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Rob Welldumb, while stealing time and internet from his employers,
J.R.Paine, still refuses to discuss the subject.

Are his employers aware of the theft of company assets by Welldumb, 
or should we all phone them to let them know?
Or, email them at jrp@jrp.ca?



On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 13:28:28 GMT, "Robert Weldon"
 wrote:
>"MattMandel"  wrote in message 
>news:i6kef2lf5dtvborcpbmpuhkoefi4pkom58@4ax.com...
>> Rob Welldumb, while stealing time and internet from his employers,
>> J.R.Paine, still refuses to discuss the subject.
>>
>> Are his employers aware of the theft of company assets by Welldumb, or
>> should we all phone them to let them know?
>> Or, email them at jrp@jrp.ca?
>>
>
>Look at the time stamp, you stupid racist asshole.
>
>>
>> On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:50:53 GMT, ChrisO'Neill
>>  wrote:
>>
>>>On 25 Mar 2006 00:36:51 -0000, arielv2  wrote:
>>
>>>>Notice that Ted had listed at least 2 different Friedman
>>>>JEW CHILD MOLESTERS!!
>>
>>>>Are these Friedmans related to the pervert Stuart Friedman, former cantor 
>>>>of
>>>>the synagogue in Halifax, Canada?
>>
>>>>He is the one caught as a major international distributor of KIDDIE PORN, 
>>>>from
>>>>his synagogue. THE CANADIAN COPS ALLOWED THIS FILTHY CRIMINAL to flee 
>>>>back to Boston,
>>>>where the FBI picked him up!!
>>
>>>YET A WHITE CRIMINAL DOING THE SAME, IN EDMONTON, IS GIVEN 3 1/2 YEARS
>>>PRISON!!
>>>Why wasn't the ZYD given similar jail time?
>> ________________________________________
>>>>On 31 Dec 2005 11:49:41 -0800, "Iamhere"  wrote:
>>
>>>>>If your piece is fact, what is the major deal about one Jewish pervert
>>>>>vis a vis the thousands of priests who earned their prayer beads by
>>>>>buggering little boys? I say you are a goyische hypocrite.
>>>>>Iamhere
>>>>>======================================================================================
>>>>>Ted Dichtler wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 10:11:31 -0700, ariadne 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> Are these Friedmans related to the pervert Stuart Friedman, former
>>>>>> cantor of the synagogue in Halifax, Canada?
>>
>>>>>> He is the one caught as a major international DISTRIBUTOR of KIDDIE
>>>>>> PORN, from his synagogue. The Canadian cops allowed him to flee back
>>>>>> to Boston, where the FBI picked him up!!
>>
>>>>>> Story as reported by newspaper follows:
>>>>>> kenmcvay  Feb 14 1999, 1:00 am
>>>>>> Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish, soc.culture.russian, 
>>>>>> soc.culture.ukrainian,
>>>>>> soc.culture.palestine
>>>>>> From: kenmc...@in.vino.veritas.lies
>>>>>> Date: 1999/02/14
>>>>>> Subject: Re: NIZKOR Supports ZHID Kiddie Porn Distributor from 
>>>>>> Synangogue
>>>>>> On Thu, 25 Sep 1997 17:16:03 GMT, odess...@direct.ca wrote:
>>>>>> >On Thu, 25 Sep 1997 01:55:53 -0500, jacob bekker 
>>>>>> >wrote:
>>
>>>>>> >>If that was "A Polish school teacher at a Halifax church..." than it 
>>>>>> >>was O.K.
>>>>>> >>J.B.
>>>>>> >No, it would not be OK, no matter who is the pervert.
>>
>>>>>> >What is of concern, is whether the 3 NON-JEWS presently charged with
>>>>>> >similar crimes, will now also be allowed to leave Canada, without
>>>>>> >having to spend the normal 5 years in prison?
>>
>>>>>> >Or, is this generosity only available to damn JEW KIDDIE PORN
>>>>>> >DISTRIBUTORS, especially if they are connected to a synagogue??
>>
>>>>>> >>> > wrote:
>>
>>>>>> ARREST SHOCKS SYNAGOGUE; TEACHER FLIES BACK TO U.S.
>>>>>> By EVA HOARE and AMY PUGSLEY FRASER Staff Reporters
>>
>>>>>> A Hebrew school teacher and cantor at a Halifax synagogue, who 
>>>>>> downloaded
>>>>>> hundreds of pornographic photographs of children from the Internet, 
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> fined $2,200 in court Tuesday.
>>
>>>>>> The fine was paid and Suart David Friedman, a
>>>>>> well-liked and respected member of the Beth Israel Synagogue, promptly 
>>>>>> left
>>>>>> the country for his native United States.
>>
>>>>>> It's the first charge of its kind in Nova Scotia and justice officials
>>>>>> hinted that Mr. Friedman's activities - downloading a personal fantasy
>>>>>> collection of boys performing sexual and sadomasochistic acts - could 
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> connected to an international child pornography ring.
>>
>>>>>> Mr. Friedman, 42, of South Park Street, Halifax, pleaded guilty to
>>>>>> possessing child pornography from the Internet. When Canada Customs 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> police officers arrested him during a raid on his apartment Monday, 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> cantor was surfing the Net. Although his private cache contained 
>>>>>> photographs
>>>>>> and videos - as well as gay and bondage magazines - the bulk of his
>>>>>> collection was 223 computer-generated photos of child pornography 
>>>>>> stored on
>>>>>> diskettes, on two computer hard drives, and on computer printouts.
>>
>>>>>> ``It's extremely disgusting,'' said Const. Gary Martin of the Halifax
>>>>>> Regional Police Service, whose officers also conducted a search of 
>>>>>> Chebucto
>>>>>> Freenet offices, Mr. Friedman's Internet provider. ``Ninety per cent 
>>>>>> of this
>>>>>> material was obtained either directly or indirectly through the 
>>>>>> Internet.
>>>>>> Some ... was directly downloaded from the Internet and some ... was 
>>>>>> obtained
>>>>>> from different groups that are within the Internet,'' Const. Martin 
>>>>>> said.
>>>>>> ``The pictures are very explicit. It covers just about every avenue of
>>>>>> pornography that's out there.''
>>
>>>>>> Canada Customs' intelligence division started working the case last
>>>>>> September and then brought in regional police, said Ed Osborne, 
>>>>>> customs'
>>>>>> regional intelligence officer.
>>
>>>>>> Now officers - who'll spend hundreds of hours poring over the 
>>>>>> materials -
>>>>>> want to know if any Nova Scotian children were depicted in the 
>>>>>> ``gruesome''
>>>>>> photos and material seized. But they do not expect that will be the 
>>>>>> case.
>>
>>>>>> Parents of children who attended the Hebrew school, shocked by the 
>>>>>> arrest,
>>>>>> planned to meet Tuesday night. ``As aware as people are that these 
>>>>>> things
>>>>>> can and do happen, it's still a shock,'' said Cathy Fox, president of 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Beth Israel Synagogue. Her three children - two sons and a daughter - 
>>>>>> were
>>>>>> taught by Mr. Friedman at the synagogue's Hebrew school. ``It's a very
>>>>>> difficult time.''
>>
>>>>>> The cantor - who leads the congregation in song - taught her 13- 
>>>>>> year-old
>>>>>> son songs and chants that were part of his bar mitzvah ceremony last
>>>>>> October, Mrs. Fox said.
>>
>>>>>> Some members will feel betrayed as a result of the charges. ``I think 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> elderly members of our congregation will be very hurt by this.'' Some 
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> appalled while others expressed sympathy. ``I'm very saddened,'' said 
>>>>>> Robert
>>>>>> Wolman, president of the synagogue's board of governors.
>>
>>>>>> Mr. Wolman said he and other board members heard about the case Monday 
>>>>>> night
>>>>>> and Mr. Friedman was immediately dismissed.
>>
>>>>>> Wearing an olive-colored trenchcoat and a black yarmulke (skull cap) 
>>>>>> over
>>>>>> his greying hair, a pale and visibly nervous Mr. Friedman was ushered 
>>>>>> into
>>>>>> provincial court by two sheriff's deputies. Refusing even to look up 
>>>>>> at the
>>>>>> judge, he stared resolutely at the floor while wringing his hands.
>>
>>>>>> ``This is the first (such) charge through our office,'' Crown attorney 
>>>>>> Frank
>>>>>> Hoskins told Judge Hughes Randall. ``But it sends a message out to the
>>>>>> public that if you're in possession of these images from your Internet 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> they're child pornography, you can be charged with a criminal offence 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> get a criminal record and a substantial fine,'' Mr. Hoskins said 
>>>>>> later.
>>
>>>>>> Article Segment 2 of 2
>>>>>> >>>>> HREF="http://xp5.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?recnum=%3c199701162146.NAA08...@mailmasher.com%3e%231/2&server=db96q5&CONTEXT=874940586.1932133778&hitnum=­192">(Ge
>>>>>> >>>>> HREF="http://xp5.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?recnum=%3c199701162146.NAA08...@mailmasher.com%3e&server=db96q5&CONTEXT=874940586.1932133778&hitnum=192">(Get 
>>>>>> All
>>
>>>>>> Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring in 
>>>>>> Canada
>>>>>> and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and
>>>>>> electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said.
>>
>>>>>> Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,'' 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second 
>>>>>> search
>>>>>> conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records.
>>
>>>>>> Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who 
>>>>>> co-operated
>>>>>> with police, was only using the material for his own sexual fantasies. 
>>>>>> ``His
>>>>>> intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the Crown.
>>
>>>>>> The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information that 
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr. 
>>>>>> Hoskins=
>>>>>> said.
>>
>>>>>> Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet
>>>>>> specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every 
>>>>>> angle at
>>>>>> this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does 
>>>>>> involve law
>>>>>> enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.''
>>
>>>>>> Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged 
>>>>>> distribution
>>>>>> of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American 
>>>>>> agencies
>>>>>> are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday, 
>>>>>> declined
>>>>>> comment.
>>
>>>>>> Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued at
>>>>>> $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine
>>>>>> ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were also
>>>>>> confiscated.
>>
>>>>>> After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight to 
>>>>>> Boston
>>>>>> to be with his family.
>>
>>>>>> Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence 
>>>>>> carries a
>>>>>> maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But 
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> did say there was a plea bargain.
>>
>>>>>> Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university, 
>>>>>> arrived
>>>>>> in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. 
>>>>>> His last
>>>>>> posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was to 
>>>>>> lead
>>>>>> prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah, 
>>>>>> has no
>>>>>> prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said.
>>
>>>>>> ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said 
>>>>>> Mrs. Fox,
>>>>>> who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it 
>>>>>> through
>>>>>> the media.
>>>>>> ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still 
>>>>>> thinking
>>>>>> about how we will handle this.''
>>
>>>>>> Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as 
>>>>>> soon as
>>>>>> possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future 
>>>>>> cantors.
>>
>>>>>> Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude or
>>>>>> partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the 
>>>>>> child-related
>>>>>> material.
>>
>>>>>> With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey
>>>>>> The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997.
>>
>>>>>> Join NSWPP mailing-list, go to:
>>>>>> http://www.nswpp.org/">http://www.nswpp.org
>>
>>
>>>>>> >On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 17:54:44 +0100, "mkarwan" 
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>> >>http://judicial-inc.biz/freidman_pedophiles_from_hell.htm
>>
>>>>>> >One Of Jewry's Most Explosive Incidences
>>
>>>>>> >Every now and then, there is a crime so ghastly, that even the Jewish 
>>>>>> >media
>>>>>> >control can't prevent the world from knowing. The crimes of the 
>>>>>> >Friedmans were
>>>>>> >so atrocious, that no string pulling was going to stop this 
>>>>>> >investigation.
>>
>>>>>> >They were running a day care in the morning, and teaching computers 
>>>>>> >to 8, 9,
>>>>>> >and 10 yr olds in the afternoon.
>>
>>>>>> >They were found to have molested  hundreds of children, and taken 
>>>>>> >extensive
>>>>>> >video and photographic files on their molestations.
>>
>>>>>> It seems that much of the pornography and especially KIDDIE PORN
>>>>>> rackets worldwide are run by the JEWS!
>>
>>>>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>>>>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>>
>>>>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>>
>>>>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>>>>is a revolutionary act."
>>>>(George Orwell)
>>
>>>>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>>
>>>>"All truth passes through three stages.
>>>>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>>>>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>>>>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>>
>>>>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>>>>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>>>>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>>>>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>>>>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant
>>
>>>>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>>>>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>>>>and impossible to ignore."
>>>>--John Bryant
>>
>>
>>
>>>>We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>>>>Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>>>>We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>>>>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>>
>>>>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>>>>office: VISIT at:
>>>>#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>>>>Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>>>>or call: 1-250-616-9431
>>
>>>>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>>>>called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
>>>>should give an indication as to the why.
>>
>>>>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>>>>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>>>>yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>>>>seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>>>>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>>>>moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>>>>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>>>>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>>
>>>>Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
>>>>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>>>>even if he or she were not naked"?
>>>>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>>
>>>>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>>>>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>>>>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>>>>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>>>>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>>>>to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>>
>>>>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>>>>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>>>>Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late 
>>>>nights.
>>
>>>>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>>>>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>>>>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
>>>>send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>>>>work:(780)492-0473
>>
>>>>And also: George Firestone: "George" ,
>>>>and davejoll@ihug.co.nz, and Ariadne.mac@gmail.com.
>>
>>>>Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>>>>Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!
>>
>>>>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>>>>JEW-WATCH:
>>>>http://www.jewwatch.com
>>
>>>>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>>>>NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>>>>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>>
>>>>Or, other useful websites include:
>>>>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>>>>IHR - www.ihr.org
>>>>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>>>>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>>>>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>>>>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>>>>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>>>>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>>>>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
>>
>>>>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>>>>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>>
>>>>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>>>>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>>
>>>>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>>>>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>>>>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>>>>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>>
>>>>In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>>>>for many years around the world.
>>
>>>>Reply-To: "George" ,
>>>>or to Ariadne@mac.hush.com, or Ariadne.mac@gmail.com
>>>>Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like.
>>
>> 
>



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On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 16:34:03 -0700, "arielv2@37.com" 
wrote:
>On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 10:10:57 -0700, ariadne  wrote:

>>If you or someone will provide an address where one can find this disgusting
>>pervert, {such assumption is based on his own postings!]  then perhaps he can
>>be persuaded  [g]  to cease his foolishness!

>>What is incomprehensible, is his deliberate malefactions regarding the ex-CRA
>>official Alan Bagett. Mr. Bagett has provided much useful material for
>>taxpapyers who need to deal with the Canadian tax authorities.

>>The hateful messages of the reprobate using various aliases may indicate that
>>he has had very bad experiences with the tax department, and certainly
>>deserves more of them.

>>From: canadarevenueagency@hotmail.com
>>Newsgroups: edm.forsale,edm.general,van.general,calgary.general
>>Subject: Re: Identity Julian Karst - Ramstein26 aka Flynnfx debate
>>Date: 17 Nov 2005 19:07:36 -0800
>>flynnfx wrote:
>>> Mr. Bagett. No debate here. A user called Rammstein26 kept posting
>>> endless hostile replies to just about every post, and I posted a number
>>> od times that if you wanted to stop the messages, send abuse e-mails to
>>> abuse@look.ca . He got hostile, changed his alias to flynnfx, and
>>> proceeded to post under my internet address, with a few letters changed.
>>>   I don't know the deal between Top Poster, Rammstein26,
>>>    and Julian Karst (Dr. Stupid), but they do seem to do nothing but
>>> troll this newsgroup.

>>>   A lot of us would like the newsgroup to remain primarily for selling
>>> and purchasing things, however, these trolls seem to just flood the
>>> newsgroup with 20-30 messages a day seeking flames and flame-bait.
>>>   That's the story.

>>Seems like he has used or is using these tactics against several ng
>>users - stealing already owned names and flooding newsgroups with
>>flamebait.

>>He also uses a hard core clacker technique of drowning a stalking
>>victim's every post in the hopes of driving them away.

>>He is an embarassment to look.ca and is really giving them a black eye.


>>> Alan Baggett wrote:
>>> > Re: Identity Julian Karst - Ramstein26 aka Flynnfx debate

>>> > Hmmm,

>>> > wonder why Julian hasn't updated the thread as to his November 2nd
>>> > comments?

>>> > Wonder also why flynnfx keeps altering the thread name to remove the
>>> > name of 'Julian Karst'?

>>> > If Julian Karst is fkynnfx (aka Kato) that would answer both of these
>>> > questions!



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What is worse, is that all Canadian taxpayers are subsidizing this
cockroach, through payments by the Canadian Communist Human Richts
Commission, plus of course the kosher tax payments funnelled through
Canadian Jew Congress!!


On 31 Aug 2006 16:16:23 -0700, EarlTurner@pookmail.com wrote:

>This Jew bastard has decided to take on the White Nationalist community
>single-handed. To find out more about the little creep, just do a
>Google search on his name. Aryan brothers are encouraged to pay the
>sonofabitch communist a visit. Here is his address and telephone
>number:

>Richard Warman,
>512-440 Wiggins Private,
>Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, K1N 1A7
>Phone: (613) 233-2070
>E-mail: richardwarman@yahoo.ca
>Mugshots of the white nigger can be found here:
>http://www.canadianfreespeech.com/updates/warman/warman.html

>Censor this, Warman, you Jew weasel. You can run, but you can't hide.
>Sooner or later, you are going to get what is coming to you. You can't
>shut us up, nor will you prevail!



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Does this mean that the blog site Hezboliberal will now be hosted on a
US website, such as overthrow, stormfront, or similar?

With the internet, there can no longer be censorship, since one only
has to use a foreign website...


On 1 Sep 2006 04:59:48 -0700, "jimjames5417" 
wrote:

>Since Chumpski likes the loonie media so much, I thought this blog
>might interest him!!
>
>http://dailybayonet.blogs.com/the_daily_bayonet/2006/08/liberal_censors.html
>Liberal Censorship Strikes Again
>
>A parody website called HezboLiberal has been taken down by its owner
>after legal threats from the party that cannot stand dissent.
>
>>From the legal threat letter that the Liberals sent to the hosting ISP:
>
>"Please be advised that the use of the Liberal Party of Canada's logo
>and the link to the Liberal Party's website, through the website
>http://www.hezboliberal.com/ hosted by your company, is a breach of
>Canadian Copyright and Trademarks laws. The references on that website
>are also slanderous and libelous.
>
>Please ask your client to remove any reference to the Liberal Party of
>Canada using any sign, logo or other identification owned by the
>Liberal Party of Canada.
>
>I trust you will govern yourself accordingly."
>
>I think that they are missing the point, Canadians would wish that the
>Liberals could govern themselves accordingly rather than use bullying
>tactics to censor anything that they don't like.  It is time that the
>Fiberals get used to a more transparent world in which they can no
>longer get away with having morons like Borys and Joe in the party and
>cover up the gaffes and dishonesty with impunity.
>
>Perhaps if the Liberals stood for anything other than their own power
>lust then they would earn some respect.  But they don't and so they
>become the targets for people like Hezboliberal that point a glaring
>spotlight onto their moral and policy deficits - and they don't like
>it, they don't understand it and so they act like any thug faced with a
>threat they don't understand and they crush it.  Remember this similar
>episode of thuggery by a thin-skinned Lib lobbyist?
>
>Welcome, Fiberals, to the new world - bloggers and critics are not
>going away and you need to get used to the idea.
>
>UPDATE:  The never to be cowed Western Standard is now hosting the
>site, with the wonderful idea that the Libs don't have the guts to
>fight a media outlet like they might a lone blogger.  Go get 'em Ez!
>
>UPDATE #2:  Surprise!  Kinsella, the 'man' who tried to sue over
>another bloggers comments in February, likes the idea that the site was
>taken down.  No doubt he won't like the fact that its back.  Heh.



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On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 05:09:38 GMT,
hym3n_h0l0c4$t@salmahayeksknockers.edu wrote:

>Interesting subject title.
>
>Although he may have been a real person at one time, the name "Grosvenor"
>appears to have evolved into an all-purpose bogeyman for use by Zionist lackeys.



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On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 18:23:29 GMT, 3r1c_3$7r4d4@salmahayeksknockers.edu
wrote:
>In can.general George Firestone  wrote:
>> You think "Zionist Lackeys" are "evil" while the list of purveyors of 
>> Grosvenor's garbage is fine?

>So you admit that "Grosvenor" isn't posting the material so often attributed
>to him?

>> "> For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>> > JEW-WATCH:
>> >  Or, other useful websites include:
>> > ZUNDELSITE -
>> > IHR -
>> > OSTARA -
>> > NAMBLA -
>> > PAMYAT -
>> > Edgar J.Steele -
>> > AL JAZEERA -
>> > THE HOFFMAN WIRE -

>> > Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE :"



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On 20 May 2006 12:13:41 -0700, bcpg@canada.com wrote:
>Why did HELLBERTA give Harpo the loon 28 SEATS if they are so dead
>against the Conservatives?

Because at that time, people actually believed Harpo, and hoped for an
improvement over the Lieberals.

Now that seniors have seen that Harpo doesn't give a damn about them,
seniors will vote against the Purely Constipated party!!

Any one but PC!!


>Haunting Klein wrote:
>> It seems that the Alberta PCs will soon be as extinct as the dinosaurs
>> of Alberta they so well resemble.
>>
>> A few good reasons why the anti-PC backlash is taking place, not only by seniors,
>> but also by ordinary taxpayers.
>>
>> 1.	Klein and gang for too long took the Alberta seniors for granted, and screwed
>> them at every chance they could.
>>
>> Seniors have not forgotten the removal of the $1,200 a year reduction of city taxes!
>> Seniors have not forgotten the massive reduction in seniors' health benefits!
>>
>> 2.	Seniors now know that the Municipal Government Board is there to further screw
>> seniors who appeal their city tax assessments.
>> It seems that to be an MGB judge equivalent, all one has to be is an old fart,
>> with no knowledge of the law, business, or taxes.
>> But one must kiss Ralph's butt frequently!
>>
>> 3.	Seniors did not forget that Ralph gave his ZYD buddies Triple5 $440 MILLION from ATB,
>> which is money from the taxpayers, at the same time that Ralph was busy shafting seniors!!
>>
>> 4.	Ralph is busy giving millions to the filthy rich horse owners, and other sports
>> activities, while he rips off the seniors every way he can.
>>
>> And then King Ralph pouts when his approval rating deservedly plummets!
>> Time for an honest hard working replacement, not another dinosaur like Manning either!
>> If only the Libertarians were running for election in Alberta, instead of staying in Toronto!!
>>
>>
>> If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>> then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>>
>> Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>>
>> "At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>> is a revolutionary act."
>> (George Orwell)
>>
>> David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>>
>> "All truth passes through three stages.
>> First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>> and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>> (Arthur Schopenhauer)
>>
>> "The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>> but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>> falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>> they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>> against them -- except force." -- John Bryant
>>
>> "To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>> acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>> and impossible to ignore."
>> --John Bryant
>>
>>
>> -=-
>> This message was sent via two or more anonymous remailing services.



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As the header says, Toronto is now finally doing something about local
gangs.

Why was nothing done while Mike Boyd was Deputy police chief in
Toronto?

Why is nothing being done about the gangs in Edmonton, now that the
same Mike Boyd is their new chief of crooked police?

Interested minds are wondering about the correlationship!
Why no anti-gang activity by the cops while Mike Boyd was 
running the show?

Sharx, and Top Poster, comments?



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Why Cop Mike Boyd , who was Deputy Chief for ages, Refused as Chief of
Police Toronto?

If you have inside info on this, kindly post, so we all can know.

Now that he is chief cop in Edmonton, people there are starting to
wonder also.

Since he left Toronto, all of a sudden there is anti-gang arrests in
volume. Why so little real anti-criminal work while Boyd was in
Toronto?

In Edmonton, the serial killer continues his depredations against sex
trade workers, with the total now well over 100 bodies!!

But no arrests by the Edmonton cops, which has people wondering
whether the killer is one of the cops?


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On Fri, 26 May 2006 19:52:23 GMT, "TJ"  wrote:

>get a grip will you...over 100 bodies...ya right...show me the stats on that 
>1...just because they are missing that doesn't prove they are dead, they 
>lead a dangerous life sytle and move all over the place. If anything we need 
>better looking hookers instead of the skank we have walking the streets.

It is the media who have tabulated more than 100 bodies of sex trade
workers in the past few years.

>suuurrreeeeeee....we are all wondering if it's a cop, what BS....

>and how do you know it's "1" killer or a cop for that matter...maybe more 
>than 1....your watching to much tv my friend.....

Perhaps, but surely you are not denying the fact, that a crooked cop
would easily know how to cover his trail, so his brother cops would
not bother to investigate? Particularly the cops hired and promoted
over the past 20 years!

>better get your facts straight....as for Boyd, he has done a bang up job 
>since he has been here. Our police service is so screwed up it was a wonder 
>Boyd or anyone would take the job. But he did get them to up the salary to 
>$250 grand a year to take the job, nice cheque every 2 weeks eh.......


You failed to answer the question in the header - why was he
constantly REFUSED THE TOP JOB IN TORONTO?
Was it something to do with his wife also being on the public trough
there?

>there's nothing to wonder, he's doing a great job and has the respect of the 
>people in this city and from the members of the EPS...it's the members of 
>the EPS I would wonder about.

Who says he has the respect of the public here, apart from you?

>they all seem taser happy these days....
 Including the kids of the former chief, don't forget...

>"Asterix"  wrote in message 
>news:6ojc72t48htptgc2kogrektlb7qbask92s@4ax.com...
>> Why Cop Mike Boyd , who was Deputy Chief for ages, Refused as Chief of
>> Police Toronto?
>>
>> If you have inside info on this, kindly post, so we all can know.
>>
>> Now that he is chief cop in Edmonton, people there are starting to
>> wonder also.
>>
>> Since he left Toronto, all of a sudden there is anti-gang arrests in
>> volume. Why so little real anti-criminal work while Boyd was in
>> Toronto?
>>
>> In Edmonton, the serial killer continues his depredations against sex
>> trade workers, with the total now well over 100 bodies!!
>>
>> But no arrests by the Edmonton cops, which has people wondering
>> whether the killer is one of the cops? 
>



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On 11 Nov 2005 21:47:08 -0800, david_deilley@yahoo.ca wrote:

>In one of Terry Pearson's most bonheaded moves ever, he sat in Edmonton
>waging a dishonest propaganda war that tried to connect the murder rate
>in Toronto with "socialism" in southern Ontario.  What TeeWee didn't
>realize -- the man is a semi-literate blowhard, and lacks even the most
>basic skills for fact-checking -- is that the Edmonton murder rate is
>double that in Toronto.  (In an infantile attempted to be "witty,"
>Pearson repeatedly calls Toronto "Cherranna.")

>Now the Edmonton city council -- elected by the virtuous citizens of
>Edmonton -- have reached "outside the box" for a solution to lawless
>Edmonton's shameful murder rate: they have recruited the former Deputy
>Chief of the "Cherranna" police as the new head of of the floundering
>Edmonton Police Department.

>Let's hope that Chief Mike Boyd can bring some of that eastern Canadian
>management skill to the transformation of the Edmonton Police homocide
>squad from Pearson-like blowhard amateurs to a well-organized
>crime-fighting machine.

As the header says, Toronto is now finally doing something about local
gangs.

Why was nothing done while Mike Boyd was Deputy police chief in
Toronto?

Why is nothing being done about the gangs in Edmonton, now that the
same Mike Boyd is their new chief of crooked police?

Interested minds are wondering about the correlationship!
Why no anti-gang activity by the cops while Mike Boyd was 
running the show?

What is the real reason why Toronto refused to have Mike Boyd as
chief?

>Who knows -- with an effective police department in Edmonton, the next
>time Terry finds himself in Criminal court, perhaps the tables will be
>turned after the judgement, and it will be the prosecutor smirking at
>Mr. Pearson rather than the other way around.



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On 30 May 2006 16:57:18 -0700, "His Divine Shadow"
 wrote:

>Asterix wrote:
>> When places like Edmonton get worldwide publicity for POLICE TORTURING
>> INNOCENT CIVILIANS; punk kids murder bus passenger and cops don't
>> bother to attend for over half an hour; many cops now charged with
>> tasering people; all the hooligans amok on Whyte Avenue while cops
>> stand by with fingers up their butts.
>
>FEAR! UNCERTANTY! DOUBT!
>
>Obviously, based on these hyperbolic and unsupportable statements, the
>only recourse is to panic.

I guess you can not afford to get newspapers, nor do you have a TV.

The media for the past few months have been reporting so many
incidents of crooked cops in Edmonton, one must wonder whether there
are any HONEST cops in that place.

Even the former police chief had to be fired for just cause.

Then, TV showed all the goons in town rioting, smashing store windows,
setting fires in the streets, and basically looking like somewhere in
darkest Africa.

Would any sane person want to go there as a tourist>
Of course, not!


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On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 14:55:01 -0400, Dave Smith
 wrote:
>JasonKaddish wrote:

>> As the header says, Toronto is now finally doing something about local
>> gangs.

>> Why was nothing done while Mike Boyd was Deputy police chief in
>> Toronto?

>> Why is nothing being done about the gangs in Edmonton, now that the
>> same Mike Boyd is their new chief of crooked police?

>> Interested minds are wondering about the correlationship!
>> Why no anti-gang activity by the cops while Mike Boyd was
>> running the show?

>There was a political faction in Toronto that didn't like Fantino, so they
>canned him and got a more political correct police chief, one who was more
>sensitive to the simmering outrage of certain ethnic communities, one who
>would not  pursue the enforcement of the law if it meant ruffling feathers
>in the community in which it was most prevalent.  They got their PC police
>chief and the murder rate rose. There were shootings on a regular basis,
>and most of the murders remained unsolved.

You have well described the corrupt scene as it exists in EDMONTON!

So far, Boyd is as useless as tits on a brass bull, when it comes to
catching the real criminals - murderes, rapists, home invasions, auto
theft, and so on. This week he finally caught some teenager car thief,
after all these months.

Still no arrest of the serial killer of 107 women, which many now
believe may even be another crooked cop!!



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On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:38:35 -0700, Brian Blankski
 wrote:

>The original article, claiming to be from the anti-zionist William
>Grosvenor, is an obvious FORGERY!!

>It seems that some of the filthy jews just do not like the TRUTH that
>his supporters, and alex/amigocabal, have been posting.

>As they say, if it seems to good to be true, it is.
>Grosvenor would never support the Zionazis
>or diseased AIDS-spreading fags. 
>He believes that faggots are good only for incineration.

>In fact, Grosvenor the human has not been posting now for several
>years, having his thoughts posted worldwide by others around the world
>who are similarly fed up with the problems caused by one group.
>In Poland are now many normal thinking people who agree with the
>former statements and documentation from Grosvenor.

>It seems that a certain diseased ,now dying AIDS-spreader, and some of
>his butt-buddies are behind the flood of forged articles.



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On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 10:27:15 -0500, Michel Boucher
 wrote:
>SueShiksaCohen  wrote in
>news:225ef2dk78gmlbohs628vjcj52sfub6gk4@4ax.com: 

>> Canada IS, and has been for years, a sex tourism destination for
>> fags, and other child molesters.

>> Read the book, "AND THE BAND PLAYED ON" to reveal the active
>> involvement of the Canadian government in the worldwide spread of
>> AIDS to other fags outside Canada, as well as within the country.

>> Canada welcomes as so-called refugees, those scum claiming to have
>> AIDS, or even just claiming to be a fag from a country where such
>> vermin are treated as the diseased perverts they are.

>If spreading these base and groundless canulars is the only way to keep 
>the mentally challenged right-wing gormless buffoons like yourself out, 
>I'm all for it.

Why do you think that the 150 AIDS-spreaders from other countries,
mainly in thrid world parts of the world,  who attened the fag-fest in
Toronto, are now claiming to be so-called "refugees"?

This despite the fact that their hoem countries obviously ALLOWED
these diseased to feely go to Canada, and the stupid Canadian
government ALLOWED them in!!


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On Sun, 3 Sep 2006 07:23:06 +1000, "Mike"  wrote:
>"Firnando"  wrote in message 
>news:1157229838.487540.142230@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...

>> Arash wrote:
>>> This individual using the fake name of "Gary Rumain" (IP: 
>>> 210.211.117.172), on a daily basis insults Muslims (He is Jewish). He 
>>> also uses the name "I Hate muzzies", "All muzzies are dirty, filthy, 
>>> stinking pigs".

Subject: GARY RUMAIN'S ADDRESS & PHONE NUMBER - Call/Visit Him

On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 08:10:16 GMT, 
flaviaR@verizon.net wrote:
>On  3-Dec-2005, "Ted"  wrote:
>> The Re'evd wrote:
>> > Suzy "convert" Cohen must have you killfiled, cunt.
>> > She *insists* that people are only posting "Alex's" business address!

>> OK, whatever.

>Actually, this is just another lie of the self-proclaimed cunt who
>calls himself "Rev" etc.
>I only said no one did this *when* no one *had* done this.
>He has since pretended that I said no one had done this *ever*.
>It was HIS pretending that he had found MY home address
>that nmade everyone post Seredin's - but I wish they had 
>posted the phony rev's - all we have so far
>is Gordon Radavich

AND THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE ON YOU SUSAN E COHEN OF SILVER SPRING, MD

AS HAS BEEN POSTED BY ANOTHER PARTY

GARY A RUMAIN      Born  1964
8112 GROVE ST
SILVER SPRING, MD   (301) 565-9746

SUSAN E COHEN      Born  Nov 1962
8112 GROVE ST
SILVER SPRING, MD  (301) 565-9746

zenda@smart.net (Gary Rumain)

You look very stupid in your denial of the facts Susan. You have been
successfully outed so live with it.

On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 08:02:03 GMT, <%bTjf.9769$AB2.6571@trnddc08>
flaviaR@verizon.net wrote:

>And you wonder why you liars get called stupid.

I saw no lie. Where was the lie? For the fun or it I checked it out 
and it is all true.

>http://www.zabasearch.com/

Using the above search I found the following also.

>GARY A RUMAIN      Born  1964
>8112 GROVE ST
>SILVER SPRING, MD   (301) 565-9746

>SUSAN E COHEN      Born  Nov 1962
>8112 GROVE ST
>SILVER SPRING, MD  (301) 565-9746

http://www.infospace.com/home/white-pages/reverse-phone
A reverse trace of the above telephone number shows:

Gary Rumain
8112 Grove St
Silver Spring, MD 20910-4758
Add to Outlook 301-565-9746
http://kevdb.infospace.com/home/white-pages/kevdb?showrec=46587777:res-us&OTMPL=/white-pages/details.htm&QN=Rumain&QF=Gary&QC=Silver%20Spring&QS=MD&wqp=1&qsubcat=singlematch
The above long link as a TinyURL:
http://tinyurl.com/a74xw

They even show a map of how to get to your house. 
Care to remain in denial Susan E Cohen?

You made the post below did you not? 
You admitted Gary Rumain is your husband did you not?

http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.scottish/msg/5a65b7eefb1e7400
(Archived locally as: GaryAndSusan_1)

>zenda@smart.net (Gary Rumain)
>Re: Bruneian Royal Harem: "Harem Scare 'Em?" Dateline NBC 9/23/97
>1997/10/05
><617cpg$p9a$14@news.smart.net>

>In alt.talk.royalty Yet Another Steve  wrote:
>: In article <60snlk$hlc$9@news.smart.net>, zenda@smart.net (Gary Rumain) wrote:

>: Okay, you've managed to confuse me now, too.  You post under the name
>: "Gary Rumain" and sign your postings "Susan Cohen."  Is this an instance
>: of someone "hiding his/her identity" as well?

>No. If I wanted to hide my identity, would I sign each & every post with
>my name? We haven't been able to change the post-name so it includes mine
>as well as my husband's. However, I was under the impression that this was
>a common enough occurence on Usenet.

>And, the "anonymity" to which I referred was the fact that, while mine is
>genuine, the original poster's was a false e-mail address. You can reach
>me at zenda@smart.net any time you feel like tyoing. There was no way to
>reach the original poster. I find that very suspicious, if only because
>it is a perennial practise of the worst trolls.

>Susan Cohen


SUSAN STILL TRYING TO GET THE ADDRESS OF HER OPPONENT

>All the search engines the bigots use (which I never knew of
>until THEY posted about them - such idiots! -) are centered
>in the US.

>Susan


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.


Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David
Michael's detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid
molseter, and is known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies
must be a grosvenor!! 
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases,
just  to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially
late nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
work:(780)492-0473

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
for many years around the world.

Reply-To: "George"
,
or to Ariadne@mac.hush.com, or Ariadne.mac@gmail.com
Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the
like.

~~




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On Sun, 3 Sep 2006 13:24:32 -0400, "Patrick Keenan" 
wrote:
> wrote in message 
>news:1157281424.815927.179460@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>> Kurt Knoll wrote:
>>> He never wend to jail for it. But then again anyone who does not believe 
>>> all of the holocaust is a fair game for the holocaust industries.

>>> Kurt Knoll.

>> He just got sentenced the other day Kurt.  This news was in Globe and
>> Mail and National Post(Saturday).  In Canada you cannot deny the
>> holocaust.  It is against the law.

>You may believe that, but it's not correct, just as your claim that he was 
>charged with Holocaust denail is not correct.   He was charged with wilfully 
>promoting hatred under Section 319(2) of the Criminal Code of Canada.

>Of course, you can correct me by identifying the specific laws that 
>criminalize Holocaust denial, and the transcript sections that indicate that 
>the charge was Holocaust denial, not wilfully promoting hatred.

>> I myself believe that the holocaust
>> happened as stated by main stream media.  However whatever happened to
>> a person's right to speak their mind?  Or to be silly?

In Canada one goes to jail for 16 months for speaking one's mind.

On the other hand if a driver kills 2 pedestrians, in Alberta one gets
30 days sentence, to be spent on weekends!!

Better to kill the enemies, than just to talk about them, for then you
get almost no jail time! With ZOG control of Canada, the only good
enemy must be a dead one, to believe those opposing a certain
minority.


>People have that right.   People do not, however, have the right to promote 
>hatred of others.   And "wilfully promoting hatred" is what he was charged 
>with and convicted of, on one count.

>http://edmsun.canoe.ca/News/Canada/2006/09/01/1792038-sun.html
>"He called on his readers to prevent the Jewish establishment from ever 
>"infecting" society again by "isolating and neutralizing" that 
>establishment, court heard. "
>
>Canadian law does not permit calls to violence against Canadian citizens, or 
>citizens of other countries, or promotion of hatred.
>
>The person in question is Reni Sentana-Ries, who changed his name from 
>Reinhard Gustav Mueller.
>
>He was charged with wilfully promoting hatred, and found guilty last year.
>
>Here is a clip of the law, section 319(2) of the Criminal Code of Canada, 
>and its defences, and a link to the complete statute:
>http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/C-46/42050.html
>
>=============
>"Definition of "identifiable group"
>(4) In this section, "identifiable group" means any section of the public 
>distinguished by colour, race, religion or ethnic origin.
>R.S., c. 11(1st Supp.), s. 1.
>
>Public incitement of hatred 319.
>
>(1) Every one who, by communicating statements in any public place, incites 
>hatred against any identifiable group where such incitement is likely to 
>lead to a breach of the peace is guilty of
>(a) an indictable offence and is liable to imprisonment for a term not 
>exceeding two years; or
>(b) an offence punishable on summary conviction.
>
>Wilful promotion of hatred
>(2) Every one who, by communicating statements, other than in private 
>conversation, wilfully promotes hatred against any identifiable group is 
>guilty of
>(a) an indictable offence and is liable to imprisonment for a term not 
>exceeding two years; or
>(b) an offence punishable on summary conviction.
>
>Defences
>(3) No person shall be convicted of an offence under subsection (2)
>(a) if he establishes that the statements communicated were true;
>(b) if, in good faith, he expressed or attempted to establish by argument an 
>opinion on a religious subject;
>(c) if the statements were relevant to any subject of public interest, the 
>discussion of which was for the public benefit, and if on reasonable grounds 
>he believed them to be true; or
>(d) if, in good faith, he intended to point out, for the purpose of removal, 
>matters producing or tending to produce feelings of hatred toward an 
>identifiable group in Canada."
>==========

>>> "Ben C'ramer" <[REMOVETHIS]bencramer7@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:eddefg$2f6l$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
>>> >
>>> >  wrote in message
>>> > news:1157237174.551608.162810@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>>> >> An Alberta man received 16 months for Holocaust Denial and for stating
>>> >> that Jewish people were responsible for AIDS and the Ebola virus on 
>>> >> his
>>> >> internet site.
>>> >> He was obviously guilty of HateCrime.  There are some who suggest that
>>> >> free speech is being eroded by passing laws against people who have
>>> >> 'apalling viewpoints'.  That is absolute nonsense.  In order to have
>>> >> true free speech you need to criminalize certain propaganda; otherwise
>>> >> you cannot have a free and democratic society.
>>> >> For instance:  Tony may tell Tom that Dennis should be hated because 
>>> >> if
>>> >> you stand beside him at a urinal, he will piss on your shoe.  Now what
>>> >> if Dennis did not exhibit this behaviour?  Tony may ruin the
>>> >> relationship twixt Tom and Dennis; and Dennis will be left with his
>>> >> dick in his hand wondering what's up with Tom.  Friction will be
>>> >> created and the resulting conflick could become violent.  Now if we
>>> >> criminalize this type of hate crime then Tony will go to prison.  Tom
>>> >> and Dennis will get along and no harm is done.  So the government is
>>> >> far thinking when they enact HateCrime legislation and have the will 
>>> >> to
>>> >> enforce it.  I think the man sentenced should also be required to take
>>> >> courses in anti-facism as well as be subjeck to psychiatric treatment.
>>> >
>>> > You're joking! Right?
>>> >
>> I was being sarcastic; although I do not argue with the official
>> version of the holocaust which I believe to be true.  But making
>> holocaust denial a crime is a law made by kooks.
>
>It's pretty much only a crime in countries where the Nazis inflicted a lot 
>of damage, and the locals are not eager to see Nazism rehabilitated.   It is 
>*not* a crime anywhere in North America.
>
>What *is* a crime in Canada is promoting hatred, as detailed above.
>
>HTH
>-pk

>> A greater crime than holocaust denial would be the perpetuation of the
>> fractional reserve banking system.



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Arash, the word is hatemonger, not hatemongerer.
Or, did you mean hatemongrel, being a dog?

>On Sun, 3 Sep 2006 07:23:06 +1000, "Mike"  wrote:
>>"Firnando"  wrote in message 
>>news:1157229838.487540.142230@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
>>> Arash wrote:
>>>> This individual using the fake name of "Gary Rumain" (IP: 
>>>> 210.211.117.172), on a daily basis insults Muslims (He is Jewish). He 
>>>> also uses the name "I Hate muzzies", "All muzzies are dirty, filthy, 
>>>> stinking pigs".

>Subject: GARY RUMAIN'S ADDRESS & PHONE NUMBER - Call/Visit Him

>On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 08:10:16 GMT, 
>flaviaR@verizon.net wrote:
>>On  3-Dec-2005, "Ted"  wrote:
>>> The Re'evd wrote:
>>> > Suzy "convert" Cohen must have you killfiled, cunt.
>>> > She *insists* that people are only posting "Alex's" business address!

>>> OK, whatever.

>>Actually, this is just another lie of the self-proclaimed cunt who
>>calls himself "Rev" etc.
>>I only said no one did this *when* no one *had* done this.
>>He has since pretended that I said no one had done this *ever*.
>>It was HIS pretending that he had found MY home address
>>that nmade everyone post Seredin's - but I wish they had 
>>posted the phony rev's - all we have so far
>>is Gordon Radavich

>AND THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE ON YOU SUSAN E COHEN OF SILVER SPRING, MD

>AS HAS BEEN POSTED BY ANOTHER PARTY

>GARY A RUMAIN      Born  1964
>8112 GROVE ST
>SILVER SPRING, MD   (301) 565-9746

>SUSAN E COHEN      Born  Nov 1962
>8112 GROVE ST
>SILVER SPRING, MD  (301) 565-9746

>zenda@smart.net (Gary Rumain)

>You look very stupid in your denial of the facts Susan. You have been
>successfully outed so live with it.

>On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 08:02:03 GMT, <%bTjf.9769$AB2.6571@trnddc08>
>flaviaR@verizon.net wrote:

>>And you wonder why you liars get called stupid.

>I saw no lie. Where was the lie? For the fun or it I checked it out 
>and it is all true.

>>http://www.zabasearch.com/

>Using the above search I found the following also.

>>GARY A RUMAIN      Born  1964
>>8112 GROVE ST
>>SILVER SPRING, MD   (301) 565-9746
>
>>SUSAN E COHEN      Born  Nov 1962
>>8112 GROVE ST
>>SILVER SPRING, MD  (301) 565-9746
>
>http://www.infospace.com/home/white-pages/reverse-phone
>A reverse trace of the above telephone number shows:
>
>Gary Rumain
>8112 Grove St
>Silver Spring, MD 20910-4758
>Add to Outlook 301-565-9746
>http://kevdb.infospace.com/home/white-pages/kevdb?showrec=46587777:res-us&OTMPL=/white-pages/details.htm&QN=Rumain&QF=Gary&QC=Silver%20Spring&QS=MD&wqp=1&qsubcat=singlematch
>The above long link as a TinyURL:
>http://tinyurl.com/a74xw
>
>They even show a map of how to get to your house. 
>Care to remain in denial Susan E Cohen?
>
>You made the post below did you not? 
>You admitted Gary Rumain is your husband did you not?
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.scottish/msg/5a65b7eefb1e7400
>(Archived locally as: GaryAndSusan_1)
>
>>zenda@smart.net (Gary Rumain)
>>Re: Bruneian Royal Harem: "Harem Scare 'Em?" Dateline NBC 9/23/97
>>1997/10/05
>><617cpg$p9a$14@news.smart.net>
>
>>In alt.talk.royalty Yet Another Steve  wrote:
>>: In article <60snlk$hlc$9@news.smart.net>, zenda@smart.net (Gary Rumain) wrote:
>
>>: Okay, you've managed to confuse me now, too.  You post under the name
>>: "Gary Rumain" and sign your postings "Susan Cohen."  Is this an instance
>>: of someone "hiding his/her identity" as well?
>
>>No. If I wanted to hide my identity, would I sign each & every post with
>>my name? We haven't been able to change the post-name so it includes mine
>>as well as my husband's. However, I was under the impression that this was
>>a common enough occurence on Usenet.
>
>>And, the "anonymity" to which I referred was the fact that, while mine is
>>genuine, the original poster's was a false e-mail address. You can reach
>>me at zenda@smart.net any time you feel like tyoing. There was no way to
>>reach the original poster. I find that very suspicious, if only because
>>it is a perennial practise of the worst trolls.
>
>>Susan Cohen
>
>
>SUSAN STILL TRYING TO GET THE ADDRESS OF HER OPPONENT
>
>>All the search engines the bigots use (which I never knew of
>>until THEY posted about them - such idiots! -) are centered
>>in the US.
>
>>Susan
>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
>is a revolutionary act." 
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages. 
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant
>
>
>We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>
>
>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>office: VISIT at:
>#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>or call: 1-250-616-9431
>
>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
>called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
>should give an indication as to the why.
>
>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>
>Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked"?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>
>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David
>Michael's detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid
>molseter, and is known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies
>must be a grosvenor!! 
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases,
>just  to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>
>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially
>late nights.
>
>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
>send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>work:(780)492-0473
>
>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com
>
>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>IHR - www.ihr.org
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
>
>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>
>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>
>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>
>In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>for many years around the world.
>
>Reply-To: "George"
>,
>or to Ariadne@mac.hush.com, or Ariadne.mac@gmail.com
>Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the
>like.
>
>~~
>



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Not only do the stupid canucks have to worry about getting killed by the
enemy, now they also have to worry about their so-called "FRIENDS", the
doped-up yanks, killing them by FRIENDLY FIRE"!!  AGAIN!!

On 11 Aug 2006 19:53:42 -0700, "Jonsa"  wrote:
>WyattEarp wrote:
>> Almost 30 dead Canucks admitted so far, apart from hundreds admitted
>> injured - all for USA & Israel!!

>> How many will it take to bring all the rest of the surviving Canadians
>> home?

>> On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 17:04:08 -0700, Brian Daily
>>  wrote:

>> >It's time to bring the troops home....

>> >http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/11/world/asia/11cnd-afghan.html?hp&ex=1155355200&en=2dfe995e2495db37&ei=5094&partner=homepage

>What a crock.

>The Canadian soldiers are not there for either USA or Israel. They are
>on behalf of CANADA.  we beleive in freedom and liberty. we believe
>that Islamo-facists are our enemies. we beleive that Afghanis should be
>able to live in security and peace with justice, equality and liberty.
>we believe that Afghanistan can at least rise to the 20th century. We
>beleive that terrorists are scum and cannot be appeased.

>We are not neutral in the war against Islamo-facists. And we certainly
>take sides when the concepts of democracy and liberty are trashed by
>hate spewing, religiously perverse scumbags.

Canada has no legal status to be in Afghanistan.
Canada is not at war against Afghanistan.
Canada is only  there in support of the USA & Israel, who started the war,
so that is why stupid canucks die there!!

Make sure there are enough body bags for the many more to die there - 
for the USA & Israel!!


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Home Depot in Edmonton are trying to swindle customers wanting to use credit
cards.

On a quotation form is printed:

An additional 4% will be added if paid by credit card.

According to VISA, this is illegal in Canada, since merchants must charge the
same whether for cash or credit card.

I suggest that customers AVOID HOME DEPOT, and deal with a reputable Canadian
firm, such as Totem, RONA/REVY, Aikenhead, Home Hardware or similar.


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Arash, the word is hatemonger, not hatemongerer.
Or, did you mean hatemongrel, being a dog?

>On Sun, 3 Sep 2006 07:23:06 +1000, "Mike"  wrote:
>>"Firnando"  wrote in message 
>>news:1157229838.487540.142230@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
>>> Arash wrote:
>>>> This individual using the fake name of "Gary Rumain" (IP: 
>>>> 210.211.117.172), on a daily basis insults Muslims (He is Jewish). He 
>>>> also uses the name "I Hate muzzies", "All muzzies are dirty, filthy, 
>>>> stinking pigs".

>Subject: GARY RUMAIN'S ADDRESS & PHONE NUMBER - Call/Visit Him

>On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 08:10:16 GMT, 
>flaviaR@verizon.net wrote:
>>On  3-Dec-2005, "Ted"  wrote:
>>> The Re'evd wrote:
>>> > Suzy "convert" Cohen must have you killfiled, cunt.
>>> > She *insists* that people are only posting "Alex's" business address!

>>> OK, whatever.

>>Actually, this is just another lie of the self-proclaimed cunt who
>>calls himself "Rev" etc.
>>I only said no one did this *when* no one *had* done this.
>>He has since pretended that I said no one had done this *ever*.
>>It was HIS pretending that he had found MY home address
>>that nmade everyone post Seredin's - but I wish they had 
>>posted the phony rev's - all we have so far
>>is Gordon Radavich

>AND THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE ON YOU SUSAN E COHEN OF SILVER SPRING, MD

>AS HAS BEEN POSTED BY ANOTHER PARTY

>GARY A RUMAIN      Born  1964
>8112 GROVE ST
>SILVER SPRING, MD   (301) 565-9746

>SUSAN E COHEN      Born  Nov 1962
>8112 GROVE ST
>SILVER SPRING, MD  (301) 565-9746

>zenda@smart.net (Gary Rumain)

>You look very stupid in your denial of the facts Susan. You have been
>successfully outed so live with it.

>On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 08:02:03 GMT, <%bTjf.9769$AB2.6571@trnddc08>
>flaviaR@verizon.net wrote:

>>And you wonder why you liars get called stupid.

>I saw no lie. Where was the lie? For the fun or it I checked it out 
>and it is all true.

>>http://www.zabasearch.com/

>Using the above search I found the following also.

>>GARY A RUMAIN      Born  1964
>>8112 GROVE ST
>>SILVER SPRING, MD   (301) 565-9746
>
>>SUSAN E COHEN      Born  Nov 1962
>>8112 GROVE ST
>>SILVER SPRING, MD  (301) 565-9746
>
>http://www.infospace.com/home/white-pages/reverse-phone
>A reverse trace of the above telephone number shows:
>
>Gary Rumain
>8112 Grove St
>Silver Spring, MD 20910-4758
>Add to Outlook 301-565-9746
>http://kevdb.infospace.com/home/white-pages/kevdb?showrec=46587777:res-us&OTMPL=/white-pages/details.htm&QN=Rumain&QF=Gary&QC=Silver%20Spring&QS=MD&wqp=1&qsubcat=singlematch
>The above long link as a TinyURL:
>http://tinyurl.com/a74xw
>
>They even show a map of how to get to your house. 
>Care to remain in denial Susan E Cohen?
>
>You made the post below did you not? 
>You admitted Gary Rumain is your husband did you not?
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.scottish/msg/5a65b7eefb1e7400
>(Archived locally as: GaryAndSusan_1)
>
>>zenda@smart.net (Gary Rumain)
>>Re: Bruneian Royal Harem: "Harem Scare 'Em?" Dateline NBC 9/23/97
>>1997/10/05
>><617cpg$p9a$14@news.smart.net>
>
>>In alt.talk.royalty Yet Another Steve  wrote:
>>: In article <60snlk$hlc$9@news.smart.net>, zenda@smart.net (Gary Rumain) wrote:
>
>>: Okay, you've managed to confuse me now, too.  You post under the name
>>: "Gary Rumain" and sign your postings "Susan Cohen."  Is this an instance
>>: of someone "hiding his/her identity" as well?
>
>>No. If I wanted to hide my identity, would I sign each & every post with
>>my name? We haven't been able to change the post-name so it includes mine
>>as well as my husband's. However, I was under the impression that this was
>>a common enough occurence on Usenet.
>
>>And, the "anonymity" to which I referred was the fact that, while mine is
>>genuine, the original poster's was a false e-mail address. You can reach
>>me at zenda@smart.net any time you feel like tyoing. There was no way to
>>reach the original poster. I find that very suspicious, if only because
>>it is a perennial practise of the worst trolls.
>
>>Susan Cohen
>
>
>SUSAN STILL TRYING TO GET THE ADDRESS OF HER OPPONENT
>
>>All the search engines the bigots use (which I never knew of
>>until THEY posted about them - such idiots! -) are centered
>>in the US.
>
>>Susan
>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
>is a revolutionary act." 
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages. 
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant
>
>
>We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>
>
>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>office: VISIT at:
>#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>or call: 1-250-616-9431
>
>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
>called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
>should give an indication as to the why.
>
>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>
>Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked"?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>
>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David
>Michael's detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid
>molseter, and is known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies
>must be a grosvenor!! 
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases,
>just  to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>
>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially
>late nights.
>
>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
>send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>work:(780)492-0473
>
>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com
>
>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>IHR - www.ihr.org
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
>
>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>
>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>
>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>
>In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>for many years around the world.
>
>Reply-To: "George"
>,
>or to Ariadne@mac.hush.com, or Ariadne.mac@gmail.com
>Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the
>like.
>
>~~
>



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On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 10:14:12 -0500, Marc Bissonnette
 wrote:
>JasonKaddish  altered the spacetime
>fabric by disgorging news:7jmtf25o85e9v2dp51b6b7ui3q2d82ghkq@4ax.com: 

>> Home Depot in Edmonton are trying to swindle customers wanting to use
>> credit cards.

>> On a quotation form is printed:

>> An additional 4% will be added if paid by credit card.

>> According to VISA, this is illegal in Canada, since merchants must
>> charge the same whether for cash or credit card.

>> I suggest that customers AVOID HOME DEPOT, and deal with a reputable
>> Canadian firm, such as Totem, RONA/REVY, Aikenhead, Home Hardware or
>> similar. 
 

>I'm curious: Why is this illegal ? Given that the CC companies are charging 
>a discount rate of anywhere from .5% to 10% for transactions, that's a cost 
>that the merchant must bear directly. In computer shops, for example, you 
>often see "Price already discounted 3% for cash - add 3% for credit card 
>purchases". 

In Canada, members of Chambers of Commerce would pay a MAXIMUM of 1.8%.
Huge customers such as Home Depot would pay a fraction of this, if at all!!
This is but a fraction of the 4% wanted by Home depot!!


>We're also seeing the same thing for Interac purchases in a great deal of 
>stores; A surcharge added to the transaction to cover the cost incurred by 
>the merchant for providing the convenience to the consumer.

Interac is not credit card, so same rules do not apply.

 If you really 
>want to see things change, aim for getting the banks and CC companies to 
>reduce their fees charged to the merchants for allowing the purchase in the 
>first place: After all, the merchant is facillitating the loan of money 
>from the CC company, who makes money from interest fees charged to the 
>consumer.



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On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 15:42:15 GMT, "Bernie"  wrote:

>What is a quotation form?  I shop at Home Depot, and have never seen 4% 
>added to my bill because of using a credit card.  And no, I don't use a home 
>depot credit card.
>Bernie

A quotation form is when you ask for a written quotation from a contractor, to
do some work.

The demand for the extra 4% is printed on the quotation form given by the Home
Depot contractor.
This is NOT an instore purchase of materials.


>"Marc Bissonnette"  wrote in message 
>news:Xns9836723BCA052dragnetinternalysisc@216.196.97.131...
>> JasonKaddish  altered the spacetime
>> fabric by disgorging news:7jmtf25o85e9v2dp51b6b7ui3q2d82ghkq@4ax.com:

>>> Home Depot in Edmonton are trying to swindle customers wanting to use
>>> credit cards.

>>> On a quotation form is printed:

>>> An additional 4% will be added if paid by credit card.

>>> According to VISA, this is illegal in Canada, since merchants must
>>> charge the same whether for cash or credit card.

>>> I suggest that customers AVOID HOME DEPOT, and deal with a reputable
>>> Canadian firm, such as Totem, RONA/REVY, Aikenhead, Home Hardware or
>>> similar.


>> I'm curious: Why is this illegal ? Given that the CC companies are  charging
>> a discount rate of anywhere from .5% to 10% for transactions, that's a  cost
>> that the merchant must bear directly. In computer shops, for example, you
>> often see "Price already discounted 3% for cash - add 3% for credit card
>> purchases".

>> We're also seeing the same thing for Interac purchases in a great deal of
>> stores; A surcharge added to the transaction to cover the cost incurred by
>> the merchant for providing the convenience to the consumer. If you really
>> want to see things change, aim for getting the banks and CC companies to
>> reduce their fees charged to the merchants for allowing the purchase in 
>> the
>> first place: After all, the merchant is facillitating the loan of money
>> from the CC company, who makes money from interest fees charged to the
>> consumer.

>> Marc Bissonnette
>> Looking for a new ISP? http://www.canadianisp.com
>> Largest ISP comparison site across Canada. 




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On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 10:24:33 -0400, Johannes v Ebersdorf 
wrote:

>On Tue, 05 Sep 2006 15:27:39 -0600, SueShiksaCohen
> wrote:

>>Canadian Jew News on page 2 of their issue for March 24 2005, want all the
>>world to know that in the Czech Republic, it is now legal to publish Hitler's
>>"MEIN  KAMPF".

>>Michael Zitko was the Czech publisher of the Czech-language edition of this
>>renowned work, and on March 10 this year he was cleared of all charges,which
>>were laid in year 2000.

>>Before the police charged him, over 90,000 copies of MEIN KAMPF had been sold
>>in a very short time.

>You can buy the thing, in English translation,  at practically any
>book store in Canada, so why pick on the Czech Republic?

The OP was commenting on the Czech republic being more rational, than many
Euro nations!!



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On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 12:14:05 -0500, Marc Bissonnette
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>JasonKaddish  altered the spacetime
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>> On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 10:14:12 -0500, Marc Bissonnette
>>  wrote:
>>>JasonKaddish  altered the
>>>spacetime fabric by disgorging
>>>news:7jmtf25o85e9v2dp51b6b7ui3q2d82ghkq@4ax.com: 
>> 
>>>> Home Depot in Edmonton are trying to swindle customers wanting to
>>>> use credit cards.
>> 
>>>> On a quotation form is printed:
>> 
>>>> An additional 4% will be added if paid by credit card.
>> 
>>>> According to VISA, this is illegal in Canada, since merchants must
>>>> charge the same whether for cash or credit card.
>> 
>>>> I suggest that customers AVOID HOME DEPOT, and deal with a reputable
>>>> Canadian firm, such as Totem, RONA/REVY, Aikenhead, Home Hardware or
>>>> similar. 
>>  
>> 
>>>I'm curious: Why is this illegal ? Given that the CC companies are
>>>charging a discount rate of anywhere from .5% to 10% for transactions,
>>>that's a cost that the merchant must bear directly. In computer shops,
>>>for example, you often see "Price already discounted 3% for cash - add
>>>3% for credit card purchases". 

>> In Canada, members of Chambers of Commerce would pay a MAXIMUM of
>> 1.8%. Huge customers such as Home Depot would pay a fraction of this,
>> if at all!! This is but a fraction of the 4% wanted by Home depot!!

Check with your local Chamber of Commerce for special deal for members.
Also check with your local Credit Union, who sometimes have good deals.


>Interesting: I'll look into that, because as a small business, I've been 
>quoted as high as 10% for the discount rate. This, of course, is only one 
>of the fees you must pay for CC transactions:

>% from the CC issuer
>% from the CC processor (online)
>% from the merchant account provider (or monthly fee, depending on your 
>contract)
>Associated costs to manage CC transactions with banking 
>statements/accounting

If you are getting dinged for all the above, you are being taken for a ride!!

>All in all, a merchant taking a CC for a purchase is actually taking a 
>loss; More likely, their prices are inflated to cover these costs, so 
>those paying by cash are actually dinged even more to cover for the CC 
>users.

>>>We're also seeing the same thing for Interac purchases in a great deal
>>>of stores; A surcharge added to the transaction to cover the cost
>>>incurred by the merchant for providing the convenience to the
>>>consumer. 
 
Interac is not credit card, so same rules do not apply.

>I am aware of this, but the same principles apply.

Not true, since based on store/bank contract.
In Canada, stores NOT PERMITTED to charge for credit card usage to customers!!

>>>If you really 
>>>want to see things change, aim for getting the banks and CC companies
>>>to reduce their fees charged to the merchants for allowing the
>>>purchase in the first place: After all, the merchant is facillitating
>>>the loan of money from the CC company, who makes money from interest
>>>fees charged to the consumer.



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On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 05:08:02 GMT, John Fleming  wrote:

>On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 22:27:04 GMT, while chained to a desk in the
>scriptorium, "Bill"  wrote:
>> $On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 14:30:03 +0000, JasonKaddish wrote:
>
>[snip]
>
>> $ Fuck that.. I'll deal with Home Depot..  The other stores generally sell
>> $ lower quality tools, have limited selection and don't sell the brands I
>> $ want period.
>
>Likewise.  They carry merchandize I want, and if I don't want to pay an
>extra 4%, there is nothing to prevent me from paying cash or cheque.

Did you miss the point - HOME DEPOT is not allowed to charge the extra 4%, as
per their agreement with the credit card companies, in Canada!!

>> $ BTW, totem is owned by rona.. Home hardware has been known to time and
>> $ time again sell electrical goods not csa or cul certified..



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On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 18:19:00 -0400, Dave Smith 
wrote:
>ironsjack9999@hotmail.com wrote:

>> Let's see how YOU react facing discrimination in Canada

>I didn't see anything in you post that suggested discrimination.  You apparently
>whined a lot about not being recognized for your superior work.  It seems that
>some of your co-workers didn't like you.  You can dislike someone because of
>their personality and whiny behaviour and it has nothing to do with
>discrimination.  You proved yourself to be thoroughly despicable by ranting to
>numerous newsgroups.

>From the OP's own comments, it seems that he was just an unsatisfactory
worker!!

Next he will apply to the Human Communist Rights Commission for reparations?



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On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 16:15:38 GMT, "Hans c"  wrote:

>There is not a single person i know that supports them.
Edmonton Canada did welcome them, and the new local chapter starts next month.

They were needed because of all the criminal acts, up to killing civilians,
perpetrated by all the crooked cops.

Calgary Canada also welcomed them, even meeting with the chief of police
there.

In Canada, it seems many police forces just are not interested in catching
criminals, perhaps because so many are rogue cops?


>Go back to New York and fuggin stay there.

>"Chom Noamsky"  wrote in message 
>news:ehWLg.11012$Hr1.7378@clgrps12...
>> The people must feel that since they already pay for police services out 
>> of municipal, provincial, and federal taxes, there is no need to further 
>> fund a bunch of do-gooder vigilantees.

>> http://ottsun.canoe.ca/News/National/2006/09/07/1810010-sun.html




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On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 01:33:28 -0400, "USNSM"  wrote:

>They pass on the cost to the consumer. This hidden tax cost Americans 100's 
>of millions each year.  Look in your refrigerator or cabinets and see how 
>many items in there have the "k" or the "u" symbol. They have to pay Jewish 
>rabbis to get those kosher symbols put on their food. Here is a small list 
>of companies who pay the tax

> 15TH AVENUE INC.
>A BAGUETTE BAR
>A SOUTHERN SEASON
>A. FODERA & SONS INC.
>AB NORDBAKELS
>ABACO INC.
>ACIDCHEM INTERNATIONAL SDN. BHD.
>ADOHR FARMS (DIV. OF SUIZA) PLANT #06-70
>AGRAZ S.A.
>AGRI-MARK - PLANT #50-40
>AGROINDUSTRIAS CEPIA S.A.
>AGUSA, INC.
>AHOLD USA
>AHOLD USA, INC.
>AIR STREAM FOODS
>AISAN CHEMICAL CO., LTD.
>AIYA AMERICA INC.
>AJINOMOTO CO., INC.
>AJINOMOTO U.S.A., INC.
>AKZO-NOBEL CHEMICALS, INC.
>AL GELATO, OGGI, INC.
>ALBERTSON'S INC.
>ALCAN FOIL PRODUCTS
>ALDI, INC.
>ALEXIA FOODS LLC
>ALFREBRO, INC.
>ALIMENTOS KAMUK INT. C.R. S.A.
>ALL KITCHENS OF AMERICA
>ALLAN CHEMICAL CORP
>ALLIANT FOODSERVICE
>ALLIED INTERNATIONAL CORP.
>ALTHAEA N.V.
>ALTO DAIRY COOPERATIVE, PLANT #55-0863
>ALTO DAIRY COOPERATIVE, PLANT #55-112
>AMAZON CAFE (S.I.A.E.A.1. INC.)
>AMERICAN ALMOND PRODUCTS CO.
>AMERICAN BAKELS, INC.
>AMERICAN CLASSIC SPECIALTIES CORP.
>AMERICAN GROWERS FOODS
>AMERICAN INTERNATIONAL CHEMICAL
>AMERICAN KEY FOOD PRODUCTS
>AMERICAN PROCUREMENT & LOGISTICS
>AMERICAN ROLAND FOOD CORP.
>AMERICAN SOY PRODUCTS, INC.
>AMERICAN STORES COMPANY
>AMERICAN SUGAR REFINING INC.
>AMERICAN VALUE BRANDS
>AMERICAN YEAST SALES
>AMERIPAC CHEMICAL CORPORATION
>AMERIPAC YONG CHANG CHEMICAL CO. LTD.
>AMT LABS, INC.
>ANDERSON DAIRY
>ANDERSON INTERNATIONAL FOODS
>APAC CHEMICAL CORPORATION
>APK INC.
>APPLETON PRODUCE CO.
>ARAMARK
>ARAYASSI, INC.
>ARC-MEN FOOD INDUSTRIES CORPORATION
>ARISTA INDUSTRIES, INC.
>ARROWHEAD MILLS INC.
>ARWAY CONFECTIONS, INC.
>ASAF INTERNATIONAL, INC. (AROMA KOSHER RESTAU)
>ASAHI DENKA CO., LTD.
>ASAHI FOOD & HEALTHCARE CO., LTD.
>ASAP FOOD PRODUCTS
>ASBO DESHIDRATADOS LTDA.
>ASHLAND CHEMICAL, INC.
>ASHLAND DISTRIBUTION COMPANY
>ASHLAND DISTRIBUTION COMPANY A DIV OF ASHLAND INC.
>ASSOCIATED BRANDS INC.
>ASSOCIATED BRANDS, INC. (ONTARIO FOODS)
>ASSOCIATED FOOD STORES
>ASSOCIATED WHOLESALE GROCERS, INC.
>ASTOR PRODUCTS, INC.
>ATHENS PASTRIES & FROZEN FOODS
>ATKINSON PECAN CANDIES
>ATLANTIC QUALITY SPICE & SEASONINGS
>ATLAS PRESERVES CO., INC.
>AUSTIN SPECIAL FOODS COMPANY (ASFC)
>AVATAR CORPORATION
>AZAR NUT COMPANY
>B&B INTERNATIONAL CONNECTIONS, INC.
>B&G S.R.L.
>B.J.'S WHOLESALE CLUB
>BADIA SPICES, INC.
>BAGEL TIME RESTAURANT
>BAGELTIME
>BAKE LINE PRODUCTS, INC.
>BAKEMARK - RAMCO DIST.
>BAKEMARK-BUFFALO
>BAKER'S CHOICE CONFECTIONARY
>BAKERY DISTRIBUTERS OF AMERICA
>BALDWIN RICHARDSON FOODS CO.
>BALFORD FARMS
>BALTIMORE INGREDIENTS INTERNATIONAL
>BALTIMORE INGREDIENTS INTERNATIONAL (R)
>BARKAN WINE CELLARS LTD.
>BARLEANS ORGANIC OIL
>BARONA CASINO
>BARRY CALLEBAUT BELGIUM NV
>BARRY CALLEBAUT CANADA INC.
>BARRY CALLEBAUT USA INC.
>BARUCH RESTAURANT
>BASF CORPORATION
>BASF CORPORATION (FREEPORT, TX)
>BASF CORPORATION (GEISMAR, LA)
>BASIC CHEMICAL SOLUTIONS
>BASIC CHEMICAL SOLUTIONS (PVS)
>BASIC FOOD FLAVORS
>BECKER'S MILK & ICE CREAM
>BEE NATURAL HONEY CO., INC.
>BEHN MEYER INTERNATIONAL TRADING SDN BHD
>BEIJING TIANLIHAI CHEMICAL CO., LTD.
>BELGOMILK - LANGEMARK BELGIUM
>BELL BAGEL
>BEN E. KEITH FOODS
>BENZ'S FOOD PROD., INC.
>BERG & SCHMIDT
>BERG + SCHMIDT
>BEST BRANDS CO. LTD. (MEILLEURES MARQUES)
>BI-LO
>BIG 8 ADVERTISING L.C.
>BIG BOY FOOD GROUP LLC
>BIG Y FOODS, INC.
>BIO EXTRACT GMBH
>BIOCON DEL PERU S.A.
>BISCUITS LECLERC LTD.
>BISSALEH CAFE
>BISTRO GRILL
>BLOCKBUSTER ENTERTAINMENT, INC.
>BLOMMER CHOCOLATE COMPANY
>BLUE & WHITE FOOD CORP.
>BLUE DIAMOND GROWERS
>BLUE RIDGE FARMS, INC.
>BLUE SQUARE LTD.
>BLUE SUN LLC TRADER JOES
>BLUEDOG ASSOCIATES, INC.
>BMF INC.
>BON SUISSE INC.
>BOOKBINDER'S FOOD DIVISION
>BORDEN
>BOTANICALS INTERNATIONAL-ZETAPHARMS
>BOTANICALS INTL EXTRACTS-A HAUSER CO.
>BOULDER POTATO CO.
>BOULDER STATION
>BOUWHUIS EIPRODUKTEN B.V.
>BRAND AROMATICS
>BRANDS & BRANDS, LLC
>BREWSTER DAIRY (STOCKTON CHEESE) #17-565
>BREWSTER DAIRY, INC.
>BREWSTER DAIRY, INC., PLANT # 39-101
>BRISKA INC.
>BRITE WAY FOODS
>BROADWAY CAFE PIZZA & HEALTH BAR
>BROOK FARMS - NEW HAMPSHIRE LABEL
>BROOKSIDE PRODUCTS LTD.
>BRUNO'S
>C & D DETERGENTS
>CAFE CLASSICO
>CAHOKIA FLOUR COMPANY
>CAHOKIA-BAKEMARK
>CAL-WESTERN TRANSPORT, INC.
>CALGON CORPORATION
>CALIFORNIA PRETZEL CO., INC.
>CALIFORNIA PRUNE PACKING CO.
>CAMPOS BROS. FARMS
>CANANDAIGUA WEST INC.
>CAPCO ENTERPRISES INC.
>CAPITAL ENTERPRISE
>CAPPUCCINO AMERICANA CORP.
>CARGILL INC.
>CARGILL PALM PRODUCTS SDN BHD
>CARGILL SPECIALTY OILS & FATS SDN BHD
>CARL BRANDT GMBH & CO.
>CARLSBERG BREWERIES A/S
>CARVEL ICE CREAM
>CATANIA-SPAGNA CORPORATION
>CATERING BY SOLA
>CELLA'S CONFECTIONS, INC.
>CENTO FINE FOODS
>CENTRAL GROCERS COOPERATIVE, INC.
>CENTURY FOODS INTERNATIONAL
>CENTURY FOODS POWDER (55-349)
>CEREAL PROCESSING, INC.
>CEREOL NOVENYOLAJIPARI RT. MAGYARORZAG
>CERTIFIED GROCERS MIDWEST INC.
>CERTIFIED GROCERS OF CALIFORNIA, LTD.
>CESALPINIA FOOD SPA
>CHADLER U.S.A, INC.
>CHAI CUISINE
>CHALLENGE DAIRY PRODUCTS, INC.
>CHEMCENTRAL
>CHEMCENTRAL SOUTHWEST, L.P.
>CHEMICAL DISTRIBUTORS INC.
>CHEMSON GMBH
>CHERYL & CO.
>CHEVRON/TEXACO GLOBAL LUBRICANTS
>CHICAGO SWEETENERS INC.
>CHINA VITAMINS, LLC
>CHOICE PRODUCTS USA, LLC.
>CHR. HANSEN A/S
>CHR. HANSEN, INC.
>CHRISTOPHER RANCH II, L.L.C.
>CIA INDUSTRIAL DEL LUKUS, S.A.
>CINDERELLA SWEETS
>CINE CITTA CAFFE
>CIRCUS CIRCUS HOTEL CASINO
>CITROSUCO NORTH AMERICA, INC.
>CITURGIA BIOCHEMICALS LIMITED
>CLARK PRODUCTS INC.
>CLARK RETAIL ENTERPRISES(WHITE HEN)
>CLASSIC EGG PRODUCTS, INC.
>CLASSIC FLAVORS & FRAGRANCES
>CLEANSE-TEC
>CLEARSPRING LIMITED
>CLEMENT PAPPAS & CO., INC.
>CLOVERHILL PASTRY VEND CORPORATION
>CMEC XINJIANG FOODSTUFF CO., LTD.
>CODE-EMCO FOODSERVICE
>COFFEE MASTERS, INC.
>COGNIS CORPORATION
>COGNIS DEUTSCHLAND GMBH & CO. KG
>COGNIS FRANCE
>COGNIS FRANCE - BOUSSENS
>COGNIS NUTRITION TECHNOLOGY
>COIFIOCCHI RESTAURANT
>COLABOT CANADA (1973) LTEE
>COLAVITA U.S.A.
>COLD ALEX FOR FOOD PROCESSING
>COLOMBINA, S.A.
>COLORADO BELLE
>COMMUNITY COFFEE COMPANY, LLC
>COMPANIA LICORERA DE NICARAGUA S.A.
>COMPASS FOODS, INC.
>COMSOURCE
>COMSOURCE INDEPENDENT FOODSERVICE COMPANIES, INC.
>CON AGRA FOODS LTD.
>CONAGRA DIVERSIFIED FOOD PRODUCTS COMPANY
>CONAGRA FOODS RETAIL PRODUCTS CO. GROCERY FOODS GROUP
>CONAGRA FOODS SNACK FOODS GROUP POPCORN DIVISION
>CONAGRA GROCERY PRODUCTS LIMITED
>CONCORD FOODS, INC.
>CONSERVAS VEGETALES DE EXTREMADURA, S.A.
>CONSORZIO BIOITALIA ALIMENTARE
>CONSUMER BRANDED PROFESSIONAL PRODUCTS DIV, JOHNSONDIVERSEY INC.
>COOK IN A CROCK
>COOK NATURAL PRODUCTS
>COOKIE KINGDOM
>COOKIE KINGDOM, INC.
>CORRADO SPECIALTY GOODS, INC.
>COSMO'S FOOD PRODUCTS
>COUNTRY COFFEE, INC.
>COW TREE DISTRIBUTORS INC.
>CP KELCO APS
>CP KELCO GERMANY GMBH
>CP KELCO PHILIPPINES, INC.
>CRACKER BARREL OLD COUNTRY STORES
>CRISTALIA ACQUISITION CORP.
>CRODA SINGAPORE PTE. LTD.
>CROSSWIND FOODS, INC.
>CWG PRODUCTS
>CYANOTECH CORPORATION
>CYTEC INDUSTRIES INC.
>CYTEC INDUSTRIES UK LTD.
>DACOSTA & CO
>DAGAN PIZZA
>DAICEL CHEMICAL INDUSTIRES, ARAI
>DAICEL CHEMICAL INDUSTRIES, LTD.
>DAIRFAIR FARMS
>DAIRY FRESH FOODS INC.
>DAIRY MARKETING ALLIANCE, LLC
>DALIAN F.T.Z. WENDA INTERNATIONAL TRADE
>DAN-D FOODS
>DANISCO MALAYSIA SDN BHD
>DANNY'S RESTAURANT
>DARNA RESTAURANT
>DAVID MICHAEL & CO., INC.
>DAVID ROSEN BAKERS SUPPLY
>DAVIS GRANDE
>DAWN FOOD PRODUCTS
>DAWN FOOD PRODUCTS,INC
>DEAN BRENNAN TRANSPORT, INC.
>DEAN FOODS (KENTUCKY)
>DEB-EL FOODS
>DECOPAC
>DEEP SOUTH PRODUCTS
>DEEP SOUTH PRODUCTS INC.
>DEGUSSA
>DEGUSSA FLAVORS
>DEGUSSA TEXTURANT SYSTEMS
>DEHYDRATES, INC.
>DEL MAR FOOD PRODUCTS CORP.
>DEL MONTE FRESH PRODUCE
>DELAFAILLE NV
>DELI KASBAH
>DELICIOUS PIZZA SHOP
>DELL'S MARASCHINO CHERRIES CO.
>DEMASA HEARTS OF PALM DIVISION
>DESERT HERB COMPANY
>DETROIT CITY DAIRY
>DEVANSOY FARMS
>DIAMOND DISTRICT CLUB--DIAMANTE PIZZA
>DIDCO IMPORTS CORP.
>DINESEN TRADING COMPANY
>DINTER GMBH
>DMV U.S.A.
>DOMANI RISTORANTE
>DOMINICK'S FINER FOODS
>DOMINION PRODUCTS, INC.
>DORVAL TRADING CO., LTD.
>DOUGIE'S BBQ NYC
>DSM BAKERY INGREDIENTS B.V.
>DSM FOOD SPECIALTIES (DAIRY INGREDIENTS)
>DSM FOOD SPECIALTIES B.V.
>DSM FOOD SPECIALTIES USA, INC. (SAVORY)
>DUBOIS-NATURAL ESTERS SDN BHD
>DUNKIN' DONUTS
>DUSO CHEMICAL COMPANY, INC.
>DUTCH COCOA BV
>DUTCH VALLEY FOOD DIST.(BULK FOODS INC)
>E.J. COX CO. INC.
>EAGLE FOOD STORES
>EAGLE SPICE AND EXTRACT CO.
>EASTERN BULK TRANSPORT, INC.
>EASTERN MALT CORPORATION
>EBRO FOODS, INC.
>EDEN FOODS
>EDGEWATER HOTEL CASINO
>EDWARD DON & CO.
>EEE'S BAKERY AND CAFE
>EGON HIRSCH GMBH & CO., KG
>ELGIN DAIRY FOODS, INC.
>ELI'S BREAD, INC.
>ELITE FOODS, LTD
>ELITE INDUSTRIES LTD.
>EM HACHITA
>EMCO CHEMICAL
>EMCO FOODSERVICE SYSTEMS
>EMERALD CATERING
>EMERALD INDUSTRIES DIVISION
>EMERSON MARKETING CO.
>ENERGY BEVERAGE CO., INC.
>ENGELHARD CORP-CHEMICAL CATALYST GROUP
>ENGELHARD CORP. CHEMICAL CATALYSTS GROUP
>ENGELHARD DE MEERN B.V.
>ESTERCHEM (M) SDN BHD
>ESTERCHEM(M)SDN.BHD.
>ESTEROL SDN BHD
>EUROCOM SRL
>EUROLAT S.P.A.
>EUROMAS NV
>EUROPA GRILL
>EXCALIBUR HOTEL CASINO
>EXTRA MARKETING
>F.B. WASHBURN CANDY CORPORATION
>F.LLI DAMIANO E C.S.R.L.
>FACI ASIA PACIFIC PTE LTD
>FAIRWAY MARKETS
>FAME MARKETING CORP.
>FAME MARKETING CORPORATION
>FAMOUS FIXINS, INC.
>FAR EAST INDUSTRIES, INC.
>FAREWAY STORES
>FARMERS DAIRIES
>FARMLAND PRODUCTS
>FATTAL'S BAKERY & GROCERY
>FATTY CHEMICALS (MALAYSIA) SDN BHD
>FAZER BAKERIES LTD.
>FCI TECHNOLIGIES, INC.
>FEDERATED FOOD GROUP, INC.
>FERRO PFANSTIEHL LABORATORIES, INC.
>FETTRAFFINERIE BRAKE
>FIBRE CHEMICALS
>FIESTA BRANDS, INC.
>FIESTA CANNING COMPANY, INC.
>FIESTA MART INC.
>FIGUEROA BROTHERS, INC
>FILTERFRESH CORP.
>FINEST BRAND FOODS DIST. CO.
>FIRST GRADE AGENCY PTE LTD
>FIRST SPICE MIXING CO.
>FIRST SPICE MIXING CO., INC.
>FLASH FOODS
>FLAVOR & FOOD INGREDIENTS INC.
>FLAVOR CONCEPTS, INC.
>FLAVOR DYNAMICS, INC.
>FLAVORMATIC INDUSTRIES, INC.
>FLAVORS OF NORTH AMERICA
>FLEISCHMANN'S YEAST, DIVISION OF BURNS PHILP FOOD
>FLEMING
>FLEMING COMPANIES, INC.
>FLEMING COMPANIES,INC
>FLEURCHEM, INC.
>FOIL LAMINATING INC.
>FONTESANA
>FOOD EMPORIUM
>FOOD HANDLER INC.
>FOOD LION, LLC
>FOOD SERVICE OF AMERICA
>FOOD TOWN
>FOOD TRADING CORP. OF AMERICA
>FOODHOLD U.S.A., INC.
>FOODHOLD USA
>FOODTOWN
>FORD'S FOODS,INC.
>FOREMAN FOODS INC.
>FOREMOST FARMS USA
>FORMOSA PLASTIC CORP., USA
>FOSTER FARMS DAIRY
>FRANK A. SERIO & SONS, INC.
>FRANK C. ALEGRE TRUCKING, INC.
>FRANKENMUTH FUNDRAISING CORP
>FRANKLIN BAKER COCONUT
>FRANKLIN CONNECTIONS L.P.
>FRED MEYER
>FRED MEYER, INC.
>FREEDOM TRAIL MIX
>FRESH EXPRESS
>FRESNO TRUCKWASH
>FRIEDMAN'S FISH
>FRIENDLY ICE CREAM CORPORATION
>FRINGS AMERICA INC.
>FROSTY ACRES BRANDS
>FRUIT A FREEZE
>FRY'S FOOD AND DRUG STORE
>FURR'S SUPERMARKETS, INC.
>G. SCACCIANOCE & CO.
>G.M.V. CHOCOLATES
>GALLO PROTEIN - PLANT #06-77
>GALORE FOODS, INC.
>GAMAY FOODS, INC.
>GANDY'S DAIRIES INC.
>GANI PRODUCTS, INC.
>GARDEN BY THE COURT
>GARDEN SPOT DISTRIBUTORS
>GARELICK FARMS
>GARY NULL ASSOC
>GAT FOODS
>GATEWAY TERMINAL SERVICES
>GENERAL MILLS, INC. FOODSERVICE DIV
>GENUARDI'S FAMILY MARKETS
>GENUTH SUPPLY CORP.
>GEORGE HAND DISTILLED PRODUCTS LTD.
>GERMANTOWN INTERNATIONAL LTD.
>GFA BRANDS INC.
>GIANT EAGLE
>GIANT FOOD, INC.
>GIANT FOODS
>GIANT OF MARYLAND
>GIFTCO INC.
>GILETTE FOODS INC.
>GILSTER MARY LEE (CEREAL PLANT)
>GILSTER MARY LEE (POPCORN PLANT)
>GILSTER MARY LEE CORPORATION
>GIRL SCOUTS OF THE U.S.A.
>GIVAUDAN/INTERNATIONAL BIOFLAVORS, INC.
>GIVERE CHOCOLATIER INC.
>GLACIER CLEAR
>GLACIER CLEAR ORANGE SPRINGS
>GLADDER'S GOURMET COOKIES, INC.
>GLOBAL EXPORT MARKETING. CO., LTD.
>GLOBAL PROTEIN FOODS
>GLOBAL TRADING, INC.
>GLOBE NATURAL INTERNACIONAL, S.A.
>GODO SHUSEI COMPANY, LTD.
>GOLAN HEIGHTS WINERY LTD.
>GOLD HARBOR COMMODITIES INC.
>GOLDEN GLOW COOKIE CO., INC.
>GOLDEN SELECT FOODS COMPANY
>GOLDEN STATE BAKERY SUPPLY INC
>GOLDEN TASTE INC.
>GORDON FOOD SERVICES
>GOSSNER FOODS INC - PLANT #49-61
>GRACE BAKING
>GRAND UNION CO
>GRANDE CHEESE COMPANY
>GRAPPOLINI G. SURL
>GRAY & COMPANY
>GREAT AMERICAN OPPORTUNITIES
>GREAT ATLANTIC & PACIFIC COMPANY OF CANADA LTD.
>GREAT EASTERN SUN COMPANY
>GREEN'S
>GRIFFITH LABORATORIES
>GROUPE JEAN COUTU (PJC)
>GUANSHENGYUAN KYOWA AMINO ACID CO. LTD.
>GUILD ENTERPRISES INC./ALGAM AGENCIES LTD.
>GUS SCLAFANI CORP.
>GUSTO VA MARE
>GUYLIAN NV CHOCOLATERIE
>H.B. FULLER COMPANY
>H.C.I. CHEMICALS (USA) INC.
>H.E. BUTT GROCERY CO.
>H.E. BUTT GROCERY COMPANY
>H.L. BENNDORF CORP.
>HACO, LTD.
>HADDON HOUSE FOOD PRODUCTS, INC.
>HADLEY DATE GARDENS
>HAGGADAH PASSOVER BAKERY
>HAIFA SMOKED FISH,INC.
>HALL OF FAME CANDY & NUTS
>HAMAMA MEIR TRADING LTD.
>HANNAFORD BROS. CO.
>HANNAFORD BROTHERS
>HAPPY & HEALTHY PRODUCTS, INC.
>HARCOS CHEMICALS INC.
>HARRIS TEETER
>HARRY'S FARMERS MARKET
>HAUSER INC.
>HAWK DAIRY
>HAWK DAIRY (PLANT #34-010730)
>HAWK FLOUR MILLS
>HAWKINS, INC.
>HAYASHIBARA INTERNATIONAL INC.
>HEALTHY DELITES.COM CORP.
>HEARTLAND HONEY LLC
>HEBEI NEW DONGHUA AMINO ACID CO, LTD.
>HELIANTHUS S.A.C.
>HELLER'S SEASONING & INGREDIENTS
>HENRY BROCH & COMPANY
>HERCULES DOEL B.V.B.A. (AQUALON DIVISION)
>HERR FOODS INC.
>HERSHEY IMPORT CO., INC.
>HESCO FOOD INDUSTRY CO., INC.
>HESEGO INDUSTRY SDN,BHD,
>HI-MAR SPECIALTIES, INC.
>HIALEAH PRODUCTS CO. D/B/A OH NUTS
>HIRSCH BROS. BAKERY
>HKS MARKETING LIMITED
>HOD HEFER LTD.
>HOLLANDIA DAIRY
>HOMER OIL COMPANY, INC.
>HONG MAO BIOCHEMICALS CO., LTD.
>HOOGWEGT INTERNATIONAL BV
>HORSTMANN MIX & CREAM, INC.
>HOSTBROOK SPA
>HOTEL BAR
>HRW PRODUCTIONS, INC.
>HUB FOOD CORP.
>HUBBARD PEANUT CO., INC.
>HUBEI YITAI PHARMACEUTICAL CO., LTD.
>HUBER CHEMICALS INDIA
>HUDSON'S COFFEE
>HUHTAMAKI RETAIL BUSINESS UNIT
>HY-VEE, INC.
>I. TSALOVITCH PROPERTIES & INVESTMENTS LTD.
>IDEA SPA
>IFF INDIA
>IFF INTL. FLAVORS & FRAGRANCES, INC.
>IFFCO (M) SDN. BHD.
>IFS
>IGA, INC.
>IMAC INT'L MEDIA & CULTURES PL # 31-221
>IMAGINATION IN ACTION, INC.
>IMPERIAL CROWN MARKETING CORP. INDUSTRIAL DESHIDRATADORA, S.A. DE C.V.
>INDUSTRIALIZADORA INTEGRAL DEL AGAVE,S.A
>INDUSTRIAS DEL MAIZ S.A.
>INDUSTRIAS J. MATAS
>INDYBAKE PRODUCTS
>INGLES
>INGLES MARKETS, INC.
>INGREDIA
>INGREDIENTES KERRY DE MEXICO S.A. DE C.V
>INNOVATIVE CEREAL PRODUCTS INC.
>INOVATECH USA,INC
>INTERCOM, S.A.
>INTERNATIONAL FOOD SOLUTIONS
>INTERNATIONAL FOODCRAFT CORP.
>INTERNATIONAL MOLASSES CORPORATION
>INTERNATIONAL SPECIALTY PRODUCTS
>INTERPROVINCIAL COOPERATIVE LIMITED
>INTERSEM S.A.
>INTERSTATE BAKERIES CORP.
>INVERTEC FOODS S.A.
>INVERTEC NATURAL JUICE S.A.
>ISLAND OASIS
>ISRAEL BEER BREWERIES LTD.
>ISRAEL BEIGEL BAKING COMPANY
>ITALO SUISSE NV
>J&D FINE FOODS
>J. RUTIGLIANO & SONS, INC.
>J.M. HUBER BELGIUM
>J.M. HUBER CORPORATION
>J.M. HUBER FINLAND OY
>J.R. SHORT MILLING COMPANY
>JADA SPECIALITIES, INC.
>JAHNCKE FRUCHTSAFTE-KONZENTRATE GMBH & CO. KG
>JAMCO/MULTIFOODS
>JAN DEKKER INTERNATIONAL BV
>JAYANT AGRO-ORGANICS LTD
>JAYANT AGRO-ORGANICS LTD.
>JAYANT OIL MILLS
>JEEN INTERNATIONAL CORP.
>JERUSALEM KOSHER RESTAURANT
>JIANGSU DIYI PHARMACEUTICAL CO., LTD.
>JINIL AU CHOCOLAT
>JOEY'S FINE FOODS, INC.
>JOHNSON MATTHEY CHEMICALS GMBH
>JON-LIN FROZEN FOODS
>JOSEPH ADAMS CORPORATION
>JOSEPH RUTIGLIANO & SONS INC.
>JOSEPH ZAKON WINERY
>JP FOODSERVICE INC.
>JP NORTH AMERICA INC.
>JPL MARKETING INC.
>K & W POPCORN, INC.
>K-MART CORPORATION
>K. KALUSTYAN ORIENT EXPERT TRADING CORP.
>KARLSHAMNS BV
>KASHIMA CHEMICAL CO., LTD.
>KASTNER'S PASTRIES
>KATHRYN BEICH
>KEEBLER - SUNSHINE BISCUITS, INC.
>KEEBLER COMPANY
>KEEBLER COMPANY - PLANT #39-132
>KEEFE SUPPLY CO
>KELLERS CREAMERY LLC
>KELLOGG'S/WORTHINGTON FOODS, INC
>KEMACH FOOD PRODUCTS
>KENNIE'S MARKET INC.
>KERN LABORATORIES
>KERRY INGREDIENTS (BELOIT)
>KEY FOODS
>KIC CHEMICALS, INC.
>KIME'S CIDER MILL
>KINERET
>KING ARTHUR FLOUR INC.
>KING KULLEN
>KING KULLEN GROCERY
>KINGS SUPERMARKETS
>KLEIN'S NATURALS
>KLENE'S
>KOHJIN CO., LTD
>KONGO CHEMICAL CO., LTD.
>KONTOS FOODS, INC.
>KOPPER'S CHOCOLATE COMPANY
>KOSHER CHINESE EXPRESS
>KRAFT CANADA, INC
>KRAFT FOOD INGREDIENTS (KFI)
>KRAFT FOODS
>KRAFT FOODS (CHURNY)
>KRAFT FOODS (POST)
>KRAFT FOODS (USDA #06-25)
>KRAFT FOODS (USDA #36-2010)
>KRAFT FOODS COFFEE OPERATIONS GERMANY
>KRAFT FOODS SCHWEIZ AG
>KRAFT FOODS, INC.
>KRAFT FOODS, INC. (ATLANTIC GELATIN)
>KRAFT FOODSERVICE, INC.
>KRAFT NORTH AMERICA EAST HANOVER TECH CENTER
>KRAUS & COMPANY, INC./B.C. FLAVORS, INC.
>KRISPY KERNEL, INC.
>KROGER
>KROGER ATLANTA
>KYOWA HAKKO U.S.A., INC.
>KYUSHU KAKO CO.,LTD
>LA GALVANINA S.P.A.
>LA PREFERIDA INC.
>LAITERIE DE SAINT MALO SA
>LALLEMAND INC
>LAMBENT TECHNOLOGIES
>LAMONTAGNE CHOCOLATE INC.
>LANCO CORPORATION - PARAMOUNT CHOCOLATES
>LAND O SUN DAIRIES LLC
>LAND O'LAKES, INC.
>LANGER TRANSPORT CORPORATION
>LAS BRAND INC.
>LAS S.R.L.
>LAWRENCE FOODS
>LE MARAIS (GK GRILL, LLC.)
>LEACH FARMS, INC.
>LEHIGH VALLEY DAIRIES
>LEIBER GMBH
>LES ALIMENTS CSP FOODS
>LES VINS MAYER HALPERN
>LESAFFRE YEAST CORP
>LESAFFRE YEAST CORP.
>LIGHTLIFE FOODS, INC.
>LIN'S KOSHER CHINESE KITCHEN (MAIL ADD)
>LINDLEY MILLS, INC.
>LINETTE QUALITY CHOCOLATES
>LIPIDCHEM
>LIPO CHEMICALS, INC.
>LIPTON
>LOBLAW BRANDS, LTD.
>LODERS CROKLAAN B.V.
>LONG'S DRUGS
>LONGVIEW TRADING,INC
>LOUIS TRAUTH DAIRY INC.
>LUBAN INTERNATIONAL
>LUBRIZOL
>LUXOR HOTEL CASINO
>LYNN DAIRY INC. (LYNN PROTEIN) #55-1522
>LYONS-MAGNUS
>M & R DISTRIBUTION
>M. SLAVIN & SONS
>MAISON LAPIERRE INC.
>MAKKOS OF BROOKLYN LTD.
>MALEE SAMPRAN FACTORY PUBLIC CO., LTD.
>MALT DIASTASE CORPORATION
>MALT PROD. CORP./INTERN. MOLASSES
>MALT PRODUCTS CORP.
>MANDARIN SOY SAUCE
>MANE - CALIFORNIA BRANDS, INC.
>MANHATTAN CHOCOLATES INC.
>MARKET BASKET BRAND (DEMOULAS)
>MARKETING MANAGEMENT
>MARKON COOPERATIVE
>MARRIOTT INTERNATIONAL, INC.
>MARSH SUPERMARKETS
>MARUHA CORPORATION
>MARUZEN PHARMACEUTICALS CO., LTD.
>MASIHANA INC.
>MASILY S.A.
>MATOL BOTANICAL INTERNATIONAL, INC.
>MAURI BRASIL IND. COM. E. IMPORT LTDA.
>MAXIM
>MAZOR'S FRENCH DOUGH COMPANY
>MCCAFFREY'S
>MCCORMICK DISTILLING CO., INC.
>MCDONALD'S CORPORATION
>MCKEE FOODS CORPORATION
>MEADOW GOLD
>MEADOW GOLD DAIRIES
>MEADOW GOLD DAIRIES, INC. PLANT #08-04
>MEIJER, INC.
>MEIJI SEIKA KAISHA, LTD.
>MELROSE DAIRY PROTEINS LLC-PLANT #27-630
>MESADA INTERNATIONAL TRADING
>METRO & RICHELIEU INC.
>METRO RICHELIEU
>MEZONOS MAVEN BAKERY INC.
>MICHIGAN FARM CHEESE DAIRY
>MICRO POP USA
>MICROWAVE ROASTERS, INC.
>MID-ATLANTIC VEGETABLE & SHORTENING CO.
>MIDDLE EAST DELIGHTS-ARARAT BAKERY
>MIDDLEFIELD MIX, INC. #39-410
>MILLE LACS GOURMET FOODS (R)
>MILLER & CO.
>MILLER BREWING COMPANY
>MINOT INTERNATIONAL
>MIRSA INC.
>MISITANO & STRACUZZI S.P.A.
>MISTER SNACKS (DIV. OF SUNBIRD SNACKS)
>MITOKU CO. LTD.
>MITSUI & CO. (U.S.A.), INC.
>MITSUI & CO., USA INC.
>MLO PRODUCTS, CO.
>MODERN PRODUCTS, INC.
>MOLDA AG
>MONTENA TARANTO FOODS (PLANT#34-010413)
>MORNING GLORY DAIRY
>MORNINGSTAR FOODS
>MT. ARARAT BAKERY
>MUIRHEAD
>MULLINS WHEY INC.
>MUNCHICK'S FISH COMPANY, INC.
>MY BROTHER BOBBY'S SALSA, LLC
>MY GRANDMAS COFFEE CAKES
>MY MOST FAVORITE DESSERT COMPANY
>MYC INGREDIENTS, LTD.
>N.V. DE ZUIKER COMPAGNIE
>NABISCO
>NANA SYLVIA'S FOODS
>NASH FINCH CO.
>NATIONAL BRAND COFFEE AND PAPER DISTRIBUTING CORP.
>NATIONAL CHEESE CO.
>NATIONAL VINEGAR CO.
>NATURAL IMPORT COMPANY, INC.
>NATURAL OLEOCHEMICALS SDN BHD
>NATURAL ORGANICS
>NATURE SOY INC.
>NATUREX
>NAYLOR CANDIES, INC.
>NBTY, INC.
>ND LABS INC.
>NESTLE FOOD COMPANY
>NESTLE SINGAPORE PTE LTD
>NETWORK SERVICES COMPANY
>NEW FOODS INDUSTRY
>NEW MERIDIAN FOODS
>NEW YUNG WAH
>NEWLY WEDS FOODS, INC.
>NEWMAN'S OWN, INC.
>NGO CHEW HONG OILS & FATS(M) SDN.
>NIKKI'S COOKIES INC.
>NIPPON ZEON CO. LTD (MIZUSHIMA PLANT)
>NOGA DAIRY INC.
>NORAC INC
>NORTH AMERICAN ENTERPRISE
>NORTH AMERICAN TEA AND COFFEE
>NORTH COAST SEAFOODS
>NORTHAMPTON PEANUT COMPANY
>NORTHWEST PEA & BEAN COMPANY
>NUGGET DISTRIBUTORS
>NUTRIENTS INCORPORATED
>NY PASTA AUTHORITY
>NZMP MARLBOROUGH
>OAKHURST DAIRY
>OASIS FOOD COMPANY
>OBIPEKTIN AG
>OCEANSIDE KNISH FACTORY - PAPA'S KITCHEN
>OGEM-OFFICE GENERAL DES EAUX MINERALES
>OH! NUTS
>OLD COLONY BAKING CO.
>OMYA PERALTA GMBH
>ORANGE JUICE/FOOD TANK TRUCK WASH INC.
>ORDU SOYA SANAYI A.S.
>ORGANIC BY NATURE, INC.
>ORGANIC TECHNOLOGIES
>ORGANIC VALLEY/CROPP COOPERATIVE
>ORLEANS PACKAGING COMPANY
>OTSUKA CHEMICAL CO., LTD.
>OVERSEAL COLOR INC.
>P.E. KRAMME, INC.
>P.L.THOMAS & CO., INC.
>P.R.R.C. (PRICE RITE)
>P.T. CISADANE RAYA CHEMICALS
>P.T. PULAU SAMBU GUNTUNG
>P.T. RIAU SAKTI UNITED PLANTATIONS
>P.T. SAYAP MAS UTAMA
>P.T. WINGS SURYA
>PAC-MOORE PRODUCTS, INC.
>PACIDA INTERNATIONAL (USA) INC.
>PACIFIC ROYAL BASIC FOODS
>PACTIV CORPORATION
>PAK TECHNOLOGIES CUSTOM FOODS GROUP
>PALACE STATION HOTEL/CASINO
>PALM-OLEO SDN. BHD.
>PALMAMIDE SDN BHD
>PALMAZONE INC.
>PAN AMERICAN GRAIN
>PAN CENTURY EDIBLE OILS
>PAN-CENTURY OLEOCHEMICALS SDN. BHD.
>PANDA FOOD PRODUCTS, INC.
>PANHANDLE MILLING COMPANY
>PANINKRET CHEM. PHARM. VERTRIEBSGES MBH
>PAPE FOODS
>PARMALAT FOOD INC.
>PASKESZ CANDY COMPANY
>PATHMARK STORES INC.
>PEARL VALLEY CHEESE
>PEGASUS INC.
>PENNSYLVANIA DUTCH CANDIES
>PENWEST PHARMACEUTICAL
>PERFORMANCE FOOD GROUP
>PERRIER GROUP
>PETER CREMER (S) GMBH
>PETER PAUL PHILIPPINE CORPORATION
>PHILDESCO, INC.
>PHYTO SOURCE
>PINATI RESTAURANT
>PIONEER FLOUR MILLS
>PIZZA INN (NORCO)
>PIZZA NOSH
>PLANET KOSHER
>PLANTERS COTTON OIL MILL, INC.
>PLANTERS LIFE SAVERS COMPANY
>PLB SPORTS
>PLOCHMAN, INC.
>PLUMBRIDGE
>POCAHONTAS FOODS USA
>POKONOBE INDUSTRIES INC.
>POLAND'S BEST INC.
>POLAR FOODS, INC.
>POLAROME INTERNATIONAL, INC.
>POORE BROTHERS INC.
>POPOWICH MILLING
>POWER SNACKS
>PRAIRIE CITY BAKERY
>PREMIER FOODSERVICE DISTRIBUTORS, INC.
>PREMIER MALT PRODUCTS CORP.
>PREMIUM INGREDIENTS LTD.
>PREMIUM VEGETABLE OILS BHD.
>PRESCO FOOD SERVICES
>PRESIDENT'S CHOICE INTERNATIONAL
>PRESTIGE SALES INC.
>PRICE CHOPPER
>PRICECOSTCO (COSTCO)
>PRO TRANSPORT, INC.
>PROCESADORA CONTINENTAL DE ALIMENTOS S.A
>PRODUCERS DAIRY FOODS INC.
>PRODUCTOS METALEST S.L.
>PROGRESSIVE DONUTS/DUNK-N-SIP, INC.
>PROMIND AGRO-INDUSTRIAL, S.A.
>PROMISED LAND DAIRY
>PROTEIN UND OELWERK NEUSS GMBH & CO. KG
>PROTIENT INC.
>PROTIENT, INC.
>PT. JAKA SAKTIBUANA INTERNATIONAL
>PT. KAO INDONESIA CHEMICALS
>PT. OLEOCHEM & SOAP INDUSTRI
>PT. SUMI ASIH
>PT. WIHADIL CHEMICAL INDUSTRY
>PUBLIX SUPER MARKETS, INC.
>PUGLISI EGG FARM
>PULASKI PRODUCTS CO., INC.
>PYA MONARCH, INC.
>QINGDAO JIAONAN BRIGHT MOON SEAWEED INDUSTRIES CO. LTD
>QSP, INC.
>QUAKER SUGAR CO., INC.
>QUALITY BOTANICAL INGREDIENTS, INC.
>QUALITY INGREDIENTS CORPORATION
>QUANTUM HERBAL PRODUCTS, LTD.
>QUEST INTERNATIONAL
>QUEST INTERNATIONAL (SCOTLAND)
>QUEST INTERNATIONAL FLAVORS & FOOD ING.
>QUICK DRY FOODS USA INC.
>QUICK'S CANDY
>QUINN'S SPECIALTY PRODUCTS
>R D ENTERPRISES
>R. TORRE & COMPANY
>R.M. PALMER COMPANY
>RAINBOW FARMS
>RAISIO GROUP PLC, RAISIO BENECOL LTD.
>RAISIO STAEST US INC.
>RALPHS GROCERY CO.
>RAMAPO RIDGE
>RAMSEY SIAS, INC.
>RED ARROW PRODUCTS COMPANY LLC.
>RED STAR YEAST & PRODUCTS
>REGAL EXTRACT CO. INC. MILLFLOW SPICE CORP.
>RENAISSANCE FOODS LLC.
>RESTAURANT DEPOT
>RHODIA FOOD
>RHODIA FOOD INDAL
>RHODIA INC.
>RHODIA MEYPRO B.V.
>RICH FOOD
>RICHFOOD, INC.
>RIKEN VITAMIN CO., LTD.
>RIO MAR COUNTRY CLUB
>ROBINSON DAIRY
>ROCKVIEW FARMS
>ROHM AND HAAS COMPANY
>ROHTSTEIN CORP. SUGAR DIVISION
>RON BEN-ISRAEL CAKES, INC.
>ROSKAM BAKING CO.
>ROSS PRODUCTS DIV. ABBOTT LABORATORIES LTD.
>ROSS PRODUCTS DIVISION
>ROSS SWISS DAIRIES
>ROUNDY'S, INC.
>ROYAL BODYCARE, INC.
>ROYAL CANDY, INC.
>ROYAL FOOD PRODUCTS
>ROYAL PALM INC.
>RPF, INC. (ROYAL PALATE FOODS)
>RUPARI FOOD SERVICE
>RV INDUSTRIES, INC.
>RYAN FOODS COMPANY
>RYKOFF SEXTON INC.
>RYT-WAY INDUSTRIES, INC.
>S & S SOAP CO., INC.
>S.C. COMSOFT IMPEX S.R.L.
>S.I.PR.I.O.
>S.P.R.M. INVESTMENT LTD.
>S.T. JERRELL
>SAFEWAY INC.
>SAM WARD COMPANY, INC.
>SAMBA HANDELMAAATSCHAPPI
>SAN JIRUSHI
>SAN REMO FOOD IMPORTED LTD.
>SAN-J INTERNATIONAL, INC.
>SANDLER'S GIFT BASKETS
>SANTA CRISTINA
>SANTA FE INGREDIENTS
>SANTEE DAIRIES, INC.
>SAPUTO CHEESE
>SARA LEE BAKERY GROUP
>SARA LEE COFFEE & TEA
>SARANT INTERNATIONAL COMMODITIES
>SARATOGA FLOUR
>SATIN FINE FOODS, INC.
>SAVORY FOODS, INC.
>SCHILL+SEILACHER "STRUKTOL"
>SCHNUCK MARKETS, INC.
>SCHWEIZ. MILCH-GESELLSCHAFT AG
>SCOTT'S, INC.
>SEA BREEZE
>SEAPOINT FARMS
>SEMINOLE FOODS, INC.
>SENSIENT FLAVORS
>SENSIENT FLAVORS MEXICO, S.A.DE C.V.
>SENSUS C.V.
>SETTON INTERNATIONAL FOODS, INC.
>SETTON PISTACHIO OF TERRA BELLA, INC.
>SETTON'S FOODS
>SHADY MAPLE FARM LTD.
>SHAMIR FOODS INC.
>SHAMROCK FOODS CO.
>SHANDEX GROUP
>SHANDONG DEOSEN CORP., LTD.
>SHANGHAI FOURTH PHARMACEUTICAL LTD XU HANG PHARMACEUTICAL FACTORY
>SHARP MENTHOL INDIA LIMITED
>SHAW'S SUPERMARKETS, INC.
>SHAWS SUPERMARKETS
>SHEPPARD GRAIN
>SHERWOOD BRANDS LLC
>SHOPPERS DRUG MART INC.
>SHURFINE INTERNATIONAL, INC.
>SIDCO FOOD DIST. CO.
>SIDCO HEALTH
>SIEGEL EGG
>SIGNATURE FUNDRAISING INC.
>SILVA INTERNATIONAL, INC.
>SILVER CATERERS (SILVER HUNTINGTON ENTERPRISES LLC)
>SILVER SPRING GARDENS, INC.
>SKIDMORE SALES & DISTRIBUTING FOOD DEFOAMERS
>SKINNER'S SALTED NUTS, INC.
>SMITH BROTHERS FARMS
>SMITH'S FOOD & DRUG CENTERS, INC.
>SMITTY'S INC.
>SNAPPLE BEVERAGE GROUP
>SNAPPY POPCORN CO., IND.
>SNYDERS OF HANOVER
>SOBAYA
>SOBEY'S INC.
>SOBEYS - OSHAWA GROUP
>SOBEYS RETAIL BRAND
>SOBEYS, INC.
>SOCIETE FLANDRES PICARDIE LAIT
>SODA AROMATIC CO., LTD.
>SOGO PHARMACEUTICAL CO., LTD.
>SOLA BAKERY INC.
>SOLLER LLC
>SOMMER MAID
>SORIANA S.A. DE. C.V.
>SOUTHERN ACIDS (M) BERHAD
>SOUTHERN INDUSTRIAL SALES,INC.
>SOVEX FOODS, A DIVISION OF MCKEE FOODS CORP.
>SOY POWER, INC.
>SPARROW ENTERPRISES, LTD.
>SPARTAN CHEMICAL COMPANY INC.
>SPARTAN STORES, INC.
>SPECIALTY INDUSTRIAL PRODUCTS, INC.
>SPECTRUM COMMODITIES
>SPI POLYOLS, INC.
>STABILCHEM (M) SDN. BHD.
>STABILIMENTO FARMACEUTICO CAV.G.TESTA
>STAFF SUPERMARKETS, INC.
>STANDARD CANDY COMPANY
>STAR KAY WHITE INC.
>STAR MARKET
>STAR MARKET COMPANY
>START FRESH FOODS
>STATER BROS. MARKETS
>STATION CASINO
>STEINHAUSER POLSKA
>STENTORIAN INDUSTRIES CO., LTD.
>STEPAN COMPANY
>STOLT NIELSEN B.V.
>STONE MOUNTAIN SNACKS
>STOP & SHOP
>STOP & SHOP SUPERMARKET CO.
>STOW MILLS
>STRATHROY FOODS LIMITED
>STRETCH ISLAND FRUIT INC.
>STUCKEY'S CORPORATION
>SUBCO FOODS INC.
>SUN ACE KAKOH (MALAYSIA) SDN BHD
>SUN ACE KAKOH (PTE.) LTD.
>SUNCHEMICAL CO., LTD.
>SUNFRESH
>SUNFRESH, INC.
>SUNRISE CONFECTIONS
>SUNRISE INTERNATIONAL CO.
>SUNSET STATION
>SUNSHINE FRESH INC.
>SUPER C
>SUPER STORE INDUSTRIES
>SUPER VALUE, INC.
>SUPERBRAND DAIRY PRODUCTS INC.
>SUPERBRAND DAIRY PRODUCTS, INC.
>SUPERSTAR COCONUT PRODUCTS CO., INC.
>SUZANNE'S SPECIALTIES
>SWAN GARDENS
>SWEET EXPRESSION
>SWISS CHALET FINE FOODS, INC.
>SWISS DAIRY - SUIZA
>SWISS GOURMET
>SWISS VALLEY FARMS COMPANY
>SYCAMORE CREEK CO.
>SYLVIA WEINSTOCK CAKES
>SYSCO CORPORATION
>T & L CREATIVE SALADS INC.
>T. HASEGAWA CO., LTD. (JAPAN)
>T. HASEGAWA U.S.A., INC.
>TAIYO INTERNATIONAL INC.
>TAKASAGO FOOD PRODUCTS (FLAVORS)
>TANABE SEIYAKU CO., LTD (JAPAN)
>TANTOS FOODS INTERNATIONAL
>TARGET FLAVORS, INC.
>TASTY BAKING COMPANY
>TATA TEA, INC.
>TAYLOR FARMS
>TEE LEE POPCORN, INC.
>TEMPLE ISRAEL BROTHERHOOD
>TERRAPEZ S.A.
>TEXAS HOTEL
>THE AMERICAN SUGAR REFINING COMPANY
>THE DRESCHER CORPORATION
>THE ELI'S CHEESECAKE COMPANY
>THE FOOD SOURCE, INC.
>THE GOLUB CORPORATION
>THE GRAND UNION CO.
>THE GREAT A&P TEA COMPANY
>THE GREAT ATLANTIC AND PACIFIC CO.
>THE HEALTHY GOURMET
>THE KROGER COMPANY
>THE MASTERSON CO.
>THE MONTEREY CANNING CO.
>THE OSHAWA GROUP LTD./LE GROUPE OSHAWA LTEE
>THE STOP & SHOP SUPERMARKET COMPANY
>THE WARRELL CORPORATION
>THE WESTIN RIOMAR BEACH
>THE WISCONSIN CHEESEMAN, INC.
>THIRS-TEA CORPORATION
>THREE VEE CORPORATION
>TIANJIN FREEWORLD INDUSTRY COMPANY LMT
>TICOFRUT, S. A.
>TINUK, INC.
>TIP TOP CANNING
>TOM'S FOODS, INC.
>TOPCO ASSOCIATES, INC.
>TOPCO-RANDALLS FOOD MARKETS, INC.
>TOPS MARKETS, INC
>TORTILLERIA LA MEXICANA, INC.
>TOUFAYAN BAKERY INC.
>TOUFAYAN'S BAKERY
>TOUL SOCIEDADE PORTUGUESA DE DESIDRATACA
>TOYO GOSEI CO., LTD.
>TRADE-MARK COFFEE CORPORATION
>TRADER JOE
>TRADER JOE'S
>TRADER JOE'S EAST,INC.
>TRANSFORMACIONES AGRICOLAS DE BADAJOZ SA
>TREE OF LIFE, INC.
>TREFIN NV
>TRICO TECHNOLOGIES, INC.
>TRINIDAD BENHAM CORP.
>TRIPLE-C-INC
>TRITON SUPPLY CORP.
>TROPHY NUT CO.
>TROPICAL NUT & FRUIT INC.
>TROPICANA PRODUCTS, INC.
>TROPICS FROZEN COCKTAILS
>TUSCAN
>TWIN COUNTY GROCERS, INC.
>TWO TRIBES, LLC
>U.S. CHOCOLATE CORP.
>U.S. FLAVORS & FRAGRANCES, INC
>U.S. FOODSERVICE
>U.S. MILLS, INC.
>UBE INDUSTRIES, LTD.
>ULTRA TRADING INTERNATIONAL LTD.
>UNICO FOODS INC.
>UNICO, INC.
>UNILEVER
>UNIPRO FOODSERVICE
>UNIPRO FOODSERVICE, INC.
>UNIPRO FOODSERVICE-NIFDA
>UNIQEMA
>UNIQEMA, DIVISION OF UNICHEMA CHEMIE GMBH
>UNIQUELY TOGETHER, INC.
>UNITED WHOLESALE GROCERY CO.
>UNIVERSAL APEX INC.
>UPCOUNTRY, INC.
>UPSCALE FOODS INC.
>US FOODSERVICE, RYKOFF, AND SEXTON
>UTC
>V.B.S. PURVEYORS OF FINE FOODS
>VALENCIA FOODS, INC.
>VALUE AMERICA
>VAN HOUTON
>VAN HOUTTE INC.
>VARDA CHOCOLATIER
>VELDA FARMS, LLC
>VENTURA FOODS, LLC
>VIC'S GOURMET POPCORN
>VINTAGE SOUTH INC.
>VIRGINIA DARE EXTRACT CO., INC.
>VITABLEND BV
>VITAL & ZOON N.V.
>VITAMINS, INC.
>VITAMOR KFT.
>VITARROZ
>VITASOY (U.S.A.) INC.
>VITASOY USA, INC.
>VOGEL POPCORN
>VONS
>VVF LIMITED
>W. SCHUMACHER & CO. GMBH
>W.A. CLEARY PRODUCTS, INC.
>WAKEFERN FOOD CORPORATION
>WAKEFERN/SHOPRITE
>WAKUNAGA OF AMERICA CO., LTD.
>WAL-COR CORSANINI DI CARLO SANTINI & C.
>WAL-MART STORES INC.
>WALGREENS CO.
>WALNETTOS, INCORPORATED, DIST.
>WALTER RAU NEUSSER 01 UND FETT AG
>WANJASHAN MANDARIN SAUCE, INC.
>WARDS ICE CREAM CO. INC.
>WARRANWOOD WINERY
>WASABROD
>WASABROD AB
>WATSON SYSCO
>WATSONVILLE FOODS PRODUCT COMPANY
>WATTA MUNCH
>WEBSTER INDUSTRIES, INC.
>WEGMAN'S INC.
>WEIS MARKETS, INC.
>WEISS KOSHER BAKERY
>WEMMERS TANKTRANSPORT BV
>WENDY'S INTERNATIONAL, INC.
>WEST LYNN CREAMERY
>WESTBY CO-OP CREAMERY
>WESTERN COMMERCE CORPORATION
>WESTERN FAMILY FOODS, INC.
>WHITE ROSE FOODS
>WHITE STOKES
>WHITE STOKES CO.,
>WHITEHALL COMMODITY CORP.
>WHITTAKER, CLARK & DANIELS, INC.
>WHOLE FOODS
>WHOLE FOODS MARKET
>WHOLE HERB COMPANY
>WILCOX FARMS LLC
>WILD OATS MARKETS, INC
>WILD WEST PRODUCTS
>WILDWOOD NATURAL FOODS, INC.
>WILLMARK SALES CO.
>WILTON INDUSTRIES
>WINN DIXIE
>WINN DIXIE - PLANT #12-500
>WOLF & LAMB DELICATESSEN
>WOODSTOCK FARMS
>WORLD FINER FOODS, INC.
>WORLD OF CHANTILLY
>WORLD SPICE INC.
>WRITT SALES & SUPPLY D.B.A. NUTRITIONAL FOCUS
>WYTHE-WILL DIST. CO.
>YANCHENG HENDING NATIVE PRODUCTS CO. LTD
>YOHAY BAKING COMPANY
>YONEYAMA YAKUHIN KOGYO CO., LTD.
>YOST FOODS, INC.
>ZALOOM MARKETING CORP.
>ZANDER'S CREAMERY, INC.
>ZANDER'S CREAMERY, INC. #55-309
>ZELLERS INC.
>ZEON CHEMICALS YONEZAWA COMPANY, LTD.
>ZHEJIANG HAITONG FOOD GROUP CO., LTD.
>ZHEJIANG NHU COMPANY, LTD.
>ZHEJIANG SILVER RIVER FOODS CO., LTD.
>ZION NATURAL GOURMET FOOD
>ZOGLO'S
>ZOMICK'S BAKERY

>> >"Joe Bruno"  wrote in message
>> >news:t4od82pp9aosfg98b6u8r1ait9r0vbfd93@4ax.com...
>> >> George Firestone just does not like to read bad news affecting his fellow
>> >> ZHIDS!!

>> >> Heinz DID NOT reinstate the kosher tax in Canada, as George and his kosher
>> >> tax extortionists wished.
>> >> Heinz basicly told the COR gangsters they were just an unnecessary expense
>> >> on the buying public.

>> >> On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:57:36 -0500, "George" 
>> >> wrote:

>> >>>> Now, when you buy HEINZ and LIBBY goods, you are no
>> >>>> longer lining the pocketrs of the COR Jew parasites,
>> >>>> like the so-called kosher food inspector in Calgary,
>> >>>> Toronto and wherever they hide under the rocks....
>> >>>> Now, these leeches will have to try and find some work to do,
>> >>>> such as janitorial, road sweeping or whatever they may be
>> >>>> qualified to do...

>> >>>Compare the pervert who posted the lines above with reality from Heinz.
>> >>>Now you can see what a ranting nutcase he really is.

>> >>>      Heinz Canada trims kosher product line
>> >>>      By JENNIFER M. PAQUETTE
>> >>>      Special to The CJN
>> >>>      Kosher shoppers were shocked recently to discover that Heinz Canada
>> >>>     has removed kosher certification from all but a handful of its products.
>> >>>      According to company spokesperson Anna Relyea, the move stemmed from  a
>> >>>     desire to "keep costs down while continuing to provide kosher products to
>> >>>     our customers."

>> >>>      COR officials say consumer response indicates the decision may have
>> >>>     been a mistake, one which they say Heinz may reverse in the foreseeable
>> >>>     future.
>> >>>      Only a few Heinz products remain under supervision, including ketchup,
>> >>>     infant cereal and tomato juice.
>> >>>      Items that are no longer kosher include staples such as tomato sauces
>> >>>      and paste, vinegar and mustard.
>> >>>      Heinz jarred baby foods are also no longer kosher, and Heinz - as the
>> >>>      federal Competition Bureau noted three years ago when it investigated the
>> >>>      company for anti-competitive practices in the sector - is the sole supplier
>> >>>      of jarred baby food in Canada.
>> >>>      As a result, many parents will be forced to buy more expensive
>> >>>      imported kosher baby foods, such as Beech-Nut. (Heinz "Pablum" dry baby
>> >>        foods remain kosher.)

>> >>>      The decertification decision follows a deal last year between Heinz
>> >>>      Canada's parent company in the United States and Del Monte that saw Del
>> >>>      Monte acquire a number of leading Heinz brands, including Starkist tuna.
>> >>>      But "the Del Monte deal has nothing to do with this decision," Relyea said.

>> >>>      "This was done after a lot of careful consideration," she said. "Only
>> >>>      when there were no other options available did we decide to remove the
>> >>>      designations."

>> >>>      In the 1920s, Heinz products in the United States were the first to
>> >>>      carry national kosher certification under the "OU" hechsher, which still
>> >>>      certifies many American-made Heinz products.

>> >>>      Heinz Canada has also discontinued supervision on all domestic beans,
>> >>>      including those formerly manufactured under the Libby's label. Libby's was
>> >>>      acquired by Heinz Canada in 1996, and at that time, the changeover did not
>> >>>      compromise the longstanding certification of products, including the
>> >>>      vegetarian Deep Browned Beans variety.
>> >>>      Products were cut from the kosher line based on a variety of factors,
>> >>>      Relyea said, including "how complex the manufacturing is, what the savings
>> >>>      were and so on."

>> >>>      The size of a product category was also a major factor, she said. "For
>> >>>      example, in the case of ketchup, [the category] is huge, so maintaining
>> >>>      kosher made sense."
>> >>>      Ending the certification on beans was more of a logistics issue, given
>> >>>      the complexity of producing a product with pork and a kosher vegetarian
>> >>>      product at the same time.

>> >>>      Rabbi Mordechai Levin, COR's executive director, said there are
>> >>>      "definite problems there. They're making kosher and non-kosher products on
>> >>>      the same equipment."
>> >>>      Based in Toronto, Heinz Canada is one of 40 worldwide subsidiaries of
>> >>>      its U.S. parent. It employs 2,000 full-time salaried and hourly employees
>> >>>      and more than 500 seasonal staff.
>> >>>      Relyea called the Canadian marketplace a "very competitive retail
>> >>>      trade environment," one that keeps the company "under continual pressure to
>> >>       >keep costs down to remain competitive."

>> >>>      However, she was unable to substantiate company claims that the move
>> >>>      will save money.
>> >>>      In 1991, a Heinz spokesperson, quoted in an Anti-Defamation League
>> >>>      document arguing against claims that kosher supervision "taxes" non-Jewish
>> >>>      consumers, said the per item cost [of supervision] is "so small we can't
>> >>>      even calculate it," and that kosher labelling actually makes products less
>> >>>      costly by increasing the market for them.
>> >>>      Relyea says the de-listing hasn't affected any Heinz products in the
>> >>>      United States.
>> >>>      "I want to reassure people that [for] the products that are currently
>> >>>      kosher American products, this decision doesn't affect them at all
>> >>>      there's a whole range of beans available that remain kosher in the U.S., because
>> >>>     it's a much larger market."
>> >>>      Regarding consumer feedback, Relyea said, "we've done as much as we
>> >>>      can to retain the kosher designation where possible." She downplayed the
>> >>>     change, saying "it's a small percentage [of products] that were
>> >>>     de-koshered.'"
>> >>>      Rabbi Levin said Heinz simply "didn't do their homework very well.
>> >>>      Consumers are complaining that there are no baked beans, or that other
>> >>>      products that they're accustomed to using aren't available any more."
>> >>>      The move has caused confusion in the Jewish community, he said, and
>> >>>      rumours have been circulating that the products are still under COR
>> >>>      certification, but packaged without the kosher symbol.
>> >>>      Rabbi Levin said there is no truth to the rumour. "We don't endorse
>> >>>     anything without the COR on the label, especially something that
>> >>>     only products bearing the COR label are acceptable."
>> >>>      He said he is optimistic some Canadian Heinz products may become
>> >>>      kosher again soon.
>> >>>      "We've asked Heinz to revisit [the decision]," he said.
>> >>>      Relyea said she is unaware of efforts that might have been made to
>> >>>      find alternatives to de-certifying and wouldn't comment on possible future
>> >>>      changes.
>> >>>      Meanwhile, COR is asking consumers to continue contacting Heinz to
>> >>>      express their concerns.
>> >>>      "Hopefully," said Rabbi Levin, "we can get some of the products back
>> >>>      on line."

>> >>>> Notice that parasite Ken McVay AGREES WITH THE TRUTH OF THE
>> >>>> ARTICLES. That is why his Jew masters have him do ad
>> >>>> hominem attacks instead, to try and divert attention!!


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On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 01:33:28 -0400, "USNSM"  wrote:

>They pass on the cost to the consumer. This hidden tax cost Americans 100's 
>of millions each year.  Look in your refrigerator or cabinets and see how 
>many items in there have the "k" or the "u" symbol. They have to pay Jewish 
>rabbis to get those kosher symbols put on their food. Here is a small list 
>of companies who pay the tax

> 15TH AVENUE INC.
>A BAGUETTE BAR
>A SOUTHERN SEASON
>A. FODERA & SONS INC.
>AB NORDBAKELS
>ABACO INC.
>ACIDCHEM INTERNATIONAL SDN. BHD.
>ADOHR FARMS (DIV. OF SUIZA) PLANT #06-70
>AGRAZ S.A.
>AGRI-MARK - PLANT #50-40
>AGROINDUSTRIAS CEPIA S.A.
>AGUSA, INC.
>AHOLD USA
>AHOLD USA, INC.
>AIR STREAM FOODS
>AISAN CHEMICAL CO., LTD.
>AIYA AMERICA INC.
>AJINOMOTO CO., INC.
>AJINOMOTO U.S.A., INC.
>AKZO-NOBEL CHEMICALS, INC.
>AL GELATO, OGGI, INC.
>ALBERTSON'S INC.
>ALCAN FOIL PRODUCTS
>ALDI, INC.
>ALEXIA FOODS LLC
>ALFREBRO, INC.
>ALIMENTOS KAMUK INT. C.R. S.A.
>ALL KITCHENS OF AMERICA
>ALLAN CHEMICAL CORP
>ALLIANT FOODSERVICE
>ALLIED INTERNATIONAL CORP.
>ALTHAEA N.V.
>ALTO DAIRY COOPERATIVE, PLANT #55-0863
>ALTO DAIRY COOPERATIVE, PLANT #55-112
>AMAZON CAFE (S.I.A.E.A.1. INC.)
>AMERICAN ALMOND PRODUCTS CO.
>AMERICAN BAKELS, INC.
>AMERICAN CLASSIC SPECIALTIES CORP.
>AMERICAN GROWERS FOODS
>AMERICAN INTERNATIONAL CHEMICAL
>AMERICAN KEY FOOD PRODUCTS
>AMERICAN PROCUREMENT & LOGISTICS
>AMERICAN ROLAND FOOD CORP.
>AMERICAN SOY PRODUCTS, INC.
>AMERICAN STORES COMPANY
>AMERICAN SUGAR REFINING INC.
>AMERICAN VALUE BRANDS
>AMERICAN YEAST SALES
>AMERIPAC CHEMICAL CORPORATION
>AMERIPAC YONG CHANG CHEMICAL CO. LTD.
>AMT LABS, INC.
>ANDERSON DAIRY
>ANDERSON INTERNATIONAL FOODS
>APAC CHEMICAL CORPORATION
>APK INC.
>APPLETON PRODUCE CO.
>ARAMARK
>ARAYASSI, INC.
>ARC-MEN FOOD INDUSTRIES CORPORATION
>ARISTA INDUSTRIES, INC.
>ARROWHEAD MILLS INC.
>ARWAY CONFECTIONS, INC.
>ASAF INTERNATIONAL, INC. (AROMA KOSHER RESTAU)
>ASAHI DENKA CO., LTD.
>ASAHI FOOD & HEALTHCARE CO., LTD.
>ASAP FOOD PRODUCTS
>ASBO DESHIDRATADOS LTDA.
>ASHLAND CHEMICAL, INC.
>ASHLAND DISTRIBUTION COMPANY
>ASHLAND DISTRIBUTION COMPANY A DIV OF ASHLAND INC.
>ASSOCIATED BRANDS INC.
>ASSOCIATED BRANDS, INC. (ONTARIO FOODS)
>ASSOCIATED FOOD STORES
>ASSOCIATED WHOLESALE GROCERS, INC.
>ASTOR PRODUCTS, INC.
>ATHENS PASTRIES & FROZEN FOODS
>ATKINSON PECAN CANDIES
>ATLANTIC QUALITY SPICE & SEASONINGS
>ATLAS PRESERVES CO., INC.
>AUSTIN SPECIAL FOODS COMPANY (ASFC)
>AVATAR CORPORATION
>AZAR NUT COMPANY
>B&B INTERNATIONAL CONNECTIONS, INC.
>B&G S.R.L.
>B.J.'S WHOLESALE CLUB
>BADIA SPICES, INC.
>BAGEL TIME RESTAURANT
>BAGELTIME
>BAKE LINE PRODUCTS, INC.
>BAKEMARK - RAMCO DIST.
>BAKEMARK-BUFFALO
>BAKER'S CHOICE CONFECTIONARY
>BAKERY DISTRIBUTERS OF AMERICA
>BALDWIN RICHARDSON FOODS CO.
>BALFORD FARMS
>BALTIMORE INGREDIENTS INTERNATIONAL
>BALTIMORE INGREDIENTS INTERNATIONAL (R)
>BARKAN WINE CELLARS LTD.
>BARLEANS ORGANIC OIL
>BARONA CASINO
>BARRY CALLEBAUT BELGIUM NV
>BARRY CALLEBAUT CANADA INC.
>BARRY CALLEBAUT USA INC.
>BARUCH RESTAURANT
>BASF CORPORATION
>BASF CORPORATION (FREEPORT, TX)
>BASF CORPORATION (GEISMAR, LA)
>BASIC CHEMICAL SOLUTIONS
>BASIC CHEMICAL SOLUTIONS (PVS)
>BASIC FOOD FLAVORS
>BECKER'S MILK & ICE CREAM
>BEE NATURAL HONEY CO., INC.
>BEHN MEYER INTERNATIONAL TRADING SDN BHD
>BEIJING TIANLIHAI CHEMICAL CO., LTD.
>BELGOMILK - LANGEMARK BELGIUM
>BELL BAGEL
>BEN E. KEITH FOODS
>BENZ'S FOOD PROD., INC.
>BERG & SCHMIDT
>BERG + SCHMIDT
>BEST BRANDS CO. LTD. (MEILLEURES MARQUES)
>BI-LO
>BIG 8 ADVERTISING L.C.
>BIG BOY FOOD GROUP LLC
>BIG Y FOODS, INC.
>BIO EXTRACT GMBH
>BIOCON DEL PERU S.A.
>BISCUITS LECLERC LTD.
>BISSALEH CAFE
>BISTRO GRILL
>BLOCKBUSTER ENTERTAINMENT, INC.
>BLOMMER CHOCOLATE COMPANY
>BLUE & WHITE FOOD CORP.
>BLUE DIAMOND GROWERS
>BLUE RIDGE FARMS, INC.
>BLUE SQUARE LTD.
>BLUE SUN LLC TRADER JOES
>BLUEDOG ASSOCIATES, INC.
>BMF INC.
>BON SUISSE INC.
>BOOKBINDER'S FOOD DIVISION
>BORDEN
>BOTANICALS INTERNATIONAL-ZETAPHARMS
>BOTANICALS INTL EXTRACTS-A HAUSER CO.
>BOULDER POTATO CO.
>BOULDER STATION
>BOUWHUIS EIPRODUKTEN B.V.
>BRAND AROMATICS
>BRANDS & BRANDS, LLC
>BREWSTER DAIRY (STOCKTON CHEESE) #17-565
>BREWSTER DAIRY, INC.
>BREWSTER DAIRY, INC., PLANT # 39-101
>BRISKA INC.
>BRITE WAY FOODS
>BROADWAY CAFE PIZZA & HEALTH BAR
>BROOK FARMS - NEW HAMPSHIRE LABEL
>BROOKSIDE PRODUCTS LTD.
>BRUNO'S
>C & D DETERGENTS
>CAFE CLASSICO
>CAHOKIA FLOUR COMPANY
>CAHOKIA-BAKEMARK
>CAL-WESTERN TRANSPORT, INC.
>CALGON CORPORATION
>CALIFORNIA PRETZEL CO., INC.
>CALIFORNIA PRUNE PACKING CO.
>CAMPOS BROS. FARMS
>CANANDAIGUA WEST INC.
>CAPCO ENTERPRISES INC.
>CAPITAL ENTERPRISE
>CAPPUCCINO AMERICANA CORP.
>CARGILL INC.
>CARGILL PALM PRODUCTS SDN BHD
>CARGILL SPECIALTY OILS & FATS SDN BHD
>CARL BRANDT GMBH & CO.
>CARLSBERG BREWERIES A/S
>CARVEL ICE CREAM
>CATANIA-SPAGNA CORPORATION
>CATERING BY SOLA
>CELLA'S CONFECTIONS, INC.
>CENTO FINE FOODS
>CENTRAL GROCERS COOPERATIVE, INC.
>CENTURY FOODS INTERNATIONAL
>CENTURY FOODS POWDER (55-349)
>CEREAL PROCESSING, INC.
>CEREOL NOVENYOLAJIPARI RT. MAGYARORZAG
>CERTIFIED GROCERS MIDWEST INC.
>CERTIFIED GROCERS OF CALIFORNIA, LTD.
>CESALPINIA FOOD SPA
>CHADLER U.S.A, INC.
>CHAI CUISINE
>CHALLENGE DAIRY PRODUCTS, INC.
>CHEMCENTRAL
>CHEMCENTRAL SOUTHWEST, L.P.
>CHEMICAL DISTRIBUTORS INC.
>CHEMSON GMBH
>CHERYL & CO.
>CHEVRON/TEXACO GLOBAL LUBRICANTS
>CHICAGO SWEETENERS INC.
>CHINA VITAMINS, LLC
>CHOICE PRODUCTS USA, LLC.
>CHR. HANSEN A/S
>CHR. HANSEN, INC.
>CHRISTOPHER RANCH II, L.L.C.
>CIA INDUSTRIAL DEL LUKUS, S.A.
>CINDERELLA SWEETS
>CINE CITTA CAFFE
>CIRCUS CIRCUS HOTEL CASINO
>CITROSUCO NORTH AMERICA, INC.
>CITURGIA BIOCHEMICALS LIMITED
>CLARK PRODUCTS INC.
>CLARK RETAIL ENTERPRISES(WHITE HEN)
>CLASSIC EGG PRODUCTS, INC.
>CLASSIC FLAVORS & FRAGRANCES
>CLEANSE-TEC
>CLEARSPRING LIMITED
>CLEMENT PAPPAS & CO., INC.
>CLOVERHILL PASTRY VEND CORPORATION
>CMEC XINJIANG FOODSTUFF CO., LTD.
>CODE-EMCO FOODSERVICE
>COFFEE MASTERS, INC.
>COGNIS CORPORATION
>COGNIS DEUTSCHLAND GMBH & CO. KG
>COGNIS FRANCE
>COGNIS FRANCE - BOUSSENS
>COGNIS NUTRITION TECHNOLOGY
>COIFIOCCHI RESTAURANT
>COLABOT CANADA (1973) LTEE
>COLAVITA U.S.A.
>COLD ALEX FOR FOOD PROCESSING
>COLOMBINA, S.A.
>COLORADO BELLE
>COMMUNITY COFFEE COMPANY, LLC
>COMPANIA LICORERA DE NICARAGUA S.A.
>COMPASS FOODS, INC.
>COMSOURCE
>COMSOURCE INDEPENDENT FOODSERVICE COMPANIES, INC.
>CON AGRA FOODS LTD.
>CONAGRA DIVERSIFIED FOOD PRODUCTS COMPANY
>CONAGRA FOODS RETAIL PRODUCTS CO. GROCERY FOODS GROUP
>CONAGRA FOODS SNACK FOODS GROUP POPCORN DIVISION
>CONAGRA GROCERY PRODUCTS LIMITED
>CONCORD FOODS, INC.
>CONSERVAS VEGETALES DE EXTREMADURA, S.A.
>CONSORZIO BIOITALIA ALIMENTARE
>CONSUMER BRANDED PROFESSIONAL PRODUCTS DIV, JOHNSONDIVERSEY INC.
>COOK IN A CROCK
>COOK NATURAL PRODUCTS
>COOKIE KINGDOM
>COOKIE KINGDOM, INC.
>CORRADO SPECIALTY GOODS, INC.
>COSMO'S FOOD PRODUCTS
>COUNTRY COFFEE, INC.
>COW TREE DISTRIBUTORS INC.
>CP KELCO APS
>CP KELCO GERMANY GMBH
>CP KELCO PHILIPPINES, INC.
>CRACKER BARREL OLD COUNTRY STORES
>CRISTALIA ACQUISITION CORP.
>CRODA SINGAPORE PTE. LTD.
>CROSSWIND FOODS, INC.
>CWG PRODUCTS
>CYANOTECH CORPORATION
>CYTEC INDUSTRIES INC.
>CYTEC INDUSTRIES UK LTD.
>DACOSTA & CO
>DAGAN PIZZA
>DAICEL CHEMICAL INDUSTIRES, ARAI
>DAICEL CHEMICAL INDUSTRIES, LTD.
>DAIRFAIR FARMS
>DAIRY FRESH FOODS INC.
>DAIRY MARKETING ALLIANCE, LLC
>DALIAN F.T.Z. WENDA INTERNATIONAL TRADE
>DAN-D FOODS
>DANISCO MALAYSIA SDN BHD
>DANNY'S RESTAURANT
>DARNA RESTAURANT
>DAVID MICHAEL & CO., INC.
>DAVID ROSEN BAKERS SUPPLY
>DAVIS GRANDE
>DAWN FOOD PRODUCTS
>DAWN FOOD PRODUCTS,INC
>DEAN BRENNAN TRANSPORT, INC.
>DEAN FOODS (KENTUCKY)
>DEB-EL FOODS
>DECOPAC
>DEEP SOUTH PRODUCTS
>DEEP SOUTH PRODUCTS INC.
>DEGUSSA
>DEGUSSA FLAVORS
>DEGUSSA TEXTURANT SYSTEMS
>DEHYDRATES, INC.
>DEL MAR FOOD PRODUCTS CORP.
>DEL MONTE FRESH PRODUCE
>DELAFAILLE NV
>DELI KASBAH
>DELICIOUS PIZZA SHOP
>DELL'S MARASCHINO CHERRIES CO.
>DEMASA HEARTS OF PALM DIVISION
>DESERT HERB COMPANY
>DETROIT CITY DAIRY
>DEVANSOY FARMS
>DIAMOND DISTRICT CLUB--DIAMANTE PIZZA
>DIDCO IMPORTS CORP.
>DINESEN TRADING COMPANY
>DINTER GMBH
>DMV U.S.A.
>DOMANI RISTORANTE
>DOMINICK'S FINER FOODS
>DOMINION PRODUCTS, INC.
>DORVAL TRADING CO., LTD.
>DOUGIE'S BBQ NYC
>DSM BAKERY INGREDIENTS B.V.
>DSM FOOD SPECIALTIES (DAIRY INGREDIENTS)
>DSM FOOD SPECIALTIES B.V.
>DSM FOOD SPECIALTIES USA, INC. (SAVORY)
>DUBOIS-NATURAL ESTERS SDN BHD
>DUNKIN' DONUTS
>DUSO CHEMICAL COMPANY, INC.
>DUTCH COCOA BV
>DUTCH VALLEY FOOD DIST.(BULK FOODS INC)
>E.J. COX CO. INC.
>EAGLE FOOD STORES
>EAGLE SPICE AND EXTRACT CO.
>EASTERN BULK TRANSPORT, INC.
>EASTERN MALT CORPORATION
>EBRO FOODS, INC.
>EDEN FOODS
>EDGEWATER HOTEL CASINO
>EDWARD DON & CO.
>EEE'S BAKERY AND CAFE
>EGON HIRSCH GMBH & CO., KG
>ELGIN DAIRY FOODS, INC.
>ELI'S BREAD, INC.
>ELITE FOODS, LTD
>ELITE INDUSTRIES LTD.
>EM HACHITA
>EMCO CHEMICAL
>EMCO FOODSERVICE SYSTEMS
>EMERALD CATERING
>EMERALD INDUSTRIES DIVISION
>EMERSON MARKETING CO.
>ENERGY BEVERAGE CO., INC.
>ENGELHARD CORP-CHEMICAL CATALYST GROUP
>ENGELHARD CORP. CHEMICAL CATALYSTS GROUP
>ENGELHARD DE MEERN B.V.
>ESTERCHEM (M) SDN BHD
>ESTERCHEM(M)SDN.BHD.
>ESTEROL SDN BHD
>EUROCOM SRL
>EUROLAT S.P.A.
>EUROMAS NV
>EUROPA GRILL
>EXCALIBUR HOTEL CASINO
>EXTRA MARKETING
>F.B. WASHBURN CANDY CORPORATION
>F.LLI DAMIANO E C.S.R.L.
>FACI ASIA PACIFIC PTE LTD
>FAIRWAY MARKETS
>FAME MARKETING CORP.
>FAME MARKETING CORPORATION
>FAMOUS FIXINS, INC.
>FAR EAST INDUSTRIES, INC.
>FAREWAY STORES
>FARMERS DAIRIES
>FARMLAND PRODUCTS
>FATTAL'S BAKERY & GROCERY
>FATTY CHEMICALS (MALAYSIA) SDN BHD
>FAZER BAKERIES LTD.
>FCI TECHNOLIGIES, INC.
>FEDERATED FOOD GROUP, INC.
>FERRO PFANSTIEHL LABORATORIES, INC.
>FETTRAFFINERIE BRAKE
>FIBRE CHEMICALS
>FIESTA BRANDS, INC.
>FIESTA CANNING COMPANY, INC.
>FIESTA MART INC.
>FIGUEROA BROTHERS, INC
>FILTERFRESH CORP.
>FINEST BRAND FOODS DIST. CO.
>FIRST GRADE AGENCY PTE LTD
>FIRST SPICE MIXING CO.
>FIRST SPICE MIXING CO., INC.
>FLASH FOODS
>FLAVOR & FOOD INGREDIENTS INC.
>FLAVOR CONCEPTS, INC.
>FLAVOR DYNAMICS, INC.
>FLAVORMATIC INDUSTRIES, INC.
>FLAVORS OF NORTH AMERICA
>FLEISCHMANN'S YEAST, DIVISION OF BURNS PHILP FOOD
>FLEMING
>FLEMING COMPANIES, INC.
>FLEMING COMPANIES,INC
>FLEURCHEM, INC.
>FOIL LAMINATING INC.
>FONTESANA
>FOOD EMPORIUM
>FOOD HANDLER INC.
>FOOD LION, LLC
>FOOD SERVICE OF AMERICA
>FOOD TOWN
>FOOD TRADING CORP. OF AMERICA
>FOODHOLD U.S.A., INC.
>FOODHOLD USA
>FOODTOWN
>FORD'S FOODS,INC.
>FOREMAN FOODS INC.
>FOREMOST FARMS USA
>FORMOSA PLASTIC CORP., USA
>FOSTER FARMS DAIRY
>FRANK A. SERIO & SONS, INC.
>FRANK C. ALEGRE TRUCKING, INC.
>FRANKENMUTH FUNDRAISING CORP
>FRANKLIN BAKER COCONUT
>FRANKLIN CONNECTIONS L.P.
>FRED MEYER
>FRED MEYER, INC.
>FREEDOM TRAIL MIX
>FRESH EXPRESS
>FRESNO TRUCKWASH
>FRIEDMAN'S FISH
>FRIENDLY ICE CREAM CORPORATION
>FRINGS AMERICA INC.
>FROSTY ACRES BRANDS
>FRUIT A FREEZE
>FRY'S FOOD AND DRUG STORE
>FURR'S SUPERMARKETS, INC.
>G. SCACCIANOCE & CO.
>G.M.V. CHOCOLATES
>GALLO PROTEIN - PLANT #06-77
>GALORE FOODS, INC.
>GAMAY FOODS, INC.
>GANDY'S DAIRIES INC.
>GANI PRODUCTS, INC.
>GARDEN BY THE COURT
>GARDEN SPOT DISTRIBUTORS
>GARELICK FARMS
>GARY NULL ASSOC
>GAT FOODS
>GATEWAY TERMINAL SERVICES
>GENERAL MILLS, INC. FOODSERVICE DIV
>GENUARDI'S FAMILY MARKETS
>GENUTH SUPPLY CORP.
>GEORGE HAND DISTILLED PRODUCTS LTD.
>GERMANTOWN INTERNATIONAL LTD.
>GFA BRANDS INC.
>GIANT EAGLE
>GIANT FOOD, INC.
>GIANT FOODS
>GIANT OF MARYLAND
>GIFTCO INC.
>GILETTE FOODS INC.
>GILSTER MARY LEE (CEREAL PLANT)
>GILSTER MARY LEE (POPCORN PLANT)
>GILSTER MARY LEE CORPORATION
>GIRL SCOUTS OF THE U.S.A.
>GIVAUDAN/INTERNATIONAL BIOFLAVORS, INC.
>GIVERE CHOCOLATIER INC.
>GLACIER CLEAR
>GLACIER CLEAR ORANGE SPRINGS
>GLADDER'S GOURMET COOKIES, INC.
>GLOBAL EXPORT MARKETING. CO., LTD.
>GLOBAL PROTEIN FOODS
>GLOBAL TRADING, INC.
>GLOBE NATURAL INTERNACIONAL, S.A.
>GODO SHUSEI COMPANY, LTD.
>GOLAN HEIGHTS WINERY LTD.
>GOLD HARBOR COMMODITIES INC.
>GOLDEN GLOW COOKIE CO., INC.
>GOLDEN SELECT FOODS COMPANY
>GOLDEN STATE BAKERY SUPPLY INC
>GOLDEN TASTE INC.
>GORDON FOOD SERVICES
>GOSSNER FOODS INC - PLANT #49-61
>GRACE BAKING
>GRAND UNION CO
>GRANDE CHEESE COMPANY
>GRAPPOLINI G. SURL
>GRAY & COMPANY
>GREAT AMERICAN OPPORTUNITIES
>GREAT ATLANTIC & PACIFIC COMPANY OF CANADA LTD.
>GREAT EASTERN SUN COMPANY
>GREEN'S
>GRIFFITH LABORATORIES
>GROUPE JEAN COUTU (PJC)
>GUANSHENGYUAN KYOWA AMINO ACID CO. LTD.
>GUILD ENTERPRISES INC./ALGAM AGENCIES LTD.
>GUS SCLAFANI CORP.
>GUSTO VA MARE
>GUYLIAN NV CHOCOLATERIE
>H.B. FULLER COMPANY
>H.C.I. CHEMICALS (USA) INC.
>H.E. BUTT GROCERY CO.
>H.E. BUTT GROCERY COMPANY
>H.L. BENNDORF CORP.
>HACO, LTD.
>HADDON HOUSE FOOD PRODUCTS, INC.
>HADLEY DATE GARDENS
>HAGGADAH PASSOVER BAKERY
>HAIFA SMOKED FISH,INC.
>HALL OF FAME CANDY & NUTS
>HAMAMA MEIR TRADING LTD.
>HANNAFORD BROS. CO.
>HANNAFORD BROTHERS
>HAPPY & HEALTHY PRODUCTS, INC.
>HARCOS CHEMICALS INC.
>HARRIS TEETER
>HARRY'S FARMERS MARKET
>HAUSER INC.
>HAWK DAIRY
>HAWK DAIRY (PLANT #34-010730)
>HAWK FLOUR MILLS
>HAWKINS, INC.
>HAYASHIBARA INTERNATIONAL INC.
>HEALTHY DELITES.COM CORP.
>HEARTLAND HONEY LLC
>HEBEI NEW DONGHUA AMINO ACID CO, LTD.
>HELIANTHUS S.A.C.
>HELLER'S SEASONING & INGREDIENTS
>HENRY BROCH & COMPANY
>HERCULES DOEL B.V.B.A. (AQUALON DIVISION)
>HERR FOODS INC.
>HERSHEY IMPORT CO., INC.
>HESCO FOOD INDUSTRY CO., INC.
>HESEGO INDUSTRY SDN,BHD,
>HI-MAR SPECIALTIES, INC.
>HIALEAH PRODUCTS CO. D/B/A OH NUTS
>HIRSCH BROS. BAKERY
>HKS MARKETING LIMITED
>HOD HEFER LTD.
>HOLLANDIA DAIRY
>HOMER OIL COMPANY, INC.
>HONG MAO BIOCHEMICALS CO., LTD.
>HOOGWEGT INTERNATIONAL BV
>HORSTMANN MIX & CREAM, INC.
>HOSTBROOK SPA
>HOTEL BAR
>HRW PRODUCTIONS, INC.
>HUB FOOD CORP.
>HUBBARD PEANUT CO., INC.
>HUBEI YITAI PHARMACEUTICAL CO., LTD.
>HUBER CHEMICALS INDIA
>HUDSON'S COFFEE
>HUHTAMAKI RETAIL BUSINESS UNIT
>HY-VEE, INC.
>I. TSALOVITCH PROPERTIES & INVESTMENTS LTD.
>IDEA SPA
>IFF INDIA
>IFF INTL. FLAVORS & FRAGRANCES, INC.
>IFFCO (M) SDN. BHD.
>IFS
>IGA, INC.
>IMAC INT'L MEDIA & CULTURES PL # 31-221
>IMAGINATION IN ACTION, INC.
>IMPERIAL CROWN MARKETING CORP. INDUSTRIAL DESHIDRATADORA, S.A. DE C.V.
>INDUSTRIALIZADORA INTEGRAL DEL AGAVE,S.A
>INDUSTRIAS DEL MAIZ S.A.
>INDUSTRIAS J. MATAS
>INDYBAKE PRODUCTS
>INGLES
>INGLES MARKETS, INC.
>INGREDIA
>INGREDIENTES KERRY DE MEXICO S.A. DE C.V
>INNOVATIVE CEREAL PRODUCTS INC.
>INOVATECH USA,INC
>INTERCOM, S.A.
>INTERNATIONAL FOOD SOLUTIONS
>INTERNATIONAL FOODCRAFT CORP.
>INTERNATIONAL MOLASSES CORPORATION
>INTERNATIONAL SPECIALTY PRODUCTS
>INTERPROVINCIAL COOPERATIVE LIMITED
>INTERSEM S.A.
>INTERSTATE BAKERIES CORP.
>INVERTEC FOODS S.A.
>INVERTEC NATURAL JUICE S.A.
>ISLAND OASIS
>ISRAEL BEER BREWERIES LTD.
>ISRAEL BEIGEL BAKING COMPANY
>ITALO SUISSE NV
>J&D FINE FOODS
>J. RUTIGLIANO & SONS, INC.
>J.M. HUBER BELGIUM
>J.M. HUBER CORPORATION
>J.M. HUBER FINLAND OY
>J.R. SHORT MILLING COMPANY
>JADA SPECIALITIES, INC.
>JAHNCKE FRUCHTSAFTE-KONZENTRATE GMBH & CO. KG
>JAMCO/MULTIFOODS
>JAN DEKKER INTERNATIONAL BV
>JAYANT AGRO-ORGANICS LTD
>JAYANT AGRO-ORGANICS LTD.
>JAYANT OIL MILLS
>JEEN INTERNATIONAL CORP.
>JERUSALEM KOSHER RESTAURANT
>JIANGSU DIYI PHARMACEUTICAL CO., LTD.
>JINIL AU CHOCOLAT
>JOEY'S FINE FOODS, INC.
>JOHNSON MATTHEY CHEMICALS GMBH
>JON-LIN FROZEN FOODS
>JOSEPH ADAMS CORPORATION
>JOSEPH RUTIGLIANO & SONS INC.
>JOSEPH ZAKON WINERY
>JP FOODSERVICE INC.
>JP NORTH AMERICA INC.
>JPL MARKETING INC.
>K & W POPCORN, INC.
>K-MART CORPORATION
>K. KALUSTYAN ORIENT EXPERT TRADING CORP.
>KARLSHAMNS BV
>KASHIMA CHEMICAL CO., LTD.
>KASTNER'S PASTRIES
>KATHRYN BEICH
>KEEBLER - SUNSHINE BISCUITS, INC.
>KEEBLER COMPANY
>KEEBLER COMPANY - PLANT #39-132
>KEEFE SUPPLY CO
>KELLERS CREAMERY LLC
>KELLOGG'S/WORTHINGTON FOODS, INC
>KEMACH FOOD PRODUCTS
>KENNIE'S MARKET INC.
>KERN LABORATORIES
>KERRY INGREDIENTS (BELOIT)
>KEY FOODS
>KIC CHEMICALS, INC.
>KIME'S CIDER MILL
>KINERET
>KING ARTHUR FLOUR INC.
>KING KULLEN
>KING KULLEN GROCERY
>KINGS SUPERMARKETS
>KLEIN'S NATURALS
>KLENE'S
>KOHJIN CO., LTD
>KONGO CHEMICAL CO., LTD.
>KONTOS FOODS, INC.
>KOPPER'S CHOCOLATE COMPANY
>KOSHER CHINESE EXPRESS
>KRAFT CANADA, INC
>KRAFT FOOD INGREDIENTS (KFI)
>KRAFT FOODS
>KRAFT FOODS (CHURNY)
>KRAFT FOODS (POST)
>KRAFT FOODS (USDA #06-25)
>KRAFT FOODS (USDA #36-2010)
>KRAFT FOODS COFFEE OPERATIONS GERMANY
>KRAFT FOODS SCHWEIZ AG
>KRAFT FOODS, INC.
>KRAFT FOODS, INC. (ATLANTIC GELATIN)
>KRAFT FOODSERVICE, INC.
>KRAFT NORTH AMERICA EAST HANOVER TECH CENTER
>KRAUS & COMPANY, INC./B.C. FLAVORS, INC.
>KRISPY KERNEL, INC.
>KROGER
>KROGER ATLANTA
>KYOWA HAKKO U.S.A., INC.
>KYUSHU KAKO CO.,LTD
>LA GALVANINA S.P.A.
>LA PREFERIDA INC.
>LAITERIE DE SAINT MALO SA
>LALLEMAND INC
>LAMBENT TECHNOLOGIES
>LAMONTAGNE CHOCOLATE INC.
>LANCO CORPORATION - PARAMOUNT CHOCOLATES
>LAND O SUN DAIRIES LLC
>LAND O'LAKES, INC.
>LANGER TRANSPORT CORPORATION
>LAS BRAND INC.
>LAS S.R.L.
>LAWRENCE FOODS
>LE MARAIS (GK GRILL, LLC.)
>LEACH FARMS, INC.
>LEHIGH VALLEY DAIRIES
>LEIBER GMBH
>LES ALIMENTS CSP FOODS
>LES VINS MAYER HALPERN
>LESAFFRE YEAST CORP
>LESAFFRE YEAST CORP.
>LIGHTLIFE FOODS, INC.
>LIN'S KOSHER CHINESE KITCHEN (MAIL ADD)
>LINDLEY MILLS, INC.
>LINETTE QUALITY CHOCOLATES
>LIPIDCHEM
>LIPO CHEMICALS, INC.
>LIPTON
>LOBLAW BRANDS, LTD.
>LODERS CROKLAAN B.V.
>LONG'S DRUGS
>LONGVIEW TRADING,INC
>LOUIS TRAUTH DAIRY INC.
>LUBAN INTERNATIONAL
>LUBRIZOL
>LUXOR HOTEL CASINO
>LYNN DAIRY INC. (LYNN PROTEIN) #55-1522
>LYONS-MAGNUS
>M & R DISTRIBUTION
>M. SLAVIN & SONS
>MAISON LAPIERRE INC.
>MAKKOS OF BROOKLYN LTD.
>MALEE SAMPRAN FACTORY PUBLIC CO., LTD.
>MALT DIASTASE CORPORATION
>MALT PROD. CORP./INTERN. MOLASSES
>MALT PRODUCTS CORP.
>MANDARIN SOY SAUCE
>MANE - CALIFORNIA BRANDS, INC.
>MANHATTAN CHOCOLATES INC.
>MARKET BASKET BRAND (DEMOULAS)
>MARKETING MANAGEMENT
>MARKON COOPERATIVE
>MARRIOTT INTERNATIONAL, INC.
>MARSH SUPERMARKETS
>MARUHA CORPORATION
>MARUZEN PHARMACEUTICALS CO., LTD.
>MASIHANA INC.
>MASILY S.A.
>MATOL BOTANICAL INTERNATIONAL, INC.
>MAURI BRASIL IND. COM. E. IMPORT LTDA.
>MAXIM
>MAZOR'S FRENCH DOUGH COMPANY
>MCCAFFREY'S
>MCCORMICK DISTILLING CO., INC.
>MCDONALD'S CORPORATION
>MCKEE FOODS CORPORATION
>MEADOW GOLD
>MEADOW GOLD DAIRIES
>MEADOW GOLD DAIRIES, INC. PLANT #08-04
>MEIJER, INC.
>MEIJI SEIKA KAISHA, LTD.
>MELROSE DAIRY PROTEINS LLC-PLANT #27-630
>MESADA INTERNATIONAL TRADING
>METRO & RICHELIEU INC.
>METRO RICHELIEU
>MEZONOS MAVEN BAKERY INC.
>MICHIGAN FARM CHEESE DAIRY
>MICRO POP USA
>MICROWAVE ROASTERS, INC.
>MID-ATLANTIC VEGETABLE & SHORTENING CO.
>MIDDLE EAST DELIGHTS-ARARAT BAKERY
>MIDDLEFIELD MIX, INC. #39-410
>MILLE LACS GOURMET FOODS (R)
>MILLER & CO.
>MILLER BREWING COMPANY
>MINOT INTERNATIONAL
>MIRSA INC.
>MISITANO & STRACUZZI S.P.A.
>MISTER SNACKS (DIV. OF SUNBIRD SNACKS)
>MITOKU CO. LTD.
>MITSUI & CO. (U.S.A.), INC.
>MITSUI & CO., USA INC.
>MLO PRODUCTS, CO.
>MODERN PRODUCTS, INC.
>MOLDA AG
>MONTENA TARANTO FOODS (PLANT#34-010413)
>MORNING GLORY DAIRY
>MORNINGSTAR FOODS
>MT. ARARAT BAKERY
>MUIRHEAD
>MULLINS WHEY INC.
>MUNCHICK'S FISH COMPANY, INC.
>MY BROTHER BOBBY'S SALSA, LLC
>MY GRANDMAS COFFEE CAKES
>MY MOST FAVORITE DESSERT COMPANY
>MYC INGREDIENTS, LTD.
>N.V. DE ZUIKER COMPAGNIE
>NABISCO
>NANA SYLVIA'S FOODS
>NASH FINCH CO.
>NATIONAL BRAND COFFEE AND PAPER DISTRIBUTING CORP.
>NATIONAL CHEESE CO.
>NATIONAL VINEGAR CO.
>NATURAL IMPORT COMPANY, INC.
>NATURAL OLEOCHEMICALS SDN BHD
>NATURAL ORGANICS
>NATURE SOY INC.
>NATUREX
>NAYLOR CANDIES, INC.
>NBTY, INC.
>ND LABS INC.
>NESTLE FOOD COMPANY
>NESTLE SINGAPORE PTE LTD
>NETWORK SERVICES COMPANY
>NEW FOODS INDUSTRY
>NEW MERIDIAN FOODS
>NEW YUNG WAH
>NEWLY WEDS FOODS, INC.
>NEWMAN'S OWN, INC.
>NGO CHEW HONG OILS & FATS(M) SDN.
>NIKKI'S COOKIES INC.
>NIPPON ZEON CO. LTD (MIZUSHIMA PLANT)
>NOGA DAIRY INC.
>NORAC INC
>NORTH AMERICAN ENTERPRISE
>NORTH AMERICAN TEA AND COFFEE
>NORTH COAST SEAFOODS
>NORTHAMPTON PEANUT COMPANY
>NORTHWEST PEA & BEAN COMPANY
>NUGGET DISTRIBUTORS
>NUTRIENTS INCORPORATED
>NY PASTA AUTHORITY
>NZMP MARLBOROUGH
>OAKHURST DAIRY
>OASIS FOOD COMPANY
>OBIPEKTIN AG
>OCEANSIDE KNISH FACTORY - PAPA'S KITCHEN
>OGEM-OFFICE GENERAL DES EAUX MINERALES
>OH! NUTS
>OLD COLONY BAKING CO.
>OMYA PERALTA GMBH
>ORANGE JUICE/FOOD TANK TRUCK WASH INC.
>ORDU SOYA SANAYI A.S.
>ORGANIC BY NATURE, INC.
>ORGANIC TECHNOLOGIES
>ORGANIC VALLEY/CROPP COOPERATIVE
>ORLEANS PACKAGING COMPANY
>OTSUKA CHEMICAL CO., LTD.
>OVERSEAL COLOR INC.
>P.E. KRAMME, INC.
>P.L.THOMAS & CO., INC.
>P.R.R.C. (PRICE RITE)
>P.T. CISADANE RAYA CHEMICALS
>P.T. PULAU SAMBU GUNTUNG
>P.T. RIAU SAKTI UNITED PLANTATIONS
>P.T. SAYAP MAS UTAMA
>P.T. WINGS SURYA
>PAC-MOORE PRODUCTS, INC.
>PACIDA INTERNATIONAL (USA) INC.
>PACIFIC ROYAL BASIC FOODS
>PACTIV CORPORATION
>PAK TECHNOLOGIES CUSTOM FOODS GROUP
>PALACE STATION HOTEL/CASINO
>PALM-OLEO SDN. BHD.
>PALMAMIDE SDN BHD
>PALMAZONE INC.
>PAN AMERICAN GRAIN
>PAN CENTURY EDIBLE OILS
>PAN-CENTURY OLEOCHEMICALS SDN. BHD.
>PANDA FOOD PRODUCTS, INC.
>PANHANDLE MILLING COMPANY
>PANINKRET CHEM. PHARM. VERTRIEBSGES MBH
>PAPE FOODS
>PARMALAT FOOD INC.
>PASKESZ CANDY COMPANY
>PATHMARK STORES INC.
>PEARL VALLEY CHEESE
>PEGASUS INC.
>PENNSYLVANIA DUTCH CANDIES
>PENWEST PHARMACEUTICAL
>PERFORMANCE FOOD GROUP
>PERRIER GROUP
>PETER CREMER (S) GMBH
>PETER PAUL PHILIPPINE CORPORATION
>PHILDESCO, INC.
>PHYTO SOURCE
>PINATI RESTAURANT
>PIONEER FLOUR MILLS
>PIZZA INN (NORCO)
>PIZZA NOSH
>PLANET KOSHER
>PLANTERS COTTON OIL MILL, INC.
>PLANTERS LIFE SAVERS COMPANY
>PLB SPORTS
>PLOCHMAN, INC.
>PLUMBRIDGE
>POCAHONTAS FOODS USA
>POKONOBE INDUSTRIES INC.
>POLAND'S BEST INC.
>POLAR FOODS, INC.
>POLAROME INTERNATIONAL, INC.
>POORE BROTHERS INC.
>POPOWICH MILLING
>POWER SNACKS
>PRAIRIE CITY BAKERY
>PREMIER FOODSERVICE DISTRIBUTORS, INC.
>PREMIER MALT PRODUCTS CORP.
>PREMIUM INGREDIENTS LTD.
>PREMIUM VEGETABLE OILS BHD.
>PRESCO FOOD SERVICES
>PRESIDENT'S CHOICE INTERNATIONAL
>PRESTIGE SALES INC.
>PRICE CHOPPER
>PRICECOSTCO (COSTCO)
>PRO TRANSPORT, INC.
>PROCESADORA CONTINENTAL DE ALIMENTOS S.A
>PRODUCERS DAIRY FOODS INC.
>PRODUCTOS METALEST S.L.
>PROGRESSIVE DONUTS/DUNK-N-SIP, INC.
>PROMIND AGRO-INDUSTRIAL, S.A.
>PROMISED LAND DAIRY
>PROTEIN UND OELWERK NEUSS GMBH & CO. KG
>PROTIENT INC.
>PROTIENT, INC.
>PT. JAKA SAKTIBUANA INTERNATIONAL
>PT. KAO INDONESIA CHEMICALS
>PT. OLEOCHEM & SOAP INDUSTRI
>PT. SUMI ASIH
>PT. WIHADIL CHEMICAL INDUSTRY
>PUBLIX SUPER MARKETS, INC.
>PUGLISI EGG FARM
>PULASKI PRODUCTS CO., INC.
>PYA MONARCH, INC.
>QINGDAO JIAONAN BRIGHT MOON SEAWEED INDUSTRIES CO. LTD
>QSP, INC.
>QUAKER SUGAR CO., INC.
>QUALITY BOTANICAL INGREDIENTS, INC.
>QUALITY INGREDIENTS CORPORATION
>QUANTUM HERBAL PRODUCTS, LTD.
>QUEST INTERNATIONAL
>QUEST INTERNATIONAL (SCOTLAND)
>QUEST INTERNATIONAL FLAVORS & FOOD ING.
>QUICK DRY FOODS USA INC.
>QUICK'S CANDY
>QUINN'S SPECIALTY PRODUCTS
>R D ENTERPRISES
>R. TORRE & COMPANY
>R.M. PALMER COMPANY
>RAINBOW FARMS
>RAISIO GROUP PLC, RAISIO BENECOL LTD.
>RAISIO STAEST US INC.
>RALPHS GROCERY CO.
>RAMAPO RIDGE
>RAMSEY SIAS, INC.
>RED ARROW PRODUCTS COMPANY LLC.
>RED STAR YEAST & PRODUCTS
>REGAL EXTRACT CO. INC. MILLFLOW SPICE CORP.
>RENAISSANCE FOODS LLC.
>RESTAURANT DEPOT
>RHODIA FOOD
>RHODIA FOOD INDAL
>RHODIA INC.
>RHODIA MEYPRO B.V.
>RICH FOOD
>RICHFOOD, INC.
>RIKEN VITAMIN CO., LTD.
>RIO MAR COUNTRY CLUB
>ROBINSON DAIRY
>ROCKVIEW FARMS
>ROHM AND HAAS COMPANY
>ROHTSTEIN CORP. SUGAR DIVISION
>RON BEN-ISRAEL CAKES, INC.
>ROSKAM BAKING CO.
>ROSS PRODUCTS DIV. ABBOTT LABORATORIES LTD.
>ROSS PRODUCTS DIVISION
>ROSS SWISS DAIRIES
>ROUNDY'S, INC.
>ROYAL BODYCARE, INC.
>ROYAL CANDY, INC.
>ROYAL FOOD PRODUCTS
>ROYAL PALM INC.
>RPF, INC. (ROYAL PALATE FOODS)
>RUPARI FOOD SERVICE
>RV INDUSTRIES, INC.
>RYAN FOODS COMPANY
>RYKOFF SEXTON INC.
>RYT-WAY INDUSTRIES, INC.
>S & S SOAP CO., INC.
>S.C. COMSOFT IMPEX S.R.L.
>S.I.PR.I.O.
>S.P.R.M. INVESTMENT LTD.
>S.T. JERRELL
>SAFEWAY INC.
>SAM WARD COMPANY, INC.
>SAMBA HANDELMAAATSCHAPPI
>SAN JIRUSHI
>SAN REMO FOOD IMPORTED LTD.
>SAN-J INTERNATIONAL, INC.
>SANDLER'S GIFT BASKETS
>SANTA CRISTINA
>SANTA FE INGREDIENTS
>SANTEE DAIRIES, INC.
>SAPUTO CHEESE
>SARA LEE BAKERY GROUP
>SARA LEE COFFEE & TEA
>SARANT INTERNATIONAL COMMODITIES
>SARATOGA FLOUR
>SATIN FINE FOODS, INC.
>SAVORY FOODS, INC.
>SCHILL+SEILACHER "STRUKTOL"
>SCHNUCK MARKETS, INC.
>SCHWEIZ. MILCH-GESELLSCHAFT AG
>SCOTT'S, INC.
>SEA BREEZE
>SEAPOINT FARMS
>SEMINOLE FOODS, INC.
>SENSIENT FLAVORS
>SENSIENT FLAVORS MEXICO, S.A.DE C.V.
>SENSUS C.V.
>SETTON INTERNATIONAL FOODS, INC.
>SETTON PISTACHIO OF TERRA BELLA, INC.
>SETTON'S FOODS
>SHADY MAPLE FARM LTD.
>SHAMIR FOODS INC.
>SHAMROCK FOODS CO.
>SHANDEX GROUP
>SHANDONG DEOSEN CORP., LTD.
>SHANGHAI FOURTH PHARMACEUTICAL LTD XU HANG PHARMACEUTICAL FACTORY
>SHARP MENTHOL INDIA LIMITED
>SHAW'S SUPERMARKETS, INC.
>SHAWS SUPERMARKETS
>SHEPPARD GRAIN
>SHERWOOD BRANDS LLC
>SHOPPERS DRUG MART INC.
>SHURFINE INTERNATIONAL, INC.
>SIDCO FOOD DIST. CO.
>SIDCO HEALTH
>SIEGEL EGG
>SIGNATURE FUNDRAISING INC.
>SILVA INTERNATIONAL, INC.
>SILVER CATERERS (SILVER HUNTINGTON ENTERPRISES LLC)
>SILVER SPRING GARDENS, INC.
>SKIDMORE SALES & DISTRIBUTING FOOD DEFOAMERS
>SKINNER'S SALTED NUTS, INC.
>SMITH BROTHERS FARMS
>SMITH'S FOOD & DRUG CENTERS, INC.
>SMITTY'S INC.
>SNAPPLE BEVERAGE GROUP
>SNAPPY POPCORN CO., IND.
>SNYDERS OF HANOVER
>SOBAYA
>SOBEY'S INC.
>SOBEYS - OSHAWA GROUP
>SOBEYS RETAIL BRAND
>SOBEYS, INC.
>SOCIETE FLANDRES PICARDIE LAIT
>SODA AROMATIC CO., LTD.
>SOGO PHARMACEUTICAL CO., LTD.
>SOLA BAKERY INC.
>SOLLER LLC
>SOMMER MAID
>SORIANA S.A. DE. C.V.
>SOUTHERN ACIDS (M) BERHAD
>SOUTHERN INDUSTRIAL SALES,INC.
>SOVEX FOODS, A DIVISION OF MCKEE FOODS CORP.
>SOY POWER, INC.
>SPARROW ENTERPRISES, LTD.
>SPARTAN CHEMICAL COMPANY INC.
>SPARTAN STORES, INC.
>SPECIALTY INDUSTRIAL PRODUCTS, INC.
>SPECTRUM COMMODITIES
>SPI POLYOLS, INC.
>STABILCHEM (M) SDN. BHD.
>STABILIMENTO FARMACEUTICO CAV.G.TESTA
>STAFF SUPERMARKETS, INC.
>STANDARD CANDY COMPANY
>STAR KAY WHITE INC.
>STAR MARKET
>STAR MARKET COMPANY
>START FRESH FOODS
>STATER BROS. MARKETS
>STATION CASINO
>STEINHAUSER POLSKA
>STENTORIAN INDUSTRIES CO., LTD.
>STEPAN COMPANY
>STOLT NIELSEN B.V.
>STONE MOUNTAIN SNACKS
>STOP & SHOP
>STOP & SHOP SUPERMARKET CO.
>STOW MILLS
>STRATHROY FOODS LIMITED
>STRETCH ISLAND FRUIT INC.
>STUCKEY'S CORPORATION
>SUBCO FOODS INC.
>SUN ACE KAKOH (MALAYSIA) SDN BHD
>SUN ACE KAKOH (PTE.) LTD.
>SUNCHEMICAL CO., LTD.
>SUNFRESH
>SUNFRESH, INC.
>SUNRISE CONFECTIONS
>SUNRISE INTERNATIONAL CO.
>SUNSET STATION
>SUNSHINE FRESH INC.
>SUPER C
>SUPER STORE INDUSTRIES
>SUPER VALUE, INC.
>SUPERBRAND DAIRY PRODUCTS INC.
>SUPERBRAND DAIRY PRODUCTS, INC.
>SUPERSTAR COCONUT PRODUCTS CO., INC.
>SUZANNE'S SPECIALTIES
>SWAN GARDENS
>SWEET EXPRESSION
>SWISS CHALET FINE FOODS, INC.
>SWISS DAIRY - SUIZA
>SWISS GOURMET
>SWISS VALLEY FARMS COMPANY
>SYCAMORE CREEK CO.
>SYLVIA WEINSTOCK CAKES
>SYSCO CORPORATION
>T & L CREATIVE SALADS INC.
>T. HASEGAWA CO., LTD. (JAPAN)
>T. HASEGAWA U.S.A., INC.
>TAIYO INTERNATIONAL INC.
>TAKASAGO FOOD PRODUCTS (FLAVORS)
>TANABE SEIYAKU CO., LTD (JAPAN)
>TANTOS FOODS INTERNATIONAL
>TARGET FLAVORS, INC.
>TASTY BAKING COMPANY
>TATA TEA, INC.
>TAYLOR FARMS
>TEE LEE POPCORN, INC.
>TEMPLE ISRAEL BROTHERHOOD
>TERRAPEZ S.A.
>TEXAS HOTEL
>THE AMERICAN SUGAR REFINING COMPANY
>THE DRESCHER CORPORATION
>THE ELI'S CHEESECAKE COMPANY
>THE FOOD SOURCE, INC.
>THE GOLUB CORPORATION
>THE GRAND UNION CO.
>THE GREAT A&P TEA COMPANY
>THE GREAT ATLANTIC AND PACIFIC CO.
>THE HEALTHY GOURMET
>THE KROGER COMPANY
>THE MASTERSON CO.
>THE MONTEREY CANNING CO.
>THE OSHAWA GROUP LTD./LE GROUPE OSHAWA LTEE
>THE STOP & SHOP SUPERMARKET COMPANY
>THE WARRELL CORPORATION
>THE WESTIN RIOMAR BEACH
>THE WISCONSIN CHEESEMAN, INC.
>THIRS-TEA CORPORATION
>THREE VEE CORPORATION
>TIANJIN FREEWORLD INDUSTRY COMPANY LMT
>TICOFRUT, S. A.
>TINUK, INC.
>TIP TOP CANNING
>TOM'S FOODS, INC.
>TOPCO ASSOCIATES, INC.
>TOPCO-RANDALLS FOOD MARKETS, INC.
>TOPS MARKETS, INC
>TORTILLERIA LA MEXICANA, INC.
>TOUFAYAN BAKERY INC.
>TOUFAYAN'S BAKERY
>TOUL SOCIEDADE PORTUGUESA DE DESIDRATACA
>TOYO GOSEI CO., LTD.
>TRADE-MARK COFFEE CORPORATION
>TRADER JOE
>TRADER JOE'S
>TRADER JOE'S EAST,INC.
>TRANSFORMACIONES AGRICOLAS DE BADAJOZ SA
>TREE OF LIFE, INC.
>TREFIN NV
>TRICO TECHNOLOGIES, INC.
>TRINIDAD BENHAM CORP.
>TRIPLE-C-INC
>TRITON SUPPLY CORP.
>TROPHY NUT CO.
>TROPICAL NUT & FRUIT INC.
>TROPICANA PRODUCTS, INC.
>TROPICS FROZEN COCKTAILS
>TUSCAN
>TWIN COUNTY GROCERS, INC.
>TWO TRIBES, LLC
>U.S. CHOCOLATE CORP.
>U.S. FLAVORS & FRAGRANCES, INC
>U.S. FOODSERVICE
>U.S. MILLS, INC.
>UBE INDUSTRIES, LTD.
>ULTRA TRADING INTERNATIONAL LTD.
>UNICO FOODS INC.
>UNICO, INC.
>UNILEVER
>UNIPRO FOODSERVICE
>UNIPRO FOODSERVICE, INC.
>UNIPRO FOODSERVICE-NIFDA
>UNIQEMA
>UNIQEMA, DIVISION OF UNICHEMA CHEMIE GMBH
>UNIQUELY TOGETHER, INC.
>UNITED WHOLESALE GROCERY CO.
>UNIVERSAL APEX INC.
>UPCOUNTRY, INC.
>UPSCALE FOODS INC.
>US FOODSERVICE, RYKOFF, AND SEXTON
>UTC
>V.B.S. PURVEYORS OF FINE FOODS
>VALENCIA FOODS, INC.
>VALUE AMERICA
>VAN HOUTON
>VAN HOUTTE INC.
>VARDA CHOCOLATIER
>VELDA FARMS, LLC
>VENTURA FOODS, LLC
>VIC'S GOURMET POPCORN
>VINTAGE SOUTH INC.
>VIRGINIA DARE EXTRACT CO., INC.
>VITABLEND BV
>VITAL & ZOON N.V.
>VITAMINS, INC.
>VITAMOR KFT.
>VITARROZ
>VITASOY (U.S.A.) INC.
>VITASOY USA, INC.
>VOGEL POPCORN
>VONS
>VVF LIMITED
>W. SCHUMACHER & CO. GMBH
>W.A. CLEARY PRODUCTS, INC.
>WAKEFERN FOOD CORPORATION
>WAKEFERN/SHOPRITE
>WAKUNAGA OF AMERICA CO., LTD.
>WAL-COR CORSANINI DI CARLO SANTINI & C.
>WAL-MART STORES INC.
>WALGREENS CO.
>WALNETTOS, INCORPORATED, DIST.
>WALTER RAU NEUSSER 01 UND FETT AG
>WANJASHAN MANDARIN SAUCE, INC.
>WARDS ICE CREAM CO. INC.
>WARRANWOOD WINERY
>WASABROD
>WASABROD AB
>WATSON SYSCO
>WATSONVILLE FOODS PRODUCT COMPANY
>WATTA MUNCH
>WEBSTER INDUSTRIES, INC.
>WEGMAN'S INC.
>WEIS MARKETS, INC.
>WEISS KOSHER BAKERY
>WEMMERS TANKTRANSPORT BV
>WENDY'S INTERNATIONAL, INC.
>WEST LYNN CREAMERY
>WESTBY CO-OP CREAMERY
>WESTERN COMMERCE CORPORATION
>WESTERN FAMILY FOODS, INC.
>WHITE ROSE FOODS
>WHITE STOKES
>WHITE STOKES CO.,
>WHITEHALL COMMODITY CORP.
>WHITTAKER, CLARK & DANIELS, INC.
>WHOLE FOODS
>WHOLE FOODS MARKET
>WHOLE HERB COMPANY
>WILCOX FARMS LLC
>WILD OATS MARKETS, INC
>WILD WEST PRODUCTS
>WILDWOOD NATURAL FOODS, INC.
>WILLMARK SALES CO.
>WILTON INDUSTRIES
>WINN DIXIE
>WINN DIXIE - PLANT #12-500
>WOLF & LAMB DELICATESSEN
>WOODSTOCK FARMS
>WORLD FINER FOODS, INC.
>WORLD OF CHANTILLY
>WORLD SPICE INC.
>WRITT SALES & SUPPLY D.B.A. NUTRITIONAL FOCUS
>WYTHE-WILL DIST. CO.
>YANCHENG HENDING NATIVE PRODUCTS CO. LTD
>YOHAY BAKING COMPANY
>YONEYAMA YAKUHIN KOGYO CO., LTD.
>YOST FOODS, INC.
>ZALOOM MARKETING CORP.
>ZANDER'S CREAMERY, INC.
>ZANDER'S CREAMERY, INC. #55-309
>ZELLERS INC.
>ZEON CHEMICALS YONEZAWA COMPANY, LTD.
>ZHEJIANG HAITONG FOOD GROUP CO., LTD.
>ZHEJIANG NHU COMPANY, LTD.
>ZHEJIANG SILVER RIVER FOODS CO., LTD.
>ZION NATURAL GOURMET FOOD
>ZOGLO'S
>ZOMICK'S BAKERY

>> >"Joe Bruno"  wrote in message
>> >news:t4od82pp9aosfg98b6u8r1ait9r0vbfd93@4ax.com...
>> >> George Firestone just does not like to read bad news affecting his fellow
>> >> ZHIDS!!

>> >> Heinz DID NOT reinstate the kosher tax in Canada, as George and his kosher
>> >> tax extortionists wished.
>> >> Heinz basicly told the COR gangsters they were just an unnecessary expense
>> >> on the buying public.

>> >> On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:57:36 -0500, "George" 
>> >> wrote:

>> >>>> Now, when you buy HEINZ and LIBBY goods, you are no
>> >>>> longer lining the pocketrs of the COR Jew parasites,
>> >>>> like the so-called kosher food inspector in Calgary,
>> >>>> Toronto and wherever they hide under the rocks....
>> >>>> Now, these leeches will have to try and find some work to do,
>> >>>> such as janitorial, road sweeping or whatever they may be
>> >>>> qualified to do...

>> >>>Compare the pervert who posted the lines above with reality from Heinz.
>> >>>Now you can see what a ranting nutcase he really is.

>> >>>      Heinz Canada trims kosher product line
>> >>>      By JENNIFER M. PAQUETTE
>> >>>      Special to The CJN
>> >>>      Kosher shoppers were shocked recently to discover that Heinz Canada
>> >>>     has removed kosher certification from all but a handful of its products.
>> >>>      According to company spokesperson Anna Relyea, the move stemmed from  a
>> >>>     desire to "keep costs down while continuing to provide kosher products to
>> >>>     our customers."

>> >>>      COR officials say consumer response indicates the decision may have
>> >>>     been a mistake, one which they say Heinz may reverse in the foreseeable
>> >>>     future.
>> >>>      Only a few Heinz products remain under supervision, including ketchup,
>> >>>     infant cereal and tomato juice.
>> >>>      Items that are no longer kosher include staples such as tomato sauces
>> >>>      and paste, vinegar and mustard.
>> >>>      Heinz jarred baby foods are also no longer kosher, and Heinz - as the
>> >>>      federal Competition Bureau noted three years ago when it investigated the
>> >>>      company for anti-competitive practices in the sector - is the sole supplier
>> >>>      of jarred baby food in Canada.
>> >>>      As a result, many parents will be forced to buy more expensive
>> >>>      imported kosher baby foods, such as Beech-Nut. (Heinz "Pablum" dry baby
>> >>        foods remain kosher.)

>> >>>      The decertification decision follows a deal last year between Heinz
>> >>>      Canada's parent company in the United States and Del Monte that saw Del
>> >>>      Monte acquire a number of leading Heinz brands, including Starkist tuna.
>> >>>      But "the Del Monte deal has nothing to do with this decision," Relyea said.

>> >>>      "This was done after a lot of careful consideration," she said. "Only
>> >>>      when there were no other options available did we decide to remove the
>> >>>      designations."

>> >>>      In the 1920s, Heinz products in the United States were the first to
>> >>>      carry national kosher certification under the "OU" hechsher, which still
>> >>>      certifies many American-made Heinz products.

>> >>>      Heinz Canada has also discontinued supervision on all domestic beans,
>> >>>      including those formerly manufactured under the Libby's label. Libby's was
>> >>>      acquired by Heinz Canada in 1996, and at that time, the changeover did not
>> >>>      compromise the longstanding certification of products, including the
>> >>>      vegetarian Deep Browned Beans variety.
>> >>>      Products were cut from the kosher line based on a variety of factors,
>> >>>      Relyea said, including "how complex the manufacturing is, what the savings
>> >>>      were and so on."

>> >>>      The size of a product category was also a major factor, she said. "For
>> >>>      example, in the case of ketchup, [the category] is huge, so maintaining
>> >>>      kosher made sense."
>> >>>      Ending the certification on beans was more of a logistics issue, given
>> >>>      the complexity of producing a product with pork and a kosher vegetarian
>> >>>      product at the same time.

>> >>>      Rabbi Mordechai Levin, COR's executive director, said there are
>> >>>      "definite problems there. They're making kosher and non-kosher products on
>> >>>      the same equipment."
>> >>>      Based in Toronto, Heinz Canada is one of 40 worldwide subsidiaries of
>> >>>      its U.S. parent. It employs 2,000 full-time salaried and hourly employees
>> >>>      and more than 500 seasonal staff.
>> >>>      Relyea called the Canadian marketplace a "very competitive retail
>> >>>      trade environment," one that keeps the company "under continual pressure to
>> >>       >keep costs down to remain competitive."

>> >>>      However, she was unable to substantiate company claims that the move
>> >>>      will save money.
>> >>>      In 1991, a Heinz spokesperson, quoted in an Anti-Defamation League
>> >>>      document arguing against claims that kosher supervision "taxes" non-Jewish
>> >>>      consumers, said the per item cost [of supervision] is "so small we can't
>> >>>      even calculate it," and that kosher labelling actually makes products less
>> >>>      costly by increasing the market for them.
>> >>>      Relyea says the de-listing hasn't affected any Heinz products in the
>> >>>      United States.
>> >>>      "I want to reassure people that [for] the products that are currently
>> >>>      kosher American products, this decision doesn't affect them at all
>> >>>      there's a whole range of beans available that remain kosher in the U.S., because
>> >>>     it's a much larger market."
>> >>>      Regarding consumer feedback, Relyea said, "we've done as much as we
>> >>>      can to retain the kosher designation where possible." She downplayed the
>> >>>     change, saying "it's a small percentage [of products] that were
>> >>>     de-koshered.'"
>> >>>      Rabbi Levin said Heinz simply "didn't do their homework very well.
>> >>>      Consumers are complaining that there are no baked beans, or that other
>> >>>      products that they're accustomed to using aren't available any more."
>> >>>      The move has caused confusion in the Jewish community, he said, and
>> >>>      rumours have been circulating that the products are still under COR
>> >>>      certification, but packaged without the kosher symbol.
>> >>>      Rabbi Levin said there is no truth to the rumour. "We don't endorse
>> >>>     anything without the COR on the label, especially something that
>> >>>     only products bearing the COR label are acceptable."
>> >>>      He said he is optimistic some Canadian Heinz products may become
>> >>>      kosher again soon.
>> >>>      "We've asked Heinz to revisit [the decision]," he said.
>> >>>      Relyea said she is unaware of efforts that might have been made to
>> >>>      find alternatives to de-certifying and wouldn't comment on possible future
>> >>>      changes.
>> >>>      Meanwhile, COR is asking consumers to continue contacting Heinz to
>> >>>      express their concerns.
>> >>>      "Hopefully," said Rabbi Levin, "we can get some of the products back
>> >>>      on line."

>> >>>> Notice that parasite Ken McVay AGREES WITH THE TRUTH OF THE
>> >>>> ARTICLES. That is why his Jew masters have him do ad
>> >>>> hominem attacks instead, to try and divert attention!!


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Not even the Canadian CRTC can force a US website to close!!
Canada is not yet a part of the USA, and stupid Canadian court orders do not
have any effect in the USA, where FREEDOM OF SPEECH is protected by the
Constitution.

In the meantime, the US-based website for  the former Reinhard Mueller
continues in operation, even though a flunky Canuck judge had ordered it to be
closed.

On 25 Aug 2006 03:27:45 -0700, "Toto the Dog"  wrote:

>CRTC Refuses To Issue Immediate Ban On This Website
>Google Bans Name "Dossier Noir"; "Dosier Noir" Opens

>8/23/2006 5:36:18 PM
>Discuss this story in the forum
>LSN Staff

>Ottawa, Canada -- The Canadian Radio-Television and Telecommunications
>Council today refused to grant Jewish Canadian attorney Richard Warman
>an immediate ban on this website and its IP, as Google banned any
>blogger user from using the name "Dossier Noir", causing Bill White to
>set up a new Google blog account "Dosier Noir".

>"They act like no one has tried to take me off the internet before,"
>White, a real estate investor who previously owned an internet
>consulting business told the press, "There is nothing they can do,
>technically, that I cannot circumvent, if I decide its worth the time
>and money to do so."

>White told the Canadian Press today that he felt the Canadian
>government was making his point: That peaceful political change in
>Canada is no longer possible, and that it is time for Canadians to take
>up arms. When asked about how Jews in the country perceive him as evil,
>White said:

>"Good always looks evil to evil."

>White said his comments about Canada and the need for a change in the
>Canadian government were no different than similar comments US and
>Canadian Jews have made about the need for "regime change" in Iraq or
>North Korea:

>"If we can go to war to establish democracy in Iraq, a country
>thousands of miles away, then we can certainly go to war to
>re-establish democracy on our Northern border."

>White has been battling the Canadian government for years, insulting
>its Jewish leaders and harassing its intelligence and military
>officials. In 2003, Bernie Farber attempted to shut down this website
>after White published a poem entitled "slaughter of Zion". 

>In 2004, the Canadian Security and Intelligence Service attempted to come after
>White after White got the private cell phone number of its Director and
>began calling him in the evening to ask why he was harassing Ernst
>Zundel. Earlier this year, Canadian newspapers, all of which are owned
>by the Jews David and Leonard Asper, attacked White for supporting
>white nationalist Alex Linder and imprisoned Canadian dissident Tom
>Winnicki.

>"When men can no longer peacefuly express their dissent with their
>government," White says, "They have no choice but to resort to
>non-peaceful means.

>"I mean, what does Warman think? That we're just going to let him
>imprison and harass and victimize people while we stand by and smile?
>Let him meet his just fate -- execution at the hands of a people's
>government."

>White contends that Jews have taken over the Canadian media -- directly
>owning almost all of it -- and use that, combined with their
>international political influence, to control the Canadian government
>and use it to exploit, rob and murder Canada's white population.

>Emailed to you by:

>Libertarian Socialist News
>ATTN: Bill White, Editor

>Post Office Box 8631
>Roanoke, VA 24014

>http://www.overthrow.com
>dhyphen@yahoo.com



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Not even the Canadian CRTC can force a US website to close!!
Canada is not yet a part of the USA, and stupid Canadian court orders do not
have any effect in the USA, where FREEDOM OF SPEECH is protected by the
Constitution.

In the meantime, the US-based website for  the former Reinhard Mueller
continues in operation, even though a flunky Canuck judge had ordered it to be
closed.

On 25 Aug 2006 03:27:45 -0700, "Toto the Dog"  wrote:

>CRTC Refuses To Issue Immediate Ban On This Website
>Google Bans Name "Dossier Noir"; "Dosier Noir" Opens

>8/23/2006 5:36:18 PM
>Discuss this story in the forum
>LSN Staff

>Ottawa, Canada -- The Canadian Radio-Television and Telecommunications
>Council today refused to grant Jewish Canadian attorney Richard Warman
>an immediate ban on this website and its IP, as Google banned any
>blogger user from using the name "Dossier Noir", causing Bill White to
>set up a new Google blog account "Dosier Noir".

>"They act like no one has tried to take me off the internet before,"
>White, a real estate investor who previously owned an internet
>consulting business told the press, "There is nothing they can do,
>technically, that I cannot circumvent, if I decide its worth the time
>and money to do so."

>White told the Canadian Press today that he felt the Canadian
>government was making his point: That peaceful political change in
>Canada is no longer possible, and that it is time for Canadians to take
>up arms. When asked about how Jews in the country perceive him as evil,
>White said:

>"Good always looks evil to evil."

>White said his comments about Canada and the need for a change in the
>Canadian government were no different than similar comments US and
>Canadian Jews have made about the need for "regime change" in Iraq or
>North Korea:

>"If we can go to war to establish democracy in Iraq, a country
>thousands of miles away, then we can certainly go to war to
>re-establish democracy on our Northern border."

>White has been battling the Canadian government for years, insulting
>its Jewish leaders and harassing its intelligence and military
>officials. In 2003, Bernie Farber attempted to shut down this website
>after White published a poem entitled "slaughter of Zion". 

>In 2004, the Canadian Security and Intelligence Service attempted to come after
>White after White got the private cell phone number of its Director and
>began calling him in the evening to ask why he was harassing Ernst
>Zundel. Earlier this year, Canadian newspapers, all of which are owned
>by the Jews David and Leonard Asper, attacked White for supporting
>white nationalist Alex Linder and imprisoned Canadian dissident Tom
>Winnicki.

>"When men can no longer peacefuly express their dissent with their
>government," White says, "They have no choice but to resort to
>non-peaceful means.

>"I mean, what does Warman think? That we're just going to let him
>imprison and harass and victimize people while we stand by and smile?
>Let him meet his just fate -- execution at the hands of a people's
>government."

>White contends that Jews have taken over the Canadian media -- directly
>owning almost all of it -- and use that, combined with their
>international political influence, to control the Canadian government
>and use it to exploit, rob and murder Canada's white population.

Emailed to you by:

Libertarian Socialist News
ATTN: Bill White, Editor

Post Office Box 8631
Roanoke, VA 24014

http://www.overthrow.com
dhyphen@yahoo.com



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On 12 Sep 2006 13:10:01 -0700, "TopPoster"  wrote:

>
>Mickey Boyd wrote:
>
>> Now, nearly 3 years after he was found to be a real criminal, the
>> Crown Prosecutor is staying all the criminal charges, so that this
>> crooked cop gets off!!
>
>That's because he's NOT GUILTY.

Not true.
he had no trial, so how can you say he is innocent, of all the charges??!!



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On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 03:44:46 GMT, John Fleming  wrote:

>On 12 Sep 2006 13:10:01 -0700, while chained to a desk in the
>scriptorium, "TopPoster"  wrote:
>> $Mickey Boyd wrote:
>> $
>> $> Now, nearly 3 years after he was found to be a real criminal, the
>> $> Crown Prosecutor is staying all the criminal charges, so that this
>> $> crooked cop gets off!!
>> $
>> $That's because he's NOT GUILTY.

>Note the inconsistency in Mickey Boyd's statment.  If he was "found to
>be a real criminal", there was a conviction on at least one charge, and
>it's a bit hard to stay a charge after the process has gone through the
>courts and a judge has handed down a verdict.

Charges can be stayed, even while the case is in the courts, which happens
somewhat frequently in Canada.

But the fact that the Crown chose to stay all these nefarious charges, after 3
years, just bgecause it was a crooked cop, smells to high heaven!!


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On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 02:08:34 +0200, Tom Peel 
wrote:

>What has this got to do with rec.travel.europe.

Intended to discourage tourists from Europe, from visiting Edmonton because of
all the crooked cops?



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On Fri, 26 May 2006 19:52:23 GMT, "TJ"  wrote:

>get a grip will you...over 100 bodies...ya right...show me the stats on that 
>1...just because they are missing that doesn't prove they are dead, they 
>lead a dangerous life sytle and move all over the place. If anything we need 
>better looking hookers instead of the skank we have walking the streets.

It is the media who have tabulated more than 100 bodies of sex trade workers
in the past few years.

>suuurrreeeeeee....we are all wondering if it's a cop, what BS....

>and how do you know it's "1" killer or a cop for that matter...maybe more 
>than 1....your watching to much tv my friend.....

Perhaps, but surely you are not denying the fact, that a crooked cop would
easily know how to cover his trail, so his brother cops would not bother to
investigate? Particularly the cops hired and promoted over the past 20 years!

>better get your facts straight....as for Boyd, he has done a bang up job 
>since he has been here. Our police service is so screwed up it was a wonder 
>Boyd or anyone would take the job. But he did get them to up the salary to 
>$250 grand a year to take the job, nice cheque every 2 weeks eh.......


You failed to answer the question in the header - why was he constantly
REFUSED THE TOP JOB IN TORONTO?
Was it something to do with his wife also being on the public trough there?

>there's nothing to wonder, he's doing a great job and has the respect of the 
>people in this city and from the members of the EPS...it's the members of 
>the EPS I would wonder about.

Who says he has the respect of the public here, apart from you?

>they all seem taser happy these days....
 Including the kids of the former chief, don't forget...

>"Asterix"  wrote in message 
>news:6ojc72t48htptgc2kogrektlb7qbask92s@4ax.com...
>> Why Cop Mike Boyd , who was Deputy Chief for ages, Refused as Chief of
>> Police Toronto?
>>
>> If you have inside info on this, kindly post, so we all can know.
>>
>> Now that he is chief cop in Edmonton, people there are starting to
>> wonder also.
>>
>> Since he left Toronto, all of a sudden there is anti-gang arrests in
>> volume. Why so little real anti-criminal work while Boyd was in
>> Toronto?
>>
>> In Edmonton, the serial killer continues his depredations against sex
>> trade workers, with the total now well over 100 bodies!!
>>
>> But no arrests by the Edmonton cops, which has people wondering
>> whether the killer is one of the cops? 
>



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Why Cop Mike Boyd , who was Deputy Chief for ages, Refused as Chief of Police
Toronto?

If you have inside info on this, kindly post, so we all can know.

Now that he is chief cop in Edmonton, people there are starting to wonder
also.

Since he left Toronto, all of a sudden there is anti-gang arrests in volume.
Why so little real anti-criminal work while Boyd was in Toronto?

In Edmonton, the serial killer continues his depredations against sex trade
workers, with the total now well over 100 bodies!!

But no arrests by the Edmonton cops, which has people wondering whether the
killer is one of the cops?


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Not even the Canadian CRTC can force a US website to close!!
Canada is not yet a part of the USA, and stupid Canadian court orders do not
have any effect in the USA, where FREEDOM OF SPEECH is protected by the
Constitution.

In the meantime, the US-based website for  the former Reinhard Mueller
continues in operation, even though a flunky Canuck judge had ordered it to be
closed.

On 25 Aug 2006 03:27:45 -0700, "Toto the Dog"  wrote:

>CRTC Refuses To Issue Immediate Ban On This Website
>Google Bans Name "Dossier Noir"; "Dosier Noir" Opens

>8/23/2006 5:36:18 PM
>Discuss this story in the forum
>LSN Staff

>Ottawa, Canada -- The Canadian Radio-Television and Telecommunications
>Council today refused to grant Jewish Canadian attorney Richard Warman
>an immediate ban on this website and its IP, as Google banned any
>blogger user from using the name "Dossier Noir", causing Bill White to
>set up a new Google blog account "Dosier Noir".

>"They act like no one has tried to take me off the internet before,"
>White, a real estate investor who previously owned an internet
>consulting business told the press, "There is nothing they can do,
>technically, that I cannot circumvent, if I decide its worth the time
>and money to do so."

>White told the Canadian Press today that he felt the Canadian
>government was making his point: That peaceful political change in
>Canada is no longer possible, and that it is time for Canadians to take
>up arms. When asked about how Jews in the country perceive him as evil,
>White said:

>"Good always looks evil to evil."

>White said his comments about Canada and the need for a change in the
>Canadian government were no different than similar comments US and
>Canadian Jews have made about the need for "regime change" in Iraq or
>North Korea:

>"If we can go to war to establish democracy in Iraq, a country
>thousands of miles away, then we can certainly go to war to
>re-establish democracy on our Northern border."

>White has been battling the Canadian government for years, insulting
>its Jewish leaders and harassing its intelligence and military
>officials. In 2003, Bernie Farber attempted to shut down this website
>after White published a poem entitled "slaughter of Zion". 

>In 2004, the Canadian Security and Intelligence Service attempted to come after
>White after White got the private cell phone number of its Director and
>began calling him in the evening to ask why he was harassing Ernst
>Zundel. Earlier this year, Canadian newspapers, all of which are owned
>by the Jews David and Leonard Asper, attacked White for supporting
>white nationalist Alex Linder and imprisoned Canadian dissident Tom
>Winnicki.

>"When men can no longer peacefuly express their dissent with their
>government," White says, "They have no choice but to resort to
>non-peaceful means.

>"I mean, what does Warman think? That we're just going to let him
>imprison and harass and victimize people while we stand by and smile?
>Let him meet his just fate -- execution at the hands of a people's
>government."

>White contends that Jews have taken over the Canadian media -- directly
>owning almost all of it -- and use that, combined with their
>international political influence, to control the Canadian government
>and use it to exploit, rob and murder Canada's white population.

Emailed to you by:

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Deadmonton DOES NOT have a population of over 900,000!!
The city population is just over 500,000!!

The city is using the fictitious figure, to minimise the murder rate in town!!

Don't forget, that the last 4 cop chiefs have all been canned in disgrace!
Plus, the crooked cops still have not charged the serial killer of over 100
women, which is making many think that perhaps it is 
one of the rogue cops doing all the extra murders!!

In fact the new chief this year is from Toronto. He was repeatedly REFUSED the
position of chief there. Mind you, as soon as he leaves Toronto, Bill Blair
the new chief, goes out and arrests 78 gang members!!

Wonder why Mike Code did nothing about this while he was there as deputy
chief?

Apart from all the convictions against city cops for torture, with more cops
constantly being charged, and killing innocent victims like last week!!

On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 22:27:54 GMT, "Chom Noamsky"  wrote:

>Edmonton records 37 homicides in 2005 while Toronto records 78.  Considering 
>the relative populations (est. 2004) of these two cities, the per 100,000 
>homicide rate works out to:

>  Edmonton - ( 37 / 947,311 ) * 10^5 = 3.9
>  Toronto - ( 78 / 2,518,772 ) * 10^5 = 3.1

>Oh what a shocker!  You're 25% more likely to become a victim of homicide in 
>Edmonton than Toronto.  What makes me laugh is the Alberta crackpot who 
>claims crime and homicide is somehow special to "Cherrana" and that the 
>problem is mysteriously attributable to "socialism."




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On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 10:33:58 GMT, "Sharx35"  wrote:
Evidence of crooked city tax assessors will again be proven at ARB Hearing,
Monday 18 September.

No wonder Mel Forseth, Nick Gords, Mike Chibuk, and Frank Oesterreicher do not
want the public reminded, that for 8 years they allowed a lawyer's house to be
DELIBERATELY UNDER-ASSESSED BY HALF A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR, 
FOR 8 YEARS!!

One must wonder, who is on the take, to allow such irregularity for so long?

>Chief Instigator wrote:
>> Next installment and exposure of city tax department irregularities
>> was in  OPEN COURT, at the MGB Hearing,  March 27.

>> Again, was exposed for all to see, the evidence proving the City
>> allowed the lawyer to be underassessed  for his property at 13723 -
>> 93 St., by HALF A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR, for 8 years.

>Is that commercially zoned property, occupied by a residence?

It is a 2 story building, zoned DC5, with lawyer offices on main floor, and
rental apartments on upper floor.

HALF A MILLION DOLLARS each year - for 8 years!
His own papers filed declared the value to be $600,000, while his
friends in the city only assessed for $149,500!!

>> In retaliation, the city assessors incresed the assessment of the man
>> who exposed their graft by 4 TIMES THAT OF HIS NEIGHBOURS!!


>> Yes, the city website is operational in May and June, which allowed
>> some of us the opportunity to get the PROOF, which will be used in
>> the MGB city tax appeals, to PROVE GROSS OR CRIMINAL IRREGULARITIES
>> by the city tax staffers!

>> One must wonder, for whom is Merle Foresth working, since he seems to
>> not care about massive irregularities!!

>> It is now time, to not only FIRE those city employees involved in
>> this massive under-assessment for one of their buddies, but they
>> should also be PROSECUTED for their involvement in this massive FRAUD
>> on the city taxpayers!!

>> How many other friends of city tax department staff are also, still,
>> getting massive under-assessments, worth tens of thousands of dollars
>> per crook, apart from the well-known city lawyer exposed?

>> Time to clean house at city hall, and not just leave it up to
>> Grosvenor to take these crooks to court!!


>> From: arielv2@37.com the filthy crook, wanting everyone to know about
>> how corrupt is the cesspool called Deadmonton, wrote:
>> Newsgroups: edm.general,edm.politics
>> Subject: Re: APPEAL YOUR TAXES!!GRAFT,CORRUPTION in City Tax
>> Appeal-Lawyer Finally Got Taxes Quadrupled!! WHY BE JEWED?
>> Date: 1 Aug 2005 13:21:10 -0700

>> Why do you call our beuatiful city "deadmonton", ?
>> if you don't like it here why are you doing here? why don't you go
>> back to the rat hole you came from (england or whatever hellhole you're
>> from). stop polluting our charming city with your stinking existance. a
>> bullet thru your old and rotten head will be a great solution to your not
>> liking our city. drop dead you fucking nazi!


>> On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 09:12:18 -0600, George
>>  wrote:

>>> If your city tax assessment has increased more than the 2.4%
>>> inflation certified by StatsCan, then perhaps you also are a victim
>>> of the crooks running Deadmonton?!!

>>> If you feel you are being overcharged, then do what you are entitled
>>> to do - FILE AN APPEAL!!

>>> The odds are in your favour, since more than 80% of appeals against
>>> the City, win!!

>>> Checking the website for this year's assessments, it seems that the
>>> city of Edmonton finally obeyed the ARB,regarding the dramatically
>>> UNDERASSESSED property owned by a city liar/lawyer!.
>>> The value now is $651,000, up from the ridiculous $149,500!!!

>>> If not CORRUPTION, then at least favouritism, when property
>>> UNDER-ASSESSED BY HALF MILLION DOLLARS!!

>>> Rumour has it that the city tax assessor responsible, is no longer
>>> employed by the city??
>>> Why should a private citizen have to take the City to Court, just to
>>> force the city to do a proper job, for which some slimeball is
>>> getting overpaid?


>>> From: heinrichhimmelfarb@xmail.net (HeinrichHimmelfarb)
>>> Newsgroups:
>>> edm.general,edm.politics,ab.general,ab.politics,can.general Subject:
>>> Re: Graft,Corruption Claimed in City Tax Appeal!! LAWYER TO GET
>>> TAXES QUADRUPLED!!
>>> Date: 2 Oct 2004 08:46:23 -0700

>>> It seems that even a lawyer will finally get his comeuppance.
>>> The ARB on Monday ordered the city tax assessment department to
>>> finally correct the improper assessment and bring the value up to
>>> what it should be.

>>> This means that in one year, the assessment had to jump from the
>>> massive under-assessment of $149,500 to at least $600,000 and
>>> probably $608,000!!!

>>> Even a damned lawyer can finally get what he deserves,when someone
>>> has the guts to force the issue into a court.

>>> How many other massive UNDER-ASSESSMENTS, FOR FRIENDS OF THE CITY
>>> MANAGERS ARE OUT THERE?


>>> heinrichhimmelfarb@xmail.net (HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote in message
>>> news:<8e4c980f.0409260720.3cd39d0f@posting.google.com>...
>>>> Regarding the article below,the City is now declining to appear
>>>> before the ARB, tomorrow at 3:30 in the afternoon!!

>>>> It seems that they do not want to name the city tax assessor
>>>> responsible for the more than $200,00 REDUCTION in the property tax
>>>> assessment of the city liar/lawyer!!

>>>> In their documents sent to the complainant, the City DOES CONFIRM
>>>> THE CORRECT VALUE AT MORE THAN $608,000!!

>>>> The tax appeal Court/ARB will be asked whether this constitutes
>>>> CORRUPTION, or/and CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE!!!

>>>> Sharx, and others annoyed with city mismanagement, care to comment?


>>>> heinrichhimmelfarb@xmail.net (HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote in message
>>>> news:<8e4c980f.0408050922.417b9108@posting.google.com>...
>>>>> City have in fact confirmed,and helped correct previous assessment
>>>>> value.
>>>>> It was actually $149,500, while the owners declared value,in
>>>>> writing, was $600,000!!

>>>>> No explanation from the cretins in the Tax Assessment section as to
>>>>> why they gave their buddy such a massive UNDER-ASSESSMENT!!
>>>>> This while they gouge small homeowners and apartment owners with
>>>>> massive tax hikes!!

>>>>> No wonder the number of appeals this year is allegedly double.
>>>>> Perhaps the citizens are finally getting mad enough for a tax
>>>>> revolt.

>>>>>> Apparently THIS scandal is but the tip of the iceberg, regarding
>>>>>> irregularities involving the city tax department.

>>>>>> Another case,coming up in court next week, relates to an
>>>>>> out-of-court settlement the city had to make un connection with the illegal
>>>>>> closure of the southbound access road for Calgary Trail at Ellerslie Road.
>>>>>> One of the property owners, incensed at his astronomical tax
>>>>>> assessment hike this year, is presenting to the tax appeal court, the evidence
>>>>>> that business plummeted, plus that the city had to pay one of the
>>>>>> businesses!!

>>>>>> The right hand did not know what the left did.....


>>>>>> starwars  wrote in message
>>>>>> news:...
>>>>>>> Can someone explain how a well-known liar/lawyer is able to get a
>>>>>>> massive UNDER-ASSESSMENT on his palatial property,which is
>>>>>>> knowingly under-assessed by more than $200,000.00!!

>>>>>>> This property, which the lawyer and spouse have declared to be
>>>>>>> worth at least $600,000 (yes six hundred thousands because it is
>>>>>>> huge,has law offices on ground floor plus apartments on second
>>>>>>> floor was assessed last year for less than a quarter of
>>>>>>> value,for only $148,000!!

>>>>>>> After the city tax department documented in city tax appeal
>>>>>>> Court last year, evidence of the real value of $600,000. now
>>>>>>> this year it is assessed for $393,500 - still more than $200,000
>>>>>>> UNDER-ASSESSED!!

>>>>>>> At the same time, neighbours are being OVER-ASSESSED by 20%!!

>>>>>>> Naturally, cynics wonder, who is on the take in the City?



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One must wonder, how much is WEM DELIBERATELY UNDER-ASSESSED, 
compared to all the financing registered on the property?

Is someone in the city tax assessment department still on the take?

Will Scott Hennig soon have another news story for the media, this time about
WEM?


On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 09:11:49 -0700, Chief Instigator 
wrote:

Next installment and exposure of city tax department irregularities will be
before the ARB on 31st August 2006

>Can't get to MGB sooner, because of flood of appeals filed against crooked
>Edmonton tax department!!
>Seems I am not the only one proving they are crooks.

>Again, will be exposed for all to see, the evidence proving the City allowed
>the lawyer owning the property at 13723 - 93 St. to be deliberately
>underassessed by HALF A MILLION DOLLARS each year, for 8 years!

>In retaliation, the city assessors incresed the assessment of the man who
>exposed their graft by 4 TIMES THAT OF HIS NEIGHBOURS!!

>Notice that Bob Welldumb can not argue the FACTS!
>Is he one of the beneficiaries of the crooks in the city tax department?
>One must wonder why he is so sore about the lawyer finally being forced 
>to pay his proper share of city taxes!!

>Even the City Auditor is admitting he is aware of serious problems in certain
>departments, and is recommending an anonymous "snitch line" to save the 
>City many millions.

>He could start with the city tax assessment section, obviously!!
>Why should Grosvenor who is not paid by the city, have to do the work 
>of the overpaid city employees, who seem to be mainly crooks?

>As has been well documented, friends of the City seem to be able to get
>extremely favourable UNDER-ASSESSMENTS on THEIR properties, while 
>the average citizen has their property OVER-ASSESSED to make up for the
>shortfall!!

>Yes, the city website was operational in May and June, which allowed some of
>us the opportunity to get the PROOF, which will be used in the ARB city tax
>appeals, to PROVE GROSS OR CRIMINAL IRREGULARITIES by the city tax staffers!

>One must wonder, for whom is Merle Foresth working, since he seems to not care
>about massive irregularities!!


>On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 09:03:12 -0600, KenMcVayAIDS 
>wrote:

>>Newsgroups: edm.general, edm.politics, ab.general, calgary.general
>>From: "Brian Boulanger" 
>>Date: 30 Jun 2005 08:02:40 -0700
>>Local: Thurs,Jun 30 2005 10:02 am
>>Subject: Re: $Half MILLION Underassessed By City Tax Dept.-Heads to
>>Roll!!

>>You are completely correct.
>>Unfortunately, the bureaucrats on the city payroll trough have
>>consistently opposed any review, such as Zero Based Budgetting, or MBO
>>Management by Objectives, or any means of quantifying or/and justifying
>>their jobs!
>
>>They know, that if the top 50% of all bureaucrats were fired, there
>>would be absolutely no loss in the actual performance of the city
>>departments.
>
>>In fact, rumour is that performance, and cost/benefit would
>>dramatically improve!!
>
>>
>>Take the local cops for example. We pay seniors there from $120,000 to
>>$180,000 each,plus benefits. All are supposedly fluent in English.
>>Yet they waste over ONE MILLION DOLLARS for their BS hacks and flacks,
>>because they do not want to address the media themselves, but would
>>rather engage in empire building! The million wasted could go instead
>>to hiring some honest cops!
>>
>>As for the council members, there is only one - Mike Nickel - who
>>actually runs a real business, and even he was forced to move it out of
>>
>>Edmonton to Leduc!! The rest of council are all parasites, and lazy
>>ne'er-do-wells.
>>
>>Newsgroups: edm.general, edm.politics, ab.general, calgary.general
>>From: f...@bouncemail.ca - Find messages by this author
>>Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 21:29:23 GMT
>>Local: Fri,Jul 1 2005 4:29 pm
>>Subject: Re: $Half MILLION Underassessed By City Tax Dept.-Heads to
>>Roll!!
>>On 30 Jun 2005 08:02:40 -0700, "Brian Boulanger"  wrote:
>>>You are completely correct.
>>>Unfortunately, the bureaucrats on the city payroll trough have
>>>consistently opposed any review, such as Zero Based Budgetting, or MBO
>>>Management by Objectives, or any means of quantifying or/and justifying
>>>their jobs!
>>
>>>They know, that if the top 50% of all bureaucrats were fired, there
>>>would be absolutely no loss in the actual performance of the city
>>>departments.
>>
>>I believe you and actually have no doubt of this myself.
>>
>>>In fact, rumour is that performance, and cost/benefit would dramatically
>>>improve!!
>>
>>No doubt, look at all the duplication of services we now have. No
>>wonder it is more expensive to buy anything in Canada today then it is
>>to shop in the States. All people have to do is go to the web sites of
>>any governmnent and check out all the departments. See if there is any
>>overlap. Also, one has to take into consideration the use of
>>computers. Seems to me that it takes just as long to push paperwork
>>through as it did when I used to type on a standard typewriter. One
>>should ask themselves why? Too many hands....
>>
>>
>>>Take the local cops for example. We pay seniors there from $120,000 to
>>>$180,000 each,plus benefits. All are supposedly fluent in English.
>>>Yet they waste over ONE MILLION DOLLARS for their BS hacks and flacks,
>>>because they do not want to address the media themselves, but would
>>>rather engage in empire building! The million wasted could go instead
>>>to hiring some honest cops!
>>
>>I am not to sure what you mean here.
>>WHY SHOULD TAXPAYERS HAVE TO [AY MORE THAN A MILLION DOLLARS FOR A BS
>>SECTION AT POLICE HQ, WHEN WE ALREADY OVERPAY THE TOP COPS?!!
>>For what the chief and his deputy goons get paid, they should do their
>>own talking to the media, or else continue lying as their predecessors
>>did, until fired!!
>>
>>>As for the council members, there is only one - Mike Nickel - who
>>>actually runs a real business, and even he was forced to move it out of
>>>Edmonton to Leduc!! The rest of council are all parasites, and lazy
>>>ne'er-do-wells.
>>
>>With all the deductions that businesses get from the federal
>>government in income tax why did Mike Nickel have to move his business
>>to Leduc?
>>
>>PROBABLY BECAUSE THERE IS TOO MUCH ANTI-BUSINESS RED TAPE FOR ANY
>>HONEST BUSINESS TRYING TO SURVIVE IN DEADMONTON?
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On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 10:33:58 GMT, "Sharx35"  wrote:
Evidence of crooked city tax assessors will again be proven at ARB Hearing,
Monday 18 September.

No wonder Mel Forseth, Nick Gorda, Mike Chibuk, and Frank Oesterreicher do not
want the public reminded, that for 8 years they allowed a lawyer's house to be
DELIBERATELY UNDER-ASSESSED BY HALF A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR, 
FOR 8 YEARS!!

One must wonder, who is on the take, to allow such irregularity for so long?

>Chief Instigator wrote:
>> Next installment and exposure of city tax department irregularities
>> was in  OPEN COURT, at the MGB Hearing,  March 27.

>> Again, was exposed for all to see, the evidence proving the City
>> allowed the lawyer to be underassessed  for his property at 13723 -
>> 93 St., by HALF A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR, for 8 years.

>Is that commercially zoned property, occupied by a residence?

It is a 2 story building, zoned DC5, with lawyer offices on main floor, and
rental apartments on upper floor.

HALF A MILLION DOLLARS each year - for 8 years!
His own papers filed declared the value to be $600,000, while his
friends in the city only assessed for $149,500!!

>> In retaliation, the city assessors incresed the assessment of the man
>> who exposed their graft by 4 TIMES THAT OF HIS NEIGHBOURS!!


>> Yes, the city website is operational in May and June, which allowed
>> some of us the opportunity to get the PROOF, which will be used in
>> the MGB city tax appeals, to PROVE GROSS OR CRIMINAL IRREGULARITIES
>> by the city tax staffers!

>> One must wonder, for whom is Merle Foresth working, since he seems to
>> not care about massive irregularities!!

>> It is now time, to not only FIRE those city employees involved in
>> this massive under-assessment for one of their buddies, but they
>> should also be PROSECUTED for their involvement in this massive FRAUD
>> on the city taxpayers!!

>> How many other friends of city tax department staff are also, still,
>> getting massive under-assessments, worth tens of thousands of dollars
>> per crook, apart from the well-known city lawyer exposed?

>> Time to clean house at city hall, and not just leave it up to
>> Grosvenor to take these crooks to court!!


>> From: arielv2@37.com the filthy crook, wanting everyone to know about
>> how corrupt is the cesspool called Deadmonton, wrote:
>> Newsgroups: edm.general,edm.politics
>> Subject: Re: APPEAL YOUR TAXES!!GRAFT,CORRUPTION in City Tax
>> Appeal-Lawyer Finally Got Taxes Quadrupled!! WHY BE JEWED?
>> Date: 1 Aug 2005 13:21:10 -0700

>> Why do you call our beuatiful city "deadmonton", ?
>> if you don't like it here why are you doing here? why don't you go
>> back to the rat hole you came from (england or whatever hellhole you're
>> from). stop polluting our charming city with your stinking existance. a
>> bullet thru your old and rotten head will be a great solution to your not
>> liking our city. drop dead you fucking nazi!


>> On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 09:12:18 -0600, George
>>  wrote:

>>> If your city tax assessment has increased more than the 2.4%
>>> inflation certified by StatsCan, then perhaps you also are a victim
>>> of the crooks running Deadmonton?!!

>>> If you feel you are being overcharged, then do what you are entitled
>>> to do - FILE AN APPEAL!!

>>> The odds are in your favour, since more than 80% of appeals against
>>> the City, win!!

>>> Checking the website for this year's assessments, it seems that the
>>> city of Edmonton finally obeyed the ARB,regarding the dramatically
>>> UNDERASSESSED property owned by a city liar/lawyer!.
>>> The value now is $651,000, up from the ridiculous $149,500!!!

>>> If not CORRUPTION, then at least favouritism, when property
>>> UNDER-ASSESSED BY HALF MILLION DOLLARS!!

>>> Rumour has it that the city tax assessor responsible, is no longer
>>> employed by the city??
>>> Why should a private citizen have to take the City to Court, just to
>>> force the city to do a proper job, for which some slimeball is
>>> getting overpaid?


>>> From: heinrichhimmelfarb@xmail.net (HeinrichHimmelfarb)
>>> Newsgroups:
>>> edm.general,edm.politics,ab.general,ab.politics,can.general Subject:
>>> Re: Graft,Corruption Claimed in City Tax Appeal!! LAWYER TO GET
>>> TAXES QUADRUPLED!!
>>> Date: 2 Oct 2004 08:46:23 -0700

>>> It seems that even a lawyer will finally get his comeuppance.
>>> The ARB on Monday ordered the city tax assessment department to
>>> finally correct the improper assessment and bring the value up to
>>> what it should be.

>>> This means that in one year, the assessment had to jump from the
>>> massive under-assessment of $149,500 to at least $600,000 and
>>> probably $608,000!!!

>>> Even a damned lawyer can finally get what he deserves,when someone
>>> has the guts to force the issue into a court.

>>> How many other massive UNDER-ASSESSMENTS, FOR FRIENDS OF THE CITY
>>> MANAGERS ARE OUT THERE?


>>> heinrichhimmelfarb@xmail.net (HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote in message
>>> news:<8e4c980f.0409260720.3cd39d0f@posting.google.com>...
>>>> Regarding the article below,the City is now declining to appear
>>>> before the ARB, tomorrow at 3:30 in the afternoon!!

>>>> It seems that they do not want to name the city tax assessor
>>>> responsible for the more than $200,00 REDUCTION in the property tax
>>>> assessment of the city liar/lawyer!!

>>>> In their documents sent to the complainant, the City DOES CONFIRM
>>>> THE CORRECT VALUE AT MORE THAN $608,000!!

>>>> The tax appeal Court/ARB will be asked whether this constitutes
>>>> CORRUPTION, or/and CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE!!!

>>>> Sharx, and others annoyed with city mismanagement, care to comment?


>>>> heinrichhimmelfarb@xmail.net (HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote in message
>>>> news:<8e4c980f.0408050922.417b9108@posting.google.com>...
>>>>> City have in fact confirmed,and helped correct previous assessment
>>>>> value.
>>>>> It was actually $149,500, while the owners declared value,in
>>>>> writing, was $600,000!!

>>>>> No explanation from the cretins in the Tax Assessment section as to
>>>>> why they gave their buddy such a massive UNDER-ASSESSMENT!!
>>>>> This while they gouge small homeowners and apartment owners with
>>>>> massive tax hikes!!

>>>>> No wonder the number of appeals this year is allegedly double.
>>>>> Perhaps the citizens are finally getting mad enough for a tax
>>>>> revolt.

>>>>>> Apparently THIS scandal is but the tip of the iceberg, regarding
>>>>>> irregularities involving the city tax department.

>>>>>> Another case,coming up in court next week, relates to an
>>>>>> out-of-court settlement the city had to make un connection with the illegal
>>>>>> closure of the southbound access road for Calgary Trail at Ellerslie Road.
>>>>>> One of the property owners, incensed at his astronomical tax
>>>>>> assessment hike this year, is presenting to the tax appeal court, the evidence
>>>>>> that business plummeted, plus that the city had to pay one of the
>>>>>> businesses!!

>>>>>> The right hand did not know what the left did.....


>>>>>> starwars  wrote in message
>>>>>> news:...
>>>>>>> Can someone explain how a well-known liar/lawyer is able to get a
>>>>>>> massive UNDER-ASSESSMENT on his palatial property,which is
>>>>>>> knowingly under-assessed by more than $200,000.00!!

>>>>>>> This property, which the lawyer and spouse have declared to be
>>>>>>> worth at least $600,000 (yes six hundred thousands because it is
>>>>>>> huge,has law offices on ground floor plus apartments on second
>>>>>>> floor was assessed last year for less than a quarter of
>>>>>>> value,for only $148,000!!

>>>>>>> After the city tax department documented in city tax appeal
>>>>>>> Court last year, evidence of the real value of $600,000. now
>>>>>>> this year it is assessed for $393,500 - still more than $200,000
>>>>>>> UNDER-ASSESSED!!

>>>>>>> At the same time, neighbours are being OVER-ASSESSED by 20%!!

>>>>>>> Naturally, cynics wonder, who is on the take in the City?



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Not even the Canadian CRTC can force a US website to close!!
Canada is not yet a part of the USA, and stupid Canadian court orders do not
have any effect in the USA, where FREEDOM OF SPEECH is protected by the
Constitution.

In the meantime, the US-based website for  the former Reinhard Mueller
continues in operation, even though a flunky Canuck judge had ordered it to be
closed.

On 25 Aug 2006 03:27:45 -0700, "Toto the Dog"  wrote:

>CRTC Refuses To Issue Immediate Ban On This Website
>Google Bans Name "Dossier Noir"; "Dosier Noir" Opens

>8/23/2006 5:36:18 PM
>Discuss this story in the forum
>LSN Staff

>Ottawa, Canada -- The Canadian Radio-Television and Telecommunications
>Council today refused to grant Jewish Canadian attorney Richard Warman
>an immediate ban on this website and its IP, as Google banned any
>blogger user from using the name "Dossier Noir", causing Bill White to
>set up a new Google blog account "Dosier Noir".

>"They act like no one has tried to take me off the internet before,"
>White, a real estate investor who previously owned an internet
>consulting business told the press, "There is nothing they can do,
>technically, that I cannot circumvent, if I decide its worth the time
>and money to do so."

>White told the Canadian Press today that he felt the Canadian
>government was making his point: That peaceful political change in
>Canada is no longer possible, and that it is time for Canadians to take
>up arms. When asked about how Jews in the country perceive him as evil,
>White said:

>"Good always looks evil to evil."

>White said his comments about Canada and the need for a change in the
>Canadian government were no different than similar comments US and
>Canadian Jews have made about the need for "regime change" in Iraq or
>North Korea:

>"If we can go to war to establish democracy in Iraq, a country
>thousands of miles away, then we can certainly go to war to
>re-establish democracy on our Northern border."

>White has been battling the Canadian government for years, insulting
>its Jewish leaders and harassing its intelligence and military
>officials. In 2003, Bernie Farber attempted to shut down this website
>after White published a poem entitled "slaughter of Zion". 

>In 2004, the Canadian Security and Intelligence Service attempted to come after
>White after White got the private cell phone number of its Director and
>began calling him in the evening to ask why he was harassing Ernst
>Zundel. Earlier this year, Canadian newspapers, all of which are owned
>by the Jews David and Leonard Asper, attacked White for supporting
>white nationalist Alex Linder and imprisoned Canadian dissident Tom
>Winnicki.

>"When men can no longer peacefuly express their dissent with their
>government," White says, "They have no choice but to resort to
>non-peaceful means.

>"I mean, what does Warman think? That we're just going to let him
>imprison and harass and victimize people while we stand by and smile?
>Let him meet his just fate -- execution at the hands of a people's
>government."

>White contends that Jews have taken over the Canadian media -- directly
>owning almost all of it -- and use that, combined with their
>international political influence, to control the Canadian government
>and use it to exploit, rob and murder Canada's white population.

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Arash, the word is hatemonger, not hatemongerer.
Or, did you mean hatemongrel, being a dog?

>On Sun, 3 Sep 2006 07:23:06 +1000, "Mike"  wrote:
>>"Firnando"  wrote in message 
>>news:1157229838.487540.142230@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
>>> Arash wrote:
>>>> This individual using the fake name of "Gary Rumain" (IP: 
>>>> 210.211.117.172), on a daily basis insults Muslims (He is Jewish). He 
>>>> also uses the name "I Hate muzzies", "All muzzies are dirty, filthy, 
>>>> stinking pigs".

>Subject: GARY RUMAIN'S ADDRESS & PHONE NUMBER - Call/Visit Him

>On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 08:10:16 GMT, 
>flaviaR@verizon.net wrote:
>>On  3-Dec-2005, "Ted"  wrote:
>>> The Re'evd wrote:
>>> > Suzy "convert" Cohen must have you killfiled, cunt.
>>> > She *insists* that people are only posting "Alex's" business address!

>>> OK, whatever.

>>Actually, this is just another lie of the self-proclaimed cunt who
>>calls himself "Rev" etc.
>>I only said no one did this *when* no one *had* done this.
>>He has since pretended that I said no one had done this *ever*.
>>It was HIS pretending that he had found MY home address
>>that nmade everyone post Seredin's - but I wish they had 
>>posted the phony rev's - all we have so far
>>is Gordon Radavich

>AND THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE ON YOU SUSAN E COHEN OF SILVER SPRING, MD
>AS HAS BEEN POSTED BY ANOTHER PARTY

>GARY A RUMAIN      Born  1964
>8112 GROVE ST
>SILVER SPRING, MD   (301) 565-9746

>SUSAN E COHEN      Born  Nov 1962
>8112 GROVE ST
>SILVER SPRING, MD  (301) 565-9746

>zenda@smart.net (Gary Rumain)

>You look very stupid in your denial of the facts Susan. You have been
>successfully outed so live with it.

>On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 08:02:03 GMT, <%bTjf.9769$AB2.6571@trnddc08>
>flaviaR@verizon.net wrote:

>>And you wonder why you liars get called stupid.

>I saw no lie. Where was the lie? For the fun or it I checked it out 
>and it is all true.

>>http://www.zabasearch.com/

>Using the above search I found the following also.

>>GARY A RUMAIN      Born  1964
>>8112 GROVE ST
>>SILVER SPRING, MD   (301) 565-9746
>
>>SUSAN E COHEN      Born  Nov 1962
>>8112 GROVE ST
>>SILVER SPRING, MD  (301) 565-9746
>
>http://www.infospace.com/home/white-pages/reverse-phone
>A reverse trace of the above telephone number shows:
>
>Gary Rumain
>8112 Grove St
>Silver Spring, MD 20910-4758
>Add to Outlook 301-565-9746
>http://kevdb.infospace.com/home/white-pages/kevdb?showrec=46587777:res-us&OTMPL=/white-pages/details.htm&QN=Rumain&QF=Gary&QC=Silver%20Spring&QS=MD&wqp=1&qsubcat=singlematch
>The above long link as a TinyURL:
>http://tinyurl.com/a74xw
>
>They even show a map of how to get to your house. 
>Care to remain in denial Susan E Cohen?
>
>You made the post below did you not? 
>You admitted Gary Rumain is your husband did you not?
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.scottish/msg/5a65b7eefb1e7400
>(Archived locally as: GaryAndSusan_1)
>
>>zenda@smart.net (Gary Rumain)
>>Re: Bruneian Royal Harem: "Harem Scare 'Em?" Dateline NBC 9/23/97
>>1997/10/05
>><617cpg$p9a$14@news.smart.net>
>
>>In alt.talk.royalty Yet Another Steve  wrote:
>>: In article <60snlk$hlc$9@news.smart.net>, zenda@smart.net (Gary Rumain) wrote:
>
>>: Okay, you've managed to confuse me now, too.  You post under the name
>>: "Gary Rumain" and sign your postings "Susan Cohen."  Is this an instance
>>: of someone "hiding his/her identity" as well?
>
>>No. If I wanted to hide my identity, would I sign each & every post with
>>my name? We haven't been able to change the post-name so it includes mine
>>as well as my husband's. However, I was under the impression that this was
>>a common enough occurence on Usenet.
>
>>And, the "anonymity" to which I referred was the fact that, while mine is
>>genuine, the original poster's was a false e-mail address. You can reach
>>me at zenda@smart.net any time you feel like tyoing. There was no way to
>>reach the original poster. I find that very suspicious, if only because
>>it is a perennial practise of the worst trolls.
>
>>Susan Cohen
>
>
>SUSAN STILL TRYING TO GET THE ADDRESS OF HER OPPONENT
>
>>All the search engines the bigots use (which I never knew of
>>until THEY posted about them - such idiots! -) are centered
>>in the US.
>
>>Susan
>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
>is a revolutionary act." 
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages. 
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant
>
>
>We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>
>
>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>office: VISIT at:
>#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>or call: 1-250-616-9431
>
>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
>called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
>should give an indication as to the why.
>
>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>
>Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked"?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>
>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David
>Michael's detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid
>molseter, and is known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies
>must be a grosvenor!! 
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases,
>just  to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>
>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially
>late nights.
>
>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
>send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>work:(780)492-0473
>
>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com
>
>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>IHR - www.ihr.org
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
>
>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>
>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>
>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>
>In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>for many years around the world.
>
>Reply-To: "George"
>,
>or to Ariadne@mac.hush.com, or Ariadne.mac@gmail.com
>Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the
>like.
>
>~~
>



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On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 10:06:14 -0400, Al-Minbar  wrote:

>Suicide attack in crowd of children in Afghanistan
>09-18-2006, 09h23
>KANDAHAR, Afghanistan (AFP)

>http://www.turkishpress.com/news.asp?id=142633

>A suicide bomber blew himself up in a crowd of children in southern 
>Afghanistan, causing multiple casualties, as NATO troops handed them 
>gift items, officials have said.

>"A suicide attacker detonated explosives strapped to his body in a crowd 
>of children where the troops were distributing pens and notebooks to 
>kids," a district police official told AFP on condition of anonymity Monday.

>He said 24 children were wounded, four of them in a critical condition, 
>while officials said NATO peacekeepers were also injured.

>NATO's International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) confirmed a bomb 
>had exploded near a patrol in the city of Kandahar, causing "multiple 
>casualties".

>"Local civilians also suffered injuries from the blast," it said in a 
>statement. "The ISAF soldiers were evacuated to military medical 
>facilities for treatment."

>It would not release the nationalities of the troops involved.

>Police said the soldiers were Canadians, but this could not be 
>immediately confirmed by the Canadian military which has 2,300 soldiers 
>in Kandahar.

>"It was a suicide attack," interior ministry spokesman Zemaray Bashari 
>said in Kabul, also identifying the patrol as Canadian. "It inflicted 
>both civilian and military casualties."

>The attack was outside Kandahar city in an area where ISAF Sunday 
>declared that a major offensive to drive out Taliban fighters had succeeded.

>The Taliban claimed responsibility for the bombing and said that 10 
>Canadian soldiers had died. The fundamentalist group frequently gives 
>exaggerated death tolls for its attacks.

>"Today at around 10:00 am a resident of Kandahar named Qudratullah 
>detonated explosives strapped to his body targeting a Canadian foot 
>patrol, which killed ten Canadian solidiers," purported Taliban 
>spokesman Yousuf Ahmadi said.

Subject: ORDER LOTS MORE BODY BAGS - For Victims of Zionazis

Have the stupid yanks, Canoodleheads, and Ozzies and Brits stocked
enough body bags for all the victims of the zionazis?

Tonight's news reports that an admitted 29 Canadians have so far been killed
in 
Afghanistan, for the US & Israel. 

Apart from hundreds wounded, some of whom did, or will die, outside
Afghanistan!!

Each week lately there are more and more stupid Canucks being used as target 
practice in Afghanistan and Iraq, to help the Israeli zionazis and US
imperialists.
NOT for the interests of normal Canadians!
Not just those who will be killed in Iraq, and Afghanistan, but all those
others
who will get killed by those supporting anti-Americanism, worldwide?

And, don't forget all those being killed by the YANKS!!
Friendly fire indeed.
Ask the stupid Canuck victims of "friendly fire",
or the latest Brit victims, or the Russian diplomats....

Media are now claiming MANY TENS OF THOUSANDS of allied soldiers
killed and wounded, many more than censored military are claiming!!

People all over the world are finally understanding that Dubya
is just a puppet for the damned ZHID CHRISTKILLERS in Israel,
and their minions running the USA, Canada, Britain and even
Australia.

The Bronfmans, Reichmanns, Rapaports, Fleischers and their
ilk do not care how many Christians they get killed,
as long as they make money from killing non-zionists!!

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant

We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.


Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late
nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
work:(780)492-0473

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.





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Is that why since the Estey Commission enquiry into abuses by Extortion
Canada, most people think that CA stands for CROOKED ACCOUNTANTS?

Why isn't CRA going after those restaurants and bars, where the OWNERS are
pocketing all the tips paid by credit cards, and NOT DECLARING THE TIPS AS
INCOME?

Guess the CRA feel it is easier to collect from wage slaves, rather than going
after the big crooks?

On 18 Sep 2006 21:01:21 -0700, "Alan Baggett" 
wrote:

>http://www.canada.com/topics/news/national/story.html?id=c3436a12-b8f8-426f-a9c0-7f95ca066b21&k=58561

>Hospitality workers blame accountants for advice on hiding tips

>By Dean Beeby

>OTTAWA (CP) - Waiters, waitresses and bartenders say their accountants
>often advise them not to declare some of their tips when filing
>income-tax returns, according to a new federal study.

>In a series of focus groups earlier this year, hospitality workers
>admitted to hiding a portion of their tip income - but blamed tax
>professionals for encouraging the illegal behaviour.

>"Those participants who indicated that they sought guidance from a tax
>professional suggested that accountants or other taxation professionals
>often advised them to underestimate the amount of tips they earned,
>referred to as 'doing the minimum'," says the report for Canada Revenue
>Agency.

>"This further reinforces the apathetic attitude that exists with
>respect to claiming tips and gratuities as income."

>The $35,000 report by Corporate Research Associates, delivered in May,
>examined the attitudes of 96 hospitality workers in four cities -
>Edmonton, Toronto, Peterborough and Halifax.
>
>All participants worked full-time in a restaurant or bar, and almost
>all used tax professionals to file their income taxes.
>
>The study is part of an effort by the agency to flush out more of the
>underground economy, estimated to be worth up to $15 billion each year.
>The hospitality industry is a target because of the high proportion of
>cash transactions with often-shoddy record-keeping.
>
>Most of the 96 workers acknowledged they rarely keep written records of
>their gratuities, and often collude with fellow workers about what
>percentage of their wages they should declare as tip income at tax
>time.
>
>"The percentage reported is often influenced by other employees within
>one establishment, as employees do 'agree' on what to report each year
>to avoid raising red flags with the agency," says the report.
>
>Most declared between seven and 15 per cent, with the most common at 10
>per cent. Tax laws, however, require that all tip income be recorded
>and declared.
>
>The report urges the Canada Revenue Agency to further investigate how
>tax preparers may be encouraging illegal behaviour.
>
>"A separate study among taxation professionals is needed to reach a
>conclusion regarding their role in this aspect of the underground
>economy," the authors recommend.
>
>Workers also indicated that if audits were more frequent or systematic
>in their industry, they might be more honest about tip income.
>
>"Bar and restaurant employees do not perceive a real risk of getting
>caught for improperly reporting tips, as very few of them know or have
>heard of someone getting audited," says the report.
>
>"Very few employees suggested that having a clear conscience, being
>honest, and having integrity are sufficient motivators to impact on
>their wrongful reporting behaviours."
>
>Many also resented being targeted by the agency, saying they're small
>fry compared with the construction industry's role in the underground
>economy.
>
>A spokeswoman for the Canada Revenue Agency said officials are still
>considering whether to investigate tax professionals.
>
>"The suggestion identified in the report will be reviewed and our
>strategy will be determined after a complete evaluation," Beatrice
>Fenelon said in an interview.
>
>She added that the agency has 1,250 employees working on compliance,
>and that the hospitality industry is not specially targeted.
>
>David Perry of the Canadian Tax Foundation said tax professionals are
>often former Canada Revenue Agency workers, or have been briefed by
>agency employees, and know the accepted rules of thumb within
>government about tip income.
>
>"You want them to pay a fair share of tax, and an amount of tax that
>will not trigger further enquiries, that is, an audit," he said from
>Toronto. "So you try and stay within the guidelines."
>
>But he also noted that with the rising number of electronic payments
>through Interac, there's less cash being used in the hospitality
>industry and fewer opportunities to hide revenues, including tip
>income. 
>
>© The Canadian Press 2006



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On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 10:33:58 GMT, "Sharx35"  wrote:
Evidence of crooked city tax assessors will again be proven at ARB Hearing,
Monday 18 September.

No wonder Mel Forseth, Nick Gorda, Mike Chibuk, and Frank Oesterreicher do not
want the public reminded, that for 8 years they allowed a lawyer's house to be
DELIBERATELY UNDER-ASSESSED BY HALF A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR, 
FOR 8 YEARS!!

One must wonder, who is on the take, to allow such irregularity for so long?

>Chief Instigator wrote:
>> Next installment and exposure of city tax department irregularities
>> was in  OPEN COURT, at the MGB Hearing,  March 27.

>> Again, was exposed for all to see, the evidence proving the City
>> allowed the lawyer to be underassessed  for his property at 13723 -
>> 93 St., by HALF A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR, for 8 years.

>Is that commercially zoned property, occupied by a residence?

It is a 2 story building, zoned DC5, with lawyer offices on main floor, and
rental apartments on upper floor.

HALF A MILLION DOLLARS each year - for 8 years!
His own papers filed declared the value to be $600,000, while his
friends in the city only assessed for $149,500!!

>> In retaliation, the city assessors incresed the assessment of the man
>> who exposed their graft by 4 TIMES THAT OF HIS NEIGHBOURS!!


>> Yes, the city website is operational in May and June, which allowed
>> some of us the opportunity to get the PROOF, which will be used in
>> the MGB city tax appeals, to PROVE GROSS OR CRIMINAL IRREGULARITIES
>> by the city tax staffers!

>> One must wonder, for whom is Merle Foresth working, since he seems to
>> not care about massive irregularities!!

>> It is now time, to not only FIRE those city employees involved in
>> this massive under-assessment for one of their buddies, but they
>> should also be PROSECUTED for their involvement in this massive FRAUD
>> on the city taxpayers!!

>> How many other friends of city tax department staff are also, still,
>> getting massive under-assessments, worth tens of thousands of dollars
>> per crook, apart from the well-known city lawyer exposed?

>> Time to clean house at city hall, and not just leave it up to
>> Grosvenor to take these crooks to court!!


>> From: arielv2@37.com the filthy crook, wanting everyone to know about
>> how corrupt is the cesspool called Deadmonton, wrote:
>> Newsgroups: edm.general,edm.politics
>> Subject: Re: APPEAL YOUR TAXES!!GRAFT,CORRUPTION in City Tax
>> Appeal-Lawyer Finally Got Taxes Quadrupled!! WHY BE JEWED?
>> Date: 1 Aug 2005 13:21:10 -0700

>> Why do you call our beuatiful city "deadmonton", ?
>> if you don't like it here why are you doing here? why don't you go
>> back to the rat hole you came from (england or whatever hellhole you're
>> from). stop polluting our charming city with your stinking existance. a
>> bullet thru your old and rotten head will be a great solution to your not
>> liking our city. drop dead you fucking nazi!


>> On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 09:12:18 -0600, George
>>  wrote:

>>> If your city tax assessment has increased more than the 2.4%
>>> inflation certified by StatsCan, then perhaps you also are a victim
>>> of the crooks running Deadmonton?!!

>>> If you feel you are being overcharged, then do what you are entitled
>>> to do - FILE AN APPEAL!!

>>> The odds are in your favour, since more than 80% of appeals against
>>> the City, win!!

>>> Checking the website for this year's assessments, it seems that the
>>> city of Edmonton finally obeyed the ARB,regarding the dramatically
>>> UNDERASSESSED property owned by a city liar/lawyer!.
>>> The value now is $651,000, up from the ridiculous $149,500!!!

>>> If not CORRUPTION, then at least favouritism, when property
>>> UNDER-ASSESSED BY HALF MILLION DOLLARS!!

>>> Rumour has it that the city tax assessor responsible, is no longer
>>> employed by the city??
>>> Why should a private citizen have to take the City to Court, just to
>>> force the city to do a proper job, for which some slimeball is
>>> getting overpaid?


>>> From: heinrichhimmelfarb@xmail.net (HeinrichHimmelfarb)
>>> Newsgroups:
>>> edm.general,edm.politics,ab.general,ab.politics,can.general Subject:
>>> Re: Graft,Corruption Claimed in City Tax Appeal!! LAWYER TO GET
>>> TAXES QUADRUPLED!!
>>> Date: 2 Oct 2004 08:46:23 -0700

>>> It seems that even a lawyer will finally get his comeuppance.
>>> The ARB on Monday ordered the city tax assessment department to
>>> finally correct the improper assessment and bring the value up to
>>> what it should be.

>>> This means that in one year, the assessment had to jump from the
>>> massive under-assessment of $149,500 to at least $600,000 and
>>> probably $608,000!!!

>>> Even a damned lawyer can finally get what he deserves,when someone
>>> has the guts to force the issue into a court.

>>> How many other massive UNDER-ASSESSMENTS, FOR FRIENDS OF THE CITY
>>> MANAGERS ARE OUT THERE?


>>> heinrichhimmelfarb@xmail.net (HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote in message
>>> news:<8e4c980f.0409260720.3cd39d0f@posting.google.com>...
>>>> Regarding the article below,the City is now declining to appear
>>>> before the ARB, tomorrow at 3:30 in the afternoon!!

>>>> It seems that they do not want to name the city tax assessor
>>>> responsible for the more than $200,00 REDUCTION in the property tax
>>>> assessment of the city liar/lawyer!!

>>>> In their documents sent to the complainant, the City DOES CONFIRM
>>>> THE CORRECT VALUE AT MORE THAN $608,000!!

>>>> The tax appeal Court/ARB will be asked whether this constitutes
>>>> CORRUPTION, or/and CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE!!!

>>>> Sharx, and others annoyed with city mismanagement, care to comment?


>>>> heinrichhimmelfarb@xmail.net (HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote in message
>>>> news:<8e4c980f.0408050922.417b9108@posting.google.com>...
>>>>> City have in fact confirmed,and helped correct previous assessment
>>>>> value.
>>>>> It was actually $149,500, while the owners declared value,in
>>>>> writing, was $600,000!!

>>>>> No explanation from the cretins in the Tax Assessment section as to
>>>>> why they gave their buddy such a massive UNDER-ASSESSMENT!!
>>>>> This while they gouge small homeowners and apartment owners with
>>>>> massive tax hikes!!

>>>>> No wonder the number of appeals this year is allegedly double.
>>>>> Perhaps the citizens are finally getting mad enough for a tax
>>>>> revolt.

>>>>>> Apparently THIS scandal is but the tip of the iceberg, regarding
>>>>>> irregularities involving the city tax department.

>>>>>> Another case,coming up in court next week, relates to an
>>>>>> out-of-court settlement the city had to make un connection with the illegal
>>>>>> closure of the southbound access road for Calgary Trail at Ellerslie Road.
>>>>>> One of the property owners, incensed at his astronomical tax
>>>>>> assessment hike this year, is presenting to the tax appeal court, the evidence
>>>>>> that business plummeted, plus that the city had to pay one of the
>>>>>> businesses!!

>>>>>> The right hand did not know what the left did.....


>>>>>> starwars  wrote in message
>>>>>> news:...
>>>>>>> Can someone explain how a well-known liar/lawyer is able to get a
>>>>>>> massive UNDER-ASSESSMENT on his palatial property,which is
>>>>>>> knowingly under-assessed by more than $200,000.00!!

>>>>>>> This property, which the lawyer and spouse have declared to be
>>>>>>> worth at least $600,000 (yes six hundred thousands because it is
>>>>>>> huge,has law offices on ground floor plus apartments on second
>>>>>>> floor was assessed last year for less than a quarter of
>>>>>>> value,for only $148,000!!

>>>>>>> After the city tax department documented in city tax appeal
>>>>>>> Court last year, evidence of the real value of $600,000. now
>>>>>>> this year it is assessed for $393,500 - still more than $200,000
>>>>>>> UNDER-ASSESSED!!

>>>>>>> At the same time, neighbours are being OVER-ASSESSED by 20%!!

>>>>>>> Naturally, cynics wonder, who is on the take in the City?



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One must wonder, how much is WEM DELIBERATELY UNDER-ASSESSED, 
compared to all the financing registered on the property?

Is someone in the city tax assessment department still on the take?

Will Scott Hennig soon have another news story for the media, this time about
WEM?


On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 09:11:49 -0700, Chief Instigator 
wrote:

Next installment and exposure of city tax department irregularities will be
before the ARB on 31st August 2006

>Can't get to MGB sooner, because of flood of appeals filed against crooked
>Edmonton tax department!!
>Seems I am not the only one proving they are crooks.

>Again, will be exposed for all to see, the evidence proving the City allowed
>the lawyer owning the property at 13723 - 93 St. to be deliberately
>underassessed by HALF A MILLION DOLLARS each year, for 8 years!

>In retaliation, the city assessors incresed the assessment of the man who
>exposed their graft by 4 TIMES THAT OF HIS NEIGHBOURS!!

>Notice that Bob Welldumb can not argue the FACTS!
>Is he one of the beneficiaries of the crooks in the city tax department?
>One must wonder why he is so sore about the lawyer finally being forced 
>to pay his proper share of city taxes!!

>Even the City Auditor is admitting he is aware of serious problems in certain
>departments, and is recommending an anonymous "snitch line" to save the 
>City many millions.

>He could start with the city tax assessment section, obviously!!
>Why should Grosvenor who is not paid by the city, have to do the work 
>of the overpaid city employees, who seem to be mainly crooks?

>As has been well documented, friends of the City seem to be able to get
>extremely favourable UNDER-ASSESSMENTS on THEIR properties, while 
>the average citizen has their property OVER-ASSESSED to make up for the
>shortfall!!

>Yes, the city website was operational in May and June, which allowed some of
>us the opportunity to get the PROOF, which will be used in the ARB city tax
>appeals, to PROVE GROSS OR CRIMINAL IRREGULARITIES by the city tax staffers!

>One must wonder, for whom is Merle Foresth working, since he seems to not care
>about massive irregularities!!


>On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 09:03:12 -0600, KenMcVayAIDS 
>wrote:

>>Newsgroups: edm.general, edm.politics, ab.general, calgary.general
>>From: "Brian Boulanger" 
>>Date: 30 Jun 2005 08:02:40 -0700
>>Local: Thurs,Jun 30 2005 10:02 am
>>Subject: Re: $Half MILLION Underassessed By City Tax Dept.-Heads to
>>Roll!!

>>You are completely correct.
>>Unfortunately, the bureaucrats on the city payroll trough have
>>consistently opposed any review, such as Zero Based Budgetting, or MBO
>>Management by Objectives, or any means of quantifying or/and justifying
>>their jobs!
>
>>They know, that if the top 50% of all bureaucrats were fired, there
>>would be absolutely no loss in the actual performance of the city
>>departments.
>
>>In fact, rumour is that performance, and cost/benefit would
>>dramatically improve!!
>
>>
>>Take the local cops for example. We pay seniors there from $120,000 to
>>$180,000 each,plus benefits. All are supposedly fluent in English.
>>Yet they waste over ONE MILLION DOLLARS for their BS hacks and flacks,
>>because they do not want to address the media themselves, but would
>>rather engage in empire building! The million wasted could go instead
>>to hiring some honest cops!
>>
>>As for the council members, there is only one - Mike Nickel - who
>>actually runs a real business, and even he was forced to move it out of
>>
>>Edmonton to Leduc!! The rest of council are all parasites, and lazy
>>ne'er-do-wells.
>>
>>Newsgroups: edm.general, edm.politics, ab.general, calgary.general
>>From: f...@bouncemail.ca - Find messages by this author
>>Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 21:29:23 GMT
>>Local: Fri,Jul 1 2005 4:29 pm
>>Subject: Re: $Half MILLION Underassessed By City Tax Dept.-Heads to
>>Roll!!
>>On 30 Jun 2005 08:02:40 -0700, "Brian Boulanger"  wrote:
>>>You are completely correct.
>>>Unfortunately, the bureaucrats on the city payroll trough have
>>>consistently opposed any review, such as Zero Based Budgetting, or MBO
>>>Management by Objectives, or any means of quantifying or/and justifying
>>>their jobs!
>>
>>>They know, that if the top 50% of all bureaucrats were fired, there
>>>would be absolutely no loss in the actual performance of the city
>>>departments.
>>
>>I believe you and actually have no doubt of this myself.
>>
>>>In fact, rumour is that performance, and cost/benefit would dramatically
>>>improve!!
>>
>>No doubt, look at all the duplication of services we now have. No
>>wonder it is more expensive to buy anything in Canada today then it is
>>to shop in the States. All people have to do is go to the web sites of
>>any governmnent and check out all the departments. See if there is any
>>overlap. Also, one has to take into consideration the use of
>>computers. Seems to me that it takes just as long to push paperwork
>>through as it did when I used to type on a standard typewriter. One
>>should ask themselves why? Too many hands....
>>
>>
>>>Take the local cops for example. We pay seniors there from $120,000 to
>>>$180,000 each,plus benefits. All are supposedly fluent in English.
>>>Yet they waste over ONE MILLION DOLLARS for their BS hacks and flacks,
>>>because they do not want to address the media themselves, but would
>>>rather engage in empire building! The million wasted could go instead
>>>to hiring some honest cops!
>>
>>I am not to sure what you mean here.
>>WHY SHOULD TAXPAYERS HAVE TO [AY MORE THAN A MILLION DOLLARS FOR A BS
>>SECTION AT POLICE HQ, WHEN WE ALREADY OVERPAY THE TOP COPS?!!
>>For what the chief and his deputy goons get paid, they should do their
>>own talking to the media, or else continue lying as their predecessors
>>did, until fired!!
>>
>>>As for the council members, there is only one - Mike Nickel - who
>>>actually runs a real business, and even he was forced to move it out of
>>>Edmonton to Leduc!! The rest of council are all parasites, and lazy
>>>ne'er-do-wells.
>>
>>With all the deductions that businesses get from the federal
>>government in income tax why did Mike Nickel have to move his business
>>to Leduc?
>>
>>PROBABLY BECAUSE THERE IS TOO MUCH ANTI-BUSINESS RED TAPE FOR ANY
>>HONEST BUSINESS TRYING TO SURVIVE IN DEADMONTON?
>>
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On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 04:32:48 GMT, Sew  wrote:
>On 30 Mar 2006 02:15:16 -0000, Dump The Crooks 
>wrote:

>>Canadian Taxpayers Association has exposed what many Edmonton taxpayers have
>>long suspected.

>>Because the city council and mayor pay themselves by having one third TAXFREE,
>>unlike most honest taxpayers, they are in fact way overpaid for the scams they
>>are endorsing.

>>CTA have confirmed that city councillors are in fact getting the equivalent of
>>$85,110 per year, which is more than other cities are paying.

>>The mayor is seriously overpaid, getting the equivalent of $167,870 a year!!
>>This means that the mayor of Deadmonton gets $6,000 more than Ralph Klein,
>>Premier of Alberta!!

>>Time to dump ALL the mayor and Council, and replace them with honest, hard-working
>>councillors getting a basic pay of $52,000 a year - PLUS BONUSES BASED ON LOWER TAXES
>>AND BETTER PERFORMANCE OF CITY ESSENTIAL FUNCTIONS!

>>At the same time, Council should implement ZBB - Zero Based Budgetting, and fire
>>all unnecessary city managers, and close down non-appropriate city departments.
>>Let the federal and provincial governments operate those functions which are THEIR responsibilities, 
>>such as arts, sports,multiculuralism, and welfare, to name a few.

>>Sharx, Sew, Grosvenor - care to comment?

>I am in TOTAL AGREEMENT. I am tired of politicians thinking they can
>just run for office and then increase homeowners taxes just so they
>can give themselves more and more raises. It is NOT RIGHT no matter
>who they are paying to say that it is. The cost of living in Edmonton
>is way lower than Calgary or Toronto, there are fewer people living in
>Edmonton, and most of all which of the people that are running this
>city have a university degree?? After all, in order to make that kind
>of money most people NEED to have a university degree. 

You do not need to have a university degree to be a capable administrator of
billions of dollars.

You should at least be a successful BUSINESS OWNER.
Out of current 13 clowns on council, apparaently only Mike Nickel owns a
successful business.

Further, council members should be HONEST, and not support corruption and
criminality, and similar. This council went so far as to give a payoff of HALF
A MILLION DOLLARS to the former disgraced chief cop, who had been fired for
just cause!!

No honest, competent business managers would have colluded as they did!!



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Guys, stop discussing ambulances.

How much do you think would be fair pay for the clowns on council, plus the
mare?

I doubt that we would get any candidates if we paid them what they are REALLY
worth, but at least give them something, for wasting hundreds of millions -
say welfare rates?


On 9 Apr 2006 21:38:59 -0000, Dump The Crooks  wrote:

>Canadian Taxpayers Association has exposed what many Edmonton taxpayers have
>long suspected.

>Because the city council and mayor pay themselves by having one third TAXFREE,
>unlike most honest taxpayers, they are in fact way overpaid for the scams they
>are endorsing.

>CTA have confirmed that city councillors are in fact getting the equivalent of
>$85,110 per year, which is more than other cities are paying.

>The mayor is seriously overpaid, getting the equivalent of $167,870 a year!!
>This means that the mayor of Deadmonton gets $6,000 more than Ralph Klein,
>Premier of Alberta!!

>Time to dump ALL the mayor and Council, and replace them with honest, hard-working
>councvillors getting a basic pay of $52,000 a year - PLUS BONUSES BASED ON LOWER TAXES
>AND BETTER PERFORMANCE OF CITY ESSENTIAL FUNCTIONS!

>At the same time, Council should implement ZBB - Zero Based Budgetting, and fire
>all unnecessary city managers, and close down non-appropriate city departments.
>Let the federal and provincial governments operate those functions which are THEIR responsibilities, 
>such as arts, sports,multiculuralism, and welfare, to name a few.

>Sharx, Sew, Grosvenor - care to comment?



>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org

>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>is a revolutionary act."
>(George Orwell)

>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

>"All truth passes through three stages.
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)

>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant

>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant




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Is that why since the Estey Commission enquiry into abuses by Extortion
Canada, most people think that CA stands for CROOKED ACCOUNTANTS?

Why isn't CRA going after those restaurants and bars, where the OWNERS are
pocketing all the tips paid by credit cards, and NOT DECLARING THE TIPS AS
INCOME?

Guess the CRA feel it is easier to collect from wage slaves, rather than going
after the big crooks?

On 18 Sep 2006 21:01:21 -0700, "Alan Baggett" 
wrote:

>http://www.canada.com/topics/news/national/story.html?id=c3436a12-b8f8-426f-a9c0-7f95ca066b21&k=58561

>Hospitality workers blame accountants for advice on hiding tips

>By Dean Beeby

>OTTAWA (CP) - Waiters, waitresses and bartenders say their accountants
>often advise them not to declare some of their tips when filing
>income-tax returns, according to a new federal study.

>In a series of focus groups earlier this year, hospitality workers
>admitted to hiding a portion of their tip income - but blamed tax
>professionals for encouraging the illegal behaviour.

>"Those participants who indicated that they sought guidance from a tax
>professional suggested that accountants or other taxation professionals
>often advised them to underestimate the amount of tips they earned,
>referred to as 'doing the minimum'," says the report for Canada Revenue
>Agency.

>"This further reinforces the apathetic attitude that exists with
>respect to claiming tips and gratuities as income."

>The $35,000 report by Corporate Research Associates, delivered in May,
>examined the attitudes of 96 hospitality workers in four cities -
>Edmonton, Toronto, Peterborough and Halifax.
>
>All participants worked full-time in a restaurant or bar, and almost
>all used tax professionals to file their income taxes.
>
>The study is part of an effort by the agency to flush out more of the
>underground economy, estimated to be worth up to $15 billion each year.
>The hospitality industry is a target because of the high proportion of
>cash transactions with often-shoddy record-keeping.
>
>Most of the 96 workers acknowledged they rarely keep written records of
>their gratuities, and often collude with fellow workers about what
>percentage of their wages they should declare as tip income at tax
>time.
>
>"The percentage reported is often influenced by other employees within
>one establishment, as employees do 'agree' on what to report each year
>to avoid raising red flags with the agency," says the report.
>
>Most declared between seven and 15 per cent, with the most common at 10
>per cent. Tax laws, however, require that all tip income be recorded
>and declared.
>
>The report urges the Canada Revenue Agency to further investigate how
>tax preparers may be encouraging illegal behaviour.
>
>"A separate study among taxation professionals is needed to reach a
>conclusion regarding their role in this aspect of the underground
>economy," the authors recommend.
>
>Workers also indicated that if audits were more frequent or systematic
>in their industry, they might be more honest about tip income.
>
>"Bar and restaurant employees do not perceive a real risk of getting
>caught for improperly reporting tips, as very few of them know or have
>heard of someone getting audited," says the report.
>
>"Very few employees suggested that having a clear conscience, being
>honest, and having integrity are sufficient motivators to impact on
>their wrongful reporting behaviours."
>
>Many also resented being targeted by the agency, saying they're small
>fry compared with the construction industry's role in the underground
>economy.
>
>A spokeswoman for the Canada Revenue Agency said officials are still
>considering whether to investigate tax professionals.
>
>"The suggestion identified in the report will be reviewed and our
>strategy will be determined after a complete evaluation," Beatrice
>Fenelon said in an interview.
>
>She added that the agency has 1,250 employees working on compliance,
>and that the hospitality industry is not specially targeted.
>
>David Perry of the Canadian Tax Foundation said tax professionals are
>often former Canada Revenue Agency workers, or have been briefed by
>agency employees, and know the accepted rules of thumb within
>government about tip income.
>
>"You want them to pay a fair share of tax, and an amount of tax that
>will not trigger further enquiries, that is, an audit," he said from
>Toronto. "So you try and stay within the guidelines."
>
>But he also noted that with the rising number of electronic payments
>through Interac, there's less cash being used in the hospitality
>industry and fewer opportunities to hide revenues, including tip
>income. 
>
>© The Canadian Press 2006



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Not even the Canadian CRTC can force a US website to close!!
Canada is not yet a part of the USA, and stupid Canadian court orders do not
have any effect in the USA, where FREEDOM OF SPEECH is protected by the
Constitution.

In the meantime, the US-based website for  the former Reinhard Mueller
continues in operation, even though a flunky Canuck judge had ordered it to be
closed.

On 25 Aug 2006 03:27:45 -0700, "Toto the Dog"  wrote:

>CRTC Refuses To Issue Immediate Ban On This Website
>Google Bans Name "Dossier Noir"; "Dosier Noir" Opens

>8/23/2006 5:36:18 PM
>Discuss this story in the forum
>LSN Staff

>Ottawa, Canada -- The Canadian Radio-Television and Telecommunications
>Council today refused to grant Jewish Canadian attorney Richard Warman
>an immediate ban on this website and its IP, as Google banned any
>blogger user from using the name "Dossier Noir", causing Bill White to
>set up a new Google blog account "Dosier Noir".

>"They act like no one has tried to take me off the internet before,"
>White, a real estate investor who previously owned an internet
>consulting business told the press, "There is nothing they can do,
>technically, that I cannot circumvent, if I decide its worth the time
>and money to do so."

>White told the Canadian Press today that he felt the Canadian
>government was making his point: That peaceful political change in
>Canada is no longer possible, and that it is time for Canadians to take
>up arms. When asked about how Jews in the country perceive him as evil,
>White said:

>"Good always looks evil to evil."

>White said his comments about Canada and the need for a change in the
>Canadian government were no different than similar comments US and
>Canadian Jews have made about the need for "regime change" in Iraq or
>North Korea:

>"If we can go to war to establish democracy in Iraq, a country
>thousands of miles away, then we can certainly go to war to
>re-establish democracy on our Northern border."

>White has been battling the Canadian government for years, insulting
>its Jewish leaders and harassing its intelligence and military
>officials. In 2003, Bernie Farber attempted to shut down this website
>after White published a poem entitled "slaughter of Zion". 

>In 2004, the Canadian Security and Intelligence Service attempted to come after
>White after White got the private cell phone number of its Director and
>began calling him in the evening to ask why he was harassing Ernst
>Zundel. Earlier this year, Canadian newspapers, all of which are owned
>by the Jews David and Leonard Asper, attacked White for supporting
>white nationalist Alex Linder and imprisoned Canadian dissident Tom
>Winnicki.

>"When men can no longer peacefuly express their dissent with their
>government," White says, "They have no choice but to resort to
>non-peaceful means.

>"I mean, what does Warman think? That we're just going to let him
>imprison and harass and victimize people while we stand by and smile?
>Let him meet his just fate -- execution at the hands of a people's
>government."

>White contends that Jews have taken over the Canadian media -- directly
>owning almost all of it -- and use that, combined with their
>international political influence, to control the Canadian government
>and use it to exploit, rob and murder Canada's white population.

Emailed to you by:

Libertarian Socialist News
ATTN: Bill White, Editor

Post Office Box 8631
Roanoke, VA 24014

http://www.overthrow.com
dhyphen@yahoo.com



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The original poster had asked, whether there are people willing to pay towards
a one-way ticket to China for child molester Whitmore, and all his crooked
judges.

There, the Chinese government really dislikes fags, whom they consider vermin,
and suitable for organ harvesting, provided not too diseased with AIDS and the
like.

I would gladly join in making a modest contribution, if there is an organised
fund to dispose of Whitmore and all his judges.

This is NOT a death threat, merely an offer to contribute towards having the
government of China dispose of this garbage.



On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 01:39:47 -0700, Vishnu - destroyer of Nazi Coughlan's
support of the Shoah  wrote:
>On 10 Feb 2006 02:02:39 -0800, "Phillipe 'Kill the infidels' Coughlan"
> wrote:
>>James 'the Humble' Noles a écrit :

>No... James 'the  Humble' did not post the comment that the liar
>Nazi Coughlan attempts to attribute to me.

>>> If the Chinese are so efficient at getting rid of their criminals, perhaps
>>> they would accept Dezi, for vivisection, parts,or similar?

>>> There must be enough people willing to contribute towards a one-way ticket for
>>> Dezi to China??

>>Why not spare the expense, NN, 

>You're a liar, and the scum of the earth, NC.   And you use the method
>that you've used here because you know I expose you, using only
>your words.  It must be terrible, being you.  To which Nazi Coughlan
>replies -- "It's not easy."  But you've attempted this before.  When
>you have an enemy you try to use any lie, any evil, any sickness
>on your part to hide your own evil.  But all you do, is heap evil
>upon the evil that is already a part of you.  Sick... sick... sick...

>> and send someone to murder me?  After
>>all, you're the only poster to AADP to have publicly called for a
>>contract to be taken out on me ..
>>
>
>LOL... Still lying I see.   Your attempt to transform my word "might"
>into "should" or "hope," is juvenile, but then you are famous for being
>juvenile.  The number of logical fallacies that exist in your attempt
>exceed any reasonable expectation for you to look like anything other
>than a fool for even trying.  For starters -- it violates --
>
>http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#hominem
>http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#slope
>http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#elenchi
>http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#noncausa
>http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#reification
>http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#misericordiam
>http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#nonseq
>http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#bifurcation
>http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#logicam
>http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#baculum
>http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#complexq
>http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#circulus
>http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#alterapars
>http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#ignorantiam
>http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#nauseam
>http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#herring
>and finally --
>http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#strawman
>
>Each of those logical fallacies exist within your attempt to
>transform my comment into meaning an attempt to have
>you killed.  You're a very sick man, but there is no law
>against that, and you are the best thing that ever happened
>to retention as far as the argument of the DP in AADP.
>
>
>Planet Visitor II
>http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/dict.html
>
>Hey, gentle reader.  Want to see Nazi Coughlan express
>his affection for the life of Kenneth McDuff over the life
>of his own wife.  Pay attention.  here's the proof --
>
>"The murder of an innocent by a wrongly released murderer is the lesser of two
>evils." --  Nazi Coughlan.  See --  
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/45ad448fc2e7ab95
>
>Okay, gentle reader.  This is obviously a fallacy of
>http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#generalization
>
>An over-generalization, expecting it to be a reasonable argument from a
>reasonable person, yet failing to verify he actually believes it, once
>specific, not-generalized examples are plugged into his comment.
>So first, we need to addresss the issue of who he argues are included
>in that generalized group of "an innocent."  If his argument holds for
>ALL "innocents," then by reason we can plug in a specific value of
>a specific person having a personal connection to the author of the
>comment.  Doing so, we can use his wife, since he has not excluded
>her, and has in fact offered her up to a murder in another of his comments.
>This would be his comment: --
>
>"For principled abolitionists, it would not matter if the murderer killed
>our children, our mothers, our wives.... We _still_ would not support
> their execution."  See --
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/fdbc7222cf664006
>
>Now that we have determined a specific "innocent" that he accepts as
>a value to plug in, his comment can be stated as -- "The murder of
>"my wife"by a wrongly released murderer is the lesser of two evils."
>
>Okay... now we need to examine a SPECIFIC example of "wrongly
>released murderer," if his comment is to remain valid throughout the
>spectrum of ALL "wrongly released murderers," since his comment
>was generalized to ALL "wrongly released murderers."  And we have
>the specific example of Kenneth McDuff.  See --
>http://www.geocities.com/verbal_plainfield/i-p/mcduff.html
>
>So if the author of that original comment, Nazi Coughlan, wishes it
>to actually represent a valid comment as written it must be valid
>for all values.  Thus it appears that he believes that this also
>represents his view, using particular values of "his wife" and
>Kenneth McDuff, so he words mean -- "The murder of my wife
>by Kenneth McDuff is the lesser of two evils."  The greater
>evil being in Nazi Coughlan's view, the execution of Kenneth
>McDuff as originally scheduled for a number of other murders
>before murdering Nazi Coughlan's wife.  Oh my... do you really
>love the life of Kenneth McDuff more than the life of your
>wife?  What's going on with you?

>>Y.



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On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 04:32:48 GMT, Sew  wrote:
>On 30 Mar 2006 02:15:16 -0000, Dump The Crooks 
>wrote:

>>Canadian Taxpayers Association has exposed what many Edmonton taxpayers have
>>long suspected.

>>Because the city council and mayor pay themselves by having one third TAXFREE,
>>unlike most honest taxpayers, they are in fact way overpaid for the scams they
>>are endorsing.

>>CTA have confirmed that city councillors are in fact getting the equivalent of
>>$85,110 per year, which is more than other cities are paying.

>>The mayor is seriously overpaid, getting the equivalent of $167,870 a year!!
>>This means that the mayor of Deadmonton gets $6,000 more than Ralph Klein,
>>Premier of Alberta!!

>>Time to dump ALL the mayor and Council, and replace them with honest, hard-working
>>councillors getting a basic pay of $52,000 a year - PLUS BONUSES BASED ON LOWER TAXES
>>AND BETTER PERFORMANCE OF CITY ESSENTIAL FUNCTIONS!

>>At the same time, Council should implement ZBB - Zero Based Budgetting, and fire
>>all unnecessary city managers, and close down non-appropriate city departments.
>>Let the federal and provincial governments operate those functions which are THEIR responsibilities, 
>>such as arts, sports,multiculuralism, and welfare, to name a few.

>>Sharx, Sew, Grosvenor - care to comment?

>I am in TOTAL AGREEMENT. I am tired of politicians thinking they can
>just run for office and then increase homeowners taxes just so they
>can give themselves more and more raises. It is NOT RIGHT no matter
>who they are paying to say that it is. The cost of living in Edmonton
>is way lower than Calgary or Toronto, there are fewer people living in
>Edmonton, and most of all which of the people that are running this
>city have a university degree?? After all, in order to make that kind
>of money most people NEED to have a university degree. 

You do not need to have a university degree to be a capable administrator of
billions of dollars.

You should at least be a successful BUSINESS OWNER.
Out of current 13 clowns on council, apparaently only Mike Nickel owns a
successful business.

Further, council members should be HONEST, and not support corruption and
criminality, and similar. This council went so far as to give a payoff of HALF
A MILLION DOLLARS to the former disgraced chief cop, who had been fired for
just cause!!

No honest, competent business managers would have colluded as they did!!



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Subject: Canadian Drug Dealers Arrested in Australia
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Canadian newspapers reported today that another 4 Canadian drug dealers have
been arrested in Australia.

Why does Australia not do as Indonesia, Malaysia and Singapore do?
Give them the "long drop", and thereby save taxpayers the costs of
incarceration.
It helps get rid of such garbage creatures - permanently.
They will never re-offend!


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At least the government of Indonesia know what to do with garbage people, such
as drug dealers.

They know, as do other sensible governments in the area, that an executed
criminal will never re-offend!!

Further, an executed waste of skin, will not cost the taxpayers for the upkeep
in some pampering prison system!!

If only the justice systems in Australia & North America would follow suit!!!
Oz could start by executing the 4 Canadian drug trafickers it just arrested!!


On 17 Feb 2006 18:43:24 -0800, "LifeManTalking"  wrote:

>AUSTRALIA - Few Australians have much sympathy for Andrew Chan and
>Myuran Sukumaran, the two drug traffickers sentenced to death in Bali
>this week for their failed bid to smuggle more than 8kg of heroin on to
>the streets of Sydney.

>The lives of too many of their young people have been destroyed by
>drugs and, as innumerable letters to newspapers and callers to talkback
>radio have pointed out, Chan and Sukumaran could never have been in any
>doubt of the risk they took in running narcotics through Indonesia.

>But the prospect of the pair being taken from Kerobokan jail, tied to a
>tree in some lonely clearing, and shot by a paramilitary firing squad
>raises deep and disturbing moral, political and diplomatic dilemmas for
>a nation that last executed a criminal almost 40 years ago and now
>opposes the death penalty worldwide.

>Their own police provided the information that inevitably led to
>Tuesday's sentence. Their Government welcomed the death penalty given
>to the Bali bombers but opposes the same fate for Australian drug
>traffickers, and public opinion is repulsed by the prospect of
>executions at home but inconsistently accepts them abroad.

>It is a diplomatic minefield that Canberra traversed when
>Vietnamese-born Melburnian Van Tuong Nguyen was hanged in Singapore in
>December for taking heroin through Changi airport, despite Australian
>appeals for clemency.

>It is also a minefield that the nation will confront time and again:
>despite repeated warnings and the appalling reality of executions,
>there will always be people foolish enough to strap drugs to their
>bodies or conceal it in their luggage.

>Almost all will pass through Southeast Asia, the source of most of
>Australia's heroin (the Bali Nine consignment originated in Thailand)
>and where every country but Cambodia compulsorily hangs, shoots or
>lethally injects traffickers.

>Mike Phelan, the head of international operations for the Australian
>Federal Police and the man responsible for giving Indonesia the
>information it needed to arrest the Bali Nine, sees no end to the queue
>of couriers the trade calls "mules".

>"It continues to astound me that people attempt importations and move
>drugs through transit countries knowing that the death penalty exists,"
>he told ABC's Australian Story. "Many young lives get thrown away for
>the law of quick dollars."

>The AFP's role in the arrest of the Bali Nine is among the most
>sensitive of the issues facing Prime Minister John Howard, who has
>already weathered a barrage of criticism that has extended even into
>his own party room.

>The AFP caught the first whispers of a major heroin importing run in
>February last year and, in April, asked the Indonesian police to help
>uncover the members of the syndicate and the source of their supplies.

>Between them, the two forces discovered most of the names and built a
>remarkably accurate picture of their operation, including details of a
>previous successful run and another aborted attempt.

>This co-operation has become increasingly commonplace, spurred by the
>determination of all countries in the region to attack drug trafficking
>and terrorism. Intelligence swapping is required under a number of
>treaties.

>"We make no secret of the fact that the AFP has a policy of forward
>engagement where we want to stop the crimes at the source and (prevent
>them) from reaching Australian shores," Phelan said. "That's a practice
>we will continue to operate within."

>What worries many Australians is the fact that the AFP in effect turned
>over a group of young Australians to a country it knew was likely to
>execute them, rather than arresting them when they arrived home.

>The most emotional response centred on Scott Rush, 20, a drug mule who
>was jailed for life. His family, through lawyer Bob Myers, vainly asked
>the AFP to warn Rush of their interest before he left Australia.

>"No Australian public servant has the right to expose any Australian
>citizen to the death penalty," Myers told Australian Story.

>Rush and fellow mules Renae Lawrence, Martin Stephens and Michael
>Czugaj took the AFP to the Federal Court, claiming it had acted
>illegally by exposing them to the death penalty.

>While a large part of public opinion agreed, the court dismissed the
>action.

>The Government has also sidestepped criticism, pointing out that while
>the relevant treaty with Indonesia contains a clause allowing the
>Attorney-General to refuse to provide evidence if an Australian was
>charged with an offence carrying the death penalty, the AFP was free to
>do as it thought best until charges were laid.

>By the time the Bali Nine were formally charged, all the damaging
>evidence had been gathered.

>Phelan is unrepentant: "Basically all transit countries through which
>drugs come to Australia have the death penalty. The AFP cannot pick and
>choose who it chooses to cooperate with."

>International teamwork in the past few years has significantly reduced
>the flow of drugs into Australia. The most recent Australian Crime
>Commission figures, for 2003-04, show the lowest seizures of heroin for
>a decade.

>Refusal to co-operate abroad would outrage regional governments and
>threaten mutual action against other drug syndicates and terrorism.

>Public opinion in Southeast Asia also strongly favours the death
>penalty for traffickers, with polls in Singapore and Thailand showing
>support of up to 80 per cent.

>In Australia, opinion is more confused. A Morgan poll in November found
>that while only 27 per cent of Australians favoured the death penalty
>for murder, 57 per cent believed drug traffickers caught in Asia should
>die.

>Yet in the specific case of Van Nguyen, opinion was evenly divided.

>In The Australian, a newspoll found that more than 50 per cent of
>Australians favoured the death sentence for people convicted of major
>acts of terrorism.

>Howard now has to weigh all these conflicting factors in framing
>Canberra's approach to the executions of Chan and Sukumaran. He has
>said publicly he has no sympathy for the two men but will vigorously
>pursue Australia's long-standing opposition to the death penalty.

>How that is carried out will test Australian diplomacy.

>Apart from the risks to a fragile relationship, observers have pointed
>out that any blunt approach will almost certainly stiffen backs in
>Jakarta and end any chance of clemency.

>Hopes of saving Chan and Sukumaran now rest with Indonesia's
>inconsistent record in carrying out executions, the fact that in recent
>times only three of the more than 85 prisoners on death row have been
>shot, and the lengthy legal road still to be travelled.

>It may be years before their case moves through the Denpasar provincial
>High Court and the two reviews possible through the Supreme Court in
>Jakarta.

>And though President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono has said he will never
>grant clemency to drug traffickers, time and quiet diplomacy may change
>his mind.

>Death penalty Australia's double dilemma 
>
>18.02.06
>By Greg Ansley



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On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 01:06:59 GMT, "Leon Trollski"  wrote:
>"Bob Loblaw"  wrote in message
>news:GNqLf.65797$H%4.18710@pd7tw2no...

>with pay???  This is disgusting.

The 2 low level cops Bell and Nesbitt were arrested, and charged.
They are the ones now on paid holidays!

But what about their crooked BOSS, the one who gave the orders, 
and presumably got MORE THAN THE $437,000?!!



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On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 10:33:58 GMT, "Sharx35"  wrote:
Evidence of crooked city tax assessors will again be proven at ARB Hearing,
Monday 18 September.

No wonder Mel Forseth, Nick Gorda, Mike Chibuk, and Frank Oesterreicher do not
want the public reminded, that for 8 years they allowed a lawyer's house to be
DELIBERATELY UNDER-ASSESSED BY HALF A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR, 
FOR 8 YEARS!!

One must wonder, who is on the take, to allow such irregularity for so long?

>Chief Instigator wrote:
>> Next installment and exposure of city tax department irregularities
>> was in  OPEN COURT, at the MGB Hearing,  March 27.

>> Again, was exposed for all to see, the evidence proving the City
>> allowed the lawyer to be underassessed  for his property at 13723 -
>> 93 St., by HALF A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR, for 8 years.

>Is that commercially zoned property, occupied by a residence?

It is a 2 story building, zoned DC5, with lawyer offices on main floor, and
rental apartments on upper floor.

HALF A MILLION DOLLARS each year - for 8 years!
His own papers filed declared the value to be $600,000, while his
friends in the city only assessed for $149,500!!

>> In retaliation, the city assessors incresed the assessment of the man
>> who exposed their graft by 4 TIMES THAT OF HIS NEIGHBOURS!!


>> Yes, the city website is operational in May and June, which allowed
>> some of us the opportunity to get the PROOF, which will be used in
>> the MGB city tax appeals, to PROVE GROSS OR CRIMINAL IRREGULARITIES
>> by the city tax staffers!

>> One must wonder, for whom is Merle Foresth working, since he seems to
>> not care about massive irregularities!!

>> It is now time, to not only FIRE those city employees involved in
>> this massive under-assessment for one of their buddies, but they
>> should also be PROSECUTED for their involvement in this massive FRAUD
>> on the city taxpayers!!

>> How many other friends of city tax department staff are also, still,
>> getting massive under-assessments, worth tens of thousands of dollars
>> per crook, apart from the well-known city lawyer exposed?

>> Time to clean house at city hall, and not just leave it up to
>> Grosvenor to take these crooks to court!!


>> From: arielv2@37.com the filthy crook, wanting everyone to know about
>> how corrupt is the cesspool called Deadmonton, wrote:
>> Newsgroups: edm.general,edm.politics
>> Subject: Re: APPEAL YOUR TAXES!!GRAFT,CORRUPTION in City Tax
>> Appeal-Lawyer Finally Got Taxes Quadrupled!! WHY BE JEWED?
>> Date: 1 Aug 2005 13:21:10 -0700

>> Why do you call our beuatiful city "deadmonton", ?
>> if you don't like it here why are you doing here? why don't you go
>> back to the rat hole you came from (england or whatever hellhole you're
>> from). stop polluting our charming city with your stinking existance. a
>> bullet thru your old and rotten head will be a great solution to your not
>> liking our city. drop dead you fucking nazi!


>> On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 09:12:18 -0600, George
>>  wrote:

>>> If your city tax assessment has increased more than the 2.4%
>>> inflation certified by StatsCan, then perhaps you also are a victim
>>> of the crooks running Deadmonton?!!

>>> If you feel you are being overcharged, then do what you are entitled
>>> to do - FILE AN APPEAL!!

>>> The odds are in your favour, since more than 80% of appeals against
>>> the City, win!!

>>> Checking the website for this year's assessments, it seems that the
>>> city of Edmonton finally obeyed the ARB,regarding the dramatically
>>> UNDERASSESSED property owned by a city liar/lawyer!.
>>> The value now is $651,000, up from the ridiculous $149,500!!!

>>> If not CORRUPTION, then at least favouritism, when property
>>> UNDER-ASSESSED BY HALF MILLION DOLLARS!!

>>> Rumour has it that the city tax assessor responsible, is no longer
>>> employed by the city??
>>> Why should a private citizen have to take the City to Court, just to
>>> force the city to do a proper job, for which some slimeball is
>>> getting overpaid?


>>> From: heinrichhimmelfarb@xmail.net (HeinrichHimmelfarb)
>>> Newsgroups:
>>> edm.general,edm.politics,ab.general,ab.politics,can.general Subject:
>>> Re: Graft,Corruption Claimed in City Tax Appeal!! LAWYER TO GET
>>> TAXES QUADRUPLED!!
>>> Date: 2 Oct 2004 08:46:23 -0700

>>> It seems that even a lawyer will finally get his comeuppance.
>>> The ARB on Monday ordered the city tax assessment department to
>>> finally correct the improper assessment and bring the value up to
>>> what it should be.

>>> This means that in one year, the assessment had to jump from the
>>> massive under-assessment of $149,500 to at least $600,000 and
>>> probably $608,000!!!

>>> Even a damned lawyer can finally get what he deserves,when someone
>>> has the guts to force the issue into a court.

>>> How many other massive UNDER-ASSESSMENTS, FOR FRIENDS OF THE CITY
>>> MANAGERS ARE OUT THERE?


>>> heinrichhimmelfarb@xmail.net (HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote in message
>>> news:<8e4c980f.0409260720.3cd39d0f@posting.google.com>...
>>>> Regarding the article below,the City is now declining to appear
>>>> before the ARB, tomorrow at 3:30 in the afternoon!!

>>>> It seems that they do not want to name the city tax assessor
>>>> responsible for the more than $200,00 REDUCTION in the property tax
>>>> assessment of the city liar/lawyer!!

>>>> In their documents sent to the complainant, the City DOES CONFIRM
>>>> THE CORRECT VALUE AT MORE THAN $608,000!!

>>>> The tax appeal Court/ARB will be asked whether this constitutes
>>>> CORRUPTION, or/and CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE!!!

>>>> Sharx, and others annoyed with city mismanagement, care to comment?


>>>> heinrichhimmelfarb@xmail.net (HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote in message
>>>> news:<8e4c980f.0408050922.417b9108@posting.google.com>...
>>>>> City have in fact confirmed,and helped correct previous assessment
>>>>> value.
>>>>> It was actually $149,500, while the owners declared value,in
>>>>> writing, was $600,000!!

>>>>> No explanation from the cretins in the Tax Assessment section as to
>>>>> why they gave their buddy such a massive UNDER-ASSESSMENT!!
>>>>> This while they gouge small homeowners and apartment owners with
>>>>> massive tax hikes!!

>>>>> No wonder the number of appeals this year is allegedly double.
>>>>> Perhaps the citizens are finally getting mad enough for a tax
>>>>> revolt.

>>>>>> Apparently THIS scandal is but the tip of the iceberg, regarding
>>>>>> irregularities involving the city tax department.

>>>>>> Another case,coming up in court next week, relates to an
>>>>>> out-of-court settlement the city had to make un connection with the illegal
>>>>>> closure of the southbound access road for Calgary Trail at Ellerslie Road.
>>>>>> One of the property owners, incensed at his astronomical tax
>>>>>> assessment hike this year, is presenting to the tax appeal court, the evidence
>>>>>> that business plummeted, plus that the city had to pay one of the
>>>>>> businesses!!

>>>>>> The right hand did not know what the left did.....


>>>>>> starwars  wrote in message
>>>>>> news:...
>>>>>>> Can someone explain how a well-known liar/lawyer is able to get a
>>>>>>> massive UNDER-ASSESSMENT on his palatial property,which is
>>>>>>> knowingly under-assessed by more than $200,000.00!!

>>>>>>> This property, which the lawyer and spouse have declared to be
>>>>>>> worth at least $600,000 (yes six hundred thousands because it is
>>>>>>> huge,has law offices on ground floor plus apartments on second
>>>>>>> floor was assessed last year for less than a quarter of
>>>>>>> value,for only $148,000!!

>>>>>>> After the city tax department documented in city tax appeal
>>>>>>> Court last year, evidence of the real value of $600,000. now
>>>>>>> this year it is assessed for $393,500 - still more than $200,000
>>>>>>> UNDER-ASSESSED!!

>>>>>>> At the same time, neighbours are being OVER-ASSESSED by 20%!!

>>>>>>> Naturally, cynics wonder, who is on the take in the City?



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One must wonder, how much is WEM DELIBERATELY UNDER-ASSESSED, 
compared to all the financing registered on the property?

Is someone in the city tax assessment department still on the take?

Will Scott Hennig soon have another news story for the media, this time about
WEM?


On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 09:11:49 -0700, Chief Instigator 
wrote:

Next installment and exposure of city tax department irregularities will be
before the ARB on 31st August 2006

>Can't get to MGB sooner, because of flood of appeals filed against crooked
>Edmonton tax department!!
>Seems I am not the only one proving they are crooks.

>Again, will be exposed for all to see, the evidence proving the City allowed
>the lawyer owning the property at 13723 - 93 St. to be deliberately
>underassessed by HALF A MILLION DOLLARS each year, for 8 years!

>In retaliation, the city assessors incresed the assessment of the man who
>exposed their graft by 4 TIMES THAT OF HIS NEIGHBOURS!!

>Notice that Bob Welldumb can not argue the FACTS!
>Is he one of the beneficiaries of the crooks in the city tax department?
>One must wonder why he is so sore about the lawyer finally being forced 
>to pay his proper share of city taxes!!

>Even the City Auditor is admitting he is aware of serious problems in certain
>departments, and is recommending an anonymous "snitch line" to save the 
>City many millions.

>He could start with the city tax assessment section, obviously!!
>Why should Grosvenor who is not paid by the city, have to do the work 
>of the overpaid city employees, who seem to be mainly crooks?

>As has been well documented, friends of the City seem to be able to get
>extremely favourable UNDER-ASSESSMENTS on THEIR properties, while 
>the average citizen has their property OVER-ASSESSED to make up for the
>shortfall!!

>Yes, the city website was operational in May and June, which allowed some of
>us the opportunity to get the PROOF, which will be used in the ARB city tax
>appeals, to PROVE GROSS OR CRIMINAL IRREGULARITIES by the city tax staffers!

>One must wonder, for whom is Merle Foresth working, since he seems to not care
>about massive irregularities!!


>On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 09:03:12 -0600, KenMcVayAIDS 
>wrote:

>>Newsgroups: edm.general, edm.politics, ab.general, calgary.general
>>From: "Brian Boulanger" 
>>Date: 30 Jun 2005 08:02:40 -0700
>>Local: Thurs,Jun 30 2005 10:02 am
>>Subject: Re: $Half MILLION Underassessed By City Tax Dept.-Heads to
>>Roll!!

>>You are completely correct.
>>Unfortunately, the bureaucrats on the city payroll trough have
>>consistently opposed any review, such as Zero Based Budgetting, or MBO
>>Management by Objectives, or any means of quantifying or/and justifying
>>their jobs!
>
>>They know, that if the top 50% of all bureaucrats were fired, there
>>would be absolutely no loss in the actual performance of the city
>>departments.
>
>>In fact, rumour is that performance, and cost/benefit would
>>dramatically improve!!
>
>>
>>Take the local cops for example. We pay seniors there from $120,000 to
>>$180,000 each,plus benefits. All are supposedly fluent in English.
>>Yet they waste over ONE MILLION DOLLARS for their BS hacks and flacks,
>>because they do not want to address the media themselves, but would
>>rather engage in empire building! The million wasted could go instead
>>to hiring some honest cops!
>>
>>As for the council members, there is only one - Mike Nickel - who
>>actually runs a real business, and even he was forced to move it out of
>>
>>Edmonton to Leduc!! The rest of council are all parasites, and lazy
>>ne'er-do-wells.
>>
>>Newsgroups: edm.general, edm.politics, ab.general, calgary.general
>>From: f...@bouncemail.ca - Find messages by this author
>>Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 21:29:23 GMT
>>Local: Fri,Jul 1 2005 4:29 pm
>>Subject: Re: $Half MILLION Underassessed By City Tax Dept.-Heads to
>>Roll!!
>>On 30 Jun 2005 08:02:40 -0700, "Brian Boulanger"  wrote:
>>>You are completely correct.
>>>Unfortunately, the bureaucrats on the city payroll trough have
>>>consistently opposed any review, such as Zero Based Budgetting, or MBO
>>>Management by Objectives, or any means of quantifying or/and justifying
>>>their jobs!
>>
>>>They know, that if the top 50% of all bureaucrats were fired, there
>>>would be absolutely no loss in the actual performance of the city
>>>departments.
>>
>>I believe you and actually have no doubt of this myself.
>>
>>>In fact, rumour is that performance, and cost/benefit would dramatically
>>>improve!!
>>
>>No doubt, look at all the duplication of services we now have. No
>>wonder it is more expensive to buy anything in Canada today then it is
>>to shop in the States. All people have to do is go to the web sites of
>>any governmnent and check out all the departments. See if there is any
>>overlap. Also, one has to take into consideration the use of
>>computers. Seems to me that it takes just as long to push paperwork
>>through as it did when I used to type on a standard typewriter. One
>>should ask themselves why? Too many hands....
>>
>>
>>>Take the local cops for example. We pay seniors there from $120,000 to
>>>$180,000 each,plus benefits. All are supposedly fluent in English.
>>>Yet they waste over ONE MILLION DOLLARS for their BS hacks and flacks,
>>>because they do not want to address the media themselves, but would
>>>rather engage in empire building! The million wasted could go instead
>>>to hiring some honest cops!
>>
>>I am not to sure what you mean here.
>>WHY SHOULD TAXPAYERS HAVE TO [AY MORE THAN A MILLION DOLLARS FOR A BS
>>SECTION AT POLICE HQ, WHEN WE ALREADY OVERPAY THE TOP COPS?!!
>>For what the chief and his deputy goons get paid, they should do their
>>own talking to the media, or else continue lying as their predecessors
>>did, until fired!!
>>
>>>As for the council members, there is only one - Mike Nickel - who
>>>actually runs a real business, and even he was forced to move it out of
>>>Edmonton to Leduc!! The rest of council are all parasites, and lazy
>>>ne'er-do-wells.
>>
>>With all the deductions that businesses get from the federal
>>government in income tax why did Mike Nickel have to move his business
>>to Leduc?
>>
>>PROBABLY BECAUSE THERE IS TOO MUCH ANTI-BUSINESS RED TAPE FOR ANY
>>HONEST BUSINESS TRYING TO SURVIVE IN DEADMONTON?
>>
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On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 04:32:48 GMT, Sew  wrote:
>On 30 Mar 2006 02:15:16 -0000, Dump The Crooks 
>wrote:

>>Canadian Taxpayers Association has exposed what many Edmonton taxpayers have
>>long suspected.

>>Because the city council and mayor pay themselves by having one third TAXFREE,
>>unlike most honest taxpayers, they are in fact way overpaid for the scams they
>>are endorsing.

>>CTA have confirmed that city councillors are in fact getting the equivalent of
>>$85,110 per year, which is more than other cities are paying.

>>The mayor is seriously overpaid, getting the equivalent of $167,870 a year!!
>>This means that the mayor of Deadmonton gets $6,000 more than Ralph Klein,
>>Premier of Alberta!!

>>Time to dump ALL the mayor and Council, and replace them with honest, hard-working
>>councillors getting a basic pay of $52,000 a year - PLUS BONUSES BASED ON LOWER TAXES
>>AND BETTER PERFORMANCE OF CITY ESSENTIAL FUNCTIONS!

>>At the same time, Council should implement ZBB - Zero Based Budgetting, and fire
>>all unnecessary city managers, and close down non-appropriate city departments.
>>Let the federal and provincial governments operate those functions which are THEIR responsibilities, 
>>such as arts, sports,multiculuralism, and welfare, to name a few.

>>Sharx, Sew, Grosvenor - care to comment?

>I am in TOTAL AGREEMENT. I am tired of politicians thinking they can
>just run for office and then increase homeowners taxes just so they
>can give themselves more and more raises. It is NOT RIGHT no matter
>who they are paying to say that it is. The cost of living in Edmonton
>is way lower than Calgary or Toronto, there are fewer people living in
>Edmonton, and most of all which of the people that are running this
>city have a university degree?? After all, in order to make that kind
>of money most people NEED to have a university degree. 

You do not need to have a university degree to be a capable administrator of
billions of dollars.

You should at least be a successful BUSINESS OWNER.
Out of current 13 clowns on council, apparaently only Mike Nickel owns a
successful business.

Further, council members should be HONEST, and not support corruption and
criminality, and similar. This council went so far as to give a payoff of HALF
A MILLION DOLLARS to the former disgraced chief cop, who had been fired for
just cause!!

No honest, competent business managers would have colluded as they did!!



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The Guardian Angels group, headed by their leader, arrived yesterday in
Edmonton, Canada.

They had been invited by a local citizen, who had become disgusted with the
rising crime, compounded by all the scandals involving crooked police.

Even the previous police chief was fired for just cause.
Now, the new chief cop is annoyed that an outside source has been 
called in to do some of his functions.

The artsie-fartsie mayor is also annoyed, since it gives bad international
publicity to Deadmonton.


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On 8 Dec 2005 23:03:36 GMT, Wally Cleaver  wrote:

>On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 20:57:13 -0000, <11ph7h9mknc6k94@corp.supernews.com>
>kmcvay@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
>>In article <1642514.PtBnYVMG7h@Xn1>, 127.0.0.1 <127.0.0.1@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>>Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:
>>>> In article <1134066915.228014.96670@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
>>>> Schorsch  wrote:
>>>>>Kenny McVay wrote:

>>>> nothing worth reading

>>>About the famous "gas chamber" in the Auschwitz I camp, Conan writes: 

>>http://www.nizkor.org/faqs/auschwitz/auschwitz-faq-04.html

>>As to Dr. Piper's response to David Cole, see his letter to the Daily Texan:

>>Archive/File: people/p/piper.franciszek/press/daily.texan.1093
>>Last-Modified: 1994/11/12
>>
>>
>>                                                     ogwiqcim, October21,1993
>>                Dr Franciszek Piper
>>                Pa'nstwowe Muzeum
>>                32-603 Ogwiecim -Poland

>The above could be a forgery seeing how it is at your website which I have
>proven deals in forgeries!

>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/56a1a43fe4f9d61d?fwc=1
>Subject: The Nizkor Project Deals in Forged Documents and Smear Financed With
>Exempt Donations V3-2  T_0929
>Message-ID: 
>Date: 29 Sep 2005 15:34:29 GMT

>								Tavish
>
>     ~~Ken McVay Lying About His Financing Via S.A.A.F. Nizkor Fund~~
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/19272a44fd2c3cec?fwc=1
>From: kmcvay@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
>Subject: STILL Waiting for Donnie..... (Or "Bradbury: Wrong Again")
>Date: 5 Jan 2001 00:32:08 GMT
>Organization: The Nizkor Project
>Message-ID: <9334m8$1nm1$1@news.tht.net>
>(Archived locally as: McVayEXHIBIT1)
>Mr. Bradbury, wishing to demonstrate how ill-equipped he is to deal with
>evidence of any sort... What Mr. Bradbury has failed to demonstrate is that The
>Nizkor Project, which I direct, has any association whatsoever with the "San
>Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund." That is because Mr. Bradbury is not very
>bright... Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any money
>from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund" 
>
>
>As for Ken McVay's bold faced lie: "What Mr. Bradbury has failed to demonstrate
>is that The Nizkor Project, which I direct, has any association whatsoever with
>the San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund." BUT I have "demonstrated" the
>association between the Nizkor Project and the San Antonio Area Foundation -
>Nizkor Fund and all with Ken McVay's very own words below!
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/7ed1cee6db046212
>(Archived locally as: SAAF_3)
>From: kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
>Subject: American funding for the Nizkor Project
>Date: 1996/06/15
>Message-ID: <4pvl6g$ctm@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
>organization: The Nizkor Project
>
>In the United States, checks in support of the work of The
>Nizkor Project should be made payable to:
>   SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund
>and should be mailed to:
>	San Antonio Area Foundation
>	Nizkor Fund
>	P.O. Box 120366
>	San Antonio, TX 78212-9566
>
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e6e8f845002483a1
>(Archived locally as: SAAF_1)
>From: kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
>Subject: The Nizkor Project appreciates your support
>Date: 1996/09/05
>Message-ID: <50n608$9ds@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
>x-network: http://www.nizkor.org/
>organization: The Nizkor Project
>
>..In the United States, checks should be made payable to:
>	"SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund"
>and should be mailed to:
>	San Antonio Area Foundation
>	Nizkor Fund
>	P.O. Box 120366
>	San Antonio, TX 78212-9566
>We thank all of you who have sent your donations in support of the Nizkor
>Project. The funds you have provided have been used to provide substantial 
>improvements in service.
>
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/72d376fef3c983cf?fwc=1
>From: kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
>Subject: Nizkor Project financing and Kleinsorg's slandering Germans
>Date: 1996/06/15
>Message-ID: <4pvbkg$auc@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
>
>In article <31c2fa3a.16855786@news.annap.infi.net>, 
>hk@annap.infi.net (Horst Kleinsorg) wrote:
>
>>First tell us who is financing your Nizkor, then we perahps can
>>talk.
>
>Thank you for bringing that up, Mr. Kleinsorg. I am financed
>by thousands of "just plain folks" who wish to support my
>work... In the United States, they make their cheques payable to:
>	SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund
>and mail them to:
>	San Antonio Area Foundation
>	Nizkor Fund
>	P.O. Box 120366
>	San Antonio, TX 78212-9566
>...By the way, Mr. Kleinsorg... now that I have responded openly
>and honestly to your question, perhaps you can tell us what
>difference it makes who finances my work... I fail to see
>how my financing changes that.
>
>
>"[W]hen you're living a lie, the lie has to get more complicated-they're always
>contradicting themselves...so that the lie itself becomes self-evident."
>-- Ken McVay, director of the Nizkor Project
>http://www.peacemagazine.org/fulltext/all-vol13no2.html
>(Link active November 20, 2003. Archived locally as: peacenik13_2)



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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:06:33 -0500, Tommy  wrote:

>The Numbers Decline, The Controversy Increases 
>Multiple Sources
>1-21-5

>It is past time for an international investigation conducted by truly
>impartial scientists, researchers and scholars into the reality of
>Auschwitz to properly and as accurately as possible bring history into
>accord with the facts. Peoples of all religions and persuasions have a
>right to such facts. So far, as the following data demonstrates, we are a
>long way from a consensus on the truth of what happened at Auschwitz in
>WWII. 
 
>9,000,000 
>  
>Source: Cited by the French documentary, Night and Fog, which has been shown
>to millions of school students worldwide. 
 
>8,000,000 
 
>Source: The French War Crime Research Office, Doc. 31, 1945. 
 
>7,000,000 
>  
>Source: Also cited by the French War Crime Research Office. 
>  
>6,000,000 
>  
>Source: Cited in the book Auschwitz Doctor by Miklos Nyiszli. It has since
>been proven that this book is a fraud and the "doctor" was never even at
>Auschwitz, even though the book is often cited by historians. 
>  
>5,000,000 to 5,500,000 
>  
>Source: Cited in 1945 at the trial of Auschwitz commander Rudolf Höss, based
>on his confession which was written in English, a language he never spoke. 
>  
>5,000,000 
>  
>Source: Cited on April 20, 1978 by the French daily, Le Monde. Also cited on
>January 23, 1995 by the German daily Die Welt. By September 1, 1989, Le
>Monde reduced the figure to 1,433,000. 
>  
>4,500,000 
>  
>Source: In 1945 this figure was cited by another witness at the
>aforementioned Höss trial. 
>  
>4,000,000 
>  
>Source: Cited by a Soviet document of May 6, 1945 and officially
>acknowledged by the Nuremberg War Crimes trial. This figure was also
>reported in The New York Times on April 18, 1945, although 50 years later
>on January 26, 1995, The New York Times and The Washington Post slashed the
>figure to 1,500,000 citing new findings by the Auschwitz Museum officials.
>In fact, the figure of 4,000,000 was later repudiated by the Auschwitz
>museum officials in 1990 but the figure of 1,500,000 victims was not
>formally announced by Polish President Lech Walesa until five years after
>the Auschwitz historians had first announced their discovery. 
>  
>3,500,000 
>  
>Source: Cited in the 1991 edition of the Dictionary of the French Language
>and by Claude Lanzmann in 1980 in his introduction to Filip Muller's book,
>Three Years in an Auschwitz Gas Chamber. 
>  
>3,000,000 
>  
>Source: Cited in a forced confession by Rudolf Höss, the Auschwitz commander
>who said this was the number of those who had died at Auschwitz prior to
>Dec. 1, 1943. Later cited in the June 7, 1993 issue of Heritage, the most
>widely read Jewish newspaper in California, even though three years
>previously the authorities at the Auschwitz museum had scaled down the
>figure to a minimum of 1,100,000 and a maximum of 1,500,000. (see below). 
>  
>2,500,000 
>  
>Source: Cited by Rudolf Vrba (an author of various fraudulent accounts of
>events he claims to have witnessed at Auschwitz) when he testified on July
>16, 1981 for the Israeli government's war crimes trial of former SS
>official Adolf Eichmann. 
>  
>2,000,000 
>  
>Source: Cited by Leon Poliakov (1951) writing in Harvest of Hate; Georges
>Wellers, writing in 1973 in The Yellow Star at the Time of Vichy; and Lucy
>Dawidowicz, writing in 1975 in The War Against the Jews. 
>  
>2,000,000 to 4,000,000 
>  
>Source: Cited by Yehuda Bauer in 1982 in his book, A History of the
>Holocaust. However, by 1989 Bauer revised his figure to 1,600,000. 
>  
>1,600,000 
>  
>Source: This is a 1989 revision by Yehuda Bauer of his earlier figure in
>1982 of 2,000,000 to 4,000,000, Bauer cited this new figure on September
>22, 1989 in The Jerusalem Post, at which time he wrote "The larger figures
>have been dismissed for years, except that it hasn't reached the public
>yet." 
>  
>1,500,000 
>  
>Source: In 1995 this was the number of Auschwitz deaths announced by Polish
>President Lech Walesa as determined by those at the Auschwitz museum. This
>number was inscribed on the monument at the Auschwitz camp at that time,
>thereby "replacing" the earlier 4,000,000 figure that had been formally
>repudiated (and withdrawn from the monument) five years earlier in 1990. At
>that time, on July 17, 1990 The Washington Times reprinted a brief article
>from The London Daily Telegraph citing the "new" figure of 1,500,000 that
>had been determined by the authorities at the Auschwitz museum. This new
>figure was reported two years later in a UPI report published in the New
>York Post on March 26, 1992. On January 26, 1995 both The Washington Post
>and The New York Times cited this 1,500,000 figure as the new "official"
>figure (citing the Auschwitz Museum authorities). 
>  
>1,471,595 
>  
>Source: This is a 1983 figure cited by Georges Wellers who (as noted
>previously) had determined, writing in 1973, that some 2,000,000 had died. 
>  
>1,433,000 
>  
>Source: This figure was cited on September 1, 1989 by the French daily, Le
>Monde, which earlier, on April 20, 1978, had cited the figure at 4,000,000. 
>  
>1,250,000 
>  
>Source: In the book, The Destruction of the European Jews, by Raul Hilberg
>(1985). 
>  
>1,100,000 to 1,500,000 
>  
>Source: Sources for this estimate are Yisrael Gutman and Michael Berenbaum
>in their 1984 book, Anatomy of the Auschwitz Death Camp. This estimate was
>later also cited by Walter Reich, former director of the U.S. Holocaust
>Memorial Museum, writing in The Washington Post on September 8, 1998. The
>upper figure of 1,500,000 is (the new) "official" figure as now inscribed
>at Auschwitz, with the earlier figure of 4,000,000 having been removed from
>the memorial at the site of the former concentration camp. 
>  
>1,000,000 
>  
>Source: Jean-Claude Pressac, writing in his 1989 book Auschwitz: Technique
>and Operation of the Gas Chambers. This is interesting since he wrote his
>book to repudiate so-called "Holocaust deniers" who were called that
>precisely because they had questioned the numbers of those who had died at
>Auschwitz. 
>  
>900,000 
>  
>Source: Reported on August 3, 1990 11, by Aufbau, a Jewish newspaper in New
>York. 
>  
>800,000 to 900,000 
>  
>Source: Reported by Gerald Reitlinger in his book, The Final Solution. 
>  
>775,000 to 800,000 
>  
>Source: Jean-Claude Pressac's revised figure, put forth in his 1993 book,
>The Crematoria of Auschwitz: The Mass Murder's Machinery, scaling down his
>earlier claim of 1,000,000 dead. 
>  
>630,000 to 710,000 
>  
>Source: In 1994 Pressac scaled his figure down somewhat further; this is the
>figure cited in the German language translation of Pressac's 1993 book
>originally published in French. Again, this is substantially less than
>Pressac's 1989 figure of 1,000,000. 
>  
>135,000 to 140,000 
>  
>Source: This is an estimate based on documents held by the International
>Tracing Service of the Red Cross. It is known that International Tracing
>Service has a complete set of registration documents. This is thought to
>include a complete set of roll-call data which includes twice daily tallies
>of those who died. Although the International Tracing Service of the Red
>Cross has such records, they have never officially published an accurate
>count of those who died, or even an accurate report as to exactly which
>documents they hold. However, totals from these records have been obtained
>by various interested parties. 
>  
>The estimate of 135,500 is roughly corroborated by the "Auschwitz death
>books." The death books themselves are wartime German camp records, which
>were captured by the Soviets towards the end of the war, and hidden in
>Soviet achieves, until released to the Red Cross in 1989. 
>  
>The death books consist of 46 volumes which document each death at Auschwitz
>(each death certificate consists of the deceased person's full name,
>profession and religion, date and place of birth, pre-Auschwitz residence,
>parents' names, time of death, and cause of death as determined by a camp
>physician). The records for the most important years, 1942 and 1943, are
>almost complete (there are also a few volumes for the year 1941, but none
>for the year 1944 or January 1945 (when Auschwitz was evacuated)). 
>  
>The Auschwitz death books contain the death certificates of some 69,000
>individuals, of whom about 30,000 were listed as Jews. You may view various
>entries in the Auschwitz Death Books by clicking on the following links to
>the Auschwitz museum: 
>  
>Using all available wartime records from the various camps it has been
>estimated that between 400,000 and 
>500,000 people died in the German concentration camp system (from all
>causes). 
>  
>The ever declining numbers of alleged dead at Auschwitz, are graphically
>illustrated by the plaques from the camp. 
>  
>The first is the plaque that was on display at the Auschwitz camp from 1948
>until 1989 and states "4 million" victims. 
>  
>The second plaque currently on display at Auschwitz has the dramatically
>reduced number of victims, now only 1.5 million. 
>  
>A casual reduction in the number of deaths by some 2.5 million. 
>  
>Deaths at Auschwitz drop by a stunning 2.5 million, but the legendary
>6,000,000 figure remains the same.
>http://www.rense.com/general62/auch.htm



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On 30 Sep 2004 18:41:39 -0000,  Student Woes wrote:

>Students complaining about exorbitantly high tuition fees
>should be complaining about all the deadwood profs on
>tenure, drawing obscenely high wages and benefits!!

>So-called professors giving unwanted and useless courses
>to 17 so-called students, (most of whom are natives having
>costs paid by taxpayers,) while drawing $120,000 or so in
>wages, is unfair to poor students struggling to pay for
>tuition, books, other fees, and of course living expenses
>such as rent and food.

>If the students would finally get angry enough to force
>university administrations to ABOLISH TENURE, then perhaps
>tuition fees would actually drop to a more acceptable level.

>Why not abolish all tenured profs, if they can not find enough
>suckers to pay the costs of their wages,class facilities and all
>the other costs connected to having a particular program. In other
>words, have only courses that students who must pay, actually want.

>If the courses are not useful to graduates in obtaining
>worthwhile employment, then the university should not be
>having useless profs sucking at the public teat, to the
>increased cost to students as well.

>How many so-called university graduates are good only for
>a part-time job at McGrungy's, because the courses for
>which they got ripped-off, are not worth anything in the
>real world of employment!!

>FIRE ALL THE USELESS PROFS, [especially those that are PC]
>and let them try to earn a living in the real world.Most of
>these profs would probably have to go on welfare!!



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At least the government of Indonesia know what to do with garbage people, such
as drug dealers.

They know, as do other sensible governments in the area, that an executed
criminal will never re-offend!!

Further, an executed waste of skin, will not cost the taxpayers for the upkeep
in some pampering prison system!!

If only the justice systems in Australia & North America would follow suit!!!
Oz could start by executing the 4 Canadian drug trafickers it just arrested!!


On 17 Feb 2006 18:43:24 -0800, "LifeManTalking"  wrote:

>AUSTRALIA - Few Australians have much sympathy for Andrew Chan and
>Myuran Sukumaran, the two drug traffickers sentenced to death in Bali
>this week for their failed bid to smuggle more than 8kg of heroin on to
>the streets of Sydney.

>The lives of too many of their young people have been destroyed by
>drugs and, as innumerable letters to newspapers and callers to talkback
>radio have pointed out, Chan and Sukumaran could never have been in any
>doubt of the risk they took in running narcotics through Indonesia.

>But the prospect of the pair being taken from Kerobokan jail, tied to a
>tree in some lonely clearing, and shot by a paramilitary firing squad
>raises deep and disturbing moral, political and diplomatic dilemmas for
>a nation that last executed a criminal almost 40 years ago and now
>opposes the death penalty worldwide.

>Their own police provided the information that inevitably led to
>Tuesday's sentence. Their Government welcomed the death penalty given
>to the Bali bombers but opposes the same fate for Australian drug
>traffickers, and public opinion is repulsed by the prospect of
>executions at home but inconsistently accepts them abroad.

>It is a diplomatic minefield that Canberra traversed when
>Vietnamese-born Melburnian Van Tuong Nguyen was hanged in Singapore in
>December for taking heroin through Changi airport, despite Australian
>appeals for clemency.

>It is also a minefield that the nation will confront time and again:
>despite repeated warnings and the appalling reality of executions,
>there will always be people foolish enough to strap drugs to their
>bodies or conceal it in their luggage.

>Almost all will pass through Southeast Asia, the source of most of
>Australia's heroin (the Bali Nine consignment originated in Thailand)
>and where every country but Cambodia compulsorily hangs, shoots or
>lethally injects traffickers.

>Mike Phelan, the head of international operations for the Australian
>Federal Police and the man responsible for giving Indonesia the
>information it needed to arrest the Bali Nine, sees no end to the queue
>of couriers the trade calls "mules".

>"It continues to astound me that people attempt importations and move
>drugs through transit countries knowing that the death penalty exists,"
>he told ABC's Australian Story. "Many young lives get thrown away for
>the law of quick dollars."

>The AFP's role in the arrest of the Bali Nine is among the most
>sensitive of the issues facing Prime Minister John Howard, who has
>already weathered a barrage of criticism that has extended even into
>his own party room.

>The AFP caught the first whispers of a major heroin importing run in
>February last year and, in April, asked the Indonesian police to help
>uncover the members of the syndicate and the source of their supplies.

>Between them, the two forces discovered most of the names and built a
>remarkably accurate picture of their operation, including details of a
>previous successful run and another aborted attempt.

>This co-operation has become increasingly commonplace, spurred by the
>determination of all countries in the region to attack drug trafficking
>and terrorism. Intelligence swapping is required under a number of
>treaties.

>"We make no secret of the fact that the AFP has a policy of forward
>engagement where we want to stop the crimes at the source and (prevent
>them) from reaching Australian shores," Phelan said. "That's a practice
>we will continue to operate within."

>What worries many Australians is the fact that the AFP in effect turned
>over a group of young Australians to a country it knew was likely to
>execute them, rather than arresting them when they arrived home.

>The most emotional response centred on Scott Rush, 20, a drug mule who
>was jailed for life. His family, through lawyer Bob Myers, vainly asked
>the AFP to warn Rush of their interest before he left Australia.

>"No Australian public servant has the right to expose any Australian
>citizen to the death penalty," Myers told Australian Story.

>Rush and fellow mules Renae Lawrence, Martin Stephens and Michael
>Czugaj took the AFP to the Federal Court, claiming it had acted
>illegally by exposing them to the death penalty.

>While a large part of public opinion agreed, the court dismissed the
>action.

>The Government has also sidestepped criticism, pointing out that while
>the relevant treaty with Indonesia contains a clause allowing the
>Attorney-General to refuse to provide evidence if an Australian was
>charged with an offence carrying the death penalty, the AFP was free to
>do as it thought best until charges were laid.

>By the time the Bali Nine were formally charged, all the damaging
>evidence had been gathered.

>Phelan is unrepentant: "Basically all transit countries through which
>drugs come to Australia have the death penalty. The AFP cannot pick and
>choose who it chooses to cooperate with."

>International teamwork in the past few years has significantly reduced
>the flow of drugs into Australia. The most recent Australian Crime
>Commission figures, for 2003-04, show the lowest seizures of heroin for
>a decade.

>Refusal to co-operate abroad would outrage regional governments and
>threaten mutual action against other drug syndicates and terrorism.

>Public opinion in Southeast Asia also strongly favours the death
>penalty for traffickers, with polls in Singapore and Thailand showing
>support of up to 80 per cent.

>In Australia, opinion is more confused. A Morgan poll in November found
>that while only 27 per cent of Australians favoured the death penalty
>for murder, 57 per cent believed drug traffickers caught in Asia should
>die.

>Yet in the specific case of Van Nguyen, opinion was evenly divided.

>In The Australian, a newspoll found that more than 50 per cent of
>Australians favoured the death sentence for people convicted of major
>acts of terrorism.

>Howard now has to weigh all these conflicting factors in framing
>Canberra's approach to the executions of Chan and Sukumaran. He has
>said publicly he has no sympathy for the two men but will vigorously
>pursue Australia's long-standing opposition to the death penalty.

>How that is carried out will test Australian diplomacy.

>Apart from the risks to a fragile relationship, observers have pointed
>out that any blunt approach will almost certainly stiffen backs in
>Jakarta and end any chance of clemency.

>Hopes of saving Chan and Sukumaran now rest with Indonesia's
>inconsistent record in carrying out executions, the fact that in recent
>times only three of the more than 85 prisoners on death row have been
>shot, and the lengthy legal road still to be travelled.

>It may be years before their case moves through the Denpasar provincial
>High Court and the two reviews possible through the Supreme Court in
>Jakarta.

>And though President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono has said he will never
>grant clemency to drug traffickers, time and quiet diplomacy may change
>his mind.

>Death penalty Australia's double dilemma 
>
>18.02.06
>By Greg Ansley



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One must wonder, how much is WEM DELIBERATELY UNDER-ASSESSED, 
compared to all the financing registered on the property?

Is someone in the city tax assessment department still on the take?

Will Scott Hennig soon have another news story for the media, this time about
WEM?


On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 09:11:49 -0700, Chief Instigator 
wrote:

Next installment and exposure of city tax department irregularities will be
before the ARB on 31st August 2006

>Can't get to MGB sooner, because of flood of appeals filed against crooked
>Edmonton tax department!!
>Seems I am not the only one proving they are crooks.

>Again, will be exposed for all to see, the evidence proving the City allowed
>the lawyer owning the property at 13723 - 93 St. to be deliberately
>underassessed by HALF A MILLION DOLLARS each year, for 8 years!

>In retaliation, the city assessors incresed the assessment of the man who
>exposed their graft by 4 TIMES THAT OF HIS NEIGHBOURS!!

>Notice that Bob Welldumb can not argue the FACTS!
>Is he one of the beneficiaries of the crooks in the city tax department?
>One must wonder why he is so sore about the lawyer finally being forced 
>to pay his proper share of city taxes!!

>Even the City Auditor is admitting he is aware of serious problems in certain
>departments, and is recommending an anonymous "snitch line" to save the 
>City many millions.

>He could start with the city tax assessment section, obviously!!
>Why should Grosvenor who is not paid by the city, have to do the work 
>of the overpaid city employees, who seem to be mainly crooks?

>As has been well documented, friends of the City seem to be able to get
>extremely favourable UNDER-ASSESSMENTS on THEIR properties, while 
>the average citizen has their property OVER-ASSESSED to make up for the
>shortfall!!

>Yes, the city website was operational in May and June, which allowed some of
>us the opportunity to get the PROOF, which will be used in the ARB city tax
>appeals, to PROVE GROSS OR CRIMINAL IRREGULARITIES by the city tax staffers!

>One must wonder, for whom is Merle Foresth working, since he seems to not care
>about massive irregularities!!


>On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 09:03:12 -0600, KenMcVayAIDS 
>wrote:

>>Newsgroups: edm.general, edm.politics, ab.general, calgary.general
>>From: "Brian Boulanger" 
>>Date: 30 Jun 2005 08:02:40 -0700
>>Local: Thurs,Jun 30 2005 10:02 am
>>Subject: Re: $Half MILLION Underassessed By City Tax Dept.-Heads to
>>Roll!!

>>You are completely correct.
>>Unfortunately, the bureaucrats on the city payroll trough have
>>consistently opposed any review, such as Zero Based Budgetting, or MBO
>>Management by Objectives, or any means of quantifying or/and justifying
>>their jobs!
>
>>They know, that if the top 50% of all bureaucrats were fired, there
>>would be absolutely no loss in the actual performance of the city
>>departments.
>
>>In fact, rumour is that performance, and cost/benefit would
>>dramatically improve!!
>
>>
>>Take the local cops for example. We pay seniors there from $120,000 to
>>$180,000 each,plus benefits. All are supposedly fluent in English.
>>Yet they waste over ONE MILLION DOLLARS for their BS hacks and flacks,
>>because they do not want to address the media themselves, but would
>>rather engage in empire building! The million wasted could go instead
>>to hiring some honest cops!
>>
>>As for the council members, there is only one - Mike Nickel - who
>>actually runs a real business, and even he was forced to move it out of
>>
>>Edmonton to Leduc!! The rest of council are all parasites, and lazy
>>ne'er-do-wells.
>>
>>Newsgroups: edm.general, edm.politics, ab.general, calgary.general
>>From: f...@bouncemail.ca - Find messages by this author
>>Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 21:29:23 GMT
>>Local: Fri,Jul 1 2005 4:29 pm
>>Subject: Re: $Half MILLION Underassessed By City Tax Dept.-Heads to
>>Roll!!
>>On 30 Jun 2005 08:02:40 -0700, "Brian Boulanger"  wrote:
>>>You are completely correct.
>>>Unfortunately, the bureaucrats on the city payroll trough have
>>>consistently opposed any review, such as Zero Based Budgetting, or MBO
>>>Management by Objectives, or any means of quantifying or/and justifying
>>>their jobs!
>>
>>>They know, that if the top 50% of all bureaucrats were fired, there
>>>would be absolutely no loss in the actual performance of the city
>>>departments.
>>
>>I believe you and actually have no doubt of this myself.
>>
>>>In fact, rumour is that performance, and cost/benefit would dramatically
>>>improve!!
>>
>>No doubt, look at all the duplication of services we now have. No
>>wonder it is more expensive to buy anything in Canada today then it is
>>to shop in the States. All people have to do is go to the web sites of
>>any governmnent and check out all the departments. See if there is any
>>overlap. Also, one has to take into consideration the use of
>>computers. Seems to me that it takes just as long to push paperwork
>>through as it did when I used to type on a standard typewriter. One
>>should ask themselves why? Too many hands....
>>
>>
>>>Take the local cops for example. We pay seniors there from $120,000 to
>>>$180,000 each,plus benefits. All are supposedly fluent in English.
>>>Yet they waste over ONE MILLION DOLLARS for their BS hacks and flacks,
>>>because they do not want to address the media themselves, but would
>>>rather engage in empire building! The million wasted could go instead
>>>to hiring some honest cops!
>>
>>I am not to sure what you mean here.
>>WHY SHOULD TAXPAYERS HAVE TO [AY MORE THAN A MILLION DOLLARS FOR A BS
>>SECTION AT POLICE HQ, WHEN WE ALREADY OVERPAY THE TOP COPS?!!
>>For what the chief and his deputy goons get paid, they should do their
>>own talking to the media, or else continue lying as their predecessors
>>did, until fired!!
>>
>>>As for the council members, there is only one - Mike Nickel - who
>>>actually runs a real business, and even he was forced to move it out of
>>>Edmonton to Leduc!! The rest of council are all parasites, and lazy
>>>ne'er-do-wells.
>>
>>With all the deductions that businesses get from the federal
>>government in income tax why did Mike Nickel have to move his business
>>to Leduc?
>>
>>PROBABLY BECAUSE THERE IS TOO MUCH ANTI-BUSINESS RED TAPE FOR ANY
>>HONEST BUSINESS TRYING TO SURVIVE IN DEADMONTON?
>>
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On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 13:41:58 GMT, "Robert Weldon"
 wrote:
>"LordTweedsmuir"  wrote in message 
>news:t0i5h2lh1pjjed4tejrdmg2t19lk6ob6p2@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 14:10:19 GMT, "Robert Weldon"
>>  wrote:
>>>"JulesKarst"  wrote in message
>>>news:4W7MAS2038980.4661226852@twistycreek.com...
>>>> It seems that the disgusting AIDS-infected pervert is now using several
>>>> other aliases.
>>>> It thinks that by constantly changing names, it will avoid detection.
>>>> No wonder his wife and girl had to leave him!!
>>>> Time to exterminate such vermin, what?

>> So Weldon you are still stealing internet services from your employer, JR
>> Paine & Associates?

>> Hopefully they will fire you when the boss gets enough complaints sent to 
>> him at: jrp@jrp.ca.

>I am not stealing anything, you racist namechanging asshole. Stop trying to 
>deflect. 


When you use internet during your paid work hours, without official permission
>from your employer, that constitutes THEFT OF CORPORATE ASSETS,



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Not only do the stupid canucks have to worry about getting killed by the
enemy, now they also have to worry about their so-called "FRIENDS", the
doped-up yanks, killing them by FRIENDLY FIRE"!!  AGAIN!!

On 11 Aug 2006 19:53:42 -0700, "Jonsa"  wrote:
>WyattEarp wrote:
>> Almost 30 dead Canucks admitted so far, apart from hundreds admitted
>> injured - all for USA & Israel!!

>> How many will it take to bring all the rest of the surviving Canadians
>> home?

>> On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 17:04:08 -0700, Brian Daily
>>  wrote:

>> >It's time to bring the troops home....

>> >http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/11/world/asia/11cnd-afghan.html?hp&ex=1155355200&en=2dfe995e2495db37&ei=5094&partner=homepage

>What a crock.

>The Canadian soldiers are not there for either USA or Israel. They are
>on behalf of CANADA.  we beleive in freedom and liberty. we believe
>that Islamo-facists are our enemies. we beleive that Afghanis should be
>able to live in security and peace with justice, equality and liberty.
>we believe that Afghanistan can at least rise to the 20th century. We
>beleive that terrorists are scum and cannot be appeased.

>We are not neutral in the war against Islamo-facists. And we certainly
>take sides when the concepts of democracy and liberty are trashed by
>hate spewing, religiously perverse scumbags.

Canada has no legal status to be in Afghanistan.
Canada is not at war against Afghanistan.
Canada is only  there in support of the USA & Israel, who started the war,
so that is why stupid canucks die there!!

Make sure there are enough body bags for the many more to die there - 
for the USA & Israel!!


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On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 20:48:46 GMT, Chom Noamsky  wrote:
>John Galt wrote:
>> Roy wrote:
>>> JG: You are one cold fish.

>> The warmth was sucked from my bones, last tax season -- when the
>> liberal lefties took all my hard earned money as it is; so exscuse me
>> if I don' t support added taxation to rectify what amounts to other
>> peoples lifestyle choices.

>Your opinion epitomizes the folly of myopic conservatives - they fail to see
>long-term economic benefits of social welfare.  AIDS is here in our society
>and you can't unring a bell.  

>The course of action is:

>[1] spend a fortune treating the symptoms, as we are now

Waste of money.

>[2] finding a cure for the disease

Let those involved waste their own money.

>[3] stop all spending and hope the problem just goes away

If spending is stopped, perhaps all the diseased fags will just die, thereby
ending the problem.

>[4] the Galt solution - stand on the street corner giving morality lectures
>and passing judgment on the infected

>Which do you think is the most realistic solution?  

Isolating all the diseased fags on some arctic island, where they can either
live or die.

If necessary lease a gulag from Russia.



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The useless cops STILL HAVE NOT caught the serial killer of 107 women!!

Is this because it is one of them?

As former cop Quinn qrote: There is a conspiracy of silence, when it comes to
cops' wrongdoing"!


On 21 Aug 2006 15:35:08 -0700, "NoMoreCrap"  wrote:
>Jules Striker and his sock puppets wrote:
>
>> Regrettably, all the news reports are correct and TRUE.
>
>However, YOU distort the truth to suit your needs.
>
>> the Edmonton Journal
>> newspaper, as well as the TV stations hardly have a day pass, without
>> yet another expose of more police brutality!!
>
>Well, TODAY passed without one.
>
>Here's what the Journal reported on the cops today.
>
>edmontonjournal.com
>Published: Monday, August 21, 2006
>Edmonton Police made three arrests and discovered a cache of weapons
>after noticing a vehicle run a red light at the intersection of 104th
>Avenue and 101st Street Sunday morning.

>More on this at:  http://tinyurl.com/fno6f
>
>Time to tell the truth;
>NoMoreCrap



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On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 18:01:09 GMT, "Princeandy"  wrote:

51 Documents seems to represent a renewed attempt by Brenner to bring
information regarding Zionist collaboration with the Nazis to U.S.
supporters of Israel, as well as to Jews and Muslims, in order to
expand dialogue with knowledge, and save lives 'both Palestinian and
Israeli' in the process. Readers of 51 Documents will find it difficult not to
remove the rose colored glasses that so many seem to wear when examining
Zionism.

>http://www.marxists.de/middleast/brenner/ch06.htm

>Hitler was history's flail to drive the stiff-necked Jews back to their own
>kind and their own land

>How many times have we heard the impious wish uttered in despair over the
>apathy of American Jews to Zionism, that a Hitler descend upon them? Then
>they would realize the need for Palestine! ([6]

>However, defeating Jabotinsky's resolution did not necessarily mean that the
>delegates favoured a deal with Hitler and, when the Nazis announced that
>they had signed an agreement with the Zionists allowing German Jews to ship
>three million Reichmarks' worth of Jewish wealth to Palestine in the form of
>German export goods, much of the Congress dismissed the statement as a
>propaganda stunt. When the truth became clear, pandemonium broke loose. The
>leadership had completely miscalculated and genuinely expected the pact to
>be immensely popular. Now, stunned by the hostile opposition, they tried to
>protect themselves by outright lying; the Labour leader, Berl Locker,
>brazenly proclaimed: "the executive of the World Zionist Organisation had
>nothing to do with the negotiations which led to an agreement with the
>German government". [17] No one believed this crude fabrication

>Read the Red Cross reports. Go to the Red Cross museum, headquarters
> in your city and pick up the records. Anyway theres a few independent
> witnesses.
>> http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndstats.html

>http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=news_international&Numbe
>> r=293321480
>> http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/print.asp?ID=2735

>> http://www.rense.com/general69/factua.htm

>> Rassinier seems to wrap it up.
>> http://www.ihr.org/books/rassinier/debunking1-0.html

>During World WarII, Rassinier was a highly decorated member of the French
>Resistance. In October of 1943 he was arrested by the Gestapo for various
>activities including the smuggling of Jewish refugees over the Franco-Swiss
>border.  http://www.codoh.com/thoughtcrimes/PORT1RAS.HTML

>> http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v19/v19n2_Letters.html
>> On July 13, 1994, a documentary on the life of Charles A. Lindbergh
>> broadcast on the Public Broadcast System (PBS - KENW-TV) said that when
>> Lindbergh visited one of these few camps in Germany following WW2, he was
>> told that 25,000 died in 1-1/2 years
>> http://history.acusd.edu/gen/WW2Timeline/lindbergh3.html

>http://666ismoney.com/HolocaustAds.html
>I, Raquel Baranow am a Grad Student of Holocaust Denial. There are persons
>with PhD's in various fields who also deny the 6 million canard. The best evidence
> is forensic. Until recently, there was never a forensic examination of the alleged 
>murder weapon (gas chambers). Demographic figures are incomplete. After the fall
>of East Europe to communism, many of the millions of Jews who fled Poland
>into the Soviet Union or ended up behind the Iron Curtain changed their names 
>to assimilate, many civilians died in the war, many died in the
>concentration camps of louse-born typhus. During World War One, two million
>civilians in the Soviet Union died of typhus. Many died in Stalin's gulags.
>Yad Vashem,( http://www.yadvashem.org/wps/portal/IY_HON_Welcome)a Holocaust
>Documentation Center in Israel has a database of  3,000,000 alleged victims
>of  Nazi extermination. But as you can see HERE
>(http://666ismoney.com/YadVashem.html) (my maiden name, Friedemann), nearly
>every name is listed at least twice, some as many as five times!
>http://www.yadvashem.org/lwp/workplace/IY_HON_Welcome

>Yad Vashem's 3,000,000 "Holocaust victims" database lists nearly
>everyone twice. Some as many at five times. Anyone, including
>you can submit a "Page of Testimony".

>And of course we have lists duplicated, unconfirmed, but 3m according to our
>usual jewish/Zionist sources.

>Put your name in, you might be missing out on reparations.

>Has been improvements since this, numbers still very dicey.

>Name                                  Town          District          Region
>Country          Bday          Source

>Friedemann Adolf        Berlin         Berlin         Berlin         Germany
>1879         list of victims from Germany
>Friedemann Adolf        Berlin         Berlin         Berlin         Germany
>1879         list of deportation from Berlin
>Friedemann Adolf        Berlin         Berlin         Berlin         Germany
>1905         list of deportation from Berlin

>It is forensically impractical or impossible to exterminate millions with
>louse disinfestant (hydrogen cyanide gas) or diesel exhaust as alleged 
>by malicious "witnesses" or tortured confessors. There are no written orders for
>extermination. Aerial reconnaissance photographs of the concentration camps
>show no smoke and flames belching from the crematoria and pyres as alleged. 
>The photos and records show there was not enough coke or
>crematoria to cremate millions of corpses. The "witnesses" and confessors
>lied about how many minutes it takes to cremate a corpse. Diesel exhaust 
>does not contain significant amount of carbon monoxide to kill a human. If
>the Nazis wanted to kill millions they could have driven the coal fired
>train into a tunnel or quonset hut and gassed 'em with the exhaust from 
>the locomotive or used the exhaust from the crematoria. At Auschwitz, 
>during a typhus epidemic, up to 300 people died per day, hence the 
>crematoria, shaving of heads and requisitions for tons of
>Zyklon B louse disinfestant. HCN is a very dangerous, impractical, messy
>method for extermination.
>http://www.vho.org/
>The Holocaust Controversy A Case for open Debate
>The Gas Chambers are a fraud, a tourist attraction, slander, demonizing,
>impractical/impossible, malicious atrocity propaganda spread by the communists, 
>who hated Hitler and perpetrated by Jews, who were always
>looking for ways to get to the lands of milk and money. The Jews have
>extorted billions from the US Treasury, Germany, Swiss banks and insurance 
>companies on account of the Holohoax fraud. The Holohoax also makes
>those who fought Hitler feel like they did something good fighting the
>demon, Hitler instead of letting Hitler take
>on Stalin alone.

>A "liberal" person has an open mind. A bigot is irrational and obstinate.

>Without Jewish co operation through the zionists the Germans would never
>have had the resources to herd the Jews into the various camps. And the
>zionists made it impossible for the underground to trust the jews.
>Like elsewhere, the only people who had the information and the ear of the
>frightened Jewish population were the Judenrat. In this case the Judenrat
>comprised mainly the Zionist Federation members. Without their help the SS,
>with 19 officers and less than 90 men, plus a few hundred Hungarian police,
>could not have collected and controlled a million Jews, when they did not
>even know their whereabouts. Kastner and the others were left under no
>illusions. Eichmann told Joel Brand, one of the members of Kastner's
>committee, that he intended to send all Hungary's Jews to Auschwitz, before
>he even started the expulsions! He told them clearly that all these Jews
>will die, 12,000 a day, unless certain conditions were met.

>http://www.geocities.com/chabaan_2000/safad.HTM
>Is The same authors also describe co-operation between Zionist leaders and
>Eichmann. It is interesting to note that the extreme right-wing revisionists
>only chose wealthy Jews for emigration, whereas other Zionists insisted on
>taking only young and healthy Jews. Eichmann helped them to carry out these
>plans, in return for which the Zionist Organization paid large sums to the
>Nazis. As Kimche says about the Zionist delegates in Germany: They had not
>come to Germany to save Jews. That was not their job. When the Nazis began
>the systematic murder of Jews in 1941, the Zionists decided neither to
>support Jewish resistance in Europe, nor to attack the Nazis, nor to say
>anything about the mass liquidation of their fellow Jews. Their sole purpose
>was to save certain selected Jews as future settlers in Palestine. They were
>not interested in Jews who wished to stay in their home countries and fight
>the Nazis.

>God told the jews the earthly struggles facing them if they didn't
>follow his lead. Well, they didn't and will continue to face Gods
>promise.




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On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 20:21:43 GMT, "Robert Weldon"
 wrote:
>"LordTweedsmuir"  wrote in message 
>news:c818h25m7gf9b9f4oh5gi5rdksiv109uji@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 13:41:58 GMT, "Robert Weldon"
>>  wrote:
>>>"LordTweedsmuir"  wrote in message
>>>news:t0i5h2lh1pjjed4tejrdmg2t19lk6ob6p2@4ax.com...
>>>> On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 14:10:19 GMT, "Robert Weldon"
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>"JulesKarst"  wrote in message
>>>>>news:4W7MAS2038980.4661226852@twistycreek.com...
>>>>>> It seems that the disgusting AIDS-infected pervert is now using 
>>>>>> several other aliases.
>>>>>> It thinks that by constantly changing names, it will avoid detection.
>>>>>> No wonder his wife and girl had to leave him!!
>>>>>> Time to exterminate such vermin, what?

>>>> So Weldon you are still stealing internet services from your employer, 
>>>> JR Paine & Associates?

>>>> Hopefully they will fire you when the boss gets enough complaints sent 
>>>> to him at: jrp@jrp.ca.

>>>I am not stealing anything, you racist namechanging asshole. Stop trying 
>>>to deflect.

>> When you use internet during your paid work hours, without official  permission
>> from your employer, that constitutes THEFT OF CORPORATE ASSETS,


Glad to see that Welldon now ADMITS HE IS STEALING INTERNET SERVICE 
>FROM HIS EMPLOYER!!

He says he only is a thief when he is not supposed to be working!!
LOL

>In your demented view, to bad it bears no resemblance to reality.  Did it 
>ever occur to you that I am doing this in my free time?  Some people take a 
>coffee break, I call racist assholes on their crap. 




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Alan Baggett, any news that you have heard on the criminal charges against the
crooked Edmonton cops?


On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 03:00:58 GMT, Sew  wrote:
>On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 18:15:28 -0000, kmcvay@shell.vex.net (Kenneth
>McVay OBC) wrote:
>
>>In article ,
>>Sew   wrote:
>>>On 18 Dec 2005 19:18:02 -0000, Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header
>>>(CopsToJail) wrote:
>>>
>>>>It is time to send these crooked cops to prison, just to show that they get
>>>>no preferential treatment when it come to defrauding the tax department.
>>>>They should also be charged under the Criminal Code, with criminal conspiracy!!
>>>
>>>Wow! This reminds me of all those gangsters that made all that money
>>>but they could not beat the IRS...go get emmmm....to bad they let the
>>>bronfmans get away with all the millions and millions they owed in
>>>taxes in canada. Of course they to could have known Jean Cretian. 
>>
>>The Bronfmans owed "millions and millions in taxes" here? Will you document that, please?
>
>ooops, there are lots and lots of web pages carrying this info...just
>one more....
>
>
>
>TAXPAYER CHALLENGES GOV'T GIFT OF $700 MILLION TO WEALTHY BRONFMAN
>FAMILY 
>
>
>
>One of Canada's richest families is the focus of a Federal Court
>battle this week as a private citizen challenges hundreds of millions
>in favourable tax treatment given to the Bronfman family. 
>
>Revenue Canada is in the Federal Court of Appeal defending against
>George Harris, a Winnipeg office worker and social activist, who is
>contesting a loophole that allowed $2-billion in Bronfman family
>assets to escape the country tax free, in 1991. 
>
>"This case is about public confidence in the Canadian income tax
>system," Mr. Harris, a program officer for Canadian University
>Services Overseas (CUSO), asserts in his class-action lawsuit. 
>
>"Without general public acceptance of the integrity and fairness of
>our income tax regime, no amount of assessment and enforcement action
>by government will be able to protect the tax base and ensure the
>collection of essential public revenues." 
>
>The court challenge, being heard March 9th, comes amid persistent
>rumours that Edgar Bronfman Jr. is looking to sell Seagram Co. Ltd.,
>the Montreal-based liquor and entertainment giant. 
>
>Mr. Harris' three-year-old legal fight was prompted by a controversial
>tax ruling by Revenue Canada in 1991 that allowed the Bronfmans to
>move more than $2-billion worth of Seagram Co. stock, held in two
>family trusts, to the United States without paying capital gains tax.
>The decision allowed the family to avoid as much as $700-million in
>taxes. 
>
>Revenue Canada is appealing a January 1999 ruling by Federal Court
>Judge Francis Muldoon, who allowed the lawsuit to go ahead in the
>public interest, concluding that allowing the Bronfman billions to
>escape untaxed smacks of "favouritism" and "grave maladministration." 
>
>Government lawyers will challenge Judge Muldoon's decision by arguing
>Canada's tax system is based on "strict confidentiality" and Mr.
>Harris has no direct interest in the case. 
>
>"The law in any event does not permit one taxpayer or citizen to
>challenge the income tax treatment of the transactions or affairs of
>another taxpayer," says Revenue Canada's written court submission. "To
>allow such a challenge is . . . inconsistent with our system of tax
>administration." 
>
>Revenue Canada lawyers add the public interest is already being
>addressed in a "normal and lawful manner," since legislation is being
>considered. 
>
>After a severe rebuke from Denis Desautels, the Auditor-General, the
>government announced in October 1996 it would introduce new rules to
>ensure taxes are paid on assets moving out of the country that have
>increased in value during their time in Canada. 
>
>But more than three years later, legislation has not been passed. 
>
>The much-debated departure tax has encountered stiff opposition in
>Liberal strongholds like Vancouver and Toronto, where immigrant
>communities balk at the prospect of investors and entrepreneurs coming
>into Canada being forced to list their assets and pay capital gains on
>profits accrued during their time in the country. 
>
>The business community also has been opposed, saying it would create
>an unwanted barrier for investors in and operators of private
>companies. 
>
>In his earlier ruling, Judge Muldoon admonished government officials
>for treating Mr. Harris like a "nobody" by arguing that he had no
>right to challenge Revenue Canada's practice. 
>
>"Mr. Harris brings this action on behalf of his fellow taxpayers,
>except the favoured few, for the few will never be heard of to
>complain of the official favouritism," Judge Muldoon wrote. 
>
>"The fair-minded, objective observer must surely smell at least the
>grave maladministration here ... One can only imagine the benefit to
>the country and to national programs such sums could have
>contributed." 
>
>Mr. Harris, a member of a social advocacy group called CHOICES, argues
>he has as much right to challenge tax treatment as he does other
>government expenditures. 
>
>"The plaintiff submits matters of tax assessment and collection raise
>the very same public interest concern as matters of direct financial
>expenditure. There is no substantive difference between a dollar of
>tax revenue forgone and a dollar of public money expended by
>government." 
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On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 11:03:55 -0700, "DetectorTHX11:59:01"  wrote:
>Leftists = traitors  wrote in message
>news:1154710281.114348.317630@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> $37.00 for a book that costs $24.99 U.S.  Our dollars are within 13% of
>> each other.
>> Book prices haven't changed since our dollar was worth $0.63 U.S.  Of
>> course, we KNOW who owns Chapters-Indigo and they dictate to the publishers.
>> Their excuse that "you can't tool up that fast" as to why they can't
>> re-price books falls on deaf ears.  It does NOT take YEARS to rectify prices. F--- The Reitmans and
>> their cabal.

>They are part of Israhells fifth column in Canada, and are intertwined with
>the globalist Bilderberg gangsters.  They should be watched in case they are
>involved in any Mossad activities like stealing Canadian passports and
>spying.  They could be sending and recieving more than books.

And the ZYDS wonder why Canadians resent being JEWED, as per dictionary
definition!!



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The zionazi ZYDS do not like to be reminded of this!

Evean fat Hermann Goering used jews in his home and in the Luftwaffe.

On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 03:15:15 GMT, "amigo  cabal" 
wrote:

>Germans of Jewish Descent Who Served Hitler

>Possibly one of the most damning indictments of the allegations surrounding 
>the Holocaust and Nazi racial policy, come in an analysis of Germans of part 
>Jewish descent who were not only ardent Nazis but who faithfully served the 
>Nazi state at all levels in its military structure. For if the Nazi state 
>had, as is so often claimed, been hell bent on killing all traces of Jews, 
>it would never have allowed these individuals into positions which they did 
>hold - including army and air force generals.

>As discussed earlier, the Nazi racial laws made specific allowances for such 
>exceptions, and in fact actively sought to assimilate partial Jews into 
>German society, rather than have them re-congregate and form pure Jewish 
>gene pools once again. From the Nazi side, there was therefore no 
>contradiction between the assimilation of part Jews into German society, 
>although this policy is subject to considerable misunderstanding from 
>outside observers.

>As discussed in the book by American Military University professor Bryan 
>Mark Rigg in his book "Hitler's Jewish Soldiers, The Untold Story of Nazi 
>Racial Laws and Men of Jewish Descent in the German Military" (University 
>Press of Kansas, Modern War Studies, May 2002) as many as 150,000 men of 
>part Jewish descent, including decorated veterans and high-ranking officers, 
>even generals and admirals, fought for Nazi Germany right to the bitter end.

>Almost all of these 150,000 men received special exemptions and declarations 
>of being "true Germans", many of these orders being signed by Adolf Hitler 
>himself, in a legal provision known as the Deutschblütigkeitserklärung (or 
>literally, the Declaration of German Blood).

>Above: photographs of Wehrmacht soldier and half-Jew Anton Mayer, typical of 
>those which accompanied an application for exemption under the Nazis' racial 
>laws.

>Above left: Quarter-Jew Admiral Bernhard Rogge wearing his Knight's Cross 
>(Ritterkreuz) with oak leaves. Above right: Adolf Hitler personally declared 
>Luftwaffe Field Marshall Erhard Milch (standing left) as  an Aryan, even 
>though Milch was half-Jewish. To Milch's right, General Wolfram von 
>Richthofen.

>Above right: Half-Jew Luftwaffe General Helmut Wilberg; above right: The 
>military service book of half-Jew Hermann Aub.

>Above left: World War One veteran and half-Jew, General Johannes Zukertort; 
>and above right: Half-Jew Commander Paul Ascher, Admiral Lütjens's first 
>staff officer on the battleship Bismarck.

>Above left: Half-Jew Colonel Walter H. Hollaender, decorated with the 
>Knight's Cross (Ritterkreuz) and German-Cross in Gold; and above right: 
>Half-Jew Wehrmacht soldier Werner Goldberg.

>"KNOWING THE NAZI STATE FOR WHAT IT WAS"

>The significance of these Germans of Jewish descent serving the Third Reich 
>has not been lost on the academic world: for example, the following quote 
>from historian John Keegan in his review of Bryan Mark Rigg's book:
>
>"The revelation that Germans of Jewish blood, knowing the Nazi regime for 
>what it was, served Hitler as uniformed members of his armed forces must 
>come as a profound shock. It will surprise even professional historians of 
>the Nazi years."  - John Keegan, author of The Face of Battle and The Second 
>World War,  (http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/righit.html)

>Keegan is of course, mistaken in the one sense, in that even a cursory study 
>of Nazi racial laws will have revealed that the Blood Protection Law of 1935 
>make specific allowances for such cases, and only the general hysteria and 
>ignorance of what the Nazis actually said and did has allowed people to be 
>"shocked" by the large number of part Jews serving the Reich.

>The phrase "knowing the Nazi regime for what it was" above by Keegan, is 
>however the real significant part: for indeed, if the Nazis had been mass 
>murdering, gassing and burning millions of Jews, it is extremely unlikely 
>that these 150,000 prominent Germans of part Jewish descent, would have 
>served the Reich at all, never mind having made specific application to be 
>granted full Aryan status - especially given that there were only 
>approximately 600,000 full blooded Jews in Nazi Germany.




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On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 06:01:45 GMT,
fl0w3r_w13ld1ng_$0ld13r@salmahayeksknockers.edu wrote:
>In calgary.general Bill Gannon  wrote:

>> Kenny McVay is the asshole who regularly posts the anti-semite crap in 
>> can.politics under the name of Ken McVay.

>O now I understand.  I've seen many of that McVay guy's posts, and he's a
>real jerk.

McVay is the diseased fag that dislikes anyone criticising his zionazi masters
and their criminality!!

Repost of articles about McVay:
Subject: MCVAY/NIZKOR JEWS Jews,Charities,Donors,IRS,CRA-Even BB Now Critical
of Crook McVay!

Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag in Canada,
Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting 
and car theft in California and Oregon, and still 
unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of the 
Canadian branch of NAMBLA, finally dying as a 
diseased AIDS-spreader,wants all to know 
about all his criminal activities.
Here is a photo of Ken McVay, director of NIZKOR.ORG-- 
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
     Would any of you want to leave this person, Ken McVay,
                alone with your children?
Here is the latest.......

Even Jew groups, such as Sol Littman/Bnai Brith, have a website criticising
Ken McVay at:
http://www.freedomsite.org/exposed/littman/littman_on_mcvay/index.shtml


Date: 10 Jan 2003 12:20:15 -0000
Message-ID: 
From: B'nai Brith
Subject: Ken McVay will not answer 3 questions. Why?
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.general,can.taxes,can.legal

QUESTION #1: Is the following news article authentic or not?
QUSETION #2: Did the reporter lie or get his information incorrect
when he reported: "Now [Ken McVay's] task has gotten a little easier
with a $50,000 grant from the philanthropic San Antonio Area Foundation
to the Nizkor Project..."?
QUESTION #3: (is below the news article)



San Antonio Express-News
August 3, 1996
Page 10B

"Internet project won't let Holocaust be forgotten"
By Thomas Edwards
Express-News Staff Writer

"Nizkor" in Hebrew means "we will remember," but it is also a
solemn promise Holocaust researcher Kenneth McVay has taken to
the Internet so that people will never forget the atrocities of
Nazi Germany.

Now his task has gotten a little easier with a $50,000 grant from
the philanthropic San Antonio Area Foundation to the Nizkor
Project, an international computer web site directed by the 55-
year-old McVay from his home in Vancouver Island, Canada.

The Nizkor project not only provides information on Hitler's
bloody pogroms but is also intended to counter the claims of
"deniers" (as McVay calls them) -- modern-day neo-Nazis and
extremists who use their own web sites to deny that the
extermination of 12 million Jews and others ever took place
during World War II.

"They (deniers) think the Holocaust is a Jewish propaganda thing,"
said McVay this week during a visit to the Jewish Federation of
San Antonio.  "I have come to see Holocaust denial as a function
of racism."

McVay and a group of Holocaust experts plan a panel discussion at
7 p.m. Sunday on "Fighting Hate on the Internet" at the
federation office, 8434 Ahern Drive behind North Star Mall.

The grant will allow McVay and his associates to unveil two new,
extremely fast computers at an undisclosed location in San
Antonio -- undisclosed because of threats from extremists, he
said.

These computers will be linked to others in Germany and Canada to
provide easily accessible information about the Holocaust and
hate groups.

The Nizkor Project is not only a tool to fight bigotry, it has
also "make an impact in terms of Holocaust education," McVay said.

Some of the new material he will add to the web site -- which
will have sound and movement -- includes speeches by Nazi
statesmen advocating genocide, 68 volumes of military
documentation from the Nuremburg war crimes tribunals and
material from the National Archives in Washington.

Some of the new material is being donated by San Antonio resident
Harry Mazal, who is the director of the Nizkor Project in the
United States.  Mazal also has one of the world's largest private
collections of Holocaust material.

While the task sounds monumental and is expected to take years to
complete, McVay is not daunted.

"Every item that appears on the net takes away another lie"
promoted by neo-Nazis, he said.

The web address for the Nizkor Project is www.nizkor.org.



The article above can be confirmed at: http://archives1.newsbank.com/
Now click San Antonio-Express News AR=rchives or:
http://archives.newsbank.com/saenews
You will be taken to a page with a very long URL and this is what
I just got:
http://archives9.newsbank.com/cgi-bin/user/home.pl/SAEC?nb_id=N61V4EQBZ2V0dGltZW9mZGF5OjE6MTQ6NjQuMTUyLjI0NS4xNjk
Once there click on the link contained within this passage:
A  in S.A. NewsArchives produces a list of story summaries
that include the headline, date, author, and first few sentences of
articles containing your search terms. The headline list is free. You
will be prompted to purchase a subscription to SA NewsArchives (if you
don't already have one) to view the full text of articles.

You will be taken to another page with the search engine and that
page was linked by this link:
http://archives9.newsbank.com/ar-search/we/Archives?p_action=keyword&p_theme=SAEC&p_product=SAEC

Once there set the search engine for:
Search for: Nizkor
Limit Search by Date: All documents

If you all do the above you should get this result:

1 record(s) found (Search results: 1 - 1)

  August 3, 1996   San Antonio Express-News
  Internet project won't let Holocaust be forgotten

Thomas Edwards Express-News Staff Writer

"Nizkor" in Hebrew means "we will remember," but it is also a solemn
promise Holocaust researcher Kenneth McVay has taken to the Internet
so that people will never forget the atrocities of Nazi Germany. Now
his task has gotten a little easier with a $50,000 grant from the
philanthropic San Antonio Area Foundation to the Nizkor Project, an
international computer web site directed by the 55-year-old McVay from
his home in Vancouver Island, Canada. The Nizkor project

[View the full-text article, 526 words]



Notice to lurkers: You will have to order a subscription to be able
to retrieve the whole article but what the excerpts shows proves McVay
lies when he claims: "The Nizkor Project has no operations of any sort
whatsoever within the United States. Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken
McVay has ever received any money from the "San Antonio Area Foundation
- Nizkor Fund." The San Antonio Area Foundation has never paid me, or
Nizkor, and neither myself nor Nizkor has any connection with the San
Antonio Area Foundation."

QUESTION #3: If the news paper article exists and is correct then why
did you claim in the Nizkor archive below: "No one ever gave me $50,000.
That sum was donated to the San Antonio Area Foundation" when a local
San Antonio news paper reported: "Now [Ken McVay's] task has gotten a
little easier with a $50,000 grant from the philanthropic San Antonio Area
Foundation to the Nizkor Project..."

http://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/m/mcvay.ken/2000/San_Antonio_Area_Foundation_donation
>From kmcvay@nizkor.org Thu Jun  1 21:09:22 EDT 2000
Article: 747674 of alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: The embezzlement question McVay refuses to answer
Date: 2 Jun 2000 01:04:24 GMT
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
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"Blakely"  wrote in message
news:282e6175.3c2814b6@usw-ex0103-086.remarq.com...
> What did you do with the $50,000 given to you to start a Nizkor
> operation in San Antonio? Since you claim you don't have a San
> Antonio operation, is it safe to say that you simply embezzled
> the money?

No one ever gave me $50,000. That sum was donated to the San Antonio
Area Foundation. $40,000 was invested, at the direction of the donor,
in the purchase of two Sun computer systems. $10,000 was invested in
an endowment fund in accordance with the regulations set by the San
Antonio Area Foundation. The San Antonio Area Foundation has never
paid me - or anyone else, to my knowledge.........

The Nizkor Project -- Ken McVay Director
P.O. Box 244, Station A
Nanaimo, B.C. V9R 5K9 Canada
1-250-616-9431
1-416-966-0461

Residential address:
995 Bowen Road, Apt. 3108
Nanaimo, British Columbia V9R 2A4
1-250-616-9431



If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant
If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


Posted by: 
Patrick Lee Humphrey
7500 Bellerive #1807
Houston, Texas 77036-3040
1-713-266-7764

Steven Horn (KCOM)
1836 NW 11th St
Oklahoma City, OK 73106
(405) 524-0576

together with

Boris Dynin  = NAMBLA executive & 
Henry who like
late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.

CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even 
VISIT me at:
55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco  94132


Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
work:(780)492-0473

And also: George Firestone: "George" 

Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
for many years around the world.

Reply to: George" , ,
or to tdichtler
SINCE I LIKE TO RECEIVE LOTS OF EMAILS, FEEL FREE TO SUBSCRIBE ME TO
ALL KINDS OF MAILLISTS, ESPECIALLY FOR SEX, AND HOMOSEXUALS.




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On Sun, 21 May 2006 03:33:35 GMT, "PV"  wrote:
>"Asterix"  wrote in message 
>news:svfu629963rhgu3k1mn57g9knb81c9fflg@4ax.com...
>> The Edmonton Journal, in a banner headline story on page B1 of today's
>> paper, exposes yet another swindle involving Edmonton's crooked cops!!

>Once again, you really really need to buy a new newspaper.

>It's time to move on and ferret out some more "corruption"!
>PV 

How about the story on page B6 of Thursday 18 May 2006, reporting on yet
another crooked cop - Cst. Aubrey Zalaski, charged with torture by laser of
another innocent civilian?

This case was so rotten, even the police chief had to lay criminal charges,
since he couldn't cover it up!

Hardly a week goes by, without the media exposing more rogue cops.



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Glad to see that the finance and collections manager for Leduc was 
on his toes, and did the job for which he gets paid!!

Time to FIRE Lowry, after recovering the $450 Grand from his pay!!

Anyone stupid enough to hire this scammaer, deserves to get swindled.


On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:34:46 GMT, LordTweedsmuir
 wrote:
>On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 16:04:02 GMT, LordTweedsmuir
> wrote:

>>The Journal for today, Wednesday 20 September 2006, reports that EPCOR
>>management failed to pay a bill in connection with their power plant, and
>>consequently had to pay a penalty of $450,000!!

>Will Lowry get FIRED for his negligence, or will he pass the buck on some
>junior staffer?

>>Will he be required to pay this penalty, out of his salary and bonuses, since
>>he is respondible?

>>Or, will he try to get the Utilities Board to raise rates to EPCOR customers
>>to make up for his negligence?



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The zionazi ZYDS do not like to be reminded of this!
The ZYDS even use their shabbas-goy McVay, to try and deflect
this TRUE information.

The Christkillers dislike being reminded about the ZYD COLLABORATEURS - such
as KASTNER, RUMKOWSKI AND WIESENTHAL!!

Evean fat Hermann Goering used jews in his home and in the Luftwaffe.

On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 03:15:15 GMT, "amigo  cabal" 
wrote:

>Germans of Jewish Descent Who Served Hitler

>Possibly one of the most damning indictments of the allegations surrounding 
>the Holocaust and Nazi racial policy, come in an analysis of Germans of part 
>Jewish descent who were not only ardent Nazis but who faithfully served the 
>Nazi state at all levels in its military structure. For if the Nazi state 
>had, as is so often claimed, been hell bent on killing all traces of Jews, 
>it would never have allowed these individuals into positions which they did 
>hold - including army and air force generals.

>As discussed earlier, the Nazi racial laws made specific allowances for such 
>exceptions, and in fact actively sought to assimilate partial Jews into 
>German society, rather than have them re-congregate and form pure Jewish 
>gene pools once again. From the Nazi side, there was therefore no 
>contradiction between the assimilation of part Jews into German society, 
>although this policy is subject to considerable misunderstanding from 
>outside observers.

>As discussed in the book by American Military University professor Bryan 
>Mark Rigg in his book "Hitler's Jewish Soldiers, The Untold Story of Nazi 
>Racial Laws and Men of Jewish Descent in the German Military" (University 
>Press of Kansas, Modern War Studies, May 2002) as many as 150,000 men of 
>part Jewish descent, including decorated veterans and high-ranking officers, 
>even generals and admirals, fought for Nazi Germany right to the bitter end.

>Almost all of these 150,000 men received special exemptions and declarations 
>of being "true Germans", many of these orders being signed by Adolf Hitler 
>himself, in a legal provision known as the Deutschblütigkeitserklärung (or 
>literally, the Declaration of German Blood).

>Above: photographs of Wehrmacht soldier and half-Jew Anton Mayer, typical of 
>those which accompanied an application for exemption under the Nazis' racial 
>laws.

>Above left: Quarter-Jew Admiral Bernhard Rogge wearing his Knight's Cross 
>(Ritterkreuz) with oak leaves. Above right: Adolf Hitler personally declared 
>Luftwaffe Field Marshall Erhard Milch (standing left) as  an Aryan, even 
>though Milch was half-Jewish. To Milch's right, General Wolfram von 
>Richthofen.

>Above right: Half-Jew Luftwaffe General Helmut Wilberg; above right: The 
>military service book of half-Jew Hermann Aub.

>Above left: World War One veteran and half-Jew, General Johannes Zukertort; 
>and above right: Half-Jew Commander Paul Ascher, Admiral Lütjens's first 
>staff officer on the battleship Bismarck.

>Above left: Half-Jew Colonel Walter H. Hollaender, decorated with the 
>Knight's Cross (Ritterkreuz) and German-Cross in Gold; and above right: 
>Half-Jew Wehrmacht soldier Werner Goldberg.

>"KNOWING THE NAZI STATE FOR WHAT IT WAS"

>The significance of these Germans of Jewish descent serving the Third Reich 
>has not been lost on the academic world: for example, the following quote 
>from historian John Keegan in his review of Bryan Mark Rigg's book:
>
>"The revelation that Germans of Jewish blood, knowing the Nazi regime for 
>what it was, served Hitler as uniformed members of his armed forces must 
>come as a profound shock. It will surprise even professional historians of 
>the Nazi years."  - John Keegan, author of The Face of Battle and The Second 
>World War,  (http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/righit.html)

>Keegan is of course, mistaken in the one sense, in that even a cursory study 
>of Nazi racial laws will have revealed that the Blood Protection Law of 1935 
>make specific allowances for such cases, and only the general hysteria and 
>ignorance of what the Nazis actually said and did has allowed people to be 
>"shocked" by the large number of part Jews serving the Reich.

>The phrase "knowing the Nazi regime for what it was" above by Keegan, is 
>however the real significant part: for indeed, if the Nazis had been mass 
>murdering, gassing and burning millions of Jews, it is extremely unlikely 
>that these 150,000 prominent Germans of part Jewish descent, would have 
>served the Reich at all, never mind having made specific application to be 
>granted full Aryan status - especially given that there were only 
>approximately 600,000 full blooded Jews in Nazi Germany.




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In May, the crooks in the city Tax Assessment Department mailed out the
fictitous assessments for taxation for this year.

If you feel that the assessment for your property is TOO HIGH, while some
neighbours are deliberately UNDER-ASSESSED, then file an appeal!!
If you are angry enough, let everyone know, and tell us on the newsgroups.

Perhaps if there is enough publicity about these crooks, the city will finally
have to fire a few more, and hire some honest assessors!

All city home assessments are readily available on the internet, for easy
comparison.

Don't let yourself get JEWED by the crooks on the city payroll.
Expose them, as Grosvenor did about the lawyer's property, detailed below.

The lawyer even had his property up for city tax sale, this year, for unpaid
taxes, April 27 2006!!

On 29 Jun 2005 15:16:21 -0700, "Brian Boulanger"
 wrote:

>One MUST wonder - was it bribery, graft, corruption or what, that this
>lawyer got a donation from the city tax department of a HALF MILLION
>DOLLARS each year deliberately UNDER-ASSESSED, while honest taxpayers
>got the shaft/got screwed!!

>Perhaps criminal charges should be considered against those city staff
>responsible, for the massive under-collection of proper tax revenues
>for 8 years? Particularly since it took a courageous taxpayer to force
>this scam into the courts and into the open!


>Newsgroups: edm.general, edm.politics, ab.general, calgary.general
>From: "Brian Boulanger"  - Find messages
>by this author
>Date: 27 Jun 2005 18:19:01 -0700
>Local: Mon,Jun 27 2005 8:19 pm
>Subject: $Half MILLION Underassessed By City Tax Dept.-Heads to Roll!!
>Reply | Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show
>original | Remove | Report Abuse

>It seems that now that the City Auditor-General has his teeth into this
>notorious expose, more heads in the City Tax Assessment Department will
>be getting chopped, besides those staff already terminated.

>The notorious William Grosvenor took the city to tax court, and exposed
>the situation where a well-known lawyer's property was improperly
>UNDERASSESSED BY HALF A MILLION DOLLARS - at $149,500, when the
>lawyer's own documentation declared a value of $600,000!!

>Only now, after the courageous expose, is the property properly
>assessed at $651,000!!

>For 8 years the lawyer got off, while taxpayers who did pay their share
>had to make up the difference.

>Everyone involved in the cover-up, and scam, should not only be fired,
>but prosecuted for criminality as well!


>Newsgroups: edm.general, edm.politics
>From: Mike McWilliams  -
>Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:20:14 -0600
>Subject: APPEAL YOUR TAXES! Don't Get Jewed By Crooks In City Tax
>Dept.!

>If your city tax assessment has increased more than the 2.4% inflation
>certified by StatsCan, then perhaps you also are a victim of the crooks
>running Deadmonton?!!

>If you feel you are being overcharged, then do what you are entitled to
>do - FILE AN APPEAL!!

>The odds are in your favour, since more than 80% of appeals against the
>City,win!!

>Checking the website for this year's assessments, it seems that the
>city of Edmonton finally obeyed the ARB,regarding the dramatically
>UNDERASSESSED property owned by a city liar/lawyer!.
>The value now is $651,000, up from the ridiculous $149,500!!!

>If not CORRUPTION, then at least favouritism, when property
>UNDER-ASSESSED BY HALF MILLION DOLLARS!!

>Rumour has it that the city tax assessor responsible, is no longer
>employed by the city??
>Why should a private citizen have to take the City to Court, just to
>force the city to do a proper job, for which some slimeball is getting overpaid?


>From: heinrichhimmelf...@xmail.net (HeinrichHimmelfarb)
>Newsgroups:
>edm.general,edm.politics,ab.ge­­neral,ab.politics,can.general
>Subject: Re: Graft,Corruption Claimed in City Tax Appeal!! LAWYER TO
>GET TAXES QUADRUPLED!!
>Date: 2 Oct 2004 08:46:23 -0700

>It seems that even a lawyer will finally get his comeuppance.
>The ARB on Monday ordered the city tax assessment department to
>finally correct the improper assessment and bring the value up to what
>it should be.

>This means that in one year, the assessment had to jump from the
>massive under-assessment of $149,500 to at least $600,000 and probably
>$608,000!!!

>Even a damned lawyer can finally get what he deserves,when someone has
>the guts to force the issue into a court.

>How many other massive UNDER-ASSESSMENTS, FOR FRIENDS OF THE CITY
>MANAGERS ARE OUT THERE?

>heinrichhimmelf...@xmail.net (HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote in message
>...

>> Regarding the article below,the City is now declining to appear before
>> the ARB, tomorrow at 3:30 in the afternoon!!
>> It seems that they do not want to name the city tax assessor
>> responsible for the more than $200,00 REDUCTION in the property tax
>> assessment of the city liar/lawyer!!

>> In their documents sent to the complainant, the City DOES CONFIRM THE
>> CORRECT VALUE AT MORE THAN $608,000!!
>> The tax appeal Court/ARB will be asked whether this constitutes
>> CORRUPTION, or/and CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE!!!
>> Sharx, and others annoyed with city mismanagement, care to comment?

>> heinrichhimmelf...@xmail.net (HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote in message ...
>> > City have in fact confirmed,and helped correct previous assessment
>> > value.
>> > It was actually $149,500, while the owners declared value,in writing,
>> > was $600,000!!

>> > No explanation from the cretins in the Tax Assessment section as to
>> > why they gave their buddy such a massive UNDER-ASSESSMENT!!
>> > This while they gouge small homeowners and apartment owners with
>> > massive tax hikes!!

>> > No wonder the number of appeals this year is allegedly double.
>> > Perhaps the citizens are finally getting mad enough for a tax revolt.
>> > > Apparently THIS scandal is but the tip of the iceberg, regarding
>> > > irregularities involving the city tax department.
>> > > Another case,coming up in court next week, relates to an out-of-court
>> > > settlement the city had to make un connection with the illegal closure
>> > > of the southbound access road for Calgary Trail at Ellerslie Road.
>> > > One of the property owners, incensed at his astronomical tax assessment hike
>> > > this year, is presenting to the tax appeal court, the evidence that
>> > > business plummeted, plus that the city had to pay one of the businesses!!
>> > > The right hand did not know what the left did.....

>> > > starwars  wrote in message ...
>> > > > Can someone explain how a well-known liar/lawyer is able to get a
>> > > > massive UNDER-ASSESSMENT on his palatial property,which is knowingly
>> > > > under-assessed by more than $200,000.00!!
>> > > > This property, which the lawyer and spouse have declared to be worth
>> > > > at least $600,000 (yes six hundred thousands because it is huge,has
>> > > > law offices on ground floor plus apartments on second floor was
>> > > > assessed last year for less than a quarter of value,for only
>> > > > $148,000!!
>> > > > After the city tax department documented in city tax appeal Court last
>> > > > year, evidence of the real value of $600,000. now this year it is
>> > > > assessed for $393,500 - still more than $200,000 UNDER-ASSESSED!!
>> > > > At the same time, neighbours are being OVER-ASSESSED by 20%!!
>> > > > Naturally, cynics wonder, who is on the take in the City?



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A jury in Wetaskiwin Alberta Canada decided correctly, regarding the young
mother who deliberately killed her newborn son, then threw the newborn's body
over the fence into a neighbour's yard,

The jury, after lengthy deliberations and review of the evidence, convicted
the woman of manslaughter, and the court sentenced her to life in prison, 
with no chance to apply for parole for at least 10 years.

The killer's family were outraged at this proper sentence, calling the jurors
bastards. Bleeding heart liars/lawyers say it is unusual for such a stern
sentence for child murders.

Perhaps people have finally had enough of the namby-pamby sentences 
givenout by Canadian judges to serious criminals.

Perhaps now, more juries will actually mete out proper justice.
You do the crime, get ready to do the time.

Pity the death sentence is no longer available in Canada.
Mind you, perhaps the Conservatives will re-introduce this form of proper
punishment.


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If the US government does not give tourists from Canada a refund of the US
taxes, why should Canada give yanks a rebate?

If Britain and Europe do not give foreigners a rebate of VAT, so what?

If tourism does drop because of US resentment, then Canadian tourist
businesses will have to lower costs, to attract tourists, or else go under.


On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 04:13:45 -0400, Lawrence Hughes 
wrote:

>I've always applied for the GST refund following each trip I have taken to
>Canada, and the availability of the refund has influenced my trip-making
>decisions.

>With USD 1.00 now only buying CDN 1.10, down from nearly CDN 1.50 just a few
>years ago, and now a proposed GST refund elimination, the cost of a
>Canadian holiday will have increased for Americans by 50 percent in this
>very short period. Of course Americans will avoid Canada.

>Király wrote:
>
>> GST rebate, $78.8 million
>> The government will eliminate the rebate that it offers foreign
>> tourists.
>> The Canadian Revenue Agency says that only about 3 per cent of visitors
>> apply for the rebate, but critics said the cut will hurt tourism,
>> particularly among Americans who cross the border.

>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/parliament39/budgetcuts.html



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Guess the Morgentaler child killing factory wanted to make its' quota for
getting so many millions from the government?

Don't forget that Morgentaler gets tens of millions each year, for killing
babies!!


On 27 Sep 2006 18:03:16 -0700, "Sound of Trumpet"
 wrote:

>http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1709046/posts

>Mother of Seven Arrested Without Warning for Showing Abortion Image

>LifeSiteNews ^ | 27 September 2006
>
>Posted on 09/26/2006 10:54:14 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher
>
>FREDERICTON, New Brunswick, Sept. 27, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - A
>pro-life woman was arrested Tuesday for holding an image of an aborted
>child outside an abortion facility in Fredericton, New Brunswick.
>
>Suzie Ryan, mother of seven, was silently holding the image outside the
>Morgentaler centre as abortions were being performed inside. Mrs. Ryan
>was charged with violating s.163 of the Criminal Code. S.163 is about
>the display of obscene material. She was released after being held in a
>jail cell for several hours. She must face the charges in court in
>November.
>
>Prior to her arrest Mrs. Ryan was not warned in any way that she was
>committing an illegal act. Six to eight police officers arrived and
>forcibly put her in a paddy wagon, while confiscating her sign and
>umbrella.
>
>Police Staff Sergeant Kelly later explained to Mrs. Ryan's husband,
>Campaign Life Coalition New Brunswick (CLCNB) president Peter Ryan,
>that the police were acting following instructions from the Crown
>Prosecutor office and some 35 complaints about the display of abortion
>images. Mr. Ryan believes the abortuary staff must have put in one or
>more complaints this morning.
>
>CLCNB is not aware of any other case in Canada where a pro-life citizen
>was arrested without prior warning for simply displaying an abortion
>image in a public place. Such images have been repeatedly displayed by
>such groups as Show the Truth which has won precedent-setting cases in
>which it also was charged for showing graphic abortion pictures. That
>group visited Fredericton twice this past summer. At the time
>Fredericton Mayor Brad Woodside expressed displeasure with the group's
>tactics, but said there was nothing the city could legally do to
>prevent such displays.
>
>The Morgentaler abortion facility has no legal restrictions against
>protest in the surrounding public area. Pro-life supporters regularly
>are present on Tuesday mornings when abortions usually take place.
>
>Mrs. Ryan says she is quite shaken by the incident.
>
>Peter Ryan says it is incredible when someone can be accused of a crime
>for peacefully protesting the murder of innocent children. "Here's the
>analogy," he said. "The Nazi death camps are exterminating Jews.
>Outside someone protests with an image of the Holocaust. The camp staff
>complains to police. The person is arrested as a criminal. The
>slaughter goes on. That's where we now are in this country.



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On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 12:49:26 -0600, "TopPoster
." <.TopPoster@poster.com> wrote:

>If she was sane at the time she would have buried the body and no one would
>have known

>A list of infanticide cases in Canada
>Sep 27 8:11 PM US/Eastern

>A list of infanticide cases in Canada
>(CP) - Katrina Effert of Wetaskiwin, Alta., has been convicted of
>second-degree murder for killing her newborn baby boy. 

Finally a jury of her peers have decided to make the punishment fit the crime.
Since Canada no longer has the DP, Effert gets life in prison, which in Canada
is called Club Fed!!



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On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 15:39:54 GMT, sechumlib  wrote:
>On 2006-09-28 10:26:06 -0400, pltrgyst  said:
>> On 28 Sep 2006 06:13:18 -0700, "garciyalater@hotmail.com"
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> oh please......if you are so cheap you wont go somewhere if you cant
>>> get your tax dollars back or if the dollar is weaker against their
>>> currency, stay home...
>> 
>> Yo, Chuck, dummy -- most people, unless they're very wealthy, consider the
>> overall cost of a vacation before booking. The factors you cite are part of the
>> overall cost. not an independent political factor.
>
>Do they nickel-&-dime every item in their consideration of the overall cost?
>
>We travel to Canada frequently. If Canada eliminates the tax rebate, we 
>won't like it much. But we're not going to boycott the country because 
>of this essentially nickel-&-dime item.

To a tourist, intending to spend many thousands of dollars, the GST&PST, at
14-15% is NOT INSIGNIFICANT!!

Particularly when gasoline costs 50% more than in the USA, groceries cost much
more, and even prices in Walmart and Costco are up to double the US prices for
similar goods!!



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Guess the Morgentaler child killing factory wanted to make its' quota for
getting so many millions from the government?

Don't forget that Morgentaler gets tens of millions each year, for killing
babies!!


On 27 Sep 2006 18:03:16 -0700, "Sound of Trumpet"
 wrote:

>http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1709046/posts

>Mother of Seven Arrested Without Warning for Showing Abortion Image

>LifeSiteNews ^ | 27 September 2006
>
>Posted on 09/26/2006 10:54:14 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher
>
>FREDERICTON, New Brunswick, Sept. 27, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - A
>pro-life woman was arrested Tuesday for holding an image of an aborted
>child outside an abortion facility in Fredericton, New Brunswick.
>
>Suzie Ryan, mother of seven, was silently holding the image outside the
>Morgentaler centre as abortions were being performed inside. Mrs. Ryan
>was charged with violating s.163 of the Criminal Code. S.163 is about
>the display of obscene material. She was released after being held in a
>jail cell for several hours. She must face the charges in court in
>November.
>
>Prior to her arrest Mrs. Ryan was not warned in any way that she was
>committing an illegal act. Six to eight police officers arrived and
>forcibly put her in a paddy wagon, while confiscating her sign and
>umbrella.
>
>Police Staff Sergeant Kelly later explained to Mrs. Ryan's husband,
>Campaign Life Coalition New Brunswick (CLCNB) president Peter Ryan,
>that the police were acting following instructions from the Crown
>Prosecutor office and some 35 complaints about the display of abortion
>images. Mr. Ryan believes the abortuary staff must have put in one or
>more complaints this morning.
>
>CLCNB is not aware of any other case in Canada where a pro-life citizen
>was arrested without prior warning for simply displaying an abortion
>image in a public place. Such images have been repeatedly displayed by
>such groups as Show the Truth which has won precedent-setting cases in
>which it also was charged for showing graphic abortion pictures. That
>group visited Fredericton twice this past summer. At the time
>Fredericton Mayor Brad Woodside expressed displeasure with the group's
>tactics, but said there was nothing the city could legally do to
>prevent such displays.
>
>The Morgentaler abortion facility has no legal restrictions against
>protest in the surrounding public area. Pro-life supporters regularly
>are present on Tuesday mornings when abortions usually take place.
>
>Mrs. Ryan says she is quite shaken by the incident.
>
>Peter Ryan says it is incredible when someone can be accused of a crime
>for peacefully protesting the murder of innocent children. "Here's the
>analogy," he said. "The Nazi death camps are exterminating Jews.
>Outside someone protests with an image of the Holocaust. The camp staff
>complains to police. The person is arrested as a criminal. The
>slaughter goes on. That's where we now are in this country.



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On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 10:33:58 GMT, "Sharx35"  wrote:
Evidence of crooked city tax assessors will again be proven at ARB Hearing,
Monday 18 September.

No wonder Mel Forseth, Nick Gorda, Mike Chibuk, and Frank Oesterreicher do not
want the public reminded, that for 8 years they allowed a lawyer's house to be
DELIBERATELY UNDER-ASSESSED BY HALF A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR, 
FOR 8 YEARS!!

One must wonder, who is on the take, to allow such irregularity for so long?

>Chief Instigator wrote:
>> Next installment and exposure of city tax department irregularities
>> was in  OPEN COURT, at the MGB Hearing,  March 27.

>> Again, was exposed for all to see, the evidence proving the City
>> allowed the lawyer to be underassessed  for his property at 13723 -
>> 93 St., by HALF A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR, for 8 years.

>Is that commercially zoned property, occupied by a residence?

It is a 2 story building, zoned DC5, with lawyer offices on main floor, and
rental apartments on upper floor.

HALF A MILLION DOLLARS each year - for 8 years!
His own papers filed declared the value to be $600,000, while his
friends in the city only assessed for $149,500!!

>> In retaliation, the city assessors incresed the assessment of the man
>> who exposed their graft by 4 TIMES THAT OF HIS NEIGHBOURS!!


>> Yes, the city website is operational in May and June, which allowed
>> some of us the opportunity to get the PROOF, which will be used in
>> the MGB city tax appeals, to PROVE GROSS OR CRIMINAL IRREGULARITIES
>> by the city tax staffers!

>> One must wonder, for whom is Merle Foresth working, since he seems to
>> not care about massive irregularities!!

>> It is now time, to not only FIRE those city employees involved in
>> this massive under-assessment for one of their buddies, but they
>> should also be PROSECUTED for their involvement in this massive FRAUD
>> on the city taxpayers!!

>> How many other friends of city tax department staff are also, still,
>> getting massive under-assessments, worth tens of thousands of dollars
>> per crook, apart from the well-known city lawyer exposed?

>> Time to clean house at city hall, and not just leave it up to
>> Grosvenor to take these crooks to court!!


>> From: arielv2@37.com the filthy crook, wanting everyone to know about
>> how corrupt is the cesspool called Deadmonton, wrote:
>> Newsgroups: edm.general,edm.politics
>> Subject: Re: APPEAL YOUR TAXES!!GRAFT,CORRUPTION in City Tax
>> Appeal-Lawyer Finally Got Taxes Quadrupled!! WHY BE JEWED?
>> Date: 1 Aug 2005 13:21:10 -0700

>> Why do you call our beuatiful city "deadmonton", ?
>> if you don't like it here why are you doing here? why don't you go
>> back to the rat hole you came from (england or whatever hellhole you're
>> from). stop polluting our charming city with your stinking existance. a
>> bullet thru your old and rotten head will be a great solution to your not
>> liking our city. drop dead you fucking nazi!


>> On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 09:12:18 -0600, George
>>  wrote:

>>> If your city tax assessment has increased more than the 2.4%
>>> inflation certified by StatsCan, then perhaps you also are a victim
>>> of the crooks running Deadmonton?!!

>>> If you feel you are being overcharged, then do what you are entitled
>>> to do - FILE AN APPEAL!!

>>> The odds are in your favour, since more than 80% of appeals against
>>> the City, win!!

>>> Checking the website for this year's assessments, it seems that the
>>> city of Edmonton finally obeyed the ARB,regarding the dramatically
>>> UNDERASSESSED property owned by a city liar/lawyer!.
>>> The value now is $651,000, up from the ridiculous $149,500!!!

>>> If not CORRUPTION, then at least favouritism, when property
>>> UNDER-ASSESSED BY HALF MILLION DOLLARS!!

>>> Rumour has it that the city tax assessor responsible, is no longer
>>> employed by the city??
>>> Why should a private citizen have to take the City to Court, just to
>>> force the city to do a proper job, for which some slimeball is
>>> getting overpaid?


>>> From: heinrichhimmelfarb@xmail.net (HeinrichHimmelfarb)
>>> Newsgroups:
>>> edm.general,edm.politics,ab.general,ab.politics,can.general Subject:
>>> Re: Graft,Corruption Claimed in City Tax Appeal!! LAWYER TO GET
>>> TAXES QUADRUPLED!!
>>> Date: 2 Oct 2004 08:46:23 -0700

>>> It seems that even a lawyer will finally get his comeuppance.
>>> The ARB on Monday ordered the city tax assessment department to
>>> finally correct the improper assessment and bring the value up to
>>> what it should be.

>>> This means that in one year, the assessment had to jump from the
>>> massive under-assessment of $149,500 to at least $600,000 and
>>> probably $608,000!!!

>>> Even a damned lawyer can finally get what he deserves,when someone
>>> has the guts to force the issue into a court.

>>> How many other massive UNDER-ASSESSMENTS, FOR FRIENDS OF THE CITY
>>> MANAGERS ARE OUT THERE?


>>> heinrichhimmelfarb@xmail.net (HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote in message
>>> news:<8e4c980f.0409260720.3cd39d0f@posting.google.com>...
>>>> Regarding the article below,the City is now declining to appear
>>>> before the ARB, tomorrow at 3:30 in the afternoon!!

>>>> It seems that they do not want to name the city tax assessor
>>>> responsible for the more than $200,00 REDUCTION in the property tax
>>>> assessment of the city liar/lawyer!!

>>>> In their documents sent to the complainant, the City DOES CONFIRM
>>>> THE CORRECT VALUE AT MORE THAN $608,000!!

>>>> The tax appeal Court/ARB will be asked whether this constitutes
>>>> CORRUPTION, or/and CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE!!!

>>>> Sharx, and others annoyed with city mismanagement, care to comment?


>>>> heinrichhimmelfarb@xmail.net (HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote in message
>>>> news:<8e4c980f.0408050922.417b9108@posting.google.com>...
>>>>> City have in fact confirmed,and helped correct previous assessment
>>>>> value.
>>>>> It was actually $149,500, while the owners declared value,in
>>>>> writing, was $600,000!!

>>>>> No explanation from the cretins in the Tax Assessment section as to
>>>>> why they gave their buddy such a massive UNDER-ASSESSMENT!!
>>>>> This while they gouge small homeowners and apartment owners with
>>>>> massive tax hikes!!

>>>>> No wonder the number of appeals this year is allegedly double.
>>>>> Perhaps the citizens are finally getting mad enough for a tax
>>>>> revolt.

>>>>>> Apparently THIS scandal is but the tip of the iceberg, regarding
>>>>>> irregularities involving the city tax department.

>>>>>> Another case,coming up in court next week, relates to an
>>>>>> out-of-court settlement the city had to make un connection with the illegal
>>>>>> closure of the southbound access road for Calgary Trail at Ellerslie Road.
>>>>>> One of the property owners, incensed at his astronomical tax
>>>>>> assessment hike this year, is presenting to the tax appeal court, the evidence
>>>>>> that business plummeted, plus that the city had to pay one of the
>>>>>> businesses!!

>>>>>> The right hand did not know what the left did.....


>>>>>> starwars  wrote in message
>>>>>> news:...
>>>>>>> Can someone explain how a well-known liar/lawyer is able to get a
>>>>>>> massive UNDER-ASSESSMENT on his palatial property,which is
>>>>>>> knowingly under-assessed by more than $200,000.00!!

>>>>>>> This property, which the lawyer and spouse have declared to be
>>>>>>> worth at least $600,000 (yes six hundred thousands because it is
>>>>>>> huge,has law offices on ground floor plus apartments on second
>>>>>>> floor was assessed last year for less than a quarter of
>>>>>>> value,for only $148,000!!

>>>>>>> After the city tax department documented in city tax appeal
>>>>>>> Court last year, evidence of the real value of $600,000. now
>>>>>>> this year it is assessed for $393,500 - still more than $200,000
>>>>>>> UNDER-ASSESSED!!

>>>>>>> At the same time, neighbours are being OVER-ASSESSED by 20%!!

>>>>>>> Naturally, cynics wonder, who is on the take in the City?



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Subject: Re: $HALF MILLION UNDERASSESSED by Edmonton Tax Dept. Heads to Roll!! - MORE - Involving WEM? Repost
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One must wonder, how much is WEM DELIBERATELY UNDER-ASSESSED, 
compared to all the financing registered on the property?

Is someone in the city tax assessment department still on the take?

Will Scott Hennig soon have another news story for the media, this time about
WEM?


On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 09:11:49 -0700, Chief Instigator 
wrote:

Next installment and exposure of city tax department irregularities will be
before the ARB on 31st August 2006

>Can't get to MGB sooner, because of flood of appeals filed against crooked
>Edmonton tax department!!
>Seems I am not the only one proving they are crooks.

>Again, will be exposed for all to see, the evidence proving the City allowed
>the lawyer owning the property at 13723 - 93 St. to be deliberately
>underassessed by HALF A MILLION DOLLARS each year, for 8 years!

>In retaliation, the city assessors incresed the assessment of the man who
>exposed their graft by 4 TIMES THAT OF HIS NEIGHBOURS!!

>Notice that Bob Welldumb can not argue the FACTS!
>Is he one of the beneficiaries of the crooks in the city tax department?
>One must wonder why he is so sore about the lawyer finally being forced 
>to pay his proper share of city taxes!!

>Even the City Auditor is admitting he is aware of serious problems in certain
>departments, and is recommending an anonymous "snitch line" to save the 
>City many millions.

>He could start with the city tax assessment section, obviously!!
>Why should Grosvenor who is not paid by the city, have to do the work 
>of the overpaid city employees, who seem to be mainly crooks?

>As has been well documented, friends of the City seem to be able to get
>extremely favourable UNDER-ASSESSMENTS on THEIR properties, while 
>the average citizen has their property OVER-ASSESSED to make up for the
>shortfall!!

>Yes, the city website was operational in May and June, which allowed some of
>us the opportunity to get the PROOF, which will be used in the ARB city tax
>appeals, to PROVE GROSS OR CRIMINAL IRREGULARITIES by the city tax staffers!

>One must wonder, for whom is Merle Foresth working, since he seems to not care
>about massive irregularities!!


>On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 09:03:12 -0600, KenMcVayAIDS 
>wrote:

>>Newsgroups: edm.general, edm.politics, ab.general, calgary.general
>>From: "Brian Boulanger" 
>>Date: 30 Jun 2005 08:02:40 -0700
>>Local: Thurs,Jun 30 2005 10:02 am
>>Subject: Re: $Half MILLION Underassessed By City Tax Dept.-Heads to
>>Roll!!

>>You are completely correct.
>>Unfortunately, the bureaucrats on the city payroll trough have
>>consistently opposed any review, such as Zero Based Budgetting, or MBO
>>Management by Objectives, or any means of quantifying or/and justifying
>>their jobs!
>
>>They know, that if the top 50% of all bureaucrats were fired, there
>>would be absolutely no loss in the actual performance of the city
>>departments.
>
>>In fact, rumour is that performance, and cost/benefit would
>>dramatically improve!!
>
>>
>>Take the local cops for example. We pay seniors there from $120,000 to
>>$180,000 each,plus benefits. All are supposedly fluent in English.
>>Yet they waste over ONE MILLION DOLLARS for their BS hacks and flacks,
>>because they do not want to address the media themselves, but would
>>rather engage in empire building! The million wasted could go instead
>>to hiring some honest cops!
>>
>>As for the council members, there is only one - Mike Nickel - who
>>actually runs a real business, and even he was forced to move it out of
>>
>>Edmonton to Leduc!! The rest of council are all parasites, and lazy
>>ne'er-do-wells.
>>
>>Newsgroups: edm.general, edm.politics, ab.general, calgary.general
>>From: f...@bouncemail.ca - Find messages by this author
>>Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 21:29:23 GMT
>>Local: Fri,Jul 1 2005 4:29 pm
>>Subject: Re: $Half MILLION Underassessed By City Tax Dept.-Heads to
>>Roll!!
>>On 30 Jun 2005 08:02:40 -0700, "Brian Boulanger"  wrote:
>>>You are completely correct.
>>>Unfortunately, the bureaucrats on the city payroll trough have
>>>consistently opposed any review, such as Zero Based Budgetting, or MBO
>>>Management by Objectives, or any means of quantifying or/and justifying
>>>their jobs!
>>
>>>They know, that if the top 50% of all bureaucrats were fired, there
>>>would be absolutely no loss in the actual performance of the city
>>>departments.
>>
>>I believe you and actually have no doubt of this myself.
>>
>>>In fact, rumour is that performance, and cost/benefit would dramatically
>>>improve!!
>>
>>No doubt, look at all the duplication of services we now have. No
>>wonder it is more expensive to buy anything in Canada today then it is
>>to shop in the States. All people have to do is go to the web sites of
>>any governmnent and check out all the departments. See if there is any
>>overlap. Also, one has to take into consideration the use of
>>computers. Seems to me that it takes just as long to push paperwork
>>through as it did when I used to type on a standard typewriter. One
>>should ask themselves why? Too many hands....
>>
>>
>>>Take the local cops for example. We pay seniors there from $120,000 to
>>>$180,000 each,plus benefits. All are supposedly fluent in English.
>>>Yet they waste over ONE MILLION DOLLARS for their BS hacks and flacks,
>>>because they do not want to address the media themselves, but would
>>>rather engage in empire building! The million wasted could go instead
>>>to hiring some honest cops!
>>
>>I am not to sure what you mean here.
>>WHY SHOULD TAXPAYERS HAVE TO [AY MORE THAN A MILLION DOLLARS FOR A BS
>>SECTION AT POLICE HQ, WHEN WE ALREADY OVERPAY THE TOP COPS?!!
>>For what the chief and his deputy goons get paid, they should do their
>>own talking to the media, or else continue lying as their predecessors
>>did, until fired!!
>>
>>>As for the council members, there is only one - Mike Nickel - who
>>>actually runs a real business, and even he was forced to move it out of
>>>Edmonton to Leduc!! The rest of council are all parasites, and lazy
>>>ne'er-do-wells.
>>
>>With all the deductions that businesses get from the federal
>>government in income tax why did Mike Nickel have to move his business
>>to Leduc?
>>
>>PROBABLY BECAUSE THERE IS TOO MUCH ANTI-BUSINESS RED TAPE FOR ANY
>>HONEST BUSINESS TRYING TO SURVIVE IN DEADMONTON?
>>
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Did he originate the true saying, that faggots are good only for incineration?


On 29 Sep 2006 18:39:34 GMT, NY.Transfer.News@blythe.org wrote:

>Brit anti-Gay Bigot Escapes Prosecution for Hate Literature
>
>Via NY Transfer News Collective  *  All the News that Doesn't Fit
> 
>The Independent - Sep 29, 2006
>http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/legal/article1771850.ece
>
>Christian Voice director escapes prosecution over anti-gay literature
>
>By Terry Kirby, Chief Reporter
>
>For some, he is a much-needed voice against an increasingly Godless
>society, representing the views of a significant but largely silent
>section of the population.
>
>But for a great many others, Stephen Green, the director of Christian
>Voice, is a solitary individual, unrepresentative of wider opinion and
>only given prominence by the willingness of the media to offer him a
>platform.
>
>Yesterday, Mr Green was in the public eye once again, after the Crown
>Prosecution Service decided not to prosecute him for breaching public
>order at a gay festival in Cardiff this month, when he handed out
>leaflets quoting the Bible as saying same-sex sex was a sin.
>
>Charges against Mr Green, 54, who lives in Carmarthenshire, of using
>threatening behaviour or insulting words, or behaviour likely to cause
>harassment, alarm or distress, were dropped at a pre-trial hearing in
>Cardiff because of insufficient evidence.
>
>Mr Green responded by calling the Minorities Support Unit officer who
>arrested him a "pompous ass" from a "politically correct" unit and
>threatening to sue the police.
>
>It is such battles that Mr Green relishes - they give him the opportunity
>to expound his uncompromising views, which include opposition to
>abortion, which he likens to the Holocaust, and homosexuality, the
>subject of his lengthy book, The Sexual Dead End.
>
>"We live in Godless society, in which secular humanism has won over
>residual Christianity," he said.
>
>After many years as a fringe figure - most notably with the Conservative
>Family Campaign - Mr Green, a builder by trade, became full-time chairman
>of Christian Voice three years ago. Born in south London and raised as an
>Anglican, he says he is no longer a Conservative or an Anglican and now
>lives in west Wales, where he is a member of the local Pentecostal
>church.
>
>He came to prominence early last year when he campaigned against the
>BBC's decision to broadcast the multi-award winning "Jerry Springer - The
>Opera".
>
>Although his group is believed to have only a few hundred members - he
>will not say how many - they bombarded the BBC with letters and e-mails
>and placed the home addresses of senior executives on their website,
>causing a number to receive death threats.
>
>Subsequent campaigns and protests restricted a provincial tour of the
>show. He also persuaded Maggie's Centres for cancer sufferers to turn
>down a #10,000 donation from the show after threatening to picket the
>charity. The BBC was later criticised for inviting Mr Green to appear on
>Question Time and revised its policy on his group.
>
>He has also campaigned, without success, against the Gay Police
>Association, particularly the participation of officers in gay pride
>marches, which led to his arrest in Cardiff. He wrote to all the
>country's chief constables about the issue. All rejected his complaint
>and one, Terence Grange, the Chief Constable of Dyfed-Powys Police, wrote
>back: "As a lifelong practicing Catholic... I must advise you that I find
>your views morally offensive and totally reprehensible and I would be
>grateful if you would cease further communication."
>
>Mr Green also protested against Wayne Rooney's Nike adverts - condemned
>for "tasteless" use of Christian symbolism, a television documentary
>featuring anatomist Gunther von Hagens demonstrating the effects of a
>crucifixion, and the marriage of the Prince of Wales and Camilla Parker
>Bowles - on the basis that the latter was still married in the eyes of
>God.
>
>When Hurricane Katrina devastated New Orleans, Mr Green declared it was
>"God's wrath" and had brought "purity" to the city.
>
>While he has enjoyed some support from right-wing Christian groups and
>bodies such as Media-watchUK, the successor to Mary Whitehouse's National
>Viewers and Listeners Association, mainstream churches have distanced
>themselves. A Church of England spokesman said they were "aware" of his
>activities, but would not be drawn further.
>
>Some, however, have been more forthright: the Rev Dr David Peel, the
>Moderator of the General Assembly of the United Reformed Church said
>Christian Voice was "a small, self-selecting group distinguished mainly
>by its absurd claim to represent Christians". Bodies such as the National
>Secular Society and the British Humanist Association have also criticised
>Mr Green for being unrepresentative. "I think the media have given him an
>authority that he doesn't deserve," said Terry Sanderson, of the NSS.
>
>Surprisingly, Mr Green agrees: "There is absolutely no reason why I
>should have any prominence at all," he says, adding: "But things have a
>habit of capturing the public imagination."
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Alan, what is latest status of this matter?
Are snivel servants still ripping off taxpapyers, or will truckers now be
allowed same as crooked trough-feeders?


On 18 Mar 2005 12:16:44 -0800, alanbaggett1@canada.com (Alan Baggett) wrote:

>Here's the latest from:

>http://pei.cbc.ca/regional/servlet/View?filename=pe-truck20050318

>Truckers fight for better meal deductions  
>Last Updated Mar 18 2005 11:24 AM AST
>CBC News 
>CHARLOTTETOWN – Some P.E.I. truckers have joined a class action
>lawsuit against the Canada Revenue Agency. They want to be able to
>claim more money for meals while they're on the road.

>Summerside's Chris Murphy spends two weeks at a time rolling across
>North America in his truck, paying for three meals a day in roadside
>restaurants.
>
>He said when government employees are traveling they are paid up to
>$75 a day as compensation for their meals and related expenses.
>
>However, truckers are allowed to claim a maximum of $23 a day as a
>business expense. Murphy believes the numbers should be the same.
>
>The court case was filed in British Columbia Supreme Court in 2002.
>
>Ernie Slump, the publisher of Trucker Magazine launched the suit.
>Since then, he has added the names of 3,000 truckers to the case.
>
>He believes the federal government is trying to delay the case.
>
>"We thought we might go to court in April or May, but we think now
>that the government may drag it out further until after the next
>election because this could very well become an election issue."
>
>Murphy said he just wants the same provisions as other people who have
>to leave home for work.
>
>The federal Department of Finance won't say if deductions for meals on
>the road might be raised.
>
>
>
>canadarevenueagency@hotmail.com (Alan Baggett) wrote in message news:<8b49ba6a.0503071010.32b5b558@posting.google.com>...
>> http://www.todaystrucking.com/displayarticle.cfm?ID=3824
>> 
>> Law firm files meal allowance suit 
>> 
>> SUMMERLAND, B.C. (Mar. 7, 2005) -- B.C. law firm Johnston, Johnson &
>> Co. has filed a class-action suit on behalf of 11 truck drivers
>> seeking to overturn the unfair meal allowance portion of the federal
>> tax policy.
>> The Summerland, B.C.-based lawyers are asking the Supreme Court of
>> British Columbia to strike down a section of the Income Tax Act
>> dealing with the deduction of their meals while they are on the road.
>> 
>> "Essentially, we looked at whether truckers, bus drivers, and other
>> workers that travel for a living could unite in one cause to get
>> parity with government workers," says Tom Johnston, lead counsel on
>> the case in a statement that appears on the firm's website.
>> "Government employees receive a meal allowance of $73.10 [an amount
>> that fluctuates on a quarterly basis according to the Consumer Price
>> Index] per day plus U.S. exchange (if they were traveling in the US),
>> without receipts."
>> 
>> In the Statement of Claim, it is asserted by the plaintiffs (the
>> truckers) that CCRA [formerly Revenue Canada] "through [its]
>> administrative policies, have ruled that some of the Plaintiffs and
>> some of the Class are not entitled to a meal allowance greater than
>> $16.50 before 2003, and, $22.50 after 2003, while other taxpayers
>> received more money for meals, including allowing some, the fair meal
>> allowance rate."
>> 
>> Further, the Plaintiffs claim that the decision to allow some
>> individuals to claim a greater amount than others is unfair and
>> discriminatory, and without adequate reason.
>> 
>> Johnston says he hopes for truckers to gain parity with federal civil
>> servants covered by the Treasury Board Secretariat Travel Directive.
>> "We're also seeking to strike down the 50 percent aspect of the rule,"
>> he says. "That applies to business meals, and in the case of our
>> clients, that's clearly not the case.
>> 
>> "In the civil servants' case, he or she is consuming meals for
>> sustenance, as are truck drivers. Allowing one group a more generous
>> allowance than others isn't fair. It's clearly a discriminatory
>> practice, and the Canadian Charter of Rights makes no room for
>> distinction between one class of citizens and another."
>> 
>> Drivers wishing to join the class action may still do so by contacting
>> Johnston & Johnson at their B.C. offices, or by visiting the website.
>> If the lawsuit is successful, only those registered and paid-up of the
>> class action may be able to claim retroactive meal allowances, the
>> firm says.
>> 
>> There is a $200 fee to join the class action. Those already in the
>> class action will need to pay an additional $100.00 to remain in the
>> lawsuit. For more information, see www.summerlandlawoffice.com or
>> call, 800-494-0442.



From KenSpenser@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:56:02 EDT 2007
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The original poster had asked, whether there are people willing to pay towards
a one-way ticket to China for child molester Whitmore, and all his crooked
judges.

There, the Chinese government really dislikes fags, whom they consider vermin,
and suitable for organ harvesting, provided not too diseased with AIDS and the
like.

I would gladly join in making a modest contribution, if there is an organised
fund to dispose of Whitmore and all his judges.

This is NOT a death threat, merely an offer to contribute towards having the
government of China dispose of this garbage.



On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 01:39:47 -0700, Vishnu - destroyer of Nazi Coughlan's
support of the Shoah  wrote:
>On 10 Feb 2006 02:02:39 -0800, "Phillipe 'Kill the infidels' Coughlan"
> wrote:
>>James 'the Humble' Noles a écrit :

>No... James 'the  Humble' did not post the comment that the liar
>Nazi Coughlan attempts to attribute to me.

>>> If the Chinese are so efficient at getting rid of their criminals, perhaps
>>> they would accept Dezi, for vivisection, parts,or similar?

>>> There must be enough people willing to contribute towards a one-way ticket for
>>> Dezi to China??

>>Why not spare the expense, NN, 

>You're a liar, and the scum of the earth, NC.   And you use the method
>that you've used here because you know I expose you, using only
>your words.  It must be terrible, being you.  To which Nazi Coughlan
>replies -- "It's not easy."  But you've attempted this before.  When
>you have an enemy you try to use any lie, any evil, any sickness
>on your part to hide your own evil.  But all you do, is heap evil
>upon the evil that is already a part of you.  Sick... sick... sick...

>> and send someone to murder me?  After
>>all, you're the only poster to AADP to have publicly called for a
>>contract to be taken out on me ..
>>
>
>LOL... Still lying I see.   Your attempt to transform my word "might"
>into "should" or "hope," is juvenile, but then you are famous for being
>juvenile.  The number of logical fallacies that exist in your attempt
>exceed any reasonable expectation for you to look like anything other
>than a fool for even trying.  For starters -- it violates --
>
>http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#hominem
>http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#slope
>http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#elenchi
>http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#noncausa
>http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#reification
>http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#misericordiam
>http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#nonseq
>http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#bifurcation
>http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#logicam
>http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#baculum
>http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#complexq
>http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#circulus
>http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#alterapars
>http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#ignorantiam
>http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#nauseam
>http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#herring
>and finally --
>http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#strawman
>
>Each of those logical fallacies exist within your attempt to
>transform my comment into meaning an attempt to have
>you killed.  You're a very sick man, but there is no law
>against that, and you are the best thing that ever happened
>to retention as far as the argument of the DP in AADP.
>
>
>Planet Visitor II
>http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/dict.html
>
>Hey, gentle reader.  Want to see Nazi Coughlan express
>his affection for the life of Kenneth McDuff over the life
>of his own wife.  Pay attention.  here's the proof --
>
>"The murder of an innocent by a wrongly released murderer is the lesser of two
>evils." --  Nazi Coughlan.  See --  
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/45ad448fc2e7ab95
>
>Okay, gentle reader.  This is obviously a fallacy of
>http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#generalization
>
>An over-generalization, expecting it to be a reasonable argument from a
>reasonable person, yet failing to verify he actually believes it, once
>specific, not-generalized examples are plugged into his comment.
>So first, we need to addresss the issue of who he argues are included
>in that generalized group of "an innocent."  If his argument holds for
>ALL "innocents," then by reason we can plug in a specific value of
>a specific person having a personal connection to the author of the
>comment.  Doing so, we can use his wife, since he has not excluded
>her, and has in fact offered her up to a murder in another of his comments.
>This would be his comment: --
>
>"For principled abolitionists, it would not matter if the murderer killed
>our children, our mothers, our wives.... We _still_ would not support
> their execution."  See --
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/fdbc7222cf664006
>
>Now that we have determined a specific "innocent" that he accepts as
>a value to plug in, his comment can be stated as -- "The murder of
>"my wife"by a wrongly released murderer is the lesser of two evils."
>
>Okay... now we need to examine a SPECIFIC example of "wrongly
>released murderer," if his comment is to remain valid throughout the
>spectrum of ALL "wrongly released murderers," since his comment
>was generalized to ALL "wrongly released murderers."  And we have
>the specific example of Kenneth McDuff.  See --
>http://www.geocities.com/verbal_plainfield/i-p/mcduff.html
>
>So if the author of that original comment, Nazi Coughlan, wishes it
>to actually represent a valid comment as written it must be valid
>for all values.  Thus it appears that he believes that this also
>represents his view, using particular values of "his wife" and
>Kenneth McDuff, so he words mean -- "The murder of my wife
>by Kenneth McDuff is the lesser of two evils."  The greater
>evil being in Nazi Coughlan's view, the execution of Kenneth
>McDuff as originally scheduled for a number of other murders
>before murdering Nazi Coughlan's wife.  Oh my... do you really
>love the life of Kenneth McDuff more than the life of your
>wife?  What's going on with you?

>>Y.



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On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 04:32:48 GMT, Sew  wrote:
>On 30 Mar 2006 02:15:16 -0000, Dump The Crooks 
>wrote:

>>Canadian Taxpayers Association has exposed what many Edmonton taxpayers have
>>long suspected.

>>Because the city council and mayor pay themselves by having one third TAXFREE,
>>unlike most honest taxpayers, they are in fact way overpaid for the scams they
>>are endorsing.

>>CTA have confirmed that city councillors are in fact getting the equivalent of
>>$85,110 per year, which is more than other cities are paying.

>>The mayor is seriously overpaid, getting the equivalent of $167,870 a year!!
>>This means that the mayor of Deadmonton gets $6,000 more than Ralph Klein,
>>Premier of Alberta!!

>>Time to dump ALL the mayor and Council, and replace them with honest, hard-working
>>councillors getting a basic pay of $52,000 a year - PLUS BONUSES BASED ON LOWER TAXES
>>AND BETTER PERFORMANCE OF CITY ESSENTIAL FUNCTIONS!

>>At the same time, Council should implement ZBB - Zero Based Budgetting, and fire
>>all unnecessary city managers, and close down non-appropriate city departments.
>>Let the federal and provincial governments operate those functions which are THEIR responsibilities, 
>>such as arts, sports,multiculuralism, and welfare, to name a few.

>>Sharx, Sew, Grosvenor - care to comment?

>I am in TOTAL AGREEMENT. I am tired of politicians thinking they can
>just run for office and then increase homeowners taxes just so they
>can give themselves more and more raises. It is NOT RIGHT no matter
>who they are paying to say that it is. The cost of living in Edmonton
>is way lower than Calgary or Toronto, there are fewer people living in
>Edmonton, and most of all which of the people that are running this
>city have a university degree?? After all, in order to make that kind
>of money most people NEED to have a university degree. 

You do not need to have a university degree to be a capable administrator of
billions of dollars.

You should at least be a successful BUSINESS OWNER.
Out of current 13 clowns on council, apparaently only Mike Nickel owns a
successful business.

Further, council members should be HONEST, and not support corruption and
criminality, and similar. This council went so far as to give a payoff of HALF
A MILLION DOLLARS to the former disgraced chief cop, who had been fired for
just cause!!

No honest, competent business managers would have colluded as they did!!



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It was the crooked Edmonton cops, who willingly gave their name to this scam,
so that the Police Hockey team would get publicity.

Because they are cops, they can not plead ignorance, of the laws!!

Just another scam involving crooked Edmonton cops, what?


On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 15:58:35 GMT, "PV"  wrote:
>"Asterix"  wrote in message 
>news:h6bv32hi1ur7da598ubcid0ic0jovabblm@4ax.com...
>> The Edmonton Journal, in a banner headline story on page B1 of today's
>> paper, exposes yet another swindle involving Edmonton's crooked cops!!
>>
>> They exposed a so-called CHARITY SCAM, for a so-called "benefit" game
>> run under the style of "Oldtimers Hockey Challenge".
>>
>> This scam collected more than $250,000 through fraudulent telephone
>> solicitors, claiming the money was going to a charity.
>>
>> In fact, only $20,000 actually goes to a local women's shelter safe
>> house.
>>
>> Almost all the money goes to a scam business called Xentel DM Inc, out
>> of Calgary, not even a local business. In the USA, XENTEL has been the
>> subject of investigations alleging deceptive telemarketing, as well as
>> for breaching do-not-call laws.
>>
>> In Iowa, in November 2004, Xentel was forced to stop abusive and
>> misleading calls in fundraising and solicitations, and was forced to
>> pay $30,000 in penalties.
>>
>> Since almost all the money goes to a for-profit business, rather than
>> to a registered charity, why isn't the provincial government charging
>> the crooks and their sponsors with FRAUD?
>>
>> This scam was being promoted by the Edmonton Police Faded Blues
>> Hockey team.
>>
>> Just one more scandal for the new chief to clean up!
>
>Funny my Journal says "Big Drainage Bill coming"
>
>Xentel approached the faded blues, set it up, organized it and then skimmed 
>85% of the money.  This is a Xentel scam, not a police scam, the police 
>hired the wrong organization.
>
>Of course so did the Organ Donation and Transplant Association of Canada.  I 
>am not calling them corrupt but told them I would not donate anything to 
>Xentel who would pull the same scam.
>
>It's time the Alberta government shut down this company, or force them to 
>clean up their act.
>
>PV 
>



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On 30 May 2006 16:57:18 -0700, "His Divine Shadow"
 wrote:

>Asterix wrote:
>> When places like Edmonton get worldwide publicity for POLICE TORTURING
>> INNOCENT CIVILIANS; punk kids murder bus passenger and cops don't
>> bother to attend for over half an hour; many cops now charged with
>> tasering people; all the hooligans amok on Whyte Avenue while cops
>> stand by with fingers up their butts.
>
>FEAR! UNCERTANTY! DOUBT!
>
>Obviously, based on these hyperbolic and unsupportable statements, the
>only recourse is to panic.

I guess you can not afford to get newspapers, nor do you have a TV.

The media for the past few months have been reporting so many
incidents of crooked cops in Edmonton, one must wonder whether there
are any HONEST cops in that place.

Even the former police chief had to be fired for just cause.

Then, TV showed all the goons in town rioting, smashing store windows,
setting fires in the streets, and basically looking like somewhere in
darkest Africa.

Would any sane person want to go there as a tourist>
Of course, not!


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On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:38:35 -0700, Brian Blankski
 wrote:

>The original article, claiming to be from the anti-zionist William
>Grosvenor, is an obvious FORGERY!!

>It seems that some of the filthy jews just do not like the TRUTH that
>his supporters, and alex/amigocabal, have been posting.

>As they say, if it seems to good to be true, it is.
>Grosvenor would never support the Zionazis
>or diseased AIDS-spreading fags. 
>He believes that faggots are good only for incineration.

>In fact, Grosvenor the human has not been posting now for several
>years, having his thoughts posted worldwide by others around the world
>who are similarly fed up with the problems caused by one group.
>In Poland are now many normal thinking people who agree with the
>former statements and documentation from Grosvenor.

>It seems that a certain diseased ,now dying AIDS-spreader, and some of
>his butt-buddies are behind the flood of forged articles.



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What is the demented skank muttering about this time?

Since when is ChrisX a Grosvomit, as she claims?

Is her AIDS affecting what is left of the dinosaurus brain, buried
somewhere in all that blubber?

On 2 Sep 2006 13:07:58 -0700, "Ariadne"  wrote:

>He DID  NOT  forge:
>...again and again and again ad nauseam.

These are the best pictures I can find of me, LOL...
With all my email addresses used by Ariadne, one must wonder: 
is that a blubberbutt spouting off?
Spouting Hot Air: http://tinyurl.com/apzwp
Isn't 'Ariadne' the literal for (female) "spawn of Satan?"
The "spawn" on her treadmill... http://tinyurl.com/qomwc



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If she/it wasn't so repulsive, the pictures would be laughable...


On 3 Sep 2006 18:23:16 -0000, Ariadne@mac.hush.com
  wrote:

>These are the best pictures I can find of me, LOL...
>Spouting Hot Air: http://tinyurl.com/apzwp

>Isn't 'Ariadne' the literal for (female) "spawn of Satan?"
>The "spawn" on her treadmill... http://tinyurl.com/qomwc

>This is one from when she was up on a midnight run to the
>refridgerator:
>http://tinyurl.com/rxum3

>Arid-Asshole at a ladies only Sumo Swim-Meet in Sheffield:
>http://tinyurl.com/p2zbq

>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org

>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>is a revolutionary act."
>(George Orwell)

>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

>"All truth passes through three stages.
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)

>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant

>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant
>Reply-To: "George" ,
>or to Ariadne@mac.hush.com, or Ariadne.mac@gmail.com
>Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like.
>



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On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 10:24:33 -0400, Johannes v Ebersdorf 
wrote:

>On Tue, 05 Sep 2006 15:27:39 -0600, SueShiksaCohen
> wrote:

>>Canadian Jew News on page 2 of their issue for March 24 2005, want all the
>>world to know that in the Czech Republic, it is now legal to publish Hitler's
>>"MEIN  KAMPF".

>>Michael Zitko was the Czech publisher of the Czech-language edition of this
>>renowned work, and on March 10 this year he was cleared of all charges,which
>>were laid in year 2000.

>>Before the police charged him, over 90,000 copies of MEIN KAMPF had been sold
>>in a very short time.

>You can buy the thing, in English translation,  at practically any
>book store in Canada, so why pick on the Czech Republic?

The OP was commenting on the Czech republic being more rational, than many
Euro nations!!



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The only good fag, or/and AIDS-spreader is an immolated one!!
The ashes from his death at least then will no longer harm anyone.

On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 14:09:42 +0100, "Chris X"  wrote:

>More proof - if it were ever needed - that "asylum seekers" are nothing but 
>liars, rapists, job-thieves And HIV-ridden perverts !

>http://tinyurl.com/zt5jx

>An asylum seeker who had sex with scores of women while he worked illegally 
>at a British campsite has given at least six HIV.
>Caravan salesman Everson Banda, 29, who was deported back to his home of 
>Zimbabwe last month before news of his disease fully emerged.

>He worked at a caravan park in Essex for two years and slept with 13 members 
>of staff and a number of holidaymakers during three seasons.

>It was only after immigration officials had removed him that they discovered 
>letters in his caravan from lawyers of women who claimed he had given them 
>HIV.
>
>They named up to five distraught lovers infected with the virus - which 
>causes Aids - after having sex with Banda who calls himself 'Ace'.
>
>Panic spread through the Orchards Holiday Village near Clacton-on-Sea and a 
>staff member also tested positive - she said Banda was the only man she had 
>slept with.
>
>The burly African, whose own health had been failing, was removed by the 
>immigration service on August 19.
>
>He was arrested for overstaying and thrown out after he admitted his claim 
>that he faced imprsionment, torture or death in Zimbabwe was false.
>
>A Home Office source said that if they had known Banda had the infection 
>before he flew home he may have faced a police investigation.
>
>**************************
>
>"There is only one start you can make, and that is a start toward being
>England. A refusal to be a province of Israel, or an outpost of
>Yankee-Judaea."
>
> -Ezra Pound
>
>http://www.iamanenglishman.com/
>http://www.arabeuropean.org/article.php?ID=97
>http://holywar.org/indexholy.html
>http://www.thirdway.org
>http://www.irancartoon.com/
>http://www.nowarforisrael.com
>http://www.no2id.org
>http://www.liberty-human-rights.org.uk/resources/big-brother.pdf
>



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The only good fag, or/and AIDS-spreader is an immolated one!!
The ashes from his death at least then will no longer harm anyone.

On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 14:09:42 +0100, "Chris X"  wrote:

>More proof - if it were ever needed - that "asylum seekers" are nothing but 
>liars, rapists, job-thieves And HIV-ridden perverts !

>http://tinyurl.com/zt5jx

>An asylum seeker who had sex with scores of women while he worked illegally 
>at a British campsite has given at least six HIV.
>Caravan salesman Everson Banda, 29, who was deported back to his home of 
>Zimbabwe last month before news of his disease fully emerged.

>He worked at a caravan park in Essex for two years and slept with 13 members 
>of staff and a number of holidaymakers during three seasons.

>It was only after immigration officials had removed him that they discovered 
>letters in his caravan from lawyers of women who claimed he had given them 
>HIV.
>
>They named up to five distraught lovers infected with the virus - which 
>causes Aids - after having sex with Banda who calls himself 'Ace'.
>
>Panic spread through the Orchards Holiday Village near Clacton-on-Sea and a 
>staff member also tested positive - she said Banda was the only man she had 
>slept with.
>
>The burly African, whose own health had been failing, was removed by the 
>immigration service on August 19.
>
>He was arrested for overstaying and thrown out after he admitted his claim 
>that he faced imprsionment, torture or death in Zimbabwe was false.
>
>A Home Office source said that if they had known Banda had the infection 
>before he flew home he may have faced a police investigation.
>
>**************************
>
>"There is only one start you can make, and that is a start toward being
>England. A refusal to be a province of Israel, or an outpost of
>Yankee-Judaea."
>
> -Ezra Pound
>
>http://www.iamanenglishman.com/
>http://www.arabeuropean.org/article.php?ID=97
>http://holywar.org/indexholy.html
>http://www.thirdway.org
>http://www.irancartoon.com/
>http://www.nowarforisrael.com
>http://www.no2id.org
>http://www.liberty-human-rights.org.uk/resources/big-brother.pdf
>



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Subject: Re: GEKO-Wo Ist $32 MILLIONEN Plant in Edmonton Kanada,nach 3 Jahre? Geld Verschwunden?
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Man muss wundern, wer hat die $32 MILLIONEN, wenn das Plant existiert nicht?


On Mon, 29 May 2006 12:14:42 -0600, Joe Bruno  wrote:

>In a half page headline story in the Edmonton Journal today in December, the
>report complains that even after more than 3 years, THERE IS STILL NOT EVEN
>THE START OF CONSTRUCTION OF THE GEKO GARBAGE COMPUTER 
>RECYCLING PLANT IN EDMONTON,CANADA!!
>
>Because of the non-existence of the GEKO recycling plant, there is now 3235
>tonnes of computers piled at the site. This has caused criticism from the
>Electronic Recycling Corporation of Alberta, who recycle usable computers for
>charities. They see the waste of usable computers in the open air stockpiles,
>in mud and water because GEKO is not functioning, as being against the best
>interests of the public, and charities.
>
>Dieter Obergfell, of GEKO, explaining from Essen, , now claims that
>construction MIGHT start this August, 3 years later than originally proposed.
>
>From: Ken Levi 
>Newsgroups:
>de.soc.wirtschaft,de.soc.politik.misc,soc.culture.german,soc.culture.germany
>Subject: Re: GEKO-Who Is Pocketing Extra $28 MILLION?? WER
>PROFITIERT,Bundesfinanzamt?
>Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:28:28 -0700
>
>When GEKO claims that they will be spending more than 10 TIMES what
>the successful competitor MAXUS paid for their plant, and when MAXUS
>even paid for their land which GEKO will not, one has to ask, WHO IS
>GETTING THE EXTRA 28 MILLIONEN??
>
>Has Bundesfinanzamt approved the removal of the more than 30 millionen
>from Germany?
>
>Have the shareholders of GEKO been given all the facts regarding the
>disappearance of this money from their control?
>
>
>On 9 Nov 2004 00:39:27 -0000, Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header
>(DanChristensen) wrote:
>
>>Here in Canada, people have another extremely interesting question, which manager of
>>GEKO Recycling Technologies Dieter Obergfell can not answer!!
>>WHY IS THE EDMONTON CANADA GARBAGE PROJECT FOR GEKO GOING TO COST 30 MILLIONEN,
>>since they do not have to pay for the land of 5 acres?
>
>>In the nearby community of Ryley, the competitor doing the same work,
>>MAXUS TECHNOLOGTY CORPORATION, paid under
>>$3 millionen, which included the cost for their land!!
>
>>WHO IS POCKETING THE EXTRA $27 MILLIONEN? WER PROFITIERT?
>
>
>>An interesting question for Deutsche Bundesfinanzamt - Did GEKO pay the taxes 
>>in Germany, on the 30 million they say they will spend/lose
>>in Edmonton, Canada?
>
>
>>A local paper in Edmonton,Canada is reporting that the firm GEKO, division of DiHAG/GEKO
>>is supposed to be spending $30 million for a computer recycling plant at the 
>>local garbage dump.
>
>>It is not clear why GEKO are building this overpriced facility.
>
>>For more than 3 years, a competitor, MAXUS Technology Corporation, has been in 
>>business in a nearby town.
>>MAXUS have also made contracts with communities throughout western Canada and 
>>also the USA, to have trainloads of computers and similar
>>materials available for processing, leaving next to no product for GEKO!!
>
>>Because GEKO did NOT build when they said they would, 2 years ago, the mayor 
>>was defeated in his bid for re- election this week!!
>
>
>>Subject: Germany Continues Boycott of Deadmonton
>>Date: 1999/07/25
>>Message-ID: <199907251430.QAA17273@mail.replay.com>#1/1
>>Newsgroups: edm.general,ab.general,soc.culture.german
>
>>The media report that no businesses from Germany bothered
>>to attend this year's Klondike Days in Deadmonton, (Edmonton)Canada
>
>>Even though GERMANY was the featured nation.
>
>>Could this perhaps have something to do with the snubbing
>>by Burgermeister ARSCHLOCH Smith, of the international trade
>>delegation from Germany, whom he REFUSED to meet?
>
>>Smith refused to meet with the large delegation of people from Berlin,
>>who had been scheduled by both the provincial government trade office,
>>as well as City Hall.
>
>>The trade delegation after being snubbed by Smith, then went on to
>>Calgary, where they were welcomed. They also did do considerable
>>business, in the pro-business city, unlike the welfare  dump of
>>Deadmonton.
>
>>This INTERNATIONAL INCIDENT was documented in detail in the
>>Edmonton Journal 3 times - 1 December 1995 on page B2,
>>on 12 January 1996 on page B3, and again on 28 March 1996 on page A14.
>
>>The media in Germany carried many articles, denouncing the
>>anti-German actions of Burgermeister ARSCHLOCH.
>
>>It seems that even though slick Willy squanders piles of
>>taxpayer dollars wining and dining and traipsing off to
>>Germany, the businesspeople there still remember him as
>>Burgermeister Arschloch.
>
>>That is why Deadmonton is still blackballed by thinking Germans.
>
>>Now, slick Willy is trying to con some Germans running GEKO to
>>build a recycling plant for computers, WITHOUT TELLING THEM THAT
>>THEY ARE TOO LATE!!
>
>>Another local firm MAXUS TECHNOLOGY INC. has built a multi-million dollar 
>>facility near Edmonton, already operating, to handle millions of tonnes of old computers from all over 
>>Canada and the USA!!
>
>>Are Germans so stupid as to believe a mayor, whose own business as
>>a used tire dealer went under?? Ask Michelin about B & D Tiretown,
>>or even ask Jan Reimer who brought it up in the election campaign...
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At least the government of Indonesia know what to do with garbage people, such
as drug dealers.

They know, as do other sensible governments in the area, that an executed
criminal will never re-offend!!

Further, an executed waste of skin, will not cost the taxpayers for the upkeep
in some pampering prison system!!

If only the justice systems in Australia & North America would follow suit!!!
Oz could start by executing the 4 Canadian drug trafickers it just arrested!!


On 17 Feb 2006 18:43:24 -0800, "LifeManTalking"  wrote:

>AUSTRALIA - Few Australians have much sympathy for Andrew Chan and
>Myuran Sukumaran, the two drug traffickers sentenced to death in Bali
>this week for their failed bid to smuggle more than 8kg of heroin on to
>the streets of Sydney.

>The lives of too many of their young people have been destroyed by
>drugs and, as innumerable letters to newspapers and callers to talkback
>radio have pointed out, Chan and Sukumaran could never have been in any
>doubt of the risk they took in running narcotics through Indonesia.

>But the prospect of the pair being taken from Kerobokan jail, tied to a
>tree in some lonely clearing, and shot by a paramilitary firing squad
>raises deep and disturbing moral, political and diplomatic dilemmas for
>a nation that last executed a criminal almost 40 years ago and now
>opposes the death penalty worldwide.

>Their own police provided the information that inevitably led to
>Tuesday's sentence. Their Government welcomed the death penalty given
>to the Bali bombers but opposes the same fate for Australian drug
>traffickers, and public opinion is repulsed by the prospect of
>executions at home but inconsistently accepts them abroad.

>It is a diplomatic minefield that Canberra traversed when
>Vietnamese-born Melburnian Van Tuong Nguyen was hanged in Singapore in
>December for taking heroin through Changi airport, despite Australian
>appeals for clemency.

>It is also a minefield that the nation will confront time and again:
>despite repeated warnings and the appalling reality of executions,
>there will always be people foolish enough to strap drugs to their
>bodies or conceal it in their luggage.

>Almost all will pass through Southeast Asia, the source of most of
>Australia's heroin (the Bali Nine consignment originated in Thailand)
>and where every country but Cambodia compulsorily hangs, shoots or
>lethally injects traffickers.

>Mike Phelan, the head of international operations for the Australian
>Federal Police and the man responsible for giving Indonesia the
>information it needed to arrest the Bali Nine, sees no end to the queue
>of couriers the trade calls "mules".

>"It continues to astound me that people attempt importations and move
>drugs through transit countries knowing that the death penalty exists,"
>he told ABC's Australian Story. "Many young lives get thrown away for
>the law of quick dollars."

>The AFP's role in the arrest of the Bali Nine is among the most
>sensitive of the issues facing Prime Minister John Howard, who has
>already weathered a barrage of criticism that has extended even into
>his own party room.

>The AFP caught the first whispers of a major heroin importing run in
>February last year and, in April, asked the Indonesian police to help
>uncover the members of the syndicate and the source of their supplies.

>Between them, the two forces discovered most of the names and built a
>remarkably accurate picture of their operation, including details of a
>previous successful run and another aborted attempt.

>This co-operation has become increasingly commonplace, spurred by the
>determination of all countries in the region to attack drug trafficking
>and terrorism. Intelligence swapping is required under a number of
>treaties.

>"We make no secret of the fact that the AFP has a policy of forward
>engagement where we want to stop the crimes at the source and (prevent
>them) from reaching Australian shores," Phelan said. "That's a practice
>we will continue to operate within."

>What worries many Australians is the fact that the AFP in effect turned
>over a group of young Australians to a country it knew was likely to
>execute them, rather than arresting them when they arrived home.

>The most emotional response centred on Scott Rush, 20, a drug mule who
>was jailed for life. His family, through lawyer Bob Myers, vainly asked
>the AFP to warn Rush of their interest before he left Australia.

>"No Australian public servant has the right to expose any Australian
>citizen to the death penalty," Myers told Australian Story.

>Rush and fellow mules Renae Lawrence, Martin Stephens and Michael
>Czugaj took the AFP to the Federal Court, claiming it had acted
>illegally by exposing them to the death penalty.

>While a large part of public opinion agreed, the court dismissed the
>action.

>The Government has also sidestepped criticism, pointing out that while
>the relevant treaty with Indonesia contains a clause allowing the
>Attorney-General to refuse to provide evidence if an Australian was
>charged with an offence carrying the death penalty, the AFP was free to
>do as it thought best until charges were laid.

>By the time the Bali Nine were formally charged, all the damaging
>evidence had been gathered.

>Phelan is unrepentant: "Basically all transit countries through which
>drugs come to Australia have the death penalty. The AFP cannot pick and
>choose who it chooses to cooperate with."

>International teamwork in the past few years has significantly reduced
>the flow of drugs into Australia. The most recent Australian Crime
>Commission figures, for 2003-04, show the lowest seizures of heroin for
>a decade.

>Refusal to co-operate abroad would outrage regional governments and
>threaten mutual action against other drug syndicates and terrorism.

>Public opinion in Southeast Asia also strongly favours the death
>penalty for traffickers, with polls in Singapore and Thailand showing
>support of up to 80 per cent.

>In Australia, opinion is more confused. A Morgan poll in November found
>that while only 27 per cent of Australians favoured the death penalty
>for murder, 57 per cent believed drug traffickers caught in Asia should
>die.

>Yet in the specific case of Van Nguyen, opinion was evenly divided.

>In The Australian, a newspoll found that more than 50 per cent of
>Australians favoured the death sentence for people convicted of major
>acts of terrorism.

>Howard now has to weigh all these conflicting factors in framing
>Canberra's approach to the executions of Chan and Sukumaran. He has
>said publicly he has no sympathy for the two men but will vigorously
>pursue Australia's long-standing opposition to the death penalty.

>How that is carried out will test Australian diplomacy.

>Apart from the risks to a fragile relationship, observers have pointed
>out that any blunt approach will almost certainly stiffen backs in
>Jakarta and end any chance of clemency.

>Hopes of saving Chan and Sukumaran now rest with Indonesia's
>inconsistent record in carrying out executions, the fact that in recent
>times only three of the more than 85 prisoners on death row have been
>shot, and the lengthy legal road still to be travelled.

>It may be years before their case moves through the Denpasar provincial
>High Court and the two reviews possible through the Supreme Court in
>Jakarta.

>And though President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono has said he will never
>grant clemency to drug traffickers, time and quiet diplomacy may change
>his mind.

>Death penalty Australia's double dilemma 
>
>18.02.06
>By Greg Ansley



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Does this mean, that in Britain as well as in Canada, the TRUTH is no defence?

What ethnic minority is really controlling what one thinks, and what one can
believe, and what one is taught, and what one may read without fear of
prosecution?

Will Ellis be another vcictim like Irving, Zuendel, Rudolf and similar around
the world?


On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 06:37:52 +0000, Paul Hyett 
wrote:
>In uk.politics.misc on Thu, 23 Mar 2006, Chris X
> wrote :
>>
>>The problem is, as I have previously predicted -
>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/4838498.stm
>>
>>A lecturer who suggested ethnicity could influence average intelligence 
>>levels has been suspended from his job.
>>Dr Frank Ellis was suspended from his post as a lecturer at Leeds University 
>>pending disciplinary procedures.
>>
>>The university emphasised that the suspension was not itself a penalty but 
>>said it had been deemed appropriate given "the seriousness of the issues".
>>
>>>> Let's see how long the University stick to that line, shall we ?
>>
>>Well, well - it didn't take them long to go from saying that he was "free to 
>>hold and express his views despite what the protesters think" to suspending 
>>him - doubtless with a view to sacking him or forcing him to resign - due to 
>>the "seriousness of the issue".
>
>In other words, pressure from 'various sources'...
>
>It seems it's OK to point out differences in physical abilities between
>races, but not intellectual ones.



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At least the government of Indonesia know what to do with garbage people, such
as drug dealers.

They know, as do other sensible governments in the area, that an executed
criminal will never re-offend!!

Further, an executed waste of skin, will not cost the taxpayers for the upkeep
in some pampering prison system!!

If only the justice systems in Australia & North America would follow suit!!!
Oz could start by executing the 4 Canadian drug trafickers it just arrested!!


On 17 Feb 2006 18:43:24 -0800, "LifeManTalking"  wrote:

>AUSTRALIA - Few Australians have much sympathy for Andrew Chan and
>Myuran Sukumaran, the two drug traffickers sentenced to death in Bali
>this week for their failed bid to smuggle more than 8kg of heroin on to
>the streets of Sydney.

>The lives of too many of their young people have been destroyed by
>drugs and, as innumerable letters to newspapers and callers to talkback
>radio have pointed out, Chan and Sukumaran could never have been in any
>doubt of the risk they took in running narcotics through Indonesia.

>But the prospect of the pair being taken from Kerobokan jail, tied to a
>tree in some lonely clearing, and shot by a paramilitary firing squad
>raises deep and disturbing moral, political and diplomatic dilemmas for
>a nation that last executed a criminal almost 40 years ago and now
>opposes the death penalty worldwide.

>Their own police provided the information that inevitably led to
>Tuesday's sentence. Their Government welcomed the death penalty given
>to the Bali bombers but opposes the same fate for Australian drug
>traffickers, and public opinion is repulsed by the prospect of
>executions at home but inconsistently accepts them abroad.

>It is a diplomatic minefield that Canberra traversed when
>Vietnamese-born Melburnian Van Tuong Nguyen was hanged in Singapore in
>December for taking heroin through Changi airport, despite Australian
>appeals for clemency.

>It is also a minefield that the nation will confront time and again:
>despite repeated warnings and the appalling reality of executions,
>there will always be people foolish enough to strap drugs to their
>bodies or conceal it in their luggage.

>Almost all will pass through Southeast Asia, the source of most of
>Australia's heroin (the Bali Nine consignment originated in Thailand)
>and where every country but Cambodia compulsorily hangs, shoots or
>lethally injects traffickers.

>Mike Phelan, the head of international operations for the Australian
>Federal Police and the man responsible for giving Indonesia the
>information it needed to arrest the Bali Nine, sees no end to the queue
>of couriers the trade calls "mules".

>"It continues to astound me that people attempt importations and move
>drugs through transit countries knowing that the death penalty exists,"
>he told ABC's Australian Story. "Many young lives get thrown away for
>the law of quick dollars."

>The AFP's role in the arrest of the Bali Nine is among the most
>sensitive of the issues facing Prime Minister John Howard, who has
>already weathered a barrage of criticism that has extended even into
>his own party room.

>The AFP caught the first whispers of a major heroin importing run in
>February last year and, in April, asked the Indonesian police to help
>uncover the members of the syndicate and the source of their supplies.

>Between them, the two forces discovered most of the names and built a
>remarkably accurate picture of their operation, including details of a
>previous successful run and another aborted attempt.

>This co-operation has become increasingly commonplace, spurred by the
>determination of all countries in the region to attack drug trafficking
>and terrorism. Intelligence swapping is required under a number of
>treaties.

>"We make no secret of the fact that the AFP has a policy of forward
>engagement where we want to stop the crimes at the source and (prevent
>them) from reaching Australian shores," Phelan said. "That's a practice
>we will continue to operate within."

>What worries many Australians is the fact that the AFP in effect turned
>over a group of young Australians to a country it knew was likely to
>execute them, rather than arresting them when they arrived home.

>The most emotional response centred on Scott Rush, 20, a drug mule who
>was jailed for life. His family, through lawyer Bob Myers, vainly asked
>the AFP to warn Rush of their interest before he left Australia.

>"No Australian public servant has the right to expose any Australian
>citizen to the death penalty," Myers told Australian Story.

>Rush and fellow mules Renae Lawrence, Martin Stephens and Michael
>Czugaj took the AFP to the Federal Court, claiming it had acted
>illegally by exposing them to the death penalty.

>While a large part of public opinion agreed, the court dismissed the
>action.

>The Government has also sidestepped criticism, pointing out that while
>the relevant treaty with Indonesia contains a clause allowing the
>Attorney-General to refuse to provide evidence if an Australian was
>charged with an offence carrying the death penalty, the AFP was free to
>do as it thought best until charges were laid.

>By the time the Bali Nine were formally charged, all the damaging
>evidence had been gathered.

>Phelan is unrepentant: "Basically all transit countries through which
>drugs come to Australia have the death penalty. The AFP cannot pick and
>choose who it chooses to cooperate with."

>International teamwork in the past few years has significantly reduced
>the flow of drugs into Australia. The most recent Australian Crime
>Commission figures, for 2003-04, show the lowest seizures of heroin for
>a decade.

>Refusal to co-operate abroad would outrage regional governments and
>threaten mutual action against other drug syndicates and terrorism.

>Public opinion in Southeast Asia also strongly favours the death
>penalty for traffickers, with polls in Singapore and Thailand showing
>support of up to 80 per cent.

>In Australia, opinion is more confused. A Morgan poll in November found
>that while only 27 per cent of Australians favoured the death penalty
>for murder, 57 per cent believed drug traffickers caught in Asia should
>die.

>Yet in the specific case of Van Nguyen, opinion was evenly divided.

>In The Australian, a newspoll found that more than 50 per cent of
>Australians favoured the death sentence for people convicted of major
>acts of terrorism.

>Howard now has to weigh all these conflicting factors in framing
>Canberra's approach to the executions of Chan and Sukumaran. He has
>said publicly he has no sympathy for the two men but will vigorously
>pursue Australia's long-standing opposition to the death penalty.

>How that is carried out will test Australian diplomacy.

>Apart from the risks to a fragile relationship, observers have pointed
>out that any blunt approach will almost certainly stiffen backs in
>Jakarta and end any chance of clemency.

>Hopes of saving Chan and Sukumaran now rest with Indonesia's
>inconsistent record in carrying out executions, the fact that in recent
>times only three of the more than 85 prisoners on death row have been
>shot, and the lengthy legal road still to be travelled.

>It may be years before their case moves through the Denpasar provincial
>High Court and the two reviews possible through the Supreme Court in
>Jakarta.

>And though President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono has said he will never
>grant clemency to drug traffickers, time and quiet diplomacy may change
>his mind.

>Death penalty Australia's double dilemma 
>
>18.02.06
>By Greg Ansley



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On Sun, 20 August 2006  08:54:37 -0700, Ken McVaySOBC
wrote:

This is more than true, if you read the book "OTHER LOSSES" by
Bacque!

It seems that those who were involved in this gencoide after the war,
tried hard to suppress news about their crimes, and many of the
victims died, fearing harm to their families if they told the truth.

Now, with more and more survivors willing to testify, including some
of the US military involved, the truth is being substantiated!


>>>On 13 Dec 2004 01:34:52 -0800, "Schorsch"  wrote:
>>>Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:
>>> In article <1102789129.632939.294380@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
>>> Schorsch  wrote:
>> >Allied Plans for the Annihilation of the German People
>> >Measures for the Devastation of the Heart of Europe

>>> Was there some point you wished to make?

>>>Perhaps the Scheissedreck Shabbasgoy McVay wanted to further repost
>>>the following article...

>>>Subject: Es Stimmt-Ike's Death Camps for Germans!!

>>>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag and mamser in Canada,
>>>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting 
>>>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still 
>>>unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of the 
>>>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, and now finally dying as a
>>>diseased AIDS-spreader,wants all to know about all 
>>>his fellow ZHID criminals and perverts.
>>>Here is the latest.......

>>>From: cmsahe@excite.com (Carlos cmsahe)
>>>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.palestine,soc.culture.europe
>>>Subject: "Ike"'s Death camps
>>>Date: 18 Feb 2002 07:43:47 -0800

>>>A U.S. PRISON GUARD AT ONE OF "IKE'S DEATH CAMPS"

>>>By Martin Brech

>>>FORTY-FIVE years ago, I witnessed an atrocity: the deliberate
>>>starvation of German POWs by our own army. History, written by the
>>>victors, suppressed all news of this atrocity until James Bacque, a
>>>Canadian author, published his brilliant expose, OTHER LOSSES. This
>>>book is a best seller in Canada, a sensation in Europe, yet is
>>>virtually unavailable (censored?) in the U.S. Our major booksellers
>>>told me their distributors are not handling it. When I prevailed upon
>>>a small, independent bookstore to order direct from Canada, the
>>>publisher told them they would be the only store in New York State to
>>>carry the book. This in 'the land of the free'?"

>>>Fortunately, Pat Buchanan called attention to OTHER LOSSES in his
>>>January 10, 1990 column. He wrote:

>>>"Conclusion: the U.S. Army killed ten times as many Germans in POW
>>>camps as we did on battlefields from Normandy to V.E. day. (German
>>>POWs) had their rations cut below survival level until they were dying
>>>at rates up to 30% of exposure, starvation and neglect... Red Cross
>>>food trains were turned back and U.S. food shipments sat on the
>>>docks...One French officer said the U.S. camps reminded him of Dachau
>>>and Buchenwald...The book blames Eisenhower. 'The German is a beast,'
>>>Ike had written...But that was not how the Canadians and British felt,
>>>who treated their prisoners justly...It was not the view of General
>>>Mark Clark, nor of Patton...Ignoring the book is not enough."
>>>Pat Buchanan's courageous column inspired me to help end the cover-up
>>>of the atrocity I had witnessed. I wrote letters to several newspapers
>>>which were, of necessity, short and incomplete. Now I would like to
>>>finally free more of my painful memories, hoping to be heard, so that
>>>this will help us to acknowledge our share in the "banality of evil",
>>>cleansing ourselves with the truth. Perhaps we as a nation may then
>>>put this behind us with some integrity and with some hope for
>>>redemption.

>>>In October 1944, at age eighteen, I was drafted into the army while a
>>>student at the NYS College of Forestry. Largely due to the "Battle of
>>>the Bulge", my training was cut short, my furlough cut in half, and I
>>>was then immediately sent overseas. Upon arrival in Le Havre, France,
>>>we were quickly loaded into boxcars and shipped to the front. By the
>>>time we reached it, I had developed mononucleosis severely enough to
>>>be sent to a hospital in Belgium.

>>>By the time I left the hospital, the unit I had trained with in
>>>Spartenburg, South Carolina was so deeply into Germany that I warn
>>>placed in a "repo depo" (a replacement depot) despite my protests. I
>>>then lost interest in which units I was assigned to because non-combat
>>>units were generally not respected. My separation qualification record
>>>states that I served mostly with the 14th Infantry Regiment, during
>>>which time I guarded prisoners of war and served as an interpreter.
>>>During my seventeen month stay in Germany, I was transferred to other
>>>outfits also.

>>>In late March or early April 1945, I was assigned to help guard a POW
>>>camp near Andernach along the Rhine. I had four years of high school
>>>German, so I was able to talk to the prisoners, although this was
>>>forbidden.

>>>Gradually, however, I was used as an interpreter and asked to ferret
>>>out the S.S. (I found none.)

>>>In Andernach, between 50,000 and 65,000 prisoners, ranging in age from
>>>very young teens to very old men, were crowded together in an open
>>>field surrounded by barbed wire. The women were kept in a separate
>>>enclosure which I did not see until later. The men I guarded had no
>>>tents or other shelter, no blankets and many had no coats. Inadequate
>>>numbers of slit trenches were provided for excrement, and so the men
>>>lived and slept in the mud and increasing filth during a cold, wet
>>>spring. Their misery from exposure alone was evident.

>>>It was even more shocking to see them eating grass, sometimes throwing
>>>it into a tin can containing a thin soup. They told me they did this
>>>hoping to ease their hunger pains. Soon their emaciation was evident.
>>>Dysentery raged and, too weak and crowded to reach the slit trenches,
>>>they were increasingly sleeping in excrement. I saw no sign of
>>>provision for water, so the thin soup was their food and water for the
>>>day. Some days there was bread, less than a slice each. Other days
>>>there was nothing.

>>>The sight of so many men desperate for food and water, sickening and
>>>dying before our eyes, is indescribable. Even now, I can only think of
>>>it momentarily.

>>>We had ample food and supplies that could have been shared more
>>>humanely, and we could have offered some medical assistance, but did
>>>nothing. Only the dead were quickly and efficiently taken care of:
>>>hauled away to mass graves.

>>>My outrage reached the point that I protested to my officers, but I
>>>was met with hostility or bland indifference. When pressed, they
>>>explained they were under strict orders from "higher up". No officer
>>>would dare to systematically do this to over 50,000 prisoners if he
>>>felt he was violating general policy and subject to court martial. The
>>>term "war criminal" was just beginning to come into fashion.

>>>Realizing my protests were useless, I asked a friend working in the
>>>kitchen if he could slip me some extra food for the prisoners. He too
>>>repeated that they were under strict orders to severely ration the
>>>prisoners' food, and that these orders came from "higher up". But he
>>>said they had more food than they knew what to do with and would sneak
>>>me some.

>>>When I threw this food over the barbed wires to the prisoners I was
>>>caught and threatened with imprisonment. I repeated the "offense", and
>>>one officer threatened to shoot me. I naturally assumed this was a
>>>bluff, but I began to have some doubts after I encountered a captain
>>>on a hill above the Rhine shooting down at a group of German civilian
>>>women with his .45 caliber pistol. When I asked, "Why?" he mumbled,
>>>"Target practice," and fired until his pistol was empty. I saw the
>>>women running for cover, but, at that distance, couldn't tell if any
>>>had been hit.

>>>This is when I more fully realized I was dealing with some
>>>cold-blooded killers filled with moralistic hatred. They considered
>>>the Germans sub-human and worthy of extermination; another expression
>>>of the downward spiral of racism. Articles in the G.I. newspaper,
>>>Stars & Stripes, played up the Nazi concentration camps, complete with
>>>photographs of emaciated bodies; this amplified our self-righteous
>>>cruelty and made it easier to imitate behavior we were supposed to
>>>oppose. Also, I think, soldiers not exposed to combat were trying to
>>>prove how tough they were by taking it out on the prisoners and
>>>civilians. At least, many combat soldiers told me later they would not
>>>have tolerated this, for they combined hatred with respect for a
>>>courageous enemy.

>>>The prisoners I spoke to were mostly simple farmers and workingmen, as
>>>ignorant, albeit nationalistic, as many of our own troops. I heard
>>>many versions of "my country, right or wrong, my country," which we
>>>still hear in our own country today.

>>>As time went on, many of them lapsed into a Zombie-like state of
>>>listlessness. Others, maddened by thirst, tried to escape in a
>>>desperate or suicidal fashion, running through open fields in broad
>>>daylight towards the Rhine to quench their thirst. They were mowed
>>>down.

>>>Some prisoners were extremely eager for cigarettes, saying they took
>>>the edge off their hunger. Accordingly, some enterprising G.I. "Yankee
>>>traders" were acquiring hordes of wrist watches and rings in exchange
>>>for handfuls of cigarettes or less. When I began throwing cartons of
>>>cigar-ettes to the prisoners to ruin this trade, I found myself
>>>threatened by rank-and-file G.I.s also. At least this taught me an
>>>indelible lesson: how wrong majorities and authorities can be.

>>>A bright spot in this gloomy picture came, oddly enough, one night
>>>when I was put on the "graveyard shift", from two to four A.M.
>>>Actually, there was a graveyard on the uphill side of this enclosure,
>>>not many yards away. My superiors had forgotten to give me a
>>>flashlight and I hadn't bothered to ask, being disgusted with the
>>>whole situation by that time. It was a fairly bright night and I soon
>>>became aware of a prisoner crawling under the wires to the graveyard.
>>>We were supposed to shoot escapees on sight, so I started to get up to
>>>warn him to get back. Suddenly I noticed another prisoner crawling
>>>from the graveyard back to the enclosure. They were risking their
>>>lives to get to the graveyard for something; I had to investigate.

>>>When I entered the gloom of this shrubby, tree-shaded cemetery, I
>>>never felt more vulnerable, but somehow curiosity kept me going.
>>>Despite my caution, I tripped over the legs of someone in a prone
>>>position. Whipping my rifle around while stumbling and trying to
>>>regain composure of mind and body, I soon was relieved I hadn't
>>>reflexively fired. The figure sat up, moving erratically. Gradually I
>>>could see the beautiful but terror-stricken face of a woman with a
>>>picnic basket nearby. German civilians were not allowed to feed, nor
>>>even come near, the prisoners, so I quickly assured her I approved of
>>>what she was doing, not to be afraid, and that I would leave the
>>>graveyard to get out of the way, telling no one.

>>>I left the graveyard as quickly as possible and sat down, leaning
>>>against a tree at the edge CF the cemetary to be inconspicuous and not
>>>frighten the prisoners. I imagined then, and often since, what it
>>>would be like to be a prisoner under those conditions and meet a
>>>beautiful woman with a picnic basket. I never saw her again, but I
>>>have never forgotten her face.

>>>While I watched, more prisoners crawled to and from the enclosure. I
>>>saw they were dragging food back to their comrades and could only
>>>admire their courage and devotion. As I walked back to my quarters at
>>>the end of my shift, a nightingale and I were singing -- both felt a
>>>touch of spring.

>>>(I originally did not intend to reveal the following incident, for it
>>>moves into a realm termed "mystical". However, for me, it was an
>>>extremely significant experience, changing my life, providing a light
>>>no darkness can extinguish. It must be told, hoping it will foster
>>>understanding.)

>>>On May 8, V.E. day, I decided to celebrate with some prisoners I was
>>>guarding who were baking bread, meager amounts of which the other
>>>prisoners occasionally received. This group had all the bread they
>>>could eat, and shared the jovial mood generated by the end of the war.
>>>We all thought we would be going home soon, a pathetic hope on their
>>>part. We were in what was to become the French zone, and I later
>>>witnessed the brutality of the French soldiers when we transferred our
>>>prisoners to them for their slave labor camps (see below).

>>>However, on this day we were happy.

>>>After chatting with them about the potentials of peace for the rest of
>>>our lives, I decided to risk a gesture of trust that objectively would
>>>seem foolish. I emptied my rifle and stood it in the corner. They
>>>tested me further by asking to play with it, and I agreed. Intuitively
>>>I felt I could rely on their sense of honor not to attack me, for they
>>>knew they too were being tested. This thoroughly 'broke the ice', and
>>>soon we were singing songs we taught each other or I had learned in
>>>high school German ("Du, du, liegst mir im Herzen"). Out of gratitude,
>>>they secretly baked a small sweet bread and insisted I take it,
>>>explaining it was the only possible gift they had left to offer.
>>>Expressing my gratitude with a lump in my throat, I put it in my tight
>>>"Eisenhower jacket" so I could sneak it back to my barracks. I later
>>>found an opportunity to eat it outside.

>>>Never had bread tasted more delicious, nor conveyed to me a deeper
>>>sense of communion while eating it. A wonderful feeling pervaded me,
>>>gently opening me to an intimation of the Oneness of all Being.
>>>Through those prisoners I sensed the ~cosmic presence of what has been
>>>called the Christ, Buddha-nature, or, perhaps most aptly, the
>>>Ineffable: cosmically present, but hidden and apparently separate,
>>>until revealed in the wholeness of the giving of the self. Even within
>>>the horror humans had created, I was taught a path to redemption may
>>>open by taking a first, tentative step in the direction of love,
>>>understanding and forgiveness. This above all the prisoners taught me:
>>>not only are we all potentially humane humans, there is divinity
>>>within us waiting for us to dissolve the defensive shield of ego. I
>>>was pleased to discover later the words of Matthew 25:34-46,
>>>expressing the potential within prisoners and all who are at our
>>>mercy.

>>>Shortly after this experience I was plunged into even greater horror.
>>>Some of our weak and sickly prisoners were being marched off by French
>>>soldiers to their camp. The truck we were on first passed another
>>>truck picking up bodies along the side of the road, and then came up
>>>behind a slowly moving column of men. Temporarily we slowed down and
>>>remained behind, perhaps because the driver was as shocked as I was.
>>>The French soldiers were apparently incensed at the poor condition of
>>>our prisoners, not only for labor but for marching to another camp.
>>>Whenever a prisoner staggered or dropped back, the French clubbed him
>>>to death and then dragged him to the side of the road. For many, this
>>>quick death might have been preferable to their prolonged suffering.
>>>Even gas would have been more merciful than our murder by neglect in
>>>our slow 'killing fields'.

>>>When I saw the German women held in a separate enclosure, I asked why
>>>we were keeping them. I was told they were "camp followers", selected
>>>as breeding stock for the S.S. to create a super-race. We provided
>>>them with tents but they were extremely hungry. I spoke to some and
>>>must say they were still spirited and attractive. However, I believe I
>>>was objective enough when I told all concerned that I didn't think
>>>they deserved our treatment.

>>>As an interpreter, I was able to prevent some particularly unfortunate
>>>arrests. One somewhat amusing incident occurred during a pre-dawn raid
>>>we conducted on a town to discover Nazis or arms. An old farmer was
>>>being dragged away by some soldiers. I was told he had a "fancy Nazi
>>>medal", which they showed to me. Fortunately, I had a chart
>>>identifying such medals. He had been awarded it for having five or
>>>more children! Perhaps his wife was somewhat relieved to get him "off
>>>her back", but I didn't think one of our 'death camps' was a fair
>>>punishment for his contribution to Germany. The soldiers agreed and
>>>released him to continue his "dirty work".

>>>Famine was spreading amongst German civilians also. It was a common
>>>sight to see German women up to their elbows in our garbage cans
>>>looking for something edible -- that is, when they weren't chased
>>>away.

>>>When I interviewed mayors of small towns and villages, I was told
>>>their supply of food had been taken away by "displaced persons"
>>>(foreigners who had worked in Germany), who packed the food on trucks
>>>and drove away. When I reported this, the response was a shrug or an
>>>expression of helplessness.

>>>Although the Red Cross coffee and doughnut stands were available
>>>everywhere for us, I never saw any Red Cross in the prison camps or
>>>helping the civilians. While my girlfriend had all the "contraband"
>>>doughnuts she could eat, most Germans had to share their meager hidden
>>>stores and wait until the next harvest.

>>>This hunger undoubtedly made many German women more "available", but,
>>>despite this, rape was incredibly prevalent and often accompanied by
>>>additional violence. I particularly remember a charming eighteen year
>>>old girl who had several unsuccessful suitors and was "just friends"
>>>with me, who had the side of her face smashed with a rifle butt and
>>>was then raped by two G.I.s. The casual shooting of German civilians
>>>also continued, usually by drunken soldiers who would tell of this as
>>>something amusing. All too many G.I.s gave the impression they were
>>>1ike animals released from cages, free to do what they liked because
>>>they were dealing with yet a lower species of animal, a reverse
>>>racism, inflamed by our propaganda. However, even the French
>>>complained to me that our rape and drunken destructive behavior in
>>>their country was excessive. When we had arrived in Le Havre, we had
>>>been given booklets instructing us that the Germans had maintained a
>>>high standard of behavior with French civilians who were peaceful, and
>>>that we should do the same. In this we failed miserably.

>>>So what? we might still say. The enemies' atrocities were worse than
>>>ours. Certainly my experiences were only of the last phases of the
>>>war, when we were already clearly the victors. The Nazi opportunity
>>>for atrocities had faded and ours was unleashed. But we might have
>>>learned the simple lesson that two wrongs do not make a right. Perhaps
>>>we might even have broken the cycle of vengeful retaliation and
>>>unbridled hatred, fed by racism, that has plagued human history and
>>>blighted human potential all to long. Instead, we committed our own
>>>atrocities and now are clinging to a cover-up. That is why I am
>>>speaking out now, forty-five years after the crime. We can never
>>>prevent individual war crimes, but we can, if enough of us speak out,
>>>influence government policy. We can reject government propaganda that
>>>depicts our enemies as subhuman and encourages the kinds of outrages I
>>>witnessed. We can protest the bombing of civilian targets, which still
>>>goes on today. (I will never forget the sickly sweet smell of rotting
>>>human flesh rising from the shattered remains of the cities and towns
>>>I entered.) And we can refuse ever to condone our government' s murder
>>>of unarmed and defeated prisoners of war.

>>>I realized it's difficult to admit witnessing a crime of this
>>>magnitude, especially if implicated oneself. Even G.I .s sympathetic
>>>to the victims told me they were afraid to oppose so massive a policy
>>>that would surely seek to cover its tracks. I never heard this
>>>directly from an officer, but it was the belief of the rank-and-file
>>>G.I.s I spoke to that we were not to "talk" because, first, no one
>>>would believe us, and second, we would surely get into trouble. They
>>>all insisted it was better not to talk, and slowly I too realized it
>>>would be futile and dangerous. That is, until now, thanks to James
>>>Bacque and Pat Buchanan. This is not to say the danger has passed.
>>>Since I "spoke out" recently, my mailbox has been smashed and I have
>>>received threatening phone calls. But I believe it is worth the risk.
>>>Writing about these atrocities has been a catharsis of feelings
>>>suppressed too long, a liberation, and perhaps will remind other
>>>witnesses and citizens -that "the truth shall make us free, have no
>>>fear." And, in any case, "the truth shall out".

>>>We may even learn a supreme lesson from all this: Hate is
>>>self-destructive; only love can conquer and evolve all as One.

>>>Martin Brech
>>>(Adjunct Professor,
>>>Philosophy & Religion,
>>>Mercy College;
>>>Ex-G.I., Finally Free)
>>>Martin Brech, 187 Archer Road, Mahopac, NY 10541, Tel.: 914-628-6301

>>>James Bacque: Did the Allies starve millions of Germans?


>>>Perhaps the Scheissedreck Shabbasgoy McVay wanted to further repost
>>>the following article...


Ken McVay from Nizkor seems to actually deny that something like death
camps for Germans even existed or that Germans were deliberately
starved to death (Rheinwiesenlager).
http://www.rheinwiesenlager.de/

He himself is some kind of "Holocaust Denier", when it comes to German
suffering.
Note that Nizkor virtually doesn't mention any German suffering:
http://www.nizkor.org/other-sites/genocides.html
No mentioning of Germans at all. But after all, why bother about those
subhumans that according to Nizkor and related sources "gassed millions of
Jews"?!


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just  to
justify his existence to his ZYD masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
work:(780)492-0473

Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZYD COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZYDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZYDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
for many years around the world.



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The zionazi ZYDS do not like to be reminded of this!

Evean fat Hermann Goering used jews in his home and in the Luftwaffe.

On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 03:15:15 GMT, "amigo  cabal" 
wrote:

>Germans of Jewish Descent Who Served Hitler

>Possibly one of the most damning indictments of the allegations surrounding 
>the Holocaust and Nazi racial policy, come in an analysis of Germans of part 
>Jewish descent who were not only ardent Nazis but who faithfully served the 
>Nazi state at all levels in its military structure. For if the Nazi state 
>had, as is so often claimed, been hell bent on killing all traces of Jews, 
>it would never have allowed these individuals into positions which they did 
>hold - including army and air force generals.

>As discussed earlier, the Nazi racial laws made specific allowances for such 
>exceptions, and in fact actively sought to assimilate partial Jews into 
>German society, rather than have them re-congregate and form pure Jewish 
>gene pools once again. From the Nazi side, there was therefore no 
>contradiction between the assimilation of part Jews into German society, 
>although this policy is subject to considerable misunderstanding from 
>outside observers.

>As discussed in the book by American Military University professor Bryan 
>Mark Rigg in his book "Hitler's Jewish Soldiers, The Untold Story of Nazi 
>Racial Laws and Men of Jewish Descent in the German Military" (University 
>Press of Kansas, Modern War Studies, May 2002) as many as 150,000 men of 
>part Jewish descent, including decorated veterans and high-ranking officers, 
>even generals and admirals, fought for Nazi Germany right to the bitter end.

>Almost all of these 150,000 men received special exemptions and declarations 
>of being "true Germans", many of these orders being signed by Adolf Hitler 
>himself, in a legal provision known as the Deutschblütigkeitserklärung (or 
>literally, the Declaration of German Blood).

>Above: photographs of Wehrmacht soldier and half-Jew Anton Mayer, typical of 
>those which accompanied an application for exemption under the Nazis' racial 
>laws.

>Above left: Quarter-Jew Admiral Bernhard Rogge wearing his Knight's Cross 
>(Ritterkreuz) with oak leaves. Above right: Adolf Hitler personally declared 
>Luftwaffe Field Marshall Erhard Milch (standing left) as  an Aryan, even 
>though Milch was half-Jewish. To Milch's right, General Wolfram von 
>Richthofen.

>Above right: Half-Jew Luftwaffe General Helmut Wilberg; above right: The 
>military service book of half-Jew Hermann Aub.

>Above left: World War One veteran and half-Jew, General Johannes Zukertort; 
>and above right: Half-Jew Commander Paul Ascher, Admiral Lütjens's first 
>staff officer on the battleship Bismarck.

>Above left: Half-Jew Colonel Walter H. Hollaender, decorated with the 
>Knight's Cross (Ritterkreuz) and German-Cross in Gold; and above right: 
>Half-Jew Wehrmacht soldier Werner Goldberg.

>"KNOWING THE NAZI STATE FOR WHAT IT WAS"

>The significance of these Germans of Jewish descent serving the Third Reich 
>has not been lost on the academic world: for example, the following quote 
>from historian John Keegan in his review of Bryan Mark Rigg's book:
>
>"The revelation that Germans of Jewish blood, knowing the Nazi regime for 
>what it was, served Hitler as uniformed members of his armed forces must 
>come as a profound shock. It will surprise even professional historians of 
>the Nazi years."  - John Keegan, author of The Face of Battle and The Second 
>World War,  (http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/righit.html)

>Keegan is of course, mistaken in the one sense, in that even a cursory study 
>of Nazi racial laws will have revealed that the Blood Protection Law of 1935 
>make specific allowances for such cases, and only the general hysteria and 
>ignorance of what the Nazis actually said and did has allowed people to be 
>"shocked" by the large number of part Jews serving the Reich.

>The phrase "knowing the Nazi regime for what it was" above by Keegan, is 
>however the real significant part: for indeed, if the Nazis had been mass 
>murdering, gassing and burning millions of Jews, it is extremely unlikely 
>that these 150,000 prominent Germans of part Jewish descent, would have 
>served the Reich at all, never mind having made specific application to be 
>granted full Aryan status - especially given that there were only 
>approximately 600,000 full blooded Jews in Nazi Germany.




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Actually, most people dislike the Christkillers, because they have experienced
at least one incident of being JEWED!!

The incidents of genocide by Israelis, at astronomical cost to US taxpayers,
is one example of Americans getting JEWED!


On 24 Sep 2006 07:44:16 -0700, "Confetti"  wrote:

>You have no power, no influence, no respect.

>You are virtual FAILURES or you wouldn't be here.

>Not one of you lead a "normal" life.

>Not one of you can conduct your hateful newsgroup antisemitic drivel in
>the light of day. What are you going to do, write letters to the editor
>and tell the friends you don't have that you spend your time writing
>antisemitic bile and punctuate it with a sophomoric "lol" like the
>asshole who calls himself Rear'end does!  And this hateful clown
>because he doesn't work wants you to believe he's a member of the idle
>rich too ... Pull-leaze!

>Newsgroups like these were invented for losers like you.

>Some of you can still recover the dignity in your lives if you leave
>now, the rest of you I'm afraid are doomed.



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The zionazi ZYDS do not like to be reminded of this!
The ZYDS even use their shabbas-goy McVay, to try and deflect
this TRUE information.

The Christkillers dislike being reminded about the ZYD COLLABORATEURS - such
as KASTNER, RUMKOWSKI AND WIESENTHAL!!

Evean fat Hermann Goering used jews in his home and in the Luftwaffe.

On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 03:15:15 GMT, "amigo  cabal" 
wrote:

>Germans of Jewish Descent Who Served Hitler

>Possibly one of the most damning indictments of the allegations surrounding 
>the Holocaust and Nazi racial policy, come in an analysis of Germans of part 
>Jewish descent who were not only ardent Nazis but who faithfully served the 
>Nazi state at all levels in its military structure. For if the Nazi state 
>had, as is so often claimed, been hell bent on killing all traces of Jews, 
>it would never have allowed these individuals into positions which they did 
>hold - including army and air force generals.

>As discussed earlier, the Nazi racial laws made specific allowances for such 
>exceptions, and in fact actively sought to assimilate partial Jews into 
>German society, rather than have them re-congregate and form pure Jewish 
>gene pools once again. From the Nazi side, there was therefore no 
>contradiction between the assimilation of part Jews into German society, 
>although this policy is subject to considerable misunderstanding from 
>outside observers.

>As discussed in the book by American Military University professor Bryan 
>Mark Rigg in his book "Hitler's Jewish Soldiers, The Untold Story of Nazi 
>Racial Laws and Men of Jewish Descent in the German Military" (University 
>Press of Kansas, Modern War Studies, May 2002) as many as 150,000 men of 
>part Jewish descent, including decorated veterans and high-ranking officers, 
>even generals and admirals, fought for Nazi Germany right to the bitter end.

>Almost all of these 150,000 men received special exemptions and declarations 
>of being "true Germans", many of these orders being signed by Adolf Hitler 
>himself, in a legal provision known as the Deutschblütigkeitserklärung (or 
>literally, the Declaration of German Blood).

>Above: photographs of Wehrmacht soldier and half-Jew Anton Mayer, typical of 
>those which accompanied an application for exemption under the Nazis' racial 
>laws.

>Above left: Quarter-Jew Admiral Bernhard Rogge wearing his Knight's Cross 
>(Ritterkreuz) with oak leaves. Above right: Adolf Hitler personally declared 
>Luftwaffe Field Marshall Erhard Milch (standing left) as  an Aryan, even 
>though Milch was half-Jewish. To Milch's right, General Wolfram von 
>Richthofen.

>Above right: Half-Jew Luftwaffe General Helmut Wilberg; above right: The 
>military service book of half-Jew Hermann Aub.

>Above left: World War One veteran and half-Jew, General Johannes Zukertort; 
>and above right: Half-Jew Commander Paul Ascher, Admiral Lütjens's first 
>staff officer on the battleship Bismarck.

>Above left: Half-Jew Colonel Walter H. Hollaender, decorated with the 
>Knight's Cross (Ritterkreuz) and German-Cross in Gold; and above right: 
>Half-Jew Wehrmacht soldier Werner Goldberg.

>"KNOWING THE NAZI STATE FOR WHAT IT WAS"

>The significance of these Germans of Jewish descent serving the Third Reich 
>has not been lost on the academic world: for example, the following quote 
>from historian John Keegan in his review of Bryan Mark Rigg's book:
>
>"The revelation that Germans of Jewish blood, knowing the Nazi regime for 
>what it was, served Hitler as uniformed members of his armed forces must 
>come as a profound shock. It will surprise even professional historians of 
>the Nazi years."  - John Keegan, author of The Face of Battle and The Second 
>World War,  (http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/righit.html)

>Keegan is of course, mistaken in the one sense, in that even a cursory study 
>of Nazi racial laws will have revealed that the Blood Protection Law of 1935 
>make specific allowances for such cases, and only the general hysteria and 
>ignorance of what the Nazis actually said and did has allowed people to be 
>"shocked" by the large number of part Jews serving the Reich.

>The phrase "knowing the Nazi regime for what it was" above by Keegan, is 
>however the real significant part: for indeed, if the Nazis had been mass 
>murdering, gassing and burning millions of Jews, it is extremely unlikely 
>that these 150,000 prominent Germans of part Jewish descent, would have 
>served the Reich at all, never mind having made specific application to be 
>granted full Aryan status - especially given that there were only 
>approximately 600,000 full blooded Jews in Nazi Germany.




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Actually, most people dislike the Christkillers, because they have experienced
at least one incident of being JEWED!!

The incidents of genocide by Israelis, at astronomical cost to US taxpayers,
is one example of Americans getting JEWED!


On 24 Sep 2006 07:44:16 -0700, "Confetti"  wrote:

>You have no power, no influence, no respect.

>You are virtual FAILURES or you wouldn't be here.

>Not one of you lead a "normal" life.

>Not one of you can conduct your hateful newsgroup antisemitic drivel in
>the light of day. What are you going to do, write letters to the editor
>and tell the friends you don't have that you spend your time writing
>antisemitic bile and punctuate it with a sophomoric "lol" like the
>asshole who calls himself Rear'end does!  And this hateful clown
>because he doesn't work wants you to believe he's a member of the idle
>rich too ... Pull-leaze!

>Newsgroups like these were invented for losers like you.

>Some of you can still recover the dignity in your lives if you leave
>now, the rest of you I'm afraid are doomed.



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In other words, AVIS are a bunch of crooks, if one can believe all the
documented complaints, both in Europe, and North America!!

On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 22:24:33 -0700, Dan Epstein
 wrote:

>I had an identical experience with Avis about 4 years ago.  They finally
>removed the charge after finding that they had already charge a previous
>customer for the same dent!  Resolution involved multiple calls and
>emails to their headquarters at the time--in Hamburg.  Very unpleasant.
>I also threatened to dispute the charge with my credit card company, and
>so they had to at least address my complaints.  There were multiple
>problems such as charging me for a full tank when I returned the car
>full (I had the credit card receipt from a local station with the
>time/date stamp).
>
>Dan
>
>
>On 25 Sep 2006 18:38:58 -0700, "James Hong Kong"
> wrote:
>
>>Dear David,
>>
>>Thx for the advise. Too late to stop the credit payment. Too bad for my
>>issurance is not covered.
>>
>>However I am concerned about the customer service attitude of Germany
>>Avis that I wrote several letters and E mails, including their Avis
>>President, Mr Robert Salerno at New Jersey of USA Office. All mails
>>were ignored.
>>
>>I can't understand how they handle the customer service. No matter the
>>result or Nationality, Avis should reply their customer complaint or
>>inquiry.
>>
>>Do you know any better method to channel my discontent to them and
>>alert the public about this event ? Any press media ?
>>
>>James
>>Hong Kong.
>>David Bennetts wrote:
>>> "James Hong Kong"  wrote in message
>>> news:1159223207.797658.110460@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>>> > All,
>>> >
>>> > My family went to Germany by self drive by Avis car rental. However
>>> > Avis found a 1 mm x 1mm tiny spot at the car body when I returned the
>>> > car. They charged me over 250 Euro.
>>> >
>>> > I wrote appeal letter for the unfair charge because:
>>> >
>>> > 1. It is very difficult to check the mark prior of car rental.
>>> > 2. Even the spot was my mistake, I believe it could clear by waxing the
>>> > surface.
>>> > 3. The charge is exceptable high for the small mark.
>>> >
>>> > However the Avis Germany never reply my appeal letter since August. Can
>>> > you suggest any method to appeal or any help to retreive the penalty.
>>> > This company use silent policy to response customer complaint. A diry
>>> > management team. They tried harder to dig more small spot to earn
>>> > money.
>>> >
>>> > James
>>> > Hong Kong
>>>
>>> I'd immediately take up the issue with your credit card company - dispute
>>> the charge by Avis, saying you've tried to appeal the dispute with the
>>> merchant but no response has been forthcoming.
>>>
>>> Also have you checked your travel insurance policy to see whether you have
>>> any coverage for this sort of damage? Presuming you were insured of course.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> David Bennetts
>>> Australia



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Did he originate the true saying, that faggots are good only for incineration?


On 29 Sep 2006 18:39:34 GMT, NY.Transfer.News@blythe.org wrote:

>Brit anti-Gay Bigot Escapes Prosecution for Hate Literature
>
>Via NY Transfer News Collective  *  All the News that Doesn't Fit
> 
>The Independent - Sep 29, 2006
>http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/legal/article1771850.ece
>
>Christian Voice director escapes prosecution over anti-gay literature
>
>By Terry Kirby, Chief Reporter
>
>For some, he is a much-needed voice against an increasingly Godless
>society, representing the views of a significant but largely silent
>section of the population.
>
>But for a great many others, Stephen Green, the director of Christian
>Voice, is a solitary individual, unrepresentative of wider opinion and
>only given prominence by the willingness of the media to offer him a
>platform.
>
>Yesterday, Mr Green was in the public eye once again, after the Crown
>Prosecution Service decided not to prosecute him for breaching public
>order at a gay festival in Cardiff this month, when he handed out
>leaflets quoting the Bible as saying same-sex sex was a sin.
>
>Charges against Mr Green, 54, who lives in Carmarthenshire, of using
>threatening behaviour or insulting words, or behaviour likely to cause
>harassment, alarm or distress, were dropped at a pre-trial hearing in
>Cardiff because of insufficient evidence.
>
>Mr Green responded by calling the Minorities Support Unit officer who
>arrested him a "pompous ass" from a "politically correct" unit and
>threatening to sue the police.
>
>It is such battles that Mr Green relishes - they give him the opportunity
>to expound his uncompromising views, which include opposition to
>abortion, which he likens to the Holocaust, and homosexuality, the
>subject of his lengthy book, The Sexual Dead End.
>
>"We live in Godless society, in which secular humanism has won over
>residual Christianity," he said.
>
>After many years as a fringe figure - most notably with the Conservative
>Family Campaign - Mr Green, a builder by trade, became full-time chairman
>of Christian Voice three years ago. Born in south London and raised as an
>Anglican, he says he is no longer a Conservative or an Anglican and now
>lives in west Wales, where he is a member of the local Pentecostal
>church.
>
>He came to prominence early last year when he campaigned against the
>BBC's decision to broadcast the multi-award winning "Jerry Springer - The
>Opera".
>
>Although his group is believed to have only a few hundred members - he
>will not say how many - they bombarded the BBC with letters and e-mails
>and placed the home addresses of senior executives on their website,
>causing a number to receive death threats.
>
>Subsequent campaigns and protests restricted a provincial tour of the
>show. He also persuaded Maggie's Centres for cancer sufferers to turn
>down a #10,000 donation from the show after threatening to picket the
>charity. The BBC was later criticised for inviting Mr Green to appear on
>Question Time and revised its policy on his group.
>
>He has also campaigned, without success, against the Gay Police
>Association, particularly the participation of officers in gay pride
>marches, which led to his arrest in Cardiff. He wrote to all the
>country's chief constables about the issue. All rejected his complaint
>and one, Terence Grange, the Chief Constable of Dyfed-Powys Police, wrote
>back: "As a lifelong practicing Catholic... I must advise you that I find
>your views morally offensive and totally reprehensible and I would be
>grateful if you would cease further communication."
>
>Mr Green also protested against Wayne Rooney's Nike adverts - condemned
>for "tasteless" use of Christian symbolism, a television documentary
>featuring anatomist Gunther von Hagens demonstrating the effects of a
>crucifixion, and the marriage of the Prince of Wales and Camilla Parker
>Bowles - on the basis that the latter was still married in the eyes of
>God.
>
>When Hurricane Katrina devastated New Orleans, Mr Green declared it was
>"God's wrath" and had brought "purity" to the city.
>
>While he has enjoyed some support from right-wing Christian groups and
>bodies such as Media-watchUK, the successor to Mary Whitehouse's National
>Viewers and Listeners Association, mainstream churches have distanced
>themselves. A Church of England spokesman said they were "aware" of his
>activities, but would not be drawn further.
>
>Some, however, have been more forthright: the Rev Dr David Peel, the
>Moderator of the General Assembly of the United Reformed Church said
>Christian Voice was "a small, self-selecting group distinguished mainly
>by its absurd claim to represent Christians". Bodies such as the National
>Secular Society and the British Humanist Association have also criticised
>Mr Green for being unrepresentative. "I think the media have given him an
>authority that he doesn't deserve," said Terry Sanderson, of the NSS.
>
>Surprisingly, Mr Green agrees: "There is absolutely no reason why I
>should have any prominence at all," he says, adding: "But things have a
>habit of capturing the public imagination."
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On 27 Nov 2005 16:19:47 -0800, "Ariadne" wrote:
>Jason P wrote:
>> By Paula Amann

>> Washington Jewish Week/Jewsweek - 2001

>> http://www.jewsweek.com/society/059.htm

>> They come to Israel from the Ukraine, Russia, and Moldova looking for
>> freedom. Instead they are sold as sex slaves. And you thought Israel
>> was holy.

>> Jewsweek.com | Their names are Natalya, Oxana or Svetlana. They come to
>> Israel, as immigrants do, for a better life. But their dreams of
>> working as a waitress, nurse, or au pair turn nightmarish upon their
>> arrival.

>> Their fellow countryman who met them at the airport, speaking the
>> language of home, takes them to a locked apartment with barred windows
>> and a phone that only takes incoming calls, where they are forced to
>> provide sexual services to strangers.

>> Those who rebel risk being raped, beaten, or starved. Even those who
>> knew they were going into prostitution are shocked by the stark
>> conditions, the pay of roughly 20 shekalim ($5) a day or less for their
>> labor.

>> This disturbing story unfolds all too often at the hotline for Migrant
>> Workers, a Tel Aviv agency founded in 1998 to protect the human rights
>> of foreign workers, victims of sex trafficking among them. The hotline
>> takes as its motto the familiar line from Exodus 22:20: "You shall not
>> wrong a stranger or oppress him, for you were strangers in the land of
>> Egypt."

>> Agency director and co-founder Sigal Rozen, along with the group's
>> counsel, Nomi Levenkron, were in Washington, D.C., last week to give a
>> lecture at the Johns Hopkins Nitze School of Advanced International
>> Studies, to network and to speak with supporters. Among them are the
>> New Israel Fund, which has given the hotline a total of $19,000 during
>> the past year and a half.

>> In an interview, Rozen called sex trafficking an "unorganized crime,"
>> based largely on personal networks of immigrants from the Ukraine,
>> Russia, and Moldova.

>> "... "It's easier being a trafficker than being a plumber ..."   --Nomi
>> Levenkron

>> Those three countries alone accounted for 91 percent of the 474 women
>> arrested in brothels and deported from Israel in 2000, according to
>> figures compiled by hotline volunteers during visits to the Neveh
>> Tirzah women's prison.

>> These statistics represent only a fraction of the problem. Police
>> spokespersons have set the number of women brought into the country to
>> work in the sex industry at 2,000-3,000 annually, the number of
>> brothels at 250, Rozen said.

>> "It's Misha that knows Sasha that knows Vladimir," added Levenkron,
>> noting the economic incentive to be a pimp or work with one. "It's
>> easier being a trafficker than being a plumber."

>> One day she got a phone call from a rape crisis center where a woman
>> pleaded to be arrested and deported.

>> This young Moldovian had twice tried to escape her pimp and at 18, was
>> burned out on prostitution and just wanted to go home.

>> "She's so young and sweet," reflected Levenkron. "She came to Israel to
>> be a waitress."

>> A year ago this month, Israel passed the Law Against Trafficking Women.
>> Before that time, other laws existed against soliciting, pimping, and
>> running brothels.

>> Yet hotline staff point out that few pimps involved in trafficking ever
>> face a judge, with the majority of prostitutes deported without ever
>> facing a trial that might involve their testimony against their pimps.
>> Out of 459 women deported in 1998, only 35 cases went to trial; out of
>> 253 in 1999, a scant five ended up in the courtroom.

>> Judicial indifference is compounded by police complicity, Levenkron
>> argued.

>> The 18-year-old Moldovian, it turned out, had at one point in her
>> misadventures, found herself in a Tel Aviv police station where some of
>> the officers, who were her clients, recognized her and moved to call
>> her pimp.

>> Overhearing their plans, the woman fled and moved in with a
>> client-turned-boyfriend.

>> But somehow the pimp found her again, threatened the boyfriend. The
>> young woman, with no place to go, went back to the brothel. Now the
>> case hangs in the courts, where Levenkron has faint hopes for a
>> positive outcome.

>> The police role in such trafficking ranges from casual to highly
>> serious, she alleged.

>> "There are police who just come as clients, those who get special
>> discounts because of their good relationships with the owner of the
>> place and those that inform the owner about police operations,"
>> explained Levenkron.

>> One young Beersheva prostitute told the attorney she was forced to work
>> seven days a week unless a police raid was expected.

>> Widespread fear of violence from pimps has muted the public outcry, say
>> hotline staff. When Levenkron filed a suit on behalf of a
>> Beersheva-based woman, a 20-year-old Moldovian who had survived six
>> pimps and multiple rapes, several of the lawyer's friends came to her
>> home to bid her a final farewell, in anticipation of her imminent
>> death, she said.

>> INTERNATIONAL PROBLEM

>> Worldwide, trafficking in persons for domestic service, forced labor,
>> and prostitution ranks third after drugs and guns among the activities
>> of international crime, according to a congressional service report
>> released May 10, 2000. For comparison, about 50,000 people are brought
>> to the United States annually, the report stated.

>> The rise in trafficking seen over the 1990s was fueled by feeble
>> economies in source countries, such as the former Soviet Union and
>> Southeast Asia, along with weak penalties for traffickers, said a
>> government official familiar with these issues.

>> Last October, the United States passed its own law addressing this
>> problem, the Victims of Trafficking and Violence Protection Act, which
>> calls on the State Department to report annually on the scope of
>> trafficking in various countries and measures taken to combat it. The
>> report was due for release on June 1, but its publication has been
>> delayed.

>> In Israel today, official policy on trafficking is to arrest and deport
>> foreign sex workers. The women are held for an average of 30 days under
>> crowded and sometimes harsh conditions, longer if they testify in court
>> against their pimps, according to hotline data.

>> Rozen and Levenkron take issue with this approach. "Deporting women
>> doesn't make things better," said Levenkron. "I'm tired of shouting
>> this all over Israel so I've come here [to the United States] to shout
>> about it."

>> Rozen contends that a one-year work permit in specified fields such as
>> home health care or child care, before their return home, would put the
>> former prostitutes in a stronger position to take care of themselves.

>> Gruesome albeit unsubstantiated stories abound, she says, about revenge
>> attacks on returning women and their families by the original
>> trafficker in the home country.

>> A nest egg from a year's legitimate work, Rozen suggests, would allow
>> victims to re-establish themselves in a new community and stay out of
>> the clutches of traffickers in the future.

>> Meanwhile, Levenkron is seeking professional back-up in her job
>> representing the victims of trafficking.

>> "I am the [hotline] legal department," laments Levenkron. "We need
>> lawyers and we need public awareness."



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Does this mean, that in Britain as well as in Canada, the TRUTH is no defence?

What ethnic minority is really controlling what one thinks, and what one can
believe, and what one is taught, and what one may read without fear of
prosecution?

Will Ellis be another vcictim like Irving, Zuendel, Rudolf and similar around
the world?


On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 06:37:52 +0000, Paul Hyett 
wrote:
>In uk.politics.misc on Thu, 23 Mar 2006, Chris X
> wrote :

>>The problem is, as I have previously predicted -
>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/4838498.stm

>>A lecturer who suggested ethnicity could influence average intelligence 
>>levels has been suspended from his job.
>>Dr Frank Ellis was suspended from his post as a lecturer at Leeds University 
>>pending disciplinary procedures.

>>The university emphasised that the suspension was not itself a penalty but 
>>said it had been deemed appropriate given "the seriousness of the issues".

>>>> Let's see how long the University stick to that line, shall we ?

>>Well, well - it didn't take them long to go from saying that he was "free to 
>>hold and express his views despite what the protesters think" to suspending 
>>him - doubtless with a view to sacking him or forcing him to resign - due to 
>>the "seriousness of the issue".

>In other words, pressure from 'various sources'...

>It seems it's OK to point out differences in physical abilities between
>races, but not intellectual ones.



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The ZYD slav posting from Sweden has not a clue about what he writes!!
Why the Swedish government allowed this parasite to reside there is presently
unknown, but if enough complaints are filed with Stockholm, perhaps they will
then deport him back to his clan hovel!!

In WWII, so many prominente ZYDS CVOLLABORATED WITH THE NAZIS - such as
KASTNER, RUMKOWSKI, WIESENTHAL plus at least another 50 senior ZYDS!!


On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 10:57:43 GMT, "captain."  wrote:
>"pan Piotr Glownia"  
>wrote in message news:8vUSg.171$y37.71@nntpserver.swip.net...
>> In article , "captain." 
>>  wrote:
>>>"pan Piotr Glownia" 
>>>wrote in message news:vbDSg.251$nn3.142@nntpserver.swip.net...
>>>> In article , "captain." 
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:

>>>>>"slavland for slavs" sounds like an amusement park.

>>>> For you yes. For us Slavs no.

>>>> We Slavs will show you Aryans how to exit our home quite soon enough.
>>>> And by the way... Slavland is the name of Europe in Slavic. So you 
>>>> better start learning how to swim too.

>>>i don't live in europe. but if i did i don't think i would be very
>>>intimidated by the above statement.
>>>also, i am doubtful that slavland is indeed a slavonic word. i would need
>>>confirmation from someone other than you to accept it.

>> LOL... Sl'owian's'c'yzna is the Slavic word... It means "Slavic fortune".
>> I'm sure they wrote something about it on wikipedia...

>slavic fortune and "slavland" are two different things . you claimed that 
>"slavland" was a slavonic word. isn't it time to admit that you may have 
>made a mistake? :)

>> Why should you feel intimidated? Is Slavic unity and Slavic brotherhood
>> so intimidating for the Aryan race?

>hmmm, that's a good question. maybe you should go to germany (or other 
>suitable "aryan" nation) and ask a few people. i'm sure that they would be 
>more than delighted to discuss it with you.

>We won one war with Aryans... It doesn't
>> mean we will win the next one too. So why intimidating?

>sounds like you're almost ready for some jihad action???




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On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:38:35 -0700, Brian Blankski
 wrote:

>The original article, claiming to be from the anti-zionist William
>Grosvenor, is an obvious FORGERY!!

>It seems that some of the filthy jews just do not like the TRUTH that
>his supporters, and alex/amigocabal, have been posting.

>As they say, if it seems to good to be true, it is.
>Grosvenor would never support the Zionazis
>or diseased AIDS-spreading fags. 
>He believes that faggots are good only for incineration.

>In fact, Grosvenor the human has not been posting now for several
>years, having his thoughts posted worldwide by others around the world
>who are similarly fed up with the problems caused by one group.
>In Poland are now many normal thinking people who agree with the
>former statements and documentation from Grosvenor.

>It seems that a certain diseased ,now dying AIDS-spreader, and some of
>his butt-buddies are behind the flood of forged articles.



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On Sun, 20 August 2006  08:54:37 -0700, Ken McVaySOBC
wrote:

This is more than true, if you read the book "OTHER LOSSES" by
Bacque!

It seems that those who were involved in this gencoide after the war,
tried hard to suppress news about their crimes, and many of the
victims died, fearing harm to their families if they told the truth.

Now, with more and more survivors willing to testify, including some
of the US military involved, the truth is being substantiated!


>>>On 13 Dec 2004 01:34:52 -0800, "Schorsch"  wrote:
>>>Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:
>>> In article <1102789129.632939.294380@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
>>> Schorsch  wrote:
>> >Allied Plans for the Annihilation of the German People
>> >Measures for the Devastation of the Heart of Europe

>>> Was there some point you wished to make?

>>>Perhaps the Scheissedreck Shabbasgoy McVay wanted to further repost
>>>the following article...

>>>Subject: Es Stimmt-Ike's Death Camps for Germans!!

>>>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag and mamser in Canada,
>>>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting 
>>>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still 
>>>unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of the 
>>>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, and now finally dying as a
>>>diseased AIDS-spreader,wants all to know about all 
>>>his fellow ZHID criminals and perverts.
>>>Here is the latest.......

>>>From: cmsahe@excite.com (Carlos cmsahe)
>>>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.palestine,soc.culture.europe
>>>Subject: "Ike"'s Death camps
>>>Date: 18 Feb 2002 07:43:47 -0800

>>>A U.S. PRISON GUARD AT ONE OF "IKE'S DEATH CAMPS"

>>>By Martin Brech

>>>FORTY-FIVE years ago, I witnessed an atrocity: the deliberate
>>>starvation of German POWs by our own army. History, written by the
>>>victors, suppressed all news of this atrocity until James Bacque, a
>>>Canadian author, published his brilliant expose, OTHER LOSSES. This
>>>book is a best seller in Canada, a sensation in Europe, yet is
>>>virtually unavailable (censored?) in the U.S. Our major booksellers
>>>told me their distributors are not handling it. When I prevailed upon
>>>a small, independent bookstore to order direct from Canada, the
>>>publisher told them they would be the only store in New York State to
>>>carry the book. This in 'the land of the free'?"

>>>Fortunately, Pat Buchanan called attention to OTHER LOSSES in his
>>>January 10, 1990 column. He wrote:

>>>"Conclusion: the U.S. Army killed ten times as many Germans in POW
>>>camps as we did on battlefields from Normandy to V.E. day. (German
>>>POWs) had their rations cut below survival level until they were dying
>>>at rates up to 30% of exposure, starvation and neglect... Red Cross
>>>food trains were turned back and U.S. food shipments sat on the
>>>docks...One French officer said the U.S. camps reminded him of Dachau
>>>and Buchenwald...The book blames Eisenhower. 'The German is a beast,'
>>>Ike had written...But that was not how the Canadians and British felt,
>>>who treated their prisoners justly...It was not the view of General
>>>Mark Clark, nor of Patton...Ignoring the book is not enough."
>>>Pat Buchanan's courageous column inspired me to help end the cover-up
>>>of the atrocity I had witnessed. I wrote letters to several newspapers
>>>which were, of necessity, short and incomplete. Now I would like to
>>>finally free more of my painful memories, hoping to be heard, so that
>>>this will help us to acknowledge our share in the "banality of evil",
>>>cleansing ourselves with the truth. Perhaps we as a nation may then
>>>put this behind us with some integrity and with some hope for
>>>redemption.

>>>In October 1944, at age eighteen, I was drafted into the army while a
>>>student at the NYS College of Forestry. Largely due to the "Battle of
>>>the Bulge", my training was cut short, my furlough cut in half, and I
>>>was then immediately sent overseas. Upon arrival in Le Havre, France,
>>>we were quickly loaded into boxcars and shipped to the front. By the
>>>time we reached it, I had developed mononucleosis severely enough to
>>>be sent to a hospital in Belgium.

>>>By the time I left the hospital, the unit I had trained with in
>>>Spartenburg, South Carolina was so deeply into Germany that I warn
>>>placed in a "repo depo" (a replacement depot) despite my protests. I
>>>then lost interest in which units I was assigned to because non-combat
>>>units were generally not respected. My separation qualification record
>>>states that I served mostly with the 14th Infantry Regiment, during
>>>which time I guarded prisoners of war and served as an interpreter.
>>>During my seventeen month stay in Germany, I was transferred to other
>>>outfits also.

>>>In late March or early April 1945, I was assigned to help guard a POW
>>>camp near Andernach along the Rhine. I had four years of high school
>>>German, so I was able to talk to the prisoners, although this was
>>>forbidden.

>>>Gradually, however, I was used as an interpreter and asked to ferret
>>>out the S.S. (I found none.)

>>>In Andernach, between 50,000 and 65,000 prisoners, ranging in age from
>>>very young teens to very old men, were crowded together in an open
>>>field surrounded by barbed wire. The women were kept in a separate
>>>enclosure which I did not see until later. The men I guarded had no
>>>tents or other shelter, no blankets and many had no coats. Inadequate
>>>numbers of slit trenches were provided for excrement, and so the men
>>>lived and slept in the mud and increasing filth during a cold, wet
>>>spring. Their misery from exposure alone was evident.

>>>It was even more shocking to see them eating grass, sometimes throwing
>>>it into a tin can containing a thin soup. They told me they did this
>>>hoping to ease their hunger pains. Soon their emaciation was evident.
>>>Dysentery raged and, too weak and crowded to reach the slit trenches,
>>>they were increasingly sleeping in excrement. I saw no sign of
>>>provision for water, so the thin soup was their food and water for the
>>>day. Some days there was bread, less than a slice each. Other days
>>>there was nothing.

>>>The sight of so many men desperate for food and water, sickening and
>>>dying before our eyes, is indescribable. Even now, I can only think of
>>>it momentarily.

>>>We had ample food and supplies that could have been shared more
>>>humanely, and we could have offered some medical assistance, but did
>>>nothing. Only the dead were quickly and efficiently taken care of:
>>>hauled away to mass graves.

>>>My outrage reached the point that I protested to my officers, but I
>>>was met with hostility or bland indifference. When pressed, they
>>>explained they were under strict orders from "higher up". No officer
>>>would dare to systematically do this to over 50,000 prisoners if he
>>>felt he was violating general policy and subject to court martial. The
>>>term "war criminal" was just beginning to come into fashion.

>>>Realizing my protests were useless, I asked a friend working in the
>>>kitchen if he could slip me some extra food for the prisoners. He too
>>>repeated that they were under strict orders to severely ration the
>>>prisoners' food, and that these orders came from "higher up". But he
>>>said they had more food than they knew what to do with and would sneak
>>>me some.

>>>When I threw this food over the barbed wires to the prisoners I was
>>>caught and threatened with imprisonment. I repeated the "offense", and
>>>one officer threatened to shoot me. I naturally assumed this was a
>>>bluff, but I began to have some doubts after I encountered a captain
>>>on a hill above the Rhine shooting down at a group of German civilian
>>>women with his .45 caliber pistol. When I asked, "Why?" he mumbled,
>>>"Target practice," and fired until his pistol was empty. I saw the
>>>women running for cover, but, at that distance, couldn't tell if any
>>>had been hit.

>>>This is when I more fully realized I was dealing with some
>>>cold-blooded killers filled with moralistic hatred. They considered
>>>the Germans sub-human and worthy of extermination; another expression
>>>of the downward spiral of racism. Articles in the G.I. newspaper,
>>>Stars & Stripes, played up the Nazi concentration camps, complete with
>>>photographs of emaciated bodies; this amplified our self-righteous
>>>cruelty and made it easier to imitate behavior we were supposed to
>>>oppose. Also, I think, soldiers not exposed to combat were trying to
>>>prove how tough they were by taking it out on the prisoners and
>>>civilians. At least, many combat soldiers told me later they would not
>>>have tolerated this, for they combined hatred with respect for a
>>>courageous enemy.

>>>The prisoners I spoke to were mostly simple farmers and workingmen, as
>>>ignorant, albeit nationalistic, as many of our own troops. I heard
>>>many versions of "my country, right or wrong, my country," which we
>>>still hear in our own country today.

>>>As time went on, many of them lapsed into a Zombie-like state of
>>>listlessness. Others, maddened by thirst, tried to escape in a
>>>desperate or suicidal fashion, running through open fields in broad
>>>daylight towards the Rhine to quench their thirst. They were mowed
>>>down.

>>>Some prisoners were extremely eager for cigarettes, saying they took
>>>the edge off their hunger. Accordingly, some enterprising G.I. "Yankee
>>>traders" were acquiring hordes of wrist watches and rings in exchange
>>>for handfuls of cigarettes or less. When I began throwing cartons of
>>>cigar-ettes to the prisoners to ruin this trade, I found myself
>>>threatened by rank-and-file G.I.s also. At least this taught me an
>>>indelible lesson: how wrong majorities and authorities can be.

>>>A bright spot in this gloomy picture came, oddly enough, one night
>>>when I was put on the "graveyard shift", from two to four A.M.
>>>Actually, there was a graveyard on the uphill side of this enclosure,
>>>not many yards away. My superiors had forgotten to give me a
>>>flashlight and I hadn't bothered to ask, being disgusted with the
>>>whole situation by that time. It was a fairly bright night and I soon
>>>became aware of a prisoner crawling under the wires to the graveyard.
>>>We were supposed to shoot escapees on sight, so I started to get up to
>>>warn him to get back. Suddenly I noticed another prisoner crawling
>>>from the graveyard back to the enclosure. They were risking their
>>>lives to get to the graveyard for something; I had to investigate.

>>>When I entered the gloom of this shrubby, tree-shaded cemetery, I
>>>never felt more vulnerable, but somehow curiosity kept me going.
>>>Despite my caution, I tripped over the legs of someone in a prone
>>>position. Whipping my rifle around while stumbling and trying to
>>>regain composure of mind and body, I soon was relieved I hadn't
>>>reflexively fired. The figure sat up, moving erratically. Gradually I
>>>could see the beautiful but terror-stricken face of a woman with a
>>>picnic basket nearby. German civilians were not allowed to feed, nor
>>>even come near, the prisoners, so I quickly assured her I approved of
>>>what she was doing, not to be afraid, and that I would leave the
>>>graveyard to get out of the way, telling no one.

>>>I left the graveyard as quickly as possible and sat down, leaning
>>>against a tree at the edge CF the cemetary to be inconspicuous and not
>>>frighten the prisoners. I imagined then, and often since, what it
>>>would be like to be a prisoner under those conditions and meet a
>>>beautiful woman with a picnic basket. I never saw her again, but I
>>>have never forgotten her face.

>>>While I watched, more prisoners crawled to and from the enclosure. I
>>>saw they were dragging food back to their comrades and could only
>>>admire their courage and devotion. As I walked back to my quarters at
>>>the end of my shift, a nightingale and I were singing -- both felt a
>>>touch of spring.

>>>(I originally did not intend to reveal the following incident, for it
>>>moves into a realm termed "mystical". However, for me, it was an
>>>extremely significant experience, changing my life, providing a light
>>>no darkness can extinguish. It must be told, hoping it will foster
>>>understanding.)

>>>On May 8, V.E. day, I decided to celebrate with some prisoners I was
>>>guarding who were baking bread, meager amounts of which the other
>>>prisoners occasionally received. This group had all the bread they
>>>could eat, and shared the jovial mood generated by the end of the war.
>>>We all thought we would be going home soon, a pathetic hope on their
>>>part. We were in what was to become the French zone, and I later
>>>witnessed the brutality of the French soldiers when we transferred our
>>>prisoners to them for their slave labor camps (see below).

>>>However, on this day we were happy.

>>>After chatting with them about the potentials of peace for the rest of
>>>our lives, I decided to risk a gesture of trust that objectively would
>>>seem foolish. I emptied my rifle and stood it in the corner. They
>>>tested me further by asking to play with it, and I agreed. Intuitively
>>>I felt I could rely on their sense of honor not to attack me, for they
>>>knew they too were being tested. This thoroughly 'broke the ice', and
>>>soon we were singing songs we taught each other or I had learned in
>>>high school German ("Du, du, liegst mir im Herzen"). Out of gratitude,
>>>they secretly baked a small sweet bread and insisted I take it,
>>>explaining it was the only possible gift they had left to offer.
>>>Expressing my gratitude with a lump in my throat, I put it in my tight
>>>"Eisenhower jacket" so I could sneak it back to my barracks. I later
>>>found an opportunity to eat it outside.

>>>Never had bread tasted more delicious, nor conveyed to me a deeper
>>>sense of communion while eating it. A wonderful feeling pervaded me,
>>>gently opening me to an intimation of the Oneness of all Being.
>>>Through those prisoners I sensed the ~cosmic presence of what has been
>>>called the Christ, Buddha-nature, or, perhaps most aptly, the
>>>Ineffable: cosmically present, but hidden and apparently separate,
>>>until revealed in the wholeness of the giving of the self. Even within
>>>the horror humans had created, I was taught a path to redemption may
>>>open by taking a first, tentative step in the direction of love,
>>>understanding and forgiveness. This above all the prisoners taught me:
>>>not only are we all potentially humane humans, there is divinity
>>>within us waiting for us to dissolve the defensive shield of ego. I
>>>was pleased to discover later the words of Matthew 25:34-46,
>>>expressing the potential within prisoners and all who are at our
>>>mercy.

>>>Shortly after this experience I was plunged into even greater horror.
>>>Some of our weak and sickly prisoners were being marched off by French
>>>soldiers to their camp. The truck we were on first passed another
>>>truck picking up bodies along the side of the road, and then came up
>>>behind a slowly moving column of men. Temporarily we slowed down and
>>>remained behind, perhaps because the driver was as shocked as I was.
>>>The French soldiers were apparently incensed at the poor condition of
>>>our prisoners, not only for labor but for marching to another camp.
>>>Whenever a prisoner staggered or dropped back, the French clubbed him
>>>to death and then dragged him to the side of the road. For many, this
>>>quick death might have been preferable to their prolonged suffering.
>>>Even gas would have been more merciful than our murder by neglect in
>>>our slow 'killing fields'.

>>>When I saw the German women held in a separate enclosure, I asked why
>>>we were keeping them. I was told they were "camp followers", selected
>>>as breeding stock for the S.S. to create a super-race. We provided
>>>them with tents but they were extremely hungry. I spoke to some and
>>>must say they were still spirited and attractive. However, I believe I
>>>was objective enough when I told all concerned that I didn't think
>>>they deserved our treatment.

>>>As an interpreter, I was able to prevent some particularly unfortunate
>>>arrests. One somewhat amusing incident occurred during a pre-dawn raid
>>>we conducted on a town to discover Nazis or arms. An old farmer was
>>>being dragged away by some soldiers. I was told he had a "fancy Nazi
>>>medal", which they showed to me. Fortunately, I had a chart
>>>identifying such medals. He had been awarded it for having five or
>>>more children! Perhaps his wife was somewhat relieved to get him "off
>>>her back", but I didn't think one of our 'death camps' was a fair
>>>punishment for his contribution to Germany. The soldiers agreed and
>>>released him to continue his "dirty work".

>>>Famine was spreading amongst German civilians also. It was a common
>>>sight to see German women up to their elbows in our garbage cans
>>>looking for something edible -- that is, when they weren't chased
>>>away.

>>>When I interviewed mayors of small towns and villages, I was told
>>>their supply of food had been taken away by "displaced persons"
>>>(foreigners who had worked in Germany), who packed the food on trucks
>>>and drove away. When I reported this, the response was a shrug or an
>>>expression of helplessness.

>>>Although the Red Cross coffee and doughnut stands were available
>>>everywhere for us, I never saw any Red Cross in the prison camps or
>>>helping the civilians. While my girlfriend had all the "contraband"
>>>doughnuts she could eat, most Germans had to share their meager hidden
>>>stores and wait until the next harvest.

>>>This hunger undoubtedly made many German women more "available", but,
>>>despite this, rape was incredibly prevalent and often accompanied by
>>>additional violence. I particularly remember a charming eighteen year
>>>old girl who had several unsuccessful suitors and was "just friends"
>>>with me, who had the side of her face smashed with a rifle butt and
>>>was then raped by two G.I.s. The casual shooting of German civilians
>>>also continued, usually by drunken soldiers who would tell of this as
>>>something amusing. All too many G.I.s gave the impression they were
>>>1ike animals released from cages, free to do what they liked because
>>>they were dealing with yet a lower species of animal, a reverse
>>>racism, inflamed by our propaganda. However, even the French
>>>complained to me that our rape and drunken destructive behavior in
>>>their country was excessive. When we had arrived in Le Havre, we had
>>>been given booklets instructing us that the Germans had maintained a
>>>high standard of behavior with French civilians who were peaceful, and
>>>that we should do the same. In this we failed miserably.

>>>So what? we might still say. The enemies' atrocities were worse than
>>>ours. Certainly my experiences were only of the last phases of the
>>>war, when we were already clearly the victors. The Nazi opportunity
>>>for atrocities had faded and ours was unleashed. But we might have
>>>learned the simple lesson that two wrongs do not make a right. Perhaps
>>>we might even have broken the cycle of vengeful retaliation and
>>>unbridled hatred, fed by racism, that has plagued human history and
>>>blighted human potential all to long. Instead, we committed our own
>>>atrocities and now are clinging to a cover-up. That is why I am
>>>speaking out now, forty-five years after the crime. We can never
>>>prevent individual war crimes, but we can, if enough of us speak out,
>>>influence government policy. We can reject government propaganda that
>>>depicts our enemies as subhuman and encourages the kinds of outrages I
>>>witnessed. We can protest the bombing of civilian targets, which still
>>>goes on today. (I will never forget the sickly sweet smell of rotting
>>>human flesh rising from the shattered remains of the cities and towns
>>>I entered.) And we can refuse ever to condone our government' s murder
>>>of unarmed and defeated prisoners of war.

>>>I realized it's difficult to admit witnessing a crime of this
>>>magnitude, especially if implicated oneself. Even G.I .s sympathetic
>>>to the victims told me they were afraid to oppose so massive a policy
>>>that would surely seek to cover its tracks. I never heard this
>>>directly from an officer, but it was the belief of the rank-and-file
>>>G.I.s I spoke to that we were not to "talk" because, first, no one
>>>would believe us, and second, we would surely get into trouble. They
>>>all insisted it was better not to talk, and slowly I too realized it
>>>would be futile and dangerous. That is, until now, thanks to James
>>>Bacque and Pat Buchanan. This is not to say the danger has passed.
>>>Since I "spoke out" recently, my mailbox has been smashed and I have
>>>received threatening phone calls. But I believe it is worth the risk.
>>>Writing about these atrocities has been a catharsis of feelings
>>>suppressed too long, a liberation, and perhaps will remind other
>>>witnesses and citizens -that "the truth shall make us free, have no
>>>fear." And, in any case, "the truth shall out".

>>>We may even learn a supreme lesson from all this: Hate is
>>>self-destructive; only love can conquer and evolve all as One.

>>>Martin Brech
>>>(Adjunct Professor,
>>>Philosophy & Religion,
>>>Mercy College;
>>>Ex-G.I., Finally Free)
>>>Martin Brech, 187 Archer Road, Mahopac, NY 10541, Tel.: 914-628-6301

>>>James Bacque: Did the Allies starve millions of Germans?


>>>Perhaps the Scheissedreck Shabbasgoy McVay wanted to further repost
>>>the following article...


Ken McVay from Nizkor seems to actually deny that something like death
camps for Germans even existed or that Germans were deliberately
starved to death (Rheinwiesenlager).
http://www.rheinwiesenlager.de/

He himself is some kind of "Holocaust Denier", when it comes to German
suffering.
Note that Nizkor virtually doesn't mention any German suffering:
http://www.nizkor.org/other-sites/genocides.html
No mentioning of Germans at all. But after all, why bother about those
subhumans that according to Nizkor and related sources "gassed millions of
Jews"?!


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just  to
justify his existence to his ZYD masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
work:(780)492-0473

Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZYD COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZYDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZYDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
for many years around the world.



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On 27 Nov 2005 16:19:47 -0800, "Ariadne" wrote:
>Jason P wrote:
>> By Paula Amann

>> Washington Jewish Week/Jewsweek - 2001

>> http://www.jewsweek.com/society/059.htm

>> They come to Israel from the Ukraine, Russia, and Moldova looking for
>> freedom. Instead they are sold as sex slaves. And you thought Israel
>> was holy.

>> Jewsweek.com | Their names are Natalya, Oxana or Svetlana. They come to
>> Israel, as immigrants do, for a better life. But their dreams of
>> working as a waitress, nurse, or au pair turn nightmarish upon their
>> arrival.

>> Their fellow countryman who met them at the airport, speaking the
>> language of home, takes them to a locked apartment with barred windows
>> and a phone that only takes incoming calls, where they are forced to
>> provide sexual services to strangers.

>> Those who rebel risk being raped, beaten, or starved. Even those who
>> knew they were going into prostitution are shocked by the stark
>> conditions, the pay of roughly 20 shekalim ($5) a day or less for their
>> labor.

>> This disturbing story unfolds all too often at the hotline for Migrant
>> Workers, a Tel Aviv agency founded in 1998 to protect the human rights
>> of foreign workers, victims of sex trafficking among them. The hotline
>> takes as its motto the familiar line from Exodus 22:20: "You shall not
>> wrong a stranger or oppress him, for you were strangers in the land of
>> Egypt."

>> Agency director and co-founder Sigal Rozen, along with the group's
>> counsel, Nomi Levenkron, were in Washington, D.C., last week to give a
>> lecture at the Johns Hopkins Nitze School of Advanced International
>> Studies, to network and to speak with supporters. Among them are the
>> New Israel Fund, which has given the hotline a total of $19,000 during
>> the past year and a half.

>> In an interview, Rozen called sex trafficking an "unorganized crime,"
>> based largely on personal networks of immigrants from the Ukraine,
>> Russia, and Moldova.

>> "... "It's easier being a trafficker than being a plumber ..."   --Nomi
>> Levenkron

>> Those three countries alone accounted for 91 percent of the 474 women
>> arrested in brothels and deported from Israel in 2000, according to
>> figures compiled by hotline volunteers during visits to the Neveh
>> Tirzah women's prison.

>> These statistics represent only a fraction of the problem. Police
>> spokespersons have set the number of women brought into the country to
>> work in the sex industry at 2,000-3,000 annually, the number of
>> brothels at 250, Rozen said.

>> "It's Misha that knows Sasha that knows Vladimir," added Levenkron,
>> noting the economic incentive to be a pimp or work with one. "It's
>> easier being a trafficker than being a plumber."

>> One day she got a phone call from a rape crisis center where a woman
>> pleaded to be arrested and deported.

>> This young Moldovian had twice tried to escape her pimp and at 18, was
>> burned out on prostitution and just wanted to go home.

>> "She's so young and sweet," reflected Levenkron. "She came to Israel to
>> be a waitress."

>> A year ago this month, Israel passed the Law Against Trafficking Women.
>> Before that time, other laws existed against soliciting, pimping, and
>> running brothels.

>> Yet hotline staff point out that few pimps involved in trafficking ever
>> face a judge, with the majority of prostitutes deported without ever
>> facing a trial that might involve their testimony against their pimps.
>> Out of 459 women deported in 1998, only 35 cases went to trial; out of
>> 253 in 1999, a scant five ended up in the courtroom.

>> Judicial indifference is compounded by police complicity, Levenkron
>> argued.

>> The 18-year-old Moldovian, it turned out, had at one point in her
>> misadventures, found herself in a Tel Aviv police station where some of
>> the officers, who were her clients, recognized her and moved to call
>> her pimp.

>> Overhearing their plans, the woman fled and moved in with a
>> client-turned-boyfriend.

>> But somehow the pimp found her again, threatened the boyfriend. The
>> young woman, with no place to go, went back to the brothel. Now the
>> case hangs in the courts, where Levenkron has faint hopes for a
>> positive outcome.

>> The police role in such trafficking ranges from casual to highly
>> serious, she alleged.

>> "There are police who just come as clients, those who get special
>> discounts because of their good relationships with the owner of the
>> place and those that inform the owner about police operations,"
>> explained Levenkron.

>> One young Beersheva prostitute told the attorney she was forced to work
>> seven days a week unless a police raid was expected.

>> Widespread fear of violence from pimps has muted the public outcry, say
>> hotline staff. When Levenkron filed a suit on behalf of a
>> Beersheva-based woman, a 20-year-old Moldovian who had survived six
>> pimps and multiple rapes, several of the lawyer's friends came to her
>> home to bid her a final farewell, in anticipation of her imminent
>> death, she said.

>> INTERNATIONAL PROBLEM

>> Worldwide, trafficking in persons for domestic service, forced labor,
>> and prostitution ranks third after drugs and guns among the activities
>> of international crime, according to a congressional service report
>> released May 10, 2000. For comparison, about 50,000 people are brought
>> to the United States annually, the report stated.

>> The rise in trafficking seen over the 1990s was fueled by feeble
>> economies in source countries, such as the former Soviet Union and
>> Southeast Asia, along with weak penalties for traffickers, said a
>> government official familiar with these issues.

>> Last October, the United States passed its own law addressing this
>> problem, the Victims of Trafficking and Violence Protection Act, which
>> calls on the State Department to report annually on the scope of
>> trafficking in various countries and measures taken to combat it. The
>> report was due for release on June 1, but its publication has been
>> delayed.

>> In Israel today, official policy on trafficking is to arrest and deport
>> foreign sex workers. The women are held for an average of 30 days under
>> crowded and sometimes harsh conditions, longer if they testify in court
>> against their pimps, according to hotline data.

>> Rozen and Levenkron take issue with this approach. "Deporting women
>> doesn't make things better," said Levenkron. "I'm tired of shouting
>> this all over Israel so I've come here [to the United States] to shout
>> about it."

>> Rozen contends that a one-year work permit in specified fields such as
>> home health care or child care, before their return home, would put the
>> former prostitutes in a stronger position to take care of themselves.

>> Gruesome albeit unsubstantiated stories abound, she says, about revenge
>> attacks on returning women and their families by the original
>> trafficker in the home country.

>> A nest egg from a year's legitimate work, Rozen suggests, would allow
>> victims to re-establish themselves in a new community and stay out of
>> the clutches of traffickers in the future.

>> Meanwhile, Levenkron is seeking professional back-up in her job
>> representing the victims of trafficking.

>> "I am the [hotline] legal department," laments Levenkron. "We need
>> lawyers and we need public awareness."


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The ZYD slav posting from Sweden has not a clue about what he writes!!
Why the Swedish government allowed this parasite to reside there is presently
unknown, but if enough complaints are filed with Stockholm, perhaps they will
then deport him back to his clan hovel!!

In WWII, so many prominente ZYDS CVOLLABORATED WITH THE NAZIS - such as
KASTNER, RUMKOWSKI, WIESENTHAL plus at least another 50 senior ZYDS!!


On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 10:57:43 GMT, "captain."  wrote:
>"pan Piotr Glownia"  
>wrote in message news:8vUSg.171$y37.71@nntpserver.swip.net...
>> In article , "captain." 
>>  wrote:
>>>"pan Piotr Glownia" 
>>>wrote in message news:vbDSg.251$nn3.142@nntpserver.swip.net...
>>>> In article , "captain." 
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:

>>>>>"slavland for slavs" sounds like an amusement park.

>>>> For you yes. For us Slavs no.

>>>> We Slavs will show you Aryans how to exit our home quite soon enough.
>>>> And by the way... Slavland is the name of Europe in Slavic. So you 
>>>> better start learning how to swim too.

>>>i don't live in europe. but if i did i don't think i would be very
>>>intimidated by the above statement.
>>>also, i am doubtful that slavland is indeed a slavonic word. i would need
>>>confirmation from someone other than you to accept it.

>> LOL... Sl'owian's'c'yzna is the Slavic word... It means "Slavic fortune".
>> I'm sure they wrote something about it on wikipedia...

>slavic fortune and "slavland" are two different things . you claimed that 
>"slavland" was a slavonic word. isn't it time to admit that you may have 
>made a mistake? :)

>> Why should you feel intimidated? Is Slavic unity and Slavic brotherhood
>> so intimidating for the Aryan race?

>hmmm, that's a good question. maybe you should go to germany (or other 
>suitable "aryan" nation) and ask a few people. i'm sure that they would be 
>more than delighted to discuss it with you.

>We won one war with Aryans... It doesn't
>> mean we will win the next one too. So why intimidating?

>sounds like you're almost ready for some jihad action???





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