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Dieser Krieg ist für Israel nicht zu gewinnen
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 09:11:14 -0600
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On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 00:12:50 +0000, in de.soc.politik.misc Norman
 wrote:

 "Dieser Krieg ist für Israel nicht zu gewinnen"

FDP-Außenexperte Wolfgang Gerhardt spricht sich für Einsatz einer
internationalen Friedenstruppe ohne Deutsche aus

Vom 31.07.2006
 
BERLIN Wolfgang Gerhardt, FDP-Außenexperte und Vorsitzender der
Friedrich-Naumann-Stiftung hält einen sofortigen Waffenstillstand für
dringend geboten. Es sei nicht länger zu leugnen, dass der Krieg im
Libanon zu viele zivile Opfer fordere. Herr Gerhardt, beim jüngsten
israelischen Angriff auf das libanesische Dorf Kana wurden auch 27
Kinder getötet. Der Nahost-Krieg eskaliert weiter. Wo bleibt der
internationale Druck in Richtung Waffenstillstand?

Gerhardt: Jeder weitere Kriegstag ist schrecklich. Je früher ein
Waffenstillstand zustande kommt, desto besser. Ohne eine umfassende
internationale Beteiligung werden die beiden Konfliktparteien zu keiner
friedlichen Lösung kommen. Dieser Krieg ist für Israel militärisch nicht
zu gewinnen. Es kann nur eine politische Lösung geben.

Israels Bombardement trifft nicht nur die Hisbollah-Stellungen, sondern
auch die Zivilbevölkerung.

Gerhardt: Israel macht es seinen Freunden manchmal wirklich sehr schwer.
Es lässt sich nicht länger leugnen, dass die zivilen Opfer leider sehr
sehr hoch sind. Jeder Tote ist ein Toter zu viel, egal auf welcher
Seite. Wir brauchen schnell eine internationale Lösung und den Einsatz
einer internationalen Friedenstruppe. Einen anderen Weg zum Frieden sehe
ich nicht.

Wie sollte das Mandat für die Truppe ausgestaltet werden?

Gerhardt: Es geht nur mit einem klaren und robusten Mandat der Vereinten
Nationen, dem die beiden Konfliktparteien zustimmen müssen. Eine
Friedenstruppe muss im Notfall auch militärische Mittel anwenden können.

Bundeskanzlerin Angela Merkel lehnt eine deutsche Beteiligung an einer
Nahost-Friedenstruppe ab. Sollte sich Deutschland aus historischen
Gründen zurückhalten?

Gerhardt: Wir sollten hier äußerst zurückhaltend sein. Da sind vor allem
die historischen Gründe. Es darf kein deutscher Soldat in die Situation
gebracht werden, dass er mit israelischen Soldaten oder
Hisbollah-Milizen in einen Konflikt kommt. Ich mag mir nicht vorstellen,
was in einem deutschen Soldaten in einer solchen Situation vorgeht.
Israel hätte sicher Verständnis dafür, wenn sich Deutschland nicht an
einer Friedenstruppe beteiligt. Alle Beteiligten müssen verstehen und
akzeptieren, dass deutsche Soldaten nicht entsandt werden sollten. Aber
es gibt viele Alternativen zur Hilfe.

Welchen Beitrag könnte Berlin leisten?

Gerhardt: Der Konflikt ist sehr vielschichtig. Das Leben der
Palästinenser in den Autonomie-Gebieten muss deutlich verbessert werden.
Die Menschen benötigen eine Perspektive. Hier gilt es, die
wirtschaftliche Lage zu verbessern. Auch im Libanon sollten wir beim
Wiederaufbau helfen.

Bisher sind alle Nahost-Friedenspläne gescheitert. Wie sollte ein neuer
Anlauf aussehen?

Gerhardt: Die USA haben offenbar vor dem Hintergrund des Irak-Krieges zu
wenig Aufmerksamkeit auf Israel und den Konflikt mit den Palästinensern
gelegt. Israel kann dauerhaft nur mit einer Zwei-Staaten-Lösung seine
Zukunft und den Frieden in der Region sichern.

Das Gespräch führte Andreas Herholz.

http://www.wiesbadener-kurier.de/politik/objekt.php3?artikel_id=2471045


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Subject: Din Moser: the Jewish Law of the Informer
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Din Moser: the Jewish Law of the Informer

On 7 May 2007 14:39:18 -0700, in uk.politics.misc Antigone
 wrote:

"din moser"

[This] law commands every Jew to kill or wound severely any Jew who,
without a decision of a competent rabbinical authority, has informed
non-Jews, especially non-Jewish authorities, about Jewish affairs or
who has given them information about Jewish property or who has
delivered Jewish persons or property to their rule or authority.  (p.
137)
----------------------------------------------------------------

The systematic killing of informers, enjoined by eminent rabbis as a
religious duty, has no parallel in other societies.  (p. 161)
----------------------------------------------------------------

[Comment: Actually it DOES! An objective, detached, study of the
tenets of Judaism allows only one logical conclusion. Judaism is NOT
a religion, it is a criminal conspiracy! The Jewish "religious" law of
the informer certainly has its parallels in other crime syndicates
such as the Mafia {La Cosa Nostra} ! -hengist]
----------------------------------------------------------------

Israel Shahak and Norton Mezvinsky, Jewish Fundamentalism in Israel,
Pluto Press, London and Sterling Virginia, 1999.


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Subject: Internet Hate-Speech Ban Called 'Chilling'
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Internet Hate-Speech Ban Called 'Chilling'
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 09:01:31 -0600
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On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 21:17:39 +1000, in alt.politics.nationalism.white
"Antimulticulture"  wrote:

Internet Hate-Speech Ban Called 'Chilling'
Council of Europe's Internet restrictions raise uneasy
questions about civil rights online.
Michelle Madigan
24th September, 2006

As European leaders move to ban Internet hate speech and seek support from
the United States, civil liberties groups charge that the proposal would
violate free-speech rights.

The Council of Europe--not to be confused with the European Union--comprises
44 European countries, plus a handful of non-European nations. Canada,
Japan, Mexico, South Africa, and the United States have observer status
only, but their comments are sought.

The council recently voted to outlaw "acts of a racist and xenophobic nature
conducted through computer systems." The measure was added to the Convention
on Cybercrime, criminalizing hacking, intellectual property violations, and
use of computers to commit fraud. The first set of rules was signed in
November 2001.

The non-European members are being asked to endorse the hate-speech
provision at a meeting in late January.

Broad Ban 'Terrifying'

The Justice Department has indicated it will not support the broader
restrictions because of concern that it is incompatible with First Amendment
rights to free speech.

The agreement defines racist and xenophobic material as "written material,
images or other representations of ideas or theories advocating, promoting
or inciting hatred, discrimination or violence against individuals or
groups, based on race, color, descent, or national or ethnic origin, or
religion."

[ed. 'Cept those "evil" Whites and Christians who get slagged off on a
daily basis by the "tolerant" left and the "religion of peace"...]

"It's a terrifying prospect," says James Gattuso, a research fellow for the
Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank. "It's inherently dangerous
for governments to define what appropriate speech is. You can't define or
limit speech without chilling speech."

The protocol is subject to interpretation, he notes. "If you have a cartoon
criticizing French foreign policy, would the French government have
recourse?" he asks. "I don't see anything that would exclude that."

The Electronic Privacy Information Center suspects that the protocol is
aimed at right-wing racist speech, says Sarah Andrews, EPIC's research
director. She thinks it targets white supremacist or antiabortion groups. A
separate proposal on revisionism would prohibit speech about Holocaust
denials, she notes.

But either ban is drastically contrary to the U.S. practice of protecting
even hate speech. For example, an antiabortion group ran a Web site called
the Nuremberg Files, which listed doctors who performed abortions. As
antiabortion activists killed these doctors, they were crossed out on the
Web site. Critics said the Web site incited violence, and a lower court
agreed; but upon appeal the Web site was declared to be protected by the
First Amendment. Under the Council of Europe protocol, the Web site would be
illegal, Andrews says.

"At the very extreme, historians or journalists writing about these people
or [about] Holocaust denials would be prohibited," says Andrews.
'Cultural Clash'

The Council of Europe's original Convention on Cybercrime in 2001 also
contained a hate-speech measure, but it was dropped at the last minute to
gain support from the United States, which signed the treaty along with 29
other countries. However, for the treaty to become reality, the members must
enact laws in their own countries.

[ed. What about asking the people?]

Nations have been slow to ratify the treaty, says Barry Steinhardt, director
of technology and liberty programs for the American Civil Liberties Union
and cofounder of the Global Internet Liberty Campaign. Only two Council of
Europe members--Albania and Croatia--have executed the treaty's provisions
>from one year ago.

Ratification in the U.S. requires action by the Senate, which has not
happened.

While few countries have taken action, civil liberties groups say the
protocol has a chilling effect and are tracking the Council of Europe's
actions.

"The U.S. has always maintained that they won't sign on to this protocol,
and it would be very shocking if they did so in the end," EPIC's Andrews
says.

If European countries find unacceptable material on an American-based Web
site, they cannot expect American courts to block access to the material
because it would be protected here by the First Amendment, says Paula
Bruening, staff counsel for the Center for Democracy & Technology.

"As disturbing as this kind of speech is, it is protected by the First
Amendment," Bruening says. "Our vision of the Internet is a free exchange of
ideas, but Europe takes a different approach. What we're seeing here is a
cultural clash."

[ed. Centrally planned tyranny, ban, ban, ban....]

Who's Responsible?

The treaty says Internet service providers would not be held responsible for
simply hosting a Web site or chat room containing hate speech.

However, if the Council of Europe member countries adopt laws that make it a
crime to distribute such material to the public through e-mail or Web sites,
this may negatively impact privacy and Internet use by Americans, say some
civil liberties groups.

The proposals would require governments to take invasive measures to
prosecute individuals, says the ACLU's Steinhardt. He says the United States
would have to cooperate in such a case.

American Internet service providers could potentially be forced to shut down
their interactive components because people may engage in speech that is
offensive in Europe, says Steinhardt.

Some members of the European parliament called for an "unlawful hosting"
provision that would have increased the liability of U.S. companies, says
Sarah Deutsch, vice president and associate general counsel for Verizon
Communications.

The Council of Europe rejected that proposal as problematic, but ISPs are
still concerned because Internet jurisdiction is largely unsettled, Deutsch
says.

Recurring Concerns

When French organizations brought Yahoo to court for allowing Nazi-oriented
auction items on its Web site, a French court said Yahoo was liable, but did
not enforce the judgment. A U.S. court said later that the ruling could not
be imposed in the United States.

Some U.S.-based Web sites have chosen to voluntarily block access to some
information in respect of other countries' laws, which also raises concerns
among civil liberties organizations.

But a Yahoo executive could be arrested when traveling in France because
that judgment still stands, says Deutsch. "Some countries hold you liable
because citizens can access your Web site," says Deutsch. "Countries need to
adopt a common set of principles."

[ed. I support the free exchange of ideas, on the internet and otherwise,
and reject utterly the idea of arbitrary "hate crimes" 'decreed' by any
elected or unelected body, without the full consent of the governed -
anything less is tyranny...]

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On 7 Sep 2006 11:51:39 -0700, in uk.politics.misc "Orac II"
 wrote:

Russia Takes Underworld to New Level

2006-09-06

Jewish mobsters enjoy safe haven in Israel

Not long ago there was only one Mafia to worry about. But lately guys
with names like "Guido" and "Joey" have been muscled off the most-
wanted list by other guys with names like "Vitaly" and "Slava."
Russian mobsters, as Robert I. Friedman shows in his timely new book,
Red Mafiya, aren't just copying their Italian counterparts. In many
ways, they're taking professional crime to a whole new level.

Consider violence. When the Italian mobsters get mad at somebody, it's
usually just the offending party who pays the price. Get on the wrong
side of the Russians, reports Friedman, and they'll wipe out your
whole family. And that's not the only way the two crime groups differ.
In key profit centers, such as bank fraud, Russians are scoring record
gains, but it's in the global arena where they're really beating the
competition.

Being international in outlook gives Russian mobsters an advantage in
drug sales, money laundering and the illegal trade of military
equipment. And being mostly Jewish gives them a safe haven in Israel
where many Russian Mafia types are citizens and thus immune from
extradition to the United States when the feds get after them.

As they did during Soviet times, crime and government function more or
less as one in post-communist Russia. Today, though, the same thing
may be happening in Israel, which, Friedman claims, is close to
becoming a wholly owned subsidiary of the Russian crime syndicates.
"With two decades of unimpeded growth the Russian Mafiya has succeeded
in turning Israel into its very own "mini-state,' in which it operates
with virtual impunity," he writes. Warns one international law
enforcement official quoted by Friedman: "Israel is going to have to
do something. They could lose their whole country."

Full article
http://www.sptimes.com/News/071600/Perspective/Russia_takes_underwor.shtml


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Israel will wieder mal in Deutschland regieren...
Immer die verfluechten Juden!

On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 14:03:15 +0200, in de.soc.politik.misc Andreas Gumtow
 wrote:

21. Oktober 2006
Stein dringt auf Initiative gegen Rechtsextreme

Israels Botschafter in Deutschland, Schimon Stein, hat an Politik und 
Gesellschaft appelliert, gemeinsam gegen den Rechtsradikalismus aktiv 
zu werden.
In der "Neuen Osnabrücker Zeitung" sagte Stein, es handele sich "nicht 
mehr um Randerscheinungen", wenn Rechtsradikale in die Landtage von 
Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, Brandenburg und Sachsen gewählt worden seien.
] N24

Wann geht Herr Stein denn nun gegen Liebermann vor? Der ist wesentlich 
extremer und sitzt nicht etwa "nur" in einem Landtag sondern in der 
Knesset. Welche extreme Partei, außer natürlich der linksextremen 
SED/PDS NAchfolgeorganisation "LINKE", sitzt im Bundestag? Oder ist 
das nicht so schlimm weil Liebermann und Co ja zu den "RICHTIGEN"(tm) 
gehört?

-- 
In der Politik ist es ähnlich wie im Pflegeheim...

Auch Politiker müssen öfter mal gewendet werden,
sonst lügen die sich durch.

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
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PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
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Israel will wieder mal in Deutschland regieren...
Immer die verfluechten Juden!

On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 14:03:15 +0200, in de.soc.politik.misc Andreas Gumtow
 wrote:

21. Oktober 2006
Stein dringt auf Initiative gegen Rechtsextreme

Israels Botschafter in Deutschland, Schimon Stein, hat an Politik und 
Gesellschaft appelliert, gemeinsam gegen den Rechtsradikalismus aktiv 
zu werden.
In der "Neuen Osnabrücker Zeitung" sagte Stein, es handele sich "nicht 
mehr um Randerscheinungen", wenn Rechtsradikale in die Landtage von 
Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, Brandenburg und Sachsen gewählt worden seien.
] N24

Wann geht Herr Stein denn nun gegen Liebermann vor? Der ist wesentlich 
extremer und sitzt nicht etwa "nur" in einem Landtag sondern in der 
Knesset. Welche extreme Partei, außer natürlich der linksextremen 
SED/PDS NAchfolgeorganisation "LINKE", sitzt im Bundestag? Oder ist 
das nicht so schlimm weil Liebermann und Co ja zu den "RICHTIGEN"(tm) 
gehört?

-- 
In der Politik ist es ähnlich wie im Pflegeheim...

Auch Politiker müssen öfter mal gewendet werden,
sonst lügen die sich durch.

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
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Zionism And The Third Reich

On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 17:45:26 -0400, in alt.revisionism Gallows Cheater
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http://www.rense.com/general34/ZAND.HTM

Zionism And The Third Reich
By Mark Weber
Institute for Historical Review
2-8-3

Early in 1935, a passenger ship bound for Haifa in Palestine left the German
port of Bremerhaven. Its stern bore the Hebrew letters for its name, "Tel
Aviv," while a swastika banner fluttered from the mast. And although the
ship was Zionist-owned, its captain was a National Socialist Party member.
Many years later a traveler aboard the ship recalled this symbolic
combination as a "metaphysical absurdity."1 Absurd or not, this is but one
vignette from a little-known chapter of history: The wide-ranging
collaboration between Zionism and Hitler's Third Reich.
 
Common Aims
 
Over the years, people in many different countries have wrestled with
the "Jewish question": that is, what is the proper role of Jews in
non-Jewish society? During the 1930s, Jewish Zionists and German National
Socialists shared similar views on how to deal with this perplexing issue.
They agreed that Jews and Germans were distinctly different nationalities,
and that Jews did not belong in Germany. Jews living in the Reich were
therefore to be regarded not as "Germans of the Jewish faith," but rather
as members of a separate national community. Zionism (Jewish nationalism)
also implied an obligation by Zionist Jews to resettle in Palestine,
the "Jewish homeland." They could hardly regard themselves as sincere
Zionists and simultaneously claim equal rights in Germany or any
other "foreign" country.
 
Theodor Herzl (1860-1904), the founder of modern Zionism, maintained that
anti-Semitism is not an aberration, but a natural and completely
understandable response by non-Jews to alien Jewish behavior and attitudes.
The only solution, he argued, is for Jews to recognize reality and live in
a separate state of their own. "The Jewish question exists wherever Jews
live in noticeable numbers," he wrote in his most influential work, The
Jewish State. "Where it does not exist, it is brought in by arriving
Jews ... I believe I understand anti-Semitism, which is a very complex
phenomenon. I consider this development as a Jew, without hate or fear."
The Jewish question, he maintained, is not social or religious. "It is a
national question. To solve it we must, above all, make it an international
political issue ..." Regardless of their citizenship, Herzl insisted, Jews
constitute not merely a religious community, but a nationality, a people, a
Volk.2 Zionism, wrote Herzl, offered the world a welcome "final solution of
the Jewish question."3
 
Six months after Hitler came to power, the Zionist Federation of Germany (by
far the largest Zionist group in the country) submitted a detailed
memorandum to the new government that reviewed German-Jewish relations and
formally offered Zionist support in "solving" the vexing "Jewish question."
The first step, it suggested, had to be a frank recognition of fundamental
national differences: 4
 
Zionism has no illusions about the difficulty of the Jewish condition, which
consists above all in an abnormal occupational pattern and in the fault of
an intellectual and moral posture not rooted in one's own tradition.
Zionism recognized decades ago that as a result of the assimilationist
trend, symptoms of deterioration were bound to appear ...
 
Zionism believes that the rebirth of the national life of a people, which is
now occurring in Germany through the emphasis on its Christian and national
character, must also come about in the Jewish national group. For the
Jewish people, too, national origin, religion, common destiny and a sense
of its uniqueness must be of decisive importance in the shaping of its
existence. This means that the egotistical individualism of the liberal era
must be overcome and replaced with a sense of community and collective
responsibility ...
 
We believe it is precisely the new [National Socialist] Germany that can,
through bold resoluteness in the handling of the Jewish question, take a
decisive step toward overcoming a problem which, in truth, will have to be
dealt with by most European peoples ...
 
Our acknowledgment of Jewish nationality provides for a clear and sincere
relationship to the German people and its national and racial realities.
Precisely because we do not wish to falsify these fundamentals, because we,
too, are against mixed marriage and are for maintaining the purity of the
Jewish group and reject any trespasses in the cultural domain, we -- having
been brought up in the German language and German culture -- can show an
interest in the works and values of German culture with admiration and
internal sympathy ...
 
For its practical aims, Zionism hopes to be able to win the collaboration of
even a government fundamentally hostile to Jews, because in dealing with
the Jewish question not sentimentalities are involved but a real problem
whose solution interests all peoples and at the present moment especially
the German people ... Boycott propaganda -- such as is currently being
carried on against Germany in many ways -- is in essence un-Zionist,
because Zionism wants not to do battle but to convince and to build ...
 
We are not blind to the fact that a Jewish question exists and will continue
to exist. From the abnormal situation of the Jews severe disadvantages
result for them, but also scarcely tolerable conditions for other peoples.
The Federation's paper, the Jüdische Rundschau ("Jewish Review"),
proclaimed the same message: "Zionism recognizes the existence of a Jewish
problem and desires a far-reaching and constructive solution. For this
purpose Zionism wishes to obtain the assistance of all peoples, whether
pro- or anti-Jewish, because, in its view, we are dealing here with a
concrete rather than a sentimental problem, the solution of which all
peoples are interested."5 A young Berlin rabbi, Joachim Prinz, who later
settled in the United States and became head of the American Jewish
Congress, wrote in his 1934 book, Wir Juden ("We Jews"), that the National
Socialist revolution in Germany meant "Jewry for the Jews." He
explained: "No subterfuge can save us now. In place of assimilation we
desire a new concept: recognition of the Jewish nation and Jewish race." 6
 
Active Collaboration
 
On this basis of their similar ideologies about ethnicity and nationhood,
National Socialists and Zionists worked together for what each group
believed was in its own national interest. As a result, the Hitler
government vigorously supported Zionism and Jewish emigration to Palestine
>from 1933 until 1940-1941, when the Second World War prevented extensive
collaboration.
 
Even as the Third Reich became more entrenched, many German Jews, probably a
majority, continued to regard themselves, often with considerable pride, as
Germans first. Few were enthusiastic about pulling up roots to begin a new
life in far-away Palestine. Nevertheless, more and more German Jews turned
to Zionism during this period. Until late 1938, the Zionist movement
flourished in Germany under Hitler. The circulation of the Zionist
Federation's bi-weekly Jüdische Rundschau grew enormously. Numerous Zionist
books were published. "Zionist work was in full swing" in Germany during
those years, the Encyclopaedia Judaica notes. A Zionist convention held in
Berlin in 1936 reflected "in its composition the vigorous party life of
German Zionists."7
 
The SS was particularly enthusiastic in its support for Zionism. An internal
June 1934 SS position paper urged active and wide-ranging support for
Zionism by the government and the Party as the best way to encourage
emigration of Germany's Jews to Palestine. This would require increased
Jewish self-awareness. Jewish schools, Jewish sports leagues, Jewish
cultural organizations -- in short, everything that would encourage this
new consciousness and self-awareness - should be promoted, the paper
recommended.8
 
SS officer Leopold von Mildenstein and Zionist Federation official Kurt
Tuchler toured Palestine together for six months to assess Zionist
development there. Based on his firsthand observations, von Mildenstein
wrote a series of twelve illustrated articles for the important Berlin
daily Der Angriff that appeared in late 1934 under the heading "A Nazi
Travels to Palestine." The series expressed great admiration for the
pioneering spirit and achievements of the Jewish settlers. Zionist
self-development, von Mildenstein wrote, had produced a new kind of Jew. He
praised Zionism as a great benefit for both the Jewish people and the
entire world. A Jewish homeland in Palestine, he wrote in his concluding
article, "pointed the way to curing a centuries-long wound on the body of
the world: the Jewish question." Der Angriff issued a special medal, with a
Swastika on one side and a Star of David on the other, to commemorate the
joint SS-Zionist visit. A few months after the articles appeared, von
Mildenstein was promoted to head the Jewish affairs department of the SS
security service in order to support Zionist migration and development more
effectively. 9
 
The official SS newspaper, Das Schwarze Korps, proclaimed its support for
Zionism in a May 1935 front-page editorial: "The time may not be too far
off when Palestine will again be able to receive its sons who have been
lost to it for more than a thousand years. Our good wishes, together with
official goodwill, go with them."10 Four months later, a similar article
appeared in the SS paper: 11
 
The recognition of Jewry as a racial community based on blood and not on
religion leads the German government to guarantee without reservation the
racial separateness of this community. The government finds itself in
complete agreement with the great spiritual movement within Jewry, the
so-called Zionism, with its recognition of the solidarity of Jewry around
the world and its rejection of all assimilationist notions. On this basis,
Germany undertakes measures that will surely play a significant role in the
future in the handling of the Jewish problem around the world.
 
A leading German shipping line began direct passenger liner service from
Hamburg to Haifa, Palestine, in October 1933 providing "strictly kosher
food on its ships, under the supervision of the Hamburg rabbinate." 12 With
official backing, Zionists worked tirelessly to "reeducate" Germany's Jews.
As American historian Francis Nicosia put it in his 1985 survey, The Third
Reich and the Palestine Question: "Zionists were encouraged to take their
message to the Jewish community, to collect money, to show films on
Palestine and generally to educate German Jews about Palestine. There was
considerable pressure to teach Jews in Germany to cease identifying
themselves as Germans and to awaken a new Jewish national identity in
them." 13
 
In an interview after the war, the former head of the Zionist Federation of
Germany, Dr. Hans Friedenthal, summed up the situation: "The Gestapo did
everything in those days to promote emigration, particularly to Palestine.
We often received their help when we required anything from other
authorities regarding preparations for emigration." 14
 
At the September 1935 National Socialist Party Congress, the Reichstag
adopted the so-called "Nuremberg laws" that prohibited marriages and sexual
relations between Jews and Germans and, in effect, proclaimed the Jews an
alien minority nationality. A few days later the Zionist Jüdische Rundschau
editorially welcomed the new measures: 15
 
Germany ... is meeting the demands of the World Zionist Congress when it
declares the Jews now living in Germany to be a national minority. Once the
Jews have been stamped a national minority it is again possible to
establish normal relations between the German nation and Jewry. The new
laws give the Jewish minority in Germany its own cultural life, its own
national life. In future it will be able to shape its own schools, its own
theatre, and its own sports associations. In short, it can create its own
future in all aspects of national life ...
 
Germany has given the Jewish minority the opportunity to live for itself,
and is offering state protection for this separate life of the Jewish
minority: Jewry's process of growth into a nation will thereby be
encouraged and a contribution will be made to the establishment of more
tolerable relations between the two nations. Georg Kareski, the head of
both the "Revisionist" Zionist State Organization and the Jewish Cultural
League, and former head of the Berlin Jewish Community, declared in an
interview with the Berlin daily Der Angriff at the end of 1935: 16
 
For many years I have regarded a complete separation of the cultural affairs
of the two peoples [Jews and Germans] as a pre-condition for living
together without conflict... I have long supported such a separation,
provided it is founded on respect for the alien nationality. The Nuremberg
Laws ... seem to me, apart from their legal provisions, to conform entirely
with this desire for a separate life based on mutual respect... This
interruption of the process of dissolution in many Jewish communities,
which had been promoted through mixed marriages, is therefore, from a
Jewish point of view, entirely welcome.
 
Zionist leaders in other countries echoed these views. Stephen S. Wise,
president of the American Jewish Congress and the World Jewish Congress,
told a New York rally in June 1938: "I am not an American citizen of the
Jewish faith, I am a Jew... Hitler was right in one thing. He calls the
Jewish people a race and we are a race." 17 The Interior Ministry's Jewish
affairs specialist, Dr. Bernhard Lösener, expressed support for Zionism in
an article that appeared in a November 1935 issue of the official
Reichsverwaltungsblatt: 18
 
If the Jews already had their own state in which the majority of them were
settled, then the Jewish question could be regarded as completely resolved
today, also for the Jews themselves. The least amount of opposition to the
ideas underlying the Nuremberg Laws have been shown by the Zionists,
because they realize at once that these laws represent the only correct
solution for the Jewish people as well. For each nation must have its own
state as the outward expression of its particular nationhood.
 
In cooperation with the German authorities, Zionist groups organized a
network of some forty camps and agricultural centers throughout Germany
where prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine.
Although the Nuremberg Laws forbid Jews from displaying the German flag,
Jews were specifically guaranteed the right to display the blue and white
Jewish national banner. The flag that would one day be adopted by Israel
was flown at the Zionist camps and centers in Hitler's Germany. 19
 
Himmler's security service cooperated with the Haganah, the Zionist
underground military organization in Palestine. The SS agency paid Haganah
official Feivel Polkes for information about the situation in Palestine and
for help in directing Jewish emigration to that country. Meanwhile, the
Haganah was kept well informed about German plans by a spy it managed to
plant in the Berlin headquarters of the SS.20 Haganah-SS collaboration even
included secret deliveries of German weapons to Jewish settlers for use in
clashes with Palestinian Arabs. 21 In the aftermath of the November
1938 "Kristallnacht" outburst of violence and destruction, the SS quickly
helped the Zionist organization to get back on its feet and continue its
work in Germany, although now under more restricted supervision. 22
 
Official Reservations
 
German support for Zionism was not unlimited. Government and Party officials
were very mindful of the continuing campaign by powerful Jewish communities
in the United States, Britain and other countries to mobilize "their"
governments and fellow citizens against Germany. As long as world Jewry
remained implacably hostile toward National Socialist Germany, and as long
as the great majority of Jews around the world showed little eagerness to
resettle in the Zionist "promised land," a sovereign Jewish state in
Palestine would not really "solve" the international Jewish question.
Instead, German officials reasoned, it would immeasurably strengthen this
dangerous anti-German campaign. German backing for Zionism was therefore
limited to support for a Jewish homeland in Palestine under British
control, not a sovereign Jewish state. 23
 
A Jewish state in Palestine, the Foreign Minister informed diplomats in June
1937, would not be in Germany's interest because it would not be able to
absorb all Jews around the world, but would only serve as an additional
power base for international Jewry, in much the same way as Moscow served
as a base for international Communism.24 Reflecting something of a shift in
official policy, the German press expressed much greater sympathy in 1937
for Palestinian Arab resistance to Zionist ambitions, at a time when
tension and conflict between Jews and Arabs in Palestine was sharply
increasing. 25
 
A Foreign Office circular bulletin of June 22, 1937, cautioned that in spite
of support for Jewish settlement in Palestine, "it would nevertheless be a
mistake to assume that Germany supports the formation of a state structure
in Palestine under some form of Jewish control. In view of the anti-German
agitation of international Jewry, Germany cannot agree that the formation
of a Palestine Jewish state would help the peaceful development of the
nations of the world."26 "The proclamation of a Jewish state or a
Jewish-administrated Palestine," warned an internal memorandum by the
Jewish affairs section of the SS, "would create for Germany a new enemy,
one that would have a deep influence on developments in the Near East."
Another SS agency predicted that a Jewish state "would work to bring
special minority protection to Jews in every country, therefore giving
legal protection to the exploitation activity of world Jewry."27 In January
1939, Hitler's new Foreign Minister, Joachim von Ribbentrop, likewise
warned in another circular bulletin that "Germany must regard the formation
of a Jewish state as dangerous" because it "would bring an international
increase in power to world Jewry." 28
 
Hitler himself personally reviewed this entire issue in early 1938 and, in
spite of his long-standing skepticism of Zionist ambitions and misgivings
that his policies might contribute to the formation of a Jewish state,
decided to support Jewish migration to Palestine even more vigorously. The
prospect of ridding Germany of its Jews, he concluded, outweighed the
possible dangers. 29
 
Meanwhile, the British government imposed ever more drastic restrictions on
Jewish immigration into Palestine in 1937, 1938 and 1939. In response, the
SS security service concluded a secret alliance with the clandestine
Zionist agency Mossad le-Aliya Bet to smuggle Jews illegally into
Palestine. As a result of this intensive collaboration, several convoys of
ships succeeded in reaching Palestine past British gunboats. Jewish
migration, both legal and illegal, from Germany (including Austria) to
Palestine increased dramatically in 1938 and 1939. Another 10,000 Jews were
scheduled to depart in October 1939, but the outbreak of war in September
brought the effort to an end. All the same, German authorities continued to
promote indirect Jewish emigration to Palestine during 1940 and 1941. 30
Even as late as March 1942, at least one officially authorized
Zionist "kibbutz" training camp for potential emigrants continued to
operate in Hitler's Germany. 31
 
The Transfer Agreement
 
The centerpiece of German-Zionist cooperation during the Hitler era was the
Transfer Agreement, a pact that enabled tens of thousands of German Jews to
migrate to Palestine with their wealth. The Agreement, also known as the
Haavara (Hebrew for "transfer"), was concluded in August 1933 following
talks between German officials and Chaim Arlosoroff, Political Secretary of
the Jewish Agency, the Palestine center of the World Zionist Organization.
32
 
Through this unusual arrangement, each Jew bound for Palestine deposited
money in a special account in Germany. The money was used to purchase
German-made agricultural tools, building materials, pumps, fertilizer, and
so forth, which were exported to Palestine and sold there by the
Jewish-owned Haavara company in Tel-Aviv. Money from the sales was given to
the Jewish emigrant upon his arrival in Palestine in an amount
corresponding to his deposit in Germany. German goods poured into Palestine
through the Haavara, which was supplemented a short time later with a
barter agreement by which Palestine oranges were exchanged for German
timber, automobiles, agricultural machinery, and other goods. The Agreement
thus served the Zionist aim of bringing Jewish settlers and development
capital to Palestine, while simultaneously serving the German goal of
freeing the country of an unwanted alien group.
 
Delegates at the 1933 Zionist Congress in Prague vigorously debated the
merits of the Agreement. Some feared that the pact would undermine the
international Jewish economic boycott against Germany. But Zionist
officials reassured the Congress. Sam Cohen, a key figure behind the
Haavara arrangement, stressed that the Agreement was not economically
advantageous to Germany. Arthur Ruppin, a Zionist Organization emigration
specialist who had helped negotiate the pact, pointed out that "the
Transfer Agreement in no way interfered with the boycott movement, since no
new currency will flow into Germany as a result of the agreement..." 33 The
1935 Zionist Congress, meeting in Switzerland, overwhelmingly endorsed the
pact. In 1936, the Jewish Agency (the Zionist "shadow government" in
Palestine) took over direct control of the Ha'avara, which remained in
effect until the Second World War forced its abandonment.
 
Some German officials opposed the arrangement. Germany's Consul General in
Jerusalem, Hans Döhle, for example, sharply criticized the Agreement on
several occasions during 1937. He pointed out that it cost Germany the
foreign exchange that the products exported to Palestine through the pact
would bring if sold elsewhere. The Haavara monopoly sale of German goods to
Palestine through a Jewish agency naturally angered German businessmen and
Arabs there. Official German support for Zionism could lead to a loss of
German markets throughout the Arab world. The British government also
resented the arrangement.34 A June 1937 German Foreign Office internal
bulletin referred to the "foreign exchange sacrifices" that resulted from
the Haavara. 35
 
A December 1937 internal memorandum by the German Interior Ministry reviewed
the impact of the Transfer Agreement: "There is no doubt that the Haavara
arrangement has contributed most significantly to the very rapid
development of Palestine since 1933. The Agreement provided not only the
largest source of money (from Germany!), but also the most intelligent
group of immigrants, a nd finally it brought to the country the machines
and industrial products essential for development." The main advantage of
the pact, the memo reported, was the emigration of large numbers of Jews to
Palestine, the most desirable target country as far as Germany was
concerned. But the paper also noted the important drawbacks pointed out by
Consul Döhle and others. The Interior Minister, it went on, had concluded
that the disadvantages of the agreement now outweighed the advantages and
that, therefore, it should be terminated. 36
 
Only one man could resolve the controversy. Hitler personally reviewed the
policy in July and September 1937, and again in January 1938, and each time
decided to maintain the Haavara arrangement. The goal of removing Jews from
Germany, he concluded, justified the drawbacks. 37
 
The Reich Economics Ministry helped to organize another transfer company,
the International Trade and Investment Agency, or Intria, through which
Jews in foreign countries could help German Jews emigrate to Palestine.
Almost $900,000 was eventually channeled through the Intria to German Jews
in Palestine.38 Other European countries eager to encourage Jewish
emigration concluded agreements with the Zionists modeled after the
Ha'avara. In 1937 Poland authorized the Halifin (Hebrew for "exchange")
transfer company. By late summer 1939, Czechoslovakia, Romania, Hungary and
Italy had signed similar arrangements. The outbreak of war in September
1939, however, prevented large-scale implementation of these agreements. 39
 


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Holocaust: neue Klagen gegen BRD

On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 20:09:09 +0200, in de.soc.politik.misc Malte Messmann
 wrote:
Frank Bügel schrieb:
> Kinder von Holocaust-Überlebenden wollen auf Zahlungen klagen
> Anwalt: Leiden der "zweiten Generation" müssten anerkannt werden

> Tel Aviv (APA/dpa) - Kinder israelischer Holocaust-Überlebender wollen vor
> einem israelischen Gericht auf Zahlungen aus Deutschland klagen. Ein
> entsprechender Antrag solle am Sonntag vor dem Bezirksgericht in Tel Aviv
> eingereicht werden, berichtete die israelische Tageszeitung "Haaretz" am
> Freitag. Die Leiden der "zweiten Generation" müssten anerkannt werden, wird
> ein Rechtsanwalt zitiert. Bisher hätten sich 3.000 Israelis der Initiative
> angeschlossen.

> Die Kläger wollen dem Zeitungsbericht zufolge erreichen, dass die deutsche
> Regierung die Kosten für Therapien übernimmt, die das Leid der zweiten
> Generation lindern. In der Klageschrift würden die Fälle von fünf Frauen
> genannt, deren Eltern den Holocaust überlebt haben. Die Töchter litten
> heute unter Angstzuständen und Depressionen.

> In der Klageschrift werde der Fall einer 55-jährigen Klägerin genannt, die
> nicht mit Bussen fahren könne, weil sie dies an Züge erinnere, in denen
> Juden in Vernichtungslager gefahren wurden. Eine andere Frau habe starke
> Angst vor Hunden. 

> "Sowohl die Erfahrungen der zweiten Generation und Studien zeigen, dass das
> Trauma zwischen den Generationen übertragen wurde (...), zitiert die
> Zeitung aus der Klageschrift. Die geplante Klage wird als bisher
> beispiellos bezeichnet. (IKG Wien, 13.07.2007)
> http://www.ikg-wien.at/IKG/Members/irene/1104751983285/1184329903905?portal_skin=News&id=1184329903905

> Ist eigentlich ein Urteil eines israelischen Gerichts für die BRD bindend?
> Was haltet Ihr von dieser "beispiellosen" Klage?

> Frank

Die Juden haben über 60 Jahre nach Kriegsende einen an der Waffel, 
scheint auch ein Folgeschaden zu sein. Wenn sie Geld brauchen  sollen 
sie arbeiten, wenn sie zum schachern, was sie am besten können, zu blöd 
sind.

Malte


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From: "Salah Jafar" 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,soc.culture.german,soc.culture.israel,
soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.lebanon
Subject: Jews attacked Polish priest

      Stir over priest's 'anti-Semitic remarks'
      The BBC's Adam Easton reports on the growing row over alleged 
anti-Semitic remarks made by the controversial head of a religious radio 
station in Poland.


      Father Tadeusz Rydzyk, 62, allegedly called the Polish president, Lech 
Kaczynski, a "swindler" who had bowed to pressure from the Jewish lobby to 
compensate people for property lost during and after World War II.

      The comments came to light last week after the weekly magazine, 
Wprost, published excerpts and subsequently a tape, from a private lecture 
it said the priest gave to students at his media centre in Torun, northern 
Poland.

      In it, Fr Rydzyk, reportedly criticises Mr Kaczynski for his 
subservience to the Jewish lobby.

      "You know that it's about giving $65bn," to the Jews, he allegedly 
said. "They will come to you and say 'give me your coat. Take off your 
pants. Give me your shoes'," the magazine reported.

      The Simon Wiesenthal Center - an international Jewish human rights 
organisation - strongly rebuked the comments.

      "This is outrageous, a [Nazi propaganda minister] Josef Goebbels in a 
collar," said Rabbi Marvin Hier of the Center.

      Israel's ambassador to Poland, David Peleg, said Fr Rydzyk's comments 
were damaging Polish-Israeli relations.

      "The tapes that have come to light are evidence that Rydzyk and his 
institutions are anti-Semitic and something must be done in the name of good 
Polish-Israeli relations," he said in an interview with Poland's Gazeta 
Wyborcza newspaper.

      Influential

      Fr Rydzyk, a priest from the Redemptorist order, has regularly courted 
controversy since he launched Radio Maryja in 1991.

      With a blend of chat, music and religious services, the station styles 
itself as the "Catholic Voice in Your Home" and attracts many listeners in 
rural and poorer areas.

      But critics say it promotes xenophobic, ultra-Catholic, and at times, 
anti-Semitic views.

      Fr Rydzyk has since gone on to create something of a media empire, 
including the Trwam television station, the newspaper Nasz Dziennik, and a 
journalism college in his headquarters in Torun.

      Figures suggest Radio Maryja is steadily losing listeners with the 
station now attracting just over a million people or around two per cent of 
the daily audience.

      But Fr Rydzyk's political influence has never been higher. In 2005, he 
urged his listeners to vote for the Law and Justice party, headed by Mr 
Kaczynski's twin brother, Jaroslaw.

      The party won the elections and subsequently its members have become 
regular guests on both the radio and TV stations.

      Last weekend, for the first time ever, a prime minister appeared at 
Radio Maryja's annual pilgrimage.

      Addressing the crowd of around 150,000 people, Jaroslaw Kaczynski told 
them: "Here is Poland."

      A day later, the magazine, Wprost, published its story.

      Apart from the alleged anti-Semitic remarks, it also claimed Fr Rydzyk 
called President Kaczynski's wife a "witch" for her supposed support of 
limited abortion rights.

      "You witch! I'll let you have it. If you want to kill people, do it to 
yourself first," he reportedly said.

      Leaders reticent

      Fr Rydzyk has suggested the tapes were doctored and called the story 
"fictitious".

      The magazine says the authenticity of the tapes is beyond doubt.

      Poland's Senate Speaker, Bogdan Borusewicz, has also been quoted as 
saying he believes the tapes to be genuine.

      Despite the alleged slur, both Lech and Jaroslaw Kaczynski have 
refused to condemn the priest.

      If the tape is verified as being Fr Rydzyk, then he should apologise, 
they said.

      Many commentators here believe the twins may be reluctant to move 
against him.

      The priest has the ability to carry perhaps more than a million votes 
to their side come new elections.

      However, Mr Peleg is hopeful action will be taken.

      "I also expected the Polish government and president would have 
reacted at once in a decisive way to Rydzyk's anti-Semitism. And although a 
few days have passed, I think this reaction will be forthcoming," he told 
Gazeta Wyborcza.

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On 3 Aug 2006 14:22:20 -0700, in can.politics "Listen to Goyfire Radio"
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In Germany  people are fed up with the HOLOHOAX.
Immer die verfluechte Juden!

On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 19:14:17 GMT, "princeandy"  wrote:
>"Harry Mazal"  wrote in message
>news:pmag325c0voafsvq7dtt25ii399gg8s7dj@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:01:42 -0500, in alt.politics.nationalism.white
>Tommy
>>  wrote:

>> Friday, January 07, 2005

>> According to a new poll, 62% of Germans are tired of hearing about the three
>> hundred thousand Jews killed during the Second World War, while 52% believe
>> that Israel's treatment of the Palestinians is not fundamentally different
>> from the Nazis' treatment of Jews.

>Well for a start why dont you mention the greatest helpers the nazis had?

>Without Jewish co operation through the zionists the Germans would never
>have had the resources to herd the Jews into the various camps. And the
>zionists made it impossible for the underground to trust the jews.
>Like elsewhere, the only people who had the information and the ear of the
>frightened Jewish population were the Judenrat. In this case the Judenrat
>comprised mainly the Zionist Federation members. Without their help the SS,
>with 19 officers and less than 90 men, plus a few hundred Hungarian police,
>could not have collected and controlled a million Jews, when they did not
>even know their whereabouts. Kastner and the others were left under no
>illusions. Eichmann told Joel Brand, one of the members of Kastner's
>committee, that he intended to send all Hungary's Jews to Auschwitz, before
>he even started the expulsions! He told them clearly that all these Jews
>will die, 12,000 a day, unless certain conditions were met.

>http://www.geocities.com/chabaan_2000/safad.HTM
>Is The same authors also describe co-operation between Zionist leaders and
>Eichmann. It is interesting to note that the extreme right-wing revisionists
>only chose wealthy Jews for emigration, whereas other Zionists insisted on
>taking only young and healthy Jews. Eichmann helped them to carry out these
>plans, in return for which the Zionist Organization paid large sums to the
>Nazis. As Kimche says about the Zionist delegates in Germany: They had not
>come to Germany to save Jews. That was not their job. When the Nazis began
>the systematic murder of Jews in 1941, the Zionists decided neither to
>support Jewish resistance in Europe, nor to attack the Nazis, nor to say
>anything about the mass liquidation of their fellow Jews. Their sole purpose
>was to save certain selected Jews as future settlers in Palestine. They were
>not interested in Jews who wished to stay in their home countries and fight
>the Nazis.

>> Around the world, museums, monuments and educational curricula testify to
>> the truth of the Nazi genocide. For survivors, contemporary society's
>> embrace of their painful legacy has provided a measure of solace. But that
>> solace is eroding in the face of twin threats: organized movements that seek
>> to prove the Holocaust did not exist or, failing that, to strip away its
>> Jewish character.

>Well the jewish character seemsas always to to find monetary gain enough. We
>have them reviling and complaining about all things anti semitic , putting
>men in jail if they mention the holocaust. And it all appears to be to
>protect their beloved leaders the zionists who having done such a good job
>in convincing European jews to wlk unresisting into nazi camps putting there
>families at the mercy of paedophiles and rapists, medical experimentation
>and anything else the nazis felt they wanted to do.

>They are now protecting their zionist leaders by pumping up the death toll
>so the poor embarrassed cleverest portions of our populations can keep
>hiding from their horrendous mistake/s.

>http://666ismoney.com/HolocaustAds.html
>I, Raquel Baranow am a Grad Student of Holocaust Denial. There are persons
>with PhD's in various fields who also deny the 6 million canard. The best evidence is forensic. 
>Until recently, there was never a forensic  examination of the alleged murder weapon (gas chambers). 
>Demographic figures are incomplete. After the fall of East Europe to communism, many of the millions 
>of Jews who fled Poland into the Soviet Union or ended up behind the Iron Curtain changed their names 
>to assimilate, many civilians died in the war, many died in the concentration camps of louse-born typhus. 
>During World War One, two million civilians in the Soviet Union died of typhus. Many died in Stalin's gulags.
>Yad Vashem,( http://www.yadvashem.org/wps/portal/IY_HON_Welcome)a Holocaust
>Documentation Center in Israel has a database of  3,000,000 alleged victims of  Nazi
>extermination. But as you can see HERE
>(http://666ismoney.com/YadVashem.html) (my maiden name, Friedemann), nearly
>every name is listed at least twice, some as many as five times!

>Yad Vashem's 3,000,000 "Holocaust victims" database lists nearly
>everyone twice. Some as many at five times. Anyone, including
>you can submit a "Page of Testimony".

>Name                                  Town          District          Region
>Country          Bday          Source

>Friedemann Adolf        Berlin         Berlin         Berlin         Germany
>1879         list of victims from Germany
>Friedemann Adolf        Berlin         Berlin         Berlin         Germany
>1879         list of deportation from Berlin
>Friedemann Adolf        Berlin         Berlin         Berlin         Germany
>1905         list of deportation from Berlin

>It is forensically impractical or impossible to exterminate millions with
>louse disinfestant (hydrogen cyanide gas) or diesel exhaust as alleged by malicious
>"witnesses" or tortured confessors. There are no written orders for
>extermination. Aerial reconnaissance photographs of the concentration camps
>show no smoke and flames belching from the crematoria and pyres as alleged. 
>The photos and records show there was not enough coke or
>crematoria to cremate millions of corpses. The "witnesses" and confessors
>lied about how many minutes it takes to cremate a corpse. Diesel exhaust does not 
>contain significant amount of carbon monoxide to kill a human. If
>the Nazis wanted to kill millions they could have driven the coal fired
>train into a tunnel or quonset hut and gassed 'em with the exhaust from the 
>locomotive or used the exhaust from the crematoria. At Auschwitz, during a typhus
>epidemic, up to 300 people died per day, hence the crematoria, shaving of
>heads and requisitions for tons of Zyklon B louse disinfestant. HCN is a very 
>dangerous, impractical, messy method for extermination.
>http://www.vho.org/
>The Holocaust Controversy A Case for open Debate
>The Gas Chambers are a fraud, a tourist attraction, slander, demonizing,
>impractical/impossible, malicious atrocity propaganda spread by the communists, 
>who hated Hitler and perpetrated by Jews, who were always
>looking for ways to get to the lands of milk and money. The Jews have
>extorted billions from the US Treasury,
>Germany, Swiss banks and insurance companies on account of the Holohoax
>fraud. The Holohoax also makes those who fought Hitler feel like they did something 
>good fighting the demon, Hitler instead of letting Hitler take on Stalin alone.

>A "liberal" person has an open mind. A bigot is irrational and obstinate.

>> Of course, the revisionist "historians" and hatemongers who deny the
>> existence of the Holocaust, influential as they are in some marginal
>> circles, operate outside respectable discourse. But the same is not true of
>> those who seek to drain the Holocaust of its Jewish component. Imagine, if
>> you will, a Holocaust commemoration that Jews were not allowed to attend.
>> Oslo witnessed such an event on Nov. 9, the 66th anniversary of
>> Kristallnacht, the Third Reich's state-orchestrated pogrom against Germany's
>> Jews. Norwegian authorities, not wanting any trouble from Muslims, forbade
>> the display of Jewish symbols, including the Star of David and the Israeli
>> flag. The evening news showed a group of Jews who wanted to take part in the
>> commemoration being told by a policeman to "please leave the area."

>> The Oslo outrage echoed what occurred in 2000 when the Dutch Committee of
>> the Jewish Resistance cancelled a public event out of fear of disturbances
>> caused by Arab youths. While Amsterdam municipal authorities supported a
>> memorial meeting commemorating Kristallnacht, they insisted -- over the
>> objections of Jewish survivors -- that an Arab speaker could use the
>> occasion to attack Israel. In Belgium and France, meanwhile, teachers are
>> increasingly unwilling or unable to teach mandated sessions on the Holocaust
>> because of ugly disturbances by Arab students.

>> In Raoul Wallenberg's homeland, Sweden, a third of young people recently
>> polled were skeptical that the Holocaust really happened. Similar skepticism
>> was reported in Greek newspapers -- before, during, and after last year's
>> summer Olympics. And a recent report from the largest Dutch Jewish community
>> organization, the Ashkenazi Orthodox NIK, noted that "there is less and less
>> knowledge of the fact that six million Jews were murdered in the Second
>> World War," and raised the question "whether this is the natural result of
>> the passage of time, which leads to distance from the Holocaust, or whether
>> this is the result of government policy."

>> What's going on here is worthy of George Orwell: the theft of Holocaust
>> remembrance by revisionists and their unwitting allies. Increasingly,
>> Europeans decry genocide by reference to Rwanda and Sudan, while passing
>> over the even greater atrocity that took place on their own soil.

>> Among left-wing thinkers, the favoured recasting of Hitler's Final Solution
>> deflects the spotlight from the wartime destruction of European Jewry to the
>> postwar travails of the Palestinians. In this perversion, Israel --attacked
>> by the Arabs in five wars since its founding in 1948 and still under
>> constant terrorist barrage -- is no longer the haven for Hitler's Survivors,
>> but the perpetrator of "ethnic cleansing," "apartheid" and abundant other
>> slanders. Meanwhile, the atrocities committed by Arab suicide bombers are
>> passed over lightly as the desperate acts of "militants" driven to rage by
>> Israeli cruelty. While it is still fashionable for European leaders to shed
>> a tear for the victims of Auschwitz, they are dry-eyed when it comes to the
>> mass murders of those victims' offspring.

>> Just days before 9/11, the United Nations' World Conference Against Racism
>> in Durban, South Africa, showed how the global human rights agenda could be
>> hijacked by bigots. The only panel on the four-day program dealing with
>> anti-semitism was disrupted by pro-Palestinian zealots who insisted that
>> "anti-semitism" be redefined as "anti-Arab sentiment" because Arabs -- not
>> Jews -- are "the real Semites." It is a common theme in the Muslim world. In
>> the United Arab Emirates, the executive director of an Arab think-tank
>> recently explained that Israel has no right to exist because Jews "have
>> nothing to do with Semitism or Palestine."

>> Where Jews are concerned, the 21st century is witnessing the emergence of an
>> unholy alliance between Muslim extremists and left-wing fellow travellers. A
>> recent report by the European Monitoring Centre on Racism and Xenophobia,
>> initially suppressed by the EU, documented the trend that recycles Jew
>> hatred from Europe to the Mideast and back again -- finding its greatest
>> echo among disaffected Muslim youth across the continent. As an antidote,
>> the report recommended that "the governments of the EU Member States should
>> undertake initiatives ... to mobilise the support of political and social
>> leaders to foster Holocaust education, remembrance and research."

>> But if what happened on Nov. 9 in Oslo is any indication, Holocaust
>> "remembrance" is being compromised by the very disease it seeks to cure.
>> Left unchecked, this new pathology could pave the way for a yet another dark
>> chapter in the relationship between Europe and the Jewish people.

>> Rabbi Abraham Cooper is associate dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center. Dr.
>> Harold Brackman is a historian and consultant to the Center.

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Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
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"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
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but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
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they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

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acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
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JEW-WATCH:
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Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
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    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

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In Germany  people are fed up with the HOLOHOAX.
Immer die verfluechte Juden!

On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 19:14:17 GMT, "princeandy"  wrote:
>"Harry Mazal"  wrote in message
>news:pmag325c0voafsvq7dtt25ii399gg8s7dj@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:01:42 -0500, in alt.politics.nationalism.white
>Tommy
>>  wrote:

>> Friday, January 07, 2005

>> According to a new poll, 62% of Germans are tired of hearing about the three
>> hundred thousand Jews killed during the Second World War, while 52% believe
>> that Israel's treatment of the Palestinians is not fundamentally different
>> from the Nazis' treatment of Jews.

>Well for a start why dont you mention the greatest helpers the nazis had?

>Without Jewish co operation through the zionists the Germans would never
>have had the resources to herd the Jews into the various camps. And the
>zionists made it impossible for the underground to trust the jews.
>Like elsewhere, the only people who had the information and the ear of the
>frightened Jewish population were the Judenrat. In this case the Judenrat
>comprised mainly the Zionist Federation members. Without their help the SS,
>with 19 officers and less than 90 men, plus a few hundred Hungarian police,
>could not have collected and controlled a million Jews, when they did not
>even know their whereabouts. Kastner and the others were left under no
>illusions. Eichmann told Joel Brand, one of the members of Kastner's
>committee, that he intended to send all Hungary's Jews to Auschwitz, before
>he even started the expulsions! He told them clearly that all these Jews
>will die, 12,000 a day, unless certain conditions were met.

>http://www.geocities.com/chabaan_2000/safad.HTM
>Is The same authors also describe co-operation between Zionist leaders and
>Eichmann. It is interesting to note that the extreme right-wing revisionists
>only chose wealthy Jews for emigration, whereas other Zionists insisted on
>taking only young and healthy Jews. Eichmann helped them to carry out these
>plans, in return for which the Zionist Organization paid large sums to the
>Nazis. As Kimche says about the Zionist delegates in Germany: They had not
>come to Germany to save Jews. That was not their job. When the Nazis began
>the systematic murder of Jews in 1941, the Zionists decided neither to
>support Jewish resistance in Europe, nor to attack the Nazis, nor to say
>anything about the mass liquidation of their fellow Jews. Their sole purpose
>was to save certain selected Jews as future settlers in Palestine. They were
>not interested in Jews who wished to stay in their home countries and fight
>the Nazis.

>> Around the world, museums, monuments and educational curricula testify to
>> the truth of the Nazi genocide. For survivors, contemporary society's
>> embrace of their painful legacy has provided a measure of solace. But that
>> solace is eroding in the face of twin threats: organized movements that seek
>> to prove the Holocaust did not exist or, failing that, to strip away its
>> Jewish character.

>Well the jewish character seemsas always to to find monetary gain enough. We
>have them reviling and complaining about all things anti semitic , putting
>men in jail if they mention the holocaust. And it all appears to be to
>protect their beloved leaders the zionists who having done such a good job
>in convincing European jews to wlk unresisting into nazi camps putting there
>families at the mercy of paedophiles and rapists, medical experimentation
>and anything else the nazis felt they wanted to do.

>They are now protecting their zionist leaders by pumping up the death toll
>so the poor embarrassed cleverest portions of our populations can keep
>hiding from their horrendous mistake/s.

>http://666ismoney.com/HolocaustAds.html
>I, Raquel Baranow am a Grad Student of Holocaust Denial. There are persons
>with PhD's in various fields who also deny the 6 million canard. The best evidence is forensic. 
>Until recently, there was never a forensic  examination of the alleged murder weapon (gas chambers). 
>Demographic figures are incomplete. After the fall of East Europe to communism, many of the millions 
>of Jews who fled Poland into the Soviet Union or ended up behind the Iron Curtain changed their names 
>to assimilate, many civilians died in the war, many died in the concentration camps of louse-born typhus. 
>During World War One, two million civilians in the Soviet Union died of typhus. Many died in Stalin's gulags.
>Yad Vashem,( http://www.yadvashem.org/wps/portal/IY_HON_Welcome)a Holocaust
>Documentation Center in Israel has a database of  3,000,000 alleged victims of  Nazi
>extermination. But as you can see HERE
>(http://666ismoney.com/YadVashem.html) (my maiden name, Friedemann), nearly
>every name is listed at least twice, some as many as five times!

>Yad Vashem's 3,000,000 "Holocaust victims" database lists nearly
>everyone twice. Some as many at five times. Anyone, including
>you can submit a "Page of Testimony".

>Name                                  Town          District          Region
>Country          Bday          Source

>Friedemann Adolf        Berlin         Berlin         Berlin         Germany
>1879         list of victims from Germany
>Friedemann Adolf        Berlin         Berlin         Berlin         Germany
>1879         list of deportation from Berlin
>Friedemann Adolf        Berlin         Berlin         Berlin         Germany
>1905         list of deportation from Berlin

>It is forensically impractical or impossible to exterminate millions with
>louse disinfestant (hydrogen cyanide gas) or diesel exhaust as alleged by malicious
>"witnesses" or tortured confessors. There are no written orders for
>extermination. Aerial reconnaissance photographs of the concentration camps
>show no smoke and flames belching from the crematoria and pyres as alleged. 
>The photos and records show there was not enough coke or
>crematoria to cremate millions of corpses. The "witnesses" and confessors
>lied about how many minutes it takes to cremate a corpse. Diesel exhaust does not 
>contain significant amount of carbon monoxide to kill a human. If
>the Nazis wanted to kill millions they could have driven the coal fired
>train into a tunnel or quonset hut and gassed 'em with the exhaust from the 
>locomotive or used the exhaust from the crematoria. At Auschwitz, during a typhus
>epidemic, up to 300 people died per day, hence the crematoria, shaving of
>heads and requisitions for tons of Zyklon B louse disinfestant. HCN is a very 
>dangerous, impractical, messy method for extermination.
>http://www.vho.org/
>The Holocaust Controversy A Case for open Debate
>The Gas Chambers are a fraud, a tourist attraction, slander, demonizing,
>impractical/impossible, malicious atrocity propaganda spread by the communists, 
>who hated Hitler and perpetrated by Jews, who were always
>looking for ways to get to the lands of milk and money. The Jews have
>extorted billions from the US Treasury,
>Germany, Swiss banks and insurance companies on account of the Holohoax
>fraud. The Holohoax also makes those who fought Hitler feel like they did something 
>good fighting the demon, Hitler instead of letting Hitler take on Stalin alone.

>A "liberal" person has an open mind. A bigot is irrational and obstinate.

>> Of course, the revisionist "historians" and hatemongers who deny the
>> existence of the Holocaust, influential as they are in some marginal
>> circles, operate outside respectable discourse. But the same is not true of
>> those who seek to drain the Holocaust of its Jewish component. Imagine, if
>> you will, a Holocaust commemoration that Jews were not allowed to attend.
>> Oslo witnessed such an event on Nov. 9, the 66th anniversary of
>> Kristallnacht, the Third Reich's state-orchestrated pogrom against Germany's
>> Jews. Norwegian authorities, not wanting any trouble from Muslims, forbade
>> the display of Jewish symbols, including the Star of David and the Israeli
>> flag. The evening news showed a group of Jews who wanted to take part in the
>> commemoration being told by a policeman to "please leave the area."

>> The Oslo outrage echoed what occurred in 2000 when the Dutch Committee of
>> the Jewish Resistance cancelled a public event out of fear of disturbances
>> caused by Arab youths. While Amsterdam municipal authorities supported a
>> memorial meeting commemorating Kristallnacht, they insisted -- over the
>> objections of Jewish survivors -- that an Arab speaker could use the
>> occasion to attack Israel. In Belgium and France, meanwhile, teachers are
>> increasingly unwilling or unable to teach mandated sessions on the Holocaust
>> because of ugly disturbances by Arab students.

>> In Raoul Wallenberg's homeland, Sweden, a third of young people recently
>> polled were skeptical that the Holocaust really happened. Similar skepticism
>> was reported in Greek newspapers -- before, during, and after last year's
>> summer Olympics. And a recent report from the largest Dutch Jewish community
>> organization, the Ashkenazi Orthodox NIK, noted that "there is less and less
>> knowledge of the fact that six million Jews were murdered in the Second
>> World War," and raised the question "whether this is the natural result of
>> the passage of time, which leads to distance from the Holocaust, or whether
>> this is the result of government policy."

>> What's going on here is worthy of George Orwell: the theft of Holocaust
>> remembrance by revisionists and their unwitting allies. Increasingly,
>> Europeans decry genocide by reference to Rwanda and Sudan, while passing
>> over the even greater atrocity that took place on their own soil.

>> Among left-wing thinkers, the favoured recasting of Hitler's Final Solution
>> deflects the spotlight from the wartime destruction of European Jewry to the
>> postwar travails of the Palestinians. In this perversion, Israel --attacked
>> by the Arabs in five wars since its founding in 1948 and still under
>> constant terrorist barrage -- is no longer the haven for Hitler's Survivors,
>> but the perpetrator of "ethnic cleansing," "apartheid" and abundant other
>> slanders. Meanwhile, the atrocities committed by Arab suicide bombers are
>> passed over lightly as the desperate acts of "militants" driven to rage by
>> Israeli cruelty. While it is still fashionable for European leaders to shed
>> a tear for the victims of Auschwitz, they are dry-eyed when it comes to the
>> mass murders of those victims' offspring.

>> Just days before 9/11, the United Nations' World Conference Against Racism
>> in Durban, South Africa, showed how the global human rights agenda could be
>> hijacked by bigots. The only panel on the four-day program dealing with
>> anti-semitism was disrupted by pro-Palestinian zealots who insisted that
>> "anti-semitism" be redefined as "anti-Arab sentiment" because Arabs -- not
>> Jews -- are "the real Semites." It is a common theme in the Muslim world. In
>> the United Arab Emirates, the executive director of an Arab think-tank
>> recently explained that Israel has no right to exist because Jews "have
>> nothing to do with Semitism or Palestine."

>> Where Jews are concerned, the 21st century is witnessing the emergence of an
>> unholy alliance between Muslim extremists and left-wing fellow travellers. A
>> recent report by the European Monitoring Centre on Racism and Xenophobia,
>> initially suppressed by the EU, documented the trend that recycles Jew
>> hatred from Europe to the Mideast and back again -- finding its greatest
>> echo among disaffected Muslim youth across the continent. As an antidote,
>> the report recommended that "the governments of the EU Member States should
>> undertake initiatives ... to mobilise the support of political and social
>> leaders to foster Holocaust education, remembrance and research."

>> But if what happened on Nov. 9 in Oslo is any indication, Holocaust
>> "remembrance" is being compromised by the very disease it seeks to cure.
>> Left unchecked, this new pathology could pave the way for a yet another dark
>> chapter in the relationship between Europe and the Jewish people.

>> Rabbi Abraham Cooper is associate dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center. Dr.
>> Harold Brackman is a historian and consultant to the Center.

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


Posted by: 
Patrick Lee Humphrey
7500 Bellerive #1807
Houston, Texas 77036-3040
1-713-266-7764

Steven Horn (KCOM)
1836 NW 11th St
Oklahoma City, OK 73106
(405) 524-0576

together with
Boris Dynin  = NAMBLA executive & 
Henry 
CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even 
VISIT me at:
55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco  94132

We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.


Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late
nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
work:(780)492-0473

And also: George Firestone: "George" ,
and davejoll@ihug.co.nz.

Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
for many years around the world.




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From: Matthias Kern 
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Subject: Harris = Heydrich = Kein Unterschied!!
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On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 19:28:17 +0200, Carla Schneider 
wrote:
>Ulrich Heymach wrote:
>> Carla Schneider schrieb:

>> > Des Krieges der dem Deutschen Volk von den Siegermaechten des
>> > ersten Weltkrieges aufgezwungen wurde, nachdem Deutschland den
>> > Versailler Vertrag nicht mehr erfuellte.
>> 
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjMqw1-hdYE&mode=related&search=
>Wecker sagt nein zur Verfassungsschutzpartei .
>Was nutzt uns das hier ?
>Dir ist doch mehr nach diesem hier:
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAh5mfkuAXk
>Oder etwas moderner:
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLVMvwptPkY

Etwas klarer:
Harris - Heydrich: Ein Unterschied? 

On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 11:19:36 +0100, in de.soc.politik.misc Werner Schneider
 wrote:

Nein.

Begründung:

1) Harris wollte soviele Deutsche wie möglich umbringen
lassen, Heydrich soviele Juden wie möglich.

2) Heydrich wollte natürlich auch die jüdische Kultur mit
allem, was dazu gehört, beseitigen. Harris liess bevorzugt
deutsche Innenstädte bombardieren, um soviel deutsche Kultur
wie möglich zu zerstören.

3) Grossbritannien führte gegen das Deutsche Reich einen
selbst erklärten Krieg, dessen Bestandteil "Luftkrieg" mit
grösstmöglicher Grausamkeit geführt wurde. Auch jeder deutsche
Zivilist war Angriffsziel. Für die Nazis waren die Juden
schlechthin Angriffsziel. Es fehlte bei beiden jegliche
Differenzierung nach gut und schlecht, nach erlaubt und
nicht erlaubt. Erlaubt war alles. Sowohl hier wie da.

4) Die Briten gaben und geben vor, gegen ein Verbrecher-
Regime zu kämpfen bzw. gekämpft zu haben und nutzen dieses
Argument als Begründung für ihre brutale Luftkriegsführung.
Es zieht allerdings nicht. Wie kann man 500.000 Zivilisten
töten und sich dann die Hände in Unschuld waschen? Auch
den 500.000 wurde ein Holocaust bereitet. Wenn Harris
gekonnt hätte, wären ihm auch 6 Millionen Recht gewesen.

5) Verbrechen sind Verbrechen, egal, wie man sie begründet.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

6) Worin unterscheiden sich also Harris und Heydrich:
Für Harris wurde in London ein Denkmal errichtet.

Werner


On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 11:19:36 +0100, in de.soc.politik.misc Werner Schneider
 wrote:

Nein.

Begründung:

1) Harris wollte soviele Deutsche wie möglich umbringen
lassen, Heydrich soviele Juden wie möglich.

2) Heydrich wollte natürlich auch die jüdische Kultur mit
allem, was dazu gehört, beseitigen. Harris liess bevorzugt
deutsche Innenstädte bombardieren, um soviel deutsche Kultur
wie möglich zu zerstören.

3) Grossbritannien führte gegen das Deutsche Reich einen
selbst erklärten Krieg, dessen Bestandteil "Luftkrieg" mit
grösstmöglicher Grausamkeit geführt wurde. Auch jeder deutsche
Zivilist war Angriffsziel. Für die Nazis waren die Juden
schlechthin Angriffsziel. Es fehlte bei beiden jegliche
Differenzierung nach gut und schlecht, nach erlaubt und
nicht erlaubt. Erlaubt war alles. Sowohl hier wie da.

4) Die Briten gaben und geben vor, gegen ein Verbrecher-
Regime zu kämpfen bzw. gekämpft zu haben und nutzen dieses
Argument als Begründung für ihre brutale Luftkriegsführung.
Es zieht allerdings nicht. Wie kann man 500.000 Zivilisten
töten und sich dann die Hände in Unschuld waschen? Auch
den 500.000 wurde ein Holocaust bereitet. Wenn Harris
gekonnt hätte, wären ihm auch 6 Millionen Recht gewesen.

5) Verbrechen sind Verbrechen, egal, wie man sie begründet.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

6) Worin unterscheiden sich also Harris und Heydrich:
Für Harris wurde in London ein Denkmal errichtet.

Werner


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From: Matthias Kern 
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On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 19:28:17 +0200, Carla Schneider 
wrote:
>Ulrich Heymach wrote:
>> Carla Schneider schrieb:

>> > Des Krieges der dem Deutschen Volk von den Siegermaechten des
>> > ersten Weltkrieges aufgezwungen wurde, nachdem Deutschland den
>> > Versailler Vertrag nicht mehr erfuellte.

>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjMqw1-hdYE&mode=related&search=
>Wecker sagt nein zur Verfassungsschutzpartei .
>Was nutzt uns das hier ?
>Dir ist doch mehr nach diesem hier:
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAh5mfkuAXk
>Oder etwas moderner:
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLVMvwptPkY

Etwas klarer:
Harris + Heydrich: Kein Unterschied? Beide sind KampfKriminale und Moerdern!

On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 11:19:36 +0100, in de.soc.politik.misc Werner Schneider
 wrote:

Nein.

Begründung:

1) Harris wollte soviele Deutsche wie möglich umbringen
lassen, Heydrich soviele Juden wie möglich.

2) Heydrich wollte natürlich auch die jüdische Kultur mit
allem, was dazu gehört, beseitigen. Harris liess bevorzugt
deutsche Innenstädte bombardieren, um soviel deutsche Kultur
wie möglich zu zerstören.

3) Grossbritannien führte gegen das Deutsche Reich einen
selbst erklärten Krieg, dessen Bestandteil "Luftkrieg" mit
grösstmöglicher Grausamkeit geführt wurde. Auch jeder deutsche
Zivilist war Angriffsziel. Für die Nazis waren die Juden
schlechthin Angriffsziel. Es fehlte bei beiden jegliche
Differenzierung nach gut und schlecht, nach erlaubt und
nicht erlaubt. Erlaubt war alles. Sowohl hier wie da.

4) Die Briten gaben und geben vor, gegen ein Verbrecher-
Regime zu kämpfen bzw. gekämpft zu haben und nutzen dieses
Argument als Begründung für ihre brutale Luftkriegsführung.
Es zieht allerdings nicht. Wie kann man 500.000 Zivilisten
töten und sich dann die Hände in Unschuld waschen? Auch
den 500.000 wurde ein Holocaust bereitet. Wenn Harris
gekonnt hätte, wären ihm auch 6 Millionen Recht gewesen.

5) Verbrechen sind Verbrechen, egal, wie man sie begründet.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

6) Worin unterscheiden sich also Harris und Heydrich:
Für Harris wurde in London ein Denkmal errichtet.

Werner


On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 11:19:36 +0100, in de.soc.politik.misc Werner Schneider
 wrote:

Nein.

Begründung:

1) Harris wollte soviele Deutsche wie möglich umbringen
lassen, Heydrich soviele Juden wie möglich.

2) Heydrich wollte natürlich auch die jüdische Kultur mit
allem, was dazu gehört, beseitigen. Harris liess bevorzugt
deutsche Innenstädte bombardieren, um soviel deutsche Kultur
wie möglich zu zerstören.

3) Grossbritannien führte gegen das Deutsche Reich einen
selbst erklärten Krieg, dessen Bestandteil "Luftkrieg" mit
grösstmöglicher Grausamkeit geführt wurde. Auch jeder deutsche
Zivilist war Angriffsziel. Für die Nazis waren die Juden
schlechthin Angriffsziel. Es fehlte bei beiden jegliche
Differenzierung nach gut und schlecht, nach erlaubt und
nicht erlaubt. Erlaubt war alles. Sowohl hier wie da.

4) Die Briten gaben und geben vor, gegen ein Verbrecher-
Regime zu kämpfen bzw. gekämpft zu haben und nutzen dieses
Argument als Begründung für ihre brutale Luftkriegsführung.
Es zieht allerdings nicht. Wie kann man 500.000 Zivilisten
töten und sich dann die Hände in Unschuld waschen? Auch
den 500.000 wurde ein Holocaust bereitet. Wenn Harris
gekonnt hätte, wären ihm auch 6 Millionen Recht gewesen.

5) Verbrechen sind Verbrechen, egal, wie man sie begründet.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

6) Worin unterscheiden sich also Harris und Heydrich:
Für Harris wurde in London ein Denkmal errichtet.

Werner


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ZYD Ritual Murder of Children/Ritual Morder der Kinder - Well Documented
No wonder good  people really dislike  ZYD Christkillers for more than 2000
years!

On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:44:15 -0400, in alt.politics.nationalism.white "Whip"
 wrote:

"JEWISH RITUAL MURDERS" IN RUSSIA
FIVE CHILDREN FOUND DEAD IN PIT; 
BLOOD DRAINED FROM BODIES!
CORPSES WERE SET ON FIRE TO HIDE BLOOD DRAINING

On April 16, 2005, just a week before the beginning the the Jewish Passover 
on April 23, five children, Muslim and Christian, "disappeared" in the 
Russian Siberian city of Krasnoyarsk.  Their burnt bodies have been found in 
a sewage pit.

A popular Russian daily, Komsomolskaya Pravda, writes today that many 
Russians in the city are convinced that the children were ritually murdered 
by local Jews who later burnt their bodies to conceal the crime and prevent 
experts to find in the bodies the lack of blood which is used by Hasidic 
Jews for ritual purposes.

Few people in the city believe that the Jewish murderers ever come to trial 
and that the murders would be properly clarified by police investigaters in 
present-day new democratic Russia.

Vladimir Salamatov, the lawyer representing the interests of the parents of 
the murdered children told the paper that 5 independent experts confirmed 
the lack of hemoglobine (red substance in human blood) in all burnt bodies.

"I am sure that it was a ritual murder with exsanguination", he said.

Evgeny Kazantsev, the Head of Untraditional Religious Groups Monitoring 
Center, agrees that it was a ritual murder.

A Moscow independent researcher and journalist, Mikhail Nazarov, stresses 
that there is a large Jewish community in Krasnoyarsk and that the 
authorities do their best to conceal this ritual murder committed by the 
Jews. A witness reported seeing the bodies of the children thrown intact in 
the pit as proscribed by the Jewish ritual and then somebody burnt then to 
conceal ritual wounds in specific places of the bodies made for the 
exsanguination, Mr nazarov said.

The researcher reminded of a well-known case of the ritual murder of a 
10-year-old Christian child, Andyusha Yushchinsky in Kiev in 1913. A local 
Jewish community activist, Beilis, was arrested and accused of the murder 
and later released by a court because of insufficient evidence, with a minor 
overweight among the jury.

"The murder of Andryusha Yushchinsky also took place few day before the 
Jewish Passover, his body was also exsanguinated and thrown off without 
burial", Mr Nazarov said.

"And Beilis belonged to the same Lubavichi Hasidic branch of Judaism as the 
present Chief Rabbi of Russia Berl Lazar who ... copies American gangstes 
practises (he was born in the US) and acts with support of Jewish oligarchs, 
the Kransnoyarsk Chief Rabbi Wagner and the Jewish Governor of the 
Krasnoyarsk Territory Khloponin", Mr. Nazarov added in his interview with 
the Moscow paper.

http://krsk.kp.ru/2006/09/20/doc137434/ 


On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 18:06:27 -0600, Frank Arthur  wrote:

>A well researched and documented article,deserving re-posting worldwide.

>On 4 Apr 2007 21:01:42 -0700, in alt.politics.nationalism.white "dsfkfnir
>lfdsjsafd"  wrote:

>BIBLIOGRAPHY OF WORKS SUPPORTING
>THE BLOOD ACCUSATION.

>Acta Sanctorum. This is the work of the Bollandists, who were a band
>of Jesuits devoting themselves to historical record between 1643 and
>1883. The volumes in which they recorded various ritual murders by
>Jews are mainly those written in the seventeenth century.

> Histoire Universelle de l'Englise Catholique, by Abbe Rohrbacher
>(Gaume et Freres, 1845).

> Lives of the Saints, by Alban Butler.

> Dizionario Ecclesiastico, Vol. 64-66 (Semenario Peo-scire, Venice,
>1853-4).

> Annales Ecclesiastici, ab 1198, p. 568, by O. Raynaldus, 1753. These
>two deal with the case of St. Simon of Trent.

> Catholic Bulletin, August, 1916 (published at Dublin, M. H. Gill &
>Sons).

> Cahiers Romains, Catholic publication in Rome, 29th November, 1913.

> Acts and Monuments of the Church, by John Foxe, 1563.

> A Short Demurrer to the Jewes long discontinued Remitter into
>England, by William Prynne, 1656.

> Les Juifs devant l'Eglise et l' Histoire, by Rev. Father Constant.

> Meine Antworten an die Rabbiner: Funf Briefe uber den Talmudismus und
>das Blut-Ritual der Juden, by August Rohling (1883), Canon of Prague
>Cathedral.

> La France Juive, by Edouard Drumont. Obtainable from M. Petit, 12 rue
>Laugier, Paris 17. 70 francs.

> Le Juif, le Judaisme et la Judaisation des Peuples Chretiens, by
>Gougenot des Mousseaux, Chevalier, 1886. The whole of Chapter VI is
>devoted to Ritual Murders.

> Le Mystère du Sang chez les Juifs de tous les Temps, by Henri
>Desportes, 1889 (Savine).

> Le Crime Rituel chez les Juifs, by A. Monniot, 1914. Obtainable from
>M. Petit, 12 rue Laugier, Paris 17. 10 francs. An excellent general
>guide to the whole subject, with preface by Edouard Drumont. It was
>Drumont who exposed the Jewish Panama scandals.

> Der Ritual Mord bei den Juden, by Eugen Brandt.

> Ritual Morde, by Ottokar Stauf von der March (Hammer Verlag).

> Judische Moral und Blut Mysterium, by A. Fern, 1927.

> Der Ritual Mord, by G. Utikal. This book is recommended by the Reich
>Office for the Promotion of German Literature as "a truly national
>representation of Jewish Ritual Murder."

> Das Blut in Judischen Schriftum, by Dr. Bischoff, 1929.

> Der Stürmer, Special Ritual Murder Issue, dated May, 1934, Nuremburg.
>The reader should not be prejudiced by the Jewish campaign of hate
>against the editor of Der Stürmer. The Ritual Murder issue is a
>valuable historical record.

> The Jew, the Gypsy, and El Islam, by Sir Richard Burton, edited by W.
>H. Wilkins (Hutchinson, 1898).

> Isabella of Spain, by W. T. Walsh, 1931 (Sheed & Ward), pp. 125,
>439-468, and 628.
>References to other authorities in particular cases of Ritual Murder
>are made in the text when describing these cases.

>To the above list should be added a recent work intended to clear the
>Jews from the Blood Accusation, but which, at least in my own opinion,
>appears to support it: -- The Ritual Murder Libel and the Jews, by C.
>Roth (Woburn Press, 1935)



For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
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ZYD Ritual Murder of Children/Ritual Morder der Kinder - Well Documented
No wonder  good Christian people really dislike the  ZYD Christkillers for
more than 2000 years!

On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:44:15 -0400, in alt.politics.nationalism.white "Whip"
 wrote:

"JEWISH RITUAL MURDERS" IN RUSSIA
FIVE CHILDREN FOUND DEAD IN PIT; 
BLOOD DRAINED FROM BODIES!
CORPSES WERE SET ON FIRE TO HIDE BLOOD DRAINING

On April 16, 2005, just a week before the beginning the the Jewish Passover 
on April 23, five children, Muslim and Christian, "disappeared" in the 
Russian Siberian city of Krasnoyarsk.  Their burnt bodies have been found in 
a sewage pit.

A popular Russian daily, Komsomolskaya Pravda, writes today that many 
Russians in the city are convinced that the children were ritually murdered 
by local Jews who later burnt their bodies to conceal the crime and prevent 
experts to find in the bodies the lack of blood which is used by Hasidic 
Jews for ritual purposes.

Few people in the city believe that the Jewish murderers ever come to trial 
and that the murders would be properly clarified by police investigaters in 
present-day new democratic Russia.

Vladimir Salamatov, the lawyer representing the interests of the parents of 
the murdered children told the paper that 5 independent experts confirmed 
the lack of hemoglobine (red substance in human blood) in all burnt bodies.

"I am sure that it was a ritual murder with exsanguination", he said.

Evgeny Kazantsev, the Head of Untraditional Religious Groups Monitoring 
Center, agrees that it was a ritual murder.

A Moscow independent researcher and journalist, Mikhail Nazarov, stresses 
that there is a large Jewish community in Krasnoyarsk and that the 
authorities do their best to conceal this ritual murder committed by the 
Jews. A witness reported seeing the bodies of the children thrown intact in 
the pit as proscribed by the Jewish ritual and then somebody burnt then to 
conceal ritual wounds in specific places of the bodies made for the 
exsanguination, Mr nazarov said.

The researcher reminded of a well-known case of the ritual murder of a 
10-year-old Christian child, Andyusha Yushchinsky in Kiev in 1913. A local 
Jewish community activist, Beilis, was arrested and accused of the murder 
and later released by a court because of insufficient evidence, with a minor 
overweight among the jury.

"The murder of Andryusha Yushchinsky also took place few day before the 
Jewish Passover, his body was also exsanguinated and thrown off without 
burial", Mr Nazarov said.

"And Beilis belonged to the same Lubavichi Hasidic branch of Judaism as the 
present Chief Rabbi of Russia Berl Lazar who ... copies American gangstes 
practises (he was born in the US) and acts with support of Jewish oligarchs, 
the Kransnoyarsk Chief Rabbi Wagner and the Jewish Governor of the 
Krasnoyarsk Territory Khloponin", Mr. Nazarov added in his interview with 
the Moscow paper.

http://krsk.kp.ru/2006/09/20/doc137434/ 


On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 18:06:27 -0600, Frank Arthur  wrote:

>A well researched and documented article,deserving re-posting worldwide.

>On 4 Apr 2007 21:01:42 -0700, in alt.politics.nationalism.white "dsfkfnir
>lfdsjsafd"  wrote:

>BIBLIOGRAPHY OF WORKS SUPPORTING
>THE BLOOD ACCUSATION.

>Acta Sanctorum. This is the work of the Bollandists, who were a band
>of Jesuits devoting themselves to historical record between 1643 and
>1883. The volumes in which they recorded various ritual murders by
>Jews are mainly those written in the seventeenth century.

> Histoire Universelle de l'Englise Catholique, by Abbe Rohrbacher
>(Gaume et Freres, 1845).

> Lives of the Saints, by Alban Butler.

> Dizionario Ecclesiastico, Vol. 64-66 (Semenario Peo-scire, Venice,
>1853-4).

> Annales Ecclesiastici, ab 1198, p. 568, by O. Raynaldus, 1753. These
>two deal with the case of St. Simon of Trent.

> Catholic Bulletin, August, 1916 (published at Dublin, M. H. Gill &
>Sons).

> Cahiers Romains, Catholic publication in Rome, 29th November, 1913.

> Acts and Monuments of the Church, by John Foxe, 1563.

> A Short Demurrer to the Jewes long discontinued Remitter into
>England, by William Prynne, 1656.

> Les Juifs devant l'Eglise et l' Histoire, by Rev. Father Constant.

> Meine Antworten an die Rabbiner: Funf Briefe uber den Talmudismus und
>das Blut-Ritual der Juden, by August Rohling (1883), Canon of Prague
>Cathedral.

> La France Juive, by Edouard Drumont. Obtainable from M. Petit, 12 rue
>Laugier, Paris 17. 70 francs.

> Le Juif, le Judaisme et la Judaisation des Peuples Chretiens, by
>Gougenot des Mousseaux, Chevalier, 1886. The whole of Chapter VI is
>devoted to Ritual Murders.

> Le Mystère du Sang chez les Juifs de tous les Temps, by Henri
>Desportes, 1889 (Savine).

> Le Crime Rituel chez les Juifs, by A. Monniot, 1914. Obtainable from
>M. Petit, 12 rue Laugier, Paris 17. 10 francs. An excellent general
>guide to the whole subject, with preface by Edouard Drumont. It was
>Drumont who exposed the Jewish Panama scandals.

> Der Ritual Mord bei den Juden, by Eugen Brandt.

> Ritual Morde, by Ottokar Stauf von der March (Hammer Verlag).

> Judische Moral und Blut Mysterium, by A. Fern, 1927.

> Der Ritual Mord, by G. Utikal. This book is recommended by the Reich
>Office for the Promotion of German Literature as "a truly national
>representation of Jewish Ritual Murder."

> Das Blut in Judischen Schriftum, by Dr. Bischoff, 1929.

> Der Stürmer, Special Ritual Murder Issue, dated May, 1934, Nuremburg.
>The reader should not be prejudiced by the Jewish campaign of hate
>against the editor of Der Stürmer. The Ritual Murder issue is a
>valuable historical record.

> The Jew, the Gypsy, and El Islam, by Sir Richard Burton, edited by W.
>H. Wilkins (Hutchinson, 1898).

> Isabella of Spain, by W. T. Walsh, 1931 (Sheed & Ward), pp. 125,
>439-468, and 628.
>References to other authorities in particular cases of Ritual Murder
>are made in the text when describing these cases.

>To the above list should be added a recent work intended to clear the
>Jews from the Blood Accusation, but which, at least in my own opinion,
>appears to support it: -- The Ritual Murder Libel and the Jews, by C.
>Roth (Woburn Press, 1935)



For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
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Der Ewige Jude = The Eternal Jew/ZYD - Immer die verfluechte Juden - 
Worth watching.

It is still available at:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=4664969119079760194
as well as at a few other sites, so enjoy seeing this documentary.


On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 18:02:41 +0200, Matthias Kern 
wrote:
>Art Franks  schrieb:
>> On 3 Aug 2006 14:22:20 -0700, in can.politics "Listen to Goyfire
>> Radio"  wrote:

>> http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=8441356137394932381&q=eternal+jews

>Very useful your posting in 6 newsgroups:




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Subject: Der neue alte Antisemitismus was: Re: ZioNazis, ab in den sozialen Verachtungstod
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Der neue alte Antisemitismus was: Re: ZioNazis, ab in den sozialen Ver
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 10:55:13 -0700
Message-ID: 

On 10 Nov 2006 00:00:00 +0000, in de.soc.politik.misc
m.blumentritt@cl-hh.comlink.de (Martin Blumentritt) wrote:

Der "neue Antisemitismus" - Altes Gift mit neuem Etikett Rede von Dr.
Dieter Graumann - Frankfurt/Main Rede von Dr. Dieter Graumann,
Präsidiumsmitglied des Zentralrats der Juden in Deutschland und
Kulturdezernent der Jüdischen Gemeinde Frankfurt, anlässlich der
offiziellen Gedenkveranstaltung für die Pogromnacht vom 9. November
1938 in der Paulskirche in Frankfurt/Main am 9. November 2004

In Europa blüht die alte Seuche neu auf

Der 9. November 1938 gilt zu Recht gemeinhin als eine Explosion von
Sadismus, von Vandalismus, von Mordlust, von Zerstörungswut. Es war
der keineswegs spontane, vielmehr sorgfältig gelenkte, inszenierte,
orchestrierte Ausbruch von brutaler Judenfeindschaft.

Wie ist das heute? Die Pest von Antisemitismus ist nicht tot, sondern
höchst lebendig. In den letzten Monaten hat es zu diesem Thema, da es
leider so aktuell ist, große internationale Konferenzen und
Erklärungen gegeben.

Oft wird heute dabei vom "neuen Antisemitismus" gesprochen. Ist er
wirklich neu? Was ist dabei neu? Oder: Handelt es sich am Ende doch
nur um das alte Gift mit neuem Etikett? Und: Wie geht das moderne,
aufgeklärte Europa mit dieser Seuche um?

Antisemitismus vergeht nicht. Aber auch der Antisemitismus geht
inzwischen mit der Zeit. Auch er geht sozusagen mit der Mode, macht
sich fein und chic, um attraktiv und akzeptabel und legitim zu
erscheinen.

Natürlich gibt es noch den "alten" - soll man etwa sagen: den "guten
alten" ? - Antisemitismus: jener, der die Juden als rassisch
minderwertig qualifiziert, sie aussondern oder gar eliminieren will.
Das alles gibt es noch heute - aber in dieser Schlichtheit doch eher
selten.

Der Antisemitismus von heute stellt sich oft anders dar als früher,
chiffriert, codiert - aber nicht weniger gehässig und verwerflich.
Heutzutage will kaum jemand mehr sich direkt als Antisemit outen.
Denn allzu sehr ist doch der offen ausgesprochene Judenhass mit dem
millionenfachen Morden, mit den monumentalen Mordfabriken verknüpft
und gilt daher politisch als nicht - oder als noch nicht wieder -
korrekt.

Was also ist zu tun? Wie soll sich denn der arme Antisemit von heute
eigentlich artikulieren? Fast könnte er einem ja leid tun: Auschwitz
leugnen soll er nicht. Auschwitz loben darf er nicht. Juden
akzeptieren kann er nicht. Eine verzwickte Lage.

Wie gut, dass es da Israel gibt! Gäbe es Israel nicht, die
Antisemiten von heute müssten es direkt erfinden!

Denn Israel liefert doch die perfekte Möglichkeit, uralte
antisemitische Instinkte unter der modischen, bunten Flagge von
Antizionismus politisch korrekt auszuleben.

Dass das überhaupt möglich ist, müsste die Antisemiten von heute
perverserweise eigentlich zu begeisterten Zionisten machen. Aber das
wäre wahrscheinlich denn doch zu viel verlangt.

Wohlgemerkt: Ganz sicher ist keineswegs jede Israelkritik
antisemitisch. Und Kritik an israelischer Politik ist natürlich
legitim. Nirgends ist diese Kritik auch leidenschaftlicher als in
Israel selbst - ganz unabhängig übrigens davon, welche Politik dort
gerade verfolgt wird. Aber Israel ist nicht nur die einzige
Demokratie der Region, sondern verfügt außerdem über eine besonders
intensive und lebendige Streitkultur.

Aber hier geht es doch um etwas ganz anderes: Denn oft, und öfter als
man denkt, dient die radikale, von Hass getragene Kritik an Israel
nur als Vehikel, um am Ende doch wieder nur den allzu vertrauten
Judenhass zu transportieren.

Neu ist das nicht: Spätestens seit Stalin und seinen Schauprozessen
ist Antizionismus zu einem Codewort für Antisemitismus geworden.

Und auch heute gibt es sehr wohl den Ersatzantisemitismus, der Israel
sagt und Juden meint. Kritik an Israel als Alibi, als Vorwand, als
Deckmantel für ausgelebte Judenfeindschaft

- das ist in Europa heute nur allzu oft rüde Realität.

In Deutschland hat das Ganze natürlich noch einen ganz besonderen
Akzent, einen ganz speziellen Geschmack. Es ist eine
"Entschuldungs-Debatte", die geführt wird, getragen vom Wunsch, die
Schuld der Väter und Großväter zu verkleinern, indem die Kinder und
Enkel der Opfer von damals zu den Tätern von heute werden. Daraus
spricht die Fantasie - oder die Wunschvorstellung - dass Israelis und
Juden irgendwie doch auch wie die Nazis sein mögen. Es ist der
schamlose Versuch einer schuldentlastenden Projektion. Die
kontroverse Diskussion in Deutschland über das Thema Israel
verursacht auch keineswegs neuen Antisemitismus. Nein: hier wird nur
jener Antisemitismus offenbart, der schon immer vorhanden war. Oder
anders: Wer wegen Israel zum Antisemiten wird, der war schon längst
einer.

Aber natürlich ist das alles keineswegs auf Deutschland beschränkt.
In Frankreich, teilweise aber auch in Belgien, etwa hat der
Antisemitismus geradezu rasante Wachstumsraten aufzuweisen, ist
sozusagen die "Wachstumsbranche" schlechthin. Dort findet die
islamische Hasskampagne gegen Israel und gegen alle Juden offenbar
eine besonders große Resonanz.

Denn vom Islamismus - und alles Leugnen oder Verdrängen hilft hier
doch nicht weiter - bekommt der Antisemitismus von heute frische
Kraft und neues Feuer.

Die Neigung in Europa, islamistische Fehlentwicklungen,  einfach zu
ignorieren - oder soll man sagen: nicht einmal zu ignorieren? - ist
dabei besonders fatal und schändlich. Wie reagiert man denn in Europa
auf schlimmste Diktatur, brutale Folter, auf systematische, schier
unfassbare Unterdrückung von Frauen, von Kindern, von Andersdenkenden
ganz zu schweigen, in islamistisch regierten Ländern? Wohlwollendes
Schweigen, akute Beißhemmung, bemühtes Wegschauen. Feigheit und
Ängstlichkeit, ja auch Doppelmoral und Heuchelei - Appeasement pur.

Und wenn es dann auch noch um Länder geht, die über wirtschaftliche
Macht verfügen, sogar Erdöl exportieren - dann gibt es überhaupt
keine moralischen Bremsen mehr. In den allerletzten Wochen erst: Da
wird ein rundherum blutrünstiges, bösartiges Regime mit einem
Freundschaftsspiel der Fußball-Nationalmannschaft aufgewertet, und
ein berüchtigter, besonders brutaler Diktator, der vermutlich
wahnsinnig, sicher aber verantwortlich ist für Tausende von Mordtaten
weltweit, wird sogar durch einen großartigen Kanzlerbesuch beehrt.
Wir alle wissen doch: Würden diese Länder Bananen statt Erdöl
exportieren - kein Mensch würde sie derart unterwürfig hofieren. Aber
so? Öl statt Moral. Jene, wie etwa die Grünen, die so gerne von der
Moral in der Politik sprechen, habe ich zu diesem Thema jedenfalls
nicht gehört.

In Frankreich sind inzwischen mehrere Hundert Male Synagogen,
jüdische Schulen und Friedhöfe angegriffen worden. Antizionismus?
Aber was, bitteschön, haben Angriffe auf jüdische Bethäuser, jüdische
Friedhöfe und auf jüdische Kinder in Schulen in Frankreich denn
eigentlich mit dem Nah-Ost- Konflikt zu tun? Juden werden
angegriffen, weil sie Juden sind. Das ist Antisemitismus pur. Was
denn sonst? Und: Wird denn Antisemitismus etwa dadurch besser, oder
weniger schlimm, wenn die Täter selbst oft Außenseiter sind?

Der Antisemitismus in Europa insgesamt ist jedenfalls definitiv
stärker geworden, lauter, gefährlicher. Die "Europäische
Beobachtungsstelle für Rassismus und Fremdenfeindlichkeit" hat in
ihrer Studie vom April 2004 gerade das festgestellt. Dort ist zu
lesen, dass selbst in einigen Ländern, in denen es kaum
antisemitische Vorfälle gibt, der Antisemitismus dennoch in der
Bevölkerung oft besonders verbreitet und nachgerade populär ist. Das
gilt etwa für Österreich, was uns allen in dieser Hinsicht wohl
vertraut und ganz zu Recht übel beleumundet ist. Das gilt zum Teil
aber auch für ein Land wie Griechenland, wo die dortige orthodoxe
Kirche eine in dieser Hinsicht nicht immer hilfreiche Rolle spielt.
Das trifft aber auch für andere Länder zu.

Antisemitismus ist jedenfalls in Europa eindeutig aggressiver,
dreister, greller geworden, das ist nicht nur die Wahrnehmung
traumatisierter Juden (wobei gilt: selbst wer unter Verfolgungswahn
leiden sollte, kann durchaus wirklich verfolgt werden!).

Und die entscheidende Rolle spielt heutzutage der Islamismus, der
einen unversöhnlichen, ja tödlichen Hass auf Israel und auf alle
Juden predigt.

Aber schaut man sich einmal genauer die grauenhaften Hetztiraden in
arabischen Zeitungen an, die wahrhaft schauerlichen Fernsehsendungen,
die Hassgeschichten in palästinensischen Schulbüchern - teilweise und
zeitweise sogar mitfinanziert durch die EU, ein kolossaler Skandal
für sich! - die antisemitischen Karikaturen, praktischerweise direkt
dem "Stürmer" entnommen, so stellt man schnell fest: Nichts Neues
unter der Sonne.

Da ist der klassische Antisemitismus europäischer Provenienz wieder
auferstanden: die gleichen Wendungen bis in die Details hinein.

Und neu an diesem Antisemitismus ist nun lediglich, dass er heute so
stark über die islamistische Schiene transportiert wird: global,
total, machtvoll, voll marktschreierischem Hass.

Freilich: Das alles ist nichts anderes als der Re-Import des in
Europa erfundenen alten Antisemitismus mit den immer gleichen
Klischees:

Ritualmord, Jüdische Weltverschwörung, sogar die längst  vergilbten
"Protokolle der Weisen von Zion" (ein ausgesprochen dummes Machwerk
des zaristischen Geheimdienstes, vor genau hundert Jahren fabriziert)
werden wieder ausgegraben, werden reanimiert und exhumiert. Es sind
die immer gleichen Mechanismen: Denunzierung, Dämonisierung,
Stereotypisierung.

Antisemitismus hatte seine Quelle und mörderischen Wurzeln aber immer
in Europa. Doch inzwischen ist er zu einer weltweiten Krankheit
geworden - die Globalisierung umfasst mittlerweile auch den
schlimmsten Judenhass.

Freilich sollte nun niemand etwa denken, hier seien vom Islamismus
lediglich Israel und die Juden gemeint (beide werden hier
bezeichnenderweise immer als Synonym verwendet), und andere kämen so
einfach davon. Nein: Jeder modern lebenden Mensch, und insbesondere
jede selbstbestimmt lebende Frau, sind Ziel dieses feurigen Hasses.
Und der "Jude" ist lediglich Symbol für alles Moderne, ja ein
Codewort für ein modernes Leben in Freiheit. Für den Islamismus ist
Israel und sind die Juden nur populistische Feindbilder, mit denen
generell und universell jede Modernität, mit denen Liberalismus,
Freiheit, Gleichberechtigung bekämpft werden. Denn: Hier geht es um
einen Generalangriff aus der Finsternis des geistigen Mittelalters
auf die gerade in Europa so hoch gehaltenen Werte, auf Toleranz und
Aufklärung schlechthin.

Und doch scheint nun gerade in Europa das Gift islamistischer
Propaganda mehr und mehr aufzugehen.

Und wenn nun osteuropäische Länder, in denen auch die zigtausendfache
Komplizenschaft mit den Judenmorden nie richtig verarbeitet, oft
nicht einmal eingestanden wird, zur EU stoßen, so birgt das - so
schön und wünschenswert das alles ohne Zweifel ist - auch neue
Gefahren. Denn der Antisemitismus lebt in Osteuropa teilweise
ungeniert und ungebrochen weiter: Das gilt für Polen, das uns
inzwischen immer wieder zeigt, dass man zum Antisemitismus gar keine
Juden mehr braucht und wo die katholische Kirche schon immer und noch
immer in dieser Hinsicht allzu oft eine verwerfliche und
niederträchtige Rolle spielte und spielt, das gilt teilweise aber
auch für Ungarn, für Rümänien, für die Slowakei und für die
baltischen Länder auch.

In Europa sollte man die Sorgen der jüdischen Bürger besser ernst
nehmen. Denn Antisemitismus war in der Geschichte immer schon ein
Gradmesser, ein Indikator dafür, wie es um Toleranz und Freiheit in
der ganzen Gesellschaft bestellt ist.

Elie Wiesel hat dazu einmal gesagt: "Wir Juden haben dafür keine
Antennen. Wir sind die Antennen."

Antisemitismus ist eine Seuche, eine Pest, eine Krankheit der
Menschheit. Europa muss das Richtige tun und das Falsche unterlassen.
Nicht wegsehen. Nicht beschwichtigen.

Nicht verniedlichen. Nicht verharmlosen. Sondern: Offensiv und
entschlossen dagegen halten.

Das geschieht nun leider nicht immer. Dafür gibt es er viele
Beispiele. Aber: Warum in die Ferne schweifen - wenn ein schlechtes
Beispiel doch so nahe liegt. Vor genau einem Monat: Frankfurter
Buchmesse. Nun ist eine stärkere Kommunikation mit der arabischen
Welt ohne Zweifel nur zu begrüßen. Kommunikation ist allemal besser
als Konfrontation. Aber die Wahrheit ist doch auch: Ja, bei dieser
Messe wurde auch ganz offensichtlich antisemitische Literatur
ausgestellt. Die Messeleitung, darauf mehrfach angesprochen, stellte
sich taub und behauptete einfach, das sei nicht ganz klar. Nun: Da
wurde ein Buch, um nur ein Beispiel zu nennen, mit dem schönen Titel:
"The Sin of the Jews" angeboten. Zu lesen war in Büchern zum
Beispiel, "die jüdische Religion fordert die Vernichtung aller
Völker" und die Juden seien "sowohl die Mörder des Propheten wie auch
der größte Feind der Menschheit". Die Krönung fand freilich schon
gleich zu Beginn statt: Denn zur Eröffnung sprach der Bundeskanzler
und auch Mohammed Salmavy, ein weltweit bekannter, übler Antisemit
und ein notorischer Holocaust-Leugner. Darauf wurde mehrfach
hingewiesen. Die Veranstalter kümmerte das nicht. Bis heute nicht.
Dabei verdanken wir doch Mohammed Salmawy immerhin so wichtige
Einsichten wie etwa die  Behauptung, die Deutschen hätten die Juden
seinerzeit deportieren müssen, weil sie schließlich eine lästige
Bürde waren, die Öfen in Auschwitz - und damit wir uns alle richtig
verstehen: die Verbrennungsöfen für vorher vergaste Menschen! - hat
er tatsächlich vermessen und als zu klein befunden und den
weltberühmten Holocaust-Leugner David Irving immer aktiv unterstützt.
Vor nicht langer Zeit erst hat er einen Artikel veröffentlich mit dem
feinen Titel: "Cherchez les juifs." Ein solcher Mann eröffnet die
Frankfurter Buchmesse! Man fasst es nicht. Und alle, alle schweigen.
Natürlich: Die Veranstalter der Buchmesse sind mit Sicherheit über
jeden Verdacht des Antisemitismus erhaben. Aber sie haben ihn
schließlich doch auch ein Stück hingenommen, zugelassen, um des
lieben Friedens willen, wie sie ihn verstehen, aus Rücksicht, aus
Vorsicht. Ein schlechtes Beispiel für moralischen Anspruch, ein gutes
Beispiel für moralische Verirrung. Denn: Hinter dieser Haltung steht
anschaulich all das, was ich zuvor als so bedenklich beschrieben
habe: Wegschauen, Wegschauen-Wollen, Verharmlosen, aber auch: Angst,
Feigheit, Doppelmoral, Appeasement pur.

Wer den kleinen Antisemitismus toleriert, verharmlosend in Kauf
nimmt, wird den großen Antisemitismus mit Sicherheit niemals
aufhalten.

Nein: Hier darf es einfach keine Kompromisse geben. Wer hier mit
Kompromissen auch nur beginnt, hat die Schlacht schon verloren.

Antisemitismus muss klar benannt und geächtet werden.

Und Antisemiten, so wichtig sie auch scheinen, gebührt generell keine
prominente Plattform, auch keine großartige Beachtung - sondern nur
Verachtung.

Ich weiß: Solche Sätze sind oft leichter gesagt als umgesetzt.

Aber hier geht es am Ende doch um eine ganz grundsätzliche
Einstellung, die nichtnur gedacht und gefordert werden soll, sondern
immer wieder gelebt werden muss - allen Versuchungen und allen
Widerständen zum Trotz.

mfg Martin Blumentritt http://www.martinblumentritt.de/

"Die Antisemiten vergeben es den Juden nicht, daß die Juden  Geist 
haben - und Geld. Die Antisemiten - ein Name der  Schlechtweggekommenen."
(F.Nietzsche)


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Read, and then repost
No wonder honest people mistrust the Christkiller ZYDS!

From: The Truth Seeker 

51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis.
[Not forgetting KASTNER, RUMKOWSKI and WIESENTHAL]

By Lenni Brenner

Lenni Brenner has collated documents that relate to how the Zionist movement
collaborated with German Nazism and Italian Fascism. Given the subsequent
Holocaust against the Jews by the Nazis, many will be surprised and appalled
that a political movement, which supposedly supported Jewish liberation, was
prepared to collaborate with the most anti-semitic of regimes.

Among the documents is the relatively well known and infamous ŒStern Gang
Proposal¹ in which the organisation of future Israeli PM Yitzhak Shamir offers
to join in WWII on Œthe side of the German Reich¹. There is also the
embarrassing documents of the German Zionists who saw the Nazis as fellow
nationalists and were thus sympathetic to ŒGerman national renewal¹, the
memoirs of an SS officer who stays in Palestine as the guest of the Zionist
movement for 6 months.

These acts of collaboration were not limited to the right wing fringe of the
Zionist movement but went to the heart of the Zionist Labour establishment
when the head of the Haganah, Feival Polkes, became a willing paid informer of
the Gestapo. He was even handled by one of the architects of the Final
Solution, Adolf Eichmann, who also travelled to Palestine to liaise with the
Zionists.

These shocking historical documents will make you realise that the history of
the political movement which founded the state of Israel is not quite what it
seems.

They also prove that Zionists will do *anything* to protect their precious
political movement, even if it means sacrificing several million Jews in the
process, then exploiting their suffering to secure the greater goal of a
Zionist State.

The Truth Seeker has spoken.


On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 11:08:04 -0700, Ken McVayAIDS/SOB  wrote:
>Reply-To: "George" ,
>PRAWDA!
>
>On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:14:47 -0700, Heinrich Himmelfarb
> wrote:
>
>>The story documented below means that the KASTNER CASE was not an
>>isolated incident!!
>
>Now even Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to be a Nazi GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!
>
>
>>On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:25:52 GMT, c@c.cc wrote:
>>> 51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis  
>
>>>September 2004, page 86 
>
>>>Book Review
>
>>>51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis
>>>By Lenni Brenner, ed. Barricade Books, 2002, 342 pp. List: $22; AET:
>>>$15.
>
>>>Reviewed by Sara Powell
>>>It’s no secret that Zionism embraced political expediency to advance
>>>the cause of carving Eretz-Israel from the land of its native
>>>inhabitants. In his 1983 book, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators,
>>>Lenni Brenner shows that 20th century Zionists observed shockingly few
>>>limits to that expediency. Not surprisingly, the book received little
>>>coverage in the American media. Now, in 51 Documents, Brenner has
>>>compiled a wide variety of letters, statements, articles, and
>>>judgements—some of which appeared in his earlier book—by a broad array
>>>of activists and authors, that documents Zionist cooperration with the
>>>Nazis. On the face of it, the notion seems absurd. However, Brenner
>>>presents the case—made in many Zionists’ own words—that the Nazi
>>>agenda of expelling the Jews from Germany fit nicely with the Zionist
>>>plan for enticing those Jews into settling in Palestine and creating a
>>>new Jewish nation. 
>>>
>>>In addition to introductory and concluding chapters, the book is
>>>organized into five sections which lead the reader through early,
>>>pre-Zionist documents; pre-Holocaust ideological factions; the
>>>Holocaust era itself; and a chapter on the Stern Gang and the Nazis.
>>>Readers should note that a few documents are not indicative of
>>>collaboration in and of themselves, but provide the background to
>>>others written in response. These latter do indicate levels of
>>>collaboration between Zionists and fascists, both the Nazis in
>>>Germany, and those in Mussolini’s Italy. Brenner’s brief explanatory
>>>notes at the beginning of each document are helpful, as are the
>>>glossary and index.
>>>
>>>51 Documents assumes a certain knowledge of Zionist history, and
>>>requires a close reading and some deconstructive efforts on the part
>>>of the reader. Those willing to commit the time and effort, however,
>>>are rewarded with some stunning revelations. The reason some Zionists
>>>eschewed the boycott against Hitler’s Germany, for instance, is that
>>>they had a financial deal—Ha’avara—with Germany allowing Jews to
>>>exchange their wealth for goods to be exported to Palestine at less of
>>>a loss, as an incentive to emigrate. Those wondering why Zionists
>>>today are so organized and experienced in their public relations
>>>efforts discover that these battles have been fought before. Moreover,
>>>the section on Nazi and Zionist understandings of “nationality” versus
>>>citizenship reveals how German and Israeli practices are based on the
>>>same concept. 
>>>
>>>51 Documents also sheds a whole new light on the term “Holocaust
>>>guilt,” frequently understood to mean Western, non-Jewish guilt for
>>>not acting against the Holocaust earlier. However, these documents
>>>make it clear that Holocaust guilt began with those Zionists who made
>>>the undoubtedly difficult, but politically expedient choice to place
>>>Eretz-Israel at the top of their priorities, above the lives of their
>>>threatened European brethren.
>>>
>>>From a Zionist Executive Meeting speech by Yitzhak Gruenbaum on Feb.
>>>18, 1943:
>>>
>>>And when some asked me: “Can’t you give money from Keren Ha Yesod
>>>(Palestine Foundation Fund) to save Jews in the Diaspora?” I said:
>>>“No!” And again I say no....And, because of these things, people
>>>called me an anti-Semite, and concluded that I’m guilty, for the fact
>>>that we don’t give ourselves completely to rescue actions. (p. 211)
>>>
>>>However difficult it may be, the reader must confront some rather
>>>disturbing conclusions. The most unsettling realization for this
>>>reviewer is that pre-Holocaust Zionists were able to politically align
>>>themselves with the Nazis because both groups fundamentally saw race
>>>as an important dividing line—and, moreover, were determined to keep
>>>it that way. From Vladimir Jabotinsky to Albert Einstein,
>>>“assimilation” of Jews into the societies in which they lived was not
>>>an acceptable option. Rather, Jewish nationalism required equality on
>>>a national level, not a personal one. As Jabotinsky explained, “It is
>>>impossible for a man to become assimilated with people whose blood is
>>>different from his own” (p. 10); in Einstein’s words, “Palestine is
>>>first and foremost not a refuge for East European Jews, but the
>>>incarnation of a reawakening sense of national solidarity” (p. 29).
>>>Finally, David Yisraeli, a member of the Stern Gang, wrote the
>>>following in late 1940, as part of a proposal to Hitler. It was
>>>delivered in 1941 to two German diplomats in Lebanon.
>>>
>>>3. The establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and
>>>totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would be
>>>in the interest of a maintained and strengthened future German
>>>position of power in the Near East (p. 301).
>>>
>>>Such beliefs, of course, were not limited to Nazis and Zionists.
>>>Scientific and philosophical constructs of the day considered such
>>>differentiation legitimate, and ideas of racial difference—and,
>>>therefore, racial supremacy—were practiced around the world.
>>>
>>>Another disturbing conclusion a reader must inevitably face is that
>>>Zionists learned both tactical and political lessons from the Nazis
>>>and that, even today, these lessons are applied to further the Zionist
>>>cause. Although most likely known to potential readers of this book,
>>>another disturbing element is the cover-up of the less than savory
>>>roles of current Israeli leaders, including former prime ministers, in
>>>the terrorist Irgun and Stern Gang just before, during, and after the
>>>Holocaust. Likewise, the succumbing of various U.S. officials to
>>>Zionist pressure is a familiar, but distressing, story.
>>>
>>>51 Documents seems to represent a renewed attempt by Brenner to bring
>>>information regarding Zionist collaboration with the Nazis to U.S.
>>>supporters of Israel, as well as to Jews and Muslims, in order to
>>>expand dialogue with knowledge, and save lives—both Palestinian and
>>>Israeli—in the process. Readers of 51 Documents will find it difficult
>>>not to remove the rose colored glasses that so many seem to wear when
>>>examining Zionism.
>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
>is a revolutionary act." 
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages. 
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant
>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
>is a revolutionary act." 
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages. 
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant
>
>
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>
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>(405) 524-0576
>
>together with
>Boris Dynin  = NAMBLA executive & 
>Henry 
>CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even 
>VISIT me at:
>55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco  94132
>
>We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>
>
>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>office: VISIT at:
>#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>or call: 1-250-616-9431
>
>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
>called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
>should give an indication as to the why.
>
>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>
>Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked"?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>
>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
>to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>
>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late
>nights.
>
>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
>send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>work:(780)492-0473
>
>And also: George Firestone: "George" 
>
>Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!
>
>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com
>
>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>IHR - www.ihr.org
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
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>
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>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>
>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>
>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>
>In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>for many years around the world.


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On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 19:28:17 +0200, Carla Schneider 
wrote:
>Ulrich Heymach wrote:
>> Carla Schneider schrieb:

>> > Des Krieges der dem Deutschen Volk von den Siegermaechten des
>> > ersten Weltkrieges aufgezwungen wurde, nachdem Deutschland den
>> > Versailler Vertrag nicht mehr erfuellte.

>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjMqw1-hdYE&mode=related&search=
>Wecker sagt nein zur Verfassungsschutzpartei .
>Was nutzt uns das hier ?
>Dir ist doch mehr nach diesem hier:
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAh5mfkuAXk
>Oder etwas moderner:
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLVMvwptPkY

Etwas klarer:
Harris + Heydrich: Kein Unterschied? Beide sind KampfKriminale und Moerdern!

On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 11:19:36 +0100, in de.soc.politik.misc Werner Schneider
 wrote:

Nein.

Begründung:

1) Harris wollte soviele Deutsche wie möglich umbringen
lassen, Heydrich soviele Juden wie möglich.

2) Heydrich wollte natürlich auch die jüdische Kultur mit
allem, was dazu gehört, beseitigen. Harris liess bevorzugt
deutsche Innenstädte bombardieren, um soviel deutsche Kultur
wie möglich zu zerstören.

3) Grossbritannien führte gegen das Deutsche Reich einen
selbst erklärten Krieg, dessen Bestandteil "Luftkrieg" mit
grösstmöglicher Grausamkeit geführt wurde. Auch jeder deutsche
Zivilist war Angriffsziel. Für die Nazis waren die Juden
schlechthin Angriffsziel. Es fehlte bei beiden jegliche
Differenzierung nach gut und schlecht, nach erlaubt und
nicht erlaubt. Erlaubt war alles. Sowohl hier wie da.

4) Die Briten gaben und geben vor, gegen ein Verbrecher-
Regime zu kämpfen bzw. gekämpft zu haben und nutzen dieses
Argument als Begründung für ihre brutale Luftkriegsführung.
Es zieht allerdings nicht. Wie kann man 500.000 Zivilisten
töten und sich dann die Hände in Unschuld waschen? Auch
den 500.000 wurde ein Holocaust bereitet. Wenn Harris
gekonnt hätte, wären ihm auch 6 Millionen Recht gewesen.

5) Verbrechen sind Verbrechen, egal, wie man sie begründet.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

6) Worin unterscheiden sich also Harris und Heydrich:
Für Harris wurde in London ein Denkmal errichtet.

Werner


On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 11:19:36 +0100, in de.soc.politik.misc Werner Schneider
 wrote:

Nein.

Begründung:

1) Harris wollte soviele Deutsche wie möglich umbringen
lassen, Heydrich soviele Juden wie möglich.

2) Heydrich wollte natürlich auch die jüdische Kultur mit
allem, was dazu gehört, beseitigen. Harris liess bevorzugt
deutsche Innenstädte bombardieren, um soviel deutsche Kultur
wie möglich zu zerstören.

3) Grossbritannien führte gegen das Deutsche Reich einen
selbst erklärten Krieg, dessen Bestandteil "Luftkrieg" mit
grösstmöglicher Grausamkeit geführt wurde. Auch jeder deutsche
Zivilist war Angriffsziel. Für die Nazis waren die Juden
schlechthin Angriffsziel. Es fehlte bei beiden jegliche
Differenzierung nach gut und schlecht, nach erlaubt und
nicht erlaubt. Erlaubt war alles. Sowohl hier wie da.

4) Die Briten gaben und geben vor, gegen ein Verbrecher-
Regime zu kämpfen bzw. gekämpft zu haben und nutzen dieses
Argument als Begründung für ihre brutale Luftkriegsführung.
Es zieht allerdings nicht. Wie kann man 500.000 Zivilisten
töten und sich dann die Hände in Unschuld waschen? Auch
den 500.000 wurde ein Holocaust bereitet. Wenn Harris
gekonnt hätte, wären ihm auch 6 Millionen Recht gewesen.

5) Verbrechen sind Verbrechen, egal, wie man sie begründet.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

6) Worin unterscheiden sich also Harris und Heydrich:
Für Harris wurde in London ein Denkmal errichtet.

Werner


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From: Matthias Kern 
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No wonder the filthy  ZYDS are so hated worldwide.

On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:44:15 -0400, in alt.politics.nationalism.white "Whip"
 wrote:

"JEWISH RITUAL MURDERS" IN RUSSIA
FIVE CHILDREN FOUND DEAD IN PIT; BLOOD DRAINED FROM BODIES!
CORPSES WERE SET ON FIRE TO HIDE BLOOD DRAINING

On April 16, 2005, just a week before the beginning the the Jewish Passover 
on April 23, five children, Muslim and Christian, "disappeared" in the 
Russian Siberian city of Krasnoyarsk.  their burnt bodies have been found in 
a sewage pit.

A popular Russian daily, Komsomolskaya Pravda, writes today that many 
Russians in the city are convinced that the children were ritually murdered 
by local Jews who later burnt their bodies to conceal the crime and prevent 
experts to find in the bodies the lack of blood which is used by Hasidic 
Jews for ritual purposes.

Few people in the city believe that the Jewish murderers ever come to trial 
and that the murders would be properly clarified by police investigaters in 
present-day new democratic Russia.

Vladimir Salamatov, the lawyer representing the interests of the parents of 
the murdered children told the paper that 5 independent experts confirmed 
the lack of hemoglobine (red substance in human blood) in all burnt bodies.

"I am sure that it was a ritual murder with exsanguination", he said.

Evgeny Kazantsev, the Head of Untraditional Religious Groups Monitoring 
Center, agrees that it was a ritual murder.

A Moscow independent researcher and journalist, Mikhail Nazarov, stresses 
that there is a large Jewish community in Krasnoyarsk and that the 
authorities do their best to conceal this ritual murder committed by the 
Jews. A witness reported seeing the bodies of the children thrown intact in 
the pit as proscribed by the Jewish ritual and then somebody burnt then to 
conceal ritual wounds in specific places of the bodies made for the 
exsanguination, Mr nazarov said.

The researcher reminded of a well-known case of the ritual murder of a 
10-year-old Christian child, Andyusha Yushchinsky in Kiev in 1913. A local 
Jewish community activist, Beilis, was arrested and accused of the murder 
and later released by a court because of insufficient evidence, with a minor 
overweight among the jury.

"The murder of Andryusha Yushchinsky also took place few day before the 
Jewish Passover, his body was also exsanguinated and thrown off without 
burial", Mr Nazarov said.

"And Beilis belonged to the same Lubavichi Hasidic branch of Judaism as the 
present Chief Rabbi of Russia Berl Lazar who ... copies American gangstes 
practises (he was born in the US) and acts with support of Jewish oligarchs, 
the Kransnoyarsk Chief Rabbi Wagner and the Jewish Governor of the 
Krasnoyarsk Territory Khloponin", Mr. Nazarov added in his interview with 
the Moscow paper.

http://krsk.kp.ru/2006/09/20/doc137434/ 

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
John Bryant

TOLERANCE is a virtue of a man WITHOUT convictions.
G. K. Chesterton.


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
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ZYD Ritual Murder of Children/Ritual Morder der Kinder - Well Documented
No wonder  good Christian people really dislike the  ZYD Christkillers for
more than 2000 years!

On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:44:15 -0400, in alt.politics.nationalism.white "Whip"
 wrote:

"JEWISH RITUAL MURDERS" IN RUSSIA
FIVE CHILDREN FOUND DEAD IN PIT; 
BLOOD DRAINED FROM BODIES!
CORPSES WERE SET ON FIRE TO HIDE BLOOD DRAINING

On April 16, 2005, just a week before the beginning the the Jewish Passover 
on April 23, five children, Muslim and Christian, "disappeared" in the 
Russian Siberian city of Krasnoyarsk.  Their burnt bodies have been found in 
a sewage pit.

A popular Russian daily, Komsomolskaya Pravda, writes today that many 
Russians in the city are convinced that the children were ritually murdered 
by local Jews who later burnt their bodies to conceal the crime and prevent 
experts to find in the bodies the lack of blood which is used by Hasidic 
Jews for ritual purposes.

Few people in the city believe that the Jewish murderers ever come to trial 
and that the murders would be properly clarified by police investigaters in 
present-day new democratic Russia.

Vladimir Salamatov, the lawyer representing the interests of the parents of 
the murdered children told the paper that 5 independent experts confirmed 
the lack of hemoglobine (red substance in human blood) in all burnt bodies.

"I am sure that it was a ritual murder with exsanguination", he said.

Evgeny Kazantsev, the Head of Untraditional Religious Groups Monitoring 
Center, agrees that it was a ritual murder.

A Moscow independent researcher and journalist, Mikhail Nazarov, stresses 
that there is a large Jewish community in Krasnoyarsk and that the 
authorities do their best to conceal this ritual murder committed by the 
Jews. A witness reported seeing the bodies of the children thrown intact in 
the pit as proscribed by the Jewish ritual and then somebody burnt then to 
conceal ritual wounds in specific places of the bodies made for the 
exsanguination, Mr nazarov said.

The researcher reminded of a well-known case of the ritual murder of a 
10-year-old Christian child, Andyusha Yushchinsky in Kiev in 1913. A local 
Jewish community activist, Beilis, was arrested and accused of the murder 
and later released by a court because of insufficient evidence, with a minor 
overweight among the jury.

"The murder of Andryusha Yushchinsky also took place few day before the 
Jewish Passover, his body was also exsanguinated and thrown off without 
burial", Mr Nazarov said.

"And Beilis belonged to the same Lubavichi Hasidic branch of Judaism as the 
present Chief Rabbi of Russia Berl Lazar who ... copies American gangstes 
practises (he was born in the US) and acts with support of Jewish oligarchs, 
the Kransnoyarsk Chief Rabbi Wagner and the Jewish Governor of the 
Krasnoyarsk Territory Khloponin", Mr. Nazarov added in his interview with 
the Moscow paper.

http://krsk.kp.ru/2006/09/20/doc137434/ 


On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 18:06:27 -0600, Frank Arthur  wrote:

>A well researched and documented article,deserving re-posting worldwide.

>On 4 Apr 2007 21:01:42 -0700, in alt.politics.nationalism.white "dsfkfnir
>lfdsjsafd"  wrote:

>BIBLIOGRAPHY OF WORKS SUPPORTING
>THE BLOOD ACCUSATION.

>Acta Sanctorum. This is the work of the Bollandists, who were a band
>of Jesuits devoting themselves to historical record between 1643 and
>1883. The volumes in which they recorded various ritual murders by
>Jews are mainly those written in the seventeenth century.

> Histoire Universelle de l'Englise Catholique, by Abbe Rohrbacher
>(Gaume et Freres, 1845).

> Lives of the Saints, by Alban Butler.

> Dizionario Ecclesiastico, Vol. 64-66 (Semenario Peo-scire, Venice,
>1853-4).

> Annales Ecclesiastici, ab 1198, p. 568, by O. Raynaldus, 1753. These
>two deal with the case of St. Simon of Trent.

> Catholic Bulletin, August, 1916 (published at Dublin, M. H. Gill &
>Sons).

> Cahiers Romains, Catholic publication in Rome, 29th November, 1913.

> Acts and Monuments of the Church, by John Foxe, 1563.

> A Short Demurrer to the Jewes long discontinued Remitter into
>England, by William Prynne, 1656.

> Les Juifs devant l'Eglise et l' Histoire, by Rev. Father Constant.

> Meine Antworten an die Rabbiner: Funf Briefe uber den Talmudismus und
>das Blut-Ritual der Juden, by August Rohling (1883), Canon of Prague
>Cathedral.

> La France Juive, by Edouard Drumont. Obtainable from M. Petit, 12 rue
>Laugier, Paris 17. 70 francs.

> Le Juif, le Judaisme et la Judaisation des Peuples Chretiens, by
>Gougenot des Mousseaux, Chevalier, 1886. The whole of Chapter VI is
>devoted to Ritual Murders.

> Le Mystère du Sang chez les Juifs de tous les Temps, by Henri
>Desportes, 1889 (Savine).

> Le Crime Rituel chez les Juifs, by A. Monniot, 1914. Obtainable from
>M. Petit, 12 rue Laugier, Paris 17. 10 francs. An excellent general
>guide to the whole subject, with preface by Edouard Drumont. It was
>Drumont who exposed the Jewish Panama scandals.

> Der Ritual Mord bei den Juden, by Eugen Brandt.

> Ritual Morde, by Ottokar Stauf von der March (Hammer Verlag).

> Judische Moral und Blut Mysterium, by A. Fern, 1927.

> Der Ritual Mord, by G. Utikal. This book is recommended by the Reich
>Office for the Promotion of German Literature as "a truly national
>representation of Jewish Ritual Murder."

> Das Blut in Judischen Schriftum, by Dr. Bischoff, 1929.

> Der Stürmer, Special Ritual Murder Issue, dated May, 1934, Nuremburg.
>The reader should not be prejudiced by the Jewish campaign of hate
>against the editor of Der Stürmer. The Ritual Murder issue is a
>valuable historical record.

> The Jew, the Gypsy, and El Islam, by Sir Richard Burton, edited by W.
>H. Wilkins (Hutchinson, 1898).

> Isabella of Spain, by W. T. Walsh, 1931 (Sheed & Ward), pp. 125,
>439-468, and 628.
>References to other authorities in particular cases of Ritual Murder
>are made in the text when describing these cases.

>To the above list should be added a recent work intended to clear the
>Jews from the Blood Accusation, but which, at least in my own opinion,
>appears to support it: -- The Ritual Murder Libel and the Jews, by C.
>Roth (Woburn Press, 1935)



For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

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From MatthiasKern@hotmail.com Thu Dec 20 14:20:19 EST 2007
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Subject: ZYD KOLLABORACI WITH NAZIS - KASTNER, RUMKOWSKI, WIESENTHAL=51 More Cases
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Read, and then repost
No wonder honest people mistrust the Christkiller ZYDS!

From: The Truth Seeker 

51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis.
[Not forgetting KASTNER, RUMKOWSKI and WIESENTHAL]

By Lenni Brenner

Lenni Brenner has collated documents that relate to how the Zionist movement
collaborated with German Nazism and Italian Fascism. Given the subsequent
Holocaust against the Jews by the Nazis, many will be surprised and appalled
that a political movement, which supposedly supported Jewish liberation, was
prepared to collaborate with the most anti-semitic of regimes.

Among the documents is the relatively well known and infamous ŒStern Gang
Proposal¹ in which the organisation of future Israeli PM Yitzhak Shamir offers
to join in WWII on Œthe side of the German Reich¹. There is also the
embarrassing documents of the German Zionists who saw the Nazis as fellow
nationalists and were thus sympathetic to ŒGerman national renewal¹, the
memoirs of an SS officer who stays in Palestine as the guest of the Zionist
movement for 6 months.

These acts of collaboration were not limited to the right wing fringe of the
Zionist movement but went to the heart of the Zionist Labour establishment
when the head of the Haganah, Feival Polkes, became a willing paid informer of
the Gestapo. He was even handled by one of the architects of the Final
Solution, Adolf Eichmann, who also travelled to Palestine to liaise with the
Zionists.

These shocking historical documents will make you realise that the history of
the political movement which founded the state of Israel is not quite what it
seems.

They also prove that Zionists will do *anything* to protect their precious
political movement, even if it means sacrificing several million Jews in the
process, then exploiting their suffering to secure the greater goal of a
Zionist State.

The Truth Seeker has spoken.


On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 11:08:04 -0700, Ken McVayAIDS/SOB  wrote:
>Reply-To: "George" ,
>PRAWDA!
>
>On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:14:47 -0700, Heinrich Himmelfarb
> wrote:
>
>>The story documented below means that the KASTNER CASE was not an
>>isolated incident!!
>
>Now even Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to be a Nazi GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!
>
>
>>On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:25:52 GMT, c@c.cc wrote:
>>> 51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis  
>
>>>September 2004, page 86 
>
>>>Book Review
>
>>>51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis
>>>By Lenni Brenner, ed. Barricade Books, 2002, 342 pp. List: $22; AET:
>>>$15.
>
>>>Reviewed by Sara Powell
>>>It’s no secret that Zionism embraced political expediency to advance
>>>the cause of carving Eretz-Israel from the land of its native
>>>inhabitants. In his 1983 book, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators,
>>>Lenni Brenner shows that 20th century Zionists observed shockingly few
>>>limits to that expediency. Not surprisingly, the book received little
>>>coverage in the American media. Now, in 51 Documents, Brenner has
>>>compiled a wide variety of letters, statements, articles, and
>>>judgements—some of which appeared in his earlier book—by a broad array
>>>of activists and authors, that documents Zionist cooperration with the
>>>Nazis. On the face of it, the notion seems absurd. However, Brenner
>>>presents the case—made in many Zionists’ own words—that the Nazi
>>>agenda of expelling the Jews from Germany fit nicely with the Zionist
>>>plan for enticing those Jews into settling in Palestine and creating a
>>>new Jewish nation. 
>>>
>>>In addition to introductory and concluding chapters, the book is
>>>organized into five sections which lead the reader through early,
>>>pre-Zionist documents; pre-Holocaust ideological factions; the
>>>Holocaust era itself; and a chapter on the Stern Gang and the Nazis.
>>>Readers should note that a few documents are not indicative of
>>>collaboration in and of themselves, but provide the background to
>>>others written in response. These latter do indicate levels of
>>>collaboration between Zionists and fascists, both the Nazis in
>>>Germany, and those in Mussolini’s Italy. Brenner’s brief explanatory
>>>notes at the beginning of each document are helpful, as are the
>>>glossary and index.
>>>
>>>51 Documents assumes a certain knowledge of Zionist history, and
>>>requires a close reading and some deconstructive efforts on the part
>>>of the reader. Those willing to commit the time and effort, however,
>>>are rewarded with some stunning revelations. The reason some Zionists
>>>eschewed the boycott against Hitler’s Germany, for instance, is that
>>>they had a financial deal—Ha’avara—with Germany allowing Jews to
>>>exchange their wealth for goods to be exported to Palestine at less of
>>>a loss, as an incentive to emigrate. Those wondering why Zionists
>>>today are so organized and experienced in their public relations
>>>efforts discover that these battles have been fought before. Moreover,
>>>the section on Nazi and Zionist understandings of “nationality” versus
>>>citizenship reveals how German and Israeli practices are based on the
>>>same concept. 
>>>
>>>51 Documents also sheds a whole new light on the term “Holocaust
>>>guilt,” frequently understood to mean Western, non-Jewish guilt for
>>>not acting against the Holocaust earlier. However, these documents
>>>make it clear that Holocaust guilt began with those Zionists who made
>>>the undoubtedly difficult, but politically expedient choice to place
>>>Eretz-Israel at the top of their priorities, above the lives of their
>>>threatened European brethren.
>>>
>>>From a Zionist Executive Meeting speech by Yitzhak Gruenbaum on Feb.
>>>18, 1943:
>>>
>>>And when some asked me: “Can’t you give money from Keren Ha Yesod
>>>(Palestine Foundation Fund) to save Jews in the Diaspora?” I said:
>>>“No!” And again I say no....And, because of these things, people
>>>called me an anti-Semite, and concluded that I’m guilty, for the fact
>>>that we don’t give ourselves completely to rescue actions. (p. 211)
>>>
>>>However difficult it may be, the reader must confront some rather
>>>disturbing conclusions. The most unsettling realization for this
>>>reviewer is that pre-Holocaust Zionists were able to politically align
>>>themselves with the Nazis because both groups fundamentally saw race
>>>as an important dividing line—and, moreover, were determined to keep
>>>it that way. From Vladimir Jabotinsky to Albert Einstein,
>>>“assimilation” of Jews into the societies in which they lived was not
>>>an acceptable option. Rather, Jewish nationalism required equality on
>>>a national level, not a personal one. As Jabotinsky explained, “It is
>>>impossible for a man to become assimilated with people whose blood is
>>>different from his own” (p. 10); in Einstein’s words, “Palestine is
>>>first and foremost not a refuge for East European Jews, but the
>>>incarnation of a reawakening sense of national solidarity” (p. 29).
>>>Finally, David Yisraeli, a member of the Stern Gang, wrote the
>>>following in late 1940, as part of a proposal to Hitler. It was
>>>delivered in 1941 to two German diplomats in Lebanon.
>>>
>>>3. The establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and
>>>totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would be
>>>in the interest of a maintained and strengthened future German
>>>position of power in the Near East (p. 301).
>>>
>>>Such beliefs, of course, were not limited to Nazis and Zionists.
>>>Scientific and philosophical constructs of the day considered such
>>>differentiation legitimate, and ideas of racial difference—and,
>>>therefore, racial supremacy—were practiced around the world.
>>>
>>>Another disturbing conclusion a reader must inevitably face is that
>>>Zionists learned both tactical and political lessons from the Nazis
>>>and that, even today, these lessons are applied to further the Zionist
>>>cause. Although most likely known to potential readers of this book,
>>>another disturbing element is the cover-up of the less than savory
>>>roles of current Israeli leaders, including former prime ministers, in
>>>the terrorist Irgun and Stern Gang just before, during, and after the
>>>Holocaust. Likewise, the succumbing of various U.S. officials to
>>>Zionist pressure is a familiar, but distressing, story.
>>>
>>>51 Documents seems to represent a renewed attempt by Brenner to bring
>>>information regarding Zionist collaboration with the Nazis to U.S.
>>>supporters of Israel, as well as to Jews and Muslims, in order to
>>>expand dialogue with knowledge, and save lives—both Palestinian and
>>>Israeli—in the process. Readers of 51 Documents will find it difficult
>>>not to remove the rose colored glasses that so many seem to wear when
>>>examining Zionism.
>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
>is a revolutionary act." 
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages. 
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant
>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
>is a revolutionary act." 
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages. 
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant
>
>
>Posted by: 
>Patrick Lee Humphrey
>7500 Bellerive #1807
>Houston, Texas 77036-3040
>1-713-266-7764
>
>Steven Horn (KCOM)
>1836 NW 11th St
>Oklahoma City, OK 73106
>(405) 524-0576
>
>together with
>Boris Dynin  = NAMBLA executive & 
>Henry 
>CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even 
>VISIT me at:
>55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco  94132
>
>We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>
>
>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>office: VISIT at:
>#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>or call: 1-250-616-9431
>
>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
>called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
>should give an indication as to the why.
>
>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>
>Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked"?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>
>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
>to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>
>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late
>nights.
>
>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
>send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>work:(780)492-0473
>
>And also: George Firestone: "George" 
>
>Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!
>
>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com
>
>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>IHR - www.ihr.org
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
>
>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>
>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>
>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>
>In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>for many years around the world.


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ZYDS Complain About Pope Meeting Rydzyk

From: "Adam R. Tomaszewski" 
ZYD leaders decry Rydzyk meeting Pope - Why?
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 17:13:12 EDT

mam nadzieje ze tym razem sciepowe moski nie beda  kwiczec,   bo po 
pierwsze, artykul jest z JPost a nie z Haaretz,   a po drugie, to , to,  ze 
ten  artyklul z pewnosci im sie spodoba!!
Immer die verfluechte ZYDS for the past 2000 years.!


The Vatican scrambled Thursday to assure Jewish organizations that Pope 
Benedict XVI's Sunday meeting with an anti-Semitic Polish priest "did not 
imply any change in the Holy See's well-known position regarding relations 
between Catholics and Jews," as the Vatican said in a statement.

The statement came after Jewish leaders worldwide expressed outrage at the 
meeting, which followed close on the heels of new reports of anti-Semitic 
statements by Father Tadeusz Rydzyk.

Senior Israeli diplomatic officials told The Jerusalem Post on Saturday they 
were angered by the Polish government's lack of response over the most 
recent incident in which the charismatic Rydzyk, whose nationalist Radio 
Maryja is said to have some 1.5 million daily listeners, is heard 
complaining in an audio recording about Jews' greed and control over Polish 
President Lech Kaczynski.

Early last month, the popular Polish weekly Wprost said it had an April tape 
recording of Rydzyk speaking about a meeting with Kaczynski in which they 
discussed Holocaust property restitution.

According to Wprost, Rydzyk was heard in the recording saying: 'You know 
what this is about: Poland giving [the Jews] $65 billion. They will come to 
you and say, 'Give me your coat! Take off your trousers! Give me your 
shoes!"

Rydzyk has claimed the tapes were tampered with, saying he "didn't intend to 
offend anyone" and was a victim of "media manipulation." Polish authorities 
in the city of Torun are analyzing the recording to determine the accuracy 
of the reports.

"The most obvious thing that any charitable Jew would assume is that [the 
pope] met with [Rydzyk] to tell him off," said Rabbi David Rosen, director 
of interreligious affairs at the American Jewish Committee and a member of 
the commission that negotiated the relations between Israel and the Vatican 
when the Vatican first recognized Israel in 1993.

"I very much hope that's what he did," Rosen added, "since it would be very 
disturbing and totally out of character with Pope Benedict and his 
commitment to fighting anti-Semitism and promoting Catholic-Jewish relations 
for him not to hit [Rydzyk] on the head."

Dieter Graumann, vice-president of the Zentralrat, the Central Council of 
Jews in Germany, told Spiegel Online on Thursday the meeting was "outrageous 
and appalling. One would expect more sensitivity, particularly from a German 
pope. One would expect the Vatican to clearly distance itself from Rydzyk 
and 'Radio Race-Hate.' Instead, they are lending it an appearance of 
legitimacy. It is a disastrous mistake from someone in a very important 
position, and the Vatican should act swiftly to correct the error."

The responses from American Jewry were similar. The Simon Wiesenthal 
Center's Rabbi Marvin Hier said he hoped the pope used the meeting to rebuke 
Rydzyk. "Otherwise, I'm afraid the Vatican would be sullying its reputation 
by granting legitimacy to an unrepentant bigot who will claim that rather 
than being admonished, he was honored to receive the Pope's blessing."

Rydzyk's radio station has hosted anti-Semites and Holocaust deniers, 
according to the center.
The ADL's Abraham Foxman wrote to the pope: "You have unfortunately lent 
[Rydzyk] the priceless credibility of your office and integrity in the eyes 
of the world," and "we respectfully request that you publicly condemn the 
anti-Semitism that is being spouted by Father Rydzyk and other Catholic 
leaders in Poland."

In two weeks, Polish bishops are scheduled to meet in Czestochowa, where 
Rydzyk's alleged comments will be on the agenda.

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website 
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION 
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - 
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the 
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


Reply-To: Frank Arthur , 
or to Steve Horn ,
Ariadne@mac.hush.com, or Ariadne.mac@gmail.com
Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, 
homosexuals and the like.


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Read, and then repost
No wonder honest people mistrust the Christkiller ZYDS!

From: The Truth Seeker 

51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis.
[Not forgetting KASTNER, RUMKOWSKI and WIESENTHAL]

By Lenni Brenner

Lenni Brenner has collated documents that relate to how the Zionist movement
collaborated with German Nazism and Italian Fascism. Given the subsequent
Holocaust against the Jews by the Nazis, many will be surprised and appalled
that a political movement, which supposedly supported Jewish liberation, was
prepared to collaborate with the most anti-semitic of regimes.

Among the documents is the relatively well known and infamous ŒStern Gang
Proposal¹ in which the organisation of future Israeli PM Yitzhak Shamir offers
to join in WWII on Œthe side of the German Reich¹. There is also the
embarrassing documents of the German Zionists who saw the Nazis as fellow
nationalists and were thus sympathetic to ŒGerman national renewal¹, the
memoirs of an SS officer who stays in Palestine as the guest of the Zionist
movement for 6 months.

These acts of collaboration were not limited to the right wing fringe of the
Zionist movement but went to the heart of the Zionist Labour establishment
when the head of the Haganah, Feival Polkes, became a willing paid informer of
the Gestapo. He was even handled by one of the architects of the Final
Solution, Adolf Eichmann, who also travelled to Palestine to liaise with the
Zionists.

These shocking historical documents will make you realise that the history of
the political movement which founded the state of Israel is not quite what it
seems.

They also prove that Zionists will do *anything* to protect their precious
political movement, even if it means sacrificing several million Jews in the
process, then exploiting their suffering to secure the greater goal of a
Zionist State.

The Truth Seeker has spoken.


On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 11:08:04 -0700, Ken McVayAIDS/SOB  wrote:
>Reply-To: "George" ,
>PRAWDA!
>
>On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:14:47 -0700, Heinrich Himmelfarb
> wrote:
>
>>The story documented below means that the KASTNER CASE was not an
>>isolated incident!!
>
>Now even Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to be a Nazi GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!
>
>
>>On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:25:52 GMT, c@c.cc wrote:
>>> 51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis  
>
>>>September 2004, page 86 
>
>>>Book Review
>
>>>51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis
>>>By Lenni Brenner, ed. Barricade Books, 2002, 342 pp. List: $22; AET:
>>>$15.
>
>>>Reviewed by Sara Powell
>>>It’s no secret that Zionism embraced political expediency to advance
>>>the cause of carving Eretz-Israel from the land of its native
>>>inhabitants. In his 1983 book, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators,
>>>Lenni Brenner shows that 20th century Zionists observed shockingly few
>>>limits to that expediency. Not surprisingly, the book received little
>>>coverage in the American media. Now, in 51 Documents, Brenner has
>>>compiled a wide variety of letters, statements, articles, and
>>>judgements—some of which appeared in his earlier book—by a broad array
>>>of activists and authors, that documents Zionist cooperration with the
>>>Nazis. On the face of it, the notion seems absurd. However, Brenner
>>>presents the case—made in many Zionists’ own words—that the Nazi
>>>agenda of expelling the Jews from Germany fit nicely with the Zionist
>>>plan for enticing those Jews into settling in Palestine and creating a
>>>new Jewish nation. 
>>>
>>>In addition to introductory and concluding chapters, the book is
>>>organized into five sections which lead the reader through early,
>>>pre-Zionist documents; pre-Holocaust ideological factions; the
>>>Holocaust era itself; and a chapter on the Stern Gang and the Nazis.
>>>Readers should note that a few documents are not indicative of
>>>collaboration in and of themselves, but provide the background to
>>>others written in response. These latter do indicate levels of
>>>collaboration between Zionists and fascists, both the Nazis in
>>>Germany, and those in Mussolini’s Italy. Brenner’s brief explanatory
>>>notes at the beginning of each document are helpful, as are the
>>>glossary and index.
>>>
>>>51 Documents assumes a certain knowledge of Zionist history, and
>>>requires a close reading and some deconstructive efforts on the part
>>>of the reader. Those willing to commit the time and effort, however,
>>>are rewarded with some stunning revelations. The reason some Zionists
>>>eschewed the boycott against Hitler’s Germany, for instance, is that
>>>they had a financial deal—Ha’avara—with Germany allowing Jews to
>>>exchange their wealth for goods to be exported to Palestine at less of
>>>a loss, as an incentive to emigrate. Those wondering why Zionists
>>>today are so organized and experienced in their public relations
>>>efforts discover that these battles have been fought before. Moreover,
>>>the section on Nazi and Zionist understandings of “nationality” versus
>>>citizenship reveals how German and Israeli practices are based on the
>>>same concept. 
>>>
>>>51 Documents also sheds a whole new light on the term “Holocaust
>>>guilt,” frequently understood to mean Western, non-Jewish guilt for
>>>not acting against the Holocaust earlier. However, these documents
>>>make it clear that Holocaust guilt began with those Zionists who made
>>>the undoubtedly difficult, but politically expedient choice to place
>>>Eretz-Israel at the top of their priorities, above the lives of their
>>>threatened European brethren.
>>>
>>>From a Zionist Executive Meeting speech by Yitzhak Gruenbaum on Feb.
>>>18, 1943:
>>>
>>>And when some asked me: “Can’t you give money from Keren Ha Yesod
>>>(Palestine Foundation Fund) to save Jews in the Diaspora?” I said:
>>>“No!” And again I say no....And, because of these things, people
>>>called me an anti-Semite, and concluded that I’m guilty, for the fact
>>>that we don’t give ourselves completely to rescue actions. (p. 211)
>>>
>>>However difficult it may be, the reader must confront some rather
>>>disturbing conclusions. The most unsettling realization for this
>>>reviewer is that pre-Holocaust Zionists were able to politically align
>>>themselves with the Nazis because both groups fundamentally saw race
>>>as an important dividing line—and, moreover, were determined to keep
>>>it that way. From Vladimir Jabotinsky to Albert Einstein,
>>>“assimilation” of Jews into the societies in which they lived was not
>>>an acceptable option. Rather, Jewish nationalism required equality on
>>>a national level, not a personal one. As Jabotinsky explained, “It is
>>>impossible for a man to become assimilated with people whose blood is
>>>different from his own” (p. 10); in Einstein’s words, “Palestine is
>>>first and foremost not a refuge for East European Jews, but the
>>>incarnation of a reawakening sense of national solidarity” (p. 29).
>>>Finally, David Yisraeli, a member of the Stern Gang, wrote the
>>>following in late 1940, as part of a proposal to Hitler. It was
>>>delivered in 1941 to two German diplomats in Lebanon.
>>>
>>>3. The establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and
>>>totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would be
>>>in the interest of a maintained and strengthened future German
>>>position of power in the Near East (p. 301).
>>>
>>>Such beliefs, of course, were not limited to Nazis and Zionists.
>>>Scientific and philosophical constructs of the day considered such
>>>differentiation legitimate, and ideas of racial difference—and,
>>>therefore, racial supremacy—were practiced around the world.
>>>
>>>Another disturbing conclusion a reader must inevitably face is that
>>>Zionists learned both tactical and political lessons from the Nazis
>>>and that, even today, these lessons are applied to further the Zionist
>>>cause. Although most likely known to potential readers of this book,
>>>another disturbing element is the cover-up of the less than savory
>>>roles of current Israeli leaders, including former prime ministers, in
>>>the terrorist Irgun and Stern Gang just before, during, and after the
>>>Holocaust. Likewise, the succumbing of various U.S. officials to
>>>Zionist pressure is a familiar, but distressing, story.
>>>
>>>51 Documents seems to represent a renewed attempt by Brenner to bring
>>>information regarding Zionist collaboration with the Nazis to U.S.
>>>supporters of Israel, as well as to Jews and Muslims, in order to
>>>expand dialogue with knowledge, and save lives—both Palestinian and
>>>Israeli—in the process. Readers of 51 Documents will find it difficult
>>>not to remove the rose colored glasses that so many seem to wear when
>>>examining Zionism.
>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
>is a revolutionary act." 
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages. 
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant
>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
>is a revolutionary act." 
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages. 
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant
>
>
>Posted by: 
>Patrick Lee Humphrey
>7500 Bellerive #1807
>Houston, Texas 77036-3040
>1-713-266-7764
>
>Steven Horn (KCOM)
>1836 NW 11th St
>Oklahoma City, OK 73106
>(405) 524-0576
>
>together with
>Boris Dynin  = NAMBLA executive & 
>Henry 
>CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even 
>VISIT me at:
>55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco  94132
>
>We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>
>
>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>office: VISIT at:
>#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>or call: 1-250-616-9431
>
>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
>called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
>should give an indication as to the why.
>
>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>
>Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked"?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>
>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
>to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>
>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late
>nights.
>
>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
>send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>work:(780)492-0473
>
>And also: George Firestone: "George" 
>
>Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!
>
>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com
>
>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>IHR - www.ihr.org
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
>
>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>
>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>
>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>
>In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>for many years around the world.


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From: The Truth Seeker 

51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis.
[Not forgetting KASTNER, RUMKOWSKI and WIESENTHAL]

By Lenni Brenner

Lenni Brenner has collated documents that relate to how the Zionist movement
collaborated with German Nazism and Italian Fascism. Given the subsequent
Holocaust against the Jews by the Nazis, many will be surprised and appalled
that a political movement, which supposedly supported Jewish liberation, was
prepared to collaborate with the most anti-semitic of regimes.

Among the documents is the relatively well known and infamous ŒStern Gang
Proposal¹ in which the organisation of future Israeli PM Yitzhak Shamir offers
to join in WWII on Œthe side of the German Reich¹. There is also the
embarrassing documents of the German Zionists who saw the Nazis as fellow
nationalists and were thus sympathetic to ŒGerman national renewal¹, the
memoirs of an SS officer who stays in Palestine as the guest of the Zionist
movement for 6 months.

These acts of collaboration were not limited to the right wing fringe of the
Zionist movement but went to the heart of the Zionist Labour establishment
when the head of the Haganah, Feival Polkes, became a willing paid informer of
the Gestapo. He was even handled by one of the architects of the Final
Solution, Adolf Eichmann, who also travelled to Palestine to liaise with the
Zionists.

These shocking historical documents will make you realise that the history of
the political movement which founded the state of Israel is not quite what it
seems.

They also prove that Zionists will do *anything* to protect their precious
political movement, even if it means sacrificing several million Jews in the
process, then exploiting their suffering to secure the greater goal of a
Zionist State.

The Truth Seeker has spoken.


On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 11:08:04 -0700, Ken McVayAIDS/SOB  wrote:
>Reply-To: "George" ,
>PRAWDA!
>
>On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:14:47 -0700, Heinrich Himmelfarb
> wrote:
>
>>The story documented below means that the KASTNER CASE was not an
>>isolated incident!!
>
>Now even Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to be a Nazi GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!
>
>
>>On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:25:52 GMT, c@c.cc wrote:
>>> 51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis  
>
>>>September 2004, page 86 
>
>>>Book Review
>
>>>51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis
>>>By Lenni Brenner, ed. Barricade Books, 2002, 342 pp. List: $22; AET:
>>>$15.
>
>>>Reviewed by Sara Powell
>>>It’s no secret that Zionism embraced political expediency to advance
>>>the cause of carving Eretz-Israel from the land of its native
>>>inhabitants. In his 1983 book, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators,
>>>Lenni Brenner shows that 20th century Zionists observed shockingly few
>>>limits to that expediency. Not surprisingly, the book received little
>>>coverage in the American media. Now, in 51 Documents, Brenner has
>>>compiled a wide variety of letters, statements, articles, and
>>>judgements—some of which appeared in his earlier book—by a broad array
>>>of activists and authors, that documents Zionist cooperration with the
>>>Nazis. On the face of it, the notion seems absurd. However, Brenner
>>>presents the case—made in many Zionists’ own words—that the Nazi
>>>agenda of expelling the Jews from Germany fit nicely with the Zionist
>>>plan for enticing those Jews into settling in Palestine and creating a
>>>new Jewish nation. 
>>>
>>>In addition to introductory and concluding chapters, the book is
>>>organized into five sections which lead the reader through early,
>>>pre-Zionist documents; pre-Holocaust ideological factions; the
>>>Holocaust era itself; and a chapter on the Stern Gang and the Nazis.
>>>Readers should note that a few documents are not indicative of
>>>collaboration in and of themselves, but provide the background to
>>>others written in response. These latter do indicate levels of
>>>collaboration between Zionists and fascists, both the Nazis in
>>>Germany, and those in Mussolini’s Italy. Brenner’s brief explanatory
>>>notes at the beginning of each document are helpful, as are the
>>>glossary and index.
>>>
>>>51 Documents assumes a certain knowledge of Zionist history, and
>>>requires a close reading and some deconstructive efforts on the part
>>>of the reader. Those willing to commit the time and effort, however,
>>>are rewarded with some stunning revelations. The reason some Zionists
>>>eschewed the boycott against Hitler’s Germany, for instance, is that
>>>they had a financial deal—Ha’avara—with Germany allowing Jews to
>>>exchange their wealth for goods to be exported to Palestine at less of
>>>a loss, as an incentive to emigrate. Those wondering why Zionists
>>>today are so organized and experienced in their public relations
>>>efforts discover that these battles have been fought before. Moreover,
>>>the section on Nazi and Zionist understandings of “nationality” versus
>>>citizenship reveals how German and Israeli practices are based on the
>>>same concept. 
>>>
>>>51 Documents also sheds a whole new light on the term “Holocaust
>>>guilt,” frequently understood to mean Western, non-Jewish guilt for
>>>not acting against the Holocaust earlier. However, these documents
>>>make it clear that Holocaust guilt began with those Zionists who made
>>>the undoubtedly difficult, but politically expedient choice to place
>>>Eretz-Israel at the top of their priorities, above the lives of their
>>>threatened European brethren.
>>>
>>>From a Zionist Executive Meeting speech by Yitzhak Gruenbaum on Feb.
>>>18, 1943:
>>>
>>>And when some asked me: “Can’t you give money from Keren Ha Yesod
>>>(Palestine Foundation Fund) to save Jews in the Diaspora?” I said:
>>>“No!” And again I say no....And, because of these things, people
>>>called me an anti-Semite, and concluded that I’m guilty, for the fact
>>>that we don’t give ourselves completely to rescue actions. (p. 211)
>>>
>>>However difficult it may be, the reader must confront some rather
>>>disturbing conclusions. The most unsettling realization for this
>>>reviewer is that pre-Holocaust Zionists were able to politically align
>>>themselves with the Nazis because both groups fundamentally saw race
>>>as an important dividing line—and, moreover, were determined to keep
>>>it that way. From Vladimir Jabotinsky to Albert Einstein,
>>>“assimilation” of Jews into the societies in which they lived was not
>>>an acceptable option. Rather, Jewish nationalism required equality on
>>>a national level, not a personal one. As Jabotinsky explained, “It is
>>>impossible for a man to become assimilated with people whose blood is
>>>different from his own” (p. 10); in Einstein’s words, “Palestine is
>>>first and foremost not a refuge for East European Jews, but the
>>>incarnation of a reawakening sense of national solidarity” (p. 29).
>>>Finally, David Yisraeli, a member of the Stern Gang, wrote the
>>>following in late 1940, as part of a proposal to Hitler. It was
>>>delivered in 1941 to two German diplomats in Lebanon.
>>>
>>>3. The establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and
>>>totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would be
>>>in the interest of a maintained and strengthened future German
>>>position of power in the Near East (p. 301).
>>>
>>>Such beliefs, of course, were not limited to Nazis and Zionists.
>>>Scientific and philosophical constructs of the day considered such
>>>differentiation legitimate, and ideas of racial difference—and,
>>>therefore, racial supremacy—were practiced around the world.
>>>
>>>Another disturbing conclusion a reader must inevitably face is that
>>>Zionists learned both tactical and political lessons from the Nazis
>>>and that, even today, these lessons are applied to further the Zionist
>>>cause. Although most likely known to potential readers of this book,
>>>another disturbing element is the cover-up of the less than savory
>>>roles of current Israeli leaders, including former prime ministers, in
>>>the terrorist Irgun and Stern Gang just before, during, and after the
>>>Holocaust. Likewise, the succumbing of various U.S. officials to
>>>Zionist pressure is a familiar, but distressing, story.
>>>
>>>51 Documents seems to represent a renewed attempt by Brenner to bring
>>>information regarding Zionist collaboration with the Nazis to U.S.
>>>supporters of Israel, as well as to Jews and Muslims, in order to
>>>expand dialogue with knowledge, and save lives—both Palestinian and
>>>Israeli—in the process. Readers of 51 Documents will find it difficult
>>>not to remove the rose colored glasses that so many seem to wear when
>>>examining Zionism.
>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
>is a revolutionary act." 
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages. 
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant
>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
>is a revolutionary act." 
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages. 
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant
>
>
>Posted by: 
>Patrick Lee Humphrey
>7500 Bellerive #1807
>Houston, Texas 77036-3040
>1-713-266-7764
>
>Steven Horn (KCOM)
>1836 NW 11th St
>Oklahoma City, OK 73106
>(405) 524-0576
>
>together with
>Boris Dynin  = NAMBLA executive & 
>Henry 
>CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even 
>VISIT me at:
>55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco  94132
>
>We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>
>
>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>office: VISIT at:
>#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>or call: 1-250-616-9431
>
>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
>called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
>should give an indication as to the why.
>
>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>
>Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked"?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>
>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
>to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>
>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late
>nights.
>
>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
>send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>work:(780)492-0473
>
>And also: George Firestone: "George" 
>
>Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!
>
>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com
>
>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>IHR - www.ihr.org
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
>
>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>
>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>
>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>
>In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>for many years around the world.


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No wonder honest people mistrust the Christkiller ZYDS!

From: The Truth Seeker 

51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis.
[Not forgetting KASTNER, RUMKOWSKI and WIESENTHAL]

By Lenni Brenner

Lenni Brenner has collated documents that relate to how the Zionist movement
collaborated with German Nazism and Italian Fascism. Given the subsequent
Holocaust against the Jews by the Nazis, many will be surprised and appalled
that a political movement, which supposedly supported Jewish liberation, was
prepared to collaborate with the most anti-semitic of regimes.

Among the documents is the relatively well known and infamous ŒStern Gang
Proposal¹ in which the organisation of future Israeli PM Yitzhak Shamir offers
to join in WWII on Œthe side of the German Reich¹. There is also the
embarrassing documents of the German Zionists who saw the Nazis as fellow
nationalists and were thus sympathetic to ŒGerman national renewal¹, the
memoirs of an SS officer who stays in Palestine as the guest of the Zionist
movement for 6 months.

These acts of collaboration were not limited to the right wing fringe of the
Zionist movement but went to the heart of the Zionist Labour establishment
when the head of the Haganah, Feival Polkes, became a willing paid informer of
the Gestapo. He was even handled by one of the architects of the Final
Solution, Adolf Eichmann, who also travelled to Palestine to liaise with the
Zionists.

These shocking historical documents will make you realise that the history of
the political movement which founded the state of Israel is not quite what it
seems.

They also prove that Zionists will do *anything* to protect their precious
political movement, even if it means sacrificing several million Jews in the
process, then exploiting their suffering to secure the greater goal of a
Zionist State.

The Truth Seeker has spoken.


On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 11:08:04 -0700, Ken McVayAIDS/SOB  wrote:
>Reply-To: "George" ,
>PRAWDA!
>
>On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:14:47 -0700, Heinrich Himmelfarb
> wrote:
>
>>The story documented below means that the KASTNER CASE was not an
>>isolated incident!!
>
>Now even Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to be a Nazi GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!
>
>
>>On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:25:52 GMT, c@c.cc wrote:
>>> 51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis  
>
>>>September 2004, page 86 
>
>>>Book Review
>
>>>51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis
>>>By Lenni Brenner, ed. Barricade Books, 2002, 342 pp. List: $22; AET:
>>>$15.
>
>>>Reviewed by Sara Powell
>>>It’s no secret that Zionism embraced political expediency to advance
>>>the cause of carving Eretz-Israel from the land of its native
>>>inhabitants. In his 1983 book, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators,
>>>Lenni Brenner shows that 20th century Zionists observed shockingly few
>>>limits to that expediency. Not surprisingly, the book received little
>>>coverage in the American media. Now, in 51 Documents, Brenner has
>>>compiled a wide variety of letters, statements, articles, and
>>>judgements—some of which appeared in his earlier book—by a broad array
>>>of activists and authors, that documents Zionist cooperration with the
>>>Nazis. On the face of it, the notion seems absurd. However, Brenner
>>>presents the case—made in many Zionists’ own words—that the Nazi
>>>agenda of expelling the Jews from Germany fit nicely with the Zionist
>>>plan for enticing those Jews into settling in Palestine and creating a
>>>new Jewish nation. 
>>>
>>>In addition to introductory and concluding chapters, the book is
>>>organized into five sections which lead the reader through early,
>>>pre-Zionist documents; pre-Holocaust ideological factions; the
>>>Holocaust era itself; and a chapter on the Stern Gang and the Nazis.
>>>Readers should note that a few documents are not indicative of
>>>collaboration in and of themselves, but provide the background to
>>>others written in response. These latter do indicate levels of
>>>collaboration between Zionists and fascists, both the Nazis in
>>>Germany, and those in Mussolini’s Italy. Brenner’s brief explanatory
>>>notes at the beginning of each document are helpful, as are the
>>>glossary and index.
>>>
>>>51 Documents assumes a certain knowledge of Zionist history, and
>>>requires a close reading and some deconstructive efforts on the part
>>>of the reader. Those willing to commit the time and effort, however,
>>>are rewarded with some stunning revelations. The reason some Zionists
>>>eschewed the boycott against Hitler’s Germany, for instance, is that
>>>they had a financial deal—Ha’avara—with Germany allowing Jews to
>>>exchange their wealth for goods to be exported to Palestine at less of
>>>a loss, as an incentive to emigrate. Those wondering why Zionists
>>>today are so organized and experienced in their public relations
>>>efforts discover that these battles have been fought before. Moreover,
>>>the section on Nazi and Zionist understandings of “nationality” versus
>>>citizenship reveals how German and Israeli practices are based on the
>>>same concept. 
>>>
>>>51 Documents also sheds a whole new light on the term “Holocaust
>>>guilt,” frequently understood to mean Western, non-Jewish guilt for
>>>not acting against the Holocaust earlier. However, these documents
>>>make it clear that Holocaust guilt began with those Zionists who made
>>>the undoubtedly difficult, but politically expedient choice to place
>>>Eretz-Israel at the top of their priorities, above the lives of their
>>>threatened European brethren.
>>>
>>>From a Zionist Executive Meeting speech by Yitzhak Gruenbaum on Feb.
>>>18, 1943:
>>>
>>>And when some asked me: “Can’t you give money from Keren Ha Yesod
>>>(Palestine Foundation Fund) to save Jews in the Diaspora?” I said:
>>>“No!” And again I say no....And, because of these things, people
>>>called me an anti-Semite, and concluded that I’m guilty, for the fact
>>>that we don’t give ourselves completely to rescue actions. (p. 211)
>>>
>>>However difficult it may be, the reader must confront some rather
>>>disturbing conclusions. The most unsettling realization for this
>>>reviewer is that pre-Holocaust Zionists were able to politically align
>>>themselves with the Nazis because both groups fundamentally saw race
>>>as an important dividing line—and, moreover, were determined to keep
>>>it that way. From Vladimir Jabotinsky to Albert Einstein,
>>>“assimilation” of Jews into the societies in which they lived was not
>>>an acceptable option. Rather, Jewish nationalism required equality on
>>>a national level, not a personal one. As Jabotinsky explained, “It is
>>>impossible for a man to become assimilated with people whose blood is
>>>different from his own” (p. 10); in Einstein’s words, “Palestine is
>>>first and foremost not a refuge for East European Jews, but the
>>>incarnation of a reawakening sense of national solidarity” (p. 29).
>>>Finally, David Yisraeli, a member of the Stern Gang, wrote the
>>>following in late 1940, as part of a proposal to Hitler. It was
>>>delivered in 1941 to two German diplomats in Lebanon.
>>>
>>>3. The establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and
>>>totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would be
>>>in the interest of a maintained and strengthened future German
>>>position of power in the Near East (p. 301).
>>>
>>>Such beliefs, of course, were not limited to Nazis and Zionists.
>>>Scientific and philosophical constructs of the day considered such
>>>differentiation legitimate, and ideas of racial difference—and,
>>>therefore, racial supremacy—were practiced around the world.
>>>
>>>Another disturbing conclusion a reader must inevitably face is that
>>>Zionists learned both tactical and political lessons from the Nazis
>>>and that, even today, these lessons are applied to further the Zionist
>>>cause. Although most likely known to potential readers of this book,
>>>another disturbing element is the cover-up of the less than savory
>>>roles of current Israeli leaders, including former prime ministers, in
>>>the terrorist Irgun and Stern Gang just before, during, and after the
>>>Holocaust. Likewise, the succumbing of various U.S. officials to
>>>Zionist pressure is a familiar, but distressing, story.
>>>
>>>51 Documents seems to represent a renewed attempt by Brenner to bring
>>>information regarding Zionist collaboration with the Nazis to U.S.
>>>supporters of Israel, as well as to Jews and Muslims, in order to
>>>expand dialogue with knowledge, and save lives—both Palestinian and
>>>Israeli—in the process. Readers of 51 Documents will find it difficult
>>>not to remove the rose colored glasses that so many seem to wear when
>>>examining Zionism.
>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
>is a revolutionary act." 
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages. 
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant
>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
>is a revolutionary act." 
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages. 
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant
>
>
>Posted by: 
>Patrick Lee Humphrey
>7500 Bellerive #1807
>Houston, Texas 77036-3040
>1-713-266-7764
>
>Steven Horn (KCOM)
>1836 NW 11th St
>Oklahoma City, OK 73106
>(405) 524-0576
>
>together with
>Boris Dynin  = NAMBLA executive & 
>Henry 
>CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even 
>VISIT me at:
>55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco  94132
>
>We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>
>
>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>office: VISIT at:
>#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>or call: 1-250-616-9431
>
>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
>called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
>should give an indication as to the why.
>
>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>
>Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked"?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>
>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
>to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>
>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late
>nights.
>
>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
>send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>work:(780)492-0473
>
>And also: George Firestone: "George" 
>
>Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!
>
>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com
>
>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>IHR - www.ihr.org
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
>
>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>
>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>
>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>
>In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>for many years around the world.


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Subject: ZYD KOLLABORACI WITH NAZIS - KASTNER, RUMKOWSKI, WIESENTHAL=51 More Cases
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Read, and then repost to friends.
No wonder honest people mistrust the Christkiller ZYDS!

From: The Truth Seeker 

51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis.
[Not forgetting KASTNER, RUMKOWSKI and WIESENTHAL]

By Lenni Brenner

Lenni Brenner has collated documents that relate to how the Zionist movement
collaborated with German Nazism and Italian Fascism. Given the subsequent
Holocaust against the Jews by the Nazis, many will be surprised and appalled
that a political movement, which supposedly supported Jewish liberation, was
prepared to collaborate with the most anti-semitic of regimes.

Among the documents is the relatively well known and infamous ŒStern Gang
Proposal¹ in which the organisation of future Israeli PM Yitzhak Shamir offers
to join in WWII on Œthe side of the German Reich¹. There is also the
embarrassing documents of the German Zionists who saw the Nazis as fellow
nationalists and were thus sympathetic to ŒGerman national renewal¹, the
memoirs of an SS officer who stays in Palestine as the guest of the Zionist
movement for 6 months.

These acts of collaboration were not limited to the right wing fringe of the
Zionist movement but went to the heart of the Zionist Labour establishment
when the head of the Haganah, Feival Polkes, became a willing paid informer of
the Gestapo. He was even handled by one of the architects of the Final
Solution, Adolf Eichmann, who also travelled to Palestine to liaise with the
Zionists.

These shocking historical documents will make you realise that the history of
the political movement which founded the state of Israel is not quite what it
seems.

They also prove that Zionists will do *anything* to protect their precious
political movement, even if it means sacrificing several million Jews in the
process, then exploiting their suffering to secure the greater goal of a
Zionist State.

The Truth Seeker has spoken.


On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 11:08:04 -0700, Ken McVayAIDS/SOB  wrote:
>Reply-To: "George" ,
>PRAWDA!
>
>On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:14:47 -0700, Heinrich Himmelfarb
> wrote:
>
>>The story documented below means that the KASTNER CASE was not an
>>isolated incident!!
>
>Now even Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to be a Nazi GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!
>
>
>>On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:25:52 GMT, c@c.cc wrote:
>>> 51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis  
>
>>>September 2004, page 86 
>
>>>Book Review
>
>>>51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis
>>>By Lenni Brenner, ed. Barricade Books, 2002, 342 pp. List: $22; AET:
>>>$15.
>
>>>Reviewed by Sara Powell
>>>It’s no secret that Zionism embraced political expediency to advance
>>>the cause of carving Eretz-Israel from the land of its native
>>>inhabitants. In his 1983 book, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators,
>>>Lenni Brenner shows that 20th century Zionists observed shockingly few
>>>limits to that expediency. Not surprisingly, the book received little
>>>coverage in the American media. Now, in 51 Documents, Brenner has
>>>compiled a wide variety of letters, statements, articles, and
>>>judgements—some of which appeared in his earlier book—by a broad array
>>>of activists and authors, that documents Zionist cooperration with the
>>>Nazis. On the face of it, the notion seems absurd. However, Brenner
>>>presents the case—made in many Zionists’ own words—that the Nazi
>>>agenda of expelling the Jews from Germany fit nicely with the Zionist
>>>plan for enticing those Jews into settling in Palestine and creating a
>>>new Jewish nation. 
>>>
>>>In addition to introductory and concluding chapters, the book is
>>>organized into five sections which lead the reader through early,
>>>pre-Zionist documents; pre-Holocaust ideological factions; the
>>>Holocaust era itself; and a chapter on the Stern Gang and the Nazis.
>>>Readers should note that a few documents are not indicative of
>>>collaboration in and of themselves, but provide the background to
>>>others written in response. These latter do indicate levels of
>>>collaboration between Zionists and fascists, both the Nazis in
>>>Germany, and those in Mussolini’s Italy. Brenner’s brief explanatory
>>>notes at the beginning of each document are helpful, as are the
>>>glossary and index.
>>>
>>>51 Documents assumes a certain knowledge of Zionist history, and
>>>requires a close reading and some deconstructive efforts on the part
>>>of the reader. Those willing to commit the time and effort, however,
>>>are rewarded with some stunning revelations. The reason some Zionists
>>>eschewed the boycott against Hitler’s Germany, for instance, is that
>>>they had a financial deal—Ha’avara—with Germany allowing Jews to
>>>exchange their wealth for goods to be exported to Palestine at less of
>>>a loss, as an incentive to emigrate. Those wondering why Zionists
>>>today are so organized and experienced in their public relations
>>>efforts discover that these battles have been fought before. Moreover,
>>>the section on Nazi and Zionist understandings of “nationality” versus
>>>citizenship reveals how German and Israeli practices are based on the
>>>same concept. 
>>>
>>>51 Documents also sheds a whole new light on the term “Holocaust
>>>guilt,” frequently understood to mean Western, non-Jewish guilt for
>>>not acting against the Holocaust earlier. However, these documents
>>>make it clear that Holocaust guilt began with those Zionists who made
>>>the undoubtedly difficult, but politically expedient choice to place
>>>Eretz-Israel at the top of their priorities, above the lives of their
>>>threatened European brethren.
>>>
>>>From a Zionist Executive Meeting speech by Yitzhak Gruenbaum on Feb.
>>>18, 1943:
>>>
>>>And when some asked me: “Can’t you give money from Keren Ha Yesod
>>>(Palestine Foundation Fund) to save Jews in the Diaspora?” I said:
>>>“No!” And again I say no....And, because of these things, people
>>>called me an anti-Semite, and concluded that I’m guilty, for the fact
>>>that we don’t give ourselves completely to rescue actions. (p. 211)
>>>
>>>However difficult it may be, the reader must confront some rather
>>>disturbing conclusions. The most unsettling realization for this
>>>reviewer is that pre-Holocaust Zionists were able to politically align
>>>themselves with the Nazis because both groups fundamentally saw race
>>>as an important dividing line—and, moreover, were determined to keep
>>>it that way. From Vladimir Jabotinsky to Albert Einstein,
>>>“assimilation” of Jews into the societies in which they lived was not
>>>an acceptable option. Rather, Jewish nationalism required equality on
>>>a national level, not a personal one. As Jabotinsky explained, “It is
>>>impossible for a man to become assimilated with people whose blood is
>>>different from his own” (p. 10); in Einstein’s words, “Palestine is
>>>first and foremost not a refuge for East European Jews, but the
>>>incarnation of a reawakening sense of national solidarity” (p. 29).
>>>Finally, David Yisraeli, a member of the Stern Gang, wrote the
>>>following in late 1940, as part of a proposal to Hitler. It was
>>>delivered in 1941 to two German diplomats in Lebanon.
>>>
>>>3. The establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and
>>>totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would be
>>>in the interest of a maintained and strengthened future German
>>>position of power in the Near East (p. 301).
>>>
>>>Such beliefs, of course, were not limited to Nazis and Zionists.
>>>Scientific and philosophical constructs of the day considered such
>>>differentiation legitimate, and ideas of racial difference—and,
>>>therefore, racial supremacy—were practiced around the world.
>>>
>>>Another disturbing conclusion a reader must inevitably face is that
>>>Zionists learned both tactical and political lessons from the Nazis
>>>and that, even today, these lessons are applied to further the Zionist
>>>cause. Although most likely known to potential readers of this book,
>>>another disturbing element is the cover-up of the less than savory
>>>roles of current Israeli leaders, including former prime ministers, in
>>>the terrorist Irgun and Stern Gang just before, during, and after the
>>>Holocaust. Likewise, the succumbing of various U.S. officials to
>>>Zionist pressure is a familiar, but distressing, story.
>>>
>>>51 Documents seems to represent a renewed attempt by Brenner to bring
>>>information regarding Zionist collaboration with the Nazis to U.S.
>>>supporters of Israel, as well as to Jews and Muslims, in order to
>>>expand dialogue with knowledge, and save lives—both Palestinian and
>>>Israeli—in the process. Readers of 51 Documents will find it difficult
>>>not to remove the rose colored glasses that so many seem to wear when
>>>examining Zionism.
>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
>is a revolutionary act." 
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages. 
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant
>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
>is a revolutionary act." 
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages. 
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant
>
>
>Posted by: 
>Patrick Lee Humphrey
>7500 Bellerive #1807
>Houston, Texas 77036-3040
>1-713-266-7764
>
>Steven Horn (KCOM)
>1836 NW 11th St
>Oklahoma City, OK 73106
>(405) 524-0576
>
>together with
>Boris Dynin  = NAMBLA executive & 
>Henry 
>CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even 
>VISIT me at:
>55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco  94132
>
>We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>
>
>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>office: VISIT at:
>#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>or call: 1-250-616-9431
>
>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
>called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
>should give an indication as to the why.
>
>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>
>Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked"?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>
>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
>to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>
>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late
>nights.
>
>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
>send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>work:(780)492-0473
>
>And also: George Firestone: "George" 
>
>Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!
>
>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com
>
>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>IHR - www.ihr.org
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
>
>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>
>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>
>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>
>In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>for many years around the world.


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From: Matthias Kern 
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In Germany  people are fed up with the HOLOHOAX.
Immer die verfluechte Juden!

On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 19:14:17 GMT, "princeandy"  wrote:
>"Harry Mazal"  wrote in message
>news:pmag325c0voafsvq7dtt25ii399gg8s7dj@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:01:42 -0500, in alt.politics.nationalism.white
>Tommy
>>  wrote:

>> Friday, January 07, 2005

>> According to a new poll, 62% of Germans are tired of hearing about the three
>> hundred thousand Jews killed during the Second World War, while 52% believe
>> that Israel's treatment of the Palestinians is not fundamentally different
>> from the Nazis' treatment of Jews.

>Well for a start why dont you mention the greatest helpers the nazis had?

>Without Jewish co operation through the zionists the Germans would never
>have had the resources to herd the Jews into the various camps. And the
>zionists made it impossible for the underground to trust the jews.
>Like elsewhere, the only people who had the information and the ear of the
>frightened Jewish population were the Judenrat. In this case the Judenrat
>comprised mainly the Zionist Federation members. Without their help the SS,
>with 19 officers and less than 90 men, plus a few hundred Hungarian police,
>could not have collected and controlled a million Jews, when they did not
>even know their whereabouts. Kastner and the others were left under no
>illusions. Eichmann told Joel Brand, one of the members of Kastner's
>committee, that he intended to send all Hungary's Jews to Auschwitz, before
>he even started the expulsions! He told them clearly that all these Jews
>will die, 12,000 a day, unless certain conditions were met.

>http://www.geocities.com/chabaan_2000/safad.HTM
>Is The same authors also describe co-operation between Zionist leaders and
>Eichmann. It is interesting to note that the extreme right-wing revisionists
>only chose wealthy Jews for emigration, whereas other Zionists insisted on
>taking only young and healthy Jews. Eichmann helped them to carry out these
>plans, in return for which the Zionist Organization paid large sums to the
>Nazis. As Kimche says about the Zionist delegates in Germany: They had not
>come to Germany to save Jews. That was not their job. When the Nazis began
>the systematic murder of Jews in 1941, the Zionists decided neither to
>support Jewish resistance in Europe, nor to attack the Nazis, nor to say
>anything about the mass liquidation of their fellow Jews. Their sole purpose
>was to save certain selected Jews as future settlers in Palestine. They were
>not interested in Jews who wished to stay in their home countries and fight
>the Nazis.

>> Around the world, museums, monuments and educational curricula testify to
>> the truth of the Nazi genocide. For survivors, contemporary society's
>> embrace of their painful legacy has provided a measure of solace. But that
>> solace is eroding in the face of twin threats: organized movements that seek
>> to prove the Holocaust did not exist or, failing that, to strip away its
>> Jewish character.

>Well the jewish character seemsas always to to find monetary gain enough. We
>have them reviling and complaining about all things anti semitic , putting
>men in jail if they mention the holocaust. And it all appears to be to
>protect their beloved leaders the zionists who having done such a good job
>in convincing European jews to wlk unresisting into nazi camps putting there
>families at the mercy of paedophiles and rapists, medical experimentation
>and anything else the nazis felt they wanted to do.

>They are now protecting their zionist leaders by pumping up the death toll
>so the poor embarrassed cleverest portions of our populations can keep
>hiding from their horrendous mistake/s.

>http://666ismoney.com/HolocaustAds.html
>I, Raquel Baranow am a Grad Student of Holocaust Denial. There are persons
>with PhD's in various fields who also deny the 6 million canard. The best evidence is forensic. 
>Until recently, there was never a forensic  examination of the alleged murder weapon (gas chambers). 
>Demographic figures are incomplete. After the fall of East Europe to communism, many of the millions 
>of Jews who fled Poland into the Soviet Union or ended up behind the Iron Curtain changed their names 
>to assimilate, many civilians died in the war, many died in the concentration camps of louse-born typhus. 
>During World War One, two million civilians in the Soviet Union died of typhus. Many died in Stalin's gulags.
>Yad Vashem,( http://www.yadvashem.org/wps/portal/IY_HON_Welcome)a Holocaust
>Documentation Center in Israel has a database of  3,000,000 alleged victims of  Nazi
>extermination. But as you can see HERE
>(http://666ismoney.com/YadVashem.html) (my maiden name, Friedemann), nearly
>every name is listed at least twice, some as many as five times!

>Yad Vashem's 3,000,000 "Holocaust victims" database lists nearly
>everyone twice. Some as many at five times. Anyone, including
>you can submit a "Page of Testimony".

>Name                                  Town          District          Region
>Country          Bday          Source

>Friedemann Adolf        Berlin         Berlin         Berlin         Germany
>1879         list of victims from Germany
>Friedemann Adolf        Berlin         Berlin         Berlin         Germany
>1879         list of deportation from Berlin
>Friedemann Adolf        Berlin         Berlin         Berlin         Germany
>1905         list of deportation from Berlin

>It is forensically impractical or impossible to exterminate millions with
>louse disinfestant (hydrogen cyanide gas) or diesel exhaust as alleged by malicious
>"witnesses" or tortured confessors. There are no written orders for
>extermination. Aerial reconnaissance photographs of the concentration camps
>show no smoke and flames belching from the crematoria and pyres as alleged. 
>The photos and records show there was not enough coke or
>crematoria to cremate millions of corpses. The "witnesses" and confessors
>lied about how many minutes it takes to cremate a corpse. Diesel exhaust does not 
>contain significant amount of carbon monoxide to kill a human. If
>the Nazis wanted to kill millions they could have driven the coal fired
>train into a tunnel or quonset hut and gassed 'em with the exhaust from the 
>locomotive or used the exhaust from the crematoria. At Auschwitz, during a typhus
>epidemic, up to 300 people died per day, hence the crematoria, shaving of
>heads and requisitions for tons of Zyklon B louse disinfestant. HCN is a very 
>dangerous, impractical, messy method for extermination.
>http://www.vho.org/
>The Holocaust Controversy A Case for open Debate
>The Gas Chambers are a fraud, a tourist attraction, slander, demonizing,
>impractical/impossible, malicious atrocity propaganda spread by the communists, 
>who hated Hitler and perpetrated by Jews, who were always
>looking for ways to get to the lands of milk and money. The Jews have
>extorted billions from the US Treasury,
>Germany, Swiss banks and insurance companies on account of the Holohoax
>fraud. The Holohoax also makes those who fought Hitler feel like they did something 
>good fighting the demon, Hitler instead of letting Hitler take on Stalin alone.

>A "liberal" person has an open mind. A bigot is irrational and obstinate.

>> Of course, the revisionist "historians" and hatemongers who deny the
>> existence of the Holocaust, influential as they are in some marginal
>> circles, operate outside respectable discourse. But the same is not true of
>> those who seek to drain the Holocaust of its Jewish component. Imagine, if
>> you will, a Holocaust commemoration that Jews were not allowed to attend.
>> Oslo witnessed such an event on Nov. 9, the 66th anniversary of
>> Kristallnacht, the Third Reich's state-orchestrated pogrom against Germany's
>> Jews. Norwegian authorities, not wanting any trouble from Muslims, forbade
>> the display of Jewish symbols, including the Star of David and the Israeli
>> flag. The evening news showed a group of Jews who wanted to take part in the
>> commemoration being told by a policeman to "please leave the area."

>> The Oslo outrage echoed what occurred in 2000 when the Dutch Committee of
>> the Jewish Resistance cancelled a public event out of fear of disturbances
>> caused by Arab youths. While Amsterdam municipal authorities supported a
>> memorial meeting commemorating Kristallnacht, they insisted -- over the
>> objections of Jewish survivors -- that an Arab speaker could use the
>> occasion to attack Israel. In Belgium and France, meanwhile, teachers are
>> increasingly unwilling or unable to teach mandated sessions on the Holocaust
>> because of ugly disturbances by Arab students.

>> In Raoul Wallenberg's homeland, Sweden, a third of young people recently
>> polled were skeptical that the Holocaust really happened. Similar skepticism
>> was reported in Greek newspapers -- before, during, and after last year's
>> summer Olympics. And a recent report from the largest Dutch Jewish community
>> organization, the Ashkenazi Orthodox NIK, noted that "there is less and less
>> knowledge of the fact that six million Jews were murdered in the Second
>> World War," and raised the question "whether this is the natural result of
>> the passage of time, which leads to distance from the Holocaust, or whether
>> this is the result of government policy."

>> What's going on here is worthy of George Orwell: the theft of Holocaust
>> remembrance by revisionists and their unwitting allies. Increasingly,
>> Europeans decry genocide by reference to Rwanda and Sudan, while passing
>> over the even greater atrocity that took place on their own soil.

>> Among left-wing thinkers, the favoured recasting of Hitler's Final Solution
>> deflects the spotlight from the wartime destruction of European Jewry to the
>> postwar travails of the Palestinians. In this perversion, Israel --attacked
>> by the Arabs in five wars since its founding in 1948 and still under
>> constant terrorist barrage -- is no longer the haven for Hitler's Survivors,
>> but the perpetrator of "ethnic cleansing," "apartheid" and abundant other
>> slanders. Meanwhile, the atrocities committed by Arab suicide bombers are
>> passed over lightly as the desperate acts of "militants" driven to rage by
>> Israeli cruelty. While it is still fashionable for European leaders to shed
>> a tear for the victims of Auschwitz, they are dry-eyed when it comes to the
>> mass murders of those victims' offspring.

>> Just days before 9/11, the United Nations' World Conference Against Racism
>> in Durban, South Africa, showed how the global human rights agenda could be
>> hijacked by bigots. The only panel on the four-day program dealing with
>> anti-semitism was disrupted by pro-Palestinian zealots who insisted that
>> "anti-semitism" be redefined as "anti-Arab sentiment" because Arabs -- not
>> Jews -- are "the real Semites." It is a common theme in the Muslim world. In
>> the United Arab Emirates, the executive director of an Arab think-tank
>> recently explained that Israel has no right to exist because Jews "have
>> nothing to do with Semitism or Palestine."

>> Where Jews are concerned, the 21st century is witnessing the emergence of an
>> unholy alliance between Muslim extremists and left-wing fellow travellers. A
>> recent report by the European Monitoring Centre on Racism and Xenophobia,
>> initially suppressed by the EU, documented the trend that recycles Jew
>> hatred from Europe to the Mideast and back again -- finding its greatest
>> echo among disaffected Muslim youth across the continent. As an antidote,
>> the report recommended that "the governments of the EU Member States should
>> undertake initiatives ... to mobilise the support of political and social
>> leaders to foster Holocaust education, remembrance and research."

>> But if what happened on Nov. 9 in Oslo is any indication, Holocaust
>> "remembrance" is being compromised by the very disease it seeks to cure.
>> Left unchecked, this new pathology could pave the way for a yet another dark
>> chapter in the relationship between Europe and the Jewish people.

>> Rabbi Abraham Cooper is associate dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center. Dr.
>> Harold Brackman is a historian and consultant to the Center.

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


Posted by: 
Patrick Lee Humphrey
7500 Bellerive #1807
Houston, Texas 77036-3040
1-713-266-7764

Steven Horn (KCOM)
1836 NW 11th St
Oklahoma City, OK 73106
(405) 524-0576

together with
Boris Dynin  = NAMBLA executive & 
Henry 
CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even 
VISIT me at:
55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco  94132

We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.


Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late
nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
work:(780)492-0473

And also: George Firestone: "George" ,
and davejoll@ihug.co.nz.

Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
for many years around the world.




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From: Matthias Kern 
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Holocaust: neue Klagen gegen BRD

On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 20:09:09 +0200, in de.soc.politik.misc Malte Messmann
 wrote:
Frank Bügel schrieb:
> Kinder von Holocaust-Überlebenden wollen auf Zahlungen klagen
> Anwalt: Leiden der "zweiten Generation" müssten anerkannt werden

> Tel Aviv (APA/dpa) - Kinder israelischer Holocaust-Überlebender wollen vor
> einem israelischen Gericht auf Zahlungen aus Deutschland klagen. Ein
> entsprechender Antrag solle am Sonntag vor dem Bezirksgericht in Tel Aviv
> eingereicht werden, berichtete die israelische Tageszeitung "Haaretz" am
> Freitag. Die Leiden der "zweiten Generation" müssten anerkannt werden, wird
> ein Rechtsanwalt zitiert. Bisher hätten sich 3.000 Israelis der Initiative
> angeschlossen.

> Die Kläger wollen dem Zeitungsbericht zufolge erreichen, dass die deutsche
> Regierung die Kosten für Therapien übernimmt, die das Leid der zweiten
> Generation lindern. In der Klageschrift würden die Fälle von fünf Frauen
> genannt, deren Eltern den Holocaust überlebt haben. Die Töchter litten
> heute unter Angstzuständen und Depressionen.

> In der Klageschrift werde der Fall einer 55-jährigen Klägerin genannt, die
> nicht mit Bussen fahren könne, weil sie dies an Züge erinnere, in denen
> Juden in Vernichtungslager gefahren wurden. Eine andere Frau habe starke
> Angst vor Hunden. 

> "Sowohl die Erfahrungen der zweiten Generation und Studien zeigen, dass das
> Trauma zwischen den Generationen übertragen wurde (...), zitiert die
> Zeitung aus der Klageschrift. Die geplante Klage wird als bisher
> beispiellos bezeichnet. (IKG Wien, 13.07.2007)
> http://www.ikg-wien.at/IKG/Members/irene/1104751983285/1184329903905?portal_skin=News&id=1184329903905

> Ist eigentlich ein Urteil eines israelischen Gerichts für die BRD bindend?
> Was haltet Ihr von dieser "beispiellosen" Klage?

> Frank

Die Juden haben über 60 Jahre nach Kriegsende einen an der Waffel, 
scheint auch ein Folgeschaden zu sein. Wenn sie Geld brauchen  sollen 
sie arbeiten, wenn sie zum schachern, was sie am besten können, zu blöd 
sind.

Malte


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website 
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION 
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - 
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the 
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


Reply-To: Frank Arthur , 
or to Steve Horn ,
Ariadne@mac.hush.com, or Ariadne.mac@gmail.com
Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, 
homosexuals and the like.


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From: Matthias Kern 
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Subject: ZYD Ritual Murders Of Children In Russia
Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:17:22 -0700
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No wonder the disgusting Christkiller  ZYDS are so hated and loathed
worldwide.

On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:44:15 -0400, in alt.politics.nationalism.white "Whip"
 wrote:

"JEWISH RITUAL MURDERS" IN RUSSIA
FIVE CHILDREN FOUND DEAD IN PIT; BLOOD DRAINED FROM BODIES!
CORPSES WERE SET ON FIRE TO HIDE BLOOD DRAINING

On April 16, 2005, just a week before the beginning the the Jewish Passover 
on April 23, five children, Muslim and Christian, "disappeared" in the 
Russian Siberian city of Krasnoyarsk.  their burnt bodies have been found in 
a sewage pit.

A popular Russian daily, Komsomolskaya Pravda, writes today that many 
Russians in the city are convinced that the children were ritually murdered 
by local Jews who later burnt their bodies to conceal the crime and prevent 
experts to find in the bodies the lack of blood which is used by Hasidic 
Jews for ritual purposes.

Few people in the city believe that the Jewish murderers ever come to trial 
and that the murders would be properly clarified by police investigaters in 
present-day new democratic Russia.

Vladimir Salamatov, the lawyer representing the interests of the parents of 
the murdered children told the paper that 5 independent experts confirmed 
the lack of hemoglobine (red substance in human blood) in all burnt bodies.

"I am sure that it was a ritual murder with exsanguination", he said.

Evgeny Kazantsev, the Head of Untraditional Religious Groups Monitoring 
Center, agrees that it was a ritual murder.

A Moscow independent researcher and journalist, Mikhail Nazarov, stresses 
that there is a large Jewish community in Krasnoyarsk and that the 
authorities do their best to conceal this ritual murder committed by the 
Jews. A witness reported seeing the bodies of the children thrown intact in 
the pit as proscribed by the Jewish ritual and then somebody burnt then to 
conceal ritual wounds in specific places of the bodies made for the 
exsanguination, Mr nazarov said.

The researcher reminded of a well-known case of the ritual murder of a 
10-year-old Christian child, Andyusha Yushchinsky in Kiev in 1913. A local 
Jewish community activist, Beilis, was arrested and accused of the murder 
and later released by a court because of insufficient evidence, with a minor 
overweight among the jury.

"The murder of Andryusha Yushchinsky also took place few day before the 
Jewish Passover, his body was also exsanguinated and thrown off without 
burial", Mr Nazarov said.

"And Beilis belonged to the same Lubavichi Hasidic branch of Judaism as the 
present Chief Rabbi of Russia Berl Lazar who ... copies American gangstes 
practises (he was born in the US) and acts with support of Jewish oligarchs, 
the Kransnoyarsk Chief Rabbi Wagner and the Jewish Governor of the 
Krasnoyarsk Territory Khloponin", Mr. Nazarov added in his interview with 
the Moscow paper.

http://krsk.kp.ru/2006/09/20/doc137434/ 

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
John Bryant

TOLERANCE is a virtue of a man WITHOUT convictions.
G. K. Chesterton.


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
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In Germany  people are fed up with the HOLOHOAX.
Immer die verfluechte Juden!

On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 19:14:17 GMT, "princeandy"  wrote:
>"Harry Mazal"  wrote in message
>news:pmag325c0voafsvq7dtt25ii399gg8s7dj@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:01:42 -0500, in alt.politics.nationalism.white
>Tommy
>>  wrote:

>> Friday, January 07, 2005

>> According to a new poll, 62% of Germans are tired of hearing about the three
>> hundred thousand Jews killed during the Second World War, while 52% believe
>> that Israel's treatment of the Palestinians is not fundamentally different
>> from the Nazis' treatment of Jews.

>Well for a start why dont you mention the greatest helpers the nazis had?

>Without Jewish co operation through the zionists the Germans would never
>have had the resources to herd the Jews into the various camps. And the
>zionists made it impossible for the underground to trust the jews.
>Like elsewhere, the only people who had the information and the ear of the
>frightened Jewish population were the Judenrat. In this case the Judenrat
>comprised mainly the Zionist Federation members. Without their help the SS,
>with 19 officers and less than 90 men, plus a few hundred Hungarian police,
>could not have collected and controlled a million Jews, when they did not
>even know their whereabouts. Kastner and the others were left under no
>illusions. Eichmann told Joel Brand, one of the members of Kastner's
>committee, that he intended to send all Hungary's Jews to Auschwitz, before
>he even started the expulsions! He told them clearly that all these Jews
>will die, 12,000 a day, unless certain conditions were met.

>http://www.geocities.com/chabaan_2000/safad.HTM
>Is The same authors also describe co-operation between Zionist leaders and
>Eichmann. It is interesting to note that the extreme right-wing revisionists
>only chose wealthy Jews for emigration, whereas other Zionists insisted on
>taking only young and healthy Jews. Eichmann helped them to carry out these
>plans, in return for which the Zionist Organization paid large sums to the
>Nazis. As Kimche says about the Zionist delegates in Germany: They had not
>come to Germany to save Jews. That was not their job. When the Nazis began
>the systematic murder of Jews in 1941, the Zionists decided neither to
>support Jewish resistance in Europe, nor to attack the Nazis, nor to say
>anything about the mass liquidation of their fellow Jews. Their sole purpose
>was to save certain selected Jews as future settlers in Palestine. They were
>not interested in Jews who wished to stay in their home countries and fight
>the Nazis.

>> Around the world, museums, monuments and educational curricula testify to
>> the truth of the Nazi genocide. For survivors, contemporary society's
>> embrace of their painful legacy has provided a measure of solace. But that
>> solace is eroding in the face of twin threats: organized movements that seek
>> to prove the Holocaust did not exist or, failing that, to strip away its
>> Jewish character.

>Well the jewish character seemsas always to to find monetary gain enough. We
>have them reviling and complaining about all things anti semitic , putting
>men in jail if they mention the holocaust. And it all appears to be to
>protect their beloved leaders the zionists who having done such a good job
>in convincing European jews to wlk unresisting into nazi camps putting there
>families at the mercy of paedophiles and rapists, medical experimentation
>and anything else the nazis felt they wanted to do.

>They are now protecting their zionist leaders by pumping up the death toll
>so the poor embarrassed cleverest portions of our populations can keep
>hiding from their horrendous mistake/s.

>http://666ismoney.com/HolocaustAds.html
>I, Raquel Baranow am a Grad Student of Holocaust Denial. There are persons
>with PhD's in various fields who also deny the 6 million canard. The best evidence is forensic. 
>Until recently, there was never a forensic  examination of the alleged murder weapon (gas chambers). 
>Demographic figures are incomplete. After the fall of East Europe to communism, many of the millions 
>of Jews who fled Poland into the Soviet Union or ended up behind the Iron Curtain changed their names 
>to assimilate, many civilians died in the war, many died in the concentration camps of louse-born typhus. 
>During World War One, two million civilians in the Soviet Union died of typhus. Many died in Stalin's gulags.
>Yad Vashem,( http://www.yadvashem.org/wps/portal/IY_HON_Welcome)a Holocaust
>Documentation Center in Israel has a database of  3,000,000 alleged victims of  Nazi
>extermination. But as you can see HERE
>(http://666ismoney.com/YadVashem.html) (my maiden name, Friedemann), nearly
>every name is listed at least twice, some as many as five times!

>Yad Vashem's 3,000,000 "Holocaust victims" database lists nearly
>everyone twice. Some as many at five times. Anyone, including
>you can submit a "Page of Testimony".

>Name                                  Town          District          Region
>Country          Bday          Source

>Friedemann Adolf        Berlin         Berlin         Berlin         Germany
>1879         list of victims from Germany
>Friedemann Adolf        Berlin         Berlin         Berlin         Germany
>1879         list of deportation from Berlin
>Friedemann Adolf        Berlin         Berlin         Berlin         Germany
>1905         list of deportation from Berlin

>It is forensically impractical or impossible to exterminate millions with
>louse disinfestant (hydrogen cyanide gas) or diesel exhaust as alleged by malicious
>"witnesses" or tortured confessors. There are no written orders for
>extermination. Aerial reconnaissance photographs of the concentration camps
>show no smoke and flames belching from the crematoria and pyres as alleged. 
>The photos and records show there was not enough coke or
>crematoria to cremate millions of corpses. The "witnesses" and confessors
>lied about how many minutes it takes to cremate a corpse. Diesel exhaust does not 
>contain significant amount of carbon monoxide to kill a human. If
>the Nazis wanted to kill millions they could have driven the coal fired
>train into a tunnel or quonset hut and gassed 'em with the exhaust from the 
>locomotive or used the exhaust from the crematoria. At Auschwitz, during a typhus
>epidemic, up to 300 people died per day, hence the crematoria, shaving of
>heads and requisitions for tons of Zyklon B louse disinfestant. HCN is a very 
>dangerous, impractical, messy method for extermination.
>http://www.vho.org/
>The Holocaust Controversy A Case for open Debate
>The Gas Chambers are a fraud, a tourist attraction, slander, demonizing,
>impractical/impossible, malicious atrocity propaganda spread by the communists, 
>who hated Hitler and perpetrated by Jews, who were always
>looking for ways to get to the lands of milk and money. The Jews have
>extorted billions from the US Treasury,
>Germany, Swiss banks and insurance companies on account of the Holohoax
>fraud. The Holohoax also makes those who fought Hitler feel like they did something 
>good fighting the demon, Hitler instead of letting Hitler take on Stalin alone.

>A "liberal" person has an open mind. A bigot is irrational and obstinate.

>> Of course, the revisionist "historians" and hatemongers who deny the
>> existence of the Holocaust, influential as they are in some marginal
>> circles, operate outside respectable discourse. But the same is not true of
>> those who seek to drain the Holocaust of its Jewish component. Imagine, if
>> you will, a Holocaust commemoration that Jews were not allowed to attend.
>> Oslo witnessed such an event on Nov. 9, the 66th anniversary of
>> Kristallnacht, the Third Reich's state-orchestrated pogrom against Germany's
>> Jews. Norwegian authorities, not wanting any trouble from Muslims, forbade
>> the display of Jewish symbols, including the Star of David and the Israeli
>> flag. The evening news showed a group of Jews who wanted to take part in the
>> commemoration being told by a policeman to "please leave the area."

>> The Oslo outrage echoed what occurred in 2000 when the Dutch Committee of
>> the Jewish Resistance cancelled a public event out of fear of disturbances
>> caused by Arab youths. While Amsterdam municipal authorities supported a
>> memorial meeting commemorating Kristallnacht, they insisted -- over the
>> objections of Jewish survivors -- that an Arab speaker could use the
>> occasion to attack Israel. In Belgium and France, meanwhile, teachers are
>> increasingly unwilling or unable to teach mandated sessions on the Holocaust
>> because of ugly disturbances by Arab students.

>> In Raoul Wallenberg's homeland, Sweden, a third of young people recently
>> polled were skeptical that the Holocaust really happened. Similar skepticism
>> was reported in Greek newspapers -- before, during, and after last year's
>> summer Olympics. And a recent report from the largest Dutch Jewish community
>> organization, the Ashkenazi Orthodox NIK, noted that "there is less and less
>> knowledge of the fact that six million Jews were murdered in the Second
>> World War," and raised the question "whether this is the natural result of
>> the passage of time, which leads to distance from the Holocaust, or whether
>> this is the result of government policy."

>> What's going on here is worthy of George Orwell: the theft of Holocaust
>> remembrance by revisionists and their unwitting allies. Increasingly,
>> Europeans decry genocide by reference to Rwanda and Sudan, while passing
>> over the even greater atrocity that took place on their own soil.

>> Among left-wing thinkers, the favoured recasting of Hitler's Final Solution
>> deflects the spotlight from the wartime destruction of European Jewry to the
>> postwar travails of the Palestinians. In this perversion, Israel --attacked
>> by the Arabs in five wars since its founding in 1948 and still under
>> constant terrorist barrage -- is no longer the haven for Hitler's Survivors,
>> but the perpetrator of "ethnic cleansing," "apartheid" and abundant other
>> slanders. Meanwhile, the atrocities committed by Arab suicide bombers are
>> passed over lightly as the desperate acts of "militants" driven to rage by
>> Israeli cruelty. While it is still fashionable for European leaders to shed
>> a tear for the victims of Auschwitz, they are dry-eyed when it comes to the
>> mass murders of those victims' offspring.

>> Just days before 9/11, the United Nations' World Conference Against Racism
>> in Durban, South Africa, showed how the global human rights agenda could be
>> hijacked by bigots. The only panel on the four-day program dealing with
>> anti-semitism was disrupted by pro-Palestinian zealots who insisted that
>> "anti-semitism" be redefined as "anti-Arab sentiment" because Arabs -- not
>> Jews -- are "the real Semites." It is a common theme in the Muslim world. In
>> the United Arab Emirates, the executive director of an Arab think-tank
>> recently explained that Israel has no right to exist because Jews "have
>> nothing to do with Semitism or Palestine."

>> Where Jews are concerned, the 21st century is witnessing the emergence of an
>> unholy alliance between Muslim extremists and left-wing fellow travellers. A
>> recent report by the European Monitoring Centre on Racism and Xenophobia,
>> initially suppressed by the EU, documented the trend that recycles Jew
>> hatred from Europe to the Mideast and back again -- finding its greatest
>> echo among disaffected Muslim youth across the continent. As an antidote,
>> the report recommended that "the governments of the EU Member States should
>> undertake initiatives ... to mobilise the support of political and social
>> leaders to foster Holocaust education, remembrance and research."

>> But if what happened on Nov. 9 in Oslo is any indication, Holocaust
>> "remembrance" is being compromised by the very disease it seeks to cure.
>> Left unchecked, this new pathology could pave the way for a yet another dark
>> chapter in the relationship between Europe and the Jewish people.

>> Rabbi Abraham Cooper is associate dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center. Dr.
>> Harold Brackman is a historian and consultant to the Center.

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


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together with
Boris Dynin  = NAMBLA executive & 
Henry 
CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even 
VISIT me at:
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We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.


Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
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As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
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"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
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Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late
nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
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Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

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JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
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of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
for many years around the world.




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From: Matthias Kern 
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On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 19:28:17 +0200, Carla Schneider 
wrote:
>Ulrich Heymach wrote:
>> Carla Schneider schrieb:

>> > Des Krieges der dem Deutschen Volk von den Siegermaechten des
>> > ersten Weltkrieges aufgezwungen wurde, nachdem Deutschland den
>> > Versailler Vertrag nicht mehr erfuellte.

>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjMqw1-hdYE&mode=related&search=
>Wecker sagt nein zur Verfassungsschutzpartei .
>Was nutzt uns das hier ?
>Dir ist doch mehr nach diesem hier:
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAh5mfkuAXk
>Oder etwas moderner:
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLVMvwptPkY

Etwas klarer:
Harris + Heydrich: Kein Unterschied? Beide sind KampfKriminale und Moerdern!

On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 11:19:36 +0100, in de.soc.politik.misc Werner Schneider
 wrote:

Nein.

Begründung:

1) Harris wollte soviele Deutsche wie möglich umbringen
lassen, Heydrich soviele Juden wie möglich.

2) Heydrich wollte natürlich auch die jüdische Kultur mit
allem, was dazu gehört, beseitigen. Harris liess bevorzugt
deutsche Innenstädte bombardieren, um soviel deutsche Kultur
wie möglich zu zerstören.

3) Grossbritannien führte gegen das Deutsche Reich einen
selbst erklärten Krieg, dessen Bestandteil "Luftkrieg" mit
grösstmöglicher Grausamkeit geführt wurde. Auch jeder deutsche
Zivilist war Angriffsziel. Für die Nazis waren die Juden
schlechthin Angriffsziel. Es fehlte bei beiden jegliche
Differenzierung nach gut und schlecht, nach erlaubt und
nicht erlaubt. Erlaubt war alles. Sowohl hier wie da.

4) Die Briten gaben und geben vor, gegen ein Verbrecher-
Regime zu kämpfen bzw. gekämpft zu haben und nutzen dieses
Argument als Begründung für ihre brutale Luftkriegsführung.
Es zieht allerdings nicht. Wie kann man 500.000 Zivilisten
töten und sich dann die Hände in Unschuld waschen? Auch
den 500.000 wurde ein Holocaust bereitet. Wenn Harris
gekonnt hätte, wären ihm auch 6 Millionen Recht gewesen.

5) Verbrechen sind Verbrechen, egal, wie man sie begründet.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

6) Worin unterscheiden sich also Harris und Heydrich:
Für Harris wurde in London ein Denkmal errichtet.

Werner


On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 11:19:36 +0100, in de.soc.politik.misc Werner Schneider
 wrote:

Nein.

Begründung:

1) Harris wollte soviele Deutsche wie möglich umbringen
lassen, Heydrich soviele Juden wie möglich.

2) Heydrich wollte natürlich auch die jüdische Kultur mit
allem, was dazu gehört, beseitigen. Harris liess bevorzugt
deutsche Innenstädte bombardieren, um soviel deutsche Kultur
wie möglich zu zerstören.

3) Grossbritannien führte gegen das Deutsche Reich einen
selbst erklärten Krieg, dessen Bestandteil "Luftkrieg" mit
grösstmöglicher Grausamkeit geführt wurde. Auch jeder deutsche
Zivilist war Angriffsziel. Für die Nazis waren die Juden
schlechthin Angriffsziel. Es fehlte bei beiden jegliche
Differenzierung nach gut und schlecht, nach erlaubt und
nicht erlaubt. Erlaubt war alles. Sowohl hier wie da.

4) Die Briten gaben und geben vor, gegen ein Verbrecher-
Regime zu kämpfen bzw. gekämpft zu haben und nutzen dieses
Argument als Begründung für ihre brutale Luftkriegsführung.
Es zieht allerdings nicht. Wie kann man 500.000 Zivilisten
töten und sich dann die Hände in Unschuld waschen? Auch
den 500.000 wurde ein Holocaust bereitet. Wenn Harris
gekonnt hätte, wären ihm auch 6 Millionen Recht gewesen.

5) Verbrechen sind Verbrechen, egal, wie man sie begründet.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

6) Worin unterscheiden sich also Harris und Heydrich:
Für Harris wurde in London ein Denkmal errichtet.

Werner


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From: Matthias Kern 
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Subject: Holocaust=HOLOHOAX: neue Klagen gegen BRD
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Holocaust: neue Klagen gegen BRD von die verfluechte Juden

On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 20:09:09 +0200, in de.soc.politik.misc Malte Messmann
 wrote:
Frank Bügel schrieb:
> Kinder von Holocaust-Überlebenden wollen auf Zahlungen klagen
> Anwalt: Leiden der "zweiten Generation" müssten anerkannt werden

> Tel Aviv (APA/dpa) - Kinder israelischer Holocaust-Überlebender wollen vor
> einem israelischen Gericht auf Zahlungen aus Deutschland klagen. Ein
> entsprechender Antrag solle am Sonntag vor dem Bezirksgericht in Tel Aviv
> eingereicht werden, berichtete die israelische Tageszeitung "Haaretz" am
> Freitag. Die Leiden der "zweiten Generation" müssten anerkannt werden, wird
> ein Rechtsanwalt zitiert. Bisher hätten sich 3.000 Israelis der Initiative
> angeschlossen.

> Die Kläger wollen dem Zeitungsbericht zufolge erreichen, dass die deutsche
> Regierung die Kosten für Therapien übernimmt, die das Leid der zweiten
> Generation lindern. In der Klageschrift würden die Fälle von fünf Frauen
> genannt, deren Eltern den Holocaust überlebt haben. Die Töchter litten
> heute unter Angstzuständen und Depressionen.

> In der Klageschrift werde der Fall einer 55-jährigen Klägerin genannt, die
> nicht mit Bussen fahren könne, weil sie dies an Züge erinnere, in denen
> Juden in Vernichtungslager gefahren wurden. Eine andere Frau habe starke
> Angst vor Hunden. 

> "Sowohl die Erfahrungen der zweiten Generation und Studien zeigen, dass das
> Trauma zwischen den Generationen übertragen wurde (...), zitiert die
> Zeitung aus der Klageschrift. Die geplante Klage wird als bisher
> beispiellos bezeichnet. (IKG Wien, 13.07.2007)
> http://www.ikg-wien.at/IKG/Members/irene/1104751983285/1184329903905?portal_skin=News&id=1184329903905

> Ist eigentlich ein Urteil eines israelischen Gerichts für die BRD bindend?
> Was haltet Ihr von dieser "beispiellosen" Klage?

> Frank

Die Juden haben über 60 Jahre nach Kriegsende einen an der Waffel, 
scheint auch ein Folgeschaden zu sein. Wenn sie Geld brauchen  sollen 
sie arbeiten, wenn sie zum schachern, was sie am besten können, zu blöd 
sind.

Malte


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website 
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION 
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - 
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the 
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


Reply-To: Frank Arthur , 
or to Steve Horn ,
Ariadne@mac.hush.com, or Ariadne.mac@gmail.com
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homosexuals and the like.


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From: Matthias Kern 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.swiss,soc.culture.german,soc.culture.europe
Subject: Swiss State 6 Million HOLOHOAX Figure Untrue!!
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From: "Salah Jafar" 
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:04:07 GMT

 "Six Million" Untrue According to Neutral Swiss 
 It is clear, therefore, that the Germans could not possibly have gained
control over or exterminated anything like six million Jews. 
Excluding the Soviet Union, the number of Jews in Nazi-occupied Europe after
emigration was scarcely more than 3 million, by no means 
all of whom were interned. To approach the extermination of even half of six
million would have meant the liquidation of every Jew living 
in Europe. 

 Nothing better illustrates the declining  plausibility of the Six Million
legend than the fact that the prosecution at the Eichmann trial 
deliberately avoided mentioning the figure. Moreover, official Jewish
estimates of the casualties are being quietly revised downwards. Our 
analysis of the population and emigration statistics, as well as the studies
by the Swiss "Baseler Nachrichten" and Professor Rassinier, 
demonstrate that it would have been simply impossible for the number of Jewish
casualties to have exceeded a limit of one and a half million. 

 Doubtless, several thousand Jewish people did die in the course of the Second
World War, but this must be seen in the context of a war 
that cost many millions of innocent victims on all sides. To put the matter in
perspective, for example, we may point out that 700,000 Russian 
civilians died during the siege of Leningrad, and a total of 2,050,000 German
civilians were killed in Allied air raids and forced repatriation 
after (Operation Keelhaul) after the war. 

 The question most pertinent to the extermination legend is, of course: Ho
many of the 3 million European Jews, under German control, 
survived after 1945? The Jewish Joint Distribution Committee estimated the
number of survivors in Europe to be only one and half million, 
but such a figure is now totally unacceptable. This is proven by the growing
number of Jews calming compensation from the West German 
Government for having allegedly suffered between 1939 and 1945. By 1965, the
number of these claimants registered with the West German 
Government had tripled in ten years and reached 3,375,000. (Aufbau, June 30th,
1965) 

 Nothing could be a more devastating proof of the brazen fantasy of the Six
Million. Most of these claimants are Jews, so there can be 
no doubt that the majority of the 3 million Jews who experienced the Nazi
occupation of Europe are, in fact, very much alive. It is a 
resounding confirmation of the fact that Jewish casualties during the Second
World War can only be estimated at a figure in thousands


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Subject: Der neue alte Antisemitismus was: Re: ZioNazis, ab in den sozialen Verachtungstod
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Der neue alte Antisemitismus was: Re: ZioNazis, ab in den sozialen
Verachtungstod

On 10 Nov 2006 00:00:00 +0000, in de.soc.politik.misc
m.blumentritt@cl-hh.comlink.de (Martin Blumentritt) wrote:

Der "neue Antisemitismus" - Altes Gift mit neuem Etikett Rede von Dr.
Dieter Graumann - Frankfurt/Main Rede von Dr. Dieter Graumann,
Präsidiumsmitglied des Zentralrats der Juden in Deutschland und
Kulturdezernent der Jüdischen Gemeinde Frankfurt, anlässlich der
offiziellen Gedenkveranstaltung für die Pogromnacht vom 9. November
1938 in der Paulskirche in Frankfurt/Main am 9. November 2004

In Europa blüht die alte Seuche neu auf

Der 9. November 1938 gilt zu Recht gemeinhin als eine Explosion von
Sadismus, von Vandalismus, von Mordlust, von Zerstörungswut. Es war
der keineswegs spontane, vielmehr sorgfältig gelenkte, inszenierte,
orchestrierte Ausbruch von brutaler Judenfeindschaft.

Wie ist das heute? Die Pest von Antisemitismus ist nicht tot, sondern
höchst lebendig. In den letzten Monaten hat es zu diesem Thema, da es
leider so aktuell ist, große internationale Konferenzen und
Erklärungen gegeben.

Oft wird heute dabei vom "neuen Antisemitismus" gesprochen. Ist er
wirklich neu? Was ist dabei neu? Oder: Handelt es sich am Ende doch
nur um das alte Gift mit neuem Etikett? Und: Wie geht das moderne,
aufgeklärte Europa mit dieser Seuche um?

Antisemitismus vergeht nicht. Aber auch der Antisemitismus geht
inzwischen mit der Zeit. Auch er geht sozusagen mit der Mode, macht
sich fein und chic, um attraktiv und akzeptabel und legitim zu
erscheinen.

Natürlich gibt es noch den "alten" - soll man etwa sagen: den "guten
alten" ? - Antisemitismus: jener, der die Juden als rassisch
minderwertig qualifiziert, sie aussondern oder gar eliminieren will.
Das alles gibt es noch heute - aber in dieser Schlichtheit doch eher
selten.

Der Antisemitismus von heute stellt sich oft anders dar als früher,
chiffriert, codiert - aber nicht weniger gehässig und verwerflich.
Heutzutage will kaum jemand mehr sich direkt als Antisemit outen.
Denn allzu sehr ist doch der offen ausgesprochene Judenhass mit dem
millionenfachen Morden, mit den monumentalen Mordfabriken verknüpft
und gilt daher politisch als nicht - oder als noch nicht wieder -
korrekt.

Was also ist zu tun? Wie soll sich denn der arme Antisemit von heute
eigentlich artikulieren? Fast könnte er einem ja leid tun: Auschwitz
leugnen soll er nicht. Auschwitz loben darf er nicht. Juden
akzeptieren kann er nicht. Eine verzwickte Lage.

Wie gut, dass es da Israel gibt! Gäbe es Israel nicht, die
Antisemiten von heute müssten es direkt erfinden!

Denn Israel liefert doch die perfekte Möglichkeit, uralte
antisemitische Instinkte unter der modischen, bunten Flagge von
Antizionismus politisch korrekt auszuleben.

Dass das überhaupt möglich ist, müsste die Antisemiten von heute
perverserweise eigentlich zu begeisterten Zionisten machen. Aber das
wäre wahrscheinlich denn doch zu viel verlangt.

Wohlgemerkt: Ganz sicher ist keineswegs jede Israelkritik
antisemitisch. Und Kritik an israelischer Politik ist natürlich
legitim. Nirgends ist diese Kritik auch leidenschaftlicher als in
Israel selbst - ganz unabhängig übrigens davon, welche Politik dort
gerade verfolgt wird. Aber Israel ist nicht nur die einzige
Demokratie der Region, sondern verfügt außerdem über eine besonders
intensive und lebendige Streitkultur.

Aber hier geht es doch um etwas ganz anderes: Denn oft, und öfter als
man denkt, dient die radikale, von Hass getragene Kritik an Israel
nur als Vehikel, um am Ende doch wieder nur den allzu vertrauten
Judenhass zu transportieren.

Neu ist das nicht: Spätestens seit Stalin und seinen Schauprozessen
ist Antizionismus zu einem Codewort für Antisemitismus geworden.

Und auch heute gibt es sehr wohl den Ersatzantisemitismus, der Israel
sagt und Juden meint. Kritik an Israel als Alibi, als Vorwand, als
Deckmantel für ausgelebte Judenfeindschaft

- das ist in Europa heute nur allzu oft rüde Realität.

In Deutschland hat das Ganze natürlich noch einen ganz besonderen
Akzent, einen ganz speziellen Geschmack. Es ist eine
"Entschuldungs-Debatte", die geführt wird, getragen vom Wunsch, die
Schuld der Väter und Großväter zu verkleinern, indem die Kinder und
Enkel der Opfer von damals zu den Tätern von heute werden. Daraus
spricht die Fantasie - oder die Wunschvorstellung - dass Israelis und
Juden irgendwie doch auch wie die Nazis sein mögen. Es ist der
schamlose Versuch einer schuldentlastenden Projektion. Die
kontroverse Diskussion in Deutschland über das Thema Israel
verursacht auch keineswegs neuen Antisemitismus. Nein: hier wird nur
jener Antisemitismus offenbart, der schon immer vorhanden war. Oder
anders: Wer wegen Israel zum Antisemiten wird, der war schon längst
einer.

Aber natürlich ist das alles keineswegs auf Deutschland beschränkt.
In Frankreich, teilweise aber auch in Belgien, etwa hat der
Antisemitismus geradezu rasante Wachstumsraten aufzuweisen, ist
sozusagen die "Wachstumsbranche" schlechthin. Dort findet die
islamische Hasskampagne gegen Israel und gegen alle Juden offenbar
eine besonders große Resonanz.

Denn vom Islamismus - und alles Leugnen oder Verdrängen hilft hier
doch nicht weiter - bekommt der Antisemitismus von heute frische
Kraft und neues Feuer.

Die Neigung in Europa, islamistische Fehlentwicklungen,  einfach zu
ignorieren - oder soll man sagen: nicht einmal zu ignorieren? - ist
dabei besonders fatal und schändlich. Wie reagiert man denn in Europa
auf schlimmste Diktatur, brutale Folter, auf systematische, schier
unfassbare Unterdrückung von Frauen, von Kindern, von Andersdenkenden
ganz zu schweigen, in islamistisch regierten Ländern? Wohlwollendes
Schweigen, akute Beißhemmung, bemühtes Wegschauen. Feigheit und
Ängstlichkeit, ja auch Doppelmoral und Heuchelei - Appeasement pur.

Und wenn es dann auch noch um Länder geht, die über wirtschaftliche
Macht verfügen, sogar Erdöl exportieren - dann gibt es überhaupt
keine moralischen Bremsen mehr. In den allerletzten Wochen erst: Da
wird ein rundherum blutrünstiges, bösartiges Regime mit einem
Freundschaftsspiel der Fußball-Nationalmannschaft aufgewertet, und
ein berüchtigter, besonders brutaler Diktator, der vermutlich
wahnsinnig, sicher aber verantwortlich ist für Tausende von Mordtaten
weltweit, wird sogar durch einen großartigen Kanzlerbesuch beehrt.
Wir alle wissen doch: Würden diese Länder Bananen statt Erdöl
exportieren - kein Mensch würde sie derart unterwürfig hofieren. Aber
so? Öl statt Moral. Jene, wie etwa die Grünen, die so gerne von der
Moral in der Politik sprechen, habe ich zu diesem Thema jedenfalls
nicht gehört.

In Frankreich sind inzwischen mehrere Hundert Male Synagogen,
jüdische Schulen und Friedhöfe angegriffen worden. Antizionismus?
Aber was, bitteschön, haben Angriffe auf jüdische Bethäuser, jüdische
Friedhöfe und auf jüdische Kinder in Schulen in Frankreich denn
eigentlich mit dem Nah-Ost- Konflikt zu tun? Juden werden
angegriffen, weil sie Juden sind. Das ist Antisemitismus pur. Was
denn sonst? Und: Wird denn Antisemitismus etwa dadurch besser, oder
weniger schlimm, wenn die Täter selbst oft Außenseiter sind?

Der Antisemitismus in Europa insgesamt ist jedenfalls definitiv
stärker geworden, lauter, gefährlicher. Die "Europäische
Beobachtungsstelle für Rassismus und Fremdenfeindlichkeit" hat in
ihrer Studie vom April 2004 gerade das festgestellt. Dort ist zu
lesen, dass selbst in einigen Ländern, in denen es kaum
antisemitische Vorfälle gibt, der Antisemitismus dennoch in der
Bevölkerung oft besonders verbreitet und nachgerade populär ist. Das
gilt etwa für Österreich, was uns allen in dieser Hinsicht wohl
vertraut und ganz zu Recht übel beleumundet ist. Das gilt zum Teil
aber auch für ein Land wie Griechenland, wo die dortige orthodoxe
Kirche eine in dieser Hinsicht nicht immer hilfreiche Rolle spielt.
Das trifft aber auch für andere Länder zu.

Antisemitismus ist jedenfalls in Europa eindeutig aggressiver,
dreister, greller geworden, das ist nicht nur die Wahrnehmung
traumatisierter Juden (wobei gilt: selbst wer unter Verfolgungswahn
leiden sollte, kann durchaus wirklich verfolgt werden!).

Und die entscheidende Rolle spielt heutzutage der Islamismus, der
einen unversöhnlichen, ja tödlichen Hass auf Israel und auf alle
Juden predigt.

Aber schaut man sich einmal genauer die grauenhaften Hetztiraden in
arabischen Zeitungen an, die wahrhaft schauerlichen Fernsehsendungen,
die Hassgeschichten in palästinensischen Schulbüchern - teilweise und
zeitweise sogar mitfinanziert durch die EU, ein kolossaler Skandal
für sich! - die antisemitischen Karikaturen, praktischerweise direkt
dem "Stürmer" entnommen, so stellt man schnell fest: Nichts Neues
unter der Sonne.

Da ist der klassische Antisemitismus europäischer Provenienz wieder
auferstanden: die gleichen Wendungen bis in die Details hinein.

Und neu an diesem Antisemitismus ist nun lediglich, dass er heute so
stark über die islamistische Schiene transportiert wird: global,
total, machtvoll, voll marktschreierischem Hass.

Freilich: Das alles ist nichts anderes als der Re-Import des in
Europa erfundenen alten Antisemitismus mit den immer gleichen
Klischees:

Ritualmord, Jüdische Weltverschwörung, sogar die längst  vergilbten
"Protokolle der Weisen von Zion" (ein ausgesprochen dummes Machwerk
des zaristischen Geheimdienstes, vor genau hundert Jahren fabriziert)
werden wieder ausgegraben, werden reanimiert und exhumiert. Es sind
die immer gleichen Mechanismen: Denunzierung, Dämonisierung,
Stereotypisierung.

Antisemitismus hatte seine Quelle und mörderischen Wurzeln aber immer
in Europa. Doch inzwischen ist er zu einer weltweiten Krankheit
geworden - die Globalisierung umfasst mittlerweile auch den
schlimmsten Judenhass.

Freilich sollte nun niemand etwa denken, hier seien vom Islamismus
lediglich Israel und die Juden gemeint (beide werden hier
bezeichnenderweise immer als Synonym verwendet), und andere kämen so
einfach davon. Nein: Jeder modern lebenden Mensch, und insbesondere
jede selbstbestimmt lebende Frau, sind Ziel dieses feurigen Hasses.
Und der "Jude" ist lediglich Symbol für alles Moderne, ja ein
Codewort für ein modernes Leben in Freiheit. Für den Islamismus ist
Israel und sind die Juden nur populistische Feindbilder, mit denen
generell und universell jede Modernität, mit denen Liberalismus,
Freiheit, Gleichberechtigung bekämpft werden. Denn: Hier geht es um
einen Generalangriff aus der Finsternis des geistigen Mittelalters
auf die gerade in Europa so hoch gehaltenen Werte, auf Toleranz und
Aufklärung schlechthin.

Und doch scheint nun gerade in Europa das Gift islamistischer
Propaganda mehr und mehr aufzugehen.

Und wenn nun osteuropäische Länder, in denen auch die zigtausendfache
Komplizenschaft mit den Judenmorden nie richtig verarbeitet, oft
nicht einmal eingestanden wird, zur EU stoßen, so birgt das - so
schön und wünschenswert das alles ohne Zweifel ist - auch neue
Gefahren. Denn der Antisemitismus lebt in Osteuropa teilweise
ungeniert und ungebrochen weiter: Das gilt für Polen, das uns
inzwischen immer wieder zeigt, dass man zum Antisemitismus gar keine
Juden mehr braucht und wo die katholische Kirche schon immer und noch
immer in dieser Hinsicht allzu oft eine verwerfliche und
niederträchtige Rolle spielte und spielt, das gilt teilweise aber
auch für Ungarn, für Rümänien, für die Slowakei und für die
baltischen Länder auch.

In Europa sollte man die Sorgen der jüdischen Bürger besser ernst
nehmen. Denn Antisemitismus war in der Geschichte immer schon ein
Gradmesser, ein Indikator dafür, wie es um Toleranz und Freiheit in
der ganzen Gesellschaft bestellt ist.

Elie Wiesel hat dazu einmal gesagt: "Wir Juden haben dafür keine
Antennen. Wir sind die Antennen."

Antisemitismus ist eine Seuche, eine Pest, eine Krankheit der
Menschheit. Europa muss das Richtige tun und das Falsche unterlassen.
Nicht wegsehen. Nicht beschwichtigen.

Nicht verniedlichen. Nicht verharmlosen. Sondern: Offensiv und
entschlossen dagegen halten.

Das geschieht nun leider nicht immer. Dafür gibt es er viele
Beispiele. Aber: Warum in die Ferne schweifen - wenn ein schlechtes
Beispiel doch so nahe liegt. Vor genau einem Monat: Frankfurter
Buchmesse. Nun ist eine stärkere Kommunikation mit der arabischen
Welt ohne Zweifel nur zu begrüßen. Kommunikation ist allemal besser
als Konfrontation. Aber die Wahrheit ist doch auch: Ja, bei dieser
Messe wurde auch ganz offensichtlich antisemitische Literatur
ausgestellt. Die Messeleitung, darauf mehrfach angesprochen, stellte
sich taub und behauptete einfach, das sei nicht ganz klar. Nun: Da
wurde ein Buch, um nur ein Beispiel zu nennen, mit dem schönen Titel:
"The Sin of the Jews" angeboten. Zu lesen war in Büchern zum
Beispiel, "die jüdische Religion fordert die Vernichtung aller
Völker" und die Juden seien "sowohl die Mörder des Propheten wie auch
der größte Feind der Menschheit". Die Krönung fand freilich schon
gleich zu Beginn statt: Denn zur Eröffnung sprach der Bundeskanzler
und auch Mohammed Salmavy, ein weltweit bekannter, übler Antisemit
und ein notorischer Holocaust-Leugner. Darauf wurde mehrfach
hingewiesen. Die Veranstalter kümmerte das nicht. Bis heute nicht.
Dabei verdanken wir doch Mohammed Salmawy immerhin so wichtige
Einsichten wie etwa die  Behauptung, die Deutschen hätten die Juden
seinerzeit deportieren müssen, weil sie schließlich eine lästige
Bürde waren, die Öfen in Auschwitz - und damit wir uns alle richtig
verstehen: die Verbrennungsöfen für vorher vergaste Menschen! - hat
er tatsächlich vermessen und als zu klein befunden und den
weltberühmten Holocaust-Leugner David Irving immer aktiv unterstützt.
Vor nicht langer Zeit erst hat er einen Artikel veröffentlich mit dem
feinen Titel: "Cherchez les juifs." Ein solcher Mann eröffnet die
Frankfurter Buchmesse! Man fasst es nicht. Und alle, alle schweigen.
Natürlich: Die Veranstalter der Buchmesse sind mit Sicherheit über
jeden Verdacht des Antisemitismus erhaben. Aber sie haben ihn
schließlich doch auch ein Stück hingenommen, zugelassen, um des
lieben Friedens willen, wie sie ihn verstehen, aus Rücksicht, aus
Vorsicht. Ein schlechtes Beispiel für moralischen Anspruch, ein gutes
Beispiel für moralische Verirrung. Denn: Hinter dieser Haltung steht
anschaulich all das, was ich zuvor als so bedenklich beschrieben
habe: Wegschauen, Wegschauen-Wollen, Verharmlosen, aber auch: Angst,
Feigheit, Doppelmoral, Appeasement pur.

Wer den kleinen Antisemitismus toleriert, verharmlosend in Kauf
nimmt, wird den großen Antisemitismus mit Sicherheit niemals
aufhalten.

Nein: Hier darf es einfach keine Kompromisse geben. Wer hier mit
Kompromissen auch nur beginnt, hat die Schlacht schon verloren.

Antisemitismus muss klar benannt und geächtet werden.

Und Antisemiten, so wichtig sie auch scheinen, gebührt generell keine
prominente Plattform, auch keine großartige Beachtung - sondern nur
Verachtung.

Ich weiß: Solche Sätze sind oft leichter gesagt als umgesetzt.

Aber hier geht es am Ende doch um eine ganz grundsätzliche
Einstellung, die nichtnur gedacht und gefordert werden soll, sondern
immer wieder gelebt werden muss - allen Versuchungen und allen
Widerständen zum Trotz.

mfg Martin Blumentritt http://www.martinblumentritt.de/

"Die Antisemiten vergeben es den Juden nicht, daß die Juden  Geist 
haben - und Geld. Die Antisemiten - ein Name der  Schlechtweggekommenen."
(F.Nietzsche)


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Aren't you stinking child molestor Englisman Grosvenor from Edmonton, 
Alberta, Canada?

How come you are walking free?

"ArthurFranks"  wrote in message 
news:k6qs23hcj9fc3sivh4fg2t067h9c9pkohd@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 04:26:45 GMT, in alt.revisionism "abc" 
> wrote:
>
> "Within five minutes, any intelligent, open-minded person can be convinced
> that the Holocaust gassings of World War II are a profitable hoax.
>
> Fred A. Leuchter is America's leading specialist on the design and
> fabrication of execution equipment, including homicidal gas chambers. In
> 1988, Leuchter scraped samples from the alleged gas chamber walls in
> Auschwitz, Birkenau and Lublin. Cyanide residue would be clearly evident 
> on
> all these walls if gassings did occur. To his astonishment, Leuchter found
> no significant cyanide traces in any one of these rooms.
>
> In 1991, the Polish government repeated these tests to disprove Leuchter's
> findings, but they as well found no evidence of any gassings ever 
> occurring.
>
> The structural integrity of these "gas chambers" is also extremely faulty.
> These rooms have ordinary doors and windows which are not hermetically
> sealed! There are large gaps between the floors and doors. If the Germans
> had attempted to gas anyone in these rooms, they would have died 
> themselves,
> as the gas would have leaked and contaminated the entire area. Also, no
> equipment exists to exhaust the air-gas mixture from these buildings.
> Nothing was made to introduce or distribute the gas throughout the 
> chambers.
> There are no provisions to prevent condensation of gas on the walls, 
> floors
> or ceilings. No exhaust stacks have ever existed.
>
> Though six million Jews supposedly died in the gas chambers, not one body
> has ever been autopsied and found to have died of gas poisoning. We have
> been shown piles of bodies from World War II, but most of these persons 
> died
> of typhus or starvation or Allied bombings and a great many of those were
> murdered Germans, not Jews. Roughly the equivalent of ten football fields
> should be packed full of gassed bodies to present as evidence, yet not one
> body has ever been discovered.
>
> The Germans documented everything in meticulous detail from shrubbery to
> arbors, but no pre-war or wartime plans or documents exist that detail or
> even mention any gas chambers for reasons of genocide. All documents ever
> presented were drawn up AFTER the war.
>
> Even if we threw away all the evidence and accounted for every so-called 
> gas
> chamber, it would have taken 68 YEARS to accomplish gassing six million
> Jews!
>
> Even The Diary of Anne Frank is a hoax. Portions of the diary were written
> with a ball point pen. These pens were not in use at the time Anne Frank
> lived.
>
> It is not denied concentration camps existed. Tragically, many died of
> typhus or starvation, as often happens in such situations. There is,
> however, no evidence that any gassings occurred for the reasons of 
> genocide.
>
> Israel continues to receive trillions of dollars worldwide as retribution
> for Holocaust gassings. Our country has donated more money to Israel than 
> to
> any other country in the history of the world -- over $35 billion per 
> year,
> everything included. If not for our extravagantly generous gifts to 
> Israel,
> every family in America could afford a brand new Mercedes Benz. Surely the
> American people would be outraged if they realized their hard-earned money
> is being squandered in these difficult times.
>
> With all this money at stake for Israel, it is easy to comprehend why this
> Holocaust hoax is so secretly guarded. The Jewish name for Holocaust is
> "Shoah." In Zionist circles, it is known as "Shoah Business." If nothing
> else, this unbelievable coverup demonstrates the irrepressible Zionist
> influence and control of our country. Their only defense against the facts
> is to cry out "antisemitic," "Skinhead" or "Nazi," whereas the majority of
> those who question the Holocaust are ordinary citizens...though you would
> never know it from the media.
>
> In whatever way you can, please help shatter this profitable myth. It is
> time we stop sacrificing America's welfare for the sake of Israel and 
> spend
> our hard-earned dollars on Americans.
>
> (For more information contact The Institute for Historical Review P.O. Box
> 2739 Newport Beach, CA 92659 USA).
>
> There are compelling reasons to believe that the so-called holocaust never
> existed. Page 223, in The Diary of Anne Frank, (Pan Horizons edition, Pan
> Books Ltd., London, 1989), indicates that the size of Auschwitz, the most
> notorious of all German work camps, WAS VERY SMALL, with only 11,000 
> people
> (many of whom may not even have been Jews) being evacuated by the Germans 
> at
> the time of the Russian advance in 1945. Certainly, compared to 
> Spielberg's
> film, Schindler's List (which Emilie Schindler, Oskar's widow, said was 
> full
> of lies), and other Jewish propaganda, that millions upon millions of Jews
> were systematically exterminated, 11,000 people is a very small number.
> Simple arithmetic tells us that the Germans would have had to have had
> hundreds of camps, or else they would have had to exterminate 137 people 
> PER
> HOUR, in order for six million Jews to have been exterminated at such 
> small
> camps as Auschwitz, a feat that would have been humanly impossible
> considering that, according to Douglas Reed's Behind the Scene and The
> Controversy of Zion, a mere 850,000 soldiers and others were killed by the
> entire German and Japanese war machines combined during WW2 (see p.397-400
> of Douglas Reed's book Controversy of Zion). People who would believe the
> Jewish propaganda that six million Jews were exterminated by Hitler must
> KEEP IN MIND THE SMALL SCALE CONSTRUCTION OF AUSCHWITZ AND THE VERY FEW
> OTHER GERMAN WORK CAMPS THAT EXISTED DURING WW2.
> On July 13, 1994, a documentary on the life of Charles A. Lindbergh
> broadcast on the Public Broadcast System (PBS - KENW-TV) said that when
> Lindbergh visited one of these few camps in Germany following WW2, he was
> told that 25,000 died in 1-1/2 years. Again, simple arithmetic tells us 
> that
> 25,000 times a half dozen camps does not equal 6,000,000. In fact, it
> doesn't even equal 600,000. . . .
>
> It is an interesting fact that the number of so-called persecuted Jews 
> KEEPS
> INCREASING. Hal Greenwald, program director for the Hillel Foundation at
> Duke University, a Jewish student group, has been promoting the idea that
> NINE MILLION JEWS WERE EXTERMINATED IN HITLER'S GAS CHAMBERS (New York
> Times, Nov. 9, 1991, AP). NOW IT'S 9 MILLION AND GROWING. ..JUST LIKE OUR
> DEBT/TAX MONEY SUPPLY...THE NUMBERS JUST KEEP COMING OUT OF THIN AIR. .
> .(The Bible Caused Economic and Financial Slavery in the New World Order 
> by
> Lee Cheney)".
>
>
>
> Read the entire article online in depth:
>
> http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/holohoax.htm
>
> 




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Aren't you stinking child molestor Englisman Grosvenor from Edmonton, 
Alberta, Canada?

How come you are walking free?


"ArthurFranks"  wrote in message 
news:hkqs23hsohblh0ir3vrcel37sbt3oge8v7@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 12:59:13 +0100, in de.soc.politik.misc egon-karl 
> ullrich
>  wrote:
>
> Ein Teil der Auflösung des 'Rätsel - ja-wie-kann-denn-der-sowas-sagen-?'
> ist ja bereits veröffentlicht im Artikelstran "Der Jude ist ein Parasit"
> (wer lesen kann und will ist klar im Vorteil, der meist dämliche Spruch
> trifft hier mal wirklich zu), dort gibts auch ein zion. Original-Buch
> zum runterladen:
>
> Es handelt sich in den "Subjects" um Zitate aus der zionistischen
> Literatur von zionistischen Philosophen und zion. Vordenkern bzw. aus
> der unangefochtenen Fachliteratur über den Zionismus bzw. über die zion.
> Ideologie. Und die zitierten sind noch harmlos, statt "dreckiger Hund",
> kann man auch übersetzen "stinkender Hund", lt. 'LEO.dict'
>
> Wer meine Schriften kennt, dem war das auch von Anfang an klar. Anfänger
> und Deppen gibts aber auch hier in dieser NG.
>
>
> Hier der Beweis aus dem marxistischen Bereich (eigentl. jüd.-marx.
> Bereich) des Herkunftsjuden Lenni Brenner, Wissenschaftsjournalist:
>
> (aus dem Englischen)
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> Lenni Brenner
>
> Zionismus im Zeitalter der Diktatoren
> (Zionism in the Age of the Dictators)
>
>
> 2. Blut und Boden (Blood and Soil)
>
>
> Die Wurzeln des zionistischen Rassismus
>
>
> Es war der Antisemitismus - alleine - welcher den Zionismus begründete.
> Herzl konnte seine Bewegung in keiner Weise auf irgendeinem positiven
> jüdischen Selbstverständnis aufbauen.
>
> Obwohl er die Unterstützung durch die Rabbiner anstrebte, war er
> persönlich nicht gläubig. Er hatte kein besonderes Interesse an
> Palästina, dem antiken Heimatland; er war ganz erpicht darauf, daß das
> kenianische Hochland akzeptiert wird, zumindest auf einer zeitweiligen
> Grundlage. Er hatte kein Interesse an Hebräisch; er betrachtete seinen
> jüdischen Staat als ein sprachliches Abbild der Schweiz.
>
> Der Rassengedanke lag für ihn in der Luft; die deutschen Antisemiten
> sprachen von den Juden als Rasse, bald jedoch verwarf er diese Doktrin
> und nutzte in einer paradoxen Diskussion Israel Zangwill, einen seiner
> frühesten Gefolgsleute, als ein Beispiel für seine Ablehnung dieser
> Idee. Er beschrieb den englisch-jüdischen Autor so:
>
> "... vom langnasigen Neger-Typ, mit wolligem, tief-schwarzem Haar ... er
> stützt jedoch den Rassegedanken - manches daran kann ich gelten lassen,
> ich muß lediglich ihn und dann wieder mich anschauen. Alles was ich
> sagen kann: wir sind eine historische Einheit, eine Nation mit
> anthropologischer Vielfalt." [1]
>
>
> Unbekümmert von religiösen Überlegungen, schlug er einen Atheisten, den
> damals weltberühmten Autor Max Nordau, als seinen Nachfolger als
> Präsident der WZO (Zionistische Weltorganisation) vor.
>
>
> Und wieder waren die Jünger weniger liberal als ihr Herr.
>
> Nordau war mit einer Christin verheiratet und befürchtete, daß sich die
> Orthodoxen auf allen Ebenen daran stoßen würden. Er war bereits
> verheiratet, als er zum Zionismus konvertierte und wurde bald, trotz
> seiner nichtjüdischen Ehefrau, ein anerkannter jüdischer Rassist.
>
> Am 21. Dezember 1903 gab er Eduard Drumonts radikal antisemitischer
> Zeitung 'La Libre Parole' ein Interview, in welchem er sagte, daß der
> Zionismus keine Sache der Religion sondern der Rassen-Exklusivität sei
> und "es gibt keinen, mit welchem ich in größerer Übereinstimmung in
> diesem Punkt stehe, als M. Drupont". [3]
>
> Obwohl sich nur ein einziger nationaler Ableger der WZO (der
> holländische Verband im Jahr 1913) jemals darum bemühte, die Juden,
> welche in gemischten Ehen lebten, auszuschließen, starb der
> kosmopolitische Zionismus einen frühen Tod mit Herzl im Jahr 1904. [4]
>
>
> Die Bewegung in Osteuropa, ihre Massenbasis, teilte die spontanen
> volks-religiösen Vorurteile der orthodoxen Gemeinden ihres Umfeldes.
>
> Obwohl die traditionellen Juden Missionierung kannten und Ehen mit
> Nicht-Juden als Verstärkung ihrer Glaubenskraft ansahen, brachte später
> von der katholischen Kirche ausgehender Druck die Rabbiner dazu,
> Konvertierungen als "lästiges Jucken" zu betrachten und sie stellten die
> Missionierung ein.
>
> Im Laufe der Jahrhunderte, wurde die Selbst-Abgrenzung zum Kennzeichen
> der Juden. Mit der Zeit betrachteten die Massen Mischehen als Verrat an
> der Orthodoxie. Obwohl im Westen nur manche Juden die Religion
> abwandelten und "Reform"-Sekten bildeten sowie andere sich vom Gott
> ihrer Vorväter gänzlich abwandten, ging der Lauf im Wesentlichen weg vom
> Judaismus.
>
> Wenige nur stießen zur jüdischen Welt hinzu, entweder durch
> Konvertierung oder Heiraten.
>
> Obschon der westliche Zionismus sich in einer mehr säkularen Atmosphäre
> entwickelte als jener Ost-Europas, betrachtete die Masse seiner
> Mitglieder Misch-Ehen eher als Wegführung der Juden von der Gemeinde
> denn als Hinzufügung zu ihr.
>
> Die deutschen Akademiker, welche die zionistische Bewegung nach Herzls
> Tod übernahmen, entwickelten die modernistisch-rassistische Ideologie
> vom jüdischen Separatismus [Loslösungsstreben].
>
> Sie waren stark beeinflußt von ihren pan-germanischen Studenten-Kollegen
> der 'Wandervögel' (Zugvögel oder Freigeister), welche den deutschen
> Campus vor 1914 dominierten. Diese Chauvinisten wiesen die Juden als
> nicht von germanischem Blut zurück; folglich konnten sie niemals Teil
> des Deutschen Volkes sein und waren grundsätzlich Fremde auf deutschem
> Boden. Alle jüdischen Studenten waren gezwungen, sich mit diesen
> Konzepten, welche sie umringten, auseinander zu setzen.
>
> Ein paar bewegten sich nach links und wurden Sozialdemokraten. Für jene
> war dies [der Wandervögel-Chauvinismus, Anm. eku] nur ein mehr
> bourgeoiser Nationalismus und war als solcher zu bekämpfen.
>
> Die meisten blieben herkömmlich kaisertreu, standhafte Nationalisten,
> welche darauf beharrten, daß tausend Jahre auf deutschem Boden aus ihnen
> "Deutsche mosaischen Glaubens" gemacht hatten.
>
> Aber ein Anteil der jüdischen Studenten eignete sich die
> 'Wandervögel'-Ideologie an und übertrug sie einfach in zionistische
> Terminologie.
>
> Sie stimmten mit den Antisemiten in mehreren Punkten überein: die Juden
> waren kein Teil des Deutschen Volkes und, natürlich, Juden und Deutsche
> sollten sich nicht geschlechtlich vermischen, nicht aus den traditionell
> religiösen Gründen, sondern um der Reinheit ihres eigenen einzigartigen
> Blutes willen.
>
> Da nicht von deutschem Blut, hätten sie zwangsläufig ihren eigenen Boden
> zu bekommen: Palästina.
>
> Auf den ersten Blick schien es befremdlich, daß jüdische Studenten aus
> der Mittel-Klasse derart beeinflußt durch antisemitisches Gedankengut
> sein sollten, besonders, da zur selben Zeit der Sozialismus mit seiner
> assimilationistischen Haltung gegenüber den Juden beträchtliche
> Unterstützung in der Gesellschaft um sie herum gewann.
>
> Der Sozialismus appelierte jedoch vorwiegend an die Arbeiter, nicht an
> die Mittel-Klasse; in ihrer Umwelt herrschte der Chauvinismus vor,
> obwohl intellektuell, lehnten sie ihre Verbindung zum Deutschen Volk ab,
> und in der Tat, niemals emanzipierten sie sich von der deutschen
> Kapitalistenklasse, den ganzen Ersten Weltkrieg hindurch unterstüzten
> sie leidenschaftlich ihre eigene Regierung.
>
>
> [Anm. eku: s.a. "Max-Bodenheimer-Archiv". Deutsche Zionisten bilden im
> 1. WK mittels maßgeblicher Beteiligung der Kölner Fam. Bodenheimer
> (=zionistisches Establishment) Unterstützungskommitee, dieses reist an
> die Ostfront, bildet Judenräte in den befreiten Gebieten Polens, nennt
> die Juden Europas "Deutsche" oder "deutschenfreundlich" und - nicht
> zuletzt - sitzt buchstäblich als Ehren-Gast an Kaisers Esstisch!]
>
>
> In all ihrem grandiosen intellektuellen Anspruch, war ihr völkischer
> Zionismus doch nur einfach eine Imitation der deutschen
> nationalistischen Ideologie. Deshalb war der junge Philosoph Martin
> Buber fähig, während dem Ersten Weltkrieg den Zionismus mit inbrünstigem
> deutschen Patriotismus zu verbinden.
>
> In seinem Buch 'Drei Reden über das Judentum', veröffentlicht im Jahre
> 1911, sprach Buber über einen Jugendlichen, der:
>
> "einen Sinn hat für die Unsterblichkeit der Generationen einer
> Blutgemeinschaft, welche er als Vorgänger seines Ich empfindet, dessen
> Ausdauer wird unendlich währen.
>
> Hinzu kommt die Entdeckung, befördert durch sein Bewußtsein, daß Blut
> eine tief verwurzelte, nährende Kraft im Inneren jedes einzelnen
> Menschen ist;
>
> daß die tiefsten Schichten unseres Seins vom Blut bestimmt sind;
>
> daß unser innerstes Denken und unser Wille davon gefärbt sind.
>
> Jetzt findet er heraus, daß die Welt um ihn eine Welt der Eindrücke und
> Einflüsse ist, wohingegen Blut das Reich einer beeinflußbaren und
> beeindruckbaren Substanz ist, einer Sustanz die alles in ihre eigene
> Form aufnimmt und anpasst, und, wer auch immer, vor die Wahl, Umgebung
> oder Blut gestellt, sich für die Substanz entscheidet, fortan ein wahrer
> Jude aus seinem Innersten sein muß, um zu leben als ein Jude mit all den
> Widersprüchen, der Tragödie und all der späteren Verheißung seines
> Blutes" [5]
>
> [Anm. eku: naturgemäß unvollkommene Rückübersetzung, werde noch
> versuchen, den Originaltext Bubers zu bekommen...]
>
> Die Juden leben in Europa seit Jahrtausenden, weit länger, sagen wir
> mal, als die Ungarn. Niemand träumte davon, sich auf die Ungarn als
> Asiaten zu beziehen, jedoch, so Buber, die Juden Europas wären noch
> Asiaten und würden es voraussichtlich immer bleiben.
>
> "Du kannst den Juden aus Palästina rauskriegen, aber niemals Palästina
> raus aus dem Juden."
>
>
> Im Jahr 1916 schrieb Buber, daß der Jude:
>
> "vertrieben wurde aus seinem Land und über die Länder des Abendlandes
> verstreut wurde, jedoch, trotz all dem, blieb er ein Orientale. Man kann
> all dies im noch so sehr assimlierten Juden entdecken, wenn man Zugang
> zu seiner Seele gewinnt ... der unvergängliche, allen Juden gemeinsame
> Trieb - dieser wird in das Sein einkehren nach einer Fortdauer des
> Lebens in Palästina ... Sobald der Trieb mit seiner Mutters Scholle in
> Berührung kommt, wird er wieder schöpferisch." [6]
>
> Bubers völkischer Zionismus, mit seinen ausgesuchten Strängen mystischen
> Überschwangs, war jedoch zu vergeistigt um ein breites Publikum
> anzusprechen.
>
> Was gebraucht wurde, war eine populäre zionistische Version des
> Sozial-Darwinismus, welcher die bourgoise intellektuelle Welt des
> aufbrechenden europäischen imperialen Wettbewerbs nach Afrika und nach
> Osten überschwemmte.
>
> Die zionistische Version dieser Auffassung wurde von dem
> österreichischen Anthropologen Ignatz Zollschan entwickelt. Für ihn war
> der verborgene Nutzen des Judaismus, daß jener, obgleich unabsichtlich,
> das Wunder der Wunder bewirken würde:
>
> "Eine Nation von reinem Blut, unverdorben von den Krankheiten des
> Exzesses oder der Unmoral, von einem hoch entwickelten Sinn für
> familiäre Reinheit und von tief verwurzelten tugendhaften Gewohnheiten
> würde eine außergewöhnliche geistige Regsamkeit entwickeln.
> Darüberhinaus sorgt das Verbot der Mischehen dafür, daß dieser
> höchst-ethische Schatz durch reinmixen von weniger umsichtig
> hervorgebrachten Rassen nicht verloren geht ... daraus resultiert eine
> naturgemäße Auswahl, welche keine Parallele in der Geschichte der
> menschlichen Rasse findet ... Wenn eine Rasse, die so hoch beschenkt
> ist, die Gelegenheit bekommt, erneut ihre ursprüngliche Kraft zu
> entwickeln, kann dem nichts gleichkommen, soweit es den kulturellen Wert
> anbelangt." [7]
>
> Sogar Albert Einstein unterschrieb die zionistischen Rassenkonzepte,
> damit verstärkte er den Rassismus und verlieh ihm das Prestige seiner
> Reputation. Seine eigenen Beiträge zur Diskussion klingen entsprechend
> tiefsinnig, sie beruhen jedoch auf dem selben Unsinn.
>
> "Nationen mit rassischen Unterschieden scheinen Instinkte zu besitzen,
> welche gegen ihre Verschmelzung wirken. Die Assimilation der Juden in
> die europäischen Nationen ... konnte nicht das Gefühl eines Mangels an
> Verwandtschaft zwischen ihnen und jenen, unter denen sie lebten,
> beseitigen. Letzten Endes ist das instinktive Gefühl des fehlenden
> Verwandschaftsverhältnisses auf das Gesetz der Energieerhaltung
> zurückzuführen. Aus diesem Grund kann es [das instinktive Mangelgefühl,
> Anm. eku] durch keinen noch so wohlmeinenden Druck ausgerottet werden." 
> [8]
>
> Buber, Zollschan und Einstein waren nur drei der klassischen Zionisten,
> welche hochtrabend gelehrt über Rassen-Reinheit redeten. Jedoch konnte
> der schiere Fanatismus Einiger nicht den des Amerikaners Maurice Samuel
> einholen.
>
> Als ein gut bekannter Autor jener Zeit - später, in den 1940er Jahren
> arbeitete er mit Weizman an dessen Autobiographie - wendete sich Samuel
> im Jahre 1927 in seinem Werk, 'Ich, der Jude', an die amerikanische
> Öffentlichkeit. Er denunzierte mit Horror eine Stadt, der er
> bereitwillig zugestand, daß er sie nur vom Hörensagen kannte - und von
> der uns die vorgelegten Hinweise nahelegen, daß es sich um die
> ungebunden lebende Künstler-Kolonie bei Taos, Neu-Mexiko, handelt:
>
> "Auf diesem kleinen Platz kamen Repräsentanten der afrikanischen Neger,
> der Amerikaner und der chinesischen Mongolen zusammen, der Semite und
> der Arier ... freie Mischehen setzen sich durch ... Warum erfüllt mich
> dieses Bild, teils wirklich, teils phantastisch, mit einem befremdenden
> Abscheu, suggeriert es das Ekelerregende, das düstere Bestialische? ...
> Wieso ruft dieses Dorf, wie meine Phantasie heraufbeschwört, den
> Gedanken an einen Haufen Reptilien hervor, die hässlich in einem
> Wasserkübel brüten?" [9]
>
>
>
> "Um ein guter Zionist zu sein, muß man ein bißchen Antisemit sein"
>
>
> Obwohl 'Blut' ein wiederkehrendes Thema in der zionistischen
> vor-Holokaust-Literatur war, war dieses nicht so zentral wie die
> Botschaft vom 'Boden'.
>
> Solange Amerikas Grenzen [relativ, Anm. eku] offen blieben, fragten
> Europas Juden: wenn der Antisemitismus nicht in seiner Heimat bekämpft
> werden konnte, warum sollten sie nicht einfach der Menge nach Amerika
> folgen?
>
> Die zionistische Antwort war doppelt gewappnet: Antisemitismus würde die
> Juden begleiten, wohin immer sie auch gingen, und, darüberhinaus, es
> waren die Juden selbst, welche den Antisemitismus durch ihre eigene
> Charackteristik hervor riefen.
>
> Die Wurzel des Antisemitismus, beharrten die Zionisten, war die jüdische
> Exil-Existenz.
>
> Die Juden lebten parasitär von ihren "Wirtsvölkern". Es gäbe so gut wie
> keine jüdischen Bauern in der Diaspora. Die Juden lebten in den Städten,
> sie waren der manuellen Arbeit entfremdet, oder, um es unverblümt zu
> sagen, sie mieden diese und beschäftigten sich lieber mit
> intellektuellen oder kommerziellen Angelegenheiten. Ihre Beanspruchung
> des Patriotismus war bestenfalls hohl, da sie ewig von Land zu Land
> wanderten. Und als sie selbst sich einbildeten, sie wären Sozialisten
> und Internationalisten, waren sie in Wirklichkeit nicht mehr als die
> Mittelsmänner der Revolution, welche die "Schlachten anderer Leute"
> ausfochten.
>
> Diese zusammengefaßten Lehren waren bekannt als 'Shelilat Ha'galut' [Die
> Verneinung der Diaspora], an der sich das gesamte Spektrum der Zionisten
> festhielt, nur in Details variiert.
>
> Sie wurden in der zionistischen Presse energisch vertreten, in der die
> ausgeprägte Qualität vieler Artikel aus der Feindseligkeit gegenüber dem
> gesamten jüdischen Volk bestand. Wenn irgendjemand diese Fetzen ohne
> Kenntnis der Quellen las, würde er automatisch vermuten, daß sie der
> antisemitischen Presse entstammten.
>
> Die 'Weltanschauung' der Jugendorganisation 'Hashomer Hatzair' [Junge
> Wächter], ursprünglich verfaßt im Jahr 1917, allerdings erst 1936 wieder
> neu veröffentlicht, war typisch für diese Art Ergüsse:
>
> "Der Jude ist die Karikatur eines normalen, natürlichen Menschen, in
> physischer wie spiritueller Hinsicht. Als Einzelwesen in der
> Gesellschaft rebelliert er und wirft die gesellschaftlichen Bindungen
> ab, er kennt weder Ordnung noch Disziplin." [10]
>
>
> Ganz ähnlich konnte so im Jahre 1935 Ben Frommer, ein Autor der
> ultra-rechten zionistisch-revisionistischen Bewegung, nicht weniger als
> 16 Millionen seiner Mit-Juden [offenbar wurde seine Erklärung weltweit
> verbreitet, Anm. eku] erklären, daß:
>
> "Die Tatsache ist unabweisbar, daß die Juden kollektiv krank und
> neurotisch sind. Jene Berufs-Juden, welche nun erschüttert diese
> Wahrheit entrüstet zurückweisen, sind die größten Feinde ihrer Rasse,
> denn sie führen sie dadurch auf die Suche nach falschen Lösungen oder
> zumeist nur nach Beschönigungen." [11]
>
> Diese Art des jüdischen Selbsthasses durchsetzte einen großen Teil des
> zionistischen Schrifttums.
>
> Im Jahre 1934 erregte Yehezkel Kaufman - damals berühmt als Gelehrter
> für biblische Geschichte an der Hebräischen Universität zu Jerusalem,
> und obwohl selbst Zionist, dennoch ein Gegner der bizarren Theorie der
> Negation der Diaspora - wütende Kontroversen durch eine Auswahl der
> hebräischen Literatur mit noch schlimmeren Beispielen.
>
> Auf Hebräisch konnten die pathetischen Schreiber ihre Mit-Juden ohne
> Furcht vor dem Vorwurf, den Judenhassern Munition zu liefern, regelrecht
> zur Sau machen. Kaufmans 'Hurban Hanefesh' (Holokaust der Seele) zitiert
> dazu drei der klassisch-zionistischen Vordenker.
>
> Für Micah Yosef Berdichevsky waren die Juden "keine Nation, kein Volk,
> keine Menschen".
>
> Für Yosef Chaim Brenner waren sie nicht mehr als "Zigeuner, dreckige
> Hunde, nicht-menschlich, erbärmliche Hunde".
>
> Für Aaron David Gordon war sein Volk nicht besser als "Parasiten,
> grundsätzlich unnütze Leute". [12]
>
> [Anm. eku: dieses Buch Kaufmans, wohl als eine Kritik an den
> zionistischen Pöbeleien gemeint, hatte Julius Streicher lt. Text der
> Webseite der frommen, ultra-orthodoxen Juden, JewsAgainstZionism,
> gekannt, aus dieser Quell hatte Streicher offenbar eine Reihe seiner
> Beschreibungen und Ausdrücke für die Juden gewonnen]
>
> Natürlich mußte Maurice Samuel seine Schönschrift einbringen, um
> Verleumdungen gegen seine Mit-Juden zusammen zu brauen.
>
> Im Jahr 1924 fabrizierte er in seinem Werk 'Ihr Nicht-Juden' (You
> Gentiles) eine von ihrem eigenen bösartigen Schöpfer gegen die
> christliche Ordnung angetriebene Judenheit:
>
> "Wir Juden, wir, die Zerstörer, werden für immer die Zerstörer bleiben.
> Egal was ihr macht, nie wird es unserem Anspruch genügen. Ewig werden
> wir zerstören, denn wir brauchen unsere eigene Welt, eine Gottes-Welt,
> zu deren Erschaffung ihr nicht veranlagt seid ... jene von uns, welche
> diese Wahrheit nicht begreifen, werden sich immer wiederfinden in
> Allianz mit euren rebellischen Gruppen, bis die Desillusionierung kommt,
> unser elendes Schicksal, welches uns in eurer Mitte verstreute, hat uns
> diese unwillkommene Rolle aufgedrängt." [13]
>
>
> Der Labour-Zionismus [linke, nicht-marxistische Strömung] brachte seine
> eigene einzigartige Sorte des jüdischen Selbsthasses hervor.
>
> Trotz seines Namens und Anspruches, war der Labour-Zionismus niemals
> fähig, einen signifikanten Anteil der jüdischen Arbeiterklasse in auch
> nur irgendeinem Land der Diaspora für sich einzunehmen.
>
> Seine Mitglieder führten ein selbst-widerlegendes Argument an: sie
> behaupteten, daß die jüdischen Arbeiter nur in "marginalen" Industrien
> beschäftigt seien, in solchen wie der Nadel-Industrie [Nadeln für
> Textilherstellung und Grammophone, Anm. eku], welche keine wesentliche
> Bedeutung für die VolksWirtschaften der "Wirts"-Nationen hatten, daher
> würden die jüdischen Arbeiter immerwährend marginal für die
> Arbeiterbewegung in den Ländern ihres Aufenthalts bleiben.
>
> Jüdische Arbeiter, so wurde behauptet, könnten einen "gesunden"
> Klassenkampf nur in ihrem eigenen Land wagen.
>
> Arme Juden zeigten natürlich wenig Interesse an einer sogenannten
> Arbeiter-Bewegung, welche ihnen nicht etwa erzählte, mit allem was sie
> vermochten für die Verbesserung der gegenwärtigen Bedingungen zu
> kämpfen, sondern sich eher um das weit entfernte Palästina zu sorgen.
>
> Der Ruf der zionistischen Arbeiter-Bewegung richtete sich paradoxerweise
> primär an jene jungen Mittelklasse-Juden, welche den Bruch zu ihrer
> Herkunfts-Klasse suchten, war jedoch nicht bereit, sich dann den
> Arbeitern der Länder ihres Aufenthalts zu zuwenden.
>
> Der Labour-Zionismus wurde so eine Art Gegenkultur-Sekte, welche die
> jüdischen Marxisten wegen deren Internationalismus und die jüdische
> Mittelklasse als parasitische Ausbeuter der "Wirts"völker anprangerte.
>
> Im Endeffekt übertrugen sie den traditionellen Antisemitismus ins
> Jiddische: die Juden waren in den falschen Ländern in den falschen
> Berufen und machten die falsche Politik.
>
> Es brauchte den Holokaust, um diesem Gejammer einen Sinn zu geben.
>
> Erst dann erkannten sie den gemeinsamen Nenner in ihrer eigenen
> Botschaft und der anti-jüdischen Propaganda der Nazis.
>
> Im März 1942 gestand Chaim Greenberg, zu der Zeit Herausgeber des
> Labour-zionistischen Presse-Organs 'Jewish Frontier' in New York,
> schmerzlich ein, daß es tatsächlich
>
> "eine Zeit [gegeben hat,] als es für zionistische Sprecher
> (einschließlich den Schreiber) modisch war, von ihrem Standpunkt aus zu
> erklären, 'um ein guter Zionist zu sein, muß man ein bißchen Antisemit
> sein'. Bis zu diesem Tag stehen die zionistischen Labour-Kreise unter
> dem Einfluß der Vorstellung, daß die Rückkehr nach Zion einen Prozeß der
> Reinigung von unseren ökonomischen Unsauberkeiten einschließt. Jeden,
> der keine sogenannte 'produktive' manuelle Arbeit ergreift, hält man für
> einen Sünder gegen das Volk Israel und gegen die Menschheit." [14]
>
>
>
> [b]"Wasser auf die Mühlen der Nazi-Propaganda"[/b]
>
> Wenn irgendjemandem ohne weitere Fakten erzählt würde, daß die ersten
> Zionisten Rassisten waren, würde derjenige automatisch vermuten, daß
> dies ein Teil der kolonialistischen Seite des Zionismus in Palästina sei.
>
> Tatsächlich ist dem nicht so; Der 'Blut-Zionismus' hätte sich auch
> entwickelt, wenn Palästina komplett unbewohnt gewesen wäre. Die
> Begeisterung für 'Blut und Boden' war bereits Teil des Zionismus, bevor
> der erste moderne Zionist jemals Europa verließ.
>
> Der Rassen-Zionismus hingegen war ein merkwürdiger Ableger des
> Rassen-Antisemitismus.
>
> Gewiß, so argumentierten die Zionisten, die Juden waren eine reine
> Rasse, bestimmt reiner als, sagen wir mal, die Deutschen, die einen
> großen Zuschlag slawischen Blutes besaßen, wie sogar die All-Deutschen
> eingestanden. Für diese Zionisten konnte jedoch noch nicht mal ihr
> Glaube an die Rassen-Reinheit den einen Makel der jüdischen Existenz
> überspielen: die Juden verfügten nicht über ihren eigenen jüdischen Boden.
>
> Wenn die teutonischen Rassisten sich als 'Übermenschen' sehen konnten,
> sahen diese hebräischen Rassisten die Juden eben nicht in diesem Licht;
> eher war das Gegenteil der Fall.
>
> Sie glaubten, daß wegen des Fehlens eines eigenen Bodens die Juden
> "Untermenschen" wären, daher wären diese, aus der Sicht ihrer "Wirte",
> wenig mehr als Blutsauger: die Welt-Pest eben.
>
> Wenn man an den Wahrheitsgehalt der rassischen Exklusivität glaubt,
> fällt es schwer, etwas gegen den Rassismus von irgendjemand anderem
> einzuwenden.
>
> Wenn man weiters daran glaubt, daß es für ein Volk unmöglich ist, gesund
> zu bleiben, außer in seinem eigenen Heimatland, kann man nichts gegen
> irgendeinen anderen einwenden, der "Fremde" von seinem Territorium
> ausschließt.
>
> Tatsächlich jedoch dachte der Durchschnitts-Zionist selbst niemals
> daran, das zivilisierte Europa zu verlassen, um es gegen die Wildnis
> Palästinas einzutauschen. In Wirklichkeit ist es offensichtlich, daß ihm
> die zionistische 'Blut und Boden'-Ideologie eine vortreffliche
> Begründung lieferte, den Antisemitismus nicht auf dessen Heimatboden zu
> bekämpfen: Es war nicht der Fehler der Antisemiten, es kam von dem
> eigenen Pech der Juden, ihrem Dasein im Exil.
>
> Die Zionisten konnten tränenreich darlegen, daß in dem Verlust
> Palästinas die Wurzel des Antisemitismus lag und die Wiedergewinnung
> Palästinas die einzige Lösung der Judenfrage wäre. Alles andere könne
> nur Beschönigung sein oder zwecklos.
>
> Walter Laqueur, Wortführer der zionistischen Historiker, fragte in
> seinem Buch, 'A History of Zionism' [Die Geschichte des Zionismus], ob
> das zionistische Beharren auf der Naturgegebenheit des Antisemitismus
> nicht doch das "Wasser auf die Mühlen der Nazi-Propaganda" war. [15]
>
> Sicher war es das.
>
> Laqueurs Frage kann jedoch am besten mit einer anderen Frage beantwortet
> werden: ist es schwierig, den leichtgläubigen Leser einer Nazi-Zeitung
> zu verstehen, der daraus schloß, daß das, was die Nazis erklärten und
> welchem die Zionisten - Juden - zustimmten, richtig sein müsse?
>
> Und es kam noch schlimmer: jede jüdische Bewegung, welche über die
> Naturgegebenheit des Antisemitismus schwätzte, geradeso, als wäre jener
> "natürlich", strebte nach vertraglichen Übereinkommen mit den Nazis, als
> diese an die Macht kamen.
>
> --------
>
> Fußnoten und Quellen:
>
> 1. Marvin Lowenthal (ed.), The Diaries of Theodor Herzl, p.78.
>
> 2. Amos Elon, Herzl, p.255.
>
> 3. Desmond Stewart, Theodor Herzl, p.322.
>
> 4. The WZO is structured by national states, and elections are held on a
> national basis for the World Zionist Congress; the various ideological
> tendencies which are world-wide in their structure, run in the various
> national elections for delegates.
>
> 5. Martin Buber, On Judaism, pp.15-19.
>
> 6. Ibid., pp.75-7.
>
> 7. Ignatz Zollschan, Jewish Questions (1914) pp.17-18.
>
> 8. Solomon Goldman, Crisis and Decision (1938), p.116.
>
> 9. Maurice Samuel, I, the Jew, pp.244-6.
>
> 10. Our Shomer "Weltanschauung", Hashomer Hatzair (December 1936), p.26.
>
> 11. Ben Frommer, The Significance of a Jewish State, Jewish Call
> (Shanghai, May 1935), p.10.
>
> 12. Yehezkel Kaufman, Hurban Hanefesh: A Discussion of Zionism and
> Anti-Semitism, Issues (Winter 1967), p.106.
>
> 13. Maurice Samuel, You Gentiles, p.155.
>
> 14. Chaim Greenberg, The Myth of Jewish Parasitism, Jewish Frontiers
> (March 1942), p.20.
>
> 15. Walter Laqueur, A History of Zionism, p.500.
>
> ************************************************************************
> http://www.marxists.de/middleast/brenner/ch02.htm
> 




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Aren't you stinking child molestor Englisman Grosvenor from Edmonton, 
Alberta, Canada?

How come you are walking free?

"ArthurFranks"  wrote in message 
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> And never forget the prominente ZYD KOLLABORACI, such as KASTNER,
> RUMKOWSKI, AND WIESENTHAL!!
>
>
> On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 17:25:22 +1000, "Benja'min"  
> wrote:
>
>>Fundamental Features of the Proposal of the National Military Organization
>>in Palestine (Irgun Zvai Leumi) Concerning
>>the Solution of the Jewish Question
>>in Europe and
>>the Participation of the NMO in the War
>>on the Side of Germany
>>(1941)
>
>>From Lenni Brenner: The Iron Wall, London 1984, pp.195-197.
>
>>Transcribed and marked up by Einde O'Callaghan for REDS - Die Roten.
>
>>It is often stated in the speeches and utterances of the leading statesmen
>>of National Socialist Germany that a prerequisite of the New Order in 
>>Europe
>>requires the radical solution of the Jewish question through evacuation
>>("Jew-free Europe").
>
>>The evacuation of the Jewish masses from Europe is a precondition for
>>solving the Jewish question; but this can only be made possible and 
>>complete
>>through the settlement of these masses in the home of the Jewish people,
>>Palestine, and through the establishment of a Jewish state in its historic
>>boundaries.
>
>>The solving in this manner of the Jewish problem, thus bringing with it 
>>once
>>and for all the liberation of the Jewish people, is the objective of the
>>political activity and the years-long struggle of the Israeli freedom
>>movement, the National Military Organization (Irgun Zvai Leumi) in
>>Palestine.
>
>>The NMO, which is well-acquainted with the goodwill of the German Reich
>>government and its authorities towards Zionist activity inside Germany and
>>towards Zionist emigration plans, is of the opinion that:
>
>>Common interests could exist between the establishment of a new order in
>>Europe in conformity with the German concept, and the true national
>>aspirations of the Jewish people as they are embodied by the NMO.
>>Cooperation between the new Germany and a renewed folkish-national 
>>Hebraium
>>would be possible and,
>>The establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and
>>totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would be in 
>>the
>>interest of a maintained and strengthened future German position of power 
>>in
>>the Near East.
>>Proceeding from these considerations, the NMO in Palestine, under the
>>condition the above-mentioned national aspirations of the Israeli freedom
>>movement are recognized on the side of the German Reich, offers to 
>>actively
>>lake part in the war on Germany's side.
>
>>This offer by the NMO, covering activity in the military, political and
>>information fields, in Palestine and, according to our determined
>>preparations, outside Palestine, would be connected to the military 
>>training
>>and organizing of Jewish manpower in Europe, under the leadership and
>>command of the NMO. These military units would take part in the fight to
>>conquer Palestine, should such a front be decided upon.
>
>>The indirect participation of the Israeli freedom movement in the New 
>>Order
>>in Europe, already in the preparatory stage, would be linked with a
>>positive-radical solution of the European Jewish problem in conformity 
>>with
>>the above-mentioned national aspirations of the Jewish people. This would
>>extraordinarily strengthen the moral basis of the New Order in the eyes of
>>all humanity.
>
>>The cooperation of the Israeli freedom movement would also be along the
>>lines of one of the last speeches of the German Reich Chancellor, in which
>>Herr Hitler emphasized that he would utilize every combination and 
>>coalition
>>in order to isolate and defeat England.
>
>>A brief general view of the formation, essence, and activity of the NMO in
>>Palestine:
>
>>The NMO developed partly out of the Jewish self-defense in Palestine and 
>>the
>>Revisionist movement (New Zionist Organization), with which the NMO was
>>loosely connected through the person of Mr. V. Jabotinsky until his death.
>
>>The pro-English attitude of the Revisionist Organization in Palestine, 
>>which
>>prevented the renewal of the personal union, led in the autumn of this 
>>year
>>to a complete break between it and the NMO as well as to a thereupon
>>following split in the Revisionist movement.
>
>>The goal of the NMO is the establishment of the Jewish state within its
>>historic borders.
>
>>The NMO, in contrast to all Zionist trends, rejects colonizatory
>>infiltration as the only means of making accessible and gradually taking
>>possession of the fatherland and practices its slogan, the struggle and 
>>the
>>sacrifice, as the only true means for the conquest and liberation of
>>Palestine.
>
>>On account of its militant character and its anti-English disposition the
>>NMO is forced, under constant persecutions by the English administration, 
>>to
>>exercise its political activity and the military training of its members 
>>in
>>Palestine in secret.
>
>>The NMO, whose terrorist activities began as early as the autumn of the 
>>year
>>1936, became, after the publication of the British White Papers, 
>>especially
>>prominent in the summer of 1939 through successful intensification of its
>>terroristic activity and sabotage of English properly. At that lime these
>>activities, as well as daily secret radio broadcasts, were noticed and
>>discussed by virtually the entire world press.
>
>>The NMO maintained independent political offices in Warsaw, Paris. London
>>and New York until the beginning of the war.
>
>>The office in Warsaw was mainly concerned with the military organization 
>>and
>>training of the national Zionist youth and was closely connected with the
>>Jewish masseswho, especially in Poland, sustained and enthusiastically
>>supported, in every manner, the fight of the NMO in Palestine. Two
>>newspapers were published in Warsaw (The Deed and Liberated Jerusalem):
>>these were organs of the NMO.
>
>>The office in Warsaw maintained close relations with the former Polish
>>government and those military circles, who brought greatest sympathy and
>>understanding towards the aims of the NMO. Thus, in the year 1939 selected
>>groups of NMO members were sent from Palestine to Poland, where their
>>military training was completed in barracks by Polish officers.
>
>>The negotiations, for the purpose of activating and concertizing their 
>>aid,
>>took place between the NMO and the Polish government in Warsaw - the
>>evidence of which can easily be found in the archives of the former Polish
>>government - were terminated because of the beginning of the war.
>
>>The NMO is closely related to the totalitarian movements of Europe in its
>>ideology and structure.
>
>>The fighting capacity of the NMO could never be paralyzed or seriously
>>weakened, neither through strong defensive measures by the English
>>administration and the Arabs, nor by those of the Jewish socialists.
> 




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vergiss niemal!

On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 18:37:04 +0200, in de.soc.politik.misc Werner Schneider
 wrote:

Westliche jüdische Kreise waren schon lange vor 1917 daran interessiert, das
Zarenreich zu beseitigen.
1917 ergab sich die Gelegenheit dazu, man musste nur die entsprechenden
Zahlungen auf den Weg bringen.

Dazu reiste Trotzki nach New York und nahm von Jakob Schiff, Hauptaktionär 
des jüdischen Bankhauses Kuhn Loeb & Co., 10 Millionen Dollar entgegen (heute
etwa 150 Mio Dollar), meist in kleinen Goldmünzen, die in Russland an
zaristische Soldaten verteilt wurden. Am 27.3.1917 ging Trotzki an Bord des
Schiffes "Christiana" und reiste nach Russland, wobei er noch
jüdisch-russische Revolutionäre mitnahm.

Eine zweite grosse Finanztranche erhielten die Bolschewiki über Max Warburg,
jüdisch-deutscher Bankier und Chef des deutschen Geheimdienstes
während des 1.Weltkrieges. Sein Bruder Paul war übrigens Chef der amerikan.
Federal Reserve Bank.
Gezahlt wurden durch den Warburg-Mittelsmann Parvus 6 Millionen Dollar in Gold
(heute etwa 100 Mio $), und zwar an Lenin, die dieser bei seiner Durchreise
1917 mitnahm.

Kuhn Loeb & Co. arbeitete auch nach der Revolution bestens mit den Bolschewiki
zusammen. Das Bankhaus beteiligte sich an der Finanzierung des ersten
Fünfjahrplanes. 600 Millionen Dollar in Gold gingen allerdings von Russland an
Kuhn Loeb.

Es ist schon bemerkenswert gewesen:
Jüdische Erzkapitalisten verhelfen den Verstaatlichern in Russland zum Sieg
und machen mit ihnen beste Geschäfte.

Ach so, jaja, die Quellen:

Sutton, Anthony C., Wallstreet and the Bolshevik
Revolution, Arlington House, 1974

Pearson, Michael, Der plombierte Wagen - Lenins Weg
aus dem Exil zur Macht, München 1973

Werner

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EARLY ZIONIST TERRORIST GANGS
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On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 04:31:22 -0500, in alt.revisionism
chester_field@fastmail.fm wrote:

EARLY ZIONIST TERRORIST GANGS

Soon after the end of World War II, there were three basic
para-military Zionist organizations in Palestine, working against the
Arab people, with the specific purpose of driving it out of Palestine.
These were the Haganah, the Irgun Zvai Leumi and the Stern Gang.

Before the British Mandate, the Jewish settlers had formed a group of
mounted armed watchmen called "Hashomar" and with the advent of the
British Mandate, it became the Haganah (Defense). With a membership of
60,000 Zionist Jews, the Haganah had a field army of 16,000 trained
men and a unit called the Palmach, which was a full-time force,
numbering about 6000.

The Irgun Zvai Leumi included between 3000 and 5000 armed terrorists,
and grew out of the Haganah and its Palmach branch in 1933. The Irgun
was not ready to obey the Jewish Agency which sought to dilute the
terror of the Haganah in order not to lose its respectability.

In 1939, one of Irgun's commanding officers, Abraham Stern, left the
parent organization and formed the Stern Gang, numbering some 200 to
300 dangerous fanatics.

SOME EARLY EXAMPLES OF JEWISH-ZIONIST TERROR.

August 20, 1937 - June 29, 1939. During this period, the Zionists
carried out a series of attacks against Arab buses, resulting in the
death of 24 persons and wounding 25 others.

November 25, 1940. S.S.Patria was blown up by Jewish terrorists in
Haifa harbour, killing 268 illegal Jewish immigrants (see below).

November 6, 1944. Zionist terrorists of the Stern Gang assassinated
the British Minister Resident in the Middle East, Lord Moyne, in
Cairo.

July 22, 1946. Zionist terrorists blew up the King David Hotel in
Jerusalem, which housed the central offices of the civilian
administration of the government of Palestine, killing or injuring
more than 200 persons. The Irgun officially claimed responsibility for
the incident, but subsequent evidence indicated that both the Haganah
and the Jewish Agency were involved.

October 1, 1946. The British Embassy in Rome was badly damaged by bomb
explosions, for which Irgun claimed responsibility.

June 1947. Letters sent to British Cabinet Ministers were found to
contain bombs.

September 3, 1947. A postal bomb addressed to the British War Office
exploded in the post office sorting room in London, injuring 2
persons. It was attributed to Irgun or Stern Gangs. (The Sunday Times,
Sept. 24, 1972, p.8)

December 11, 1947. Six Arabs were killed and 30 wounded when bombs
were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab buses in Haifa; 12 Arabs were
killed and others injured in an attack by armed Zionists on an Arab
coastal village near Haifa.

December 13,1947. Zionist terrorists, believed to be members of Irgun
Zvai Leumi, killed 18 Arabs and wounded nearly 60 in Jerusalem, Jaffa
and Lydda areas. In Jerusalem, bombs were thrown in an Arab
market-place near the Damascus Gate; in Jaffa, bombs were thrown into
an Arab cafe; in the Arab village of Al Abbasya, near Lydda, 12 Arabs
were killed in an attack with mortars and automatic weapons.

December 19, 1947. Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near
Safad, blowing up two houses, in the ruins of which were found the
bodies of 10 Arabs, including 5 children. Haganah admitted
responsibility for the attack.

December 29, 1947. Two British constables and 11 Arabs were killed and
32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun members
threw a bomb from a taxi.

December 30,1947. A mixed force of the Zionist Palmach and the "Carmel
Brigade" attacked the village of Balad al Sheikh, killing more than 60
Arabs.

1947 -- 1948. Over 700,000 Palestinian Arabs were uprooted from their
homes and land, and forced to live in refugee camps on Israel's
borders. They have been denied the right to return to their homes.
They have been refused compensation for their homes, orchards, farms
and other property stolen from them by the Israeli government. After
their expulsion, the "Israeli Forces" totally obliterated (usually by
bulldozing) 385 Arab villages and towns, out of a total of 475.
Commonly, Israeli villages were built on the remaining rubble.

January 1, 1948. Haganah terrorists attacked a village on the slopes
of Mount Carmel; 17 Arabs were killed and 33 wounded.

January 4, 1948. Haganah terrorists wearing British Army uniforms
penetrated into the center of Jaffa and blew up the Serai (the old
Turkish Government House) which was used as a headquarters of the Arab
National Committee, killing more than 40 persons and wounding 98
others.

January 5, 1948. The Arab-owned Semiramis Hotel in Jerusalem was blown
up, killing 20 persons, among them Viscount de Tapia, the Spanish
Consul. Haganah admitted responsibility for this crime.

January 7, 1948. Seventeen Arabs were killed by a bomb at the Jaffa
Gate in Jerusalem, 3 of them while trying to escape. Further
casualties, including the murder of a British officer near Hebron,
were reported from different parts of the country.

January 16, 1948. Zionists blew up three Arab buildings. In the first,
8 children between the ages of 18 months and 12 years, died.

December 13, 1947 -- February 10, 1948. Seven incidents of
bomb-tossing at innocent Arab civilians in cafes and markets, killing
138 and wounding 271 others, During this period, there were 9 attacks
on Arab buses. Zionists mined passenger trains on at least 4
occasions, killing 93 persons and wounding 161 others.

February 15, 1948. Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near
Safad, blew up several houses, killing 11 Arabs, including 4
children..

March 3, 1948. Heavy damage was done to the Arab-owned Salam building
in Haifa (a 7 story block of apartments and shops) by Zionists who
drove an army lorry ( truck) up to the building and escaped before the
detonation of 400 Ib. of explosives; casualties numbered 11 Arabs and
3 Armenians killed and 23 injured. The Stern Gang claimed
responsibility for the incident.

March 22, 1948. A housing block in Iraq Street in Haifa was blown up
killing 17 and injuring 100 others. Four members of the Stern Gang
drove two truck-loads of explosives into the street and abandoned the
vehicles before the explosion.

March 31, 1948. The Cairo-Haifa Express was mined, for the second time
in a month, by an electronically-detonated land mine near Benyamina,
killing 40 persons and wounding 60 others.

April 9, 1948. A combined force of Irgun Zvai Leumi and the Stern
Gang, supported by the Palmach forces, captured the Arab village of
Deir Yassin and killed more than 200 unarmed civilians, including
countless women and children. Older men and young women were captured
and paraded in chains in the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem; 20 of the
hostages were then shot in the quarry of Gevaat Shaul.

April 16, 1948. Zionists attacked the former British army camp at Tel
Litvinsky, killing 90 Arabs there.

April 19, 1948. Fourteen Arabs were killed in a house in Tiberias,
which was blown up by Zionist terrorists.

May 3, 1948. A book bomb addressed to a British Army officer, who had
been stationed in Palestine exploded, killing his brother, Rex Farran.

May11, 1948. A letter bomb addressed to Sir Evelyn Barker, former
Commanding Officer in Palestine, was detected in the nick of time by
his wife.

April 25, 1948 -- May 13, 1948. Wholesale looting of Jaffa was carried
out following armed attacks by Irgun and Haganah terrorists. They
stripped and carried away everything they could, destroying what they
could not take with them.

THE SS PATRIA.

November 25, 1940. In September, 1940, around 3,000 Jewish refugees
>from Vienna, Prague and Danzig were attempting to reach Palestine. In
a convoy of four river steamers, they set sail down the Danube and
reached the Romanian port of Tulcea where they transferred to three
Greek cargo ships named Atlantic, Pacific and Milos. Conditions on
board these three ships were horrendous, reminiscent of Japanese
hell-ships later in the war. Eventually the ships reached Palestinian
waters, but the British Colonial Office refused them permission to
land. It was finally decided to deport the refugees to the island of
Mauritius where a special camp was to be built. The three ships were
then brought into Haifa harbour where the liner Patria was berthed.
The refugees were then embarked on the Patria and as the last
passengers from the Atlantic were coming on board, a tremendous
explosion ripped the liner apart. The death toll amounted to 267
refugees killed. The explosion was the work of the Jewish underground
army, the Haganah, who had meant only to damage the ship to prevent it
sailing but had miscalculated the amount of explosives needed to
disable the ship. Many say that this was no miscalculation and was
deliberate murder of Jews by Jews, in an attempt to influence British
immigration policy to Palestine.
 
A LIGHT UNTO THE NATIONS.

The first act of air piracy in the history of civil aviation was
carried out by Israel, in Dec. 1954, when a civilian Syrian airliner
was forced down in Tel Aviv and its passengers and crew held for days,
despite international condemnation.

In 1968, Israeli commandos blew up 13 civilian airliners at Beirut
airport in Lebanon.

The first deliberate shooting down a civilian airliner was carried out
by Israel, when a Libyan airliner was shot down by Israeli jet
fighters over Sinai, in Feb. 1973, on the direct orders of Israeli
Prime Minister Golda Meir, killing all 107 of its passengers and the
entire French crew


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Vergiss niemals! Bewaehrt Euch vor Juden!

Der Jude ist ein Parasit! (Teil 3 der Parasiten-Serie)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 07:42:41 -0700
Message-ID: 

On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 15:56:39 +0100, in de.soc.politik.misc egon-karl ullrich
 wrote:

Nachdem meine Artikel vom 25. und 26.12.2006 FF über den jüdischen 
Parasiten so wunderbar erfolgreich eingeschlagen sind, seien hier noch 
einmal zu Erinnerung zwei der vergoldeten Zitate aus der zionistischen 
Original-Literatur wiederholt, welche das unter den Zionisten 
durchgehend verbreitete Judenverständnis bezeugen (so der Autor Lenni 
Brenner in Teil 2 der Parasiten-Serie), bevor wir uns weiter dieser Art 
Bestseller-Literatur und Denkweise zuwenden. Übrigens: "Teil 1", "Teil 
2" stand zu Beginn der Serie noch nicht im 'Subject', an eine 
Erfolgsserie in diesem Kino glaubte ich da noch nicht. Vielen Dank, 
verehrtes Publikum!! :-).

Die 2 Zitate:
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[...] ein Parasitentum, mag es auch
riesenhaft sein, ein Parasitentum, wie es in keinem Volke
seinesgleichen hat - denn bei anderen gehört schließ-
lich der Ausbeuter wie der Ausgebeutete dem gleichen
Volke an [...]

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http://groups.google.de/group/de.soc.politik.misc/msg/1179a72afe84ea7e?hl=de&
(Quelle: Aaron David Gordon, 'Erlösung durch Arbeit', Seite 47, 
Zionistischer Bücherbund, Berlin 1929. Gordon lebte von 1856 bis 1922)

sowie dazu passend:
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Wir [Juden] nehmen unter ihnen [den anderen Völkern]
keinen Rang ein als Volk, als besonderer nationaler Kör-
per; wir sind kein Glied in der Kette der Menschheit,
kein Organ ihres Leibes, sondern Parasiten am Körper
anderer Völker

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(Quelle: wie oben, Seite 144)

(An dieser Stelle sei nochmal die URL zum Komplett-Download des Buches 
'Erlösung durch Arbeit' wiederholt:
http://putstuff.putfile.com/29257/3484261
Ca. 17 MB, bitte die Anmerkungen im obigen verlinkten Artikel in 
Google-Groups beachten!)

Hier spricht der "Geist des Humanismus" zu uns, welcher nach Auffassung 
hochgestellter Politiker des Bundeslandes Wien bereits vor hundert 
Jahren durch Herzl auf Erden inkarniert ist, wie ich ebenfalls in Teil 1 
der Parasiten-Serie am 26.12.2006 bewies,

Zitat:
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Die Stadt drücke ihren Respekt vor dem Werk Theodor Herzls, ihren Stolz
auf ihn mit der Widmung eines zentralen Platzes in der Innenstadt aus,
sagte Kulturstadtrat Mailath-Pokorny. Herzl habe eine politische Vision,
getragen aus dem Geist des Humanismus gehabt, die Wirklichkeit geworden
sei. Der Platz solle zugleich für das friedliche Miteinander der
Menschen, für die gegenseitige Anerkennung der unterschiedlichen
Ethnien, Sprachen, Mentalitäten und Kulturen in Europa und in der Welt
stehen.
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http://www.wien.gv.at/vtx/vtx-rk-xlink?SEITE=020040702012
(Quelle: Webservice der Stadt Wien, Archivmeldung der
Rathauskorrespondenz vom 2.7.2004: Ein Platz für Theodor Herzl)

Zufolge dem "Wirklichkeit gewordenen Geist des Humanismus" aus Wien ist 
der Jude ein Parasit unter den Völkern ohnegleichen!

UNSER HEILIGER FÜHRER DANKT VIELMALS!!!!  :-) :-) :-)

Begeistert auch die Reaktion aus dem deutschen Marxismus über den von 
den NaZions (danke dir, Manfred Glahe!) geplanten Aufstieg der Juden 
mittels Einreise nach Palästina, das sei hier ebenfalls aus dem Teil 1 
der Parasitenserie wiederholt,

Zitat:
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[man]
arbeitete an einer umfassenden Berufsumschichtung, die im neuen Land
einen neuen Menschen zur Folge haben sollte. In den Vorstellungen von
Aaron David Gordon steigerte sich dies zur Erlösung durch Arbeit: die
Juden seien Parasiten, von der wahren Quelle des Lebens - der Arbeit -
entfremdet, durch eigene Arbeit werde der Jude aber zum Menschen und
könne seine »Händler«-Existenz mittels Selbsterziehung und
Selbstverwirklichung in der Arbeit beenden.

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http://www.wildcat-www.de/zirkular/62/z62aufhe.htm
(Quelle: Wildcat-Zirkular Nr. 62, Februar 2002, 'Hintergründe der
Intifada im 21. Jahrhundert'. Übersetzung aus dem Englischen, im
Nachwort des Übersetzers finden wir oben zitierten arglosen, aber
sachlich zutreffenden Kommentar)

+++++++++++++++++++++
Nun aber, wie versprochen, weitere Texte, wobei ich jetzt die 
marxistische Fachkunde verlasse und mich sozusagen deren Gegenpol 
zuwende, dem Standpunkt der authentisch jüdischen Theologie in Bezug zum 
selben Thema. Sehr interessant und vor allem überzeugend, wie sehr sich 
anti/nicht-religiöser Marxismus und Gottesglaube bei der 
Betrachtung/Analyse bestimmter Sachverhalte doch annähern können...

Beginnen wir mit einem Artikel, übernommen von der Webseite 
"jewsagainstzionism" (JudengegenZionismus). Der jüdische Autor 
beschäftigt sich mit den zionistischen Machenschaften. Der 
ultra-orthodoxe (=sehr strenggläubige) Autor aus dem traditionellen 
Judentum richtet seine Erklärung zuförderst an die abtrünnigen 
(=zionistisch/weltlich beeinflußten) Juden, welche er im Sinne des 
authentischen, frommen Judentums zurückzugewinnen sucht. Anmerkungen im 
Text in [eckigen Klammern] stammen von mir [eku],

Zitat:
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Zionismus and Anti-Semitismus

Wir flehen und ersuchen unsere jüdischen Brüder darum, zu erkennen, daß 
die Zionisten nicht die Retter der jüdischen Leute und die Garanten 
ihrer Sicherheit, sondern eher die Anstifter und Ursache der jüdischen 
Leiden im Heiligen Land und weltweit sind.

Der Einfall, daß Zionismus und der Staat "Israel" der Beschützer der 
Juden seien, ist wahrscheinlich der größte Schabernack [im Originaltext 
steht "Hoax"], der jemals gegen das jüdische Volk verübt wurde.

In der Tat, wo anders seit 1945 standen Juden in solch großer Gefahr, 
wie in dem Staat der Zionisten?!

Juden ist es durch ihre religiösen Gesetze auferlegt, loyal zu den 
Ländern zu stehen, in denen sie Bürger sind.

Immer seit der Zerstörung des Heiligen Tempels in Jerusalem und dem Exil 
des jüdischen Volkes über 2000 Jahre, waren wir verpflichtet, uns 
peinlich loyal zu den Ländern unseres Aufenthaltes zu verhalten.

Einer der großen biblischen Propheten, Jeremiah, proklamierte in Kapitel 
29 seines Buches Gottes Botschaft zu allen Verbannten; in Vers 7 lesen 
wir [lt. Luther-Übersetzung], "Suchet der Stadt Bestes, dahin ich euch 
habe lassen wegführen, und betet für sie zum HERRN; denn wenn's ihr wohl 
geht, so geht's auch euch wohl."

Dies ist unsere ganze Geschichte hindurch ein Eckstein jüdischer Moral 
gewesen, bis zum heutigen Tage.

Thora-treue Juden wünschen in Frieden und Harmonie mit ihren Nachbarn zu 
leben, in jedem Land der Gemeinschaft der Nationen, einschließlich im 
historischen Palästina.

Sie mißbilligen Handlungen und Taktiken der Gewalt, ausgeübt durch Jene, 
unter Mißbrauch des Namens Israel unserer Vorväter, welche die ewigen 
Werte der Thora, das ewige gottgewidmete Erbe des jüdischen Volkes, 
ersetzt haben durch das Ideal des chauvinistischen Nationalismus.

Es ist die immerwährende Absicht des Zionismus, vorsätzlich und überall, 
wo irgend möglich, Antisemitismus zu erregen und sogar noch häufiger, 
einen Nutzen aus jeglichem jüdischen Leiden zu ziehen um in der Tat 
seine Sache zu fördern. Hass gegen Juden und jüdisches Leiden ist der 
Treibstoff der zionistischen Bewegung, und von Anfang an wurde ganz 
bewußt und vorsätzlich Hass gegen Juden angestachelt um dann, in 
geheucheltem Entsetzen, dies zu gebrauchen, um die Existenz des 
zionistischen Staates zu rechtfertigen - dies ist, natürlich, 
Machiavellismus, zum höchsten Grade getrieben.

Das Gedeihen des Zionismus auf Hass und den Leiden der Juden, und dem 
Bestreben, davon zu profitieren, indem die Juden in beständiger Furcht 
gehalten werden, verursacht ihre Ignoranz gegenüber der wahren Natur des 
Zionismus und stattdessen den zionistischen Staat als ihre Erlösung zu 
betrachten.

ANTISEMITISMUS DURCH DEN POLITISCHEN ZIONISMUS

Obwohl Zionisten und Andere darüber streiten, ist es eine unabweisbare 
Tatsache, daß revolutionäre, säkulare und abtrünnige Elemente der 
jüdischen Gesellschaft Europas nach dem Ersten Weltkrieg einen großen 
Beitrag zur Feindschaft gegen Juden leisteten. Diese erregten ganz 
allgemein den Judenhass unter vielen Nicht-Juden.

Während Hitler 1924 als Häftling in der Festung Landsberg am Lech 
einsaß, schrieb er sein Buch 'Mein Kampf'. Als er im Jahr 1933 
Reichskanzler von Deutschland wurde, standen ihm Goebbels, Rosenberg und 
Streicher bei.

Von ihnen kamen die Erklärungen, "Die Juden Deutschlands verursachten 
die Niederlage Deutschlands im Krieg 1914-1918;"

"die Juden Deutschlands waren verantwortlich für die schrecklichen 
Bedingungen, die in Deutschland dem Krieg folgten";

"die Juden Deutschlands sind Fremde und sie wünschen, Fremde zu bleiben";

"sie haben keine Treue zum Land ihrer Geburt";

"sie sind keine Menschen";

"sie sind dreckige Hunde";

"sie haben kein Recht, sich in die Angelegenheiten Deutschlands 
einzumischen";

"es gibt zu viele Juden in Deutschland".

Soweit es den Zionismus betraf, versuchte der Begründer des Zionismus 
und Abtrünnige [=Herkunfts-Jude. Zur Definiton s.a. die berühmte 
judenfreundliche Rede des Dr. Martin Hohmann, CDU], Theodor Herzl, den 
Hass auf die Juden zu verstärken, um die Sache des politischen Zionismus 
zu unterstützen.

Hier einige seiner "Perlen":

"Es ist unerlässlich, daß die Leiden der Juden ... schlimmer werden ... 
dies wird die Verwirklichung unserer Pläne unterstützen ... Ich habe 
eine exzellente Idee ... Ich werde die Antisemiten dazu verleiten, den 
Wohlstand der Juden auszulöschen ... Die Antisemiten werden uns dabei 
unterstützen, weil sie die Verfolgung und Unterdrückung der Juden 
verstärken werden. Die Antisemiten werden unsere besten Freunde sein." 
(Aus seinem Tagebuch, Teil 1, ab Seite 16,)

[der Autor zitiert hier offenbar die engl. Ausgabe der Herzl-Tagebücher, 
diese liegt mir nicht vor, dafür die deutsche]

Weitere Worte aus dem anschaulichen Einfallsreichtum dieses Träumers von 
Seite 68, Teil 1 seines Tagebuchs:
[Angaben des Autors zu Band und Seite beziehen sich wohl ebenfalls auf 
die engl. Ausgabe der Tagebücher, darum hier meine Rückübersetzung aus 
dem Englischen]

"Daher wird der Antisemitismus, welcher eine tief verwurzelte Kraft im 
Unterbewußtsein der Massen ist, den Juden nicht schaden. Ich finde ihn 
sogar nützlich, um den Judencharackter zu stärken, Erziehung durch die 
Massen, welche zur Assimilation führen wird. Diese Erziehung kann nur 
mittels Leiden erfolgen und die Juden werden sich anpassen."

[hier nun d. Originaltext aus dem in Deutschland erschienenen Tagebuch, 
Leipzig 1922/23, Band 1, Seite 12:

"Der Antisemitismus, der in der großen Menge etwas Starkes und 
Unbewußtes ist, wird aber den Juden nicht schaden. Ich halte ihn für 
eine dem Judencharakter nützliche Bewegung. Er ist die Erziehung einer 
Gruppe durch die Massen und wird vielleicht zu ihrer Aufsaugung führen. 
Erzogen wird man nur durch Härten. Es wird die Darwinsche Mimikry 
eintreten. Die Juden werden sich anpassen."

http://www.literature.at/webinterface/library/ALO-BOOK_V01?objid=12794&zoom=3&ocr=&page=19&gobtn=Go%21
Originalscan der Buchseite. Die Tagebücher wurden 2 Jahrzehnte nach dem 
Tode Herzls 1904 von dessen überlebenden Vater editiert und 
herausgegeben. Im Vergleich der beiden Zitate stimmt also der engl. u. 
d. deut. Text sinngemäß weitgehend überein, allerdings nicht die 
Paginierung.
Nun weiter mit der Sicht vom Standpunkt des Theologen:]

Hassvolle Sichtweisen auf Juden als Untermenschen mußten 
Nazi-Theoretiker wie etwa Hitler, Goebbels, Rosenberg und Streicher 
nicht neu erfinden. Diese Ideologie wurde einfach angepaßt aus 
Erklärungen politischer Zionisten, wie man sie z.B. in den Schriften des 
Zionisten Yehezkel Kaufman im Jahr 1933 vorfand.

Im Jahr 1920 tauchten an der Universität Heidelberg judenfeindliche 
Erklärungen auf.

Diese Erklärungen argumentierten damit, daß die Juden Deutschlands den 
Aufruhr in der Folge des Krieges verursacht hatten; daß die Juden von 
Deutschland nichts gemeinsam mit den Deutschen haben und daß die 
Deutschen das Recht haben, die Juden Deutschlands aus den 
Angelegenheiten betreffend ihres Volkes herauszuhalten wurde nicht etwa 
von Adolf Hitler in 'Mein Kampf' geäußert, sondern von Nahum Goldman, 
der zum Präsidenten der Zionistischen Weltorganisation [WZO] und zum 
Führer des Zionistischen Weltkongress [WJC] aufstieg und der - 
unstrittig - der einflußreichste politische Zionist der Welt wurde, 
gleich an zweiter Stelle hinter dem Premierminister des Staates Israel.

Im Jahr 1921 wurde den Juden in Deutschland erklärt:

"Wir Juden sind Feinde ... ein fremdes Volk in eurer Mitte und wir ... 
wollen dies bleiben. Ein Jude kann niemals ein loyaler Deutscher sein; 
wer immer das fremde Land sein Vaterland nennt ist ein Verräter am 
jüdischen Volk".

Wer sprach diese hinterfotzigen Worte?

Es war Jacob Klatzkin, die Nummer Zwei der politischen zionistischen 
Ideologen in Deutschland, zu einer Zeit, als sich die Juden Deutschlands 
der vollen politischen und bürgerlichen Rechte erfreuten.

Er war es, welcher die Untergrabung der jüdischen Gemeinden verfocht, 
als dem einzigen sicheren Weg, einen eigenen Staat zu erwerben.

"Sie hatten keine Skrupel dahingehend, die existierenden jüdischen 
Gemeinden zu zerstören."

Wer erklärte in einer öffentlichen Ansprache auf einem Treffen der 
politischen Zionisten in Berlin, daß "Deutschland ... zu viele Juden 
hat"? War es Hitler oder Goebbels?

Nein, das war Chaim Weizman, welcher später der erste Präsident des 
Staates Israel wurde.

Diese Ansprache wurde im Jahr 1920 veröffentlicht, und dies sogar vier 
Jahre, bevor Hitler sein Buch 'Mein Kampf' schrieb.

Wie viele zionistische Juden wissen von dem teuflischen Verrat, geäußert 
von den rangältesten zionistischen Führern, diesen Abtrünnigen des 
jüdischen Volkes?

Im Nürnberger Prozeß gegen die Hauptkriegsverbrecher, bezeugte 
Nazi-Propagandist Julius Streicher: "Ich tat nicht mehr, als zu 
wiederholen, was die führenden Zionisten erklärt hatten" - es ist klar, 
Streicher sagte die Wahrheit.

Neben Hitler, Rosenberg, Goebbels und Streicher, gebrauchten viele 
weitere Nazi-Führer Erklärungen von Zionisten, um ihre Anklagen gegen 
die Juden Deutschlands zu bestätigen.

Darin bestehen die Anstrengungen der zionistischen Führer bis zum 
heutigen Tag, einen hohen Grad des Antisemitismus aufrecht zu erhalten 
um ihnen mittels geheucheltem Abscheu zu ermöglichen, von dem so 
angespitzten Antisemitismus Unterstützung ihrer idolatrischen und 
anti-jüdischen Sache zu erhalten.

Im Jahre 1963 erklärte Moshe Sharett, damals Präsident der Jewish 
Agency, vor der 38. Jahrestagung der Skandinavischen Jugendorganisation, 
daß die Freiheit, welcher sich die Mehrheit der Juden erfreut, den 
Zionismus gefährdet und auf dem 26. Zionistischen Weltkongress wurde den 
Delegierten erzählt, daß die Juden vom Nachlassen des Antisemitismus in 
den USA bedroht seien, "Wir sind in Gefahr durch die Freiheit", erklärte er.

Wie schon weiter oben erwähnt, floriert der Zionismus durch den 
Antisemitismus.

Ben Gurion erlärte, "... nicht immer und nicht überall stelle ich mich 
gegen den Antisemitismus".

Die Zionisten spielen regelmäßig die handliche "Antisemiten"-Rassenkarte 
aus, gegen jederman, sei er Jude oder Nicht-Jude, welcher seine Stimme 
gegen die Boshaftigkeit der Zionisten erhebt.

Während des 2. Weltkrieges [1941, über türk. u. liban. diplom. Kanäle] 
suchte die Lehi-Organisation, Ableger von Begins 'Irgun' unter Führung 
von Yitzchak Shamir, ein Bündnis mit den Nazis einzugehen! Folgend ein 
Zitat aus dem Brief der Lehi im Kontakt mit den Nazis:

"Die Errichtung des historischen Judenstaates auf nationaler und 
totalitaerer Grundlage, der in einem Vertragsverhaeltnis mit dem 
Deutschen Reiche stuende, im Interesse der Wahrung und Staerkung der 
zukuenftigen deutschen Machtpositionen im Nahen Orient sei...
... tritt die N.M.O. in Palaestinam ... mit denn Angebote einer 
[b]aktiven Teilnahme am Kriege an der Seite Deutschlands[/b] heran...
... Die Kooperation der Israelitischen Freiheitsbewegung wuerde auch in 
der Linie einer der letzten Reden des deutschen Reichskanzler liegen, in 
der Herr Hitler betonte, dass er jede Kombination und Koalition benutzen 
werde um England zu isolieren und zu schlagen."

[folgender Link hinzugefügt, im engl. Original dieses Textes hier nicht 
vorhanden.

http://www.marxists.de/middleast/ironwall/irgunazi.htm

"Aus David Yisraeli, The Palestine Problem in German Politics, 
1889-1945, (Phd.), Bar Ilan University, Ramat Gan, Israel, 1974. Die 
Rechtschreibung wurde nicht geändert."
Das militärisch-politische Bündnisangebot der 'LEHI' an das 3. Reich 
liegt unter dem obigen Link im deutschen Volltext vor, von dort ist auch 
die engl. Version verlinkt. Weiter mit dem jüd. Theologen:]

Für jene, welche den Zionisten unterstellen, sie würden auf der Seite 
von Freiheit und Gleichheit stehen, klingen diese Worte befremdlich. 
Jenen jedoch, welche die Wurzel des Zionismus verstanden haben, welche 
die Transformation und Ausrottung der Auffassung vom traditionellen 
Juden und Judentum umfaßt, sind diese Erklärungen überhaupt nicht 
absonderlich. Sie [die zion. Worte] sind so zu erwarten.

Die Zionisten stimmten mit den Nazis im Allgemeinen überein, sogar schon 
vor dem Aufschwung des Nazismus. Sie glaubten, daß Juden nicht in 
Harmonie in irgendeiner anderen Gesellschaft in der Welt leben könnten 
und nicht sollten und daß die Trennung von diesen Gesellschaften ein 
Vorteil für diese Gesellschaften sei.

Sie glaubten, daß die neue jüdische Existenz in ihrem eigenen Staat das 
Bild vom Juden als "nutzlos" und "Parasit" umkrempeln würde. Diese Ideen 
existierten lange vor Adolf Hitler!

Es gibt eine große Anzahl Literatur darüber, die beschreibt, wie die 
Zionisten es sehr erschwerten, während und nach dem 2. Weltkrieg Juden 
zu retten. Während verschiedene Personen und Organisationen versuchten, 
die Ausreise von Juden in die westlichen Ländern zu arrangieren, 
investierten die Zionisten in Überstunden, um eben dies zu verhindern.

In der Tat, Yitzchak Greenbaum, ein berühmter Zionist, proklamierte, daß 
"eine Kuh in Palästina mehr Wert sei, als all die Juden in Polen."

Der schändliche David Ben-Gurion erklärte im Dezember 1938:

"Wenn ich wüßte, es wäre möglich all die [jüdischen] Kinder in 
Deutschland nach England zu retten, jedoch nur die Hälfte der Kinder, 
indem sie nach Eretz Israel gebracht würden, ich würde die zweite Lösung 
wählen. Wir dürfen nicht nur das Leben dieser Kinder berücksichtigen, 
sondern auch die Geschichte des Volkes Israel."

Nach dem Krieg, am 2. Mai 1948, präsentierte der zionistische 
"religiöse" Führer, Rabbi Klaussner, welcher mit der Sache der 
'Displaced Persons' befaßt war, einen Bericht vor der Jewish American 
Conference:

"Ich bin überzeugt davon, daß die Leute gezwungen werden müssen, nach 
Palästina zu gehen... Für die scheint ein amerikanischer Dollar das 
höchste aller Ziele zu sein. Mit dem Wort 'Zwang' schlage ich ein 
Programm vor. Dies dient der Evakuierung der Juden in Polen und diente 
in der Geschichte dem 'Exodus' [Auszug der antiken Juden aus Ägypten] 
... Zur Ausführung dieses Programms müssen wir, statt den 'Displaced 
Persons' Behaglichkeit zu bringen, ihnen die größtmöglichen 
Unannehmlichkeiten bereiten ... in einer zweiten Stufe folgt dann die 
Methode, die Haganah aufzufordern, die Juden zu drangsalieren."

Es ist eine Ironie, daß die Zionisten ihren Staat als den sicheren Hafen 
der Juden proklamieren, wenn doch seit dem 2. Weltkrieg kein Platz auf 
der Erde derart gefährlich für Juden ist, wie der zionistische Staat, in 
spiritueller Hinsicht wie physisch.

Nachdem der zionistische Staat gegründet war, wirkten die Zionisten 
unbarmherzig dahin, um Furcht bei den Juden in den arabischen Ländern zu 
erzeugen. Ihre Taktik funktionierte höchst erfolgreich im Yemen, 
Marokko, Irak, Algerien, Lybien, Tunesien.

Es ist unter irakischen Juden allgemein bekannt, daß während 1949 und 
1950 der berühmte Zionist Mordechai ben Porat, welcher den Spitznamen 
Morad Abu al-Knabel (Mordechai der Bomber) bekam, nach der zionistischen 
Staatsgründung dabei half, irakische Offizielle zu bestechen, damit sie 
Gesetze verabschiedeten, welche die Auswanderung der Juden aus dem Irak 
förderten.

Dies wurde dadurch verstärkt, indem die Zionisten im März 1950 Bomben in 
Baghdads Synagogen pflanzten. Informationen darüber liegen griffbereit 
im Internet.

Die Schrift von Herrn Naim Giladi dokumentiert im Detail, was die 
Zionisten im Jahr 1950 in Baghdad anrichteten um die Flucht der Juden in 
den zionistischen Staat zu provozieren.

[die aus dem Engl. auszugsweise übersetzte Schrift des irakischen Juden 
Naeim Giladi 'Ben Gurion Scandals' liegt bereits im Internet vor, 
gelegentlich setze ich sie auch in diese NG reinsetzen...]

Die Zionisten machen sich keine Sorgen um die Effekte, welche ihre 
Taktiken auf die jüdischen Gemeinden überall in den Ländern haben. Wenn 
sie die europäischen Nationen jeder Sünde unter der Sonne anklagen, 
kümmerts die Zionisten, daß dies Feindschaft gegenüber den Juden 
produzieren wird? Nein! Nicht im geringsten. Ganz im Gegenteil, wie oben 
behandelt, ihr Geschäft blüht unter solchen Umständen, sie klammern sich 
an die vergebliche Hoffnug, daß diese jüdischen Gemeinden zur "Erlösung" 
in den "sicheren Hafen" des zionistischen Paradieses hineindrängeln, wo 
sich die Juden in permanenter Gefahr befinden, da das zionistische 
Regime jede Form der grausamen Provokation gegen Nicht-Juden unternimmt.

In der Vergangenheit haben die Zionisten jede Gelegenheit gesucht, die 
Juden zum Verlassen ihrer Heimatländer zu drängen. Jedesmal, wenn auch 
nur der geringste judenfeindliche Vorfall auf den Fersen der 
zionistischen Taktik folgt, oder wenn Anzeichen ökonomischer Not und 
Verwerfung auftauchen, verstärken die Zionisten dies ums Tausendfache, 
suchen sie rücksichtslos die betroffenen Nationen zu erniedrigen und 
hetzen die Juden auf, zu dem zionistischen Staat zu gehen, der 
sogenannten "natürlichen Heimat" des jüdischen Volkes.

Dies war so der Fall in Ländern wie Frankreich, Argentinien, Uruguay, 
der früheren Sowjet-Union und Ägypten.

"Die Verheißungen der Thora werden sich immer verwirklichen." Dieser 
Vers aus der Thora legt dar, daß jene, welche Seine Feinde sind, einen 
Preis zahlen werden, wenn das Königreich Gottes herrschen wird.

Deuteronomium 32:43 [Fünftes Buch Mose 32,43, nach der 
Eberfelder-Übersetzung]: Jubelt, ihr Nationen, mit seinem Volke! Denn er 
wird rächen das Blut seiner Knechte und wird Rache erstatten seinen 
Feinden, und seinem Lande, seinem Volke, vergeben.

Fußnoten und Quellen:

     * Guardian Volume two Issue 7
     * Satmar Grand Rebbe Joel Teitelbaum
     * The Jews of Batna, Aleria:  A Study of Identity and Colonialism 
by Elizabeth Friedman.
     * The Jewish Communities of Morocco and the AIU by M. Laskier, 
State University, Albany, N.Y.
     * The Impact of Western European Education on the Jewish Millet of 
Baghdad by Maurice Sawdayee.
     * Outcaste Jewish Life in Southern Iran by Laurence D. Loeb. 
Gordon and Breach.
     * The Last Arab Jews.  The Communities of Jerba, Tunisia by Abraham 
Udovitch and Lucette Valensi.  Harwood Academic Publishers.
     * The GENOCIDE IN THE HOLY LAND (available for purchase on the site)
     * Ben Gurion's Scandals by Naeim Giladi (available for purchase on 
the site)
*********************************************************************
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/zionism/zanda.cfm
(Quelle: eine Webseite des traditionellen, ultra-ortodoxen Judentums)

Die Juden lügen nicht!
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Der neue alte Antisemitismus was: Re: ZioNazis, ab in den sozialen Ver
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 10:55:13 -0700
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On 10 Nov 2006 00:00:00 +0000, in de.soc.politik.misc
m.blumentritt@cl-hh.comlink.de (Martin Blumentritt) wrote:

Der "neue Antisemitismus" - Altes Gift mit neuem Etikett Rede von Dr.
Dieter Graumann - Frankfurt/Main Rede von Dr. Dieter Graumann,
Präsidiumsmitglied des Zentralrats der Juden in Deutschland und
Kulturdezernent der Jüdischen Gemeinde Frankfurt, anlässlich der
offiziellen Gedenkveranstaltung für die Pogromnacht vom 9. November
1938 in der Paulskirche in Frankfurt/Main am 9. November 2004

In Europa blüht die alte Seuche neu auf

Der 9. November 1938 gilt zu Recht gemeinhin als eine Explosion von
Sadismus, von Vandalismus, von Mordlust, von Zerstörungswut. Es war
der keineswegs spontane, vielmehr sorgfältig gelenkte, inszenierte,
orchestrierte Ausbruch von brutaler Judenfeindschaft.

Wie ist das heute? Die Pest von Antisemitismus ist nicht tot, sondern
höchst lebendig. In den letzten Monaten hat es zu diesem Thema, da es
leider so aktuell ist, große internationale Konferenzen und
Erklärungen gegeben.

Oft wird heute dabei vom "neuen Antisemitismus" gesprochen. Ist er
wirklich neu? Was ist dabei neu? Oder: Handelt es sich am Ende doch
nur um das alte Gift mit neuem Etikett? Und: Wie geht das moderne,
aufgeklärte Europa mit dieser Seuche um?

Antisemitismus vergeht nicht. Aber auch der Antisemitismus geht
inzwischen mit der Zeit. Auch er geht sozusagen mit der Mode, macht
sich fein und chic, um attraktiv und akzeptabel und legitim zu
erscheinen.

Natürlich gibt es noch den "alten" - soll man etwa sagen: den "guten
alten" ? - Antisemitismus: jener, der die Juden als rassisch
minderwertig qualifiziert, sie aussondern oder gar eliminieren will.
Das alles gibt es noch heute - aber in dieser Schlichtheit doch eher
selten.

Der Antisemitismus von heute stellt sich oft anders dar als früher,
chiffriert, codiert - aber nicht weniger gehässig und verwerflich.
Heutzutage will kaum jemand mehr sich direkt als Antisemit outen.
Denn allzu sehr ist doch der offen ausgesprochene Judenhass mit dem
millionenfachen Morden, mit den monumentalen Mordfabriken verknüpft
und gilt daher politisch als nicht - oder als noch nicht wieder -
korrekt.

Was also ist zu tun? Wie soll sich denn der arme Antisemit von heute
eigentlich artikulieren? Fast könnte er einem ja leid tun: Auschwitz
leugnen soll er nicht. Auschwitz loben darf er nicht. Juden
akzeptieren kann er nicht. Eine verzwickte Lage.

Wie gut, dass es da Israel gibt! Gäbe es Israel nicht, die
Antisemiten von heute müssten es direkt erfinden!

Denn Israel liefert doch die perfekte Möglichkeit, uralte
antisemitische Instinkte unter der modischen, bunten Flagge von
Antizionismus politisch korrekt auszuleben.

Dass das überhaupt möglich ist, müsste die Antisemiten von heute
perverserweise eigentlich zu begeisterten Zionisten machen. Aber das
wäre wahrscheinlich denn doch zu viel verlangt.

Wohlgemerkt: Ganz sicher ist keineswegs jede Israelkritik
antisemitisch. Und Kritik an israelischer Politik ist natürlich
legitim. Nirgends ist diese Kritik auch leidenschaftlicher als in
Israel selbst - ganz unabhängig übrigens davon, welche Politik dort
gerade verfolgt wird. Aber Israel ist nicht nur die einzige
Demokratie der Region, sondern verfügt außerdem über eine besonders
intensive und lebendige Streitkultur.

Aber hier geht es doch um etwas ganz anderes: Denn oft, und öfter als
man denkt, dient die radikale, von Hass getragene Kritik an Israel
nur als Vehikel, um am Ende doch wieder nur den allzu vertrauten
Judenhass zu transportieren.

Neu ist das nicht: Spätestens seit Stalin und seinen Schauprozessen
ist Antizionismus zu einem Codewort für Antisemitismus geworden.

Und auch heute gibt es sehr wohl den Ersatzantisemitismus, der Israel
sagt und Juden meint. Kritik an Israel als Alibi, als Vorwand, als
Deckmantel für ausgelebte Judenfeindschaft

- das ist in Europa heute nur allzu oft rüde Realität.

In Deutschland hat das Ganze natürlich noch einen ganz besonderen
Akzent, einen ganz speziellen Geschmack. Es ist eine
"Entschuldungs-Debatte", die geführt wird, getragen vom Wunsch, die
Schuld der Väter und Großväter zu verkleinern, indem die Kinder und
Enkel der Opfer von damals zu den Tätern von heute werden. Daraus
spricht die Fantasie - oder die Wunschvorstellung - dass Israelis und
Juden irgendwie doch auch wie die Nazis sein mögen. Es ist der
schamlose Versuch einer schuldentlastenden Projektion. Die
kontroverse Diskussion in Deutschland über das Thema Israel
verursacht auch keineswegs neuen Antisemitismus. Nein: hier wird nur
jener Antisemitismus offenbart, der schon immer vorhanden war. Oder
anders: Wer wegen Israel zum Antisemiten wird, der war schon längst
einer.

Aber natürlich ist das alles keineswegs auf Deutschland beschränkt.
In Frankreich, teilweise aber auch in Belgien, etwa hat der
Antisemitismus geradezu rasante Wachstumsraten aufzuweisen, ist
sozusagen die "Wachstumsbranche" schlechthin. Dort findet die
islamische Hasskampagne gegen Israel und gegen alle Juden offenbar
eine besonders große Resonanz.

Denn vom Islamismus - und alles Leugnen oder Verdrängen hilft hier
doch nicht weiter - bekommt der Antisemitismus von heute frische
Kraft und neues Feuer.

Die Neigung in Europa, islamistische Fehlentwicklungen,  einfach zu
ignorieren - oder soll man sagen: nicht einmal zu ignorieren? - ist
dabei besonders fatal und schändlich. Wie reagiert man denn in Europa
auf schlimmste Diktatur, brutale Folter, auf systematische, schier
unfassbare Unterdrückung von Frauen, von Kindern, von Andersdenkenden
ganz zu schweigen, in islamistisch regierten Ländern? Wohlwollendes
Schweigen, akute Beißhemmung, bemühtes Wegschauen. Feigheit und
Ängstlichkeit, ja auch Doppelmoral und Heuchelei - Appeasement pur.

Und wenn es dann auch noch um Länder geht, die über wirtschaftliche
Macht verfügen, sogar Erdöl exportieren - dann gibt es überhaupt
keine moralischen Bremsen mehr. In den allerletzten Wochen erst: Da
wird ein rundherum blutrünstiges, bösartiges Regime mit einem
Freundschaftsspiel der Fußball-Nationalmannschaft aufgewertet, und
ein berüchtigter, besonders brutaler Diktator, der vermutlich
wahnsinnig, sicher aber verantwortlich ist für Tausende von Mordtaten
weltweit, wird sogar durch einen großartigen Kanzlerbesuch beehrt.
Wir alle wissen doch: Würden diese Länder Bananen statt Erdöl
exportieren - kein Mensch würde sie derart unterwürfig hofieren. Aber
so? Öl statt Moral. Jene, wie etwa die Grünen, die so gerne von der
Moral in der Politik sprechen, habe ich zu diesem Thema jedenfalls
nicht gehört.

In Frankreich sind inzwischen mehrere Hundert Male Synagogen,
jüdische Schulen und Friedhöfe angegriffen worden. Antizionismus?
Aber was, bitteschön, haben Angriffe auf jüdische Bethäuser, jüdische
Friedhöfe und auf jüdische Kinder in Schulen in Frankreich denn
eigentlich mit dem Nah-Ost- Konflikt zu tun? Juden werden
angegriffen, weil sie Juden sind. Das ist Antisemitismus pur. Was
denn sonst? Und: Wird denn Antisemitismus etwa dadurch besser, oder
weniger schlimm, wenn die Täter selbst oft Außenseiter sind?

Der Antisemitismus in Europa insgesamt ist jedenfalls definitiv
stärker geworden, lauter, gefährlicher. Die "Europäische
Beobachtungsstelle für Rassismus und Fremdenfeindlichkeit" hat in
ihrer Studie vom April 2004 gerade das festgestellt. Dort ist zu
lesen, dass selbst in einigen Ländern, in denen es kaum
antisemitische Vorfälle gibt, der Antisemitismus dennoch in der
Bevölkerung oft besonders verbreitet und nachgerade populär ist. Das
gilt etwa für Österreich, was uns allen in dieser Hinsicht wohl
vertraut und ganz zu Recht übel beleumundet ist. Das gilt zum Teil
aber auch für ein Land wie Griechenland, wo die dortige orthodoxe
Kirche eine in dieser Hinsicht nicht immer hilfreiche Rolle spielt.
Das trifft aber auch für andere Länder zu.

Antisemitismus ist jedenfalls in Europa eindeutig aggressiver,
dreister, greller geworden, das ist nicht nur die Wahrnehmung
traumatisierter Juden (wobei gilt: selbst wer unter Verfolgungswahn
leiden sollte, kann durchaus wirklich verfolgt werden!).

Und die entscheidende Rolle spielt heutzutage der Islamismus, der
einen unversöhnlichen, ja tödlichen Hass auf Israel und auf alle
Juden predigt.

Aber schaut man sich einmal genauer die grauenhaften Hetztiraden in
arabischen Zeitungen an, die wahrhaft schauerlichen Fernsehsendungen,
die Hassgeschichten in palästinensischen Schulbüchern - teilweise und
zeitweise sogar mitfinanziert durch die EU, ein kolossaler Skandal
für sich! - die antisemitischen Karikaturen, praktischerweise direkt
dem "Stürmer" entnommen, so stellt man schnell fest: Nichts Neues
unter der Sonne.

Da ist der klassische Antisemitismus europäischer Provenienz wieder
auferstanden: die gleichen Wendungen bis in die Details hinein.

Und neu an diesem Antisemitismus ist nun lediglich, dass er heute so
stark über die islamistische Schiene transportiert wird: global,
total, machtvoll, voll marktschreierischem Hass.

Freilich: Das alles ist nichts anderes als der Re-Import des in
Europa erfundenen alten Antisemitismus mit den immer gleichen
Klischees:

Ritualmord, Jüdische Weltverschwörung, sogar die längst  vergilbten
"Protokolle der Weisen von Zion" (ein ausgesprochen dummes Machwerk
des zaristischen Geheimdienstes, vor genau hundert Jahren fabriziert)
werden wieder ausgegraben, werden reanimiert und exhumiert. Es sind
die immer gleichen Mechanismen: Denunzierung, Dämonisierung,
Stereotypisierung.

Antisemitismus hatte seine Quelle und mörderischen Wurzeln aber immer
in Europa. Doch inzwischen ist er zu einer weltweiten Krankheit
geworden - die Globalisierung umfasst mittlerweile auch den
schlimmsten Judenhass.

Freilich sollte nun niemand etwa denken, hier seien vom Islamismus
lediglich Israel und die Juden gemeint (beide werden hier
bezeichnenderweise immer als Synonym verwendet), und andere kämen so
einfach davon. Nein: Jeder modern lebenden Mensch, und insbesondere
jede selbstbestimmt lebende Frau, sind Ziel dieses feurigen Hasses.
Und der "Jude" ist lediglich Symbol für alles Moderne, ja ein
Codewort für ein modernes Leben in Freiheit. Für den Islamismus ist
Israel und sind die Juden nur populistische Feindbilder, mit denen
generell und universell jede Modernität, mit denen Liberalismus,
Freiheit, Gleichberechtigung bekämpft werden. Denn: Hier geht es um
einen Generalangriff aus der Finsternis des geistigen Mittelalters
auf die gerade in Europa so hoch gehaltenen Werte, auf Toleranz und
Aufklärung schlechthin.

Und doch scheint nun gerade in Europa das Gift islamistischer
Propaganda mehr und mehr aufzugehen.

Und wenn nun osteuropäische Länder, in denen auch die zigtausendfache
Komplizenschaft mit den Judenmorden nie richtig verarbeitet, oft
nicht einmal eingestanden wird, zur EU stoßen, so birgt das - so
schön und wünschenswert das alles ohne Zweifel ist - auch neue
Gefahren. Denn der Antisemitismus lebt in Osteuropa teilweise
ungeniert und ungebrochen weiter: Das gilt für Polen, das uns
inzwischen immer wieder zeigt, dass man zum Antisemitismus gar keine
Juden mehr braucht und wo die katholische Kirche schon immer und noch
immer in dieser Hinsicht allzu oft eine verwerfliche und
niederträchtige Rolle spielte und spielt, das gilt teilweise aber
auch für Ungarn, für Rümänien, für die Slowakei und für die
baltischen Länder auch.

In Europa sollte man die Sorgen der jüdischen Bürger besser ernst
nehmen. Denn Antisemitismus war in der Geschichte immer schon ein
Gradmesser, ein Indikator dafür, wie es um Toleranz und Freiheit in
der ganzen Gesellschaft bestellt ist.

Elie Wiesel hat dazu einmal gesagt: "Wir Juden haben dafür keine
Antennen. Wir sind die Antennen."

Antisemitismus ist eine Seuche, eine Pest, eine Krankheit der
Menschheit. Europa muss das Richtige tun und das Falsche unterlassen.
Nicht wegsehen. Nicht beschwichtigen.

Nicht verniedlichen. Nicht verharmlosen. Sondern: Offensiv und
entschlossen dagegen halten.

Das geschieht nun leider nicht immer. Dafür gibt es er viele
Beispiele. Aber: Warum in die Ferne schweifen - wenn ein schlechtes
Beispiel doch so nahe liegt. Vor genau einem Monat: Frankfurter
Buchmesse. Nun ist eine stärkere Kommunikation mit der arabischen
Welt ohne Zweifel nur zu begrüßen. Kommunikation ist allemal besser
als Konfrontation. Aber die Wahrheit ist doch auch: Ja, bei dieser
Messe wurde auch ganz offensichtlich antisemitische Literatur
ausgestellt. Die Messeleitung, darauf mehrfach angesprochen, stellte
sich taub und behauptete einfach, das sei nicht ganz klar. Nun: Da
wurde ein Buch, um nur ein Beispiel zu nennen, mit dem schönen Titel:
"The Sin of the Jews" angeboten. Zu lesen war in Büchern zum
Beispiel, "die jüdische Religion fordert die Vernichtung aller
Völker" und die Juden seien "sowohl die Mörder des Propheten wie auch
der größte Feind der Menschheit". Die Krönung fand freilich schon
gleich zu Beginn statt: Denn zur Eröffnung sprach der Bundeskanzler
und auch Mohammed Salmavy, ein weltweit bekannter, übler Antisemit
und ein notorischer Holocaust-Leugner. Darauf wurde mehrfach
hingewiesen. Die Veranstalter kümmerte das nicht. Bis heute nicht.
Dabei verdanken wir doch Mohammed Salmawy immerhin so wichtige
Einsichten wie etwa die  Behauptung, die Deutschen hätten die Juden
seinerzeit deportieren müssen, weil sie schließlich eine lästige
Bürde waren, die Öfen in Auschwitz - und damit wir uns alle richtig
verstehen: die Verbrennungsöfen für vorher vergaste Menschen! - hat
er tatsächlich vermessen und als zu klein befunden und den
weltberühmten Holocaust-Leugner David Irving immer aktiv unterstützt.
Vor nicht langer Zeit erst hat er einen Artikel veröffentlich mit dem
feinen Titel: "Cherchez les juifs." Ein solcher Mann eröffnet die
Frankfurter Buchmesse! Man fasst es nicht. Und alle, alle schweigen.
Natürlich: Die Veranstalter der Buchmesse sind mit Sicherheit über
jeden Verdacht des Antisemitismus erhaben. Aber sie haben ihn
schließlich doch auch ein Stück hingenommen, zugelassen, um des
lieben Friedens willen, wie sie ihn verstehen, aus Rücksicht, aus
Vorsicht. Ein schlechtes Beispiel für moralischen Anspruch, ein gutes
Beispiel für moralische Verirrung. Denn: Hinter dieser Haltung steht
anschaulich all das, was ich zuvor als so bedenklich beschrieben
habe: Wegschauen, Wegschauen-Wollen, Verharmlosen, aber auch: Angst,
Feigheit, Doppelmoral, Appeasement pur.

Wer den kleinen Antisemitismus toleriert, verharmlosend in Kauf
nimmt, wird den großen Antisemitismus mit Sicherheit niemals
aufhalten.

Nein: Hier darf es einfach keine Kompromisse geben. Wer hier mit
Kompromissen auch nur beginnt, hat die Schlacht schon verloren.

Antisemitismus muss klar benannt und geächtet werden.

Und Antisemiten, so wichtig sie auch scheinen, gebührt generell keine
prominente Plattform, auch keine großartige Beachtung - sondern nur
Verachtung.

Ich weiß: Solche Sätze sind oft leichter gesagt als umgesetzt.

Aber hier geht es am Ende doch um eine ganz grundsätzliche
Einstellung, die nichtnur gedacht und gefordert werden soll, sondern
immer wieder gelebt werden muss - allen Versuchungen und allen
Widerständen zum Trotz.

mfg Martin Blumentritt http://www.martinblumentritt.de/

"Die Antisemiten vergeben es den Juden nicht, daß die Juden  Geist 
haben - und Geld. Die Antisemiten - ein Name der  Schlechtweggekommenen."
(F.Nietzsche)


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Subject: ZYDS=NAZI KOLABORATEURS - KASTNER, RUMKOWSKI, WIESENTHAL + 51 More!!
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Vergiss niemals! Never forget or forgive the ZYDS/communists!
No wonder people have hated the Christkillers for 2000 years.

This article is so important, it needs to be reposted and passed on,
so that more and more people around the world will come to know 
the truth about the willing ZYD COLLABORATION with nazis.

Even about the HOLOHOAX, based on zyd lies!!

Now even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL has been proven to 
be a Nazi GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!

As were Rumkowski, and never forget the infamous KASTNER!!
And at least another 50 well documented ZYD KOLLABORATEURS
and zydowskiego gestapo!!

From: Alexander Sharon 
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 17:37:51
Subject: zydowskie gestapo
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,pl.soc.polityka
Message-Id: <20070430232379.34F7SNTN8W@pd7urf2no>

O kolaboracji znacznej czesci Zydow z hitlerowcami swiadczyc moze chocby 
przyklad getta warszawskiego gdzie wyslugiwalo sie Niemcom  ponad 2500 
policjantow zydowskich  , 6000 urzednikow gminy zydowskiej oraz 800
pracownikow  Gestapo-Zydow posiadajacych legitymacje urzednicze i bron.
Istniala tam  rowniez tzw. "trzynastka" - komorka tzw. "zydowskiego gestapo" ,
utworzona  przy ul. Leszno 13 na czele ktorej stal Abram Gancweich.
Organizacja ta  wystepujaca pod kryptonimem "Die Fackel" (Zagiew), zajmujac
sie dzialalnoscia  wywiadowcza, wyrzadzila ogromne szkody zarowno Zydom jak i
polskiemu ruchowi  oporu. Po zdlawieniu powstania w getcie warszawskim okolo
300 czlonkow  "Zagwi" mieszkalo nadal na terenie Gestapo w Alei Szucha , bedac
wykorzystywanymi  do wykrywania Zydow przechowywanych w Warszawie , ich
opiekunow oraz komorek  polskich ugrupowan podziemnych. Jak pisze prof. Iwo
Cyprian Pogonowski  "kazdy policjant zydowski w getcie warszawskim wyslal do
komor gazowych  Treblinki przecietnie ponad 2200 osob. Na Umschlagplatzu w
Warszawie policja  zydowska dawala strawe w wagonach smierci , zeby do nich
zwabiac wyglodzonych  mieszkancow getta . 
Tragedia zydowska podczas drugiej wojny swiatowej polegala 
rowniez na tym ,ze wladze niemieckie dokonaly ludobojstwa Zydow glownie 
zydowskimi rekami". Z kolei zydowska uczona Hannah Arendt mowiac o  roli 
Judenratow w bezwolnym i serwilistycznym wykonywaniu morderczych zadan 
 hitlerowcow konkludowala "Dla Zydow rola , jaka przywodcy zydowscy odegrali 
w unicestwieniu wlasnego narodu , stanowi niewatpliwie najczarniejszy rozdzial
calej tej ponurej historii (...) Wszedzie , gdzie zyli Zydzi , istnieli 
uznani przywodcy zydowscy , i to wlasnie oni, niemal bez wyjatku ,
wspoldzialali  w ten czy inny sposob, z takiej czy innej przyczyny z nazistami
[hitlerowcami  - P.J.] . 
Cala prawda przedstawia sie tak ,ze gdyby narod zydowski byl 
istotnie niezorganizowany i pozbawiony przywodztwa , zapanowalby chaos, 
liczba ofiar z pewnoscia nie siegnela by 4,5 - 6 milionow ludzi". H.Arendt 
powolala sie przy tym na oceny sugerujace, ze gdyby nie trzymano sie scisle 
 zalecen Judenratow , z powyzszej liczby Zydow moglaby sie uratowac mniej 
wiecej polowa.

http://www.kki.pl/piojar/polemiki/holocaust/odp_1.html

 
>On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:08:44 -0700, Joel Eichmann
> wrote:

>It will not be surprising for researchers in Poland, Russia and even
>Germany and Switzerland, to produce even more evidence of even more
>COLLABORATION between the zionists and their colleagues in Germany!!

>>On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 08:41:32 -0700, dandelion 
>>wrote:

>>Now that more and more research, with supporting documentation, is
>>being made public, documenting the collaboration of the ZIONAZIS with
>>the nazis, slime like Shiksa Sueee Cohen do not want this TRUTH made
>>public.

>>Even German historians such as C. Lange are now making public their
>>findings, to the chagrin of the ZHID COLLABORATORS.

>>It was not only the KASTNER CASE!!


>>>On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 09:27:47 -0700, Susan Shiksa Cohen
>>> wrote:

>>>>It will not be surprising to find after even more research, that even
>>>>more incidents of ZHID/Nazi COLLABORATION happened!!

>>>>Surely this should cause those countries paying tribute dollars to the
>>>>ZHIDS, to consider demanding repayment?


On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:25:52 GMT, c@c.cc wrote:
51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis  
By Lenni Brenner, ed. Barricade Books, 2002, 342 pp. List: $22; AET:
$15.
Reviewed by Sara Powell

It's no secret that Zionism embraced political expediency to advance
the cause of carving Eretz-Israel from the land of its native
inhabitants. In his 1983 book, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators,
Lenni Brenner shows that 20th century Zionists observed shockingly few
imits to that expediency. Not surprisingly, the book received little
coverage in the American media. 

Now, in 51 Documents, Brenner has compiled a wide variety of letters, 
statements, articles, and judgements?some of which appeared in his
earlier book?by a broad array of activists and authors, that documents Zionist
cooperration with the Nazis. 

On the face of it, the notion seems absurd. However, Brenner
presents the case?made in many Zionists? own words?that the Nazi
agenda of expelling the Jews from Germany fit nicely with the Zionist
plan for enticing those Jews into settling in Palestine and creating a
new Jewish nation. 

In addition to introductory and concluding chapters, the book is
organized into five sections which lead the reader through early,
pre-Zionist documents; pre-Holocaust ideological factions; the
Holocaust era itself; and a chapter on the Stern Gang and the Nazis.
Readers should note that a few documents are not indicative of
collaboration in and of themselves, but provide the background to
others written in response. 

These latter do indicate levels of collaboration between Zionists and 
fascists, both the Nazis in Germany, and those in Mussolini?s Italy. 
Brenner?s brief explanatory notes at the beginning of each document 
are helpful, as are the glossary and index.

51 Documents assumes a certain knowledge of Zionist history, and
requires a close reading and some deconstructive efforts on the part
of the reader. Those willing to commit the time and effort, however,
are rewarded with some stunning revelations. The reason some Zionists
eschewed the boycott against Hitler?s Germany, for instance, is that
they had a financial deal?Ha?avara?with Germany allowing Jews to
exchange their wealth for goods to be exported to Palestine at less of
a loss, as an incentive to emigrate. Those wondering why Zionists
today are so organized and experienced in their public relations
efforts discover that these battles have been fought before. Moreover,
the section on Nazi and Zionist understandings of ?nationality? versus
citizenship reveals how German and Israeli practices are based on the
same concept. 

51 Documents also sheds a whole new light on the term "Holocaust
guilt"  frequently understood to mean Western, non-Jewish guilt for
not acting against the Holocaust earlier. However, these documents
make it clear that Holocaust guilt began with those Zionists who made
the undoubtedly difficult, but politically expedient choice to place
Eretz-Israel at the top of their priorities, above the lives of their
threatened European brethren.

>From a Zionist Executive Meeting speech by Yitzhak Gruenbaum on 
Feb.18, 1943:

And when some asked me: 'Can?t you give money from Keren Ha Yesod
(Palestine Foundation Fund) to save Jews in the Diaspora?' I said:
'No!' And again I say no....And, because of these things, people
called me an anti-Semite, and concluded that I?m guilty, for the fact
that we don't give ourselves completely to rescue actions. (p. 211)

However difficult it may be, the reader must confront some rather
disturbing conclusions. The most unsettling realization for this
reviewer is that pre-Holocaust Zionists were able to politically align
themselves with the Nazis because both groups fundamentally saw race
as an important dividing line?and, moreover, were determined to keep
it that way. 

>From Vladimir Jabotinsky to Albert Einstein,"assimilation" of Jews 
into the societies in which they lived was not an acceptable option. 
Rather, Jewish nationalism required equality on a national level, not 
a personal one. As Jabotinsky explained, ?It is impossible for a man 
to become assimilated with people whose blood is different from his
own? 
(p. 10); in Einstein?s words, ?Palestine is first and foremost not a 
refuge for East European Jews, but the incarnation of a reawakening 
sense of national solidarity? (p. 29).

Finally, David Yisraeli, a member of the Stern Gang, wrote the
following in late 1940, as part of a proposal to Hitler. It was
delivered in 1941 to two German diplomats in Lebanon.

3. The establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and
totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would be
in the interest of a maintained and strengthened future German
position of power in the Near East (p. 301).

Such beliefs, of course, were not limited to Nazis and Zionists.
Scientific and philosophical constructs of the day considered such
differentiation legitimate, and ideas of racial difference?and,
therefore, racial supremacy?were practiced around the world.

Another disturbing conclusion a reader must inevitably face is that
Zionists learned both tactical and political lessons from the Nazis
and that, even today, these lessons are applied to further the Zionist
cause. Although most likely known to potential readers of this book,
another disturbing element is the cover-up of the less than savory
roles of current Israeli leaders, including former prime ministers, in
the terrorist Irgun and Stern Gang just before, during, and after the
Holocaust. Likewise, the succumbing of various U.S. officials to
Zionist pressure is a familiar, but distressing, story.

51 Documents seems to represent a renewed attempt by Brenner to bring
information regarding Zionist collaboration with the Nazis to U.S.
supporters of Israel, as well as to Jews and Muslims, in order to
expand dialogue with knowledge, and save lives?both Palestinian and
Israeli?in the process. Readers of 51 Documents will find it difficult
not to remove the rose colored glasses that so many seem to wear when
examining Zionism.



# 5                           The Kastner Case
Extracted from a pamphlet issued by BAZO-PS - 1981

Introduction

The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is 
that involving Rudolf Kastner.

Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. 
Those who have, are generally under the impression that 
there is some "controversy" about negotiations he undertook 
for "the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military 
equipment," but that he was "fully rehabilitated" by the
Supreme Court of Israel.

The Accusations

Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the 
British Medical Research Council, was one of the few 
escapees from Auschwitz. In his memoirs published in 
February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he wrote:

I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - 
I accuse certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly 
deeds of the war.

This small group of quislings knew what was happening to 
their brethren in Hitler's gas chambers and bought their 
own lives with the price of silence. 

Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke 
for all Jews in Hungary. 

While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz - the number is 
still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics of the
exterminations...I took these terrible statistics with me 
when I escaped in 1944 and I was able to give Hungarian 
Zionist leaders three weeks notice that Eichmann planned 
to send a million of their Jews to his gas chambers...
Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, "I know of your plans; 
spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet."

Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. 
uniform and took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. 
Nor did the sordid bargaining end there.

Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this 
little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom 
when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine...
(Ben Hecht, Perfidy, pp 261-2)

These accusations are confirmed by the "Eichmann Confessions" 
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

"I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the 
commander stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off 
in a lightning operation, I wanted to set an example for 
future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to Himmler's 
directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
political officials in Budapest...Among them, Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. 

This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold 
lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the 
Jews from resisting deportation - and even keep order in the 
collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a few
hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to 
Palestine. It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the 
camps, the price...was not too high for me.

"...We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, 
Kastner smoked cigarets as though he were in a coffeehouse. 
While we talked he would smoke one aromatic cigaret after 
another, taking them from a silver case and lighting them 
with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

"Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for 
a select group of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Palestune...

"As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity 
between our attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these 
immensely idealistic Zionist leaders....I believe that Kastner 
would have sacrificed a thousand or a hundred thousand of his 
blood to achieve his political goal...
'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have 
this group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great 
service by helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I 
would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...
That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner." 
(Hecht, Ibid., pp.260-61)

Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false, 
do not relate merely to "the purchase of Jewish lives for 
money and military equipment."

Are the accusations against Kastner true?

According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. 
When Malchiel Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli 
citizen published these accusations against Kastner, the 
Israeli Government did rather more  than demand that his 
views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent Zionist 
official Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of 
Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General 
of the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.

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Posted by Robert E. Nordlander
nord@powernetonline.com


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


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NAMBLA executive Ken McVay.

We  like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.

CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even 
VISIT me at:
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office: VISIT at:
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Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
work:(780)492-0473


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JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

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ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
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Vergiss niemal!

On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 18:37:04 +0200, in de.soc.politik.misc Werner Schneider
 wrote:

Westliche jüdische Kreise waren schon lange vor 1917 daran interessiert, das
Zarenreich zu beseitigen.
1917 ergab sich die Gelegenheit dazu, man musste nur die entsprechenden
Zahlungen auf den Weg bringen.

Dazu reiste Trotzki nach New York und nahm von Jakob Schiff, Hauptaktionär 
des jüdischen Bankhauses Kuhn Loeb & Co., 10 Millionen Dollar entgegen (heute
etwa 150 Mio Dollar), meist in kleinen Goldmünzen, die in Russland an
zaristische Soldaten verteilt wurden. Am 27.3.1917 ging Trotzki an Bord des
Schiffes "Christiana" und reiste nach Russland, wobei er noch
jüdisch-russische Revolutionäre mitnahm.

Eine zweite grosse Finanztranche erhielten die Bolschewiki über Max Warburg,
jüdisch-deutscher Bankier und Chef des deutschen Geheimdienstes
während des 1.Weltkrieges. Sein Bruder Paul war übrigens Chef der amerikan.
Federal Reserve Bank.
Gezahlt wurden durch den Warburg-Mittelsmann Parvus 6 Millionen Dollar in Gold
(heute etwa 100 Mio $), und zwar an Lenin, die dieser bei seiner Durchreise
1917 mitnahm.

Kuhn Loeb & Co. arbeitete auch nach der Revolution bestens mit den Bolschewiki
zusammen. Das Bankhaus beteiligte sich an der Finanzierung des ersten
Fünfjahrplanes. 600 Millionen Dollar in Gold gingen allerdings von Russland an
Kuhn Loeb.

Es ist schon bemerkenswert gewesen:
Jüdische Erzkapitalisten verhelfen den Verstaatlichern in Russland zum Sieg
und machen mit ihnen beste Geschäfte.

Ach so, jaja, die Quellen:

Sutton, Anthony C., Wallstreet and the Bolshevik
Revolution, Arlington House, 1974

Pearson, Michael, Der plombierte Wagen - Lenins Weg
aus dem Exil zur Macht, München 1973

Werner

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


Reply-To: Frank Arthur , or to
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