The Nizkor Project: Remembering the Holocaust (Shoah)

Shofar FTP Archive File: people/g/grosvenor.william/2006/via-shaw.200604


From Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:53:17 EDT 2007
Article: 529483 of soc.culture.canada
Xref: sn-us ca.politics:455242 can.general:340755 soc.culture.canada:529483 tor.general:311791
Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-04!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-06!sn-xt-sjc-14!supernews.com!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2so!shaw.ca!pd7tw3no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail
X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.149.230.220
From: Asterix 
Newsgroups: ca.politics,can.general,soc.culture.canada,tor.general
Subject: Re: Lisa Poslun - Another Victim of Lax Immigrtion Laws?
Reply-To: Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com
Message-ID: 
References: <0t8b329b2b540jb1906oaig78m7p9ij37k@4ax.com> <979DC02115454@66.150.105.47>
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Lines: 132
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 15:44:51 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176
X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca
X-Trace: pd7tw3no 1144424691 64.59.135.176 (Fri, 07 Apr 2006 09:44:51 MDT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 09:44:51 MDT
Organization: Shaw Residential Internet

Could it be that the ZYD-controlled media are making a big story, only
because the victim was one of them?

The media have not been so concerned about victims of other ethnic
groups getting raped and murdered!! On the contrary the media have
asked for MORE immigrants from places such as Israel and Haiti,
especially for those being AIDS-spreaders claiming refugee status from
these 2 countries.



On 06 Apr 2006 23:26:25 GMT, loser@pushbroom.net (David "Toad"
Buchanan) wrote:

>ALL Immigrants are criminals because ALL Immigrants come to Canada so they 
>can vote Liberal and to steal away all the good meanial labour, cab driving 
>and floor sweeping jobs from illiterate right wing NeoNazi Racists like me!
>
>Thanks to the damn Immigrants, I've been on welfare for 20 years and I can't 
>afford my cigarettes and beer anymore!
>
>It's time that all Canadians rallied behind me in my cause to stop 
>immigration to Canada and give first choice for meanial labour, cab driving 
>and floor sweeping jobs from illiterate right wing NeoNazi Racists like me!

>The Toad  the.toad@trashcanistan.ca wrote:
>
>>LISA POSLUN - ANOTHER VICTIM OF LAX IMMIGRATION LAWS?
>
>Accused killer left his DNA at scene
>crown: Murder trial opens: Prosecutor lays out case against janitor in 
>Yorkville slaying
> 	
>Peter Brieger	
>National Post	
>
>Wednesday, January 18, 2006
>
>The trial of the man charged with killing Yorkville commercial real estate 
>broker Lisa Posluns three years ago began yesterday with the prosecutor 
>describing the Crown's scientific case against the accused as "very powerful 
>evidence of his presence" at the crime scene.
>
>At the opening of the first-degree murder trial of Nelson DeJesus, 36, Susan 
>Orlando told a jury of three women and nine men assembled in a Toronto 
>courtroom that, "what is exceptional about this case is that Nelson DeJesus 
>left behind his DNA."
>
>Not only was the accused's saliva and semen found on the victim's underwear 
>and jeans, Ms. Orlando said, but the 38-year-old woman's own genetic markers 
>were present inside a knife sheath and handcuffs found on Mr. DeJesus when he 
>was arrested in March, 2003 -- after he led police on a foot chase when they 
>arrived at his Toronto home.
>
>That was about four months after Ms. Posluns' body was found in a storage 
>room at her office building, lying in a pool of her blood from seven stab 
>wounds and a slit across her throat.
>
>The office is nestled squarely in the heart of Toronto's tony retail 
>district, prompting media at the time to dub her death the Yorkville Murder.
>
>Speaking to the jury, Ms. Orlando said forensic scientists pegged the 
>likelihood that it was not Ms. Posluns' DNA on Mr. DeJesus's handcuffs as a 
>statistically impossible one in three trillion.
>
>For any jurors who may wonder if Mr. DeJesus and Ms. Posluns -- an estranged 
>member of the Dylex retailing empire -- were engaged in a consensual sexual 
>relationship, perhaps involving restraining devices such as handcuffs, Ms. 
>Orlando sought to disavow those questions, too.
>
>The accused man's shoe left a print in the victim's blood at the crime scene, 
>and he called her office on at least five occasions outside of regular hours 
>-- blocking his number several times -- to check whether the "workaholic" was 
>working late in the months before her murder, Ms. Orlando told the jury.
>
>But in an interview with police after he was arrested, Mr. DeJesus -- a 
>cleaner at the building who sometimes tidied up the victim's fifth-floor 
>office -- denied killing Ms. Posluns, or even knowing the victim beyond an 
>occasional greeting in the building.
>
>"Nelson DeJesus had no reason to call [the victim]," Ms. Orlando said. "He 
>was trying to figure out the right time to execute his plan to sexually 
>assault and murder her."
>
>Witnesses at the trial, which is expected to last about two months, had also 
>seen Mr. DeJesus loitering around the building's lobby when he wasn't 
>working, and he lied to other cleaning staff when each of them offered up 
>reasons they couldn't have committed the murder, Ms. Orlando said.
>
>Mr. DeJesus said he was working at Mississauga's Square One shopping mall 
>when Ms. Posluns died on Saturday, Nov. 3, 2002 -- a claim later exposed as a 
>"lie," Ms. Orlando warned.
>
>Also, as a janitor, Mr. DeJesus was "intimately" familiar with the building's 
>layout and the quickest way to a "remote" first-floor utility room where Ms. 
>Posluns' life was cut short, the Crown prosecutor said.
>
>Investigators believe Mr. DeJesus attacked Ms. Posluns in the hallway as she 
>was about to lock up the office and go home to make a nightly call to her 
>mother, which never came.
>
>"In that lonely hallway outside her office, Lisa Posluns' life took a tragic 
>turn -- Lisa Posluns was not alone in that hallway," Ms. Orlando said.
>
>Leading the woman downstairs, Mr. DeJesus sexually assaulted Ms. Posluns who 
>-- as the victim's torn and hastily arranged clothing suggests -- was trying 
>to get dressed before her attacker repeatedly plunged a knife into her body.
>
>She was dragged into the utility room where Mr. DeJesus ended the woman's 
>life with a slash across her throat, Ms. Orlando said.
>
>The man's former boss will testify Mr. DeJesus knew of the room and its 
>"faulty lock," which could be opened with a solid nudge, she added.
>
>"That is where she succumbed to her injuries, alone in a small, dark utility 
>room where no one could come to her aid," Ms. Orlando said.
>
>Mr. DeJesus then made his escape through a one-way exit door that empties 
>into what would have been a near-deserted parking lot that Saturday night, 
>the Crown lawyer added.
>
>The trial continues today.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>*** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com ***
>*** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com ***



From Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:53:17 EDT 2007
Article: 529737 of soc.culture.canada
Xref: sn-us rec.travel.air:617205 rec.travel.marketplace:147541 rec.travel.usa-canada:303074 soc.culture.usa:1851743 can.general:341196 soc.culture.canada:529737
Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-04!sn-xt-sjc-12!sn-xt-sjc-08!sn-xt-sjc-14!supernews.com!postnews.google.com!news3.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2so!shaw.ca!pd7tw3no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail
X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.149.230.220
From: Asterix 
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air,rec.travel.marketplace,rec.travel.usa-canada,soc.culture.usa,can.general,soc.culture.canada
Subject: Re: Priceline Does NOT Want Canada Customers!! (A disgruntled prospective customer)
Reply-To: Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com
Message-ID: <9p0l32dt57g2epgq94vnvmq1400qi3dfe8@4ax.com>
References: <96ai329at77uhknmss9erh7mgkrn598srj@4ax.com> <123j368nscd93cd@corp.supernews.com>
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Lines: 90
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 16:10:20 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176
X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca
X-Trace: pd7tw3no 1144685420 64.59.135.176 (Mon, 10 Apr 2006 10:10:20 MDT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 10:10:20 MDT
Organization: Shaw Residential Internet

When Priceline refuses to book air tickets for Canadians, why should
Canadians bother to book anything else with these clowns?

After all, the competitors accept bookings from Canadians for air
tickets, and then get all the rest of the travel business as well, in
exchange for being sensible.

Your comment regarding problems from Priceline partners makes
absolutely no sense whatsoever.

One can have credit cards from banks all over the world, and once the
payment is made, from any credit card, that should be the end of it
for the booking agent.

It seems that Priceline just isn't up to date with payment by credit
card, or else just does not want business from non-yanks!!

In any case, they are now blacklisted, and will NEVER ever get any
business from me, my clients, friends, or prabably even enemies.
Hopefully they will soon go under, or get taken over by a more
sensible operator.


On Sun, 9 Apr 2006 18:37:39 -0400, "LVTravel" 
wrote:

>This is not factual about credit cards since you can't book on Priceline if 
>you don't have a credit or debit card.  If you get a US billing address for 
>your credit card you can book all you want on Priceline.  See the quote from 
>their email back to you "the U.S. billing address requirement is a result of 
>contractual obligations with our travel partners."

This is NOt credible, since a P.O.Box is no assurance of a US address,
other than for mail.

>The travel partners (airlines in this case) generally set the rules for any 
>travel booked from any "travel agent".  Apparently their travel partners for 
>hotels and auto rentals are not as tight, as this quote shows "If you have a 
>Canadian billing address, you may use our website to book Rental Cars and 
>Hotel reservations."

Makes no sense at all, since as long as they get paid, who cares where
the customer lives?

>"Asterix"  wrote in message 
>news:96ai329at77uhknmss9erh7mgkrn598srj@4ax.com...
>>> From: "'Customer Service" 
>>> Subject: Customer Service  (KMM19676808V43949L0KM)
>>> Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 20:53:12 -0400

>>> Dear Sir

>>> Thank you for taking the time to send us an e-mail. We understand that
>>> you are unable to register on our website, as it does not allow any
>>> customers from Canada.

>>> At this time, customers outside the United States are unable to create
>>> user profiles because a U.S. billing address is still required to
>>> purchase Air and Package reservations. In turn, the U.S. billing address
>>> requirement is a result of contractual obligations with our travel
>>> partners.

>>> If you have a Canadian billing address, you may use our website to book
>>> Rental Cars and Hotel reservations - you just won't be able to create a
>>> profile.

>>> We apologize for the inconvenience  and hope this information is useful
>>> to you.
>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Neeraj S.
>>> Customer Service Specialist


>>> Original Message Follows:
>>> -------------------------
>>> Subject: Unable to Register
>>> Product: AIRLINE
>>> Category: About Airline Tickets
>>> Name: removed
>>> Request Number:

>>> Comments:
>>> I am in Canada.
>>> Your program apparently does not want any customers from Canada.
>>> It will not allow us to register.

>> Apparently Priceline has never heard of paying by Credit Cards!!! 




From Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:53:18 EDT 2007
Article: 529793 of soc.culture.canada
Xref: sn-us edm.general:316089 edm.politics:11964 ab.general:109162 can.general:341487 soc.culture.canada:529793
Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-02!sn-xt-sjc-11!sn-xt-sjc-07!sn-xt-sjc-09!sn-xt-sjc-05!supernews.com!207.217.77.43.MISMATCH!elnk-pas-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2so!shaw.ca!pd7tw3no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail
X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.149.230.220
From: Asterix 
Newsgroups: edm.general,edm.politics,ab.general,can.general,soc.culture.canada
Subject: Re: Edmonton Council OVERPAID!!
Reply-To: Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com
Message-ID: <22qn32hubh0scgg0tr2s5i11rl1fqgh5mm@4ax.com>
References: <30HIV8NT38817.2354050926@reece.net.au>
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Lines: 67
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 17:41:35 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176
X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca
X-Trace: pd7tw3no 1144777295 64.59.135.176 (Tue, 11 Apr 2006 11:41:35 MDT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 11:41:35 MDT
Organization: Shaw Residential Internet

Guys, stop discussing ambulances.

How much do you think would be fair pay for the clowns on council,
plus the mare?

I doubt that we would get any candidates if we paid them what they are
REALLY worth, but at least give them something, for wasting hundreds
of millions - say welfare rates?


On 9 Apr 2006 21:38:59 -0000, Dump The Crooks 
wrote:

>Canadian Taxpayers Association has exposed what many Edmonton taxpayers have
>long suspected.
>
>Because the city council and mayor pay themselves by having one third TAXFREE,
>unlike most honest taxpayers, they are in fact way overpaid for the scams they
>are endorsing.
>
>CTA have confirmed that city councillors are in fact getting the equivalent of
>$85,110 per year, which is more than other cities are paying.
>
>The mayor is seriously overpaid, getting the equivalent of $167,870 a year!!
>This means that the mayor of Deadmonton gets $6,000 more than Ralph Klein,
>Premier of Alberta!!
>
>Time to dump ALL the mayor and Council, and replace them with honest, hard-working
>councvillors getting a basic pay of $52,000 a year - PLUS BONUSES BASED ON LOWER TAXES
>AND BETTER PERFORMANCE OF CITY ESSENTIAL FUNCTIONS!
>
>At the same time, Council should implement ZBB - Zero Based Budgetting, and fire
>all unnecessary city managers, and close down non-appropriate city departments.
>Let the federal and provincial governments operate those functions which are THEIR responsibilities, such as arts, sports,multiculuralism, and welfare, to name a few.
>
>Sharx, Sew, Grosvenor - care to comment?
>
>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>is a revolutionary act."
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages.
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant
>



From Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:53:18 EDT 2007
Article: 529813 of soc.culture.canada
Xref: sn-us can.taxes:94761 can.general:341577 edm.general:316184 soc.culture.canada:529813 tor.general:312691
Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-03!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-06!sn-xt-sjc-05!supernews.com!207.217.77.43.MISMATCH!elnk-pas-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2so!shaw.ca!pd7tw2no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail
X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.149.230.220
From: Asterix 
Newsgroups: can.taxes,can.general,edm.general,soc.culture.canada,tor.general
Subject: Re: CRA To Refuse CASH Payments?
Reply-To: Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com
Message-ID: 
References:  <1144785155.695323.211710@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <3d9o32t0doa14sj6lcnect54lr83932imq@4ax.com> <1144793091.512701.52570@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Lines: 13
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 23:37:46 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176
X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca
X-Trace: pd7tw2no 1144798666 64.59.135.176 (Tue, 11 Apr 2006 17:37:46 MDT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 17:37:46 MDT
Organization: Shaw Residential Internet

The cashier at Canada Place, at the CRA payments section, says they
will soon be refusing cash payments.

This is clearly illegals.
Is it because CRA staff have been stealing too much?


On 11 Apr 2006 15:04:51 -0700, "Joe" 
wrote:

>Are they refusing to accept cash sent in ht e mail?  If so, that is
>standard business practice.



From Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:53:18 EDT 2007
Article: 529896 of soc.culture.canada
Xref: sn-us rec.travel.usa-canada:303303 can.general:341703 soc.culture.canada:529896
Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-02!sn-xt-sjc-11!sn-xt-sjc-09!sn-xt-sjc-14!supernews.com!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2so!shaw.ca!pd7tw2no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail
X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.149.230.220
From: Asterix 
Newsgroups: rec.travel.usa-canada,can.general,soc.culture.canada
Subject: Re: Vacation in Vancouver not recommended
Reply-To: Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com
Message-ID: <81dr32pla38aklnirn26q9jooso9ioo99t@4ax.com>
References: <1144866925.999442.85790@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Lines: 33
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 02:14:20 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176
X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca
X-Trace: pd7tw2no 1144894460 64.59.135.176 (Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:14:20 MDT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:14:20 MDT
Organization: Shaw Residential Internet

Canada Immigration prefers to admit bogus refugees claiming they are
AIDS-spreading fags from Israel and Haiti, or Poland.

I must assume that you did not fit this profile of what Canada
considers acceptable visitors?

On 12 Apr 2006 11:35:26 -0700, sandar@gmail.com wrote:

>Vancouver is a lovely city, but if you tell them you are vacationing
>for 7 days in Vancouver they will interrogate you for an hour, while
>reading your diary, and asking you about its contents.  (They went
>through my other luggage too, but speant the most time on my notebook.)
>
>That is what happened to me last week.  They said that vacatining for 7
>days in Vancouver was suspicious and the reason I was subject to this
>invasion of privacy.
>
>Well, the interrogation left a bad taste in my mouth, and put a damper
>on my vacation.  Definitely, I have no intentinon of returning, and
>will tell everyone I know that to vacation in Vancouver is to be
>interrogated. (Not friendly questions, but rapid bombardments, designed
>to be upsetting and find out all sorts of personal information.  Which
>they did.  None of which was incriminating, but personal business I
>don't share with most people and was NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS!  I felt
>violated.)
>
>I have travelled internationally on many occasions, and have had my
>luggage searched before, but I have never been so personally attacked!
>.  At  Heathrow they searched my carry-ons, but did not INTERROGATE me.
>
>Now I believe Canada is an extreme police state
>I HATE CANADA!



From Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:53:19 EDT 2007
Article: 529961 of soc.culture.canada
Xref: sn-us edm.general:316451 edm.politics:11969 ab.general:109186 can.general:341899 soc.culture.canada:529961
Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-02!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-06!sn-xt-sjc-14!supernews.com!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2so!shaw.ca!pd7tw1no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail
X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.149.230.220
From: Asterix 
Newsgroups: edm.general,edm.politics,ab.general,can.general,soc.culture.canada
Subject: Another Crooked Edmonton Cops Expose!!
Reply-To: Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com
Message-ID: 
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Lines: 29
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 14:06:20 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176
X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca
X-Trace: pd7tw1no 1145023580 64.59.135.176 (Fri, 14 Apr 2006 08:06:20 MDT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 08:06:20 MDT
Organization: Shaw Residential Internet

The Edmonton Journal, in a banner headline story on page B1 of today's
paper, exposes yet another swindle involving Edmonton's crooked cops!!

They exposed a so-called CHARITY SCAM, for a so-called "benefit" game
run under the style of "Oldtimers Hockey Challenge".

This scam collected more than $250,000 through fraudulent telephone
solicitors, claiming the money was going to a charity.

In fact, only $20,000 actually goes to a local women's shelter safe
house.

Almost all the money goes to a scam business called Xentel DM Inc, out
of Calgary, not even a local business. In the USA, XENTEL has been the
subject of investigations alleging deceptive telemarketing, as well as
for breaching do-not-call laws.

In Iowa, in November 2004, Xentel was forced to stop abusive and
misleading calls in fundraising and solicitations, and was forced to
pay $30,000 in penalties.

Since almost all the money goes to a for-profit business, rather than
to a registered charity, why isn't the provincial government charging
the crooks and their sponsors with FRAUD?

This scam was being promoted by the Edmonton Police Faded Blues 
Hockey team.

Just one more scandal for the new chief to clean up!


From Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:53:19 EDT 2007
Article: 529979 of soc.culture.canada
Xref: sn-us edm.general:316491 edm.politics:11974 ab.general:109189 can.general:341952 soc.culture.canada:529979
Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-03!sn-xt-sjc-11!sn-xt-sjc-09!sn-xt-sjc-13!supernews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2so!shaw.ca!pd7tw1no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail
X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.149.230.220
From: Asterix 
Newsgroups: edm.general,edm.politics,ab.general,can.general,soc.culture.canada
Subject: Re: Another Crooked Edmonton Cops Expose!!
Reply-To: Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com
Message-ID: <5tvv325hcquf239jm02qa2lbf3efaio6dj@4ax.com>
References:  
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Lines: 58
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 20:14:35 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176
X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca
X-Trace: pd7tw1no 1145045675 64.59.135.176 (Fri, 14 Apr 2006 14:14:35 MDT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 14:14:35 MDT
Organization: Shaw Residential Internet

It was the crooked Edmonton cops, who willingly gave their name to
this scam, so that the Police Hockey team would get publicity.

because they are cops, they can not plead ignorance, of the laws!!

Just another scam involving crooked Edmonton cops, what?


On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 15:58:35 GMT, "PV" 
wrote:
>"Asterix"  wrote in message 
>news:h6bv32hi1ur7da598ubcid0ic0jovabblm@4ax.com...
>> The Edmonton Journal, in a banner headline story on page B1 of today's
>> paper, exposes yet another swindle involving Edmonton's crooked cops!!
>>
>> They exposed a so-called CHARITY SCAM, for a so-called "benefit" game
>> run under the style of "Oldtimers Hockey Challenge".
>>
>> This scam collected more than $250,000 through fraudulent telephone
>> solicitors, claiming the money was going to a charity.
>>
>> In fact, only $20,000 actually goes to a local women's shelter safe
>> house.
>>
>> Almost all the money goes to a scam business called Xentel DM Inc, out
>> of Calgary, not even a local business. In the USA, XENTEL has been the
>> subject of investigations alleging deceptive telemarketing, as well as
>> for breaching do-not-call laws.
>>
>> In Iowa, in November 2004, Xentel was forced to stop abusive and
>> misleading calls in fundraising and solicitations, and was forced to
>> pay $30,000 in penalties.
>>
>> Since almost all the money goes to a for-profit business, rather than
>> to a registered charity, why isn't the provincial government charging
>> the crooks and their sponsors with FRAUD?
>>
>> This scam was being promoted by the Edmonton Police Faded Blues
>> Hockey team.
>>
>> Just one more scandal for the new chief to clean up!
>
>Funny my Journal says "Big Drainage Bill coming"
>
>Xentel approached the faded blues, set it up, organized it and then skimmed 
>85% of the money.  This is a Xentel scam, not a police scam, the police 
>hired the wrong organization.
>
>Of course so did the Organ Donation and Transplant Association of Canada.  I 
>am not calling them corrupt but told them I would not donate anything to 
>Xentel who would pull the same scam.
>
>It's time the Alberta government shut down this company, or force them to 
>clean up their act.
>
>PV 
>



From Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:53:19 EDT 2007
Article: 530037 of soc.culture.canada
Xref: sn-us rec.travel.europe:836129 can.general:342070 soc.culture.canada:530037 ab.general:109196
Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-02!sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-03!sn-xt-sjc-11!sn-xt-sjc-09!sn-xt-sjc-05!supernews.com!newsfeed.news2me.com!peer01.west.cox.net!cox.net!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2so!shaw.ca!pd7tw1no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail
X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.149.230.220
From: Asterix 
Newsgroups: rec.travel.europe,can.general,soc.culture.canada,ab.general
Subject: Re: avoid Edmonton CANADA  at all cost
Reply-To: Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com
Message-ID: <8u1242hsd89obc526hhb33ip19o6kqi86b@4ax.com>
References: 
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Lines: 8
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 14:47:51 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176
X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca
X-Trace: pd7tw1no 1145112471 64.59.135.176 (Sat, 15 Apr 2006 08:47:51 MDT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 08:47:51 MDT
Organization: Shaw Residential Internet

The OP was referring to Edmonton CANADA, not the nice place Edmonton
in Britain, near London.

On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 02:10:23 GMT, gel  wrote:

>a crappy city,,,cold weather..bad expensive food.....cold people...high
>crime.......cops corrupted



From Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:53:19 EDT 2007
Article: 530150 of soc.culture.canada
Xref: sn-us soc.culture.usa:1854498 alt.politics.europe:60216 can.general:342421 soc.culture.canada:530150 uk.politics.misc:1701566
Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-04!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-01!sn-xt-sjc-05!supernews.com!207.217.77.43.MISMATCH!elnk-pas-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2so!shaw.ca!pd7tw3no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail
X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.149.230.220
From: Asterix 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,alt.politics.europe,can.general,soc.culture.canada,uk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: Yellow Peril in Canada: "Chinese Industrial Spying"-Should Be More Concerned About ISRAELI Spying!!
Reply-To: Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com
Message-ID: 
References: <1145288263.1679330174.4648173588@blythe.org>
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Lines: 67
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 16:23:51 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176
X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca
X-Trace: pd7tw3no 1145291031 64.59.135.176 (Mon, 17 Apr 2006 10:23:51 MDT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 10:23:51 MDT
Organization: Shaw Residential Internet

Instead of worrying about the small amount of spying in Canada done by
the Chinese, the stupid canucks should be more concerned about all the
ISRAELI spies in Canada, most of which are like the Cohen gang,
ILLEGALLY in Canada.

On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 15:44:17 GMT, NY.Transfer.News@blythe.org wrote:

>Yellow Peril in Canada: "Chinese Industrial Spying"
>
>Via NY Transfer News Collective  *  All the News that Doesn't Fit
> 
>Reuters via Yahoo - Apr 16, 2006
>http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060416/wl_nm/china_dc_1
>
>Canada worried by Chinese industrial spying
>
>OTTAWA (Reuters) - The Canadian government is very worried by the
>extent of Chinese industrial espionage inside Canada and will raise
>its concerns with Beijing, Foreign Minister Peter MacKay said in an
>interview broadcast on Sunday.
>
>MacKay said it was particularly important to protect such Canadian
>companies as Research in Motion, maker of the portable e-mail
>BlackBerry device.
>
>"We're very concerned about economic espionage and it would appear
>based on evidence and reporting that there is a fair bit of activity,"
>he told CTV.
>
>"It's something we want to signal we're prepared to address and to
>continue to raise with the Chinese at the appropriate time. We're very
>much a country that needs to protect its technology," he said.
>
>Research In Motion said last week it expected to launch its wireless
>e-mail service in China by mid-year. Canadian media reports say
>state-controlled China Unicom this month introduced its own version,
>nicknamed the Redberry.
>
>MacKay is a member of the new Conservative government, which defeated
>the Liberals in a January 23 election. When in opposition, he accused
>the Liberals of doing little to prevent China from stealing Canadian
>industrial secrets.
>
>Last June, amid a furor over allegations by a Chinese defector who
>said Beijing had more than 1,000 spies in Canada, the Liberals said
>they would tighten investment laws to give Ottawa the right to block
>the foreign takeover of any Canadian company for national security
>reasons.
>
>       
>                                *
>================================================================
> NY Transfer News Collective    *    A Service of Blythe Systems
>           Since 1985 - Information for the Rest of Us          
> 339 Lafayette St., New York, NY 10012     http://www.blythe.org
> List Archives:   http://olm.blythe-systems.com/pipermail/nytr/
> Subscribe: http://olm.blythe-systems.com/mailman/listinfo/nytr
>================================================================
>
>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
>Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux)
>
>iD8DBQFEQ7ZDiz2i76ou9wQRAqzhAKCkfuNyOWnH0ye30wAuElBZaXZ7fgCeO6zG
>kxwIh1JR0AHvZJgnU1hjW2M=
>=Bg0z
>-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----



From Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:53:19 EDT 2007
Article: 530272 of soc.culture.canada
Xref: sn-us soc.culture.singapore:1296148 soc.culture.indonesia:403515 soc.culture.australian:386388 alt.activism.death-penalty:407352 soc.culture.canada:530272 soc.culture.europe:548255
Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-02!sn-xt-sjc-12!sn-xt-sjc-08!sn-xt-sjc-13!supernews.com!newshub.sdsu.edu!peer01.west.cox.net!cox.net!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2so!shaw.ca!pd7tw1no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail
X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.149.230.220
From: Asterix 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore,soc.culture.indonesia,soc.culture.australian,alt.activism.death-penalty,soc.culture.canada,soc.culture.europe
Subject: Re: 2 more Aussie Drug Traffickers to be Hanged - GOOD!
Reply-To: Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com
Message-ID: <6j4a42ds6kgtp3if0cmgia3astvdso8ho7@4ax.com>
References: <1140230604.755199.42230@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Lines: 168
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 16:20:59 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176
X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca
X-Trace: pd7tw1no 1145377259 64.59.135.176 (Tue, 18 Apr 2006 10:20:59 MDT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 10:20:59 MDT
Organization: Shaw Residential Internet

At least the government of Indonesia know what to do with garbage
people, such as drug dealers.

They know, as do other sensible governments in the area, that an
executed criminal will never re-offend!!

Further, an executed waste of skin, will not cost the taxpayers for
the upkeep in some pampering prison system!!

If only the justice systems in North America would follow suit!!!


On 17 Feb 2006 18:43:24 -0800, "LifeManTalking" 
wrote:

>AUSTRALIA - Few Australians have much sympathy for Andrew Chan and
>Myuran Sukumaran, the two drug traffickers sentenced to death in Bali
>this week for their failed bid to smuggle more than 8kg of heroin on to
>the streets of Sydney.

>The lives of too many of their young people have been destroyed by
>drugs and, as innumerable letters to newspapers and callers to talkback
>radio have pointed out, Chan and Sukumaran could never have been in any
>doubt of the risk they took in running narcotics through Indonesia.

>But the prospect of the pair being taken from Kerobokan jail, tied to a
>tree in some lonely clearing, and shot by a paramilitary firing squad
>raises deep and disturbing moral, political and diplomatic dilemmas for
>a nation that last executed a criminal almost 40 years ago and now
>opposes the death penalty worldwide.

>Their own police provided the information that inevitably led to
>Tuesday's sentence. Their Government welcomed the death penalty given
>to the Bali bombers but opposes the same fate for Australian drug
>traffickers, and public opinion is repulsed by the prospect of
>executions at home but inconsistently accepts them abroad.

>It is a diplomatic minefield that Canberra traversed when
>Vietnamese-born Melburnian Van Tuong Nguyen was hanged in Singapore in
>December for taking heroin through Changi airport, despite Australian
>appeals for clemency.

>It is also a minefield that the nation will confront time and again:
>despite repeated warnings and the appalling reality of executions,
>there will always be people foolish enough to strap drugs to their
>bodies or conceal it in their luggage.

>Almost all will pass through Southeast Asia, the source of most of
>Australia's heroin (the Bali Nine consignment originated in Thailand)
>and where every country but Cambodia compulsorily hangs, shoots or
>lethally injects traffickers.

>Mike Phelan, the head of international operations for the Australian
>Federal Police and the man responsible for giving Indonesia the
>information it needed to arrest the Bali Nine, sees no end to the queue
>of couriers the trade calls "mules".

>"It continues to astound me that people attempt importations and move
>drugs through transit countries knowing that the death penalty exists,"
>he told ABC's Australian Story. "Many young lives get thrown away for
>the law of quick dollars."

>The AFP's role in the arrest of the Bali Nine is among the most
>sensitive of the issues facing Prime Minister John Howard, who has
>already weathered a barrage of criticism that has extended even into
>his own party room.

>The AFP caught the first whispers of a major heroin importing run in
>February last year and, in April, asked the Indonesian police to help
>uncover the members of the syndicate and the source of their supplies.

>Between them, the two forces discovered most of the names and built a
>remarkably accurate picture of their operation, including details of a
>previous successful run and another aborted attempt.

>This co-operation has become increasingly commonplace, spurred by the
>determination of all countries in the region to attack drug trafficking
>and terrorism. Intelligence swapping is required under a number of
>treaties.

>"We make no secret of the fact that the AFP has a policy of forward
>engagement where we want to stop the crimes at the source and (prevent
>them) from reaching Australian shores," Phelan said. "That's a practice
>we will continue to operate within."

>What worries many Australians is the fact that the AFP in effect turned
>over a group of young Australians to a country it knew was likely to
>execute them, rather than arresting them when they arrived home.

>The most emotional response centred on Scott Rush, 20, a drug mule who
>was jailed for life. His family, through lawyer Bob Myers, vainly asked
>the AFP to warn Rush of their interest before he left Australia.

>"No Australian public servant has the right to expose any Australian
>citizen to the death penalty," Myers told Australian Story.

>Rush and fellow mules Renae Lawrence, Martin Stephens and Michael
>Czugaj took the AFP to the Federal Court, claiming it had acted
>illegally by exposing them to the death penalty.

>While a large part of public opinion agreed, the court dismissed the
>action.

>The Government has also sidestepped criticism, pointing out that while
>the relevant treaty with Indonesia contains a clause allowing the
>Attorney-General to refuse to provide evidence if an Australian was
>charged with an offence carrying the death penalty, the AFP was free to
>do as it thought best until charges were laid.

>By the time the Bali Nine were formally charged, all the damaging
>evidence had been gathered.

>Phelan is unrepentant: "Basically all transit countries through which
>drugs come to Australia have the death penalty. The AFP cannot pick and
>choose who it chooses to cooperate with."

>International teamwork in the past few years has significantly reduced
>the flow of drugs into Australia. The most recent Australian Crime
>Commission figures, for 2003-04, show the lowest seizures of heroin for
>a decade.

>Refusal to co-operate abroad would outrage regional governments and
>threaten mutual action against other drug syndicates and terrorism.

>Public opinion in Southeast Asia also strongly favours the death
>penalty for traffickers, with polls in Singapore and Thailand showing
>support of up to 80 per cent.

>In Australia, opinion is more confused. A Morgan poll in November found
>that while only 27 per cent of Australians favoured the death penalty
>for murder, 57 per cent believed drug traffickers caught in Asia should
>die.

>Yet in the specific case of Van Nguyen, opinion was evenly divided.

>In The Australian, a newspoll found that more than 50 per cent of
>Australians favoured the death sentence for people convicted of major
>acts of terrorism.

>Howard now has to weigh all these conflicting factors in framing
>Canberra's approach to the executions of Chan and Sukumaran. He has
>said publicly he has no sympathy for the two men but will vigorously
>pursue Australia's long-standing opposition to the death penalty.

>How that is carried out will test Australian diplomacy.

>Apart from the risks to a fragile relationship, observers have pointed
>out that any blunt approach will almost certainly stiffen backs in
>Jakarta and end any chance of clemency.

>Hopes of saving Chan and Sukumaran now rest with Indonesia's
>inconsistent record in carrying out executions, the fact that in recent
>times only three of the more than 85 prisoners on death row have been
>shot, and the lengthy legal road still to be travelled.

>It may be years before their case moves through the Denpasar provincial
>High Court and the two reviews possible through the Supreme Court in
>Jakarta.

>And though President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono has said he will never
>grant clemency to drug traffickers, time and quiet diplomacy may change
>his mind.

>Death penalty Australia's double dilemma 
>
>18.02.06
>By Greg Ansley



From Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:53:20 EDT 2007
Article: 530273 of soc.culture.canada
Xref: sn-us alt.abortion:826153 can.general:342671 wpg.general:241787 winnipeg.general:33485 alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic:1277961 soc.culture.canada:530273
Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-04!sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-01!sn-xt-sjc-11!sn-xt-sjc-01!sn-xt-sjc-13!supernews.com!newshub.sdsu.edu!elnk-nf2-pas!elnk-pas-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2so!shaw.ca!pd7tw3no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail
X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.149.230.220
From: Asterix 
Newsgroups: alt.abortion,can.general,wpg.general,winnipeg.general,alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic,soc.culture.canada
Subject: Re: 103,768 Canadian Babies Killed in 2003 - Extra Million$ for ZYD Abortionists
Reply-To: Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com
Message-ID: <3m4a421tkshle7gntg2p3jj61cv49kme24@4ax.com>
References:  <0f4n125o9f8vddltecpafv8448sc9ok50i@4ax.com>  
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Lines: 46
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 16:22:34 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176
X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca
X-Trace: pd7tw3no 1145377354 64.59.135.176 (Tue, 18 Apr 2006 10:22:34 MDT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 10:22:34 MDT
Organization: Shaw Residential Internet

Actually, the key point should be the $40,000,000 paid to the ZYD
abortionists, for killing all these babies!!

At a payment of at least $400 per baby, usually paid by the
taxcpayers, this is a lot of money for legal murders!!

If the feminazis want to PAY for killing their own babies, that is
their choice, but taxpayers SHOULD NOT be paying for these abortions.


On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 11:52:45 GMT, "Ph˙ltręss"  wrote:
>[posted and mailed]
>
>"J Young"  blew me away with
>news:pc-dnQnC2K09CobZnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@giganews.com: 
>>  wrote in message
>> news:0f4n125o9f8vddltecpafv8448sc9ok50i@4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 22:10:29 -0500, "J Young" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >The numbers are staggering, the horror is beyond discription.
>>> >
>>> Ahh, so that's how you feel about a woman getting to make a choice.
>> 
>> 
>> Even the most liberal of loons ( and there are plenty in these ng's )
>> must recoil in astonishment by the amount of blood shed in the name of
>> 'free choice'.

>J, the only horror beyond description is your fucked up sewer of a 
>misogynistic mind.  It's none of your business how many women reject 
>maternity, or why they determine reproduction to be inappropriate; their 
>lifestyes are none of your fucking business either.  So take your whiney 
>xtian "guilt" and shove it straight up your meddling ass, you 
>sanctimonious mendacious CUNT! How many unwanted, living babies have YOU 
>adopted, shithead? 
>This isn't about embryos, as your pompous whining make very clear, it's 
>about enslaving the bodies of women to your fairy tale-based agenda. 
>You are that transparent. You, and the xtian Taliban can ban abortion, 
>ban contraception, and make pregnancy compulsory, just like the 4th 
>century you long for, with all the females knowing their "place" as brood 
>sows. They won't need much education, and we can stop them taking jobs 
>away from the men, right, fascist pig?  
>Fuck you, you lying little monster. If women aren't free to control their 
>bodies, NOBODY is free.



From Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:53:20 EDT 2007
Article: 530274 of soc.culture.canada
Xref: sn-us alt.personals.edmonton:10464 alt.personals.calgary:10237 ab.general:109223 ab.politics:249209 can.general:342672 soc.culture.canada:530274
Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-03!sn-xt-sjc-12!sn-xt-sjc-09!sn-xt-sjc-05!supernews.com!207.217.77.43.MISMATCH!elnk-pas-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2so!shaw.ca!pd7tw2no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail
X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.149.230.220
From: Asterix 
Newsgroups: alt.personals.edmonton,alt.personals.calgary,ab.general,ab.politics,can.general,soc.culture.canada
Subject: Re: Families DO NOT Want Liberal Child Care Program
Reply-To: Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com
Message-ID: <815a42t0n27q113pdeeha1o5ajcmpsp9l1@4ax.com>
References: <1142987920.017841.29140@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Lines: 65
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 16:29:14 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176
X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca
X-Trace: pd7tw2no 1145377754 64.59.135.176 (Tue, 18 Apr 2006 10:29:14 MDT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 10:29:14 MDT
Organization: Shaw Residential Internet

The commies and lesbians supporting the Y may want the communist type
family day care scams proposed by the socialist lieberals, but normal
families most certainly DO NOT want the scam.

If the government wants to give the PARENTS $100 a month, for the
parent to use towards whatever form of child care the parent wants,
rather than the institutionalised daycares of communism, then as
Martha Stewart would say, That is a good thing!

There already is too much government interference in families, and
this may be a step in the right direction, allowing parents to choose
where they wish to start the education of their chioldren.


On 21 Mar 2006 16:38:40 -0800, "jlipka81@aol.com" 
wrote:

>Canadian families, irrespective of where they live or the size of their
>communities, want their child care needs met by a nationally-funded
>public system and not a federal cash payout, according to a recent
>report by YWCA Canada.
>
>The report's findings are based on four community task forces held
>over the past year in four distinct communities across Canada: Halifax,
>Vancouver, Martensville, Saskatchewan, and Cambridge, Ontario.
>
>In each task force, parents, service providers and business people
>consistently said that they wanted integrated services that are
>publicly and fairly funded so that they could meet the demands of
>parents in their communities.
>
>The Conservatives are planning to scrap childcare agreements signed by
>the Liberal government and the provinces to develop a National Early
>Learning and Child Care Program. Instead, they will provide parents
>with direct payments of $1,200 a year per child.
>
>But as YWCA study director Jenny Robinson points out, the
>Conservatives' payment would amount to only $8 a week for a
>middle-income family once it is taxed - a sum that will come nowhere
>close to meeting basic child care needs. In addition, the study also
>finds that even if parents have money to buy child care services, there
>is still a shortage of services to buy.
>
>Prime Minister Stephen Harper plans to deal with this shortage by
>offering a one-time credit of $10,000 for businesses and community
>groups to create 125,000 new daycare spaces.
>
>However, 85 per cent of the costs of a child care space are operational
>costs. The Conservative plan offers nothing to keep that space going.
>Moreover, the YWCA report indicates that although tax cuts have been
>offered in some provincial jurisdictions, they have not resulted in any
>new child care spaces.
>
>Canadians want a plan that will guarantee every child - regardless of
>parental income or geography - will get a quality, affordable and
>accessible space offered by a licensed professional. Parents and
>caregivers understand, as we do, that a cash payout is not the answer
>to the country's very real need for child care.
>
>A national child care program like that envisioned in the YWCA report
>is not beyond our means. The Liberal Party has made it a priority to
>ensure the Conservative government honours the 10 multi-year child care
>deals already reached with the provinces. Canadian families deserve
>nothing less.



From Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:53:21 EDT 2007
Article: 530368 of soc.culture.canada
Xref: sn-us can.general:342943 can.politics:1303242 ab.general:109226 calgary.general:349564 ab.politics:249249 soc.culture.canada:530368
Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-03!sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-02!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-09!sn-xt-sjc-13!supernews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2so!shaw.ca!pd7tw1no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail
X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.149.230.220
From: Asterix 
Newsgroups: can.general,can.politics,ab.general,calgary.general,ab.politics,soc.culture.canada
Subject: Re: Edmonton / Calgary Homeless Problem Soars Despite Oil Boom
Reply-To: Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com
Message-ID: <6moc42d1gipa1o0l4jrfk26h93k3ldtm82@4ax.com>
References:    
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Lines: 20
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 16:17:49 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176
X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca
X-Trace: pd7tw1no 1145463469 64.59.135.176 (Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:17:49 MDT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:17:49 MDT
Organization: Shaw Residential Internet

On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 20:56:23 GMT, "Chom Noamsky"  wrote:

>"Asterix"  wrote in message 
>news:iida42pf9pvpt5s5q0d5kid3mp7onrtflu@4ax.com...
>> With all the jobs going begging, there is no need whatsoever for an
>> able-bodied person to be unemployed, unless they wish to be so.
>
>Yeah but most homeless people are unemployable to start with.  That's how 
>they get where they get.  Addiction problems, mental health issues, etc, 
>they need serious treatment and councelling before they can get back to 
>employable status.  Most employers don't have patience for unreliable drunks 
>and potheads. 

For such undesirable flotsam and jetsam, surely some form of
concentration camps, where they can subsist or perish, would be the
appropriate Darwinian answer?

If they are of no use to humanity in general, or even themselves, then
let them perish!



From Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:53:21 EDT 2007
Article: 530419 of soc.culture.canada
Xref: sn-us soc.culture.australian:386601 can.general:343060 can.politics:1303502 ab.general:109246 soc.culture.canada:530419 soc.culture.palestine:514881
Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-02!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-09!sn-xt-sjc-05!supernews.com!207.217.77.43.MISMATCH!elnk-pas-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2so!shaw.ca!pd7tw2no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail
X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.149.230.220
From: Asterix 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian,can.general,can.politics,ab.general,soc.culture.canada,soc.culture.palestine
Subject: Re: Muslim Free Press launched in Canada 
Reply-To: Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com
Message-ID: 
References: 
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Lines: 49
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 01:35:12 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176
X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca
X-Trace: pd7tw2no 1145496912 64.59.135.176 (Wed, 19 Apr 2006 19:35:12 MDT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 19:35:12 MDT
Organization: Shaw Residential Internet

Hopefully it will get distributed in Edmonton?
Just put a pile on a bus, and have someone pick up from Greyhound,
please.

On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 09:01:35 -0400, "Islam Will Replace Collapsing
Amerikan Empire"  wrote:

>Muslim Free Press launched in Canada
>4/18/2006 6:20:00 PM GMT
>
>The Islamic Supreme Council of Canada launched a new national newspaper that 
>would be distributed in four major Canadian cities, CBS News reported.
>
>The Muslim Free Press was officially launched in Toronto on Saturday. It 
>will be distributed in Montreal, Toronto, Calgary and Vancouver.
>
>Published in English and French, the newspaper will cover topics ranging 
>from Canadian and international news, to politics and health issues from an 
>Islamic perspective.
>
>The Calgary-based Islamic Supreme Council is a national group that promotes 
>understanding of the Islamic religion and tackles issues affecting the 
>Muslim community in Canada.
>
>The council said the introduction of the newspaper was partially due to the 
>international uproar over the publication of the offensive cartoons of 
>Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) in some Western newspapers, including the Western 
>Standard and the Jewish Free Press in Canada.
>
>Syed Soharwardy, council president as well as publisher and chief executive 
>officer of the newspaper, said that the cartoon controversy showed a growing 
>misunderstanding between Muslims and non-Muslims.
>
>"Canadian Muslims were not as forthcoming to understand the Canadian values 
>of freedom of the press and freedom of religion," Soharwardy said.
>
>On the other hand, "mainstream Canadians were not able to understand why 
>Muslims [were] protesting," he said.
>
>Soharwardy said he hopes the new paper will help bridge the gap in 
>understanding and create interfaith dialogue. For example, he said, the 
>paper's editorial board includes Christian and Hindu members.
>
>http://islamonline.com/cgi-bin/news_service/world_full_story.asp?service_id=2224
>
>
> 
>



From Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:53:21 EDT 2007
Article: 530478 of soc.culture.canada
Xref: sn-us can.politics:1303674 ab.general:109263 soc.culture.canada:530478 tor.general:314894
Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-02!sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-03!sn-xt-sjc-12!sn-xt-sjc-08!sn-xt-sjc-14!supernews.com!postnews.google.com!news3.google.com!newshub.sdsu.edu!router2.astraweb.com!news.astraweb.com!router1.astraweb.com!news.alt.net!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2so!shaw.ca!pd7tw2no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail
X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.149.230.220
From: Asterix 
Newsgroups: can.politics,ab.general,soc.culture.canada,tor.general
Subject: Re: EXTERMINATE MORE MURDERERS - Faster! Homolka & Bernardo Come to Mind!!
Reply-To: Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com
Message-ID: 
References: <6KO8DXNB38254.8216550926@anonymous.poster>  <20060420000959.47b3d804.campbell@neotext.ca>
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Lines: 20
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 14:32:05 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176
X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca
X-Trace: pd7tw2no 1145543525 64.59.135.176 (Thu, 20 Apr 2006 08:32:05 MDT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 08:32:05 MDT
Organization: Shaw Residential Internet

On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 06:10:00 GMT, Duncan Patton 
wrote:

>On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 19:38:14 -0600
>Chief Instigator  wrote:
>
>> 
>> >Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 17:02:06 GMT
>> 
>> >The sooner we rid ourselves of these subhuman creatures, the better!  Also, 
>
>Counciling suicide is sposed to be against the law.  But hey, go for it!
>Dhu

If, as you claim it is illegal, why wasn't Svend Robinson jailed for
his help with the suicide of a lady?

Or do charges only apply if you are NOT a commie supporter, or NOT a
fag?



From Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:53:21 EDT 2007
Article: 531186 of soc.culture.canada
Xref: sn-us rec.travel.usa-canada:303956 soc.culture.canada:531186 tor.general:316033
Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-02!sn-xt-sjc-12!sn-xt-sjc-09!sn-xt-sjc-05!supernews.com!207.217.77.43.MISMATCH!elnk-pas-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2so!shaw.ca!pd7tw2no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail
X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.149.230.220
From: Asterix 
Newsgroups: rec.travel.usa-canada,soc.culture.canada,tor.general,immigration.canada
Subject: Re: Visit ---> www.NotCanada.com
Reply-To: Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com
Message-ID: 
References: <1146068287.942777.222430@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Lines: 90
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 22:17:23 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176
X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca
X-Trace: pd7tw2no 1146089843 64.59.135.176 (Wed, 26 Apr 2006 16:17:23 MDT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 16:17:23 MDT
Organization: Shaw Residential Internet

On 26 Apr 2006 09:18:07 -0700, notcanada@notcanada.com wrote:

>Taken from:
>
>www.NotCanada.com
>
>TOP 8 REASONS NOT TO IMMIGRATE TO CANADA
>
> 8. Discriminatory and Dishonest Immigration System.
>Immigration to Canada is based on a point system, obtained with your
>education, qualifications and job experience. Points are good enough
>for immigration, but in Canada, they are not good enough to get a job
>in your field. Amazing, how the credentials that qualify you to come to
>Canada are the same credentials that don't qualify you for your
>profession in Canada. The reason is, Canada only wants immigrants to do
>the labor jobs - pizza delivery, driving taxis, factory work etc.

Actually, most of the professions DO NOT WANT COMPETITION, INCLUDING
LOWER PRICES, FROM QUALIFIED IMMIGRANTS!

That is why most professional groups in Canada will refuse to
recognise the credentials of professional groups outside Canada!!


> 7. Out Of Control Cost Of Living.
>>From rent, to utility bills, to shopping, to phone, internet and cable
>bills, to gas, to car insurance, to eating out, to basically anything
>you have to pay for or buy, the cost of living in Canada has become
>astronomical. Recent immigrants are astonished as to how expensive
>everything is. It is estimated that compared to most countries around
>the world, the cost of living in Canada is on average five times
>greater.

> 6. Health Care Crisis.
>Practicing physicians in Canada are in a shortage, 1 in 4 Canadians
>cannot get a family doctor. Canadian doctors are leaving to move
>permanently to the United States. Statistics Canada and the Canadian
>Medical Association both have identified that for every 1 American
>doctor that moves to Canada, 19 (nineteen) Canadian doctors move to the
>United States! Doctors in Canada are overworked and underpaid, and
>there is a cap on their salaries.

> 5. Very High Taxes.
>Yes, you have the GST, the PST, totaling 15%, on practically everything
>you purchase and many other taxes taken out of our weekly paycheck. You
>have to pay a whopping amount to the government, out of your hard
>earned salary, so that the government can turn around and give it to
>beer drinking, hockey watching welfare bums. Fair? It does not matter,
>it's Canada.

> 4. Money Hungry Government.
>Canadian Embassies around the world lie to foreigners, painting this
>picture that Canada is Utopia, because they want them to come to
>Canada. Why? Because foreigners bring money! So after being deceived,
>these foreigners come. They must bring with them at least $10,000.
>Canada has an immigration quota of 250,000 per year. So please do the
>math, 250,000 multiplied by $10,000 each equals a whopping 2.5 Billion
>dollars that Canada gains from immigrants every year.

> 3. No Culture.
>Unlike almost every other country in the world, Canada has no culture.
>Actually American culture is what dominates Canada. When was the last
>time you had some 'Canadian' food? There are no Canadian traditions and
>there is no national identity. What does it even mean to call yourself
>a 'Canadian'. . .nothing really. People living in Canada, still
>identify themselves with the country they 'originally' came from.

Canada does support with huge amounts of taxpayer cash, all the
gangsters and thugs involved in commercial sports, though!

> 2. Worst Weather.
>Yes, Canada has the worst weather conditions of any country in the
>world. Freezing cold temperatures, snow, ice, hail, winds, storms etc.
>>From the Prairie provinces to the Maritimes, from the Territories to
>southern Ontario, the weather is so horrific and disgusting that many
>Canadians leave Canada simply because of this reason alone.

> 1. No Jobs.
>Yes, coast to coast, there are no jobs. Immigrants are highly qualified
>(MD's, PhD's, Lawyers, Engineers etc.) but they are driving taxi cabs,
>delivering pizza's or working in factories. Even people with bachelors
>degrees from Canadian Universities cannot find jobs after graduation.
>This is the tragedy associated with immigration to Canada. I feel sorry
>for those immigrants who are stuck in Canada for the rest of their
>lives. It is indeed a very sad and hopeless future.
>
>Taken from:
>
>www.NotCanada.com


[Message republishing libel removed. See:
http://www.courts.gov.bc.ca/Jdb-txt/SC/08/08/2008BCSC0827.htm]

From Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:53:22 EDT 2007
Article: 531506 of soc.culture.canada
Xref: sn-us can.taxes:95723 can.general:344656 can.politics:1308526 ab.general:109356 soc.culture.canada:531506
Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-01!sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-04!sn-xt-sjc-11!sn-xt-sjc-07!sn-xt-sjc-05!supernews.com!207.217.77.43.MISMATCH!elnk-pas-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2so!shaw.ca!pd7tw3no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail
X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.149.230.220
From: Asterix 
Newsgroups: can.taxes,can.general,can.politics,ab.general,soc.culture.canada
Subject: Re: Canada Revenue Agency Meal Allowance Lawsuit Update
Reply-To: Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com
Message-ID: 
References: <8b49ba6a.0503071010.32b5b558@posting.google.com> <2d3eac1e.0503181216.3127c27f@posting.google.com>
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Lines: 106
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 17:55:06 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176
X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca
X-Trace: pd7tw3no 1146333306 64.59.135.176 (Sat, 29 Apr 2006 11:55:06 MDT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 11:55:06 MDT
Organization: Shaw Residential Internet

Alan, what is latest status of this matter?
Are snivel servants still ripping off taxpapyers, or will truckers now
be allowed same as crooked trough-feeders?


On 18 Mar 2005 12:16:44 -0800, alanbaggett1@canada.com (Alan Baggett)
wrote:

>Here's the latest from:

>http://pei.cbc.ca/regional/servlet/View?filename=pe-truck20050318


>Truckers fight for better meal deductions  
>Last Updated Mar 18 2005 11:24 AM AST
>CBC News 
>CHARLOTTETOWN – Some P.E.I. truckers have joined a class action
>lawsuit against the Canada Revenue Agency. They want to be able to
>claim more money for meals while they're on the road.

>Summerside's Chris Murphy spends two weeks at a time rolling across
>North America in his truck, paying for three meals a day in roadside
>restaurants.
>
>He said when government employees are traveling they are paid up to
>$75 a day as compensation for their meals and related expenses.
>
>However, truckers are allowed to claim a maximum of $23 a day as a
>business expense. Murphy believes the numbers should be the same.
>
>The court case was filed in British Columbia Supreme Court in 2002.
>
>Ernie Slump, the publisher of Trucker Magazine launched the suit.
>Since then, he has added the names of 3,000 truckers to the case.
>
>He believes the federal government is trying to delay the case.
>
>"We thought we might go to court in April or May, but we think now
>that the government may drag it out further until after the next
>election because this could very well become an election issue."
>
>Murphy said he just wants the same provisions as other people who have
>to leave home for work.
>
>The federal Department of Finance won't say if deductions for meals on
>the road might be raised.
>
>
>
>canadarevenueagency@hotmail.com (Alan Baggett) wrote in message news:<8b49ba6a.0503071010.32b5b558@posting.google.com>...
>> http://www.todaystrucking.com/displayarticle.cfm?ID=3824
>> 
>> Law firm files meal allowance suit 
>> 
>> SUMMERLAND, B.C. (Mar. 7, 2005) -- B.C. law firm Johnston, Johnson &
>> Co. has filed a class-action suit on behalf of 11 truck drivers
>> seeking to overturn the unfair meal allowance portion of the federal
>> tax policy.
>> The Summerland, B.C.-based lawyers are asking the Supreme Court of
>> British Columbia to strike down a section of the Income Tax Act
>> dealing with the deduction of their meals while they are on the road.
>> 
>> "Essentially, we looked at whether truckers, bus drivers, and other
>> workers that travel for a living could unite in one cause to get
>> parity with government workers," says Tom Johnston, lead counsel on
>> the case in a statement that appears on the firm's website.
>> "Government employees receive a meal allowance of $73.10 [an amount
>> that fluctuates on a quarterly basis according to the Consumer Price
>> Index] per day plus U.S. exchange (if they were traveling in the US),
>> without receipts."
>> 
>> In the Statement of Claim, it is asserted by the plaintiffs (the
>> truckers) that CCRA [formerly Revenue Canada] "through [its]
>> administrative policies, have ruled that some of the Plaintiffs and
>> some of the Class are not entitled to a meal allowance greater than
>> $16.50 before 2003, and, $22.50 after 2003, while other taxpayers
>> received more money for meals, including allowing some, the fair meal
>> allowance rate."
>> 
>> Further, the Plaintiffs claim that the decision to allow some
>> individuals to claim a greater amount than others is unfair and
>> discriminatory, and without adequate reason.
>> 
>> Johnston says he hopes for truckers to gain parity with federal civil
>> servants covered by the Treasury Board Secretariat Travel Directive.
>> "We're also seeking to strike down the 50 percent aspect of the rule,"
>> he says. "That applies to business meals, and in the case of our
>> clients, that's clearly not the case.
>> 
>> "In the civil servants' case, he or she is consuming meals for
>> sustenance, as are truck drivers. Allowing one group a more generous
>> allowance than others isn't fair. It's clearly a discriminatory
>> practice, and the Canadian Charter of Rights makes no room for
>> distinction between one class of citizens and another."
>> 
>> Drivers wishing to join the class action may still do so by contacting
>> Johnston & Johnson at their B.C. offices, or by visiting the website.
>> If the lawsuit is successful, only those registered and paid-up of the
>> class action may be able to claim retroactive meal allowances, the
>> firm says.
>> 
>> There is a $200 fee to join the class action. Those already in the
>> class action will need to pay an additional $100.00 to remain in the
>> lawsuit. For more information, see www.summerlandlawoffice.com or
>> call, 800-494-0442.



From Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:53:23 EDT 2007
Article: 531507 of soc.culture.canada
Xref: sn-us soc.culture.singapore:1300177 soc.culture.indonesia:404463 soc.culture.australian:387528 alt.activism.death-penalty:407821 soc.culture.canada:531507 soc.culture.europe:549478
Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-04!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-06!sn-xt-sjc-14!supernews.com!postnews.google.com!news3.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newscon06.news.prodigy.com!newscon02.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.net!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2so!shaw.ca!pd7tw2no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail
X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.149.230.220
From: Asterix 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore,soc.culture.indonesia,soc.culture.australian,alt.activism.death-penalty,soc.culture.canada,soc.culture.europe
Subject: Re: 2 more Aussie Drug Traffickers to be Hanged - GOOD!
Reply-To: Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com
Message-ID: 
References: <1140230604.755199.42230@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Lines: 168
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 17:56:41 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176
X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca
X-Trace: pd7tw2no 1146333401 64.59.135.176 (Sat, 29 Apr 2006 11:56:41 MDT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 11:56:41 MDT
Organization: Shaw Residential Internet

At least the government of Indonesia know what to do with garbage
people, such as drug dealers.

They know, as do other sensible governments in the area, that an
executed criminal will never re-offend!!

Further, an executed waste of skin, will not cost the taxpayers for
the upkeep in some pampering prison system!!

If only the justice systems in North America would follow suit!!!


On 17 Feb 2006 18:43:24 -0800, "LifeManTalking" 
wrote:

>AUSTRALIA - Few Australians have much sympathy for Andrew Chan and
>Myuran Sukumaran, the two drug traffickers sentenced to death in Bali
>this week for their failed bid to smuggle more than 8kg of heroin on to
>the streets of Sydney.

>The lives of too many of their young people have been destroyed by
>drugs and, as innumerable letters to newspapers and callers to talkback
>radio have pointed out, Chan and Sukumaran could never have been in any
>doubt of the risk they took in running narcotics through Indonesia.

>But the prospect of the pair being taken from Kerobokan jail, tied to a
>tree in some lonely clearing, and shot by a paramilitary firing squad
>raises deep and disturbing moral, political and diplomatic dilemmas for
>a nation that last executed a criminal almost 40 years ago and now
>opposes the death penalty worldwide.

>Their own police provided the information that inevitably led to
>Tuesday's sentence. Their Government welcomed the death penalty given
>to the Bali bombers but opposes the same fate for Australian drug
>traffickers, and public opinion is repulsed by the prospect of
>executions at home but inconsistently accepts them abroad.

>It is a diplomatic minefield that Canberra traversed when
>Vietnamese-born Melburnian Van Tuong Nguyen was hanged in Singapore in
>December for taking heroin through Changi airport, despite Australian
>appeals for clemency.

>It is also a minefield that the nation will confront time and again:
>despite repeated warnings and the appalling reality of executions,
>there will always be people foolish enough to strap drugs to their
>bodies or conceal it in their luggage.

>Almost all will pass through Southeast Asia, the source of most of
>Australia's heroin (the Bali Nine consignment originated in Thailand)
>and where every country but Cambodia compulsorily hangs, shoots or
>lethally injects traffickers.

>Mike Phelan, the head of international operations for the Australian
>Federal Police and the man responsible for giving Indonesia the
>information it needed to arrest the Bali Nine, sees no end to the queue
>of couriers the trade calls "mules".

>"It continues to astound me that people attempt importations and move
>drugs through transit countries knowing that the death penalty exists,"
>he told ABC's Australian Story. "Many young lives get thrown away for
>the law of quick dollars."

>The AFP's role in the arrest of the Bali Nine is among the most
>sensitive of the issues facing Prime Minister John Howard, who has
>already weathered a barrage of criticism that has extended even into
>his own party room.

>The AFP caught the first whispers of a major heroin importing run in
>February last year and, in April, asked the Indonesian police to help
>uncover the members of the syndicate and the source of their supplies.

>Between them, the two forces discovered most of the names and built a
>remarkably accurate picture of their operation, including details of a
>previous successful run and another aborted attempt.

>This co-operation has become increasingly commonplace, spurred by the
>determination of all countries in the region to attack drug trafficking
>and terrorism. Intelligence swapping is required under a number of
>treaties.

>"We make no secret of the fact that the AFP has a policy of forward
>engagement where we want to stop the crimes at the source and (prevent
>them) from reaching Australian shores," Phelan said. "That's a practice
>we will continue to operate within."

>What worries many Australians is the fact that the AFP in effect turned
>over a group of young Australians to a country it knew was likely to
>execute them, rather than arresting them when they arrived home.

>The most emotional response centred on Scott Rush, 20, a drug mule who
>was jailed for life. His family, through lawyer Bob Myers, vainly asked
>the AFP to warn Rush of their interest before he left Australia.

>"No Australian public servant has the right to expose any Australian
>citizen to the death penalty," Myers told Australian Story.

>Rush and fellow mules Renae Lawrence, Martin Stephens and Michael
>Czugaj took the AFP to the Federal Court, claiming it had acted
>illegally by exposing them to the death penalty.

>While a large part of public opinion agreed, the court dismissed the
>action.

>The Government has also sidestepped criticism, pointing out that while
>the relevant treaty with Indonesia contains a clause allowing the
>Attorney-General to refuse to provide evidence if an Australian was
>charged with an offence carrying the death penalty, the AFP was free to
>do as it thought best until charges were laid.

>By the time the Bali Nine were formally charged, all the damaging
>evidence had been gathered.

>Phelan is unrepentant: "Basically all transit countries through which
>drugs come to Australia have the death penalty. The AFP cannot pick and
>choose who it chooses to cooperate with."

>International teamwork in the past few years has significantly reduced
>the flow of drugs into Australia. The most recent Australian Crime
>Commission figures, for 2003-04, show the lowest seizures of heroin for
>a decade.

>Refusal to co-operate abroad would outrage regional governments and
>threaten mutual action against other drug syndicates and terrorism.

>Public opinion in Southeast Asia also strongly favours the death
>penalty for traffickers, with polls in Singapore and Thailand showing
>support of up to 80 per cent.

>In Australia, opinion is more confused. A Morgan poll in November found
>that while only 27 per cent of Australians favoured the death penalty
>for murder, 57 per cent believed drug traffickers caught in Asia should
>die.

>Yet in the specific case of Van Nguyen, opinion was evenly divided.

>In The Australian, a newspoll found that more than 50 per cent of
>Australians favoured the death sentence for people convicted of major
>acts of terrorism.

>Howard now has to weigh all these conflicting factors in framing
>Canberra's approach to the executions of Chan and Sukumaran. He has
>said publicly he has no sympathy for the two men but will vigorously
>pursue Australia's long-standing opposition to the death penalty.

>How that is carried out will test Australian diplomacy.

>Apart from the risks to a fragile relationship, observers have pointed
>out that any blunt approach will almost certainly stiffen backs in
>Jakarta and end any chance of clemency.

>Hopes of saving Chan and Sukumaran now rest with Indonesia's
>inconsistent record in carrying out executions, the fact that in recent
>times only three of the more than 85 prisoners on death row have been
>shot, and the lengthy legal road still to be travelled.

>It may be years before their case moves through the Denpasar provincial
>High Court and the two reviews possible through the Supreme Court in
>Jakarta.

>And though President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono has said he will never
>grant clemency to drug traffickers, time and quiet diplomacy may change
>his mind.

>Death penalty Australia's double dilemma 
>
>18.02.06
>By Greg Ansley



From Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:53:23 EDT 2007
Article: 531508 of soc.culture.canada
Xref: sn-us alt.abortion:829451 can.general:344657 wpg.general:242639 winnipeg.general:33561 alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic:1281988 soc.culture.canada:531508
Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-02!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-09!sn-xt-sjc-05!supernews.com!207.217.77.43.MISMATCH!elnk-pas-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2so!shaw.ca!pd7tw3no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail
X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.149.230.220
From: Asterix 
Newsgroups: alt.abortion,can.general,wpg.general,winnipeg.general,alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic,soc.culture.canada
Subject: Re: 103,768 Canadian Babies Killed in 2003 - Extra Million$ for ZYD Abortionists
Reply-To: Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com
Message-ID: <1da752tdighlv85elqcgied410sth0uc8r@4ax.com>
References:  <0f4n125o9f8vddltecpafv8448sc9ok50i@4ax.com>  
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Lines: 46
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 17:57:55 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176
X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca
X-Trace: pd7tw3no 1146333475 64.59.135.176 (Sat, 29 Apr 2006 11:57:55 MDT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 11:57:55 MDT
Organization: Shaw Residential Internet

Actually, the key point should be the $40,000,000 paid to the ZYD
abortionists, for killing all these babies!!

At a payment of at least $400 per baby, usually paid by the
taxcpayers, this is a lot of money for legal murders!!

If the feminazis want to PAY for killing their own babies, that is
their choice, but taxpayers SHOULD NOT be paying for these abortions.


On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 11:52:45 GMT, "Ph˙ltręss"  wrote:
>[posted and mailed]
>
>"J Young"  blew me away with
>news:pc-dnQnC2K09CobZnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@giganews.com: 
>>  wrote in message
>> news:0f4n125o9f8vddltecpafv8448sc9ok50i@4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 22:10:29 -0500, "J Young" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >The numbers are staggering, the horror is beyond discription.
>>> >
>>> Ahh, so that's how you feel about a woman getting to make a choice.
>> 
>> 
>> Even the most liberal of loons ( and there are plenty in these ng's )
>> must recoil in astonishment by the amount of blood shed in the name of
>> 'free choice'.

>J, the only horror beyond description is your fucked up sewer of a 
>misogynistic mind.  It's none of your business how many women reject 
>maternity, or why they determine reproduction to be inappropriate; their 
>lifestyes are none of your fucking business either.  So take your whiney 
>xtian "guilt" and shove it straight up your meddling ass, you 
>sanctimonious mendacious CUNT! How many unwanted, living babies have YOU 
>adopted, shithead? 
>This isn't about embryos, as your pompous whining make very clear, it's 
>about enslaving the bodies of women to your fairy tale-based agenda. 
>You are that transparent. You, and the xtian Taliban can ban abortion, 
>ban contraception, and make pregnancy compulsory, just like the 4th 
>century you long for, with all the females knowing their "place" as brood 
>sows. They won't need much education, and we can stop them taking jobs 
>away from the men, right, fascist pig?  
>Fuck you, you lying little monster. If women aren't free to control their 
>bodies, NOBODY is free.



From Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:53:23 EDT 2007
Article: 531509 of soc.culture.canada
Xref: sn-us alt.personals.edmonton:10498 alt.personals.calgary:10280 ab.general:109357 ab.politics:249586 can.general:344658 soc.culture.canada:531509
Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-02!sn-xt-sjc-12!sn-xt-sjc-08!sn-xt-sjc-14!supernews.com!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2so!shaw.ca!pd7tw1no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail
X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.149.230.220
From: Asterix 
Newsgroups: alt.personals.edmonton,alt.personals.calgary,ab.general,ab.politics,can.general,soc.culture.canada
Subject: Re: Families DO NOT Want Liberal Child Care Program
Reply-To: Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com
Message-ID: 
References: <1142987920.017841.29140@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Lines: 65
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 17:58:07 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176
X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca
X-Trace: pd7tw1no 1146333487 64.59.135.176 (Sat, 29 Apr 2006 11:58:07 MDT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 11:58:07 MDT
Organization: Shaw Residential Internet

The commies and lesbians supporting the Y may want the communist type
family day care scams proposed by the socialist lieberals, but normal
families most certainly DO NOT want the scam.

If the government wants to give the PARENTS $100 a month, for the
parent to use towards whatever form of child care the parent wants,
rather than the institutionalised daycares of communism, then as
Martha Stewart would say, That is a good thing!

There already is too much government interference in families, and
this may be a step in the right direction, allowing parents to choose
where they wish to start the education of their chioldren.


On 21 Mar 2006 16:38:40 -0800, "jlipka81@aol.com" 
wrote:

>Canadian families, irrespective of where they live or the size of their
>communities, want their child care needs met by a nationally-funded
>public system and not a federal cash payout, according to a recent
>report by YWCA Canada.
>
>The report's findings are based on four community task forces held
>over the past year in four distinct communities across Canada: Halifax,
>Vancouver, Martensville, Saskatchewan, and Cambridge, Ontario.
>
>In each task force, parents, service providers and business people
>consistently said that they wanted integrated services that are
>publicly and fairly funded so that they could meet the demands of
>parents in their communities.
>
>The Conservatives are planning to scrap childcare agreements signed by
>the Liberal government and the provinces to develop a National Early
>Learning and Child Care Program. Instead, they will provide parents
>with direct payments of $1,200 a year per child.
>
>But as YWCA study director Jenny Robinson points out, the
>Conservatives' payment would amount to only $8 a week for a
>middle-income family once it is taxed - a sum that will come nowhere
>close to meeting basic child care needs. In addition, the study also
>finds that even if parents have money to buy child care services, there
>is still a shortage of services to buy.
>
>Prime Minister Stephen Harper plans to deal with this shortage by
>offering a one-time credit of $10,000 for businesses and community
>groups to create 125,000 new daycare spaces.
>
>However, 85 per cent of the costs of a child care space are operational
>costs. The Conservative plan offers nothing to keep that space going.
>Moreover, the YWCA report indicates that although tax cuts have been
>offered in some provincial jurisdictions, they have not resulted in any
>new child care spaces.
>
>Canadians want a plan that will guarantee every child - regardless of
>parental income or geography - will get a quality, affordable and
>accessible space offered by a licensed professional. Parents and
>caregivers understand, as we do, that a cash payout is not the answer
>to the country's very real need for child care.
>
>A national child care program like that envisioned in the YWCA report
>is not beyond our means. The Liberal Party has made it a priority to
>ensure the Conservative government honours the 10 multi-year child care
>deals already reached with the provinces. Canadian families deserve
>nothing less.

[Message republishing libel removed. See:
http://www.courts.gov.bc.ca/Jdb-txt/SC/08/08/2008BCSC0827.htm]

From Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 23:20:50 EDT 2007
Article: 547014 of soc.culture.europe
Xref: sn-us soc.culture.europe:547014
Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-03!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-09!sn-xt-sjc-05!supernews.com!newsfeed.news2me.com!peer01.west.cox.net!cox.net!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2so!shaw.ca!pd7tw3no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail
X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.149.230.220
From: Asterix 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe
Subject: Tips On Visiting Ukraine
Reply-To: Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com
Message-ID: <069832h0bltkr3f9s84mkl8e66b6c6hu2s@4ax.com>
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Lines: 9
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 20:13:00 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176
X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca
X-Trace: pd7tw3no 1144267980 64.59.135.176 (Wed, 05 Apr 2006 14:13:00 MDT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 14:13:00 MDT
Organization: Shaw Residential Internet

Tips are invited from those who have recently visited Ukraine, having
Euro passport.
What are gifts most welcomed by ladies?
What are costs for penzione or similar, in Kiev?
What are the risks for foreigners?
What are good local inexpensive meals?
Any special deals to get there from Canada?

All advice will be appreciated.


From Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 23:20:51 EDT 2007
Article: 547902 of soc.culture.europe
Xref: sn-us uk.politics.misc:1699929 soc.culture.israel:1367781 soc.culture.jewish:1582448 soc.culture.europe:547902 soc.culture.ukrainian:130353 soc.culture.polish:709406 soc.culture.palestine:514125
Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-04!sn-xt-sjc-12!sn-xt-sjc-08!sn-xt-sjc-13!supernews.com!newshub.sdsu.edu!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2so!shaw.ca!pd7tw2no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail
X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.149.230.220
From: Asterix 
Newsgroups: uk.politics.misc,soc.culture.israel,soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.ukrainian,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.palestine
Subject: Re:  Selling Slave-Sex in Israel- Filthy ZHIDS - Repost
Reply-To: Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com
Message-ID: 
References: <1133135553.816046.19600@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1133137187.811531.115820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Lines: 163
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 14:05:05 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176
X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca
X-Trace: pd7tw2no 1145023505 64.59.135.176 (Fri, 14 Apr 2006 08:05:05 MDT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 08:05:05 MDT
Organization: Shaw Residential Internet

On 27 Nov 2005 16:19:47 -0800, "Ariadne" wrote:
>Jason P wrote:
>> By Paula Amann
>>
>> Washington Jewish Week/Jewsweek - 2001
>>
>> http://www.jewsweek.com/society/059.htm
>>
>> They come to Israel from the Ukraine, Russia, and Moldova looking for
>> freedom. Instead they are sold as sex slaves. And you thought Israel
>> was holy.
>>
>> Jewsweek.com | Their names are Natalya, Oxana or Svetlana. They come to
>> Israel, as immigrants do, for a better life. But their dreams of
>> working as a waitress, nurse, or au pair turn nightmarish upon their
>> arrival.
>>
>> Their fellow countryman who met them at the airport, speaking the
>> language of home, takes them to a locked apartment with barred windows
>> and a phone that only takes incoming calls, where they are forced to
>> provide sexual services to strangers.
>>
>> Those who rebel risk being raped, beaten, or starved. Even those who
>> knew they were going into prostitution are shocked by the stark
>> conditions, the pay of roughly 20 shekalim ($5) a day or less for their
>> labor.
>>
>> This disturbing story unfolds all too often at the hotline for Migrant
>> Workers, a Tel Aviv agency founded in 1998 to protect the human rights
>> of foreign workers, victims of sex trafficking among them. The hotline
>> takes as its motto the familiar line from Exodus 22:20: "You shall not
>> wrong a stranger or oppress him, for you were strangers in the land of
>> Egypt."
>>
>> Agency director and co-founder Sigal Rozen, along with the group's
>> counsel, Nomi Levenkron, were in Washington, D.C., last week to give a
>> lecture at the Johns Hopkins Nitze School of Advanced International
>> Studies, to network and to speak with supporters. Among them are the
>> New Israel Fund, which has given the hotline a total of $19,000 during
>> the past year and a half.
>>
>> In an interview, Rozen called sex trafficking an "unorganized crime,"
>> based largely on personal networks of immigrants from the Ukraine,
>> Russia, and Moldova.
>>
>> "... "It's easier being a trafficker than being a plumber ..."   --Nomi
>> Levenkron
>>
>> Those three countries alone accounted for 91 percent of the 474 women
>> arrested in brothels and deported from Israel in 2000, according to
>> figures compiled by hotline volunteers during visits to the Neveh
>> Tirzah women's prison.
>>
>> These statistics represent only a fraction of the problem. Police
>> spokespersons have set the number of women brought into the country to
>> work in the sex industry at 2,000-3,000 annually, the number of
>> brothels at 250, Rozen said.
>>
>> "It's Misha that knows Sasha that knows Vladimir," added Levenkron,
>> noting the economic incentive to be a pimp or work with one. "It's
>> easier being a trafficker than being a plumber."
>>
>> One day she got a phone call from a rape crisis center where a woman
>> pleaded to be arrested and deported.
>>
>> This young Moldovian had twice tried to escape her pimp and at 18, was
>> burned out on prostitution and just wanted to go home.
>>
>> "She's so young and sweet," reflected Levenkron. "She came to Israel to
>> be a waitress."
>>
>> A year ago this month, Israel passed the Law Against Trafficking Women.
>> Before that time, other laws existed against soliciting, pimping, and
>> running brothels.
>>
>> Yet hotline staff point out that few pimps involved in trafficking ever
>> face a judge, with the majority of prostitutes deported without ever
>> facing a trial that might involve their testimony against their pimps.
>> Out of 459 women deported in 1998, only 35 cases went to trial; out of
>> 253 in 1999, a scant five ended up in the courtroom.
>>
>> Judicial indifference is compounded by police complicity, Levenkron
>> argued.
>>
>> The 18-year-old Moldovian, it turned out, had at one point in her
>> misadventures, found herself in a Tel Aviv police station where some of
>> the officers, who were her clients, recognized her and moved to call
>> her pimp.
>>
>> Overhearing their plans, the woman fled and moved in with a
>> client-turned-boyfriend.
>>
>> But somehow the pimp found her again, threatened the boyfriend. The
>> young woman, with no place to go, went back to the brothel. Now the
>> case hangs in the courts, where Levenkron has faint hopes for a
>> positive outcome.
>>
>> The police role in such trafficking ranges from casual to highly
>> serious, she alleged.
>>
>> "There are police who just come as clients, those who get special
>> discounts because of their good relationships with the owner of the
>> place and those that inform the owner about police operations,"
>> explained Levenkron.
>>
>> One young Beersheva prostitute told the attorney she was forced to work
>> seven days a week unless a police raid was expected.
>>
>> Widespread fear of violence from pimps has muted the public outcry, say
>> hotline staff. When Levenkron filed a suit on behalf of a
>> Beersheva-based woman, a 20-year-old Moldovian who had survived six
>> pimps and multiple rapes, several of the lawyer's friends came to her
>> home to bid her a final farewell, in anticipation of her imminent
>> death, she said.
>>
>> INTERNATIONAL PROBLEM
>>
>> Worldwide, trafficking in persons for domestic service, forced labor,
>> and prostitution ranks third after drugs and guns among the activities
>> of international crime, according to a congressional service report
>> released May 10, 2000. For comparison, about 50,000 people are brought
>> to the United States annually, the report stated.
>>
>> The rise in trafficking seen over the 1990s was fueled by feeble
>> economies in source countries, such as the former Soviet Union and
>> Southeast Asia, along with weak penalties for traffickers, said a
>> government official familiar with these issues.
>>
>> Last October, the United States passed its own law addressing this
>> problem, the Victims of Trafficking and Violence Protection Act, which
>> calls on the State Department to report annually on the scope of
>> trafficking in various countries and measures taken to combat it. The
>> report was due for release on June 1, but its publication has been
>> delayed.
>>
>> In Israel today, official policy on trafficking is to arrest and deport
>> foreign sex workers. The women are held for an average of 30 days under
>> crowded and sometimes harsh conditions, longer if they testify in court
>> against their pimps, according to hotline data.
>>
>> Rozen and Levenkron take issue with this approach. "Deporting women
>> doesn't make things better," said Levenkron. "I'm tired of shouting
>> this all over Israel so I've come here [to the United States] to shout
>> about it."
>>
>> Rozen contends that a one-year work permit in specified fields such as
>> home health care or child care, before their return home, would put the
>> former prostitutes in a stronger position to take care of themselves.
>>
>> Gruesome albeit unsubstantiated stories abound, she says, about revenge
>> attacks on returning women and their families by the original
>> trafficker in the home country.
>>
>> A nest egg from a year's legitimate work, Rozen suggests, would allow
>> victims to re-establish themselves in a new community and stay out of
>> the clutches of traffickers in the future.
>>
>> Meanwhile, Levenkron is seeking professional back-up in her job
>> representing the victims of trafficking.
>>
>> "I am the [hotline] legal department," laments Levenkron. "We need
>> lawyers and we need public awareness."



From Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 23:20:51 EDT 2007
Article: 547906 of soc.culture.europe
Xref: sn-us soc.culture.europe:547906 soc.culture.polish:709408
Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-03!sn-xt-sjc-12!sn-xt-sjc-08!sn-xt-sjc-14!supernews.com!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2so!shaw.ca!pd7tw2no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail
X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.149.230.220
From: Asterix 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.polish
Subject: Re: 51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis =KASTNER CASE+ WIESENTHAL! Repost
Reply-To: Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com
Message-ID: 
References:  <1100135687.p0A22pziB+tHsfUDIEEo+Q@teranews> 
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Lines: 345
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 14:46:20 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176
X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca
X-Trace: pd7tw2no 1145025980 64.59.135.176 (Fri, 14 Apr 2006 08:46:20 MDT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 08:46:20 MDT
Organization: Shaw Residential Internet

From: The Truth Seeker 
Newsgroups:
soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.palestine,
talk.politics.mideast,soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.israel
Subject: 51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 12:53:13 +0000 (UTC)

51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis.

By Lenni Brenner

Lenni Brenner has collated documents that relate to how the Zionist
movement collaborated with German Nazism and Italian Fascism. Given
the subsequent Holocaust against the Jews by the Nazis, many will be
surprised and appalled that a political movement, which supposedly
supported Jewish liberation, was prepared to collaborate with the most
anti-semitic of regimes.

Among the documents is the relatively well known and infamous ŚStern
Gang Proposalą in which the organisation of future Israeli PM Yitzhak
Shamir offers to join in WWII on Śthe side of the German Reichą. There
is also the embarrassing documents of the German Zionists who saw the
Nazis as fellow nationalists and were thus sympathetic to ŚGerman
national renewalą, the memoirs of an SS officer who stays in Palestine
as the guest of the Zionist movement for 6 months.

These acts of collaboration were not limited to the right wing fringe
of the Zionist movement but went to the heart of the Zionist Labour
establishment when the head of the Haganah, Feival Polkes, became a
willing paid informer of the Gestapo. He was even handled by one of
the architects of the Final Solution, Adolf Eichmann, who also
travelled to Palestine to liaise with the Zionists.

These shocking historical documents will make you realise that the
history of the political movement which founded the state of Israel is
not quite what it seems.

They also prove that Zionists will do *anything* to protect their
precious political movement, even if it means sacrificing several
million Jews in the process, then exploiting their suffering to secure
the greater goal of a Zionist State.

The Truth Seeker has spoken.


On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 11:08:04 -0700, Ken McVayAIDS/SOB
 wrote:
>Reply-To: "George" ,
>PRAWDA!
>
>On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:14:47 -0700, Heinrich Himmelfarb
> wrote:
>
>>The story documented below means that the KASTNER CASE was not an
>>isolated incident!!
>
>Now even Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to be a Nazi GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!
>
>
>>On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:25:52 GMT, c@c.cc wrote:
>>> 51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis  
>
>>>September 2004, page 86 
>
>>>Book Review
>
>>>51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis
>>>By Lenni Brenner, ed. Barricade Books, 2002, 342 pp. List: $22; AET:
>>>$15.
>
>>>Reviewed by Sara Powell
>>>It’s no secret that Zionism embraced political expediency to advance
>>>the cause of carving Eretz-Israel from the land of its native
>>>inhabitants. In his 1983 book, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators,
>>>Lenni Brenner shows that 20th century Zionists observed shockingly few
>>>limits to that expediency. Not surprisingly, the book received little
>>>coverage in the American media. Now, in 51 Documents, Brenner has
>>>compiled a wide variety of letters, statements, articles, and
>>>judgements—some of which appeared in his earlier book—by a broad array
>>>of activists and authors, that documents Zionist cooperration with the
>>>Nazis. On the face of it, the notion seems absurd. However, Brenner
>>>presents the case—made in many Zionists’ own words—that the Nazi
>>>agenda of expelling the Jews from Germany fit nicely with the Zionist
>>>plan for enticing those Jews into settling in Palestine and creating a
>>>new Jewish nation. 
>>>
>>>In addition to introductory and concluding chapters, the book is
>>>organized into five sections which lead the reader through early,
>>>pre-Zionist documents; pre-Holocaust ideological factions; the
>>>Holocaust era itself; and a chapter on the Stern Gang and the Nazis.
>>>Readers should note that a few documents are not indicative of
>>>collaboration in and of themselves, but provide the background to
>>>others written in response. These latter do indicate levels of
>>>collaboration between Zionists and fascists, both the Nazis in
>>>Germany, and those in Mussolini’s Italy. Brenner’s brief explanatory
>>>notes at the beginning of each document are helpful, as are the
>>>glossary and index.
>>>
>>>51 Documents assumes a certain knowledge of Zionist history, and
>>>requires a close reading and some deconstructive efforts on the part
>>>of the reader. Those willing to commit the time and effort, however,
>>>are rewarded with some stunning revelations. The reason some Zionists
>>>eschewed the boycott against Hitler’s Germany, for instance, is that
>>>they had a financial deal—Ha’avara—with Germany allowing Jews to
>>>exchange their wealth for goods to be exported to Palestine at less of
>>>a loss, as an incentive to emigrate. Those wondering why Zionists
>>>today are so organized and experienced in their public relations
>>>efforts discover that these battles have been fought before. Moreover,
>>>the section on Nazi and Zionist understandings of “nationality” versus
>>>citizenship reveals how German and Israeli practices are based on the
>>>same concept. 
>>>
>>>51 Documents also sheds a whole new light on the term “Holocaust
>>>guilt,” frequently understood to mean Western, non-Jewish guilt for
>>>not acting against the Holocaust earlier. However, these documents
>>>make it clear that Holocaust guilt began with those Zionists who made
>>>the undoubtedly difficult, but politically expedient choice to place
>>>Eretz-Israel at the top of their priorities, above the lives of their
>>>threatened European brethren.
>>>
>>>From a Zionist Executive Meeting speech by Yitzhak Gruenbaum on Feb.
>>>18, 1943:
>>>
>>>And when some asked me: “Can’t you give money from Keren Ha Yesod
>>>(Palestine Foundation Fund) to save Jews in the Diaspora?” I said:
>>>“No!” And again I say no....And, because of these things, people
>>>called me an anti-Semite, and concluded that I’m guilty, for the fact
>>>that we don’t give ourselves completely to rescue actions. (p. 211)
>>>
>>>However difficult it may be, the reader must confront some rather
>>>disturbing conclusions. The most unsettling realization for this
>>>reviewer is that pre-Holocaust Zionists were able to politically align
>>>themselves with the Nazis because both groups fundamentally saw race
>>>as an important dividing line—and, moreover, were determined to keep
>>>it that way. From Vladimir Jabotinsky to Albert Einstein,
>>>“assimilation” of Jews into the societies in which they lived was not
>>>an acceptable option. Rather, Jewish nationalism required equality on
>>>a national level, not a personal one. As Jabotinsky explained, “It is
>>>impossible for a man to become assimilated with people whose blood is
>>>different from his own” (p. 10); in Einstein’s words, “Palestine is
>>>first and foremost not a refuge for East European Jews, but the
>>>incarnation of a reawakening sense of national solidarity” (p. 29).
>>>Finally, David Yisraeli, a member of the Stern Gang, wrote the
>>>following in late 1940, as part of a proposal to Hitler. It was
>>>delivered in 1941 to two German diplomats in Lebanon.
>>>
>>>3. The establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and
>>>totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would be
>>>in the interest of a maintained and strengthened future German
>>>position of power in the Near East (p. 301).
>>>
>>>Such beliefs, of course, were not limited to Nazis and Zionists.
>>>Scientific and philosophical constructs of the day considered such
>>>differentiation legitimate, and ideas of racial difference—and,
>>>therefore, racial supremacy—were practiced around the world.
>>>
>>>Another disturbing conclusion a reader must inevitably face is that
>>>Zionists learned both tactical and political lessons from the Nazis
>>>and that, even today, these lessons are applied to further the Zionist
>>>cause. Although most likely known to potential readers of this book,
>>>another disturbing element is the cover-up of the less than savory
>>>roles of current Israeli leaders, including former prime ministers, in
>>>the terrorist Irgun and Stern Gang just before, during, and after the
>>>Holocaust. Likewise, the succumbing of various U.S. officials to
>>>Zionist pressure is a familiar, but distressing, story.
>>>
>>>51 Documents seems to represent a renewed attempt by Brenner to bring
>>>information regarding Zionist collaboration with the Nazis to U.S.
>>>supporters of Israel, as well as to Jews and Muslims, in order to
>>>expand dialogue with knowledge, and save lives—both Palestinian and
>>>Israeli—in the process. Readers of 51 Documents will find it difficult
>>>not to remove the rose colored glasses that so many seem to wear when
>>>examining Zionism.
>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
>is a revolutionary act." 
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages. 
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant
>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
>is a revolutionary act." 
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages. 
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant
>
>
>Posted by: 
>Patrick Lee Humphrey
>7500 Bellerive #1807
>Houston, Texas 77036-3040
>1-713-266-7764
>
>Steven Horn (KCOM)
>1836 NW 11th St
>Oklahoma City, OK 73106
>(405) 524-0576
>
>together with
>Boris Dynin  = NAMBLA executive & 
>Henry 
>CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even 
>VISIT me at:
>55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco  94132
>
>We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>
>
>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>office: VISIT at:
>#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>or call: 1-250-616-9431
>
>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
>called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
>should give an indication as to the why.
>
>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>
>Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked"?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>
>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
>to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>
>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late
>nights.
>
>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
>send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>work:(780)492-0473
>
>And also: George Firestone: "George" 
>
>Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!
>
>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com
>
>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>IHR - www.ihr.org
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
>
>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>
>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>
>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>
>In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>for many years around the world.
>
>Reply-To: "George" 
>
>_________________________________________
>Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server
>More than 140,000 groups
>Unlimited download
>http://www.usenetzone.com to open account



From Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 23:20:53 EDT 2007
Article: 548254 of soc.culture.europe
Xref: sn-us uk.politics.misc:1702233 soc.culture.israel:1369994 soc.culture.jewish:1583916 soc.culture.europe:548254 soc.culture.ukrainian:130369 soc.culture.polish:709932 soc.culture.palestine:514733
Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-03!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-06!sn-xt-sjc-13!supernews.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2so!shaw.ca!pd7tw3no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail
X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.149.230.220
From: Asterix 
Newsgroups: uk.politics.misc,soc.culture.israel,soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.ukrainian,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.palestine
Subject: Re:  Selling Slave-Sex in Israel- Filthy ZHIDS - Repost
Reply-To: Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com
Message-ID: 
References: <1133135553.816046.19600@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1133137187.811531.115820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Lines: 163
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 16:20:06 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176
X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca
X-Trace: pd7tw3no 1145377206 64.59.135.176 (Tue, 18 Apr 2006 10:20:06 MDT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 10:20:06 MDT
Organization: Shaw Residential Internet

On 27 Nov 2005 16:19:47 -0800, "Ariadne" wrote:
>Jason P wrote:
>> By Paula Amann
>>
>> Washington Jewish Week/Jewsweek - 2001
>>
>> http://www.jewsweek.com/society/059.htm
>>
>> They come to Israel from the Ukraine, Russia, and Moldova looking for
>> freedom. Instead they are sold as sex slaves. And you thought Israel
>> was holy.
>>
>> Jewsweek.com | Their names are Natalya, Oxana or Svetlana. They come to
>> Israel, as immigrants do, for a better life. But their dreams of
>> working as a waitress, nurse, or au pair turn nightmarish upon their
>> arrival.
>>
>> Their fellow countryman who met them at the airport, speaking the
>> language of home, takes them to a locked apartment with barred windows
>> and a phone that only takes incoming calls, where they are forced to
>> provide sexual services to strangers.
>>
>> Those who rebel risk being raped, beaten, or starved. Even those who
>> knew they were going into prostitution are shocked by the stark
>> conditions, the pay of roughly 20 shekalim ($5) a day or less for their
>> labor.
>>
>> This disturbing story unfolds all too often at the hotline for Migrant
>> Workers, a Tel Aviv agency founded in 1998 to protect the human rights
>> of foreign workers, victims of sex trafficking among them. The hotline
>> takes as its motto the familiar line from Exodus 22:20: "You shall not
>> wrong a stranger or oppress him, for you were strangers in the land of
>> Egypt."
>>
>> Agency director and co-founder Sigal Rozen, along with the group's
>> counsel, Nomi Levenkron, were in Washington, D.C., last week to give a
>> lecture at the Johns Hopkins Nitze School of Advanced International
>> Studies, to network and to speak with supporters. Among them are the
>> New Israel Fund, which has given the hotline a total of $19,000 during
>> the past year and a half.
>>
>> In an interview, Rozen called sex trafficking an "unorganized crime,"
>> based largely on personal networks of immigrants from the Ukraine,
>> Russia, and Moldova.
>>
>> "... "It's easier being a trafficker than being a plumber ..."   --Nomi
>> Levenkron
>>
>> Those three countries alone accounted for 91 percent of the 474 women
>> arrested in brothels and deported from Israel in 2000, according to
>> figures compiled by hotline volunteers during visits to the Neveh
>> Tirzah women's prison.
>>
>> These statistics represent only a fraction of the problem. Police
>> spokespersons have set the number of women brought into the country to
>> work in the sex industry at 2,000-3,000 annually, the number of
>> brothels at 250, Rozen said.
>>
>> "It's Misha that knows Sasha that knows Vladimir," added Levenkron,
>> noting the economic incentive to be a pimp or work with one. "It's
>> easier being a trafficker than being a plumber."
>>
>> One day she got a phone call from a rape crisis center where a woman
>> pleaded to be arrested and deported.
>>
>> This young Moldovian had twice tried to escape her pimp and at 18, was
>> burned out on prostitution and just wanted to go home.
>>
>> "She's so young and sweet," reflected Levenkron. "She came to Israel to
>> be a waitress."
>>
>> A year ago this month, Israel passed the Law Against Trafficking Women.
>> Before that time, other laws existed against soliciting, pimping, and
>> running brothels.
>>
>> Yet hotline staff point out that few pimps involved in trafficking ever
>> face a judge, with the majority of prostitutes deported without ever
>> facing a trial that might involve their testimony against their pimps.
>> Out of 459 women deported in 1998, only 35 cases went to trial; out of
>> 253 in 1999, a scant five ended up in the courtroom.
>>
>> Judicial indifference is compounded by police complicity, Levenkron
>> argued.
>>
>> The 18-year-old Moldovian, it turned out, had at one point in her
>> misadventures, found herself in a Tel Aviv police station where some of
>> the officers, who were her clients, recognized her and moved to call
>> her pimp.
>>
>> Overhearing their plans, the woman fled and moved in with a
>> client-turned-boyfriend.
>>
>> But somehow the pimp found her again, threatened the boyfriend. The
>> young woman, with no place to go, went back to the brothel. Now the
>> case hangs in the courts, where Levenkron has faint hopes for a
>> positive outcome.
>>
>> The police role in such trafficking ranges from casual to highly
>> serious, she alleged.
>>
>> "There are police who just come as clients, those who get special
>> discounts because of their good relationships with the owner of the
>> place and those that inform the owner about police operations,"
>> explained Levenkron.
>>
>> One young Beersheva prostitute told the attorney she was forced to work
>> seven days a week unless a police raid was expected.
>>
>> Widespread fear of violence from pimps has muted the public outcry, say
>> hotline staff. When Levenkron filed a suit on behalf of a
>> Beersheva-based woman, a 20-year-old Moldovian who had survived six
>> pimps and multiple rapes, several of the lawyer's friends came to her
>> home to bid her a final farewell, in anticipation of her imminent
>> death, she said.
>>
>> INTERNATIONAL PROBLEM
>>
>> Worldwide, trafficking in persons for domestic service, forced labor,
>> and prostitution ranks third after drugs and guns among the activities
>> of international crime, according to a congressional service report
>> released May 10, 2000. For comparison, about 50,000 people are brought
>> to the United States annually, the report stated.
>>
>> The rise in trafficking seen over the 1990s was fueled by feeble
>> economies in source countries, such as the former Soviet Union and
>> Southeast Asia, along with weak penalties for traffickers, said a
>> government official familiar with these issues.
>>
>> Last October, the United States passed its own law addressing this
>> problem, the Victims of Trafficking and Violence Protection Act, which
>> calls on the State Department to report annually on the scope of
>> trafficking in various countries and measures taken to combat it. The
>> report was due for release on June 1, but its publication has been
>> delayed.
>>
>> In Israel today, official policy on trafficking is to arrest and deport
>> foreign sex workers. The women are held for an average of 30 days under
>> crowded and sometimes harsh conditions, longer if they testify in court
>> against their pimps, according to hotline data.
>>
>> Rozen and Levenkron take issue with this approach. "Deporting women
>> doesn't make things better," said Levenkron. "I'm tired of shouting
>> this all over Israel so I've come here [to the United States] to shout
>> about it."
>>
>> Rozen contends that a one-year work permit in specified fields such as
>> home health care or child care, before their return home, would put the
>> former prostitutes in a stronger position to take care of themselves.
>>
>> Gruesome albeit unsubstantiated stories abound, she says, about revenge
>> attacks on returning women and their families by the original
>> trafficker in the home country.
>>
>> A nest egg from a year's legitimate work, Rozen suggests, would allow
>> victims to re-establish themselves in a new community and stay out of
>> the clutches of traffickers in the future.
>>
>> Meanwhile, Levenkron is seeking professional back-up in her job
>> representing the victims of trafficking.
>>
>> "I am the [hotline] legal department," laments Levenkron. "We need
>> lawyers and we need public awareness."



From Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 23:20:53 EDT 2007
Article: 548255 of soc.culture.europe
Xref: sn-us soc.culture.singapore:1296148 soc.culture.indonesia:403515 soc.culture.australian:386388 alt.activism.death-penalty:407352 soc.culture.canada:530272 soc.culture.europe:548255
Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-02!sn-xt-sjc-12!sn-xt-sjc-08!sn-xt-sjc-13!supernews.com!newshub.sdsu.edu!peer01.west.cox.net!cox.net!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2so!shaw.ca!pd7tw1no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail
X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.149.230.220
From: Asterix 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore,soc.culture.indonesia,soc.culture.australian,alt.activism.death-penalty,soc.culture.canada,soc.culture.europe
Subject: Re: 2 more Aussie Drug Traffickers to be Hanged - GOOD!
Reply-To: Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com
Message-ID: <6j4a42ds6kgtp3if0cmgia3astvdso8ho7@4ax.com>
References: <1140230604.755199.42230@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Lines: 168
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 16:20:59 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176
X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca
X-Trace: pd7tw1no 1145377259 64.59.135.176 (Tue, 18 Apr 2006 10:20:59 MDT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 10:20:59 MDT
Organization: Shaw Residential Internet

At least the government of Indonesia know what to do with garbage
people, such as drug dealers.

They know, as do other sensible governments in the area, that an
executed criminal will never re-offend!!

Further, an executed waste of skin, will not cost the taxpayers for
the upkeep in some pampering prison system!!

If only the justice systems in North America would follow suit!!!


On 17 Feb 2006 18:43:24 -0800, "LifeManTalking" 
wrote:

>AUSTRALIA - Few Australians have much sympathy for Andrew Chan and
>Myuran Sukumaran, the two drug traffickers sentenced to death in Bali
>this week for their failed bid to smuggle more than 8kg of heroin on to
>the streets of Sydney.

>The lives of too many of their young people have been destroyed by
>drugs and, as innumerable letters to newspapers and callers to talkback
>radio have pointed out, Chan and Sukumaran could never have been in any
>doubt of the risk they took in running narcotics through Indonesia.

>But the prospect of the pair being taken from Kerobokan jail, tied to a
>tree in some lonely clearing, and shot by a paramilitary firing squad
>raises deep and disturbing moral, political and diplomatic dilemmas for
>a nation that last executed a criminal almost 40 years ago and now
>opposes the death penalty worldwide.

>Their own police provided the information that inevitably led to
>Tuesday's sentence. Their Government welcomed the death penalty given
>to the Bali bombers but opposes the same fate for Australian drug
>traffickers, and public opinion is repulsed by the prospect of
>executions at home but inconsistently accepts them abroad.

>It is a diplomatic minefield that Canberra traversed when
>Vietnamese-born Melburnian Van Tuong Nguyen was hanged in Singapore in
>December for taking heroin through Changi airport, despite Australian
>appeals for clemency.

>It is also a minefield that the nation will confront time and again:
>despite repeated warnings and the appalling reality of executions,
>there will always be people foolish enough to strap drugs to their
>bodies or conceal it in their luggage.

>Almost all will pass through Southeast Asia, the source of most of
>Australia's heroin (the Bali Nine consignment originated in Thailand)
>and where every country but Cambodia compulsorily hangs, shoots or
>lethally injects traffickers.

>Mike Phelan, the head of international operations for the Australian
>Federal Police and the man responsible for giving Indonesia the
>information it needed to arrest the Bali Nine, sees no end to the queue
>of couriers the trade calls "mules".

>"It continues to astound me that people attempt importations and move
>drugs through transit countries knowing that the death penalty exists,"
>he told ABC's Australian Story. "Many young lives get thrown away for
>the law of quick dollars."

>The AFP's role in the arrest of the Bali Nine is among the most
>sensitive of the issues facing Prime Minister John Howard, who has
>already weathered a barrage of criticism that has extended even into
>his own party room.

>The AFP caught the first whispers of a major heroin importing run in
>February last year and, in April, asked the Indonesian police to help
>uncover the members of the syndicate and the source of their supplies.

>Between them, the two forces discovered most of the names and built a
>remarkably accurate picture of their operation, including details of a
>previous successful run and another aborted attempt.

>This co-operation has become increasingly commonplace, spurred by the
>determination of all countries in the region to attack drug trafficking
>and terrorism. Intelligence swapping is required under a number of
>treaties.

>"We make no secret of the fact that the AFP has a policy of forward
>engagement where we want to stop the crimes at the source and (prevent
>them) from reaching Australian shores," Phelan said. "That's a practice
>we will continue to operate within."

>What worries many Australians is the fact that the AFP in effect turned
>over a group of young Australians to a country it knew was likely to
>execute them, rather than arresting them when they arrived home.

>The most emotional response centred on Scott Rush, 20, a drug mule who
>was jailed for life. His family, through lawyer Bob Myers, vainly asked
>the AFP to warn Rush of their interest before he left Australia.

>"No Australian public servant has the right to expose any Australian
>citizen to the death penalty," Myers told Australian Story.

>Rush and fellow mules Renae Lawrence, Martin Stephens and Michael
>Czugaj took the AFP to the Federal Court, claiming it had acted
>illegally by exposing them to the death penalty.

>While a large part of public opinion agreed, the court dismissed the
>action.

>The Government has also sidestepped criticism, pointing out that while
>the relevant treaty with Indonesia contains a clause allowing the
>Attorney-General to refuse to provide evidence if an Australian was
>charged with an offence carrying the death penalty, the AFP was free to
>do as it thought best until charges were laid.

>By the time the Bali Nine were formally charged, all the damaging
>evidence had been gathered.

>Phelan is unrepentant: "Basically all transit countries through which
>drugs come to Australia have the death penalty. The AFP cannot pick and
>choose who it chooses to cooperate with."

>International teamwork in the past few years has significantly reduced
>the flow of drugs into Australia. The most recent Australian Crime
>Commission figures, for 2003-04, show the lowest seizures of heroin for
>a decade.

>Refusal to co-operate abroad would outrage regional governments and
>threaten mutual action against other drug syndicates and terrorism.

>Public opinion in Southeast Asia also strongly favours the death
>penalty for traffickers, with polls in Singapore and Thailand showing
>support of up to 80 per cent.

>In Australia, opinion is more confused. A Morgan poll in November found
>that while only 27 per cent of Australians favoured the death penalty
>for murder, 57 per cent believed drug traffickers caught in Asia should
>die.

>Yet in the specific case of Van Nguyen, opinion was evenly divided.

>In The Australian, a newspoll found that more than 50 per cent of
>Australians favoured the death sentence for people convicted of major
>acts of terrorism.

>Howard now has to weigh all these conflicting factors in framing
>Canberra's approach to the executions of Chan and Sukumaran. He has
>said publicly he has no sympathy for the two men but will vigorously
>pursue Australia's long-standing opposition to the death penalty.

>How that is carried out will test Australian diplomacy.

>Apart from the risks to a fragile relationship, observers have pointed
>out that any blunt approach will almost certainly stiffen backs in
>Jakarta and end any chance of clemency.

>Hopes of saving Chan and Sukumaran now rest with Indonesia's
>inconsistent record in carrying out executions, the fact that in recent
>times only three of the more than 85 prisoners on death row have been
>shot, and the lengthy legal road still to be travelled.

>It may be years before their case moves through the Denpasar provincial
>High Court and the two reviews possible through the Supreme Court in
>Jakarta.

>And though President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono has said he will never
>grant clemency to drug traffickers, time and quiet diplomacy may change
>his mind.

>Death penalty Australia's double dilemma 
>
>18.02.06
>By Greg Ansley



From Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 23:20:54 EDT 2007
Article: 548860 of soc.culture.europe
Xref: sn-us soc.culture.russian:430128 soc.culture.europe:548860
Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-01!sn-xt-sjc-12!sn-xt-sjc-08!sn-xt-sjc-01!sn-xt-sjc-14!supernews.com!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2so!shaw.ca!pd7tw2no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail
X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.149.230.220
From: Asterix 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.europe
Subject: Re: Christian Girls Sold to ZHID Sex Slavery!!
Reply-To: Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com
Message-ID: 
References:  <444D10B7.67CE0790@popmail.med.nyu.edu>
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Lines: 193
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 23:58:56 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176
X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca
X-Trace: pd7tw2no 1145923136 64.59.135.176 (Mon, 24 Apr 2006 17:58:56 MDT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 17:58:56 MDT
Organization: Shaw Residential Internet

When your wife, daughter or girlfriend is sold into sex slavery for
the ZYDS, then perhaps you might have some compassions!!


On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:53:59 -0400, Vladimir Makarenko
 wrote:

>According to number of times you posted it here there left no Christian
>girls to sell. And we Christians don't give a damn about girls of other
>confessions. 
>Could you please switch to some alt.business?
>
>VM.

>Chief Instigator wrote:
>> 
>> On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 10:04:35 -0700, Susan Shiksa Cohen
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Russian girls who are beautiful, as well as Polish and Ukrainian
>> girls, are all sold on the open slave markets in ZHID Israel, where
>> white slavery is legal.
>> 
>> >On 25 Oct 2004 11:21:36 -0000, DerTavish 
>> >wrote:
>> 
>> >>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, convicted of child molesting
>> >>and car theft in California and Oregon, the
>> >>well-known fag in Canada,Fag McVay of Vancouver,
>> >>and still unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of
>> >>the Canadian branch of NAMBLA, finally dying as a diseased
>> >>AIDS-spreader, wants all to know
>> >>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
>> >>Here is the latest.......
>> 
>> >>From: Rameses 
>> >>Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian
>> >>Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:40:57 -0700
>> 
>> >>The June 16 Saturday supplement to the Jerusalem Post reported:
>> 
>> >>"Every year hundreds of women, and an unknown number of
>> >>girls under the age of 18, are bought, sold, drugged,
>> >>imprisoned, and forced to work as prostitutes in Israel's
>> >>thriving sex industry.
>> 
>> >>In countries such as Russia, Ukraine, Latvia, and Hungary,
>> >>traffickers prey on desperate women. Facing poverty, the
>> >>women are lured to Israel with the promise that they will
>> >>make fabulous salaries working as teachers or caregivers.
>> 
>> >>In Israel prostitution is not illegal. Nor is there
>> >>legislation against trafficking or slavery".
>> 
>> >>With the governments of eastern Europe controlled by the
>> >>evil mafia bosses that profit from this trade, don't
>> >>expect anything to be done about this sickening crime
>> >>against humanity.
>> 
>> If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>> then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>> 
>> Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>> 
>> "At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>> is a revolutionary act."
>> (George Orwell)
>> 
>> David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>> 
>> "All truth passes through three stages.
>> First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>> and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>> (Arthur Schopenhauer)
>> 
>> "The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>> but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>> falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>> they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>> against them -- except force." -- John Bryant
>> 
>> "To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>> acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>> and impossible to ignore."
>> --John Bryant
>> 
>> Posted by:
>> Steven Horn (KCOM)
>> 1836 NW 11th St
>> Oklahoma City, OK 73106
>> (405) 524-0576
>> 
>> together with
>> 
>> Boris Dynin  = NAMBLA executive &
>> Henry who like
>> late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>> Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>> I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>> We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>> 
>> CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>> Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even
>> VISIT me at:
>> 55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco  94132
>> 
>> Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>> office: VISIT at:
>> #5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>> Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>> or call: 1-250-616-9431
>> 
>> As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>> called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
>> should give an indication as to the why.
>> 
>> "I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>> proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>> yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>> seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>> my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>> moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>> http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>> also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>> 
>> Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
>> a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>> even if he or she were not naked"?
>> http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>> 
>> For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>> background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>> detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>> known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>> It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>> to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>> 
>> Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>> NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>> Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late nights.
>> 
>> Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>> Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>> I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
>> send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>> work:(780)492-0473
>> 
>> And also: George Firestone: "George" 
>> 
>> Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>> Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!
>> 
>> For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>> JEW-WATCH:
>> http://www.jewwatch.com
>> 
>> Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>> NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>> people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>> 
>> Or, other useful websites include:
>> ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>> IHR - www.ihr.org
>> OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>> PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>> Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>> AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>> THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>>     Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>>     Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
>> 
>> Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>> They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>> 
>> They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>> and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>> 
>> As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>> victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>> of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>> May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>> 
>> In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>> for many years around the world.
>> 
>> Reply-To: "George" 
>> 
>> _________________________________________
>> Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server
>> More than 140,000 groups
>> Unlimited download
>> http://www.usenetzone.com to open account



From Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 23:20:54 EDT 2007
Article: 549477 of soc.culture.europe
Xref: sn-us soc.culture.singapore:1300176 soc.culture.australian:387526 uk.politics.misc:1708624 soc.culture.europe:549477 alt.activism.death-penalty:407819
Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-02!sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-03!sn-xt-sjc-11!sn-xt-sjc-07!sn-xt-sjc-05!supernews.com!207.217.77.43.MISMATCH!elnk-pas-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2so!shaw.ca!pd7tw2no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail
X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.149.230.220
From: Asterix 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore,soc.culture.australian,uk.politics.misc,soc.culture.europe,alt.activism.death-penalty
Subject: Re: Singapore is doing Australians a BIG FAVOUR!!! (Re: An Australian thank Singapore)
Reply-To: Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com
Message-ID: 
References: <43851975$1@news.starhub.net.sg> <21430467.PfuGrQ4Kbl@wpngnc.org> <3ukmv3F11c75lU7@individual.net> <1392786.SHsunlmuuy@wpngnc.org> <43885539$0$5708$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com>
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Lines: 272
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 17:55:44 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176
X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca
X-Trace: pd7tw2no 1146333344 64.59.135.176 (Sat, 29 Apr 2006 11:55:44 MDT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 11:55:44 MDT
Organization: Shaw Residential Internet

On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 23:29:35 +1100, "Just JT" 
wrote:
>"Daeron"  wrote:

>> As it happens, yes I am Australian so yes the drugs were intended for me
>> and my nation. But neither I nor my community want Nguyen to be executed
>> for trying to do this stupid and wicked thing for his brother.
>~~~~~~~~~~~~
>F*ck off and speak for yourself, bleeding heart lefty! I live am Australian 
>and I AM HAPPY THAT THIS SCUMBAG DRUG CARRIER NGUYEN WILL PAY FOR HIS LIFE. 
>Australia should REINTRODUCE the death penalty for heinous crimes such as 
>DRUG TRAFFICKING.

>> And I see no reason that Singapore should have to pay for his imprisonment
>> either, just because it managed to pickup this person in transit whom the
>> Australian customs may or may not have caught. I think it is only fair 
>> that
>> he be transported to Australia for Australia to pay the costs.
>~~~~~~~~~~~~
>F*CK OFF AGAIN. Our taxpayers' money is better spent on PROTECTING and 
>SUPPORTING LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS like you and me. These CRIMINALS SHOULD ALL 
>DIE DIE DIE!!

>SINGAPORE, I SALUTE YOU FOR EXECUTING THIS DRUG CARRIER!!!

Singapore must be thanked for saving taxpayers in Australia many
millions in costs and maintenance of this garbage creature.
Send Singapore a good present for Chinese New Year 29 January.

Be sure to include for immediate extermination, those judges who have
approved special rights for the AIDS-spreading fags, as well as judges
giving special deals for multiple murderers!!

In much of Europe, and the Middle East, such disease spreaders get
their just punishment, which in some cases merits the DP!

Tomorrow another drug dealer will get the Singapore Long Drop!!
HOORAY!!

On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 13:34:37 -0700, Ernst Zundholtz
 wrote:

>DP=Good Ways to Eliminate Garbage,especially AIDS-spreading fags, and multiple murderers!!

>This is an old article, which certainly is germane,
>since many US states, and foreign countries are
>starting to agree with the policies of Don Kool.

>There has been much discussion regarding the advantages
>of televising executions.

>A few more thoughts on the subject.

>The State can in fact auction off the rights to each and every
>execution. The proceeds thereof could be allocated to the
>VICTIMS of the criminals executed.

>The victims and their families should have the RIGHT to
>not only determine the method of execution, but should also
>have the right and privilege of executing the criminals themselves.

>Some of the types of criminals meriting execution,
>but not limited to such, would include:

>         AIDS spreaders
>         rapists
>         drug dealers
>         home invaders
>         armed robbers
>         pederasts and similar child molesters
>         crooked liars/lawyers
>         corrupt judges
>         corrupt politicians
>         insane anti-DP supporters such as despicable Desi??
>         members of parole boards allowing dangerous criminals free
>         useless psychiatrists & welfare staff responsible for
>              criminals being released

>Additional reasons for meriting the death penalty would include:

>any spreader of any disease,including STD - this would
>     obviously  include most faggots
>white collar criminals causing losses of more than 100,000
>     dollars  (just ask senior citizens who have been swindled,
>     how they would   exterminate those who preyed upon them!!)

>More suggestions for both categories are invited.

>Some popular methods for extermination of such vermin would include:

>         crucifixion, as recommended by intphase
>         vivisection
>         medical experiments without anaesthetic
>         target practice for police and military
>         beheading
>         hanging
>         barbecueing by electrocution
>         drawing & quartering
>         guillotining, very popular in France
>         flaying alive until dead
>         stoning to death - popular in some jurisdictions

>Suggestions are invited, on all the above points.


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


Posted by: 
Patrick Lee Humphrey
7500 Bellerive #1807
Houston, Texas 77036-3040
1-713-266-7764

Steven Horn (KCOM)
1836 NW 11th St
Oklahoma City, OK 73106
(405) 524-0576

together with
Boris Dynin  = NAMBLA executive & 
Henry 
CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even 
VISIT me at:
55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco  94132

We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.


Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David
Michael's
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and
is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a
grosvenor!! 
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases,
just 
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially
late nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
work:(780)492-0473

And also: George Firestone: "George" 

Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
for many years around the world.

Reply-To: "George" 




From Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 23:20:55 EDT 2007
Article: 549478 of soc.culture.europe
Xref: sn-us soc.culture.singapore:1300177 soc.culture.indonesia:404463 soc.culture.australian:387528 alt.activism.death-penalty:407821 soc.culture.canada:531507 soc.culture.europe:549478
Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-04!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-06!sn-xt-sjc-14!supernews.com!postnews.google.com!news3.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newscon06.news.prodigy.com!newscon02.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.net!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2so!shaw.ca!pd7tw2no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail
X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.149.230.220
From: Asterix 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore,soc.culture.indonesia,soc.culture.australian,alt.activism.death-penalty,soc.culture.canada,soc.culture.europe
Subject: Re: 2 more Aussie Drug Traffickers to be Hanged - GOOD!
Reply-To: Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com
Message-ID: 
References: <1140230604.755199.42230@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Lines: 168
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 17:56:41 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176
X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca
X-Trace: pd7tw2no 1146333401 64.59.135.176 (Sat, 29 Apr 2006 11:56:41 MDT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 11:56:41 MDT
Organization: Shaw Residential Internet

At least the government of Indonesia know what to do with garbage
people, such as drug dealers.

They know, as do other sensible governments in the area, that an
executed criminal will never re-offend!!

Further, an executed waste of skin, will not cost the taxpayers for
the upkeep in some pampering prison system!!

If only the justice systems in North America would follow suit!!!


On 17 Feb 2006 18:43:24 -0800, "LifeManTalking" 
wrote:

>AUSTRALIA - Few Australians have much sympathy for Andrew Chan and
>Myuran Sukumaran, the two drug traffickers sentenced to death in Bali
>this week for their failed bid to smuggle more than 8kg of heroin on to
>the streets of Sydney.

>The lives of too many of their young people have been destroyed by
>drugs and, as innumerable letters to newspapers and callers to talkback
>radio have pointed out, Chan and Sukumaran could never have been in any
>doubt of the risk they took in running narcotics through Indonesia.

>But the prospect of the pair being taken from Kerobokan jail, tied to a
>tree in some lonely clearing, and shot by a paramilitary firing squad
>raises deep and disturbing moral, political and diplomatic dilemmas for
>a nation that last executed a criminal almost 40 years ago and now
>opposes the death penalty worldwide.

>Their own police provided the information that inevitably led to
>Tuesday's sentence. Their Government welcomed the death penalty given
>to the Bali bombers but opposes the same fate for Australian drug
>traffickers, and public opinion is repulsed by the prospect of
>executions at home but inconsistently accepts them abroad.

>It is a diplomatic minefield that Canberra traversed when
>Vietnamese-born Melburnian Van Tuong Nguyen was hanged in Singapore in
>December for taking heroin through Changi airport, despite Australian
>appeals for clemency.

>It is also a minefield that the nation will confront time and again:
>despite repeated warnings and the appalling reality of executions,
>there will always be people foolish enough to strap drugs to their
>bodies or conceal it in their luggage.

>Almost all will pass through Southeast Asia, the source of most of
>Australia's heroin (the Bali Nine consignment originated in Thailand)
>and where every country but Cambodia compulsorily hangs, shoots or
>lethally injects traffickers.

>Mike Phelan, the head of international operations for the Australian
>Federal Police and the man responsible for giving Indonesia the
>information it needed to arrest the Bali Nine, sees no end to the queue
>of couriers the trade calls "mules".

>"It continues to astound me that people attempt importations and move
>drugs through transit countries knowing that the death penalty exists,"
>he told ABC's Australian Story. "Many young lives get thrown away for
>the law of quick dollars."

>The AFP's role in the arrest of the Bali Nine is among the most
>sensitive of the issues facing Prime Minister John Howard, who has
>already weathered a barrage of criticism that has extended even into
>his own party room.

>The AFP caught the first whispers of a major heroin importing run in
>February last year and, in April, asked the Indonesian police to help
>uncover the members of the syndicate and the source of their supplies.

>Between them, the two forces discovered most of the names and built a
>remarkably accurate picture of their operation, including details of a
>previous successful run and another aborted attempt.

>This co-operation has become increasingly commonplace, spurred by the
>determination of all countries in the region to attack drug trafficking
>and terrorism. Intelligence swapping is required under a number of
>treaties.

>"We make no secret of the fact that the AFP has a policy of forward
>engagement where we want to stop the crimes at the source and (prevent
>them) from reaching Australian shores," Phelan said. "That's a practice
>we will continue to operate within."

>What worries many Australians is the fact that the AFP in effect turned
>over a group of young Australians to a country it knew was likely to
>execute them, rather than arresting them when they arrived home.

>The most emotional response centred on Scott Rush, 20, a drug mule who
>was jailed for life. His family, through lawyer Bob Myers, vainly asked
>the AFP to warn Rush of their interest before he left Australia.

>"No Australian public servant has the right to expose any Australian
>citizen to the death penalty," Myers told Australian Story.

>Rush and fellow mules Renae Lawrence, Martin Stephens and Michael
>Czugaj took the AFP to the Federal Court, claiming it had acted
>illegally by exposing them to the death penalty.

>While a large part of public opinion agreed, the court dismissed the
>action.

>The Government has also sidestepped criticism, pointing out that while
>the relevant treaty with Indonesia contains a clause allowing the
>Attorney-General to refuse to provide evidence if an Australian was
>charged with an offence carrying the death penalty, the AFP was free to
>do as it thought best until charges were laid.

>By the time the Bali Nine were formally charged, all the damaging
>evidence had been gathered.

>Phelan is unrepentant: "Basically all transit countries through which
>drugs come to Australia have the death penalty. The AFP cannot pick and
>choose who it chooses to cooperate with."

>International teamwork in the past few years has significantly reduced
>the flow of drugs into Australia. The most recent Australian Crime
>Commission figures, for 2003-04, show the lowest seizures of heroin for
>a decade.

>Refusal to co-operate abroad would outrage regional governments and
>threaten mutual action against other drug syndicates and terrorism.

>Public opinion in Southeast Asia also strongly favours the death
>penalty for traffickers, with polls in Singapore and Thailand showing
>support of up to 80 per cent.

>In Australia, opinion is more confused. A Morgan poll in November found
>that while only 27 per cent of Australians favoured the death penalty
>for murder, 57 per cent believed drug traffickers caught in Asia should
>die.

>Yet in the specific case of Van Nguyen, opinion was evenly divided.

>In The Australian, a newspoll found that more than 50 per cent of
>Australians favoured the death sentence for people convicted of major
>acts of terrorism.

>Howard now has to weigh all these conflicting factors in framing
>Canberra's approach to the executions of Chan and Sukumaran. He has
>said publicly he has no sympathy for the two men but will vigorously
>pursue Australia's long-standing opposition to the death penalty.

>How that is carried out will test Australian diplomacy.

>Apart from the risks to a fragile relationship, observers have pointed
>out that any blunt approach will almost certainly stiffen backs in
>Jakarta and end any chance of clemency.

>Hopes of saving Chan and Sukumaran now rest with Indonesia's
>inconsistent record in carrying out executions, the fact that in recent
>times only three of the more than 85 prisoners on death row have been
>shot, and the lengthy legal road still to be travelled.

>It may be years before their case moves through the Denpasar provincial
>High Court and the two reviews possible through the Supreme Court in
>Jakarta.

>And though President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono has said he will never
>grant clemency to drug traffickers, time and quiet diplomacy may change
>his mind.

>Death penalty Australia's double dilemma 
>
>18.02.06
>By Greg Ansley



From Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 23:20:56 EDT 2007
Article: 549479 of soc.culture.europe
Xref: sn-us soc.culture.europe:549479 soc.culture.polish:711961
Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-02!sn-xt-sjc-12!sn-xt-sjc-08!sn-xt-sjc-13!supernews.com!newshub.sdsu.edu!elnk-nf2-pas!elnk-pas-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2so!shaw.ca!pd7tw2no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail
X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.149.230.220
From: Asterix 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.polish
Subject: Re: 51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis =KASTNER CASE+ WIESENTHAL! Repost
Reply-To: Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com
Message-ID: <3ba752tkg7aoo0t9c5hgrg4fvq18ngh3cm@4ax.com>
References:  <1100135687.p0A22pziB+tHsfUDIEEo+Q@teranews> 
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Lines: 345
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 17:56:52 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176
X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca
X-Trace: pd7tw2no 1146333412 64.59.135.176 (Sat, 29 Apr 2006 11:56:52 MDT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 11:56:52 MDT
Organization: Shaw Residential Internet

From: The Truth Seeker 
Newsgroups:
soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.palestine,
talk.politics.mideast,soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.israel
Subject: 51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 12:53:13 +0000 (UTC)

51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis.

By Lenni Brenner

Lenni Brenner has collated documents that relate to how the Zionist
movement collaborated with German Nazism and Italian Fascism. Given
the subsequent Holocaust against the Jews by the Nazis, many will be
surprised and appalled that a political movement, which supposedly
supported Jewish liberation, was prepared to collaborate with the most
anti-semitic of regimes.

Among the documents is the relatively well known and infamous ŚStern
Gang Proposalą in which the organisation of future Israeli PM Yitzhak
Shamir offers to join in WWII on Śthe side of the German Reichą. There
is also the embarrassing documents of the German Zionists who saw the
Nazis as fellow nationalists and were thus sympathetic to ŚGerman
national renewalą, the memoirs of an SS officer who stays in Palestine
as the guest of the Zionist movement for 6 months.

These acts of collaboration were not limited to the right wing fringe
of the Zionist movement but went to the heart of the Zionist Labour
establishment when the head of the Haganah, Feival Polkes, became a
willing paid informer of the Gestapo. He was even handled by one of
the architects of the Final Solution, Adolf Eichmann, who also
travelled to Palestine to liaise with the Zionists.

These shocking historical documents will make you realise that the
history of the political movement which founded the state of Israel is
not quite what it seems.

They also prove that Zionists will do *anything* to protect their
precious political movement, even if it means sacrificing several
million Jews in the process, then exploiting their suffering to secure
the greater goal of a Zionist State.

The Truth Seeker has spoken.


On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 11:08:04 -0700, Ken McVayAIDS/SOB
 wrote:
>Reply-To: "George" ,
>PRAWDA!
>
>On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:14:47 -0700, Heinrich Himmelfarb
> wrote:
>
>>The story documented below means that the KASTNER CASE was not an
>>isolated incident!!
>
>Now even Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to be a Nazi GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!
>
>
>>On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:25:52 GMT, c@c.cc wrote:
>>> 51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis  
>
>>>September 2004, page 86 
>
>>>Book Review
>
>>>51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis
>>>By Lenni Brenner, ed. Barricade Books, 2002, 342 pp. List: $22; AET:
>>>$15.
>
>>>Reviewed by Sara Powell
>>>It’s no secret that Zionism embraced political expediency to advance
>>>the cause of carving Eretz-Israel from the land of its native
>>>inhabitants. In his 1983 book, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators,
>>>Lenni Brenner shows that 20th century Zionists observed shockingly few
>>>limits to that expediency. Not surprisingly, the book received little
>>>coverage in the American media. Now, in 51 Documents, Brenner has
>>>compiled a wide variety of letters, statements, articles, and
>>>judgements—some of which appeared in his earlier book—by a broad array
>>>of activists and authors, that documents Zionist cooperration with the
>>>Nazis. On the face of it, the notion seems absurd. However, Brenner
>>>presents the case—made in many Zionists’ own words—that the Nazi
>>>agenda of expelling the Jews from Germany fit nicely with the Zionist
>>>plan for enticing those Jews into settling in Palestine and creating a
>>>new Jewish nation. 
>>>
>>>In addition to introductory and concluding chapters, the book is
>>>organized into five sections which lead the reader through early,
>>>pre-Zionist documents; pre-Holocaust ideological factions; the
>>>Holocaust era itself; and a chapter on the Stern Gang and the Nazis.
>>>Readers should note that a few documents are not indicative of
>>>collaboration in and of themselves, but provide the background to
>>>others written in response. These latter do indicate levels of
>>>collaboration between Zionists and fascists, both the Nazis in
>>>Germany, and those in Mussolini’s Italy. Brenner’s brief explanatory
>>>notes at the beginning of each document are helpful, as are the
>>>glossary and index.
>>>
>>>51 Documents assumes a certain knowledge of Zionist history, and
>>>requires a close reading and some deconstructive efforts on the part
>>>of the reader. Those willing to commit the time and effort, however,
>>>are rewarded with some stunning revelations. The reason some Zionists
>>>eschewed the boycott against Hitler’s Germany, for instance, is that
>>>they had a financial deal—Ha’avara—with Germany allowing Jews to
>>>exchange their wealth for goods to be exported to Palestine at less of
>>>a loss, as an incentive to emigrate. Those wondering why Zionists
>>>today are so organized and experienced in their public relations
>>>efforts discover that these battles have been fought before. Moreover,
>>>the section on Nazi and Zionist understandings of “nationality” versus
>>>citizenship reveals how German and Israeli practices are based on the
>>>same concept. 
>>>
>>>51 Documents also sheds a whole new light on the term “Holocaust
>>>guilt,” frequently understood to mean Western, non-Jewish guilt for
>>>not acting against the Holocaust earlier. However, these documents
>>>make it clear that Holocaust guilt began with those Zionists who made
>>>the undoubtedly difficult, but politically expedient choice to place
>>>Eretz-Israel at the top of their priorities, above the lives of their
>>>threatened European brethren.
>>>
>>>From a Zionist Executive Meeting speech by Yitzhak Gruenbaum on Feb.
>>>18, 1943:
>>>
>>>And when some asked me: “Can’t you give money from Keren Ha Yesod
>>>(Palestine Foundation Fund) to save Jews in the Diaspora?” I said:
>>>“No!” And again I say no....And, because of these things, people
>>>called me an anti-Semite, and concluded that I’m guilty, for the fact
>>>that we don’t give ourselves completely to rescue actions. (p. 211)
>>>
>>>However difficult it may be, the reader must confront some rather
>>>disturbing conclusions. The most unsettling realization for this
>>>reviewer is that pre-Holocaust Zionists were able to politically align
>>>themselves with the Nazis because both groups fundamentally saw race
>>>as an important dividing line—and, moreover, were determined to keep
>>>it that way. From Vladimir Jabotinsky to Albert Einstein,
>>>“assimilation” of Jews into the societies in which they lived was not
>>>an acceptable option. Rather, Jewish nationalism required equality on
>>>a national level, not a personal one. As Jabotinsky explained, “It is
>>>impossible for a man to become assimilated with people whose blood is
>>>different from his own” (p. 10); in Einstein’s words, “Palestine is
>>>first and foremost not a refuge for East European Jews, but the
>>>incarnation of a reawakening sense of national solidarity” (p. 29).
>>>Finally, David Yisraeli, a member of the Stern Gang, wrote the
>>>following in late 1940, as part of a proposal to Hitler. It was
>>>delivered in 1941 to two German diplomats in Lebanon.
>>>
>>>3. The establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and
>>>totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would be
>>>in the interest of a maintained and strengthened future German
>>>position of power in the Near East (p. 301).
>>>
>>>Such beliefs, of course, were not limited to Nazis and Zionists.
>>>Scientific and philosophical constructs of the day considered such
>>>differentiation legitimate, and ideas of racial difference—and,
>>>therefore, racial supremacy—were practiced around the world.
>>>
>>>Another disturbing conclusion a reader must inevitably face is that
>>>Zionists learned both tactical and political lessons from the Nazis
>>>and that, even today, these lessons are applied to further the Zionist
>>>cause. Although most likely known to potential readers of this book,
>>>another disturbing element is the cover-up of the less than savory
>>>roles of current Israeli leaders, including former prime ministers, in
>>>the terrorist Irgun and Stern Gang just before, during, and after the
>>>Holocaust. Likewise, the succumbing of various U.S. officials to
>>>Zionist pressure is a familiar, but distressing, story.
>>>
>>>51 Documents seems to represent a renewed attempt by Brenner to bring
>>>information regarding Zionist collaboration with the Nazis to U.S.
>>>supporters of Israel, as well as to Jews and Muslims, in order to
>>>expand dialogue with knowledge, and save lives—both Palestinian and
>>>Israeli—in the process. Readers of 51 Documents will find it difficult
>>>not to remove the rose colored glasses that so many seem to wear when
>>>examining Zionism.
>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
>is a revolutionary act." 
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages. 
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant
>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
>is a revolutionary act." 
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages. 
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant
>
>
>Posted by: 
>Patrick Lee Humphrey
>7500 Bellerive #1807
>Houston, Texas 77036-3040
>1-713-266-7764
>
>Steven Horn (KCOM)
>1836 NW 11th St
>Oklahoma City, OK 73106
>(405) 524-0576
>
>together with
>Boris Dynin  = NAMBLA executive & 
>Henry 
>CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even 
>VISIT me at:
>55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco  94132
>
>We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>
>
>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>office: VISIT at:
>#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>or call: 1-250-616-9431
>
>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
>called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
>should give an indication as to the why.
>
>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>
>Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked"?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>
>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
>to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>
>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late
>nights.
>
>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
>send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>work:(780)492-0473
>
>And also: George Firestone: "George" 
>
>Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!
>
>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com
>
>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>IHR - www.ihr.org
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
>
>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>
>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>
>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>
>In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>for many years around the world.
>
>Reply-To: "George" 
>
>_________________________________________
>Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server
>More than 140,000 groups
>Unlimited download
>http://www.usenetzone.com to open account



Article: 133835 of soc.culture.baltics
Xref: sn-us soc.culture.baltics:133835
Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-01!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-06!sn-xt-sjc-14!supernews.com!postnews.google.com!news4.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2so!shaw.ca!pd7tw2no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail
X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.149.230.220
From: Asterix 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.baltics
Subject: Lady Interested in A Visitor?
Reply-To: Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com
Message-ID: <3p8t321oar7otf5dmqke0grijg3emgg0pm@4ax.com>
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Lines: 4
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 19:14:09 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176
X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca
X-Trace: pd7tw2no 1144955649 64.59.135.176 (Thu, 13 Apr 2006 13:14:09 MDT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 13:14:09 MDT
Organization: Shaw Residential Internet

66 year old man from northern Canada is interested in visiting 
Baltics, if there is anyone interested in showing me around.
Prefer mature lady, say 50-70?
If you are interested, kindly reply to: intergroup@operamail.com


From Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Dec 29 23:39:27 EST 2007
Article: 430128 of soc.culture.russian
Xref: sn-us soc.culture.russian:430128 soc.culture.europe:548860
Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-01!sn-xt-sjc-12!sn-xt-sjc-08!sn-xt-sjc-01!sn-xt-sjc-14!supernews.com!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2so!shaw.ca!pd7tw2no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail
X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.149.230.220
From: Asterix 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.europe
Subject: Re: Christian Girls Sold to ZHID Sex Slavery!!
Reply-To: Asterix@roc.usenetexchange.com
Message-ID: 
References:  <444D10B7.67CE0790@popmail.med.nyu.edu>
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Lines: 193
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 23:58:56 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176
X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca
X-Trace: pd7tw2no 1145923136 64.59.135.176 (Mon, 24 Apr 2006 17:58:56 MDT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 17:58:56 MDT
Organization: Shaw Residential Internet

When your wife, daughter or girlfriend is sold into sex slavery for
the ZYDS, then perhaps you might have some compassions!!


On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:53:59 -0400, Vladimir Makarenko
 wrote:

>According to number of times you posted it here there left no Christian
>girls to sell. And we Christians don't give a damn about girls of other
>confessions. 
>Could you please switch to some alt.business?
>
>VM.

>Chief Instigator wrote:
>> 
>> On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 10:04:35 -0700, Susan Shiksa Cohen
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Russian girls who are beautiful, as well as Polish and Ukrainian
>> girls, are all sold on the open slave markets in ZHID Israel, where
>> white slavery is legal.
>> 
>> >On 25 Oct 2004 11:21:36 -0000, DerTavish 
>> >wrote:
>> 
>> >>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, convicted of child molesting
>> >>and car theft in California and Oregon, the
>> >>well-known fag in Canada,Fag McVay of Vancouver,
>> >>and still unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of
>> >>the Canadian branch of NAMBLA, finally dying as a diseased
>> >>AIDS-spreader, wants all to know
>> >>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
>> >>Here is the latest.......
>> 
>> >>From: Rameses 
>> >>Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian
>> >>Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:40:57 -0700
>> 
>> >>The June 16 Saturday supplement to the Jerusalem Post reported:
>> 
>> >>"Every year hundreds of women, and an unknown number of
>> >>girls under the age of 18, are bought, sold, drugged,
>> >>imprisoned, and forced to work as prostitutes in Israel's
>> >>thriving sex industry.
>> 
>> >>In countries such as Russia, Ukraine, Latvia, and Hungary,
>> >>traffickers prey on desperate women. Facing poverty, the
>> >>women are lured to Israel with the promise that they will
>> >>make fabulous salaries working as teachers or caregivers.
>> 
>> >>In Israel prostitution is not illegal. Nor is there
>> >>legislation against trafficking or slavery".
>> 
>> >>With the governments of eastern Europe controlled by the
>> >>evil mafia bosses that profit from this trade, don't
>> >>expect anything to be done about this sickening crime
>> >>against humanity.
>> 
>> If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>> then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>> 
>> Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>> 
>> "At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>> is a revolutionary act."
>> (George Orwell)
>> 
>> David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>> 
>> "All truth passes through three stages.
>> First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>> and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>> (Arthur Schopenhauer)
>> 
>> "The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>> but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>> falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>> they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>> against them -- except force." -- John Bryant
>> 
>> "To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>> acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>> and impossible to ignore."
>> --John Bryant
>> 
>> Posted by:
>> Steven Horn (KCOM)
>> 1836 NW 11th St
>> Oklahoma City, OK 73106
>> (405) 524-0576
>> 
>> together with
>> 
>> Boris Dynin  = NAMBLA executive &
>> Henry who like
>> late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>> Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>> I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>> We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>> 
>> CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>> Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even
>> VISIT me at:
>> 55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco  94132
>> 
>> Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>> office: VISIT at:
>> #5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>> Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>> or call: 1-250-616-9431
>> 
>> As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>> called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
>> should give an indication as to the why.
>> 
>> "I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>> proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>> yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>> seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>> my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>> moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>> http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>> also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>> 
>> Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
>> a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>> even if he or she were not naked"?
>> http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>> 
>> For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>> background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>> detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>> known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>> It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>> to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>> 
>> Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>> NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>> Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late nights.
>> 
>> Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>> Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>> I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
>> send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>> work:(780)492-0473
>> 
>> And also: George Firestone: "George" 
>> 
>> Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>> Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!
>> 
>> For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>> JEW-WATCH:
>> http://www.jewwatch.com
>> 
>> Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>> NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>> people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>> 
>> Or, other useful websites include:
>> ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>> IHR - www.ihr.org
>> OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>> PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>> Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>> AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>> THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>>     Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>>     Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
>> 
>> Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>> They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>> 
>> They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>> and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>> 
>> As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>> victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>> of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>> May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>> 
>> In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>> for many years around the world.
>> 
>> Reply-To: "George" 
>> 
>> _________________________________________
>> Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server
>> More than 140,000 groups
>> Unlimited download
>> http://www.usenetzone.com to open account



Home ·  Site Map ·  What's New? ·  Search Nizkor

© The Nizkor Project, 1991-2012

This site is intended for educational purposes to teach about the Holocaust and to combat hatred. Any statements or excerpts found on this site are for educational purposes only.

As part of these educational purposes, Nizkor may include on this website materials, such as excerpts from the writings of racists and antisemites. Far from approving these writings, Nizkor condemns them and provides them so that its readers can learn the nature and extent of hate and antisemitic discourse. Nizkor urges the readers of these pages to condemn racist and hate speech in all of its forms and manifestations.