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On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 23:52:29 -0600, "Mr Frederick" 
wrote:
>"DrErnstZundholz"  wrote in message
>news:b93fk2l5sh80jsun376vlstu614o35v73i@4ax.com...
>> Now the media are reporting, that WEM are trying to have the FREE
>> shuttle bus to the Enoch Casino, relocated from the present stop,
>> across the road on 87 Avenue from WEM.

> Apparently the business of the Enoch Casino is so crappy they have to use
>West Edmonton Mall as an attraction.


Business at the Enoch Casino is BOOMING!!

Don't forget that the workers at the WEM Casino have been on strike for more
than a month!

Don't forget all the bad international publicity about the smell of sewage at
the WEM Waterpark, publicised worldwide to convince tourists to avoid the
foul, unsanitary WEM!

If business was not so good at the Enoch casino, why are the Ghermezians
complaining about the ETS busses taking customers to Enoch, from across the
road from WEM?


From DrErnstZundholz@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:56:23 EDT 2007
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On Wed, 1 Nov 2006 18:37:35 -0600, "Mr Frederick" 
wrote:
>"DrErnstZundholz"  wrote in message
>news:0gkhk2p0ka52ks8k2ghclq14b0n41v0qr5@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 23:52:29 -0600, "Mr Frederick" 
>> wrote:
>>>"DrErnstZundholz"  wrote in
>>>message
>>>news:b93fk2l5sh80jsun376vlstu614o35v73i@4ax.com...
>>>> Now the media are reporting, that WEM are trying to have the FREE
>>>> shuttle bus to the Enoch Casino, relocated from the present stop,
>>>> across the road on 87 Avenue from WEM.
>>
>>> Apparently the business of the Enoch Casino is so crappy they have to use
>>>West Edmonton Mall as an attraction.

>> Business at the Enoch Casino is BOOMING!!

>Then why do they think they have to go to West Ed to beg people to get on
>the bus?  If business is booming, why do they need to bus people in, period?

It is an added service for those people, such as seniors, who do not have a
car.

Plus, for their staff, who would not be taking up parking spots which can be
more profitably used by customers driving to Enoch to spend their money.

All in all, a good business service to customers and staff.

By the way, love the ads on radio from the striking WEM Casino staffers,
asking customers to avoid the casino at WEM!!

More encouragement for people to avoid WEM and the filth there, and go to a
clean, sanitasry Casino at Enoch!!




From DrErnstZundholz@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:56:23 EDT 2007
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From: DrErnstZundholz 
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On Wed, 1 Nov 2006 23:50:14 -0600, "Mr Frederick" 
wrote:
>"DrErnstZundholz"  wrote in message 
>news:m8jik2h4oesorrk02h0u0e2g6ee8rd0mi7@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 1 Nov 2006 18:37:35 -0600, "Mr Frederick"  wrote:
>>>"DrErnstZundholz"  wrote in 
>>>message
>>>news:0gkhk2p0ka52ks8k2ghclq14b0n41v0qr5@4ax.com...
>>>> On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 23:52:29 -0600, "Mr Frederick" 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>"DrErnstZundholz"  wrote in
>>>>>message
>>>>>news:b93fk2l5sh80jsun376vlstu614o35v73i@4ax.com...
>>>>>> Now the media are reporting, that WEM are trying to have the FREE
>>>>>> shuttle bus to the Enoch Casino, relocated from the present stop,
>>>>>> across the road on 87 Avenue from WEM.

>>>>> Apparently the business of the Enoch Casino is so crappy they have to 
>>>>> use West Edmonton Mall as an attraction.

>>>> Business at the Enoch Casino is BOOMING!!

>>>Then why do they think they have to go to West Ed to beg people to get on
>>>the bus?  If business is booming, why do they need to bus people in, 
>>>period?

>> It is an added service for those people, such as seniors, who do not have 
>> a car.

>> Plus, for their staff, who would not be taking up parking spots which can 
>> be more profitably used by customers driving to Enoch to spend their money.

>So you think it is ethical for their staff to steal parking at West Ed? 

Are you certifiably insane?

If a staffer has a car, he would drive right to the door of the Enoch Casino,
saving time and inconvenience in this freezing weather, dummy!

The bus service is for customers and staff who do not have a car.

That the WEM Casino is going under is their own fault. Just listen to the
radio ads of the striking WEM Casino staff.


From JStreicher@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:56:23 EDT 2007
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From: JStreicher 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,edm.general,ab.general,tor.general,soc.culture.canada
Subject: CRA/Tax Department Going After "Underground Economy" & Tax Cheats
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CRA/Tax Department are now agressively chasing those tax evaders and avoiders
operating as part of the underground economy.

This includes those selling merchandise at flea markets, from garage sales,
and especially on internet newsgroups.

The government is chasing these people for not only Income Tax, but also for
unpaid GS & HST where applicable.

Interest and penalties can amount to far more than the actual taxes owing,
since by being in business, such as selling many used computers, the onus is
on the taxpayer to prove innocence.

Ignorance of the laws is no excuse.

No wonder CRA has been hiring thousands of new auditors and investigators,
especially in western Canada where the economy is booming, and so are the tax
cheats.


From JStreicher@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:56:24 EDT 2007
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From: JStreicher 
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Subject: Re: CRA/Tax Department Going After "Underground Economy" & Tax Cheats
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It seems soneone is now advising you to commit TAX FRAUD, on top of tax
evasion.

CRA just love these idiots, since they can then prosecute for both CRIMINAL
and civil charges!!

On 2 Nov 2006 17:55:14 -0800, "Vicegerent"  wrote:

>Well, there is a very simple solution to these
>scare tactics and 'imminent terrorist attacks'
>by CRA.
>
>Learn the very easy method of 'filing for your
>STRAWMAN'.
>
>Just go to: http://www.detaxcanada,org/filingT1.htm
>or: http://kanata.250free.com/filingT1.htm
>
>The info is free, and is totally legal and
>effective.
>[Regardless what the Damage Control Goons
>for the extortion racket called income tax -
>such as Abbot and Nobody, may spew in
>their 'ad hominum' and dis-information attacks
>on Eldon Warman, and his $0.00 tax owing
>T1 filing method]
>
>Vicegerent
>
>> JStreicher wrote:
>> CRA/Tax Department are now aggressively chasing those tax evaders and
>> avoiders operating as part of the underground economy.
>>
>(clipped for brevity)
>>
>> Ignorance of the laws is no excuse.
>>
>> No wonder CRA has been hiring thousands of new auditors and investigators,
>> especially in western Canada where the economy is booming, and so are the
>> tax cheats.
>>
>> For the Canada Revenue Agency, who are a COLLECTION AGENCY after all,
>> monitoring newsgroups on internet has proven to be a gold mine for collecting
>> from tax scammers who do not declare their income properly!!



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On Sat, 4 Nov 2006 00:17:59 -0600, "Mr Frederick" 
wrote:
>"DrErnstZundholz"  wrote in message 
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>> On Wed, 1 Nov 2006 23:50:14 -0600, "Mr Frederick" 
>> wrote:
>>>"DrErnstZundholz"  wrote in 
>>>message
>>>news:m8jik2h4oesorrk02h0u0e2g6ee8rd0mi7@4ax.com...
>>>> On Wed, 1 Nov 2006 18:37:35 -0600, "Mr Frederick" 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>"DrErnstZundholz"  wrote in
>>>>>message
>>>>>news:0gkhk2p0ka52ks8k2ghclq14b0n41v0qr5@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 23:52:29 -0600, "Mr Frederick"
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>"DrErnstZundholz"  wrote in
>>>>>>>message
>>>>>>>news:b93fk2l5sh80jsun376vlstu614o35v73i@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>> Now the media are reporting, that WEM are trying to have the FREE
>>>>>>>> shuttle bus to the Enoch Casino, relocated from the present stop,
>>>>>>>> across the road on 87 Avenue from WEM.
>>
>>>>>>> Apparently the business of the Enoch Casino is so crappy they have to
>>>>>>> use West Edmonton Mall as an attraction.
>>
>>>>>> Business at the Enoch Casino is BOOMING!!
>>
>>>>>Then why do they think they have to go to West Ed to beg people to get on
>>>>>the bus?  If business is booming, why do they need to bus people in,
>>>>>period?
>>
>>>> It is an added service for those people, such as seniors, who do not 
>>>> have a car.
>>
>>>> Plus, for their staff, who would not be taking up parking spots which  can
>>>> be more profitably used by customers driving to Enoch to spend their 
>>>> money.
>>
>>>So you think it is ethical for their staff to steal parking at West Ed?
>>
>> Are you certifiably insane?
>>
>> If a staffer has a car, he would drive right to the door of the Enoch 
>> Casino, saving time and inconvenience in this freezing weather, dummy!
>>
>> The bus service is for customers and staff who do not have a car.

>And how do they get to West Ed? 

Are you really as stupid as you seem?
Have you never heard of the ETS BUSES?

No wonder you are a joke!



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From: DrErnstZundholz 
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Subject: Canadian Banks Useless - Discourage Foreign Businesses to Locate in Canada!!
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 11:22:03 -0700
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A key reason that is discouraging foreign businesses to locate in Canada,
 is the uselessness of the Canadian banking system.

For a US business to transfer $200,000 to a customer in Canada, according 
to 4 banks, will take 6-12 business working days, meaning several actual
weeks, unless one wants to pay for instant service with Western Union, 
at a cost of $8,120!!
It would make no difference whether the firm paid by wire transfer, or by 
bank cashier's cheque!!

In the USA, such a transaction would take but a few minutes!

The US banks could not believe the situation is so mickey-mouse in Canada.

The US business cancelled all flights for Canada, cancelled all deals pending
for Canada, and said they would pass the word around, to others considering
Canada!!

Of course the sller would not be willing to transfer title to a firm in a
foreign country, and then have to wait weeks to get paid.

And the US buyer wanted to pay there and then, and take the goods back to the
USA.


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From: DrErnstZundholz 
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Subject: Remembrance Day for ALL - No HOLOHOAX Day Just for Zyds!!
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 11:36:33 -0700
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It seems that the government forgot to schedule a national HOLOHOAX Day for
the ZHIDS April 19 or 20 this year,with all the scandals involving the crooked
Lieberals, !!


On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 11:52:57 -0700, Felix Dzerzhinsky 
wrote:

Header asks a very relevant question, especially now that there are at least
52 well-documented cases of ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS, 
not forgetting the notorious KASTNER  CASE!!

Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is exposed as a Nazi GESTAPO
COLLABORATOR!!

Why a special day, paid by taxpayers, just for the Christkiller ZHIDS?


>On 1 Feb 2005 03:38:19 -0000, Hans Wapnigg  wrote:
>>From: Nemo 
>>Newsgroups: can.politics,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.democrats.d,alt.politics.british,aus.politics
>>Subject: Holocaust Memorial Day Should Include Victims Of  All Holocausts Of 20th Century--Not Just Jews
>>Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 05:42:23 MST (pd7tw1no)

>>This day of commiseration should not be limited only to the victims of
>>the Jewish Holocaust perpetrated by European socialists (Nazis and
>>Commies) and their sympathizers during World War II.

>>It should be in sympathy for the tens of millions of victims of
>>Lenin and Stalin in the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe. For example,
>>the massacre of the Kulaks in Ukraine and Russia. The massacre of Polish
>>officers at Katyn by Stalin's Soviet troops which the Commies tried to
>>blame this on their socialist cousins, Hitler's Nazis.

>>The 1 million Armenians massacred by the Turks is also a holocaust that
>>should be commemorated. Then there is the tens of millions of Chinese
>>murdered by Mao in his "Great Leap Forward" and "Cultural Revolution".

>>The genocides by Pol Pot in Cambodia and Mengistu in Ethiopia should
>>also be remembered. And let us not forget the horrible genocide in
>>Ruwanda in the the 1990s in which over 900,000 perished.

>>The fact is that during the 20th century more than 100 million people
>>were murdered by socialists (Commies, Nazis). The six million Jews
>>killed by the Nazis and Communists during WW II are only a fraction
>>(less than 10%) of the total number of victims of the bloodiest century
>>in world history.

>>Notice that disgusting dying AIDS-spreader pervert Ken McVay, refuses to
>>discuss the SUBJECT of the article, because his JEW masters do not
>>want all the sheeple in Canada to start to THINK!!

>>None of the other groups of victims in Canada,or in Europe have received the 
>>same treatment, just the cursed JEWS!!

>>The Acadians of Canada did not get similar treatment from the Jew-controlled
>>government.
>>All the aboriginals murdered by the whites in Canada and USA, and Australia,
>>get no such treatment.
>>All the Ukrainians kept in concentration camps IN CANADA got no such
>>recognition, let alone all the many millions killed by the
>>JEW-controlled Soviets!!
>>There are many groups of people in Canada, and Australia, New Zealand, and 
>>Europe, who are fed up with the special treatment given to those they blame for having 
>>CHRIST killed!!


>>LisaMcVay@wowmail.com (LisaMcVay) wrote in message 
>>news:<9679f676.0311291332.73304b41@posting.google.com>...
>>> How can it be hateful, to complain legitimately about the preferential
>>> treatment given one disgusting group of creatures?

>>> For 2000 years people worldwide have had to suffer at the hands of
>>> those who had Christ murdered, because He exposed their scandalous
>>> conduct in the Jew temples.

>>> Now, Canadians must continue paying for a special holiday, just to
>>> commemmorate the HOLOHOAX!!

>>> No consideration is given to the more than 100 MILLIONS KILLED BY ZHID
>>> COMMUNISM!!


>>Now that normal people have celebrated the real Remembrance Day,
>>supposedly covering all victims of all wars, we can now wonder why
>>should there be another costly day, just for the cursed ZHIDS!!

>>Why should Canadians have to pay each year, and celebrate
>>HOLOHOAX Day, just for the nuisance ZHIDS? Is it true that
>>the filthy ZHIDS, like the BRONFMANs, control Canada?
>>Why should Canadian businesses have to pay for another
>>worthless statutory holiday, and pay staff for NOT WORKING,
>>just to satisfy some ZHIDS?

>>We already have Remembrance Day, supposedly to remember ALL
>>who died in ALL WARS.

>>We do not celebrate the HOLOCAUST of the Armenians by the Turks.
>>We do not celebrate the NANKING massacre of the Chinese by Japan.
>>We do not celebrate the genocide of German POWs in concentration
>>camps by the Allies in 1945-6.

>>Canada doesn't even celebrate the Ukrainian HOLOCAUST/FAMINE murders
>>of the tens of millions in the 1930's.
>>Canada does not celebrate the 100 millions killed by the ZHID Soviets before 
>>and during WW2.
>>Canada does not celebrate the tens of thousands of innocent Palestinians 
>>murdered by the Israeli occupation forces.Have you forgotten Sabra and Shatilla?

>>Canada doesn't celebrate the tens of thousands of natives it killed, so why the 
>>ZHIDS?
>>Australia does not celebrate all the abos killed since the British occupied 
>>Australia.

>>So why should we have a ZHID DAY?!!
>>Is it true that the BRONFMAN ZHIDS - who cheated the Canadian Tax Department
>>of unpaid $1,500 MILLIONS in taxes - do control the Canadian Government?
>>The gutless politicians who approved this discrimination should be  exterminated!!

>>Complain to your MPs, and let them know, you are fed up with ZHID control of 
>>Canada, Australia,or wherever you live!!

>>Why should sovereign countries in Europe have to kowtow to the disgusting 
>>Christkiller ZHIDS,
>>and have a special day, just for them, when they have no such special day for 
>>those of their own people who were killed by, or because of the ZHIDS?


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
work:(780)492-0473

And also: George Firestone: "George" 

Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
for many years around the world.



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Maybe he means the Judge who sentenced him for tax evasion and fraud?
Who was his lawyer, Richard Warman?

On 4 Nov 2006 10:12:52 -0800, "Abbot"  wrote:

>Abbot) Readers will note Eldon has no explanation why using methods
>already proven failures he has sent several detax wannabe's, including
>his latest victim Cameron Hardy, to ruin. Maybe the rumor mill is
>correct and Eldon Warman is a government/CRA agent?
>
>Maybe that's why the judge let him off with merely time served in his
>assault case back in 1999?
>
>Maybe that's why the court decided not to lay the heavy fine on him
>after his hate speech conviction?
>
>So, Eldon, who is your "contact" in the government?
>
>Vicegerent wrote:
>> Well, folks, there is a very simple solution to
>> these scare tactics and 'imminent terrorist
>> attacks' by CRA.
>>
>> Learn the very easy method of 'filing for your
>> STRAWMAN'.
>>
>> Just go to:
>>
>> http://www.detaxcanada,org/filingT1.htm
>> or: http://kanata.250free.com/filingT1.htm
>>
>> The info is free, and is totally legal and
>> effective.
>>
>> And, as I told you in my above post,
>> the 'GOONS' would immediately show
>> up with their blather and inuendo -
>> no facts or proof, of course, to their
>> BUSH type terrorist tactics.
>>
>> [Regardless what the Damage Control Goons
>> for the extortion racket called income tax -
>> such as Abbot and Nobody, may spew in
>> their 'ad hominum' and dis-information attacks
>> on Eldon Warman, and his $0.00 tax owing
>> T1 filing method]
>> 
>> Vicegerent



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On Sat, 4 Nov 2006 13:34:03 -0600, "Mr Frederick" 
wrote:
>"ProBonoPublico"  wrote in message 
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>> On Sat, 4 Nov 2006 00:17:59 -0600, "Mr Frederick" 
>> wrote:
>>>"DrErnstZundholz"  wrote in 
>>>message
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>>>> On Wed, 1 Nov 2006 23:50:14 -0600, "Mr Frederick" 
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>"DrErnstZundholz"  wrote in
>>>>>message
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>>>>>> On Wed, 1 Nov 2006 18:37:35 -0600, "Mr Frederick"
>>>>>>  wrote:
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>>>>>>>message
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>>>>>>>> On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 23:52:29 -0600, "Mr Frederick"
>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>"DrErnstZundholz"  wrote in
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>>>>>>>>>news:b93fk2l5sh80jsun376vlstu614o35v73i@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>> Now the media are reporting, that WEM are trying to have the FREE
>>>>>>>>>> shuttle bus to the Enoch Casino, relocated from the present stop,
>>>>>>>>>> across the road on 87 Avenue from WEM.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Apparently the business of the Enoch Casino is so crappy they have 
>>>>>>>>> to use West Edmonton Mall as an attraction.
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Business at the Enoch Casino is BOOMING!!
>>>>
>>>>>>>Then why do they think they have to go to West Ed to beg people to get on
>>>>>>>the bus?  If business is booming, why do they need to bus people in,
>>>>>>>period?
>>>>
>>>>>> It is an added service for those people, such as seniors, who do not
>>>>>> have a car.
>>>>
>>>>>> Plus, for their staff, who would not be taking up parking spots which  can
>>>>>> be more profitably used by customers driving to Enoch to spend their
>>>>>> money.
>>>>
>>>>>So you think it is ethical for their staff to steal parking at West Ed?
>>>>
>>>> Are you certifiably insane?
>>>>
>>>> If a staffer has a car, he would drive right to the door of the Enoch
>>>> Casino, saving time and inconvenience in this freezing weather, dummy!
>>>>
>>>> The bus service is for customers and staff who do not have a car.
>>
>>>And how do they get to West Ed?
>>
>> Are you really as stupid as you seem?
>> Have you never heard of the ETS BUSES?
>>
>> No wonder you are a joke!
>
>Some people just plain don't get it.  It still means West Ed is being used 
>as an attraction by a big smokey gambling house with no water park,
You meran the one contaminated, which the Health Inspectors had to issue a
WARNING TO THE PUBLIC ABOUT, that one?

> no food courts, 

Enoch just has world class buffets and restaurants, which do not exist at WEM
with all their cockroaches and stench of sewage!

no amusement park, no theatres, no department stores, no RV and 
>trailer parking, no theme streets, no miniature golf, no IMAX, no Sea Life 
>Caverns, just smoking and a chance to lose money.  

Just a world class 5 star hotel, unlike the dump at WEM.

Plus a major mall under construction to help wipe WEM off the map!!


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The Edmonton Journal, in a banner headline story onthe front page  in the
issue for Fraiday 27 October 2006, reported on the insanitary conditions at
the WEM Waterpark, as detailed by the Health Inspectors!!

Capital Health reported that waterslides and decks at West Edmonton Mall
Waterpark [WEM] were covered in scum, mould, dirt and algae on this past
Tuesday, and some areas were full of the smell of sewage!!

The facility and equipment were in disrepair and not being maintained in a
clean and sanitary manner, the environmental health officer further reported,
in a 3 page cpomplaint filed with Nader and Eskander Ghermezian, operators of
WEM.

The Health Inspector further noted that chemical testing stations were soilded
and disorderly and that filtration and mechanical rooms were dirty and
cluttered.

The Health Inspector also cited WEM for not having a competent operator at
nights and on weekends, to take necessary corrective actions to ensure safe
water quality.

Improperly chlorinated water can lead to serious enteric and other water
diseases, such as e-coli and cryptosporidium, according to the Health
Inspector.

Capital Health further stated that this latest citation follows 2 previous
complaints regarding similar deficiencies.

West Edmonton Mall has twice in the past 2 years been flooded with human
sewage, due to faulty plumbing, which seems to have never been properly
repaired.




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The Edmonton Journal had several pages of news in the paper for Friday 27
October 2006, promoting the suberb facility at Enoch.

Now the flunkies at WEM are complaining that smoking is allowed at Enoch,
which is an independent NATION, while at WEM smoking is not allowed, so 
their customers are flooding to Enoch.

Further, Enoch have a shuttle bus service, from across the road at WEM on
87 Avenue, taking WEM customers, for FREE, to Enoch!!

Then to add insult to insury, the Journal had a banner headline story about
INSANITARY CONDITIONS AT WEM WATERPARK!!
No wonder people get sick there, with fecal contamination and worse!!

And do not forget the supersize COCKROACHES near the food stalls at WEM!!


On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 18:30:34 -0500, "Nomad"  wrote:
>"GourdMcVay"  wrote in message
>news:mpenj2hmvj0pmba902q6b76jffk5a6dvtm@4ax.com...
>> On 7 September 2006, the Edmonton Journal again did a banner headline
>> feature on the coming opening next month of the Enoch Cree Casino and hotel
>> development.

>> It  OPENED TODAY , putting more pressure on the dying West
>> Edmonton Mall.

>> At the same time, media are reporting that the casino at West Edmonton
>> Mall is having a strike of employees. If it lasts for a few more weeks, all
>> their customers will be flooding into the new Enoch Casino, a few blocks away.

>> The operators of the WEM Casino admit they are losing 45% of their
>> business, so far, due to the strike. With Enoch opening, they will probably go under
>> at WEM.

>> To add insult to injury, while the WEM casino prohibits smoking, at Enoch
>> smokers are welcome!!

>...yep, and another case where the white man gets screwed!   Aaaaaa equality
>at it's best.

What a load of horse puckey!!

The Enoch Band paid out all their oil and gas revenues, not from white man
taxes!!

They have a first-class facility there, much better than the WEM dump!!



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Subject: FIRE Lowry!! Make Lowry PAY!! EPCOR Screws Up - Penalized $450,000!!  Repost
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Glad to see that the finance and collections manager for Leduc was 
on his toes, and did the job for which he gets paid!!

Time to FIRE Lowry, after recovering the $450 Grand from his pay!!

Anyone stupid enough to hire this scammaer, deserves to get swindled.


On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:34:46 GMT, LordTweedsmuir
 wrote:
>On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 16:04:02 GMT, LordTweedsmuir
> wrote:

>>The Journal for today, Wednesday 20 September 2006, reports that EPCOR
>>management failed to pay a bill in connection with their power plant, and
>>consequently had to pay a penalty of $450,000!!

>Will Lowry get FIRED for his negligence, or will he pass the buck on some
>junior staffer?

>>Will he be required to pay this penalty, out of his salary and bonuses, since
>>he is respondible?

>>Or, will he try to get the Utilities Board to raise rates to EPCOR customers
>>to make up for his negligence?



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Not even the Canadian CRTC can force a US website to close!!
Canada is not yet a part of the USA, and stupid Canadian court orders do not
have any effect in the USA, where FREEDOM OF SPEECH is protected by the
Constitution.

In the meantime, the US-based website for  the former Reinhard Mueller
continues in operation, even though a flunky Canuck judge had ordered it to be
closed.

On 25 Aug 2006 03:27:45 -0700, "Toto the Dog"  wrote:

>CRTC Refuses To Issue Immediate Ban On This Website
>Google Bans Name "Dossier Noir"; "Dosier Noir" Opens

>8/23/2006 5:36:18 PM
>Discuss this story in the forum
>LSN Staff

>Ottawa, Canada -- The Canadian Radio-Television and Telecommunications
>Council today refused to grant Jewish Canadian attorney Richard Warman
>an immediate ban on this website and its IP, as Google banned any
>blogger user from using the name "Dossier Noir", causing Bill White to
>set up a new Google blog account "Dosier Noir".

>"They act like no one has tried to take me off the internet before,"
>White, a real estate investor who previously owned an internet
>consulting business told the press, "There is nothing they can do,
>technically, that I cannot circumvent, if I decide its worth the time
>and money to do so."

>White told the Canadian Press today that he felt the Canadian
>government was making his point: That peaceful political change in
>Canada is no longer possible, and that it is time for Canadians to take
>up arms. When asked about how Jews in the country perceive him as evil,
>White said:

>"Good always looks evil to evil."

>White said his comments about Canada and the need for a change in the
>Canadian government were no different than similar comments US and
>Canadian Jews have made about the need for "regime change" in Iraq or
>North Korea:

>"If we can go to war to establish democracy in Iraq, a country
>thousands of miles away, then we can certainly go to war to
>re-establish democracy on our Northern border."

>White has been battling the Canadian government for years, insulting
>its Jewish leaders and harassing its intelligence and military
>officials. In 2003, Bernie Farber attempted to shut down this website
>after White published a poem entitled "slaughter of Zion". 

>In 2004, the Canadian Security and Intelligence Service attempted to come after
>White after White got the private cell phone number of its Director and
>began calling him in the evening to ask why he was harassing Ernst
>Zundel. Earlier this year, Canadian newspapers, all of which are owned
>by the Jews David and Leonard Asper, attacked White for supporting
>white nationalist Alex Linder and imprisoned Canadian dissident Tom
>Winnicki.

>"When men can no longer peacefuly express their dissent with their
>government," White says, "They have no choice but to resort to
>non-peaceful means.

>"I mean, what does Warman think? That we're just going to let him
>imprison and harass and victimize people while we stand by and smile?
>Let him meet his just fate -- execution at the hands of a people's
>government."

>White contends that Jews have taken over the Canadian media -- directly
>owning almost all of it -- and use that, combined with their
>international political influence, to control the Canadian government
>and use it to exploit, rob and murder Canada's white population.

Emailed to you by:

Libertarian Socialist News
ATTN: Bill White, Editor

Post Office Box 8631
Roanoke, VA 24014

http://www.overthrow.com
dhyphen@yahoo.com



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On Sat, 4 Nov 2006 17:16:13 -0700, "TopPoster           ."
 wrote:
>From: "TopPoster           ." 
>Newsgroups: edm.general,ab.general,edm.politics,calgary.general,soc.culture.canada

>Subject: Re: ENOCH CASINO & DEVELOPMENT-Open Last Week=KISS OF DEATH FOR WEM!! Hooray!! More

>Only a retard like you would drive to WEM park your car and take the free 
>bus, people with cars drive to the Indian casino and park for free

One must wonder, does the Wakefield poster work for WEM perhaps as a janitor?

Presumably he is severely mentally challenged, since several people have
already explained that people with cars drive directly to the fantastic Enoch
Casino.

Only people without cars would use ETS to WEM, and then take the FREE shuttle
bus to the Enoch Casino!!


>Socrates taught his students that the pursuit of truth can only begin once
>they start to question and analyze every belief that they ever held dear. If
>a certain belief passes the tests of evidence, deduction, and logic, it
>should be kept. If it doesn't, the belief should not only be discarded, but
>the thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the erroneous

>"Mr Frederick"  wrote in message 
>news:SW53h.36754$Jt3.32158@newsfe16.lga...
>> "ProBonoPublico"  wrote in message 
>> news:8cfpk21ke3ltqhn4srcqtfp8bn6jvkfrk4@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 4 Nov 2006 00:17:59 -0600, "Mr Frederick" 
>>> wrote:
>>>>"DrErnstZundholz"  wrote in 
>>>>message
>>>>news:lb5kk2h87or33u9c0inbiona8ftd81f32g@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Wed, 1 Nov 2006 23:50:14 -0600, "Mr Frederick" 
>>>>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>"DrErnstZundholz"  wrote in
>>>>>>message
>>>>>>news:m8jik2h4oesorrk02h0u0e2g6ee8rd0mi7@4ax.com...
>>>>>>> On Wed, 1 Nov 2006 18:37:35 -0600, "Mr Frederick"
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>"DrErnstZundholz"  wrote in
>>>>>>>>message
>>>>>>>>news:0gkhk2p0ka52ks8k2ghclq14b0n41v0qr5@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 23:52:29 -0600, "Mr Frederick"
>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>"DrErnstZundholz"  wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>message
>>>>>>>>>>news:b93fk2l5sh80jsun376vlstu614o35v73i@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>>> Now the media are reporting, that WEM are trying to have the FREE
>>>>>>>>>>> shuttle bus to the Enoch Casino, relocated from the present stop,
>>>>>>>>>>> across the road on 87 Avenue from WEM.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Apparently the business of the Enoch Casino is so crappy they have 
>>>>>>>>>> to use West Edmonton Mall as an attraction.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Business at the Enoch Casino is BOOMING!!
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Then why do they think they have to go to West Ed to beg people to get on
>>>>>>>>the bus?  If business is booming, why do they need to bus people in,
>>>>>>>>period?
>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is an added service for those people, such as seniors, who do not
>>>>>>> have a car.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Plus, for their staff, who would not be taking up parking spots which  can
>>>>>>> be more profitably used by customers driving to Enoch to spend their
>>>>>>> money.
>>>>>
>>>>>>So you think it is ethical for their staff to steal parking at West Ed?
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you certifiably insane?
>>>>>
>>>>> If a staffer has a car, he would drive right to the door of the Enoch
>>>>> Casino, saving time and inconvenience in this freezing weather, dummy!
>>>>>
>>>>> The bus service is for customers and staff who do not have a car.
>>>
>>>>And how do they get to West Ed?
>>>
>>> Are you really as stupid as you seem?
>>> Have you never heard of the ETS BUSES?
>>>
>>> No wonder you are a joke!
>>
>> Some people just plain don't get it.  It still means West Ed is being used 
>> as an attraction by a big smokey gambling house with no water park, no 
>> food courts, no amusement park, no theatres, no department stores, no RV 
>> and trailer parking, no theme streets, no miniature golf, no IMAX, no Sea 
>> Life Caverns, just smoking and a chance to lose money.  If that gives you 
>> a hard-on, good for you.



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It seems that the government forgot to schedule a national HOLOHOAX Day for
the ZHIDS April 19 or 20 this year,with all the scandals involving the crooked
Lieberals, !!


On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 11:52:57 -0700, Felix Dzerzhinsky 
wrote:

Header asks a very relevant question, especially now that there are at least
52 well-documented cases of ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS, 
not forgetting the notorious KASTNER  CASE!!

Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is exposed as a Nazi GESTAPO
COLLABORATOR!!

Why a special day, paid by taxpayers, just for the Christkiller ZHIDS?


>On 1 Feb 2005 03:38:19 -0000, Hans Wapnigg  wrote:
>>From: Nemo 
>>Newsgroups: can.politics,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.democrats.d,alt.politics.british,aus.politics
>>Subject: Holocaust Memorial Day Should Include Victims Of  All Holocausts Of 20th Century--Not Just Jews
>>Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 05:42:23 MST (pd7tw1no)

>>This day of commiseration should not be limited only to the victims of
>>the Jewish Holocaust perpetrated by European socialists (Nazis and
>>Commies) and their sympathizers during World War II.

>>It should be in sympathy for the tens of millions of victims of
>>Lenin and Stalin in the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe. For example,
>>the massacre of the Kulaks in Ukraine and Russia. The massacre of Polish
>>officers at Katyn by Stalin's Soviet troops which the Commies tried to
>>blame this on their socialist cousins, Hitler's Nazis.

>>The 1 million Armenians massacred by the Turks is also a holocaust that
>>should be commemorated. Then there is the tens of millions of Chinese
>>murdered by Mao in his "Great Leap Forward" and "Cultural Revolution".

>>The genocides by Pol Pot in Cambodia and Mengistu in Ethiopia should
>>also be remembered. And let us not forget the horrible genocide in
>>Ruwanda in the the 1990s in which over 900,000 perished.

>>The fact is that during the 20th century more than 100 million people
>>were murdered by socialists (Commies, Nazis). The six million Jews
>>killed by the Nazis and Communists during WW II are only a fraction
>>(less than 10%) of the total number of victims of the bloodiest century
>>in world history.

>>Notice that disgusting dying AIDS-spreader pervert Ken McVay, refuses to
>>discuss the SUBJECT of the article, because his JEW masters do not
>>want all the sheeple in Canada to start to THINK!!

>>None of the other groups of victims in Canada,or in Europe have received the 
>>same treatment, just the cursed JEWS!!

>>The Acadians of Canada did not get similar treatment from the Jew-controlled
>>government.
>>All the aboriginals murdered by the whites in Canada and USA, and Australia,
>>get no such treatment.
>>All the Ukrainians kept in concentration camps IN CANADA got no such
>>recognition, let alone all the many millions killed by the
>>JEW-controlled Soviets!!
>>There are many groups of people in Canada, and Australia, New Zealand, and 
>>Europe, who are fed up with the special treatment given to those they blame for having 
>>CHRIST killed!!


>>LisaMcVay@wowmail.com (LisaMcVay) wrote in message 
>>news:<9679f676.0311291332.73304b41@posting.google.com>...
>>> How can it be hateful, to complain legitimately about the preferential
>>> treatment given one disgusting group of creatures?

>>> For 2000 years people worldwide have had to suffer at the hands of
>>> those who had Christ murdered, because He exposed their scandalous
>>> conduct in the Jew temples.

>>> Now, Canadians must continue paying for a special holiday, just to
>>> commemmorate the HOLOHOAX!!

>>> No consideration is given to the more than 100 MILLIONS KILLED BY ZHID
>>> COMMUNISM!!


>>Now that normal people have celebrated the real Remembrance Day,
>>supposedly covering all victims of all wars, we can now wonder why
>>should there be another costly day, just for the cursed ZHIDS!!

>>Why should Canadians have to pay each year, and celebrate
>>HOLOHOAX Day, just for the nuisance ZHIDS? Is it true that
>>the filthy ZHIDS, like the BRONFMANs, control Canada?
>>Why should Canadian businesses have to pay for another
>>worthless statutory holiday, and pay staff for NOT WORKING,
>>just to satisfy some ZHIDS?

>>We already have Remembrance Day, supposedly to remember ALL
>>who died in ALL WARS.

>>We do not celebrate the HOLOCAUST of the Armenians by the Turks.
>>We do not celebrate the NANKING massacre of the Chinese by Japan.
>>We do not celebrate the genocide of German POWs in concentration
>>camps by the Allies in 1945-6.

>>Canada doesn't even celebrate the Ukrainian HOLOCAUST/FAMINE murders
>>of the tens of millions in the 1930's.
>>Canada does not celebrate the 100 millions killed by the ZHID Soviets before 
>>and during WW2.
>>Canada does not celebrate the tens of thousands of innocent Palestinians 
>>murdered by the Israeli occupation forces.Have you forgotten Sabra and Shatilla?

>>Canada doesn't celebrate the tens of thousands of natives it killed, so why the 
>>ZHIDS?
>>Australia does not celebrate all the abos killed since the British occupied 
>>Australia.

>>So why should we have a ZHID DAY?!!
>>Is it true that the BRONFMAN ZHIDS - who cheated the Canadian Tax Department
>>of unpaid $1,500 MILLIONS in taxes - do control the Canadian Government?
>>The gutless politicians who approved this discrimination should be  exterminated!!

>>Complain to your MPs, and let them know, you are fed up with ZHID control of 
>>Canada, Australia,or wherever you live!!

>>Why should sovereign countries in Europe have to kowtow to the disgusting 
>>Christkiller ZHIDS,
>>and have a special day, just for them, when they have no such special day for 
>>those of their own people who were killed by, or because of the ZHIDS?


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
work:(780)492-0473


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.


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Now the Legion are complaining because an international group of PEACE
activists are sel;ling white poppies.

The Legion feels that they, and the red poppies, should be the only group
making money.

Why did the Legion not complain about the ZYD HOLOHOAX Day when the Liberals
had it, at taxpayer expense?


On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 17:31:31 GMT, ProBonoPublico
 wrote:

>It seems that the government forgot to schedule a national HOLOHOAX Day for
>the ZHIDS April 19 or 20 this year,with all the scandals involving the crooked
>Lieberals, !!
>
>
>On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 11:52:57 -0700, Felix Dzerzhinsky 
>wrote:
>
>Header asks a very relevant question, especially now that there are at least
>52 well-documented cases of ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS, 
>not forgetting the notorious KASTNER  CASE!!
>
>Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is exposed as a Nazi GESTAPO
>COLLABORATOR!!
>
>Why a special day, paid by taxpayers, just for the Christkiller ZHIDS?
>
>
>>On 1 Feb 2005 03:38:19 -0000, Hans Wapnigg  wrote:
>>>From: Nemo 
>>>Newsgroups: can.politics,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.democrats.d,alt.politics.british,aus.politics
>>>Subject: Holocaust Memorial Day Should Include Victims Of  All Holocausts Of 20th Century--Not Just Jews
>>>Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 05:42:23 MST (pd7tw1no)
>
>>>This day of commiseration should not be limited only to the victims of
>>>the Jewish Holocaust perpetrated by European socialists (Nazis and
>>>Commies) and their sympathizers during World War II.
>
>>>It should be in sympathy for the tens of millions of victims of
>>>Lenin and Stalin in the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe. For example,
>>>the massacre of the Kulaks in Ukraine and Russia. The massacre of Polish
>>>officers at Katyn by Stalin's Soviet troops which the Commies tried to
>>>blame this on their socialist cousins, Hitler's Nazis.
>
>>>The 1 million Armenians massacred by the Turks is also a holocaust that
>>>should be commemorated. Then there is the tens of millions of Chinese
>>>murdered by Mao in his "Great Leap Forward" and "Cultural Revolution".
>
>>>The genocides by Pol Pot in Cambodia and Mengistu in Ethiopia should
>>>also be remembered. And let us not forget the horrible genocide in
>>>Ruwanda in the the 1990s in which over 900,000 perished.
>
>>>The fact is that during the 20th century more than 100 million people
>>>were murdered by socialists (Commies, Nazis). The six million Jews
>>>killed by the Nazis and Communists during WW II are only a fraction
>>>(less than 10%) of the total number of victims of the bloodiest century
>>>in world history.
>
>>>Notice that disgusting dying AIDS-spreader pervert Ken McVay, refuses to
>>>discuss the SUBJECT of the article, because his JEW masters do not
>>>want all the sheeple in Canada to start to THINK!!
>
>>>None of the other groups of victims in Canada,or in Europe have received the 
>>>same treatment, just the cursed JEWS!!
>
>>>The Acadians of Canada did not get similar treatment from the Jew-controlled
>>>government.
>>>All the aboriginals murdered by the whites in Canada and USA, and Australia,
>>>get no such treatment.
>>>All the Ukrainians kept in concentration camps IN CANADA got no such
>>>recognition, let alone all the many millions killed by the
>>>JEW-controlled Soviets!!
>>>There are many groups of people in Canada, and Australia, New Zealand, and 
>>>Europe, who are fed up with the special treatment given to those they blame for having 
>>>CHRIST killed!!
>
>
>>>LisaMcVay@wowmail.com (LisaMcVay) wrote in message 
>>>news:<9679f676.0311291332.73304b41@posting.google.com>...
>>>> How can it be hateful, to complain legitimately about the preferential
>>>> treatment given one disgusting group of creatures?
>
>>>> For 2000 years people worldwide have had to suffer at the hands of
>>>> those who had Christ murdered, because He exposed their scandalous
>>>> conduct in the Jew temples.
>
>>>> Now, Canadians must continue paying for a special holiday, just to
>>>> commemmorate the HOLOHOAX!!
>
>>>> No consideration is given to the more than 100 MILLIONS KILLED BY ZHID
>>>> COMMUNISM!!
>
>
>>>Now that normal people have celebrated the real Remembrance Day,
>>>supposedly covering all victims of all wars, we can now wonder why
>>>should there be another costly day, just for the cursed ZHIDS!!
>
>>>Why should Canadians have to pay each year, and celebrate
>>>HOLOHOAX Day, just for the nuisance ZHIDS? Is it true that
>>>the filthy ZHIDS, like the BRONFMANs, control Canada?
>>>Why should Canadian businesses have to pay for another
>>>worthless statutory holiday, and pay staff for NOT WORKING,
>>>just to satisfy some ZHIDS?
>
>>>We already have Remembrance Day, supposedly to remember ALL
>>>who died in ALL WARS.
>
>>>We do not celebrate the HOLOCAUST of the Armenians by the Turks.
>>>We do not celebrate the NANKING massacre of the Chinese by Japan.
>>>We do not celebrate the genocide of German POWs in concentration
>>>camps by the Allies in 1945-6.
>
>>>Canada doesn't even celebrate the Ukrainian HOLOCAUST/FAMINE murders
>>>of the tens of millions in the 1930's.
>>>Canada does not celebrate the 100 millions killed by the ZHID Soviets before 
>>>and during WW2.
>>>Canada does not celebrate the tens of thousands of innocent Palestinians 
>>>murdered by the Israeli occupation forces.Have you forgotten Sabra and Shatilla?
>
>>>Canada doesn't celebrate the tens of thousands of natives it killed, so why the 
>>>ZHIDS?
>>>Australia does not celebrate all the abos killed since the British occupied 
>>>Australia.
>
>>>So why should we have a ZHID DAY?!!
>>>Is it true that the BRONFMAN ZHIDS - who cheated the Canadian Tax Department
>>>of unpaid $1,500 MILLIONS in taxes - do control the Canadian Government?
>>>The gutless politicians who approved this discrimination should be  exterminated!!
>
>>>Complain to your MPs, and let them know, you are fed up with ZHID control of 
>>>Canada, Australia,or wherever you live!!
>
>>>Why should sovereign countries in Europe have to kowtow to the disgusting 
>>>Christkiller ZHIDS,
>>>and have a special day, just for them, when they have no such special day for 
>>>those of their own people who were killed by, or because of the ZHIDS?
>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
>is a revolutionary act." 
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages. 
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant
>
>
>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>office: VISIT at:
>#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>or call: 1-250-616-9431
>
>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
>called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
>should give an indication as to the why.
>
>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>
>Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked"?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>
>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
>to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>
>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late nights.
>
>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
>send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>work:(780)492-0473
>
>
>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com
>
>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>IHR - www.ihr.org
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
>
>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>
>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>
>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.



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It seems that the government forgot to schedule a national HOLOHOAX Day for
the ZHIDS April 19 or 20 this year,with all the scandals involving the crooked
Lieberals, !!


On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 11:52:57 -0700, Felix Dzerzhinsky 
wrote:

Header asks a very relevant question, especially now that there are at least
52 well-documented cases of ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS, 
not forgetting the notorious KASTNER  CASE!!

Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is exposed as a Nazi GESTAPO
COLLABORATOR!!

Why a special day, paid by taxpayers, just for the Christkiller ZHIDS?


>On 1 Feb 2005 03:38:19 -0000, Hans Wapnigg  wrote:
>>From: Nemo 
>>Newsgroups: can.politics,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.democrats.d,alt.politics.british,aus.politics
>>Subject: Holocaust Memorial Day Should Include Victims Of  All Holocausts Of 20th Century--Not Just Jews
>>Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 05:42:23 MST (pd7tw1no)

>>This day of commiseration should not be limited only to the victims of
>>the Jewish Holocaust perpetrated by European socialists (Nazis and
>>Commies) and their sympathizers during World War II.

>>It should be in sympathy for the tens of millions of victims of
>>Lenin and Stalin in the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe. For example,
>>the massacre of the Kulaks in Ukraine and Russia. The massacre of Polish
>>officers at Katyn by Stalin's Soviet troops which the Commies tried to
>>blame this on their socialist cousins, Hitler's Nazis.

>>The 1 million Armenians massacred by the Turks is also a holocaust that
>>should be commemorated. Then there is the tens of millions of Chinese
>>murdered by Mao in his "Great Leap Forward" and "Cultural Revolution".

>>The genocides by Pol Pot in Cambodia and Mengistu in Ethiopia should
>>also be remembered. And let us not forget the horrible genocide in
>>Ruwanda in the the 1990s in which over 900,000 perished.

>>The fact is that during the 20th century more than 100 million people
>>were murdered by socialists (Commies, Nazis). The six million Jews
>>killed by the Nazis and Communists during WW II are only a fraction
>>(less than 10%) of the total number of victims of the bloodiest century
>>in world history.

>>Notice that disgusting dying AIDS-spreader pervert Ken McVay, refuses to
>>discuss the SUBJECT of the article, because his JEW masters do not
>>want all the sheeple in Canada to start to THINK!!

>>None of the other groups of victims in Canada,or in Europe have received the 
>>same treatment, just the cursed JEWS!!

>>The Acadians of Canada did not get similar treatment from the Jew-controlled
>>government.
>>All the aboriginals murdered by the whites in Canada and USA, and Australia,
>>get no such treatment.
>>All the Ukrainians kept in concentration camps IN CANADA got no such
>>recognition, let alone all the many millions killed by the
>>JEW-controlled Soviets!!
>>There are many groups of people in Canada, and Australia, New Zealand, and 
>>Europe, who are fed up with the special treatment given to those they blame for having 
>>CHRIST killed!!


>>LisaMcVay@wowmail.com (LisaMcVay) wrote in message 
>>news:<9679f676.0311291332.73304b41@posting.google.com>...
>>> How can it be hateful, to complain legitimately about the preferential
>>> treatment given one disgusting group of creatures?

>>> For 2000 years people worldwide have had to suffer at the hands of
>>> those who had Christ murdered, because He exposed their scandalous
>>> conduct in the Jew temples.

>>> Now, Canadians must continue paying for a special holiday, just to
>>> commemmorate the HOLOHOAX!!

>>> No consideration is given to the more than 100 MILLIONS KILLED BY ZHID
>>> COMMUNISM!!


>>Now that normal people have celebrated the real Remembrance Day,
>>supposedly covering all victims of all wars, we can now wonder why
>>should there be another costly day, just for the cursed ZHIDS!!

>>Why should Canadians have to pay each year, and celebrate
>>HOLOHOAX Day, just for the nuisance ZHIDS? Is it true that
>>the filthy ZHIDS, like the BRONFMANs, control Canada?
>>Why should Canadian businesses have to pay for another
>>worthless statutory holiday, and pay staff for NOT WORKING,
>>just to satisfy some ZHIDS?

>>We already have Remembrance Day, supposedly to remember ALL
>>who died in ALL WARS.

>>We do not celebrate the HOLOCAUST of the Armenians by the Turks.
>>We do not celebrate the NANKING massacre of the Chinese by Japan.
>>We do not celebrate the genocide of German POWs in concentration
>>camps by the Allies in 1945-6.

>>Canada doesn't even celebrate the Ukrainian HOLOCAUST/FAMINE murders
>>of the tens of millions in the 1930's.
>>Canada does not celebrate the 100 millions killed by the ZHID Soviets before 
>>and during WW2.
>>Canada does not celebrate the tens of thousands of innocent Palestinians 
>>murdered by the Israeli occupation forces.Have you forgotten Sabra and Shatilla?

>>Canada doesn't celebrate the tens of thousands of natives it killed, so why the 
>>ZHIDS?
>>Australia does not celebrate all the abos killed since the British occupied 
>>Australia.

>>So why should we have a ZHID DAY?!!
>>Is it true that the BRONFMAN ZHIDS - who cheated the Canadian Tax Department
>>of unpaid $1,500 MILLIONS in taxes - do control the Canadian Government?
>>The gutless politicians who approved this discrimination should be  exterminated!!

>>Complain to your MPs, and let them know, you are fed up with ZHID control of 
>>Canada, Australia,or wherever you live!!

>>Why should sovereign countries in Europe have to kowtow to the disgusting 
>>Christkiller ZHIDS,
>>and have a special day, just for them, when they have no such special day for 
>>those of their own people who were killed by, or because of the ZHIDS?


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
work:(780)492-0473


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.


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The white poppies have been copyrighted and patented since 1933, so the legion
can not claim any copyright infringement!!


On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 03:40:34 GMT, Carter  wrote:
>Jeff Stapleton wrote:
>> 
>> "Nomad"  wrote in message 
>> news:a4t4h.5738$WI1.4927@newsfe15.lga...
>>> "ProBonoPublico"  wrote in 
>>> message news:jor3l2pptqmqf5vl69tbp2oul3t9k4m59f@4ax.com...
>>>> Now the Legion are complaining because an international group of PEACE
>>>> activists are sel;ling white poppies.
>>>
>>> ...and so they should.  Any company would complain if their copyright 
>>> was infringed upon.  They're not necessarily complaining about the 
>>> PEACE theme, but the poppy use infringement, regardless of colour.
>> 
>> since when do legions have the copyright on a flower known as a poppy? 
>> cite please!
>
>Since 1948 I believe.  You can do your own research.
>
>Carter



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On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 09:39:05 -0500, FLDENGR ,  in wrote:

>I knew Edmonton was good for nothing and this pretty much sums up why! 
>Congratulations. Glad we left!!

>http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/08112006/3/canada-edmonton-highest-homicide-rate-canada-report.html

And, the news headlines for  Monday 24 July 2006 - ANOTHER 3 MURDERS 
between Thursday and this afternoon!!

The clueless cop thugs have no clues, or arrests of murderers, leading many to
suspect that perhaps some of the murders are being done by fellow cops?


In a banner headline story across page B1 of the Edmonton Journal for 21 July
2006, Statistics Canada reports that Edmonton Canada is now the crime capital
of Canada!

The Edmonton region homicide/murder rate is documented at 4.3 per 100,000
people, compared to only 2.0 for crime-ridden Toronto!!

And, the Edmonton stats do not include bodies found outside the area, from the
notorious Edmonton serial killer of female prostitiutes!

Many believe that these murd3ers are being committed by cops, judges, or
lawyers, and fellow cops refuse to investigate.....
And the city wonders why it is getting such bad international publicity,
mainly caused by the crooked cops, who apparently can not even catch a cold,
let alone the serial murderer, who is suspected by many, to be either a cop,
judge or criminologist.

This may explain why after 107 killings, there has been no arrest?

On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 21:22:04 GMT, Chom Noamsky  wrote:

>The per 100,000 murder rate in Edmonton now at 4.3.  Even more murderous
>than Regina, if you can believe it.  Toronto is 2.0.  In 2005, you were 2.3
>times as likely to become a victim of homicide in Edmonton than Toronto.  

>Someone told me once that conservative governments are tough on criminals.



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On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 00:16:38 GMT, "HelloDolly" 
wrote:
>"FLDENGR"  wrote in message 
>news:M9Wdna-RTOUaoM7YnZ2dnUVZ_h6dnZ2d@storm.ca...
>>I knew Edmonton was good for nothing and this pretty much sums up why! 
>>Congratulations. Glad we left!!

>> http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/08112006/3/canada-edmonton-highest-homicide-rate-canada-report.html
>
>But hey! Our Mayor and Council have voted themselves a 13 percent wage 
>increase 
ACTUALLY IT WILL BE CLOSER TO THIRTY PERCENT PAY HIKE, ALLOWING FOR THE
NON-TAXABLE PORTION, PLUS ALL THE OTHER BENEFITS THEY ADDED TO THEIR BASE
PAY!!


which will make them the BEST PAID in all of Canada. Surely that 
>should show the rest of Canada what good politicans we have in THE CITY OF 
>DEATH.....oops, I mean Champions..... 
>



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It seems that the government forgot to schedule a national HOLOHOAX Day for
the ZHIDS April 19 or 20 this year,with all the scandals involving the crooked
Lieberals, !!


On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 11:52:57 -0700, Felix Dzerzhinsky 
wrote:

Header asks a very relevant question, especially now that there are at least
52 well-documented cases of ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS, 
not forgetting the notorious KASTNER  CASE!!

Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is exposed as a Nazi GESTAPO
COLLABORATOR!!

Why a special day, paid by taxpayers, just for the Christkiller ZHIDS?


>On 1 Feb 2005 03:38:19 -0000, Hans Wapnigg  wrote:
>>From: Nemo 
>>Newsgroups: can.politics,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.democrats.d,alt.politics.british,aus.politics
>>Subject: Holocaust Memorial Day Should Include Victims Of  All Holocausts Of 20th Century--Not Just Jews
>>Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 05:42:23 MST (pd7tw1no)

>>This day of commiseration should not be limited only to the victims of
>>the Jewish Holocaust perpetrated by European socialists (Nazis and
>>Commies) and their sympathizers during World War II.

>>It should be in sympathy for the tens of millions of victims of
>>Lenin and Stalin in the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe. For example,
>>the massacre of the Kulaks in Ukraine and Russia. The massacre of Polish
>>officers at Katyn by Stalin's Soviet troops which the Commies tried to
>>blame this on their socialist cousins, Hitler's Nazis.

>>The 1 million Armenians massacred by the Turks is also a holocaust that
>>should be commemorated. Then there is the tens of millions of Chinese
>>murdered by Mao in his "Great Leap Forward" and "Cultural Revolution".

>>The genocides by Pol Pot in Cambodia and Mengistu in Ethiopia should
>>also be remembered. And let us not forget the horrible genocide in
>>Ruwanda in the the 1990s in which over 900,000 perished.

>>The fact is that during the 20th century more than 100 million people
>>were murdered by socialists (Commies, Nazis). The six million Jews
>>killed by the Nazis and Communists during WW II are only a fraction
>>(less than 10%) of the total number of victims of the bloodiest century
>>in world history.

>>Notice that disgusting dying AIDS-spreader pervert Ken McVay, refuses to
>>discuss the SUBJECT of the article, because his JEW masters do not
>>want all the sheeple in Canada to start to THINK!!

>>None of the other groups of victims in Canada,or in Europe have received the 
>>same treatment, just the cursed JEWS!!

>>The Acadians of Canada did not get similar treatment from the Jew-controlled
>>government.
>>All the aboriginals murdered by the whites in Canada and USA, and Australia,
>>get no such treatment.
>>All the Ukrainians kept in concentration camps IN CANADA got no such
>>recognition, let alone all the many millions killed by the
>>JEW-controlled Soviets!!
>>There are many groups of people in Canada, and Australia, New Zealand, and 
>>Europe, who are fed up with the special treatment given to those they blame for having 
>>CHRIST killed!!


>>LisaMcVay@wowmail.com (LisaMcVay) wrote in message 
>>news:<9679f676.0311291332.73304b41@posting.google.com>...
>>> How can it be hateful, to complain legitimately about the preferential
>>> treatment given one disgusting group of creatures?

>>> For 2000 years people worldwide have had to suffer at the hands of
>>> those who had Christ murdered, because He exposed their scandalous
>>> conduct in the Jew temples.

>>> Now, Canadians must continue paying for a special holiday, just to
>>> commemmorate the HOLOHOAX!!

>>> No consideration is given to the more than 100 MILLIONS KILLED BY ZHID
>>> COMMUNISM!!


>>Now that normal people have celebrated the real Remembrance Day,
>>supposedly covering all victims of all wars, we can now wonder why
>>should there be another costly day, just for the cursed ZHIDS!!

>>Why should Canadians have to pay each year, and celebrate
>>HOLOHOAX Day, just for the nuisance ZHIDS? Is it true that
>>the filthy ZHIDS, like the BRONFMANs, control Canada?
>>Why should Canadian businesses have to pay for another
>>worthless statutory holiday, and pay staff for NOT WORKING,
>>just to satisfy some ZHIDS?

>>We already have Remembrance Day, supposedly to remember ALL
>>who died in ALL WARS.

>>We do not celebrate the HOLOCAUST of the Armenians by the Turks.
>>We do not celebrate the NANKING massacre of the Chinese by Japan.
>>We do not celebrate the genocide of German POWs in concentration
>>camps by the Allies in 1945-6.

>>Canada doesn't even celebrate the Ukrainian HOLOCAUST/FAMINE murders
>>of the tens of millions in the 1930's.
>>Canada does not celebrate the 100 millions killed by the ZHID Soviets before 
>>and during WW2.
>>Canada does not celebrate the tens of thousands of innocent Palestinians 
>>murdered by the Israeli occupation forces.Have you forgotten Sabra and Shatilla?

>>Canada doesn't celebrate the tens of thousands of natives it killed, so why the 
>>ZHIDS?
>>Australia does not celebrate all the abos killed since the British occupied 
>>Australia.

>>So why should we have a ZHID DAY?!!
>>Is it true that the BRONFMAN ZHIDS - who cheated the Canadian Tax Department
>>of unpaid $1,500 MILLIONS in taxes - do control the Canadian Government?
>>The gutless politicians who approved this discrimination should be  exterminated!!

>>Complain to your MPs, and let them know, you are fed up with ZHID control of 
>>Canada, Australia,or wherever you live!!

>>Why should sovereign countries in Europe have to kowtow to the disgusting 
>>Christkiller ZHIDS,
>>and have a special day, just for them, when they have no such special day for 
>>those of their own people who were killed by, or because of the ZHIDS?


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
work:(780)492-0473


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.


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Now the Legion are complaining because an international group of PEACE
activists are sel;ling white poppies.

The Legion feels that they, and the red poppies, should be the only group
making money.

Why did the Legion not complain about the ZYD HOLOHOAX Day when the Liberals
had it, at taxpayer expense?


On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 17:31:31 GMT, ProBonoPublico
 wrote:

It seems that the government forgot to schedule a national HOLOHOAX Day for
the ZHIDS April 19 or 20 this year,with all the scandals involving the crooked
Lieberals, !!

>On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 11:52:57 -0700, Felix Dzerzhinsky 
>wrote:

Header asks a very relevant question, especially now that there are at least
52 well-documented cases of ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS, 
not forgetting the notorious KASTNER  CASE!!

Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is exposed as a Nazi GESTAPO
COLLABORATOR!!

Why a special day, paid by taxpayers, just for the Christkiller ZHIDS?

>>On 1 Feb 2005 03:38:19 -0000, Hans Wapnigg  wrote:
>>>From: Nemo 
>>>Newsgroups: can.politics,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.democrats.d,alt.politics.british,aus.politics
>>>Subject: Holocaust Memorial Day Should Include Victims Of  All Holocausts Of 20th Century--Not Just Jews
>>>Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 05:42:23 MST (pd7tw1no)

>>>This day of commiseration should not be limited only to the victims of
>>>the Jewish Holocaust perpetrated by European socialists (Nazis and
>>>Commies) and their sympathizers during World War II.

>>>It should be in sympathy for the tens of millions of victims of
>>>Lenin and Stalin in the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe. For example,
>>>the massacre of the Kulaks in Ukraine and Russia. The massacre of Polish
>>>officers at Katyn by Stalin's Soviet troops which the Commies tried to
>>>blame this on their socialist cousins, Hitler's Nazis.

>>>The 1 million Armenians massacred by the Turks is also a holocaust that
>>>should be commemorated. Then there is the tens of millions of Chinese
>>>murdered by Mao in his "Great Leap Forward" and "Cultural Revolution".

>>>The genocides by Pol Pot in Cambodia and Mengistu in Ethiopia should
>>>also be remembered. And let us not forget the horrible genocide in
>>>Ruwanda in the the 1990s in which over 900,000 perished.

>>>The fact is that during the 20th century more than 100 million people
>>>were murdered by socialists (Commies, Nazis). The six million Jews
>>>killed by the Nazis and Communists during WW II are only a fraction
>>>(less than 10%) of the total number of victims of the bloodiest century
>>>in world history.

>>>Notice that disgusting dying AIDS-spreader pervert Ken McVay, refuses to
>>>discuss the SUBJECT of the article, because his JEW masters do not
>>>want all the sheeple in Canada to start to THINK!!

>>>None of the other groups of victims in Canada,or in Europe have received the 
>>>same treatment, just the cursed JEWS!!

>>>The Acadians of Canada did not get similar treatment from the Jew-controlled
>>>government.

>>>All the aboriginals murdered by the whites in Canada and USA, and Australia,
>>>get no such treatment.

>>>All the Ukrainians kept in concentration camps IN CANADA got no such
>>>recognition, let alone all the many millions killed by the
>>>JEW-controlled Soviets!!

>>>There are many groups of people in Canada, and Australia, New Zealand, and 
>>>Europe, who are fed up with the special treatment given to those they blame for having 
>>>CHRIST killed!!

>>>LisaMcVay@wowmail.com (LisaMcVay) wrote in message 
>>>news:<9679f676.0311291332.73304b41@posting.google.com>...
>>>> How can it be hateful, to complain legitimately about the preferential
>>>> treatment given one disgusting group of creatures?

>>>> For 2000 years people worldwide have had to suffer at the hands of
>>>> those who had Christ murdered, because He exposed their scandalous
>>>> conduct in the Jew temples.

>>>> Now, Canadians must continue paying for a special holiday, just to
>>>> commemmorate the HOLOHOAX!!

>>>> No consideration is given to the more than 100 MILLIONS KILLED BY ZHID
>>>> COMMUNISM!!


>>>Now that normal people have celebrated the real Remembrance Day,
>>>supposedly covering all victims of all wars, we can now wonder why
>>>should there be another costly day, just for the cursed ZHIDS!!

>>>Why should Canadians have to pay each year, and celebrate
>>>HOLOHOAX Day, just for the nuisance ZHIDS? Is it true that
>>>the filthy ZHIDS, like the BRONFMANs, control Canada?
>>>Why should Canadian businesses have to pay for another
>>>worthless statutory holiday, and pay staff for NOT WORKING,
>>>just to satisfy some ZHIDS?

>>>We already have Remembrance Day, supposedly to remember ALL
>>>who died in ALL WARS.

>>>We do not celebrate the HOLOCAUST of the Armenians by the Turks.

>>>We do not celebrate the NANKING massacre of the Chinese by Japan.

>>>We do not celebrate the genocide of German POWs in concentration
>>>camps by the Allies in 1945-6.

>>>Canada doesn't even celebrate the Ukrainian HOLOCAUST/FAMINE murders
>>>of the tens of millions in the 1930's.

>>>Canada does not celebrate the 100 millions killed by the ZHID Soviets before 
>>>and during WW2.

>>>Canada does not celebrate the tens of thousands of innocent Palestinians 
>>>murdered by the Israeli occupation forces.Have you forgotten Sabra and Shatilla?

>>>Canada doesn't celebrate the tens of thousands of natives it killed, so why the 
>>>ZHIDS?
>>>Australia does not celebrate all the abos killed since the British occupied 
>>>Australia.

>>>So why should we have a ZHID DAY?!!
>>>Is it true that the BRONFMAN ZHIDS - who cheated the Canadian Tax Department
>>>of unpaid $1,500 MILLIONS in taxes - do control the Canadian Government?
>>>The gutless politicians who approved this discrimination should be  exterminated!!

>>>Complain to your MPs, and let them know, you are fed up with ZHID control of 
>>>Canada, Australia,or wherever you live!!

>>>Why should sovereign countries in Europe have to kowtow to the disgusting 
>>>Christkiller ZHIDS,
>>>and have a special day, just for them, when they have no such special day for 
>>>those of their own people who were killed by, or because of the ZHIDS?


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
-John Bryant


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.






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On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 10:33:58 GMT, "Sharx35"  wrote:
Evidence of crooked city tax assessors will again be proven at ARB Hearing,
Monday 18 September.

No wonder Mel Forseth, Nick Gorda, Mike Chibuk, and Frank Oesterreicher do not
want the public reminded, that for 8 years they allowed a lawyer's house to be
DELIBERATELY UNDER-ASSESSED BY HALF A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR, 
FOR 8 YEARS!!

One must wonder, who is on the take, to allow such irregularity for so long?

>Chief Instigator wrote:
>> Next installment and exposure of city tax department irregularities
>> was in  OPEN COURT, at the MGB Hearing,  March 27.

>> Again, was exposed for all to see, the evidence proving the City
>> allowed the lawyer to be underassessed  for his property at 13723 -
>> 93 St., by HALF A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR, for 8 years.

>Is that commercially zoned property, occupied by a residence?

It is a 2 story building, zoned DC5, with lawyer offices on main floor, and
rental apartments on upper floor.

HALF A MILLION DOLLARS each year - for 8 years!
His own papers filed declared the value to be $600,000, while his
friends in the city only assessed for $149,500!!

>> In retaliation, the city assessors incresed the assessment of the man
>> who exposed their graft by 4 TIMES THAT OF HIS NEIGHBOURS!!


>> Yes, the city website is operational in May and June, which allowed
>> some of us the opportunity to get the PROOF, which will be used in
>> the MGB city tax appeals, to PROVE GROSS OR CRIMINAL IRREGULARITIES
>> by the city tax staffers!

>> One must wonder, for whom is Merle Foresth working, since he seems to
>> not care about massive irregularities!!

>> It is now time, to not only FIRE those city employees involved in
>> this massive under-assessment for one of their buddies, but they
>> should also be PROSECUTED for their involvement in this massive FRAUD
>> on the city taxpayers!!

>> How many other friends of city tax department staff are also, still,
>> getting massive under-assessments, worth tens of thousands of dollars
>> per crook, apart from the well-known city lawyer exposed?

>> Time to clean house at city hall, and not just leave it up to
>> Grosvenor to take these crooks to court!!


>> From: arielv2@37.com the filthy crook, wanting everyone to know about
>> how corrupt is the cesspool called Deadmonton, wrote:
>> Newsgroups: edm.general,edm.politics
>> Subject: Re: APPEAL YOUR TAXES!!GRAFT,CORRUPTION in City Tax
>> Appeal-Lawyer Finally Got Taxes Quadrupled!! WHY BE JEWED?
>> Date: 1 Aug 2005 13:21:10 -0700

>> Why do you call our beuatiful city "deadmonton", ?
>> if you don't like it here why are you doing here? why don't you go
>> back to the rat hole you came from (england or whatever hellhole you're
>> from). stop polluting our charming city with your stinking existance. a
>> bullet thru your old and rotten head will be a great solution to your not
>> liking our city. drop dead you fucking nazi!


>> On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 09:12:18 -0600, George
>>  wrote:

>>> If your city tax assessment has increased more than the 2.4%
>>> inflation certified by StatsCan, then perhaps you also are a victim
>>> of the crooks running Deadmonton?!!

>>> If you feel you are being overcharged, then do what you are entitled
>>> to do - FILE AN APPEAL!!

>>> The odds are in your favour, since more than 80% of appeals against
>>> the City, win!!

>>> Checking the website for this year's assessments, it seems that the
>>> city of Edmonton finally obeyed the ARB,regarding the dramatically
>>> UNDERASSESSED property owned by a city liar/lawyer!.
>>> The value now is $651,000, up from the ridiculous $149,500!!!

>>> If not CORRUPTION, then at least favouritism, when property
>>> UNDER-ASSESSED BY HALF MILLION DOLLARS!!

>>> Rumour has it that the city tax assessor responsible, is no longer
>>> employed by the city??
>>> Why should a private citizen have to take the City to Court, just to
>>> force the city to do a proper job, for which some slimeball is
>>> getting overpaid?


>>> From: heinrichhimmelfarb@xmail.net (HeinrichHimmelfarb)
>>> Newsgroups:
>>> edm.general,edm.politics,ab.general,ab.politics,can.general Subject:
>>> Re: Graft,Corruption Claimed in City Tax Appeal!! LAWYER TO GET
>>> TAXES QUADRUPLED!!
>>> Date: 2 Oct 2004 08:46:23 -0700

>>> It seems that even a lawyer will finally get his comeuppance.
>>> The ARB on Monday ordered the city tax assessment department to
>>> finally correct the improper assessment and bring the value up to
>>> what it should be.

>>> This means that in one year, the assessment had to jump from the
>>> massive under-assessment of $149,500 to at least $600,000 and
>>> probably $608,000!!!

>>> Even a damned lawyer can finally get what he deserves,when someone
>>> has the guts to force the issue into a court.

>>> How many other massive UNDER-ASSESSMENTS, FOR FRIENDS OF THE CITY
>>> MANAGERS ARE OUT THERE?


>>> heinrichhimmelfarb@xmail.net (HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote in message
>>> news:<8e4c980f.0409260720.3cd39d0f@posting.google.com>...
>>>> Regarding the article below,the City is now declining to appear
>>>> before the ARB, tomorrow at 3:30 in the afternoon!!

>>>> It seems that they do not want to name the city tax assessor
>>>> responsible for the more than $200,00 REDUCTION in the property tax
>>>> assessment of the city liar/lawyer!!

>>>> In their documents sent to the complainant, the City DOES CONFIRM
>>>> THE CORRECT VALUE AT MORE THAN $608,000!!

>>>> The tax appeal Court/ARB will be asked whether this constitutes
>>>> CORRUPTION, or/and CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE!!!

>>>> Sharx, and others annoyed with city mismanagement, care to comment?


>>>> heinrichhimmelfarb@xmail.net (HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote in message
>>>> news:<8e4c980f.0408050922.417b9108@posting.google.com>...
>>>>> City have in fact confirmed,and helped correct previous assessment
>>>>> value.
>>>>> It was actually $149,500, while the owners declared value,in
>>>>> writing, was $600,000!!

>>>>> No explanation from the cretins in the Tax Assessment section as to
>>>>> why they gave their buddy such a massive UNDER-ASSESSMENT!!
>>>>> This while they gouge small homeowners and apartment owners with
>>>>> massive tax hikes!!

>>>>> No wonder the number of appeals this year is allegedly double.
>>>>> Perhaps the citizens are finally getting mad enough for a tax
>>>>> revolt.

>>>>>> Apparently THIS scandal is but the tip of the iceberg, regarding
>>>>>> irregularities involving the city tax department.

>>>>>> Another case,coming up in court next week, relates to an
>>>>>> out-of-court settlement the city had to make un connection with the illegal
>>>>>> closure of the southbound access road for Calgary Trail at Ellerslie Road.
>>>>>> One of the property owners, incensed at his astronomical tax
>>>>>> assessment hike this year, is presenting to the tax appeal court, the evidence
>>>>>> that business plummeted, plus that the city had to pay one of the
>>>>>> businesses!!

>>>>>> The right hand did not know what the left did.....


>>>>>> starwars  wrote in message
>>>>>> news:...
>>>>>>> Can someone explain how a well-known liar/lawyer is able to get a
>>>>>>> massive UNDER-ASSESSMENT on his palatial property,which is
>>>>>>> knowingly under-assessed by more than $200,000.00!!

>>>>>>> This property, which the lawyer and spouse have declared to be
>>>>>>> worth at least $600,000 (yes six hundred thousands because it is
>>>>>>> huge,has law offices on ground floor plus apartments on second
>>>>>>> floor was assessed last year for less than a quarter of
>>>>>>> value,for only $148,000!!

>>>>>>> After the city tax department documented in city tax appeal
>>>>>>> Court last year, evidence of the real value of $600,000. now
>>>>>>> this year it is assessed for $393,500 - still more than $200,000
>>>>>>> UNDER-ASSESSED!!

>>>>>>> At the same time, neighbours are being OVER-ASSESSED by 20%!!

>>>>>>> Naturally, cynics wonder, who is on the take in the City?



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On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 18:36:38 GMT, SamIAm  wrote:

>I see there is an Ad out for a new City Assessor here in Edmonton!

>What happened to the old one?

Did he get FIRED, because of the CROOKED ASSESSMENTS, such as for the lawyer's
building at 13723 - 93 St.?

This is the one deliberately UNDERASSESSED for 8 years, at $149,500, when the
owner had filed a value of over $600,000!!

Grosvenor took the city to court over this corruption!!



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On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 18:36:38 GMT, SamIAm  wrote:

>I see there is an Ad out for a new City Assessor here in Edmonton!

>What happened to the old one?

Did he get FIRED, because of the CROOKED ASSESSMENTS, such as for the lawyer's
building at 13723 - 93 St.?

This is the one deliberately UNDERASSESSED for 8 years, at $149,500, when the
owner had filed a value of over $600,000!!

Grosvenor took the city to court over this corruption!!

No wonder Mel Forseth, Nick Gorda, Mike Chibuk, and Frank Oesterreicher do not
want the public reminded, that for 8 years they allowed a lawyer's house to be
DELIBERATELY UNDER-ASSESSED BY HALF A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR, 
FOR 8 YEARS!!

One must wonder, who is on the take, to allow such irregularity for so long?

>Chief Instigator wrote:
>> Next installment and exposure of city tax department irregularities
>> was in  OPEN COURT, at the MGB Hearing,  March 27.

>> Again, was exposed for all to see, the evidence proving the City
>> allowed the lawyer to be underassessed  for his property at 13723 -
>> 93 St., by HALF A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR, for 8 years.

>Is that commercially zoned property, occupied by a residence?

It is a 2 story building, zoned DC5, with lawyer offices on main floor, and
rental apartments on upper floor.

HALF A MILLION DOLLARS each year - for 8 years!
His own papers filed declared the value to be $600,000, while his
friends in the city only assessed for $149,500!!

>> In retaliation, the city assessors incresed the assessment of the man
>> who exposed their graft by 4 TIMES THAT OF HIS NEIGHBOURS!!


>> Yes, the city website is operational in May and June, which allowed
>> some of us the opportunity to get the PROOF, which will be used in
>> the MGB city tax appeals, to PROVE GROSS OR CRIMINAL IRREGULARITIES
>> by the city tax staffers!

>> One must wonder, for whom is Merle Foresth working, since he seems to
>> not care about massive irregularities!!

>> It is now time, to not only FIRE those city employees involved in
>> this massive under-assessment for one of their buddies, but they
>> should also be PROSECUTED for their involvement in this massive FRAUD
>> on the city taxpayers!!

>> How many other friends of city tax department staff are also, still,
>> getting massive under-assessments, worth tens of thousands of dollars
>> per crook, apart from the well-known city lawyer exposed?

>> Time to clean house at city hall, and not just leave it up to
>> Grosvenor to take these crooks to court!!


>> From: arielv2@37.com the filthy crook, wanting everyone to know about
>> how corrupt is the cesspool called Deadmonton, wrote:
>> Newsgroups: edm.general,edm.politics
>> Subject: Re: APPEAL YOUR TAXES!!GRAFT,CORRUPTION in City Tax
>> Appeal-Lawyer Finally Got Taxes Quadrupled!! WHY BE JEWED?
>> Date: 1 Aug 2005 13:21:10 -0700

>> Why do you call our beuatiful city "deadmonton", ?
>> if you don't like it here why are you doing here? why don't you go
>> back to the rat hole you came from (england or whatever hellhole you're
>> from). stop polluting our charming city with your stinking existance. a
>> bullet thru your old and rotten head will be a great solution to your not
>> liking our city. drop dead you fucking nazi!


>> On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 09:12:18 -0600, George
>>  wrote:

>>> If your city tax assessment has increased more than the 2.4%
>>> inflation certified by StatsCan, then perhaps you also are a victim
>>> of the crooks running Deadmonton?!!

>>> If you feel you are being overcharged, then do what you are entitled
>>> to do - FILE AN APPEAL!!

>>> The odds are in your favour, since more than 80% of appeals against
>>> the City, win!!

>>> Checking the website for this year's assessments, it seems that the
>>> city of Edmonton finally obeyed the ARB,regarding the dramatically
>>> UNDERASSESSED property owned by a city liar/lawyer!.
>>> The value now is $651,000, up from the ridiculous $149,500!!!

>>> If not CORRUPTION, then at least favouritism, when property
>>> UNDER-ASSESSED BY HALF MILLION DOLLARS!!

>>> Rumour has it that the city tax assessor responsible, is no longer
>>> employed by the city??
>>> Why should a private citizen have to take the City to Court, just to
>>> force the city to do a proper job, for which some slimeball is
>>> getting overpaid?


>>> From: heinrichhimmelfarb@xmail.net (HeinrichHimmelfarb)
>>> Newsgroups:
>>> edm.general,edm.politics,ab.general,ab.politics,can.general Subject:
>>> Re: Graft,Corruption Claimed in City Tax Appeal!! LAWYER TO GET
>>> TAXES QUADRUPLED!!
>>> Date: 2 Oct 2004 08:46:23 -0700

>>> It seems that even a lawyer will finally get his comeuppance.
>>> The ARB on Monday ordered the city tax assessment department to
>>> finally correct the improper assessment and bring the value up to
>>> what it should be.

>>> This means that in one year, the assessment had to jump from the
>>> massive under-assessment of $149,500 to at least $600,000 and
>>> probably $608,000!!!

>>> Even a damned lawyer can finally get what he deserves,when someone
>>> has the guts to force the issue into a court.

>>> How many other massive UNDER-ASSESSMENTS, FOR FRIENDS OF THE CITY
>>> MANAGERS ARE OUT THERE?


>>> heinrichhimmelfarb@xmail.net (HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote in message
>>> news:<8e4c980f.0409260720.3cd39d0f@posting.google.com>...
>>>> Regarding the article below,the City is now declining to appear
>>>> before the ARB, tomorrow at 3:30 in the afternoon!!

>>>> It seems that they do not want to name the city tax assessor
>>>> responsible for the more than $200,00 REDUCTION in the property tax
>>>> assessment of the city liar/lawyer!!

>>>> In their documents sent to the complainant, the City DOES CONFIRM
>>>> THE CORRECT VALUE AT MORE THAN $608,000!!

>>>> The tax appeal Court/ARB will be asked whether this constitutes
>>>> CORRUPTION, or/and CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE!!!

>>>> Sharx, and others annoyed with city mismanagement, care to comment?


>>>> heinrichhimmelfarb@xmail.net (HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote in message
>>>> news:<8e4c980f.0408050922.417b9108@posting.google.com>...
>>>>> City have in fact confirmed,and helped correct previous assessment
>>>>> value.
>>>>> It was actually $149,500, while the owners declared value,in
>>>>> writing, was $600,000!!

>>>>> No explanation from the cretins in the Tax Assessment section as to
>>>>> why they gave their buddy such a massive UNDER-ASSESSMENT!!
>>>>> This while they gouge small homeowners and apartment owners with
>>>>> massive tax hikes!!

>>>>> No wonder the number of appeals this year is allegedly double.
>>>>> Perhaps the citizens are finally getting mad enough for a tax
>>>>> revolt.

>>>>>> Apparently THIS scandal is but the tip of the iceberg, regarding
>>>>>> irregularities involving the city tax department.

>>>>>> Another case,coming up in court next week, relates to an
>>>>>> out-of-court settlement the city had to make un connection with the illegal
>>>>>> closure of the southbound access road for Calgary Trail at Ellerslie Road.
>>>>>> One of the property owners, incensed at his astronomical tax
>>>>>> assessment hike this year, is presenting to the tax appeal court, the evidence
>>>>>> that business plummeted, plus that the city had to pay one of the
>>>>>> businesses!!

>>>>>> The right hand did not know what the left did.....


>>>>>> starwars  wrote in message
>>>>>> news:...
>>>>>>> Can someone explain how a well-known liar/lawyer is able to get a
>>>>>>> massive UNDER-ASSESSMENT on his palatial property,which is
>>>>>>> knowingly under-assessed by more than $200,000.00!!

>>>>>>> This property, which the lawyer and spouse have declared to be
>>>>>>> worth at least $600,000 (yes six hundred thousands because it is
>>>>>>> huge,has law offices on ground floor plus apartments on second
>>>>>>> floor was assessed last year for less than a quarter of
>>>>>>> value,for only $148,000!!

>>>>>>> After the city tax department documented in city tax appeal
>>>>>>> Court last year, evidence of the real value of $600,000. now
>>>>>>> this year it is assessed for $393,500 - still more than $200,000
>>>>>>> UNDER-ASSESSED!!

>>>>>>> At the same time, neighbours are being OVER-ASSESSED by 20%!!

>>>>>>> Naturally, cynics wonder, who is on the take in the City?




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Even Robert Weldon wants everyone to know about the crooks in the city tax
department, which is why he reposts the header.

On Fri, 26 May 2006 07:56:39 GMT, "sharx35"  wrote:
>"TopPoster."  wrote in message 
>news:Ggydg.230$Dq.236618@news.sisna.com...
>> Sharx the nark

>Well, SOME day, if you save up all your welfare payments, you, too, may 
>become a home owner and concerned about property taxes.

Well said, sharx.

If it wasn't for Grosvenor exposing the HALF MILLION A YEAR DELIBERATE
UNDER-ASSESSMENT ON THE PROPERTY AT 13723 - 93 ST., which was deliberately
under-assessed for 8 years, the public would not have had the PROOF as to how
crooked the city tax assessors are!!


>> Socrates taught his students that the pursuit of truth can only begin once
>> they start to question and analyze every belief that they ever held dear. 
>> If a certain belief passes the tests of evidence, deduction, and logic, it
>> should be kept. If it doesn't, the belief should not only be discarded, 
>> but
>> the thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the 
>> erroneous

>> "sharx35"  wrote in message
>> news:Feydg.35358$Qq.27711@clgrps12...
>>> "John Fleming"  wrote in message
>>> news:vcga7297ahfl0kb5o229s1lqq7gafok2v5@4ax.com...
>>> > On Wed, 24 May 2006 20:58:07 GMT, while chained to a desk in the
>>> > scriptorium, Lance Boyle  wrote:
>>> >> $SamIAm wrote:

>>> >> $> There are many good reasons to appeal your property assessment.
>> Here
>>> >> $> are some reasons:
>>> >> $
>>> >> $> Tell them about the busy streets or the noisy development or
>>> >> $> a problem with your roof or plumbing.
>>> >> $
>>> >> $> 2)  Your property is below average for your community.
>>> >> $
>>> >> $> So if most of the properties in your neighbourhood have
>>> >> $> upgraded flooring, cabinets, plumbing, etc. and yours isn't then 
>>> >> you
>>> >> are
>>> >> $> probably over assessed.
>>> >> $
>>> >> $> 3)  You live in a neighbourhood where many of your neighbours have
>>> >> built
>>> >> $> garages or have completed basement development or have done
>>> >> renovations
>>> >> $> and you haven't.
>>> >> $
>>> >> $In other words, you live in an overvalued shithole.
>>> >
>>> > LOL
>>> >
>>> > Of course, his best option might be to just sell the house and buy
>>> > something nicer in another neighbourhood.  (I was going to say, he 
>>> > could
>>> > do a kitchen upgrade, but if odne legally with all the necessary
>>> > building permits, the city might just increase the assessed market 
>>> > value
>>> > and bump up the taxes.)

>>> > John Fleming
>>> > Edmonton, Canada

>>>
>>> Doing upgrades WITHOUT permits eventually pisses off the neighbours 
>>> enough
>>> that at least ONE of them will file a complaint. I know, I've filed such
>>> complaints. Why should *I* pay more property taxes than some scofflaw who
>>> refuses to get the permits?



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On Fri, 26 May 2006 16:21:08 GMT, Asterix 
wrote:

Even Robert Weldon wants everyone to know about the crooks in the city
tax department, which is why he reposts the header.

Guess even a high roller like Weldon resents other crooks in town getting away
with graft and corruption?

>On Fri, 26 May 2006 07:56:39 GMT, "sharx35" 
>wrote:
>>"TopPoster."  wrote in message 
>>news:Ggydg.230$Dq.236618@news.sisna.com...
>>> Sharx the nark

>>Well, SOME day, if you save up all your welfare payments, you, too, may 
>>become a home owner and concerned about property taxes.

>Well said, sharx.

If it wasn't for Grosvenor exposing the HALF MILLION A YEAR DELIBERATE
UNDER-ASSESSMENT ON THE PROPERTY AT 13723 - 93 ST., which was
deliberately under-assessed for 8 years, the public would not have had
the PROOF as to how crooked the city tax assessors are!!


>>> Socrates taught his students that the pursuit of truth can only begin once
>>> they start to question and analyze every belief that they ever held dear. 
>>> If a certain belief passes the tests of evidence, deduction, and logic, it
>>> should be kept. If it doesn't, the belief should not only be discarded, 
>>> but the thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the 
>>> erroneous

>>> "sharx35"  wrote in message
>>> news:Feydg.35358$Qq.27711@clgrps12...
>>>> "John Fleming"  wrote in message
>>>> news:vcga7297ahfl0kb5o229s1lqq7gafok2v5@4ax.com...
>>>> > On Wed, 24 May 2006 20:58:07 GMT, while chained to a desk in the
>>>> > scriptorium, Lance Boyle  wrote:
>>>> >> $SamIAm wrote:

>>>> >> $> There are many good reasons to appeal your property assessment.
>>> Here are some reasons:

>>>> >> $> Tell them about the busy streets or the noisy development or
>>>> >> $> a problem with your roof or plumbing.

>>>> >> $> 2)  Your property is below average for your community.

>>>> >> $> So if most of the properties in your neighbourhood have
>>>> >> $> upgraded flooring, cabinets, plumbing, etc. and yours isn't then 
>>>> >> you are probably over assessed.

>>>> >> $> 3)  You live in a neighbourhood where many of your neighbours have
>>>> >> built garages or have completed basement development or have done
>>>> >> renovations and you haven't.

>>>> >> $In other words, you live in an overvalued shithole.

>>>> > LOL

>>>> > Of course, his best option might be to just sell the house and buy
>>>> > something nicer in another neighbourhood.  (I was going to say, he 
>>>> > could do a kitchen upgrade, but if odne legally with all the necessary
>>>> > building permits, the city might just increase the assessed market 
>>>> > value and bump up the taxes.)
>>>> > John Fleming
>>>> > Edmonton, Canada

>>>> Doing upgrades WITHOUT permits eventually pisses off the neighbours 
>>>> enough that at least ONE of them will file a complaint. I know, I've filed such
>>>> complaints. Why should *I* pay more property taxes than some scofflaw who
>>>> refuses to get the permits?



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This coming Friday, 30th June is the deadline for filing an Appeal regarding
fraudulently high Tax Assessments.

For a $30 filing fee, one gets the opportunity to say nasty, but true, things
about the crooks in the city tax assessment department.

Plus, with a little work, one has a good chance to get the assessment, and
city taxes, lowered, plus a refund of the $30 fee!


On Fri, 26 May 2006 15:02:43 GMT, Asterix 
wrote:
>On Fri, 26 May 2006 07:56:39 GMT, "sharx35" 
>wrote:

>>Well, SOME day, if you save up all your welfare payments, you, too, may 
>>become a home owner and concerned about property taxes.

>Well said, sharx.

If it wasn't for Grosvenor exposing the HALF MILLION A YEAR DELIBERATE
UNDER-ASSESSMENT ON THE PROPERTY AT 13723 - 93 ST., which was
deliberately under-assessed for 8 years, the public would not have had
the PROOF as to how crooked the city tax assessors are!!


>>> Socrates taught his students that the pursuit of truth can only begin once
>>> they start to question and analyze every belief that they ever held dear. 
>>> If a certain belief passes the tests of evidence, deduction, and logic, it
>>> should be kept. If it doesn't, the belief should not only be discarded, 
>>> but
>>> the thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the 
>>> erroneous

>>> "sharx35"  wrote in message
>>> news:Feydg.35358$Qq.27711@clgrps12...
>>>> "John Fleming"  wrote in message
>>>> news:vcga7297ahfl0kb5o229s1lqq7gafok2v5@4ax.com...
>>>> > On Wed, 24 May 2006 20:58:07 GMT, while chained to a desk in the
>>>> > scriptorium, Lance Boyle  wrote:
>>>> >> $SamIAm wrote:

>>>> >> $> There are many good reasons to appeal your property assessment.
>>> Here are some reasons:

>>>> >> $> Tell them about the busy streets or the noisy development or
>>>> >> $> a problem with your roof or plumbing.

>>>> >> $> 2)  Your property is below average for your community.

>>>> >> $> So if most of the properties in your neighbourhood have
>>>> >> $> upgraded flooring, cabinets, plumbing, etc. and yours isn't then  you are
>>>> >> $> probably over assessed.

>>>> >> $> 3)  You live in a neighbourhood where many of your neighbours have
>>>> >> built
>>>> >> $> garages or have completed basement development or have done renovations
>>>> >> $> and you haven't.

>>>> >> $In other words, you live in an overvalued shithole.
>>>> > LOL

>>>> > Of course, his best option might be to just sell the house and buy
>>>> > something nicer in another neighbourhood.  (I was going to say, he  could
>>>> > do a kitchen upgrade, but if odne legally with all the necessary
>>>> > building permits, the city might just increase the assessed market 
>>>> > value and bump up the taxes.)

>>>> > John Fleming
>>>> > Edmonton, Canada

>>>> Doing upgrades WITHOUT permits eventually pisses off the neighbours  enough
>>>> that at least ONE of them will file a complaint. I know, I've filed such
>>>> complaints. Why should *I* pay more property taxes than some scofflaw who
>>>> refuses to get the permits?



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In May, the crooks in the city Tax Assessment Department mailed out the
fictitous assessments for taxation for this year.

If you feel that the assessment for your property is TOO HIGH, while some
neighbours are deliberately UNDER-ASSESSED, then file an appeal!!
If you are angry enough, let everyone know, and tell us on the newsgroups.

Perhaps if there is enough publicity about these crooks, the city will finally
have to fire a few more, and hire some honest assessors!

All city home assessments are readily available on the internet, for easy
comparison.

Don't let yourself get JEWED by the crooks on the city payroll.
Expose them, as Grosvenor did about the lawyer's property, detailed below.

The lawyer even had his property up for city tax sale, this year, for unpaid
taxes, April 27 2006!!

On 29 Jun 2005 15:16:21 -0700, "Brian Boulanger"
 wrote:

>One MUST wonder - was it bribery, graft, corruption or what, that this
>lawyer got a donation from the city tax department of a HALF MILLION
>DOLLARS each year deliberately UNDER-ASSESSED, while honest taxpayers
>got the shaft/got screwed!!

>Perhaps criminal charges should be considered against those city staff
>responsible, for the massive under-collection of proper tax revenues
>for 8 years? Particularly since it took a courageous taxpayer to force
>this scam into the courts and into the open!


>Newsgroups: edm.general, edm.politics, ab.general, calgary.general
>From: "Brian Boulanger"  - Find messages
>by this author
>Date: 27 Jun 2005 18:19:01 -0700
>Local: Mon,Jun 27 2005 8:19 pm
>Subject: $Half MILLION Underassessed By City Tax Dept.-Heads to Roll!!
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>It seems that now that the City Auditor-General has his teeth into this
>notorious expose, more heads in the City Tax Assessment Department will
>be getting chopped, besides those staff already terminated.

>The notorious William Grosvenor took the city to tax court, and exposed
>the situation where a well-known lawyer's property was improperly
>UNDERASSESSED BY HALF A MILLION DOLLARS - at $149,500, when the
>lawyer's own documentation declared a value of $600,000!!

>Only now, after the courageous expose, is the property properly
>assessed at $651,000!!

>For 8 years the lawyer got off, while taxpayers who did pay their share
>had to make up the difference.

>Everyone involved in the cover-up, and scam, should not only be fired,
>but prosecuted for criminality as well!


>Newsgroups: edm.general, edm.politics
>From: Mike McWilliams  -
>Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:20:14 -0600
>Subject: APPEAL YOUR TAXES! Don't Get Jewed By Crooks In City Tax
>Dept.!

>If your city tax assessment has increased more than the 2.4% inflation
>certified by StatsCan, then perhaps you also are a victim of the crooks
>running Deadmonton?!!

>If you feel you are being overcharged, then do what you are entitled to
>do - FILE AN APPEAL!!

>The odds are in your favour, since more than 80% of appeals against the
>City,win!!

>Checking the website for this year's assessments, it seems that the
>city of Edmonton finally obeyed the ARB,regarding the dramatically
>UNDERASSESSED property owned by a city liar/lawyer!.
>The value now is $651,000, up from the ridiculous $149,500!!!

>If not CORRUPTION, then at least favouritism, when property
>UNDER-ASSESSED BY HALF MILLION DOLLARS!!

>Rumour has it that the city tax assessor responsible, is no longer
>employed by the city??
>Why should a private citizen have to take the City to Court, just to
>force the city to do a proper job, for which some slimeball is getting overpaid?


>From: heinrichhimmelf...@xmail.net (HeinrichHimmelfarb)
>Newsgroups:
>edm.general,edm.politics,ab.ge­­neral,ab.politics,can.general
>Subject: Re: Graft,Corruption Claimed in City Tax Appeal!! LAWYER TO
>GET TAXES QUADRUPLED!!
>Date: 2 Oct 2004 08:46:23 -0700

>It seems that even a lawyer will finally get his comeuppance.
>The ARB on Monday ordered the city tax assessment department to
>finally correct the improper assessment and bring the value up to what
>it should be.

>This means that in one year, the assessment had to jump from the
>massive under-assessment of $149,500 to at least $600,000 and probably
>$608,000!!!

>Even a damned lawyer can finally get what he deserves,when someone has
>the guts to force the issue into a court.

>How many other massive UNDER-ASSESSMENTS, FOR FRIENDS OF THE CITY
>MANAGERS ARE OUT THERE?

>heinrichhimmelf...@xmail.net (HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote in message
>...

>> Regarding the article below,the City is now declining to appear before
>> the ARB, tomorrow at 3:30 in the afternoon!!
>> It seems that they do not want to name the city tax assessor
>> responsible for the more than $200,00 REDUCTION in the property tax
>> assessment of the city liar/lawyer!!

>> In their documents sent to the complainant, the City DOES CONFIRM THE
>> CORRECT VALUE AT MORE THAN $608,000!!
>> The tax appeal Court/ARB will be asked whether this constitutes
>> CORRUPTION, or/and CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE!!!
>> Sharx, and others annoyed with city mismanagement, care to comment?

>> heinrichhimmelf...@xmail.net (HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote in message ...
>> > City have in fact confirmed,and helped correct previous assessment
>> > value.
>> > It was actually $149,500, while the owners declared value,in writing,
>> > was $600,000!!

>> > No explanation from the cretins in the Tax Assessment section as to
>> > why they gave their buddy such a massive UNDER-ASSESSMENT!!
>> > This while they gouge small homeowners and apartment owners with
>> > massive tax hikes!!

>> > No wonder the number of appeals this year is allegedly double.
>> > Perhaps the citizens are finally getting mad enough for a tax revolt.
>> > > Apparently THIS scandal is but the tip of the iceberg, regarding
>> > > irregularities involving the city tax department.
>> > > Another case,coming up in court next week, relates to an out-of-court
>> > > settlement the city had to make un connection with the illegal closure
>> > > of the southbound access road for Calgary Trail at Ellerslie Road.
>> > > One of the property owners, incensed at his astronomical tax assessment hike
>> > > this year, is presenting to the tax appeal court, the evidence that
>> > > business plummeted, plus that the city had to pay one of the businesses!!
>> > > The right hand did not know what the left did.....

>> > > starwars  wrote in message ...
>> > > > Can someone explain how a well-known liar/lawyer is able to get a
>> > > > massive UNDER-ASSESSMENT on his palatial property,which is knowingly
>> > > > under-assessed by more than $200,000.00!!
>> > > > This property, which the lawyer and spouse have declared to be worth
>> > > > at least $600,000 (yes six hundred thousands because it is huge,has
>> > > > law offices on ground floor plus apartments on second floor was
>> > > > assessed last year for less than a quarter of value,for only
>> > > > $148,000!!
>> > > > After the city tax department documented in city tax appeal Court last
>> > > > year, evidence of the real value of $600,000. now this year it is
>> > > > assessed for $393,500 - still more than $200,000 UNDER-ASSESSED!!
>> > > > At the same time, neighbours are being OVER-ASSESSED by 20%!!
>> > > > Naturally, cynics wonder, who is on the take in the City?



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On 11 Nov 2005 21:47:08 -0800, david_deilley@yahoo.ca wrote:

>In one of Terry Pearson's most bonheaded moves ever, he sat in Edmonton
>waging a dishonest propaganda war that tried to connect the murder rate
>in Toronto with "socialism" in southern Ontario.  What TeeWee didn't
>realize -- the man is a semi-literate blowhard, and lacks even the most
>basic skills for fact-checking -- is that the Edmonton murder rate is
>double that in Toronto.  (In an infantile attempted to be "witty,"
>Pearson repeatedly calls Toronto "Cherranna.")

>Now the Edmonton city council -- elected by the virtuous citizens of
>Edmonton -- have reached "outside the box" for a solution to lawless
>Edmonton's shameful murder rate: they have recruited the former Deputy
>Chief of the "Cherranna" police as the new head of of the floundering
>Edmonton Police Department.

>Let's hope that Chief Mike Boyd can bring some of that eastern Canadian
>management skill to the transformation of the Edmonton Police homocide
>squad from Pearson-like blowhard amateurs to a well-organized
>crime-fighting machine.

As the header says, Toronto is now finally doing something about local
gangs.

Why was nothing done while Mike Boyd was Deputy police chief in
Toronto?

Why is nothing being done about the gangs in Edmonton, now that the
same Mike Boyd is their new chief of crooked police?

Interested minds are wondering about the correlationship!
Why no anti-gang activity by the cops while Mike Boyd was 
running the show?

What is the real reason why Toronto refused to have Mike Boyd as chief?

>Who knows -- with an effective police department in Edmonton, the next
>time Terry finds himself in Criminal court, perhaps the tables will be
>turned after the judgement, and it will be the prosecutor smirking at
>Mr. Pearson rather than the other way around.



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The government HAD to plug this tax loophole, following the BRONFMAN $1500
MILLION tax scam!!


On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 11:52:27 -0500, "Protest"  wrote:

>http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?DC103&1



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On 18 Nov 2006 06:52:55 -0800, "OlegP"  wrote:
>Loaf of Bread wrote:

>> I wonder how many of these "New Beggars" we have living in Edmonton.

>In the red-hot economy of Alberta, where anyone with half an
>inclination can have a job in 5 minutes...

With all the many jobs available, why should welfare be given to any
able-bodied person, male,female,or fag?

>And anyone who qualifies for public assistance gets it...

It seems almost that the welfare staffers WANT to give away taxpayer money,
just so they can keep THEIR jobs.

>The problem is that none of those options can pay for a $700-a-day drug
>habit like begging can.

Best solution, give the junkies a "hot cap".
gets rid of the problem, permanently!!

>Like the Sally-Ann says, "dig deeper."



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On 17 Nov 2006 13:38:56 -0800, "Mirelle" ,  in wrote:

>'The amount of money that the non-Jewish consumer has paid the food
>companies to make up for the hidden Jewish Tax is unknown, but it is
>estimated to be in the billions since the scam first started. The
>Orthodox Jewish Councils as well as the food companies keep the amount
>of the fees very secret."
>
>"It is estimated that the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations, which
>manages the (U) symbol protection racket, controls about 85% of the
>"Kosher Nostra " certification business. They now employ about 1200
>Rabbi agents that are spread through out the U.S. Food companies must
>first pay an exorbitant application fee and than a large annual fee for
>the use of the (U) copyright symbol. Secondly, the companies must pay
>separate fees each time a team of Rabbis shows up to "inspect" the
>company's operations. Certain food companies are required to hire
>Rabbis full time at very lucrative salaries."
>
>The "Kosher Nostra Scam" on the American Consumer
>Los Angeles, Alta California - 4/27/2002 - (ACN) La Voz de Aztlan
>receives quite a few "news tips" per week from our many subscribers and
>readers. Some we dismiss immediately but a very few catch our
>attention. Last week we receive an e-mail asking us if we knew the
>significance of the small encircled letter "U" or letter "K" that can
>be found printed on many food cans, food packages and on other kitchen
>products. The message gave us some clues and suggested that we do some
>research into the subject. What we found certainly was "news" to us and
>it both shocked and angered us.
>
>On arriving at my residence, I immediately went to the pantry to verify
>that what I had just learned was actually true. Sure enough, most of
>the packaged and canned foods from major companies, like Proctor &
>Gamble and others, did have the (U), the (K) or other similar markings.
>The Arrowhead water bottle, the instant Folgers Coffee, the Kelloggs
>box, the Jiff Peanut Butter, the Pepper container, the Trader Joe's tea
>box and even the Glads plastic sandwich bags carton had the (U) or (K)
>mark on them.
>
>We needed a little more verification so we called two major companies
>to asked some questions. We chose Proctor & Gamble that markets the
>Folgers Coffee and the Clorox Company that manufactures the Glads
>plastic zip lock sandwich bags. Each of the two companies, as well as
>most others, have 1-800 telephone numbers printed on their packages for
>consumers to call in case they have any questions about their products.
>When we asked the Proctor & Gamble representative what the (U) meant on
>their Folgers Coffee container, she asked us to wait until she
>consulted with her supervisor. She came back and informed us that the
>mark meant that the coffee was " certified kosher". We than asked her
>how and who certified the coffee to be "kosher" and whether it cost any
>money to do so. She refused to answer these and other questions. She
>suggested that we write to their Corporate Public Affairs Department.
>We than called the Clorox Corporation to ask what the (U) meant on the
>package of their Glads plastic sandwich bags and she also said that the
>(U) meant that the plastic bags were "kosher" but refused to answer
>questions concerning payments the Clorox Corporation has to make in
>order to be able to print the (U) on their products.
>
>What we learned next, pretty much floored me personally. I learned that
>major food companies throughout America actually pay a Jewish Tax
>amounting to hundreds of million of dollars per year in order to
>receive protection. This hidden tax gets passed, of course, to all
>non-Jewish consumers of the products. The scam is to coerce the
>companies to pay up or suffer the consequences of a Jewish boycott.
>Jewish consumers have learned not to buy any kitchen product that does
>not have the (U) the (K) and other similar markings.
>
>Another shocker was learning who is actually behind these sophisticated
>"Kosher Nostra Scams." It turns out that the perpetrators of these
>elaborate extortion schemes are actually Rabbinical Councils that are
>set up, not just in the U.S. but in other western countries as well.
>For example, the largest payola operation in the U.S. is run by those
>who license the (U) symbol. The (U) symbol provides protection for many
>products sold here in Aztlan and in the United States. This symbol is
>managed by the The Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations with
>headquarters at 333 Seventh Avenue in New York City.
>
>The scam works like a well oiled machine and is now generating vast
>amounts of funds, some of which are being utilized by the Union of
>Orthodox Rabbis to support the Ariel Sharon Zionist government in
>Israel. The website of the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations is
>full of pro-Israel and anti-Palestinian propaganda.
>
>The "Kosher Nostra" protection racket starts when an Orthodox Rabbi
>approaches a company to warn the owners that unless their product is
>certified as kosher, or "fit for a Jew to eat", they will face a
>boycott by every Jew in America. Most, if not all of the food
>companies, succumb to the blackmail because of fear of the Jewish
>dominated media and a boycott that may eventually culminate in
>bankruptcy. Also, the food companies know that the cost can be passed
>on to the consumer anyway. The food companies have kept secret from the
>general consumer the meaning of the (U) and the amount of money they
>have to pay the Jewish Rabbis.
>
>It is estimated that the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations, which
>manages the (U) symbol protection racket, controls about 85% of the
>"Kosher Nostra " certification business. They now employ about 1200
>Rabbi agents that are spread through out the U.S. Food companies must
>first pay an exorbitant application fee and than a large annual fee for
>the use of the (U) copyright symbol. Secondly, the companies must pay
>separate fees each time a team of Rabbis shows up to "inspect" the
>company's operations. Certain food companies are required to hire
>Rabbis full time at very lucrative salaries.
>
>The amount of money that the non-Jewish consumer has paid the food
>companies to make up for the hidden Jewish Tax is unknown, but it is
>estimated to be in the billions since the scam first started. The
>Orthodox Jewish Councils as well as the food companies keep the amount
>of the fees very secret. The Jewish owned Wall Street Journal wrote
>about the problem many years ago, but they have stopped writing about
>it now.
>
>Only public awareness concerning the "Kosher Nostra Scam" will
>eventually help stop this swindle of the American consumer. Public
>education of the scam may lead to an eventual non-Jewish boycott of all
>products with the (U), (K) or other Jewish protection symbols. I
>certainly do not need to pay extra for "kosher water", "kosher coffee"
>or "kosher plastic sandwich bags". In fact, I demand my money back for
>all I had to pay over the years for the hidden and illegal Jewish Tax.
>Are there any bright attorneys out there that could bring a class
>action suit against the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations on
>behalf of the citizens of Aztlan and other non-Jewish people?
>
>"The Petition to End Kosher Certification Labels and to End the
>Involvement of the Federal Food & Drug Admistration's Participation"

>CLICK ON TO THE FOLLOWING LINK FROM THE LINK BELOW TO GET TO THIS
>ARTICLE.
>"Related La Voz de Aztlan article:
>The "Kosher Nostra Scam" on the American Consumer"----CLICK

>http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.aztlan.net/metzitzah_b_peh.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.aztlan.net/
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>Mirelle

On 24 Sep 2006 15:25:56 -0000, in soc.culture.usa FrankFarber  wrote:

To view the video on the KOSHER TAX, go to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDPdDv7cEZo

From: tyler 
Newsgroups: bc.general,calgary.general,soc.culture.jewish,
alt.revisionism,alt.conspiracy
Subject: Mr. Durden Wins the Match! Knockout of McVay!
Even Israelites Agree!
Message-ID: 

Mr. Durden Wins the Match! Knockout of McVay and his jackals!

Here are all the important points that prove McVay has been
lying all along. Lying through his zionist teeth.

1)	US businesses are complaining about kosher tax
       http://www.ustr.gov/reports/nte/1998/israel.pdf

2)	Jewish businesses are complaining about kosher tax
http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2000/01/11/News/News.1181.html

3)	Jewish businesses complain about Rabbinical power:
http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2000/01/11/News/News.1181.html

4)	Rabbinical firms are taking huge amounts out of the pockets of
the consumer for a religious tax that serves only a religious
minority. Circle K alone takes in over 20 million dollars per year.
The estimates do not include the cost that the manufacturer incurs in
equipment changes that are also passed to the consumer.

            Kosher Cooking: Keeping kosher is a big business
      By Peter Sinton / San Francisco Chronicle   April 2001

5) Muslims are not crazy about Kosher Foods:
         http://64.41.98.55/DoMuslimsKnowMay2001.shtml

6) Whenever anyone complains about the rabbinical or kosher tax McVay
and his jackals label them as anti-semitic, immediately! Well are
these Jewish businessmen and lawmakers in Israel also anti-semitic?
      http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2000/01/11/News/News.1181.html

It is clear that the intimidation, name calling and labeling that
McVay and his followers levy against any discussion of this matter is
also leveled at honest American and Canadian businesses. McVay's
behaviour is but an example of the verbal abuse that Zionists and the
rabbinical organizations use to extort money and compliance with
kosher certification.

Using reasoning and deductive logic one can clearly conclude that the
kosher tax is a drain on the gentile purse. It is not FOR the gentile
and it costs many millions and not a trivial amount. Even Jews in
Israel complain! Why in the world don't Americans and Canadians?

The Rabbinical Organizations are economic vampires. They drain money
>from the poorest Canadian and American for food they desparately need
and support a religious minority that practices barbaric acts on
animals. These acts, such as slitting throats of living creatures and
bleeding them to death, have been banned in progressive Sweden.

It's time we found out the truth! It's hard because of the secretive
nature of the Rabbinical organizations, but it can be rooted out!

Yours truly, in triumph,
tyler


Kenneth McVay,SOBC, convicted of child molesting
and car theft in California and Oregon, the
well-known fag in Canada,Fag McVay of Vancouver,
also a convicted car thief and all round molester,
and still unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of
the Canadian branch of NAMBLA, wants all to know
about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
Here is the latest.......

From: tyler 
Newsgroups: edm.general
Subject: The Council of Orthodox Rabbis: Kosher Tax on Canadians?
Message-ID: 
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 05:05:45 GMT

The Council of Orthodox Rabbis: Kosher Tax on Canadians?

The Council of Orthodox Rabbis or COR is a certification for
kosher foods. Part of every dollar on an item that you purchase
that has the abreviation COR followed by a number goes to the
council of orthodox rabbis, a religious organization. As a
consumer you should be aware that some products that you are
purchasing cost more because of this certification.

The COR certification is now on foods and items that according
to Jewish law do not have to be certified. Salt is one of these
yet you will find COR 69 on Sifto salt and COR 92 on Windsor salt. Ketchup
also
does not need certification yet there is a COR 10 on
Heinz ketchup. You will also find COR certification on such absurd
items as Javex Bleach.Can anyone please inform me that as a result
of rabbinical supervision, Javex Bleach has become purer or more hygienic or
more effectiveI  Or ketchup? Or salt? Is it the amount
of iodine in the salt that the rabbis have to approve or what? I
thought this was done by nutritionists? Do the rabbis visit and
inspect every salt mine and tomato patch?

What the hell gives here? Why am I as a non-denominational Canadian
consumer being forced to pay a religious group for their certification
not only on a product that doesn't need it according to their own laws
but on any product whatsoever? Why is a religious minority scamming
money off of millions of Canadians on essential products such as salt
that doesn't even need kosher certification? Is this not religious
fraud? Certification for products that don't need it?

Write to:
Reuben Mark, Chairman & CEO
Colgate-Palmolive
300 Pak Avenue
New York, NY
USA      10022

and ask for a non kosher javex bleach product as you shouldn't have
to pay for COR certification. Unbelievable that this is being done.

Write to:
Guy L. Leblanc
Vice President, Production & Administration
The Canadian Salt Company, Ltd.
7th Floor
755 Boulevard St. Jean
Pointe Claire, Quebec  H9R 5M9

and ask for non kosher table salt. It should be cheaper. Ask him
specifically, how has Windsor Salt production been modified so as
to comply with Jewish religious laws?  How frequent is rabbinical
inspection of Windsor Salt plants, and of what does this inspection
consist?  Is there anyone who will claim that Windsor Table Salt is
in any detectable way different following kosher certification from
what it was before?

As a matter of fact ask these guys:
Do you have information on how Council of Orthodox Rabbis
kosher-certification earnings are distributed, as for example what
proportion of them goes toward supporting the ethnic cleansing of
Palestinians by the State of Israel, or what proportion goes toward
the expansion of Israel's nuclear arsenal, etc.etc In other words,do
the proceeds go to political as well as religious agendas that have
nothing to do with Canada?

Where is W5  on this matter? Are there any newsreporters that can
explain this? Maybe the Protestants and Catholics will catch on and
start making their own certification organization. I can see it now,
GFJ, good for jesus certification...

Wow, god is such good business...

tyler


On 2 Jan 2002 09:40:35 -0800,
in edm.general
his_shadow@my-deja.com (His Divine Shadow) used both functioning neurons to
say:
>kmcvay@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote in message
news:...
>> ADL Special Edition, January 1991
>> A periodic update from the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith
>> Civil Rights Division

>> "The Kosher Food Tax is the biggest consumer fraud existing in
>> America."

>> The bizarre claim by right wing extremists that kosher certification
>> markings on food labels ("U," "K," etc.) cost consumers extra money
>> and represent, in effect, a "kosher tax" to make rabbis rich, is a
>> striking example of the propaganda used by anti-Semites to trick the
>> uninformed into accepting conspiracy charges and stereotypes about
>> Jews.

>Thanks for the info, Kenneth.

Ken's information is all well and good but it still doesn't address all
of the issues raised in the appended post,  which probably was the
reason why he was moved to comment on the subject in the first place.

All and all, I don't suppose it is any worse than anything perpetuated
by the tradition of 'Royal Warrants' (http://www.royalwarrant.org/)
but I personally find the traditional rant and spin attached to everything
Ken puts out as some neo-nazi neo-conservative conspirarcy to be
getting a bit thin, and tiresome. A simple explaination of fact would
have sufficed.

It's a continual appeal to developing a mindset that says if you aren't
a friend then you are any enemy. It's bullshit. I dare say there are
probably proportionately just as many Jews that are political right
wing extremeists as any other religion, including Baptists.

No one has to be a neo-nazi to object to any spcial concession to a
religious organization thing that increases the cost all consumers must
bear, even if it adds only $0.0005 to the cost of an individual item.

A few years back many people got their undies in a twist when it
was revealed that Rev. Sun Myung Moon was involved in many
well known companies, and boycotted it's products.

AFAIC it doesn't matter if a religion is termed a cult, there is no
reason to attribute arcane motivations to anything that helps people
to appreciate the complexity of the world we live in.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org


Ken McVay invites callers to his homosexuals escorts office:
1-250-616-9431
Or, VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?

http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg


Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to work:(780)492-0473


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the website for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Or, other useful websites include:
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natvan.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay rot in hell.


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, cops and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
is a revolutionary act."
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore."
John Bryant

TOLERANCE is a virtue of a man WITHOUT convictions.
G. K. Chesterton.




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Regrettably, all the news reports are correct and TRUE.

Police brutality in Edmonton is so rampant, the Edmonton Journal newspaper, 
as well as the TV stations hardly have a day pass, 
without yet another expose of more police brutality!!

The media need not fabricate the stories, since the Courts carry 
the charges!!

Your comments seem to be along the line of "shoot the messenger 
of bad news!"

By the way, reference to Calgary merely confirms the truth, that Calgary does
not have the same problem with crooked cops!
In other words a great place to visit, unlike the cesspool of Edmonton.


On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 05:01:38 GMT, "Alohacyberian" 
wrote:
>"Alan Pollock"  wrote in message 
>news:e99ivp$mvk$1@reader2.panix.com...
>> In rec.travel.usa-canada Alohacyberian  wrote:
>>
>>> The comments are so strident that I take them with a grain of salt.  If 
>>> they  were toned down serious people might take them more seriously.  KM
>>
>> It's easy to take some factual basis remote or not, fondle, spin and 
>> expand  into impressions designed to make the vulnerable believe a truth that just
>> doesn't exist.
>>
>> An example - albeit a touch more subtle but not by much - is Michael 
>> Moore's  "documentary" in effect a mockumentary called Farenheit 9-11.
>>
>> I must honestly add that I haven't researched Edmonton because quite 
>> frankly I  could care less. However the hate-posts here have had the opposite of 
>> their  intended effect on me.
>>
>> Edmonton's quite possibly a very good place to visit.
>>
>> Anybody who uses techniques like that of the posters is unworthy of my
>> respect, so in my book Edmonton's still a virgin, at the very least.
>>
>> The haters keep putting ketchup on the eggs of their own undoing. Nex
>>
>I have a friend who lives in Ontario and travels to Calgary, Alberta once a 
>year.  I asked him if he ever goes to Edmonton and he said that he'd been 
>there a few times and hadn't heard anything bad about it.  He was unaware of 
>the flap we've read here.  I, too will probably never go to Edmonton, 
>especially as long as Banff and Lake Louise are alternatives.  So yes, your 
>comparison of the shrill conjectures about Edmonton in this forum to Michael 
>Moore's schlockumentaries do seem apropos.  KM



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In a banner headline story across page B1 of the Edmonton Journal for 21 July
2006, Statistics Canada reports that Edmonton Canada is now the crime capital
of Canada!

The Edmonton region homicide/murder rate is documented at 4.3 per 100,000
people, compared to only 2.0 for crime-ridden Toronto!!

And, the Edmonton stats do not include bodies found outside the area, from the
notorious Edmonton serial killer of female prostitiutes!

And the city wonders why it is getting such bad international publicity,
mainly caused by the crooked cops, who apparently can not even catch a cold,
let alone the serial murderer, who is suspected by many, to be either a cop,
judge or criminologist.


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Do not bother to sign this so-called petition.

Have all you sheeple forgotten that the BRONFMANs JEWED the tax department out
of $1500 MILLION IN UNPAID TAXES!!

That is why Harper had to plug the loop[hole, so that everyone, CXhristian or
JEW, would all have to pay their fair share of taxes!!



On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 11:33:31 -0500, "Petition" 
wrote:

>This government action has been a terrible betrayal which will ruin many people's retirement. 
>Support them! sign the petition! Harper broke his word and caused a great deal of financial
>damage to Canadian investors. 
>
>The petition link is:

>***********We have now 672 signatures!************************

>This government action has been a terrible betrayal which will ruin many people's retirement. 
>Support them! sign the petition! Harper broke his word and caused a great deal of financial
>damage to Canadian investors. 

>"unfortunately, the allegation of tax leakage has been so much
>hammered in the media and some political circles that is has
>become a widely accepted truth without much questioning and discussion. 
>It was nevertheless the official rationale underpinning the decision to tax the trusts."
>More details here: 
>http://www.caif.ca/content/IncomeTrustsTax.Fortin.pdf 
>Taxation of income trusts was it worth the cost
>and the turmoil?" By Yves Fortin November 2006.
>Yves Fortin is an economist specializing in international
>finance and public finance. He acquired extensive economic and 
>financial policy experience as well as knowledge of capital markets
> during his long career with the Canadian Government, including the
> Department of Foreign Affairs, and the Department of Finance and a 
>number of international organizations.



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Sun newspapers, in a banner headline half page story on Wednesday 22 November
2006, report that Canada Revenue Agency [CRA} are not only refusing payments
given to them directly, BUT ARE ALSO FINING THOSE WHO PAY DIRECTLY!!

A business in Alberta,who has been paying taxes regularly at his local tax
office for several years, paid his $287,000 taxes several days before it was
due, again at his local tax office.

The crooks at Extortion Canada had the gall to send him a demand for a $28,700
fine, together with their note saying:
"Since our records indicate that your payment of $287,000 was direct remitted,
you have been assessed the penalty for failure to remit at a financial
institution."

The payment was stamped "Delivered by Hand" to the Tax Services Office and the
cheque was immediately deposited to the Receiver General of Canada.

The taxpayer calls this action by Extortion Canada "incredibly offensive".

John Williamson, director of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, calls this
rule "UTTER MADNESS"

"This just enforces the perception of a faceless bureacracy"

Coming together with the refusal of CRA to accept CASH in payment for debts
owed the tax department, what comes next -pay in actual blood?


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In today's Edmonton JOurnal front page [Thursday 23 November 2006] the police
chief is quoted as saying that this year's murder rate will be the third in a
row, increasing each year.

In other words, the imported now chief, is USELESS!!

On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:13:09 GMT, ProBonoPublico
 wrote:
>On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:30:24 GMT, enquiring minds 
>wrote:
>>Roedy Green wrote:
>>> On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 19:24:43 GMT, ProBonoPublico
>>>  wrote, quoted or indirectly
>>> quoted someone who said :

>>> > Edmonton Canada is now the crime capital
>>> >of Canada!

>>key of course, is what crimes and how long people go to jail if
>>convicted of them.
>>I think your average murder spends 3 years in jail today whereas in the
>>1970s it was about 10 to 15 years.  That is a huge savings to taxpayers when you think of
>>prison as costing about 200 or more dollars to keep someone in it for a day.

>Judges in Edmonton regulalrly release killers, without any jail time at all!!

>Last week 3 punks involved in the murder of a teenager, got no jail time, just
>probabtion!!

>A former city engineer, stunting with his corvette who killed an innocent
>pedestrian, also got no jail time because he was a supposedly good citizen.

>Hell, a so-called judge, T.D.Clackson even ruled that a convicted murderer in
>the Max Prison should be allowed to have a shiv, for his protection against
>the guards!! {Kerr case]. The Supreme Court of Canada ruled basically that
>Clackson was nuts, and overturned his ruling!!



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Now is the time for western Canada, especially Alberta and Bc, to separate
>from the commies and frogs, and join Alaska in making a new free enterprise
nation.

Westerners are just plain fed up, having to send hundreds of millions of
dollars each year, to the lazy parasitic frenchies in Quebec, apart from
having to pay for useless bilingualism in the federal snivel service!!

Thanks to Harpo, he has now guaranteed that he will NOT get re-elected in the
forthcoming election.

Perhaps the lying libs will get back in, or maybe a minority government, but
Harpo cut his opwn throat, apart from all his corpses in Afghanistan.


On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:33:10 GMT, dave ,  in wrote:

>He done it.

>Hopeless Harper has stated that he will recognize tommorrow
>through the Bloc proposed members bill the Quebec "nation".

>The RADICAL Right-wing Looney Conservatives have manages to
>destroy Canada in under a year.  Congratulations.

>I'm going to file a writ tommorrow to have HAPLESS HARPER
>arrested for treason.

>I just wish I could follow that with a petition for
>Canadians to sign for Harper's immediate hanging, and
>that of his currently elected Conservative members,
>their supporters, and the current members of the NCC.

>Take that USA Republicans, and idiots like Stephen Green
>and Terry Pearson.

>Your idiot is doing what he can to dismantle Canada, but
>this is the nail in the Conservative election coffin.

>Bring on the vote of non-confidence, and the next Federal
>Election.



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On 17 Nov 2006 13:38:56 -0800, "Mirelle" ,  in wrote:

>'The amount of money that the non-Jewish consumer has paid the food
>companies to make up for the hidden Jewish Tax is unknown, but it is
>estimated to be in the billions since the scam first started. The
>Orthodox Jewish Councils as well as the food companies keep the amount
>of the fees very secret."
>
>"It is estimated that the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations, which
>manages the (U) symbol protection racket, controls about 85% of the
>"Kosher Nostra " certification business. They now employ about 1200
>Rabbi agents that are spread through out the U.S. Food companies must
>first pay an exorbitant application fee and than a large annual fee for
>the use of the (U) copyright symbol. Secondly, the companies must pay
>separate fees each time a team of Rabbis shows up to "inspect" the
>company's operations. Certain food companies are required to hire
>Rabbis full time at very lucrative salaries."
>
>The "Kosher Nostra Scam" on the American Consumer
>Los Angeles, Alta California - 4/27/2002 - (ACN) La Voz de Aztlan
>receives quite a few "news tips" per week from our many subscribers and
>readers. Some we dismiss immediately but a very few catch our
>attention. Last week we receive an e-mail asking us if we knew the
>significance of the small encircled letter "U" or letter "K" that can
>be found printed on many food cans, food packages and on other kitchen
>products. The message gave us some clues and suggested that we do some
>research into the subject. What we found certainly was "news" to us and
>it both shocked and angered us.
>
>On arriving at my residence, I immediately went to the pantry to verify
>that what I had just learned was actually true. Sure enough, most of
>the packaged and canned foods from major companies, like Proctor &
>Gamble and others, did have the (U), the (K) or other similar markings.
>The Arrowhead water bottle, the instant Folgers Coffee, the Kelloggs
>box, the Jiff Peanut Butter, the Pepper container, the Trader Joe's tea
>box and even the Glads plastic sandwich bags carton had the (U) or (K)
>mark on them.
>
>We needed a little more verification so we called two major companies
>to asked some questions. We chose Proctor & Gamble that markets the
>Folgers Coffee and the Clorox Company that manufactures the Glads
>plastic zip lock sandwich bags. Each of the two companies, as well as
>most others, have 1-800 telephone numbers printed on their packages for
>consumers to call in case they have any questions about their products.
>When we asked the Proctor & Gamble representative what the (U) meant on
>their Folgers Coffee container, she asked us to wait until she
>consulted with her supervisor. She came back and informed us that the
>mark meant that the coffee was " certified kosher". We than asked her
>how and who certified the coffee to be "kosher" and whether it cost any
>money to do so. She refused to answer these and other questions. She
>suggested that we write to their Corporate Public Affairs Department.
>We than called the Clorox Corporation to ask what the (U) meant on the
>package of their Glads plastic sandwich bags and she also said that the
>(U) meant that the plastic bags were "kosher" but refused to answer
>questions concerning payments the Clorox Corporation has to make in
>order to be able to print the (U) on their products.
>
>What we learned next, pretty much floored me personally. I learned that
>major food companies throughout America actually pay a Jewish Tax
>amounting to hundreds of million of dollars per year in order to
>receive protection. This hidden tax gets passed, of course, to all
>non-Jewish consumers of the products. The scam is to coerce the
>companies to pay up or suffer the consequences of a Jewish boycott.
>Jewish consumers have learned not to buy any kitchen product that does
>not have the (U) the (K) and other similar markings.
>
>Another shocker was learning who is actually behind these sophisticated
>"Kosher Nostra Scams." It turns out that the perpetrators of these
>elaborate extortion schemes are actually Rabbinical Councils that are
>set up, not just in the U.S. but in other western countries as well.
>For example, the largest payola operation in the U.S. is run by those
>who license the (U) symbol. The (U) symbol provides protection for many
>products sold here in Aztlan and in the United States. This symbol is
>managed by the The Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations with
>headquarters at 333 Seventh Avenue in New York City.
>
>The scam works like a well oiled machine and is now generating vast
>amounts of funds, some of which are being utilized by the Union of
>Orthodox Rabbis to support the Ariel Sharon Zionist government in
>Israel. The website of the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations is
>full of pro-Israel and anti-Palestinian propaganda.
>
>The "Kosher Nostra" protection racket starts when an Orthodox Rabbi
>approaches a company to warn the owners that unless their product is
>certified as kosher, or "fit for a Jew to eat", they will face a
>boycott by every Jew in America. Most, if not all of the food
>companies, succumb to the blackmail because of fear of the Jewish
>dominated media and a boycott that may eventually culminate in
>bankruptcy. Also, the food companies know that the cost can be passed
>on to the consumer anyway. The food companies have kept secret from the
>general consumer the meaning of the (U) and the amount of money they
>have to pay the Jewish Rabbis.
>
>It is estimated that the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations, which
>manages the (U) symbol protection racket, controls about 85% of the
>"Kosher Nostra " certification business. They now employ about 1200
>Rabbi agents that are spread through out the U.S. Food companies must
>first pay an exorbitant application fee and than a large annual fee for
>the use of the (U) copyright symbol. Secondly, the companies must pay
>separate fees each time a team of Rabbis shows up to "inspect" the
>company's operations. Certain food companies are required to hire
>Rabbis full time at very lucrative salaries.
>
>The amount of money that the non-Jewish consumer has paid the food
>companies to make up for the hidden Jewish Tax is unknown, but it is
>estimated to be in the billions since the scam first started. The
>Orthodox Jewish Councils as well as the food companies keep the amount
>of the fees very secret. The Jewish owned Wall Street Journal wrote
>about the problem many years ago, but they have stopped writing about
>it now.
>
>Only public awareness concerning the "Kosher Nostra Scam" will
>eventually help stop this swindle of the American consumer. Public
>education of the scam may lead to an eventual non-Jewish boycott of all
>products with the (U), (K) or other Jewish protection symbols. I
>certainly do not need to pay extra for "kosher water", "kosher coffee"
>or "kosher plastic sandwich bags". In fact, I demand my money back for
>all I had to pay over the years for the hidden and illegal Jewish Tax.
>Are there any bright attorneys out there that could bring a class
>action suit against the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations on
>behalf of the citizens of Aztlan and other non-Jewish people?
>
>"The Petition to End Kosher Certification Labels and to End the
>Involvement of the Federal Food & Drug Admistration's Participation"

>CLICK ON TO THE FOLLOWING LINK FROM THE LINK BELOW TO GET TO THIS
>ARTICLE.
>"Related La Voz de Aztlan article:
>The "Kosher Nostra Scam" on the American Consumer"----CLICK

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>Mirelle

On 24 Sep 2006 15:25:56 -0000, in soc.culture.usa FrankFarber  wrote:

To view the video on the KOSHER TAX, go to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDPdDv7cEZo

From: tyler 
Newsgroups: bc.general,calgary.general,soc.culture.jewish,
alt.revisionism,alt.conspiracy
Subject: Mr. Durden Wins the Match! Knockout of McVay!
Even Israelites Agree!
Message-ID: 

Mr. Durden Wins the Match! Knockout of McVay and his jackals!

Here are all the important points that prove McVay has been
lying all along. Lying through his zionist teeth.

1)	US businesses are complaining about kosher tax
       http://www.ustr.gov/reports/nte/1998/israel.pdf

2)	Jewish businesses are complaining about kosher tax
http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2000/01/11/News/News.1181.html

3)	Jewish businesses complain about Rabbinical power:
http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2000/01/11/News/News.1181.html

4)	Rabbinical firms are taking huge amounts out of the pockets of
the consumer for a religious tax that serves only a religious
minority. Circle K alone takes in over 20 million dollars per year.
The estimates do not include the cost that the manufacturer incurs in
equipment changes that are also passed to the consumer.

            Kosher Cooking: Keeping kosher is a big business
      By Peter Sinton / San Francisco Chronicle   April 2001

5) Muslims are not crazy about Kosher Foods:
         http://64.41.98.55/DoMuslimsKnowMay2001.shtml

6) Whenever anyone complains about the rabbinical or kosher tax McVay
and his jackals label them as anti-semitic, immediately! Well are
these Jewish businessmen and lawmakers in Israel also anti-semitic?
      http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2000/01/11/News/News.1181.html

It is clear that the intimidation, name calling and labeling that
McVay and his followers levy against any discussion of this matter is
also leveled at honest American and Canadian businesses. McVay's
behaviour is but an example of the verbal abuse that Zionists and the
rabbinical organizations use to extort money and compliance with
kosher certification.

Using reasoning and deductive logic one can clearly conclude that the
kosher tax is a drain on the gentile purse. It is not FOR the gentile
and it costs many millions and not a trivial amount. Even Jews in
Israel complain! Why in the world don't Americans and Canadians?

The Rabbinical Organizations are economic vampires. They drain money
>from the poorest Canadian and American for food they desparately need
and support a religious minority that practices barbaric acts on
animals. These acts, such as slitting throats of living creatures and
bleeding them to death, have been banned in progressive Sweden.

It's time we found out the truth! It's hard because of the secretive
nature of the Rabbinical organizations, but it can be rooted out!

Yours truly, in triumph,
tyler


Kenneth McVay,SOBC, convicted of child molesting
and car theft in California and Oregon, the
well-known fag in Canada,Fag McVay of Vancouver,
also a convicted car thief and all round molester,
and still unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of
the Canadian branch of NAMBLA, wants all to know
about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
Here is the latest.......

From: tyler 
Newsgroups: edm.general
Subject: The Council of Orthodox Rabbis: Kosher Tax on Canadians?
Message-ID: 
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 05:05:45 GMT

The Council of Orthodox Rabbis: Kosher Tax on Canadians?

The Council of Orthodox Rabbis or COR is a certification for
kosher foods. Part of every dollar on an item that you purchase
that has the abreviation COR followed by a number goes to the
council of orthodox rabbis, a religious organization. As a
consumer you should be aware that some products that you are
purchasing cost more because of this certification.

The COR certification is now on foods and items that according
to Jewish law do not have to be certified. Salt is one of these
yet you will find COR 69 on Sifto salt and COR 92 on Windsor salt. Ketchup
also
does not need certification yet there is a COR 10 on
Heinz ketchup. You will also find COR certification on such absurd
items as Javex Bleach.Can anyone please inform me that as a result
of rabbinical supervision, Javex Bleach has become purer or more hygienic or
more effectiveI  Or ketchup? Or salt? Is it the amount
of iodine in the salt that the rabbis have to approve or what? I
thought this was done by nutritionists? Do the rabbis visit and
inspect every salt mine and tomato patch?

What the hell gives here? Why am I as a non-denominational Canadian
consumer being forced to pay a religious group for their certification
not only on a product that doesn't need it according to their own laws
but on any product whatsoever? Why is a religious minority scamming
money off of millions of Canadians on essential products such as salt
that doesn't even need kosher certification? Is this not religious
fraud? Certification for products that don't need it?

Write to:
Reuben Mark, Chairman & CEO
Colgate-Palmolive
300 Pak Avenue
New York, NY
USA      10022

and ask for a non kosher javex bleach product as you shouldn't have
to pay for COR certification. Unbelievable that this is being done.

Write to:
Guy L. Leblanc
Vice President, Production & Administration
The Canadian Salt Company, Ltd.
7th Floor
755 Boulevard St. Jean
Pointe Claire, Quebec  H9R 5M9

and ask for non kosher table salt. It should be cheaper. Ask him
specifically, how has Windsor Salt production been modified so as
to comply with Jewish religious laws?  How frequent is rabbinical
inspection of Windsor Salt plants, and of what does this inspection
consist?  Is there anyone who will claim that Windsor Table Salt is
in any detectable way different following kosher certification from
what it was before?

As a matter of fact ask these guys:
Do you have information on how Council of Orthodox Rabbis
kosher-certification earnings are distributed, as for example what
proportion of them goes toward supporting the ethnic cleansing of
Palestinians by the State of Israel, or what proportion goes toward
the expansion of Israel's nuclear arsenal, etc.etc In other words,do
the proceeds go to political as well as religious agendas that have
nothing to do with Canada?

Where is W5  on this matter? Are there any newsreporters that can
explain this? Maybe the Protestants and Catholics will catch on and
start making their own certification organization. I can see it now,
GFJ, good for jesus certification...

Wow, god is such good business...

tyler


On 2 Jan 2002 09:40:35 -0800,
in edm.general
his_shadow@my-deja.com (His Divine Shadow) used both functioning neurons to
say:
>kmcvay@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote in message
news:...
>> ADL Special Edition, January 1991
>> A periodic update from the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith
>> Civil Rights Division

>> "The Kosher Food Tax is the biggest consumer fraud existing in
>> America."

>> The bizarre claim by right wing extremists that kosher certification
>> markings on food labels ("U," "K," etc.) cost consumers extra money
>> and represent, in effect, a "kosher tax" to make rabbis rich, is a
>> striking example of the propaganda used by anti-Semites to trick the
>> uninformed into accepting conspiracy charges and stereotypes about
>> Jews.

>Thanks for the info, Kenneth.

Ken's information is all well and good but it still doesn't address all
of the issues raised in the appended post,  which probably was the
reason why he was moved to comment on the subject in the first place.

All and all, I don't suppose it is any worse than anything perpetuated
by the tradition of 'Royal Warrants' (http://www.royalwarrant.org/)
but I personally find the traditional rant and spin attached to everything
Ken puts out as some neo-nazi neo-conservative conspirarcy to be
getting a bit thin, and tiresome. A simple explaination of fact would
have sufficed.

It's a continual appeal to developing a mindset that says if you aren't
a friend then you are any enemy. It's bullshit. I dare say there are
probably proportionately just as many Jews that are political right
wing extremeists as any other religion, including Baptists.

No one has to be a neo-nazi to object to any spcial concession to a
religious organization thing that increases the cost all consumers must
bear, even if it adds only $0.0005 to the cost of an individual item.

A few years back many people got their undies in a twist when it
was revealed that Rev. Sun Myung Moon was involved in many
well known companies, and boycotted it's products.

AFAIC it doesn't matter if a religion is termed a cult, there is no
reason to attribute arcane motivations to anything that helps people
to appreciate the complexity of the world we live in.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org


Ken McVay invites callers to his homosexuals escorts office:
1-250-616-9431
Or, VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?

http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg


Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to work:(780)492-0473


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the website for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Or, other useful websites include:
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natvan.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay rot in hell.


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, cops and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
is a revolutionary act."
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore."
John Bryant

TOLERANCE is a virtue of a man WITHOUT convictions.
G. K. Chesterton.




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Subject: Re: CRA/EXTORTION Canada - Screwing Canadian Businesses - Losing Businesses & JOBS!! REFUSING CASH & Payments!!
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On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 21:49:57 GMT, David Kehler ,  in
wrote:
>Tony 'Nicoya' Mantler  wrote in
>news:nicoya-97D2BA.14365828112006@shawnews.wp.shawcable.net: 
>> In article ,
>>  David Kehler  wrote:

>>: However, it's perfectly reasonable to assume that the place where you
>>: file your taxes would be able to accept payment.  That's the
>>: difference. 

>> I would assume no such thing. Instead, I would read the form where it
>> indicates how and when to pay any outstanding amounts.

>> But I guess reading instructions is much less entertaining than
>> ranting in newsgroups.

>> Cheers - Tony 'Nicoya' Mantler :)

>Well, I had no idea that posting an opinion in a civilized manner on a 
>newsgroup was considered "ranting", but I guess I'll take your word for 
>it.

>Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but hadn't payments been accepted 
>at these offices in the past?  If so, then it would be reasonable to 
>conclude that it would still be acceptable to do so.  Certainly, things 
>change, but unless it was well known that they were not accepting 
>payments anymore, I see no reason to expect that everyone would know 
>this.  

The key point of all the complaints about CRA/EXTORTION CANADA relate 
to the fact that CRA WANT TO REFUSE TO ACCEPT CASH PRINTED BY 
THE GOVERNMENT OF CANADA.

This seems to be illegal, since it is the government who not only prints the
money, but even prints on the money, THIS NOTE IS LEGAL TENDER' 
in both English and French!!


I mean, do you mean to tell me that you actively check your Hydro 
>bill every single month to see if they're still accepting payments at 
>your particular bank or whatever?
>
>David



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On 26 Nov 2006 13:38:45 -0800, in alt.revisionism "NH"
 wrote:

Today it is taught in the schools that "Anti-Semitism" began in Germany
in the 1930s after which they were deported. What is not studied is the
fact that at one time or other the Jews have been expelled from every
nation in Europe! When the Jews first began to immigrate to America the
early colonialists in New York, Charleston and Savannah tried to ban
their entry. Benjamin Franklin pleaded with the members of the
Continental Congress to enter a specific ban against Jewish immigration
into the U. S. Constitution to bar them for all time to come.

The Jews claim that they are "only" a religion. The truth is that the
Jews are a RACE. Less than 30% are members of any Synagogue. Whether
they are Orthodox religious, atheists, capitalists or communists - they
still claim to be Jews - members of the Jewish race! Every race has
inherited traits. In the case of the Jews they include trading,
money-changing, usury, and a loathing for "productive labor" which is
scorned as beneath the dignity of the Jews in their "bible" called "THE
TALMUD."

The Jews have not changed since the days when Jesus Christ took up a
whip and drove "the money changers out of the Temple." Jews have always
united to form monopolies. Today they control all the department store
chains and speciality shops along with the lucrative jewelry and animal
fur trade. Jews dominate the fields of all precious metals such as
gold, silver, platinum, tin, lead, etc. They will always ban together
to drive Gentile competitors out of business.

Today America is being flooded with Jewish immigrants from Russia and
even 20,000 per year leave Israel for the U. S. - all with dollar signs
in their eyes. Jews have used their vaunted money-power to seize
control of the Democratic Party and constitute over 50% of all its
financial contributions. Today they are buying up more and more major
U. S. companies. While only 3% of the population, the Jews control over
25% of the nation's wealth and this percentage rises every year. They
are the only racial group totally organized to work for political
domination over America.

Opposition to the Jews did not begin in Germany but dates back before
the birth of Christ over 2,000 years ago! Study the statements made by
"The world's greatest men." They reveal why the "wandering Jews" have
made enemies out of every host country that ever accepted them.

CICERO (Marcus Tullius Cicero). First century B.C. Roman stateman,
writer.

    "Softly! Softly! I want none but the judges to hear me. The Jews
have already gotten me into a fine mess, as they have many other
gentleman. I have no desire to furnish further grist for their mills."
(Oration in Defense of Flaccus)


Cicero was serving as defense counsel at the trial of Flaccus, a Roman
official who interfered with Jewish gold shipments to their
international headquarters (then, as now) in Jerusalem. Cicero himself
certainly was not a nobody, and for one of this stature to have to
"speak softly" shows that he was in the presence of a dangerously
powerful sphere of influence.
and on another occasion Cicero wrote:

    "The Jews belong to a dark and repulsive force. One knows how
numerous this clique is, how they stick together and what power they
exercise through their unions. They are a nation of rascals and
deceivers."

SENECA (Lucius Annaeus Seneca). First century Roman philosopher.

    "The customs of that most criminal nation have gained such strength
that they have now been received in all lands. The conquered have given
laws to the conquerors." (De Superstitione)


DIO CASSIUS. Second century Roman historian. Describing the savage
Jewish uprising against the Roman empire that has been acknowledged as
the turning point downward in the course of that great state-form:

    "The Jews were destroying both Greeks and Romans. They ate the
flesh of their victims, made belts for themselves out of their
entrails, and daubed themselves with their blood... In all, 220,000 men
perished in Cyrene and 240,000 in Cyprus, and for this reason no Jew
may set foot in Cyprus today." (Roman History)


DIODORUS SICULUS. First century Greek historian.Observed that Jews
treated other people as enemies and inferiors.

    "Usury" is the practice of lending money at excessive interest
rates. This has for centuries caused great misery and poverty for
Gentiles. It has brought strong condemnation of the Jews!


BERNARDINO OF FELTRO. 15th century Italian priest. A mild man who
extolled patience and charity in normal circumstances, he described
himself as a "barking dog" when dealing with Jews:

    "Jewish usurers bleed the poor to death and grow fat on their
substance, and I who live on alms, who feed on the bread of the poor,
shall I then be mute before outraged charity? Dogs bark to protect
those who feed them, and I, who am feed by the poor, shall I see them
robbed of what belongs to them and keep silent?" (E. Flornoy, Le
Bienbeureux Bernardin the Feltre)


AQUINAS, THOMAS, Saint. 13th century scholastic philosopher. In his "On
the Governance of the Jews," he wrote:

    "The Jews should not be allowed to keep what they have obtained
>from others by usury; it were best that they were compelled to worked
so that they could earn their living instead of doing nothing but
becoming avaricious."


HILAIARE BELLOC, in the book THE JEWS, page 9

    "There is already something like a Jewish monopoly in high finance
... There is the same element of Jewish monopoly in the silver trade,
and in the control of various other metals, notably lead, nickel,
quicksilver. What is most disquieting of all, this tendency to monopoly
is spreading like a disease."


H. H. BEAMISH, in New York Speech, October 30, 1937

    "The Boer War occurred 37 years ago. Boer means farmer. Many
criticized a great power like Britain for trying to wipe out the Boers.
Upon making inquiry, I found all the gold and diamond mines of South
Africa were owned by Jews; that Rothschild controlled gold; Samuels
controlled silver, Baum controlled other mining, and Moses controlled
base metals. Anything these people touch they inevitably pollute."


W. HUGHES, Premier of Australia, Saturday Evening Post, June 19, 1919

    "The Montefiores have taken Australia for their own, and there is
not a gold field or a sheep run from Tasmania to New South Wales that
does not pay them a heavy tribute. They are the real owners of the
antipodean continent. What is the good of our being a wealthy nation,
if the wealth is all in the hands of German Jews?"


POPE CLEMENT VIII

    "All the world suffers from the usury of the Jews, their monopolies
and deceit. They have brought many unfortunate people into a state of
poverty, especially the farmers, working class people and the very
poor.
    Then as now Jews have to be reminded intermittently anew that they
were enjoying rights in any country since they left Palestine and the
Arabian desert, and subsequently their ethical and moral doctrines as
well as their deeds rightly deserve to be exposed to criticism in
whatever country they happen to live."


NESTA WEBSTER, In World Revolution, The Plot against Civilazation, page
163

    "Since the earliest times it is as the exploiter that the Jew has
been known amongst his fellow men of all races and creeds. Moreover, he
has persistently shown himself ungrateful... The Jews have always
formed a rebellious element in every state."


FRANZ LISZT, famed composer quoted in Col. E. N. Sanctuary's Are These
Things So?, page 278

    "The day will come when all nations amidst which the Jews are
dwelling will have to raise the question of their wholesale expulsion,
a question which will be one of life or death, good health or chronic
disease, peaceful existence or perpetual social fever."


JESUS CHRIST, speaking to the Jews in the Gospel of St. John, VIII:44

    "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lust of your father ye
will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the
truth, because there is not truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he
speaketh of his own: for he is a liar and the father of it. - then
answered the Jews - "

(which makes it clear that Christ was addressing the Jews.)

MARTIN LUTHER, Table Talk of Martin Luther, translated by William
Hazlet, page 43

    "But the Jews are so hardened that they listen to nothing; though
overcome by testimonies they yield not an inch. It is a pernicious
race, oppressing all men by their usury and rapine. If they give a
prince or magistrate a thousand florins, they extort twenty thousand
>from the subjects in payment. We must ever keep on guard against them."


REV. GORDON WINROD, in his book The Keys to Christian Understanding,
pages 114 - 115

    "Judaism does not know Jesus Christ. Judaism hates Jesus Christ.
When St. Paul was in Judaism, before he was converted to Christianity,
he hated Jesus Christ and persecuted Christians and Christianity."
    Paul said: "You have heard of my earlier career in Judaism - how
furiously I persecuted the Church of God, and made havoc of it; and how
in devotion to Judaism I out-stripped many men of may own age among my
people, being far more zealous than they for the tradition of my
forefathers." (Gal. 1:13, 14, Weymouth Translation)

While in Judaism, Paul persecuted Christians because of his intense
hatred for Christians and because of his conformity to the tradition of
the fathers. This shows that the tradition of teachings of Judaism are
filled with hate for Christians.
Few people know of this because they do not carefully read their
Scriptures and because of the great pains which Jews have take to
deceive the Christians. Care has been exerted by the Jews to hide their
ECONOMIC-POLITICAL conspiracy for complete world domination UNDER high
sounding words that have a "RELIGIOUS" ring in the ears of Christians.
The Jews use such "religious" sounding words as "the Jewish faith,"
"the Jewish religion," "Jewish spiritual values," "Jewish religious
doctrines," and like phrases which deceive and lead the unlearned into
total equanimity.
Behind this mask of religiosity stands a complete plan for world
government, world power, world conquest, a Jewish kingdom of this
world, and the destruction of Christianity.

REV. WILLIAM S. MITCHELL of Philadelphia, quoted in Count
Cherep-Spiridovich's book The Secret World Government, page 194

    "If there is an ingrate in history, it is the Jew. In this land
which befriended him he as conspired, plotted, undermined, prostituted
and corrupted and (hiding to this hour behind the braver screen of
other folks), dares to contrive and scheme the death of every Christian
principle which has protected him."


ST. JUSTIN, martyr stated in 116 A. D.

    "The Jews were behind all the persecutions of the Christians. They
wandered through the country everywhere hating and undermining the
Christian faith."


ST. JOHN, Gospel of St. John VII:1

    "After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk
in Jewry because the Jews sought to kill him."


M. H. DE HEEKELINGEN, in Israel: Son Passe, Son Avenir

    "The former Rabbi Drach, converted to Catholicism, says that the
Talmud contains "a large number of musing, utterly ridiculous
extravagancies, most revolting indecencies, and, above all, the most
horrible blasphemies against everything which the Christian religion
holds most sacred and most dear."
    "In the matter of the translation of the Talmud by non-Jews, we
have always preferred that of Luzsensky, whose accuracy has been
established by the Courts. In 1923, the Public Prosecutor of Hungary
caused his Hungarian Talmud to be seized on account of "attack on
public morals" and "pornography." In delivering its verdict, the Court
declared 'INTER ALIA:'
    "The horrors contained in the translation of Alfred Luzsensky are
to be found, without exception, in the Talmud. His translation is
correct, in that it renders these passages, which are actually to be
found in the original text of the Talmud, after their true meaning."
    QUINTAS SPETIMUS FLORENS TERTULLIAN (160 - 230 A. D.) Latin Church
Father "The Jews formed the breeding ground of all anti-Christian
actions."


REV. MARTIN LUTHER, sermon at Eisleben, a few days before his death,
February, 1546

    "Besides, you also have many Jews living in the country, who do
much harm... You should know the Jews blaspheme and violate the name of
our Savior day for day... for that reason you, Milords and men of
authority, should not tolerate but expel them. They are our public
enemies and incessantly blaspheme our Lord Jesus Christ, they call our
Blessed Virgin Mary a harlot and her Holy Son a bastard and to us they
give the epithet of changelings and abortions.
    Therefore deal with them harshly as they do nothing but
excruciatingly blaspheme our Lord Jesus Christ, trying to rob us of our
lives, our health, our honor and belongings."


MARIA THERESA, Queen of Hungary and Bohemia (1771 - 1789)

    "Henceforth no Jew, no matter under what name, will be allowed to
remain here without my written permission. I know of no other
troublesome pest within the state than this race, which impoverished
the people by their fraud, usury and money-lending and commits all
deeds which an honorable man despises. Subsequently they have to be
removed and excluded from here as much as possible."



(The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia states that "The Talmud is the real
"bible" of the Jews and that it supersedes the Old Testament. This
volume has been condemned down through the ages for preaching hatred
for Christ and all Christians. Read "THE TALMUD UNMASKED" for the full
shocking details.)

DIDEROT, DENIS. 18th century French scholar. His famous ENCYCLOPEDIE,
the bible of the pre-revolutionary French "enlightenment," has often
been complained of by Jewish writers as 'anti-Semitic.' Some of
Diderot's other writings are likewise unfriendly:

    "And you, angry and brutish people, vile and vulgar men, slaves
worthy of the yoke [Talmudism] which you bear ... Go, take back your
books and remove yourselves from me. (LA MOISADE)
    [The Talmud] taught the Jews to steal the goods of Christians, to
regard them as savage beasts, to push them over the precipice ... to
kill them with impunity and to utter every morning the most horrible
imprecations against them. (JUIFS)


NASTA WEBSTER, in Secret Societies and Subversive Movements, page 370

    "The Jewish conception of the Jews as the Chosen People who must
eventually rule the world forms indeed the basis of Rabbinical
Judaism... The Jewish religion now takes its stand on the Talmud rather
than on the Bible."


F. TROCASE, in Jewish Austria

    "No obstacle discourages them; they persevere throughout the world,
throughout the centuries, the unity of their race. The Talmud has given
them a powerful organization which modern progress has been unable to
change. Deep, ineradicable hatred of everything that is not Jewish
stimulates them in war which they wage against Christian Society, which
is too divided to be able to fight with the necessary energy."


COUNT HELMUTH VON MOLTKE, Prussian general

    "The Jews form a state, and, obeying their own laws, they evade
those of their host country.
    The Jews always consider an oath regarding a Christian not binding.
During the Campaign of 1812 the Jews were spies, they were paid by both
sides, they betrayed both sides."


MOHAMMED, in the Koran

    "Whoever is a friend of a Jew, belong to them, becomes one of them,
God cannot tolerate this mean people. The Jews have wandered from
divine religion. You must not relent in your work which must show up
Jewish deceit."


BACON, FRANCIS. 16th century British writer, politician. In his The New
Atlantis, he remarked that Jews

    "hate the name of Christ and have a secret and innate rancor
against the people among whom they live."

He also disapproved of non-Jewish usurers as "Judaizers" who would wear
"tawny bonnets" like Jews.

LUTHER, MARTIN. 16th century German religious reformer.

    "They are the real liars and bloodhounds, who have not only
perverted and falsified the entire Scriptures from beginning to end and
without ceasing with their interpretations. And all of the anxious
sighing, longing and hoping of their hearts is directed to the time
when some day they would like to deal with us heathen as they dealt
with the heathen in Persia at the time of Esther... On how they love
the book of Esther, which so nicely agrees with their bloodthirsty,
revengeful and murderous desire and hope. (1)
    The sun never did shine on a more bloodthirsty and revengeful
people as they, who imagine to be the people of God, and who desire to
and think they must murder and crush the heathen. And the foremost
undertaking which they expect of their Messiah is that he should slay
and murder the whole world with the sword. As they at first
demonstrated against us Christians and would like to do now, if they
only could; have also tried it often and have been repeatedly struck on
their snouts...
    Their breath stinks for the gold and silver of the heathen; since
no people under the sun always have been, still are, and always will
remain more avaricious than they, as can be noticed in their cursed
usury. They also find comfort with this: "When the Messiah comes, He
shall take all the gold and silver in the world and distribute it among
the Jews. (2) Thus, wherever they can direct Scripture to their
insatiable avarice, they wickedly do so.
    Therefore know, my dear Christians, that next to the Devil, you
have no more bitter, more poisonous, more vehement and enemy than a
real Jew who earnestly desires to be a Jew. There may be some among
them who believe what the cow or the goose believes. But all of them
are surrounded with their blood and circumcision. In history,
therefore, they are often accused of poisoning wells, stealing children
and mutilating them; as in Trent, Weszensee and the like. Of course
they deny this. Be it so or not, however, I know full well that the
ready will is not lacking with them if they could only transform it
into deeds, in secret or openly. (3)
    A person who does not know the Devil, might wonder why they are so
at enemity with the Christians above all others; for which they have no
reason, since we only do good to them.
    They live among us in our homes, under our protection, use land and
highways, market and streets. Princes and government sit by, snore and
have their maws open, let the Jews take from their purse and chest,
steal and rob whatever they will. That is, they permit themselves and
their subjects to be abused and sucked dry and reduced to beggars with
their own money, through the usury of the Jews. For the Jews, as
foreigners, certainly should have nothing from us; and what they have
certainly must be ours. They do not work, do not earn anything from us,
neither do we donate or give it to them. Yet they have our money and
goods and are lords in our land where they are supposed to be in exile!
    If a thief steals ten gulden he must hang; if he robs people on the
highway, his head is gone. But a Jew, when he steals ten tons of gold
through his usury is dearer than God himself!
    Do not their TALMUD and rabbis write that it is no sin to kill if a
Jew kills a heathen, but it is a sin if he kills a brother in Israel?
It is no sin if he does not keep his oath to a heathen. Therefore, to
steal and rob (as they do with their moneylending) from a heathen, is a
divine service... And they are the masters of the world and we are
their servants - yea, their cattle!
    I maintain that in three fables of Aesop there is more wisdom to be
found than in all the books of the Talmudists and rabbis and more than
ever could come into the hearts of the Jews...
    Should someone think I am saying too much - I am saying much too
little! For I see in [their] writings how they curse us Goyim and wish
as all evil in their schools and prayers. They rob us of our money
through usury, and wherever they are able, they play us all manner of
mean tricks... No heathen has done such things and none would to so
except the Devil himself and those whom he possesses - as he possesses
the Jews.
    Burgensis, who was a very learned rabbi among them and by the grace
of God became a Christian (which seldom occurs), is much moved that in
their schools they so horribly curse us Christians (as Lyra also
writes) and from that draws the conclusion that they must not be the
people of God.
    Now behold what a nice, thick, fat lie it is when they complain
about being captives among us! Jerusalem was destroyed more than 1,400
years ago during that time we Christians have been tortured and
persecuted by the Jews in all the world. On top of that, we do not know
to this day what Devil brought them into our country. We did not fetch
them from Jerusalem!... Yes, we have and hold them captive, as I would
like to keep my rheumatism, and all other diseases and misfortunes, who
must wait as a poor servant, with money and property and everything I
have! I wish they were in Jerusalem with the other Jews and whomsoever
they would like to have with them.

    Now what are we going to do with these rejected, condemned Jewish
people?... Let us apply the ordinary wisdom of other nations like
France, Spain, Bohemia, et al., who made them give an account of what
they had stolen through usury, and divided it evenly; but expelled them
>from their country;. For as heard before, God's wrath is so great over
them that through soft mercy they only become more wicked, through hard
treatment, however, only a little better. Therefore, away with them!
    How much more unbearable it is that we should permit the entire
Christendom and all of us to be bought with our own money, be slandered
and cursed by the Jews, who on top of all that be made rich and our
lords, who laugh us to scorn and are tickled by their audacity!
    What a joyful affair that would be for the Devil and his angels,
and cause them to laugh through their snouts like a sow grinning at her
little pigs, but deserving real wrath before God. (From THE JEWS AND
THEIR LIES)
    Maybe mild-hearted and gentle Christians will believe that I am too
rigorous and drastic against the poor, afflicted Jews, believing that I
ridicule them and treat them with much sarcasm. By my word, I am far
too weak to be able to ridicule such a satanic brood. I would fain to
do so, but they are far greater adepts at mockery than I and possess a
god who is master in this art. It is the Evil One himself.
    Even with no further evidence than the Old Testament, I would
maintain, and no person on earth could alter my opinion, that the Jews
as they are today are veritably a mixture of all the depraved and
malevolent knaves of the whole world over, who have then been dispersed
in all countries, similarly to the Tartars, Gypsies and such folk."


WASHINGTON, GEORGE, in Maxims of George Washington by A. A. Appleton &
Co.

    "They (the Jews) work more effectively against us, than the enemy's
armies. They are a hundred times more dangerous to our liberties and
the great cause we are engaged in... It is much to be lamented that
each state, long ago, has not hunted them down as pest to society and
the greatest enemies we have to the happiness of America."



This prophecy, by Benjamin Franklin, was made in a "CHIT CHAT AROUND
THE TABLE DURING INTERMISSION," at the Philadelphia Constitutional
Convention of 1787. This statement was recorded in the dairy of Charles
Cotesworth Pinckney, a delegate from South Carolina.

    "I fully agree with General Washington, that we must protect this
young nation from an insidious influence and impenetration. The menace,
gentlemen, is the Jews.
    In whatever country Jews have settled in any great number, they
have lowered its moral tone; depreciated its commercial integrity; have
segregated themselves and have not been assimilated; have sneered at
and tried to undermine the Christian religion upon which that nation is
founded, by objecting to its restrictions; have built up a state within
the state; and when opposed have tried to strangle that country to
death financially, as in the case of Spain and Portugal.
    For over 1,700 years, the Jews have been bewailing their sad fate
in that they have been exiled from their homeland, as they call
Palestine. But gentlemen, did the world give it to them in fee simple,
they would at once find some reason for not returning. Why? Because
they are vampires, and vampires do not live on vampires. They cannot
live only among themselves. They must subsist on Christians and other
people not of their race.
    If you do not exclude them from these United States, in their
Constitution, in less than 200 years they will have swarmed here in
such great numbers that they will dominate and devour the land and
change our form of government, for which we Americans have shed our
blood, given our lives our substance and jeopardized our liberty.
    If you do not exclude them, in less than 200 years our descendants
will be working in the fields to furnish them substance, while they
will be in the counting houses rubbing their hands. I warn you,
gentlemen, if you do not exclude Jews for all time, your children will
curse you in your graves.
    Jews, gentlemen, are Asiatics, let them be born where they will nor
how many generations they are away from Asia, they will never be
otherwise. Their ideas do not conform to an American's, and will not
even thou they live among us ten generations. A leopard cannot change
its spots. Jews are Asiatics, are a menace to this country if permitted
entrance, and should be excluded by this Constitutional Convention.


STYVESANT, PETER. 17th century Dutch governor in America.

    "The Jews who have arrived would nearly all like to remain here,
but learning that they (with their customary usury and deceitful
trading with the Christians) were very repugnant to the inferior
magistrates, as also to the people having the most affection for you;
the Deaconry also fearing that owing to their present indigence they
might become a charge in the coming winter, we have, for the benefit of
this weak newly developing place and land in general, deemed it useful
to require them in a friendly way to depart; praying also most
seriously in this connection, for ourselves also for the general
community of your worships, that the deceitful race - such hateful
enemies and blasphemers of the name of Christ - not be allowed further
to infect and trouble this new colony. (Letter to the Amsterdam Chamber
of the Dutch West India Company, from New Amsterdam, September 22,
1654.)

The Jews whom he attempted to oust merely applied to their fellow Jews
in Holland, and the order came back from the Company countermanding the
expulsion. (For a similar situation during the Civil War, see ULYSSES
GRANT). Among the reasons given by "their worships" for over-ruling
their governor, one stands out rather glaringly, in view of the usual
Jewish contention that their people were 'poor and persecuted:' "
...and also because of the large amount of capital which they have
invested in shares of this Company." (Harry Golden and Martin Rywell,
THE JEWS IN AMERICAN HISTORY)
THE GEORGIA COLONY IN AMERICA. On January 5, 1734, the trustees ordered
that three Jews who had been sending correligionists into the colony
without authorization "use their endeavors that the said Jews may be
removed from the Colony of Georgia, as the best and only satisfaction
that they can give to the Trustees for such an indignity offered to
Gentlemen acting under His Majesty's Charter." (C. Jones, HISTORY OF
SAVANNAH)

JEFFERSON, THOMAS. 18th century American statesman.

    "Dispersed as the Jews are, they still form one nation, foreign to
the land they live in. " (D. Boorstin, THE AMERICANS)
    "Those who labor in the earth are the Chosen People of God, if ever
he had a chosen people. " (NOTES ON VIRGINIA)


BEAMISH, HENRY H. 20th century British publisher.

    "There is no need to be delicate on this Jewish question. You must
face them in this country. The Jew should be satisfied here. I was here
forty-seven years ago; your doors were thrown open and you were then
free. Now he has got you absolutely by the throat - that is their
reward. " (New York speech, October 30, 1937)


HARRINGTON, LORD. 19th century British statesman. Opposed admission of
Jewish immigrants to England because:

    "They are the great moneylenders and loan contractors of the
world... The consequence is that the nations of the world are groaning
under heavy systems of taxation and national debt. They have ever been
the greatest enemies of freedom. (Speech in the House of Lords, July
12, 1858)


WALTER CRICK, British Manufacturer, in the NORTHAMPTON DAILY ECHO,
March 19. 1925)

    "Jews can destroy by means of finance. Jews are International.
Control of credits in this country is not in the hands of the English,
but of Jews. It has become the biggest danger the British Empire ever
had to face."


WORLD FAMOUS MEN of the past accused the Jews of founding Communism.
This charge is well founded. The Communist philosopy was drawn up by
Karl Marx who descended from a long line of Rabbis. His ideology of
anti-Christian and Socialist thought is outlined in the Jewish "TALMUD"
which is the "bible" of the Jews. Of the four political groups which
overthrew the Christan Czar of Russia two were 100% Jewish. They were
the Mensheviks and The Jewish Bund. The other two were the Socialist
Revolutionary Party and the Bolsheviks. Both were headed by Jews but
had some Gentile members. Today we now know that Lenin was Jewish and
all of the leaders of his first government were Jews. They were
Trotsky, Zinoviev, Kamenev and Sverdlow. The wealthiest Jewish banker
in the world at that time, Jacob Schiff of Kuhn, Loeb investment bank
of New York City, gave Trotsky and Lenin $20 million to overthrow the
Czar and establish the Soviet tyranny (according to the "NEW YORK
JOURNAL-AMERICAN" of February 3, 1949.)

CHURCHILL, WINSTON. 20th century British politician. In 1920, he wrote
a long newspaper article of the recent Bolshevik seizure of Russia.
After praising what he called the "national Jews" of Russia, he said:

    "In violent opposition to all this sphere of Jewish efforts rise
the schemes of the International Jews. The adherents of this sinister
confederacy are mostly men reared up among the unhappy populations of
countries where Jews are persecuted on account of their race. Most, if
not all, of them have forsaken the faith of their forefathers, and
divorced from their minds all spiritual hopes of the next world. This
movement among the Jews is not new. From the days of
Spartacus-Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky
(Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxemburg (Germany), and Emma
Goldman (United States), this world-wide revolutionary conspiracy for
the overthrow of civilization and for the reconstitution of society on
the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and
impossible equality, has been steadily growing. It played, as a modern
writer, Mrs. Webster has ably shown, a definite recognizable part in
the tragedy of the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of
every subversive movement during the Nineteenth Century; and now at
last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworlds of
the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people
by the hair of their heads and have become practically the undisputed
masters of the enormous empire.
    There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creating of
Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution
by these international and for the most part atheistic Jews. It is
certainly the very great one; it probably outweighs all others. With
the notable exception of Lenin, the majority of the leading figures are
Jews. Moreover, the principal inspiration and driving power comes from
the Jewish leaders... In the Soviet institutions the predominance of
Jews is even more astounding. And the prominent if not the principal
part in the system of terrorism applied by the extraordinary
Commissions for combating Counter Revolution has been take by Jews, and
in some notable cases by Jewesses. The same evil prominence was
obtained by Jews in the brief period of terror during which Bela Kun
ruled in Hungary. The same phenomenon has been presented in Germany
(especially Bavaria), so far as this madness has been allowed to prey
upon the temporary prostration of the German people. Although in all
these countries there are many nonJews every whit as bad as the worst
of the Jewish revolutionaries, the part played by the latter in
proportion to their numbers in the population is astonishing. ("Zionism
versus Bolshevism: A Struggle for the Soul of the Jewish People."
ILLUSTRATED SUNDAY HERALD, London, February 8, 1920.)


BAKUNYIN, MIKHYL. 19th century Russian revolutionary.

    "Marx is a Jew and is surrounded by a crowd of little, more or less
intelligent, scheming, agile, speculating Jews, just as Jews are
everywhere, commercial and banking agents, writers, politicians,
correspondents for newspapers of all shades; in short, literary
brokers, just as they are financial brokers, with one foot in the bank
and the other in the socialist movement, and their arses sitting upon
the German press. They have grabbed hold of all newspapers, and you can
imagine what a nauseating literature is the outcome of it.
    Now this entire Jewish world, which constitutes an exploiting sect,
a people of leeches, a voracious parasite, Marx feels an instinctive
inclination and a great respect for the Rothschilds. This may seem
strange. What could there be in common between communism and high
finance? Ho ho! The communism of Marx seeks a strong state
centralization, and where this exists there must inevitably exist a
state central bank, and where this exists, there the parasitic Jewish
nation, which speculates upon the labor of the people, will always find
the means for its existence...
    In reality, this would be for the proletariat a barrack regime,
under which the workingmen and the working closely and intimately
connected with one another, regarless not only of frontiers but of
political differences as well - this Jewish world is today largely at
the disposal of Marx or Rothschil. I am sure that, on the one hand, the
Rothschilds appreciate the merits of Marx, and that on the other hand,
women, converted into a uniform mass, would rise, fall asleep, work and
live at the beat of the drum; the privilege of ruling would be in the
hands of the skilled and the learned, with a wide scope left for
profitable crooked deals carried on by the Jews, who would be attracted
by the enormous extension of the international speculations of the
national banks... (Polémique contres les Juifs)

This startling piece of prediction is particularly impressive to those
who have observed the Soviet scene and notice its strange relationship
with capitalist financiers - overwhelmingly Jewish - since the
revolution. The line runs from Olof Aschberg, self-described "Bolshevik
banker" who ferried to Trotsky the huge sums raised for the revolution
by financiers in Europe and America, to Armand Hammer in the 1970s, who
has specialized in multimillion-dollar trade concessions with the now
supposedly 'anti-Semitic' commissars.

WILHELM II. German Kaiser.

    "A Jew cannot be a true patriot. He is something different, like a
bad insect. He must be kept apart, out of a place where he can do
mischief - even by pogroms, if necessary.
    The Jews are responsible for Bolshevism in Russia, and Germany too.
I was far too indulgent with them during my reign, and I bitterly
regret the favors I showed the prominent Jewish bankers." (CHICAGO
TRIBUNE, July 2, 1922)


CARDINAL MINDSZENTY, of Hungary quoted in B'nai B'rith Messenger,
January 28, 1949

    "The troblemakers in Hungary are the Jews... they demoralize our
country and they are the leaders of the revolutionary gang that is
torturing Hungary."


ADRIEN ARCAND, New York speech, October 30, 1937

    "When it came to Mexico, the promoters of Communism were the Jews
Calles, Hubermann and Aaron Saenz; in Spain we saw Azaña and
Rosenberg; in Hungary we saw Bela Kun, Szamuelly, Agoston and dozen
other Jews; in Bavaria, we saw Kurt Eisner and a host of other Jews; in
Belgium Marxian Socialism brought to power Vadervelde alias Epstein,
and Paul Hymans, two Jews; in France, Marxian Socialism brought forth
the Jews Leon Blum (who showed so well his Jewish instincts in his
filthy book Du Mariarge), Mandel, Zyromsky, Danain and a whole tribe of
them; in Italy we had seen the Jews Nathan and Claudio Treves.
Everywhere, Marxism brings Jews on the top - And this is no hazard."


HILAIRE BELLOC, renown historian in G. K.'s WEEKLY, February 4, 1937

    "The propaganda of Communism throughout the world, in organization
and direction is in the hands of Jewish agents. As for anyone who does
not know that the Bolshevist movement in Russia is Jewish, I can only
say that he must be a man who is taken in by the suppression of our
deplorable press."


A. HOMER, writes in Judaism and Bolshevism, page 7

    "History shows that the Jew has always been, by nature, a
revolutionary and that, since the dispersion of his race in the second
century, he has either initiated or assisted revolutionary movements in
religion, politics and finance, which weakened the power of the States
wherein he dwelt. On the other hand, a few far-seeing members of that
race have always been at hand to reap financial and political advantage
coincident with such upheavals."


CAPTAIN MONTGOMERY SCHYLER, American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia, in
a military intelligence report dated March 1, 1919, to Lt. Col. Barrows
in Vladivostok

    "It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the United States but
the Bolshevik movement is and has been since its beginning guided and
controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type, who have been in the
United States and there absorbed every one of the worst phases of our
civilization without having the least understanding of what we really
mean by liberty."


MRS. CLARE SHERIDAN, Traveler, Lecturer in NEW YORK WORLD, December 15,
1923

    "The Communists are Jews, and Russia is being entirely administered
by them. They are in every government office, bureau and newspaper.
They are driving out the Russians and are responsible for the
anti-Semitic feeling which is increasing."


MAJOR ROBERT H. WILLIAMS, in Fecp and the Minority Machine, page 10

    "B'nai B'rith, the secret Jewish fraternity, was organized in 1843,
awakening world Jewish aspirations, or Zionism, and its name, meaning
"Sons of the Covenant," suggests that the 12 men who organized the
fraternity aimed at bringing about the fulfillment of "the Covenant,"
or the supposed Messianic promise of rulership over all peoples. To
rule all peoples, it is first necessary to bring them together in a
world federation or world government - which is the avowed aim of both
Communists and Zionists."


VLADIMIR, LENIN, Founder of Bolshevik Communist (From an article in
Northern Pravda, October-December 1913, qouted in Lenin on the Jewish
Question, page 10)

    "There the great universally progressive features of Jewish culture
have made themselves clearly felt: its internationalism, its
responsiveness of the advanced movements of our times (the percentage
of Jews in democratic and proletarian movements is everywhere higher
than the percentage of Jews in the general population.)
    ...Those Jewish Marxists who join up in the international Marxist
organizations with the Russian, Lithuanian, Ukrainian and other
workers, adding their might (both in Russian and in Jewish) to the
creation of an international culture of the working class movement, are
continuing the best traditions of Jewry."


JOSEPH STALIN in a reply given on January 12, 1931 to an enquiry made
by the Jewish Telegraphic Agency of America (Stars and Sand, page 316)

    "Anti-Semitism is dangerous for the toilers, for it is a false
track which diverts them from the proper road and leads them into the
jungle. Hence, Communists, as consistent internationalists, cannot but
be irreconcilable and bitter enemies of anti-Semitism. In the U.S.S.R.,
anti-Semitism is strictly prosecuted as a phenomenon hostile to the
Soviet system. According to the laws of the U.S.S.R. active
anti-Semites are punished with death."


HENRY FORD in (The Dearborn Independent, 12-19 February 1921

    "Jews have always controlled the business... The motion picture
influence of the United States and Canada... is exclusively under the
control, moral and financial, of the Jewish manipulators of the public
mind."


M. OUDENDYK, the Netherlands' Minister to Petrograd on September 6,
1918, to the British Government, published in the unexpurgated edition
of A Collection of Reports on Bolshevism in Russia, April, 1919

    "...I consider that the immediate suppression of Bolshevism is the
greatest issue before the World, not even excluding the war which is
till raging, and unless, as above stated, Bolshevism is nipped in the
bud immediately, it is bound to spread in one form or another over
Europe and the whole World, as it is organized and worked by Jews who
have no nationality, and whose one object is to destroy for their own
ends the existing order of things."


A. N. FIELD, in Today's Greatest Problem

    "Once the Jewishness of Bolshevism is understood, its otherwise
puzzling features become understandable. Hatred of Christianity, for
instance, is not a Russian characteristic; it is a Jewish one."


FATHER DENIS FAHEY; in his book The Rulers of Russia, page 25

    "The real forces behind Bolshevism is Russia are Jewish forces, and
Bolshevism is really an instrument in the hands of the Jews for the
establishment of their future Messianic kingdom."


A. N. FIELD, The Truth About the Slump, page 208

    "The World today, however provides a spectacle of a great
concentration of Jewish power. In New York there is a concentration of
Jewish financial power dominating the entire world in its material
affairs, and side by side with it is the greates physical concentration
of the Jews ever recorded. On the other side of the globe, there has
taken place in Russia the greatest concentration of the Jewish
revolutionary activity in all history...
    The enormously significant thing in the world today is that both
this power of the purse (Theodor Herzl's "terrible (Jewish) power of
the purse") and revolutionary activity are working in the direction of
destroying the entire existing order of things, and not only are they
working in a common direction, but there is a mass of evidence that
they are working in unison."


H. H. BEAMISH, N.Y. speech, 1937

    "Communism is Judaism. The Jewish Revolution in Russia was in
1918."


HILARY COTTER, author of Cardinal Minszenty, The Truth About His Real
"Crime," page 6

    "Communism and Judaism are one and the same."


ADRIEN ARCAND, Canadian political leader in New York Speech, October
30, 1937

    "There is nothing else in Communism - a Jewish conspiracy to grab
the whole world in their clutches; and no intelligent man in the world
can find anything else, except the Jews, who rightly call it for
themselves a "paradise on earth."

    Jews are eager to bring Communism, because they know what it is and
what it means.
    It is because Communism has not been fought for what it really is -
a Jewish scheme invented by Jews - that it has progressed against all
opposition to it. We have fought the smoke-screen presented by Jewish
dialecticians and publicists, refusing to fight the inventor, profiteer
and string-puller. Because Christians and Gentiles have come to fear
the Jews, fear the truth, and they are paralyzed by the paradoxical
slogans shouted by the Jews."
    REV. KENNETH GOFF, in STILL 'TIS OUR ANCIENT FOE, page 99 "The
Frankenstein of Communism is the product of the Jewish mind, and was
turned loose upon the world by the son of a Rabbi, Karl Marx, in the
hopes of destroying Christian civilization - as well as others. The
testimony given before the Senate of the United States which is take
>from the many pages of the Overman Report, reveals beyond a shadow of a
doubt that Jewish bankers financed the Russian Revolution."


POPES, ROMAN CATHOLIC.

SYLVESTER I. Condemned Jewish anti-Christian activity.

GREGORY I ('The Great'). Protested wholesale circumcision of Christian
slaves by Jewish traders, who monopolized the slave trade in Europe and
the Middle East and were widely suspected of supplying white girls to
Oriental and African buyers.

GREGORY VIII. Forbade Jews to have power over Christians, in a letter
to Alfonso VI of Castile.

GREGORY IX. Condemned the TALMUD as containing "every kind of vileness
and blasphemy against Christian doctrine."

BENEDICT XIII. His Bull on the Jewish issue (1450) declared:

    "The heresies, vanities and errors of the TALMUD prevent their
knowing the truth."

JULIUS III. Contra Hebreos retinentes libros (1554) ordered the TALMUD
burned "everywhere" and established a strict censorship over Jewish
genocidal writings - an order that has never been rescinded and which
presumably is still binding upon Catholics.

PAUL IV. Cum nimis absurdim (1555) promulgated immediately after his
coronation, was a powerful condemnation of Jewish usury. It embodies a
model legal code to curb Jewish power that was recommended to all
communities.

PIUS IV. Condemned Jewish genocidal writings.

PIUS V. Hebraeorum gens (1569) expelled all Jews from the Papal States.

GREGORY XIII. Declared that Jews

    "continue to plot horrible crimes" against Christians "with daily
increasing audacity."

CLEMENT VIII. Condemned Jewish genocidal writings.

ALEXANDER VIII. Condemned Jewish genocidal writings.

BENEDICT XIV. Quo Primum 1751) denounced Jewish control of commerce and
"systematical despoliation" of the Christian through usury.

PIUS VII. Known generally as an 'anti-Semite' by Jewish writers.

BENEDICT XV. Warned, in 1920, against

    "the advent of a Universal Republic which is longed for by all the
worst elements of disorder."

This is resented by some Jews because of their active sponsorship and
direction of such projects as the League of Nations and United Nations.
- And in effect, all Popes who have issued editions of the Index
Expurgatorius, in which Jewish genocidal and anti-Christian writings
are condemned, according to the instructions of the Council of Trent.


GRANT, USYSSES S. 19th century American general, politician. While in
command of the 13th Army Corps, headquartered at Oxford, Mississippi,
he became so infuriated at Jewish camp-followers attempting to
penetrate the conquered territory that he finally attempted to expel
the Jews:

    "I have long since believed that in spite of all the vigilance that
can be infused into post commanders, the special regulations of the
Treasury Department have been violated, and that mostly by Jews and
other unprincipled traders. So well satisfied have I been of this that
I instructed the commanding officers at Columbus to refuse all permits
to Jews to come South, and I have frequently had them expelled from the
department, but they come in with their carpet-sacks in spite of all
that can be done to prevent it. The Jews seem to be a privileged class
that can travel anywhere. They will land at any woodyard on the river
and make their way through the country. If not permitted to buy cotton
themselves, they will act as agents for someone else, who will be at
military post with a Treasury permit to receive cotton and pay for it
in Treasury notes which the Jew will buy up at an agreed rate, paying
gold. (Letters to C. P. Wolcott, assistant secretary of war,
Washington, December 17, 1862)
    1. The Jews, as a class, violating every regulation of trade
established by the Treasury Department, and also Department orders, are
hereby expelled from the Department.
    2. Within twenty-four hours from the receipt of this order by Post
Commanders, they will see that all of this class of people are
furnished with passes and required to leave, and anyone returning after
such notification, will be arrested and held in confinement until an
opportunity occurs of sending them out as prisoners, unless furnished
with permits from these headquarters.
    3. No permits will be given these people to visit headquarters for
the purpose of making personal application for trade permits.
    By order of Major Gen. Grant Jno. A. Rawlings, Assistant Adjutant
General (General Order Number 11, December 17, 1862)


The expulsion order was immediately countermanded by the
general-in-chief, H. W. Halleck, in Washington. Apparently the expelled
Jews had immediately contacted their kinsmen there and had pressure
brought to bear.

SHERMAN, WILLIAM T. 19th century American soldier. In a letter from
Union-occupied Memphis, July 30, 1862, he wrote:

    "I found so many Jews and speculators here trading in cotton, and
secessionists had become so open in refusing anything but gold, that I
have felt myself bound to stop it. The gold can have but one use - the
purchase of arms and ammunition... Of course, I have respected all
permits by yourself or the Secretary of the Treasury, but in these new
cases (swarms of Jews), I have stopped it." (The Sherman Letters)


ROSS, L. F. 19th century American military man. As did Generals ULYSSES
S. GRANT and WILLIAM T. SHERMAN, Ross confronted Jewish 'carpetbagging'
cotton traders preying upon captured Confederate areas during the Civil
War. In a letter to General John A. McClernand, he wrote:

    "The cotton speculators are quite clamorous for aid in the getting
their cotton away from Middleburg, Hickory Valley, etc., and offer to
pay liberally for the service. I think I can bring it away with safety,
and make it pay to the Government. As some of the Jew owners have as
good as stolen the cotton from the planters, I have no conscientious
scruples in making them pay liberally to take it away."


OLMSTED, GREDERICK LAW. 19th century American architect, historian.

    "A swarm of Jews has, within the last ten years, settled in every
Southern town, many of them men of no character, opening cheap clothing
and trinket shops, ruining or driving out of business many of the old
retailers, and engaging in an unlawful trade with the simple Negroes,
which is found very profitable. (The Cotton Kingdom. For other views on
Jewish involvement in exploiting the South, see ULYSSES S. GRANT and
MARK TWAIN.)


TWAIN, MARK (S. L. Clemens). 19th century American writer.

    "In the U.S. cotton states, after the war... the Jew came down in
force, set up shop on the plantation, supplied all the Negroes' wants
on credit, and at the end of the season was the proprietor of the
Negro's share of the present crop and part of the next one. Before
long, the whites detested the Jew. (1)
    The Jew is being legislated out of Russia. The reason is not
concealed. The movement was instituted because the Christian peasant
stood no chance against his commercial abilities. The Jew was always
ready to lend on a crop. When settlement day came, he owned the crop;
the next year he owned the farm - like Joseph. (2)
    In the England of John's time everybody got into debt to the Jew.
He gathered all lucrative enterprises into his hands. He was the King
of Commerce. He had to be banished from the realm. For like reasons,
Spain had to banish him 400 years ago, and Austria a couple of
centuries later.
    In all ages Christian Europe has been obliged to curtail his
activities. If he entered upon a trade, the Christian had to retire
>from it. If he set up as a doctor, he took the business. If he
exploited agriculture, the other farmers had to get at something else.
The law had to step in to save the Christian from the poor-house.
Still, almost bereft of employments, he found ways to make money. Even
to get rich. This history has a most sordid and practical commercial
look. Religious prejudices may account for one part of it, bit not for
the other nine.
    Protestants have persecuted Catholics - but they did not take their
livelihoods away from them. Catholics have persecuted Protestants - bit
they never closed agriculture and the handicrafts against them. I feel
convinced that the Crucifixion has not much to do with the world's
attitude toward the Jew; that the reasons for it are much older than
that event ...
    I am convinced that the persecution of the Jew is not in any large
degree due to religious prejudice. No, the Jew is a money-getter. He
made it the end and aim of his life. He was at it in Rome. He has been
at it ever since. His success has made the whole human race his enemy.
    You will say that the Jew is everywhere numerically feeble. When I
read in the Cyclopedia Britannica that the Jewish population in the
United States was 250,000 I wrote the editor and explained to him that
I was personally acquainted with more Jews than that, and that his
figures were without doubt a misprint for 25,000,000. People told me
that they had reasons to suspect that for business reasons, many Jews
did not report themselves as Jews. It looks plausible. I am strongly of
the opinion that we have an immense Jewish population in America. I am
assured by men competent to speak that the Jews are exceedingly active
in politics. ("Concerning the Jews," Harper's Monthly Magazine,
September 1899)


Twain's opinion on the Jews is probably the best-kept secret in
American literary history. Immediately after his death, his eccentric
daughter Clara married - or was married by - the Jewish piano player,
Ossip Galbrilowitsch. Twain's publishers were given speedy instructions
to delete "Concerning the Jews" from the collected works, where it had
appeared in the book The Man that Corrupted Hadleybury & Other Stories.
(1) Since Jews provided most of the agitators and orators who pushed
forward the Abolition campaign that culminated in the Civil War (which
Jewish bankers largely financed, on both sides), it seems a legitimate
question whether there was any preplanning for the wholesale - and
retail - economic looting done by mainly Jewish carpetbaggers after the
war. (2) We have cited a host of other writers on the terrible economic
depredation that Jewry visited on the people of Tzarist Russia.

ERNEST RENAN, French historian

    "The Jews are not merely a different religious community, but - and
this is the most important factor - ethnically an altogether different
race. The European felt instinctively that the Jew is a stranger, who
immigrated from Asia. The so-called prejudice is natural sentiment.
Civilization will overcome antipathy against the Israelite who merely
professes another religion, but never against the racially different
Jew...
    In Eastern Europe the Jew is the cancer slowly eating into the
flesh of other nations. Exploitation of the people is his only aim.
Selfishness and a lack of personal courage are his chief
characteristics; self-sacrifice and patriotism are altogether foreign
to him."


GOLDWIN SMITH, Professor of Modern History at Oxford, wrote in
Nineteenth Century, October 1881

    "The Jew alone regard his race as superior to humanity, and looks
forward not to its ultimate union with other races, but to its triumph
over them all and to its final ascendancy under the leadership of a
tribal Messiah."


MENCKEN, H. L. 20th century American writer.

    "The Jews could be put down very plausibly as the most unpleasant
race ever heard of. As commonly encountered they lack any of the
qualities that mark the civilized man: courage, dignity,
incorruptibility, ease, confidence. They have vanity without pride,
voluptuousness without taste, and learning without wisdom. Their
fortitude, such as it is, is wasted upon puerile objects, and their
charity is mainly a form of display." (Treatise on the Gods)
    The fact that what are commonly spoken of as rights are often
really privileges is demonstrated in the case of the Jews. They resent
bitterly their exclusion from certain hotels, resorts and other places
of gathering, and make determined efforts to horn in. But the moment
any considerable number of them horns in, the attractions of the place
diminish, and the more pushful Jews turn to one where they are still
nicht gewuenscht ... ("not wanted.")
    "I am one of the few Goyim who have ever actually tackled the
TALMUD. I suppose you now expect me to add that it is a profound and
noble work, worthy of hard study by all other GOYIM. Unhappily, my
report must differ from this expectation. It seems to me, save for a
few bright spots, to be quite indistinguishable from rubbish..."
    "The Jewish theory that the GOYIM envy the superior ability of the
Jews is not borne out by the facts. Most GOYIM, in fact, deny that the
Jew is superior, and point in evidence to his failure to take the first
prizes: he has to be content with the seconds. No Jewish composer has
ever come within miles of Bach, Beethoven and Brahms; no Jew has ever
challenged the top-flight painters of the world, and no Jewish
scientist has equaled Newton, Darwin, Pasteur or Mendel. In the latter
bracket such apparent exception as Ehrlich, Freud and Einstein are only
apparent. Ehrlich, in fact, contributed less to biochemical fact than
to biochemical theory, and most of his theory was dubious. Freud was
nine-tenths quack, and there is sound reason for believing that even
Einstein will not hold up: in the long run his curved space may be
classed with the psychosomatic bumps of Gall and Spurzheim. But whether
this inferiority of the Jew is real or only a delusion, it must be
manifest that it is generally accepted. The GOY does not, in fact,
believe that the Jew is better than the non-Jew; the most he will admit
is that the Jew is smarter at achieving worldly success. But this he
ascribes to sharp practices, not to superior ability." (Minority
Report: H. L. Mencken's Notebooks)


SHAW, GEORGE BERNARD. 20th century British dramatist.

    "This is the real enemy, the invader from the East, the Druze, the
ruffian, the oriental parasite; in a word: the Jew. (London Morning
Post, December 3, 1925)
    This craving for bouquets by Jews is a symptom of racial
degeneration. The Jews are worse than my own people. Those Jews who
still want to be the chosen race (chosen by the late Lord Balfour) can
go to Palestine and stew in their own juice. The rest had better stop
being Jews and start being human beings. (Literary Digest, October 12,
1932)


WAGNER, RICHARD. 19th century German composer.

    "The Jew has never had an art of his own, hence never a live of
art-enabling import... "So long as the separate art of music had a real
organic life-need in it, down to the epochs of Mozart and Beethoven,
there was nowhere to be found a Jew composer: it was utterly impossible
for an element quiet foreign to that living organism to take a part in
the formative stages of that life. Only when a body's inner death is
manifest, do outside elements win the power of judgment in it - yet
merely to destroy it.
    On one thing am I clear: that is the influence which the Jews have
gained upon our mental life, as displayed in the deflection and
falsification of our highest culture-tendencies. Whether the downfall
of our culture can be arrested by a violent rejection of the
destructive alien element, I an unable to decide, since that would
require forces with whose existence I am unacquainted. (Judaism in
Music)


SOMBART, WERNER. 20th century German economist.

    "Capitalism was born from the money loan. Money lending contains
the root idea of capitalism. Turn to the pages of the TALMUD and you
will find that the Jews made an art of lending money. They were taught
early to look for their chief happiness in the possession of money.
They fathomed all the secrets that lay hid in money. They became Lords
of Money and Lords of the World...


FITZGERALD, F. SCOTT. 20th century American novelist.

    "Down a tall busy street he read a dozen Jewish names on a line of
stores; in the door of each stood a dark little man watching the
passers from intent eyes - eyes gleaming with suspicion, with pride,
with clarity, with cupidity, with comprehension. New York - he could
not dissociate it from the slow, upward creep of this people - the
little stores, growing, expanding, consolidating, moving, watched over
with hawks' eyes and a bee's attention to detail - they [were Jews.]


EMERSON, RALPH WALDO. 19th century American philosopher, poet.

    "The sufferance which is the badge of the Jew has made him, in
these days, the ruler of the rulers of the earth. (Fate an essay)


BURTON, SIR RICHARD FRANCIS. 19th century British diplomat, writer.
After a sting as consul at Damascus, Syria, where some years before, a
Catholic priest was allegedly murdered in a blood ritual by Jews,
Burton took an interest in the matter. His investigations satisfied him
that such killings actually were performed by certain sects of Jews.

    "The Jew's hand was ever, like Ishmael's, against every man but
those belonging to the Synagogue. His fierce passions and fiendish
cunning, combined with abnormal powers of intellect, with intense
vitality, and with a persistency of purpose which the world has rarely
seen, and whetted moreover by a keen thirst for blood engendered by
defeat and subjection, combined to make him the deadly enemy of all
mankind, whilst his unsocial and iniquitous Oral Law contributed to
inflame his wild lust of pelf, and to justify the crimes suggested by
spite and superstition."


DREISER, THEODORE. 20th century American writer.

    "New York to me is a scream - a Kyke's dream of a ghetto. The Lost
Tribe has taken the island. (Letter to H. L. Mencken, November 5, 1922)
"
    "Liberalism, in the case of the Jew, means internationalism. If you
listen to Jews discuss Jews, you will find they are mone-minded, very
sharp in practice. The Jews lack the fine integrity which at last is
endorsed, and to a certain degree followed, by lawyers of other
nationalities. The Jew has been in Germany for a thousand years, and he
is still a Jew. He has been in America for all of 200 years, and he has
not faded into a pure American by any means - and he will not. (Letter
to Hutchins Hapgood, The Nation magazine, April 17, 1935)"


WELLS, H. G. 20th century British writer.

    "The Jews looked for a special savior, a messiah, who was to redeem
mankind by the agreeable process of restoring the fabulous glories of
David and Solomon, and bringing the whole world at last under the firm
but benevolent Jewish heel." (The Outline of History)
    "Zionism is an expression of Jewish refusal to assimilate. If the
Jews have suffered, it is because they have regarded themselves as a
chosen people." (The Anatomy of Frustration)
    "A careful study of anti-Semitism prejudice and accusations might
be of great value to many Jews, who do not adequately realize the
irritations they inflict." (Letter of November 11, 1933)
    Wells was in the habit of referring to KARL MARX as "a shallow
third-rate Jew," and "a lousy Jew" in private correspondence. (Norman
MacKenzie, H. G. Wells)


LINDBERGH, CHARLES. 20th century American aviator, writer.
Wednesday, August 23, 1939

    "We are disturbed about the effect of the Jewish influence in our
press, radio and motion pictures. It may become very serious. [Fulton]
Lewis told us of one instance where the Jewish advertising firms
threatened to remove all their advertising from the Mutual system if a
certain feature were permitted to go on the air. The threat was
powerful enough to have the feature removed."

Thursday, May 1, 1941

    "The pressure for war is high and mounting. The people are opposed
to it, but the Administration seems to have 'the bit in its teeth' and
is hell-bent on its way to war. Most of the Jewish interests in the
country are behind war, and they control a huge part of our press and
radio and most of our motion pictures. There are the 'intellectuals'
and the 'Anglophiles,' and the British agents who are allowed free
rein, the international financial interests, and many others." (The
Wartime Journals)


GENERAL GEORGE VAN HORN MOSELY, in the New York Tribune, March 29, 1939

    "The war now proposed is for the purpose of establishing Jewish
influence throughout the world."


HERDER, JOHANN GOTTFRIED. 18th century German philosopher.

    "The Jewish people is and remains in Europe an Asiatic people alien
to our part of the world, bound to that old law which it received in a
distant climate, and which, according to its confession, it cannot do
away with...
    How many of this alien people can be tolerated without injury to
the true citizen?
    A ministry in which a Jew is supreme, a household in which a Jew
has the key of the wardrobe and the management of the finances, a
department or commissariat in which Jews do the principal business, are
Pontine marshes which cannot be drained. (Bekehrung der Juden)
    For thousands of years, since their emergence on the stage of
history, the Jews were a parasitic growth on the stem of other nations,
a race of cunning brokers all over the earth. They have cause great
evil to many ill-organized states, by retarding the free and natural
economic development of their indigenous population. ("Hebraer," in
Ideen)


BONAPARTE, NAPOLEON. French statesman, general.

    "The Jews provided troops for my campaign in Poland, but they ought
to reimburse me: I soon found that they are no good for anything but
selling old clothes..."
    "Legislating must be put in effect everywhere that the general
well-being is in danger. The government cannot look with indifference
on the way a despicable nation takes possession of all the provinces of
France. The Jews are the master robbers of the modern age; they are the
carrion birds of humanity... "They must be treated with political
justice, not with civil justice. They are surely not real citizens."
    "The Jews have practiced usury since the time of Moses, and
oppressed the other peoples. Meanwhile, the Christians were only rarely
usurers, falling into disgrace when they did so. We ought to ban the
Jews from commerce because they abuse it... The evils of the Jews do
not stem from individuals but from the fundamental nature of this
people." (From Napoleon's Reflections, and from speeches before the
Council of State on April 30 and May 7, 1806.)
    "Nothing more contemptible could be done than the reception of the
Jews by you. I decided to improve the Jews. But I do not want more of
them in my kingdom. Indeed, I have done all to prove my scorn of the
most vile nation in the world." (Letter to his brother Jerome, King of
Westphalia, March 6, 1808)
    (1) Every big and small Jew is the peddling trade must renew his
license every year.
    (2) Checks and other obligations are only redeemable if the Jew can
prove that he has obtained the money without cheating. (Ordinance of
March 17, 1808. Napoleonic Code.)


DE GAULLE, CHARLES. 20th century French politician. Addressing the
Zionist imbroglio in the Mideast in a news conference of November 27,
1967, he observed:

    "The Jews remain what they have been at all times: an elite people,
self-confident and domineering."


SAND, GEORGE (Amantine Dupin Dudevant). 19th century French novelist.

    "I saw in 'the wandering Jew' the personification of the Jewish
people, exiled in the Middle Ages. Nevertheless, they are once again
extremely rich, owing to their unfailing rude greediness and their
indefatigable activity. With their hard-heartedness that they extend
toward people of other faiths and races they are at the point of making
themselves kings of the world. This people can thank its obstinacy that
France will be Judized within fifty years. Already some wise Jews
prophesy this frankly." (Letter to Victor Lorie, 1857)


COMMUNITY OF STRASBOURG, FRANCE. In an address to the ASSEMBLEE in
1790, the city's revolutionary leaders opposed citizenship for Jews,
because:

    "Everyone knew the inherent bad character of the Jews and no one
doubted they were foreigners... Let the 'enlighteners' stop defaming
the Gentiles by blaming them for what is wrong with the Jews. Their
conduct is their own fault. Perhaps the Jews might eventually give up
every aspect of their separation and all the characteristics of their
nature. Let us sit and wait until that happens; we might them judge
them to be worthy of equality. (Tres Humble Adresse qui Presente la
Commune de la Ville Strasbourg)


ROBERTS, STEPHEN H. 20th century Australian historian. Though hostile
on almost every point to National Socialism, his The House that Hitler
Built does admit that Jews were a menace in Germany:

    "It is useless to deny that grave Jewish problems existed in
Germany. The nation was in the unfortunate geographical position of
being the first stage in the perennial push westward of the Polish
Jews. Unless forced on, they tended to stop in Berlin and Hamburg,
where they obtained an unduly share of good professional positions. In
Berlin, for example, when the Nazi came to power, 50.2 percent of the
lawyers were Jews. In medicine, 48 per cent of the doctors were Jews,
and it was said that they systematically seized the principal hospital
posts. The Jews owned the largest and most important Berlin newspapers,
and they had made great inroads on the educational system."


FRANCO, FRANCISCO. 20th century Spanish statesman. In his victory
speech in Madrid, on May 19, 1939, he declared:

    "Let us be under no illusion. The Jewish spirit, which was
responsible for the alliance of large-scale capital with Marxism and
was the driving force behind so many anti-Spanish revolutionary
agreements, will not be got rid of in a day."


PRIMO DE RIVERA, JOSE. 20th century Spanish political reformer
(assassinated by the Communists). He stressed that the instruments of
Jewish domination in the modern world are money and the press, and that
communism is an instrument of international Jewish capitalism used to
smash and afterwards rule the nations. (El Estado Nacional)

H. H. BEAMISH, in a New York address, October 30 - November 1, 1937

    "In 1848 the word "anti-Semitic" was invented by the Jews to
prevent the use of the word "Jew." The right word for them is "Jew" ...
    "I implore all of you to be accurate - call them Jews. There is no
need to be delicate on this Jewish question. You must face them in this
country. The Jew should be satisfied here. I was here forty-seven years
ago; your doors were thrown open to the Jews and they were free. No he
has got you absolutely by the throat - that is your reward."


CHRISTEA, PATRIARCH. 20th century Romanian prelate.

    "The Jews have caused an epidemic of corruption and social unrest.
They monopolize the press, which, with foreign help, flays all the
spiritual treasures of the Romanians. To defend ourselves is a national
and patriotic duty - not anti-Semitism. Lack of measures to get rid of
the plague would indicate that we are lazy cowards who let ourselves be
carried alive to our graves. Why should we not get rid of these
parasites who suck Romanian and Christian blood? It is logical and holy
to react against them." (New York Herald Tribune, August 17, 1937)


HOUSTON STEWART CHAMBERLAIN, world famed author of Foundations of the
Nineteenth Century, Vol. I, page 337

    "The revelation of Christ has no significance for the Jew! ... I
have searched through a whole library of Jewish books in the
expectation of finding - naturally not belief in the Divinity of
Christ, nor the idea of redemption, but the purely human feeling for
the greatness of suffering Savior - but in vain. A Jew who feels that,
is, in fact, no longer a Jew, but a denier of Judiasm. And while we
find, even in Mohammed's Koran, at least a vague conception of the
importance of Christ and profound reverence for His personality, a
cultured leading Jew of the nineteenth century (Graetz) calls Christ
"the new birth with the death mask," which inflicted new and painful
wounds upon the Jewish people; he cannot see anything else in Him. In
view of the Cross he assures us that "the Jews do not require this
convulsive emotion for their spiritual improvement," and adds,
"particularly not among the middle classes of inhabitants of the
cities." His comprehension goes further. In a book, republished in
1880, by a Spanish Jew (Mose de Leon) Jesus Christ is called a "dead
dog" that lies "buried in a dunghill." Besides, the Jews have taken
care to issue in the latter part of the nineteens century several
editions (naturally in Hebrew) of the so-called "censured passages"
>from the Talmud, those passages usually omitted in which Christ is
exposed to our scorn and hatred as a "fool," "sorcerer," "profane
person," "idolater," "dog," "bastard," "child of lust," etc.: so, too,
His sublime Mother."


ADRIEN ARCAND, Canadian political leader of the 1930s

    "Through their (Jew's) international news agencies, they mold your
minds and have you see the world not as it is, but as they want you to
see it. Through their cinema, they are the educators of our youth - and
with just one film in two hours, can wipe out of a child's brain what
he has learned in six months in the home, the church or the school."


NESTA WEBSTER, in her book Germany and England

    "England is no longer controlled by Britons. We are under the
invisible Jewish dictatorship - a dictatorship that can be felt in
every sphere of life."


HENRY WALLACE, Secretary of Commerce, under President Harry Truman,
wrote in his dairy that in 1946

    "Truman was "exasperated" over Jewish pressure that he support
Zionist rule over Palestine. Wallace added "Pres. Truman expressed
himself as being very much 'put out' with the Jews. He said that 'Jesus
Christ couldn't please them when he was here on Earth, so how could
anyone expect that I would have any luck?' Pres. Truman said he hand no
use for them and didn't care what happened to them."


WILLIAM JENNINGS BRYANT, three times the Democratic Party candidate for
President said:

    "New York is the city of privilege. Here is the seat of the
Invisible Power represented by the allied forces of finance and
industry. This Invisible Government is reactionary, sinister,
unscrupulous, mercenary, and sordid. It is wanting in national ideals
and devoid of conscience... This kind of government must be scourged
and destroyed."


HENRY ADAMS (Descendant of President John Adams), in a letter to John
Hay, October 1895

    "The Jewish question is really the most serious of our problems."


SPRING-RICE, SIR CECIL. 20th century British politician.

    "One by one, the Jews are capturing the principal newspapers of
America. (Letter of November 1914, to Sir Edward Grey, foreign
secretary. Letters and Friendships)


CAPOTE, TRUMAN. 20th century American writer. In an interview, he
assailed "the Zionist mafia" monopolizing publishing today, and
protested a tendency to suppress things that do not meet with Jewish
approval. (Playboy magazine, March 1968)

VOLTAIRE (Francois Marie Arouet) 18th century French philosopher,
writer.

    "Why are the Jews hated? It is the inevitable result of their laws;
they either have to conquer everybody or be hated by the whole human
race..."
    "The Jewish nation dares to display an irreconcilable hatred toward
all nations, and revolts against all masters; always superstitious,
always greedy for the well-being enjoyed by others, always barbarous -
cringing in misfortune and insolent in prosperity." (Essai sur le
Moeurs)
    "You seem to me to be the maddest of the lot. The Kaffirs, the
Hottentots, and the Negroes of Guinea are much more reasonable and more
honest people than your ancestors, the Jews. You have surpassed all
nations in impertinent fables in bad conduct and in barbarism. You
deserve to be punished, for this is your destiny." (From a letter to a
Jew who had written to him, complaining of his 'anti-Semitism.' Examen
des Quelques Objections... dans L'Essai sur le Moeurs.)
    "You will only find in the Jews an ignorant and barbarous people,
who for a long time have joined the most sordid avarice to the most
detestable superstition and to the most invincible hatred of all
peoples which tolerate and enrich them." ("Juif," Dictionnaire
Philosophique)
    "I know that there are some Jews in the English colonies. These
marranos go wherever there is money to be made... But whether these
circumcised who sell old clothes claim that they are of the tribe of
Naphtali or Issachar is not of the slightest importance. They are,
simply, the biggest scoundrels who have ever dirtied the face of the
earth." (Letter to Jean-Baptiste Nicolas de Lisle de Sales, December
15, 1773. Correspondance. 86:166)
    "They are, all of them, born with raging fanaticism in their
hearts, just as the Bretons and the Germans are born with blond hair. I
would not be in the least bit surprised if these people would not some
day become deadly to the human race." (Lettres de Memmius a Ciceron,
1771)


CANNOT, E. 19th century French reformer. In La Renovation, journal of
the socialist school of CHARLES FOURIER.

    "Jews! To the heights of your Sinai... I humbly lift myself. I
stand erect and cry out to you, in behalf of all my humble equals, of
all those whom your spoliation has brought to grief, who died in misery
through you and whose trembling shades accuse you: Jews! for Cain and
Iscariot, leave us, leave us! Ah, cross the Red Sea again, and go down
there to the desert, to the promised land which is waiting for you, the
only country fit for you; o you wicked, rude and dishonest people, go
there!!! ("Israel")



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On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 23:18:25 +0100, "Runge" ,  in wrote:

>For the price it is OK
>Nothing special about it

The prices are fair, but the so-called service is completely awful!!

Frequent delays, of up to several days, while they try to find a replacement
aircraft!!

Staff are surly at best, and worse frequently.

Constant news reports of stranded passengers, who also miss connecting
flights, and if without proper travel insurance, then have to pay again for
onward flights, since Transat does not give a damn!!

>"GreyPhil"  a écrit dans le message de news: 
>1164834226.593065.130040@j44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> To anyone who has traveled on Air Transat ( A large Canadian air
>> charter company), I wouild like to hear about your experiences, good or
>> bad. In order  to not unduly bias this discussion I will withould my
>> personal comments for a couple of days.

>> Thanks



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On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 10:33:58 GMT, "Sharx35"  wrote:
Evidence of crooked city tax assessors will again be proven at ARB Hearing,
Monday 18 September.

No wonder Mel Forseth, Nick Gorda, Mike Chibuk, and Frank Oesterreicher do not
want the public reminded, that for 8 years they allowed a lawyer's house to be
DELIBERATELY UNDER-ASSESSED BY HALF A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR, 
FOR 8 YEARS!!

One must wonder, who is on the take, to allow such irregularity for so long?

>Chief Instigator wrote:
>> Next installment and exposure of city tax department irregularities
>> was in  OPEN COURT, at the MGB Hearing,  March 27.

>> Again, was exposed for all to see, the evidence proving the City
>> allowed the lawyer to be underassessed  for his property at 13723 -
>> 93 St., by HALF A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR, for 8 years.

>Is that commercially zoned property, occupied by a residence?

It is a 2 story building, zoned DC5, with lawyer offices on main floor, and
rental apartments on upper floor.

HALF A MILLION DOLLARS each year - for 8 years!
His own papers filed declared the value to be $600,000, while his
friends in the city only assessed for $149,500!!

>> In retaliation, the city assessors incresed the assessment of the man
>> who exposed their graft by 4 TIMES THAT OF HIS NEIGHBOURS!!


>> Yes, the city website is operational in May and June, which allowed
>> some of us the opportunity to get the PROOF, which will be used in
>> the MGB city tax appeals, to PROVE GROSS OR CRIMINAL IRREGULARITIES
>> by the city tax staffers!

>> One must wonder, for whom is Merle Foresth working, since he seems to
>> not care about massive irregularities!!

>> It is now time, to not only FIRE those city employees involved in
>> this massive under-assessment for one of their buddies, but they
>> should also be PROSECUTED for their involvement in this massive FRAUD
>> on the city taxpayers!!

>> How many other friends of city tax department staff are also, still,
>> getting massive under-assessments, worth tens of thousands of dollars
>> per crook, apart from the well-known city lawyer exposed?

>> Time to clean house at city hall, and not just leave it up to
>> Grosvenor to take these crooks to court!!


>> From: arielv2@37.com the filthy crook, wanting everyone to know about
>> how corrupt is the cesspool called Deadmonton, wrote:
>> Newsgroups: edm.general,edm.politics
>> Subject: Re: APPEAL YOUR TAXES!!GRAFT,CORRUPTION in City Tax
>> Appeal-Lawyer Finally Got Taxes Quadrupled!! WHY BE JEWED?
>> Date: 1 Aug 2005 13:21:10 -0700

>> Why do you call our beuatiful city "deadmonton", ?
>> if you don't like it here why are you doing here? why don't you go
>> back to the rat hole you came from (england or whatever hellhole you're
>> from). stop polluting our charming city with your stinking existance. a
>> bullet thru your old and rotten head will be a great solution to your not
>> liking our city. drop dead you fucking nazi!


>> On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 09:12:18 -0600, George
>>  wrote:

>>> If your city tax assessment has increased more than the 2.4%
>>> inflation certified by StatsCan, then perhaps you also are a victim
>>> of the crooks running Deadmonton?!!

>>> If you feel you are being overcharged, then do what you are entitled
>>> to do - FILE AN APPEAL!!

>>> The odds are in your favour, since more than 80% of appeals against
>>> the City, win!!

>>> Checking the website for this year's assessments, it seems that the
>>> city of Edmonton finally obeyed the ARB,regarding the dramatically
>>> UNDERASSESSED property owned by a city liar/lawyer!.
>>> The value now is $651,000, up from the ridiculous $149,500!!!

>>> If not CORRUPTION, then at least favouritism, when property
>>> UNDER-ASSESSED BY HALF MILLION DOLLARS!!

>>> Rumour has it that the city tax assessor responsible, is no longer
>>> employed by the city??
>>> Why should a private citizen have to take the City to Court, just to
>>> force the city to do a proper job, for which some slimeball is
>>> getting overpaid?


>>> From: heinrichhimmelfarb@xmail.net (HeinrichHimmelfarb)
>>> Newsgroups:
>>> edm.general,edm.politics,ab.general,ab.politics,can.general Subject:
>>> Re: Graft,Corruption Claimed in City Tax Appeal!! LAWYER TO GET
>>> TAXES QUADRUPLED!!
>>> Date: 2 Oct 2004 08:46:23 -0700

>>> It seems that even a lawyer will finally get his comeuppance.
>>> The ARB on Monday ordered the city tax assessment department to
>>> finally correct the improper assessment and bring the value up to
>>> what it should be.

>>> This means that in one year, the assessment had to jump from the
>>> massive under-assessment of $149,500 to at least $600,000 and
>>> probably $608,000!!!

>>> Even a damned lawyer can finally get what he deserves,when someone
>>> has the guts to force the issue into a court.

>>> How many other massive UNDER-ASSESSMENTS, FOR FRIENDS OF THE CITY
>>> MANAGERS ARE OUT THERE?


>>> heinrichhimmelfarb@xmail.net (HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote in message
>>> news:<8e4c980f.0409260720.3cd39d0f@posting.google.com>...
>>>> Regarding the article below,the City is now declining to appear
>>>> before the ARB, tomorrow at 3:30 in the afternoon!!

>>>> It seems that they do not want to name the city tax assessor
>>>> responsible for the more than $200,00 REDUCTION in the property tax
>>>> assessment of the city liar/lawyer!!

>>>> In their documents sent to the complainant, the City DOES CONFIRM
>>>> THE CORRECT VALUE AT MORE THAN $608,000!!

>>>> The tax appeal Court/ARB will be asked whether this constitutes
>>>> CORRUPTION, or/and CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE!!!

>>>> Sharx, and others annoyed with city mismanagement, care to comment?


>>>> heinrichhimmelfarb@xmail.net (HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote in message
>>>> news:<8e4c980f.0408050922.417b9108@posting.google.com>...
>>>>> City have in fact confirmed,and helped correct previous assessment
>>>>> value.
>>>>> It was actually $149,500, while the owners declared value,in
>>>>> writing, was $600,000!!

>>>>> No explanation from the cretins in the Tax Assessment section as to
>>>>> why they gave their buddy such a massive UNDER-ASSESSMENT!!
>>>>> This while they gouge small homeowners and apartment owners with
>>>>> massive tax hikes!!

>>>>> No wonder the number of appeals this year is allegedly double.
>>>>> Perhaps the citizens are finally getting mad enough for a tax
>>>>> revolt.

>>>>>> Apparently THIS scandal is but the tip of the iceberg, regarding
>>>>>> irregularities involving the city tax department.

>>>>>> Another case,coming up in court next week, relates to an
>>>>>> out-of-court settlement the city had to make un connection with the illegal
>>>>>> closure of the southbound access road for Calgary Trail at Ellerslie Road.
>>>>>> One of the property owners, incensed at his astronomical tax
>>>>>> assessment hike this year, is presenting to the tax appeal court, the evidence
>>>>>> that business plummeted, plus that the city had to pay one of the
>>>>>> businesses!!

>>>>>> The right hand did not know what the left did.....


>>>>>> starwars  wrote in message
>>>>>> news:...
>>>>>>> Can someone explain how a well-known liar/lawyer is able to get a
>>>>>>> massive UNDER-ASSESSMENT on his palatial property,which is
>>>>>>> knowingly under-assessed by more than $200,000.00!!

>>>>>>> This property, which the lawyer and spouse have declared to be
>>>>>>> worth at least $600,000 (yes six hundred thousands because it is
>>>>>>> huge,has law offices on ground floor plus apartments on second
>>>>>>> floor was assessed last year for less than a quarter of
>>>>>>> value,for only $148,000!!

>>>>>>> After the city tax department documented in city tax appeal
>>>>>>> Court last year, evidence of the real value of $600,000. now
>>>>>>> this year it is assessed for $393,500 - still more than $200,000
>>>>>>> UNDER-ASSESSED!!

>>>>>>> At the same time, neighbours are being OVER-ASSESSED by 20%!!

>>>>>>> Naturally, cynics wonder, who is on the take in the City?



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One must wonder, how much is WEM DELIBERATELY UNDER-ASSESSED, 
compared to all the financing registered on the property?

Is someone in the city tax assessment department still on the take?

Will Scott Hennig soon have another news story for the media, this time about
WEM?


On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 09:11:49 -0700, Chief Instigator 
wrote:

Next installment and exposure of city tax department irregularities will be
before the ARB on 31st August 2006

>Can't get to MGB sooner, because of flood of appeals filed against crooked
>Edmonton tax department!!
>Seems I am not the only one proving they are crooks.

>Again, will be exposed for all to see, the evidence proving the City allowed
>the lawyer owning the property at 13723 - 93 St. to be deliberately
>underassessed by HALF A MILLION DOLLARS each year, for 8 years!

>In retaliation, the city assessors incresed the assessment of the man who
>exposed their graft by 4 TIMES THAT OF HIS NEIGHBOURS!!

>Notice that Bob Welldumb can not argue the FACTS!
>Is he one of the beneficiaries of the crooks in the city tax department?
>One must wonder why he is so sore about the lawyer finally being forced 
>to pay his proper share of city taxes!!

>Even the City Auditor is admitting he is aware of serious problems in certain
>departments, and is recommending an anonymous "snitch line" to save the 
>City many millions.

>He could start with the city tax assessment section, obviously!!
>Why should Grosvenor who is not paid by the city, have to do the work 
>of the overpaid city employees, who seem to be mainly crooks?

>As has been well documented, friends of the City seem to be able to get
>extremely favourable UNDER-ASSESSMENTS on THEIR properties, while 
>the average citizen has their property OVER-ASSESSED to make up for the
>shortfall!!

>Yes, the city website was operational in May and June, which allowed some of
>us the opportunity to get the PROOF, which will be used in the ARB city tax
>appeals, to PROVE GROSS OR CRIMINAL IRREGULARITIES by the city tax staffers!

>One must wonder, for whom is Merle Foresth working, since he seems to not care
>about massive irregularities!!


>On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 09:03:12 -0600, KenMcVayAIDS 
>wrote:

>>Newsgroups: edm.general, edm.politics, ab.general, calgary.general
>>From: "Brian Boulanger" 
>>Date: 30 Jun 2005 08:02:40 -0700
>>Local: Thurs,Jun 30 2005 10:02 am
>>Subject: Re: $Half MILLION Underassessed By City Tax Dept.-Heads to
>>Roll!!

>>You are completely correct.
>>Unfortunately, the bureaucrats on the city payroll trough have
>>consistently opposed any review, such as Zero Based Budgetting, or MBO
>>Management by Objectives, or any means of quantifying or/and justifying
>>their jobs!
>
>>They know, that if the top 50% of all bureaucrats were fired, there
>>would be absolutely no loss in the actual performance of the city
>>departments.
>
>>In fact, rumour is that performance, and cost/benefit would
>>dramatically improve!!
>
>>
>>Take the local cops for example. We pay seniors there from $120,000 to
>>$180,000 each,plus benefits. All are supposedly fluent in English.
>>Yet they waste over ONE MILLION DOLLARS for their BS hacks and flacks,
>>because they do not want to address the media themselves, but would
>>rather engage in empire building! The million wasted could go instead
>>to hiring some honest cops!
>>
>>As for the council members, there is only one - Mike Nickel - who
>>actually runs a real business, and even he was forced to move it out of
>>
>>Edmonton to Leduc!! The rest of council are all parasites, and lazy
>>ne'er-do-wells.
>>
>>Newsgroups: edm.general, edm.politics, ab.general, calgary.general
>>From: f...@bouncemail.ca - Find messages by this author
>>Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 21:29:23 GMT
>>Local: Fri,Jul 1 2005 4:29 pm
>>Subject: Re: $Half MILLION Underassessed By City Tax Dept.-Heads to
>>Roll!!
>>On 30 Jun 2005 08:02:40 -0700, "Brian Boulanger"  wrote:
>>>You are completely correct.
>>>Unfortunately, the bureaucrats on the city payroll trough have
>>>consistently opposed any review, such as Zero Based Budgetting, or MBO
>>>Management by Objectives, or any means of quantifying or/and justifying
>>>their jobs!
>>
>>>They know, that if the top 50% of all bureaucrats were fired, there
>>>would be absolutely no loss in the actual performance of the city
>>>departments.
>>
>>I believe you and actually have no doubt of this myself.
>>
>>>In fact, rumour is that performance, and cost/benefit would dramatically
>>>improve!!
>>
>>No doubt, look at all the duplication of services we now have. No
>>wonder it is more expensive to buy anything in Canada today then it is
>>to shop in the States. All people have to do is go to the web sites of
>>any governmnent and check out all the departments. See if there is any
>>overlap. Also, one has to take into consideration the use of
>>computers. Seems to me that it takes just as long to push paperwork
>>through as it did when I used to type on a standard typewriter. One
>>should ask themselves why? Too many hands....
>>
>>
>>>Take the local cops for example. We pay seniors there from $120,000 to
>>>$180,000 each,plus benefits. All are supposedly fluent in English.
>>>Yet they waste over ONE MILLION DOLLARS for their BS hacks and flacks,
>>>because they do not want to address the media themselves, but would
>>>rather engage in empire building! The million wasted could go instead
>>>to hiring some honest cops!
>>
>>I am not to sure what you mean here.
>>WHY SHOULD TAXPAYERS HAVE TO [AY MORE THAN A MILLION DOLLARS FOR A BS
>>SECTION AT POLICE HQ, WHEN WE ALREADY OVERPAY THE TOP COPS?!!
>>For what the chief and his deputy goons get paid, they should do their
>>own talking to the media, or else continue lying as their predecessors
>>did, until fired!!
>>
>>>As for the council members, there is only one - Mike Nickel - who
>>>actually runs a real business, and even he was forced to move it out of
>>>Edmonton to Leduc!! The rest of council are all parasites, and lazy
>>>ne'er-do-wells.
>>
>>With all the deductions that businesses get from the federal
>>government in income tax why did Mike Nickel have to move his business
>>to Leduc?
>>
>>PROBABLY BECAUSE THERE IS TOO MUCH ANTI-BUSINESS RED TAPE FOR ANY
>>HONEST BUSINESS TRYING TO SURVIVE IN DEADMONTON?
>>
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On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 04:32:48 GMT, Sew  wrote:
>On 30 Mar 2006 02:15:16 -0000, Dump The Crooks 
>wrote:

>>Canadian Taxpayers Association has exposed what many Edmonton taxpayers have
>>long suspected.

>>Because the city council and mayor pay themselves by having one third TAXFREE,
>>unlike most honest taxpayers, they are in fact way overpaid for the scams they
>>are endorsing.

>>CTA have confirmed that city councillors are in fact getting the equivalent of
>>$85,110 per year, which is more than other cities are paying.

>>The mayor is seriously overpaid, getting the equivalent of $167,870 a year!!
>>This means that the mayor of Deadmonton gets $6,000 more than Ralph Klein,
>>Premier of Alberta!!

>>Time to dump ALL the mayor and Council, and replace them with honest, hard-working
>>councillors getting a basic pay of $52,000 a year - PLUS BONUSES BASED ON LOWER TAXES
>>AND BETTER PERFORMANCE OF CITY ESSENTIAL FUNCTIONS!

>>At the same time, Council should implement ZBB - Zero Based Budgetting, and fire
>>all unnecessary city managers, and close down non-appropriate city departments.
>>Let the federal and provincial governments operate those functions which are THEIR responsibilities, 
>>such as arts, sports,multiculuralism, and welfare, to name a few.

>>Sharx, Sew, Grosvenor - care to comment?

>I am in TOTAL AGREEMENT. I am tired of politicians thinking they can
>just run for office and then increase homeowners taxes just so they
>can give themselves more and more raises. It is NOT RIGHT no matter
>who they are paying to say that it is. The cost of living in Edmonton
>is way lower than Calgary or Toronto, there are fewer people living in
>Edmonton, and most of all which of the people that are running this
>city have a university degree?? After all, in order to make that kind
>of money most people NEED to have a university degree. 

You do not need to have a university degree to be a capable administrator of
billions of dollars.

You should at least be a successful BUSINESS OWNER.
Out of current 13 clowns on council, apparaently only Mike Nickel owns a
successful business.

Further, council members should be HONEST, and not support corruption and
criminality, and similar. This council went so far as to give a payoff of HALF
A MILLION DOLLARS to the former disgraced chief cop, who had been fired for
just cause!!

No honest, competent business managers would have colluded as they did!!



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Guys, stop discussing ambulances.

How much do you think would be fair pay for the clowns on council, plus the
mare?

I doubt that we would get any candidates if we paid them what they are REALLY
worth, but at least give them something, for wasting hundreds of millions -
say welfare rates?


On 9 Apr 2006 21:38:59 -0000, Dump The Crooks  wrote:

>Canadian Taxpayers Association has exposed what many Edmonton taxpayers have
>long suspected.

>Because the city council and mayor pay themselves by having one third TAXFREE,
>unlike most honest taxpayers, they are in fact way overpaid for the scams they
>are endorsing.

>CTA have confirmed that city councillors are in fact getting the equivalent of
>$85,110 per year, which is more than other cities are paying.

>The mayor is seriously overpaid, getting the equivalent of $167,870 a year!!
>This means that the mayor of Deadmonton gets $6,000 more than Ralph Klein,
>Premier of Alberta!!

>Time to dump ALL the mayor and Council, and replace them with honest, hard-working
>councvillors getting a basic pay of $52,000 a year - PLUS BONUSES BASED ON LOWER TAXES
>AND BETTER PERFORMANCE OF CITY ESSENTIAL FUNCTIONS!

>At the same time, Council should implement ZBB - Zero Based Budgetting, and fire
>all unnecessary city managers, and close down non-appropriate city departments.
>Let the federal and provincial governments operate those functions which are THEIR responsibilities, 
>such as arts, sports,multiculuralism, and welfare, to name a few.

>Sharx, Sew, Grosvenor - care to comment?



>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org

>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>is a revolutionary act."
>(George Orwell)

>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

>"All truth passes through three stages.
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)

>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant

>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant




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Man muss wundern, was ist mit GEKO, und 32 Millionen, geschehen?

On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:29:28 GMT, panPiotrGlownia 
wrote:

>In a banner headline story on page B2 of the Edmonton Journal for Thursday 19
>October 2006, it states that GEKO was bought by a Canadian business GEEP Inc,
>based in Barrie Canada.

>GEEP is building the computer recycling plant in Edmonton Canada, at a cost of
>only C$10 million, which should open in March 2007. This replaces the alleged
>$32 million plant that GEKO claimed it would build, following their press
>announcement years ago!!

>Wallace MacKay of GEEP claims to have bought GEKO. GEKO claimed to be 
>able to recycle computers, but MacKay asserts that GEKO never had expertise 
>to recycle electronics.

>GEEP (Global Electric Electronic Processing) is part of Barrie Metals Group.

>So, the question is, war GEKO vor der Pleite, in other words did GEKO go belly
>up? What happened to the 32 Million?


>On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:30:28 GMT, panPiotrGlownia 
>wrote:
>
>>Nochmal fragen - 
>>Wenn es wirklich kein Plant in Kanada gibt, dann wer hat die 32
>>MILLIONEN?  Ist GEKO dann kaput?
>>
>>Kann Bundesfinanzamt erklaeren?
>
>>>On Tue, 16 May 2006 17:04:45 GMT, Asterix
>>> wrote:
>>>>On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 11:58:34 -0600, Chief Instigator
>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>In a half page headline story in the Edmonton Journal today 15 August 2005,
>>>>>the report complains that even after more than 3 years, THERE IS STILL NOT
>>>>>EVEN THE START OF CONSTRUCTION OF THE GEKO GARBAGE 
>>>>>COMPUTER RECYCLING PLANT IN EDMONTON,CANADA!!
>>>>
>>>>>Because of the non-existence of the GEKO recycling plant, there is now 3235
>>>>>tonnes of computers piled at the site. This has caused criticism from the
>>>>>Electronic Recycling Corporation of Alberta, who recycle usable computers for
>>>>>charities. They see the waste of usable computers in the open air stockpiles,
>>>>>in mud and water because GEKO is not functioning, as being against the best
>>>>>interests of the public, and charities.
>>>>
>>>>>Dieter Obergfell, of GEKO, explaining from Essen, , now claims that
>>>>>construction MIGHT start this August, 3 years later than originally proposed.
>>>>
>>>>Bis jetzt, keine Plant!!
>>>>Wo ist 32 Millionen?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>From: Ken Levi 
>>>>>Newsgroups:
>>>>>de.soc.wirtschaft,de.soc.politik.misc,soc.culture.german,soc.culture.germany
>>>>>Subject: Re: GEKO-Who Is Pocketing Extra $28 MILLION?? WER
>>>>>PROFITIERT,Bundesfinanzamt?
>>>>>Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:28:28 -0700
>>>>
>>>>>When GEKO claims that they will be spending more than 10 TIMES what
>>>>>the successful competitor MAXUS paid for their plant, and when MAXUS
>>>>>even paid for their land which GEKO will not, one has to ask, WHO IS
>>>>>GETTING THE EXTRA 28 MILLIONEN??
>>>>
>>>>>Has Bundesfinanzamt approved the removal of the more than 30 millionen
>>>>>from Germany?
>>>>
>>>>>Have the shareholders of GEKO been given all the facts regarding the
>>>>>disappearance of this money from their control?
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On 9 Nov 2004 00:39:27 -0000, Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header
>>>>>(DanChristensen) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Here in Canada, people have another extremely interesting question, which manager of
>>>>>>GEKO Recycling Technologies Dieter Obergfell can not answer!!
>>>>>>WHY IS THE EDMONTON CANADA GARBAGE PROJECT FOR GEKO GOING TO COST 30 MILLIONEN,
>>>>>>since they do not have to pay for the land of 5 acres?
>>>>>
>>>>>>In the nearby community of Ryley, the competitor doing the same work,
>>>>>>MAXUS TECHNOLOGTY CORPORATION, paid under
>>>>>>$3 millionen, which included the cost for their land!!
>>>>>
>>>>>>WHO IS POCKETING THE EXTRA $27 MILLIONEN? WER PROFITIERT?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>An interesting question for Deutsche Bundesfinanzamt - Did GEKO pay the taxes 
>>>>>>in Germany, on the 30 million they say they will spend/lose
>>>>>>in Edmonton, Canada?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>A local paper in Edmonton,Canada is reporting that the firm GEKO, division of DiHAG/GEKO
>>>>>>is supposed to be spending $30 million for a computer recycling plant at the 
>>>>>>local garbage dump.
>>>>>
>>>>>>It is not clear why GEKO are building this overpriced facility.
>>>>>
>>>>>>For more than 3 years, a competitor, MAXUS Technology Corporation, has been in 
>>>>>>business in a nearby town.
>>>>>>MAXUS have also made contracts with communities throughout western Canada and 
>>>>>>also the USA, to have trainloads of computers and similar
>>>>>>materials available for processing, leaving next to no product for GEKO!!
>>>>>
>>>>>>Because GEKO did NOT build when they said they would, 2 years ago, the mayor 
>>>>>>was defeated in his bid for re- election this week!!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Subject: Germany Continues Boycott of Deadmonton
>>>>>>Date: 1999/07/25
>>>>>>Message-ID: <199907251430.QAA17273@mail.replay.com>#1/1
>>>>>>Newsgroups: edm.general,ab.general,soc.culture.german
>>>>>
>>>>>>The media report that no businesses from Germany bothered
>>>>>>to attend this year's Klondike Days in Deadmonton, (Edmonton)Canada
>>>>>
>>>>>>Even though GERMANY was the featured nation.
>>>>>
>>>>>>Could this perhaps have something to do with the snubbing
>>>>>>by Burgermeister ARSCHLOCH Smith, of the international trade
>>>>>>delegation from Germany, whom he REFUSED to meet?
>>>>>
>>>>>>Smith refused to meet with the large delegation of people from Berlin,
>>>>>>who had been scheduled by both the provincial government trade office,
>>>>>>as well as City Hall.
>>>>>
>>>>>>The trade delegation after being snubbed by Smith, then went on to
>>>>>>Calgary, where they were welcomed. They also did do considerable
>>>>>>business, in the pro-business city, unlike the welfare  dump of
>>>>>>Deadmonton.
>>>>>
>>>>>>This INTERNATIONAL INCIDENT was documented in detail in the
>>>>>>Edmonton Journal 3 times - 1 December 1995 on page B2,
>>>>>>on 12 January 1996 on page B3, and again on 28 March 1996 on page A14.
>>>>>
>>>>>>The media in Germany carried many articles, denouncing the
>>>>>>anti-German actions of Burgermeister ARSCHLOCH.
>>>>>
>>>>>>It seems that even though slick Willy squanders piles of
>>>>>>taxpayer dollars wining and dining and traipsing off to
>>>>>>Germany, the businesspeople there still remember him as
>>>>>>Burgermeister Arschloch.
>>>>>
>>>>>>That is why Deadmonton is still blackballed by thinking Germans.
>>>>>
>>>>>>Now, slick Willy is trying to con some Germans running GEKO to
>>>>>>build a recycling plant for computers, WITHOUT TELLING THEM THAT
>>>>>>THEY ARE TOO LATE!!
>>>>>
>>>>>>Another local firm MAXUS TECHNOLOGY INC. has built a multi-million dollar 
>>>>>>facility near Edmonton, already operating, to handle millions of tonnes of old computers from all over 
>>>>>>Canada and the USA!!
>>>>>
>>>>>>Are Germans so stupid as to believe a mayor, whose own business as
>>>>>>a used tire dealer went under?? Ask Michelin about B & D Tiretown,
>>>>>>or even ask Jan Reimer who brought it up in the election campaign...



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On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 20:47:48 +0000, pj  wrote:
>On 2 Nov 2006 07:03:12 -0800, "Just Another M.I 5 1/2 Fan"
> wrote:

>>The Rifleman wrote:
>>> Good, druggies should be driven from society, they are week people who will
>>> never contribute to society

Not only should the junkie be evicted, any children under her care should be
removed, and adopted by a responsible family.


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On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 20:47:48 +0000, pj  wrote:
>On 2 Nov 2006 07:03:12 -0800, "Just Another M.I 5 1/2 Fan"
> wrote:

>>The Rifleman wrote:
>>> Good, druggies should be driven from society, they are week people who will
>>> never contribute to society

Not only should the junkie be evicted, any children under her care should be
removed, and adopted by a responsible family.


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On Fri, 03 Nov 2006 08:46:19 +0000, Phil Stovell  wrote:

>On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 23:40:41 +0000, Colin Wilson wrote:
>
>> I'm not saying the law is right - i'm saying she knew the penalty she
>> faced with the law as it stands, and carried on.

>She's facing a double jeopardy. She was fined £150+£50 for the "offence"
>by the court, but now the HA is also punishing her (and her innocent child).

If she is a criminal junkie, then she has no one to blame but herself.

Hopefully the authorities will remove her child from her, and give the child
for adoption to a responsible normal couple.

This skank is obviously an unfit mother, as well as a criminal.



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Subject: Wish To Dispose of Dealer Stock-$3 Million CV

Gentlemen:
We seek a buyer of all our stock, for cash payable to our bankers.
Approximately $3 million, with main areas of interest:
GB
Canada
Germany
Commonwealth
France
USA
Austria
Israel
etc.

If interested, kindly advise.
The reason for sale, eyesight going blind.
We are NOT interested in consigning, or auction, only full cash sale.
Located in northern Canada.

Reply to: JoeBlough@operamail.com



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From: The Truth Seeker 
Subject: 51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 12:53:13 +0000 (UTC)

51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis.

By Lenni Brenner

Lenni Brenner has collated documents that relate to how the Zionist movement
collaborated with German Nazism and Italian Fascism. Given the subsequent
Holocaust against the Jews by the Nazis, many will be surprised and appalled
that a political movement, which supposedly supported Jewish liberation, was
prepared to collaborate with the most anti-semitic of regimes.

Among the documents is the relatively well known and infamous ŒStern Gang
Proposal¹ in which the organisation of future Israeli PM Yitzhak Shamir offers
to join in WWII on Œthe side of the German Reich¹. There is also the
embarrassing documents of the German Zionists who saw the Nazis as fellow
nationalists and were thus sympathetic to ŒGerman national renewal¹, the
memoirs of an SS officer who stays in Palestine as the guest of the Zionist
movement for 6 months.

These acts of collaboration were not limited to the right wing fringe of the
Zionist movement but went to the heart of the Zionist Labour establishment
when the head of the Haganah, Feival Polkes, became a willing paid informer of
the Gestapo. He was even handled by one of the architects of the Final
Solution, Adolf Eichmann, who also travelled to Palestine to liaise with the
Zionists.

These shocking historical documents will make you realise that the history of
the political movement which founded the state of Israel is not quite what it
seems.

They also prove that Zionists will do *anything* to protect their precious
political movement, even if it means sacrificing several million Jews in the
process, then exploiting their suffering to secure the greater goal of a
Zionist State.

The Truth Seeker has spoken.


On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 11:08:04 -0700, Ken McVayAIDS/SOB  wrote:
>Reply-To: "George" ,
>PRAWDA!
>
>On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:14:47 -0700, Heinrich Himmelfarb
> wrote:
>
>>The story documented below means that the KASTNER CASE was not an
>>isolated incident!!
>
>Now even Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to be a Nazi GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!
>
>
>>On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:25:52 GMT, c@c.cc wrote:
>>> 51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis  
>
>>>September 2004, page 86 
>
>>>Book Review
>
>>>51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis
>>>By Lenni Brenner, ed. Barricade Books, 2002, 342 pp. List: $22; AET:
>>>$15.
>
>>>Reviewed by Sara Powell
>>>It’s no secret that Zionism embraced political expediency to advance
>>>the cause of carving Eretz-Israel from the land of its native
>>>inhabitants. In his 1983 book, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators,
>>>Lenni Brenner shows that 20th century Zionists observed shockingly few
>>>limits to that expediency. Not surprisingly, the book received little
>>>coverage in the American media. Now, in 51 Documents, Brenner has
>>>compiled a wide variety of letters, statements, articles, and
>>>judgements—some of which appeared in his earlier book—by a broad array
>>>of activists and authors, that documents Zionist cooperration with the
>>>Nazis. On the face of it, the notion seems absurd. However, Brenner
>>>presents the case—made in many Zionists’ own words—that the Nazi
>>>agenda of expelling the Jews from Germany fit nicely with the Zionist
>>>plan for enticing those Jews into settling in Palestine and creating a
>>>new Jewish nation. 
>>>
>>>In addition to introductory and concluding chapters, the book is
>>>organized into five sections which lead the reader through early,
>>>pre-Zionist documents; pre-Holocaust ideological factions; the
>>>Holocaust era itself; and a chapter on the Stern Gang and the Nazis.
>>>Readers should note that a few documents are not indicative of
>>>collaboration in and of themselves, but provide the background to
>>>others written in response. These latter do indicate levels of
>>>collaboration between Zionists and fascists, both the Nazis in
>>>Germany, and those in Mussolini’s Italy. Brenner’s brief explanatory
>>>notes at the beginning of each document are helpful, as are the
>>>glossary and index.
>>>
>>>51 Documents assumes a certain knowledge of Zionist history, and
>>>requires a close reading and some deconstructive efforts on the part
>>>of the reader. Those willing to commit the time and effort, however,
>>>are rewarded with some stunning revelations. The reason some Zionists
>>>eschewed the boycott against Hitler’s Germany, for instance, is that
>>>they had a financial deal—Ha’avara—with Germany allowing Jews to
>>>exchange their wealth for goods to be exported to Palestine at less of
>>>a loss, as an incentive to emigrate. Those wondering why Zionists
>>>today are so organized and experienced in their public relations
>>>efforts discover that these battles have been fought before. Moreover,
>>>the section on Nazi and Zionist understandings of “nationality” versus
>>>citizenship reveals how German and Israeli practices are based on the
>>>same concept. 
>>>
>>>51 Documents also sheds a whole new light on the term “Holocaust
>>>guilt,” frequently understood to mean Western, non-Jewish guilt for
>>>not acting against the Holocaust earlier. However, these documents
>>>make it clear that Holocaust guilt began with those Zionists who made
>>>the undoubtedly difficult, but politically expedient choice to place
>>>Eretz-Israel at the top of their priorities, above the lives of their
>>>threatened European brethren.
>>>
>>>From a Zionist Executive Meeting speech by Yitzhak Gruenbaum on Feb.
>>>18, 1943:
>>>
>>>And when some asked me: “Can’t you give money from Keren Ha Yesod
>>>(Palestine Foundation Fund) to save Jews in the Diaspora?” I said:
>>>“No!” And again I say no....And, because of these things, people
>>>called me an anti-Semite, and concluded that I’m guilty, for the fact
>>>that we don’t give ourselves completely to rescue actions. (p. 211)
>>>
>>>However difficult it may be, the reader must confront some rather
>>>disturbing conclusions. The most unsettling realization for this
>>>reviewer is that pre-Holocaust Zionists were able to politically align
>>>themselves with the Nazis because both groups fundamentally saw race
>>>as an important dividing line—and, moreover, were determined to keep
>>>it that way. From Vladimir Jabotinsky to Albert Einstein,
>>>“assimilation” of Jews into the societies in which they lived was not
>>>an acceptable option. Rather, Jewish nationalism required equality on
>>>a national level, not a personal one. As Jabotinsky explained, “It is
>>>impossible for a man to become assimilated with people whose blood is
>>>different from his own” (p. 10); in Einstein’s words, “Palestine is
>>>first and foremost not a refuge for East European Jews, but the
>>>incarnation of a reawakening sense of national solidarity” (p. 29).
>>>Finally, David Yisraeli, a member of the Stern Gang, wrote the
>>>following in late 1940, as part of a proposal to Hitler. It was
>>>delivered in 1941 to two German diplomats in Lebanon.
>>>
>>>3. The establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and
>>>totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would be
>>>in the interest of a maintained and strengthened future German
>>>position of power in the Near East (p. 301).
>>>
>>>Such beliefs, of course, were not limited to Nazis and Zionists.
>>>Scientific and philosophical constructs of the day considered such
>>>differentiation legitimate, and ideas of racial difference—and,
>>>therefore, racial supremacy—were practiced around the world.
>>>
>>>Another disturbing conclusion a reader must inevitably face is that
>>>Zionists learned both tactical and political lessons from the Nazis
>>>and that, even today, these lessons are applied to further the Zionist
>>>cause. Although most likely known to potential readers of this book,
>>>another disturbing element is the cover-up of the less than savory
>>>roles of current Israeli leaders, including former prime ministers, in
>>>the terrorist Irgun and Stern Gang just before, during, and after the
>>>Holocaust. Likewise, the succumbing of various U.S. officials to
>>>Zionist pressure is a familiar, but distressing, story.
>>>
>>>51 Documents seems to represent a renewed attempt by Brenner to bring
>>>information regarding Zionist collaboration with the Nazis to U.S.
>>>supporters of Israel, as well as to Jews and Muslims, in order to
>>>expand dialogue with knowledge, and save lives—both Palestinian and
>>>Israeli—in the process. Readers of 51 Documents will find it difficult
>>>not to remove the rose colored glasses that so many seem to wear when
>>>examining Zionism.
>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
>is a revolutionary act." 
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages. 
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant
>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
>is a revolutionary act." 
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages. 
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant
>
>
>Posted by: 
>Patrick Lee Humphrey
>7500 Bellerive #1807
>Houston, Texas 77036-3040
>1-713-266-7764
>
>Steven Horn (KCOM)
>1836 NW 11th St
>Oklahoma City, OK 73106
>(405) 524-0576
>
>together with
>Boris Dynin  = NAMBLA executive & 
>Henry 
>CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even 
>VISIT me at:
>55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco  94132
>
>We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>
>
>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>office: VISIT at:
>#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>or call: 1-250-616-9431
>
>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
>called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
>should give an indication as to the why.
>
>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>
>Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked"?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>
>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
>to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>
>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late
>nights.
>
>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
>send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>work:(780)492-0473
>
>And also: George Firestone: "George" 
>
>Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!
>
>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com
>
>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>IHR - www.ihr.org
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
>
>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>
>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>
>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>
>In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>for many years around the world.
>
>Reply-To: "George" 
>
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Subject: Wish To Dispose of Dealer Stock-$3 Million CV

Gentlemen:
We seek a buyer of all our stock, for cash payable to our bankers.
Approximately $3 million CV, with main areas of interest:
GB
Canada
Germany
Commonwealth
France
USA
Australia
Austria
Switzerland
Israel
etc.

If interested, kindly advise.
The reason for sale, eyesight going blind.
We are NOT interested in consigning, or auction, only full cash sale.
We mean CASH for the buyer to take all, not cheques, drafts, or whatever.
May consider part swap for something significant, such as clear title cottage,
motorhome, or?
We are located in northern Canada.

Reply to: JoeBlough@operamail.com

P.S. Nigerian Scam and similar just disregarded as worthless.



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In a banner headline story on page B2 of the Edmonton Journal for Thursday 19
October 2006, it states that GEKO was bought by a Canadian business GEEP Inc,
based in Barrie Canada.

GEEP is building the computer recycling plant in Edmonton Canada, at a cost of
only C$10 million, which should open in March 2007. This replaces the alleged
$32 million plant that GEKO claimed it would build, following their press
announcement years ago!!

Wallace MacKay of GEEP claims to have bought GEKO. GEKO claimed to be 
able to recycle computers, but MacKay asserts that GEKO never had expertise 
to recycle electronics.

GEEP (Global Electric Electronic Processing) is part of Barrie Metals Group.

So, the question is, war GEKO vor der Pleite, in other words did GEKO go belly
up? What happened to the 32 Million?


On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:30:28 GMT, panPiotrGlownia 
wrote:

>Nochmal fragen - 
>Wenn es wirklich kein Plant in Kanada gibt, dann wer hat die 32
>MILLIONEN?  Ist GEKO dann kaput?
>
>Kann Bundesfinanzamt erklaeren?

>>On Tue, 16 May 2006 17:04:45 GMT, Asterix
>> wrote:
>>>On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 11:58:34 -0600, Chief Instigator
>>> wrote:
>>
>>>>In a half page headline story in the Edmonton Journal today 15 August 2005,
>>>>the report complains that even after more than 3 years, THERE IS STILL NOT
>>>>EVEN THE START OF CONSTRUCTION OF THE GEKO GARBAGE 
>>>>COMPUTER RECYCLING PLANT IN EDMONTON,CANADA!!
>>>
>>>>Because of the non-existence of the GEKO recycling plant, there is now 3235
>>>>tonnes of computers piled at the site. This has caused criticism from the
>>>>Electronic Recycling Corporation of Alberta, who recycle usable computers for
>>>>charities. They see the waste of usable computers in the open air stockpiles,
>>>>in mud and water because GEKO is not functioning, as being against the best
>>>>interests of the public, and charities.
>>>
>>>>Dieter Obergfell, of GEKO, explaining from Essen, , now claims that
>>>>construction MIGHT start this August, 3 years later than originally proposed.
>>>
>>>Bis jetzt, keine Plant!!
>>>Wo ist 32 Millionen?
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: Ken Levi 
>>>>Newsgroups:
>>>>de.soc.wirtschaft,de.soc.politik.misc,soc.culture.german,soc.culture.germany
>>>>Subject: Re: GEKO-Who Is Pocketing Extra $28 MILLION?? WER
>>>>PROFITIERT,Bundesfinanzamt?
>>>>Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:28:28 -0700
>>>
>>>>When GEKO claims that they will be spending more than 10 TIMES what
>>>>the successful competitor MAXUS paid for their plant, and when MAXUS
>>>>even paid for their land which GEKO will not, one has to ask, WHO IS
>>>>GETTING THE EXTRA 28 MILLIONEN??
>>>
>>>>Has Bundesfinanzamt approved the removal of the more than 30 millionen
>>>>from Germany?
>>>
>>>>Have the shareholders of GEKO been given all the facts regarding the
>>>>disappearance of this money from their control?
>>>
>>>>
>>>>On 9 Nov 2004 00:39:27 -0000, Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header
>>>>(DanChristensen) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Here in Canada, people have another extremely interesting question, which manager of
>>>>>GEKO Recycling Technologies Dieter Obergfell can not answer!!
>>>>>WHY IS THE EDMONTON CANADA GARBAGE PROJECT FOR GEKO GOING TO COST 30 MILLIONEN,
>>>>>since they do not have to pay for the land of 5 acres?
>>>>
>>>>>In the nearby community of Ryley, the competitor doing the same work,
>>>>>MAXUS TECHNOLOGTY CORPORATION, paid under
>>>>>$3 millionen, which included the cost for their land!!
>>>>
>>>>>WHO IS POCKETING THE EXTRA $27 MILLIONEN? WER PROFITIERT?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>An interesting question for Deutsche Bundesfinanzamt - Did GEKO pay the taxes 
>>>>>in Germany, on the 30 million they say they will spend/lose
>>>>>in Edmonton, Canada?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>A local paper in Edmonton,Canada is reporting that the firm GEKO, division of DiHAG/GEKO
>>>>>is supposed to be spending $30 million for a computer recycling plant at the 
>>>>>local garbage dump.
>>>>
>>>>>It is not clear why GEKO are building this overpriced facility.
>>>>
>>>>>For more than 3 years, a competitor, MAXUS Technology Corporation, has been in 
>>>>>business in a nearby town.
>>>>>MAXUS have also made contracts with communities throughout western Canada and 
>>>>>also the USA, to have trainloads of computers and similar
>>>>>materials available for processing, leaving next to no product for GEKO!!
>>>>
>>>>>Because GEKO did NOT build when they said they would, 2 years ago, the mayor 
>>>>>was defeated in his bid for re- election this week!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Subject: Germany Continues Boycott of Deadmonton
>>>>>Date: 1999/07/25
>>>>>Message-ID: <199907251430.QAA17273@mail.replay.com>#1/1
>>>>>Newsgroups: edm.general,ab.general,soc.culture.german
>>>>
>>>>>The media report that no businesses from Germany bothered
>>>>>to attend this year's Klondike Days in Deadmonton, (Edmonton)Canada
>>>>
>>>>>Even though GERMANY was the featured nation.
>>>>
>>>>>Could this perhaps have something to do with the snubbing
>>>>>by Burgermeister ARSCHLOCH Smith, of the international trade
>>>>>delegation from Germany, whom he REFUSED to meet?
>>>>
>>>>>Smith refused to meet with the large delegation of people from Berlin,
>>>>>who had been scheduled by both the provincial government trade office,
>>>>>as well as City Hall.
>>>>
>>>>>The trade delegation after being snubbed by Smith, then went on to
>>>>>Calgary, where they were welcomed. They also did do considerable
>>>>>business, in the pro-business city, unlike the welfare  dump of
>>>>>Deadmonton.
>>>>
>>>>>This INTERNATIONAL INCIDENT was documented in detail in the
>>>>>Edmonton Journal 3 times - 1 December 1995 on page B2,
>>>>>on 12 January 1996 on page B3, and again on 28 March 1996 on page A14.
>>>>
>>>>>The media in Germany carried many articles, denouncing the
>>>>>anti-German actions of Burgermeister ARSCHLOCH.
>>>>
>>>>>It seems that even though slick Willy squanders piles of
>>>>>taxpayer dollars wining and dining and traipsing off to
>>>>>Germany, the businesspeople there still remember him as
>>>>>Burgermeister Arschloch.
>>>>
>>>>>That is why Deadmonton is still blackballed by thinking Germans.
>>>>
>>>>>Now, slick Willy is trying to con some Germans running GEKO to
>>>>>build a recycling plant for computers, WITHOUT TELLING THEM THAT
>>>>>THEY ARE TOO LATE!!
>>>>
>>>>>Another local firm MAXUS TECHNOLOGY INC. has built a multi-million dollar 
>>>>>facility near Edmonton, already operating, to handle millions of tonnes of old computers from all over 
>>>>>Canada and the USA!!
>>>>
>>>>>Are Germans so stupid as to believe a mayor, whose own business as
>>>>>a used tire dealer went under?? Ask Michelin about B & D Tiretown,
>>>>>or even ask Jan Reimer who brought it up in the election campaign...
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Man muss wundern, wer hat die $32 MILLIONEN, wenn das Plant existiert nicht?


On Mon, 29 May 2006 12:14:42 -0600, Joe Bruno  wrote:

>In a half page headline story in the Edmonton Journal today in December, the
>report complains that even after more than 3 years, THERE IS STILL NOT EVEN
>THE START OF CONSTRUCTION OF THE GEKO GARBAGE COMPUTER 
>RECYCLING PLANT IN EDMONTON,CANADA!!
>
>Because of the non-existence of the GEKO recycling plant, there is now 3235
>tonnes of computers piled at the site. This has caused criticism from the
>Electronic Recycling Corporation of Alberta, who recycle usable computers for
>charities. They see the waste of usable computers in the open air stockpiles,
>in mud and water because GEKO is not functioning, as being against the best
>interests of the public, and charities.
>
>Dieter Obergfell, of GEKO, explaining from Essen, , now claims that
>construction MIGHT start this August, 3 years later than originally proposed.
>
>From: Ken Levi 
>Newsgroups:
>de.soc.wirtschaft,de.soc.politik.misc,soc.culture.german,soc.culture.germany
>Subject: Re: GEKO-Who Is Pocketing Extra $28 MILLION?? WER
>PROFITIERT,Bundesfinanzamt?
>Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:28:28 -0700
>
>When GEKO claims that they will be spending more than 10 TIMES what
>the successful competitor MAXUS paid for their plant, and when MAXUS
>even paid for their land which GEKO will not, one has to ask, WHO IS
>GETTING THE EXTRA 28 MILLIONEN??
>
>Has Bundesfinanzamt approved the removal of the more than 30 millionen
>from Germany?
>
>Have the shareholders of GEKO been given all the facts regarding the
>disappearance of this money from their control?
>
>
>On 9 Nov 2004 00:39:27 -0000, Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header
>(DanChristensen) wrote:
>
>>Here in Canada, people have another extremely interesting question, which manager of
>>GEKO Recycling Technologies Dieter Obergfell can not answer!!
>>WHY IS THE EDMONTON CANADA GARBAGE PROJECT FOR GEKO GOING TO COST 30 MILLIONEN,
>>since they do not have to pay for the land of 5 acres?
>
>>In the nearby community of Ryley, the competitor doing the same work,
>>MAXUS TECHNOLOGTY CORPORATION, paid under
>>$3 millionen, which included the cost for their land!!
>
>>WHO IS POCKETING THE EXTRA $27 MILLIONEN? WER PROFITIERT?
>
>
>>An interesting question for Deutsche Bundesfinanzamt - Did GEKO pay the taxes 
>>in Germany, on the 30 million they say they will spend/lose
>>in Edmonton, Canada?
>
>
>>A local paper in Edmonton,Canada is reporting that the firm GEKO, division of DiHAG/GEKO
>>is supposed to be spending $30 million for a computer recycling plant at the 
>>local garbage dump.
>
>>It is not clear why GEKO are building this overpriced facility.
>
>>For more than 3 years, a competitor, MAXUS Technology Corporation, has been in 
>>business in a nearby town.
>>MAXUS have also made contracts with communities throughout western Canada and 
>>also the USA, to have trainloads of computers and similar
>>materials available for processing, leaving next to no product for GEKO!!
>
>>Because GEKO did NOT build when they said they would, 2 years ago, the mayor 
>>was defeated in his bid for re- election this week!!
>
>
>>Subject: Germany Continues Boycott of Deadmonton
>>Date: 1999/07/25
>>Message-ID: <199907251430.QAA17273@mail.replay.com>#1/1
>>Newsgroups: edm.general,ab.general,soc.culture.german
>
>>The media report that no businesses from Germany bothered
>>to attend this year's Klondike Days in Deadmonton, (Edmonton)Canada
>
>>Even though GERMANY was the featured nation.
>
>>Could this perhaps have something to do with the snubbing
>>by Burgermeister ARSCHLOCH Smith, of the international trade
>>delegation from Germany, whom he REFUSED to meet?
>
>>Smith refused to meet with the large delegation of people from Berlin,
>>who had been scheduled by both the provincial government trade office,
>>as well as City Hall.
>
>>The trade delegation after being snubbed by Smith, then went on to
>>Calgary, where they were welcomed. They also did do considerable
>>business, in the pro-business city, unlike the welfare  dump of
>>Deadmonton.
>
>>This INTERNATIONAL INCIDENT was documented in detail in the
>>Edmonton Journal 3 times - 1 December 1995 on page B2,
>>on 12 January 1996 on page B3, and again on 28 March 1996 on page A14.
>
>>The media in Germany carried many articles, denouncing the
>>anti-German actions of Burgermeister ARSCHLOCH.
>
>>It seems that even though slick Willy squanders piles of
>>taxpayer dollars wining and dining and traipsing off to
>>Germany, the businesspeople there still remember him as
>>Burgermeister Arschloch.
>
>>That is why Deadmonton is still blackballed by thinking Germans.
>
>>Now, slick Willy is trying to con some Germans running GEKO to
>>build a recycling plant for computers, WITHOUT TELLING THEM THAT
>>THEY ARE TOO LATE!!
>
>>Another local firm MAXUS TECHNOLOGY INC. has built a multi-million dollar 
>>facility near Edmonton, already operating, to handle millions of tonnes of old computers from all over 
>>Canada and the USA!!
>
>>Are Germans so stupid as to believe a mayor, whose own business as
>>a used tire dealer went under?? Ask Michelin about B & D Tiretown,
>>or even ask Jan Reimer who brought it up in the election campaign...
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From: The Truth Seeker 
Subject: 51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 12:53:13 +0000 (UTC)

51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis.
[Not forgetting KASTNER, RUMKOWSKI and WIESENTHAL]

By Lenni Brenner

Lenni Brenner has collated documents that relate to how the Zionist movement
collaborated with German Nazism and Italian Fascism. Given the subsequent
Holocaust against the Jews by the Nazis, many will be surprised and appalled
that a political movement, which supposedly supported Jewish liberation, was
prepared to collaborate with the most anti-semitic of regimes.

Among the documents is the relatively well known and infamous ŒStern Gang
Proposal¹ in which the organisation of future Israeli PM Yitzhak Shamir offers
to join in WWII on Œthe side of the German Reich¹. There is also the
embarrassing documents of the German Zionists who saw the Nazis as fellow
nationalists and were thus sympathetic to ŒGerman national renewal¹, the
memoirs of an SS officer who stays in Palestine as the guest of the Zionist
movement for 6 months.

These acts of collaboration were not limited to the right wing fringe of the
Zionist movement but went to the heart of the Zionist Labour establishment
when the head of the Haganah, Feival Polkes, became a willing paid informer of
the Gestapo. He was even handled by one of the architects of the Final
Solution, Adolf Eichmann, who also travelled to Palestine to liaise with the
Zionists.

These shocking historical documents will make you realise that the history of
the political movement which founded the state of Israel is not quite what it
seems.

They also prove that Zionists will do *anything* to protect their precious
political movement, even if it means sacrificing several million Jews in the
process, then exploiting their suffering to secure the greater goal of a
Zionist State.

The Truth Seeker has spoken.


On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 11:08:04 -0700, Ken McVayAIDS/SOB  wrote:
>Reply-To: "George" ,
>PRAWDA!
>
>On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:14:47 -0700, Heinrich Himmelfarb
> wrote:
>
>>The story documented below means that the KASTNER CASE was not an
>>isolated incident!!
>
>Now even Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to be a Nazi GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!
>
>
>>On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:25:52 GMT, c@c.cc wrote:
>>> 51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis  
>
>>>September 2004, page 86 
>
>>>Book Review
>
>>>51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis
>>>By Lenni Brenner, ed. Barricade Books, 2002, 342 pp. List: $22; AET:
>>>$15.
>
>>>Reviewed by Sara Powell
>>>It’s no secret that Zionism embraced political expediency to advance
>>>the cause of carving Eretz-Israel from the land of its native
>>>inhabitants. In his 1983 book, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators,
>>>Lenni Brenner shows that 20th century Zionists observed shockingly few
>>>limits to that expediency. Not surprisingly, the book received little
>>>coverage in the American media. Now, in 51 Documents, Brenner has
>>>compiled a wide variety of letters, statements, articles, and
>>>judgements—some of which appeared in his earlier book—by a broad array
>>>of activists and authors, that documents Zionist cooperration with the
>>>Nazis. On the face of it, the notion seems absurd. However, Brenner
>>>presents the case—made in many Zionists’ own words—that the Nazi
>>>agenda of expelling the Jews from Germany fit nicely with the Zionist
>>>plan for enticing those Jews into settling in Palestine and creating a
>>>new Jewish nation. 
>>>
>>>In addition to introductory and concluding chapters, the book is
>>>organized into five sections which lead the reader through early,
>>>pre-Zionist documents; pre-Holocaust ideological factions; the
>>>Holocaust era itself; and a chapter on the Stern Gang and the Nazis.
>>>Readers should note that a few documents are not indicative of
>>>collaboration in and of themselves, but provide the background to
>>>others written in response. These latter do indicate levels of
>>>collaboration between Zionists and fascists, both the Nazis in
>>>Germany, and those in Mussolini’s Italy. Brenner’s brief explanatory
>>>notes at the beginning of each document are helpful, as are the
>>>glossary and index.
>>>
>>>51 Documents assumes a certain knowledge of Zionist history, and
>>>requires a close reading and some deconstructive efforts on the part
>>>of the reader. Those willing to commit the time and effort, however,
>>>are rewarded with some stunning revelations. The reason some Zionists
>>>eschewed the boycott against Hitler’s Germany, for instance, is that
>>>they had a financial deal—Ha’avara—with Germany allowing Jews to
>>>exchange their wealth for goods to be exported to Palestine at less of
>>>a loss, as an incentive to emigrate. Those wondering why Zionists
>>>today are so organized and experienced in their public relations
>>>efforts discover that these battles have been fought before. Moreover,
>>>the section on Nazi and Zionist understandings of “nationality” versus
>>>citizenship reveals how German and Israeli practices are based on the
>>>same concept. 
>>>
>>>51 Documents also sheds a whole new light on the term “Holocaust
>>>guilt,” frequently understood to mean Western, non-Jewish guilt for
>>>not acting against the Holocaust earlier. However, these documents
>>>make it clear that Holocaust guilt began with those Zionists who made
>>>the undoubtedly difficult, but politically expedient choice to place
>>>Eretz-Israel at the top of their priorities, above the lives of their
>>>threatened European brethren.
>>>
>>>From a Zionist Executive Meeting speech by Yitzhak Gruenbaum on Feb.
>>>18, 1943:
>>>
>>>And when some asked me: “Can’t you give money from Keren Ha Yesod
>>>(Palestine Foundation Fund) to save Jews in the Diaspora?” I said:
>>>“No!” And again I say no....And, because of these things, people
>>>called me an anti-Semite, and concluded that I’m guilty, for the fact
>>>that we don’t give ourselves completely to rescue actions. (p. 211)
>>>
>>>However difficult it may be, the reader must confront some rather
>>>disturbing conclusions. The most unsettling realization for this
>>>reviewer is that pre-Holocaust Zionists were able to politically align
>>>themselves with the Nazis because both groups fundamentally saw race
>>>as an important dividing line—and, moreover, were determined to keep
>>>it that way. From Vladimir Jabotinsky to Albert Einstein,
>>>“assimilation” of Jews into the societies in which they lived was not
>>>an acceptable option. Rather, Jewish nationalism required equality on
>>>a national level, not a personal one. As Jabotinsky explained, “It is
>>>impossible for a man to become assimilated with people whose blood is
>>>different from his own” (p. 10); in Einstein’s words, “Palestine is
>>>first and foremost not a refuge for East European Jews, but the
>>>incarnation of a reawakening sense of national solidarity” (p. 29).
>>>Finally, David Yisraeli, a member of the Stern Gang, wrote the
>>>following in late 1940, as part of a proposal to Hitler. It was
>>>delivered in 1941 to two German diplomats in Lebanon.
>>>
>>>3. The establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and
>>>totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would be
>>>in the interest of a maintained and strengthened future German
>>>position of power in the Near East (p. 301).
>>>
>>>Such beliefs, of course, were not limited to Nazis and Zionists.
>>>Scientific and philosophical constructs of the day considered such
>>>differentiation legitimate, and ideas of racial difference—and,
>>>therefore, racial supremacy—were practiced around the world.
>>>
>>>Another disturbing conclusion a reader must inevitably face is that
>>>Zionists learned both tactical and political lessons from the Nazis
>>>and that, even today, these lessons are applied to further the Zionist
>>>cause. Although most likely known to potential readers of this book,
>>>another disturbing element is the cover-up of the less than savory
>>>roles of current Israeli leaders, including former prime ministers, in
>>>the terrorist Irgun and Stern Gang just before, during, and after the
>>>Holocaust. Likewise, the succumbing of various U.S. officials to
>>>Zionist pressure is a familiar, but distressing, story.
>>>
>>>51 Documents seems to represent a renewed attempt by Brenner to bring
>>>information regarding Zionist collaboration with the Nazis to U.S.
>>>supporters of Israel, as well as to Jews and Muslims, in order to
>>>expand dialogue with knowledge, and save lives—both Palestinian and
>>>Israeli—in the process. Readers of 51 Documents will find it difficult
>>>not to remove the rose colored glasses that so many seem to wear when
>>>examining Zionism.
>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
>is a revolutionary act." 
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages. 
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant
>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
>is a revolutionary act." 
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages. 
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant
>
>
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>
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>
>together with
>Boris Dynin  = NAMBLA executive & 
>Henry 
>CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even 
>VISIT me at:
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>
>We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>
>
>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>office: VISIT at:
>#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>or call: 1-250-616-9431
>
>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
>called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
>should give an indication as to the why.
>
>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>
>Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked"?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>
>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
>to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>
>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late
>nights.
>
>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
>send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>work:(780)492-0473
>
>And also: George Firestone: "George" 
>
>Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!
>
>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com
>
>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>IHR - www.ihr.org
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
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>
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>
>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>
>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>
>In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>for many years around the world.


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On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 00:31:38 -0500, FLDENGR  wrote:

>When will you dick heads in Edmonton give it up and realise that 

It is very interesting, that the Canadian Legion are now complaining about the
white poppy campaign for PEACE.

Notice they did NOT complain about the former liberal government designating a
separate day for the ZYD HOLOHOAX DAY!!

If the legion are so concerned about Remembrance Day, why no protest about the
separate day just for the ZYDS?


On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 11:52:57 -0700, Felix Dzerzhinsky 
wrote:

Header asks a very relevant question, especially now that there are at least
52 well-documented cases of ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS, 
not forgetting the notorious KASTNER  CASE!!

Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is exposed as a Nazi GESTAPO
COLLABORATOR!!

Why a special day, paid by taxpayers, just for the Christkiller ZHIDS?


>On 1 Feb 2005 03:38:19 -0000, Hans Wapnigg  wrote:
>>From: Nemo 
>>Newsgroups: can.politics,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.democrats.d,alt.politics.british,aus.politics
>>Subject: Holocaust Memorial Day Should Include Victims Of  All Holocausts Of 20th Century--Not Just Jews
>>Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 05:42:23 MST (pd7tw1no)

>>This day of commiseration should not be limited only to the victims of
>>the Jewish Holocaust perpetrated by European socialists (Nazis and
>>Commies) and their sympathizers during World War II.

>>It should be in sympathy for the tens of millions of victims of
>>Lenin and Stalin in the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe. For example,
>>the massacre of the Kulaks in Ukraine and Russia. The massacre of Polish
>>officers at Katyn by Stalin's Soviet troops which the Commies tried to
>>blame this on their socialist cousins, Hitler's Nazis.

>>The 1 million Armenians massacred by the Turks is also a holocaust that
>>should be commemorated. Then there is the tens of millions of Chinese
>>murdered by Mao in his "Great Leap Forward" and "Cultural Revolution".

>>The genocides by Pol Pot in Cambodia and Mengistu in Ethiopia should
>>also be remembered. And let us not forget the horrible genocide in
>>Ruwanda in the the 1990s in which over 900,000 perished.

>>The fact is that during the 20th century more than 100 million people
>>were murdered by socialists (Commies, Nazis). The six million Jews
>>killed by the Nazis and Communists during WW II are only a fraction
>>(less than 10%) of the total number of victims of the bloodiest century
>>in world history.

>>Notice that disgusting dying AIDS-spreader pervert Ken McVay, refuses to
>>discuss the SUBJECT of the article, because his JEW masters do not
>>want all the sheeple in Canada to start to THINK!!

>>None of the other groups of victims in Canada,or in Europe have received the 
>>same treatment, just the cursed JEWS!!

>>The Acadians of Canada did not get similar treatment from the Jew-controlled
>>government.
>>All the aboriginals murdered by the whites in Canada and USA, and Australia,
>>get no such treatment.
>>All the Ukrainians kept in concentration camps IN CANADA got no such
>>recognition, let alone all the many millions killed by the
>>JEW-controlled Soviets!!
>>There are many groups of people in Canada, and Australia, New Zealand, and 
>>Europe, who are fed up with the special treatment given to those they blame for having 
>>CHRIST killed!!


>>LisaMcVay@wowmail.com (LisaMcVay) wrote in message 
>>news:<9679f676.0311291332.73304b41@posting.google.com>...
>>> How can it be hateful, to complain legitimately about the preferential
>>> treatment given one disgusting group of creatures?

>>> For 2000 years people worldwide have had to suffer at the hands of
>>> those who had Christ murdered, because He exposed their scandalous
>>> conduct in the Jew temples.

>>> Now, Canadians must continue paying for a special holiday, just to
>>> commemmorate the HOLOHOAX!!

>>> No consideration is given to the more than 100 MILLIONS KILLED BY ZHID
>>> COMMUNISM!!


>>Now that normal people have celebrated the real Remembrance Day,
>>supposedly covering all victims of all wars, we can now wonder why
>>should there be another costly day, just for the cursed ZHIDS!!

>>Why should Canadians have to pay each year, and celebrate
>>HOLOHOAX Day, just for the nuisance ZHIDS? Is it true that
>>the filthy ZHIDS, like the BRONFMANs, control Canada?
>>Why should Canadian businesses have to pay for another
>>worthless statutory holiday, and pay staff for NOT WORKING,
>>just to satisfy some ZHIDS?

>>We already have Remembrance Day, supposedly to remember ALL
>>who died in ALL WARS.

>>We do not celebrate the HOLOCAUST of the Armenians by the Turks.
>>We do not celebrate the NANKING massacre of the Chinese by Japan.
>>We do not celebrate the genocide of German POWs in concentration
>>camps by the Allies in 1945-6.

>>Canada doesn't even celebrate the Ukrainian HOLOCAUST/FAMINE murders
>>of the tens of millions in the 1930's.
>>Canada does not celebrate the 100 millions killed by the ZHID Soviets before 
>>and during WW2.
>>Canada does not celebrate the tens of thousands of innocent Palestinians 
>>murdered by the Israeli occupation forces.Have you forgotten Sabra and Shatilla?

>>Canada doesn't celebrate the tens of thousands of natives it killed, so why the 
>>ZHIDS?
>>Australia does not celebrate all the abos killed since the British occupied 
>>Australia.

>>So why should we have a ZHID DAY?!!

>>Is it true that the BRONFMAN ZHIDS - who cheated the Canadian Tax Department
>>of unpaid $1,500 MILLIONS in taxes - do control the Canadian Government?
>>The gutless politicians who approved this discrimination should be  exterminated!!

>>Complain to your MPs, and let them know, you are fed up with ZHID control of 
>>Canada, Australia,or wherever you live!!

>>Why should sovereign countries in Europe have to kowtow to the disgusting 
>>Christkiller ZHIDS,
>>and have a special day, just for them, when they have no such special day for 
>>those of their own people who were killed by, or because of the ZHIDS?


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant



For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


>REMEMBRANCE day is for remembrance of our WAR dead and not our hippy 
>pothead NDP's who yelled peace!? It's for those who had the guts to 
>think about GOD and country and gave everything they had to protect 
>Canada and our freedoms!! Red is the colour and it's that way for a 
>reason, you want a peace day take it up with Jack Layton otherwise shut 
>the f--k up and get with the program!!



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Subject: Wish To Dispose of Dealer Stock-$3 Million CV

We seek a buyer of all our stock, for cash payable to our bankers.
Approximately $3 million CV, with main areas of interest:
GB
Canada
Germany
Commonwealth
France
USA
Australia
Austria
Switzerland
Israel
etc.

If interested, kindly advise.
The reason for sale, eyesight going blind.
We are NOT interested in consigning, or auction, only full cash sale.
We mean CASH for the buyer to take all, not cheques, drafts, or whatever.
May consider part swap for something significant, such as clear title cottage,
motorhome, or?
We are located in northern Canada.

Reply to: JoeBlough@operamail.com

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On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 18:09:52 +0000, milou  wrote:

Apparently you are some worthless welfare recipient, without any pot to even
pee in, so you definitely would not have any cash with which to buy...

>On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 17:10:20 GMT, ProBonoPublico
> wrote:
>
>>Subject: Wish To Dispose o
>

>So you keep spamming usenet about your garbage.



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On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 18:09:52 +0000, milou  wrote:

Apparently you are some worthless welfare recipient, without any pot to even
pee in, so you definitely would not have any cash with which to buy...

>On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 17:10:20 GMT, ProBonoPublico
> wrote:
Subject: Wish To Dispose of Dealer Stock-$3 Million CV

We seek a buyer of all our stock, for cash payable to our bankers.
Approximately $3 million CV, with main areas of interest:
GB
Canada
Germany
Commonwealth
France
USA
Australia
Austria
Switzerland
Israel
etc.

If interested, kindly advise.
The reason for sale, eyesight going blind.
We are NOT interested in consigning, or auction, only full cash sale.
We mean CASH for the buyer to take all, not cheques, drafts, or whatever.
May consider part swap for something significant, such as clear title cottage,
motorhome, or?
We are located in northern Canada.

Reply to: JoeBlough@operamail.com

P.S. Nigerian Scam and similar just disregarded as worthless.

>So you keep spamming usenet about your garbage.



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When your wife, daughter or girlfriend is sold into sex slavery for the ZYDS,
then perhaps you might have some compassions!!

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:53:59 -0400, Vladimir Makarenko
 wrote:

>According to number of times you posted it here there left no Christian
>girls to sell. And we Christians don't give a damn about girls of other
>confessions. 
>Could you please switch to some alt.business?
>VM.

>Chief Instigator wrote:
>> On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 10:04:35 -0700, Susan Shiksa Cohen
>>  wrote:

>> Russian girls who are beautiful, as well as Polish and Ukrainian
>> girls, are all sold on the open slave markets in ZHID Israel, where
>> white slavery is legal.

>> >On 25 Oct 2004 11:21:36 -0000, DerTavish 
>> >wrote:

>> >>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, convicted of child molesting
>> >>and car theft in California and Oregon, the
>> >>well-known fag in Canada,Fag McVay of Vancouver,
>> >>and still unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of
>> >>the Canadian branch of NAMBLA, finally dying as a diseased
>> >>AIDS-spreader, wants all to know
>> >>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
>> >>Here is the latest.......

>> >>From: Rameses 
>> >>Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian
>> >>Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:40:57 -0700
 
>> >>The June 16 Saturday supplement to the Jerusalem Post reported:

>> >>"Every year hundreds of women, and an unknown number of
>> >>girls under the age of 18, are bought, sold, drugged,
>> >>imprisoned, and forced to work as prostitutes in Israel's
>> >>thriving sex industry.
 
>> >>In countries such as Russia, Ukraine, Latvia, and Hungary,
>> >>traffickers prey on desperate women. Facing poverty, the
>> >>women are lured to Israel with the promise that they will
>> >>make fabulous salaries working as teachers or caregivers.

>> >>In Israel prostitution is not illegal. Nor is there
>> >>legislation against trafficking or slavery".

>> >>With the governments of eastern Europe controlled by the
>> >>evil mafia bosses that profit from this trade, don't
>> >>expect anything to be done about this sickening crime
>> >>against humanity.


>> If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>> then visit  www.freedomsite.org
 
>> Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

>> "At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>> is a revolutionary act."
>> (George Orwell)

>> David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
 
>> "All truth passes through three stages.
>> First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>> and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>> (Arthur Schopenhauer)

>> "The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>> but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>> falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>> they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>> against them -- except force." -- John Bryant

>> "To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>> acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>> and impossible to ignore."
>> --John Bryant


>> Posted by:
>> Steven Horn (KCOM)
>> 1836 NW 11th St
>> Oklahoma City, OK 73106
>> (405) 524-0576

>> together with
 
>> Boris Dynin  = NAMBLA executive &
>> Henry who like
>> late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>> Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>> I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>> We like young children, so that we can train them our way.

>> CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>> Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even
>> VISIT me at:
>> 55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco  94132

>> Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>> office: VISIT at:
>> #5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>> Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>> or call: 1-250-616-9431

>> As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>> called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
>> should give an indication as to the why.

>> "I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>> proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>> yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>> seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>> my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>> moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>> http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>> also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

>> Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
>> a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>> even if he or she were not naked"?
>> http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

>> For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>> background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>> detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>> known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>> It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>> to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

>> Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>> NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>> Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late nights.

>> Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>> Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>> I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
>> send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>> work:(780)492-0473

>> Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>> Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

>> For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>> JEW-WATCH:
>> http://www.jewwatch.com

>> Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>> NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>> people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

>> Or, other useful websites include:
>> ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>> IHR - www.ihr.org
>> OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>> PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>> Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>> AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>> THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>>     Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>>     Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

>> Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>> They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

>> They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>> and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
 
>> As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>> victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>> of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>> May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

>> In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>> for many years around the world.

>> Reply-To: "George" 



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Subject: Wish To Dispose of Dealer Stock-$3 Million CV

We seek a buyer of all our stock, for cash payable to our bankers.
Approximately $3 million CV, with main areas of interest:
GB
Canada
Germany
Commonwealth
France
USA
Australia
Austria
Switzerland
Israel
etc.

If interested, kindly advise.
The reason for sale, eyesight going blind.
We are NOT interested in consigning, or auction, only full cash sale.
We mean CASH for the buyer to take all, not cheques, drafts, or whatever.
May consider part swap for something significant, such as clear title cottage,
motorhome, or?
We are located in northern Canada.

Reply to: JoeBlough@operamail.com

P.S. Nigerian Scam and similar just disregarded as worthless.




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Subject: Wish To Dispose of Dealer Stock-$3 Million CV

We seek a buyer of all our stock, for cash payable to our bankers.
Approximately $3 million CV, with main areas of interest:
GB
Canada
Germany
Commonwealth
France
USA
Australia
Austria
Switzerland
Israel
etc.

If interested, kindly advise.
The reason for sale, eyesight going blind.
We are NOT interested in consigning, or auction, only full cash sale.
We mean CASH for the buyer to take all, not cheques, drafts, or whatever.
May consider part swap for something significant, such as clear title cottage,
motorhome, or?
We are located in northern Canada.

Reply to: JoeBlough@operamail.com

P.S. Nigerian Scam and similar just disregarded as worthless.



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Subject: The "Kosher Nostra Scam" on the American Consumer + KOSHER TAX VIDEO!!
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On 17 Nov 2006 13:38:56 -0800, "Mirelle" ,  in wrote:

>'The amount of money that the non-Jewish consumer has paid the food
>companies to make up for the hidden Jewish Tax is unknown, but it is
>estimated to be in the billions since the scam first started. The
>Orthodox Jewish Councils as well as the food companies keep the amount
>of the fees very secret."
>
>"It is estimated that the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations, which
>manages the (U) symbol protection racket, controls about 85% of the
>"Kosher Nostra " certification business. They now employ about 1200
>Rabbi agents that are spread through out the U.S. Food companies must
>first pay an exorbitant application fee and than a large annual fee for
>the use of the (U) copyright symbol. Secondly, the companies must pay
>separate fees each time a team of Rabbis shows up to "inspect" the
>company's operations. Certain food companies are required to hire
>Rabbis full time at very lucrative salaries."
>
>The "Kosher Nostra Scam" on the American Consumer
>Los Angeles, Alta California - 4/27/2002 - (ACN) La Voz de Aztlan
>receives quite a few "news tips" per week from our many subscribers and
>readers. Some we dismiss immediately but a very few catch our
>attention. Last week we receive an e-mail asking us if we knew the
>significance of the small encircled letter "U" or letter "K" that can
>be found printed on many food cans, food packages and on other kitchen
>products. The message gave us some clues and suggested that we do some
>research into the subject. What we found certainly was "news" to us and
>it both shocked and angered us.
>
>On arriving at my residence, I immediately went to the pantry to verify
>that what I had just learned was actually true. Sure enough, most of
>the packaged and canned foods from major companies, like Proctor &
>Gamble and others, did have the (U), the (K) or other similar markings.
>The Arrowhead water bottle, the instant Folgers Coffee, the Kelloggs
>box, the Jiff Peanut Butter, the Pepper container, the Trader Joe's tea
>box and even the Glads plastic sandwich bags carton had the (U) or (K)
>mark on them.
>
>We needed a little more verification so we called two major companies
>to asked some questions. We chose Proctor & Gamble that markets the
>Folgers Coffee and the Clorox Company that manufactures the Glads
>plastic zip lock sandwich bags. Each of the two companies, as well as
>most others, have 1-800 telephone numbers printed on their packages for
>consumers to call in case they have any questions about their products.
>When we asked the Proctor & Gamble representative what the (U) meant on
>their Folgers Coffee container, she asked us to wait until she
>consulted with her supervisor. She came back and informed us that the
>mark meant that the coffee was " certified kosher". We than asked her
>how and who certified the coffee to be "kosher" and whether it cost any
>money to do so. She refused to answer these and other questions. She
>suggested that we write to their Corporate Public Affairs Department.
>We than called the Clorox Corporation to ask what the (U) meant on the
>package of their Glads plastic sandwich bags and she also said that the
>(U) meant that the plastic bags were "kosher" but refused to answer
>questions concerning payments the Clorox Corporation has to make in
>order to be able to print the (U) on their products.
>
>What we learned next, pretty much floored me personally. I learned that
>major food companies throughout America actually pay a Jewish Tax
>amounting to hundreds of million of dollars per year in order to
>receive protection. This hidden tax gets passed, of course, to all
>non-Jewish consumers of the products. The scam is to coerce the
>companies to pay up or suffer the consequences of a Jewish boycott.
>Jewish consumers have learned not to buy any kitchen product that does
>not have the (U) the (K) and other similar markings.
>
>Another shocker was learning who is actually behind these sophisticated
>"Kosher Nostra Scams." It turns out that the perpetrators of these
>elaborate extortion schemes are actually Rabbinical Councils that are
>set up, not just in the U.S. but in other western countries as well.
>For example, the largest payola operation in the U.S. is run by those
>who license the (U) symbol. The (U) symbol provides protection for many
>products sold here in Aztlan and in the United States. This symbol is
>managed by the The Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations with
>headquarters at 333 Seventh Avenue in New York City.
>
>The scam works like a well oiled machine and is now generating vast
>amounts of funds, some of which are being utilized by the Union of
>Orthodox Rabbis to support the Ariel Sharon Zionist government in
>Israel. The website of the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations is
>full of pro-Israel and anti-Palestinian propaganda.
>
>The "Kosher Nostra" protection racket starts when an Orthodox Rabbi
>approaches a company to warn the owners that unless their product is
>certified as kosher, or "fit for a Jew to eat", they will face a
>boycott by every Jew in America. Most, if not all of the food
>companies, succumb to the blackmail because of fear of the Jewish
>dominated media and a boycott that may eventually culminate in
>bankruptcy. Also, the food companies know that the cost can be passed
>on to the consumer anyway. The food companies have kept secret from the
>general consumer the meaning of the (U) and the amount of money they
>have to pay the Jewish Rabbis.
>
>It is estimated that the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations, which
>manages the (U) symbol protection racket, controls about 85% of the
>"Kosher Nostra " certification business. They now employ about 1200
>Rabbi agents that are spread through out the U.S. Food companies must
>first pay an exorbitant application fee and than a large annual fee for
>the use of the (U) copyright symbol. Secondly, the companies must pay
>separate fees each time a team of Rabbis shows up to "inspect" the
>company's operations. Certain food companies are required to hire
>Rabbis full time at very lucrative salaries.
>
>The amount of money that the non-Jewish consumer has paid the food
>companies to make up for the hidden Jewish Tax is unknown, but it is
>estimated to be in the billions since the scam first started. The
>Orthodox Jewish Councils as well as the food companies keep the amount
>of the fees very secret. The Jewish owned Wall Street Journal wrote
>about the problem many years ago, but they have stopped writing about
>it now.
>
>Only public awareness concerning the "Kosher Nostra Scam" will
>eventually help stop this swindle of the American consumer. Public
>education of the scam may lead to an eventual non-Jewish boycott of all
>products with the (U), (K) or other Jewish protection symbols. I
>certainly do not need to pay extra for "kosher water", "kosher coffee"
>or "kosher plastic sandwich bags". In fact, I demand my money back for
>all I had to pay over the years for the hidden and illegal Jewish Tax.
>Are there any bright attorneys out there that could bring a class
>action suit against the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations on
>behalf of the citizens of Aztlan and other non-Jewish people?
>
>"The Petition to End Kosher Certification Labels and to End the
>Involvement of the Federal Food & Drug Admistration's Participation"

>CLICK ON TO THE FOLLOWING LINK FROM THE LINK BELOW TO GET TO THIS
>ARTICLE.
>"Related La Voz de Aztlan article:
>The "Kosher Nostra Scam" on the American Consumer"----CLICK

>http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.aztlan.net/metzitzah_b_peh.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.aztlan.net/
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>Mirelle

On 24 Sep 2006 15:25:56 -0000, in soc.culture.usa FrankFarber  wrote:

To view the video on the KOSHER TAX, go to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDPdDv7cEZo

From: tyler 
Newsgroups: bc.general,calgary.general,soc.culture.jewish,
alt.revisionism,alt.conspiracy
Subject: Mr. Durden Wins the Match! Knockout of McVay!
Even Israelites Agree!
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Mr. Durden Wins the Match! Knockout of McVay and his jackals!

Here are all the important points that prove McVay has been
lying all along. Lying through his zionist teeth.

1)	US businesses are complaining about kosher tax
       http://www.ustr.gov/reports/nte/1998/israel.pdf

2)	Jewish businesses are complaining about kosher tax
http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2000/01/11/News/News.1181.html

3)	Jewish businesses complain about Rabbinical power:
http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2000/01/11/News/News.1181.html

4)	Rabbinical firms are taking huge amounts out of the pockets of
the consumer for a religious tax that serves only a religious
minority. Circle K alone takes in over 20 million dollars per year.
The estimates do not include the cost that the manufacturer incurs in
equipment changes that are also passed to the consumer.

            Kosher Cooking: Keeping kosher is a big business
      By Peter Sinton / San Francisco Chronicle   April 2001

5) Muslims are not crazy about Kosher Foods:
         http://64.41.98.55/DoMuslimsKnowMay2001.shtml

6) Whenever anyone complains about the rabbinical or kosher tax McVay
and his jackals label them as anti-semitic, immediately! Well are
these Jewish businessmen and lawmakers in Israel also anti-semitic?
      http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2000/01/11/News/News.1181.html

It is clear that the intimidation, name calling and labeling that
McVay and his followers levy against any discussion of this matter is
also leveled at honest American and Canadian businesses. McVay's
behaviour is but an example of the verbal abuse that Zionists and the
rabbinical organizations use to extort money and compliance with
kosher certification.

Using reasoning and deductive logic one can clearly conclude that the
kosher tax is a drain on the gentile purse. It is not FOR the gentile
and it costs many millions and not a trivial amount. Even Jews in
Israel complain! Why in the world don't Americans and Canadians?

The Rabbinical Organizations are economic vampires. They drain money
>from the poorest Canadian and American for food they desparately need
and support a religious minority that practices barbaric acts on
animals. These acts, such as slitting throats of living creatures and
bleeding them to death, have been banned in progressive Sweden.

It's time we found out the truth! It's hard because of the secretive
nature of the Rabbinical organizations, but it can be rooted out!

Yours truly, in triumph,
tyler


Kenneth McVay,SOBC, convicted of child molesting
and car theft in California and Oregon, the
well-known fag in Canada,Fag McVay of Vancouver,
also a convicted car thief and all round molester,
and still unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of
the Canadian branch of NAMBLA, wants all to know
about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
Here is the latest.......

From: tyler 
Newsgroups: edm.general
Subject: The Council of Orthodox Rabbis: Kosher Tax on Canadians?
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Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 05:05:45 GMT

The Council of Orthodox Rabbis: Kosher Tax on Canadians?

The Council of Orthodox Rabbis or COR is a certification for
kosher foods. Part of every dollar on an item that you purchase
that has the abreviation COR followed by a number goes to the
council of orthodox rabbis, a religious organization. As a
consumer you should be aware that some products that you are
purchasing cost more because of this certification.

The COR certification is now on foods and items that according
to Jewish law do not have to be certified. Salt is one of these
yet you will find COR 69 on Sifto salt and COR 92 on Windsor salt. Ketchup
also
does not need certification yet there is a COR 10 on
Heinz ketchup. You will also find COR certification on such absurd
items as Javex Bleach.Can anyone please inform me that as a result
of rabbinical supervision, Javex Bleach has become purer or more hygienic or
more effectiveI  Or ketchup? Or salt? Is it the amount
of iodine in the salt that the rabbis have to approve or what? I
thought this was done by nutritionists? Do the rabbis visit and
inspect every salt mine and tomato patch?

What the hell gives here? Why am I as a non-denominational Canadian
consumer being forced to pay a religious group for their certification
not only on a product that doesn't need it according to their own laws
but on any product whatsoever? Why is a religious minority scamming
money off of millions of Canadians on essential products such as salt
that doesn't even need kosher certification? Is this not religious
fraud? Certification for products that don't need it?

Write to:
Reuben Mark, Chairman & CEO
Colgate-Palmolive
300 Pak Avenue
New York, NY
USA      10022

and ask for a non kosher javex bleach product as you shouldn't have
to pay for COR certification. Unbelievable that this is being done.

Write to:
Guy L. Leblanc
Vice President, Production & Administration
The Canadian Salt Company, Ltd.
7th Floor
755 Boulevard St. Jean
Pointe Claire, Quebec  H9R 5M9

and ask for non kosher table salt. It should be cheaper. Ask him
specifically, how has Windsor Salt production been modified so as
to comply with Jewish religious laws?  How frequent is rabbinical
inspection of Windsor Salt plants, and of what does this inspection
consist?  Is there anyone who will claim that Windsor Table Salt is
in any detectable way different following kosher certification from
what it was before?

As a matter of fact ask these guys:
Do you have information on how Council of Orthodox Rabbis
kosher-certification earnings are distributed, as for example what
proportion of them goes toward supporting the ethnic cleansing of
Palestinians by the State of Israel, or what proportion goes toward
the expansion of Israel's nuclear arsenal, etc.etc In other words,do
the proceeds go to political as well as religious agendas that have
nothing to do with Canada?

Where is W5  on this matter? Are there any newsreporters that can
explain this? Maybe the Protestants and Catholics will catch on and
start making their own certification organization. I can see it now,
GFJ, good for jesus certification...

Wow, god is such good business...

tyler


On 2 Jan 2002 09:40:35 -0800,
in edm.general
his_shadow@my-deja.com (His Divine Shadow) used both functioning neurons to
say:
>kmcvay@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote in message
news:...
>> ADL Special Edition, January 1991
>> A periodic update from the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith
>> Civil Rights Division

>> "The Kosher Food Tax is the biggest consumer fraud existing in
>> America."

>> The bizarre claim by right wing extremists that kosher certification
>> markings on food labels ("U," "K," etc.) cost consumers extra money
>> and represent, in effect, a "kosher tax" to make rabbis rich, is a
>> striking example of the propaganda used by anti-Semites to trick the
>> uninformed into accepting conspiracy charges and stereotypes about
>> Jews.

>Thanks for the info, Kenneth.

Ken's information is all well and good but it still doesn't address all
of the issues raised in the appended post,  which probably was the
reason why he was moved to comment on the subject in the first place.

All and all, I don't suppose it is any worse than anything perpetuated
by the tradition of 'Royal Warrants' (http://www.royalwarrant.org/)
but I personally find the traditional rant and spin attached to everything
Ken puts out as some neo-nazi neo-conservative conspirarcy to be
getting a bit thin, and tiresome. A simple explaination of fact would
have sufficed.

It's a continual appeal to developing a mindset that says if you aren't
a friend then you are any enemy. It's bullshit. I dare say there are
probably proportionately just as many Jews that are political right
wing extremeists as any other religion, including Baptists.

No one has to be a neo-nazi to object to any spcial concession to a
religious organization thing that increases the cost all consumers must
bear, even if it adds only $0.0005 to the cost of an individual item.

A few years back many people got their undies in a twist when it
was revealed that Rev. Sun Myung Moon was involved in many
well known companies, and boycotted it's products.

AFAIC it doesn't matter if a religion is termed a cult, there is no
reason to attribute arcane motivations to anything that helps people
to appreciate the complexity of the world we live in.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org


Ken McVay invites callers to his homosexuals escorts office:
1-250-616-9431
Or, VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?

http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg


Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to work:(780)492-0473


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the website for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Or, other useful websites include:
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natvan.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay rot in hell.


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, cops and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
is a revolutionary act."
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore."
John Bryant

TOLERANCE is a virtue of a man WITHOUT convictions.
G. K. Chesterton.




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On TV, reporters are complaining about the fact that GEKO never did build the
facility in Edmonton, Canada, which was supposed to cost C$32 Million!!

Man muss wundern, wer hat $32 Millionen Geld, wenn es kein Plant gibt?
Ist $32 MILLIONEN  verschwunden?

On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 13:23:37 -0700, Ariadne  wrote:

>In a half page headline story in the Edmonton Journal today in December, the
>report complains that even after more than 3 years, THERE IS STILL NOT EVEN
>THE START OF CONSTRUCTION OF THE GEKO GARBAGE COMPUTER 
>RECYCLING PLANT IN EDMONTON,CANADA!!

>Because of the non-existence of the GEKO recycling plant, there is now 3235
>tonnes of computers piled at the site. This has caused criticism from the
>Electronic Recycling Corporation of Alberta, who recycle usable computers for
>charities. They see the waste of usable computers in the open air stockpiles,
>in mud and water because GEKO is not functioning, as being against the best
>interests of the public, and charities.

>Dieter Obergfell, of GEKO, explaining from Essen, , now claims that
>construction MIGHT start this August, 3 years later than originally proposed.

>From: Ken Levi 
>Newsgroups:
>de.soc.wirtschaft,de.soc.politik.misc,soc.culture.german,soc.culture.germany
>Subject: Re: GEKO-Who Is Pocketing Extra $28 MILLION?? WER
>PROFITIERT,Bundesfinanzamt?
>Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:28:28 -0700

>When GEKO claims that they will be spending more than 10 TIMES what
>the successful competitor MAXUS paid for their plant, and when MAXUS
>even paid for their land which GEKO will not, one has to ask, WHO IS
>GETTING THE EXTRA 28 MILLIONEN??

>Has Bundesfinanzamt approved the removal of the more than 30 millionen
>from Germany?

>Have the shareholders of GEKO been given all the facts regarding the
>disappearance of this money from their control?
>
>
>On 9 Nov 2004 00:39:27 -0000, Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header
>(DanChristensen) wrote:
>
>>Here in Canada, people have another extremely interesting question, which manager of
>>GEKO Recycling Technologies Dieter Obergfell can not answer!!
>>WHY IS THE EDMONTON CANADA GARBAGE PROJECT FOR GEKO GOING TO COST 30 MILLIONEN,
>>since they do not have to pay for the land of 5 acres?
>
>>In the nearby community of Ryley, the competitor doing the same work,
>>MAXUS TECHNOLOGTY CORPORATION, paid under
>>$3 millionen, which included the cost for their land!!
>
>>WHO IS POCKETING THE EXTRA $27 MILLIONEN? WER PROFITIERT?
>
>
>>An interesting question for Deutsche Bundesfinanzamt - Did GEKO pay the taxes 
>>in Germany, on the 30 million they say they will spend/lose
>>in Edmonton, Canada?
>
>
>>A local paper in Edmonton,Canada is reporting that the firm GEKO, division of DiHAG/GEKO
>>is supposed to be spending $30 million for a computer recycling plant at the 
>>local garbage dump.
>
>>It is not clear why GEKO are building this overpriced facility.
>
>>For more than 3 years, a competitor, MAXUS Technology Corporation, has been in 
>>business in a nearby town.
>>MAXUS have also made contracts with communities throughout western Canada and 
>>also the USA, to have trainloads of computers and similar
>>materials available for processing, leaving next to no product for GEKO!!
>
>>Because GEKO did NOT build when they said they would, 2 years ago, the mayor 
>>was defeated in his bid for re- election this week!!
>
>
>>Subject: Germany Continues Boycott of Deadmonton
>>Date: 1999/07/25
>>Message-ID: <199907251430.QAA17273@mail.replay.com>#1/1
>>Newsgroups: edm.general,ab.general,soc.culture.german
>
>>The media report that no businesses from Germany bothered
>>to attend this year's Klondike Days in Deadmonton, (Edmonton)Canada
>
>>Even though GERMANY was the featured nation.
>
>>Could this perhaps have something to do with the snubbing
>>by Burgermeister ARSCHLOCH Smith, of the international trade
>>delegation from Germany, whom he REFUSED to meet?
>
>>Smith refused to meet with the large delegation of people from Berlin,
>>who had been scheduled by both the provincial government trade office,
>>as well as City Hall.
>
>>The trade delegation after being snubbed by Smith, then went on to
>>Calgary, where they were welcomed. They also did do considerable
>>business, in the pro-business city, unlike the welfare  dump of
>>Deadmonton.
>
>>This INTERNATIONAL INCIDENT was documented in detail in the
>>Edmonton Journal 3 times - 1 December 1995 on page B2,
>>on 12 January 1996 on page B3, and again on 28 March 1996 on page A14.
>
>>The media in Germany carried many articles, denouncing the
>>anti-German actions of Burgermeister ARSCHLOCH.
>
>>It seems that even though slick Willy squanders piles of
>>taxpayer dollars wining and dining and traipsing off to
>>Germany, the businesspeople there still remember him as
>>Burgermeister Arschloch.
>
>>That is why Deadmonton is still blackballed by thinking Germans.
>
>>Now, slick Willy is trying to con some Germans running GEKO to
>>build a recycling plant for computers, WITHOUT TELLING THEM THAT
>>THEY ARE TOO LATE!!
>
>>Another local firm MAXUS TECHNOLOGY INC. has built a multi-million dollar 
>>facility near Edmonton, already operating, to handle millions of tonnes of old computers from all over 
>>Canada and the USA!!
>
>>Are Germans so stupid as to believe a mayor, whose own business as
>>a used tire dealer went under?? Ask Michelin about B & D Tiretown,
>>or even ask Jan Reimer who brought it up in the election campaign...
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When your wife, daughter or girlfriend is sold into sex slavery for the ZYDS,
then perhaps you might have some compassions!!

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:53:59 -0400, Vladimir Makarenko
 wrote:

>According to number of times you posted it here there left no Christian
>girls to sell. And we Christians don't give a damn about girls of other
>confessions. 
>Could you please switch to some alt.business?
>VM.

>Chief Instigator wrote:
>> On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 10:04:35 -0700, Susan Shiksa Cohen
>>  wrote:

>> Russian girls who are beautiful, as well as Polish and Ukrainian
>> girls, are all sold on the open slave markets in ZHID Israel, where
>> white slavery is legal.

>> >On 25 Oct 2004 11:21:36 -0000, DerTavish 
>> >wrote:

>> >>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, convicted of child molesting
>> >>and car theft in California and Oregon, the
>> >>well-known fag in Canada,Fag McVay of Vancouver,
>> >>and still unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of
>> >>the Canadian branch of NAMBLA, finally dying as a diseased
>> >>AIDS-spreader, wants all to know
>> >>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
>> >>Here is the latest.......

>> >>From: Rameses 
>> >>Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian
>> >>Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:40:57 -0700
 
>> >>The June 16 Saturday supplement to the Jerusalem Post reported:

>> >>"Every year hundreds of women, and an unknown number of
>> >>girls under the age of 18, are bought, sold, drugged,
>> >>imprisoned, and forced to work as prostitutes in Israel's
>> >>thriving sex industry.
 
>> >>In countries such as Russia, Ukraine, Latvia, and Hungary,
>> >>traffickers prey on desperate women. Facing poverty, the
>> >>women are lured to Israel with the promise that they will
>> >>make fabulous salaries working as teachers or caregivers.

>> >>In Israel prostitution is not illegal. Nor is there
>> >>legislation against trafficking or slavery".

>> >>With the governments of eastern Europe controlled by the
>> >>evil mafia bosses that profit from this trade, don't
>> >>expect anything to be done about this sickening crime
>> >>against humanity.


>> If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>> then visit  www.freedomsite.org
 
>> Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

>> "At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>> is a revolutionary act."
>> (George Orwell)

>> David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
 
>> "All truth passes through three stages.
>> First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>> and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>> (Arthur Schopenhauer)

>> "The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>> but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>> falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>> they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>> against them -- except force." -- John Bryant

>> "To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>> acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>> and impossible to ignore."
>> --John Bryant


>> Posted by:
>> Steven Horn (KCOM)
>> 1836 NW 11th St
>> Oklahoma City, OK 73106
>> (405) 524-0576

>> together with
 
>> Boris Dynin  = NAMBLA executive &
>> Henry who like
>> late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>> Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>> I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>> We like young children, so that we can train them our way.

>> CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>> Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even
>> VISIT me at:
>> 55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco  94132

>> Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>> office: VISIT at:
>> #5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>> Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>> or call: 1-250-616-9431

>> As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>> called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
>> should give an indication as to the why.

>> "I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>> proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>> yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>> seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>> my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>> moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>> http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>> also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

>> Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
>> a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>> even if he or she were not naked"?
>> http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

>> For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>> background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>> detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>> known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>> It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>> to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

>> Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>> NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>> Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late nights.

>> Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>> Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>> I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
>> send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>> work:(780)492-0473

>> Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>> Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

>> For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>> JEW-WATCH:
>> http://www.jewwatch.com

>> Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>> NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>> people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

>> Or, other useful websites include:
>> ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>> IHR - www.ihr.org
>> OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>> PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>> Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>> AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>> THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>>     Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>>     Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

>> Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>> They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

>> They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>> and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
 
>> As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>> victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>> of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>> May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

>> In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>> for many years around the world.

>> Reply-To: "George" 



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Nochmal fragen - 
Wenn es wirklich kein Plant in Kanada gibt, dann wer hat die 32
MILLIONEN?  Ist GEKO dann kaput?

Kann Bundesfinanzamt erklaeren?


>On Tue, 16 May 2006 17:04:45 GMT, Asterix
> wrote:
>>On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 11:58:34 -0600, Chief Instigator
>> wrote:
>
>>>In a half page headline story in the Edmonton Journal today 15 August 2005,
>>>the report complains that even after more than 3 years, THERE IS STILL NOT
>>>EVEN THE START OF CONSTRUCTION OF THE GEKO GARBAGE 
>>>COMPUTER RECYCLING PLANT IN EDMONTON,CANADA!!
>>
>>>Because of the non-existence of the GEKO recycling plant, there is now 3235
>>>tonnes of computers piled at the site. This has caused criticism from the
>>>Electronic Recycling Corporation of Alberta, who recycle usable computers for
>>>charities. They see the waste of usable computers in the open air stockpiles,
>>>in mud and water because GEKO is not functioning, as being against the best
>>>interests of the public, and charities.
>>
>>>Dieter Obergfell, of GEKO, explaining from Essen, , now claims that
>>>construction MIGHT start this August, 3 years later than originally proposed.
>>
>>Bis jetzt, keine Plant!!
>>Wo ist 32 Millionen?
>>
>>
>>>From: Ken Levi 
>>>Newsgroups:
>>>de.soc.wirtschaft,de.soc.politik.misc,soc.culture.german,soc.culture.germany
>>>Subject: Re: GEKO-Who Is Pocketing Extra $28 MILLION?? WER
>>>PROFITIERT,Bundesfinanzamt?
>>>Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:28:28 -0700
>>
>>>When GEKO claims that they will be spending more than 10 TIMES what
>>>the successful competitor MAXUS paid for their plant, and when MAXUS
>>>even paid for their land which GEKO will not, one has to ask, WHO IS
>>>GETTING THE EXTRA 28 MILLIONEN??
>>
>>>Has Bundesfinanzamt approved the removal of the more than 30 millionen
>>>from Germany?
>>
>>>Have the shareholders of GEKO been given all the facts regarding the
>>>disappearance of this money from their control?
>>
>>>
>>>On 9 Nov 2004 00:39:27 -0000, Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header
>>>(DanChristensen) wrote:
>>>
>>>>Here in Canada, people have another extremely interesting question, which manager of
>>>>GEKO Recycling Technologies Dieter Obergfell can not answer!!
>>>>WHY IS THE EDMONTON CANADA GARBAGE PROJECT FOR GEKO GOING TO COST 30 MILLIONEN,
>>>>since they do not have to pay for the land of 5 acres?
>>>
>>>>In the nearby community of Ryley, the competitor doing the same work,
>>>>MAXUS TECHNOLOGTY CORPORATION, paid under
>>>>$3 millionen, which included the cost for their land!!
>>>
>>>>WHO IS POCKETING THE EXTRA $27 MILLIONEN? WER PROFITIERT?
>>>
>>>
>>>>An interesting question for Deutsche Bundesfinanzamt - Did GEKO pay the taxes 
>>>>in Germany, on the 30 million they say they will spend/lose
>>>>in Edmonton, Canada?
>>>
>>>
>>>>A local paper in Edmonton,Canada is reporting that the firm GEKO, division of DiHAG/GEKO
>>>>is supposed to be spending $30 million for a computer recycling plant at the 
>>>>local garbage dump.
>>>
>>>>It is not clear why GEKO are building this overpriced facility.
>>>
>>>>For more than 3 years, a competitor, MAXUS Technology Corporation, has been in 
>>>>business in a nearby town.
>>>>MAXUS have also made contracts with communities throughout western Canada and 
>>>>also the USA, to have trainloads of computers and similar
>>>>materials available for processing, leaving next to no product for GEKO!!
>>>
>>>>Because GEKO did NOT build when they said they would, 2 years ago, the mayor 
>>>>was defeated in his bid for re- election this week!!
>>>
>>>
>>>>Subject: Germany Continues Boycott of Deadmonton
>>>>Date: 1999/07/25
>>>>Message-ID: <199907251430.QAA17273@mail.replay.com>#1/1
>>>>Newsgroups: edm.general,ab.general,soc.culture.german
>>>
>>>>The media report that no businesses from Germany bothered
>>>>to attend this year's Klondike Days in Deadmonton, (Edmonton)Canada
>>>
>>>>Even though GERMANY was the featured nation.
>>>
>>>>Could this perhaps have something to do with the snubbing
>>>>by Burgermeister ARSCHLOCH Smith, of the international trade
>>>>delegation from Germany, whom he REFUSED to meet?
>>>
>>>>Smith refused to meet with the large delegation of people from Berlin,
>>>>who had been scheduled by both the provincial government trade office,
>>>>as well as City Hall.
>>>
>>>>The trade delegation after being snubbed by Smith, then went on to
>>>>Calgary, where they were welcomed. They also did do considerable
>>>>business, in the pro-business city, unlike the welfare  dump of
>>>>Deadmonton.
>>>
>>>>This INTERNATIONAL INCIDENT was documented in detail in the
>>>>Edmonton Journal 3 times - 1 December 1995 on page B2,
>>>>on 12 January 1996 on page B3, and again on 28 March 1996 on page A14.
>>>
>>>>The media in Germany carried many articles, denouncing the
>>>>anti-German actions of Burgermeister ARSCHLOCH.
>>>
>>>>It seems that even though slick Willy squanders piles of
>>>>taxpayer dollars wining and dining and traipsing off to
>>>>Germany, the businesspeople there still remember him as
>>>>Burgermeister Arschloch.
>>>
>>>>That is why Deadmonton is still blackballed by thinking Germans.
>>>
>>>>Now, slick Willy is trying to con some Germans running GEKO to
>>>>build a recycling plant for computers, WITHOUT TELLING THEM THAT
>>>>THEY ARE TOO LATE!!
>>>
>>>>Another local firm MAXUS TECHNOLOGY INC. has built a multi-million dollar 
>>>>facility near Edmonton, already operating, to handle millions of tonnes of old computers from all over 
>>>>Canada and the USA!!
>>>
>>>>Are Germans so stupid as to believe a mayor, whose own business as
>>>>a used tire dealer went under?? Ask Michelin about B & D Tiretown,
>>>>or even ask Jan Reimer who brought it up in the election campaign...
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Regrettably, all the news reports are correct and TRUE.

Police brutality in Edmonton is so rampant, the Edmonton Journal newspaper, 
as well as the TV stations hardly have a day pass, 
without yet another expose of more police brutality!!

The media need not fabricate the stories, since the Courts carry 
the charges!!

Your comments seem to be along the line of "shoot the messenger 
of bad news!"

By the way, reference to Calgary merely confirms the truth, that Calgary does
not have the same problem with crooked cops!
In other words a great place to visit, unlike the cesspool of Edmonton.


On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 05:01:38 GMT, "Alohacyberian" 
wrote:
>"Alan Pollock"  wrote in message 
>news:e99ivp$mvk$1@reader2.panix.com...
>> In rec.travel.usa-canada Alohacyberian  wrote:
>>
>>> The comments are so strident that I take them with a grain of salt.  If 
>>> they  were toned down serious people might take them more seriously.  KM
>>
>> It's easy to take some factual basis remote or not, fondle, spin and 
>> expand  into impressions designed to make the vulnerable believe a truth that just
>> doesn't exist.
>>
>> An example - albeit a touch more subtle but not by much - is Michael 
>> Moore's  "documentary" in effect a mockumentary called Farenheit 9-11.
>>
>> I must honestly add that I haven't researched Edmonton because quite 
>> frankly I  could care less. However the hate-posts here have had the opposite of 
>> their  intended effect on me.
>>
>> Edmonton's quite possibly a very good place to visit.
>>
>> Anybody who uses techniques like that of the posters is unworthy of my
>> respect, so in my book Edmonton's still a virgin, at the very least.
>>
>> The haters keep putting ketchup on the eggs of their own undoing. Nex
>>
>I have a friend who lives in Ontario and travels to Calgary, Alberta once a 
>year.  I asked him if he ever goes to Edmonton and he said that he'd been 
>there a few times and hadn't heard anything bad about it.  He was unaware of 
>the flap we've read here.  I, too will probably never go to Edmonton, 
>especially as long as Banff and Lake Louise are alternatives.  So yes, your 
>comparison of the shrill conjectures about Edmonton in this forum to Michael 
>Moore's schlockumentaries do seem apropos.  KM



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Those who have failed to learn from the past 2000 years of history, will be
doomed to repeat history.

With now an extra 51 well documented proven cases of ZHID  COLLABORATION
WITH NAZIS, besides notorious KASTNER case,  one MUST question the
HOLOHOAX figures!!

Now even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to be a nazi GESTAPO
COLLABORATOR!!

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:11:30 -0700, Ken Levi  wrote:

>For the past 2000 years, the world has suffered because of the cursed
>Christkiller ZHIDS.

>Not just the Kollaboraci of the ZHIDS with the nazis.


>On 27 Sep 2004 16:03:09 -0000, PhilMathews 
>wrote:

>>Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag in Canada,
>>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>>unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, wants all to know
>>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.

>>Here is a photo of Ken McVay, director of WWW.NIZKOR.ORG--
>>Does he not have the uncouth look as to fit the profile of a
>>person who would say in general regarding child porn:
>>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and
>>have yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn."
>>I've seen photos of naked children, ... and fail to see the
>>harm, or any great moral danger to our society)."?
>>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>>     Would any of you want to leave this person, Ken McVay,
>>                alone with your children?


>>From: Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header (JohannSebastianBott)
>>Subject: Re:ZHID ORDNUNGSPOLIZEI = ZYDOWSKY KOLABORANCI!!!
>>Newsgroups: pl.regionalne.krakow,pl.regionalne.wroclaw
>>On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:33:28 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>Another significant article that merits discussion!!!

>On Fri, 19 Sep 1997 13:15:13 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI
> wrote:

> > Just a moment ago, on soc.culture.polish,
> > Dr. J. Ilicki, Associate Professor of Sociology
> > and Judaic Studies on Upsalla University raised
> > the question of Polish Polish in the service of
> > Germans during occupation of Poland.  The only
> > reason for this question at this time seems to be
> > his need to stir interethnic hatered.  Provocatively,
> > Dr. Ilicki asks:
> > 1) who were the members of the
> > police, volunteers or draftees?,
> > 2) what was their social status?
> > 3) what happened to them after the war?
> > Just to play completely innocent (and dumb) he also asks
> > why they were called Granatowa (dark-navy-blue) Police.

> > Only naive will believe that Prof. Ilicki does not
> > know the answers.
> > Also only naive will believe that he is not interested
> > in Pinsk the hometown of his parents and allegedly
> > the site of the burial of his grandparents and over
> > 30,000 pinksers (Jews from Pinsk).  He admitte
> > that his mother listed them as killed there with
> > Yad Vashem.  However, young (about 40 years old)
> > Julian pretends disintrest, because he is afraid that
> > exhumations might start at the alleged burial site
> > and will find no skeletons as same happened last
> > year at nearby Mariompole, presently in Lithuania.

> > But coming back to Dr Illicki question: Polish Police
> > during German occupation was  dramatically reduced
> > in numbers and pre-war policemen were forced to
> > serve as an auxillary force to German Ordnung Polizei.
> > They were ususally not armed,and when armed never
> > given more than five bullets for their long rifles.
> > Moreover, after each use of firearm they
> > (as well as the Ukraininan Police) had to write
> > a report for what target each bullet was used
> > and with what effectivness, hardly an invitation to
> > the genocide.

>>>>>> Hardly truth to Pawlikowski's story too.

> > On the other hand there was a police force in
> > the Third Reich, in which service was completely
> > voluntary.  It was called Ordnungdienst.  Their
> > emblem was a light alloy Star of David.  The
> > social background of these Jewish collaborators
> > according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18%
> > with post-graduate degrees,  60% with college degree,
> > 20% with elementary education.  These are data
> > from self-serving, post-war questionaries.

> > But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the
> > requirement was that EACH Jewish policeman
> > has at least matura (two years of college)
> > see page 489 of his book.  In practice, the
> > Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
> > journalist who with the day of German
> > occupation immediately were fired from
> > their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because
> > the schools were closed.

> The service was voluntary. Take the job and keep
> your life a little longer or die now!

> Pawlikowski forgot how the Soviets were conscripted.
> Under Stalin they ran to enlist hoping to avoid being
> killed in the next "relocation"!

> > While Polish teachers joined the underground,
> > unemployed Jewish intelligentia clamored for the police work.

> > Some of it was really gruesome as you remember
> > from our previous description of the Feb. 1942
> > execution on Rybna Street market place in Lodz.
> > German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown
> > endlessly in Wiesenthal Museum in LA.  Thousands
> > of Jews standing and watching behind three
> > uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered
> > pistols facing Jewish crowd and about to be hanged
> > women passing out and forced into
> > the noose by Jewish Policemen.
> > -------------
> > Jozef Pawlikowski

> Herman

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And do not forget the murders by the ZHIDS at HOLODOMOR!

The filthy ZHIDS can no longer lie about KATYN and try to blame the
Germans.

Even the Soviets had to admit the truth, and also about Vinnitsa.

No wonder around the world more and more people are starting to really
dislike the filthy ZHIDS!!

>>Latest update follows:
>>From: "Strider" 
>>Newsgroups: 
>>soc.culture.
>>jewish,soc.c
>>ulture.israel,soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.australian,soc.culture.yugoslavia
>>Subject: Jewish Copmmissars murdered these Poles

>>Our shame still lies in the Katyn forest
>>By Kevin Myers
>>(Filed: 27/04/2003)

>>Today Poles all over the world will commemorate the 60th anniversary of
>>the discovery of the war crime which didn't occur. And the non-existence
>>of this atrocity constituted democracy's most sordid exercise in realpolitik
>>of the entire 20th century. The Soviet Union captured 180,000 Polish soldiers
>>during its invasion of Poland in 1939. Most were herded off to slave-camps
>>in Siberia, but 22,000 officers were not. In April 1940, on Stalin's orders,
>>each was bound with barbed wire and executed with a single shot to the
>>head.

>>This was a colossal undertaking: the death toll was greater than that on the
>>most calamitous day in British military history - the Somme, July 1,1916.
>>More importantly, the massacres occurred before the German invasions of
>>France and the Low Countries. And although hundreds of Jews in Poland
>>had been murdered, these were improvised butcheries, essentially unrelated
>>to The Final Solution, which had not yet begun.

>>So the first systematic mass murder of defenceless innocents in the Second
>>World War was not by the Nazis, but by the Soviet Union, just over a year
>>before the USSR became Britain's official best friend. This shouldn't
>>surprise us: after all, it had been the Soviets, and not the Nazis,who
>>invented industrialised murder. From the revolution on, they freely
>>used the word "exterminate" of their enemies. Hitler listened; and Hitler
>>learned, as dictators do. Moreover, the careful murder of so many officers from a
>>single narrow stratum of Polish society was truly proto-genocide: its intent
>>was to eliminate Polish identity by the extermination of all its perceived
>>guardians.

>>In 1943, via two sources - through a population census within the exiled
>>Polish community living in the USSR, and from the Germans, who had
>>discovered the site of one of the massacres, in the woods of Katyn,
>>outside Smolensk - the British discovered the fate of the Polish officers. A
>>devastating report from the British ambassador to the Polish
>>government-in-exile, Owen O'Malley, left no doubt about the matter.

>>The British Government's public response was to dismiss the Nazi
>>discoveries as propaganda and tell the Polish government-in-exile to forget Katyn
>>and to proceed with beating the real enemy, Germany.

>>War is war, and in peace it is impossible to replicate the fevers and the
>>terrors it induces. So no useful moral judgment can be made about
>>those who decided in 1943 publicly to accept lies as fact, and to conceal the
>>truth as regrettable but necessary strategy. But it was statecraft at its most
>>pusillanimous to allow those lies to become a cornerstone of the
>>relationship between the Western allies and the Soviet Union.

>>That is what happened when the three leaders - Churchill, Roosevelt and
>>Stalin - met at Teheran in November 1943. Far from berating the Soviet
>>Leader for the massacres, the two democratic leaders propitiated him,
>>awarding him the Polish land he had stolen even as he seized his future
>>murder victims. And when Stalin jested that they should settle the
>>German problem once and for all by killing 50,000 German officers, Churchill
>>merely protested sulkily, and Roosevelt light-heartedly suggested killing
>>only 49,000.
>
>>But nobody mentioned Katyn. How was this possible? For the massacre of
>>the Poles was surely the secret subtext to this grisly exchange, and one by
>>which Stalin was taking the measure of his two confreres. All three
>>knew of the murders, and the bodyguard of lies around them: and silently, all
>>three - two of them abjectly, the third triumphantly - assented to those lies.

>>Teheran was the true nadir of international diplomacy, morally far more
>>ignoble and strategically far more catastrophic than either Munich five
>>years before or Yalta a year later. And the key to Teheran was Katyn:
>>once Stalin had got away with that, he realised he could get away with
>>almost anything.

>>Moreover, the fiction of Katyn took root within the Foreign Office. There,
>>nourished on complicit cowardice and malformed in the darkness of
>>pathological guilt, the temporary tactic of 1943 was in time to turn into
>>the diseased plant of enduring policy. It even caused the Callaghan
>>Government in the 1970s vehemently to oppose the erection of a
>>memorial in London to the victims of Katyn.

>>Denial, in its purest psychiatric sense, of Katyn also infused much
>>consideration of the 20th century: how else could Roy Jenkins have
>>written a life of Churchill without once referring to Katyn, the Great Lie of
>>which the prime minister was prime mover? How else could so many historians

>>Norman Davies aside - simply ignore the extraordinary Western
>>collusion in covering up communist atrocities, and the profound impact this must
>>have had on Kremlin thinking?

>>On Thursday the FCO publishes a report, British reactions to the Katyn
>>Massacre, in a belated attempt at expiation for Britain's repeated
>>cover-ups of this terrible affair. But it cannot undo the evil of the
>>extermination of the Polish officer corps which, far from being the subject of a
>>war-crimes trial, was embraced and rewarded at Teheran; and from that city, the
>>communism of Katyn was soon to march forth and conquer half the world.

>>My thanks to you for reposting this article.
>>A brilliant truthful piece.
>>Ed Kadach

>>mahdi@alahram.com wrote:
>>On Sun, 19 Jul 1998 22:06:50 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>>>On 1 May 1998 13:08:00 +0200, Irmin@nsm.htp.org wrote:

>>>>American Dissident Voices Broadcast of April 25, 1998

>>>>Katyn
>>>>by Dr. William Pierce

>>>>A background noise that seems never to go away is the constant
>>>>whining and yammering of the Jews about how the world owes them a
>>>>living because of their losses during the so-called "Holocaust."
>>>>They do it, of course, because they make such a big profit on it.
>>>>The latest flare-up of this Jewish play for a handout came more
>>>>than a year ago when they began demanding that the Swiss pay them
>>>>$7 billion, which "Holocaust" victims allegedly had stashed in
>>>>numbered Swiss accounts before being hauled off to gas chambers
>>>>during the Second World War.

>>>>With a few "bought" Gentile politicians fronting for them, the
>>>>foremost among these being New York's Senator Alphonse D'Amato,
>>>>the Jews threatened Switzerland with a boycott by the U.S.
>>>>government if their demands were not met. Instead of laughing in
>>>>their faces, telling the Jews to go to hell, and gearing up for
>>>>countermeasures against Israel and other Jewish interests if the
>>>>Jews tried to proceed with a boycott, the Swiss politicians tried
>>>>to placate the Jews by offering to buy themoff. The Jews took the
>>>>Swiss response as a sign of weakness and escalated their demands.

>>>>The average Swiss citizen seems to have a little more pride than
>>>>Switzerland's elected officials, however, and resentment against
>>>>the Jews' extortion efforts is building in Switzerland now to the
>>>>point that some of that country's richest Jews are wearing
>>>>bulletproof vests whenever they must go out in public.

>>>>In general, however, this "Holocaust"-based extortion racket
>>>>works quite well for the Jews, and they have expanded their
>>>>demands for World War Two reparations to include a number of
>>>>other countries besides Switzerland. They are even whining that
>>>>the Vatican owes them because Pope Pius XII didn't do enough to
>>>>save them from the Germans during the war. The Jews' brazenness
>>>>in this whole business is quite breathtaking.

>>>>Their brazenness, of course, is justified, because by and large
>>>>they have been getting away with it. And they have been getting
>>>>away with it because with their media control they have been able
>>>>to distort the general public's whole perception of what happened
>>>>during the Second World War. They have been able to portray
>>>>themselves as innocent victims and just about everyone else as
>>>>persecutors and aggressors, even the people who were fighting on
>>>>the Jewish side against the Germans during the war. For example,
>>>>they have done quite a bit of whining that after the Red Army
>>>>drove the Germans from Poland, the Poles took the opportunity to
>>>>lynch hundreds of Jews in 1945 and 1946: Jews whom the Germans
>>>>somehow had failed to get rid of during their wartime occupation
>>>>of Poland.

>>>>Now, why would the Poles do something like that? Why would they
>>>>lynch the poor Jews, who had been on their side during the war?
>>>>If you learned about the war from watching Steven Spielberg
>>>>propaganda films and other mass-media sources, you probably
>>>>believe that it was because of religious anti-Semitism on the
>>>>part of the Catholic Poles. Let me tell you the real reason why
>>>>so many Poles hated Jews after the war. It's something the
>>>>Jew-controlled media in America have tried hard to keep covered
>>>>up. Let me tell you about what happened in the Katyn forest
>>>>in 1940.

>>>>In September 1939 Poland was invaded from the west by Germany and
>>>>from the east by the Soviet Union. The Germans wanted back the
>>>>territory in western Poland, including the city of Danzig, which
>>>>had been taken from them at the end of the First World War. The
>>>>Soviets wanted eastern Poland. The Germans and the Soviets
>>>>divided Poland between them, with the boundary running roughly
>>>>along the River Bug.

>>>>Britain and France, both under strong Jewish pressure, declared
>>>>war on Germany in September 1939, ostensibly because of Germany's
>>>>invasion of Poland. They did not declare war on the Soviet Union,
>>>>which also had invaded Poland. In the United States and in
>>>>western Europe, where the Jews held a deathgrip on the mass
>>>>media, a great deal of anti-German propaganda was based on the
>>>>German grab for Polish territory -- much of which, of course,
>>>>actually was historically German territory -- and nothing was
>>>>said of the Soviet occupation and annexation of eastern Poland.

>>>>The reason for this anti-German and pro-Soviet bias by the Jewish
>>>>media was that the Jews were riding high in the Soviet Union as
>>>>commissars and communist party bosses under Stalin, while in
>>>>Germany Hitler had undertaken a program since 1933 of freeing
>>>>Germany from all Jewish influence. Jews had been weeded out of
>>>>the media, the law, the schools, and other areas of economic and
>>>>cultural life in Germany. Before Hitler became chancellor in 1933
>>>>the Jews had done in Germany what they do in every country where
>>>>they gain a foothold: they had monopolized large sections of the
>>>>mass media and certain professions and were doing their best to
>>>>distort German culture, German society, and the German economy
>>>>to suit themselves. Hitler put a stop to that, and two-thirds of
>>>>the 1933 Jewish population of Germany had emigrated by the
>>>>invasion of Poland in September 1939. So the Jews hated Germany
>>>>and were determined to do whatever they could to destroy her.

>>>>For his part, Hitler hoped to avoid war with Britain and France.
>>>>He hoped that after his quick victory in western Poland he could
>>>>make peace with Britain and France. He was determined, however,
>>>>to stamp out communism wherever he encountered it. Not only did
>>>>he hate communism on ideological grounds, but he had sworn to
>>>>fight communism when the communists in Germany betrayed his
>>>>country at the end of the First World War. Hitler also saw the
>>>>Soviet Union as a threat to all of Europe, and he was determined
>>>>to break the power of that country when he could, even though
>>>>there was an uneasy non-aggression pact between Germany and the
>>>>Soviet Union in 1939, at the time of their partition of Poland.

>>>>In the spring of 1941 massive troop movements and other
>>>>developments inside the Soviet Union convinced Hitler that Stalin
>>>>was preparing to invade the west with the Red Army, and so in
>>>>June 1941 Hitler made a preemptive strike. German forces smashed
 >>>>through the Red Army and made rapid advances, first through
>>>>Soviet-occupied eastern Poland and then through Ukraine and into
>>>>Russia.

>>>>A year and a half later, in February 1943, German forces near
>>>>Smolensk, in western Russia, investigated reports they heard from
>>>>Russian civilians to the effect that a large number of prisoners
>>>>had been murdered by the Soviet secret police in the area nearly
>>>>three years earlier. The German investigators were led by local
>>>>Russians to a series of mounds in a wooded area known locally as
>>>>Katyn Forest, about 10 miles west of Smolensk. The forest is
>>>>named for a village, Katyn, which it surrounds. The forest had
>>>>been privately owned prior to the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917,
>>>>but after the communist takeover of Russia the area had been
>>>>confiscated by the government and part of the forest had been
>>>>turned over to the NKVD, the Soviet equivalent of the American
>>>>FBI.

>>>>The Germans began digging in the mounds in the Katyn forest and
>>>>made a horrible discovery. They found corpse after corpse, each
>>>>with its hands bound behind its back and a bullet hole in the
 >>>>base of its skull. They continued their excavations for more than
>>>>a month, and eventually uncovered more than 4,000 corpses. Other
>>>>bodies may have remained buried in other mounds, but the Germans
>>>>had no time to dig up the whole forest. Instead they called in
>>>>the International Red Cross and representatives of various
>>>>neutral countries to examine their findings. They also brought in
>>>>groups of Allied prisoners of war, including Americans, from
>>>>prison camps in Germany to view the graves in the Katyn forest.
>>>>They gave these international inspectors complete freedom to
>>>>examine the exhumed bodies, permitted doctors among them to
>>>>conduct autopsies, even allowed them to dig up other bodies from
>>>>one of the mounds which had not been completely excavated. The
>>>>Germans asked only that the inspectors report back truthfully to
>>>>their own governments about their observations. And in fact, most
>>>>of them did.

>>>>What they reported was that the bodies were those of Polish
>>>>military officers, along with a number of civilian cultural and
>>>>business leaders and intellectuals -- scientists, writers, poets
>>>>-- who had been in the portion of Poland occupied by the Soviet
>>>>Union in September 1939. Altogether the Soviet secret police had
>>>>rounded up some 15,000 Polish leaders in 1939 -- including nearly
>>>>half of the entire Polish officer's corps, the half that had had
>>>>the misfortune of being in eastern Poland at the time -- and put
>>>>them in three concentration camps in Russia: at Starobelsk,
>>>>Kozelsk, and Ostashkov. All of the bodies unearthed in the
>>>>Katyn forest were of Polish leaders who had been confined at one
>>>>of these camps: Starobelsk.

>>>>Rounding up a country's leaders and killing them was standard
>>>>practice for the communists. The theory was that the leaders were
>>>>bourgeois oppressors of the working class and deserved to die. As
>>>>egalitarians the communists did not regard the Polish officers
>>>>and intellectuals as inherently better or more valuable human
>>>>material than the average Polish criminal or welfare bum; the
>>>>officers had simply used their class advantage to gain a better
>>>>life-style for themselves. Of course, no one really believed that
>>>>theory except the criminals and welfare bums and other resentful
>>>>losers and ne'er-do-wells who made up the natural communist
>>>>constituency. As a practical matter, however, killing all the
>>>>leaders and potential leaders of a conquered people made them
>>>>easier to govern. That's what the Marxists had done in Russia,
>>>>Ukraine, and the Baltic countries.

>>>>In the case of the Poles there was a bit of a diplomatic problem,
>>>>though. The Poles supported the war Britain and France had
>>>>declared against Germany, purportedly on their behalf, because
>>>>they viewed that as their one hope for getting back at least the
>>>>western part of their country. They were not happy about the
>>>>Russians taking the eastern part of Poland, but the Russians at
>>>>least were fellow Slavs. The thing to do was get rid of the
>>>>Germans first and then worry about the Russians. This Polish
>>>>strategy suited Stalin fine. But it made it desirable for him to
>>>>avoid alienating the Poles any more than necessary. When Polish
>>>>exiles asked about their imprisoned leaders in late 1939 and
>>>>early 1940, the Soviet government promised that they would be
>>>>released shortly. Meanwhile, the decision had been made to kill
>>>>all of them. And so in April 1940 the Polish leaders were taken
>>>>from the three camps where they had been imprisoned, trucked off
>>>>to various liquidation sites, and murdered. The ones who had been
>>>>imprisoned at Starobelsk all went to the NKVD area of the Katyn
>>>>forest. After the war some of the NKVD executioners were
>>>>interviewed in Israel and described how they had carried out the
>>>>killings.

>>>>The Poles were driven up to the burial pits in long NKVD prison
>>>>trucks known as "black ravens." They were pulled from the trucks
>>>>one at a time by NKVD guards. Each Polish prisoner had his hands
>>>>bound behind his back and then was dragged to the edge of a pit.
>>>>There he was held by two NKVD men while a third fired a pistol
>>>>bullet into the back of his head. Some of the officers had had
>>>>their coats pulled over their heads to keep them from seeing what
>>>>was happening before they were shot. Some struggled and were
>>>>bayonetted by NKVD guards before being shot and thrown into the
>>>>pit. When all of the officers from Starobelsk had been killed,
>>>>some 4,400 of them, the Katyn forest burial pits were covered
>>>>with dirt and pine trees were planted on them. The locations of
>>>>the mass graves of the prisoners from the camps at Kozelsk and
>>>>Ostashkov remain unknown, but none of the 15,000 Polish officers
>>>>and intellectuals rounded up by the NKVD in September 1939 was
>>>>seen alive after April 1940.

>>>>The Red Cross representatives and the Allied prisoners the
>>>>Germans brought in to examine the mass graves in the Katyn forest
>>>>understood after their examination not only who had been killed;
>>>>they also understood who had killed them. This was apparent not
>>>>only from the medical estimates of the length of time the bodies
>>>>had been buried, but also from documentary evidence on the
>>>>bodies. Diaries, news clippings, letters, and other personal
>>>>papers removed from the clothing of the victims all told the same
>>>>story: the latest dates on any of these papers were from
>>>>mid-April 1940. The Polish leaders had been killed in April 1940,
>>>>when they were prisoners of the Soviet Union and when the Katyn
>>>>region was under Soviet control. And this is what they reported
>>>>back to their governments.

>>>>So what do you think happened? Were the British and American
>>>>governments horrified to discover that their "gallant Soviet
>>>>ally," as the Soviet Union was referred to by the mass media, was
>>>>a mass murderer? Did the British government, which had gone to
>>>>war against Germany under the pretext of defending Poland, decide
>>>>that it had made a mistake? Did anyone condemn the Soviet Union
>>>>for this act of genocide against the Poles?

>>>>Of course not! The Allied governments ordered their people who
>>>>had inspected the Katyn site to keep their mouths shut, and the
>>>>Jewish media immediately began announcing that the Germans had
>>>>done it. A mass murder of Polish officers and intellectuals by
>>>>the Nazis had been discovered in the Katyn forest, the New York
>>>>Times and the rest of the Jewish media shrieked. Poor Poles!
>>>>Wicked Germans! The war must go on to free the poor Poles and
>>>>punish the wicked Germans. And the war did go on, killing
>>>>millions of more Germans, British, Americans, and other
>>>>Europeans. And the Germans were indeed punished. The Poles, of
>>>>course, were not freed. Instead they were turned over to the
>>>>Reds, who had butchered their leaders in the Katyn forest.

>>>>The war went on after the German discovery of the mass graves in
>>>>the Katyn forest, because its purpose from the beginning was not
>>>>to free Poland but to destroy Germany, which had dared to free
>>>>itself from the Jews. Roosevelt understood this. Churchill
>>>>understood this. But the American and British people didn't
>>>>understand it, of course, because they were lied to by the Jewish
>>>>media and by their own governments, who in 1943 as in 1998 have
>>>>done whatever has been politically expedient. And what has been
>>>>politically expedient has been what the Jewish media bosses have
>>>>decided.

>>>>The lies about Katyn were maintained by the media for some years
>>>>after the end of the war, because these lies meshed nicely with
>>>>the "Holocaust" story which was making so much money for the
>>>>Jews. Nowadays, of course, the truth about the Katyn murders is
>>>>generally accepted by historians everywhere. You can go into
>>>>almost any large library and read about it and even see the
>>>>gruesome photographs that the Germans took of the Polish bodies
>>>>they dug up. One of several authoritative books on the subject is
>>>>J.K. Zawodny's Death in the Forest: the Story of the Katyn
>>>>Forest Massacre, published in 1962 by the University of Notre
>>>>Dame Press. None of this is publicized a la Steven Spielberg, of
>>>>course, for the illumination of American television audiences. It
>>>>still might undermine the Jews' "Holocaust" racket.

>>>>In 1945 and 1946, although the deceived citizens of the western
>>>>world didn't know the truth about Katyn, Polish patriots did. The
>>>>word had gotten back to the Polish prisoners in German camps from
>>>>the Poles the Germans had taken to examine the graves. After the
>>>>war, when these Polish prisoners were freed, the word spread to
>>>>other Poles. They knew that it was the communists, not the Nazis,
>>>>who had murdered their leaders, who had beheaded their nation.
>>>>And they knew who was behind communism, from the Jew Karl Marx,
>>>>who had started the whole business, up to the Jewish commissars
>>>>who lorded it over them in Soviet-occupied Poland. They knew who
>>>>had welcomed their Soviet conquerors and then collaborated with
>>>>those conquerors. And so it is hardly surprising that in 1945 and
>>>>1946 a few Polish patriots organized lynchings of Jews in Poland,
>>>>before the Reds had a chance to clamp down on all of Poland and
>>>>suppress any further expressions of anti-communist or anti-Jewish
>>>>feeling.

>>>>No, the Polish dislike of Jews isn't surprising. What is
>>>>surprising is that so few patriots in America and Britain have
>>>>expressed their outrage against the Jews, not only for what they
>>>>did to the Poles during and after the war, but for what they have
>>>>done to us: lying to us and using us to wage their wars for them.
>>>>If patriots study the Katyn story and take its lesson to heart,
>>>>they will understand why they cannot trust either the mass media
>>>>or any government which dances to the tune played by the media.
>>>>Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill were as much liars and
>>>>traitors as Bill Clinton and Tony Blair.

>>>>Anyway, you might remember Katyn the next time you hear the Jews
>>>>or some of their bought politicians whining about how much gold
>>>>was stolen from them by the Swiss or how badly the Poles and the
>>>>Germans treated them during the Second World War.

>>>>The text above is based on a broadcast of the American Dissident
>>>>Voices radio program sponsored by National Vanguard Books. To
>>>>receive weekly ADV transcripts, mail: ADVlist@ListServe.com
>>>>Write "subscribe" as the subject of your message.
>>>>++++++++++++++

>>>>American Renaissance
>>>>http://www.amren.com

>>>>Campaign for Radical Truth in History
>>>>http://www.hoffman-info.com

>>>>National Alliance
>>>>http://www.natvan.com

>>>>Stormfront
>>>>http://www.stormfront.org

>>>>Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library
>>>>http://www.ddc.net/ygg


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
work:(780)492-0473

And also: George Firestone: "George" 

Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
for many years around the world.




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Those who have failed to learn from the past 2000 years of history, will be
doomed to repeat history.

With now an extra 51 well documented proven cases of ZHID  COLLABORATION
WITH NAZIS, besides notorious KASTNER case,  one MUST question the
HOLOHOAX figures!!

Now even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to be a nazi GESTAPO
COLLABORATOR!!

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:11:30 -0700, Ken Levi  wrote:

>For the past 2000 years, the world has suffered because of the cursed
>Christkiller ZHIDS.

>Not just the Kollaboraci of the ZHIDS with the nazis.


>On 27 Sep 2004 16:03:09 -0000, PhilMathews 
>wrote:

>>Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag in Canada,
>>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>>unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, wants all to know
>>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.

>>Here is a photo of Ken McVay, director of WWW.NIZKOR.ORG--
>>Does he not have the uncouth look as to fit the profile of a
>>person who would say in general regarding child porn:
>>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and
>>have yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn."
>>I've seen photos of naked children, ... and fail to see the
>>harm, or any great moral danger to our society)."?
>>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>>     Would any of you want to leave this person, Ken McVay,
>>                alone with your children?


>>From: Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header (JohannSebastianBott)
>>Subject: Re:ZHID ORDNUNGSPOLIZEI = ZYDOWSKY KOLABORANCI!!!
>>Newsgroups: pl.regionalne.krakow,pl.regionalne.wroclaw
>>On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:33:28 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>Another significant article that merits discussion!!!

>On Fri, 19 Sep 1997 13:15:13 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI
> wrote:

> > Just a moment ago, on soc.culture.polish,
> > Dr. J. Ilicki, Associate Professor of Sociology
> > and Judaic Studies on Upsalla University raised
> > the question of Polish Polish in the service of
> > Germans during occupation of Poland.  The only
> > reason for this question at this time seems to be
> > his need to stir interethnic hatered.  Provocatively,
> > Dr. Ilicki asks:
> > 1) who were the members of the
> > police, volunteers or draftees?,
> > 2) what was their social status?
> > 3) what happened to them after the war?
> > Just to play completely innocent (and dumb) he also asks
> > why they were called Granatowa (dark-navy-blue) Police.

> > Only naive will believe that Prof. Ilicki does not
> > know the answers.
> > Also only naive will believe that he is not interested
> > in Pinsk the hometown of his parents and allegedly
> > the site of the burial of his grandparents and over
> > 30,000 pinksers (Jews from Pinsk).  He admitte
> > that his mother listed them as killed there with
> > Yad Vashem.  However, young (about 40 years old)
> > Julian pretends disintrest, because he is afraid that
> > exhumations might start at the alleged burial site
> > and will find no skeletons as same happened last
> > year at nearby Mariompole, presently in Lithuania.

> > But coming back to Dr Illicki question: Polish Police
> > during German occupation was  dramatically reduced
> > in numbers and pre-war policemen were forced to
> > serve as an auxillary force to German Ordnung Polizei.
> > They were ususally not armed,and when armed never
> > given more than five bullets for their long rifles.
> > Moreover, after each use of firearm they
> > (as well as the Ukraininan Police) had to write
> > a report for what target each bullet was used
> > and with what effectivness, hardly an invitation to
> > the genocide.

>>>>>> Hardly truth to Pawlikowski's story too.

> > On the other hand there was a police force in
> > the Third Reich, in which service was completely
> > voluntary.  It was called Ordnungdienst.  Their
> > emblem was a light alloy Star of David.  The
> > social background of these Jewish collaborators
> > according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18%
> > with post-graduate degrees,  60% with college degree,
> > 20% with elementary education.  These are data
> > from self-serving, post-war questionaries.

> > But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the
> > requirement was that EACH Jewish policeman
> > has at least matura (two years of college)
> > see page 489 of his book.  In practice, the
> > Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
> > journalist who with the day of German
> > occupation immediately were fired from
> > their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because
> > the schools were closed.

> The service was voluntary. Take the job and keep
> your life a little longer or die now!

> Pawlikowski forgot how the Soviets were conscripted.
> Under Stalin they ran to enlist hoping to avoid being
> killed in the next "relocation"!

> > While Polish teachers joined the underground,
> > unemployed Jewish intelligentia clamored for the police work.

> > Some of it was really gruesome as you remember
> > from our previous description of the Feb. 1942
> > execution on Rybna Street market place in Lodz.
> > German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown
> > endlessly in Wiesenthal Museum in LA.  Thousands
> > of Jews standing and watching behind three
> > uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered
> > pistols facing Jewish crowd and about to be hanged
> > women passing out and forced into
> > the noose by Jewish Policemen.
> > -------------
> > Jozef Pawlikowski

> Herman

First,let us kill all the lawyers! - W.Shakespeare
First, we get rid of all the politicians! - Mao Tse Dung
Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled-as fertiliser!! Me

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
is a revolutionary act."
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.


Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late
nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
work:(780)492-0473


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
for many years around the world.


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Poland and Latvia are to be commended, for their stand for traditional family
values.

They deserve praise for resisting the demands of the perverts and sub-humans,
trying to destroy traditional families.

Other countries believing in traditional Christianity, true judaism, or even
Islam, should all do as honest Poland and Latvia do - restrict the rights of
the disgusting perverts and AIDS-spreaders!!


On 19 Nov 2006 13:56:22 -0800, "Sound of Trumpet" 
wrote:

>http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1739775/posts

>Poland & Latvia must address LGBT issues

>GayNZ ^ | November 16, 2006

>Posted on 11/16/2006 10:41:46 AM PST by lizol

>Poland & Latvia must address LGBT issues

>Amnesty International is getting tough with new European Union
>countries over gay rights issues.

>"If the European Union wants 2007 to be "European Year of Equal
>Opportunities", it needs to ensure as of now that lesbian, gay,
>bisexual and transgender (LGBT) people can freely express, assemble and
>associate in countries such as Poland and Latvia", says Amnesty
>International.

>Amnesty International is concerned that despite public attention to a
>string of homophobic incidents - in some cases actions and statements
>by the very authorities of these countries - little has been done to
>redress the situation and guarantee the basic rights of LGBT persons.
>
>In Poland, the person who replaced the director for the national
>teaching agency - dismissed for accepting a standard Council of
>Europe manual on anti-discrimination - has recently declared that
>homosexuality is contrary to human nature. These examples contradict
>the assurances presented by the Polish President during his visit to
>Brussels in August.
>
>In Latvia, authorities have also failed to provide credible guarantees
>that homophobic incidents will not be tolerated. This summer's
>refusal to grant permission for the Riga Pride 2006 march on account
>that police could not assure the security of the participants is a
>worrying signal that authorities are not living up to their
>obligations.
>
>Also worrying was the two-hour delay of significant police presence at
>the hotel where participants of a conference on LGBT rights were being
>attacked by protesters.
>
>Amnesty International has asked the EU to support the right of freedom
>of assembly, including "Pride Marches" and similar events in all Member
>States; take concrete steps to monitor the implementation of EU
>standards against discrimination in Member States; and ensure that
>police cooperation in Europe includes training of law enforcement
>officials on how to address homophobic violence.



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On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 22:16:48 +0200, in de.soc.politik.misc Sonia Cabrera
 wrote:

Weiss jemand genaueres über die Vorwürfe, das Wiesenthal mit der Gestapo
kollaborierte? In der Tagesschau wurde gemeldet, das Wiesenthal die
Kollaboration unterstellt wurde, da es unerklärlich scheint, das er 12
verschiedene KZs überlebte.
Dazu folgendes im Netz:

Eichmann reiste zusammen mit Hagen. Ihr Unternehmen war in der Ge- schichte
der Kooperation zwischen Zionisten und Nazis gewiß nur eine Episode. Aber
die Tatsache, daß der berüchtigte Judenmörder Eichmann damals bei den
Zionisten sich größter Wertschätzung er- freute, war so entlarvend, daß man
sie tunlichst zu verbergen trachtete. Da die Tatsache der Reise früher oder
später ans Licht kommen mochte, wählte man das einfachste Verfahren: Man
gab den Schwarzen Peter weiter. Bereits 1947 findet sich in einer Broschüre
von Simon Wiesenthal die Mitteilung, Eichmanns Reise habe dem Ziel gedient,
Kontakt zu den aufständischen Palästinensern aufzunehmen und mit dem Mufti
zu konspirieren.[28] Diese Lüge hat seither immer neue Varianten erlebt und
ist sogar im Eichmann-Prozess in Jerusalem wiederholt worden.

http://www.aldeilis.net/zion/zionhol12.html


On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 23:30:16 -0700, in soc.culture.palestine
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Simon Wiesenthal: Fraudulent 'Nazi Hunter'
By Mark Weber

For more than 40 years, Simon Wiesenthal has been tracking hundreds of
"Nazi criminals" from his "Jewish Documentation Center" in Vienna. For
his work as the world's most prominent "Nazi hunter," he has been
awarded several honorary degrees and numerous medals, including
Germany's highest decoration. In a formal White House ceremony in
August 1980, a teary-eyed President Carter presented him with a
special gold medal awarded by the US Congress. President Reagan
praised him in November 1988 as one of the "true heroes" of this
century.

This living legend was portrayed in flattering terms by the late
Laurence Oliver in the 1978 film fantasy "The Boys From Brazil," and
by Ben Kingsley in the 1989 HBO made-for-television movie "Murderers
Among Us: The Simon Wiesenthal Story." One of world's most prominent
Holocaust organizations bears his name: the Simon Wiesenthal Center of
Los Angeles.

Wiesenthal's reputation as a moral authority is undeserved. The man
whom The Washington Post has called the "Holocaust's Avenging Angel"
[1] has a little known but well-documented record of reckless
disregard for truth. He has lied about his own wartime experiences,
misrepresented his postwar "Nazi-hunting" achievements, and has spread
vile falsehoods about alleged German atrocities.

Different Stories
Szymon (Simon) Wiesenthal was born on December 31, 1908, in Buczacz, a
town in the province of Galicia (now Buchach in Ukraine) in what was
then the eastern fringe of the Austro-Hungarian empire. His father was
a prosperous wholesale sugar merchant.

In spite of all that has been written about him, just what Wiesenthal
did during the war years under German occupation remains unclear. He
has given conflicting stories in three separate accounts of his
wartime activities. The first was given under oath during a two day
interrogation session in May 1948 conducted by an official of the US
Nuremberg war crimes commission. [2] The second is a summary of his
life provided by Wiesenthal as part of a January 1949 "Application for
Assistance" to the International Refugee Committee. [3] And the third
account is given in his autobiography, The Murderers Among Us, first
published in 1967. [4]

Soviet Engineer or Factory Mechanic?
In his 1948 interrogation, Wiesenthal declared that "between 1939 and
1941" he was a "Soviet chief engineer working in Lvov and Odessa." [5]
Consistent with that, he stated in his 1949 declaration that from
December 1939 to April 1940 he worked as an architect in the Black Sea
port of Odessa. But according to his autobiography, he spent the
period between mid-September 1939 and June 1941 in Soviet-ruled Lvov,
where he worked "as a mechanic in a factory that produced bedsprings."
[6]

Relative Freedom
After the Germans took control of Galicia province in June 1941,
Wiesenthal was interned for a time in the Janowska concentration camp
near Lvov, from where he was transferred a few months later to a camp
affiliated with the repair works (OAW) in Lvov of the Ostbahn
("Eastern Railroad") of German-ruled Poland. Wiesenthal reported in
his autobiography that he worked there "as a technician and
draftsman," that he was rather well treated, and that his immediate
superior, who was "secretly anti-Nazi," even permitted him to own two
pistols. He had his own office in a "small wooden hut," and enjoyed
"relative freedom and was permitted to walk all over the yards." [7]

Partisan Fighter?
The next segment of Wiesenthal's life -- from October 1943 to June
1944 -- is the most obscure, and his accounts of this period are
contradictory. During his 1948 interrogation, Wiesenthal said that he
fled from the Janowska camp in Lvov and joined a "partisan group which
operated in the Tarnopol-Kamenopodolsk area." [8] He said that "I was
a partisan from October 6, 1943, until the middle of February 1944,"
and declared that his unit fought against Ukrainian forces, both of
the SS "Galicia" division and of the independent UPA partisan force.
[9]

Wiesenthal said that he held the rank of lieutenant and then major,
and was responsible for building bunkers and fortification lines.
Although he was not explicit, he suggested that this (supposed)
partisan unit was part of the Armia Ludowa ("Peoples Army"), the
Polish Communist military force established and controlled by the
Soviets. [10]

He said that he and other partisans slipped into Lvov in February
1944, where they were "hidden by friends of the A.L. ['People's Army']
group." On June 13, 1944, his group was captured by the German Secret
Field Police. (Although Jewish partisans caught in hiding were often
shot, Wiesenthal reports that he was somehow spared.) Wiesenthal told
much the same story in his 1949 statement. He said that he fled from
internment in early October 1943 and then "fought against the Germans
as a partisan in the forest" for eight months -- from October 2, 1943,
to March 1944. After that, he was "in hiding" in Lvov from March to
June 1944.

Wiesenthal tells a totally different story in his 1967 autobiography.
He reports there that after escaping from the Ostbahn Repair Works on
Oct. 2, 1943, he lived in hiding in the houses of various friends
until June 13, 1944, when he was discovered by Polish and German
police and returned to a concentration camp. He makes no mention of
any partisan membership or activity. [11]

According to both his 1948 interrogation and his 1967 autobiography,
he tried to commit suicide on June 15, 1944, by cutting his wrists.
Remarkably, though, he was saved from death by German SS doctors and
recovered in an SS hospital. [12] He remained in the Lvov
concentration camp "with double rations" for a time, and then, he
reports in his autobiography, he was transferred to various work
camps. He spent the remaining chaotic months, until the end of the
war, in different camps until he was liberated from Mauthausen (in
Austria) by American forces on May 5, 1945. [13]

Did Wiesenthal invent a past as a heroic wartime partisan? Or did he
later try to suppress his record as a Communist fighter? Or is the
true story altogether different -- and too shameful to admit?

Nazi Agent?
Did Wiesenthal voluntarily work for his wartime oppressors? That's the
accusation leveled by Austrian Chancellor Bruno Kreisky, himself of
Jewish ancestry and leader for many years of his country's Socialist
Party. During an interview with foreign journalists in 1975, Kreisky
charged Wiesenthal with using "Mafia methods," rejected his pretense
of "moral authority," and suggested that he was an agent for the
German authorities. Some of his more pertinent remarks, which appeared
in Austria's leading news magazine Profil, include: [14]

I really know Mr. Wiesenthal only from secret reports, and they are
bad, very nasty. I say this as Federal Chancellor ... And I say that
Mr. Wiesenthal had a different relationship with the Gestapo than I
did. Yes, and this can be proven. I can't say more [now]. Everything
else, I'll say in court.

My relationship with the Gestapo is unambiguous. I was their prisoner,
their inmate, and I was interrogated. His relationship was a different
one, I can say, and this will come out clearly. It's bad enough what
I've already said here. But he can't clear himself by charging me with
defaming his honor in the press, as he might wish. It's not that
simple, because that would mean a big court case ... A man like this
doesn't have the right to pretend to be a moral authority. That's what
I say. He doesn't have the right ...

Whether a man who, in my view, is an agent, yes, that's right, and who
uses Mafia methods ... Such a man has to go ...

He is no gentleman, and I would say, to make this clear, so that he
won't become a moral authority, because he is not ... He shouldn't
pretend to be a moral authority ...

I say that Mr. Wiesenthal lived in that time in the Nazi sphere of
influence without being persecuted. Right? And he lived openly without
being persecuted, right? Is that clear? And you perhaps know, if you
know what was going on, that no one could risk that.

He wasn't a "submarine" ... that is, submerged and in hiding, but
instead, he was completely in the open without having to, well, ever
risk persecution. I think that's enough. There were so many
opportunities to be an agent. He didn't have to be a Gestapo agent.
There were many other services.

In response to these damning words, Wiesenthal began efforts to bring
a lawsuit against the Chancellor. Eventually, though, both Wiesenthal
and Kreisky backed away from a major legal clash.

Mauthausen Myths
Before he became famous as a "Nazi hunter," he made a name for himself
as a propagandist. In 1946 Wiesenthal published KZ Mauthausen, an
85-page work that consists mainly of his own amateurish sketches
purporting to represent the horrors of the Mauthausen concentration
camp. One drawing depicts three inmates who had been bound to posts
and brutally put to death by the Germans. [15]

The sketch is completely phony. It was copied -- with some minor
alterations -- from photographs that appeared in Life magazine in
1945, which graphically record the firing-squad execution in December
1944 of three German soldiers who had been caught operating as spies
behind the lines during the "Battle of the Bulge." [16] The source of
the Wiesenthal drawing is instantly obvious to anyone who compares it
with the Life photos. [17]

The irresponsible character of this book is also shown by Wiesenthal's
extensive citation therein of the supposed "death bed confession" of
Mauthausen Commandant Franz Ziereis, according to which four million
were gassed to death with carbon monoxide at the nearby Hartheim
satellite camp. [18] This claim is totally absurd, and no serious
Holocaust historian still accepts it. [19] Also according to the
Ziereis "confession" cited by Wiesenthal, the Germans supposedly
killed another ten million people in Poland, Lithuania and Latvia.
[20] In fact, this fraudulent "confession" was obtained by torture.
[21]

Years later, Wiesenthal was still lying about Mauthausen. In a 1983
interview with the daily newspaper USA Today, he said of his
experience in Mauthausen: "I was one of 34 prisoners alive out of
150,000 who had been put there." [22] This is a blatant falsehood. The
years have apparently not been kind to Wiesenthal's memory, because in
his own autobiography he wrote that "almost 3,000 prisoners died in
Mauthausen after the Americans liberated us on May 5, 1945." [23]
Another former inmate, Evelyn Le Chene, reported in her standard work
about Mauthausen that there were 64,000 inmates in the camp when it
was liberated in May 1945. [24] And according to the Encyclopaedia
Judaica, at least 212,000 inmates survived internment in the
Mauthausen camp complex. [25]

After the war Wiesenthal worked for the US Office of Strategic
Services (the forerunner of the CIA) and the US Army's
Counter-Intelligence Corps (CIC). He was also vice chairman of the
Jewish Central Committee in the US occupation zone of Austria. [26]

'Human Soap'
Wiesenthal has given circulation and credence to one of the most
scurrilous Holocaust stories, the charge that the Germans manufactured
soap from the corpses of murdered Jews. According to this tale, the
letters "RIF" in bars of German-made soap allegedly stood for "Pure
Jewish Fat" ("Rein judisches Fett"). In reality, the initials stood
for "National Center for Industrial Fat Provisioning" ("Reichstelle
fur industrielle Fettversorgung"). [27]

Wiesenthal promoted the "human soap" legend in articles published in
1946 in the Austrian Jewish community paper Der Neue Weg ("The New
Path"). In an article entitled "RIF," he wrote: "The terrible words
'transport for soap' were first heard at the end of 1942. It was in
the [Polish] General Government, and the factory was in Galicia, in
Belzec. From April 1942 until May 1943, 900,000 Jews were used as raw
material in this factory." After the corpses were turned into various
raw materials, Wiesenthal wrote, "The rest, the residual fat stuff,
was used for soap production."

He continued: "After 1942 people in the General Government knew quite
well what the RIF soap meant. The civilized world may not believe the
joy with which the Nazis and their women in the General Government
thought of this soap. In each piece of soap they saw a Jew who had
been magically put there, and had thus been prevented from growing
into a second Freud, Ehrlich or Einstein." [28]

In another imaginative article published in 1946 entitled "Belzec Soap
Factory," Wiesenthal alleged that masses of Jews were exterminated in
electrocution showers: [29]

The people, pressed together and driven on by the SS, Latvians and
Ukrainians, go through the open door into the "bath." Five hundred
persons could fit at a time. The floor of the "bath chamber" was made
of metal and shower heads hung from the ceiling. When the room was
full, the SS turned on the 5,000 volts of electric current in the
metal plate. At the same time water poured from the shower heads. A
short scream and the execution was over. An SS chief physician named
Schmidt determined through a peep hole that the victims were dead. The
second door was opened and the "corpse commando" came in and quickly
removed the dead. It was ready for the next 500.

Today no serious historian accepts the stories that Jewish corpses
were manufactured into bars of soap or that Jews were electrocuted to
death at Belzec (or anywhere).

Wiesenthal's imaginative view of history is not limited to the
twentieth century. In his 1973 book Sails of Hope, he argued that
Christopher Columbus was a secret Jew, and that his famous voyage to
the western hemisphere in 1492 was actually a search for a new
homeland for Europe's Jews. [30]

Wiesenthal is not always wrong, of course. In 1975 and again in 1993
he publicly acknowledged that "there were no extermination camps on
German soil." [31] He thus implicitly conceded that the claims made at
the postwar Nuremberg Tribunal and elsewhere that Buchenwald, Dachau
and other camps in Germany proper were "extermination camps" are not
true.

'Fabrications' About Eichmann
In more than 40 years of "Nazi hunting," Wiesenthal's role in locating
and capturing Adolf Eichmann is often considered his greatest
achievement. [32] (Eichmann headed the wartime SS Jewish affairs
department. He was kidnapped by Israeli agents in Argentina in May
1960 and hanged in Jerusalem after a trial that received worldwide
media attention.)

But Isser Harel, the Israeli official who headed the team that seized
Eichmann, has declared unequivocally that Wiesenthal had "absolutely
nothing" to do with the capture. (Harel is a former head of both the
Mossad and Shin Bet, Israel's foreign and domestic security agencies.)
[33]

Wiesenthal not only "had no role whatsoever" in the apprehension, said
Harel, but in fact he endangered the entire Eichmann operation. In a
278-page manuscript, Harel carefully refuted every claim by Wiesenthal
about his supposed role in identifying and capturing Eichmann. Claims
by Wiesenthal and his many friends about his supposedly crucial role
in capturing the former SS officer, said Harel, have no foundation in
fact. Many specific assertions and incidents described in two books by
Wiesenthal, said the Israeli official, are "complete fabrications."
[34]

"Wiesenthal's reports and statements at that period prove beyond any
doubt that he had no notion of Eichmann's whereabouts," said Harel.
[35] (For example, just before Eichmann's capture in Argentina,
Wiesenthal was placing him in Japan and Saudi Arabia.) [36]

Characterizing Wiesenthal as a rank opportunist, Harel summed up: "All
the information supplied by Wiesenthal before and in anticipation of
the [Eichmann] operation was utterly worthless, and sometimes even
misleading and of negative value." [37]

Reckless Charges in Walus Case
One of Wiesenthal's most spectacular cases involved a Polish-born
Chicago man named Frank Walus. In a letter dated December 10, 1974, he
charged that Walus "delivered Jews to the Gestapo" in Czestochowa and
Kielce in Poland during the war. This letter prompted a US government
investigation and legal action. [38] The Washington Post dealt with
the case in a 1981 article entitled "The Nazi Who Never Was: How a
witch hunt by judge, press and investigators branded an innocent man a
war criminal." The lengthy piece, which was copyrighted by the
American Bar Association, reported: [39]

In January 1977, the United States government accused a Chicagoan
named Frank Walus of having committed atrocities in Poland during
World War II.




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In the following years, this retired factory worker went into debt in
order to raise more than $60,000 to defend himself. He sat in a
courtroom while eleven Jewish survivors of the Nazi occupation of
Poland testified that they saw him murder children, an old woman, a
young woman, a hunchback and others ...

Overwhelming evidence shows that Walus was not a Nazi War criminal,
that he was not even in Poland during World War II.

... In an atmosphere of hatred and loathing verging on hysteria, the
government persecuted an innocent man. In 1974, Simon Wiesenthal, the
famous "Nazi hunter" of Vienna, denounced Walus as "a Pole in Chicago
who performed duties with the Gestapo in the ghettos of Czestochowa
and Kielce and handed over a number of Jews to the Gestapo."

The Chicago weekly newspaper Reader also reported on the case in a
detailed 1981 article headlined: "The Persecution of Frank Walus: To
Catch a Nazi: The U.S. government wanted a war criminal. So, with the
help of Simon Wiesenthal, the Israeli police, the local press and
Judge Julius Hoffman, they invented one." [40] The article stated:

... It is logical to assume that the "reports received by Wiesenthal
[against Walus] actually were rumors... In other words, Simon
Wiesenthal had no evidence against Walus. He denounced him anyway.

While [Judge] Hoffman had the Walus case under advisement, Holocaust
aired on television. During the same period, in April 1978, Simon
Wiesenthal came to Chicago, where he gave interviews taking credit for
the Walus case. "How Nazi-Hunter Helped Find Walus," was the Sun-Times
headline on a story by Bob Olmstead. Wiesenthal told Sun-Times Abe
Peck that he "has never had a case of mistaken identity." "I know
there are thousands of people who wait for my mistake," he said.

It was only after an exhausting legal battle that the man who was
vilified and physically attacked as "the butcher of Kielce" was
finally able to prove that he had spent the war years as a peaceful
farm laborer in Germany. Frank Walus died in August 1994, a broken and
bitterly disappointed man, man.

Wiesenthal's recklessness in the Walus case should have been enough to
permanently discredit him as a reliable investigator. But his Teflon
reputation survived even this.

Wrong about Mengele
Much of the Wiesenthal myth is based on his hunt for Joseph Mengele,
the wartime physician at Auschwitz known as the "Angel of Death." Time
and time again, Wiesenthal claimed to be close on Mengele's heels.
Wiesenthal reported that his informants had "seen" or "just missed"
the elusive physician in Peru, Chile, Brazil, Spain, Greece, and half
a dozen locations in Paraguay. [41]

One of the closest shaves came in the summer of 1960. Wiesenthal
reported that Mengele had been hiding out on a small Greek island,
>from where he escaped by just a few hours. Wiesenthal continued to
peddle this story, complete with precise details, even after a
reporter whom he had hired to check it out informed him that the tale
was false from beginning to end. [42]

According to another Wiesenthal report, Mengele arranged for the
murder in 1960 of one of his former victims, a woman he had supposedly
sterilized in Auschwitz. After spotting her, and her distinctive camp
tattoo, at a hotel in Argentina where he was staying, Mengele
allegedly arranged to have her killed because he feared that she would
expose him. It turned out that the woman was never in a concentration
camp, had no tattoo, had never met Mengele, and her death was a simple
mountaineering accident. [43]

Mengele regularly dined at the finest restaurants in Asuncion, the
Paraguayan capital, Wiesenthal said in 1977, and supposedly drove
around the city with a bevy of armed guards in his black Mercedes
Benz. [44]

Wiesenthal announced in 1985 that he was "100 percent sure" that
Mengele had been hiding out in Paraguay until at least June 1984, and
charged that the Mengele family in Germany knew exactly where. As it
turned out, Wiesenthal was completely wrong. It was later definitively
established that Mengele had died in 1979 in Brazil, where he had been
living for years in anonymous poverty. [45]

Israel's ambassador to Paraguay from 1968 to 1972, Benjamin (Benno)
Varon, remarked in 1983 on the Mengele campaign: "Wiesenthal makes
periodic statements that he is about to catch him, perhaps since
Wiesenthal must raise funds for his activities and the name Mengele is
always good for a plug." Wiesenthal "failed miserably" in the Mengele
case, the diplomat said on another occasion. [46] In the Mengele case,
former Mossad chief Harel remarked, "Wiesenthal's folly borders on the
criminal." [47]

In truth, the bulging Mengele file in Wiesenthal's Vienna
"Documentation Center" was such a jumble of useless information that,
in the words of the London Times, it "only sustained his
self-confirmatory myths and gave scant satisfaction to those who
apparently needed a definitive answer to Mengele's fate." [48]

In the considered view of Gerald Posner and John Ware, coauthors of
Mengele: The Complete Story, Wiesenthal spent years assiduously
cultivating a mythical "self-image of a tireless, dogged sleuth,
pitted against the omnipotent and sinister might of Mengele and a vast
Nazi network." Because of his "knack of playing to the gallery,"
Posner and Ware concluded, Wiesenthal "ultimately compromised his
credibility." [49]

'Incompetence and Arrogance'
Eli Rosenbaum, an official with the US government's "Nazi hunting"
Office of Special Investigations and an investigator for the World
Jewish Congress, took aim at Wiesenthal's carefully cultivated "Nazi
hunter" reputation in a detailed 1993 book, Betrayal. [50] For
example, Rosenbaum mentioned, Wiesenthal "had all these reports
placing Mengele in almost every country in Latin America except the
one he was in -- namely, Brazil." [51]

Wiesenthal, wrote Rosenbaum, has been a "pathetically ineffective"
investigator who had "gone far beyond the buffoonery and false boasts
in prior years." Much of his illustrious career, Rosenbaum said, has
been characterized by "incompetence and arrogance." [52]

Bruno Kreisky once summed up his attitude towards the "Nazi hunter" in
these words: [53]

The engineer Wiesenthal, or whatever else his title is, hates me
because he knows that I despise his activity. The Wiesenthal group is
a quasi-political Mafia that works against Austria with disgraceful
methods. Wiesenthal is known as someone who isn't very careful about
the truth, who is not very selective about his methods and who uses
tricks. He pretends to be the "Eichmann hunter," even though everyone
knows that this was the work of a secret service, and that Wiesenthal
only takes credit for that.

'Commercializing' the Holocaust
The Los Angeles Wiesenthal Center pays the Vienna "Nazi Hunter"
$75,000 a year for the use of his name, the director of Israel's Yad
Vashem Holocaust center said in 1988.

Both the Center and Wiesenthal "commercialize" and "trivialize" the
Holocaust, the director added.

Wiesenthal "threw out" the figure of "11 million who were murdered in
the Holocaust -- six million Jews and five million non-Jews," said the
Yad Vashem official. When asked why he gave these figures, Wiesenthal
replied: "The gentiles will not pay attention if we do not mention
their victims, too." Wiesenthal "chose 'five million (gentiles)'
because he wanted a 'diplomatic' number, one that told of a large
number of gentile victims but in no way was larger than that of Jews
..." [54]

"What Wiesenthal and the Los Angeles Center that bears his name do is
to trivialize the Holocaust," commented The Jewish Press, a weekly
that claims to be the largest-circulation English-language Jewish
community paper in America.

In recent years Wiesenthal has been concerned about the growing impact
of Holocaust revisionism. In "A Message from Simon Wiesenthal"
published by the Center that bears his name, he said: "Today, when I
see the rise of antisemitism here in Europe ... the popularity of Le
Pen, of David Duke, of the Holocaust revisionists, then I am convinced
more than ever about the need for our new [Wiesenthal Center] Beit
Hashoah-Museum of Tolerance" in Los Angeles. [55]

Wiesenthal is often asked why he does not forgive those who persecuted
Jews half a century ago. His stock answer is that although he has the
right to forgive for himself, he does not have the right to forgive on
behalf of others. [56] On the basis of this sophistical logic, though,
neither does he have the right to accuse and track down anyone in the
name of others. Wiesenthal has never confined his "hunt" to those who
victimized him personally.

'Driven by Hatred'
It is difficult to say just what drives this remarkable man. Is it a
craving for fame and praise? Or is he trying to live down a shameful
episode from his past?

Wiesenthal clearly enjoys the praise he receives. "He is a man of
considerable ego, proud of testimonials and honorary degrees," the Los
Angeles Times has reported. [57] Bruno Kreisky has given a simpler
explanation. He said that Wiesenthal is "driven by hatred." [58]

In light of his well-documented record of deceit, lies and
incompetence, the extravagant praise heaped upon this contemptible man
is a sorry reflection of the venal corruptibility and unprincipled
self-deception of our age.

Notes
Quoted in: M. Weber, "'Nazi Hunter' Caught Lying," The Spotlight
(Washington, DC), Oct. 26, 1981, p. 9.
Interrogation of S. Wiesenthal on May 27 and 28, 1948, conducted by
Curt Ponger of the Interrogation Branch of the Evidence Division of
the Office (U.S.) Chief of Counsel for War Crimes. Interrogation No.
2820. On file at the National Archives (Washington, DC), "Records of
the U.S. Nürnberg War Crimes Trials Interrogations, 1946-49," Record
Group 238, microfilm M-1019, roll 79, frames 460-469 and 470-476. Also
cited in: "New Documents Raise New Doubts About Simon Wiesenthal's War
Years," The Journal of Historical Review, Winter 1988-89 (Vol. 8, No.
4), pp. 489-503.
PCIRO (International Refugee Organization, Austria) "Application for
Assistance" filled out and signed by Wiesenthal. Dated Jan. 16,1949.
(This was a trial exhibit in the Walus court case. Photocopy in
author's possession.)
Simon Wiesenthal, The Murderers Among Us: The Simon Wiesenthal
Memoirs. Edited by Joseph Wechsberg. (New York: McGraw Hill, 1967)
Interrogation of S. Wiesenthal, May 27, 1948, pp. 1-2.
The Murderers Among Us, p. 27.
The Murderers Among Us, pp. 29-35. This account is not inconsistent
with his 1948 and 1949 statements; See also: Simon Wiesenthal, Justice
Not Vengeance (New York: Grove Weidenfeld: 1989), pp. 7-9.
Interrogation of May 27, 1948, p. 2. In a signed 1945 statement,
Wiesenthal wrote:
"... I escaped on October 18, 1943, from the Lemberg [Lvov] hard labor
camp where I was kept as a prisoner during my two years of labor at
the railroad works... and went into hiding until joining Jewish
partisans on November 21, 1943, who operated there. It was while
fighting in the partisan ranks against the Nazis that we managed to
collect and bury for safekeeping considerable amount of evidence...
When the partisans were dispersed by the Germans I fled to Lemberg on
February 10, 1944, and again went into hiding. On June 13, 1944, I was
found during a house to house search and was immediately sent to the
famous Lacki camp, near that city ..." Source: "Curriculum Vitae of
Ing. Wiesenthal, Szymon." SHAEF, Subject: War Crimes, July 6, 1945.
Records of USAEUR, War Crimes Branch, National Archives (Suitland,
Maryland), Records Group 338, Box 534, Folder 000-50-59. Wiesenthal's
alleged partisans activities are also recounted in Alan Levy, The
Wiesenthal File (Grand Rapids, Mich.: Eerdmans, 1994), pp. 50-53.
Interrogation of May 28, 1948, pp. 1-2.
Interrogation of May 28, 1948, p. 5.
The Murderers Among Us, pp. 35-37.
The Murderers Among Us, pp. 37-38; Interrogation, May 27, 1948, p. 2,
and May 28, 1948, p. 5; A. Levy, The Wiesenthal File (1994), p. 54.
The Murderers Among Us, pp. 39-44; Interrogation, May 27, 1948, pp.
2-3.
Interview with foreign journalists in Vienna, Nov. 10, 1975. Text
published in: "War Wiesenthal ein Gestapo-Kollaborateur?," Profil
(Vienna), No. 47, Nov. 18, 1975, pp. 16, 22-23; Reprinted in: Robert
H. Drechsler, Simon Wiesenthal: Dokumentation (Vienna: 1982), pp.
215-218, 222-223; Quoted in part in A. Levy, The Wiesenthal File
(1994), p. 349, and in, S. Wiesenthal, Justice Not Vengeance (New
York: 1989), pp. 7, 299. Kreisky was not alone in charging that
Wiesenthal had collaborated with the German Gestapo. Wim Van Leer,
columnist for the English-language daily Jerusalem Post, stated in May
1986 that a high-level police official in Vienna, citing confidential
police records, had told him during the early 1960s that these and
other charges against Wiesenthal were true. Source: J. Bushinsky,
"Nazi hunter sues over charges of links to Gestapo," Chicago
Sun-Times, Jan. 31, 1987.
Simon Wiesenthal, KZ Mauthausen (Linz and Vienna: Ibis-Verlag, 1946).
Facsimile reprint in: Robert H. Drechsler, Simon Wiesenthal:
Dokumentation (Vienna: 1982), p. 64.
"Firing Squad," Life magazine, US edition, June 11, 1945, p. 50.
M. Weber and K. Stimely, "The Sleight-of-Hand of Simon Wiesenthal,"
The Journal of Historical Review, Spring 1984 (Vol. 5, No. 1), pp.
120-122; D. National-Zeitung (Munich), May 21, 1993, p. 3.
S. Wiesenthal, KZ Mauthausen (1946). See also facsimile reprint in:
Robert H. Drechsler, Simon Wiesenthal: Dokumentation (Vienna: 1982),
pp. 42, 46. This "confession" is a somewhat altered version of
Nuremberg document NO-1973; A new edition of Wiesenthal's 1946 book
has been published under the title Denn sie Wussten, was sie tun:
Zeichnungen und Aufzeichnungen aus dem KZ Mauthausen (Vienna: F.
Deuticke, 1995). I am grateful to Robert Faurisson for bringing this
to my attention. He points out in a July 1995 essay that Wiesenthal
has deleted from this new edition both the "death bed confession" of
Ziereis as well as his drawing of the three Mauthausen inmates.
According to the Encyclopaedia Judaica ("Mauthausen,", Vol. 11, p.
1138), a grand total of 206,000 persons were inmates of Mauthausen and
its satellite camps (including Hartheim) at one time or another.
S. Wiesenthal, KZ Mauthausen (1946). Facsimile reprint in: R.
Drechsler, Simon Wiesenthal: Dokumentation, p. 47.
R. Faurisson, "The Gas Chambers: Truth or Lie?," The Journal of
Historical Review, Winter 1981, pp. 330, 361. See also: Hans
Fritzsche, The Sword in the Scales (London: 1953), p. 185; Gerald
Reitlinger, The Final Solution (London: Sphere, pb., 1971), p. 515; M.
Weber, "The Nuremberg Trials and the Holocaust," The Journal of
Historical Review, Summer 1992 (Vol. 12, No. 2), p. 182.
USA Today, April 21, 1983, p. 9A.
The Murderers Among Us, p. 44.
Evelyn Le Chene, Mauthausen: The History of a Death Camp (London:
1971), pp. 166-168 and 190-191.
"Mauthausen", Encyclopaedia Judaica (New York and Jerusalem: 1971),
vol. 11, p. 1138.
C. Moritz, ed., Current Biography 1975 (New York: H.W. Wilson, 1975),
p. 442; Wiesenthal interrogation of May 27, 1948, p. 3.
Mark Weber, "Jewish Soap," The Journal of Historical Review, Summer
1991 (Vol. 11, No. 2), pp. 217-227; See also: Robert Faurisson, "La
savon juif," Annales d'Histoire Revisionniste (Paris), No. 1,
Printemps 1987, pp. 153-159.
Der Neue Weg (Vienna), No. 17/18, 1946, pp. 4-5. Article entitled
"RIF" by "Ing. Wiesenth." (Simon Wiesenthal).
Der Neue Weg (Vienna), Nr. 19/20, 1946, pp. 14-15. Article entitled
"Seifenfabrik Belsetz" ("Belzec Soap Factory"), by "Ing. S.Wiesenth."
S. Wiesenthal, Sails of Hope (Macmillan, 1973).
Letters by Wiesenthal in Books and Bookmen (London), April 1975, p. 5,
and in Stars and Stripes (European edition), Jan. 24, 1993, p. 14.
Facsimile of Stars and Stripes letter in The Journal of Historical
Review, May-June 1993, p. 10; In 1986 Wiesenthal lied about his 1975
statement. In a letter dated May 12, 1986, to Prof. John George of
Central State University in Edmond, Oklahoma (copy in author's
possession), Wiesenthal wrote: "I have never stated that 'there were
no extermination camps on German soil.' This quote is false, I could
never have said such a thing."
For example, in a letter (dated Sept. 13, 1993), published in The New
York Times, Sept. 29, 1993, Wiesenthal boasted: "I succeeded in
putting a number of Nazis on trial who had perpetrated horrendous
crimes in the Nazi era, including Adolf Eichmann, Franz Stangl, Gustav
Wagner,..."
S. Birnbaum, "Wiesenthal's Claim on Eichmann Disputed by Former Mossad
Head," Jewish Telegraphic Agency Daily News Bulletin (New York), April
4, 1989. (Dispatch dated April 3).
J. Schachter, "Wiesenthal had no role in Eichmann capture," The
Jerusalem Post, May 18, 1991. Facsimile reprint in Christian News, May
27, 1991, p. 19. See also: Ruth Sinai, "Wiesenthal's role in
Eichmann's capture disputed," Associated Press, The Orange County
Register, Feb. 25, 1990, p. A 26; L. Lagnado, "How Simon Wiesenthal
Helped a Secret Nazi," Forward (New York), Sept. 24, 1993, pp. 1, 3.
J. Schachter, The Jerusalem Post, May 18, 1991 (cited above).
Facsimile in Christian News, May 27, 1991, p. 19.
Arnold Forster, Square One (New York: 1988), pp. 187-189. (Forster was
general counsel of the Anti-Defamation League, a major Zionist
organization.)
J. Goldberg, "Top Spy Says Wiesenthal Lied About His Exploits,"
Forward (New York), Nov. 12, 1993, pp. 1, 4; R. Sinai, "Wiesenthal's
role...," The Orange County Register, Feb. 25, 1990 (cited above).
Michael Arndt, "The Wrong Man," The Chicago Tribune Magazine, Dec. 2,
1984, pp. 15-35, esp. p. 23; Charles Ashman and Robert J. Wagman, The
Nazi Hunters (New York: Pharos Books, 1988), pp. 193-195.
"The Nazi Who Never Was," The Washington Post, May 10, 1981, pp. B5,
B8.
"The Persecution of Frank Walus," Reader (Chicago), Jan. 23, 1981, pp.
19, 30. After Wiesenthal was ultimately proven wrong in a similar case
in Canada, the Toronto Sun newspaper commented in an editorial: "It
seems that material provided by professional Nazi hunter Simon
Wiesenthal is wrong, but repeated anyway [in the media]." (Quoted by
M. Weber in The Journal of Historical Review, Spring 1984, pp.
120-122.)
Gerald L. Posner and John Ware, Mengele: The Complete Story (New York:
Dell, 1987), pp. 220-221; Gerald Astor, The 'Last' Nazi: The Life and
Times of Dr. Joseph Mengele (Toronto: Paperjacks, 1986), p. 202.
G. Posner and J. Ware, Mengele: The Complete Story (cited above), p.
220.
G. Posner and J. Ware, Mengele (cited above), pp. 179-180; G. Astor,
The 'Last' Nazi (cited above), pp. 178-180.
Time magazine, Sept. 26, 1977, pp. 36-38. Cited in: G. Posner and J.
Ware, Mengele (cited above), p. 219.
"Hunting the 'Angel of Death'," Newsweek, May 20, 1985, pp. 36-38. See
also: M. Weber, "Lessons of the Mengele Affair," Journal of Historical
Review, Fall 1985 (Vol. 6, No. 3), p. 382. On Wiesenthal's distortion
of truth in the Mermelstein-IHR case, see: M. Weber, "Declaration,"
Journal of Historical Review, Spring 1982 (Vol. 3, No. 1), pp. 42-43;
M. Weber, "Albert Speer and the 'Holocaust,"' Journal of Historical
Review, Winter 1984 (Vol. 5, Nos. 2-4), p. 439.
Midstream, Dec. 1983, p. 24. Quoted in: G. Posner and J. Ware, Mengele
(cited above), p. 219; Los Angeles Times, Nov. 15, 1985, p. 2.
J. Schachter, "Wiesenthal had no role in Eichmann capture," The
Jerusalem Post, May 18, 1991. Facsimile reprint in Christian News, May
27, 1991, p. 19.
Tom Bower in The Times (London), June 14, 1985, p. 14. Quoted in: G.
Posner and J. Ware, Mengele (cited above), pp. 222-223.
G. Posner and J. Ware, Mengele (cited above), pp. 222-223.
Betrayal, by Eli M. Rosenbaum, with William Hoffer. Published in 1993
by St. Martin's Press (New York). Reviewed by Jacob Heilbrunn in The
New York Times Book Review, Oct. 10, 1993, p. 9.
Quoted in L. Lagnado, "How Simon Wiesenthal...," Forward (New York),
Sept. 24, 1993, p. 3.
The New York Times Book Review, Oct. 10, 1993, p. 9; Forward (New
York), Sept. 24, 1993, p. 3.
"Was hat Wiesenthal zu verbergen?," D. National-Zeitung (Munich), Nov.
11, 1988, p. 4.
David Sinai, "News We Doubt You've Seen," The Jewish Press (Brooklyn,
NY), Dec. 23, 1988. Based on report in the Israeli newspaper Ha'aretz,
Dec. 16, 1988.
"A Message from Simon Wiesenthal," Response: The Wiesenthal Center
World Report, Winter 1992, p. 11.
Charles Ashman and Robert J. Wagman, The Nazi Hunters (New York:
Pharos Books, 1988), p. 286; A. Popkin, "Nazi-Hunter Simon Wiesenthal:
'Information is Our Best Defense'," Washington Jewish Week, Oct. 29,
1987, p. 2.
Quoted in: M. Weber, The Spotlight, Oct. 26, 1981, p. 9.
Quoted in D. National-Zeitung (Munich), July 8, 1988, p. 7, and in, R.
Drechsler, Simon Wiesenthal: Dokumentation (Vienna: 1982), p. 199.
#2009
 From The Journal of Historical Review, July-August 1995 (Vol. 15, No.
4), pages 8-16. This is a revised and updated version of an article
that first appeared in the Winter 1989-90 issue of The Journal of
Historical Review.
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studied history at the University of Illinois (Chicago), the
University of Munich, Portland State University and Indiana University
(M.A., 1977). For nine years he served as editor of the IHR's Journal
of Historical Review.
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(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.


Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late
nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
work:(780)492-0473

And also: George Firestone: "George" ,
and davejoll@ihug.co.nz.

Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

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IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
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They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
for many years around the world.




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On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:33:28 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>>Another significant article that merits discussion!!!
>>On Fri, 19 Sep 1997 13:15:13 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI
>> wrote:

Just a moment ago, on soc.culture.polish,
Dr. J. Ilicki, Associate Professor of Sociology
and Judaic Studies on Upsalla University raised
the question of Polish Polish in the service of
Germans during occupation of Poland.  The only
reason for this question at this time seems to be
his need to stir interethnic hatered.  Provocatively,
Dr. Ilicki asks:
1) who were the members of the
police, volunteers or draftees?,

2) what was their social status?

3) what happened to them after the war?

Just to play completely innocent (and dumb) he also asks
why they were called Granatowa (dark-navy-blue) Police.

Only naive will believe that Prof. Ilicki does not
know the answers.
Also only naive will believe that he is not interested
in Pinsk the hometown of his parents and allegedly
the site of the burial of his grandparents and over
30,000 pinksers (Jews from Pinsk).  He admitted
 that his mother listed them as killed there with
Yad Vashem.  However, young (about 40 years old)
Julian pretends disintrest, because he is afraid that
exhumations might start at the alleged burial site
and will find no skeletons as same happened last
year at nearby Mariompole, presently in Lithuania.

But coming back to Dr Illicki question: Polish Police
during German occupation was  dramatically reduced
in numbers and pre-war policemen were forced to
serve as an auxillary force to German Ordnung Polizei.
They were ususally not armed,and when armed never
given more than five bullets for their long rifles.
Moreover, after each use of firearm they
(as well as the Ukraininan Police) had to write
a report for what target each bullet was used
and with what effectivness, hardly an invitation to
 the genocide.

Hardly truth to Pawlikowski's story too.

On the other hand there was a police force in
the Third Reich, in which service was completely
voluntary.  It was called Ordnungdienst.  Their
emblem was a light alloy Star of David.  The
social background of these Jewish collaborators
according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18%
with post-graduate degrees,  60% with college degree,
20% with elementary education.  These are data
>from self-serving, post-war questionaries.

But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the
requirement was that EACH Jewish policeman
has at least matura (two years of college)
see page 489 of his book.  In practice, the
Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
journalist who with the day of German
occupation immediately were fired from
their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because
the schools were closed.

The service was voluntary. Take the job and keep
your life a little longer or die now!

Pawlikowski forgot how the Soviets were conscripted.
Under Stalin they ran to enlist hoping to avoid being
killed in the next "relocation"!

While Polish teachers joined the underground,
unemployed Jewish intelligentia clamored for the police work.

Some of it was really gruesome as your remember
>from our previous description of the Feb. 1942
execution on Rybna Street market place in Lodz.
German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown
endlessly in Wisenthal Museum in LA.  Thousands
of Jews standing and watching behind three
uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered
pistols facing Jewish crowd and about to be hanged
women passing out and forced into
the noose by Jewish Police

Jozef Pawlikowski

Herman


"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
is a revolutionary act."
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'


I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
I like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, PAMYAT, HAMAS or Aryan Nations,etc.

CALL late nights best, or even VISIT me:
Donald Ray Ellis
aka Pat Blakely/RevWhite/Mike Kalvatis/Rob Stewart ET AL
108 E. Victory Street
Star City, Arkansas 71667
Tel: (870) 628-1437
Email: voiceofreason@blakely.harrogate.net

My associate in Canada, who is like me, is:
Dr Laurence B. Shiff (Nazihunter)
327 Cortleigh Boulevard
Toronto, Ontario M5N 1R2 CA
Tel: 416-785-4574.

alternate

KASPU COM
2788 Bathurst St.
Toronto, Ontario m6b3a3 CA
Tel: 416-789-5691
(FAX) 416-789-5691
E-Mail: shiff@kaspu.com


First,let us kill all the lawyers! - W.Shakespeare
First, we get rid of all the politicians! - Mao tse Dung
Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled-as fertiliser!! Me

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
is a revolutionary act."
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org


Posted courtesy of : Paul Kneisel, who likes late
night discussions, even from Christian Identity,
Pamyat, Aryan Nations, Stormfront, HAMAS, etc.
I am together with McVay ,L.Schiff,and Boris Dynin
regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.

CALL, best late nights (718)390-8692
or even VISIT me:
54 Wall St,
Staten Island, NY 10301-1869

My business contact is:
tallpaul@NYCT.NET
NAMBLA.org
200 East Tenth Street #603
New York,, NY 10003
(212)-568-6690


Posted by: Boris Dynin = NAMBLA executive &
Henry who like
late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.


CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
Email me: boris@movil.com , or even
VISIT me at:
55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco  94132

Ken McVay invites callers to his homosexuals escorts office:
1-250-616-9431
Or, VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?

http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg


Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to work:(780)492-0473


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the website for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Or, other useful websites include:
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natvan.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay rot in hell.




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Unfortunately, too true.
Always, the ZYDS do their best to foment wars, and other miseries, everywhere
in the world, just to increase their power and the Jew World Order.

On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 09:19:19 -0700, FredBurg 
wrote:

>Those who have failed to learn from the past 2000 years of history, will be
>doomed to repeat history.
>
>With now an extra 51 well documented proven cases of ZHID  COLLABORATION
>WITH NAZIS, besides notorious KASTNER case,  one MUST question the
>HOLOHOAX figures!!
>
>Now even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to be a nazi GESTAPO
>COLLABORATOR!!
>
>On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:11:30 -0700, Ken Levi  wrote:
>
>>For the past 2000 years, the world has suffered because of the cursed
>>Christkiller ZHIDS.
>
>>Not just the Kollaboraci of the ZHIDS with the nazis.
>
>
>>On 27 Sep 2004 16:03:09 -0000, PhilMathews 
>>wrote:
>
>>>Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag in Canada,
>>>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>>>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>>>unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>>>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, wants all to know
>>>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
>
>>>Here is a photo of Ken McVay, director of WWW.NIZKOR.ORG--
>>>Does he not have the uncouth look as to fit the profile of a
>>>person who would say in general regarding child porn:
>>>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>>>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and
>>>have yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn."
>>>I've seen photos of naked children, ... and fail to see the
>>>harm, or any great moral danger to our society)."?
>>>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>>>     Would any of you want to leave this person, Ken McVay,
>>>                alone with your children?
>
>
>>>From: Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header (JohannSebastianBott)
>>>Subject: Re:ZHID ORDNUNGSPOLIZEI = ZYDOWSKY KOLABORANCI!!!
>>>Newsgroups: pl.regionalne.krakow,pl.regionalne.wroclaw
>>>On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:33:28 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>
>>Another significant article that merits discussion!!!
>
>>On Fri, 19 Sep 1997 13:15:13 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI
>> wrote:
>
>> > Just a moment ago, on soc.culture.polish,
>> > Dr. J. Ilicki, Associate Professor of Sociology
>> > and Judaic Studies on Upsalla University raised
>> > the question of Polish Polish in the service of
>> > Germans during occupation of Poland.  The only
>> > reason for this question at this time seems to be
>> > his need to stir interethnic hatered.  Provocatively,
>> > Dr. Ilicki asks:
>> > 1) who were the members of the
>> > police, volunteers or draftees?,
>> > 2) what was their social status?
>> > 3) what happened to them after the war?
>> > Just to play completely innocent (and dumb) he also asks
>> > why they were called Granatowa (dark-navy-blue) Police.
>
>> > Only naive will believe that Prof. Ilicki does not
>> > know the answers.
>> > Also only naive will believe that he is not interested
>> > in Pinsk the hometown of his parents and allegedly
>> > the site of the burial of his grandparents and over
>> > 30,000 pinksers (Jews from Pinsk).  He admitte
>> > that his mother listed them as killed there with
>> > Yad Vashem.  However, young (about 40 years old)
>> > Julian pretends disintrest, because he is afraid that
>> > exhumations might start at the alleged burial site
>> > and will find no skeletons as same happened last
>> > year at nearby Mariompole, presently in Lithuania.
>
>> > But coming back to Dr Illicki question: Polish Police
>> > during German occupation was  dramatically reduced
>> > in numbers and pre-war policemen were forced to
>> > serve as an auxillary force to German Ordnung Polizei.
>> > They were ususally not armed,and when armed never
>> > given more than five bullets for their long rifles.
>> > Moreover, after each use of firearm they
>> > (as well as the Ukraininan Police) had to write
>> > a report for what target each bullet was used
>> > and with what effectivness, hardly an invitation to
>> > the genocide.
>
>>>>>>> Hardly truth to Pawlikowski's story too.
>
>> > On the other hand there was a police force in
>> > the Third Reich, in which service was completely
>> > voluntary.  It was called Ordnungdienst.  Their
>> > emblem was a light alloy Star of David.  The
>> > social background of these Jewish collaborators
>> > according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18%
>> > with post-graduate degrees,  60% with college degree,
>> > 20% with elementary education.  These are data
>> > from self-serving, post-war questionaries.
>
>> > But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the
>> > requirement was that EACH Jewish policeman
>> > has at least matura (two years of college)
>> > see page 489 of his book.  In practice, the
>> > Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
>> > journalist who with the day of German
>> > occupation immediately were fired from
>> > their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because
>> > the schools were closed.
>
>> The service was voluntary. Take the job and keep
>> your life a little longer or die now!
>
>> Pawlikowski forgot how the Soviets were conscripted.
>> Under Stalin they ran to enlist hoping to avoid being
>> killed in the next "relocation"!
>
>> > While Polish teachers joined the underground,
>> > unemployed Jewish intelligentia clamored for the police work.
>
>> > Some of it was really gruesome as you remember
>> > from our previous description of the Feb. 1942
>> > execution on Rybna Street market place in Lodz.
>> > German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown
>> > endlessly in Wiesenthal Museum in LA.  Thousands
>> > of Jews standing and watching behind three
>> > uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered
>> > pistols facing Jewish crowd and about to be hanged
>> > women passing out and forced into
>> > the noose by Jewish Policemen.
>> > -------------
>> > Jozef Pawlikowski
>
>> Herman
>
>First,let us kill all the lawyers! - W.Shakespeare
>First, we get rid of all the politicians! - Mao Tse Dung
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled-as fertiliser!! Me
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>is a revolutionary act."
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages.
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant
>
>
>We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>
>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>office: VISIT at:
>#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>or call: 1-250-616-9431
>
>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
>should give an indication as to the why.
>
>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>
>Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked"?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>
>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>
>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late
>nights.
>
>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
>send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>work:(780)492-0473
>
>And also:panPiotrGlownia - panPiotrGlownia@swipnet.se
>SINCE I LIKE TO RECEIVE LOTS OF EMAILS, FEEL FREE TO SUBSCRIBE ME TO
>ALL KINDS OF MAILLISTS, ESPECIALLY FOR SEX, AND HOMOSEXUALS.
>
>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com
>
>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>IHR - www.ihr.org
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
>
>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>
>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>
>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>
>In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>for many years around the world.



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On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 22:16:48 +0200, in de.soc.politik.misc Sonia Cabrera
 wrote:

Weiss jemand genaueres über die Vorwürfe, das Wiesenthal mit der Gestapo
kollaborierte? In der Tagesschau wurde gemeldet, das Wiesenthal die
Kollaboration unterstellt wurde, da es unerklärlich scheint, das er 12
verschiedene KZs überlebte.
Dazu folgendes im Netz:

Eichmann reiste zusammen mit Hagen. Ihr Unternehmen war in der Ge- schichte
der Kooperation zwischen Zionisten und Nazis gewiß nur eine Episode. Aber
die Tatsache, daß der berüchtigte Judenmörder Eichmann damals bei den
Zionisten sich größter Wertschätzung er- freute, war so entlarvend, daß man
sie tunlichst zu verbergen trachtete. Da die Tatsache der Reise früher oder
später ans Licht kommen mochte, wählte man das einfachste Verfahren: Man
gab den Schwarzen Peter weiter. Bereits 1947 findet sich in einer Broschüre
von Simon Wiesenthal die Mitteilung, Eichmanns Reise habe dem Ziel gedient,
Kontakt zu den aufständischen Palästinensern aufzunehmen und mit dem Mufti
zu konspirieren.[28] Diese Lüge hat seither immer neue Varianten erlebt und
ist sogar im Eichmann-Prozess in Jerusalem wiederholt worden.

http://www.aldeilis.net/zion/zionhol12.html


On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 23:30:16 -0700, in soc.culture.palestine
WakeUp2005@adelphia.net wrote:

Simon Wiesenthal: Fraudulent 'Nazi Hunter'
By Mark Weber

For more than 40 years, Simon Wiesenthal has been tracking hundreds of
"Nazi criminals" from his "Jewish Documentation Center" in Vienna. For
his work as the world's most prominent "Nazi hunter," he has been
awarded several honorary degrees and numerous medals, including
Germany's highest decoration. In a formal White House ceremony in
August 1980, a teary-eyed President Carter presented him with a
special gold medal awarded by the US Congress. President Reagan
praised him in November 1988 as one of the "true heroes" of this
century.

This living legend was portrayed in flattering terms by the late
Laurence Oliver in the 1978 film fantasy "The Boys From Brazil," and
by Ben Kingsley in the 1989 HBO made-for-television movie "Murderers
Among Us: The Simon Wiesenthal Story." One of world's most prominent
Holocaust organizations bears his name: the Simon Wiesenthal Center of
Los Angeles.

Wiesenthal's reputation as a moral authority is undeserved. The man
whom The Washington Post has called the "Holocaust's Avenging Angel"
[1] has a little known but well-documented record of reckless
disregard for truth. He has lied about his own wartime experiences,
misrepresented his postwar "Nazi-hunting" achievements, and has spread
vile falsehoods about alleged German atrocities.

Different Stories
Szymon (Simon) Wiesenthal was born on December 31, 1908, in Buczacz, a
town in the province of Galicia (now Buchach in Ukraine) in what was
then the eastern fringe of the Austro-Hungarian empire. His father was
a prosperous wholesale sugar merchant.

In spite of all that has been written about him, just what Wiesenthal
did during the war years under German occupation remains unclear. He
has given conflicting stories in three separate accounts of his
wartime activities. The first was given under oath during a two day
interrogation session in May 1948 conducted by an official of the US
Nuremberg war crimes commission. [2] The second is a summary of his
life provided by Wiesenthal as part of a January 1949 "Application for
Assistance" to the International Refugee Committee. [3] And the third
account is given in his autobiography, The Murderers Among Us, first
published in 1967. [4]

Soviet Engineer or Factory Mechanic?
In his 1948 interrogation, Wiesenthal declared that "between 1939 and
1941" he was a "Soviet chief engineer working in Lvov and Odessa." [5]
Consistent with that, he stated in his 1949 declaration that from
December 1939 to April 1940 he worked as an architect in the Black Sea
port of Odessa. But according to his autobiography, he spent the
period between mid-September 1939 and June 1941 in Soviet-ruled Lvov,
where he worked "as a mechanic in a factory that produced bedsprings."
[6]

Relative Freedom
After the Germans took control of Galicia province in June 1941,
Wiesenthal was interned for a time in the Janowska concentration camp
near Lvov, from where he was transferred a few months later to a camp
affiliated with the repair works (OAW) in Lvov of the Ostbahn
("Eastern Railroad") of German-ruled Poland. Wiesenthal reported in
his autobiography that he worked there "as a technician and
draftsman," that he was rather well treated, and that his immediate
superior, who was "secretly anti-Nazi," even permitted him to own two
pistols. He had his own office in a "small wooden hut," and enjoyed
"relative freedom and was permitted to walk all over the yards." [7]

Partisan Fighter?
The next segment of Wiesenthal's life -- from October 1943 to June
1944 -- is the most obscure, and his accounts of this period are
contradictory. During his 1948 interrogation, Wiesenthal said that he
fled from the Janowska camp in Lvov and joined a "partisan group which
operated in the Tarnopol-Kamenopodolsk area." [8] He said that "I was
a partisan from October 6, 1943, until the middle of February 1944,"
and declared that his unit fought against Ukrainian forces, both of
the SS "Galicia" division and of the independent UPA partisan force.
[9]

Wiesenthal said that he held the rank of lieutenant and then major,
and was responsible for building bunkers and fortification lines.
Although he was not explicit, he suggested that this (supposed)
partisan unit was part of the Armia Ludowa ("Peoples Army"), the
Polish Communist military force established and controlled by the
Soviets. [10]

He said that he and other partisans slipped into Lvov in February
1944, where they were "hidden by friends of the A.L. ['People's Army']
group." On June 13, 1944, his group was captured by the German Secret
Field Police. (Although Jewish partisans caught in hiding were often
shot, Wiesenthal reports that he was somehow spared.) Wiesenthal told
much the same story in his 1949 statement. He said that he fled from
internment in early October 1943 and then "fought against the Germans
as a partisan in the forest" for eight months -- from October 2, 1943,
to March 1944. After that, he was "in hiding" in Lvov from March to
June 1944.

Wiesenthal tells a totally different story in his 1967 autobiography.
He reports there that after escaping from the Ostbahn Repair Works on
Oct. 2, 1943, he lived in hiding in the houses of various friends
until June 13, 1944, when he was discovered by Polish and German
police and returned to a concentration camp. He makes no mention of
any partisan membership or activity. [11]

According to both his 1948 interrogation and his 1967 autobiography,
he tried to commit suicide on June 15, 1944, by cutting his wrists.
Remarkably, though, he was saved from death by German SS doctors and
recovered in an SS hospital. [12] He remained in the Lvov
concentration camp "with double rations" for a time, and then, he
reports in his autobiography, he was transferred to various work
camps. He spent the remaining chaotic months, until the end of the
war, in different camps until he was liberated from Mauthausen (in
Austria) by American forces on May 5, 1945. [13]

Did Wiesenthal invent a past as a heroic wartime partisan? Or did he
later try to suppress his record as a Communist fighter? Or is the
true story altogether different -- and too shameful to admit?

Nazi Agent?
Did Wiesenthal voluntarily work for his wartime oppressors? That's the
accusation leveled by Austrian Chancellor Bruno Kreisky, himself of
Jewish ancestry and leader for many years of his country's Socialist
Party. During an interview with foreign journalists in 1975, Kreisky
charged Wiesenthal with using "Mafia methods," rejected his pretense
of "moral authority," and suggested that he was an agent for the
German authorities. Some of his more pertinent remarks, which appeared
in Austria's leading news magazine Profil, include: [14]

I really know Mr. Wiesenthal only from secret reports, and they are
bad, very nasty. I say this as Federal Chancellor ... And I say that
Mr. Wiesenthal had a different relationship with the Gestapo than I
did. Yes, and this can be proven. I can't say more [now]. Everything
else, I'll say in court.

My relationship with the Gestapo is unambiguous. I was their prisoner,
their inmate, and I was interrogated. His relationship was a different
one, I can say, and this will come out clearly. It's bad enough what
I've already said here. But he can't clear himself by charging me with
defaming his honor in the press, as he might wish. It's not that
simple, because that would mean a big court case ... A man like this
doesn't have the right to pretend to be a moral authority. That's what
I say. He doesn't have the right ...

Whether a man who, in my view, is an agent, yes, that's right, and who
uses Mafia methods ... Such a man has to go ...

He is no gentleman, and I would say, to make this clear, so that he
won't become a moral authority, because he is not ... He shouldn't
pretend to be a moral authority ...

I say that Mr. Wiesenthal lived in that time in the Nazi sphere of
influence without being persecuted. Right? And he lived openly without
being persecuted, right? Is that clear? And you perhaps know, if you
know what was going on, that no one could risk that.

He wasn't a "submarine" ... that is, submerged and in hiding, but
instead, he was completely in the open without having to, well, ever
risk persecution. I think that's enough. There were so many
opportunities to be an agent. He didn't have to be a Gestapo agent.
There were many other services.

In response to these damning words, Wiesenthal began efforts to bring
a lawsuit against the Chancellor. Eventually, though, both Wiesenthal
and Kreisky backed away from a major legal clash.

Mauthausen Myths
Before he became famous as a "Nazi hunter," he made a name for himself
as a propagandist. In 1946 Wiesenthal published KZ Mauthausen, an
85-page work that consists mainly of his own amateurish sketches
purporting to represent the horrors of the Mauthausen concentration
camp. One drawing depicts three inmates who had been bound to posts
and brutally put to death by the Germans. [15]

The sketch is completely phony. It was copied -- with some minor
alterations -- from photographs that appeared in Life magazine in
1945, which graphically record the firing-squad execution in December
1944 of three German soldiers who had been caught operating as spies
behind the lines during the "Battle of the Bulge." [16] The source of
the Wiesenthal drawing is instantly obvious to anyone who compares it
with the Life photos. [17]

The irresponsible character of this book is also shown by Wiesenthal's
extensive citation therein of the supposed "death bed confession" of
Mauthausen Commandant Franz Ziereis, according to which four million
were gassed to death with carbon monoxide at the nearby Hartheim
satellite camp. [18] This claim is totally absurd, and no serious
Holocaust historian still accepts it. [19] Also according to the
Ziereis "confession" cited by Wiesenthal, the Germans supposedly
killed another ten million people in Poland, Lithuania and Latvia.
[20] In fact, this fraudulent "confession" was obtained by torture.
[21]

Years later, Wiesenthal was still lying about Mauthausen. In a 1983
interview with the daily newspaper USA Today, he said of his
experience in Mauthausen: "I was one of 34 prisoners alive out of
150,000 who had been put there." [22] This is a blatant falsehood. The
years have apparently not been kind to Wiesenthal's memory, because in
his own autobiography he wrote that "almost 3,000 prisoners died in
Mauthausen after the Americans liberated us on May 5, 1945." [23]
Another former inmate, Evelyn Le Chene, reported in her standard work
about Mauthausen that there were 64,000 inmates in the camp when it
was liberated in May 1945. [24] And according to the Encyclopaedia
Judaica, at least 212,000 inmates survived internment in the
Mauthausen camp complex. [25]

After the war Wiesenthal worked for the US Office of Strategic
Services (the forerunner of the CIA) and the US Army's
Counter-Intelligence Corps (CIC). He was also vice chairman of the
Jewish Central Committee in the US occupation zone of Austria. [26]

'Human Soap'
Wiesenthal has given circulation and credence to one of the most
scurrilous Holocaust stories, the charge that the Germans manufactured
soap from the corpses of murdered Jews. According to this tale, the
letters "RIF" in bars of German-made soap allegedly stood for "Pure
Jewish Fat" ("Rein judisches Fett"). In reality, the initials stood
for "National Center for Industrial Fat Provisioning" ("Reichstelle
fur industrielle Fettversorgung"). [27]

Wiesenthal promoted the "human soap" legend in articles published in
1946 in the Austrian Jewish community paper Der Neue Weg ("The New
Path"). In an article entitled "RIF," he wrote: "The terrible words
'transport for soap' were first heard at the end of 1942. It was in
the [Polish] General Government, and the factory was in Galicia, in
Belzec. From April 1942 until May 1943, 900,000 Jews were used as raw
material in this factory." After the corpses were turned into various
raw materials, Wiesenthal wrote, "The rest, the residual fat stuff,
was used for soap production."

He continued: "After 1942 people in the General Government knew quite
well what the RIF soap meant. The civilized world may not believe the
joy with which the Nazis and their women in the General Government
thought of this soap. In each piece of soap they saw a Jew who had
been magically put there, and had thus been prevented from growing
into a second Freud, Ehrlich or Einstein." [28]

In another imaginative article published in 1946 entitled "Belzec Soap
Factory," Wiesenthal alleged that masses of Jews were exterminated in
electrocution showers: [29]

The people, pressed together and driven on by the SS, Latvians and
Ukrainians, go through the open door into the "bath." Five hundred
persons could fit at a time. The floor of the "bath chamber" was made
of metal and shower heads hung from the ceiling. When the room was
full, the SS turned on the 5,000 volts of electric current in the
metal plate. At the same time water poured from the shower heads. A
short scream and the execution was over. An SS chief physician named
Schmidt determined through a peep hole that the victims were dead. The
second door was opened and the "corpse commando" came in and quickly
removed the dead. It was ready for the next 500.

Today no serious historian accepts the stories that Jewish corpses
were manufactured into bars of soap or that Jews were electrocuted to
death at Belzec (or anywhere).

Wiesenthal's imaginative view of history is not limited to the
twentieth century. In his 1973 book Sails of Hope, he argued that
Christopher Columbus was a secret Jew, and that his famous voyage to
the western hemisphere in 1492 was actually a search for a new
homeland for Europe's Jews. [30]

Wiesenthal is not always wrong, of course. In 1975 and again in 1993
he publicly acknowledged that "there were no extermination camps on
German soil." [31] He thus implicitly conceded that the claims made at
the postwar Nuremberg Tribunal and elsewhere that Buchenwald, Dachau
and other camps in Germany proper were "extermination camps" are not
true.

'Fabrications' About Eichmann
In more than 40 years of "Nazi hunting," Wiesenthal's role in locating
and capturing Adolf Eichmann is often considered his greatest
achievement. [32] (Eichmann headed the wartime SS Jewish affairs
department. He was kidnapped by Israeli agents in Argentina in May
1960 and hanged in Jerusalem after a trial that received worldwide
media attention.)

But Isser Harel, the Israeli official who headed the team that seized
Eichmann, has declared unequivocally that Wiesenthal had "absolutely
nothing" to do with the capture. (Harel is a former head of both the
Mossad and Shin Bet, Israel's foreign and domestic security agencies.)
[33]

Wiesenthal not only "had no role whatsoever" in the apprehension, said
Harel, but in fact he endangered the entire Eichmann operation. In a
278-page manuscript, Harel carefully refuted every claim by Wiesenthal
about his supposed role in identifying and capturing Eichmann. Claims
by Wiesenthal and his many friends about his supposedly crucial role
in capturing the former SS officer, said Harel, have no foundation in
fact. Many specific assertions and incidents described in two books by
Wiesenthal, said the Israeli official, are "complete fabrications."
[34]

"Wiesenthal's reports and statements at that period prove beyond any
doubt that he had no notion of Eichmann's whereabouts," said Harel.
[35] (For example, just before Eichmann's capture in Argentina,
Wiesenthal was placing him in Japan and Saudi Arabia.) [36]

Characterizing Wiesenthal as a rank opportunist, Harel summed up: "All
the information supplied by Wiesenthal before and in anticipation of
the [Eichmann] operation was utterly worthless, and sometimes even
misleading and of negative value." [37]

Reckless Charges in Walus Case
One of Wiesenthal's most spectacular cases involved a Polish-born
Chicago man named Frank Walus. In a letter dated December 10, 1974, he
charged that Walus "delivered Jews to the Gestapo" in Czestochowa and
Kielce in Poland during the war. This letter prompted a US government
investigation and legal action. [38] The Washington Post dealt with
the case in a 1981 article entitled "The Nazi Who Never Was: How a
witch hunt by judge, press and investigators branded an innocent man a
war criminal." The lengthy piece, which was copyrighted by the
American Bar Association, reported: [39]

In January 1977, the United States government accused a Chicagoan
named Frank Walus of having committed atrocities in Poland during
World War II.




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In the following years, this retired factory worker went into debt in
order to raise more than $60,000 to defend himself. He sat in a
courtroom while eleven Jewish survivors of the Nazi occupation of
Poland testified that they saw him murder children, an old woman, a
young woman, a hunchback and others ...

Overwhelming evidence shows that Walus was not a Nazi War criminal,
that he was not even in Poland during World War II.

... In an atmosphere of hatred and loathing verging on hysteria, the
government persecuted an innocent man. In 1974, Simon Wiesenthal, the
famous "Nazi hunter" of Vienna, denounced Walus as "a Pole in Chicago
who performed duties with the Gestapo in the ghettos of Czestochowa
and Kielce and handed over a number of Jews to the Gestapo."

The Chicago weekly newspaper Reader also reported on the case in a
detailed 1981 article headlined: "The Persecution of Frank Walus: To
Catch a Nazi: The U.S. government wanted a war criminal. So, with the
help of Simon Wiesenthal, the Israeli police, the local press and
Judge Julius Hoffman, they invented one." [40] The article stated:

... It is logical to assume that the "reports received by Wiesenthal
[against Walus] actually were rumors... In other words, Simon
Wiesenthal had no evidence against Walus. He denounced him anyway.

While [Judge] Hoffman had the Walus case under advisement, Holocaust
aired on television. During the same period, in April 1978, Simon
Wiesenthal came to Chicago, where he gave interviews taking credit for
the Walus case. "How Nazi-Hunter Helped Find Walus," was the Sun-Times
headline on a story by Bob Olmstead. Wiesenthal told Sun-Times Abe
Peck that he "has never had a case of mistaken identity." "I know
there are thousands of people who wait for my mistake," he said.

It was only after an exhausting legal battle that the man who was
vilified and physically attacked as "the butcher of Kielce" was
finally able to prove that he had spent the war years as a peaceful
farm laborer in Germany. Frank Walus died in August 1994, a broken and
bitterly disappointed man, man.

Wiesenthal's recklessness in the Walus case should have been enough to
permanently discredit him as a reliable investigator. But his Teflon
reputation survived even this.

Wrong about Mengele
Much of the Wiesenthal myth is based on his hunt for Joseph Mengele,
the wartime physician at Auschwitz known as the "Angel of Death." Time
and time again, Wiesenthal claimed to be close on Mengele's heels.
Wiesenthal reported that his informants had "seen" or "just missed"
the elusive physician in Peru, Chile, Brazil, Spain, Greece, and half
a dozen locations in Paraguay. [41]

One of the closest shaves came in the summer of 1960. Wiesenthal
reported that Mengele had been hiding out on a small Greek island,
>from where he escaped by just a few hours. Wiesenthal continued to
peddle this story, complete with precise details, even after a
reporter whom he had hired to check it out informed him that the tale
was false from beginning to end. [42]

According to another Wiesenthal report, Mengele arranged for the
murder in 1960 of one of his former victims, a woman he had supposedly
sterilized in Auschwitz. After spotting her, and her distinctive camp
tattoo, at a hotel in Argentina where he was staying, Mengele
allegedly arranged to have her killed because he feared that she would
expose him. It turned out that the woman was never in a concentration
camp, had no tattoo, had never met Mengele, and her death was a simple
mountaineering accident. [43]

Mengele regularly dined at the finest restaurants in Asuncion, the
Paraguayan capital, Wiesenthal said in 1977, and supposedly drove
around the city with a bevy of armed guards in his black Mercedes
Benz. [44]

Wiesenthal announced in 1985 that he was "100 percent sure" that
Mengele had been hiding out in Paraguay until at least June 1984, and
charged that the Mengele family in Germany knew exactly where. As it
turned out, Wiesenthal was completely wrong. It was later definitively
established that Mengele had died in 1979 in Brazil, where he had been
living for years in anonymous poverty. [45]

Israel's ambassador to Paraguay from 1968 to 1972, Benjamin (Benno)
Varon, remarked in 1983 on the Mengele campaign: "Wiesenthal makes
periodic statements that he is about to catch him, perhaps since
Wiesenthal must raise funds for his activities and the name Mengele is
always good for a plug." Wiesenthal "failed miserably" in the Mengele
case, the diplomat said on another occasion. [46] In the Mengele case,
former Mossad chief Harel remarked, "Wiesenthal's folly borders on the
criminal." [47]

In truth, the bulging Mengele file in Wiesenthal's Vienna
"Documentation Center" was such a jumble of useless information that,
in the words of the London Times, it "only sustained his
self-confirmatory myths and gave scant satisfaction to those who
apparently needed a definitive answer to Mengele's fate." [48]

In the considered view of Gerald Posner and John Ware, coauthors of
Mengele: The Complete Story, Wiesenthal spent years assiduously
cultivating a mythical "self-image of a tireless, dogged sleuth,
pitted against the omnipotent and sinister might of Mengele and a vast
Nazi network." Because of his "knack of playing to the gallery,"
Posner and Ware concluded, Wiesenthal "ultimately compromised his
credibility." [49]

'Incompetence and Arrogance'
Eli Rosenbaum, an official with the US government's "Nazi hunting"
Office of Special Investigations and an investigator for the World
Jewish Congress, took aim at Wiesenthal's carefully cultivated "Nazi
hunter" reputation in a detailed 1993 book, Betrayal. [50] For
example, Rosenbaum mentioned, Wiesenthal "had all these reports
placing Mengele in almost every country in Latin America except the
one he was in -- namely, Brazil." [51]

Wiesenthal, wrote Rosenbaum, has been a "pathetically ineffective"
investigator who had "gone far beyond the buffoonery and false boasts
in prior years." Much of his illustrious career, Rosenbaum said, has
been characterized by "incompetence and arrogance." [52]

Bruno Kreisky once summed up his attitude towards the "Nazi hunter" in
these words: [53]

The engineer Wiesenthal, or whatever else his title is, hates me
because he knows that I despise his activity. The Wiesenthal group is
a quasi-political Mafia that works against Austria with disgraceful
methods. Wiesenthal is known as someone who isn't very careful about
the truth, who is not very selective about his methods and who uses
tricks. He pretends to be the "Eichmann hunter," even though everyone
knows that this was the work of a secret service, and that Wiesenthal
only takes credit for that.

'Commercializing' the Holocaust
The Los Angeles Wiesenthal Center pays the Vienna "Nazi Hunter"
$75,000 a year for the use of his name, the director of Israel's Yad
Vashem Holocaust center said in 1988.

Both the Center and Wiesenthal "commercialize" and "trivialize" the
Holocaust, the director added.

Wiesenthal "threw out" the figure of "11 million who were murdered in
the Holocaust -- six million Jews and five million non-Jews," said the
Yad Vashem official. When asked why he gave these figures, Wiesenthal
replied: "The gentiles will not pay attention if we do not mention
their victims, too." Wiesenthal "chose 'five million (gentiles)'
because he wanted a 'diplomatic' number, one that told of a large
number of gentile victims but in no way was larger than that of Jews
..." [54]

"What Wiesenthal and the Los Angeles Center that bears his name do is
to trivialize the Holocaust," commented The Jewish Press, a weekly
that claims to be the largest-circulation English-language Jewish
community paper in America.

In recent years Wiesenthal has been concerned about the growing impact
of Holocaust revisionism. In "A Message from Simon Wiesenthal"
published by the Center that bears his name, he said: "Today, when I
see the rise of antisemitism here in Europe ... the popularity of Le
Pen, of David Duke, of the Holocaust revisionists, then I am convinced
more than ever about the need for our new [Wiesenthal Center] Beit
Hashoah-Museum of Tolerance" in Los Angeles. [55]

Wiesenthal is often asked why he does not forgive those who persecuted
Jews half a century ago. His stock answer is that although he has the
right to forgive for himself, he does not have the right to forgive on
behalf of others. [56] On the basis of this sophistical logic, though,
neither does he have the right to accuse and track down anyone in the
name of others. Wiesenthal has never confined his "hunt" to those who
victimized him personally.

'Driven by Hatred'
It is difficult to say just what drives this remarkable man. Is it a
craving for fame and praise? Or is he trying to live down a shameful
episode from his past?

Wiesenthal clearly enjoys the praise he receives. "He is a man of
considerable ego, proud of testimonials and honorary degrees," the Los
Angeles Times has reported. [57] Bruno Kreisky has given a simpler
explanation. He said that Wiesenthal is "driven by hatred." [58]

In light of his well-documented record of deceit, lies and
incompetence, the extravagant praise heaped upon this contemptible man
is a sorry reflection of the venal corruptibility and unprincipled
self-deception of our age.

Notes
Quoted in: M. Weber, "'Nazi Hunter' Caught Lying," The Spotlight
(Washington, DC), Oct. 26, 1981, p. 9.
Interrogation of S. Wiesenthal on May 27 and 28, 1948, conducted by
Curt Ponger of the Interrogation Branch of the Evidence Division of
the Office (U.S.) Chief of Counsel for War Crimes. Interrogation No.
2820. On file at the National Archives (Washington, DC), "Records of
the U.S. Nürnberg War Crimes Trials Interrogations, 1946-49," Record
Group 238, microfilm M-1019, roll 79, frames 460-469 and 470-476. Also
cited in: "New Documents Raise New Doubts About Simon Wiesenthal's War
Years," The Journal of Historical Review, Winter 1988-89 (Vol. 8, No.
4), pp. 489-503.
PCIRO (International Refugee Organization, Austria) "Application for
Assistance" filled out and signed by Wiesenthal. Dated Jan. 16,1949.
(This was a trial exhibit in the Walus court case. Photocopy in
author's possession.)
Simon Wiesenthal, The Murderers Among Us: The Simon Wiesenthal
Memoirs. Edited by Joseph Wechsberg. (New York: McGraw Hill, 1967)
Interrogation of S. Wiesenthal, May 27, 1948, pp. 1-2.
The Murderers Among Us, p. 27.
The Murderers Among Us, pp. 29-35. This account is not inconsistent
with his 1948 and 1949 statements; See also: Simon Wiesenthal, Justice
Not Vengeance (New York: Grove Weidenfeld: 1989), pp. 7-9.
Interrogation of May 27, 1948, p. 2. In a signed 1945 statement,
Wiesenthal wrote:
"... I escaped on October 18, 1943, from the Lemberg [Lvov] hard labor
camp where I was kept as a prisoner during my two years of labor at
the railroad works... and went into hiding until joining Jewish
partisans on November 21, 1943, who operated there. It was while
fighting in the partisan ranks against the Nazis that we managed to
collect and bury for safekeeping considerable amount of evidence...
When the partisans were dispersed by the Germans I fled to Lemberg on
February 10, 1944, and again went into hiding. On June 13, 1944, I was
found during a house to house search and was immediately sent to the
famous Lacki camp, near that city ..." Source: "Curriculum Vitae of
Ing. Wiesenthal, Szymon." SHAEF, Subject: War Crimes, July 6, 1945.
Records of USAEUR, War Crimes Branch, National Archives (Suitland,
Maryland), Records Group 338, Box 534, Folder 000-50-59. Wiesenthal's
alleged partisans activities are also recounted in Alan Levy, The
Wiesenthal File (Grand Rapids, Mich.: Eerdmans, 1994), pp. 50-53.
Interrogation of May 28, 1948, pp. 1-2.
Interrogation of May 28, 1948, p. 5.
The Murderers Among Us, pp. 35-37.
The Murderers Among Us, pp. 37-38; Interrogation, May 27, 1948, p. 2,
and May 28, 1948, p. 5; A. Levy, The Wiesenthal File (1994), p. 54.
The Murderers Among Us, pp. 39-44; Interrogation, May 27, 1948, pp.
2-3.
Interview with foreign journalists in Vienna, Nov. 10, 1975. Text
published in: "War Wiesenthal ein Gestapo-Kollaborateur?," Profil
(Vienna), No. 47, Nov. 18, 1975, pp. 16, 22-23; Reprinted in: Robert
H. Drechsler, Simon Wiesenthal: Dokumentation (Vienna: 1982), pp.
215-218, 222-223; Quoted in part in A. Levy, The Wiesenthal File
(1994), p. 349, and in, S. Wiesenthal, Justice Not Vengeance (New
York: 1989), pp. 7, 299. Kreisky was not alone in charging that
Wiesenthal had collaborated with the German Gestapo. Wim Van Leer,
columnist for the English-language daily Jerusalem Post, stated in May
1986 that a high-level police official in Vienna, citing confidential
police records, had told him during the early 1960s that these and
other charges against Wiesenthal were true. Source: J. Bushinsky,
"Nazi hunter sues over charges of links to Gestapo," Chicago
Sun-Times, Jan. 31, 1987.
Simon Wiesenthal, KZ Mauthausen (Linz and Vienna: Ibis-Verlag, 1946).
Facsimile reprint in: Robert H. Drechsler, Simon Wiesenthal:
Dokumentation (Vienna: 1982), p. 64.
"Firing Squad," Life magazine, US edition, June 11, 1945, p. 50.
M. Weber and K. Stimely, "The Sleight-of-Hand of Simon Wiesenthal,"
The Journal of Historical Review, Spring 1984 (Vol. 5, No. 1), pp.
120-122; D. National-Zeitung (Munich), May 21, 1993, p. 3.
S. Wiesenthal, KZ Mauthausen (1946). See also facsimile reprint in:
Robert H. Drechsler, Simon Wiesenthal: Dokumentation (Vienna: 1982),
pp. 42, 46. This "confession" is a somewhat altered version of
Nuremberg document NO-1973; A new edition of Wiesenthal's 1946 book
has been published under the title Denn sie Wussten, was sie tun:
Zeichnungen und Aufzeichnungen aus dem KZ Mauthausen (Vienna: F.
Deuticke, 1995). I am grateful to Robert Faurisson for bringing this
to my attention. He points out in a July 1995 essay that Wiesenthal
has deleted from this new edition both the "death bed confession" of
Ziereis as well as his drawing of the three Mauthausen inmates.
According to the Encyclopaedia Judaica ("Mauthausen,", Vol. 11, p.
1138), a grand total of 206,000 persons were inmates of Mauthausen and
its satellite camps (including Hartheim) at one time or another.
S. Wiesenthal, KZ Mauthausen (1946). Facsimile reprint in: R.
Drechsler, Simon Wiesenthal: Dokumentation, p. 47.
R. Faurisson, "The Gas Chambers: Truth or Lie?," The Journal of
Historical Review, Winter 1981, pp. 330, 361. See also: Hans
Fritzsche, The Sword in the Scales (London: 1953), p. 185; Gerald
Reitlinger, The Final Solution (London: Sphere, pb., 1971), p. 515; M.
Weber, "The Nuremberg Trials and the Holocaust," The Journal of
Historical Review, Summer 1992 (Vol. 12, No. 2), p. 182.
USA Today, April 21, 1983, p. 9A.
The Murderers Among Us, p. 44.
Evelyn Le Chene, Mauthausen: The History of a Death Camp (London:
1971), pp. 166-168 and 190-191.
"Mauthausen", Encyclopaedia Judaica (New York and Jerusalem: 1971),
vol. 11, p. 1138.
C. Moritz, ed., Current Biography 1975 (New York: H.W. Wilson, 1975),
p. 442; Wiesenthal interrogation of May 27, 1948, p. 3.
Mark Weber, "Jewish Soap," The Journal of Historical Review, Summer
1991 (Vol. 11, No. 2), pp. 217-227; See also: Robert Faurisson, "La
savon juif," Annales d'Histoire Revisionniste (Paris), No. 1,
Printemps 1987, pp. 153-159.
Der Neue Weg (Vienna), No. 17/18, 1946, pp. 4-5. Article entitled
"RIF" by "Ing. Wiesenth." (Simon Wiesenthal).
Der Neue Weg (Vienna), Nr. 19/20, 1946, pp. 14-15. Article entitled
"Seifenfabrik Belsetz" ("Belzec Soap Factory"), by "Ing. S.Wiesenth."
S. Wiesenthal, Sails of Hope (Macmillan, 1973).
Letters by Wiesenthal in Books and Bookmen (London), April 1975, p. 5,
and in Stars and Stripes (European edition), Jan. 24, 1993, p. 14.
Facsimile of Stars and Stripes letter in The Journal of Historical
Review, May-June 1993, p. 10; In 1986 Wiesenthal lied about his 1975
statement. In a letter dated May 12, 1986, to Prof. John George of
Central State University in Edmond, Oklahoma (copy in author's
possession), Wiesenthal wrote: "I have never stated that 'there were
no extermination camps on German soil.' This quote is false, I could
never have said such a thing."
For example, in a letter (dated Sept. 13, 1993), published in The New
York Times, Sept. 29, 1993, Wiesenthal boasted: "I succeeded in
putting a number of Nazis on trial who had perpetrated horrendous
crimes in the Nazi era, including Adolf Eichmann, Franz Stangl, Gustav
Wagner,..."
S. Birnbaum, "Wiesenthal's Claim on Eichmann Disputed by Former Mossad
Head," Jewish Telegraphic Agency Daily News Bulletin (New York), April
4, 1989. (Dispatch dated April 3).
J. Schachter, "Wiesenthal had no role in Eichmann capture," The
Jerusalem Post, May 18, 1991. Facsimile reprint in Christian News, May
27, 1991, p. 19. See also: Ruth Sinai, "Wiesenthal's role in
Eichmann's capture disputed," Associated Press, The Orange County
Register, Feb. 25, 1990, p. A 26; L. Lagnado, "How Simon Wiesenthal
Helped a Secret Nazi," Forward (New York), Sept. 24, 1993, pp. 1, 3.
J. Schachter, The Jerusalem Post, May 18, 1991 (cited above).
Facsimile in Christian News, May 27, 1991, p. 19.
Arnold Forster, Square One (New York: 1988), pp. 187-189. (Forster was
general counsel of the Anti-Defamation League, a major Zionist
organization.)
J. Goldberg, "Top Spy Says Wiesenthal Lied About His Exploits,"
Forward (New York), Nov. 12, 1993, pp. 1, 4; R. Sinai, "Wiesenthal's
role...," The Orange County Register, Feb. 25, 1990 (cited above).
Michael Arndt, "The Wrong Man," The Chicago Tribune Magazine, Dec. 2,
1984, pp. 15-35, esp. p. 23; Charles Ashman and Robert J. Wagman, The
Nazi Hunters (New York: Pharos Books, 1988), pp. 193-195.
"The Nazi Who Never Was," The Washington Post, May 10, 1981, pp. B5,
B8.
"The Persecution of Frank Walus," Reader (Chicago), Jan. 23, 1981, pp.
19, 30. After Wiesenthal was ultimately proven wrong in a similar case
in Canada, the Toronto Sun newspaper commented in an editorial: "It
seems that material provided by professional Nazi hunter Simon
Wiesenthal is wrong, but repeated anyway [in the media]." (Quoted by
M. Weber in The Journal of Historical Review, Spring 1984, pp.
120-122.)
Gerald L. Posner and John Ware, Mengele: The Complete Story (New York:
Dell, 1987), pp. 220-221; Gerald Astor, The 'Last' Nazi: The Life and
Times of Dr. Joseph Mengele (Toronto: Paperjacks, 1986), p. 202.
G. Posner and J. Ware, Mengele: The Complete Story (cited above), p.
220.
G. Posner and J. Ware, Mengele (cited above), pp. 179-180; G. Astor,
The 'Last' Nazi (cited above), pp. 178-180.
Time magazine, Sept. 26, 1977, pp. 36-38. Cited in: G. Posner and J.
Ware, Mengele (cited above), p. 219.
"Hunting the 'Angel of Death'," Newsweek, May 20, 1985, pp. 36-38. See
also: M. Weber, "Lessons of the Mengele Affair," Journal of Historical
Review, Fall 1985 (Vol. 6, No. 3), p. 382. On Wiesenthal's distortion
of truth in the Mermelstein-IHR case, see: M. Weber, "Declaration,"
Journal of Historical Review, Spring 1982 (Vol. 3, No. 1), pp. 42-43;
M. Weber, "Albert Speer and the 'Holocaust,"' Journal of Historical
Review, Winter 1984 (Vol. 5, Nos. 2-4), p. 439.
Midstream, Dec. 1983, p. 24. Quoted in: G. Posner and J. Ware, Mengele
(cited above), p. 219; Los Angeles Times, Nov. 15, 1985, p. 2.
J. Schachter, "Wiesenthal had no role in Eichmann capture," The
Jerusalem Post, May 18, 1991. Facsimile reprint in Christian News, May
27, 1991, p. 19.
Tom Bower in The Times (London), June 14, 1985, p. 14. Quoted in: G.
Posner and J. Ware, Mengele (cited above), pp. 222-223.
G. Posner and J. Ware, Mengele (cited above), pp. 222-223.
Betrayal, by Eli M. Rosenbaum, with William Hoffer. Published in 1993
by St. Martin's Press (New York). Reviewed by Jacob Heilbrunn in The
New York Times Book Review, Oct. 10, 1993, p. 9.
Quoted in L. Lagnado, "How Simon Wiesenthal...," Forward (New York),
Sept. 24, 1993, p. 3.
The New York Times Book Review, Oct. 10, 1993, p. 9; Forward (New
York), Sept. 24, 1993, p. 3.
"Was hat Wiesenthal zu verbergen?," D. National-Zeitung (Munich), Nov.
11, 1988, p. 4.
David Sinai, "News We Doubt You've Seen," The Jewish Press (Brooklyn,
NY), Dec. 23, 1988. Based on report in the Israeli newspaper Ha'aretz,
Dec. 16, 1988.
"A Message from Simon Wiesenthal," Response: The Wiesenthal Center
World Report, Winter 1992, p. 11.
Charles Ashman and Robert J. Wagman, The Nazi Hunters (New York:
Pharos Books, 1988), p. 286; A. Popkin, "Nazi-Hunter Simon Wiesenthal:
'Information is Our Best Defense'," Washington Jewish Week, Oct. 29,
1987, p. 2.
Quoted in: M. Weber, The Spotlight, Oct. 26, 1981, p. 9.
Quoted in D. National-Zeitung (Munich), July 8, 1988, p. 7, and in, R.
Drechsler, Simon Wiesenthal: Dokumentation (Vienna: 1982), p. 199.
#2009
 From The Journal of Historical Review, July-August 1995 (Vol. 15, No.
4), pages 8-16. This is a revised and updated version of an article
that first appeared in the Winter 1989-90 issue of The Journal of
Historical Review.
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About the author
Mark Weber is director of the Institute for Historical Review. He
studied history at the University of Illinois (Chicago), the
University of Munich, Portland State University and Indiana University
(M.A., 1977). For nine years he served as editor of the IHR's Journal
of Historical Review.
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"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.


Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late
nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
work:(780)492-0473

And also: George Firestone: "George" ,
and davejoll@ihug.co.nz.

Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
for many years around the world.




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Poland and Latvia are to be commended, for their stand for traditional family
values.

They deserve praise for resisting the demands of the perverts and sub-humans,
trying to destroy traditional families.

Other countries believing in traditional Christianity, true judaism, or even
Islam, should all do as honest Poland and Latvia do - restrict the rights of
the disgusting perverts and AIDS-spreaders!!


On 19 Nov 2006 13:56:22 -0800, "Sound of Trumpet" 
wrote:

>http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1739775/posts

>Poland & Latvia must address LGBT issues

>GayNZ ^ | November 16, 2006

>Posted on 11/16/2006 10:41:46 AM PST by lizol

>Poland & Latvia must address LGBT issues

>Amnesty International is getting tough with new European Union
>countries over gay rights issues.

>"If the European Union wants 2007 to be "European Year of Equal
>Opportunities", it needs to ensure as of now that lesbian, gay,
>bisexual and transgender (LGBT) people can freely express, assemble and
>associate in countries such as Poland and Latvia", says Amnesty
>International.

>Amnesty International is concerned that despite public attention to a
>string of homophobic incidents - in some cases actions and statements
>by the very authorities of these countries - little has been done to
>redress the situation and guarantee the basic rights of LGBT persons.
>
>In Poland, the person who replaced the director for the national
>teaching agency - dismissed for accepting a standard Council of
>Europe manual on anti-discrimination - has recently declared that
>homosexuality is contrary to human nature. These examples contradict
>the assurances presented by the Polish President during his visit to
>Brussels in August.
>
>In Latvia, authorities have also failed to provide credible guarantees
>that homophobic incidents will not be tolerated. This summer's
>refusal to grant permission for the Riga Pride 2006 march on account
>that police could not assure the security of the participants is a
>worrying signal that authorities are not living up to their
>obligations.
>
>Also worrying was the two-hour delay of significant police presence at
>the hotel where participants of a conference on LGBT rights were being
>attacked by protesters.
>
>Amnesty International has asked the EU to support the right of freedom
>of assembly, including "Pride Marches" and similar events in all Member
>States; take concrete steps to monitor the implementation of EU
>standards against discrimination in Member States; and ensure that
>police cooperation in Europe includes training of law enforcement
>officials on how to address homophobic violence.



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On 17 Nov 2006 13:38:56 -0800, "Mirelle" ,  in wrote:

>'The amount of money that the non-Jewish consumer has paid the food
>companies to make up for the hidden Jewish Tax is unknown, but it is
>estimated to be in the billions since the scam first started. The
>Orthodox Jewish Councils as well as the food companies keep the amount
>of the fees very secret."
>
>"It is estimated that the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations, which
>manages the (U) symbol protection racket, controls about 85% of the
>"Kosher Nostra " certification business. They now employ about 1200
>Rabbi agents that are spread through out the U.S. Food companies must
>first pay an exorbitant application fee and than a large annual fee for
>the use of the (U) copyright symbol. Secondly, the companies must pay
>separate fees each time a team of Rabbis shows up to "inspect" the
>company's operations. Certain food companies are required to hire
>Rabbis full time at very lucrative salaries."
>
>The "Kosher Nostra Scam" on the American Consumer
>Los Angeles, Alta California - 4/27/2002 - (ACN) La Voz de Aztlan
>receives quite a few "news tips" per week from our many subscribers and
>readers. Some we dismiss immediately but a very few catch our
>attention. Last week we receive an e-mail asking us if we knew the
>significance of the small encircled letter "U" or letter "K" that can
>be found printed on many food cans, food packages and on other kitchen
>products. The message gave us some clues and suggested that we do some
>research into the subject. What we found certainly was "news" to us and
>it both shocked and angered us.
>
>On arriving at my residence, I immediately went to the pantry to verify
>that what I had just learned was actually true. Sure enough, most of
>the packaged and canned foods from major companies, like Proctor &
>Gamble and others, did have the (U), the (K) or other similar markings.
>The Arrowhead water bottle, the instant Folgers Coffee, the Kelloggs
>box, the Jiff Peanut Butter, the Pepper container, the Trader Joe's tea
>box and even the Glads plastic sandwich bags carton had the (U) or (K)
>mark on them.
>
>We needed a little more verification so we called two major companies
>to asked some questions. We chose Proctor & Gamble that markets the
>Folgers Coffee and the Clorox Company that manufactures the Glads
>plastic zip lock sandwich bags. Each of the two companies, as well as
>most others, have 1-800 telephone numbers printed on their packages for
>consumers to call in case they have any questions about their products.
>When we asked the Proctor & Gamble representative what the (U) meant on
>their Folgers Coffee container, she asked us to wait until she
>consulted with her supervisor. She came back and informed us that the
>mark meant that the coffee was " certified kosher". We than asked her
>how and who certified the coffee to be "kosher" and whether it cost any
>money to do so. She refused to answer these and other questions. She
>suggested that we write to their Corporate Public Affairs Department.
>We than called the Clorox Corporation to ask what the (U) meant on the
>package of their Glads plastic sandwich bags and she also said that the
>(U) meant that the plastic bags were "kosher" but refused to answer
>questions concerning payments the Clorox Corporation has to make in
>order to be able to print the (U) on their products.
>
>What we learned next, pretty much floored me personally. I learned that
>major food companies throughout America actually pay a Jewish Tax
>amounting to hundreds of million of dollars per year in order to
>receive protection. This hidden tax gets passed, of course, to all
>non-Jewish consumers of the products. The scam is to coerce the
>companies to pay up or suffer the consequences of a Jewish boycott.
>Jewish consumers have learned not to buy any kitchen product that does
>not have the (U) the (K) and other similar markings.
>
>Another shocker was learning who is actually behind these sophisticated
>"Kosher Nostra Scams." It turns out that the perpetrators of these
>elaborate extortion schemes are actually Rabbinical Councils that are
>set up, not just in the U.S. but in other western countries as well.
>For example, the largest payola operation in the U.S. is run by those
>who license the (U) symbol. The (U) symbol provides protection for many
>products sold here in Aztlan and in the United States. This symbol is
>managed by the The Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations with
>headquarters at 333 Seventh Avenue in New York City.
>
>The scam works like a well oiled machine and is now generating vast
>amounts of funds, some of which are being utilized by the Union of
>Orthodox Rabbis to support the Ariel Sharon Zionist government in
>Israel. The website of the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations is
>full of pro-Israel and anti-Palestinian propaganda.
>
>The "Kosher Nostra" protection racket starts when an Orthodox Rabbi
>approaches a company to warn the owners that unless their product is
>certified as kosher, or "fit for a Jew to eat", they will face a
>boycott by every Jew in America. Most, if not all of the food
>companies, succumb to the blackmail because of fear of the Jewish
>dominated media and a boycott that may eventually culminate in
>bankruptcy. Also, the food companies know that the cost can be passed
>on to the consumer anyway. The food companies have kept secret from the
>general consumer the meaning of the (U) and the amount of money they
>have to pay the Jewish Rabbis.
>
>It is estimated that the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations, which
>manages the (U) symbol protection racket, controls about 85% of the
>"Kosher Nostra " certification business. They now employ about 1200
>Rabbi agents that are spread through out the U.S. Food companies must
>first pay an exorbitant application fee and than a large annual fee for
>the use of the (U) copyright symbol. Secondly, the companies must pay
>separate fees each time a team of Rabbis shows up to "inspect" the
>company's operations. Certain food companies are required to hire
>Rabbis full time at very lucrative salaries.
>
>The amount of money that the non-Jewish consumer has paid the food
>companies to make up for the hidden Jewish Tax is unknown, but it is
>estimated to be in the billions since the scam first started. The
>Orthodox Jewish Councils as well as the food companies keep the amount
>of the fees very secret. The Jewish owned Wall Street Journal wrote
>about the problem many years ago, but they have stopped writing about
>it now.
>
>Only public awareness concerning the "Kosher Nostra Scam" will
>eventually help stop this swindle of the American consumer. Public
>education of the scam may lead to an eventual non-Jewish boycott of all
>products with the (U), (K) or other Jewish protection symbols. I
>certainly do not need to pay extra for "kosher water", "kosher coffee"
>or "kosher plastic sandwich bags". In fact, I demand my money back for
>all I had to pay over the years for the hidden and illegal Jewish Tax.
>Are there any bright attorneys out there that could bring a class
>action suit against the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations on
>behalf of the citizens of Aztlan and other non-Jewish people?
>
>"The Petition to End Kosher Certification Labels and to End the
>Involvement of the Federal Food & Drug Admistration's Participation"

>CLICK ON TO THE FOLLOWING LINK FROM THE LINK BELOW TO GET TO THIS
>ARTICLE.
>"Related La Voz de Aztlan article:
>The "Kosher Nostra Scam" on the American Consumer"----CLICK

>http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.aztlan.net/metzitzah_b_peh.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.aztlan.net/
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>Mirelle

On 24 Sep 2006 15:25:56 -0000, in soc.culture.usa FrankFarber  wrote:

To view the video on the KOSHER TAX, go to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDPdDv7cEZo

From: tyler 
Newsgroups: bc.general,calgary.general,soc.culture.jewish,
alt.revisionism,alt.conspiracy
Subject: Mr. Durden Wins the Match! Knockout of McVay!
Even Israelites Agree!
Message-ID: 

Mr. Durden Wins the Match! Knockout of McVay and his jackals!

Here are all the important points that prove McVay has been
lying all along. Lying through his zionist teeth.

1)	US businesses are complaining about kosher tax
       http://www.ustr.gov/reports/nte/1998/israel.pdf

2)	Jewish businesses are complaining about kosher tax
http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2000/01/11/News/News.1181.html

3)	Jewish businesses complain about Rabbinical power:
http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2000/01/11/News/News.1181.html

4)	Rabbinical firms are taking huge amounts out of the pockets of
the consumer for a religious tax that serves only a religious
minority. Circle K alone takes in over 20 million dollars per year.
The estimates do not include the cost that the manufacturer incurs in
equipment changes that are also passed to the consumer.

            Kosher Cooking: Keeping kosher is a big business
      By Peter Sinton / San Francisco Chronicle   April 2001

5) Muslims are not crazy about Kosher Foods:
         http://64.41.98.55/DoMuslimsKnowMay2001.shtml

6) Whenever anyone complains about the rabbinical or kosher tax McVay
and his jackals label them as anti-semitic, immediately! Well are
these Jewish businessmen and lawmakers in Israel also anti-semitic?
      http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2000/01/11/News/News.1181.html

It is clear that the intimidation, name calling and labeling that
McVay and his followers levy against any discussion of this matter is
also leveled at honest American and Canadian businesses. McVay's
behaviour is but an example of the verbal abuse that Zionists and the
rabbinical organizations use to extort money and compliance with
kosher certification.

Using reasoning and deductive logic one can clearly conclude that the
kosher tax is a drain on the gentile purse. It is not FOR the gentile
and it costs many millions and not a trivial amount. Even Jews in
Israel complain! Why in the world don't Americans and Canadians?

The Rabbinical Organizations are economic vampires. They drain money
>from the poorest Canadian and American for food they desparately need
and support a religious minority that practices barbaric acts on
animals. These acts, such as slitting throats of living creatures and
bleeding them to death, have been banned in progressive Sweden.

It's time we found out the truth! It's hard because of the secretive
nature of the Rabbinical organizations, but it can be rooted out!

Yours truly, in triumph,
tyler


Kenneth McVay,SOBC, convicted of child molesting
and car theft in California and Oregon, the
well-known fag in Canada,Fag McVay of Vancouver,
also a convicted car thief and all round molester,
and still unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of
the Canadian branch of NAMBLA, wants all to know
about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
Here is the latest.......

From: tyler 
Newsgroups: edm.general
Subject: The Council of Orthodox Rabbis: Kosher Tax on Canadians?
Message-ID: 
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 05:05:45 GMT

The Council of Orthodox Rabbis: Kosher Tax on Canadians?

The Council of Orthodox Rabbis or COR is a certification for
kosher foods. Part of every dollar on an item that you purchase
that has the abreviation COR followed by a number goes to the
council of orthodox rabbis, a religious organization. As a
consumer you should be aware that some products that you are
purchasing cost more because of this certification.

The COR certification is now on foods and items that according
to Jewish law do not have to be certified. Salt is one of these
yet you will find COR 69 on Sifto salt and COR 92 on Windsor salt. Ketchup
also
does not need certification yet there is a COR 10 on
Heinz ketchup. You will also find COR certification on such absurd
items as Javex Bleach.Can anyone please inform me that as a result
of rabbinical supervision, Javex Bleach has become purer or more hygienic or
more effectiveI  Or ketchup? Or salt? Is it the amount
of iodine in the salt that the rabbis have to approve or what? I
thought this was done by nutritionists? Do the rabbis visit and
inspect every salt mine and tomato patch?

What the hell gives here? Why am I as a non-denominational Canadian
consumer being forced to pay a religious group for their certification
not only on a product that doesn't need it according to their own laws
but on any product whatsoever? Why is a religious minority scamming
money off of millions of Canadians on essential products such as salt
that doesn't even need kosher certification? Is this not religious
fraud? Certification for products that don't need it?

Write to:
Reuben Mark, Chairman & CEO
Colgate-Palmolive
300 Pak Avenue
New York, NY
USA      10022

and ask for a non kosher javex bleach product as you shouldn't have
to pay for COR certification. Unbelievable that this is being done.

Write to:
Guy L. Leblanc
Vice President, Production & Administration
The Canadian Salt Company, Ltd.
7th Floor
755 Boulevard St. Jean
Pointe Claire, Quebec  H9R 5M9

and ask for non kosher table salt. It should be cheaper. Ask him
specifically, how has Windsor Salt production been modified so as
to comply with Jewish religious laws?  How frequent is rabbinical
inspection of Windsor Salt plants, and of what does this inspection
consist?  Is there anyone who will claim that Windsor Table Salt is
in any detectable way different following kosher certification from
what it was before?

As a matter of fact ask these guys:
Do you have information on how Council of Orthodox Rabbis
kosher-certification earnings are distributed, as for example what
proportion of them goes toward supporting the ethnic cleansing of
Palestinians by the State of Israel, or what proportion goes toward
the expansion of Israel's nuclear arsenal, etc.etc In other words,do
the proceeds go to political as well as religious agendas that have
nothing to do with Canada?

Where is W5  on this matter? Are there any newsreporters that can
explain this? Maybe the Protestants and Catholics will catch on and
start making their own certification organization. I can see it now,
GFJ, good for jesus certification...

Wow, god is such good business...

tyler


On 2 Jan 2002 09:40:35 -0800,
in edm.general
his_shadow@my-deja.com (His Divine Shadow) used both functioning neurons to
say:
>kmcvay@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote in message
news:...
>> ADL Special Edition, January 1991
>> A periodic update from the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith
>> Civil Rights Division

>> "The Kosher Food Tax is the biggest consumer fraud existing in
>> America."

>> The bizarre claim by right wing extremists that kosher certification
>> markings on food labels ("U," "K," etc.) cost consumers extra money
>> and represent, in effect, a "kosher tax" to make rabbis rich, is a
>> striking example of the propaganda used by anti-Semites to trick the
>> uninformed into accepting conspiracy charges and stereotypes about
>> Jews.

>Thanks for the info, Kenneth.

Ken's information is all well and good but it still doesn't address all
of the issues raised in the appended post,  which probably was the
reason why he was moved to comment on the subject in the first place.

All and all, I don't suppose it is any worse than anything perpetuated
by the tradition of 'Royal Warrants' (http://www.royalwarrant.org/)
but I personally find the traditional rant and spin attached to everything
Ken puts out as some neo-nazi neo-conservative conspirarcy to be
getting a bit thin, and tiresome. A simple explaination of fact would
have sufficed.

It's a continual appeal to developing a mindset that says if you aren't
a friend then you are any enemy. It's bullshit. I dare say there are
probably proportionately just as many Jews that are political right
wing extremeists as any other religion, including Baptists.

No one has to be a neo-nazi to object to any spcial concession to a
religious organization thing that increases the cost all consumers must
bear, even if it adds only $0.0005 to the cost of an individual item.

A few years back many people got their undies in a twist when it
was revealed that Rev. Sun Myung Moon was involved in many
well known companies, and boycotted it's products.

AFAIC it doesn't matter if a religion is termed a cult, there is no
reason to attribute arcane motivations to anything that helps people
to appreciate the complexity of the world we live in.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org


Ken McVay invites callers to his homosexuals escorts office:
1-250-616-9431
Or, VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?

http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg


Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
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HOLODOMOR
The Forgiven Holocaust of 1932-33

1932 1933 YEARS OF ARTIFICIAL FAMINE IN UKRAINE CREATED 
BY THE MUSCOVITE OCCUPIERS
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PICTURE: http://www.ukar.org/famine01.gif
(Oksana Procyk, Leonid Heretz, and James E. Mace, Famine in the Soviet Ukraine
1932-1933: A Memorial Exhibition, Widener Library Harvard University, Harvard
University Press, Cambridge Massachusetts, 1986, p. 71)

In selecting documents for inclusion in the Famine Archive, I have adhered to
the general Ukrainian Archive policy of allowing room for opposing points of
view.  In order for an accurate picture of the Famine to emerge, it is
essential that opposing arguments be recognized and either confirmed or
disconfirmed; and if, upon occasion, descriptions of the Ukrainian famine have
been inaccurate,
then having this pointed out by critics constitutes a valuable contribution
toward arriving at a true account.

To fear and to inhibit opposing arguments, or the correction of errors, might
seem necessary only to those who worry that the Ukrainian Terror Famine has
never occurred, or who fear that permitting corrections will cast the entire
story into doubt.  But such worries and fears are groundless.  Errors,
contradictions, exaggerations — all of these enter in to cloud our perception
of every historical event, and to expect otherwise with respect to the
Ukrainian Terror Famine would be unrealistic.

Therefore, where criticism of certain Famine accounts is warranted, the
criticism must be greeted as providing a useful guide as to how to improve the
quality of future accounts.  Where any inaccuracies have been introduced by
the press, then this might be taken as an indication that the press needs to
be both monitored and educated.  Where inaccuracies have been introduced by
writers contracted primarily because of their fame, then this might be taken
as a
warning that buying fame is not the same as buying historical fidelity.

Finally, in the case where facts are simply created out of thin air by Soviet
or Russian representatives, then a sampling of even this too is not
inappropriate — or else the reader would be left with no awareness that any
dispute is possible, and so would go out into the world less prepared for the
disinformation that he is certain to meet there.

http://www.ukar.org/famine06.htm
Collectivization and the famine
BY BOHDAN KRAWCHENKO
UKRAINE FAMINE 1933
Special Edition issued by the
Ukrainian Canadian Committee
Edmonton Branch
October 14, 1983

In 1932 and 1933 millions of people in Ukraine died of hunger.  Unlike most
famines, the one in Ukraine was not caused by some natural calamity or crop
failure, but was man-made.

The 1920s — "Golden Era"

     The peasantry — about 80 per cent of Ukraine's population — had fought
pitched battles against landlords during the 1917 revolution to realize its
age-old dream of owning land.

     When in 1918-19 the Bolsheviks occupied Ukraine and made their first bid
to collectivize peasant land, the Ukrainian peasants resisted so fiercely that
Lenin ordered "severe punishment" for any Bolshevik who preached
collectivization.  During the 1920s, peasants organized voluntary cooperatives
and agriculture thrived.

     In this period the Ukrainian people forced the Bolsheviks to change their
nationality policy.  The Ukrainian language displaced Russian in education,
state administration and the mass media.

     Ukrainians were recruited into the party and government.  Within the
Communist Party of Ukraine there developed a powerful Ukrainian wing which
demanded an end to Russian domination in economic and political life.

     Stalin's policies in 1929 brought the "golden era" to an end

Collectivization
     In 1928 Stalin suddenly announced accelerated industrialization in the
form of the first five-year plan.  The plan was hastily put together and, as a
result, billions of rubles were wasted.

     By 1930 it became clear that Stalin's government was running out of
funds.
Rather than rethink economic strategies, Stalin ordered more grain to be
squeezed out of the peasantry.

     The quickest method of accomplishing this, according to Stalin, was to
establish collective farms by expropriating all peasant land, grain reserves
and livestock without compensation.  Also, collective farms would have to turn
over all their produce to the state.

     Interestingly enough, when the Nazis occupied Ukraine, they did not
abolish collective farms: they appreciated this finely tuned instrument for
the exploitation of the peasantry.

     In Ukraine, collectivization had another aim: to "destroy the social
basis of Ukrainian nationalism — individual peasant agriculture," according to
the Soviet newspaper Proletarska Pravda, (22.1.1930).

     It was in 1930 as well that Stalin ordered the first of a series of
purges of Ukrainian cultural and political figures — all part and parcel of a
program to roll back the achievements of the national revival of the 1920s.

The campaign against kulaks
     An essential component of forced collectivization, according to Stalin,
was the "elimination of kulaks as a class."

     The word kulak conjures up an image of a wealthy, grasping peasant.  The
reality had little in common with the myth.

     In the 1920s there were laws banning the sale and purchase of land and of
its rent.  Land was distributed on the basis of the size of the peasant
family.
Some peasant households did, of course, own more land than others.  But these
households also had larger families to support.

     Compare the richest kulak in Ukraine with an industrial worker.  In the
mid-1920s the average annual income per working peasant in the richest peasant
farm in Ukraine (comprising about 30 acres) was 200 rubles.  The average
worker, by contrast, made 521 rubles a year and received many social-security
benefits which were not available to the peasantry.

     When the campaign against kulaks began, the Soviet regime was at a loss
for a definition of the term and produced an arbitrary set of criteria.  For
example, a household owning a motor of any kind was classified as belonging to
the kulak category.

     Neither were kulaks those who hired labor.  As the Russian demographer M.
Maksudov has shown, the majority of those employing labor in the countryside
were invalids of the First World War and the revolution, widows and families
with few children.

     The campaign against kulaks, therefore, had little to do with economic
considerations.  "Dekulakization" was intended to rid the countryside of
peasants (irrespective of their material standing) who were most likely to
organize and lead resistance to forced collectivization.

     According to official Soviet surveys, Ukraine had 71,500 kulak households
in 1929.  But according to official Soviet sources, between 1930 and 1932,
200,000 kulak households or one million people were "eliminated."  The plan
for the destruction of kulaks was overfulfilled by almost 200 per cent.

The deportations
     Those who resisted collectivization were either executed or sent to
prison camps and their families were deported to Siberia or the Russian Arctic
circle.
Peasant activists were deported with their families to the northern regions of
Russian.

     Here is what some eyewitnesses wrote about their experiences: "Barefooted
and poorly clad peasants were jammed into railroad cars and transported to the
regions of Murmansk and the like.  Peasants were unloaded into snow about two
metres deep.  The frost stood at 75 degrees below zero.  Without even an axe
or a saw we began building huts from tree branches.  In two weeks all the
children, the sick and the elderly had frozen to death."

     The death rate among Ukrainian peasants deported to the Sverdlovsk region
in Russia was typical: only 2,300 of the original group of 4,800 survived the
winter.

     The suffering during the deportations was terrible enough, yet it pales
in comparison with what happened during the famine of 1932-33.

Grain requisition campaigns
     By the spring of 1930 peasant resistance to collectivization had reached
such proportions that Stalin panicked and ordered a temporary retreat.  In an
article entitled "Dizzy with Success," he admitted that excesses had occurred
and falsely pinned the entire blame on local officials.  Moreover, he
reassured the peasants that membership in collective farms henceforth would be
"voluntary."

     In the spring of 1930 there occurred a mass exodus of peasants from
collective farms.  Thinking that Stalin's regime had learned its lesson,
peasants worked with a will and brought in an excellent harvest — 23.1 million
(metric) tons of grain.

     But in the autumn of 1930 Stalin again changed course.  He ordered the
drive for collectivization to be resumed and the maximum amount of grain to be
taken out of Ukraine.  A third of the harvest, or 7.7 million tons of grain,
was taken by the state.

     The renewed collectivization drive produced chaos in agricultural
production.  The peasantry was given no incentive to produce.  By the end of
1930, for example, 78 per cent of collective farms in Ukraine had failed to
pay peasants for the days that they had worked.  Ironically, peasants' payment
in Ukraine (in kilos of food produce) was half what it was in Russia.
Reassured by his success of 1930, Stalin ordered the 1931 quota for grain
delivery to the state to be set at the same level — 7.7 million tons.

     The 1931 harvest, however — 18.3 million tons of grain — was 20 per cent
smaller than in 1930.  Almost 30 per cent of the harvest was lost because of
the breakdown of the transportation system.

     Intent on exporting grain to finance industrialization, Stalin ordered
that it be requisitioned whatever the cost to the peasantry.

     By the early spring of 1932, 7 million tons had been taken.  The amount
was so great that the republic was short of seed grain by 45 per cent.

     Ukrainian officials knew that if the rate of grain requisitioning
continued, famine would break out.  They argued with Moscow for a major
downward revision of Ukraine's agricultural obligations for 1932.

     M. Skrypnyk, Commissar of Education, in July 1932 recounted how, while
touring the Ukrainian countryside, he had heard from peasants that "we had
everything taken away from us but the broom."  V. Chubar, head of the
Ukrainian government, insisted that neither the peasants nor his
administration were at fault for the agricultural crisis, but that it was due
to the unrealistic plans of Moscow.

     Stalin did lower the amount of grain to be requisitioned in 1932 to 6.2
million tons, but this was still far above the capacities of the Ukraine in
view of that year's poor harvest — 14.6 tons.

     Neither did Stalin relax the collectivization drive and, as a result,
agriculture was plagued by chaos.  Millions of tons of grain were lost.

Tightening the noose
     Moscow sent a special mission, accompanied by troops, to oversee the 1932
grain requisition.

     Collective farms stopped distributing food to peasants.  For example,
according to official statistics, only five per cent of collective farms in
Dnipropetrovsk province handed out food produce for days worked in 1932.

     To prevent peasants from feeding themselves by taking collective farm
produce, a law was passed in August 1932 stipulating the death penalty, and
under exceptional circumstances, a ten-year sentence in labor camps for "theft
of socialist property."  Thus, it was reported in the Soviet press (Visti,
10.11.1932) that the Dnipropetrovsk court had sentenced a group of hungry
peasants to the firing squad for the theft of a sack of wheat.

     An obligatory delivery system was established for each collective farm.
The harvest was organized in the form of a military operation, with soldiers
guarding grain from the peasants.  Officials and peasants who did not fulfill
their quotas were treated in accordance with the infamous August 1932 decree.

     On 17 December 1932 regulations were tightened even further.  A complete
economic blockade was ordered of villages that did not fulfil their
obligations to the state: all trade, all shipments of food and consumer goods,
whatever their source, were prohibited.

     Officials, wrote Malcolm Muggeridge, "had gone over the country like a
swarm of locusts and taken away everything edible; they shot and exiled
thousands of peasants, sometimes whole villages; they have reduced some of the
most fertile land in the whole world to a melancholy desert."

Could have been avoided
     The famine finally subsided in 1934, when the 1933 harvest was brought
in.
This was because, in the spring of 1933, Moscow "lent" Ukraine seed grain.
Moscow also reduced the quantity of grain to be delivered to the state to five
million tons, about one-quarter of the 1933 harvest.

     Soviet officials today deny that the famine took place, although they do
admit that there were problems due to drought.

     If that was the case, then Ukraine should have suffered a famine in 1934,
not in 1932-33.  The 1934 harvest was the worst in many years — 12.3 million
tons.

     But there was no famine in 1934 because Stalin reduced the amount of
grain from existing stocks to feed the population.  He could have done this in
1932-33, but he did not.  Instead, he deliberately exported 1.7 million tons
of grain to the West to pay for industrial equipment.

     The offers of international relief organizations to assist the starving
in Ukraine were rejected by the Soviet government on the grounds that there
was no famine, hence no need to aid its victims.

     The borders of Ukraine were closely patrolled and starving Ukrainian
peasants were not allowed to cross into Russia in search of bread.

The toll
     How many millions perished?

     Harry Lang, editor of the left-wing Jewish daily Forward, published in
New York, visited Ukraine in 1933 and was told by a high-ranking state
official that six million people had perished from the famine.

     Other estimates range from 6.5 to 8.5 million.  We will never know the
exact number.

     We do know that according to the 1926 Soviet population census there were
31.2 million Ukrainians in the U.S.S.R.  According to the 1939 Soviet census
this number had dropped by 3.1 million to 28.1 million.  (There was no
emigration from the Soviet Ukraine in this period.)  Over a 13-year period,
according to Soviet statistics, the number of Ukrainians had diminished by 11
per cent.  The population of the U.S.S.R., on the other hand, increased by 16
per cent and the number of Russians by 28 per cent.

A national tragedy
     When the Ukrainian peasantry was under attack in 1932-33, Ukrainian
political and cultural leaders sprang to their defense.  Ewald Ammende, a
German eyewitness who analysed this question, wrote in 1936: "The widest
circle of the Ukrainian intelligentsia had entered the struggle: teachers,
students, Soviet officials, all thought it was their duty to protest against a
further sucking dry of their country....  The Soviet regime was faced by a
united people, a solid front, including everyone from the highest Soviet
officials down to the poorest peasants."

     Ukrainian cultural and political leaders paid a heavy price for refusing
to become unwilling agents in the extermination of their own people.

     In 1933, at the height of the famine, a massive purge was ordered in
Ukraine.  As P. Postyshev, Stalin's henchman in Ukraine, pointed out, "almost
all people removed were arrested and put before the firing squad."

     The purge continued virtually uninterrupted until 1938, claiming the
lives of 80 per cent of Ukraine's creative intelligentsia.  Thousands of
priests of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church were killed, as were that church's 35
bishops.

     The desire to stamp out a Ukrainian national consciousness was so extreme
that, according to the famous Russian composer, Dmitrii Shostakovich, several
hundred blind bandurysty — itinerant folk singers — were executed.

     Hundreds of thousands of party members were shot.  The purge was so
thorough that by 1938 not a single secretary of the Council of the People's
Commissars in Ukraine (the cabinet), not even a single deputy of Ukraine's
parliament, the Supreme Soviet, was left.

     The purges were intended to deal a devastating blow to the existence of
Ukrainians as a nation.  At the 20th Party Congress in 1956 Khrushchev said
Stalin had even considered deporting all Ukrainians to Siberia, but "there
were too many of them and there was no place to which to deport them."

     With the famine and the purges, Stalin had come as close to destroying a
nation as his unrestrained power would permit.



http://www.ukar.org/famine07.htm
Stalin's Famine in Ukraine
MALCOLM MUGGERIDGE
UKRAINE FAMINE 1933
Special Edition issued by the
Ukrainian Canadian Committee
Edmonton Branch
October 14, 1983

"The novelty of this particular famine, what made it so diabolical, is that it
was the deliberate creation of a bureaucratic mind, without any consideration
whatever of the consequences of human suffering," Malcolm Muggeridge said.

He was talking about the genocidal famine that swept Ukraine in the winter on
1932 and the spring and summer of 1933.

Muggeridge was there that terrible winter and spring.  As a correspondent for
the Manchester Guardian in Moscow, he was one of the few Western journalists
who circumvented Soviet restrictions and visited the famine regions and then
honestly reported what he had seen.

Marco Carynnyk talked to Muggeridge at his cottage in Sussex, England.

Why did you decide to write about the famine in Ukraine?

It was the big story in all our talks in Moscow.  Everybody knew about it.
There was no question about that.  Anyone you were talking to knew that there
was a terrible famine going on.  Even in the Soviets' own pieces there were
somewhat disguised acknowledgements of great difficulties there.

I realized that that was the big story.  I could also see that all the
correspondents in Moscow were distorting it.

Without making any kind of plans or asking for permission I just went and got
a ticket for Kiev and then went on to Rostov.  The Soviet security is not as
good as people think it is.  If you once duck it, you can go quite a long way.
At least you could in those days.

Going through the countryside by train one could sense the state of affairs.
Ukraine was starving, and you only had to venture out to smaller places to see
derelict fields and abandoned villages.

On one occasion, I was changing trains, and I went wandering around, and in
one of the trains in the station, the kulaks were being loaded onto the train,
and there were military men all along the platform.

I'll tell you another thing that's more difficult to convey, but it impressed
me enormously.  It was on a Sunday in Kiev, and I went into the church there
for the Orthodox mass.  I could understand very little of it, but there was
some spirit in it that I have never come across before or after.  Human beings
at the end of their tether were saying to God, "We come to you, we're in
trouble, nobody by You can help us."

What were you thinking and, more importantly perhaps, what were you feeling
when you saw those scenes of starvation and privation in Ukraine?  How does
one respond in such a situation?

First of all, one feels a deep, deep, deep sympathy with and pity for the
sufferers.  Human beings look very tragic when they are starving.  And
remember that I wasn't unaware of what things were like because in India, for
instance, I've been in a village during a cholera epidemic and seen people
similarly placed.  So it wasn't a complete novelty.

The novelty of this particular famine, what made it so diabolical, is that it
was not the result of some catastrophe like a drought or an epidemic.  It was
the deliberate creation of a bureaucratic mind which demanded the
collectivization of agriculture, immediately, as a purely theoretical
proposition, without any consideration whatever of the consequences in human
suffering.

That was what I found so terrifying.  Think of a man in an office who has been
ordered to collectivize agriculture and get rid of the kulaks without any
clear notion or definition of what a kulak is, and who has in what was then
the GPU and is now the KGB the instrument for doing this, and who then
announces it in the slavish press as one of the great triumphs of the regime.

Given the deliberate nature of the famine in Ukraine, given the fact that food
continued to be stockpiled and exported even as people dropped dead on the
streets, is it accurate to talk about this as a famine?  Is it perhaps
something else?  How does one describe an event of such magnitude?

Perhaps you do need another word.  I don't know what it would be.  The word
‘famine' means people have nothing whatsoever to eat and consume things that
are not normally consumed.  Of course there were stories of cannibalism there.
I don't know whether they were true, but they were very widely believed.
Certainly the eating of cattle and the consequent complete destruction of
whatever economy the farms still had was true.

I remember someone telling me how all manners and finesse disappeared.  When
you're in the grip of a thing like this and you know that someone's got food,
you go and steal it.  You'll even murder to get it.  That's all part of the
horror.

How does one rank the famine of 1933 with other great catastrophes?

I think it's very difficult to make a table of comparison.  What I would say
with complete truth and sincerity is that as a journalist over the last half
century I have seen some pretty awful things.

But the famine is the most terrible thing I have ever seen, precisely because
of the deliberation with which it was done and the total absence of any
sympathy with the people.  To mention it or to sympathize with the people
would mean to go to the Gulag, because then you were criticizing the great
Stalin's project and indicating that you thought it a failure, when allegedly
it was a stupendous success and enormously strengthened the Soviet Union.

What sort of response did you encounter when you came back from the Soviet
Union and published your findings, particularly from people close to you, like
the Webbs.?

The Webbs were furious about it.  Mrs. Webb in her diary puts in a sentence
which gives the whole show away.  She says, "Malcolm has come back with
stories about a terrible famine in the USSR.  I have been to see Mr. Maisky
(the Soviet ambassador in Britain) about it, and I realize that he's got it
absolutely wrong."  Who would suppose that Mr. Maisky would say, "No, no, of
course he's right"?

You published Winter in Moscow when you got back from the Soviet Union, and
you were attacked in the press for your views.

Very strongly.  And I couldn't get a job.

Why was that?  Because people found your reports hard to believe?

No, the press was not overtly pro-Soviet, but it was, as it is now,
essentially sympathetic with that side and distrustful of any serious attack
on it.

How do you explain this sympathy?

It's something I've written and thought about a great deal, and I think that
the liberal mind is attracted by this sort of regime.  My wife's aunt was
Beatrice Webb, and she and Sidney Webb wrote the classic pro-Soviet book,
Soviet Communism: A New Civilization.  And so one saw close at hand the degree
to which they all knew about the regime, knew all about the Cheka (the secret
police) and everything, but they liked it.

I think that those people believe in power.  It was put to me very succinctly
when we were taken down to Kharkiv for the opening of the Dnieper dam.  There
was an American colonel who was running it, building the dam in effect.  "How
do you like it here?" I asked him, thinking that I'd get a wonderful blast of
him saying how he absolutely hated it.  "I think it's wonderful," he said.
"You never get any labor trouble."

This will be one of the great puzzles of posterity in looking back on this
age, to understand why the liberal mind, the Manchester Guardian mind, the New
Republic mind, should feel such enormous sympathy with this authoritarian
regime.

You are implying that the liberal intelligentsia did not simply overlook the
regime's brutality, but actually admired and liked it.

Yes, I'm saying that, although they wouldn't have admitted it, perhaps not
even to themselves.  I remember Mrs. Webb, who after all was a very cultivated
upper-class liberal-minded person, an early member of the Fabian Society and
so on, saying to me, "Yes, it's true, people disappear in Russia."  She said
it with such great satisfaction that I couldn't help thinking that there were
a lot of people in England whose disappearance she would have liked to
organize.

No, it's an everlasting mystery to me how one after the other, the
intelligentsia of the Western world, the Americans, the Germans, even the
French, fell for this thing to such an extraordinary degree.



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Unfortunately, too true.
Always, the ZYDS do their best to foment wars, and other miseries, everywhere
in the world, just to increase their power and the Jew World Order.

On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 09:19:19 -0700, FredBurg 
wrote:

>Those who have failed to learn from the past 2000 years of history, will be
>doomed to repeat history.
>
>With now an extra 51 well documented proven cases of ZHID  COLLABORATION
>WITH NAZIS, besides notorious KASTNER case,  one MUST question the
>HOLOHOAX figures!!
>
>Now even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to be a nazi GESTAPO
>COLLABORATOR!!
>
>On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:11:30 -0700, Ken Levi  wrote:
>
>>For the past 2000 years, the world has suffered because of the cursed
>>Christkiller ZHIDS.
>
>>Not just the Kollaboraci of the ZHIDS with the nazis.
>
>
>>On 27 Sep 2004 16:03:09 -0000, PhilMathews 
>>wrote:
>
>>>Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag in Canada,
>>>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>>>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>>>unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>>>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, wants all to know
>>>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
>
>>>Here is a photo of Ken McVay, director of WWW.NIZKOR.ORG--
>>>Does he not have the uncouth look as to fit the profile of a
>>>person who would say in general regarding child porn:
>>>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>>>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and
>>>have yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn."
>>>I've seen photos of naked children, ... and fail to see the
>>>harm, or any great moral danger to our society)."?
>>>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>>>     Would any of you want to leave this person, Ken McVay,
>>>                alone with your children?
>
>
>>>From: Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header (JohannSebastianBott)
>>>Subject: Re:ZHID ORDNUNGSPOLIZEI = ZYDOWSKY KOLABORANCI!!!
>>>Newsgroups: pl.regionalne.krakow,pl.regionalne.wroclaw
>>>On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:33:28 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>
>>Another significant article that merits discussion!!!
>
>>On Fri, 19 Sep 1997 13:15:13 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI
>> wrote:
>
>> > Just a moment ago, on soc.culture.polish,
>> > Dr. J. Ilicki, Associate Professor of Sociology
>> > and Judaic Studies on Upsalla University raised
>> > the question of Polish Polish in the service of
>> > Germans during occupation of Poland.  The only
>> > reason for this question at this time seems to be
>> > his need to stir interethnic hatered.  Provocatively,
>> > Dr. Ilicki asks:
>> > 1) who were the members of the
>> > police, volunteers or draftees?,
>> > 2) what was their social status?
>> > 3) what happened to them after the war?
>> > Just to play completely innocent (and dumb) he also asks
>> > why they were called Granatowa (dark-navy-blue) Police.
>
>> > Only naive will believe that Prof. Ilicki does not
>> > know the answers.
>> > Also only naive will believe that he is not interested
>> > in Pinsk the hometown of his parents and allegedly
>> > the site of the burial of his grandparents and over
>> > 30,000 pinksers (Jews from Pinsk).  He admitte
>> > that his mother listed them as killed there with
>> > Yad Vashem.  However, young (about 40 years old)
>> > Julian pretends disintrest, because he is afraid that
>> > exhumations might start at the alleged burial site
>> > and will find no skeletons as same happened last
>> > year at nearby Mariompole, presently in Lithuania.
>
>> > But coming back to Dr Illicki question: Polish Police
>> > during German occupation was  dramatically reduced
>> > in numbers and pre-war policemen were forced to
>> > serve as an auxillary force to German Ordnung Polizei.
>> > They were ususally not armed,and when armed never
>> > given more than five bullets for their long rifles.
>> > Moreover, after each use of firearm they
>> > (as well as the Ukraininan Police) had to write
>> > a report for what target each bullet was used
>> > and with what effectivness, hardly an invitation to
>> > the genocide.
>
>>>>>>> Hardly truth to Pawlikowski's story too.
>
>> > On the other hand there was a police force in
>> > the Third Reich, in which service was completely
>> > voluntary.  It was called Ordnungdienst.  Their
>> > emblem was a light alloy Star of David.  The
>> > social background of these Jewish collaborators
>> > according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18%
>> > with post-graduate degrees,  60% with college degree,
>> > 20% with elementary education.  These are data
>> > from self-serving, post-war questionaries.
>
>> > But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the
>> > requirement was that EACH Jewish policeman
>> > has at least matura (two years of college)
>> > see page 489 of his book.  In practice, the
>> > Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
>> > journalist who with the day of German
>> > occupation immediately were fired from
>> > their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because
>> > the schools were closed.
>
>> The service was voluntary. Take the job and keep
>> your life a little longer or die now!
>
>> Pawlikowski forgot how the Soviets were conscripted.
>> Under Stalin they ran to enlist hoping to avoid being
>> killed in the next "relocation"!
>
>> > While Polish teachers joined the underground,
>> > unemployed Jewish intelligentia clamored for the police work.
>
>> > Some of it was really gruesome as you remember
>> > from our previous description of the Feb. 1942
>> > execution on Rybna Street market place in Lodz.
>> > German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown
>> > endlessly in Wiesenthal Museum in LA.  Thousands
>> > of Jews standing and watching behind three
>> > uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered
>> > pistols facing Jewish crowd and about to be hanged
>> > women passing out and forced into
>> > the noose by Jewish Policemen.
>> > -------------
>> > Jozef Pawlikowski
>
>> Herman
>
>First,let us kill all the lawyers! - W.Shakespeare
>First, we get rid of all the politicians! - Mao Tse Dung
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled-as fertiliser!! Me
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>is a revolutionary act."
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages.
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant
>
>
>We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>
>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>office: VISIT at:
>#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>or call: 1-250-616-9431
>
>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
>should give an indication as to the why.
>
>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>
>Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked"?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>
>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>
>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late
>nights.
>
>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
>send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>work:(780)492-0473
>
>And also:panPiotrGlownia - panPiotrGlownia@swipnet.se
>SINCE I LIKE TO RECEIVE LOTS OF EMAILS, FEEL FREE TO SUBSCRIBE ME TO
>ALL KINDS OF MAILLISTS, ESPECIALLY FOR SEX, AND HOMOSEXUALS.
>
>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com
>
>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>IHR - www.ihr.org
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
>
>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>
>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>
>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>
>In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>for many years around the world.



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On 26 Nov 2006 13:38:45 -0800, in alt.revisionism "NH"
 wrote:

Today it is taught in the schools that "Anti-Semitism" began in Germany
in the 1930s after which they were deported. What is not studied is the
fact that at one time or other the Jews have been expelled from every
nation in Europe! When the Jews first began to immigrate to America the
early colonialists in New York, Charleston and Savannah tried to ban
their entry. Benjamin Franklin pleaded with the members of the
Continental Congress to enter a specific ban against Jewish immigration
into the U. S. Constitution to bar them for all time to come.

The Jews claim that they are "only" a religion. The truth is that the
Jews are a RACE. Less than 30% are members of any Synagogue. Whether
they are Orthodox religious, atheists, capitalists or communists - they
still claim to be Jews - members of the Jewish race! Every race has
inherited traits. In the case of the Jews they include trading,
money-changing, usury, and a loathing for "productive labor" which is
scorned as beneath the dignity of the Jews in their "bible" called "THE
TALMUD."

The Jews have not changed since the days when Jesus Christ took up a
whip and drove "the money changers out of the Temple." Jews have always
united to form monopolies. Today they control all the department store
chains and speciality shops along with the lucrative jewelry and animal
fur trade. Jews dominate the fields of all precious metals such as
gold, silver, platinum, tin, lead, etc. They will always ban together
to drive Gentile competitors out of business.

Today America is being flooded with Jewish immigrants from Russia and
even 20,000 per year leave Israel for the U. S. - all with dollar signs
in their eyes. Jews have used their vaunted money-power to seize
control of the Democratic Party and constitute over 50% of all its
financial contributions. Today they are buying up more and more major
U. S. companies. While only 3% of the population, the Jews control over
25% of the nation's wealth and this percentage rises every year. They
are the only racial group totally organized to work for political
domination over America.

Opposition to the Jews did not begin in Germany but dates back before
the birth of Christ over 2,000 years ago! Study the statements made by
"The world's greatest men." They reveal why the "wandering Jews" have
made enemies out of every host country that ever accepted them.

CICERO (Marcus Tullius Cicero). First century B.C. Roman stateman,
writer.

    "Softly! Softly! I want none but the judges to hear me. The Jews
have already gotten me into a fine mess, as they have many other
gentleman. I have no desire to furnish further grist for their mills."
(Oration in Defense of Flaccus)


Cicero was serving as defense counsel at the trial of Flaccus, a Roman
official who interfered with Jewish gold shipments to their
international headquarters (then, as now) in Jerusalem. Cicero himself
certainly was not a nobody, and for one of this stature to have to
"speak softly" shows that he was in the presence of a dangerously
powerful sphere of influence.
and on another occasion Cicero wrote:

    "The Jews belong to a dark and repulsive force. One knows how
numerous this clique is, how they stick together and what power they
exercise through their unions. They are a nation of rascals and
deceivers."

SENECA (Lucius Annaeus Seneca). First century Roman philosopher.

    "The customs of that most criminal nation have gained such strength
that they have now been received in all lands. The conquered have given
laws to the conquerors." (De Superstitione)


DIO CASSIUS. Second century Roman historian. Describing the savage
Jewish uprising against the Roman empire that has been acknowledged as
the turning point downward in the course of that great state-form:

    "The Jews were destroying both Greeks and Romans. They ate the
flesh of their victims, made belts for themselves out of their
entrails, and daubed themselves with their blood... In all, 220,000 men
perished in Cyrene and 240,000 in Cyprus, and for this reason no Jew
may set foot in Cyprus today." (Roman History)


DIODORUS SICULUS. First century Greek historian.Observed that Jews
treated other people as enemies and inferiors.

    "Usury" is the practice of lending money at excessive interest
rates. This has for centuries caused great misery and poverty for
Gentiles. It has brought strong condemnation of the Jews!


BERNARDINO OF FELTRO. 15th century Italian priest. A mild man who
extolled patience and charity in normal circumstances, he described
himself as a "barking dog" when dealing with Jews:

    "Jewish usurers bleed the poor to death and grow fat on their
substance, and I who live on alms, who feed on the bread of the poor,
shall I then be mute before outraged charity? Dogs bark to protect
those who feed them, and I, who am feed by the poor, shall I see them
robbed of what belongs to them and keep silent?" (E. Flornoy, Le
Bienbeureux Bernardin the Feltre)


AQUINAS, THOMAS, Saint. 13th century scholastic philosopher. In his "On
the Governance of the Jews," he wrote:

    "The Jews should not be allowed to keep what they have obtained
>from others by usury; it were best that they were compelled to worked
so that they could earn their living instead of doing nothing but
becoming avaricious."


HILAIARE BELLOC, in the book THE JEWS, page 9

    "There is already something like a Jewish monopoly in high finance
... There is the same element of Jewish monopoly in the silver trade,
and in the control of various other metals, notably lead, nickel,
quicksilver. What is most disquieting of all, this tendency to monopoly
is spreading like a disease."


H. H. BEAMISH, in New York Speech, October 30, 1937

    "The Boer War occurred 37 years ago. Boer means farmer. Many
criticized a great power like Britain for trying to wipe out the Boers.
Upon making inquiry, I found all the gold and diamond mines of South
Africa were owned by Jews; that Rothschild controlled gold; Samuels
controlled silver, Baum controlled other mining, and Moses controlled
base metals. Anything these people touch they inevitably pollute."


W. HUGHES, Premier of Australia, Saturday Evening Post, June 19, 1919

    "The Montefiores have taken Australia for their own, and there is
not a gold field or a sheep run from Tasmania to New South Wales that
does not pay them a heavy tribute. They are the real owners of the
antipodean continent. What is the good of our being a wealthy nation,
if the wealth is all in the hands of German Jews?"


POPE CLEMENT VIII

    "All the world suffers from the usury of the Jews, their monopolies
and deceit. They have brought many unfortunate people into a state of
poverty, especially the farmers, working class people and the very
poor.
    Then as now Jews have to be reminded intermittently anew that they
were enjoying rights in any country since they left Palestine and the
Arabian desert, and subsequently their ethical and moral doctrines as
well as their deeds rightly deserve to be exposed to criticism in
whatever country they happen to live."


NESTA WEBSTER, In World Revolution, The Plot against Civilazation, page
163

    "Since the earliest times it is as the exploiter that the Jew has
been known amongst his fellow men of all races and creeds. Moreover, he
has persistently shown himself ungrateful... The Jews have always
formed a rebellious element in every state."


FRANZ LISZT, famed composer quoted in Col. E. N. Sanctuary's Are These
Things So?, page 278

    "The day will come when all nations amidst which the Jews are
dwelling will have to raise the question of their wholesale expulsion,
a question which will be one of life or death, good health or chronic
disease, peaceful existence or perpetual social fever."


JESUS CHRIST, speaking to the Jews in the Gospel of St. John, VIII:44

    "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lust of your father ye
will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the
truth, because there is not truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he
speaketh of his own: for he is a liar and the father of it. - then
answered the Jews - "

(which makes it clear that Christ was addressing the Jews.)

MARTIN LUTHER, Table Talk of Martin Luther, translated by William
Hazlet, page 43

    "But the Jews are so hardened that they listen to nothing; though
overcome by testimonies they yield not an inch. It is a pernicious
race, oppressing all men by their usury and rapine. If they give a
prince or magistrate a thousand florins, they extort twenty thousand
>from the subjects in payment. We must ever keep on guard against them."


REV. GORDON WINROD, in his book The Keys to Christian Understanding,
pages 114 - 115

    "Judaism does not know Jesus Christ. Judaism hates Jesus Christ.
When St. Paul was in Judaism, before he was converted to Christianity,
he hated Jesus Christ and persecuted Christians and Christianity."
    Paul said: "You have heard of my earlier career in Judaism - how
furiously I persecuted the Church of God, and made havoc of it; and how
in devotion to Judaism I out-stripped many men of may own age among my
people, being far more zealous than they for the tradition of my
forefathers." (Gal. 1:13, 14, Weymouth Translation)

While in Judaism, Paul persecuted Christians because of his intense
hatred for Christians and because of his conformity to the tradition of
the fathers. This shows that the tradition of teachings of Judaism are
filled with hate for Christians.
Few people know of this because they do not carefully read their
Scriptures and because of the great pains which Jews have take to
deceive the Christians. Care has been exerted by the Jews to hide their
ECONOMIC-POLITICAL conspiracy for complete world domination UNDER high
sounding words that have a "RELIGIOUS" ring in the ears of Christians.
The Jews use such "religious" sounding words as "the Jewish faith,"
"the Jewish religion," "Jewish spiritual values," "Jewish religious
doctrines," and like phrases which deceive and lead the unlearned into
total equanimity.
Behind this mask of religiosity stands a complete plan for world
government, world power, world conquest, a Jewish kingdom of this
world, and the destruction of Christianity.

REV. WILLIAM S. MITCHELL of Philadelphia, quoted in Count
Cherep-Spiridovich's book The Secret World Government, page 194

    "If there is an ingrate in history, it is the Jew. In this land
which befriended him he as conspired, plotted, undermined, prostituted
and corrupted and (hiding to this hour behind the braver screen of
other folks), dares to contrive and scheme the death of every Christian
principle which has protected him."


ST. JUSTIN, martyr stated in 116 A. D.

    "The Jews were behind all the persecutions of the Christians. They
wandered through the country everywhere hating and undermining the
Christian faith."


ST. JOHN, Gospel of St. John VII:1

    "After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk
in Jewry because the Jews sought to kill him."


M. H. DE HEEKELINGEN, in Israel: Son Passe, Son Avenir

    "The former Rabbi Drach, converted to Catholicism, says that the
Talmud contains "a large number of musing, utterly ridiculous
extravagancies, most revolting indecencies, and, above all, the most
horrible blasphemies against everything which the Christian religion
holds most sacred and most dear."
    "In the matter of the translation of the Talmud by non-Jews, we
have always preferred that of Luzsensky, whose accuracy has been
established by the Courts. In 1923, the Public Prosecutor of Hungary
caused his Hungarian Talmud to be seized on account of "attack on
public morals" and "pornography." In delivering its verdict, the Court
declared 'INTER ALIA:'
    "The horrors contained in the translation of Alfred Luzsensky are
to be found, without exception, in the Talmud. His translation is
correct, in that it renders these passages, which are actually to be
found in the original text of the Talmud, after their true meaning."
    QUINTAS SPETIMUS FLORENS TERTULLIAN (160 - 230 A. D.) Latin Church
Father "The Jews formed the breeding ground of all anti-Christian
actions."


REV. MARTIN LUTHER, sermon at Eisleben, a few days before his death,
February, 1546

    "Besides, you also have many Jews living in the country, who do
much harm... You should know the Jews blaspheme and violate the name of
our Savior day for day... for that reason you, Milords and men of
authority, should not tolerate but expel them. They are our public
enemies and incessantly blaspheme our Lord Jesus Christ, they call our
Blessed Virgin Mary a harlot and her Holy Son a bastard and to us they
give the epithet of changelings and abortions.
    Therefore deal with them harshly as they do nothing but
excruciatingly blaspheme our Lord Jesus Christ, trying to rob us of our
lives, our health, our honor and belongings."


MARIA THERESA, Queen of Hungary and Bohemia (1771 - 1789)

    "Henceforth no Jew, no matter under what name, will be allowed to
remain here without my written permission. I know of no other
troublesome pest within the state than this race, which impoverished
the people by their fraud, usury and money-lending and commits all
deeds which an honorable man despises. Subsequently they have to be
removed and excluded from here as much as possible."



(The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia states that "The Talmud is the real
"bible" of the Jews and that it supersedes the Old Testament. This
volume has been condemned down through the ages for preaching hatred
for Christ and all Christians. Read "THE TALMUD UNMASKED" for the full
shocking details.)

DIDEROT, DENIS. 18th century French scholar. His famous ENCYCLOPEDIE,
the bible of the pre-revolutionary French "enlightenment," has often
been complained of by Jewish writers as 'anti-Semitic.' Some of
Diderot's other writings are likewise unfriendly:

    "And you, angry and brutish people, vile and vulgar men, slaves
worthy of the yoke [Talmudism] which you bear ... Go, take back your
books and remove yourselves from me. (LA MOISADE)
    [The Talmud] taught the Jews to steal the goods of Christians, to
regard them as savage beasts, to push them over the precipice ... to
kill them with impunity and to utter every morning the most horrible
imprecations against them. (JUIFS)


NASTA WEBSTER, in Secret Societies and Subversive Movements, page 370

    "The Jewish conception of the Jews as the Chosen People who must
eventually rule the world forms indeed the basis of Rabbinical
Judaism... The Jewish religion now takes its stand on the Talmud rather
than on the Bible."


F. TROCASE, in Jewish Austria

    "No obstacle discourages them; they persevere throughout the world,
throughout the centuries, the unity of their race. The Talmud has given
them a powerful organization which modern progress has been unable to
change. Deep, ineradicable hatred of everything that is not Jewish
stimulates them in war which they wage against Christian Society, which
is too divided to be able to fight with the necessary energy."


COUNT HELMUTH VON MOLTKE, Prussian general

    "The Jews form a state, and, obeying their own laws, they evade
those of their host country.
    The Jews always consider an oath regarding a Christian not binding.
During the Campaign of 1812 the Jews were spies, they were paid by both
sides, they betrayed both sides."


MOHAMMED, in the Koran

    "Whoever is a friend of a Jew, belong to them, becomes one of them,
God cannot tolerate this mean people. The Jews have wandered from
divine religion. You must not relent in your work which must show up
Jewish deceit."


BACON, FRANCIS. 16th century British writer, politician. In his The New
Atlantis, he remarked that Jews

    "hate the name of Christ and have a secret and innate rancor
against the people among whom they live."

He also disapproved of non-Jewish usurers as "Judaizers" who would wear
"tawny bonnets" like Jews.

LUTHER, MARTIN. 16th century German religious reformer.

    "They are the real liars and bloodhounds, who have not only
perverted and falsified the entire Scriptures from beginning to end and
without ceasing with their interpretations. And all of the anxious
sighing, longing and hoping of their hearts is directed to the time
when some day they would like to deal with us heathen as they dealt
with the heathen in Persia at the time of Esther... On how they love
the book of Esther, which so nicely agrees with their bloodthirsty,
revengeful and murderous desire and hope. (1)
    The sun never did shine on a more bloodthirsty and revengeful
people as they, who imagine to be the people of God, and who desire to
and think they must murder and crush the heathen. And the foremost
undertaking which they expect of their Messiah is that he should slay
and murder the whole world with the sword. As they at first
demonstrated against us Christians and would like to do now, if they
only could; have also tried it often and have been repeatedly struck on
their snouts...
    Their breath stinks for the gold and silver of the heathen; since
no people under the sun always have been, still are, and always will
remain more avaricious than they, as can be noticed in their cursed
usury. They also find comfort with this: "When the Messiah comes, He
shall take all the gold and silver in the world and distribute it among
the Jews. (2) Thus, wherever they can direct Scripture to their
insatiable avarice, they wickedly do so.
    Therefore know, my dear Christians, that next to the Devil, you
have no more bitter, more poisonous, more vehement and enemy than a
real Jew who earnestly desires to be a Jew. There may be some among
them who believe what the cow or the goose believes. But all of them
are surrounded with their blood and circumcision. In history,
therefore, they are often accused of poisoning wells, stealing children
and mutilating them; as in Trent, Weszensee and the like. Of course
they deny this. Be it so or not, however, I know full well that the
ready will is not lacking with them if they could only transform it
into deeds, in secret or openly. (3)
    A person who does not know the Devil, might wonder why they are so
at enemity with the Christians above all others; for which they have no
reason, since we only do good to them.
    They live among us in our homes, under our protection, use land and
highways, market and streets. Princes and government sit by, snore and
have their maws open, let the Jews take from their purse and chest,
steal and rob whatever they will. That is, they permit themselves and
their subjects to be abused and sucked dry and reduced to beggars with
their own money, through the usury of the Jews. For the Jews, as
foreigners, certainly should have nothing from us; and what they have
certainly must be ours. They do not work, do not earn anything from us,
neither do we donate or give it to them. Yet they have our money and
goods and are lords in our land where they are supposed to be in exile!
    If a thief steals ten gulden he must hang; if he robs people on the
highway, his head is gone. But a Jew, when he steals ten tons of gold
through his usury is dearer than God himself!
    Do not their TALMUD and rabbis write that it is no sin to kill if a
Jew kills a heathen, but it is a sin if he kills a brother in Israel?
It is no sin if he does not keep his oath to a heathen. Therefore, to
steal and rob (as they do with their moneylending) from a heathen, is a
divine service... And they are the masters of the world and we are
their servants - yea, their cattle!
    I maintain that in three fables of Aesop there is more wisdom to be
found than in all the books of the Talmudists and rabbis and more than
ever could come into the hearts of the Jews...
    Should someone think I am saying too much - I am saying much too
little! For I see in [their] writings how they curse us Goyim and wish
as all evil in their schools and prayers. They rob us of our money
through usury, and wherever they are able, they play us all manner of
mean tricks... No heathen has done such things and none would to so
except the Devil himself and those whom he possesses - as he possesses
the Jews.
    Burgensis, who was a very learned rabbi among them and by the grace
of God became a Christian (which seldom occurs), is much moved that in
their schools they so horribly curse us Christians (as Lyra also
writes) and from that draws the conclusion that they must not be the
people of God.
    Now behold what a nice, thick, fat lie it is when they complain
about being captives among us! Jerusalem was destroyed more than 1,400
years ago during that time we Christians have been tortured and
persecuted by the Jews in all the world. On top of that, we do not know
to this day what Devil brought them into our country. We did not fetch
them from Jerusalem!... Yes, we have and hold them captive, as I would
like to keep my rheumatism, and all other diseases and misfortunes, who
must wait as a poor servant, with money and property and everything I
have! I wish they were in Jerusalem with the other Jews and whomsoever
they would like to have with them.

    Now what are we going to do with these rejected, condemned Jewish
people?... Let us apply the ordinary wisdom of other nations like
France, Spain, Bohemia, et al., who made them give an account of what
they had stolen through usury, and divided it evenly; but expelled them
>from their country;. For as heard before, God's wrath is so great over
them that through soft mercy they only become more wicked, through hard
treatment, however, only a little better. Therefore, away with them!
    How much more unbearable it is that we should permit the entire
Christendom and all of us to be bought with our own money, be slandered
and cursed by the Jews, who on top of all that be made rich and our
lords, who laugh us to scorn and are tickled by their audacity!
    What a joyful affair that would be for the Devil and his angels,
and cause them to laugh through their snouts like a sow grinning at her
little pigs, but deserving real wrath before God. (From THE JEWS AND
THEIR LIES)
    Maybe mild-hearted and gentle Christians will believe that I am too
rigorous and drastic against the poor, afflicted Jews, believing that I
ridicule them and treat them with much sarcasm. By my word, I am far
too weak to be able to ridicule such a satanic brood. I would fain to
do so, but they are far greater adepts at mockery than I and possess a
god who is master in this art. It is the Evil One himself.
    Even with no further evidence than the Old Testament, I would
maintain, and no person on earth could alter my opinion, that the Jews
as they are today are veritably a mixture of all the depraved and
malevolent knaves of the whole world over, who have then been dispersed
in all countries, similarly to the Tartars, Gypsies and such folk."


WASHINGTON, GEORGE, in Maxims of George Washington by A. A. Appleton &
Co.

    "They (the Jews) work more effectively against us, than the enemy's
armies. They are a hundred times more dangerous to our liberties and
the great cause we are engaged in... It is much to be lamented that
each state, long ago, has not hunted them down as pest to society and
the greatest enemies we have to the happiness of America."



This prophecy, by Benjamin Franklin, was made in a "CHIT CHAT AROUND
THE TABLE DURING INTERMISSION," at the Philadelphia Constitutional
Convention of 1787. This statement was recorded in the dairy of Charles
Cotesworth Pinckney, a delegate from South Carolina.

    "I fully agree with General Washington, that we must protect this
young nation from an insidious influence and impenetration. The menace,
gentlemen, is the Jews.
    In whatever country Jews have settled in any great number, they
have lowered its moral tone; depreciated its commercial integrity; have
segregated themselves and have not been assimilated; have sneered at
and tried to undermine the Christian religion upon which that nation is
founded, by objecting to its restrictions; have built up a state within
the state; and when opposed have tried to strangle that country to
death financially, as in the case of Spain and Portugal.
    For over 1,700 years, the Jews have been bewailing their sad fate
in that they have been exiled from their homeland, as they call
Palestine. But gentlemen, did the world give it to them in fee simple,
they would at once find some reason for not returning. Why? Because
they are vampires, and vampires do not live on vampires. They cannot
live only among themselves. They must subsist on Christians and other
people not of their race.
    If you do not exclude them from these United States, in their
Constitution, in less than 200 years they will have swarmed here in
such great numbers that they will dominate and devour the land and
change our form of government, for which we Americans have shed our
blood, given our lives our substance and jeopardized our liberty.
    If you do not exclude them, in less than 200 years our descendants
will be working in the fields to furnish them substance, while they
will be in the counting houses rubbing their hands. I warn you,
gentlemen, if you do not exclude Jews for all time, your children will
curse you in your graves.
    Jews, gentlemen, are Asiatics, let them be born where they will nor
how many generations they are away from Asia, they will never be
otherwise. Their ideas do not conform to an American's, and will not
even thou they live among us ten generations. A leopard cannot change
its spots. Jews are Asiatics, are a menace to this country if permitted
entrance, and should be excluded by this Constitutional Convention.


STYVESANT, PETER. 17th century Dutch governor in America.

    "The Jews who have arrived would nearly all like to remain here,
but learning that they (with their customary usury and deceitful
trading with the Christians) were very repugnant to the inferior
magistrates, as also to the people having the most affection for you;
the Deaconry also fearing that owing to their present indigence they
might become a charge in the coming winter, we have, for the benefit of
this weak newly developing place and land in general, deemed it useful
to require them in a friendly way to depart; praying also most
seriously in this connection, for ourselves also for the general
community of your worships, that the deceitful race - such hateful
enemies and blasphemers of the name of Christ - not be allowed further
to infect and trouble this new colony. (Letter to the Amsterdam Chamber
of the Dutch West India Company, from New Amsterdam, September 22,
1654.)

The Jews whom he attempted to oust merely applied to their fellow Jews
in Holland, and the order came back from the Company countermanding the
expulsion. (For a similar situation during the Civil War, see ULYSSES
GRANT). Among the reasons given by "their worships" for over-ruling
their governor, one stands out rather glaringly, in view of the usual
Jewish contention that their people were 'poor and persecuted:' "
...and also because of the large amount of capital which they have
invested in shares of this Company." (Harry Golden and Martin Rywell,
THE JEWS IN AMERICAN HISTORY)
THE GEORGIA COLONY IN AMERICA. On January 5, 1734, the trustees ordered
that three Jews who had been sending correligionists into the colony
without authorization "use their endeavors that the said Jews may be
removed from the Colony of Georgia, as the best and only satisfaction
that they can give to the Trustees for such an indignity offered to
Gentlemen acting under His Majesty's Charter." (C. Jones, HISTORY OF
SAVANNAH)

JEFFERSON, THOMAS. 18th century American statesman.

    "Dispersed as the Jews are, they still form one nation, foreign to
the land they live in. " (D. Boorstin, THE AMERICANS)
    "Those who labor in the earth are the Chosen People of God, if ever
he had a chosen people. " (NOTES ON VIRGINIA)


BEAMISH, HENRY H. 20th century British publisher.

    "There is no need to be delicate on this Jewish question. You must
face them in this country. The Jew should be satisfied here. I was here
forty-seven years ago; your doors were thrown open and you were then
free. Now he has got you absolutely by the throat - that is their
reward. " (New York speech, October 30, 1937)


HARRINGTON, LORD. 19th century British statesman. Opposed admission of
Jewish immigrants to England because:

    "They are the great moneylenders and loan contractors of the
world... The consequence is that the nations of the world are groaning
under heavy systems of taxation and national debt. They have ever been
the greatest enemies of freedom. (Speech in the House of Lords, July
12, 1858)


WALTER CRICK, British Manufacturer, in the NORTHAMPTON DAILY ECHO,
March 19. 1925)

    "Jews can destroy by means of finance. Jews are International.
Control of credits in this country is not in the hands of the English,
but of Jews. It has become the biggest danger the British Empire ever
had to face."


WORLD FAMOUS MEN of the past accused the Jews of founding Communism.
This charge is well founded. The Communist philosopy was drawn up by
Karl Marx who descended from a long line of Rabbis. His ideology of
anti-Christian and Socialist thought is outlined in the Jewish "TALMUD"
which is the "bible" of the Jews. Of the four political groups which
overthrew the Christan Czar of Russia two were 100% Jewish. They were
the Mensheviks and The Jewish Bund. The other two were the Socialist
Revolutionary Party and the Bolsheviks. Both were headed by Jews but
had some Gentile members. Today we now know that Lenin was Jewish and
all of the leaders of his first government were Jews. They were
Trotsky, Zinoviev, Kamenev and Sverdlow. The wealthiest Jewish banker
in the world at that time, Jacob Schiff of Kuhn, Loeb investment bank
of New York City, gave Trotsky and Lenin $20 million to overthrow the
Czar and establish the Soviet tyranny (according to the "NEW YORK
JOURNAL-AMERICAN" of February 3, 1949.)

CHURCHILL, WINSTON. 20th century British politician. In 1920, he wrote
a long newspaper article of the recent Bolshevik seizure of Russia.
After praising what he called the "national Jews" of Russia, he said:

    "In violent opposition to all this sphere of Jewish efforts rise
the schemes of the International Jews. The adherents of this sinister
confederacy are mostly men reared up among the unhappy populations of
countries where Jews are persecuted on account of their race. Most, if
not all, of them have forsaken the faith of their forefathers, and
divorced from their minds all spiritual hopes of the next world. This
movement among the Jews is not new. From the days of
Spartacus-Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky
(Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxemburg (Germany), and Emma
Goldman (United States), this world-wide revolutionary conspiracy for
the overthrow of civilization and for the reconstitution of society on
the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and
impossible equality, has been steadily growing. It played, as a modern
writer, Mrs. Webster has ably shown, a definite recognizable part in
the tragedy of the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of
every subversive movement during the Nineteenth Century; and now at
last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworlds of
the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people
by the hair of their heads and have become practically the undisputed
masters of the enormous empire.
    There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creating of
Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution
by these international and for the most part atheistic Jews. It is
certainly the very great one; it probably outweighs all others. With
the notable exception of Lenin, the majority of the leading figures are
Jews. Moreover, the principal inspiration and driving power comes from
the Jewish leaders... In the Soviet institutions the predominance of
Jews is even more astounding. And the prominent if not the principal
part in the system of terrorism applied by the extraordinary
Commissions for combating Counter Revolution has been take by Jews, and
in some notable cases by Jewesses. The same evil prominence was
obtained by Jews in the brief period of terror during which Bela Kun
ruled in Hungary. The same phenomenon has been presented in Germany
(especially Bavaria), so far as this madness has been allowed to prey
upon the temporary prostration of the German people. Although in all
these countries there are many nonJews every whit as bad as the worst
of the Jewish revolutionaries, the part played by the latter in
proportion to their numbers in the population is astonishing. ("Zionism
versus Bolshevism: A Struggle for the Soul of the Jewish People."
ILLUSTRATED SUNDAY HERALD, London, February 8, 1920.)


BAKUNYIN, MIKHYL. 19th century Russian revolutionary.

    "Marx is a Jew and is surrounded by a crowd of little, more or less
intelligent, scheming, agile, speculating Jews, just as Jews are
everywhere, commercial and banking agents, writers, politicians,
correspondents for newspapers of all shades; in short, literary
brokers, just as they are financial brokers, with one foot in the bank
and the other in the socialist movement, and their arses sitting upon
the German press. They have grabbed hold of all newspapers, and you can
imagine what a nauseating literature is the outcome of it.
    Now this entire Jewish world, which constitutes an exploiting sect,
a people of leeches, a voracious parasite, Marx feels an instinctive
inclination and a great respect for the Rothschilds. This may seem
strange. What could there be in common between communism and high
finance? Ho ho! The communism of Marx seeks a strong state
centralization, and where this exists there must inevitably exist a
state central bank, and where this exists, there the parasitic Jewish
nation, which speculates upon the labor of the people, will always find
the means for its existence...
    In reality, this would be for the proletariat a barrack regime,
under which the workingmen and the working closely and intimately
connected with one another, regarless not only of frontiers but of
political differences as well - this Jewish world is today largely at
the disposal of Marx or Rothschil. I am sure that, on the one hand, the
Rothschilds appreciate the merits of Marx, and that on the other hand,
women, converted into a uniform mass, would rise, fall asleep, work and
live at the beat of the drum; the privilege of ruling would be in the
hands of the skilled and the learned, with a wide scope left for
profitable crooked deals carried on by the Jews, who would be attracted
by the enormous extension of the international speculations of the
national banks... (Polémique contres les Juifs)

This startling piece of prediction is particularly impressive to those
who have observed the Soviet scene and notice its strange relationship
with capitalist financiers - overwhelmingly Jewish - since the
revolution. The line runs from Olof Aschberg, self-described "Bolshevik
banker" who ferried to Trotsky the huge sums raised for the revolution
by financiers in Europe and America, to Armand Hammer in the 1970s, who
has specialized in multimillion-dollar trade concessions with the now
supposedly 'anti-Semitic' commissars.

WILHELM II. German Kaiser.

    "A Jew cannot be a true patriot. He is something different, like a
bad insect. He must be kept apart, out of a place where he can do
mischief - even by pogroms, if necessary.
    The Jews are responsible for Bolshevism in Russia, and Germany too.
I was far too indulgent with them during my reign, and I bitterly
regret the favors I showed the prominent Jewish bankers." (CHICAGO
TRIBUNE, July 2, 1922)


CARDINAL MINDSZENTY, of Hungary quoted in B'nai B'rith Messenger,
January 28, 1949

    "The troblemakers in Hungary are the Jews... they demoralize our
country and they are the leaders of the revolutionary gang that is
torturing Hungary."


ADRIEN ARCAND, New York speech, October 30, 1937

    "When it came to Mexico, the promoters of Communism were the Jews
Calles, Hubermann and Aaron Saenz; in Spain we saw Azaña and
Rosenberg; in Hungary we saw Bela Kun, Szamuelly, Agoston and dozen
other Jews; in Bavaria, we saw Kurt Eisner and a host of other Jews; in
Belgium Marxian Socialism brought to power Vadervelde alias Epstein,
and Paul Hymans, two Jews; in France, Marxian Socialism brought forth
the Jews Leon Blum (who showed so well his Jewish instincts in his
filthy book Du Mariarge), Mandel, Zyromsky, Danain and a whole tribe of
them; in Italy we had seen the Jews Nathan and Claudio Treves.
Everywhere, Marxism brings Jews on the top - And this is no hazard."


HILAIRE BELLOC, renown historian in G. K.'s WEEKLY, February 4, 1937

    "The propaganda of Communism throughout the world, in organization
and direction is in the hands of Jewish agents. As for anyone who does
not know that the Bolshevist movement in Russia is Jewish, I can only
say that he must be a man who is taken in by the suppression of our
deplorable press."


A. HOMER, writes in Judaism and Bolshevism, page 7

    "History shows that the Jew has always been, by nature, a
revolutionary and that, since the dispersion of his race in the second
century, he has either initiated or assisted revolutionary movements in
religion, politics and finance, which weakened the power of the States
wherein he dwelt. On the other hand, a few far-seeing members of that
race have always been at hand to reap financial and political advantage
coincident with such upheavals."


CAPTAIN MONTGOMERY SCHYLER, American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia, in
a military intelligence report dated March 1, 1919, to Lt. Col. Barrows
in Vladivostok

    "It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the United States but
the Bolshevik movement is and has been since its beginning guided and
controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type, who have been in the
United States and there absorbed every one of the worst phases of our
civilization without having the least understanding of what we really
mean by liberty."


MRS. CLARE SHERIDAN, Traveler, Lecturer in NEW YORK WORLD, December 15,
1923

    "The Communists are Jews, and Russia is being entirely administered
by them. They are in every government office, bureau and newspaper.
They are driving out the Russians and are responsible for the
anti-Semitic feeling which is increasing."


MAJOR ROBERT H. WILLIAMS, in Fecp and the Minority Machine, page 10

    "B'nai B'rith, the secret Jewish fraternity, was organized in 1843,
awakening world Jewish aspirations, or Zionism, and its name, meaning
"Sons of the Covenant," suggests that the 12 men who organized the
fraternity aimed at bringing about the fulfillment of "the Covenant,"
or the supposed Messianic promise of rulership over all peoples. To
rule all peoples, it is first necessary to bring them together in a
world federation or world government - which is the avowed aim of both
Communists and Zionists."


VLADIMIR, LENIN, Founder of Bolshevik Communist (From an article in
Northern Pravda, October-December 1913, qouted in Lenin on the Jewish
Question, page 10)

    "There the great universally progressive features of Jewish culture
have made themselves clearly felt: its internationalism, its
responsiveness of the advanced movements of our times (the percentage
of Jews in democratic and proletarian movements is everywhere higher
than the percentage of Jews in the general population.)
    ...Those Jewish Marxists who join up in the international Marxist
organizations with the Russian, Lithuanian, Ukrainian and other
workers, adding their might (both in Russian and in Jewish) to the
creation of an international culture of the working class movement, are
continuing the best traditions of Jewry."


JOSEPH STALIN in a reply given on January 12, 1931 to an enquiry made
by the Jewish Telegraphic Agency of America (Stars and Sand, page 316)

    "Anti-Semitism is dangerous for the toilers, for it is a false
track which diverts them from the proper road and leads them into the
jungle. Hence, Communists, as consistent internationalists, cannot but
be irreconcilable and bitter enemies of anti-Semitism. In the U.S.S.R.,
anti-Semitism is strictly prosecuted as a phenomenon hostile to the
Soviet system. According to the laws of the U.S.S.R. active
anti-Semites are punished with death."


HENRY FORD in (The Dearborn Independent, 12-19 February 1921

    "Jews have always controlled the business... The motion picture
influence of the United States and Canada... is exclusively under the
control, moral and financial, of the Jewish manipulators of the public
mind."


M. OUDENDYK, the Netherlands' Minister to Petrograd on September 6,
1918, to the British Government, published in the unexpurgated edition
of A Collection of Reports on Bolshevism in Russia, April, 1919

    "...I consider that the immediate suppression of Bolshevism is the
greatest issue before the World, not even excluding the war which is
till raging, and unless, as above stated, Bolshevism is nipped in the
bud immediately, it is bound to spread in one form or another over
Europe and the whole World, as it is organized and worked by Jews who
have no nationality, and whose one object is to destroy for their own
ends the existing order of things."


A. N. FIELD, in Today's Greatest Problem

    "Once the Jewishness of Bolshevism is understood, its otherwise
puzzling features become understandable. Hatred of Christianity, for
instance, is not a Russian characteristic; it is a Jewish one."


FATHER DENIS FAHEY; in his book The Rulers of Russia, page 25

    "The real forces behind Bolshevism is Russia are Jewish forces, and
Bolshevism is really an instrument in the hands of the Jews for the
establishment of their future Messianic kingdom."


A. N. FIELD, The Truth About the Slump, page 208

    "The World today, however provides a spectacle of a great
concentration of Jewish power. In New York there is a concentration of
Jewish financial power dominating the entire world in its material
affairs, and side by side with it is the greates physical concentration
of the Jews ever recorded. On the other side of the globe, there has
taken place in Russia the greatest concentration of the Jewish
revolutionary activity in all history...
    The enormously significant thing in the world today is that both
this power of the purse (Theodor Herzl's "terrible (Jewish) power of
the purse") and revolutionary activity are working in the direction of
destroying the entire existing order of things, and not only are they
working in a common direction, but there is a mass of evidence that
they are working in unison."


H. H. BEAMISH, N.Y. speech, 1937

    "Communism is Judaism. The Jewish Revolution in Russia was in
1918."


HILARY COTTER, author of Cardinal Minszenty, The Truth About His Real
"Crime," page 6

    "Communism and Judaism are one and the same."


ADRIEN ARCAND, Canadian political leader in New York Speech, October
30, 1937

    "There is nothing else in Communism - a Jewish conspiracy to grab
the whole world in their clutches; and no intelligent man in the world
can find anything else, except the Jews, who rightly call it for
themselves a "paradise on earth."

    Jews are eager to bring Communism, because they know what it is and
what it means.
    It is because Communism has not been fought for what it really is -
a Jewish scheme invented by Jews - that it has progressed against all
opposition to it. We have fought the smoke-screen presented by Jewish
dialecticians and publicists, refusing to fight the inventor, profiteer
and string-puller. Because Christians and Gentiles have come to fear
the Jews, fear the truth, and they are paralyzed by the paradoxical
slogans shouted by the Jews."
    REV. KENNETH GOFF, in STILL 'TIS OUR ANCIENT FOE, page 99 "The
Frankenstein of Communism is the product of the Jewish mind, and was
turned loose upon the world by the son of a Rabbi, Karl Marx, in the
hopes of destroying Christian civilization - as well as others. The
testimony given before the Senate of the United States which is take
>from the many pages of the Overman Report, reveals beyond a shadow of a
doubt that Jewish bankers financed the Russian Revolution."


POPES, ROMAN CATHOLIC.

SYLVESTER I. Condemned Jewish anti-Christian activity.

GREGORY I ('The Great'). Protested wholesale circumcision of Christian
slaves by Jewish traders, who monopolized the slave trade in Europe and
the Middle East and were widely suspected of supplying white girls to
Oriental and African buyers.

GREGORY VIII. Forbade Jews to have power over Christians, in a letter
to Alfonso VI of Castile.

GREGORY IX. Condemned the TALMUD as containing "every kind of vileness
and blasphemy against Christian doctrine."

BENEDICT XIII. His Bull on the Jewish issue (1450) declared:

    "The heresies, vanities and errors of the TALMUD prevent their
knowing the truth."

JULIUS III. Contra Hebreos retinentes libros (1554) ordered the TALMUD
burned "everywhere" and established a strict censorship over Jewish
genocidal writings - an order that has never been rescinded and which
presumably is still binding upon Catholics.

PAUL IV. Cum nimis absurdim (1555) promulgated immediately after his
coronation, was a powerful condemnation of Jewish usury. It embodies a
model legal code to curb Jewish power that was recommended to all
communities.

PIUS IV. Condemned Jewish genocidal writings.

PIUS V. Hebraeorum gens (1569) expelled all Jews from the Papal States.

GREGORY XIII. Declared that Jews

    "continue to plot horrible crimes" against Christians "with daily
increasing audacity."

CLEMENT VIII. Condemned Jewish genocidal writings.

ALEXANDER VIII. Condemned Jewish genocidal writings.

BENEDICT XIV. Quo Primum 1751) denounced Jewish control of commerce and
"systematical despoliation" of the Christian through usury.

PIUS VII. Known generally as an 'anti-Semite' by Jewish writers.

BENEDICT XV. Warned, in 1920, against

    "the advent of a Universal Republic which is longed for by all the
worst elements of disorder."

This is resented by some Jews because of their active sponsorship and
direction of such projects as the League of Nations and United Nations.
- And in effect, all Popes who have issued editions of the Index
Expurgatorius, in which Jewish genocidal and anti-Christian writings
are condemned, according to the instructions of the Council of Trent.


GRANT, USYSSES S. 19th century American general, politician. While in
command of the 13th Army Corps, headquartered at Oxford, Mississippi,
he became so infuriated at Jewish camp-followers attempting to
penetrate the conquered territory that he finally attempted to expel
the Jews:

    "I have long since believed that in spite of all the vigilance that
can be infused into post commanders, the special regulations of the
Treasury Department have been violated, and that mostly by Jews and
other unprincipled traders. So well satisfied have I been of this that
I instructed the commanding officers at Columbus to refuse all permits
to Jews to come South, and I have frequently had them expelled from the
department, but they come in with their carpet-sacks in spite of all
that can be done to prevent it. The Jews seem to be a privileged class
that can travel anywhere. They will land at any woodyard on the river
and make their way through the country. If not permitted to buy cotton
themselves, they will act as agents for someone else, who will be at
military post with a Treasury permit to receive cotton and pay for it
in Treasury notes which the Jew will buy up at an agreed rate, paying
gold. (Letters to C. P. Wolcott, assistant secretary of war,
Washington, December 17, 1862)
    1. The Jews, as a class, violating every regulation of trade
established by the Treasury Department, and also Department orders, are
hereby expelled from the Department.
    2. Within twenty-four hours from the receipt of this order by Post
Commanders, they will see that all of this class of people are
furnished with passes and required to leave, and anyone returning after
such notification, will be arrested and held in confinement until an
opportunity occurs of sending them out as prisoners, unless furnished
with permits from these headquarters.
    3. No permits will be given these people to visit headquarters for
the purpose of making personal application for trade permits.
    By order of Major Gen. Grant Jno. A. Rawlings, Assistant Adjutant
General (General Order Number 11, December 17, 1862)


The expulsion order was immediately countermanded by the
general-in-chief, H. W. Halleck, in Washington. Apparently the expelled
Jews had immediately contacted their kinsmen there and had pressure
brought to bear.

SHERMAN, WILLIAM T. 19th century American soldier. In a letter from
Union-occupied Memphis, July 30, 1862, he wrote:

    "I found so many Jews and speculators here trading in cotton, and
secessionists had become so open in refusing anything but gold, that I
have felt myself bound to stop it. The gold can have but one use - the
purchase of arms and ammunition... Of course, I have respected all
permits by yourself or the Secretary of the Treasury, but in these new
cases (swarms of Jews), I have stopped it." (The Sherman Letters)


ROSS, L. F. 19th century American military man. As did Generals ULYSSES
S. GRANT and WILLIAM T. SHERMAN, Ross confronted Jewish 'carpetbagging'
cotton traders preying upon captured Confederate areas during the Civil
War. In a letter to General John A. McClernand, he wrote:

    "The cotton speculators are quite clamorous for aid in the getting
their cotton away from Middleburg, Hickory Valley, etc., and offer to
pay liberally for the service. I think I can bring it away with safety,
and make it pay to the Government. As some of the Jew owners have as
good as stolen the cotton from the planters, I have no conscientious
scruples in making them pay liberally to take it away."


OLMSTED, GREDERICK LAW. 19th century American architect, historian.

    "A swarm of Jews has, within the last ten years, settled in every
Southern town, many of them men of no character, opening cheap clothing
and trinket shops, ruining or driving out of business many of the old
retailers, and engaging in an unlawful trade with the simple Negroes,
which is found very profitable. (The Cotton Kingdom. For other views on
Jewish involvement in exploiting the South, see ULYSSES S. GRANT and
MARK TWAIN.)


TWAIN, MARK (S. L. Clemens). 19th century American writer.

    "In the U.S. cotton states, after the war... the Jew came down in
force, set up shop on the plantation, supplied all the Negroes' wants
on credit, and at the end of the season was the proprietor of the
Negro's share of the present crop and part of the next one. Before
long, the whites detested the Jew. (1)
    The Jew is being legislated out of Russia. The reason is not
concealed. The movement was instituted because the Christian peasant
stood no chance against his commercial abilities. The Jew was always
ready to lend on a crop. When settlement day came, he owned the crop;
the next year he owned the farm - like Joseph. (2)
    In the England of John's time everybody got into debt to the Jew.
He gathered all lucrative enterprises into his hands. He was the King
of Commerce. He had to be banished from the realm. For like reasons,
Spain had to banish him 400 years ago, and Austria a couple of
centuries later.
    In all ages Christian Europe has been obliged to curtail his
activities. If he entered upon a trade, the Christian had to retire
>from it. If he set up as a doctor, he took the business. If he
exploited agriculture, the other farmers had to get at something else.
The law had to step in to save the Christian from the poor-house.
Still, almost bereft of employments, he found ways to make money. Even
to get rich. This history has a most sordid and practical commercial
look. Religious prejudices may account for one part of it, bit not for
the other nine.
    Protestants have persecuted Catholics - but they did not take their
livelihoods away from them. Catholics have persecuted Protestants - bit
they never closed agriculture and the handicrafts against them. I feel
convinced that the Crucifixion has not much to do with the world's
attitude toward the Jew; that the reasons for it are much older than
that event ...
    I am convinced that the persecution of the Jew is not in any large
degree due to religious prejudice. No, the Jew is a money-getter. He
made it the end and aim of his life. He was at it in Rome. He has been
at it ever since. His success has made the whole human race his enemy.
    You will say that the Jew is everywhere numerically feeble. When I
read in the Cyclopedia Britannica that the Jewish population in the
United States was 250,000 I wrote the editor and explained to him that
I was personally acquainted with more Jews than that, and that his
figures were without doubt a misprint for 25,000,000. People told me
that they had reasons to suspect that for business reasons, many Jews
did not report themselves as Jews. It looks plausible. I am strongly of
the opinion that we have an immense Jewish population in America. I am
assured by men competent to speak that the Jews are exceedingly active
in politics. ("Concerning the Jews," Harper's Monthly Magazine,
September 1899)


Twain's opinion on the Jews is probably the best-kept secret in
American literary history. Immediately after his death, his eccentric
daughter Clara married - or was married by - the Jewish piano player,
Ossip Galbrilowitsch. Twain's publishers were given speedy instructions
to delete "Concerning the Jews" from the collected works, where it had
appeared in the book The Man that Corrupted Hadleybury & Other Stories.
(1) Since Jews provided most of the agitators and orators who pushed
forward the Abolition campaign that culminated in the Civil War (which
Jewish bankers largely financed, on both sides), it seems a legitimate
question whether there was any preplanning for the wholesale - and
retail - economic looting done by mainly Jewish carpetbaggers after the
war. (2) We have cited a host of other writers on the terrible economic
depredation that Jewry visited on the people of Tzarist Russia.

ERNEST RENAN, French historian

    "The Jews are not merely a different religious community, but - and
this is the most important factor - ethnically an altogether different
race. The European felt instinctively that the Jew is a stranger, who
immigrated from Asia. The so-called prejudice is natural sentiment.
Civilization will overcome antipathy against the Israelite who merely
professes another religion, but never against the racially different
Jew...
    In Eastern Europe the Jew is the cancer slowly eating into the
flesh of other nations. Exploitation of the people is his only aim.
Selfishness and a lack of personal courage are his chief
characteristics; self-sacrifice and patriotism are altogether foreign
to him."


GOLDWIN SMITH, Professor of Modern History at Oxford, wrote in
Nineteenth Century, October 1881

    "The Jew alone regard his race as superior to humanity, and looks
forward not to its ultimate union with other races, but to its triumph
over them all and to its final ascendancy under the leadership of a
tribal Messiah."


MENCKEN, H. L. 20th century American writer.

    "The Jews could be put down very plausibly as the most unpleasant
race ever heard of. As commonly encountered they lack any of the
qualities that mark the civilized man: courage, dignity,
incorruptibility, ease, confidence. They have vanity without pride,
voluptuousness without taste, and learning without wisdom. Their
fortitude, such as it is, is wasted upon puerile objects, and their
charity is mainly a form of display." (Treatise on the Gods)
    The fact that what are commonly spoken of as rights are often
really privileges is demonstrated in the case of the Jews. They resent
bitterly their exclusion from certain hotels, resorts and other places
of gathering, and make determined efforts to horn in. But the moment
any considerable number of them horns in, the attractions of the place
diminish, and the more pushful Jews turn to one where they are still
nicht gewuenscht ... ("not wanted.")
    "I am one of the few Goyim who have ever actually tackled the
TALMUD. I suppose you now expect me to add that it is a profound and
noble work, worthy of hard study by all other GOYIM. Unhappily, my
report must differ from this expectation. It seems to me, save for a
few bright spots, to be quite indistinguishable from rubbish..."
    "The Jewish theory that the GOYIM envy the superior ability of the
Jews is not borne out by the facts. Most GOYIM, in fact, deny that the
Jew is superior, and point in evidence to his failure to take the first
prizes: he has to be content with the seconds. No Jewish composer has
ever come within miles of Bach, Beethoven and Brahms; no Jew has ever
challenged the top-flight painters of the world, and no Jewish
scientist has equaled Newton, Darwin, Pasteur or Mendel. In the latter
bracket such apparent exception as Ehrlich, Freud and Einstein are only
apparent. Ehrlich, in fact, contributed less to biochemical fact than
to biochemical theory, and most of his theory was dubious. Freud was
nine-tenths quack, and there is sound reason for believing that even
Einstein will not hold up: in the long run his curved space may be
classed with the psychosomatic bumps of Gall and Spurzheim. But whether
this inferiority of the Jew is real or only a delusion, it must be
manifest that it is generally accepted. The GOY does not, in fact,
believe that the Jew is better than the non-Jew; the most he will admit
is that the Jew is smarter at achieving worldly success. But this he
ascribes to sharp practices, not to superior ability." (Minority
Report: H. L. Mencken's Notebooks)


SHAW, GEORGE BERNARD. 20th century British dramatist.

    "This is the real enemy, the invader from the East, the Druze, the
ruffian, the oriental parasite; in a word: the Jew. (London Morning
Post, December 3, 1925)
    This craving for bouquets by Jews is a symptom of racial
degeneration. The Jews are worse than my own people. Those Jews who
still want to be the chosen race (chosen by the late Lord Balfour) can
go to Palestine and stew in their own juice. The rest had better stop
being Jews and start being human beings. (Literary Digest, October 12,
1932)


WAGNER, RICHARD. 19th century German composer.

    "The Jew has never had an art of his own, hence never a live of
art-enabling import... "So long as the separate art of music had a real
organic life-need in it, down to the epochs of Mozart and Beethoven,
there was nowhere to be found a Jew composer: it was utterly impossible
for an element quiet foreign to that living organism to take a part in
the formative stages of that life. Only when a body's inner death is
manifest, do outside elements win the power of judgment in it - yet
merely to destroy it.
    On one thing am I clear: that is the influence which the Jews have
gained upon our mental life, as displayed in the deflection and
falsification of our highest culture-tendencies. Whether the downfall
of our culture can be arrested by a violent rejection of the
destructive alien element, I an unable to decide, since that would
require forces with whose existence I am unacquainted. (Judaism in
Music)


SOMBART, WERNER. 20th century German economist.

    "Capitalism was born from the money loan. Money lending contains
the root idea of capitalism. Turn to the pages of the TALMUD and you
will find that the Jews made an art of lending money. They were taught
early to look for their chief happiness in the possession of money.
They fathomed all the secrets that lay hid in money. They became Lords
of Money and Lords of the World...


FITZGERALD, F. SCOTT. 20th century American novelist.

    "Down a tall busy street he read a dozen Jewish names on a line of
stores; in the door of each stood a dark little man watching the
passers from intent eyes - eyes gleaming with suspicion, with pride,
with clarity, with cupidity, with comprehension. New York - he could
not dissociate it from the slow, upward creep of this people - the
little stores, growing, expanding, consolidating, moving, watched over
with hawks' eyes and a bee's attention to detail - they [were Jews.]


EMERSON, RALPH WALDO. 19th century American philosopher, poet.

    "The sufferance which is the badge of the Jew has made him, in
these days, the ruler of the rulers of the earth. (Fate an essay)


BURTON, SIR RICHARD FRANCIS. 19th century British diplomat, writer.
After a sting as consul at Damascus, Syria, where some years before, a
Catholic priest was allegedly murdered in a blood ritual by Jews,
Burton took an interest in the matter. His investigations satisfied him
that such killings actually were performed by certain sects of Jews.

    "The Jew's hand was ever, like Ishmael's, against every man but
those belonging to the Synagogue. His fierce passions and fiendish
cunning, combined with abnormal powers of intellect, with intense
vitality, and with a persistency of purpose which the world has rarely
seen, and whetted moreover by a keen thirst for blood engendered by
defeat and subjection, combined to make him the deadly enemy of all
mankind, whilst his unsocial and iniquitous Oral Law contributed to
inflame his wild lust of pelf, and to justify the crimes suggested by
spite and superstition."


DREISER, THEODORE. 20th century American writer.

    "New York to me is a scream - a Kyke's dream of a ghetto. The Lost
Tribe has taken the island. (Letter to H. L. Mencken, November 5, 1922)
"
    "Liberalism, in the case of the Jew, means internationalism. If you
listen to Jews discuss Jews, you will find they are mone-minded, very
sharp in practice. The Jews lack the fine integrity which at last is
endorsed, and to a certain degree followed, by lawyers of other
nationalities. The Jew has been in Germany for a thousand years, and he
is still a Jew. He has been in America for all of 200 years, and he has
not faded into a pure American by any means - and he will not. (Letter
to Hutchins Hapgood, The Nation magazine, April 17, 1935)"


WELLS, H. G. 20th century British writer.

    "The Jews looked for a special savior, a messiah, who was to redeem
mankind by the agreeable process of restoring the fabulous glories of
David and Solomon, and bringing the whole world at last under the firm
but benevolent Jewish heel." (The Outline of History)
    "Zionism is an expression of Jewish refusal to assimilate. If the
Jews have suffered, it is because they have regarded themselves as a
chosen people." (The Anatomy of Frustration)
    "A careful study of anti-Semitism prejudice and accusations might
be of great value to many Jews, who do not adequately realize the
irritations they inflict." (Letter of November 11, 1933)
    Wells was in the habit of referring to KARL MARX as "a shallow
third-rate Jew," and "a lousy Jew" in private correspondence. (Norman
MacKenzie, H. G. Wells)


LINDBERGH, CHARLES. 20th century American aviator, writer.
Wednesday, August 23, 1939

    "We are disturbed about the effect of the Jewish influence in our
press, radio and motion pictures. It may become very serious. [Fulton]
Lewis told us of one instance where the Jewish advertising firms
threatened to remove all their advertising from the Mutual system if a
certain feature were permitted to go on the air. The threat was
powerful enough to have the feature removed."

Thursday, May 1, 1941

    "The pressure for war is high and mounting. The people are opposed
to it, but the Administration seems to have 'the bit in its teeth' and
is hell-bent on its way to war. Most of the Jewish interests in the
country are behind war, and they control a huge part of our press and
radio and most of our motion pictures. There are the 'intellectuals'
and the 'Anglophiles,' and the British agents who are allowed free
rein, the international financial interests, and many others." (The
Wartime Journals)


GENERAL GEORGE VAN HORN MOSELY, in the New York Tribune, March 29, 1939

    "The war now proposed is for the purpose of establishing Jewish
influence throughout the world."


HERDER, JOHANN GOTTFRIED. 18th century German philosopher.

    "The Jewish people is and remains in Europe an Asiatic people alien
to our part of the world, bound to that old law which it received in a
distant climate, and which, according to its confession, it cannot do
away with...
    How many of this alien people can be tolerated without injury to
the true citizen?
    A ministry in which a Jew is supreme, a household in which a Jew
has the key of the wardrobe and the management of the finances, a
department or commissariat in which Jews do the principal business, are
Pontine marshes which cannot be drained. (Bekehrung der Juden)
    For thousands of years, since their emergence on the stage of
history, the Jews were a parasitic growth on the stem of other nations,
a race of cunning brokers all over the earth. They have cause great
evil to many ill-organized states, by retarding the free and natural
economic development of their indigenous population. ("Hebraer," in
Ideen)


BONAPARTE, NAPOLEON. French statesman, general.

    "The Jews provided troops for my campaign in Poland, but they ought
to reimburse me: I soon found that they are no good for anything but
selling old clothes..."
    "Legislating must be put in effect everywhere that the general
well-being is in danger. The government cannot look with indifference
on the way a despicable nation takes possession of all the provinces of
France. The Jews are the master robbers of the modern age; they are the
carrion birds of humanity... "They must be treated with political
justice, not with civil justice. They are surely not real citizens."
    "The Jews have practiced usury since the time of Moses, and
oppressed the other peoples. Meanwhile, the Christians were only rarely
usurers, falling into disgrace when they did so. We ought to ban the
Jews from commerce because they abuse it... The evils of the Jews do
not stem from individuals but from the fundamental nature of this
people." (From Napoleon's Reflections, and from speeches before the
Council of State on April 30 and May 7, 1806.)
    "Nothing more contemptible could be done than the reception of the
Jews by you. I decided to improve the Jews. But I do not want more of
them in my kingdom. Indeed, I have done all to prove my scorn of the
most vile nation in the world." (Letter to his brother Jerome, King of
Westphalia, March 6, 1808)
    (1) Every big and small Jew is the peddling trade must renew his
license every year.
    (2) Checks and other obligations are only redeemable if the Jew can
prove that he has obtained the money without cheating. (Ordinance of
March 17, 1808. Napoleonic Code.)


DE GAULLE, CHARLES. 20th century French politician. Addressing the
Zionist imbroglio in the Mideast in a news conference of November 27,
1967, he observed:

    "The Jews remain what they have been at all times: an elite people,
self-confident and domineering."


SAND, GEORGE (Amantine Dupin Dudevant). 19th century French novelist.

    "I saw in 'the wandering Jew' the personification of the Jewish
people, exiled in the Middle Ages. Nevertheless, they are once again
extremely rich, owing to their unfailing rude greediness and their
indefatigable activity. With their hard-heartedness that they extend
toward people of other faiths and races they are at the point of making
themselves kings of the world. This people can thank its obstinacy that
France will be Judized within fifty years. Already some wise Jews
prophesy this frankly." (Letter to Victor Lorie, 1857)


COMMUNITY OF STRASBOURG, FRANCE. In an address to the ASSEMBLEE in
1790, the city's revolutionary leaders opposed citizenship for Jews,
because:

    "Everyone knew the inherent bad character of the Jews and no one
doubted they were foreigners... Let the 'enlighteners' stop defaming
the Gentiles by blaming them for what is wrong with the Jews. Their
conduct is their own fault. Perhaps the Jews might eventually give up
every aspect of their separation and all the characteristics of their
nature. Let us sit and wait until that happens; we might them judge
them to be worthy of equality. (Tres Humble Adresse qui Presente la
Commune de la Ville Strasbourg)


ROBERTS, STEPHEN H. 20th century Australian historian. Though hostile
on almost every point to National Socialism, his The House that Hitler
Built does admit that Jews were a menace in Germany:

    "It is useless to deny that grave Jewish problems existed in
Germany. The nation was in the unfortunate geographical position of
being the first stage in the perennial push westward of the Polish
Jews. Unless forced on, they tended to stop in Berlin and Hamburg,
where they obtained an unduly share of good professional positions. In
Berlin, for example, when the Nazi came to power, 50.2 percent of the
lawyers were Jews. In medicine, 48 per cent of the doctors were Jews,
and it was said that they systematically seized the principal hospital
posts. The Jews owned the largest and most important Berlin newspapers,
and they had made great inroads on the educational system."


FRANCO, FRANCISCO. 20th century Spanish statesman. In his victory
speech in Madrid, on May 19, 1939, he declared:

    "Let us be under no illusion. The Jewish spirit, which was
responsible for the alliance of large-scale capital with Marxism and
was the driving force behind so many anti-Spanish revolutionary
agreements, will not be got rid of in a day."


PRIMO DE RIVERA, JOSE. 20th century Spanish political reformer
(assassinated by the Communists). He stressed that the instruments of
Jewish domination in the modern world are money and the press, and that
communism is an instrument of international Jewish capitalism used to
smash and afterwards rule the nations. (El Estado Nacional)

H. H. BEAMISH, in a New York address, October 30 - November 1, 1937

    "In 1848 the word "anti-Semitic" was invented by the Jews to
prevent the use of the word "Jew." The right word for them is "Jew" ...
    "I implore all of you to be accurate - call them Jews. There is no
need to be delicate on this Jewish question. You must face them in this
country. The Jew should be satisfied here. I was here forty-seven years
ago; your doors were thrown open to the Jews and they were free. No he
has got you absolutely by the throat - that is your reward."


CHRISTEA, PATRIARCH. 20th century Romanian prelate.

    "The Jews have caused an epidemic of corruption and social unrest.
They monopolize the press, which, with foreign help, flays all the
spiritual treasures of the Romanians. To defend ourselves is a national
and patriotic duty - not anti-Semitism. Lack of measures to get rid of
the plague would indicate that we are lazy cowards who let ourselves be
carried alive to our graves. Why should we not get rid of these
parasites who suck Romanian and Christian blood? It is logical and holy
to react against them." (New York Herald Tribune, August 17, 1937)


HOUSTON STEWART CHAMBERLAIN, world famed author of Foundations of the
Nineteenth Century, Vol. I, page 337

    "The revelation of Christ has no significance for the Jew! ... I
have searched through a whole library of Jewish books in the
expectation of finding - naturally not belief in the Divinity of
Christ, nor the idea of redemption, but the purely human feeling for
the greatness of suffering Savior - but in vain. A Jew who feels that,
is, in fact, no longer a Jew, but a denier of Judiasm. And while we
find, even in Mohammed's Koran, at least a vague conception of the
importance of Christ and profound reverence for His personality, a
cultured leading Jew of the nineteenth century (Graetz) calls Christ
"the new birth with the death mask," which inflicted new and painful
wounds upon the Jewish people; he cannot see anything else in Him. In
view of the Cross he assures us that "the Jews do not require this
convulsive emotion for their spiritual improvement," and adds,
"particularly not among the middle classes of inhabitants of the
cities." His comprehension goes further. In a book, republished in
1880, by a Spanish Jew (Mose de Leon) Jesus Christ is called a "dead
dog" that lies "buried in a dunghill." Besides, the Jews have taken
care to issue in the latter part of the nineteens century several
editions (naturally in Hebrew) of the so-called "censured passages"
>from the Talmud, those passages usually omitted in which Christ is
exposed to our scorn and hatred as a "fool," "sorcerer," "profane
person," "idolater," "dog," "bastard," "child of lust," etc.: so, too,
His sublime Mother."


ADRIEN ARCAND, Canadian political leader of the 1930s

    "Through their (Jew's) international news agencies, they mold your
minds and have you see the world not as it is, but as they want you to
see it. Through their cinema, they are the educators of our youth - and
with just one film in two hours, can wipe out of a child's brain what
he has learned in six months in the home, the church or the school."


NESTA WEBSTER, in her book Germany and England

    "England is no longer controlled by Britons. We are under the
invisible Jewish dictatorship - a dictatorship that can be felt in
every sphere of life."


HENRY WALLACE, Secretary of Commerce, under President Harry Truman,
wrote in his dairy that in 1946

    "Truman was "exasperated" over Jewish pressure that he support
Zionist rule over Palestine. Wallace added "Pres. Truman expressed
himself as being very much 'put out' with the Jews. He said that 'Jesus
Christ couldn't please them when he was here on Earth, so how could
anyone expect that I would have any luck?' Pres. Truman said he hand no
use for them and didn't care what happened to them."


WILLIAM JENNINGS BRYANT, three times the Democratic Party candidate for
President said:

    "New York is the city of privilege. Here is the seat of the
Invisible Power represented by the allied forces of finance and
industry. This Invisible Government is reactionary, sinister,
unscrupulous, mercenary, and sordid. It is wanting in national ideals
and devoid of conscience... This kind of government must be scourged
and destroyed."


HENRY ADAMS (Descendant of President John Adams), in a letter to John
Hay, October 1895

    "The Jewish question is really the most serious of our problems."


SPRING-RICE, SIR CECIL. 20th century British politician.

    "One by one, the Jews are capturing the principal newspapers of
America. (Letter of November 1914, to Sir Edward Grey, foreign
secretary. Letters and Friendships)


CAPOTE, TRUMAN. 20th century American writer. In an interview, he
assailed "the Zionist mafia" monopolizing publishing today, and
protested a tendency to suppress things that do not meet with Jewish
approval. (Playboy magazine, March 1968)

VOLTAIRE (Francois Marie Arouet) 18th century French philosopher,
writer.

    "Why are the Jews hated? It is the inevitable result of their laws;
they either have to conquer everybody or be hated by the whole human
race..."
    "The Jewish nation dares to display an irreconcilable hatred toward
all nations, and revolts against all masters; always superstitious,
always greedy for the well-being enjoyed by others, always barbarous -
cringing in misfortune and insolent in prosperity." (Essai sur le
Moeurs)
    "You seem to me to be the maddest of the lot. The Kaffirs, the
Hottentots, and the Negroes of Guinea are much more reasonable and more
honest people than your ancestors, the Jews. You have surpassed all
nations in impertinent fables in bad conduct and in barbarism. You
deserve to be punished, for this is your destiny." (From a letter to a
Jew who had written to him, complaining of his 'anti-Semitism.' Examen
des Quelques Objections... dans L'Essai sur le Moeurs.)
    "You will only find in the Jews an ignorant and barbarous people,
who for a long time have joined the most sordid avarice to the most
detestable superstition and to the most invincible hatred of all
peoples which tolerate and enrich them." ("Juif," Dictionnaire
Philosophique)
    "I know that there are some Jews in the English colonies. These
marranos go wherever there is money to be made... But whether these
circumcised who sell old clothes claim that they are of the tribe of
Naphtali or Issachar is not of the slightest importance. They are,
simply, the biggest scoundrels who have ever dirtied the face of the
earth." (Letter to Jean-Baptiste Nicolas de Lisle de Sales, December
15, 1773. Correspondance. 86:166)
    "They are, all of them, born with raging fanaticism in their
hearts, just as the Bretons and the Germans are born with blond hair. I
would not be in the least bit surprised if these people would not some
day become deadly to the human race." (Lettres de Memmius a Ciceron,
1771)


CANNOT, E. 19th century French reformer. In La Renovation, journal of
the socialist school of CHARLES FOURIER.

    "Jews! To the heights of your Sinai... I humbly lift myself. I
stand erect and cry out to you, in behalf of all my humble equals, of
all those whom your spoliation has brought to grief, who died in misery
through you and whose trembling shades accuse you: Jews! for Cain and
Iscariot, leave us, leave us! Ah, cross the Red Sea again, and go down
there to the desert, to the promised land which is waiting for you, the
only country fit for you; o you wicked, rude and dishonest people, go
there!!! ("Israel")



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The Jewishness of the Ukrainian Holocaust[HOLODOMOR]

Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat the same mistakes.

http://www.ukrweekly.com/Archive/1996/219621.shtml
(Link active February 10, 2001)

"Let the chips fall where they may. The inordinate role played by Jews in
bringing Bolshevism to power is certainly a topic worthy of further
exploration."

FACES AND PLACES

by Myron B. Kuropas
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ghostbusting in Ukraine

A funny thing. No sooner does my commentary on Communist ghosts appear in
The Ukrainian Weekly than Ukraine responds.

Any connection? In your dreams, Kuropas.

But it's reassuring to learn that 68 democrats in Ukraine's Parliament
have neither forgiven nor forgotten the ethnocide perpetrated by the
Bolsheviks against the Ukrainian people.

Led by Lev Lukianenko, Yevhen Proniuk and Les Taniuk, the 68
parliamentarians have established Nuremberg II. The purpose, reports
Chrystyna Lapychak in a May 6 story carried by the service UNIAR press, is
to organize a symbolic international trial on crimes committed by the
former Communist Party of the Soviet Union and the Communist Party of
Ukraine. "The legislators plan to use the caucus to collect evidence, hold
public hearings and conferences, and maintain links with parliaments of
other former Soviet republics," reads the release.

It's a brilliant move. Since it's probably unrealistic to assume that,
given the present dominance of the Communist nomenklatura, Ukraine will
soon, if ever, bring anyone to trial, it is at least possible to document
Ukraine's Bolshevik barbarism.

Ukraine needs to authenticate these historical antecedents in some formal
way. The recent past needs to be recorded in its entirety for three major
reasons:
1) to expose the bestial Bolshevik abominations in all their horror in the
hope that they will never be repeated (communism won't go away unless a
silver spike is driven through its wretched heart);
2) academics, both in Ukraine and elsewhere, seem to be shying away from
writing the truth about Ukraine's Bolshevik past;
3) Ukraine can no longer pretend that what transpired between 1920 and
1991 was a mere aberration in a long history. It wasn't. Before Ukraine
can be whole again, past realities, as painful as they may be, must be
addressed.

We in North America can assist Ukraine's ghostbusters in a number of ways.
Dr. Lev Dobriansky's proposal to establish a Holocaust-type museum that
could serve as a reminder of Communist malevolence is an idea worthy of
our support...

Publications in the English language are another way we in North America
can help. There are countless areas that could use the light of truth. We
could begin with the story behind the Russian Bolshevik invasion of
Ukraine, its forced incorporation into the USSR, and the subsequent
annihilation of hundreds of Ukraine's own nationally oriented Bolsheviks
as well as thousands of scholars, editors, teachers and others whose
loyalty to Ukraine superseded loyalty to Lenin and Stalin.

Let the chips fall where they may. The inordinate role played by Jews in
bringing Bolshevism to power is certainly a topic worthy of further
exploration.

Another aspect of this early Bolshevik period was the total destruction of
the Ukrainian Autocephalous Orthodox Church, which resulted in Siberian
exile or death for thousands of priests and prelates. This history has yet
to be written.

The famine, of course, also requires further research. Yes, there already
are excellent publications on the famine, but we need more. There are
hundreds of books on the Jewish Holocaust. There should also be hundreds
of books on the Ukrainian famine, a malefaction that has no equal in world
history.

There are some excellent books on the killing fields of Vinnytsia as well,
but more documentation is required. We know that in 1943, approximately
9,000 Soviet citizens were found buried in mass graves in the Ukrainian
city of Vinnytsia. It was later established that they were executed by the
Bolsheviks during the years 1937 and 1938. Significantly, none of the
persons killed had been sentenced to death. "In cases where an official
conviction could be linked to a victim," writes Ihor Kamenetsky in "The
Tragedy of Vinnytsia," "either through documentary evidence or on the
basis of the testimony by relatives, the maximum sentence was a term of 10
years' confinement in a labor camp with the denial of the right to
correspondence."

There is also testimony available regarding Soviet butchery of Ukrainian
nationalists as the Germans were approaching the city of Lviv in June of
1941. Unable to evacuate the thousands of prisoners incarcerated following
the Soviet occupation of Galicia, thousands of Ukrainians were simply
massacred in their cells.

The destruction of the Ukrainian Catholic Church by Soviet authorities and
the murder and deportation of thousands of Ukrainian clergy and laity is
still another subject requiring more research. Members of the underground
Church are still alive and could provide excellent testimony.

There are other crimes, some hardly known or mentioned, that need to be
exposed by Nuremberg II and by others. We can't pretend that Bolshevism
was one, big, misguided but well-intentioned error. 'Mistakes" were made,
we are told by devotees of socialism, but the goal was an honorable one.
This is the kind of spin the Left in America is already putting on the
collapse of the Soviet Union.

In an article titled "Socialism Would Strengthen the Republic's
Economies," for example, Mike Davidow argues that it was not socialism
that destroyed the Soviet empire but "retrogression," which was largely
the result of "ideological disorientation." Socialism in the USSR
"constituted a higher state in the progress of mankind," he writes. Mr.
Davidow mourns the Soviet demise because the Bolsheviks played "a
progressive role on the world scene for seven decades" and had "a positive
influence on social development." Mr. Davidow and others like him are one
more reason for setting the record straight.

Once again our community has an obligation to remind the world that no
people, not even the Jews, suffered more during the 20th century than the
Ukrainians....



More on Bolshevism and the Jewish role in slaughtering Ukrainians etc.

http://www2.h-net.msu.edu/~german/discuss/goldhagen/wagner.html
(Link active February 10, 2001)

EXCERPTED



Hitler's Willing Executioners, Ordinary Germans and the Holocaust, by
Daniel Jonah Goldhagen, NY: Alfred A. Knopf, 1996

by: Roland M. Wagner Ph.D., San Jose State University. June 23, 1996
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Understanding Goldhagen: his moral agenda

[...]

While Goldhagen is certainly correct that the Nazi propaganda ministry
demonized the Jews, he is overlooking a factor of great importance by
dismissing everything as being a mere "hallucination." Propaganda becomes
especially potent when it builds on elements of truth. The Nazis were able
to capitalize on the fact that many Jews did play important roles in the
Communist leadership, and Jews comprised a disproportionate number of the
local party officialdom in the Ukraine, Lithuania, Latvia, and other
areas. Peter Lawrence, in his article "Why Lithuania?" points out that in
Byelosrussia the Jews comprised about 8 percent of the population, and
while only 6.2 percent were members of the Communist party they comprised
23.2 percent of Party Committees at the district level. Nazi estimates for
the Soviet Union (cited on p. 49 in The Einsatzgruppen Reports edited by
Yitzhak Arad et al , 1989), were that the Jews comprised 1.77% of the
general population, 5.2% of the Communist party membership, 25.7% of the
party's Central Committee, and 36.8% of the Politburo, with the latter
percentage rising to 42.9% by the end of Lenin's era. In other words, Jews
had greater public visibility within the Communist bureaucracy, greatly
exceeding their percentage of the population....

Compounding the deadly intensity of this image, the Germans and the
peoples of Eastern Europe were well aware that the Soviet government had
launched ruthless pogroms of genocidal proportion against various ethnic
groups in the Soviet Union. World concern was aroused during the 1920s and
1930s when millions of Ukrainians and Volksdeutsch died as a result of the
deliberate Soviet policy to exterminate these ethnic groups through mass
starvation. The Ukrainians initially hailed the German troops as
liberators who would remove the Bolshevik yoke from their backs. Nazi
propaganda was relentless in its message: either victory, or total slavery
under the Jewish Bolsheviks.

While Goldhagen acknowledges on p. 393 the link drawn by the Nazi
propagandists between Bolshevism and World Zionism, he fails to emphasize
the crucial importance of this belief. Rather than focusing on how German
fears were aroused by rampant Communism in the east (an historically
specific, "situational" factor), he prefers to focus on the deep,
long-term historical roots of hallucinatory anti-Semitism, to which he
devotes an entire section of his book....



http://www.ajc.org/pre/russian.htm#russian
(Link active February 10, 2001)

EXCERPTED




Russian Jewish Elites And Anti-Semitism
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Twice in their history, Russian Jews have been associated in the public
mind with the ruling elite. During the early period of Bolshevism, Jews
played prominent roles in the ruling Communist Party and in the economic,
cultural, and academic life of the young Soviet state. Then, after the
collapse of communism in 1991, Jews again achieved influential positions
in politics as well as in the private sector, especially the media...

On the other hand, the presence of Jews in the Russian elite is cause for
concern among Jews themselves, who fear a backlash of anti-Semitism. As
one Russian Jewish leader has explained, “People here have quite bitter
memories of the participation of Jews in the [Bolshevik] revolution.”

Jews in Soviet Elites, 1917-88
------------------------------------------------------------------------

. Jews flooded into Russia’s economic, political, and cultural life. At
the same time, in proportions quite exceeding their percentage in the
general population of the Russian Empire, they played a highly visible
role in various movements hostile to the existing order-as liberal critics
of the autocratic regime, as Marxists, or as active exponents of
revolutionary terrorism.

After the fall of czarism and the establishment of Bolshevik rule, legal
discrimination against minorities was ended. Scores of Jews became
prominently involved in the destruction of the old regime and the
construction of the new society. Among the first echelon of leaders of the
new Russia were a number of Jews and individuals of Jewish origin.
Outstanding among these were Lev Trotsky (Bronstein), Grigory Zinovyev
(Radomyslskiy), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld), Yakov Sverdlov. There were also
some Jews in the second echelon: Moisey Uritskiy, Adolf Yoffe, Karl Radek
(Sobelson), Grigory Sokolnikov (Briliant), Yuri Steklov (Nekhamkes). These
Jewish Bolsheviks were not especially interested in Jewish matters and in
fact were Jewish only by accident of birth or because they were so
identified in their papers.....

To some Russians it appeared that Jews had taken over the country. Given
the total absence of Jews in the bureaucracy before 1917, their presence
among the state and party leadership and their prominence in the Soviet
military and secret police during the first years of Bolshevik rule
confirmed this impression......

When in the mid-1920s Stalin mounted a campaign against his major
opponents inside the party-a group that was labeled the “left opposition”
and included such prominent Jewish Bolsheviks as Trotsky, Kamenev, and
Zinovyev-his propaganda was spiced with thinly veiled anti-Semitism. In
October 1926 Trotsky, Kamenev, and Zinovyev were deprived of all their
posts in the party’s upper echelon, marking the beginning of the end of
Jewish prominence within the Soviet political elite.

[...]



http://www.ukar.org/shapov01.shtml
(Link active February 10, 2001)

EXCERPTED



Terms of a truce: Were I authorized to represent the Ukrainian position in
negotiating with Jews a cessation of verbal hostilities, I might open with
"If you stop fabricating lies about us, we will stop disclosing the truth
about you."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Prytulak   Cheka-GPU-NKVD in Ukraine   25May98   Jewish conquest of the
Slavs
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Shapoval volume, then, provides us with one such reason why some
Ukrainian anti-Semitism might exist. The reason is that Ukrainians have
been aware of the Jewish domination of the experiment in government
through mass murder which went under the name of "Communism," and in which
experiment Ukrainians more than any other peoples have been conscripted
into playing the role of guinea pigs.

Jewish Conquest of the Slavs

The Shapoval volume.  The analyses that I present below are based on
information in the following book written in Ukrainian, with some of its
documentation presented in Russian:

Yuri Shapoval, Volodymyr Prystaiko, and Vadym Zolotariov, Cheka-GPU-NKVD
in Ukraine: People, Facts, Documents, Abris, Kyiv, 1997.

For the sake of brevity, I will refer to the above book as "the Shapoval
volume."

Sponsorship.  It is possibly highly significant that this book was
sponsored by the following:

National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine
M. S. Hrushevsky Institute
of Ukrainian Archaeography and Fontology
Security Service of Ukraine

----------------------------

Nationalities in the Cheka-GPU-NKVD. One may summarize my chief finding
with this succinct approximation:

Out of every 10 senior members
of the Cheka-GPU-NKVD in Ukraine:
6 were Jewish,
2 were Russian,
1 was Ukrainian, and
1 was other.

Latvians.  Latvians led in the "other" category.  More specifically:
NATIONALITY                  NUMBER INVOLVED         PERCENTAGE
Jewish=92 + Father Jewish=1        93                     58.1
Russian                            34                     21.3
Ukrainian                          15                      9.4
Latvian (M)=6 + (F)=1               7                      4.4
Belarusian                          3                      1.9
Polish                              2                      1.3
Polish/German                       1                       .6
Armenian                            1                       .6
Georgian                            1                       .6
German                              1                       .6
Lithuanian                          1                       .6
Moldovan                            1                       .6

Total known nationality           160                      100
Unknown nationality                23
Total                             183

Almost no mixed parentage.  Given that the authors noted the instance in
which only the father was Jewish, it would appear that there are no other
instances of known mixed parentage in this sample.

Almost no females.  In Ukrainian, the word for "a Latvian person" comes in
masculine and feminine versions, and thus it was possible to note upon no
more than seeing their nationality stated that six of the Latvians were
male and one female.  But as all the other nationality names also come in
two versions, then it would also have been possible to note the presence
of a female in them as well, which however I failed to do.  Thus, in the
sample of 160 for which nationalities were specified, there appears to be
only a single female.  The Cheka-GPU-NKVD in Ukraine, then, appears to
have been a male-dominated occupation.

Possible under-estimate of Jewish participation.  The "Polish/German"
above refers to a single official who was inconsistent in identifying his
nationality on various documents, sometimes stating Polish and sometimes
German.  Two possibilities come to mind: first, that neither of these is
his true nationality; second, that other officials may have misrepresented
their nationality more consistently and thus avoided detection.  More
specifically, as Jews commonly assumed non-Jewish names and concealed
their Jewish identity, it is possible that the above statistics constitute
an under-estimate of Jewish presence in the Cheka-GPU-NKVD.

The Shapoval volume offers some evidence in confirmation of this
hypothesis.  That is, in listing the names of the 183 Cheka-GPU-NKVD
officials, when the official used more than one name or changed his name,
Shapoval included the aliases in parentheses.  The number of names
containing parentheses was 20.  Of these, 14 were Jewish, 3 Latvian, 1
Russian, 1 German, and 1 unknown.  Thus, it would appear that the changing
of names was overwhelmingly a Jewish phenomenon.  Furthermore, my
impression is that the name changes tended to be in the direction of
making the names less Jewish and more Slavic, though as this conclusion
requires the exercise of judgment, and as in several cases I did not trust
my judgment, I do not here quantify the direction of the name changes.
Four examples of names that seemed to go from Jewish to Slavic were:

EARLIER JEWISH NAME                       LATER SLAVIC NAME
Holovanivskyi Bernard Volfovych       Kozelskyi Borys Volodymyrovych
Podolsky Davyd Vulfovych              Orlov Danylo Volodymyrovych
Izrail Moiseiovych Radzivilovskyi     Oleksandr Pavlovych
Rosenbardt Abram Borysovych Rozanov   Oleksandr Borysovych

Declining to guess nationality from name?   Among the 23 for whom
nationality was not specified, I noticed a few cases in which nationality
might be inferred from the name alone.  For example, although no
nationality was specified for Solomon Isaakovych Goldman, one might
venture to guess that he is more likely Jewish than Russian or Ukrainian.
I conclude that either the authors had independent evidence concerning
Goldman's nationality but failed to specify it as an oversight, or else
that they had insufficient biographical data to infer nationality, and
followed the general rule of declining to do so from name only.  Of course
if the Shapoval authors declined to guess that Solomon Isaakovych Goldman
was Jewish, then I decline to do so as well, leaving him uncategorized
with respect to nationality.

[...]

A minor paradox resolved.  It should go without saying that even if the
Communist Revolution was controlled mostly by Jews, it does not follow
that most Jews were either Communists or revolutionaries.  Rather, many
writers go out of their way to comment that only a minority of Jews
supported Bolshevism, most were indifferent, and some opposed it.  Thus,
although in the first of the pair of quotations below, we see Hilaire
Belloc unequivocally placing responsibility for the Russian Revolution at
the feet of the Jews, yet in the second of the pair of quotations we find
him unequivocally exonerating Jews in general from blame — a seeming
paradox which a little thought demonstrates contains no contradiction:

It was the pure despotism of a clique, the leaders of which had been
specially launched upon Russia under German direction in order to break
down any chance of a revival of Russian military power, and all those
leaders, without exception, were Jews, or held by the Jews through their
domestic relations, and all that followed was done directly under the
orders of Jews, the most prominent of whom was one Braunstein, who
disguised himself under the assumed name of Trotsky.  A terror was set up,
under which were massacred innumerable Russians of the governing classes,
so that the whole framework of the Russian State disappeared.  Among
these, of course, must specially be noted great numbers of the clergy,
against whom the Jewish revolutionaries had a particular grudge.  A clean
sweep was made of all the old social organization, and under the despotism
of this Jewish clique the old economic order was reversed.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
(Hilaire Belloc, The Jews, 1937, p. 58)

For the Bolshevist movement, or rather explosion, was Jewish.

That truth may be so easily confused with a falsehood that I must, at the
outset, make it exact and clear.

The Bolshevist Movement was a Jewish movement, but not a movement of the
Jewish race as a whole.  Most Jews were quite extraneous to it; very many
indeed, and those of the most typical, abhor it; many actively combat it.
The imputation of its evils to the Jews as a whole is a grave injustice
and proceeds from a confusion of thought whereof I, at any rate, am free.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
(Hilaire Belloc, The Jews, 1937, p. 55)

Jews present obstacle to the rule of law in Ukraine.  One of Ukraine's
most pressing needs today is to demonstrate the rule of law by punishing
the most egregious violations of the law — namely torture, murder,
genocide.  To the degree that the number of the guilty and the weakness of
the law make this unfeasible, Ukraine then needs more than anything else
to at least implement a Truth and Reconciliation Commission paralleling
the Truth and Reconciliation Commission so wisely instituted in South
Africa.  However, there is one huge obstacle standing in the way either of
the punishment of the guilty or of inducing them to confess.  That
obstacle is that a disproportionate number of the accused, or of those
revealed to have committed crimes, might turn out to be Jews, with the
result that Ukraine would be portrayed by a mindless world press as having
gone on an anti-Semitic rampage.  Thus, one way that Jews continue to harm
Ukraine today is by standing in the way of Ukraine demonstrating the power
of its law to bring its torturers and its butchers to account, or the
power of its righteousness to command its torturers and its butchers to at
least confess....

.. The Shapoval volume provides us with one such reason why some
Ukrainian anti-Semitism might exist.  The reason is that Ukrainians have
been aware of the Jewish domination of the experiment in government
through mass murder which went under the name of "Communism," and in which
experiment Ukrainians more than any other peoples have been conscripted
into playing the role of guinea pigs.

Terms of a truce.  Were I authorized to represent the Ukrainian position
in negotiating with Jews a cessation of verbal hostilities, I might open
with "If you stop fabricating lies about us, we will stop disclosing the
truth about you."




If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
is a revolutionary act."
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.

Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late
nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
work:(780)492-0473


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
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Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
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people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
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On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 05:23:05 -0600, Slawlo@webtv.net (Slawko),  in wrote:

>Its pretty hard to find people on SCU to give any support or sympathy to
>Ukrainian people.
>If you notice how many responses you get when someone post-writes
>something about Ukraine. 
>To many people on SCU keep on posting something that there is no
>connection of any kind to Ukraine or Ukrainians.
>This makes them very happy because they know it will chase Ukrainians
>away from here.
>And its very clear to see what their motif is.

>To make Ukrainians look bad on their own NG.  And they are very happy. 
>



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From: The Truth Seeker 
Subject: 51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 12:53:13 +0000 (UTC)

51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis.
[Not forgetting KASTNER, RUMKOWSKI and WIESENTHAL]

By Lenni Brenner

Lenni Brenner has collated documents that relate to how the Zionist movement
collaborated with German Nazism and Italian Fascism. Given the subsequent
Holocaust against the Jews by the Nazis, many will be surprised and appalled
that a political movement, which supposedly supported Jewish liberation, was
prepared to collaborate with the most anti-semitic of regimes.

Among the documents is the relatively well known and infamous ŒStern Gang
Proposal¹ in which the organisation of future Israeli PM Yitzhak Shamir offers
to join in WWII on Œthe side of the German Reich¹. There is also the
embarrassing documents of the German Zionists who saw the Nazis as fellow
nationalists and were thus sympathetic to ŒGerman national renewal¹, the
memoirs of an SS officer who stays in Palestine as the guest of the Zionist
movement for 6 months.

These acts of collaboration were not limited to the right wing fringe of the
Zionist movement but went to the heart of the Zionist Labour establishment
when the head of the Haganah, Feival Polkes, became a willing paid informer of
the Gestapo. He was even handled by one of the architects of the Final
Solution, Adolf Eichmann, who also travelled to Palestine to liaise with the
Zionists.

These shocking historical documents will make you realise that the history of
the political movement which founded the state of Israel is not quite what it
seems.

They also prove that Zionists will do *anything* to protect their precious
political movement, even if it means sacrificing several million Jews in the
process, then exploiting their suffering to secure the greater goal of a
Zionist State.

The Truth Seeker has spoken.


On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 11:08:04 -0700, Ken McVayAIDS/SOB  wrote:
>Reply-To: "George" ,
>PRAWDA!
>
>On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:14:47 -0700, Heinrich Himmelfarb
> wrote:
>
>>The story documented below means that the KASTNER CASE was not an
>>isolated incident!!
>
>Now even Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to be a Nazi GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!
>
>
>>On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:25:52 GMT, c@c.cc wrote:
>>> 51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis  
>
>>>September 2004, page 86 
>
>>>Book Review
>
>>>51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis
>>>By Lenni Brenner, ed. Barricade Books, 2002, 342 pp. List: $22; AET:
>>>$15.
>
>>>Reviewed by Sara Powell
>>>It’s no secret that Zionism embraced political expediency to advance
>>>the cause of carving Eretz-Israel from the land of its native
>>>inhabitants. In his 1983 book, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators,
>>>Lenni Brenner shows that 20th century Zionists observed shockingly few
>>>limits to that expediency. Not surprisingly, the book received little
>>>coverage in the American media. Now, in 51 Documents, Brenner has
>>>compiled a wide variety of letters, statements, articles, and
>>>judgements—some of which appeared in his earlier book—by a broad array
>>>of activists and authors, that documents Zionist cooperration with the
>>>Nazis. On the face of it, the notion seems absurd. However, Brenner
>>>presents the case—made in many Zionists’ own words—that the Nazi
>>>agenda of expelling the Jews from Germany fit nicely with the Zionist
>>>plan for enticing those Jews into settling in Palestine and creating a
>>>new Jewish nation. 
>>>
>>>In addition to introductory and concluding chapters, the book is
>>>organized into five sections which lead the reader through early,
>>>pre-Zionist documents; pre-Holocaust ideological factions; the
>>>Holocaust era itself; and a chapter on the Stern Gang and the Nazis.
>>>Readers should note that a few documents are not indicative of
>>>collaboration in and of themselves, but provide the background to
>>>others written in response. These latter do indicate levels of
>>>collaboration between Zionists and fascists, both the Nazis in
>>>Germany, and those in Mussolini’s Italy. Brenner’s brief explanatory
>>>notes at the beginning of each document are helpful, as are the
>>>glossary and index.
>>>
>>>51 Documents assumes a certain knowledge of Zionist history, and
>>>requires a close reading and some deconstructive efforts on the part
>>>of the reader. Those willing to commit the time and effort, however,
>>>are rewarded with some stunning revelations. The reason some Zionists
>>>eschewed the boycott against Hitler’s Germany, for instance, is that
>>>they had a financial deal—Ha’avara—with Germany allowing Jews to
>>>exchange their wealth for goods to be exported to Palestine at less of
>>>a loss, as an incentive to emigrate. Those wondering why Zionists
>>>today are so organized and experienced in their public relations
>>>efforts discover that these battles have been fought before. Moreover,
>>>the section on Nazi and Zionist understandings of “nationality” versus
>>>citizenship reveals how German and Israeli practices are based on the
>>>same concept. 
>>>
>>>51 Documents also sheds a whole new light on the term “Holocaust
>>>guilt,” frequently understood to mean Western, non-Jewish guilt for
>>>not acting against the Holocaust earlier. However, these documents
>>>make it clear that Holocaust guilt began with those Zionists who made
>>>the undoubtedly difficult, but politically expedient choice to place
>>>Eretz-Israel at the top of their priorities, above the lives of their
>>>threatened European brethren.
>>>
>>>From a Zionist Executive Meeting speech by Yitzhak Gruenbaum on Feb.
>>>18, 1943:
>>>
>>>And when some asked me: “Can’t you give money from Keren Ha Yesod
>>>(Palestine Foundation Fund) to save Jews in the Diaspora?” I said:
>>>“No!” And again I say no....And, because of these things, people
>>>called me an anti-Semite, and concluded that I’m guilty, for the fact
>>>that we don’t give ourselves completely to rescue actions. (p. 211)
>>>
>>>However difficult it may be, the reader must confront some rather
>>>disturbing conclusions. The most unsettling realization for this
>>>reviewer is that pre-Holocaust Zionists were able to politically align
>>>themselves with the Nazis because both groups fundamentally saw race
>>>as an important dividing line—and, moreover, were determined to keep
>>>it that way. From Vladimir Jabotinsky to Albert Einstein,
>>>“assimilation” of Jews into the societies in which they lived was not
>>>an acceptable option. Rather, Jewish nationalism required equality on
>>>a national level, not a personal one. As Jabotinsky explained, “It is
>>>impossible for a man to become assimilated with people whose blood is
>>>different from his own” (p. 10); in Einstein’s words, “Palestine is
>>>first and foremost not a refuge for East European Jews, but the
>>>incarnation of a reawakening sense of national solidarity” (p. 29).
>>>Finally, David Yisraeli, a member of the Stern Gang, wrote the
>>>following in late 1940, as part of a proposal to Hitler. It was
>>>delivered in 1941 to two German diplomats in Lebanon.
>>>
>>>3. The establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and
>>>totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would be
>>>in the interest of a maintained and strengthened future German
>>>position of power in the Near East (p. 301).
>>>
>>>Such beliefs, of course, were not limited to Nazis and Zionists.
>>>Scientific and philosophical constructs of the day considered such
>>>differentiation legitimate, and ideas of racial difference—and,
>>>therefore, racial supremacy—were practiced around the world.
>>>
>>>Another disturbing conclusion a reader must inevitably face is that
>>>Zionists learned both tactical and political lessons from the Nazis
>>>and that, even today, these lessons are applied to further the Zionist
>>>cause. Although most likely known to potential readers of this book,
>>>another disturbing element is the cover-up of the less than savory
>>>roles of current Israeli leaders, including former prime ministers, in
>>>the terrorist Irgun and Stern Gang just before, during, and after the
>>>Holocaust. Likewise, the succumbing of various U.S. officials to
>>>Zionist pressure is a familiar, but distressing, story.
>>>
>>>51 Documents seems to represent a renewed attempt by Brenner to bring
>>>information regarding Zionist collaboration with the Nazis to U.S.
>>>supporters of Israel, as well as to Jews and Muslims, in order to
>>>expand dialogue with knowledge, and save lives—both Palestinian and
>>>Israeli—in the process. Readers of 51 Documents will find it difficult
>>>not to remove the rose colored glasses that so many seem to wear when
>>>examining Zionism.
>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
>is a revolutionary act." 
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages. 
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant
>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
>is a revolutionary act." 
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages. 
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant
>
>
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>1-713-266-7764
>
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>1836 NW 11th St
>Oklahoma City, OK 73106
>(405) 524-0576
>
>together with
>Boris Dynin  = NAMBLA executive & 
>Henry 
>CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even 
>VISIT me at:
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>
>We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>
>
>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>office: VISIT at:
>#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>or call: 1-250-616-9431
>
>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
>called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
>should give an indication as to the why.
>
>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>
>Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked"?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>
>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
>to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>
>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late
>nights.
>
>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
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>work:(780)492-0473
>
>And also: George Firestone: "George" 
>
>Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!
>
>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com
>
>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>IHR - www.ihr.org
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
>
>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>
>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>
>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>
>In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>for many years around the world.


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Reply to: JoeBlough@operamail.com

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Subject: All Things Are Mortal But the Jew/ZYD - Unsere Unglueck Sind die verfluechte Juden
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Not only Mark Twain, the world-renowned author has commented on the cursed
Jews.

Who originated the expression: "unser Unglueck sind die Juden!"

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 20:01:29 GMT, "Arens Troyanovich"  wrote:
He,he, dobre, p. R. co?

"All things are mortal but the Jew; all other forces pass, but he 
remains. What is the secret of his immortality?" Mark Twain, 1899

Seymour Liebman states: "The question of whether anti-Semitism is 
necessary for the survival of Judaism is often raised in connection with 
the dissolution or disappearance of Jewish communities. It is a valid 
question to apply to the New World colonial Jewish communities and 
groups." Stephen Sharot writes: "...where the religion of the dominant 
group is tolerant of other faiths, the members of the minority faith are 
more susceptible to acculturation and assimilation. Where the faith of 
the dominant group is doctrinaire or insular, it causes the members of 
the minority faith to evaluate the validity and 'superiority' of their 
own faith... they then seek a greater dedication to it and insulate 
their religious lives. Another factor that contributes to the tendency 
to acculturate is the size of the minority group. "Comparatively small 
numbers and a lack of communication with other Jewish communities... 
make a community particularly malleable to its ... environment." This 
partially explains the decline of Jewish communities in Mexico, Central 
America and South America from 1710 to 1825. It seems that when 
persecuted, Jews will fight back and try to survive as Jews no matter 
what the price. Unfortunately, when left alone and free to practice 
their faith, many Jews assimilate. Looking back at the tremendous 
efforts of our ancestors to survive during hardships, I can't help but 
analyze our present day lives. We enjoy freedom to practice our faith, 
we live comfortable lives among our gentile neighbors. Sometimes, it's 
easy to forget our Judaism to a certain extent. I feel our greatest 
challenge today is to survive as Jews in this free world. We owe this to 
honor the memory of so many martyrs.
http://www.sefarad.org/publication/lm/037/6.html

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
John Bryant

TOLERANCE is a virtue of a man WITHOUT convictions.
G. K. Chesterton.


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.



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On 27 Nov 2005 16:19:47 -0800, "Ariadne" wrote:
>Jason P wrote:
>> By Paula Amann

>> Washington Jewish Week/Jewsweek - 2001

>> http://www.jewsweek.com/society/059.htm

>> They come to Israel from the Ukraine, Russia, and Moldova looking for
>> freedom. Instead they are sold as sex slaves. And you thought Israel
>> was holy.

>> Jewsweek.com | Their names are Natalya, Oxana or Svetlana. They come to
>> Israel, as immigrants do, for a better life. But their dreams of
>> working as a waitress, nurse, or au pair turn nightmarish upon their
>> arrival.

>> Their fellow countryman who met them at the airport, speaking the
>> language of home, takes them to a locked apartment with barred windows
>> and a phone that only takes incoming calls, where they are forced to
>> provide sexual services to strangers.

>> Those who rebel risk being raped, beaten, or starved. Even those who
>> knew they were going into prostitution are shocked by the stark
>> conditions, the pay of roughly 20 shekalim ($5) a day or less for their
>> labor.

>> This disturbing story unfolds all too often at the hotline for Migrant
>> Workers, a Tel Aviv agency founded in 1998 to protect the human rights
>> of foreign workers, victims of sex trafficking among them. The hotline
>> takes as its motto the familiar line from Exodus 22:20: "You shall not
>> wrong a stranger or oppress him, for you were strangers in the land of
>> Egypt."

>> Agency director and co-founder Sigal Rozen, along with the group's
>> counsel, Nomi Levenkron, were in Washington, D.C., last week to give a
>> lecture at the Johns Hopkins Nitze School of Advanced International
>> Studies, to network and to speak with supporters. Among them are the
>> New Israel Fund, which has given the hotline a total of $19,000 during
>> the past year and a half.

>> In an interview, Rozen called sex trafficking an "unorganized crime,"
>> based largely on personal networks of immigrants from the Ukraine,
>> Russia, and Moldova.

>> "... "It's easier being a trafficker than being a plumber ..."   --Nomi
>> Levenkron

>> Those three countries alone accounted for 91 percent of the 474 women
>> arrested in brothels and deported from Israel in 2000, according to
>> figures compiled by hotline volunteers during visits to the Neveh
>> Tirzah women's prison.

>> These statistics represent only a fraction of the problem. Police
>> spokespersons have set the number of women brought into the country to
>> work in the sex industry at 2,000-3,000 annually, the number of
>> brothels at 250, Rozen said.

>> "It's Misha that knows Sasha that knows Vladimir," added Levenkron,
>> noting the economic incentive to be a pimp or work with one. "It's
>> easier being a trafficker than being a plumber."

>> One day she got a phone call from a rape crisis center where a woman
>> pleaded to be arrested and deported.

>> This young Moldovian had twice tried to escape her pimp and at 18, was
>> burned out on prostitution and just wanted to go home.

>> "She's so young and sweet," reflected Levenkron. "She came to Israel to
>> be a waitress."

>> A year ago this month, Israel passed the Law Against Trafficking Women.
>> Before that time, other laws existed against soliciting, pimping, and
>> running brothels.

>> Yet hotline staff point out that few pimps involved in trafficking ever
>> face a judge, with the majority of prostitutes deported without ever
>> facing a trial that might involve their testimony against their pimps.
>> Out of 459 women deported in 1998, only 35 cases went to trial; out of
>> 253 in 1999, a scant five ended up in the courtroom.

>> Judicial indifference is compounded by police complicity, Levenkron
>> argued.

>> The 18-year-old Moldovian, it turned out, had at one point in her
>> misadventures, found herself in a Tel Aviv police station where some of
>> the officers, who were her clients, recognized her and moved to call
>> her pimp.

>> Overhearing their plans, the woman fled and moved in with a
>> client-turned-boyfriend.

>> But somehow the pimp found her again, threatened the boyfriend. The
>> young woman, with no place to go, went back to the brothel. Now the
>> case hangs in the courts, where Levenkron has faint hopes for a
>> positive outcome.

>> The police role in such trafficking ranges from casual to highly
>> serious, she alleged.

>> "There are police who just come as clients, those who get special
>> discounts because of their good relationships with the owner of the
>> place and those that inform the owner about police operations,"
>> explained Levenkron.

>> One young Beersheva prostitute told the attorney she was forced to work
>> seven days a week unless a police raid was expected.

>> Widespread fear of violence from pimps has muted the public outcry, say
>> hotline staff. When Levenkron filed a suit on behalf of a
>> Beersheva-based woman, a 20-year-old Moldovian who had survived six
>> pimps and multiple rapes, several of the lawyer's friends came to her
>> home to bid her a final farewell, in anticipation of her imminent
>> death, she said.

>> INTERNATIONAL PROBLEM

>> Worldwide, trafficking in persons for domestic service, forced labor,
>> and prostitution ranks third after drugs and guns among the activities
>> of international crime, according to a congressional service report
>> released May 10, 2000. For comparison, about 50,000 people are brought
>> to the United States annually, the report stated.

>> The rise in trafficking seen over the 1990s was fueled by feeble
>> economies in source countries, such as the former Soviet Union and
>> Southeast Asia, along with weak penalties for traffickers, said a
>> government official familiar with these issues.

>> Last October, the United States passed its own law addressing this
>> problem, the Victims of Trafficking and Violence Protection Act, which
>> calls on the State Department to report annually on the scope of
>> trafficking in various countries and measures taken to combat it. The
>> report was due for release on June 1, but its publication has been
>> delayed.

>> In Israel today, official policy on trafficking is to arrest and deport
>> foreign sex workers. The women are held for an average of 30 days under
>> crowded and sometimes harsh conditions, longer if they testify in court
>> against their pimps, according to hotline data.

>> Rozen and Levenkron take issue with this approach. "Deporting women
>> doesn't make things better," said Levenkron. "I'm tired of shouting
>> this all over Israel so I've come here [to the United States] to shout
>> about it."

>> Rozen contends that a one-year work permit in specified fields such as
>> home health care or child care, before their return home, would put the
>> former prostitutes in a stronger position to take care of themselves.

>> Gruesome albeit unsubstantiated stories abound, she says, about revenge
>> attacks on returning women and their families by the original
>> trafficker in the home country.

>> A nest egg from a year's legitimate work, Rozen suggests, would allow
>> victims to re-establish themselves in a new community and stay out of
>> the clutches of traffickers in the future.

>> Meanwhile, Levenkron is seeking professional back-up in her job
>> representing the victims of trafficking.

>> "I am the [hotline] legal department," laments Levenkron. "We need
>> lawyers and we need public awareness."



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On TV, reporters are complaining about the fact that GEKO never did build the
facility in Edmonton, Canada, which was supposed to cost C$32 Million!!

Man muss wundern, wer hat $32 Millionen Geld, wenn es kein Plant gibt?
Ist $32 MILLIONEN  verschwunden?

On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 13:23:37 -0700, Ariadne  wrote:

>In a half page headline story in the Edmonton Journal today in December, the
>report complains that even after more than 3 years, THERE IS STILL NOT EVEN
>THE START OF CONSTRUCTION OF THE GEKO GARBAGE COMPUTER 
>RECYCLING PLANT IN EDMONTON,CANADA!!

>Because of the non-existence of the GEKO recycling plant, there is now 3235
>tonnes of computers piled at the site. This has caused criticism from the
>Electronic Recycling Corporation of Alberta, who recycle usable computers for
>charities. They see the waste of usable computers in the open air stockpiles,
>in mud and water because GEKO is not functioning, as being against the best
>interests of the public, and charities.

>Dieter Obergfell, of GEKO, explaining from Essen, , now claims that
>construction MIGHT start this August, 3 years later than originally proposed.

>From: Ken Levi 
>Newsgroups:
>de.soc.wirtschaft,de.soc.politik.misc,soc.culture.german,soc.culture.germany
>Subject: Re: GEKO-Who Is Pocketing Extra $28 MILLION?? WER
>PROFITIERT,Bundesfinanzamt?
>Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:28:28 -0700

>When GEKO claims that they will be spending more than 10 TIMES what
>the successful competitor MAXUS paid for their plant, and when MAXUS
>even paid for their land which GEKO will not, one has to ask, WHO IS
>GETTING THE EXTRA 28 MILLIONEN??

>Has Bundesfinanzamt approved the removal of the more than 30 millionen
>from Germany?

>Have the shareholders of GEKO been given all the facts regarding the
>disappearance of this money from their control?
>
>
>On 9 Nov 2004 00:39:27 -0000, Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header
>(DanChristensen) wrote:
>
>>Here in Canada, people have another extremely interesting question, which manager of
>>GEKO Recycling Technologies Dieter Obergfell can not answer!!
>>WHY IS THE EDMONTON CANADA GARBAGE PROJECT FOR GEKO GOING TO COST 30 MILLIONEN,
>>since they do not have to pay for the land of 5 acres?
>
>>In the nearby community of Ryley, the competitor doing the same work,
>>MAXUS TECHNOLOGTY CORPORATION, paid under
>>$3 millionen, which included the cost for their land!!
>
>>WHO IS POCKETING THE EXTRA $27 MILLIONEN? WER PROFITIERT?
>
>
>>An interesting question for Deutsche Bundesfinanzamt - Did GEKO pay the taxes 
>>in Germany, on the 30 million they say they will spend/lose
>>in Edmonton, Canada?
>
>
>>A local paper in Edmonton,Canada is reporting that the firm GEKO, division of DiHAG/GEKO
>>is supposed to be spending $30 million for a computer recycling plant at the 
>>local garbage dump.
>
>>It is not clear why GEKO are building this overpriced facility.
>
>>For more than 3 years, a competitor, MAXUS Technology Corporation, has been in 
>>business in a nearby town.
>>MAXUS have also made contracts with communities throughout western Canada and 
>>also the USA, to have trainloads of computers and similar
>>materials available for processing, leaving next to no product for GEKO!!
>
>>Because GEKO did NOT build when they said they would, 2 years ago, the mayor 
>>was defeated in his bid for re- election this week!!
>
>
>>Subject: Germany Continues Boycott of Deadmonton
>>Date: 1999/07/25
>>Message-ID: <199907251430.QAA17273@mail.replay.com>#1/1
>>Newsgroups: edm.general,ab.general,soc.culture.german
>
>>The media report that no businesses from Germany bothered
>>to attend this year's Klondike Days in Deadmonton, (Edmonton)Canada
>
>>Even though GERMANY was the featured nation.
>
>>Could this perhaps have something to do with the snubbing
>>by Burgermeister ARSCHLOCH Smith, of the international trade
>>delegation from Germany, whom he REFUSED to meet?
>
>>Smith refused to meet with the large delegation of people from Berlin,
>>who had been scheduled by both the provincial government trade office,
>>as well as City Hall.
>
>>The trade delegation after being snubbed by Smith, then went on to
>>Calgary, where they were welcomed. They also did do considerable
>>business, in the pro-business city, unlike the welfare  dump of
>>Deadmonton.
>
>>This INTERNATIONAL INCIDENT was documented in detail in the
>>Edmonton Journal 3 times - 1 December 1995 on page B2,
>>on 12 January 1996 on page B3, and again on 28 March 1996 on page A14.
>
>>The media in Germany carried many articles, denouncing the
>>anti-German actions of Burgermeister ARSCHLOCH.
>
>>It seems that even though slick Willy squanders piles of
>>taxpayer dollars wining and dining and traipsing off to
>>Germany, the businesspeople there still remember him as
>>Burgermeister Arschloch.
>
>>That is why Deadmonton is still blackballed by thinking Germans.
>
>>Now, slick Willy is trying to con some Germans running GEKO to
>>build a recycling plant for computers, WITHOUT TELLING THEM THAT
>>THEY ARE TOO LATE!!
>
>>Another local firm MAXUS TECHNOLOGY INC. has built a multi-million dollar 
>>facility near Edmonton, already operating, to handle millions of tonnes of old computers from all over 
>>Canada and the USA!!
>
>>Are Germans so stupid as to believe a mayor, whose own business as
>>a used tire dealer went under?? Ask Michelin about B & D Tiretown,
>>or even ask Jan Reimer who brought it up in the election campaign...
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When your wife, daughter or girlfriend is sold into sex slavery for the ZYDS,
then perhaps you might have some compassions!!

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:53:59 -0400, Vladimir Makarenko
 wrote:

>According to number of times you posted it here there left no Christian
>girls to sell. And we Christians don't give a damn about girls of other
>confessions. 
>Could you please switch to some alt.business?
>VM.

>Chief Instigator wrote:
>> On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 10:04:35 -0700, Susan Shiksa Cohen
>>  wrote:

>> Russian girls who are beautiful, as well as Polish and Ukrainian
>> girls, are all sold on the open slave markets in ZHID Israel, where
>> white slavery is legal.

>> >On 25 Oct 2004 11:21:36 -0000, DerTavish 
>> >wrote:

>> >>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, convicted of child molesting
>> >>and car theft in California and Oregon, the
>> >>well-known fag in Canada,Fag McVay of Vancouver,
>> >>and still unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of
>> >>the Canadian branch of NAMBLA, finally dying as a diseased
>> >>AIDS-spreader, wants all to know
>> >>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
>> >>Here is the latest.......

>> >>From: Rameses 
>> >>Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian
>> >>Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:40:57 -0700
 
>> >>The June 16 Saturday supplement to the Jerusalem Post reported:

>> >>"Every year hundreds of women, and an unknown number of
>> >>girls under the age of 18, are bought, sold, drugged,
>> >>imprisoned, and forced to work as prostitutes in Israel's
>> >>thriving sex industry.
 
>> >>In countries such as Russia, Ukraine, Latvia, and Hungary,
>> >>traffickers prey on desperate women. Facing poverty, the
>> >>women are lured to Israel with the promise that they will
>> >>make fabulous salaries working as teachers or caregivers.

>> >>In Israel prostitution is not illegal. Nor is there
>> >>legislation against trafficking or slavery".

>> >>With the governments of eastern Europe controlled by the
>> >>evil mafia bosses that profit from this trade, don't
>> >>expect anything to be done about this sickening crime
>> >>against humanity.


>> If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>> then visit  www.freedomsite.org
 
>> Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

>> "At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>> is a revolutionary act."
>> (George Orwell)

>> David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
 
>> "All truth passes through three stages.
>> First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>> and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>> (Arthur Schopenhauer)

>> "The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>> but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>> falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>> they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>> against them -- except force." -- John Bryant

>> "To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>> acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>> and impossible to ignore."
>> --John Bryant


>> Posted by:
>> Steven Horn (KCOM)
>> 1836 NW 11th St
>> Oklahoma City, OK 73106
>> (405) 524-0576

>> together with
 
>> Boris Dynin  = NAMBLA executive &
>> Henry who like
>> late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>> Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>> I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>> We like young children, so that we can train them our way.

>> CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>> Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even
>> VISIT me at:
>> 55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco  94132

>> Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>> office: VISIT at:
>> #5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>> Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>> or call: 1-250-616-9431

>> As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>> called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
>> should give an indication as to the why.

>> "I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>> proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>> yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>> seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>> my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>> moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>> http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>> also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

>> Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
>> a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>> even if he or she were not naked"?
>> http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

>> For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>> background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>> detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>> known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>> It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>> to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

>> Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>> NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>> Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late nights.

>> Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>> Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>> I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
>> send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>> work:(780)492-0473

>> Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>> Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

>> For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>> JEW-WATCH:
>> http://www.jewwatch.com

>> Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>> NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>> people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

>> Or, other useful websites include:
>> ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>> IHR - www.ihr.org
>> OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>> PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>> Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>> AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>> THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>>     Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>>     Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

>> Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>> They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

>> They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>> and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
 
>> As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>> victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>> of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>> May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

>> In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>> for many years around the world.

>> Reply-To: "George" 



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When your wife, daughter or girlfriend is sold into sex slavery for the ZYDS,
then perhaps you might have some compassions!!

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:53:59 -0400, Vladimir Makarenko
 wrote:

>According to number of times you posted it here there left no Christian
>girls to sell. And we Christians don't give a damn about girls of other
>confessions. 
>Could you please switch to some alt.business?
>VM.

>Chief Instigator wrote:
>> On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 10:04:35 -0700, Susan Shiksa Cohen
>>  wrote:

>> Russian girls who are beautiful, as well as Polish and Ukrainian
>> girls, are all sold on the open slave markets in ZHID Israel, where
>> white slavery is legal.

>> >On 25 Oct 2004 11:21:36 -0000, DerTavish 
>> >wrote:

>> >>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, convicted of child molesting
>> >>and car theft in California and Oregon, the
>> >>well-known fag in Canada,Fag McVay of Vancouver,
>> >>and still unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of
>> >>the Canadian branch of NAMBLA, finally dying as a diseased
>> >>AIDS-spreader, wants all to know
>> >>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
>> >>Here is the latest.......

>> >>From: Rameses 
>> >>Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian
>> >>Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:40:57 -0700
 
>> >>The June 16 Saturday supplement to the Jerusalem Post reported:

>> >>"Every year hundreds of women, and an unknown number of
>> >>girls under the age of 18, are bought, sold, drugged,
>> >>imprisoned, and forced to work as prostitutes in Israel's
>> >>thriving sex industry.
 
>> >>In countries such as Russia, Ukraine, Latvia, and Hungary,
>> >>traffickers prey on desperate women. Facing poverty, the
>> >>women are lured to Israel with the promise that they will
>> >>make fabulous salaries working as teachers or caregivers.

>> >>In Israel prostitution is not illegal. Nor is there
>> >>legislation against trafficking or slavery".

>> >>With the governments of eastern Europe controlled by the
>> >>evil mafia bosses that profit from this trade, don't
>> >>expect anything to be done about this sickening crime
>> >>against humanity.


>> If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>> then visit  www.freedomsite.org
 
>> Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

>> "At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>> is a revolutionary act."
>> (George Orwell)

>> David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
 
>> "All truth passes through three stages.
>> First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>> and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>> (Arthur Schopenhauer)

>> "The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>> but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>> falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>> they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>> against them -- except force." -- John Bryant

>> "To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>> acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>> and impossible to ignore."
>> --John Bryant


>> Posted by:
>> Steven Horn (KCOM)
>> 1836 NW 11th St
>> Oklahoma City, OK 73106
>> (405) 524-0576

>> together with
 
>> Boris Dynin  = NAMBLA executive &
>> Henry who like
>> late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>> Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>> I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>> We like young children, so that we can train them our way.

>> CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>> Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even
>> VISIT me at:
>> 55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco  94132

>> Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>> office: VISIT at:
>> #5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>> Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>> or call: 1-250-616-9431

>> As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>> called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
>> should give an indication as to the why.

>> "I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>> proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>> yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>> seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>> my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>> moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>> http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>> also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

>> Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
>> a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>> even if he or she were not naked"?
>> http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

>> For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>> background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>> detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>> known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>> It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>> to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

>> Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>> NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>> Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late nights.

>> Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>> Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>> I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
>> send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>> work:(780)492-0473

>> Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>> Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

>> For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>> JEW-WATCH:
>> http://www.jewwatch.com

>> Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>> NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>> people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

>> Or, other useful websites include:
>> ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>> IHR - www.ihr.org
>> OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>> PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>> Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>> AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>> THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>>     Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>>     Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

>> Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>> They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

>> They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>> and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
 
>> As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>> victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>> of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>> May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

>> In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>> for many years around the world.

>> Reply-To: "George" 



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When your wife, daughter or girlfriend is sold into sex slavery for the ZYDS,
then perhaps you might have some compassions!!

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:53:59 -0400, Vladimir Makarenko
 wrote:

>According to number of times you posted it here there left no Christian
>girls to sell. And we Christians don't give a damn about girls of other
>confessions. 
>Could you please switch to some alt.business?
>VM.

>Chief Instigator wrote:
>> On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 10:04:35 -0700, Susan Shiksa Cohen
>>  wrote:

>> Russian girls who are beautiful, as well as Polish and Ukrainian
>> girls, are all sold on the open slave markets in ZHID Israel, where
>> white slavery is legal.

>> >On 25 Oct 2004 11:21:36 -0000, DerTavish 
>> >wrote:

>> >>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, convicted of child molesting
>> >>and car theft in California and Oregon, the
>> >>well-known fag in Canada,Fag McVay of Vancouver,
>> >>and still unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of
>> >>the Canadian branch of NAMBLA, finally dying as a diseased
>> >>AIDS-spreader, wants all to know
>> >>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
>> >>Here is the latest.......

>> >>From: Rameses 
>> >>Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian
>> >>Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:40:57 -0700
 
>> >>The June 16 Saturday supplement to the Jerusalem Post reported:

>> >>"Every year hundreds of women, and an unknown number of
>> >>girls under the age of 18, are bought, sold, drugged,
>> >>imprisoned, and forced to work as prostitutes in Israel's
>> >>thriving sex industry.
 
>> >>In countries such as Russia, Ukraine, Latvia, and Hungary,
>> >>traffickers prey on desperate women. Facing poverty, the
>> >>women are lured to Israel with the promise that they will
>> >>make fabulous salaries working as teachers or caregivers.

>> >>In Israel prostitution is not illegal. Nor is there
>> >>legislation against trafficking or slavery".

>> >>With the governments of eastern Europe controlled by the
>> >>evil mafia bosses that profit from this trade, don't
>> >>expect anything to be done about this sickening crime
>> >>against humanity.


>> If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>> then visit  www.freedomsite.org
 
>> Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

>> "At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>> is a revolutionary act."
>> (George Orwell)

>> David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
 
>> "All truth passes through three stages.
>> First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>> and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>> (Arthur Schopenhauer)

>> "The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>> but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>> falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>> they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>> against them -- except force." -- John Bryant

>> "To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>> acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>> and impossible to ignore."
>> --John Bryant


>> Posted by:
>> Steven Horn (KCOM)
>> 1836 NW 11th St
>> Oklahoma City, OK 73106
>> (405) 524-0576

>> together with
 
>> Boris Dynin  = NAMBLA executive &
>> Henry who like
>> late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>> Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>> I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>> We like young children, so that we can train them our way.

>> CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>> Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even
>> VISIT me at:
>> 55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco  94132

>> Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>> office: VISIT at:
>> #5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>> Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>> or call: 1-250-616-9431

>> As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>> called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
>> should give an indication as to the why.

>> "I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>> proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>> yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>> seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>> my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>> moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>> http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>> also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

>> Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
>> a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>> even if he or she were not naked"?
>> http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

>> For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>> background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>> detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>> known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>> It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>> to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

>> Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>> NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>> Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late nights.

>> Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>> Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>> I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
>> send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>> work:(780)492-0473

>> Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>> Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

>> For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>> JEW-WATCH:
>> http://www.jewwatch.com

>> Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>> NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>> people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

>> Or, other useful websites include:
>> ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>> IHR - www.ihr.org
>> OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>> PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>> Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>> AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>> THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>>     Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>>     Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

>> Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>> They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

>> They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>> and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
 
>> As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>> victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>> of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>> May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

>> In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>> for many years around the world.

>> Reply-To: "George" 



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Poland and Latvia are to be commended, for their stand for traditional family
values.

They deserve praise for resisting the demands of the perverts and sub-humans,
trying to destroy traditional families.

Other countries believing in traditional Christianity, true judaism, or even
Islam, should all do as honest Poland and Latvia do - restrict the rights of
the disgusting perverts and AIDS-spreaders!!


On 19 Nov 2006 13:56:22 -0800, "Sound of Trumpet" 
wrote:

>http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1739775/posts

>Poland & Latvia must address LGBT issues

>GayNZ ^ | November 16, 2006

>Posted on 11/16/2006 10:41:46 AM PST by lizol

>Poland & Latvia must address LGBT issues

>Amnesty International is getting tough with new European Union
>countries over gay rights issues.

>"If the European Union wants 2007 to be "European Year of Equal
>Opportunities", it needs to ensure as of now that lesbian, gay,
>bisexual and transgender (LGBT) people can freely express, assemble and
>associate in countries such as Poland and Latvia", says Amnesty
>International.

>Amnesty International is concerned that despite public attention to a
>string of homophobic incidents - in some cases actions and statements
>by the very authorities of these countries - little has been done to
>redress the situation and guarantee the basic rights of LGBT persons.
>
>In Poland, the person who replaced the director for the national
>teaching agency - dismissed for accepting a standard Council of
>Europe manual on anti-discrimination - has recently declared that
>homosexuality is contrary to human nature. These examples contradict
>the assurances presented by the Polish President during his visit to
>Brussels in August.
>
>In Latvia, authorities have also failed to provide credible guarantees
>that homophobic incidents will not be tolerated. This summer's
>refusal to grant permission for the Riga Pride 2006 march on account
>that police could not assure the security of the participants is a
>worrying signal that authorities are not living up to their
>obligations.
>
>Also worrying was the two-hour delay of significant police presence at
>the hotel where participants of a conference on LGBT rights were being
>attacked by protesters.
>
>Amnesty International has asked the EU to support the right of freedom
>of assembly, including "Pride Marches" and similar events in all Member
>States; take concrete steps to monitor the implementation of EU
>standards against discrimination in Member States; and ensure that
>police cooperation in Europe includes training of law enforcement
>officials on how to address homophobic violence.



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Unfortunately, too true.
Always, the ZYDS do their best to foment wars, and other miseries, everywhere
in the world, just to increase their power and the Jew World Order.

On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 09:19:19 -0700, FredBurg 
wrote:

>Those who have failed to learn from the past 2000 years of history, will be
>doomed to repeat history.
>
>With now an extra 51 well documented proven cases of ZHID  COLLABORATION
>WITH NAZIS, besides notorious KASTNER case,  one MUST question the
>HOLOHOAX figures!!
>
>Now even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to be a nazi GESTAPO
>COLLABORATOR!!
>
>On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:11:30 -0700, Ken Levi  wrote:
>
>>For the past 2000 years, the world has suffered because of the cursed
>>Christkiller ZHIDS.
>
>>Not just the Kollaboraci of the ZHIDS with the nazis.
>
>
>>On 27 Sep 2004 16:03:09 -0000, PhilMathews 
>>wrote:
>
>>>Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag in Canada,
>>>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>>>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>>>unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>>>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, wants all to know
>>>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
>
>>>Here is a photo of Ken McVay, director of WWW.NIZKOR.ORG--
>>>Does he not have the uncouth look as to fit the profile of a
>>>person who would say in general regarding child porn:
>>>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>>>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and
>>>have yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn."
>>>I've seen photos of naked children, ... and fail to see the
>>>harm, or any great moral danger to our society)."?
>>>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>>>     Would any of you want to leave this person, Ken McVay,
>>>                alone with your children?
>
>
>>>From: Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header (JohannSebastianBott)
>>>Subject: Re:ZHID ORDNUNGSPOLIZEI = ZYDOWSKY KOLABORANCI!!!
>>>Newsgroups: pl.regionalne.krakow,pl.regionalne.wroclaw
>>>On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:33:28 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>
>>Another significant article that merits discussion!!!
>
>>On Fri, 19 Sep 1997 13:15:13 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI
>> wrote:
>
>> > Just a moment ago, on soc.culture.polish,
>> > Dr. J. Ilicki, Associate Professor of Sociology
>> > and Judaic Studies on Upsalla University raised
>> > the question of Polish Polish in the service of
>> > Germans during occupation of Poland.  The only
>> > reason for this question at this time seems to be
>> > his need to stir interethnic hatered.  Provocatively,
>> > Dr. Ilicki asks:
>> > 1) who were the members of the
>> > police, volunteers or draftees?,
>> > 2) what was their social status?
>> > 3) what happened to them after the war?
>> > Just to play completely innocent (and dumb) he also asks
>> > why they were called Granatowa (dark-navy-blue) Police.
>
>> > Only naive will believe that Prof. Ilicki does not
>> > know the answers.
>> > Also only naive will believe that he is not interested
>> > in Pinsk the hometown of his parents and allegedly
>> > the site of the burial of his grandparents and over
>> > 30,000 pinksers (Jews from Pinsk).  He admitte
>> > that his mother listed them as killed there with
>> > Yad Vashem.  However, young (about 40 years old)
>> > Julian pretends disintrest, because he is afraid that
>> > exhumations might start at the alleged burial site
>> > and will find no skeletons as same happened last
>> > year at nearby Mariompole, presently in Lithuania.
>
>> > But coming back to Dr Illicki question: Polish Police
>> > during German occupation was  dramatically reduced
>> > in numbers and pre-war policemen were forced to
>> > serve as an auxillary force to German Ordnung Polizei.
>> > They were ususally not armed,and when armed never
>> > given more than five bullets for their long rifles.
>> > Moreover, after each use of firearm they
>> > (as well as the Ukraininan Police) had to write
>> > a report for what target each bullet was used
>> > and with what effectivness, hardly an invitation to
>> > the genocide.
>
>>>>>>> Hardly truth to Pawlikowski's story too.
>
>> > On the other hand there was a police force in
>> > the Third Reich, in which service was completely
>> > voluntary.  It was called Ordnungdienst.  Their
>> > emblem was a light alloy Star of David.  The
>> > social background of these Jewish collaborators
>> > according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18%
>> > with post-graduate degrees,  60% with college degree,
>> > 20% with elementary education.  These are data
>> > from self-serving, post-war questionaries.
>
>> > But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the
>> > requirement was that EACH Jewish policeman
>> > has at least matura (two years of college)
>> > see page 489 of his book.  In practice, the
>> > Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
>> > journalist who with the day of German
>> > occupation immediately were fired from
>> > their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because
>> > the schools were closed.
>
>> The service was voluntary. Take the job and keep
>> your life a little longer or die now!
>
>> Pawlikowski forgot how the Soviets were conscripted.
>> Under Stalin they ran to enlist hoping to avoid being
>> killed in the next "relocation"!
>
>> > While Polish teachers joined the underground,
>> > unemployed Jewish intelligentia clamored for the police work.
>
>> > Some of it was really gruesome as you remember
>> > from our previous description of the Feb. 1942
>> > execution on Rybna Street market place in Lodz.
>> > German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown
>> > endlessly in Wiesenthal Museum in LA.  Thousands
>> > of Jews standing and watching behind three
>> > uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered
>> > pistols facing Jewish crowd and about to be hanged
>> > women passing out and forced into
>> > the noose by Jewish Policemen.
>> > -------------
>> > Jozef Pawlikowski
>
>> Herman
>
>First,let us kill all the lawyers! - W.Shakespeare
>First, we get rid of all the politicians! - Mao Tse Dung
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled-as fertiliser!! Me
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>is a revolutionary act."
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages.
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant
>
>
>We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>
>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>office: VISIT at:
>#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>or call: 1-250-616-9431
>
>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
>should give an indication as to the why.
>
>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>
>Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked"?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>
>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>
>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late
>nights.
>
>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
>send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>work:(780)492-0473
>
>And also:panPiotrGlownia - panPiotrGlownia@swipnet.se
>SINCE I LIKE TO RECEIVE LOTS OF EMAILS, FEEL FREE TO SUBSCRIBE ME TO
>ALL KINDS OF MAILLISTS, ESPECIALLY FOR SEX, AND HOMOSEXUALS.
>
>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com
>
>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>IHR - www.ihr.org
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
>
>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>
>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>
>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>
>In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>for many years around the world.



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Poland and Latvia are to be commended, for their stand for traditional family
values.

They deserve praise for resisting the demands of the perverts and sub-humans,
trying to destroy traditional families.

Other countries believing in traditional Christianity, true judaism, or even
Islam, should all do as honest Poland and Latvia do - restrict the rights of
the disgusting perverts and AIDS-spreaders!!


On 19 Nov 2006 13:56:22 -0800, "Sound of Trumpet" 
wrote:

>http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1739775/posts

>Poland & Latvia must address LGBT issues

>GayNZ ^ | November 16, 2006

>Posted on 11/16/2006 10:41:46 AM PST by lizol

>Poland & Latvia must address LGBT issues

>Amnesty International is getting tough with new European Union
>countries over gay rights issues.

>"If the European Union wants 2007 to be "European Year of Equal
>Opportunities", it needs to ensure as of now that lesbian, gay,
>bisexual and transgender (LGBT) people can freely express, assemble and
>associate in countries such as Poland and Latvia", says Amnesty
>International.

>Amnesty International is concerned that despite public attention to a
>string of homophobic incidents - in some cases actions and statements
>by the very authorities of these countries - little has been done to
>redress the situation and guarantee the basic rights of LGBT persons.
>
>In Poland, the person who replaced the director for the national
>teaching agency - dismissed for accepting a standard Council of
>Europe manual on anti-discrimination - has recently declared that
>homosexuality is contrary to human nature. These examples contradict
>the assurances presented by the Polish President during his visit to
>Brussels in August.
>
>In Latvia, authorities have also failed to provide credible guarantees
>that homophobic incidents will not be tolerated. This summer's
>refusal to grant permission for the Riga Pride 2006 march on account
>that police could not assure the security of the participants is a
>worrying signal that authorities are not living up to their
>obligations.
>
>Also worrying was the two-hour delay of significant police presence at
>the hotel where participants of a conference on LGBT rights were being
>attacked by protesters.
>
>Amnesty International has asked the EU to support the right of freedom
>of assembly, including "Pride Marches" and similar events in all Member
>States; take concrete steps to monitor the implementation of EU
>standards against discrimination in Member States; and ensure that
>police cooperation in Europe includes training of law enforcement
>officials on how to address homophobic violence.



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Unfortunately, too true.
Always, the ZYDS do their best to foment wars, and other miseries, everywhere
in the world, just to increase their power and the Jew World Order.

On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 09:19:19 -0700, FredBurg 
wrote:

>Those who have failed to learn from the past 2000 years of history, will be
>doomed to repeat history.
>
>With now an extra 51 well documented proven cases of ZHID  COLLABORATION
>WITH NAZIS, besides notorious KASTNER case,  one MUST question the
>HOLOHOAX figures!!
>
>Now even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to be a nazi GESTAPO
>COLLABORATOR!!
>
>On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:11:30 -0700, Ken Levi  wrote:
>
>>For the past 2000 years, the world has suffered because of the cursed
>>Christkiller ZHIDS.
>
>>Not just the Kollaboraci of the ZHIDS with the nazis.
>
>
>>On 27 Sep 2004 16:03:09 -0000, PhilMathews 
>>wrote:
>
>>>Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag in Canada,
>>>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>>>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>>>unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>>>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, wants all to know
>>>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
>
>>>Here is a photo of Ken McVay, director of WWW.NIZKOR.ORG--
>>>Does he not have the uncouth look as to fit the profile of a
>>>person who would say in general regarding child porn:
>>>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>>>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and
>>>have yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn."
>>>I've seen photos of naked children, ... and fail to see the
>>>harm, or any great moral danger to our society)."?
>>>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>>>     Would any of you want to leave this person, Ken McVay,
>>>                alone with your children?
>
>
>>>From: Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header (JohannSebastianBott)
>>>Subject: Re:ZHID ORDNUNGSPOLIZEI = ZYDOWSKY KOLABORANCI!!!
>>>Newsgroups: pl.regionalne.krakow,pl.regionalne.wroclaw
>>>On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:33:28 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>
>>Another significant article that merits discussion!!!
>
>>On Fri, 19 Sep 1997 13:15:13 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI
>> wrote:
>
>> > Just a moment ago, on soc.culture.polish,
>> > Dr. J. Ilicki, Associate Professor of Sociology
>> > and Judaic Studies on Upsalla University raised
>> > the question of Polish Polish in the service of
>> > Germans during occupation of Poland.  The only
>> > reason for this question at this time seems to be
>> > his need to stir interethnic hatered.  Provocatively,
>> > Dr. Ilicki asks:
>> > 1) who were the members of the
>> > police, volunteers or draftees?,
>> > 2) what was their social status?
>> > 3) what happened to them after the war?
>> > Just to play completely innocent (and dumb) he also asks
>> > why they were called Granatowa (dark-navy-blue) Police.
>
>> > Only naive will believe that Prof. Ilicki does not
>> > know the answers.
>> > Also only naive will believe that he is not interested
>> > in Pinsk the hometown of his parents and allegedly
>> > the site of the burial of his grandparents and over
>> > 30,000 pinksers (Jews from Pinsk).  He admitte
>> > that his mother listed them as killed there with
>> > Yad Vashem.  However, young (about 40 years old)
>> > Julian pretends disintrest, because he is afraid that
>> > exhumations might start at the alleged burial site
>> > and will find no skeletons as same happened last
>> > year at nearby Mariompole, presently in Lithuania.
>
>> > But coming back to Dr Illicki question: Polish Police
>> > during German occupation was  dramatically reduced
>> > in numbers and pre-war policemen were forced to
>> > serve as an auxillary force to German Ordnung Polizei.
>> > They were ususally not armed,and when armed never
>> > given more than five bullets for their long rifles.
>> > Moreover, after each use of firearm they
>> > (as well as the Ukraininan Police) had to write
>> > a report for what target each bullet was used
>> > and with what effectivness, hardly an invitation to
>> > the genocide.
>
>>>>>>> Hardly truth to Pawlikowski's story too.
>
>> > On the other hand there was a police force in
>> > the Third Reich, in which service was completely
>> > voluntary.  It was called Ordnungdienst.  Their
>> > emblem was a light alloy Star of David.  The
>> > social background of these Jewish collaborators
>> > according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18%
>> > with post-graduate degrees,  60% with college degree,
>> > 20% with elementary education.  These are data
>> > from self-serving, post-war questionaries.
>
>> > But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the
>> > requirement was that EACH Jewish policeman
>> > has at least matura (two years of college)
>> > see page 489 of his book.  In practice, the
>> > Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
>> > journalist who with the day of German
>> > occupation immediately were fired from
>> > their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because
>> > the schools were closed.
>
>> The service was voluntary. Take the job and keep
>> your life a little longer or die now!
>
>> Pawlikowski forgot how the Soviets were conscripted.
>> Under Stalin they ran to enlist hoping to avoid being
>> killed in the next "relocation"!
>
>> > While Polish teachers joined the underground,
>> > unemployed Jewish intelligentia clamored for the police work.
>
>> > Some of it was really gruesome as you remember
>> > from our previous description of the Feb. 1942
>> > execution on Rybna Street market place in Lodz.
>> > German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown
>> > endlessly in Wiesenthal Museum in LA.  Thousands
>> > of Jews standing and watching behind three
>> > uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered
>> > pistols facing Jewish crowd and about to be hanged
>> > women passing out and forced into
>> > the noose by Jewish Policemen.
>> > -------------
>> > Jozef Pawlikowski
>
>> Herman
>
>First,let us kill all the lawyers! - W.Shakespeare
>First, we get rid of all the politicians! - Mao Tse Dung
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled-as fertiliser!! Me
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>is a revolutionary act."
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages.
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant
>
>
>We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>
>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>office: VISIT at:
>#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>or call: 1-250-616-9431
>
>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
>should give an indication as to the why.
>
>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>
>Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked"?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>
>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>
>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late
>nights.
>
>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
>send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>work:(780)492-0473
>
>And also:panPiotrGlownia - panPiotrGlownia@swipnet.se
>SINCE I LIKE TO RECEIVE LOTS OF EMAILS, FEEL FREE TO SUBSCRIBE ME TO
>ALL KINDS OF MAILLISTS, ESPECIALLY FOR SEX, AND HOMOSEXUALS.
>
>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com
>
>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>IHR - www.ihr.org
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
>
>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>
>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>
>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>
>In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>for many years around the world.



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When your wife, daughter or girlfriend is sold into sex slavery for the ZYDS,
then perhaps you might have some compassions!!

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:53:59 -0400, Vladimir Makarenko
 wrote:

>According to number of times you posted it here there left no Christian
>girls to sell. And we Christians don't give a damn about girls of other
>confessions. 
>Could you please switch to some alt.business?
>VM.

>Chief Instigator wrote:
>> On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 10:04:35 -0700, Susan Shiksa Cohen
>>  wrote:

>> Russian girls who are beautiful, as well as Polish and Ukrainian
>> girls, are all sold on the open slave markets in ZHID Israel, where
>> white slavery is legal.

>> >On 25 Oct 2004 11:21:36 -0000, DerTavish 
>> >wrote:

>> >>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, convicted of child molesting
>> >>and car theft in California and Oregon, the
>> >>well-known fag in Canada,Fag McVay of Vancouver,
>> >>and still unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of
>> >>the Canadian branch of NAMBLA, finally dying as a diseased
>> >>AIDS-spreader, wants all to know
>> >>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
>> >>Here is the latest.......

>> >>From: Rameses 
>> >>Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian
>> >>Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:40:57 -0700
 
>> >>The June 16 Saturday supplement to the Jerusalem Post reported:

>> >>"Every year hundreds of women, and an unknown number of
>> >>girls under the age of 18, are bought, sold, drugged,
>> >>imprisoned, and forced to work as prostitutes in Israel's
>> >>thriving sex industry.
 
>> >>In countries such as Russia, Ukraine, Latvia, and Hungary,
>> >>traffickers prey on desperate women. Facing poverty, the
>> >>women are lured to Israel with the promise that they will
>> >>make fabulous salaries working as teachers or caregivers.

>> >>In Israel prostitution is not illegal. Nor is there
>> >>legislation against trafficking or slavery".

>> >>With the governments of eastern Europe controlled by the
>> >>evil mafia bosses that profit from this trade, don't
>> >>expect anything to be done about this sickening crime
>> >>against humanity.


>> If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>> then visit  www.freedomsite.org
 
>> Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

>> "At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>> is a revolutionary act."
>> (George Orwell)

>> David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
 
>> "All truth passes through three stages.
>> First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>> and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>> (Arthur Schopenhauer)

>> "The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>> but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>> falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>> they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>> against them -- except force." -- John Bryant

>> "To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>> acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>> and impossible to ignore."
>> --John Bryant


>> Posted by:
>> Steven Horn (KCOM)
>> 1836 NW 11th St
>> Oklahoma City, OK 73106
>> (405) 524-0576

>> together with
 
>> Boris Dynin  = NAMBLA executive &
>> Henry who like
>> late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>> Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>> I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>> We like young children, so that we can train them our way.

>> CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>> Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even
>> VISIT me at:
>> 55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco  94132

>> Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>> office: VISIT at:
>> #5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>> Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>> or call: 1-250-616-9431

>> As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>> called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
>> should give an indication as to the why.

>> "I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>> proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>> yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>> seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>> my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>> moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>> http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>> also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

>> Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
>> a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>> even if he or she were not naked"?
>> http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

>> For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>> background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>> detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>> known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>> It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>> to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

>> Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>> NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>> Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late nights.

>> Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>> Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>> I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
>> send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>> work:(780)492-0473

>> Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>> Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

>> For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>> JEW-WATCH:
>> http://www.jewwatch.com

>> Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>> NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>> people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

>> Or, other useful websites include:
>> ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>> IHR - www.ihr.org
>> OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>> PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>> Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>> AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>> THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>>     Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>>     Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

>> Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>> They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

>> They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>> and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
 
>> As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>> victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>> of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>> May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

>> In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>> for many years around the world.

>> Reply-To: "George" 



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On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 00:31:38 -0500, FLDENGR  wrote:

>When will you dick heads in Edmonton give it up and realise that 

It is very interesting, that the Canadian Legion are now complaining about the
white poppy campaign for PEACE.

Notice they did NOT complain about the former liberal government designating a
separate day for the ZYD HOLOHOAX DAY!!

If the legion are so concerned about Remembrance Day, why no protest about the
separate day just for the ZYDS?


On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 11:52:57 -0700, Felix Dzerzhinsky 
wrote:

Header asks a very relevant question, especially now that there are at least
52 well-documented cases of ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS, 
not forgetting the notorious KASTNER  CASE!!

Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is exposed as a Nazi GESTAPO
COLLABORATOR!!

Why a special day, paid by taxpayers, just for the Christkiller ZHIDS?


>On 1 Feb 2005 03:38:19 -0000, Hans Wapnigg  wrote:
>>From: Nemo 
>>Newsgroups: can.politics,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.democrats.d,alt.politics.british,aus.politics
>>Subject: Holocaust Memorial Day Should Include Victims Of  All Holocausts Of 20th Century--Not Just Jews
>>Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 05:42:23 MST (pd7tw1no)

>>This day of commiseration should not be limited only to the victims of
>>the Jewish Holocaust perpetrated by European socialists (Nazis and
>>Commies) and their sympathizers during World War II.

>>It should be in sympathy for the tens of millions of victims of
>>Lenin and Stalin in the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe. For example,
>>the massacre of the Kulaks in Ukraine and Russia. The massacre of Polish
>>officers at Katyn by Stalin's Soviet troops which the Commies tried to
>>blame this on their socialist cousins, Hitler's Nazis.

>>The 1 million Armenians massacred by the Turks is also a holocaust that
>>should be commemorated. Then there is the tens of millions of Chinese
>>murdered by Mao in his "Great Leap Forward" and "Cultural Revolution".

>>The genocides by Pol Pot in Cambodia and Mengistu in Ethiopia should
>>also be remembered. And let us not forget the horrible genocide in
>>Ruwanda in the the 1990s in which over 900,000 perished.

>>The fact is that during the 20th century more than 100 million people
>>were murdered by socialists (Commies, Nazis). The six million Jews
>>killed by the Nazis and Communists during WW II are only a fraction
>>(less than 10%) of the total number of victims of the bloodiest century
>>in world history.

>>Notice that disgusting dying AIDS-spreader pervert Ken McVay, refuses to
>>discuss the SUBJECT of the article, because his JEW masters do not
>>want all the sheeple in Canada to start to THINK!!

>>None of the other groups of victims in Canada,or in Europe have received the 
>>same treatment, just the cursed JEWS!!

>>The Acadians of Canada did not get similar treatment from the Jew-controlled
>>government.
>>All the aboriginals murdered by the whites in Canada and USA, and Australia,
>>get no such treatment.
>>All the Ukrainians kept in concentration camps IN CANADA got no such
>>recognition, let alone all the many millions killed by the
>>JEW-controlled Soviets!!
>>There are many groups of people in Canada, and Australia, New Zealand, and 
>>Europe, who are fed up with the special treatment given to those they blame for having 
>>CHRIST killed!!


>>LisaMcVay@wowmail.com (LisaMcVay) wrote in message 
>>news:<9679f676.0311291332.73304b41@posting.google.com>...
>>> How can it be hateful, to complain legitimately about the preferential
>>> treatment given one disgusting group of creatures?

>>> For 2000 years people worldwide have had to suffer at the hands of
>>> those who had Christ murdered, because He exposed their scandalous
>>> conduct in the Jew temples.

>>> Now, Canadians must continue paying for a special holiday, just to
>>> commemmorate the HOLOHOAX!!

>>> No consideration is given to the more than 100 MILLIONS KILLED BY ZHID
>>> COMMUNISM!!


>>Now that normal people have celebrated the real Remembrance Day,
>>supposedly covering all victims of all wars, we can now wonder why
>>should there be another costly day, just for the cursed ZHIDS!!

>>Why should Canadians have to pay each year, and celebrate
>>HOLOHOAX Day, just for the nuisance ZHIDS? Is it true that
>>the filthy ZHIDS, like the BRONFMANs, control Canada?
>>Why should Canadian businesses have to pay for another
>>worthless statutory holiday, and pay staff for NOT WORKING,
>>just to satisfy some ZHIDS?

>>We already have Remembrance Day, supposedly to remember ALL
>>who died in ALL WARS.

>>We do not celebrate the HOLOCAUST of the Armenians by the Turks.
>>We do not celebrate the NANKING massacre of the Chinese by Japan.
>>We do not celebrate the genocide of German POWs in concentration
>>camps by the Allies in 1945-6.

>>Canada doesn't even celebrate the Ukrainian HOLOCAUST/FAMINE murders
>>of the tens of millions in the 1930's.
>>Canada does not celebrate the 100 millions killed by the ZHID Soviets before 
>>and during WW2.
>>Canada does not celebrate the tens of thousands of innocent Palestinians 
>>murdered by the Israeli occupation forces.Have you forgotten Sabra and Shatilla?

>>Canada doesn't celebrate the tens of thousands of natives it killed, so why the 
>>ZHIDS?
>>Australia does not celebrate all the abos killed since the British occupied 
>>Australia.

>>So why should we have a ZHID DAY?!!

>>Is it true that the BRONFMAN ZHIDS - who cheated the Canadian Tax Department
>>of unpaid $1,500 MILLIONS in taxes - do control the Canadian Government?
>>The gutless politicians who approved this discrimination should be  exterminated!!

>>Complain to your MPs, and let them know, you are fed up with ZHID control of 
>>Canada, Australia,or wherever you live!!

>>Why should sovereign countries in Europe have to kowtow to the disgusting 
>>Christkiller ZHIDS,
>>and have a special day, just for them, when they have no such special day for 
>>those of their own people who were killed by, or because of the ZHIDS?


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant



For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


>REMEMBRANCE day is for remembrance of our WAR dead and not our hippy 
>pothead NDP's who yelled peace!? It's for those who had the guts to 
>think about GOD and country and gave everything they had to protect 
>Canada and our freedoms!! Red is the colour and it's that way for a 
>reason, you want a peace day take it up with Jack Layton otherwise shut 
>the f--k up and get with the program!!



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When your wife, daughter or girlfriend is sold into sex slavery for the ZYDS,
then perhaps you might have some compassions!!

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:53:59 -0400, Vladimir Makarenko
 wrote:

>According to number of times you posted it here there left no Christian
>girls to sell. And we Christians don't give a damn about girls of other
>confessions. 
>Could you please switch to some alt.business?
>VM.

>Chief Instigator wrote:
>> On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 10:04:35 -0700, Susan Shiksa Cohen
>>  wrote:

>> Russian girls who are beautiful, as well as Polish and Ukrainian
>> girls, are all sold on the open slave markets in ZHID Israel, where
>> white slavery is legal.

>> >On 25 Oct 2004 11:21:36 -0000, DerTavish 
>> >wrote:

>> >>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, convicted of child molesting
>> >>and car theft in California and Oregon, the
>> >>well-known fag in Canada,Fag McVay of Vancouver,
>> >>and still unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of
>> >>the Canadian branch of NAMBLA, finally dying as a diseased
>> >>AIDS-spreader, wants all to know
>> >>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
>> >>Here is the latest.......

>> >>From: Rameses 
>> >>Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian
>> >>Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:40:57 -0700
 
>> >>The June 16 Saturday supplement to the Jerusalem Post reported:

>> >>"Every year hundreds of women, and an unknown number of
>> >>girls under the age of 18, are bought, sold, drugged,
>> >>imprisoned, and forced to work as prostitutes in Israel's
>> >>thriving sex industry.
 
>> >>In countries such as Russia, Ukraine, Latvia, and Hungary,
>> >>traffickers prey on desperate women. Facing poverty, the
>> >>women are lured to Israel with the promise that they will
>> >>make fabulous salaries working as teachers or caregivers.

>> >>In Israel prostitution is not illegal. Nor is there
>> >>legislation against trafficking or slavery".

>> >>With the governments of eastern Europe controlled by the
>> >>evil mafia bosses that profit from this trade, don't
>> >>expect anything to be done about this sickening crime
>> >>against humanity.


>> If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>> then visit  www.freedomsite.org
 
>> Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

>> "At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>> is a revolutionary act."
>> (George Orwell)

>> David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
 
>> "All truth passes through three stages.
>> First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>> and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>> (Arthur Schopenhauer)

>> "The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>> but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>> falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>> they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>> against them -- except force." -- John Bryant

>> "To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>> acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>> and impossible to ignore."
>> --John Bryant


>> Posted by:
>> Steven Horn (KCOM)
>> 1836 NW 11th St
>> Oklahoma City, OK 73106
>> (405) 524-0576

>> together with
 
>> Boris Dynin  = NAMBLA executive &
>> Henry who like
>> late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>> Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>> I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>> We like young children, so that we can train them our way.

>> CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>> Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even
>> VISIT me at:
>> 55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco  94132

>> Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>> office: VISIT at:
>> #5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>> Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>> or call: 1-250-616-9431

>> As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>> called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
>> should give an indication as to the why.

>> "I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>> proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>> yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>> seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>> my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>> moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>> http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>> also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

>> Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
>> a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>> even if he or she were not naked"?
>> http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

>> For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>> background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>> detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>> known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>> It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>> to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

>> Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>> NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>> Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late nights.

>> Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>> Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>> I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
>> send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>> work:(780)492-0473

>> Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>> Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

>> For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>> JEW-WATCH:
>> http://www.jewwatch.com

>> Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>> NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>> people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

>> Or, other useful websites include:
>> ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>> IHR - www.ihr.org
>> OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>> PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>> Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>> AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>> THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>>     Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>>     Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

>> Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>> They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

>> They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>> and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
 
>> As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>> victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>> of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>> May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

>> In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>> for many years around the world.

>> Reply-To: "George" 



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When your wife, daughter or girlfriend is sold into sex slavery for the ZYDS,
then perhaps you might have some compassions!!

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:53:59 -0400, Vladimir Makarenko
 wrote:

>According to number of times you posted it here there left no Christian
>girls to sell. And we Christians don't give a damn about girls of other
>confessions. 
>Could you please switch to some alt.business?
>VM.

>Chief Instigator wrote:
>> On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 10:04:35 -0700, Susan Shiksa Cohen
>>  wrote:

>> Russian girls who are beautiful, as well as Polish and Ukrainian
>> girls, are all sold on the open slave markets in ZHID Israel, where
>> white slavery is legal.

>> >On 25 Oct 2004 11:21:36 -0000, DerTavish 
>> >wrote:

>> >>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, convicted of child molesting
>> >>and car theft in California and Oregon, the
>> >>well-known fag in Canada,Fag McVay of Vancouver,
>> >>and still unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of
>> >>the Canadian branch of NAMBLA, finally dying as a diseased
>> >>AIDS-spreader, wants all to know
>> >>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
>> >>Here is the latest.......

>> >>From: Rameses 
>> >>Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian
>> >>Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:40:57 -0700
 
>> >>The June 16 Saturday supplement to the Jerusalem Post reported:

>> >>"Every year hundreds of women, and an unknown number of
>> >>girls under the age of 18, are bought, sold, drugged,
>> >>imprisoned, and forced to work as prostitutes in Israel's
>> >>thriving sex industry.
 
>> >>In countries such as Russia, Ukraine, Latvia, and Hungary,
>> >>traffickers prey on desperate women. Facing poverty, the
>> >>women are lured to Israel with the promise that they will
>> >>make fabulous salaries working as teachers or caregivers.

>> >>In Israel prostitution is not illegal. Nor is there
>> >>legislation against trafficking or slavery".

>> >>With the governments of eastern Europe controlled by the
>> >>evil mafia bosses that profit from this trade, don't
>> >>expect anything to be done about this sickening crime
>> >>against humanity.


>> If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>> then visit  www.freedomsite.org
 
>> Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

>> "At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>> is a revolutionary act."
>> (George Orwell)

>> David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
 
>> "All truth passes through three stages.
>> First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>> and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>> (Arthur Schopenhauer)

>> "The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>> but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>> falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>> they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>> against them -- except force." -- John Bryant

>> "To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>> acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>> and impossible to ignore."
>> --John Bryant


>> Posted by:
>> Steven Horn (KCOM)
>> 1836 NW 11th St
>> Oklahoma City, OK 73106
>> (405) 524-0576

>> together with
 
>> Boris Dynin  = NAMBLA executive &
>> Henry who like
>> late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>> Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>> I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>> We like young children, so that we can train them our way.

>> CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>> Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even
>> VISIT me at:
>> 55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco  94132

>> Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>> office: VISIT at:
>> #5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>> Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>> or call: 1-250-616-9431

>> As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>> called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
>> should give an indication as to the why.

>> "I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>> proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>> yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>> seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>> my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>> moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>> http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>> also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

>> Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
>> a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>> even if he or she were not naked"?
>> http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

>> For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>> background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>> detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>> known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>> It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>> to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

>> Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>> NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>> Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late nights.

>> Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>> Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>> I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
>> send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>> work:(780)492-0473

>> Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>> Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

>> For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>> JEW-WATCH:
>> http://www.jewwatch.com

>> Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>> NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>> people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

>> Or, other useful websites include:
>> ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>> IHR - www.ihr.org
>> OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>> PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>> Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>> AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>> THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>>     Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>>     Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

>> Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>> They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

>> They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>> and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
 
>> As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>> victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>> of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>> May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

>> In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>> for many years around the world.

>> Reply-To: "George" 



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On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 10:37:16 -0700, Frank Arthur  wrote:

NOTE:  Do not print this out if you reside in  Austria;
Belgium; France; Germany; Israel; Spain or Switzerland.

WARNING To People in Austria; Belgium; France; Germany;
Israel; Spain and Switzerland. You can be fined,
imprisoned or both for discussing the topics set
forth in this article.

From: hoaxbuster 
Newsgroups: de.soc.politik.misc
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 04:28:15 -0700

Die Holocaust Geschichte ist ein Schwindel weil niemand
vergasst wurde. Von den angeblichen ermordeten 6 millionen
Juden, mehr als zwei millionen wurden angeblich mit
Dieselauspuff umgebracht-  -dass ist technisch absurd.

Zur gleichen Zeit hatte man ungefaehr 500,000 Holzgas-lastwagen
auf den Strassen. Holzgas is Giftgas mit mehr as 20%
Kohlenmonoxid--bis auf 35%--und ist sehr toedlich. Es waere
ideal gewesen fuer Massenmord. Aber dieser Mittel wurde
angeblich nie benutzt fuer Mord--nur viele Todesfaelle durch
Unglueck. Diesel Auspuff enthaelt weniger als 0.4% und dass
nur mit hoher Belasting am Diesel--im Leerlauf enthaelt Diesel
Auspuff weniger als 0.1% CO und 18% Sauerstoff.

Um eine schwere Belastung zu erreichen muss mann etwas
ankuppeln zum Diesel--ein grosses Geblaese, oder eine schwere
Pumpe, oder ein Generator, oder etwas.  Nur in "Neutral" oder
Leerlauf oder schneller Leerlauf, oder mit nur eine kleine
Belastung waere eine Vegasung in eine halbe Stunde mit
Dieselauspuff voellig unmoeglich.

Kurz gesagt: Obwohl Dieselauspuff ideal zum foltern waere,
es ist Absurd fuer Massenmord--und so ist die Holocaust
Geschichte auch!!

Noch zum Thema in grossen: es gibt heute zwischen eine
halben Million und eine Million juedische Holocaustueberlebende
und das fuenfzig Jahre nach dem Krieg.  Die wollen alle natuerlich
viel Geld und ihre Haend kann mann heute gut zaehlen:  300,000
in Israel, 500,000 in Amerika usw.  Wem hat Hitler angeblich
umgebracht wenn es so viele Ueberlebende gibt?

FPBerg


Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
is a revolutionary act."
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Ken McVay invites callers to his homosexuals escorts office:
1-250-616-9431
Or, VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to work:(780)492-0473


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the website for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Or, other useful websites include:
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natvan.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay rot in hell.

In the USA there is Freedom of Speech, guaranteed by the Constitution.
Unlike some countries in Europe, under the ZHID control!!




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And do not forget the murders by the ZHIDS at HOLODOMOR!

The filthy ZHIDS can no longer lie about KATYN and try to blame 
the Germans.

Even the Soviets had to admit the truth, and also about Vinnitsa.

No wonder around the world more and more people are starting to really
dislike the filthy ZHIDS!!

And never forget all the ZYD KOLABORACI with the nazis = KASTNER, 
RUMKOWSKI and even WIESENTHAL, plus 51 more!!

>>Latest update follows:
>>From: "Strider" 
>>Newsgroups: 
>>soc.culture.
>>jewish,soc.c
>>ulture.israel,soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.australian,soc.culture.yugoslavia
>>Subject: Jewish Copmmissars murdered these Poles

>>Our shame still lies in the Katyn forest
>>By Kevin Myers
>>(Filed: 27/04/2003)

>>Today Poles all over the world will commemorate the 60th anniversary of
>>the discovery of the war crime which didn't occur. And the non-existence
>>of this atrocity constituted democracy's most sordid exercise in realpolitik
>>of the entire 20th century. The Soviet Union captured 180,000 Polish soldiers
>>during its invasion of Poland in 1939. Most were herded off to slave-camps
>>in Siberia, but 22,000 officers were not. In April 1940, on Stalin's orders,
>>each was bound with barbed wire and executed with a single shot to the
>>head.

>>This was a colossal undertaking: the death toll was greater than that on the
>>most calamitous day in British military history - the Somme, July 1,1916.
>>More importantly, the massacres occurred before the German invasions of
>>France and the Low Countries. And although hundreds of Jews in Poland
>>had been murdered, these were improvised butcheries, essentially unrelated
>>to The Final Solution, which had not yet begun.

>>So the first systematic mass murder of defenceless innocents in the Second
>>World War was not by the Nazis, but by the Soviet Union, just over a year
>>before the USSR became Britain's official best friend. This shouldn't
>>surprise us: after all, it had been the Soviets, and not the Nazis,who
>>invented industrialised murder. From the revolution on, they freely
>>used the word "exterminate" of their enemies. Hitler listened; and Hitler
>>learned, as dictators do. Moreover, the careful murder of so many officers from a
>>single narrow stratum of Polish society was truly proto-genocide: its intent
>>was to eliminate Polish identity by the extermination of all its perceived
>>guardians.

>>In 1943, via two sources - through a population census within the exiled
>>Polish community living in the USSR, and from the Germans, who had
>>discovered the site of one of the massacres, in the woods of Katyn,
>>outside Smolensk - the British discovered the fate of the Polish officers. A
>>devastating report from the British ambassador to the Polish
>>government-in-exile, Owen O'Malley, left no doubt about the matter.

>>The British Government's public response was to dismiss the Nazi
>>discoveries as propaganda and tell the Polish government-in-exile to forget Katyn
>>and to proceed with beating the real enemy, Germany.

>>War is war, and in peace it is impossible to replicate the fevers and the
>>terrors it induces. So no useful moral judgment can be made about
>>those who decided in 1943 publicly to accept lies as fact, and to conceal the
>>truth as regrettable but necessary strategy. But it was statecraft at its most
>>pusillanimous to allow those lies to become a cornerstone of the
>>relationship between the Western allies and the Soviet Union.

>>That is what happened when the three leaders - Churchill, Roosevelt and
>>Stalin - met at Teheran in November 1943. Far from berating the Soviet
>>Leader for the massacres, the two democratic leaders propitiated him,
>>awarding him the Polish land he had stolen even as he seized his future
>>murder victims. And when Stalin jested that they should settle the
>>German problem once and for all by killing 50,000 German officers, Churchill
>>merely protested sulkily, and Roosevelt light-heartedly suggested killing
>>only 49,000.
>
>>But nobody mentioned Katyn. How was this possible? For the massacre of
>>the Poles was surely the secret subtext to this grisly exchange, and one by
>>which Stalin was taking the measure of his two confreres. All three
>>knew of the murders, and the bodyguard of lies around them: and silently, all
>>three - two of them abjectly, the third triumphantly - assented to those lies.

>>Teheran was the true nadir of international diplomacy, morally far more
>>ignoble and strategically far more catastrophic than either Munich five
>>years before or Yalta a year later. And the key to Teheran was Katyn:
>>once Stalin had got away with that, he realised he could get away with
>>almost anything.

>>Moreover, the fiction of Katyn took root within the Foreign Office. There,
>>nourished on complicit cowardice and malformed in the darkness of
>>pathological guilt, the temporary tactic of 1943 was in time to turn into
>>the diseased plant of enduring policy. It even caused the Callaghan
>>Government in the 1970s vehemently to oppose the erection of a
>>memorial in London to the victims of Katyn.

>>Denial, in its purest psychiatric sense, of Katyn also infused much
>>consideration of the 20th century: how else could Roy Jenkins have
>>written a life of Churchill without once referring to Katyn, the Great Lie of
>>which the prime minister was prime mover? How else could so many historians

>>Norman Davies aside - simply ignore the extraordinary Western
>>collusion in covering up communist atrocities, and the profound impact this must
>>have had on Kremlin thinking?

>>On Thursday the FCO publishes a report, British reactions to the Katyn
>>Massacre, in a belated attempt at expiation for Britain's repeated
>>cover-ups of this terrible affair. But it cannot undo the evil of the
>>extermination of the Polish officer corps which, far from being the subject of a
>>war-crimes trial, was embraced and rewarded at Teheran; and from that city, the
>>communism of Katyn was soon to march forth and conquer half the world.

>>My thanks to you for reposting this article.
>>A brilliant truthful piece.
>>Ed Kadach

>>mahdi@alahram.com wrote:
>>On Sun, 19 Jul 1998 22:06:50 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>>>On 1 May 1998 13:08:00 +0200, Irmin@nsm.htp.org wrote:

>>>>American Dissident Voices Broadcast of April 25, 1998

>>>>Katyn
>>>>by Dr. William Pierce

>>>>A background noise that seems never to go away is the constant
>>>>whining and yammering of the Jews about how the world owes them a
>>>>living because of their losses during the so-called "Holocaust."
>>>>They do it, of course, because they make such a big profit on it.
>>>>The latest flare-up of this Jewish play for a handout came more
>>>>than a year ago when they began demanding that the Swiss pay them
>>>>$7 billion, which "Holocaust" victims allegedly had stashed in
>>>>numbered Swiss accounts before being hauled off to gas chambers
>>>>during the Second World War.

>>>>With a few "bought" Gentile politicians fronting for them, the
>>>>foremost among these being New York's Senator Alphonse D'Amato,
>>>>the Jews threatened Switzerland with a boycott by the U.S.
>>>>government if their demands were not met. Instead of laughing in
>>>>their faces, telling the Jews to go to hell, and gearing up for
>>>>countermeasures against Israel and other Jewish interests if the
>>>>Jews tried to proceed with a boycott, the Swiss politicians tried
>>>>to placate the Jews by offering to buy themoff. The Jews took the
>>>>Swiss response as a sign of weakness and escalated their demands.

>>>>The average Swiss citizen seems to have a little more pride than
>>>>Switzerland's elected officials, however, and resentment against
>>>>the Jews' extortion efforts is building in Switzerland now to the
>>>>point that some of that country's richest Jews are wearing
>>>>bulletproof vests whenever they must go out in public.

>>>>In general, however, this "Holocaust"-based extortion racket
>>>>works quite well for the Jews, and they have expanded their
>>>>demands for World War Two reparations to include a number of
>>>>other countries besides Switzerland. They are even whining that
>>>>the Vatican owes them because Pope Pius XII didn't do enough to
>>>>save them from the Germans during the war. The Jews' brazenness
>>>>in this whole business is quite breathtaking.

>>>>Their brazenness, of course, is justified, because by and large
>>>>they have been getting away with it. And they have been getting
>>>>away with it because with their media control they have been able
>>>>to distort the general public's whole perception of what happened
>>>>during the Second World War. They have been able to portray
>>>>themselves as innocent victims and just about everyone else as
>>>>persecutors and aggressors, even the people who were fighting on
>>>>the Jewish side against the Germans during the war. For example,
>>>>they have done quite a bit of whining that after the Red Army
>>>>drove the Germans from Poland, the Poles took the opportunity to
>>>>lynch hundreds of Jews in 1945 and 1946: Jews whom the Germans
>>>>somehow had failed to get rid of during their wartime occupation
>>>>of Poland.

>>>>Now, why would the Poles do something like that? Why would they
>>>>lynch the poor Jews, who had been on their side during the war?
>>>>If you learned about the war from watching Steven Spielberg
>>>>propaganda films and other mass-media sources, you probably
>>>>believe that it was because of religious anti-Semitism on the
>>>>part of the Catholic Poles. Let me tell you the real reason why
>>>>so many Poles hated Jews after the war. It's something the
>>>>Jew-controlled media in America have tried hard to keep covered
>>>>up. Let me tell you about what happened in the Katyn forest
>>>>in 1940.

>>>>In September 1939 Poland was invaded from the west by Germany and
>>>>from the east by the Soviet Union. The Germans wanted back the
>>>>territory in western Poland, including the city of Danzig, which
>>>>had been taken from them at the end of the First World War. The
>>>>Soviets wanted eastern Poland. The Germans and the Soviets
>>>>divided Poland between them, with the boundary running roughly
>>>>along the River Bug.

>>>>Britain and France, both under strong Jewish pressure, declared
>>>>war on Germany in September 1939, ostensibly because of Germany's
>>>>invasion of Poland. They did not declare war on the Soviet Union,
>>>>which also had invaded Poland. In the United States and in
>>>>western Europe, where the Jews held a deathgrip on the mass
>>>>media, a great deal of anti-German propaganda was based on the
>>>>German grab for Polish territory -- much of which, of course,
>>>>actually was historically German territory -- and nothing was
>>>>said of the Soviet occupation and annexation of eastern Poland.

>>>>The reason for this anti-German and pro-Soviet bias by the Jewish
>>>>media was that the Jews were riding high in the Soviet Union as
>>>>commissars and communist party bosses under Stalin, while in
>>>>Germany Hitler had undertaken a program since 1933 of freeing
>>>>Germany from all Jewish influence. Jews had been weeded out of
>>>>the media, the law, the schools, and other areas of economic and
>>>>cultural life in Germany. Before Hitler became chancellor in 1933
>>>>the Jews had done in Germany what they do in every country where
>>>>they gain a foothold: they had monopolized large sections of the
>>>>mass media and certain professions and were doing their best to
>>>>distort German culture, German society, and the German economy
>>>>to suit themselves. Hitler put a stop to that, and two-thirds of
>>>>the 1933 Jewish population of Germany had emigrated by the
>>>>invasion of Poland in September 1939. So the Jews hated Germany
>>>>and were determined to do whatever they could to destroy her.

>>>>For his part, Hitler hoped to avoid war with Britain and France.
>>>>He hoped that after his quick victory in western Poland he could
>>>>make peace with Britain and France. He was determined, however,
>>>>to stamp out communism wherever he encountered it. Not only did
>>>>he hate communism on ideological grounds, but he had sworn to
>>>>fight communism when the communists in Germany betrayed his
>>>>country at the end of the First World War. Hitler also saw the
>>>>Soviet Union as a threat to all of Europe, and he was determined
>>>>to break the power of that country when he could, even though
>>>>there was an uneasy non-aggression pact between Germany and the
>>>>Soviet Union in 1939, at the time of their partition of Poland.

>>>>In the spring of 1941 massive troop movements and other
>>>>developments inside the Soviet Union convinced Hitler that Stalin
>>>>was preparing to invade the west with the Red Army, and so in
>>>>June 1941 Hitler made a preemptive strike. German forces smashed
 >>>>through the Red Army and made rapid advances, first through
>>>>Soviet-occupied eastern Poland and then through Ukraine and into
>>>>Russia.

>>>>A year and a half later, in February 1943, German forces near
>>>>Smolensk, in western Russia, investigated reports they heard from
>>>>Russian civilians to the effect that a large number of prisoners
>>>>had been murdered by the Soviet secret police in the area nearly
>>>>three years earlier. The German investigators were led by local
>>>>Russians to a series of mounds in a wooded area known locally as
>>>>Katyn Forest, about 10 miles west of Smolensk. The forest is
>>>>named for a village, Katyn, which it surrounds. The forest had
>>>>been privately owned prior to the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917,
>>>>but after the communist takeover of Russia the area had been
>>>>confiscated by the government and part of the forest had been
>>>>turned over to the NKVD, the Soviet equivalent of the American
>>>>FBI.

>>>>The Germans began digging in the mounds in the Katyn forest and
>>>>made a horrible discovery. They found corpse after corpse, each
>>>>with its hands bound behind its back and a bullet hole in the
 >>>>base of its skull. They continued their excavations for more than
>>>>a month, and eventually uncovered more than 4,000 corpses. Other
>>>>bodies may have remained buried in other mounds, but the Germans
>>>>had no time to dig up the whole forest. Instead they called in
>>>>the International Red Cross and representatives of various
>>>>neutral countries to examine their findings. They also brought in
>>>>groups of Allied prisoners of war, including Americans, from
>>>>prison camps in Germany to view the graves in the Katyn forest.
>>>>They gave these international inspectors complete freedom to
>>>>examine the exhumed bodies, permitted doctors among them to
>>>>conduct autopsies, even allowed them to dig up other bodies from
>>>>one of the mounds which had not been completely excavated. The
>>>>Germans asked only that the inspectors report back truthfully to
>>>>their own governments about their observations. And in fact, most
>>>>of them did.

>>>>What they reported was that the bodies were those of Polish
>>>>military officers, along with a number of civilian cultural and
>>>>business leaders and intellectuals -- scientists, writers, poets
>>>>-- who had been in the portion of Poland occupied by the Soviet
>>>>Union in September 1939. Altogether the Soviet secret police had
>>>>rounded up some 15,000 Polish leaders in 1939 -- including nearly
>>>>half of the entire Polish officer's corps, the half that had had
>>>>the misfortune of being in eastern Poland at the time -- and put
>>>>them in three concentration camps in Russia: at Starobelsk,
>>>>Kozelsk, and Ostashkov. All of the bodies unearthed in the
>>>>Katyn forest were of Polish leaders who had been confined at one
>>>>of these camps: Starobelsk.

>>>>Rounding up a country's leaders and killing them was standard
>>>>practice for the communists. The theory was that the leaders were
>>>>bourgeois oppressors of the working class and deserved to die. As
>>>>egalitarians the communists did not regard the Polish officers
>>>>and intellectuals as inherently better or more valuable human
>>>>material than the average Polish criminal or welfare bum; the
>>>>officers had simply used their class advantage to gain a better
>>>>life-style for themselves. Of course, no one really believed that
>>>>theory except the criminals and welfare bums and other resentful
>>>>losers and ne'er-do-wells who made up the natural communist
>>>>constituency. As a practical matter, however, killing all the
>>>>leaders and potential leaders of a conquered people made them
>>>>easier to govern. That's what the Marxists had done in Russia,
>>>>Ukraine, and the Baltic countries.

>>>>In the case of the Poles there was a bit of a diplomatic problem,
>>>>though. The Poles supported the war Britain and France had
>>>>declared against Germany, purportedly on their behalf, because
>>>>they viewed that as their one hope for getting back at least the
>>>>western part of their country. They were not happy about the
>>>>Russians taking the eastern part of Poland, but the Russians at
>>>>least were fellow Slavs. The thing to do was get rid of the
>>>>Germans first and then worry about the Russians. This Polish
>>>>strategy suited Stalin fine. But it made it desirable for him to
>>>>avoid alienating the Poles any more than necessary. When Polish
>>>>exiles asked about their imprisoned leaders in late 1939 and
>>>>early 1940, the Soviet government promised that they would be
>>>>released shortly. Meanwhile, the decision had been made to kill
>>>>all of them. And so in April 1940 the Polish leaders were taken
>>>>from the three camps where they had been imprisoned, trucked off
>>>>to various liquidation sites, and murdered. The ones who had been
>>>>imprisoned at Starobelsk all went to the NKVD area of the Katyn
>>>>forest. After the war some of the NKVD executioners were
>>>>interviewed in Israel and described how they had carried out the
>>>>killings.

>>>>The Poles were driven up to the burial pits in long NKVD prison
>>>>trucks known as "black ravens." They were pulled from the trucks
>>>>one at a time by NKVD guards. Each Polish prisoner had his hands
>>>>bound behind his back and then was dragged to the edge of a pit.
>>>>There he was held by two NKVD men while a third fired a pistol
>>>>bullet into the back of his head. Some of the officers had had
>>>>their coats pulled over their heads to keep them from seeing what
>>>>was happening before they were shot. Some struggled and were
>>>>bayonetted by NKVD guards before being shot and thrown into the
>>>>pit. When all of the officers from Starobelsk had been killed,
>>>>some 4,400 of them, the Katyn forest burial pits were covered
>>>>with dirt and pine trees were planted on them. The locations of
>>>>the mass graves of the prisoners from the camps at Kozelsk and
>>>>Ostashkov remain unknown, but none of the 15,000 Polish officers
>>>>and intellectuals rounded up by the NKVD in September 1939 was
>>>>seen alive after April 1940.

>>>>The Red Cross representatives and the Allied prisoners the
>>>>Germans brought in to examine the mass graves in the Katyn forest
>>>>understood after their examination not only who had been killed;
>>>>they also understood who had killed them. This was apparent not
>>>>only from the medical estimates of the length of time the bodies
>>>>had been buried, but also from documentary evidence on the
>>>>bodies. Diaries, news clippings, letters, and other personal
>>>>papers removed from the clothing of the victims all told the same
>>>>story: the latest dates on any of these papers were from
>>>>mid-April 1940. The Polish leaders had been killed in April 1940,
>>>>when they were prisoners of the Soviet Union and when the Katyn
>>>>region was under Soviet control. And this is what they reported
>>>>back to their governments.

>>>>So what do you think happened? Were the British and American
>>>>governments horrified to discover that their "gallant Soviet
>>>>ally," as the Soviet Union was referred to by the mass media, was
>>>>a mass murderer? Did the British government, which had gone to
>>>>war against Germany under the pretext of defending Poland, decide
>>>>that it had made a mistake? Did anyone condemn the Soviet Union
>>>>for this act of genocide against the Poles?

>>>>Of course not! The Allied governments ordered their people who
>>>>had inspected the Katyn site to keep their mouths shut, and the
>>>>Jewish media immediately began announcing that the Germans had
>>>>done it. A mass murder of Polish officers and intellectuals by
>>>>the Nazis had been discovered in the Katyn forest, the New York
>>>>Times and the rest of the Jewish media shrieked. Poor Poles!
>>>>Wicked Germans! The war must go on to free the poor Poles and
>>>>punish the wicked Germans. And the war did go on, killing
>>>>millions of more Germans, British, Americans, and other
>>>>Europeans. And the Germans were indeed punished. The Poles, of
>>>>course, were not freed. Instead they were turned over to the
>>>>Reds, who had butchered their leaders in the Katyn forest.

>>>>The war went on after the German discovery of the mass graves in
>>>>the Katyn forest, because its purpose from the beginning was not
>>>>to free Poland but to destroy Germany, which had dared to free
>>>>itself from the Jews. Roosevelt understood this. Churchill
>>>>understood this. But the American and British people didn't
>>>>understand it, of course, because they were lied to by the Jewish
>>>>media and by their own governments, who in 1943 as in 1998 have
>>>>done whatever has been politically expedient. And what has been
>>>>politically expedient has been what the Jewish media bosses have
>>>>decided.

>>>>The lies about Katyn were maintained by the media for some years
>>>>after the end of the war, because these lies meshed nicely with
>>>>the "Holocaust" story which was making so much money for the
>>>>Jews. Nowadays, of course, the truth about the Katyn murders is
>>>>generally accepted by historians everywhere. You can go into
>>>>almost any large library and read about it and even see the
>>>>gruesome photographs that the Germans took of the Polish bodies
>>>>they dug up. One of several authoritative books on the subject is
>>>>J.K. Zawodny's Death in the Forest: the Story of the Katyn
>>>>Forest Massacre, published in 1962 by the University of Notre
>>>>Dame Press. None of this is publicized a la Steven Spielberg, of
>>>>course, for the illumination of American television audiences. It
>>>>still might undermine the Jews' "Holocaust" racket.

>>>>In 1945 and 1946, although the deceived citizens of the western
>>>>world didn't know the truth about Katyn, Polish patriots did. The
>>>>word had gotten back to the Polish prisoners in German camps from
>>>>the Poles the Germans had taken to examine the graves. After the
>>>>war, when these Polish prisoners were freed, the word spread to
>>>>other Poles. They knew that it was the communists, not the Nazis,
>>>>who had murdered their leaders, who had beheaded their nation.
>>>>And they knew who was behind communism, from the Jew Karl Marx,
>>>>who had started the whole business, up to the Jewish commissars
>>>>who lorded it over them in Soviet-occupied Poland. They knew who
>>>>had welcomed their Soviet conquerors and then collaborated with
>>>>those conquerors. And so it is hardly surprising that in 1945 and
>>>>1946 a few Polish patriots organized lynchings of Jews in Poland,
>>>>before the Reds had a chance to clamp down on all of Poland and
>>>>suppress any further expressions of anti-communist or anti-Jewish
>>>>feeling.

>>>>No, the Polish dislike of Jews isn't surprising. What is
>>>>surprising is that so few patriots in America and Britain have
>>>>expressed their outrage against the Jews, not only for what they
>>>>did to the Poles during and after the war, but for what they have
>>>>done to us: lying to us and using us to wage their wars for them.
>>>>If patriots study the Katyn story and take its lesson to heart,
>>>>they will understand why they cannot trust either the mass media
>>>>or any government which dances to the tune played by the media.
>>>>Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill were as much liars and
>>>>traitors as Bill Clinton and Tony Blair.

>>>>Anyway, you might remember Katyn the next time you hear the Jews
>>>>or some of their bought politicians whining about how much gold
>>>>was stolen from them by the Swiss or how badly the Poles and the
>>>>Germans treated them during the Second World War.

>>>>The text above is based on a broadcast of the American Dissident
>>>>Voices radio program sponsored by National Vanguard Books. To
>>>>receive weekly ADV transcripts, mail: ADVlist@ListServe.com
>>>>Write "subscribe" as the subject of your message.
>>>>++++++++++++++

>>>>American Renaissance
>>>>http://www.amren.com

>>>>Campaign for Radical Truth in History
>>>>http://www.hoffman-info.com

>>>>National Alliance
>>>>http://www.natvan.com

>>>>Stormfront
>>>>http://www.stormfront.org

>>>>Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library
>>>>http://www.ddc.net/ygg


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
work:(780)492-0473

And also: George Firestone: "George" 

Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
for many years around the world.




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Poland and Latvia are to be commended, for their stand for traditional family
values.

They deserve praise for resisting the demands of the perverts and sub-humans,
trying to destroy traditional families.

Other countries believing in traditional Christianity, true judaism, or even
Islam, should all do as honest Poland and Latvia do - restrict the rights of
the disgusting perverts and AIDS-spreaders!!


On 19 Nov 2006 13:56:22 -0800, "Sound of Trumpet" 
wrote:

>http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1739775/posts

>Poland & Latvia must address LGBT issues

>GayNZ ^ | November 16, 2006

>Posted on 11/16/2006 10:41:46 AM PST by lizol

>Poland & Latvia must address LGBT issues

>Amnesty International is getting tough with new European Union
>countries over gay rights issues.

>"If the European Union wants 2007 to be "European Year of Equal
>Opportunities", it needs to ensure as of now that lesbian, gay,
>bisexual and transgender (LGBT) people can freely express, assemble and
>associate in countries such as Poland and Latvia", says Amnesty
>International.

>Amnesty International is concerned that despite public attention to a
>string of homophobic incidents - in some cases actions and statements
>by the very authorities of these countries - little has been done to
>redress the situation and guarantee the basic rights of LGBT persons.
>
>In Poland, the person who replaced the director for the national
>teaching agency - dismissed for accepting a standard Council of
>Europe manual on anti-discrimination - has recently declared that
>homosexuality is contrary to human nature. These examples contradict
>the assurances presented by the Polish President during his visit to
>Brussels in August.
>
>In Latvia, authorities have also failed to provide credible guarantees
>that homophobic incidents will not be tolerated. This summer's
>refusal to grant permission for the Riga Pride 2006 march on account
>that police could not assure the security of the participants is a
>worrying signal that authorities are not living up to their
>obligations.
>
>Also worrying was the two-hour delay of significant police presence at
>the hotel where participants of a conference on LGBT rights were being
>attacked by protesters.
>
>Amnesty International has asked the EU to support the right of freedom
>of assembly, including "Pride Marches" and similar events in all Member
>States; take concrete steps to monitor the implementation of EU
>standards against discrimination in Member States; and ensure that
>police cooperation in Europe includes training of law enforcement
>officials on how to address homophobic violence.



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Poland and Latvia are to be commended, for their stand for traditional family
values.

They deserve praise for resisting the demands of the perverts and sub-humans,
trying to destroy traditional families.

Other countries believing in traditional Christianity, true judaism, or even
Islam, should all do as honest Poland and Latvia do - restrict the rights of
the disgusting perverts and AIDS-spreaders!!


On 19 Nov 2006 13:56:22 -0800, "Sound of Trumpet" 
wrote:

>http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1739775/posts

>Poland & Latvia must address LGBT issues

>GayNZ ^ | November 16, 2006

>Posted on 11/16/2006 10:41:46 AM PST by lizol

>Poland & Latvia must address LGBT issues

>Amnesty International is getting tough with new European Union
>countries over gay rights issues.

>"If the European Union wants 2007 to be "European Year of Equal
>Opportunities", it needs to ensure as of now that lesbian, gay,
>bisexual and transgender (LGBT) people can freely express, assemble and
>associate in countries such as Poland and Latvia", says Amnesty
>International.

>Amnesty International is concerned that despite public attention to a
>string of homophobic incidents - in some cases actions and statements
>by the very authorities of these countries - little has been done to
>redress the situation and guarantee the basic rights of LGBT persons.
>
>In Poland, the person who replaced the director for the national
>teaching agency - dismissed for accepting a standard Council of
>Europe manual on anti-discrimination - has recently declared that
>homosexuality is contrary to human nature. These examples contradict
>the assurances presented by the Polish President during his visit to
>Brussels in August.
>
>In Latvia, authorities have also failed to provide credible guarantees
>that homophobic incidents will not be tolerated. This summer's
>refusal to grant permission for the Riga Pride 2006 march on account
>that police could not assure the security of the participants is a
>worrying signal that authorities are not living up to their
>obligations.
>
>Also worrying was the two-hour delay of significant police presence at
>the hotel where participants of a conference on LGBT rights were being
>attacked by protesters.
>
>Amnesty International has asked the EU to support the right of freedom
>of assembly, including "Pride Marches" and similar events in all Member
>States; take concrete steps to monitor the implementation of EU
>standards against discrimination in Member States; and ensure that
>police cooperation in Europe includes training of law enforcement
>officials on how to address homophobic violence.



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On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:33:28 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>>Another significant article that merits discussion!!!
>>On Fri, 19 Sep 1997 13:15:13 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI
>> wrote:

Just a moment ago, on soc.culture.polish,
Dr. J. Ilicki, Associate Professor of Sociology
and Judaic Studies on Upsalla University raised
the question of Polish Polish in the service of
Germans during occupation of Poland.  The only
reason for this question at this time seems to be
his need to stir interethnic hatered.  Provocatively,
Dr. Ilicki asks:
1) who were the members of the
police, volunteers or draftees?,

2) what was their social status?

3) what happened to them after the war?

Just to play completely innocent (and dumb) he also asks
why they were called Granatowa (dark-navy-blue) Police.

Only naive will believe that Prof. Ilicki does not
know the answers.
Also only naive will believe that he is not interested
in Pinsk the hometown of his parents and allegedly
the site of the burial of his grandparents and over
30,000 pinksers (Jews from Pinsk).  He admitted
 that his mother listed them as killed there with
Yad Vashem.  However, young (about 40 years old)
Julian pretends disintrest, because he is afraid that
exhumations might start at the alleged burial site
and will find no skeletons as same happened last
year at nearby Mariompole, presently in Lithuania.

But coming back to Dr Illicki question: Polish Police
during German occupation was  dramatically reduced
in numbers and pre-war policemen were forced to
serve as an auxillary force to German Ordnung Polizei.
They were ususally not armed,and when armed never
given more than five bullets for their long rifles.
Moreover, after each use of firearm they
(as well as the Ukraininan Police) had to write
a report for what target each bullet was used
and with what effectivness, hardly an invitation to
 the genocide.

Hardly truth to Pawlikowski's story too.

On the other hand there was a police force in
the Third Reich, in which service was completely
voluntary.  It was called Ordnungdienst.  Their
emblem was a light alloy Star of David.  The
social background of these Jewish collaborators
according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18%
with post-graduate degrees,  60% with college degree,
20% with elementary education.  These are data
>from self-serving, post-war questionaries.

But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the
requirement was that EACH Jewish policeman
has at least matura (two years of college)
see page 489 of his book.  In practice, the
Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
journalist who with the day of German
occupation immediately were fired from
their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because
the schools were closed.

The service was voluntary. Take the job and keep
your life a little longer or die now!

Pawlikowski forgot how the Soviets were conscripted.
Under Stalin they ran to enlist hoping to avoid being
killed in the next "relocation"!

While Polish teachers joined the underground,
unemployed Jewish intelligentia clamored for the police work.

Some of it was really gruesome as your remember
>from our previous description of the Feb. 1942
execution on Rybna Street market place in Lodz.
German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown
endlessly in Wisenthal Museum in LA.  Thousands
of Jews standing and watching behind three
uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered
pistols facing Jewish crowd and about to be hanged
women passing out and forced into
the noose by Jewish Police

Jozef Pawlikowski

Herman


"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
is a revolutionary act."
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'


I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
I like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, PAMYAT, HAMAS or Aryan Nations,etc.

CALL late nights best, or even VISIT me:
Donald Ray Ellis
aka Pat Blakely/RevWhite/Mike Kalvatis/Rob Stewart ET AL
108 E. Victory Street
Star City, Arkansas 71667
Tel: (870) 628-1437
Email: voiceofreason@blakely.harrogate.net

My associate in Canada, who is like me, is:
Dr Laurence B. Shiff (Nazihunter)
327 Cortleigh Boulevard
Toronto, Ontario M5N 1R2 CA
Tel: 416-785-4574.

alternate

KASPU COM
2788 Bathurst St.
Toronto, Ontario m6b3a3 CA
Tel: 416-789-5691
(FAX) 416-789-5691
E-Mail: shiff@kaspu.com


First,let us kill all the lawyers! - W.Shakespeare
First, we get rid of all the politicians! - Mao tse Dung
Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled-as fertiliser!! Me

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
is a revolutionary act."
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org


Posted courtesy of : Paul Kneisel, who likes late
night discussions, even from Christian Identity,
Pamyat, Aryan Nations, Stormfront, HAMAS, etc.
I am together with McVay ,L.Schiff,and Boris Dynin
regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.

CALL, best late nights (718)390-8692
or even VISIT me:
54 Wall St,
Staten Island, NY 10301-1869

My business contact is:
tallpaul@NYCT.NET
NAMBLA.org
200 East Tenth Street #603
New York,, NY 10003
(212)-568-6690


Posted by: Boris Dynin = NAMBLA executive &
Henry who like
late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.


CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
Email me: boris@movil.com , or even
VISIT me at:
55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco  94132

Ken McVay invites callers to his homosexuals escorts office:
1-250-616-9431
Or, VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?

http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg


Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to work:(780)492-0473


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the website for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Or, other useful websites include:
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HOLODOMOR
The Forgiven Holocaust of 1932-33

1932 1933 YEARS OF ARTIFICIAL FAMINE IN UKRAINE CREATED 
BY THE MUSCOVITE OCCUPIERS
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PICTURE: http://www.ukar.org/famine01.gif
(Oksana Procyk, Leonid Heretz, and James E. Mace, Famine in the Soviet Ukraine
1932-1933: A Memorial Exhibition, Widener Library Harvard University, Harvard
University Press, Cambridge Massachusetts, 1986, p. 71)

In selecting documents for inclusion in the Famine Archive, I have adhered to
the general Ukrainian Archive policy of allowing room for opposing points of
view.  In order for an accurate picture of the Famine to emerge, it is
essential that opposing arguments be recognized and either confirmed or
disconfirmed; and if, upon occasion, descriptions of the Ukrainian famine have
been inaccurate,
then having this pointed out by critics constitutes a valuable contribution
toward arriving at a true account.

To fear and to inhibit opposing arguments, or the correction of errors, might
seem necessary only to those who worry that the Ukrainian Terror Famine has
never occurred, or who fear that permitting corrections will cast the entire
story into doubt.  But such worries and fears are groundless.  Errors,
contradictions, exaggerations — all of these enter in to cloud our perception
of every historical event, and to expect otherwise with respect to the
Ukrainian Terror Famine would be unrealistic.

Therefore, where criticism of certain Famine accounts is warranted, the
criticism must be greeted as providing a useful guide as to how to improve the
quality of future accounts.  Where any inaccuracies have been introduced by
the press, then this might be taken as an indication that the press needs to
be both monitored and educated.  Where inaccuracies have been introduced by
writers contracted primarily because of their fame, then this might be taken
as a
warning that buying fame is not the same as buying historical fidelity.

Finally, in the case where facts are simply created out of thin air by Soviet
or Russian representatives, then a sampling of even this too is not
inappropriate — or else the reader would be left with no awareness that any
dispute is possible, and so would go out into the world less prepared for the
disinformation that he is certain to meet there.

http://www.ukar.org/famine06.htm
Collectivization and the famine
BY BOHDAN KRAWCHENKO
UKRAINE FAMINE 1933
Special Edition issued by the
Ukrainian Canadian Committee
Edmonton Branch
October 14, 1983

In 1932 and 1933 millions of people in Ukraine died of hunger.  Unlike most
famines, the one in Ukraine was not caused by some natural calamity or crop
failure, but was man-made.

The 1920s — "Golden Era"

     The peasantry — about 80 per cent of Ukraine's population — had fought
pitched battles against landlords during the 1917 revolution to realize its
age-old dream of owning land.

     When in 1918-19 the Bolsheviks occupied Ukraine and made their first bid
to collectivize peasant land, the Ukrainian peasants resisted so fiercely that
Lenin ordered "severe punishment" for any Bolshevik who preached
collectivization.  During the 1920s, peasants organized voluntary cooperatives
and agriculture thrived.

     In this period the Ukrainian people forced the Bolsheviks to change their
nationality policy.  The Ukrainian language displaced Russian in education,
state administration and the mass media.

     Ukrainians were recruited into the party and government.  Within the
Communist Party of Ukraine there developed a powerful Ukrainian wing which
demanded an end to Russian domination in economic and political life.

     Stalin's policies in 1929 brought the "golden era" to an end

Collectivization
     In 1928 Stalin suddenly announced accelerated industrialization in the
form of the first five-year plan.  The plan was hastily put together and, as a
result, billions of rubles were wasted.

     By 1930 it became clear that Stalin's government was running out of
funds.
Rather than rethink economic strategies, Stalin ordered more grain to be
squeezed out of the peasantry.

     The quickest method of accomplishing this, according to Stalin, was to
establish collective farms by expropriating all peasant land, grain reserves
and livestock without compensation.  Also, collective farms would have to turn
over all their produce to the state.

     Interestingly enough, when the Nazis occupied Ukraine, they did not
abolish collective farms: they appreciated this finely tuned instrument for
the exploitation of the peasantry.

     In Ukraine, collectivization had another aim: to "destroy the social
basis of Ukrainian nationalism — individual peasant agriculture," according to
the Soviet newspaper Proletarska Pravda, (22.1.1930).

     It was in 1930 as well that Stalin ordered the first of a series of
purges of Ukrainian cultural and political figures — all part and parcel of a
program to roll back the achievements of the national revival of the 1920s.

The campaign against kulaks
     An essential component of forced collectivization, according to Stalin,
was the "elimination of kulaks as a class."

     The word kulak conjures up an image of a wealthy, grasping peasant.  The
reality had little in common with the myth.

     In the 1920s there were laws banning the sale and purchase of land and of
its rent.  Land was distributed on the basis of the size of the peasant
family.
Some peasant households did, of course, own more land than others.  But these
households also had larger families to support.

     Compare the richest kulak in Ukraine with an industrial worker.  In the
mid-1920s the average annual income per working peasant in the richest peasant
farm in Ukraine (comprising about 30 acres) was 200 rubles.  The average
worker, by contrast, made 521 rubles a year and received many social-security
benefits which were not available to the peasantry.

     When the campaign against kulaks began, the Soviet regime was at a loss
for a definition of the term and produced an arbitrary set of criteria.  For
example, a household owning a motor of any kind was classified as belonging to
the kulak category.

     Neither were kulaks those who hired labor.  As the Russian demographer M.
Maksudov has shown, the majority of those employing labor in the countryside
were invalids of the First World War and the revolution, widows and families
with few children.

     The campaign against kulaks, therefore, had little to do with economic
considerations.  "Dekulakization" was intended to rid the countryside of
peasants (irrespective of their material standing) who were most likely to
organize and lead resistance to forced collectivization.

     According to official Soviet surveys, Ukraine had 71,500 kulak households
in 1929.  But according to official Soviet sources, between 1930 and 1932,
200,000 kulak households or one million people were "eliminated."  The plan
for the destruction of kulaks was overfulfilled by almost 200 per cent.

The deportations
     Those who resisted collectivization were either executed or sent to
prison camps and their families were deported to Siberia or the Russian Arctic
circle.
Peasant activists were deported with their families to the northern regions of
Russian.

     Here is what some eyewitnesses wrote about their experiences: "Barefooted
and poorly clad peasants were jammed into railroad cars and transported to the
regions of Murmansk and the like.  Peasants were unloaded into snow about two
metres deep.  The frost stood at 75 degrees below zero.  Without even an axe
or a saw we began building huts from tree branches.  In two weeks all the
children, the sick and the elderly had frozen to death."

     The death rate among Ukrainian peasants deported to the Sverdlovsk region
in Russia was typical: only 2,300 of the original group of 4,800 survived the
winter.

     The suffering during the deportations was terrible enough, yet it pales
in comparison with what happened during the famine of 1932-33.

Grain requisition campaigns
     By the spring of 1930 peasant resistance to collectivization had reached
such proportions that Stalin panicked and ordered a temporary retreat.  In an
article entitled "Dizzy with Success," he admitted that excesses had occurred
and falsely pinned the entire blame on local officials.  Moreover, he
reassured the peasants that membership in collective farms henceforth would be
"voluntary."

     In the spring of 1930 there occurred a mass exodus of peasants from
collective farms.  Thinking that Stalin's regime had learned its lesson,
peasants worked with a will and brought in an excellent harvest — 23.1 million
(metric) tons of grain.

     But in the autumn of 1930 Stalin again changed course.  He ordered the
drive for collectivization to be resumed and the maximum amount of grain to be
taken out of Ukraine.  A third of the harvest, or 7.7 million tons of grain,
was taken by the state.

     The renewed collectivization drive produced chaos in agricultural
production.  The peasantry was given no incentive to produce.  By the end of
1930, for example, 78 per cent of collective farms in Ukraine had failed to
pay peasants for the days that they had worked.  Ironically, peasants' payment
in Ukraine (in kilos of food produce) was half what it was in Russia.
Reassured by his success of 1930, Stalin ordered the 1931 quota for grain
delivery to the state to be set at the same level — 7.7 million tons.

     The 1931 harvest, however — 18.3 million tons of grain — was 20 per cent
smaller than in 1930.  Almost 30 per cent of the harvest was lost because of
the breakdown of the transportation system.

     Intent on exporting grain to finance industrialization, Stalin ordered
that it be requisitioned whatever the cost to the peasantry.

     By the early spring of 1932, 7 million tons had been taken.  The amount
was so great that the republic was short of seed grain by 45 per cent.

     Ukrainian officials knew that if the rate of grain requisitioning
continued, famine would break out.  They argued with Moscow for a major
downward revision of Ukraine's agricultural obligations for 1932.

     M. Skrypnyk, Commissar of Education, in July 1932 recounted how, while
touring the Ukrainian countryside, he had heard from peasants that "we had
everything taken away from us but the broom."  V. Chubar, head of the
Ukrainian government, insisted that neither the peasants nor his
administration were at fault for the agricultural crisis, but that it was due
to the unrealistic plans of Moscow.

     Stalin did lower the amount of grain to be requisitioned in 1932 to 6.2
million tons, but this was still far above the capacities of the Ukraine in
view of that year's poor harvest — 14.6 tons.

     Neither did Stalin relax the collectivization drive and, as a result,
agriculture was plagued by chaos.  Millions of tons of grain were lost.

Tightening the noose
     Moscow sent a special mission, accompanied by troops, to oversee the 1932
grain requisition.

     Collective farms stopped distributing food to peasants.  For example,
according to official statistics, only five per cent of collective farms in
Dnipropetrovsk province handed out food produce for days worked in 1932.

     To prevent peasants from feeding themselves by taking collective farm
produce, a law was passed in August 1932 stipulating the death penalty, and
under exceptional circumstances, a ten-year sentence in labor camps for "theft
of socialist property."  Thus, it was reported in the Soviet press (Visti,
10.11.1932) that the Dnipropetrovsk court had sentenced a group of hungry
peasants to the firing squad for the theft of a sack of wheat.

     An obligatory delivery system was established for each collective farm.
The harvest was organized in the form of a military operation, with soldiers
guarding grain from the peasants.  Officials and peasants who did not fulfill
their quotas were treated in accordance with the infamous August 1932 decree.

     On 17 December 1932 regulations were tightened even further.  A complete
economic blockade was ordered of villages that did not fulfil their
obligations to the state: all trade, all shipments of food and consumer goods,
whatever their source, were prohibited.

     Officials, wrote Malcolm Muggeridge, "had gone over the country like a
swarm of locusts and taken away everything edible; they shot and exiled
thousands of peasants, sometimes whole villages; they have reduced some of the
most fertile land in the whole world to a melancholy desert."

Could have been avoided
     The famine finally subsided in 1934, when the 1933 harvest was brought
in.
This was because, in the spring of 1933, Moscow "lent" Ukraine seed grain.
Moscow also reduced the quantity of grain to be delivered to the state to five
million tons, about one-quarter of the 1933 harvest.

     Soviet officials today deny that the famine took place, although they do
admit that there were problems due to drought.

     If that was the case, then Ukraine should have suffered a famine in 1934,
not in 1932-33.  The 1934 harvest was the worst in many years — 12.3 million
tons.

     But there was no famine in 1934 because Stalin reduced the amount of
grain from existing stocks to feed the population.  He could have done this in
1932-33, but he did not.  Instead, he deliberately exported 1.7 million tons
of grain to the West to pay for industrial equipment.

     The offers of international relief organizations to assist the starving
in Ukraine were rejected by the Soviet government on the grounds that there
was no famine, hence no need to aid its victims.

     The borders of Ukraine were closely patrolled and starving Ukrainian
peasants were not allowed to cross into Russia in search of bread.

The toll
     How many millions perished?

     Harry Lang, editor of the left-wing Jewish daily Forward, published in
New York, visited Ukraine in 1933 and was told by a high-ranking state
official that six million people had perished from the famine.

     Other estimates range from 6.5 to 8.5 million.  We will never know the
exact number.

     We do know that according to the 1926 Soviet population census there were
31.2 million Ukrainians in the U.S.S.R.  According to the 1939 Soviet census
this number had dropped by 3.1 million to 28.1 million.  (There was no
emigration from the Soviet Ukraine in this period.)  Over a 13-year period,
according to Soviet statistics, the number of Ukrainians had diminished by 11
per cent.  The population of the U.S.S.R., on the other hand, increased by 16
per cent and the number of Russians by 28 per cent.

A national tragedy
     When the Ukrainian peasantry was under attack in 1932-33, Ukrainian
political and cultural leaders sprang to their defense.  Ewald Ammende, a
German eyewitness who analysed this question, wrote in 1936: "The widest
circle of the Ukrainian intelligentsia had entered the struggle: teachers,
students, Soviet officials, all thought it was their duty to protest against a
further sucking dry of their country....  The Soviet regime was faced by a
united people, a solid front, including everyone from the highest Soviet
officials down to the poorest peasants."

     Ukrainian cultural and political leaders paid a heavy price for refusing
to become unwilling agents in the extermination of their own people.

     In 1933, at the height of the famine, a massive purge was ordered in
Ukraine.  As P. Postyshev, Stalin's henchman in Ukraine, pointed out, "almost
all people removed were arrested and put before the firing squad."

     The purge continued virtually uninterrupted until 1938, claiming the
lives of 80 per cent of Ukraine's creative intelligentsia.  Thousands of
priests of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church were killed, as were that church's 35
bishops.

     The desire to stamp out a Ukrainian national consciousness was so extreme
that, according to the famous Russian composer, Dmitrii Shostakovich, several
hundred blind bandurysty — itinerant folk singers — were executed.

     Hundreds of thousands of party members were shot.  The purge was so
thorough that by 1938 not a single secretary of the Council of the People's
Commissars in Ukraine (the cabinet), not even a single deputy of Ukraine's
parliament, the Supreme Soviet, was left.

     The purges were intended to deal a devastating blow to the existence of
Ukrainians as a nation.  At the 20th Party Congress in 1956 Khrushchev said
Stalin had even considered deporting all Ukrainians to Siberia, but "there
were too many of them and there was no place to which to deport them."

     With the famine and the purges, Stalin had come as close to destroying a
nation as his unrestrained power would permit.



http://www.ukar.org/famine07.htm
Stalin's Famine in Ukraine
MALCOLM MUGGERIDGE
UKRAINE FAMINE 1933
Special Edition issued by the
Ukrainian Canadian Committee
Edmonton Branch
October 14, 1983

"The novelty of this particular famine, what made it so diabolical, is that it
was the deliberate creation of a bureaucratic mind, without any consideration
whatever of the consequences of human suffering," Malcolm Muggeridge said.

He was talking about the genocidal famine that swept Ukraine in the winter on
1932 and the spring and summer of 1933.

Muggeridge was there that terrible winter and spring.  As a correspondent for
the Manchester Guardian in Moscow, he was one of the few Western journalists
who circumvented Soviet restrictions and visited the famine regions and then
honestly reported what he had seen.

Marco Carynnyk talked to Muggeridge at his cottage in Sussex, England.

Why did you decide to write about the famine in Ukraine?

It was the big story in all our talks in Moscow.  Everybody knew about it.
There was no question about that.  Anyone you were talking to knew that there
was a terrible famine going on.  Even in the Soviets' own pieces there were
somewhat disguised acknowledgements of great difficulties there.

I realized that that was the big story.  I could also see that all the
correspondents in Moscow were distorting it.

Without making any kind of plans or asking for permission I just went and got
a ticket for Kiev and then went on to Rostov.  The Soviet security is not as
good as people think it is.  If you once duck it, you can go quite a long way.
At least you could in those days.

Going through the countryside by train one could sense the state of affairs.
Ukraine was starving, and you only had to venture out to smaller places to see
derelict fields and abandoned villages.

On one occasion, I was changing trains, and I went wandering around, and in
one of the trains in the station, the kulaks were being loaded onto the train,
and there were military men all along the platform.

I'll tell you another thing that's more difficult to convey, but it impressed
me enormously.  It was on a Sunday in Kiev, and I went into the church there
for the Orthodox mass.  I could understand very little of it, but there was
some spirit in it that I have never come across before or after.  Human beings
at the end of their tether were saying to God, "We come to you, we're in
trouble, nobody by You can help us."

What were you thinking and, more importantly perhaps, what were you feeling
when you saw those scenes of starvation and privation in Ukraine?  How does
one respond in such a situation?

First of all, one feels a deep, deep, deep sympathy with and pity for the
sufferers.  Human beings look very tragic when they are starving.  And
remember that I wasn't unaware of what things were like because in India, for
instance, I've been in a village during a cholera epidemic and seen people
similarly placed.  So it wasn't a complete novelty.

The novelty of this particular famine, what made it so diabolical, is that it
was not the result of some catastrophe like a drought or an epidemic.  It was
the deliberate creation of a bureaucratic mind which demanded the
collectivization of agriculture, immediately, as a purely theoretical
proposition, without any consideration whatever of the consequences in human
suffering.

That was what I found so terrifying.  Think of a man in an office who has been
ordered to collectivize agriculture and get rid of the kulaks without any
clear notion or definition of what a kulak is, and who has in what was then
the GPU and is now the KGB the instrument for doing this, and who then
announces it in the slavish press as one of the great triumphs of the regime.

Given the deliberate nature of the famine in Ukraine, given the fact that food
continued to be stockpiled and exported even as people dropped dead on the
streets, is it accurate to talk about this as a famine?  Is it perhaps
something else?  How does one describe an event of such magnitude?

Perhaps you do need another word.  I don't know what it would be.  The word
‘famine' means people have nothing whatsoever to eat and consume things that
are not normally consumed.  Of course there were stories of cannibalism there.
I don't know whether they were true, but they were very widely believed.
Certainly the eating of cattle and the consequent complete destruction of
whatever economy the farms still had was true.

I remember someone telling me how all manners and finesse disappeared.  When
you're in the grip of a thing like this and you know that someone's got food,
you go and steal it.  You'll even murder to get it.  That's all part of the
horror.

How does one rank the famine of 1933 with other great catastrophes?

I think it's very difficult to make a table of comparison.  What I would say
with complete truth and sincerity is that as a journalist over the last half
century I have seen some pretty awful things.

But the famine is the most terrible thing I have ever seen, precisely because
of the deliberation with which it was done and the total absence of any
sympathy with the people.  To mention it or to sympathize with the people
would mean to go to the Gulag, because then you were criticizing the great
Stalin's project and indicating that you thought it a failure, when allegedly
it was a stupendous success and enormously strengthened the Soviet Union.

What sort of response did you encounter when you came back from the Soviet
Union and published your findings, particularly from people close to you, like
the Webbs.?

The Webbs were furious about it.  Mrs. Webb in her diary puts in a sentence
which gives the whole show away.  She says, "Malcolm has come back with
stories about a terrible famine in the USSR.  I have been to see Mr. Maisky
(the Soviet ambassador in Britain) about it, and I realize that he's got it
absolutely wrong."  Who would suppose that Mr. Maisky would say, "No, no, of
course he's right"?

You published Winter in Moscow when you got back from the Soviet Union, and
you were attacked in the press for your views.

Very strongly.  And I couldn't get a job.

Why was that?  Because people found your reports hard to believe?

No, the press was not overtly pro-Soviet, but it was, as it is now,
essentially sympathetic with that side and distrustful of any serious attack
on it.

How do you explain this sympathy?

It's something I've written and thought about a great deal, and I think that
the liberal mind is attracted by this sort of regime.  My wife's aunt was
Beatrice Webb, and she and Sidney Webb wrote the classic pro-Soviet book,
Soviet Communism: A New Civilization.  And so one saw close at hand the degree
to which they all knew about the regime, knew all about the Cheka (the secret
police) and everything, but they liked it.

I think that those people believe in power.  It was put to me very succinctly
when we were taken down to Kharkiv for the opening of the Dnieper dam.  There
was an American colonel who was running it, building the dam in effect.  "How
do you like it here?" I asked him, thinking that I'd get a wonderful blast of
him saying how he absolutely hated it.  "I think it's wonderful," he said.
"You never get any labor trouble."

This will be one of the great puzzles of posterity in looking back on this
age, to understand why the liberal mind, the Manchester Guardian mind, the New
Republic mind, should feel such enormous sympathy with this authoritarian
regime.

You are implying that the liberal intelligentsia did not simply overlook the
regime's brutality, but actually admired and liked it.

Yes, I'm saying that, although they wouldn't have admitted it, perhaps not
even to themselves.  I remember Mrs. Webb, who after all was a very cultivated
upper-class liberal-minded person, an early member of the Fabian Society and
so on, saying to me, "Yes, it's true, people disappear in Russia."  She said
it with such great satisfaction that I couldn't help thinking that there were
a lot of people in England whose disappearance she would have liked to
organize.

No, it's an everlasting mystery to me how one after the other, the
intelligentsia of the Western world, the Americans, the Germans, even the
French, fell for this thing to such an extraordinary degree.



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The Jewishness of the Ukrainian Holocaust[HOLODOMOR]

Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat the same mistakes.

http://www.ukrweekly.com/Archive/1996/219621.shtml
(Link active February 10, 2001)

"Let the chips fall where they may. The inordinate role played by Jews in
bringing Bolshevism to power is certainly a topic worthy of further
exploration."

FACES AND PLACES

by Myron B. Kuropas
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ghostbusting in Ukraine

A funny thing. No sooner does my commentary on Communist ghosts appear in
The Ukrainian Weekly than Ukraine responds.

Any connection? In your dreams, Kuropas.

But it's reassuring to learn that 68 democrats in Ukraine's Parliament
have neither forgiven nor forgotten the ethnocide perpetrated by the
Bolsheviks against the Ukrainian people.

Led by Lev Lukianenko, Yevhen Proniuk and Les Taniuk, the 68
parliamentarians have established Nuremberg II. The purpose, reports
Chrystyna Lapychak in a May 6 story carried by the service UNIAR press, is
to organize a symbolic international trial on crimes committed by the
former Communist Party of the Soviet Union and the Communist Party of
Ukraine. "The legislators plan to use the caucus to collect evidence, hold
public hearings and conferences, and maintain links with parliaments of
other former Soviet republics," reads the release.

It's a brilliant move. Since it's probably unrealistic to assume that,
given the present dominance of the Communist nomenklatura, Ukraine will
soon, if ever, bring anyone to trial, it is at least possible to document
Ukraine's Bolshevik barbarism.

Ukraine needs to authenticate these historical antecedents in some formal
way. The recent past needs to be recorded in its entirety for three major
reasons:
1) to expose the bestial Bolshevik abominations in all their horror in the
hope that they will never be repeated (communism won't go away unless a
silver spike is driven through its wretched heart);
2) academics, both in Ukraine and elsewhere, seem to be shying away from
writing the truth about Ukraine's Bolshevik past;
3) Ukraine can no longer pretend that what transpired between 1920 and
1991 was a mere aberration in a long history. It wasn't. Before Ukraine
can be whole again, past realities, as painful as they may be, must be
addressed.

We in North America can assist Ukraine's ghostbusters in a number of ways.
Dr. Lev Dobriansky's proposal to establish a Holocaust-type museum that
could serve as a reminder of Communist malevolence is an idea worthy of
our support...

Publications in the English language are another way we in North America
can help. There are countless areas that could use the light of truth. We
could begin with the story behind the Russian Bolshevik invasion of
Ukraine, its forced incorporation into the USSR, and the subsequent
annihilation of hundreds of Ukraine's own nationally oriented Bolsheviks
as well as thousands of scholars, editors, teachers and others whose
loyalty to Ukraine superseded loyalty to Lenin and Stalin.

Let the chips fall where they may. The inordinate role played by Jews in
bringing Bolshevism to power is certainly a topic worthy of further
exploration.

Another aspect of this early Bolshevik period was the total destruction of
the Ukrainian Autocephalous Orthodox Church, which resulted in Siberian
exile or death for thousands of priests and prelates. This history has yet
to be written.

The famine, of course, also requires further research. Yes, there already
are excellent publications on the famine, but we need more. There are
hundreds of books on the Jewish Holocaust. There should also be hundreds
of books on the Ukrainian famine, a malefaction that has no equal in world
history.

There are some excellent books on the killing fields of Vinnytsia as well,
but more documentation is required. We know that in 1943, approximately
9,000 Soviet citizens were found buried in mass graves in the Ukrainian
city of Vinnytsia. It was later established that they were executed by the
Bolsheviks during the years 1937 and 1938. Significantly, none of the
persons killed had been sentenced to death. "In cases where an official
conviction could be linked to a victim," writes Ihor Kamenetsky in "The
Tragedy of Vinnytsia," "either