

Mizrahi Bank, which is never named in the affidavit, is under investigation
by the federal government, according to Assistant U.S. Attorney O'Brien.

"We believe the bank offers this thing as a product to clients in the
U.S. -- the bank pitches this as a money-laundering product. I believe 
there
are multiple agents involved," O'Brien said, including Kantor.

The government also believes that there are many people like Kasirer, "who
occupy the same role as he did in this conspiracy," O'Brien said.

But Kasirer was not the creator of this conspiracy, according to the
government. His father -- the recently deceased Jacob (Yankel) Kasirer who
founded the Bais Yaakov School for Girls on Beverly Boulevard in Los 
Angeles
and is known as a "stalwart" of the Jewish community -- was involved with
the scheme. According to the transcripts, when Kasirer was discussing his
distress over his earlier money-laundering penalty with Lazar, the diamond
dealer said, "It's not something you started."

Kasirer replied, "I was really not aware of what he did with my father."

In addition, in a taped conversation, the Spinka Rebbe told Kasirer he
wanted to meet with his father.

"RK's father was engaged in this prior to RK being involved in it," O'Brien
said in an interview. "We believe that this has origins much earlier than
that -- beyond living memory."




CRIME IS NOT SO BAD

"There are a million ways that religious institutions defraud the
government," said one Brooklyn accountant who asked that his name be
withheld. However, it's not just the Jews, he claimed, "churches do the 
same
thing." Churches and synagogues are exempt from filing tax returns --
although many do -- and the government usually does not audit unless it has
probable cause. As a result, this can make fraud easier.

In the last decade or so, a number of Chasidic institutions on the East
Coast have been charged with such crimes, including the 1997 case against
the Skverer Hasidim in Rockland County, N.Y., where four men were found
guilty of defrauding the government of millions of dollars in federal Pell
Grants. But in the Orthodox community, many defended them, despite the
crime, because the money was used to support needy yeshiva students.

"Nobody here owns a yacht," a resident reportedly said, and the feeling
then -- as with many such institutional fraud cases -- that if the money is
used to help the community and not line someone's pockets, it's not so bad.

That, in fact, is a pervasive attitude these days in Brooklyn, where the
Spinka case raised fewer eyebrows than in Los Angeles, because the attitude
is everyone does something. This kind of discussion has been a hot topic on
many Internet blogs that discuss the ultra-Orthodox community.

"The government are thieves, what gives them the right to take 40 percent 
to
50 percent of someone's income? Anyone who can save yiddishe gelt from 
going
down that toilet is doing a mitzvah," one contributor wrote on the
Vosizneias (Yiddish for "What Is News?") blog.

The blog comments, though, seem to be about evenly divided between two
camps: On one hand are those castigating the government or the bloggers
posting the news for spreading gossip; on the other are those demanding 
that
the community finally put a stop to criminal behavior.

One particularly poignant plea came from New York white-collar defense
attorney Joel Cohen, in an essay published in 2006 titled, "Jewish Felons:
The Problem of Criminality in Observant Communities." Cohen described
witnessing a disturbing rise in crime among Orthodox and Chasidic Jews.

"The problem in the observant community, however, is not merely occasional,
nor does it often make headlines. Daily, in metropolises around the 
country,
yarmulka-wearing criminal defendants appear before the bar of justice," he
wrote.

Some prisons -- especially in New York, Los Angeles and Miami -- have daily
minyans, visiting rabbis, kosher food, classes and Shabbat meals, Cohen
wrote. "The most common charge is fraud: against businessmen and
run-of-the-mill citizens alike, most frequently involving victims outside 
of
the Jewish community, against the government, against insurance carriers,
against banking institutions, health care fraud, money-laundering and
stock-swindling."

Cohen pleads with his fellow Orthodox Jews to denounce the criminal
activity:

"Only with the open denouncement of wrongdoing from within the particular
observant community can the community hope to demonstrate and protect the
Torah's commitment to honesty in one's interpersonal dealings as being at
least equal to, if not greater than, its commitment to technical observance
of mitzvoth," he wrote



DON'T BLAME THE MESSENGER

But the most talked-about aspect of the case -- both among bloggers and at
Shabbat tables on both coasts -- has been the involvement of Kasirer. From
the start, most here guessed accurately who he was -- an informant who
turned state's evidence to save his own skin -- but what they wanted to 
know
was what was he? Was he a moser -- an informer, who, according to
traditional Jewish law, must be killed for turning against a Jew and is
denied access to "the world to come."

The Talmud forbids a Jew to inform on another Jew to a secular government,
even if that Jew violated both secular and Jewish law.

Today, among poskim -- Orthodox rabbinic deciders -- there is a debate over
whether a Jew may turn in another Jew in a democratic state. Some rabbis 
say
that laws of moser do not hold in the United States because they were
established to protect Jews from corrupt and anti-Semitic governments that
would likely torture and give Jews worse treatment than other prisoners 
than
merited by Jewish law.

This is not the case today in a democracy, they say. "These rules apply 
only
to one who informs on another to bandits and so endangers that person's
money and life, as these bandits chase after a person's body and money, and
thus one may use deadly force to save oneself," it is written in the Aruch
Hashulchan, ("Laying the Table," a book about Jewish law written in the 
late
19th century).

But many insist that the laws of moser do apply today, and that it is
forbidden by Jewish law for one Jew to inform on another to any secular
government.

Rabbi Ezra Batzri in "Dinnai Mamonut" ("Laws of Money") says informing is
prohibited. "All rules of informing are applicable even currently .... Even
if they bring all matter to court, it is clear that, through interrogation
and the police, government can destroy people, and in many places they do,
in fact, destroy people."

Some rabbis say you cannot be a moser, even in America, except when the
person doing the questionable act may be a danger to others -- a child
molester, a rapist, a murderer. In those cases, it would be "permitted" to
inform the authorities, writes Rabbi Hershel Schacther, a top posek. Which
means that in the case of financial wrongdoings, a Jew is not allowed to
inform on another Jew.

When the Spinka case broke, the Rabbinical Council of California (RCC)
discussed the informant issue, RCC President Rabbi Meyer May said. But the
council decided to let other halachic authorities deal with the question.

"There is no way to explain how perfidious what RK did is. He violated the
spirit of Jewish law," May said. "Having said that, it doesn't justify what
was done on the other side [by the defendants]."

Although many were focusing on the moser and other justifications like
"everybody does it" and "we pay more taxes than everyone else," that is
beside the point, May said. The point, he continued, is to own up to any
wrongdoings. "Our business is the integrity [of the individual]," he said.
"Something which is wrong is wrong."

Still, others, like lawyer and blog commentator Cohen, argue that it is
precisely such concern about laws like that of moser -- which forbid a Jew
to turn in another Jew to authorities, and chilul Hashem, desecrating God's
name in public, which has created an atmosphere were people are more
concerned with protecting their own than following the laws of the U.S.
government.

"To ignore crime within our ranks does us a great disservice, both because
it weakens us as a community and because tolerating it suggests to the
outside world that Judaism does not promote a righteous moral compass,"
Cohen wrote.



BUSINESS AS USUAL

On Monday morning, Dec. 31, the streets of downtown Los Angeles were eerily
empty; nearly everyone had left town. But the Roybal Federal Courthouse was
open, and by 8:30 a.m. there were enough Chasidic men in the third-floor
corridor for a minyan: 11 -- not to mention a few clean-shaven men wearing
black yarmulkes -- all waiting for the morning's arraignment hearings to
begin.

Grand Spinka Rebbe Weisz didn't converse much with his gabbai Zigelman. The
men pored over Hebrew books -- either studying holy texts or reciting
psalms -- and intermittently conversed with the lawyers. It would be an 
hour
until the court would open and another until their own hearing would begin.

Everyone was anxious for the hearing to start -- not because of the 
upcoming
secular New Year, which the ultra-Orthodox do not celebrate -- but so that
they could return to their homes and to their lives in Brooklyn.

The seven men had been arrested and jailed on Dec. 19, a Wednesday, and 
most
were released before Shabbat.

Weisz and Zeligman had spent another Shabbat in Los Angeles, detained until
the arraignment. The Spinka Rebbe attended Rabbi Chaim Boruch Rubin's
synagogue in Hancock Park -- which itself is entangled in a legal battle
over land use -- and was given the honor of leading services. At this, a 
few
men walked out in protest.

"As a parent in the community and as a rabbi in the community, since there
were children in the room and since we have an obligation to teach our
children right and wrong," one person who left quietly said later. "I have
no problem [with the Spinka Rebbe] sitting in the front in his normal
[honored] seat," but the man who walked out said he would have preferred
"one stage less than normal" to show children "that it's not business as
usual."

When the court opened for the hearing, most of the defendants and their
supporters filed into the first row of the courtroom, except for the
clean-shaven Friedman, who sat in the back, a few seats away from Zeivald,
who was accompanied by an Israeli translator.

A Yiddish translator sat next to the Spinka Rebbe, and only Roth, the
Israeli banker, came from the entrance behind a glass partition, clad in
green prison outfit. He was the only one not yet released on bail, at the
time, because the government said he was believed to pose a flight risk.
Roth remains in custody.

Finally, their turn arrived. The seven filed up front, each with his
separate lawyers. (Famed lawyer Donald Etra, who was originally retained to
defend Weisz, was by then no longer on the case). They each declined to 
have
the charges read to them.

"How do you plead?" Magistrate Judge Alicia G. Rosenberg asked.

One by one, Weisz, Zigelman, Naiman, Zievald, Friedman, Lazar and Roth each
said: "Not guilty."

By 11 a.m., they filed out of the courtroom.

By Shabbat, Jan. 4, the Grand Spinka Rebbe was back in Boro Park to lead 
his
congregation. He's free on $2 million bail, allowed to travel for work in
New York and New Jersey, and of course, to California, where he and
Zigelman, among others, await trial.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinka_financial_controversy

This is similar to the TAX FRAUD involving Ken McVay & B'nai Brith!!


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case -
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


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or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com,
or KenMcVay@vex.net

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From: Frank Arthur 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,alt.revisionism,soc.culture.palestine
Subject: Mcvay/Nizkor & Harry Mazal/BB Engaged in Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING! PROOF!!
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Mcvay and his  one fag  business Nizkor, [where only gay McVay 
gets paid there], together with Harry Mazal/BB ARE Engaged 
in completely Illegal  MONEY LAUNDERING and tax frauds! 

They are being considered for  prosecution in both USA & Canada!

Proof is from McVay's & Harry Mazal's  own postings detailing his money
laundering!

Time for the Auditor-General of Canada to get the RCMP, and Interpol 
plus IRS and RICO onto McVay and his criminal money laundering activities.

With Bnai Brith involved, and Harry Mazal in the USA, there must be
many, many millions of dollars for the tax authorities to recover,
including from those donors who supported all the criminality!!

No wonder BB are not happy at all the government investigations of the scam!

Links to Doc Tavish posts which give proof to McVay's criminality and 
money being laundered:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/5e2047e8f5129b1a?fwc=1
Subject: Nizkor Project Director Kenneth McVay is a Mamzer Totally 
Owned and Controlled by Jews   v3.0   U0221
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:43:31 -0600
Message-ID: 

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/1d1cf50fcc74cca7?fwc=1
Subject: $50,000+ Not Reported to CCRA by The Nizkor Project? Nizkor 
Director Ken McVay is Lying About Funds
He Has Apparently NOT Reported to CCRA!! SAAF Reports are Further 
Proof! V5.0 U_0122
Message-ID: 
Date: 22 Jan 2006 09:24:36 GMT
                  Two Companion pieces to the above:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/af974e5ec5085cce?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: McVaySlamDunked_A5 and McVaySlamDunked_A6)
Subject: SAAF San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund  -- Some New 
Archives and The Same Funding Lie by
Ken McVay Exposed V3-0   T_0822
Message-ID: <3i9lg1p8efhpoda0r07vatjs87jmr1pfb3@4ax.com>
Date: 23 Aug 2005 04:32:17 GMT
------------------------------AND-------------------------------
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/2a8fb4468666dd3?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Caught Lying About San Antonio 
Connection! (Those Two U.S. Servers!)
V3.0  Updated Links T_0625
Message-ID: 
Date: 26 Jun 2005 02:36:20 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
Subject: Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam? 
You All be the Judges!  V2-0
Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com>
Date: 26 Jun 2005 18:49:41 GMT
  (Actually the Nizkor Endowment Fund and the Nizkor Trust Fund 
should both be renamed the Kenneth McVay
Endowment Fund and the Kenneth McVay Trust Fund seeing how the Nizkor 
Project is a web site solely operated
by Kenneth McVay from a back room of his personal residence. McVay is 
the sole recipient and beneficiary of
those two "bogus" funds!)
  Why Ken Lewis was so vicious in his attacks against me in his 
defense of McVay; he's evidently getting some
of that laundered money too as indicated here:
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a76ebe4ccbcb71ee?fwc=1
Subject: Ken Lewis' Famous Last Words RE Ken McVay's Address AND Ken 
Lewis Benefitting from McVay's
Funding Scams?   V2.0  T_1227
Message-ID: 
Date: 28 Dec 2005 05:21:28 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Apparent Funding Kick Backs and 
Tax Scam  V2.0
Message-ID: 
Date: 26 Jun 2005 03:06:12 GMT
  (The above details and documents the tax scheme invented and 
currently perpetrated by B'nai Brith Canada and
Kenneth McVay's Nizkor Project in which B'nai Brith launders exempt 
donations and passes them to McVay as
tax free even though Ken McVay is not legally allowed to receive 
exempt donations. This is more or less a similar
tax scheme which resulted in criminal prosecutions.)


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant




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From: Frank Arthur 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.palestine,alt.homosexuality
Subject: Frank Arthur=alias Grosvenor=Gay Ken McVay - Invites Calls & Visits
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Yes indeed , I am indeed  Frank Arthur - sometimes alias Grosvenor -  
also alias Gay Ken McVay, and even alias Yitzhak Goldstein.

And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights:
FRANK H ARTHUR 
378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE 
ATLANTA, GA 30315 
(770) 739-6508 

Frank Arthur sometimes posts via Bellsouth Internet Group
The fraud Grosvenor [me]  uses anonymous remailers.
Grosvomit often posts to alt.homosexual- my need!
I don't use my degenerate father's name because I am ashamed of 
him so I steal other's names, from gravestones, or internet.

I am  the filthy  fraud  who changes names every few minutes,
because I am truly certifiably insane.

I am so insane I claim that all my critics are a "grosvenor"!
Now, I even claim that some of the "grosvenors" are now "mirelles"

Frank Arthur  [me]  sometimes I post using  Bellsouth Internet Group, 
except when I post using remailers, anonymously,  to  confuse people.

I am the fraud Grosvenor  [again me] and I often use anonymous remailers.
Sometimes as Grosvenor , or Frank Arthur, or Ken McVay, or Yitzhak Goldstein.
I often post to alt.homosexual - just to satisfy my need!

The genuine Grosvenor has not posted for years, so I stole his name to 
annoy him, and also readers!

Many people believe that I am really  gay Ken McVay the disgusting 
pervert fag from Nanaimo Canada doing all the posting, now that my
ZYD  benefactors  stopped financing all the BS and my one person 
web business.

All entries below collated from various sources and are
public domain.


On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:32:43 GMT, Venceremos2
 wrote:
On Thu, 24 May 2007 12:28:25 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

Like Fraud? DickWarren is also known as Edmond Grosvomit the fraud who 
changes names every 5 minutes.
Quick send him money IF you are stupid!

Frank Arthur, alias Grosvenor ,[me]  is just another common thief. 
Some are pickpockets.
Some steal cars. Some steal groceries. 
This human turd steals names.

Here are some of his names-
Arthur Franks,Ernst Zundholz,Yitzak Goldstein,KenOyVeigh,
Frank Arthur,Ariadne,Boris,Bruno,DesiCohen,Flavia13,
Firestone@hemisphere,GeorgesFirestein,HansMueller,
GayMcvay,PanPiotr,RiainBartoski,VictorArcurius,
KenMcvaySOBC Ad infinitum.
All from Frank Arthur alias Edmond Grosvomit the fraud
There is no real person named Grosvomit, just me.

On Wed, 02 May 2007 17:02:32 GMT, KenOyVeigh
 wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:10:00 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

>Edmond Grosvomit still reeks of fraudulent names-Arthur Franks today?
>Then a continuous list of faked names again.
>Trust that idiot?

>From all the postings from Frank Arthur, with all the aliases, it seems that
>you must be the Grosvomit, nicht wahr?

On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:45:29 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

The poster using Frank Arthur is a fraud.[me]

I am the legitimate Frank Arthur and I did not post to this newsgroup.

I am  either insane, or just another ZYD liar, since I have constantly
been posting to this, and other newsgroups!!

The pervert who used my name is a person of no honor.
He is known as Grosvomit from Canada

There have never been any postings by anyone named Grosvomit, 
just piles of articles by me, Frank Arthur.

The way to know if I am the legitimate Frank Arthur it will show on the gray 
tab:

Organization: BellSouth Internet Group

There are no gray tabs on newsgroup articles, which proves I am a lunatic


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website 
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION 
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - 
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the 
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,alt.revisionism,soc.culture.palestine
Subject: Mcvay/Nizkor & Harry Mazal/BB Engaged in Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING! PROOF!!
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Mcvay and his  one fag  business Nizkor, [where only  McVay 
gets paid there], together with Harry Mazal/BB ARE Engaged 
in completely Illegal  MONEY LAUNDERING and tax frauds! 

They are being considered for  prosecution in both USA & Canada!

Proof is from McVay's & Harry Mazal's  own postings detailing his money
laundering!

Time for the Auditor-General of Canada to get the RCMP, and Interpol 
plus IRS and RICO onto McVay and his criminal money laundering activities.

With Bnai Brith involved, and Harry Mazal in the USA, there must be
many, many millions of dollars for the tax authorities to recover,
including from those donors who supported all the criminality!!

No wonder BB are not happy at all the government investigations of the scam!

Links to Doc Tavish posts which give proof to McVay's criminality and 
money being laundered:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/5e2047e8f5129b1a?fwc=1
Subject: Nizkor Project Director Kenneth McVay is a Mamzer Totally 
Owned and Controlled by Jews   v3.0   U0221
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:43:31 -0600
Message-ID: 

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/1d1cf50fcc74cca7?fwc=1
Subject: $50,000+ Not Reported to CCRA by The Nizkor Project? Nizkor 
Director Ken McVay is Lying About Funds
He Has Apparently NOT Reported to CCRA!! SAAF Reports are Further 
Proof! V5.0 U_0122
Message-ID: 
Date: 22 Jan 2006 09:24:36 GMT
                  Two Companion pieces to the above:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/af974e5ec5085cce?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: McVaySlamDunked_A5 and McVaySlamDunked_A6)
Subject: SAAF San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund  -- Some New 
Archives and The Same Funding Lie by
Ken McVay Exposed V3-0   T_0822
Message-ID: <3i9lg1p8efhpoda0r07vatjs87jmr1pfb3@4ax.com>
Date: 23 Aug 2005 04:32:17 GMT
------------------------------AND-------------------------------
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/2a8fb4468666dd3?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Caught Lying About San Antonio 
Connection! (Those Two U.S. Servers!)
V3.0  Updated Links T_0625
Message-ID: 
Date: 26 Jun 2005 02:36:20 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
Subject: Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam? 
You All be the Judges!  V2-0
Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com>
Date: 26 Jun 2005 18:49:41 GMT
  (Actually the Nizkor Endowment Fund and the Nizkor Trust Fund 
should both be renamed the Kenneth McVay
Endowment Fund and the Kenneth McVay Trust Fund seeing how the Nizkor 
Project is a web site solely operated
by Kenneth McVay from a back room of his personal residence. McVay is 
the sole recipient and beneficiary of
those two "bogus" funds!)
  Why Ken Lewis was so vicious in his attacks against me in his 
defense of McVay; he's evidently getting some
of that laundered money too as indicated here:
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a76ebe4ccbcb71ee?fwc=1
Subject: Ken Lewis' Famous Last Words RE Ken McVay's Address AND Ken 
Lewis Benefitting from McVay's
Funding Scams?   V2.0  T_1227
Message-ID: 
Date: 28 Dec 2005 05:21:28 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Apparent Funding Kick Backs and 
Tax Scam  V2.0
Message-ID: 
Date: 26 Jun 2005 03:06:12 GMT
  (The above details and documents the tax scheme invented and 
currently perpetrated by B'nai Brith Canada and
Kenneth McVay's Nizkor Project in which B'nai Brith launders exempt 
donations and passes them to McVay as
tax free even though Ken McVay is not legally allowed to receive 
exempt donations. This is more or less a similar
tax scheme which resulted in criminal prosecutions.)


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant




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From: "Gnostic" 
Subject: ZYD/Jew money laundering ring busted, 
stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to Israel 
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:58:29 -0500

U.S. Attorney General's Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District
Court for the Central District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva and
four other Spinka organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion
dollar tax fraud and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to
Los Angeles to Israel and elsewhere.

http://www.jewishjournal.com/home/preview.php?id=18767

2008-01-11

The Spinka money trail -- and the informant who brought them down

By Amy Klein, Religion Editor

Spinka defendants and supporters as they cross the street to the federal
courthouse in downtown Los Angeles on Dec. 31, 2007. Courthouse photos by
Dan Kacvinski

The first snow flutters hesitantly in Brooklyn. Men wearing fur streimel
hats and women wearing sheitls walk briskly past the corner of 15th Avenue
and 58th Street in Boro Park as if nothing extraordinary has happened here.

And why not? The kosher shops of this self-contained ultra-Orthodox
neighborhood -- practically a city onto itself -- are still a few blocks
down, and here on this bleak corner, there are only three orange school
buses parked in front of a four-story, dark-red brick building, which sits
on a residential street, where tall, narrow houses nearly overlap. The
structure (photo below) is rather nondescript and unimposing -- garbage bags
are piled haphazardly by a front gate, bars protect the windows, young boys
can be heard chanting from behind the locked door and a white sign with sky
blue Hebrew lettering reads: "Yeshiva Imrei Yosef Spinka."


A buzzer sounds. The door opens. No one asks who rang the bell. Up the four
steps, a reception window sits empty. Hazy yellow fluorescent lights
illuminate the narrow hallways adorned with graying yellow paint and frayed
industrial carpeting. If there are millions -- or even thousands -- of
dollars going to the Spinka yeshiva, it certainly doesn't seem like it's
coming here.

This despite the fact that on Dec. 19, 2007, the U.S. Attorney General's
Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District Court for the Central
District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva and four other Spinka
organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion dollar tax fraud
and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to
Israel and elsewhere.

Two of those indicted are Rabbi Naftali Tzi Weisz, 59, the Grand Rabbi of
Spinka, a Brooklyn-based Chasidic sect, whose yeshiva is in this
undistinguished building, and his gabbai (assistant), Moshe Zigelman, 60.

Weisz is just one of a number of Grand Rebbes of Spinka, a Chasidic sect
that originated in Romania in the 19th century. He is the
great-great-grandson of the founding rabbi, and one of about a dozen Grand
Spinka Rebbes who live in Boro Park or Williamsburg, in Brooklyn, or Bnei
Brak and Jerusalem in Israel.

Four Los Angeles men were among those charged with taking part in the
scheme: Yaacov (Yankel) Zeivald, 43, a self-described scribe (sofer) from
Valley Village (photo, right); Yosef Nachum Naiman, 55, the owner of Shatz
Et Naiman, d.b.a. Jerusalem Tours; Alan Jay Friedman, 43, a businessman from
Pico-Robertson who sits on the board of the Orthodox Union; and Moshe Lazar,
60, owner of Lazar Diamonds, a Los Angeles jewelry company.

Although many of the details of the case have not yet been revealed -- a
trial date is set for Feb. 12, but the defendants' lawyers say it will be
postponed at least a year -- what is emerging from the indictment, the
search warrant and other documents of public record is a complex
money-laundering scheme. According to the documents, people donated money to
the Spinka institutions but then received 80 percent to 95 percent of their
donations back, yet wrote off the full amount on their taxes.

These charges are just the beginning of a much larger case, Daniel J.
O'Brien, an assistant U.S. attorney in the major frauds section, based in
Los Angeles, said in an interview with The Journal.

"There were many other people that contributed in this fashion that would be
the subject of government investigations," O'Brien said.

While O'Brien said he has documentation that the Spinka institutions took in
about $750,000 through the scheme -- then writing receipts for $8.7
million -- in 2007 alone, the assistant U.S. attorney believes the fraud has
been going on for decades: "I believe this goes on beyond living memory,"
possibly for generations.

This is certainly not the first time an ultra-Orthodox sect has been accused
of attempting to break the laws of the secular government -- aramos, or
schemes, were perpetrated over the centuries in the shtetls of Europe. In
the last decade, arrests have occurred in religious communities in Brooklyn,
Lakewood, N.J., and upstate New York.

However, this particular case has shocked Los Angeles' ultra-Orthodox
community, not only because Los Angeles had largely been exempt from such
cases in the past, but also because some of the city's prominent members
have been charged as being at the center of the scheme.

As a result, the case has sparked a fierce debate about the type of behavior
that is acceptable for observant people and what type of religious community
Los Angeles would like to be. But there's also debate about the laws of a
moser, an informant, because one person who was not charged was the primary
source of information for the federal case -- though he allegedly started
out as one of the perpetrators.



THE BEGINNING

On June 29, 2004, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission filed civil
fraud charges against Robert A. Kasirer and four executives of Heritage
Healthcare of America, which sold $131 million in bonds to 1,800 investors
in 36 states from 1996-1999, claiming that the money would be used to fund
10 health care facilities. In October of that year, Kasirer approached the
federal government and "expressed a desire to plead guilty to criminal
charges arising out of the investigation and agreed to reveal other criminal
conduct he and others had committed, with a view that any sentence he might
receive would be reduced," according to an affidavit for a search warrant
submitted by FBI Special Agent Ryan Heaton on Dec. 18, 2007.

Although the search warrant affidavit identifies Kasirer only as
"confidential witness (CW-1)" and the recent grand jury indictment refers to
a witness named only as RK, the companies in the affidavit attributed to
CW-1 and RK are run by Kasirer, and several members of the Los Angeles
community, who asked for confidentiality, have confirmed his involvement.

In 2004, under federal surveillance, the informant identified in the
transcript as CW-1 resumed activities he admitted to having conducted with
the Spinka since 1990, in which "he caused several million dollars in
contributions to be mailed to the tax-exempt organizations operating within
the umbrella of Spinka," he is quoted in federal documents as having told
the FBI.

As part of the scam, Weisz and Zigelman allegedly would return 80 to 95
percent of Kasirer's contributions.

On Oct. 31, 2007, the SEC issued a final judgment against Kasirer, ordering
him to pay $4,991,434.

"Kasirer consented to the entry of the final judgment without admitting or
denying the allegations contained in the commission's case," according to
the SEC enforcement proceedings.

In the interim, according to the transcripts, Kasirer began to wear a device
to record his interactions for the government. On Dec. 20, 2004, he told
Zigelman, the Spinka rebbe's gabbai, that he never intended to pay the SEC.

According to the wiretapped transcripts, Kasirer told Zigelman: "The SEC
investigation is done. But they want me to pay them a lot of money."

"How much?" Zigelman asked.

"Possibly one, one and a half," Kasirer said.

"Million?" Zigelman asked.

Kasirer confirmed the amount and said he had told the SEC he didn't have the
money. In the transcript, Kasirer then went on to say that he'd lied to the
SEC, and that, in fact he had the money but wanted to hide that fact.

"What is SEC?" Zigelman asked.

Kasirer explained, and Zigelman replied, "Yes, yes, but you don't have to
give it to them."

For the next three years, Kasirer recorded conversations with targets of the
government investigation, and, using government funds, conducted a dozen
monetary transactions with Zigelman, according to transcripts of
conversations conducted in English, Hebrew, Yiddish and Hungarian. The
government also tapped the phones of Zigelman and Weisz.



CASH OR CHARGE?

For Kasirer, there were two ways the operation worked: At first he
reportedly received his "donations" back in cash, and when he became
uncomfortable with the large cash amounts floating around, he set up an
Israeli account.

According to the transcripts, Kasirer's money was allegedly refunded to him
by various men, all now defendants in the case: Naiman, Zeivald, Friedman
and Lazar, all of whom have pleaded not guilty to the charges against them.

Among the transactions in the transcripts, for example, was one on Feb. 8,
2007. Kasirer FedEx-ed a check for $20,000 made out to Yeshiva Imrei Yosef
to Zigelman. On Feb. 15, 2007, Lazar delivered $18,600 to Kasirer's house.
On Feb. 22, 2007, Kasirer got a letter in the mail on a Yeshiva Imrei Yosef
Spinka letterhead thanking Kasirer for his $20,000 donation to a tax-exempt
organization, saying the "donation" was entirely tax deductible and Kasirer
had received no "goods" or "services" in exchange for the contribution.

The Spinka Yeshiva charged Kasirer up to 7.5 percent for laundering the
money, which was a cause for some dispute, according to the wiretaps.

On Dec. 16, 2005, Kasirer told Joseph Roth, an assistant manager at Bank
Mizrahi -- which is based in Israel but has a branch in Los Angeles -- to
set up a new account so he could move money internationally.

On Jan. 12, 2006, Tel Aviv lawyer Jacob Kantor -- the only one of those
named in the indictment who is still at large -- is reported in the
transcripts offering to Kasirer to create documents to incorporate a company
called Bedford Holdings & Investments, which would be "held in confidence by
the bank and can only be disclosed after a complicated procedure by the Bank
of Israel, if there is evidence that the monies resulted from criminal
activities, such as drugs -- tax matters are not an issue." Much like
Switzerland, Israel has laws that protect investors, and the country does
not investigate monetary origins, even on suspicion of tax fraud.

"So, we wanted to basically set everything up the same way as it was
before," Kasirer told Roth in the affidavit transcripts. Later in the
document, he tells Zigelman that Kantor set up a trust in Israel so that
nothing would be left in Kasirer's name in order to hide his money from the
SEC. Then he'd take a loan from the Los Angeles branch of an unnamed Israeli
bank, "so I can use the money here." Later, he says in the affidavit, he
would take the money back from Israel and repay the loan here.

Mizrahi Bank, which is never named in the affidavit, is under investigation
by the federal government, according to Assistant U.S. Attorney O'Brien.

"We believe the bank offers this thing as a product to clients in the
U.S. -- the bank pitches this as a money-laundering product. I believe there
are multiple agents involved," O'Brien said, including Kantor.

The government also believes that there are many people like Kasirer, "who
occupy the same role as he did in this conspiracy," O'Brien said.

But Kasirer was not the creator of this conspiracy, according to the
government. His father -- the recently deceased Jacob (Yankel) Kasirer who
founded the Bais Yaakov School for Girls on Beverly Boulevard in Los Angeles
and is known as a "stalwart" of the Jewish community -- was involved with
the scheme. According to the transcripts, when Kasirer was discussing his
distress over his earlier money-laundering penalty with Lazar, the diamond
dealer said, "It's not something you started."

Kasirer replied, "I was really not aware of what he did with my father."

In addition, in a taped conversation, the Spinka Rebbe told Kasirer he
wanted to meet with his father.

"RK's father was engaged in this prior to RK being involved in it," O'Brien
said in an interview. "We believe that this has origins much earlier than
that -- beyond living memory."




CRIME IS NOT SO BAD

"There are a million ways that religious institutions defraud the
government," said one Brooklyn accountant who asked that his name be
withheld. However, it's not just the Jews, he claimed, "churches do the same
thing." Churches and synagogues are exempt from filing tax returns -- 
although many do -- and the government usually does not audit unless it has
probable cause. As a result, this can make fraud easier.

In the last decade or so, a number of Chasidic institutions on the East
Coast have been charged with such crimes, including the 1997 case against
the Skverer Hasidim in Rockland County, N.Y., where four men were found
guilty of defrauding the government of millions of dollars in federal Pell
Grants. But in the Orthodox community, many defended them, despite the
crime, because the money was used to support needy yeshiva students.

"Nobody here owns a yacht," a resident reportedly said, and the feeling
then -- as with many such institutional fraud cases -- that if the money is
used to help the community and not line someone's pockets, it's not so bad.

That, in fact, is a pervasive attitude these days in Brooklyn, where the
Spinka case raised fewer eyebrows than in Los Angeles, because the attitude
is everyone does something. This kind of discussion has been a hot topic on
many Internet blogs that discuss the ultra-Orthodox community.

"The government are thieves, what gives them the right to take 40 percent to
50 percent of someone's income? Anyone who can save yiddishe gelt from going
down that toilet is doing a mitzvah," one contributor wrote on the
Vosizneias (Yiddish for "What Is News?") blog.

The blog comments, though, seem to be about evenly divided between two
camps: On one hand are those castigating the government or the bloggers
posting the news for spreading gossip; on the other are those demanding that
the community finally put a stop to criminal behavior.

One particularly poignant plea came from New York white-collar defense
attorney Joel Cohen, in an essay published in 2006 titled, "Jewish Felons:
The Problem of Criminality in Observant Communities." Cohen described
witnessing a disturbing rise in crime among Orthodox and Chasidic Jews.

"The problem in the observant community, however, is not merely occasional,
nor does it often make headlines. Daily, in metropolises around the country,
yarmulka-wearing criminal defendants appear before the bar of justice," he
wrote.

Some prisons -- especially in New York, Los Angeles and Miami -- have daily
minyans, visiting rabbis, kosher food, classes and Shabbat meals, Cohen
wrote. "The most common charge is fraud: against businessmen and
run-of-the-mill citizens alike, most frequently involving victims outside of
the Jewish community, against the government, against insurance carriers,
against banking institutions, health care fraud, money-laundering and
stock-swindling."

Cohen pleads with his fellow Orthodox Jews to denounce the criminal
activity:

"Only with the open denouncement of wrongdoing from within the particular
observant community can the community hope to demonstrate and protect the
Torah's commitment to honesty in one's interpersonal dealings as being at
least equal to, if not greater than, its commitment to technical observance
of mitzvoth," he wrote



DON'T BLAME THE MESSENGER

But the most talked-about aspect of the case -- both among bloggers and at
Shabbat tables on both coasts -- has been the involvement of Kasirer. From
the start, most here guessed accurately who he was -- an informant who
turned state's evidence to save his own skin -- but what they wanted to know
was what was he? Was he a moser -- an informer, who, according to
traditional Jewish law, must be killed for turning against a Jew and is
denied access to "the world to come."

The Talmud forbids a Jew to inform on another Jew to a secular government,
even if that Jew violated both secular and Jewish law.

Today, among poskim -- Orthodox rabbinic deciders -- there is a debate over
whether a Jew may turn in another Jew in a democratic state. Some rabbis say
that laws of moser do not hold in the United States because they were
established to protect Jews from corrupt and anti-Semitic governments that
would likely torture and give Jews worse treatment than other prisoners than
merited by Jewish law.

This is not the case today in a democracy, they say. "These rules apply only
to one who informs on another to bandits and so endangers that person's
money and life, as these bandits chase after a person's body and money, and
thus one may use deadly force to save oneself," it is written in the Aruch
Hashulchan, ("Laying the Table," a book about Jewish law written in the late
19th century).

But many insist that the laws of moser do apply today, and that it is
forbidden by Jewish law for one Jew to inform on another to any secular
government.

Rabbi Ezra Batzri in "Dinnai Mamonut" ("Laws of Money") says informing is
prohibited. "All rules of informing are applicable even currently .... Even
if they bring all matter to court, it is clear that, through interrogation
and the police, government can destroy people, and in many places they do,
in fact, destroy people."

Some rabbis say you cannot be a moser, even in America, except when the
person doing the questionable act may be a danger to others -- a child
molester, a rapist, a murderer. In those cases, it would be "permitted" to
inform the authorities, writes Rabbi Hershel Schacther, a top posek. Which
means that in the case of financial wrongdoings, a Jew is not allowed to
inform on another Jew.

When the Spinka case broke, the Rabbinical Council of California (RCC)
discussed the informant issue, RCC President Rabbi Meyer May said. But the
council decided to let other halachic authorities deal with the question.

"There is no way to explain how perfidious what RK did is. He violated the
spirit of Jewish law," May said. "Having said that, it doesn't justify what
was done on the other side [by the defendants]."

Although many were focusing on the moser and other justifications like
"everybody does it" and "we pay more taxes than everyone else," that is
beside the point, May said. The point, he continued, is to own up to any
wrongdoings. "Our business is the integrity [of the individual]," he said.
"Something which is wrong is wrong."

Still, others, like lawyer and blog commentator Cohen, argue that it is
precisely such concern about laws like that of moser -- which forbid a Jew
to turn in another Jew to authorities, and chilul Hashem, desecrating God's
name in public, which has created an atmosphere were people are more
concerned with protecting their own than following the laws of the U.S.
government.

"To ignore crime within our ranks does us a great disservice, both because
it weakens us as a community and because tolerating it suggests to the
outside world that Judaism does not promote a righteous moral compass,"
Cohen wrote.



BUSINESS AS USUAL

On Monday morning, Dec. 31, the streets of downtown Los Angeles were eerily
empty; nearly everyone had left town. But the Roybal Federal Courthouse was
open, and by 8:30 a.m. there were enough Chasidic men in the third-floor
corridor for a minyan: 11 -- not to mention a few clean-shaven men wearing
black yarmulkes -- all waiting for the morning's arraignment hearings to
begin.

Grand Spinka Rebbe Weisz didn't converse much with his gabbai Zigelman. The
men pored over Hebrew books -- either studying holy texts or reciting
psalms -- and intermittently conversed with the lawyers. It would be an hour
until the court would open and another until their own hearing would begin.

Everyone was anxious for the hearing to start -- not because of the upcoming
secular New Year, which the ultra-Orthodox do not celebrate -- but so that
they could return to their homes and to their lives in Brooklyn.

The seven men had been arrested and jailed on Dec. 19, a Wednesday, and most
were released before Shabbat.

Weisz and Zeligman had spent another Shabbat in Los Angeles, detained until
the arraignment. The Spinka Rebbe attended Rabbi Chaim Boruch Rubin's
synagogue in Hancock Park -- which itself is entangled in a legal battle
over land use -- and was given the honor of leading services. At this, a few
men walked out in protest.

"As a parent in the community and as a rabbi in the community, since there
were children in the room and since we have an obligation to teach our
children right and wrong," one person who left quietly said later. "I have
no problem [with the Spinka Rebbe] sitting in the front in his normal
[honored] seat," but the man who walked out said he would have preferred
"one stage less than normal" to show children "that it's not business as
usual."

When the court opened for the hearing, most of the defendants and their
supporters filed into the first row of the courtroom, except for the
clean-shaven Friedman, who sat in the back, a few seats away from Zeivald,
who was accompanied by an Israeli translator.

A Yiddish translator sat next to the Spinka Rebbe, and only Roth, the
Israeli banker, came from the entrance behind a glass partition, clad in
green prison outfit. He was the only one not yet released on bail, at the
time, because the government said he was believed to pose a flight risk.
Roth remains in custody.

Finally, their turn arrived. The seven filed up front, each with his
separate lawyers. (Famed lawyer Donald Etra, who was originally retained to
defend Weisz, was by then no longer on the case). They each declined to have
the charges read to them.

"How do you plead?" Magistrate Judge Alicia G. Rosenberg asked.

One by one, Weisz, Zigelman, Naiman, Zievald, Friedman, Lazar and Roth each
said: "Not guilty."

By 11 a.m., they filed out of the courtroom.

By Shabbat, Jan. 4, the Grand Spinka Rebbe was back in Boro Park to lead his
congregation. He's free on $2 million bail, allowed to travel for work in
New York and New Jersey, and of course, to California, where he and
Zigelman, among others, await trial.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinka_financial_controversy

This is similar to the TAX FRAUD involving Ken McVay & B'nai Brith!!



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Yes indeed , I am misbegotten  Frank Arthur - sometimes alias Grosvenor -  
also alias Gay Ken McVay, and even alias Yitzhak Goldstein.

And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights:
FRANK H ARTHUR 
378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE 
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(770) 739-6508 

Frank Arthur sometimes posts via Bellsouth Internet Group
The fraud Grosvenor [me]  uses anonymous remailers.
Grosvomit often posts to alt.homosexual- my need!
I don't use my degenerate father's name because I am ashamed of 
him so I steal other's names, from gravestones, or internet.

I am  the filthy  fraud  who changes names every few minutes,
because I am truly certifiably insane.

I am so insane I claim that all my critics are a "grosvenor"!
Now, I even claim that some of the "grosvenors" are now "mirelles"

Frank Arthur  [me]  sometimes I post using  Bellsouth Internet Group, 
except when I post using remailers, anonymously,  to  confuse people.

I am the fraud Grosvenor  [again me] and I often use anonymous remailers.
Sometimes as Grosvenor , or Frank Arthur, or Ken McVay, or Yitzhak Goldstein.
I often post to alt.homosexual - just to satisfy my need!

The genuine Grosvenor has not posted for years, so I stole his name to 
annoy him, and also readers!

Many people believe that I am really  gay Ken McVay the disgusting 
pervert fag from Nanaimo Canada doing all the posting, now that my
ZYD  benefactors  stopped financing all the BS and my one person 
web business.

All entries below collated from various sources and are
public domain.


On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:32:43 GMT, Venceremos2
 wrote:
On Thu, 24 May 2007 12:28:25 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

Like Fraud? DickWarren is also known as Edmond Grosvomit the fraud who 
changes names every 5 minutes.
Quick send him money IF you are stupid!

Frank Arthur, alias Grosvenor ,[me]  is just another common thief. 
Some are pickpockets.
Some steal cars. Some steal groceries. 
This human turd steals names.

Here are some of his names-
Arthur Franks,Ernst Zundholz,Yitzak Goldstein,KenOyVeigh,
Frank Arthur,Ariadne,Boris,Bruno,DesiCohen,Flavia13,
Firestone@hemisphere,GeorgesFirestein,HansMueller,
GayMcvay,PanPiotr,RiainBartoski,VictorArcurius,
KenMcvaySOBC Ad infinitum.
All from Frank Arthur alias Edmond Grosvomit the fraud
There is no real person named Grosvomit, just me.

On Wed, 02 May 2007 17:02:32 GMT, KenOyVeigh
 wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:10:00 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

>Edmond Grosvomit still reeks of fraudulent names-Arthur Franks today?
>Then a continuous list of faked names again.
>Trust that idiot?

>From all the postings from Frank Arthur, with all the aliases, it seems that
>you must be the Grosvomit, nicht wahr?

On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:45:29 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

The poster using Frank Arthur is a fraud.[me]

I am the legitimate Frank Arthur and I did not post to this newsgroup.

I am  either insane, or just another ZYD liar, since I have constantly
been posting to this, and other newsgroups!!

The pervert who used my name is a person of no honor.
He is known as Grosvomit from Canada

There have never been any postings by anyone named Grosvomit, 
just piles of articles by me, Frank Arthur.

The way to know if I am the legitimate Frank Arthur it will show on the gray 
tab:

Organization: BellSouth Internet Group

There are no gray tabs on newsgroup articles, which proves I am a lunatic


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Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com, 
or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com,
or KenMcVay@vex.net
Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, 
homosexuals and the like.

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From: "Gnostic" 
Subject: ZYD/Jew money laundering ring busted, 
stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to Israel 
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:58:29 -0500

U.S. Attorney General's Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District
Court for the Central District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva and
four other Spinka organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion
dollar tax fraud and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to
Los Angeles to Israel and elsewhere.

http://www.jewishjournal.com/home/preview.php?id=18767

2008-01-11

The Spinka money trail -- and the informant who brought them down

By Amy Klein, Religion Editor

Spinka defendants and supporters as they cross the street to the federal
courthouse in downtown Los Angeles on Dec. 31, 2007. Courthouse photos by
Dan Kacvinski

The first snow flutters hesitantly in Brooklyn. Men wearing fur streimel
hats and women wearing sheitls walk briskly past the corner of 15th Avenue
and 58th Street in Boro Park as if nothing extraordinary has happened here.

And why not? The kosher shops of this self-contained ultra-Orthodox
neighborhood -- practically a city onto itself -- are still a few blocks
down, and here on this bleak corner, there are only three orange school
buses parked in front of a four-story, dark-red brick building, which sits
on a residential street, where tall, narrow houses nearly overlap. The
structure (photo below) is rather nondescript and unimposing -- garbage bags
are piled haphazardly by a front gate, bars protect the windows, young boys
can be heard chanting from behind the locked door and a white sign with sky
blue Hebrew lettering reads: "Yeshiva Imrei Yosef Spinka."


A buzzer sounds. The door opens. No one asks who rang the bell. Up the four
steps, a reception window sits empty. Hazy yellow fluorescent lights
illuminate the narrow hallways adorned with graying yellow paint and frayed
industrial carpeting. If there are millions -- or even thousands -- of
dollars going to the Spinka yeshiva, it certainly doesn't seem like it's
coming here.

This despite the fact that on Dec. 19, 2007, the U.S. Attorney General's
Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District Court for the Central
District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva and four other Spinka
organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion dollar tax fraud
and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to
Israel and elsewhere.

Two of those indicted are Rabbi Naftali Tzi Weisz, 59, the Grand Rabbi of
Spinka, a Brooklyn-based Chasidic sect, whose yeshiva is in this
undistinguished building, and his gabbai (assistant), Moshe Zigelman, 60.

Weisz is just one of a number of Grand Rebbes of Spinka, a Chasidic sect
that originated in Romania in the 19th century. He is the
great-great-grandson of the founding rabbi, and one of about a dozen Grand
Spinka Rebbes who live in Boro Park or Williamsburg, in Brooklyn, or Bnei
Brak and Jerusalem in Israel.

Four Los Angeles men were among those charged with taking part in the
scheme: Yaacov (Yankel) Zeivald, 43, a self-described scribe (sofer) from
Valley Village (photo, right); Yosef Nachum Naiman, 55, the owner of Shatz
Et Naiman, d.b.a. Jerusalem Tours; Alan Jay Friedman, 43, a businessman from
Pico-Robertson who sits on the board of the Orthodox Union; and Moshe Lazar,
60, owner of Lazar Diamonds, a Los Angeles jewelry company.

Although many of the details of the case have not yet been revealed -- a
trial date is set for Feb. 12, but the defendants' lawyers say it will be
postponed at least a year -- what is emerging from the indictment, the
search warrant and other documents of public record is a complex
money-laundering scheme. According to the documents, people donated money to
the Spinka institutions but then received 80 percent to 95 percent of their
donations back, yet wrote off the full amount on their taxes.

These charges are just the beginning of a much larger case, Daniel J.
O'Brien, an assistant U.S. attorney in the major frauds section, based in
Los Angeles, said in an interview with The Journal.

"There were many other people that contributed in this fashion that would be
the subject of government investigations," O'Brien said.

While O'Brien said he has documentation that the Spinka institutions took in
about $750,000 through the scheme -- then writing receipts for $8.7
million -- in 2007 alone, the assistant U.S. attorney believes the fraud has
been going on for decades: "I believe this goes on beyond living memory,"
possibly for generations.

This is certainly not the first time an ultra-Orthodox sect has been accused
of attempting to break the laws of the secular government -- aramos, or
schemes, were perpetrated over the centuries in the shtetls of Europe. In
the last decade, arrests have occurred in religious communities in Brooklyn,
Lakewood, N.J., and upstate New York.

However, this particular case has shocked Los Angeles' ultra-Orthodox
community, not only because Los Angeles had largely been exempt from such
cases in the past, but also because some of the city's prominent members
have been charged as being at the center of the scheme.

As a result, the case has sparked a fierce debate about the type of behavior
that is acceptable for observant people and what type of religious community
Los Angeles would like to be. But there's also debate about the laws of a
moser, an informant, because one person who was not charged was the primary
source of information for the federal case -- though he allegedly started
out as one of the perpetrators.



THE BEGINNING

On June 29, 2004, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission filed civil
fraud charges against Robert A. Kasirer and four executives of Heritage
Healthcare of America, which sold $131 million in bonds to 1,800 investors
in 36 states from 1996-1999, claiming that the money would be used to fund
10 health care facilities. In October of that year, Kasirer approached the
federal government and "expressed a desire to plead guilty to criminal
charges arising out of the investigation and agreed to reveal other criminal
conduct he and others had committed, with a view that any sentence he might
receive would be reduced," according to an affidavit for a search warrant
submitted by FBI Special Agent Ryan Heaton on Dec. 18, 2007.

Although the search warrant affidavit identifies Kasirer only as
"confidential witness (CW-1)" and the recent grand jury indictment refers to
a witness named only as RK, the companies in the affidavit attributed to
CW-1 and RK are run by Kasirer, and several members of the Los Angeles
community, who asked for confidentiality, have confirmed his involvement.

In 2004, under federal surveillance, the informant identified in the
transcript as CW-1 resumed activities he admitted to having conducted with
the Spinka since 1990, in which "he caused several million dollars in
contributions to be mailed to the tax-exempt organizations operating within
the umbrella of Spinka," he is quoted in federal documents as having told
the FBI.

As part of the scam, Weisz and Zigelman allegedly would return 80 to 95
percent of Kasirer's contributions.

On Oct. 31, 2007, the SEC issued a final judgment against Kasirer, ordering
him to pay $4,991,434.

"Kasirer consented to the entry of the final judgment without admitting or
denying the allegations contained in the commission's case," according to
the SEC enforcement proceedings.

In the interim, according to the transcripts, Kasirer began to wear a device
to record his interactions for the government. On Dec. 20, 2004, he told
Zigelman, the Spinka rebbe's gabbai, that he never intended to pay the SEC.

According to the wiretapped transcripts, Kasirer told Zigelman: "The SEC
investigation is done. But they want me to pay them a lot of money."

"How much?" Zigelman asked.

"Possibly one, one and a half," Kasirer said.

"Million?" Zigelman asked.

Kasirer confirmed the amount and said he had told the SEC he didn't have the
money. In the transcript, Kasirer then went on to say that he'd lied to the
SEC, and that, in fact he had the money but wanted to hide that fact.

"What is SEC?" Zigelman asked.

Kasirer explained, and Zigelman replied, "Yes, yes, but you don't have to
give it to them."

For the next three years, Kasirer recorded conversations with targets of the
government investigation, and, using government funds, conducted a dozen
monetary transactions with Zigelman, according to transcripts of
conversations conducted in English, Hebrew, Yiddish and Hungarian. The
government also tapped the phones of Zigelman and Weisz.



CASH OR CHARGE?

For Kasirer, there were two ways the operation worked: At first he
reportedly received his "donations" back in cash, and when he became
uncomfortable with the large cash amounts floating around, he set up an
Israeli account.

According to the transcripts, Kasirer's money was allegedly refunded to him
by various men, all now defendants in the case: Naiman, Zeivald, Friedman
and Lazar, all of whom have pleaded not guilty to the charges against them.

Among the transactions in the transcripts, for example, was one on Feb. 8,
2007. Kasirer FedEx-ed a check for $20,000 made out to Yeshiva Imrei Yosef
to Zigelman. On Feb. 15, 2007, Lazar delivered $18,600 to Kasirer's house.
On Feb. 22, 2007, Kasirer got a letter in the mail on a Yeshiva Imrei Yosef
Spinka letterhead thanking Kasirer for his $20,000 donation to a tax-exempt
organization, saying the "donation" was entirely tax deductible and Kasirer
had received no "goods" or "services" in exchange for the contribution.

The Spinka Yeshiva charged Kasirer up to 7.5 percent for laundering the
money, which was a cause for some dispute, according to the wiretaps.

On Dec. 16, 2005, Kasirer told Joseph Roth, an assistant manager at Bank
Mizrahi -- which is based in Israel but has a branch in Los Angeles -- to
set up a new account so he could move money internationally.

On Jan. 12, 2006, Tel Aviv lawyer Jacob Kantor -- the only one of those
named in the indictment who is still at large -- is reported in the
transcripts offering to Kasirer to create documents to incorporate a company
called Bedford Holdings & Investments, which would be "held in confidence by
the bank and can only be disclosed after a complicated procedure by the Bank
of Israel, if there is evidence that the monies resulted from criminal
activities, such as drugs -- tax matters are not an issue." Much like
Switzerland, Israel has laws that protect investors, and the country does
not investigate monetary origins, even on suspicion of tax fraud.

"So, we wanted to basically set everything up the same way as it was
before," Kasirer told Roth in the affidavit transcripts. Later in the
document, he tells Zigelman that Kantor set up a trust in Israel so that
nothing would be left in Kasirer's name in order to hide his money from the
SEC. Then he'd take a loan from the Los Angeles branch of an unnamed Israeli
bank, "so I can use the money here." Later, he says in the affidavit, he
would take the money back from Israel and repay the loan here.

Mizrahi Bank, which is never named in the affidavit, is under investigation
by the federal government, according to Assistant U.S. Attorney O'Brien.

"We believe the bank offers this thing as a product to clients in the
U.S. -- the bank pitches this as a money-laundering product. I believe there
are multiple agents involved," O'Brien said, including Kantor.

The government also believes that there are many people like Kasirer, "who
occupy the same role as he did in this conspiracy," O'Brien said.

But Kasirer was not the creator of this conspiracy, according to the
government. His father -- the recently deceased Jacob (Yankel) Kasirer who
founded the Bais Yaakov School for Girls on Beverly Boulevard in Los Angeles
and is known as a "stalwart" of the Jewish community -- was involved with
the scheme. According to the transcripts, when Kasirer was discussing his
distress over his earlier money-laundering penalty with Lazar, the diamond
dealer said, "It's not something you started."

Kasirer replied, "I was really not aware of what he did with my father."

In addition, in a taped conversation, the Spinka Rebbe told Kasirer he
wanted to meet with his father.

"RK's father was engaged in this prior to RK being involved in it," O'Brien
said in an interview. "We believe that this has origins much earlier than
that -- beyond living memory."




CRIME IS NOT SO BAD

"There are a million ways that religious institutions defraud the
government," said one Brooklyn accountant who asked that his name be
withheld. However, it's not just the Jews, he claimed, "churches do the same
thing." Churches and synagogues are exempt from filing tax returns -- 
although many do -- and the government usually does not audit unless it has
probable cause. As a result, this can make fraud easier.

In the last decade or so, a number of Chasidic institutions on the East
Coast have been charged with such crimes, including the 1997 case against
the Skverer Hasidim in Rockland County, N.Y., where four men were found
guilty of defrauding the government of millions of dollars in federal Pell
Grants. But in the Orthodox community, many defended them, despite the
crime, because the money was used to support needy yeshiva students.

"Nobody here owns a yacht," a resident reportedly said, and the feeling
then -- as with many such institutional fraud cases -- that if the money is
used to help the community and not line someone's pockets, it's not so bad.

That, in fact, is a pervasive attitude these days in Brooklyn, where the
Spinka case raised fewer eyebrows than in Los Angeles, because the attitude
is everyone does something. This kind of discussion has been a hot topic on
many Internet blogs that discuss the ultra-Orthodox community.

"The government are thieves, what gives them the right to take 40 percent to
50 percent of someone's income? Anyone who can save yiddishe gelt from going
down that toilet is doing a mitzvah," one contributor wrote on the
Vosizneias (Yiddish for "What Is News?") blog.

The blog comments, though, seem to be about evenly divided between two
camps: On one hand are those castigating the government or the bloggers
posting the news for spreading gossip; on the other are those demanding that
the community finally put a stop to criminal behavior.

One particularly poignant plea came from New York white-collar defense
attorney Joel Cohen, in an essay published in 2006 titled, "Jewish Felons:
The Problem of Criminality in Observant Communities." Cohen described
witnessing a disturbing rise in crime among Orthodox and Chasidic Jews.

"The problem in the observant community, however, is not merely occasional,
nor does it often make headlines. Daily, in metropolises around the country,
yarmulka-wearing criminal defendants appear before the bar of justice," he
wrote.

Some prisons -- especially in New York, Los Angeles and Miami -- have daily
minyans, visiting rabbis, kosher food, classes and Shabbat meals, Cohen
wrote. "The most common charge is fraud: against businessmen and
run-of-the-mill citizens alike, most frequently involving victims outside of
the Jewish community, against the government, against insurance carriers,
against banking institutions, health care fraud, money-laundering and
stock-swindling."

Cohen pleads with his fellow Orthodox Jews to denounce the criminal
activity:

"Only with the open denouncement of wrongdoing from within the particular
observant community can the community hope to demonstrate and protect the
Torah's commitment to honesty in one's interpersonal dealings as being at
least equal to, if not greater than, its commitment to technical observance
of mitzvoth," he wrote



DON'T BLAME THE MESSENGER

But the most talked-about aspect of the case -- both among bloggers and at
Shabbat tables on both coasts -- has been the involvement of Kasirer. From
the start, most here guessed accurately who he was -- an informant who
turned state's evidence to save his own skin -- but what they wanted to know
was what was he? Was he a moser -- an informer, who, according to
traditional Jewish law, must be killed for turning against a Jew and is
denied access to "the world to come."

The Talmud forbids a Jew to inform on another Jew to a secular government,
even if that Jew violated both secular and Jewish law.

Today, among poskim -- Orthodox rabbinic deciders -- there is a debate over
whether a Jew may turn in another Jew in a democratic state. Some rabbis say
that laws of moser do not hold in the United States because they were
established to protect Jews from corrupt and anti-Semitic governments that
would likely torture and give Jews worse treatment than other prisoners than
merited by Jewish law.

This is not the case today in a democracy, they say. "These rules apply only
to one who informs on another to bandits and so endangers that person's
money and life, as these bandits chase after a person's body and money, and
thus one may use deadly force to save oneself," it is written in the Aruch
Hashulchan, ("Laying the Table," a book about Jewish law written in the late
19th century).

But many insist that the laws of moser do apply today, and that it is
forbidden by Jewish law for one Jew to inform on another to any secular
government.

Rabbi Ezra Batzri in "Dinnai Mamonut" ("Laws of Money") says informing is
prohibited. "All rules of informing are applicable even currently .... Even
if they bring all matter to court, it is clear that, through interrogation
and the police, government can destroy people, and in many places they do,
in fact, destroy people."

Some rabbis say you cannot be a moser, even in America, except when the
person doing the questionable act may be a danger to others -- a child
molester, a rapist, a murderer. In those cases, it would be "permitted" to
inform the authorities, writes Rabbi Hershel Schacther, a top posek. Which
means that in the case of financial wrongdoings, a Jew is not allowed to
inform on another Jew.

When the Spinka case broke, the Rabbinical Council of California (RCC)
discussed the informant issue, RCC President Rabbi Meyer May said. But the
council decided to let other halachic authorities deal with the question.

"There is no way to explain how perfidious what RK did is. He violated the
spirit of Jewish law," May said. "Having said that, it doesn't justify what
was done on the other side [by the defendants]."

Although many were focusing on the moser and other justifications like
"everybody does it" and "we pay more taxes than everyone else," that is
beside the point, May said. The point, he continued, is to own up to any
wrongdoings. "Our business is the integrity [of the individual]," he said.
"Something which is wrong is wrong."

Still, others, like lawyer and blog commentator Cohen, argue that it is
precisely such concern about laws like that of moser -- which forbid a Jew
to turn in another Jew to authorities, and chilul Hashem, desecrating God's
name in public, which has created an atmosphere were people are more
concerned with protecting their own than following the laws of the U.S.
government.

"To ignore crime within our ranks does us a great disservice, both because
it weakens us as a community and because tolerating it suggests to the
outside world that Judaism does not promote a righteous moral compass,"
Cohen wrote.



BUSINESS AS USUAL

On Monday morning, Dec. 31, the streets of downtown Los Angeles were eerily
empty; nearly everyone had left town. But the Roybal Federal Courthouse was
open, and by 8:30 a.m. there were enough Chasidic men in the third-floor
corridor for a minyan: 11 -- not to mention a few clean-shaven men wearing
black yarmulkes -- all waiting for the morning's arraignment hearings to
begin.

Grand Spinka Rebbe Weisz didn't converse much with his gabbai Zigelman. The
men pored over Hebrew books -- either studying holy texts or reciting
psalms -- and intermittently conversed with the lawyers. It would be an hour
until the court would open and another until their own hearing would begin.

Everyone was anxious for the hearing to start -- not because of the upcoming
secular New Year, which the ultra-Orthodox do not celebrate -- but so that
they could return to their homes and to their lives in Brooklyn.

The seven men had been arrested and jailed on Dec. 19, a Wednesday, and most
were released before Shabbat.

Weisz and Zeligman had spent another Shabbat in Los Angeles, detained until
the arraignment. The Spinka Rebbe attended Rabbi Chaim Boruch Rubin's
synagogue in Hancock Park -- which itself is entangled in a legal battle
over land use -- and was given the honor of leading services. At this, a few
men walked out in protest.

"As a parent in the community and as a rabbi in the community, since there
were children in the room and since we have an obligation to teach our
children right and wrong," one person who left quietly said later. "I have
no problem [with the Spinka Rebbe] sitting in the front in his normal
[honored] seat," but the man who walked out said he would have preferred
"one stage less than normal" to show children "that it's not business as
usual."

When the court opened for the hearing, most of the defendants and their
supporters filed into the first row of the courtroom, except for the
clean-shaven Friedman, who sat in the back, a few seats away from Zeivald,
who was accompanied by an Israeli translator.

A Yiddish translator sat next to the Spinka Rebbe, and only Roth, the
Israeli banker, came from the entrance behind a glass partition, clad in
green prison outfit. He was the only one not yet released on bail, at the
time, because the government said he was believed to pose a flight risk.
Roth remains in custody.

Finally, their turn arrived. The seven filed up front, each with his
separate lawyers. (Famed lawyer Donald Etra, who was originally retained to
defend Weisz, was by then no longer on the case). They each declined to have
the charges read to them.

"How do you plead?" Magistrate Judge Alicia G. Rosenberg asked.

One by one, Weisz, Zigelman, Naiman, Zievald, Friedman, Lazar and Roth each
said: "Not guilty."

By 11 a.m., they filed out of the courtroom.

By Shabbat, Jan. 4, the Grand Spinka Rebbe was back in Boro Park to lead his
congregation. He's free on $2 million bail, allowed to travel for work in
New York and New Jersey, and of course, to California, where he and
Zigelman, among others, await trial.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinka_financial_controversy

This is similar to the TAX FRAUD involving Ken McVay & B'nai Brith!!




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Yes folks , I am the real  Cranky Frank Arthur - sometimes alias Grosvenor -
also alias Gay Ken McVay, and even alias Yitzhak Goldstein.

I am  the filthy  fraud  who changes names every few minutes,
because I am truly certifiably insane.

I am so insane I claim that all my critics are a "grosvenor"!
Now, I even claim that some of the "grosvenors" are now "mirelles"

Frank Arthur  [me]  sometimes I post using  Bellsouth Internet Group, 
except when I post using remailers, anonymously,  to  confuse people.

I am the fraud Grosvenor  [again me] and I often use anonymous remailers.
Sometimes as Grosvenor , or Frank Arthur, or Ken McVay, or Yitzhak Goldstein.
I often post to alt.homosexual - just to satisfy my need!

The genuine Grosvenor has not posted for years, so I stole his name to 
annoy him, and also readers!

Many people believe that I am really  gay Ken McVay the disgusting 
pervert fag from Nanaimo Canada doing all the posting, now that my
ZYD  benefactors  stopped financing all the BS and my one person 
web business.

All entries below collated from various sources and are
public domain.

And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights:
FRANK H ARTHUR 
378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE 
ATLANTA, GA 30315 
(770) 739-6508 


On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:32:43 GMT, Venceremos2
 wrote:
On Thu, 24 May 2007 12:28:25 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

Like Fraud? DickWarren is also known as Edmond Grosvomit the fraud who 
changes names every 5 minutes.
Quick send him money IF you are stupid!

Frank Arthur, alias Grosvenor ,[me]  is just another common thief. 
Some are pickpockets.
Some steal cars. Some steal groceries. 
This human turd steals names.

Here are some of his names-
Arthur Franks,Ernst Zundholz,Yitzak Goldstein,KenOyVeigh,
Frank Arthur,Ariadne,Boris,Bruno,DesiCohen,Flavia13,
Firestone@hemisphere,GeorgesFirestein,HansMueller,
GayMcvay,PanPiotr,RiainBartoski,VictorArcurius,
KenMcvaySOBC Ad infinitum.
All from Frank Arthur alias Edmond Grosvomit the fraud
There is no real person named Grosvomit, just me.

On Wed, 02 May 2007 17:02:32 GMT, KenOyVeigh
 wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:10:00 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

>Edmond Grosvomit still reeks of fraudulent names-Arthur Franks today?
>Then a continuous list of faked names again.
>Trust that idiot?

>From all the postings from Frank Arthur, with all the aliases, it seems that
>you must be the Grosvomit, nicht wahr?

On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:45:29 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

The poster using Frank Arthur is a fraud.[me]

I am the legitimate Frank Arthur and I did not post to this newsgroup.

I am  either insane, or just another ZYD liar, since I have constantly
been posting to this, and other newsgroups!!

The pervert who used my name is a person of no honor.
He is known as Grosvomit from Canada

There have never been any postings by anyone named Grosvomit, 
just piles of articles by me, Frank Arthur.

The way to know if I am the legitimate Frank Arthur it will show on the gray 
tab:

Organization: BellSouth Internet Group

There are no gray tabs on newsgroup articles, which proves I am a lunatic


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website 
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION 
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - 
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the 
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com, 
or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com,
or KenMcVay@vex.net
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Canadian Jew News have a half page headline story in the issue for
March 6 2008, detailing the criminal conviction of Winnipeg lawyer
Gary Dolovich for possessing and distributing KIDDIE PORNOGRAPHY!

Dolovich, an alleged observant ZYD, was arrested in 2006 and then
charged with 17 charges for distributing child pornography over
the internet.

Sentencing will be this spring, and he is expected to get a heavy
jail term, in accord with his criminality.

Police in Winnipeg had been alerted to Dolovich by a national police
organisation involved in prosecuting kiddie porn distributors.

This case is reminiscent of the Cantor Stuart Friedman case from
Halifax, where Friedman was distributing kiddie porn from the synagogue!!
Instead of jail, he was allowed to flee to Boston, USA, where he
supposedly assisted the FBI by turning informant on his fellow perverts.


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case -
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
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    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com,
or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com,
or KenMcVay@vex.net

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Yes indeed , I am indeed  Frank Arthur - sometimes alias Grosvenor -  
also alias Gay Ken McVay, and even alias Yitzhak Goldstein.

And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights:
FRANK H ARTHUR 
378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE 
ATLANTA, GA 30315 
(770) 739-6508 


I am  the filthy  fraud  who changes names every few minutes,
because I am truly certifiably insane.

I am so insane I claim that all my critics are a "grosvenor"!
Now, I even claim that some of the "grosvenors" are now "mirelles"

Frank Arthur  [me]  sometimes I post using  Bellsouth Internet Group, 
except when I post using remailers, anonymously,  to  confuse people.

I am the fraud Grosvenor  [again me] and I often use anonymous remailers.
Sometimes as Grosvenor , or Frank Arthur, or Ken McVay, or Yitzhak Goldstein.
I often post to alt.homosexual - just to satisfy my need!

The genuine Grosvenor has not posted for years, so I stole his name to 
annoy him, and also readers!

Many people believe that I am really  gay Ken McVay the disgusting 
pervert fag from Nanaimo Canada doing all the posting, now that my
ZYD  benefactors  stopped financing all the BS and my one person 
web business.

All entries below collated from various sources and are
public domain.


On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:32:43 GMT, Venceremos2
 wrote:
On Thu, 24 May 2007 12:28:25 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

Like Fraud? DickWarren is also known as Edmond Grosvomit the fraud who 
changes names every 5 minutes.
Quick send him money IF you are stupid!

Frank Arthur, alias Grosvenor ,[me]  is just another common thief. 
Some are pickpockets.
Some steal cars. Some steal groceries. 
This human turd steals names.

Here are some of his names-
Arthur Franks,Ernst Zundholz,Yitzak Goldstein,KenOyVeigh,
Frank Arthur,Ariadne,Boris,Bruno,DesiCohen,Flavia13,
Firestone@hemisphere,GeorgesFirestein,HansMueller,
GayMcvay,PanPiotr,RiainBartoski,VictorArcurius,
KenMcvaySOBC Ad infinitum.
All from Frank Arthur alias Edmond Grosvomit the fraud
There is no real person named Grosvomit, just me.

On Wed, 02 May 2007 17:02:32 GMT, KenOyVeigh
 wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:10:00 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

>Edmond Grosvomit still reeks of fraudulent names-Arthur Franks today?
>Then a continuous list of faked names again.
>Trust that idiot?

>From all the postings from Frank Arthur, with all the aliases, it seems that
>you must be the Grosvomit, nicht wahr?

On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:45:29 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

The poster using Frank Arthur is a fraud.[me]

I am the legitimate Frank Arthur and I did not post to this newsgroup.

I am  either insane, or just another ZYD liar, since I have constantly
been posting to this, and other newsgroups!!

The pervert who used my name is a person of no honor.
He is known as Grosvomit from Canada

There have never been any postings by anyone named Grosvomit, 
just piles of articles by me, Frank Arthur.

The way to know if I am the legitimate Frank Arthur it will show on the gray 
tab:

Organization: BellSouth Internet Group

There are no gray tabs on newsgroup articles, which proves I am a lunatic


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website 
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION 
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - 
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the 
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


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or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com,
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From: "Gnostic" 
Subject: ZYD/Jew money laundering ring busted,
stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to Israel
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:58:29 -0500

U.S. Attorney General's Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District
Court for the Central District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva 
and
four other Spinka organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion
dollar tax fraud and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to
Los Angeles to Israel and elsewhere.

http://www.jewishjournal.com/home/preview.php?id=18767

2008-01-11

The Spinka money trail -- and the informant who brought them down

By Amy Klein, Religion Editor

Spinka defendants and supporters as they cross the street to the federal
courthouse in downtown Los Angeles on Dec. 31, 2007. Courthouse photos by
Dan Kacvinski

The first snow flutters hesitantly in Brooklyn. Men wearing fur streimel
hats and women wearing sheitls walk briskly past the corner of 15th Avenue
and 58th Street in Boro Park as if nothing extraordinary has happened here.

And why not? The kosher shops of this self-contained ultra-Orthodox
neighborhood -- practically a city onto itself -- are still a few blocks
down, and here on this bleak corner, there are only three orange school
buses parked in front of a four-story, dark-red brick building, which sits
on a residential street, where tall, narrow houses nearly overlap. The
structure (photo below) is rather nondescript and unimposing -- garbage 
bags
are piled haphazardly by a front gate, bars protect the windows, young boys
can be heard chanting from behind the locked door and a white sign with sky
blue Hebrew lettering reads: "Yeshiva Imrei Yosef Spinka."


A buzzer sounds. The door opens. No one asks who rang the bell. Up the four
steps, a reception window sits empty. Hazy yellow fluorescent lights
illuminate the narrow hallways adorned with graying yellow paint and frayed
industrial carpeting. If there are millions -- or even thousands -- of
dollars going to the Spinka yeshiva, it certainly doesn't seem like it's
coming here.

This despite the fact that on Dec. 19, 2007, the U.S. Attorney General's
Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District Court for the Central
District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva and four other Spinka
organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion dollar tax fraud
and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to
Israel and elsewhere.

Two of those indicted are Rabbi Naftali Tzi Weisz, 59, the Grand Rabbi of
Spinka, a Brooklyn-based Chasidic sect, whose yeshiva is in this
undistinguished building, and his gabbai (assistant), Moshe Zigelman, 60.

Weisz is just one of a number of Grand Rebbes of Spinka, a Chasidic sect
that originated in Romania in the 19th century. He is the
great-great-grandson of the founding rabbi, and one of about a dozen Grand
Spinka Rebbes who live in Boro Park or Williamsburg, in Brooklyn, or Bnei
Brak and Jerusalem in Israel.

Four Los Angeles men were among those charged with taking part in the
scheme: Yaacov (Yankel) Zeivald, 43, a self-described scribe (sofer) from
Valley Village (photo, right); Yosef Nachum Naiman, 55, the owner of Shatz
Et Naiman, d.b.a. Jerusalem Tours; Alan Jay Friedman, 43, a businessman 
from
Pico-Robertson who sits on the board of the Orthodox Union; and Moshe 
Lazar,
60, owner of Lazar Diamonds, a Los Angeles jewelry company.

Although many of the details of the case have not yet been revealed -- a
trial date is set for Feb. 12, but the defendants' lawyers say it will be
postponed at least a year -- what is emerging from the indictment, the
search warrant and other documents of public record is a complex
money-laundering scheme. According to the documents, people donated money 
to
the Spinka institutions but then received 80 percent to 95 percent of their
donations back, yet wrote off the full amount on their taxes.

These charges are just the beginning of a much larger case, Daniel J.
O'Brien, an assistant U.S. attorney in the major frauds section, based in
Los Angeles, said in an interview with The Journal.

"There were many other people that contributed in this fashion that would 
be
the subject of government investigations," O'Brien said.

While O'Brien said he has documentation that the Spinka institutions took 
in
about $750,000 through the scheme -- then writing receipts for $8.7
million -- in 2007 alone, the assistant U.S. attorney believes the fraud 
has
been going on for decades: "I believe this goes on beyond living memory,"
possibly for generations.

This is certainly not the first time an ultra-Orthodox sect has been 
accused
of attempting to break the laws of the secular government -- aramos, or
schemes, were perpetrated over the centuries in the shtetls of Europe. In
the last decade, arrests have occurred in religious communities in 
Brooklyn,
Lakewood, N.J., and upstate New York.

However, this particular case has shocked Los Angeles' ultra-Orthodox
community, not only because Los Angeles had largely been exempt from such
cases in the past, but also because some of the city's prominent members
have been charged as being at the center of the scheme.

As a result, the case has sparked a fierce debate about the type of 
behavior
that is acceptable for observant people and what type of religious 
community
Los Angeles would like to be. But there's also debate about the laws of a
moser, an informant, because one person who was not charged was the primary
source of information for the federal case -- though he allegedly started
out as one of the perpetrators.



THE BEGINNING

On June 29, 2004, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission filed civil
fraud charges against Robert A. Kasirer and four executives of Heritage
Healthcare of America, which sold $131 million in bonds to 1,800 investors
in 36 states from 1996-1999, claiming that the money would be used to fund
10 health care facilities. In October of that year, Kasirer approached the
federal government and "expressed a desire to plead guilty to criminal
charges arising out of the investigation and agreed to reveal other 
criminal
conduct he and others had committed, with a view that any sentence he might
receive would be reduced," according to an affidavit for a search warrant
submitted by FBI Special Agent Ryan Heaton on Dec. 18, 2007.

Although the search warrant affidavit identifies Kasirer only as
"confidential witness (CW-1)" and the recent grand jury indictment refers 
to
a witness named only as RK, the companies in the affidavit attributed to
CW-1 and RK are run by Kasirer, and several members of the Los Angeles
community, who asked for confidentiality, have confirmed his involvement.

In 2004, under federal surveillance, the informant identified in the
transcript as CW-1 resumed activities he admitted to having conducted with
the Spinka since 1990, in which "he caused several million dollars in
contributions to be mailed to the tax-exempt organizations operating within
the umbrella of Spinka," he is quoted in federal documents as having told
the FBI.

As part of the scam, Weisz and Zigelman allegedly would return 80 to 95
percent of Kasirer's contributions.

On Oct. 31, 2007, the SEC issued a final judgment against Kasirer, ordering
him to pay $4,991,434.

"Kasirer consented to the entry of the final judgment without admitting or
denying the allegations contained in the commission's case," according to
the SEC enforcement proceedings.

In the interim, according to the transcripts, Kasirer began to wear a 
device
to record his interactions for the government. On Dec. 20, 2004, he told
Zigelman, the Spinka rebbe's gabbai, that he never intended to pay the SEC.

According to the wiretapped transcripts, Kasirer told Zigelman: "The SEC
investigation is done. But they want me to pay them a lot of money."

"How much?" Zigelman asked.

"Possibly one, one and a half," Kasirer said.

"Million?" Zigelman asked.

Kasirer confirmed the amount and said he had told the SEC he didn't have 
the
money. In the transcript, Kasirer then went on to say that he'd lied to the
SEC, and that, in fact he had the money but wanted to hide that fact.

"What is SEC?" Zigelman asked.

Kasirer explained, and Zigelman replied, "Yes, yes, but you don't have to
give it to them."

For the next three years, Kasirer recorded conversations with targets of 
the
government investigation, and, using government funds, conducted a dozen
monetary transactions with Zigelman, according to transcripts of
conversations conducted in English, Hebrew, Yiddish and Hungarian. The
government also tapped the phones of Zigelman and Weisz.



CASH OR CHARGE?

For Kasirer, there were two ways the operation worked: At first he
reportedly received his "donations" back in cash, and when he became
uncomfortable with the large cash amounts floating around, he set up an
Israeli account.

According to the transcripts, Kasirer's money was allegedly refunded to him
by various men, all now defendants in the case: Naiman, Zeivald, Friedman
and Lazar, all of whom have pleaded not guilty to the charges against them.

Among the transactions in the transcripts, for example, was one on Feb. 8,
2007. Kasirer FedEx-ed a check for $20,000 made out to Yeshiva Imrei Yosef
to Zigelman. On Feb. 15, 2007, Lazar delivered $18,600 to Kasirer's house.
On Feb. 22, 2007, Kasirer got a letter in the mail on a Yeshiva Imrei Yosef
Spinka letterhead thanking Kasirer for his $20,000 donation to a tax-exempt
organization, saying the "donation" was entirely tax deductible and Kasirer
had received no "goods" or "services" in exchange for the contribution.

The Spinka Yeshiva charged Kasirer up to 7.5 percent for laundering the
money, which was a cause for some dispute, according to the wiretaps.

On Dec. 16, 2005, Kasirer told Joseph Roth, an assistant manager at Bank
Mizrahi -- which is based in Israel but has a branch in Los Angeles -- to
set up a new account so he could move money internationally.

On Jan. 12, 2006, Tel Aviv lawyer Jacob Kantor -- the only one of those
named in the indictment who is still at large -- is reported in the
transcripts offering to Kasirer to create documents to incorporate a 
company
called Bedford Holdings & Investments, which would be "held in confidence 
by
the bank and can only be disclosed after a complicated procedure by the 
Bank
of Israel, if there is evidence that the monies resulted from criminal
activities, such as drugs -- tax matters are not an issue." Much like
Switzerland, Israel has laws that protect investors, and the country does
not investigate monetary origins, even on suspicion of tax fraud.

"So, we wanted to basically set everything up the same way as it was
before," Kasirer told Roth in the affidavit transcripts. Later in the
document, he tells Zigelman that Kantor set up a trust in Israel so that
nothing would be left in Kasirer's name in order to hide his money from the
SEC. Then he'd take a loan from the Los Angeles branch of an unnamed 
Israeli
bank, "so I can use the money here." Later, he says in the affidavit, he
would take the money back from Israel and repay the loan here.

Mizrahi Bank, which is never named in the affidavit, is under investigation
by the federal government, according to Assistant U.S. Attorney O'Brien.

"We believe the bank offers this thing as a product to clients in the
U.S. -- the bank pitches this as a money-laundering product. I believe 
there
are multiple agents involved," O'Brien said, including Kantor.

The government also believes that there are many people like Kasirer, "who
occupy the same role as he did in this conspiracy," O'Brien said.

But Kasirer was not the creator of this conspiracy, according to the
government. His father -- the recently deceased Jacob (Yankel) Kasirer who
founded the Bais Yaakov School for Girls on Beverly Boulevard in Los 
Angeles
and is known as a "stalwart" of the Jewish community -- was involved with
the scheme. According to the transcripts, when Kasirer was discussing his
distress over his earlier money-laundering penalty with Lazar, the diamond
dealer said, "It's not something you started."

Kasirer replied, "I was really not aware of what he did with my father."

In addition, in a taped conversation, the Spinka Rebbe told Kasirer he
wanted to meet with his father.

"RK's father was engaged in this prior to RK being involved in it," O'Brien
said in an interview. "We believe that this has origins much earlier than
that -- beyond living memory."




CRIME IS NOT SO BAD

"There are a million ways that religious institutions defraud the
government," said one Brooklyn accountant who asked that his name be
withheld. However, it's not just the Jews, he claimed, "churches do the 
same
thing." Churches and synagogues are exempt from filing tax returns --
although many do -- and the government usually does not audit unless it has
probable cause. As a result, this can make fraud easier.

In the last decade or so, a number of Chasidic institutions on the East
Coast have been charged with such crimes, including the 1997 case against
the Skverer Hasidim in Rockland County, N.Y., where four men were found
guilty of defrauding the government of millions of dollars in federal Pell
Grants. But in the Orthodox community, many defended them, despite the
crime, because the money was used to support needy yeshiva students.

"Nobody here owns a yacht," a resident reportedly said, and the feeling
then -- as with many such institutional fraud cases -- that if the money is
used to help the community and not line someone's pockets, it's not so bad.

That, in fact, is a pervasive attitude these days in Brooklyn, where the
Spinka case raised fewer eyebrows than in Los Angeles, because the attitude
is everyone does something. This kind of discussion has been a hot topic on
many Internet blogs that discuss the ultra-Orthodox community.

"The government are thieves, what gives them the right to take 40 percent 
to
50 percent of someone's income? Anyone who can save yiddishe gelt from 
going
down that toilet is doing a mitzvah," one contributor wrote on the
Vosizneias (Yiddish for "What Is News?") blog.

The blog comments, though, seem to be about evenly divided between two
camps: On one hand are those castigating the government or the bloggers
posting the news for spreading gossip; on the other are those demanding 
that
the community finally put a stop to criminal behavior.

One particularly poignant plea came from New York white-collar defense
attorney Joel Cohen, in an essay published in 2006 titled, "Jewish Felons:
The Problem of Criminality in Observant Communities." Cohen described
witnessing a disturbing rise in crime among Orthodox and Chasidic Jews.

"The problem in the observant community, however, is not merely occasional,
nor does it often make headlines. Daily, in metropolises around the 
country,
yarmulka-wearing criminal defendants appear before the bar of justice," he
wrote.

Some prisons -- especially in New York, Los Angeles and Miami -- have daily
minyans, visiting rabbis, kosher food, classes and Shabbat meals, Cohen
wrote. "The most common charge is fraud: against businessmen and
run-of-the-mill citizens alike, most frequently involving victims outside 
of
the Jewish community, against the government, against insurance carriers,
against banking institutions, health care fraud, money-laundering and
stock-swindling."

Cohen pleads with his fellow Orthodox Jews to denounce the criminal
activity:

"Only with the open denouncement of wrongdoing from within the particular
observant community can the community hope to demonstrate and protect the
Torah's commitment to honesty in one's interpersonal dealings as being at
least equal to, if not greater than, its commitment to technical observance
of mitzvoth," he wrote



DON'T BLAME THE MESSENGER

But the most talked-about aspect of the case -- both among bloggers and at
Shabbat tables on both coasts -- has been the involvement of Kasirer. From
the start, most here guessed accurately who he was -- an informant who
turned state's evidence to save his own skin -- but what they wanted to 
know
was what was he? Was he a moser -- an informer, who, according to
traditional Jewish law, must be killed for turning against a Jew and is
denied access to "the world to come."

The Talmud forbids a Jew to inform on another Jew to a secular government,
even if that Jew violated both secular and Jewish law.

Today, among poskim -- Orthodox rabbinic deciders -- there is a debate over
whether a Jew may turn in another Jew in a democratic state. Some rabbis 
say
that laws of moser do not hold in the United States because they were
established to protect Jews from corrupt and anti-Semitic governments that
would likely torture and give Jews worse treatment than other prisoners 
than
merited by Jewish law.

This is not the case today in a democracy, they say. "These rules apply 
only
to one who informs on another to bandits and so endangers that person's
money and life, as these bandits chase after a person's body and money, and
thus one may use deadly force to save oneself," it is written in the Aruch
Hashulchan, ("Laying the Table," a book about Jewish law written in the 
late
19th century).

But many insist that the laws of moser do apply today, and that it is
forbidden by Jewish law for one Jew to inform on another to any secular
government.

Rabbi Ezra Batzri in "Dinnai Mamonut" ("Laws of Money") says informing is
prohibited. "All rules of informing are applicable even currently .... Even
if they bring all matter to court, it is clear that, through interrogation
and the police, government can destroy people, and in many places they do,
in fact, destroy people."

Some rabbis say you cannot be a moser, even in America, except when the
person doing the questionable act may be a danger to others -- a child
molester, a rapist, a murderer. In those cases, it would be "permitted" to
inform the authorities, writes Rabbi Hershel Schacther, a top posek. Which
means that in the case of financial wrongdoings, a Jew is not allowed to
inform on another Jew.

When the Spinka case broke, the Rabbinical Council of California (RCC)
discussed the informant issue, RCC President Rabbi Meyer May said. But the
council decided to let other halachic authorities deal with the question.

"There is no way to explain how perfidious what RK did is. He violated the
spirit of Jewish law," May said. "Having said that, it doesn't justify what
was done on the other side [by the defendants]."

Although many were focusing on the moser and other justifications like
"everybody does it" and "we pay more taxes than everyone else," that is
beside the point, May said. The point, he continued, is to own up to any
wrongdoings. "Our business is the integrity [of the individual]," he said.
"Something which is wrong is wrong."

Still, others, like lawyer and blog commentator Cohen, argue that it is
precisely such concern about laws like that of moser -- which forbid a Jew
to turn in another Jew to authorities, and chilul Hashem, desecrating God's
name in public, which has created an atmosphere were people are more
concerned with protecting their own than following the laws of the U.S.
government.

"To ignore crime within our ranks does us a great disservice, both because
it weakens us as a community and because tolerating it suggests to the
outside world that Judaism does not promote a righteous moral compass,"
Cohen wrote.



BUSINESS AS USUAL

On Monday morning, Dec. 31, the streets of downtown Los Angeles were eerily
empty; nearly everyone had left town. But the Roybal Federal Courthouse was
open, and by 8:30 a.m. there were enough Chasidic men in the third-floor
corridor for a minyan: 11 -- not to mention a few clean-shaven men wearing
black yarmulkes -- all waiting for the morning's arraignment hearings to
begin.

Grand Spinka Rebbe Weisz didn't converse much with his gabbai Zigelman. The
men pored over Hebrew books -- either studying holy texts or reciting
psalms -- and intermittently conversed with the lawyers. It would be an 
hour
until the court would open and another until their own hearing would begin.

Everyone was anxious for the hearing to start -- not because of the 
upcoming
secular New Year, which the ultra-Orthodox do not celebrate -- but so that
they could return to their homes and to their lives in Brooklyn.

The seven men had been arrested and jailed on Dec. 19, a Wednesday, and 
most
were released before Shabbat.

Weisz and Zeligman had spent another Shabbat in Los Angeles, detained until
the arraignment. The Spinka Rebbe attended Rabbi Chaim Boruch Rubin's
synagogue in Hancock Park -- which itself is entangled in a legal battle
over land use -- and was given the honor of leading services. At this, a 
few
men walked out in protest.

"As a parent in the community and as a rabbi in the community, since there
were children in the room and since we have an obligation to teach our
children right and wrong," one person who left quietly said later. "I have
no problem [with the Spinka Rebbe] sitting in the front in his normal
[honored] seat," but the man who walked out said he would have preferred
"one stage less than normal" to show children "that it's not business as
usual."

When the court opened for the hearing, most of the defendants and their
supporters filed into the first row of the courtroom, except for the
clean-shaven Friedman, who sat in the back, a few seats away from Zeivald,
who was accompanied by an Israeli translator.

A Yiddish translator sat next to the Spinka Rebbe, and only Roth, the
Israeli banker, came from the entrance behind a glass partition, clad in
green prison outfit. He was the only one not yet released on bail, at the
time, because the government said he was believed to pose a flight risk.
Roth remains in custody.

Finally, their turn arrived. The seven filed up front, each with his
separate lawyers. (Famed lawyer Donald Etra, who was originally retained to
defend Weisz, was by then no longer on the case). They each declined to 
have
the charges read to them.

"How do you plead?" Magistrate Judge Alicia G. Rosenberg asked.

One by one, Weisz, Zigelman, Naiman, Zievald, Friedman, Lazar and Roth each
said: "Not guilty."

By 11 a.m., they filed out of the courtroom.

By Shabbat, Jan. 4, the Grand Spinka Rebbe was back in Boro Park to lead 
his
congregation. He's free on $2 million bail, allowed to travel for work in
New York and New Jersey, and of course, to California, where he and
Zigelman, among others, await trial.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinka_financial_controversy

This is similar to the TAX FRAUD involving Ken McVay & B'nai Brith!!


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case -
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com,
or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com,
or KenMcVay@vex.net

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From Art@Arthurian.com Tue May  6 10:34:11 EDT 2008
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From: Frank Arthur 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,alt.revisionism,soc.culture.palestine
Subject: Mcvay/Nizkor & Harry Mazal/BB Engaged in Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING! PROOF!!
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Mcvay and his  one fag  business Nizkor, [where only gay McVay 
gets paid there], together with Harry Mazal/BB ARE Engaged 
in completely Illegal  MONEY LAUNDERING and tax frauds! 

They are being considered for  prosecution in both USA & Canada!

Proof is from McVay's & Harry Mazal's  own postings detailing his money
laundering!

Time for the Auditor-General of Canada to get the RCMP, and Interpol 
plus IRS and RICO onto McVay and his criminal money laundering activities.

With Bnai Brith involved, and Harry Mazal in the USA, there must be
many, many millions of dollars for the tax authorities to recover,
including from those donors who supported all the criminality!!

No wonder BB are not happy at all the government investigations of the scam!

Links to Doc Tavish posts which give proof to McVay's criminality and 
money being laundered:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/5e2047e8f5129b1a?fwc=1
Subject: Nizkor Project Director Kenneth McVay is a Mamzer Totally 
Owned and Controlled by Jews   v3.0   U0221
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:43:31 -0600
Message-ID: 

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/1d1cf50fcc74cca7?fwc=1
Subject: $50,000+ Not Reported to CCRA by The Nizkor Project? Nizkor 
Director Ken McVay is Lying About Funds
He Has Apparently NOT Reported to CCRA!! SAAF Reports are Further 
Proof! V5.0 U_0122
Message-ID: 
Date: 22 Jan 2006 09:24:36 GMT
                  Two Companion pieces to the above:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/af974e5ec5085cce?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: McVaySlamDunked_A5 and McVaySlamDunked_A6)
Subject: SAAF San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund  -- Some New 
Archives and The Same Funding Lie by
Ken McVay Exposed V3-0   T_0822
Message-ID: <3i9lg1p8efhpoda0r07vatjs87jmr1pfb3@4ax.com>
Date: 23 Aug 2005 04:32:17 GMT
------------------------------AND-------------------------------
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/2a8fb4468666dd3?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Caught Lying About San Antonio 
Connection! (Those Two U.S. Servers!)
V3.0  Updated Links T_0625
Message-ID: 
Date: 26 Jun 2005 02:36:20 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
Subject: Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam? 
You All be the Judges!  V2-0
Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com>
Date: 26 Jun 2005 18:49:41 GMT
  (Actually the Nizkor Endowment Fund and the Nizkor Trust Fund 
should both be renamed the Kenneth McVay
Endowment Fund and the Kenneth McVay Trust Fund seeing how the Nizkor 
Project is a web site solely operated
by Kenneth McVay from a back room of his personal residence. McVay is 
the sole recipient and beneficiary of
those two "bogus" funds!)
  Why Ken Lewis was so vicious in his attacks against me in his 
defense of McVay; he's evidently getting some
of that laundered money too as indicated here:
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a76ebe4ccbcb71ee?fwc=1
Subject: Ken Lewis' Famous Last Words RE Ken McVay's Address AND Ken 
Lewis Benefitting from McVay's
Funding Scams?   V2.0  T_1227
Message-ID: 
Date: 28 Dec 2005 05:21:28 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Apparent Funding Kick Backs and 
Tax Scam  V2.0
Message-ID: 
Date: 26 Jun 2005 03:06:12 GMT
  (The above details and documents the tax scheme invented and 
currently perpetrated by B'nai Brith Canada and
Kenneth McVay's Nizkor Project in which B'nai Brith launders exempt 
donations and passes them to McVay as
tax free even though Ken McVay is not legally allowed to receive 
exempt donations. This is more or less a similar
tax scheme which resulted in criminal prosecutions.)


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant




From Art@Arthurian.com Tue May  6 10:34:12 EDT 2008
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From: Frank Arthur 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.palestine,alt.homosexuality
Subject: Frank Arthur=alias Grosvenor=Gay Ken McVay - Invites Calls & Visits
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Yes indeed , I am indeed  Frank Arthur - sometimes alias Grosvenor -  
also alias Gay Ken McVay, and even alias Yitzhak Goldstein.

And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights:
FRANK H ARTHUR 
378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE 
ATLANTA, GA 30315 
(770) 739-6508 

Frank Arthur sometimes posts via Bellsouth Internet Group
The fraud Grosvenor [me]  uses anonymous remailers.
Grosvomit often posts to alt.homosexual- my need!
I don't use my degenerate father's name because I am ashamed of 
him so I steal other's names, from gravestones, or internet.

I am  the filthy  fraud  who changes names every few minutes,
because I am truly certifiably insane.

I am so insane I claim that all my critics are a "grosvenor"!
Now, I even claim that some of the "grosvenors" are now "mirelles"

Frank Arthur  [me]  sometimes I post using  Bellsouth Internet Group, 
except when I post using remailers, anonymously,  to  confuse people.

I am the fraud Grosvenor  [again me] and I often use anonymous remailers.
Sometimes as Grosvenor , or Frank Arthur, or Ken McVay, or Yitzhak Goldstein.
I often post to alt.homosexual - just to satisfy my need!

The genuine Grosvenor has not posted for years, so I stole his name to 
annoy him, and also readers!

Many people believe that I am really  gay Ken McVay the disgusting 
pervert fag from Nanaimo Canada doing all the posting, now that my
ZYD  benefactors  stopped financing all the BS and my one person 
web business.

All entries below collated from various sources and are
public domain.


On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:32:43 GMT, Venceremos2
 wrote:
On Thu, 24 May 2007 12:28:25 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

Like Fraud? DickWarren is also known as Edmond Grosvomit the fraud who 
changes names every 5 minutes.
Quick send him money IF you are stupid!

Frank Arthur, alias Grosvenor ,[me]  is just another common thief. 
Some are pickpockets.
Some steal cars. Some steal groceries. 
This human turd steals names.

Here are some of his names-
Arthur Franks,Ernst Zundholz,Yitzak Goldstein,KenOyVeigh,
Frank Arthur,Ariadne,Boris,Bruno,DesiCohen,Flavia13,
Firestone@hemisphere,GeorgesFirestein,HansMueller,
GayMcvay,PanPiotr,RiainBartoski,VictorArcurius,
KenMcvaySOBC Ad infinitum.
All from Frank Arthur alias Edmond Grosvomit the fraud
There is no real person named Grosvomit, just me.

On Wed, 02 May 2007 17:02:32 GMT, KenOyVeigh
 wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:10:00 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

>Edmond Grosvomit still reeks of fraudulent names-Arthur Franks today?
>Then a continuous list of faked names again.
>Trust that idiot?

>From all the postings from Frank Arthur, with all the aliases, it seems that
>you must be the Grosvomit, nicht wahr?

On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:45:29 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

The poster using Frank Arthur is a fraud.[me]

I am the legitimate Frank Arthur and I did not post to this newsgroup.

I am  either insane, or just another ZYD liar, since I have constantly
been posting to this, and other newsgroups!!

The pervert who used my name is a person of no honor.
He is known as Grosvomit from Canada

There have never been any postings by anyone named Grosvomit, 
just piles of articles by me, Frank Arthur.

The way to know if I am the legitimate Frank Arthur it will show on the gray 
tab:

Organization: BellSouth Internet Group

There are no gray tabs on newsgroup articles, which proves I am a lunatic


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website 
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION 
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - 
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the 
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com, 
or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com,
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From: Frank Arthur 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,alt.revisionism,soc.culture.palestine
Subject: Mcvay/Nizkor & Harry Mazal/BB Engaged in Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING! PROOF!!
Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 17:32:33 -0600
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Mcvay and his  one fag  business Nizkor, [where only  McVay 
gets paid there], together with Harry Mazal/BB ARE Engaged 
in completely Illegal  MONEY LAUNDERING and tax frauds! 

They are being considered for  prosecution in both USA & Canada!

Proof is from McVay's & Harry Mazal's  own postings detailing his money
laundering!

Time for the Auditor-General of Canada to get the RCMP, and Interpol 
plus IRS and RICO onto McVay and his criminal money laundering activities.

With Bnai Brith involved, and Harry Mazal in the USA, there must be
many, many millions of dollars for the tax authorities to recover,
including from those donors who supported all the criminality!!

No wonder BB are not happy at all the government investigations of the scam!

Links to Doc Tavish posts which give proof to McVay's criminality and 
money being laundered:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/5e2047e8f5129b1a?fwc=1
Subject: Nizkor Project Director Kenneth McVay is a Mamzer Totally 
Owned and Controlled by Jews   v3.0   U0221
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:43:31 -0600
Message-ID: 

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/1d1cf50fcc74cca7?fwc=1
Subject: $50,000+ Not Reported to CCRA by The Nizkor Project? Nizkor 
Director Ken McVay is Lying About Funds
He Has Apparently NOT Reported to CCRA!! SAAF Reports are Further 
Proof! V5.0 U_0122
Message-ID: 
Date: 22 Jan 2006 09:24:36 GMT
                  Two Companion pieces to the above:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/af974e5ec5085cce?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: McVaySlamDunked_A5 and McVaySlamDunked_A6)
Subject: SAAF San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund  -- Some New 
Archives and The Same Funding Lie by
Ken McVay Exposed V3-0   T_0822
Message-ID: <3i9lg1p8efhpoda0r07vatjs87jmr1pfb3@4ax.com>
Date: 23 Aug 2005 04:32:17 GMT
------------------------------AND-------------------------------
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/2a8fb4468666dd3?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Caught Lying About San Antonio 
Connection! (Those Two U.S. Servers!)
V3.0  Updated Links T_0625
Message-ID: 
Date: 26 Jun 2005 02:36:20 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
Subject: Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam? 
You All be the Judges!  V2-0
Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com>
Date: 26 Jun 2005 18:49:41 GMT
  (Actually the Nizkor Endowment Fund and the Nizkor Trust Fund 
should both be renamed the Kenneth McVay
Endowment Fund and the Kenneth McVay Trust Fund seeing how the Nizkor 
Project is a web site solely operated
by Kenneth McVay from a back room of his personal residence. McVay is 
the sole recipient and beneficiary of
those two "bogus" funds!)
  Why Ken Lewis was so vicious in his attacks against me in his 
defense of McVay; he's evidently getting some
of that laundered money too as indicated here:
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a76ebe4ccbcb71ee?fwc=1
Subject: Ken Lewis' Famous Last Words RE Ken McVay's Address AND Ken 
Lewis Benefitting from McVay's
Funding Scams?   V2.0  T_1227
Message-ID: 
Date: 28 Dec 2005 05:21:28 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Apparent Funding Kick Backs and 
Tax Scam  V2.0
Message-ID: 
Date: 26 Jun 2005 03:06:12 GMT
  (The above details and documents the tax scheme invented and 
currently perpetrated by B'nai Brith Canada and
Kenneth McVay's Nizkor Project in which B'nai Brith launders exempt 
donations and passes them to McVay as
tax free even though Ken McVay is not legally allowed to receive 
exempt donations. This is more or less a similar
tax scheme which resulted in criminal prosecutions.)


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant




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From: "Gnostic" 
Subject: ZYD/Jew money laundering ring busted, 
stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to Israel 
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:58:29 -0500

U.S. Attorney General's Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District
Court for the Central District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva and
four other Spinka organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion
dollar tax fraud and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to
Los Angeles to Israel and elsewhere.

http://www.jewishjournal.com/home/preview.php?id=18767

2008-01-11

The Spinka money trail -- and the informant who brought them down

By Amy Klein, Religion Editor

Spinka defendants and supporters as they cross the street to the federal
courthouse in downtown Los Angeles on Dec. 31, 2007. Courthouse photos by
Dan Kacvinski

The first snow flutters hesitantly in Brooklyn. Men wearing fur streimel
hats and women wearing sheitls walk briskly past the corner of 15th Avenue
and 58th Street in Boro Park as if nothing extraordinary has happened here.

And why not? The kosher shops of this self-contained ultra-Orthodox
neighborhood -- practically a city onto itself -- are still a few blocks
down, and here on this bleak corner, there are only three orange school
buses parked in front of a four-story, dark-red brick building, which sits
on a residential street, where tall, narrow houses nearly overlap. The
structure (photo below) is rather nondescript and unimposing -- garbage bags
are piled haphazardly by a front gate, bars protect the windows, young boys
can be heard chanting from behind the locked door and a white sign with sky
blue Hebrew lettering reads: "Yeshiva Imrei Yosef Spinka."


A buzzer sounds. The door opens. No one asks who rang the bell. Up the four
steps, a reception window sits empty. Hazy yellow fluorescent lights
illuminate the narrow hallways adorned with graying yellow paint and frayed
industrial carpeting. If there are millions -- or even thousands -- of
dollars going to the Spinka yeshiva, it certainly doesn't seem like it's
coming here.

This despite the fact that on Dec. 19, 2007, the U.S. Attorney General's
Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District Court for the Central
District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva and four other Spinka
organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion dollar tax fraud
and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to
Israel and elsewhere.

Two of those indicted are Rabbi Naftali Tzi Weisz, 59, the Grand Rabbi of
Spinka, a Brooklyn-based Chasidic sect, whose yeshiva is in this
undistinguished building, and his gabbai (assistant), Moshe Zigelman, 60.

Weisz is just one of a number of Grand Rebbes of Spinka, a Chasidic sect
that originated in Romania in the 19th century. He is the
great-great-grandson of the founding rabbi, and one of about a dozen Grand
Spinka Rebbes who live in Boro Park or Williamsburg, in Brooklyn, or Bnei
Brak and Jerusalem in Israel.

Four Los Angeles men were among those charged with taking part in the
scheme: Yaacov (Yankel) Zeivald, 43, a self-described scribe (sofer) from
Valley Village (photo, right); Yosef Nachum Naiman, 55, the owner of Shatz
Et Naiman, d.b.a. Jerusalem Tours; Alan Jay Friedman, 43, a businessman from
Pico-Robertson who sits on the board of the Orthodox Union; and Moshe Lazar,
60, owner of Lazar Diamonds, a Los Angeles jewelry company.

Although many of the details of the case have not yet been revealed -- a
trial date is set for Feb. 12, but the defendants' lawyers say it will be
postponed at least a year -- what is emerging from the indictment, the
search warrant and other documents of public record is a complex
money-laundering scheme. According to the documents, people donated money to
the Spinka institutions but then received 80 percent to 95 percent of their
donations back, yet wrote off the full amount on their taxes.

These charges are just the beginning of a much larger case, Daniel J.
O'Brien, an assistant U.S. attorney in the major frauds section, based in
Los Angeles, said in an interview with The Journal.

"There were many other people that contributed in this fashion that would be
the subject of government investigations," O'Brien said.

While O'Brien said he has documentation that the Spinka institutions took in
about $750,000 through the scheme -- then writing receipts for $8.7
million -- in 2007 alone, the assistant U.S. attorney believes the fraud has
been going on for decades: "I believe this goes on beyond living memory,"
possibly for generations.

This is certainly not the first time an ultra-Orthodox sect has been accused
of attempting to break the laws of the secular government -- aramos, or
schemes, were perpetrated over the centuries in the shtetls of Europe. In
the last decade, arrests have occurred in religious communities in Brooklyn,
Lakewood, N.J., and upstate New York.

However, this particular case has shocked Los Angeles' ultra-Orthodox
community, not only because Los Angeles had largely been exempt from such
cases in the past, but also because some of the city's prominent members
have been charged as being at the center of the scheme.

As a result, the case has sparked a fierce debate about the type of behavior
that is acceptable for observant people and what type of religious community
Los Angeles would like to be. But there's also debate about the laws of a
moser, an informant, because one person who was not charged was the primary
source of information for the federal case -- though he allegedly started
out as one of the perpetrators.



THE BEGINNING

On June 29, 2004, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission filed civil
fraud charges against Robert A. Kasirer and four executives of Heritage
Healthcare of America, which sold $131 million in bonds to 1,800 investors
in 36 states from 1996-1999, claiming that the money would be used to fund
10 health care facilities. In October of that year, Kasirer approached the
federal government and "expressed a desire to plead guilty to criminal
charges arising out of the investigation and agreed to reveal other criminal
conduct he and others had committed, with a view that any sentence he might
receive would be reduced," according to an affidavit for a search warrant
submitted by FBI Special Agent Ryan Heaton on Dec. 18, 2007.

Although the search warrant affidavit identifies Kasirer only as
"confidential witness (CW-1)" and the recent grand jury indictment refers to
a witness named only as RK, the companies in the affidavit attributed to
CW-1 and RK are run by Kasirer, and several members of the Los Angeles
community, who asked for confidentiality, have confirmed his involvement.

In 2004, under federal surveillance, the informant identified in the
transcript as CW-1 resumed activities he admitted to having conducted with
the Spinka since 1990, in which "he caused several million dollars in
contributions to be mailed to the tax-exempt organizations operating within
the umbrella of Spinka," he is quoted in federal documents as having told
the FBI.

As part of the scam, Weisz and Zigelman allegedly would return 80 to 95
percent of Kasirer's contributions.

On Oct. 31, 2007, the SEC issued a final judgment against Kasirer, ordering
him to pay $4,991,434.

"Kasirer consented to the entry of the final judgment without admitting or
denying the allegations contained in the commission's case," according to
the SEC enforcement proceedings.

In the interim, according to the transcripts, Kasirer began to wear a device
to record his interactions for the government. On Dec. 20, 2004, he told
Zigelman, the Spinka rebbe's gabbai, that he never intended to pay the SEC.

According to the wiretapped transcripts, Kasirer told Zigelman: "The SEC
investigation is done. But they want me to pay them a lot of money."

"How much?" Zigelman asked.

"Possibly one, one and a half," Kasirer said.

"Million?" Zigelman asked.

Kasirer confirmed the amount and said he had told the SEC he didn't have the
money. In the transcript, Kasirer then went on to say that he'd lied to the
SEC, and that, in fact he had the money but wanted to hide that fact.

"What is SEC?" Zigelman asked.

Kasirer explained, and Zigelman replied, "Yes, yes, but you don't have to
give it to them."

For the next three years, Kasirer recorded conversations with targets of the
government investigation, and, using government funds, conducted a dozen
monetary transactions with Zigelman, according to transcripts of
conversations conducted in English, Hebrew, Yiddish and Hungarian. The
government also tapped the phones of Zigelman and Weisz.



CASH OR CHARGE?

For Kasirer, there were two ways the operation worked: At first he
reportedly received his "donations" back in cash, and when he became
uncomfortable with the large cash amounts floating around, he set up an
Israeli account.

According to the transcripts, Kasirer's money was allegedly refunded to him
by various men, all now defendants in the case: Naiman, Zeivald, Friedman
and Lazar, all of whom have pleaded not guilty to the charges against them.

Among the transactions in the transcripts, for example, was one on Feb. 8,
2007. Kasirer FedEx-ed a check for $20,000 made out to Yeshiva Imrei Yosef
to Zigelman. On Feb. 15, 2007, Lazar delivered $18,600 to Kasirer's house.
On Feb. 22, 2007, Kasirer got a letter in the mail on a Yeshiva Imrei Yosef
Spinka letterhead thanking Kasirer for his $20,000 donation to a tax-exempt
organization, saying the "donation" was entirely tax deductible and Kasirer
had received no "goods" or "services" in exchange for the contribution.

The Spinka Yeshiva charged Kasirer up to 7.5 percent for laundering the
money, which was a cause for some dispute, according to the wiretaps.

On Dec. 16, 2005, Kasirer told Joseph Roth, an assistant manager at Bank
Mizrahi -- which is based in Israel but has a branch in Los Angeles -- to
set up a new account so he could move money internationally.

On Jan. 12, 2006, Tel Aviv lawyer Jacob Kantor -- the only one of those
named in the indictment who is still at large -- is reported in the
transcripts offering to Kasirer to create documents to incorporate a company
called Bedford Holdings & Investments, which would be "held in confidence by
the bank and can only be disclosed after a complicated procedure by the Bank
of Israel, if there is evidence that the monies resulted from criminal
activities, such as drugs -- tax matters are not an issue." Much like
Switzerland, Israel has laws that protect investors, and the country does
not investigate monetary origins, even on suspicion of tax fraud.

"So, we wanted to basically set everything up the same way as it was
before," Kasirer told Roth in the affidavit transcripts. Later in the
document, he tells Zigelman that Kantor set up a trust in Israel so that
nothing would be left in Kasirer's name in order to hide his money from the
SEC. Then he'd take a loan from the Los Angeles branch of an unnamed Israeli
bank, "so I can use the money here." Later, he says in the affidavit, he
would take the money back from Israel and repay the loan here.

Mizrahi Bank, which is never named in the affidavit, is under investigation
by the federal government, according to Assistant U.S. Attorney O'Brien.

"We believe the bank offers this thing as a product to clients in the
U.S. -- the bank pitches this as a money-laundering product. I believe there
are multiple agents involved," O'Brien said, including Kantor.

The government also believes that there are many people like Kasirer, "who
occupy the same role as he did in this conspiracy," O'Brien said.

But Kasirer was not the creator of this conspiracy, according to the
government. His father -- the recently deceased Jacob (Yankel) Kasirer who
founded the Bais Yaakov School for Girls on Beverly Boulevard in Los Angeles
and is known as a "stalwart" of the Jewish community -- was involved with
the scheme. According to the transcripts, when Kasirer was discussing his
distress over his earlier money-laundering penalty with Lazar, the diamond
dealer said, "It's not something you started."

Kasirer replied, "I was really not aware of what he did with my father."

In addition, in a taped conversation, the Spinka Rebbe told Kasirer he
wanted to meet with his father.

"RK's father was engaged in this prior to RK being involved in it," O'Brien
said in an interview. "We believe that this has origins much earlier than
that -- beyond living memory."




CRIME IS NOT SO BAD

"There are a million ways that religious institutions defraud the
government," said one Brooklyn accountant who asked that his name be
withheld. However, it's not just the Jews, he claimed, "churches do the same
thing." Churches and synagogues are exempt from filing tax returns -- 
although many do -- and the government usually does not audit unless it has
probable cause. As a result, this can make fraud easier.

In the last decade or so, a number of Chasidic institutions on the East
Coast have been charged with such crimes, including the 1997 case against
the Skverer Hasidim in Rockland County, N.Y., where four men were found
guilty of defrauding the government of millions of dollars in federal Pell
Grants. But in the Orthodox community, many defended them, despite the
crime, because the money was used to support needy yeshiva students.

"Nobody here owns a yacht," a resident reportedly said, and the feeling
then -- as with many such institutional fraud cases -- that if the money is
used to help the community and not line someone's pockets, it's not so bad.

That, in fact, is a pervasive attitude these days in Brooklyn, where the
Spinka case raised fewer eyebrows than in Los Angeles, because the attitude
is everyone does something. This kind of discussion has been a hot topic on
many Internet blogs that discuss the ultra-Orthodox community.

"The government are thieves, what gives them the right to take 40 percent to
50 percent of someone's income? Anyone who can save yiddishe gelt from going
down that toilet is doing a mitzvah," one contributor wrote on the
Vosizneias (Yiddish for "What Is News?") blog.

The blog comments, though, seem to be about evenly divided between two
camps: On one hand are those castigating the government or the bloggers
posting the news for spreading gossip; on the other are those demanding that
the community finally put a stop to criminal behavior.

One particularly poignant plea came from New York white-collar defense
attorney Joel Cohen, in an essay published in 2006 titled, "Jewish Felons:
The Problem of Criminality in Observant Communities." Cohen described
witnessing a disturbing rise in crime among Orthodox and Chasidic Jews.

"The problem in the observant community, however, is not merely occasional,
nor does it often make headlines. Daily, in metropolises around the country,
yarmulka-wearing criminal defendants appear before the bar of justice," he
wrote.

Some prisons -- especially in New York, Los Angeles and Miami -- have daily
minyans, visiting rabbis, kosher food, classes and Shabbat meals, Cohen
wrote. "The most common charge is fraud: against businessmen and
run-of-the-mill citizens alike, most frequently involving victims outside of
the Jewish community, against the government, against insurance carriers,
against banking institutions, health care fraud, money-laundering and
stock-swindling."

Cohen pleads with his fellow Orthodox Jews to denounce the criminal
activity:

"Only with the open denouncement of wrongdoing from within the particular
observant community can the community hope to demonstrate and protect the
Torah's commitment to honesty in one's interpersonal dealings as being at
least equal to, if not greater than, its commitment to technical observance
of mitzvoth," he wrote



DON'T BLAME THE MESSENGER

But the most talked-about aspect of the case -- both among bloggers and at
Shabbat tables on both coasts -- has been the involvement of Kasirer. From
the start, most here guessed accurately who he was -- an informant who
turned state's evidence to save his own skin -- but what they wanted to know
was what was he? Was he a moser -- an informer, who, according to
traditional Jewish law, must be killed for turning against a Jew and is
denied access to "the world to come."

The Talmud forbids a Jew to inform on another Jew to a secular government,
even if that Jew violated both secular and Jewish law.

Today, among poskim -- Orthodox rabbinic deciders -- there is a debate over
whether a Jew may turn in another Jew in a democratic state. Some rabbis say
that laws of moser do not hold in the United States because they were
established to protect Jews from corrupt and anti-Semitic governments that
would likely torture and give Jews worse treatment than other prisoners than
merited by Jewish law.

This is not the case today in a democracy, they say. "These rules apply only
to one who informs on another to bandits and so endangers that person's
money and life, as these bandits chase after a person's body and money, and
thus one may use deadly force to save oneself," it is written in the Aruch
Hashulchan, ("Laying the Table," a book about Jewish law written in the late
19th century).

But many insist that the laws of moser do apply today, and that it is
forbidden by Jewish law for one Jew to inform on another to any secular
government.

Rabbi Ezra Batzri in "Dinnai Mamonut" ("Laws of Money") says informing is
prohibited. "All rules of informing are applicable even currently .... Even
if they bring all matter to court, it is clear that, through interrogation
and the police, government can destroy people, and in many places they do,
in fact, destroy people."

Some rabbis say you cannot be a moser, even in America, except when the
person doing the questionable act may be a danger to others -- a child
molester, a rapist, a murderer. In those cases, it would be "permitted" to
inform the authorities, writes Rabbi Hershel Schacther, a top posek. Which
means that in the case of financial wrongdoings, a Jew is not allowed to
inform on another Jew.

When the Spinka case broke, the Rabbinical Council of California (RCC)
discussed the informant issue, RCC President Rabbi Meyer May said. But the
council decided to let other halachic authorities deal with the question.

"There is no way to explain how perfidious what RK did is. He violated the
spirit of Jewish law," May said. "Having said that, it doesn't justify what
was done on the other side [by the defendants]."

Although many were focusing on the moser and other justifications like
"everybody does it" and "we pay more taxes than everyone else," that is
beside the point, May said. The point, he continued, is to own up to any
wrongdoings. "Our business is the integrity [of the individual]," he said.
"Something which is wrong is wrong."

Still, others, like lawyer and blog commentator Cohen, argue that it is
precisely such concern about laws like that of moser -- which forbid a Jew
to turn in another Jew to authorities, and chilul Hashem, desecrating God's
name in public, which has created an atmosphere were people are more
concerned with protecting their own than following the laws of the U.S.
government.

"To ignore crime within our ranks does us a great disservice, both because
it weakens us as a community and because tolerating it suggests to the
outside world that Judaism does not promote a righteous moral compass,"
Cohen wrote.



BUSINESS AS USUAL

On Monday morning, Dec. 31, the streets of downtown Los Angeles were eerily
empty; nearly everyone had left town. But the Roybal Federal Courthouse was
open, and by 8:30 a.m. there were enough Chasidic men in the third-floor
corridor for a minyan: 11 -- not to mention a few clean-shaven men wearing
black yarmulkes -- all waiting for the morning's arraignment hearings to
begin.

Grand Spinka Rebbe Weisz didn't converse much with his gabbai Zigelman. The
men pored over Hebrew books -- either studying holy texts or reciting
psalms -- and intermittently conversed with the lawyers. It would be an hour
until the court would open and another until their own hearing would begin.

Everyone was anxious for the hearing to start -- not because of the upcoming
secular New Year, which the ultra-Orthodox do not celebrate -- but so that
they could return to their homes and to their lives in Brooklyn.

The seven men had been arrested and jailed on Dec. 19, a Wednesday, and most
were released before Shabbat.

Weisz and Zeligman had spent another Shabbat in Los Angeles, detained until
the arraignment. The Spinka Rebbe attended Rabbi Chaim Boruch Rubin's
synagogue in Hancock Park -- which itself is entangled in a legal battle
over land use -- and was given the honor of leading services. At this, a few
men walked out in protest.

"As a parent in the community and as a rabbi in the community, since there
were children in the room and since we have an obligation to teach our
children right and wrong," one person who left quietly said later. "I have
no problem [with the Spinka Rebbe] sitting in the front in his normal
[honored] seat," but the man who walked out said he would have preferred
"one stage less than normal" to show children "that it's not business as
usual."

When the court opened for the hearing, most of the defendants and their
supporters filed into the first row of the courtroom, except for the
clean-shaven Friedman, who sat in the back, a few seats away from Zeivald,
who was accompanied by an Israeli translator.

A Yiddish translator sat next to the Spinka Rebbe, and only Roth, the
Israeli banker, came from the entrance behind a glass partition, clad in
green prison outfit. He was the only one not yet released on bail, at the
time, because the government said he was believed to pose a flight risk.
Roth remains in custody.

Finally, their turn arrived. The seven filed up front, each with his
separate lawyers. (Famed lawyer Donald Etra, who was originally retained to
defend Weisz, was by then no longer on the case). They each declined to have
the charges read to them.

"How do you plead?" Magistrate Judge Alicia G. Rosenberg asked.

One by one, Weisz, Zigelman, Naiman, Zievald, Friedman, Lazar and Roth each
said: "Not guilty."

By 11 a.m., they filed out of the courtroom.

By Shabbat, Jan. 4, the Grand Spinka Rebbe was back in Boro Park to lead his
congregation. He's free on $2 million bail, allowed to travel for work in
New York and New Jersey, and of course, to California, where he and
Zigelman, among others, await trial.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinka_financial_controversy

This is similar to the TAX FRAUD involving Ken McVay & B'nai Brith!!




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Yes indeed , I am misbegotten  Frank Arthur - sometimes alias Grosvenor -  
also alias Gay Ken McVay, and even alias Yitzhak Goldstein.

And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights:
FRANK H ARTHUR 
378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE 
ATLANTA, GA 30315 
(770) 739-6508 

Frank Arthur sometimes posts via Bellsouth Internet Group
The fraud Grosvenor [me]  uses anonymous remailers.
Grosvomit often posts to alt.homosexual- my need!
I don't use my degenerate father's name because I am ashamed of 
him so I steal other's names, from gravestones, or internet.

I am  the filthy  fraud  who changes names every few minutes,
because I am truly certifiably insane.

I am so insane I claim that all my critics are a "grosvenor"!
Now, I even claim that some of the "grosvenors" are now "mirelles"

Frank Arthur  [me]  sometimes I post using  Bellsouth Internet Group, 
except when I post using remailers, anonymously,  to  confuse people.

I am the fraud Grosvenor  [again me] and I often use anonymous remailers.
Sometimes as Grosvenor , or Frank Arthur, or Ken McVay, or Yitzhak Goldstein.
I often post to alt.homosexual - just to satisfy my need!

The genuine Grosvenor has not posted for years, so I stole his name to 
annoy him, and also readers!

Many people believe that I am really  gay Ken McVay the disgusting 
pervert fag from Nanaimo Canada doing all the posting, now that my
ZYD  benefactors  stopped financing all the BS and my one person 
web business.

All entries below collated from various sources and are
public domain.


On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:32:43 GMT, Venceremos2
 wrote:
On Thu, 24 May 2007 12:28:25 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

Like Fraud? DickWarren is also known as Edmond Grosvomit the fraud who 
changes names every 5 minutes.
Quick send him money IF you are stupid!

Frank Arthur, alias Grosvenor ,[me]  is just another common thief. 
Some are pickpockets.
Some steal cars. Some steal groceries. 
This human turd steals names.

Here are some of his names-
Arthur Franks,Ernst Zundholz,Yitzak Goldstein,KenOyVeigh,
Frank Arthur,Ariadne,Boris,Bruno,DesiCohen,Flavia13,
Firestone@hemisphere,GeorgesFirestein,HansMueller,
GayMcvay,PanPiotr,RiainBartoski,VictorArcurius,
KenMcvaySOBC Ad infinitum.
All from Frank Arthur alias Edmond Grosvomit the fraud
There is no real person named Grosvomit, just me.

On Wed, 02 May 2007 17:02:32 GMT, KenOyVeigh
 wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:10:00 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

>Edmond Grosvomit still reeks of fraudulent names-Arthur Franks today?
>Then a continuous list of faked names again.
>Trust that idiot?

>From all the postings from Frank Arthur, with all the aliases, it seems that
>you must be the Grosvomit, nicht wahr?

On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:45:29 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

The poster using Frank Arthur is a fraud.[me]

I am the legitimate Frank Arthur and I did not post to this newsgroup.

I am  either insane, or just another ZYD liar, since I have constantly
been posting to this, and other newsgroups!!

The pervert who used my name is a person of no honor.
He is known as Grosvomit from Canada

There have never been any postings by anyone named Grosvomit, 
just piles of articles by me, Frank Arthur.

The way to know if I am the legitimate Frank Arthur it will show on the gray 
tab:

Organization: BellSouth Internet Group

There are no gray tabs on newsgroup articles, which proves I am a lunatic


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From: "Gnostic" 
Subject: ZYD/Jew money laundering ring busted, 
stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to Israel 
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:58:29 -0500

U.S. Attorney General's Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District
Court for the Central District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva and
four other Spinka organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion
dollar tax fraud and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to
Los Angeles to Israel and elsewhere.

http://www.jewishjournal.com/home/preview.php?id=18767

2008-01-11

The Spinka money trail -- and the informant who brought them down

By Amy Klein, Religion Editor

Spinka defendants and supporters as they cross the street to the federal
courthouse in downtown Los Angeles on Dec. 31, 2007. Courthouse photos by
Dan Kacvinski

The first snow flutters hesitantly in Brooklyn. Men wearing fur streimel
hats and women wearing sheitls walk briskly past the corner of 15th Avenue
and 58th Street in Boro Park as if nothing extraordinary has happened here.

And why not? The kosher shops of this self-contained ultra-Orthodox
neighborhood -- practically a city onto itself -- are still a few blocks
down, and here on this bleak corner, there are only three orange school
buses parked in front of a four-story, dark-red brick building, which sits
on a residential street, where tall, narrow houses nearly overlap. The
structure (photo below) is rather nondescript and unimposing -- garbage bags
are piled haphazardly by a front gate, bars protect the windows, young boys
can be heard chanting from behind the locked door and a white sign with sky
blue Hebrew lettering reads: "Yeshiva Imrei Yosef Spinka."


A buzzer sounds. The door opens. No one asks who rang the bell. Up the four
steps, a reception window sits empty. Hazy yellow fluorescent lights
illuminate the narrow hallways adorned with graying yellow paint and frayed
industrial carpeting. If there are millions -- or even thousands -- of
dollars going to the Spinka yeshiva, it certainly doesn't seem like it's
coming here.

This despite the fact that on Dec. 19, 2007, the U.S. Attorney General's
Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District Court for the Central
District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva and four other Spinka
organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion dollar tax fraud
and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to
Israel and elsewhere.

Two of those indicted are Rabbi Naftali Tzi Weisz, 59, the Grand Rabbi of
Spinka, a Brooklyn-based Chasidic sect, whose yeshiva is in this
undistinguished building, and his gabbai (assistant), Moshe Zigelman, 60.

Weisz is just one of a number of Grand Rebbes of Spinka, a Chasidic sect
that originated in Romania in the 19th century. He is the
great-great-grandson of the founding rabbi, and one of about a dozen Grand
Spinka Rebbes who live in Boro Park or Williamsburg, in Brooklyn, or Bnei
Brak and Jerusalem in Israel.

Four Los Angeles men were among those charged with taking part in the
scheme: Yaacov (Yankel) Zeivald, 43, a self-described scribe (sofer) from
Valley Village (photo, right); Yosef Nachum Naiman, 55, the owner of Shatz
Et Naiman, d.b.a. Jerusalem Tours; Alan Jay Friedman, 43, a businessman from
Pico-Robertson who sits on the board of the Orthodox Union; and Moshe Lazar,
60, owner of Lazar Diamonds, a Los Angeles jewelry company.

Although many of the details of the case have not yet been revealed -- a
trial date is set for Feb. 12, but the defendants' lawyers say it will be
postponed at least a year -- what is emerging from the indictment, the
search warrant and other documents of public record is a complex
money-laundering scheme. According to the documents, people donated money to
the Spinka institutions but then received 80 percent to 95 percent of their
donations back, yet wrote off the full amount on their taxes.

These charges are just the beginning of a much larger case, Daniel J.
O'Brien, an assistant U.S. attorney in the major frauds section, based in
Los Angeles, said in an interview with The Journal.

"There were many other people that contributed in this fashion that would be
the subject of government investigations," O'Brien said.

While O'Brien said he has documentation that the Spinka institutions took in
about $750,000 through the scheme -- then writing receipts for $8.7
million -- in 2007 alone, the assistant U.S. attorney believes the fraud has
been going on for decades: "I believe this goes on beyond living memory,"
possibly for generations.

This is certainly not the first time an ultra-Orthodox sect has been accused
of attempting to break the laws of the secular government -- aramos, or
schemes, were perpetrated over the centuries in the shtetls of Europe. In
the last decade, arrests have occurred in religious communities in Brooklyn,
Lakewood, N.J., and upstate New York.

However, this particular case has shocked Los Angeles' ultra-Orthodox
community, not only because Los Angeles had largely been exempt from such
cases in the past, but also because some of the city's prominent members
have been charged as being at the center of the scheme.

As a result, the case has sparked a fierce debate about the type of behavior
that is acceptable for observant people and what type of religious community
Los Angeles would like to be. But there's also debate about the laws of a
moser, an informant, because one person who was not charged was the primary
source of information for the federal case -- though he allegedly started
out as one of the perpetrators.



THE BEGINNING

On June 29, 2004, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission filed civil
fraud charges against Robert A. Kasirer and four executives of Heritage
Healthcare of America, which sold $131 million in bonds to 1,800 investors
in 36 states from 1996-1999, claiming that the money would be used to fund
10 health care facilities. In October of that year, Kasirer approached the
federal government and "expressed a desire to plead guilty to criminal
charges arising out of the investigation and agreed to reveal other criminal
conduct he and others had committed, with a view that any sentence he might
receive would be reduced," according to an affidavit for a search warrant
submitted by FBI Special Agent Ryan Heaton on Dec. 18, 2007.

Although the search warrant affidavit identifies Kasirer only as
"confidential witness (CW-1)" and the recent grand jury indictment refers to
a witness named only as RK, the companies in the affidavit attributed to
CW-1 and RK are run by Kasirer, and several members of the Los Angeles
community, who asked for confidentiality, have confirmed his involvement.

In 2004, under federal surveillance, the informant identified in the
transcript as CW-1 resumed activities he admitted to having conducted with
the Spinka since 1990, in which "he caused several million dollars in
contributions to be mailed to the tax-exempt organizations operating within
the umbrella of Spinka," he is quoted in federal documents as having told
the FBI.

As part of the scam, Weisz and Zigelman allegedly would return 80 to 95
percent of Kasirer's contributions.

On Oct. 31, 2007, the SEC issued a final judgment against Kasirer, ordering
him to pay $4,991,434.

"Kasirer consented to the entry of the final judgment without admitting or
denying the allegations contained in the commission's case," according to
the SEC enforcement proceedings.

In the interim, according to the transcripts, Kasirer began to wear a device
to record his interactions for the government. On Dec. 20, 2004, he told
Zigelman, the Spinka rebbe's gabbai, that he never intended to pay the SEC.

According to the wiretapped transcripts, Kasirer told Zigelman: "The SEC
investigation is done. But they want me to pay them a lot of money."

"How much?" Zigelman asked.

"Possibly one, one and a half," Kasirer said.

"Million?" Zigelman asked.

Kasirer confirmed the amount and said he had told the SEC he didn't have the
money. In the transcript, Kasirer then went on to say that he'd lied to the
SEC, and that, in fact he had the money but wanted to hide that fact.

"What is SEC?" Zigelman asked.

Kasirer explained, and Zigelman replied, "Yes, yes, but you don't have to
give it to them."

For the next three years, Kasirer recorded conversations with targets of the
government investigation, and, using government funds, conducted a dozen
monetary transactions with Zigelman, according to transcripts of
conversations conducted in English, Hebrew, Yiddish and Hungarian. The
government also tapped the phones of Zigelman and Weisz.



CASH OR CHARGE?

For Kasirer, there were two ways the operation worked: At first he
reportedly received his "donations" back in cash, and when he became
uncomfortable with the large cash amounts floating around, he set up an
Israeli account.

According to the transcripts, Kasirer's money was allegedly refunded to him
by various men, all now defendants in the case: Naiman, Zeivald, Friedman
and Lazar, all of whom have pleaded not guilty to the charges against them.

Among the transactions in the transcripts, for example, was one on Feb. 8,
2007. Kasirer FedEx-ed a check for $20,000 made out to Yeshiva Imrei Yosef
to Zigelman. On Feb. 15, 2007, Lazar delivered $18,600 to Kasirer's house.
On Feb. 22, 2007, Kasirer got a letter in the mail on a Yeshiva Imrei Yosef
Spinka letterhead thanking Kasirer for his $20,000 donation to a tax-exempt
organization, saying the "donation" was entirely tax deductible and Kasirer
had received no "goods" or "services" in exchange for the contribution.

The Spinka Yeshiva charged Kasirer up to 7.5 percent for laundering the
money, which was a cause for some dispute, according to the wiretaps.

On Dec. 16, 2005, Kasirer told Joseph Roth, an assistant manager at Bank
Mizrahi -- which is based in Israel but has a branch in Los Angeles -- to
set up a new account so he could move money internationally.

On Jan. 12, 2006, Tel Aviv lawyer Jacob Kantor -- the only one of those
named in the indictment who is still at large -- is reported in the
transcripts offering to Kasirer to create documents to incorporate a company
called Bedford Holdings & Investments, which would be "held in confidence by
the bank and can only be disclosed after a complicated procedure by the Bank
of Israel, if there is evidence that the monies resulted from criminal
activities, such as drugs -- tax matters are not an issue." Much like
Switzerland, Israel has laws that protect investors, and the country does
not investigate monetary origins, even on suspicion of tax fraud.

"So, we wanted to basically set everything up the same way as it was
before," Kasirer told Roth in the affidavit transcripts. Later in the
document, he tells Zigelman that Kantor set up a trust in Israel so that
nothing would be left in Kasirer's name in order to hide his money from the
SEC. Then he'd take a loan from the Los Angeles branch of an unnamed Israeli
bank, "so I can use the money here." Later, he says in the affidavit, he
would take the money back from Israel and repay the loan here.

Mizrahi Bank, which is never named in the affidavit, is under investigation
by the federal government, according to Assistant U.S. Attorney O'Brien.

"We believe the bank offers this thing as a product to clients in the
U.S. -- the bank pitches this as a money-laundering product. I believe there
are multiple agents involved," O'Brien said, including Kantor.

The government also believes that there are many people like Kasirer, "who
occupy the same role as he did in this conspiracy," O'Brien said.

But Kasirer was not the creator of this conspiracy, according to the
government. His father -- the recently deceased Jacob (Yankel) Kasirer who
founded the Bais Yaakov School for Girls on Beverly Boulevard in Los Angeles
and is known as a "stalwart" of the Jewish community -- was involved with
the scheme. According to the transcripts, when Kasirer was discussing his
distress over his earlier money-laundering penalty with Lazar, the diamond
dealer said, "It's not something you started."

Kasirer replied, "I was really not aware of what he did with my father."

In addition, in a taped conversation, the Spinka Rebbe told Kasirer he
wanted to meet with his father.

"RK's father was engaged in this prior to RK being involved in it," O'Brien
said in an interview. "We believe that this has origins much earlier than
that -- beyond living memory."




CRIME IS NOT SO BAD

"There are a million ways that religious institutions defraud the
government," said one Brooklyn accountant who asked that his name be
withheld. However, it's not just the Jews, he claimed, "churches do the same
thing." Churches and synagogues are exempt from filing tax returns -- 
although many do -- and the government usually does not audit unless it has
probable cause. As a result, this can make fraud easier.

In the last decade or so, a number of Chasidic institutions on the East
Coast have been charged with such crimes, including the 1997 case against
the Skverer Hasidim in Rockland County, N.Y., where four men were found
guilty of defrauding the government of millions of dollars in federal Pell
Grants. But in the Orthodox community, many defended them, despite the
crime, because the money was used to support needy yeshiva students.

"Nobody here owns a yacht," a resident reportedly said, and the feeling
then -- as with many such institutional fraud cases -- that if the money is
used to help the community and not line someone's pockets, it's not so bad.

That, in fact, is a pervasive attitude these days in Brooklyn, where the
Spinka case raised fewer eyebrows than in Los Angeles, because the attitude
is everyone does something. This kind of discussion has been a hot topic on
many Internet blogs that discuss the ultra-Orthodox community.

"The government are thieves, what gives them the right to take 40 percent to
50 percent of someone's income? Anyone who can save yiddishe gelt from going
down that toilet is doing a mitzvah," one contributor wrote on the
Vosizneias (Yiddish for "What Is News?") blog.

The blog comments, though, seem to be about evenly divided between two
camps: On one hand are those castigating the government or the bloggers
posting the news for spreading gossip; on the other are those demanding that
the community finally put a stop to criminal behavior.

One particularly poignant plea came from New York white-collar defense
attorney Joel Cohen, in an essay published in 2006 titled, "Jewish Felons:
The Problem of Criminality in Observant Communities." Cohen described
witnessing a disturbing rise in crime among Orthodox and Chasidic Jews.

"The problem in the observant community, however, is not merely occasional,
nor does it often make headlines. Daily, in metropolises around the country,
yarmulka-wearing criminal defendants appear before the bar of justice," he
wrote.

Some prisons -- especially in New York, Los Angeles and Miami -- have daily
minyans, visiting rabbis, kosher food, classes and Shabbat meals, Cohen
wrote. "The most common charge is fraud: against businessmen and
run-of-the-mill citizens alike, most frequently involving victims outside of
the Jewish community, against the government, against insurance carriers,
against banking institutions, health care fraud, money-laundering and
stock-swindling."

Cohen pleads with his fellow Orthodox Jews to denounce the criminal
activity:

"Only with the open denouncement of wrongdoing from within the particular
observant community can the community hope to demonstrate and protect the
Torah's commitment to honesty in one's interpersonal dealings as being at
least equal to, if not greater than, its commitment to technical observance
of mitzvoth," he wrote



DON'T BLAME THE MESSENGER

But the most talked-about aspect of the case -- both among bloggers and at
Shabbat tables on both coasts -- has been the involvement of Kasirer. From
the start, most here guessed accurately who he was -- an informant who
turned state's evidence to save his own skin -- but what they wanted to know
was what was he? Was he a moser -- an informer, who, according to
traditional Jewish law, must be killed for turning against a Jew and is
denied access to "the world to come."

The Talmud forbids a Jew to inform on another Jew to a secular government,
even if that Jew violated both secular and Jewish law.

Today, among poskim -- Orthodox rabbinic deciders -- there is a debate over
whether a Jew may turn in another Jew in a democratic state. Some rabbis say
that laws of moser do not hold in the United States because they were
established to protect Jews from corrupt and anti-Semitic governments that
would likely torture and give Jews worse treatment than other prisoners than
merited by Jewish law.

This is not the case today in a democracy, they say. "These rules apply only
to one who informs on another to bandits and so endangers that person's
money and life, as these bandits chase after a person's body and money, and
thus one may use deadly force to save oneself," it is written in the Aruch
Hashulchan, ("Laying the Table," a book about Jewish law written in the late
19th century).

But many insist that the laws of moser do apply today, and that it is
forbidden by Jewish law for one Jew to inform on another to any secular
government.

Rabbi Ezra Batzri in "Dinnai Mamonut" ("Laws of Money") says informing is
prohibited. "All rules of informing are applicable even currently .... Even
if they bring all matter to court, it is clear that, through interrogation
and the police, government can destroy people, and in many places they do,
in fact, destroy people."

Some rabbis say you cannot be a moser, even in America, except when the
person doing the questionable act may be a danger to others -- a child
molester, a rapist, a murderer. In those cases, it would be "permitted" to
inform the authorities, writes Rabbi Hershel Schacther, a top posek. Which
means that in the case of financial wrongdoings, a Jew is not allowed to
inform on another Jew.

When the Spinka case broke, the Rabbinical Council of California (RCC)
discussed the informant issue, RCC President Rabbi Meyer May said. But the
council decided to let other halachic authorities deal with the question.

"There is no way to explain how perfidious what RK did is. He violated the
spirit of Jewish law," May said. "Having said that, it doesn't justify what
was done on the other side [by the defendants]."

Although many were focusing on the moser and other justifications like
"everybody does it" and "we pay more taxes than everyone else," that is
beside the point, May said. The point, he continued, is to own up to any
wrongdoings. "Our business is the integrity [of the individual]," he said.
"Something which is wrong is wrong."

Still, others, like lawyer and blog commentator Cohen, argue that it is
precisely such concern about laws like that of moser -- which forbid a Jew
to turn in another Jew to authorities, and chilul Hashem, desecrating God's
name in public, which has created an atmosphere were people are more
concerned with protecting their own than following the laws of the U.S.
government.

"To ignore crime within our ranks does us a great disservice, both because
it weakens us as a community and because tolerating it suggests to the
outside world that Judaism does not promote a righteous moral compass,"
Cohen wrote.



BUSINESS AS USUAL

On Monday morning, Dec. 31, the streets of downtown Los Angeles were eerily
empty; nearly everyone had left town. But the Roybal Federal Courthouse was
open, and by 8:30 a.m. there were enough Chasidic men in the third-floor
corridor for a minyan: 11 -- not to mention a few clean-shaven men wearing
black yarmulkes -- all waiting for the morning's arraignment hearings to
begin.

Grand Spinka Rebbe Weisz didn't converse much with his gabbai Zigelman. The
men pored over Hebrew books -- either studying holy texts or reciting
psalms -- and intermittently conversed with the lawyers. It would be an hour
until the court would open and another until their own hearing would begin.

Everyone was anxious for the hearing to start -- not because of the upcoming
secular New Year, which the ultra-Orthodox do not celebrate -- but so that
they could return to their homes and to their lives in Brooklyn.

The seven men had been arrested and jailed on Dec. 19, a Wednesday, and most
were released before Shabbat.

Weisz and Zeligman had spent another Shabbat in Los Angeles, detained until
the arraignment. The Spinka Rebbe attended Rabbi Chaim Boruch Rubin's
synagogue in Hancock Park -- which itself is entangled in a legal battle
over land use -- and was given the honor of leading services. At this, a few
men walked out in protest.

"As a parent in the community and as a rabbi in the community, since there
were children in the room and since we have an obligation to teach our
children right and wrong," one person who left quietly said later. "I have
no problem [with the Spinka Rebbe] sitting in the front in his normal
[honored] seat," but the man who walked out said he would have preferred
"one stage less than normal" to show children "that it's not business as
usual."

When the court opened for the hearing, most of the defendants and their
supporters filed into the first row of the courtroom, except for the
clean-shaven Friedman, who sat in the back, a few seats away from Zeivald,
who was accompanied by an Israeli translator.

A Yiddish translator sat next to the Spinka Rebbe, and only Roth, the
Israeli banker, came from the entrance behind a glass partition, clad in
green prison outfit. He was the only one not yet released on bail, at the
time, because the government said he was believed to pose a flight risk.
Roth remains in custody.

Finally, their turn arrived. The seven filed up front, each with his
separate lawyers. (Famed lawyer Donald Etra, who was originally retained to
defend Weisz, was by then no longer on the case). They each declined to have
the charges read to them.

"How do you plead?" Magistrate Judge Alicia G. Rosenberg asked.

One by one, Weisz, Zigelman, Naiman, Zievald, Friedman, Lazar and Roth each
said: "Not guilty."

By 11 a.m., they filed out of the courtroom.

By Shabbat, Jan. 4, the Grand Spinka Rebbe was back in Boro Park to lead his
congregation. He's free on $2 million bail, allowed to travel for work in
New York and New Jersey, and of course, to California, where he and
Zigelman, among others, await trial.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinka_financial_controversy

This is similar to the TAX FRAUD involving Ken McVay & B'nai Brith!!




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The poster using Arthur Franks is a fraud, and a homosexual pervert [me].
I sometimes use "Grosvenor of Canada" or often I use many
fraudulent names.
Garbage like me, Frank Arthur causes distrust among readers here.

I am the legitimate Frank Arthur and I did not post to this newsgroup.
The pervert who used my name is a person of no honor.
Since I am insane, I say that I am not posting, even when I do.

The way to know if I am the legitimate Frank Arthur it will show
on the gray tab [which only I can see] :
Organization: BellSouth Internet Group

Many people think that I am really gay Ken McVay, hehehe


"ArthurFranks"  wrote in message
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> >On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 11:14:11 -0400, "Frank Arthur" 
> >wrote:

>>>The poster using Frank Arthur IS a fraud.


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News report another crash involving another Bumbardier plane - this time 
in Albania.

So far there are no deaths reported from the defective Bombardier Canada
airplane crashes.

Will the flight YOU take be the one where YOU and others get killed?

AVOID FLYING ON BOMBARDIER aircraft, and tell your friends likewise.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7089318.stm

Emirates orders 82 Airbus planes

The latest Emirates deal is worth more than $20bn for Airbus
Emirates has ordered 82 Airbus jets, in a deal worth more than $20bn
(£9.6bn) for the European plane-maker.

The Dubai-based airline is buying 70 of Airbus' mid-sized A350 model,
and 11 Airbus A380 twin-deck super jumbos.

Announced at the start of the Dubai air show, Emirates said the new
planes would play "an important role" in the growth of both the
airline and Dubai.

Emirates added that it also had the option to purchase a further 50
A350 aircraft at a future date.

Rolls-Royce deal

If this additional order goes ahead, the final deal will be worth
about $32bn for Airbus.


Emirates airlines is placing great faith in our A350 XWB and A380
programmes as well as our company and we are rightfully proud
Airbus boss Tom Enders

The latest contract win for Airbus was also good news for British
engine-maker Rolls-Royce, as Emirates has chosen its units to power
the new planes.

It will be worth up to $8.4bn for Rolls-Royce if Emirates does go on
to buy the additional 50 A350 planes.

"Emirates airlines is placing great faith in our A350 XWB and A380
programmes as well as our company and we are rightfully proud," said
Airbus president and chief executive Tom Enders.

The order is welcome good news for Airbus parent group EADS.

Last week EADS warned it may have to deepen planned restructuring and
job cuts after its losses for the July to September period worsened to
775m euros ($1.14bn; £541m), compared with 189m euros last year.

It already plans to cut 10,000 jobs at Airbus over the next four
years.

Airbus designs and makes its wings in the UK.


>The news stories below about Quantas seem to be dated January 2002.

>All the crashes caused by defective landing gear on the Bombardier Q400, 
are
>being reported in the past few weeks - in other words NOW!!

>When all of Europe is dumping the Bombardier Q400, and suing Bombardier 
for
>many billions, there is definitely something wrong with Bombardier!

>As well, the media report that there are at least another 2 crashes in 
Japan
>with the Bombardier Q400 this year.


>Now, the European Safety Agency is demanding a "crisis meeting" with 
Canadian
>officials, to discuss the risks to European travellers caused by the 
defective
>Bombardier junk!!  In a publicly issued statement, ESA promised to "take 
all
>measures to ensure the safety of European passengers and citizens".

>Competitors of Bumbardier, such as EMBRAER, BAC, and the US firms, must 
really
>be having a field day, now that they can tell potential buyers about all 
the
>crashes with Bombardier!!



>>On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:21:24 -0400, "Paul"  wrote:
>>>"Craig Welch"  wrote in message
>>>news:05tci3p2r6alippljpsofvojef7csddj21@4ax.com...
>>>> Ned Kelly  said:

>>>>>As well the European Union are saying that most European airlines are 
now
>>>>>going to return all the Bombardier aircraft, following a number of 
crashes in
>>>>>the past few weeks, costing many airlines untold millions in damages 
due
>>>>>tounsafe Bombardier aircraft. Mind you airlines such as Horizon Air 
and
>>>>>Quantasstill are flying Bombardier aircraft.

>>>> There are no Quantas Bombardier aircraft.

>>>> Craig                           http://www.wazu.jp/
>>>> 1,239 Unicode fonts for 82 written language groups:
>>>> Price your own web plan: http://www.wazu.jp/hosting/
>>>I believe you are incorrect.

>>>http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb3078/is_200201/ai_n7819747

>>>http://www.smartmoney.com/news/on/index.cfm?story=ON-20071022-000552-
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Australian Jewry Still Trying To Shut Dr. Toben Down.

On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 21:53:49 -0500, in alt.revisionism "127.0.0.1"
<127.0.0.1@127.0.0.1> wrote:

December 03, 2006 12:15am

A RACE-HATE website operating from Adelaide has sparked a furious reaction
>from Australia's top Jewish body.
The Executive Council of Australian Jewry is considering further legal
action against Dr Fredrick Toben, 62, from Wattle Park, who runs the
Adelaide Institute website. 

Dr Toben was the subject of a Federal Court directive in 2002 preventing the
publication of material that vilified Jews.

Despite the court ordering him to remove such material from his website,
anti-Jewish articles are still accessible from the site. 

The Executive Council of the Australian Jewry says the statements made on
the website contravene the Racial Discrimination Act.

Council past president, Jeremy Jones, says the organisation is now
considering legal action.

The move follows a national report finding that physical attacks against
Jews have reached a record high. 

The report, released by the Executive Council of Australian Jewry,
identifies 156 physical attacks against Jews in the year to the end of
September. The data, which has been collected on a national level since
1989, chronicled other attacks including arson, threats ? via posters,
leaflets, email, telephone or sms ? and vandalism.

In the 12-month period, there were 442 attacks.

Dr Toben's website was also flagged in the report.

"It is an ongoing concern and we are actively considering all options open
to us," Mr Jones said.

The 2002 ruling found that the website had published material which implied
some Jews had exaggerated Jewish deaths in World War II for financial gain.

While Dr Toben has since published a disclaimer on his site outlining the
court-imposed restrictions, Mr Jones says the website's content is still an
issue.

"There has been quite a lot of anti-Jewish material published on that site,"
he said. "Not exactly the same wording but the same kind of material." The
website contains links to an array of anti-Semitic material including:

ARTICLES which question whether the Holocaust actually occurred.

CLAIMS that the death toll from the Holocaust has been exaggerated.

LINKS to another website blaming Jews for some of the biggest crimes in the
past century, including the 1999 Columbine High School massacre where 12
students were killed, the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing which killed 168
people and the September 11 terrorist attacks.

"The internet gives everybody a megaphone and a potential international
audience," Mr Jones said.

"And if one person ? who would otherwise have had no reason to dislike
another human being ? forms negative opinions because of something put on a
website, the racist might be quite happy but all the rest of us have reason
to be concerned," he said.

It is understood Dr Toben is overseas and he could not be reached for
comment.
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,20861261-2682,00.html

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


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Subject: Kosher Nostra by ZYDS
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Kosher Nostra

On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 10:26:12 +0100, in soc.culture.polish "mkarwan"
 wrote:

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosher_Nostra

On 30 Mar 2007 23:27:30 -0700, in can.politics "Antigone"
 wrote:

The media bosses who cover up heinous crimes committed by
fellow members of their tribe are the most evil of all. It
is an absolute DISASTER having a criminalistic ethnic gang,
called La Kosher Nostra by some, run the mass media in the
U.S. and other Western countries.

		~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
In the past I've talked about the breakdown of law and order in Russia
in the wake of communist rule. The communists -- which is to say, the
Jews -- sucked the country dry and then headed for greener pastures.
At least most of them did. Some Jews stayed behind to squeeze still
more blood out of the Russian people. In several reports we've looked
at the trade in White sex slaves centered in Israel. Jewish organized
crime gangs kidnap Russian and Ukrainian girls -- or in some cases
lure them to Israel with the promise of employment as secretaries or
housekeepers or nannies -- and then force them to work as sex slaves
in Jewish brothels.

Other Jewish crime gangs in Russia exploit Russian children for the
pedophile market around the world. I reported on October 7, 2000, the
breakup of a child pornography ring operating from Moscow and selling
videos of Russian children, some of them only two or three years old,
being raped, sexually tortured, and even murdered. There actually are
perverts who obtain sexual gratification from viewing such horrors,
and child pornography is big business. The child-porn videos coming
>from Moscow sell for hundreds or even thousands of dollars to
pedophiles in the West. The pornographers in Moscow obtain children
>from Russian orphanages by bribing corrupt administrators at the
orphanages, or they simply kidnap them from public parks or
playgrounds. My report of October 7, 2000, was based on the breakup of
one child-porn operation in Moscow after an investigation by Italian
police and postal officials of the shipment of videos from Russia to
pedophiles in Italy. In that report I quoted from a Reuters news
dispatch datelined Naples, Italy, September 27. I'll read you again
what I quoted in my report:

"Police said on Wednesday they had arrested eight Italians suspected
of belonging to a child-pornography ring that traded videos over the
Internet, including films of Russian children who were abused to
death. Police specializing in Internet crime told reporters that their
19-month investigation had given them enough information to begin
investigations into 1,700 people suspected of buying the material over
the Web. . . . They said three people in Moscow ran an operation to
kidnap children from orphanages, circuses, and public parks and film
them while they were forced to commit sexual acts. Police said they
had intercepted some 3,000 tapes and CDs and digital video discs of
child pornography, including some involving children only several
months old." -- end of quote --

These arrests were big news in Italy, where TV newsmen horrified
millions of Italians by broadcasting excerpts from of a couple of the
child-porn videos on a prime-time national television news program. I
reported that the newsmen responsible for the broadcast were
immediately fired by the news director of the government-run network,
Gad Lerner, a Jew, who obviously was very unhappy that the news had
gotten out.

Perverts in the United States also buy child-porn videos from Russia,
and I commented in my report of October 7, 2000, that in the United
States there was practically a media blackout on the Italian
investigation and the subsequent arrests in Italy and in Russia. But
there was an Associated Press release on September 29, two days after
the arrests. I'll quote a few lines from that release:

". . . [P]olice said they had broken up an online international child-
pornography ring, arrested eight Italians and three Russians, and
seized thousands of videos and photographs. The Russian-run ring,
which distributed an explicit catalog on the Internet, catered to
clients in the United States, Germany, and Italy. Its inventory
included films of children being tortured and killed. . . .
Investigators say the pornography ring produces and distributes images
showing children as young as two years old being sexually abused. Some
of the victims reportedly were stolen from orphanages, others from
families. Its catalog offers films of killings for about $20,000 and
images of people having sex with children for about half that." -- end
quote -- That Associated Press release from September 29, 2000, was
virtually ignored by news media in the United States.

Then on January 4 of last year a man described by Federal authorities
as the U.S. West Coast distributor for a child-pornography ring
operating in Moscow was arrested in Walnut Creek, California. That was
Seth Bekenstein, a Jew. And at the time I thought, "At last! Now the
media cannot avoid reporting this filthy business to the American
people. There will be a hearing and a trial for Bekenstein, and the
whole story will come out."

But of course, the story didn't come out. The mass media did avoid
reporting anything about Bekenstein's arrest or his trial. Even the
big newspapers in California were silent. The American public remained
completely ignorant of the whole business.

Do you understand what Bekenstein was doing? He was selling films to
thousands of American perverts that showed Russian children and
infants being raped, sexually tortured, and murdered. He was a part of
the operation that kidnapped, raped, sexually tortured, and murdered
these Russian children. Without people like Bekenstein to sell the
films, the business couldn't have operated. He was placing wholesale
orders to Moscow for more films, new films, and wiring the money that
kept the operation going. He was as guilty as the people who actually
did the kidnapping, raping, torture, and murder.

Well, last month, on January 4, exactly a year after his arrest, Seth
Bekenstein, who has been out of jail on bond the whole time, was
sentenced to 18 months imprisonment after pleading guilty. That's just
18 months for being a major part of an operation involving the most
horrific criminal activity imaginable -- 18 months for raping,
torturing, and murdering hundreds of  children for the gratification
of unspeakably perverted freaks. And there still hasn't been a peep
about Bekenstein or the child-pornography operation in which he was
engaged in any major media outlets in the United States. So far as the
TV-watching public is concerned it never happened.

Imagine how differently the Bekenstein case would have been handled by
the courts if the Jews had decided that it served their interests to
make a cause celebre of it. Imagine what would have happened to
Bekenstein if the Jewish media had given him the 1998 Jasper, Texas,
treatment. Gruesome excerpts from the films he was peddling would be
shown on prime-time TV in America night after night. TV crews would
have interviewed some of Bekenstein's customers and had them tell
everyone how much they enjoyed seeing little girls or little boys
sexually tortured. There would have been tearful interviews with the
Russian parents of some of the kidnapped children. The Jews would have
kept this up week after week and month after month, until the lemmings
all across America finally had gotten it and were screaming for
Bekenstein's blood.

And, behold!, the Federal prosecutor would have seen the light and
realized that Bekenstein had not only violated a law against sending
child porn through the mail, he also was guilty of kidnapping, rape,
and murder. And the judge would have seen the light too. And
Bekenstein would be sitting on death row now, hoping that the other
inmates didn't get their hands on him before he got his lethal
injection.

But the Jewish media bosses had no interest in punishing their fellow
tribesman for his exploitation of Russian children. After all, the
children were only Gentiles, only goyim. And their fellow tribesmen in
Israel were making a very good living in the sex-slave trade,
exploiting the older sisters of these Russian children. Why stir
things up? And they didn't even have to tell the prosecutor and the
judge in the Bekenstein case to take it easy on Seth. The court system
already has become so corrupted in America that the prosecutor and the
judge understood without being told that they shouldn't be too hard on
Bekenstein. And now this depraved monster will be back in business
again in a few months.

I'll sum it up for you: our whole system of laws and government in
America has become media-driven. Until we drag the filthy creatures
controlling the mass media of news and entertainment out of their
offices and drive stakes through their hearts, the system will only
become more and more corrupt.
For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


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Falsification of the Holocaust = HOLOHOAX  according to  internationally
highly respected Prof. Israel Shahak,

On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 00:38:32 GMT, in soc.culture.german "Salah Jafar"
 wrote:

Falsification of the Holocaust

Letter to the editor by Prof. Israel Shahak,
published on 19 May 1989 in Kol Ha'ir, Jerusalem. Available online at:
http://www.kaiwan.com/codoh/newsdesk/890519.HTML

     I disagree with the opinion of Haim Baram that the Israeli education
system has managed to instil a "Holocaust awareness" in its pupils (Kol Ha'Ir
12.5.89).  It's not an awareness of the Holocaust but rather the myth of the
Holocaust or even a falsification of the Holocaust (in the sense that "a
half-truth is worse than a lie") which has been instilled here.
    As one who himself lived through the Holocaust, first in Warsaw then in
Bergen-Belsen, I will give an immediate example of the total ignorance of
daily life during the Holocaust.  In the Warsaw ghetto, even during the period
of the first massive extermination (June to October 1943), one saw almost no
German soldiers.  Nearly all the work of administration, and later the work of
transporting hundreds of thousands of Jews to their deaths, was carried out by
Jewish collaborators.  Before the outbreak of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising (the
planning of which only started after the extermination of the majority of Jews
in Warsaw), the Jewish underground killed, with perfect justification, every
Jewish collaborator they could find.  If they had not done so the Uprising
could never have started.  The majority of the population of the Ghetto hated
the collaborators far more than the German Nazis.  Every Jewish child was
taught, and this saved the lives of some of them "if you enter a square
>from which there are three exits, one guarded by a German SS man, one by an
Ukrainian and one by a Jewish policeman, then you should first try to pass the
German, and then maybe the Ukrainian, but never the Jew".
    One of my own strongest memories is that, when the Jewish underground
killed a despicable collaborator close to my home at the end of February 1943,
I danced and sang around the still bleeding corpse together with the other
children.  I still do not regret this, quite the contrary.
    It is clear that such events were not exclusive to the Jews, the entire
Nazi success in easy and continued rule over millions of people stemmed from
the subtle and diabolical use of collaborators, who did most of the dirty work
for them.  But does anybody now know about this?  This, and not what is
"instilled" was the reality.  Of the Yad Vashem (official state Holocaust
museum in Jerusalem - Ed.) theatre, I do not wish to speak at all.  It, and
its vile exploiting, such as honouring South Africa collaborators with the
Nazis are truly beneath contempt.
    Therefore, if we knew a little of the truth about the Holocaust, we would
at least understand (with or without agreeing) why the Palestinians are now
eliminating their collaborators.  That is the only means they have if they
wish to continue to struggle against our limb-breaking regime.

Kind regards,

[Israel Shahak]


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website 
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION 
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - 
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the 
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


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Exposing the Holocaust--REVISIONIST HERESY = TRUTH!

On 12 Nov 2006 18:40:03 -0800, in alt.revisionism "hoaxbuster@earthlink.net"
 wrote:

REVISIONIST HERESY

Just as there were no weapons of mass destruction (WMD) in Iraq prior
to the recent war-no Jews or gentiles were ever killed in gas
chambers or gas vans by the Nazis during World War 2. The
"intelligence experts" and "scholars" were and are wrong.
Whatever crimes and atrocities the Nazis and Hitler did commit, they
certainly did not include gassings of Jews nor anyone else. The
historians have blindly accepted the wildest pseudo-scientific nonsense
imaginable.

The Jews were still alive

The simplest reason for rejecting the Holocaust story is that the vast
majority of European Jews were still alive at the end of World War 2.
Professor Arthur Butz, the author of The Hoax of the Twentieth Century,
made this claim nearly thirty years ago-and he was absolutely correct
as the following quote from a credible, recent Jewish source shows.

The Jewish Week 11-28-2003
http://www.thejewishweek.com/news/newscontent.php3?artid=8774&offset
=10&B1=1&author=Stewart%20Ain&issuedates=oneday&month=&day=&year
=&issuedate=20031128&keyword=
"Two new studies to determine the location of Jewish Holocaust
survivors, for use in making future allocations to the most needy,
differ widely on the number of survivors worldwide, The Jewish Week has
learned. Sergio Della Pergola, a demographer for the Institute of
Contemporary Jewry at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, found
1,092,000 survivors worldwide. Jacob Ukeles, a policy researcher in
Manhattan, found 688,000. The Ukeles survey, an update of one he
prepared in 2000 for the Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against
Germany, found only minor differences from his previous effort.
Lawrence Eagleburger, chairman of the International Commission on
Holocaust Era Insurance Claims, commissioned both surveys. Eagleburger
had hoped to use the figures in determining how to distribute $13.2
million annually in humanitarian funds for needy survivors worldwide."

Clearly, the numbers of "Jewish holocaust survivors" alive more
than fifty-five years after the war are so enormous that one must
surely wonder if any Jews at all perished in World War 2. Any
conservative and reasonable statistical analysis of population decline
over fifty-five years would surely conclude that there were more than
six million Jewish "holocaust survivors" alive at the end of the
war. No doubt, some innocent Jews were killed-but, there is no good
reason to believe Jewish deaths were statistically unusual for a long,
horrific war in which many tens of millions of innocent civilians were
killed of all nationalities. On the basis of numbers alone-the
generally accepted story is a monumental hoax. The continued worldwide
acceptance of that hoax, even in Germany, is a tribute to the enormous
power and influence of the supposed victms and the Jewish community in
general. The uniqueness of the alleged mass gassings has also appealed
to the darker side of the human imagination and gullibility.

The hoax has become a new religion which one must believe without
question or be condemned as "evil"-even imprisoned as in Germany
or Austria, and ruined as well. "Guilt for the holocaust" has come
to replace "original sin" for which all except the jewish victims
themselves must "bear responsibility."

Friedrich Paul Berg
Learn everything at www.nazigassings.com
The "holocaust" is racist hate propaganda.  
Nazi Gassings Never Happened!


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From: Mirelle 

Re: Edward M. Rosen, 400 Glendale Rd. #24E, Haverton, PA 19083,
SSN: 186-44-1491,
Date Of Birth: June-17-1953,

For Anyone Who Wants To Report His Tax Evasions To The Federal Governemat 
Of The USA,
By Getting Kick Backs For Bumping People Up On Medical Waiting Lists

Or, perhaps useful info for ??

On Nov 5, 3:04 pm, "ElParedon"  wrote:
>  Send me the info Mirelle, I have a friend who is investigator, gets
> commission when he catches someone like him

Thieves like Edward Rosen, need to be stopped from stealing money not
only from the Federal Government, by tax evasion, also, stealing money
>from sick people who are so desperate they give money to shysters like
him in order to be bumped up on medical waiting lists!
Heck, I may as well give you the info now:

Edward M. Rosen, 400 Glendale Rd. #24E, Haverton, PA 19083,
SSN: 186-44-1491,
Date Of Birth: June-17-1953

For Anyone Who Wants To Report His Tax Evasions
To The Federal Governemat Of The USA, By Getting Kick Backs
For Bumping People Up On Medical Waiting Lists

Mirelle
> "Mirelle"  wrote in message

> news:1194237005.040207.32820@v3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...

> > On Nov 4, 4:52 pm, Rosen the Chosen  wrote:
> >> On Nov 4, 7:42 pm, Mirelle  wrote:
> >> > >> The fact is that you made the effort, and for what purpose

> >> > The purpose was to give the good folks who are paying taxes your info
> >> > - in case anyone wanted to report you to the Federal Government for
> >> > tax evasion.
> >> > For taking money on the side - to bump people up on medical waiting
> > > lists. Illegal thing to do, eddie-boi.

> >> No

> > Yes.
> > It is illegal to not pay taxes on all income.
> > I may have to post your info again, you are such a thief!
> > Stealing money from the Federal Government, someone may actually turn
> > you in for it, now THAT would make you stop taking all the illegal, no
> > taxes paid on it - bribe money, for bumping people up on medical
> > waiting lists!
> > On top of it being illegal for tax evasion purposes, it is unethical,
> > since no one should get better health care just because they have the
> > money to bribe shysters like you!

> > Mirelle

>  Send me the info Mirelle, I have a friend who is investigator, gets
> commission when he catches someone like him



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Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
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From: Mirelle 

Re: Edward M. Rosen, 400 Glendale Rd. #24E, Haverton, PA 19083,
SSN: 186-44-1491, 
Date Of Birth: June-17-1953, 

For Anyone Who Wants To Report His Tax Evasions To The Federal Governemat Of
The USA, and IRS, By Getting Kick Backs For Bumping People Up On Medical
Waitiing Lists

Or, perhaps useful info for ??

On Nov 5, 3:04 pm, "ElParedon"  wrote:
>  Send me the info Mirelle, I have a friend who is investigator, gets
> commission when he catches someone like him

Thieves like Edward Rosen, need to be stopped from stealing money not
only from the Federal Government, by tax evasion, also, stealing money
>from sick people who are so desperate they give money to shysters like
him in order to be bumped up on medical waiting lists!
Heck, I may as well give you the info now:

Edward M. Rosen, 400 Glendale Rd. #24E, Haverton, PA 19083,
SSN: 186-44-1491, 
Date Of Birth: June-17-1953

For Anyone Who Wants To Report His Tax Evasions
To The Federal Governemat Of The USA, By Getting Kick Backs
For Bumping People Up On Medical Waiting Lists

Mirelle
> "Mirelle"  wrote in message

> news:1194237005.040207.32820@v3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...

> > On Nov 4, 4:52 pm, Rosen the Chosen  wrote:
> >> On Nov 4, 7:42 pm, Mirelle  wrote:
> >> > >> The fact is that you made the effort, and for what purpose

> >> > The purpose was to give the good folks who are paying taxes your info
> >> > - in case anyone wanted to report you to the Federal Government for
> >> > tax evasion.
> >> > For taking money on the side - to bump people up on medical waiting
> > > lists. Illegal thing to do, eddie-boi.

> >> No

> > Yes.
> > It is illegal to not pay taxes on all income.
> > I may have to post your info again, you are such a thief!
> > Stealing money from the Federal Government, someone may actually turn
> > you in for it, now THAT would make you stop taking all the illegal, no
> > taxes paid on it - bribe money, for bumping people up on medical
> > waiting lists!
> > On top of it being illegal for tax evasion purposes, it is unethical,
> > since no one should get better health care just because they have the
> > money to bribe shysters like you!

> > Mirelle

>  Send me the info Mirelle, I have a friend who is investigator, gets
> commission when he catches someone like him



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It seems that the Moscow fags want another beating lesson again, this year.

>From: kjmcva 
>Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,alt.talk.royalty
>Subject: Re: Jewish Poofters bashed in Moscow
>Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 10:01:28 -0700

>On 1 Jun., 13:05, Charlie Pie  wrote:
>> On May 28, 7:40 pm, "Binjamin Cram'er"  wrote:

>> > Just watched a news report on a bunch of poofters (huge number of whom are yids) 
>> > trying to get a "gay pride" (like there's any such thing) parade happening in Moscow.

>> > The locals were less than enthused with these nonces poncing around, trying to get 
>> >the Russians to lower their moral standards.

>> > Quite a few of the poofs copped a good ole fashioned smack in the chops from people 
>> > in the crowd. The singer from "Right Said Fred" was one who copped a beauty.

>> > I dislike violence of any type, however it is good to see that decency is still something 
>> > of value in Russia.

>> I though you were the lad from Right Said Fred ?
>> C.P.

>What a horrible man you are! Claiming violence and the use of
>democratic right to be decency!!! You should be ashame dof
>yourself!!!  Intolerant people were and are the curse of humanity!
>Absolutely digusting! And on top anti-jewish!  Were is the difference
>between you and Hitler ... the same kind of thinking!

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
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From: "Venceremos" 
Subject: ONCE AGAIN ZYD PLOTS A RUSSIAN REVOLUTION-Like 1917?

RUSSIA BEWARE, BORIS AND MOISHE ARE GOING FOR THE THROAT,again!

'I am plotting a new Russian revolution'

London exile ZYD Berezovsky says force necessary to bring down President
Putin

Ian Cobain and Matthew Taylor and Luke Harding in Moscow
Friday April 13, 2007
The Guardian

The Russian tycoon Boris Berezovsky has told the Guardian he is
plotting the violent overthrow of President Putin from his base in
Britain after forging close contacts with members of Russia's ruling
elite.

In comments which appear calculated to enrage the Kremlin, and which
will further inflame relations between London and Moscow, the
multimillionaire claimed he was already bankrolling people close to
the president who are conspiring to mount a palace coup.

"We need to use force to change this regime," he said. "It isn't
possible to change this regime through democratic means. There can be
no change without force, pressure." Asked if he was effectively
fomenting a revolution, he said: "You are absolutely correct."

Although Mr Berezovsky, with an estimated fortune of £850m, may have
the means to finance such a plot, and although he enjoyed enormous
political influence in Russia before being forced into exile, he said
he could not provide details to back up his claims because the
information was too sensitive.

Last night the Kremlin denounced Mr Berezovsky's comments as a
criminal offence which it believed should undermine his refugee status
in the UK.

Dmitry Peskov, the Kremlin's chief spokesman, said: "In accordance
with our legislation [his remarks are] being treated as a crime. It
will cause some questions from the British authorities to Mr
Berezovsky. We want to believe that official London will never grant
asylum to someone who wants to use force to change the regime in
Russia."

It will not be the first time the British government has faced
accusations from the Kremlin that it is providing a safe haven for Mr
Berezovsky. When he told a Moscow radio station last year that he
wanted to see Mr Putin overthrown by force, Jack Straw, then foreign
secretary, told the Commons that "advocating the violent overthrow of
a sovereign state is unacceptable" and warned the tycoon he could be
stripped of his refugee status.

Russian authorities subsequently sent an extradition request to
London. That failed, however, when a district judge ruled Mr
Berezovsky could not be extradited as long as he has asylum status.

In an interview with the Guardian, however, Mr Berezovsky goes much
further than before, claiming to be in close contact with members of
Russia's political elite who, he says, share his view that Mr Putin is
damaging Russia by rolling back democratic reforms, smothering
opposition, centralising power and flouting the country's
constitution.

"There is no chance of regime change through democratic elections," he
says. "If one part of the political elite disagrees with another part
of the political elite - that is the only way in Russia to change the
regime. I try to move that."

While declining to describe these contacts - and alleging that they
would be murdered if they were identified - he maintained that he was
offering his "experience and ideology" to members of the country's
political elite, as well as "my understanding of how it could be
done". He added: "There are also practical steps which I am doing now,
and mostly it is financial."

Mr Berezovsky said he was unconcerned by any threat to strip him of
his refugee status. "Straw wasn't in a position to take that decision.
A judge in court said it wasn't in the jurisdiction of Straw."

He added that there was even less chance of such a decision being
taken following the polonium-210 poisoning last November of his former
employee, Alexander Litvinenko. "Today the reality is different
because of the Litvinenko case."

Mr Berezovsky, 61, a former mathematician, turned to business during
the Yeltsin years and made his fortune by capturing state assets at
knockdown prices during Russia's rush towards privatisation.

Although he played a key role in ensuring Mr Putin's victory in the
2000 presidential elections, the two men fell out as the newly elected
leader successfully wrested control of Russia back from the so-called
oligarchy, the small group of tycoons who had come to dominate the
country's economy.

A few months after the election Mr Berezovsky fled Russia, and applied
successfully for asylum in the UK after Mr Litvinenko, an officer with
the KGB's successor, the FSB, came forward to say he had been ordered
to murder the tycoon.

Mr Berezovsky changed his name to Platon Elenin, Platon being the name
of a character in a Russian film based loosely upon his life. He was
subsequently given a British passport in this name.

As well as claiming to be financing and encouraging coup plotters in
Moscow, Mr Berezovsky said he had dedicated much of the last six years
to "trying to destroy the positive image of Putin" that many in the
west held, portraying him whenever possible as a dangerously anti-
democratic figure. He said he had also opposed the Russian president
through Kommersant, the influential Russian newspaper which he
controlled until last year.

Last month Mr Berezovsky was questioned by two detectives from the
Russian prosecutor general's office who were in London to investigate
the death of Mr Litvinenko. He has denied claims that he refused to
answer many of their questions.

Last night the Kremlin said Russian authorities might want to question
him again in the light of his interview with the Guardian. "I now
believe our prosecutor general's office has got lots of questions for
Mr Berezovsky," said Mr Peskov. He added: "His words are very
interesting. This is a very sensitive issue."

The Foreign Office said it had nothing to add to Mr Straw's comments
of last year.


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 23:54:04 GMT, in can.politics "Moishe Lipschitz"
 wrote:

http://www.theunjustmedia.com/jew%20organized%20crime.htm


For the real TRUTH about ZYDS, visit the world top-rated website 
for ZYDS= JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION 
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - 
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the 
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
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THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
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Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
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ZYD CRIMES IN RUSSIA  EXPOSED FOR ALL THE WORLD TO SEE
No wonder normal people hate the filthy Christkiller ZYDS, still after more
than 2000 years!

On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 22:23:48 -0400, in soc.culture.canada "serwad"
 wrote:

Solzhenitsyn breaks last taboo of the revolution

Nobel laureate under fire for new book on the role of ZYDS/Jews in 
Soviet-era repression

Alexander Solzhenitsyn, who first exposed the horrors of the Stalinist 
gulag, is now attempting to tackle one of the most sensitive topics of his 
writing career - the role of the Jews in the Bolshevik revolution and Soviet 
purges.
In his latest book Solzhenitsyn, 84, deals with one of the last taboos of 
the communist revolution: that Jews were as much perpetrators of the 
repression as its victims. Two Hundred Years Together - a reference to the 
1772 partial annexation of Poland and Russia which greatly increased the 
Russian Jewish population - contains three chapters discussing the Jewish 
role in the revolutionary genocide and secret police purges of Soviet 
Russia.

  But Jewish leaders and some historians have reacted furiously to the book, 
and questioned Solzhenitsyn's motives in writing it, accusing him of factual 
inaccuracies and of fanning the flames of anti-semitism in Russia.
Solzhenitsyn argues that some Jewish satire of the revolutionary period 
"consciously or unconsciously descends on the Russians" as being behind the 
genocide. But he states that all the nation's ethnic groups must share the 
blame, and that people shy away from speaking the truth about the Jewish 
experience.

In one remark which infuriated Russian Jews, he wrote: "If I would care to 
generalise, and to say that the life of the Jews in the camps was especially 
hard, I could, and would not face reproach for an unjust national 
generalisation. But in the camps where I was kept, it was different. The 
Jews whose experience I saw - their life was softer than that of others."

Yet he added: "But it is impossible to find the answer to the eternal 
question: who is to be blamed, who led us to our death? To explain the 
actions of the Kiev cheka [secret police] only by the fact that two thirds 
were Jews, is certainly incorrect."

Solzhenitsyn, awarded the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1970, spent much of 
his life in Soviet prison camps, enduring persecution when he wrote about 
his experiences. He is currently in frail health, but in an interview given 
last month he said that Russia must come to terms with the Stalinist and 
revolutionary genocides - and that its Jewish population should be as 
offended at their own role in the purges as they are at the Soviet power 
that also persecuted them.

"My book was directed to empathise with the thoughts, feelings and the 
psychology of the Jews - their spiritual component," he said. "I have never 
made general conclusions about a people. I will always differentiate between 
layers of Jews. One layer rushed headfirst to the revolution. Another, to 
the contrary, was trying to stand back. The Jewish subject for a long time 
was considered prohibited. Zhabotinsky [a Jewish writer] once said that the 
best service our Russian friends give to us is never to speak aloud about 
us."

But Solzhenitsyn's book has caused controversy in Russia, where one Jewish 
leader said it was "not of any merit".

"This is a mistake, but even geniuses make mistakes," said Yevgeny 
Satanovsky, president of the Russian Jewish Congress. "Richard Wagner did 
not like the Jews, but was a great composer. Dostoyevsky was a great Russian 
writer, but had a very sceptical attitude towards the Jews.

"This is not a book about how the Jews and Russians lived together for 200 
years, but one about how they lived apart after finding themselves on the 
same territory. This book is a weak one professionally. Factually, it is so 
bad as to be beyond criticism. As literature, it is not of any merit."

But DM Thomas, one of Solzhenitsyn's biographers, said that he did not think 
the book was fuelled by anti-semitism. "I would not doubt his sincerity. He 
says that he firmly supports the state of Israel. In his fiction and factual 
writing there are Jewish characters that he writes about who are bright, 
decent, anti-Stalinist people."

Professor Robert Service of Oxford University, an expert on 20th century 
Russian history, said that from what he had read about the book, 
Solzhenitsyn was "absolutely right".

Researching a book on Lenin, Prof Service came across details of how 
Trotsky, who was of Jewish origin, asked the politburo in 1919 to ensure 
that Jews were enrolled in the Red army. Trotsky said that Jews were 
disproportionately represented in the Soviet civil bureaucracy, including 
the cheka.

"Trotsky's idea was that the spread of anti-semitism was [partly down to] 
objections about their entrance into the civil service. There is something 
in this; that they were not just passive spectators of the revolution. They 
were part-victims and part-perpetrators.

"It is not a question that anyone can write about without a huge amount of 
bravery, and [it] needs doing in Russia because the Jews are quite often 
written about by fanatics. Mr Solzhenitsyn's book seems much more measured 
than that."

Yet others failed to see the need for Solzhenitsyn's pursuit of this 
particular subject at present. Vassili Berezhkov, a retired KGB colonel and 
historian of the secret services and the NKVD (the precursor of the KGB), 
said: "The question of ethnicity did not have any importance either in the 
revolution or the story of the NKVD. This was a social revolution and those 
who served in the NKVD and cheka were serving ideas of social change.

"If Solzhenitsyn writes that there were many Jews in the NKVD, it will 
increase the passions of anti-semitism, which has deep roots in Russian 
history. I think it is better not to discuss such a question now."



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Why Jews/ZYDs  Are Still a Real Problem, Simplified
Basically, people for the past more than 2000 years can not trust 
the Christkiller ZYDS!

On 12 Oct 2006 11:13:47 -0700, in uk.politics.misc "Magnus"
 wrote:

Why Jews Are a Problem, Simplified

Contrary to what you have probably heard, Jews were the world's first
racists. They created racist ideas, as official doctrine, long before
Christianity or Islam existed.

Jews claimed that they were superior to all other humans [i.e. that
they were "The Chosen People"]. They did this mainly to keep
themselves apart from other groups of people so that their genetic
strain would not be 'polluted.'

Then, many years later, the French leader Napoleon 'freed' the Jews
[he granted them various rights that they did not previously have],
and Jews became part of White European society. Their bigoted, racist,
money-oriented ways did not endear them to the benevolent Europeans.

So-called "anti-Semitism" resulted from that gentile/Jewish contact in
Europe, and became the norm. European attitudes about Jews became
worse when Jews overtook Russia in 1917. That event resulted in, or at
least coincided with, a worldwide Jewish revolution. Within that
revolution, Jews tried different methods of conquering the gentile-
dominated world that had 'oppressed' them for years: some Jews tried
Communism, some tried global capitalism, some tried feminism, some
tried leftism. All such ideas were designed to weaken traditional
gentile culture so that Jews, as both a religion and a race by long
interbreeding among themselves, would never be 'oppressed' again.

Jews dominate the West today by controlling the media, Hollywood,
banking/finance, left-wing political causes, and other areas of
Western culture. They are smarter than gentiles as a rule, and are
much more ruthless and cunning. They do not have White morals; they do
not feel guilty about cheating a non-Jew. They are not White even
though they appear to be so. They are basically aliens living among
Whites. Some people have likened Jews to invaders from another planet
who look human; that description seems reasonable as a whole.

Furthermore, Jews see themselves as being in a perpetual war with non-
Jews. They are willing to go to further racial and political extremes
than gentiles, because they take that ongoing "war" with gentiles more
seriously than non-Jews do. Therefore, Jews will lie, cheat and steal
more readily than a non-Jew. This, in our opinion, makes Jews a
security risk within all Western countries.

Also, Jews are in deep, pathological denial about why gentiles do not
like them. A Jew will engage in lying to and swindling non-Jews, and
then will wonder with complete honesty why gentiles do not like Jews.
Jews seem unable to grasp the fact that their actions are unsavory to
gentiles. In fact, we suggest that this blindness of Jews to the many
unsavory aspects of Jewry is actually a form of mental illness,
although it will never be labeled as such.

While there are, no doubt, a few 'good' Jews in the West, their
numbers are very small. Jews cannot be counted on to preserve White
values since they are not White.

Jews are the greatest enemy of traditional Western culture.

********************

See the following for many links on Jews and Judaism:
http://wsi.matriots.com/jews.html

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
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Immer die verfluechte Juden seit 2000 Jahren! Vergiss niemals die verfluechte
Juden.

>On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 17:45:26 -0400, in alt.revisionism Gallows Cheater
> wrote:

>http://www.rense.com/general34/ZAND.HTM

>Zionism And The Third Reich
>By Mark Weber
>Institute for Historical Review
>2-8-3

>Early in 1935, a passenger ship bound for Haifa in Palestine left the German
>port of Bremerhaven. Its stern bore the Hebrew letters for its name, "Tel
>Aviv," while a swastika banner fluttered from the mast. And although the
>ship was Zionist-owned, its captain was a National Socialist Party member.
>Many years later a traveler aboard the ship recalled this symbolic
>combination as a "metaphysical absurdity."1 Absurd or not, this is but one
>vignette from a little-known chapter of history: The wide-ranging
>collaboration between Zionism and Hitler's Third Reich.

>Common Aims

>Over the years, people in many different countries have wrestled with
>the "Jewish question": that is, what is the proper role of Jews in
>non-Jewish society? During the 1930s, Jewish Zionists and German National
>Socialists shared similar views on how to deal with this perplexing issue.
>They agreed that Jews and Germans were distinctly different nationalities,
>and that Jews did not belong in Germany. Jews living in the Reich were
>therefore to be regarded not as "Germans of the Jewish faith," but rather
>as members of a separate national community. Zionism (Jewish nationalism)
>also implied an obligation by Zionist Jews to resettle in Palestine,
>the "Jewish homeland." They could hardly regard themselves as sincere
>Zionists and simultaneously claim equal rights in Germany or any
>other "foreign" country.
> 
>Theodor Herzl (1860-1904), the founder of modern Zionism, maintained that
>anti-Semitism is not an aberration, but a natural and completely
>understandable response by non-Jews to alien Jewish behavior and attitudes.
>The only solution, he argued, is for Jews to recognize reality and live in
>a separate state of their own. "The Jewish question exists wherever Jews
>live in noticeable numbers," he wrote in his most influential work, The
>Jewish State. "Where it does not exist, it is brought in by arriving
>Jews ... I believe I understand anti-Semitism, which is a very complex
>phenomenon. I consider this development as a Jew, without hate or fear."
>The Jewish question, he maintained, is not social or religious. "It is a
>national question. To solve it we must, above all, make it an international
>political issue ..." Regardless of their citizenship, Herzl insisted, Jews
>constitute not merely a religious community, but a nationality, a people, a
>Volk.2 Zionism, wrote Herzl, offered the world a welcome "final solution of
>the Jewish question."3
> 
>Six months after Hitler came to power, the Zionist Federation of Germany (by
>far the largest Zionist group in the country) submitted a detailed
>memorandum to the new government that reviewed German-Jewish relations and
>formally offered Zionist support in "solving" the vexing "Jewish question."
>The first step, it suggested, had to be a frank recognition of fundamental
>national differences: 4
> 
>Zionism has no illusions about the difficulty of the Jewish condition, which
>consists above all in an abnormal occupational pattern and in the fault of
>an intellectual and moral posture not rooted in one's own tradition.
>Zionism recognized decades ago that as a result of the assimilationist
>trend, symptoms of deterioration were bound to appear ...
> 
>Zionism believes that the rebirth of the national life of a people, which is
>now occurring in Germany through the emphasis on its Christian and national
>character, must also come about in the Jewish national group. For the
>Jewish people, too, national origin, religion, common destiny and a sense
>of its uniqueness must be of decisive importance in the shaping of its
>existence. This means that the egotistical individualism of the liberal era
>must be overcome and replaced with a sense of community and collective
>responsibility ...
> 
>We believe it is precisely the new [National Socialist] Germany that can,
>through bold resoluteness in the handling of the Jewish question, take a
>decisive step toward overcoming a problem which, in truth, will have to be
>dealt with by most European peoples ...
> 
>Our acknowledgment of Jewish nationality provides for a clear and sincere
>relationship to the German people and its national and racial realities.
>Precisely because we do not wish to falsify these fundamentals, because we,
>too, are against mixed marriage and are for maintaining the purity of the
>Jewish group and reject any trespasses in the cultural domain, we -- having
>been brought up in the German language and German culture -- can show an
>interest in the works and values of German culture with admiration and
>internal sympathy ...
> 
>For its practical aims, Zionism hopes to be able to win the collaboration of
>even a government fundamentally hostile to Jews, because in dealing with
>the Jewish question not sentimentalities are involved but a real problem
>whose solution interests all peoples and at the present moment especially
>the German people ... Boycott propaganda -- such as is currently being
>carried on against Germany in many ways -- is in essence un-Zionist,
>because Zionism wants not to do battle but to convince and to build ...
> 
>We are not blind to the fact that a Jewish question exists and will continue
>to exist. From the abnormal situation of the Jews severe disadvantages
>result for them, but also scarcely tolerable conditions for other peoples.
>The Federation's paper, the Jüdische Rundschau ("Jewish Review"),
>proclaimed the same message: "Zionism recognizes the existence of a Jewish
>problem and desires a far-reaching and constructive solution. For this
>purpose Zionism wishes to obtain the assistance of all peoples, whether
>pro- or anti-Jewish, because, in its view, we are dealing here with a
>concrete rather than a sentimental problem, the solution of which all
>peoples are interested."5 A young Berlin rabbi, Joachim Prinz, who later
>settled in the United States and became head of the American Jewish
>Congress, wrote in his 1934 book, Wir Juden ("We Jews"), that the National
>Socialist revolution in Germany meant "Jewry for the Jews." He
>explained: "No subterfuge can save us now. In place of assimilation we
>desire a new concept: recognition of the Jewish nation and Jewish race." 6
> 
>Active Collaboration
> 
>On this basis of their similar ideologies about ethnicity and nationhood,
>National Socialists and Zionists worked together for what each group
>believed was in its own national interest. As a result, the Hitler
>government vigorously supported Zionism and Jewish emigration to Palestine
>from 1933 until 1940-1941, when the Second World War prevented extensive
>collaboration.
> 
>Even as the Third Reich became more entrenched, many German Jews, probably a
>majority, continued to regard themselves, often with considerable pride, as
>Germans first. Few were enthusiastic about pulling up roots to begin a new
>life in far-away Palestine. Nevertheless, more and more German Jews turned
>to Zionism during this period. Until late 1938, the Zionist movement
>flourished in Germany under Hitler. The circulation of the Zionist
>Federation's bi-weekly Jüdische Rundschau grew enormously. Numerous Zionist
>books were published. "Zionist work was in full swing" in Germany during
>those years, the Encyclopaedia Judaica notes. A Zionist convention held in
>Berlin in 1936 reflected "in its composition the vigorous party life of
>German Zionists."7
> 
>The SS was particularly enthusiastic in its support for Zionism. An internal
>June 1934 SS position paper urged active and wide-ranging support for
>Zionism by the government and the Party as the best way to encourage
>emigration of Germany's Jews to Palestine. This would require increased
>Jewish self-awareness. Jewish schools, Jewish sports leagues, Jewish
>cultural organizations -- in short, everything that would encourage this
>new consciousness and self-awareness - should be promoted, the paper
>recommended.8
> 
>SS officer Leopold von Mildenstein and Zionist Federation official Kurt
>Tuchler toured Palestine together for six months to assess Zionist
>development there. Based on his firsthand observations, von Mildenstein
>wrote a series of twelve illustrated articles for the important Berlin
>daily Der Angriff that appeared in late 1934 under the heading "A Nazi
>Travels to Palestine." The series expressed great admiration for the
>pioneering spirit and achievements of the Jewish settlers. Zionist
>self-development, von Mildenstein wrote, had produced a new kind of Jew. He
>praised Zionism as a great benefit for both the Jewish people and the
>entire world. A Jewish homeland in Palestine, he wrote in his concluding
>article, "pointed the way to curing a centuries-long wound on the body of
>the world: the Jewish question." Der Angriff issued a special medal, with a
>Swastika on one side and a Star of David on the other, to commemorate the
>joint SS-Zionist visit. A few months after the articles appeared, von
>Mildenstein was promoted to head the Jewish affairs department of the SS
>security service in order to support Zionist migration and development more
>effectively. 9
> 
>The official SS newspaper, Das Schwarze Korps, proclaimed its support for
>Zionism in a May 1935 front-page editorial: "The time may not be too far
>off when Palestine will again be able to receive its sons who have been
>lost to it for more than a thousand years. Our good wishes, together with
>official goodwill, go with them."10 Four months later, a similar article
>appeared in the SS paper: 11
> 
>The recognition of Jewry as a racial community based on blood and not on
>religion leads the German government to guarantee without reservation the
>racial separateness of this community. The government finds itself in
>complete agreement with the great spiritual movement within Jewry, the
>so-called Zionism, with its recognition of the solidarity of Jewry around
>the world and its rejection of all assimilationist notions. On this basis,
>Germany undertakes measures that will surely play a significant role in the
>future in the handling of the Jewish problem around the world.
> 
>A leading German shipping line began direct passenger liner service from
>Hamburg to Haifa, Palestine, in October 1933 providing "strictly kosher
>food on its ships, under the supervision of the Hamburg rabbinate." 12 With
>official backing, Zionists worked tirelessly to "reeducate" Germany's Jews.
>As American historian Francis Nicosia put it in his 1985 survey, The Third
>Reich and the Palestine Question: "Zionists were encouraged to take their
>message to the Jewish community, to collect money, to show films on
>Palestine and generally to educate German Jews about Palestine. There was
>considerable pressure to teach Jews in Germany to cease identifying
>themselves as Germans and to awaken a new Jewish national identity in
>them." 13
> 
>In an interview after the war, the former head of the Zionist Federation of
>Germany, Dr. Hans Friedenthal, summed up the situation: "The Gestapo did
>everything in those days to promote emigration, particularly to Palestine.
>We often received their help when we required anything from other
>authorities regarding preparations for emigration." 14
> 
>At the September 1935 National Socialist Party Congress, the Reichstag
>adopted the so-called "Nuremberg laws" that prohibited marriages and sexual
>relations between Jews and Germans and, in effect, proclaimed the Jews an
>alien minority nationality. A few days later the Zionist Jüdische Rundschau
>editorially welcomed the new measures: 15
> 
>Germany ... is meeting the demands of the World Zionist Congress when it
>declares the Jews now living in Germany to be a national minority. Once the
>Jews have been stamped a national minority it is again possible to
>establish normal relations between the German nation and Jewry. The new
>laws give the Jewish minority in Germany its own cultural life, its own
>national life. In future it will be able to shape its own schools, its own
>theatre, and its own sports associations. In short, it can create its own
>future in all aspects of national life ...
> 
>Germany has given the Jewish minority the opportunity to live for itself,
>and is offering state protection for this separate life of the Jewish
>minority: Jewry's process of growth into a nation will thereby be
>encouraged and a contribution will be made to the establishment of more
>tolerable relations between the two nations. Georg Kareski, the head of
>both the "Revisionist" Zionist State Organization and the Jewish Cultural
>League, and former head of the Berlin Jewish Community, declared in an
>interview with the Berlin daily Der Angriff at the end of 1935: 16
> 
>For many years I have regarded a complete separation of the cultural affairs
>of the two peoples [Jews and Germans] as a pre-condition for living
>together without conflict... I have long supported such a separation,
>provided it is founded on respect for the alien nationality. The Nuremberg
>Laws ... seem to me, apart from their legal provisions, to conform entirely
>with this desire for a separate life based on mutual respect... This
>interruption of the process of dissolution in many Jewish communities,
>which had been promoted through mixed marriages, is therefore, from a
>Jewish point of view, entirely welcome.
> 
>Zionist leaders in other countries echoed these views. Stephen S. Wise,
>president of the American Jewish Congress and the World Jewish Congress,
>told a New York rally in June 1938: "I am not an American citizen of the
>Jewish faith, I am a Jew... Hitler was right in one thing. He calls the
>Jewish people a race and we are a race." 17 The Interior Ministry's Jewish
>affairs specialist, Dr. Bernhard Lösener, expressed support for Zionism in
>an article that appeared in a November 1935 issue of the official
>Reichsverwaltungsblatt: 18
> 
>If the Jews already had their own state in which the majority of them were
>settled, then the Jewish question could be regarded as completely resolved
>today, also for the Jews themselves. The least amount of opposition to the
>ideas underlying the Nuremberg Laws have been shown by the Zionists,
>because they realize at once that these laws represent the only correct
>solution for the Jewish people as well. For each nation must have its own
>state as the outward expression of its particular nationhood.
> 
>In cooperation with the German authorities, Zionist groups organized a
>network of some forty camps and agricultural centers throughout Germany
>where prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine.
>Although the Nuremberg Laws forbid Jews from displaying the German flag,
>Jews were specifically guaranteed the right to display the blue and white
>Jewish national banner. The flag that would one day be adopted by Israel
>was flown at the Zionist camps and centers in Hitler's Germany. 19
> 
>Himmler's security service cooperated with the Haganah, the Zionist
>underground military organization in Palestine. The SS agency paid Haganah
>official Feivel Polkes for information about the situation in Palestine and
>for help in directing Jewish emigration to that country. Meanwhile, the
>Haganah was kept well informed about German plans by a spy it managed to
>plant in the Berlin headquarters of the SS.20 Haganah-SS collaboration even
>included secret deliveries of German weapons to Jewish settlers for use in
>clashes with Palestinian Arabs. 21 In the aftermath of the November
>1938 "Kristallnacht" outburst of violence and destruction, the SS quickly
>helped the Zionist organization to get back on its feet and continue its
>work in Germany, although now under more restricted supervision. 22
> 
>Official Reservations
> 
>German support for Zionism was not unlimited. Government and Party officials
>were very mindful of the continuing campaign by powerful Jewish communities
>in the United States, Britain and other countries to mobilize "their"
>governments and fellow citizens against Germany. As long as world Jewry
>remained implacably hostile toward National Socialist Germany, and as long
>as the great majority of Jews around the world showed little eagerness to
>resettle in the Zionist "promised land," a sovereign Jewish state in
>Palestine would not really "solve" the international Jewish question.
>Instead, German officials reasoned, it would immeasurably strengthen this
>dangerous anti-German campaign. German backing for Zionism was therefore
>limited to support for a Jewish homeland in Palestine under British
>control, not a sovereign Jewish state. 23
> 
>A Jewish state in Palestine, the Foreign Minister informed diplomats in June
>1937, would not be in Germany's interest because it would not be able to
>absorb all Jews around the world, but would only serve as an additional
>power base for international Jewry, in much the same way as Moscow served
>as a base for international Communism.24 Reflecting something of a shift in
>official policy, the German press expressed much greater sympathy in 1937
>for Palestinian Arab resistance to Zionist ambitions, at a time when
>tension and conflict between Jews and Arabs in Palestine was sharply
>increasing. 25
> 
>A Foreign Office circular bulletin of June 22, 1937, cautioned that in spite
>of support for Jewish settlement in Palestine, "it would nevertheless be a
>mistake to assume that Germany supports the formation of a state structure
>in Palestine under some form of Jewish control. In view of the anti-German
>agitation of international Jewry, Germany cannot agree that the formation
>of a Palestine Jewish state would help the peaceful development of the
>nations of the world."26 "The proclamation of a Jewish state or a
>Jewish-administrated Palestine," warned an internal memorandum by the
>Jewish affairs section of the SS, "would create for Germany a new enemy,
>one that would have a deep influence on developments in the Near East."
>Another SS agency predicted that a Jewish state "would work to bring
>special minority protection to Jews in every country, therefore giving
>legal protection to the exploitation activity of world Jewry."27 In January
>1939, Hitler's new Foreign Minister, Joachim von Ribbentrop, likewise
>warned in another circular bulletin that "Germany must regard the formation
>of a Jewish state as dangerous" because it "would bring an international
>increase in power to world Jewry." 28
> 
>Hitler himself personally reviewed this entire issue in early 1938 and, in
>spite of his long-standing skepticism of Zionist ambitions and misgivings
>that his policies might contribute to the formation of a Jewish state,
>decided to support Jewish migration to Palestine even more vigorously. The
>prospect of ridding Germany of its Jews, he concluded, outweighed the
>possible dangers. 29
> 
>Meanwhile, the British government imposed ever more drastic restrictions on
>Jewish immigration into Palestine in 1937, 1938 and 1939. In response, the
>SS security service concluded a secret alliance with the clandestine
>Zionist agency Mossad le-Aliya Bet to smuggle Jews illegally into
>Palestine. As a result of this intensive collaboration, several convoys of
>ships succeeded in reaching Palestine past British gunboats. Jewish
>migration, both legal and illegal, from Germany (including Austria) to
>Palestine increased dramatically in 1938 and 1939. Another 10,000 Jews were
>scheduled to depart in October 1939, but the outbreak of war in September
>brought the effort to an end. All the same, German authorities continued to
>promote indirect Jewish emigration to Palestine during 1940 and 1941. 30
>Even as late as March 1942, at least one officially authorized
>Zionist "kibbutz" training camp for potential emigrants continued to
>operate in Hitler's Germany. 31
> 
>The Transfer Agreement
> 
>The centerpiece of German-Zionist cooperation during the Hitler era was the
>Transfer Agreement, a pact that enabled tens of thousands of German Jews to
>migrate to Palestine with their wealth. The Agreement, also known as the
>Haavara (Hebrew for "transfer"), was concluded in August 1933 following
>talks between German officials and Chaim Arlosoroff, Political Secretary of
>the Jewish Agency, the Palestine center of the World Zionist Organization.
>32
> 
>Through this unusual arrangement, each Jew bound for Palestine deposited
>money in a special account in Germany. The money was used to purchase
>German-made agricultural tools, building materials, pumps, fertilizer, and
>so forth, which were exported to Palestine and sold there by the
>Jewish-owned Haavara company in Tel-Aviv. Money from the sales was given to
>the Jewish emigrant upon his arrival in Palestine in an amount
>corresponding to his deposit in Germany. German goods poured into Palestine
>through the Haavara, which was supplemented a short time later with a
>barter agreement by which Palestine oranges were exchanged for German
>timber, automobiles, agricultural machinery, and other goods. The Agreement
>thus served the Zionist aim of bringing Jewish settlers and development
>capital to Palestine, while simultaneously serving the German goal of
>freeing the country of an unwanted alien group.
> 
>Delegates at the 1933 Zionist Congress in Prague vigorously debated the
>merits of the Agreement. Some feared that the pact would undermine the
>international Jewish economic boycott against Germany. But Zionist
>officials reassured the Congress. Sam Cohen, a key figure behind the
>Haavara arrangement, stressed that the Agreement was not economically
>advantageous to Germany. Arthur Ruppin, a Zionist Organization emigration
>specialist who had helped negotiate the pact, pointed out that "the
>Transfer Agreement in no way interfered with the boycott movement, since no
>new currency will flow into Germany as a result of the agreement..." 33 The
>1935 Zionist Congress, meeting in Switzerland, overwhelmingly endorsed the
>pact. In 1936, the Jewish Agency (the Zionist "shadow government" in
>Palestine) took over direct control of the Ha'avara, which remained in
>effect until the Second World War forced its abandonment.
> 
>Some German officials opposed the arrangement. Germany's Consul General in
>Jerusalem, Hans Döhle, for example, sharply criticized the Agreement on
>several occasions during 1937. He pointed out that it cost Germany the
>foreign exchange that the products exported to Palestine through the pact
>would bring if sold elsewhere. The Haavara monopoly sale of German goods to
>Palestine through a Jewish agency naturally angered German businessmen and
>Arabs there. Official German support for Zionism could lead to a loss of
>German markets throughout the Arab world. The British government also
>resented the arrangement.34 A June 1937 German Foreign Office internal
>bulletin referred to the "foreign exchange sacrifices" that resulted from
>the Haavara. 35
> 
>A December 1937 internal memorandum by the German Interior Ministry reviewed
>the impact of the Transfer Agreement: "There is no doubt that the Haavara
>arrangement has contributed most significantly to the very rapid
>development of Palestine since 1933. The Agreement provided not only the
>largest source of money (from Germany!), but also the most intelligent
>group of immigrants, a nd finally it brought to the country the machines
>and industrial products essential for development." The main advantage of
>the pact, the memo reported, was the emigration of large numbers of Jews to
>Palestine, the most desirable target country as far as Germany was
>concerned. But the paper also noted the important drawbacks pointed out by
>Consul Döhle and others. The Interior Minister, it went on, had concluded
>that the disadvantages of the agreement now outweighed the advantages and
>that, therefore, it should be terminated. 36
> 
>Only one man could resolve the controversy. Hitler personally reviewed the
>policy in July and September 1937, and again in January 1938, and each time
>decided to maintain the Haavara arrangement. The goal of removing Jews from
>Germany, he concluded, justified the drawbacks. 37
> 
>The Reich Economics Ministry helped to organize another transfer company,
>the International Trade and Investment Agency, or Intria, through which
>Jews in foreign countries could help German Jews emigrate to Palestine.
>Almost $900,000 was eventually channeled through the Intria to German Jews
>in Palestine.38 Other European countries eager to encourage Jewish
>emigration concluded agreements with the Zionists modeled after the
>Ha'avara. In 1937 Poland authorized the Halifin (Hebrew for "exchange")
>transfer company. By late summer 1939, Czechoslovakia, Romania, Hungary and
>Italy had signed similar arrangements. The outbreak of war in September
>1939, however, prevented large-scale implementation of these agreements. 39


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But the filthy Christkiller ZYDS are still demanding  billions from Christians
everywhere  for the so-called HOLOHOAX!!

This, even though prominent ZYDs COLLABORATED with Nazis!

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:22:13 -0400, in soc.culture.jewish "ElParedon"
 wrote:
"Daniel Bernard"  wrote in message 
news:n7o8c3l7jisibe4g52itld86ci98bb8r8j@4ax.com...
> The Dynamic Duo Of Lies

> Written by Jayne Gardner

> Part of what helped me to finally understand that I had been lied to
> about the Holocaust was the very testimony of some of the more famous
> survivors. Reading what happened to them during the war made
> absolutely no sense when stacked up against what we were being told
> about the horrors endured by the Jews in Europe's concentration camps.
> For instance, Elie Wiesel, a man who has come to personify the
> Holocaust, told of Jews being thrown into open pits of fire at
> Auschwitz, a fate that he only managed to escape by sheer chance.
> Here he differs from the majority of survivors who told of gas
> chambers being the instrument of death for the majority of camp
> inmates:

> "Forced to choose from among several Allied war propaganda lies, he
> chose to defend the fire lie instead of the boiling water, gassing, or
> electrocution lies. In 1956, when he published his testimony in
> Yiddish, the fire lie was still alive in certain circles. This lie is
> the origin of the term Holocaust. Today there is no longer a single
> historian who believes that Jews were burned alive. The myths of the
> boiling water and of electrocution have also disappeared. Only the gas
> remains."

> "In his autobiography, Wiesel writes:

> "Not far from us, flames were leaping up from a ditch, gigantic
> flames. They were burning something there. A lorry drew up at the pit
> and delivered its load - little children. Babies! Yes, I saw it - saw
> it with my own eyes. those children in the flames. (Is it surprising
> that I could not sleep after that? Sleep had fled from my eyes.) So
> this is where we were going. A little farther on was another and
> larger ditch for adults. [.] 'Father,' I said, 'if that is so, I don't
> want to wait here. I'm going to run to the electric wire. That would
> be better than slow agony in the flames.'"

> Compare this with the explanation given by Thies Christopherson in his
> article entitled Reflection On Auschwitz And West German Justice:

> "At first, those who died at Auschwitz were buried, but because of the
> high ground water level (one meter) in this area between the Vistula
> and Sola rivers, that practice couldn't be continued. A labor team
> headed by SS Staff Sergeant Moll (who had been in charge of the
> agricultural nursery at Raisko) was assigned to dig up the buried
> corpses and burn them. This was done on an open fire. The most
> unbelievable stories were told about this procedure. West German
> television even broadcast a film of this which was supposedly made in
> secret by an SS man."

> As Wiesel continues his story, he is saved by nothing short of a
> miracle:

> "Our line had now only fifteen paces to go. I bit my lips so that my
> father would not hear my teeth chattering. Ten steps still. Eight.
> Seven. We marched slowly on as though following a hearse at our own
> funeral. Four more steps. Three steps. There it was now, right in
> front of us, the pit and its flames. I gathered all that was left of
> my strength, so that I could break the ranks and throw myself upon the
> barbed wire. In the depth of my heart I bade farewell to my father, to
> the whole universe; and, in spite of myself, the words formed
> themselves and issued a whisper from my lips: Yitgadal veyitkadach
> shmé raba. May His name be blessed and magnified.. My heart was
> bursting. The moment had come. I was face to face with the Angel of
> Death. No. Two steps from the pit we were ordered to turn to the left
> and made to go into our barracks."

> Mr. Wiesel's lies are many and varied. When writing about the
> slaughter at Babi Yar, he wrote:

> "Later, I learn from a witness that, for month after month, the ground
> never stopped trembling; and that, from time to time, geysers of blood
> spurted from it."

> He claimed that they killed 10,000 Jews a day at Buchenwald but some
> how, miraculously, he was always spared. Is it likely that one 15 year
> old boy could survive not one, but three concentration camps whose
> entire raison d'etre was to kill as many Jews as possible?

> It has been said that Elie Wiesel "is the Holocaust," and yet when he
> wrote his autobiographical novel, Night there is no mention of gas
> chambers. He has been caught in lie after lie and yet to this day he
> holds to his story in spite of a great deal of evidence that he has
> been less than truthful.

> In an account of Wiesel's time at Auschwitz, he claims that, while
> working, he injured his foot and had to spend some time in the camp
> infirmary. Of course, this begs the question as to why a camp which
> was built, ostensibly, to annihilate Jews would even have an
> infirmary. Does it make any sense that a place built for the sole
> purpose of killing Jews on a large scale would bother having an
> infirmary staffed with doctors and nurses? And if Wiesel, then a 15
> year old boy with an injured foot, could not even work, why would they
> not just kill him on the spot?

> What really convinced me that Wiesel is a liar is that, as the Russian