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The zionazi ZYDS do not like to be reminded of this!
The ZYDS even use their shabbas-goy McVay, to try and deflect
this TRUE information.

The Christkillers dislike being reminded about the ZYD COLLABORATEURS - such
as KASTNER, RUMKOWSKI AND WIESENTHAL!!

Evean fat Hermann Goering used jews in his home and in the Luftwaffe.

On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 03:15:15 GMT, "amigo  cabal" 
wrote:

>Germans of Jewish Descent Who Served Hitler

>Possibly one of the most damning indictments of the allegations surrounding 
>the Holocaust and Nazi racial policy, come in an analysis of Germans of part 
>Jewish descent who were not only ardent Nazis but who faithfully served the 
>Nazi state at all levels in its military structure. For if the Nazi state 
>had, as is so often claimed, been hell bent on killing all traces of Jews, 
>it would never have allowed these individuals into positions which they did 
>hold - including army and air force generals.

>As discussed earlier, the Nazi racial laws made specific allowances for such 
>exceptions, and in fact actively sought to assimilate partial Jews into 
>German society, rather than have them re-congregate and form pure Jewish 
>gene pools once again. From the Nazi side, there was therefore no 
>contradiction between the assimilation of part Jews into German society, 
>although this policy is subject to considerable misunderstanding from 
>outside observers.

>As discussed in the book by American Military University professor Bryan 
>Mark Rigg in his book "Hitler's Jewish Soldiers, The Untold Story of Nazi 
>Racial Laws and Men of Jewish Descent in the German Military" (University 
>Press of Kansas, Modern War Studies, May 2002) as many as 150,000 men of 
>part Jewish descent, including decorated veterans and high-ranking officers, 
>even generals and admirals, fought for Nazi Germany right to the bitter end.

>Almost all of these 150,000 men received special exemptions and declarations 
>of being "true Germans", many of these orders being signed by Adolf Hitler 
>himself, in a legal provision known as the Deutschblütigkeitserklärung (or 
>literally, the Declaration of German Blood).

>Above: photographs of Wehrmacht soldier and half-Jew Anton Mayer, typical of 
>those which accompanied an application for exemption under the Nazis' racial 
>laws.

>Above left: Quarter-Jew Admiral Bernhard Rogge wearing his Knight's Cross 
>(Ritterkreuz) with oak leaves. Above right: Adolf Hitler personally declared 
>Luftwaffe Field Marshall Erhard Milch (standing left) as  an Aryan, even 
>though Milch was half-Jewish. To Milch's right, General Wolfram von 
>Richthofen.

>Above right: Half-Jew Luftwaffe General Helmut Wilberg; above right: The 
>military service book of half-Jew Hermann Aub.

>Above left: World War One veteran and half-Jew, General Johannes Zukertort; 
>and above right: Half-Jew Commander Paul Ascher, Admiral Lütjens's first 
>staff officer on the battleship Bismarck.

>Above left: Half-Jew Colonel Walter H. Hollaender, decorated with the 
>Knight's Cross (Ritterkreuz) and German-Cross in Gold; and above right: 
>Half-Jew Wehrmacht soldier Werner Goldberg.

>"KNOWING THE NAZI STATE FOR WHAT IT WAS"

>The significance of these Germans of Jewish descent serving the Third Reich 
>has not been lost on the academic world: for example, the following quote 
>from historian John Keegan in his review of Bryan Mark Rigg's book:
>
>"The revelation that Germans of Jewish blood, knowing the Nazi regime for 
>what it was, served Hitler as uniformed members of his armed forces must 
>come as a profound shock. It will surprise even professional historians of 
>the Nazi years."  - John Keegan, author of The Face of Battle and The Second 
>World War,  (http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/righit.html)

>Keegan is of course, mistaken in the one sense, in that even a cursory study 
>of Nazi racial laws will have revealed that the Blood Protection Law of 1935 
>make specific allowances for such cases, and only the general hysteria and 
>ignorance of what the Nazis actually said and did has allowed people to be 
>"shocked" by the large number of part Jews serving the Reich.

>The phrase "knowing the Nazi regime for what it was" above by Keegan, is 
>however the real significant part: for indeed, if the Nazis had been mass 
>murdering, gassing and burning millions of Jews, it is extremely unlikely 
>that these 150,000 prominent Germans of part Jewish descent, would have 
>served the Reich at all, never mind having made specific application to be 
>granted full Aryan status - especially given that there were only 
>approximately 600,000 full blooded Jews in Nazi Germany.




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How Many Survivors Are There?
No wonder people distrust the Christkiller ZYDS!

On 15 Aug 2006 06:29:08 -0700, in alt.revisionism "GB" 
wrote:

How Many Survivors Are There?
Studies counted on to allocate funds for the distressed are far apart
on the number.
Stewart Ain - Staff Writer

Two new studies to determine the location of Jewish Holocaust
survivors, for use in making future allocations to the most needy,
differ widely on the number of survivors worldwide, The Jewish Week has
learned.

Sergio Della Pergola, a demographer for the Institute of Contemporary
Jewry at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, found 1,092,000 survivors
worldwide. Jacob Ukeles, a policy researcher in Manhattan, found
688,000.

The Ukeles survey, an update of one he prepared in 2000 for the
Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against Germany, found only minor
differences from his previous effort.

Lawrence Eagleburger, chairman of the International Commission on
Holocaust Era Insurance Claims, commissioned both surveys.

Eagleburger had hoped to use the figures in determining how to
distribute $13.2 million annually in humanitarian funds for needy
survivors worldwide. The funds were obtained as part of a settlement
for unpaid Holocaust-era insurance claims against German and other
European companies.

Brooklyn Federal Judge Edward Korman, who is presiding over the $1.25
billion Swiss bank settlement, has been using the original Ukeles
survey to allocate money to needy Jewish survivors.

Both surveys found the highest percentage of Jewish survivors are
living in Israel. In his updated version, Ukeles reported the figure at
265,000, or 38.5 percent. Della Pergola put the number at 511,000, or
46.8 percent.

The numbers breakdown of where survivors are living:


The United States: Ukeles, 110,000 survivors, or 16 percent; Della
Pergola, 174,000, or 15.9 percent.

Europe: Ukeles, 126,000, or 18.3 percent; Della Pergola, 229,000, or 21
percent.

The former Soviet Union: Ukeles, 150,000, or 21.8 percent; Della
Pergola, 146,000, or 13.4 percent.

Other parts of the world: Ukeles, 38,000, or 5.5 percent; Della
Pergola, 32,000, or 2.9 percent.

The difference in the studies stems from the fact that Della Pergola
included as survivors Jews who lived in Arab countries - Morocco,
Tunisia, Libya, Syria, Lebanon and Algeria - that passed anti-Jewish
laws. Ukeles did not.

Asked his reaction to the disparities, Ukeles said that since their
purpose is to determine allocations based on need, a new needs
assessment study might be in order.

In such a study in 2000 for the Claims Conference, Ukeles found 119,000
survivors in the former Soviet Union in need - almost double that of
any other area.

Gideon Taylor, executive vice president of the Claims Conference, said
his organization's allocations committee would be meeting Monday to
vote on staff recommendations for the allocation of more than $50
million.

Taylor said the staff considered both the Della Pergola and Ukeles
studies, as well as recent needs studies performed in the United
States, Israel and the former Soviet Union. He said those studies would
soon be posted on his organization's Web site.

Elan Steinberg, executive vice president of the World Jewish Congress,
said despite the different number of survivors in the studies, the
percentage of Jews does not differ markedly except in Israel and the
former Soviet Union.

He said Della Pergola's figures represent a "dramatic shift" in
populations that "call into question the basis on which distributions
have been made."

Taylor stressed that both the Claims Conference and the World Jewish
Restitution Organization "can only act in an empirical manner" and
thus must base their allocations "on the most recent statistics and
on the basis of where the greatest needs are."

The allocations committee of the Claims Conference will be submitting
its recommendations to its full membership in coming weeks. Steinberg
said the WJC, a member of the Claims Conference, would take into
consideration Della Pergola's statistics when voting on the
committee's recommendations.

Israel Singer, president of the Claims Conference, said that instead of
each organization determining on its own how best to allocate
settlement monies to needy survivors, there should be a "global,
coordinated strategy" in determining allocations. He said it should
apply to the insurance and Swiss bank settlements, as well as the
allocations from the Claims Conference.

Samuel Dubbin, an attorney for the Holocaust Survivors Foundation,
welcomed such a move. He said he is convinced that if there was a
global allocation, "there would be enough funds available to meet the
needs of survivors all over the world."

Singer said he would be meeting shortly after Thanksgiving with Korman
to review the latest demographic statistics and to discuss the global
allocation idea.

"I'd love the judge to look at it and if he has to make allocations
earlier, it does not mean we can't reassess our allocations based on
what he does," Singer said.

Singer stressed that all of the settlements combined, along with money
the Claims Conference obtains from various sources, contains hundreds
of millions of dollars that together might meet the needs of survivors
for the next five years.

Any distribution plans that call for allocations beyond that time frame
should be shortened, he said.

"Survivors are dying at the rate of 15 percent a year," Singer
said. "We should telescope the amount of time allocations are
made."

In addition, Singer said the money must go directly to help survivors.
If the survivors have moved, they should still receive the money if
they are in need.

"The money should not be an entitlement for places but for
individuals," he said.

At a meeting this week in Jerusalem, the executive committee of the
Claims Conference decided to press the German government to provide
funds for homecare for Holocaust survivors in need worldwide.

Dubbin pointed out that the Association of Jewish Family and
Children's Services Agencies in 2002 estimated that a minimum of $30
million is needed annually to care for needy survivors in the United
States.
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From: Marek Maciej Ziemba 
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Subject: Remembering The Unknown Holocaust-ZYDS Murdered Many Millions in Ukraine!!
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Many  tens of MILLIONS of Christian Ukrainians were murdered by the 
ZYD NKVD than the alleged "6 million" propagandized by the 
Christkiller ZYDs in their HOLOHOAX!!

That some Ukrainians fought with the anti-communist Germans would be in
retaliation for what the ZYDS did, as well detailed by Margolis, himself an
honest Jew!!


On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 15:30:42 -0500, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

>Is that why many Ukrainians joined Hitler's SS in WWII?

>"Blake"  wrote in message 
>news:1139598733.990971.3620@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

>> Why is this slaughter so under-publicised?  Because many Jews
>> supported it when it was occurring and because Jews have the
>> power to cover it up now.
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> "Eric Margolis, c/o Editorial Department, The Toronto Sun Remembering
>> Ukraine's Unknown Holocaust

>> LOS ANGELES - As Britain's socialist government cleared the way for a
>> gaudy show trial of that Great Satan of the left, Chile's Gen. Augusto
>> Pinochet, the 65th anniversary of this century's bloodiest crime was
>> utterly ignored. Leftists now baying for Pinochet's head don't want to
>> be reminded of the Unknown Holocaust

>> In 1932, Soviet leader Josef Stalin unleashed genocide in Ukraine.
>> Stalin determined to force Ukraine's millions of independent farmers -
>> called `kulaks'- into collectivized Soviet agriculture, and to crush
>> Ukraine's growing spirit of nationalism.

>> Ukraine's nightmare had begun in 1932. Faced by resistance to
>> collectivization, Stalin unleashed terror upon Ukraine. Moscow
>> dispatched 25,000 fanatical young party militants - earlier versions
>> of Mao's `Red Guards' - to force 10 million Ukrainian peasants into
>> collective farms. Secret police units of OGPU began selective
>> executions of recalcitrant farmers.

>> When Stalin's red guards failed to make a dent in this immense number,
>> OGPU was ordered to begin mass executions. But there were simply not
>> enough Chekists (secret police) to kill so many people, so Stalin
>> decided to replace bullets by a much cheaper medium of death, mass
>> starvation.

>> All seed stocks, grain, silage, and farm animals were confiscated from
>> Ukraine's farms. Ethiopia's communist dictator, Mengistu Haile Mariam,
>> used the very same method in the 1970's to force collectivization: the
>> resulting famine cased one million deaths.

>> OGPU agents and Red Army troops sealed all roads and rail lines.
>> Nothing came in or out of Ukraine. Farms were searched and looted of
>> food and fuel. Ukrainians quickly began to die of hunger, cold, and
>> sickness.

>> When OGPU failed to meet weekly execution quotas, Stalin sent
>> henchman, Lazar Kaganovitch, to destroy Ukrainian resistance.
>> Kaganovitch, the Soviet Eichmann, made quota, shooting 10,000
>> Ukrainians weekly. Eighty percent of all Ukrainian intellectuals were
>> executed. Ukrainian Nikita Khruschchev helped supervise the slaughter.

>> During the bitter winter of 1932-33, mass starvation created by
>> Kaganovitch and OGPU hit full force. Ukrainians ate their pets, boots,
>> belts, bark, and roots. Cannibalism became common; parents even ate
>> infant children.

>> The precise number of Ukrainians murdered by Stalin's custom-made
>> famine and Cheka firing squads remains unknown to this day. KGB's
>> archives, and recent work by Russian historians, shows at least 7
>> million Ukrainians died. Ukrainian historians put the figure at 9
>> million, or higher. Twenty-five percent of Ukraine's population was
>> exterminated.

>> Six million other farmers across the USSR were starved or shot during
>> collectivization. Stalin told Churchill he liquidated ten million
>> peasants during the 1930's. Add mass executions by the Cheka in
>> Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania; the genocide of 3 million Muslims of
>> the USSR; massacres of Cossacks and Volga Germans. In total, Soviet
>> industrial genocide accounted for at least 40 million victims, not
>> including 20 million war dead.

>> Kaganovitch, and many senior OGPU officers (later, NKVD) WERE JEWISH![ZHID]
>> The predominance of Jews among Bolshevik leaders, and the frightful
>> crimes and cruelty inflicted by Stalin's Cheka on Ukraine, the Baltic,
>> and Poland, led the victims of Red Terror to blame the Jewish people
>> for both communism and their suffering. As a direct result, during the
>> subsequent Nazi occupation of Eastern Europe, the region's innocent
>> Jews became the target of ferocious revenge by Ukrainians, Balts, and
>> Poles.

>> While the world is by now fully aware of the destruction of Europe's
>> Jews by the Nazis, the story of the numerically larger holocaust in
>> Ukraine has been suppressed, or ignored. Ukraine's genocide occured
>> 8-9 years before Hitler began the Jewish Holocaust, and was committed,
>> unlike Nazi crimes, before the world's gaze. But Stalin's murder of
>> millions was simply denied, or concealed by a leftwing conspiracy of
>> silence that continues to this day. In the strange moral geometry of
>> mass murder, only Nazis are guilty.

>> Socialist luminaries like Bernard Shaw, Beatrice and Sidney Webb, and
>> PM Edouard Herriot of France, toured Ukraine during 1932-33, and
>> proclaimed reports of famine were false. Shaw announced, `I did not
>> see one under-nourished person in Russia.' New York Times
>> correspondent Walter Duranty, who won a Pulitzer Prize for his Russian
>> reporting, wrote claims of famine were `malignant propaganda.' Seven
>> million people were dying around them, yet these fools saw nothing.
>> The New York Times has never repudiated Duranty's lies.

>> Modern leftists do not care to be reminded their ideological and
>> historical roots are entwined with this century's greatest crime -
>> Stalin's mass murder machine - the inevitable result of enforced
>> social engineering and marxist theology. Had Germany won the war,
>> today's `reformed' Euro- Nazis would take the same amnesiac approach
>> to Hitler as modern European socialists do to Stalin.

>> Western historians delicately skirt the sordid fact that the
>> governments of Britain, the US, and Canada were fully aware of the
>> Ukrainian genocide and Stalin's other monstrous crimes. Yet they
>> eagerly welcomed him as an ally during World War II. Stalin, whom an
>> adoring Roosevelt called `Uncle Joe,' murdered four times more people
>> than Adolf Hitler - and a decade earlier. Roosevelt and Churchill
>> colluded with and helped save history's most murderous regime. Time to
>> face this ugly fact.

>> None of the Soviet mass murderers who committed genocide were ever
>> brought to justice. `Soviet Eichmann' Lazar Kaganovitch died
>> peacefully in Moscow a few years ago, still wearing his Order of the
>> Soviet Union, and enjoying a generous state pension."




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Vergiss niemals die verfluechte Juden/ZYDS!

McVay is quite right in reposting this very interesting article.
Now that more and more evidence is being revealed about 
ZYD  COLLABORATION  WITH  NAZIS, such as the 
additional  51 cases, besides the notorious KASTNER case, 
one MUST question the HOLOHOAX!!

Even the nototious Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to be a 
willing  Nazi GESTAPO  COLLABORATOR!!

The filthy ZYDS just  manufactured figures, just to steal money 
>from countries=HOLOHOAX-SCHWINDEL!!


On 18 Oct 2004 06:58:42 -0000, Ken McVay  wrote:

>NOTE:  Do not print this out if you reside in  Austria;
>Belgium; France; Germany; Israel; Spain or Switzerland.

>WARNING To People in Austria; Belgium; France; Germany;
>Israel; Spain and Switzerland. You can be fined,
>imprisoned or both for discussing the topics set
>forth in this article.

>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag in Canada,
>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, now finally dying as a
>diseased spreader of AIDS,wants all to know
>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.

>Here is a photo of Ken McVay, director of WWW.NIZKOR.ORG--
>Does he not have the uncouth look as to fit the profile of a
>person who would say in general regarding child porn:
>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and
>have yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn."
>I've seen photos of naked children, ... and fail to see the
>harm, or any great moral danger to our society)."?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>     Would any of you want to leave this person, Ken McVay,
>                alone with your children?

>Here is the latest.......

>Oktober 1998

>Subject.: HOLO-SCHWINDEL OHNE ENDE - HOLO-OBSKURANTEN

>HOLOCAUST SCHWINDEL-ZAHLEN AKTUALISIERT
>EIN PANOPTIKUM DEUTSCHER & OESTERREICHISCHER POLITIKER

>http://www.ostara.org/autor
>http://www.nationaljournal.org

>Wer in diesen beiden, oben genannten Laendern, auch
>Bananenrepubliken genannt, naturgeschichtlich  erwiesene
>und historisch belegbare und beweisbare Fakten ueber den
>Holocaust- und Gaskammer-Schwindel veroeffentlicht, laeuft
>Gefahr wie tausende andere auch, psychiatrierte oder/und
>auf Jahre hinter Gitter zu wandern. Im Vorkriegs-Deutschland,
>zu Beginn Hitlers Machtergreifung gab es lndesweit nur rund
>30.000 kriminelle Gefangene. Null politische.

>Im "freiesten" Deutschland aller Zeiten unter Hennoch Kohn
>explodiert die "normale" Kriminalitaet, Mord und Totschlag,
>Drogen und Drogentote und es befinden sich rund 9000
>poltische Haeftlinge hinter Gitter. Tendenz:  Alles
>rapide steigend bis die Laender voellig kaputt sind.
>
>Welcher freche Schwindel und Luegen mit dem Holocaust getrieben
>wird, moegen die folgenden Zahlen aus oeffentlichen Quellen
>verdeutlichen.
>Die duemmste Aussage kommt jedoch von der Deutschen Bundestags
>Praesidentin Rita Suessmut, eine extrem dumme und geistig
>zurueckgebliebene Dumpfbacke,  die die Holocaustzahlen sogar
>heute noch auf 11 Millionen (!!) hinauslizitiert.
>
>
>Datum		Wo veroeffentlichet				      Zahlen
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>31.12.1945	Franzoesische Ermittlungsstelle			8,0 Mill
>		fuer Nazi-Kriegsverbrechen
>
>20.04.1978	Le Monde (franzoesische Tageszeitung)		5 Mill
>
>23.01.1995	Die Welt					            5 Mill
>
>20.04.1989	Eugen Kogon, Der SS-Staat (Seite 176)		4,5 Mill
>
>31.12.1952	Der Neue Herder (Lexikon, 7. Auflage)		4,5 Mill
>
>01.10.1946	IMT-Dokument 008-USSR
>		(Alliertes Militaergericht N?rnberg)       	4,0 Mill
>
>02.05.1997	USA-Today (groesste Tageszeitung der USA)	      4,0 Mill
>
>24.11.1989  Oberstaatsanwalt Majorowsky
>		(Anklage 12 Js 1037/89)     			      4,0 Mill
>
>26.07.1990	Allgem. Juedische Wochenzeitung (Bonn)		4,0 Mill
>
>08.10.1993  ZDF-Nachrichten					      4,0 Mill
>
>25.01.1995	Wetzlarer Neue Zeitung       			      4.0 Mill
>
>01.10.1946  IMT-Dokument 3868-PS
>		(Alliiertes Militaergericht Nuernberg)		3,0 Mill
>
>01.01.1995	DAMALS (amtliches Bonner Geschichtsmagazin)	3,0 Mill
>
>18.07.1990	The Peninsula Times
>		(Tageszeitung, S.Francisco, USA)    		2,0 Mill
>
>25.07.1990  Hamburger Abendblatt				      2,0 Mill
>
>27.01.1995  Die Welt (Kanzler Kohls "Millonen-Luege")       2,0 Mill
>
>02.05.1997	USA-Today (gruesste Tageszeitung der USA)      	1,5 Mill
>
>11.06.1992 	Allgem. Juedische Wochenzeitung (Bonn)       	1,5 Mill
>
>08.10.1993	ZDF (berichtigendes Schreiben zur Nachricht
>		von "4 Millionen")				      1,5 Mill
>
>23.01.1995	Die Welt					            1,5 Mill
>
>01.09.1989	Le Monde (franzoesische Tageszeitung)		1.43Mill
>
>02.02.1995  BUNTE Illustrierte       			      1,4 Mill
>
>22.01.1995	Welt am Sonntag					      1,2 Mill
>
>27.01.1995	Die Welt       					      1,1 Mill
>
>27.01.1995	IfZ (Institut fuer Zeitgeschichte, Muenchen)	1,0 Mill
>
>31.12.1989	Pressac, Auschwitz, Technique ...
>		(im Auftrag der Klarsfeldstiftung) 		      0,928 Mill
>
>27.09.1993	Die Welt				 	              800.000
>
>22.01.1995  Welt am Sonntag					        750.000
>
>01.05.1994  Focus						              700.000
>
>23.01.1995	Die Welt 					              700.000
>
>31.12.1994	Pressac, Die Krematorien ...
>		(Im Auftrag der Klarsfeldstiftung)		        470.000
>
>08.01.1948	Welt im Film
>		(britische Wochenschau-Reportage Nr. 137)  	  300.000
>
>06.01.1990  Frankfurter Rundschau       			         74.000
>
>31.05.1994	Hoffmann, Stalins Vernichtungskrieg, Seite 302	   74.000
>
>17.08.1994	Internat. Suchdienst Arolsen (Sach Nr.10824)	   66.206
>
>
>Aus dem Werk "Grundlagen zur Zeitgeschichte" entnehmen wir weiters,
>dass die beurkundete Gesamtanzahl aller Sterbefaelle in ALLEN
>deutschen KZ  bei 289.597 lagen. Kann man davon ausgehen, dass
>davon rund 150.000 bis max. 200.000 Juden betroffen waren?
>Auch die in Moskauer Archiven gefundenen Totenbuecher registrierten
>fuer Auschwitz nicht mehr als 70.000 Sterbefaelle.
>
>Hoechst wichtig: Auch der Vatikan, eine  Hochburg der Freimaurerei
>und damit unter juedischer Kontrolle, bzw. der  Papst selbst
>(juedische Abstammung, seine Mutter hiess Katz), denen man wegen
>ihrem Schweigen zum Holocaust und Judenvernichtung (unter Pius XII)
>immer heftiger attackiert, wollte diese Zahlen nicht kommentieren
>sondern der Papst verbeitet nach wie vor die Millionen-Luege
>der Juden.
>
>Waehrend des Krieges betrieb der amerikanische Geheimdienst OSS
>im Vatikan sogar eine Spionage-Zentrale,  wo auch alle Nachrichten
>aus den KZs zusammenliefen.   Es gibt zum Leidwesen der Zionisten
>KEIN einziges Dokument das den Holocaust und die chronischen Luegen und
>Utopien der Juden bestaetigen wuerde. Moeglicherweise arbeitet man
>aber jetzt schon emsig an einer Faelschung eines Dokumentes das man
>wie "zufaellig" in den Keller-Archiven des Vatikans gefunden hat.
>
>Wolfgang Froehlich, den man in einem neuen Machwerk (Das Netz des
>Hasses) des linken  Verbrecher- und Bombenbastler-Vereines DOEW unter
>Wolfgang Neugebauer als wuesten "Antisemiten" bezeichnete, hat zum Thema
>Holocaust ebenfalls einiges Datenmaterial und Fakten gesammelt die
>wir hiermit mit groesster Genugtuung und  Befriedigung praesentieren.
>Wir wollen hoffen, dass dieser Text in moeglichst vielen Schulen
>Oesterreichs und Deutschlands gelesen, studiert und verteilt wird.
>
>Dabei freuen wir uns ganz besonders, die publizierten Luegen dieser
>staatlich subventionierten linken Ganoven-Mafia in ihrem
>Sprachrohr, das rosa freimaurerische Schmutz- und Schundblatt
>STANDARD zu korrigieren. So schreibt Hubertus Czernin am 1. Nov:
>
>"... bei rund 108.000 Internet-Anschluessen im Land macht der Zugriff
>auf die Ostara-Seite nur wenige Promille aus. Sie irren Czernin:
>Dank Ihrer Schmutzkuebel-Werbung im Standard wurden in den letzten
>zwei Wochen mehr 22.000 Zugriffe registriert wobei an Holocaust
>voellig uninteressierte Personen sich rund 200 MB an Daten runtergeholt
>haben.  Wir danken den Schreiberling Czernin und Wolfgang Neugebauer
>auf diese Weise mit dem grossen symbolischen Stalin-Orden.
>Und wie uns der anonyme Betreiber der Webseite freundlichst
>und rechtsverbindlich mitteilte, betraegt der woechentliche
>Zugriff rund 2500, wobei in nur neun Monaten mehr als
>103.000 Zugriffe registriert wurden. Eine sehr schmerzliche Statistik
>fuer den linken Bodensatz und dem stalinistischen Abschaum Oesterreichs.
>
>Die Kernfrage ist, wohin sind Millionen europaeische Juden
>verschwunden? Falls sie ueberhaupt "verschwunden" sind.
>Auch der Brockhaus gibt uns einige Antworten auf diese Frage.
>Aus der folgenden Liste, die auch Wolfgang Frohlich publizierte
>und an hunderte Richter und Staatsanwaelte schickte, entnehmen wir:
>
>Die juedischen Wanderbewegungen im 20. Jahrhundert (aus: Das Recht
>auf Wahrheit von Herbert Schweiger).  Dazu einige wichtige Basiszahlen:
>
>Aus dem Schweizer "ENCYCLOPEDIA LEXIKON" entnehmen wir z.B.
>dass es in ganz Europa vor Hitler 9,8 Millionen Juden gab.
>Nach Hitler waren es noch 4,2 Millionen.
>Halten wir fest, es fehlen also 5.6 Millionen.
>
>Zu Beginn des zweiten Weltkrieges und im deutschen Einflussgebiet
>gab es in Europa max. 3.3 Millionen Juden auf die Hitler "Zugriff"
>hatte.
>Quelle: American Jewish Yearbook, Nr. 43.  Walter Sanning nennt in
>seinem
>Buch The Dissolution of Eastern Jewry, 2. Auflage, 1985 die Zahl von
>2.9 Millionen. Die Baseler Nachrichten vom 13.6.1946 behaupten, dass es
>hoechstens 3 Millionen gewesen sind.
>
>Juedische Bevoelkerung	1930	1938	   1968	   Gesamt  Zuwachs 1930-1968
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>---
>Israel		      285.000	410.000	 3,100.000	     2,815.000
>USA	                 4,4 Mill    4,7 Mill      6.200.000	     1,738.400
>Suedamerika             306.000	373.600	   762.700	       456.000
>Kanada		      140.000	160.000	   280.000	       140.000
>Frankreich	            225.000	270.000	   535.000	       310.000
>England		      300.000	340.000	   410.000	       110.000
>Australien	             25.000	 27.000	    74.000	        50.000
>Suedafrika	             60.000	100.000	   114.000	        54.000
>
>SUMME		          5,783.000   6,360.000     11.456.000	    + 5,7 Mill.
>
>Im Klartext:  Das europaeische Judentum "verlor" keine 6 Millionen durch
>den Holocaust, sondern hauptsaechlich durch Migration und Auswanderung.
>Rund 1,5 Millionen wanderten nach dem Krieg aus Europa in die typischen
>Einwanderungslaender aus.
>
>Trotz dieser enormen Diskrepanzen  haben bis zum 1. Juli 1980 mehr als
>5 Millionen "Holocaust-Ueberlebende" Antraege auf Wiedergutmachung
>gestellt und 4,346.608 wurden auch bewilligt. Wie ist dieser
>rein rechnerische Schwachsinn moeglich?
>
>Die folgenden Zahlen beweisen in noch deutlicheren Form welcher
>Schwindel
>mit dem Holocaust und "Wiedergutmachungen" getrieben wird.
>Die Zahlen der juedischen Weltbevoelkerung stammen ausschliesslich
>aus juedischen Quellen.
>
>Vor dem 2. Weltkieg:
>
>The National Council of Churches, USA 1930		15,0 Mill
>Jewish Encyclopedia, USA 1933				      15,6 Mill
>World Almanach (Jewish Committee 1939)			15,6 Mill
>
>NACH DEM 2. WELTKRIEG:
>
>World Almanach (American Jewish Committee, USA)
>1945							            15,19 Mill
>1946							            15,75 Mill
>1947							            15,69 Mill
>1948							            15,50 Mill
>New York Times, div. Meldungen, 1948	   15,7 bis 18,60 Mill
>World Almanach, 1949					      15,50 Mill
>World Almanach, 1950					      11,50 Mill
>National Council of Churches, USA, 1951			15,31 Mill
>
>Aus diesen Zahlen ist klar und deutlich ersichtlich, dass der
>Holocaust nicht zwischen 1939 und 1942 stattgefunden hat,
>sondern erst 1950 bzw. 1949 (!)
>
>Oesterreichische  (und auch Deutsche) Leser dieser Berichte
>werden aber diese Zahlen in Oesterreich  NICHT
>nachvollziehen koennen. Das bolschewistische System dieser beiden
>Laender hat dafuer gesorgt, dass fast alle original Lexiken und
>Geschichtswerke bis 1950 aus allen Bibliotheken des Landes entfernt
>wurden oder/und nicht zugreifbar sind.
>Das Volk soll, nein, muss dumm sterben.
>
>Seltsamerweise verschwanden in allen Lexiken und Jahrbuechern
>anno 1950 - je nachdem welcher Verlag -  4-6 Millionen Juden spurlos.
>Und entgegen vieler Geruechte, sie emigrierten  auch NICHT auf den Mars
>oder flogen mit UFOs zum Aldebaran.
>
>Und noch seltsamer ist, dass diese 4 Millionen Juden  ausgerechnet
>zu einem Zeitpunkt  (1950) spurlos verschwanden, nachdem auch der
>damalige deutsche Bundeskanzler und Krypto-Jude Konrad Adenauer
>sein Land verraten hatte und mit Nahum Goldmann neue
>"Wiedergutmachungs-Verhandlungen" fuehrte.  Dann musste man aber
>frech, aus allen Lexiken 4 Millionen Menschen verschwinden lassen.
>Damit die Statistik wieder "stimmt" Oder fand der "Holocaust"
>gar schon 1949 statt, nach Redaktionsschluss des juedischen
>"Welt-Almanachs".
>
>Egal wie man das Thema Holocaust auch dreht und wendet und die Zahlen
>faelscht, Tatsache ist und bleibt, dass man auf Kosten Millionen
>von unschuldigen Menschen auf viele Generationen hinweg,
>mit Hilfe gekaufter Politiker einen gigantischen Betrug inszenierte.
>Oesterreich zahlte fuer diesen frechen Schwindel bereits die
>gigantische Summe von weit mehr als 300 Milliarden AS
>(rund 25 Milliarden US $)
>
>Wie hoch und wie lange die ewigen "Wiedergutmachungs-Zahlungen",
>das Abkassieren und Absahnen ohne Ende noch werden wird,
>darueber werden wir - sofern es dann das Internet noch gibt -
>und unsere Enkelkinder mit ohnmaechtigen Zorn berichten koennen.
>Bis dahin finden sich immer wieder rueckgratlose Kreaturen
>und Kanalratten die ihr Land und das Volk fuer wenige Silberlinge
>verraten und verkaufen.  Wie z.B. Viktor Klima, der dumm
>grinsend, auf Grund einer internationalen Raubgold-Konferenz
>in London Ende 1997 bzw. 1998 eindeutig oesterreichisches
>Waehrungsgold in der Hoehe von rund 110 Millionen AS einfach
>an die Juden und Netanyahu verschenkte.
>
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>is a revolutionary act."
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages.
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org


Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


 wrote:

HENRY FORD (The Dearborn Independent, 12-19 February 1921): Jews have
always controlled the business. . . The motion picture influence of
the United States and Canada . . . is exclusively under the control,
moral and financial, of the Jewish manipulators of the public mind.

At one time, anti-Semites were considered to be people who did not like Jews.
Now, anti-Semites are people whom the Jews don't like.  Jews use the term as a
weapon to smear people who for one reason or another they don't like. They use
it to keep politicians in line who might otherwise stray from the Jewish
agenda and they  use it to label revisionists as 'holocaust deniers' I have
been "branded by the Jews" and am proud to be in the esteemed company of the
following:

T.S. Eliot; Norman Finkelstein; Father Coughlin; 
John Wayne;  Joseph P. Kennedy; Charles Lindburgh;
George Lincoln Rockwell; Marlon Brando; Robert Mitchum; 
Richard Nixon; Henry Ford Sr.; Walt Disney; David Irving;
H.L. Mencken; Kurt Waldheim; Napoleon; Bismarck; Claudis;
Voltaire; George Ball; Israel Shahak; Joe Sobran; Gerald L.K. Smith;
Karl Marx; William Dudley Pelley; Cicero; Heinriche Heine;
Oswald Mosley; Rowland Evans; Robert Novak; Anthony Lewis; Charles Dickens;
Patrick Buchanan; Benjamin Friedman; Martin Luther; Mahomet;
Bruno Bauer;  Elizabeth Dilling; Senator Burton Wheeler

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.


Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late
nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
work:(780)492-0473



For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
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Vergiss niemals die verfluechte Juden/ZYDS!

McVay is quite right in reposting this very interesting article.
Now that more and more evidence is being revealed about 
ZYD  COLLABORATION  WITH  NAZIS, such as the 
additional  51 cases, besides the notorious KASTNER case, 
one MUST question the HOLOHOAX!!

Even the nototious Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to be a 
willing  Nazi GESTAPO  COLLABORATOR!!

The filthy ZYDS just  manufactured figures, just to steal money 
>from countries=HOLOHOAX-SCHWINDEL!!


On 18 Oct 2004 06:58:42 -0000, Ken McVay  wrote:

>NOTE:  Do not print this out if you reside in  Austria;
>Belgium; France; Germany; Israel; Spain or Switzerland.

>WARNING To People in Austria; Belgium; France; Germany;
>Israel; Spain and Switzerland. You can be fined,
>imprisoned or both for discussing the topics set
>forth in this article.

>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag in Canada,
>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, now finally dying as a
>diseased spreader of AIDS,wants all to know
>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.

>Here is a photo of Ken McVay, director of WWW.NIZKOR.ORG--
>Does he not have the uncouth look as to fit the profile of a
>person who would say in general regarding child porn:
>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and
>have yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn."
>I've seen photos of naked children, ... and fail to see the
>harm, or any great moral danger to our society)."?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>     Would any of you want to leave this person, Ken McVay,
>                alone with your children?

>Here is the latest.......

>Oktober 1998

>Subject.: HOLO-SCHWINDEL OHNE ENDE - HOLO-OBSKURANTEN

>HOLOCAUST SCHWINDEL-ZAHLEN AKTUALISIERT
>EIN PANOPTIKUM DEUTSCHER & OESTERREICHISCHER POLITIKER

>http://www.ostara.org/autor
>http://www.nationaljournal.org

>Wer in diesen beiden, oben genannten Laendern, auch
>Bananenrepubliken genannt, naturgeschichtlich  erwiesene
>und historisch belegbare und beweisbare Fakten ueber den
>Holocaust- und Gaskammer-Schwindel veroeffentlicht, laeuft
>Gefahr wie tausende andere auch, psychiatrierte oder/und
>auf Jahre hinter Gitter zu wandern. Im Vorkriegs-Deutschland,
>zu Beginn Hitlers Machtergreifung gab es lndesweit nur rund
>30.000 kriminelle Gefangene. Null politische.

>Im "freiesten" Deutschland aller Zeiten unter Hennoch Kohn
>explodiert die "normale" Kriminalitaet, Mord und Totschlag,
>Drogen und Drogentote und es befinden sich rund 9000
>poltische Haeftlinge hinter Gitter. Tendenz:  Alles
>rapide steigend bis die Laender voellig kaputt sind.
>
>Welcher freche Schwindel und Luegen mit dem Holocaust getrieben
>wird, moegen die folgenden Zahlen aus oeffentlichen Quellen
>verdeutlichen.
>Die duemmste Aussage kommt jedoch von der Deutschen Bundestags
>Praesidentin Rita Suessmut, eine extrem dumme und geistig
>zurueckgebliebene Dumpfbacke,  die die Holocaustzahlen sogar
>heute noch auf 11 Millionen (!!) hinauslizitiert.
>
>
>Datum		Wo veroeffentlichet				      Zahlen
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>31.12.1945	Franzoesische Ermittlungsstelle			8,0 Mill
>		fuer Nazi-Kriegsverbrechen
>
>20.04.1978	Le Monde (franzoesische Tageszeitung)		5 Mill
>
>23.01.1995	Die Welt					            5 Mill
>
>20.04.1989	Eugen Kogon, Der SS-Staat (Seite 176)		4,5 Mill
>
>31.12.1952	Der Neue Herder (Lexikon, 7. Auflage)		4,5 Mill
>
>01.10.1946	IMT-Dokument 008-USSR
>		(Alliertes Militaergericht N?rnberg)       	4,0 Mill
>
>02.05.1997	USA-Today (groesste Tageszeitung der USA)	      4,0 Mill
>
>24.11.1989  Oberstaatsanwalt Majorowsky
>		(Anklage 12 Js 1037/89)     			      4,0 Mill
>
>26.07.1990	Allgem. Juedische Wochenzeitung (Bonn)		4,0 Mill
>
>08.10.1993  ZDF-Nachrichten					      4,0 Mill
>
>25.01.1995	Wetzlarer Neue Zeitung       			      4.0 Mill
>
>01.10.1946  IMT-Dokument 3868-PS
>		(Alliiertes Militaergericht Nuernberg)		3,0 Mill
>
>01.01.1995	DAMALS (amtliches Bonner Geschichtsmagazin)	3,0 Mill
>
>18.07.1990	The Peninsula Times
>		(Tageszeitung, S.Francisco, USA)    		2,0 Mill
>
>25.07.1990  Hamburger Abendblatt				      2,0 Mill
>
>27.01.1995  Die Welt (Kanzler Kohls "Millonen-Luege")       2,0 Mill
>
>02.05.1997	USA-Today (gruesste Tageszeitung der USA)      	1,5 Mill
>
>11.06.1992 	Allgem. Juedische Wochenzeitung (Bonn)       	1,5 Mill
>
>08.10.1993	ZDF (berichtigendes Schreiben zur Nachricht
>		von "4 Millionen")				      1,5 Mill
>
>23.01.1995	Die Welt					            1,5 Mill
>
>01.09.1989	Le Monde (franzoesische Tageszeitung)		1.43Mill
>
>02.02.1995  BUNTE Illustrierte       			      1,4 Mill
>
>22.01.1995	Welt am Sonntag					      1,2 Mill
>
>27.01.1995	Die Welt       					      1,1 Mill
>
>27.01.1995	IfZ (Institut fuer Zeitgeschichte, Muenchen)	1,0 Mill
>
>31.12.1989	Pressac, Auschwitz, Technique ...
>		(im Auftrag der Klarsfeldstiftung) 		      0,928 Mill
>
>27.09.1993	Die Welt				 	              800.000
>
>22.01.1995  Welt am Sonntag					        750.000
>
>01.05.1994  Focus						              700.000
>
>23.01.1995	Die Welt 					              700.000
>
>31.12.1994	Pressac, Die Krematorien ...
>		(Im Auftrag der Klarsfeldstiftung)		        470.000
>
>08.01.1948	Welt im Film
>		(britische Wochenschau-Reportage Nr. 137)  	  300.000
>
>06.01.1990  Frankfurter Rundschau       			         74.000
>
>31.05.1994	Hoffmann, Stalins Vernichtungskrieg, Seite 302	   74.000
>
>17.08.1994	Internat. Suchdienst Arolsen (Sach Nr.10824)	   66.206
>
>
>Aus dem Werk "Grundlagen zur Zeitgeschichte" entnehmen wir weiters,
>dass die beurkundete Gesamtanzahl aller Sterbefaelle in ALLEN
>deutschen KZ  bei 289.597 lagen. Kann man davon ausgehen, dass
>davon rund 150.000 bis max. 200.000 Juden betroffen waren?
>Auch die in Moskauer Archiven gefundenen Totenbuecher registrierten
>fuer Auschwitz nicht mehr als 70.000 Sterbefaelle.
>
>Hoechst wichtig: Auch der Vatikan, eine  Hochburg der Freimaurerei
>und damit unter juedischer Kontrolle, bzw. der  Papst selbst
>(juedische Abstammung, seine Mutter hiess Katz), denen man wegen
>ihrem Schweigen zum Holocaust und Judenvernichtung (unter Pius XII)
>immer heftiger attackiert, wollte diese Zahlen nicht kommentieren
>sondern der Papst verbeitet nach wie vor die Millionen-Luege
>der Juden.
>
>Waehrend des Krieges betrieb der amerikanische Geheimdienst OSS
>im Vatikan sogar eine Spionage-Zentrale,  wo auch alle Nachrichten
>aus den KZs zusammenliefen.   Es gibt zum Leidwesen der Zionisten
>KEIN einziges Dokument das den Holocaust und die chronischen Luegen und
>Utopien der Juden bestaetigen wuerde. Moeglicherweise arbeitet man
>aber jetzt schon emsig an einer Faelschung eines Dokumentes das man
>wie "zufaellig" in den Keller-Archiven des Vatikans gefunden hat.
>
>Wolfgang Froehlich, den man in einem neuen Machwerk (Das Netz des
>Hasses) des linken  Verbrecher- und Bombenbastler-Vereines DOEW unter
>Wolfgang Neugebauer als wuesten "Antisemiten" bezeichnete, hat zum Thema
>Holocaust ebenfalls einiges Datenmaterial und Fakten gesammelt die
>wir hiermit mit groesster Genugtuung und  Befriedigung praesentieren.
>Wir wollen hoffen, dass dieser Text in moeglichst vielen Schulen
>Oesterreichs und Deutschlands gelesen, studiert und verteilt wird.
>
>Dabei freuen wir uns ganz besonders, die publizierten Luegen dieser
>staatlich subventionierten linken Ganoven-Mafia in ihrem
>Sprachrohr, das rosa freimaurerische Schmutz- und Schundblatt
>STANDARD zu korrigieren. So schreibt Hubertus Czernin am 1. Nov:
>
>"... bei rund 108.000 Internet-Anschluessen im Land macht der Zugriff
>auf die Ostara-Seite nur wenige Promille aus. Sie irren Czernin:
>Dank Ihrer Schmutzkuebel-Werbung im Standard wurden in den letzten
>zwei Wochen mehr 22.000 Zugriffe registriert wobei an Holocaust
>voellig uninteressierte Personen sich rund 200 MB an Daten runtergeholt
>haben.  Wir danken den Schreiberling Czernin und Wolfgang Neugebauer
>auf diese Weise mit dem grossen symbolischen Stalin-Orden.
>Und wie uns der anonyme Betreiber der Webseite freundlichst
>und rechtsverbindlich mitteilte, betraegt der woechentliche
>Zugriff rund 2500, wobei in nur neun Monaten mehr als
>103.000 Zugriffe registriert wurden. Eine sehr schmerzliche Statistik
>fuer den linken Bodensatz und dem stalinistischen Abschaum Oesterreichs.
>
>Die Kernfrage ist, wohin sind Millionen europaeische Juden
>verschwunden? Falls sie ueberhaupt "verschwunden" sind.
>Auch der Brockhaus gibt uns einige Antworten auf diese Frage.
>Aus der folgenden Liste, die auch Wolfgang Frohlich publizierte
>und an hunderte Richter und Staatsanwaelte schickte, entnehmen wir:
>
>Die juedischen Wanderbewegungen im 20. Jahrhundert (aus: Das Recht
>auf Wahrheit von Herbert Schweiger).  Dazu einige wichtige Basiszahlen:
>
>Aus dem Schweizer "ENCYCLOPEDIA LEXIKON" entnehmen wir z.B.
>dass es in ganz Europa vor Hitler 9,8 Millionen Juden gab.
>Nach Hitler waren es noch 4,2 Millionen.
>Halten wir fest, es fehlen also 5.6 Millionen.
>
>Zu Beginn des zweiten Weltkrieges und im deutschen Einflussgebiet
>gab es in Europa max. 3.3 Millionen Juden auf die Hitler "Zugriff"
>hatte.
>Quelle: American Jewish Yearbook, Nr. 43.  Walter Sanning nennt in
>seinem
>Buch The Dissolution of Eastern Jewry, 2. Auflage, 1985 die Zahl von
>2.9 Millionen. Die Baseler Nachrichten vom 13.6.1946 behaupten, dass es
>hoechstens 3 Millionen gewesen sind.
>
>Juedische Bevoelkerung	1930	1938	   1968	   Gesamt  Zuwachs 1930-1968
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>---
>Israel		      285.000	410.000	 3,100.000	     2,815.000
>USA	                 4,4 Mill    4,7 Mill      6.200.000	     1,738.400
>Suedamerika             306.000	373.600	   762.700	       456.000
>Kanada		      140.000	160.000	   280.000	       140.000
>Frankreich	            225.000	270.000	   535.000	       310.000
>England		      300.000	340.000	   410.000	       110.000
>Australien	             25.000	 27.000	    74.000	        50.000
>Suedafrika	             60.000	100.000	   114.000	        54.000
>
>SUMME		          5,783.000   6,360.000     11.456.000	    + 5,7 Mill.
>
>Im Klartext:  Das europaeische Judentum "verlor" keine 6 Millionen durch
>den Holocaust, sondern hauptsaechlich durch Migration und Auswanderung.
>Rund 1,5 Millionen wanderten nach dem Krieg aus Europa in die typischen
>Einwanderungslaender aus.
>
>Trotz dieser enormen Diskrepanzen  haben bis zum 1. Juli 1980 mehr als
>5 Millionen "Holocaust-Ueberlebende" Antraege auf Wiedergutmachung
>gestellt und 4,346.608 wurden auch bewilligt. Wie ist dieser
>rein rechnerische Schwachsinn moeglich?
>
>Die folgenden Zahlen beweisen in noch deutlicheren Form welcher
>Schwindel
>mit dem Holocaust und "Wiedergutmachungen" getrieben wird.
>Die Zahlen der juedischen Weltbevoelkerung stammen ausschliesslich
>aus juedischen Quellen.
>
>Vor dem 2. Weltkieg:
>
>The National Council of Churches, USA 1930		15,0 Mill
>Jewish Encyclopedia, USA 1933				      15,6 Mill
>World Almanach (Jewish Committee 1939)			15,6 Mill
>
>NACH DEM 2. WELTKRIEG:
>
>World Almanach (American Jewish Committee, USA)
>1945							            15,19 Mill
>1946							            15,75 Mill
>1947							            15,69 Mill
>1948							            15,50 Mill
>New York Times, div. Meldungen, 1948	   15,7 bis 18,60 Mill
>World Almanach, 1949					      15,50 Mill
>World Almanach, 1950					      11,50 Mill
>National Council of Churches, USA, 1951			15,31 Mill
>
>Aus diesen Zahlen ist klar und deutlich ersichtlich, dass der
>Holocaust nicht zwischen 1939 und 1942 stattgefunden hat,
>sondern erst 1950 bzw. 1949 (!)
>
>Oesterreichische  (und auch Deutsche) Leser dieser Berichte
>werden aber diese Zahlen in Oesterreich  NICHT
>nachvollziehen koennen. Das bolschewistische System dieser beiden
>Laender hat dafuer gesorgt, dass fast alle original Lexiken und
>Geschichtswerke bis 1950 aus allen Bibliotheken des Landes entfernt
>wurden oder/und nicht zugreifbar sind.
>Das Volk soll, nein, muss dumm sterben.
>
>Seltsamerweise verschwanden in allen Lexiken und Jahrbuechern
>anno 1950 - je nachdem welcher Verlag -  4-6 Millionen Juden spurlos.
>Und entgegen vieler Geruechte, sie emigrierten  auch NICHT auf den Mars
>oder flogen mit UFOs zum Aldebaran.
>
>Und noch seltsamer ist, dass diese 4 Millionen Juden  ausgerechnet
>zu einem Zeitpunkt  (1950) spurlos verschwanden, nachdem auch der
>damalige deutsche Bundeskanzler und Krypto-Jude Konrad Adenauer
>sein Land verraten hatte und mit Nahum Goldmann neue
>"Wiedergutmachungs-Verhandlungen" fuehrte.  Dann musste man aber
>frech, aus allen Lexiken 4 Millionen Menschen verschwinden lassen.
>Damit die Statistik wieder "stimmt" Oder fand der "Holocaust"
>gar schon 1949 statt, nach Redaktionsschluss des juedischen
>"Welt-Almanachs".
>
>Egal wie man das Thema Holocaust auch dreht und wendet und die Zahlen
>faelscht, Tatsache ist und bleibt, dass man auf Kosten Millionen
>von unschuldigen Menschen auf viele Generationen hinweg,
>mit Hilfe gekaufter Politiker einen gigantischen Betrug inszenierte.
>Oesterreich zahlte fuer diesen frechen Schwindel bereits die
>gigantische Summe von weit mehr als 300 Milliarden AS
>(rund 25 Milliarden US $)
>
>Wie hoch und wie lange die ewigen "Wiedergutmachungs-Zahlungen",
>das Abkassieren und Absahnen ohne Ende noch werden wird,
>darueber werden wir - sofern es dann das Internet noch gibt -
>und unsere Enkelkinder mit ohnmaechtigen Zorn berichten koennen.
>Bis dahin finden sich immer wieder rueckgratlose Kreaturen
>und Kanalratten die ihr Land und das Volk fuer wenige Silberlinge
>verraten und verkaufen.  Wie z.B. Viktor Klima, der dumm
>grinsend, auf Grund einer internationalen Raubgold-Konferenz
>in London Ende 1997 bzw. 1998 eindeutig oesterreichisches
>Waehrungsgold in der Hoehe von rund 110 Millionen AS einfach
>an die Juden und Netanyahu verschenkte.
>
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>is a revolutionary act."
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages.
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org


Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


 wrote:

HENRY FORD (The Dearborn Independent, 12-19 February 1921): Jews have
always controlled the business. . . The motion picture influence of
the United States and Canada . . . is exclusively under the control,
moral and financial, of the Jewish manipulators of the public mind.

At one time, anti-Semites were considered to be people who did not like Jews.
Now, anti-Semites are people whom the Jews don't like.  Jews use the term as a
weapon to smear people who for one reason or another they don't like. They use
it to keep politicians in line who might otherwise stray from the Jewish
agenda and they  use it to label revisionists as 'holocaust deniers' I have
been "branded by the Jews" and am proud to be in the esteemed company of the
following:

T.S. Eliot; Norman Finkelstein; Father Coughlin; 
John Wayne;  Joseph P. Kennedy; Charles Lindburgh;
George Lincoln Rockwell; Marlon Brando; Robert Mitchum; 
Richard Nixon; Henry Ford Sr.; Walt Disney; David Irving;
H.L. Mencken; Kurt Waldheim; Napoleon; Bismarck; Claudis;
Voltaire; George Ball; Israel Shahak; Joe Sobran; Gerald L.K. Smith;
Karl Marx; William Dudley Pelley; Cicero; Heinriche Heine;
Oswald Mosley; Rowland Evans; Robert Novak; Anthony Lewis; Charles Dickens;
Patrick Buchanan; Benjamin Friedman; Martin Luther; Mahomet;
Bruno Bauer;  Elizabeth Dilling; Senator Burton Wheeler

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


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Subject: "Thieving ZYD  Demszky" - 50,000 Hungarians protest 'international money' in Budapest
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 08:21:14 -0600
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"Thieving Jew Demszky" - 50,000 Hungarians protest 'international money' in
Budapest

On 25 Sep 2006 02:19:28 -0700, in alt.politics.nationalism.white
ingui777@yahoo.com wrote:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,13509-2371248,00.html

WAVING the Hungarian flag with a burnt-out hole in the centre, a legion
of far-right protesters tramped through Budapest yesterday in an
attempt to take the helm of the country's revolt against the
Government.

"We just want an honest Government, not one driven by foreign
money," said Henrik Windberg, a 27-year-old cab driver whose black
sweatshirt read: "I'm a Gentile."

When speaking to reporters, Hungarian nationalists have become more
cautious about voicing the kind of anti-Semitism that bubbles over in
their closed sessions. "I'm proud to be a Christian, and to be a
Hungarian," was as far as Mr Windberg would go. Their graffiti is
less restrained. "Thieving Jew Demszky," say the daubed slogans,
referring to Gábor Demszky, the Mayor of Budapest.

The rally yesterday was organised by the Hungarian Justice and Life
party (MIEP), one of two extremist groupings at the hub of the
anti-government protest since they combined to bring the country to the
brink of chaos six days ago. The other is Jobbik (Movement for a Better
Hungary).

The leader of MIEP, István Csurka, a bear-like white-haired
72-year-old playwright, is one of the most sinister figures in the
nationalist undergrowth of Central Europe. His anti-Semitic rhetoric,
denouncing Jews for their collaboration with communists and their role
in global finance, is familiar territory. But Mr Csurka takes prejudice
to crazy heights: 178 Hungarian estate agencies, he claimed, are in
Jewish hands in a secret attempt to buy up the country. "This party
is anti-Western, anti-capitalist, anti-communist and anti-liberal, and
believes that all these enemies are either Jewish or commanded by
Jews," Miklós Haraszti, a former dissident, said.

Mr Csurka has slipped in and out of Parliament over the past decade.
Currently he is out and MIEP and Jobbik - who have formed an alliance
called the Third Way - are counting on the unrest to win votes in
local council elections on October 1. That means banging the drum at
rallies across the country.

Mr Csurka and his friends are exploiting a power vacuum. Fidesz, the
mainstream conservative party led by Viktor Orbán, first let the genie
out of the bottle. "In exchange for MIEP's support, Mr Orbán
refused to distance himself from Csurka's views," Mr Haraszti wrote
in an analysis of the Hungarian right wing. Now MIEP and Jobbik are
using the anti-government rallies to break free and carve out their own
identity again.

"This is not a spontaneous people's uprising," said Krisztián
Szabados, a political scientist from the Political Capital research
group. "Orbán sucked up the whole of the right-wing political
spectrum over the past few years - now he can no longer control the
mob."

The interplay of the Hungarian right-wing groups can best be observed
through the windows of Café Parliament, which looks out on to the
green common in front of Parliament. From the café Mr Csurka's
lieutenants send text messages to their people in the crowd,
determining which speaker should address the protesters next. By day,
the anti-government rallies are little more than soapbox politics,
where people shout for a Greater Hungary, bemoan the lot of ethnic
Hungarians in Romania and lament the betrayal of the Hungarian nation.
MIEP rules. As dusk falls, the crowd swells with Fidesz supporters
leaving their offices. The tone becomes milder, except when denouncing
the Prime Minister. After midnight the crowd melts away and the
hardened football hooligans take over, searching for historically
poignant targets (identified for them by MIEP strategists) or simply
out for a scrap with the police. Goulash has many ingredients and so,
too, does this Goulash Revolt.

Dismay at higher health and pension contributions, the sense that
Hungary is becoming suddenly poorer, stirs up a yearning for a time
when the country was powerful and sovereign. When was that? Nobody is
entirely sure, but the ultranationalists know that nostalgia and
self-pity are potent emotions that can be used to their tactical
advantage.



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How Many Survivors Are There?
No wonder people distrust the Christkiller ZYDS!

On 15 Aug 2006 06:29:08 -0700, in alt.revisionism "GB" 
wrote:

How Many Survivors Are There?
Studies counted on to allocate funds for the distressed are far apart
on the number.
Stewart Ain - Staff Writer

Two new studies to determine the location of Jewish Holocaust
survivors, for use in making future allocations to the most needy,
differ widely on the number of survivors worldwide, The Jewish Week has
learned.

Sergio Della Pergola, a demographer for the Institute of Contemporary
Jewry at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, found 1,092,000 survivors
worldwide. Jacob Ukeles, a policy researcher in Manhattan, found
688,000.

The Ukeles survey, an update of one he prepared in 2000 for the
Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against Germany, found only minor
differences from his previous effort.

Lawrence Eagleburger, chairman of the International Commission on
Holocaust Era Insurance Claims, commissioned both surveys.

Eagleburger had hoped to use the figures in determining how to
distribute $13.2 million annually in humanitarian funds for needy
survivors worldwide. The funds were obtained as part of a settlement
for unpaid Holocaust-era insurance claims against German and other
European companies.

Brooklyn Federal Judge Edward Korman, who is presiding over the $1.25
billion Swiss bank settlement, has been using the original Ukeles
survey to allocate money to needy Jewish survivors.

Both surveys found the highest percentage of Jewish survivors are
living in Israel. In his updated version, Ukeles reported the figure at
265,000, or 38.5 percent. Della Pergola put the number at 511,000, or
46.8 percent.

The numbers breakdown of where survivors are living:


The United States: Ukeles, 110,000 survivors, or 16 percent; Della
Pergola, 174,000, or 15.9 percent.

Europe: Ukeles, 126,000, or 18.3 percent; Della Pergola, 229,000, or 21
percent.

The former Soviet Union: Ukeles, 150,000, or 21.8 percent; Della
Pergola, 146,000, or 13.4 percent.

Other parts of the world: Ukeles, 38,000, or 5.5 percent; Della
Pergola, 32,000, or 2.9 percent.

The difference in the studies stems from the fact that Della Pergola
included as survivors Jews who lived in Arab countries - Morocco,
Tunisia, Libya, Syria, Lebanon and Algeria - that passed anti-Jewish
laws. Ukeles did not.

Asked his reaction to the disparities, Ukeles said that since their
purpose is to determine allocations based on need, a new needs
assessment study might be in order.

In such a study in 2000 for the Claims Conference, Ukeles found 119,000
survivors in the former Soviet Union in need - almost double that of
any other area.

Gideon Taylor, executive vice president of the Claims Conference, said
his organization's allocations committee would be meeting Monday to
vote on staff recommendations for the allocation of more than $50
million.

Taylor said the staff considered both the Della Pergola and Ukeles
studies, as well as recent needs studies performed in the United
States, Israel and the former Soviet Union. He said those studies would
soon be posted on his organization's Web site.

Elan Steinberg, executive vice president of the World Jewish Congress,
said despite the different number of survivors in the studies, the
percentage of Jews does not differ markedly except in Israel and the
former Soviet Union.

He said Della Pergola's figures represent a "dramatic shift" in
populations that "call into question the basis on which distributions
have been made."

Taylor stressed that both the Claims Conference and the World Jewish
Restitution Organization "can only act in an empirical manner" and
thus must base their allocations "on the most recent statistics and
on the basis of where the greatest needs are."

The allocations committee of the Claims Conference will be submitting
its recommendations to its full membership in coming weeks. Steinberg
said the WJC, a member of the Claims Conference, would take into
consideration Della Pergola's statistics when voting on the
committee's recommendations.

Israel Singer, president of the Claims Conference, said that instead of
each organization determining on its own how best to allocate
settlement monies to needy survivors, there should be a "global,
coordinated strategy" in determining allocations. He said it should
apply to the insurance and Swiss bank settlements, as well as the
allocations from the Claims Conference.

Samuel Dubbin, an attorney for the Holocaust Survivors Foundation,
welcomed such a move. He said he is convinced that if there was a
global allocation, "there would be enough funds available to meet the
needs of survivors all over the world."

Singer said he would be meeting shortly after Thanksgiving with Korman
to review the latest demographic statistics and to discuss the global
allocation idea.

"I'd love the judge to look at it and if he has to make allocations
earlier, it does not mean we can't reassess our allocations based on
what he does," Singer said.

Singer stressed that all of the settlements combined, along with money
the Claims Conference obtains from various sources, contains hundreds
of millions of dollars that together might meet the needs of survivors
for the next five years.

Any distribution plans that call for allocations beyond that time frame
should be shortened, he said.

"Survivors are dying at the rate of 15 percent a year," Singer
said. "We should telescope the amount of time allocations are
made."

In addition, Singer said the money must go directly to help survivors.
If the survivors have moved, they should still receive the money if
they are in need.

"The money should not be an entitlement for places but for
individuals," he said.

At a meeting this week in Jerusalem, the executive committee of the
Claims Conference decided to press the German government to provide
funds for homecare for Holocaust survivors in need worldwide.

Dubbin pointed out that the Association of Jewish Family and
Children's Services Agencies in 2002 estimated that a minimum of $30
million is needed annually to care for needy survivors in the United
States.
http://www.thejewishweek.com/news/newscontent.php3?artid=8774

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Subject: Wie jüdische Bankiers die Oktoberrevolution finanzierten
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On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 18:37:04 +0200, in de.soc.politik.misc Werner Schneider
 wrote:

Westliche jüdische Kreise waren schon lange vor 1917 daran interessiert, das
Zarenreich zu beseitigen.
1917 ergab sich die Gelegenheit dazu, man musste nur die entsprechenden
Zahlungen auf den Weg bringen.

Dazu reiste Trotzki nach New York und nahm von Jakob Schiff, Hauptaktionär 
des jüdischen Bankhauses Kuhn Loeb & Co., 10 Millionen Dollar entgegen (heute
etwa 150 Mio Dollar), meist in kleinen Goldmünzen, die in Russland an
zaristische Soldaten verteilt wurden. Am 27.3.1917 ging Trotzki an Bord des
Schiffes "Christiana" und reiste nach Russland, wobei er noch
jüdisch-russische Revolutionäre mitnahm.

Eine zweite grosse Finanztranche erhielten die Bolschewiki über Max Warburg,
jüdisch-deutscher Bankier und Chef des deutschen Geheimdienstes
während des 1.Weltkrieges. Sein Bruder Paul war übrigens Chef der amerikan.
Federal Reserve Bank.
Gezahlt wurden durch den Warburg-Mittelsmann Parvus 6 Millionen Dollar in Gold
(heute etwa 100 Mio $), und zwar an Lenin, die dieser bei seiner Durchreise
1917 mitnahm.

Kuhn Loeb & Co. arbeitete auch nach der Revolution bestens mit den Bolschewiki
zusammen. Das Bankhaus beteiligte sich an der Finanzierung des ersten
Fünfjahrplanes. 600 Millionen Dollar in Gold gingen allerdings von Russland an
Kuhn Loeb.

Es ist schon bemerkenswert gewesen:
Jüdische Erzkapitalisten verhelfen den Verstaatlichern in Russland zum Sieg
und machen mit ihnen beste Geschäfte.

Ach so, jaja, die Quellen:

Sutton, Anthony C., Wallstreet and the Bolshevik
Revolution, Arlington House, 1974

Pearson, Michael, Der plombierte Wagen - Lenins Weg
aus dem Exil zur Macht, München 1973

Werner

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Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
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Vergiss niemals die verfluechte Juden/ZYDS!

McVay is quite right in reposting this very interesting article.
Now that more and more evidence is being revealed about 
ZYD  COLLABORATION  WITH  NAZIS, such as the 
additional  51 cases, besides the notorious KASTNER case, 
one MUST question the HOLOHOAX!!

Even the nototious Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to be a 
willing  Nazi GESTAPO  COLLABORATOR!!

The filthy ZYDS just  manufactured figures, just to steal money 
>from countries=HOLOHOAX-SCHWINDEL!!


On 18 Oct 2004 06:58:42 -0000, Ken McVay  wrote:

>NOTE:  Do not print this out if you reside in  Austria;
>Belgium; France; Germany; Israel; Spain or Switzerland.

>WARNING To People in Austria; Belgium; France; Germany;
>Israel; Spain and Switzerland. You can be fined,
>imprisoned or both for discussing the topics set
>forth in this article.

>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag in Canada,
>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, now finally dying as a
>diseased spreader of AIDS,wants all to know
>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.

>Here is a photo of Ken McVay, director of WWW.NIZKOR.ORG--
>Does he not have the uncouth look as to fit the profile of a
>person who would say in general regarding child porn:
>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and
>have yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn."
>I've seen photos of naked children, ... and fail to see the
>harm, or any great moral danger to our society)."?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>     Would any of you want to leave this person, Ken McVay,
>                alone with your children?

>Here is the latest.......

>Oktober 1998

>Subject.: HOLO-SCHWINDEL OHNE ENDE - HOLO-OBSKURANTEN

>HOLOCAUST SCHWINDEL-ZAHLEN AKTUALISIERT
>EIN PANOPTIKUM DEUTSCHER & OESTERREICHISCHER POLITIKER

>http://www.ostara.org/autor
>http://www.nationaljournal.org

>Wer in diesen beiden, oben genannten Laendern, auch
>Bananenrepubliken genannt, naturgeschichtlich  erwiesene
>und historisch belegbare und beweisbare Fakten ueber den
>Holocaust- und Gaskammer-Schwindel veroeffentlicht, laeuft
>Gefahr wie tausende andere auch, psychiatrierte oder/und
>auf Jahre hinter Gitter zu wandern. Im Vorkriegs-Deutschland,
>zu Beginn Hitlers Machtergreifung gab es lndesweit nur rund
>30.000 kriminelle Gefangene. Null politische.

>Im "freiesten" Deutschland aller Zeiten unter Hennoch Kohn
>explodiert die "normale" Kriminalitaet, Mord und Totschlag,
>Drogen und Drogentote und es befinden sich rund 9000
>poltische Haeftlinge hinter Gitter. Tendenz:  Alles
>rapide steigend bis die Laender voellig kaputt sind.
>
>Welcher freche Schwindel und Luegen mit dem Holocaust getrieben
>wird, moegen die folgenden Zahlen aus oeffentlichen Quellen
>verdeutlichen.
>Die duemmste Aussage kommt jedoch von der Deutschen Bundestags
>Praesidentin Rita Suessmut, eine extrem dumme und geistig
>zurueckgebliebene Dumpfbacke,  die die Holocaustzahlen sogar
>heute noch auf 11 Millionen (!!) hinauslizitiert.
>
>
>Datum		Wo veroeffentlichet				      Zahlen
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>31.12.1945	Franzoesische Ermittlungsstelle			8,0 Mill
>		fuer Nazi-Kriegsverbrechen
>
>20.04.1978	Le Monde (franzoesische Tageszeitung)		5 Mill
>
>23.01.1995	Die Welt					            5 Mill
>
>20.04.1989	Eugen Kogon, Der SS-Staat (Seite 176)		4,5 Mill
>
>31.12.1952	Der Neue Herder (Lexikon, 7. Auflage)		4,5 Mill
>
>01.10.1946	IMT-Dokument 008-USSR
>		(Alliertes Militaergericht N?rnberg)       	4,0 Mill
>
>02.05.1997	USA-Today (groesste Tageszeitung der USA)	      4,0 Mill
>
>24.11.1989  Oberstaatsanwalt Majorowsky
>		(Anklage 12 Js 1037/89)     			      4,0 Mill
>
>26.07.1990	Allgem. Juedische Wochenzeitung (Bonn)		4,0 Mill
>
>08.10.1993  ZDF-Nachrichten					      4,0 Mill
>
>25.01.1995	Wetzlarer Neue Zeitung       			      4.0 Mill
>
>01.10.1946  IMT-Dokument 3868-PS
>		(Alliiertes Militaergericht Nuernberg)		3,0 Mill
>
>01.01.1995	DAMALS (amtliches Bonner Geschichtsmagazin)	3,0 Mill
>
>18.07.1990	The Peninsula Times
>		(Tageszeitung, S.Francisco, USA)    		2,0 Mill
>
>25.07.1990  Hamburger Abendblatt				      2,0 Mill
>
>27.01.1995  Die Welt (Kanzler Kohls "Millonen-Luege")       2,0 Mill
>
>02.05.1997	USA-Today (gruesste Tageszeitung der USA)      	1,5 Mill
>
>11.06.1992 	Allgem. Juedische Wochenzeitung (Bonn)       	1,5 Mill
>
>08.10.1993	ZDF (berichtigendes Schreiben zur Nachricht
>		von "4 Millionen")				      1,5 Mill
>
>23.01.1995	Die Welt					            1,5 Mill
>
>01.09.1989	Le Monde (franzoesische Tageszeitung)		1.43Mill
>
>02.02.1995  BUNTE Illustrierte       			      1,4 Mill
>
>22.01.1995	Welt am Sonntag					      1,2 Mill
>
>27.01.1995	Die Welt       					      1,1 Mill
>
>27.01.1995	IfZ (Institut fuer Zeitgeschichte, Muenchen)	1,0 Mill
>
>31.12.1989	Pressac, Auschwitz, Technique ...
>		(im Auftrag der Klarsfeldstiftung) 		      0,928 Mill
>
>27.09.1993	Die Welt				 	              800.000
>
>22.01.1995  Welt am Sonntag					        750.000
>
>01.05.1994  Focus						              700.000
>
>23.01.1995	Die Welt 					              700.000
>
>31.12.1994	Pressac, Die Krematorien ...
>		(Im Auftrag der Klarsfeldstiftung)		        470.000
>
>08.01.1948	Welt im Film
>		(britische Wochenschau-Reportage Nr. 137)  	  300.000
>
>06.01.1990  Frankfurter Rundschau       			         74.000
>
>31.05.1994	Hoffmann, Stalins Vernichtungskrieg, Seite 302	   74.000
>
>17.08.1994	Internat. Suchdienst Arolsen (Sach Nr.10824)	   66.206
>
>
>Aus dem Werk "Grundlagen zur Zeitgeschichte" entnehmen wir weiters,
>dass die beurkundete Gesamtanzahl aller Sterbefaelle in ALLEN
>deutschen KZ  bei 289.597 lagen. Kann man davon ausgehen, dass
>davon rund 150.000 bis max. 200.000 Juden betroffen waren?
>Auch die in Moskauer Archiven gefundenen Totenbuecher registrierten
>fuer Auschwitz nicht mehr als 70.000 Sterbefaelle.
>
>Hoechst wichtig: Auch der Vatikan, eine  Hochburg der Freimaurerei
>und damit unter juedischer Kontrolle, bzw. der  Papst selbst
>(juedische Abstammung, seine Mutter hiess Katz), denen man wegen
>ihrem Schweigen zum Holocaust und Judenvernichtung (unter Pius XII)
>immer heftiger attackiert, wollte diese Zahlen nicht kommentieren
>sondern der Papst verbeitet nach wie vor die Millionen-Luege
>der Juden.
>
>Waehrend des Krieges betrieb der amerikanische Geheimdienst OSS
>im Vatikan sogar eine Spionage-Zentrale,  wo auch alle Nachrichten
>aus den KZs zusammenliefen.   Es gibt zum Leidwesen der Zionisten
>KEIN einziges Dokument das den Holocaust und die chronischen Luegen und
>Utopien der Juden bestaetigen wuerde. Moeglicherweise arbeitet man
>aber jetzt schon emsig an einer Faelschung eines Dokumentes das man
>wie "zufaellig" in den Keller-Archiven des Vatikans gefunden hat.
>
>Wolfgang Froehlich, den man in einem neuen Machwerk (Das Netz des
>Hasses) des linken  Verbrecher- und Bombenbastler-Vereines DOEW unter
>Wolfgang Neugebauer als wuesten "Antisemiten" bezeichnete, hat zum Thema
>Holocaust ebenfalls einiges Datenmaterial und Fakten gesammelt die
>wir hiermit mit groesster Genugtuung und  Befriedigung praesentieren.
>Wir wollen hoffen, dass dieser Text in moeglichst vielen Schulen
>Oesterreichs und Deutschlands gelesen, studiert und verteilt wird.
>
>Dabei freuen wir uns ganz besonders, die publizierten Luegen dieser
>staatlich subventionierten linken Ganoven-Mafia in ihrem
>Sprachrohr, das rosa freimaurerische Schmutz- und Schundblatt
>STANDARD zu korrigieren. So schreibt Hubertus Czernin am 1. Nov:
>
>"... bei rund 108.000 Internet-Anschluessen im Land macht der Zugriff
>auf die Ostara-Seite nur wenige Promille aus. Sie irren Czernin:
>Dank Ihrer Schmutzkuebel-Werbung im Standard wurden in den letzten
>zwei Wochen mehr 22.000 Zugriffe registriert wobei an Holocaust
>voellig uninteressierte Personen sich rund 200 MB an Daten runtergeholt
>haben.  Wir danken den Schreiberling Czernin und Wolfgang Neugebauer
>auf diese Weise mit dem grossen symbolischen Stalin-Orden.
>Und wie uns der anonyme Betreiber der Webseite freundlichst
>und rechtsverbindlich mitteilte, betraegt der woechentliche
>Zugriff rund 2500, wobei in nur neun Monaten mehr als
>103.000 Zugriffe registriert wurden. Eine sehr schmerzliche Statistik
>fuer den linken Bodensatz und dem stalinistischen Abschaum Oesterreichs.
>
>Die Kernfrage ist, wohin sind Millionen europaeische Juden
>verschwunden? Falls sie ueberhaupt "verschwunden" sind.
>Auch der Brockhaus gibt uns einige Antworten auf diese Frage.
>Aus der folgenden Liste, die auch Wolfgang Frohlich publizierte
>und an hunderte Richter und Staatsanwaelte schickte, entnehmen wir:
>
>Die juedischen Wanderbewegungen im 20. Jahrhundert (aus: Das Recht
>auf Wahrheit von Herbert Schweiger).  Dazu einige wichtige Basiszahlen:
>
>Aus dem Schweizer "ENCYCLOPEDIA LEXIKON" entnehmen wir z.B.
>dass es in ganz Europa vor Hitler 9,8 Millionen Juden gab.
>Nach Hitler waren es noch 4,2 Millionen.
>Halten wir fest, es fehlen also 5.6 Millionen.
>
>Zu Beginn des zweiten Weltkrieges und im deutschen Einflussgebiet
>gab es in Europa max. 3.3 Millionen Juden auf die Hitler "Zugriff"
>hatte.
>Quelle: American Jewish Yearbook, Nr. 43.  Walter Sanning nennt in
>seinem
>Buch The Dissolution of Eastern Jewry, 2. Auflage, 1985 die Zahl von
>2.9 Millionen. Die Baseler Nachrichten vom 13.6.1946 behaupten, dass es
>hoechstens 3 Millionen gewesen sind.
>
>Juedische Bevoelkerung	1930	1938	   1968	   Gesamt  Zuwachs 1930-1968
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>---
>Israel		      285.000	410.000	 3,100.000	     2,815.000
>USA	                 4,4 Mill    4,7 Mill      6.200.000	     1,738.400
>Suedamerika             306.000	373.600	   762.700	       456.000
>Kanada		      140.000	160.000	   280.000	       140.000
>Frankreich	            225.000	270.000	   535.000	       310.000
>England		      300.000	340.000	   410.000	       110.000
>Australien	             25.000	 27.000	    74.000	        50.000
>Suedafrika	             60.000	100.000	   114.000	        54.000
>
>SUMME		          5,783.000   6,360.000     11.456.000	    + 5,7 Mill.
>
>Im Klartext:  Das europaeische Judentum "verlor" keine 6 Millionen durch
>den Holocaust, sondern hauptsaechlich durch Migration und Auswanderung.
>Rund 1,5 Millionen wanderten nach dem Krieg aus Europa in die typischen
>Einwanderungslaender aus.
>
>Trotz dieser enormen Diskrepanzen  haben bis zum 1. Juli 1980 mehr als
>5 Millionen "Holocaust-Ueberlebende" Antraege auf Wiedergutmachung
>gestellt und 4,346.608 wurden auch bewilligt. Wie ist dieser
>rein rechnerische Schwachsinn moeglich?
>
>Die folgenden Zahlen beweisen in noch deutlicheren Form welcher
>Schwindel
>mit dem Holocaust und "Wiedergutmachungen" getrieben wird.
>Die Zahlen der juedischen Weltbevoelkerung stammen ausschliesslich
>aus juedischen Quellen.
>
>Vor dem 2. Weltkieg:
>
>The National Council of Churches, USA 1930		15,0 Mill
>Jewish Encyclopedia, USA 1933				      15,6 Mill
>World Almanach (Jewish Committee 1939)			15,6 Mill
>
>NACH DEM 2. WELTKRIEG:
>
>World Almanach (American Jewish Committee, USA)
>1945							            15,19 Mill
>1946							            15,75 Mill
>1947							            15,69 Mill
>1948							            15,50 Mill
>New York Times, div. Meldungen, 1948	   15,7 bis 18,60 Mill
>World Almanach, 1949					      15,50 Mill
>World Almanach, 1950					      11,50 Mill
>National Council of Churches, USA, 1951			15,31 Mill
>
>Aus diesen Zahlen ist klar und deutlich ersichtlich, dass der
>Holocaust nicht zwischen 1939 und 1942 stattgefunden hat,
>sondern erst 1950 bzw. 1949 (!)
>
>Oesterreichische  (und auch Deutsche) Leser dieser Berichte
>werden aber diese Zahlen in Oesterreich  NICHT
>nachvollziehen koennen. Das bolschewistische System dieser beiden
>Laender hat dafuer gesorgt, dass fast alle original Lexiken und
>Geschichtswerke bis 1950 aus allen Bibliotheken des Landes entfernt
>wurden oder/und nicht zugreifbar sind.
>Das Volk soll, nein, muss dumm sterben.
>
>Seltsamerweise verschwanden in allen Lexiken und Jahrbuechern
>anno 1950 - je nachdem welcher Verlag -  4-6 Millionen Juden spurlos.
>Und entgegen vieler Geruechte, sie emigrierten  auch NICHT auf den Mars
>oder flogen mit UFOs zum Aldebaran.
>
>Und noch seltsamer ist, dass diese 4 Millionen Juden  ausgerechnet
>zu einem Zeitpunkt  (1950) spurlos verschwanden, nachdem auch der
>damalige deutsche Bundeskanzler und Krypto-Jude Konrad Adenauer
>sein Land verraten hatte und mit Nahum Goldmann neue
>"Wiedergutmachungs-Verhandlungen" fuehrte.  Dann musste man aber
>frech, aus allen Lexiken 4 Millionen Menschen verschwinden lassen.
>Damit die Statistik wieder "stimmt" Oder fand der "Holocaust"
>gar schon 1949 statt, nach Redaktionsschluss des juedischen
>"Welt-Almanachs".
>
>Egal wie man das Thema Holocaust auch dreht und wendet und die Zahlen
>faelscht, Tatsache ist und bleibt, dass man auf Kosten Millionen
>von unschuldigen Menschen auf viele Generationen hinweg,
>mit Hilfe gekaufter Politiker einen gigantischen Betrug inszenierte.
>Oesterreich zahlte fuer diesen frechen Schwindel bereits die
>gigantische Summe von weit mehr als 300 Milliarden AS
>(rund 25 Milliarden US $)
>
>Wie hoch und wie lange die ewigen "Wiedergutmachungs-Zahlungen",
>das Abkassieren und Absahnen ohne Ende noch werden wird,
>darueber werden wir - sofern es dann das Internet noch gibt -
>und unsere Enkelkinder mit ohnmaechtigen Zorn berichten koennen.
>Bis dahin finden sich immer wieder rueckgratlose Kreaturen
>und Kanalratten die ihr Land und das Volk fuer wenige Silberlinge
>verraten und verkaufen.  Wie z.B. Viktor Klima, der dumm
>grinsend, auf Grund einer internationalen Raubgold-Konferenz
>in London Ende 1997 bzw. 1998 eindeutig oesterreichisches
>Waehrungsgold in der Hoehe von rund 110 Millionen AS einfach
>an die Juden und Netanyahu verschenkte.
>
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>is a revolutionary act."
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages.
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org


Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


 wrote:

HENRY FORD (The Dearborn Independent, 12-19 February 1921): Jews have
always controlled the business. . . The motion picture influence of
the United States and Canada . . . is exclusively under the control,
moral and financial, of the Jewish manipulators of the public mind.

At one time, anti-Semites were considered to be people who did not like Jews.
Now, anti-Semites are people whom the Jews don't like.  Jews use the term as a
weapon to smear people who for one reason or another they don't like. They use
it to keep politicians in line who might otherwise stray from the Jewish
agenda and they  use it to label revisionists as 'holocaust deniers' I have
been "branded by the Jews" and am proud to be in the esteemed company of the
following:

T.S. Eliot; Norman Finkelstein; Father Coughlin; 
John Wayne;  Joseph P. Kennedy; Charles Lindburgh;
George Lincoln Rockwell; Marlon Brando; Robert Mitchum; 
Richard Nixon; Henry Ford Sr.; Walt Disney; David Irving;
H.L. Mencken; Kurt Waldheim; Napoleon; Bismarck; Claudis;
Voltaire; George Ball; Israel Shahak; Joe Sobran; Gerald L.K. Smith;
Karl Marx; William Dudley Pelley; Cicero; Heinriche Heine;
Oswald Mosley; Rowland Evans; Robert Novak; Anthony Lewis; Charles Dickens;
Patrick Buchanan; Benjamin Friedman; Martin Luther; Mahomet;
Bruno Bauer;  Elizabeth Dilling; Senator Burton Wheeler

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.


Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late
nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
work:(780)492-0473



For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

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Reply-To: Marek Maciej Ziemba ,
Frank Arthur , or to
Ariadne@mac.hush.com, or Ariadne.mac@gmail.com
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Vergiss niemals die verfluechte Juden/ZYDS!

McVay is quite right in reposting this very interesting article.
Now that more and more evidence is being revealed about 
ZYD  COLLABORATION  WITH  NAZIS, such as the 
additional  51 cases, besides the notorious KASTNER case, 
one MUST question the HOLOHOAX!!

Even the nototious Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to be a 
willing  Nazi GESTAPO  COLLABORATOR!!

The filthy ZYDS just  manufactured figures, just to steal money 
>from countries=HOLOHOAX-SCHWINDEL!!


On 18 Oct 2004 06:58:42 -0000, Ken McVay  wrote:

>NOTE:  Do not print this out if you reside in  Austria;
>Belgium; France; Germany; Israel; Spain or Switzerland.

>WARNING To People in Austria; Belgium; France; Germany;
>Israel; Spain and Switzerland. You can be fined,
>imprisoned or both for discussing the topics set
>forth in this article.

>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag in Canada,
>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, now finally dying as a
>diseased spreader of AIDS,wants all to know
>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.

>Here is a photo of Ken McVay, director of WWW.NIZKOR.ORG--
>Does he not have the uncouth look as to fit the profile of a
>person who would say in general regarding child porn:
>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and
>have yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn."
>I've seen photos of naked children, ... and fail to see the
>harm, or any great moral danger to our society)."?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>     Would any of you want to leave this person, Ken McVay,
>                alone with your children?

>Here is the latest.......

>Oktober 1998

>Subject.: HOLO-SCHWINDEL OHNE ENDE - HOLO-OBSKURANTEN

>HOLOCAUST SCHWINDEL-ZAHLEN AKTUALISIERT
>EIN PANOPTIKUM DEUTSCHER & OESTERREICHISCHER POLITIKER

>http://www.ostara.org/autor
>http://www.nationaljournal.org

>Wer in diesen beiden, oben genannten Laendern, auch
>Bananenrepubliken genannt, naturgeschichtlich  erwiesene
>und historisch belegbare und beweisbare Fakten ueber den
>Holocaust- und Gaskammer-Schwindel veroeffentlicht, laeuft
>Gefahr wie tausende andere auch, psychiatrierte oder/und
>auf Jahre hinter Gitter zu wandern. Im Vorkriegs-Deutschland,
>zu Beginn Hitlers Machtergreifung gab es lndesweit nur rund
>30.000 kriminelle Gefangene. Null politische.

>Im "freiesten" Deutschland aller Zeiten unter Hennoch Kohn
>explodiert die "normale" Kriminalitaet, Mord und Totschlag,
>Drogen und Drogentote und es befinden sich rund 9000
>poltische Haeftlinge hinter Gitter. Tendenz:  Alles
>rapide steigend bis die Laender voellig kaputt sind.
>
>Welcher freche Schwindel und Luegen mit dem Holocaust getrieben
>wird, moegen die folgenden Zahlen aus oeffentlichen Quellen
>verdeutlichen.
>Die duemmste Aussage kommt jedoch von der Deutschen Bundestags
>Praesidentin Rita Suessmut, eine extrem dumme und geistig
>zurueckgebliebene Dumpfbacke,  die die Holocaustzahlen sogar
>heute noch auf 11 Millionen (!!) hinauslizitiert.
>
>
>Datum		Wo veroeffentlichet				      Zahlen
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>31.12.1945	Franzoesische Ermittlungsstelle			8,0 Mill
>		fuer Nazi-Kriegsverbrechen
>
>20.04.1978	Le Monde (franzoesische Tageszeitung)		5 Mill
>
>23.01.1995	Die Welt					            5 Mill
>
>20.04.1989	Eugen Kogon, Der SS-Staat (Seite 176)		4,5 Mill
>
>31.12.1952	Der Neue Herder (Lexikon, 7. Auflage)		4,5 Mill
>
>01.10.1946	IMT-Dokument 008-USSR
>		(Alliertes Militaergericht N?rnberg)       	4,0 Mill
>
>02.05.1997	USA-Today (groesste Tageszeitung der USA)	      4,0 Mill
>
>24.11.1989  Oberstaatsanwalt Majorowsky
>		(Anklage 12 Js 1037/89)     			      4,0 Mill
>
>26.07.1990	Allgem. Juedische Wochenzeitung (Bonn)		4,0 Mill
>
>08.10.1993  ZDF-Nachrichten					      4,0 Mill
>
>25.01.1995	Wetzlarer Neue Zeitung       			      4.0 Mill
>
>01.10.1946  IMT-Dokument 3868-PS
>		(Alliiertes Militaergericht Nuernberg)		3,0 Mill
>
>01.01.1995	DAMALS (amtliches Bonner Geschichtsmagazin)	3,0 Mill
>
>18.07.1990	The Peninsula Times
>		(Tageszeitung, S.Francisco, USA)    		2,0 Mill
>
>25.07.1990  Hamburger Abendblatt				      2,0 Mill
>
>27.01.1995  Die Welt (Kanzler Kohls "Millonen-Luege")       2,0 Mill
>
>02.05.1997	USA-Today (gruesste Tageszeitung der USA)      	1,5 Mill
>
>11.06.1992 	Allgem. Juedische Wochenzeitung (Bonn)       	1,5 Mill
>
>08.10.1993	ZDF (berichtigendes Schreiben zur Nachricht
>		von "4 Millionen")				      1,5 Mill
>
>23.01.1995	Die Welt					            1,5 Mill
>
>01.09.1989	Le Monde (franzoesische Tageszeitung)		1.43Mill
>
>02.02.1995  BUNTE Illustrierte       			      1,4 Mill
>
>22.01.1995	Welt am Sonntag					      1,2 Mill
>
>27.01.1995	Die Welt       					      1,1 Mill
>
>27.01.1995	IfZ (Institut fuer Zeitgeschichte, Muenchen)	1,0 Mill
>
>31.12.1989	Pressac, Auschwitz, Technique ...
>		(im Auftrag der Klarsfeldstiftung) 		      0,928 Mill
>
>27.09.1993	Die Welt				 	              800.000
>
>22.01.1995  Welt am Sonntag					        750.000
>
>01.05.1994  Focus						              700.000
>
>23.01.1995	Die Welt 					              700.000
>
>31.12.1994	Pressac, Die Krematorien ...
>		(Im Auftrag der Klarsfeldstiftung)		        470.000
>
>08.01.1948	Welt im Film
>		(britische Wochenschau-Reportage Nr. 137)  	  300.000
>
>06.01.1990  Frankfurter Rundschau       			         74.000
>
>31.05.1994	Hoffmann, Stalins Vernichtungskrieg, Seite 302	   74.000
>
>17.08.1994	Internat. Suchdienst Arolsen (Sach Nr.10824)	   66.206
>
>
>Aus dem Werk "Grundlagen zur Zeitgeschichte" entnehmen wir weiters,
>dass die beurkundete Gesamtanzahl aller Sterbefaelle in ALLEN
>deutschen KZ  bei 289.597 lagen. Kann man davon ausgehen, dass
>davon rund 150.000 bis max. 200.000 Juden betroffen waren?
>Auch die in Moskauer Archiven gefundenen Totenbuecher registrierten
>fuer Auschwitz nicht mehr als 70.000 Sterbefaelle.
>
>Hoechst wichtig: Auch der Vatikan, eine  Hochburg der Freimaurerei
>und damit unter juedischer Kontrolle, bzw. der  Papst selbst
>(juedische Abstammung, seine Mutter hiess Katz), denen man wegen
>ihrem Schweigen zum Holocaust und Judenvernichtung (unter Pius XII)
>immer heftiger attackiert, wollte diese Zahlen nicht kommentieren
>sondern der Papst verbeitet nach wie vor die Millionen-Luege
>der Juden.
>
>Waehrend des Krieges betrieb der amerikanische Geheimdienst OSS
>im Vatikan sogar eine Spionage-Zentrale,  wo auch alle Nachrichten
>aus den KZs zusammenliefen.   Es gibt zum Leidwesen der Zionisten
>KEIN einziges Dokument das den Holocaust und die chronischen Luegen und
>Utopien der Juden bestaetigen wuerde. Moeglicherweise arbeitet man
>aber jetzt schon emsig an einer Faelschung eines Dokumentes das man
>wie "zufaellig" in den Keller-Archiven des Vatikans gefunden hat.
>
>Wolfgang Froehlich, den man in einem neuen Machwerk (Das Netz des
>Hasses) des linken  Verbrecher- und Bombenbastler-Vereines DOEW unter
>Wolfgang Neugebauer als wuesten "Antisemiten" bezeichnete, hat zum Thema
>Holocaust ebenfalls einiges Datenmaterial und Fakten gesammelt die
>wir hiermit mit groesster Genugtuung und  Befriedigung praesentieren.
>Wir wollen hoffen, dass dieser Text in moeglichst vielen Schulen
>Oesterreichs und Deutschlands gelesen, studiert und verteilt wird.
>
>Dabei freuen wir uns ganz besonders, die publizierten Luegen dieser
>staatlich subventionierten linken Ganoven-Mafia in ihrem
>Sprachrohr, das rosa freimaurerische Schmutz- und Schundblatt
>STANDARD zu korrigieren. So schreibt Hubertus Czernin am 1. Nov:
>
>"... bei rund 108.000 Internet-Anschluessen im Land macht der Zugriff
>auf die Ostara-Seite nur wenige Promille aus. Sie irren Czernin:
>Dank Ihrer Schmutzkuebel-Werbung im Standard wurden in den letzten
>zwei Wochen mehr 22.000 Zugriffe registriert wobei an Holocaust
>voellig uninteressierte Personen sich rund 200 MB an Daten runtergeholt
>haben.  Wir danken den Schreiberling Czernin und Wolfgang Neugebauer
>auf diese Weise mit dem grossen symbolischen Stalin-Orden.
>Und wie uns der anonyme Betreiber der Webseite freundlichst
>und rechtsverbindlich mitteilte, betraegt der woechentliche
>Zugriff rund 2500, wobei in nur neun Monaten mehr als
>103.000 Zugriffe registriert wurden. Eine sehr schmerzliche Statistik
>fuer den linken Bodensatz und dem stalinistischen Abschaum Oesterreichs.
>
>Die Kernfrage ist, wohin sind Millionen europaeische Juden
>verschwunden? Falls sie ueberhaupt "verschwunden" sind.
>Auch der Brockhaus gibt uns einige Antworten auf diese Frage.
>Aus der folgenden Liste, die auch Wolfgang Frohlich publizierte
>und an hunderte Richter und Staatsanwaelte schickte, entnehmen wir:
>
>Die juedischen Wanderbewegungen im 20. Jahrhundert (aus: Das Recht
>auf Wahrheit von Herbert Schweiger).  Dazu einige wichtige Basiszahlen:
>
>Aus dem Schweizer "ENCYCLOPEDIA LEXIKON" entnehmen wir z.B.
>dass es in ganz Europa vor Hitler 9,8 Millionen Juden gab.
>Nach Hitler waren es noch 4,2 Millionen.
>Halten wir fest, es fehlen also 5.6 Millionen.
>
>Zu Beginn des zweiten Weltkrieges und im deutschen Einflussgebiet
>gab es in Europa max. 3.3 Millionen Juden auf die Hitler "Zugriff"
>hatte.
>Quelle: American Jewish Yearbook, Nr. 43.  Walter Sanning nennt in
>seinem
>Buch The Dissolution of Eastern Jewry, 2. Auflage, 1985 die Zahl von
>2.9 Millionen. Die Baseler Nachrichten vom 13.6.1946 behaupten, dass es
>hoechstens 3 Millionen gewesen sind.
>
>Juedische Bevoelkerung	1930	1938	   1968	   Gesamt  Zuwachs 1930-1968
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>---
>Israel		      285.000	410.000	 3,100.000	     2,815.000
>USA	                 4,4 Mill    4,7 Mill      6.200.000	     1,738.400
>Suedamerika             306.000	373.600	   762.700	       456.000
>Kanada		      140.000	160.000	   280.000	       140.000
>Frankreich	            225.000	270.000	   535.000	       310.000
>England		      300.000	340.000	   410.000	       110.000
>Australien	             25.000	 27.000	    74.000	        50.000
>Suedafrika	             60.000	100.000	   114.000	        54.000
>
>SUMME		          5,783.000   6,360.000     11.456.000	    + 5,7 Mill.
>
>Im Klartext:  Das europaeische Judentum "verlor" keine 6 Millionen durch
>den Holocaust, sondern hauptsaechlich durch Migration und Auswanderung.
>Rund 1,5 Millionen wanderten nach dem Krieg aus Europa in die typischen
>Einwanderungslaender aus.
>
>Trotz dieser enormen Diskrepanzen  haben bis zum 1. Juli 1980 mehr als
>5 Millionen "Holocaust-Ueberlebende" Antraege auf Wiedergutmachung
>gestellt und 4,346.608 wurden auch bewilligt. Wie ist dieser
>rein rechnerische Schwachsinn moeglich?
>
>Die folgenden Zahlen beweisen in noch deutlicheren Form welcher
>Schwindel
>mit dem Holocaust und "Wiedergutmachungen" getrieben wird.
>Die Zahlen der juedischen Weltbevoelkerung stammen ausschliesslich
>aus juedischen Quellen.
>
>Vor dem 2. Weltkieg:
>
>The National Council of Churches, USA 1930		15,0 Mill
>Jewish Encyclopedia, USA 1933				      15,6 Mill
>World Almanach (Jewish Committee 1939)			15,6 Mill
>
>NACH DEM 2. WELTKRIEG:
>
>World Almanach (American Jewish Committee, USA)
>1945							            15,19 Mill
>1946							            15,75 Mill
>1947							            15,69 Mill
>1948							            15,50 Mill
>New York Times, div. Meldungen, 1948	   15,7 bis 18,60 Mill
>World Almanach, 1949					      15,50 Mill
>World Almanach, 1950					      11,50 Mill
>National Council of Churches, USA, 1951			15,31 Mill
>
>Aus diesen Zahlen ist klar und deutlich ersichtlich, dass der
>Holocaust nicht zwischen 1939 und 1942 stattgefunden hat,
>sondern erst 1950 bzw. 1949 (!)
>
>Oesterreichische  (und auch Deutsche) Leser dieser Berichte
>werden aber diese Zahlen in Oesterreich  NICHT
>nachvollziehen koennen. Das bolschewistische System dieser beiden
>Laender hat dafuer gesorgt, dass fast alle original Lexiken und
>Geschichtswerke bis 1950 aus allen Bibliotheken des Landes entfernt
>wurden oder/und nicht zugreifbar sind.
>Das Volk soll, nein, muss dumm sterben.
>
>Seltsamerweise verschwanden in allen Lexiken und Jahrbuechern
>anno 1950 - je nachdem welcher Verlag -  4-6 Millionen Juden spurlos.
>Und entgegen vieler Geruechte, sie emigrierten  auch NICHT auf den Mars
>oder flogen mit UFOs zum Aldebaran.
>
>Und noch seltsamer ist, dass diese 4 Millionen Juden  ausgerechnet
>zu einem Zeitpunkt  (1950) spurlos verschwanden, nachdem auch der
>damalige deutsche Bundeskanzler und Krypto-Jude Konrad Adenauer
>sein Land verraten hatte und mit Nahum Goldmann neue
>"Wiedergutmachungs-Verhandlungen" fuehrte.  Dann musste man aber
>frech, aus allen Lexiken 4 Millionen Menschen verschwinden lassen.
>Damit die Statistik wieder "stimmt" Oder fand der "Holocaust"
>gar schon 1949 statt, nach Redaktionsschluss des juedischen
>"Welt-Almanachs".
>
>Egal wie man das Thema Holocaust auch dreht und wendet und die Zahlen
>faelscht, Tatsache ist und bleibt, dass man auf Kosten Millionen
>von unschuldigen Menschen auf viele Generationen hinweg,
>mit Hilfe gekaufter Politiker einen gigantischen Betrug inszenierte.
>Oesterreich zahlte fuer diesen frechen Schwindel bereits die
>gigantische Summe von weit mehr als 300 Milliarden AS
>(rund 25 Milliarden US $)
>
>Wie hoch und wie lange die ewigen "Wiedergutmachungs-Zahlungen",
>das Abkassieren und Absahnen ohne Ende noch werden wird,
>darueber werden wir - sofern es dann das Internet noch gibt -
>und unsere Enkelkinder mit ohnmaechtigen Zorn berichten koennen.
>Bis dahin finden sich immer wieder rueckgratlose Kreaturen
>und Kanalratten die ihr Land und das Volk fuer wenige Silberlinge
>verraten und verkaufen.  Wie z.B. Viktor Klima, der dumm
>grinsend, auf Grund einer internationalen Raubgold-Konferenz
>in London Ende 1997 bzw. 1998 eindeutig oesterreichisches
>Waehrungsgold in der Hoehe von rund 110 Millionen AS einfach
>an die Juden und Netanyahu verschenkte.
>
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>is a revolutionary act."
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages.
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org


Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


 wrote:

HENRY FORD (The Dearborn Independent, 12-19 February 1921): Jews have
always controlled the business. . . The motion picture influence of
the United States and Canada . . . is exclusively under the control,
moral and financial, of the Jewish manipulators of the public mind.

At one time, anti-Semites were considered to be people who did not like Jews.
Now, anti-Semites are people whom the Jews don't like.  Jews use the term as a
weapon to smear people who for one reason or another they don't like. They use
it to keep politicians in line who might otherwise stray from the Jewish
agenda and they  use it to label revisionists as 'holocaust deniers' I have
been "branded by the Jews" and am proud to be in the esteemed company of the
following:

T.S. Eliot; Norman Finkelstein; Father Coughlin; 
John Wayne;  Joseph P. Kennedy; Charles Lindburgh;
George Lincoln Rockwell; Marlon Brando; Robert Mitchum; 
Richard Nixon; Henry Ford Sr.; Walt Disney; David Irving;
H.L. Mencken; Kurt Waldheim; Napoleon; Bismarck; Claudis;
Voltaire; George Ball; Israel Shahak; Joe Sobran; Gerald L.K. Smith;
Karl Marx; William Dudley Pelley; Cicero; Heinriche Heine;
Oswald Mosley; Rowland Evans; Robert Novak; Anthony Lewis; Charles Dickens;
Patrick Buchanan; Benjamin Friedman; Martin Luther; Mahomet;
Bruno Bauer;  Elizabeth Dilling; Senator Burton Wheeler

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.


Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late
nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
work:(780)492-0473



For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

Reply-To: Marek Maciej Ziemba ,
Frank Arthur , or to
Ariadne@mac.hush.com, or Ariadne.mac@gmail.com
Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like


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Subject: Anti-ZYD/Jew Resistance Flourishes In Europe
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 Anti-Jewish Resistance flourishes in Europe
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 09:03:28 -0600
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On 20 Aug 2006 10:23:12 -0700, in alt.revisionism "hoaxbuster@earthlink.net"
 wrote:

JEW AWARENESS, IS BUILDING

Croatian fans form human Swastika

Croatia to receive penalty for 'human swastika'
The Associated Press  Friday, 18 August 2006

ZAGREB—The Croatian federation expects to be punished by the sport’s
ruling bodies after a group of about 200 fans formed a human swastika
and gave Nazi salutes during the international friendly against Italy
in Livorno on Wednesday.

"There is no doubt, FIFA and UEFA will take action," federation
spokesman Zoran Cvrk said Friday. "It is terrible. Every form of racism,
fascism or other, deserves the severest condemnation."

About 200 supporters arranged themselves into the Nazi symbol about 30
minutes into Croatia's 2-0 win at Livorno's Armando Picchi stadium.
Many also gave Nazi salutes. Police eventually moved in, forcing the fans to
stop.

Livorno is known as a politically left-wing town and the Croatia fans
claim to have been incited by the jeering of their national anthem and waving
of flags of the old communist Yugoslavia.Croatia fought a bloody war for
independence from the old federation in 1991-95.


Friedrich Paul Berg
Learn everything at www.nazigassings.com
The "holocaust" is a dirty jewish hoax--a pack of holy lies, delusional
history!


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Subject: 51 Documents: ZYD Collaboration With  Nazis =KASTNER CASE+ WIESENTHAL! Repost
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This is a repost of an extremely important article, documenting the deliberate
collaboration of the Zionists/ZYDS, with the nazis.

Never forget the collaboartion of KASTNER, RUMKOWSKI, WIESENTHAL,
plus another 51 ZYDS!!

From: The Truth Seeker 
Subject: 51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 12:53:13 +0000 (UTC)

51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis.

By Lenni Brenner

Lenni Brenner has collated documents that relate to how the Zionist movement
collaborated with German Nazism and Italian Fascism. Given the subsequent
Holocaust against the Jews by the Nazis, many will be surprised and appalled
that a political movement, which supposedly supported Jewish liberation, was
prepared to collaborate with the most anti-semitic of regimes.

Among the documents is the relatively well known and infamous ŒStern Gang
Proposal¹ in which the organisation of future Israeli PM Yitzhak Shamir offers
to join in WWII on Œthe side of the German Reich¹. There is also the
embarrassing documents of the German Zionists who saw the Nazis as fellow
nationalists and were thus sympathetic to ŒGerman national renewal¹, the
memoirs of an SS officer who stays in Palestine as the guest of the Zionist
movement for 6 months.

These acts of collaboration were not limited to the right wing fringe of the
Zionist movement but went to the heart of the Zionist Labour establishment
when the head of the Haganah, Feival Polkes, became a willing paid informer of
the Gestapo. He was even handled by one of the architects of the Final
Solution, Adolf Eichmann, who also travelled to Palestine to liaise with the
Zionists.

These shocking historical documents will make you realise that the history of
the political movement which founded the state of Israel is not quite what it
seems.

They also prove that Zionists will do *anything* to protect their precious
political movement, even if it means sacrificing several million Jews in the
process, then exploiting their suffering to secure the greater goal of a
Zionist State.

The Truth Seeker has spoken.


On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 11:08:04 -0700, Ken McVayAIDS/SOB  wrote:
>Reply-To: "George" ,
>PRAWDA!
>
>On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:14:47 -0700, Heinrich Himmelfarb
> wrote:
>
>>The story documented below means that the KASTNER CASE was not an
>>isolated incident!!
>
>Now even Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to be a Nazi GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!
>
>
>>On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:25:52 GMT, c@c.cc wrote:
>>> 51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis  
>
>>>September 2004, page 86 
>
>>>Book Review
>
>>>51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis
>>>By Lenni Brenner, ed. Barricade Books, 2002, 342 pp. List: $22; AET:
>>>$15.
>
>>>Reviewed by Sara Powell
>>>It’s no secret that Zionism embraced political expediency to advance
>>>the cause of carving Eretz-Israel from the land of its native
>>>inhabitants. In his 1983 book, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators,
>>>Lenni Brenner shows that 20th century Zionists observed shockingly few
>>>limits to that expediency. Not surprisingly, the book received little
>>>coverage in the American media. Now, in 51 Documents, Brenner has
>>>compiled a wide variety of letters, statements, articles, and
>>>judgements—some of which appeared in his earlier book—by a broad array
>>>of activists and authors, that documents Zionist cooperration with the
>>>Nazis. On the face of it, the notion seems absurd. However, Brenner
>>>presents the case—made in many Zionists’ own words—that the Nazi
>>>agenda of expelling the Jews from Germany fit nicely with the Zionist
>>>plan for enticing those Jews into settling in Palestine and creating a
>>>new Jewish nation. 
>>>
>>>In addition to introductory and concluding chapters, the book is
>>>organized into five sections which lead the reader through early,
>>>pre-Zionist documents; pre-Holocaust ideological factions; the
>>>Holocaust era itself; and a chapter on the Stern Gang and the Nazis.
>>>Readers should note that a few documents are not indicative of
>>>collaboration in and of themselves, but provide the background to
>>>others written in response. These latter do indicate levels of
>>>collaboration between Zionists and fascists, both the Nazis in
>>>Germany, and those in Mussolini’s Italy. Brenner’s brief explanatory
>>>notes at the beginning of each document are helpful, as are the
>>>glossary and index.
>>>
>>>51 Documents assumes a certain knowledge of Zionist history, and
>>>requires a close reading and some deconstructive efforts on the part
>>>of the reader. Those willing to commit the time and effort, however,
>>>are rewarded with some stunning revelations. The reason some Zionists
>>>eschewed the boycott against Hitler’s Germany, for instance, is that
>>>they had a financial deal—Ha’avara—with Germany allowing Jews to
>>>exchange their wealth for goods to be exported to Palestine at less of
>>>a loss, as an incentive to emigrate. Those wondering why Zionists
>>>today are so organized and experienced in their public relations
>>>efforts discover that these battles have been fought before. Moreover,
>>>the section on Nazi and Zionist understandings of “nationality” versus
>>>citizenship reveals how German and Israeli practices are based on the
>>>same concept. 
>>>
>>>51 Documents also sheds a whole new light on the term “Holocaust
>>>guilt,” frequently understood to mean Western, non-Jewish guilt for
>>>not acting against the Holocaust earlier. However, these documents
>>>make it clear that Holocaust guilt began with those Zionists who made
>>>the undoubtedly difficult, but politically expedient choice to place
>>>Eretz-Israel at the top of their priorities, above the lives of their
>>>threatened European brethren.
>>>
>>>From a Zionist Executive Meeting speech by Yitzhak Gruenbaum on Feb.
>>>18, 1943:
>>>
>>>And when some asked me: “Can’t you give money from Keren Ha Yesod
>>>(Palestine Foundation Fund) to save Jews in the Diaspora?” I said:
>>>“No!” And again I say no....And, because of these things, people
>>>called me an anti-Semite, and concluded that I’m guilty, for the fact
>>>that we don’t give ourselves completely to rescue actions. (p. 211)
>>>
>>>However difficult it may be, the reader must confront some rather
>>>disturbing conclusions. The most unsettling realization for this
>>>reviewer is that pre-Holocaust Zionists were able to politically align
>>>themselves with the Nazis because both groups fundamentally saw race
>>>as an important dividing line—and, moreover, were determined to keep
>>>it that way. From Vladimir Jabotinsky to Albert Einstein,
>>>“assimilation” of Jews into the societies in which they lived was not
>>>an acceptable option. Rather, Jewish nationalism required equality on
>>>a national level, not a personal one. As Jabotinsky explained, “It is
>>>impossible for a man to become assimilated with people whose blood is
>>>different from his own” (p. 10); in Einstein’s words, “Palestine is
>>>first and foremost not a refuge for East European Jews, but the
>>>incarnation of a reawakening sense of national solidarity” (p. 29).
>>>Finally, David Yisraeli, a member of the Stern Gang, wrote the
>>>following in late 1940, as part of a proposal to Hitler. It was
>>>delivered in 1941 to two German diplomats in Lebanon.
>>>
>>>3. The establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and
>>>totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would be
>>>in the interest of a maintained and strengthened future German
>>>position of power in the Near East (p. 301).
>>>
>>>Such beliefs, of course, were not limited to Nazis and Zionists.
>>>Scientific and philosophical constructs of the day considered such
>>>differentiation legitimate, and ideas of racial difference—and,
>>>therefore, racial supremacy—were practiced around the world.
>>>
>>>Another disturbing conclusion a reader must inevitably face is that
>>>Zionists learned both tactical and political lessons from the Nazis
>>>and that, even today, these lessons are applied to further the Zionist
>>>cause. Although most likely known to potential readers of this book,
>>>another disturbing element is the cover-up of the less than savory
>>>roles of current Israeli leaders, including former prime ministers, in
>>>the terrorist Irgun and Stern Gang just before, during, and after the
>>>Holocaust. Likewise, the succumbing of various U.S. officials to
>>>Zionist pressure is a familiar, but distressing, story.
>>>
>>>51 Documents seems to represent a renewed attempt by Brenner to bring
>>>information regarding Zionist collaboration with the Nazis to U.S.
>>>supporters of Israel, as well as to Jews and Muslims, in order to
>>>expand dialogue with knowledge, and save lives—both Palestinian and
>>>Israeli—in the process. Readers of 51 Documents will find it difficult
>>>not to remove the rose colored glasses that so many seem to wear when
>>>examining Zionism.
>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
>is a revolutionary act." 
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages. 
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant
>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
>is a revolutionary act." 
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages. 
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant
>
>
>Posted by: 
>Patrick Lee Humphrey
>7500 Bellerive #1807
>Houston, Texas 77036-3040
>1-713-266-7764
>
>Steven Horn (KCOM)
>1836 NW 11th St
>Oklahoma City, OK 73106
>(405) 524-0576
>
>together with
>Boris Dynin  = NAMBLA executive & 
>Henry 
>CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even 
>VISIT me at:
>55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco  94132
>
>We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>
>
>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>office: VISIT at:
>#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>or call: 1-250-616-9431
>
>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
>called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
>should give an indication as to the why.
>
>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>
>Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked"?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>
>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
>to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>
>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late
>nights.
>
>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
>send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>work:(780)492-0473
>
>And also: George Firestone: "George" 
>
>Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!
>
>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com
>
>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>IHR - www.ihr.org
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
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This is a repost of an extremely important article, documenting the deliberate
collaboration of the Zionists/ZYDS, with the nazis.

Never forget the collaboartion of KASTNER, RUMKOWSKI, WIESENTHAL,
plus another 51 ZYDS!! All well documented.

From: The Truth Seeker 
Subject: 51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 12:53:13 +0000 (UTC)

51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis.

By Lenni Brenner

Lenni Brenner has collated documents that relate to how the Zionist movement
collaborated with German Nazism and Italian Fascism. Given the subsequent
Holocaust against the Jews by the Nazis, many will be surprised and appalled
that a political movement, which supposedly supported Jewish liberation, was
prepared to collaborate with the most anti-semitic of regimes.

Among the documents is the relatively well known and infamous ŒStern Gang
Proposal¹ in which the organisation of future Israeli PM Yitzhak Shamir offers
to join in WWII on Œthe side of the German Reich¹. There is also the
embarrassing documents of the German Zionists who saw the Nazis as fellow
nationalists and were thus sympathetic to ŒGerman national renewal¹, the
memoirs of an SS officer who stays in Palestine as the guest of the Zionist
movement for 6 months.

These acts of collaboration were not limited to the right wing fringe of the
Zionist movement but went to the heart of the Zionist Labour establishment
when the head of the Haganah, Feival Polkes, became a willing paid informer of
the Gestapo. He was even handled by one of the architects of the Final
Solution, Adolf Eichmann, who also travelled to Palestine to liaise with the
Zionists.

These shocking historical documents will make you realise that the history of
the political movement which founded the state of Israel is not quite what it
seems.

They also prove that Zionists will do *anything* to protect their precious
political movement, even if it means sacrificing several million Jews in the
process, then exploiting their suffering to secure the greater goal of a
Zionist State.

The Truth Seeker has spoken.


On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 11:08:04 -0700, Ken McVayAIDS/SOB  wrote:
>Reply-To: "George" ,
>PRAWDA!
>
>On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:14:47 -0700, Heinrich Himmelfarb
> wrote:
>
>>The story documented below means that the KASTNER CASE was not an
>>isolated incident!!
>
>Now even Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to be a Nazi GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!
>
>
>>On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:25:52 GMT, c@c.cc wrote:
>>> 51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis  
>
>>>September 2004, page 86 
>
>>>Book Review
>
>>>51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis
>>>By Lenni Brenner, ed. Barricade Books, 2002, 342 pp. List: $22; AET:
>>>$15.
>
>>>Reviewed by Sara Powell
>>>It’s no secret that Zionism embraced political expediency to advance
>>>the cause of carving Eretz-Israel from the land of its native
>>>inhabitants. In his 1983 book, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators,
>>>Lenni Brenner shows that 20th century Zionists observed shockingly few
>>>limits to that expediency. Not surprisingly, the book received little
>>>coverage in the American media. Now, in 51 Documents, Brenner has
>>>compiled a wide variety of letters, statements, articles, and
>>>judgements—some of which appeared in his earlier book—by a broad array
>>>of activists and authors, that documents Zionist cooperration with the
>>>Nazis. On the face of it, the notion seems absurd. However, Brenner
>>>presents the case—made in many Zionists’ own words—that the Nazi
>>>agenda of expelling the Jews from Germany fit nicely with the Zionist
>>>plan for enticing those Jews into settling in Palestine and creating a
>>>new Jewish nation. 
>>>
>>>In addition to introductory and concluding chapters, the book is
>>>organized into five sections which lead the reader through early,
>>>pre-Zionist documents; pre-Holocaust ideological factions; the
>>>Holocaust era itself; and a chapter on the Stern Gang and the Nazis.
>>>Readers should note that a few documents are not indicative of
>>>collaboration in and of themselves, but provide the background to
>>>others written in response. These latter do indicate levels of
>>>collaboration between Zionists and fascists, both the Nazis in
>>>Germany, and those in Mussolini’s Italy. Brenner’s brief explanatory
>>>notes at the beginning of each document are helpful, as are the
>>>glossary and index.
>>>
>>>51 Documents assumes a certain knowledge of Zionist history, and
>>>requires a close reading and some deconstructive efforts on the part
>>>of the reader. Those willing to commit the time and effort, however,
>>>are rewarded with some stunning revelations. The reason some Zionists
>>>eschewed the boycott against Hitler’s Germany, for instance, is that
>>>they had a financial deal—Ha’avara—with Germany allowing Jews to
>>>exchange their wealth for goods to be exported to Palestine at less of
>>>a loss, as an incentive to emigrate. Those wondering why Zionists
>>>today are so organized and experienced in their public relations
>>>efforts discover that these battles have been fought before. Moreover,
>>>the section on Nazi and Zionist understandings of “nationality” versus
>>>citizenship reveals how German and Israeli practices are based on the
>>>same concept. 
>>>
>>>51 Documents also sheds a whole new light on the term “Holocaust
>>>guilt,” frequently understood to mean Western, non-Jewish guilt for
>>>not acting against the Holocaust earlier. However, these documents
>>>make it clear that Holocaust guilt began with those Zionists who made
>>>the undoubtedly difficult, but politically expedient choice to place
>>>Eretz-Israel at the top of their priorities, above the lives of their
>>>threatened European brethren.
>>>
>>>From a Zionist Executive Meeting speech by Yitzhak Gruenbaum on Feb.
>>>18, 1943:
>>>
>>>And when some asked me: “Can’t you give money from Keren Ha Yesod
>>>(Palestine Foundation Fund) to save Jews in the Diaspora?” I said:
>>>“No!” And again I say no....And, because of these things, people
>>>called me an anti-Semite, and concluded that I’m guilty, for the fact
>>>that we don’t give ourselves completely to rescue actions. (p. 211)
>>>
>>>However difficult it may be, the reader must confront some rather
>>>disturbing conclusions. The most unsettling realization for this
>>>reviewer is that pre-Holocaust Zionists were able to politically align
>>>themselves with the Nazis because both groups fundamentally saw race
>>>as an important dividing line—and, moreover, were determined to keep
>>>it that way. From Vladimir Jabotinsky to Albert Einstein,
>>>“assimilation” of Jews into the societies in which they lived was not
>>>an acceptable option. Rather, Jewish nationalism required equality on
>>>a national level, not a personal one. As Jabotinsky explained, “It is
>>>impossible for a man to become assimilated with people whose blood is
>>>different from his own” (p. 10); in Einstein’s words, “Palestine is
>>>first and foremost not a refuge for East European Jews, but the
>>>incarnation of a reawakening sense of national solidarity” (p. 29).
>>>Finally, David Yisraeli, a member of the Stern Gang, wrote the
>>>following in late 1940, as part of a proposal to Hitler. It was
>>>delivered in 1941 to two German diplomats in Lebanon.
>>>
>>>3. The establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and
>>>totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would be
>>>in the interest of a maintained and strengthened future German
>>>position of power in the Near East (p. 301).
>>>
>>>Such beliefs, of course, were not limited to Nazis and Zionists.
>>>Scientific and philosophical constructs of the day considered such
>>>differentiation legitimate, and ideas of racial difference—and,
>>>therefore, racial supremacy—were practiced around the world.
>>>
>>>Another disturbing conclusion a reader must inevitably face is that
>>>Zionists learned both tactical and political lessons from the Nazis
>>>and that, even today, these lessons are applied to further the Zionist
>>>cause. Although most likely known to potential readers of this book,
>>>another disturbing element is the cover-up of the less than savory
>>>roles of current Israeli leaders, including former prime ministers, in
>>>the terrorist Irgun and Stern Gang just before, during, and after the
>>>Holocaust. Likewise, the succumbing of various U.S. officials to
>>>Zionist pressure is a familiar, but distressing, story.
>>>
>>>51 Documents seems to represent a renewed attempt by Brenner to bring
>>>information regarding Zionist collaboration with the Nazis to U.S.
>>>supporters of Israel, as well as to Jews and Muslims, in order to
>>>expand dialogue with knowledge, and save lives—both Palestinian and
>>>Israeli—in the process. Readers of 51 Documents will find it difficult
>>>not to remove the rose colored glasses that so many seem to wear when
>>>examining Zionism.
>
>
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>
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>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
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>
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>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
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>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
>is a revolutionary act." 
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages. 
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
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>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
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>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>
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Subject: Exposing the Holocaust--REVISIONIST HERESY
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Exposing the Holocaust--REVISIONIST HERESY
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:26:58 -0700
Message-ID: 

On 12 Nov 2006 18:40:03 -0800, in alt.revisionism "hoaxbuster@earthlink.net"
 wrote:

REVISIONIST HERESY

Just as there were no weapons of mass destruction (WMD) in Iraq prior
to the recent war-no Jews or gentiles were ever killed in gas
chambers or gas vans by the Nazis during World War 2. The
"intelligence experts" and "scholars" were and are wrong.
Whatever crimes and atrocities the Nazis and Hitler did commit, they
certainly did not include gassings of Jews nor anyone else. The
historians have blindly accepted the wildest pseudo-scientific nonsense
imaginable.

The Jews were still alive

The simplest reason for rejecting the Holocaust story is that the vast
majority of European Jews were still alive at the end of World War 2.
Professor Arthur Butz, the author of The Hoax of the Twentieth Century,
made this claim nearly thirty years ago-and he was absolutely correct
as the following quote from a credible, recent Jewish source shows.

The Jewish Week 11-28-2003
http://www.thejewishweek.com/news/newscontent.php3?artid=8774&offset
=10&B1=1&author=Stewart%20Ain&issuedates=oneday&month=&day=&year
=&issuedate=20031128&keyword=
"Two new studies to determine the location of Jewish Holocaust
survivors, for use in making future allocations to the most needy,
differ widely on the number of survivors worldwide, The Jewish Week has
learned. Sergio Della Pergola, a demographer for the Institute of
Contemporary Jewry at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, found
1,092,000 survivors worldwide. Jacob Ukeles, a policy researcher in
Manhattan, found 688,000. The Ukeles survey, an update of one he
prepared in 2000 for the Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against
Germany, found only minor differences from his previous effort.
Lawrence Eagleburger, chairman of the International Commission on
Holocaust Era Insurance Claims, commissioned both surveys. Eagleburger
had hoped to use the figures in determining how to distribute $13.2
million annually in humanitarian funds for needy survivors worldwide."

Clearly, the numbers of "Jewish holocaust survivors" alive more
than fifty-five years after the war are so enormous that one must
surely wonder if any Jews at all perished in World War 2. Any
conservative and reasonable statistical analysis of population decline
over fifty-five years would surely conclude that there were more than
six million Jewish "holocaust survivors" alive at the end of the
war. No doubt, some innocent Jews were killed-but, there is no good
reason to believe Jewish deaths were statistically unusual for a long,
horrific war in which many tens of millions of innocent civilians were
killed of all nationalities. On the basis of numbers alone-the
generally accepted story is a monumental hoax. The continued worldwide
acceptance of that hoax, even in Germany, is a tribute to the enormous
power and influence of the supposed victms and the Jewish community in
general. The uniqueness of the alleged mass gassings has also appealed
to the darker side of the human imagination and gullibility.

The hoax has become a new religion which one must believe without
question or be condemned as "evil"-even imprisoned as in Germany
or Austria, and ruined as well. "Guilt for the holocaust" has come
to replace "original sin" for which all except the jewish victims
themselves must "bear responsibility."

Friedrich Paul Berg
Learn everything at www.nazigassings.com
The "holocaust" is racist hate propaganda.  
Nazi Gassings Never Happened!


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


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Subject: 5 Million ZYDS Disappear!!
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FIVE MILLION JEWS DISAPPEAR - Between 1988-2000
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 09:49:56 -0600
Message-ID: 

On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 13:03:06 GMT, in soc.culture.german "Salah Jafar"
 wrote:

FIVE MILLION JEWS DISAPPEAR BETWEEN 1988 AND 2000, 
according to JEW sources, 
THE WORLDWIDE SUPPLY OF JEWS PLUNGED FROM 18.1 TO 13.2.   
FINALLY, JEWS HAVE PROOF OF A HOLOCAUST!  But there was no war.  
The Nazis are long gone.  In the midst of peacetime, the jews LOST 4.9 million
people, and still haven't been able to locate them.   Could it be that they
need a war in Iraq to increase the jew population back to 18 million?  On top
of that, the 2000 figure for jews in the world included 6.7 million in the US
when in fact there may have been only 5.2 million.  The jews in the US, with
all the modern techniques for counting populations and handling membership
lists, a first class mail delivery system, no war or insurrection or gas ovens
or mass graves, were unable to pin down their population to within 1.5 million
jews--an error of 29%!

  "The study's credibility became an issue last October after part of its
findings on population was released and then withdrawn because some field 
data were not factored into the 5.2-million population estimate. At the same
time, another study by a San Francisco-based group - using a broader
definition of who was Jewish - placed the population at 6.7 million. But after
reevaluating its methodology and findings, UJC said Wednesday that it stood 
by the 5.2-million figure."

These folks, who didn't have the brains to use modern techniques for
estimating their own population to within an accuracy of 6.4 million jews,
during peacetime, are the very same folks who claimed that they knew
precisely, for certain, without ANY doubt, with such certitude that they had
hundreds or thousands of people EXECUTED for denying it, that 6 million 
jews were missing during Nazi persecution,  world war, massive jew migration,
and the death or disappearance of 264 million CHRISTIANS!

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
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How Many Survivors Are There?
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 07:59:25 -0600
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On 15 Aug 2006 06:29:08 -0700, in alt.revisionism "GB" 
wrote:

How Many Survivors Are There?
Studies counted on to allocate funds for the distressed are far apart
on the number.
Stewart Ain - Staff Writer

Two new studies to determine the location of Jewish Holocaust
survivors, for use in making future allocations to the most needy,
differ widely on the number of survivors worldwide, The Jewish Week has
learned.

Sergio Della Pergola, a demographer for the Institute of Contemporary
Jewry at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, found 1,092,000 survivors
worldwide. Jacob Ukeles, a policy researcher in Manhattan, found
688,000.

The Ukeles survey, an update of one he prepared in 2000 for the
Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against Germany, found only minor
differences from his previous effort.

Lawrence Eagleburger, chairman of the International Commission on
Holocaust Era Insurance Claims, commissioned both surveys.

Eagleburger had hoped to use the figures in determining how to
distribute $13.2 million annually in humanitarian funds for needy
survivors worldwide. The funds were obtained as part of a settlement
for unpaid Holocaust-era insurance claims against German and other
European companies.

Brooklyn Federal Judge Edward Korman, who is presiding over the $1.25
billion Swiss bank settlement, has been using the original Ukeles
survey to allocate money to needy Jewish survivors.

Both surveys found the highest percentage of Jewish survivors are
living in Israel. In his updated version, Ukeles reported the figure at
265,000, or 38.5 percent. Della Pergola put the number at 511,000, or
46.8 percent.

The numbers breakdown of where survivors are living:


The United States: Ukeles, 110,000 survivors, or 16 percent; Della
Pergola, 174,000, or 15.9 percent.

Europe: Ukeles, 126,000, or 18.3 percent; Della Pergola, 229,000, or 21
percent.

The former Soviet Union: Ukeles, 150,000, or 21.8 percent; Della
Pergola, 146,000, or 13.4 percent.

Other parts of the world: Ukeles, 38,000, or 5.5 percent; Della
Pergola, 32,000, or 2.9 percent.

The difference in the studies stems from the fact that Della Pergola
included as survivors Jews who lived in Arab countries - Morocco,
Tunisia, Libya, Syria, Lebanon and Algeria - that passed anti-Jewish
laws. Ukeles did not.

Asked his reaction to the disparities, Ukeles said that since their
purpose is to determine allocations based on need, a new needs
assessment study might be in order.

In such a study in 2000 for the Claims Conference, Ukeles found 119,000
survivors in the former Soviet Union in need - almost double that of
any other area.

Gideon Taylor, executive vice president of the Claims Conference, said
his organization's allocations committee would be meeting Monday to
vote on staff recommendations for the allocation of more than $50
million.

Taylor said the staff considered both the Della Pergola and Ukeles
studies, as well as recent needs studies performed in the United
States, Israel and the former Soviet Union. He said those studies would
soon be posted on his organization's Web site.

Elan Steinberg, executive vice president of the World Jewish Congress,
said despite the different number of survivors in the studies, the
percentage of Jews does not differ markedly except in Israel and the
former Soviet Union.

He said Della Pergola's figures represent a "dramatic shift" in
populations that "call into question the basis on which distributions
have been made."

Taylor stressed that both the Claims Conference and the World Jewish
Restitution Organization "can only act in an empirical manner" and
thus must base their allocations "on the most recent statistics and
on the basis of where the greatest needs are."

The allocations committee of the Claims Conference will be submitting
its recommendations to its full membership in coming weeks. Steinberg
said the WJC, a member of the Claims Conference, would take into
consideration Della Pergola's statistics when voting on the
committee's recommendations.

Israel Singer, president of the Claims Conference, said that instead of
each organization determining on its own how best to allocate
settlement monies to needy survivors, there should be a "global,
coordinated strategy" in determining allocations. He said it should
apply to the insurance and Swiss bank settlements, as well as the
allocations from the Claims Conference.

Samuel Dubbin, an attorney for the Holocaust Survivors Foundation,
welcomed such a move. He said he is convinced that if there was a
global allocation, "there would be enough funds available to meet the
needs of survivors all over the world."

Singer said he would be meeting shortly after Thanksgiving with Korman
to review the latest demographic statistics and to discuss the global
allocation idea.

"I'd love the judge to look at it and if he has to make allocations
earlier, it does not mean we can't reassess our allocations based on
what he does," Singer said.

Singer stressed that all of the settlements combined, along with money
the Claims Conference obtains from various sources, contains hundreds
of millions of dollars that together might meet the needs of survivors
for the next five years.

Any distribution plans that call for allocations beyond that time frame
should be shortened, he said.

"Survivors are dying at the rate of 15 percent a year," Singer
said. "We should telescope the amount of time allocations are
made."

In addition, Singer said the money must go directly to help survivors.
If the survivors have moved, they should still receive the money if
they are in need.

"The money should not be an entitlement for places but for
individuals," he said.

At a meeting this week in Jerusalem, the executive committee of the
Claims Conference decided to press the German government to provide
funds for homecare for Holocaust survivors in need worldwide.

Dubbin pointed out that the Association of Jewish Family and
Children's Services Agencies in 2002 estimated that a minimum of $30
million is needed annually to care for needy survivors in the United
States.
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Even in Israel, they know who controls the drugs trade!!

ISRAEL , CENTRE OF DRUG TRADE, HAARETZ
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 07:22:22 -0600
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On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 23:11:43 -0400, in soc.culture.canada "serwad"
 wrote:

            Israelis at center of ecstasy drug trade

            By Nathan Guttman

            Israel is at the center of international trade in the drug 
ecstasy, according to a document published last week by the U.S. State 
Department.

            In recent years, organized crime in Israel, some with links to 
criminal organizations in Russia, have come to control the distribution of 
the drug in Europe, according to a Bureau for International Narcotics and 
Law Enforcement Affairs document.

            The same document also points out that Israeli criminal groups 
have a hand in the distribution of ecstasy in North America.

            During 2000, 80 percent of the ecstasy seized in North America 
originated in the Netherlands, which is the largest production center, along 
with Belgium and Poland. The State Department is certain that Israeli 
organizations are linked to the laboratories in the Netherlands and are 
responsible for the worldwide distribution.

            "Israeli drug distribution organizations are currently the main 
source for distribution of the drug to groups inside the U.S., to smuggling 
through express mail services, through couriers on commercial flights and, 
recently, through air cargo," states the report. In the past two years, the 
U.S. has dealt more severely with ecstasy. Federal judges deal with 
smugglers in the ecstasy trade with the same severity as heroin and cocaine 
dealers.

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
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NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
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IHR - www.ihr.org
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Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
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Dirty Work of Zionism far from Finished
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:23:54 -0600
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On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 14:36:23 -0700, in can.politics "DetectorTHX11:59:01"
 wrote:

http://pcapostate.blogspot.com/2006/08/dirty-work-of-zionism-is-unfinished.h
tml

I were to guess what actually happened to Mel Gibson, I'd say that he was
set up - he may have been out imbibing in drink, and he may have been
"partying" with young women, but the photographer that captured his drunken
behavior on the cell phone camera was probably Jewish, and he probably
called someone who sent officer Mee, also a Jew, out on a special mission to
pull over Gibson and videotape the subsequent confrontation and arrest.
Trust me, there aren't many Jewish cops in California, and the idea that one
just happened to pull over Mel Gibson on that particular night, while
driving under the influence is highly unlikely.[1]

Hopefully the Gibson smear campaign will backfire on organized Zionism, he
is still quite popular in the United States, and most of his fans couldn't
give a damn about his alleged commentary concerning Jews, despite what the
media would have us to believe. I for one will be going to see any future
Gibson movies twice. These Zionists believe, and with good reason, that is
they repetitively present an idea over and over, that the American public
will come to accept it as fact. It is for this reason that the news media
constantly foists this preposterous idea that Israel is America's ally, that
Israel is a democracy, that Israel is always blameless and the victim,
rather than perpetrator of terrorism. You must reject these lies in order to
free yourself from Zionist propagandistic technique - if you cannot embrace
pure objectivity while watching television, then you must turn off it off!
Your future and the future of your progeny depend on it. If Americans cannot
overcome the lies of the media, our children are condemned forever to fight
wars for the Zionists until we have been bled white and left penniless.

It is absolutely essential that people in today's world come to understand
that the media as we know it is absolutely and completely monopolized by
Zionists, mostly of the Jewish persuasion. This isn't a bigoted comment or
an anti-Semitic tirade; it's an absolute, undeniable, and empirical fact!
Once one has come to accept this reality, one can begin to break free from
the negative effects of this kosher propaganda. Make no mistake about it -
this is pernicious mind control at its finest. Zionist control of our media
today is so obviously evident that to deny it means that one must either be
completely stupid, delusional and/or complicit.

Another recent example of ridiculous media mendacity is this idea that the
Israel military is experiencing stiff resistance at the hands of Hizballah,
or that Israel proper is under any real threat from Katusha rockets, which
are in reality little more than large bottle rockets with a slightly bigger
bang. The media would have you believe that because Katusha rockets cannot
accurately target cities in Israel that they are somehow more of a "terror
weapon," than a 500 pound bomb that can by utilizing a special delayed fuse
cut through the roof of a family dwelling in Tyre and explode at ground
level for maximum blast effect. The truth is, Katusha rockets are all that
Hizballah has to respond to Israel's modern military technology, if
Hizballah had modern battle tanks like Israel, one could safely assume they'
d use those too, but they don't. A Katusha rocket fired by an angry and
desperate Hizballah soldier is just a step up from the rocks hurled by
Palestinian youth's in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, to believe otherwise is
to reveal one's self as a complete fool. It is essential that the American
viewing public perceive Israel as the victim and the poor, outgunned, and
desperate, Hizballah soldier as a dangerous persecutor of benevolent Jewry.
Don't be fooled, this is nothing more than the continuation of the big lie.
Once again, if you cannot grasp the concept that modern military technology
can easily defeat individuals running around with large bottle rockets on
their shoulders; then you need to turn the television off. This isn't to say
that Hizballah soldiers aren't dedicated and in some cases dangerous to
small numbers of Israeli soldiers, one has to admire their moxy and
determination, but nonetheless, in the end, all a Hizballah soldier has to
protect him against an Israeli soldier sitting behind three feet of tank
armor is a few millimeters of flesh propped up by a relatively weak skeletal
frame. But admitting to this on television isn't conducive to the picture
the establishment media wants to paint for the ignorant American. Remember
this, because if you don't, and you love your children, you'll soon find
them being drafted to kill and die for Israel. Israel needs your children
and they are already exploiting the Jewish media here in the United States
to set the stage for a future military draft that will send your children
off to die in wars that do not serve the interests of America or Americans.

Now, for the reader who refuses to believe that Jews have ever been the
perpetrators of horrific acts against defenseless persons, carefully
consider the following. On April 15, 1946, a group of Eastern European Jews
in Germany, with the complicity of Jewish American soldiers[2] poisoned the
bread of some 12,000 German POWs with arsenic and murdered more than 1000 of
them.[3] Michael Bar-Zohar, an Israeli Jew, wrote a book published in 1967
entitled The Avengers,[4] that delved into the many unbelievable atrocities
committed by Jews against Germans, both civilian and former military, i.e.
POWs in the immediate post war period. Bar-Zohar didn't pull any punches;
according to him and those he interviewed for the book the Germans deserved
it. Bar-Zohar then proceeded to explain nonchalantly how the American
military covered up the mass murder in an effort to keep the German public
in the dark. One wonders if the United States military isn't doing the same
in Iraq today?

In another passage Bar-Zohar writes about the Jewish Brigade, a military
unit adopted by the British and composed of Jews from Palestine willing to
fight on the side of the Allies during the Second World War. According to
rumors at the time the Jewish Brigade was scheduled to enter Germany
immediately following the end of hostilities. With candor, the author
described the aberrant joy felt by these Jewish soldiers as they fantasized
about what they'd do when they got to Germany, about how they would murder
German civilians in "cold blood," and rape German women:

"But now they were going to Germany! The men discussed the news with great
excitement - it was too good to be true! Give us just a month there, only a
month" they told each other. "We'll give them something to remember us by
forever. They'll have real reasons for hating us now. We'll have just one
pogrom - in round numbers, we'll burn down a thousand houses and kill five
hundred people and rape one hundred women." And more than one youngster was
heard to say: "I must kill a German in cold blood [Note, there is no
distinction between combatant and civilian - italics mine], I must. And I
must rape a German girl. That's our war aim, revenge! Not Roosevelt's four
freedoms or the greater glory of the British Empire or Stalin's ideology,
but vengeance, Jewish vengeance."[5]

Well so much for the idea that Jews aren't capable of being perpetrators,
they indeed are, and if former President Truman can be believed, they are
the worst kind of perpetrators, completely and totally devoid of compassion
and without a modicum of decency or mercy for the vanquished.

"The Jews, I find, are very, very selfish. They care not how many Estonians,
Latvians, Finns, Poles, Yugoslavs or Greeks get murdered or mistreated as
D[isplaced] P[ersons] as long as the Jews get special treatment. Yet when
they have power, physical, financial or political neither Hitler nor Stalin
has anything on them for cruelty or mistreatment to the under dog. Put an
underdog on top and it makes no difference whether his name is Russian,
Jewish, Negro, Management, Labor, Mormon, Baptist he goes haywire. I've
found very, very few who remember their past condition when prosperity
comes."[6]

Lastly, I'll leave the so-called Christian Zionist or the skeptic with a few
words uttered by Ariel Sharon himself to an Israeli journalist in 1983:

"Even today I am willing to volunteer to do the dirty work for Israel, to
kill as many Arabs as necessary, to deport them, to expel and burn them, to
have everyone hate us, to pull the rug from underneath the feet of the
Diaspora Jews, so that they will be forced to run to us crying. Even if it
means blowing up one or two synagogues here and there, I don't care. And I
don't mind if after the job is done you put me in front of a Nuremberg trial
and then jail me for life. Hang me if you want, as a war criminal. Then you
can spruce up your Jewish conscience and enter the respectable club of
civilized nations, nations that are large and healthy. What you lot don't
understand is that the dirty work of Zionism is not finished yet, far from
it."[7]

So if you continue to support Israel unconditionally you may in fact be
carrying the anti-Christ upon your shoulders to his throne in Jerusalem, one
cannot support Zionism and consider one's self a Christian, the two
religions are diametrically opposed to one another and have nothing
whatsoever in common. The Jewish media in America has made Ariel Sharon into
a saint, despite the fact that the man is a monster, and unless you are
willing to support the devil's "dirty work," you had better take care as to
what you believe in the near future. Quite obviously if a "synagogue or
 two," were to go up in flames, one cannot, with any conscience anyway,
automatically assume it's Arab terrorists or Nazi's that committed the act,
after all, Sharon himself said such a thing wouldn't bother him in the
least. Consider too that when an American city goes up in a mushroom cloud,
and the Jewish media and Zionist occupied government claim that Iran and/or
Syria did it, that the very same scum have the American media in a virtual
stranglehold too. No, you can bet that the "dirty work of Zionism is not
finished yet, far from it."

[1] I spent three years in the United States Army and never met a single
Jew. My brother spent six years in the United States Navy and only met one
Jewish sailor. I personally have never met a Jewish police officer, nor have
I ever read about one that worked in any area in law enforcement other than
as a spokesperson and/or in administration.

[2] Bar-Zohar, Michael. The Avengers. 1967. Hawthorn Books, inc, New York.
Pg 48.

[3] According to Michael Bar-Zohar, in his book The Avengers, as many as
three thousand may have died. Pg 42.
[4] Bar-Zohar, Michael. The Avengers. 1967. Hawthorn Books, inc, New York.
[5] Bar-Zohar, Michael. The Avengers. 1967. Hawthorn Books, inc, New York.
Pg. 20-21.

[6] The Washington Post. Washington DC, USA. Friday, July 11, 2003.
[7] Oz, Amos. [1983] Les voix d'israel, Calmann-Levy, Paris. Translated by
Guy Seniak. [Interview on pages 79-91].

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Global Organized Crime = ZYD Mafia!!
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 09:15:42 -0700
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On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 09:26:43 -0700, in alt.politics.nationalism.white
GayKenMcVay  wrote:

A warning to the whole world.

On 7 Sep 2006 11:51:39 -0700, in uk.politics.misc "Orac II"
 wrote:

Russia Takes Underworld to New Level

2006-09-06

Jewish mobsters enjoy safe haven in Israel

Not long ago there was only one Mafia to worry about. But lately guys
with names like "Guido" and "Joey" have been muscled off the most-
wanted list by other guys with names like "Vitaly" and "Slava."
Russian mobsters, as Robert I. Friedman shows in his timely new book,
Red Mafiya, aren't just copying their Italian counterparts. In many
ways, they're taking professional crime to a whole new level.

Consider violence. When the Italian mobsters get mad at somebody, it's
usually just the offending party who pays the price. Get on the wrong
side of the Russians, reports Friedman, and they'll wipe out your
whole family. And that's not the only way the two crime groups differ.
In key profit centers, such as bank fraud, Russians are scoring record
gains, but it's in the global arena where they're really beating the
competition.

Being international in outlook gives Russian mobsters an advantage in
drug sales, money laundering and the illegal trade of military
equipment. And being mostly Jewish gives them a safe haven in Israel
where many Russian Mafia types are citizens and thus immune from
extradition to the United States when the feds get after them.

As they did during Soviet times, crime and government function more or
less as one in post-communist Russia. Today, though, the same thing
may be happening in Israel, which, Friedman claims, is close to
becoming a wholly owned subsidiary of the Russian crime syndicates.
"With two decades of unimpeded growth the Russian Mafiya has succeeded
in turning Israel into its very own "mini-state,' in which it operates
with virtual impunity," he writes. Warns one international law
enforcement official quoted by Friedman: "Israel is going to have to
do something. They could lose their whole country."

Full article
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Subject: It's The ZYDS/Jews Stupid!!
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It's the Jews Stupid
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 20:00:16 -0600
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On 26 Sep 2006 10:50:51 -0700, in alt.politics.nationalism.white "j larue"
 wrote:

It's the Jews Stupid

Curt Maynard

[...]

At this point, let us get serious. Let us reject, at least
momentarily, the knee-jerk reaction to dismiss what is written below
based upon our emotional response to it. Let us consider carefully the
facts, let us then consider what they might mean, and in the end, let
us consider what the ultimate ramifications of these facts may be in
our not too distant future. When I ask for instance, what group, more
so than any other distinguishable group, was responsible for the
Bolshevik Revolution, and I then answer that question by saying, "it's
the Jews stupid," don't reject it as an arbitrary response; it isn't
arbitrary, it's an empirical fact, and one that can be easily proven
if the reader chooses to cast aside his or her emotional response and
to engage in a few hours of research.

What distinct group has been ejected from more counties over the last
two millennia than any other group? It's the Jews stupid.

What distinct group has led more radical subversive movements within
their host nations than any other distinguishable group? It's the Jews
stupid.

What group has consistently avoided military service, especially in
the front lines, than any other group? It's the Jews stupid.[9]

What group more so than any other has always had its patriotism
questioned? It's the Jews stupid.

What specific ethnic/religious group more so than any other has
consistently sought to ensnare and then exploit native populations
under the yolk of usury?

What ethnic/religious group dominates international finance? It's the
Jews stupid.

What ethnic group dominates the media in Europe and North America?
It's the Jews stupid.

What ethnic group dominates Hollywood? It's the Jews stupid.[10]

What ethnic group has done more to subvert true scientific inquiry in
the sciences than any other - imbedding themselves in the disciplines
of psychology, sociology and anthropology - and doing so in such a way
as to hijack them and completely and totally politicize them? It's the
Jews stupid.[11]

What ethnic group gave us "multiculturalism," and followed that up
with an indoctrination program that reinforced this divisive farce by
reaching right into our job place, homes and schools via compulsory
"diversity" and "tolerance," training programs and presentations? It's
the Jews stupid.[12]

Who brought us "Judeo-Christianity," a concept that erroneously
amalgamates two distinctly different and diametrically opposed
religious and cultural views? It's the Jews stupid.[13]

What ethnic group has done more than any other to identify itself as
the only real victims of Nazi Germany and the Second World War? It's
the Jews stupid.

What ethnic group has perpetrated one of the greatest frauds on
mankind in the form of the so-called "holocaust?" It's the Jews
stupid! [This is an important point - please see associated footnote]
[14]

What ethnic group dominates the Russian mafia? It's the Jews stupid.

What ethnic group dominates the pornography industry? It's the Jews
stupid.

What ethnic group is more responsible than any other for the ongoing
sex slave trade? It's the Jews stupid.

Members of what ethnic group intentionally attacked an American ship
in 1967 named the USS Liberty, in what amounted to an act of war
against the United States of America and then used their co-ethnics in
the United States to cover that fact up? It's the Jews stupid.

Members of what ethnic group sought to bomb American assets in Cairo
Egypt in the 1950s and blame it on the Arabs in an attempt to frame
them and convince Americans to financially and militarily support the
Zionist state? It's the Jews stupid.[15]

What group more than any other has sought to undermine Christian
values and western civilization in an effort to divide and conquer?
It's the Jews stupid.

What ethnic group was overly represented in the junk bond scandals of
the 1980s? It's the Jews stupid.[16]

Members of what ethnic group were deeply involved in the Enron scandal
but were able to utilize the Jewish medias influence and access to the
American mind in such a way as to nearly eliminate their role? It's
the Jews stupid.[17]

This list could go on and on, it would require a tomb the size of Moby
Dick to encompass the many crimes ethnic Jews have committed against
Gentiles just in the last decade. The point of writing this isn't to
convince readers that every Jew is deeply entwined in a plot to
subvert Gentile society, but that Judaism is not a peaceful religion
that seeks to coexist in harmony with non-Jews, the fact is Judaism is
first and foremost a "supremacist" religion that advocates dominance
over non-Jews.

Unless Gentiles become aware of the fact that Zionism is nothing but
Judaism's latest "ism," preceded in the past by many others, i.e.
feminism, socialism, communism, and that these "ism's" are nothing
more than tactics used in a grand strategy to weaken our will and
western civilization itself, we'll never get to the heart of the
problem at hand, we'll continue to fight wars for the Jews, to kill
for the Jews, to arrest and incarcerate people for the Jews, to
suppress the right to free expression for the Jews, etc. etc. ad
infinitum. The time to liberate ourselves is now.


Read entire essay at
http://pcapostate.blogspot.com/2006/06/its-jews-stupid.html


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Subject: ZYD KOLLABORACI WITH NAZIS=KASTNER, RUMKOWSLI, WIESENTHAL + 51 More!! Part 2/3
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You seem to dislike the exposure, by renowned researchers of the
TRUTH, that the Christkiller ZHIDS WERE ACTIVE COLLABORATORS
WITH THE NAZIS IN WWII!!

Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL was a nazi GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!

Now that there at least 52 proven instances, with more being revealed
each month, the world will now see what many victims have known for 60
years!!

Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL was a nazi GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!


>> > >The Accusations

>> > >Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

>> > >"Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>> > >Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
>> > >In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald,
>> > >he wrote:

>> > >'I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - I accuse
>> > >certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

>> > >This small group of quislings knew what was happening to their
>> > >brethren in Hitler's gas chambers and bought their their own lives with
>> > >the price of silence. Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council
>> > >which spoke for all Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at
>> > >Auschwitz - the number is still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics
>> > >of the exterminations...I took these terrible statistics with me when I
>> > >escaped in 1944 and I was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three  weeks
>> > >notice that Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
>> > >chambers...Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, 'I know of your
>> > >plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.'

>> > >Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>> > >took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>> > >bargaining end there.

>> > >Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little
>> > >fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany collapsed,
>> > >to set himself up in the Argentine..."(Ben Hecht, op.cit. pp261-2)

>> > >These accusations are confirmed by the 'Eichmann Confessions'
>> > >published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

>> > >"I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>> > >stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation,
>> > >I wanted to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to
>> > >Himmler's directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>> > >political officials in Budapest...Among them Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>> > >authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner
>> > >was a young man about my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist.
>> > >He agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation - and even
>> > >keep order in the collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a
>> > >few hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>> > >It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price...was
>> > >not too high for me.

>> > >.We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>> > >cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>> > >smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver case
>> > >and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish and  reserve
>> > >he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

>> > >Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>> > >of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel...

>> > >As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>> > >attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>> > >Zionist leaders....I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>> > >thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
>> > >goal...'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have this
>> > >group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping
>> > >keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape.
>> > >After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...
>> > >That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner" (Hecht, ibid, p.26ö-61)

>> > >Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false, do not relate
>> > >merely to 'the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
>> > >equipment', as Dr. Foster imagines, and the term 'collaboration' is the term
>> > >that would apply. It seems unlikely that if Dr. Foster had known what the
>> > >accusation actually was, he would have condemned 3CR saying 'In these
>> > >circumstances, to talk of collaboration is malicious and absurd'.

>> > >Are the accusations against Kastner true?

>> > >According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>> > >Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>> > >accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>> > >than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>> > >Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>> > >Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>> > >prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.

>> > >The Verdict

>> > >Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi in Israel's District Court of
>> > >Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>> > >The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>> > >studied carefully, since a substantial extract from it, broadcast on 3CR,
>> > >has been complained about by the VJBD as allegedly offensive to the Jewish
>> > >community, likely to promote anti-semitism, likely to promote racism,
>> > >in bad taste and contrary to common sense.

>> > >It is the actual words used that are the subject of the Board's
>> > >complaint, not the manner of their representation by 3CR. Presumably
>> > >the Board itself was not aware just whose words they were when it made
>> > >its' complaint, which shows how complete suppression of information can
>> > >backfire on the censors themselves.

>> > >Here then are excerpts from the verdict of Judge Halevi, who later
>> > >became one of the panel of three judges that tried Eichmann:

>> > >"The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded the
>> > >deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>> > >confidence in the false information that they were being transferred to
>> > >Kenyermeze.

>> > >The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>> > >they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.

>> > >The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>> > >rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>> > >others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead
>> > >the Jews.
>> > >They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>> > >of Jewish leaders.

>> > >The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>> > >leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>> > >spreading such false information and did not protest.

>> > >Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>> > >persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.

>> > >The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>> > >knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>> > >deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>> > >quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>> > >hampering the deportation orders.

>> > >Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>> > >dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attemptt to overpower
>> > >these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to
>> > >the deportations were organized in these ghettos.

>> > >And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>> > >Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.

>> > >The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>> > >Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>> > >their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>> > >who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>> > >deportations...these same leaders did not join the people of their community
>> > >in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.

>> > >The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>> > >extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council
>> > >in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did
>> > >this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>> > >dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of
>> > >its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>> > >Jewish leaders into oollaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>> > >catastrophe.

>> > >The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>> > >Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.

>> > >The Nazis drew a lesson from the Warsaw ghetto and other belligerent
>> > >ghettos. They learned that Jews were able to sell their lives very
>> > >expensively if honorably guided.

>> > >Eichmann did not want a second Warsaw. For this reason, the Nazis
>> > >exerted themselves to mislead and bribe the Jewish leaders.

>> > >The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>> > >Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>> > >task easier.

>> > >The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>> > >summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>> > >not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>> > >chiefs.
>> > >It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>> > >Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>> > >underground.

>> > >The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>> > >Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did
>> > >the S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the
>> > >Jewish Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?

>> > >The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>> > >these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
>> > >the extermination plan of the killers ?

>> > >The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner's Rescue
>> > >Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>> > >friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary - their total
>> > >annihilation.

>> > >The Nazi's patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>> > >six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>> > >Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>> > >attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>> > >to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a
>> > >great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that
>> > >would also justify his conduct - his political negotiation with Nazis and
>> > >the Nazi patronage of his committee.

>> > >When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>> > >soul to the German Satan. The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority
>> > >of the Jews, in order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the
>> > >agreement between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
>> > >the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the
>> > >Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority of
>> > >Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand.
>> > >An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that
>> > >Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp
>> > >and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>> > >condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents
>> > >and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out
>> > >from the book of the living.

>> > >One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner's collaboration and
>> > >put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not
>> > >only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>> > >area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>> > >rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.

>> > >All of Kastner's answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>> > >to evade this truth.

>> > >Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>> > >wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted  quickly
>> > >to another."

>> > >(Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53; Attorney
>> > >General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem, June 22, 1955).

>> > >Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>> > >Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>> > >'new line' of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:

>> > >"From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the 'new line'
>> > >stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.

>> > >According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>> > >Jews.

>> > >This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>> > >'rescue' work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>> > >of Kastner's involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>> > >criminals.

>> > >Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>> > >achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>> > >Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.

>> > >Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>> > >Exterminators of the Jews was solidifed in Budapest and Vienna.
>> > >Kastner's duties were part and parcel of the genral duties of the S.S.

>> > >In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>> > >the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.

>> > >All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>> > >were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler". (ibid)

>> > >Judge Halevi continues:

>> > >"Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>> > >when he denied he had interceded in Becher's hehalf. Moreover, he concealed
>> > >the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>> > >Agency and the Jewish World Congress.

>> > >As to the contents of Kastner's affidavit, it was enough for the
>> > >defense to prove Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to
>> > >remove Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.

>> > >The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>> > >criminal.

>> > >The lies in the contents of Kastner's affidavit, the lies in his
>> > >testimony concerning the document, and Kastner's knowing participation in  the
>> > >activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last
>> > >minute fake rescue activities - all these combine to show one overwhelming
>> > >truth - that this affidavit was not given in good faith.

>> > >Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>> > >stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
>> > >declared in the affidavit.

>> > >The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>> > >but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
>> > >and no good faith in Kastner's testimony, 'I never doubted for one moment
>> > >the good intention of good Becher'.

>> > >It is clear that the positive recommandation by Kastner, not only in
>> > >his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>> > >World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>> > >exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
>> > >of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the
>> > >contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were
>> > >sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that there
>> > >was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal.
>> > >Kastner's affidavit in favor of Becher was a willfully false affidavit
>> > >given in favor of a war criminal to save him from trial and punishment
>> > >in Nuremberg.

>> > >Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>> > >accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>> > >his statements." (ibid)

>> > >Judge Halevi's verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>> > >libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproven
>> > >accusation - that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>> > >partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>> > >ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
>> > >pounds as court costs.

>> > >In fairness to Kastner it should me mentioned that as well as having
>> > >been unpaid, it was never established that he ever wore S.S. uniform.

>> > >Nevertheless, this verdict, and the evidence on which it was based,
>> > >completely establishes the truth of everything said on 3CR about the
>> > >matter.

>> > >If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>> > >individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>> > >attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>> > >pointed to much more than that.

>> > >But the story does not end there.






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You seem to dislike the exposure, by renowned researchers of the
TRUTH, that the Christkiller ZHIDS WERE ACTIVE COLLABORATORS
WITH THE NAZIS IN WWII!!

Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL was a nazi GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!

Now that there at least 52 proven instances, with more being revealed
each month, the world will now see what many victims have known for 60
years!!

Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL was a nazi GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!


>> > >The Accusations

>> > >Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

>> > >"Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>> > >Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
>> > >In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald,
>> > >he wrote:

>> > >'I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - I accuse
>> > >certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

>> > >This small group of quislings knew what was happening to their
>> > >brethren in Hitler's gas chambers and bought their their own lives with
>> > >the price of silence. Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council
>> > >which spoke for all Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at
>> > >Auschwitz - the number is still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics
>> > >of the exterminations...I took these terrible statistics with me when I
>> > >escaped in 1944 and I was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three  weeks
>> > >notice that Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
>> > >chambers...Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, 'I know of your
>> > >plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.'

>> > >Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>> > >took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>> > >bargaining end there.

>> > >Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little
>> > >fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany collapsed,
>> > >to set himself up in the Argentine..."(Ben Hecht, op.cit. pp261-2)

>> > >These accusations are confirmed by the 'Eichmann Confessions'
>> > >published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

>> > >"I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>> > >stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation,
>> > >I wanted to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to
>> > >Himmler's directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>> > >political officials in Budapest...Among them Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>> > >authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner
>> > >was a young man about my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist.
>> > >He agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation - and even
>> > >keep order in the collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a
>> > >few hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>> > >It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price...was
>> > >not too high for me.

>> > >.We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>> > >cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>> > >smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver case
>> > >and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish and  reserve
>> > >he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

>> > >Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>> > >of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel...

>> > >As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>> > >attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>> > >Zionist leaders....I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>> > >thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
>> > >goal...'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have this
>> > >group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping
>> > >keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape.
>> > >After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...
>> > >That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner" (Hecht, ibid, p.26ö-61)

>> > >Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false, do not relate
>> > >merely to 'the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
>> > >equipment', as Dr. Foster imagines, and the term 'collaboration' is the term
>> > >that would apply. It seems unlikely that if Dr. Foster had known what the
>> > >accusation actually was, he would have condemned 3CR saying 'In these
>> > >circumstances, to talk of collaboration is malicious and absurd'.

>> > >Are the accusations against Kastner true?

>> > >According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>> > >Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>> > >accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>> > >than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>> > >Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>> > >Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>> > >prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.

>> > >The Verdict

>> > >Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi in Israel's District Court of
>> > >Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>> > >The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>> > >studied carefully, since a substantial extract from it, broadcast on 3CR,
>> > >has been complained about by the VJBD as allegedly offensive to the Jewish
>> > >community, likely to promote anti-semitism, likely to promote racism,
>> > >in bad taste and contrary to common sense.

>> > >It is the actual words used that are the subject of the Board's
>> > >complaint, not the manner of their representation by 3CR. Presumably
>> > >the Board itself was not aware just whose words they were when it made
>> > >its' complaint, which shows how complete suppression of information can
>> > >backfire on the censors themselves.

>> > >Here then are excerpts from the verdict of Judge Halevi, who later
>> > >became one of the panel of three judges that tried Eichmann:

>> > >"The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded the
>> > >deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>> > >confidence in the false information that they were being transferred to
>> > >Kenyermeze.

>> > >The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>> > >they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.

>> > >The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>> > >rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>> > >others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead
>> > >the Jews.
>> > >They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>> > >of Jewish leaders.

>> > >The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>> > >leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>> > >spreading such false information and did not protest.

>> > >Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>> > >persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.

>> > >The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>> > >knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>> > >deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>> > >quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>> > >hampering the deportation orders.

>> > >Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>> > >dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attemptt to overpower
>> > >these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to
>> > >the deportations were organized in these ghettos.

>> > >And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>> > >Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.

>> > >The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>> > >Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>> > >their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>> > >who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>> > >deportations...these same leaders did not join the people of their community
>> > >in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.

>> > >The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>> > >extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council
>> > >in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did
>> > >this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>> > >dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of
>> > >its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>> > >Jewish leaders into oollaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>> > >catastrophe.

>> > >The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>> > >Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.

>> > >The Nazis drew a lesson from the Warsaw ghetto and other belligerent
>> > >ghettos. They learned that Jews were able to sell their lives very
>> > >expensively if honorably guided.

>> > >Eichmann did not want a second Warsaw. For this reason, the Nazis
>> > >exerted themselves to mislead and bribe the Jewish leaders.

>> > >The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>> > >Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>> > >task easier.

>> > >The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>> > >summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>> > >not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>> > >chiefs.
>> > >It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>> > >Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>> > >underground.

>> > >The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>> > >Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did
>> > >the S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the
>> > >Jewish Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?

>> > >The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>> > >these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
>> > >the extermination plan of the killers ?

>> > >The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner's Rescue
>> > >Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>> > >friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary - their total
>> > >annihilation.

>> > >The Nazi's patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>> > >six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>> > >Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>> > >attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>> > >to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a
>> > >great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that
>> > >would also justify his conduct - his political negotiation with Nazis and
>> > >the Nazi patronage of his committee.

>> > >When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>> > >soul to the German Satan. The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority
>> > >of the Jews, in order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the
>> > >agreement between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
>> > >the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the
>> > >Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority of
>> > >Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand.
>> > >An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that
>> > >Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp
>> > >and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>> > >condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents
>> > >and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out
>> > >from the book of the living.

>> > >One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner's collaboration and
>> > >put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not
>> > >only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>> > >area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>> > >rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.

>> > >All of Kastner's answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>> > >to evade this truth.

>> > >Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>> > >wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted  quickly
>> > >to another."

>> > >(Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53; Attorney
>> > >General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem, June 22, 1955).

>> > >Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>> > >Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>> > >'new line' of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:

>> > >"From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the 'new line'
>> > >stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.

>> > >According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>> > >Jews.

>> > >This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>> > >'rescue' work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>> > >of Kastner's involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>> > >criminals.

>> > >Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>> > >achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>> > >Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.

>> > >Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>> > >Exterminators of the Jews was solidifed in Budapest and Vienna.
>> > >Kastner's duties were part and parcel of the genral duties of the S.S.

>> > >In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>> > >the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.

>> > >All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>> > >were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler". (ibid)

>> > >Judge Halevi continues:

>> > >"Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>> > >when he denied he had interceded in Becher's hehalf. Moreover, he concealed
>> > >the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>> > >Agency and the Jewish World Congress.

>> > >As to the contents of Kastner's affidavit, it was enough for the
>> > >defense to prove Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to
>> > >remove Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.

>> > >The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>> > >criminal.

>> > >The lies in the contents of Kastner's affidavit, the lies in his
>> > >testimony concerning the document, and Kastner's knowing participation in  the
>> > >activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last
>> > >minute fake rescue activities - all these combine to show one overwhelming
>> > >truth - that this affidavit was not given in good faith.

>> > >Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>> > >stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
>> > >declared in the affidavit.

>> > >The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>> > >but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
>> > >and no good faith in Kastner's testimony, 'I never doubted for one moment
>> > >the good intention of good Becher'.

>> > >It is clear that the positive recommandation by Kastner, not only in
>> > >his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>> > >World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>> > >exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
>> > >of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the
>> > >contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were
>> > >sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that there
>> > >was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal.
>> > >Kastner's affidavit in favor of Becher was a willfully false affidavit
>> > >given in favor of a war criminal to save him from trial and punishment
>> > >in Nuremberg.

>> > >Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>> > >accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>> > >his statements." (ibid)

>> > >Judge Halevi's verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>> > >libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproven
>> > >accusation - that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>> > >partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>> > >ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
>> > >pounds as court costs.

>> > >In fairness to Kastner it should me mentioned that as well as having
>> > >been unpaid, it was never established that he ever wore S.S. uniform.

>> > >Nevertheless, this verdict, and the evidence on which it was based,
>> > >completely establishes the truth of everything said on 3CR about the
>> > >matter.

>> > >If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>> > >individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>> > >attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>> > >pointed to much more than that.

>> > >But the story does not end there.






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This is a repost of an extremely important article, documenting the deliberate
collaboration of the Zionists/ZYDS, with the nazis.

Never forget the collaboartion of KASTNER, RUMKOWSKI, WIESENTHAL,
plus another 51 ZYDS!!

From: The Truth Seeker 
Subject: 51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 12:53:13 +0000 (UTC)

51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis.

By Lenni Brenner

Lenni Brenner has collated documents that relate to how the Zionist movement
collaborated with German Nazism and Italian Fascism. Given the subsequent
Holocaust against the Jews by the Nazis, many will be surprised and appalled
that a political movement, which supposedly supported Jewish liberation, was
prepared to collaborate with the most anti-semitic of regimes.

Among the documents is the relatively well known and infamous ŒStern Gang
Proposal¹ in which the organisation of future Israeli PM Yitzhak Shamir offers
to join in WWII on Œthe side of the German Reich¹. There is also the
embarrassing documents of the German Zionists who saw the Nazis as fellow
nationalists and were thus sympathetic to ŒGerman national renewal¹, the
memoirs of an SS officer who stays in Palestine as the guest of the Zionist
movement for 6 months.

These acts of collaboration were not limited to the right wing fringe of the
Zionist movement but went to the heart of the Zionist Labour establishment
when the head of the Haganah, Feival Polkes, became a willing paid informer of
the Gestapo. He was even handled by one of the architects of the Final
Solution, Adolf Eichmann, who also travelled to Palestine to liaise with the
Zionists.

These shocking historical documents will make you realise that the history of
the political movement which founded the state of Israel is not quite what it
seems.

They also prove that Zionists will do *anything* to protect their precious
political movement, even if it means sacrificing several million Jews in the
process, then exploiting their suffering to secure the greater goal of a
Zionist State.

The Truth Seeker has spoken.


On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 11:08:04 -0700, Ken McVayAIDS/SOB  wrote:
>Reply-To: "George" ,
>PRAWDA!
>
>On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:14:47 -0700, Heinrich Himmelfarb
> wrote:
>
>>The story documented below means that the KASTNER CASE was not an
>>isolated incident!!
>
>Now even Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to be a Nazi GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!
>
>
>>On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:25:52 GMT, c@c.cc wrote:
>>> 51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis  
>
>>>September 2004, page 86 
>
>>>Book Review
>
>>>51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis
>>>By Lenni Brenner, ed. Barricade Books, 2002, 342 pp. List: $22; AET:
>>>$15.
>
>>>Reviewed by Sara Powell
>>>It’s no secret that Zionism embraced political expediency to advance
>>>the cause of carving Eretz-Israel from the land of its native
>>>inhabitants. In his 1983 book, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators,
>>>Lenni Brenner shows that 20th century Zionists observed shockingly few
>>>limits to that expediency. Not surprisingly, the book received little
>>>coverage in the American media. Now, in 51 Documents, Brenner has
>>>compiled a wide variety of letters, statements, articles, and
>>>judgements—some of which appeared in his earlier book—by a broad array
>>>of activists and authors, that documents Zionist cooperration with the
>>>Nazis. On the face of it, the notion seems absurd. However, Brenner
>>>presents the case—made in many Zionists’ own words—that the Nazi
>>>agenda of expelling the Jews from Germany fit nicely with the Zionist
>>>plan for enticing those Jews into settling in Palestine and creating a
>>>new Jewish nation. 
>>>
>>>In addition to introductory and concluding chapters, the book is
>>>organized into five sections which lead the reader through early,
>>>pre-Zionist documents; pre-Holocaust ideological factions; the
>>>Holocaust era itself; and a chapter on the Stern Gang and the Nazis.
>>>Readers should note that a few documents are not indicative of
>>>collaboration in and of themselves, but provide the background to
>>>others written in response. These latter do indicate levels of
>>>collaboration between Zionists and fascists, both the Nazis in
>>>Germany, and those in Mussolini’s Italy. Brenner’s brief explanatory
>>>notes at the beginning of each document are helpful, as are the
>>>glossary and index.
>>>
>>>51 Documents assumes a certain knowledge of Zionist history, and
>>>requires a close reading and some deconstructive efforts on the part
>>>of the reader. Those willing to commit the time and effort, however,
>>>are rewarded with some stunning revelations. The reason some Zionists
>>>eschewed the boycott against Hitler’s Germany, for instance, is that
>>>they had a financial deal—Ha’avara—with Germany allowing Jews to
>>>exchange their wealth for goods to be exported to Palestine at less of
>>>a loss, as an incentive to emigrate. Those wondering why Zionists
>>>today are so organized and experienced in their public relations
>>>efforts discover that these battles have been fought before. Moreover,
>>>the section on Nazi and Zionist understandings of “nationality” versus
>>>citizenship reveals how German and Israeli practices are based on the
>>>same concept. 
>>>
>>>51 Documents also sheds a whole new light on the term “Holocaust
>>>guilt,” frequently understood to mean Western, non-Jewish guilt for
>>>not acting against the Holocaust earlier. However, these documents
>>>make it clear that Holocaust guilt began with those Zionists who made
>>>the undoubtedly difficult, but politically expedient choice to place
>>>Eretz-Israel at the top of their priorities, above the lives of their
>>>threatened European brethren.
>>>
>>>From a Zionist Executive Meeting speech by Yitzhak Gruenbaum on Feb.
>>>18, 1943:
>>>
>>>And when some asked me: “Can’t you give money from Keren Ha Yesod
>>>(Palestine Foundation Fund) to save Jews in the Diaspora?” I said:
>>>“No!” And again I say no....And, because of these things, people
>>>called me an anti-Semite, and concluded that I’m guilty, for the fact
>>>that we don’t give ourselves completely to rescue actions. (p. 211)
>>>
>>>However difficult it may be, the reader must confront some rather
>>>disturbing conclusions. The most unsettling realization for this
>>>reviewer is that pre-Holocaust Zionists were able to politically align
>>>themselves with the Nazis because both groups fundamentally saw race
>>>as an important dividing line—and, moreover, were determined to keep
>>>it that way. From Vladimir Jabotinsky to Albert Einstein,
>>>“assimilation” of Jews into the societies in which they lived was not
>>>an acceptable option. Rather, Jewish nationalism required equality on
>>>a national level, not a personal one. As Jabotinsky explained, “It is
>>>impossible for a man to become assimilated with people whose blood is
>>>different from his own” (p. 10); in Einstein’s words, “Palestine is
>>>first and foremost not a refuge for East European Jews, but the
>>>incarnation of a reawakening sense of national solidarity” (p. 29).
>>>Finally, David Yisraeli, a member of the Stern Gang, wrote the
>>>following in late 1940, as part of a proposal to Hitler. It was
>>>delivered in 1941 to two German diplomats in Lebanon.
>>>
>>>3. The establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and
>>>totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would be
>>>in the interest of a maintained and strengthened future German
>>>position of power in the Near East (p. 301).
>>>
>>>Such beliefs, of course, were not limited to Nazis and Zionists.
>>>Scientific and philosophical constructs of the day considered such
>>>differentiation legitimate, and ideas of racial difference—and,
>>>therefore, racial supremacy—were practiced around the world.
>>>
>>>Another disturbing conclusion a reader must inevitably face is that
>>>Zionists learned both tactical and political lessons from the Nazis
>>>and that, even today, these lessons are applied to further the Zionist
>>>cause. Although most likely known to potential readers of this book,
>>>another disturbing element is the cover-up of the less than savory
>>>roles of current Israeli leaders, including former prime ministers, in
>>>the terrorist Irgun and Stern Gang just before, during, and after the
>>>Holocaust. Likewise, the succumbing of various U.S. officials to
>>>Zionist pressure is a familiar, but distressing, story.
>>>
>>>51 Documents seems to represent a renewed attempt by Brenner to bring
>>>information regarding Zionist collaboration with the Nazis to U.S.
>>>supporters of Israel, as well as to Jews and Muslims, in order to
>>>expand dialogue with knowledge, and save lives—both Palestinian and
>>>Israeli—in the process. Readers of 51 Documents will find it difficult
>>>not to remove the rose colored glasses that so many seem to wear when
>>>examining Zionism.
>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
>is a revolutionary act." 
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages. 
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
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>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
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>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
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>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
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>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
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>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages. 
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant
>
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>seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
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>
>Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
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>even if he or she were not naked"?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
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>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
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>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
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From KMcVay@nazikor.net Thu Dec 20 14:20:53 EST 2007
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Subject: ZYD KOLLABORACI WITH NAZIS=KASTNER, RUMKOWSLI, WIESENTHAL + 51 More!! Part 2/3
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You seem to dislike the exposure, by renowned researchers of the
TRUTH, that the Christkiller ZHIDS WERE ACTIVE COLLABORATORS
WITH THE NAZIS IN WWII!!

Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL was a nazi GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!

Now that there at least 52 proven instances, with more being revealed
each month, the world will now see what many victims have known for 60
years!!

Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL was a nazi GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!


>> > >The Accusations

>> > >Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

>> > >"Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>> > >Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
>> > >In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald,
>> > >he wrote:

>> > >'I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - I accuse
>> > >certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

>> > >This small group of quislings knew what was happening to their
>> > >brethren in Hitler's gas chambers and bought their their own lives with
>> > >the price of silence. Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council
>> > >which spoke for all Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at
>> > >Auschwitz - the number is still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics
>> > >of the exterminations...I took these terrible statistics with me when I
>> > >escaped in 1944 and I was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three  weeks
>> > >notice that Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
>> > >chambers...Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, 'I know of your
>> > >plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.'

>> > >Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>> > >took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>> > >bargaining end there.

>> > >Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little
>> > >fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany collapsed,
>> > >to set himself up in the Argentine..."(Ben Hecht, op.cit. pp261-2)

>> > >These accusations are confirmed by the 'Eichmann Confessions'
>> > >published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

>> > >"I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>> > >stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation,
>> > >I wanted to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to
>> > >Himmler's directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>> > >political officials in Budapest...Among them Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>> > >authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner
>> > >was a young man about my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist.
>> > >He agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation - and even
>> > >keep order in the collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a
>> > >few hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>> > >It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price...was
>> > >not too high for me.

>> > >.We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>> > >cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>> > >smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver case
>> > >and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish and  reserve
>> > >he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

>> > >Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>> > >of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel...

>> > >As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>> > >attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>> > >Zionist leaders....I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>> > >thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
>> > >goal...'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have this
>> > >group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping
>> > >keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape.
>> > >After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...
>> > >That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner" (Hecht, ibid, p.26ö-61)

>> > >Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false, do not relate
>> > >merely to 'the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
>> > >equipment', as Dr. Foster imagines, and the term 'collaboration' is the term
>> > >that would apply. It seems unlikely that if Dr. Foster had known what the
>> > >accusation actually was, he would have condemned 3CR saying 'In these
>> > >circumstances, to talk of collaboration is malicious and absurd'.

>> > >Are the accusations against Kastner true?

>> > >According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>> > >Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>> > >accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>> > >than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>> > >Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>> > >Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>> > >prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.

>> > >The Verdict

>> > >Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi in Israel's District Court of
>> > >Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>> > >The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>> > >studied carefully, since a substantial extract from it, broadcast on 3CR,
>> > >has been complained about by the VJBD as allegedly offensive to the Jewish
>> > >community, likely to promote anti-semitism, likely to promote racism,
>> > >in bad taste and contrary to common sense.

>> > >It is the actual words used that are the subject of the Board's
>> > >complaint, not the manner of their representation by 3CR. Presumably
>> > >the Board itself was not aware just whose words they were when it made
>> > >its' complaint, which shows how complete suppression of information can
>> > >backfire on the censors themselves.

>> > >Here then are excerpts from the verdict of Judge Halevi, who later
>> > >became one of the panel of three judges that tried Eichmann:

>> > >"The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded the
>> > >deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>> > >confidence in the false information that they were being transferred to
>> > >Kenyermeze.

>> > >The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>> > >they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.

>> > >The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>> > >rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>> > >others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead
>> > >the Jews.
>> > >They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>> > >of Jewish leaders.

>> > >The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>> > >leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>> > >spreading such false information and did not protest.

>> > >Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>> > >persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.

>> > >The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>> > >knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>> > >deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>> > >quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>> > >hampering the deportation orders.

>> > >Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>> > >dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attemptt to overpower
>> > >these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to
>> > >the deportations were organized in these ghettos.

>> > >And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>> > >Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.

>> > >The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>> > >Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>> > >their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>> > >who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>> > >deportations...these same leaders did not join the people of their community
>> > >in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.

>> > >The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>> > >extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council
>> > >in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did
>> > >this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>> > >dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of
>> > >its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>> > >Jewish leaders into oollaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>> > >catastrophe.

>> > >The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>> > >Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.

>> > >The Nazis drew a lesson from the Warsaw ghetto and other belligerent
>> > >ghettos. They learned that Jews were able to sell their lives very
>> > >expensively if honorably guided.

>> > >Eichmann did not want a second Warsaw. For this reason, the Nazis
>> > >exerted themselves to mislead and bribe the Jewish leaders.

>> > >The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>> > >Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>> > >task easier.

>> > >The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>> > >summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>> > >not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>> > >chiefs.
>> > >It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>> > >Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>> > >underground.

>> > >The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>> > >Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did
>> > >the S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the
>> > >Jewish Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?

>> > >The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>> > >these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
>> > >the extermination plan of the killers ?

>> > >The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner's Rescue
>> > >Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>> > >friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary - their total
>> > >annihilation.

>> > >The Nazi's patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>> > >six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>> > >Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>> > >attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>> > >to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a
>> > >great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that
>> > >would also justify his conduct - his political negotiation with Nazis and
>> > >the Nazi patronage of his committee.

>> > >When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>> > >soul to the German Satan. The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority
>> > >of the Jews, in order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the
>> > >agreement between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
>> > >the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the
>> > >Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority of
>> > >Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand.
>> > >An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that
>> > >Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp
>> > >and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>> > >condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents
>> > >and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out
>> > >from the book of the living.

>> > >One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner's collaboration and
>> > >put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not
>> > >only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>> > >area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>> > >rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.

>> > >All of Kastner's answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>> > >to evade this truth.

>> > >Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>> > >wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted  quickly
>> > >to another."

>> > >(Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53; Attorney
>> > >General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem, June 22, 1955).

>> > >Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>> > >Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>> > >'new line' of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:

>> > >"From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the 'new line'
>> > >stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.

>> > >According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>> > >Jews.

>> > >This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>> > >'rescue' work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>> > >of Kastner's involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>> > >criminals.

>> > >Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>> > >achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>> > >Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.

>> > >Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>> > >Exterminators of the Jews was solidifed in Budapest and Vienna.
>> > >Kastner's duties were part and parcel of the genral duties of the S.S.

>> > >In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>> > >the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.

>> > >All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>> > >were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler". (ibid)

>> > >Judge Halevi continues:

>> > >"Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>> > >when he denied he had interceded in Becher's hehalf. Moreover, he concealed
>> > >the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>> > >Agency and the Jewish World Congress.

>> > >As to the contents of Kastner's affidavit, it was enough for the
>> > >defense to prove Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to
>> > >remove Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.

>> > >The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>> > >criminal.

>> > >The lies in the contents of Kastner's affidavit, the lies in his
>> > >testimony concerning the document, and Kastner's knowing participation in  the
>> > >activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last
>> > >minute fake rescue activities - all these combine to show one overwhelming
>> > >truth - that this affidavit was not given in good faith.

>> > >Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>> > >stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
>> > >declared in the affidavit.

>> > >The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>> > >but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
>> > >and no good faith in Kastner's testimony, 'I never doubted for one moment
>> > >the good intention of good Becher'.

>> > >It is clear that the positive recommandation by Kastner, not only in
>> > >his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>> > >World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>> > >exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
>> > >of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the
>> > >contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were
>> > >sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that there
>> > >was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal.
>> > >Kastner's affidavit in favor of Becher was a willfully false affidavit
>> > >given in favor of a war criminal to save him from trial and punishment
>> > >in Nuremberg.

>> > >Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>> > >accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>> > >his statements." (ibid)

>> > >Judge Halevi's verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>> > >libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproven
>> > >accusation - that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>> > >partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>> > >ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
>> > >pounds as court costs.

>> > >In fairness to Kastner it should me mentioned that as well as having
>> > >been unpaid, it was never established that he ever wore S.S. uniform.

>> > >Nevertheless, this verdict, and the evidence on which it was based,
>> > >completely establishes the truth of everything said on 3CR about the
>> > >matter.

>> > >If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>> > >individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>> > >attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>> > >pointed to much more than that.

>> > >But the story does not end there.






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Global Organized Crime Dominated by Jews

On 7 Sep 2006 11:51:39 -0700, in uk.politics.misc "Orac II"
 wrote:

Russia Takes Underworld to New Level

2006-09-06

Jewish mobsters enjoy safe haven in Israel

Not long ago there was only one Mafia to worry about. But lately guys
with names like "Guido" and "Joey" have been muscled off the most-
wanted list by other guys with names like "Vitaly" and "Slava."
Russian mobsters, as Robert I. Friedman shows in his timely new book,
Red Mafiya, aren't just copying their Italian counterparts. In many
ways, they're taking professional crime to a whole new level.

Consider violence. When the Italian mobsters get mad at somebody, it's
usually just the offending party who pays the price. Get on the wrong
side of the Russians, reports Friedman, and they'll wipe out your
whole family. And that's not the only way the two crime groups differ.
In key profit centers, such as bank fraud, Russians are scoring record
gains, but it's in the global arena where they're really beating the
competition.

Being international in outlook gives Russian mobsters an advantage in
drug sales, money laundering and the illegal trade of military
equipment. And being mostly Jewish gives them a safe haven in Israel
where many Russian Mafia types are citizens and thus immune from
extradition to the United States when the feds get after them.

As they did during Soviet times, crime and government function more or
less as one in post-communist Russia. Today, though, the same thing
may be happening in Israel, which, Friedman claims, is close to
becoming a wholly owned subsidiary of the Russian crime syndicates.
"With two decades of unimpeded growth the Russian Mafiya has succeeded
in turning Israel into its very own "mini-state,' in which it operates
with virtual impunity," he writes. Warns one international law
enforcement official quoted by Friedman: "Israel is going to have to
do something. They could lose their whole country."

Full article
http://www.sptimes.com/News/071600/Perspective/Russia_takes_underwor.shtml

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