From KMcVay@nazikor.net Thu Dec 20 14:21:10 EST 2007 Article: 65705 of soc.culture.swiss Xref: sn-us soc.culture.swiss:65705 alt.politics.europe:65467 soc.culture.russian:469313 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-01!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-01!sn-xt-sjc-13!supernews.com!grolier!club-internet.fr!feedme-small.clubint.net!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: KenMcVaySOBC
Newsgroups: soc.culture.swiss,alt.politics.europe,soc.culture.russian Subject: ZYDS=NAZI KOLABORATEURS - KASTNER, RUMKOWSKI, WIESENTHAL + 51 More!! Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 10:45:46 -0600 Organization: jewwatch.org Lines: 386 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: firstname.lastname@example.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 This article is so important, it needs to be reposted and passed on, so that more and more people around the world will come to know the truth about the willing ZYD COLLABORATION with nazis. Even about the HOLOHOAX, based on zyd lies!! Now even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL has been proven to be a Nazi GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!! As were Rumkowski, and never forget the infamous KASTNER!! And at least another 50 well documented ZYD KOLLABORATEURS well documented in the Rigg book!! >On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:08:44 -0700, Joel Eichmann > wrote: >It will not be surprising for researchers in Poland, Russia and even >Germany and Switzerland, to produce even more evidence of even more >COLLABORATION between the zionists and their colleagues in Germany!! >>On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 08:41:32 -0700, dandelion >>wrote: >>Now that more and more research, with supporting documentation, is >>being made public, documenting the collaboration of the ZIONAZIS with >>the nazis, slime like Shiksa Sueee Cohen do not want this TRUTH made >>public. >>Even German historians such as C. Lange are now making public their >>findings, to the chagrin of the ZHID COLLABORATORS. >>It was not only the KASTNER CASE!! >>>On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 09:27:47 -0700, Susan Shiksa Cohen >>> wrote: >>>>It will not be surprising to find after even more research, that even >>>>more incidents of ZHID/Nazi COLLABORATION happened!! >>>>Surely this should cause those countries paying tribute dollars to the >>>>ZHIDS, to consider demanding repayment? On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:25:52 GMT, email@example.com wrote: 51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis By Lenni Brenner, ed. Barricade Books, 2002, 342 pp. List: $22; AET: $15. Reviewed by Sara Powell It's no secret that Zionism embraced political expediency to advance the cause of carving Eretz-Israel from the land of its native inhabitants. In his 1983 book, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators, Lenni Brenner shows that 20th century Zionists observed shockingly few imits to that expediency. Not surprisingly, the book received little coverage in the American media. Now, in 51 Documents, Brenner has compiled a wide variety of letters, statements, articles, and judgements?some of which appeared in his earlier book?by a broad array of activists and authors, that documents Zionist cooperration with the Nazis. On the face of it, the notion seems absurd. However, Brenner presents the case?made in many Zionists? own words?that the Nazi agenda of expelling the Jews from Germany fit nicely with the Zionist plan for enticing those Jews into settling in Palestine and creating a new Jewish nation. In addition to introductory and concluding chapters, the book is organized into five sections which lead the reader through early, pre-Zionist documents; pre-Holocaust ideological factions; the Holocaust era itself; and a chapter on the Stern Gang and the Nazis. Readers should note that a few documents are not indicative of collaboration in and of themselves, but provide the background to others written in response. These latter do indicate levels of collaboration between Zionists and fascists, both the Nazis in Germany, and those in Mussolini?s Italy. Brenner?s brief explanatory notes at the beginning of each document are helpful, as are the glossary and index. 51 Documents assumes a certain knowledge of Zionist history, and requires a close reading and some deconstructive efforts on the part of the reader. Those willing to commit the time and effort, however, are rewarded with some stunning revelations. The reason some Zionists eschewed the boycott against Hitler?s Germany, for instance, is that they had a financial deal?Ha?avara?with Germany allowing Jews to exchange their wealth for goods to be exported to Palestine at less of a loss, as an incentive to emigrate. Those wondering why Zionists today are so organized and experienced in their public relations efforts discover that these battles have been fought before. Moreover, the section on Nazi and Zionist understandings of ?nationality? versus citizenship reveals how German and Israeli practices are based on the same concept. 51 Documents also sheds a whole new light on the term "Holocaust guilt" frequently understood to mean Western, non-Jewish guilt for not acting against the Holocaust earlier. However, these documents make it clear that Holocaust guilt began with those Zionists who made the undoubtedly difficult, but politically expedient choice to place Eretz-Israel at the top of their priorities, above the lives of their threatened European brethren. >From a Zionist Executive Meeting speech by Yitzhak Gruenbaum on Feb.18, 1943: And when some asked me: 'Can?t you give money from Keren Ha Yesod (Palestine Foundation Fund) to save Jews in the Diaspora?' I said: 'No!' And again I say no....And, because of these things, people called me an anti-Semite, and concluded that I?m guilty, for the fact that we don't give ourselves completely to rescue actions. (p. 211) However difficult it may be, the reader must confront some rather disturbing conclusions. The most unsettling realization for this reviewer is that pre-Holocaust Zionists were able to politically align themselves with the Nazis because both groups fundamentally saw race as an important dividing line?and, moreover, were determined to keep it that way. >From Vladimir Jabotinsky to Albert Einstein,"assimilation" of Jews into the societies in which they lived was not an acceptable option. Rather, Jewish nationalism required equality on a national level, not a personal one. As Jabotinsky explained, ?It is impossible for a man to become assimilated with people whose blood is different from his own? (p. 10); in Einstein?s words, ?Palestine is first and foremost not a refuge for East European Jews, but the incarnation of a reawakening sense of national solidarity? (p. 29). Finally, David Yisraeli, a member of the Stern Gang, wrote the following in late 1940, as part of a proposal to Hitler. It was delivered in 1941 to two German diplomats in Lebanon. 3. The establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would be in the interest of a maintained and strengthened future German position of power in the Near East (p. 301). Such beliefs, of course, were not limited to Nazis and Zionists. Scientific and philosophical constructs of the day considered such differentiation legitimate, and ideas of racial difference?and, therefore, racial supremacy?were practiced around the world. Another disturbing conclusion a reader must inevitably face is that Zionists learned both tactical and political lessons from the Nazis and that, even today, these lessons are applied to further the Zionist cause. Although most likely known to potential readers of this book, another disturbing element is the cover-up of the less than savory roles of current Israeli leaders, including former prime ministers, in the terrorist Irgun and Stern Gang just before, during, and after the Holocaust. Likewise, the succumbing of various U.S. officials to Zionist pressure is a familiar, but distressing, story. 51 Documents seems to represent a renewed attempt by Brenner to bring information regarding Zionist collaboration with the Nazis to U.S. supporters of Israel, as well as to Jews and Muslims, in order to expand dialogue with knowledge, and save lives?both Palestinian and Israeli?in the process. Readers of 51 Documents will find it difficult not to remove the rose colored glasses that so many seem to wear when examining Zionism. # 5 The Kastner Case Extracted from a pamphlet issued by BAZO-PS - 1981 Introduction The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that involving Rudolf Kastner. Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have, are generally under the impression that there is some "controversy" about negotiations he undertook for "the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military equipment," but that he was "fully rehabilitated" by the Supreme Court of Israel. The Accusations Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows: Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz. In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he wrote: I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - I accuse certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war. This small group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in Hitler's gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of silence. Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz - the number is still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics of the exterminations...I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas chambers... Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, "I know of your plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet." Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid bargaining end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine... (Ben Hecht, Perfidy, pp 261-2) These accusations are confirmed by the "Eichmann Confessions" published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960: "I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation, I wanted to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to Himmler's directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest...Among them, Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation - and even keep order in the collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a few hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine. It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price...was not too high for me. "...We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoked cigarets as though he were in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver case and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself. "Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for a select group of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Palestune... "As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic Zionist leaders....I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political goal... 'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have this group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape. After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews... That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner." (Hecht, Ibid., pp.260-61) Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false, do not relate merely to "the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military equipment." Are the accusations against Kastner true? According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent Zionist official Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel. -88- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted by Robert E. Nordlander firstname.lastname@example.org If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT, then visit www.freedomsite.org Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!! "At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." (George Orwell) David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free' "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." 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I've seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles also have family albums with naked children photos in them.] Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child even if he or she were not naked"? http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just to justify his existence to his ZHID masters. 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