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On Fri, 25 Dec 1998 02:16:31 GMT, koyvay@nazikor.org wrote:

>On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:46:32 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>>On Sat, 04 Apr 1998 15:50:56 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>
>>>It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
>>>Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
>>>authorities in both canada and the USA!!!
>
>>>On 28 Mar 1998 19:27:41 GMT, kmcvay@nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay SOB)
>>>wrote:
>
>>>Feel free to forward your complaints also to revenue Canada, either by
>>>phone or E-mail.
>>>
>>>Notice that the gas station employee McVay, his employment exposed in
>>>an interview a week ago in local papers,  refuses to answer the
>>>questions.
>>>
>>>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>>>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.
>>>
>>>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>>>because of the heat from the authorities!!!
>>>
>>>One must wonder whether he is so rejected by the Jews in B.C>, that he
>>>had to go to Edmonton to hold a meeting??
>>>
>>>Or, could it be that in Alberta Canada, there are more thinking
>>>people, who reject the garbage disseminated by OyVay and his gang??
>>>
>>>Perhaps some of the others in North America interested in discussing
>>>the Holohoax will also respond.
>>>
>>>>>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, nationalist@juno.com (Michael )
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote
>>>
>>>>>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>>>>>> will not answer the critical questions.
>>>
>>>>>>Nothing new here.
>>>
>>>>>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>>>>>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>>>>>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>>>>>> it is NOT!!!
>>>
>>>>>>Definitely not a charity.
>>>
>>>Revenue Canada Taxation - Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>>Canada!!!
>>>
>>>They can be reached directly, for filing complaints, at:
>>>	Telephone to: 1-800-267-2384
>>>
>>>Also, you can E-mail complaints about Nizkor, to them, at:
>>>	http://www.rc.gc.ca/charities
>>>
>>>An alternative telephone number for fraud complaints is 
>>>Special Investigations Revenue Canada at:
>>>	telephone # 204-983-1829
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won't Answer!!!!
>>>>>> 
>>>
>>>>>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>>>>>> answer??
>>>
>>>>>> Is it really an international tax fraud?
>>>
>>>>>> What have the I.R.S. to say??
>>>
>>>>>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>>>>>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.
>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>>>>>> who can be reached at:
>>>         http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html
>>>
>>>>>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>>>>>         webmaster@rc.gc.ca, or
>>>>>>	 http://www.rc.gc.ca
>>>
>>>	 In Message, put first line of message as: 
>>>	ATTENTION SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
>>>             or telephone to: 204-983-1829
>>>
>>>	They are waiting for your complaints
>>>
>>>>> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won't Answer is:
>>>
>>>>> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997  00:14:06 GMT
>>>>> >From: Doctor detroit (Adjust@chiropractor.com)
>>>>> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>>>>> >Subject: to repeat the questions
>>>
>>>>> >       Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.
>>>
>>>>> >       1)      What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?
>>>
>>>>>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy's case it is the Order of British Columbia.
>>>
>>>>> >       2)      What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
>>>>> >               letters?
>>>
>>>>>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>>>>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>>>>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>>>>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.
>>>
>>>>> >       3)      What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>>>
>>>>> >       4)      What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>>>
>>>>>>Probably written on McGoy's forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>>>>>Brith's butt.
>>>
>>>>>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>>>>>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay
>>>
>>>>>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.
>>>
>>>>> >       5)      What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>>>
>>>>> >       6)      Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?
>>>
>>>>>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>>>>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.
>>>
>>>>> >       7)      What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
>>>>> >               solicit tax free contributions?
>>>
>>>>>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone "contributes" more than $10 that Bnai
>>>>>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>>>>>Canadian dollars. 
>>>
>>>>> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
>>>>> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.
>>>
>>>>> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
>>>>> >OyVey???
>>>
>>>>>>It's a reasonable assumption.
>>>
>>>>> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.
>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism dleonik@accesscomm.net
>>>>>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:
>>>
>>>>> >Check this out!
>>>
>>>>>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>>>>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken's "Big Lie"
>>>>>>letter just ask.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >Nizkor Funding
>>>>> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>>>>> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>>>>> >of B'nai Brith Canada ...with the cheque's memo including "Nizkor
>>>>> >Project". ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>>>>> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
>>>>> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>>>>> >Excite Search---Search: "nizkor"
>>>
>>>>> >"From B'nai Brith's 1996 'Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents':
>>>
>>>>>>  The League is working closely
>>>>> >with Ken McVay's Nizkor Project (http://www.nizkor.org) through the
>>>>> >"Holocaust and Hope" program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>>>> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>>>> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic.  The creation of a
>>>>> >B'nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>>>> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>>>> >incidents directly to the National Office."
>>>
>>>>>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
>>>>> >promote Jewish interests. 
>>>
>>>>>>That is putting it "lightly".
>>>
>>>>>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky's book "By Way of
>>>>>>Deception". Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>>>>>the Nizkooks are up to.
>>>
>>>>>>nationalist@juno.com
>>>>>>"http://www.natall.com"
>>>>>>"http://www.natvan.com"
>>>
>>>>>>National Vanguard Books
>>>>>>P.O. Box 330
>>>>>>Hillsboro, WV   24946
>>>
>>>>>>Get the text of American Dissident Voices broadcasts by e-mail! 
>>>
>>>>>>Subscribe to our mailing list by sending an e-mail message to:
>>>>>>ADVlist@ListServe.com which contains the 
>>>>>>word _subscribe_ as the subject of your message.
>>>>>> You may also get them from our FTP site at: ftp://natvan.com 
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>Revenue Canada Taxation - Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>>>>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>>>>>Canada!!!
>>>
>>>>>show us where Nizkor has ever claimed to have one.
>>>
>>>>All you need do, is read above, or get your orderly to read for you.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Just print this form, and send a money order for $25, and see whether
>>>>>or not you get a valid tax receipt in return.... and see if it comes
>>>>>from anthing called "Nizkor," or claims that it would... won't that be
>>>>>fun, Bill? If you don't get that valid reciept, well geewhilikers,
>>>>>you've got me, eh?
>>>
>>>>>Please print this form and send to: 
>>>>>The Nizkor Project 
>>>>>c/o 
>>>>>The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada 
>>>>>xxxxxx Street 
>>>>>Toronto, Ontario  
>>>
>>>>>Name:________________________________________ 
>>>>>Street Address:________________________________________________ 
>>>>>City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______ 
>>>>>E-Mail Address:_________________________________ 
>>>>>Amount Enclosed: $___________ 
>>>
>>>>>Please make your donations payable to "The League for Human Rights of
>>>>>B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the
>>>>>cheque's memo section. 
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
>>>>>[#0235903-43-13] 
>>>
>>>



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>On Wed, 11 Nov 1998 15:24:40 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>>On Sun, 19 Jul 1998 22:06:50 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>>>On 1 May 1998 13:08:00 +0200, Irmin@nsm.htp.org wrote:
>
>>>>American Dissident Voices Broadcast of April 25, 1998
>>>>
>>>>Katyn
>>>>by Dr. William Pierce
>>>>
>>>>A background noise that seems never to go away is the constant 
>>>>whining and yammering of the Jews about how the world owes them a 
>>>>living because of their losses during the so-called "Holocaust." 
>>>>They do it, of course, because they make such a big profit on it. 
>>>>The latest flare-up of this Jewish play for a handout came more 
>>>>than a year ago when they began demanding that the Swiss pay them 
>>>>$7 billion, which "Holocaust" victims allegedly had stashed in 
>>>>numbered Swiss accounts before being hauled off to gas chambers 
>>>>during the Second World War.
>>>>
>>>>With a few "bought" Gentile politicians fronting for them, the 
>>>>foremost among these being New York's Senator Alphonse D'Amato, 
>>>>the Jews threatened Switzerland with a boycott by the U.S. 
>>>>government if their demands were not met. Instead of laughing in 
>>>>their faces, telling the Jews to go to hell, and gearing up for 
>>>>countermeasures against Israel and other Jewish interests if the 
>>>>Jews tried to proceed with a boycott, the Swiss politicians tried 
>>>>to placate the Jews by offering to buy themoff. The Jews took the 
>>>>Swiss response as a sign of weakness and escalated their demands.
>>>>
>>>>The average Swiss citizen seems to have a little more pride than
>>>>Switzerland's elected officials, however, and resentment against 
>>>>the Jews' extortion efforts is building in Switzerland now to the 
>>>>point that some of that country's richest Jews are wearing 
>>>>bulletproof vests whenever they must go out in public.
>>>>
>>>>In general, however, this "Holocaust"-based extortion racket 
>>>>works quite well for the Jews, and they have expanded their 
>>>>demands for World War Two reparations to include a number of 
>>>>other countries besides Switzerland. They are even whining that 
>>>>the Vatican owes them because Pope Pius XII didn't do enough to 
>>>>save them from the Germans during the war. The Jews' brazenness 
>>>>in this whole business is quite breathtaking.
>>>>
>>>>Their brazenness, of course, is justified, because by and large 
>>>>they have been getting away with it. And they have been getting 
>>>>away with it because with their media control they have been able 
>>>>to distort the general public's whole perception of what happened 
>>>>during the Second World War. They have been able to portray 
>>>>themselves as innocent victims and just about everyone else as 
>>>>persecutors and aggressors, even the people who were fighting on 
>>>>the Jewish side against the Germans during the war. For example, 
>>>>they have done quite a bit of whining that after the Red Army 
>>>>drove the Germans from Poland, the Poles took the opportunity to 
>>>>lynch hundreds of Jews in 1945 and 1946: Jews whom the Germans 
>>>>somehow had failed to get rid of during their wartime occupation
>>>>of Poland.
>>>>
>>>>Now, why would the Poles do something like that? Why would they 
>>>>lynch the poor Jews, who had been on their side during the war? 
>>>>If you learned about the war from watching Steven Spielberg 
>>>>propaganda films and other mass-media sources, you probably 
>>>>believe that it was because of religious anti-Semitism on the 
>>>>part of the Catholic Poles. Let me tell you the real reason why 
>>>>so many Poles hated Jews after the war. It's something the 
>>>>Jew-controlled media in America have tried hard to keep covered 
>>>>up. Let me tell you about what happened in the Katyn forest
>>>>in 1940.
>>>>
>>>>In September 1939 Poland was invaded from the west by Germany and 
>>>>from the east by the Soviet Union. The Germans wanted back the 
>>>>territory in western Poland, including the city of Danzig, which 
>>>>had been taken from them at the end of the First World War. The 
>>>>Soviets wanted eastern Poland. The Germans and the Soviets 
>>>>divided Poland between them, with the boundary running roughly 
>>>>along the River Bug.
>>>>
>>>>Britain and France, both under strong Jewish pressure, declared 
>>>>war on Germany in September 1939, ostensibly because of Germany's 
>>>>invasion of Poland. They did not declare war on the Soviet Union, 
>>>>which also had invaded Poland. In the United States and in 
>>>>western Europe, where the Jews held a deathgrip on the mass 
>>>>media, a great deal of anti-German propaganda was based on the 
>>>>German grab for Polish territory -- much of which, of course, 
>>>>actually was historically German territory -- and nothing was 
>>>>said of the Soviet occupation and annexation of eastern Poland.
>>>>
>>>>The reason for this anti-German and pro-Soviet bias by the Jewish 
>>>>media was that the Jews were riding high in the Soviet Union as 
>>>>commissars and communist party bosses under Stalin, while in 
>>>>Germany Hitler had undertaken a program since 1933 of freeing 
>>>>Germany from all Jewish influence. Jews had been weeded out of 
>>>>the media, the law, the schools, and other areas of economic and 
>>>>cultural life in Germany. Before Hitler became chancellor in 1933 
>>>>the Jews had done in Germany what they do in every country where 
>>>>they gain a foothold: they had monopolized large sections of the 
>>>>mass media and certain professions and were doing their best to 
>>>>distort German culture, German society, and the German economy
>>>>to suit themselves. Hitler put a stop to that, and two-thirds of 
>>>>the 1933 Jewish population of Germany had emigrated by the 
>>>>invasion of Poland in September 1939. So the Jews hated Germany 
>>>>and were determined to do whatever they could to destroy her.
>>>>
>>>>For his part, Hitler hoped to avoid war with Britain and France. 
>>>>He hoped that after his quick victory in western Poland he could 
>>>>make peace with Britain and France. He was determined, however, 
>>>>to stamp out communism wherever he encountered it. Not only did 
>>>>he hate communism on ideological grounds, but he had sworn to 
>>>>fight communism when the communists in Germany betrayed his 
>>>>country at the end of the First World War. Hitler also saw the 
>>>>Soviet Union as a threat to all of Europe, and he was determined 
>>>>to break the power of that country when he could, even though 
>>>>there was an uneasy non-aggression pact between Germany and the
>>>>Soviet Union in 1939, at the time of their partition of Poland.
>>>>
>>>>In the spring of 1941 massive troop movements and other 
>>>>developments inside the Soviet Union convinced Hitler that Stalin 
>>>>was preparing to invade the west with the Red Army, and so in 
>>>>June 1941 Hitler made a preemptive strike. German forces smashed 
>>>>through the Red Army and made rapid advances, first through 
>>>>Soviet-occupied eastern Poland and then through Ukraine and into 
>>>>Russia.
>>>>
>>>>A year and a half later, in February 1943, German forces near 
>>>>Smolensk, in western Russia, investigated reports they heard from 
>>>>Russian civilians to the effect that a large number of prisoners 
>>>>had been murdered by the Soviet secret police in the area nearly 
>>>>three years earlier. The German investigators were led by local 
>>>>Russians to a series of mounds in a wooded area known locally as 
>>>>Katyn Forest, about 10 miles west of Smolensk. The forest is 
>>>>named for a village, Katyn, which it surrounds. The forest had 
>>>>been privately owned prior to the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917, 
>>>>but after the communist takeover of Russia the area had been 
>>>>confiscated by the government and part of the forest had been
>>>>turned over to the NKVD, the Soviet equivalent of the American 
>>>>FBI.
>>>>
>>>>The Germans began digging in the mounds in the Katyn forest and 
>>>>made a horrible discovery. They found corpse after corpse, each 
>>>>with its hands bound behind its back and a bullet hole in the 
>>>>base of its skull. They continued their excavations for more than 
>>>>a month, and eventually uncovered more than 4,000 corpses. Other 
>>>>bodies may have remained buried in other mounds, but the Germans 
>>>>had no time to dig up the whole forest. Instead they called in 
>>>>the International Red Cross and representatives of various 
>>>>neutral countries to examine their findings. They also brought in 
>>>>groups of Allied prisoners of war, including Americans, from
>>>>prison camps in Germany to view the graves in the Katyn forest. 
>>>>They gave these international inspectors complete freedom to 
>>>>examine the exhumed bodies, permitted doctors among them to 
>>>>conduct autopsies, even allowed them to dig up other bodies from 
>>>>one of the mounds which had not been completely excavated. The 
>>>>Germans asked only that the inspectors report back truthfully to 
>>>>their own governments about their observations. And in fact, most 
>>>>of them did.
>>>>
>>>>What they reported was that the bodies were those of Polish 
>>>>military officers, along with a number of civilian cultural and 
>>>>business leaders and intellectuals -- scientists, writers, poets 
>>>>-- who had been in the portion of Poland occupied by the Soviet 
>>>>Union in September 1939. Altogether the Soviet secret police had 
>>>>rounded up some 15,000 Polish leaders in 1939 -- including nearly 
>>>>half of the entire Polish officer's corps, the half that had had 
>>>>the misfortune of being in eastern Poland at the time -- and put 
>>>>them in three concentration camps in Russia: at Starobelsk, 
>>>>Kozelsk, and Ostashkov. All of the bodies unearthed in the
>>>>Katyn forest were of Polish leaders who had been confined at one 
>>>>of these camps: Starobelsk.
>>>>
>>>>Rounding up a country's leaders and killing them was standard 
>>>>practice for the communists. The theory was that the leaders were 
>>>>bourgeois oppressors of the working class and deserved to die. As 
>>>>egalitarians the communists did not regard the Polish officers 
>>>>and intellectuals as inherently better or more valuable human 
>>>>material than the average Polish criminal or welfare bum; the 
>>>>officers had simply used their class advantage to gain a better 
>>>>life-style for themselves. Of course, no one really believed that 
>>>>theory except the criminals and welfare bums and other resentful 
>>>>losers and ne'er-do-wells who made up the natural communist 
>>>>constituency. As a practical matter, however, killing all the
>>>>leaders and potential leaders of a conquered people made them 
>>>>easier to govern. That's what the Marxists had done in Russia, 
>>>>Ukraine, and the Baltic countries.
>>>>
>>>>In the case of the Poles there was a bit of a diplomatic problem,
>>>>though. The Poles supported the war Britain and France had 
>>>>declared against Germany, purportedly on their behalf, because 
>>>>they viewed that as their one hope for getting back at least the 
>>>>western part of their country. They were not happy about the 
>>>>Russians taking the eastern part of Poland, but the Russians at 
>>>>least were fellow Slavs. The thing to do was get rid of the 
>>>>Germans first and then worry about the Russians. This Polish 
>>>>strategy suited Stalin fine. But it made it desirable for him to
>>>>avoid alienating the Poles any more than necessary. When Polish 
>>>>exiles asked about their imprisoned leaders in late 1939 and 
>>>>early 1940, the Soviet government promised that they would be 
>>>>released shortly. Meanwhile, the decision had been made to kill 
>>>>all of them. And so in April 1940 the Polish leaders were taken 
>>>>from the three camps where they had been imprisoned, trucked off 
>>>>to various liquidation sites, and murdered. The ones who had been 
>>>>imprisoned at Starobelsk all went to the NKVD area of the Katyn 
>>>>forest. After the war some of the NKVD executioners were 
>>>>interviewed in Israel and described how they had carried out the 
>>>>killings.
>>>>
>>>>The Poles were driven up to the burial pits in long NKVD prison 
>>>>trucks known as "black ravens." They were pulled from the trucks 
>>>>one at a time by NKVD guards. Each Polish prisoner had his hands 
>>>>bound behind his back and then was dragged to the edge of a pit. 
>>>>There he was held by two NKVD men while a third fired a pistol 
>>>>bullet into the back of his head. Some of the officers had had 
>>>>their coats pulled over their heads to keep them from seeing what 
>>>>was happening before they were shot. Some struggled and were 
>>>>bayonetted by NKVD guards before being shot and thrown into the
>>>>pit. When all of the officers from Starobelsk had been killed, 
>>>>some 4,400 of them, the Katyn forest burial pits were covered 
>>>>with dirt and pine trees were planted on them. The locations of 
>>>>the mass graves of the prisoners from the camps at Kozelsk and 
>>>>Ostashkov remain unknown, but none of the 15,000 Polish officers 
>>>>and intellectuals rounded up by the NKVD in September 1939 was 
>>>>seen alive after April 1940.
>>>>
>>>>The Red Cross representatives and the Allied prisoners the 
>>>>Germans brought in to examine the mass graves in the Katyn forest 
>>>>understood after their examination not only who had been killed; 
>>>>they also understood who had killed them. This was apparent not 
>>>>only from the medical estimates of the length of time the bodies 
>>>>had been buried, but also from documentary evidence on the 
>>>>bodies. Diaries, news clippings, letters, and other personal 
>>>>papers removed from the clothing of the victims all told the same 
>>>>story: the latest dates on any of these papers were from 
>>>>mid-April 1940. The Polish leaders had been killed in April 1940, 
>>>>when they were prisoners of the Soviet Union and when the Katyn
>>>>region was under Soviet control. And this is what they reported 
>>>>back to their governments.
>>>>
>>>>So what do you think happened? Were the British and American 
>>>>governments horrified to discover that their "gallant Soviet 
>>>>ally," as the Soviet Union was referred to by the mass media, was 
>>>>a mass murderer? Did the British government, which had gone to 
>>>>war against Germany under the pretext of defending Poland, decide 
>>>>that it had made a mistake? Did anyone condemn the Soviet Union 
>>>>for this act of genocide against the Poles?
>>>>
>>>>Of course not! The Allied governments ordered their people who 
>>>>had inspected the Katyn site to keep their mouths shut, and the 
>>>>Jewish media immediately began announcing that the Germans had 
>>>>done it. A mass murder of Polish officers and intellectuals by 
>>>>the Nazis had been discovered in the Katyn forest, the New York 
>>>>Times and the rest of the Jewish media shrieked. Poor Poles! 
>>>>Wicked Germans! The war must go on to free the poor Poles and 
>>>>punish the wicked Germans. And the war did go on, killing
>>>>millions of more Germans, British, Americans, and other 
>>>>Europeans. And the Germans were indeed punished. The Poles, of 
>>>>course, were not freed. Instead they were turned over to the 
>>>>Reds, who had butchered their leaders in the Katyn forest, and 
>>>>made to suffer under communist rule for half a century.
>>>>
>>>>The war went on after the German discovery of the mass graves in 
>>>>the Katyn forest, because its purpose from the beginning was not 
>>>>to free Poland but to destroy Germany, which had dared to free 
>>>>itself from the Jews. Roosevelt understood this. Churchill 
>>>>understood this. But the American and British people didn't 
>>>>understand it, of course, because they were lied to by the Jewish 
>>>>media and by their own governments, who in 1943 as in 1998 have 
>>>>done whatever has been politically expedient. And what has been 
>>>>politically expedient has been what the Jewish media bosses have 
>>>>decided.
>>>>
>>>>The lies about Katyn were maintained by the media for some years 
>>>>after the end of the war, because these lies meshed nicely with 
>>>>the "Holocaust" story which was making so much money for the 
>>>>Jews. Nowadays, of course, the truth about the Katyn murders is 
>>>>generally accepted by historians everywhere. You can go into 
>>>>almost any large library and read about it and even see the 
>>>>gruesome photographs that the Germans took of the Polish bodies 
>>>>they dug up. One of several authoritative books on the subject is 
>>>>J.K. Zawodny's Death in the Forest: the Story of the Katyn
>>>>Forest Massacre, published in 1962 by the University of Notre 
>>>>Dame Press. None of this is publicized a la Steven Spielberg, of 
>>>>course, for the illumination of American television audiences. It 
>>>>still might undermine the Jews' "Holocaust" racket.
>>>>
>>>>In 1945 and 1946, although the deceived citizens of the western 
>>>>world didn't know the truth about Katyn, Polish patriots did. The 
>>>>word had gotten back to the Polish prisoners in German camps from 
>>>>the Poles the Germans had taken to examine the graves. After the 
>>>>war, when these Polish prisoners were freed, the word spread to 
>>>>other Poles. They knew that it was the communists, not the Nazis, 
>>>>who had murdered their leaders, who had beheaded their nation. 
>>>>And they knew who was behind communism, from the Jew Karl Marx, 
>>>>who had started the whole business, up to the Jewish commissars 
>>>>who lorded it over them in Soviet-occupied Poland. They knew who 
>>>>had welcomed their Soviet conquerors and then collaborated with 
>>>>those conquerors. And so it is hardly surprising that in 1945 and 
>>>>1946 a few Polish patriots organized lynchings of Jews in Poland, 
>>>>before the Reds had a chance to clamp down on all of Poland and
>>>>suppress any further expressions of anti-communist or anti-Jewish
>>>>feeling.
>>>>
>>>>No, the Polish dislike of Jews isn't surprising. What is 
>>>>surprising is that so few patriots in America and Britain have 
>>>>expressed their outrage against the Jews, not only for what they 
>>>>did to the Poles during and after the war, but for what they have 
>>>>done to us: lying to us and using us to wage their wars for them. 
>>>>If patriots study the Katyn story and take its lesson to heart, 
>>>>they will understand why they cannot trust either the mass media 
>>>>or any government which dances to the tune played by the media. 
>>>>Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill were as much liars and 
>>>>traitors as Bill Clinton and Tony Blair.
>>>>
>>>>Anyway, you might remember Katyn the next time you hear the Jews 
>>>>or some of their bought politicians whining about how much gold 
>>>>was stolen from them by the Swiss or how badly the Poles and the 
>>>>Germans treated them during the Second World War.
>>>>
>>>>The text above is based on a broadcast of the American Dissident
>>>>Voices radio program sponsored by National Vanguard Books. To 
>>>>receive weekly ADV transcripts, mail: ADVlist@ListServe.com 
>>>>Write "subscribe" as the subject of your message. 
>>>>
>>>>++++++++++++++
>>>>
>>>>American Renaissance
>>>>http://www.amren.com
>>>>
>>>>Campaign for Radical Truth in History
>>>>http://www.hoffman-info.com
>>>>
>>>>Euro-American Students Union
>>>>http://esu.simplenet.com
>>>>
>>>>Katja Lane's Fourteen Word Press
>>>>http://www.14words.com
>>>>
>>>>National Alliance
>>>>http://www.natvan.com
>>>>
>>>>Stormfront
>>>>http://www.stormfront.org
>>>>
>>>>Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library
>>>>http://www.ddc.net/ygg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>



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On Mon, 09 Nov 1998 17:37:52 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Fri, 06 Nov 1998 15:04:09 GMT, golem88@gehenna.org wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 03 Nov 1998 20:13:38 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>>wrote:
>>
>>>>>On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:18:46 GMT, koyvay@nazikor.orgy wrote:
>>>>>>On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:52:01 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Notice that the gas station employee,according to an interview a week
>>>>>>>ago in local papers, McVay refuses to answer the questions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>>>>>>>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>>>>>>>because of the heat from the authorities!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, nationalist@juno.com (Michael )
>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>>>>>>>>>> will not answer the critical questions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Nothing new here.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>>>>>>>>>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>>>>>>>>>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>>>>>>>>>> it is NOT!!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Definitely not a charity.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won't Answer!!!!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>>>>>>>>>> answer??
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Is it really an international tax fraud?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> What have the I.R.S. to say??
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>>>>>>>>>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>>>>>>>>>> who can be reached at:
>>>>>>>>>>         http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>>>>>>>>>         webmaster@rc.gc.ca
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won't Answer is:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997  00:14:06 GMT
>>>>>>>>>> >From: Doctor detroit (Adjust@chiropractor.com)
>>>>>>>>>> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>>>>>>>>>> >Subject: to repeat the questions
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       1)      What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy's case it is the Order of British Columbia.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       2)      What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
>>>>>>>>>> >               letters?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>>>>>>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>>>>>>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>>>>>>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       3)      What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       4)      What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Probably written on McGoy's forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>>>>>>>Brith's butt.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>>>>>>>>>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       5)      What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       6)      Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>>>>>>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       7)      What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
>>>>>>>>>> >               solicit tax free contributions?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone "contributes" more than $10 that Bnai
>>>>>>>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>>>>>>>Canadian dollars. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
>>>>>>>>>> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
>>>>>>>>>> >OyVey???
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It's a reasonable assumption.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism dleonik@accesscomm.net
>>>>>>>>>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Check this out!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>>>>>>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken's "Big Lie"
>>>>>>>>letter just ask.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Nizkor Funding
>>>>>>>>>> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>>>>>>>>>> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>>>>>>>>>> >of B'nai Brith Canada ...with the cheque's memo including "Nizkor
>>>>>>>>>> >Project". ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>>>>>>>>>> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
>>>>>>>>>> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>>>>>>>>>> >Excite Search---Search: "nizkor"
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >"From B'nai Brith's 1996 'Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents':
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>  The League is working closely
>>>>>>>>>> >with Ken McVay's Nizkor Project (http://www.nizkor.org) through the
>>>>>>>>>> >"Holocaust and Hope" program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>>>>>>>>> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>>>>>>>>> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic.  The creation of a
>>>>>>>>>> >B'nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>>>>>>>>> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>>>>>>>>> >incidents directly to the National Office."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
>>>>>>>>>> >promote Jewish interests. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>That is putting it "lightly".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >If any of them are White Americans then they
>>>>>>>>>> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
>>>>>>>>>> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky's book "By Way of
>>>>>>>>Deception". Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>>>>>>>the Nizkooks are up to.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >The Hoax of the Century, even if real, has nothing to do with America,
>>>>>>>>>> >nor should we feel obligated to compensate Jews with 'loan' grants or
>>>>>>>>>> >even give them one second of our time watching their stupid hoax
>>>>>>>>>> >dramatizations.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Nizkor and Hollywood are both just two tentacles grasping and clawing
>>>>>>>>>> >their way into White America's good nature and generousity.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >NO MORE!  The Jews should pay back the $77 billion dollars plus
>>>>>>>>>> >interest immediately, and the Nizkor abomination should be shut down
>>>>>>>>>> >and the nonJewish elements tried for high treason.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >You too can be apart of this great reckoning.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>nationalist@juno.com
>>>>>>>>"http://www.natall.com"
>>>>>>>>"http://www.natvan.com"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>National Vanguard Books
>>>>>>>>P.O. Box 330
>>>>>>>>Hillsboro, WV   24946
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"No man has come to true greatness who has not felt
>>>>>>>>in some degree that his life belongs to his race."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                                ----Phillips Brooks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>+++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Get the text of American Dissident Voices broadcasts by e-mail! 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Subscribe to our mailing list by sending an e-mail message to:
>>>>>>>>ADVlist@ListServe.com which contains the 
>>>>>>>>word _subscribe_ as the subject of your message.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You may also get them from our FTP site at: ftp://natvan.com 
>>>>>>sven88



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On 31 Dec 1998 12:59:19 -0800, kmcvay (Ken McVay) wrote:


>>IF IT IS "ILLEGAL" AS YOU CLAIM,  under the Criminal Code, why is the
>>Jew Rabbi not charged??

>"The only cure for faggots is instant cremation!!!"

>"To completely eliminate AIDS, just get rid of all the disease-ridden 
>faggots - preferably by instant immolation." 

>"As a consequence, to eliminate AIDS, one should start by 
>eliminating,permanently, those responsible for the spread of AIDS - 
>the faggots." (Ibid.)



On Sat, 26 Dec 1998 19:04:05 GMT, kenmaggot@nazikor.niz.org wrote:

>In a move sure to anger orthodox Jews, as well as normal humans, newspapers
>across Canada report that a Winnipeg synagogue will perform marriages
>of same sex persons.

>This, even though there is no law in Canada permitting this!!!

>Rabbi Michael  Levenson of Temple Shalom admits that his actions are
>illegal. 


If his actions are illegal, why don't the authorities send him to
jail??


>He is quoted as saying that his ceremonies will be recognised
>from a religious point of view, not a political one. Levenson alleges
>that members of his temple supposedly supported his action.  However,
>even normal Jews are criticising this action. It seems that what this
>Jew is doing, is NOT acceptable, according to the Torah.


No wonder people think of the jews as mainly sodomites.



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On Mon, 09 Nov 1998 17:37:52 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Fri, 06 Nov 1998 15:04:09 GMT, golem88@gehenna.org wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 03 Nov 1998 20:13:38 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>>wrote:
>>
>>>>>On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:18:46 GMT, koyvay@nazikor.orgy wrote:
>>>>>>On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:52:01 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Notice that the gas station employee,according to an interview a week
>>>>>>>ago in local papers, McVay refuses to answer the questions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>>>>>>>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>>>>>>>because of the heat from the authorities!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, nationalist@juno.com (Michael )
>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>>>>>>>>>> will not answer the critical questions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Nothing new here.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>>>>>>>>>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>>>>>>>>>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>>>>>>>>>> it is NOT!!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Definitely not a charity.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won't Answer!!!!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>>>>>>>>>> answer??
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Is it really an international tax fraud?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> What have the I.R.S. to say??
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>>>>>>>>>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>>>>>>>>>> who can be reached at:
>>>>>>>>>>         http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>>>>>>>>>         webmaster@rc.gc.ca
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won't Answer is:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997  00:14:06 GMT
>>>>>>>>>> >From: Doctor detroit (Adjust@chiropractor.com)
>>>>>>>>>> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>>>>>>>>>> >Subject: to repeat the questions
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       1)      What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy's case it is the Order of British Columbia.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       2)      What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
>>>>>>>>>> >               letters?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>>>>>>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>>>>>>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>>>>>>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       3)      What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       4)      What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Probably written on McGoy's forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>>>>>>>Brith's butt.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>>>>>>>>>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       5)      What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       6)      Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>>>>>>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       7)      What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
>>>>>>>>>> >               solicit tax free contributions?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone "contributes" more than $10 that Bnai
>>>>>>>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>>>>>>>Canadian dollars. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
>>>>>>>>>> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
>>>>>>>>>> >OyVey???
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It's a reasonable assumption.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism dleonik@accesscomm.net
>>>>>>>>>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Check this out!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>>>>>>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken's "Big Lie"
>>>>>>>>letter just ask.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Nizkor Funding
>>>>>>>>>> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>>>>>>>>>> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>>>>>>>>>> >of B'nai Brith Canada ...with the cheque's memo including "Nizkor
>>>>>>>>>> >Project". ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>>>>>>>>>> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
>>>>>>>>>> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>>>>>>>>>> >Excite Search---Search: "nizkor"
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >"From B'nai Brith's 1996 'Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents':
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>  The League is working closely
>>>>>>>>>> >with Ken McVay's Nizkor Project (http://www.nizkor.org) through the
>>>>>>>>>> >"Holocaust and Hope" program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>>>>>>>>> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>>>>>>>>> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic.  The creation of a
>>>>>>>>>> >B'nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>>>>>>>>> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>>>>>>>>> >incidents directly to the National Office."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
>>>>>>>>>> >promote Jewish interests. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>That is putting it "lightly".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >If any of them are White Americans then they
>>>>>>>>>> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
>>>>>>>>>> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky's book "By Way of
>>>>>>>>Deception". Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>>>>>>>the Nizkooks are up to.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >The Hoax of the Century, even if real, has nothing to do with America,
>>>>>>>>>> >nor should we feel obligated to compensate Jews with 'loan' grants or
>>>>>>>>>> >even give them one second of our time watching their stupid hoax
>>>>>>>>>> >dramatizations.
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>>>>>>>> 
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On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:02:36 GMT, kenoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>On Wed, 16 Sep 1998 15:16:05 GMT, bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote:
>>On Mon, 29 Sep 1997 01:42:58 GMT, someone@somewhere.com wrote:

>>>And don't forget the murders of the British, such as in the King david
>>>Hotel, by the IRGUN and Stern Gang, involving this great zionist
>>>gangster!!!


>>>On Sun, 28 Sep 1997 18:30:30 -0700, Clancy
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Memorandum on Yitzhak Rabin's participation in war crimes
>>>>
>>>>By Elias Davidsson, Reykjav_k, Iceland October 1992. Revisions in December
>>>>1992 and December 1994
>>>>
>>>>A number of Member States of the United Nations have declared their
>>>>interest and support for the establishment of an International Criminal
>>>>Court under United Nations auspices to deal with international crimes such
>>>>as war crimes and crimes against humanity. A Special Court to deal with War
>>>>Crimes committed in ex-Yugoslavia has been established under UN auspices
>>>>and has began functioning. There have also been calls by non-governmental
>>>>organisations and eminent citizens for the trial of individual leaders,
>>>>such as Saddam Hussein, Pol Pot, George Bush and John Major, for their
>>>>alleged participation in war crimes. More and more people recognize the
>>>>importance of holding individual public leaders responsible for their deeds
>>>>and failings, not only politically and morally, but also legally.
>>>>International law provides some opportunities in this direction, which have
>>>>not been used yet.
>>>>
>>>>Such opportunity presents itself in the Geneva Conventions of 12 August
>>>>1949. By signing these Conventions, each Signatory State undertook "to
>>>>search for persons alleged to have committed, or to have ordered to be
>>>>committed, [such] grave breaches, and [shall] bring such persons,
>>>>regardless of their nationality, before its own courts." A Signatory may
>>>>also avail itself of the possibility, under certain conditions, of handing
>>>>such persons to another Signatory State for trial.
>>>>
>>>>Since the Nurnberg and Tokyo trials in which the leading World War II
>>>>criminals were tried, no judicial body of any country has been willing to
>>>>initiate legal measures for the apprehension and trial of the world's
>>>>leading war criminals, in spite of States' legal obligations to do so.
>>>>States, including those claiming to support human rights, shield leading
>>>>war criminals from prosecution or provide them with shelter. Individuals
>>>>such as Pol Pot of Kampuchea, Saddam Hussein of Iraq, Assad of Syria,
>>>>Pinochet of Chile and Mobutu of Zaire, are often, and justifiably, labelled
>>>>as enemies of Mankind. But none of them has ever been formally charged by
>>>>any Signatory of the Geneva Conventions, in spite of ample evidence of
>>>>their responsibility for international crimes. Other gross human right
>>>>violators (such as the leaders of Haiti) have been offered shelter in third
>>>>countries where they escape prosecution.
>>>>
>>>>The Israeli-Arab conflict, or more correctly the Zionist- Palestinian
>>>>conflict, has lasted for almost a century. In the course of this conflict,
>>>>many acts of violence were committed by both sides. But not every act of
>>>>violence committed in an international conflict is defined in international
>>>>law as a war crime or a crime against humanity. The difference lies both in
>>>>the nature of the crime, its extent, whether it is systematic or sporadic
>>>>and whether violence was committed against non-combatants, to name a few
>>>>criteria. Only the most odious crimes are considered as offences against
>>>>Mankind, which all states, individually and collectively, are required to
>>>>repress. The Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 and their Additional
>>>>Protocols of 1977, provide a list of such crimes.
>>>>
>>>>The present memorandum provides evidence about the responsibility of Mr.
>>>>Yitzhak Rabin, Israeli national and current Prime Minister of the State of
>>>>Israel, for acts committed under his orders and which are defined in the
>>>>Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 and their Additional Protocol I of
>>>>1977, as 'grave breaches', the technical term for war crimes. The
>>>>memorandum includes also a preliminary legal discussion about the acts in
>>>>question, the responsibility of Mr. Rabin and the duties of states to
>>>>prosecute.
>>>>
>>>> 1. Mr. Rabin Was Responsible for Ethnical Cleaning / Deportation in 1948
>>>>
>>>>On 12 July 1948, Lt. Colonel Yitzhak Rabin, Chief of Operations Operation
>>>>Dani, issued the following order to Yiftah Brigade headquarters:
>>>>
>>>>"1. The inhabitants of Lydda must be expelled quickly without attention to
>>>>age. They should be directed towards Beit Nabala. Yiftah [Brigade
>>>>headquarters] must determine the method and inform [Operation] Dani HQ and
>>>>8th Brigade HQ. 2. Implement immediately." The order was signed "Yitzhak
>>>>R[abin]."
>>>>
>>>>The implementation of this order is described in the authoritative book
>>>>"The birth of the Palestinian refugee problem, 1947-1949" by Israeli
>>>>historian Benny Morris (Cambridge University Press, 1987) [pages 207-210]
>>>>and more in detail in Michael Palumbo's book "The Palestinian catastrophe:
>>>>The 1948 expulsion of a people from their homeland", Quartet Books,
>>>>London/New York, 1987 [Chapter VIII: The Lydda Death March].
>>>>
>>>>These publications offer further evidence about Mr. Rabin's implication in
>>>>this event. The authors estimate that approx. 50.000 civilians (Arabs) were
>>>>expelled from Lydda and Ramleh under Mr. Rabin's orders. As a prelude to
>>>>the flight hundreds of civilians were killed by Israeli soldiers. Many more
>>>>died in the ensuing `march to exile'. Although Zionist leaders claimed that
>>>>the expulsions were based on military necessity, the fact that the refugees
>>>>were not allowed to return and declarations by Zionist leaders about the
>>>>necessity to reduce the number of Arabs in the incumbent Jewish state lend
>>>>credence to the claim (by Palestinians) that the expulsions were part of a
>>>>planned 'transfer' policy by the Zionist authorities, in other words a
>>>>master plan of "ethnical cleansing".
>>>>
>>>>The deportation of civilians constitutes a Crime against Humanity under
>>>>Article 6(c) of the Nnrnberg Charter and a grave breach of the Fourth
>>>>Geneva Convention of 12 August 1949, as specified in Article 147 thereof.
>>>>The unjustifiable delay in the repatriation of the inhabitants of Lydda and
>>>>Ramleh (who have never been allowed to return) constitutes a grave breach
>>>>of the First Additional Protocol to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August
>>>>1949 (article 85.4).
>>>>
>>>>Article 85.5 of the First Additional Protocol to the Geneva Conventions of
>>>>12 August 1949 specifically refers to grave breaches as 'war crimes'.
>>>>
>>>>2. Mr Rabin Ordered in 1967 the Destruction of 3 Villages and the Expulsion
>>>>                            of their Inhabitants
>>>>
>>>>In the 1967 war between Israel and Jordan, Yitzhak Rabin was Chief of Staff
>>>>of the Israeli Defence Forces. In this short war some 5.000 inhabitants
>>>>from three villages in the Latrun triangle between Tel Aviv and Jerusalem
>>>>(Emwas, Beit Nuba and Yalou) were expelled by the Israeli army and their
>>>>villages totally destroyed. An Israeli soldier, Amos Kenan, who took part
>>>>in the expulsions, described these acts in a report sent to all Israeli
>>>>Members of Parliament. According to press reports, including one in
>>>>Jerusalem Post of 24 October 1991, Mr. Yitzhak Rabin admitted in Canadian
>>>>TV having given the order to destroy the villages. The inhabitants of these
>>>>villages were never allowed to return and rebuilt their village nor bury
>>>>their dead in the lands of their former village.
>>>>
>>>>The deportation of civilians constitutes a Crime against Humanity under
>>>>Article 6(c) of the Nnrnberg Charter and a grave breach of the Fourth
>>>>Geneva Convention of 12 August 1949, as specified in Article 147 thereof.
>>>>The unjustifiable delay in the repatriation of the inhabitants of the above
>>>>three villages constitutes a grave breach of the First Additional Protocol
>>>>to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 (article 85.4).
>>>>
>>>>In addition, the Geneva Conventions as well as their additional protocols
>>>>prohibit "at any time and in any place whatsoever....collective
>>>>punishments". It seems that the destruction of these villages - every
>>>>single house in them - constitutes 'collective punishment' within the
>>>>meaning of the Conventions.
>>>>
>>>>    3. Mr Rabin Urged Israeli Soldiers to Break the Bones of Palestinian
>>>>                                 Youngsters
>>>>
>>>>In mid-January 1988, Mr. Rabin, then Israeli Defense Minister, announced a
>>>>policy to restore order in the Occupied Territories by "force, might,
>>>>beatings". More specifically, he urged Israeli soldiers to summarily (and
>>>>viciously) beat Palestinian demonstrators. Israeli soldiers implemented
>>>>this policy, breaking the hands or arms of many demonstrators with
>>>>methodically directed blows, using sticks and stones. In some cases,
>>>>Palestinian youngsters were rounded up from their homes, brought to remote
>>>>areas, and there, while a couple of soldiers held them, had their bones
>>>>smashed. The international outrage called forth by a 40- minute long
>>>>TV-film secretly shot, and showing how Israeli soldiers smash the bones of
>>>>a Palestinian youth, compelled the Israeli government to halt these
>>>>extra-judicial and inhuman punishments.
>>>>
>>>>Israeli soldiers, charged for using excessive force and brought to trial in
>>>>Israel, have testified that the orders for these practices originated from
>>>>above, including from Yitzhak Rabin. Although the Israeli press published
>>>>numerous testimonies, which all mention Mr. Rabin as the instigator of
>>>>these practices (i.e. Ha'aretz, 9. April, 1. July, 3. July 1990, Jerusalem
>>>>Post of 25 July and 30 June 1992), Mr. Rabin was never asked to testify in
>>>>court. No inquiry was initiated regarding Mr. Rabin's role in these
>>>>policies.
>>>>
>>>>Article 147 of the Fourth Geneva Convention of 12 August 1949, specifies as
>>>>one of the grave breaches (war crimes) "inhuman treatment....wilfully
>>>>causing great suffering or serious injury to body or health". Protocol I
>>>>Additional to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 (1977), lists among
>>>>the acts which remain "prohibited at any time and in any place whatsoever,
>>>>whether committed by civilian or by military agents:": "Violence to
>>>>the....physical or mental well-being of persons, in particular....(iii)
>>>>corporal punishment."
>>>>
>>>>    4. Yitzhak Rabin Ordered in 1993 Indiscriminate Attacks of Civilian
>>>>                       Population Centers in Lebanon
>>>>
>>>>The Sunday Times, 1 August 1993, reported under the heading: Rabin's war:
>>>>"Late yesterday, he [Rabin] called off his personal seven-day war in
>>>>southern Lebanon. (...) Rabin's War - Operation Accountability - has killed
>>>>at least 130 and sent hundreds of thousands of Lebanese fleeing towards
>>>>Beirut. (...) Southern Lebanon had become a land without people.(...) About
>>>>80 villages have been hit.". According to the London-based Middle East
>>>>International (MEI) of 6 August 1993, the "majority of casualties were
>>>>civilians. At least 55 towns and villages were very heavily damaged,
>>>>including Nabatiya, a major regional center with a normal population of
>>>>around 100,000."
>>>>
>>>>According to the editorial of the same issue of MEI, this seven-day
>>>>bombardment of southern Lebanon was "expressly designed (as Mr. Rabin
>>>>himself announced) to render South Lebanon 'uninhabitable' and to create a
>>>>tidal wave of refugees so huge that it would destabilise the government in
>>>>Beirut and bend it to Israel's will (...)"
>>>>
>>>>According to Lebanese government estimates (reported in MEI), "some 400,000
>>>>people - mainly Shi'ite Muslims - fled their homes in panic, with about
>>>>half of them converging on Beirut and its southern suburbs. While some had
>>>>families and friends to go to, others arrived with only the clothes they
>>>>stood in, and had no money to fend for themselves".
>>>>
>>>>Both the Hague Conventions of 1907 and the Additional Protocol I to the
>>>>Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 contain specific provisions that
>>>>prohibit attacks on civilian populations. Thus Additional Protocol I
>>>>specifies as a 'grave breach' (war crime) "making the civilian population
>>>>or individual civilians the object of attack" as well as "launching an
>>>>indiscriminate attack affecting the civilian population or civilian objects
>>>>in the knowledge that such attack will cause excessive loss of life, injury
>>>>to civilians or damage to civilian objects". Further details are provided
>>>>by the Protocols, all of which lead to the conclusion that the Israeli
>>>>attack on South Lebanon constituted a 'grave breach' of international
>>>>humanitarian law. The individual who bears the primary responsibility for
>>>>the Israeli operation against South Lebanon is Yitzhak Rabin, in his double
>>>>capacity as Prime Minister and Minister of Defense.
>>>>
>>>>LEGAL DISCUSSION
>>>>
>>>>There are a number of legal questions that must be settled before charging
>>>>Mr. Rabin for participation in war crimes. Among these questions we can
>>>>mention the following: Are the facts allegedly attributed to Mr. Rabin
>>>>true? Are the sources trustworthy? What is the evidence that Mr. Rabin had
>>>>anything to do with these acts ? Do the acts under consideration constitute
>>>>prosecutable crimes under international law?
>>>>
>>>>Another set of questions would deal with the problems involved in bringing
>>>>a person such as Mr. Rabin to trial. These problems are of a similar nature
>>>>to those encountered today by the UN Tribunal on War Crimes Committed in
>>>>Ex- Yugoslavia. These questions will not be dealt here as they are
>>>>premature. However it is necessary to deal, if only summarily, with a
>>>>widely held opinion, according to which the whole question of the
>>>>prosecution of war criminals is a non-starter, because it is impossible to
>>>>bring the leading war criminals to trial due to their political status or
>>>>their country's sovereignty. Although it is true that in many situations,
>>>>it is impossible to bring about the prosecution and apprehension of the
>>>>leading world war criminals, it is nevertheless of great public utility to
>>>>expose their crimes as widely as possible, isolate such people politically
>>>>and morally and cause small but significant changes of policy. Such
>>>>publicity would at least prevent that war criminals could travel between
>>>>world capitals in total impunity and be feted as peace heroes, as Mr. Rabin
>>>>has been. It might be argued that in some circumstances, an individual
>>>>charged of war crimes, might voluntarily seek due process, either to clean
>>>>his name, or to avoid extra-judicial retribution.
>>>>
>>>>The Authencitiy/Reliabity of the Evidence
>>>>
>>>>In all above cases there has been a wide coverage given by the press and in
>>>>scholarly works to the acts committed. There may be disagreement between
>>>>observers as to the number of victims and to details regarding the conduct
>>>>of hostilities.
>>>>
>>>>In the first two cases (expulsion from Lydda and Ramleh and expulsion from
>>>>the 3 villages around Latrun), there is no controversy about the fact that
>>>>the population of these two towns was expelled. A disagreement persists
>>>>regarding the aim of the expulsion. Israel maintains that the expulsion
>>>>were carried out because of military necessity. From the point of view of
>>>>international humanitarian law, it does not matter why a civil population
>>>>is deported. Such deportations are prohibited in all circumstances and
>>>>constitute war crimes. Furthermore, if it were true that a the expulsions
>>>>were carried out because of military necessity, the expelled would be
>>>>allowed to return to their homes, once the hostilities ended. But Israel
>>>>has not only refused to allow such return but allowed Jewish immigrants
>>>>from other countries to permanently occupy the abandoned houses in Ramleh
>>>>and Lydda and planted a park on the land of the villages destroyed in 1967.
>>>>
>>>>Ample evidence has been published in 1988 in the Israeli press and the
>>>>international press about acts of beatings and breaking of limbs by Israeli
>>>>soldiers. Such evidence includes also visual documentaries, testimonies by
>>>>Israeli soldiers and testimonies of victims. There is no controversy about
>>>>the fact that such acts were carried out.
>>>>
>>>>The last case, regarding the massive attack on South Lebanon, was reported
>>>>in the international press. The effect of the attack was documented in
>>>>great detail, particularly the flight of hundreds of thousands of civilians
>>>>from their homes in South Lebanon and their plight.
>>>>
>>>>Mr. Rabin's Personal Involvement in the Above Acts
>>>>
>>>>As to Mr. Rabin's personal implication in the above acts, this has never
>>>>been questioned by anyone. As quoted above, Mr. Rabin has publicly
>>>>acknowledged to have ordered the commission of the first two actions (1948
>>>>and 1967).
>>>>
>>>>While Mr. Rabin did not yet explicitly admit to have urged Israeli soldiers
>>>>"to break the bones" of Palestinian demonstrators, his declared policy in
>>>>1987/88 to crush the Palestinian uprising by "force, might, beatings" and
>>>>the numerous testimonies in Israeli courts by Israeli IDF personnel
>>>>implicating Mr. Rabin in such punishments appear sufficient to charge him
>>>>of instigating and condoning these acts.
>>>>
>>>>As for the IDF attack on South Lebanon in 1993, it can be assumed that it
>>>>was committed under direct orders from and permission by Israel's Prime
>>>>Minister and Minister of Defense, Mr. Yitzhak Rabin. Although one might
>>>>argue that other Israeli nationals, primarily leaders of the IDF, were
>>>>implicated in this gross violation of international law, this does not
>>>>mitigate Mr. Rabin's primary responsibility for this act.
>>>>
>>>>The Legal Status of the Above Acts under International Law
>>>>
>>>>Some Israeli legal scholars argue that the acts described above cannot be
>>>>described as 'war crimes' as they are grossly different in extent and
>>>>intent from the war crimes committed by the Nazi regime. According to this
>>>>view, only the most outrageous types of 'war crimes', as committed in World
>>>>War II, would qualify for universal juridiction. This narrow interpretation
>>>>of international humanitarian law is widely challenged because in practice
>>>>this would nullify the intent and spirit of the Geneva Conventions. Such
>>>>interpretation would thus be incompatible with the Law of Treaties. The
>>>>International Committee of the Red Cross, who have published the Geneva
>>>>Conventions and their Additional Protocols, have also published
>>>>authoritative and detailed commentaries on specific articles of these
>>>>treaties. These can serve as a source to evaluate the applicability of the
>>>>Conventions to these acts. The fact that the Geneva Conventions have been
>>>>violated with impunity by numerous states, has never been considered by
>>>>legal scholars as a practice diluting the letter and spirit of the
>>>>Conventions.
>>>>
>>>>The Geneva Conventions prohibit deportation both of groups and of
>>>>individuals in all circumstances. The expulsion of 5,000 or 50,000
>>>>civilians from their homes falls clearly under this heading. The Nuremberg
>>>>Principles, on the base of which Nazi war criminals were convicted, define
>>>>the "deportation ... for any ... purpose of civilian population of or in
>>>>occupied territory" as War Crime. These Principles define further the
>>>>"deportation and other inhuman acts done against any civilian
>>>>population....when such acts are done....in connection with any crime
>>>>against peace or any war crime", as Crime against Humanity.
>>>>
>>>>There has been some controversy about the legal nature of exactions
>>>>committed by Israeli soldiers against Palestinian demonstrators,
>>>>particularly the beatings under custody. To beat a person he must be
>>>>already under custody. He thus must first be apprehended and therefore does
>>>>not represent any imminent danger to those detaining him. Any
>>>>extra-judicial attack or punishment upon his person constitutes a gross
>>>>deviation from accepted norms of civilized law (which require the due
>>>>process of law to determine a defendant's culpability and punishment). The
>>>>Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 are not as specific as the Additional
>>>>Protocol I of 1977, which proscribes 'corporal punishment', although not as
>>>>a 'grave breach'. The final legal determination of this offence would have
>>>>to be carried out by experts.
>>>>
>>>>As to the attack on South Lebanon, international law is quite explicit
>>>>about the prohibition of attacking civilian areas. The fact that Hizbullah
>>>>forces launched attacks against Israel from these areas does not relieve
>>>>Israel from the duty to observe the rules of warfare when launching
>>>>retribution. In launching and committing the massive attacks on wide
>>>>populated areas in South Lebanon and causing hundreds of thousands of
>>>>people to flee their homes, the IDF clearly and grossly violated the laws
>>>>of warfare. Article 85, paragraph 3 (a) and (b) of the Additional Protocol
>>>>I to the Geneva Conventions of 1949 specify such attacks among the 'grave
>>>>breaches' (war crimes), if such attacks were committed "wilfully, in
>>>>violation of the relevant provisions of this Protocol, and causing death or
>>>>serious injury to body or health".
>>>>
>>>>Do State Leaders Enjoy Immunity Against Prosecution?
>>>>
>>>>It is generally believed that State leaders are immune from legal
>>>>prosecution with regards to international humanitarian law, but this is
>>>>incorrect. The international community has accepted that a limited number
>>>>of crimes are so odious that their perpetrators are considered enemies of
>>>>Mankind. Such crimes include piracy, slavery, genocide, international
>>>>terrorism and war crimes, to name a few. It is the right and duty of all
>>>>nations to search and bring to trial individuals who have committed such
>>>>crimes, regardless of nationality and status. The Nuremberg Principles,
>>>>established in 1945 and incorporated into positive international law since
>>>>then, state:
>>>>
>>>>"The fact that a person who committed an act which constitutes a crime
>>>>under international law acted as Head of State or responsible Government
>>>>official does not relieve him from responsibility under international law"
>>>>(Principle III. "The fact that a person acted pursuant to order of his
>>>>Government or of a superior does not relieve him from responsibility under
>>>>international law, provided a moral choice was in fact possible for him".
>>>>(Principle IV).
>>>>
>>>>Evidence provided by Israeli historian Benny Morris indicates that some
>>>>Israeli leaders and government members, such as Minister Shitrit, were
>>>>shocked by the expulsions from Lydda and Ramleh in 1948 and wanted to stop
>>>>them. Mr. Rabin choose to implement the expulsions by all means in spite of
>>>>such reservations.
>>>>
>>>>Conclusion
>>>>
>>>>There is ample evidence publicly available regarding the responsibility of
>>>>Mr. Yitzhak Rabin, currently Prime Minister of the State of Israel, in
>>>>instigating and ordering acts defined as war crimes in international law.
>>>>Summary of this evidence has been provided in this memorandum as well as a
>>>>short legal discussion.
>>>>
>>>>It is the obligation of the Signatories of the Geneva Conventions to
>>>>initiate legal procedures, either in domestic courts or through a
>>>>collective mechanism under UN auspices, for the prosecution of war
>>>>criminals. This duty is absolute and cannot be waived - legally - by
>>>>political or other considerations. In practice, leading war criminals, such
>>>>as Mr. Rabin, have not been prosecuted but feted. In today's world, it
>>>>seems that one must have committed the most heinous war crimes to be
>>>>awarded the Nobel Prize for Peace. UN members are perceived as acting in
>>>>concert to shield war criminals. Such gross, systematic and persistent
>>>>derelictions by UN member states and signatories of the Geneva Conventions,
>>>>undermine the moral and legal authority of these states to ensure
>>>>international equity and peace. If the lawkeepers are themselves criminal
>>>>or help to shield leading criminals from prosecution, their legitimacy as
>>>>lawkeepers must be challenged for the sake of world peace and justice. Such
>>>>challenge can be moral, legal, political or military, depending on the
>>>>circumstances.
>>>>
>>>>Human rights' and peace organisations who wish to see the rule of law
>>>>supersede the law of the jungle in international affairs and all those who
>>>>struggle for democracy, public accountability and justice, should therefore
>>>>avail themselves of the evidence provided here to publicize Mr. Rabin's
>>>>deeds and press for his apprehension and prosecution, wherever he is to be
>>>>found.
>>>
>>>Judges, Lawyers and Politicians Need to be recycled - as Fertiliser



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On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:02:36 GMT, kenoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>On Wed, 16 Sep 1998 15:16:05 GMT, bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote:
>>On Mon, 29 Sep 1997 01:42:58 GMT, someone@somewhere.com wrote:

>>>And don't forget the murders of the British, such as in the King david
>>>Hotel, by the IRGUN and Stern Gang, involving this great zionist
>>>gangster!!!


>>>On Sun, 28 Sep 1997 18:30:30 -0700, Clancy
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Memorandum on Yitzhak Rabin's participation in war crimes
>>>>
>>>>By Elias Davidsson, Reykjav_k, Iceland October 1992. Revisions in December
>>>>1992 and December 1994
>>>>
>>>>A number of Member States of the United Nations have declared their
>>>>interest and support for the establishment of an International Criminal
>>>>Court under United Nations auspices to deal with international crimes such
>>>>as war crimes and crimes against humanity. A Special Court to deal with War
>>>>Crimes committed in ex-Yugoslavia has been established under UN auspices
>>>>and has began functioning. There have also been calls by non-governmental
>>>>organisations and eminent citizens for the trial of individual leaders,
>>>>such as Saddam Hussein, Pol Pot, George Bush and John Major, for their
>>>>alleged participation in war crimes. More and more people recognize the
>>>>importance of holding individual public leaders responsible for their deeds
>>>>and failings, not only politically and morally, but also legally.
>>>>International law provides some opportunities in this direction, which have
>>>>not been used yet.
>>>>
>>>>Such opportunity presents itself in the Geneva Conventions of 12 August
>>>>1949. By signing these Conventions, each Signatory State undertook "to
>>>>search for persons alleged to have committed, or to have ordered to be
>>>>committed, [such] grave breaches, and [shall] bring such persons,
>>>>regardless of their nationality, before its own courts." A Signatory may
>>>>also avail itself of the possibility, under certain conditions, of handing
>>>>such persons to another Signatory State for trial.
>>>>
>>>>Since the Nurnberg and Tokyo trials in which the leading World War II
>>>>criminals were tried, no judicial body of any country has been willing to
>>>>initiate legal measures for the apprehension and trial of the world's
>>>>leading war criminals, in spite of States' legal obligations to do so.
>>>>States, including those claiming to support human rights, shield leading
>>>>war criminals from prosecution or provide them with shelter. Individuals
>>>>such as Pol Pot of Kampuchea, Saddam Hussein of Iraq, Assad of Syria,
>>>>Pinochet of Chile and Mobutu of Zaire, are often, and justifiably, labelled
>>>>as enemies of Mankind. But none of them has ever been formally charged by
>>>>any Signatory of the Geneva Conventions, in spite of ample evidence of
>>>>their responsibility for international crimes. Other gross human right
>>>>violators (such as the leaders of Haiti) have been offered shelter in third
>>>>countries where they escape prosecution.
>>>>
>>>>The Israeli-Arab conflict, or more correctly the Zionist- Palestinian
>>>>conflict, has lasted for almost a century. In the course of this conflict,
>>>>many acts of violence were committed by both sides. But not every act of
>>>>violence committed in an international conflict is defined in international
>>>>law as a war crime or a crime against humanity. The difference lies both in
>>>>the nature of the crime, its extent, whether it is systematic or sporadic
>>>>and whether violence was committed against non-combatants, to name a few
>>>>criteria. Only the most odious crimes are considered as offences against
>>>>Mankind, which all states, individually and collectively, are required to
>>>>repress. The Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 and their Additional
>>>>Protocols of 1977, provide a list of such crimes.
>>>>
>>>>The present memorandum provides evidence about the responsibility of Mr.
>>>>Yitzhak Rabin, Israeli national and current Prime Minister of the State of
>>>>Israel, for acts committed under his orders and which are defined in the
>>>>Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 and their Additional Protocol I of
>>>>1977, as 'grave breaches', the technical term for war crimes. The
>>>>memorandum includes also a preliminary legal discussion about the acts in
>>>>question, the responsibility of Mr. Rabin and the duties of states to
>>>>prosecute.
>>>>
>>>> 1. Mr. Rabin Was Responsible for Ethnical Cleaning / Deportation in 1948
>>>>
>>>>On 12 July 1948, Lt. Colonel Yitzhak Rabin, Chief of Operations Operation
>>>>Dani, issued the following order to Yiftah Brigade headquarters:
>>>>
>>>>"1. The inhabitants of Lydda must be expelled quickly without attention to
>>>>age. They should be directed towards Beit Nabala. Yiftah [Brigade
>>>>headquarters] must determine the method and inform [Operation] Dani HQ and
>>>>8th Brigade HQ. 2. Implement immediately." The order was signed "Yitzhak
>>>>R[abin]."
>>>>
>>>>The implementation of this order is described in the authoritative book
>>>>"The birth of the Palestinian refugee problem, 1947-1949" by Israeli
>>>>historian Benny Morris (Cambridge University Press, 1987) [pages 207-210]
>>>>and more in detail in Michael Palumbo's book "The Palestinian catastrophe:
>>>>The 1948 expulsion of a people from their homeland", Quartet Books,
>>>>London/New York, 1987 [Chapter VIII: The Lydda Death March].
>>>>
>>>>These publications offer further evidence about Mr. Rabin's implication in
>>>>this event. The authors estimate that approx. 50.000 civilians (Arabs) were
>>>>expelled from Lydda and Ramleh under Mr. Rabin's orders. As a prelude to
>>>>the flight hundreds of civilians were killed by Israeli soldiers. Many more
>>>>died in the ensuing `march to exile'. Although Zionist leaders claimed that
>>>>the expulsions were based on military necessity, the fact that the refugees
>>>>were not allowed to return and declarations by Zionist leaders about the
>>>>necessity to reduce the number of Arabs in the incumbent Jewish state lend
>>>>credence to the claim (by Palestinians) that the expulsions were part of a
>>>>planned 'transfer' policy by the Zionist authorities, in other words a
>>>>master plan of "ethnical cleansing".
>>>>
>>>>The deportation of civilians constitutes a Crime against Humanity under
>>>>Article 6(c) of the Nnrnberg Charter and a grave breach of the Fourth
>>>>Geneva Convention of 12 August 1949, as specified in Article 147 thereof.
>>>>The unjustifiable delay in the repatriation of the inhabitants of Lydda and
>>>>Ramleh (who have never been allowed to return) constitutes a grave breach
>>>>of the First Additional Protocol to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August
>>>>1949 (article 85.4).
>>>>
>>>>Article 85.5 of the First Additional Protocol to the Geneva Conventions of
>>>>12 August 1949 specifically refers to grave breaches as 'war crimes'.
>>>>
>>>>2. Mr Rabin Ordered in 1967 the Destruction of 3 Villages and the Expulsion
>>>>                            of their Inhabitants
>>>>
>>>>In the 1967 war between Israel and Jordan, Yitzhak Rabin was Chief of Staff
>>>>of the Israeli Defence Forces. In this short war some 5.000 inhabitants
>>>>from three villages in the Latrun triangle between Tel Aviv and Jerusalem
>>>>(Emwas, Beit Nuba and Yalou) were expelled by the Israeli army and their
>>>>villages totally destroyed. An Israeli soldier, Amos Kenan, who took part
>>>>in the expulsions, described these acts in a report sent to all Israeli
>>>>Members of Parliament. According to press reports, including one in
>>>>Jerusalem Post of 24 October 1991, Mr. Yitzhak Rabin admitted in Canadian
>>>>TV having given the order to destroy the villages. The inhabitants of these
>>>>villages were never allowed to return and rebuilt their village nor bury
>>>>their dead in the lands of their former village.
>>>>
>>>>The deportation of civilians constitutes a Crime against Humanity under
>>>>Article 6(c) of the Nnrnberg Charter and a grave breach of the Fourth
>>>>Geneva Convention of 12 August 1949, as specified in Article 147 thereof.
>>>>The unjustifiable delay in the repatriation of the inhabitants of the above
>>>>three villages constitutes a grave breach of the First Additional Protocol
>>>>to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 (article 85.4).
>>>>
>>>>In addition, the Geneva Conventions as well as their additional protocols
>>>>prohibit "at any time and in any place whatsoever....collective
>>>>punishments". It seems that the destruction of these villages - every
>>>>single house in them - constitutes 'collective punishment' within the
>>>>meaning of the Conventions.
>>>>
>>>>    3. Mr Rabin Urged Israeli Soldiers to Break the Bones of Palestinian
>>>>                                 Youngsters
>>>>
>>>>In mid-January 1988, Mr. Rabin, then Israeli Defense Minister, announced a
>>>>policy to restore order in the Occupied Territories by "force, might,
>>>>beatings". More specifically, he urged Israeli soldiers to summarily (and
>>>>viciously) beat Palestinian demonstrators. Israeli soldiers implemented
>>>>this policy, breaking the hands or arms of many demonstrators with
>>>>methodically directed blows, using sticks and stones. In some cases,
>>>>Palestinian youngsters were rounded up from their homes, brought to remote
>>>>areas, and there, while a couple of soldiers held them, had their bones
>>>>smashed. The international outrage called forth by a 40- minute long
>>>>TV-film secretly shot, and showing how Israeli soldiers smash the bones of
>>>>a Palestinian youth, compelled the Israeli government to halt these
>>>>extra-judicial and inhuman punishments.
>>>>
>>>>Israeli soldiers, charged for using excessive force and brought to trial in
>>>>Israel, have testified that the orders for these practices originated from
>>>>above, including from Yitzhak Rabin. Although the Israeli press published
>>>>numerous testimonies, which all mention Mr. Rabin as the instigator of
>>>>these practices (i.e. Ha'aretz, 9. April, 1. July, 3. July 1990, Jerusalem
>>>>Post of 25 July and 30 June 1992), Mr. Rabin was never asked to testify in
>>>>court. No inquiry was initiated regarding Mr. Rabin's role in these
>>>>policies.
>>>>
>>>>Article 147 of the Fourth Geneva Convention of 12 August 1949, specifies as
>>>>one of the grave breaches (war crimes) "inhuman treatment....wilfully
>>>>causing great suffering or serious injury to body or health". Protocol I
>>>>Additional to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 (1977), lists among
>>>>the acts which remain "prohibited at any time and in any place whatsoever,
>>>>whether committed by civilian or by military agents:": "Violence to
>>>>the....physical or mental well-being of persons, in particular....(iii)
>>>>corporal punishment."
>>>>
>>>>    4. Yitzhak Rabin Ordered in 1993 Indiscriminate Attacks of Civilian
>>>>                       Population Centers in Lebanon
>>>>
>>>>The Sunday Times, 1 August 1993, reported under the heading: Rabin's war:
>>>>"Late yesterday, he [Rabin] called off his personal seven-day war in
>>>>southern Lebanon. (...) Rabin's War - Operation Accountability - has killed
>>>>at least 130 and sent hundreds of thousands of Lebanese fleeing towards
>>>>Beirut. (...) Southern Lebanon had become a land without people.(...) About
>>>>80 villages have been hit.". According to the London-based Middle East
>>>>International (MEI) of 6 August 1993, the "majority of casualties were
>>>>civilians. At least 55 towns and villages were very heavily damaged,
>>>>including Nabatiya, a major regional center with a normal population of
>>>>around 100,000."
>>>>
>>>>According to the editorial of the same issue of MEI, this seven-day
>>>>bombardment of southern Lebanon was "expressly designed (as Mr. Rabin
>>>>himself announced) to render South Lebanon 'uninhabitable' and to create a
>>>>tidal wave of refugees so huge that it would destabilise the government in
>>>>Beirut and bend it to Israel's will (...)"
>>>>
>>>>According to Lebanese government estimates (reported in MEI), "some 400,000
>>>>people - mainly Shi'ite Muslims - fled their homes in panic, with about
>>>>half of them converging on Beirut and its southern suburbs. While some had
>>>>families and friends to go to, others arrived with only the clothes they
>>>>stood in, and had no money to fend for themselves".
>>>>
>>>>Both the Hague Conventions of 1907 and the Additional Protocol I to the
>>>>Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 contain specific provisions that
>>>>prohibit attacks on civilian populations. Thus Additional Protocol I
>>>>specifies as a 'grave breach' (war crime) "making the civilian population
>>>>or individual civilians the object of attack" as well as "launching an
>>>>indiscriminate attack affecting the civilian population or civilian objects
>>>>in the knowledge that such attack will cause excessive loss of life, injury
>>>>to civilians or damage to civilian objects". Further details are provided
>>>>by the Protocols, all of which lead to the conclusion that the Israeli
>>>>attack on South Lebanon constituted a 'grave breach' of international
>>>>humanitarian law. The individual who bears the primary responsibility for
>>>>the Israeli operation against South Lebanon is Yitzhak Rabin, in his double
>>>>capacity as Prime Minister and Minister of Defense.
>>>>
>>>>LEGAL DISCUSSION
>>>>
>>>>There are a number of legal questions that must be settled before charging
>>>>Mr. Rabin for participation in war crimes. Among these questions we can
>>>>mention the following: Are the facts allegedly attributed to Mr. Rabin
>>>>true? Are the sources trustworthy? What is the evidence that Mr. Rabin had
>>>>anything to do with these acts ? Do the acts under consideration constitute
>>>>prosecutable crimes under international law?
>>>>
>>>>Another set of questions would deal with the problems involved in bringing
>>>>a person such as Mr. Rabin to trial. These problems are of a similar nature
>>>>to those encountered today by the UN Tribunal on War Crimes Committed in
>>>>Ex- Yugoslavia. These questions will not be dealt here as they are
>>>>premature. However it is necessary to deal, if only summarily, with a
>>>>widely held opinion, according to which the whole question of the
>>>>prosecution of war criminals is a non-starter, because it is impossible to
>>>>bring the leading war criminals to trial due to their political status or
>>>>their country's sovereignty. Although it is true that in many situations,
>>>>it is impossible to bring about the prosecution and apprehension of the
>>>>leading world war criminals, it is nevertheless of great public utility to
>>>>expose their crimes as widely as possible, isolate such people politically
>>>>and morally and cause small but significant changes of policy. Such
>>>>publicity would at least prevent that war criminals could travel between
>>>>world capitals in total impunity and be feted as peace heroes, as Mr. Rabin
>>>>has been. It might be argued that in some circumstances, an individual
>>>>charged of war crimes, might voluntarily seek due process, either to clean
>>>>his name, or to avoid extra-judicial retribution.
>>>>
>>>>The Authencitiy/Reliabity of the Evidence
>>>>
>>>>In all above cases there has been a wide coverage given by the press and in
>>>>scholarly works to the acts committed. There may be disagreement between
>>>>observers as to the number of victims and to details regarding the conduct
>>>>of hostilities.
>>>>
>>>>In the first two cases (expulsion from Lydda and Ramleh and expulsion from
>>>>the 3 villages around Latrun), there is no controversy about the fact that
>>>>the population of these two towns was expelled. A disagreement persists
>>>>regarding the aim of the expulsion. Israel maintains that the expulsion
>>>>were carried out because of military necessity. From the point of view of
>>>>international humanitarian law, it does not matter why a civil population
>>>>is deported. Such deportations are prohibited in all circumstances and
>>>>constitute war crimes. Furthermore, if it were true that a the expulsions
>>>>were carried out because of military necessity, the expelled would be
>>>>allowed to return to their homes, once the hostilities ended. But Israel
>>>>has not only refused to allow such return but allowed Jewish immigrants
>>>>from other countries to permanently occupy the abandoned houses in Ramleh
>>>>and Lydda and planted a park on the land of the villages destroyed in 1967.
>>>>
>>>>Ample evidence has been published in 1988 in the Israeli press and the
>>>>international press about acts of beatings and breaking of limbs by Israeli
>>>>soldiers. Such evidence includes also visual documentaries, testimonies by
>>>>Israeli soldiers and testimonies of victims. There is no controversy about
>>>>the fact that such acts were carried out.
>>>>
>>>>The last case, regarding the massive attack on South Lebanon, was reported
>>>>in the international press. The effect of the attack was documented in
>>>>great detail, particularly the flight of hundreds of thousands of civilians
>>>>from their homes in South Lebanon and their plight.
>>>>
>>>>Mr. Rabin's Personal Involvement in the Above Acts
>>>>
>>>>As to Mr. Rabin's personal implication in the above acts, this has never
>>>>been questioned by anyone. As quoted above, Mr. Rabin has publicly
>>>>acknowledged to have ordered the commission of the first two actions (1948
>>>>and 1967).
>>>>
>>>>While Mr. Rabin did not yet explicitly admit to have urged Israeli soldiers
>>>>"to break the bones" of Palestinian demonstrators, his declared policy in
>>>>1987/88 to crush the Palestinian uprising by "force, might, beatings" and
>>>>the numerous testimonies in Israeli courts by Israeli IDF personnel
>>>>implicating Mr. Rabin in such punishments appear sufficient to charge him
>>>>of instigating and condoning these acts.
>>>>
>>>>As for the IDF attack on South Lebanon in 1993, it can be assumed that it
>>>>was committed under direct orders from and permission by Israel's Prime
>>>>Minister and Minister of Defense, Mr. Yitzhak Rabin. Although one might
>>>>argue that other Israeli nationals, primarily leaders of the IDF, were
>>>>implicated in this gross violation of international law, this does not
>>>>mitigate Mr. Rabin's primary responsibility for this act.
>>>>
>>>>The Legal Status of the Above Acts under International Law
>>>>
>>>>Some Israeli legal scholars argue that the acts described above cannot be
>>>>described as 'war crimes' as they are grossly different in extent and
>>>>intent from the war crimes committed by the Nazi regime. According to this
>>>>view, only the most outrageous types of 'war crimes', as committed in World
>>>>War II, would qualify for universal juridiction. This narrow interpretation
>>>>of international humanitarian law is widely challenged because in practice
>>>>this would nullify the intent and spirit of the Geneva Conventions. Such
>>>>interpretation would thus be incompatible with the Law of Treaties. The
>>>>International Committee of the Red Cross, who have published the Geneva
>>>>Conventions and their Additional Protocols, have also published
>>>>authoritative and detailed commentaries on specific articles of these
>>>>treaties. These can serve as a source to evaluate the applicability of the
>>>>Conventions to these acts. The fact that the Geneva Conventions have been
>>>>violated with impunity by numerous states, has never been considered by
>>>>legal scholars as a practice diluting the letter and spirit of the
>>>>Conventions.
>>>>
>>>>The Geneva Conventions prohibit deportation both of groups and of
>>>>individuals in all circumstances. The expulsion of 5,000 or 50,000
>>>>civilians from their homes falls clearly under this heading. The Nuremberg
>>>>Principles, on the base of which Nazi war criminals were convicted, define
>>>>the "deportation ... for any ... purpose of civilian population of or in
>>>>occupied territory" as War Crime. These Principles define further the
>>>>"deportation and other inhuman acts done against any civilian
>>>>population....when such acts are done....in connection with any crime
>>>>against peace or any war crime", as Crime against Humanity.
>>>>
>>>>There has been some controversy about the legal nature of exactions
>>>>committed by Israeli soldiers against Palestinian demonstrators,
>>>>particularly the beatings under custody. To beat a person he must be
>>>>already under custody. He thus must first be apprehended and therefore does
>>>>not represent any imminent danger to those detaining him. Any
>>>>extra-judicial attack or punishment upon his person constitutes a gross
>>>>deviation from accepted norms of civilized law (which require the due
>>>>process of law to determine a defendant's culpability and punishment). The
>>>>Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 are not as specific as the Additional
>>>>Protocol I of 1977, which proscribes 'corporal punishment', although not as
>>>>a 'grave breach'. The final legal determination of this offence would have
>>>>to be carried out by experts.
>>>>
>>>>As to the attack on South Lebanon, international law is quite explicit
>>>>about the prohibition of attacking civilian areas. The fact that Hizbullah
>>>>forces launched attacks against Israel from these areas does not relieve
>>>>Israel from the duty to observe the rules of warfare when launching
>>>>retribution. In launching and committing the massive attacks on wide
>>>>populated areas in South Lebanon and causing hundreds of thousands of
>>>>people to flee their homes, the IDF clearly and grossly violated the laws
>>>>of warfare. Article 85, paragraph 3 (a) and (b) of the Additional Protocol
>>>>I to the Geneva Conventions of 1949 specify such attacks among the 'grave
>>>>breaches' (war crimes), if such attacks were committed "wilfully, in
>>>>violation of the relevant provisions of this Protocol, and causing death or
>>>>serious injury to body or health".
>>>>
>>>>Do State Leaders Enjoy Immunity Against Prosecution?
>>>>
>>>>It is generally believed that State leaders are immune from legal
>>>>prosecution with regards to international humanitarian law, but this is
>>>>incorrect. The international community has accepted that a limited number
>>>>of crimes are so odious that their perpetrators are considered enemies of
>>>>Mankind. Such crimes include piracy, slavery, genocide, international
>>>>terrorism and war crimes, to name a few. It is the right and duty of all
>>>>nations to search and bring to trial individuals who have committed such
>>>>crimes, regardless of nationality and status. The Nuremberg Principles,
>>>>established in 1945 and incorporated into positive international law since
>>>>then, state:
>>>>
>>>>"The fact that a person who committed an act which constitutes a crime
>>>>under international law acted as Head of State or responsible Government
>>>>official does not relieve him from responsibility under international law"
>>>>(Principle III. "The fact that a person acted pursuant to order of his
>>>>Government or of a superior does not relieve him from responsibility under
>>>>international law, provided a moral choice was in fact possible for him".
>>>>(Principle IV).
>>>>
>>>>Evidence provided by Israeli historian Benny Morris indicates that some
>>>>Israeli leaders and government members, such as Minister Shitrit, were
>>>>shocked by the expulsions from Lydda and Ramleh in 1948 and wanted to stop
>>>>them. Mr. Rabin choose to implement the expulsions by all means in spite of
>>>>such reservations.
>>>>
>>>>Conclusion
>>>>
>>>>There is ample evidence publicly available regarding the responsibility of
>>>>Mr. Yitzhak Rabin, currently Prime Minister of the State of Israel, in
>>>>instigating and ordering acts defined as war crimes in international law.
>>>>Summary of this evidence has been provided in this memorandum as well as a
>>>>short legal discussion.
>>>>
>>>>It is the obligation of the Signatories of the Geneva Conventions to
>>>>initiate legal procedures, either in domestic courts or through a
>>>>collective mechanism under UN auspices, for the prosecution of war
>>>>criminals. This duty is absolute and cannot be waived - legally - by
>>>>political or other considerations. In practice, leading war criminals, such
>>>>as Mr. Rabin, have not been prosecuted but feted. In today's world, it
>>>>seems that one must have committed the most heinous war crimes to be
>>>>awarded the Nobel Prize for Peace. UN members are perceived as acting in
>>>>concert to shield war criminals. Such gross, systematic and persistent
>>>>derelictions by UN member states and signatories of the Geneva Conventions,
>>>>undermine the moral and legal authority of these states to ensure
>>>>international equity and peace. If the lawkeepers are themselves criminal
>>>>or help to shield leading criminals from prosecution, their legitimacy as
>>>>lawkeepers must be challenged for the sake of world peace and justice. Such
>>>>challenge can be moral, legal, political or military, depending on the
>>>>circumstances.
>>>>
>>>>Human rights' and peace organisations who wish to see the rule of law
>>>>supersede the law of the jungle in international affairs and all those who
>>>>struggle for democracy, public accountability and justice, should therefore
>>>>avail themselves of the evidence provided here to publicize Mr. Rabin's
>>>>deeds and press for his apprehension and prosecution, wherever he is to be
>>>>found.
>>>
>>>Judges, Lawyers and Politicians Need to be recycled - as Fertiliser



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On Wed, 07 Oct 1998 20:48:00 GMT, sbjarnason@heimat.zhid.org wrote:

>On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 18:31:48 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI
> wrote:
>
>>============
>>Just a moment ago, on soc.culture.polish, Dr. J. Ilicki, Associate
>>Professor of Sociology and Judaic Studies on Upsalla University raised
>>the question of Polish Polish in the service of Germans during
>>occupation of Poland.  The only reason for this question at this time
>>seems to be his need to stir interethnic hatered.  Provacatively, Dr.
>>Ilicki asks: 1) who were the members of the police, volunteers or
>>draftees?, 2) what was their social status? 3) what happened to them
>>after the war?  Just to play completely innocent (and dumb) he also asks
>>why they were called Granatowa (dark-navy-blue) Police.
>>
>>Only naive will believe that Prof. Ilicki does not know the answeres. 
>>Also only naive will believe that he is not interested in Pinsk the
>>hometown of his parents and allegedly the site of the burial of his
>>grandparents and over 30,000 pinksers (Jews from Pinsk).  He admitted
>>that his mother listed them as killed there with Yad Vashem.  However,
>>young (about 40 years old) Julian pretends disintrest, because he is
>>afraid that exhumations might start at the alleged burial site and will
>>find no skeletons as same happened last year at nearby Mariompole,
>>presently in Lithuania.
>>
>>But coming back to Dr Illicki question: Polish Police during German
>>occupation was  dramatically reduced in numbers and pre-war policemen
>>were forced to serve as an auxillary force to German Ordnung Polizei. 
>>They were ususally not armed, and when armed never given more than five
>>bullets for their long rifles.  Moreover, after each use of firearm they
>>(as well as the Ukraininan Police) had to write a report for what target
>>each bulett was used and with what effectivness, hardly an invitation to
>>the genocide.
>>
>>On the other hand there was a police force in the Third Reich, in which
>>service was completely voluntary.  It was called Ordnungdienst.  Their
>>emblem was a light alloy Star of David.  The social background of these
>>Jewish collaborators according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18% with
>>post-graduate degrees,  60% with college degree, 20% with elementary
>>education.  These are data from self-serving, post-war questionaries.
>>
>>But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the requirement was that EACH
>>Jewish policeman has at least matura (two years of college) see page 489
>>of his book.  In practice, the Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
>>journalist who with the day of German occupation immediately were fired
>>from their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because the schools were
>>closed.
>>
>>While Polish teachers joined the underground, unemployed Jewish
>>intelligentia clamored for the police work.  
>>
>>Some of it was really guresome as your remember from our previous
>>description of the Feb. 1942 execution on Rybna Street market place in
>>Lodz.  German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown endlessly in
>>Wisenthal Museum in LA.  Thousands of Jews standing and watching behind
>>three uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered pistols facing
>>Jewish crowd and about to be hanged women passing out and forced into
>>the noose by Jewish Policemen.
>>
>>-------------
>>Jozef Pawlikowski
>>
>>We think that it is unethical that you refuse to look for the mass
>>graves of your relatives and ancestors from Pinsk Dr. Ilicki.  We found
>>ours in Katyn, Miednoje Kharkiv, Palmiry, Treblinka I for Poles and
>>dozens of other places.  Why you shrink from searching for your
>>ancestors, Dr Ilicki?
>>
>>------------
>>
>>
>>Julian Ilicki wrote:
>>> 
>>> W ostatnim czasie poruszalo sie tutaj nieco sprawe granatowej policji.
>>> Czy ktos wie jak odbywala sie rekrutacja do tej policji? Czy byla to po
>>> prostu policja przedwojenna ktora pod innym dowodztwem i w innych mundurach
>>> kontynuowala swoja dzialalnosc z okresu przedwojennego? A jezeli tak, to
>>> czy przedwojenni policjanci byli zmuszeni do pozostawania w szeregach
>>> granatowej policji (i jakimi sankcjami sie to wymuszalo), cz mogli moze
>>> policje opuscic po kampanii wrzesniowej? Czy odbywala sie rekrutacja nowych
>>> policjantow podczas okupacji i w jaki sposob? Co sie z tymi ludzmi stalo po
>>> wojnie? I skad sie bierze nazwa "granatowa policja" - czy od kolorow
>>> mundurow?
>>> 
>>> Julian
>>> 
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Julian Ilicki, Ph.D.                 e-mail: julian.ilicki@soc.uu.se
>>> Uppsala Univ., Dept. of Sociology, Box 821, S-751 08 Uppsala, Sweden
>>> voice, office: +46 - 18 4711513      voice, private: +46 - 18 204747
>>> fax, Dept.:    +46 - 18 4711170      cellular:      +46 - 70 7533731
>>>               http://www.soc.uu.se/staff/julian_i.html
>>>                     http://www.soc.uu.se/~julian/
>>Julian Ilicki wrote:
>>> 
>>> W ostatnim czasie poruszalo sie tutaj nieco sprawe granatowej policji.
>>> Czy ktos wie jak odbywala sie rekrutacja do tej policji? Czy byla to po
>>> prostu policja przedwojenna ktora pod innym dowodztwem i w innych mundurach
>>> kontynuowala swoja dzialalnosc z okresu przedwojennego? A jezeli tak, to
>>> czy przedwojenni policjanci byli zmuszeni do pozostawania w szeregach
>>> granatowej policji (i jakimi sankcjami sie to wymuszalo), czy mogli moze
>>> policje opuscic po kampanii wrzesniowej? Czy odbywala sie rekrutacja nowych
>>> policjantow podczas okupacji i w jaki sposob? Co sie z tymi ludzmi stalo po
>>> wojnie? I skad sie bierze nazwa "granatowa policja" - czy od kolorow
>>> mundurow?
>>> 
>>> Julian
>>> 
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Julian Ilicki, Ph.D.                 e-mail: julian.ilicki@soc.uu.se
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On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:02:36 GMT, kenoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>On Wed, 16 Sep 1998 15:16:05 GMT, bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote:
>>On Mon, 29 Sep 1997 01:42:58 GMT, someone@somewhere.com wrote:

>>>And don't forget the murders of the British, such as in the King david
>>>Hotel, by the IRGUN and Stern Gang, involving this great zionist
>>>gangster!!!


>>>On Sun, 28 Sep 1997 18:30:30 -0700, Clancy
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Memorandum on Yitzhak Rabin's participation in war crimes
>>>>
>>>>By Elias Davidsson, Reykjav_k, Iceland October 1992. Revisions in December
>>>>1992 and December 1994
>>>>
>>>>A number of Member States of the United Nations have declared their
>>>>interest and support for the establishment of an International Criminal
>>>>Court under United Nations auspices to deal with international crimes such
>>>>as war crimes and crimes against humanity. A Special Court to deal with War
>>>>Crimes committed in ex-Yugoslavia has been established under UN auspices
>>>>and has began functioning. There have also been calls by non-governmental
>>>>organisations and eminent citizens for the trial of individual leaders,
>>>>such as Saddam Hussein, Pol Pot, George Bush and John Major, for their
>>>>alleged participation in war crimes. More and more people recognize the
>>>>importance of holding individual public leaders responsible for their deeds
>>>>and failings, not only politically and morally, but also legally.
>>>>International law provides some opportunities in this direction, which have
>>>>not been used yet.
>>>>
>>>>Such opportunity presents itself in the Geneva Conventions of 12 August
>>>>1949. By signing these Conventions, each Signatory State undertook "to
>>>>search for persons alleged to have committed, or to have ordered to be
>>>>committed, [such] grave breaches, and [shall] bring such persons,
>>>>regardless of their nationality, before its own courts." A Signatory may
>>>>also avail itself of the possibility, under certain conditions, of handing
>>>>such persons to another Signatory State for trial.
>>>>
>>>>Since the Nurnberg and Tokyo trials in which the leading World War II
>>>>criminals were tried, no judicial body of any country has been willing to
>>>>initiate legal measures for the apprehension and trial of the world's
>>>>leading war criminals, in spite of States' legal obligations to do so.
>>>>States, including those claiming to support human rights, shield leading
>>>>war criminals from prosecution or provide them with shelter. Individuals
>>>>such as Pol Pot of Kampuchea, Saddam Hussein of Iraq, Assad of Syria,
>>>>Pinochet of Chile and Mobutu of Zaire, are often, and justifiably, labelled
>>>>as enemies of Mankind. But none of them has ever been formally charged by
>>>>any Signatory of the Geneva Conventions, in spite of ample evidence of
>>>>their responsibility for international crimes. Other gross human right
>>>>violators (such as the leaders of Haiti) have been offered shelter in third
>>>>countries where they escape prosecution.
>>>>
>>>>The Israeli-Arab conflict, or more correctly the Zionist- Palestinian
>>>>conflict, has lasted for almost a century. In the course of this conflict,
>>>>many acts of violence were committed by both sides. But not every act of
>>>>violence committed in an international conflict is defined in international
>>>>law as a war crime or a crime against humanity. The difference lies both in
>>>>the nature of the crime, its extent, whether it is systematic or sporadic
>>>>and whether violence was committed against non-combatants, to name a few
>>>>criteria. Only the most odious crimes are considered as offences against
>>>>Mankind, which all states, individually and collectively, are required to
>>>>repress. The Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 and their Additional
>>>>Protocols of 1977, provide a list of such crimes.
>>>>
>>>>The present memorandum provides evidence about the responsibility of Mr.
>>>>Yitzhak Rabin, Israeli national and current Prime Minister of the State of
>>>>Israel, for acts committed under his orders and which are defined in the
>>>>Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 and their Additional Protocol I of
>>>>1977, as 'grave breaches', the technical term for war crimes. The
>>>>memorandum includes also a preliminary legal discussion about the acts in
>>>>question, the responsibility of Mr. Rabin and the duties of states to
>>>>prosecute.
>>>>
>>>> 1. Mr. Rabin Was Responsible for Ethnical Cleaning / Deportation in 1948
>>>>
>>>>On 12 July 1948, Lt. Colonel Yitzhak Rabin, Chief of Operations Operation
>>>>Dani, issued the following order to Yiftah Brigade headquarters:
>>>>
>>>>"1. The inhabitants of Lydda must be expelled quickly without attention to
>>>>age. They should be directed towards Beit Nabala. Yiftah [Brigade
>>>>headquarters] must determine the method and inform [Operation] Dani HQ and
>>>>8th Brigade HQ. 2. Implement immediately." The order was signed "Yitzhak
>>>>R[abin]."
>>>>
>>>>The implementation of this order is described in the authoritative book
>>>>"The birth of the Palestinian refugee problem, 1947-1949" by Israeli
>>>>historian Benny Morris (Cambridge University Press, 1987) [pages 207-210]
>>>>and more in detail in Michael Palumbo's book "The Palestinian catastrophe:
>>>>The 1948 expulsion of a people from their homeland", Quartet Books,
>>>>London/New York, 1987 [Chapter VIII: The Lydda Death March].
>>>>
>>>>These publications offer further evidence about Mr. Rabin's implication in
>>>>this event. The authors estimate that approx. 50.000 civilians (Arabs) were
>>>>expelled from Lydda and Ramleh under Mr. Rabin's orders. As a prelude to
>>>>the flight hundreds of civilians were killed by Israeli soldiers. Many more
>>>>died in the ensuing `march to exile'. Although Zionist leaders claimed that
>>>>the expulsions were based on military necessity, the fact that the refugees
>>>>were not allowed to return and declarations by Zionist leaders about the
>>>>necessity to reduce the number of Arabs in the incumbent Jewish state lend
>>>>credence to the claim (by Palestinians) that the expulsions were part of a
>>>>planned 'transfer' policy by the Zionist authorities, in other words a
>>>>master plan of "ethnical cleansing".
>>>>
>>>>The deportation of civilians constitutes a Crime against Humanity under
>>>>Article 6(c) of the Nnrnberg Charter and a grave breach of the Fourth
>>>>Geneva Convention of 12 August 1949, as specified in Article 147 thereof.
>>>>The unjustifiable delay in the repatriation of the inhabitants of Lydda and
>>>>Ramleh (who have never been allowed to return) constitutes a grave breach
>>>>of the First Additional Protocol to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August
>>>>1949 (article 85.4).
>>>>
>>>>Article 85.5 of the First Additional Protocol to the Geneva Conventions of
>>>>12 August 1949 specifically refers to grave breaches as 'war crimes'.
>>>>
>>>>2. Mr Rabin Ordered in 1967 the Destruction of 3 Villages and the Expulsion
>>>>                            of their Inhabitants
>>>>
>>>>In the 1967 war between Israel and Jordan, Yitzhak Rabin was Chief of Staff
>>>>of the Israeli Defence Forces. In this short war some 5.000 inhabitants
>>>>from three villages in the Latrun triangle between Tel Aviv and Jerusalem
>>>>(Emwas, Beit Nuba and Yalou) were expelled by the Israeli army and their
>>>>villages totally destroyed. An Israeli soldier, Amos Kenan, who took part
>>>>in the expulsions, described these acts in a report sent to all Israeli
>>>>Members of Parliament. According to press reports, including one in
>>>>Jerusalem Post of 24 October 1991, Mr. Yitzhak Rabin admitted in Canadian
>>>>TV having given the order to destroy the villages. The inhabitants of these
>>>>villages were never allowed to return and rebuilt their village nor bury
>>>>their dead in the lands of their former village.
>>>>
>>>>The deportation of civilians constitutes a Crime against Humanity under
>>>>Article 6(c) of the Nnrnberg Charter and a grave breach of the Fourth
>>>>Geneva Convention of 12 August 1949, as specified in Article 147 thereof.
>>>>The unjustifiable delay in the repatriation of the inhabitants of the above
>>>>three villages constitutes a grave breach of the First Additional Protocol
>>>>to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 (article 85.4).
>>>>
>>>>In addition, the Geneva Conventions as well as their additional protocols
>>>>prohibit "at any time and in any place whatsoever....collective
>>>>punishments". It seems that the destruction of these villages - every
>>>>single house in them - constitutes 'collective punishment' within the
>>>>meaning of the Conventions.
>>>>
>>>>    3. Mr Rabin Urged Israeli Soldiers to Break the Bones of Palestinian
>>>>                                 Youngsters
>>>>
>>>>In mid-January 1988, Mr. Rabin, then Israeli Defense Minister, announced a
>>>>policy to restore order in the Occupied Territories by "force, might,
>>>>beatings". More specifically, he urged Israeli soldiers to summarily (and
>>>>viciously) beat Palestinian demonstrators. Israeli soldiers implemented
>>>>this policy, breaking the hands or arms of many demonstrators with
>>>>methodically directed blows, using sticks and stones. In some cases,
>>>>Palestinian youngsters were rounded up from their homes, brought to remote
>>>>areas, and there, while a couple of soldiers held them, had their bones
>>>>smashed. The international outrage called forth by a 40- minute long
>>>>TV-film secretly shot, and showing how Israeli soldiers smash the bones of
>>>>a Palestinian youth, compelled the Israeli government to halt these
>>>>extra-judicial and inhuman punishments.
>>>>
>>>>Israeli soldiers, charged for using excessive force and brought to trial in
>>>>Israel, have testified that the orders for these practices originated from
>>>>above, including from Yitzhak Rabin. Although the Israeli press published
>>>>numerous testimonies, which all mention Mr. Rabin as the instigator of
>>>>these practices (i.e. Ha'aretz, 9. April, 1. July, 3. July 1990, Jerusalem
>>>>Post of 25 July and 30 June 1992), Mr. Rabin was never asked to testify in
>>>>court. No inquiry was initiated regarding Mr. Rabin's role in these
>>>>policies.
>>>>
>>>>Article 147 of the Fourth Geneva Convention of 12 August 1949, specifies as
>>>>one of the grave breaches (war crimes) "inhuman treatment....wilfully
>>>>causing great suffering or serious injury to body or health". Protocol I
>>>>Additional to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 (1977), lists among
>>>>the acts which remain "prohibited at any time and in any place whatsoever,
>>>>whether committed by civilian or by military agents:": "Violence to
>>>>the....physical or mental well-being of persons, in particular....(iii)
>>>>corporal punishment."
>>>>
>>>>    4. Yitzhak Rabin Ordered in 1993 Indiscriminate Attacks of Civilian
>>>>                       Population Centers in Lebanon
>>>>
>>>>The Sunday Times, 1 August 1993, reported under the heading: Rabin's war:
>>>>"Late yesterday, he [Rabin] called off his personal seven-day war in
>>>>southern Lebanon. (...) Rabin's War - Operation Accountability - has killed
>>>>at least 130 and sent hundreds of thousands of Lebanese fleeing towards
>>>>Beirut. (...) Southern Lebanon had become a land without people.(...) About
>>>>80 villages have been hit.". According to the London-based Middle East
>>>>International (MEI) of 6 August 1993, the "majority of casualties were
>>>>civilians. At least 55 towns and villages were very heavily damaged,
>>>>including Nabatiya, a major regional center with a normal population of
>>>>around 100,000."
>>>>
>>>>According to the editorial of the same issue of MEI, this seven-day
>>>>bombardment of southern Lebanon was "expressly designed (as Mr. Rabin
>>>>himself announced) to render South Lebanon 'uninhabitable' and to create a
>>>>tidal wave of refugees so huge that it would destabilise the government in
>>>>Beirut and bend it to Israel's will (...)"
>>>>
>>>>According to Lebanese government estimates (reported in MEI), "some 400,000
>>>>people - mainly Shi'ite Muslims - fled their homes in panic, with about
>>>>half of them converging on Beirut and its southern suburbs. While some had
>>>>families and friends to go to, others arrived with only the clothes they
>>>>stood in, and had no money to fend for themselves".
>>>>
>>>>Both the Hague Conventions of 1907 and the Additional Protocol I to the
>>>>Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 contain specific provisions that
>>>>prohibit attacks on civilian populations. Thus Additional Protocol I
>>>>specifies as a 'grave breach' (war crime) "making the civilian population
>>>>or individual civilians the object of attack" as well as "launching an
>>>>indiscriminate attack affecting the civilian population or civilian objects
>>>>in the knowledge that such attack will cause excessive loss of life, injury
>>>>to civilians or damage to civilian objects". Further details are provided
>>>>by the Protocols, all of which lead to the conclusion that the Israeli
>>>>attack on South Lebanon constituted a 'grave breach' of international
>>>>humanitarian law. The individual who bears the primary responsibility for
>>>>the Israeli operation against South Lebanon is Yitzhak Rabin, in his double
>>>>capacity as Prime Minister and Minister of Defense.
>>>>
>>>>LEGAL DISCUSSION
>>>>
>>>>There are a number of legal questions that must be settled before charging
>>>>Mr. Rabin for participation in war crimes. Among these questions we can
>>>>mention the following: Are the facts allegedly attributed to Mr. Rabin
>>>>true? Are the sources trustworthy? What is the evidence that Mr. Rabin had
>>>>anything to do with these acts ? Do the acts under consideration constitute
>>>>prosecutable crimes under international law?
>>>>
>>>>Another set of questions would deal with the problems involved in bringing
>>>>a person such as Mr. Rabin to trial. These problems are of a similar nature
>>>>to those encountered today by the UN Tribunal on War Crimes Committed in
>>>>Ex- Yugoslavia. These questions will not be dealt here as they are
>>>>premature. However it is necessary to deal, if only summarily, with a
>>>>widely held opinion, according to which the whole question of the
>>>>prosecution of war criminals is a non-starter, because it is impossible to
>>>>bring the leading war criminals to trial due to their political status or
>>>>their country's sovereignty. Although it is true that in many situations,
>>>>it is impossible to bring about the prosecution and apprehension of the
>>>>leading world war criminals, it is nevertheless of great public utility to
>>>>expose their crimes as widely as possible, isolate such people politically
>>>>and morally and cause small but significant changes of policy. Such
>>>>publicity would at least prevent that war criminals could travel between
>>>>world capitals in total impunity and be feted as peace heroes, as Mr. Rabin
>>>>has been. It might be argued that in some circumstances, an individual
>>>>charged of war crimes, might voluntarily seek due process, either to clean
>>>>his name, or to avoid extra-judicial retribution.
>>>>
>>>>The Authencitiy/Reliabity of the Evidence
>>>>
>>>>In all above cases there has been a wide coverage given by the press and in
>>>>scholarly works to the acts committed. There may be disagreement between
>>>>observers as to the number of victims and to details regarding the conduct
>>>>of hostilities.
>>>>
>>>>In the first two cases (expulsion from Lydda and Ramleh and expulsion from
>>>>the 3 villages around Latrun), there is no controversy about the fact that
>>>>the population of these two towns was expelled. A disagreement persists
>>>>regarding the aim of the expulsion. Israel maintains that the expulsion
>>>>were carried out because of military necessity. From the point of view of
>>>>international humanitarian law, it does not matter why a civil population
>>>>is deported. Such deportations are prohibited in all circumstances and
>>>>constitute war crimes. Furthermore, if it were true that a the expulsions
>>>>were carried out because of military necessity, the expelled would be
>>>>allowed to return to their homes, once the hostilities ended. But Israel
>>>>has not only refused to allow such return but allowed Jewish immigrants
>>>>from other countries to permanently occupy the abandoned houses in Ramleh
>>>>and Lydda and planted a park on the land of the villages destroyed in 1967.
>>>>
>>>>Ample evidence has been published in 1988 in the Israeli press and the
>>>>international press about acts of beatings and breaking of limbs by Israeli
>>>>soldiers. Such evidence includes also visual documentaries, testimonies by
>>>>Israeli soldiers and testimonies of victims. There is no controversy about
>>>>the fact that such acts were carried out.
>>>>
>>>>The last case, regarding the massive attack on South Lebanon, was reported
>>>>in the international press. The effect of the attack was documented in
>>>>great detail, particularly the flight of hundreds of thousands of civilians
>>>>from their homes in South Lebanon and their plight.
>>>>
>>>>Mr. Rabin's Personal Involvement in the Above Acts
>>>>
>>>>As to Mr. Rabin's personal implication in the above acts, this has never
>>>>been questioned by anyone. As quoted above, Mr. Rabin has publicly
>>>>acknowledged to have ordered the commission of the first two actions (1948
>>>>and 1967).
>>>>
>>>>While Mr. Rabin did not yet explicitly admit to have urged Israeli soldiers
>>>>"to break the bones" of Palestinian demonstrators, his declared policy in
>>>>1987/88 to crush the Palestinian uprising by "force, might, beatings" and
>>>>the numerous testimonies in Israeli courts by Israeli IDF personnel
>>>>implicating Mr. Rabin in such punishments appear sufficient to charge him
>>>>of instigating and condoning these acts.
>>>>
>>>>As for the IDF attack on South Lebanon in 1993, it can be assumed that it
>>>>was committed under direct orders from and permission by Israel's Prime
>>>>Minister and Minister of Defense, Mr. Yitzhak Rabin. Although one might
>>>>argue that other Israeli nationals, primarily leaders of the IDF, were
>>>>implicated in this gross violation of international law, this does not
>>>>mitigate Mr. Rabin's primary responsibility for this act.
>>>>
>>>>The Legal Status of the Above Acts under International Law
>>>>
>>>>Some Israeli legal scholars argue that the acts described above cannot be
>>>>described as 'war crimes' as they are grossly different in extent and
>>>>intent from the war crimes committed by the Nazi regime. According to this
>>>>view, only the most outrageous types of 'war crimes', as committed in World
>>>>War II, would qualify for universal juridiction. This narrow interpretation
>>>>of international humanitarian law is widely challenged because in practice
>>>>this would nullify the intent and spirit of the Geneva Conventions. Such
>>>>interpretation would thus be incompatible with the Law of Treaties. The
>>>>International Committee of the Red Cross, who have published the Geneva
>>>>Conventions and their Additional Protocols, have also published
>>>>authoritative and detailed commentaries on specific articles of these
>>>>treaties. These can serve as a source to evaluate the applicability of the
>>>>Conventions to these acts. The fact that the Geneva Conventions have been
>>>>violated with impunity by numerous states, has never been considered by
>>>>legal scholars as a practice diluting the letter and spirit of the
>>>>Conventions.
>>>>
>>>>The Geneva Conventions prohibit deportation both of groups and of
>>>>individuals in all circumstances. The expulsion of 5,000 or 50,000
>>>>civilians from their homes falls clearly under this heading. The Nuremberg
>>>>Principles, on the base of which Nazi war criminals were convicted, define
>>>>the "deportation ... for any ... purpose of civilian population of or in
>>>>occupied territory" as War Crime. These Principles define further the
>>>>"deportation and other inhuman acts done against any civilian
>>>>population....when such acts are done....in connection with any crime
>>>>against peace or any war crime", as Crime against Humanity.
>>>>
>>>>There has been some controversy about the legal nature of exactions
>>>>committed by Israeli soldiers against Palestinian demonstrators,
>>>>particularly the beatings under custody. To beat a person he must be
>>>>already under custody. He thus must first be apprehended and therefore does
>>>>not represent any imminent danger to those detaining him. Any
>>>>extra-judicial attack or punishment upon his person constitutes a gross
>>>>deviation from accepted norms of civilized law (which require the due
>>>>process of law to determine a defendant's culpability and punishment). The
>>>>Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 are not as specific as the Additional
>>>>Protocol I of 1977, which proscribes 'corporal punishment', although not as
>>>>a 'grave breach'. The final legal determination of this offence would have
>>>>to be carried out by experts.
>>>>
>>>>As to the attack on South Lebanon, international law is quite explicit
>>>>about the prohibition of attacking civilian areas. The fact that Hizbullah
>>>>forces launched attacks against Israel from these areas does not relieve
>>>>Israel from the duty to observe the rules of warfare when launching
>>>>retribution. In launching and committing the massive attacks on wide
>>>>populated areas in South Lebanon and causing hundreds of thousands of
>>>>people to flee their homes, the IDF clearly and grossly violated the laws
>>>>of warfare. Article 85, paragraph 3 (a) and (b) of the Additional Protocol
>>>>I to the Geneva Conventions of 1949 specify such attacks among the 'grave
>>>>breaches' (war crimes), if such attacks were committed "wilfully, in
>>>>violation of the relevant provisions of this Protocol, and causing death or
>>>>serious injury to body or health".
>>>>
>>>>Do State Leaders Enjoy Immunity Against Prosecution?
>>>>
>>>>It is generally believed that State leaders are immune from legal
>>>>prosecution with regards to international humanitarian law, but this is
>>>>incorrect. The international community has accepted that a limited number
>>>>of crimes are so odious that their perpetrators are considered enemies of
>>>>Mankind. Such crimes include piracy, slavery, genocide, international
>>>>terrorism and war crimes, to name a few. It is the right and duty of all
>>>>nations to search and bring to trial individuals who have committed such
>>>>crimes, regardless of nationality and status. The Nuremberg Principles,
>>>>established in 1945 and incorporated into positive international law since
>>>>then, state:
>>>>
>>>>"The fact that a person who committed an act which constitutes a crime
>>>>under international law acted as Head of State or responsible Government
>>>>official does not relieve him from responsibility under international law"
>>>>(Principle III. "The fact that a person acted pursuant to order of his
>>>>Government or of a superior does not relieve him from responsibility under
>>>>international law, provided a moral choice was in fact possible for him".
>>>>(Principle IV).
>>>>
>>>>Evidence provided by Israeli historian Benny Morris indicates that some
>>>>Israeli leaders and government members, such as Minister Shitrit, were
>>>>shocked by the expulsions from Lydda and Ramleh in 1948 and wanted to stop
>>>>them. Mr. Rabin choose to implement the expulsions by all means in spite of
>>>>such reservations.
>>>>
>>>>Conclusion
>>>>
>>>>There is ample evidence publicly available regarding the responsibility of
>>>>Mr. Yitzhak Rabin, currently Prime Minister of the State of Israel, in
>>>>instigating and ordering acts defined as war crimes in international law.
>>>>Summary of this evidence has been provided in this memorandum as well as a
>>>>short legal discussion.
>>>>
>>>>It is the obligation of the Signatories of the Geneva Conventions to
>>>>initiate legal procedures, either in domestic courts or through a
>>>>collective mechanism under UN auspices, for the prosecution of war
>>>>criminals. This duty is absolute and cannot be waived - legally - by
>>>>political or other considerations. In practice, leading war criminals, such
>>>>as Mr. Rabin, have not been prosecuted but feted. In today's world, it
>>>>seems that one must have committed the most heinous war crimes to be
>>>>awarded the Nobel Prize for Peace. UN members are perceived as acting in
>>>>concert to shield war criminals. Such gross, systematic and persistent
>>>>derelictions by UN member states and signatories of the Geneva Conventions,
>>>>undermine the moral and legal authority of these states to ensure
>>>>international equity and peace. If the lawkeepers are themselves criminal
>>>>or help to shield leading criminals from prosecution, their legitimacy as
>>>>lawkeepers must be challenged for the sake of world peace and justice. Such
>>>>challenge can be moral, legal, political or military, depending on the
>>>>circumstances.
>>>>
>>>>Human rights' and peace organisations who wish to see the rule of law
>>>>supersede the law of the jungle in international affairs and all those who
>>>>struggle for democracy, public accountability and justice, should therefore
>>>>avail themselves of the evidence provided here to publicize Mr. Rabin's
>>>>deeds and press for his apprehension and prosecution, wherever he is to be
>>>>found.
>>>
>>>Judges, Lawyers and Politicians Need to be recycled - as Fertiliser



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>On Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:02:29 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>wrote:
>>On Mon, 22 Sep 1997 17:28:24 GMT, odessa88@direct.ca wrote:

>>>If there were so many documented JEWS in the German military, one MUST
>>>question how many may have died in WWII!!!
>>>
>>>It seems that the number keeps on increasing, by mythical magic, just
>>>as each new lawsuit demanding reparations is filed!!!
>>>
>>>In other words, soon the number of damn JEW claimants for alleged
>>>demise in WWII will exceed the populations of all the countries
>>>involved.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 02:43:34 GMT, vagabond@idirect.com (William
>>>Markiewicz) wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>For a fair approximation of the number of victims, the extent of
>>>>Jewish life in pre-war Europe must be looked at.  See the
>>>>Communication Page, August 97 issue 
>>>>http://web.idirect.com/~vagabond
>>>
>>>sperati wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>>>> From: stefan lemieszewski 
>>>> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>>>> 
>>>> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>>>> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>>>> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>>>> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>>>> 
>>>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>>> titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
>>>> appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>>>> to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>>>> >>Stefan Lemieszewski
>>>> 
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> North Shore News
>>>> February 2, 1997
>>>> 
>>>> Insights from abroad
>>>> Doug Collins
>>>> 
>>>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>>> that is ignored in Canada.
>>>> 
>>>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>>> served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
>>>> 
>>>> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>>>> about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
>>>> 
>>>> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>>>> was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
>>>> transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
>>>> 
>>>> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
>>>> married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>>>> generals, and 23 colonels.
>>>> 
>>>> Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
>>>> Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>>>> more. The research is continuing.
>>>> 
>>>> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>>>> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>>>> alive.
>>>> 
>>>> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>>>> father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
>>>> 
>>>> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>>>> whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
>>>> 
>>>> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>>>> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>>>> 
>>>> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>>>> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>>>> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>>>> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>>>> documents in the process.
>>>> 
>>>> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>>>> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew
>>>> could ever have fought for Hitler.
>>>> 
>>>> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
>>>> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
>>>> 
>>>> He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
>>>> about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>>>> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
>>>> 
>>>> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may be
>>>> used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers of
>>>> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>>>> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>>>> 
>>>> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>>>> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>>>> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>>>> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>>>> 
>>>> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>>>> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>>>> was a Jew.
>>>> 
>>>> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>>>> 
>>>> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>>>> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>>>> one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
>>>> 
>>>> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>>>> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>>>> 
>>>> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>>>> knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced to a
>>>> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>>>> 
>>>> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>>>> 
>>>> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>>>> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>>>> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>>>> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>>>> plotting against Hitler.
>>>> 
>>>> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>>>> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>>>> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>>>> to it that he was discharged from the army.
>>>> 
>>>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>>> wonder why?
>>>> 
>>>> ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>>>> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>>>> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>>>> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>>>
>>>
>>>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>>>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>>>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!



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On Fri, 25 Dec 1998 21:44:34 GMT, kahaneken@nazikor.niz.org wrote:
>On Thu, 26 Nov 1998 14:58:53 GMT, KenSicko@zhid.oz.org wrote:
>>On 26 Nov 1998 02:04:42 GMT, marek13@aol.com (Marek13) wrote:

>>>The proper word is "Holocaust."  Can't you spell English?

>>The proper term is HOLOHOAX, in connection with the extortion of
>>billions of dollars from gullible governments, and institutions, such
>>as from Switzerland!!!


>>On Sat, 18 Jul 1998 11:31:10 -0600, "Bassam Kouatli"
>> wrote:

>>>Zionism and the Holocaust
>
>>>Haim Bresheeth, in RETURN, March 1989
>>>The first point to note regarding the appropriation of the history of the
>>>Holocaust by Zionist propaganda is that Zionism without anti-Semitism is
>>>impossible. Zionism agrees with the basic tenet of anti-Semitism, namely
>>>that Jews cannot live with non-Jews.
>>>The history and roots of the Holocaust go back a long way. While the
>>>industry of death and destruction did not operate before 1942, its roots
>>>were firmly placed in the 19th Century. Jewish aspirations for emancipation
>>>emerged out of the national struggles in Europe. When the hopes for
>>>liberation through bourgeois-democratic change were dashed, other
>>>alternatives for improving the lot of the Jews of Europe achieved
>>>prominence.
>>>
>>>The socialist Bund, a mass movement with enormous following, had to contend
>>>with opposition from a new and small, almost insignificant opponent, the
>>>political Zionists. In outline these two offered diametrically opposed
>>>options for Jews in Europe. While the Bund was suggesting joining forces
>>>with the rest of Europe's workers, the Zionists were proposing a new
>>>programme aimed at ridding Europe of its Jews by setting up some form of a
>>>Jewish state.
>>>
>>>Historically, nothing is inevitable, all depends on the balance of forces
>>>involved in the struggle. History can be seen as an option tree: every time
>>>a certain option is chosen, other routes become barred. Because of that
>>>choice, movement backwards to the point before that choice was mad is
>>>impossible. While Zionism as an option was taken by many young Jews, it
>>>remained a minority position until the first days of the 3rd Reich. The
>>>Zionist Federation of Germany (ZVfD), an organisation representing a tiny
>>>minority of German Jews, was selected by the Nazis as the body to represent
>>>the Jews of the Reich. Its was the only flag of an international
>>>organisation allowed to fly in Berlin, and this was the only international
>>>organisation allowed to operate during this period. From a marginal
>>>position, the leaders of the Zionist Federation were propelled to a
>>>prominence and centrality that surprised even them. All of a sudden they
>>>attained political power, power based not on representation, but from being
>>>selected as the choice of the Nazi regime for dealing with the 'Jewish
>>>problem'. Their position in negotiating with the Nazis agreements that
>>>affected the lives of many tens of thousands of the Jews in Germany
>>>transformed them from a utopian, marginal organisation in Germany (and some
>>>other countries in Europe) into a real option to be considered by German
>>>Jews.
>>>
>>>The best example of this was the 'Transfer Agreement' of 1934. Immediately
>>>after the Nazi takeover in 1933, Jews all over the world supported or were
>>>organising a world wide boycott of German goods. This campaign hurt the Nazi
>>>regime and the German authorities searched frantically for a way disabling
>>>the boycott. It was clear that if Jews and Jewish organisations were to pull
>>>out, the campaign would collapse.
>>>
>>>This problem was solved by the ZVfD. A letter sent to the Nazi party as
>>>early as 21.6.33, outlined the degree of agreement that existed between the
>>>two organisations on the questions of race, nation, and the nature of the
>>>'Jewish problem', and it offered to collaborate with the new regime:
>>>
>>>The realisation of Zionism could only be hurt by resentment of Jews abroad
>>>against the German development. Boycott propaganda - such as is currently
>>>being carried on against Germany in many ways - is in essence unZionist,
>>>because Zionism wants not to do battle but to convince and build...
>>>
>>>In their eagerness to gain credence and the backing of the new regime, the
>>>Zionist organisation managed to undermine the boycott. The main public act
>>>was the signature of the 'Transfer Agreement' with the Nazi authorities
>>>during the Zionist Congress of 1934. In essence, the agreement was designed
>>>to get Germany's Jews out of the country and into Mandate Palestine. It
>>>provided a possibility for Jews to take a sizeable part of their property
>>>out of the country, through a transfer of German goods to Palestine. This
>>>right was denied to Jews leaving for any other destination (emphasis - ED).
>>>The Zionist Organisation was the acting agent, through its financial
>>>organisations. This agreement operated on a number of fronts 'helping' Jews
>>>to leave the country, breaking the ring of the boycott, exporting German
>>>goods in large quantities to Palestine, and last but not least, enabling the
>>>regime to be seen as humane and reasonable even towards its avowed enemies,
>>>the Jews. After all, they argued, the Jews do not belong in Europe and now
>>>the Jews come and agree with them.
>>>
>>>After news of the agreement broke, the boycott was doomed. If the Zionist
>>>Organisation found it possible and necessary to deal with the Nazis, and
>>>import their goods, who could argue for a boycott? This was not the first
>>>time that the interests of both movements were presented to the German
>>>public as complementary. Baron Von Mildenstein, the first head of the Jewish
>>>Department of the SS, later followed by Eichmann, was invited to travel to
>>>Palestine. This he did in early 1933, in the company of a Zionist leader,
>>>Kurt Tuchler. Having spent six months in Palestine, he wrote a series of
>>>favourable articles in Der Sturmer describing the 'new Jew' of Zionism, a
>>>Jew Nazis could accept and understand.
>>>
>>>This little-known episode established quite clearly the relationship during
>>>the early days of Nazism, between the new regime and the ZVfD, a
>>>relationship that was echoed later in a number of key instances, even after
>>>the nature of the Final Solution became clear. In many cases this meant a
>>>silencing of reports about the horrors of the exterminations. A book
>>>concentrating on this aspect of the Zionist reaction to the Holocaust is
>>>Post-Ugandan Zionism in the Crucible of the Holocaust, by S.B. Beth-Zvi.
>>>
>>>In the case of the Kastner episode, around which Jim Allen's play PERDITION
>>>is based, even the normal excuse of lack of knowledge of the real nature of
>>>events does not exist. It occurred near the end of the war. The USSR had
>>>advanced almost up to Germany. Italy and the African bases had been lost.
>>>The Nazis were on the run, with a number of key countries, such as Rumania,
>>>leaving the Axis. A second front was a matter of months away, as the western
>>>Allies prepared their forces. In the midst of all this we find Eichmann, the
>>>master bureaucrat of industrial murder, setting up is HQ in occupied
>>>Budapest, after the German takeover of the country in April 1944. His first
>>>act was to have a conference with the Jewish leadership, and to appoint
>>>Zionist Federation members, headed by Kastner, as the agent and clearing
>>>house for all Jews in their relationship with the SS and Nazi authorities.
>>>Why they did this is not difficult to see. As opposed to Poland, where its
>>>three and half million Jews lived in ghettoes and were visible different
>>>from the rest of the Polish population, the Hungarian Jews were in
>>>integrated part of the community. The middle class was mainly Jewish, the
>>>Jews were mainly middle class. They enjoyed freedom of travel, served in the
>>>Hungarian (fascist) army in frontline units, as officers and soldiers, their
>>>names were Hungarian - how was Eichmann to find them if they were to be
>>>exterminated ? The task was not easy, there were a million Jews in Hungary,
>>>most of them resident, the rest being refugees from other countries. Many
>>>had heard about the fate of Jews elsewhere, and were unlikely to believe any
>>>statements by Nazi officials.
>>>
>>>Like elsewhere, the only people who had the information and the ear of the
>>>frightened Jewish population were the Judenrat. In this case the Judenrat
>>>comprised mainly the Zionist Federation members. Without their help the SS,
>>>with 19 officers and less than 90 men, plus a few hundred Hungarian police,
>>>could not have collected and controlled a million Jews, when they did not
>>>even know their whereabouts. Kastner and the others were left under no
>>>illusions. Eichmann told Joel Brand, one of the members of Kastner's
>>>committee, that he intended to send all Hungary's Jews to Auschwitz, before
>>>he even started the expulsions! He told them clearly that all these Jews
>>>will die, 12,000 a day, unless certain conditions were met.
>>>
>>>The Committee faced a simple choice - to tell the Jews of Hungary about
>>>their fate, (with neutral Rumania, where many could escape, being in most
>>>cases a few hours away) or to collaborate with the Nazis by assisting in the
>>>concentration process. What would not have been believed when coming from
>>>the SS, sounded quite plausible when coming from the mouths of the Zionist
>>>leadership. Thus it is, that most of the Hungarian Jews went quietly to
>>>their death, assured by their leadership that they were sent to work camps.
>>>
>>>To be sure, there are thirty pieces of silver in this narrative of
>>>destruction: the trains of 'prominents' which Eichmann promised to Kastner -
>>>a promise he kept to the last detail. For Eichmann it was a bargain:
>>>allowing 1,680 Jews to survive, as the price paid for the silent
>>>collaboration over the death of almost a million Jews.
>>>
>>>There was no way in which the Jews of Hungary could even be located, not to
>>>say murdered, without the full collaboration of Kastner and his few friends.
>>>No doubt the SS would hunt a few Jews here and there, but the scale of the
>>>operation would have been minuscule compared to the half million who died in
>>>Auschwitz.
>>>
>>>It is important to realise that Kastner was not an aberration, like say
>>>Rumkovky in Lodz. Kastner acted as a result of his strongly held Zionist
>>>convictions. His actions were a logical outcome of earlier positions. This
>>>is instanced when he exposed to the Gestapo the existence of a British cell
>>>of saboteurs, Palgi and Senesh, and persuaded them to give themselves up, so
>>>as not to disrupt his operations. At no point during his trial or elsewhere,
>>>did Kastner deny that he knew exactly what was to happen to those Jews.
>>>
>>>To conclude, the role played by Zionists in this period, was connected to
>>>another role they could, and should have played, that of alarming the whole
>>>world to what was happening in Europe. They had the information, but
>>>politically it was contrary to their priorities. The priorities were, and
>>>still are, quite simple: All that furthers the Zionist enterprise in
>>>Palestine is followed, whatever the price. The lives of individuals, Jews
>>>and non-Jews, are secondary. If this process requires dealing with fascists,
>>>Nazis and other assorted dictatorial regimes across the world, so be it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>You'll find more at: http://www.alquds.org/palestine/
>>>
>>>
>>>



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On 31 Dec 1998 12:59:19 -0800, kmcvay (Ken McVay) wrote:


>>IF IT IS "ILLEGAL" AS YOU CLAIM,  under the Criminal Code, why is the
>>Jew Rabbi not charged??

>"The only cure for faggots is instant cremation!!!"

>"To completely eliminate AIDS, just get rid of all the disease-ridden 
>faggots - preferably by instant immolation." 

>"As a consequence, to eliminate AIDS, one should start by 
>eliminating,permanently, those responsible for the spread of AIDS - 
>the faggots." (Ibid.)



On Sat, 26 Dec 1998 19:04:05 GMT, kenmaggot@nazikor.niz.org wrote:

>In a move sure to anger orthodox Jews, as well as normal humans, newspapers
>across Canada report that a Winnipeg synagogue will perform marriages
>of same sex persons.

>This, even though there is no law in Canada permitting this!!!

>Rabbi Michael  Levenson of Temple Shalom admits that his actions are
>illegal. 


If his actions are illegal, why don't the authorities send him to
jail??


>He is quoted as saying that his ceremonies will be recognised
>from a religious point of view, not a political one. Levenson alleges
>that members of his temple supposedly supported his action.  However,
>even normal Jews are criticising this action. It seems that what this
>Jew is doing, is NOT acceptable, according to the Torah.


No wonder people think of the jews as mainly sodomites.



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On Mon, 09 Nov 1998 17:37:52 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Fri, 06 Nov 1998 15:04:09 GMT, golem88@gehenna.org wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 03 Nov 1998 20:13:38 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>>wrote:
>>
>>>>>On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:18:46 GMT, koyvay@nazikor.orgy wrote:
>>>>>>On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:52:01 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Notice that the gas station employee,according to an interview a week
>>>>>>>ago in local papers, McVay refuses to answer the questions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>>>>>>>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>>>>>>>because of the heat from the authorities!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, nationalist@juno.com (Michael )
>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>>>>>>>>>> will not answer the critical questions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Nothing new here.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>>>>>>>>>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>>>>>>>>>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>>>>>>>>>> it is NOT!!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Definitely not a charity.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won't Answer!!!!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>>>>>>>>>> answer??
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Is it really an international tax fraud?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> What have the I.R.S. to say??
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>>>>>>>>>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>>>>>>>>>> who can be reached at:
>>>>>>>>>>         http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>>>>>>>>>         webmaster@rc.gc.ca
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won't Answer is:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997  00:14:06 GMT
>>>>>>>>>> >From: Doctor detroit (Adjust@chiropractor.com)
>>>>>>>>>> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>>>>>>>>>> >Subject: to repeat the questions
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       1)      What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy's case it is the Order of British Columbia.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       2)      What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
>>>>>>>>>> >               letters?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>>>>>>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>>>>>>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>>>>>>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       3)      What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       4)      What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Probably written on McGoy's forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>>>>>>>Brith's butt.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>>>>>>>>>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       5)      What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       6)      Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>>>>>>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       7)      What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
>>>>>>>>>> >               solicit tax free contributions?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone "contributes" more than $10 that Bnai
>>>>>>>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>>>>>>>Canadian dollars. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
>>>>>>>>>> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
>>>>>>>>>> >OyVey???
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It's a reasonable assumption.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism dleonik@accesscomm.net
>>>>>>>>>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Check this out!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>>>>>>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken's "Big Lie"
>>>>>>>>letter just ask.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Nizkor Funding
>>>>>>>>>> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>>>>>>>>>> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>>>>>>>>>> >of B'nai Brith Canada ...with the cheque's memo including "Nizkor
>>>>>>>>>> >Project". ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>>>>>>>>>> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
>>>>>>>>>> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>>>>>>>>>> >Excite Search---Search: "nizkor"
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >"From B'nai Brith's 1996 'Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents':
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>  The League is working closely
>>>>>>>>>> >with Ken McVay's Nizkor Project (http://www.nizkor.org) through the
>>>>>>>>>> >"Holocaust and Hope" program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>>>>>>>>> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>>>>>>>>> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic.  The creation of a
>>>>>>>>>> >B'nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>>>>>>>>> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>>>>>>>>> >incidents directly to the National Office."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
>>>>>>>>>> >promote Jewish interests. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>That is putting it "lightly".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >If any of them are White Americans then they
>>>>>>>>>> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
>>>>>>>>>> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky's book "By Way of
>>>>>>>>Deception". Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>>>>>>>the Nizkooks are up to.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >The Hoax of the Century, even if real, has nothing to do with America,
>>>>>>>>>> >nor should we feel obligated to compensate Jews with 'loan' grants or
>>>>>>>>>> >even give them one second of our time watching their stupid hoax
>>>>>>>>>> >dramatizations.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Nizkor and Hollywood are both just two tentacles grasping and clawing
>>>>>>>>>> >their way into White America's good nature and generousity.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >NO MORE!  The Jews should pay back the $77 billion dollars plus
>>>>>>>>>> >interest immediately, and the Nizkor abomination should be shut down
>>>>>>>>>> >and the nonJewish elements tried for high treason.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >You too can be apart of this great reckoning.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>nationalist@juno.com
>>>>>>>>"http://www.natall.com"
>>>>>>>>"http://www.natvan.com"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>National Vanguard Books
>>>>>>>>P.O. Box 330
>>>>>>>>Hillsboro, WV   24946
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"No man has come to true greatness who has not felt
>>>>>>>>in some degree that his life belongs to his race."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                                ----Phillips Brooks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>+++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Get the text of American Dissident Voices broadcasts by e-mail! 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Subscribe to our mailing list by sending an e-mail message to:
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>>>>>>sven88



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On Fri, 25 Dec 1998 02:16:31 GMT, koyvay@nazikor.org wrote:

>On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:46:32 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>>On Sat, 04 Apr 1998 15:50:56 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>
>>>It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
>>>Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
>>>authorities in both canada and the USA!!!
>
>>>On 28 Mar 1998 19:27:41 GMT, kmcvay@nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay SOB)
>>>wrote:
>
>>>Feel free to forward your complaints also to revenue Canada, either by
>>>phone or E-mail.
>>>
>>>Notice that the gas station employee McVay, his employment exposed in
>>>an interview a week ago in local papers,  refuses to answer the
>>>questions.
>>>
>>>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>>>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.
>>>
>>>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>>>because of the heat from the authorities!!!
>>>
>>>One must wonder whether he is so rejected by the Jews in B.C>, that he
>>>had to go to Edmonton to hold a meeting??
>>>
>>>Or, could it be that in Alberta Canada, there are more thinking
>>>people, who reject the garbage disseminated by OyVay and his gang??
>>>
>>>Perhaps some of the others in North America interested in discussing
>>>the Holohoax will also respond.
>>>
>>>>>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, nationalist@juno.com (Michael )
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote
>>>
>>>>>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>>>>>> will not answer the critical questions.
>>>
>>>>>>Nothing new here.
>>>
>>>>>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>>>>>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>>>>>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>>>>>> it is NOT!!!
>>>
>>>>>>Definitely not a charity.
>>>
>>>Revenue Canada Taxation - Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>>Canada!!!
>>>
>>>They can be reached directly, for filing complaints, at:
>>>	Telephone to: 1-800-267-2384
>>>
>>>Also, you can E-mail complaints about Nizkor, to them, at:
>>>	http://www.rc.gc.ca/charities
>>>
>>>An alternative telephone number for fraud complaints is 
>>>Special Investigations Revenue Canada at:
>>>	telephone # 204-983-1829
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won't Answer!!!!
>>>>>> 
>>>
>>>>>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>>>>>> answer??
>>>
>>>>>> Is it really an international tax fraud?
>>>
>>>>>> What have the I.R.S. to say??
>>>
>>>>>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>>>>>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.
>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>>>>>> who can be reached at:
>>>         http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html
>>>
>>>>>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>>>>>         webmaster@rc.gc.ca, or
>>>>>>	 http://www.rc.gc.ca
>>>
>>>	 In Message, put first line of message as: 
>>>	ATTENTION SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
>>>             or telephone to: 204-983-1829
>>>
>>>	They are waiting for your complaints
>>>
>>>>> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won't Answer is:
>>>
>>>>> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997  00:14:06 GMT
>>>>> >From: Doctor detroit (Adjust@chiropractor.com)
>>>>> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>>>>> >Subject: to repeat the questions
>>>
>>>>> >       Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.
>>>
>>>>> >       1)      What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?
>>>
>>>>>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy's case it is the Order of British Columbia.
>>>
>>>>> >       2)      What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
>>>>> >               letters?
>>>
>>>>>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>>>>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>>>>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>>>>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.
>>>
>>>>> >       3)      What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>>>
>>>>> >       4)      What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>>>
>>>>>>Probably written on McGoy's forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>>>>>Brith's butt.
>>>
>>>>>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>>>>>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay
>>>
>>>>>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.
>>>
>>>>> >       5)      What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>>>
>>>>> >       6)      Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?
>>>
>>>>>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>>>>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.
>>>
>>>>> >       7)      What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
>>>>> >               solicit tax free contributions?
>>>
>>>>>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone "contributes" more than $10 that Bnai
>>>>>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>>>>>Canadian dollars. 
>>>
>>>>> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
>>>>> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.
>>>
>>>>> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
>>>>> >OyVey???
>>>
>>>>>>It's a reasonable assumption.
>>>
>>>>> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.
>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism dleonik@accesscomm.net
>>>>>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:
>>>
>>>>> >Check this out!
>>>
>>>>>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>>>>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken's "Big Lie"
>>>>>>letter just ask.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >Nizkor Funding
>>>>> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>>>>> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>>>>> >of B'nai Brith Canada ...with the cheque's memo including "Nizkor
>>>>> >Project". ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>>>>> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
>>>>> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>>>>> >Excite Search---Search: "nizkor"
>>>
>>>>> >"From B'nai Brith's 1996 'Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents':
>>>
>>>>>>  The League is working closely
>>>>> >with Ken McVay's Nizkor Project (http://www.nizkor.org) through the
>>>>> >"Holocaust and Hope" program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>>>> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>>>> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic.  The creation of a
>>>>> >B'nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>>>> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>>>> >incidents directly to the National Office."
>>>
>>>>>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
>>>>> >promote Jewish interests. 
>>>
>>>>>>That is putting it "lightly".
>>>
>>>>>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky's book "By Way of
>>>>>>Deception". Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>>>>>the Nizkooks are up to.
>>>
>>>>>>nationalist@juno.com
>>>>>>"http://www.natall.com"
>>>>>>"http://www.natvan.com"
>>>
>>>>>>National Vanguard Books
>>>>>>P.O. Box 330
>>>>>>Hillsboro, WV   24946
>>>
>>>>>>Get the text of American Dissident Voices broadcasts by e-mail! 
>>>
>>>>>>Subscribe to our mailing list by sending an e-mail message to:
>>>>>>ADVlist@ListServe.com which contains the 
>>>>>>word _subscribe_ as the subject of your message.
>>>>>> You may also get them from our FTP site at: ftp://natvan.com 
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>Revenue Canada Taxation - Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>>>>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>>>>>Canada!!!
>>>
>>>>>show us where Nizkor has ever claimed to have one.
>>>
>>>>All you need do, is read above, or get your orderly to read for you.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Just print this form, and send a money order for $25, and see whether
>>>>>or not you get a valid tax receipt in return.... and see if it comes
>>>>>from anthing called "Nizkor," or claims that it would... won't that be
>>>>>fun, Bill? If you don't get that valid reciept, well geewhilikers,
>>>>>you've got me, eh?
>>>
>>>>>Please print this form and send to: 
>>>>>The Nizkor Project 
>>>>>c/o 
>>>>>The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada 
>>>>>xxxxxx Street 
>>>>>Toronto, Ontario  
>>>
>>>>>Name:________________________________________ 
>>>>>Street Address:________________________________________________ 
>>>>>City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______ 
>>>>>E-Mail Address:_________________________________ 
>>>>>Amount Enclosed: $___________ 
>>>
>>>>>Please make your donations payable to "The League for Human Rights of
>>>>>B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the
>>>>>cheque's memo section. 
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
>>>>>[#0235903-43-13] 
>>>
>>>



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On Wed, 19 Aug 1998 18:01:53 -0400, Basil Keilani
 wrote:


>	Often, when one deals with the right Israelis and Jews, rather
>than admit injustices, they engage in insults and try to intimidate the
>other side.  They believe they can intimidate the other side, by claiming
>they are anti-Semitic.  However, it does not work, the Berlin wall of
>Israeli bigotry will fall along with their allies.  We say no to Zionist
>racism vis-a-vis Gentiles and Secular Jews.  Actually, Zionism has been
>one of the greatest enemies towards the name of Jews and Judaism.
>So it is anti-Semitic, for a kind-hearted, honest Jew who believes
>in the One God.--------Basil
>
>Article by Dr Alfred Lilienthal
>
>	"Why did the Jews, through, their own leaders, cooperate with the
>Nazis in their own destruction?"; Why did the Jews abandon their
>apparently successful economic boycott of pre-WWII Germany?"; and, "Why
>did millions of Jews go to their deaths like lambs to the slaughter?"
>	These were just some of the major queries raised by Jewish
>intellectuals and historians like Ben Hecht and, especially, Hannah
>Arendt.  Arendt called the Zionist complicity in the tragedy one of the
>"darkest pages" in the history of their race.  Many found the questions
>raised by Arendt and Hecht too painful to face directly.
>	Pius XII (POPE), now dead, became a convenient target for revenge
>and distraction from the issue of Zionist complicity raised by the
>dissidents.  Both Zionists and non-Jews began accusing Pius XII of
>responsibility for the death of the Jews by his called "silence" regarding
>mass exterminations.
>	The Christian-bashers regularly portrayed Pius XII, in plays,
>articles, books, movies and television documentaries, as a tool of the
>capitalists, an uncaring bureaucrat, and a heartless cleric.  Nothing
>could have been further from the truth, but these slanders continue until
>the present day.
>
>Dr. Alfred Lilienthal, "The Truth at last about Pope Pius and the 
>Holocaust", Washington Report, May/June 1998, p.30
>
>
>



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On 31 Dec 1998 12:59:19 -0800, kmcvay (Ken McVay) wrote:


>>IF IT IS "ILLEGAL" AS YOU CLAIM,  under the Criminal Code, why is the
>>Jew Rabbi not charged??

>"The only cure for faggots is instant cremation!!!"

>"To completely eliminate AIDS, just get rid of all the disease-ridden 
>faggots - preferably by instant immolation." 

>"As a consequence, to eliminate AIDS, one should start by 
>eliminating,permanently, those responsible for the spread of AIDS - 
>the faggots." (Ibid.)



On Sat, 26 Dec 1998 19:04:05 GMT, kenmaggot@nazikor.niz.org wrote:

>In a move sure to anger orthodox Jews, as well as normal humans, newspapers
>across Canada report that a Winnipeg synagogue will perform marriages
>of same sex persons.

>This, even though there is no law in Canada permitting this!!!

>Rabbi Michael  Levenson of Temple Shalom admits that his actions are
>illegal. 


If his actions are illegal, why don't the authorities send him to
jail??


>He is quoted as saying that his ceremonies will be recognised
>from a religious point of view, not a political one. Levenson alleges
>that members of his temple supposedly supported his action.  However,
>even normal Jews are criticising this action. It seems that what this
>Jew is doing, is NOT acceptable, according to the Torah.


No wonder people think of the jews as mainly sodomites.



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>On Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:02:29 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>wrote:
>>On Mon, 22 Sep 1997 17:28:24 GMT, odessa88@direct.ca wrote:

>>>If there were so many documented JEWS in the German military, one MUST
>>>question how many may have died in WWII!!!
>>>
>>>It seems that the number keeps on increasing, by mythical magic, just
>>>as each new lawsuit demanding reparations is filed!!!
>>>
>>>In other words, soon the number of damn JEW claimants for alleged
>>>demise in WWII will exceed the populations of all the countries
>>>involved.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 02:43:34 GMT, vagabond@idirect.com (William
>>>Markiewicz) wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>For a fair approximation of the number of victims, the extent of
>>>>Jewish life in pre-war Europe must be looked at.  See the
>>>>Communication Page, August 97 issue 
>>>>http://web.idirect.com/~vagabond
>>>
>>>sperati wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>>>> From: stefan lemieszewski 
>>>> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>>>> 
>>>> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>>>> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>>>> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>>>> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>>>> 
>>>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>>> titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
>>>> appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>>>> to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>>>> >>Stefan Lemieszewski
>>>> 
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> North Shore News
>>>> February 2, 1997
>>>> 
>>>> Insights from abroad
>>>> Doug Collins
>>>> 
>>>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>>> that is ignored in Canada.
>>>> 
>>>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>>> served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
>>>> 
>>>> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>>>> about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
>>>> 
>>>> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>>>> was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
>>>> transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
>>>> 
>>>> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
>>>> married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>>>> generals, and 23 colonels.
>>>> 
>>>> Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
>>>> Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>>>> more. The research is continuing.
>>>> 
>>>> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>>>> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>>>> alive.
>>>> 
>>>> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>>>> father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
>>>> 
>>>> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>>>> whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
>>>> 
>>>> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>>>> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>>>> 
>>>> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>>>> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>>>> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>>>> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>>>> documents in the process.
>>>> 
>>>> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>>>> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew
>>>> could ever have fought for Hitler.
>>>> 
>>>> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
>>>> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
>>>> 
>>>> He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
>>>> about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>>>> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
>>>> 
>>>> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may be
>>>> used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers of
>>>> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>>>> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>>>> 
>>>> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>>>> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>>>> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>>>> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>>>> 
>>>> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>>>> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>>>> was a Jew.
>>>> 
>>>> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>>>> 
>>>> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>>>> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>>>> one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
>>>> 
>>>> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>>>> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>>>> 
>>>> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>>>> knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced to a
>>>> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>>>> 
>>>> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>>>> 
>>>> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>>>> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>>>> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>>>> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>>>> plotting against Hitler.
>>>> 
>>>> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>>>> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>>>> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>>>> to it that he was discharged from the army.
>>>> 
>>>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>>> wonder why?
>>>> 
>>>> ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>>>> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>>>> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>>>> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>>>
>>>
>>>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>>>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>>>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!



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>On Wed, 11 Nov 1998 15:24:40 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>>On Sun, 19 Jul 1998 22:06:50 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>>>On 1 May 1998 13:08:00 +0200, Irmin@nsm.htp.org wrote:
>
>>>>American Dissident Voices Broadcast of April 25, 1998
>>>>
>>>>Katyn
>>>>by Dr. William Pierce
>>>>
>>>>A background noise that seems never to go away is the constant 
>>>>whining and yammering of the Jews about how the world owes them a 
>>>>living because of their losses during the so-called "Holocaust." 
>>>>They do it, of course, because they make such a big profit on it. 
>>>>The latest flare-up of this Jewish play for a handout came more 
>>>>than a year ago when they began demanding that the Swiss pay them 
>>>>$7 billion, which "Holocaust" victims allegedly had stashed in 
>>>>numbered Swiss accounts before being hauled off to gas chambers 
>>>>during the Second World War.
>>>>
>>>>With a few "bought" Gentile politicians fronting for them, the 
>>>>foremost among these being New York's Senator Alphonse D'Amato, 
>>>>the Jews threatened Switzerland with a boycott by the U.S. 
>>>>government if their demands were not met. Instead of laughing in 
>>>>their faces, telling the Jews to go to hell, and gearing up for 
>>>>countermeasures against Israel and other Jewish interests if the 
>>>>Jews tried to proceed with a boycott, the Swiss politicians tried 
>>>>to placate the Jews by offering to buy themoff. The Jews took the 
>>>>Swiss response as a sign of weakness and escalated their demands.
>>>>
>>>>The average Swiss citizen seems to have a little more pride than
>>>>Switzerland's elected officials, however, and resentment against 
>>>>the Jews' extortion efforts is building in Switzerland now to the 
>>>>point that some of that country's richest Jews are wearing 
>>>>bulletproof vests whenever they must go out in public.
>>>>
>>>>In general, however, this "Holocaust"-based extortion racket 
>>>>works quite well for the Jews, and they have expanded their 
>>>>demands for World War Two reparations to include a number of 
>>>>other countries besides Switzerland. They are even whining that 
>>>>the Vatican owes them because Pope Pius XII didn't do enough to 
>>>>save them from the Germans during the war. The Jews' brazenness 
>>>>in this whole business is quite breathtaking.
>>>>
>>>>Their brazenness, of course, is justified, because by and large 
>>>>they have been getting away with it. And they have been getting 
>>>>away with it because with their media control they have been able 
>>>>to distort the general public's whole perception of what happened 
>>>>during the Second World War. They have been able to portray 
>>>>themselves as innocent victims and just about everyone else as 
>>>>persecutors and aggressors, even the people who were fighting on 
>>>>the Jewish side against the Germans during the war. For example, 
>>>>they have done quite a bit of whining that after the Red Army 
>>>>drove the Germans from Poland, the Poles took the opportunity to 
>>>>lynch hundreds of Jews in 1945 and 1946: Jews whom the Germans 
>>>>somehow had failed to get rid of during their wartime occupation
>>>>of Poland.
>>>>
>>>>Now, why would the Poles do something like that? Why would they 
>>>>lynch the poor Jews, who had been on their side during the war? 
>>>>If you learned about the war from watching Steven Spielberg 
>>>>propaganda films and other mass-media sources, you probably 
>>>>believe that it was because of religious anti-Semitism on the 
>>>>part of the Catholic Poles. Let me tell you the real reason why 
>>>>so many Poles hated Jews after the war. It's something the 
>>>>Jew-controlled media in America have tried hard to keep covered 
>>>>up. Let me tell you about what happened in the Katyn forest
>>>>in 1940.
>>>>
>>>>In September 1939 Poland was invaded from the west by Germany and 
>>>>from the east by the Soviet Union. The Germans wanted back the 
>>>>territory in western Poland, including the city of Danzig, which 
>>>>had been taken from them at the end of the First World War. The 
>>>>Soviets wanted eastern Poland. The Germans and the Soviets 
>>>>divided Poland between them, with the boundary running roughly 
>>>>along the River Bug.
>>>>
>>>>Britain and France, both under strong Jewish pressure, declared 
>>>>war on Germany in September 1939, ostensibly because of Germany's 
>>>>invasion of Poland. They did not declare war on the Soviet Union, 
>>>>which also had invaded Poland. In the United States and in 
>>>>western Europe, where the Jews held a deathgrip on the mass 
>>>>media, a great deal of anti-German propaganda was based on the 
>>>>German grab for Polish territory -- much of which, of course, 
>>>>actually was historically German territory -- and nothing was 
>>>>said of the Soviet occupation and annexation of eastern Poland.
>>>>
>>>>The reason for this anti-German and pro-Soviet bias by the Jewish 
>>>>media was that the Jews were riding high in the Soviet Union as 
>>>>commissars and communist party bosses under Stalin, while in 
>>>>Germany Hitler had undertaken a program since 1933 of freeing 
>>>>Germany from all Jewish influence. Jews had been weeded out of 
>>>>the media, the law, the schools, and other areas of economic and 
>>>>cultural life in Germany. Before Hitler became chancellor in 1933 
>>>>the Jews had done in Germany what they do in every country where 
>>>>they gain a foothold: they had monopolized large sections of the 
>>>>mass media and certain professions and were doing their best to 
>>>>distort German culture, German society, and the German economy
>>>>to suit themselves. Hitler put a stop to that, and two-thirds of 
>>>>the 1933 Jewish population of Germany had emigrated by the 
>>>>invasion of Poland in September 1939. So the Jews hated Germany 
>>>>and were determined to do whatever they could to destroy her.
>>>>
>>>>For his part, Hitler hoped to avoid war with Britain and France. 
>>>>He hoped that after his quick victory in western Poland he could 
>>>>make peace with Britain and France. He was determined, however, 
>>>>to stamp out communism wherever he encountered it. Not only did 
>>>>he hate communism on ideological grounds, but he had sworn to 
>>>>fight communism when the communists in Germany betrayed his 
>>>>country at the end of the First World War. Hitler also saw the 
>>>>Soviet Union as a threat to all of Europe, and he was determined 
>>>>to break the power of that country when he could, even though 
>>>>there was an uneasy non-aggression pact between Germany and the
>>>>Soviet Union in 1939, at the time of their partition of Poland.
>>>>
>>>>In the spring of 1941 massive troop movements and other 
>>>>developments inside the Soviet Union convinced Hitler that Stalin 
>>>>was preparing to invade the west with the Red Army, and so in 
>>>>June 1941 Hitler made a preemptive strike. German forces smashed 
>>>>through the Red Army and made rapid advances, first through 
>>>>Soviet-occupied eastern Poland and then through Ukraine and into 
>>>>Russia.
>>>>
>>>>A year and a half later, in February 1943, German forces near 
>>>>Smolensk, in western Russia, investigated reports they heard from 
>>>>Russian civilians to the effect that a large number of prisoners 
>>>>had been murdered by the Soviet secret police in the area nearly 
>>>>three years earlier. The German investigators were led by local 
>>>>Russians to a series of mounds in a wooded area known locally as 
>>>>Katyn Forest, about 10 miles west of Smolensk. The forest is 
>>>>named for a village, Katyn, which it surrounds. The forest had 
>>>>been privately owned prior to the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917, 
>>>>but after the communist takeover of Russia the area had been 
>>>>confiscated by the government and part of the forest had been
>>>>turned over to the NKVD, the Soviet equivalent of the American 
>>>>FBI.
>>>>
>>>>The Germans began digging in the mounds in the Katyn forest and 
>>>>made a horrible discovery. They found corpse after corpse, each 
>>>>with its hands bound behind its back and a bullet hole in the 
>>>>base of its skull. They continued their excavations for more than 
>>>>a month, and eventually uncovered more than 4,000 corpses. Other 
>>>>bodies may have remained buried in other mounds, but the Germans 
>>>>had no time to dig up the whole forest. Instead they called in 
>>>>the International Red Cross and representatives of various 
>>>>neutral countries to examine their findings. They also brought in 
>>>>groups of Allied prisoners of war, including Americans, from
>>>>prison camps in Germany to view the graves in the Katyn forest. 
>>>>They gave these international inspectors complete freedom to 
>>>>examine the exhumed bodies, permitted doctors among them to 
>>>>conduct autopsies, even allowed them to dig up other bodies from 
>>>>one of the mounds which had not been completely excavated. The 
>>>>Germans asked only that the inspectors report back truthfully to 
>>>>their own governments about their observations. And in fact, most 
>>>>of them did.
>>>>
>>>>What they reported was that the bodies were those of Polish 
>>>>military officers, along with a number of civilian cultural and 
>>>>business leaders and intellectuals -- scientists, writers, poets 
>>>>-- who had been in the portion of Poland occupied by the Soviet 
>>>>Union in September 1939. Altogether the Soviet secret police had 
>>>>rounded up some 15,000 Polish leaders in 1939 -- including nearly 
>>>>half of the entire Polish officer's corps, the half that had had 
>>>>the misfortune of being in eastern Poland at the time -- and put 
>>>>them in three concentration camps in Russia: at Starobelsk, 
>>>>Kozelsk, and Ostashkov. All of the bodies unearthed in the
>>>>Katyn forest were of Polish leaders who had been confined at one 
>>>>of these camps: Starobelsk.
>>>>
>>>>Rounding up a country's leaders and killing them was standard 
>>>>practice for the communists. The theory was that the leaders were 
>>>>bourgeois oppressors of the working class and deserved to die. As 
>>>>egalitarians the communists did not regard the Polish officers 
>>>>and intellectuals as inherently better or more valuable human 
>>>>material than the average Polish criminal or welfare bum; the 
>>>>officers had simply used their class advantage to gain a better 
>>>>life-style for themselves. Of course, no one really believed that 
>>>>theory except the criminals and welfare bums and other resentful 
>>>>losers and ne'er-do-wells who made up the natural communist 
>>>>constituency. As a practical matter, however, killing all the
>>>>leaders and potential leaders of a conquered people made them 
>>>>easier to govern. That's what the Marxists had done in Russia, 
>>>>Ukraine, and the Baltic countries.
>>>>
>>>>In the case of the Poles there was a bit of a diplomatic problem,
>>>>though. The Poles supported the war Britain and France had 
>>>>declared against Germany, purportedly on their behalf, because 
>>>>they viewed that as their one hope for getting back at least the 
>>>>western part of their country. They were not happy about the 
>>>>Russians taking the eastern part of Poland, but the Russians at 
>>>>least were fellow Slavs. The thing to do was get rid of the 
>>>>Germans first and then worry about the Russians. This Polish 
>>>>strategy suited Stalin fine. But it made it desirable for him to
>>>>avoid alienating the Poles any more than necessary. When Polish 
>>>>exiles asked about their imprisoned leaders in late 1939 and 
>>>>early 1940, the Soviet government promised that they would be 
>>>>released shortly. Meanwhile, the decision had been made to kill 
>>>>all of them. And so in April 1940 the Polish leaders were taken 
>>>>from the three camps where they had been imprisoned, trucked off 
>>>>to various liquidation sites, and murdered. The ones who had been 
>>>>imprisoned at Starobelsk all went to the NKVD area of the Katyn 
>>>>forest. After the war some of the NKVD executioners were 
>>>>interviewed in Israel and described how they had carried out the 
>>>>killings.
>>>>
>>>>The Poles were driven up to the burial pits in long NKVD prison 
>>>>trucks known as "black ravens." They were pulled from the trucks 
>>>>one at a time by NKVD guards. Each Polish prisoner had his hands 
>>>>bound behind his back and then was dragged to the edge of a pit. 
>>>>There he was held by two NKVD men while a third fired a pistol 
>>>>bullet into the back of his head. Some of the officers had had 
>>>>their coats pulled over their heads to keep them from seeing what 
>>>>was happening before they were shot. Some struggled and were 
>>>>bayonetted by NKVD guards before being shot and thrown into the
>>>>pit. When all of the officers from Starobelsk had been killed, 
>>>>some 4,400 of them, the Katyn forest burial pits were covered 
>>>>with dirt and pine trees were planted on them. The locations of 
>>>>the mass graves of the prisoners from the camps at Kozelsk and 
>>>>Ostashkov remain unknown, but none of the 15,000 Polish officers 
>>>>and intellectuals rounded up by the NKVD in September 1939 was 
>>>>seen alive after April 1940.
>>>>
>>>>The Red Cross representatives and the Allied prisoners the 
>>>>Germans brought in to examine the mass graves in the Katyn forest 
>>>>understood after their examination not only who had been killed; 
>>>>they also understood who had killed them. This was apparent not 
>>>>only from the medical estimates of the length of time the bodies 
>>>>had been buried, but also from documentary evidence on the 
>>>>bodies. Diaries, news clippings, letters, and other personal 
>>>>papers removed from the clothing of the victims all told the same 
>>>>story: the latest dates on any of these papers were from 
>>>>mid-April 1940. The Polish leaders had been killed in April 1940, 
>>>>when they were prisoners of the Soviet Union and when the Katyn
>>>>region was under Soviet control. And this is what they reported 
>>>>back to their governments.
>>>>
>>>>So what do you think happened? Were the British and American 
>>>>governments horrified to discover that their "gallant Soviet 
>>>>ally," as the Soviet Union was referred to by the mass media, was 
>>>>a mass murderer? Did the British government, which had gone to 
>>>>war against Germany under the pretext of defending Poland, decide 
>>>>that it had made a mistake? Did anyone condemn the Soviet Union 
>>>>for this act of genocide against the Poles?
>>>>
>>>>Of course not! The Allied governments ordered their people who 
>>>>had inspected the Katyn site to keep their mouths shut, and the 
>>>>Jewish media immediately began announcing that the Germans had 
>>>>done it. A mass murder of Polish officers and intellectuals by 
>>>>the Nazis had been discovered in the Katyn forest, the New York 
>>>>Times and the rest of the Jewish media shrieked. Poor Poles! 
>>>>Wicked Germans! The war must go on to free the poor Poles and 
>>>>punish the wicked Germans. And the war did go on, killing
>>>>millions of more Germans, British, Americans, and other 
>>>>Europeans. And the Germans were indeed punished. The Poles, of 
>>>>course, were not freed. Instead they were turned over to the 
>>>>Reds, who had butchered their leaders in the Katyn forest, and 
>>>>made to suffer under communist rule for half a century.
>>>>
>>>>The war went on after the German discovery of the mass graves in 
>>>>the Katyn forest, because its purpose from the beginning was not 
>>>>to free Poland but to destroy Germany, which had dared to free 
>>>>itself from the Jews. Roosevelt understood this. Churchill 
>>>>understood this. But the American and British people didn't 
>>>>understand it, of course, because they were lied to by the Jewish 
>>>>media and by their own governments, who in 1943 as in 1998 have 
>>>>done whatever has been politically expedient. And what has been 
>>>>politically expedient has been what the Jewish media bosses have 
>>>>decided.
>>>>
>>>>The lies about Katyn were maintained by the media for some years 
>>>>after the end of the war, because these lies meshed nicely with 
>>>>the "Holocaust" story which was making so much money for the 
>>>>Jews. Nowadays, of course, the truth about the Katyn murders is 
>>>>generally accepted by historians everywhere. You can go into 
>>>>almost any large library and read about it and even see the 
>>>>gruesome photographs that the Germans took of the Polish bodies 
>>>>they dug up. One of several authoritative books on the subject is 
>>>>J.K. Zawodny's Death in the Forest: the Story of the Katyn
>>>>Forest Massacre, published in 1962 by the University of Notre 
>>>>Dame Press. None of this is publicized a la Steven Spielberg, of 
>>>>course, for the illumination of American television audiences. It 
>>>>still might undermine the Jews' "Holocaust" racket.
>>>>
>>>>In 1945 and 1946, although the deceived citizens of the western 
>>>>world didn't know the truth about Katyn, Polish patriots did. The 
>>>>word had gotten back to the Polish prisoners in German camps from 
>>>>the Poles the Germans had taken to examine the graves. After the 
>>>>war, when these Polish prisoners were freed, the word spread to 
>>>>other Poles. They knew that it was the communists, not the Nazis, 
>>>>who had murdered their leaders, who had beheaded their nation. 
>>>>And they knew who was behind communism, from the Jew Karl Marx, 
>>>>who had started the whole business, up to the Jewish commissars 
>>>>who lorded it over them in Soviet-occupied Poland. They knew who 
>>>>had welcomed their Soviet conquerors and then collaborated with 
>>>>those conquerors. And so it is hardly surprising that in 1945 and 
>>>>1946 a few Polish patriots organized lynchings of Jews in Poland, 
>>>>before the Reds had a chance to clamp down on all of Poland and
>>>>suppress any further expressions of anti-communist or anti-Jewish
>>>>feeling.
>>>>
>>>>No, the Polish dislike of Jews isn't surprising. What is 
>>>>surprising is that so few patriots in America and Britain have 
>>>>expressed their outrage against the Jews, not only for what they 
>>>>did to the Poles during and after the war, but for what they have 
>>>>done to us: lying to us and using us to wage their wars for them. 
>>>>If patriots study the Katyn story and take its lesson to heart, 
>>>>they will understand why they cannot trust either the mass media 
>>>>or any government which dances to the tune played by the media. 
>>>>Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill were as much liars and 
>>>>traitors as Bill Clinton and Tony Blair.
>>>>
>>>>Anyway, you might remember Katyn the next time you hear the Jews 
>>>>or some of their bought politicians whining about how much gold 
>>>>was stolen from them by the Swiss or how badly the Poles and the 
>>>>Germans treated them during the Second World War.
>>>>
>>>>The text above is based on a broadcast of the American Dissident
>>>>Voices radio program sponsored by National Vanguard Books. To 
>>>>receive weekly ADV transcripts, mail: ADVlist@ListServe.com 
>>>>Write "subscribe" as the subject of your message. 
>>>>
>>>>++++++++++++++
>>>>
>>>>American Renaissance
>>>>http://www.amren.com
>>>>
>>>>Campaign for Radical Truth in History
>>>>http://www.hoffman-info.com
>>>>
>>>>Euro-American Students Union
>>>>http://esu.simplenet.com
>>>>
>>>>Katja Lane's Fourteen Word Press
>>>>http://www.14words.com
>>>>
>>>>National Alliance
>>>>http://www.natvan.com
>>>>
>>>>Stormfront
>>>>http://www.stormfront.org
>>>>
>>>>Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library
>>>>http://www.ddc.net/ygg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>



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On Mon, 09 Nov 1998 17:37:52 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Fri, 06 Nov 1998 15:04:09 GMT, golem88@gehenna.org wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 03 Nov 1998 20:13:38 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>>wrote:
>>
>>>>>On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:18:46 GMT, koyvay@nazikor.orgy wrote:
>>>>>>On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:52:01 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Notice that the gas station employee,according to an interview a week
>>>>>>>ago in local papers, McVay refuses to answer the questions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>>>>>>>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>>>>>>>because of the heat from the authorities!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, nationalist@juno.com (Michael )
>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>>>>>>>>>> will not answer the critical questions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Nothing new here.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>>>>>>>>>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>>>>>>>>>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>>>>>>>>>> it is NOT!!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Definitely not a charity.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won't Answer!!!!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>>>>>>>>>> answer??
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Is it really an international tax fraud?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> What have the I.R.S. to say??
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>>>>>>>>>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>>>>>>>>>> who can be reached at:
>>>>>>>>>>         http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>>>>>>>>>         webmaster@rc.gc.ca
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won't Answer is:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997  00:14:06 GMT
>>>>>>>>>> >From: Doctor detroit (Adjust@chiropractor.com)
>>>>>>>>>> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>>>>>>>>>> >Subject: to repeat the questions
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       1)      What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy's case it is the Order of British Columbia.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       2)      What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
>>>>>>>>>> >               letters?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>>>>>>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>>>>>>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>>>>>>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       3)      What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       4)      What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Probably written on McGoy's forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>>>>>>>Brith's butt.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>>>>>>>>>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       5)      What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       6)      Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>>>>>>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       7)      What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
>>>>>>>>>> >               solicit tax free contributions?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone "contributes" more than $10 that Bnai
>>>>>>>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>>>>>>>Canadian dollars. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
>>>>>>>>>> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
>>>>>>>>>> >OyVey???
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It's a reasonable assumption.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism dleonik@accesscomm.net
>>>>>>>>>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Check this out!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>>>>>>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken's "Big Lie"
>>>>>>>>letter just ask.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Nizkor Funding
>>>>>>>>>> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>>>>>>>>>> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>>>>>>>>>> >of B'nai Brith Canada ...with the cheque's memo including "Nizkor
>>>>>>>>>> >Project". ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>>>>>>>>>> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
>>>>>>>>>> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>>>>>>>>>> >Excite Search---Search: "nizkor"
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >"From B'nai Brith's 1996 'Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents':
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>  The League is working closely
>>>>>>>>>> >with Ken McVay's Nizkor Project (http://www.nizkor.org) through the
>>>>>>>>>> >"Holocaust and Hope" program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>>>>>>>>> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>>>>>>>>> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic.  The creation of a
>>>>>>>>>> >B'nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>>>>>>>>> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>>>>>>>>> >incidents directly to the National Office."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
>>>>>>>>>> >promote Jewish interests. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>That is putting it "lightly".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >If any of them are White Americans then they
>>>>>>>>>> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
>>>>>>>>>> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky's book "By Way of
>>>>>>>>Deception". Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>>>>>>>the Nizkooks are up to.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >The Hoax of the Century, even if real, has nothing to do with America,
>>>>>>>>>> >nor should we feel obligated to compensate Jews with 'loan' grants or
>>>>>>>>>> >even give them one second of our time watching their stupid hoax
>>>>>>>>>> >dramatizations.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Nizkor and Hollywood are both just two tentacles grasping and clawing
>>>>>>>>>> >their way into White America's good nature and generousity.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >NO MORE!  The Jews should pay back the $77 billion dollars plus
>>>>>>>>>> >interest immediately, and the Nizkor abomination should be shut down
>>>>>>>>>> >and the nonJewish elements tried for high treason.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >You too can be apart of this great reckoning.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>nationalist@juno.com
>>>>>>>>"http://www.natall.com"
>>>>>>>>"http://www.natvan.com"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>National Vanguard Books
>>>>>>>>P.O. Box 330
>>>>>>>>Hillsboro, WV   24946
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"No man has come to true greatness who has not felt
>>>>>>>>in some degree that his life belongs to his race."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                                ----Phillips Brooks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>+++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Get the text of American Dissident Voices broadcasts by e-mail! 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Subscribe to our mailing list by sending an e-mail message to:
>>>>>>>>ADVlist@ListServe.com which contains the 
>>>>>>>>word _subscribe_ as the subject of your message.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You may also get them from our FTP site at: ftp://natvan.com 
>>>>>>sven88



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On Wed, 07 Oct 1998 20:48:00 GMT, sbjarnason@heimat.zhid.org wrote:

>On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 18:31:48 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI
> wrote:
>
>>============
>>Just a moment ago, on soc.culture.polish, Dr. J. Ilicki, Associate
>>Professor of Sociology and Judaic Studies on Upsalla University raised
>>the question of Polish Polish in the service of Germans during
>>occupation of Poland.  The only reason for this question at this time
>>seems to be his need to stir interethnic hatered.  Provacatively, Dr.
>>Ilicki asks: 1) who were the members of the police, volunteers or
>>draftees?, 2) what was their social status? 3) what happened to them
>>after the war?  Just to play completely innocent (and dumb) he also asks
>>why they were called Granatowa (dark-navy-blue) Police.
>>
>>Only naive will believe that Prof. Ilicki does not know the answeres. 
>>Also only naive will believe that he is not interested in Pinsk the
>>hometown of his parents and allegedly the site of the burial of his
>>grandparents and over 30,000 pinksers (Jews from Pinsk).  He admitted
>>that his mother listed them as killed there with Yad Vashem.  However,
>>young (about 40 years old) Julian pretends disintrest, because he is
>>afraid that exhumations might start at the alleged burial site and will
>>find no skeletons as same happened last year at nearby Mariompole,
>>presently in Lithuania.
>>
>>But coming back to Dr Illicki question: Polish Police during German
>>occupation was  dramatically reduced in numbers and pre-war policemen
>>were forced to serve as an auxillary force to German Ordnung Polizei. 
>>They were ususally not armed, and when armed never given more than five
>>bullets for their long rifles.  Moreover, after each use of firearm they
>>(as well as the Ukraininan Police) had to write a report for what target
>>each bulett was used and with what effectivness, hardly an invitation to
>>the genocide.
>>
>>On the other hand there was a police force in the Third Reich, in which
>>service was completely voluntary.  It was called Ordnungdienst.  Their
>>emblem was a light alloy Star of David.  The social background of these
>>Jewish collaborators according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18% with
>>post-graduate degrees,  60% with college degree, 20% with elementary
>>education.  These are data from self-serving, post-war questionaries.
>>
>>But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the requirement was that EACH
>>Jewish policeman has at least matura (two years of college) see page 489
>>of his book.  In practice, the Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
>>journalist who with the day of German occupation immediately were fired
>>from their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because the schools were
>>closed.
>>
>>While Polish teachers joined the underground, unemployed Jewish
>>intelligentia clamored for the police work.  
>>
>>Some of it was really guresome as your remember from our previous
>>description of the Feb. 1942 execution on Rybna Street market place in
>>Lodz.  German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown endlessly in
>>Wisenthal Museum in LA.  Thousands of Jews standing and watching behind
>>three uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered pistols facing
>>Jewish crowd and about to be hanged women passing out and forced into
>>the noose by Jewish Policemen.
>>
>>-------------
>>Jozef Pawlikowski
>>
>>We think that it is unethical that you refuse to look for the mass
>>graves of your relatives and ancestors from Pinsk Dr. Ilicki.  We found
>>ours in Katyn, Miednoje Kharkiv, Palmiry, Treblinka I for Poles and
>>dozens of other places.  Why you shrink from searching for your
>>ancestors, Dr Ilicki?
>>
>>------------
>>
>>
>>Julian Ilicki wrote:
>>> 
>>> W ostatnim czasie poruszalo sie tutaj nieco sprawe granatowej policji.
>>> Czy ktos wie jak odbywala sie rekrutacja do tej policji? Czy byla to po
>>> prostu policja przedwojenna ktora pod innym dowodztwem i w innych mundurach
>>> kontynuowala swoja dzialalnosc z okresu przedwojennego? A jezeli tak, to
>>> czy przedwojenni policjanci byli zmuszeni do pozostawania w szeregach
>>> granatowej policji (i jakimi sankcjami sie to wymuszalo), cz mogli moze
>>> policje opuscic po kampanii wrzesniowej? Czy odbywala sie rekrutacja nowych
>>> policjantow podczas okupacji i w jaki sposob? Co sie z tymi ludzmi stalo po
>>> wojnie? I skad sie bierze nazwa "granatowa policja" - czy od kolorow
>>> mundurow?
>>> 
>>> Julian
>>> 
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Julian Ilicki, Ph.D.                 e-mail: julian.ilicki@soc.uu.se
>>> Uppsala Univ., Dept. of Sociology, Box 821, S-751 08 Uppsala, Sweden
>>> voice, office: +46 - 18 4711513      voice, private: +46 - 18 204747
>>> fax, Dept.:    +46 - 18 4711170      cellular:      +46 - 70 7533731
>>>               http://www.soc.uu.se/staff/julian_i.html
>>>                     http://www.soc.uu.se/~julian/
>>Julian Ilicki wrote:
>>> 
>>> W ostatnim czasie poruszalo sie tutaj nieco sprawe granatowej policji.
>>> Czy ktos wie jak odbywala sie rekrutacja do tej policji? Czy byla to po
>>> prostu policja przedwojenna ktora pod innym dowodztwem i w innych mundurach
>>> kontynuowala swoja dzialalnosc z okresu przedwojennego? A jezeli tak, to
>>> czy przedwojenni policjanci byli zmuszeni do pozostawania w szeregach
>>> granatowej policji (i jakimi sankcjami sie to wymuszalo), czy mogli moze
>>> policje opuscic po kampanii wrzesniowej? Czy odbywala sie rekrutacja nowych
>>> policjantow podczas okupacji i w jaki sposob? Co sie z tymi ludzmi stalo po
>>> wojnie? I skad sie bierze nazwa "granatowa policja" - czy od kolorow
>>> mundurow?
>>> 
>>> Julian
>>> 
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Julian Ilicki, Ph.D.                 e-mail: julian.ilicki@soc.uu.se
>>> Uppsala Univ., Dept. of Sociology, Box 821, S-751 08 Uppsala, Sweden
>>> voice, office: +46 - 18 4711513      voice, private: +46 - 18 204747
>>> fax, Dept.:    +46 - 18 4711170      cellular:      +46 - 70 7533731
>>>               http://www.soc.uu.se/staff/julian_i.html
>>>                     http://www.soc.uu.se/~julian/



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On Fri, 25 Dec 1998 21:44:34 GMT, kahaneken@nazikor.niz.org wrote:
>On Thu, 26 Nov 1998 14:58:53 GMT, KenSicko@zhid.oz.org wrote:
>>On 26 Nov 1998 02:04:42 GMT, marek13@aol.com (Marek13) wrote:

>>>The proper word is "Holocaust."  Can't you spell English?

>>The proper term is HOLOHOAX, in connection with the extortion of
>>billions of dollars from gullible governments, and institutions, such
>>as from Switzerland!!!


>>On Sat, 18 Jul 1998 11:31:10 -0600, "Bassam Kouatli"
>> wrote:

>>>Zionism and the Holocaust
>
>>>Haim Bresheeth, in RETURN, March 1989
>>>The first point to note regarding the appropriation of the history of the
>>>Holocaust by Zionist propaganda is that Zionism without anti-Semitism is
>>>impossible. Zionism agrees with the basic tenet of anti-Semitism, namely
>>>that Jews cannot live with non-Jews.
>>>The history and roots of the Holocaust go back a long way. While the
>>>industry of death and destruction did not operate before 1942, its roots
>>>were firmly placed in the 19th Century. Jewish aspirations for emancipation
>>>emerged out of the national struggles in Europe. When the hopes for
>>>liberation through bourgeois-democratic change were dashed, other
>>>alternatives for improving the lot of the Jews of Europe achieved
>>>prominence.
>>>
>>>The socialist Bund, a mass movement with enormous following, had to contend
>>>with opposition from a new and small, almost insignificant opponent, the
>>>political Zionists. In outline these two offered diametrically opposed
>>>options for Jews in Europe. While the Bund was suggesting joining forces
>>>with the rest of Europe's workers, the Zionists were proposing a new
>>>programme aimed at ridding Europe of its Jews by setting up some form of a
>>>Jewish state.
>>>
>>>Historically, nothing is inevitable, all depends on the balance of forces
>>>involved in the struggle. History can be seen as an option tree: every time
>>>a certain option is chosen, other routes become barred. Because of that
>>>choice, movement backwards to the point before that choice was mad is
>>>impossible. While Zionism as an option was taken by many young Jews, it
>>>remained a minority position until the first days of the 3rd Reich. The
>>>Zionist Federation of Germany (ZVfD), an organisation representing a tiny
>>>minority of German Jews, was selected by the Nazis as the body to represent
>>>the Jews of the Reich. Its was the only flag of an international
>>>organisation allowed to fly in Berlin, and this was the only international
>>>organisation allowed to operate during this period. From a marginal
>>>position, the leaders of the Zionist Federation were propelled to a
>>>prominence and centrality that surprised even them. All of a sudden they
>>>attained political power, power based not on representation, but from being
>>>selected as the choice of the Nazi regime for dealing with the 'Jewish
>>>problem'. Their position in negotiating with the Nazis agreements that
>>>affected the lives of many tens of thousands of the Jews in Germany
>>>transformed them from a utopian, marginal organisation in Germany (and some
>>>other countries in Europe) into a real option to be considered by German
>>>Jews.
>>>
>>>The best example of this was the 'Transfer Agreement' of 1934. Immediately
>>>after the Nazi takeover in 1933, Jews all over the world supported or were
>>>organising a world wide boycott of German goods. This campaign hurt the Nazi
>>>regime and the German authorities searched frantically for a way disabling
>>>the boycott. It was clear that if Jews and Jewish organisations were to pull
>>>out, the campaign would collapse.
>>>
>>>This problem was solved by the ZVfD. A letter sent to the Nazi party as
>>>early as 21.6.33, outlined the degree of agreement that existed between the
>>>two organisations on the questions of race, nation, and the nature of the
>>>'Jewish problem', and it offered to collaborate with the new regime:
>>>
>>>The realisation of Zionism could only be hurt by resentment of Jews abroad
>>>against the German development. Boycott propaganda - such as is currently
>>>being carried on against Germany in many ways - is in essence unZionist,
>>>because Zionism wants not to do battle but to convince and build...
>>>
>>>In their eagerness to gain credence and the backing of the new regime, the
>>>Zionist organisation managed to undermine the boycott. The main public act
>>>was the signature of the 'Transfer Agreement' with the Nazi authorities
>>>during the Zionist Congress of 1934. In essence, the agreement was designed
>>>to get Germany's Jews out of the country and into Mandate Palestine. It
>>>provided a possibility for Jews to take a sizeable part of their property
>>>out of the country, through a transfer of German goods to Palestine. This
>>>right was denied to Jews leaving for any other destination (emphasis - ED).
>>>The Zionist Organisation was the acting agent, through its financial
>>>organisations. This agreement operated on a number of fronts 'helping' Jews
>>>to leave the country, breaking the ring of the boycott, exporting German
>>>goods in large quantities to Palestine, and last but not least, enabling the
>>>regime to be seen as humane and reasonable even towards its avowed enemies,
>>>the Jews. After all, they argued, the Jews do not belong in Europe and now
>>>the Jews come and agree with them.
>>>
>>>After news of the agreement broke, the boycott was doomed. If the Zionist
>>>Organisation found it possible and necessary to deal with the Nazis, and
>>>import their goods, who could argue for a boycott? This was not the first
>>>time that the interests of both movements were presented to the German
>>>public as complementary. Baron Von Mildenstein, the first head of the Jewish
>>>Department of the SS, later followed by Eichmann, was invited to travel to
>>>Palestine. This he did in early 1933, in the company of a Zionist leader,
>>>Kurt Tuchler. Having spent six months in Palestine, he wrote a series of
>>>favourable articles in Der Sturmer describing the 'new Jew' of Zionism, a
>>>Jew Nazis could accept and understand.
>>>
>>>This little-known episode established quite clearly the relationship during
>>>the early days of Nazism, between the new regime and the ZVfD, a
>>>relationship that was echoed later in a number of key instances, even after
>>>the nature of the Final Solution became clear. In many cases this meant a
>>>silencing of reports about the horrors of the exterminations. A book
>>>concentrating on this aspect of the Zionist reaction to the Holocaust is
>>>Post-Ugandan Zionism in the Crucible of the Holocaust, by S.B. Beth-Zvi.
>>>
>>>In the case of the Kastner episode, around which Jim Allen's play PERDITION
>>>is based, even the normal excuse of lack of knowledge of the real nature of
>>>events does not exist. It occurred near the end of the war. The USSR had
>>>advanced almost up to Germany. Italy and the African bases had been lost.
>>>The Nazis were on the run, with a number of key countries, such as Rumania,
>>>leaving the Axis. A second front was a matter of months away, as the western
>>>Allies prepared their forces. In the midst of all this we find Eichmann, the
>>>master bureaucrat of industrial murder, setting up is HQ in occupied
>>>Budapest, after the German takeover of the country in April 1944. His first
>>>act was to have a conference with the Jewish leadership, and to appoint
>>>Zionist Federation members, headed by Kastner, as the agent and clearing
>>>house for all Jews in their relationship with the SS and Nazi authorities.
>>>Why they did this is not difficult to see. As opposed to Poland, where its
>>>three and half million Jews lived in ghettoes and were visible different
>>>from the rest of the Polish population, the Hungarian Jews were in
>>>integrated part of the community. The middle class was mainly Jewish, the
>>>Jews were mainly middle class. They enjoyed freedom of travel, served in the
>>>Hungarian (fascist) army in frontline units, as officers and soldiers, their
>>>names were Hungarian - how was Eichmann to find them if they were to be
>>>exterminated ? The task was not easy, there were a million Jews in Hungary,
>>>most of them resident, the rest being refugees from other countries. Many
>>>had heard about the fate of Jews elsewhere, and were unlikely to believe any
>>>statements by Nazi officials.
>>>
>>>Like elsewhere, the only people who had the information and the ear of the
>>>frightened Jewish population were the Judenrat. In this case the Judenrat
>>>comprised mainly the Zionist Federation members. Without their help the SS,
>>>with 19 officers and less than 90 men, plus a few hundred Hungarian police,
>>>could not have collected and controlled a million Jews, when they did not
>>>even know their whereabouts. Kastner and the others were left under no
>>>illusions. Eichmann told Joel Brand, one of the members of Kastner's
>>>committee, that he intended to send all Hungary's Jews to Auschwitz, before
>>>he even started the expulsions! He told them clearly that all these Jews
>>>will die, 12,000 a day, unless certain conditions were met.
>>>
>>>The Committee faced a simple choice - to tell the Jews of Hungary about
>>>their fate, (with neutral Rumania, where many could escape, being in most
>>>cases a few hours away) or to collaborate with the Nazis by assisting in the
>>>concentration process. What would not have been believed when coming from
>>>the SS, sounded quite plausible when coming from the mouths of the Zionist
>>>leadership. Thus it is, that most of the Hungarian Jews went quietly to
>>>their death, assured by their leadership that they were sent to work camps.
>>>
>>>To be sure, there are thirty pieces of silver in this narrative of
>>>destruction: the trains of 'prominents' which Eichmann promised to Kastner -
>>>a promise he kept to the last detail. For Eichmann it was a bargain:
>>>allowing 1,680 Jews to survive, as the price paid for the silent
>>>collaboration over the death of almost a million Jews.
>>>
>>>There was no way in which the Jews of Hungary could even be located, not to
>>>say murdered, without the full collaboration of Kastner and his few friends.
>>>No doubt the SS would hunt a few Jews here and there, but the scale of the
>>>operation would have been minuscule compared to the half million who died in
>>>Auschwitz.
>>>
>>>It is important to realise that Kastner was not an aberration, like say
>>>Rumkovky in Lodz. Kastner acted as a result of his strongly held Zionist
>>>convictions. His actions were a logical outcome of earlier positions. This
>>>is instanced when he exposed to the Gestapo the existence of a British cell
>>>of saboteurs, Palgi and Senesh, and persuaded them to give themselves up, so
>>>as not to disrupt his operations. At no point during his trial or elsewhere,
>>>did Kastner deny that he knew exactly what was to happen to those Jews.
>>>
>>>To conclude, the role played by Zionists in this period, was connected to
>>>another role they could, and should have played, that of alarming the whole
>>>world to what was happening in Europe. They had the information, but
>>>politically it was contrary to their priorities. The priorities were, and
>>>still are, quite simple: All that furthers the Zionist enterprise in
>>>Palestine is followed, whatever the price. The lives of individuals, Jews
>>>and non-Jews, are secondary. If this process requires dealing with fascists,
>>>Nazis and other assorted dictatorial regimes across the world, so be it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>You'll find more at: http://www.alquds.org/palestine/
>>>
>>>
>>>



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On Fri, 25 Dec 1998 02:16:31 GMT, koyvay@nazikor.org wrote:

>On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:46:32 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>>On Sat, 04 Apr 1998 15:50:56 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>
>>>It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
>>>Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
>>>authorities in both canada and the USA!!!
>
>>>On 28 Mar 1998 19:27:41 GMT, kmcvay@nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay SOB)
>>>wrote:
>
>>>Feel free to forward your complaints also to revenue Canada, either by
>>>phone or E-mail.
>>>
>>>Notice that the gas station employee McVay, his employment exposed in
>>>an interview a week ago in local papers,  refuses to answer the
>>>questions.
>>>
>>>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>>>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.
>>>
>>>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>>>because of the heat from the authorities!!!
>>>
>>>One must wonder whether he is so rejected by the Jews in B.C>, that he
>>>had to go to Edmonton to hold a meeting??
>>>
>>>Or, could it be that in Alberta Canada, there are more thinking
>>>people, who reject the garbage disseminated by OyVay and his gang??
>>>
>>>Perhaps some of the others in North America interested in discussing
>>>the Holohoax will also respond.
>>>
>>>>>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, nationalist@juno.com (Michael )
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote
>>>
>>>>>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>>>>>> will not answer the critical questions.
>>>
>>>>>>Nothing new here.
>>>
>>>>>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>>>>>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>>>>>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>>>>>> it is NOT!!!
>>>
>>>>>>Definitely not a charity.
>>>
>>>Revenue Canada Taxation - Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>>Canada!!!
>>>
>>>They can be reached directly, for filing complaints, at:
>>>	Telephone to: 1-800-267-2384
>>>
>>>Also, you can E-mail complaints about Nizkor, to them, at:
>>>	http://www.rc.gc.ca/charities
>>>
>>>An alternative telephone number for fraud complaints is 
>>>Special Investigations Revenue Canada at:
>>>	telephone # 204-983-1829
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won't Answer!!!!
>>>>>> 
>>>
>>>>>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>>>>>> answer??
>>>
>>>>>> Is it really an international tax fraud?
>>>
>>>>>> What have the I.R.S. to say??
>>>
>>>>>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>>>>>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.
>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>>>>>> who can be reached at:
>>>         http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html
>>>
>>>>>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>>>>>         webmaster@rc.gc.ca, or
>>>>>>	 http://www.rc.gc.ca
>>>
>>>	 In Message, put first line of message as: 
>>>	ATTENTION SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
>>>             or telephone to: 204-983-1829
>>>
>>>	They are waiting for your complaints
>>>
>>>>> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won't Answer is:
>>>
>>>>> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997  00:14:06 GMT
>>>>> >From: Doctor detroit (Adjust@chiropractor.com)
>>>>> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>>>>> >Subject: to repeat the questions
>>>
>>>>> >       Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.
>>>
>>>>> >       1)      What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?
>>>
>>>>>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy's case it is the Order of British Columbia.
>>>
>>>>> >       2)      What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
>>>>> >               letters?
>>>
>>>>>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>>>>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>>>>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>>>>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.
>>>
>>>>> >       3)      What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>>>
>>>>> >       4)      What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>>>
>>>>>>Probably written on McGoy's forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>>>>>Brith's butt.
>>>
>>>>>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>>>>>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay
>>>
>>>>>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.
>>>
>>>>> >       5)      What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>>>
>>>>> >       6)      Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?
>>>
>>>>>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>>>>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.
>>>
>>>>> >       7)      What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
>>>>> >               solicit tax free contributions?
>>>
>>>>>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone "contributes" more than $10 that Bnai
>>>>>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>>>>>Canadian dollars. 
>>>
>>>>> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
>>>>> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.
>>>
>>>>> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
>>>>> >OyVey???
>>>
>>>>>>It's a reasonable assumption.
>>>
>>>>> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.
>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism dleonik@accesscomm.net
>>>>>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:
>>>
>>>>> >Check this out!
>>>
>>>>>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>>>>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken's "Big Lie"
>>>>>>letter just ask.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >Nizkor Funding
>>>>> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>>>>> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>>>>> >of B'nai Brith Canada ...with the cheque's memo including "Nizkor
>>>>> >Project". ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>>>>> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
>>>>> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>>>>> >Excite Search---Search: "nizkor"
>>>
>>>>> >"From B'nai Brith's 1996 'Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents':
>>>
>>>>>>  The League is working closely
>>>>> >with Ken McVay's Nizkor Project (http://www.nizkor.org) through the
>>>>> >"Holocaust and Hope" program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>>>> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>>>> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic.  The creation of a
>>>>> >B'nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>>>> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>>>> >incidents directly to the National Office."
>>>
>>>>>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
>>>>> >promote Jewish interests. 
>>>
>>>>>>That is putting it "lightly".
>>>
>>>>>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky's book "By Way of
>>>>>>Deception". Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>>>>>the Nizkooks are up to.
>>>
>>>>>>nationalist@juno.com
>>>>>>"http://www.natall.com"
>>>>>>"http://www.natvan.com"
>>>
>>>>>>National Vanguard Books
>>>>>>P.O. Box 330
>>>>>>Hillsboro, WV   24946
>>>
>>>>>>Get the text of American Dissident Voices broadcasts by e-mail! 
>>>
>>>>>>Subscribe to our mailing list by sending an e-mail message to:
>>>>>>ADVlist@ListServe.com which contains the 
>>>>>>word _subscribe_ as the subject of your message.
>>>>>> You may also get them from our FTP site at: ftp://natvan.com 
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>Revenue Canada Taxation - Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>>>>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>>>>>Canada!!!
>>>
>>>>>show us where Nizkor has ever claimed to have one.
>>>
>>>>All you need do, is read above, or get your orderly to read for you.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Just print this form, and send a money order for $25, and see whether
>>>>>or not you get a valid tax receipt in return.... and see if it comes
>>>>>from anthing called "Nizkor," or claims that it would... won't that be
>>>>>fun, Bill? If you don't get that valid reciept, well geewhilikers,
>>>>>you've got me, eh?
>>>
>>>>>Please print this form and send to: 
>>>>>The Nizkor Project 
>>>>>c/o 
>>>>>The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada 
>>>>>xxxxxx Street 
>>>>>Toronto, Ontario  
>>>
>>>>>Name:________________________________________ 
>>>>>Street Address:________________________________________________ 
>>>>>City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______ 
>>>>>E-Mail Address:_________________________________ 
>>>>>Amount Enclosed: $___________ 
>>>
>>>>>Please make your donations payable to "The League for Human Rights of
>>>>>B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the
>>>>>cheque's memo section. 
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
>>>>>[#0235903-43-13] 
>>>
>>>



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On Wed, 19 Aug 1998 18:01:53 -0400, Basil Keilani
 wrote:


>	Often, when one deals with the right Israelis and Jews, rather
>than admit injustices, they engage in insults and try to intimidate the
>other side.  They believe they can intimidate the other side, by claiming
>they are anti-Semitic.  However, it does not work, the Berlin wall of
>Israeli bigotry will fall along with their allies.  We say no to Zionist
>racism vis-a-vis Gentiles and Secular Jews.  Actually, Zionism has been
>one of the greatest enemies towards the name of Jews and Judaism.
>So it is anti-Semitic, for a kind-hearted, honest Jew who believes
>in the One God.--------Basil
>
>Article by Dr Alfred Lilienthal
>
>	"Why did the Jews, through, their own leaders, cooperate with the
>Nazis in their own destruction?"; Why did the Jews abandon their
>apparently successful economic boycott of pre-WWII Germany?"; and, "Why
>did millions of Jews go to their deaths like lambs to the slaughter?"
>	These were just some of the major queries raised by Jewish
>intellectuals and historians like Ben Hecht and, especially, Hannah
>Arendt.  Arendt called the Zionist complicity in the tragedy one of the
>"darkest pages" in the history of their race.  Many found the questions
>raised by Arendt and Hecht too painful to face directly.
>	Pius XII (POPE), now dead, became a convenient target for revenge
>and distraction from the issue of Zionist complicity raised by the
>dissidents.  Both Zionists and non-Jews began accusing Pius XII of
>responsibility for the death of the Jews by his called "silence" regarding
>mass exterminations.
>	The Christian-bashers regularly portrayed Pius XII, in plays,
>articles, books, movies and television documentaries, as a tool of the
>capitalists, an uncaring bureaucrat, and a heartless cleric.  Nothing
>could have been further from the truth, but these slanders continue until
>the present day.
>
>Dr. Alfred Lilienthal, "The Truth at last about Pope Pius and the 
>Holocaust", Washington Report, May/June 1998, p.30
>
>
>



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In Canada a JEW Rabbi now wants to perform ILLEGAL marriages of
faggots and lezzies. Story follows:
On Sat, 26 Dec 1998 19:04:05 GMT, kenmaggot@nazikor.niz.org wrote:

>In a move sure to anger orthodox Jews, as well as normal humans, newspapers
>across Canada report that a Winnipeg synagogue will perform marriages
>of same sex persons.

>This, even though there is no law in Canada permitting this!!!

>Rabbi Michael  Levenson of Temple Shalom admits that his actions are
>illegal. 


If his actions are illegal, why don't the authorities send him to
jail??


>He is quoted as saying that his ceremonies will be recognised
>from a religious point of view, not a political one. Levenson alleges
>that members of his temple supposedly supported his action.  However,
>even normal Jews are criticising this action. It seems that what this
>Jew is doing, is NOT acceptable, according to the Torah.


No wonder people think of the jews as mainly sodomites.




On Sun, 27 Dec 1998 05:45:47 +0000, Claymore
 wrote:

>All LEZZAS are Hate filled Bigoted Scum, just like faggots and should be
>GASSED !.

>In article <75ultu$2r0@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>, Israel Schiff
> writes
>>On Mon, 23 Dec 1996, Elazar wrote: "For my Jewish brethren searching for a
>>Biblical basis for sanctioning homosexuality, I provide you with words from
>>Rabbis Marc Angel, Hillel Goldberg and Pinchas Stopler in their joint
>>article published in the Winter, 1992-93 edition of Jewish Action Magazine;"
>>Well, here's another viewpoint: Bible Review, December 1993, p. 11 DOES THE
>>BIBLE PROHIBIT HOMOSEXUALITY? by Rabbi Jacob Milgrom: "The Biblical
>>prohibition is addressed only to Israel. It is incorrect to apply it on a
>>universal scale.
>>This past Yom Kippur, September 25, 1993, my synagogue invited me to explain
>>the afternoon scriptural reading, the list of forbidden sexual liaisons in
>>Leviticus 18. I chose to focus on what is today one of the most frequently
>>quoted passages in the entire Bible, "Do not lie with a male as one lies
>>with a woman, it is an abomination" (Leviticus 18:22).
>>
>>What I said may be both good news and bad news to my Christian friends,
>>depending on their position on gay and lesbian rights. This Biblical
>>prohibition is addressed only to the Jews. Non-Jews are affected only if
>>they reside in the Holy Land, but not elsewhere (see the closing exhortation
>>in Leviticus 18, verses 24-30). Thus, it is incorrect to apply this
>>prohibition on a universal scale.
>>
>>But I spoke to my fellow Jews, who are required to observe this prohibition.
>>What is the rationale for this prohibition? In a previous column, I noted
>>that the Bible's impurity rules are part of a symbol system representing the
>>forces of life and death. Israel is required to avoid these impurities and
>>adhere to the laws commanded by God, who promotes the forces of life. Thus
>>in the same chapter we read, "You shall heed my statutes and my rules, by
>>doing them one shall live" (Leviticus 18:5). A man who discharges semen,
>>whether intentionally or otherwise, is declared impure and must purify
>>himself by bathing (a sort of re-baptism) before he is permitted to enter
>>the Temple or touch sacred (sacrificial) food (Leviticus 15:16-18). Why?
>>Because semen stands for life, and the loss of semen symbolizes the loss of
>>life.
>>
>>Note also that in the entire list of forbidden sexual unions, THERE IS NO
>>PROHIBITION AGAINST LESBIANISM. Can it be that lesbianism did not exist in
>>ancient times or that Scripture was unaware of its existence? Lesbians
>>existed and flourished, as attested in an old (pre-Israelite)
>>
>>Babylonian text and in the work of the lesbian poet Sappho (born c. 612
>>B.C.E., during the time of the First Temple), who came from the island of
>>Lesbos (hence lesbianism). But there is a fundamental difference between the
>>homosexual acts of men and women. IN LESBIANISM THERE IS NO SPILLING OF
>>SEED. Thus life is not symbolically lost, and therefore lesbianism is not
>>prohibited in the Bible.
>>
>>My argument ostensibly can be countered by a more comprehensive biblical
>>injunction. The very first commandment, given to Adam and repeated to Noah,
>>is "Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth" (Genesis 1:28 and Genesis
>>9:1,7). The descendants of Noah--the entire human race--are duty-bound to
>>fulfill this commandment. But the truth is that we have not only filled the
>>earth, we have over-filled it. This does not mean, however, that the
>>commandment should be thought of as no longer in force--especially among
>>Jews, who have lost a third of their members in our lifetime. I recall an
>>incident during a premarital interview from the early years of my rabbinate.
>>The starry-eyed bride declared her noble intention to have twelve children
>>to compensate for the tragic loss of six million killed in the Holocaust. I
>>gasped, "Must you do it all by yourself?"
>>
>>I have since come to regret my flippant reply. This couple regarded their
>>forthcoming marriage as a sacrament not just between themselves, but with
>>the >Jewish people. The problem has worsened for American Jews. Because
>>intermarriage is rife and the Jewish birth rate is low, American Jewry, once
>>at zero population growth, has dipped into the minus column. Were it not for
>>a steady stream of converts, the extinction of American Jewry would be even
>>more imminent. For us the divine command, "Be fruitful and multiply" is
>>truly in force.
>>
>>To Jewish homosexuals I offer an unoriginal solution. As compensation for
>>your loss of seed, adopt children. Although adoption was practiced in the
>>ancient world (as attested in Babylonian law), there is no Biblical
>>procedure or institution of adoption. As a result the institution of
>>adoption is absent from rabbinic jurisprudence. Yet there are isolated cases
>>of a kind of pseudo-adoption in the Bible. For example, Abraham, long
>>childless, complains to God that Eliezer of Damascus, his steward, will
>>inherit him (Genesis 15:2). And barren Rachel beseeches her husband Jacob,
>>"Here is my maid Bilhah--go into her that she may bear on my knees and that
>>through her I too may have children" (Genesis 30:3). Adoption is certainly a
>>possibility today.
>>
>>Lesbian couples have an additional advantage. Not only do they not violate
>>biblical law, but through artificial insemination each can become the
>>natural mother of her children.
>>
>>Thus from the Bible we can infer the following: Lesbians, presumably half of
>>the world's homosexual population, are not mentioned. More than ninety-nine
>>percent of the gays, namely non-Jews, are not addressed. This leaves the
>>small number of male Jewish gays subject to this >prohibition. If they are
>>biologically or psychologically incapable of procreation, adoption provides
>>a solution. I hope the Eternal, in love and compassion, will then reckon
>>their spilled seed as producing fruit. Jacob Milgrom." (Bible Review, a
>>publication of the Biblical Archeology Society 3000 Connecticut Avenue NW,
>>Suite 300, Washington DC 20008, 202 387 8888




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On Wed, 07 Oct 1998 20:48:00 GMT, sbjarnason@heimat.zhid.org wrote:

>On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 18:31:48 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI
> wrote:
>
>>============
>>Just a moment ago, on soc.culture.polish, Dr. J. Ilicki, Associate
>>Professor of Sociology and Judaic Studies on Upsalla University raised
>>the question of Polish Polish in the service of Germans during
>>occupation of Poland.  The only reason for this question at this time
>>seems to be his need to stir interethnic hatered.  Provacatively, Dr.
>>Ilicki asks: 1) who were the members of the police, volunteers or
>>draftees?, 2) what was their social status? 3) what happened to them
>>after the war?  Just to play completely innocent (and dumb) he also asks
>>why they were called Granatowa (dark-navy-blue) Police.
>>
>>Only naive will believe that Prof. Ilicki does not know the answeres. 
>>Also only naive will believe that he is not interested in Pinsk the
>>hometown of his parents and allegedly the site of the burial of his
>>grandparents and over 30,000 pinksers (Jews from Pinsk).  He admitted
>>that his mother listed them as killed there with Yad Vashem.  However,
>>young (about 40 years old) Julian pretends disintrest, because he is
>>afraid that exhumations might start at the alleged burial site and will
>>find no skeletons as same happened last year at nearby Mariompole,
>>presently in Lithuania.
>>
>>But coming back to Dr Illicki question: Polish Police during German
>>occupation was  dramatically reduced in numbers and pre-war policemen
>>were forced to serve as an auxillary force to German Ordnung Polizei. 
>>They were ususally not armed, and when armed never given more than five
>>bullets for their long rifles.  Moreover, after each use of firearm they
>>(as well as the Ukraininan Police) had to write a report for what target
>>each bulett was used and with what effectivness, hardly an invitation to
>>the genocide.
>>
>>On the other hand there was a police force in the Third Reich, in which
>>service was completely voluntary.  It was called Ordnungdienst.  Their
>>emblem was a light alloy Star of David.  The social background of these
>>Jewish collaborators according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18% with
>>post-graduate degrees,  60% with college degree, 20% with elementary
>>education.  These are data from self-serving, post-war questionaries.
>>
>>But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the requirement was that EACH
>>Jewish policeman has at least matura (two years of college) see page 489
>>of his book.  In practice, the Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
>>journalist who with the day of German occupation immediately were fired
>>from their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because the schools were
>>closed.
>>
>>While Polish teachers joined the underground, unemployed Jewish
>>intelligentia clamored for the police work.  
>>
>>Some of it was really guresome as your remember from our previous
>>description of the Feb. 1942 execution on Rybna Street market place in
>>Lodz.  German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown endlessly in
>>Wisenthal Museum in LA.  Thousands of Jews standing and watching behind
>>three uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered pistols facing
>>Jewish crowd and about to be hanged women passing out and forced into
>>the noose by Jewish Policemen.
>>
>>-------------
>>Jozef Pawlikowski
>>
>>We think that it is unethical that you refuse to look for the mass
>>graves of your relatives and ancestors from Pinsk Dr. Ilicki.  We found
>>ours in Katyn, Miednoje Kharkiv, Palmiry, Treblinka I for Poles and
>>dozens of other places.  Why you shrink from searching for your
>>ancestors, Dr Ilicki?
>>
>>------------
>>
>>
>>Julian Ilicki wrote:
>>> 
>>> W ostatnim czasie poruszalo sie tutaj nieco sprawe granatowej policji.
>>> Czy ktos wie jak odbywala sie rekrutacja do tej policji? Czy byla to po
>>> prostu policja przedwojenna ktora pod innym dowodztwem i w innych mundurach
>>> kontynuowala swoja dzialalnosc z okresu przedwojennego? A jezeli tak, to
>>> czy przedwojenni policjanci byli zmuszeni do pozostawania w szeregach
>>> granatowej policji (i jakimi sankcjami sie to wymuszalo), cz mogli moze
>>> policje opuscic po kampanii wrzesniowej? Czy odbywala sie rekrutacja nowych
>>> policjantow podczas okupacji i w jaki sposob? Co sie z tymi ludzmi stalo po
>>> wojnie? I skad sie bierze nazwa "granatowa policja" - czy od kolorow
>>> mundurow?
>>> 
>>> Julian
>>> 
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Julian Ilicki, Ph.D.                 e-mail: julian.ilicki@soc.uu.se
>>> Uppsala Univ., Dept. of Sociology, Box 821, S-751 08 Uppsala, Sweden
>>> voice, office: +46 - 18 4711513      voice, private: +46 - 18 204747
>>> fax, Dept.:    +46 - 18 4711170      cellular:      +46 - 70 7533731
>>>               http://www.soc.uu.se/staff/julian_i.html
>>>                     http://www.soc.uu.se/~julian/
>>Julian Ilicki wrote:
>>> 
>>> W ostatnim czasie poruszalo sie tutaj nieco sprawe granatowej policji.
>>> Czy ktos wie jak odbywala sie rekrutacja do tej policji? Czy byla to po
>>> prostu policja przedwojenna ktora pod innym dowodztwem i w innych mundurach
>>> kontynuowala swoja dzialalnosc z okresu przedwojennego? A jezeli tak, to
>>> czy przedwojenni policjanci byli zmuszeni do pozostawania w szeregach
>>> granatowej policji (i jakimi sankcjami sie to wymuszalo), czy mogli moze
>>> policje opuscic po kampanii wrzesniowej? Czy odbywala sie rekrutacja nowych
>>> policjantow podczas okupacji i w jaki sposob? Co sie z tymi ludzmi stalo po
>>> wojnie? I skad sie bierze nazwa "granatowa policja" - czy od kolorow
>>> mundurow?
>>> 
>>> Julian
>>> 
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Julian Ilicki, Ph.D.                 e-mail: julian.ilicki@soc.uu.se
>>> Uppsala Univ., Dept. of Sociology, Box 821, S-751 08 Uppsala, Sweden
>>> voice, office: +46 - 18 4711513      voice, private: +46 - 18 204747
>>> fax, Dept.:    +46 - 18 4711170      cellular:      +46 - 70 7533731
>>>               http://www.soc.uu.se/staff/julian_i.html
>>>                     http://www.soc.uu.se/~julian/



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On Fri, 25 Dec 1998 21:44:34 GMT, kahaneken@nazikor.niz.org wrote:
>On Thu, 26 Nov 1998 14:58:53 GMT, KenSicko@zhid.oz.org wrote:
>>On 26 Nov 1998 02:04:42 GMT, marek13@aol.com (Marek13) wrote:

>>>The proper word is "Holocaust."  Can't you spell English?

>>The proper term is HOLOHOAX, in connection with the extortion of
>>billions of dollars from gullible governments, and institutions, such
>>as from Switzerland!!!


>>On Sat, 18 Jul 1998 11:31:10 -0600, "Bassam Kouatli"
>> wrote:

>>>Zionism and the Holocaust
>
>>>Haim Bresheeth, in RETURN, March 1989
>>>The first point to note regarding the appropriation of the history of the
>>>Holocaust by Zionist propaganda is that Zionism without anti-Semitism is
>>>impossible. Zionism agrees with the basic tenet of anti-Semitism, namely
>>>that Jews cannot live with non-Jews.
>>>The history and roots of the Holocaust go back a long way. While the
>>>industry of death and destruction did not operate before 1942, its roots
>>>were firmly placed in the 19th Century. Jewish aspirations for emancipation
>>>emerged out of the national struggles in Europe. When the hopes for
>>>liberation through bourgeois-democratic change were dashed, other
>>>alternatives for improving the lot of the Jews of Europe achieved
>>>prominence.
>>>
>>>The socialist Bund, a mass movement with enormous following, had to contend
>>>with opposition from a new and small, almost insignificant opponent, the
>>>political Zionists. In outline these two offered diametrically opposed
>>>options for Jews in Europe. While the Bund was suggesting joining forces
>>>with the rest of Europe's workers, the Zionists were proposing a new
>>>programme aimed at ridding Europe of its Jews by setting up some form of a
>>>Jewish state.
>>>
>>>Historically, nothing is inevitable, all depends on the balance of forces
>>>involved in the struggle. History can be seen as an option tree: every time
>>>a certain option is chosen, other routes become barred. Because of that
>>>choice, movement backwards to the point before that choice was mad is
>>>impossible. While Zionism as an option was taken by many young Jews, it
>>>remained a minority position until the first days of the 3rd Reich. The
>>>Zionist Federation of Germany (ZVfD), an organisation representing a tiny
>>>minority of German Jews, was selected by the Nazis as the body to represent
>>>the Jews of the Reich. Its was the only flag of an international
>>>organisation allowed to fly in Berlin, and this was the only international
>>>organisation allowed to operate during this period. From a marginal
>>>position, the leaders of the Zionist Federation were propelled to a
>>>prominence and centrality that surprised even them. All of a sudden they
>>>attained political power, power based not on representation, but from being
>>>selected as the choice of the Nazi regime for dealing with the 'Jewish
>>>problem'. Their position in negotiating with the Nazis agreements that
>>>affected the lives of many tens of thousands of the Jews in Germany
>>>transformed them from a utopian, marginal organisation in Germany (and some
>>>other countries in Europe) into a real option to be considered by German
>>>Jews.
>>>
>>>The best example of this was the 'Transfer Agreement' of 1934. Immediately
>>>after the Nazi takeover in 1933, Jews all over the world supported or were
>>>organising a world wide boycott of German goods. This campaign hurt the Nazi
>>>regime and the German authorities searched frantically for a way disabling
>>>the boycott. It was clear that if Jews and Jewish organisations were to pull
>>>out, the campaign would collapse.
>>>
>>>This problem was solved by the ZVfD. A letter sent to the Nazi party as
>>>early as 21.6.33, outlined the degree of agreement that existed between the
>>>two organisations on the questions of race, nation, and the nature of the
>>>'Jewish problem', and it offered to collaborate with the new regime:
>>>
>>>The realisation of Zionism could only be hurt by resentment of Jews abroad
>>>against the German development. Boycott propaganda - such as is currently
>>>being carried on against Germany in many ways - is in essence unZionist,
>>>because Zionism wants not to do battle but to convince and build...
>>>
>>>In their eagerness to gain credence and the backing of the new regime, the
>>>Zionist organisation managed to undermine the boycott. The main public act
>>>was the signature of the 'Transfer Agreement' with the Nazi authorities
>>>during the Zionist Congress of 1934. In essence, the agreement was designed
>>>to get Germany's Jews out of the country and into Mandate Palestine. It
>>>provided a possibility for Jews to take a sizeable part of their property
>>>out of the country, through a transfer of German goods to Palestine. This
>>>right was denied to Jews leaving for any other destination (emphasis - ED).
>>>The Zionist Organisation was the acting agent, through its financial
>>>organisations. This agreement operated on a number of fronts 'helping' Jews
>>>to leave the country, breaking the ring of the boycott, exporting German
>>>goods in large quantities to Palestine, and last but not least, enabling the
>>>regime to be seen as humane and reasonable even towards its avowed enemies,
>>>the Jews. After all, they argued, the Jews do not belong in Europe and now
>>>the Jews come and agree with them.
>>>
>>>After news of the agreement broke, the boycott was doomed. If the Zionist
>>>Organisation found it possible and necessary to deal with the Nazis, and
>>>import their goods, who could argue for a boycott? This was not the first
>>>time that the interests of both movements were presented to the German
>>>public as complementary. Baron Von Mildenstein, the first head of the Jewish
>>>Department of the SS, later followed by Eichmann, was invited to travel to
>>>Palestine. This he did in early 1933, in the company of a Zionist leader,
>>>Kurt Tuchler. Having spent six months in Palestine, he wrote a series of
>>>favourable articles in Der Sturmer describing the 'new Jew' of Zionism, a
>>>Jew Nazis could accept and understand.
>>>
>>>This little-known episode established quite clearly the relationship during
>>>the early days of Nazism, between the new regime and the ZVfD, a
>>>relationship that was echoed later in a number of key instances, even after
>>>the nature of the Final Solution became clear. In many cases this meant a
>>>silencing of reports about the horrors of the exterminations. A book
>>>concentrating on this aspect of the Zionist reaction to the Holocaust is
>>>Post-Ugandan Zionism in the Crucible of the Holocaust, by S.B. Beth-Zvi.
>>>
>>>In the case of the Kastner episode, around which Jim Allen's play PERDITION
>>>is based, even the normal excuse of lack of knowledge of the real nature of
>>>events does not exist. It occurred near the end of the war. The USSR had
>>>advanced almost up to Germany. Italy and the African bases had been lost.
>>>The Nazis were on the run, with a number of key countries, such as Rumania,
>>>leaving the Axis. A second front was a matter of months away, as the western
>>>Allies prepared their forces. In the midst of all this we find Eichmann, the
>>>master bureaucrat of industrial murder, setting up is HQ in occupied
>>>Budapest, after the German takeover of the country in April 1944. His first
>>>act was to have a conference with the Jewish leadership, and to appoint
>>>Zionist Federation members, headed by Kastner, as the agent and clearing
>>>house for all Jews in their relationship with the SS and Nazi authorities.
>>>Why they did this is not difficult to see. As opposed to Poland, where its
>>>three and half million Jews lived in ghettoes and were visible different
>>>from the rest of the Polish population, the Hungarian Jews were in
>>>integrated part of the community. The middle class was mainly Jewish, the
>>>Jews were mainly middle class. They enjoyed freedom of travel, served in the
>>>Hungarian (fascist) army in frontline units, as officers and soldiers, their
>>>names were Hungarian - how was Eichmann to find them if they were to be
>>>exterminated ? The task was not easy, there were a million Jews in Hungary,
>>>most of them resident, the rest being refugees from other countries. Many
>>>had heard about the fate of Jews elsewhere, and were unlikely to believe any
>>>statements by Nazi officials.
>>>
>>>Like elsewhere, the only people who had the information and the ear of the
>>>frightened Jewish population were the Judenrat. In this case the Judenrat
>>>comprised mainly the Zionist Federation members. Without their help the SS,
>>>with 19 officers and less than 90 men, plus a few hundred Hungarian police,
>>>could not have collected and controlled a million Jews, when they did not
>>>even know their whereabouts. Kastner and the others were left under no
>>>illusions. Eichmann told Joel Brand, one of the members of Kastner's
>>>committee, that he intended to send all Hungary's Jews to Auschwitz, before
>>>he even started the expulsions! He told them clearly that all these Jews
>>>will die, 12,000 a day, unless certain conditions were met.
>>>
>>>The Committee faced a simple choice - to tell the Jews of Hungary about
>>>their fate, (with neutral Rumania, where many could escape, being in most
>>>cases a few hours away) or to collaborate with the Nazis by assisting in the
>>>concentration process. What would not have been believed when coming from
>>>the SS, sounded quite plausible when coming from the mouths of the Zionist
>>>leadership. Thus it is, that most of the Hungarian Jews went quietly to
>>>their death, assured by their leadership that they were sent to work camps.
>>>
>>>To be sure, there are thirty pieces of silver in this narrative of
>>>destruction: the trains of 'prominents' which Eichmann promised to Kastner -
>>>a promise he kept to the last detail. For Eichmann it was a bargain:
>>>allowing 1,680 Jews to survive, as the price paid for the silent
>>>collaboration over the death of almost a million Jews.
>>>
>>>There was no way in which the Jews of Hungary could even be located, not to
>>>say murdered, without the full collaboration of Kastner and his few friends.
>>>No doubt the SS would hunt a few Jews here and there, but the scale of the
>>>operation would have been minuscule compared to the half million who died in
>>>Auschwitz.
>>>
>>>It is important to realise that Kastner was not an aberration, like say
>>>Rumkovky in Lodz. Kastner acted as a result of his strongly held Zionist
>>>convictions. His actions were a logical outcome of earlier positions. This
>>>is instanced when he exposed to the Gestapo the existence of a British cell
>>>of saboteurs, Palgi and Senesh, and persuaded them to give themselves up, so
>>>as not to disrupt his operations. At no point during his trial or elsewhere,
>>>did Kastner deny that he knew exactly what was to happen to those Jews.
>>>
>>>To conclude, the role played by Zionists in this period, was connected to
>>>another role they could, and should have played, that of alarming the whole
>>>world to what was happening in Europe. They had the information, but
>>>politically it was contrary to their priorities. The priorities were, and
>>>still are, quite simple: All that furthers the Zionist enterprise in
>>>Palestine is followed, whatever the price. The lives of individuals, Jews
>>>and non-Jews, are secondary. If this process requires dealing with fascists,
>>>Nazis and other assorted dictatorial regimes across the world, so be it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>You'll find more at: http://www.alquds.org/palestine/
>>>
>>>
>>>



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On Fri, 25 Dec 1998 02:16:31 GMT, koyvay@nazikor.org wrote:

>On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:46:32 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>>On Sat, 04 Apr 1998 15:50:56 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>
>>>It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
>>>Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
>>>authorities in both canada and the USA!!!
>
>>>On 28 Mar 1998 19:27:41 GMT, kmcvay@nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay SOB)
>>>wrote:
>
>>>Feel free to forward your complaints also to revenue Canada, either by
>>>phone or E-mail.
>>>
>>>Notice that the gas station employee McVay, his employment exposed in
>>>an interview a week ago in local papers,  refuses to answer the
>>>questions.
>>>
>>>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>>>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.
>>>
>>>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>>>because of the heat from the authorities!!!
>>>
>>>One must wonder whether he is so rejected by the Jews in B.C>, that he
>>>had to go to Edmonton to hold a meeting??
>>>
>>>Or, could it be that in Alberta Canada, there are more thinking
>>>people, who reject the garbage disseminated by OyVay and his gang??
>>>
>>>Perhaps some of the others in North America interested in discussing
>>>the Holohoax will also respond.
>>>
>>>>>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, nationalist@juno.com (Michael )
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote
>>>
>>>>>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>>>>>> will not answer the critical questions.
>>>
>>>>>>Nothing new here.
>>>
>>>>>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>>>>>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>>>>>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>>>>>> it is NOT!!!
>>>
>>>>>>Definitely not a charity.
>>>
>>>Revenue Canada Taxation - Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>>Canada!!!
>>>
>>>They can be reached directly, for filing complaints, at:
>>>	Telephone to: 1-800-267-2384
>>>
>>>Also, you can E-mail complaints about Nizkor, to them, at:
>>>	http://www.rc.gc.ca/charities
>>>
>>>An alternative telephone number for fraud complaints is 
>>>Special Investigations Revenue Canada at:
>>>	telephone # 204-983-1829
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won't Answer!!!!
>>>>>> 
>>>
>>>>>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>>>>>> answer??
>>>
>>>>>> Is it really an international tax fraud?
>>>
>>>>>> What have the I.R.S. to say??
>>>
>>>>>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>>>>>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.
>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>>>>>> who can be reached at:
>>>         http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html
>>>
>>>>>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>>>>>         webmaster@rc.gc.ca, or
>>>>>>	 http://www.rc.gc.ca
>>>
>>>	 In Message, put first line of message as: 
>>>	ATTENTION SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
>>>             or telephone to: 204-983-1829
>>>
>>>	They are waiting for your complaints
>>>
>>>>> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won't Answer is:
>>>
>>>>> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997  00:14:06 GMT
>>>>> >From: Doctor detroit (Adjust@chiropractor.com)
>>>>> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>>>>> >Subject: to repeat the questions
>>>
>>>>> >       Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.
>>>
>>>>> >       1)      What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?
>>>
>>>>>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy's case it is the Order of British Columbia.
>>>
>>>>> >       2)      What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
>>>>> >               letters?
>>>
>>>>>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>>>>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>>>>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>>>>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.
>>>
>>>>> >       3)      What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>>>
>>>>> >       4)      What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>>>
>>>>>>Probably written on McGoy's forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>>>>>Brith's butt.
>>>
>>>>>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>>>>>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay
>>>
>>>>>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.
>>>
>>>>> >       5)      What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>>>
>>>>> >       6)      Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?
>>>
>>>>>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>>>>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.
>>>
>>>>> >       7)      What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
>>>>> >               solicit tax free contributions?
>>>
>>>>>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone "contributes" more than $10 that Bnai
>>>>>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>>>>>Canadian dollars. 
>>>
>>>>> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
>>>>> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.
>>>
>>>>> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
>>>>> >OyVey???
>>>
>>>>>>It's a reasonable assumption.
>>>
>>>>> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.
>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism dleonik@accesscomm.net
>>>>>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:
>>>
>>>>> >Check this out!
>>>
>>>>>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>>>>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken's "Big Lie"
>>>>>>letter just ask.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >Nizkor Funding
>>>>> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>>>>> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>>>>> >of B'nai Brith Canada ...with the cheque's memo including "Nizkor
>>>>> >Project". ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>>>>> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
>>>>> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>>>>> >Excite Search---Search: "nizkor"
>>>
>>>>> >"From B'nai Brith's 1996 'Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents':
>>>
>>>>>>  The League is working closely
>>>>> >with Ken McVay's Nizkor Project (http://www.nizkor.org) through the
>>>>> >"Holocaust and Hope" program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>>>> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>>>> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic.  The creation of a
>>>>> >B'nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>>>> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>>>> >incidents directly to the National Office."
>>>
>>>>>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
>>>>> >promote Jewish interests. 
>>>
>>>>>>That is putting it "lightly".
>>>
>>>>>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky's book "By Way of
>>>>>>Deception". Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>>>>>the Nizkooks are up to.
>>>
>>>>>>nationalist@juno.com
>>>>>>"http://www.natall.com"
>>>>>>"http://www.natvan.com"
>>>
>>>>>>National Vanguard Books
>>>>>>P.O. Box 330
>>>>>>Hillsboro, WV   24946
>>>
>>>>>>Get the text of American Dissident Voices broadcasts by e-mail! 
>>>
>>>>>>Subscribe to our mailing list by sending an e-mail message to:
>>>>>>ADVlist@ListServe.com which contains the 
>>>>>>word _subscribe_ as the subject of your message.
>>>>>> You may also get them from our FTP site at: ftp://natvan.com 
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>Revenue Canada Taxation - Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>>>>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>>>>>Canada!!!
>>>
>>>>>show us where Nizkor has ever claimed to have one.
>>>
>>>>All you need do, is read above, or get your orderly to read for you.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Just print this form, and send a money order for $25, and see whether
>>>>>or not you get a valid tax receipt in return.... and see if it comes
>>>>>from anthing called "Nizkor," or claims that it would... won't that be
>>>>>fun, Bill? If you don't get that valid reciept, well geewhilikers,
>>>>>you've got me, eh?
>>>
>>>>>Please print this form and send to: 
>>>>>The Nizkor Project 
>>>>>c/o 
>>>>>The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada 
>>>>>xxxxxx Street 
>>>>>Toronto, Ontario  
>>>
>>>>>Name:________________________________________ 
>>>>>Street Address:________________________________________________ 
>>>>>City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______ 
>>>>>E-Mail Address:_________________________________ 
>>>>>Amount Enclosed: $___________ 
>>>
>>>>>Please make your donations payable to "The League for Human Rights of
>>>>>B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the
>>>>>cheque's memo section. 
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
>>>>>[#0235903-43-13] 
>>>
>>>



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>On Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:02:29 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>wrote:
>>On Mon, 22 Sep 1997 17:28:24 GMT, odessa88@direct.ca wrote:

>>>If there were so many documented JEWS in the German military, one MUST
>>>question how many may have died in WWII!!!
>>>
>>>It seems that the number keeps on increasing, by mythical magic, just
>>>as each new lawsuit demanding reparations is filed!!!
>>>
>>>In other words, soon the number of damn JEW claimants for alleged
>>>demise in WWII will exceed the populations of all the countries
>>>involved.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 02:43:34 GMT, vagabond@idirect.com (William
>>>Markiewicz) wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>For a fair approximation of the number of victims, the extent of
>>>>Jewish life in pre-war Europe must be looked at.  See the
>>>>Communication Page, August 97 issue 
>>>>http://web.idirect.com/~vagabond
>>>
>>>sperati wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>>>> From: stefan lemieszewski 
>>>> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>>>> 
>>>> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>>>> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>>>> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>>>> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>>>> 
>>>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>>> titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
>>>> appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>>>> to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>>>> >>Stefan Lemieszewski
>>>> 
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> North Shore News
>>>> February 2, 1997
>>>> 
>>>> Insights from abroad
>>>> Doug Collins
>>>> 
>>>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>>> that is ignored in Canada.
>>>> 
>>>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>>> served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
>>>> 
>>>> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>>>> about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
>>>> 
>>>> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>>>> was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
>>>> transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
>>>> 
>>>> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
>>>> married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>>>> generals, and 23 colonels.
>>>> 
>>>> Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
>>>> Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>>>> more. The research is continuing.
>>>> 
>>>> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>>>> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>>>> alive.
>>>> 
>>>> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>>>> father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
>>>> 
>>>> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>>>> whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
>>>> 
>>>> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>>>> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>>>> 
>>>> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>>>> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>>>> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>>>> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>>>> documents in the process.
>>>> 
>>>> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>>>> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew
>>>> could ever have fought for Hitler.
>>>> 
>>>> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
>>>> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
>>>> 
>>>> He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
>>>> about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>>>> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
>>>> 
>>>> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may be
>>>> used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers of
>>>> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>>>> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>>>> 
>>>> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>>>> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>>>> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>>>> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>>>> 
>>>> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>>>> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>>>> was a Jew.
>>>> 
>>>> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>>>> 
>>>> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>>>> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>>>> one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
>>>> 
>>>> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>>>> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>>>> 
>>>> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>>>> knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced to a
>>>> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>>>> 
>>>> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>>>> 
>>>> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>>>> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>>>> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>>>> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>>>> plotting against Hitler.
>>>> 
>>>> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>>>> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>>>> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>>>> to it that he was discharged from the army.
>>>> 
>>>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>>> wonder why?
>>>> 
>>>> ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>>>> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>>>> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>>>> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>>>
>>>
>>>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>>>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>>>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!



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>On Wed, 11 Nov 1998 15:24:40 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>>On Sun, 19 Jul 1998 22:06:50 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>>>On 1 May 1998 13:08:00 +0200, Irmin@nsm.htp.org wrote:
>
>>>>American Dissident Voices Broadcast of April 25, 1998
>>>>
>>>>Katyn
>>>>by Dr. William Pierce
>>>>
>>>>A background noise that seems never to go away is the constant 
>>>>whining and yammering of the Jews about how the world owes them a 
>>>>living because of their losses during the so-called "Holocaust." 
>>>>They do it, of course, because they make such a big profit on it. 
>>>>The latest flare-up of this Jewish play for a handout came more 
>>>>than a year ago when they began demanding that the Swiss pay them 
>>>>$7 billion, which "Holocaust" victims allegedly had stashed in 
>>>>numbered Swiss accounts before being hauled off to gas chambers 
>>>>during the Second World War.
>>>>
>>>>With a few "bought" Gentile politicians fronting for them, the 
>>>>foremost among these being New York's Senator Alphonse D'Amato, 
>>>>the Jews threatened Switzerland with a boycott by the U.S. 
>>>>government if their demands were not met. Instead of laughing in 
>>>>their faces, telling the Jews to go to hell, and gearing up for 
>>>>countermeasures against Israel and other Jewish interests if the 
>>>>Jews tried to proceed with a boycott, the Swiss politicians tried 
>>>>to placate the Jews by offering to buy themoff. The Jews took the 
>>>>Swiss response as a sign of weakness and escalated their demands.
>>>>
>>>>The average Swiss citizen seems to have a little more pride than
>>>>Switzerland's elected officials, however, and resentment against 
>>>>the Jews' extortion efforts is building in Switzerland now to the 
>>>>point that some of that country's richest Jews are wearing 
>>>>bulletproof vests whenever they must go out in public.
>>>>
>>>>In general, however, this "Holocaust"-based extortion racket 
>>>>works quite well for the Jews, and they have expanded their 
>>>>demands for World War Two reparations to include a number of 
>>>>other countries besides Switzerland. They are even whining that 
>>>>the Vatican owes them because Pope Pius XII didn't do enough to 
>>>>save them from the Germans during the war. The Jews' brazenness 
>>>>in this whole business is quite breathtaking.
>>>>
>>>>Their brazenness, of course, is justified, because by and large 
>>>>they have been getting away with it. And they have been getting 
>>>>away with it because with their media control they have been able 
>>>>to distort the general public's whole perception of what happened 
>>>>during the Second World War. They have been able to portray 
>>>>themselves as innocent victims and just about everyone else as 
>>>>persecutors and aggressors, even the people who were fighting on 
>>>>the Jewish side against the Germans during the war. For example, 
>>>>they have done quite a bit of whining that after the Red Army 
>>>>drove the Germans from Poland, the Poles took the opportunity to 
>>>>lynch hundreds of Jews in 1945 and 1946: Jews whom the Germans 
>>>>somehow had failed to get rid of during their wartime occupation
>>>>of Poland.
>>>>
>>>>Now, why would the Poles do something like that? Why would they 
>>>>lynch the poor Jews, who had been on their side during the war? 
>>>>If you learned about the war from watching Steven Spielberg 
>>>>propaganda films and other mass-media sources, you probably 
>>>>believe that it was because of religious anti-Semitism on the 
>>>>part of the Catholic Poles. Let me tell you the real reason why 
>>>>so many Poles hated Jews after the war. It's something the 
>>>>Jew-controlled media in America have tried hard to keep covered 
>>>>up. Let me tell you about what happened in the Katyn forest
>>>>in 1940.
>>>>
>>>>In September 1939 Poland was invaded from the west by Germany and 
>>>>from the east by the Soviet Union. The Germans wanted back the 
>>>>territory in western Poland, including the city of Danzig, which 
>>>>had been taken from them at the end of the First World War. The 
>>>>Soviets wanted eastern Poland. The Germans and the Soviets 
>>>>divided Poland between them, with the boundary running roughly 
>>>>along the River Bug.
>>>>
>>>>Britain and France, both under strong Jewish pressure, declared 
>>>>war on Germany in September 1939, ostensibly because of Germany's 
>>>>invasion of Poland. They did not declare war on the Soviet Union, 
>>>>which also had invaded Poland. In the United States and in 
>>>>western Europe, where the Jews held a deathgrip on the mass 
>>>>media, a great deal of anti-German propaganda was based on the 
>>>>German grab for Polish territory -- much of which, of course, 
>>>>actually was historically German territory -- and nothing was 
>>>>said of the Soviet occupation and annexation of eastern Poland.
>>>>
>>>>The reason for this anti-German and pro-Soviet bias by the Jewish 
>>>>media was that the Jews were riding high in the Soviet Union as 
>>>>commissars and communist party bosses under Stalin, while in 
>>>>Germany Hitler had undertaken a program since 1933 of freeing 
>>>>Germany from all Jewish influence. Jews had been weeded out of 
>>>>the media, the law, the schools, and other areas of economic and 
>>>>cultural life in Germany. Before Hitler became chancellor in 1933 
>>>>the Jews had done in Germany what they do in every country where 
>>>>they gain a foothold: they had monopolized large sections of the 
>>>>mass media and certain professions and were doing their best to 
>>>>distort German culture, German society, and the German economy
>>>>to suit themselves. Hitler put a stop to that, and two-thirds of 
>>>>the 1933 Jewish population of Germany had emigrated by the 
>>>>invasion of Poland in September 1939. So the Jews hated Germany 
>>>>and were determined to do whatever they could to destroy her.
>>>>
>>>>For his part, Hitler hoped to avoid war with Britain and France. 
>>>>He hoped that after his quick victory in western Poland he could 
>>>>make peace with Britain and France. He was determined, however, 
>>>>to stamp out communism wherever he encountered it. Not only did 
>>>>he hate communism on ideological grounds, but he had sworn to 
>>>>fight communism when the communists in Germany betrayed his 
>>>>country at the end of the First World War. Hitler also saw the 
>>>>Soviet Union as a threat to all of Europe, and he was determined 
>>>>to break the power of that country when he could, even though 
>>>>there was an uneasy non-aggression pact between Germany and the
>>>>Soviet Union in 1939, at the time of their partition of Poland.
>>>>
>>>>In the spring of 1941 massive troop movements and other 
>>>>developments inside the Soviet Union convinced Hitler that Stalin 
>>>>was preparing to invade the west with the Red Army, and so in 
>>>>June 1941 Hitler made a preemptive strike. German forces smashed 
>>>>through the Red Army and made rapid advances, first through 
>>>>Soviet-occupied eastern Poland and then through Ukraine and into 
>>>>Russia.
>>>>
>>>>A year and a half later, in February 1943, German forces near 
>>>>Smolensk, in western Russia, investigated reports they heard from 
>>>>Russian civilians to the effect that a large number of prisoners 
>>>>had been murdered by the Soviet secret police in the area nearly 
>>>>three years earlier. The German investigators were led by local 
>>>>Russians to a series of mounds in a wooded area known locally as 
>>>>Katyn Forest, about 10 miles west of Smolensk. The forest is 
>>>>named for a village, Katyn, which it surrounds. The forest had 
>>>>been privately owned prior to the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917, 
>>>>but after the communist takeover of Russia the area had been 
>>>>confiscated by the government and part of the forest had been
>>>>turned over to the NKVD, the Soviet equivalent of the American 
>>>>FBI.
>>>>
>>>>The Germans began digging in the mounds in the Katyn forest and 
>>>>made a horrible discovery. They found corpse after corpse, each 
>>>>with its hands bound behind its back and a bullet hole in the 
>>>>base of its skull. They continued their excavations for more than 
>>>>a month, and eventually uncovered more than 4,000 corpses. Other 
>>>>bodies may have remained buried in other mounds, but the Germans 
>>>>had no time to dig up the whole forest. Instead they called in 
>>>>the International Red Cross and representatives of various 
>>>>neutral countries to examine their findings. They also brought in 
>>>>groups of Allied prisoners of war, including Americans, from
>>>>prison camps in Germany to view the graves in the Katyn forest. 
>>>>They gave these international inspectors complete freedom to 
>>>>examine the exhumed bodies, permitted doctors among them to 
>>>>conduct autopsies, even allowed them to dig up other bodies from 
>>>>one of the mounds which had not been completely excavated. The 
>>>>Germans asked only that the inspectors report back truthfully to 
>>>>their own governments about their observations. And in fact, most 
>>>>of them did.
>>>>
>>>>What they reported was that the bodies were those of Polish 
>>>>military officers, along with a number of civilian cultural and 
>>>>business leaders and intellectuals -- scientists, writers, poets 
>>>>-- who had been in the portion of Poland occupied by the Soviet 
>>>>Union in September 1939. Altogether the Soviet secret police had 
>>>>rounded up some 15,000 Polish leaders in 1939 -- including nearly 
>>>>half of the entire Polish officer's corps, the half that had had 
>>>>the misfortune of being in eastern Poland at the time -- and put 
>>>>them in three concentration camps in Russia: at Starobelsk, 
>>>>Kozelsk, and Ostashkov. All of the bodies unearthed in the
>>>>Katyn forest were of Polish leaders who had been confined at one 
>>>>of these camps: Starobelsk.
>>>>
>>>>Rounding up a country's leaders and killing them was standard 
>>>>practice for the communists. The theory was that the leaders were 
>>>>bourgeois oppressors of the working class and deserved to die. As 
>>>>egalitarians the communists did not regard the Polish officers 
>>>>and intellectuals as inherently better or more valuable human 
>>>>material than the average Polish criminal or welfare bum; the 
>>>>officers had simply used their class advantage to gain a better 
>>>>life-style for themselves. Of course, no one really believed that 
>>>>theory except the criminals and welfare bums and other resentful 
>>>>losers and ne'er-do-wells who made up the natural communist 
>>>>constituency. As a practical matter, however, killing all the
>>>>leaders and potential leaders of a conquered people made them 
>>>>easier to govern. That's what the Marxists had done in Russia, 
>>>>Ukraine, and the Baltic countries.
>>>>
>>>>In the case of the Poles there was a bit of a diplomatic problem,
>>>>though. The Poles supported the war Britain and France had 
>>>>declared against Germany, purportedly on their behalf, because 
>>>>they viewed that as their one hope for getting back at least the 
>>>>western part of their country. They were not happy about the 
>>>>Russians taking the eastern part of Poland, but the Russians at 
>>>>least were fellow Slavs. The thing to do was get rid of the 
>>>>Germans first and then worry about the Russians. This Polish 
>>>>strategy suited Stalin fine. But it made it desirable for him to
>>>>avoid alienating the Poles any more than necessary. When Polish 
>>>>exiles asked about their imprisoned leaders in late 1939 and 
>>>>early 1940, the Soviet government promised that they would be 
>>>>released shortly. Meanwhile, the decision had been made to kill 
>>>>all of them. And so in April 1940 the Polish leaders were taken 
>>>>from the three camps where they had been imprisoned, trucked off 
>>>>to various liquidation sites, and murdered. The ones who had been 
>>>>imprisoned at Starobelsk all went to the NKVD area of the Katyn 
>>>>forest. After the war some of the NKVD executioners were 
>>>>interviewed in Israel and described how they had carried out the 
>>>>killings.
>>>>
>>>>The Poles were driven up to the burial pits in long NKVD prison 
>>>>trucks known as "black ravens." They were pulled from the trucks 
>>>>one at a time by NKVD guards. Each Polish prisoner had his hands 
>>>>bound behind his back and then was dragged to the edge of a pit. 
>>>>There he was held by two NKVD men while a third fired a pistol 
>>>>bullet into the back of his head. Some of the officers had had 
>>>>their coats pulled over their heads to keep them from seeing what 
>>>>was happening before they were shot. Some struggled and were 
>>>>bayonetted by NKVD guards before being shot and thrown into the
>>>>pit. When all of the officers from Starobelsk had been killed, 
>>>>some 4,400 of them, the Katyn forest burial pits were covered 
>>>>with dirt and pine trees were planted on them. The locations of 
>>>>the mass graves of the prisoners from the camps at Kozelsk and 
>>>>Ostashkov remain unknown, but none of the 15,000 Polish officers 
>>>>and intellectuals rounded up by the NKVD in September 1939 was 
>>>>seen alive after April 1940.
>>>>
>>>>The Red Cross representatives and the Allied prisoners the 
>>>>Germans brought in to examine the mass graves in the Katyn forest 
>>>>understood after their examination not only who had been killed; 
>>>>they also understood who had killed them. This was apparent not 
>>>>only from the medical estimates of the length of time the bodies 
>>>>had been buried, but also from documentary evidence on the 
>>>>bodies. Diaries, news clippings, letters, and other personal 
>>>>papers removed from the clothing of the victims all told the same 
>>>>story: the latest dates on any of these papers were from 
>>>>mid-April 1940. The Polish leaders had been killed in April 1940, 
>>>>when they were prisoners of the Soviet Union and when the Katyn
>>>>region was under Soviet control. And this is what they reported 
>>>>back to their governments.
>>>>
>>>>So what do you think happened? Were the British and American 
>>>>governments horrified to discover that their "gallant Soviet 
>>>>ally," as the Soviet Union was referred to by the mass media, was 
>>>>a mass murderer? Did the British government, which had gone to 
>>>>war against Germany under the pretext of defending Poland, decide 
>>>>that it had made a mistake? Did anyone condemn the Soviet Union 
>>>>for this act of genocide against the Poles?
>>>>
>>>>Of course not! The Allied governments ordered their people who 
>>>>had inspected the Katyn site to keep their mouths shut, and the 
>>>>Jewish media immediately began announcing that the Germans had 
>>>>done it. A mass murder of Polish officers and intellectuals by 
>>>>the Nazis had been discovered in the Katyn forest, the New York 
>>>>Times and the rest of the Jewish media shrieked. Poor Poles! 
>>>>Wicked Germans! The war must go on to free the poor Poles and 
>>>>punish the wicked Germans. And the war did go on, killing
>>>>millions of more Germans, British, Americans, and other 
>>>>Europeans. And the Germans were indeed punished. The Poles, of 
>>>>course, were not freed. Instead they were turned over to the 
>>>>Reds, who had butchered their leaders in the Katyn forest, and 
>>>>made to suffer under communist rule for half a century.
>>>>
>>>>The war went on after the German discovery of the mass graves in 
>>>>the Katyn forest, because its purpose from the beginning was not 
>>>>to free Poland but to destroy Germany, which had dared to free 
>>>>itself from the Jews. Roosevelt understood this. Churchill 
>>>>understood this. But the American and British people didn't 
>>>>understand it, of course, because they were lied to by the Jewish 
>>>>media and by their own governments, who in 1943 as in 1998 have 
>>>>done whatever has been politically expedient. And what has been 
>>>>politically expedient has been what the Jewish media bosses have 
>>>>decided.
>>>>
>>>>The lies about Katyn were maintained by the media for some years 
>>>>after the end of the war, because these lies meshed nicely with 
>>>>the "Holocaust" story which was making so much money for the 
>>>>Jews. Nowadays, of course, the truth about the Katyn murders is 
>>>>generally accepted by historians everywhere. You can go into 
>>>>almost any large library and read about it and even see the 
>>>>gruesome photographs that the Germans took of the Polish bodies 
>>>>they dug up. One of several authoritative books on the subject is 
>>>>J.K. Zawodny's Death in the Forest: the Story of the Katyn
>>>>Forest Massacre, published in 1962 by the University of Notre 
>>>>Dame Press. None of this is publicized a la Steven Spielberg, of 
>>>>course, for the illumination of American television audiences. It 
>>>>still might undermine the Jews' "Holocaust" racket.
>>>>
>>>>In 1945 and 1946, although the deceived citizens of the western 
>>>>world didn't know the truth about Katyn, Polish patriots did. The 
>>>>word had gotten back to the Polish prisoners in German camps from 
>>>>the Poles the Germans had taken to examine the graves. After the 
>>>>war, when these Polish prisoners were freed, the word spread to 
>>>>other Poles. They knew that it was the communists, not the Nazis, 
>>>>who had murdered their leaders, who had beheaded their nation. 
>>>>And they knew who was behind communism, from the Jew Karl Marx, 
>>>>who had started the whole business, up to the Jewish commissars 
>>>>who lorded it over them in Soviet-occupied Poland. They knew who 
>>>>had welcomed their Soviet conquerors and then collaborated with 
>>>>those conquerors. And so it is hardly surprising that in 1945 and 
>>>>1946 a few Polish patriots organized lynchings of Jews in Poland, 
>>>>before the Reds had a chance to clamp down on all of Poland and
>>>>suppress any further expressions of anti-communist or anti-Jewish
>>>>feeling.
>>>>
>>>>No, the Polish dislike of Jews isn't surprising. What is 
>>>>surprising is that so few patriots in America and Britain have 
>>>>expressed their outrage against the Jews, not only for what they 
>>>>did to the Poles during and after the war, but for what they have 
>>>>done to us: lying to us and using us to wage their wars for them. 
>>>>If patriots study the Katyn story and take its lesson to heart, 
>>>>they will understand why they cannot trust either the mass media 
>>>>or any government which dances to the tune played by the media. 
>>>>Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill were as much liars and 
>>>>traitors as Bill Clinton and Tony Blair.
>>>>
>>>>Anyway, you might remember Katyn the next time you hear the Jews 
>>>>or some of their bought politicians whining about how much gold 
>>>>was stolen from them by the Swiss or how badly the Poles and the 
>>>>Germans treated them during the Second World War.
>>>>
>>>>The text above is based on a broadcast of the American Dissident
>>>>Voices radio program sponsored by National Vanguard Books. To 
>>>>receive weekly ADV transcripts, mail: ADVlist@ListServe.com 
>>>>Write "subscribe" as the subject of your message. 
>>>>
>>>>++++++++++++++
>>>>
>>>>American Renaissance
>>>>http://www.amren.com
>>>>
>>>>Campaign for Radical Truth in History
>>>>http://www.hoffman-info.com
>>>>
>>>>Euro-American Students Union
>>>>http://esu.simplenet.com
>>>>
>>>>Katja Lane's Fourteen Word Press
>>>>http://www.14words.com
>>>>
>>>>National Alliance
>>>>http://www.natvan.com
>>>>
>>>>Stormfront
>>>>http://www.stormfront.org
>>>>
>>>>Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library
>>>>http://www.ddc.net/ygg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>



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On Wed, 07 Oct 1998 20:48:00 GMT, sbjarnason@heimat.zhid.org wrote:

>On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 18:31:48 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI
> wrote:
>
>>============
>>Just a moment ago, on soc.culture.polish, Dr. J. Ilicki, Associate
>>Professor of Sociology and Judaic Studies on Upsalla University raised
>>the question of Polish Polish in the service of Germans during
>>occupation of Poland.  The only reason for this question at this time
>>seems to be his need to stir interethnic hatered.  Provacatively, Dr.
>>Ilicki asks: 1) who were the members of the police, volunteers or
>>draftees?, 2) what was their social status? 3) what happened to them
>>after the war?  Just to play completely innocent (and dumb) he also asks
>>why they were called Granatowa (dark-navy-blue) Police.
>>
>>Only naive will believe that Prof. Ilicki does not know the answeres. 
>>Also only naive will believe that he is not interested in Pinsk the
>>hometown of his parents and allegedly the site of the burial of his
>>grandparents and over 30,000 pinksers (Jews from Pinsk).  He admitted
>>that his mother listed them as killed there with Yad Vashem.  However,
>>young (about 40 years old) Julian pretends disintrest, because he is
>>afraid that exhumations might start at the alleged burial site and will
>>find no skeletons as same happened last year at nearby Mariompole,
>>presently in Lithuania.
>>
>>But coming back to Dr Illicki question: Polish Police during German
>>occupation was  dramatically reduced in numbers and pre-war policemen
>>were forced to serve as an auxillary force to German Ordnung Polizei. 
>>They were ususally not armed, and when armed never given more than five
>>bullets for their long rifles.  Moreover, after each use of firearm they
>>(as well as the Ukraininan Police) had to write a report for what target
>>each bulett was used and with what effectivness, hardly an invitation to
>>the genocide.
>>
>>On the other hand there was a police force in the Third Reich, in which
>>service was completely voluntary.  It was called Ordnungdienst.  Their
>>emblem was a light alloy Star of David.  The social background of these
>>Jewish collaborators according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18% with
>>post-graduate degrees,  60% with college degree, 20% with elementary
>>education.  These are data from self-serving, post-war questionaries.
>>
>>But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the requirement was that EACH
>>Jewish policeman has at least matura (two years of college) see page 489
>>of his book.  In practice, the Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
>>journalist who with the day of German occupation immediately were fired
>>from their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because the schools were
>>closed.
>>
>>While Polish teachers joined the underground, unemployed Jewish
>>intelligentia clamored for the police work.  
>>
>>Some of it was really guresome as your remember from our previous
>>description of the Feb. 1942 execution on Rybna Street market place in
>>Lodz.  German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown endlessly in
>>Wisenthal Museum in LA.  Thousands of Jews standing and watching behind
>>three uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered pistols facing
>>Jewish crowd and about to be hanged women passing out and forced into
>>the noose by Jewish Policemen.
>>
>>-------------
>>Jozef Pawlikowski
>>
>>We think that it is unethical that you refuse to look for the mass
>>graves of your relatives and ancestors from Pinsk Dr. Ilicki.  We found
>>ours in Katyn, Miednoje Kharkiv, Palmiry, Treblinka I for Poles and
>>dozens of other places.  Why you shrink from searching for your
>>ancestors, Dr Ilicki?
>>
>>------------
>>
>>
>>Julian Ilicki wrote:
>>> 
>>> W ostatnim czasie poruszalo sie tutaj nieco sprawe granatowej policji.
>>> Czy ktos wie jak odbywala sie rekrutacja do tej policji? Czy byla to po
>>> prostu policja przedwojenna ktora pod innym dowodztwem i w innych mundurach
>>> kontynuowala swoja dzialalnosc z okresu przedwojennego? A jezeli tak, to
>>> czy przedwojenni policjanci byli zmuszeni do pozostawania w szeregach
>>> granatowej policji (i jakimi sankcjami sie to wymuszalo), cz mogli moze
>>> policje opuscic po kampanii wrzesniowej? Czy odbywala sie rekrutacja nowych
>>> policjantow podczas okupacji i w jaki sposob? Co sie z tymi ludzmi stalo po
>>> wojnie? I skad sie bierze nazwa "granatowa policja" - czy od kolorow
>>> mundurow?
>>> 
>>> Julian
>>> 
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Julian Ilicki, Ph.D.                 e-mail: julian.ilicki@soc.uu.se
>>> Uppsala Univ., Dept. of Sociology, Box 821, S-751 08 Uppsala, Sweden
>>> voice, office: +46 - 18 4711513      voice, private: +46 - 18 204747
>>> fax, Dept.:    +46 - 18 4711170      cellular:      +46 - 70 7533731
>>>               http://www.soc.uu.se/staff/julian_i.html
>>>                     http://www.soc.uu.se/~julian/
>>Julian Ilicki wrote:
>>> 
>>> W ostatnim czasie poruszalo sie tutaj nieco sprawe granatowej policji.
>>> Czy ktos wie jak odbywala sie rekrutacja do tej policji? Czy byla to po
>>> prostu policja przedwojenna ktora pod innym dowodztwem i w innych mundurach
>>> kontynuowala swoja dzialalnosc z okresu przedwojennego? A jezeli tak, to
>>> czy przedwojenni policjanci byli zmuszeni do pozostawania w szeregach
>>> granatowej policji (i jakimi sankcjami sie to wymuszalo), czy mogli moze
>>> policje opuscic po kampanii wrzesniowej? Czy odbywala sie rekrutacja nowych
>>> policjantow podczas okupacji i w jaki sposob? Co sie z tymi ludzmi stalo po
>>> wojnie? I skad sie bierze nazwa "granatowa policja" - czy od kolorow
>>> mundurow?
>>> 
>>> Julian
>>> 
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Julian Ilicki, Ph.D.                 e-mail: julian.ilicki@soc.uu.se
>>> Uppsala Univ., Dept. of Sociology, Box 821, S-751 08 Uppsala, Sweden
>>> voice, office: +46 - 18 4711513      voice, private: +46 - 18 204747
>>> fax, Dept.:    +46 - 18 4711170      cellular:      +46 - 70 7533731
>>>               http://www.soc.uu.se/staff/julian_i.html
>>>                     http://www.soc.uu.se/~julian/



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On Fri, 25 Dec 1998 21:44:34 GMT, kahaneken@nazikor.niz.org wrote:
>On Thu, 26 Nov 1998 14:58:53 GMT, KenSicko@zhid.oz.org wrote:
>>On 26 Nov 1998 02:04:42 GMT, marek13@aol.com (Marek13) wrote:

>>>The proper word is "Holocaust."  Can't you spell English?

>>The proper term is HOLOHOAX, in connection with the extortion of
>>billions of dollars from gullible governments, and institutions, such
>>as from Switzerland!!!


>>On Sat, 18 Jul 1998 11:31:10 -0600, "Bassam Kouatli"
>> wrote:

>>>Zionism and the Holocaust
>
>>>Haim Bresheeth, in RETURN, March 1989
>>>The first point to note regarding the appropriation of the history of the
>>>Holocaust by Zionist propaganda is that Zionism without anti-Semitism is
>>>impossible. Zionism agrees with the basic tenet of anti-Semitism, namely
>>>that Jews cannot live with non-Jews.
>>>The history and roots of the Holocaust go back a long way. While the
>>>industry of death and destruction did not operate before 1942, its roots
>>>were firmly placed in the 19th Century. Jewish aspirations for emancipation
>>>emerged out of the national struggles in Europe. When the hopes for
>>>liberation through bourgeois-democratic change were dashed, other
>>>alternatives for improving the lot of the Jews of Europe achieved
>>>prominence.
>>>
>>>The socialist Bund, a mass movement with enormous following, had to contend
>>>with opposition from a new and small, almost insignificant opponent, the
>>>political Zionists. In outline these two offered diametrically opposed
>>>options for Jews in Europe. While the Bund was suggesting joining forces
>>>with the rest of Europe's workers, the Zionists were proposing a new
>>>programme aimed at ridding Europe of its Jews by setting up some form of a
>>>Jewish state.
>>>
>>>Historically, nothing is inevitable, all depends on the balance of forces
>>>involved in the struggle. History can be seen as an option tree: every time
>>>a certain option is chosen, other routes become barred. Because of that
>>>choice, movement backwards to the point before that choice was mad is
>>>impossible. While Zionism as an option was taken by many young Jews, it
>>>remained a minority position until the first days of the 3rd Reich. The
>>>Zionist Federation of Germany (ZVfD), an organisation representing a tiny
>>>minority of German Jews, was selected by the Nazis as the body to represent
>>>the Jews of the Reich. Its was the only flag of an international
>>>organisation allowed to fly in Berlin, and this was the only international
>>>organisation allowed to operate during this period. From a marginal
>>>position, the leaders of the Zionist Federation were propelled to a
>>>prominence and centrality that surprised even them. All of a sudden they
>>>attained political power, power based not on representation, but from being
>>>selected as the choice of the Nazi regime for dealing with the 'Jewish
>>>problem'. Their position in negotiating with the Nazis agreements that
>>>affected the lives of many tens of thousands of the Jews in Germany
>>>transformed them from a utopian, marginal organisation in Germany (and some
>>>other countries in Europe) into a real option to be considered by German
>>>Jews.
>>>
>>>The best example of this was the 'Transfer Agreement' of 1934. Immediately
>>>after the Nazi takeover in 1933, Jews all over the world supported or were
>>>organising a world wide boycott of German goods. This campaign hurt the Nazi
>>>regime and the German authorities searched frantically for a way disabling
>>>the boycott. It was clear that if Jews and Jewish organisations were to pull
>>>out, the campaign would collapse.
>>>
>>>This problem was solved by the ZVfD. A letter sent to the Nazi party as
>>>early as 21.6.33, outlined the degree of agreement that existed between the
>>>two organisations on the questions of race, nation, and the nature of the
>>>'Jewish problem', and it offered to collaborate with the new regime:
>>>
>>>The realisation of Zionism could only be hurt by resentment of Jews abroad
>>>against the German development. Boycott propaganda - such as is currently
>>>being carried on against Germany in many ways - is in essence unZionist,
>>>because Zionism wants not to do battle but to convince and build...
>>>
>>>In their eagerness to gain credence and the backing of the new regime, the
>>>Zionist organisation managed to undermine the boycott. The main public act
>>>was the signature of the 'Transfer Agreement' with the Nazi authorities
>>>during the Zionist Congress of 1934. In essence, the agreement was designed
>>>to get Germany's Jews out of the country and into Mandate Palestine. It
>>>provided a possibility for Jews to take a sizeable part of their property
>>>out of the country, through a transfer of German goods to Palestine. This
>>>right was denied to Jews leaving for any other destination (emphasis - ED).
>>>The Zionist Organisation was the acting agent, through its financial
>>>organisations. This agreement operated on a number of fronts 'helping' Jews
>>>to leave the country, breaking the ring of the boycott, exporting German
>>>goods in large quantities to Palestine, and last but not least, enabling the
>>>regime to be seen as humane and reasonable even towards its avowed enemies,
>>>the Jews. After all, they argued, the Jews do not belong in Europe and now
>>>the Jews come and agree with them.
>>>
>>>After news of the agreement broke, the boycott was doomed. If the Zionist
>>>Organisation found it possible and necessary to deal with the Nazis, and
>>>import their goods, who could argue for a boycott? This was not the first
>>>time that the interests of both movements were presented to the German
>>>public as complementary. Baron Von Mildenstein, the first head of the Jewish
>>>Department of the SS, later followed by Eichmann, was invited to travel to
>>>Palestine. This he did in early 1933, in the company of a Zionist leader,
>>>Kurt Tuchler. Having spent six months in Palestine, he wrote a series of
>>>favourable articles in Der Sturmer describing the 'new Jew' of Zionism, a
>>>Jew Nazis could accept and understand.
>>>
>>>This little-known episode established quite clearly the relationship during
>>>the early days of Nazism, between the new regime and the ZVfD, a
>>>relationship that was echoed later in a number of key instances, even after
>>>the nature of the Final Solution became clear. In many cases this meant a
>>>silencing of reports about the horrors of the exterminations. A book
>>>concentrating on this aspect of the Zionist reaction to the Holocaust is
>>>Post-Ugandan Zionism in the Crucible of the Holocaust, by S.B. Beth-Zvi.
>>>
>>>In the case of the Kastner episode, around which Jim Allen's play PERDITION
>>>is based, even the normal excuse of lack of knowledge of the real nature of
>>>events does not exist. It occurred near the end of the war. The USSR had
>>>advanced almost up to Germany. Italy and the African bases had been lost.
>>>The Nazis were on the run, with a number of key countries, such as Rumania,
>>>leaving the Axis. A second front was a matter of months away, as the western
>>>Allies prepared their forces. In the midst of all this we find Eichmann, the
>>>master bureaucrat of industrial murder, setting up is HQ in occupied
>>>Budapest, after the German takeover of the country in April 1944. His first
>>>act was to have a conference with the Jewish leadership, and to appoint
>>>Zionist Federation members, headed by Kastner, as the agent and clearing
>>>house for all Jews in their relationship with the SS and Nazi authorities.
>>>Why they did this is not difficult to see. As opposed to Poland, where its
>>>three and half million Jews lived in ghettoes and were visible different
>>>from the rest of the Polish population, the Hungarian Jews were in
>>>integrated part of the community. The middle class was mainly Jewish, the
>>>Jews were mainly middle class. They enjoyed freedom of travel, served in the
>>>Hungarian (fascist) army in frontline units, as officers and soldiers, their
>>>names were Hungarian - how was Eichmann to find them if they were to be
>>>exterminated ? The task was not easy, there were a million Jews in Hungary,
>>>most of them resident, the rest being refugees from other countries. Many
>>>had heard about the fate of Jews elsewhere, and were unlikely to believe any
>>>statements by Nazi officials.
>>>
>>>Like elsewhere, the only people who had the information and the ear of the
>>>frightened Jewish population were the Judenrat. In this case the Judenrat
>>>comprised mainly the Zionist Federation members. Without their help the SS,
>>>with 19 officers and less than 90 men, plus a few hundred Hungarian police,
>>>could not have collected and controlled a million Jews, when they did not
>>>even know their whereabouts. Kastner and the others were left under no
>>>illusions. Eichmann told Joel Brand, one of the members of Kastner's
>>>committee, that he intended to send all Hungary's Jews to Auschwitz, before
>>>he even started the expulsions! He told them clearly that all these Jews
>>>will die, 12,000 a day, unless certain conditions were met.
>>>
>>>The Committee faced a simple choice - to tell the Jews of Hungary about
>>>their fate, (with neutral Rumania, where many could escape, being in most
>>>cases a few hours away) or to collaborate with the Nazis by assisting in the
>>>concentration process. What would not have been believed when coming from
>>>the SS, sounded quite plausible when coming from the mouths of the Zionist
>>>leadership. Thus it is, that most of the Hungarian Jews went quietly to
>>>their death, assured by their leadership that they were sent to work camps.
>>>
>>>To be sure, there are thirty pieces of silver in this narrative of
>>>destruction: the trains of 'prominents' which Eichmann promised to Kastner -
>>>a promise he kept to the last detail. For Eichmann it was a bargain:
>>>allowing 1,680 Jews to survive, as the price paid for the silent
>>>collaboration over the death of almost a million Jews.
>>>
>>>There was no way in which the Jews of Hungary could even be located, not to
>>>say murdered, without the full collaboration of Kastner and his few friends.
>>>No doubt the SS would hunt a few Jews here and there, but the scale of the
>>>operation would have been minuscule compared to the half million who died in
>>>Auschwitz.
>>>
>>>It is important to realise that Kastner was not an aberration, like say
>>>Rumkovky in Lodz. Kastner acted as a result of his strongly held Zionist
>>>convictions. His actions were a logical outcome of earlier positions. This
>>>is instanced when he exposed to the Gestapo the existence of a British cell
>>>of saboteurs, Palgi and Senesh, and persuaded them to give themselves up, so
>>>as not to disrupt his operations. At no point during his trial or elsewhere,
>>>did Kastner deny that he knew exactly what was to happen to those Jews.
>>>
>>>To conclude, the role played by Zionists in this period, was connected to
>>>another role they could, and should have played, that of alarming the whole
>>>world to what was happening in Europe. They had the information, but
>>>politically it was contrary to their priorities. The priorities were, and
>>>still are, quite simple: All that furthers the Zionist enterprise in
>>>Palestine is followed, whatever the price. The lives of individuals, Jews
>>>and non-Jews, are secondary. If this process requires dealing with fascists,
>>>Nazis and other assorted dictatorial regimes across the world, so be it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>You'll find more at: http://www.alquds.org/palestine/
>>>
>>>
>>>



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If you think that thefts by Ukraine Post are bad, read the following
about the organised crime managers in Canada Post!!!

Perhasps the non-delivery of care packages from Canada is because of
thefts by managers in Canada Post, and not Ukraine Post???



On Fri, 11 Dec 1998 16:12:49 GMT, chiffre@chambre.com wrote:
>On Mon, 30 Nov 1998 02:31:54 GMT, loong@rakyat.com wrote:

>>Just wondering, does this mean people will not be sending Christmas
>>mail this year, because of concern about theft??

>>On Wed, 25 Nov 1998 14:17:19 GMT, KenSicko@zhid.oz.org wrote:

>>>>I am selling through internet and I meanwhile have been loosing mail
>>>>worth USD 1000.00 + . Of course registered letters. No use. They do
>>>>what
>>>>they want over there. If I get an order from Canada I get frightened.
>>>>And it is going on like that since a very long time.
>>>>Friedrich
                                                          
>>>>I    Austrian Consult AG                                              
>>>>I    Dr. Friedrich Zettl                                              
>>>>I    Bruennerstrasse 20                    Tel: + 43 1 275 55 - 249

>>>>I    A - 1210 Wien                        FAX: + 43 1 275 55 - 100

>>>>I    A U S T R I A         http://www.profinet.at/austrianconsult/    
>>>>I_____________________________________________________________________


>>>>On Sat, 31 Oct 1998 01:51:38 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>>>>wrote:
>>>>>On 30 Oct 1998 15:47:29 GMT, kmcvay@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay
>>>>>SOB) wanted to write the following rather than supporting the thieves
>>>>>in Canada Post:

>>>>>On Tuesday 14 October 1998, a Court in Edmonton Canada confirmed that
>>>>>Canada Post IS above the law, even above Magna Carta and the Canadian
>>>>>Bill of Rights.



>>>>>The Court confirmed, that  THEY DO NOT HAVE TO PAY ONE CENT IN
>>>>>COMPENSATION, even if their managers STEAL  or lose a full sack of
>>>>>mail, being a sack full of computer propgrams being sent to the
>>>>>Government of Cuba!!

>>>>>Further, that they are immune from any and all lawsuits!!!

>>>>>No wonder so many people are having their mail, including registered,
>>>>>STOLEN by managers at Canada Post!!!

>>>>>Ask your government to consider an EMBARGO against Canada Post, until
>>>>>they stop stealing mail!!!

>>>>>>On Sat, 08 Aug 1998 14:03:13 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:

>>>>>>>Following all the recent news stories about thefts of mail by Canada
>>>>>>>Post, today (7 August 1998) Canada Post is being sued, in two separate lawsuits!!!

>>>>>>>The most damaging one relates to the disappearance of AN ENTIRE SACK
>>>>>>>OF MAIL consisting of approximately 52 pounds of computer programs,
>>>>>>>worth more than $4,000.-- in a   PO sealed sack, destined for a
>>>>>>>foreign government department. The sackful was delivered and sealed on
>>>>>>>10th June. According to written admissions from Canada Post, it
>>>>>>>somehow "DISAPPEARED" the same day.Alberta Court Docket #P9890306082.

>>>>>>>Mind you, the criminals running Canada Post did not bother to advise
>>>>>>>the victim for one month, until 9th July!! It is now 2 months, Canada
>>>>>>>Post say they have no idea how the full mail sack disappeared, and
>>>>>>>they refuse to pay compensation for their thieves!!!

>>>>>>>Since normal workers/staff can no longer steal because they are
>>>>>>>constantly videotaped, one must assume that managers in canada Post
>>>>>>>are somehow involved in the disappearance.

>>>>>>>At the same time, another lawsuit was filed against Canada Post, in
>>>>>>>connection with a "security registered" item, with $3000.-- worth of
>>>>>>>stamps sent to a representative of a European government, which
>>>>>>>"disappeared"  last year!!!Alberta Court Docket# p9890306081.

>>>>>>>Victims are now getting together to organise a major international
>>>>>>>campaign.

>>>>>>>If you have had mail "disappear", whether 'lost' or stolen - SUE
>>>>>>>THEM!!!

>>>>>>>Some of the contact names and phone numbers of the big sh*ts 
>>>>>>>at Canada Post include:

>>>>>>>Alfonso Galiano,MP - Minister for Canada Post - 819-997-5421
>>>>>>>	Jonathan Moser is his gofer /kulak- same number

>>>>>>>Georges Clermont - President of Canada Post - phone 613-734-8440
>>>>>>>	Sebastian Barnard is his gofer/kulak - same number

>>>>>>>Stewart Bacon - VP Canada Post - phone 613-734-8440

>>>>>>>Also be sure to send copies of your charges to the Deputy Leader of
>>>>>>>the Opposition in the Canadian Parliament, Deborah Grey, MP.

>>>>>>>In addition to the foregoing, notify all media in your area to run
>>>>>>>this story, together with your complaints.

>>>>>>>Further, foreign postal administrations  including USPS are also being
>>>>>>>contacted. Perhaps they can be convinced, to again place an EMBARGO on
>>>>>>>mail to and from canada, until such time as Canada Post can ensure the
>>>>>>>safety, and reliability of delivery of mail, without it
>>>>>>>disappearing!!!

>>>>>>>The original article documenting the problems experience by Carl Kane,
>>>>>>>as documented  with APS, are but the tips of the problem.


>>>>>>>It seems that dealers in Canada, and also now in UK, are filing their
>>>>>>>complaints about thefts from Canada mails, with the MP D.Grey in
>>>>>>>Ottawa, and also with media all over the world.

>>>>>>>>Read all the articles below!!!

>>>>>>>>It is not only in Toronto that Registered Mail is being regularly
>>>>>>>>stolen.


>>>>>>>>On Mon, 30 Mar 1998 04:19:49 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:

>>>>>>>>>Western Canada, especially Edmonton, (where reside many Ukrainians) is being reported in the media as
>>>>>>>>>the latest crisis area for thefts, particularly of Registered Mail.

>>>>>>>>>Apparently, senior staff in the main post office have been helping
>>>>>>>>>themselves to mail of value, even including Registered mail.

>>>>>>>>>So far, only one person has been charged, and convicted in Court.

>>>>>>>>>Even the media have had to admit, that the thefts are still
>>>>>>>>>continuing, so it is obvious that the senior thieves have still not
>>>>>>>>>been arrested.

>>>>>>>>>Governments overseas have been forced to intervene in connection with
>>>>>>>>>the ongoing thefts from and to Edmonton, Canada.

>>>>>>>>>Coming on the heels of the stupid mail strike just before Christmas,
>>>>>>>>>it seems Canada Post just does not give a damn about delivering the
>>>>>>>>>mail.

>>>>>>>>>That only a few of the staff, probably management types, are the
>>>>>>>>>culprits makes it difficult for those who are really honest workers in
>>>>>>>>>Canada Post. It seems further, that management of Canada Post just
>>>>>>>>>want to hush up, and cover up, the ongoing thefts.


>>>>>>>>If you also are a victim of theft from the mails through western
>>>>>>>>Canada, you should be contacting the following:

>>>>>>>>Also, be sure to send copies of your complaint to the following;
>>>>>>>>Ms.D.Gray - Deputy Leader of the Reform Party of Canada
>>>>>>>>HOUSE OF COMMONS,
>>>>>>>>OTTAWA - CANADA

>>>>>>>>She is handling many complaints of thefts from the mail, even of
>>>>>>>>Registered items!!!!

>>>>>>>>No postage is needed if mailed in Canada

>>>>>>>>Send your complaints of theft from the mails in Canada, in addition to
>>>>>>>>D.Grey,MP, to your local media - radio,tv and newspapers.


>>>>>>>>On 11 Jun 1998 18:34:27 GMT, jtc@crosslink.net (Jay T. Carrigan)
>>>>>>>>wrote:

>>>>>>>>>Rainer,

>>>>>>>>>Sorry to hear about your had problems with registered mail.

>>>>>>>Here's a very relevant "letter to the editor" published in the June 
>>>>>>>1998 issue of the American Philatelist:

>>>>>>>"Canadian Mail Warning

>>>>>>>"Philatelists should be aware of a string of registered mail losses of
>>>>>>>letters and packages destined for or originating from Toronto, Canada,
>>>>>>>in the last two years.  Despite the fact that twenty-three  Canadian
>>>>>>>Postal Corp (CPC) employees were arrested for mail theft in 1997, the
>>>>>>>losses continue, indicating that the arrests may have touched only the
>>>>>>>tip of the iceberg.

>>>>>>>"The arrests occurred in June 1997 at the Toronto's Gateway Postal 
>>>>>>>Terminal, the largest mail sorting facility in Canada.  Unfortunately,

>>>>>>>to date there are no reports that any of those arrested have been 
>>>>>>>charged or prosecuted, material reported missing by thousands of 
>>>>>>>customers remains missing, and CPC users continue to suffer sometimes 
>>>>>>>substantial losses.

>>>>>>>"Also unfortunately, there have been no stories in the American press
>>>>>>>about these increasingly frequent losses.  Collectors must be warned
>>>>>>>of the high risk of using the Canadian mail service.  Registered mail 
>>>>>>>is no protection against loss, and in fact may flag the mail to the 
>>>>>>>attention of the mail handlers who prey on the public.  If you must 
>>>>>>>send material to Canada, or if you need to receive items from the
>>>>>>>country, you will be more successful if you use Federal Express and
>>>>>>>pay the higher cost.

>>>>>>>                                                        Carl E. Kane
>>>>>>>                                          East Dennis, Massachusetts"

>>>>>>>>>     Jay Carrigan          jtc@crosslink.net


>>>>>>>>>In article <6l895l$r19$1@gulfa.kuwait.net>, Rainer Fuchs
>>>>>>>>> writes
>>>>>>>>>>How does the Canadian Post handles registered letters?
>>>>>>>>>>Does the receiver need to sign a receive note?

>>>>>>>>>>It seems that some of my registered letters to Canada have not reached the
>>>>>>>>>>receiver. For the first letter a inquiry was made... and the addressee just
>>>>>>>>>>needed to sign on a paper form from the Canadian Post that he has not
>>>>>>>>>>received the letter. Does the Canadian Post is not able to track the
>>>>>>>>>>letters?

>>>>>>>>>>Rainer Fuchs
>>>>>>>>>>Email:    r.fuchs@euromail.com
>>>>>>>>>>Web Site: http://fuchs-online.com


>>>>>>>>If the thefts are in Canada, there is little point complaining to
>>>>>>>>USPS.
>>>>>>>>Complain to APS, and then the Canadian MP who is interested, as well
>>>>>>>>as other media.




On Thu, 31 Dec 1998 18:22:15 +0000, advocate 
wrote:

>I hope you haven't sent your friends in Ukraine any food or chocolate
>this holiday.  According to the main post office in Kiev, all packages
>containing foodstuffs, even a stick of chewing gum, will be "returned"
>to sender.
>
>This "secret" rule seems to have been "organized" just in time for
>Christmas by some "smooth operator" in the postal service.
>
>Maybe all this food will go for Kuchma's New year's table?



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On 31 Dec 1998 12:59:19 -0800, kmcvay (Ken McVay) wrote:


>>IF IT IS "ILLEGAL" AS YOU CLAIM,  under the Criminal Code, why is the
>>Jew Rabbi not charged??

>"The only cure for faggots is instant cremation!!!"

>"To completely eliminate AIDS, just get rid of all the disease-ridden 
>faggots - preferably by instant immolation." 

>"As a consequence, to eliminate AIDS, one should start by 
>eliminating,permanently, those responsible for the spread of AIDS - 
>the faggots." (Ibid.)



On Sat, 26 Dec 1998 19:04:05 GMT, kenmaggot@nazikor.niz.org wrote:

>In a move sure to anger orthodox Jews, as well as normal humans, newspapers
>across Canada report that a Winnipeg synagogue will perform marriages
>of same sex persons.

>This, even though there is no law in Canada permitting this!!!

>Rabbi Michael  Levenson of Temple Shalom admits that his actions are
>illegal. 


If his actions are illegal, why don't the authorities send him to
jail??


>He is quoted as saying that his ceremonies will be recognised
>from a religious point of view, not a political one. Levenson alleges
>that members of his temple supposedly supported his action.  However,
>even normal Jews are criticising this action. It seems that what this
>Jew is doing, is NOT acceptable, according to the Torah.


No wonder people think of the jews as mainly sodomites.



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>On Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:02:29 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>wrote:
>>On Mon, 22 Sep 1997 17:28:24 GMT, odessa88@direct.ca wrote:

>>>If there were so many documented JEWS in the German military, one MUST
>>>question how many may have died in WWII!!!
>>>
>>>It seems that the number keeps on increasing, by mythical magic, just
>>>as each new lawsuit demanding reparations is filed!!!
>>>
>>>In other words, soon the number of damn JEW claimants for alleged
>>>demise in WWII will exceed the populations of all the countries
>>>involved.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 02:43:34 GMT, vagabond@idirect.com (William
>>>Markiewicz) wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>For a fair approximation of the number of victims, the extent of
>>>>Jewish life in pre-war Europe must be looked at.  See the
>>>>Communication Page, August 97 issue 
>>>>http://web.idirect.com/~vagabond
>>>
>>>sperati wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>>>> From: stefan lemieszewski 
>>>> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>>>> 
>>>> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>>>> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>>>> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>>>> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>>>> 
>>>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>>> titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
>>>> appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>>>> to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>>>> >>Stefan Lemieszewski
>>>> 
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> North Shore News
>>>> February 2, 1997
>>>> 
>>>> Insights from abroad
>>>> Doug Collins
>>>> 
>>>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>>> that is ignored in Canada.
>>>> 
>>>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>>> served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
>>>> 
>>>> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>>>> about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
>>>> 
>>>> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>>>> was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
>>>> transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
>>>> 
>>>> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
>>>> married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>>>> generals, and 23 colonels.
>>>> 
>>>> Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
>>>> Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>>>> more. The research is continuing.
>>>> 
>>>> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>>>> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>>>> alive.
>>>> 
>>>> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>>>> father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
>>>> 
>>>> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>>>> whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
>>>> 
>>>> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>>>> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>>>> 
>>>> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>>>> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>>>> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>>>> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>>>> documents in the process.
>>>> 
>>>> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>>>> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew
>>>> could ever have fought for Hitler.
>>>> 
>>>> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
>>>> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
>>>> 
>>>> He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
>>>> about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>>>> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
>>>> 
>>>> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may be
>>>> used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers of
>>>> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>>>> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>>>> 
>>>> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>>>> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>>>> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>>>> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>>>> 
>>>> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>>>> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>>>> was a Jew.
>>>> 
>>>> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>>>> 
>>>> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>>>> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>>>> one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
>>>> 
>>>> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>>>> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>>>> 
>>>> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>>>> knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced to a
>>>> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>>>> 
>>>> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>>>> 
>>>> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>>>> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>>>> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>>>> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>>>> plotting against Hitler.
>>>> 
>>>> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>>>> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>>>> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>>>> to it that he was discharged from the army.
>>>> 
>>>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>>> wonder why?
>>>> 
>>>> ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>>>> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>>>> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>>>> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>>>
>>>
>>>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>>>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>>>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!



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>On Wed, 11 Nov 1998 15:24:40 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>>On Sun, 19 Jul 1998 22:06:50 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>>>On 1 May 1998 13:08:00 +0200, Irmin@nsm.htp.org wrote:
>
>>>>American Dissident Voices Broadcast of April 25, 1998
>>>>
>>>>Katyn
>>>>by Dr. William Pierce
>>>>
>>>>A background noise that seems never to go away is the constant 
>>>>whining and yammering of the Jews about how the world owes them a 
>>>>living because of their losses during the so-called "Holocaust." 
>>>>They do it, of course, because they make such a big profit on it. 
>>>>The latest flare-up of this Jewish play for a handout came more 
>>>>than a year ago when they began demanding that the Swiss pay them 
>>>>$7 billion, which "Holocaust" victims allegedly had stashed in 
>>>>numbered Swiss accounts before being hauled off to gas chambers 
>>>>during the Second World War.
>>>>
>>>>With a few "bought" Gentile politicians fronting for them, the 
>>>>foremost among these being New York's Senator Alphonse D'Amato, 
>>>>the Jews threatened Switzerland with a boycott by the U.S. 
>>>>government if their demands were not met. Instead of laughing in 
>>>>their faces, telling the Jews to go to hell, and gearing up for 
>>>>countermeasures against Israel and other Jewish interests if the 
>>>>Jews tried to proceed with a boycott, the Swiss politicians tried 
>>>>to placate the Jews by offering to buy themoff. The Jews took the 
>>>>Swiss response as a sign of weakness and escalated their demands.
>>>>
>>>>The average Swiss citizen seems to have a little more pride than
>>>>Switzerland's elected officials, however, and resentment against 
>>>>the Jews' extortion efforts is building in Switzerland now to the 
>>>>point that some of that country's richest Jews are wearing 
>>>>bulletproof vests whenever they must go out in public.
>>>>
>>>>In general, however, this "Holocaust"-based extortion racket 
>>>>works quite well for the Jews, and they have expanded their 
>>>>demands for World War Two reparations to include a number of 
>>>>other countries besides Switzerland. They are even whining that 
>>>>the Vatican owes them because Pope Pius XII didn't do enough to 
>>>>save them from the Germans during the war. The Jews' brazenness 
>>>>in this whole business is quite breathtaking.
>>>>
>>>>Their brazenness, of course, is justified, because by and large 
>>>>they have been getting away with it. And they have been getting 
>>>>away with it because with their media control they have been able 
>>>>to distort the general public's whole perception of what happened 
>>>>during the Second World War. They have been able to portray 
>>>>themselves as innocent victims and just about everyone else as 
>>>>persecutors and aggressors, even the people who were fighting on 
>>>>the Jewish side against the Germans during the war. For example, 
>>>>they have done quite a bit of whining that after the Red Army 
>>>>drove the Germans from Poland, the Poles took the opportunity to 
>>>>lynch hundreds of Jews in 1945 and 1946: Jews whom the Germans 
>>>>somehow had failed to get rid of during their wartime occupation
>>>>of Poland.
>>>>
>>>>Now, why would the Poles do something like that? Why would they 
>>>>lynch the poor Jews, who had been on their side during the war? 
>>>>If you learned about the war from watching Steven Spielberg 
>>>>propaganda films and other mass-media sources, you probably 
>>>>believe that it was because of religious anti-Semitism on the 
>>>>part of the Catholic Poles. Let me tell you the real reason why 
>>>>so many Poles hated Jews after the war. It's something the 
>>>>Jew-controlled media in America have tried hard to keep covered 
>>>>up. Let me tell you about what happened in the Katyn forest
>>>>in 1940.
>>>>
>>>>In September 1939 Poland was invaded from the west by Germany and 
>>>>from the east by the Soviet Union. The Germans wanted back the 
>>>>territory in western Poland, including the city of Danzig, which 
>>>>had been taken from them at the end of the First World War. The 
>>>>Soviets wanted eastern Poland. The Germans and the Soviets 
>>>>divided Poland between them, with the boundary running roughly 
>>>>along the River Bug.
>>>>
>>>>Britain and France, both under strong Jewish pressure, declared 
>>>>war on Germany in September 1939, ostensibly because of Germany's 
>>>>invasion of Poland. They did not declare war on the Soviet Union, 
>>>>which also had invaded Poland. In the United States and in 
>>>>western Europe, where the Jews held a deathgrip on the mass 
>>>>media, a great deal of anti-German propaganda was based on the 
>>>>German grab for Polish territory -- much of which, of course, 
>>>>actually was historically German territory -- and nothing was 
>>>>said of the Soviet occupation and annexation of eastern Poland.
>>>>
>>>>The reason for this anti-German and pro-Soviet bias by the Jewish 
>>>>media was that the Jews were riding high in the Soviet Union as 
>>>>commissars and communist party bosses under Stalin, while in 
>>>>Germany Hitler had undertaken a program since 1933 of freeing 
>>>>Germany from all Jewish influence. Jews had been weeded out of 
>>>>the media, the law, the schools, and other areas of economic and 
>>>>cultural life in Germany. Before Hitler became chancellor in 1933 
>>>>the Jews had done in Germany what they do in every country where 
>>>>they gain a foothold: they had monopolized large sections of the 
>>>>mass media and certain professions and were doing their best to 
>>>>distort German culture, German society, and the German economy
>>>>to suit themselves. Hitler put a stop to that, and two-thirds of 
>>>>the 1933 Jewish population of Germany had emigrated by the 
>>>>invasion of Poland in September 1939. So the Jews hated Germany 
>>>>and were determined to do whatever they could to destroy her.
>>>>
>>>>For his part, Hitler hoped to avoid war with Britain and France. 
>>>>He hoped that after his quick victory in western Poland he could 
>>>>make peace with Britain and France. He was determined, however, 
>>>>to stamp out communism wherever he encountered it. Not only did 
>>>>he hate communism on ideological grounds, but he had sworn to 
>>>>fight communism when the communists in Germany betrayed his 
>>>>country at the end of the First World War. Hitler also saw the 
>>>>Soviet Union as a threat to all of Europe, and he was determined 
>>>>to break the power of that country when he could, even though 
>>>>there was an uneasy non-aggression pact between Germany and the
>>>>Soviet Union in 1939, at the time of their partition of Poland.
>>>>
>>>>In the spring of 1941 massive troop movements and other 
>>>>developments inside the Soviet Union convinced Hitler that Stalin 
>>>>was preparing to invade the west with the Red Army, and so in 
>>>>June 1941 Hitler made a preemptive strike. German forces smashed 
>>>>through the Red Army and made rapid advances, first through 
>>>>Soviet-occupied eastern Poland and then through Ukraine and into 
>>>>Russia.
>>>>
>>>>A year and a half later, in February 1943, German forces near 
>>>>Smolensk, in western Russia, investigated reports they heard from 
>>>>Russian civilians to the effect that a large number of prisoners 
>>>>had been murdered by the Soviet secret police in the area nearly 
>>>>three years earlier. The German investigators were led by local 
>>>>Russians to a series of mounds in a wooded area known locally as 
>>>>Katyn Forest, about 10 miles west of Smolensk. The forest is 
>>>>named for a village, Katyn, which it surrounds. The forest had 
>>>>been privately owned prior to the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917, 
>>>>but after the communist takeover of Russia the area had been 
>>>>confiscated by the government and part of the forest had been
>>>>turned over to the NKVD, the Soviet equivalent of the American 
>>>>FBI.
>>>>
>>>>The Germans began digging in the mounds in the Katyn forest and 
>>>>made a horrible discovery. They found corpse after corpse, each 
>>>>with its hands bound behind its back and a bullet hole in the 
>>>>base of its skull. They continued their excavations for more than 
>>>>a month, and eventually uncovered more than 4,000 corpses. Other 
>>>>bodies may have remained buried in other mounds, but the Germans 
>>>>had no time to dig up the whole forest. Instead they called in 
>>>>the International Red Cross and representatives of various 
>>>>neutral countries to examine their findings. They also brought in 
>>>>groups of Allied prisoners of war, including Americans, from
>>>>prison camps in Germany to view the graves in the Katyn forest. 
>>>>They gave these international inspectors complete freedom to 
>>>>examine the exhumed bodies, permitted doctors among them to 
>>>>conduct autopsies, even allowed them to dig up other bodies from 
>>>>one of the mounds which had not been completely excavated. The 
>>>>Germans asked only that the inspectors report back truthfully to 
>>>>their own governments about their observations. And in fact, most 
>>>>of them did.
>>>>
>>>>What they reported was that the bodies were those of Polish 
>>>>military officers, along with a number of civilian cultural and 
>>>>business leaders and intellectuals -- scientists, writers, poets 
>>>>-- who had been in the portion of Poland occupied by the Soviet 
>>>>Union in September 1939. Altogether the Soviet secret police had 
>>>>rounded up some 15,000 Polish leaders in 1939 -- including nearly 
>>>>half of the entire Polish officer's corps, the half that had had 
>>>>the misfortune of being in eastern Poland at the time -- and put 
>>>>them in three concentration camps in Russia: at Starobelsk, 
>>>>Kozelsk, and Ostashkov. All of the bodies unearthed in the
>>>>Katyn forest were of Polish leaders who had been confined at one 
>>>>of these camps: Starobelsk.
>>>>
>>>>Rounding up a country's leaders and killing them was standard 
>>>>practice for the communists. The theory was that the leaders were 
>>>>bourgeois oppressors of the working class and deserved to die. As 
>>>>egalitarians the communists did not regard the Polish officers 
>>>>and intellectuals as inherently better or more valuable human 
>>>>material than the average Polish criminal or welfare bum; the 
>>>>officers had simply used their class advantage to gain a better 
>>>>life-style for themselves. Of course, no one really believed that 
>>>>theory except the criminals and welfare bums and other resentful 
>>>>losers and ne'er-do-wells who made up the natural communist 
>>>>constituency. As a practical matter, however, killing all the
>>>>leaders and potential leaders of a conquered people made them 
>>>>easier to govern. That's what the Marxists had done in Russia, 
>>>>Ukraine, and the Baltic countries.
>>>>
>>>>In the case of the Poles there was a bit of a diplomatic problem,
>>>>though. The Poles supported the war Britain and France had 
>>>>declared against Germany, purportedly on their behalf, because 
>>>>they viewed that as their one hope for getting back at least the 
>>>>western part of their country. They were not happy about the 
>>>>Russians taking the eastern part of Poland, but the Russians at 
>>>>least were fellow Slavs. The thing to do was get rid of the 
>>>>Germans first and then worry about the Russians. This Polish 
>>>>strategy suited Stalin fine. But it made it desirable for him to
>>>>avoid alienating the Poles any more than necessary. When Polish 
>>>>exiles asked about their imprisoned leaders in late 1939 and 
>>>>early 1940, the Soviet government promised that they would be 
>>>>released shortly. Meanwhile, the decision had been made to kill 
>>>>all of them. And so in April 1940 the Polish leaders were taken 
>>>>from the three camps where they had been imprisoned, trucked off 
>>>>to various liquidation sites, and murdered. The ones who had been 
>>>>imprisoned at Starobelsk all went to the NKVD area of the Katyn 
>>>>forest. After the war some of the NKVD executioners were 
>>>>interviewed in Israel and described how they had carried out the 
>>>>killings.
>>>>
>>>>The Poles were driven up to the burial pits in long NKVD prison 
>>>>trucks known as "black ravens." They were pulled from the trucks 
>>>>one at a time by NKVD guards. Each Polish prisoner had his hands 
>>>>bound behind his back and then was dragged to the edge of a pit. 
>>>>There he was held by two NKVD men while a third fired a pistol 
>>>>bullet into the back of his head. Some of the officers had had 
>>>>their coats pulled over their heads to keep them from seeing what 
>>>>was happening before they were shot. Some struggled and were 
>>>>bayonetted by NKVD guards before being shot and thrown into the
>>>>pit. When all of the officers from Starobelsk had been killed, 
>>>>some 4,400 of them, the Katyn forest burial pits were covered 
>>>>with dirt and pine trees were planted on them. The locations of 
>>>>the mass graves of the prisoners from the camps at Kozelsk and 
>>>>Ostashkov remain unknown, but none of the 15,000 Polish officers 
>>>>and intellectuals rounded up by the NKVD in September 1939 was 
>>>>seen alive after April 1940.
>>>>
>>>>The Red Cross representatives and the Allied prisoners the 
>>>>Germans brought in to examine the mass graves in the Katyn forest 
>>>>understood after their examination not only who had been killed; 
>>>>they also understood who had killed them. This was apparent not 
>>>>only from the medical estimates of the length of time the bodies 
>>>>had been buried, but also from documentary evidence on the 
>>>>bodies. Diaries, news clippings, letters, and other personal 
>>>>papers removed from the clothing of the victims all told the same 
>>>>story: the latest dates on any of these papers were from 
>>>>mid-April 1940. The Polish leaders had been killed in April 1940, 
>>>>when they were prisoners of the Soviet Union and when the Katyn
>>>>region was under Soviet control. And this is what they reported 
>>>>back to their governments.
>>>>
>>>>So what do you think happened? Were the British and American 
>>>>governments horrified to discover that their "gallant Soviet 
>>>>ally," as the Soviet Union was referred to by the mass media, was 
>>>>a mass murderer? Did the British government, which had gone to 
>>>>war against Germany under the pretext of defending Poland, decide 
>>>>that it had made a mistake? Did anyone condemn the Soviet Union 
>>>>for this act of genocide against the Poles?
>>>>
>>>>Of course not! The Allied governments ordered their people who 
>>>>had inspected the Katyn site to keep their mouths shut, and the 
>>>>Jewish media immediately began announcing that the Germans had 
>>>>done it. A mass murder of Polish officers and intellectuals by 
>>>>the Nazis had been discovered in the Katyn forest, the New York 
>>>>Times and the rest of the Jewish media shrieked. Poor Poles! 
>>>>Wicked Germans! The war must go on to free the poor Poles and 
>>>>punish the wicked Germans. And the war did go on, killing
>>>>millions of more Germans, British, Americans, and other 
>>>>Europeans. And the Germans were indeed punished. The Poles, of 
>>>>course, were not freed. Instead they were turned over to the 
>>>>Reds, who had butchered their leaders in the Katyn forest, and 
>>>>made to suffer under communist rule for half a century.
>>>>
>>>>The war went on after the German discovery of the mass graves in 
>>>>the Katyn forest, because its purpose from the beginning was not 
>>>>to free Poland but to destroy Germany, which had dared to free 
>>>>itself from the Jews. Roosevelt understood this. Churchill 
>>>>understood this. But the American and British people didn't 
>>>>understand it, of course, because they were lied to by the Jewish 
>>>>media and by their own governments, who in 1943 as in 1998 have 
>>>>done whatever has been politically expedient. And what has been 
>>>>politically expedient has been what the Jewish media bosses have 
>>>>decided.
>>>>
>>>>The lies about Katyn were maintained by the media for some years 
>>>>after the end of the war, because these lies meshed nicely with 
>>>>the "Holocaust" story which was making so much money for the 
>>>>Jews. Nowadays, of course, the truth about the Katyn murders is 
>>>>generally accepted by historians everywhere. You can go into 
>>>>almost any large library and read about it and even see the 
>>>>gruesome photographs that the Germans took of the Polish bodies 
>>>>they dug up. One of several authoritative books on the subject is 
>>>>J.K. Zawodny's Death in the Forest: the Story of the Katyn
>>>>Forest Massacre, published in 1962 by the University of Notre 
>>>>Dame Press. None of this is publicized a la Steven Spielberg, of 
>>>>course, for the illumination of American television audiences. It 
>>>>still might undermine the Jews' "Holocaust" racket.
>>>>
>>>>In 1945 and 1946, although the deceived citizens of the western 
>>>>world didn't know the truth about Katyn, Polish patriots did. The 
>>>>word had gotten back to the Polish prisoners in German camps from 
>>>>the Poles the Germans had taken to examine the graves. After the 
>>>>war, when these Polish prisoners were freed, the word spread to 
>>>>other Poles. They knew that it was the communists, not the Nazis, 
>>>>who had murdered their leaders, who had beheaded their nation. 
>>>>And they knew who was behind communism, from the Jew Karl Marx, 
>>>>who had started the whole business, up to the Jewish commissars 
>>>>who lorded it over them in Soviet-occupied Poland. They knew who 
>>>>had welcomed their Soviet conquerors and then collaborated with 
>>>>those conquerors. And so it is hardly surprising that in 1945 and 
>>>>1946 a few Polish patriots organized lynchings of Jews in Poland, 
>>>>before the Reds had a chance to clamp down on all of Poland and
>>>>suppress any further expressions of anti-communist or anti-Jewish
>>>>feeling.
>>>>
>>>>No, the Polish dislike of Jews isn't surprising. What is 
>>>>surprising is that so few patriots in America and Britain have 
>>>>expressed their outrage against the Jews, not only for what they 
>>>>did to the Poles during and after the war, but for what they have 
>>>>done to us: lying to us and using us to wage their wars for them. 
>>>>If patriots study the Katyn story and take its lesson to heart, 
>>>>they will understand why they cannot trust either the mass media 
>>>>or any government which dances to the tune played by the media. 
>>>>Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill were as much liars and 
>>>>traitors as Bill Clinton and Tony Blair.
>>>>
>>>>Anyway, you might remember Katyn the next time you hear the Jews 
>>>>or some of their bought politicians whining about how much gold 
>>>>was stolen from them by the Swiss or how badly the Poles and the 
>>>>Germans treated them during the Second World War.
>>>>
>>>>The text above is based on a broadcast of the American Dissident
>>>>Voices radio program sponsored by National Vanguard Books. To 
>>>>receive weekly ADV transcripts, mail: ADVlist@ListServe.com 
>>>>Write "subscribe" as the subject of your message. 
>>>>
>>>>++++++++++++++
>>>>
>>>>American Renaissance
>>>>http://www.amren.com
>>>>
>>>>Campaign for Radical Truth in History
>>>>http://www.hoffman-info.com
>>>>
>>>>Euro-American Students Union
>>>>http://esu.simplenet.com
>>>>
>>>>Katja Lane's Fourteen Word Press
>>>>http://www.14words.com
>>>>
>>>>National Alliance
>>>>http://www.natvan.com
>>>>
>>>>Stormfront
>>>>http://www.stormfront.org
>>>>
>>>>Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library
>>>>http://www.ddc.net/ygg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>



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On Mon, 09 Nov 1998 17:37:52 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Fri, 06 Nov 1998 15:04:09 GMT, golem88@gehenna.org wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 03 Nov 1998 20:13:38 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>>wrote:
>>
>>>>>On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:18:46 GMT, koyvay@nazikor.orgy wrote:
>>>>>>On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:52:01 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Notice that the gas station employee,according to an interview a week
>>>>>>>ago in local papers, McVay refuses to answer the questions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>>>>>>>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>>>>>>>because of the heat from the authorities!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, nationalist@juno.com (Michael )
>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>>>>>>>>>> will not answer the critical questions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Nothing new here.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>>>>>>>>>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>>>>>>>>>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>>>>>>>>>> it is NOT!!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Definitely not a charity.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won't Answer!!!!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>>>>>>>>>> answer??
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Is it really an international tax fraud?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> What have the I.R.S. to say??
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>>>>>>>>>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>>>>>>>>>> who can be reached at:
>>>>>>>>>>         http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>>>>>>>>>         webmaster@rc.gc.ca
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won't Answer is:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997  00:14:06 GMT
>>>>>>>>>> >From: Doctor detroit (Adjust@chiropractor.com)
>>>>>>>>>> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>>>>>>>>>> >Subject: to repeat the questions
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       1)      What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy's case it is the Order of British Columbia.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       2)      What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
>>>>>>>>>> >               letters?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>>>>>>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>>>>>>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>>>>>>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       3)      What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       4)      What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Probably written on McGoy's forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>>>>>>>Brith's butt.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>>>>>>>>>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       5)      What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       6)      Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>>>>>>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       7)      What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
>>>>>>>>>> >               solicit tax free contributions?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone "contributes" more than $10 that Bnai
>>>>>>>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>>>>>>>Canadian dollars. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
>>>>>>>>>> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
>>>>>>>>>> >OyVey???
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It's a reasonable assumption.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism dleonik@accesscomm.net
>>>>>>>>>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Check this out!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>>>>>>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken's "Big Lie"
>>>>>>>>letter just ask.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Nizkor Funding
>>>>>>>>>> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>>>>>>>>>> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>>>>>>>>>> >of B'nai Brith Canada ...with the cheque's memo including "Nizkor
>>>>>>>>>> >Project". ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>>>>>>>>>> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
>>>>>>>>>> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>>>>>>>>>> >Excite Search---Search: "nizkor"
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >"From B'nai Brith's 1996 'Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents':
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>  The League is working closely
>>>>>>>>>> >with Ken McVay's Nizkor Project (http://www.nizkor.org) through the
>>>>>>>>>> >"Holocaust and Hope" program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>>>>>>>>> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>>>>>>>>> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic.  The creation of a
>>>>>>>>>> >B'nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>>>>>>>>> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>>>>>>>>> >incidents directly to the National Office."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
>>>>>>>>>> >promote Jewish interests. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>That is putting it "lightly".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >If any of them are White Americans then they
>>>>>>>>>> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
>>>>>>>>>> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky's book "By Way of
>>>>>>>>Deception". Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>>>>>>>the Nizkooks are up to.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >The Hoax of the Century, even if real, has nothing to do with America,
>>>>>>>>>> >nor should we feel obligated to compensate Jews with 'loan' grants or
>>>>>>>>>> >even give them one second of our time watching their stupid hoax
>>>>>>>>>> >dramatizations.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Nizkor and Hollywood are both just two tentacles grasping and clawing
>>>>>>>>>> >their way into White America's good nature and generousity.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >NO MORE!  The Jews should pay back the $77 billion dollars plus
>>>>>>>>>> >interest immediately, and the Nizkor abomination should be shut down
>>>>>>>>>> >and the nonJewish elements tried for high treason.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >You too can be apart of this great reckoning.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>nationalist@juno.com
>>>>>>>>"http://www.natall.com"
>>>>>>>>"http://www.natvan.com"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>National Vanguard Books
>>>>>>>>P.O. Box 330
>>>>>>>>Hillsboro, WV   24946
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"No man has come to true greatness who has not felt
>>>>>>>>in some degree that his life belongs to his race."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                                ----Phillips Brooks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>+++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Get the text of American Dissident Voices broadcasts by e-mail! 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Subscribe to our mailing list by sending an e-mail message to:
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>>>>>>>>
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On Fri, 25 Dec 1998 21:44:34 GMT, kahaneken@nazikor.niz.org wrote:
>On Thu, 26 Nov 1998 14:58:53 GMT, KenSicko@zhid.oz.org wrote:
>>On 26 Nov 1998 02:04:42 GMT, marek13@aol.com (Marek13) wrote:

>>>The proper word is "Holocaust."  Can't you spell English?

>>The proper term is HOLOHOAX, in connection with the extortion of
>>billions of dollars from gullible governments, and institutions, such
>>as from Switzerland!!!


>>On Sat, 18 Jul 1998 11:31:10 -0600, "Bassam Kouatli"
>> wrote:

>>>Zionism and the Holocaust
>
>>>Haim Bresheeth, in RETURN, March 1989
>>>The first point to note regarding the appropriation of the history of the
>>>Holocaust by Zionist propaganda is that Zionism without anti-Semitism is
>>>impossible. Zionism agrees with the basic tenet of anti-Semitism, namely
>>>that Jews cannot live with non-Jews.
>>>The history and roots of the Holocaust go back a long way. While the
>>>industry of death and destruction did not operate before 1942, its roots
>>>were firmly placed in the 19th Century. Jewish aspirations for emancipation
>>>emerged out of the national struggles in Europe. When the hopes for
>>>liberation through bourgeois-democratic change were dashed, other
>>>alternatives for improving the lot of the Jews of Europe achieved
>>>prominence.
>>>
>>>The socialist Bund, a mass movement with enormous following, had to contend
>>>with opposition from a new and small, almost insignificant opponent, the
>>>political Zionists. In outline these two offered diametrically opposed
>>>options for Jews in Europe. While the Bund was suggesting joining forces
>>>with the rest of Europe's workers, the Zionists were proposing a new
>>>programme aimed at ridding Europe of its Jews by setting up some form of a
>>>Jewish state.
>>>
>>>Historically, nothing is inevitable, all depends on the balance of forces
>>>involved in the struggle. History can be seen as an option tree: every time
>>>a certain option is chosen, other routes become barred. Because of that
>>>choice, movement backwards to the point before that choice was mad is
>>>impossible. While Zionism as an option was taken by many young Jews, it
>>>remained a minority position until the first days of the 3rd Reich. The
>>>Zionist Federation of Germany (ZVfD), an organisation representing a tiny
>>>minority of German Jews, was selected by the Nazis as the body to represent
>>>the Jews of the Reich. Its was the only flag of an international
>>>organisation allowed to fly in Berlin, and this was the only international
>>>organisation allowed to operate during this period. From a marginal
>>>position, the leaders of the Zionist Federation were propelled to a
>>>prominence and centrality that surprised even them. All of a sudden they
>>>attained political power, power based not on representation, but from being
>>>selected as the choice of the Nazi regime for dealing with the 'Jewish
>>>problem'. Their position in negotiating with the Nazis agreements that
>>>affected the lives of many tens of thousands of the Jews in Germany
>>>transformed them from a utopian, marginal organisation in Germany (and some
>>>other countries in Europe) into a real option to be considered by German
>>>Jews.
>>>
>>>The best example of this was the 'Transfer Agreement' of 1934. Immediately
>>>after the Nazi takeover in 1933, Jews all over the world supported or were
>>>organising a world wide boycott of German goods. This campaign hurt the Nazi
>>>regime and the German authorities searched frantically for a way disabling
>>>the boycott. It was clear that if Jews and Jewish organisations were to pull
>>>out, the campaign would collapse.
>>>
>>>This problem was solved by the ZVfD. A letter sent to the Nazi party as
>>>early as 21.6.33, outlined the degree of agreement that existed between the
>>>two organisations on the questions of race, nation, and the nature of the
>>>'Jewish problem', and it offered to collaborate with the new regime:
>>>
>>>The realisation of Zionism could only be hurt by resentment of Jews abroad
>>>against the German development. Boycott propaganda - such as is currently
>>>being carried on against Germany in many ways - is in essence unZionist,
>>>because Zionism wants not to do battle but to convince and build...
>>>
>>>In their eagerness to gain credence and the backing of the new regime, the
>>>Zionist organisation managed to undermine the boycott. The main public act
>>>was the signature of the 'Transfer Agreement' with the Nazi authorities
>>>during the Zionist Congress of 1934. In essence, the agreement was designed
>>>to get Germany's Jews out of the country and into Mandate Palestine. It
>>>provided a possibility for Jews to take a sizeable part of their property
>>>out of the country, through a transfer of German goods to Palestine. This
>>>right was denied to Jews leaving for any other destination (emphasis - ED).
>>>The Zionist Organisation was the acting agent, through its financial
>>>organisations. This agreement operated on a number of fronts 'helping' Jews
>>>to leave the country, breaking the ring of the boycott, exporting German
>>>goods in large quantities to Palestine, and last but not least, enabling the
>>>regime to be seen as humane and reasonable even towards its avowed enemies,
>>>the Jews. After all, they argued, the Jews do not belong in Europe and now
>>>the Jews come and agree with them.
>>>
>>>After news of the agreement broke, the boycott was doomed. If the Zionist
>>>Organisation found it possible and necessary to deal with the Nazis, and
>>>import their goods, who could argue for a boycott? This was not the first
>>>time that the interests of both movements were presented to the German
>>>public as complementary. Baron Von Mildenstein, the first head of the Jewish
>>>Department of the SS, later followed by Eichmann, was invited to travel to
>>>Palestine. This he did in early 1933, in the company of a Zionist leader,
>>>Kurt Tuchler. Having spent six months in Palestine, he wrote a series of
>>>favourable articles in Der Sturmer describing the 'new Jew' of Zionism, a
>>>Jew Nazis could accept and understand.
>>>
>>>This little-known episode established quite clearly the relationship during
>>>the early days of Nazism, between the new regime and the ZVfD, a
>>>relationship that was echoed later in a number of key instances, even after
>>>the nature of the Final Solution became clear. In many cases this meant a
>>>silencing of reports about the horrors of the exterminations. A book
>>>concentrating on this aspect of the Zionist reaction to the Holocaust is
>>>Post-Ugandan Zionism in the Crucible of the Holocaust, by S.B. Beth-Zvi.
>>>
>>>In the case of the Kastner episode, around which Jim Allen's play PERDITION
>>>is based, even the normal excuse of lack of knowledge of the real nature of
>>>events does not exist. It occurred near the end of the war. The USSR had
>>>advanced almost up to Germany. Italy and the African bases had been lost.
>>>The Nazis were on the run, with a number of key countries, such as Rumania,
>>>leaving the Axis. A second front was a matter of months away, as the western
>>>Allies prepared their forces. In the midst of all this we find Eichmann, the
>>>master bureaucrat of industrial murder, setting up is HQ in occupied
>>>Budapest, after the German takeover of the country in April 1944. His first
>>>act was to have a conference with the Jewish leadership, and to appoint
>>>Zionist Federation members, headed by Kastner, as the agent and clearing
>>>house for all Jews in their relationship with the SS and Nazi authorities.
>>>Why they did this is not difficult to see. As opposed to Poland, where its
>>>three and half million Jews lived in ghettoes and were visible different
>>>from the rest of the Polish population, the Hungarian Jews were in
>>>integrated part of the community. The middle class was mainly Jewish, the
>>>Jews were mainly middle class. They enjoyed freedom of travel, served in the
>>>Hungarian (fascist) army in frontline units, as officers and soldiers, their
>>>names were Hungarian - how was Eichmann to find them if they were to be
>>>exterminated ? The task was not easy, there were a million Jews in Hungary,
>>>most of them resident, the rest being refugees from other countries. Many
>>>had heard about the fate of Jews elsewhere, and were unlikely to believe any
>>>statements by Nazi officials.
>>>
>>>Like elsewhere, the only people who had the information and the ear of the
>>>frightened Jewish population were the Judenrat. In this case the Judenrat
>>>comprised mainly the Zionist Federation members. Without their help the SS,
>>>with 19 officers and less than 90 men, plus a few hundred Hungarian police,
>>>could not have collected and controlled a million Jews, when they did not
>>>even know their whereabouts. Kastner and the others were left under no
>>>illusions. Eichmann told Joel Brand, one of the members of Kastner's
>>>committee, that he intended to send all Hungary's Jews to Auschwitz, before
>>>he even started the expulsions! He told them clearly that all these Jews
>>>will die, 12,000 a day, unless certain conditions were met.
>>>
>>>The Committee faced a simple choice - to tell the Jews of Hungary about
>>>their fate, (with neutral Rumania, where many could escape, being in most
>>>cases a few hours away) or to collaborate with the Nazis by assisting in the
>>>concentration process. What would not have been believed when coming from
>>>the SS, sounded quite plausible when coming from the mouths of the Zionist
>>>leadership. Thus it is, that most of the Hungarian Jews went quietly to
>>>their death, assured by their leadership that they were sent to work camps.
>>>
>>>To be sure, there are thirty pieces of silver in this narrative of
>>>destruction: the trains of 'prominents' which Eichmann promised to Kastner -
>>>a promise he kept to the last detail. For Eichmann it was a bargain:
>>>allowing 1,680 Jews to survive, as the price paid for the silent
>>>collaboration over the death of almost a million Jews.
>>>
>>>There was no way in which the Jews of Hungary could even be located, not to
>>>say murdered, without the full collaboration of Kastner and his few friends.
>>>No doubt the SS would hunt a few Jews here and there, but the scale of the
>>>operation would have been minuscule compared to the half million who died in
>>>Auschwitz.
>>>
>>>It is important to realise that Kastner was not an aberration, like say
>>>Rumkovky in Lodz. Kastner acted as a result of his strongly held Zionist
>>>convictions. His actions were a logical outcome of earlier positions. This
>>>is instanced when he exposed to the Gestapo the existence of a British cell
>>>of saboteurs, Palgi and Senesh, and persuaded them to give themselves up, so
>>>as not to disrupt his operations. At no point during his trial or elsewhere,
>>>did Kastner deny that he knew exactly what was to happen to those Jews.
>>>
>>>To conclude, the role played by Zionists in this period, was connected to
>>>another role they could, and should have played, that of alarming the whole
>>>world to what was happening in Europe. They had the information, but
>>>politically it was contrary to their priorities. The priorities were, and
>>>still are, quite simple: All that furthers the Zionist enterprise in
>>>Palestine is followed, whatever the price. The lives of individuals, Jews
>>>and non-Jews, are secondary. If this process requires dealing with fascists,
>>>Nazis and other assorted dictatorial regimes across the world, so be it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>You'll find more at: http://www.alquds.org/palestine/
>>>
>>>
>>>



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On Wed, 19 Aug 1998 18:01:53 -0400, Basil Keilani
 wrote:


>	Often, when one deals with the right Israelis and Jews, rather
>than admit injustices, they engage in insults and try to intimidate the
>other side.  They believe they can intimidate the other side, by claiming
>they are anti-Semitic.  However, it does not work, the Berlin wall of
>Israeli bigotry will fall along with their allies.  We say no to Zionist
>racism vis-a-vis Gentiles and Secular Jews.  Actually, Zionism has been
>one of the greatest enemies towards the name of Jews and Judaism.
>So it is anti-Semitic, for a kind-hearted, honest Jew who believes
>in the One God.--------Basil
>
>Article by Dr Alfred Lilienthal
>
>	"Why did the Jews, through, their own leaders, cooperate with the
>Nazis in their own destruction?"; Why did the Jews abandon their
>apparently successful economic boycott of pre-WWII Germany?"; and, "Why
>did millions of Jews go to their deaths like lambs to the slaughter?"
>	These were just some of the major queries raised by Jewish
>intellectuals and historians like Ben Hecht and, especially, Hannah
>Arendt.  Arendt called the Zionist complicity in the tragedy one of the
>"darkest pages" in the history of their race.  Many found the questions
>raised by Arendt and Hecht too painful to face directly.
>	Pius XII (POPE), now dead, became a convenient target for revenge
>and distraction from the issue of Zionist complicity raised by the
>dissidents.  Both Zionists and non-Jews began accusing Pius XII of
>responsibility for the death of the Jews by his called "silence" regarding
>mass exterminations.
>	The Christian-bashers regularly portrayed Pius XII, in plays,
>articles, books, movies and television documentaries, as a tool of the
>capitalists, an uncaring bureaucrat, and a heartless cleric.  Nothing
>could have been further from the truth, but these slanders continue until
>the present day.
>
>Dr. Alfred Lilienthal, "The Truth at last about Pope Pius and the 
>Holocaust", Washington Report, May/June 1998, p.30
>
>
>



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In Canada a JEW Rabbi now wants to perform ILLEGAL marriages of
faggots and lezzies. Story follows:
On Sat, 26 Dec 1998 19:04:05 GMT, kenmaggot@nazikor.niz.org wrote:

>In a move sure to anger orthodox Jews, as well as normal humans, newspapers
>across Canada report that a Winnipeg synagogue will perform marriages
>of same sex persons.

>This, even though there is no law in Canada permitting this!!!

>Rabbi Michael  Levenson of Temple Shalom admits that his actions are
>illegal. 


If his actions are illegal, why don't the authorities send him to
jail??


>He is quoted as saying that his ceremonies will be recognised
>from a religious point of view, not a political one. Levenson alleges
>that members of his temple supposedly supported his action.  However,
>even normal Jews are criticising this action. It seems that what this
>Jew is doing, is NOT acceptable, according to the Torah.


No wonder people think of the jews as mainly sodomites.




On Sun, 27 Dec 1998 05:45:47 +0000, Claymore
 wrote:

>All LEZZAS are Hate filled Bigoted Scum, just like faggots and should be
>GASSED !.

>In article <75ultu$2r0@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>, Israel Schiff
> writes
>>On Mon, 23 Dec 1996, Elazar wrote: "For my Jewish brethren searching for a
>>Biblical basis for sanctioning homosexuality, I provide you with words from
>>Rabbis Marc Angel, Hillel Goldberg and Pinchas Stopler in their joint
>>article published in the Winter, 1992-93 edition of Jewish Action Magazine;"
>>Well, here's another viewpoint: Bible Review, December 1993, p. 11 DOES THE
>>BIBLE PROHIBIT HOMOSEXUALITY? by Rabbi Jacob Milgrom: "The Biblical
>>prohibition is addressed only to Israel. It is incorrect to apply it on a
>>universal scale.
>>This past Yom Kippur, September 25, 1993, my synagogue invited me to explain
>>the afternoon scriptural reading, the list of forbidden sexual liaisons in
>>Leviticus 18. I chose to focus on what is today one of the most frequently
>>quoted passages in the entire Bible, "Do not lie with a male as one lies
>>with a woman, it is an abomination" (Leviticus 18:22).
>>
>>What I said may be both good news and bad news to my Christian friends,
>>depending on their position on gay and lesbian rights. This Biblical
>>prohibition is addressed only to the Jews. Non-Jews are affected only if
>>they reside in the Holy Land, but not elsewhere (see the closing exhortation
>>in Leviticus 18, verses 24-30). Thus, it is incorrect to apply this
>>prohibition on a universal scale.
>>
>>But I spoke to my fellow Jews, who are required to observe this prohibition.
>>What is the rationale for this prohibition? In a previous column, I noted
>>that the Bible's impurity rules are part of a symbol system representing the
>>forces of life and death. Israel is required to avoid these impurities and
>>adhere to the laws commanded by God, who promotes the forces of life. Thus
>>in the same chapter we read, "You shall heed my statutes and my rules, by
>>doing them one shall live" (Leviticus 18:5). A man who discharges semen,
>>whether intentionally or otherwise, is declared impure and must purify
>>himself by bathing (a sort of re-baptism) before he is permitted to enter
>>the Temple or touch sacred (sacrificial) food (Leviticus 15:16-18). Why?
>>Because semen stands for life, and the loss of semen symbolizes the loss of
>>life.
>>
>>Note also that in the entire list of forbidden sexual unions, THERE IS NO
>>PROHIBITION AGAINST LESBIANISM. Can it be that lesbianism did not exist in
>>ancient times or that Scripture was unaware of its existence? Lesbians
>>existed and flourished, as attested in an old (pre-Israelite)
>>
>>Babylonian text and in the work of the lesbian poet Sappho (born c. 612
>>B.C.E., during the time of the First Temple), who came from the island of
>>Lesbos (hence lesbianism). But there is a fundamental difference between the
>>homosexual acts of men and women. IN LESBIANISM THERE IS NO SPILLING OF
>>SEED. Thus life is not symbolically lost, and therefore lesbianism is not
>>prohibited in the Bible.
>>
>>My argument ostensibly can be countered by a more comprehensive biblical
>>injunction. The very first commandment, given to Adam and repeated to Noah,
>>is "Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth" (Genesis 1:28 and Genesis
>>9:1,7). The descendants of Noah--the entire human race--are duty-bound to
>>fulfill this commandment. But the truth is that we have not only filled the
>>earth, we have over-filled it. This does not mean, however, that the
>>commandment should be thought of as no longer in force--especially among
>>Jews, who have lost a third of their members in our lifetime. I recall an
>>incident during a premarital interview from the early years of my rabbinate.
>>The starry-eyed bride declared her noble intention to have twelve children
>>to compensate for the tragic loss of six million killed in the Holocaust. I
>>gasped, "Must you do it all by yourself?"
>>
>>I have since come to regret my flippant reply. This couple regarded their
>>forthcoming marriage as a sacrament not just between themselves, but with
>>the >Jewish people. The problem has worsened for American Jews. Because
>>intermarriage is rife and the Jewish birth rate is low, American Jewry, once
>>at zero population growth, has dipped into the minus column. Were it not for
>>a steady stream of converts, the extinction of American Jewry would be even
>>more imminent. For us the divine command, "Be fruitful and multiply" is
>>truly in force.
>>
>>To Jewish homosexuals I offer an unoriginal solution. As compensation for
>>your loss of seed, adopt children. Although adoption was practiced in the
>>ancient world (as attested in Babylonian law), there is no Biblical
>>procedure or institution of adoption. As a result the institution of
>>adoption is absent from rabbinic jurisprudence. Yet there are isolated cases
>>of a kind of pseudo-adoption in the Bible. For example, Abraham, long
>>childless, complains to God that Eliezer of Damascus, his steward, will
>>inherit him (Genesis 15:2). And barren Rachel beseeches her husband Jacob,
>>"Here is my maid Bilhah--go into her that she may bear on my knees and that
>>through her I too may have children" (Genesis 30:3). Adoption is certainly a
>>possibility today.
>>
>>Lesbian couples have an additional advantage. Not only do they not violate
>>biblical law, but through artificial insemination each can become the
>>natural mother of her children.
>>
>>Thus from the Bible we can infer the following: Lesbians, presumably half of
>>the world's homosexual population, are not mentioned. More than ninety-nine
>>percent of the gays, namely non-Jews, are not addressed. This leaves the
>>small number of male Jewish gays subject to this >prohibition. If they are
>>biologically or psychologically incapable of procreation, adoption provides
>>a solution. I hope the Eternal, in love and compassion, will then reckon
>>their spilled seed as producing fruit. Jacob Milgrom." (Bible Review, a
>>publication of the Biblical Archeology Society 3000 Connecticut Avenue NW,
>>Suite 300, Washington DC 20008, 202 387 8888




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Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the 
more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions 
"smells" of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted "on behalf 
of all fellow  taxpayers,except the favoured few."

Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
the 
Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the 
more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions 
"smells" of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted "on behalf 
of all fellow  taxpayers,except the favoured few."


On 12 Apr 1998 22:36:43 -0700, kmcvay@nanaimo.island.net (Ken McVay)
wrote:
>In article   wrote:

>>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!


Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in

Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
BRONFMAN JEWS!!!
 
In fact Revenue Canada officials had decided 12 December 1991 that the

Bronfmans were supposed to pay their taxes on this money!!!

George Harris, according to CP, is claiming that the Auditor General
of Canada  in May 1996, exposed the fact that the JEW Bronfmans did
not pay their taxes on the 2.2 Billion, thereby cheating the tax
department out of " hundreds of millions of dollars"!!!

Harris is fighting for the rights of all non-JEW taxpayers on this
issue.

He is quoted as saying, according to CP:"He will be helping to sustain
public confidence in our income tax system, as well as the
administration of justice generally."




Could it be that the goy-boy Oyvay finally got kicked out of NIZKOR, 
since the Bnai Brith could no longer stand the heat of the
investigations for tax fraud?

Did the IRS and Revenue Canada taxation finally get fed up with the
multi-million dollar 
FRAUD by OyVay??

Is that why the filthy pervert OyVay is now in hiding back in
Nanaimo???

Is OyVay back to being a "gas station attendant" for his living, or is
it again on welfare??



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On Sun, 03 Jan 1999 16:56:11 GMT, chiffre@chambre.com wrote:

>Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
>the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the 
>more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

>Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions 
>"smells" of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

>Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted "on behalf 
>of all fellow  taxpayers,except the favoured few."

>Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
>the  Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the 
>more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

>Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions 
>"smells" of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

>Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted "on behalf 
>of all fellow  taxpayers,except the favoured few."


>On 12 Apr 1998 22:36:43 -0700, kmcvay@nanaimo.island.net (Ken McVay)
>wrote:
>>In article   wrote:

>>>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>>>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>>>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!


>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!

>In fact Revenue Canada officials had decided 12 December 1991 that the
>Bronfmans were supposed to pay their taxes on this money!!!

>George Harris, according to CP, is claiming that the Auditor General
>of Canada  in May 1996, exposed the fact that the JEW Bronfmans did
>not pay their taxes on the 2.2 Billion, thereby cheating the tax
>department out of " hundreds of millions of dollars"!!!

>Harris is fighting for the rights of all non-JEW taxpayers on this
>issue.

>He is quoted as saying, according to CP:"He will be helping to sustain
>public confidence in our income tax system, as well as the
>administration of justice generally."


>Could it be that the goy-boy Oyvay finally got kicked out of NIZKOR, 
>since the Bnai Brith could no longer stand the heat of the
>investigations for tax fraud?

>Did the IRS and Revenue Canada taxation finally get fed up with the
>multi-million dollar  FRAUD by OyVay??

>Is that why the filthy pervert OyVay is now in hiding back in
>Nanaimo???

>Is OyVay back to being a "gas station attendant" for his living, or is
>it again on welfare??


Guess even the shabbas-goy OyVay couldn't stop the Federal Court!!!


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Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the
more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions "smells"
of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted "on behalf of all
fellow  taxpayers,except the favoured few."


On 12 Apr 1998 22:36:43 -0700, kmcvay@nanaimo.island.net (Ken McVay)
wrote:

>>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!


Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
BRONFMAN JEWS!!!
 
In fact Revenue Canada officials had decided 12 december 1991 that the
Bronfmans were supposed to pay their taxes on this money!!!

George Harris, according to CP, is claiming that the Auditor General
of Canada  in May 1996, exposed the fact that the JEW Bronfmans did
not pay their taxes on the 2.2 Billion, thereby cheating the tax
department out of " hundreds of millions of dollars"!!!

Harris is fighting for the rights of all  non-JEW taxpayers on this
issue.

He is quoted as saying, according to CP:"He will be helping to sustain
public confidence in our income tax system, as well as the
administration of justice generally."


Could it be that the goy-boy Oyvay finally got kicked out of NIZKOR,
since the Bnai Brith could no longer stand the heat of the
investigations for tax fraud?/

Did the IRS and Revenue Canada taxation finally get fed up with the
multi-million dollar FRAUD by OyVay??

Is that why the filthy pervert OyVay is now in hiding back in
Nanaimo???

Is OyVay back to being a "gas station attendant" for his living, or is
it again on welfare???


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On 1 Jan 1999 18:34:52 GMT, panie  kmcvay  puta wanted to tell the
truth for a change, instead of what his zhid masters dictated;

>MIEDZYNARODOWY KOMITET CZERWONEGO KRZYZA  (ICRC)
>
>{…}
>Genewa, 10 maja 1979 roku
>
>
>Nie mozemy niestety dostarczyc zadanych liczb, poniewaz ICRC nigdy nie
>probowal dokonywac statystyk w sprawie ofiar wojny  , ani tez nie nigdy
>nie poswiadczal dokladnosci statystyk przedstawianych przez osoby
>trzecie. W rzecywistosci podstawowym celem ICRC jest niesienie pomocy
>ofiarom konfliktow zbrojnych , a nie wystepowanie w charakterze komisji
>informacyjnej lub tez urzedu statystycznego.
>Jesli chodzi o liczbe 300,000 ofier , wymieniona na stronie 28
>przyslanego przez Pana dokumentu, to w dniu 19 stycznia 1955 roku gazeta
>“Die Tat” opublikowala artykul (ktorego fotokopie zalaczamy), w ktorym
>przytacza liczbe ofiar II Wojny Swiatowej , zawierajaca te 300,000.
>Jak Pan zobaczy po przeczytaniu tego artykulu, po pierwsze liczba
>300,000 nie byla podana przez ICRC , po drugie , nawiazuje ona tylko do
>nienieckich ofier (Zydow I nie-Zydow) obozow koncentracyjnych. Zatem
>autorzy broszury podwojnie zafalszowali swoje informacje, raz przez
>stwierdzenie,ze liczba ta nawiazuje do wszystkich zydowskich ofier
>deportacji, drugi raz przez powolanie sie na ICRC jako na zrodlo
>informacji.
>
>{…}
>
>
>Z powazaniem,
>
>
>R. Gaillard-Moret
>
>Naczelnik …

>   ------------------. UseNet alt.revisionism, Subject: "KOSHER TAX 
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>
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>      CONVICTED OF KIDDIE PORN IN HALIFAX!!!!," January 7, 1997.
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>
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>
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>      CRIMINAL!!!," January 8, 1997
>      Message-Id: Pine.SUN.3.95.970108141001.16138B-100000@galileo.cris.com

On Thu, 17 Dec 1998 21:57:40 GMT, cohend@kammer.com wrote:
>On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:02:36 GMT, kenoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>>>On Mon, 29 Sep 1997 01:42:58 GMT, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>
>>>>And don't forget the murders of the British, such as in the King david
>>>>Hotel, by the IRGUN and Stern Gang, involving this great zionist
>>>>gangster!!!
>
>>>>On Sun, 28 Sep 1997 18:30:30 -0700, Clancy
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Memorandum on Yitzhak Rabin's participation in war crimes
>>>>>
>>>>>By Elias Davidsson, Reykjav_k, Iceland October 1992. Revisions in December
>>>>>1992 and December 1994
>>>>>
>>>>>A number of Member States of the United Nations have declared their
>>>>>interest and support for the establishment of an International Criminal
>>>>>Court under United Nations auspices to deal with international crimes such
>>>>>as war crimes and crimes against humanity. A Special Court to deal with War
>>>>>Crimes committed in ex-Yugoslavia has been established under UN auspices
>>>>>and has began functioning. There have also been calls by non-governmental
>>>>>organisations and eminent citizens for the trial of individual leaders,
>>>>>such as Saddam Hussein, Pol Pot, George Bush and John Major, for their
>>>>>alleged participation in war crimes. More and more people recognize the
>>>>>importance of holding individual public leaders responsible for their deeds
>>>>>and failings, not only politically and morally, but also legally.
>>>>>International law provides some opportunities in this direction, which have
>>>>>not been used yet.
>>>>>
>>>>>Such opportunity presents itself in the Geneva Conventions of 12 August
>>>>>1949. By signing these Conventions, each Signatory State undertook "to
>>>>>search for persons alleged to have committed, or to have ordered to be
>>>>>committed, [such] grave breaches, and [shall] bring such persons,
>>>>>regardless of their nationality, before its own courts." A Signatory may
>>>>>also avail itself of the possibility, under certain conditions, of handing
>>>>>such persons to another Signatory State for trial.
>>>>>
>>>>>Since the Nurnberg and Tokyo trials in which the leading World War II
>>>>>criminals were tried, no judicial body of any country has been willing to
>>>>>initiate legal measures for the apprehension and trial of the world's
>>>>>leading war criminals, in spite of States' legal obligations to do so.
>>>>>States, including those claiming to support human rights, shield leading
>>>>>war criminals from prosecution or provide them with shelter. Individuals
>>>>>such as Pol Pot of Kampuchea, Saddam Hussein of Iraq, Assad of Syria,
>>>>>Pinochet of Chile and Mobutu of Zaire, are often, and justifiably, labelled
>>>>>as enemies of Mankind. But none of them has ever been formally charged by
>>>>>any Signatory of the Geneva Conventions, in spite of ample evidence of
>>>>>their responsibility for international crimes. Other gross human right
>>>>>violators (such as the leaders of Haiti) have been offered shelter in third
>>>>>countries where they escape prosecution.
>>>>>
>>>>>The Israeli-Arab conflict, or more correctly the Zionist- Palestinian
>>>>>conflict, has lasted for almost a century. In the course of this conflict,
>>>>>many acts of violence were committed by both sides. But not every act of
>>>>>violence committed in an international conflict is defined in international
>>>>>law as a war crime or a crime against humanity. The difference lies both in
>>>>>the nature of the crime, its extent, whether it is systematic or sporadic
>>>>>and whether violence was committed against non-combatants, to name a few
>>>>>criteria. Only the most odious crimes are considered as offences against
>>>>>Mankind, which all states, individually and collectively, are required to
>>>>>repress. The Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 and their Additional
>>>>>Protocols of 1977, provide a list of such crimes.
>>>>>
>>>>>The present memorandum provides evidence about the responsibility of Mr.
>>>>>Yitzhak Rabin, Israeli national and current Prime Minister of the State of
>>>>>Israel, for acts committed under his orders and which are defined in the
>>>>>Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 and their Additional Protocol I of
>>>>>1977, as 'grave breaches', the technical term for war crimes. The
>>>>>memorandum includes also a preliminary legal discussion about the acts in
>>>>>question, the responsibility of Mr. Rabin and the duties of states to
>>>>>prosecute.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Mr. Rabin Was Responsible for Ethnical Cleaning / Deportation in 1948
>>>>>
>>>>>On 12 July 1948, Lt. Colonel Yitzhak Rabin, Chief of Operations Operation
>>>>>Dani, issued the following order to Yiftah Brigade headquarters:
>>>>>
>>>>>"1. The inhabitants of Lydda must be expelled quickly without attention to
>>>>>age. They should be directed towards Beit Nabala. Yiftah [Brigade
>>>>>headquarters] must determine the method and inform [Operation] Dani HQ and
>>>>>8th Brigade HQ. 2. Implement immediately." The order was signed "Yitzhak
>>>>>R[abin]."
>>>>>
>>>>>The implementation of this order is described in the authoritative book
>>>>>"The birth of the Palestinian refugee problem, 1947-1949" by Israeli
>>>>>historian Benny Morris (Cambridge University Press, 1987) [pages 207-210]
>>>>>and more in detail in Michael Palumbo's book "The Palestinian catastrophe:
>>>>>The 1948 expulsion of a people from their homeland", Quartet Books,
>>>>>London/New York, 1987 [Chapter VIII: The Lydda Death March].
>>>>>
>>>>>These publications offer further evidence about Mr. Rabin's implication in
>>>>>this event. The authors estimate that approx. 50.000 civilians (Arabs) were
>>>>>expelled from Lydda and Ramleh under Mr. Rabin's orders. As a prelude to
>>>>>the flight hundreds of civilians were killed by Israeli soldiers. Many more
>>>>>died in the ensuing `march to exile'. Although Zionist leaders claimed that
>>>>>the expulsions were based on military necessity, the fact that the refugees
>>>>>were not allowed to return and declarations by Zionist leaders about the
>>>>>necessity to reduce the number of Arabs in the incumbent Jewish state lend
>>>>>credence to the claim (by Palestinians) that the expulsions were part of a
>>>>>planned 'transfer' policy by the Zionist authorities, in other words a
>>>>>master plan of "ethnical cleansing".
>>>>>
>>>>>The deportation of civilians constitutes a Crime against Humanity under
>>>>>Article 6(c) of the Nnrnberg Charter and a grave breach of the Fourth
>>>>>Geneva Convention of 12 August 1949, as specified in Article 147 thereof.
>>>>>The unjustifiable delay in the repatriation of the inhabitants of Lydda and
>>>>>Ramleh (who have never been allowed to return) constitutes a grave breach
>>>>>of the First Additional Protocol to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August
>>>>>1949 (article 85.4).
>>>>>
>>>>>Article 85.5 of the First Additional Protocol to the Geneva Conventions of
>>>>>12 August 1949 specifically refers to grave breaches as 'war crimes'.
>>>>>
>>>>>2. Mr Rabin Ordered in 1967 the Destruction of 3 Villages and the Expulsion
>>>>>                            of their Inhabitants
>>>>>
>>>>>In the 1967 war between Israel and Jordan, Yitzhak Rabin was Chief of Staff
>>>>>of the Israeli Defence Forces. In this short war some 5.000 inhabitants
>>>>>from three villages in the Latrun triangle between Tel Aviv and Jerusalem
>>>>>(Emwas, Beit Nuba and Yalou) were expelled by the Israeli army and their
>>>>>villages totally destroyed. An Israeli soldier, Amos Kenan, who took part
>>>>>in the expulsions, described these acts in a report sent to all Israeli
>>>>>Members of Parliament. According to press reports, including one in
>>>>>Jerusalem Post of 24 October 1991, Mr. Yitzhak Rabin admitted in Canadian
>>>>>TV having given the order to destroy the villages. The inhabitants of these
>>>>>villages were never allowed to return and rebuilt their village nor bury
>>>>>their dead in the lands of their former village.
>>>>>
>>>>>The deportation of civilians constitutes a Crime against Humanity under
>>>>>Article 6(c) of the Nnrnberg Charter and a grave breach of the Fourth
>>>>>Geneva Convention of 12 August 1949, as specified in Article 147 thereof.
>>>>>The unjustifiable delay in the repatriation of the inhabitants of the above
>>>>>three villages constitutes a grave breach of the First Additional Protocol
>>>>>to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 (article 85.4).
>>>>>
>>>>>In addition, the Geneva Conventions as well as their additional protocols
>>>>>prohibit "at any time and in any place whatsoever....collective
>>>>>punishments". It seems that the destruction of these villages - every
>>>>>single house in them - constitutes 'collective punishment' within the
>>>>>meaning of the Conventions.
>>>>>
>>>>>    3. Mr Rabin Urged Israeli Soldiers to Break the Bones of Palestinian
>>>>>                                 Youngsters
>>>>>
>>>>>In mid-January 1988, Mr. Rabin, then Israeli Defense Minister, announced a
>>>>>policy to restore order in the Occupied Territories by "force, might,
>>>>>beatings". More specifically, he urged Israeli soldiers to summarily (and
>>>>>viciously) beat Palestinian demonstrators. Israeli soldiers implemented
>>>>>this policy, breaking the hands or arms of many demonstrators with
>>>>>methodically directed blows, using sticks and stones. In some cases,
>>>>>Palestinian youngsters were rounded up from their homes, brought to remote
>>>>>areas, and there, while a couple of soldiers held them, had their bones
>>>>>smashed. The international outrage called forth by a 40- minute long
>>>>>TV-film secretly shot, and showing how Israeli soldiers smash the bones of
>>>>>a Palestinian youth, compelled the Israeli government to halt these
>>>>>extra-judicial and inhuman punishments.
>>>>>
>>>>>Israeli soldiers, charged for using excessive force and brought to trial in
>>>>>Israel, have testified that the orders for these practices originated from
>>>>>above, including from Yitzhak Rabin. Although the Israeli press published
>>>>>numerous testimonies, which all mention Mr. Rabin as the instigator of
>>>>>these practices (i.e. Ha'aretz, 9. April, 1. July, 3. July 1990, Jerusalem
>>>>>Post of 25 July and 30 June 1992), Mr. Rabin was never asked to testify in
>>>>>court. No inquiry was initiated regarding Mr. Rabin's role in these
>>>>>policies.
>>>>>
>>>>>Article 147 of the Fourth Geneva Convention of 12 August 1949, specifies as
>>>>>one of the grave breaches (war crimes) "inhuman treatment....wilfully
>>>>>causing great suffering or serious injury to body or health". Protocol I
>>>>>Additional to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 (1977), lists among
>>>>>the acts which remain "prohibited at any time and in any place whatsoever,
>>>>>whether committed by civilian or by military agents:": "Violence to
>>>>>the....physical or mental well-being of persons, in particular....(iii)
>>>>>corporal punishment."
>>>>>
>>>>>    4. Yitzhak Rabin Ordered in 1993 Indiscriminate Attacks of Civilian
>>>>>                       Population Centers in Lebanon
>>>>>
>>>>>The Sunday Times, 1 August 1993, reported under the heading: Rabin's war:
>>>>>"Late yesterday, he [Rabin] called off his personal seven-day war in
>>>>>southern Lebanon. (...) Rabin's War - Operation Accountability - has killed
>>>>>at least 130 and sent hundreds of thousands of Lebanese fleeing towards
>>>>>Beirut. (...) Southern Lebanon had become a land without people.(...) About
>>>>>80 villages have been hit.". According to the London-based Middle East
>>>>>International (MEI) of 6 August 1993, the "majority of casualties were
>>>>>civilians. At least 55 towns and villages were very heavily damaged,
>>>>>including Nabatiya, a major regional center with a normal population of
>>>>>around 100,000."
>>>>>
>>>>>According to the editorial of the same issue of MEI, this seven-day
>>>>>bombardment of southern Lebanon was "expressly designed (as Mr. Rabin
>>>>>himself announced) to render South Lebanon 'uninhabitable' and to create a
>>>>>tidal wave of refugees so huge that it would destabilise the government in
>>>>>Beirut and bend it to Israel's will (...)"
>>>>>
>>>>>According to Lebanese government estimates (reported in MEI), "some 400,000
>>>>>people - mainly Shi'ite Muslims - fled their homes in panic, with about
>>>>>half of them converging on Beirut and its southern suburbs. While some had
>>>>>families and friends to go to, others arrived with only the clothes they
>>>>>stood in, and had no money to fend for themselves".
>>>>>
>>>>>Both the Hague Conventions of 1907 and the Additional Protocol I to the
>>>>>Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 contain specific provisions that
>>>>>prohibit attacks on civilian populations. Thus Additional Protocol I
>>>>>specifies as a 'grave breach' (war crime) "making the civilian population
>>>>>or individual civilians the object of attack" as well as "launching an
>>>>>indiscriminate attack affecting the civilian population or civilian objects
>>>>>in the knowledge that such attack will cause excessive loss of life, injury
>>>>>to civilians or damage to civilian objects". Further details are provided
>>>>>by the Protocols, all of which lead to the conclusion that the Israeli
>>>>>attack on South Lebanon constituted a 'grave breach' of international
>>>>>humanitarian law. The individual who bears the primary responsibility for
>>>>>the Israeli operation against South Lebanon is Yitzhak Rabin, in his double
>>>>>capacity as Prime Minister and Minister of Defense.
>>>>>
>>>>>LEGAL DISCUSSION
>>>>>
>>>>>There are a number of legal questions that must be settled before charging
>>>>>Mr. Rabin for participation in war crimes. Among these questions we can
>>>>>mention the following: Are the facts allegedly attributed to Mr. Rabin
>>>>>true? Are the sources trustworthy? What is the evidence that Mr. Rabin had
>>>>>anything to do with these acts ? Do the acts under consideration constitute
>>>>>prosecutable crimes under international law?
>>>>>
>>>>>Another set of questions would deal with the problems involved in bringing
>>>>>a person such as Mr. Rabin to trial. These problems are of a similar nature
>>>>>to those encountered today by the UN Tribunal on War Crimes Committed in
>>>>>Ex- Yugoslavia. These questions will not be dealt here as they are
>>>>>premature. However it is necessary to deal, if only summarily, with a
>>>>>widely held opinion, according to which the whole question of the
>>>>>prosecution of war criminals is a non-starter, because it is impossible to
>>>>>bring the leading war criminals to trial due to their political status or
>>>>>their country's sovereignty. Although it is true that in many situations,
>>>>>it is impossible to bring about the prosecution and apprehension of the
>>>>>leading world war criminals, it is nevertheless of great public utility to
>>>>>expose their crimes as widely as possible, isolate such people politically
>>>>>and morally and cause small but significant changes of policy. Such
>>>>>publicity would at least prevent that war criminals could travel between
>>>>>world capitals in total impunity and be feted as peace heroes, as Mr. Rabin
>>>>>has been. It might be argued that in some circumstances, an individual
>>>>>charged of war crimes, might voluntarily seek due process, either to clean
>>>>>his name, or to avoid extra-judicial retribution.
>>>>>
>>>>>The Authencitiy/Reliabity of the Evidence
>>>>>
>>>>>In all above cases there has been a wide coverage given by the press and in
>>>>>scholarly works to the acts committed. There may be disagreement between
>>>>>observers as to the number of victims and to details regarding the conduct
>>>>>of hostilities.
>>>>>
>>>>>In the first two cases (expulsion from Lydda and Ramleh and expulsion from
>>>>>the 3 villages around Latrun), there is no controversy about the fact that
>>>>>the population of these two towns was expelled. A disagreement persists
>>>>>regarding the aim of the expulsion. Israel maintains that the expulsion
>>>>>were carried out because of military necessity. From the point of view of
>>>>>international humanitarian law, it does not matter why a civil population
>>>>>is deported. Such deportations are prohibited in all circumstances and
>>>>>constitute war crimes. Furthermore, if it were true that a the expulsions
>>>>>were carried out because of military necessity, the expelled would be
>>>>>allowed to return to their homes, once the hostilities ended. But Israel
>>>>>has not only refused to allow such return but allowed Jewish immigrants
>>>>>from other countries to permanently occupy the abandoned houses in Ramleh
>>>>>and Lydda and planted a park on the land of the villages destroyed in 1967.
>>>>>
>>>>>Ample evidence has been published in 1988 in the Israeli press and the
>>>>>international press about acts of beatings and breaking of limbs by Israeli
>>>>>soldiers. Such evidence includes also visual documentaries, testimonies by
>>>>>Israeli soldiers and testimonies of victims. There is no controversy about
>>>>>the fact that such acts were carried out.
>>>>>
>>>>>The last case, regarding the massive attack on South Lebanon, was reported
>>>>>in the international press. The effect of the attack was documented in
>>>>>great detail, particularly the flight of hundreds of thousands of civilians
>>>>>from their homes in South Lebanon and their plight.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mr. Rabin's Personal Involvement in the Above Acts
>>>>>
>>>>>As to Mr. Rabin's personal implication in the above acts, this has never
>>>>>been questioned by anyone. As quoted above, Mr. Rabin has publicly
>>>>>acknowledged to have ordered the commission of the first two actions (1948
>>>>>and 1967).
>>>>>
>>>>>While Mr. Rabin did not yet explicitly admit to have urged Israeli soldiers
>>>>>"to break the bones" of Palestinian demonstrators, his declared policy in
>>>>>1987/88 to crush the Palestinian uprising by "force, might, beatings" and
>>>>>the numerous testimonies in Israeli courts by Israeli IDF personnel
>>>>>implicating Mr. Rabin in such punishments appear sufficient to charge him
>>>>>of instigating and condoning these acts.
>>>>>
>>>>>As for the IDF attack on South Lebanon in 1993, it can be assumed that it
>>>>>was committed under direct orders from and permission by Israel's Prime
>>>>>Minister and Minister of Defense, Mr. Yitzhak Rabin. Although one might
>>>>>argue that other Israeli nationals, primarily leaders of the IDF, were
>>>>>implicated in this gross violation of international law, this does not
>>>>>mitigate Mr. Rabin's primary responsibility for this act.
>>>>>
>>>>>The Legal Status of the Above Acts under International Law
>>>>>
>>>>>Some Israeli legal scholars argue that the acts described above cannot be
>>>>>described as 'war crimes' as they are grossly different in extent and
>>>>>intent from the war crimes committed by the Nazi regime. According to this
>>>>>view, only the most outrageous types of 'war crimes', as committed in World
>>>>>War II, would qualify for universal juridiction. This narrow interpretation
>>>>>of international humanitarian law is widely challenged because in practice
>>>>>this would nullify the intent and spirit of the Geneva Conventions. Such
>>>>>interpretation would thus be incompatible with the Law of Treaties. The
>>>>>International Committee of the Red Cross, who have published the Geneva
>>>>>Conventions and their Additional Protocols, have also published
>>>>>authoritative and detailed commentaries on specific articles of these
>>>>>treaties. These can serve as a source to evaluate the applicability of the
>>>>>Conventions to these acts. The fact that the Geneva Conventions have been
>>>>>violated with impunity by numerous states, has never been considered by
>>>>>legal scholars as a practice diluting the letter and spirit of the
>>>>>Conventions.
>>>>>
>>>>>The Geneva Conventions prohibit deportation both of groups and of
>>>>>individuals in all circumstances. The expulsion of 5,000 or 50,000
>>>>>civilians from their homes falls clearly under this heading. The Nuremberg
>>>>>Principles, on the base of which Nazi war criminals were convicted, define
>>>>>the "deportation ... for any ... purpose of civilian population of or in
>>>>>occupied territory" as War Crime. These Principles define further the
>>>>>"deportation and other inhuman acts done against any civilian
>>>>>population....when such acts are done....in connection with any crime
>>>>>against peace or any war crime", as Crime against Humanity.
>>>>>
>>>>>There has been some controversy about the legal nature of exactions
>>>>>committed by Israeli soldiers against Palestinian demonstrators,
>>>>>particularly the beatings under custody. To beat a person he must be
>>>>>already under custody. He thus must first be apprehended and therefore does
>>>>>not represent any imminent danger to those detaining him. Any
>>>>>extra-judicial attack or punishment upon his person constitutes a gross
>>>>>deviation from accepted norms of civilized law (which require the due
>>>>>process of law to determine a defendant's culpability and punishment). The
>>>>>Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 are not as specific as the Additional
>>>>>Protocol I of 1977, which proscribes 'corporal punishment', although not as
>>>>>a 'grave breach'. The final legal determination of this offence would have
>>>>>to be carried out by experts.
>>>>>
>>>>>As to the attack on South Lebanon, international law is quite explicit
>>>>>about the prohibition of attacking civilian areas. The fact that Hizbullah
>>>>>forces launched attacks against Israel from these areas does not relieve
>>>>>Israel from the duty to observe the rules of warfare when launching
>>>>>retribution. In launching and committing the massive attacks on wide
>>>>>populated areas in South Lebanon and causing hundreds of thousands of
>>>>>people to flee their homes, the IDF clearly and grossly violated the laws
>>>>>of warfare. Article 85, paragraph 3 (a) and (b) of the Additional Protocol
>>>>>I to the Geneva Conventions of 1949 specify such attacks among the 'grave
>>>>>breaches' (war crimes), if such attacks were committed "wilfully, in
>>>>>violation of the relevant provisions of this Protocol, and causing death or
>>>>>serious injury to body or health".
>>>>>
>>>>>Do State Leaders Enjoy Immunity Against Prosecution?
>>>>>
>>>>>It is generally believed that State leaders are immune from legal
>>>>>prosecution with regards to international humanitarian law, but this is
>>>>>incorrect. The international community has accepted that a limited number
>>>>>of crimes are so odious that their perpetrators are considered enemies of
>>>>>Mankind. Such crimes include piracy, slavery, genocide, international
>>>>>terrorism and war crimes, to name a few. It is the right and duty of all
>>>>>nations to search and bring to trial individuals who have committed such
>>>>>crimes, regardless of nationality and status. The Nuremberg Principles,
>>>>>established in 1945 and incorporated into positive international law since
>>>>>then, state:
>>>>>
>>>>>"The fact that a person who committed an act which constitutes a crime
>>>>>under international law acted as Head of State or responsible Government
>>>>>official does not relieve him from responsibility under international law"
>>>>>(Principle III. "The fact that a person acted pursuant to order of his
>>>>>Government or of a superior does not relieve him from responsibility under
>>>>>international law, provided a moral choice was in fact possible for him".
>>>>>(Principle IV).
>>>>>
>>>>>Evidence provided by Israeli historian Benny Morris indicates that some
>>>>>Israeli leaders and government members, such as Minister Shitrit, were
>>>>>shocked by the expulsions from Lydda and Ramleh in 1948 and wanted to stop
>>>>>them. Mr. Rabin choose to implement the expulsions by all means in spite of
>>>>>such reservations.
>>>>>
>>>>>Conclusion
>>>>>
>>>>>There is ample evidence publicly available regarding the responsibility of
>>>>>Mr. Yitzhak Rabin, currently Prime Minister of the State of Israel, in
>>>>>instigating and ordering acts defined as war crimes in international law.
>>>>>Summary of this evidence has been provided in this memorandum as well as a
>>>>>short legal discussion.
>>>>>
>>>>>It is the obligation of the Signatories of the Geneva Conventions to
>>>>>initiate legal procedures, either in domestic courts or through a
>>>>>collective mechanism under UN auspices, for the prosecution of war
>>>>>criminals. This duty is absolute and cannot be waived - legally - by
>>>>>political or other considerations. In practice, leading war criminals, such
>>>>>as Mr. Rabin, have not been prosecuted but feted. In today's world, it
>>>>>seems that one must have committed the most heinous war crimes to be
>>>>>awarded the Nobel Prize for Peace. UN members are perceived as acting in
>>>>>concert to shield war criminals. Such gross, systematic and persistent
>>>>>derelictions by UN member states and signatories of the Geneva Conventions,
>>>>>undermine the moral and legal authority of these states to ensure
>>>>>international equity and peace. If the lawkeepers are themselves criminal
>>>>>or help to shield leading criminals from prosecution, their legitimacy as
>>>>>lawkeepers must be challenged for the sake of world peace and justice. Such
>>>>>challenge can be moral, legal, political or military, depending on the
>>>>>circumstances.
>>>>>
>>>>>Human rights' and peace organisations who wish to see the rule of law
>>>>>supersede the law of the jungle in international affairs and all those who
>>>>>struggle for democracy, public accountability and justice, should therefore
>>>>>avail themselves of the evidence provided here to publicize Mr. Rabin's
>>>>>deeds and press for his apprehension and prosecution, wherever he is to be
>>>>>found.
>>>>
>>>>Judges, Lawyers and Politicians Need to be recycled - as Fertiliser



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On 1 Jan 1999 18:34:52 GMT, panie  kmcvay  puta wanted to tell the
truth for a change, instead of what his zhid masters dictated;

>MIEDZYNARODOWY KOMITET CZERWONEGO KRZYZA  (ICRC)
>
>{…}
>Genewa, 10 maja 1979 roku
>
>
>Nie mozemy niestety dostarczyc zadanych liczb, poniewaz ICRC nigdy nie
>probowal dokonywac statystyk w sprawie ofiar wojny  , ani tez nie nigdy
>nie poswiadczal dokladnosci statystyk przedstawianych przez osoby
>trzecie. W rzecywistosci podstawowym celem ICRC jest niesienie pomocy
>ofiarom konfliktow zbrojnych , a nie wystepowanie w charakterze komisji
>informacyjnej lub tez urzedu statystycznego.
>Jesli chodzi o liczbe 300,000 ofier , wymieniona na stronie 28
>przyslanego przez Pana dokumentu, to w dniu 19 stycznia 1955 roku gazeta
>“Die Tat” opublikowala artykul (ktorego fotokopie zalaczamy), w ktorym
>przytacza liczbe ofiar II Wojny Swiatowej , zawierajaca te 300,000.
>Jak Pan zobaczy po przeczytaniu tego artykulu, po pierwsze liczba
>300,000 nie byla podana przez ICRC , po drugie , nawiazuje ona tylko do
>nienieckich ofier (Zydow I nie-Zydow) obozow koncentracyjnych. Zatem
>autorzy broszury podwojnie zafalszowali swoje informacje, raz przez
>stwierdzenie,ze liczba ta nawiazuje do wszystkich zydowskich ofier
>deportacji, drugi raz przez powolanie sie na ICRC jako na zrodlo
>informacji.
>
>{…}
>
>
>Z powazaniem,
>
>
>R. Gaillard-Moret
>
>Naczelnik …

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On Thu, 17 Dec 1998 21:57:40 GMT, cohend@kammer.com wrote:
>On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:02:36 GMT, kenoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>>>On Mon, 29 Sep 1997 01:42:58 GMT, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>
>>>>And don't forget the murders of the British, such as in the King david
>>>>Hotel, by the IRGUN and Stern Gang, involving this great zionist
>>>>gangster!!!
>
>>>>On Sun, 28 Sep 1997 18:30:30 -0700, Clancy
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Memorandum on Yitzhak Rabin's participation in war crimes
>>>>>
>>>>>By Elias Davidsson, Reykjav_k, Iceland October 1992. Revisions in December
>>>>>1992 and December 1994
>>>>>
>>>>>A number of Member States of the United Nations have declared their
>>>>>interest and support for the establishment of an International Criminal
>>>>>Court under United Nations auspices to deal with international crimes such
>>>>>as war crimes and crimes against humanity. A Special Court to deal with War
>>>>>Crimes committed in ex-Yugoslavia has been established under UN auspices
>>>>>and has began functioning. There have also been calls by non-governmental
>>>>>organisations and eminent citizens for the trial of individual leaders,
>>>>>such as Saddam Hussein, Pol Pot, George Bush and John Major, for their
>>>>>alleged participation in war crimes. More and more people recognize the
>>>>>importance of holding individual public leaders responsible for their deeds
>>>>>and failings, not only politically and morally, but also legally.
>>>>>International law provides some opportunities in this direction, which have
>>>>>not been used yet.
>>>>>
>>>>>Such opportunity presents itself in the Geneva Conventions of 12 August
>>>>>1949. By signing these Conventions, each Signatory State undertook "to
>>>>>search for persons alleged to have committed, or to have ordered to be
>>>>>committed, [such] grave breaches, and [shall] bring such persons,
>>>>>regardless of their nationality, before its own courts." A Signatory may
>>>>>also avail itself of the possibility, under certain conditions, of handing
>>>>>such persons to another Signatory State for trial.
>>>>>
>>>>>Since the Nurnberg and Tokyo trials in which the leading World War II
>>>>>criminals were tried, no judicial body of any country has been willing to
>>>>>initiate legal measures for the apprehension and trial of the world's
>>>>>leading war criminals, in spite of States' legal obligations to do so.
>>>>>States, including those claiming to support human rights, shield leading
>>>>>war criminals from prosecution or provide them with shelter. Individuals
>>>>>such as Pol Pot of Kampuchea, Saddam Hussein of Iraq, Assad of Syria,
>>>>>Pinochet of Chile and Mobutu of Zaire, are often, and justifiably, labelled
>>>>>as enemies of Mankind. But none of them has ever been formally charged by
>>>>>any Signatory of the Geneva Conventions, in spite of ample evidence of
>>>>>their responsibility for international crimes. Other gross human right
>>>>>violators (such as the leaders of Haiti) have been offered shelter in third
>>>>>countries where they escape prosecution.
>>>>>
>>>>>The Israeli-Arab conflict, or more correctly the Zionist- Palestinian
>>>>>conflict, has lasted for almost a century. In the course of this conflict,
>>>>>many acts of violence were committed by both sides. But not every act of
>>>>>violence committed in an international conflict is defined in international
>>>>>law as a war crime or a crime against humanity. The difference lies both in
>>>>>the nature of the crime, its extent, whether it is systematic or sporadic
>>>>>and whether violence was committed against non-combatants, to name a few
>>>>>criteria. Only the most odious crimes are considered as offences against
>>>>>Mankind, which all states, individually and collectively, are required to
>>>>>repress. The Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 and their Additional
>>>>>Protocols of 1977, provide a list of such crimes.
>>>>>
>>>>>The present memorandum provides evidence about the responsibility of Mr.
>>>>>Yitzhak Rabin, Israeli national and current Prime Minister of the State of
>>>>>Israel, for acts committed under his orders and which are defined in the
>>>>>Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 and their Additional Protocol I of
>>>>>1977, as 'grave breaches', the technical term for war crimes. The
>>>>>memorandum includes also a preliminary legal discussion about the acts in
>>>>>question, the responsibility of Mr. Rabin and the duties of states to
>>>>>prosecute.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Mr. Rabin Was Responsible for Ethnical Cleaning / Deportation in 1948
>>>>>
>>>>>On 12 July 1948, Lt. Colonel Yitzhak Rabin, Chief of Operations Operation
>>>>>Dani, issued the following order to Yiftah Brigade headquarters:
>>>>>
>>>>>"1. The inhabitants of Lydda must be expelled quickly without attention to
>>>>>age. They should be directed towards Beit Nabala. Yiftah [Brigade
>>>>>headquarters] must determine the method and inform [Operation] Dani HQ and
>>>>>8th Brigade HQ. 2. Implement immediately." The order was signed "Yitzhak
>>>>>R[abin]."
>>>>>
>>>>>The implementation of this order is described in the authoritative book
>>>>>"The birth of the Palestinian refugee problem, 1947-1949" by Israeli
>>>>>historian Benny Morris (Cambridge University Press, 1987) [pages 207-210]
>>>>>and more in detail in Michael Palumbo's book "The Palestinian catastrophe:
>>>>>The 1948 expulsion of a people from their homeland", Quartet Books,
>>>>>London/New York, 1987 [Chapter VIII: The Lydda Death March].
>>>>>
>>>>>These publications offer further evidence about Mr. Rabin's implication in
>>>>>this event. The authors estimate that approx. 50.000 civilians (Arabs) were
>>>>>expelled from Lydda and Ramleh under Mr. Rabin's orders. As a prelude to
>>>>>the flight hundreds of civilians were killed by Israeli soldiers. Many more
>>>>>died in the ensuing `march to exile'. Although Zionist leaders claimed that
>>>>>the expulsions were based on military necessity, the fact that the refugees
>>>>>were not allowed to return and declarations by Zionist leaders about the
>>>>>necessity to reduce the number of Arabs in the incumbent Jewish state lend
>>>>>credence to the claim (by Palestinians) that the expulsions were part of a
>>>>>planned 'transfer' policy by the Zionist authorities, in other words a
>>>>>master plan of "ethnical cleansing".
>>>>>
>>>>>The deportation of civilians constitutes a Crime against Humanity under
>>>>>Article 6(c) of the Nnrnberg Charter and a grave breach of the Fourth
>>>>>Geneva Convention of 12 August 1949, as specified in Article 147 thereof.
>>>>>The unjustifiable delay in the repatriation of the inhabitants of Lydda and
>>>>>Ramleh (who have never been allowed to return) constitutes a grave breach
>>>>>of the First Additional Protocol to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August
>>>>>1949 (article 85.4).
>>>>>
>>>>>Article 85.5 of the First Additional Protocol to the Geneva Conventions of
>>>>>12 August 1949 specifically refers to grave breaches as 'war crimes'.
>>>>>
>>>>>2. Mr Rabin Ordered in 1967 the Destruction of 3 Villages and the Expulsion
>>>>>                            of their Inhabitants
>>>>>
>>>>>In the 1967 war between Israel and Jordan, Yitzhak Rabin was Chief of Staff
>>>>>of the Israeli Defence Forces. In this short war some 5.000 inhabitants
>>>>>from three villages in the Latrun triangle between Tel Aviv and Jerusalem
>>>>>(Emwas, Beit Nuba and Yalou) were expelled by the Israeli army and their
>>>>>villages totally destroyed. An Israeli soldier, Amos Kenan, who took part
>>>>>in the expulsions, described these acts in a report sent to all Israeli
>>>>>Members of Parliament. According to press reports, including one in
>>>>>Jerusalem Post of 24 October 1991, Mr. Yitzhak Rabin admitted in Canadian
>>>>>TV having given the order to destroy the villages. The inhabitants of these
>>>>>villages were never allowed to return and rebuilt their village nor bury
>>>>>their dead in the lands of their former village.
>>>>>
>>>>>The deportation of civilians constitutes a Crime against Humanity under
>>>>>Article 6(c) of the Nnrnberg Charter and a grave breach of the Fourth
>>>>>Geneva Convention of 12 August 1949, as specified in Article 147 thereof.
>>>>>The unjustifiable delay in the repatriation of the inhabitants of the above
>>>>>three villages constitutes a grave breach of the First Additional Protocol
>>>>>to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 (article 85.4).
>>>>>
>>>>>In addition, the Geneva Conventions as well as their additional protocols
>>>>>prohibit "at any time and in any place whatsoever....collective
>>>>>punishments". It seems that the destruction of these villages - every
>>>>>single house in them - constitutes 'collective punishment' within the
>>>>>meaning of the Conventions.
>>>>>
>>>>>    3. Mr Rabin Urged Israeli Soldiers to Break the Bones of Palestinian
>>>>>                                 Youngsters
>>>>>
>>>>>In mid-January 1988, Mr. Rabin, then Israeli Defense Minister, announced a
>>>>>policy to restore order in the Occupied Territories by "force, might,
>>>>>beatings". More specifically, he urged Israeli soldiers to summarily (and
>>>>>viciously) beat Palestinian demonstrators. Israeli soldiers implemented
>>>>>this policy, breaking the hands or arms of many demonstrators with
>>>>>methodically directed blows, using sticks and stones. In some cases,
>>>>>Palestinian youngsters were rounded up from their homes, brought to remote
>>>>>areas, and there, while a couple of soldiers held them, had their bones
>>>>>smashed. The international outrage called forth by a 40- minute long
>>>>>TV-film secretly shot, and showing how Israeli soldiers smash the bones of
>>>>>a Palestinian youth, compelled the Israeli government to halt these
>>>>>extra-judicial and inhuman punishments.
>>>>>
>>>>>Israeli soldiers, charged for using excessive force and brought to trial in
>>>>>Israel, have testified that the orders for these practices originated from
>>>>>above, including from Yitzhak Rabin. Although the Israeli press published
>>>>>numerous testimonies, which all mention Mr. Rabin as the instigator of
>>>>>these practices (i.e. Ha'aretz, 9. April, 1. July, 3. July 1990, Jerusalem
>>>>>Post of 25 July and 30 June 1992), Mr. Rabin was never asked to testify in
>>>>>court. No inquiry was initiated regarding Mr. Rabin's role in these
>>>>>policies.
>>>>>
>>>>>Article 147 of the Fourth Geneva Convention of 12 August 1949, specifies as
>>>>>one of the grave breaches (war crimes) "inhuman treatment....wilfully
>>>>>causing great suffering or serious injury to body or health". Protocol I
>>>>>Additional to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 (1977), lists among
>>>>>the acts which remain "prohibited at any time and in any place whatsoever,
>>>>>whether committed by civilian or by military agents:": "Violence to
>>>>>the....physical or mental well-being of persons, in particular....(iii)
>>>>>corporal punishment."
>>>>>
>>>>>    4. Yitzhak Rabin Ordered in 1993 Indiscriminate Attacks of Civilian
>>>>>                       Population Centers in Lebanon
>>>>>
>>>>>The Sunday Times, 1 August 1993, reported under the heading: Rabin's war:
>>>>>"Late yesterday, he [Rabin] called off his personal seven-day war in
>>>>>southern Lebanon. (...) Rabin's War - Operation Accountability - has killed
>>>>>at least 130 and sent hundreds of thousands of Lebanese fleeing towards
>>>>>Beirut. (...) Southern Lebanon had become a land without people.(...) About
>>>>>80 villages have been hit.". According to the London-based Middle East
>>>>>International (MEI) of 6 August 1993, the "majority of casualties were
>>>>>civilians. At least 55 towns and villages were very heavily damaged,
>>>>>including Nabatiya, a major regional center with a normal population of
>>>>>around 100,000."
>>>>>
>>>>>According to the editorial of the same issue of MEI, this seven-day
>>>>>bombardment of southern Lebanon was "expressly designed (as Mr. Rabin
>>>>>himself announced) to render South Lebanon 'uninhabitable' and to create a
>>>>>tidal wave of refugees so huge that it would destabilise the government in
>>>>>Beirut and bend it to Israel's will (...)"
>>>>>
>>>>>According to Lebanese government estimates (reported in MEI), "some 400,000
>>>>>people - mainly Shi'ite Muslims - fled their homes in panic, with about
>>>>>half of them converging on Beirut and its southern suburbs. While some had
>>>>>families and friends to go to, others arrived with only the clothes they
>>>>>stood in, and had no money to fend for themselves".
>>>>>
>>>>>Both the Hague Conventions of 1907 and the Additional Protocol I to the
>>>>>Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 contain specific provisions that
>>>>>prohibit attacks on civilian populations. Thus Additional Protocol I
>>>>>specifies as a 'grave breach' (war crime) "making the civilian population
>>>>>or individual civilians the object of attack" as well as "launching an
>>>>>indiscriminate attack affecting the civilian population or civilian objects
>>>>>in the knowledge that such attack will cause excessive loss of life, injury
>>>>>to civilians or damage to civilian objects". Further details are provided
>>>>>by the Protocols, all of which lead to the conclusion that the Israeli
>>>>>attack on South Lebanon constituted a 'grave breach' of international
>>>>>humanitarian law. The individual who bears the primary responsibility for
>>>>>the Israeli operation against South Lebanon is Yitzhak Rabin, in his double
>>>>>capacity as Prime Minister and Minister of Defense.
>>>>>
>>>>>LEGAL DISCUSSION
>>>>>
>>>>>There are a number of legal questions that must be settled before charging
>>>>>Mr. Rabin for participation in war crimes. Among these questions we can
>>>>>mention the following: Are the facts allegedly attributed to Mr. Rabin
>>>>>true? Are the sources trustworthy? What is the evidence that Mr. Rabin had
>>>>>anything to do with these acts ? Do the acts under consideration constitute
>>>>>prosecutable crimes under international law?
>>>>>
>>>>>Another set of questions would deal with the problems involved in bringing
>>>>>a person such as Mr. Rabin to trial. These problems are of a similar nature
>>>>>to those encountered today by the UN Tribunal on War Crimes Committed in
>>>>>Ex- Yugoslavia. These questions will not be dealt here as they are
>>>>>premature. However it is necessary to deal, if only summarily, with a
>>>>>widely held opinion, according to which the whole question of the
>>>>>prosecution of war criminals is a non-starter, because it is impossible to
>>>>>bring the leading war criminals to trial due to their political status or
>>>>>their country's sovereignty. Although it is true that in many situations,
>>>>>it is impossible to bring about the prosecution and apprehension of the
>>>>>leading world war criminals, it is nevertheless of great public utility to
>>>>>expose their crimes as widely as possible, isolate such people politically
>>>>>and morally and cause small but significant changes of policy. Such
>>>>>publicity would at least prevent that war criminals could travel between
>>>>>world capitals in total impunity and be feted as peace heroes, as Mr. Rabin
>>>>>has been. It might be argued that in some circumstances, an individual
>>>>>charged of war crimes, might voluntarily seek due process, either to clean
>>>>>his name, or to avoid extra-judicial retribution.
>>>>>
>>>>>The Authencitiy/Reliabity of the Evidence
>>>>>
>>>>>In all above cases there has been a wide coverage given by the press and in
>>>>>scholarly works to the acts committed. There may be disagreement between
>>>>>observers as to the number of victims and to details regarding the conduct
>>>>>of hostilities.
>>>>>
>>>>>In the first two cases (expulsion from Lydda and Ramleh and expulsion from
>>>>>the 3 villages around Latrun), there is no controversy about the fact that
>>>>>the population of these two towns was expelled. A disagreement persists
>>>>>regarding the aim of the expulsion. Israel maintains that the expulsion
>>>>>were carried out because of military necessity. From the point of view of
>>>>>international humanitarian law, it does not matter why a civil population
>>>>>is deported. Such deportations are prohibited in all circumstances and
>>>>>constitute war crimes. Furthermore, if it were true that a the expulsions
>>>>>were carried out because of military necessity, the expelled would be
>>>>>allowed to return to their homes, once the hostilities ended. But Israel
>>>>>has not only refused to allow such return but allowed Jewish immigrants
>>>>>from other countries to permanently occupy the abandoned houses in Ramleh
>>>>>and Lydda and planted a park on the land of the villages destroyed in 1967.
>>>>>
>>>>>Ample evidence has been published in 1988 in the Israeli press and the
>>>>>international press about acts of beatings and breaking of limbs by Israeli
>>>>>soldiers. Such evidence includes also visual documentaries, testimonies by
>>>>>Israeli soldiers and testimonies of victims. There is no controversy about
>>>>>the fact that such acts were carried out.
>>>>>
>>>>>The last case, regarding the massive attack on South Lebanon, was reported
>>>>>in the international press. The effect of the attack was documented in
>>>>>great detail, particularly the flight of hundreds of thousands of civilians
>>>>>from their homes in South Lebanon and their plight.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mr. Rabin's Personal Involvement in the Above Acts
>>>>>
>>>>>As to Mr. Rabin's personal implication in the above acts, this has never
>>>>>been questioned by anyone. As quoted above, Mr. Rabin has publicly
>>>>>acknowledged to have ordered the commission of the first two actions (1948
>>>>>and 1967).
>>>>>
>>>>>While Mr. Rabin did not yet explicitly admit to have urged Israeli soldiers
>>>>>"to break the bones" of Palestinian demonstrators, his declared policy in
>>>>>1987/88 to crush the Palestinian uprising by "force, might, beatings" and
>>>>>the numerous testimonies in Israeli courts by Israeli IDF personnel
>>>>>implicating Mr. Rabin in such punishments appear sufficient to charge him
>>>>>of instigating and condoning these acts.
>>>>>
>>>>>As for the IDF attack on South Lebanon in 1993, it can be assumed that it
>>>>>was committed under direct orders from and permission by Israel's Prime
>>>>>Minister and Minister of Defense, Mr. Yitzhak Rabin. Although one might
>>>>>argue that other Israeli nationals, primarily leaders of the IDF, were
>>>>>implicated in this gross violation of international law, this does not
>>>>>mitigate Mr. Rabin's primary responsibility for this act.
>>>>>
>>>>>The Legal Status of the Above Acts under International Law
>>>>>
>>>>>Some Israeli legal scholars argue that the acts described above cannot be
>>>>>described as 'war crimes' as they are grossly different in extent and
>>>>>intent from the war crimes committed by the Nazi regime. According to this
>>>>>view, only the most outrageous types of 'war crimes', as committed in World
>>>>>War II, would qualify for universal juridiction. This narrow interpretation
>>>>>of international humanitarian law is widely challenged because in practice
>>>>>this would nullify the intent and spirit of the Geneva Conventions. Such
>>>>>interpretation would thus be incompatible with the Law of Treaties. The
>>>>>International Committee of the Red Cross, who have published the Geneva
>>>>>Conventions and their Additional Protocols, have also published
>>>>>authoritative and detailed commentaries on specific articles of these
>>>>>treaties. These can serve as a source to evaluate the applicability of the
>>>>>Conventions to these acts. The fact that the Geneva Conventions have been
>>>>>violated with impunity by numerous states, has never been considered by
>>>>>legal scholars as a practice diluting the letter and spirit of the
>>>>>Conventions.
>>>>>
>>>>>The Geneva Conventions prohibit deportation both of groups and of
>>>>>individuals in all circumstances. The expulsion of 5,000 or 50,000
>>>>>civilians from their homes falls clearly under this heading. The Nuremberg
>>>>>Principles, on the base of which Nazi war criminals were convicted, define
>>>>>the "deportation ... for any ... purpose of civilian population of or in
>>>>>occupied territory" as War Crime. These Principles define further the
>>>>>"deportation and other inhuman acts done against any civilian
>>>>>population....when such acts are done....in connection with any crime
>>>>>against peace or any war crime", as Crime against Humanity.
>>>>>
>>>>>There has been some controversy about the legal nature of exactions
>>>>>committed by Israeli soldiers against Palestinian demonstrators,
>>>>>particularly the beatings under custody. To beat a person he must be
>>>>>already under custody. He thus must first be apprehended and therefore does
>>>>>not represent any imminent danger to those detaining him. Any
>>>>>extra-judicial attack or punishment upon his person constitutes a gross
>>>>>deviation from accepted norms of civilized law (which require the due
>>>>>process of law to determine a defendant's culpability and punishment). The
>>>>>Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 are not as specific as the Additional
>>>>>Protocol I of 1977, which proscribes 'corporal punishment', although not as
>>>>>a 'grave breach'. The final legal determination of this offence would have
>>>>>to be carried out by experts.
>>>>>
>>>>>As to the attack on South Lebanon, international law is quite explicit
>>>>>about the prohibition of attacking civilian areas. The fact that Hizbullah
>>>>>forces launched attacks against Israel from these areas does not relieve
>>>>>Israel from the duty to observe the rules of warfare when launching
>>>>>retribution. In launching and committing the massive attacks on wide
>>>>>populated areas in South Lebanon and causing hundreds of thousands of
>>>>>people to flee their homes, the IDF clearly and grossly violated the laws
>>>>>of warfare. Article 85, paragraph 3 (a) and (b) of the Additional Protocol
>>>>>I to the Geneva Conventions of 1949 specify such attacks among the 'grave
>>>>>breaches' (war crimes), if such attacks were committed "wilfully, in
>>>>>violation of the relevant provisions of this Protocol, and causing death or
>>>>>serious injury to body or health".
>>>>>
>>>>>Do State Leaders Enjoy Immunity Against Prosecution?
>>>>>
>>>>>It is generally believed that State leaders are immune from legal
>>>>>prosecution with regards to international humanitarian law, but this is
>>>>>incorrect. The international community has accepted that a limited number
>>>>>of crimes are so odious that their perpetrators are considered enemies of
>>>>>Mankind. Such crimes include piracy, slavery, genocide, international
>>>>>terrorism and war crimes, to name a few. It is the right and duty of all
>>>>>nations to search and bring to trial individuals who have committed such
>>>>>crimes, regardless of nationality and status. The Nuremberg Principles,
>>>>>established in 1945 and incorporated into positive international law since
>>>>>then, state:
>>>>>
>>>>>"The fact that a person who committed an act which constitutes a crime
>>>>>under international law acted as Head of State or responsible Government
>>>>>official does not relieve him from responsibility under international law"
>>>>>(Principle III. "The fact that a person acted pursuant to order of his
>>>>>Government or of a superior does not relieve him from responsibility under
>>>>>international law, provided a moral choice was in fact possible for him".
>>>>>(Principle IV).
>>>>>
>>>>>Evidence provided by Israeli historian Benny Morris indicates that some
>>>>>Israeli leaders and government members, such as Minister Shitrit, were
>>>>>shocked by the expulsions from Lydda and Ramleh in 1948 and wanted to stop
>>>>>them. Mr. Rabin choose to implement the expulsions by all means in spite of
>>>>>such reservations.
>>>>>
>>>>>Conclusion
>>>>>
>>>>>There is ample evidence publicly available regarding the responsibility of
>>>>>Mr. Yitzhak Rabin, currently Prime Minister of the State of Israel, in
>>>>>instigating and ordering acts defined as war crimes in international law.
>>>>>Summary of this evidence has been provided in this memorandum as well as a
>>>>>short legal discussion.
>>>>>
>>>>>It is the obligation of the Signatories of the Geneva Conventions to
>>>>>initiate legal procedures, either in domestic courts or through a
>>>>>collective mechanism under UN auspices, for the prosecution of war
>>>>>criminals. This duty is absolute and cannot be waived - legally - by
>>>>>political or other considerations. In practice, leading war criminals, such
>>>>>as Mr. Rabin, have not been prosecuted but feted. In today's world, it
>>>>>seems that one must have committed the most heinous war crimes to be
>>>>>awarded the Nobel Prize for Peace. UN members are perceived as acting in
>>>>>concert to shield war criminals. Such gross, systematic and persistent
>>>>>derelictions by UN member states and signatories of the Geneva Conventions,
>>>>>undermine the moral and legal authority of these states to ensure
>>>>>international equity and peace. If the lawkeepers are themselves criminal
>>>>>or help to shield leading criminals from prosecution, their legitimacy as
>>>>>lawkeepers must be challenged for the sake of world peace and justice. Such
>>>>>challenge can be moral, legal, political or military, depending on the
>>>>>circumstances.
>>>>>
>>>>>Human rights' and peace organisations who wish to see the rule of law
>>>>>supersede the law of the jungle in international affairs and all those who
>>>>>struggle for democracy, public accountability and justice, should therefore
>>>>>avail themselves of the evidence provided here to publicize Mr. Rabin's
>>>>>deeds and press for his apprehension and prosecution, wherever he is to be
>>>>>found.
>>>>
>>>>Judges, Lawyers and Politicians Need to be recycled - as Fertiliser



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On Fri, 25 Sep 1998 04:25:59 GMT, gaygoyken@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:
>On Thu, 24 Sep 1998 10:14:17, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:
>On Wed, 23 Sep 98 20:34:05 GMT, stgeorge@i-link-2.net (Real Name:)
>wrote:

>>     We need to re-orient it, though,
>>to the countless Aryan lives taken in
>>jewish contrived wars,
>
>>------------Reply Separator----------------
>>On 9/22/98 4:24PM, in message 
>><6u9eik$re9@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com>, NSWPP 
>> wrote:
>
>>FEATURE-Auschwitz remains troubled ground for Poland
>>By Sean Maguire
>>Sept. 14, 1998
>
>>OSWIECIM, Poland (Reuters) - An angry man waving a 
>>gasoline can, a barking
>>puppy and a teen-age boy guard dozens of wooden 
>>crosses erected in a grassy
>>pit outside the high brick walls of the former Nazi 
>>death camp of Auschwitz. 
>
>>Kazimierz Switon, a veteran anti-communist and 
>>radical Roman Catholic with a
>>history of anti-establishment gestures, has 
>>threatened to set himself on
>>fire if the Polish government tries to remove him 
>>and the crosses from the
>>sensitive site. 
>
>>From the bedraggled tent that is home to his 
>>campaign he has managed to give
>>the government an intractable problem, the latest to 
>>dog attempts to better
>>Poland's image abroad and improve relations between 
>>the country and Jewish
>>groups. 
>
>>``The conflict strikes a blow at Poland's interests 
>>and must be resolved as
>>swiftly as possible,'' prime ministerial adviser 
>>Agnieszka Magdziak
>>Miszewska told the Catholic news agency.  ``We are 
>>beginning to be perceived
>>as anarchistic xenophobes ruled by our emotions,'' 
>>she added. 
>
>>But even if the government quickly secures an 
>>eviction order against Switon,
>>the affair has stalled efforts to put the management 
>>of the Auschwitz
>>Birkenau complex on a firm footing and made further 
>>conflict over the tragic
>>site inevitable. 
>
>>DO'S AND DONT'S AT AUSCHWITZ 
>
>>At issue is the definition of what activity is 
>>appropriate at a place where
>>Nazi forces occupying Poland murdered up to 1.5 
>>million people, 90 percent
>>of them Jews, in World War II.  Papal intervention 
>>was needed to resolve a
>>dispute over the presence of a Carmelite convent, 
>>which was moved out, and a
>>crisis erupted over plans to put a supermarket near 
>>the site. 
>
>>The presence of any religious symbols at the largest 
>>graveyard of European
>>Jewry has been a particular irritant since Jewish 
>>groups regard them as a
>>violation of the commemorative character and dignity 
>>of the complex. 
>
>>Poland's center-right government scored a minor 
>>triumph in December when it
>>removed unauthorized Stars of David and crosses from 
>>the dumping ground for
>>human ashes at Birkenau. 
>
>>A discreet deal between the government and an 
>>international Jewish coalition
>>to remove a large cross under which Polish-born Pope 
>>John Paul prayed in
>>1979 came unstuck when press attention caused a 
>>nationalist uproar. 
>
>>Switon's campaign to protect that and other crosses 
>>is backed by an informal
>>alliance of right-wing clergy, radical worker 
>>groups, anti-Semitic skinheads
>>and nationalists. 
>
>>It received initial support from Polish Catholics 
>>with memories of Communist
>>prohibitions on crosses in public places and from 
>>patriots determined that
>>national suffering at Auschwitz, where thousands of 
>>Poles died, not be
>>forgotten. 
>
>>But Switon's support has ebbed since bishops and the 
>>government took the
>>compromise position that the papal cross should 
>>remain and all new crosses
>>be removed. 
>
>>A U.S-led international Jew coalition, which has 
>>broken off dialogue with
>>Poland until the new crosses are taken down, is 
>>unlikely to accept the papal
>>cross as a permanent presence. That issue, the 
>>presence of a church in an
>>old Nazi building near Birkenau and a recent 
>>decision to allow a parking lot
>>and shop near Auschwitz are the next obstacles to be 
>>negotiated. 
>
>>``The cross is a major problem,'' said Ralph 
>>Grunewald of the Holocaust
>>Memorial Museum in Washington. ``I don't know the 
>>answer but the cross, all
>>religious symbols, all post-period elements should 
>>be the subject of behind-
>>the-scene discussion.'' 
>
>>``We have to remove all the crosses that were put up 
>>to provoke the Jewish
>>community,'' said presidential advisor Marek Siwiec, 
>>``But I don't see any
>>chance to have a serious and moderate discussion 
>>about the papal cross at
>>the moment.'' 
>
>>POLISH DESIRE FOR DIALOGUE 
>
>>Polish officials are irritated that the Switon 
>>affair has stymied efforts to
>>sign a deal that would take the future of 
>>Auschwitz-Birkenau out of the
>>political arena. Mindful of its campaign to join 
>>NATO and the European Union
>>and anxious to expiate the guilt of a 1946 pogrom 
>>and an anti-Semitic
>>campaign in 1968, authorities have been working to 
>>improve ties with Israel
>>and the Jewish diaspora. 
>
>>President Alexander Kwasniewski proposed a 
>>renovation, preservation and
>>education program in 1996 and the state began work 
>>on costly local
>>improvement schemes that also benefited the adjacent 
>>run-down town of
>>Oswiecim. But a grander plan for the bleak sites in 
>>southwestern Poland, and
>>international funding, are on hold. 
>
>>The ambitious plan includes linking Auschwitz more 
>>directly to Birkenau, two
>>miles away. Birkenau, built explicitly as an 
>>extermination center and where
>>most Jews died, is harder to get to and visited less 
>>frequently. 
>
>>A new walkway could join the two sites, passing by 
>>the ``Judenrampe,'' the
>>railway siding where most of the Jews arriving from 
>>across Europe were
>>offloaded, which is now neglected and overgrown with 
>>weeds. The tracks
>>directly into Birkenau, familiar from photographs, 
>>were built in 1944 for
>>Hungarian Jewish transports in the last phase of the 
>>extermination campaign. 
>
>>``No. 1 is to preserve the site,'' said Miles 
>>Lerman, chairman of the U.S.
>>Holocaust Museum Council. ``We're talking about 
>>preserving barbed wire,
>>concrete, the crematories.'' 
>
>>A new visitors' center, educational efforts, a 
>>better defined protection
>>zone, ground rules for what commercial activity is 
>>permissible nearby and an
>>internationally accountable management board are 
>>also on the agenda. 
>
>>Despite the frosty climate the government has high 
>>hopes for a new law
>>taking all Nazi German camps on Polish territory out 
>>of local authority
>>control, meeting objections that they are sometimes 
>>managed parochially. The
>>law will cover camps where Polish political 
>>prisoners died and where
>>Hitler's troops implemented the ``Final Solution,'' 
>>wiping out most of
>>Poland's pre-war 3.3 million Jewish population. 
>
>>``I hope this law will be accepted by the main 
>>Jewish circles because its
>>absence was previously a barrier to creating 
>>dialogue,'' said Agnieszka
>>Magdziak-Miszewska. 
>
>>But officials accept that, despite good will and 
>>improving relations,
>>Polish- Jewish dialogue is still vulnerable. 
>
>>``We have to live with the fact that protests and 
>>controversies will be with
>>us for a long time,'' said Stanislaw Krajewski, a 
>>leader of Poland's tiny
>>Jewish community.
>
>
>Why should the cursed Christkillers dictate to the sovereign people
>of Poland, what Polish people may do in their own country??
>
>Why should the Polish people forget that it was the damned JEW-led KGB
>who murdered the 25000 Polish officers at KATYN??
>
>Why should the Polish people forget that it was the JEW-led soviets
>who occupied and enslaved the Christian Polish people??
>
>-88-



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On 2 Jan 1999 02:54:40 -0700, gritpipe@nospam.compusmart.ab.ca wrote:

>On Thu, 31 Dec 1998 20:59:19, kmcvay@nanaimo.island.net (Ken McVay) wrote:
>
>> their "incineration" in the past... given that roughly 10% of our 
>> population is probably gay/lesbian,
>
>Pack of lies.  Try 2 to 3 percent.  Even these agendized groups of gays and 
>lesbians admit that the INFLATED 10 percent figure has been good for them 
>politically ...


Since when did you expect the shabbas-goy for the JEWS to ever tell
the truth???

The full text follows:

On Sat, 26 Dec 1998 19:04:05 GMT, kenmaggot@nazikor.niz.org wrote:

>In a move sure to anger orthodox Jews, as well as normal humans, newspapers
>across Canada report that a Winnipeg synagogue will perform marriages
>of same sex persons.

>This, even though there is no law in Canada permitting this!!!

>Rabbi Michael  Levenson of Temple Shalom admits that his actions are
>illegal. 


If his actions are illegal, why don't the authorities send him to
jail??


>He is quoted as saying that his ceremonies will be recognised
>from a religious point of view, not a political one. Levenson alleges
>that members of his temple supposedly supported his action.  However,
>even normal Jews are criticising this action. It seems that what this
>Jew is doing, is NOT acceptable, according to the Torah.


No wonder people think of the jews as mainly sodomites.


On Tue, 29 Dec 1998 00:41:36 -0500, "Phil Essing"
 wrote:

>Why do you hide your true identity and email?  Is it because you are ashamed
>of your own views?
>-Phil


>kenmaggot@nazikor.niz.org wrote in message
><368731fd.534720@news.sprint.ca>...
>>In amove sto anger orthodox Jews, as well as normal humans, newspapers
>>across Canada report that a Winnipeg synagogue will perform arriages
>>of same sex persons.

>>This, even though there is no law in Canada permitting this!!!

>>Rabbi Michael  Levenson of Temple Shalom admits that his actions are
>>illegal. He is quoted as saying that his ceremonies will be recognised
>>from a religious point of view, not a political one. Levenson alleges
>>that members of his temple supposedly supported his action.  However,
>>even normal Jews are criticising this action. It seems that what this
>>Jew is doing, is NOT acceptable, according to the Torah.



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On Fri, 25 Sep 1998 04:25:59 GMT, gaygoyken@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:
>On Thu, 24 Sep 1998 10:14:17, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:
>On Wed, 23 Sep 98 20:34:05 GMT, stgeorge@i-link-2.net (Real Name:)
>wrote:

>>     We need to re-orient it, though,
>>to the countless Aryan lives taken in
>>jewish contrived wars,
>
>>------------Reply Separator----------------
>>On 9/22/98 4:24PM, in message 
>><6u9eik$re9@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com>, NSWPP 
>> wrote:
>
>>FEATURE-Auschwitz remains troubled ground for Poland
>>By Sean Maguire
>>Sept. 14, 1998
>
>>OSWIECIM, Poland (Reuters) - An angry man waving a 
>>gasoline can, a barking
>>puppy and a teen-age boy guard dozens of wooden 
>>crosses erected in a grassy
>>pit outside the high brick walls of the former Nazi 
>>death camp of Auschwitz. 
>
>>Kazimierz Switon, a veteran anti-communist and 
>>radical Roman Catholic with a
>>history of anti-establishment gestures, has 
>>threatened to set himself on
>>fire if the Polish government tries to remove him 
>>and the crosses from the
>>sensitive site. 
>
>>From the bedraggled tent that is home to his 
>>campaign he has managed to give
>>the government an intractable problem, the latest to 
>>dog attempts to better
>>Poland's image abroad and improve relations between 
>>the country and Jewish
>>groups. 
>
>>``The conflict strikes a blow at Poland's interests 
>>and must be resolved as
>>swiftly as possible,'' prime ministerial adviser 
>>Agnieszka Magdziak
>>Miszewska told the Catholic news agency.  ``We are 
>>beginning to be perceived
>>as anarchistic xenophobes ruled by our emotions,'' 
>>she added. 
>
>>But even if the government quickly secures an 
>>eviction order against Switon,
>>the affair has stalled efforts to put the management 
>>of the Auschwitz
>>Birkenau complex on a firm footing and made further 
>>conflict over the tragic
>>site inevitable. 
>
>>DO'S AND DONT'S AT AUSCHWITZ 
>
>>At issue is the definition of what activity is 
>>appropriate at a place where
>>Nazi forces occupying Poland murdered up to 1.5 
>>million people, 90 percent
>>of them Jews, in World War II.  Papal intervention 
>>was needed to resolve a
>>dispute over the presence of a Carmelite convent, 
>>which was moved out, and a
>>crisis erupted over plans to put a supermarket near 
>>the site. 
>
>>The presence of any religious symbols at the largest 
>>graveyard of European
>>Jewry has been a particular irritant since Jewish 
>>groups regard them as a
>>violation of the commemorative character and dignity 
>>of the complex. 
>
>>Poland's center-right government scored a minor 
>>triumph in December when it
>>removed unauthorized Stars of David and crosses from 
>>the dumping ground for
>>human ashes at Birkenau. 
>
>>A discreet deal between the government and an 
>>international Jewish coalition
>>to remove a large cross under which Polish-born Pope 
>>John Paul prayed in
>>1979 came unstuck when press attention caused a 
>>nationalist uproar. 
>
>>Switon's campaign to protect that and other crosses 
>>is backed by an informal
>>alliance of right-wing clergy, radical worker 
>>groups, anti-Semitic skinheads
>>and nationalists. 
>
>>It received initial support from Polish Catholics 
>>with memories of Communist
>>prohibitions on crosses in public places and from 
>>patriots determined that
>>national suffering at Auschwitz, where thousands of 
>>Poles died, not be
>>forgotten. 
>
>>But Switon's support has ebbed since bishops and the 
>>government took the
>>compromise position that the papal cross should 
>>remain and all new crosses
>>be removed. 
>
>>A U.S-led international Jew coalition, which has 
>>broken off dialogue with
>>Poland until the new crosses are taken down, is 
>>unlikely to accept the papal
>>cross as a permanent presence. That issue, the 
>>presence of a church in an
>>old Nazi building near Birkenau and a recent 
>>decision to allow a parking lot
>>and shop near Auschwitz are the next obstacles to be 
>>negotiated. 
>
>>``The cross is a major problem,'' said Ralph 
>>Grunewald of the Holocaust
>>Memorial Museum in Washington. ``I don't know the 
>>answer but the cross, all
>>religious symbols, all post-period elements should 
>>be the subject of behind-
>>the-scene discussion.'' 
>
>>``We have to remove all the crosses that were put up 
>>to provoke the Jewish
>>community,'' said presidential advisor Marek Siwiec, 
>>``But I don't see any
>>chance to have a serious and moderate discussion 
>>about the papal cross at
>>the moment.'' 
>
>>POLISH DESIRE FOR DIALOGUE 
>
>>Polish officials are irritated that the Switon 
>>affair has stymied efforts to
>>sign a deal that would take the future of 
>>Auschwitz-Birkenau out of the
>>political arena. Mindful of its campaign to join 
>>NATO and the European Union
>>and anxious to expiate the guilt of a 1946 pogrom 
>>and an anti-Semitic
>>campaign in 1968, authorities have been working to 
>>improve ties with Israel
>>and the Jewish diaspora. 
>
>>President Alexander Kwasniewski proposed a 
>>renovation, preservation and
>>education program in 1996 and the state began work 
>>on costly local
>>improvement schemes that also benefited the adjacent 
>>run-down town of
>>Oswiecim. But a grander plan for the bleak sites in 
>>southwestern Poland, and
>>international funding, are on hold. 
>
>>The ambitious plan includes linking Auschwitz more 
>>directly to Birkenau, two
>>miles away. Birkenau, built explicitly as an 
>>extermination center and where
>>most Jews died, is harder to get to and visited less 
>>frequently. 
>
>>A new walkway could join the two sites, passing by 
>>the ``Judenrampe,'' the
>>railway siding where most of the Jews arriving from 
>>across Europe were
>>offloaded, which is now neglected and overgrown with 
>>weeds. The tracks
>>directly into Birkenau, familiar from photographs, 
>>were built in 1944 for
>>Hungarian Jewish transports in the last phase of the 
>>extermination campaign. 
>
>>``No. 1 is to preserve the site,'' said Miles 
>>Lerman, chairman of the U.S.
>>Holocaust Museum Council. ``We're talking about 
>>preserving barbed wire,
>>concrete, the crematories.'' 
>
>>A new visitors' center, educational efforts, a 
>>better defined protection
>>zone, ground rules for what commercial activity is 
>>permissible nearby and an
>>internationally accountable management board are 
>>also on the agenda. 
>
>>Despite the frosty climate the government has high 
>>hopes for a new law
>>taking all Nazi German camps on Polish territory out 
>>of local authority
>>control, meeting objections that they are sometimes 
>>managed parochially. The
>>law will cover camps where Polish political 
>>prisoners died and where
>>Hitler's troops implemented the ``Final Solution,'' 
>>wiping out most of
>>Poland's pre-war 3.3 million Jewish population. 
>
>>``I hope this law will be accepted by the main 
>>Jewish circles because its
>>absence was previously a barrier to creating 
>>dialogue,'' said Agnieszka
>>Magdziak-Miszewska. 
>
>>But officials accept that, despite good will and 
>>improving relations,
>>Polish- Jewish dialogue is still vulnerable. 
>
>>``We have to live with the fact that protests and 
>>controversies will be with
>>us for a long time,'' said Stanislaw Krajewski, a 
>>leader of Poland's tiny
>>Jewish community.
>
>
>Why should the cursed Christkillers dictate to the sovereign people
>of Poland, what Polish people may do in their own country??
>
>Why should the Polish people forget that it was the damned JEW-led KGB
>who murdered the 25000 Polish officers at KATYN??
>
>Why should the Polish people forget that it was the JEW-led soviets
>who occupied and enslaved the Christian Polish people??
>
>-88-



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On 1 Jan 1999 18:06:41 GMT, kmcvay (Kenneth McVay SOBC) the
shabbas-goy for the JEWS, wanted to tell the truth, as follows:


My thanks to you for reposting this article.
A brilliant truthful piece.

Ed Kadach


mahdi@alahram.com wrote:
> 

> >>On Sun, 19 Jul 1998 22:06:50 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
> >>>On 1 May 1998 13:08:00 +0200, Irmin@nsm.htp.org wrote:
> >
> >>>>American Dissident Voices Broadcast of April 25, 1998
> >>>>
> >>>>Katyn
> >>>>by Dr. William Pierce
> >>>>
> >>>>A background noise that seems never to go away is the constant
> >>>>whining and yammering of the Jews about how the world owes them a
> >>>>living because of their losses during the so-called "Holocaust."
> >>>>They do it, of course, because they make such a big profit on it.
> >>>>The latest flare-up of this Jewish play for a handout came more
> >>>>than a year ago when they began demanding that the Swiss pay them
> >>>>$7 billion, which "Holocaust" victims allegedly had stashed in
> >>>>numbered Swiss accounts before being hauled off to gas chambers
> >>>>during the Second World War.
> >>>>
> >>>>With a few "bought" Gentile politicians fronting for them, the
> >>>>foremost among these being New York's Senator Alphonse D'Amato,
> >>>>the Jews threatened Switzerland with a boycott by the U.S.
> >>>>government if their demands were not met. Instead of laughing in
> >>>>their faces, telling the Jews to go to hell, and gearing up for
> >>>>countermeasures against Israel and other Jewish interests if the
> >>>>Jews tried to proceed with a boycott, the Swiss politicians tried
> >>>>to placate the Jews by offering to buy themoff. The Jews took the
> >>>>Swiss response as a sign of weakness and escalated their demands.
> >>>>
> >>>>The average Swiss citizen seems to have a little more pride than
> >>>>Switzerland's elected officials, however, and resentment against
> >>>>the Jews' extortion efforts is building in Switzerland now to the
> >>>>point that some of that country's richest Jews are wearing
> >>>>bulletproof vests whenever they must go out in public.
> >>>>
> >>>>In general, however, this "Holocaust"-based extortion racket
> >>>>works quite well for the Jews, and they have expanded their
> >>>>demands for World War Two reparations to include a number of
> >>>>other countries besides Switzerland. They are even whining that
> >>>>the Vatican owes them because Pope Pius XII didn't do enough to
> >>>>save them from the Germans during the war. The Jews' brazenness
> >>>>in this whole business is quite breathtaking.
> >>>>
> >>>>Their brazenness, of course, is justified, because by and large
> >>>>they have been getting away with it. And they have been getting
> >>>>away with it because with their media control they have been able
> >>>>to distort the general public's whole perception of what happened
> >>>>during the Second World War. They have been able to portray
> >>>>themselves as innocent victims and just about everyone else as
> >>>>persecutors and aggressors, even the people who were fighting on
> >>>>the Jewish side against the Germans during the war. For example,
> >>>>they have done quite a bit of whining that after the Red Army
> >>>>drove the Germans from Poland, the Poles took the opportunity to
> >>>>lynch hundreds of Jews in 1945 and 1946: Jews whom the Germans
> >>>>somehow had failed to get rid of during their wartime occupation
> >>>>of Poland.
> >>>>
> >>>>Now, why would the Poles do something like that? Why would they
> >>>>lynch the poor Jews, who had been on their side during the war?
> >>>>If you learned about the war from watching Steven Spielberg
> >>>>propaganda films and other mass-media sources, you probably
> >>>>believe that it was because of religious anti-Semitism on the
> >>>>part of the Catholic Poles. Let me tell you the real reason why
> >>>>so many Poles hated Jews after the war. It's something the
> >>>>Jew-controlled media in America have tried hard to keep covered
> >>>>up. Let me tell you about what happened in the Katyn forest
> >>>>in 1940.
> >>>>
> >>>>In September 1939 Poland was invaded from the west by Germany and
> >>>>from the east by the Soviet Union. The Germans wanted back the
> >>>>territory in western Poland, including the city of Danzig, which
> >>>>had been taken from them at the end of the First World War. The
> >>>>Soviets wanted eastern Poland. The Germans and the Soviets
> >>>>divided Poland between them, with the boundary running roughly
> >>>>along the River Bug.
> >>>>
> >>>>Britain and France, both under strong Jewish pressure, declared
> >>>>war on Germany in September 1939, ostensibly because of Germany's
> >>>>invasion of Poland. They did not declare war on the Soviet Union,
> >>>>which also had invaded Poland. In the United States and in
> >>>>western Europe, where the Jews held a deathgrip on the mass
> >>>>media, a great deal of anti-German propaganda was based on the
> >>>>German grab for Polish territory -- much of which, of course,
> >>>>actually was historically German territory -- and nothing was
> >>>>said of the Soviet occupation and annexation of eastern Poland.
> >>>>
> >>>>The reason for this anti-German and pro-Soviet bias by the Jewish
> >>>>media was that the Jews were riding high in the Soviet Union as
> >>>>commissars and communist party bosses under Stalin, while in
> >>>>Germany Hitler had undertaken a program since 1933 of freeing
> >>>>Germany from all Jewish influence. Jews had been weeded out of
> >>>>the media, the law, the schools, and other areas of economic and
> >>>>cultural life in Germany. Before Hitler became chancellor in 1933
> >>>>the Jews had done in Germany what they do in every country where
> >>>>they gain a foothold: they had monopolized large sections of the
> >>>>mass media and certain professions and were doing their best to
> >>>>distort German culture, German society, and the German economy
> >>>>to suit themselves. Hitler put a stop to that, and two-thirds of
> >>>>the 1933 Jewish population of Germany had emigrated by the
> >>>>invasion of Poland in September 1939. So the Jews hated Germany
> >>>>and were determined to do whatever they could to destroy her.
> >>>>
> >>>>For his part, Hitler hoped to avoid war with Britain and France.
> >>>>He hoped that after his quick victory in western Poland he could
> >>>>make peace with Britain and France. He was determined, however,
> >>>>to stamp out communism wherever he encountered it. Not only did
> >>>>he hate communism on ideological grounds, but he had sworn to
> >>>>fight communism when the communists in Germany betrayed his
> >>>>country at the end of the First World War. Hitler also saw the
> >>>>Soviet Union as a threat to all of Europe, and he was determined
> >>>>to break the power of that country when he could, even though
> >>>>there was an uneasy non-aggression pact between Germany and the
> >>>>Soviet Union in 1939, at the time of their partition of Poland.
> >>>>
> >>>>In the spring of 1941 massive troop movements and other
> >>>>developments inside the Soviet Union convinced Hitler that Stalin
> >>>>was preparing to invade the west with the Red Army, and so in
> >>>>June 1941 Hitler made a preemptive strike. German forces smashed
> >>>>through the Red Army and made rapid advances, first through
> >>>>Soviet-occupied eastern Poland and then through Ukraine and into
> >>>>Russia.
> >>>>
> >>>>A year and a half later, in February 1943, German forces near
> >>>>Smolensk, in western Russia, investigated reports they heard from
> >>>>Russian civilians to the effect that a large number of prisoners
> >>>>had been murdered by the Soviet secret police in the area nearly
> >>>>three years earlier. The German investigators were led by local
> >>>>Russians to a series of mounds in a wooded area known locally as
> >>>>Katyn Forest, about 10 miles west of Smolensk. The forest is
> >>>>named for a village, Katyn, which it surrounds. The forest had
> >>>>been privately owned prior to the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917,
> >>>>but after the communist takeover of Russia the area had been
> >>>>confiscated by the government and part of the forest had been
> >>>>turned over to the NKVD, the Soviet equivalent of the American
> >>>>FBI.
> >>>>
> >>>>The Germans began digging in the mounds in the Katyn forest and
> >>>>made a horrible discovery. They found corpse after corpse, each
> >>>>with its hands bound behind its back and a bullet hole in the
> >>>>base of its skull. They continued their excavations for more than
> >>>>a month, and eventually uncovered more than 4,000 corpses. Other
> >>>>bodies may have remained buried in other mounds, but the Germans
> >>>>had no time to dig up the whole forest. Instead they called in
> >>>>the International Red Cross and representatives of various
> >>>>neutral countries to examine their findings. They also brought in
> >>>>groups of Allied prisoners of war, including Americans, from
> >>>>prison camps in Germany to view the graves in the Katyn forest.
> >>>>They gave these international inspectors complete freedom to
> >>>>examine the exhumed bodies, permitted doctors among them to
> >>>>conduct autopsies, even allowed them to dig up other bodies from
> >>>>one of the mounds which had not been completely excavated. The
> >>>>Germans asked only that the inspectors report back truthfully to
> >>>>their own governments about their observations. And in fact, most
> >>>>of them did.
> >>>>
> >>>>What they reported was that the bodies were those of Polish
> >>>>military officers, along with a number of civilian cultural and
> >>>>business leaders and intellectuals -- scientists, writers, poets
> >>>>-- who had been in the portion of Poland occupied by the Soviet
> >>>>Union in September 1939. Altogether the Soviet secret police had
> >>>>rounded up some 15,000 Polish leaders in 1939 -- including nearly
> >>>>half of the entire Polish officer's corps, the half that had had
> >>>>the misfortune of being in eastern Poland at the time -- and put
> >>>>them in three concentration camps in Russia: at Starobelsk,
> >>>>Kozelsk, and Ostashkov. All of the bodies unearthed in the
> >>>>Katyn forest were of Polish leaders who had been confined at one
> >>>>of these camps: Starobelsk.
> >>>>
> >>>>Rounding up a country's leaders and killing them was standard
> >>>>practice for the communists. The theory was that the leaders were
> >>>>bourgeois oppressors of the working class and deserved to die. As
> >>>>egalitarians the communists did not regard the Polish officers
> >>>>and intellectuals as inherently better or more valuable human
> >>>>material than the average Polish criminal or welfare bum; the
> >>>>officers had simply used their class advantage to gain a better
> >>>>life-style for themselves. Of course, no one really believed that
> >>>>theory except the criminals and welfare bums and other resentful
> >>>>losers and ne'er-do-wells who made up the natural communist
> >>>>constituency. As a practical matter, however, killing all the
> >>>>leaders and potential leaders of a conquered people made them
> >>>>easier to govern. That's what the Marxists had done in Russia,
> >>>>Ukraine, and the Baltic countries.
> >>>>
> >>>>In the case of the Poles there was a bit of a diplomatic problem,
> >>>>though. The Poles supported the war Britain and France had
> >>>>declared against Germany, purportedly on their behalf, because
> >>>>they viewed that as their one hope for getting back at least the
> >>>>western part of their country. They were not happy about the
> >>>>Russians taking the eastern part of Poland, but the Russians at
> >>>>least were fellow Slavs. The thing to do was get rid of the
> >>>>Germans first and then worry about the Russians. This Polish
> >>>>strategy suited Stalin fine. But it made it desirable for him to
> >>>>avoid alienating the Poles any more than necessary. When Polish
> >>>>exiles asked about their imprisoned leaders in late 1939 and
> >>>>early 1940, the Soviet government promised that they would be
> >>>>released shortly. Meanwhile, the decision had been made to kill
> >>>>all of them. And so in April 1940 the Polish leaders were taken
> >>>>from the three camps where they had been imprisoned, trucked off
> >>>>to various liquidation sites, and murdered. The ones who had been
> >>>>imprisoned at Starobelsk all went to the NKVD area of the Katyn
> >>>>forest. After the war some of the NKVD executioners were
> >>>>interviewed in Israel and described how they had carried out the
> >>>>killings.
> >>>>
> >>>>The Poles were driven up to the burial pits in long NKVD prison
> >>>>trucks known as "black ravens." They were pulled from the trucks
> >>>>one at a time by NKVD guards. Each Polish prisoner had his hands
> >>>>bound behind his back and then was dragged to the edge of a pit.
> >>>>There he was held by two NKVD men while a third fired a pistol
> >>>>bullet into the back of his head. Some of the officers had had
> >>>>their coats pulled over their heads to keep them from seeing what
> >>>>was happening before they were shot. Some struggled and were
> >>>>bayonetted by NKVD guards before being shot and thrown into the
> >>>>pit. When all of the officers from Starobelsk had been killed,
> >>>>some 4,400 of them, the Katyn forest burial pits were covered
> >>>>with dirt and pine trees were planted on them. The locations of
> >>>>the mass graves of the prisoners from the camps at Kozelsk and
> >>>>Ostashkov remain unknown, but none of the 15,000 Polish officers
> >>>>and intellectuals rounded up by the NKVD in September 1939 was
> >>>>seen alive after April 1940.
> >>>>
> >>>>The Red Cross representatives and the Allied prisoners the
> >>>>Germans brought in to examine the mass graves in the Katyn forest
> >>>>understood after their examination not only who had been killed;
> >>>>they also understood who had killed them. This was apparent not
> >>>>only from the medical estimates of the length of time the bodies
> >>>>had been buried, but also from documentary evidence on the
> >>>>bodies. Diaries, news clippings, letters, and other personal
> >>>>papers removed from the clothing of the victims all told the same
> >>>>story: the latest dates on any of these papers were from
> >>>>mid-April 1940. The Polish leaders had been killed in April 1940,
> >>>>when they were prisoners of the Soviet Union and when the Katyn
> >>>>region was under Soviet control. And this is what they reported
> >>>>back to their governments.
> >>>>
> >>>>So what do you think happened? Were the British and American
> >>>>governments horrified to discover that their "gallant Soviet
> >>>>ally," as the Soviet Union was referred to by the mass media, was
> >>>>a mass murderer? Did the British government, which had gone to
> >>>>war against Germany under the pretext of defending Poland, decide
> >>>>that it had made a mistake? Did anyone condemn the Soviet Union
> >>>>for this act of genocide against the Poles?
> >>>>
> >>>>Of course not! The Allied governments ordered their people who
> >>>>had inspected the Katyn site to keep their mouths shut, and the
> >>>>Jewish media immediately began announcing that the Germans had
> >>>>done it. A mass murder of Polish officers and intellectuals by
> >>>>the Nazis had been discovered in the Katyn forest, the New York
> >>>>Times and the rest of the Jewish media shrieked. Poor Poles!
> >>>>Wicked Germans! The war must go on to free the poor Poles and
> >>>>punish the wicked Germans. And the war did go on, killing
> >>>>millions of more Germans, British, Americans, and other
> >>>>Europeans. And the Germans were indeed punished. The Poles, of
> >>>>course, were not freed. Instead they were turned over to the
> >>>>Reds, who had butchered their leaders in the Katyn forest, and
> >>>>made to suffer under communist rule for half a century.
> >>>>
> >>>>The war went on after the German discovery of the mass graves in
> >>>>the Katyn forest, because its purpose from the beginning was not
> >>>>to free Poland but to destroy Germany, which had dared to free
> >>>>itself from the Jews. Roosevelt understood this. Churchill
> >>>>understood this. But the American and British people didn't
> >>>>understand it, of course, because they were lied to by the Jewish
> >>>>media and by their own governments, who in 1943 as in 1998 have
> >>>>done whatever has been politically expedient. And what has been
> >>>>politically expedient has been what the Jewish media bosses have
> >>>>decided.
> >>>>
> >>>>The lies about Katyn were maintained by the media for some years
> >>>>after the end of the war, because these lies meshed nicely with
> >>>>the "Holocaust" story which was making so much money for the
> >>>>Jews. Nowadays, of course, the truth about the Katyn murders is
> >>>>generally accepted by historians everywhere. You can go into
> >>>>almost any large library and read about it and even see the
> >>>>gruesome photographs that the Germans took of the Polish bodies
> >>>>they dug up. One of several authoritative books on the subject is
> >>>>J.K. Zawodny's Death in the Forest: the Story of the Katyn
> >>>>Forest Massacre, published in 1962 by the University of Notre
> >>>>Dame Press. None of this is publicized a la Steven Spielberg, of
> >>>>course, for the illumination of American television audiences. It
> >>>>still might undermine the Jews' "Holocaust" racket.
> >>>>
> >>>>In 1945 and 1946, although the deceived citizens of the western
> >>>>world didn't know the truth about Katyn, Polish patriots did. The
> >>>>word had gotten back to the Polish prisoners in German camps from
> >>>>the Poles the Germans had taken to examine the graves. After the
> >>>>war, when these Polish prisoners were freed, the word spread to
> >>>>other Poles. They knew that it was the communists, not the Nazis,
> >>>>who had murdered their leaders, who had beheaded their nation.
> >>>>And they knew who was behind communism, from the Jew Karl Marx,
> >>>>who had started the whole business, up to the Jewish commissars
> >>>>who lorded it over them in Soviet-occupied Poland. They knew who
> >>>>had welcomed their Soviet conquerors and then collaborated with
> >>>>those conquerors. And so it is hardly surprising that in 1945 and
> >>>>1946 a few Polish patriots organized lynchings of Jews in Poland,
> >>>>before the Reds had a chance to clamp down on all of Poland and
> >>>>suppress any further expressions of anti-communist or anti-Jewish
> >>>>feeling.
> >>>>
> >>>>No, the Polish dislike of Jews isn't surprising. What is
> >>>>surprising is that so few patriots in America and Britain have
> >>>>expressed their outrage against the Jews, not only for what they
> >>>>did to the Poles during and after the war, but for what they have
> >>>>done to us: lying to us and using us to wage their wars for them.
> >>>>If patriots study the Katyn story and take its lesson to heart,
> >>>>they will understand why they cannot trust either the mass media
> >>>>or any government which dances to the tune played by the media.
> >>>>Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill were as much liars and
> >>>>traitors as Bill Clinton and Tony Blair.
> >>>>
> >>>>Anyway, you might remember Katyn the next time you hear the Jews
> >>>>or some of their bought politicians whining about how much gold
> >>>>was stolen from them by the Swiss or how badly the Poles and the
> >>>>Germans treated them during the Second World War.
> >>>>
> >>>>The text above is based on a broadcast of the American Dissident
> >>>>Voices radio program sponsored by National Vanguard Books. To
> >>>>receive weekly ADV transcripts, mail: ADVlist@ListServe.com
> >>>>Write "subscribe" as the subject of your message.
> >>>>
> >>>>++++++++++++++
> >>>>
> >>>>American Renaissance
> >>>>http://www.amren.com
> >>>>
> >>>>Campaign for Radical Truth in History
> >>>>http://www.hoffman-info.com
> >>>>
> >>>>Euro-American Students Union
> >>>>http://esu.simplenet.com
> >>>>
> >>>>Katja Lane's Fourteen Word Press
> >>>>http://www.14words.com
> >>>>
> >>>>National Alliance
> >>>>http://www.natvan.com
> >>>>
> >>>>Stormfront
> >>>>http://www.stormfront.org
> >>>>
> >>>>Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library
> >>>>http://www.ddc.net/ygg


From stpaul@roma.org Sun Jan  3 20:39:01 EST 1999
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On Wed, 16 Dec 1998 14:33:14 GMT, dcohen@chambre.com wrote:
>On 14 Dec 1998 05:44:48, nikst@glasnet.ru wrote:
>>Reply-To: 
>>From: "nikst" 
>>Subject: THE TORONTO SUN: Remembering Ukraine's Unknown Holocaust
>>Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 04:47:59 +0300

>>THE TORONTO SUN, Sunday, December 13, 1998

>>Remembering Ukraine's Unknown Holocaust

>>By ERIC MARGOLIS
>>Contributing Foreign Editor

>>As Britain's socialist government cleared the way for a gaudy show 
>>trial of that Great Satan of the left, Chile's Gen. Augusto Pinochet, 
>>the 65th anniversary of this century's bloodiest crime was utterly 
>>ignored. Leftists now baying for Pinochet's head don't want to be 
>>reminded of the Unknown Holocaust.

>>In 1932, Soviet leader Josef Stalin unleashed genocide in
>>Ukraine. Stalin determined to force Ukraine's millions of independent
>>farmers - called kulaks - into collectivized Soviet agriculture, and to
>>crush Ukraine's growing spirit of nationalism.

>> Faced by resistance to collectivization, Stalin unleashed
>>terror and dispatched 25,000 fanatical young party militants from 
>>Moscow
>>- earlier versions of Mao's Red Guards - to force 10 million Ukrainian
>>peasants into collective farms. Secret police units of OGPU began
>>selective executions of recalcitrant farmers.

>>When Stalin's red guards failed to make a dent in this immense number, 
>>OGPU was ordered to begin mass executions. But there were simply not 
>>enough Chekists (secret police) to kill so many people, so Stalin 
>>decided to replace bullets with a much cheaper medium of death - mass
>>starvation.

>>All seed stocks, grain, silage and farm animals were
>>confiscated from Ukraine's farms. (Ethiopia's Communist dictator
>>Mengistu Haile Mariam used the same method in the 1970s to force
>>collectivization: the resulting famine cased one million deaths.)

>>OGPU agents and Red Army troops sealed all roads and rail
>>lines. Nothing came in or out of Ukraine. Farms were searched and 
>>looted of food and fuel. Ukrainians quickly began to die of hunger, 
>>cold and sickness.

>>When OGPU failed to meet weekly execution quotas, Stalin sent
>>henchman Lazar Kaganovitch to destroy Ukrainian resistance. 
>>Kaganovitch, the Soviet Eichmann, made quota, shooting 10,000 
>>Ukrainians weekly. Eighty percent of all Ukrainian intellectuals were 
>>executed. A Ukrainian party member named Nikita Khruschchev helped 
>>supervise the slaughter.

>>During the bitter winter of 1932-33, mass starvation created
>>by Kaganovitch and OGPU hit full force. Ukrainians ate their pets, 
>>boots and belts, plus bark and roots. Some parents even ate infant 
>>children.

>>The precise number of Ukrainians murdered by Stalin's
>>custom-made famine and Cheka firing squads remains unknown to this day.
>>The KGB's archives, and recent work by Russian historians, show at 
>>least seven million died. Ukrainian historians put the figure at nine 
>>million, or higher. Twenty-five percent of Ukraine's population was 
>>exterminated.

>>Millions of victims

>>Six million other farmers across the USSR were starved or shot
>>during collectivization. Stalin told Winston Churchill he liquidated 10
>>million peasants during the 1930s. Add mass executions by the Cheka in
>>Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania; the genocide of three million Muslims in
>>the USSR; massacres of Cossacks and Volga Germans and Soviet industrial
>>genocide accounted for at least 40 million victims, not including 20
>>million war dead.

>>Kaganovitch and many senior OGPU officers (later, NKVD) were
>>Jewish. The predominance of Jews among Bolshevik leaders, and the
>>frightful crimes and cruelty inflicted by Stalin's Cheka on Ukraine, 
>>the Baltic states and Poland, led the victims of Red Terror to blame 
>>the Jewish people for both communism and their suffering. 

>When even a Jew writer admits the truth, perhaps Christmas is near??


>As a direct
>>result, during the subsequent Nazi occupation of Eastern Europe, the
>>region's innocent Jews became the target of ferocious revenge by
>>Ukrainians, Balts and Poles.

>>While the world is by now fully aware of the destruction of
>>Europe's Jews by the Nazis, the story of the numerically larger
>>holocaust in Ukraine has been suppressed, or ignored. Ukraine's 
>>genocide occurred 8-9 years before Hitler began the Jewish Holocaust, 
>>and was committed, unlike Nazi crimes, before the world's gaze. But 
>>Stalin's murder of millions was simply denied, or concealed by a 
>>left-wing conspiracy of silence that continues to this day. In the 
>>strange moral geometry of mass murder, only Nazis are guilty.

>>Socialist luminaries like Bernard Shaw, Beatrice and Sidney
>>Webb and PM Edouard Herriot of France, toured Ukraine during 1932-33 
>>and proclaimed reports of famine were false. Shaw announced: "I did not 
>>see one under-nourished person in Russia." New York Times correspondent
>>Walter Duranty, who won a Pulitzer Prize for his Russian reporting,
>>wrote claims of famine were "malignant propaganda." Seven million 
>>people were dying around them, yet these fools saw nothing. The New 
>>York Times has never repudiated Duranty's lies.

>>Modern leftists do not care to be reminded their ideological
>>and historical roots are entwined with this century's greatest crime -
>>the inevitable result of enforced social engineering and Marxist
>>theology.

>>Western historians delicately skirt the sordid fact that the
>>governments of Britain, the U.S. and Canada were fully aware of the
>>Ukrainian genocide and Stalin's other monstrous crimes. Yet they 
>>eagerly welcomed him as an ally during World War II. Stalin, who 
>>Franklin Roosevelt called "Uncle Joe," murdered four times more people 
>>than Adolf Hitler.

>>None of the Soviet mass murderers who committed genocide were
>>ever brought to justice. Lazar Kaganovitch died peacefully in Moscow a
>>few years ago, still wearing his Order of the Soviet Union, and 
>>enjoying a generous state pension.

>>Eric can be reached by e-mail at: margolis@foreigncorrespondent.com.

>>Letters to the editor should be sent to: editor@sunpub.com.





From chiffre@chambre.com Sun Jan  3 20:39:10 EST 1999
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Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the 
more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions 
"smells" of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted "on behalf 
of all fellow  taxpayers,except the favoured few."

Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
the 
Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the 
more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions 
"smells" of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted "on behalf 
of all fellow  taxpayers,except the favoured few."


On 12 Apr 1998 22:36:43 -0700, kmcvay@nanaimo.island.net (Ken McVay)
wrote:
>In article   wrote:

>>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!


Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in

Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
BRONFMAN JEWS!!!
 
In fact Revenue Canada officials had decided 12 December 1991 that the

Bronfmans were supposed to pay their taxes on this money!!!

George Harris, according to CP, is claiming that the Auditor General
of Canada  in May 1996, exposed the fact that the JEW Bronfmans did
not pay their taxes on the 2.2 Billion, thereby cheating the tax
department out of " hundreds of millions of dollars"!!!

Harris is fighting for the rights of all non-JEW taxpayers on this
issue.

He is quoted as saying, according to CP:"He will be helping to sustain
public confidence in our income tax system, as well as the
administration of justice generally."




Could it be that the goy-boy Oyvay finally got kicked out of NIZKOR, 
since the Bnai Brith could no longer stand the heat of the
investigations for tax fraud?

Did the IRS and Revenue Canada taxation finally get fed up with the
multi-million dollar 
FRAUD by OyVay??

Is that why the filthy pervert OyVay is now in hiding back in
Nanaimo???

Is OyVay back to being a "gas station attendant" for his living, or is
it again on welfare??



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On Sat, 02 Jan 1999 22:22:15 -0500, ramcke  wrote:

>
>
>Rainer Joswig wrote:
>
>> In article <36922cf6.1058917@news.sprint.ca>, stpaul@roma.org wrote:
>>
>> > On 1 Jan 1999 18:06:41 GMT, kmcvay (Kenneth McVay SOBC) the
>> > shabbas-goy for the JEWS, wanted to tell the truth, as follows:
>> >
>> >
>> > My thanks to you for reposting this article.
>> > A brilliant truthful piece.
>> >
>> > Ed Kadach
>>
>> Post Nazi lies somewhere else. Not in soc.culture.german.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> --
>> http://www.lavielle.com/~joswig
>
>What's your problem?  The Poles and Russians have acknowledged the
>Polish murders in the Katyn Forest were committed by the Russina Army,

It seems that the JEWS want to ignore the fact that it was JEW KGB who
murdered the Polish soldiers!!!


The same as Israel refusing to extradite the Polish War Criminal to
face trial in Poland!!!
>not the Nazi's.



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On Sun, 03 Jan 1999 16:56:11 GMT, chiffre@chambre.com wrote:

>Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
>the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the 
>more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

>Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions 
>"smells" of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

>Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted "on behalf 
>of all fellow  taxpayers,except the favoured few."

>Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
>the  Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the 
>more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

>Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions 
>"smells" of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

>Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted "on behalf 
>of all fellow  taxpayers,except the favoured few."


>On 12 Apr 1998 22:36:43 -0700, kmcvay@nanaimo.island.net (Ken McVay)
>wrote:
>>In article   wrote:

>>>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>>>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>>>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!


>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!

>In fact Revenue Canada officials had decided 12 December 1991 that the
>Bronfmans were supposed to pay their taxes on this money!!!

>George Harris, according to CP, is claiming that the Auditor General
>of Canada  in May 1996, exposed the fact that the JEW Bronfmans did
>not pay their taxes on the 2.2 Billion, thereby cheating the tax
>department out of " hundreds of millions of dollars"!!!

>Harris is fighting for the rights of all non-JEW taxpayers on this
>issue.

>He is quoted as saying, according to CP:"He will be helping to sustain
>public confidence in our income tax system, as well as the
>administration of justice generally."


>Could it be that the goy-boy Oyvay finally got kicked out of NIZKOR, 
>since the Bnai Brith could no longer stand the heat of the
>investigations for tax fraud?

>Did the IRS and Revenue Canada taxation finally get fed up with the
>multi-million dollar  FRAUD by OyVay??

>Is that why the filthy pervert OyVay is now in hiding back in
>Nanaimo???

>Is OyVay back to being a "gas station attendant" for his living, or is
>it again on welfare??


Guess even the shabbas-goy OyVay couldn't stop the Federal Court!!!


From stpaul@roma.org Sun Jan  3 20:39:17 EST 1999
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Those who wish to support the Christkillers, the cursed JEWS, also
wish to rewrite history.

They do not want the present survivors around the world to remember
that 100 million have been killed in the last 80 years by the JEW-led
communists!! This is well documented in the recently released book in
France.


On Sat, 22 Nov 1997 10:42:52 +0800, Aduru  wrote:

>Another Zaphod wrote:
>the
>> only famous American who was anti-Semitic, because there were many of
>> the most powerful rich industrialists and politicians of that time who
>> shared his opinions.  And by the way they also didn't like Africans or
>> Chinese or American Indians.  So what?  What does the rantings of a
>> long-dead car maker have to do with the situation in Malaysia today?
>
>Oh boy.. whoever told you it has anything to do with the "situation in
>Malaysia today"! What's a fact is that Jews create troubles wherever
>they are, to the whites, blacks, browns and yellows. Until you get this
>right, you're fooling yourself.
>
>Aduru



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Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the
more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions "smells"
of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted "on behalf of all
fellow  taxpayers,except the favoured few."


On 12 Apr 1998 22:36:43 -0700, kmcvay@nanaimo.island.net (Ken McVay)
wrote:

>>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!


Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
BRONFMAN JEWS!!!
 
In fact Revenue Canada officials had decided 12 december 1991 that the
Bronfmans were supposed to pay their taxes on this money!!!

George Harris, according to CP, is claiming that the Auditor General
of Canada  in May 1996, exposed the fact that the JEW Bronfmans did
not pay their taxes on the 2.2 Billion, thereby cheating the tax
department out of " hundreds of millions of dollars"!!!

Harris is fighting for the rights of all  non-JEW taxpayers on this
issue.

He is quoted as saying, according to CP:"He will be helping to sustain
public confidence in our income tax system, as well as the
administration of justice generally."


Could it be that the goy-boy Oyvay finally got kicked out of NIZKOR,
since the Bnai Brith could no longer stand the heat of the
investigations for tax fraud?/

Did the IRS and Revenue Canada taxation finally get fed up with the
multi-million dollar FRAUD by OyVay??

Is that why the filthy pervert OyVay is now in hiding back in
Nanaimo???

Is OyVay back to being a "gas station attendant" for his living, or is
it again on welfare???


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On 3 Jan 1999 07:36:56 GMT, kmcvay (Kenneth McVay SOBC) wrote:

>In article <368EBF91.81EC86BB@coqui.net>,
>Martin Goldstein   wrote:
>
>>Does it also follow that ALL christians "lust for lesbianism/faggots
>>because some
>>christian priests and ministers also perform same-sex marriages?

Rest of article follows, for normal people to read.

In Canada a JEW Rabbi now wants to perform ILLEGAL marriages of
faggots and lezzies. Story follows:
On Sat, 26 Dec 1998 19:04:05 GMT, kenmaggot@nazikor.niz.org wrote:

>In a move sure to anger orthodox Jews, as well as normal humans, newspapers
>across Canada report that a Winnipeg synagogue will perform marriages
>of same sex persons.

>This, even though there is no law in Canada permitting this!!!

>Rabbi Michael  Levenson of Temple Shalom admits that his actions are
>illegal. 


If his actions are illegal, why don't the authorities send him to
jail??


>He is quoted as saying that his ceremonies will be recognised
>from a religious point of view, not a political one. Levenson alleges
>that members of his temple supposedly supported his action.  However,
>even normal Jews are criticising this action. It seems that what this
>Jew is doing, is NOT acceptable, according to the Torah.


No wonder people think of the jews as mainly sodomites.




On Sun, 27 Dec 1998 05:45:47 +0000, Claymore
 wrote:

>All LEZZAS are Hate filled Bigoted Scum, just like faggots and should be
>GASSED !.

>In article <75ultu$2r0@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>, Israel Schiff
> writes
>>On Mon, 23 Dec 1996, Elazar wrote: "For my Jewish brethren searching for a
>>Biblical basis for sanctioning homosexuality, I provide you with words from
>>Rabbis Marc Angel, Hillel Goldberg and Pinchas Stopler in their joint
>>article published in the Winter, 1992-93 edition of Jewish Action Magazine;"
>>Well, here's another viewpoint: Bible Review, December 1993, p. 11 DOES THE
>>BIBLE PROHIBIT HOMOSEXUALITY? by Rabbi Jacob Milgrom: "The Biblical
>>prohibition is addressed only to Israel. It is incorrect to apply it on a
>>universal scale.
>>This past Yom Kippur, September 25, 1993, my synagogue invited me to explain
>>the afternoon scriptural reading, the list of forbidden sexual liaisons in
>>Leviticus 18. I chose to focus on what is today one of the most frequently
>>quoted passages in the entire Bible, "Do not lie with a male as one lies
>>with a woman, it is an abomination" (Leviticus 18:22).
>>
>>What I said may be both good news and bad news to my Christian friends,
>>depending on their position on gay and lesbian rights. This Biblical
>>prohibition is addressed only to the Jews. Non-Jews are affected only if
>>they reside in the Holy Land, but not elsewhere (see the closing exhortation
>>in Leviticus 18, verses 24-30). Thus, it is incorrect to apply this
>>prohibition on a universal scale.
>>
>>But I spoke to my fellow Jews, who are required to observe this prohibition.
>>What is the rationale for this prohibition? In a previous column, I noted
>>that the Bible's impurity rules are part of a symbol system representing the
>>forces of life and death. Israel is required to avoid these impurities and
>>adhere to the laws commanded by God, who promotes the forces of life. Thus
>>in the same chapter we read, "You shall heed my statutes and my rules, by
>>doing them one shall live" (Leviticus 18:5). A man who discharges semen,
>>whether intentionally or otherwise, is declared impure and must purify
>>himself by bathing (a sort of re-baptism) before he is permitted to enter
>>the Temple or touch sacred (sacrificial) food (Leviticus 15:16-18). Why?
>>Because semen stands for life, and the loss of semen symbolizes the loss of
>>life.
>>
>>Note also that in the entire list of forbidden sexual unions, THERE IS NO
>>PROHIBITION AGAINST LESBIANISM. Can it be that lesbianism did not exist in
>>ancient times or that Scripture was unaware of its existence? Lesbians
>>existed and flourished, as attested in an old (pre-Israelite)
>>
>>Babylonian text and in the work of the lesbian poet Sappho (born c. 612
>>B.C.E., during the time of the First Temple), who came from the island of
>>Lesbos (hence lesbianism). But there is a fundamental difference between the
>>homosexual acts of men and women. IN LESBIANISM THERE IS NO SPILLING OF
>>SEED. Thus life is not symbolically lost, and therefore lesbianism is not
>>prohibited in the Bible.
>>
>>My argument ostensibly can be countered by a more comprehensive biblical
>>injunction. The very first commandment, given to Adam and repeated to Noah,
>>is "Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth" (Genesis 1:28 and Genesis
>>9:1,7). The descendants of Noah--the entire human race--are duty-bound to
>>fulfill this commandment. But the truth is that we have not only filled the
>>earth, we have over-filled it. This does not mean, however, that the
>>commandment should be thought of as no longer in force--especially among
>>Jews, who have lost a third of their members in our lifetime. I recall an
>>incident during a premarital interview from the early years of my rabbinate.
>>The starry-eyed bride declared her noble intention to have twelve children
>>to compensate for the tragic loss of six million killed in the Holocaust. I
>>gasped, "Must you do it all by yourself?"
>>
>>I have since come to regret my flippant reply. This couple regarded their
>>forthcoming marriage as a sacrament not just between themselves, but with
>>the >Jewish people. The problem has worsened for American Jews. Because
>>intermarriage is rife and the Jewish birth rate is low, American Jewry, once
>>at zero population growth, has dipped into the minus column. Were it not for
>>a steady stream of converts, the extinction of American Jewry would be even
>>more imminent. For us the divine command, "Be fruitful and multiply" is
>>truly in force.
>>
>>To Jewish homosexuals I offer an unoriginal solution. As compensation for
>>your loss of seed, adopt children. Although adoption was practiced in the
>>ancient world (as attested in Babylonian law), there is no Biblical
>>procedure or institution of adoption. As a result the institution of
>>adoption is absent from rabbinic jurisprudence. Yet there are isolated cases
>>of a kind of pseudo-adoption in the Bible. For example, Abraham, long
>>childless, complains to God that Eliezer of Damascus, his steward, will
>>inherit him (Genesis 15:2). And barren Rachel beseeches her husband Jacob,
>>"Here is my maid Bilhah--go into her that she may bear on my knees and that
>>through her I too may have children" (Genesis 30:3). Adoption is certainly a
>>possibility today.
>>
>>Lesbian couples have an additional advantage. Not only do they not violate
>>biblical law, but through artificial insemination each can become the
>>natural mother of her children.
>>
>>Thus from the Bible we can infer the following: Lesbians, presumably half of
>>the world's homosexual population, are not mentioned. More than ninety-nine
>>percent of the gays, namely non-Jews, are not addressed. This leaves the
>>small number of male Jewish gays subject to this >prohibition. If they are
>>biologically or psychologically incapable of procreation, adoption provides
>>a solution. I hope the Eternal, in love and compassion, will then reckon
>>their spilled seed as producing fruit. Jacob Milgrom." (Bible Review, a
>>publication of the Biblical Archeology Society 3000 Connecticut Avenue NW,
>>Suite 300, Washington DC 20008, 202 387 8888




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On 1 Jan 1999 18:06:41 GMT, kmcvay (Kenneth McVay SOBC) the
shabbas-goy for the JEWS, wanted to tell the truth, as follows:


My thanks to you for reposting this article.
A brilliant truthful piece.

Ed Kadach


mahdi@alahram.com wrote:
> 

> >>On Sun, 19 Jul 1998 22:06:50 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
> >>>On 1 May 1998 13:08:00 +0200, Irmin@nsm.htp.org wrote:
> >
> >>>>American Dissident Voices Broadcast of April 25, 1998
> >>>>
> >>>>Katyn
> >>>>by Dr. William Pierce
> >>>>
> >>>>A background noise that seems never to go away is the constant
> >>>>whining and yammering of the Jews about how the world owes them a
> >>>>living because of their losses during the so-called "Holocaust."
> >>>>They do it, of course, because they make such a big profit on it.
> >>>>The latest flare-up of this Jewish play for a handout came more
> >>>>than a year ago when they began demanding that the Swiss pay them
> >>>>$7 billion, which "Holocaust" victims allegedly had stashed in
> >>>>numbered Swiss accounts before being hauled off to gas chambers
> >>>>during the Second World War.
> >>>>
> >>>>With a few "bought" Gentile politicians fronting for them, the
> >>>>foremost among these being New York's Senator Alphonse D'Amato,
> >>>>the Jews threatened Switzerland with a boycott by the U.S.
> >>>>government if their demands were not met. Instead of laughing in
> >>>>their faces, telling the Jews to go to hell, and gearing up for
> >>>>countermeasures against Israel and other Jewish interests if the
> >>>>Jews tried to proceed with a boycott, the Swiss politicians tried
> >>>>to placate the Jews by offering to buy themoff. The Jews took the
> >>>>Swiss response as a sign of weakness and escalated their demands.
> >>>>
> >>>>The average Swiss citizen seems to have a little more pride than
> >>>>Switzerland's elected officials, however, and resentment against
> >>>>the Jews' extortion efforts is building in Switzerland now to the
> >>>>point that some of that country's richest Jews are wearing
> >>>>bulletproof vests whenever they must go out in public.
> >>>>
> >>>>In general, however, this "Holocaust"-based extortion racket
> >>>>works quite well for the Jews, and they have expanded their
> >>>>demands for World War Two reparations to include a number of
> >>>>other countries besides Switzerland. They are even whining that
> >>>>the Vatican owes them because Pope Pius XII didn't do enough to
> >>>>save them from the Germans during the war. The Jews' brazenness
> >>>>in this whole business is quite breathtaking.
> >>>>
> >>>>Their brazenness, of course, is justified, because by and large
> >>>>they have been getting away with it. And they have been getting
> >>>>away with it because with their media control they have been able
> >>>>to distort the general public's whole perception of what happened
> >>>>during the Second World War. They have been able to portray
> >>>>themselves as innocent victims and just about everyone else as
> >>>>persecutors and aggressors, even the people who were fighting on
> >>>>the Jewish side against the Germans during the war. For example,
> >>>>they have done quite a bit of whining that after the Red Army
> >>>>drove the Germans from Poland, the Poles took the opportunity to
> >>>>lynch hundreds of Jews in 1945 and 1946: Jews whom the Germans
> >>>>somehow had failed to get rid of during their wartime occupation
> >>>>of Poland.
> >>>>
> >>>>Now, why would the Poles do something like that? Why would they
> >>>>lynch the poor Jews, who had been on their side during the war?
> >>>>If you learned about the war from watching Steven Spielberg
> >>>>propaganda films and other mass-media sources, you probably
> >>>>believe that it was because of religious anti-Semitism on the
> >>>>part of the Catholic Poles. Let me tell you the real reason why
> >>>>so many Poles hated Jews after the war. It's something the
> >>>>Jew-controlled media in America have tried hard to keep covered
> >>>>up. Let me tell you about what happened in the Katyn forest
> >>>>in 1940.
> >>>>
> >>>>In September 1939 Poland was invaded from the west by Germany and
> >>>>from the east by the Soviet Union. The Germans wanted back the
> >>>>territory in western Poland, including the city of Danzig, which
> >>>>had been taken from them at the end of the First World War. The
> >>>>Soviets wanted eastern Poland. The Germans and the Soviets
> >>>>divided Poland between them, with the boundary running roughly
> >>>>along the River Bug.
> >>>>
> >>>>Britain and France, both under strong Jewish pressure, declared
> >>>>war on Germany in September 1939, ostensibly because of Germany's
> >>>>invasion of Poland. They did not declare war on the Soviet Union,
> >>>>which also had invaded Poland. In the United States and in
> >>>>western Europe, where the Jews held a deathgrip on the mass
> >>>>media, a great deal of anti-German propaganda was based on the
> >>>>German grab for Polish territory -- much of which, of course,
> >>>>actually was historically German territory -- and nothing was
> >>>>said of the Soviet occupation and annexation of eastern Poland.
> >>>>
> >>>>The reason for this anti-German and pro-Soviet bias by the Jewish
> >>>>media was that the Jews were riding high in the Soviet Union as
> >>>>commissars and communist party bosses under Stalin, while in
> >>>>Germany Hitler had undertaken a program since 1933 of freeing
> >>>>Germany from all Jewish influence. Jews had been weeded out of
> >>>>the media, the law, the schools, and other areas of economic and
> >>>>cultural life in Germany. Before Hitler became chancellor in 1933
> >>>>the Jews had done in Germany what they do in every country where
> >>>>they gain a foothold: they had monopolized large sections of the
> >>>>mass media and certain professions and were doing their best to
> >>>>distort German culture, German society, and the German economy
> >>>>to suit themselves. Hitler put a stop to that, and two-thirds of
> >>>>the 1933 Jewish population of Germany had emigrated by the
> >>>>invasion of Poland in September 1939. So the Jews hated Germany
> >>>>and were determined to do whatever they could to destroy her.
> >>>>
> >>>>For his part, Hitler hoped to avoid war with Britain and France.
> >>>>He hoped that after his quick victory in western Poland he could
> >>>>make peace with Britain and France. He was determined, however,
> >>>>to stamp out communism wherever he encountered it. Not only did
> >>>>he hate communism on ideological grounds, but he had sworn to
> >>>>fight communism when the communists in Germany betrayed his
> >>>>country at the end of the First World War. Hitler also saw the
> >>>>Soviet Union as a threat to all of Europe, and he was determined
> >>>>to break the power of that country when he could, even though
> >>>>there was an uneasy non-aggression pact between Germany and the
> >>>>Soviet Union in 1939, at the time of their partition of Poland.
> >>>>
> >>>>In the spring of 1941 massive troop movements and other
> >>>>developments inside the Soviet Union convinced Hitler that Stalin
> >>>>was preparing to invade the west with the Red Army, and so in
> >>>>June 1941 Hitler made a preemptive strike. German forces smashed
> >>>>through the Red Army and made rapid advances, first through
> >>>>Soviet-occupied eastern Poland and then through Ukraine and into
> >>>>Russia.
> >>>>
> >>>>A year and a half later, in February 1943, German forces near
> >>>>Smolensk, in western Russia, investigated reports they heard from
> >>>>Russian civilians to the effect that a large number of prisoners
> >>>>had been murdered by the Soviet secret police in the area nearly
> >>>>three years earlier. The German investigators were led by local
> >>>>Russians to a series of mounds in a wooded area known locally as
> >>>>Katyn Forest, about 10 miles west of Smolensk. The forest is
> >>>>named for a village, Katyn, which it surrounds. The forest had
> >>>>been privately owned prior to the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917,
> >>>>but after the communist takeover of Russia the area had been
> >>>>confiscated by the government and part of the forest had been
> >>>>turned over to the NKVD, the Soviet equivalent of the American
> >>>>FBI.
> >>>>
> >>>>The Germans began digging in the mounds in the Katyn forest and
> >>>>made a horrible discovery. They found corpse after corpse, each
> >>>>with its hands bound behind its back and a bullet hole in the
> >>>>base of its skull. They continued their excavations for more than
> >>>>a month, and eventually uncovered more than 4,000 corpses. Other
> >>>>bodies may have remained buried in other mounds, but the Germans
> >>>>had no time to dig up the whole forest. Instead they called in
> >>>>the International Red Cross and representatives of various
> >>>>neutral countries to examine their findings. They also brought in
> >>>>groups of Allied prisoners of war, including Americans, from
> >>>>prison camps in Germany to view the graves in the Katyn forest.
> >>>>They gave these international inspectors complete freedom to
> >>>>examine the exhumed bodies, permitted doctors among them to
> >>>>conduct autopsies, even allowed them to dig up other bodies from
> >>>>one of the mounds which had not been completely excavated. The
> >>>>Germans asked only that the inspectors report back truthfully to
> >>>>their own governments about their observations. And in fact, most
> >>>>of them did.
> >>>>
> >>>>What they reported was that the bodies were those of Polish
> >>>>military officers, along with a number of civilian cultural and
> >>>>business leaders and intellectuals -- scientists, writers, poets
> >>>>-- who had been in the portion of Poland occupied by the Soviet
> >>>>Union in September 1939. Altogether the Soviet secret police had
> >>>>rounded up some 15,000 Polish leaders in 1939 -- including nearly
> >>>>half of the entire Polish officer's corps, the half that had had
> >>>>the misfortune of being in eastern Poland at the time -- and put
> >>>>them in three concentration camps in Russia: at Starobelsk,
> >>>>Kozelsk, and Ostashkov. All of the bodies unearthed in the
> >>>>Katyn forest were of Polish leaders who had been confined at one
> >>>>of these camps: Starobelsk.
> >>>>
> >>>>Rounding up a country's leaders and killing them was standard
> >>>>practice for the communists. The theory was that the leaders were
> >>>>bourgeois oppressors of the working class and deserved to die. As
> >>>>egalitarians the communists did not regard the Polish officers
> >>>>and intellectuals as inherently better or more valuable human
> >>>>material than the average Polish criminal or welfare bum; the
> >>>>officers had simply used their class advantage to gain a better
> >>>>life-style for themselves. Of course, no one really believed that
> >>>>theory except the criminals and welfare bums and other resentful
> >>>>losers and ne'er-do-wells who made up the natural communist
> >>>>constituency. As a practical matter, however, killing all the
> >>>>leaders and potential leaders of a conquered people made them
> >>>>easier to govern. That's what the Marxists had done in Russia,
> >>>>Ukraine, and the Baltic countries.
> >>>>
> >>>>In the case of the Poles there was a bit of a diplomatic problem,
> >>>>though. The Poles supported the war Britain and France had
> >>>>declared against Germany, purportedly on their behalf, because
> >>>>they viewed that as their one hope for getting back at least the
> >>>>western part of their country. They were not happy about the
> >>>>Russians taking the eastern part of Poland, but the Russians at
> >>>>least were fellow Slavs. The thing to do was get rid of the
> >>>>Germans first and then worry about the Russians. This Polish
> >>>>strategy suited Stalin fine. But it made it desirable for him to
> >>>>avoid alienating the Poles any more than necessary. When Polish
> >>>>exiles asked about their imprisoned leaders in late 1939 and
> >>>>early 1940, the Soviet government promised that they would be
> >>>>released shortly. Meanwhile, the decision had been made to kill
> >>>>all of them. And so in April 1940 the Polish leaders were taken
> >>>>from the three camps where they had been imprisoned, trucked off
> >>>>to various liquidation sites, and murdered. The ones who had been
> >>>>imprisoned at Starobelsk all went to the NKVD area of the Katyn
> >>>>forest. After the war some of the NKVD executioners were
> >>>>interviewed in Israel and described how they had carried out the
> >>>>killings.
> >>>>
> >>>>The Poles were driven up to the burial pits in long NKVD prison
> >>>>trucks known as "black ravens." They were pulled from the trucks
> >>>>one at a time by NKVD guards. Each Polish prisoner had his hands
> >>>>bound behind his back and then was dragged to the edge of a pit.
> >>>>There he was held by two NKVD men while a third fired a pistol
> >>>>bullet into the back of his head. Some of the officers had had
> >>>>their coats pulled over their heads to keep them from seeing what
> >>>>was happening before they were shot. Some struggled and were
> >>>>bayonetted by NKVD guards before being shot and thrown into the
> >>>>pit. When all of the officers from Starobelsk had been killed,
> >>>>some 4,400 of them, the Katyn forest burial pits were covered
> >>>>with dirt and pine trees were planted on them. The locations of
> >>>>the mass graves of the prisoners from the camps at Kozelsk and
> >>>>Ostashkov remain unknown, but none of the 15,000 Polish officers
> >>>>and intellectuals rounded up by the NKVD in September 1939 was
> >>>>seen alive after April 1940.
> >>>>
> >>>>The Red Cross representatives and the Allied prisoners the
> >>>>Germans brought in to examine the mass graves in the Katyn forest
> >>>>understood after their examination not only who had been killed;
> >>>>they also understood who had killed them. This was apparent not
> >>>>only from the medical estimates of the length of time the bodies
> >>>>had been buried, but also from documentary evidence on the
> >>>>bodies. Diaries, news clippings, letters, and other personal
> >>>>papers removed from the clothing of the victims all told the same
> >>>>story: the latest dates on any of these papers were from
> >>>>mid-April 1940. The Polish leaders had been killed in April 1940,
> >>>>when they were prisoners of the Soviet Union and when the Katyn
> >>>>region was under Soviet control. And this is what they reported
> >>>>back to their governments.
> >>>>
> >>>>So what do you think happened? Were the British and American
> >>>>governments horrified to discover that their "gallant Soviet
> >>>>ally," as the Soviet Union was referred to by the mass media, was
> >>>>a mass murderer? Did the British government, which had gone to
> >>>>war against Germany under the pretext of defending Poland, decide
> >>>>that it had made a mistake? Did anyone condemn the Soviet Union
> >>>>for this act of genocide against the Poles?
> >>>>
> >>>>Of course not! The Allied governments ordered their people who
> >>>>had inspected the Katyn site to keep their mouths shut, and the
> >>>>Jewish media immediately began announcing that the Germans had
> >>>>done it. A mass murder of Polish officers and intellectuals by
> >>>>the Nazis had been discovered in the Katyn forest, the New York
> >>>>Times and the rest of the Jewish media shrieked. Poor Poles!
> >>>>Wicked Germans! The war must go on to free the poor Poles and
> >>>>punish the wicked Germans. And the war did go on, killing
> >>>>millions of more Germans, British, Americans, and other
> >>>>Europeans. And the Germans were indeed punished. The Poles, of
> >>>>course, were not freed. Instead they were turned over to the
> >>>>Reds, who had butchered their leaders in the Katyn forest, and
> >>>>made to suffer under communist rule for half a century.
> >>>>
> >>>>The war went on after the German discovery of the mass graves in
> >>>>the Katyn forest, because its purpose from the beginning was not
> >>>>to free Poland but to destroy Germany, which had dared to free
> >>>>itself from the Jews. Roosevelt understood this. Churchill
> >>>>understood this. But the American and British people didn't
> >>>>understand it, of course, because they were lied to by the Jewish
> >>>>media and by their own governments, who in 1943 as in 1998 have
> >>>>done whatever has been politically expedient. And what has been
> >>>>politically expedient has been what the Jewish media bosses have
> >>>>decided.
> >>>>
> >>>>The lies about Katyn were maintained by the media for some years
> >>>>after the end of the war, because these lies meshed nicely with
> >>>>the "Holocaust" story which was making so much money for the
> >>>>Jews. Nowadays, of course, the truth about the Katyn murders is
> >>>>generally accepted by historians everywhere. You can go into
> >>>>almost any large library and read about it and even see the
> >>>>gruesome photographs that the Germans took of the Polish bodies
> >>>>they dug up. One of several authoritative books on the subject is
> >>>>J.K. Zawodny's Death in the Forest: the Story of the Katyn
> >>>>Forest Massacre, published in 1962 by the University of Notre
> >>>>Dame Press. None of this is publicized a la Steven Spielberg, of
> >>>>course, for the illumination of American television audiences. It
> >>>>still might undermine the Jews' "Holocaust" racket.
> >>>>
> >>>>In 1945 and 1946, although the deceived citizens of the western
> >>>>world didn't know the truth about Katyn, Polish patriots did. The
> >>>>word had gotten back to the Polish prisoners in German camps from
> >>>>the Poles the Germans had taken to examine the graves. After the
> >>>>war, when these Polish prisoners were freed, the word spread to
> >>>>other Poles. They knew that it was the communists, not the Nazis,
> >>>>who had murdered their leaders, who had beheaded their nation.
> >>>>And they knew who was behind communism, from the Jew Karl Marx,
> >>>>who had started the whole business, up to the Jewish commissars
> >>>>who lorded it over them in Soviet-occupied Poland. They knew who
> >>>>had welcomed their Soviet conquerors and then collaborated with
> >>>>those conquerors. And so it is hardly surprising that in 1945 and
> >>>>1946 a few Polish patriots organized lynchings of Jews in Poland,
> >>>>before the Reds had a chance to clamp down on all of Poland and
> >>>>suppress any further expressions of anti-communist or anti-Jewish
> >>>>feeling.
> >>>>
> >>>>No, the Polish dislike of Jews isn't surprising. What is
> >>>>surprising is that so few patriots in America and Britain have
> >>>>expressed their outrage against the Jews, not only for what they
> >>>>did to the Poles during and after the war, but for what they have
> >>>>done to us: lying to us and using us to wage their wars for them.
> >>>>If patriots study the Katyn story and take its lesson to heart,
> >>>>they will understand why they cannot trust either the mass media
> >>>>or any government which dances to the tune played by the media.
> >>>>Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill were as much liars and
> >>>>traitors as Bill Clinton and Tony Blair.
> >>>>
> >>>>Anyway, you might remember Katyn the next time you hear the Jews
> >>>>or some of their bought politicians whining about how much gold
> >>>>was stolen from them by the Swiss or how badly the Poles and the
> >>>>Germans treated them during the Second World War.
> >>>>
> >>>>The text above is based on a broadcast of the American Dissident
> >>>>Voices radio program sponsored by National Vanguard Books. To
> >>>>receive weekly ADV transcripts, mail: ADVlist@ListServe.com
> >>>>Write "subscribe" as the subject of your message.
> >>>>
> >>>>++++++++++++++
> >>>>
> >>>>American Renaissance
> >>>>http://www.amren.com
> >>>>
> >>>>Campaign for Radical Truth in History
> >>>>http://www.hoffman-info.com
> >>>>
> >>>>Euro-American Students Union
> >>>>http://esu.simplenet.com
> >>>>
> >>>>Katja Lane's Fourteen Word Press
> >>>>http://www.14words.com
> >>>>
> >>>>National Alliance
> >>>>http://www.natvan.com
> >>>>
> >>>>Stormfront
> >>>>http://www.stormfront.org
> >>>>
> >>>>Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library
> >>>>http://www.ddc.net/ygg


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On Wed, 16 Dec 1998 14:33:14 GMT, dcohen@chambre.com wrote:
>On 14 Dec 1998 05:44:48, nikst@glasnet.ru wrote:
>>Reply-To: 
>>From: "nikst" 
>>Subject: THE TORONTO SUN: Remembering Ukraine's Unknown Holocaust
>>Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 04:47:59 +0300

>>THE TORONTO SUN, Sunday, December 13, 1998

>>Remembering Ukraine's Unknown Holocaust

>>By ERIC MARGOLIS
>>Contributing Foreign Editor

>>As Britain's socialist government cleared the way for a gaudy show 
>>trial of that Great Satan of the left, Chile's Gen. Augusto Pinochet, 
>>the 65th anniversary of this century's bloodiest crime was utterly 
>>ignored. Leftists now baying for Pinochet's head don't want to be 
>>reminded of the Unknown Holocaust.

>>In 1932, Soviet leader Josef Stalin unleashed genocide in
>>Ukraine. Stalin determined to force Ukraine's millions of independent
>>farmers - called kulaks - into collectivized Soviet agriculture, and to
>>crush Ukraine's growing spirit of nationalism.

>> Faced by resistance to collectivization, Stalin unleashed
>>terror and dispatched 25,000 fanatical young party militants from 
>>Moscow
>>- earlier versions of Mao's Red Guards - to force 10 million Ukrainian
>>peasants into collective farms. Secret police units of OGPU began
>>selective executions of recalcitrant farmers.

>>When Stalin's red guards failed to make a dent in this immense number, 
>>OGPU was ordered to begin mass executions. But there were simply not 
>>enough Chekists (secret police) to kill so many people, so Stalin 
>>decided to replace bullets with a much cheaper medium of death - mass
>>starvation.

>>All seed stocks, grain, silage and farm animals were
>>confiscated from Ukraine's farms. (Ethiopia's Communist dictator
>>Mengistu Haile Mariam used the same method in the 1970s to force
>>collectivization: the resulting famine cased one million deaths.)

>>OGPU agents and Red Army troops sealed all roads and rail
>>lines. Nothing came in or out of Ukraine. Farms were searched and 
>>looted of food and fuel. Ukrainians quickly began to die of hunger, 
>>cold and sickness.

>>When OGPU failed to meet weekly execution quotas, Stalin sent
>>henchman Lazar Kaganovitch to destroy Ukrainian resistance. 
>>Kaganovitch, the Soviet Eichmann, made quota, shooting 10,000 
>>Ukrainians weekly. Eighty percent of all Ukrainian intellectuals were 
>>executed. A Ukrainian party member named Nikita Khruschchev helped 
>>supervise the slaughter.

>>During the bitter winter of 1932-33, mass starvation created
>>by Kaganovitch and OGPU hit full force. Ukrainians ate their pets, 
>>boots and belts, plus bark and roots. Some parents even ate infant 
>>children.

>>The precise number of Ukrainians murdered by Stalin's
>>custom-made famine and Cheka firing squads remains unknown to this day.
>>The KGB's archives, and recent work by Russian historians, show at 
>>least seven million died. Ukrainian historians put the figure at nine 
>>million, or higher. Twenty-five percent of Ukraine's population was 
>>exterminated.

>>Millions of victims

>>Six million other farmers across the USSR were starved or shot
>>during collectivization. Stalin told Winston Churchill he liquidated 10
>>million peasants during the 1930s. Add mass executions by the Cheka in
>>Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania; the genocide of three million Muslims in
>>the USSR; massacres of Cossacks and Volga Germans and Soviet industrial
>>genocide accounted for at least 40 million victims, not including 20
>>million war dead.

>>Kaganovitch and many senior OGPU officers (later, NKVD) were
>>Jewish. The predominance of Jews among Bolshevik leaders, and the
>>frightful crimes and cruelty inflicted by Stalin's Cheka on Ukraine, 
>>the Baltic states and Poland, led the victims of Red Terror to blame 
>>the Jewish people for both communism and their suffering. 

>When even a Jew writer admits the truth, perhaps Christmas is near??


>As a direct
>>result, during the subsequent Nazi occupation of Eastern Europe, the
>>region's innocent Jews became the target of ferocious revenge by
>>Ukrainians, Balts and Poles.

>>While the world is by now fully aware of the destruction of
>>Europe's Jews by the Nazis, the story of the numerically larger
>>holocaust in Ukraine has been suppressed, or ignored. Ukraine's 
>>genocide occurred 8-9 years before Hitler began the Jewish Holocaust, 
>>and was committed, unlike Nazi crimes, before the world's gaze. But 
>>Stalin's murder of millions was simply denied, or concealed by a 
>>left-wing conspiracy of silence that continues to this day. In the 
>>strange moral geometry of mass murder, only Nazis are guilty.

>>Socialist luminaries like Bernard Shaw, Beatrice and Sidney
>>Webb and PM Edouard Herriot of France, toured Ukraine during 1932-33 
>>and proclaimed reports of famine were false. Shaw announced: "I did not 
>>see one under-nourished person in Russia." New York Times correspondent
>>Walter Duranty, who won a Pulitzer Prize for his Russian reporting,
>>wrote claims of famine were "malignant propaganda." Seven million 
>>people were dying around them, yet these fools saw nothing. The New 
>>York Times has never repudiated Duranty's lies.

>>Modern leftists do not care to be reminded their ideological
>>and historical roots are entwined with this century's greatest crime -
>>the inevitable result of enforced social engineering and Marxist
>>theology.

>>Western historians delicately skirt the sordid fact that the
>>governments of Britain, the U.S. and Canada were fully aware of the
>>Ukrainian genocide and Stalin's other monstrous crimes. Yet they 
>>eagerly welcomed him as an ally during World War II. Stalin, who 
>>Franklin Roosevelt called "Uncle Joe," murdered four times more people 
>>than Adolf Hitler.

>>None of the Soviet mass murderers who committed genocide were
>>ever brought to justice. Lazar Kaganovitch died peacefully in Moscow a
>>few years ago, still wearing his Order of the Soviet Union, and 
>>enjoying a generous state pension.

>>Eric can be reached by e-mail at: margolis@foreigncorrespondent.com.

>>Letters to the editor should be sent to: editor@sunpub.com.





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On Sat, 02 Jan 1999 22:22:15 -0500, ramcke  wrote:

>
>
>Rainer Joswig wrote:
>
>> In article <36922cf6.1058917@news.sprint.ca>, stpaul@roma.org wrote:
>>
>> > On 1 Jan 1999 18:06:41 GMT, kmcvay (Kenneth McVay SOBC) the
>> > shabbas-goy for the JEWS, wanted to tell the truth, as follows:
>> >
>> >
>> > My thanks to you for reposting this article.
>> > A brilliant truthful piece.
>> >
>> > Ed Kadach
>>
>> Post Nazi lies somewhere else. Not in soc.culture.german.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> --
>> http://www.lavielle.com/~joswig
>
>What's your problem?  The Poles and Russians have acknowledged the
>Polish murders in the Katyn Forest were committed by the Russina Army,

It seems that the JEWS want to ignore the fact that it was JEW KGB who
murdered the Polish soldiers!!!


The same as Israel refusing to extradite the Polish War Criminal to
face trial in Poland!!!
>not the Nazi's.


From stpaul@roma.org Sun Jan  3 20:40:51 EST 1999
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On 2 Jan 1999 02:54:40 -0700, gritpipe@nospam.compusmart.ab.ca wrote:

>On Thu, 31 Dec 1998 20:59:19, kmcvay@nanaimo.island.net (Ken McVay) wrote:
>
>> their "incineration" in the past... given that roughly 10% of our 
>> population is probably gay/lesbian,
>
>Pack of lies.  Try 2 to 3 percent.  Even these agendized groups of gays and 
>lesbians admit that the INFLATED 10 percent figure has been good for them 
>politically ...


Since when did you expect the shabbas-goy for the JEWS to ever tell
the truth???

The full text follows:

On Sat, 26 Dec 1998 19:04:05 GMT, kenmaggot@nazikor.niz.org wrote:

>In a move sure to anger orthodox Jews, as well as normal humans, newspapers
>across Canada report that a Winnipeg synagogue will perform marriages
>of same sex persons.

>This, even though there is no law in Canada permitting this!!!

>Rabbi Michael  Levenson of Temple Shalom admits that his actions are
>illegal. 


If his actions are illegal, why don't the authorities send him to
jail??


>He is quoted as saying that his ceremonies will be recognised
>from a religious point of view, not a political one. Levenson alleges
>that members of his temple supposedly supported his action.  However,
>even normal Jews are criticising this action. It seems that what this
>Jew is doing, is NOT acceptable, according to the Torah.


No wonder people think of the jews as mainly sodomites.


On Tue, 29 Dec 1998 00:41:36 -0500, "Phil Essing"
 wrote:

>Why do you hide your true identity and email?  Is it because you are ashamed
>of your own views?
>-Phil


>kenmaggot@nazikor.niz.org wrote in message
><368731fd.534720@news.sprint.ca>...
>>In amove sto anger orthodox Jews, as well as normal humans, newspapers
>>across Canada report that a Winnipeg synagogue will perform arriages
>>of same sex persons.

>>This, even though there is no law in Canada permitting this!!!

>>Rabbi Michael  Levenson of Temple Shalom admits that his actions are
>>illegal. He is quoted as saying that his ceremonies will be recognised
>>from a religious point of view, not a political one. Levenson alleges
>>that members of his temple supposedly supported his action.  However,
>>even normal Jews are criticising this action. It seems that what this
>>Jew is doing, is NOT acceptable, according to the Torah.



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On Fri, 25 Sep 1998 04:25:59 GMT, gaygoyken@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:
>On Thu, 24 Sep 1998 10:14:17, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:
>On Wed, 23 Sep 98 20:34:05 GMT, stgeorge@i-link-2.net (Real Name:)
>wrote:

>>     We need to re-orient it, though,
>>to the countless Aryan lives taken in
>>jewish contrived wars,
>
>>------------Reply Separator----------------
>>On 9/22/98 4:24PM, in message 
>><6u9eik$re9@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com>, NSWPP 
>> wrote:
>
>>FEATURE-Auschwitz remains troubled ground for Poland
>>By Sean Maguire
>>Sept. 14, 1998
>
>>OSWIECIM, Poland (Reuters) - An angry man waving a 
>>gasoline can, a barking
>>puppy and a teen-age boy guard dozens of wooden 
>>crosses erected in a grassy
>>pit outside the high brick walls of the former Nazi 
>>death camp of Auschwitz. 
>
>>Kazimierz Switon, a veteran anti-communist and 
>>radical Roman Catholic with a
>>history of anti-establishment gestures, has 
>>threatened to set himself on
>>fire if the Polish government tries to remove him 
>>and the crosses from the
>>sensitive site. 
>
>>From the bedraggled tent that is home to his 
>>campaign he has managed to give
>>the government an intractable problem, the latest to 
>>dog attempts to better
>>Poland's image abroad and improve relations between 
>>the country and Jewish
>>groups. 
>
>>``The conflict strikes a blow at Poland's interests 
>>and must be resolved as
>>swiftly as possible,'' prime ministerial adviser 
>>Agnieszka Magdziak
>>Miszewska told the Catholic news agency.  ``We are 
>>beginning to be perceived
>>as anarchistic xenophobes ruled by our emotions,'' 
>>she added. 
>
>>But even if the government quickly secures an 
>>eviction order against Switon,
>>the affair has stalled efforts to put the management 
>>of the Auschwitz
>>Birkenau complex on a firm footing and made further 
>>conflict over the tragic
>>site inevitable. 
>
>>DO'S AND DONT'S AT AUSCHWITZ 
>
>>At issue is the definition of what activity is 
>>appropriate at a place where
>>Nazi forces occupying Poland murdered up to 1.5 
>>million people, 90 percent
>>of them Jews, in World War II.  Papal intervention 
>>was needed to resolve a
>>dispute over the presence of a Carmelite convent, 
>>which was moved out, and a
>>crisis erupted over plans to put a supermarket near 
>>the site. 
>
>>The presence of any religious symbols at the largest 
>>graveyard of European
>>Jewry has been a particular irritant since Jewish 
>>groups regard them as a
>>violation of the commemorative character and dignity 
>>of the complex. 
>
>>Poland's center-right government scored a minor 
>>triumph in December when it
>>removed unauthorized Stars of David and crosses from 
>>the dumping ground for
>>human ashes at Birkenau. 
>
>>A discreet deal between the government and an 
>>international Jewish coalition
>>to remove a large cross under which Polish-born Pope 
>>John Paul prayed in
>>1979 came unstuck when press attention caused a 
>>nationalist uproar. 
>
>>Switon's campaign to protect that and other crosses 
>>is backed by an informal
>>alliance of right-wing clergy, radical worker 
>>groups, anti-Semitic skinheads
>>and nationalists. 
>
>>It received initial support from Polish Catholics 
>>with memories of Communist
>>prohibitions on crosses in public places and from 
>>patriots determined that
>>national suffering at Auschwitz, where thousands of 
>>Poles died, not be
>>forgotten. 
>
>>But Switon's support has ebbed since bishops and the 
>>government took the
>>compromise position that the papal cross should 
>>remain and all new crosses
>>be removed. 
>
>>A U.S-led international Jew coalition, which has 
>>broken off dialogue with
>>Poland until the new crosses are taken down, is 
>>unlikely to accept the papal
>>cross as a permanent presence. That issue, the 
>>presence of a church in an
>>old Nazi building near Birkenau and a recent 
>>decision to allow a parking lot
>>and shop near Auschwitz are the next obstacles to be 
>>negotiated. 
>
>>``The cross is a major problem,'' said Ralph 
>>Grunewald of the Holocaust
>>Memorial Museum in Washington. ``I don't know the 
>>answer but the cross, all
>>religious symbols, all post-period elements should 
>>be the subject of behind-
>>the-scene discussion.'' 
>
>>``We have to remove all the crosses that were put up 
>>to provoke the Jewish
>>community,'' said presidential advisor Marek Siwiec, 
>>``But I don't see any
>>chance to have a serious and moderate discussion 
>>about the papal cross at
>>the moment.'' 
>
>>POLISH DESIRE FOR DIALOGUE 
>
>>Polish officials are irritated that the Switon 
>>affair has stymied efforts to
>>sign a deal that would take the future of 
>>Auschwitz-Birkenau out of the
>>political arena. Mindful of its campaign to join 
>>NATO and the European Union
>>and anxious to expiate the guilt of a 1946 pogrom 
>>and an anti-Semitic
>>campaign in 1968, authorities have been working to 
>>improve ties with Israel
>>and the Jewish diaspora. 
>
>>President Alexander Kwasniewski proposed a 
>>renovation, preservation and
>>education program in 1996 and the state began work 
>>on costly local
>>improvement schemes that also benefited the adjacent 
>>run-down town of
>>Oswiecim. But a grander plan for the bleak sites in 
>>southwestern Poland, and
>>international funding, are on hold. 
>
>>The ambitious plan includes linking Auschwitz more 
>>directly to Birkenau, two
>>miles away. Birkenau, built explicitly as an 
>>extermination center and where
>>most Jews died, is harder to get to and visited less 
>>frequently. 
>
>>A new walkway could join the two sites, passing by 
>>the ``Judenrampe,'' the
>>railway siding where most of the Jews arriving from 
>>across Europe were
>>offloaded, which is now neglected and overgrown with 
>>weeds. The tracks
>>directly into Birkenau, familiar from photographs, 
>>were built in 1944 for
>>Hungarian Jewish transports in the last phase of the 
>>extermination campaign. 
>
>>``No. 1 is to preserve the site,'' said Miles 
>>Lerman, chairman of the U.S.
>>Holocaust Museum Council. ``We're talking about 
>>preserving barbed wire,
>>concrete, the crematories.'' 
>
>>A new visitors' center, educational efforts, a 
>>better defined protection
>>zone, ground rules for what commercial activity is 
>>permissible nearby and an
>>internationally accountable management board are 
>>also on the agenda. 
>
>>Despite the frosty climate the government has high 
>>hopes for a new law
>>taking all Nazi German camps on Polish territory out 
>>of local authority
>>control, meeting objections that they are sometimes 
>>managed parochially. The
>>law will cover camps where Polish political 
>>prisoners died and where
>>Hitler's troops implemented the ``Final Solution,'' 
>>wiping out most of
>>Poland's pre-war 3.3 million Jewish population. 
>
>>``I hope this law will be accepted by the main 
>>Jewish circles because its
>>absence was previously a barrier to creating 
>>dialogue,'' said Agnieszka
>>Magdziak-Miszewska. 
>
>>But officials accept that, despite good will and 
>>improving relations,
>>Polish- Jewish dialogue is still vulnerable. 
>
>>``We have to live with the fact that protests and 
>>controversies will be with
>>us for a long time,'' said Stanislaw Krajewski, a 
>>leader of Poland's tiny
>>Jewish community.
>
>
>Why should the cursed Christkillers dictate to the sovereign people
>of Poland, what Polish people may do in their own country??
>
>Why should the Polish people forget that it was the damned JEW-led KGB
>who murdered the 25000 Polish officers at KATYN??
>
>Why should the Polish people forget that it was the JEW-led soviets
>who occupied and enslaved the Christian Polish people??
>
>-88-



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On 1 Jan 1999 18:06:41 GMT, kmcvay (Kenneth McVay SOBC) the
shabbas-goy for the JEWS, wanted to tell the truth, as follows:


My thanks to you for reposting this article.
A brilliant truthful piece.

Ed Kadach


mahdi@alahram.com wrote:
> 

> >>On Sun, 19 Jul 1998 22:06:50 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
> >>>On 1 May 1998 13:08:00 +0200, Irmin@nsm.htp.org wrote:
> >
> >>>>American Dissident Voices Broadcast of April 25, 1998
> >>>>
> >>>>Katyn
> >>>>by Dr. William Pierce
> >>>>
> >>>>A background noise that seems never to go away is the constant
> >>>>whining and yammering of the Jews about how the world owes them a
> >>>>living because of their losses during the so-called "Holocaust."
> >>>>They do it, of course, because they make such a big profit on it.
> >>>>The latest flare-up of this Jewish play for a handout came more
> >>>>than a year ago when they began demanding that the Swiss pay them
> >>>>$7 billion, which "Holocaust" victims allegedly had stashed in
> >>>>numbered Swiss accounts before being hauled off to gas chambers
> >>>>during the Second World War.
> >>>>
> >>>>With a few "bought" Gentile politicians fronting for them, the
> >>>>foremost among these being New York's Senator Alphonse D'Amato,
> >>>>the Jews threatened Switzerland with a boycott by the U.S.
> >>>>government if their demands were not met. Instead of laughing in
> >>>>their faces, telling the Jews to go to hell, and gearing up for
> >>>>countermeasures against Israel and other Jewish interests if the
> >>>>Jews tried to proceed with a boycott, the Swiss politicians tried
> >>>>to placate the Jews by offering to buy themoff. The Jews took the
> >>>>Swiss response as a sign of weakness and escalated their demands.
> >>>>
> >>>>The average Swiss citizen seems to have a little more pride than
> >>>>Switzerland's elected officials, however, and resentment against
> >>>>the Jews' extortion efforts is building in Switzerland now to the
> >>>>point that some of that country's richest Jews are wearing
> >>>>bulletproof vests whenever they must go out in public.
> >>>>
> >>>>In general, however, this "Holocaust"-based extortion racket
> >>>>works quite well for the Jews, and they have expanded their
> >>>>demands for World War Two reparations to include a number of
> >>>>other countries besides Switzerland. They are even whining that
> >>>>the Vatican owes them because Pope Pius XII didn't do enough to
> >>>>save them from the Germans during the war. The Jews' brazenness
> >>>>in this whole business is quite breathtaking.
> >>>>
> >>>>Their brazenness, of course, is justified, because by and large
> >>>>they have been getting away with it. And they have been getting
> >>>>away with it because with their media control they have been able
> >>>>to distort the general public's whole perception of what happened
> >>>>during the Second World War. They have been able to portray
> >>>>themselves as innocent victims and just about everyone else as
> >>>>persecutors and aggressors, even the people who were fighting on
> >>>>the Jewish side against the Germans during the war. For example,
> >>>>they have done quite a bit of whining that after the Red Army
> >>>>drove the Germans from Poland, the Poles took the opportunity to
> >>>>lynch hundreds of Jews in 1945 and 1946: Jews whom the Germans
> >>>>somehow had failed to get rid of during their wartime occupation
> >>>>of Poland.
> >>>>
> >>>>Now, why would the Poles do something like that? Why would they
> >>>>lynch the poor Jews, who had been on their side during the war?
> >>>>If you learned about the war from watching Steven Spielberg
> >>>>propaganda films and other mass-media sources, you probably
> >>>>believe that it was because of religious anti-Semitism on the
> >>>>part of the Catholic Poles. Let me tell you the real reason why
> >>>>so many Poles hated Jews after the war. It's something the
> >>>>Jew-controlled media in America have tried hard to keep covered
> >>>>up. Let me tell you about what happened in the Katyn forest
> >>>>in 1940.
> >>>>
> >>>>In September 1939 Poland was invaded from the west by Germany and
> >>>>from the east by the Soviet Union. The Germans wanted back the
> >>>>territory in western Poland, including the city of Danzig, which
> >>>>had been taken from them at the end of the First World War. The
> >>>>Soviets wanted eastern Poland. The Germans and the Soviets
> >>>>divided Poland between them, with the boundary running roughly
> >>>>along the River Bug.
> >>>>
> >>>>Britain and France, both under strong Jewish pressure, declared
> >>>>war on Germany in September 1939, ostensibly because of Germany's
> >>>>invasion of Poland. They did not declare war on the Soviet Union,
> >>>>which also had invaded Poland. In the United States and in
> >>>>western Europe, where the Jews held a deathgrip on the mass
> >>>>media, a great deal of anti-German propaganda was based on the
> >>>>German grab for Polish territory -- much of which, of course,
> >>>>actually was historically German territory -- and nothing was
> >>>>said of the Soviet occupation and annexation of eastern Poland.
> >>>>
> >>>>The reason for this anti-German and pro-Soviet bias by the Jewish
> >>>>media was that the Jews were riding high in the Soviet Union as
> >>>>commissars and communist party bosses under Stalin, while in
> >>>>Germany Hitler had undertaken a program since 1933 of freeing
> >>>>Germany from all Jewish influence. Jews had been weeded out of
> >>>>the media, the law, the schools, and other areas of economic and
> >>>>cultural life in Germany. Before Hitler became chancellor in 1933
> >>>>the Jews had done in Germany what they do in every country where
> >>>>they gain a foothold: they had monopolized large sections of the
> >>>>mass media and certain professions and were doing their best to
> >>>>distort German culture, German society, and the German economy
> >>>>to suit themselves. Hitler put a stop to that, and two-thirds of
> >>>>the 1933 Jewish population of Germany had emigrated by the
> >>>>invasion of Poland in September 1939. So the Jews hated Germany
> >>>>and were determined to do whatever they could to destroy her.
> >>>>
> >>>>For his part, Hitler hoped to avoid war with Britain and France.
> >>>>He hoped that after his quick victory in western Poland he could
> >>>>make peace with Britain and France. He was determined, however,
> >>>>to stamp out communism wherever he encountered it. Not only did
> >>>>he hate communism on ideological grounds, but he had sworn to
> >>>>fight communism when the communists in Germany betrayed his
> >>>>country at the end of the First World War. Hitler also saw the
> >>>>Soviet Union as a threat to all of Europe, and he was determined
> >>>>to break the power of that country when he could, even though
> >>>>there was an uneasy non-aggression pact between Germany and the
> >>>>Soviet Union in 1939, at the time of their partition of Poland.
> >>>>
> >>>>In the spring of 1941 massive troop movements and other
> >>>>developments inside the Soviet Union convinced Hitler that Stalin
> >>>>was preparing to invade the west with the Red Army, and so in
> >>>>June 1941 Hitler made a preemptive strike. German forces smashed
> >>>>through the Red Army and made rapid advances, first through
> >>>>Soviet-occupied eastern Poland and then through Ukraine and into
> >>>>Russia.
> >>>>
> >>>>A year and a half later, in February 1943, German forces near
> >>>>Smolensk, in western Russia, investigated reports they heard from
> >>>>Russian civilians to the effect that a large number of prisoners
> >>>>had been murdered by the Soviet secret police in the area nearly
> >>>>three years earlier. The German investigators were led by local
> >>>>Russians to a series of mounds in a wooded area known locally as
> >>>>Katyn Forest, about 10 miles west of Smolensk. The forest is
> >>>>named for a village, Katyn, which it surrounds. The forest had
> >>>>been privately owned prior to the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917,
> >>>>but after the communist takeover of Russia the area had been
> >>>>confiscated by the government and part of the forest had been
> >>>>turned over to the NKVD, the Soviet equivalent of the American
> >>>>FBI.
> >>>>
> >>>>The Germans began digging in the mounds in the Katyn forest and
> >>>>made a horrible discovery. They found corpse after corpse, each
> >>>>with its hands bound behind its back and a bullet hole in the
> >>>>base of its skull. They continued their excavations for more than
> >>>>a month, and eventually uncovered more than 4,000 corpses. Other
> >>>>bodies may have remained buried in other mounds, but the Germans
> >>>>had no time to dig up the whole forest. Instead they called in
> >>>>the International Red Cross and representatives of various
> >>>>neutral countries to examine their findings. They also brought in
> >>>>groups of Allied prisoners of war, including Americans, from
> >>>>prison camps in Germany to view the graves in the Katyn forest.
> >>>>They gave these international inspectors complete freedom to
> >>>>examine the exhumed bodies, permitted doctors among them to
> >>>>conduct autopsies, even allowed them to dig up other bodies from
> >>>>one of the mounds which had not been completely excavated. The
> >>>>Germans asked only that the inspectors report back truthfully to
> >>>>their own governments about their observations. And in fact, most
> >>>>of them did.
> >>>>
> >>>>What they reported was that the bodies were those of Polish
> >>>>military officers, along with a number of civilian cultural and
> >>>>business leaders and intellectuals -- scientists, writers, poets
> >>>>-- who had been in the portion of Poland occupied by the Soviet
> >>>>Union in September 1939. Altogether the Soviet secret police had
> >>>>rounded up some 15,000 Polish leaders in 1939 -- including nearly
> >>>>half of the entire Polish officer's corps, the half that had had
> >>>>the misfortune of being in eastern Poland at the time -- and put
> >>>>them in three concentration camps in Russia: at Starobelsk,
> >>>>Kozelsk, and Ostashkov. All of the bodies unearthed in the
> >>>>Katyn forest were of Polish leaders who had been confined at one
> >>>>of these camps: Starobelsk.
> >>>>
> >>>>Rounding up a country's leaders and killing them was standard
> >>>>practice for the communists. The theory was that the leaders were
> >>>>bourgeois oppressors of the working class and deserved to die. As
> >>>>egalitarians the communists did not regard the Polish officers
> >>>>and intellectuals as inherently better or more valuable human
> >>>>material than the average Polish criminal or welfare bum; the
> >>>>officers had simply used their class advantage to gain a better
> >>>>life-style for themselves. Of course, no one really believed that
> >>>>theory except the criminals and welfare bums and other resentful
> >>>>losers and ne'er-do-wells who made up the natural communist
> >>>>constituency. As a practical matter, however, killing all the
> >>>>leaders and potential leaders of a conquered people made them
> >>>>easier to govern. That's what the Marxists had done in Russia,
> >>>>Ukraine, and the Baltic countries.
> >>>>
> >>>>In the case of the Poles there was a bit of a diplomatic problem,
> >>>>though. The Poles supported the war Britain and France had
> >>>>declared against Germany, purportedly on their behalf, because
> >>>>they viewed that as their one hope for getting back at least the
> >>>>western part of their country. They were not happy about the
> >>>>Russians taking the eastern part of Poland, but the Russians at
> >>>>least were fellow Slavs. The thing to do was get rid of the
> >>>>Germans first and then worry about the Russians. This Polish
> >>>>strategy suited Stalin fine. But it made it desirable for him to
> >>>>avoid alienating the Poles any more than necessary. When Polish
> >>>>exiles asked about their imprisoned leaders in late 1939 and
> >>>>early 1940, the Soviet government promised that they would be
> >>>>released shortly. Meanwhile, the decision had been made to kill
> >>>>all of them. And so in April 1940 the Polish leaders were taken
> >>>>from the three camps where they had been imprisoned, trucked off
> >>>>to various liquidation sites, and murdered. The ones who had been
> >>>>imprisoned at Starobelsk all went to the NKVD area of the Katyn
> >>>>forest. After the war some of the NKVD executioners were
> >>>>interviewed in Israel and described how they had carried out the
> >>>>killings.
> >>>>
> >>>>The Poles were driven up to the burial pits in long NKVD prison
> >>>>trucks known as "black ravens." They were pulled from the trucks
> >>>>one at a time by NKVD guards. Each Polish prisoner had his hands
> >>>>bound behind his back and then was dragged to the edge of a pit.
> >>>>There he was held by two NKVD men while a third fired a pistol
> >>>>bullet into the back of his head. Some of the officers had had
> >>>>their coats pulled over their heads to keep them from seeing what
> >>>>was happening before they were shot. Some struggled and were
> >>>>bayonetted by NKVD guards before being shot and thrown into the
> >>>>pit. When all of the officers from Starobelsk had been killed,
> >>>>some 4,400 of them, the Katyn forest burial pits were covered
> >>>>with dirt and pine trees were planted on them. The locations of
> >>>>the mass graves of the prisoners from the camps at Kozelsk and
> >>>>Ostashkov remain unknown, but none of the 15,000 Polish officers
> >>>>and intellectuals rounded up by the NKVD in September 1939 was
> >>>>seen alive after April 1940.
> >>>>
> >>>>The Red Cross representatives and the Allied prisoners the
> >>>>Germans brought in to examine the mass graves in the Katyn forest
> >>>>understood after their examination not only who had been killed;
> >>>>they also understood who had killed them. This was apparent not
> >>>>only from the medical estimates of the length of time the bodies
> >>>>had been buried, but also from documentary evidence on the
> >>>>bodies. Diaries, news clippings, letters, and other personal
> >>>>papers removed from the clothing of the victims all told the same
> >>>>story: the latest dates on any of these papers were from
> >>>>mid-April 1940. The Polish leaders had been killed in April 1940,
> >>>>when they were prisoners of the Soviet Union and when the Katyn
> >>>>region was under Soviet control. And this is what they reported
> >>>>back to their governments.
> >>>>
> >>>>So what do you think happened? Were the British and American
> >>>>governments horrified to discover that their "gallant Soviet
> >>>>ally," as the Soviet Union was referred to by the mass media, was
> >>>>a mass murderer? Did the British government, which had gone to
> >>>>war against Germany under the pretext of defending Poland, decide
> >>>>that it had made a mistake? Did anyone condemn the Soviet Union
> >>>>for this act of genocide against the Poles?
> >>>>
> >>>>Of course not! The Allied governments ordered their people who
> >>>>had inspected the Katyn site to keep their mouths shut, and the
> >>>>Jewish media immediately began announcing that the Germans had
> >>>>done it. A mass murder of Polish officers and intellectuals by
> >>>>the Nazis had been discovered in the Katyn forest, the New York
> >>>>Times and the rest of the Jewish media shrieked. Poor Poles!
> >>>>Wicked Germans! The war must go on to free the poor Poles and
> >>>>punish the wicked Germans. And the war did go on, killing
> >>>>millions of more Germans, British, Americans, and other
> >>>>Europeans. And the Germans were indeed punished. The Poles, of
> >>>>course, were not freed. Instead they were turned over to the
> >>>>Reds, who had butchered their leaders in the Katyn forest, and
> >>>>made to suffer under communist rule for half a century.
> >>>>
> >>>>The war went on after the German discovery of the mass graves in
> >>>>the Katyn forest, because its purpose from the beginning was not
> >>>>to free Poland but to destroy Germany, which had dared to free
> >>>>itself from the Jews. Roosevelt understood this. Churchill
> >>>>understood this. But the American and British people didn't
> >>>>understand it, of course, because they were lied to by the Jewish
> >>>>media and by their own governments, who in 1943 as in 1998 have
> >>>>done whatever has been politically expedient. And what has been
> >>>>politically expedient has been what the Jewish media bosses have
> >>>>decided.
> >>>>
> >>>>The lies about Katyn were maintained by the media for some years
> >>>>after the end of the war, because these lies meshed nicely with
> >>>>the "Holocaust" story which was making so much money for the
> >>>>Jews. Nowadays, of course, the truth about the Katyn murders is
> >>>>generally accepted by historians everywhere. You can go into
> >>>>almost any large library and read about it and even see the
> >>>>gruesome photographs that the Germans took of the Polish bodies
> >>>>they dug up. One of several authoritative books on the subject is
> >>>>J.K. Zawodny's Death in the Forest: the Story of the Katyn
> >>>>Forest Massacre, published in 1962 by the University of Notre
> >>>>Dame Press. None of this is publicized a la Steven Spielberg, of
> >>>>course, for the illumination of American television audiences. It
> >>>>still might undermine the Jews' "Holocaust" racket.
> >>>>
> >>>>In 1945 and 1946, although the deceived citizens of the western
> >>>>world didn't know the truth about Katyn, Polish patriots did. The
> >>>>word had gotten back to the Polish prisoners in German camps from
> >>>>the Poles the Germans had taken to examine the graves. After the
> >>>>war, when these Polish prisoners were freed, the word spread to
> >>>>other Poles. They knew that it was the communists, not the Nazis,
> >>>>who had murdered their leaders, who had beheaded their nation.
> >>>>And they knew who was behind communism, from the Jew Karl Marx,
> >>>>who had started the whole business, up to the Jewish commissars
> >>>>who lorded it over them in Soviet-occupied Poland. They knew who
> >>>>had welcomed their Soviet conquerors and then collaborated with
> >>>>those conquerors. And so it is hardly surprising that in 1945 and
> >>>>1946 a few Polish patriots organized lynchings of Jews in Poland,
> >>>>before the Reds had a chance to clamp down on all of Poland and
> >>>>suppress any further expressions of anti-communist or anti-Jewish
> >>>>feeling.
> >>>>
> >>>>No, the Polish dislike of Jews isn't surprising. What is
> >>>>surprising is that so few patriots in America and Britain have
> >>>>expressed their outrage against the Jews, not only for what they
> >>>>did to the Poles during and after the war, but for what they have
> >>>>done to us: lying to us and using us to wage their wars for them.
> >>>>If patriots study the Katyn story and take its lesson to heart,
> >>>>they will understand why they cannot trust either the mass media
> >>>>or any government which dances to the tune played by the media.
> >>>>Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill were as much liars and
> >>>>traitors as Bill Clinton and Tony Blair.
> >>>>
> >>>>Anyway, you might remember Katyn the next time you hear the Jews
> >>>>or some of their bought politicians whining about how much gold
> >>>>was stolen from them by the Swiss or how badly the Poles and the
> >>>>Germans treated them during the Second World War.
> >>>>
> >>>>The text above is based on a broadcast of the American Dissident
> >>>>Voices radio program sponsored by National Vanguard Books. To
> >>>>receive weekly ADV transcripts, mail: ADVlist@ListServe.com
> >>>>Write "subscribe" as the subject of your message.
> >>>>
> >>>>++++++++++++++
> >>>>
> >>>>American Renaissance
> >>>>http://www.amren.com
> >>>>
> >>>>Campaign for Radical Truth in History
> >>>>http://www.hoffman-info.com
> >>>>
> >>>>Euro-American Students Union
> >>>>http://esu.simplenet.com
> >>>>
> >>>>Katja Lane's Fourteen Word Press
> >>>>http://www.14words.com
> >>>>
> >>>>National Alliance
> >>>>http://www.natvan.com
> >>>>
> >>>>Stormfront
> >>>>http://www.stormfront.org
> >>>>
> >>>>Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library
> >>>>http://www.ddc.net/ygg


From stpaul@roma.org Sun Jan  3 20:40:53 EST 1999
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On Wed, 16 Dec 1998 14:33:14 GMT, dcohen@chambre.com wrote:
>On 14 Dec 1998 05:44:48, nikst@glasnet.ru wrote:
>>Reply-To: 
>>From: "nikst" 
>>Subject: THE TORONTO SUN: Remembering Ukraine's Unknown Holocaust
>>Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 04:47:59 +0300

>>THE TORONTO SUN, Sunday, December 13, 1998

>>Remembering Ukraine's Unknown Holocaust

>>By ERIC MARGOLIS
>>Contributing Foreign Editor

>>As Britain's socialist government cleared the way for a gaudy show 
>>trial of that Great Satan of the left, Chile's Gen. Augusto Pinochet, 
>>the 65th anniversary of this century's bloodiest crime was utterly 
>>ignored. Leftists now baying for Pinochet's head don't want to be 
>>reminded of the Unknown Holocaust.

>>In 1932, Soviet leader Josef Stalin unleashed genocide in
>>Ukraine. Stalin determined to force Ukraine's millions of independent
>>farmers - called kulaks - into collectivized Soviet agriculture, and to
>>crush Ukraine's growing spirit of nationalism.

>> Faced by resistance to collectivization, Stalin unleashed
>>terror and dispatched 25,000 fanatical young party militants from 
>>Moscow
>>- earlier versions of Mao's Red Guards - to force 10 million Ukrainian
>>peasants into collective farms. Secret police units of OGPU began
>>selective executions of recalcitrant farmers.

>>When Stalin's red guards failed to make a dent in this immense number, 
>>OGPU was ordered to begin mass executions. But there were simply not 
>>enough Chekists (secret police) to kill so many people, so Stalin 
>>decided to replace bullets with a much cheaper medium of death - mass
>>starvation.

>>All seed stocks, grain, silage and farm animals were
>>confiscated from Ukraine's farms. (Ethiopia's Communist dictator
>>Mengistu Haile Mariam used the same method in the 1970s to force
>>collectivization: the resulting famine cased one million deaths.)

>>OGPU agents and Red Army troops sealed all roads and rail
>>lines. Nothing came in or out of Ukraine. Farms were searched and 
>>looted of food and fuel. Ukrainians quickly began to die of hunger, 
>>cold and sickness.

>>When OGPU failed to meet weekly execution quotas, Stalin sent
>>henchman Lazar Kaganovitch to destroy Ukrainian resistance. 
>>Kaganovitch, the Soviet Eichmann, made quota, shooting 10,000 
>>Ukrainians weekly. Eighty percent of all Ukrainian intellectuals were 
>>executed. A Ukrainian party member named Nikita Khruschchev helped 
>>supervise the slaughter.

>>During the bitter winter of 1932-33, mass starvation created
>>by Kaganovitch and OGPU hit full force. Ukrainians ate their pets, 
>>boots and belts, plus bark and roots. Some parents even ate infant 
>>children.

>>The precise number of Ukrainians murdered by Stalin's
>>custom-made famine and Cheka firing squads remains unknown to this day.
>>The KGB's archives, and recent work by Russian historians, show at 
>>least seven million died. Ukrainian historians put the figure at nine 
>>million, or higher. Twenty-five percent of Ukraine's population was 
>>exterminated.

>>Millions of victims

>>Six million other farmers across the USSR were starved or shot
>>during collectivization. Stalin told Winston Churchill he liquidated 10
>>million peasants during the 1930s. Add mass executions by the Cheka in
>>Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania; the genocide of three million Muslims in
>>the USSR; massacres of Cossacks and Volga Germans and Soviet industrial
>>genocide accounted for at least 40 million victims, not including 20
>>million war dead.

>>Kaganovitch and many senior OGPU officers (later, NKVD) were
>>Jewish. The predominance of Jews among Bolshevik leaders, and the
>>frightful crimes and cruelty inflicted by Stalin's Cheka on Ukraine, 
>>the Baltic states and Poland, led the victims of Red Terror to blame 
>>the Jewish people for both communism and their suffering. 

>When even a Jew writer admits the truth, perhaps Christmas is near??


>As a direct
>>result, during the subsequent Nazi occupation of Eastern Europe, the
>>region's innocent Jews became the target of ferocious revenge by
>>Ukrainians, Balts and Poles.

>>While the world is by now fully aware of the destruction of
>>Europe's Jews by the Nazis, the story of the numerically larger
>>holocaust in Ukraine has been suppressed, or ignored. Ukraine's 
>>genocide occurred 8-9 years before Hitler began the Jewish Holocaust, 
>>and was committed, unlike Nazi crimes, before the world's gaze. But 
>>Stalin's murder of millions was simply denied, or concealed by a 
>>left-wing conspiracy of silence that continues to this day. In the 
>>strange moral geometry of mass murder, only Nazis are guilty.

>>Socialist luminaries like Bernard Shaw, Beatrice and Sidney
>>Webb and PM Edouard Herriot of France, toured Ukraine during 1932-33 
>>and proclaimed reports of famine were false. Shaw announced: "I did not 
>>see one under-nourished person in Russia." New York Times correspondent
>>Walter Duranty, who won a Pulitzer Prize for his Russian reporting,
>>wrote claims of famine were "malignant propaganda." Seven million 
>>people were dying around them, yet these fools saw nothing. The New 
>>York Times has never repudiated Duranty's lies.

>>Modern leftists do not care to be reminded their ideological
>>and historical roots are entwined with this century's greatest crime -
>>the inevitable result of enforced social engineering and Marxist
>>theology.

>>Western historians delicately skirt the sordid fact that the
>>governments of Britain, the U.S. and Canada were fully aware of the
>>Ukrainian genocide and Stalin's other monstrous crimes. Yet they 
>>eagerly welcomed him as an ally during World War II. Stalin, who 
>>Franklin Roosevelt called "Uncle Joe," murdered four times more people 
>>than Adolf Hitler.

>>None of the Soviet mass murderers who committed genocide were
>>ever brought to justice. Lazar Kaganovitch died peacefully in Moscow a
>>few years ago, still wearing his Order of the Soviet Union, and 
>>enjoying a generous state pension.

>>Eric can be reached by e-mail at: margolis@foreigncorrespondent.com.

>>Letters to the editor should be sent to: editor@sunpub.com.





From chiffre@chambre.com Sun Jan  3 20:41:03 EST 1999
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Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the 
more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions 
"smells" of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted "on behalf 
of all fellow  taxpayers,except the favoured few."

Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
the 
Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the 
more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions 
"smells" of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted "on behalf 
of all fellow  taxpayers,except the favoured few."


On 12 Apr 1998 22:36:43 -0700, kmcvay@nanaimo.island.net (Ken McVay)
wrote:
>In article   wrote:

>>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!


Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in

Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
BRONFMAN JEWS!!!
 
In fact Revenue Canada officials had decided 12 December 1991 that the

Bronfmans were supposed to pay their taxes on this money!!!

George Harris, according to CP, is claiming that the Auditor General
of Canada  in May 1996, exposed the fact that the JEW Bronfmans did
not pay their taxes on the 2.2 Billion, thereby cheating the tax
department out of " hundreds of millions of dollars"!!!

Harris is fighting for the rights of all non-JEW taxpayers on this
issue.

He is quoted as saying, according to CP:"He will be helping to sustain
public confidence in our income tax system, as well as the
administration of justice generally."




Could it be that the goy-boy Oyvay finally got kicked out of NIZKOR, 
since the Bnai Brith could no longer stand the heat of the
investigations for tax fraud?

Did the IRS and Revenue Canada taxation finally get fed up with the
multi-million dollar 
FRAUD by OyVay??

Is that why the filthy pervert OyVay is now in hiding back in
Nanaimo???

Is OyVay back to being a "gas station attendant" for his living, or is
it again on welfare??



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On Sat, 02 Jan 1999 22:22:15 -0500, ramcke  wrote:

>
>
>Rainer Joswig wrote:
>
>> In article <36922cf6.1058917@news.sprint.ca>, stpaul@roma.org wrote:
>>
>> > On 1 Jan 1999 18:06:41 GMT, kmcvay (Kenneth McVay SOBC) the
>> > shabbas-goy for the JEWS, wanted to tell the truth, as follows:
>> >
>> >
>> > My thanks to you for reposting this article.
>> > A brilliant truthful piece.
>> >
>> > Ed Kadach
>>
>> Post Nazi lies somewhere else. Not in soc.culture.german.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> --
>> http://www.lavielle.com/~joswig
>
>What's your problem?  The Poles and Russians have acknowledged the
>Polish murders in the Katyn Forest were committed by the Russina Army,

It seems that the JEWS want to ignore the fact that it was JEW KGB who
murdered the Polish soldiers!!!


The same as Israel refusing to extradite the Polish War Criminal to
face trial in Poland!!!
>not the Nazi's.



From stpaul@roma.org Sun Jan  3 20:41:07 EST 1999
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On Sun, 03 Jan 1999 16:56:11 GMT, chiffre@chambre.com wrote:

>Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
>the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the 
>more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

>Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions 
>"smells" of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

>Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted "on behalf 
>of all fellow  taxpayers,except the favoured few."

>Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
>the  Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the 
>more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

>Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions 
>"smells" of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

>Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted "on behalf 
>of all fellow  taxpayers,except the favoured few."


>On 12 Apr 1998 22:36:43 -0700, kmcvay@nanaimo.island.net (Ken McVay)
>wrote:
>>In article   wrote:

>>>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>>>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>>>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!


>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!

>In fact Revenue Canada officials had decided 12 December 1991 that the
>Bronfmans were supposed to pay their taxes on this money!!!

>George Harris, according to CP, is claiming that the Auditor General
>of Canada  in May 1996, exposed the fact that the JEW Bronfmans did
>not pay their taxes on the 2.2 Billion, thereby cheating the tax
>department out of " hundreds of millions of dollars"!!!

>Harris is fighting for the rights of all non-JEW taxpayers on this
>issue.

>He is quoted as saying, according to CP:"He will be helping to sustain
>public confidence in our income tax system, as well as the
>administration of justice generally."


>Could it be that the goy-boy Oyvay finally got kicked out of NIZKOR, 
>since the Bnai Brith could no longer stand the heat of the
>investigations for tax fraud?

>Did the IRS and Revenue Canada taxation finally get fed up with the
>multi-million dollar  FRAUD by OyVay??

>Is that why the filthy pervert OyVay is now in hiding back in
>Nanaimo???

>Is OyVay back to being a "gas station attendant" for his living, or is
>it again on welfare??


Guess even the shabbas-goy OyVay couldn't stop the Federal Court!!!


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From: stpaul@roma.org
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Those who wish to support the Christkillers, the cursed JEWS, also
wish to rewrite history.

They do not want the present survivors around the world to remember
that 100 million have been killed in the last 80 years by the JEW-led
communists!! This is well documented in the recently released book in
France.


On Sat, 22 Nov 1997 10:42:52 +0800, Aduru  wrote:

>Another Zaphod wrote:
>the
>> only famous American who was anti-Semitic, because there were many of
>> the most powerful rich industrialists and politicians of that time who
>> shared his opinions.  And by the way they also didn't like Africans or
>> Chinese or American Indians.  So what?  What does the rantings of a
>> long-dead car maker have to do with the situation in Malaysia today?
>
>Oh boy.. whoever told you it has anything to do with the "situation in
>Malaysia today"! What's a fact is that Jews create troubles wherever
>they are, to the whites, blacks, browns and yellows. Until you get this
>right, you're fooling yourself.
>
>Aduru



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Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the
more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions "smells"
of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted "on behalf of all
fellow  taxpayers,except the favoured few."


On 12 Apr 1998 22:36:43 -0700, kmcvay@nanaimo.island.net (Ken McVay)
wrote:

>>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!


Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
BRONFMAN JEWS!!!
 
In fact Revenue Canada officials had decided 12 december 1991 that the
Bronfmans were supposed to pay their taxes on this money!!!

George Harris, according to CP, is claiming that the Auditor General
of Canada  in May 1996, exposed the fact that the JEW Bronfmans did
not pay their taxes on the 2.2 Billion, thereby cheating the tax
department out of " hundreds of millions of dollars"!!!

Harris is fighting for the rights of all  non-JEW taxpayers on this
issue.

He is quoted as saying, according to CP:"He will be helping to sustain
public confidence in our income tax system, as well as the
administration of justice generally."


Could it be that the goy-boy Oyvay finally got kicked out of NIZKOR,
since the Bnai Brith could no longer stand the heat of the
investigations for tax fraud?/

Did the IRS and Revenue Canada taxation finally get fed up with the
multi-million dollar FRAUD by OyVay??

Is that why the filthy pervert OyVay is now in hiding back in
Nanaimo???

Is OyVay back to being a "gas station attendant" for his living, or is
it again on welfare???


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On 3 Jan 1999 07:36:56 GMT, kmcvay (Kenneth McVay SOBC) wrote:

>In article <368EBF91.81EC86BB@coqui.net>,
>Martin Goldstein   wrote:
>
>>Does it also follow that ALL christians "lust for lesbianism/faggots
>>because some
>>christian priests and ministers also perform same-sex marriages?

Rest of article follows, for normal people to read.

In Canada a JEW Rabbi now wants to perform ILLEGAL marriages of
faggots and lezzies. Story follows:
On Sat, 26 Dec 1998 19:04:05 GMT, kenmaggot@nazikor.niz.org wrote:

>In a move sure to anger orthodox Jews, as well as normal humans, newspapers
>across Canada report that a Winnipeg synagogue will perform marriages
>of same sex persons.

>This, even though there is no law in Canada permitting this!!!

>Rabbi Michael  Levenson of Temple Shalom admits that his actions are
>illegal. 


If his actions are illegal, why don't the authorities send him to
jail??


>He is quoted as saying that his ceremonies will be recognised
>from a religious point of view, not a political one. Levenson alleges
>that members of his temple supposedly supported his action.  However,
>even normal Jews are criticising this action. It seems that what this
>Jew is doing, is NOT acceptable, according to the Torah.


No wonder people think of the jews as mainly sodomites.




On Sun, 27 Dec 1998 05:45:47 +0000, Claymore
 wrote:

>All LEZZAS are Hate filled Bigoted Scum, just like faggots and should be
>GASSED !.

>In article <75ultu$2r0@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>, Israel Schiff
> writes
>>On Mon, 23 Dec 1996, Elazar wrote: "For my Jewish brethren searching for a
>>Biblical basis for sanctioning homosexuality, I provide you with words from
>>Rabbis Marc Angel, Hillel Goldberg and Pinchas Stopler in their joint
>>article published in the Winter, 1992-93 edition of Jewish Action Magazine;"
>>Well, here's another viewpoint: Bible Review, December 1993, p. 11 DOES THE
>>BIBLE PROHIBIT HOMOSEXUALITY? by Rabbi Jacob Milgrom: "The Biblical
>>prohibition is addressed only to Israel. It is incorrect to apply it on a
>>universal scale.
>>This past Yom Kippur, September 25, 1993, my synagogue invited me to explain
>>the afternoon scriptural reading, the list of forbidden sexual liaisons in
>>Leviticus 18. I chose to focus on what is today one of the most frequently
>>quoted passages in the entire Bible, "Do not lie with a male as one lies
>>with a woman, it is an abomination" (Leviticus 18:22).
>>
>>What I said may be both good news and bad news to my Christian friends,
>>depending on their position on gay and lesbian rights. This Biblical
>>prohibition is addressed only to the Jews. Non-Jews are affected only if
>>they reside in the Holy Land, but not elsewhere (see the closing exhortation
>>in Leviticus 18, verses 24-30). Thus, it is incorrect to apply this
>>prohibition on a universal scale.
>>
>>But I spoke to my fellow Jews, who are required to observe this prohibition.
>>What is the rationale for this prohibition? In a previous column, I noted
>>that the Bible's impurity rules are part of a symbol system representing the
>>forces of life and death. Israel is required to avoid these impurities and
>>adhere to the laws commanded by God, who promotes the forces of life. Thus
>>in the same chapter we read, "You shall heed my statutes and my rules, by
>>doing them one shall live" (Leviticus 18:5). A man who discharges semen,
>>whether intentionally or otherwise, is declared impure and must purify
>>himself by bathing (a sort of re-baptism) before he is permitted to enter
>>the Temple or touch sacred (sacrificial) food (Leviticus 15:16-18). Why?
>>Because semen stands for life, and the loss of semen symbolizes the loss of
>>life.
>>
>>Note also that in the entire list of forbidden sexual unions, THERE IS NO
>>PROHIBITION AGAINST LESBIANISM. Can it be that lesbianism did not exist in
>>ancient times or that Scripture was unaware of its existence? Lesbians
>>existed and flourished, as attested in an old (pre-Israelite)
>>
>>Babylonian text and in the work of the lesbian poet Sappho (born c. 612
>>B.C.E., during the time of the First Temple), who came from the island of
>>Lesbos (hence lesbianism). But there is a fundamental difference between the
>>homosexual acts of men and women. IN LESBIANISM THERE IS NO SPILLING OF
>>SEED. Thus life is not symbolically lost, and therefore lesbianism is not
>>prohibited in the Bible.
>>
>>My argument ostensibly can be countered by a more comprehensive biblical
>>injunction. The very first commandment, given to Adam and repeated to Noah,
>>is "Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth" (Genesis 1:28 and Genesis
>>9:1,7). The descendants of Noah--the entire human race--are duty-bound to
>>fulfill this commandment. But the truth is that we have not only filled the
>>earth, we have over-filled it. This does not mean, however, that the
>>commandment should be thought of as no longer in force--especially among
>>Jews, who have lost a third of their members in our lifetime. I recall an
>>incident during a premarital interview from the early years of my rabbinate.
>>The starry-eyed bride declared her noble intention to have twelve children
>>to compensate for the tragic loss of six million killed in the Holocaust. I
>>gasped, "Must you do it all by yourself?"
>>
>>I have since come to regret my flippant reply. This couple regarded their
>>forthcoming marriage as a sacrament not just between themselves, but with
>>the >Jewish people. The problem has worsened for American Jews. Because
>>intermarriage is rife and the Jewish birth rate is low, American Jewry, once
>>at zero population growth, has dipped into the minus column. Were it not for
>>a steady stream of converts, the extinction of American Jewry would be even
>>more imminent. For us the divine command, "Be fruitful and multiply" is
>>truly in force.
>>
>>To Jewish homosexuals I offer an unoriginal solution. As compensation for
>>your loss of seed, adopt children. Although adoption was practiced in the
>>ancient world (as attested in Babylonian law), there is no Biblical
>>procedure or institution of adoption. As a result the institution of
>>adoption is absent from rabbinic jurisprudence. Yet there are isolated cases
>>of a kind of pseudo-adoption in the Bible. For example, Abraham, long
>>childless, complains to God that Eliezer of Damascus, his steward, will
>>inherit him (Genesis 15:2). And barren Rachel beseeches her husband Jacob,
>>"Here is my maid Bilhah--go into her that she may bear on my knees and that
>>through her I too may have children" (Genesis 30:3). Adoption is certainly a
>>possibility today.
>>
>>Lesbian couples have an additional advantage. Not only do they not violate
>>biblical law, but through artificial insemination each can become the
>>natural mother of her children.
>>
>>Thus from the Bible we can infer the following: Lesbians, presumably half of
>>the world's homosexual population, are not mentioned. More than ninety-nine
>>percent of the gays, namely non-Jews, are not addressed. This leaves the
>>small number of male Jewish gays subject to this >prohibition. If they are
>>biologically or psychologically incapable of procreation, adoption provides
>>a solution. I hope the Eternal, in love and compassion, will then reckon
>>their spilled seed as producing fruit. Jacob Milgrom." (Bible Review, a
>>publication of the Biblical Archeology Society 3000 Connecticut Avenue NW,
>>Suite 300, Washington DC 20008, 202 387 8888




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On Mon, 04 Jan 1999 08:02:37 GMT, notalways@earthlinkspamblocker.net
(Brian Blank) wanted to write the truth, as follows:

On Sun, 03 Jan 1999 16:56:11 GMT, chiffre@chambre.com wrote:

>Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
>the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the 
>more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

>Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions 
>"smells" of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

>Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted "on behalf 
>of all fellow  taxpayers,except the favoured few."

>Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
>the  Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the 
>more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

>Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions 
>"smells" of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

>Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted "on behalf 
>of all fellow  taxpayers,except the favoured few."


>On 12 Apr 1998 22:36:43 -0700, kmcvay@nanaimo.island.net (Ken McVay)
>wrote:
>>In article   wrote:

>>>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>>>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>>>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!


>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!

>In fact Revenue Canada officials had decided 12 December 1991 that the
>Bronfmans were supposed to pay their taxes on this money!!!

>George Harris, according to CP, is claiming that the Auditor General
>of Canada  in May 1996, exposed the fact that the JEW Bronfmans did
>not pay their taxes on the 2.2 Billion, thereby cheating the tax
>department out of " hundreds of millions of dollars"!!!

>Harris is fighting for the rights of all non-JEW taxpayers on this
>issue.

>He is quoted as saying, according to CP:"He will be helping to sustain
>public confidence in our income tax system, as well as the
>administration of justice generally."


>Could it be that the goy-boy Oyvay finally got kicked out of NIZKOR, 
>since the Bnai Brith could no longer stand the heat of the
>investigations for tax fraud?

>Did the IRS and Revenue Canada taxation finally get fed up with the
>multi-million dollar  FRAUD by OyVay??

>Is that why the filthy pervert OyVay is now in hiding back in
>Nanaimo???

>Is OyVay back to being a "gas station attendant" for his living, or is
>it again on welfare??


Guess even the shabbas-goy OyVay couldn't stop the Federal Court!!!
>Brian Blank
>(remove the spamblocker to reply)



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On 4 Jan 1999 10:03:39 GMT, deppitybob@aol.com.d.o.t.s (DeppityBob)
wrote:

>>Whether you like his views or not, there ain't a person in this
>>newsgroup
>>with more guts than Ed Kadach.  The guy writes some really hard-hitting
>>and
>>politically incorrect stuff, and posts using his real name and via his
>>normal
>>ISP.



Guess the damned Christkillers and their ilk just do not like to read
the TRUTH!!!

>Yup--takes real guts
>Eddie Kadanparker is a loudmouth, and if you think he's hot shit, it says a
>hell of a lot more about you than him.
>
>Dep  
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>"Always tell the truth. It's the easiest thing to remember."
>			--David Mamet
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



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On Sun, 03 Jan 1999 19:10:51 -0700, Ed Kadach 
wrote:

>ChuckF2323 wrote:
>> 
>> <> From: trupatriot@yahoo.com
>> Date: Sun, Jan 3, 1999 5:12 PM
>> Message-id: <76p4hl$o18$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
>> 
>> In article <1dea80ca78692c887a8b042f0af60096@base.xs4all.nl>,
>>   blonder30  wrote:
>> > Three great and brave men:
>> > DAN PARKER, ED KADACH, RICHARD PHILLIPS
>> 
>> Now that Mr. Parker has apparently bailed on the movement that leaves 2 great
>> men.
>> 
>> CF: really! Kadach is a fruitcake, phillips is a turkey who lies about being a
>> Jew.
>> Nothing great about either one, and let's hope Parker got run over by a truck.
>> 
>> Chuck Ferree
>
>
>Ouch!! A fruitcake?  Better substitute my name for McVay.
>McVay is a legend but alas, only in his own demented mind.
>My jewish sources tell me that the Zionists are ready to
>pull the plug on his project. 

Could it be that both the IRS in the USA and also Revenue Canada
Taxation have finally started FRAUD prosecutions against OyVay and his
Nazikor group for tax fraud??

I guess even the Weaseltal group can't afford that much bad PR.

Keep up the great work, Ed...



Well, as they say, all good
>things must come to an end. My only concern now is who will 
>support the faggot now. Probably the Kanadian taxpayer.
>
>
>Ed Kadach


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On Tue, 5 Jan 1999 00:22:40 GMT, ca140@torfree.net (Ron Yaraskavitch)
wrote:

>chiffre@chambre.com wrote:
>: Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
>: the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the 
>: more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!
>
>I don't get it.  Why does 'chiffre' want to condemn jews?  

Mainly because the JEW Bronfmans swindled the Canadian government out
of more than $700 millions taxes!!!

Read the story, and then try to correlate to Nazis???

>If the Nazis and Soviets blamed all problems on the jews, does that mean 
>they were trying to direct the public attention away from evaluating what 
>they were doing?
>Ron


On Sun, 03 Jan 1999 16:56:11 GMT, chiffre@chambre.com wrote:

>Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
>the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the 
>more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

>Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions 
>"smells" of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

>Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted "on behalf 
>of all fellow  taxpayers,except the favoured few."

>Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
>the  Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the 
>more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

>Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions 
>"smells" of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

>Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted "on behalf 
>of all fellow  taxpayers,except the favoured few."


>On 12 Apr 1998 22:36:43 -0700, kmcvay@nanaimo.island.net (Ken McVay)
>wrote:
>>In article   wrote:

>>>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>>>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>>>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!


>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!

>In fact Revenue Canada officials had decided 12 December 1991 that the
>Bronfmans were supposed to pay their taxes on this money!!!

>George Harris, according to CP, is claiming that the Auditor General
>of Canada  in May 1996, exposed the fact that the JEW Bronfmans did
>not pay their taxes on the 2.2 Billion, thereby cheating the tax
>department out of " hundreds of millions of dollars"!!!

>Harris is fighting for the rights of all non-JEW taxpayers on this
>issue.

>He is quoted as saying, according to CP:"He will be helping to sustain
>public confidence in our income tax system, as well as the
>administration of justice generally."


>Could it be that the goy-boy Oyvay finally got kicked out of NIZKOR, 
>since the Bnai Brith could no longer stand the heat of the
>investigations for tax fraud?

>Did the IRS and Revenue Canada taxation finally get fed up with the
>multi-million dollar  FRAUD by OyVay??

>Is that why the filthy pervert OyVay is now in hiding back in
>Nanaimo???

>Is OyVay back to being a "gas station attendant" for his living, or is
>it again on welfare??


Guess even the shabbas-goy OyVay couldn't stop the Federal Court!!!



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On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 01:01:49 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:
>On Mon, 22 Sep 1997 17:28:24 GMT, odessa88@direct.ca wrote:

>>If there were so many documented JEWS in the German military, one MUST
>>question how many may have died in WWII!!!

>>It seems that the number keeps on increasing, by mythical magic, just
>>as each new lawsuit demanding reparations is filed!!!

>>In other words, soon the number of damn JEW claimants for alleged
>>demise in WWII will exceed the populations of all the countries
>>involved.


>>On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 02:43:34 GMT, vagabond@idirect.com (William
>>Markiewicz) wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>For a fair approximation of the number of victims, the extent of
>>>Jewish life in pre-war Europe must be looked at.  See the
>>>Communication Page, August 97 issue 
>>>http://web.idirect.com/~vagabond
>>
>>sperati wrote:
>>> 
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>>> From: stefan lemieszewski 
>>> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>>> 
>>> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>>> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>>> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>>> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>>> 
>>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>> titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
>>> appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>>> to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>>> >>Stefan Lemieszewski
>>> 
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> North Shore News
>>> February 2, 1997
>>> 
>>> Insights from abroad
>>> Doug Collins
>>> 
>>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>> that is ignored in Canada.
>>> 
>>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>> served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
>>> 
>>> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>>> about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
>>> 
>>> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>>> was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
>>> transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
>>> 
>>> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
>>> married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>>> generals, and 23 colonels.
>>> 
>>> Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
>>> Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>>> more. The research is continuing.
>>> 
>>> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>>> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>>> alive.
>>> 
>>> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>>> father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
>>> 
>>> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>>> whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
>>> 
>>> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>>> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>>> 
>>> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>>> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>>> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>>> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>>> documents in the process.
>>> 
>>> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>>> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew
>>> could ever have fought for Hitler.
>>> 
>>> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
>>> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
>>> 
>>> He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
>>> about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>>> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
>>> 
>>> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may be
>>> used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers of
>>> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>>> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>>> 
>>> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>>> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>>> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>>> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>>> 
>>> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>>> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>>> was a Jew.
>>> 
>>> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>>> 
>>> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>>> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>>> one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
>>> 
>>> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>>> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>>> 
>>> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>>> knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced to a
>>> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>>> 
>>> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>>> 
>>> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>>> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>>> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>>> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>>> plotting against Hitler.
>>> 
>>> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>>> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>>> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>>> to it that he was discharged from the army.
>>> 
>>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>> wonder why?
>>> 
>>> ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>>> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>>> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>>> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>>
>>
>>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!


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On Wed, 06 Jan 1999 14:13:29 GMT, sjheyer@hotmail.com wrote:

>The truth about the Holocaust: It happened
>
>Must be the weather or something but the loonies are out again. Among other
>things I notice a new flurry of postings denying the Holocaust. 

To which Holocaust or Holohoax do YOU refer?

To the murder of 25 million Ukrainians by the JEW-led Soviet
CHEKA/NKVD in 1932-3?

Or, perhaps to the Turk slaughter of the Armenians prior to WWI?


I normally try
>to avoid seriously raving loonies, not that they're dangerous or anything,
>it's just that you get sprayed with all those little bits of spit.
>
>Nevertheless, sometimes you have to gird you're loins, or rather put a hanky
>over your face, and correct their rubbish just so young people are not misled.
>Social duty and all that.
>
>First, the Nazis murdered millions of people and did so in the most horrible
>way. Second, a lot of them were people of Jewish background and were in fact
>murdered for no other reason than that they were of Jewish background.
>
>There is some debate over details and exact numbers, but there is no debate
>over the basic facts. Neither does this only come from official propaganda,
>there are people still living who were there and/or who knew what was
>happening. I've met some, including old Nazis as well as Jews. Even my father
>was close enough to the action to have been very definite about what happened.
>
>Also, there is no debate that the behavior of some other nations was shameful
>in that they were reluctant to take large numbers of Jewish refugees. In their
>defense, though, it must be said that they were just digging themselves out
>from under the Depression so were understandably reluctant to suddenly boost
>their unemployment queues by a few million people of an easily identified
>ethnic group.
>
>Nevertheless, it was the Nazis who pulled the trigger or released the gas.
>The blame is entirely theirs. For God's sake, if they were really convinced
>there were too many Jews in their part of Europe there were other ways. For
>instance, they could have just encouraged them to leave, perhaps even
>actively supported the Jewish takeover of what is now Israel thus
>inconveniencing the British no end. (Read the history of Israel to find out
>what I am referring to.)
>
>I think one reason why this rubbish keeps coming up is that there is a
>widespread perception that official, that is university, history has been
>corrupted and therefore anything just could be true, or not true. The problem
>is, there is some truth behind this perception.
>
>As the left-liberals (in reality left-progressive and anything but liberal)
>came to dominate the universities, media and other important post war
>institutions "history" was readjusted, though often more in emphases than
>fact, to suit their prejudices and fantasies.
>
>Most noticeable and shocking was the hypocritical denial of disgusting crimes
>committed by regimes they liked, while making a great deal of fuss over the
>misdeeds of those they didn't. The prime example was the way Hitler's crimes
>were harped upon until we were all thoroughly sick of them while it was
>considered impolite to mention Stalin's even greater crimes. Impolite in fact
>to the point of blighting the academic career of anyone so brave or foolish as
>to point out the moral equivalence of the two men and their regimes.
>
>Let's put this bluntly. In the first half of this century two authoritarian,
>socialist philosophies came to power, the Communists and the Nazis. (Yes, they
>both CLAIMED to be socialist.) Both murdered millions of people but one lost a
>war while the other went on to capture the hearts and minds of many of the
>West’s intellectuals.
>
>Old fellow travelers with the Nazis have to accept that long ago they
>supported a truly vile and murderous group. Old fellow travelers with the
>Communists have to accept that not so long ago they supported a truly vile
>and murderous group.
>
>People who inherited any substantial part of their beliefs or worldview from
>either also have to admit that heritage and reexamine those beliefs in that
>light. Yes, this does include our current left-liberal intellectual elites.
>
>There will always be the opportunity for nasty little ravers to deny the
>Holocaust until this happens and until we remove the perception that official
>history has been distorted to serve the purposes of the elites. Only then will
>people begin to trust mainstream history again and ignore the loonies.
>
>****************************************************************
>Stephen Heyer, Queensland Australia
>E-mail: sjheyer@nospam.hotmail.com  (remove “nospam” before sending)
>Home Page: http://www.heyer.com.au
>
>Love Truth; be tolerant; do good where practical.
>Accept the sin when you must, or choose, to do evil.
>
>****************************************************************
>
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From stpaul@roma.org Wed Jan  6 14:46:56 EST 1999
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On 2 Jan 1999 02:54:40 -0700, gritpipe@nospam.compusmart.ab.ca wrote:

>On Thu, 31 Dec 1998 20:59:19, kmcvay@nanaimo.island.net (Ken McVay) wrote:
>
>> their "incineration" in the past... given that roughly 10% of our 
>> population is probably gay/lesbian,
>
>Pack of lies.  Try 2 to 3 percent.  Even these agendized groups of gays and 
>lesbians admit that the INFLATED 10 percent figure has been good for them 
>politically ...


Since when did you expect the shabbas-goy for the JEWS to ever tell
the truth???

The full text follows:

On Sat, 26 Dec 1998 19:04:05 GMT, kenmaggot@nazikor.niz.org wrote:

>In a move sure to anger orthodox Jews, as well as normal humans, newspapers
>across Canada report that a Winnipeg synagogue will perform marriages
>of same sex persons.

>This, even though there is no law in Canada permitting this!!!

>Rabbi Michael  Levenson of Temple Shalom admits that his actions are
>illegal. 


If his actions are illegal, why don't the authorities send him to
jail??


>He is quoted as saying that his ceremonies will be recognised
>from a religious point of view, not a political one. Levenson alleges
>that members of his temple supposedly supported his action.  However,
>even normal Jews are criticising this action. It seems that what this
>Jew is doing, is NOT acceptable, according to the Torah.


No wonder people think of the jews as mainly sodomites.


On Tue, 29 Dec 1998 00:41:36 -0500, "Phil Essing"
 wrote:

>Why do you hide your true identity and email?  Is it because you are ashamed
>of your own views?
>-Phil


>kenmaggot@nazikor.niz.org wrote in message
><368731fd.534720@news.sprint.ca>...
>>In amove sto anger orthodox Jews, as well as normal humans, newspapers
>>across Canada report that a Winnipeg synagogue will perform arriages
>>of same sex persons.

>>This, even though there is no law in Canada permitting this!!!

>>Rabbi Michael  Levenson of Temple Shalom admits that his actions are
>>illegal. He is quoted as saying that his ceremonies will be recognised
>>from a religious point of view, not a political one. Levenson alleges
>>that members of his temple supposedly supported his action.  However,
>>even normal Jews are criticising this action. It seems that what this
>>Jew is doing, is NOT acceptable, according to the Torah.



From chiffre@chambre.com Wed Jan  6 14:47:05 EST 1999
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Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the 
more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions 
"smells" of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted "on behalf 
of all fellow  taxpayers,except the favoured few."

Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
the 
Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the 
more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions 
"smells" of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted "on behalf 
of all fellow  taxpayers,except the favoured few."


On 12 Apr 1998 22:36:43 -0700, kmcvay@nanaimo.island.net (Ken McVay)
wrote:
>In article   wrote:

>>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!


Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in

Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
BRONFMAN JEWS!!!
 
In fact Revenue Canada officials had decided 12 December 1991 that the

Bronfmans were supposed to pay their taxes on this money!!!

George Harris, according to CP, is claiming that the Auditor General
of Canada  in May 1996, exposed the fact that the JEW Bronfmans did
not pay their taxes on the 2.2 Billion, thereby cheating the tax
department out of " hundreds of millions of dollars"!!!

Harris is fighting for the rights of all non-JEW taxpayers on this
issue.

He is quoted as saying, according to CP:"He will be helping to sustain
public confidence in our income tax system, as well as the
administration of justice generally."




Could it be that the goy-boy Oyvay finally got kicked out of NIZKOR, 
since the Bnai Brith could no longer stand the heat of the
investigations for tax fraud?

Did the IRS and Revenue Canada taxation finally get fed up with the
multi-million dollar 
FRAUD by OyVay??

Is that why the filthy pervert OyVay is now in hiding back in
Nanaimo???

Is OyVay back to being a "gas station attendant" for his living, or is
it again on welfare??



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On Sun, 03 Jan 1999 16:56:11 GMT, chiffre@chambre.com wrote:

>Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
>the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the 
>more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

>Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions 
>"smells" of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

>Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted "on behalf 
>of all fellow  taxpayers,except the favoured few."

>Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
>the  Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the 
>more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

>Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions 
>"smells" of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

>Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted "on behalf 
>of all fellow  taxpayers,except the favoured few."


>On 12 Apr 1998 22:36:43 -0700, kmcvay@nanaimo.island.net (Ken McVay)
>wrote:
>>In article   wrote:

>>>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>>>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>>>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!


>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!

>In fact Revenue Canada officials had decided 12 December 1991 that the
>Bronfmans were supposed to pay their taxes on this money!!!

>George Harris, according to CP, is claiming that the Auditor General
>of Canada  in May 1996, exposed the fact that the JEW Bronfmans did
>not pay their taxes on the 2.2 Billion, thereby cheating the tax
>department out of " hundreds of millions of dollars"!!!

>Harris is fighting for the rights of all non-JEW taxpayers on this
>issue.

>He is quoted as saying, according to CP:"He will be helping to sustain
>public confidence in our income tax system, as well as the
>administration of justice generally."


>Could it be that the goy-boy Oyvay finally got kicked out of NIZKOR, 
>since the Bnai Brith could no longer stand the heat of the
>investigations for tax fraud?

>Did the IRS and Revenue Canada taxation finally get fed up with the
>multi-million dollar  FRAUD by OyVay??

>Is that why the filthy pervert OyVay is now in hiding back in
>Nanaimo???

>Is OyVay back to being a "gas station attendant" for his living, or is
>it again on welfare??


Guess even the shabbas-goy OyVay couldn't stop the Federal Court!!!


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Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the
more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions "smells"
of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted "on behalf of all
fellow  taxpayers,except the favoured few."


On 12 Apr 1998 22:36:43 -0700, kmcvay@nanaimo.island.net (Ken McVay)
wrote:

>>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!


Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
BRONFMAN JEWS!!!
 
In fact Revenue Canada officials had decided 12 december 1991 that the
Bronfmans were supposed to pay their taxes on this money!!!

George Harris, according to CP, is claiming that the Auditor General
of Canada  in May 1996, exposed the fact that the JEW Bronfmans did
not pay their taxes on the 2.2 Billion, thereby cheating the tax
department out of " hundreds of millions of dollars"!!!

Harris is fighting for the rights of all  non-JEW taxpayers on this
issue.

He is quoted as saying, according to CP:"He will be helping to sustain
public confidence in our income tax system, as well as the
administration of justice generally."


Could it be that the goy-boy Oyvay finally got kicked out of NIZKOR,
since the Bnai Brith could no longer stand the heat of the
investigations for tax fraud?/

Did the IRS and Revenue Canada taxation finally get fed up with the
multi-million dollar FRAUD by OyVay??

Is that why the filthy pervert OyVay is now in hiding back in
Nanaimo???

Is OyVay back to being a "gas station attendant" for his living, or is
it again on welfare???


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On Mon, 04 Jan 1999 08:02:37 GMT, notalways@earthlinkspamblocker.net
(Brian Blank) wanted to write the truth, as follows:

On Sun, 03 Jan 1999 16:56:11 GMT, chiffre@chambre.com wrote:

>Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
>the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the 
>more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

>Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions 
>"smells" of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

>Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted "on behalf 
>of all fellow  taxpayers,except the favoured few."

>Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
>the  Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the 
>more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

>Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions 
>"smells" of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

>Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted "on behalf 
>of all fellow  taxpayers,except the favoured few."


>On 12 Apr 1998 22:36:43 -0700, kmcvay@nanaimo.island.net (Ken McVay)
>wrote:
>>In article   wrote:

>>>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>>>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>>>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!


>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!

>In fact Revenue Canada officials had decided 12 December 1991 that the
>Bronfmans were supposed to pay their taxes on this money!!!

>George Harris, according to CP, is claiming that the Auditor General
>of Canada  in May 1996, exposed the fact that the JEW Bronfmans did
>not pay their taxes on the 2.2 Billion, thereby cheating the tax
>department out of " hundreds of millions of dollars"!!!

>Harris is fighting for the rights of all non-JEW taxpayers on this
>issue.

>He is quoted as saying, according to CP:"He will be helping to sustain
>public confidence in our income tax system, as well as the
>administration of justice generally."


>Could it be that the goy-boy Oyvay finally got kicked out of NIZKOR, 
>since the Bnai Brith could no longer stand the heat of the
>investigations for tax fraud?

>Did the IRS and Revenue Canada taxation finally get fed up with the
>multi-million dollar  FRAUD by OyVay??

>Is that why the filthy pervert OyVay is now in hiding back in
>Nanaimo???

>Is OyVay back to being a "gas station attendant" for his living, or is
>it again on welfare??


Guess even the shabbas-goy OyVay couldn't stop the Federal Court!!!
>Brian Blank
>(remove the spamblocker to reply)



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On 4 Jan 1999 01:40:13 GMT, kmcvay@ (Kenneth McVay SOBC) wrote:

>In article <3690a854.686658@news.sprint.ca>,   wrote:
>>Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Muldoon of
>>the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the
>>more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

>>Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions "smells"
>>of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Muldoon of
the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the
more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions "smells"
of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted "on behalf of all
fellow  taxpayers,except the favoured few."


On 12 Apr 1998 22:36:43 -0700, kmcvay@nanaimo.island.net (Ken McVay)
wrote:

>>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!


Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
BRONFMAN JEWS!!!
 
In fact Revenue Canada officials had decided 12 december 1991 that the
Bronfmans were supposed to pay their taxes on this money!!!

George Harris, according to CP, is claiming that the Auditor General
of Canada  in May 1996, exposed the fact that the JEW Bronfmans did
not pay their taxes on the 2.2 Billion, thereby cheating the tax
department out of " hundreds of millions of dollars"!!!

Harris is fighting for the rights of all  non-JEW taxpayers on this
issue.

He is quoted as saying, according to CP:"He will be helping to sustain
public confidence in our income tax system, as well as the
administration of justice generally."


Could it be that the goy-boy Oyvay finally got kicked out of NIZKOR,
since the Bnai Brith could no longer stand the heat of the
investigations for tax fraud?/

Did the IRS and Revenue Canada Taxation finally get fed up with the
multi-million dollar FRAUD by OyVay??

Is that why the filthy pervert OyVay is now in hiding back in
Nanaimo???

Is OyVay back to being a "gas station attendant" for his living, or is
it again on welfare???

> I've tried CP on the web, Edmonton and Calgary papers, and the
>Winnipeg Free Press, and just can't find this story. 
It seems that the cretin OyVay can not read - it was a feature article
in the Sun newspapers, for example...


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On 4 Jan 1999 18:43:18 GMT, kmcvay(Kenneth McVay SOBC) trying to hide
the truth as reported by Canadian Press all across Canada:

>"chiffre@chambre.com" wrote:

>>>Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
>>>the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the 
>>>more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!


On Sun, 03 Jan 1999 16:56:11 GMT, chiffre@chambre.com wrote:

>Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
>the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the 
>more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

>Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions 
>"smells" of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

>Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted "on behalf 
>of all fellow  taxpayers,except the favoured few."

>Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
>the  Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the 
>more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

>Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions 
>"smells" of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

>Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted "on behalf 
>of all fellow  taxpayers,except the favoured few."


>On 12 Apr 1998 22:36:43 -0700, kmcvay@nanaimo.island.net (Ken McVay)
>wrote:
>>In article   wrote:

>>>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>>>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>>>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!


>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!

>In fact Revenue Canada officials had decided 12 December 1991 that the
>Bronfmans were supposed to pay their taxes on this money!!!

>George Harris, according to CP, is claiming that the Auditor General
>of Canada  in May 1996, exposed the fact that the JEW Bronfmans did
>not pay their taxes on the 2.2 Billion, thereby cheating the tax
>department out of " hundreds of millions of dollars"!!!

>Harris is fighting for the rights of all non-JEW taxpayers on this
>issue.

>He is quoted as saying, according to CP:"He will be helping to sustain
>public confidence in our income tax system, as well as the
>administration of justice generally."


>Could it be that the goy-boy Oyvay finally got kicked out of NIZKOR, 
>since the Bnai Brith could no longer stand the heat of the
>investigations for tax fraud?

>Did the IRS and Revenue Canada taxation finally get fed up with the
>multi-million dollar  FRAUD by OyVay??

>Is that why the filthy pervert OyVay is now in hiding back in
>Nanaimo???

>Is OyVay back to being a "gas station attendant" for his living, or is
>it again on welfare??


Guess even the shabbas-goy OyVay couldn't stop the Federal Court!!!

Could it be that the maggot OyVay is also now being ordered to repay
much taxes, in both Canada and the US, in connection with his
FRAUDULENT claims as a non-existent charity???



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On Tue, 5 Jan 1999 00:22:40 GMT, ca140@torfree.net (Ron Yaraskavitch)
wrote:

>chiffre@chambre.com wrote:
>: Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
>: the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the 
>: more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!
>
>I don't get it.  Why does 'chiffre' want to condemn jews?  

Mainly because the JEW Bronfmans swindled the Canadian government out
of more than $700 millions taxes!!!

Read the story, and then try to correlate to Nazis???

>If the Nazis and Soviets blamed all problems on the jews, does that mean 
>they were trying to direct the public attention away from evaluating what 
>they were doing?
>Ron


On Sun, 03 Jan 1999 16:56:11 GMT, chiffre@chambre.com wrote:

>Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
>the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the 
>more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

>Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions 
>"smells" of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

>Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted "on behalf 
>of all fellow  taxpayers,except the favoured few."

>Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
>the  Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the 
>more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

>Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions 
>"smells" of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

>Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted "on behalf 
>of all fellow  taxpayers,except the favoured few."


>On 12 Apr 1998 22:36:43 -0700, kmcvay@nanaimo.island.net (Ken McVay)
>wrote:
>>In article   wrote:

>>>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>>>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>>>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!


>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!

>In fact Revenue Canada officials had decided 12 December 1991 that the
>Bronfmans were supposed to pay their taxes on this money!!!

>George Harris, according to CP, is claiming that the Auditor General
>of Canada  in May 1996, exposed the fact that the JEW Bronfmans did
>not pay their taxes on the 2.2 Billion, thereby cheating the tax
>department out of " hundreds of millions of dollars"!!!

>Harris is fighting for the rights of all non-JEW taxpayers on this
>issue.

>He is quoted as saying, according to CP:"He will be helping to sustain
>public confidence in our income tax system, as well as the
>administration of justice generally."


>Could it be that the goy-boy Oyvay finally got kicked out of NIZKOR, 
>since the Bnai Brith could no longer stand the heat of the
>investigations for tax fraud?

>Did the IRS and Revenue Canada taxation finally get fed up with the
>multi-million dollar  FRAUD by OyVay??

>Is that why the filthy pervert OyVay is now in hiding back in
>Nanaimo???

>Is OyVay back to being a "gas station attendant" for his living, or is
>it again on welfare??


Guess even the shabbas-goy OyVay couldn't stop the Federal Court!!!



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On Sun, 27 Dec 1998 01:19:05 GMT, elieK@nazikor.nizkook.org wrote:
>On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 15:05:05 GMT, bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote:
>>On Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:40:38 -0600, freespeech1@mailexcite.com wrote:

>>Zionism and the Third Reich

>>Mark Weber

>>Early in 1935, a passenger ship bound for Haifa in Palestine left the
>>German
>>port of Bremerhaven. Its stern bore the Hebrew letters for its name,
>>"Tel Aviv," while a
>>swastika banner fluttered from the mast. And although the ship was
>>Zionist-owned, its captain was a National Socialist Party member. Many
>>years later a traveler
>>aboard the ship recalled this symbolic combination as a "metaphysical
>>absurdity."1 Absurd or not, this is but one vignette from a
>>little-known chapter of history: The
>>wide-ranging collaboration between Zionism and Hitler's Third Reich.
>>
>>Common Aims
>>
>>Over the years, people in many different countries have wrestled with
>>the "Jewish question": that is, what is the proper role of Jews in
>>non-Jewish society? During
>>the 1930s, Jewish Zionists and German National Socialists shared
>>similar views on how to deal with this perplexing issue. They agreed
>>that Jews and Germans were
>>distinctly different nationalities, and that Jews did not belong in
>>Germany.
>>Jews living in the Reich were therefore to be regarded not as "Germans
>>of the Jewish faith," but rather as members of a separate national
>>community. Zionism (Jewish nationalism) also implied an obligation by
>>Zionist Jews to resettle in Palestine, the
>>"Jewish homeland." They could hardly regard themselves as sincere
>>Zionists and simultaneously claim equal rights in Germany or any other
>>"foreign" country.
>>
>>Theodor Herzl (1860-1904), the founder of modern Zionism, maintained
>>that anti-Semitism is not an aberration, but a natural and completely
>>understandable response by non-Jews to alien Jewish behavior and
>>attitudes. The only solution, he argued, is for Jews to recognize
>>reality and live in a separate state of their own.
>>
>>"The Jewish question exists wherever Jews live in noticeable numbers,"
>>he wrote in his most influential work, The Jewish State. "Where it
>>does not exist, it is brought
>>in by arriving Jews. . . . I believe I understand anti-Semitism, which
>>is a very complex phenomenon. I consider this development as a Jew,
>>without hate or fear." The Jewish question, he maintained, is not
>>social or religious. "It is a national
>>question. To solve it we must, above all, make it an international
>>political issue. . . ."
>>
>>Regardless of their citizenship, Herzl insisted, Jews constitute not
>>merely a religious community, but a nationality, a people, a Volk.
>>Zionism, wrote Herzl, offered
>>the world a welcome "final solution of the Jewish question."
>>
>>
>>Six months after Hitler came to power, the Zionist Federation of
>>Germany (by far the largest Zionist group in the country) submitted a
>>detailed memorandum to the
>>new government that reviewed German-Jewish relations and formally
>>offered Zionist support in "solving" the vexing "Jewish question." The
>>first step, it suggested,
>>had to be a frank recognition of fundamental national differences: 4
>>
>>Zionism has no illusions about the difficulty of the Jewish condition,
>>which consists above all in an abnormal occupational pattern and in
>>the fault of an intellectual and moral posture not rooted in one's own
>>tradition. Zionism
>>recognized decades ago that as a result of the assimilationist trend,
>>symptoms of deterioration were bound to appear . . .
>>
>>Zionism believes that the rebirth of the national life of a people,
>>which is now occurring in Germany through the emphasis on its
>>Christian and national
>>character, must also come about in the Jewish national group. For the
>>Jewish people, too, national origin, religion, common destiny and a
>>sense of its uniqueness must be of decisive importance in the shaping
>>of its existence. This means that the egotistical individualism of the
>>liberal era must be overcome and replaced with a sense of community
>>and collective responsibility . . .
>>
>>We believe it is precisely the new [National Socialist] Germany that
>>can, through bold resoluteness in the handling of the Jewish question,
>>take a decisive step toward overcoming a problem which, in truth, will
>>have to be dealt with by most European peoples . . .
>>
>>Our acknowledgment of Jewish nationality provides for a clear and
>>sincere relationship to the German people and its national and racial
>>realities.
>>
>>Precisely because we do not wish to falsify these fundamentals,
>>because we, too, are against mixed marriage and are for maintaining
>>the purity of the Jewish group and reject any trespasses in the
>>cultural domain, we - having been brought up in the German language
>>and German culture - can show an
>> interest in the works and values of German culture with admiration
>>and internal sympathy . . .
>>
>>For its practical aims, Zionism hopes to be able to win the
>>collaboration of even a government fundamentally hostile to Jews,
>>because in dealing with the Jewish question not sentimentalities are
>>involved but a real problem
>>whose solution interests all peoples and at the present moment
>>especially the  German people . . .
>>
>>Boycott propaganda - such as is currently being carried on against
>>Germany in many ways - is in essence un-Zionist, because Zionism wants
>>not to do battle but to convince and to build . . .
>>
>>We are not blind to the fact that a Jewish question exists and will
>>continue to exist. From the abnormal situation of the Jews severe
>>disadvantages result  for them, but also scarcely tolerable conditions
>>for other peoples.
>>
>>The Federation's paper, the Jüdische Rundschau ("Jewish Review"),
>>proclaimed the same message: "Zionism recognizes the existence of a
>>Jewish problem and
>>desires a far-reaching and constructive solution. For this purpose
>>Zionism wishes to obtain the assistance of all peoples, whether pro-
>>or anti-Jewish, because, in its
>>view, we are dealing here with a concrete rather than a sentimental
>>problem, the solution of which all peoples are interested."5 A young
>>Berlin rabbi, Joachim Prinz,
>>who later settled in the United States and became head of the American
>>Jewish Congress, wrote in his 1934 book, Wir Juden ("We Jews"), that
>>the National Socialist revolution in Germany meant "Jewry for the
>>Jews." He explained: "No
>>subterfuge can save us now. In place of assimilation we desire a new
>>concept: recognition of the Jewish nation and Jewish race." 6
>>
>>Active Collaboration
>>
>>On this basis of their similar ideologies about ethnicity and
>>nationhood, National Socialists and Zionists worked together for what
>>each group believed was in its own
>>national interest. As a result, the Hitler government vigorously
>>supported Zionism and Jewish emigration to Palestine from 1933 until
>>1940-1941, when the Second
>>World War prevented extensive collaboration.
>>
>>Even as the Third Reich became more entrenched, many German Jews,
>>probably a majority, continued to regard themselves, often with
>>considerable pride, as Germans first. Few were enthusiastic about
>>pulling up roots to begin a new
>>life in far-away Palestine. Nevertheless, more and more German Jews
>>turned to Zionism
>>during this period. Until late 1938, the Zionist movement flourished
>>in Germany under Hitler. The circulation of the Zionist Federation's
>>bi-weekly Judische Rundschau grew enormously. Numerous Zionist books
>>were published. "Zionist
>>work was in full swing" in Germany during those years, the
>>Encyclopaedia Judaica
>>notes. A Zionist convention held in Berlin in 1936 reflected "in its
>>composition the vigorous party life of German Zionists."7
>>
>>The SS was particularly enthusiastic in its support for Zionism. An
>>internal June 1934 SS position paper urged active and wide-ranging
>>support for Zionism by the
>>government and the Party as the best way to encourage emigration of
>>Germany's Jews to Palestine. This would require increased Jewish
>>self-awareness. Jewish
>>schools, Jewish sports leagues, Jewish cultural organizations - in
>>short, everything that would encourage this new consciousness and
>>self-awareness - should be
>>promoted, the paper recommended.8
>>
>>SS officer Leopold von Mildenstein and Zionist Federation official
>>Kurt Tuchler toured Palestine together for six months to assess
>>Zionist development there. Based
>>on his firsthand observations, von Mildenstein wrote a series of
>>twelve illustrated articles for the important Berlin daily Der Angriff
>>that appeared in late 1934 under
>>the heading "A Nazi Travels to Palestine." The series expressed great
>>admiration for the pioneering spirit and achievements of the Jewish
>>settlers. Zionist self-development, von Mildenstein wrote, had
>>produced a new kind of Jew. He
>>praised Zionism as a great benefit for both the Jewish people and the
>>entire world.
>>
>>A Jewish homeland in Palestine, he wrote in his concluding article,
>>"pointed the way to curing a centuries-long wound on the body of the
>>world: the Jewish
>>question." Der Angriff issued a special medal, with a Swastika on one
>>side and a Star of David on the other, to commemorate the joint
>>SS-Zionist visit. A few months after the articles appeared, von
>>Mildenstein was promoted to head the
>>Jewish affairs department of the SS security service in order to
>>support Zionist migration and development more effectively. 9
>>
>>The official SS newspaper, Das Schwarze Korps, proclaimed its support
>>for Zionism in a May 1935 front-page editorial: "The time may not be
>>too far off when Palestine will again be able to receive its sons who
>>have been lost to it for
>>more than a thousand years. Our good wishes, together with official
>>goodwill, go with them."10
>>
>>Four months later, a similar article appeared in the SS paper: 11
>>
>>The recognition of Jewry as a racial community based on blood and not
>>on religion leads the German government to guarantee without
>>reservation the racial separateness of this community. The government
>>finds itself in complete agreement with the great spiritual movement
>>within Jewry, the so-called
>>Zionism, with its recognition of the solidarity of Jewry around the
>>world and its rejection of all assimilationist notions. On this basis,
>>Germany undertakes measures that will surely play a significant role
>>in the future in the handling of the Jewish problem around the world.
>>
>>A leading German shipping line began direct passenger liner service
>>from Hamburg to Haifa, Palestine, in October 1933 providing "strictly
>>kosher food on its ships,
>>under the supervision of the Hamburg rabbinate." 12
>>
>>With official backing, Zionists worked tirelessly to "reeducate"
>>Germany's Jews. As American historian Francis Nicosia put it in his
>>1985 survey, The Third Reich
>>and the Palestine Question: "Zionists were encouraged to take their
>>message to the Jewish community, to collect money, to show films on
>>Palestine and generally to
>>educate German Jews about Palestine. There was considerable pressure
>>to teach Jews in Germany to cease identifying themselves as Germans
>>and to awaken a new Jewish national identity in them." 13
>>
>>In an interview after the war, the former head of the Zionist
>>Federation of Germany, Dr. Hans Friedenthal, summed up the situation:
>>"The Gestapo did everything in
>>those days to promote emigration, particularly to Palestine. We often
>>received their help when we required anything from other authorities
>>regarding preparations for emigration." 14
>>
>>At the September 1935 National Socialist Party Congress, the Reichstag
>>adopted the so-called "Nuremberg laws" that prohibited marriages and
>>sexual relations between Jews and Germans and, in effect, proclaimed
>>the Jews an alien minority
>>nationality. A few days later the Zionist Judische Rundschau
>>editorially welcomed the new measures: 15
>>
>>Germany . . . is meeting the demands of the World Zionist Congress
>>when it declares the Jews now living in Germany to be a national
>>minority. Once the Jews have been stamped a national minority it is
>>again possible to
>>establish normal relations between the German nation and Jewry. The
>>new laws  give the Jewish minority in Germany its own cultural life,
>>its own national life. In future it will be able to shape its own
>>schools, its own theatre, and its
>>own sports associations. In short, it can create its own future in all
>>aspects of national life . . .
>>
>>Germany has given the Jewish minority the opportunity to live for
>>itself, and is offering state protection for this separate life of the
>>Jewish minority:
>>
>>Jewry's process of growth into a nation will thereby be encouraged and
>>a contribution will be made to the establishment of more tolerable
>>relations   between the two nations.
>>
>>Georg Kareski, the head of both the "Revisionist" Zionist State
>>Organization and the Jewish Cultural League, and former head of the
>>Berlin Jewish Community,
>>declared in an interview with the Berlin daily Der Angriff at the end
>>of 1935:  16
>>
>>For many years I have regarded a complete separation of the cultural
>>affairs of the two peoples [Jews and Germans] as a pre-condition for
>>living  together without conflict. . . . I have long supported such a
>>separation,  provided it is founded on respect for the alien
>>nationality. The Nuremberg Laws
>>     . . . seem to me, apart from their legal provisions, to conform
>>entirely with this desire for a separate life based on mutual respect.
>>. . . This interruption
>>of the process of dissolution in many Jewish communities, which had
>>been promoted through mixed marriages, is therefore, from a Jewish
>>point of view, entirely welcome.
>>
>>Zionist leaders in other countries echoed these views. Stephen S.
>>Wise, president of the American Jewish Congress and the World Jewish
>>Congress, told   a New
>>York rally in June 1938: "I am not an American citizen of the Jewish
>>faith, I am a Jew. . . . Hitler was right in one thing. He calls the
>>Jewish people a race and we are a race." 17
>>
>>The Interior Ministry's Jewish affairs specialist, Dr. Bernhard
>>L_sener,
>>expressed support for Zionism in an article that appeared in a
>>November 1935 issue of the
>>official Reichsverwaltungsblatt: 18
>>
>>If the Jews already had their own state in which the majority of them
>>were settled, then the Jewish question could be regarded as completely
>>resolved  today, also for the Jews themselves. The least amount of
>>opposition to
>>the ideas underlying the Nuremberg Laws have been shown by the
>>Zionists,  because they realize at once that these laws represent the
>>only correct solution for the Jewish people as well. For each nation
>>must have its own state as the outward expression of its particular
>>nationhood.
>>
>>In cooperation with the German authorities, Zionist groups organized a
>>network of some forty camps and agricultural centers throughout
>>Germany where
>>prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine.
>>Although the Nuremberg Laws forbid Jews from displaying the German
>>flag, Jews were specifically
>>guaranteed the right to display the blue and white Jewish national
>>banner. The flag that would one day be adopted by Israel was flown at
>>the Zionist camps and centers in Hitler's Germany. 19
>>
>>Himmler's security service cooperated with the Haganah, the Zionist
>>underground military organization in Palestine. The SS agency paid
>>Haganah official Feivel
>>Polkes for information about the situation in Palestine and for help
>>in directing Jewish emigration to that country. Meanwhile, the Haganah
>>was kept well informed
>>about German plans by a spy it managed to plant in the Berlin
>>headquarters of the SS.20 Haganah-SS collaboration even included
>>secret deliveries of German
>>weapons to Jewish settlers for use in clashes with Palestinian Arabs.
>>21
>>
>>In the aftermath of the November 1938 "Kristallnacht" outburst of
>>violence and destruction, the SS quickly helped the Zionist
>>organization to get back on its feet
>>and continue its work in Germany, although now under more restricted
>>supervision. 22
>>
>>Official Reservations
>>
>>German support for Zionism was not unlimited. Government and Party
>>officials were very mindful of the continuing campaign by powerful
>>Jewish communities in the
>>United States, Britain and other countries to mobilize "their"
>>governments and
>>fellow citizens against Germany. As long as world Jewry remained
>>implacably hostile
>>towards National Socialist Germany, and as long as the great majority
>>of Jews around the world showed little eagerness to resettle in the
>>Zionist "promised land," a
>>sovereign Jewish state in Palestine would not really "solve" the
>>international Jewish question. Instead, German officials reasoned, it
>>would immeasurably strengthen this dangerous anti-German campaign.
>>German backing for Zionism was therefore
>>limited to support for a Jewish homeland in Palestine under British
>>control, not a sovereign Jewish state. 23
>>
>>A Jewish state in Palestine, the Foreign Minister informed diplomats
>>in June 1937, would not be in Germany's interest because it would not
>>be able to absorb all
>>Jews around the world, but would only serve as an additional power
>>base for international Jewry, in much the same way as Moscow served as
>>a base for international Communism.24 
>>
>>Reflecting something of a shift in official policy,
>>the German press expressed much greater sympathy in 1937 for
>>Palestinian Arab resistance to Zionist ambitions, at a time when
>>tension and conflict between
>>Jews and Arabs in Palestine was sharply increasing. 25
>>
>>A Foreign Office circular bulletin of June 22, 1937, cautioned that in
>>spite of support for Jewish settlement in Palestine, "it would
>>nevertheless be a mistake to
>>assume that Germany supports the formation of a state structure in
>>Palestine under some form of Jewish control. In view of the
>>anti-German agitation of international
>>Jewry, Germany cannot agree that the formation of a Palestine Jewish
>>state would help the peaceful development of the nations of the
>>world."26 "
>>
>>The proclamation
>>of a Jewish state or a Jewish-administrated Palestine," warned an
>>internal memorandum by the Jewish affairs section of the SS, "would
>>create for Germany a new
>>enemy, one that would have a deep influence on developments in the
>>Near East."
>>
>>Another SS agency predicted that a Jewish state "would work to bring
>>special minority protection to Jews in every country, therefore giving
>>legal protection to the exploitation activity of world Jewry."27 In
>>January 1939,
>>
>>Hitler's new Foreign Minister, Joachim von Ribbentrop, likewise warned
>>in another circular bulletin that "Germany must regard the formation
>>of a Jewish state as dangerous" because it
>>"would bring an international increase in power to world Jewry." 28
>>
>>Hitler himself personally reviewed this entire issue in early 1938
>>and, in spite of his long-standing skepticism of Zionist ambitions and
>>misgivings that his policies might
>>contribute to the formation of a Jewish state, decided to support
>>Jewish migration to Palestine even more vigorously. The prospect of
>>ridding Germany of its Jews,
>>he concluded, outweighed the possible dangers. 29
>>
>>Meanwhile, the British government imposed ever more drastic
>>restrictions on Jewish immigration into Palestine in 1937, 1938 and
>>1939. In response, the SS
>>security service concluded a secret alliance with the clandestine
>>Zionist agency Mossad le-Aliya Bet to smuggle Jews illegally into
>>Palestine. As a result of this intensive collaboration, several
>>convoys of ships succeeded in reaching
>>Palestine past British gunboats. Jewish migration, both legal and
>>illegal, from Germany
>>(including Austria) to Palestine increased dramatically in 1938 and
>>1939.
>>
>>Another 10,000 Jews were scheduled to depart in October 1939, but the
>>outbreak of war in September brought the effort to an end. All the
>>same, German authorities continued to promote indirect Jewish
>>emigration to Palestine during 1940 and 1941. 30
>>
>>Even as late as March 1942, at least one officially authorized Zionist
>>"kibbutz" training camp for potential emigrants continued to operate
>>in Hitler's Germany. 31
>>
>>The Transfer Agreement
>>
>>The centerpiece of German-Zionist cooperation during the Hitler era
>>was theTransfer Agreement, a pact that enabled tens of thousands of
>>German Jews to migrate
>>to Palestine with their wealth. The Agreement, also known as the
>>Ha'avara (Hebrew for "transfer"), was concluded in August 1933
>>following talks between German
>>officials and Chaim Arlosoroff, Political Secretary of the Jewish
>>Agency, the Palestine center of the World Zionist Organization. 32
>>
>>Through this unusual arrangement, each Jew bound for Palestine
>>deposited money in a special account in Germany. The money was used to
>>purchase German-made agricultural tools, building materials, pumps,
>>fertilizer, and so
>>forth, which were exported to Palestine and sold there by the
>>Jewish-owned Ha'avara
>>company in Tel-Aviv. Money from the sales was given to the Jewish
>>emigrant upon his arrival in Palestine in an amount corresponding to
>>his deposit in Germany.
>>
>>German goods poured into Palestine through the Ha'avara, which was
>>supplemented a short time later with a barter agreement by which
>>Palestine oranges were
>>exchanged for German timber, automobiles, agricultural machinery, and
>>other goods. The Agreement thus served the Zionist aim of bringing
>>Jewish settlers and
>>development capital to Palestine, while simultaneously serving the
>>German goal of freeing the country of an unwanted alien group.
>>
>>Delegates at the 1933 Zionist Congress in Prague vigorously debated
>>the merits of the Agreement. Some feared that the pact would undermine
>>the international
>>Jewish economic boycott against Germany. But Zionist officials
>>reassured the Congress. Sam Cohen, a key figure behind the Ha'avara
>>arrangement, stressed that
>>the Agreement was not economically advantageous to Germany. Arthur
>>Ruppin, a Zionist Organization emigration specialist who had helped
>>negotiate the pact,
>>pointed out that "the Transfer Agreement in no way interfered with the
>>boycott movement, since no new currency will flow into Germany as a
>>result of the agreement. . . ." 33 The 1935 Zionist Congress, meeting
>>in Switzerland,
>>overwhelmingly endorsed the pact. In 1936, the Jewish Agency (the
>>Zionist "shadow
>>government" in Palestine) took over direct control of the Ha'avara,
>>which remained in effect until the Second World War forced its
>>abandonment.
>>
>>Some German officials opposed the arrangement. Germany's Consul
>>General in Jerusalem, Hans D_hle, for example, sharply criticized the
>>Agreement on several
>>occasions during 1937. He pointed out that it cost Germany the foreign
>>exchange that the products exported to Palestine through the pact
>>would bring if sold elsewhere. The Ha'avara monopoly sale of German
>>goods to Palestine through a
>>Jewish agency naturally angered German businessmen and Arabs there.
>>Official German support for Zionism could lead to a loss of German
>>markets throughout the Arab world. The British government also
>>resented the arrangement.34 
>>
>>A June 1937 German Foreign Office internal bulletin referred to the
>>"foreign exchange sacrifices" that resulted from the Ha'avara. 35
>>
>>A December 1937 internal memorandum by the German Interior Ministry
>>reviewed the impact of the Transfer Agreement: "There is no doubt that
>>the Ha'avara arrangement has contributed most significantly to the
>>very rapid development of Palestine since 1933. The Agreement provided
>>not only the largest source of money
>>(from Germany!), but also the most intelligent group of immigrants,
>>and finally it brought to the country the machines and industrial
>>products essential for
>>development." The main advantage of the pact, the memo reported, was
>>the emigration of large numbers of Jews to Palestine, the most
>>desirable target country as
>>far as Germany was concerned. But the paper also noted the important
>>drawbacks pointed out by Consul D_hle and others. The Interior
>>Minister, it went on, had
>>concluded that the disadvantages of the agreement now outweighed the
>>advantages and that, therefore, it should be terminated. 36
>>
>>Only one man could resolve the controversy. Hitler personally reviewed
>>the policy in July and September 1937, and again in January 1938, and
>>each time decided
>>to maintain the Ha'avara arrangement. The goal of removing Jews from
>>Germany, he concluded, justified the drawbacks. 37
>>
>>The Reich Economics Ministry helped to organize another transfer
>>company, the International Trade and Investment Agency, or Intria,
>>through which Jews in
>>foreign countries could help German Jews emigrate to Palestine. Almost
>>$900,000 was eventually channeled through the Intria to German Jews in
>>Palestine.38
>>
>>Other European countries eager to encourage Jewish emigration
>>concluded agreements with the Zionists modeled after the Ha'avara. In
>>1937 Poland authorized the
>>Halifin (Hebrew for "exchange") transfer company. By late summer 1939,
>>Czechoslovakia, Romania, Hungary and Italy had signed similar
>>arrangements.
>>
>>The outbreak of war in September 1939, however, prevented large-scale
>>implementation of these agreements. 39
>>
>>Achievements of Ha'avara
>>
>>Between 1933 and 1941, some 60,000 German Jews emigrated to Palestine
>>through the Ha'avara and other German-Zionist arrangements, or about
>>ten percent of Germany's 1933 Jewish population. (These German Jews
>>made up about 15 percent
>>of Palestine's 1939 Jewish population.) Some Ha'avara emigrants
>>transferred considerable personal wealth from Germany to Palestine. As
>>Jewish historian Edwin Black has noted: "Many of these people,
>>especially in the late 1930s, were
>>allowed to transfer actual replicas of their homes and factories -
>>indeed rough replicas of their very existence."40
>>
>>The total amount transferred from Germany to Palestine through the
>>Ha'avara between August 1933 and the end of 1939 was 8.1 million
>>pounds or 139.57 million
>>German marks (then equivalent to more than $40 million). This amount
>>included 33.9 million German marks ($13.8 million) provided by the
>>Reichsbank in connection with the Agreement.41
>>
>>Historian Black has estimated that an additional $70 million may have
>>flowed into Palestine through corollary German commercial agreements
>>and special international banking transactions. The German funds had a
>>major impact on a
>>country as underdeveloped as Palestine was in the 1930s, he pointed
>>out.
>>
>>Several major industrial enterprises were built with the capital from
>>Germany, including the Mekoroth waterworks and the Lodzia textile
>>firm. The influx of Ha'avara goods
>>and capital, concluded Black, "produced an economic explosion in
>>Jewish Palestine" and was "an indispensable factor in the creation of
>>the State of Israel."42
>>
>>The Ha'avara agreement greatly contributed to Jewish development in
>>Palestine and thus, indirectly, to the foundation of the Israeli
>>state. A January 1939 German
>>Foreign Office circular bulletin reported, with some misgiving, that
>>"the transfer of Jewish property out of Germany [through the Ha'avara
>>agreement] contributed to
>>no small extent to the building of a Jewish state in Palestine."43
>>
>>Former officials of the Ha'avara company in Palestine confirmed this
>>view in a detailed study of the Transfer Agreement published in 1972:
>>"The economic activity
>>made possible by the influx German capital and the Haavara transfers
>>to the private and public sectors were of greatest importance for the
>>country's development.
>>
>>Many new industries and commercial enterprises were established in
>>Jewish Palestine, and numerous companies that are enormously important
>>even today in the
>>economy of the State of Israel owe their existence to the Haavara."44 
>>
>>Dr.Ludwig Pinner, a Ha'avara company official in Tel Aviv during the
>>1930s, later commented that the exceptionally competent Ha'avara
>>immigrants "decisively
>>contributed" to the economic, social, cultural and educational
>>development of Palestine's Jewish community.45
>>
>>The Transfer Agreement was the most far-reaching example of
>>cooperation between Hitler's Germany and international Zionism.
>>Through this pact, Hitler's Third
>>Reich did more than any other government during the 1930s to support
>>Jewish development in Palestine.
>>
>>Zionists Offer a Military Alliance With Hitler
>>
>>In early January 1941 a small but important Zionist organization
>>submitted a formal proposal to German diplomats in Beirut for a
>>military-political alliance with wartime Germany. The offer was made
>>by the radical underground "Fighters for
>>the Freedom of Israel," better known as the Lehi or Stern Gang. Its
>>leader, Avraham Stern, had recently broken with the radical
>>nationalist "National Military Organization" (Irgun Zvai Leumi) over
>>the group's attitude toward Britain, which
>>had effectively banned further Jewish settlement of Palestine. Stern
>>regarded Britain as the main enemy of Zionism.
>>
>>This remarkable Zionist proposal "for the solution of the Jewish
>>question in Europe and the active participation of the NMO [Lehi] in
>>the war on the side of
>>Germany" is worth quoting at some length:46
>>
>>In their speeches and statements, the leading statesmen of National
>>Socialist Germany have often emphasized that a New Order in Europe
>>requires as  a prerequisite a radical solution of the Jewish question
>>by evacuation.("Jew-free Europe")
>>
>>The evacuation of the Jewish masses from Europe is a precondition for
>>solving the Jewish question. However, the only way this can be totally
>>achieved  is through settlement of these masses in the homeland of the
>>Jewish people, Palestine, and by the establishment of a Jewish state
>>in its historical boundaries.
>>
>>The goal of the political activity and the years of struggle by the
>>Israel Freedom Movement, the National Military Organization in
>>Palestine (Irgun Zvai Leumi), is to solve the Jewish problem in this
>>way and thus completely liberate the Jewish people forever.
>>
>>The NMO, which is very familiar with the good will of the German Reich
>>government and its officials towards Zionist activities within Germany
>>and the  Zionist emigration program, takes that view that:
>>
>>
>>
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On Sun, 27 Dec 1998 01:19:05 GMT, elieK@nazikor.nizkook.org wrote:
>On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 15:05:05 GMT, bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote:
>>On Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:40:38 -0600, freespeech1@mailexcite.com wrote:

>>Zionism and the Third Reich

>>Mark Weber

>>Early in 1935, a passenger ship bound for Haifa in Palestine left the
>>German
>>port of Bremerhaven. Its stern bore the Hebrew letters for its name,
>>"Tel Aviv," while a
>>swastika banner fluttered from the mast. And although the ship was
>>Zionist-owned, its captain was a National Socialist Party member. Many
>>years later a traveler
>>aboard the ship recalled this symbolic combination as a "metaphysical
>>absurdity."1 Absurd or not, this is but one vignette from a
>>little-known chapter of history: The
>>wide-ranging collaboration between Zionism and Hitler's Third Reich.
>>
>>Common Aims
>>
>>Over the years, people in many different countries have wrestled with
>>the "Jewish question": that is, what is the proper role of Jews in
>>non-Jewish society? During
>>the 1930s, Jewish Zionists and German National Socialists shared
>>similar views on how to deal with this perplexing issue. They agreed
>>that Jews and Germans were
>>distinctly different nationalities, and that Jews did not belong in
>>Germany.
>>Jews living in the Reich were therefore to be regarded not as "Germans
>>of the Jewish faith," but rather as members of a separate national
>>community. Zionism (Jewish nationalism) also implied an obligation by
>>Zionist Jews to resettle in Palestine, the
>>"Jewish homeland." They could hardly regard themselves as sincere
>>Zionists and simultaneously claim equal rights in Germany or any other
>>"foreign" country.
>>
>>Theodor Herzl (1860-1904), the founder of modern Zionism, maintained
>>that anti-Semitism is not an aberration, but a natural and completely
>>understandable response by non-Jews to alien Jewish behavior and
>>attitudes. The only solution, he argued, is for Jews to recognize
>>reality and live in a separate state of their own.
>>
>>"The Jewish question exists wherever Jews live in noticeable numbers,"
>>he wrote in his most influential work, The Jewish State. "Where it
>>does not exist, it is brought
>>in by arriving Jews. . . . I believe I understand anti-Semitism, which
>>is a very complex phenomenon. I consider this development as a Jew,
>>without hate or fear." The Jewish question, he maintained, is not
>>social or religious. "It is a national
>>question. To solve it we must, above all, make it an international
>>political issue. . . ."
>>
>>Regardless of their citizenship, Herzl insisted, Jews constitute not
>>merely a religious community, but a nationality, a people, a Volk.
>>Zionism, wrote Herzl, offered
>>the world a welcome "final solution of the Jewish question."
>>
>>
>>Six months after Hitler came to power, the Zionist Federation of
>>Germany (by far the largest Zionist group in the country) submitted a
>>detailed memorandum to the
>>new government that reviewed German-Jewish relations and formally
>>offered Zionist support in "solving" the vexing "Jewish question." The
>>first step, it suggested,
>>had to be a frank recognition of fundamental national differences: 4
>>
>>Zionism has no illusions about the difficulty of the Jewish condition,
>>which consists above all in an abnormal occupational pattern and in
>>the fault of an intellectual and moral posture not rooted in one's own
>>tradition. Zionism
>>recognized decades ago that as a result of the assimilationist trend,
>>symptoms of deterioration were bound to appear . . .
>>
>>Zionism believes that the rebirth of the national life of a people,
>>which is now occurring in Germany through the emphasis on its
>>Christian and national
>>character, must also come about in the Jewish national group. For the
>>Jewish people, too, national origin, religion, common destiny and a
>>sense of its uniqueness must be of decisive importance in the shaping
>>of its existence. This means that the egotistical individualism of the
>>liberal era must be overcome and replaced with a sense of community
>>and collective responsibility . . .
>>
>>We believe it is precisely the new [National Socialist] Germany that
>>can, through bold resoluteness in the handling of the Jewish question,
>>take a decisive step toward overcoming a problem which, in truth, will
>>have to be dealt with by most European peoples . . .
>>
>>Our acknowledgment of Jewish nationality provides for a clear and
>>sincere relationship to the German people and its national and racial
>>realities.
>>
>>Precisely because we do not wish to falsify these fundamentals,
>>because we, too, are against mixed marriage and are for maintaining
>>the purity of the Jewish group and reject any trespasses in the
>>cultural domain, we - having been brought up in the German language
>>and German culture - can show an
>> interest in the works and values of German culture with admiration
>>and internal sympathy . . .
>>
>>For its practical aims, Zionism hopes to be able to win the
>>collaboration of even a government fundamentally hostile to Jews,
>>because in dealing with the Jewish question not sentimentalities are
>>involved but a real problem
>>whose solution interests all peoples and at the present moment
>>especially the  German people . . .
>>
>>Boycott propaganda - such as is currently being carried on against
>>Germany in many ways - is in essence un-Zionist, because Zionism wants
>>not to do battle but to convince and to build . . .
>>
>>We are not blind to the fact that a Jewish question exists and will
>>continue to exist. From the abnormal situation of the Jews severe
>>disadvantages result  for them, but also scarcely tolerable conditions
>>for other peoples.
>>
>>The Federation's paper, the Jüdische Rundschau ("Jewish Review"),
>>proclaimed the same message: "Zionism recognizes the existence of a
>>Jewish problem and
>>desires a far-reaching and constructive solution. For this purpose
>>Zionism wishes to obtain the assistance of all peoples, whether pro-
>>or anti-Jewish, because, in its
>>view, we are dealing here with a concrete rather than a sentimental
>>problem, the solution of which all peoples are interested."5 A young
>>Berlin rabbi, Joachim Prinz,
>>who later settled in the United States and became head of the American
>>Jewish Congress, wrote in his 1934 book, Wir Juden ("We Jews"), that
>>the National Socialist revolution in Germany meant "Jewry for the
>>Jews." He explained: "No
>>subterfuge can save us now. In place of assimilation we desire a new
>>concept: recognition of the Jewish nation and Jewish race." 6
>>
>>Active Collaboration
>>
>>On this basis of their similar ideologies about ethnicity and
>>nationhood, National Socialists and Zionists worked together for what
>>each group believed was in its own
>>national interest. As a result, the Hitler government vigorously
>>supported Zionism and Jewish emigration to Palestine from 1933 until
>>1940-1941, when the Second
>>World War prevented extensive collaboration.
>>
>>Even as the Third Reich became more entrenched, many German Jews,
>>probably a majority, continued to regard themselves, often with
>>considerable pride, as Germans first. Few were enthusiastic about
>>pulling up roots to begin a new
>>life in far-away Palestine. Nevertheless, more and more German Jews
>>turned to Zionism
>>during this period. Until late 1938, the Zionist movement flourished
>>in Germany under Hitler. The circulation of the Zionist Federation's
>>bi-weekly Judische Rundschau grew enormously. Numerous Zionist books
>>were published. "Zionist
>>work was in full swing" in Germany during those years, the
>>Encyclopaedia Judaica
>>notes. A Zionist convention held in Berlin in 1936 reflected "in its
>>composition the vigorous party life of German Zionists."7
>>
>>The SS was particularly enthusiastic in its support for Zionism. An
>>internal June 1934 SS position paper urged active and wide-ranging
>>support for Zionism by the
>>government and the Party as the best way to encourage emigration of
>>Germany's Jews to Palestine. This would require increased Jewish
>>self-awareness. Jewish
>>schools, Jewish sports leagues, Jewish cultural organizations - in
>>short, everything that would encourage this new consciousness and
>>self-awareness - should be
>>promoted, the paper recommended.8
>>
>>SS officer Leopold von Mildenstein and Zionist Federation official
>>Kurt Tuchler toured Palestine together for six months to assess
>>Zionist development there. Based
>>on his firsthand observations, von Mildenstein wrote a series of
>>twelve illustrated articles for the important Berlin daily Der Angriff
>>that appeared in late 1934 under
>>the heading "A Nazi Travels to Palestine." The series expressed great
>>admiration for the pioneering spirit and achievements of the Jewish
>>settlers. Zionist self-development, von Mildenstein wrote, had
>>produced a new kind of Jew. He
>>praised Zionism as a great benefit for both the Jewish people and the
>>entire world.
>>
>>A Jewish homeland in Palestine, he wrote in his concluding article,
>>"pointed the way to curing a centuries-long wound on the body of the
>>world: the Jewish
>>question." Der Angriff issued a special medal, with a Swastika on one
>>side and a Star of David on the other, to commemorate the joint
>>SS-Zionist visit. A few months after the articles appeared, von
>>Mildenstein was promoted to head the
>>Jewish affairs department of the SS security service in order to
>>support Zionist migration and development more effectively. 9
>>
>>The official SS newspaper, Das Schwarze Korps, proclaimed its support
>>for Zionism in a May 1935 front-page editorial: "The time may not be
>>too far off when Palestine will again be able to receive its sons who
>>have been lost to it for
>>more than a thousand years. Our good wishes, together with official
>>goodwill, go with them."10
>>
>>Four months later, a similar article appeared in the SS paper: 11
>>
>>The recognition of Jewry as a racial community based on blood and not
>>on religion leads the German government to guarantee without
>>reservation the racial separateness of this community. The government
>>finds itself in complete agreement with the great spiritual movement
>>within Jewry, the so-called
>>Zionism, with its recognition of the solidarity of Jewry around the
>>world and its rejection of all assimilationist notions. On this basis,
>>Germany undertakes measures that will surely play a significant role
>>in the future in the handling of the Jewish problem around the world.
>>
>>A leading German shipping line began direct passenger liner service
>>from Hamburg to Haifa, Palestine, in October 1933 providing "strictly
>>kosher food on its ships,
>>under the supervision of the Hamburg rabbinate." 12
>>
>>With official backing, Zionists worked tirelessly to "reeducate"
>>Germany's Jews. As American historian Francis Nicosia put it in his
>>1985 survey, The Third Reich
>>and the Palestine Question: "Zionists were encouraged to take their
>>message to the Jewish community, to collect money, to show films on
>>Palestine and generally to
>>educate German Jews about Palestine. There was considerable pressure
>>to teach Jews in Germany to cease identifying themselves as Germans
>>and to awaken a new Jewish national identity in them." 13
>>
>>In an interview after the war, the former head of the Zionist
>>Federation of Germany, Dr. Hans Friedenthal, summed up the situation:
>>"The Gestapo did everything in
>>those days to promote emigration, particularly to Palestine. We often
>>received their help when we required anything from other authorities
>>regarding preparations for emigration." 14
>>
>>At the September 1935 National Socialist Party Congress, the Reichstag
>>adopted the so-called "Nuremberg laws" that prohibited marriages and
>>sexual relations between Jews and Germans and, in effect, proclaimed
>>the Jews an alien minority
>>nationality. A few days later the Zionist Judische Rundschau
>>editorially welcomed the new measures: 15
>>
>>Germany . . . is meeting the demands of the World Zionist Congress
>>when it declares the Jews now living in Germany to be a national
>>minority. Once the Jews have been stamped a national minority it is
>>again possible to
>>establish normal relations between the German nation and Jewry. The
>>new laws  give the Jewish minority in Germany its own cultural life,
>>its own national life. In future it will be able to shape its own
>>schools, its own theatre, and its
>>own sports associations. In short, it can create its own future in all
>>aspects of national life . . .
>>
>>Germany has given the Jewish minority the opportunity to live for
>>itself, and is offering state protection for this separate life of the
>>Jewish minority:
>>
>>Jewry's process of growth into a nation will thereby be encouraged and
>>a contribution will be made to the establishment of more tolerable
>>relations   between the two nations.
>>
>>Georg Kareski, the head of both the "Revisionist" Zionist State
>>Organization and the Jewish Cultural League, and former head of the
>>Berlin Jewish Community,
>>declared in an interview with the Berlin daily Der Angriff at the end
>>of 1935:  16
>>
>>For many years I have regarded a complete separation of the cultural
>>affairs of the two peoples [Jews and Germans] as a pre-condition for
>>living  together without conflict. . . . I have long supported such a
>>separation,  provided it is founded on respect for the alien
>>nationality. The Nuremberg Laws
>>     . . . seem to me, apart from their legal provisions, to conform
>>entirely with this desire for a separate life based on mutual respect.
>>. . . This interruption
>>of the process of dissolution in many Jewish communities, which had
>>been promoted through mixed marriages, is therefore, from a Jewish
>>point of view, entirely welcome.
>>
>>Zionist leaders in other countries echoed these views. Stephen S.
>>Wise, president of the American Jewish Congress and the World Jewish
>>Congress, told   a New
>>York rally in June 1938: "I am not an American citizen of the Jewish
>>faith, I am a Jew. . . . Hitler was right in one thing. He calls the
>>Jewish people a race and we are a race." 17
>>
>>The Interior Ministry's Jewish affairs specialist, Dr. Bernhard
>>L_sener,
>>expressed support for Zionism in an article that appeared in a
>>November 1935 issue of the
>>official Reichsverwaltungsblatt: 18
>>
>>If the Jews already had their own state in which the majority of them
>>were settled, then the Jewish question could be regarded as completely
>>resolved  today, also for the Jews themselves. The least amount of
>>opposition to
>>the ideas underlying the Nuremberg Laws have been shown by the
>>Zionists,  because they realize at once that these laws represent the
>>only correct solution for the Jewish people as well. For each nation
>>must have its own state as the outward expression of its particular
>>nationhood.
>>
>>In cooperation with the German authorities, Zionist groups organized a
>>network of some forty camps and agricultural centers throughout
>>Germany where
>>prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine.
>>Although the Nuremberg Laws forbid Jews from displaying the German
>>flag, Jews were specifically
>>guaranteed the right to display the blue and white Jewish national
>>banner. The flag that would one day be adopted by Israel was flown at
>>the Zionist camps and centers in Hitler's Germany. 19
>>
>>Himmler's security service cooperated with the Haganah, the Zionist
>>underground military organization in Palestine. The SS agency paid
>>Haganah official Feivel
>>Polkes for information about the situation in Palestine and for help
>>in directing Jewish emigration to that country. Meanwhile, the Haganah
>>was kept well informed
>>about German plans by a spy it managed to plant in the Berlin
>>headquarters of the SS.20 Haganah-SS collaboration even included
>>secret deliveries of German
>>weapons to Jewish settlers for use in clashes with Palestinian Arabs.
>>21
>>
>>In the aftermath of the November 1938 "Kristallnacht" outburst of
>>violence and destruction, the SS quickly helped the Zionist
>>organization to get back on its feet
>>and continue its work in Germany, although now under more restricted
>>supervision. 22
>>
>>Official Reservations
>>
>>German support for Zionism was not unlimited. Government and Party
>>officials were very mindful of the continuing campaign by powerful
>>Jewish communities in the
>>United States, Britain and other countries to mobilize "their"
>>governments and
>>fellow citizens against Germany. As long as world Jewry remained
>>implacably hostile
>>towards National Socialist Germany, and as long as the great majority
>>of Jews around the world showed little eagerness to resettle in the
>>Zionist "promised land," a
>>sovereign Jewish state in Palestine would not really "solve" the
>>international Jewish question. Instead, German officials reasoned, it
>>would immeasurably strengthen this dangerous anti-German campaign.
>>German backing for Zionism was therefore
>>limited to support for a Jewish homeland in Palestine under British
>>control, not a sovereign Jewish state. 23
>>
>>A Jewish state in Palestine, the Foreign Minister informed diplomats
>>in June 1937, would not be in Germany's interest because it would not
>>be able to absorb all
>>Jews around the world, but would only serve as an additional power
>>base for international Jewry, in much the same way as Moscow served as
>>a base for international Communism.24 
>>
>>Reflecting something of a shift in official policy,
>>the German press expressed much greater sympathy in 1937 for
>>Palestinian Arab resistance to Zionist ambitions, at a time when
>>tension and conflict between
>>Jews and Arabs in Palestine was sharply increasing. 25
>>
>>A Foreign Office circular bulletin of June 22, 1937, cautioned that in
>>spite of support for Jewish settlement in Palestine, "it would
>>nevertheless be a mistake to
>>assume that Germany supports the formation of a state structure in
>>Palestine under some form of Jewish control. In view of the
>>anti-German agitation of international
>>Jewry, Germany cannot agree that the formation of a Palestine Jewish
>>state would help the peaceful development of the nations of the
>>world."26 "
>>
>>The proclamation
>>of a Jewish state or a Jewish-administrated Palestine," warned an
>>internal memorandum by the Jewish affairs section of the SS, "would
>>create for Germany a new
>>enemy, one that would have a deep influence on developments in the
>>Near East."
>>
>>Another SS agency predicted that a Jewish state "would work to bring
>>special minority protection to Jews in every country, therefore giving
>>legal protection to the exploitation activity of world Jewry."27 In
>>January 1939,
>>
>>Hitler's new Foreign Minister, Joachim von Ribbentrop, likewise warned
>>in another circular bulletin that "Germany must regard the formation
>>of a Jewish state as dangerous" because it
>>"would bring an international increase in power to world Jewry." 28
>>
>>Hitler himself personally reviewed this entire issue in early 1938
>>and, in spite of his long-standing skepticism of Zionist ambitions and
>>misgivings that his policies might
>>contribute to the formation of a Jewish state, decided to support
>>Jewish migration to Palestine even more vigorously. The prospect of
>>ridding Germany of its Jews,
>>he concluded, outweighed the possible dangers. 29
>>
>>Meanwhile, the British government imposed ever more drastic
>>restrictions on Jewish immigration into Palestine in 1937, 1938 and
>>1939. In response, the SS
>>security service concluded a secret alliance with the clandestine
>>Zionist agency Mossad le-Aliya Bet to smuggle Jews illegally into
>>Palestine. As a result of this intensive collaboration, several
>>convoys of ships succeeded in reaching
>>Palestine past British gunboats. Jewish migration, both legal and
>>illegal, from Germany
>>(including Austria) to Palestine increased dramatically in 1938 and
>>1939.
>>
>>Another 10,000 Jews were scheduled to depart in October 1939, but the
>>outbreak of war in September brought the effort to an end. All the
>>same, German authorities continued to promote indirect Jewish
>>emigration to Palestine during 1940 and 1941. 30
>>
>>Even as late as March 1942, at least one officially authorized Zionist
>>"kibbutz" training camp for potential emigrants continued to operate
>>in Hitler's Germany. 31
>>
>>The Transfer Agreement
>>
>>The centerpiece of German-Zionist cooperation during the Hitler era
>>was theTransfer Agreement, a pact that enabled tens of thousands of
>>German Jews to migrate
>>to Palestine with their wealth. The Agreement, also known as the
>>Ha'avara (Hebrew for "transfer"), was concluded in August 1933
>>following talks between German
>>officials and Chaim Arlosoroff, Political Secretary of the Jewish
>>Agency, the Palestine center of the World Zionist Organization. 32
>>
>>Through this unusual arrangement, each Jew bound for Palestine
>>deposited money in a special account in Germany. The money was used to
>>purchase German-made agricultural tools, building materials, pumps,
>>fertilizer, and so
>>forth, which were exported to Palestine and sold there by the
>>Jewish-owned Ha'avara
>>company in Tel-Aviv. Money from the sales was given to the Jewish
>>emigrant upon his arrival in Palestine in an amount corresponding to
>>his deposit in Germany.
>>
>>German goods poured into Palestine through the Ha'avara, which was
>>supplemented a short time later with a barter agreement by which
>>Palestine oranges were
>>exchanged for German timber, automobiles, agricultural machinery, and
>>other goods. The Agreement thus served the Zionist aim of bringing
>>Jewish settlers and
>>development capital to Palestine, while simultaneously serving the
>>German goal of freeing the country of an unwanted alien group.
>>
>>Delegates at the 1933 Zionist Congress in Prague vigorously debated
>>the merits of the Agreement. Some feared that the pact would undermine
>>the international
>>Jewish economic boycott against Germany. But Zionist officials
>>reassured the Congress. Sam Cohen, a key figure behind the Ha'avara
>>arrangement, stressed that
>>the Agreement was not economically advantageous to Germany. Arthur
>>Ruppin, a Zionist Organization emigration specialist who had helped
>>negotiate the pact,
>>pointed out that "the Transfer Agreement in no way interfered with the
>>boycott movement, since no new currency will flow into Germany as a
>>result of the agreement. . . ." 33 The 1935 Zionist Congress, meeting
>>in Switzerland,
>>overwhelmingly endorsed the pact. In 1936, the Jewish Agency (the
>>Zionist "shadow
>>government" in Palestine) took over direct control of the Ha'avara,
>>which remained in effect until the Second World War forced its
>>abandonment.
>>
>>Some German officials opposed the arrangement. Germany's Consul
>>General in Jerusalem, Hans D_hle, for example, sharply criticized the
>>Agreement on several
>>occasions during 1937. He pointed out that it cost Germany the foreign
>>exchange that the products exported to Palestine through the pact
>>would bring if sold elsewhere. The Ha'avara monopoly sale of German
>>goods to Palestine through a
>>Jewish agency naturally angered German businessmen and Arabs there.
>>Official German support for Zionism could lead to a loss of German
>>markets throughout the Arab world. The British government also
>>resented the arrangement.34 
>>
>>A June 1937 German Foreign Office internal bulletin referred to the
>>"foreign exchange sacrifices" that resulted from the Ha'avara. 35
>>
>>A December 1937 internal memorandum by the German Interior Ministry
>>reviewed the impact of the Transfer Agreement: "There is no doubt that
>>the Ha'avara arrangement has contributed most significantly to the
>>very rapid development of Palestine since 1933. The Agreement provided
>>not only the largest source of money
>>(from Germany!), but also the most intelligent group of immigrants,
>>and finally it brought to the country the machines and industrial
>>products essential for
>>development." The main advantage of the pact, the memo reported, was
>>the emigration of large numbers of Jews to Palestine, the most
>>desirable target country as
>>far as Germany was concerned. But the paper also noted the important
>>drawbacks pointed out by Consul D_hle and others. The Interior
>>Minister, it went on, had
>>concluded that the disadvantages of the agreement now outweighed the
>>advantages and that, therefore, it should be terminated. 36
>>
>>Only one man could resolve the controversy. Hitler personally reviewed
>>the policy in July and September 1937, and again in January 1938, and
>>each time decided
>>to maintain the Ha'avara arrangement. The goal of removing Jews from
>>Germany, he concluded, justified the drawbacks. 37
>>
>>The Reich Economics Ministry helped to organize another transfer
>>company, the International Trade and Investment Agency, or Intria,
>>through which Jews in
>>foreign countries could help German Jews emigrate to Palestine. Almost
>>$900,000 was eventually channeled through the Intria to German Jews in
>>Palestine.38
>>
>>Other European countries eager to encourage Jewish emigration
>>concluded agreements with the Zionists modeled after the Ha'avara. In
>>1937 Poland authorized the
>>Halifin (Hebrew for "exchange") transfer company. By late summer 1939,
>>Czechoslovakia, Romania, Hungary and Italy had signed similar
>>arrangements.
>>
>>The outbreak of war in September 1939, however, prevented large-scale
>>implementation of these agreements. 39
>>
>>Achievements of Ha'avara
>>
>>Between 1933 and 1941, some 60,000 German Jews emigrated to Palestine
>>through the Ha'avara and other German-Zionist arrangements, or about
>>ten percent of Germany's 1933 Jewish population. (These German Jews
>>made up about 15 percent
>>of Palestine's 1939 Jewish population.) Some Ha'avara emigrants
>>transferred considerable personal wealth from Germany to Palestine. As
>>Jewish historian Edwin Black has noted: "Many of these people,
>>especially in the late 1930s, were
>>allowed to transfer actual replicas of their homes and factories -
>>indeed rough replicas of their very existence."40
>>
>>The total amount transferred from Germany to Palestine through the
>>Ha'avara between August 1933 and the end of 1939 was 8.1 million
>>pounds or 139.57 million
>>German marks (then equivalent to more than $40 million). This amount
>>included 33.9 million German marks ($13.8 million) provided by the
>>Reichsbank in connection with the Agreement.41
>>
>>Historian Black has estimated that an additional $70 million may have
>>flowed into Palestine through corollary German commercial agreements
>>and special international banking transactions. The German funds had a
>>major impact on a
>>country as underdeveloped as Palestine was in the 1930s, he pointed
>>out.
>>
>>Several major industrial enterprises were built with the capital from
>>Germany, including the Mekoroth waterworks and the Lodzia textile
>>firm. The influx of Ha'avara goods
>>and capital, concluded Black, "produced an economic explosion in
>>Jewish Palestine" and was "an indispensable factor in the creation of
>>the State of Israel."42
>>
>>The Ha'avara agreement greatly contributed to Jewish development in
>>Palestine and thus, indirectly, to the foundation of the Israeli
>>state. A January 1939 German
>>Foreign Office circular bulletin reported, with some misgiving, that
>>"the transfer of Jewish property out of Germany [through the Ha'avara
>>agreement] contributed to
>>no small extent to the building of a Jewish state in Palestine."43
>>
>>Former officials of the Ha'avara company in Palestine confirmed this
>>view in a detailed study of the Transfer Agreement published in 1972:
>>"The economic activity
>>made possible by the influx German capital and the Haavara transfers
>>to the private and public sectors were of greatest importance for the
>>country's development.
>>
>>Many new industries and commercial enterprises were established in
>>Jewish Palestine, and numerous companies that are enormously important
>>even today in the
>>economy of the State of Israel owe their existence to the Haavara."44 
>>
>>Dr.Ludwig Pinner, a Ha'avara company official in Tel Aviv during the
>>1930s, later commented that the exceptionally competent Ha'avara
>>immigrants "decisively
>>contributed" to the economic, social, cultural and educational
>>development of Palestine's Jewish community.45
>>
>>The Transfer Agreement was the most far-reaching example of
>>cooperation between Hitler's Germany and international Zionism.
>>Through this pact, Hitler's Third
>>Reich did more than any other government during the 1930s to support
>>Jewish development in Palestine.
>>
>>Zionists Offer a Military Alliance With Hitler
>>
>>In early January 1941 a small but important Zionist organization
>>submitted a formal proposal to German diplomats in Beirut for a
>>military-political alliance with wartime Germany. The offer was made
>>by the radical underground "Fighters for
>>the Freedom of Israel," better known as the Lehi or Stern Gang. Its
>>leader, Avraham Stern, had recently broken with the radical
>>nationalist "National Military Organization" (Irgun Zvai Leumi) over
>>the group's attitude toward Britain, which
>>had effectively banned further Jewish settlement of Palestine. Stern
>>regarded Britain as the main enemy of Zionism.
>>
>>This remarkable Zionist proposal "for the solution of the Jewish
>>question in Europe and the active participation of the NMO [Lehi] in
>>the war on the side of
>>Germany" is worth quoting at some length:46
>>
>>In their speeches and statements, the leading statesmen of National
>>Socialist Germany have often emphasized that a New Order in Europe
>>requires as  a prerequisite a radical solution of the Jewish question
>>by evacuation.("Jew-free Europe")
>>
>>The evacuation of the Jewish masses from Europe is a precondition for
>>solving the Jewish question. However, the only way this can be totally
>>achieved  is through settlement of these masses in the homeland of the
>>Jewish people, Palestine, and by the establishment of a Jewish state
>>in its historical boundaries.
>>
>>The goal of the political activity and the years of struggle by the
>>Israel Freedom Movement, the National Military Organization in
>>Palestine (Irgun Zvai Leumi), is to solve the Jewish problem in this
>>way and thus completely liberate the Jewish people forever.
>>
>>The NMO, which is very familiar with the good will of the German Reich
>>government and its officials towards Zionist activities within Germany
>>and the  Zionist emigration program, takes that view that:
>>
>>
>>
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On Sun, 27 Dec 1998 01:19:05 GMT, elieK@nazikor.nizkook.org wrote:
>On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 15:05:05 GMT, bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote:
>>On Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:40:38 -0600, freespeech1@mailexcite.com wrote:

>>Zionism and the Third Reich

>>Mark Weber

>>Early in 1935, a passenger ship bound for Haifa in Palestine left the
>>German
>>port of Bremerhaven. Its stern bore the Hebrew letters for its name,
>>"Tel Aviv," while a
>>swastika banner fluttered from the mast. And although the ship was
>>Zionist-owned, its captain was a National Socialist Party member. Many
>>years later a traveler
>>aboard the ship recalled this symbolic combination as a "metaphysical
>>absurdity."1 Absurd or not, this is but one vignette from a
>>little-known chapter of history: The
>>wide-ranging collaboration between Zionism and Hitler's Third Reich.
>>
>>Common Aims
>>
>>Over the years, people in many different countries have wrestled with
>>the "Jewish question": that is, what is the proper role of Jews in
>>non-Jewish society? During
>>the 1930s, Jewish Zionists and German National Socialists shared
>>similar views on how to deal with this perplexing issue. They agreed
>>that Jews and Germans were
>>distinctly different nationalities, and that Jews did not belong in
>>Germany.
>>Jews living in the Reich were therefore to be regarded not as "Germans
>>of the Jewish faith," but rather as members of a separate national
>>community. Zionism (Jewish nationalism) also implied an obligation by
>>Zionist Jews to resettle in Palestine, the
>>"Jewish homeland." They could hardly regard themselves as sincere
>>Zionists and simultaneously claim equal rights in Germany or any other
>>"foreign" country.
>>
>>Theodor Herzl (1860-1904), the founder of modern Zionism, maintained
>>that anti-Semitism is not an aberration, but a natural and completely
>>understandable response by non-Jews to alien Jewish behavior and
>>attitudes. The only solution, he argued, is for Jews to recognize
>>reality and live in a separate state of their own.
>>
>>"The Jewish question exists wherever Jews live in noticeable numbers,"
>>he wrote in his most influential work, The Jewish State. "Where it
>>does not exist, it is brought
>>in by arriving Jews. . . . I believe I understand anti-Semitism, which
>>is a very complex phenomenon. I consider this development as a Jew,
>>without hate or fear." The Jewish question, he maintained, is not
>>social or religious. "It is a national
>>question. To solve it we must, above all, make it an international
>>political issue. . . ."
>>
>>Regardless of their citizenship, Herzl insisted, Jews constitute not
>>merely a religious community, but a nationality, a people, a Volk.
>>Zionism, wrote Herzl, offered
>>the world a welcome "final solution of the Jewish question."
>>
>>
>>Six months after Hitler came to power, the Zionist Federation of
>>Germany (by far the largest Zionist group in the country) submitted a
>>detailed memorandum to the
>>new government that reviewed German-Jewish relations and formally
>>offered Zionist support in "solving" the vexing "Jewish question." The
>>first step, it suggested,
>>had to be a frank recognition of fundamental national differences: 4
>>
>>Zionism has no illusions about the difficulty of the Jewish condition,
>>which consists above all in an abnormal occupational pattern and in
>>the fault of an intellectual and moral posture not rooted in one's own
>>tradition. Zionism
>>recognized decades ago that as a result of the assimilationist trend,
>>symptoms of deterioration were bound to appear . . .
>>
>>Zionism believes that the rebirth of the national life of a people,
>>which is now occurring in Germany through the emphasis on its
>>Christian and national
>>character, must also come about in the Jewish national group. For the
>>Jewish people, too, national origin, religion, common destiny and a
>>sense of its uniqueness must be of decisive importance in the shaping
>>of its existence. This means that the egotistical individualism of the
>>liberal era must be overcome and replaced with a sense of community
>>and collective responsibility . . .
>>
>>We believe it is precisely the new [National Socialist] Germany that
>>can, through bold resoluteness in the handling of the Jewish question,
>>take a decisive step toward overcoming a problem which, in truth, will
>>have to be dealt with by most European peoples . . .
>>
>>Our acknowledgment of Jewish nationality provides for a clear and
>>sincere relationship to the German people and its national and racial
>>realities.
>>
>>Precisely because we do not wish to falsify these fundamentals,
>>because we, too, are against mixed marriage and are for maintaining
>>the purity of the Jewish group and reject any trespasses in the
>>cultural domain, we - having been brought up in the German language
>>and German culture - can show an
>> interest in the works and values of German culture with admiration
>>and internal sympathy . . .
>>
>>For its practical aims, Zionism hopes to be able to win the
>>collaboration of even a government fundamentally hostile to Jews,
>>because in dealing with the Jewish question not sentimentalities are
>>involved but a real problem
>>whose solution interests all peoples and at the present moment
>>especially the  German people . . .
>>
>>Boycott propaganda - such as is currently being carried on against
>>Germany in many ways - is in essence un-Zionist, because Zionism wants
>>not to do battle but to convince and to build . . .
>>
>>We are not blind to the fact that a Jewish question exists and will
>>continue to exist. From the abnormal situation of the Jews severe
>>disadvantages result  for them, but also scarcely tolerable conditions
>>for other peoples.
>>
>>The Federation's paper, the Jüdische Rundschau ("Jewish Review"),
>>proclaimed the same message: "Zionism recognizes the existence of a
>>Jewish problem and
>>desires a far-reaching and constructive solution. For this purpose
>>Zionism wishes to obtain the assistance of all peoples, whether pro-
>>or anti-Jewish, because, in its
>>view, we are dealing here with a concrete rather than a sentimental
>>problem, the solution of which all peoples are interested."5 A young
>>Berlin rabbi, Joachim Prinz,
>>who later settled in the United States and became head of the American
>>Jewish Congress, wrote in his 1934 book, Wir Juden ("We Jews"), that
>>the National Socialist revolution in Germany meant "Jewry for the
>>Jews." He explained: "No
>>subterfuge can save us now. In place of assimilation we desire a new
>>concept: recognition of the Jewish nation and Jewish race." 6
>>
>>Active Collaboration
>>
>>On this basis of their similar ideologies about ethnicity and
>>nationhood, National Socialists and Zionists worked together for what
>>each group believed was in its own
>>national interest. As a result, the Hitler government vigorously
>>supported Zionism and Jewish emigration to Palestine from 1933 until
>>1940-1941, when the Second
>>World War prevented extensive collaboration.
>>
>>Even as the Third Reich became more entrenched, many German Jews,
>>probably a majority, continued to regard themselves, often with
>>considerable pride, as Germans first. Few were enthusiastic about
>>pulling up roots to begin a new
>>life in far-away Palestine. Nevertheless, more and more German Jews
>>turned to Zionism
>>during this period. Until late 1938, the Zionist movement flourished
>>in Germany under Hitler. The circulation of the Zionist Federation's
>>bi-weekly Judische Rundschau grew enormously. Numerous Zionist books
>>were published. "Zionist
>>work was in full swing" in Germany during those years, the
>>Encyclopaedia Judaica
>>notes. A Zionist convention held in Berlin in 1936 reflected "in its
>>composition the vigorous party life of German Zionists."7
>>
>>The SS was particularly enthusiastic in its support for Zionism. An
>>internal June 1934 SS position paper urged active and wide-ranging
>>support for Zionism by the
>>government and the Party as the best way to encourage emigration of
>>Germany's Jews to Palestine. This would require increased Jewish
>>self-awareness. Jewish
>>schools, Jewish sports leagues, Jewish cultural organizations - in
>>short, everything that would encourage this new consciousness and
>>self-awareness - should be
>>promoted, the paper recommended.8
>>
>>SS officer Leopold von Mildenstein and Zionist Federation official
>>Kurt Tuchler toured Palestine together for six months to assess
>>Zionist development there. Based
>>on his firsthand observations, von Mildenstein wrote a series of
>>twelve illustrated articles for the important Berlin daily Der Angriff
>>that appeared in late 1934 under
>>the heading "A Nazi Travels to Palestine." The series expressed great
>>admiration for the pioneering spirit and achievements of the Jewish
>>settlers. Zionist self-development, von Mildenstein wrote, had
>>produced a new kind of Jew. He
>>praised Zionism as a great benefit for both the Jewish people and the
>>entire world.
>>
>>A Jewish homeland in Palestine, he wrote in his concluding article,
>>"pointed the way to curing a centuries-long wound on the body of the
>>world: the Jewish
>>question." Der Angriff issued a special medal, with a Swastika on one
>>side and a Star of David on the other, to commemorate the joint
>>SS-Zionist visit. A few months after the articles appeared, von
>>Mildenstein was promoted to head the
>>Jewish affairs department of the SS security service in order to
>>support Zionist migration and development more effectively. 9
>>
>>The official SS newspaper, Das Schwarze Korps, proclaimed its support
>>for Zionism in a May 1935 front-page editorial: "The time may not be
>>too far off when Palestine will again be able to receive its sons who
>>have been lost to it for
>>more than a thousand years. Our good wishes, together with official
>>goodwill, go with them."10
>>
>>Four months later, a similar article appeared in the SS paper: 11
>>
>>The recognition of Jewry as a racial community based on blood and not
>>on religion leads the German government to guarantee without
>>reservation the racial separateness of this community. The government
>>finds itself in complete agreement with the great spiritual movement
>>within Jewry, the so-called
>>Zionism, with its recognition of the solidarity of Jewry around the
>>world and its rejection of all assimilationist notions. On this basis,
>>Germany undertakes measures that will surely play a significant role
>>in the future in the handling of the Jewish problem around the world.
>>
>>A leading German shipping line began direct passenger liner service
>>from Hamburg to Haifa, Palestine, in October 1933 providing "strictly
>>kosher food on its ships,
>>under the supervision of the Hamburg rabbinate." 12
>>
>>With official backing, Zionists worked tirelessly to "reeducate"
>>Germany's Jews. As American historian Francis Nicosia put it in his
>>1985 survey, The Third Reich
>>and the Palestine Question: "Zionists were encouraged to take their
>>message to the Jewish community, to collect money, to show films on
>>Palestine and generally to
>>educate German Jews about Palestine. There was considerable pressure
>>to teach Jews in Germany to cease identifying themselves as Germans
>>and to awaken a new Jewish national identity in them." 13
>>
>>In an interview after the war, the former head of the Zionist
>>Federation of Germany, Dr. Hans Friedenthal, summed up the situation:
>>"The Gestapo did everything in
>>those days to promote emigration, particularly to Palestine. We often
>>received their help when we required anything from other authorities
>>regarding preparations for emigration." 14
>>
>>At the September 1935 National Socialist Party Congress, the Reichstag
>>adopted the so-called "Nuremberg laws" that prohibited marriages and
>>sexual relations between Jews and Germans and, in effect, proclaimed
>>the Jews an alien minority
>>nationality. A few days later the Zionist Judische Rundschau
>>editorially welcomed the new measures: 15
>>
>>Germany . . . is meeting the demands of the World Zionist Congress
>>when it declares the Jews now living in Germany to be a national
>>minority. Once the Jews have been stamped a national minority it is
>>again possible to
>>establish normal relations between the German nation and Jewry. The
>>new laws  give the Jewish minority in Germany its own cultural life,
>>its own national life. In future it will be able to shape its own
>>schools, its own theatre, and its
>>own sports associations. In short, it can create its own future in all
>>aspects of national life . . .
>>
>>Germany has given the Jewish minority the opportunity to live for
>>itself, and is offering state protection for this separate life of the
>>Jewish minority:
>>
>>Jewry's process of growth into a nation will thereby be encouraged and
>>a contribution will be made to the establishment of more tolerable
>>relations   between the two nations.
>>
>>Georg Kareski, the head of both the "Revisionist" Zionist State
>>Organization and the Jewish Cultural League, and former head of the
>>Berlin Jewish Community,
>>declared in an interview with the Berlin daily Der Angriff at the end
>>of 1935:  16
>>
>>For many years I have regarded a complete separation of the cultural
>>affairs of the two peoples [Jews and Germans] as a pre-condition for
>>living  together without conflict. . . . I have long supported such a
>>separation,  provided it is founded on respect for the alien
>>nationality. The Nuremberg Laws
>>     . . . seem to me, apart from their legal provisions, to conform
>>entirely with this desire for a separate life based on mutual respect.
>>. . . This interruption
>>of the process of dissolution in many Jewish communities, which had
>>been promoted through mixed marriages, is therefore, from a Jewish
>>point of view, entirely welcome.
>>
>>Zionist leaders in other countries echoed these views. Stephen S.
>>Wise, president of the American Jewish Congress and the World Jewish
>>Congress, told   a New
>>York rally in June 1938: "I am not an American citizen of the Jewish
>>faith, I am a Jew. . . . Hitler was right in one thing. He calls the
>>Jewish people a race and we are a race." 17
>>
>>The Interior Ministry's Jewish affairs specialist, Dr. Bernhard
>>L_sener,
>>expressed support for Zionism in an article that appeared in a
>>November 1935 issue of the
>>official Reichsverwaltungsblatt: 18
>>
>>If the Jews already had their own state in which the majority of them
>>were settled, then the Jewish question could be regarded as completely
>>resolved  today, also for the Jews themselves. The least amount of
>>opposition to
>>the ideas underlying the Nuremberg Laws have been shown by the
>>Zionists,  because they realize at once that these laws represent the
>>only correct solution for the Jewish people as well. For each nation
>>must have its own state as the outward expression of its particular
>>nationhood.
>>
>>In cooperation with the German authorities, Zionist groups organized a
>>network of some forty camps and agricultural centers throughout
>>Germany where
>>prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine.
>>Although the Nuremberg Laws forbid Jews from displaying the German
>>flag, Jews were specifically
>>guaranteed the right to display the blue and white Jewish national
>>banner. The flag that would one day be adopted by Israel was flown at
>>the Zionist camps and centers in Hitler's Germany. 19
>>
>>Himmler's security service cooperated with the Haganah, the Zionist
>>underground military organization in Palestine. The SS agency paid
>>Haganah official Feivel
>>Polkes for information about the situation in Palestine and for help
>>in directing Jewish emigration to that country. Meanwhile, the Haganah
>>was kept well informed
>>about German plans by a spy it managed to plant in the Berlin
>>headquarters of the SS.20 Haganah-SS collaboration even included
>>secret deliveries of German
>>weapons to Jewish settlers for use in clashes with Palestinian Arabs.
>>21
>>
>>In the aftermath of the November 1938 "Kristallnacht" outburst of
>>violence and destruction, the SS quickly helped the Zionist
>>organization to get back on its feet
>>and continue its work in Germany, although now under more restricted
>>supervision. 22
>>
>>Official Reservations
>>
>>German support for Zionism was not unlimited. Government and Party
>>officials were very mindful of the continuing campaign by powerful
>>Jewish communities in the
>>United States, Britain and other countries to mobilize "their"
>>governments and
>>fellow citizens against Germany. As long as world Jewry remained
>>implacably hostile
>>towards National Socialist Germany, and as long as the great majority
>>of Jews around the world showed little eagerness to resettle in the
>>Zionist "promised land," a
>>sovereign Jewish state in Palestine would not really "solve" the
>>international Jewish question. Instead, German officials reasoned, it
>>would immeasurably strengthen this dangerous anti-German campaign.
>>German backing for Zionism was therefore
>>limited to support for a Jewish homeland in Palestine under British
>>control, not a sovereign Jewish state. 23
>>
>>A Jewish state in Palestine, the Foreign Minister informed diplomats
>>in June 1937, would not be in Germany's interest because it would not
>>be able to absorb all
>>Jews around the world, but would only serve as an additional power
>>base for international Jewry, in much the same way as Moscow served as
>>a base for international Communism.24 
>>
>>Reflecting something of a shift in official policy,
>>the German press expressed much greater sympathy in 1937 for
>>Palestinian Arab resistance to Zionist ambitions, at a time when
>>tension and conflict between
>>Jews and Arabs in Palestine was sharply increasing. 25
>>
>>A Foreign Office circular bulletin of June 22, 1937, cautioned that in
>>spite of support for Jewish settlement in Palestine, "it would
>>nevertheless be a mistake to
>>assume that Germany supports the formation of a state structure in
>>Palestine under some form of Jewish control. In view of the
>>anti-German agitation of international
>>Jewry, Germany cannot agree that the formation of a Palestine Jewish
>>state would help the peaceful development of the nations of the
>>world."26 "
>>
>>The proclamation
>>of a Jewish state or a Jewish-administrated Palestine," warned an
>>internal memorandum by the Jewish affairs section of the SS, "would
>>create for Germany a new
>>enemy, one that would have a deep influence on developments in the
>>Near East."
>>
>>Another SS agency predicted that a Jewish state "would work to bring
>>special minority protection to Jews in every country, therefore giving
>>legal protection to the exploitation activity of world Jewry."27 In
>>January 1939,
>>
>>Hitler's new Foreign Minister, Joachim von Ribbentrop, likewise warned
>>in another circular bulletin that "Germany must regard the formation
>>of a Jewish state as dangerous" because it
>>"would bring an international increase in power to world Jewry." 28
>>
>>Hitler himself personally reviewed this entire issue in early 1938
>>and, in spite of his long-standing skepticism of Zionist ambitions and
>>misgivings that his policies might
>>contribute to the formation of a Jewish state, decided to support
>>Jewish migration to Palestine even more vigorously. The prospect of
>>ridding Germany of its Jews,
>>he concluded, outweighed the possible dangers. 29
>>
>>Meanwhile, the British government imposed ever more drastic
>>restrictions on Jewish immigration into Palestine in 1937, 1938 and
>>1939. In response, the SS
>>security service concluded a secret alliance with the clandestine
>>Zionist agency Mossad le-Aliya Bet to smuggle Jews illegally into
>>Palestine. As a result of this intensive collaboration, several
>>convoys of ships succeeded in reaching
>>Palestine past British gunboats. Jewish migration, both legal and
>>illegal, from Germany
>>(including Austria) to Palestine increased dramatically in 1938 and
>>1939.
>>
>>Another 10,000 Jews were scheduled to depart in October 1939, but the
>>outbreak of war in September brought the effort to an end. All the
>>same, German authorities continued to promote indirect Jewish
>>emigration to Palestine during 1940 and 1941. 30
>>
>>Even as late as March 1942, at least one officially authorized Zionist
>>"kibbutz" training camp for potential emigrants continued to operate
>>in Hitler's Germany. 31
>>
>>The Transfer Agreement
>>
>>The centerpiece of German-Zionist cooperation during the Hitler era
>>was theTransfer Agreement, a pact that enabled tens of thousands of
>>German Jews to migrate
>>to Palestine with their wealth. The Agreement, also known as the
>>Ha'avara (Hebrew for "transfer"), was concluded in August 1933
>>following talks between German
>>officials and Chaim Arlosoroff, Political Secretary of the Jewish
>>Agency, the Palestine center of the World Zionist Organization. 32
>>
>>Through this unusual arrangement, each Jew bound for Palestine
>>deposited money in a special account in Germany. The money was used to
>>purchase German-made agricultural tools, building materials, pumps,
>>fertilizer, and so
>>forth, which were exported to Palestine and sold there by the
>>Jewish-owned Ha'avara
>>company in Tel-Aviv. Money from the sales was given to the Jewish
>>emigrant upon his arrival in Palestine in an amount corresponding to
>>his deposit in Germany.
>>
>>German goods poured into Palestine through the Ha'avara, which was
>>supplemented a short time later with a barter agreement by which
>>Palestine oranges were
>>exchanged for German timber, automobiles, agricultural machinery, and
>>other goods. The Agreement thus served the Zionist aim of bringing
>>Jewish settlers and
>>development capital to Palestine, while simultaneously serving the
>>German goal of freeing the country of an unwanted alien group.
>>
>>Delegates at the 1933 Zionist Congress in Prague vigorously debated
>>the merits of the Agreement. Some feared that the pact would undermine
>>the international
>>Jewish economic boycott against Germany. But Zionist officials
>>reassured the Congress. Sam Cohen, a key figure behind the Ha'avara
>>arrangement, stressed that
>>the Agreement was not economically advantageous to Germany. Arthur
>>Ruppin, a Zionist Organization emigration specialist who had helped
>>negotiate the pact,
>>pointed out that "the Transfer Agreement in no way interfered with the
>>boycott movement, since no new currency will flow into Germany as a
>>result of the agreement. . . ." 33 The 1935 Zionist Congress, meeting
>>in Switzerland,
>>overwhelmingly endorsed the pact. In 1936, the Jewish Agency (the
>>Zionist "shadow
>>government" in Palestine) took over direct control of the Ha'avara,
>>which remained in effect until the Second World War forced its
>>abandonment.
>>
>>Some German officials opposed the arrangement. Germany's Consul
>>General in Jerusalem, Hans D_hle, for example, sharply criticized the
>>Agreement on several
>>occasions during 1937. He pointed out that it cost Germany the foreign
>>exchange that the products exported to Palestine through the pact
>>would bring if sold elsewhere. The Ha'avara monopoly sale of German
>>goods to Palestine through a
>>Jewish agency naturally angered German businessmen and Arabs there.
>>Official German support for Zionism could lead to a loss of German
>>markets throughout the Arab world. The British government also
>>resented the arrangement.34 
>>
>>A June 1937 German Foreign Office internal bulletin referred to the
>>"foreign exchange sacrifices" that resulted from the Ha'avara. 35
>>
>>A December 1937 internal memorandum by the German Interior Ministry
>>reviewed the impact of the Transfer Agreement: "There is no doubt that
>>the Ha'avara arrangement has contributed most significantly to the
>>very rapid development of Palestine since 1933. The Agreement provided
>>not only the largest source of money
>>(from Germany!), but also the most intelligent group of immigrants,
>>and finally it brought to the country the machines and industrial
>>products essential for
>>development." The main advantage of the pact, the memo reported, was
>>the emigration of large numbers of Jews to Palestine, the most
>>desirable target country as
>>far as Germany was concerned. But the paper also noted the important
>>drawbacks pointed out by Consul D_hle and others. The Interior
>>Minister, it went on, had
>>concluded that the disadvantages of the agreement now outweighed the
>>advantages and that, therefore, it should be terminated. 36
>>
>>Only one man could resolve the controversy. Hitler personally reviewed
>>the policy in July and September 1937, and again in January 1938, and
>>each time decided
>>to maintain the Ha'avara arrangement. The goal of removing Jews from
>>Germany, he concluded, justified the drawbacks. 37
>>
>>The Reich Economics Ministry helped to organize another transfer
>>company, the International Trade and Investment Agency, or Intria,
>>through which Jews in
>>foreign countries could help German Jews emigrate to Palestine. Almost
>>$900,000 was eventually channeled through the Intria to German Jews in
>>Palestine.38
>>
>>Other European countries eager to encourage Jewish emigration
>>concluded agreements with the Zionists modeled after the Ha'avara. In
>>1937 Poland authorized the
>>Halifin (Hebrew for "exchange") transfer company. By late summer 1939,
>>Czechoslovakia, Romania, Hungary and Italy had signed similar
>>arrangements.
>>
>>The outbreak of war in September 1939, however, prevented large-scale
>>implementation of these agreements. 39
>>
>>Achievements of Ha'avara
>>
>>Between 1933 and 1941, some 60,000 German Jews emigrated to Palestine
>>through the Ha'avara and other German-Zionist arrangements, or about
>>ten percent of Germany's 1933 Jewish population. (These German Jews
>>made up about 15 percent
>>of Palestine's 1939 Jewish population.) Some Ha'avara emigrants
>>transferred considerable personal wealth from Germany to Palestine. As
>>Jewish historian Edwin Black has noted: "Many of these people,
>>especially in the late 1930s, were
>>allowed to transfer actual replicas of their homes and factories -
>>indeed rough replicas of their very existence."40
>>
>>The total amount transferred from Germany to Palestine through the
>>Ha'avara between August 1933 and the end of 1939 was 8.1 million
>>pounds or 139.57 million
>>German marks (then equivalent to more than $40 million). This amount
>>included 33.9 million German marks ($13.8 million) provided by the
>>Reichsbank in connection with the Agreement.41
>>
>>Historian Black has estimated that an additional $70 million may have
>>flowed into Palestine through corollary German commercial agreements
>>and special international banking transactions. The German funds had a
>>major impact on a
>>country as underdeveloped as Palestine was in the 1930s, he pointed
>>out.
>>
>>Several major industrial enterprises were built with the capital from
>>Germany, including the Mekoroth waterworks and the Lodzia textile
>>firm. The influx of Ha'avara goods
>>and capital, concluded Black, "produced an economic explosion in
>>Jewish Palestine" and was "an indispensable factor in the creation of
>>the State of Israel."42
>>
>>The Ha'avara agreement greatly contributed to Jewish development in
>>Palestine and thus, indirectly, to the foundation of the Israeli
>>state. A January 1939 German
>>Foreign Office circular bulletin reported, with some misgiving, that
>>"the transfer of Jewish property out of Germany [through the Ha'avara
>>agreement] contributed to
>>no small extent to the building of a Jewish state in Palestine."43
>>
>>Former officials of the Ha'avara company in Palestine confirmed this
>>view in a detailed study of the Transfer Agreement published in 1972:
>>"The economic activity
>>made possible by the influx German capital and the Haavara transfers
>>to the private and public sectors were of greatest importance for the
>>country's development.
>>
>>Many new industries and commercial enterprises were established in
>>Jewish Palestine, and numerous companies that are enormously important
>>even today in the
>>economy of the State of Israel owe their existence to the Haavara."44 
>>
>>Dr.Ludwig Pinner, a Ha'avara company official in Tel Aviv during the
>>1930s, later commented that the exceptionally competent Ha'avara
>>immigrants "decisively
>>contributed" to the economic, social, cultural and educational
>>development of Palestine's Jewish community.45
>>
>>The Transfer Agreement was the most far-reaching example of
>>cooperation between Hitler's Germany and international Zionism.
>>Through this pact, Hitler's Third
>>Reich did more than any other government during the 1930s to support
>>Jewish development in Palestine.
>>
>>Zionists Offer a Military Alliance With Hitler
>>
>>In early January 1941 a small but important Zionist organization
>>submitted a formal proposal to German diplomats in Beirut for a
>>military-political alliance with wartime Germany. The offer was made
>>by the radical underground "Fighters for
>>the Freedom of Israel," better known as the Lehi or Stern Gang. Its
>>leader, Avraham Stern, had recently broken with the radical
>>nationalist "National Military Organization" (Irgun Zvai Leumi) over
>>the group's attitude toward Britain, which
>>had effectively banned further Jewish settlement of Palestine. Stern
>>regarded Britain as the main enemy of Zionism.
>>
>>This remarkable Zionist proposal "for the solution of the Jewish
>>question in Europe and the active participation of the NMO [Lehi] in
>>the war on the side of
>>Germany" is worth quoting at some length:46
>>
>>In their speeches and statements, the leading statesmen of National
>>Socialist Germany have often emphasized that a New Order in Europe
>>requires as  a prerequisite a radical solution of the Jewish question
>>by evacuation.("Jew-free Europe")
>>
>>The evacuation of the Jewish masses from Europe is a precondition for
>>solving the Jewish question. However, the only way this can be totally
>>achieved  is through settlement of these masses in the homeland of the
>>Jewish people, Palestine, and by the establishment of a Jewish state
>>in its historical boundaries.
>>
>>The goal of the political activity and the years of struggle by the
>>Israel Freedom Movement, the National Military Organization in
>>Palestine (Irgun Zvai Leumi), is to solve the Jewish problem in this
>>way and thus completely liberate the Jewish people forever.
>>
>>The NMO, which is very familiar with the good will of the German Reich
>>government and its officials towards Zionist activities within Germany
>>and the  Zionist emigration program, takes that view that:
>>
>>
>>
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On Fri, 25 Sep 1998 04:25:59 GMT, gaygoyken@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:
>On Thu, 24 Sep 1998 10:14:17, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:
>On Wed, 23 Sep 98 20:34:05 GMT, stgeorge@i-link-2.net (Real Name:)
>wrote:

>>     We need to re-orient it, though,
>>to the countless Aryan lives taken in
>>jewish contrived wars,
>
>>------------Reply Separator----------------
>>On 9/22/98 4:24PM, in message 
>><6u9eik$re9@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com>, NSWPP 
>> wrote:
>
>>FEATURE-Auschwitz remains troubled ground for Poland
>>By Sean Maguire
>>Sept. 14, 1998
>
>>OSWIECIM, Poland (Reuters) - An angry man waving a 
>>gasoline can, a barking
>>puppy and a teen-age boy guard dozens of wooden 
>>crosses erected in a grassy
>>pit outside the high brick walls of the former Nazi 
>>death camp of Auschwitz. 
>
>>Kazimierz Switon, a veteran anti-communist and 
>>radical Roman Catholic with a
>>history of anti-establishment gestures, has 
>>threatened to set himself on
>>fire if the Polish government tries to remove him 
>>and the crosses from the
>>sensitive site. 
>
>>From the bedraggled tent that is home to his 
>>campaign he has managed to give
>>the government an intractable problem, the latest to 
>>dog attempts to better
>>Poland's image abroad and improve relations between 
>>the country and Jewish
>>groups. 
>
>>``The conflict strikes a blow at Poland's interests 
>>and must be resolved as
>>swiftly as possible,'' prime ministerial adviser 
>>Agnieszka Magdziak
>>Miszewska told the Catholic news agency.  ``We are 
>>beginning to be perceived
>>as anarchistic xenophobes ruled by our emotions,'' 
>>she added. 
>
>>But even if the government quickly secures an 
>>eviction order against Switon,
>>the affair has stalled efforts to put the management 
>>of the Auschwitz
>>Birkenau complex on a firm footing and made further 
>>conflict over the tragic
>>site inevitable. 
>
>>DO'S AND DONT'S AT AUSCHWITZ 
>
>>At issue is the definition of what activity is 
>>appropriate at a place where
>>Nazi forces occupying Poland murdered up to 1.5 
>>million people, 90 percent
>>of them Jews, in World War II.  Papal intervention 
>>was needed to resolve a
>>dispute over the presence of a Carmelite convent, 
>>which was moved out, and a
>>crisis erupted over plans to put a supermarket near 
>>the site. 
>
>>The presence of any religious symbols at the largest 
>>graveyard of European
>>Jewry has been a particular irritant since Jewish 
>>groups regard them as a
>>violation of the commemorative character and dignity 
>>of the complex. 
>
>>Poland's center-right government scored a minor 
>>triumph in December when it
>>removed unauthorized Stars of David and crosses from 
>>the dumping ground for
>>human ashes at Birkenau. 
>
>>A discreet deal between the government and an 
>>international Jewish coalition
>>to remove a large cross under which Polish-born Pope 
>>John Paul prayed in
>>1979 came unstuck when press attention caused a 
>>nationalist uproar. 
>
>>Switon's campaign to protect that and other crosses 
>>is backed by an informal
>>alliance of right-wing clergy, radical worker 
>>groups, anti-Semitic skinheads
>>and nationalists. 
>
>>It received initial support from Polish Catholics 
>>with memories of Communist
>>prohibitions on crosses in public places and from 
>>patriots determined that
>>national suffering at Auschwitz, where thousands of 
>>Poles died, not be
>>forgotten. 
>
>>But Switon's support has ebbed since bishops and the 
>>government took the
>>compromise position that the papal cross should 
>>remain and all new crosses
>>be removed. 
>
>>A U.S-led international Jew coalition, which has 
>>broken off dialogue with
>>Poland until the new crosses are taken down, is 
>>unlikely to accept the papal
>>cross as a permanent presence. That issue, the 
>>presence of a church in an
>>old Nazi building near Birkenau and a recent 
>>decision to allow a parking lot
>>and shop near Auschwitz are the next obstacles to be 
>>negotiated. 
>
>>``The cross is a major problem,'' said Ralph 
>>Grunewald of the Holocaust
>>Memorial Museum in Washington. ``I don't know the 
>>answer but the cross, all
>>religious symbols, all post-period elements should 
>>be the subject of behind-
>>the-scene discussion.'' 
>
>>``We have to remove all the crosses that were put up 
>>to provoke the Jewish
>>community,'' said presidential advisor Marek Siwiec, 
>>``But I don't see any
>>chance to have a serious and moderate discussion 
>>about the papal cross at
>>the moment.'' 
>
>>POLISH DESIRE FOR DIALOGUE 
>
>>Polish officials are irritated that the Switon 
>>affair has stymied efforts to
>>sign a deal that would take the future of 
>>Auschwitz-Birkenau out of the
>>political arena. Mindful of its campaign to join 
>>NATO and the European Union
>>and anxious to expiate the guilt of a 1946 pogrom 
>>and an anti-Semitic
>>campaign in 1968, authorities have been working to 
>>improve ties with Israel
>>and the Jewish diaspora. 
>
>>President Alexander Kwasniewski proposed a 
>>renovation, preservation and
>>education program in 1996 and the state began work 
>>on costly local
>>improvement schemes that also benefited the adjacent 
>>run-down town of
>>Oswiecim. But a grander plan for the bleak sites in 
>>southwestern Poland, and
>>international funding, are on hold. 
>
>>The ambitious plan includes linking Auschwitz more 
>>directly to Birkenau, two
>>miles away. Birkenau, built explicitly as an 
>>extermination center and where
>>most Jews died, is harder to get to and visited less 
>>frequently. 
>
>>A new walkway could join the two sites, passing by 
>>the ``Judenrampe,'' the
>>railway siding where most of the Jews arriving from 
>>across Europe were
>>offloaded, which is now neglected and overgrown with 
>>weeds. The tracks
>>directly into Birkenau, familiar from photographs, 
>>were built in 1944 for
>>Hungarian Jewish transports in the last phase of the 
>>extermination campaign. 
>
>>``No. 1 is to preserve the site,'' said Miles 
>>Lerman, chairman of the U.S.
>>Holocaust Museum Council. ``We're talking about 
>>preserving barbed wire,
>>concrete, the crematories.'' 
>
>>A new visitors' center, educational efforts, a 
>>better defined protection
>>zone, ground rules for what commercial activity is 
>>permissible nearby and an
>>internationally accountable management board are 
>>also on the agenda. 
>
>>Despite the frosty climate the government has high 
>>hopes for a new law
>>taking all Nazi German camps on Polish territory out 
>>of local authority
>>control, meeting objections that they are sometimes 
>>managed parochially. The
>>law will cover camps where Polish political 
>>prisoners died and where
>>Hitler's troops implemented the ``Final Solution,'' 
>>wiping out most of
>>Poland's pre-war 3.3 million Jewish population. 
>
>>``I hope this law will be accepted by the main 
>>Jewish circles because its
>>absence was previously a barrier to creating 
>>dialogue,'' said Agnieszka
>>Magdziak-Miszewska. 
>
>>But officials accept that, despite good will and 
>>improving relations,
>>Polish- Jewish dialogue is still vulnerable. 
>
>>``We have to live with the fact that protests and 
>>controversies will be with
>>us for a long time,'' said Stanislaw Krajewski, a 
>>leader of Poland's tiny
>>Jewish community.
>
>
>Why should the cursed Christkillers dictate to the sovereign people
>of Poland, what Polish people may do in their own country??
>
>Why should the Polish people forget that it was the damned JEW-led KGB
>who murdered the 25000 Polish officers at KATYN??
>
>Why should the Polish people forget that it was the JEW-led soviets
>who occupied and enslaved the Christian Polish people??
>
>-88-



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On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 01:01:49 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:
>On Mon, 22 Sep 1997 17:28:24 GMT, odessa88@direct.ca wrote:

>>If there were so many documented JEWS in the German military, one MUST
>>question how many may have died in WWII!!!

>>It seems that the number keeps on increasing, by mythical magic, just
>>as each new lawsuit demanding reparations is filed!!!

>>In other words, soon the number of damn JEW claimants for alleged
>>demise in WWII will exceed the populations of all the countries
>>involved.


>>On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 02:43:34 GMT, vagabond@idirect.com (William
>>Markiewicz) wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>For a fair approximation of the number of victims, the extent of
>>>Jewish life in pre-war Europe must be looked at.  See the
>>>Communication Page, August 97 issue 
>>>http://web.idirect.com/~vagabond
>>
>>sperati wrote:
>>> 
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>>> From: stefan lemieszewski 
>>> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>>> 
>>> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>>> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>>> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>>> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>>> 
>>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>> titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
>>> appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>>> to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>>> >>Stefan Lemieszewski
>>> 
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> North Shore News
>>> February 2, 1997
>>> 
>>> Insights from abroad
>>> Doug Collins
>>> 
>>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>> that is ignored in Canada.
>>> 
>>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>> served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
>>> 
>>> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>>> about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
>>> 
>>> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>>> was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
>>> transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
>>> 
>>> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
>>> married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>>> generals, and 23 colonels.
>>> 
>>> Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
>>> Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>>> more. The research is continuing.
>>> 
>>> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>>> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>>> alive.
>>> 
>>> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>>> father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
>>> 
>>> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>>> whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
>>> 
>>> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>>> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>>> 
>>> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>>> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>>> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>>> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>>> documents in the process.
>>> 
>>> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>>> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew
>>> could ever have fought for Hitler.
>>> 
>>> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
>>> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
>>> 
>>> He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
>>> about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>>> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
>>> 
>>> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may be
>>> used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers of
>>> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>>> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>>> 
>>> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>>> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>>> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>>> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>>> 
>>> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>>> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>>> was a Jew.
>>> 
>>> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>>> 
>>> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>>> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>>> one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
>>> 
>>> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>>> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>>> 
>>> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>>> knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced to a
>>> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>>> 
>>> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>>> 
>>> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>>> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>>> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>>> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>>> plotting against Hitler.
>>> 
>>> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>>> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>>> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>>> to it that he was discharged from the army.
>>> 
>>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>> wonder why?
>>> 
>>> ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>>> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>>> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>>> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>>
>>
>>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!



From chiffre@chambre.com Wed Jan  6 15:01:16 EST 1999
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Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the 
more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions 
"smells" of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted "on behalf 
of all fellow  taxpayers,except the favoured few."

Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
the 
Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the 
more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions 
"smells" of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted "on behalf 
of all fellow  taxpayers,except the favoured few."


On 12 Apr 1998 22:36:43 -0700, kmcvay@nanaimo.island.net (Ken McVay)
wrote:
>In article   wrote:

>>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!


Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in

Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
BRONFMAN JEWS!!!
 
In fact Revenue Canada officials had decided 12 December 1991 that the

Bronfmans were supposed to pay their taxes on this money!!!

George Harris, according to CP, is claiming that the Auditor General
of Canada  in May 1996, exposed the fact that the JEW Bronfmans did
not pay their taxes on the 2.2 Billion, thereby cheating the tax
department out of " hundreds of millions of dollars"!!!

Harris is fighting for the rights of all non-JEW taxpayers on this
issue.

He is quoted as saying, according to CP:"He will be helping to sustain
public confidence in our income tax system, as well as the
administration of justice generally."




Could it be that the goy-boy Oyvay finally got kicked out of NIZKOR, 
since the Bnai Brith could no longer stand the heat of the
investigations for tax fraud?

Did the IRS and Revenue Canada taxation finally get fed up with the
multi-million dollar 
FRAUD by OyVay??

Is that why the filthy pervert OyVay is now in hiding back in
Nanaimo???

Is OyVay back to being a "gas station attendant" for his living, or is
it again on welfare??



From stpaul@roma.org Wed Jan  6 15:01:19 EST 1999
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On Sun, 03 Jan 1999 16:56:11 GMT, chiffre@chambre.com wrote:

>Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
>the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the 
>more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

>Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions 
>"smells" of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

>Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted "on behalf 
>of all fellow  taxpayers,except the favoured few."

>Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
>the  Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the 
>more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

>Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions 
>"smells" of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

>Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted "on behalf 
>of all fellow  taxpayers,except the favoured few."


>On 12 Apr 1998 22:36:43 -0700, kmcvay@nanaimo.island.net (Ken McVay)
>wrote:
>>In article   wrote:

>>>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>>>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>>>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!


>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!

>In fact Revenue Canada officials had decided 12 December 1991 that the
>Bronfmans were supposed to pay their taxes on this money!!!

>George Harris, according to CP, is claiming that the Auditor General
>of Canada  in May 1996, exposed the fact that the JEW Bronfmans did
>not pay their taxes on the 2.2 Billion, thereby cheating the tax
>department out of " hundreds of millions of dollars"!!!

>Harris is fighting for the rights of all non-JEW taxpayers on this
>issue.

>He is quoted as saying, according to CP:"He will be helping to sustain
>public confidence in our income tax system, as well as the
>administration of justice generally."


>Could it be that the goy-boy Oyvay finally got kicked out of NIZKOR, 
>since the Bnai Brith could no longer stand the heat of the
>investigations for tax fraud?

>Did the IRS and Revenue Canada taxation finally get fed up with the
>multi-million dollar  FRAUD by OyVay??

>Is that why the filthy pervert OyVay is now in hiding back in
>Nanaimo???

>Is OyVay back to being a "gas station attendant" for his living, or is
>it again on welfare??


Guess even the shabbas-goy OyVay couldn't stop the Federal Court!!!


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Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the
more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions "smells"
of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted "on behalf of all
fellow  taxpayers,except the favoured few."


On 12 Apr 1998 22:36:43 -0700, kmcvay@nanaimo.island.net (Ken McVay)
wrote:

>>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!


Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
BRONFMAN JEWS!!!
 
In fact Revenue Canada officials had decided 12 december 1991 that the
Bronfmans were supposed to pay their taxes on this money!!!

George Harris, according to CP, is claiming that the Auditor General
of Canada  in May 1996, exposed the fact that the JEW Bronfmans did
not pay their taxes on the 2.2 Billion, thereby cheating the tax
department out of " hundreds of millions of dollars"!!!

Harris is fighting for the rights of all  non-JEW taxpayers on this
issue.

He is quoted as saying, according to CP:"He will be helping to sustain
public confidence in our income tax system, as well as the
administration of justice generally."


Could it be that the goy-boy Oyvay finally got kicked out of NIZKOR,
since the Bnai Brith could no longer stand the heat of the
investigations for tax fraud?/

Did the IRS and Revenue Canada taxation finally get fed up with the
multi-million dollar FRAUD by OyVay??

Is that why the filthy pervert OyVay is now in hiding back in
Nanaimo???

Is OyVay back to being a "gas station attendant" for his living, or is
it again on welfare???


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On Mon, 04 Jan 1999 08:02:37 GMT, notalways@earthlinkspamblocker.net
(Brian Blank) wanted to write the truth, as follows:

On Sun, 03 Jan 1999 16:56:11 GMT, chiffre@chambre.com wrote:

>Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
>the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the 
>more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

>Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions 
>"smells" of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

>Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted "on behalf 
>of all fellow  taxpayers,except the favoured few."

>Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
>the  Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the 
>more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

>Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions 
>"smells" of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

>Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted "on behalf 
>of all fellow  taxpayers,except the favoured few."


>On 12 Apr 1998 22:36:43 -0700, kmcvay@nanaimo.island.net (Ken McVay)
>wrote:
>>In article   wrote:

>>>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>>>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>>>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!


>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!

>In fact Revenue Canada officials had decided 12 December 1991 that the
>Bronfmans were supposed to pay their taxes on this money!!!

>George Harris, according to CP, is claiming that the Auditor General
>of Canada  in May 1996, exposed the fact that the JEW Bronfmans did
>not pay their taxes on the 2.2 Billion, thereby cheating the tax
>department out of " hundreds of millions of dollars"!!!

>Harris is fighting for the rights of all non-JEW taxpayers on this
>issue.

>He is quoted as saying, according to CP:"He will be helping to sustain
>public confidence in our income tax system, as well as the
>administration of justice generally."


>Could it be that the goy-boy Oyvay finally got kicked out of NIZKOR, 
>since the Bnai Brith could no longer stand the heat of the
>investigations for tax fraud?

>Did the IRS and Revenue Canada taxation finally get fed up with the
>multi-million dollar  FRAUD by OyVay??

>Is that why the filthy pervert OyVay is now in hiding back in
>Nanaimo???

>Is OyVay back to being a "gas station attendant" for his living, or is
>it again on welfare??


Guess even the shabbas-goy OyVay couldn't stop the Federal Court!!!
>Brian Blank
>(remove the spamblocker to reply)



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On 4 Jan 1999 01:40:13 GMT, kmcvay@ (Kenneth McVay SOBC) wrote:

>In article <3690a854.686658@news.sprint.ca>,   wrote:
>>Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Muldoon of
>>the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the
>>more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

>>Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions "smells"
>>of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Muldoon of
the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the
more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions "smells"
of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted "on behalf of all
fellow  taxpayers,except the favoured few."


On 12 Apr 1998 22:36:43 -0700, kmcvay@nanaimo.island.net (Ken McVay)
wrote:

>>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!


Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
BRONFMAN JEWS!!!
 
In fact Revenue Canada officials had decided 12 december 1991 that the
Bronfmans were supposed to pay their taxes on this money!!!

George Harris, according to CP, is claiming that the Auditor General
of Canada  in May 1996, exposed the fact that the JEW Bronfmans did
not pay their taxes on the 2.2 Billion, thereby cheating the tax
department out of " hundreds of millions of dollars"!!!

Harris is fighting for the rights of all  non-JEW taxpayers on this
issue.

He is quoted as saying, according to CP:"He will be helping to sustain
public confidence in our income tax system, as well as the
administration of justice generally."


Could it be that the goy-boy Oyvay finally got kicked out of NIZKOR,
since the Bnai Brith could no longer stand the heat of the
investigations for tax fraud?/

Did the IRS and Revenue Canada Taxation finally get fed up with the
multi-million dollar FRAUD by OyVay??

Is that why the filthy pervert OyVay is now in hiding back in
Nanaimo???

Is OyVay back to being a "gas station attendant" for his living, or is
it again on welfare???

> I've tried CP on the web, Edmonton and Calgary papers, and the
>Winnipeg Free Press, and just can't find this story. 
It seems that the cretin OyVay can not read - it was a feature article
in the Sun newspapers, for example...


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>On Thu, 29 Oct 1998 16:29:42 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>wrote:

>With all the rumours about Fidel and the $100 Millions, who got the
>$12 Million??

>>>On Tue, 28 Jul 1998 15:31:10 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:

>>>>If you have contacts with Freeport-McMoran, perhaps the news will help
>>>>them in suing Sherritt, and perhaps the Canucklehead government.

>>>>Help free Cuba from the crooks paying off to a bankrupt Canadian
>>>>company!!!

>>>>On Sat, 13 Jun 1998 20:13:06 GMT, pmartori@globalserve.net (Pedro
>>>>Martori ) wrote:
>>>>>On Sat, 13 Jun 1998 12:40:12 GMT, oreilly@erinhall.com wrote:

>>>>>>Cubans, and Canadian taxpayers also, want to know why did Fidel Castro
>>>>>>give Jean Cretin the C$12 Million, as settlement for Confederation
>>>>>>Life Insurance??

>>>>>>Did Fidel not know that Confederation Life had been BANKRUPT FOR MANY
>>>>>>YEARS??

>>>>>>Who is actually getting the $12 million - crooks in Canada, or in
>>>>>>Cuba??

>>>>>>Do the people at Freeport-McMoran now know about this deal, which will
>>>>>>now help them when they go to the World Court to collect their
>>>>>>reparations??

>>>>>>After all, if there is a precedent for a Canadian firm, this can then
>>>>>>be used to collect by a US firm!!!!

>>>>>>It seems that the Cubans got swindled by some Canadian crooks????

>>>>>>Make sure that all your friends in Cuba know about this and try to
>>>>>>recover the money from Canada!!! Tell Granma about this.

>>>>>    This is the type of monkey business that canadian premiers have
>>>>>been doing with the mobsters called government of Cuba...
>>>>>    Cretin know very damned well what it is all about but prefers
>>>>>     to make peanuts with kastro than billions with a FREE CUBA !
>>>>>********************************************
>>>>>Pedro Martori - Montreal, Qc, Canada
>>>>>    pmartori@globalserve.net
>>>>>********************************************



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On 4 Jan 1999 18:43:18 GMT, kmcvay(Kenneth McVay SOBC) trying to hide
the truth as reported by Canadian Press all across Canada:

>"chiffre@chambre.com" wrote:

>>>Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
>>>the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the 
>>>more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!


On Sun, 03 Jan 1999 16:56:11 GMT, chiffre@chambre.com wrote:

>Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
>the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the 
>more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

>Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions 
>"smells" of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

>Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted "on behalf 
>of all fellow  taxpayers,except the favoured few."

>Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
>the  Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the 
>more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

>Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions 
>"smells" of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

>Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted "on behalf 
>of all fellow  taxpayers,except the favoured few."


>On 12 Apr 1998 22:36:43 -0700, kmcvay@nanaimo.island.net (Ken McVay)
>wrote:
>>In article   wrote:

>>>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>>>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>>>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!


>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!

>In fact Revenue Canada officials had decided 12 December 1991 that the
>Bronfmans were supposed to pay their taxes on this money!!!

>George Harris, according to CP, is claiming that the Auditor General
>of Canada  in May 1996, exposed the fact that the JEW Bronfmans did
>not pay their taxes on the 2.2 Billion, thereby cheating the tax
>department out of " hundreds of millions of dollars"!!!

>Harris is fighting for the rights of all non-JEW taxpayers on this
>issue.

>He is quoted as saying, according to CP:"He will be helping to sustain
>public confidence in our income tax system, as well as the
>administration of justice generally."


>Could it be that the goy-boy Oyvay finally got kicked out of NIZKOR, 
>since the Bnai Brith could no longer stand the heat of the
>investigations for tax fraud?

>Did the IRS and Revenue Canada taxation finally get fed up with the
>multi-million dollar  FRAUD by OyVay??

>Is that why the filthy pervert OyVay is now in hiding back in
>Nanaimo???

>Is OyVay back to being a "gas station attendant" for his living, or is
>it again on welfare??


Guess even the shabbas-goy OyVay couldn't stop the Federal Court!!!

Could it be that the maggot OyVay is also now being ordered to repay
much taxes, in both Canada and the US, in connection with his
FRAUDULENT claims as a non-existent charity???



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On Tue, 5 Jan 1999 00:22:40 GMT, ca140@torfree.net (Ron Yaraskavitch)
wrote:

>chiffre@chambre.com wrote:
>: Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
>: the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the 
>: more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!
>
>I don't get it.  Why does 'chiffre' want to condemn jews?  

Mainly because the JEW Bronfmans swindled the Canadian government out
of more than $700 millions taxes!!!

Read the story, and then try to correlate to Nazis???

>If the Nazis and Soviets blamed all problems on the jews, does that mean 
>they were trying to direct the public attention away from evaluating what 
>they were doing?
>Ron


On Sun, 03 Jan 1999 16:56:11 GMT, chiffre@chambre.com wrote:

>Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
>the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the 
>more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

>Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions 
>"smells" of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

>Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted "on behalf 
>of all fellow  taxpayers,except the favoured few."

>Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
>the  Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the 
>more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

>Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions 
>"smells" of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

>Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted "on behalf 
>of all fellow  taxpayers,except the favoured few."


>On 12 Apr 1998 22:36:43 -0700, kmcvay@nanaimo.island.net (Ken McVay)
>wrote:
>>In article   wrote:

>>>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>>>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>>>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!


>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!

>In fact Revenue Canada officials had decided 12 December 1991 that the
>Bronfmans were supposed to pay their taxes on this money!!!

>George Harris, according to CP, is claiming that the Auditor General
>of Canada  in May 1996, exposed the fact that the JEW Bronfmans did
>not pay their taxes on the 2.2 Billion, thereby cheating the tax
>department out of " hundreds of millions of dollars"!!!

>Harris is fighting for the rights of all non-JEW taxpayers on this
>issue.

>He is quoted as saying, according to CP:"He will be helping to sustain
>public confidence in our income tax system, as well as the
>administration of justice generally."


>Could it be that the goy-boy Oyvay finally got kicked out of NIZKOR, 
>since the Bnai Brith could no longer stand the heat of the
>investigations for tax fraud?

>Did the IRS and Revenue Canada taxation finally get fed up with the
>multi-million dollar  FRAUD by OyVay??

>Is that why the filthy pervert OyVay is now in hiding back in
>Nanaimo???

>Is OyVay back to being a "gas station attendant" for his living, or is
>it again on welfare??


Guess even the shabbas-goy OyVay couldn't stop the Federal Court!!!



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>On Thu, 29 Oct 1998 16:29:42 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>wrote:

>With all the rumours about Fidel and the $100 Millions, who got the
>$12 Million??

>>>On Tue, 28 Jul 1998 15:31:10 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:

>>>>If you have contacts with Freeport-McMoran, perhaps the news will help
>>>>them in suing Sherritt, and perhaps the Canucklehead government.

>>>>Help free Cuba from the crooks paying off to a bankrupt Canadian
>>>>company!!!

>>>>On Sat, 13 Jun 1998 20:13:06 GMT, pmartori@globalserve.net (Pedro
>>>>Martori ) wrote:
>>>>>On Sat, 13 Jun 1998 12:40:12 GMT, oreilly@erinhall.com wrote:

>>>>>>Cubans, and Canadian taxpayers also, want to know why did Fidel Castro
>>>>>>give Jean Cretin the C$12 Million, as settlement for Confederation
>>>>>>Life Insurance??

>>>>>>Did Fidel not know that Confederation Life had been BANKRUPT FOR MANY
>>>>>>YEARS??

>>>>>>Who is actually getting the $12 million - crooks in Canada, or in
>>>>>>Cuba??

>>>>>>Do the people at Freeport-McMoran now know about this deal, which will
>>>>>>now help them when they go to the World Court to collect their
>>>>>>reparations??

>>>>>>After all, if there is a precedent for a Canadian firm, this can then
>>>>>>be used to collect by a US firm!!!!

>>>>>>It seems that the Cubans got swindled by some Canadian crooks????

>>>>>>Make sure that all your friends in Cuba know about this and try to
>>>>>>recover the money from Canada!!! Tell Granma about this.

>>>>>    This is the type of monkey business that canadian premiers have
>>>>>been doing with the mobsters called government of Cuba...
>>>>>    Cretin know very damned well what it is all about but prefers
>>>>>     to make peanuts with kastro than billions with a FREE CUBA !
>>>>>********************************************
>>>>>Pedro Martori - Montreal, Qc, Canada
>>>>>    pmartori@globalserve.net
>>>>>********************************************



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On 4 Jan 1999 21:33:32 GMT, ajomojo@aol.com (AjoMojo) wrote:
>>From: pmartori@globalserve.net (Pedro Martori )

>>HAVANA, Nov 25 (Reuters) - Cuba is holding six Canadian tourists for
>>suspected
>>>>>>drug-smuggling after cocaine was allegedly found in their luggage,
>>foreign
>>>>>>diplomats said on Wednesday. 

>LOL! ROFL!  

>And they're still arguing "mas arriba" :-) about if its "safe" traveling to
>Cuba. LOL!!!

>What is Canada going to do now? Abandon its citizens to Castro Kangaroo
>Courts, or send the Marines and risk being called "Imperialista?"

>Is Castro going to give them a slap in the hand and let them go? (as others
>used to do)
>Or is he going to grant foreigners due process?
>Are we going to have a legal apartheid also?

>LOL!  ROFL!   Oh this is just too funny!!!

>Are Canadians kept in Ariza? Or in prisons in Key Largo?

>And, the "Brits"?  "Helping" just like against the slave trade.

>LOL!

>Is Cuba Travel going to include  information about  what to do if you get
>arrested in Cuba?
>Not bringing in drugs?
>The age of consent?

>LOL! Just too funny!!! I can't stop laughing!

>From Communism, to Sociolism, to Internacionalism, to. . . .Bollolism!*

>Y los jovenes le decimos a nuestro Comandante en Jefe:
>Bollolismo o Muerte, Abriremos! (las patas)
>
>*Bollolism: (n) Is the political system developed by Marx, Lenin, Stalin, and
>Castro where a Caribbean Paradise builds a classless society by hosting orgies
>for wealthy uptight anglos who can only relax, Cuban style, when no one is
>looking. ROFL!


Perhaps this is part of Cuba's revenge for being swindled by the
Canadian PM??

Let the criminals rot in a Cuba jail for a while....

has Cuba allowed the Sherritt nickel mine at Moa to reopen yet/

Rumour is that the closure since August is costing the Canadians 10
million dollars a week??

Hope that the Cuba government gets some of the ripoff back from the
Canadians, somehow.


On Thu, 08 Oct 1998 18:34:34 GMT, sbjarnason@heimat.zhid.org wrote:
>On Sat, 13 Jun 1998 20:13:06 GMT, pmartori@globalserve.net (Pedro
>Martori ) wrote:
>>On Sat, 13 Jun 1998 12:40:12 GMT, oreilly@erinhall.com wrote:

>>Cubans, and Canadian taxpayers also, want to know why did Fidel Castro
>>give Jean Cretin the C$12 Million, as settlement for Confederation
>>Life Insurance??
>
>>Did Fidel not know that Confederation Life had been BANKRUPT FOR MANY YEARS??
>
>>Who is actually getting the $12 million - crooks in Canada, or in Cuba??
>
>>Do the people at Freeport-McMoran now know about this deal, which will
>>now help them when they go to the World Court to collect their reparations??
>
>>After all, if there is a precedent for a Canadian firm, this can then
>>be used to collect by a US firm!!!!

>>It seems that the Cubans got swindled by some Canadian crooks????

>>Make sure that all your friends in Cuba know about this and try to
>>recover the money from Canada!!! Tell Granma about this.

>>    This is the type of monkey business that Canadian premiers have
>>been doing with the mobsters called government of Cuba...
>>    Cretin know very damned well what it is all about but prefers
>>     to make peanuts with kastro than billions with a FREE CUBA !
>>********************************************
>>Pedro Martori - Montreal, Qc, Canada
>>    pmartori@globalserve.net




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Does this mean that the Brits are really zionist JEWS, working with
Israel's MOSSAD??


On Wed, 6 Jan 1999 01:20:18 -0700 (MST), kopper1013@webtv.net wrote:

>the "brits" in cuba are not customs officers....
>they are a "special detail" of sas working, from what i understand, with
>"special details" of personnel from "mossad," american intel,
>chinese(kang sheng) and russian(oss) intel, for the purpose of
>curtailing terrorist acts in cuba during the "new special period."
>it ain't over 'till the fat lady sings. 
>
> 



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On 1 Jan 1999 18:06:41 GMT, kmcvay (Kenneth McVay SOBC) the
shabbas-goy for the JEWS, wanted to tell the truth, as follows:


My thanks to you for reposting this article.
A brilliant truthful piece.

Ed Kadach


mahdi@alahram.com wrote:
> 

> >>On Sun, 19 Jul 1998 22:06:50 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
> >>>On 1 May 1998 13:08:00 +0200, Irmin@nsm.htp.org wrote:
> >
> >>>>American Dissident Voices Broadcast of April 25, 1998
> >>>>
> >>>>Katyn
> >>>>by Dr. William Pierce
> >>>>
> >>>>A background noise that seems never to go away is the constant
> >>>>whining and yammering of the Jews about how the world owes them a
> >>>>living because of their losses during the so-called "Holocaust."
> >>>>They do it, of course, because they make such a big profit on it.
> >>>>The latest flare-up of this Jewish play for a handout came more
> >>>>than a year ago when they began demanding that the Swiss pay them
> >>>>$7 billion, which "Holocaust" victims allegedly had stashed in
> >>>>numbered Swiss accounts before being hauled off to gas chambers
> >>>>during the Second World War.
> >>>>
> >>>>With a few "bought" Gentile politicians fronting for them, the
> >>>>foremost among these being New York's Senator Alphonse D'Amato,
> >>>>the Jews threatened Switzerland with a boycott by the U.S.
> >>>>government if their demands were not met. Instead of laughing in
> >>>>their faces, telling the Jews to go to hell, and gearing up for
> >>>>countermeasures against Israel and other Jewish interests if the
> >>>>Jews tried to proceed with a boycott, the Swiss politicians tried
> >>>>to placate the Jews by offering to buy themoff. The Jews took the
> >>>>Swiss response as a sign of weakness and escalated their demands.
> >>>>
> >>>>The average Swiss citizen seems to have a little more pride than
> >>>>Switzerland's elected officials, however, and resentment against
> >>>>the Jews' extortion efforts is building in Switzerland now to the
> >>>>point that some of that country's richest Jews are wearing
> >>>>bulletproof vests whenever they must go out in public.
> >>>>
> >>>>In general, however, this "Holocaust"-based extortion racket
> >>>>works quite well for the Jews, and they have expanded their
> >>>>demands for World War Two reparations to include a number of
> >>>>other countries besides Switzerland. They are even whining that
> >>>>the Vatican owes them because Pope Pius XII didn't do enough to
> >>>>save them from the Germans during the war. The Jews' brazenness
> >>>>in this whole business is quite breathtaking.
> >>>>
> >>>>Their brazenness, of course, is justified, because by and large
> >>>>they have been getting away with it. And they have been getting
> >>>>away with it because with their media control they have been able
> >>>>to distort the general public's whole perception of what happened
> >>>>during the Second World War. They have been able to portray
> >>>>themselves as innocent victims and just about everyone else as
> >>>>persecutors and aggressors, even the people who were fighting on
> >>>>the Jewish side against the Germans during the war. For example,
> >>>>they have done quite a bit of whining that after the Red Army
> >>>>drove the Germans from Poland, the Poles took the opportunity to
> >>>>lynch hundreds of Jews in 1945 and 1946: Jews whom the Germans
> >>>>somehow had failed to get rid of during their wartime occupation
> >>>>of Poland.
> >>>>
> >>>>Now, why would the Poles do something like that? Why would they
> >>>>lynch the poor Jews, who had been on their side during the war?
> >>>>If you learned about the war from watching Steven Spielberg
> >>>>propaganda films and other mass-media sources, you probably
> >>>>believe that it was because of religious anti-Semitism on the
> >>>>part of the Catholic Poles. Let me tell you the real reason why
> >>>>so many Poles hated Jews after the war. It's something the
> >>>>Jew-controlled media in America have tried hard to keep covered
> >>>>up. Let me tell you about what happened in the Katyn forest
> >>>>in 1940.
> >>>>
> >>>>In September 1939 Poland was invaded from the west by Germany and
> >>>>from the east by the Soviet Union. The Germans wanted back the
> >>>>territory in western Poland, including the city of Danzig, which
> >>>>had been taken from them at the end of the First World War. The
> >>>>Soviets wanted eastern Poland. The Germans and the Soviets
> >>>>divided Poland between them, with the boundary running roughly
> >>>>along the River Bug.
> >>>>
> >>>>Britain and France, both under strong Jewish pressure, declared
> >>>>war on Germany in September 1939, ostensibly because of Germany's
> >>>>invasion of Poland. They did not declare war on the Soviet Union,
> >>>>which also had invaded Poland. In the United States and in
> >>>>western Europe, where the Jews held a deathgrip on the mass
> >>>>media, a great deal of anti-German propaganda was based on the
> >>>>German grab for Polish territory -- much of which, of course,
> >>>>actually was historically German territory -- and nothing was
> >>>>said of the Soviet occupation and annexation of eastern Poland.
> >>>>
> >>>>The reason for this anti-German and pro-Soviet bias by the Jewish
> >>>>media was that the Jews were riding high in the Soviet Union as
> >>>>commissars and communist party bosses under Stalin, while in
> >>>>Germany Hitler had undertaken a program since 1933 of freeing
> >>>>Germany from all Jewish influence. Jews had been weeded out of
> >>>>the media, the law, the schools, and other areas of economic and
> >>>>cultural life in Germany. Before Hitler became chancellor in 1933
> >>>>the Jews had done in Germany what they do in every country where
> >>>>they gain a foothold: they had monopolized large sections of the
> >>>>mass media and certain professions and were doing their best to
> >>>>distort German culture, German society, and the German economy
> >>>>to suit themselves. Hitler put a stop to that, and two-thirds of
> >>>>the 1933 Jewish population of Germany had emigrated by the
> >>>>invasion of Poland in September 1939. So the Jews hated Germany
> >>>>and were determined to do whatever they could to destroy her.
> >>>>
> >>>>For his part, Hitler hoped to avoid war with Britain and France.
> >>>>He hoped that after his quick victory in western Poland he could
> >>>>make peace with Britain and France. He was determined, however,
> >>>>to stamp out communism wherever he encountered it. Not only did
> >>>>he hate communism on ideological grounds, but he had sworn to
> >>>>fight communism when the communists in Germany betrayed his
> >>>>country at the end of the First World War. Hitler also saw the
> >>>>Soviet Union as a threat to all of Europe, and he was determined
> >>>>to break the power of that country when he could, even though
> >>>>there was an uneasy non-aggression pact between Germany and the
> >>>>Soviet Union in 1939, at the time of their partition of Poland.
> >>>>
> >>>>In the spring of 1941 massive troop movements and other
> >>>>developments inside the Soviet Union convinced Hitler that Stalin
> >>>>was preparing to invade the west with the Red Army, and so in
> >>>>June 1941 Hitler made a preemptive strike. German forces smashed
> >>>>through the Red Army and made rapid advances, first through
> >>>>Soviet-occupied eastern Poland and then through Ukraine and into
> >>>>Russia.
> >>>>
> >>>>A year and a half later, in February 1943, German forces near
> >>>>Smolensk, in western Russia, investigated reports they heard from
> >>>>Russian civilians to the effect that a large number of prisoners
> >>>>had been murdered by the Soviet secret police in the area nearly
> >>>>three years earlier. The German investigators were led by local
> >>>>Russians to a series of mounds in a wooded area known locally as
> >>>>Katyn Forest, about 10 miles west of Smolensk. The forest is
> >>>>named for a village, Katyn, which it surrounds. The forest had
> >>>>been privately owned prior to the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917,
> >>>>but after the communist takeover of Russia the area had been
> >>>>confiscated by the government and part of the forest had been
> >>>>turned over to the NKVD, the Soviet equivalent of the American
> >>>>FBI.
> >>>>
> >>>>The Germans began digging in the mounds in the Katyn forest and
> >>>>made a horrible discovery. They found corpse after corpse, each
> >>>>with its hands bound behind its back and a bullet hole in the
> >>>>base of its skull. They continued their excavations for more than
> >>>>a month, and eventually uncovered more than 4,000 corpses. Other
> >>>>bodies may have remained buried in other mounds, but the Germans
> >>>>had no time to dig up the whole forest. Instead they called in
> >>>>the International Red Cross and representatives of various
> >>>>neutral countries to examine their findings. They also brought in
> >>>>groups of Allied prisoners of war, including Americans, from
> >>>>prison camps in Germany to view the graves in the Katyn forest.
> >>>>They gave these international inspectors complete freedom to
> >>>>examine the exhumed bodies, permitted doctors among them to
> >>>>conduct autopsies, even allowed them to dig up other bodies from
> >>>>one of the mounds which had not been completely excavated. The
> >>>>Germans asked only that the inspectors report back truthfully to
> >>>>their own governments about their observations. And in fact, most
> >>>>of them did.
> >>>>
> >>>>What they reported was that the bodies were those of Polish
> >>>>military officers, along with a number of civilian cultural and
> >>>>business leaders and intellectuals -- scientists, writers, poets
> >>>>-- who had been in the portion of Poland occupied by the Soviet
> >>>>Union in September 1939. Altogether the Soviet secret police had
> >>>>rounded up some 15,000 Polish leaders in 1939 -- including nearly
> >>>>half of the entire Polish officer's corps, the half that had had
> >>>>the misfortune of being in eastern Poland at the time -- and put
> >>>>them in three concentration camps in Russia: at Starobelsk,
> >>>>Kozelsk, and Ostashkov. All of the bodies unearthed in the
> >>>>Katyn forest were of Polish leaders who had been confined at one
> >>>>of these camps: Starobelsk.
> >>>>
> >>>>Rounding up a country's leaders and killing them was standard
> >>>>practice for the communists. The theory was that the leaders were
> >>>>bourgeois oppressors of the working class and deserved to die. As
> >>>>egalitarians the communists did not regard the Polish officers
> >>>>and intellectuals as inherently better or more valuable human
> >>>>material than the average Polish criminal or welfare bum; the
> >>>>officers had simply used their class advantage to gain a better
> >>>>life-style for themselves. Of course, no one really believed that
> >>>>theory except the criminals and welfare bums and other resentful
> >>>>losers and ne'er-do-wells who made up the natural communist
> >>>>constituency. As a practical matter, however, killing all the
> >>>>leaders and potential leaders of a conquered people made them
> >>>>easier to govern. That's what the Marxists had done in Russia,
> >>>>Ukraine, and the Baltic countries.
> >>>>
> >>>>In the case of the Poles there was a bit of a diplomatic problem,
> >>>>though. The Poles supported the war Britain and France had
> >>>>declared against Germany, purportedly on their behalf, because
> >>>>they viewed that as their one hope for getting back at least the
> >>>>western part of their country. They were not happy about the
> >>>>Russians taking the eastern part of Poland, but the Russians at
> >>>>least were fellow Slavs. The thing to do was get rid of the
> >>>>Germans first and then worry about the Russians. This Polish
> >>>>strategy suited Stalin fine. But it made it desirable for him to
> >>>>avoid alienating the Poles any more than necessary. When Polish
> >>>>exiles asked about their imprisoned leaders in late 1939 and
> >>>>early 1940, the Soviet government promised that they would be
> >>>>released shortly. Meanwhile, the decision had been made to kill
> >>>>all of them. And so in April 1940 the Polish leaders were taken
> >>>>from the three camps where they had been imprisoned, trucked off
> >>>>to various liquidation sites, and murdered. The ones who had been
> >>>>imprisoned at Starobelsk all went to the NKVD area of the Katyn
> >>>>forest. After the war some of the NKVD executioners were
> >>>>interviewed in Israel and described how they had carried out the
> >>>>killings.
> >>>>
> >>>>The Poles were driven up to the burial pits in long NKVD prison
> >>>>trucks known as "black ravens." They were pulled from the trucks
> >>>>one at a time by NKVD guards. Each Polish prisoner had his hands
> >>>>bound behind his back and then was dragged to the edge of a pit.
> >>>>There he was held by two NKVD men while a third fired a pistol
> >>>>bullet into the back of his head. Some of the officers had had
> >>>>their coats pulled over their heads to keep them from seeing what
> >>>>was happening before they were shot. Some struggled and were
> >>>>bayonetted by NKVD guards before being shot and thrown into the
> >>>>pit. When all of the officers from Starobelsk had been killed,
> >>>>some 4,400 of them, the Katyn forest burial pits were covered
> >>>>with dirt and pine trees were planted on them. The locations of
> >>>>the mass graves of the prisoners from the camps at Kozelsk and
> >>>>Ostashkov remain unknown, but none of the 15,000 Polish officers
> >>>>and intellectuals rounded up by the NKVD in September 1939 was
> >>>>seen alive after April 1940.
> >>>>
> >>>>The Red Cross representatives and the Allied prisoners the
> >>>>Germans brought in to examine the mass graves in the Katyn forest
> >>>>understood after their examination not only who had been killed;
> >>>>they also understood who had killed them. This was apparent not
> >>>>only from the medical estimates of the length of time the bodies
> >>>>had been buried, but also from documentary evidence on the
> >>>>bodies. Diaries, news clippings, letters, and other personal
> >>>>papers removed from the clothing of the victims all told the same
> >>>>story: the latest dates on any of these papers were from
> >>>>mid-April 1940. The Polish leaders had been killed in April 1940,
> >>>>when they were prisoners of the Soviet Union and when the Katyn
> >>>>region was under Soviet control. And this is what they reported
> >>>>back to their governments.
> >>>>
> >>>>So what do you think happened? Were the British and American
> >>>>governments horrified to discover that their "gallant Soviet
> >>>>ally," as the Soviet Union was referred to by the mass media, was
> >>>>a mass murderer? Did the British government, which had gone to
> >>>>war against Germany under the pretext of defending Poland, decide
> >>>>that it had made a mistake? Did anyone condemn the Soviet Union
> >>>>for this act of genocide against the Poles?
> >>>>
> >>>>Of course not! The Allied governments ordered their people who
> >>>>had inspected the Katyn site to keep their mouths shut, and the
> >>>>Jewish media immediately began announcing that the Germans had
> >>>>done it. A mass murder of Polish officers and intellectuals by
> >>>>the Nazis had been discovered in the Katyn forest, the New York
> >>>>Times and the rest of the Jewish media shrieked. Poor Poles!
> >>>>Wicked Germans! The war must go on to free the poor Poles and
> >>>>punish the wicked Germans. And the war did go on, killing
> >>>>millions of more Germans, British, Americans, and other
> >>>>Europeans. And the Germans were indeed punished. The Poles, of
> >>>>course, were not freed. Instead they were turned over to the
> >>>>Reds, who had butchered their leaders in the Katyn forest, and
> >>>>made to suffer under communist rule for half a century.
> >>>>
> >>>>The war went on after the German discovery of the mass graves in
> >>>>the Katyn forest, because its purpose from the beginning was not
> >>>>to free Poland but to destroy Germany, which had dared to free
> >>>>itself from the Jews. Roosevelt understood this. Churchill
> >>>>understood this. But the American and British people didn't
> >>>>understand it, of course, because they were lied to by the Jewish
> >>>>media and by their own governments, who in 1943 as in 1998 have
> >>>>done whatever has been politically expedient. And what has been
> >>>>politically expedient has been what the Jewish media bosses have
> >>>>decided.
> >>>>
> >>>>The lies about Katyn were maintained by the media for some years
> >>>>after the end of the war, because these lies meshed nicely with
> >>>>the "Holocaust" story which was making so much money for the
> >>>>Jews. Nowadays, of course, the truth about the Katyn murders is
> >>>>generally accepted by historians everywhere. You can go into
> >>>>almost any large library and read about it and even see the
> >>>>gruesome photographs that the Germans took of the Polish bodies
> >>>>they dug up. One of several authoritative books on the subject is
> >>>>J.K. Zawodny's Death in the Forest: the Story of the Katyn
> >>>>Forest Massacre, published in 1962 by the University of Notre
> >>>>Dame Press. None of this is publicized a la Steven Spielberg, of
> >>>>course, for the illumination of American television audiences. It
> >>>>still might undermine the Jews' "Holocaust" racket.
> >>>>
> >>>>In 1945 and 1946, although the deceived citizens of the western
> >>>>world didn't know the truth about Katyn, Polish patriots did. The
> >>>>word had gotten back to the Polish prisoners in German camps from
> >>>>the Poles the Germans had taken to examine the graves. After the
> >>>>war, when these Polish prisoners were freed, the word spread to
> >>>>other Poles. They knew that it was the communists, not the Nazis,
> >>>>who had murdered their leaders, who had beheaded their nation.
> >>>>And they knew who was behind communism, from the Jew Karl Marx,
> >>>>who had started the whole business, up to the Jewish commissars
> >>>>who lorded it over them in Soviet-occupied Poland. They knew who
> >>>>had welcomed their Soviet conquerors and then collaborated with
> >>>>those conquerors. And so it is hardly surprising that in 1945 and
> >>>>1946 a few Polish patriots organized lynchings of Jews in Poland,
> >>>>before the Reds had a chance to clamp down on all of Poland and
> >>>>suppress any further expressions of anti-communist or anti-Jewish
> >>>>feeling.
> >>>>
> >>>>No, the Polish dislike of Jews isn't surprising. What is
> >>>>surprising is that so few patriots in America and Britain have
> >>>>expressed their outrage against the Jews, not only for what they
> >>>>did to the Poles during and after the war, but for what they have
> >>>>done to us: lying to us and using us to wage their wars for them.
> >>>>If patriots study the Katyn story and take its lesson to heart,
> >>>>they will understand why they cannot trust either the mass media
> >>>>or any government which dances to the tune played by the media.
> >>>>Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill were as much liars and
> >>>>traitors as Bill Clinton and Tony Blair.
> >>>>
> >>>>Anyway, you might remember Katyn the next time you hear the Jews
> >>>>or some of their bought politicians whining about how much gold
> >>>>was stolen from them by the Swiss or how badly the Poles and the
> >>>>Germans treated them during the Second World War.
> >>>>
> >>>>The text above is based on a broadcast of the American Dissident
> >>>>Voices radio program sponsored by National Vanguard Books. To
> >>>>receive weekly ADV transcripts, mail: ADVlist@ListServe.com
> >>>>Write "subscribe" as the subject of your message.
> >>>>
> >>>>++++++++++++++
> >>>>
> >>>>American Renaissance
> >>>>http://www.amren.com
> >>>>
> >>>>Campaign for Radical Truth in History
> >>>>http://www.hoffman-info.com
> >>>>
> >>>>Euro-American Students Union
> >>>>http://esu.simplenet.com
> >>>>
> >>>>Katja Lane's Fourteen Word Press
> >>>>http://www.14words.com
> >>>>
> >>>>National Alliance
> >>>>http://www.natvan.com
> >>>>
> >>>>Stormfront
> >>>>http://www.stormfront.org
> >>>>
> >>>>Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library
> >>>>http://www.ddc.net/ygg


From stpaul@roma.org Wed Jan  6 15:04:47 EST 1999
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On Wed, 16 Dec 1998 14:33:14 GMT, dcohen@chambre.com wrote:
>On 14 Dec 1998 05:44:48, nikst@glasnet.ru wrote:
>>Reply-To: 
>>From: "nikst" 
>>Subject: THE TORONTO SUN: Remembering Ukraine's Unknown Holocaust
>>Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 04:47:59 +0300

>>THE TORONTO SUN, Sunday, December 13, 1998

>>Remembering Ukraine's Unknown Holocaust

>>By ERIC MARGOLIS
>>Contributing Foreign Editor

>>As Britain's socialist government cleared the way for a gaudy show 
>>trial of that Great Satan of the left, Chile's Gen. Augusto Pinochet, 
>>the 65th anniversary of this century's bloodiest crime was utterly 
>>ignored. Leftists now baying for Pinochet's head don't want to be 
>>reminded of the Unknown Holocaust.

>>In 1932, Soviet leader Josef Stalin unleashed genocide in
>>Ukraine. Stalin determined to force Ukraine's millions of independent
>>farmers - called kulaks - into collectivized Soviet agriculture, and to
>>crush Ukraine's growing spirit of nationalism.

>> Faced by resistance to collectivization, Stalin unleashed
>>terror and dispatched 25,000 fanatical young party militants from 
>>Moscow
>>- earlier versions of Mao's Red Guards - to force 10 million Ukrainian
>>peasants into collective farms. Secret police units of OGPU began
>>selective executions of recalcitrant farmers.

>>When Stalin's red guards failed to make a dent in this immense number, 
>>OGPU was ordered to begin mass executions. But there were simply not 
>>enough Chekists (secret police) to kill so many people, so Stalin 
>>decided to replace bullets with a much cheaper medium of death - mass
>>starvation.

>>All seed stocks, grain, silage and farm animals were
>>confiscated from Ukraine's farms. (Ethiopia's Communist dictator
>>Mengistu Haile Mariam used the same method in the 1970s to force
>>collectivization: the resulting famine cased one million deaths.)

>>OGPU agents and Red Army troops sealed all roads and rail
>>lines. Nothing came in or out of Ukraine. Farms were searched and 
>>looted of food and fuel. Ukrainians quickly began to die of hunger, 
>>cold and sickness.

>>When OGPU failed to meet weekly execution quotas, Stalin sent
>>henchman Lazar Kaganovitch to destroy Ukrainian resistance. 
>>Kaganovitch, the Soviet Eichmann, made quota, shooting 10,000 
>>Ukrainians weekly. Eighty percent of all Ukrainian intellectuals were 
>>executed. A Ukrainian party member named Nikita Khruschchev helped 
>>supervise the slaughter.

>>During the bitter winter of 1932-33, mass starvation created
>>by Kaganovitch and OGPU hit full force. Ukrainians ate their pets, 
>>boots and belts, plus bark and roots. Some parents even ate infant 
>>children.

>>The precise number of Ukrainians murdered by Stalin's
>>custom-made famine and Cheka firing squads remains unknown to this day.
>>The KGB's archives, and recent work by Russian historians, show at 
>>least seven million died. Ukrainian historians put the figure at nine 
>>million, or higher. Twenty-five percent of Ukraine's population was 
>>exterminated.

>>Millions of victims

>>Six million other farmers across the USSR were starved or shot
>>during collectivization. Stalin told Winston Churchill he liquidated 10
>>million peasants during the 1930s. Add mass executions by the Cheka in
>>Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania; the genocide of three million Muslims in
>>the USSR; massacres of Cossacks and Volga Germans and Soviet industrial
>>genocide accounted for at least 40 million victims, not including 20
>>million war dead.

>>Kaganovitch and many senior OGPU officers (later, NKVD) were
>>Jewish. The predominance of Jews among Bolshevik leaders, and the
>>frightful crimes and cruelty inflicted by Stalin's Cheka on Ukraine, 
>>the Baltic states and Poland, led the victims of Red Terror to blame 
>>the Jewish people for both communism and their suffering. 

>When even a Jew writer admits the truth, perhaps Christmas is near??


>As a direct
>>result, during the subsequent Nazi occupation of Eastern Europe, the
>>region's innocent Jews became the target of ferocious revenge by
>>Ukrainians, Balts and Poles.

>>While the world is by now fully aware of the destruction of
>>Europe's Jews by the Nazis, the story of the numerically larger
>>holocaust in Ukraine has been suppressed, or ignored. Ukraine's 
>>genocide occurred 8-9 years before Hitler began the Jewish Holocaust, 
>>and was committed, unlike Nazi crimes, before the world's gaze. But 
>>Stalin's murder of millions was simply denied, or concealed by a 
>>left-wing conspiracy of silence that continues to this day. In the 
>>strange moral geometry of mass murder, only Nazis are guilty.

>>Socialist luminaries like Bernard Shaw, Beatrice and Sidney
>>Webb and PM Edouard Herriot of France, toured Ukraine during 1932-33 
>>and proclaimed reports of famine were false. Shaw announced: "I did not 
>>see one under-nourished person in Russia." New York Times correspondent
>>Walter Duranty, who won a Pulitzer Prize for his Russian reporting,
>>wrote claims of famine were "malignant propaganda." Seven million 
>>people were dying around them, yet these fools saw nothing. The New 
>>York Times has never repudiated Duranty's lies.

>>Modern leftists do not care to be reminded their ideological
>>and historical roots are entwined with this century's greatest crime -
>>the inevitable result of enforced social engineering and Marxist
>>theology.

>>Western historians delicately skirt the sordid fact that the
>>governments of Britain, the U.S. and Canada were fully aware of the
>>Ukrainian genocide and Stalin's other monstrous crimes. Yet they 
>>eagerly welcomed him as an ally during World War II. Stalin, who 
>>Franklin Roosevelt called "Uncle Joe," murdered four times more people 
>>than Adolf Hitler.

>>None of the Soviet mass murderers who committed genocide were
>>ever brought to justice. Lazar Kaganovitch died peacefully in Moscow a
>>few years ago, still wearing his Order of the Soviet Union, and 
>>enjoying a generous state pension.

>>Eric can be reached by e-mail at: margolis@foreigncorrespondent.com.

>>Letters to the editor should be sent to: editor@sunpub.com.





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On Sat, 02 Jan 1999 22:22:15 -0500, ramcke  wrote:

>
>
>Rainer Joswig wrote:
>
>> In article <36922cf6.1058917@news.sprint.ca>, stpaul@roma.org wrote:
>>
>> > On 1 Jan 1999 18:06:41 GMT, kmcvay (Kenneth McVay SOBC) the
>> > shabbas-goy for the JEWS, wanted to tell the truth, as follows:
>> >
>> >
>> > My thanks to you for reposting this article.
>> > A brilliant truthful piece.
>> >
>> > Ed Kadach
>>
>> Post Nazi lies somewhere else. Not in soc.culture.german.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> --
>> http://www.lavielle.com/~joswig
>
>What's your problem?  The Poles and Russians have acknowledged the
>Polish murders in the Katyn Forest were committed by the Russina Army,

It seems that the JEWS want to ignore the fact that it was JEW KGB who
murdered the Polish soldiers!!!


The same as Israel refusing to extradite the Polish War Criminal to
face trial in Poland!!!
>not the Nazi's.



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Those who wish to support the Christkillers, the cursed JEWS, also
wish to rewrite history.

They do not want the present survivors around the world to remember
that 100 million have been killed in the last 80 years by the JEW-led
communists!! This is well documented in the recently released book in
France.


On Sat, 22 Nov 1997 10:42:52 +0800, Aduru  wrote:

>Another Zaphod wrote:
>the
>> only famous American who was anti-Semitic, because there were many of
>> the most powerful rich industrialists and politicians of that time who
>> shared his opinions.  And by the way they also didn't like Africans or
>> Chinese or American Indians.  So what?  What does the rantings of a
>> long-dead car maker have to do with the situation in Malaysia today?
>
>Oh boy.. whoever told you it has anything to do with the "situation in
>Malaysia today"! What's a fact is that Jews create troubles wherever
>they are, to the whites, blacks, browns and yellows. Until you get this
>right, you're fooling yourself.
>
>Aduru



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On 4 Jan 1999 01:40:13 GMT, kmcvay@ (Kenneth McVay SOBC) wrote:

>In article <3690a854.686658@news.sprint.ca>,   wrote:
>>Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Muldoon of
>>the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the
>>more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

>>Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions "smells"
>>of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Muldoon of
the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the
more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions "smells"
of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted "on behalf of all
fellow  taxpayers,except the favoured few."


On 12 Apr 1998 22:36:43 -0700, kmcvay@nanaimo.island.net (Ken McVay)
wrote:

>>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!


Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
BRONFMAN JEWS!!!
 
In fact Revenue Canada officials had decided 12 december 1991 that the
Bronfmans were supposed to pay their taxes on this money!!!

George Harris, according to CP, is claiming that the Auditor General
of Canada  in May 1996, exposed the fact that the JEW Bronfmans did
not pay their taxes on the 2.2 Billion, thereby cheating the tax
department out of " hundreds of millions of dollars"!!!

Harris is fighting for the rights of all  non-JEW taxpayers on this
issue.

He is quoted as saying, according to CP:"He will be helping to sustain
public confidence in our income tax system, as well as the
administration of justice generally."


Could it be that the goy-boy Oyvay finally got kicked out of NIZKOR,
since the Bnai Brith could no longer stand the heat of the
investigations for tax fraud?/

Did the IRS and Revenue Canada Taxation finally get fed up with the
multi-million dollar FRAUD by OyVay??

Is that why the filthy pervert OyVay is now in hiding back in
Nanaimo???

Is OyVay back to being a "gas station attendant" for his living, or is
it again on welfare???

> I've tried CP on the web, Edmonton and Calgary papers, and the
>Winnipeg Free Press, and just can't find this story. 
It seems that the cretin OyVay can not read - it was a feature article
in the Sun newspapers, for example...


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On Sun, 03 Jan 1999 20:40:23 -0700, Ed Kadach 
wrote:
>Red Herring wrote:
>> On Sat, 02 Jan 1999 14:34:12 GMT, stpaul@roma.org wrote:

>> >>> Ukrainians ate their pets,
>> >>>boots and belts, plus bark and roots. Some parents even ate infant
>> >>>children.

>> What a savage, subhuman people!


>Ahh, I assume you are referring to the jews, right?

>Ed Kadach


I guess the JEWS do not like having one of their people actually tell
the TRUTH, as follows:

On Wed, 16 Dec 1998 14:33:14 GMT, dcohen@chambre.com wrote:
>On 14 Dec 1998 05:44:48, nikst@glasnet.ru wrote:
>>Reply-To: 
>>From: "nikst" 
>>Subject: THE TORONTO SUN: Remembering Ukraine's Unknown Holocaust
>>Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 04:47:59 +0300

>>THE TORONTO SUN, Sunday, December 13, 1998

>>Remembering Ukraine's Unknown Holocaust

>>By ERIC MARGOLIS
>>Contributing Foreign Editor

>>As Britain's socialist government cleared the way for a gaudy show 
>>trial of that Great Satan of the left, Chile's Gen. Augusto Pinochet, 
>>the 65th anniversary of this century's bloodiest crime was utterly 
>>ignored. Leftists now baying for Pinochet's head don't want to be 
>>reminded of the Unknown Holocaust.

>>In 1932, Soviet leader Josef Stalin unleashed genocide in
>>Ukraine. Stalin determined to force Ukraine's millions of independent
>>farmers - called kulaks - into collectivized Soviet agriculture, and to
>>crush Ukraine's growing spirit of nationalism.

>> Faced by resistance to collectivization, Stalin unleashed
>>terror and dispatched 25,000 fanatical young party militants from 
>>Moscow
>>- earlier versions of Mao's Red Guards - to force 10 million Ukrainian
>>peasants into collective farms. Secret police units of OGPU began
>>selective executions of recalcitrant farmers.

>>When Stalin's red guards failed to make a dent in this immense number, 
>>OGPU was ordered to begin mass executions. But there were simply not 
>>enough Chekists (secret police) to kill so many people, so Stalin 
>>decided to replace bullets with a much cheaper medium of death - mass
>>starvation.

>>All seed stocks, grain, silage and farm animals were
>>confiscated from Ukraine's farms. (Ethiopia's Communist dictator
>>Mengistu Haile Mariam used the same method in the 1970s to force
>>collectivization: the resulting famine cased one million deaths.)

>>OGPU agents and Red Army troops sealed all roads and rail
>>lines. Nothing came in or out of Ukraine. Farms were searched and 
>>looted of food and fuel. Ukrainians quickly began to die of hunger, 
>>cold and sickness.

>>When OGPU failed to meet weekly execution quotas, Stalin sent
>>henchman Lazar Kaganovitch to destroy Ukrainian resistance. 
>>Kaganovitch, the Soviet Eichmann, made quota, shooting 10,000 
>>Ukrainians weekly. Eighty percent of all Ukrainian intellectuals were 
>>executed. A Ukrainian party member named Nikita Khruschchev helped 
>>supervise the slaughter.

>>During the bitter winter of 1932-33, mass starvation created
>>by Kaganovitch and OGPU hit full force. Ukrainians ate their pets, 
>>boots and belts, plus bark and roots. Some parents even ate infant 
>>children.

>>The precise number of Ukrainians murdered by Stalin's
>>custom-made famine and Cheka firing squads remains unknown to this day.
>>The KGB's archives, and recent work by Russian historians, show at 
>>least seven million died. Ukrainian historians put the figure at nine 
>>million, or higher. Twenty-five percent of Ukraine's population was 
>>exterminated.

>>Millions of victims

>>Six million other farmers across the USSR were starved or shot
>>during collectivization. Stalin told Winston Churchill he liquidated 10
>>million peasants during the 1930s. Add mass executions by the Cheka in
>>Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania; the genocide of three million Muslims in
>>the USSR; massacres of Cossacks and Volga Germans and Soviet industrial
>>genocide accounted for at least 40 million victims, not including 20
>>million war dead.

>>Kaganovitch and many senior OGPU officers (later, NKVD) were
>>Jewish. The predominance of Jews among Bolshevik leaders, and the
>>frightful crimes and cruelty inflicted by Stalin's Cheka on Ukraine, 
>>the Baltic states and Poland, led the victims of Red Terror to blame 
>>the Jewish people for both communism and their suffering. 

When even a Jew writer admits the truth, perhaps Christmas is near??


>As a direct
>>result, during the subsequent Nazi occupation of Eastern Europe, the
>>region's innocent Jews became the target of ferocious revenge by
>>Ukrainians, Balts and Poles.

>>While the world is by now fully aware of the destruction of
>>Europe's Jews by the Nazis, the story of the numerically larger
>>holocaust in Ukraine has been suppressed, or ignored. Ukraine's 
>>genocide occurred 8-9 years before Hitler began the Jewish Holocaust, 
>>and was committed, unlike Nazi crimes, before the world's gaze. But 
>>Stalin's murder of millions was simply denied, or concealed by a 
>>left-wing conspiracy of silence that continues to this day. In the 
>>strange moral geometry of mass murder, only Nazis are guilty.

>>Socialist luminaries like Bernard Shaw, Beatrice and Sidney
>>Webb and PM Edouard Herriot of France, toured Ukraine during 1932-33 
>>and proclaimed reports of famine were false. Shaw announced: "I did not 
>>see one under-nourished person in Russia." New York Times correspondent
>>Walter Duranty, who won a Pulitzer Prize for his Russian reporting,
>>wrote claims of famine were "malignant propaganda." Seven million 
>>people were dying around them, yet these fools saw nothing. The New 
>>York Times has never repudiated Duranty's lies.

>>Modern leftists do not care to be reminded their ideological
>>and historical roots are entwined with this century's greatest crime -
>>the inevitable result of enforced social engineering and Marxist
>>theology.

>>Western historians delicately skirt the sordid fact that the
>>governments of Britain, the U.S. and Canada were fully aware of the
>>Ukrainian genocide and Stalin's other monstrous crimes. Yet they 
>>eagerly welcomed him as an ally during World War II. Stalin, who 
>>Franklin Roosevelt called "Uncle Joe," murdered four times more people 
>>than Adolf Hitler.

>>None of the Soviet mass murderers who committed genocide were
>>ever brought to justice. Lazar Kaganovitch died peacefully in Moscow a
>>few years ago, still wearing his Order of the Soviet Union, and 
>>enjoying a generous state pension.

>>Eric can be reached by e-mail at: margolis@foreigncorrespondent.com.

>>Letters to the editor should be sent to: editor@sunpub.com.





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On Tue, 05 Jan 1999 01:52:04 GMT, Ed Kadach 
wrote:
Subject:  Re: Jew Lust for Lesbianism/Faggots

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In Canada a JEW Rabbi now wants to perform ILLEGAL marriages of
faggots and lezzies. Story follows:
On Sat, 26 Dec 1998 19:04:05 GMT, kenmaggot@nazikor.niz.org wrote:

>In a move sure to anger orthodox Jews, as well as normal humans, newspapers
>across Canada report that a Winnipeg synagogue will perform marriages
>of same sex persons.

>This, even though there is no law in Canada permitting this!!!

>Rabbi Michael  Levenson of Temple Shalom admits that his actions are
>illegal. 


If his actions are illegal, why don't the authorities send him to
jail??


>He is quoted as saying that his ceremonies will be recognised
>from a religious point of view, not a political one. Levenson alleges
>that members of his temple supposedly supported his action.  However,
>even normal Jews are criticising this action. It seems that what this
>Jew is doing, is NOT acceptable, according to the Torah.


No wonder people think of the jews as mainly sodomites.




On Sun, 27 Dec 1998 05:45:47 +0000, Claymore
 wrote:

>All LEZZAS are Hate filled Bigoted Scum, just like faggots and should be
>GASSED !.

>In article <75ultu$2r0@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>, Israel Schiff
> writes
>>On Mon, 23 Dec 1996, Elazar wrote: "For my Jewish brethren searching for a
>>Biblical basis for sanctioning homosexuality, I provide you with words from
>>Rabbis Marc Angel, Hillel Goldberg and Pinchas Stopler in their joint
>>article published in the Winter, 1992-93 edition of Jewish Action Magazine;"
>>Well, here's another viewpoint: Bible Review, December 1993, p. 11 DOES THE
>>BIBLE PROHIBIT HOMOSEXUALITY? by Rabbi Jacob Milgrom: "The Biblical
>>prohibition is addressed only to Israel. It is incorrect to apply it on a
>>universal scale.
>>This past Yom Kippur, September 25, 1993, my synagogue invited me to explain
>>the afternoon scriptural reading, the list of forbidden sexual liaisons in
>>Leviticus 18. I chose to focus on what is today one of the most frequently
>>quoted passages in the entire Bible, "Do not lie with a male as one lies
>>with a woman, it is an abomination" (Leviticus 18:22).
>>
>>What I said may be both good news and bad news to my Christian friends,
>>depending on their position on gay and lesbian rights. This Biblical
>>prohibition is addressed only to the Jews. Non-Jews are affected only if
>>they reside in the Holy Land, but not elsewhere (see the closing exhortation
>>in Leviticus 18, verses 24-30). Thus, it is incorrect to apply this
>>prohibition on a universal scale.
>>
>>But I spoke to my fellow Jews, who are required to observe this prohibition.
>>What is the rationale for this prohibition? In a previous column, I noted
>>that the Bible's impurity rules are part of a symbol system representing the
>>forces of life and death. Israel is required to avoid these impurities and
>>adhere to the laws commanded by God, who promotes the forces of life. Thus
>>in the same chapter we read, "You shall heed my statutes and my rules, by
>>doing them one shall live" (Leviticus 18:5). A man who discharges semen,
>>whether intentionally or otherwise, is declared impure and must purify
>>himself by bathing (a sort of re-baptism) before he is permitted to enter
>>the Temple or touch sacred (sacrificial) food (Leviticus 15:16-18). Why?
>>Because semen stands for life, and the loss of semen symbolizes the loss of
>>life.
>>
>>Note also that in the entire list of forbidden sexual unions, THERE IS NO
>>PROHIBITION AGAINST LESBIANISM. Can it be that lesbianism did not exist in
>>ancient times or that Scripture was unaware of its existence? Lesbians
>>existed and flourished, as attested in an old (pre-Israelite)
>>
>>Babylonian text and in the work of the lesbian poet Sappho (born c. 612
>>B.C.E., during the time of the First Temple), who came from the island of
>>Lesbos (hence lesbianism). But there is a fundamental difference between the
>>homosexual acts of men and women. IN LESBIANISM THERE IS NO SPILLING OF
>>SEED. Thus life is not symbolically lost, and therefore lesbianism is not
>>prohibited in the Bible.
>>
>>My argument ostensibly can be countered by a more comprehensive biblical
>>injunction. The very first commandment, given to Adam and repeated to Noah,
>>is "Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth" (Genesis 1:28 and Genesis
>>9:1,7). The descendants of Noah--the entire human race--are duty-bound to
>>fulfill this commandment. But the truth is that we have not only filled the
>>earth, we have over-filled it. This does not mean, however, that the
>>commandment should be thought of as no longer in force--especially among
>>Jews, who have lost a third of their members in our lifetime. I recall an
>>incident during a premarital interview from the early years of my rabbinate.
>>The starry-eyed bride declared her noble intention to have twelve children
>>to compensate for the tragic loss of six million killed in the Holocaust. I
>>gasped, "Must you do it all by yourself?"
>>
>>I have since come to regret my flippant reply. This couple regarded their
>>forthcoming marriage as a sacrament not just between themselves, but with
>>the >Jewish people. The problem has worsened for American Jews. Because
>>intermarriage is rife and the Jewish birth rate is low, American Jewry, once
>>at zero population growth, has dipped into the minus column. Were it not for
>>a steady stream of converts, the extinction of American Jewry would be even
>>more imminent. For us the divine command, "Be fruitful and multiply" is
>>truly in force.
>>
>>To Jewish homosexuals I offer an unoriginal solution. As compensation for
>>your loss of seed, adopt children. Although adoption was practiced in the
>>ancient world (as attested in Babylonian law), there is no Biblical
>>procedure or institution of adoption. As a result the institution of
>>adoption is absent from rabbinic jurisprudence. Yet there are isolated cases
>>of a kind of pseudo-adoption in the Bible. For example, Abraham, long
>>childless, complains to God that Eliezer of Damascus, his steward, will
>>inherit him (Genesis 15:2). And barren Rachel beseeches her husband Jacob,
>>"Here is my maid Bilhah--go into her that she may bear on my knees and that
>>through her I too may have children" (Genesis 30:3). Adoption is certainly a
>>possibility today.
>>
>>Lesbian couples have an additional advantage. Not only do they not violate
>>biblical law, but through artificial insemination each can become the
>>natural mother of her children.
>>
>>Thus from the Bible we can infer the following: Lesbians, presumably half of
>>the world's homosexual population, are not mentioned. More than ninety-nine
>>percent of the gays, namely non-Jews, are not addressed. This leaves the
>>small number of male Jewish gays subject to this >prohibition. If they are
>>biologically or psychologically incapable of procreation, adoption provides
>>a solution. I hope the Eternal, in love and compassion, will then reckon
>>their spilled seed as producing fruit. Jacob Milgrom." (Bible Review, a
>>publication of the Biblical Archeology Society 3000 Connecticut Avenue NW,
>>Suite 300, Washington DC 20008, 202 387 8888


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On Tue, 05 Jan 1999 10:49:39 GMT, "Truthseeker" 
wrote:
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Never again? Think again
>Russian general leads wave of anti-Semitism
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------

>By Kaye Corbett
>© 1999 WorldNetDaily.com

>It's a voice from out of 1942 Nazi Germany.

>However, it's a Russian general, Albert Makashov, now leading the wave of
>anti-Semitism sweeping the world.

>The evil spirit of Adolph Hitler is alive and flourishing today.

>"Life in our country is getting worse and worse. Never has it been this bad
>in Russia, even under the Mongol yoke. Who is to blame? The executive
>branch, the bankers, and the mass media are to blame. Usury, deceit,
>corruption, and thievery are flourishing in the country. That is why I call
>the reformers yids.

>"Who are these Jews?

>"In English they are called Jews, in French -- Juif, and in Yiddish -- Yid."

>Born the son of Mikhail Ivanovich Makashev, the name Albert was given to him
>by the mistress, Natalya Vasilyevna, when she was reading the George Sand
>novel "Consuelo" in 1938.

>"It is a good thing that during that time of friendship with Germany they
>did not call me Adolph," Makashov wrote in an article, "Usurers of Russia."

>Christened Dmitriy by old-rite Christian women in Krasnyy Log in honor of
>St. Dmitriy Donskoy, this "son of a cook" was reared and educated by the
>Soviet regime and graduated from the Academy imeni Frunze and the General
>Staff Academy with gold medals. He worked his way up from platoon commander
>(commander of a remote intelligence group) to commander of two military
>districts to become a general and later a Communist Party deputy in the
>Russian Duma -- Parliament.

>Throughout October 1998 Makashov made a series of statements calling for the
>extermination of all Jews in Russia and blaming them for the country's
>economic problems.

>In 1993, Makashov played a major role in street violence, urging crowds of
>his supporters to seek out and beat Jews, reported JTA. His own Communist
>Party seemingly condoned his recent actions with 83 of the party members
>voting against censure. Leader Gennady Zyuganov and 44 others didn't even
>vote at all.

>Trying to be diplomatic, Zyuganov fumbled with the issue and was quoted as
>saying, "The essence and spirit of our party lies in friendship and respect
>for each individual, irrespective of nationality. Even Makashov will obey
>the party's demands. But, on the other hand, there is not a single audience
>today -- I emphasize, not a single one -- that does not ask questions about
>the subject of Jews."


Guess that in Russia, they are finally starting to review the
oppression by the cursed JEWS, since the time of Lenin,Marx and
Dzerzhinski!!!!

>Then in a chilling voice, Makasov stated: "I am a Russian general. When I
>see what the cosmopolitans are doing with my Motherland -- Russia (the
>Soviet Union) -- it makes my blood boil! The little devils 'got me' with
>their threats in connection with the events of October 1993. I said that
>even after I died I would take at least a dozen yids with me to the great
>beyond. An eye for an eye!"

>Then he emphasized that "Yid is not a nationality, yid is a profession.
>Balzac's Gobsek is a Juif, the Gogolian skinflint Plyuskin is a yid. These
>images have become a permanent part of world literature. Whoever reads
>Pushkin, Dostoyev, Gogol, or Shevchenko knows no other word to designate the
>ravager, the bloodsucker feeding on the misfortunes of other people. They
>drink the blood of the indigenous peoples of the state; they are destroying
>industry and agriculture.

>"They are destroying the Russian army and navy and its strategic nuclear
>forces. They accept the population's money to be kept in the banks and then
>give it away, leaving nothing for funerals, for rent, for old age. Having
>taken over television, radio, and the press, they do not give a damn about
>the history and culture of the country that nurtured them, saved them from
>the furnaces and fascism, and took responsibility for educating them.

>"They grabbed whatever they could, and today they own 60 per cent of
>Russia's capital. The concepts 'Zionist' and 'yid' are inseparable. The
>intelligentsia says 'Zionist' but the people use Pushkin's word: 'yid.' The
>concepts of Zionism and fascism are inseparable, and when they scare people
>with Russian fascism, it is the same as when a thief shouts: 'Stop that
>thief!'"

>Can't you almost hear the goose-stepping boots pounding on the pavement and
>the evil cry: Seig Heil?

>Although the world may consider Makashov a lunatic, just remember that in
>Russia and throughout the former Soviet Union, authority figures such as
>those in the Duma are obeyed without question.

>Violence against Jews throughout the world has been increasing with
>synagogues being burned and the murder of "God's Chosen People."

>With Russia now in chaos, similar to Germany in the late '30s and '40s,
>another leader in the mold of Adolph Hitler has now risen on the scene. His
>name is General Albert Makashov.




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On 2 Jan 1999 02:01:14 +0200, vaget@apex.dp.ua wrote:

>Dear People from Muslim World:
>Immigration To Canada

This smells like another swindle by criminals trying to get more
criminals and other undesirables into Canada!!!

Legitimate, qualified individuals do not need to pay scammers to apply
to emigrate to canada.

Only those unsuited, and unqualified, need pay for the service, which
is available FREE at all Canada immigration offices!!!!


By the way, since when is the appellation "attorney at law" legal in
Canada??


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Those who wish to support the Christkillers, the cursed JEWS, also
wish to rewrite history.

They do not want the present survivors around the world to remember
that 100 million have been killed in the last 80 years by the JEW-led
communists!! This is well documented in the recently released book in
France.


On Sat, 22 Nov 1997 10:42:52 +0800, Aduru  wrote:

>Another Zaphod wrote:
>the
>> only famous American who was anti-Semitic, because there were many of
>> the most powerful rich industrialists and politicians of that time who
>> shared his opinions.  And by the way they also didn't like Africans or
>> Chinese or American Indians.  So what?  What does the rantings of a
>> long-dead car maker have to do with the situation in Malaysia today?
>
>Oh boy.. whoever told you it has anything to do with the "situation in
>Malaysia today"! What's a fact is that Jews create troubles wherever
>they are, to the whites, blacks, browns and yellows. Until you get this
>right, you're fooling yourself.
>
>Aduru



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On 3 Jan 1999 07:36:56 GMT, kmcvay (Kenneth McVay SOBC) wrote:

>In article <368EBF91.81EC86BB@coqui.net>,
>Martin Goldstein   wrote:
>
>>Does it also follow that ALL christians "lust for lesbianism/faggots
>>because some
>>christian priests and ministers also perform same-sex marriages?

Rest of article follows, for normal people to read.

In Canada a JEW Rabbi now wants to perform ILLEGAL marriages of
faggots and lezzies. Story follows:
On Sat, 26 Dec 1998 19:04:05 GMT, kenmaggot@nazikor.niz.org wrote:

>In a move sure to anger orthodox Jews, as well as normal humans, newspapers
>across Canada report that a Winnipeg synagogue will perform marriages
>of same sex persons.

>This, even though there is no law in Canada permitting this!!!

>Rabbi Michael  Levenson of Temple Shalom admits that his actions are
>illegal. 


If his actions are illegal, why don't the authorities send him to
jail??


>He is quoted as saying that his ceremonies will be recognised
>from a religious point of view, not a political one. Levenson alleges
>that members of his temple supposedly supported his action.  However,
>even normal Jews are criticising this action. It seems that what this
>Jew is doing, is NOT acceptable, according to the Torah.


No wonder people think of the jews as mainly sodomites.




On Sun, 27 Dec 1998 05:45:47 +0000, Claymore
 wrote:

>All LEZZAS are Hate filled Bigoted Scum, just like faggots and should be
>GASSED !.

>In article <75ultu$2r0@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>, Israel Schiff
> writes
>>On Mon, 23 Dec 1996, Elazar wrote: "For my Jewish brethren searching for a
>>Biblical basis for sanctioning homosexuality, I provide you with words from
>>Rabbis Marc Angel, Hillel Goldberg and Pinchas Stopler in their joint
>>article published in the Winter, 1992-93 edition of Jewish Action Magazine;"
>>Well, here's another viewpoint: Bible Review, December 1993, p. 11 DOES THE
>>BIBLE PROHIBIT HOMOSEXUALITY? by Rabbi Jacob Milgrom: "The Biblical
>>prohibition is addressed only to Israel. It is incorrect to apply it on a
>>universal scale.
>>This past Yom Kippur, September 25, 1993, my synagogue invited me to explain
>>the afternoon scriptural reading, the list of forbidden sexual liaisons in
>>Leviticus 18. I chose to focus on what is today one of the most frequently
>>quoted passages in the entire Bible, "Do not lie with a male as one lies
>>with a woman, it is an abomination" (Leviticus 18:22).
>>
>>What I said may be both good news and bad news to my Christian friends,
>>depending on their position on gay and lesbian rights. This Biblical
>>prohibition is addressed only to the Jews. Non-Jews are affected only if
>>they reside in the Holy Land, but not elsewhere (see the closing exhortation
>>in Leviticus 18, verses 24-30). Thus, it is incorrect to apply this
>>prohibition on a universal scale.
>>
>>But I spoke to my fellow Jews, who are required to observe this prohibition.
>>What is the rationale for this prohibition? In a previous column, I noted
>>that the Bible's impurity rules are part of a symbol system representing the
>>forces of life and death. Israel is required to avoid these impurities and
>>adhere to the laws commanded by God, who promotes the forces of life. Thus
>>in the same chapter we read, "You shall heed my statutes and my rules, by
>>doing them one shall live" (Leviticus 18:5). A man who discharges semen,
>>whether intentionally or otherwise, is declared impure and must purify
>>himself by bathing (a sort of re-baptism) before he is permitted to enter
>>the Temple or touch sacred (sacrificial) food (Leviticus 15:16-18). Why?
>>Because semen stands for life, and the loss of semen symbolizes the loss of
>>life.
>>
>>Note also that in the entire list of forbidden sexual unions, THERE IS NO
>>PROHIBITION AGAINST LESBIANISM. Can it be that lesbianism did not exist in
>>ancient times or that Scripture was unaware of its existence? Lesbians
>>existed and flourished, as attested in an old (pre-Israelite)
>>
>>Babylonian text and in the work of the lesbian poet Sappho (born c. 612
>>B.C.E., during the time of the First Temple), who came from the island of
>>Lesbos (hence lesbianism). But there is a fundamental difference between the
>>homosexual acts of men and women. IN LESBIANISM THERE IS NO SPILLING OF
>>SEED. Thus life is not symbolically lost, and therefore lesbianism is not
>>prohibited in the Bible.
>>
>>My argument ostensibly can be countered by a more comprehensive biblical
>>injunction. The very first commandment, given to Adam and repeated to Noah,
>>is "Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth" (Genesis 1:28 and Genesis
>>9:1,7). The descendants of Noah--the entire human race--are duty-bound to
>>fulfill this commandment. But the truth is that we have not only filled the
>>earth, we have over-filled it. This does not mean, however, that the
>>commandment should be thought of as no longer in force--especially among
>>Jews, who have lost a third of their members in our lifetime. I recall an
>>incident during a premarital interview from the early years of my rabbinate.
>>The starry-eyed bride declared her noble intention to have twelve children
>>to compensate for the tragic loss of six million killed in the Holocaust. I
>>gasped, "Must you do it all by yourself?"
>>
>>I have since come to regret my flippant reply. This couple regarded their
>>forthcoming marriage as a sacrament not just between themselves, but with
>>the >Jewish people. The problem has worsened for American Jews. Because
>>intermarriage is rife and the Jewish birth rate is low, American Jewry, once
>>at zero population growth, has dipped into the minus column. Were it not for
>>a steady stream of converts, the extinction of American Jewry would be even
>>more imminent. For us the divine command, "Be fruitful and multiply" is
>>truly in force.
>>
>>To Jewish homosexuals I offer an unoriginal solution. As compensation for
>>your loss of seed, adopt children. Although adoption was practiced in the
>>ancient world (as attested in Babylonian law), there is no Biblical
>>procedure or institution of adoption. As a result the institution of
>>adoption is absent from rabbinic jurisprudence. Yet there are isolated cases
>>of a kind of pseudo-adoption in the Bible. For example, Abraham, long
>>childless, complains to God that Eliezer of Damascus, his steward, will
>>inherit him (Genesis 15:2). And barren Rachel beseeches her husband Jacob,
>>"Here is my maid Bilhah--go into her that she may bear on my knees and that
>>through her I too may have children" (Genesis 30:3). Adoption is certainly a
>>possibility today.
>>
>>Lesbian couples have an additional advantage. Not only do they not violate
>>biblical law, but through artificial insemination each can become the
>>natural mother of her children.
>>
>>Thus from the Bible we can infer the following: Lesbians, presumably half of
>>the world's homosexual population, are not mentioned. More than ninety-nine
>>percent of the gays, namely non-Jews, are not addressed. This leaves the
>>small number of male Jewish gays subject to this >prohibition. If they are
>>biologically or psychologically incapable of procreation, adoption provides
>>a solution. I hope the Eternal, in love and compassion, will then reckon
>>their spilled seed as producing fruit. Jacob Milgrom." (Bible Review, a
>>publication of the Biblical Archeology Society 3000 Connecticut Avenue NW,
>>Suite 300, Washington DC 20008, 202 387 8888




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On 04 Jan 1999 03:27:34 GMT, aris2chat@aol.com2Duchess (Aris2chat)
wrote:
>stpaul@roma.org writes:

>>No wonder people think of the jews as mainly sodomites.

>Homosexuality has been around since the beginning of recorded time, and I'm
>sure before that.
>Why should people that find love not be allowed to share that love with each
>other.  Is love not one of the most important things God wants us to have? 
>What of all the other religions that have homosexuals some of them are getting
>married both civil and religious.  Why are you upset by the wanting to do the
>same finally?
>They're people too.  They deserve to have love.  Why do you care?
>(\  ~  /)  Liz "Duchess" 
> ( \O/ )  Aris2chat@aol.com


Because AIDS, the incurable disease, was spread worldwide, and
deliberately, by faggots!!!

Read the 640 pages of documentation in the book "AND THE BAND PLAYED
ON" which details the spread of AIDS, starting with the faggot with
Air Canada!!!

No wonder good Muslims believe that the only good pervert is an
executed one. That is why Anwar in Malaysia is being prosecuted...



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On Tue, 05 Jan 1999 01:52:04 GMT, Ed Kadach 
wrote:
Subject:  Re: Jew Lust for Lesbianism/Faggots

Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian, soc.culture.polish,
soc.culture.palestine
References: 1


In Canada a JEW Rabbi now wants to perform ILLEGAL marriages of
faggots and lezzies. Story follows:
On Sat, 26 Dec 1998 19:04:05 GMT, kenmaggot@nazikor.niz.org wrote:

>In a move sure to anger orthodox Jews, as well as normal humans, newspapers
>across Canada report that a Winnipeg synagogue will perform marriages
>of same sex persons.

>This, even though there is no law in Canada permitting this!!!

>Rabbi Michael  Levenson of Temple Shalom admits that his actions are
>illegal. 


If his actions are illegal, why don't the authorities send him to
jail??


>He is quoted as saying that his ceremonies will be recognised
>from a religious point of view, not a political one. Levenson alleges
>that members of his temple supposedly supported his action.  However,
>even normal Jews are criticising this action. It seems that what this
>Jew is doing, is NOT acceptable, according to the Torah.


No wonder people think of the jews as mainly sodomites.




On Sun, 27 Dec 1998 05:45:47 +0000, Claymore
 wrote:

>All LEZZAS are Hate filled Bigoted Scum, just like faggots and should be
>GASSED !.

>In article <75ultu$2r0@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>, Israel Schiff
> writes
>>On Mon, 23 Dec 1996, Elazar wrote: "For my Jewish brethren searching for a
>>Biblical basis for sanctioning homosexuality, I provide you with words from
>>Rabbis Marc Angel, Hillel Goldberg and Pinchas Stopler in their joint
>>article published in the Winter, 1992-93 edition of Jewish Action Magazine;"
>>Well, here's another viewpoint: Bible Review, December 1993, p. 11 DOES THE
>>BIBLE PROHIBIT HOMOSEXUALITY? by Rabbi Jacob Milgrom: "The Biblical
>>prohibition is addressed only to Israel. It is incorrect to apply it on a
>>universal scale.
>>This past Yom Kippur, September 25, 1993, my synagogue invited me to explain
>>the afternoon scriptural reading, the list of forbidden sexual liaisons in
>>Leviticus 18. I chose to focus on what is today one of the most frequently
>>quoted passages in the entire Bible, "Do not lie with a male as one lies
>>with a woman, it is an abomination" (Leviticus 18:22).
>>
>>What I said may be both good news and bad news to my Christian friends,
>>depending on their position on gay and lesbian rights. This Biblical
>>prohibition is addressed only to the Jews. Non-Jews are affected only if
>>they reside in the Holy Land, but not elsewhere (see the closing exhortation
>>in Leviticus 18, verses 24-30). Thus, it is incorrect to apply this
>>prohibition on a universal scale.
>>
>>But I spoke to my fellow Jews, who are required to observe this prohibition.
>>What is the rationale for this prohibition? In a previous column, I noted
>>that the Bible's impurity rules are part of a symbol system representing the
>>forces of life and death. Israel is required to avoid these impurities and
>>adhere to the laws commanded by God, who promotes the forces of life. Thus
>>in the same chapter we read, "You shall heed my statutes and my rules, by
>>doing them one shall live" (Leviticus 18:5). A man who discharges semen,
>>whether intentionally or otherwise, is declared impure and must purify
>>himself by bathing (a sort of re-baptism) before he is permitted to enter
>>the Temple or touch sacred (sacrificial) food (Leviticus 15:16-18). Why?
>>Because semen stands for life, and the loss of semen symbolizes the loss of
>>life.
>>
>>Note also that in the entire list of forbidden sexual unions, THERE IS NO
>>PROHIBITION AGAINST LESBIANISM. Can it be that lesbianism did not exist in
>>ancient times or that Scripture was unaware of its existence? Lesbians
>>existed and flourished, as attested in an old (pre-Israelite)
>>
>>Babylonian text and in the work of the lesbian poet Sappho (born c. 612
>>B.C.E., during the time of the First Temple), who came from the island of
>>Lesbos (hence lesbianism). But there is a fundamental difference between the
>>homosexual acts of men and women. IN LESBIANISM THERE IS NO SPILLING OF
>>SEED. Thus life is not symbolically lost, and therefore lesbianism is not
>>prohibited in the Bible.
>>
>>My argument ostensibly can be countered by a more comprehensive biblical
>>injunction. The very first commandment, given to Adam and repeated to Noah,
>>is "Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth" (Genesis 1:28 and Genesis
>>9:1,7). The descendants of Noah--the entire human race--are duty-bound to
>>fulfill this commandment. But the truth is that we have not only filled the
>>earth, we have over-filled it. This does not mean, however, that the
>>commandment should be thought of as no longer in force--especially among
>>Jews, who have lost a third of their members in our lifetime. I recall an
>>incident during a premarital interview from the early years of my rabbinate.
>>The starry-eyed bride declared her noble intention to have twelve children
>>to compensate for the tragic loss of six million killed in the Holocaust. I
>>gasped, "Must you do it all by yourself?"
>>
>>I have since come to regret my flippant reply. This couple regarded their
>>forthcoming marriage as a sacrament not just between themselves, but with
>>the >Jewish people. The problem has worsened for American Jews. Because
>>intermarriage is rife and the Jewish birth rate is low, American Jewry, once
>>at zero population growth, has dipped into the minus column. Were it not for
>>a steady stream of converts, the extinction of American Jewry would be even
>>more imminent. For us the divine command, "Be fruitful and multiply" is
>>truly in force.
>>
>>To Jewish homosexuals I offer an unoriginal solution. As compensation for
>>your loss of seed, adopt children. Although adoption was practiced in the
>>ancient world (as attested in Babylonian law), there is no Biblical
>>procedure or institution of adoption. As a result the institution of
>>adoption is absent from rabbinic jurisprudence. Yet there are isolated cases
>>of a kind of pseudo-adoption in the Bible. For example, Abraham, long
>>childless, complains to God that Eliezer of Damascus, his steward, will
>>inherit him (Genesis 15:2). And barren Rachel beseeches her husband Jacob,
>>"Here is my maid Bilhah--go into her that she may bear on my knees and that
>>through her I too may have children" (Genesis 30:3). Adoption is certainly a
>>possibility today.
>>
>>Lesbian couples have an additional advantage. Not only do they not violate
>>biblical law, but through artificial insemination each can become the
>>natural mother of her children.
>>
>>Thus from the Bible we can infer the following: Lesbians, presumably half of
>>the world's homosexual population, are not mentioned. More than ninety-nine
>>percent of the gays, namely non-Jews, are not addressed. This leaves the
>>small number of male Jewish gays subject to this >prohibition. If they are
>>biologically or psychologically incapable of procreation, adoption provides
>>a solution. I hope the Eternal, in love and compassion, will then reckon
>>their spilled seed as producing fruit. Jacob Milgrom." (Bible Review, a
>>publication of the Biblical Archeology Society 3000 Connecticut Avenue NW,
>>Suite 300, Washington DC 20008, 202 387 8888


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On Mon, 04 Jan 1999 08:02:37 GMT, notalways@earthlinkspamblocker.net
(Brian Blank) wanted to write the truth, as follows:

On Sun, 03 Jan 1999 16:56:11 GMT, chiffre@chambre.com wrote:

>Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
>the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the 
>more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

>Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions 
>"smells" of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

>Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted "on behalf 
>of all fellow  taxpayers,except the favoured few."

>Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
>the  Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the 
>more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

>Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions 
>"smells" of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

>Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted "on behalf 
>of all fellow  taxpayers,except the favoured few."


>On 12 Apr 1998 22:36:43 -0700, kmcvay@nanaimo.island.net (Ken McVay)
>wrote:
>>In article   wrote:

>>>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>>>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>>>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!


>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!

>In fact Revenue Canada officials had decided 12 December 1991 that the
>Bronfmans were supposed to pay their taxes on this money!!!

>George Harris, according to CP, is claiming that the Auditor General
>of Canada  in May 1996, exposed the fact that the JEW Bronfmans did
>not pay their taxes on the 2.2 Billion, thereby cheating the tax
>department out of " hundreds of millions of dollars"!!!

>Harris is fighting for the rights of all non-JEW taxpayers on this
>issue.

>He is quoted as saying, according to CP:"He will be helping to sustain
>public confidence in our income tax system, as well as the
>administration of justice generally."


>Could it be that the goy-boy Oyvay finally got kicked out of NIZKOR, 
>since the Bnai Brith could no longer stand the heat of the
>investigations for tax fraud?

>Did the IRS and Revenue Canada taxation finally get fed up with the
>multi-million dollar  FRAUD by OyVay??

>Is that why the filthy pervert OyVay is now in hiding back in
>Nanaimo???

>Is OyVay back to being a "gas station attendant" for his living, or is
>it again on welfare??


Guess even the shabbas-goy OyVay couldn't stop the Federal Court!!!
>Brian Blank
>(remove the spamblocker to reply)



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On 4 Jan 1999 01:40:13 GMT, kmcvay@ (Kenneth McVay SOBC) wrote:

>In article <3690a854.686658@news.sprint.ca>,   wrote:
>>Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Muldoon of
>>the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the
>>more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

>>Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions "smells"
>>of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Muldoon of
the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the
more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions "smells"
of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted "on behalf of all
fellow  taxpayers,except the favoured few."


On 12 Apr 1998 22:36:43 -0700, kmcvay@nanaimo.island.net (Ken McVay)
wrote:

>>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!


Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
BRONFMAN JEWS!!!
 
In fact Revenue Canada officials had decided 12 december 1991 that the
Bronfmans were supposed to pay their taxes on this money!!!

George Harris, according to CP, is claiming that the Auditor General
of Canada  in May 1996, exposed the fact that the JEW Bronfmans did
not pay their taxes on the 2.2 Billion, thereby cheating the tax
department out of " hundreds of millions of dollars"!!!

Harris is fighting for the rights of all  non-JEW taxpayers on this
issue.

He is quoted as saying, according to CP:"He will be helping to sustain
public confidence in our income tax system, as well as the
administration of justice generally."


Could it be that the goy-boy Oyvay finally got kicked out of NIZKOR,
since the Bnai Brith could no longer stand the heat of the
investigations for tax fraud?/

Did the IRS and Revenue Canada Taxation finally get fed up with the
multi-million dollar FRAUD by OyVay??

Is that why the filthy pervert OyVay is now in hiding back in
Nanaimo???

Is OyVay back to being a "gas station attendant" for his living, or is
it again on welfare???

> I've tried CP on the web, Edmonton and Calgary papers, and the
>Winnipeg Free Press, and just can't find this story. 
It seems that the cretin OyVay can not read - it was a feature article
in the Sun newspapers, for example...


From stpeter@roma.org Wed Jan  6 15:25:34 EST 1999
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On 04 Jan 1999 03:27:34 GMT, aris2chat@aol.com2Duchess (Aris2chat)
wrote:
>stpaul@roma.org writes:

>>No wonder people think of the jews as mainly sodomites.

>Homosexuality has been around since the beginning of recorded time, and I'm
>sure before that.
>Why should people that find love not be allowed to share that love with each
>other.  Is love not one of the most important things God wants us to have? 
>What of all the other religions that have homosexuals some of them are getting
>married both civil and religious.  Why are you upset by the wanting to do the
>same finally?
>They're people too.  They deserve to have love.  Why do you care?
>(\  ~  /)  Liz "Duchess" 
> ( \O/ )  Aris2chat@aol.com


Because AIDS, the incurable disease, was spread worldwide, and
deliberately, by faggots!!!

Read the 640 pages of documentation in the book "AND THE BAND PLAYED
ON" which details the spread of AIDS, starting with the faggot with
Air Canada!!!

No wonder good Muslims believe that the only good pervert is an
executed one. That is why Anwar in Malaysia is being prosecuted...



From stpeter@roma.org Wed Jan  6 15:25:35 EST 1999
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On Sun, 03 Jan 1999 20:40:23 -0700, Ed Kadach 
wrote:
>Red Herring wrote:
>> On Sat, 02 Jan 1999 14:34:12 GMT, stpaul@roma.org wrote:

>> >>> Ukrainians ate their pets,
>> >>>boots and belts, plus bark and roots. Some parents even ate infant
>> >>>children.

>> What a savage, subhuman people!


>Ahh, I assume you are referring to the jews, right?

>Ed Kadach


I guess the JEWS do not like having one of their people actually tell
the TRUTH, as follows:

On Wed, 16 Dec 1998 14:33:14 GMT, dcohen@chambre.com wrote:
>On 14 Dec 1998 05:44:48, nikst@glasnet.ru wrote:
>>Reply-To: 
>>From: "nikst" 
>>Subject: THE TORONTO SUN: Remembering Ukraine's Unknown Holocaust
>>Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 04:47:59 +0300

>>THE TORONTO SUN, Sunday, December 13, 1998

>>Remembering Ukraine's Unknown Holocaust

>>By ERIC MARGOLIS
>>Contributing Foreign Editor

>>As Britain's socialist government cleared the way for a gaudy show 
>>trial of that Great Satan of the left, Chile's Gen. Augusto Pinochet, 
>>the 65th anniversary of this century's bloodiest crime was utterly 
>>ignored. Leftists now baying for Pinochet's head don't want to be 
>>reminded of the Unknown Holocaust.

>>In 1932, Soviet leader Josef Stalin unleashed genocide in
>>Ukraine. Stalin determined to force Ukraine's millions of independent
>>farmers - called kulaks - into collectivized Soviet agriculture, and to
>>crush Ukraine's growing spirit of nationalism.

>> Faced by resistance to collectivization, Stalin unleashed
>>terror and dispatched 25,000 fanatical young party militants from 
>>Moscow
>>- earlier versions of Mao's Red Guards - to force 10 million Ukrainian
>>peasants into collective farms. Secret police units of OGPU began
>>selective executions of recalcitrant farmers.

>>When Stalin's red guards failed to make a dent in this immense number, 
>>OGPU was ordered to begin mass executions. But there were simply not 
>>enough Chekists (secret police) to kill so many people, so Stalin 
>>decided to replace bullets with a much cheaper medium of death - mass
>>starvation.

>>All seed stocks, grain, silage and farm animals were
>>confiscated from Ukraine's farms. (Ethiopia's Communist dictator
>>Mengistu Haile Mariam used the same method in the 1970s to force
>>collectivization: the resulting famine cased one million deaths.)

>>OGPU agents and Red Army troops sealed all roads and rail
>>lines. Nothing came in or out of Ukraine. Farms were searched and 
>>looted of food and fuel. Ukrainians quickly began to die of hunger, 
>>cold and sickness.

>>When OGPU failed to meet weekly execution quotas, Stalin sent
>>henchman Lazar Kaganovitch to destroy Ukrainian resistance. 
>>Kaganovitch, the Soviet Eichmann, made quota, shooting 10,000 
>>Ukrainians weekly. Eighty percent of all Ukrainian intellectuals were 
>>executed. A Ukrainian party member named Nikita Khruschchev helped 
>>supervise the slaughter.

>>During the bitter winter of 1932-33, mass starvation created
>>by Kaganovitch and OGPU hit full force. Ukrainians ate their pets, 
>>boots and belts, plus bark and roots. Some parents even ate infant 
>>children.

>>The precise number of Ukrainians murdered by Stalin's
>>custom-made famine and Cheka firing squads remains unknown to this day.
>>The KGB's archives, and recent work by Russian historians, show at 
>>least seven million died. Ukrainian historians put the figure at nine 
>>million, or higher. Twenty-five percent of Ukraine's population was 
>>exterminated.

>>Millions of victims

>>Six million other farmers across the USSR were starved or shot
>>during collectivization. Stalin told Winston Churchill he liquidated 10
>>million peasants during the 1930s. Add mass executions by the Cheka in
>>Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania; the genocide of three million Muslims in
>>the USSR; massacres of Cossacks and Volga Germans and Soviet industrial
>>genocide accounted for at least 40 million victims, not including 20
>>million war dead.

>>Kaganovitch and many senior OGPU officers (later, NKVD) were
>>Jewish. The predominance of Jews among Bolshevik leaders, and the
>>frightful crimes and cruelty inflicted by Stalin's Cheka on Ukraine, 
>>the Baltic states and Poland, led the victims of Red Terror to blame 
>>the Jewish people for both communism and their suffering. 

When even a Jew writer admits the truth, perhaps Christmas is near??


>As a direct
>>result, during the subsequent Nazi occupation of Eastern Europe, the
>>region's innocent Jews became the target of ferocious revenge by
>>Ukrainians, Balts and Poles.

>>While the world is by now fully aware of the destruction of
>>Europe's Jews by the Nazis, the story of the numerically larger
>>holocaust in Ukraine has been suppressed, or ignored. Ukraine's 
>>genocide occurred 8-9 years before Hitler began the Jewish Holocaust, 
>>and was committed, unlike Nazi crimes, before the world's gaze. But 
>>Stalin's murder of millions was simply denied, or concealed by a 
>>left-wing conspiracy of silence that continues to this day. In the 
>>strange moral geometry of mass murder, only Nazis are guilty.

>>Socialist luminaries like Bernard Shaw, Beatrice and Sidney
>>Webb and PM Edouard Herriot of France, toured Ukraine during 1932-33 
>>and proclaimed reports of famine were false. Shaw announced: "I did not 
>>see one under-nourished person in Russia." New York Times correspondent
>>Walter Duranty, who won a Pulitzer Prize for his Russian reporting,
>>wrote claims of famine were "malignant propaganda." Seven million 
>>people were dying around them, yet these fools saw nothing. The New 
>>York Times has never repudiated Duranty's lies.

>>Modern leftists do not care to be reminded their ideological
>>and historical roots are entwined with this century's greatest crime -
>>the inevitable result of enforced social engineering and Marxist
>>theology.

>>Western historians delicately skirt the sordid fact that the
>>governments of Britain, the U.S. and Canada were fully aware of the
>>Ukrainian genocide and Stalin's other monstrous crimes. Yet they 
>>eagerly welcomed him as an ally during World War II. Stalin, who 
>>Franklin Roosevelt called "Uncle Joe," murdered four times more people 
>>than Adolf Hitler.

>>None of the Soviet mass murderers who committed genocide were
>>ever brought to justice. Lazar Kaganovitch died peacefully in Moscow a
>>few years ago, still wearing his Order of the Soviet Union, and 
>>enjoying a generous state pension.

>>Eric can be reached by e-mail at: margolis@foreigncorrespondent.com.

>>Letters to the editor should be sent to: editor@sunpub.com.





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On 4 Jan 1999 01:47:00 GMT, alyvaryat@aol.com (Alyvaryat) wrote:

>>What a savage, subhuman people!

Perhaps he was referring to the JEW murderers?

>    Did your nation ever have to endure an artificial Famine at the hands of
>it's occupiers as Ukraine had to endure at Russia's hands? You cannot honestly
>tell me what levels you, your family, or "your people" would go to in order to
>survive. Self-preservation is a powerful driving force.

>    Perhaps, since you feel you are able to judge an entire nation as
>"subhuman" and "savage", you should go thru something like this and then tell
>those that survived Russia's assault on Ukraine in 1932 thru 1933 that you
>never did those things.......

What is even surprising, is that the article was written by an honest
Jewish writer, well known in Canada for telling the truth.

On Wed, 16 Dec 1998 14:33:14 GMT, dcohen@chambre.com wrote:
>On 14 Dec 1998 05:44:48, nikst@glasnet.ru wrote:
>>Reply-To: 
>>From: "nikst" 
>>Subject: THE TORONTO SUN: Remembering Ukraine's Unknown Holocaust
>>Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 04:47:59 +0300

>>THE TORONTO SUN, Sunday, December 13, 1998

>>Remembering Ukraine's Unknown Holocaust

>>By ERIC MARGOLIS
>>Contributing Foreign Editor

>>As Britain's socialist government cleared the way for a gaudy show 
>>trial of that Great Satan of the left, Chile's Gen. Augusto Pinochet, 
>>the 65th anniversary of this century's bloodiest crime was utterly 
>>ignored. Leftists now baying for Pinochet's head don't want to be 
>>reminded of the Unknown Holocaust.

>>In 1932, Soviet leader Josef Stalin unleashed genocide in
>>Ukraine. Stalin determined to force Ukraine's millions of independent
>>farmers - called kulaks - into collectivized Soviet agriculture, and to
>>crush Ukraine's growing spirit of nationalism.

>> Faced by resistance to collectivization, Stalin unleashed
>>terror and dispatched 25,000 fanatical young party militants from 
>>Moscow
>>- earlier versions of Mao's Red Guards - to force 10 million Ukrainian
>>peasants into collective farms. Secret police units of OGPU began
>>selective executions of recalcitrant farmers.

>>When Stalin's red guards failed to make a dent in this immense number, 
>>OGPU was ordered to begin mass executions. But there were simply not 
>>enough Chekists (secret police) to kill so many people, so Stalin 
>>decided to replace bullets with a much cheaper medium of death - mass
>>starvation.

>>All seed stocks, grain, silage and farm animals were
>>confiscated from Ukraine's farms. (Ethiopia's Communist dictator
>>Mengistu Haile Mariam used the same method in the 1970s to force
>>collectivization: the resulting famine cased one million deaths.)

>>OGPU agents and Red Army troops sealed all roads and rail
>>lines. Nothing came in or out of Ukraine. Farms were searched and 
>>looted of food and fuel. Ukrainians quickly began to die of hunger, 
>>cold and sickness.

>>When OGPU failed to meet weekly execution quotas, Stalin sent
>>henchman Lazar Kaganovitch to destroy Ukrainian resistance. 
>>Kaganovitch, the Soviet Eichmann, made quota, shooting 10,000 
>>Ukrainians weekly. Eighty percent of all Ukrainian intellectuals were 
>>executed. A Ukrainian party member named Nikita Khruschchev helped 
>>supervise the slaughter.

>>During the bitter winter of 1932-33, mass starvation created
>>by Kaganovitch and OGPU hit full force. Ukrainians ate their pets, 
>>boots and belts, plus bark and roots. Some parents even ate infant 
>>children.

>>The precise number of Ukrainians murdered by Stalin's
>>custom-made famine and Cheka firing squads remains unknown to this day.
>>The KGB's archives, and recent work by Russian historians, show at 
>>least seven million died. Ukrainian historians put the figure at nine 
>>million, or higher. Twenty-five percent of Ukraine's population was 
>>exterminated.

>>Millions of victims

>>Six million other farmers across the USSR were starved or shot
>>during collectivization. Stalin told Winston Churchill he liquidated 10
>>million peasants during the 1930s. Add mass executions by the Cheka in
>>Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania; the genocide of three million Muslims in
>>the USSR; massacres of Cossacks and Volga Germans and Soviet industrial
>>genocide accounted for at least 40 million victims, not including 20
>>million war dead.

>>Kaganovitch and many senior OGPU officers (later, NKVD) were
>>Jewish. The predominance of Jews among Bolshevik leaders, and the
>>frightful crimes and cruelty inflicted by Stalin's Cheka on Ukraine, 
>>the Baltic states and Poland, led the victims of Red Terror to blame 
>>the Jewish people for both communism and their suffering. 

>When even a Jew writer admits the truth, perhaps Christmas is near??


>As a direct
>>result, during the subsequent Nazi occupation of Eastern Europe, the
>>region's innocent Jews became the target of ferocious revenge by
>>Ukrainians, Balts and Poles.

>>While the world is by now fully aware of the destruction of
>>Europe's Jews by the Nazis, the story of the numerically larger
>>holocaust in Ukraine has been suppressed, or ignored. Ukraine's 
>>genocide occurred 8-9 years before Hitler began the Jewish Holocaust, 
>>and was committed, unlike Nazi crimes, before the world's gaze. But 
>>Stalin's murder of millions was simply denied, or concealed by a 
>>left-wing conspiracy of silence that continues to this day. In the 
>>strange moral geometry of mass murder, only Nazis are guilty.

>>Socialist luminaries like Bernard Shaw, Beatrice and Sidney
>>Webb and PM Edouard Herriot of France, toured Ukraine during 1932-33 
>>and proclaimed reports of famine were false. Shaw announced: "I did not 
>>see one under-nourished person in Russia." New York Times correspondent
>>Walter Duranty, who won a Pulitzer Prize for his Russian reporting,
>>wrote claims of famine were "malignant propaganda." Seven million 
>>people were dying around them, yet these fools saw nothing. The New 
>>York Times has never repudiated Duranty's lies.

>>Modern leftists do not care to be reminded their ideological
>>and historical roots are entwined with this century's greatest crime -
>>the inevitable result of enforced social engineering and Marxist
>>theology.

>>Western historians delicately skirt the sordid fact that the
>>governments of Britain, the U.S. and Canada were fully aware of the
>>Ukrainian genocide and Stalin's other monstrous crimes. Yet they 
>>eagerly welcomed him as an ally during World War II. Stalin, who 
>>Franklin Roosevelt called "Uncle Joe," murdered four times more people 
>>than Adolf Hitler.

>>None of the Soviet mass murderers who committed genocide were
>>ever brought to justice. Lazar Kaganovitch died peacefully in Moscow a
>>few years ago, still wearing his Order of the Soviet Union, and 
>>enjoying a generous state pension.

>>Eric can be reached by e-mail at: margolis@foreigncorrespondent.com.

>>Letters to the editor should be sent to: editor@sunpub.com.



   



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On 4 Jan 1999 18:43:18 GMT, kmcvay(Kenneth McVay SOBC) trying to hide
the truth as reported by Canadian Press all across Canada:

>"chiffre@chambre.com" wrote:

>>>Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
>>>the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the 
>>>more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!


On Sun, 03 Jan 1999 16:56:11 GMT, chiffre@chambre.com wrote:

>Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
>the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the 
>more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

>Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions 
>"smells" of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

>Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted "on behalf 
>of all fellow  taxpayers,except the favoured few."

>Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
>the  Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the 
>more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

>Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions 
>"smells" of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

>Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted "on behalf 
>of all fellow  taxpayers,except the favoured few."


>On 12 Apr 1998 22:36:43 -0700, kmcvay@nanaimo.island.net (Ken McVay)
>wrote:
>>In article   wrote:

>>>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>>>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>>>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!


>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!

>In fact Revenue Canada officials had decided 12 December 1991 that the
>Bronfmans were supposed to pay their taxes on this money!!!

>George Harris, according to CP, is claiming that the Auditor General
>of Canada  in May 1996, exposed the fact that the JEW Bronfmans did
>not pay their taxes on the 2.2 Billion, thereby cheating the tax
>department out of " hundreds of millions of dollars"!!!

>Harris is fighting for the rights of all non-JEW taxpayers on this
>issue.

>He is quoted as saying, according to CP:"He will be helping to sustain
>public confidence in our income tax system, as well as the
>administration of justice generally."


>Could it be that the goy-boy Oyvay finally got kicked out of NIZKOR, 
>since the Bnai Brith could no longer stand the heat of the
>investigations for tax fraud?

>Did the IRS and Revenue Canada taxation finally get fed up with the
>multi-million dollar  FRAUD by OyVay??

>Is that why the filthy pervert OyVay is now in hiding back in
>Nanaimo???

>Is OyVay back to being a "gas station attendant" for his living, or is
>it again on welfare??


Guess even the shabbas-goy OyVay couldn't stop the Federal Court!!!

Could it be that the maggot OyVay is also now being ordered to repay
much taxes, in both Canada and the US, in connection with his
FRAUDULENT claims as a non-existent charity???



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On Tue, 5 Jan 1999 00:22:40 GMT, ca140@torfree.net (Ron Yaraskavitch)
wrote:

>chiffre@chambre.com wrote:
>: Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
>: the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the 
>: more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!
>
>I don't get it.  Why does 'chiffre' want to condemn jews?  

Mainly because the JEW Bronfmans swindled the Canadian government out
of more than $700 millions taxes!!!

Read the story, and then try to correlate to Nazis???

>If the Nazis and Soviets blamed all problems on the jews, does that mean 
>they were trying to direct the public attention away from evaluating what 
>they were doing?
>Ron


On Sun, 03 Jan 1999 16:56:11 GMT, chiffre@chambre.com wrote:

>Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
>the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the 
>more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

>Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions 
>"smells" of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

>Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted "on behalf 
>of all fellow  taxpayers,except the favoured few."

>Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
>the  Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the 
>more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

>Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada's actions 
>"smells" of "grave maladministration" and favouritism.

>Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted "on behalf 
>of all fellow  taxpayers,except the favoured few."


>On 12 Apr 1998 22:36:43 -0700, kmcvay@nanaimo.island.net (Ken McVay)
>wrote:
>>In article   wrote:

>>>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>>>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>>>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!


>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!

>In fact Revenue Canada officials had decided 12 December 1991 that the
>Bronfmans were supposed to pay their taxes on this money!!!

>George Harris, according to CP, is claiming that the Auditor General
>of Canada  in May 1996, exposed the fact that the JEW Bronfmans did
>not pay their taxes on the 2.2 Billion, thereby cheating the tax
>department out of " hundreds of millions of dollars"!!!

>Harris is fighting for the rights of all non-JEW taxpayers on this
>issue.

>He is quoted as saying, according to CP:"He will be helping to sustain
>public confidence in our income tax system, as well as the
>administration of justice generally."


>Could it be that the goy-boy Oyvay finally got kicked out of NIZKOR, 
>since the Bnai Brith could no longer stand the heat of the
>investigations for tax fraud?

>Did the IRS and Revenue Canada taxation finally get fed up with the
>multi-million dollar  FRAUD by OyVay??

>Is that why the filthy pervert OyVay is now in hiding back in
>Nanaimo???

>Is OyVay back to being a "gas station attendant" for his living, or is
>it again on welfare??


Guess even the shabbas-goy OyVay couldn't stop the Federal Court!!!



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On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 01:01:49 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:
>On Mon, 22 Sep 1997 17:28:24 GMT, odessa88@direct.ca wrote:

>>If there were so many documented JEWS in the German military, one MUST
>>question how many may have died in WWII!!!

>>It seems that the number keeps on increasing, by mythical magic, just
>>as each new lawsuit demanding reparations is filed!!!

>>In other words, soon the number of damn JEW claimants for alleged
>>demise in WWII will exceed the populations of all the countries
>>involved.


>>On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 02:43:34 GMT, vagabond@idirect.com (William
>>Markiewicz) wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>For a fair approximation of the number of victims, the extent of
>>>Jewish life in pre-war Europe must be looked at.  See the
>>>Communication Page, August 97 issue 
>>>http://web.idirect.com/~vagabond
>>
>>sperati wrote:
>>> 
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>>> From: stefan lemieszewski 
>>> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>>> 
>>> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>>> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>>> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>>> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>>> 
>>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>> titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
>>> appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>>> to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>>> >>Stefan Lemieszewski
>>> 
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> North Shore News
>>> February 2, 1997
>>> 
>>> Insights from abroad
>>> Doug Collins
>>> 
>>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>> that is ignored in Canada.
>>> 
>>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>> served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
>>> 
>>> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>>> about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
>>> 
>>> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>>> was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
>>> transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
>>> 
>>> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
>>> married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>>> generals, and 23 colonels.
>>> 
>>> Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
>>> Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>>> more. The research is continuing.
>>> 
>>> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>>> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>>> alive.
>>> 
>>> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>>> father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
>>> 
>>> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>>> whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
>>> 
>>> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>>> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>>> 
>>> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>>> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>>> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>>> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>>> documents in the process.
>>> 
>>> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>>> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew
>>> could ever have fought for Hitler.
>>> 
>>> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
>>> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
>>> 
>>> He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
>>> about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>>> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
>>> 
>>> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may be
>>> used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers of
>>> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>>> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>>> 
>>> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>>> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>>> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>>> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>>> 
>>> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>>> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>>> was a Jew.
>>> 
>>> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>>> 
>>> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>>> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>>> one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
>>> 
>>> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>>> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>>> 
>>> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>>> knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced to a
>>> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>>> 
>>> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>>> 
>>> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>>> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>>> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>>> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>>> plotting against Hitler.
>>> 
>>> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>>> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>>> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>>> to it that he was discharged from the army.
>>> 
>>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>> wonder why?
>>> 
>>> ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>>> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>>> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>>> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>>
>>
>>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!



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On Tue, 05 Jan 1999 01:52:04 GMT, Ed Kadach 
wrote:
Subject:  Re: Jew Lust for Lesbianism/Faggots

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In Canada a JEW Rabbi now wants to perform ILLEGAL marriages of
faggots and lezzies. Story follows:
On Sat, 26 Dec 1998 19:04:05 GMT, kenmaggot@nazikor.niz.org wrote:

>In a move sure to anger orthodox Jews, as well as normal humans, newspapers
>across Canada report that a Winnipeg synagogue will perform marriages
>of same sex persons.

>This, even though there is no law in Canada permitting this!!!

>Rabbi Michael  Levenson of Temple Shalom admits that his actions are
>illegal. 


If his actions are illegal, why don't the authorities send him to
jail??


>He is quoted as saying that his ceremonies will be recognised
>from a religious point of view, not a political one. Levenson alleges
>that members of his temple supposedly supported his action.  However,
>even normal Jews are criticising this action. It seems that what this
>Jew is doing, is NOT acceptable, according to the Torah.


No wonder people think of the jews as mainly sodomites.




On Sun, 27 Dec 1998 05:45:47 +0000, Claymore
 wrote:

>All LEZZAS are Hate filled Bigoted Scum, just like faggots and should be
>GASSED !.

>In article <75ultu$2r0@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>, Israel Schiff
> writes
>>On Mon, 23 Dec 1996, Elazar wrote: "For my Jewish brethren searching for a
>>Biblical basis for sanctioning homosexuality, I provide you with words from
>>Rabbis Marc Angel, Hillel Goldberg and Pinchas Stopler in their joint
>>article published in the Winter, 1992-93 edition of Jewish Action Magazine;"
>>Well, here's another viewpoint: Bible Review, December 1993, p. 11 DOES THE
>>BIBLE PROHIBIT HOMOSEXUALITY? by Rabbi Jacob Milgrom: "The Biblical
>>prohibition is addressed only to Israel. It is incorrect to apply it on a
>>universal scale.
>>This past Yom Kippur, September 25, 1993, my synagogue invited me to explain
>>the afternoon scriptural reading, the list of forbidden sexual liaisons in
>>Leviticus 18. I chose to focus on what is today one of the most frequently
>>quoted passages in the entire Bible, "Do not lie with a male as one lies
>>with a woman, it is an abomination" (Leviticus 18:22).
>>
>>What I said may be both good news and bad news to my Christian friends,
>>depending on their position on gay and lesbian rights. This Biblical
>>prohibition is addressed only to the Jews. Non-Jews are affected only if
>>they reside in the Holy Land, but not elsewhere (see the closing exhortation
>>in Leviticus 18, verses 24-30). Thus, it is incorrect to apply this
>>prohibition on a universal scale.
>>
>>But I spoke to my fellow Jews, who are required to observe this prohibition.
>>What is the rationale for this prohibition? In a previous column, I noted
>>that the Bible's impurity rules are part of a symbol system representing the
>>forces of life and death. Israel is required to avoid these impurities and
>>adhere to the laws commanded by God, who promotes the forces of life. Thus
>>in the same chapter we read, "You shall heed my statutes and my rules, by
>>doing them one shall live" (Leviticus 18:5). A man who discharges semen,
>>whether intentionally or otherwise, is declared impure and must purify
>>himself by bathing (a sort of re-baptism) before he is permitted to enter
>>the Temple or touch sacred (sacrificial) food (Leviticus 15:16-18). Why?
>>Because semen stands for life, and the loss of semen symbolizes the loss of
>>life.
>>
>>Note also that in the entire list of forbidden sexual unions, THERE IS NO
>>PROHIBITION AGAINST LESBIANISM. Can it be that lesbianism did not exist in
>>ancient times or that Scripture was unaware of its existence? Lesbians
>>existed and flourished, as attested in an old (pre-Israelite)
>>
>>Babylonian text and in the work of the lesbian poet Sappho (born c. 612
>>B.C.E., during the time of the First Temple), who came from the island of
>>Lesbos (hence lesbianism). But there is a fundamental difference between the
>>homosexual acts of men and women. IN LESBIANISM THERE IS NO SPILLING OF
>>SEED. Thus life is not symbolically lost, and therefore lesbianism is not
>>prohibited in the Bible.
>>
>>My argument ostensibly can be countered by a more comprehensive biblical
>>injunction. The very first commandment, given to Adam and repeated to Noah,
>>is "Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth" (Genesis 1:28 and Genesis
>>9:1,7). The descendants of Noah--the entire human race--are duty-bound to
>>fulfill this commandment. But the truth is that we have not only filled the
>>earth, we have over-filled it. This does not mean, however, that the
>>commandment should be thought of as no longer in force--especially among
>>Jews, who have lost a third of their members in our lifetime. I recall an
>>incident during a premarital interview from the early years of my rabbinate.
>>The starry-eyed bride declared her noble intention to have twelve children
>>to compensate for the tragic loss of six million killed in the Holocaust. I
>>gasped, "Must you do it all by yourself?"
>>
>>I have since come to regret my flippant reply. This couple regarded their
>>forthcoming marriage as a sacrament not just between themselves, but with
>>the >Jewish people. The problem has worsened for American Jews. Because
>>intermarriage is rife and the Jewish birth rate is low, American Jewry, once
>>at zero population growth, has dipped into the minus column. Were it not for
>>a steady stream of converts, the extinction of American Jewry would be even
>>more imminent. For us the divine command, "Be fruitful and multiply" is
>>truly in force.
>>
>>To Jewish homosexuals I offer an unoriginal solution. As compensation for
>>your loss of seed, adopt children. Although adoption was practiced in the
>>ancient world (as attested in Babylonian law), there is no Biblical
>>procedure or institution of adoption. As a result the institution of
>>adoption is absent from rabbinic jurisprudence. Yet there are isolated cases
>>of a kind of pseudo-adoption in the Bible. For example, Abraham, long
>>childless, complains to God that Eliezer of Damascus, his steward, will
>>inherit him (Genesis 15:2). And barren Rachel beseeches her husband Jacob,
>>"Here is my maid Bilhah--go into her that she may bear on my knees and that
>>through her I too may have children" (Genesis 30:3). Adoption is certainly a
>>possibility today.
>>
>>Lesbian couples have an additional advantage. Not only do they not violate
>>biblical law, but through artificial insemination each can become the
>>natural mother of her children.
>>
>>Thus from the Bible we can infer the following: Lesbians, presumably half of
>>the world's homosexual population, are not mentioned. More than ninety-nine
>>percent of the gays, namely non-Jews, are not addressed. This leaves the
>>small number of male Jewish gays subject to this >prohibition. If they are
>>biologically or psychologically incapable of procreation, adoption provides
>>a solution. I hope the Eternal, in love and compassion, will then reckon
>>their spilled seed as producing fruit. Jacob Milgrom." (Bible Review, a
>>publication of the Biblical Archeology Society 3000 Connecticut Avenue NW,
>>Suite 300, Washington DC 20008, 202 387 8888


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On Tue, 05 Jan 1999 10:49:39 GMT, "Truthseeker" 
wrote:
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Never again? Think again
>Russian general leads wave of anti-Semitism
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------

>By Kaye Corbett
>© 1999 WorldNetDaily.com

>It's a voice from out of 1942 Nazi Germany.

>However, it's a Russian general, Albert Makashov, now leading the wave of
>anti-Semitism sweeping the world.

>The evil spirit of Adolph Hitler is alive and flourishing today.

>"Life in our country is getting worse and worse. Never has it been this bad
>in Russia, even under the Mongol yoke. Who is to blame? The executive
>branch, the bankers, and the mass media are to blame. Usury, deceit,
>corruption, and thievery are flourishing in the country. That is why I call
>the reformers yids.

>"Who are these Jews?

>"In English they are called Jews, in French -- Juif, and in Yiddish -- Yid."

>Born the son of Mikhail Ivanovich Makashev, the name Albert was given to him
>by the mistress, Natalya Vasilyevna, when she was reading the George Sand
>novel "Consuelo" in 1938.

>"It is a good thing that during that time of friendship with Germany they
>did not call me Adolph," Makashov wrote in an article, "Usurers of Russia."

>Christened Dmitriy by old-rite Christian women in Krasnyy Log in honor of
>St. Dmitriy Donskoy, this "son of a cook" was reared and educated by the
>Soviet regime and graduated from the Academy imeni Frunze and the General
>Staff Academy with gold medals. He worked his way up from platoon commander
>(commander of a remote intelligence group) to commander of two military
>districts to become a general and later a Communist Party deputy in the
>Russian Duma -- Parliament.

>Throughout October 1998 Makashov made a series of statements calling for the
>extermination of all Jews in Russia and blaming them for the country's
>economic problems.

>In 1993, Makashov played a major role in street violence, urging crowds of
>his supporters to seek out and beat Jews, reported JTA. His own Communist
>Party seemingly condoned his recent actions with 83 of the party members
>voting against censure. Leader Gennady Zyuganov and 44 others didn't even
>vote at all.

>Trying to be diplomatic, Zyuganov fumbled with the issue and was quoted as
>saying, "The essence and spirit of our party lies in friendship and respect
>for each individual, irrespective of nationality. Even Makashov will obey
>the party's demands. But, on the other hand, there is not a single audience
>today -- I emphasize, not a single one -- that does not ask questions about
>the subject of Jews."


Guess that in Russia, they are finally starting to review the
oppression by the cursed JEWS, since the time of Lenin,Marx and
Dzerzhinski!!!!

>Then in a chilling voice, Makasov stated: "I am a Russian general. When I
>see what the cosmopolitans are doing with my Motherland -- Russia (the
>Soviet Union) -- it makes my blood boil! The little devils 'got me' with
>their threats in connection with the events of October 1993. I said that
>even after I died I would take at least a dozen yids with me to the great
>beyond. An eye for an eye!"

>Then he emphasized that "Yid is not a nationality, yid is a profession.
>Balzac's Gobsek is a Juif, the Gogolian skinflint Plyuskin is a yid. These
>images have become a permanent part of world literature. Whoever reads
>Pushkin, Dostoyev, Gogol, or Shevchenko knows no other word to designate the
>ravager, the bloodsucker feeding on the misfortunes of other people. They
>drink the blood of the indigenous peoples of the state; they are destroying
>industry and agriculture.

>"They are destroying the Russian army and navy and its strategic nuclear
>forces. They accept the population's money to be kept in the banks and then
>give it away, leaving nothing for funerals, for rent, for old age. Having
>taken over television, radio, and the press, they do not give a damn about
>the history and culture of the country that nurtured them, saved them from
>the furnaces and fascism, and took responsibility for educating them.

>"They grabbed whatever they could, and today they own 60 per cent of
>Russia's capital. The concepts 'Zionist' and 'yid' are inseparable. The
>intelligentsia says 'Zionist' but the people use Pushkin's word: 'yid.' The
>concepts of Zionism and fascism are inseparable, and when they scare people
>with Russian fascism, it is the same as when a thief shouts: 'Stop that
>thief!'"

>Can't you almost hear the goose-stepping boots pounding on the pavement and
>the evil cry: Seig Heil?

>Although the world may consider Makashov a lunatic, just remember that in
>Russia and throughout the former Soviet Union, authority figures such as
>those in the Duma are obeyed without question.

>Violence against Jews throughout the world has been increasing with
>synagogues being burned and the murder of "God's Chosen People."

>With Russia now in chaos, similar to Germany in the late '30s and '40s,
>another leader in the mold of Adolph Hitler has now risen on the scene. His
>name is General Albert Makashov.




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On Mon, 04 Jan 1999 21:57:57 GMT, miro.prpic@sk.tel.hr (Miro Prpic)
wrote:
>Thor 88! wrote:

>> To see that Cohen/Rumain is a transexual (living
>> in Maryland) just read all the headers, the e-mail
>> addresses and who (or what?) signs the post!

Why not just comment on the article, rather than lies??

On 14 Dec 1998 05:44:48, nikst@glasnet.ru wrote:

>Subject: THE TORONTO SUN: Remembering Ukraine's Unknown Holocaust
>Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 04:47:59 +0300

>THE TORONTO SUN, Sunday, December 13, 1998

>Remembering Ukraine's Unknown Holocaust

>By ERIC MARGOLIS
>Contributing Foreign Editor

>As Britain's socialist government cleared the way for a gaudy show 
>trial of that Great Satan of the left, Chile's Gen. Augusto Pinochet, 
>the 65th anniversary of this century's bloodiest crime was utterly 
>ignored. Leftists now baying for Pinochet's head don't want to be 
>reminded of the Unknown Holocaust.
>
>In 1932, Soviet leader Josef Stalin unleashed genocide in
>Ukraine. Stalin determined to force Ukraine's millions of independent
>farmers - called kulaks - into collectivized Soviet agriculture, and to
>crush Ukraine's growing spirit of nationalism.
>
> Faced by resistance to collectivization, Stalin unleashed
>terror and dispatched 25,000 fanatical young party militants from 
>Moscow
>- earlier versions of Mao's Red Guards - to force 10 million Ukrainian
>peasants into collective farms. Secret police units of OGPU began
>selective executions of recalcitrant farmers.
>
>When Stalin's red guards failed to make a dent in this immense number, 
>OGPU was ordered to begin mass executions. But there were simply not 
>enough Chekists (secret police) to kill so many people, so Stalin 
>decided to replace bullets with a much cheaper medium of death - mass
>starvation.
>
>All seed stocks, grain, silage and farm animals were
>confiscated from Ukraine's farms. (Ethiopia's Communist dictator
>Mengistu Haile Mariam used the same method in the 1970s to force
>collectivization: the resulting famine cased one million deaths.)
>
>OGPU agents and Red Army troops sealed all roads and rail
>lines. Nothing came in or out of Ukraine. Farms were searched and 
>looted of food and fuel. Ukrainians quickly began to die of hunger, 
>cold and sickness.
>
>When OGPU failed to meet weekly execution quotas, Stalin sent
>henchman Lazar Kaganovitch to destroy Ukrainian resistance. 
>Kaganovitch, the Soviet Eichmann, made quota, shooting 10,000 
>Ukrainians weekly. Eighty percent of all Ukrainian intellectuals were 
>executed. A Ukrainian party member named Nikita Khruschchev helped 
>supervise the slaughter.
>
>During the bitter winter of 1932-33, mass starvation created
>by Kaganovitch and OGPU hit full force. Ukrainians ate their pets, 
>boots and belts, plus bark and roots. Some parents even ate infant 
>children.
>
>The precise number of Ukrainians murdered by Stalin's
>custom-made famine and Cheka firing squads remains unknown to this day.
>The KGB's archives, and recent work by Russian historians, show at 
>least seven million died. Ukrainian historians put the figure at nine 
>million, or higher. Twenty-five percent of Ukraine's population was 
>exterminated.
>
>Millions of victims
>
>Six million other farmers across the USSR were starved or shot
>during collectivization. Stalin told Winston Churchill he liquidated 10
>million peasants during the 1930s. Add mass executions by the Cheka in
>Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania; the genocide of three million Muslims in
>the USSR; massacres of Cossacks and Volga Germans and Soviet industrial
>genocide accounted for at least 40 million victims, not including 20
>million war dead.
>
>Kaganovitch and many senior OGPU officers (later, NKVD) were
>Jewish. The predominance of Jews among Bolshevik leaders, and the
>frightful crimes and cruelty inflicted by Stalin's Cheka on Ukraine, 
>the Baltic states and Poland, led the victims of Red Terror to blame 
>the Jewish people for both communism and their suffering. 

When even a Jew writer admits the truth, perhaps Christmas is near??


As a direct
>result, during the subsequent Nazi occupation of Eastern Europe, the
>region's innocent Jews became the target of ferocious revenge by
>Ukrainians, Balts and Poles.
>
>While the world is by now fully aware of the destruction of
>Europe's Jews by the Nazis, the story of the numerically larger
>holocaust in Ukraine has been suppressed, or ignored. Ukraine's 
>genocide occurred 8-9 years before Hitler began the Jewish Holocaust, 
>and was committed, unlike Nazi crimes, before the world's gaze. But 
>Stalin's murder of millions was simply denied, or concealed by a 
>left-wing conspiracy of silence that continues to this day. In the 
>strange moral geometry of mass murder, only Nazis are guilty.
>
>Socialist luminaries like Bernard Shaw, Beatrice and Sidney
>Webb and PM Edouard Herriot of France, toured Ukraine during 1932-33 
>and proclaimed reports of famine were false. Shaw announced: "I did not 
>see one under-nourished person in Russia." New York Times correspondent
>Walter Duranty, who won a Pulitzer Prize for his Russian reporting,
>wrote claims of famine were "malignant propaganda." Seven million 
>people were dying around them, yet these fools saw nothing. The New 
>York Times has never repudiated Duranty's lies.
>
>Modern leftists do not care to be reminded their ideological
>and historical roots are entwined with this century's greatest crime -
>the inevitable result of enforced social engineering and Marxist
>theology.
>
>Western historians delicately skirt the sordid fact that the
>governments of Britain, the U.S. and Canada were fully aware of the
>Ukrainian genocide and Stalin's other monstrous crimes. Yet they 
>eagerly welcomed him as an ally during World War II. Stalin, who 
>Franklin Roosevelt called "Uncle Joe," murdered four times more people 
>than Adolf Hitler.
>
>None of the Soviet mass murderers who committed genocide were
>ever brought to justice. Lazar Kaganovitch died peacefully in Moscow a
>few years ago, still wearing his Order of the Soviet Union, and 
>enjoying a generous state pension.
>
>Eric can be reached by e-mail at: margolis@foreigncorrespondent.com.
>
>Letters to the editor should be sent to: editor@sunpub.com.


It seems that even a respected jewish author/writer is admitting that
it was the JEWS with the CHEKA/forerunners of the KGB who murdered
more than 25 million Ukrainians!!!


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On Tue, 05 Jan 1999 15:38:58 GMT, miro.prpic@sk.tel.hr (Miro Prpic)
wrote:
>>Organization: @Home Network
>>Xref: news.idt.net alt.politics.white-power:261541

>>Notice the header above? The actual source appears to be HOME.COM.
>>What Nizhor has a HOME.COM account? 

The original article follows:

On Mon, 04 Jan 1999 21:57:57 GMT, miro.prpic@sk.tel.hr (Miro Prpic)
wrote:
>Thor 88! wrote:

>> To see that Cohen/Rumain is a transexual (living
>> in Maryland) just read all the headers, the e-mail
>> addresses and who (or what?) signs the post!

Why not just comment on the article, rather than lies??

On 14 Dec 1998 05:44:48, nikst@glasnet.ru wrote:

>Subject: THE TORONTO SUN: Remembering Ukraine's Unknown Holocaust
>Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 04:47:59 +0300

>THE TORONTO SUN, Sunday, December 13, 1998

>Remembering Ukraine's Unknown Holocaust

>By ERIC MARGOLIS
>Contributing Foreign Editor

>As Britain's socialist government cleared the way for a gaudy show 
>trial of that Great Satan of the left, Chile's Gen. Augusto Pinochet, 
>the 65th anniversary of this century's bloodiest crime was utterly 
>ignored. Leftists now baying for Pinochet's head don't want to be 
>reminded of the Unknown Holocaust.
>
>In 1932, Soviet leader Josef Stalin unleashed genocide in
>Ukraine. Stalin determined to force Ukraine's millions of independent
>farmers - called kulaks - into collectivized Soviet agriculture, and to
>crush Ukraine's growing spirit of nationalism.
>
> Faced by resistance to collectivization, Stalin unleashed
>terror and dispatched 25,000 fanatical young party militants from 
>Moscow
>- earlier versions of Mao's Red Guards - to force 10 million Ukrainian
>peasants into collective farms. Secret police units of OGPU began
>selective executions of recalcitrant farmers.
>
>When Stalin's red guards failed to make a dent in this immense number, 
>OGPU was ordered to begin mass executions. But there were simply not 
>enough Chekists (secret police) to kill so many people, so Stalin 
>decided to replace bullets with a much cheaper medium of death - mass
>starvation.
>
>All seed stocks, grain, silage and farm animals were
>confiscated from Ukraine's farms. (Ethiopia's Communist dictator
>Mengistu Haile Mariam used the same method in the 1970s to force
>collectivization: the resulting famine cased one million deaths.)
>
>OGPU agents and Red Army troops sealed all roads and rail
>lines. Nothing came in or out of Ukraine. Farms were searched and 
>looted of food and fuel. Ukrainians quickly began to die of hunger, 
>cold and sickness.
>
>When OGPU failed to meet weekly execution quotas, Stalin sent
>henchman Lazar Kaganovitch to destroy Ukrainian resistance. 
>Kaganovitch, the Soviet Eichmann, made quota, shooting 10,000 
>Ukrainians weekly. Eighty percent of all Ukrainian intellectuals were 
>executed. A Ukrainian party member named Nikita Khruschchev helped 
>supervise the slaughter.
>
>During the bitter winter of 1932-33, mass starvation created
>by Kaganovitch and OGPU hit full force. Ukrainians ate their pets, 
>boots and belts, plus bark and roots. Some parents even ate infant 
>children.
>
>The precise number of Ukrainians murdered by Stalin's
>custom-made famine and Cheka firing squads remains unknown to this day.
>The KGB's archives, and recent work by Russian historians, show at 
>least seven million died. Ukrainian historians put the figure at nine 
>million, or higher. Twenty-five percent of Ukraine's population was 
>exterminated.
>
>Millions of victims
>
>Six million other farmers across the USSR were starved or shot
>during collectivization. Stalin told Winston Churchill he liquidated 10
>million peasants during the 1930s. Add mass executions by the Cheka in
>Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania; the genocide of three million Muslims in
>the USSR; massacres of Cossacks and Volga Germans and Soviet industrial
>genocide accounted for at least 40 million victims, not including 20
>million war dead.
>
>Kaganovitch and many senior OGPU officers (later, NKVD) were
>Jewish. The predominance of Jews among Bolshevik leaders, and the
>frightful crimes and cruelty inflicted by Stalin's Cheka on Ukraine, 
>the Baltic states and Poland, led the victims of Red Terror to blame 
>the Jewish people for both communism and their suffering. 

When even a Jew writer admits the truth, perhaps Christmas is near??


As a direct
>result, during the subsequent Nazi occupation of Eastern Europe, the
>region's innocent Jews became the target of ferocious revenge by
>Ukrainians, Balts and Poles.
>
>While the world is by now fully aware of the destruction of
>Europe's Jews by the Nazis, the story of the numerically larger
>holocaust in Ukraine has been suppressed, or ignored. Ukraine's 
>genocide occurred 8-9 years before Hitler began the Jewish Holocaust, 
>and was committed, unlike Nazi crimes, before the world's gaze. But 
>Stalin's murder of millions was simply denied, or concealed by a 
>left-wing conspiracy of silence that continues to this day. In the 
>strange moral geometry of mass murder, only Nazis are guilty.
>
>Socialist luminaries like Bernard Shaw, Beatrice and Sidney
>Webb and PM Edouard Herriot of France, toured Ukraine during 1932-33 
>and proclaimed reports of famine were false. Shaw announced: "I did not 
>see one under-nourished person in Russia." New York Times correspondent
>Walter Duranty, who won a Pulitzer Prize for his Russian reporting,
>wrote claims of famine were "malignant propaganda." Seven million 
>people were dying around them, yet these fools saw nothing. The New 
>York Times has never repudiated Duranty's lies.
>
>Modern leftists do not care to be reminded their ideological
>and historical roots are entwined with this century's greatest crime -
>the inevitable result of enforced social engineering and Marxist
>theology.
>
>Western historians delicately skirt the sordid fact that the
>governments of Britain, the U.S. and Canada were fully aware of the
>Ukrainian genocide and Stalin's other monstrous crimes. Yet they 
>eagerly welcomed him as an ally during World War II. Stalin, who 
>Franklin Roosevelt called "Uncle Joe," murdered four times more people 
>than Adolf Hitler.
>
>None of the Soviet mass murderers who committed genocide were
>ever brought to justice. Lazar Kaganovitch died peacefully in Moscow a
>few years ago, still wearing his Order of the Soviet Union, and 
>enjoying a generous state pension.
>
>Eric can be reached by e-mail at: margolis@foreigncorrespondent.com.
>
>Letters to the editor should be sent to: editor@sunpub.com.


It seems that even a respected jewish author/writer is admitting that
it was the JEWS with the CHEKA/forerunners of the KGB who murdered
more than 25 million Ukrainians!!!



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On 6 Jan 1999 07:25:53 GMT, lostgoth@aol.com (LostGoth) wrote:

>Oh No! The Jews are stealing our babies! What is this the 14the century?....


That is not what the article below says:

On Sun, 17 Aug 1997 11:04:59 -0500, "Shabati..Zvi Äbuishneineh"
 wrote:

>SJAFAR@newsnet., new wrote:
>> 
>> Investigators reportedly have opened several graves of Yemenite Jewish
>> babies and found them to be empty - a discovery that might support
>> claims that Yemenite children were taken from their parents for adoption
>> decades ago.
>> 
>> For years, Yemenite activists have claimed hundreds of babies declared
>> dead were actually given to adoptive parents of European descent. If the
>> claims are true, it could further sour relations between Middle Eastern
>> and European Jews in Israel.
>> 
>> The four graves at Tel Aviv's Givat Shaul cemetery were opened last
>> Wednesday as part of an official investigation, with a rabbi and family
>> members present.
>> 
>> Wooden signs over the empty graves bore the names Ruthie Babu, Ruthie
>> Cohen, Reuven Rafaelo and Moshe Mishraki, Israel TV reported Saturday.
>> All were hospitalized when only a few months old. Their parents never
>> saw them again, nor did they see a body or a death certificate.
>> 
>> ``Now there is no doubt that this was an affair of planned fraud in
>> which funerals were staged and evidence was falsified,'' said Ora
>> Shifris, a spokesman for the Yemenite families.
>> 
>> Hundreds of children disappeared during the mass immigration of Yemenite
>> Jews in the early 1950s, when the immigrants were housed in tent camps.
>> Camp officials and medical staff denied any wrongdoing, saying there was
>> chaos in the camps, where many babies were sickly and died.
>> 
>> Two other commissions have investigated the affair, but many families
>> dismissed their inconclusive findings.
>> 
>> In 1994, radical Yemenite activist Uzi Meshulam and a group of armed
>> followers barricaded themselves in a house in Tel Aviv for six weeks to
>> press demands for a new inquiry. One of the followers was killed in a
>> shootout with police, and Meshulam is serving a 6  1/2-year prison term.
>> But the confrontation created a furor that led to the current
>> commission, which has subpoena powers.
>> 
>> Israel's 4.7 million Jews are roughly evenly divided between those of
>> Middle Eastern and European descent, but the latter have always been
>> dominant economically and socially.
>
>
>Mr. Jafar.
>1. The number of children exceeded the thousands, not hundreds.
>2. Most of the low Paige and menial jobs are given to Arab Jews.
>3. For economic reasons, most of the prostitutes in Israel are underage
>Yemenites (and now Russian) Jewish little girls.
>4. Rejecting the blood of the African Jews (the Falasha) is just on of
>the facet of the fascist Zionist life. The Falasha Jews are prohibited
>from performing marriages and funeral. Only Aryan Jews are allowed to do
>that besides some Arab Jews who had to (convert) to Judaism, the Aryan
>style.




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On 6 Jan 1999 19:11:39 GMT, kmcvay@ (Kenneth McVay SOBC) wrote:
>Daniel Swan   wrote:

>>You always remind me of Beavis and Butthead clenching their fists
>>and parotting 'LIAR! LIAR! LIAR!', Henry Rollins Style.


>On October 1, 1996, he made this claim:

>"Notice that the JEW Nye(aka Neimann) refuses to comment as to why the
>filthy rich JEWS, the Bronfmanns weere not prosecuted to recover the
>BILLIONS of dollars in taxes owing, when they illegally moved 2
>billion dollars out of Canada, as exposed by revenue Canada and the Auditor
>General of Canada?"


>On October 4, 1996, he made this claim:
>
>"He refuses to comment on the SWINDLE of all Canad